yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Jola66:
She wouldnt elaborate on "other channels"? lol I dont why they make this so difficult. Get the product ready, when ready....SELL IT! PERIOD

You have a Premier account. Tell me, do they usually sell phones earlier online to Premier members and make everyone else wait? That is what I am guessing on what they will do with this and maybe what she meant by other channels. I have no idea what I am talking about so I would take this thought with a grain of salt. Its just that I get the feeling that business customers get to be first in line 10 days early. Good news for you if its true.

But again, is this something theyve done before? "kinda" release a phone on one date to certain customers and then everyone else on a later date?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] terracot:
unlock tomorrow?

If we can get the ATT Tilt 2 tomorrow. Is there anyway to unlock it using the Hard SPL posted on the first page or necessarily should we wait until chefs do it for it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bennyj71:
You have a Premier account. Tell me, do they usually sell phones earlier online to Premier members and make everyone else wait? That is what I am guessing on what they will do with this and maybe what she meant by other channels. I have no idea what I am talking about so I would take this thought with a grain of salt. Its just that I get the feeling that business customers get to be first in line 10 days early. Good news for you if its true.

But again, is this something theyve done before? "kinda" release a phone on one date to certain customers and then everyone else on a later date?[/QUOTE]

Well.... The Pure was on the Premier Site Sunday. Membership really has it privileges. It was on the regular site Monday. All those "dumb" phones they put out the past month were on the sites the same time.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Jola66:
Well.... The Pure was on the Premier Site Sunday. Membership really has it privileges. It was on the regular site Monday. All those "dumb" phones they put out the past month were on the sites the same time.[/QUOTE]

One day isnt too big a deal. But 10 days?! And I agree, membership has its privileges. The problem is, not everyone has a chance to get that membership. I would do it if I could but I dont work for any company on their list, nor am I a student. So I think it is extremely unfair to sell a phone to private membership people who also get extra discounts, and make everyone else wait. Im not hating any of those who have this membership, but I am not happy with ATT about it IF being in Premier gets you the phone 10 days before I can get it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] :
So how do u get a premier account? I have an employee discount (FAN) account and when I logon through the corporate portal, it say's Premier store, but I don't see any options for new phones, etc - heck I can't even see the Tilt2. :mad:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bennyj71:
Here's the problem I see with this. If you are going to make it available to busines customers early, why not inform said customers. The ad just came out "officially" two days ago with no date. Why not have it on the site so we can know about the thing? The Fuze has been sold out on the site for a month. Why not put it up then so you can better guage the business demand. Hell they could have started taking the orders then.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bennyj71:
My employer has a corporate account with ATT. The Tilt2 isn't on mine either.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sklinger:
Premiere Tilt 2 Link

This was posted on wmexperts yesterday. Sort of a backdoor I suppose, but I ordered mine. There is still no link when I try and navigate through the premiere store.

https://www.wireless.att.com/business/phones/phone_details_main.jsp?skuId=sku7311300030
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bimori:
U ordered urs for 879??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Jola66:
So I guess that confirms it. Only Premier members can actually order their phone and get it before Oct 18. Everything ATT has been doing lately leads me to believe that their new philosophy is this, "If you are just an average customer, buy an Iphone, or go to another carrier"
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sklinger:
I really think they are gearing this device more towards business users (premiere site customers) and that you're correct in thinking average customers are being pushed to the iPhone. BTW... I paid 350 and there was no mention of the 50 dollar mail in rebate like the announcement said. I'm planning on calling premier support and asking about that and an insurance policy tomorrow. At $879 for the no commit, there is no way I could replace the device if something happened.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bennyj71:
Oh Well...

Just tried the link got this message: EU0_C90503 [001-2549-6972-7532]

We're sorry, we are experiencing technical difficulties. Please try again.

