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[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] icybrizz:
my htc diamond cant see channel 13 wifi network. i am in Singapore, so it's legal to use channel 13 here. There r over 4 ppl sharing internet so we chose channel 13 as we get the best signal n browsing speed in this channel. Cant some1 help me pls? Any help will be appreciatted. (sry for the poor english). i changed the regional setting to uk but still cant detect channel 13.

i changed the registry of dot11desiredchannel to 13 but still cant see channel 13.

i changed the LCID on the registry ( i think it might affect the wlan searching) but still it doesnt work.

now i'm desperate!! ANY help pls.....i managed to change it to channel 13,last week, so my htc can actually see channel 13

but bcause of some problem, i restored it to the original factory setting.......now i.......... can some1 help me pls? thanks
[Hero, G2 Touch General] waltson:
For years we where used to transfer contacts via Bluetooth-Exchange on the go.

Now, with the still missing Obex-Capabilities of the HTC Hero, there is another very simple & fast way to exchange contacts out on the streets:

1) Download and install the free app Barcode Scanner from the market. Here is the QR-Code:

2) Start the app, press MENU and choose SHARE. Select SHARE CONTACT and pick one.

3) Voila, you see the QR-Code of the selected contact, and anyone with a barcode scanner can now easy add this contact by scanning the QR-Code.

Actually this method is way faster than Bluetooth transfer ever was. No need to hassle with pairing, connecting etc.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ajones7279:
Lol you need the barcode scanner app to scan the qr code for the barcode scanner app. :)

And that's actually pretty good. Only thing is, it's limited Android to Android and nothing else.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] waltson:
yeah, i thought of that also, after posting ;-) But there are several barcode apps out there. So the code helps getting this specific one.

And no, it is not limited to Android. My Eten Glofiish mobile with WM6 was capable of scanning QR-Codes also - it came even with a very handy Business Card scanner, which i could not find for a unrooted Hero so far...

Oh, and the Nokia N95 was also capable of scanning barcodes, just with the iPhone of a friend he has some troubles getting this to work.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] waltson:
pls del

admin, please delete this double post, thx & sorry.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ajones7279:
Oh wow that's cool. I didn't know any other platforms could read codes like that.
[Touch HD General] Aspi914:
Considering the number of users of the Blackstone in this forum PLUS the other enthusiast sites such as modaco.com and htcpedia.com should we not start up a lobby group to petition HTC to get access to the WM 6.5 upgrade PLUS new SENSE GUI ???

I understand the HD2 is on it's way - but a lot of us waited for the release of the HD and supported HTC by purchasing it....at very least we could get the 6.5 upgrade OR an update to the TF3D (i.e. SENSE) interface...

Any thoughts ???

Asp
[Touch HD General] diizii:
Agree. They should give us at least the new GUI. :)
[Touch HD General] abubakar:
I agree. Not because I want a wm6.5 update with htc sense from them (there are already plenty here), but because how they sidelined us, users of the "older" touch hd, touch pro and diamond. It wasn't that long ago, HTC. Don't try to justify yourself. Imagine paying big bucks for a HTC Touch HD 5 months back and now you read a statement from HTC that they won't be providing updates for you cause you're using an "older" device.

I mean, c'mon. Don't treat us like rubbish. We helped you to become what you are today. From a nobody in Taiwan, to the number one producer of windows mobile phones. The Blackstone was only released about a year ago (or less, to be exact). Did you really expect us to keep changing devices every couple of months? No offense to TD2 and TP2 users but the spec sheets of these "newer" aren't any different from the Blackstone's! Benchmark results may prove otherwise but the bottom line is, the guys from HTC releases new phones every now and then which has little or even no improvement from the devices their replacing and they expect us to keep up. wth.
[Touch HD General] Aspi914:
I agree with abubakar comments...

You're right about the "Older" reference - My phone is 6 months old and I have to read comments like http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=8773

And again you make a valid point - they should have an 18 month minimum on platform updates / enhancements.

