yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] TR_Maniac:
I agree that it is a bit sluggish.

Went back to v9 which is working perfect for me.

Meanwhile tried out energyz 21889 rom sense 2.1. A little bit better performance wise. some little bugs though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] TR_Maniac:
Sergio/Russ,

is het possible to add sense 2.5 view of emails in sense 2.1 ROM?

Energyz last rom of 16th january 21889 sense 2.1 has that, I really like it.

Hope you can add this feature in next release.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] b24zero:
Does this view of email support full-html like iPhone? If not I don't see any value by adding this to 2.1.

just my 2 cents.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pnxsinned:
I dont think it does, I do think tho that more characters can be displayed, which meqns that you don't need to open them, which saves time for me, which is money. more then 2 cent if i need to open every mail :p that is enough +value for me to add it :d
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] titan427m:
storage card

i know there's a difference between RAM and storage space, but i was curious as to the possibility of utilizing storage card memory for internet cache or possibly using a storage cards memory for speeding up other aspects of the phone
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] guntcent:
hey can anyone give me the page pool changer file
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mutantblack:
I am on nrg latest phoneix rom now until sergio release fixes or updated rom. 9.8 is too sluggish for me.

like everybody said, if sergio can implement the leo email like nrg did, that would be fantastic.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ctbear:
Try HDWall
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mutantblack:
here you go.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mkc90:
hi yall need help please

can i install this roms in my touch pro 2 (sprint) :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mutantblack:
nope. this is only for gsm.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cgigate:
V9.8 rom is too slow!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vgomez916:
try 8mb page pool on rom then reflash. works great for me very fast and stable now. loving v9.8:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] guntcent:
the lower the page pool the faster it is bro?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tofferbear:
From how the posts read it looks to me like the higher the number the better. Seems like people feel between 12 and 16 gives the best perf although I have mine set to 32 and it's pretty darn good. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
I posted some notes on this a few pages back, the Page Pool is similar to the windows swap file on your PC, virtual memory. It needs to be sized correctly for optimal performance. So, there is no "bigger is faster, or smaller is faster" it is a function of the device, the ROM and several other things.

Most of the reports I have seen lead me believe that between 12-20Mb is working well with PRO/EVO.

Keep in mind the larger your PP the less free memory you will have for applications.

From the road...

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] combat goofwing:
still using pro 9.5 and runs great so no reason to upgrade to 9.8 at the mo

please please please any chance of opera 10 as the default browser in a future update
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pumpiron579:
Right from the XDA wiki,

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=PagePool

"The large the paging pool is, the more code pages can present in RAM simultaneously -> the less loads from slow ROM -> the faster the device is."
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
Pumpirion579; quote the WIKI all you want, once the PagePool reaches a certain size increasing it further is pointless. Tell ya what, go set your windows swap file for 200GB and see it it decreases your page load times on XDA...

I'll wait....

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vgomez916:
it is true there needs to be a balance. im running 8mb and im not having any probs with the rom like i said very responsive no lag very good ram and fast. lots of ram for all my ram hungry app like igo8. two days now running with no reboots lowest ram so far been 96mb stable and with a clean ram back to 102mb. did try 8mb with some of nrg's roms and wasn't the same needed a larger pp but with v9.8 8mb is working flawless running on two tp2s now and same on both. you can always start at 8mb and move up until is runs to your liking:cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tofferbear:
What would be cool is if we could put an additional paging file on an SD card for even better perf. :-D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wildfxp:
Hey Russ or Sergio, do you guys have an estimated time when the Evo4.1 will be uploaded?

I just want to know when, so I will be ready to test PP settings again :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pumpiron579:
:cool:It is interesting and I fooled around with my pp on these damn PPC's for years. Just wanted to give some correct info so if someone wants to change their pp they have something to follow and know how it works.

Cheers
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jcrompton:
Messing around with our pp's

We should change the name of the thread ... haha
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jcrompton:
Browser

Now for another topic - how many of you guys using this ROM have changed or "upgraded" your browser i.e., Opera 10 or Skyfire ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Learic:
Running a page file on the SD card might cause excessive battery drain due to the constant read/write access wouldn't it? I have been trying to install applications that I use alot in Main Memory and only using the SD for minimal use apps because of this "fear!" If that's not the case, I'd definitely like to install and use more of my SD card!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] guntcent:
okay man im using 20mb for NRG rom right now man what do you recommend on his latest rom for the page pool bro? should i try 8mb on his roms bro and contact me through yahoo if u can man cuz most rom im using ram goes as high as 80 percent man
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vgomez916:
are you using leo or Phoenix 2? well what i would do is just start at 8mb and see how it feels to you if lagging work your way up until it feels responsive. just remember the higher you go the less program memory you will have just try to find a good balance. i haven't tried nrg's latest rom if i have time today or tomorrow ill test it out with pp
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Sergio76:
Thanks.

