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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Brendo:
This thread is aimed at getting Windows Marketplace to install progs to Storage Card

v1.1.1109: NOT YET ACHIEVED

v1.0.2201.0000: SOLVED *

v1.2.1417.0001 Post Three

v1.2.1422.0001 Post Four

Latest Files:

v1.1.1109 for WM6.5: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4939560&postcount=158

Marketplace for WM6, WM6.1: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4963420&postcount=177

There are a couple of theories that are currently being tested so hopefully something will pop up shortly. I have been able to achieve a work around, but its not very convient (evidence here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=591056)

The current way of installing is to use Setup.dll in the cab:

Setup.dll files included in cab file tell Marketplace where to install

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa924308.aspx

More Info:

http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/wmdev/default.aspx

*NOTE: To access marketplace you need the

latest version of Windows Marketplace

thus making older versions (and work) redundant

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Storage card installation coming in next version!

http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/wmdev/archive/2010/02/15/marketplace-momentum.aspx

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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Vledderos:
I dont understand.. is this a fix so the apps will be installed on your storage card instead of on the device?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Noonski:
Here is the latest cab file (v1.2.1422.0001)

I editted it so that it can be installed to storage card

Marketplace_1.2.1422.0.cab = original

Marketplace_sc_1.2.1422.0.cab = edited
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Brendo:
the first version is original official ms cab

the second version is an editted version i made of the original so it runs off storage card instead of device
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] orb3000:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=4675927#post4675927
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Brendo:
My one is the official cab
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Noonski:
I was planning on checking SD card installation this weekend.

So Thanks a lot :D

And for the information around where did you find the switch to SD?

(did a comparison of the two versions and registr settings but found nothing to be pointing to the SD install change)

Also the Aman version that downloaded the rest of the needed files, after downloading those files, was still started through the old Marketplace.exe.

Does this version do it's jiggy without that old .exe?

Looks like it has a minimum need for .Net 3.5 Mobile.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Brendo:
this is the new version that amans downloads - that way you dont need his cab

aku reg change lets some users access marketplace (found in thread here somewhere but not in the cabs)

all i did to the cab was change the hardcoded install location (from \windows to %InstallDir%\Program Files)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Noonski:
Re-Write ;)

What i meant was that The new market place does not create any shortcuts to itself.

So in the previous case WMMarketplace.exe would start WMMarketplaceFullClient.exe.

So if a user that never had WMMarketplace.exe, how would it ever start up WMMarketplaceFullClient.exe, besides going to windows folder and making the shortcut themselves as the cabs you posted do not make the links.

So in that case all that is needed is just a shortcut.

Pretty cool if all it takes to get SD install is installing it "Not into Windows"
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Brendo:
ahhh, i see, will have to update (unless someelse can do it)

essentially it is: change install location and values for registry

shall have to add icon (which starts fullclient)

you need to select storage card as your install location. %instaldir% is like a wildcard and enables installing to storage card
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Noonski:
Here they are then with the shortcuts, And added the Enable Widgets registry for supported devices just in case.

Now Back to work it's Coffee time :D

What i thought (and am interested into getting to work), is forcing the App store, to install Apps Store Apps to SD card and i thought that was what you meant.

Bummer, but that still leaves a little Chalenge to the next guy.

Also installing your/this _SC version gave me the US shop, instead of the NL shop i had forced upon me before.

And running the still installed to Memory (Downloaded by Aman's Cab) Previous Version will give me the NL shop.

Update:

Cabs have been moved to first post.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Brendo:
hmmm, i didnt check that. im in australia. im guessing it is one of the reg strings that do it (possibly one of the **** ones i posted - i copied them from another thread incase they are different for each user so thats prob why it is us shop)

i had a quick look for download location but nothing stood out so when i have time, i hope to find something. the thing is, it deletes cab files after installing them
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Noonski:
can't be the registry strings as i can run both localized stores on one device.

So it might be there are actually different Cabs for different Locations.

I'll be moving your Thread to Dev And Hacking, as general get's less attention to check this localisation "Problem" (cool neat Feature) out.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Brendo:
hmmm...well since the second cab is derived from the first, that is strange

i used the reg entries from here for teh sc cab:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4683349&postcount=8153

"DeviceGuid"="c10b3661-WWWW-WWWW-WWWW-WWWWWWWWWW"
"DevicePuid"="0018BFFD804FXXXX"
"FedDocURLChkDate"=hex:00,00,40,0C,A9,B2,D2,41

those were the only different to my device

plus, im in australia, not us
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Noonski:
Hmm, might have been a glitch in the MS appstore itself.

I am now no longer able to get the other US/AUS store.

Razzum frazzum..:mad:

Update:

Re installing the Cab again gave me the English Shop again.

So you are right it is related to the Reg's.

But these somehow get reset.

I don't have the time ATM to fully check out what is going on.

