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[G1 Android Development] PsychoI3oy:
The problem isn't that people are using wiping as a troubleshooting step; the problem is that people are recommending wiping before every upgrade. Wiping as a step in troubleshooting is, like you said, necessary sometimes and certainly easier than looking deeper into the problem. Wiping as a step in installation is just silly, however. Most upgrades should go smoothly without issues. The occasional fix_permissions run or specific app data/cache clearing might be necessary on some upgrades, but prophylactic wiping just seems wasteful.

What you're saying is you don't reformat the entire system and delete all user data and settings before upgrading!?!??!? Shocking. Imagine people on a support board recommending deleting /etc and /home for every Ubuntu upgrade. They'd be laughed at, at best. And yes, while I haven't (technically) wiped since CM 3.6.4, I have on several occasions done the nandroid/wipe/restore test to troubleshoot. Once again, my problem isn't with wiping as a concept or a tool for troubleshooting; my problem is with the people suggesting wiping every upgrade or at the first sign of otherwise easily fixable problems. Users may not be willing to troubleshoot the problem themselves, but telling them to wipe puts them in the same mentality, spreading the misinformation.

I'd say the level of effort required should be left up to the person with the problem. Some may be happy to wipe data and settings, most probably aren't.

To sum up (using the generic 'you' of the community at large):

Wipe before every upgrade is not best practice nor recommended.

Wiping to fix problems tends to work, but I think it should be a last resort.

Telling users to wipe when you don't know any other solution is counterproductive to finding solutions. If you don't know how to fix a problem, don't post. There's plenty of people here that have fixed and help fix problems, and spreading those solutions is better for the community than spreading the wiping mentality.
[G1 Android Development] ice_mouton:
Hy guys so I'm new to the G1 I got mine yesterday, put 4.2.14.1 on it, happy camper and all that.. until I realized that the rom doesn't have htc sync.

So i googled/searched the forum and so far I figure it's because PCSCII.apk is missing from the rom, I tried putting it in system/app but then I had a force close error on psclient or someting so I removed it. Anyone here knows how to sucessfully restore htc sync on this rom.. they even have 2.0.18 out that supports win7/x64 without workarounds such as installing the vista driver, so I would really like my new phone to have CONTACTS in it :P kinda pointless without them...
[G1 Android Development] bunu:
MMMM. He said he was kidding about the getting the iFail. But He didn't say anything about stopping cyanogen mod.

He said he left his Nexus One on the table and while he was talking a leak, his "friend" stole it.

I noticed he was tweeting from twidroid and I replied to him about it but like 20 people tweeted back saying he was using his wife's MT3G.

Is this a big joke? I hope so.

I'm pretty sure that if you sign it with your gmail, google saves you contacts and if you have to wipe for some reason, it syncs with google and gets your contacts and contact pictures back.
[G1 Android Development] _zygo_:
Arrrrgghhh!! I SO got that wrong. I obviously misunderstood your original point. (I thought you were dismissing wiping as a troubleshooting step!) Sorry about that PsychoBoy.
[G1 Android Development] BoomBoomPOW:
Thanks works like a charm. But what I did was different. I did a full re-install, I didn't care much for current data, apps, etc.

1.) Wipe all

2.) Partition SD - Fat32/Swap

3.) Flash base and latest CM

4.) Terminal - swapon /dev/block/mmcblk0p2

5.) Edited userinit and user.conf script to mmcblk0p2

6.) Pushed userinit and user.conf
[G1 Android Development] neok44:
does anyone know of ANY metamorphs for 4.2.14.1. I can't find any and i don't want a flashed theme.
[G1 Android Development] tnpapadakos:
ask cloverdale

better yet, go here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=468254
[G1 Android Development] justin_blair:
Sleep issues..

Loving 4.2.14.1, but I have an issue I need a bit of help with the Alarm. It sets and wakes me up on time but when the alarm is going off it does not bring the phone out of sleep. The result is I'm alarmed, dazed and trying to stop this noise. I have to hit the menu button twice before I can dismiss the alarm. I have checked the box and unchecked the box and it doesn't seam to make a difference. Also the side buttons don't work to cancel the alarm, doesn't matter if it is turned on or off. Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks!
[G1 Android Development] scootley:
There is a known issue for this:

http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/detail?id=967

I see you found it
[G1 Android Development] tony_m78:
Lags...

