yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alcibiade:
I meant all the 1.8 (incl the 1.8.5) are slower and sometimes freeze (i also have sometimes sleep of death issues since changed from 1.7 to 1.8 but since the ROM is different I am not sure whether it is because of cookie or not)

At least that's my experience so far :(

Didnt mean to compare 1.8 and 1.8.5 which seem roughly to have the same issues & speed
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sumflipnol:
Maybe we could ask agent to cook up a ROM with CHT1.8.1, without Extendir, so we can compare it to v.6.8, which had CHT1.8.1 and Extendir. Right now, we're stuck with comparing CHT1.8.1 + Extendir vs. CHT1.8.5 (w/out Extendir).

I actually just flashed my HD2 with a ROM equipped with CHT1.8.5. Even my HD2 takes longer to load Sense with CHT1.8.5 compared to CHT1.8.1. CHT1.8.5 also has some weird stability issues, so it might be worth sticking to CHT1.8.1 until Co0kie releases a more stable package.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jcm999:
I think we have so many variables that it is impossible for Agent to please everyone, so my opinion is that the next ROM should NOT include CHT at all and users could then add whatever version of CHT they like best. Yeah, I understand that CHT and other programs that are "cooked" supposedly run faster, but my previous observations with most programs is this extra speed is barely noticeable.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sumflipnol:
That's also true -- especially since we've had to overwrite the CHT cooked in the ROM to make it [fully] functional anyway. Of course, we are just "diners" using ROMs the chef customizes to his own preference, so it's ultimately up to him whether or not to include CHT and whichever version to use.

Though I'm still wondering if Extendir is beneficial or not.:confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wagool:
I notice the words of "When Pushinternet Engine disable,youcan get back 10mb RAM Free" in Start>Utilities>Rhodium Settings Tool>Menu>Pushinternet Engine>.But I can not disable it in the swich.Can it to gets back 10mb RAM free realy?:confused:How can I do?Helps,thanks!:o
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] SpecTrax:
seems like push is already disabled in the reg. even if the tool says its on
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Completeley agreed
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
I'd like to try a Valky ROM with MaxSense -- agent_47 mentioned a few days ago that he was considering this. Apparently there isn't a cab to install ex-ROM, so it has to be built in. Like Extendir in that respect.

So although this is a "fixed-menu" restaurant, not cooked to order, ;) if the cook was taking orders I'd have:

- Latest-greatest WM6.5.5 with Sense 2.5

- Latest-greatest WM6.5.5 with Sense 2.5 with MaxSense

And I'm trying to stick to an Extendir-free diet so none for me, please.

Yes, I'm placing two orders -- I'm hungry :D

A topic I haven't seen discussed for a long time: What about different releases of Sense 2.5? The Valky ROMs have been using 20121225 for a long time -- is that recognized as the

best

one?

@agent_47: How did you decide to stick with 2.5.20121225? ...just wondering, 'cause I don't know anything about different versions of Sense 2.5. Thanks. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sumflipnol:
I tried an EnergyROM with MaxSense on my HD2 a while ago and I believe the RAM usage was a little higher than the usual CHT ROMs, so I'm not sure how it will affect the TP2 (I used the first release of MaxSense and now I think there's a third release).

Sidenote: I don't know if I'm just slow at this or what, but I was so confused using MaxSense!:o I confess the Home Tab similar to Android OS or the SPB Mobile Shell, but that thing just had all these icons jumping out at me!:p:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
huh??

m working on manila 2.2016....2.12 is faster than 2.2015.....lets see how 2016 works out :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wagool:
m working on manila 2.2016....2.12 is faster than 2.2015.....lets see how 2016 works out :)[/QUOTE]

Waitting for you great work!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
ok......so i have been testing, with and without manila, there is a definite difference in performance (cookie being slower...) and ram increases by 18MB

also, the error thrown by cht editor is occurs after the registry has been saved. not sure y, but it hangs while trying to reset. but as the basis of it is working, its not on my priority list....

new rom tonight :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] legents:
YEAH :) i see you uploading my man...is this the one with 2.2016 manila?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] legents:
Uploading stalled!!:eek:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vonschau:
just installed 6.8.23121TR2.5-EXTENDIR

CHT Editor doesn't work even after many resets (soft)

settings - personalize - home tab wallpaper, switches to homepage not to settings,

otherwise it seems stable and reasonable fast, had before 6.6.23120TR2.5-EXTENDIR which I liked for beeing stable.

Is there any work around to have more quicklinks even when the editor does not start?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Oh yes !!!