When you go to the HTC website for support - for example "HTC Touch HD ROM Upgrade (For Telstra)" they quote that "As always, HTC is committed to providing customers with the best possible mobile experience"

Is access to either WM 6.5 or HTC Sense an example of "HTC is committed to providing customers with the best possible mobile experience"
[Touch HD General] Aspi914:
Anthony Petts is the Sales and Marketing Director ANZ for HTC Corporation - Any one got any contact details for him ?
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
Can't really see a petition doing any good. The HD is a great device but it isd starting to be over shadowed by newer devices which HTC want us to buy instead of giving us updates for free. Why would they change this when they don't need to!!
[Touch HD General] diizii:
I know that I'm very dissapointed in HTC and that I'll probably never buy new phone from them. Their support is very bad and there is so many new phones, so... I'm totally confused which I should buy for example. I have Blackstone and that's probably tha last phone I'll have from HTC.
[Touch HD General] 4wilton:
Having been the owner of both the htc touch cruise and the hd 8282 I will say that htc customer support is a bad as I have ever seen from a mobile phone manufacturer.

Seems as though once you have purchase the device they forget about you. I have made my mistake twice and will not do the same again. I guess I will bite the bullet and get an Iphone unfortunately.
[Touch HD General] crankshaft:
I have to say that I'm on about my 5th HTC device and only once have I had to speak with HTC support and they where pretty good. My old Prophet had a problem in that it was stuck in headphone mode! HTC replaced the mainboard and had it back to me in about 12 days.

With regards to updates to WM6.5 for example, if you brought a PC from HP with Vista on it do you think they would give you a free copy of Windows 7 when it got released? No they wouldn't so I'm not sure why people expect HTC to do the same thing?

What would be interesting is if Microsoft made available for purchase the latest build when they release them but then of coarse you'd be left with just a vanila OS and none of HTCs own apps. Unless HTC went down the route of making available all their apps in a similar way HP and the like do for PCs?

PS - I'll also be buying a new HTC device when the time comes!
[Touch HD General] hassler:
maybe after the 1st intro of WM7?

6.5 sucks for me

and if Microsoft not gonna do anything about improvement then HD is my last WM device
[Touch HD General] trentend:
It seems to me that if you buy a phone with a certain level of capability (or system software level) you have a reasonable expectation to support to maintain that level. Unless it's part of your contract at purchase, it is unreasonable to expect new software and enhanced functionality.

I'm not being funny, but I've seen similar calls many times over the last fifteen years. I've never yet seen them be effective. One of the most frustrating examples of this is the powerful video hardware, totally unsupported by drivers on a large number of HTC devices. Massive campaigns - no substantive action.

I mention this as a warning to people considering a new purchase from HTC, like for example the the new HD2 - it's a great looking hardware platform, that the OS doesn't natively support. Doesn't it feel like we've been here before?

I'm not buying another HTC device until the capability of the hardware is fully exposed, in a consistent way via the systems software, for use in applications. I don't see any of the HTC WM devices where this is not some level of an issue, in fact the last phone that I had from HTC, that didn't give me some cause for concern in this regard was Tytn.

From now on I'm only buying finshed, well integrated, mobile devices. I want to spend my time and money exploiting their potential and adding features I need.....not trying got get them to work properly and overcome limitations in the release state of the device. I'm drawing a line in the sand, right here.....
[Touch HD General] Aaronc1978:
+1 I couldn't agree more! I'll be keeping an eye on the forums for the new phones and unless I'm satisfied HTC are finally using an operating system that can fully utilise their great hardware, this will be my last HTC device.
[Touch HD General] smeddy:
+1 to the OP, and I'm behind the line in the sand too
[Touch HD General] sdh:
I read somewhere that if the phone does not have windows start logo button on it, chances are slim that you get 6.5 update. Touch HD has that button missing.
[Touch HD General] Huck33:
i prefer a good non official cooked (wm6.5) rom than an official one

So it don't really matter for me.... but i still think that's a shame!!
[Touch HD General] jonpickles70:
crankshaft

Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007

Posts: 246

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I have to say that I'm on about my 5th HTC device and only once have I had to speak with HTC support and they where pretty good. My old Prophet had a problem in that it was stuck in headphone mode! HTC replaced the mainboard and had it back to me in about 12 days.

With regards to updates to WM6.5 for example, if you brought a PC from HP with Vista on it do you think they would give you a free copy of Windows 7 when it got released? No they wouldn't so I'm not sure why people expect HTC to do the same thing?

