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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] imabored:
i think i read somewhere that it'll be 299.00 after a $50 rebate with 2 year contract. not completely sure though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poppinpengawen:
really hoping for this. I read somewhere (i think wmexperts) that it could go for $349.99 after $50 rebate. I hope ATT doesn't go the T-MO/sprint route, n leans more toward the verizon route. Either way, im gonna try to bargain with the workers to lower the price a little. Maybe 250? haha
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] imabored:
yeah. im hoping that 49.99 deal that people have gotten the past couple weeks. haha i doubt it though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jtoyz2:
yea i want to get this the first day but tmobile and sprint had their tp2 on sale a week or two after it release for a day or two...i dont want to buy it and see a deal like 200 or lower show up that would hurt...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] WatermelonSlim:
I don't care about the discounts, rebates, etc. I am planning on paying full retail for mine. But I need to know the full retail price because I have to withdraw the money like a week in advance from my brokerage account...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] htcfan78:
The subsidy price is usually $150 less than full retail before MIR. I suspect that the full retail price is $349.99 + $150.00 = $499.99
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sleze:
Keyboard is UGH

I can't agree more. If you want to dial it like a normal phone, use the touch screen. I don't want to have to hold Fn every time I want to TYPE a number. I wish I could swap the keyboard out somehow...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] petard:
Well I don't want to hold fn every time I use punctuation, which is far more often than numbers.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SoapDoctor:
I've got the sprint TP2 which needs to go back because sprint coverage is horrible in my area.

Looking at the photos and the couple seconds in that video in the other thread I have to say the AT&T version looks really chincy compared to the sprint version. Is that what took so long for At&t to come out is excessive value engineering?

Either way I'm going with the cheap ugly at&t version because I don't have a choice.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] godefroi:
Really? It seems to me that among the US carriers, AT&T has the one that looks closest to the original HTC version, which I kinda get the idea that everyone likes best. AT&T messed with the keyboard but it looks like they had sense enough to leave the rest alone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] :
check your IM..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] KevinACrider:
Ah, I found it. Well I'm due for an upgrade on the 17th of this month, my local rep should give it to me early. Hopefully they have it instore tomorrow.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] iboj007:
Can someone post or PM me the link?

Thanks,
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] KevinACrider:
I screenshotted the link, just to save it.

http://www.kevinacrider.com/tilt2.jpg
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Kvothe:
I think I will wait until the sun rises and then I will raid the att stores. I will attack from above will flying fire breathing dragons, I will hurl mountains of rock to break open their coffers on the ground, and I will even cause the earth to tremble from below just so I can get my hands on a dang tilt the second, and I will bring Mr.T just to make sure I get to take one home. Better watch out A double T, it's been about time for a long time to be Tilt 2 time. I pity the fool...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] srsaleenstang:
some pics of it take a look
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cincy1020:
Are options 2 & 2a possible? Isn't data plan required for the life of the contract? I would love to be able to do this, since I do have the $30/month data plan, but that line is not upgradeable until February 2010, but my other line can be upgraded now, however I do not use data at all on that line.

Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cincy1020:
This is not necessarily true. My mom has ATT, she used to have a Moto Razr (which she bought from ATT), a friend of mine no longer wanted their AT&T branded Palm Centro, so I gave it to mom. Put her old SIM in, and voila, worked perfectly. Her account info online still shows the Razr, and of course the picture of the Razr.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Jola66:
LOL But isnt it true that the phones are in the warehouse but not in stores for sale until the 18th? I thought the memo said that there are "other channels" to get the phone starting today but not stores until the 18th.

I really, really dont understand why ATT is making this so difficult. If you have the phone ready, SELL IT! Quit screwing around.

Anyhow, I hope sometime this morning I can sign into the Premier site and see the Tilt 2 listed. I know we all have that link now, but I only see it at $8xx still. I am eligible for an upgrade and Im ready to sign a 2 year contract, as ive been out of mine for a year now. I dont see that option on the site for Tilt 2 at the moment. Let all hope they get this thing straightened out soon.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] thedon0369:
I get that same price when logging in using the Premier Account. However if I navigate to the phone without using the backdoor I get the coming soon page.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] KGET:
Still not on premier. Just checked. I find it interesting that they are not offering the $50 rebate on Pure. It is showing for $199? no rebate. I guess if you don't want an iphone you have to jump through hoops and bark like a dog. You know if they were launching the 3gs+ with greatest new invention video on a phone, they would have them stacked at the door.... extra reps and discounting them while handing out free coffee and sandwiches. I would just like the to know if I go to the store could I purchase the phone if I want??? jeez!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] WatermelonSlim:
Really? Mine changes within a few hours whenever I put my SIM in a defferent phone. So does everyone that I have tolked to (both in person and in forums like this). Crazy.