You with or without Cookie ? Not sure many here wants to run without Manilla !!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
You need to install Co0kie manually, on top of the rom-version, to make the Editor work. That is, manually install the main co0kie app, not the editor. Some kind of bug.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Agent 47 I saw you are uploading :) (Stuck at 60 Mb)

Can you describe us a bit what's new ? (I can see it's still the same built as in 6.9)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
new builds are uploading as i write :) this is just the beginning :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Sounds great! Thanks again, agent_47, for your effort. :)

Unfortunately -- for feeding my rom-addiction -- I'm camping out in the middle-of-nowhere southeast-Oregon desert with just an EDGE connection...probably not worth trying to download 150MB at EDGE speeds. :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
So...anyone try either of the two 7.0 WM6.5.5 ROMs yet?

Come on people -- just because it's the weekend (in the USA, anyway) doesn't mean you can't spend it indoors with your phone and forum! :p

Oh well...that's OK...I guess I'll have to take a chance and download one of them myself...even though it'll take hours at EDGE speeds, which is the speed I'm limited to in my location this weekend. :( Life is so hard... ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sagarc88:
june 27th ROM

Downloading 21907 XT noww... will respond w/ the performance and the bugs (if any :D) ...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sagarc88:
21907

Ok so its fully flashed and working... so far no bugs! :D ... i have tried Cookie home tab editor and works just finee... 87 mb RAM free :cool: and it shows 56% in use, which is pretty good! everything is smoothly running so far :) ... i task29 first, installed radio and the flashed ROM, n then hard reset! :) ... Nice work agent47! this is the first time im using this ROM and seems the most stable so far! thank you very much.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Sounds good!

By the build number -- 21907 -- that sounds like a WM6.5 -- rather than 6.5.5, right?

Anyone try one of the (new) WM6.5.5-based ROMs yet?

Guess I'll just wait until I get home to a high-speed connection tomorrow night to download and try something new. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wagool:
I‘m downloading 23569XT and will try it.Thank you Agent47 for your great work!!:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sagarc88:
yess i try to stick with the more stable ROMs. but if the 6.5.5 is stable plz report back here. maybe i can give it a try :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Balajee:
V7.0_23569

I installed 23569 V7.0 and I have a problem where in if bluetooth is turned on, it doesnt get reflected on task bar. anyone else having this problem?

BTW, i did run Task 29 before installing the ROM
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sumflipnol:
I'm up to test any of the ROMs. Any requests?:D

I am thinking about starting with v7.0.23123XT since 23569 is already being tested.

*However, I can only flash the ROM when I wake up on Monday morning (PDT) (or maybe I could flash 28 hours from now). My weekends just got busier than my weekdays!:eek:

So, the icon is missing, but more importantly, does bluetooth actually work?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Balajee:
Yes bluetooth does come on. Problem will be, I wont be able to quickly know if my headset paired with the phone
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wagool:
23569XT Must ReInstalled The Co0kie1.85 To Over Write:(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rickerbr:
7.0 23123 issues

No bluetooth icon

Have to install CHT 1.8.5 to have editor work.

Facebook tab cab that worked in 6.7 is not compatible with this version of Sense

All I've found so far.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alcibiade:
What are the differences between 23123 and 23569 ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sumflipnol:
flashing 23123XT...

So I'm flashing tonight afterall!:D

Will test if the bugs in 23569 are present. Will also try to find more (if any others are present).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
try installing the facebook tab. it should work fine now.

ill look into bluetoooth icon

one has threaded mail, but crappy font rendering (23569)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sumflipnol:
23123XT -- mini 'review'

CHT Editor: Upon hitting "Apply Changes," CHTEditor crashes. HOWEVER, upon rebooting Sense (by changing Tabs), the changes did take place.:eek::confused::D Since CHTE crashes, you can't change the wallpaper. But thanks to agent, you can do a simple reg-edit to fix that:

Bluetooth icon: doesn't show in the taskbar.

Other Notes: The TR2.5 is much faster than the LEO. There was a lot of lag when Leo Sense was enabled. But something was werd.... Even when I enabled Leo Sense, I went to Settings Tab > Personalize > Home Screen Tabs, and the amount of Tabs were exactly the same.:confused:

With TR2.5 Sense enabled, RAM at boot was at 60%. RAM quickly climbs up to ~70%. I've been setting up for one hour and RAM is currently at 73% (I noticed since v6.9 that RAM climbs quickly up to ~70% but stays in that area while the speed remains the same). ROM seems faster than v6.9; it's more responsive.

AND (surprise [to me, at least]) the Photos Tab rotates! I don't think I've seen that for a while.:D

That's it right now. I'm tired, and I'm going to sleep. Thanks for the ROM, agent!:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
- valkyrie.ftp v7.0.21907-XT 27th june wm6.5

- valkyrie.ftp v7.0.23569-XT 27th june wm6.5.5

- valkyrie.ftp v7.0.23123-MAX 27th june wm6.5.5

- valkyrie.ftp v7.0.21907-MAX 27th june wm6.5

- valkyrie.ftp v7.0.23569-MAX 27th june wm6.5.5

all builds are up.

and yes photo tab rotates :)

core manila is from LEO, not rhodium. so it does that. im just removing the services for footprint and doctab for TR2.5. note that after changes, manila will take a bit longer to load :rolleyes:

as for cht editor, i really m lost about this error...but as long as it only fails to restart manila, im cool with it and its not in my priority list:cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Thanks ! No speed difference ?

