yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
new icons. operafix, smartlock cooked in (but disabled by default), hdmini lockscreen removed, doc tab fix, 23110 build :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] djkasmic:
@ agent: is 23110 a newer build than 25010?? where are the differences and which lockscreen works?? the old wm6.5??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jimsearle:
Will it include the new facebook tab? Other changes? I was just about to flash the lastest, but might wait now...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Speadge:
wow...

looks great (LEO)

icons are superb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

smartlock works, feels very nice @ all. hope its bugfree. im already beginning to love it :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Looking to try out agent's 2.5 ROMs after finding other 2.5 ROMs to be a bit sluggish on the homescreen.

So wanted to get some feedback... is there a slight lag as well with firestorm 2.5 homescreen as well? I'm coming from Sense 2.1 Roms which are blazingly fast on the homescreen, so I'm starting to wonder if the slight lag is just inherent with the 2.5 homescreen.

Thanks in advance! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jsmith8858:
In general, for any ROM, always go with those that use the Rhodium/Touch Pro versions of Sense 2.5, avoid any that use the LEO version -- sense 2.5 is definitely smoother on the TP2 when you use the versions designed for that device. In this case, go for the ROMS labelled "TP2" and avoid the LEO ROMS unless you really, really need the Documents and FootPrints tabs.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
The other 2.5 ROM I tried was NRG's, and you're right, they were full blown with all the tabs. Even after I removed the Documents, Footprints, and some other tabs I never use via Settings, the homescreen still had noticeable lag even with weather animations disabled. Basically, what I found was this:

1) If I scroll off of the homescreen, there was a slight lag to the scrolling.

2) Once I settle on another tab and scroll away from the other tab, scrolling is nice and smooth.

3) Once I settle on homescreen and scroll away again, laggy.

Does this sound like something I should just expect from 2.5 ROMs in general?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Speadge:
just try out the new leo 23110 from valkyrie.htc-files.com.

its great!!! and i dont see any laggin, even in leo-version

u can try the TR2.5 also, but i dont know if its bugfree ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
RE Home Tab Speed/Lag with Sense 2.5:

Another factor to consider (to make the answer more-complicated :p ) is whether or not Cookie home mod is built in. The last couple of builds of Valky roms (6.1 and 6.2, at least) have that built in. I think that's a

good thing

-- I

love

it...but it's another factor that affects performance.

I know that some NRG Sense 2.5 roms have the choice of Cookie Home mod or MaxManilla as built-ins (or maybe neither).

Anyway...this isn't an answer, really, but just so you know that there may not be a simple answer. Except I'm sure that Sense 2.5 must be a little slower than 2.1 -- how could it not be? But with a good build the difference (if any) is acceptable...to me anyway.

I think you should at least try a Valky rom -- the new TR2.5 version (= Rhodium Sense) when it's done uploading. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Cool, and yes, I definitely plan on giving it a try. But, I downloaded the 25009 version as most people seem to using that one.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
I think ultimately that's going to be the key... whether the difference is acceptable. Even with the plainjane Manila 2.5 I tried, it was just not given the lag free experience I'm used to with 2.1.

I definitely plan on trying them out this weekend, thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Since I'll be flashing the new rom(s) tonight/tomorrow I think I'll take this opportunity to first do a little spring cleaning -- try out agent_47's Task 29.

It seems to be quite a hit! Almost all posts on that thread are very-positive...almost whining-free -- and that's rare. :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jncokilla:
I just got the ATT TP2 and the default keyboard layout is different from what i got how do I switch it to mine
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jsmith8858:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=xda+tilt+2+keyboard+layout
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
23110 is very nice and faaast. I just flashed it and did a sprite level 2 restore with rom 23519 and all installed apps etc that were part of 23519.

The apps from 23519 appear now in 23110 as if they were cooked in....

Not sure what to make of all that.

Some minor stuff like keyboard fix, voice command slide to shutdown and personal stuff is missing. Icontact icon is there, but the program is replaced by the standart contact manager, so a reinstall is necessary.

I was too lazy to install all the apps (too much time). As a computer tech/admin, I always look for shortcuts:D.

Everything is working great agent_47! This rom seems really nice and stable.

Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Which 23110 version, clauswl?

I just flashed the 23110TR2.5 version, and it's nice. [I ran agent_47's "Task 29" (I like that name!) first.]

The obvious newness/difference is/are the new icons, which I like (though I liked the dark-goth ones, too :p )

New Opera is working fine -- launches like it's supposed to, without the filename glitch that the last release had. It was my first opportunity to restore all my Opera bookmarks using Opera Link (so nice)!

