yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] apeck09:
I can confirm that. I just got my phone unlocked yesterday and got a pre-paid AT&T SIM and everything works fine, 3G is not supported in the US. I tested voice, text, and data all worked fine.

There was one thing that I finally figured out, make sure that your Bands are set to Auto. It took me like an hour to figure out why it was not registering on the network (even the lady at AT&T could not figure it out).

Also make sure you set up the line for data.

(for AT&T)

Access point name: WAP.CINGULAR

User name: WAP@CINGULAR.COM

Password: CINGULAR1
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] AstarteSV:
good to know info, should probably be stickied somewhere.:)
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Fulton Cook:
FM Radio

I researched the FM radio and found that the FM radio is built into the BlueTooth module. But Sprint chose a 'better' BlueTooth chip that does NOT have the FM radio. I think this info came from the guy who reviews new phones in uTube.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] isdnmatt:
I think you didn't cite most of the sources that covered the SIM unlocks.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] apeck09:
Was that directed toward me?
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] mike-white-24:
The TV out works on my Telus RHOD500 phone. I bought the cable off of ebay.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] SRapr:
On the box from VZW, there is an MEID and a SIM ID.

Under the battery, there is just the phone S/N and MEID in both hex and decimal.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] a in yul:
Q6. Is there a SIM Unlock tool (or any other kind of paid service / hack) available to make this phone compatible with the US GSM service providers?

1.

2.

3.Telus does not give out unlock codes; but paid services as per ebay links do exist and do work.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] xlinkx:
Sim unlock code for sprint touch pro 2. Have anyone tried this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/UNLOCK-CODE-FOR...emQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4a9b395498
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] LITANG:
嗯！

:confused: It's gsm and cnma network？nice，but no money pay for too price！:eek:
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] ikugan:
Yeah I tried this guy bit it was for the Verizon TP2. NIce guy, but he wasn't able to get a code for my phone, but he refunded right away. It wouldn't hurt to try him out to see if he can provide you with a code for your Sprint version. Just tell him Edwin with the Verizon TP2 referred you. I've been bugging him constantly to see if the databases have been updated.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Major_Nate:
Any idea as to if this will actually work? I would be willing to try it.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] xlinkx:
I would give it a try if i have a sprint touch pro 2. They would refund your money if the code is not available. Please let me know if it works for you, I'm looking to buy a sprint touch pro 2.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Major_Nate:
Perhaps I shall. I have my TP2 on me, but I am kind of worried about it not working afterwards...oh well, i work at a repair store anyways. lol. here goes nothing!
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] ikugan:
Let us know if it works for you. The guy is very helpful. Also, another place called Visionmobile.ca is advertising they can unlock the Sprint version. Man, maybe I should have gotten a Sprint as well. At any rate, good luck guys..
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] themuffinman:
Listen, the whole sim unlock thing will not work on the sprint version because it is in fact already sim unlocked. Its just that at this moment there is no way for the sprint version of the tp2 to work with other US-GSM providers. This could be hardware based or software based but at this point I don't think anyone knows. The telus version and the verizon version of the phone is different, once you actually get a sim unlock code it will work for any gsm provider, but this is not the case with sprint.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] xlinkx:
Enter the code accurately as possible. From what I read, punching in the wrong code more than 3 times will lock it permanently. If this does not work then hopefully a custom ROM will simunlock it, because it's already sim unlock to use in other country. I think it could just be the sprint's rom blocking US carriers.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] racolon:
Useless.....

Once you send payment you get an email back stating:

"Hi, thank you for your purchase, HTC SPRINT TOUCH PRO Phones are already SIM UNLOCKED but they cant be use in the UNITED STATES, you can use these phones outside UNITED STATES, BUT VERIZON TOUCH PRO 2 DOes work here and outside united states. lot of ppl are confused about this, my listing is just to inform them. I can provide you with the code but when you try to enter the code it will say sim already unlocked, you will waste your money like that. We will process the refund for you.thankyou for your interest, if you have any questions please email or call us at 832-606-3563."

Payment was refunded right away.!!!
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] tmushy:
Uggh i thought the phone was already unlocked for outside of the united states
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] jfizz88:
the sprint tp2 IS unlocked for outside US gsm already, jus not state site gsm networks
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Ludacrisvp:
On my SIM unlocked Verizon TP2 under GSM Band Selection you can manually choose from the following in the drop down menus.