Guess, I'll try in the morning. It's funny because if you type Tilt2 in the search, it has various topics and pictures in the Answer Center.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] noggind614:
well i just got done ordering mine. $549.70 with next day shipping. Man i sure do love college =]
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sklinger:
Darn.. is that what you got for a no-commit purchase. I want a piece of that action... Windows Mobile 7 is soon approaching.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] WatermelonSlim:
Where can I get this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] noggind614:
there's a link on page 14 that points you to the right link. you have to be a premeire customer to access it though. and yes that's the no commitment cost plus tax and next day shipping
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] WatermelonSlim:
Dang, I'm not a premiere customer.

Do you already have the $30 data plan? I'm curious to know if it gets automatically put on your plan (either at the time of purchase or after you insert the SIM card).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Toleraen:
That link points to the $879 sale though, unless it's vastly different for various premiere accounts.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] imabored:
how did you get this price? on my premier it only shows for 879.00
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Jola66:
What am I missing? What is with the pricing? Over $800 and over $500 for the Tilt 2? I thought the phone retailed for $350 or $300 w/ upgrade.

I was able to use my previous college email address to sign up into a Premier account. But I dont understand why the price is nearly $900 for a phone that will retail for $350.

Anyone care to explain?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] noggind614:
i have no idea. i guess i got lucky. i used the link on the other page and it showed at $499.99. i don't know why it's showing $800 for everyone else. and i already have the data plan, actually data and text only, so i don't know about the $30 data plan requirement as i'm already playing that.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Kvothe:
2 minutes, maybe it will be up at midnight.....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Jola66:
I certainly hope people arent paying almost $900 for it just to get it early. Even $499 is $150 more than it will be sold at.

Again, can some explain this Premier membership. I have it now but I am not sure what the real benefit is. You save a little money on your plan but in the case of buying a Tilt 2, the price sky rockets from retail price. Why?

I think id really rather wait a week than pay even $500 for the phone. Is it that worth it to pay $150 more than it is going to sell at just to get it several days early?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] noggind614:
well the reason i paid $150 is because i am not eligible for any upgrade discounts as i haven't been with them for even a year yet. and i've been waiting for this phone since feb when originally announced so it's well worth it to me to get it now opposed to next sunday
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] WatermelonSlim:
The $350 price you speak of is the 2 year contract price. If you buy it without a contract (no commit) it will be around $500.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] iceman4357:
mine shows $879 :-/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ZzFDKzZ:
LMAO that's crazy. I paid $350 for mine. I guess first come first serve?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Jola66:
Hmmmm. I am out of contract right now. I signed up using my school email address. I see a price of $8xx and see no option on signing up for a 2 year contract. Do you think the system just isnt working right at the moment or am I missing something?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] WatermelonSlim:
The running theory is that AT&T changed the price on that website because they don't want anyone purchasing it yet. The few people who purchased before at the $350 price got emails saying it was out of stock.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] iceman4357:
guess we will find out in 45 minutes, or tomorrow morning.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Jola66:
Oh. That is weird though. Why not just take it down from the site? Why wouldnt they want someone to purchase yet? ATT is strange soemtimes
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ZzFDKzZ:
Yeah I got an email on the 7th saying it was on back order.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Kvothe:
Does anyone know for sure/ have an official link/ etc about the Tilt 2 being $499 (non-commitment) for "ordinary" individuals?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] noggind614:
i went back to the page and it's still showing up as $499.99 no commitment. maybe they fixed it or i'm just lucky. giving everyone a heads up. well since i've ordered mine i'm off to bed. best of luck to you all
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] WatermelonSlim:
Nothing official yet. I've been looking for an official no commit price since this was first announced. There is 2 year contract pricing all over the place but AT&T never put a no commit price on any of the press releases or leaked info.

Before it was officially announced though, when pictures and documents were being leaked, everyone was reporting the no commit price would be $500. I don't know how accurate that is though.

