yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vgomez916:
well after a few hours with a 8mb page pool using v9.8 i do got to say this rom rocks. it is fast very responsive all menu and apps are opening quickly no lag in Manila or in start menu. even after full setup the way i like and running full load stable with very high ram. been using lots of apps and surfing online and without any reboots and still haven't gone below 102mb of ram. this is very good. will test till tomorrow if i find any slow downs after installing a bunch of apps and running them then ill try 12mb page pool. as of now im sold:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wildfxp:
Thanks for the update. I'm going to go straight to 12MB PP in about 20minutes and I'll test around :)

Maybe you can try 14mb lol :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wildfxp:
Testing 12mb now, but I'm going to mess with it for a day before I give the results.

As of now, manilla is still a bit sluggish :(

note: I forgot to mention that I went down to about 35-40MB ram left today using the ROM with original pool settings :( I didn't even power use it, lol.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mutantblack:
I am not sure. Its working fine for me but I am on AT&T.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mutantblack:
what progam do you use to change the pagepool? I am very new to the pagepool.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wildfxp:
Here you go, http://www.mediafire.com/?qfjiyy5gmez

Basically the CustomRUU file in there is not needed. Just open up the Page Pool exe and select the .nbh (ROM file).

It will then tell you the Page Pool MB (6MB), so change it to what you want. Then change it and it'll be "READY" in 1sec. Select the .nbh file again and you will see it shows your new settings.

:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] zelendel:
Yes it does, 3G is what allows you to use both at the same time
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mutantblack:
ahh. very helpful. Thanks. I will play with it once I get back home.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mutantblack:
I am switching between cellpro and nrg phoenix just like russ.

Man so hard to choose between these two roms.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vgomez916:
8mb page pool still going strong installed about 20 apps and about 15 games and rom is very responsive and stable feels better than v9.0 sync,exchange all good. also make sure you remove interceptor file from startup folder if running v9.8 to stop jumpy screen. i also disable vibrate from Manila and dialer for better battery life. 99mb ram still with out reboot
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vgomez916:
i run both cellpro and nrg also. i got two tp2 phones so i can test both:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wildfxp:
Ahhh no wonder, you're running 9.8 :) I'm testing Evo 4 right now.

Anyways, how do you disable the vibrate for Manila and dialer? I never knew you could do that :D

As a matter of fact, please share your other tweaks/cabs ;)

Thanks!

p.s. I wish Evo 4 used less ram :) I'm down to 75-80MB ram left really quick.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vgomez916:
for manila go to settings-system-touch options then uncheck.

for dialer use PHM regedit

Change the following registry Key to stop Dial Pad vibration.

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\PHONE\PhoneExtendSetting]

"KeyPadVibration=DWORD:000000”

just change the value to 000000 then reboot
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Trezona:
I have changed my PP to 30 :)

And this 9.8 rom is flying....... :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] contentryder:
9.8 ATT version please?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jackass100:
i have 2 questions:

what's the diference between normal and att versions

and does pro version has got landscape mode, if not when we can expect version with lanscape mode?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DJayRage:
Check several pages back, there won't be an ATT version since the only major difference is the dialer and the keyboard (you can install that seperately).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
Both the PRO and EVO versions discussed on this thread are manila/sense 2.1 so landscape is supported by default.

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
PP sizing experiment

Once you guys are done experimenting with the page pool size on PRO and EVO let me know and I will get with Sergio to change it in the build.

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pumpiron579:
I changed mine with the pp changer too 20pp and find it a lot quicker. With the smaller lite roms I do 26pp.

I think the default OEM roms are 15pp
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] joeqr:
i set 32 mb for pp and it is unbelieveble! even leo roms are fast and smooth.

edit:

tried with 64 mb pp, but there is no significant difference.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jcrompton:
Pagepool and Next Build

Don't mind changing the pp myself but if you are asking - I'd say at least 16mb for a starting point.

Any idea when the next build will be uploaded ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pumpiron579:
I gotta try that. I hought 26pp was high.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vgomez916:
still running v9.8 since yesterday at 8mb page pool still no reboot rom is very stable and fast. lowest ram so far 98mb very good ram. did a clean ram level 2 right now back to 103mb ram with no reboot and no freezing apps are loading fast and Manila running flawless.thats my report for now.

staying at 8mb page pool until i run in to a prob:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gorgeousyousuf:
Hello Russ,

How can use Energy's new 2010 bar colors(both top and bottom bars)?

I hate the pure black one .It seems as if the screen is narrow and unsuitable with he manilla.Hope you help me find different colored bar styles and the way to apply it.Thanks from now.

