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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
I got my hermes and fuze the day before they released. The ship rom was available the next day on both devices. The same for my original tilt which I got a few weeks after it released. No guarantees just past experience :)

They are typically out there as CSR try to help people fix phones and they eventually just have them reflash the rom when all else fails.

ATT seems to be the only carrier ive seen do this though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pinoymutt:
Well, I think we are starting to see the Tilt2 show up in retail channels now, so hopefully we'll see something real soon from either HTC themselves, or because of the sheer number of new units out there, someone will crack the code on a good ROM dump. It looks like the TMO USA dump took a while too.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Neutron1998:
Is it possible for someone with an out of the box stock phone to dump the ROM? If so how would one do it? I can upload it once I get it tomorrow if that will help.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] digitalmatrixio:
I have already done that:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] youngbusiness19:
Now how do we convert this to a nbh
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bimori:
Hi, can you point me to where you got the pre-released stock rom? or email me the source @ reelmaverick@yahoo.com. Thanks!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] noggind614:
i'm too lazy to go grab the link but it's in mobility digest's forums, forum herg's corner, and the thread is sticky'd at the top
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bimori:
was it a dump? or an actual rom???
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] digitalmatrixio:
Actually the pre-release one is at the top of this topic! Post number 3

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4712074&postcount=3
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] noggind614:
it's both a dump and the rom. but it's just a prerelease rom and not the actual one that ships on the tilt2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] youngbusiness19:
i have an tilt 2 just dont know how to dump it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] noggind614:
as stated on the second post of this page the rom has already been dumped
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] youngbusiness19:
oh ok. Just trying to help. how long does it take to have a proper file for flashing. just not sure what the hold up is.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ai6908:
What do you mean?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] noggind614:
their asking how long until the stock rom is released in a flashable form. and from what i've researched most stock roms are available within 2 weeks of the devices release date. but that doesn't mean this is the case for the tilt2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] youngbusiness19:
Thanks for answering my question. If i can be of any assistance im here i will donate as well.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] At0mAng:
This post should be edited since it is a Test ROM and not the official.

Does anyone have the official with Radio included?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Ive been trying to dump it before I security unlock and flash my first test rom. Every time I do I cant get it to recompile properly. Something with the recompile tools or dump process isnt working right
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rgb-rgb:
Well, if you can't get it to work, no point in me trying:eek:

Guess I'll just have to wait for you to make a ROM for the Tilt 2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] At0mAng:
Hey buddy...I got your PM and I am about to answer you now. Sorry I have not already...been busy and really sick :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] iceman4357:
yesssss!!! Arrup has joined the dark side.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] venelar:
this is good :cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
LOL Hi guys. Glad to see so many of the raphael crew over here. :) You all know to hollar if you need anything. Im getting ahead of the curve in this WVGA stuff now so hopefully soon the ROMS can start flowing :p

Really want this stock rom first though. Actually I want the radio more than the rom :/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jola66:
I cant wait for this! I should have waited before flashing to a different ROM. The ROM im using works for the most part but the MMS portion is not working. You cant even access the MMS settings. Im ready to go back to the stock ROM, even if it has bloat ware, until a stable and smooth ROM is available for the Tilt 2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] KewlRobD:
Where on the HTC site did you see these ROM's? I have been with AT&T for a long time. Before getting my fuze I was using the Samsung phones. For either the Samsung phones or the Fuze I never saw a ROM on their support site until there was an update available. If there is a nother place I should be looking please let me know.

Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Silverexp:
Well if anyone is interested, just noticed the 4.48.25.20 radio has been on the Topaz forum for a while. The Pure/Topaz is using the same radio.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4316484&postcount=1
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] At0mAng:
Well due to screen problems I am on my third Tilt2 and it has the same issues...anyways before I return this one for good, I will dump the ROM and see if I can recontruct it before I return it.