T-Mobile's Touch Pro 2 is $550 with no contract though, so we can be pretty sure it will be around that same price.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] d0ugie:
money

Just for clarification, does an "upgrade" discount tend to equal the discount of buying a two year contract with the phone? And if so, if you do upgrade, are you recommitting to a fresh two year contract regardless of your standing before? And what's AT&T's early termination fee, is the buyers' remorse period 30 days, and does someone have a decent shot at getting out of a contract simply by living in Manhattan where you only get decent data at this time of night?

And are there no other GSM versions of the TP2 for any other carrier that has the same band lineup as AT&T's?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] drpal181:
So as of 11pmMt/ 9pm est, anyone got a tilt 2 early?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] :
No-Commitment:

Xx XX, CA 9xxxx | xxxx-xxx-xxxx

One-time	Monthly

Phone/Device:	PRELAUNCH HTC Tilt(TM) 2

Change

$499.99

Accessories:	Add Accessories

Summary

Total One-Time Charges*:

$499.99

Total Monthly Charges**:

$0.00

Damn, now I dunno what to do : pull the trigger? Or will AT&T drop the price in a few days like Tmobile & Sprint? Damn!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gramsey1911:
new info

I just tried to order tilt 2 and it says my wireless is temp closed...I think the techies are getting it ready for us..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Kvothe:
re: money and upgrade

I was just at an at&t store the other day where I bought a Pure (TD2), because I couldn't wait and I actually thought it might be good enough to tide me over until next year's HD2 release and so on. The no commitment price for that phone is $349.99. I asked about an early upgrade and the man said it would be $225 (my free upgrade time doesn't roll around till next August). I thought about it, but since it wasn't that great of a deal I decided to just outright buy the Pure. He did however let me in on a couple of tips. He said if your monthly bill for one line (this is just one line regardless of whether it is bundled in a Family plan) is over $100 (meaning you insanely buy everything they offer like unlimited txting, roadside massages, and paid navigation), then you get a free upgrade every year. If you spend less, it is every 18-24 months.

Also you can only do one "early" upgrade every two years. Thus, I bet given the price of the Pure, an early upgrade to the Tilt might be in the ballpark of $375. However this does require a whole two year contract renewal. Interesting too was that there was no need to do a mail in rebate for the upgrade.

Personally, though the Pure was ok, just ok (nice screen and all but it's not a tilt 2), when I flashed some new roms on it, the smaller battery just couldn't handle manila 2.5 with any acceptable level of endurance. So I'm going to be flashing back and returning it. I also found that by explaining my situation to a rep, that the battery was rather terrible (and it seriously lacked even on the oem rom), I was able to get set up with a full refund and no restocking fee if I send it back within 30 days which is the buyer's remorse period. (The early termination fee starts at $175 and goes down $5 a month.)

I really have to use at&t because it's the only 3g network in my area. So I hope this new Tilt is good. (I've had the Kaiser and I love it.) The lack of a 3.5mm is a pisser as is the keyboard screw, still I hope this will tide me over until at&t comes around with Leo or...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] KevinACrider:
I'm pretty sure they close it down every night. I seem to remember many many times in the past trying to log in after work (late at night) and being given this message.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] KevinACrider:
The upgrade every year if your bill is over $100 and the 30-day no questions asked money back return period have both been around for at least 2 years. I've used both on a few different occasions. Then again, my bill is over $300/month, they tend to let things happen.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] :
So what happens to the original plan/contract once this device upgrade happens? I'm around a year into a 2 year iPhone 3G contract.. Can I use both the phones on the network or will AT&T not let me use the iPhone any more?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] KB41786:
No such luck for me, either. I just read the entire thread and have a premier account, but I cannot even see the tilt 2 as an available device. The site did give me problems too, but I finally got in and the Fuze and Pure are the only HTC devices listed. I will call my Premier rep today and post if I find out anything.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Kvothe:
Maybe I should be asking for more upgrades...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Kvothe:
motoq9h,

Just swap the sim cards back and forth, I've never had any trouble with it, but then again I've never had an iphone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] KevinACrider:
I just logged in to my Premier account and the Tilt 2 is not even listed.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] :
Thanks Kvothe..