Im getting it ready to upload.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Xandegar:
New ShakenSave built into G-Trigger

Found this great app that would be ideal to replace the simple ShakenSave one that is built into the ROM...

http://g-trigger.kneps.com/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Sergio76:
Thanks bro i will have a look into it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Sergio76:
New version Up. :D:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vbeli:
problem in wifi in v5.

any fix?

you are right. My rooter has problem

sorry.

BTW your ROM is fantasic

sorry again.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Sergio76:
Thats impossible im using my tp2 to type this message to you and using wifi. before i release a version i use it for a 24 period to check sms,mms,phone calls,internet to make sure they work 100% cause this is the most importante thing on the phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cd993:
hi sergio, great work this is such a flawless rom, amazing! Just flashed the v5, but wondering if you could upload a cab for the battery and "X" close icon (the red sqaure) which used on previous roms?

Would be great thanks!

ps: a cab for all the previous taskbar icons would be goog, just noticed bluetooth icon is green, I prefer the blue!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Xandegar:
V5 :)

Just downloaded and flashed it... so far so good. Have to admit have noticed much difference... HTCAccountManager still playing silly buggers...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] laurence0609:
Been playing with v5 since yesterday and i must say, this one ROM is almost perfect! Could not find any bugs, really! Thanks so much Sergio! How about a touch of Leo ROM now that you have perfected this version? Cheers!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] region777:
??

Why is facebook spelled Facebok?

Just curious, thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Xandegar:
He fiexed this with V5
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cd993:
Don't know if anyone else has done this yet but after installing Neo S2007 Driver Pack 3, this rom is even faster to the touch! Using the links below: download OpenGL 3d test install and let it run its 3d demo and save the results somewhere when its done as 'old'. Then install the driver, soft reset, let your device fully boot, re-run OpenGL test again and save results as "new". Finally compare the results and you should achieve higher results which to me made navigation through TF3D even smoother (if that was possible for an already VERY smooth rom!).

Also the 3d game XTRAKT runs amazingly well, give this a try!

If you don't find a difference you can always uninstall the drivers I think but best do a backup just in case it permanently modifies system files, however I certainly won't be uninstalling!

Let me know your experiences...

OpenGL Test: http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=182005&d=1241813202

NeoS2007 Driver Pack 3: http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=231046&d=1253797253

XTRAKT: http://rapidshare.com/files/210069982/Xtrakt__Release_Build_r6415_-_Menu_softkey_fix__-_090227_signed.CAB
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Sergio76:
Thanks bro. I working on the 2.5 version. my be up in the next cople of days.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deviusdragger:
new to this rhodium scene here, im digging this rom, and idea on when the next one might be popping up? Also maybe if you could give us a couple of options as far as the flip clock font.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BohicaBobby:
Error Report Message

I flashed the V5 Rom and it's really running nice on my TP2. The only error I am encountering is when I restart the phone (after having powered off, or a soft reset) I receive an "services.exe" error and the error reporting page. I know that I can tell it not to inform me of these errors, but I really would like to know what is causing this and how to avoid it.

I flashed the stock rom first and did a hard reset. I then flashed the V5 rom and did a hard reset and a soft reset (I thought that might take care of it, but it doesn't). I've reflashed V5 a couple of times.

Any ideas?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Sergio76:
That error you getting is not causing any problem with the rom just disable error reporting. And dont worry about it cause the service.exe is working fine.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BohicaBobby:
That was a quick response! Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Sergio76:
No problem bro. I will be releasing new version tomorow. You can check changelog for whats new i aways update it as i go... :D:D

Any ideas for next version welcome. And as always i try my best for them to come true.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BohicaBobby:
I'll be looking forward to it. Your roms are great! By the way, you should have a donation from me (just sent it).