But if it is just the registry settings changing my Locale for the Shop, it should be fairly easy to make a locale switcher.

(i don't think i have US store as there's only 46 apps in there)

Yup running WMMarketplace.exe (The old one instead of the FullClient.exe) with an active GSM connection will change the ID to:

c183d069-WWWW-WWWW-WWWW-WWWWWWWWWWWW

For NL Region apps.

And

"DevicePuid"="0018BFFD804FXXXX"

"FedDocURLChkDate"=hex:00,00,40,0C,A9,B2,D2,41

Don't get Changed

The first Cab only had:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Security\Software\Microsoft\Marketplace]
"BootStrapInstalledPath"="\\Windows\\WMMarketplaceFullClient.exe"
"MarketInstallLocation"="\\Windows\\WMMarketplaceFullClient.exe"
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] FloatingFatMan:
I'm in the UK, and actually have a proper official WM6.5 device, running the OEM's rom.

DeviceGUID is 5c08e32a-WWWW-WWWW-WWWW-WWWWWWWWWWWW

However, I'm not convinced that the Locale is in there, not if they stick to their own rules. That SHOULD just be your devices unique ID.

We need 2 phones in the same locale to compare.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Noonski:
I put in your Device ID disconnected GSm and went in trough Wifi.

Now i have 52+ apps in the Store (can't see if this is actually Uk but it's different/more then the Previous asumed Australian one)

Could be that a part of the Device ID is used for the Locale though.

Could also be that their Servers remember the last Locale used by that Device ID and then present that shop to the device.

But second time i log back into marketplace (MarketPLaceFullClient.exe on SD) with GSM on i still get the same 52+ app store.

Time for some good old "Break and Testing".

I used

5c08e32a-WWWW-WWWW-WWWW-WWWWWWWWWW

As DeviceGuid

And i then got a new DeviceGuid assigned,

c685ebe2-WWWW-WWWW-WWWW-WWWWWWWWWW

And i can still see the (now correctly counted) 56 Apps Store version as oposed to the 4 Apps NL version i get starting it through The old Marketplace.exe.

WTFrag i just Found Microsoft Office Mobile Listed for 31,19 Pounds!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] smuppy:
Dunno if its of any interest (or if I am just plain dumb;) ), but test changing your locale (regions)...

I changed from Swedish to English (US) and all of the sudden I had s**tload of apps to choose from... I connected through wifi though, havent tested GPRS yet.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Noonski:
It's not even a real offline PC Based Store :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Brendo:
yes it is. it works the same as xbox live marketplace
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] redpoint73:
Installed the latest CAB, but still getting an error message:

"Marketplace could not connect to the server. Please check your data connection and try again"

Any others having this issue? Ideas on how to fix it?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] russell1997:
no error never starts

I went to wp.windowsphone.com on my phone and installed marketplace from there.

when i run marketplace on my tilt (custom rom) it says it's checking for latest version.

it appears to complete that then i get the waiting icon then it just disappears with no error but never starts marketplace.

any ideas or should i load one of the cab's on this forumn?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] del4:
Poor execution

Tried out the PC-based version of the marketplace today, hoping it would be better than the WM-based one. Not really surprised that it wasn't, though I was surprised that you can't search by price, say for free apps... :confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] redpoint73:
Working fine now (didn't change anything). Must have been a problem on the server side (for real).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] notanerd1411:
Are you using the regular version or the SD card one?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pjwren13:
I downloaded the offical 6.1 marketplace app today. If someone figures out how to make the app so that you can download to SD let me know. Why MS would create an marketplace then limit the amount of apps you can install by making apps install to phone memory I dont know.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] russell1997:
still had the problem i'm quoting... i ended up loading cab 5 from here but i'm getting the connection to server error.

any ideas?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] russell1997:
it's working now

i loaded the version i got from mp.windowsphone.com

made a registry changed referenced here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4990854&postcount=7441

working perfectly!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] andy206:
so,is there a version for wm 6.5 that allows to install apps into the sd card?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] surce:
Err... Sorry 4 post this here and 4 my bad english, im spanish...

I have an HTC Touch 3G Jade from Orange with the "Original Cooked HTC ROM WMobile 6.1", i tried to install wmarketplace from the official webpage. First the navigator sent me an url with a "windows marketplace bootstrap", i install this and the bootstrap downloads and install me a new "WMarketplace.cab"...

I always have the same error, translated to english: "Unable to install WMarketplace.cab", i tried with the same cabs of this post but i always have the same error!

can someone help me plz?

surce
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] leland_jr:
+1, that's all I'm trying to figure out.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] razerbug:
Yeah I had the old XDA version of the first MP (the one that let you install apps to the SD card), and now Microsoft have released their update I can't download and install the new MP and it won't let me access the previous version.