Although, I think mine might be a picture of a RAZR (it's some generic flip phone) while using my unbranded Touch Pro 2. AT&T's system has no idea what my Touch Pro 2 is since it's unbranded, so it defaults to the flip phone...

I don't know what is going on with your mom's account though if all the phones are AT&T branded, crazy.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] WatermelonSlim:
You know, this is a very good point. when AT&T releases a minor upgrade to the iPhone, the hard date is known months in advance, they have extra employees on hand all with the proper training, and they make a big event out of the whole thing.

Right now we can't even get a solid date that we will be able to buy the Touch Pro 2, and nobody at the stores knows what is going on either. And this is for a device that could very well be launching TODAY.

Someone needs to point out this discrepancy to all the fanboys on the AT&T forums that freak out anytime someone hints that AT&T cares more about the iPhone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Toleraen:
I'm kind of curious about this. Has anyone confirmed that you don't get the rebate with the Pure through Premier? Every time I've checked their site for upgrades it's always as expensive or more expensive than through the regular store. Other than the discount on rate plans and better CS I've never seen a benefit for premier.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] At0mAng:
Tilt2?

I woke up very eager this morning to get a Tilt2. After not seeing it on their website, I called but not in invetory yet?

Anyone have any word on it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Tempest790:
Nothing here. Rep told me to call back after 2:00 pm if its scheduled to come in today.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] maahes:
Just got off the phone with ATT customer care/sales/cancelations, didnt get good news.

I was told yesterday that they would have the Tilt2 avail today, however today its "not in our system" and "previous associates were mis-informed". The new ATT line is "its being stocked at our wharehouse but wont be available to ATT core or chanel partners for sale untill the 18th"

So off to the Verizion store for a shiny new touch pro 2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] zachoo:
I called a local store (Cambridge, MA) last night and they said they were expecting it, but didn't have it yet - maybe in Friday's shipment.

So I used that link on page 14 to get to the order page. Got all the way to the checkout button, but it still said "Prelaunch Tilt2", so I called premier sales support.

The support person said "that phone just came out today, looks like it's still being entered into the systems" but she was able to see the order at $499 no-contract, full retail pricing.

I ended up not buying it (20% company discount kicks in soon - almost talked myself into paying $100, just to have it a week early... damn maybe I should do it...)

But the good news is that they know of it and should be alive and well today, as predicted, in some stores.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] zachoo:
Another update - a friend of mine just called seven different AT&T stores in the Chicago area - none of them have it in... that's a little less positive.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pbk105:
Could AT&T be a more unreliable non-customer focused company? I think not. I mean really, how hard could it be to just keep their customers informed? They seem to delight in jerking their most loyal customers around.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] garydchi:
I tried calling every store in Lake County, IL (North of Chicago) and no one had it. One store even said it would not be out until 10/18...

Im pissy now!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] AvengerBB:
The problem is that people can't read. Anyone thinking they will be seeing it in stores today is crazy. AT&T DID keep us informed by saying it would be stocked in the warehouse today, available through the business channels starting today, and not in stores until the 18th.

Hopefully we'll see it on the premier site soon.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Pumpiron579:
Just got off the phone with a AT&T rep and he told me that the tilt 2 will be available online, in stores and thru customer service the 18th of Oct. :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pbk105:
I guess. I don't recall this sort of confusion about dates with the iPhone though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Jola66:
They should at least have a better understanding on what is going on with the phone and be able to convey this to customers. When people are getting different answers from different ATT employees, there is a problem.

Why tell us it will be in the warehouse on this date if we cant purchase it? If they will be in the warehouse today, why not start taking orders?

Again, why are they making this so difficult?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] WatermelonSlim:
They did NOT say that. They said it will be available in "COR" (whatever the heck that is) on 10-18-09 and in "other channels" (whatever the heck that is) on 10-08-09.

Nobody knows what the heck that even means, and 90% of the people you talk to at AT&T don't even know what the heck that means- they all have a different answer on when it will be available.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Toleraen:
I have to disagree a little, AT&T isn't even keeping their own employees informed of the situation. One store I talked to said today was the day they'll start selling it, had spec sheets on it, but had no idea when stock would get in. Another knew it existed but knew nothing about it. Another hadn't even heard about it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RacerX10:
The girl at my local office said she'd call me when the truck comes in .. so I guess she's kinda expecting them in today.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] KNIGHTMAREZ:
I just ordered mine through buisness care. It didn't show up on the Premier site yet, but I just order mine next day shipping by calling the Business Customer Care number ((800) 331-0500). This number might be a normal customer service number but since my account is a business account I got forwarded to Business Customer Care.

