yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] WatermelonSlim:
The unlocked European version was released in what, June? And that October 8th date remains to be seen. AT&T has not said that it will be released on the 8th. We're all hoping it will, but that doesn't make it a fact. When was the canadian version released? I know it was a while back too...

In any case, AT&T was last by a mile on this one.

As for WM 6.5- who freaking cares? LOL! Had AT&T released it 2 months ago, we would have still got a free upgrade to WM 6.5 (assuming we never knew about cooked ROMS). Microsoft made clear that there would be a free upgrade to WM 6.5 on this phone.

As for the average consumer not knowing about it- HAH! I laugh at the notion that someone is buying a $300+ phone and yet they don't know that there is a well publicized and highly anticipated free upgrade? Come on man, that's even worse than saying the average iPhone user didn't know about the free upgrade. I mean, Windows Mobile users are FAR more tech savvy than the average iPhone user. And the average iPhone user was looking forward to their free upgrade (and bragging that they had one coming).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] godefroi:
I wonder if you could just pop a european battery cover on?

Hmm...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] godefroi:
They're behind the FIRST by a mile, but they're not LAST by a mile. If they are, then so are ALL the US carriers (and hey, I'd argue that they are...)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sklinger:
I just was in a live chat with FedEx. "Julie" assured me no signature was necessary for delivery
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] noggind614:
mine is in route for delivery as of 8:27 a.m. I'm guessing it will be here between 10:30 and 12:00 :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] doctajay:
Its getting closer!!! Set to arrive at 3 p.m PST. I have tofigure out a way to leave work to get it!

Oct 9, 2009 5:18 AM

At dest sort facility

ONTARIO, CA

Oct 9, 2009 4:46 AM

Departed FedEx location

MEMPHIS, TN

Oct 8, 2009 10:28 PM

Arrived at FedEx location

MEMPHIS, TN

Oct 8, 2009 9:28 PM

Left FedEx origin facility

MEMPHIS, TN

Oct 8, 2009 8:05 PM

Shipment information sent to FedEx

Oct 8, 2009 7:38 PM

Picked up

MEMPHIS, TN​
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RacerX10:
where did you buy ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] noggind614:
@doctajay

write a note saying that it is ok to leave it at your door or wherever because you will be at work. print your name and sign it as well. that should be enough
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sdlopez83:
Yeah, I do remember that my previous phones where left on my doorstep ordered and/or warrantied. You shouldn't have a problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] iceman4357:
+1, my fedex guy usually gets here between 10-11am. :) I will post up when I get it....and then turn around and security unlock, hard SPL and flash a ROM instantly. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RacerX10:
I just ordered on the premier line number (called it in)

$349.00 is what I was given for pricing on the phone. She didn't know if I'd get another $50.00 rebate on that or not .. I decided I didn't care.

She did NOT ask anything about my data plan, or adding data to my plan. I ordered on my wife's number that does not have data on it.

Next day shipping was $14.00, but I'm expecting it next day anyway since I'm one day shipping from Memphis. I didn't want to chance it, and I figure next day delivery is more likely to deliver on a Saturday.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] noggind614:
Just came in the mail. WHOOOOOOO HOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! :D. off to open it lol
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] WatermelonSlim:
So you guys be sure and let us know what happens with your data plans...

The guy in the other thread said he was not under dcontract and bought his Pure at the no commit price (full retail).

It took about 48 hours or so of his SIM being in the new phone for the system to detect his IMEI. But once it did, he got a text message saying his data plan had been upgraded.

I am wondering if that is why they don't ask you about your data plan anymore- because the system takes care of it automatically now...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] iceman4357:
Woohoo!!! Mine just came in 20 minutes ago!!! Charging !