Just a small warning...if you are still waiting for the Tilt2 I would wait until a new batch comes. I have had two from two different stores in CT and the other from a store in NYC and all 3 had the screen issues I have noticed.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] punkcell:
You taking about the top part with lines going threw it. i had that issue also, mine was shipped directly from att. i believe if ppl keep reporting this issue they might release a fix or rom update for it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] At0mAng:
Nope I am talking about the horrible color saturation and how bad it looks from different viewing angles. Looks like AT&T went the cheap route and used inferior LCD screens when compared to T-Mobile TP2 and HTC TP2.

http://www.comeplaywithus.net/At0mAng/000 0052.mp4

crappy vid but you can see how bright and off the AT&T Tilt2 is compared with HTC TP2. The Tilt2 is on the right. Will have better pics and vids once I get a better camera to work with :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ai6908:
Glad I didnt buy tilt2! LOL
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] alwayslearning:
I hope you are able to dump that ROM before you return it. We need a stock ROM in case anyone needs warranty work. You will be doing everyone a big service. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dario69:
I am glad to see others have picked up on this. Compared to the Fuze the Tilt2 screen just plain sucks. Even my Pure looks better. A shame but if you are paying full price for this you should get the best. Or at least not deal with shortcomings from the previous generation of devices.

I hope it is just a problem with the first batch of phones but how long until it gets resolved? I guess I might just stick with the Pure after all.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] At0mAng:
I have all the RAW files but when rebuilding the XIP is getting messed up. When I get a chance I will fix it but I am sure the EXE will be available soon.

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About the screen issues...I have some updated stuff here
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mutantblack:
As soon as the dump file is up, I can flash to different rom. I am getting frastrated with this stock rom. It's slow as turtle. May be I got spoiled by xda roms on my fuze and got use to that speed. heh.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] iceman4357:
At0m or Arrup- what Blutooth stack/build is in the stock AT&T? It seems to have worked best for me. When I went to a different ROM on my Fuze the blutooth didnt work as well, and my phone numbers, missed calls, ect didnt transfer to my car.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vikramdhani:
I need to return my phone to att and wondering when the official rom will be available for me so that i can return the phone to att
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Neutron1998:
Did you try calling AT&T and asking them?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] alwayslearning:
I hope it happens soon, I do need the stock ROM or the EXE file so I can return my Tilt2 because I think the screen sucks, my Telstra TP2 gets a much stronger 3g signal than the tilt2, so I think ATT did more than cut back on just the LCD screen.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jola66:
HTC Removed Tilt 2 from site....

...HTC has removed the Tilt 2 from the site completely. Maybe this is a sign that they are making some changes, perhaps the ROM will be on there soon.

Im not sure how long its been off the site, but I know it was up a day or two ago. They didnt provide much info or anything when the phone WAS on there but thats expected since it was new. Crossing my fingers that they have the Stock ROM up soon.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mpr_ger:
It's still there. It was there all day... ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pinoymutt:
Still there, no ROM though

http://www.htc.com/us/faq_detail.aspx?p_id=295&act=faq&cat=0
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ai6908:
You wont get that until AT&T released a pulic ROM!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pinoymutt:
Looks like we've got a live one on another thread if anyone is interested in trying it :)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4780356&postcount=9
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Neutron1998:
Any word on when AT&T will release it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] omaralt:
what are you talking about?? at&t will not release their rom??! somebody here has to dump it, somebody will then take it and package it up into a nice .exe file so you can flash it (seems like it was done in the above post). at&t (and other carriers) dont release their roms
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] KewlRobD:
That's what I thought but a previous poster said that he has seen the ROM's posted for other models shortly after their launch. To the best of my knowlede the only time I have ever seen an AT&T ROM posted was when they did some type of update/upgrade to the phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Neutron1998:
I need to bring mine back to factory install. :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] punkcell:
Has anybody given this a try?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pinoymutt:
If you go to the complete thread, looks like a few tries and there were some issues with it. I think the creator is trying some other things and hopefully another version shows up soon.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] khaytsus:
Meh, I was wondering about the posterization (banding), although the viewing angle seems okay to me. Don't have a TP2, Pure, Fuze etc to compare against.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] iceman4357:
I think someone finally did it! Doesnt have the stock radio or the welcome screen, but still wanted to share.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=4786572#post4786572
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Broken:
Got mine launch day at retail store. Runs great but internet speed is slower than iphone as others pointed out. Hopefully updated rom speeds this up. So far really like it.

Rom is 21849.5.0.63

Touchflo is 2.1.19183217.0
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vikramdhani:
So looks like alot of people are right now waiting for the stock rom and i just hope it comes out sooner than later :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] KewlRobD:
I don't know how legit this is but its worth a look. He claims to have the stock ROM, Stock Radio and Stock SPL

http://tilt2.blownfuze.org/#warranty
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Da_G:
Working on getting the AT&T stock ROM for everyone! Hope to have it soon.

I just got a tilt 2 recently (thank you to the handful of XDA members who helped me get it entirely without asking, you guys know who you are and rock my world!)