Note:I meant with 6.5 essential version(not 6.5.3)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
Since NRG reports his top and bottom bars are 'custom' the only way you could use those specific icons would be to take his ROM apart and extract them. A slightly easier was to do it would be to find alternate bars you like in CAB form. Personally I use Sergio's Dark Theme which features the BEST clock I have seen on a Manila screen and some very nice Icons.

Give that a go, if you don't like it go to the themes and applications page and search for icons.

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gorgeousyousuf:
Thank you for quick response Russ.I just flashed to Energy rom and extracted cabbed files to my storage card and now turning back to cell pro 9.8 again.Hope it will work perfect.

By the way I will also give darktheme a try.

Thank you
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jackass100:
only one question:

why or how can i install your rom on windows 7? even grey window doesn't show...help
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pnxsinned:
First impression, very nice ROM, very smooth, very much RAM, just great. The only thing what I came accross is at the moment the facebook shortcut on manilla internet tab, and going to find a way to fix that, I remember some registry where you can setup these things, correct? going to search! will keep you guys posted!

Ok, after some puzzling I found the manilla file where you can edit the shortcuts in, XML format. As attachment I created one, with Only the youtube shortcut, and removed the facelink shortcut in it, which adds room for one more push page. You need to copy this file into your windows folder using Total Commander, after that don't forget to softreset!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wildfxp:
ok, so far i have been about 13 hours into evo4 with a PP of 12mb.

all i can say is it is highly stable! i installed many different cabs after and the ram stayed at about 85-90mb free.

now at this time, i have only 40mb ram free, but it is still running quick and stable.

i heavy used the phone with IE downloading and opera surfing. i also had palringo running as well. this dropped the ram to around 65mb.

i have heard from "kwill" that the higher the pp, the less apps you can install afterwards. i still need to install a few spb apps and gps, but i may try out 16 mb if some of you are stating going up to 26mb

my favoritie fastest rom, athineos, is only 12mb pp, but was super quick with a lot of leftover ram after heavy usage and apps installed. i dont know how b16b does it, lol. however, sergio's roms have been stable with every update.

hope this helps you russ.

p.s. i have not used cleanram yet. i want to see how the rom works after dropping to 20-30mb left

p.s.s - i also received 2 calls in the middle of surfing forums. the only problem was when a call was coming in, the screen doesnt pop up, but it could be i cant wait for more than 2 rings. after picking up, the screen shows perfectly. i then go on speaker and surf the net while talking :) no noticeable slowdown!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] utmoose:
is this true b/c i might have to reinstall this rom with a smaller pp?

thanks for the awesome rom btw
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] lanor:
I'm running EVO4 for one and a half day now (pp 15mb) and it's as stable as EVO3 and IMHO a little more eye candy. :)

So far, I have only one bug to report.

As you can see on the screenshot below, "My Wallpapers" (Settings Tab / Wallpaper) isn't aligned correctly. Does anyone know how to fix this?

Thanks.

Lanor
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
Glad you like the ROM. :)

On the facebook shortcut, you can change the registry to point to www.facebook.com but Sergio's intention was to have that link launch the facebook application.

He plans an interim release (PRO 9.8.1 and EVO 4.1) sometime this evening that will address facebook.

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sblindheim:
Have you updated/installed this?

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/downloads/microsoft/device-center-download.mspx

-Sblindheim
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
@jackass100,

Before you live up to your screen name and make complete ass of yourself, please read this thread.

It will provide all the guidance necessary to flash a ROM.

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
I noticed this as well, Sergio will have to address it in the next release.

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pnxsinned:
Managed to removed it to give room for another pushpage :D I have made a zip file with the modificated manilla file :) Thnx for pointing it out tho, im very happy having this ROM! works flawlessly till now :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
Well sort of, the phone has a limited amount of memory. So the larger the PP gets the less space is available to load applications to main memory. You can load applications to your SD card and so long as you don't remove it they will run there just fine.

The trick is to find a good balance between performance and available memory.

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tofferbear:
Heya Russ...

Just tried to install the V6 Dark Theme and it failed because it wasn't digitally signed...I searched for that in the theme thread but didn't see any results...any idea what's going on?