What would be interesting is if Microsoft made available for purchase the latest build when they release them but then of coarse you'd be left with just a vanila OS and none of HTCs own apps. Unless HTC went down the route of making available all their apps in a similar way HP and the like do for PCs?

PS - I'll also be buying a new HTC device when the time comes!

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HTC Blackstone

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if u bought a pc with vista they are offering windows 7 at a reduced rate to ya so why not do that with windows 6.5?????????????????????????
[Touch HD General] arfster:
Because very few would pay for it, making it a waste of their time.

Besides, their business is selling new phones. Why cannibalise the sales of newer models by upgrading older ones?
[Touch HD General] Aspi914:
In many cases they do - prior to Vista release and again with Windows 7 there are machines that are enjoying upgrades once the new software is released - sure HTC are doing it with select devices as well - but you have to admit that with the HD being just 6 months old (...in Australia anyway...) that it would be fare to deem it acceptable to offer an upgrade....

Agree with your comments here - and I would have no problem paying a reasonable fee to upgrade to 6.5 and HTC SENSE.
[Touch HD General] frederikk:
For me, i'd rather have a rom update with all the new focntionnalities of the TF3D ( newer version or even Sense UI perhaps !), bug fixes, etc. than a 6.5 windows for the touch HD with all the old things.... what windows 6.5 really brings to us ? a new start menu ? what else.... less memory usage.. i don't think... faster ? don't know really cause 'im not an expert, but didn't really see anything new interesting... and of course anything an application can do, freeware of course and without having to cook a ROM...

So, my point of view.. i'd rather have a new rom on old windows but optimized and with new fonctionalities !

Ciao

Fred
[Touch HD General] Moandal:
Ever heard of a company called Apple and a phone called the iPhone?

Why should I buy the HD2, which will become out-of-date as soon as WM7 arrives in a few months, when I can get an iPhone and free software upgrades for life?

HTC need to become more customer focussed and pay more attention to the competition.

However realistically I don't think a petition will work. Falling market share might though.
[Touch HD General] trentend:
Presumably there is an issue with licensing (the OS is provided by microsoft), and with ongoing support for devices not designed with updated OS's in mind. HTC has a history of not retrospectively supporting hardware. Once device is developed they move resources onto upcoming models.

It's our own fault if we clamour after, and support with sales, poorly optimised devices. It's something I'm not prepared to tolerate any more.

WM phones can exceed the functionality of other systems, but require a lot of hacking/customising to do so. Most enterprises prefer Nokia (symbian) or RIM handsets as a result. Easier to roll out and support.

People here who stridently support the functionaliy of their WM phones, often do so because they put a lot of work into hacking them for their own needs. As a systems manager my users have roundly rejected this approach, and I have to listen to them.
[Touch HD General] cbasualdo:
Eventough I don't think HTC will react to our intentions I will totally support anyone who can make anything in this direction. We have the most expensive phone from HTC and is not old enough for not to upgrade it. :mad:
[Touch HD General] msld:
WM6.5 would be nice, Android even better

I agree that it would be nice if HTC would relase WM6.5 and the new interface but I think it would be even better if we could get an official cab with Android for Touch HD...
[Touch HD General] rmcsilva:
+1 Fully agree!
[Touch HD General] Rami9:
Guys,

This thread is going nowhere... I say a petition is opur best way to make htc listen.

I know that this will be my last htc phone if they will not release an official upgrade to WM6.5
[Touch HD General] jacksprat:
Having run 6.5 and TF3D on my HD, I can't understand why HTC would make this available? The phone really struggles to cope with this newer software, so while it works, it's not really very usable. :(
[Touch HD General] Aspi914:
But JackSprat - is that an official ROM or is it cooked ???

Asp
[Touch HD General] ypsmav:
email address of HTC Europe

I sent a few emails to HTC and finally I got a call from a nice lady who told me that old devices would receive an update after all the new ones get it. She was trying to be nice, but she has no clue of what really will happen.

She gave me an email address where to send the request:

htceuropesupport@htc.com.

Probably some of our senior members can write the letter on behalf of all us.