PS- holy crap, 67% memory use on first boot with active sync running. CUTSOM ROM PLEASE!~!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] doctajay:
lol i hate you. Mine is still on the truck for delivery!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] venelar:
PTT button
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Pumpiron579:
@DarkDvr,

Thanks, worked like a charm. Mine is coming Tuesday for $299:):):):)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] l3it3r:
Mine was just delivered according to my email. Will be home in about 2.5 hours to play with it :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] KinoCode:
Did this show up as back ordered for any of you?

I ordered mine last night around 8:30 pm EST through the premier site, and it is now showing up in order status with quantity 1 back ordered. Did that happen to any of you? It also has SIM back ordered and FREIGHT back ordered.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bizybone:
Ordered on premier after you did. Mines on the delivery truck now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] KinoCode:
So it sounds like I got randomly screwed on this one.

Funny, I called around to some of the AT&T stores in my area before ordering on premier, one had never heard of the Tilt2 and another tried to sell me a Fuze. The third said they were allowed to sell them as soon as they got them, but had no idea when they would get any.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bizybone:
Mines here!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bhyde:
Bizy im in Atlanta and tried that but got a bg fat NO-GO. I was told it is requested to do a 1st delivery attempt. I had a friend who is also waiting and was told the same thing from FEDEX. So, i'm in the crapper because mine not scheduled to come until Monday. So i have to agonize listening to all you get yours today and have nice fresh ROM's on them by tonight...DAMMIT I'm falling into depression now...lol
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mspingeld:
If I flash a new ROM, does that change the keyboard?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bml5631:
Mine is here too!

Just delivered. I guess I take back most of the bad things I'vd said about AT&T.:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bizybone:
Sorry to hear that. I also feel bad for pulling the trigger so quick the moment i ordered mines is when other posters showing how they got theirs a lot cheaper :(

@ mspingeld I will flash now and let you know but I assume it will because all other Touch Pro 2 devices have a different HW Keyboard Layout. Should be easy to fix with a registry tweak.

And here is something I just found now, not sure if it's the same on the Fuze. But you're able to dial a number without holding the Function key. So from the Home screen I simply hit the numbers on the Hardware keypad and it dials!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] imabored:
well after calling 3 different ATT departments and doing it like 100 times, i was tired of getting the 388. price so i just called and told them to transfer me to retention.

after getting transferred, i told them i wanted to cancel all 5 of my line because verzion is selling this phone for 199 and att is selling it for 388. the guy said okay, well hold on and he went to go check some "stuff". came back and said he can give me the phone for 259.00, waived the upgrade fee, overnight shipping fee(got this because i told him i wanted to pay a part of it with an rebate card i got from att, but he said that it all has to be on ONE card, so he gave me free overnight shipping) and got an early upgrade (which i didn't needed so i put it on a line that wasn't due for an upgrade). so i got it for 259.00 with free overnight, BUT i asked him for the tracking number and he said that at that moment it was not showing up, so he gave me a confirmation number.

Now, do i just call any of the att lines and ask them for a tracking number? does anyone know how this works? thanks. i'm excited, guess patience is a virtue. :D:D:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] :
My previous response:

ATT's left me in the lurch.. My second order shows no sign of shipping - waiting from 4PM PST yesterday.. :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DarkDvr:
Sorry to hear that, but just for reference.. I ordered mine yesterday at 5PM PST and FedEx got item for shipment at 9PM. Right now it's on a truck for delivery to me.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] :
Thanks.. So how did u order? My first order (Premier, online) took 10 hrs to ship and the second (via Business, phone) is still pending...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bizybone:
Question, since I purchased the phone under my father's upgrade then that should mean the SIM card included has his number on it. If that's true then all I had to do was put my SIM card in the Tilt2 and NOT Activate.

Correct?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] d0ugie:
Congrats Iceman.

Could someone confirm that it's possible to get the AT&T keymap without any extra cabs when flashing romeos, At0mAng or any other non-AT&T-specific Rhodium roms? If so, how? If not, any keymap cabs yet? And how about using the Fuze aGPS AT&T settings cabs on Rhodium roms, if that's even necessary?

