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[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Im Packing:
Can this be flashed on top of a cooked rom?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Stalix:
Yes, radios can be flashed separately outside of roms.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Im Packing:
Thank you for the quick reply.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] leobg:
I can confirm similar experience! About GPS I also thought it is the placebo effect, nice to hear I'm not the only one on this :)

So far I am very pleased with this radio. Yet to see power consumption, so far on standby i think it loses between 0.5 and 0.75% per hour. But that's not very accurate (I have activesync running on background pushing my email over)

To me it is no question radio works differently than before. I also flashed using the microSD card method btw.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Im Packing:
Can't comment on the GPS as I don't really notice a difference, BUT I can comment on the reception. Being inside a concrete building my reception has increased by 2 bars at times!!! :eek: But it almost always is increased by 1 bar at all times! Definitely a must for people who have weak reception.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] gundamboy:
awesome, my reception in my house has went from 3-5 bars in certain locations!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Im Packing:
I'm fairly new to the X1 and all of it's features (1 week today) and all this talk about "Radio" had me thinking it was just the actual "FM Radio" reception everyone was talking about! :o Thank God this thread was up as it made me realize exactly what it is. I'm still trying to read all the posts.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] xfile2208:
Good, good, this version really good
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] jkoljo:
Somehow my TomTom software does not recognize any satellites now, other than that, signal increased 1 bar inside my house. Neither does Google Maps.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Oobly:
Flashed.. Do I have to do a hard reset after flashing the radio or will a soft reset be enough? Is there some radio specific info which needs to be cleared or not?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] zoz33:
New to Radio flashing, what is rilphone.dll and why is it dangerous flashing without making sure it's the correct one?

I have christian ROM and will go to one of itje's soon, what do I have to do if I want to use this Radio?

thanks
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] PredatorX11:
in Italy with 3g, i do not see any different from 1.16 or 1.14...:(

where the signal is low...is instable and low...:D:(
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] wazaaappp:
No way!... of course it shows me 1 more bar, but when I'm doing a call it looses every single bar... back to 1.14
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] logancruiser:
about RIL and radios

The rilphone is generally carrier specific more so than it is radio specific (unless HTC makes both for same carrier). As such, the ril should not affect GPS reception as much as the radio itself.

Sometimes, HTC makes a balanced radio intended for John Q WinMo phone, but often they make one where they care more about data throughput and not much about the battery (or vice versa), poorer GPS locking but better GPS, etc. People insist that you MUST test all of this yourself because ultimate performance depends on location, ROM and carrier. There's perhaps some truth here.

I'm no expert in this matter, so I encourage you to do some reading at the "RILPHONE.DLL and 'how to' with a Radio" thread in your spare time. :)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] mdshahed:
Great Radio !!

Great Radio !

very good batt life so far.

fast GPS fix.

no change in bluetooth.

no change in wifi.

1-2 bars more everywhere.

more consistant H signal.

tried all radios including 14 and 16.

using Xperia x1i on ATT.

Agent's Leo latest rom.

thanks for help.:):):)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Mopral:
Seems to work great!

-better signal

-less battery drain

-phone is less hot

I use it with rilphone 1.14 because rilphone 1.16 does not work fine and I can't find rilphone 1.17
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] jkoljo:
So how do i security unlock my xperia? Flashed without it (i think, i have hardspl and my phone is not sim locked) earlier, and my gps did not work. Anyone help?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Mopral:
My phone is not security unlock and garminXT works great with this radio...