Just so you know ahead of time, the only thing I've done is set the PP to 32 before flashing the rom...other than that it's completely unmodified.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tofferbear:
Doh...nevermind, I just found this post. Funny how the "Search Thead" feature didn't dig it up when I searched for "digitally signed". Hmmm
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dragonlord785:
Thanks Russ. I'm sorry I didn't do the search like I should have. Thanks for having the patience to answer the question anyway.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jackass100:
great rom!!!I've tried all NRG roms and they stay behind yours. I miss 2 things from his roms and it would be great to see in your next rom documents tab and music tab mode when you switch screen-then apears all albums. BEST ROM FOR RODIUM EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
Thanks for the Kudos! Sergio is a great Chef, which is why I am here and not on NRG's thread.

Not quite following what you are looking for; the documents tab on Manila/Sense 2.1 is coming in a later release, but the album view is a standard Sense 2.1 music player view. See the attached screen shot.

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tofferbear:
Send Key is blank

Think I dug up a new bug...

So with Evo 4 and Dark Theme v5.1 when I go to send a text message the send soft key is just a button with no graffics or text on it...just a blank square.

I'm not talking about the HTC message app where the send is on the right hand side and is not a softkey...I'm talking about the built in WM message app where the left soft key is send and the right softkey is menu.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tofferbear:
Oh...not only that but if you take one step back that softkey turns into a red X but doesn't have the behavior of the close red X that is all the way on the right hand side of the screen. It has the normal behavior as if you're selecting a message to view...

I'm actually seeing similar symtoms all over the place...it's making me think I did something wrong in applying the theme as I have a hard time Serg would release anything with this many graphical glitches...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
Toffer my friend, please read back a few pages on the dark theme and you will find my comments that Dark 5.1 doesn't work so good with 6.5.3 ROMs AND the 6.5.3 version of Dark doesn't work at all.

So, the graphic glitches are well documented and Sergio promised me he would resolve the Dark 6.5.3 issues today. I have dark 5.1 loaded on EVO4 and just live with the icon issues. I know what the buttons do. :)

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tofferbear:
Doh...that's what I get for not reading the thread over the weekend. *sigh* Yup...I'm living with it as well, just making sure it was mentioned. I should have known you'd be on top of it before me. ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hixmatt:
A Couple Questions..

I have noticed two issues, that are more than likely NOT ROM related, but thought I'd post to see if anyone else had experienced these same problems:

1) My Location randomly resets clock to two hours earlier than actual time. When it does this, calendar appointments shift as well, as if time zone had changed. If you click on clock on home screen, change to a city in correct time zone, hit back, click clock again, then My Location shows correct time, not the two hours off. I'm not anywhere near a time zone line, so I don't get this. Never tried any other ROM's than Sergio's, so I can't comment about any other My Location experiences.

2) Outlook contacts sync and every birthday and anniversary I have entered shows up one day earlier than actual. When I go to desktop outlook, the dates are correct, so I know my Exchange server has these data stored correctly, but the sync to phone always puts the dates one day off. If I correct one on phone and sync, nothing happens to data on desktop/server, so it leads me to believe theres something going on with Outlook Mobile. If I remember correctly, I had this issue on stock ROM as well.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Matt
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] marscandybars:
I was having this problem too with the time and location. The minutes are correct but the hour is off. It seems theres something up with the time zones in this rom. Cuz when i set it to -8, it is still off. When i reverted back to Evo 3 it worked fine. I tried Evo 4 twice to try to get the right time, but still not working for me. Even when i manually put it at -8 timezone the hour is off. Hopefully someone knows how to fix this or maybe it will be back to normal again for the next rom.

My dates on the calendar on the other hand sync normally.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
Clock sync issue

Matt & Mars,

Are you both in GMT -8? I am in GMT -5 and haven't seen this issue. My clocks are correct and the only birthday I have in my exchange is synced correctly to mobile outlook. The only thing I have seen that is time related is that when I first loaded EVO4 (EVO 3 did the same BTW) the time zone was -5 GMT Indiana vs -5 GMT Eastern. So, I am wondering if you are both in the same time zone if there is some correlation.

Has anyone else besides you two seen an issue with the clock being off?

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] guntcent:
email tab

hey guys does the v9.8 emailed tab fully lay out like the leo rom just like energys rom
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
Administrative announcement

Just to keep everyone aware, I will be on travel for the next 3 days, with limited opportunity to keep up with the forum. If you have something you really want me to look into please PM me and I will respond when I get back to the hotel. Otherwise I will be back late Thursday evening.

later all!

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jcrompton:
Update

@ Russ741

Are we still expecting Sergio to upload an update this PM or is going to be later?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jcrompton:
Radio

Also @ Russ

How long you been using the newer radio? You like it it or can you tell any difference over the long haul?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
I spoke to Sergio around noon Eastern and he said he would be on here 'later' given that it is 0300 his time, I don't think it is reasonable to believe he will post tonight. I do know he is off work tomorrow (Tuesday) and may do so then.