I'm not getting mine until Saturday (hopefully) but I'm working on a new website for this thing and I'd like to have this stuff ready.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] steeldragonnyc:
any pics??

Pics or video of every ones tilt 2 would be awesome.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] g2tl:
Even the updated Fuze ROM has that option, though only limited with short-click. You could also try the short_ptt and long_ptt trick

Does anyone have comparison pics b/w the tilt 2 and another brand of touch pro 2? I really want to know whether the tilt 2 really is thinner
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RedDawg22:
Just to give everyone a heads up, the status of my order never changed from "processing" until after my Tilt 2 was delivered today! I even put in a call this morning asking why, and she said it was still processing. I went home for lunch, and there was my phone on my doorstep!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DarkDvr:
the sex:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] starstreak:
Two questions for those with the ATT phone already.

1) Does it really come with MS voice command?

a) When you get a chance, enable BT and see if when someone calls you, the MSVC says the person's number or name.

2) What GPS software will you install? TT or iGo or something?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] d0ugie:
I'm not sure we're on the same page. I'm not asking about mapping buttons like PTT, I just want to know what to tell people with AT&T phones when they flash a rom made by someone with a phone of a different keymap (the hard keyboard) whether the rom will automatically detect the keymap and that's it, if a cab is required, something with advancedconfig or the settings or tools area and if it's standard for all roms. I don't have my phone yet but when I do I want to hit the ground running and have a decent site ready, this being the most important thing as I like to pressure people to flash custom roms.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RedDawg22:
I can just answer #1...Yes, it comes with MS voice command.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] d0ugie:
And if it comes with msvc (or csvd), which version, which version of Opera, info like that would be helpful. Along with the radio number.

Thanks fellas.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] l3it3r:
I just took a butt load of photos for FuzeMobility/MobilityDigest.com

Here's a sneak peak
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] :
Hmm and is this any better? Voice command's never worked properly for me..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] steeldragonnyc:
Thanks for the pics... Congrats

Fantastic device.... I have to wait since im not a premiere subscriber
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Jola66:
Im getting ready to go home and open mine.

I hope there are some cases out there for this now. I want to protect it when I can. If anyone finds any good cases, post them here somewheres
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DarkDvr:
I've had good luck with Target. They have really nice and inexpensive camera cases that fit my Fuze perfectly.. I bet they have something for TP2 as well.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DarkDvr:
I'm not either. I'm just an average Joe. Read this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=569141
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bhyde:
Me too, I purchased on the 6th using the PreLaunch link to Premier. So not only do i still not have it, i paid more than most to rub salt in the wounds...:mad:

But i'm glad for you guys though and pissed at my employer :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Brickcity:
Who else think Verizon has a better Price, Phone and Service?

1-yr Contract

Retail Price	$369.99

1-yr Contract Price	$279.99

Promotion Credit	-100.00

Final Price	$179.99 :eek:

Retail Price	$299.99

2-yr Contract Price	$249.99

Promotion Credit	-$100.00

Final Price	$149.99

I want the HD2 next so the Verizon 1-yr deal looks good to me.

I know it's sold out! But I can wait:cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] :
Can you confirm what you are saying? Where is this Promo mentioned?

HTC Touch Pro2 PDA/Smartphone

No Contract Price	$489.99

2-yr Contract Price	$299.99

Online Discount	- $100.00

Your Price	$269.99

Out of Stock

http://shop.verizonwireless.com/?id=HTC+Touch+Pro2+PDA/Smartphone
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Brickcity:
If your job gives you a discount this is the price!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Toleraen:
Anyone run HardSPL on this thing yet? Mine's all charged up and ready to go, but the AT&T ROM is crawling!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Scrog:
Done, run this cab: http://hpcmonex.net/roms/enablerapinew.cab

Just need to figure out the keyboard thing (function key, shift key) need to map to att
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RacerX10:
How long did it take for those of you ordering on Premier to get tracking numbers emailed to you ?