Which GPS software do you use?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] jkoljo:
I tried Google maps, TomTom and Race chrono. All of them have worked before. Now that i flashed back to 16, my gps is all good again. I miss that extra bar..
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Mopral:
Google maps works for me...
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] JimKahn:
Thanks for the radio. If rilphone.dll driver software is carrier specific, which one is best to use on AT&T in the US? The radio is working fine for me without any ril, unless there is one cooked into the ROM I have (Valkyrie 3.8 FireStorm) , so do I have to install one?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] nickx1:
Great radio, better reception in my house by one more bar. I tryied the radio with 1.14 rilphone but the reception got worst. I wonder why? Has antbody experienced this? I would greatly appriciate any feedback from people on tmobile in the us on the best combination of this radio with a rilphone. Thank You.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] logancruiser:
I use 1.14.25.55. Others, including a resident expert & Moderator here @ XDA Captain_Throwback says he prefers 1.14.25.35 (link) from a recent AT&T Fuze ROM update. Search the forum, you may be surprised at what you find.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] papped:
I seem to get better 3g reception with 1.14
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] leobg:
I use Garmin and Google Maps and both work properly with the new radio rom. May be it is the rom you are using?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Archimago:
New radio works well here in Vancouver, Rogers network. Significantly more HSDPA connection, sometimes 4 bars constantly which I've almost never seen before.

GPS working for TomTom and Google Maps.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] kthorus:
wrong place, sry
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] eDaniel:
I also had problems with GSM reception although the phone signal was very good. I switched to WM6.5 rom so I will give it another chance tonight.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Im Packing:
I don't notice any difference on battery life, BUT I do notice that my phone isn't hot ever! Just maybe a little warm, but nothing like before. And the reception is still good. :)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Oobly:
Seems to be a very good radio. Reception is good and power usage is low. I use it with a 6.5 ROM and 1.14 rilphone.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Stalix:
me too, isnt it amazing how much cooler the phone is now. before talking on it for 5 minutes it was near boiling my hand.

are you security unlocked, or not?

I'm pretty sure that this radio by some freak accident, that flashes fine without the need to security unlock your x1. :)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Im Packing:
No security locker here.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] papped:
Hmm, that doesn't sound quite right in the first place...
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] gundamboy:
i'm also noticing the cooler phone effect!

Sadly, my reception still dies in certain parts of vancouver/burnaby
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] hutchy007:
Well used this for a few days & i can confirm tat the phone is mahoosively cooler.

Reception & battery life seem to be no worse either :)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ferlanero:
In general terms, do you recommended to upload my actual 1.14 radio to the new 1.17.25.09 version? Do you think de benefits are enough to upgrade to the new version?

Thank you very much for your answers!!!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] htc_fagn:
Conditions: TIM Network Italy

After usage for some days I reversed to 1.6 with rillphone 1.14

because the signal strength is lower than 1.16.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] schizzzo:
Same here (O2 Germany). I'll go back to 1.16, too.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] papped:
There's no way to tell without trying it, since everyone gets different signal.

This radio made my signal much weaker than 1.14, other people report it's stronger.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] biernes_atrece:
flashed it. but how come im still seeing 1.11 in Device Info?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ferlanero:
Ok, papped... then I'll try it! Thanks!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] logancruiser:
Yeah, it's a little weird for me too. Sometimes I clearly see 1 or 2 bars with HSDPA in areas where before I only got Edge with 1.16. Other times, I get what seems to be a lower signal in regions where my signal was much stronger with 1.16. It's almost as if it's not so sensitive to signal fluctuations, nor is it constantly trying to finder a better one. This explains why the device may be running cooler at times. But so far, I think once it finds a signal it holds onto it very well.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] papped:
Kinda similar to what I saw. It would hold on to a very, very weak HSDPA signal, which made the network not very usable in low signal areas.

I tend to get much better HSDPA in weak areas on 1.14. But then again my battery never gets hot anyways, so no reason for me to stick with 1.17 really.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] jescca:
Aha~Thanks very much!You know there is a great wall in China,so some web station such as youtube .etc we can not access them,:p:mad:
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] pdamouse:
I've read through this whole thread just now, and I'm wondering if this ROM could be optimized for North America - it seems most people that say it is working better for them are in NA - and many have X1a phones. Could the difference in frequencies between the two versions be contributing to why some find it better than others?

