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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rvashi:
Shadowline, any updates??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vader165:
hopefully a cleaner 23089 is in the works, but i wouldn't be suprised if it does take a while... just look at the time between past updates. i'm not saying that he's not hard at work on it, it's hard to do because he doesn't even have the phone.... :D that said, i am also eagerly awaiting an update!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rvashi:
Shadowline...

Could you PLEASE make an AT&T version also from now on?? Everyone that's using the AT&T Tilt 2 (Also the AT&T Pure) is having issues with the dialer. There seems to be a delay when answering calls. The answer slider gets stuck for a few seconds and even if you use the hard key, the call doesn't connect for a few seconds and then it picks up.

Reference to this problem are in the Topaz forums...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=578989

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=571462

I sent you a tweet about this too. I love your ROMs but this is really a very annoying issue. It exist in every ROM, not just your's....every ROM that uses any other dialer besides the AT&T dialer or Leo dialer.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dwlacy:
delay issue

:(

same delay issue on my att tilt 2.....mildly annoying but can live with it, but rom with the leo or att dialer would be nice

overall its a fantastic rom....:cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shadowline:
Hmm, I wonder why there is a delay issue? Technically I am using my Topaz on AT&T and do not experience it, so I wonder what is in the hardware/software that is causing this.

Anyway to do an AT&T build so to speak, I would need to replace the dialer with the default one. And by doing so, I believe that the contact photos in the dialer would no longer work because of the newer manila files not agreeing with the older dialer. But I could be wrong as I have not tried this myself.

Also, a new rom is in the works, and is currently testing over on the topaz front. Here is a quote from my post over there (to save you link clicking. :D)

I am hoping to have the Topaz and rhodium version up by sometime tomorrow, that gives me time to bugfix before releasing a bit more if any is needed.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rvashi:
I think your Topaz is not having any issues because its a original HTC Topaz and not a AT&T Pure...am I right? I believe its only the AT&T devices that are having the issues such as AT&T Pure and AT&T Tilt 2 (previous generation devices were also having the same issue...such as Fuze).

Also, if you have problems with the AT&T dialer, go ahead and try the Leo dialer. The Leo dialer also works perfectly with AT&T devices.

I'm really excited to try the new ROM so I hope you release it soon....I am even definately up for a Test ROM...how about it, tonight?? :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shadowline:
As you wish. Here is a test rom. :D http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6EXG7IOF

Video preview (from the topaz) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZzgUi7szX4
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rvashi:
Oookay...now that's AWESOME! Hey Shadowline, you've got a believer in me! haha

Will flash now and post bugs and updates tomorrow morning.

....26MB Pagepool...seriously?? This should be fun!! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shadowline:
hehe thank you. Note that it does say the file is a release. That is because It could be. It seems stable so far, but there could be a few bugs to work out before the next actual "release." If there are no major bugs then this will go to a release.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vader165:
latest news making the rounds is that 21609 is the latest and best since it's htc optimized. would that be a new build option? thanks for this latest release, will flash immediately.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rvashi:
Shadowline, the release is absolutely stable. I have found nothing so far besides the pesky dialer issue (which still persist). I think you just need to stick in the Leo dialer and just make that a seperate version (don't worry about the AT&T dialer).

Aside from that, I saw your preview video and everything works absolutely wonderfully!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] zengyee:
What's New in 23506? I encountered 3 times black-screen in 23088x3, (have to reset to reboot), hope this issue been fixed in 23506:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shadowline:
I will stay away from that build for now, just because I have heard it is based on an older WM build than what we have now.

I will see, if I can remember how to edit the dialer to fix the issue of not working with the new WM builds lol

So far the only real bug that seems rather bad, is when you receive a text, the screen turns on. Other than that, I have not had to reset the device since I flashed it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rvashi:
Noticed a couple of things...

1) The Home tab slows down a decent amount after you set the 6 quick access buttons. This is on a 26MB Pagepool. I was under the impression that the up and down scroll [on the Home tab] slows down because of placing a wallpaper but that's incorrect to some extent.

2) New battery charging status while device idle (black screen) does not seem to function while connected to a PC. This doesn't necessarily have to be a bug, it may just be as designed.

Aside from that, everything works great! Rotation is back to normal and works flawlessly!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shadowline:
#2 only works when in standby, but it seems to work from any charging source. To get it to show you up must use the power key to enter standby mode while charged, then it will work.

I have also noticed that if left for a while, the battery icon jumps around much like a screensaver.

It would be interesting to know if this can be modified to show time, or notifications aswell.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vader165:
rotation is not working for me, photos and music remain portrait.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rvashi:
CORRECTION...

Rotation still does not work.

Maybe I had a dream about it working. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vader165:
darn, got my hopes up. still, maybe sense 2.5 build 1921 could help? shadowline you follow?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4956649&postcount=2

[2009-11-16] [ORIGINAL] MANILA 2.5 1921 WVGA ...... [ DOWNLOAD ALL ] provided by btxakita *
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rvashi:
Good find vader (build 1921)! Hopefully shadowline can incorporate this along with the pesky dialer issue in the next update.

The overall ROM seems very stable otherwise.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shadowline:
Hmm good find, thank you. I will be testing this right now, and If I have the time before work tomorrow I will upload a new test rom (if it works tonight that is. :P)

Edit:

A new fix for roms already flashed, and having the g-sensor problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vader165:
great news! eagerly awaiting your updateperhaps you can enlighten me on why the phone keeps nagging for time zone selection?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rvashi:
Okay so I found the Leo dialer cab from Valkarie's ROM thread. I tried it out but unfortunately it doesn't work for us. It installs fine but after restart, there are no changes.