I'm thinking of opening a feature phone line on my account with Media Net Data plan to use with the Tilt. That way, I can go back to the old number/iphone..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] :
I had the exact same problem. Use the OP's original link and some creativity :) to access the Tilt2.. You will see it pop up for an upgrade price of $499/no commit..

Anyway, I expect my order to get cancelled tomorrow :

"Unable to verify credit card number. Please call 1-866-499-8008 Monday – Friday 8:00 A.M. to 8:00 P.M. EST and Saturday 11:00 A.M. to 8:00 P.M. EST.*"
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Kvothe:
Yeah, the link on page 14 of the thread is kaput. Att could have 500 of my credit card dollars tonight, if they get their act together.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Kvothe:
I guess I lack creativity or the right link...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] carxdadevelopers:
Is the battery capacity on AT&T Pure 1350 mah as shown in http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1912&view=1&c=at_t_pure___warhawk_htc_topaz_210

Will Pure battery fit the HTC Diamond2 which has a battery capacity of 1100 mah?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] HTC Touch Freak:
It's 1100mah. Confirmed by an unboxing from phonedog.com
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] carxdadevelopers:
HTC Touch Freak, thank you for the reply so that was a mistake in the data of http://pdadb.net :eek:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] moegdaog:
delete thread*
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] dvd107:
My 838pro is currenty stuffed with white screen. How do I hardresert with the computer?

Will flashing a new rom hard reset and delete all my messages?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] ultramag69:
If you have Whitescreen, how will you know if it worked?

You may as well push in the 2 softkeys above the answer and hangup keys and reset with stylus. Push "R" on keyboard then Space bar on keyboard, watch the LEDs... It should go out then turn on again if successful.

This won't fix the whitescreen but will wipe it back to factory if you want to sell for parts...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Eurypterus:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009...g-htc-tilt-2-starting-october-8th/#more-36058

If you take a look at the first picture UMTS frequency is stated as 850/1900/2100MHz for the tilt2 So all it's missing is 800 for some part of japan or asia i think. And maybe 900 for some part of Australia? Though I've never heard of a 5 or 6 band phone before.

I guess this means its US(att), euro, asia 3g compatible.

Anyone got thoughts or clarifications?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] iceman4357:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_frequency_bands

If I am thinking correctly, it should cover almost all world bands. I think the 700 mhz range is outdated or in very limited areas.
[Wing, P4350 General] 1shot2:
Hello,this is my 1st post,so HI!

Anyways I just got a Tmobile wing hera110 at a yardsale for like 15$,I was soo happy till I put my at&t sim card in and it is asking me for a code,and after 3 days searching online,i have tried calling tmobile 2 diff times but since I am not a tmobile customer they wont help me.They suggested I call HTC so I did and they said that they where in contract with tmobile and can't/ won't provide the code to me.so they suck

also I don't know anyone who has a Tmobile account who could help me with this,if I did then I'd be set already.

So my only option left is to buy a code somewhere online,my question is,does anyone know a cheap,safe place where I can pay to unlock this phone?Again its a Tmobile HERA110 aka wing,I know that not all online phone unlocking sites are legit,I am just trying to find one that is not that expensive,preferably 19-20$,and not a scam.

Thanks,1shot2
[Wing, P4350 General] erecpr:
i have unlocked one just now with a code from gsmliberty for $29. It unlocked the phone, but i tried with a simcard from ATT, it gets signal, recieve calls, but it dont make calls, then i tried with a claro simcard, and it wont get signal. The tmobile simcard works just good.
[Dash 3G, Snap ROM Development] d8tahead:
Hello *********************,

I can understand how important it is to know if you will have a Windows Mobile 6.5 update available for your Ozone on October 6, 2009. I will be more than happy to assist you with the information that you are requesting. Unfortunately, there will not be a Windows Mobile 6.5 upgrade for the Ozone on October 6, 2009. Currently, I have no information indicating that Verizon has requested a ROM update be made for the Ozone. If Verizon requests that HTC make a ROM upgrade for the Ozone, HTC will begin developing a Windows Mobile 6.5 upgrade. Verizon will work in cooperation with us to develop the ROM upgrade for the Ozone. This process can take a couple of weeks to several months.

