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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] djcedric:
+/- 100 lines but i don't send lots of sms and don't call much...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] djcedric:
now wvga and on the layout,the upper right corner,the line is a little bit too short to make the corner like on the left,maybe its your choice its possible?:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] euromusic:
so much work that you do in just 3 hours.

will try the new 0.07 but maybe you can add a collumn which shows if you sent or recieved the message becausi i sent a message to 0479...... and i recieved a message from 0479...... but it isn't verry clear if i recieved or sent it :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] euromusic:
the twice stuff is fixed and i like it :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mike2nl:
It will be great when this app will work for

other providers too. As sample for the dutch

KPN. When you need more information, please

ask me. Possible i can help....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] euromusic:
if you want this on your provider, your provider needs to have online XML API files ... our provider (mobile vikings) has these files and people made apps on the iphone and on android for it. if you check some off the previous posts you can see we gave him the xml content for our number so he made an app of it. so check whit your provider if he has xml files. if you want a preview the lins to the other xml files but you will need a mobile vikings username and password.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] n3tfusion:
Hello,

What sort of informations can you provide me ?

euromusic made a great reply about what i need :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] n3tfusion:
I've done that in the 0.08, in 2 ways :

1) for SMS :

Just put a "<" for "<--" sent and ">" for "-->" received before the phonenumber, it's not very clear but, it's better than nothing..

2) for Voice :

Instead of all data in 1 single line, i've put the data on 2 lines, first with number and time, the second with date and price

And in front of the first line, i've put an arrow icon ( |> or <| )

It's a sort of pool, so, i'm waiting for yours opinions..

If i got good feedback, i'll do (2) in the 4 history, else, back to (1)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] djcedric:
Nice interface,Thanks!!!full info available,i like it ;)works fine
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] euromusic:
super, everything works perfect (except the TopUp feature) Nice idea for the TopUp.

also tested it on QVGA an it works (you can add that to the first post :p)

maybe you can add a news page in the app that fetches the news from the MobileVikings website. Because i check the news frequently :) (just an idea)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] n3tfusion:
Thanks for your feedback !

Any comment about the voice history ?

Do you prefer the listing 2line (like voice history) or the single line (sms,data,mms) ?

Thanks you too for your feedback ! i'll add the qvga compatibily too !

Same question, what's your preference between 1line and 2line history ?

The news, at this url : http://mobilevikings.com/news/ ?

I don't know if it's a useful idea, because there are news only about 2times a month, so i don't want to refresh and parse the news everytimes you check your history/infos..

I will think about it later, but it's cleary not on my top priority list :)

But, thanks for the idea !

Oh yeah, i've tested the phone number replacement by contact's name, it's work great, but.. it seems very, very slow..

If you have an history with 3 or 4 differents phone number, it can work not so slowly, but if you have 10 or 15 or 20 numbers, it can take a while..

May be there is another solution, i don't know.. For now, i must compare the phonenumber with all contact's numbers..

So, again, if you have a big list of contact, it may take a long long time..

If anybody have a idea.. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] djcedric:
I like it like it is,voice history is nice and single line history too :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wouterdevinck:
Alternative for this app

I'm very sorry, but why do applications for Windows Mobile always have to be that ugly?

I have build my own app that does the same as this one, it is available on:

http://www.wouterdevinck.net/mv

Features:

* Balance

* Call history (for any given date and linked to the Pocket Outlook address book)

* Top-up history

* Available in Dutch, French and English (auto adopts the language of your phone, that's why the screenshots are in Dutch :))

* Kinetic scrolling (yes, even with the bounce effect...), beautiful icons, ...

* Tested on VGA, WVGA, QVGA and WQVGA

The first version has been around since august, the second since today.

Comments are welcome on my blog, it is not my intention to hijack this thread :).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] euromusic:
maybe n3tfusion can make his app better than your app :p

how is the speed of the apps compared to each other? :)

edit: His app crashes on my phone :p (htc touch pro) so I'l stay with n3tfusion's app

ps: n3tfusion: 2 line history is perfect
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] n3tfusion:
Thanks you euromusic.. :)

I've made an better version, its' ready now !