Is it fast? Yeah, sure...but all of the recent Valky releases seem fast to me. :o

Thanks, agent_47! It's been a long time since I've made a contribution to your effort -- I think it's time again...keep an eye on your inbox for something from PayPal. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
cookie does make it a lil sluggy..here is what u can do:

1. stop weather animation using built in function in cookie

2. reduce animation level from hkcu\software\manila\??cookie.....animationlevel??.....or someting similar to cookie.....animationlevel

3. install this cab to remove cookie mod: http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=290687&d=1268033954

another note.....LEO (full version of manila) drains batti....which explains y there has been mixed review on batti level.....it is very significant in HD2.....its either the DOC tab or the MUSIC tab....not sure it. taskmanager show no CPU usage. ill look into it soon....i have 6 more roms to make n upload :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Psych0t1c20:
Hey just a question I've been curious about. What's the difference from the Leo and the TR rom? And what is Leo? Sorry for the noob questions, just curious.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
:eek:

please do a google with HTC leo :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Those names refer to different versions of Sense (aka Manila), which is the interface that HTC puts on the TP2 (Rhodium) and LEO (HD2) over Windows Mobile. The Leo version of the Valky roms (using Sense from the Leo) have the Document and Footprints Sense tabs, and the TR version (using Sense from the TP2/Rhodium) doesn't have those two Sense tabs.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] autonomous-inc:
It's been a while since I used a Leo ROM. I just got out of the Energy ROMs by NRG, the last Leo ROM I used was the Evo.

Do Leo ROMs take advantage of the g-sensor on the tabs, and would someone suggest the TR over Leo considering I'm moving from Energy.

Lastly, does the Google Locator service work? It either doesn't or I did somethin wrong using the 20th of March Energy. My clock kept resetting and the weather never updated.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mbb1117:
I used NRG Roms for a long time. You will be very happy once you switch. I like the LEO over TR buts that's just my preference. If you notice how many posts are on NRGZ thread, its because of all the issues.

Agent 47 makes quality roms that do what they should do. If there is an issue he will address it himself.

In my opinion he is the Best Chef with the Best ROMS!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] autonomous-inc:
Wow. That's also a plus. I got a reply with this thread. Haha.

NRG made a good ROM, but I'm looking for a stable, working ROM. Before I flash, I'm using .91 for my radio. Do you suggest a different one? I'm with AT&T in the Southern region of the US fyi.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mbb1117:
LOL not only did you get a response. But it wasnt rude or sarcastic like on the other thread. I am using 91 also and live in New Mexico however I am on T-mobile.

The Roms are very stable little to no freezing very fast and I can get 3 days battery life off a single charge (light usage of course). Make sure you do a couple of hard resets after you flash or use the tool agent 47 has created. I cant remember the name right now but its only a few pages back.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sc0174:
I was responding with my wifes account. My info is in my sig. sorry if caused any confusion
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
It's "Task 29". I used it for the first time tonight before I flashed the new TR2.5.

From all the posts I've read of different people's experiences with different radios it's hard to see any pattern of which is best where. Definitely no pattern for T-Mo vs ATT and the same radios work on GSM carriers world-wide. Honestly, I hardly see any difference between any of the "modern" radio-roms...though with my current 4.49.25.77 it really does seem to pick up GPS satellites faster. I hardly ever use GPS, but FWIW, it does seem superior.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jcm999:
Great ROM

Agent_47, I just downloaded and installed 23110TR2.5 tonight and for my purposes, it is the Perfect ROM! Everything I have had minor bugs or issues with before are working great. You have earned enough points to induce me to contribute to your projects. The "check" will be in the mail shortly.

On an additional note, I used your Task29 utility tonight before flashing the ROM. I am pleased to report that for the first time in several ROM's I am now once again able to sync the "Notes" portion of my Outlook files, (which had previously been locking up the entire sync process and I had to exclude the Notes from syncing). I am not sure whether it is the new ROM or the Task29 that resolved it but I am thankful that it is now working!

Thanks for your tremendous work. I truly believe you have the best ROM's for the TP2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jcm999:
MCbrian, I do use GPS functions quite a lot on my TP2. I have been disappointed in the time it takes to pick up the satellites since I got the phone last summer. Sometimes I have even driven 30 minutes (and already got to my destination!) before any satellites are found. It was good to see your comment above about radio .77, I will give it a try and see if it helps.

BTW, weren't you using radio .91 just a day or so ago?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
I switched from .91 earlier this week...don't remember which day. I didn't switch because of any problem with .91, just that .77 had gotten a lot of praise on the radio-rom thread, it's so easy to flash a radio-rom, so why not? I don't have anything bad to say about it...