Just want to add, that I support the some members which say that if we don't get the upgrade this will be my last HTC device. I got it with a 18 month contract from my operator which expire in DEC 2010, and expect to get updates at least until them.

Apple knows more about customer care than HTC, it's a pitty that I don't like the iCrap they sell, but still considering it as an alternative.
[Touch HD General] itsallshots:
You guys are brilliant!! Just a shame that we support useless companies who dont bother to look after our dedicated supporters!!
[Touch HD General] jonpickles70:
so do ya think we'll ever get it or do we have to buy a leo or better still and for the last time(because of lifetime updates)buy an iphone lol
[Touch HD General] Aspi914:
Brilliant - and maybe we need a bit of PR as well - I am happy to contact Phil Nickinson at wmexperts.com to see what he thinks can be done as well...

He just wrote an article called "You want Windows Mobile 6.5.1 (and the new TouchFLO 3D)" see http://www.wmexperts.com/you-want-windows-mobile-651-and-new-touchflo-3d

He makes the point;

Maybe he can help us out with an idea of dates and the like !!!!

Cheers

Asp
[Touch HD General] Aspi914:
Oh....and I forgot the alternative....

I would contemplate installing Android on my phone and when people ask "is that an iPhone" (which I get all the time with the HD) I can proudly say its a HTC running Android and then explain why.....
[Touch HD General] umesh:
If HTC Touch Diamond 2 and Touch 2 can get it then even Touch HD can. I wouldn't like to load my new THD2 with a cooked ROM as yet.

If Samsung can do it, even HTC can. If it's a matter of cost, sell it to us who would still mind paying and getting something better officially.
[Touch HD General] diizii:
When Windows Mobile 7 gets out, there will probably be Touch HD 3, and HD2 won't get update. :) I'm sure that HTC will wait until Microsoft publishes new OS so they can publish new phone and not provide support for "old" devices. Come on, how can HD be an "old" phone?
[Touch HD General] jonpickles70:
so has any one found out anything yet,have you signed the petition also???
[Touch HD General] deha:
Today I got a call from HTC also, with promises about upgrade....
[Touch HD General] mancsoulja:
NEW RESPONCE FROM (MATHTHEW UK - IRELAND CUSTOMER SERVICES

THANKYOU FOR YOUR INTREST IN WM6.5 FOR FULL DETAILS INCLUDING OUR ROAD MAP PLEASE SEE THE URL BELOW

http://www.htc.com/europe/press.aspx?id=112024&lang=1033

The Touch HD will not be getting the update but you maybe very interested in our new version that already comes with WM6.5

http://www.htc.com/uk/product/hd2/overview.html

Thank you

-If these steps have not helped, please let me know by responding using the link provided and I will be happy to check again for you.

Best regards,

Mat

HTC Customer Support

HTC Corp. Global Service Division

http://www.htc.com/europe/CA_Hotline.aspx
[Touch HD General] jonpickles70:
above post is taking the micky,maybe i just bought the hd for £245 only a few months ago and havent really got or want to spend a further £500 on the hd2 but would like to still be up to date with my software.......................THANKS ONCE AGAIN TO THE GREAT(NOT) HTC.........................ANYONE WANNA SWAP AN IPHONE FOR MY OUT OF DATE HD maybe then i can keep up to date with the latest software releases.............anyway thats me finished blowin off some waste of time steam l;ol
[Touch HD General] mancsoulja:
its not funni i have actually just paid £235 for my HD :mad: lol
[Touch HD General] sst:
if we don't get the update to windows 6.5 ..... i am defiantly not going to stay with HTC!! i thinks its stupid how the company are going about this. Even people with the iphone 2G got the update to 3.0 at the same time the 3GS was released 2 years after!!!

I really wanted to get the HD@ at upgrade time...but it looks like i am gonna have to get a BB as i am anti-iphone :o
[Touch HD General] arfster:
That's cos they want to sell you apps, so need a single platform.

Why should HTC spend money on an upgrade? They never promised or even hinted at one, and it'll cost them for Microsoft fees and programmer time.
[Touch HD General] jonpickles70:
to keep there loyal customers happy,thats why arfster
[Touch HD General] mancsoulja:
arfster is rite, a year old pc wudnt get a free windows 7 upgrade wud it? in terms of technology a year is a long time suppose :rolleyes:
[Touch HD General] arfster:
Do that and they don't buy the new phone (for which they've actually paid Microsoft win6.5 fees for).