I'm interested in trying this as my phone currently drops signals quite often when I hold it - hoping this might help. For me in Toronto on Rogers it seems like a good idea - it's interesting though that the heat on those using WM6.5 has reduced so significantly (from 'boiling hot' to 'cool metal'), yet no one is reporting better battery life.

Also one person said that the signal looked better while not calling, then went down while on call. Can anyone else reproduce this?

Peter
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Gunner22:
I'm using this radio in Australia and loving it not just because of the phone reception but more so the gps works more efficiently and locates more sats and keeps them.

I have noticed that someone observed that this radio doesn't spend energy looking for better service access and that just may be the case as the unit is definitely cooler and maybe the chipset isn't stressed looking for better service and is freed up more to (as in my case) find and keep a lock on satellites.

I'd be keen to hear from other users in Australia particularly in southern Australia as to phone reception, battery performance and gps performance.

I'm currently using ITJE's TouchIt 14.2.1 rom with all the fixes and given all the tempting releases since, I still can't justify flashing to another rom.

Cheers,

Gunner22
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] rex922:
if i flash a new radio and then a new rom does it overwrite the previous radio??
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] harveydent:
Read the first post.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] harveydent:
All of the ROMs have tried didn't change my radio when I flashed them so either:

a) flashing a ROM doesn't change the radio, or

b) all of the ROMs I've used didn't come with their own radio, so it didn't change them
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Oobly:
Nope, but it different ROM's may be using different rilphone.dll files. This could change the bahaviour of the radio slightly.

I always install the rilphone of my choice (1.14 when using 1.14, 1.16 or 1.17 radios) after flashing a new ROM. That way I make sure my radio works the same way all the time.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] rex922:
thanks man i appreciate the reply u too harvey

ya rilphone im gonna add that to my uc list and all will be good :cool:
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] pdamouse:
I hear that - that could be the answer, that it is now doing other things instead of trying to reconnect. The energy had to come from somewhere, so when it got hot before that means the battery was supplying the power that was getting wasted as waste heat. The only way there shouldn't be better power consumption in those cases (eg. where this radio moved users from having hot handsets to cool ones) is if this now means more power is being redirected to other functions that do not produce heat, but do consume as much power.

So my question is, can anyone comment on the power consumption with this radio on Win Mo 6.1 and 6.5? If the reports are to be believed 6.5 consumption should be much better than before...

Thanks,

Peter

P.S. It'd be good if people posting thier results can also include what ROM they are using, X1i or X1a model, rilphone.dll version, where in the World they are and with what Provider. That should give us all the info we need to find a pattern and find the best way to utilize this radio :).
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] njordan:
I've tried this Radio, but in my (agent ROM) case the system starts to hang up for some seconds much more often than it has ever done before.removed and the effect was gone. as I have not seen this effect here in this threat before,maybe its just me. But wanted to left this note...
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] papped:
Possibly from losing signal and having to regain it? I got a lot more of that on this rom.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] logancruiser:
Thanks everyone

Thanks everyone for trying this one and reporting back. Appreciate all your input. I quite agree that where there is excellent signal, it's a bit slow on the pick up -- not as sensitive to signal fluctuations as is 1.16.25.48.

But on the flip side, if you live in the woods (like me) and only get 1 bar while standing on the roof of your house, then it seems to hold the signal longer than 1.16 and about the same as 1.14 -- at least in my case with AT&T in the US. Wifi has been about the same -- perhaps a tad faster in finding networks. Getting GPS lock is much snappier in my case.

Let's see what others find. Would luv to hear about anyone else's experience in the US with AT&T.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] pdamouse:
The danger in testing the GPS is that, unless you do a hard reset, the satellite data is saved from the last time you downloaded it. The longer the time between when you did it last and now, the longer it takes to get a connection.

That's the difference between a 'Cold Start' vs. a 'Warm Start' vs. a 'Hot Start' - if you just connected less than an hour ago and haven't moved much, you should get a connection almost instantly if the device has visibility with the sky.