New Features :

*Manila Looks like interface ! [ Thanks to michyprima sdk !]

* Topup History

* Auto-Update ( choose between 5-10-15-30min-1h-2h-3h)

I was working on the new UI for some days ,but when i saw the other app , i try to hurry up :D

Hum, the old 2lines stuff is "gone", now it's 2 line but with more space and a better text spacing.. You will see.. I hope you'll prefer that to the old 2 line.. :D

So, i'm waiting for a feedback from you ( and from djcedric too of course :] ).

If anyone have an suggestion/idea about what can be improved, i'll be glad to hear it !
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] n3tfusion:
Yes, you can be sorry, what's your problem man ?! :mad:

It's a Community Forum here, where peoples shares knowledges and so on..

Have you even read this thread?! From the beginning, i'm building this app from scratch, adding features build after build, with the precious help of MV users from xda (specialy euromusic & djcedric, big thanks guys!)..

The point is that i haven't try to do THE best app in the world, the nicest design.. Just make an pratical app for MV's users..

The first goal was to have an working app that give some basics infos(sim balance), then to have an working history..

Of course, in the end, if the app can be nicer, it's great, but you know..

We are not here for playing at " my d**** is bigger than your, ***** .. !" , Come on,wake up kid ! That's soo what you're doing.. Coming from nowhere, signup at xda, show off with yours "beautiful icons" and the others crappy descriptions, and of course, linking to your blog.. Great.:rolleyes:

It's soooo a "small mind" attitude.. You have made an app?Great, you found it useful and nicer? It's your oppinion, but don't come here like an cowboy to shoot on mine and try to grab some users.. It's soo lame and so childish!

Oh, FYI, your " auto adopts" don't work very well.. I have an WWE rom with regional setting in French, and the app is is in english.. So, i prefer mine version, with the true choice of the 3 languages..

To conclude, i'll add that the fact of adding pictures doesn't make your app nicer, i don't like the child 'iphone' look UI.. :/
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] n3tfusion:
So, nobody has tested yet the new version with the topup history and date picker ? :confused:

I hope it will work great :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wouterdevinck:
@n3tfusion

I have absolutely no problem with you or with your app. My remark about ugly windows mobile apps was not meant to be an insult, it's just that the controls provided by Microsoft are ugly and not finger friendly.

You have made a very useful app and you have used the available controls, that's great, but maybe we (I mean all WinMo developers) should bundle forces and make better controls? Just don't say that a nicer UI doesn't make your app better, I really can't stand it when people say that :) I really hope you agree that user friendliness (e.g. finger friendliness on a mobile device) should be top priority.

What I disagree about: I think every developer's goal should be to build the best app, only that way great apps can emerge. A little bit of competition can certainly be a good thing. Hostility, however is not a good thing.

I'll certainly take a look at your new version, cause it looks very promising!

About the language problem, it uses the built-in facilities of .net to localize, so it should adopt to the language of your operating system. I use the functionality of .net instead of an option screen because of the requirements set by marketplace for mobile. It could be a problem with some registry settings in the ROM you're using. I'd love to work together on figuring out what the problem is.

And oh, you know how I have found this thread? Exactly, you have put a link on blog where I was promoting my app. I didn't have a problem with that at all... Let the users choose, inform them about both apps and use it as a drive to make it better! :)

@euromusic

I can only encourage that!

They both use .net 3.5.

The .net network classes are known to be rather slow, so I think both will be just as fast. I have only given this app a few tries, so I would have to use it for a while to see which one feels faster (if there is any difference).

Are you the same person who reported a problem with an HTC pro yesterday? Otherwise I think I might have a problem on that phone. Do you have any details the might help finding the bug? (error, version of the ROM, ...)

Best regards and keep up the good work!