SO... +2 I'm also wondering if there is an updated version that can install apps to the SD card, and if so, where can I find a .cab of it?!

Cheers as always guys!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] razerbug:
Okay... update:

removing MP and redownloading the new one from the bootstrap installer at mp.windowsphone.com means I now have a working version of MP, just a f'in useless one that can only install to the phones (limited) memory.

Has anyone found a way to change this?

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Brendo:
if you read the first post, all your questions will be answered.......

;)

It has links to newest marketplace and tells you how the installation of apps works. there is a setup.dll file included in the apps cab, and itll be difficult to edit that cab

the only way is to get the cab while its being installed (from a folder on your device), then edit the cab by removing the setup.dll file. then installing it. atleast i think that would work in theory!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Noonski:
I had just posted the whole registry setting where you can change the download path of the cab but then the internet connection timed out and i lost that post.

Serves me right.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] razerbug:
thanks, I can see you're link to the latest version of the Marketplace (which I now have)... but that doesn't allow for installing apps to the SD card, or have you/someone re-fixed this in that cab?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] razerbug:
Actually the more that page gets edited the harder it is to tell what does what and how any of us mere-mortal non developer types can use it. :o

if MS read that page and fixed their own sodding software however we'd all be happy. I sometimes wonder if they make more money from their 40% shares in Apple by not releasing a valid competitor :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Noonski:
Not all of us are developers, most of us are just overly curious.

This thread contains enough information for a non developer to split the atom so to speak.

And clearly Microsoft has had enough time to fix this as they did fix the workaround to getting the cab to install to SD so they have it coming as we have also a responsibility to search, find out and document.

But it did just give me another idea to test something.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] razerbug:
your right and instead of embrace the customers needs and the fixes given to them they made it MORE of a hassel... it's almost enough to make me get an iphone... okay thats going a little far, android maybe... :p

but seriously, is that link to the latest version of MP a version that lets you install to SD or an official (and useless) release?

alas I don't know enough about registry editing so there won't be any atom-splitting here going by that post I'm afraid. (not to mention that you shouldn't really be editing the registry on a phone just to get it to work right... it's bad enough you have to on a computer).

Good look with your new plan of attack, let me know if you get anywhere!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Noonski:
It will be cleared out tomorrow when i add a second post to the beginning.

It will screw up the statistics but here are the original numers, thank FireFox for caching your previous pages correctly.

Original-WMMarketplace.cab (684.5 KB, 1857 views)

Original-WMMarketplace_sc.cab (685.6 KB, 896 views)

Short-WMMarketplace.cab (684.7 KB, 1423 views)

Short-WMMarketplace_sc.cab (686.0 KB, 1493 views)

XDA-Developers-patched-WMMarketplace_sc.cab (688.1 KB, 4930 views)

Anyone that can explain what these mean.

I see at least that less 5000 downloaded the Save to SD card version against the "around" 6000 that opted for all the unpatched ones together.

It actually proves a positive Point, the gross of people aren't actually interested in getting something illegal.

All these files where re-uploaded all at once to keep the numbers clean.

Microsoft Wins, as this, was their open statement about misuse of the marketplace.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] razerbug:
what? there is nothing "illegal" about using a version of MP that allows saves to SD card! we still use our credit cards to purchase apps! that's not even an issue.

I imagine people are nervous about using no unofficial hacks on their phones, as I myself am, but I trust the work done by XDA - an in this matter it's pretty academic. An app store that only installs to the tiny phone memory is not an app store at all, it's just a bit of PR

The people downloading the official CAB are probably win5-6.1 users, hoping to get a MP app early, although it will be even more useless to them as pre 6.5 phone have even less phone memory than intended "windowsphones" ...

at this point can anyone show me how to install android on my toshiba TG01? :P
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Brendo:
have tidied up first post a bit to enable a clearer view of the current situation/files
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] LORD JUNIOR:
Just use sktools to move the application to a different destination, like My Storage or SD Card, and it edits the registry and all of the folder to the new destination path you chose.

Go down to Move Data.

http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_feat.html
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] owziee:
Have you checked that it saves apps to storage card after moving marketplace???
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Noonski:
The marketplace doesn't install the actual aplications.

It sends a Command to the default installer in Windows Mobile.

"WCELoad.exe" and the windows name for it is "Installation"

What i'm looking into is waiting for the Installation window.

Kill Marketplace and wceload.exe.

Then start the installation again (without the /noui command) from the original Temp location.

Then delete the Cab again after installation.

But even if this works i don't see it as a userfriendly solution as it closes the marketplace everytime you want to install an app.

There is another way, but i won't talk about solutions that i cannot try and make and have not thought about myself.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] razerbug:
thanks for tidying up the first post, that makes things a lot clearer.

im not to worried about MP being installed to the memory card its the apps. do you need to use sktools for every app or will MP install apps to where ever it is installed (pretty sure it dosnt)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Noonski:
Sorry forget to add the anwser to your query.