By the way, do you have the View attachment 299729?

I don't know how it works -- there's a thread about it somewhere -- but run it once in a while and after it gets satellites it improves speed of GPS lock for other apps that use GPS.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Many thanks agent, I'll be sure to try these tweaks out.

Well, after seeing first-hand how "fanboy"ish (where you get barraged by an army of his followers telling you "his roms are perfect, you're the problem"... even when the chef validates the bug) the other thread was getting, it was pretty much time to move elsewhere. After reading up here and seeing agent actively working with the users of his roms, I'm sold and can't wait to try out my first firestorm ROM!

77 has been a pretty significant improvement over 91 here in central texas for both reception and gps performance/lock time.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mikesmith5688:
now that ****s funny as hell lmfao
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] autonomous-inc:
Mk, so I just flashed. Maybe I'm ignorant, but how do I get Manilla to work (I was under the impression that this ROM came with Manilla 2.5 working)?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dragoth:
It's really simple ;)

Go to Start --> Settings --> "Home" (Settings) --> go onto Tab "Items" and check HTC Sense.

After you go back to your Homescreen, Sense (aka Manila) will start up right away.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] autonomous-inc:
Aaaand, this ROM has won me over a permanent user. It's speedy, bug-free, and most of all, it works.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lennyz1988:
What also helps speeding up the today page is reducing the number of shortcut pages. You can set the number of shortcut pages in:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Manila\[Co0kie.NumShortcutPages]

[Co0kie.NumShortcutPages] - total number of quick links pages

- 1, 2 or 3

The less shortcutpages you use the faster the home page works :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lennyz1988:
dubbel post..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] djkasmic:
is the new facebook-tab cooked in??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
install n findout ... n if its not u can install the cab.....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Downloading 23110 TR2.5. Will report back shortly! :)

Quick question: Is Swype cooked in? Gotten somewhat used to it using it in other ROMs, but definitely not something that I gotta have.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jrip777:
Well unfortunately Im going to be switching devices here in the next couple of days. well maybe not unfortunately but Ive had suck good luck here but im am excited about getting my HD2. I dont think it will be here til monday so of course I had to flash the new leo build. And it is simply amazing. Ive thought for the past month or so that I was doing something wrong setting up my outlook account. But I tried with this build and I think it worked. I havent recieved any mail since last night but it did log in and pull emails from earlier in the day yesterday which I havent had happen in a long time. But that aside everything running absolutly perfect. I think that the transition to the HD2 would be MUCH MUCH worse if I didnt know that I can continue flashing Agents roms over there too =)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
No, it's not. I install it manually. I don't use it much as I really prefer using the wonderful hard-keyboard (if I didn't I'd really consider switching to the HD2, like jrip777 ;) ).

But swype is great for on-screen.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DADDYDC650:
Loving the Mar - 27th ROM! Seems perfect so far. Only flaw I can find is that there is no incoming call screen in landscape mode. No other ROM has this other than the DS 23xxx series. Hmmm... thanks chef for your hard work!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Excellent, mind directing me to a download link? Don't see it in agent's files.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
View attachment 299905

Don't remember where...so here's this.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Thanks!... going through the setup screens as we speak. :D

**UPDATE**: Holy ridiculous speed... liking it a lot! Time to put all the goodies in and see if that slows things down a bit. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Hmmm, can't for the life of me find the Cookiemonster settings program link...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
It's not built in, unfortunatly. I tweak via the registry: HKCU/software/htc/manila. There's also an app for doing this on the cookie home mod thread.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
No worries, that app was exactly what I was looking for, thanks! BTW, I'm used to using Regedit to revise the registry. What tool do you use with agent's ROMs?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
i used to edit the registry using the capability built in to Total Commander, but then I bought Resco File Explorer, which includes a registry-editing add-on. Resco is really great -- worth paying the retail $29 to me. YMMV. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] SpecTrax:
btw

wich version of cookie's manila mod comes with the latest build?

1.6 or 1.6.1 ?

regards to the cook ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
1.6.1 :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
I agree, its a great tool. I might even purchase it....:D

I also make sure to enable show all files (hidden etc.), this gives me full contol over the file system.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stroker507:
Is the sms screen working on contact list?.. I am using 6.2 25009 2.5TR and dont see a good reason to flash unless this issue is fixed.

regards
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Well...(as we've already discussed) only if you want to go to heaven. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
Hey there! How are you!

Well, I am trying to... but resco is a well thought through application.