I switched to .57 after a string of reports that .17 had GPS issues in Southern California and .57 didn't. I travel a lot and need the GPS to work no matter where I am. The long haul report is I can't tell any difference at all but I won't be back in SoCal for another 2 weeks...

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] marscandybars:
Yes I am on GMT -8. Evo 3 did it at the beginning but fixed itself with location. Evo 4 did it at the beginning, but after location it readjusted to the correct date, has the minutes right, but the hour off. I went back to Evo 3 then noticed it was working. Then i tried Evo 4 for a second time thinking that the time issue was a fluke, and it still didn't work. So then of course i went back to Evo 3 and its working like a charm. Thoughts?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
Are you asking if the Manila/Sense 2.1 email preview is 2D vs 3D? or flat vs angled? If that is your question then it is 3D and angled, I just checked NRG's thread and NO, Sergio's 9.8 does not look like that.

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
Thoughts? Yeah, I think my brain hurts... :rolleyes:

This sounds very much like the issue with the .17 radio and GPS not working in California, but only in California. I see you two have different radios, so the radio may not be the issue. Of course it could be that the cell systems in California are all confused, much like the residents.. oh sorry thinking out loud again. :eek::D

Seriously, it must be something in the ROM if EVO3 works but EVO4 doesn't. i will have to refer this up to Sergio as only he knows what he changed between the two. I know he made some changes because the voice mail connection number issue was resolved in EVO4.

I will be in Texas tomorrow, I will check to see if my clock suddenly goes haywire.

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rwcozens:
Been running v 9.8 for a few days now and also changed pp to 20 which has really increased performance of this rom. Great rom Sergio and thanks Russ for all of your input and support.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] marscandybars:
Give me a heads up. I like Evo 4 but the time was definitely a bit of a bummer. I'm on the latest Radio 4.49.25.88 as of now. Working like a charm with Evo 3.

There are definitely a couple of radios that arent California friendly. Pages and Pages back i was complaining that I had a problem getting google maps to work inside my apartment. Didn't pick up a location until i went about 20 miles toward Downtown los angeles. Changed the radio and no longer having any location temporarily unavailable issues. So from the looks of it theres seems to be something that changed between Evo 3 and 4 that is throwing off my time.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
Your're welcome, I have flagged Sergio to increase the PP sizing on both PRO and EVO.

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
I agree that having your clock correct is really rather important, it is odd that you were having radio related issues and now have time issues. Since both the time and Google location services come from your local cell tower. I will work with Sergio and see what we can come up with.

later...

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wildfxp:
I have another update :)...Evo4

I went down to 32MB Ram left earlier with the 14MB PP, but the phone responded still quickly and I was receiving calls perfectly fine. I have not had any other ROM function the same after dropping under 50MB of RAM left.

@Russ - Will Serg have fixes for the problems on Evo4 in cab files? or will it be a new ROM file?

I just want to know if I should just keep the ROM on my phone or wait for a fix. Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] marscandybars:
I should have clarified :-p. When i had radio issues, i had time issues cuz it wouldn't sync whatsoever cuz it couldn't find my location until i went into downtown los angeles. Once i got a location fix it was perfect. But the issue now is that i am getting a location fix (and its correct), just the time isn't.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] skipper86:
I have had similar problems with clocks on different roms, cannot be fixed through the clock on Sense, but if I go into settings, clocks and alarms, and set it there, it works just fine. Don't know if that is the issue here, but thought I would put it out there just in case.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] titan427m:
whoa whoa whoa

Okay, where did this whole PP discussion come from and how can i play with mine? lol

seriously though, how can i toy with this setting? im eager to make adjustments :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] titan427m:
Evo 4 Radio

Just flashed the new Evo v4 and im using the .17 radio here in central California...no clock or weather/region problems for me
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dedomraz:
9.8 Problem

When i flash 9.8 then i have problem with Sense its too slowly. Perhaps i click on Communications its opening 30 seconds :-(((

Please help me.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gorgeousyousuf:
Hello everyone.hope Russ or anyone of you help me solve some design issues.

i am using v9.8 right now

first,i want to have same bg in all tabs in manila.i tried a number of cabbed files but none of them worked perfectly.the one which was the closest to the perfection has clock related problem.it does not allow you to slide the clock down and up again.but seems working without it.please help me

and the next is,i want my top and bottom bars semi transparent and find good looking .tsk themes for my bars to seem better.

once i get these two problems solved,i will be almost %100 pleased to use this rom.

thanks for your help from now.