The phone price is $349.xx with a $50 rebate bringing it to $299.xx. Next Day shipping was $14.xx but I didn't care, I want it before the weekend.

NOW you know it is available!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rickerbr:
We went through the same thing when the original Tilt came out. You just have to check the Premier site until it shows up. As it is now, I won't order until Sunday/Monday since it does me no good if it shows up tomorrow (won't get it till Monday anyway). Rebates should work on Premier (they always have in the past).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Jola66:
Partial transcript of chat with ATT Rep:

Ashish R: I would like to inform you that you can purchase HTC Tilt2 online on 18th October, 2009.

Charles: so it wont be available to Premier members before then?

Ashish R: I understand your concern, however it would be available for purchase online on 18th October, 2009.

Charles: but not to be rude, you arent really answering my question....

Ashish R: Correct, it would not be available for Premier customers before 18th October, 2009.

Charles: the ATT memo stated that the phone would be on sale today and in stores on the 18th. they said it would be for sale through "other channels" today. can you clarify that? or at least say "not" it will not be available to Premier accounts until the 18th

So, I give up on this now. Count down to the 18th begins
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] iceman4357:
I just called my business rep here, and I should have one tomorrow. The price is $350 in her system, she said they have not gotten anything yet on the rebate and when they do she will credit my account. I also sent her the pricing for Verizon and I am going to send her the pricing for sprint to see if I can get it for $200. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rickerbr:
Rebate form for the Pure has the Tilt 2 on it as a checkbox as well so you can get it off of the website.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pbk105:
Now tell me, how is it that this same company can tell iPhone customers when the iPhone will be in the stores down to the minute yet for us, it is a complete circus? And is it really too much to expect that we be allowed to get excited about releases of our fav phones like the iPhone people do - especially since we are often times paying MORE for our phones than iPhone users are?

Ever since this iPhone baloney started, it seems like the rest of AT&T's customers were assigned second class status.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Chriscgb6:
I called premier support, like another member did, and I was able to have them place the order for me for a no-commitment price of about $550 with tax. The phone operator had not heard of the phone when I placed the order, but he did have it priority shipped to me and it should arrive tomorrow by noon.

OT: First post and am looking forward to becoming a member of this community, as well as flashing my first ROM!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] KevinACrider:
My local store is expecting a few in this afternoon and will sell me one when the truck arrives. I called about 7 different stores, all told me the same thing, coming in today, available when they get there...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Jola66:
Awesome! I called and was able to place an order. I did overnight shipping but she was unable to tell me when Id receive it as she isnt sure when it will actually ship.

Anyone who ordered, if you gave them your email address, you should receive an email when it ships. At least that is what she told me.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jtoyz2:
what do you mean sending sprint and verizon price in? did she said that was okay to do a price match with them?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sklinger:
Just off the phone from Premiere Support / Business Care

They inform me that some devices are hitting their warehouse and orders are being served on a first come first serve queue basis. He expects that many more will be available within the next 1-3 business days.

I couldn't add device insurance until the device was received according to the Business Care Rep I was transferred to.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] KryptosXLayer2:
what a huge waste of that 5th row on the keyboard.......

stop waiting and get a Telstra, people! I've been messing with this thing over the past week and it is SO much better than the disaster the Tilt2 is going to be.... If you're so pissed off at AT&T for releasing the TP2 LAST, then why support them by saying "ugh, I hate this phone, but I'm going to wait on it regardless"

I didn't get an original Tilt because of how screwed up and locked down it was, so I wasn't going to "downgrade" to the Tilt2 just because of the 3.5mm audio jack - hell, I use Resco Radio and output internet radio in my vehicle using bluetooth anyways, so what's the REAL reason for trying to use it as a media player? That's why my 80GB Zune is for! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] khaytsus:
No 3g? No thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DarkDvr:
So you want us to get another phone based on the idea that we won't use the fifth row of keyboard as much? Umm.. No.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] KryptosXLayer2:
Who said I wasn't using 3G? Read my sig, thank you! the Telstra has an 850mHz UMTS band, you know........
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] AvengerBB:
Called business customer care and the first guy told me it wasn't available (didn't even check for me) so I called back and the second lady was very helpful and ordered it. Overnight shipping so hope to see it tomorrow!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] garydchi:
I just got off the phone with the regular sales dept. They still did not have it in their systems, but forwarded me off to the customer care dept. Customer care showed it as not in stock yet. I had a nice guy that called a few other dept to see if he could actually get some, and could not find one for sale (he did say the Business dept had some for sale but only for people with business accounts). So no phone for me today :-(...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] -haze-:
This sucks, I just got my Fuze on 8/29 and was hoping for ATT to release the Tilt 2 within my 30 day window so I can return the Fuze and get the Tilt 2.