If you change the mode to GSM/UMTS only from Global mode or from CDMA mode you will see this under GSM/UMTS settings.

Network Type:
Auto
GSM
WCDMA

Select your GSM/UMTS Band:
Auto
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100+900)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100)

So that would say that it has

GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 and

UMTS 850, 900, 1900, 2100

Leading me to believe it was an omission on their part.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] leepriestenator:
This just keeps getting curiouser and curiouser.

The official specs say UMTS 2100 which kinda obviously means that is also supports UMTS 900, but

UMTS 1900 / 850.... now that is new.

What the hell is going on? is it so difficult for them to release a proper spec sheet with EVERYTHING in it?

I'm assuming that the option you have might be a more generalistc option that somebody at HTC might have forgotten to remove (in this case the UMTS 1900 / 850)

I haven't heard of UMTS Quad-Band... not yet anyway.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Ludacrisvp:
If anyone wanted to see the options from inside the phone here are two pics of the band selections.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] nickel911:
What about unlocking a verizon tp2 onto sprint since they are charging 449 - 100mir (still tax on 449) vs verizons 199
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] No1ustad:
not going to happen w/o breaking laws.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] TurboX2:
so can anybody be sure if the UTMS antennas both exist?

and if you SIM unlock it that should mean it would work with a 3G att??

I would buy the phone if i could do all this.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Ludacrisvp:
I have SIM unlocked my TP2 but I don't know anyone that has an ATT 3G labeled SIM card that I could borrow to see if it connects with 3G or not.

I only know of 1 person that has ATT that would let me borrow the SIM card and its a plain white card with nothing written on it. I used it in my Storm and i was able to call and SMS but only used it for a min to see if it connected to the network.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] lbjohnny:
subscribed
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] dshosu:
according to this site both the RHOD500 (Verizon and Telus) and the RHOD400 (Sprint/USCC) can receive GSM850, 900, 1800, 1900 signals

http://www.nuerom.com/nueWiki/Rhodium_W US GSM Lockout research.ashx

the same site then contradicts itself (wiki)

http://www.nuerom.com/nueWiki/Rhodium_W rtask b data.ashx?HL=rhodium
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] citats:
This is actually not a contradiction. My Telus TP2 can indeed see gsm carries, however it can not connect due to restrictions in the radio. If my provider has roaming agreements in place with carries outside of Canada I can connect. Also note that in the case of Telus they them selves will be launching their own gsm network on Nov 5th making them a hybrid.

The downside is the hspa connectivity (based upon documentation) is not capable of NA 3G frequencies. :(

Hopefully this is also just a radio restriction that can be unlock with the sim / radio unlock when it arrives.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] dshosu:
Yeah, I think the Telus one can (RHOD 500), the Sprint one can not though because of a restriction by the radio.

http://www.nuerom.com/nueWiki/Rhodium_W rtask b data.ashx?HL=rhodium

On a lighter note, cmonex of the Elite Team has said that this can be worked around to get the RHOD 400 to work on US GSM networks

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=93252
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] leepriestenator:
Can anyone confirm if the new sim unlocker can unlock the SPRINT TP2 to US networks?
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] a in yul:
confirmed; as long as u also flash the special radio as prepared by cmonex...
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] wingtytn:
ok im a noobie to this my question is can i change the rom on the verizon imagio which is the rhodium... u can see what i hav and im going to keep using it for mods purpose but my chick want to drop tmobile usa for verizon usa which means i hav to get a new device so my question is can i change the rom to wat i want and like
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] kmanuel74:
The Verizon Imagio is not a Rhodium! I believe the HTC code name is the Whitestone. Take a look here:

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=546
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] wingtytn:
thanks dude
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] bgmarian:
Question!

Hi guys. I am from Roumania and I have 2 questions: can everyone tell me please, htc pro2 work in my country and this model had Tv-out?.....what rom work in this? thkx
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] leepriestenator:
Yes it had s TV out and will work anywhere around the world (GSM / CDMA).

3G may or may not work in all countries since it is not a quad band 3G phone.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] zkidron:
3G on a GSM network

I just bought a TP2 (verizon) from a web seller in Ecuador. He has installed Energy ROM WM6.5 on it, which is great. However he neglected to mention I will NOT be getting GSM 3G service here.