I find this rom AMAZING, there's just a thing I can't solve... it seems to be slowed then the previous ones... in the past I solved this problem by flashing the rom again and again and again... but not this time. I just have little pauses before application open and switch... :-(
[G1 Android Development] cgingermany:
email not autoconfiguring

Thank you! Its running as smooth as it is supposed to.
[G1 Android Development] cgingermany:
email

Thank you! Lol, I clicked on save trust me lol
[G1 Android Development] ShermCraig:
Revert BACK to CyanogenMod (FKA Back to the Future)?

Hi all. I've dipped my toe in now and tried various custom ROMS. My most recent few have caused slowness, random resets and crashes. After feeling quite a bit of frustration over missed calls, vanishing SMS's and random wipes, I wanted to go back to CM ROMS for my MyTouch 3G. I thought I could simply reformat my SD card, or wipe the partitions, none of which has worked. I would simply be stuck on the Green MyTouch3G screen forever. Luckily, I was able to restore my last custom ROM however the associated problems (mentioned above) returned. I guess my goal here is to use CM's most recent ROM however I cannot seem to flash it successfully. Can someone PLEASE provide some direction as to how I can go from my currently rooted custom ROM to CM? Do I have to return the phone to factory settings first? I wouldn't think so, but I'm just knowledgeable enough to be dangerous, so please advise, and many thanks!

Craig
[G1 Android Development] PsychoI3oy:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Upgrading_From_Older_CyanogenMod_or_other_rooted_ROMs

I suspect you forgot the DRC83 base flashing step.

wipe may or may not be needed, but those instructions should at least get you past the mt3g splash.
[G1 Android Development] ShermCraig:
Thanks for your help!! I'll report back....
[G1 Android Development] ShermCraig:
CM 2.x coming for Magic/Dream?

Does anyone know if Cyanogen is going to be doing an 2.x ROM for Dream/Magic? I know he's a Nexus One user now....
[G1 Android Development] neok44:
he keeps saying he will. most likely he's waiting for the video drivers so he can make a complete rom. In order to get those drivers we have to wait until the Mytouch/G1 actually get the 2.1 update
[G1 Android Development] lotherius:
Glad to see that he's not jumping the MT/G1 to 2.1 *without* those drivers... unfortunately, if they're not released, 2.1 is worthless to the G1, unless you plan on never recording ANY video and never watching ANY video on your phone... Myself, h.264 support is highly important as I do convert video to watch on-device. And, I use bluetooth and wifi.... so all these Hero/Eclair, etc Roms are pretty much academic.
[G1 Android Development] tanman1975:
blacklist!

I accidently added someone to blacklist and don't know how to get her off of it. :( Can anyone help?
[G1 Android Development] PsychoI3oy:
settings->Call settings-> black list (at bottom); tap number, select OK to remove from list.
[G1 Android Development] DaUub:
Quick question . Is the 4.2.14.1 worth the upgrade i am running 4.2.13.1 and it has been FLAWLESS will i run into problems with this new rom
[G1 Android Development] ZilverZurfarn:
Read the change log (first page, second post), to find if there's something that tickles your curiuosity. If not, I see no real reason to upgrade, if everything is running smooth. "If it's not broken - Don't fix it."

/Mats
[G1 Android Development] newsong:
It's not working for me. I even wiped.
[G1 Android Development] zim2dive:
N00b (to Android) questions

You can see by my post-count that I'm not new to XDA, but I am new to Android... and this is my 1st post in the G1 section... I've been reading the wiki, reading various posts, and trying to come up to speed on what it takes to play with new ROMs in the Android world (coming from the 8125/8525/8925 WinMo world)

Picked up a G1 from craigslist (never used from what I can tell), and its got the 1.6 stock firmware at this point.

At this point, my possible tasks appear to be

- root the phone

- flash radio (altho it appears to already have 2.22.19.26I)

- flash an SPL

- flash a recovery image

- flash a ROM

I'm happy to take this in slow/baby steps and will happily skip steps if they are not needed (ie. it appears I do need to root in order to run ALL alternate ROMs... but it appears that some ROMs (eg. Cyanogen) do not require an SPL update?