Has anyone been over the 30 day period and gotten them to accept an exchange?

I don't want to pay $550 for this phone. I have the Premier plan and my bill for 2 phones is over $200 a month.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] WatermelonSlim:
Where can I get this Telstra version? If it works on AT&T 3G then this is a no brainer...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Kvothe:
Are there any actual sightings of a Tilt 2 (even a demo) in a store, anywhere in the U.S.?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] i_z:
I am debating to go your route for three reasons:

- att is upsetting me too with their policy on bringing in non iphone devices

- personally dislike the design and especially the keyboard of the att version

- I would do a lot of things to avoid paying the $30, just because they can identify my imei nr

Questions:

- How can I find out if my area has the 850MHz, or the 1900MHz towers? (I am mainly in Los Angeles and Palo Alto, CA)

- Will att recognize a telstra imei in case they did a check?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] iceman4357:
I like having my numbers together using the FN key. I can type numbers faster. having a full top row of numbers is a waste to me. I would much rather have symbols easy to access instead. So you can keep your canadian phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] iceman4357:
dude, you have until 10-29. they are releasing it to store on the 18th. Return it then, or try and find a store that will sell it to you early.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sclui56:
I called up ATT premiere sales twice in the last hour, first rep couldn't find the Tilt 2 and kept giving me the line that it was not in the system. Second rep went further and found it, said she could order it, but since I am not eligible for an upgrade, she quoted me a price of $8xx something, I stopped cold when she said '8', that's more than an unlocked. No thanks... My Fuze will do for now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ZzFDKzZ:
Just wait for it man. Save those $100. :-p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Kvothe:
Do you know where to get a Telstra TP2 for 500-550? I like the dual camera feature, and would be cool to pay about the same price as the Tilt2 for it. Still, most of the deals I've seen are 700+. I can't pay that, maybe for the HD2, which comes out on the 19th. http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news5148.html

So the Tilt 2 officially comes out one day before the HD2.:confused: I might even be willing to go 3gless for that, maybe...:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] -haze-:
My bad, I meant 8/29. So yea, I'm over the 30 days.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] At0mAng:
Holy cow...

$879 - $50 discount...$829?

Is that right? Even when extending contract or adding a new line.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ZzFDKzZ:
Update: We were just sent an internal AT&T memo that says the Tilt 2 is actually being stocked and sold to business customers as of today, but that it won't go widely on sale until the 18th. So, our question stands, with an addendum -- anyone planning on pretending to a businessperson today in order to grab one?

- Engadget.com

http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandts-htc-tilt-2-coming-october-18/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] iboj007:
SUCCESS!

I got my FUZE last year the first day it was available in stores (11/10) and was not eligible for upgrade pricing until 11/11 of this year based on that.

I called premier sales 3 times this morning and after speaking with reps who insisted that there was nothing that they could do to authorize an "early upgrade" price for me until next month, I finally got through with one rep. who was able to sell it to me on 2 year contract price.

I ended up paying only $299 (waived the mail-in rebate as well as free overnight shipping!).

After she was such a great help I asked to speak with her manager and left him a nice long voicemail commending the service that was given to me.

I'm a happy camper :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Merkur79:
Got mine

I called a few numbers and they all told me not available, until I called 1.800.866.1514 for 349.99 $18 upgrade fee and a 50 mail in rebate and free overnight shipping.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] l3it3r:
Just ordered mine too :) Used the Premier website
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] AvengerBB:
It is now on the premier website!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ashwincr:
same thing happened to me too. I ended up paying $299 on a 2yr upgrade and the lady told me she sold one to another customer before I called in and that is how she knew about the phone! I made the order about 1.5 hrs ago but still can't track the order using the order confirmation # I received. did you receive a confirmation email at all?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] hopper13:
Seems pretty random. I just called the same number and was told it's not in the system.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pbk105:
Yeah, it just showed up on my company's presmier page for... 829.99 after $50 rebate. Ridiculous. Either post it and price it correctly or just don't post it. Then they wonder why they get swamped with calls...