Both GSM operators in Ecuador (Movistar and American movil) have 850 GSM and 1900 3G networks. There is a third, tiny, CDMA EVDO operator with a network so limited it is useless.

To have this phone without 3G is to shoot myself in the foot so I'm looking for a solution.

In theory then: the phone gives me the option to select

GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)

Which is the band operating here. But when I select it, there is no 3G service, just GSM.

I'm guessing this is a Radio problem that can be solved by a proper version.

Am I right? IS there a proper version?

Thanks all
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Telek:
This is very interesting and something that I am trying to work on - but no, currently I do not think that we can do 3G on these phones at all. It may be a firmware issue that we can hack but it's going to take some time to look into it.

If I may ask what is it that you need 3G speeds for?
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] zkidron:
I use Skype a lot, I use SSH to configure and check on servers and routers. I like my Youtube a lot :)

Check my news, mail etc etc etc.

I guess I can kluge around, getting a CDMA EVDO account data only account (on the other operator) and use that when I need 3G speeds, but then my GSM phone number will not be available for calls, so ...
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Telek:
Well this phone does support Edge (2.5G) which is 384kbit/sec - should be enough to do everything you mention including youtube, no?

Have you checked to see what speeds you can actually get on the phone?
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] zkidron:
I did check. EDGE, here, gives me 56 kbps down and 2-10 kbps up.

A far cry from the advertised 384 kbps. I tested Skype, no good, only works for messages but can't talk.

So 3.5G is a must. Well, we all lived rather ok with TDMA just a few short years ago, and dial up at 10 kbps...

Still, 3.5G with 1 mbps real life throughput is available (cheap too, just US$ 20 per month unlimited) and the TP2 is such a great phone, so made for surfing the web. It'll be a shame not to use it.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Telek:
Well unfortunately it's not currently available on the phone - hopefully we'll have a fix but there are no guarantees :(
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] zkidron:
Thanks, I know you guys are doing it pro bono. Just though to hang it out there and see what can be done.

BTW, my exact specs are:

TP2, Ex Verizon, unlocked.

B 04

R 2.05.00WV

P DSDCANPZM6125

D EnergyROM
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] intestinal incubation:
Using a stock US Cellular TP2

Q11. Headset

a. Do you get audio (stereo output) from the Ext-USB port like with the GSM versions?

Yes, I have confirmed it using the headset that came with my titan.

b. Can an old headset with the Ext-USB connector work as a handsfree?

Yes, I just tested it, works great.

c. Telus comes with a 3.5mm based handsfree. What are Verizon and Sprint customers (who don't get one) doing about it?

FWIW, US Cellular comes with one.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] leepriestenator:
Thanks. All the questions ahve been answered except for the one about the supported UMTS bands.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] unL33T:
So if I get a Telus Touch Pro2 and have it unlocked will it have access to North American 3G networks or no... lots of confusion from what I've read. :confused:

I understand it will work on EDGE in North America but not sure about 3G...
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] quid246:
It will only work with Telus EVDO in North America.

In Europe/Asia, the 2100 band will kick in and give you 3G.

If you want Rogers 3G, then you better buy a Tilt2.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] unL33T:
I already know it will run on other EVDO networks other than Telus right out of the box (although I'll get charged roaming fees) and from the little reading I've done on this site, HowardForums, and various other websites it will work on NA GSM networks (including Telus' and Rogers', if radio is unlocked) but most say it will only run at EDGE speeds because it only has 3G in the 2100 frequency and NA GSM carriers use 850/1900 even for 3G. However I've read in some sources that the 3G @ 2100 thing is a software restriction that can be bypassed with a custom radio flash. I'm looking for confirmation of whether that is true or not.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] axemurderer:
ESN and IMEI

I am looking on the box of my new Verizon TP2. Listed on the box is an MEID in hex format, and also Sim ID.. Hope this helps.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] jmt3z4:
Do I need to download the SIM unlocker in order to flash custom roms onto my Sprint TP2? Should I download the SIM unlocker, install it, and then download the RhodiumW Hard-SPL as well and run that? Do I need to do both downloads before I can start using custom roms? I'm new to downloading custom roms for my TP2 and idk what to do. Please help??
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Telek:
You only need to run the HardSPL to flash custom ROMs.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] jmt3z4:
Thanks a lot buddy.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] charlie71:
sprint touch pro2 on US GSM yet?