Wouter
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] badboy70:
It works fine, but the date picker freezes the app for a moment (about 10 seconds) after tapping OK. I guess it's making an internet connection then, you should put a label or some box flaoting over it saying "Updating..." or so, so then user knows it's not freezing.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] djcedric:
This is very good speeking,i agree totaly your mind mate,please wouterdevinck,make all what you want but make your own thread and respect other user making stuff here,this is the first rule here on XDA!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] n3tfusion:
Okay, corrected in the version 1.02 !

The version will be online tomorrow i think, or may be this evening..

No big news features, but a notification bubble will come with the auto-update, showing the remaining credits sms and data.. Like that, don't need to look inside the program just for checking infos.. :)

@All : What do you think about this notification ? Should i add an config checkbox to enable/disable it ?

Another thing : for the Auto-update, what must be updated ?

1) All ? [ Infos + Call + Topup history ]

2) Just the basic sim balance infos (sms,data,credits) ?

3) Balance + History

4) Balance + Topup

5) History + Topup

6) I prefer to have the choice and auto-update what i want ( like by exemple, with 3 checkbox for select what need to be auto-updated )

Thanks for yours feedbacks :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] n3tfusion:
New version online !

With Notification Bubbles and a few bug fixed :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] euromusic:
Sorry I din't check the thread in a few days :)

The ew version is nice :)

No iwasn't the one. but I'l pm the error messae as soon as i can. (btw i tested the app on 3 different roms :) )
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Carre5:
That would be me ;)

@euromusic

I just installed the latest EnergyROM on my HTC Touch Pro and now Wouter his app works fine :)

This app looks nice too.. I used one of the first versions.. But there were some big bugs in it then..

Anyway.. I'm going to try the latest version aswell :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] n3tfusion:
Hello All,

I've uploaded the New version !

No big improvements, except some firststart bugs and, it's seem that MV changed theirs api, now the credit is 2 digit post coma (.00) ,before it was 4 digts after the coma ( .0000), so i've fixed the graphical bug, else there was a mistake ! ( ex : 7,30€ --> 7€ )

And, yeah, now it's a .Cab ! It took a looooong time, i know, but .. :D

Please, test it, enjoy it, and leaves some feedbacks :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] djcedric:
i have installed the cab and i don't know why but i have error when i try to start the app?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] n3tfusion:
oh? what error? did you put your existing config.ini?delete it and try again?

thanks, i'll look for the bug!

edit: it work great for me, with or without the config.ini..

so, please tell me more about the error ?

edit2: Installed on internal & external storage, no bugs for me.. i don't understand the issue !
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] djcedric:
yes strange,the previous version is working fine,no worry i reflash and retry and communicate the error.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] n3tfusion:
Any news on it ? :)

@ALL :

I'm working on a new version, who is a little bit different because at the launch of the app, only the sim balance is updated, the history and the topup are on demand, you have to choose the date or click on a update button. There is also a "update all" softkey, if you want all the info in one clic.

that will speed up the launching :)

I'm also testing to replace the phone number by a contact, that's ok, but a little bit slow now, i have to improve it :)

I'm thinking about the Shovi stuff, but i don't know if it's a good thing to add to the app ? You will need to copy/paste the code from the sms to the app, instead of just clicking on it and open opera/IE to view the video.

I'm open to all the ideas :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] n3tfusion:
Hello all,

The new version is ready !

Features :

-Phonenumber is replaced by Contact's name ! it's fast :)

-Some bug fixed

-New arrow pictures

-Almost everything is translated in EN,FR,NL :)

-The 3 parts are now updated separately (Info,History,Topup) --> New button for update the topup.

-Auto-update : Now auto-update only the sim balance

The only reason for changing this ( one button for update all --> 3), is that it can be very very slow to update the history, depending on how many items you have.. In my case, i have a lot of sms/data per days, so it take a lot of time to get/parse/show the data..