I was going to try either Cyanogen or Super D 1.8... and don't know enough to know whether either has a distinct functional advantage vs. the other, only that I'm finding more (and more thorough) docs on the Cyanogen process, so I'm going for the safer process as my 1st step.

Questions:

a) I assume the Full Update Guide wiki is still current? http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_G1/Dream_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod

b) _IF_ I got cold feet (very) early on, would I be able to install RC29, give up, and the phone would just re-update itself back to 1.6 stock?

c) when I boot into bootloader mode with a stock ROM (power+camera)... how do you exit? (can't find this documented in the wiki or elsewhere)... actually I may?? have found this in the SPL install instructions?

can someone confirm, if so I will add to the Wiki (wasn't sure if that sequence was valid for a stock ROM)

d) in step 9 of the Update guide

is this b/c RC29 includes an old radio? (ie. I have the new radio with my stock 1.6, so unless it gets removed during the "update guide" steps, I wasn't clear why I'd need to flash it on top of itself.

e) (general G1 question) I don't see 40 radios to pick from (like there were on the Kaiser wiki).. not complaining, just trying to understand the difference?

f) as mentioned at the top, it appears I can do the Cyanogen install without flashing SPL.... do I want a new SPL? :) .. ie. does it just make it easier to flash other ROMs, or does it offer any performance/battery improvements, or better recovery options?

Thanks for any info!
[G1 Android Development] ShermCraig:
Interestingly enough, I sometimes will receive the vibration alert, the SMS will scroll across the notification bar, but the message does NOT appear in my messaging app - it simply vanishes! I wish I could determine what causes this behavior.
[G1 Android Development] PsychoI3oy:
a) as current as can be, last edited.... a couple days ago with something I reverted (someone couldn't find telnet and edited that it'd disappeared off the market; it's still there and so is connectbot which does telnet as well as ssh and is a better terminal than the 'terminal emulator')

b) waiting for the OTAs would take a while (I believe they'd come incrimentally) but yes, it should work. Flashing rc29 and OTAing is also how to 'un root'.

c) call+menu+power should work on stock SPL/bootloader

d) yes, the rc29 downgrade flashes every part of your phone except the spl/bootloader, including the 1.x radio

e) for G1 there are only two so far, the 1.x radio for android 1.0 and 1.1 and the 2.x radio for 1.5(cupcake) and 1.6(donut). 3.x radios are for 32A magics and Rogers Dreams and 4.x radios are for the N1. Don't try anything but the 2.x radio linked from the wiki.

f) you don't /need/ to flash any SPL for CM, but the 'hard' spl linked at the bottom of the wiki does allow you to fastboot flash stuff, which is handy in a pinch but probably not needed normally. Some other roms require the 'danger' spl which rearranges your partition table but can brick the phone if you downgrade the radio (including flashing rc29 to 'un root' later) and is NOT needed or recommended for CM.

If you want extra hand-holding through the wiki, feel free to join #cyanogenmod on irc.freenode.net (or through the webchat on cyanogenmod.com); you'll have to register with freenode to talk, but there's instructions in the topic for that.
[G1 Android Development] _zygo_:
That's very valuable input, newsong. With all of the details you provided, I'm sure many will consider your experience when deciding on whether to upgrade or not.

Consider making future posts worth the time to read. For instance, before dismissing the ROM as a failure for you, tell us exactly what isn't working for you, provide the procedures you followed for upgrading or installing, your phone, carrier, and what your phone's current status is (back to stock, back to a Hero ROM, SuperD, Dwang...,) etc. Perhaps someone here can help you with your problems.

To DaUub, newsong's experience isn't typical and shouldn't be used as a basis for a decision to upgrade. Like others have posted, .14 runs great. It includes Wysie's Contacts app, which required a manual push in .13, the eclair Clock app, and other bug fixes. In retrospect, I wouldn't have flashed .14 because I liked the old Alarm app, but I am OK with the new Clock app. Both versions seem very fast and stable, but I haven't run any official benchmarks.

I hope this helps.
[G1 Android Development] xjjjay:
Anybody else getting the music automatically playing issue that was common back in .12(?) It's much less frequent, but since .14 came out I probably had it happen maybe twice.
[G1 Android Development] agentaaron:
I have noticed this as well...my one minor anoyance with this rom. My solution was to delete all of my music and never touch the music app.

