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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] TyTanIc:
Contract law

No problem in reusing any quotes... it's not copyrighted... it's just from the acts themesleves! :)

The law of contract states quite implicitly that your contract or 'bargain' was with your retailer, with whom you exchanged payment or service... they will then have to take equal action against HTC from whom they buy the products or their own wholesaler, who in turn, etc.

Concentrate on the "fit for purpose" clause and sufficient durability... that's the bit they know is aligning to the six-year rule.

Unfortunately, the Far East have very little consumer protection compared to the UK, so their call-centre oiks don't know UK Law and then try palming you off with excuses and non-acceptance of liability. Which is another reason why you need to go back to your UK supplier.

Also, if you purchased it via credit card, then you can invoke the Consumer Credit Act 1974 which places the responsibility of delivery of the product on the card provider. So, in that case, write to your card provider explaining what has happened and that you wish to place the paid amount 'in dispute'.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Lyian:
Whos courts? UK courts or will US courts also back us up?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] TyTanIc:
UK Laws Only

Sorry, this is only in relation to UK (England to be more precise... Scottish Law allows for other considerations). I have no idea about US contractual law but I would hope that the Land of the Free (or the Land of Those Now Under the Patriot Act ;) ) would afford its citizens some sort of redress in these sorts of cases.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] epoh:
I do not believe any such laws apply in the US. When you purchase a product you willingly bind yourself to any contract information supplied with the product. In the case of Cell Phones you have 30 days to return the product and once you've gone past that point you have to live by whatever what stated in the contract.

I quite like the UK system. Keeps the businesses far more honest. Your only route here in the U.S. is small claims court.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Lyian:
Yea, here in the states their is a saying, "your SoL". We get screwed over alot. Wish we had similar laws to keep business honest.

I do wonder tho, whos law would apply since i bought it from over there (ie clove) so it came from a European distributor. *shrug*
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bug666:
1- Cut a small piece of paper just a bit bigger than the size of the moisture sensor.

2- stick that to a piece of clear tape.(see pics)

3- Cut out around the paper leaving a little tape on each side of the paper.

4- Place the paper/tape over the sensor.

*never stick tape directly to the sensor because it will pull the sensor right off when you try to remove the tape!

Now you are left with a protected moisture sensor just in case something like this should ever happen to you!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] TyTanIc:
UK v EU

European laws vary... the UK does has some pretty good consumer-supporting regulations, but some countries in Euroland are a nightmare.

If it was bought from a UK seller, then the law will cover you, but you would have to take action in the UK.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] BradleyH007:
In case anyone was wondering, the AT&T-branded Tilt 2 does not have the side/exterior sticker in that location.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pistou:
That sounds like good news. Is there a sticker in another location (hopefully more sensible)?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] catcraig:
There are 2 stickers on the Tilt2 but niether is outside the battery housing. One is on the battery as pictured and the other is inside the back of the phone where the top of the battery would be touching near the SIM card.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ripnetuk:
Woohoo - they have agreed to fix it..

Hi,

Good news this morning - HTC have contacted me and agreed to fix the phone :) thanks HTC

g
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] carhigh:
Just checked, bought yesterday, same deal here with the tilt 2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] TyTanIc:
Good news

A result! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Gilliland:
My Sprint TP2 has moisture stickers on both the side of the case and the end of the battery. I took a two-inch strip of cellophane tape, cut one half inch from the end and inverted it - placing it sticky side to sticky side across the middle of the remaining piece. This left me with a 1.5 inch piece of tape that is only sticky on the ends. I then cut it in half lengthwise, leaving me with two narrow strips. I put one on the battery, and one on the phone, obviously leaving the non-sticky part of the tape over each sticker.