I can't say for sure if this data is saved before and after a radio flash, but some people could be testing the connection time with the previous radio, then installing the new one and testing ago - and low and behold it connects much quicker - but not because of any change in the radio - just that the satellite location logs are recent enough to still be mostly if not completely valid.

Just FYI, this data is downloaded gradually when you turn on the GPS and once it has a copy it locks onto the various birds in view. You can download it through the GPS helper app on the phone from Wifi/GSM as well and this can also affect lock times, along with how long since the data was last updated passively.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Stalix:
I dont know if this is a network, radio, or phone issue, but today i cant get HSUPA working.

I couldn't get anything to download, so i hard-reset, still nothing worked. So reflashed the old 1.16.25.48 radio, and still nothing. Then flashed to another rom. Still no go...

later I disabled HSUPA in settings and works fine. But it worked fine before.

So i have determined its one of these problems.

1. 1.17 Radio fried my UMTS chip (that would suck badly)

2. Network disabled HSUPA.

3. Just some flashing mishap, need to flash back to stock rom+radio.

Anyone else on ATT in the states (preferably West coast) and has a HSDPA/HSUPA capable phone, could you test to see if you can download anything...
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] papped:
West Coast here, yes I can download over HSDPA fine. I'm using 1.14 radio though.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] :
My short experience with 1.17

As on the signal strength - haven't noticed much difference with different networks in Ghana (Zain, MTN, Vodafone). The phone itself is much-much cooler even using WiFi for several hours!! GPS is about the same. However, this Radio is a BIG BATTERY EATER!!! I get 4-5 hours of normal usage while on 1.14 it's 6.5-8 hours, with 1.16 - 7 to 9. The problem with 1.16 is that it is to sensitive to signal changes and switches between G, E and H to often which brings disruptions during phone conversations (some times to often). i'm sticking with 1.14 for a while now.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Stalix:
This is very strange... I can connect and download just fine at home (Sacramento) but I can connect at work (West Sacramento).

Weirder yet is Ican connect at work only if I disable HSUPA... which is very strange if you ask me. I dont know if its a network or phone issue.

any Ideas guys and gals? I have flashed back to the generic UK rom,and it had no effect.

I did have a very strange screen flickering issue when flashing to the original.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] djromeo:
Hey, i am using the default Rogers X1a with R3AA010 in Hamilton as well. Just wondering on what you mean by the H sign when you use data? i only get a 3G sign?? Also, did you have to Sim Unlock/Security Unlock your device before updating your Radio from default Radio?? Do you recommend i do it as well?

Thank You.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] leobg:
You get only the "3G" icon because Rogers original rom has disabled the "H" sign via registry. No matter UMTS or HSPA connection you will always get "3G". If you want to enable the "H" icon, simply use "Advanced Config Tool" for Xperia and under "data connections" change "HSDPA icon:" to enabled. This will let you see when phone is using UMTS (3G) or HSPA (H).

You need to have phone hard-spl-ed to be able to flash different radio. SIM lock doesn't matter. Security lock - mine wasn't security unlocked but I used the radio just fine. Flashing this radio without HardSPL installed will transform your Xperia into a expensive papwerweight. Be careful (installing unauthorized software on the phone like the OliNex HardSPL will void your warranty too). I am sure you read all stickies in this thread :)

One advise to you (if you are sticking to original Rogers rom): use the original radio. Looks like Rogers Rom coupled with Rogers original radio gives very nice results in terms of battery consumption, signal strenght indicator fluctuations and especially connection latency and speed. Especially in low signal areas.

After prolonged use I found 1.17 very unstable in low signal areas - browsing gets lagged, often timeouts despite the 2-3 bars strenght indication and "H" connection...
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] solomhamada:
I'm currently No0ow in egypt using the local etisalat carrier on my t-mobile xperia x1

the gps here really suck .. previously .. i couldnt get even a weak signal in the balcony

but now .. inside the house .. about 3 meters away from the nearest window .. i got a weak signal of one sat .. i do think this is slightly better

will try this radio for more time .. and will update you

thanks for the efforts
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Oobly:
I have found it to use more battery than 1.16 in my area, so switching back to 1.16. 1.17 gives good signal (number of bars) and doesn't seem to cause as much heat, but 1.16 is better in a call and uses less battery in standby even though it seems to switch more.