...I use pandora 90% of the time, plus I have my netbook with me 99% of the time where I have 30gigs of music to pick from.
[G1 Android Development] stevedealy:
Bad Auto-Music

Does Anyone have a better solution to the phantom music playing from the stock app. This seems to happen when I get in the car and the Ford/MS Sync recognizes the g1 bluetooth. Can the stock music player be disabled/removed?

Thanks

=====

g1

latest Cyanogen
[G1 Android Development] zim2dive:
99.999% not the issue.. on a totally different OS, I used to get random music.. when I sync'd my appt across, there was no (or a bad) pointer to the reminder sound.. and instead the calendar somehow took that bad index and picked some song out of my music lib.

Took me forever to figure it out, and even then a pain to stop (filed a bug report, not sure it ever got fixed)

Seems incredibly unlikely, but thought I'd throw it out.
[G1 Android Development] zim2dive:
@PsychoI3oy.. many thanks for the informative answers. Going to try this tomorrow (I hope).
[G1 Android Development] tekkitan:
Usually when it starts playing music randomly (for me at least), it will actually start the music app and start playing music. I don't think it is similar to what you have described. I noticed it mostly happened to me with other music apps (like Pandora or Free.fm). When I would start music on said app, then music would also start in the background and I'd be hearing two songs at once.
[G1 Android Development] bryant_16:
Hi there, I have the same problem with you. I don't know where the problem lies too.
[G1 Android Development] d3vilskid:
anyone having problems with the call and home button not functioning?
[G1 Android Development] pityr:
So far so good. With the latest few ROMs it seems to be imperative to run the 10MB hack otherwise the device is painfully slow. With the hack its pretty smooth.

I ran into an issue that I started noticing in 4.2.13. Sometimes the BT just craps out. I have a BT stereo headset and sometimes while playing music it will just stop playing but the song will continue on the device. No audio but the tracking bar moves and songs change. Happens in both the music app and other streaming apps like Pandora. I can't turn off BT when this happens and the only way to restore functionality is to reboot the phone. I did that 3 times today. Sometimes I don't have to reboot for days.

I can't say if I had this problem in earlier versions since the headset is fairly new.
[G1 Android Development] TeeJay3800:
I wish I could too. It happens very frequently for me. :(
[G1 Android Development] houseonfire:
This text message issue is a major issue. I'm posting, frankly, because I'm pissed off.

I know all your develpment holdback issues, time, a life, BLA. But I missed some EXTREMELY important information from a very good friend of mine because I'm not getting more than half of my text messages.

I know it's not a chink in your armor that your losing one customer to some other random ROM...but oh well. I hope other people read this.
[G1 Android Development] aceo07:
How much are you paying him to be his customer? :eek:

It's just one of the risks when using cooked ROMs.
[G1 Android Development] kidblue:
+1 on the Gallery. It's almost there, and disabling the zoom controls might even make up for a bit of the fidgety nature of it.
[G1 Android Development] kcdjedi:
Never, not even once, has this happened to me in all my time with Cyanogen, which is nearly a year now. Must be something you have going on on yours. :/
[G1 Android Development] nk02:
780mhz max kernel:

removed

now, install setcpu and push setcpu.txt in sdcard (or in system without .txt): http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MDLB0OVH. Open setcpu and select "custom frequency config"
[G1 Android Development] axlastro:
+1 BT is not working all the time

It happens when receiving calls too...
[G1 Android Development] DOHCtor:
I flashed it and it still get the same results. It still shows 527.15 as max
[G1 Android Development] orangeee:
I think this might be my problem. Firstly I can't get Cyanogen 1.4 Recovery image to work, it never creates the backup, it just always says "backup failed" so I can't do that. I'm presuming that when it installs 1.6 it installs the radio as well, since I cannot just reboot after the first part installs. I'm gonna try a few things and see if they work. Thank you.
[G1 Android Development] DOHCtor:
If your Hard or Engineering SPL, just boot into Hboot (camera+power) and fastboot the recovery image to your phone.
[G1 Android Development] skesseks:
This has happened to me twice in 48 hours. Has anyone tried to connect adb and get a lolcat?
[G1 Android Development] orangeee:
I'm not sure I'm familiar with this, every time I try to reboot after flashing 1.6, it immediately goes into writing the radio image...
[G1 Android Development] lindros355:
I apologize in advance for posting here but I don't know where else to go for help.