It looks like it should work pretty well to protect the sensor sticker from accidental activation.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jalupinja:
Thanks a million, fixed mine. I hope you get sorted with HTC!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] stevecn70:
If you notice how you grip your phone when removing the battery, your palm rests up against the moisture sticker, so if you are removing your battery for whatever reason, make sure your hand isn't resting up against the sticker. Over time the moisture in your skin will start making the sticker change.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jank0023:
Tilt2 here..honestly it took me a while to locate them. Sounds like much more realistic location on Tilt2...I guess we get something for the inferior LCD:P
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] amurch:
Picture for tilt users
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ITNV:
My Tilt2 has a total of 3 stickers. One on the battery itself, one under the battery near the SIM card and one under the back cover near the reset button which I'm sure will be very susceptible to moisture.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] senseipetz:
I have also an HTC, but is an Touc HD. My internal Sticker is continue to be white, but this on the battery is already also a little crossed white stripes.. It sucks.. Why the hell 3M is guaranting that the sticker will never change his status if there are only humidity... :( :( This is so the customer against to companies... It sucks.. ;(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] agentdr8:
My original Tilt2 that I got from the retail store on release date (10/18) has the 3 water sensors. But the one I ordered from LetsTalk, as well as my gf's and my coworker's, only have the 2 more "internal" sensors (battery and under the battery). Maybe AT&T had too many complaints about that external sensor going bad unintentionally?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] duykhang524:
My HTC TP2 from Telus has the sticker near the micro sd slot, I swear it never touched water however it's a bit red in the middle.. If it ever break will I still be covered by the warranty?? They should have put it under the battery.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] atticus182:
Thanks for the heads up, I have immediately covered the sticker with a small piece of tape, so that it won't accidentaly get moist and void my warranty! Thanks again!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] drearg:
Alot of thanks for the heads up. Mine is above my sim card. Still white as far as I can tell. Kinda tricky to cover though, its were you lift up on my battery to remove it. Dont want the tape to pull the tab off.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jrdiaz20:
Crap! I saw this post and thought of covering the outer sticker and guess what happens?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bnakid:
Wow! I found two of those stickers in my phone. Both are still the clean white with red crossmarks. The one in the picture and another on the side of the phone above the stylist (with the cover off). I covered both with post-it fragments and some tape. Hope that will help protect at a minimum from condensation issues.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rr5678:
The T-Mobile version has them hidden under the battery

RSoD = Red Sticker of Death :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] maxpower097:
I have a tmobile TP2. I have 1 red cross hatched sticker on the battery. And a blank white tab sticking out of the side of the case where the other sticker would be but attached to the phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Aaron McCarthy:
I've been having the infamous microphone being super quiet issue with my phone for the last few weeks and finally just called ATT to get the exchange. Low and behold the girl on the phone had me pull out the battery and check the moisture sticker and tell her if it was white or not. I immediately thought of this post. I have exchanged tons of phones after they screw up and never had a rep on the phone ask me about it. Kind of handy I guess as I wouldn't want to waste my time OR money and send it in to find out I have to pay outright for the new one they send.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] massimo51:
Just a thought. If at all possible, I've noticed that a few people have actually had their repair or replacement approved in spite of the red water indicator. Is there any kind of notes or recorded documentation you could possibly attach for the rest of us, so we can use it as precedence that HTC admits fault and is in fact willing to rectify the situation. It might be enough to give the rest of us sufficient leverage to get appropriate resolve. It would be much appreciated.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] adirtymonkey:
I hope no one tells the repair centre about the mositure indicators.

I've just received back my Sony X1 which is just short of 2 years old which I submitted for repair as it lost all external sound. It vibrated but didn't ring, the 3.5mm socket worked.

I collected the X1 from Vodafone today along with a letter explaing about water and mositure damage and a pictures showing the PCB of my phone with a yellow pointer tab pointing to a tab on the board.

Did they mention the THREE moisture indicators on the board, one at each end and one in the middle NO. So a warning for those that might have Vodafone UK's insurance cover, it dosn't cover water damage, secondly it would appear their repair centres know 'not a lot' and should read the forums on how and what to look for.

Not being happy with their answer and knowing the device had been stripped by them already I took it apart and found the fault, as I had supected all along. Given the 1st part you dismantle from the X1 is the speaker housing it was plain to see that one of spring type connector from the speaker housing to the motherboard had broken and was actually trapped in the housing.

I'm currently 'digging vodafone' for a better response to their insurance cover.

