[Touch HD General] precsmo:
ridiculous! you said you are new here, and yet you have begun with a post that not only not bringing any good to anyone here, but making anyone who are inexperience with these devices in the market being confused! Why are you giving so impulsive comments? And most of your opinions seems just irrelevant and just too personal to yourself!

1) Hardware compatible with Windows Mobile 7 (on paper, because the WM7 specs are not really official) but no official support for the future (ok, I know it will be unofficially possible, but this hurts to my nerves). Where is the support a company should give to an high-end customer?

has anyone of us expecting any devices any brand any companies at all to commit any current wm phones to be future proof with WM7 which has not even out yet? are you expecting too far?

2) 65K colors screen. Not important what people says. We're in 2010. And yes, the difference is visible. I'm not complaining about the lack of an AMOLED technology here, but hey, you can't have everything. But for that price, I expect *at least* 256K colors. Probably WM 6.5 doesn't support more colors than that, but hey... Something future proof? :p

if the HD2 is given 256k, it is a huge bonus, but what is wrong with 65k? will you be able to differentiate the difference? Who are you to give such firm comment without any direct comparison? the current HD already has hugely impressive screen in the market, it is one of the best screen, if not the best, you are expecting more?

3) HSUPA 2Mbit is old. Operators are approaching 5.76Mbps soon if not tomorrow.

dream on! I don't blame any HTC phones without it? or have you heard a device with such bandwidth capable yet? And why expecting HD2 to have such irrelevant expectation??

4) No built-in front camera. No video call, no skype, no voip applications.

you should be happy that many will agree with you here, in fact, I feel so disappointed and frustrated of what is goin on with HTC really not including a front camera, ridiculous, HTC!!!! What happened!!! the cameras ran out of stock for the HD2 prototype? why didn't you ask me for one?

6) Really bad photos and videos (come on, a low-end sensor can do more).

not really bad to me at all for a high end phone, expecting more? why not get a dedicated camera? I've been just a little annoyed of how sluggish the camera works for current touch hd, but not the quality. I'm satisfied with it even though the fact that it is true that the quality is not stunning, but really not a show stopper here right?

7) Poor Java support (HTC should really learn from SonyEricsson here). A "smart" phone should really approach at least a good MIDP / CLDC support. I won't ask for CDC specs, here, because I know they won't give us half satisfaction in this area. The problem is the world is approaching MIDP 3.0 and smart phones have no more things to laugh too much of Java ME.

not so sure here. and i don't find it a problem to me

8) "Features the "new" SnapDragon 1Ghz from Qualcomm". So new it's produced in 2007. I hate marketing claims. The mobile market is so different from computers. They sell an almost 3 years old processor and they claim it's new. Wow.

why did you care so much of how long has since this chipset existed? have you ever seen a phone device that is powered more than 625mhz since these years?? I've been always thought mobile devices were being stucked at 625 forever! and wow, the future is now! and wow, you are complaining it that HTC is claiming these " you so called it 3 years old" chipset as new? It is not the matter of new or old, it is about the possibility of using a faster processors. i was astonished to see the HD2 as second device in the market using raw 1ghz processor!

9) No SDKs, no access to proprietary APIs. Developer support completely absent. The site http://developer.htc.com is a joke. They call it "Developer Center" with three kernel sources and 2 links?

not sure bout this and not been realizing this as a problem at all. not sure really, anyway.

10) No TV-Out. My dream of doing some presentations with the built-in office mobile is gone.

well, you decide if it is show stopper. I don't need this and it doesn't affect me choosing it.

If this is the "high end" series from HTC I have no words.... :(

Concluding, the real nice features are the capacitive screen with multitouch (but not having Windows Mobile 7 is somewhat limited), the HTC Sense and what else? For 600/650€ (the price I found here in Europe) I expected way more than this, frankly. Lot of hype but analyzing the specs I don't find anything exciting, apart eye candy and secondary things. Sense is great, but a good "high end" phone needs real specs, not only great GUI effects for teen agers showcases at the bar. Effectively, this is the perfect iPhone clone: tons of eye-candy built with tons of limitations. :

expecting windows mobile 7??? anyone? am I dreaming or I'm too slow to catch up?? do you really have good experience with wm??? I'm not sure about myself, but what gives me an obvious impression of having using any wm devices were the sluggishness through these years. did you have good experience to the current touch hd? well no matter how fast any one claims about the best cooked rom being much faster or whatever so, i still feel the sluggishness, but i knew that wm have brought million of users worldwide of its usefulness, and i never treat it as a huge problem, i just love wm device. and yet you are complaining the hd2 is nothing exciting? this is strange, most of us here found that we are hell freakingly excited with HD2? The moment i saw the video demos, i already feel that HD2 is final the future and answer of wm today. it is so fast and responsive!!

and many has been complaining about the processor benchmarking data??? come on guys, why needing a graphic accelerator with 1ghz processor? look at the readings again, come on! other than graphic performance, it is more then a time faster than any other device in the market. and graphic performance? yes, indeed it shows some degrade performance right away comparing to other benchmarking departments, but look at the readings again, it doesn't actually fall back much to the fastest graphic accelerated devices! come on, what is so much to complain about? and lesser chipset means lesser burden to the battery ok. and look at the current touch hd graphic performance, hd2 so much more efficient dealing with graphics and it is getting close to devices with graphic accelerated.

the conclusion is, there is hardly any so called high end wm phones is for you at the moment, please stay on and wait for some other years.