So i prefer to only refresh the sim balance at the loading of the app( -> fast!), and showing the history only if i need it .. :)

And so, you can save bandwith ! [ Yeah, i know, we have 1GB, but, you know, history can take 100kb easily, so if you auto-update all the time, it can be a problem! ]

I think it's all for the new features !

Pleeeeeease, i'm waiting for yours feedbacks.. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] euromusic:
back

I'm back after some time :p, but i had some problems with the rom i was currently using, it was the second rom with touchFLO 3D 2.5 but the .NET wasn't good enough for the app, now that NRGZ28 made a TouchFLO 3D 2.5 rom i'm back. :)

I'l check the new 1.04 and report back
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Stormenet:
Ok, so i've tried to run the 1.04 on my HD2, but I get an error at startup:

simplified stacktrace:

Happens in your Form1 Constructor, InitializeComponent() when the location of a control is set...

I have the .net cf 3.5 installed, even forced it to use .net 3.5 via the NetCFCfg.exe application.

Btw, how about making this app open source :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] n3tfusion:
Hello,

It's the first time i hear that. Are you a new user to this program?

Did you test any previous version ? if not, could you try the 1.02 or 1.03 to see if there is any difference ?

Could you tell me what control throw the error ? Because there are a looot of control in that part of code :D

Thanks :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Stormenet:
Ok, since your application isn't the only one suffering from this, I guess the problem is somewhere else...

I'll keep you posted ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Zepiii:
Doesn't work on my HD2 too :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Bacaryu:
I got a problem with the history, the credit displays under the time. I downloaded 1.04 version.

see attachment
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] woodrave:
Anyone found out why it's not working on some devices?

I have a touch pro 2, and it's also not working...

grtz
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] renegadEEE:
Just tested on HD2 but also not working.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sompie2:
not working on my raphael with energy rom
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Laurer:
Please can you Translate in German!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] teddybear3k:
up+++++++++++
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] keopsjo:
Hi there, there's a new Rom from Dutty, you can find it here:

<a href='http://htcpedia.com/duttys_hd_wm_leo_r_6d9ad31db5a4e9bad/soft/htc-blackstone-rom.html'>Download Duttys HD WM6.5 Leo R5</a>

Just flashing her and let's see how it is.

Ciao
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dom_mitchell1:
As always from Dutty, it's pretty rock solid.

Hope the master keeps developing for the HD now he has his new baby the Topaz!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] skulk3r:
Using it at the moment for about 4 hours...

..seems to be quite stable, and appears to speed up once Neos DriverPack 3 is installed. I have that plus Gfxboost v1.2 installed.

Newer icons, larger icons, twitter tab (not tested by me). Sms appears stable, although I haven't loaded a lot of smses in it yet.

Overall...a solid ROM :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] chainbolt:
Is it 6.5.0 or 6.5.1?

Edit: Found it, it's 23016 based. Not interested - "old" stuff. ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cipi055994:
a question for admin: why doesn't dutty post here anymore?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MrKaon:
it is the same WM which you will see on HTC LEO :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
This is his choice and we have to respect it
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
Indeed.

When you have had the startmenu att the bottom for a while its a pain in the ass going back to older builds.

Also... looking att the comments there it looks like the Twitter login problem is still there in that ROM.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gohyc:
I share the exact sentiment!! Means this ROM is out for me, doesn't matter what works and what doesn't. Am happy with Miri Test 23053 at the moment until newer release.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] aryan79:
23016 is NOT finger-friendly(bottom buttons and WM menu) as 23047-49-53 etc so is not a good ROM.

23016 is finger-friendly as WM5(5 years ago) so, compared to iPhone and Android is a s..t :rolleyes:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ZekeWolf:
I totally agree with you guys. The newer start menu is addictive.

I wait and wait until there will be a ROM with 23xxx and manilla 1717 (sense).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tbd@immigrantsong.de:
How can anyone work with that new Start menu?