Bob C.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Sergio76:
Thanks a really appreciate it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tofferbear:
Honestly I can't say for sure. I have a good understanding of how firmware works, but not in regards to how power is consumed. :(

I was just throwing a random thought out there. ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] titan427m:
EVO 4

so, i've using the EVO 4 ROM since last night and im glad to see that the glitches i experienced from EVO 3, have seemingly been abolished :D only problem i have found is that my push link on my internet tab arent working and the facebook one brings up an error when i attempt to use it :-/

also, im running the new .88 radio here in central california and am having a quite pleasant experience as far as reception goes; strong and consistent 3G. battery life seems about the same as .17
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] titan427m:
question, russ. when you say "immediately after flash" do you mean before the ROM loads up? as in, hard reset when it's on the TouchPRO 2 screen?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jcrompton:
I always flash using an SD card - I think safest

After the flash has completed - "Update Sucess" , I believe is the screen - I pull the battery. I then replace the battery and I then hold the 2 bottom buttons (Send and End) at the same time I press the Power button. You are then asked for a Volume up to Reset

This performs the needed Hard Reset
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tofferbear:
Hmmm...starting to see EVO 4 get stuck in landscape after I slide out the keyboard in text messages. I searched the thread and saw some issues with the Dark theme, but I uninstalled it and it still happens. :-\

This something that's been seen before?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] titan427m:
yeah, but once you exit out of the sms client, it should re-orient properly.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jazzperm:
I dont think this has been mentioned before. I noticed this also short after the flash, but I got solved after softboot. Since today I have the same problem:

The time is not displayed correctly, it hangs. Sometimes it is updated correctly in the taskbar, but freezes on homepage. (most of the times it freezes in taskbar and homepage) When I press on the clock, time on my location is shown correctly. When I set alarm it will also alert me on time, but its just the clock that seemed to be frozen.

(using Evo4)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hixmatt:
Mine does this all the time. G-Config does not work in this build either, where it did in Evo3. I ended up mapping long press of the Win key to toggle screen orientation. -Matt
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cjm1979:
Same here. Exact same same way i always flash roms and have no probs and no bad flashes either.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Learic:
On "The Cell Evo V4" release, has anyone played with the Manila --> Sounds --> Automatic setting? I set mine to Automatic and even though I have calendar entries for the day that normally switch "Automatic" to vibrate mode between work hours, on this release, I haven't seen it automatically switch between the modes.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jcrompton:
I too saw this but had already been using the PTT button re-mapped so that single press toggles the orientation - that way a quick press after it got stuck rights the wrong!

The re mapping also allows me to pretty much do away with the issues of the programs we use for automatic screen orientation.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] guntcent:
alright man ill start from 8mb man ill tell you how smooth it runs man
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] titan427m:
Evo 4, pp:20

i've been running on EVO 4 with a PP of 20 and everything seems to be running exceptionally well! I maxed out my internet cache as well and am able to navigate multiple pages, while running multiple apps without any problems. Only thing that doesn't run smooth is StarCraft, but it never has and it's only when a message or call comes in.

i'm gonna try reFlashing with the hard reset directly after completion and see if anything changes
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tofferbear:
Correct, it does...however it used to do it once I slid the keyboard shut. After about 3 days of use it won't do that anymore...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ehartung:
I´m also running 9.8 with 20mb pp. The phone runs smoothly. I mainly use it to e-mails, web-browsing and watching videos.

Everytime when I´m flashing, as soon as it hits 100% and goes into reboot, i hold the power + send + end to hard reset. After the volume up, I´m good to go. I´m very impressed with this ROM.

Thanks again.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] titan427m:
yeah, that happens to me on occasion. I have a feeling a value is off somewhere. I know i experienced this problem with another ROM and i simply had to go in and make my own adjustment. I don't recall where, however. it was under the direction of the Chef.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] TR_Maniac:
I have a problem: when I use cleanram on v9.8 cell pro My phone gets stuck at the end of the clean proces. Only thing I can do is soft reset with the stylus. Anyone with the same problem?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pumpiron579:
Yep, does that to me also. I don't use cleanram anymore. I will try it out again with next update. I installed memmaid.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Sergio76:
NEWS

New Cell Evo Rom will bring some new things from manila 2.5.

Email tab will be same as 2.5

Calendar tab and appointments from 2.5

All issues have been fixed

Pagepool 16Mb

Motweets added and a few more added that missed the last release test.

Latest windows build with office 2010 and email conversation.

And a few more things the release will be soon a get Russ to flash it and tell me the go.

More news will be posted by Russ or me on the next couple of hours.

Cell Pro will be released before Cell Evo and from both versions will be released a Lite version short after the Official releases.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vgomez916:
nice cant wait. thanks for all your hard work and time:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aichemist:
You fixing the facebook link on the internet tab sergio ? I noticed it on both the pro 9.8 and the evo pro 4 as well. Thanks =)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Sergio76:
All issues fixed.