Has anyone come up with a solution to this yet?

I have a Sprint touch pro2 using it on AT&T USA network. It connects, but keeps dropping me, seems everytime it has to switch towers or something.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] julienrl:
A few months ago I started posting about the datasheet of the chipset allowing for the north-american HSPA bands; however I can not say hwo this coudl be acheived... figuring this out would probably require much more expertise than I have and \ or tiral and error and possibly bricking a phone. Sorry I can't be of any more help. What I can say is only that the chipset could support according to the qualcomm datasheet.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Olipro:
see the new radio I made - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=578659
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] briansteedman:
The answer to Q9 made my week. I've got a VZW TP2 on order and that was a concern, as flashing roms on my old XV6800 (VZW Tytn) got really old. Does anyone have a recommended ROM for the TP2 on VZW? I searched, I couldn't find one. Pardon my noobness to this particular phone. So, thank you for putting this together, it was very helpful and informative.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Telek:
MightyROM seems to be the most popular rom, followed by Energy. Really it's up to your preferences.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] mobius7107:
THE ESN

Q2. As far as I know, ESN is used for CDMA phones and IMEI is used for GSM phones. Can anyone check to see if the CDMA Rhodiums come with 2 identifications numbers, one for each radio?

A2. Seems like it does come with both, although the ESN in this case is referred to as as an MEID

The esn (Electronic Serial Number) is used as the tracking number there is the esn hex and decimal, both numbers equal the same thing.

TO Expand on this

The way it was explained to me the hex and the dec when computed correctly spell out the manufactures name or code name. Thats how its verified on the phone. When you program a phone your given the MSL (Master Security Lock) to bring it into program mode.

Similar to ##RTN# (##786#) that gives specific phone info this shows activation dates, refurbished or reconditioned status and date, the MISD{Sometimes}, MSN/MDN, and the ESN/MEID in hex and dec format... and finally call/data timers/ The MSL is 6 numbers long. and is entered by hitting ##

******

# on a blackberry there is no # after the 6th digit just hit enter.

Once programing mode is entered you are asked to VIEW EDIT or DONE/SAVE.

NOTE Don't hit edit unless you know the MSID since the MSID will erase as soon as you enter EDIT.

The MDN (phone Number) is requested first. The MSID is the specific code given by the network to establish a data connecting. Enter the MSID Save and soft reset.

The MDN and the MSID are used like a user-name and password your number is your password and if you hit ##DATA# (##8232#) that is your Email/User-name the email is also linked to your MSID and together they allow access to the network.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] cyanide77:
I just wanted to confirm that I bought a phone from Ebay which was a US Cellular RHOD 400 (Touch Pro 2) and I have it running Edge from ATT.

All I had to do was SIM Unlock and Security Unlock and it worked, thats all it took. I also have MightyRom flashed on it as well.

My next step in this phone is trying all possible ways of getting 3G to work, if that succeeds then this phone is perfect.

Cyanide
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] vcolm85:
Q: How does one go about Unlock, HardSPL, etc. when they do not (and cannot) run Windows, but have other sync software readily available?
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Telek:
Find a windows box. It's only available on windows right now. VM it if you have to.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] gamescan:
3G speeds on a CMDA Touch Pro will only be achieved on EVDO Rev A or on a UMTS/WCDMA carrier in Europe.

You will not get 3G with that phone on ATT. ATT uses different UMTS/WCDMA frequencies than those supported by the CDMA TP2.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Telek:
Do we have actual confirmation of that? We know that the modem itself is capable but it looks like we don't have any firmware to support that.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] gamescan:
How do you "know" that the phone is capable of it?

You can't just "add support" in software if the hardware isn't designed for it. It doesn't work that way.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Telek:
Because looking up the radio chipset itself shows us that the physical hardware can support it.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] siggy316:
can i use both sprint and the sim chip at the same time?
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Telek:
No, you have to chose one network or the other to be on at any given time.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] gamescan:
You do realize that the chipset which you refer to can have different DSPs?

And you do also realize that the paired antenna matters?