I tried it with a couple of ROMS and feel its just a mess. I never hit the right button, specially when you have apps that use a soft button for things like Exit, "X", etc. Just gets you confused

I can only hope MS never puts this in a final release!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] THUDUK:
I tried to ask a simple question as to why Chefs are sticking to 23016, but got it locked before any answer...

I have not tried the newer builds with the bottom more finger friendly environment, can you still use a task switcher ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] maati:
Chefs use 23016, because it's the official RTM and 100% stable version.

All newer versions are test versions and have bugs.

Hovever, I agree that the Start and OK buttons at the bottom are much better.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] chainbolt:
I doubt that 23016 is 100% stable -in particular not for the HD. ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gohyc:
Like you, I used to hate the button Start Menu, but trust me, once you get used to it, you will know how addictive it is and will never wanna go back to the old top-left Start Menu, as you can see from various posts here.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gohyc:
I do agree as I was on 23016 for awhile. Had resisted the bottom Start Menu for sometime before I finally decided to give it another shot thanks to e-native Position Fix which helps the most in changing my impression of the bottom Start Menu. It is also nice that the new buttons are skinnable.

Personally I find the bugs in Manila 2.5 seems to over-shadow those of WM6.5, but we do see both evolving (with improvements?) as it gets nearer and nearer to the final release.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Maxell:
Great ROM Dutty!!!!!

Anyone know how to disconnet Data Connection after XXX minutes...???

Tanks,
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
Yeah, thats basicly what I said. :confused:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] aryan79:
Sorry! :(

I read wrong your post :rolleyes:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
No problem. :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Can't really say I blame a lot of chef's for sticking to a build which they know is safe. Yes, we like to experience newer builds, but we also want one which is working properly. You'll find that a lot of people will try a new build for a while and then revert back to a stable build for everyday use.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
Yeah.

Its great that we have so much to choose from.

Hopefully there will come more stable 6.5.1 roms soon.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] noris08:
does anyone knows if this release includes NeoS2007 Driverpack? if so, which version?

it seems to me that wallpaper looks like other roms with neo driverpack installed?

thank you!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Can't confirm as I haven't flashed rom yet, but I would surprised if it did include Neo pack. Most likely you would need to install this yourself
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] shruff:
Gosh, I find it miles better and more user friendly, there's only 3 buttons at any one time :D its pretty hard to confuse especially considering the size of them and besides it makes one handed control much easier too, not to mention how asthetically pleasing it is.

I hope all new ROMs come out with the new layout!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
If I was a betting man I'd probably bet that they would go down this route. But I'm not a betting man :p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
Win 6.5 ver23053 + Man 2.1.1918

If this two will work well with each other, I think this is the best step forward. I still think (and many still do) that Manila 2.5 (Leo) is too heavy a ROM for our Blackstone (I have tried about every New Leo ROMs out there including HTC pedia releases) and the speed, fluidity and responsiveness of Manila UI just simply struggles to catch up with the older Manila Releases, (even after installing speed booster cabs) this is why, after a day or two(L26V2) of trying a Leo ROM, i always end up reflashing back to my signature ROM. :)

WE can only hope that the spirit and motivation of all the Great ROM cooks here in XDA would never falter, and keep us all Happy Flashers! and Proud owners of our Blackstone.!!:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] noris08:
yeah i think this is most likely myself, but the wallpapers looks well (not the ugly circles) like roms with neo driverpack installed
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] chainbolt:
Nobody is blamed anyway. Whatever the chefs do is appreciated. But this is a developer forum. If you want to stick for something that is "known to be safe", don't touch anything here. And if you believe that a modified 23016 LEO ROM ported for the HD in combination with Manila 2.5 is "known to be safe", I don't know .... :D

Exactly, of course it's new and it takes some time to adjust to it, but once you are in the new interface, it's clearly superior because it's more intuitive and ergonomically correct. It's anyway a moot point, because that is what we all get. It's like arguing that 6.0 is better than 6.1
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gohyc:
I believe you meant Manila 1919.