Oh and the last laugh, last week I got a phone call from the Vodafone insurance people telling me they couldn't repair my phone, but they would replace my phone, as expected they didn't have any X1's and would I like a Galaxy S 16gb.

Now just dont get me started on google and their checkout....

ps. any vodafone repair staff or voda mod reading this please scroll past very very quickly.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ls1infenro:
I've got a ATT Tilt 2 and the moisture sticker is on the opposite side of the SD card. I SWEAR my first two didn't have them there. This most recent one does. Ill give you one guess where my sweaty thumb goes when you pull the back cover off to reset the phone when it freezes all the damn time.

This is just really pissing me off. The speakers are starting to crackle...again. And im worried if they are going to get me a new one.
[G1 Apps and Games] speoples20:
What is a good program for geo tagging your photos? I searched the market but only found the program geopics but it FC all the time. Anyone have a good suggestion for an app that will let you geotag your photos?
[G1 Apps and Games] circa85:
Open Camera

Press Menu

Choose Settings

Select "Store location in pictures"

???

Profit
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jubeh:
Hello, I've making my own android builds from source for a while, and I've been following the way Johan did it (by modifiying makefiles, etc), but I'd rather leave the included make-files from the source untouched and instead edit only buildspec to point to a product makefile I've prepared which includes my own ro.configs, app includes, and product copies (I learned all that getting bits and pieces from all the makefiles in the source). Other than making a copy of the original folder, there's no way to do branching locally (in case I'm working on two different pre-themed builds, or for two different purposes, like open-source only and adp-product pull/custom-bulid-paste, so making out of my different product makefiles would save me a lot of time. So, how do I select which product to make? How do I add my own product to wherever it is that is called when a makefile is specified (like TARGET_PRODUCT:=aosp_dream_us in bulidspec).
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] colorado_al:
I have the TP2 on Sprint, in the St. Louis, MO area.

Switched from AT&T.

My new TP2 is SOOOO much faster online than my old TP on AT&T!!!

I test using this site:

www.mobilespeedtest.com

It downloads a 512 MB test and gives the speed it achieved. I am consistantly above 2500 kbps, often above 3500 kbps!

With my AT&T phone I was usually below 1000 kbps, often below 500 kbps.

What are your speeds?
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] DragonNote:
I am a convert from a BlackBerry Storm...more like a BlackBerry Drizzle. The overall speed of the phones operation and tactile feel is much better. As for network speeds...

My speed just tested at:

512K file in 1.859 seconds

2.15Mbps Bandwidth

Download at 275.38KB/sec

3Meg file in 6.787 seconds

3.54 Mbps Bandwidth

Download at 452.63 KB/sec

Verizon network

You might want to re-check your #'s...because the don't make sense. There is no option for a 512MB download. A 512k file yes..
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] football0552:
With Verizon I sit at

2.53 Mbps for the 512k Download which has been more or less constant

i've varied from 1.54-about 3Mbps with the 3meg file.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] treyatl2006:
Verizon Wireless TP2:

2.76 Mbps

2831 kbps

Not bad since I did this test during peak times of the day!!
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Poke_N_PDA:
Make sure you aren't using skyfire or a version of Opera with their Turbo on it. These technologies cache pages and send smaller versions to your phone and therefore aren't reliable in speed tests. Use only Opera 9.5 (that comes with the phone) or IE.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] helirob:
I tried three time and got 2.64Mbps, 5.09Mbps and 4.16Mbps. I might just have to disconnect from my network in the office and use internet sharing on my phone!
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] DragonNote:
Used both O9.5 and IE here.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] tricknasty:
with my VZW Imagio i'm getting 3-5 mbps with trying all tests
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Secondhandsmoker:
only 1.75 mbps today on pageplus prepaid (verizon phone/network) in California
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] dezoris:
4.47Mbs using 512KB.

13.09Mbs using 1MB

I dont buy these results.

They are all over the place, even after clearing the cache on Opera 9.5 I had a few impossibly high results.