Installing MP to SD will not make it install the apps to SD.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] razerbug:
yeah didn't think so...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] LORD JUNIOR:
True but the apps you install from MP which will install to the main memory with sktools you could later move it to the SD Card or My Storage and save the space on the main memory.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] locolyric:
hi, i just install marketplace and try to install facebook, after download finish, a notice pop up and said my phone time was not correct.

How can i solve this problem?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] razerbug:
could it mean the time/date is set wrong on your handset? Can't think how that would make a difference but you can change it: Start>settings>clocks and alarm
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cbronson41:
Thank you russell!!! I was having the same exact problem with the same ROM and all. Your post is the only one I found that has this particular problem. Works great as well!!! Thank You very much!!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] blcklab:
And does this registry change install the app to the SD card? Everything seemed to be working fine until recently. Not sure the last time I tried to use the app store but I know for sure today it did not prompt me to install to Storage.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] calexan:
Tried installing XDA-Developers-patched-WMMarketplace_sc.cab

Wants to update and then i get the error message.... any work around? Like yall I just dont want to fill up my internal when i have a big storage card... Its ridiculous MS makes this difficult.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
It's in the works. As said in the first post, no work-around has been achieved for "Marketplace Phase II". In the future MS will update this to allow Storage Card installation if it wants to be competent.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] GreenOmnia:
Hi!

I'm reading this post probably for the fift time now, and I still don't get it xD . So I ask for help x)

I've got two questions:

1. Is the "XDA-Developers-patched-WMMarketplace_sc.cab" a cab, which will let me install apps from marketplace v1.1.1109 to My Storage? (I guess "My Storage" on Omnia is equal to "Storage Card" on HTC)

2. Is changing the region in marketplace (and downloading apps from another marketplace) prohibited by microsoft or something? Because otherwise I don't see the point of making different marketplaces..

Thanks for your help :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Noonski:
Right now all the easy solutions i have tried have failed into forcing the latest marketplace to install to SD.

So that makes the older version obsolete as these will download the latest version.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jmmmmm:
So NONE of the modified cabs in the first few posts work now or what? I tried the last one and it did not work due to failed downloads of the latest version.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jmmmmm:
Nevermind my last post. :D

Reading is fundamental!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bitbrat:
You may want to see this....

The following was posted to a question on the Microsoft Mobile forum concerning installing Marketplace apps to Storage Cards:

"We are looking at adding the capability of installing apps to a storage card in the future. Please stay tuned.

Marked As Answer byInigo LopezMSFT, ModeratorMonday, December 21, 2009 11:41 PM"

This is straight from Microsoft....... sorry it took me a while to get it posted here.

Realistically the problem is one of security, as shown by the fact that this was all started by demonstrating that Marketplace security wasn't very good originally..... Microsoft is trying to protect their and their contributors investment by protecting access to the apps and their CABs, but the way they are doing it is rather "short sighted" shall we say.

Here's hoping that they get it done soon!!

AJ
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Brendo:
how does installing to storage card have anything to do with security? maybe cuz you can transfer a storage card to another device? :s
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] owziee:
But I think they should make an encrypted key tied to the IMEI, that way the app would'n work if put in another phone...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bitbrat:
Microsoft want to control "how" you install the CAB - so it saves to where they want it to as it downloads, installs to where they want it to, and hopefully you don't get to rip it off in the middle of the whole process, disassemble it and spread it around to other people.

Also, yes, there may well be issues with moving cards to another phone, assuming it is one of those apps that doesn't really need "installing" so much as copying to the right place and having a shortcut created....

Remember, Marketplace is about apps, both free and PAID, hence the need to protect the CABs from being "illegally" copied. Microsoft is going to want to have a common delivery protocol for both types of apps, hence the current standard. If you were one of the developers of a paid app I suspect you would have a different viewpoint...... HOWEVER, I really wish they would come up with a fix for this even so...

AJ
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bitbrat:
By the way, if anyone cares....

You can at least install the Marketplace app to the Storage card just by copying it there and changing where the shortcut points.... Still installs your purchases to the phone tho...

AJ
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] owziee:
It really sucks to have a phone like the Diamond with small phone storage and "large" built-in internal memory and with no way to install to the internal memory. They could at least make the marketplace identify phones without storage card slots like the Diamond and allow us to install to the 4 gig memory.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] razerbug:
Thats the sort of crap that Apple pulls. Windows has always been about the fact you control it, edit registries etc

There are already 3rd party programs to move the apps to the storage card anyway - what do they hope to achieve?

More importantly - why don't they give half of Xda-developers jobs at MS HQ as you guys seem to fix and improve all the crap MS keeps trying to pull LOL

Heres still hoping someone releases a 'fixed' version of the MP app like they did the first time round! *crosses fingers*