I find that when I am on the bus listening to music with WM6.1 ROMs I sometimes get a small hitch in the playback, could this perhaps be caused by the radio switching due to different strength signals as I travel? I haven't noticed it on most 6.5 ROMs, though.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] pdamouse:
I actually just had that happen to me earlier today while playing Pocket Player about an hour ago while making some pizza - when I took the phone out of my pocket to check I realized I had Wifi switched on, and it would pause the music for a second every time it connected but without any dialog box or anything else happening.

Thanks very much for this info - now I know what those dealers at Pacific Mall who said they could give me a quick fix to connect to the H network in North America with my X1i. They were confused since it was the X1a that needed this fix - but the X1i that can't connect to 3G or H without the right towers - which only recently were setup where I am in Toronto.

I'm still on 1.14 stock w/stock rlphone.dll w/Jack 6.1 - based on these reports I'm thinking I'll stick with that for now...
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] leobg:
Do you actually get 3G connection with X1i here in GTA? That would mean Rogers deploying towers at 1900MHz. Which means many phones with this band will be able to use 3G here. So X1i (not 'a') gets 3G signal in Toronto??
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] vatio123:
My xperia run in ROM touch IT Xperience v15 build 21854 & radio 1.14.25.55...when to change with this radio ( 1.17.25.09 ) doesn't work...whats wrong ?

please somebody help me

thx
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] pdamouse:
Read this :) : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=565000

Sorry vatio not sure how to help with the radio no longer working - I won't even try to suggest anything besides maybe flashing back to the old radio that worked... not even sure if you mean it won't flash or what...

- Peter
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] logancruiser:
What exactly doesn't work? Can't flash the radio? Get an error? Does flash okay, but...??
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] vatio123:
the radio not change after flashing 1.17....the messege in screen is "complete" but in my device still 1.14...please give me the tutorial stepping in this case
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] jkoljo:
Read the first post.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] gundamboy:
my reception was better on 1.16, so I reverted due to fluctuating signals and dropped calls.

both of which I have never had before this radio, unfortunately :(
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ejat:
the radio suddenly lost gps signal while i was depending on it to guide me through unfimiliar roads. and aren't able to lock even after soft reset (waited for 10 minutes). the sky is clear and i'm not in any forest btw

i was forced to flash back the 1.16 radio in the car beside the road. good think i had the laptop with me with the radio in it.:rolleyes:

no more 1.17 for me.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] pdamouse:
Ouch...well with that precedent I think I may stick with 1.14 for now. I depend on the GPS like that sometimes, and I'm considering a trip to the USA to save on shipping a lens - I'll definitely need it...

Kind of interesting your sig though: "Hard reset solves a lot of weird problems. so hard reset your ROM today" :p - but that's right, and I probably wouldn't want to hard reset in that situation myself either, not unless the reflash of 1.14 didn't work...
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] mobilkungen78:
it works grate! no security unlocking what so ever.

hsdpa allways 4 bars and gps fix in just seconds

thanx
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ejat:
radio flash/reflash don't require a hard reset. that is, unless you're flashing an older radio on a device with a newer rilphone.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] harveydent:
Had the opposite problem from ejat... GPS (garmin) doesn't work on 1.16 (without a workaround). 1.17, GPS works perfectly
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] hutchy007:
Well tried this a while now & gone back to 1.16.

Basically you do get good service but the battery life sucks quite considerably. Might be the new Manilla thats caused this so im gonna test back with 1.16 for a week or so & report back. Initially 1.16 seems to be better on battery life.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] lewislew:
installed....

nothing big different with previous 1.14~
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] katars1s:
Reception is better on a new rom. The signal appears in the corner, where was no signal on 1.14