Incidentally to add to At0mAng's short video he took comparing the Tilt 2 to the HTC Touch Pro 2, I got a Pure before the Tilt 2 and returned it in favor of the Tilt 2, but I took some comparison pics beforehand.

In photo 1, the Tilt 2 is on the left and the Pure on the right. You'll note that the tilt 2 appears to be "brighter" to the camera lens - this manifests to the human eye as the colors being washed out and the screen being overly bright. It's fairly slight at this angle of incidence (both screens are quite acceptable), but if you look at the 2nd image (the Tilt 2 is on the right in this image), you'll see that at a more sharp angle the effect stands out like a sore thumb. The pure screen is comparable to the Fuze/Diamond screen as far as contrast and color accuracy goes, but the Tilt 2 is quite subpar. As a sort of tradeoff for this the backlight seems to be a notch or two brighter. I feel that when viewed from an angle other than dead on the Tilt 2 is very substandard as far as image quality goes.

I feel that HTC made a manufacturing decision to save money on the Tilt 2 screen by using a lower quality LCD panel. This really gets under my skin given the added cost of the Tilt 2.. and from what I understand all other models of the Rhodium do not suffer from this issue.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pinoymutt:
The guy is legit (has a great write-up/site on the Fuze as well), but I think the radio and SPL he links to are the pre-release ones. He may have had a pre-release copy because the versions of radio and SPL we have been referring to on various threads are different.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] moderateinny:
Yea baby - Da_G is in da' house! Used your Raphael stuff and it was solid. Happy to see you'll be one of the new chefs around here. Something tells me you'll be putting out a new kitchen as well at some point. ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pinoymutt:
Folks, I'm pretty excited by this comment -- for those that have been around a while in the Raphael (Fuze) side, Da_G is one of the premier contributors to the ROM world around these parts, so if he's on it, hopefully we'll see something soon. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] herg62123:
i will donate 20 us dollars to anyone who has a complete tilt 2 stock rom shipped from htc and posts a link here for it
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] moderateinny:
Get your $20 ready for Da_G. The guy is really good (as stated above).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] herg62123:
i know da_g real well.......i use his rapheal kitchen in rapheal forum and his 6.5 dumps in dev and hacking

if da_g says he is going to do it he will
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ai6908:
Yup I am sure Da_G will have it soon for you herg...;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mutantblack:
Yes!!! Da_G is on the Tilt2 Team.

Known you from Raphael and I know you are one of the best. We will get the rom dump soon since you are here.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Da_G:
Well, I found a _test rom matching the version info, but it's not _ship, so i imagine there's some difference there. But i'll check out the SPL and whatnot, see if its the same version, if so it might do the job until I can get the _ship one :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] herg62123:
if you have away and get a shipped rom....you have 20 dollars coming to ya
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] KewlRobD:
What exactly qualifies as a pre-release model? I bought mine the day it became available to only premier members.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] roblo:
Tilt 2 Rom

This guy Doug Simmons has the rom dump get it here.

http://tilt2.blownfuze.org/#warranty
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] venelar:
yes! Da_G is here. btw i know yout get a ton but check for a pm!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pinoymutt:
The pre-release ROM floating around was a test build that is older than the ROM that went out with the shipped versions.

Specifically - the radio, splash screens (has a test build message on it), and actual SW versions are all different.

I am not sure if the SPL version (0.87 is what we need) is the same on the test ROM, but Da_G is looking into it, so we should be covered there. I did try and extract the 0.87 SPL from a dump of my production Tilt2 and posted it in the Hard-SPL thread, but no one has really commented if it worked or not...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ai6908:
What is the original SPL for tilt2? Does anybody know?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pinoymutt:
0.87 is the version of SPL shipped with the Tilt2 (which are what we are trying to get).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Da_G:
I posted the Radio and SPL from the test ROM here:

http://rapidshare.com/files/298009044/Tilt2-Test-SPL-and-radio.rar

The radio I think is out there already, SPL is 0.87 shipped, so this should be acceptable for a warranty return (should be same as stock) - it will need to be signed with olinex cert before HSPL will allow flashing it.

Still no luck on the final shipped ROM though, doh!