I tried DSL reports mobile test with the 1MB and I got anywhere from 4.5 to 6.5Mbs.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] GaryK2:
I don't get it. I used www.mobilespeedtest.com to test my speed. It reported 1.56 Mbps or 512 KB in 2.56 seconds. however I timed it by wall clock and it took 67 seconds. I used Opera for the test. Is there a more accurate site?
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] mmckee26:
I used the 3MB file and got the following results:

3072KB in 8.999 seconds

bandwidth 2.67 Mbps

download at 341.38 KB/sec.

If I use DSL reports mobile speedtest (1MB file), I get:

1384 kbit/sec

I don't really know which is more reliable.

I am on Verizon in Central Florida
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] NotATreoFan:
Center City Philadelphia, 15 minutes ago.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] mmckee26:
NotAtreoFan... how did you do that screen capture? I wanted to do the same thing, but have no idea how to do a screen capture on my TP2
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] NotATreoFan:
I use CapSure. Handles WVGA just fine. I recommend using PNG for saving screens since JPG compression looks like crap.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] colorado_al:
Not too bad here.

Sprint in St. Louis today clocking in at 4526 at 4PM local time.

PS- I use Shake and Save for screen shots
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] geeks4rent:
i wouldn't use the 512KB file to test the connection its too small. if you think about it most connections download that in 1 second so the test is done before it even begins really.

you want to try a larger file like 1 3 meg will give you a much more accurate idea of your phones speed

this site is good too for testing

http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] gator2k83:
http://www.speedtest.net/mini.php

use the stock ie that comes with the phone.. works great.. I just got

1048 d

332 u

I normally get test results between 1200 and 1500 d for my area.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] gator2k83:
for a better view tap screen over the test and hold till the full screen pops up... looks sweet in landscape.... we need to port this into a standalone app.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] colorado_al:
Slower today, but still not bad!

My internet speed is slower today but still better than I got with AT&T.

GO SPRINT!!!

1.2Mbps
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] colorado_al:
Like speedtest.net!

I think speedtest.net is probably more accurate, but still way fast compared to AT&T
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] jtlyons:
What are you guys doing to get high speeds like that?
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] myrandex:
I don't think that mobilespeedtest is accurrate. I am on EDGE only on my Touch Pro 2, and it has told me multiple times with different file sizes ~ 1.5mb / second. Either that or AT&T's combatting the "map for that" add with kicking but on EDGE speeds, but I do know that it is impossible (and no I'm not accidentally connected to WiFi or anything like that).

Jason
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] AstronusX:
Mobile Speed test quote my speed runs at 22MBPS which is not right. I tether to my computer and speed is 1.9mbps using Wifi and usb is about 1mbps. So I guess USB has lower speed than wifi speed.
[General Questions and Answers] PharrellVP:
Hi. I brought Qtek 9100, but the problem is that it is in German. I can't change the language (it's not possible by its settings). I installed new ROM (WWE - i don't know what does it mean, but friend of mine said it) in Eglish, then after restarting i srats extrakting something by itself. The pocket is O2 (it has a brand). So, my question is:

How could I change once for all the language from German to English?

Help me, please!
[General Questions and Answers] orb3000:
Welcome to forums

Perhaps the ROM you are using is not in WWE

I would reflash to another WWE ROM here:

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=356

You can enven have a wm6.5!

Good luck,
[General Questions and Answers] PharrellVP:
Someone told me that wm6.5 would be "heavy" for Qtek 9100. Is that right?

By the way, I couldn't find wm6.1, only wm6.5. Can I have a little help with locating wm6.1?
[General Questions and Answers] orb3000:
Well, that will depend on how much RAM you have, but see my example: I´m running 6.5 ROM on my Universal 64Mb of RAM and all goes good!, of course slightly slower than 6.1 but it´s worth to have the new one!

Please use search to find 6.1!

Here 2 examples:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=409491

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=430197
[General Questions and Answers] PharrellVP:
Really, I can't handle with it. I didn't find any ROm out there. Please, give me a hand with this.
[General Questions and Answers] PharrellVP:
Can't anyone help me to fix it? I can't remove this German language...
[General Questions and Answers] PharrellVP:
Please, help me to fix it.
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] TF23:
I no longer can access the memory card of 2GB of Artemis ...