Also, what do you guys feel is the fastest between the Max Manilla version and the XT version ? (I guess XT is with alla tabs and comes with Cookie as well)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
21323 is faster...no doubt

max is faster than LEO but only because of the etra ram that cookie does and due to lack of tabs and animation. if personally i stick with cookie
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Thanks ! I guess the speed difference between Max and XT is not very big anyway...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wagool:
I am using 23123xt now.it's fine.thanks to agent!:d
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GenEwic:
tried both of the 23569 max and xt. both seem to run more stable and ended up using the xt one now since I'm more familiar with the regular sense ui. memory usage seem to be better than the previous 6.9 rom. Its been around the high 60% after a couple hours and slowly to the low/mid 70% range. no slowdowns for me as of yet, but I did notice the same errors like everyone else with the bluetooth icon and cht settings.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
RE 7.0.23123XT: As sumflipnol said (I think), I don't see any difference in tabs between "Full Leo" and "TR2.5" (switching between the two using "Manila Tabs" in Utilities) -- they both look like TR2.5 -- no Doc or Footprint Tabs :confused:

Huh?? What's going on...or am I doing something wrong?

I'm mentioning this mainly as a bug report -- I don't actually want the extra tabs of LEO.

By the way: This does seem fast -- and I'm the guy who says he can't usually notice much difference in speed between roms. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dwbchen:
Two issues with V7.0 MaxSense Build (and fixes)

Hi,

Just reporting two issues on V7.0 Maxsense build,

1. sms tab freeze requiring restarting sense.

2. A additional background icon on the Contacts tab that can not be removed.

Both have already been reported in Energy Rom thread and fixes are available to download. Tested working on my Rhodium.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vonschau:
More issues with MAX series:

SMS and Mail as well freezes the home screen,

can't change the homescreen background, installing coOki 1.8.5 scrambles start screen
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] babak:
yes ,the same situation for me too,but all of the rest runs raly nice :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vonschau:
one more issue with MAX Ver

SMS freezes and shows a test email, which is not shon anywhere else (Inbox etc)

Can't delet it and have to restart sense
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hskeik:
Salam agent_47,

Again very fast and sensitive ROM, very very very nice work really, well done :)

but I can't change the wallpaper in Manila...

don't you think about clean version? and Dinik skinned ROM ? I love your work, reallllly verrrrrrrrrrrrry fast ROM and touch is super sensitive... thanks again ...

P.S. I use 23123 XT version
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sumflipnol:
Agent found this fix to change he wallpaper in Manila:

It worked for me, using the same ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hskeik:
Thanks, it worked for me, but the other problem that i forgot to post, the error after applying settings on CHT editor...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] justince777:
Gps issues

is anyone else having gps issues with rom 21907 v7 cht? I can not get google maps to find me only gps that works is quick gps. any help or any fixes? appreciate the great rom def one of the best i have tried thanks again
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
In order to make the Editor work completely correctly it's necessary to install Co0kie Home Tab 1.8.5 manually (the main app -- not the editor, on top of the one that came in the ROM).

Without the manual install, importing previously-exported Editor settings works mostly, but a couple of settings that are important to me were not imported...until I installed CHT (the main app, not the Editor).

FWIW: GPS is working fine in 7.0.23123XT/(TR2.5)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] justince777:
THANKS I will give that one a go then. I tried switching my radio and looking for any fixes through google had no luck. It just seems the gps works just not making the connection to the apps that use them making it useless. I actually like the 23123 alot so I will bounce back to that one just was wondering if anyone had a fix or similiar issue for future releases. Again very good rom
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hskeik:
^^^

Thanks :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
By the way: Are you using "HTC GPS Tool" to warm-up/initiate/make-better the GPS function? If not, see what I said about it (and the link to one version of it) in Post # 7182.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] electrikjesus:
i was able to fix the wallpaper and editor problems on the new 6.5.5 Cookie rom. although, the sms tab freezes up sense. So I have it temp disabled until a fix for that is posted.

Great work on this one though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wagool:
When I changed the Manila Tabs to TR2.5 in Utilities,then error display as:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] master_brett:
No new "v7.0" Splash Screen???