I also don't care about having to put a different name into my phone...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Just installed FDCSoft Task Manager, which includes regedit. LOVING this ROM... so much faster than any other 2.5 ROM I've tried!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sumflipnol:
Nice to see someone familiar from the NRG ROMs here.;)

I'm still on the v6.1.25007TR2.5 and I don't mind staying on it. It's still fast and memory doesn't creep up past 70% for me!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
So...when are you guys gonna to update your signature to show your Valky Pride? :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Don't see HTC GPS Tool anywhere on the ROM. Agent, can you provide this as a cab install?

Thanks! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Check Post# 6413. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Psych0t1c20:
I used the cab posted to disable cookie home tabs, now I have the default 3 big tabs, is there a way to make those to 4 tabs?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Axiixa:
Problems with Favorites...

After adding friends to the Favorites tab and then selecting a friend using the name (not the picture) in order to send an SMS it loads the last set of contacts I used to add the last favorite (person), not the message number for that person. :confused:

Is this feature working correctly for others? I've run Task29, reflashed the ROM and done the requisite SR. Is it just me?:rolleyes:

Regards.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MKK:
Chinese fonts

Anyone have luck installing Chinese fonts on v6.2.25009TR2.5? I installed the Microsoft Yahei 6.01 font package. Strange thing is that I can now see Chinese words on websites just fine, but all I see when opening Chinese emails are little square boxes. Any suggestions?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dinky:
Did you try the method that I mentioned in post# 6006?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
Here you go.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
6.2.21897

For those into WM6.5, I see that there are two version of this up on the Valkyrie File Browser.

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6.2.23110TR2.5 Memory Use?

Anyone notice higher-than-normal -- or just higher than desirable -- memory use on this one? (I'm referring to Program memory, of course.) On 25009TR2.5 it was common for my memory to get above 70% -- sometimes high 70s -- within a few hours of use...depending on the use. Well, I just-now checked my memory use and it was 86% full! :eek:

The phone seemed to be working OK despite the very-full memory, but still....

I have my Activesync set on continuous connection to my Exchange Server, and Gmail checks every 10 minutes, but I don't know if those even affect memory use. Activesync is the only "named" application -- named by taskmanager -- running in the background all the time.

I've been using Opera 10 (the latest/final included with this ROM) quite a bit -- some of it to check/post on this forum. Seems like I remember reading that Opera uses a lot of memory...if true, then it must not be giving it back.

Oh, and I've run cleanRAM at Level 3 "Full Power", and that frees up 15 - 18 MB, but there's still quite a bit that's been gobbled up and not being freed (except on S.R, of course). The amount of memory not freed by cleanRAM grows with time, so eventually it's still 75%+ full after cleanRAM.

Anyone else wanna post their comparable (better/worse) memory status/experience?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
I can't say in comparison with other FireStorm ROMs, but yeah, the latest release I'm using both starts out with less RAM than other ROMs I've used (after MS Voicecommand install, I'm booting at around 62MB free RAM). On top of that, it's dropped down to 40MB after a few hours of use.

Like your experience, the ROM is DAMN fast. I can confidently say the speed of every single other 2.5 ROMs I've tried have been unacceptable... 6.2.23110TR2.5, on the other hand, screams and is an absolute joy to use.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
If that's the Charter GPS tool, it doesn't seem to run properly on 6.2.23110TR2.5 for me. It gets stuck and doesn't even start polling the GPS satellites.

Downloaded the HTC GPS Tool from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=516208, which works flawlessly... thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Thanks for the feedback on the memory.

Did you see the version of HTC GPS tool I mentioned a few posts back? I see that this one you linked to is different -- mine seems to be an older version (V1.1.1.0)...though it works fine.

I think I'll DL and install this Sex1 version and see what's different.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
regarding memory, can some1 check the fd taskmanager to check what is taking up so much ram.....n any feed on ram from 21897....

ram does seem 5% higher in leo too on 23111....so m guesing its that. but other than that, i din change anything that may effect ram so much
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Yep, was just about to mention... this one is definitely newer. Works great also... with AGPS, got a lock in 15 seconds or so! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Agent, if I may... gwes.exe on this ROM even seems to be booting up "hogging" RAM:

After a soft reset just now:

Free RAM: 61 MB

gwes - 31.1MB

I do recall with other ROMs I've used, gwes usually only boots up around 23~25MB or so.

Hope this helps!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
FWIW: Here's what mine looks like right after s.r.:

View attachment 300119

I'll repost what it looks like when ram gets all gobbled up. ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Looks virtually identical to mine after a soft reset. That gwes.exe looks a bit bloated...