Im back to use Cell Evo as my main rom for a day to day use i been using Leo Cell Evo as my main rom but i cant keep away from cell evo. this build to be released its the best rom i have cooked its too good to be real but thats the reality after a few days use i did not had any issues. after russ flash it and tell me its a perfect rom i will release it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tlglegacy:
been on the market for a new pernament ROM...this one caught my eye, trying out the new NRG one for now but considering flashing this one fairly soon my one concern is that i send and receive texts a lot, and most of the ROM's I've used have played up due to the messaging, how stable is this ROM and it's messaging

also what exactly is the difference between Cell Pro and Cell Evo....i went for the Cell Pro as of right now but I may be swayed into the evo....someone care to explain
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dotnetguyaz:
I'm also running EVO4 with 32PP and it's smooth and stable (so far). I've been able to run IE, Opera 10B2, and SkyFire all at the same time... could never, ever do that on 6 or 8PP. :cool:

Had one small issue using the Manilla Music Tab while running TomTom Navigator, but I think that is because my SD card is dying (oh so slowly!)...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] titan427m:
hmmm...i havent actually attempted to overload mine yet. im actually curious as to whether or not a higher PP helps or hinders a program like StarCraft...anyone happen to know?

and Sergio, why must you be such a tease?! lol Russ gets to play with the new toy, but we dont? how cruel! xD
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] demo100:
first impressions Cell_Evo_V4

Hi everyone, firstable I want to say THNAKS to Sergio76 and the rest of the Team for this fantastic ROM.

This is my firs time using this rom "Cell_Evo_V4", and well, I really like it, I am using it for a couple of hours and it is working pretty fast and stable :) , also I am very HAPPY to have the ability to make videos at 640x480 resolution :eek: and also the Manilla TV Player works perfectly. Talking about graphics, I like everything except the top taskbar (having colors, why black and withe? :rolleyes:), so far I am going to use this ROM.

Now, I don;t know if you will have that in consideration, but I really miss Manila 2.5, I like the way when press start you see 4 rows instead of 3, and also the home tab is amazing in Manila 2.5, but I really miss the ability to use Max Manila :( on top of Manila 2.5 ... but It's ok, I got 640x480 video jejeje

Do you think you will have Manila 2.5 in the future? or If is possible to install Manilla 2.5 in your rom? Thanks

I am sorry for my broken English ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
Sergio's LEO (Sense 2.5) ROM is in this thread.

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
Russ get's to 'play' with the new toy so Sergio only has to listen to me complain if there is a bug. Better one complainer than a few hundred. :D

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
Read back a few pages and you will find your answer.

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] 30Glock:
Is the new release of cell Evo # 5 or 4? I see #4, But I am not sure if that is the new release.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
Sergio hasn't sent me the new release to test so EVO 4 is the current one but not the new release.

Just as soon as he sends it to me and I get an hour or so on it (and no major bugs) he will update the first post and thread title.

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] 30Glock:
No point in flashing 4, I will wait for 5. But I am hearing good things about 4, so 5 is got to be amazing, (hopefully)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
Pro v10 & evo v5

All,

Sergio sent me a pre-release copy of EVO 5 and I found a bug in the new calendar. He felt that it was significant enough to fix before releasing to you guys/gals.

So, I will continue to 'play with the new toy' and send him feedback tonight and tomorrow morning.

As of right now PRO V10 and EVO V5 will be released tomorrow (Thursday) night.

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Learic:
I have no idea what this means but I was just browsing the ROM and decided to take a look at certificates. There is one on my phone under the Root Certificates that is issued to "Secure Server Certification Authority" and it is valid from 11/8/94 to 1/7/10. Does this expired certificate mean anything or is it something that can be ignored?

Again, I have no knowledge of what they mean so currently I have no worries! I was just curious since I found one in the list that has a valid date that has already passed!

Update: Nevermind, apparently it is a useless certificate.. At least that's my understanding! http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=180&uid=swg21410351
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dotnetguyaz:
Weirdness after setting 32MB PP

Well, I guess I spoke too soon... within the past few hours I have had to hard reset my phone twice while running Cell Evo 4 with my page pool set to 32mb. I'm not 100% certain if that is what it is, but I am going to try to bring it back down ~22MB PP and see if it continues to do it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] titan427m:
sounds more like someone's playing favorites :P how did you become so lucky lol