I ordered about 9 AM this morning and haven't received one yet.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] KinoCode:
Did you check your order status? I ordered mine late last night and the order status now says back ordered. I wonder if they ran out of phones...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RacerX10:
I'm not able to log in to the web site on my account. I'll just call and check.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Jamon723:
I've had my tilt for 2 yrs & have been following every tilt/htc site/forum for 2 months waiting for this. When I found last week my wait would be over on the 8th I was stoked. Had a rep on at AT&T on the 7th even tell me to check back in the morning. 7am on the 8th it's not there. Checked every 15 min or so online & spent 2 hrs combined with 3 different sales reps. Nothing. I was so aggrovated today. Then I saw this post. Followed your instructions, even said I found them on a forum (didn't divulge specifics). Said I didn't want to be a pain but it seemed that people were buying it already & I wanted to be one of those people. Voila. $288.99 later (+ I will be mailing in that rebate form for the extra $50) I have a Tilt 2 on the way. Thank You for making my day.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] drpal181:
I gave up looking and i will have to wait another two weeks. Every store i visit had a different story from "next mon" to "since were a big at store, we are the last to know". The only positive store that could get it on the 8, I would have to pay the retail price since my upgrade is not till november.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] doctajay:
this phone is amazing. i love it!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] emilware_v1.1:
tilt 2

just got mine today. is sweet. i love it. now i just have to take out all the att crap.

does any one know how?

is it just like with old tilt, to hard reset and then softreset before starts up?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RacerX10:
I just called them since I hadn't received tracking info via email .. the guy on the phone knew my tracking number though. No idea why they haven't emailed it.

Anyway, it looks like they don't do Saturday delivery here in my area (!@#$!#@?) so I guess I'll be receiving on Monday.

3 days to say goodbye to Tilt 1 :)

Shipment Dates

Ship date

Oct 9, 2009

Estimated delivery

Oct 12, 2009 by 3:00 PM

Destination

RUSSELLVILLE, AR
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sdlopez83:
Same here but do they deliver on columbus day?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] l3it3r:
guess so...

So.. anyone flash their Tilt II yet? I can't decide on a ROM.. lol
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DarkDvr:
Glad it worked for you =) That's what XDAdevs is for :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] :
:mad:

B@#* Fools. Order finally shipped this afternoon. Overnight, but no sat delivery - after some choice words with ATT, they called Fedex and asked them to attempt a Saturday delivery ($15 more, billed ATT).

Fedex just called me - IF :( the package reaches my city on Sat, IF :( they can unload the container IF :( they can sort it out, and IF :( they can do all this before loading the trucks for morning delivery, they will do a Sat delivery - aka Fedex is saying Sorry..

Probably a Monday delivery.. :mad:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DarkDvr:
You know we're all here like expecting mothers. We need pregnancy (read: TP2-waiting) courses... gotta learn to breathe right, how to cope with extra day on delivery.. etc..

P.S: anybody got any cravings yet? Or being pissy?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RacerX10:
I'm sure they do or it wouldn't have a scheduled delivery date of Monday. I don't think most business take that day off .. just a government holiday.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] PRTEQ:
Where or how do you get the fedex tracking number? I only have the at&t Order status report but it only says In progress...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] buffalosolja42:
18th for non-premier customers

I can order it on premier but now that I have saw the leo info, and I will wait and get it on 18th for alot cheaper online somewhere
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rock_drummer08:
Way to bypass the 30 dollar change of plan?