Reset ... and asks if I want to format the card to access the same

1 - If you say yes ... says it is not possible when formatting and put another card to re-install it

2 - If you say no ... and still not gain access to the same card

This card works in other equipment ...

Does anyone have any idea how to solve this ...

PS: The card and the rom are the same as the times when everything worked well

Thank you very much

TF23
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] farukb:
and what the hell does this have to do with artemis mobile 6 thread...:mad::mad::mad:

go to proper section and post....do not spam THIS board

we don't have a damn mod over here so we can only sit and watch people's crap all over the place

SO PLEASE BE CAREFUL WHEN POSTING....PLEASE

sorry for flaming you...it has nothing to do with you having 2 posts but has to do with you not wanting read
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] JoeWilcox:
I'm thinking about buying a TMobile Touch Pro 2 and using it on AT&T. All the delays coupled with the lame keyboard is making me look elsewhere. If I unlock a TMobile TP2 or a sprint one, is it compatible with AT&T 3G network?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] hollywould:
No, unfortunately none of them will work on AT&T's 3G network. They will however work on Edge. I too really hate the keyboard on the AT&T version. Why can't they just leave it alone. Why does AT&T have to mess up all the HTC phones.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] JoeWilcox:
Crap.. I'll have to keep looking for a replacement keyboad. I replaced my Fuze's and I'd never go back. Screw you AT&T. I'm so considering a switch to Verizion in Jan when my contract is up.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] hollywould:
I'm with you buddy. You changed the keyboard on your Fuze? How hard was that to do?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] JoeWilcox:
Changing the fuze keyboard is really easy. There's a good thread about it but it was basically just taking off a sticky overlay. Look like 2 mins.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] pdaimatejam:
Temiz eklentisiz Rom hazırlamaya çalıştım

depolama:42 mb program:17 mb

Rom resimlerden anlaşıldığı gibi english versiyon hazırladım

http://www.ctrlpda.com/showthread.php?tid=6950
[Touch GSM ROM Development] masrawy96:
Download link

This is the download link of the rom : http://uploaded.to/file/99x9g9

And am sorry for "pdaimatejam" who posts this thread and the rom owner too

i sended this link trying to help users

who can't read turkish

am sorry for my bad english
[Touch GSM ROM Development] tijolo:
[QUOTE = This is the download link of the rom : http://uploaded.to/file/99x9g9

And am sorry for "pdaimatejam" who posts this thread and the rom owner too

i sended this link trying to help users

who can't read turkish

am sorry for my bad english [/ QUOTE]

what is the pass of rar
[Touch GSM ROM Development] algarin0646:
please send password for the rar. thank you
[Touch GSM ROM Development] tijolo:
password = ctrlpda
[Touch GSM ROM Development] algarin0646:
you're the best thanx
[Touch GSM ROM Development] hirencj:
try

can i try this rom on my elfin??:confused:
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Nullstring:
cool! will flash this now!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] ZenecadE:
To the ROM owner, thanks for a cool release. It does indeed work on my elfin. Haven't come across any bugs yet but there are 2 things that i don't quite like with this ROM. Firstly, the lack of Java so need to install that yourself. Secondly, the input. It's dreadfully small and being used to the larger keyboards, I find it slightly annoying to have to tug out the stylus. All in all though, it's fast and friendly. Hope to see some more good work from the creator.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Nullstring:
addition to this is..

why is your pdaimagejam included in the build version

How to remove this?

and how to make the font smaller in bottom bar (menubar)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Nullstring:
bug

in:

SMS

Send button is not working

MessageBox

NO BUTTONS!!

:)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Nullstring:
when will the Send button bug be fix?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] flaviopac:
Is the top taskbar a built-in feature of the leatest WM 6.5 builds or is there any cab for it...? :p
[Touch GSM ROM Development] pdaimatejam:
sms

bug

in:

SMS

Send button is not working

MessageBox

NO BUTTONS!!

how I edit

thanks