Thank you so much for contacting HTC. If you have any other questions, feel free to contact us again. You can find additional support at our user forum www.htcwiki.com. There is also a customer satisfaction survey for you to take if you are interested.

Steve

HTC Tech Support

http://www.htc.com
[Dash 3G, Snap ROM Development] mikehun:
Microsoft is showing that it will

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/meet/wm65-upgrade.mspx
[Dash 3G, Snap ROM Development] d8tahead:
well i dont know which to believe, that letter was a response from HTC's support to my question asking if it would be available for the ozone.
[Dash 3G, Snap ROM Development] mikehun:
In the end its up to Verizon

If we break it down Microsoft and HTC are saying it is completely possible to do a 6.5 upgrade but it'll be up to Verizon to make it happen.
[Dash 3G, Snap ROM Development] htc_Tomi:
Read this PC magazine article. I guess WM 6.5 will not come to the Ozone until "early november".

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2353789,00.asp

-Tomi
[Dash 3G, Snap ROM Development] Black_V!per:
I had actually got the same reply from my inside HTC Guy a month or so back:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4347515&postcount=9

I still don't feel that the Sprint Snap will be getting an offical upgrade, but if Microsoft says so... haha i don't trust them anymore than i can toss my own mother.
[Dash 3G, Snap ROM Development] htc_Tomi:
well, I guess there are prerelease ozone roms floating out there that Verizon is making, but thus far nobody was willing to share them - considering that Verizon could fire the person. I hope that somehow one will be leaked either on torrents or something, as my ozone has been bricked for a month now and the USB port on my q9m just broke. So I have no way of charging it :(
[Dash 3G, Snap ROM Development] brent372:
I work for VZW.

There WILL be an official 6.5 ROM for it.

There is a very buggy pre-realease available internally now.

I have used it (no - I can't send it to you - don't ask) and switched back to 6.1

That is how buggy it was.

No ETA on a new build.

I check my internal sources everyday for updates.

Just as frustrated as all of you.
[Dash 3G, Snap ROM Development] d8tahead:
well i appreciate the information, atleast we know us ozone users will be getting the well deserved update :)

thanks brent
[Dash 3G, Snap ROM Development] drewcam888:
Anyway you can provide the stock flashable 6.1 rom for the ozone?
[Dash 3G, Snap ROM Development] Otlichno:
Brent,

Can you tell VZW not to put so much crapware in their ROMs?
[Dash 3G, Snap ROM Development] touche112:
I second that motion. ;)
[Dash 3G, Snap ROM Development] MonkeyHouse98:
Thanks for the heads up. I look forward to the new rom.

I'm happy Verizon is willing to update the pre-6.5 released phones at all.

Be well Brent.
[Dash 3G, Snap ROM Development] oconnell84:
Can anyone verify this HTC Captain aka snap, maple, ozone rom?

RUU_Captain_S_HTC_WWE_2.03.405.2

http://htcpedia.com/ruu_captain_s_htc_wwe_wm65/soft/snap-rom.html?page=1
[Dash 3G, Snap ROM Development] udK:
I think Ozone users are looking for this: RUU_Chief_W_WM65_VZW_WWE_2.16.605.15, that's the official WM6.5 upgrade for the Ozone, I will upload it.

edit: http://rapidshare.com/files/3253201...05.15_RS_612522_1.71.08WV_1.94_58005_Ship.exe
[Dash 3G, Snap ROM Development] ookba:
happen to have the RUU_Commander for the Sprint SNAP S511?