Has anybody fiqured out a way to bypass the 30 dollar change of plan? I have been a media net unlimited customer for going on 3 years now, and I really dont want to change that. I was hearing about how it took 2 yrs for att to text you about the automatic change. I was thinking, what about when you first get the device if you unlock it, hard spl, than add a cooked room onto the decive would it be a way to bypass it? I really dont care to have all the bootware on there anyways. Or would it be better to by a tmobile one unlock it than do it that way? Any opinions would be great!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] buffalosolja42:
won't work

they still can read imei on device and then they will change you to the 30 plan:( if the phone was purchased through att and used with att
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rock_drummer08:
so if I bought a tmobile one unlocked it than hardspl it. You can still put on rhodium roms on it, to make it work with the att network. Because there is people now who use the rapheal rom who have tmobile.

Also there is people who have connections on ATT on here, who have numerous times in the past changed your PDA plan back to the media net plan for free if you send them your info.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] imabored:
if you get an tmobile one and unlock it you can use it on att but you won't get 3g also i do not think att will put you on the data plan because i don't believe the tmobile one is in their system as i think they only know the IMEI from their OWN phones that they sell or that is att branded. not sure though if someone knows please tell us.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DarkDvr:
If u buy through the line that I posted, they promise not to touch your line.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rock_drummer08:
bands for att and tmobile

acording to the specs of att tilt 2 and tmobile touch pro 2

att tiilt 2 band :

850/900/1800/1900 MHz (GSM/GPRS/EDGE);

tmobile touch pro 2 band:

850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz

both of the bands are exactly the same, and when you flash one of NRG's roms, it asks you what service you have. You can select att, than volia you have 3G technology.

"We know that US T-mobile utilizes the 1700Mhz and 2100Mhz band for their 3G network."

source: http://wmpoweruser.com/?tag=touch-pro-2

and the 3g band on att:

850/1900/2100 MHz (HSDPA/UMTS)*

so it seems like it would work!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rock_drummer08:
there is people quoting somewhere on the xda developers forums that even though they did not agree to the new data change, they got a text from att saying they automaticly changed it.. is that not true?

than why is this man saying it got automaticly changed? I guess we will have to wait untill this weekend when everyone gets there phones to see what happens?

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?p=13090202#post13090202
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] princeasi:
check this out!!! http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009...smartphone-data-plans-starting-september-6th/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DarkDvr:
Read this -> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=569637

They did something wrong, or authorized it, or who knows what.

I just got my new Rhodium with new 2yr contract, I'm paying $19/mo for unlim data. Was paying for 4 years and will pay for next 2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DarkDvr:
Well, people will prolly believe BGR and not me.. But, I believe AT&T more than I believe BGR.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] JoeWilcox:
Man I'm pretty fed up with AT&T. I ordered by Tilt2 using the info provided here at 9:20am Friday morning. Was told everything was good to go, I chose Saturday FedX and should get it later today.

Then nothing. No confirmation email. The Order Status Site says "In Progress" and "Back-Ordered". 3 calls to the number again first told me I'm not in the system, then it can take 24-48 hours to process. I'm so sick of this.

If I don't get the phone tomorrow, it's bye-bye AT&T, hello T-Mobile. Down side, I have to switch providers, up side.. much better keyboard.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ZzFDKzZ:
Damn my phone is only 10 mins away but I need to wait till Monday. And yes Fedex does deliver on Columbus day.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] PRTEQ:
Go pick it up ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DarkDvr:
They will let you pick it up unless it's on a truck for delivery, or they are closed.

I've done that before =)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Silverexp:
I’ve ordered several times thru the web & some with overnight. Usually will receive the confirmation email the day you order it, but shipping info doesn’t get emailed and updated until the shipment day on next day delivery. That’s even on orders I’ve done before 12pm.

Wonder why we didn’t get to see a Tilt2 rom from Incognito this go around???
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mspingeld:
Although both phones have 2100MHz, ATT doesn't use it, only 1900 & 850 and they're going more to the 850. 3G wouldn't work.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] :
Nice tip - i could have tried this if the package reached San Diego. Fedex kept the phone in Memphis overnight :( :( This after ATT asked them to do a Saturday delivery. :mad: :mad: hopefully the phone will get to SD in time for a monday delivery.