I am using an HTC Magic in Japan (HT-03a) and was able to flash the HTC_ADP_1.6_DRC83_rooted_base as well as 4.1.999 then rebooted, I followed the instructions on this Japanese site: http://komugi.net/archives/2009/10/200910052137.php#extended to put in the APN settings etc but the problem I am having is:

I am able to go on the browser, download things through Slide-me etc but was not able to sign into my google accounts for about 45 minutes by continuously clicking "Try Again" Now that I have signed in though, when I go to the market to download anything it instantly tells me that the download failed, and my gmail is not syncing like it should.

Yes, I did a wipe, and yes I did fix_permissions (though I couldn't do this in the recovery due to the keyboard, I had to do it through the terminal app as soon as it booted after the flash)

Any help would be much appreciated! Thanks in advance. :)
[G1 Android Development] de-v8:
I've an HTC MAGic running Cyanogen 4.1.11 and finding it great with no problems - what benefits are there in updating again?
[G1 Android Development] elzee:
4.1.99 & now .999 is the newest experimental rom supplied by Cyanogen.

It's also his latest work that is open-source and free of non-open-sourced, google licensed algorithms.

This clears Cyanogen from further C&D issues with google and allows us all to continue enjoying the advances in his experimental roms.

Next question?

PS: it's as fast as what your using now :)
[G1 Android Development] de-v8:
The question was "what benefits are there in updating again?"

I have a rom that is perfectly stable already.
[G1 Android Development] michu2510:
I got problem with auto rotation in home screen then I rotate phone I get error " process acore has stop". I tried with gChrome and build in theme I attach logs from log cat(to open change form zip to txt I have to change it because forum limit is 19.5kb and this file got 70kb
[G1 Android Development] :
De-v8,

Same benefit as when you update from one xperimental built to another: very little in practice but huge in xperimental/beta testing minds. !!

You can always stop and use what you have. It is those stable versions that have a huge difference from the previous ones. Or you can play along with every experimental rom, post you comments here, contribute for a next, better rom

This new update is very small for the user but huge for the rom structure (google legal). Keep what makes you happy - update to the next stable rom.

Geeeee! I managed to say the same thing 3 times!! And all with the build in keyboard of my Dream..8)
[G1 Android Development] Vallynn:
MyTouch3G Blank Screen Solved (for me, at least)

I apologize if this problem has already been answered. I didn't have the patience to go through all 120 pages of this thread.

I noticed a lot of MyTouch users were experiencing a blank screen after the Android boot screen. That happened to me, too. Finally, I tried wiping *after* applying both the HTC image and the new ROM (even though I had wiped before), and then it booted with no problems.

Hope this helps someone!
[G1 Android Development] :
Hey guys, I've got a question about the new (type of) ROM:

Is there a way to use it as a "google-free" Android at this time? (e.g. without Google apps or nagging screens about creating an account) I'm really into the idea of an open source handheld system, and would like to see this mod grow completely independant of Google soon, but as far as I know cyanogen had to remove more than just the Google apps, so I'm not quite sure if this could work.

Thanks for your help!
[G1 Android Development] sourcesociety:
This has disaster written all over it. I have no reason to flash from CM 4.0.4 right now. It's solid and the speed is fine. I'll come back when 4.x.x is more stable.
[G1 Android Development] Maneby:
Market still not working

I'm quite sure I followed the instructions correctly. I can't clear the cache of Market app, it just shows there is no saved cache :/

Should I just try and wipe again and reinstall the build?

- Maneby
[G1 Android Development] eami:
The same for me :( I experience this battery issue since BFS implemented.
[G1 Android Development] elzee:
You ingrate! Go build one better! The only disasters are dickheads like you making broad generalisations about an experimental build without checking the facts! Go away fool!

Sorry mods .. moronic statements like this boil my blood!!
[G1 Android Development] sourcesociety:
Whoa there, no need for insults. I didn't mean for my comment to be offensive. It seems that the negatives outweigh the positives if I were to switch to this experimental build. Many of the issues people are complaining about appear to be inconvenient, and I simply would rather wait for Cyanogen to brew up a more trouble-free release.

A potential disaster for me, maybe not the majority of brave Android handset owners.