If you're going to make a claim that the hardware supports something that HTC says it does not, then you're going to be a bit more specific than "I ran a google search." ;)
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] reigndropz:
I have been reading for quite some time now and forgive my ignorance but I keep reading different answers on this. I'm starting to get cross-eyed reading this :-p I have a CDMA Sprint TP2 and the sim card that came with it. If I am able to flash one of the WU radios after I get the unlocker, will I be able to use GSM networks? Or do I need a SIM from a company that already has a GSM network?

For example, would I need a Verizon sim card to be able to use the GSM or would the Sprint SIM be enough? Sorry if you guys have answered this over and over again, but I did search for an answer. Thanks.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Telek:
Provided that the company is a GSM company then you will need their sim to be able to use their network.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] AGY:
Question TP2

I just bought on ebay an HTC TP2 unbranded model T7373 with WCDMA

I been reading a lot but I haven't found the right answer. I am wondering if you could help me.

My question is could I use this phone as a 2 way radio ? (nextel or mike)?

thanks
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Telek:
Short answer No, but...

If you had an internet-based peer-to-peer voice communications application it could work provided that everyone you want to talk to has a data plan. Out of the box functionality though doesn't support such things.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] AGY:
Thanks! for your reply! I guess I should asked before buying it!! o well !! im sure i am still going to like it!!

I am having hard time thinking I am going to let my tytn II go!
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] kmanuel74:
I beleive your T7373 is an unbranded GSM phone. CDMA and WCDMA are not the same thing. Do not flash anything that says CDMA on it or you will be in the market to buy another one.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] 2002wrex:
what he said. read my sig. same thing.

this is a gray issue though. the phone is FULLY capable of connecting to 3g, especially in europe. the area where it grays a little is that it is a quad-band phone, GSM(900+1800)+UTMS(2100+900) and GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850).

at&t's network bands look like this:

Frequency Protocol Class

850 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G

1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G

850 MHz UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ 3G

1900 MHz UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ 3G

so why is it that i can only connect at edge speeds? i am not a software developer or PPC hardware specialist, so i do not know the answer. but someone on xda, should!

edit: i may be wrong about the umts 900/1900/2100. i will research this further, and encourage others to do so as well.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] el_venga:
u said it urself. cdma touch pro2 only supports umts/wcdma at 2100 mhz and some versions add 900 mhz which are not available in US. some latin american countries like where i live have 900 mhz but only 1 operator uses it, Orange Dominicana. 2100 mhz its exclusive to europe networks.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Telek:
The point being that the physical radio hardware does support all those frequencies, so it appears to be a software limitation which means that it is hackable.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] marvdmartian:
hi.. newbie here..

i have a sprint TP2, it's already unlocked for networks outside the US.. i don't live in the US so i dont really need to unlock it..

but i want to flash custom roms.. do i need to sim unlock it? or can i just directly flash a rom?
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] kmanuel74:
Your first post, I'd like to say welcome, but looks like you've been here for a while.

If your only looking to flash custom ROMs, you should flash HSPL. Just make sure it is for CDMA, and that goes for the radio and ROMs. Even though you will only be using the GSM, you could risk bricking your phone if you flash anything meant for the GSM models.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] marvdmartian:
thanks for the welcome. :) yup i've been reading here a lot ever since i had my first WM device..

so I don't have to sim-unlock if i dont intend to use the TP2 in the US? I'll still be able to flash custom ROMs successfully?
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] kmanuel74:
I don't have Sprint, but I beleive they already come unlocked for non-US carriers. So the HSPL will allow you to flash the custom roms. You will not be able to flash modified radios though. If you plan on keeping the stock radio and just flashing custom roms, your alset with the HSPL
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] marvdmartian:
ohh.. cool.. thanks..

what do you recommend? keep the stock radio? or change it?.. whats the difference?..
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] kmanuel74:
There are various opinions on that question. It really depends on location. If you have no problems, I'd stick with stock. If on the other hand you would like to try out each, then you would have to buy the sim unlocker (Its short money).

On my mogul, I noticed a big difference between radios with the GPS, nothing else. My TP2 is still running VZW stock radio.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] marvdmartian:
ohh.. alright.. thanks..

one more question.. what's security unlock? do i have to do that to flash a custom rom?