Just Kidding. Thanks for all your hard work Agent! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] justince777:
ok i figured it out my gps is not working with google maps while on 3g network but as soon as i changed to edge it instantly connected and now it works great.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] djkasmic:
does the bluetooth icon problem still exist or is there a fix?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jcm999:
I received that same error, too!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jcm999:
Agent, very nice Rom, very speedy. But alas, once again the Outlook NOTES do not sync with this Rom. You have never commented on my previous posts of this problem or the ones posted by others. Do you know if this is a Windows Mobile problem or if there is a fix for this? I am stuck on a 6.2 version because that is the last one I had that would sync NOTES.

Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] electrikjesus:
If Agent47 were to send me the original artwork, I think I could come up with something new for version 7. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] lilchicano:
amazing ROMS like every other releases you made, very fast and stable with the 23123 build. but the only thing im having problem with is the music tab never finishes its search when first started and so i go to the library to pick a song and only plays it for like 6sec and just stops 30 secs max. this issue is the main reason i switched over from energys roms over to yours and now im starting to have it with this one also.

i guess ill give your roms another try maybe in your next release and hope that it works because i just love your roms now. keep up the good work regaurdless.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] justince777:
I am using the same build and do not have that issue or any issue with the music player and I use it daily. I assume you did task 29 before you flashed since you are not new to this. :) maybe a conflicting app you added to your phone?;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sagarc88:
So i have 2 questions:

1) I asked this in energy Rom thread a while back but didn get a good answer. Does any1 know how to map the "ok" button on att tilt2 to the "send" key in the SMS. I use keyboard config but there is no such thing in there.

2) has anyone noticed a degradation in camera quality? its not jus this ROM. Deepshining, Energy and mostly all the other ROMs have this problem. i used to have cell evo (no - sense) and it worked just fine and the pictures were great quality. now i see grains in the picture and its not as high quality. is there a fix maybe if some1 has seen 1?

thank you for your response :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
This may seem too obvious, but I have to ask:

Is it possible that the lens/cover is just dirty (or scratched)? That's an effect that would span any ROM and gets worse with time -- which is what you're seeing.

I only ask because I read another thread where somebody removed the outer lens cover and their pictures (reportedly) improved.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sagarc88:
u kno u make a very good and viable point :D. that could very much be the thing causing it. i been removed the lens cover so i tried cleaning the camera lens itself and the outer cover but i didn see a differnece.. but maybe the lens is just scratched! i jus wanted to see if this is a problem other people were also experiencing! thanks for the reply :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wagool:
I used 23121XT for 2 days and I fell it's fine in RAM and battery life.Than you Agent!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rahlquist:
Agent is there any way to prevent rotation of the photo tab and also the music tab in the registry?

Also do the new roms have the newer messaging app thats been floating about?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sagarc88:
U can try this... go to the registry editor or total commander n navigate to this:

HKCU\Software\HTC\HTCSENSOR\GSensor\

u can open the autoRotation and set it to 0 or theres a folder called whitelist, that contains all the programs that would autorotate i think. so if u were to delete some keys i guess it would stop rotating just those keys and keep all the other rotation put! i might be wrong. just something i thought of. let me know if it worked. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] lilchicano:
looks like i forgot to mention on my last post that i did do a task 29 before i flashed this new one on, ever since that energy rom i always try to task 29 my phone before a new flash.

and i wish it was an app that made this happened but what i always do is just play with the phone for the first time before i make any tweaks or anything so i know if an app caused something to go wrong or not, i used to think it was an mp3 tag editor that was the culprit but no it isnt.... maybe the other 23xxx build doesnt have the problem, ill test it later on today or tomorrow since im DLing a pretty big file for my sis right now.

o yeah and with the previous build i did however noticed that everytime i installed the swype cab it made my phone get stuck on the splash screen and never move on from there after like 3 soft resets from the initial installing of it. maybe its just a bad download of it or maybe they dont like to get along?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vonschau:
Hi I have tried to install 23123 xt and max and both brick my telephone had to reinstall the original ROM again hard spl is installed and I did task 29 and had many other Roms before, but not this time tried it with the sd card and with USB no sucess, what can I do?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Very strange... By "brick" do you mean that the phone is completely unresponsive after flashing 23123? Or that it doesn't even successfully boot after flashing?

Have you tried that other 7.0 -- the 23569?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alcibiade:
A few questions (more related o teh new Cookie but since it's cooked in the ROM and we have no choice but to use it...):

1. May we have a cab to get the clock with the white Background ? The previous one Valkyrie_whiteClock doesn't work with the new Cookie

2. May we have a new cab to have a Black background ? The "old" bcgforall doesnt work with the new Cookie

3. The icons in the Cookie Grid look like trapezoids, not squares. Any settings to apply somewhere ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] engfantom:
Hay agent ,

good to realase max sence version cause i love max sence i love valkyrie roms

but i am waiting the 1.04 version or 1.05 version when realase

any news when u realase that????