Edit: This matches the one pinoy posted already, so the ball is in the HSPL team's court to sign it for us :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pinoymutt:
Thanks Da_G -- would you happen to know what version of the Radio was in the test ROM that you posted? I think the shipped version is 4.48.25.20, but I heard the version in the floating-around test ROM was 4.47.25.24, so was trying to get it straight in my head...:confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Da_G:
Radio I posted with the SPL that came from that test ROM is 4.48.25.20.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pinoymutt:
NICE!! We are getting there slowly but surely. Now looks like all that is missing is a properly signed SPL and a stock splash screen (I heard the one from the test ROM says "TEST" on it -- or maybe it doesn't?).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vikramdhani:
Glad to see there is some progress being done on this topic :) looking forward to the phone before i run out of my 30 days and cant return the phone :( back to ATT

PS: Does anyone think att will care if i will return the phone with energy rom on it ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] herg62123:
ummm yes there will be problems with this

I have built a stock-like rom with the reconstucted dump raw files and used da_g's posted spl and radio into a rom.

the only thing missing is the start up splash screen but everything else is there.

the download link is posted here at: LINK FOUND HERE TO DOWNLOAD

UPDATE: i have tested my reconstructed rom without the splash screen and everything works like the stock custom rom
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pinoymutt:
Awesome -- look forward to it!

As for the splash screen, I was trying to poke around in the Pure forums to see if maybe anyone had any luck there, since I would assume the ATT splash screen would be the same, and since it's been out a little longer...

However, in the Pure dumps (like the Tilt2 dumps thusfar), I couldn't find a splash screen either. Anyone else maybe have any insight (maybe I wasn't looking in the right place?)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Da_G:
att test rom splash
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] herg62123:
da_g is this with or without the words - TEST ONLY

if it is with out i will add it but if it is with test only i dont want to add it
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] herg62123:
post a link to the spl, radio, and os only in this post here (i am waiting to confirm the splash screen da_g posted is with or without test only in it. once confirmed it will be added and a new reconstructed rom will be made.)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4815821&postcount=155

UPDATE: i have tested my reconstructed rom without the splash screen and everything works like the stock custom rom
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] anit77:
I'll be getting my Tilt2 today. I can pull the Welcomehead & Animated files if you guys need them, or anything else that is needed for that matter.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] herg62123:
we have that already

we need the splash.nb file

the same file when you turn the device on and the first picture showing the at&t globe and under it says world phone

the one you talk about is the ones after the splash screen.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ai6908:
Flashes fine, but says test only not for sale! But has at&t logo and also says my phone is world phone now!:p:rolleyes:

Now dang I got the stupid at&t splash screen...:mad:LOL
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] anit77:
It was just delivered, although I have some work to do before I can look at it. Give me an hour or so and I'll see what I can find.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] herg62123:
thanks for reporting this

when i get off of work or if someone beats me to it

i will rip the splash screen da_g posted and see what i can do to remove test only from the file.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ptgptg:
if you tell me how, I will pull the ATT splash from my tilt2. I haven't flashed yet.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] anit77:
There are 3 splash files in the windows directory:

Splash_bg.zib 67.3kb 135kb 12/1/08

splash_landscape.png 67.3kb 5/14/09

splash_portrait.png 33.8kb 5/14/09

There are no *.nb files in there other than bmui.nb0 750kb 9/25/09

I started it up without a sim and the date was 9/25/09 so I assume that was the date it was flashed.

I'm more than happy to send anything from it you need.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mcfarlan:
Just some observations since I can't compareto the original. The only thing I have installed is Total Commander

1) Memory usge stays very high with no applications running...76%+...does not seem to affect performance though

2) Unable to completely dial a call using MSVC through BT. Get taken to the contact summary screen. This also happens with eras' rom.

3) To me, this radio is the best for the Tilt. Have tried two others and with this one, the "hollowness" is gone

Not meaning it in a bad way, but just take out the bloat and this Rom can hold its own against a few of the cooked ones we have today.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pinoymutt:
Herg - thanks a lot for your work!! One question though -- my understanding was that to revert to a Stock SPL, there was a different procedure (had to flash it separately). In your combo file, if one were to HardSPL and put on a custom flash (let's assume the splash didn't change), and then you flashed back to this image, the SPL would also revert to stock (0.87)?

Just trying to get it straight in my head. Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Nakel:
Not sure if this is information you guys are looking for, but I had the same problem with the shipped rom. Got some help in another thread & turns out you have time when you confirm with "Yes". Too soon and it just goes to the contact summary screen. Too late and it gives up. About 2 seconds delay on confirming the call is about right. Credit to GermanGuy for that.

Not sure if this will help or if there's a way to fix it...