What's a "loyal" customer btw? :-) If somebody else came out with a better phone, you and I would be off buying it instead.
[Touch HD General] jonpickles70:
TRUE................lol
[Touch HD General] SolidCrew:
I agree!

The Blackstone wasn`t cheap and i bought it a month before the 6.5 was realeased. It just seems fair to me.
[General Topics] chris247:
Hi,

Like lots of people, I synchronize my PPC with Outlook on my computer currently (I don't have exchange, I am privat person only).

But has serious limitations:

1/ I would like to be able to edit my calendar events on any PC via Internet and have the calendar event being updated on my PPC

2/ When I use my web site email account, I would like to have my contact list being in sync with my PPC so that I have all the email address of my contacts up to date.

How have you solved this problems?

I have heard about cloud mobile sync, it looks interesting. I have seen MyPhone, Funambol, Dashwire, ... looks nice but will it solve the point 2/ ?

I am ready to change my email provider

Otherwise I have seen Google Sync for Windows Mobile, it does seem to solve 2/.

Have you already used it ?

When using Google Sync, do you still sync with MS Outlook ? If yes, how ?

Regards, Chris
[Shift Development] tag14inc:
Hey,

I thought of this thing to make bluetooth work on winmo side, atleast for voice calls. Now there something called the Jabra A120s, which is a bluetooth adaptor for ipods/mp3 players with a 3.5 mm jack. Can we connect it to our shift and use it to stream wirelessly? I think ofcourse we can. Now the question remains would the mic work on it for the voice call? Does anyone of you have a bluetooth adaptor with 3.5 mm jack?

http://www.jabra.com/sites/Jabra/GN...cuments/Music adapters/A320s_MA_EM_EN_125.pdf
[Shift Development] Josasp:
No, it won't work.

Sorry.
[Shift Development] labnotes:
Sad faces all around! =(
[Shift Development] tag14inc:
ok i have tried using wireless headset on vista, noticed one thing that that mic worked from the hardware(shift) but not the wireless headset.. maybe this holds true for WinMo side too.
[Shift Development] cybericebyte:
i have a cdma shift where the mic dose work on making outbout phone calls but cant recive call in maybe if we work together we can get somewhere
[Shift Accessories] tag14inc:
Here check it out, its 100 times better than the proporta leather case. I have been using this from day one.. enjoy..

http://www.xell.hk/e/product/product_detail.asp?sku=1937&mscssid=8D7BCCCC5EA347C2949062A027868F62
[Shift Accessories] cadc82:
I still think the proporta leather case is the best one available https://www.proporta.com/F02/PPF02P05.php?t_id=4026&t_mode=des because it isn´t as bulky as yours and allows full access to all ports, including the stylus.

I agree that it also leaves unprotected the corners for scratches and little bumps, but if you throw in a invisible shield http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/htc-shift-cases-covers-skins-shields.php you are good to go!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Rick-Nash:
I'm looking for a software which I can see apps that run in the backround. It should be able to close those apps.

I'm using Windows Mobile 6.5.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Farmer Ted:
Do a search for 'Magic Button 2.1'. I use it on 21857 (and 23016) and the earlier builds. It closes things well, although it will also kill the start menu if you push the x-button to close it (I can tell you how to fix this if you need the help). I don't know how well it works with the com3 and later builds, where the x-button is relocated to the bottom of the screen. But, I would sure as hell love it if you would try it out and tell me how it works, lol.

Anyway, it's a great little task manager that doesn't use many resources. I've been using it since I had my 2003 device.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Myrddin Wyllt:
Try CleanRAM. Can be scheduled, programmed to ignore certain apps, run in several languages, and more.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Farmer Ted:
If you wanna go that route, you can use sk tools to kill everything that you don't need/want running (if you already have it, you're golden). Just use the shortcut wizard to created the 'kill processes' shortcut, and put it somewhere convenient. You can put any processes that you don't want killed on the 'do not kill' list, and then you'll be fine.