I'm attaching the cab here for everyone.....Shadowline, just incase you didn't have it ready.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pjm77:
Hi!

First of all - a million thanks go to Shadowline. The rom works great, it's actually the first cooked ROM that doesn't give me any major problems (the word STABLE seems to be heavily abused in this subforum).

Got couple of questions:

-is there a way to skin the taskbar without losing it's functionality? I've tried my favourite Brian's taskbar but it causes some graphical glitches and the popup doesn't show up anymore - I find it really useful for checking for missed calls since Manila 2.5 doesn't show them on home screen..

-is there any way to add or remove any functions from that taskbar popup? Task manager would be great there...

-is there a way to get the usual HTC volume slider? I always use single volume and that double slider looks a bit scary...

-I find it really frustrating that red button doesn't get me back to home tab sometimes. Esp. coming back from writing a text message takes ages and bazilion clicks. Is there a setting or reg key for that?

-there are couple of apps (ie MyLifeOrganized) that use OK button located in the right corner of the taskbar. This OK button doesn't show up anymore. Is it ROM or rather WM 6.5.1? Any ideas how to get it back there?

Overall - fantastic ROM, my favourite so far. Not a single crash in two days of heavy use. I find it hard to believe after all I went through;) Love the all the interface details, nice taste.

Any help with any of above would be greatly appreciated.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vader165:
let's run through these

1. bottom/top taskbar?, also you might want to find a 6.5.1 compatible skin.

2. specify "taskbar popup" like when you tap the top curtain a list of thing flows down?

3. this was answered previously, htc volume slider doesn't play very nicely, double slider is just for ring and system, no biggie...

4. what is this red button you speak of? back button usually works right?...

5. hmm, probably app incompatibility, can you find a replacement

sorry if i couldn't be more help, some descriptions were vague.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fosterside:
First off, thanks for the great ROM, by far the most stable I have used since getting my Tmo TP2.

I just recently flashed the test rom - 23506x1 and noticed that when using IE Toggle 1.1 and selecting PIE (some sites I frequent require PIE such as logmein.com), it doesn't seem to work. It pops PIE but when trying to connect to a site it just simply displays a blank screen even though it goes through the motions Connecting --> Loading --> Opening.

Probably just some sort of incompatibility with the new build but thought I would get your thoughts as it worked fine on version 23088x3

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Kiekeboe100:
Hi,

First I want to say that I really love your rom. It's the first one I'm using for over a month now, without having too much annoying bugs.

But of course, there are still problems :)

I'm using the 23501 build.

- When enabling bluetooth, the comm manager still thinks bluetooth is off, tapping again to disable bluetooth isn't working.

- As already said several times, screen rotationg doesn't work, altough this isn't an issue for me, what I do mis is the ability to turn the phone on speaker mode by turning it upside-down, or to silence a call by turning the phone.

- It also seems impossible to turn off the wheather animation on the home tab since manilla build 1920. The device is much slower when this is turned on, especially when those clouds are flying over and i'm trying to open an application from the home tab.

Also a suggestion, opera mobile 10 is out from today :)

Also, a task manager would be nice to have prebuilt in the rom (if there is one, I can't find it :))

thank you for this rom. It's the only rom that could persuade me to stay.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vader165:
well, up above he said he would test 2.5 1921, which might help, also 23506 is already out, the weather is full speed, opera 10 might be a nice idea

but, i do agree, a cooked-in task manager and accelerometer functions might be welcome back.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rvashi:
Shadowline, any ETA on the next update test ROM?

Anxiously awating your next ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ppsychol:
I just installed the Test Build 23506 and the camera doesn't start

says the camera.exe cannot be opened

anyone else ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rvashi:
+1

I have the same problem!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Kiekeboe100:
Disabled the weather wallpaper by selecting animated wallpaper, and then by choosing a static image. The home tab is much more responsive now, programs open faster (without having to tap a couple of times on them).

Also scrolling up and down stays fast, even when every icon is linked.

Also tried some things to fix the rotation, altough not working:

I changed the registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\HTCSensor\GSensor: CheckingTime from 65000 to 200 (like posted previously).

altough this didn't change anything.

also tried changing the keys "gsensorstatus", "phonecallmute" and "phonecallspeakeron" to 1. But this doesn't change anything either (yes i restarted after the changes).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rvashi:
So do you leave it as no image (black background) or can you pick an alternative static image?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Kiekeboe100:
I'm using the same background that comes with the theme. Only without the animated wheather (wich I find rather useless, you know enough from the little icon under the clock :))
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rvashi:
Thanks for the quick reply.

Are you having the camera issue also? camara.exe cannot be opened or whatever!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dyra502:
wow dis rom look gud can this port over to cdma
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rvashi:
Shadowline, you are the man!! Like I said, you've got a believer in me!! :)

I'm downloading it right now as we speak and THANKS A BUNCH for the Leo dialer!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vader165:
i'd like to say thanks along with rvashi, you should now change your signature banner to 6.5.2 lol.

but... rotation is still broken, probably sdkcerts problem, not sense or wm. just doesn't read accelerometer.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] zengyee:
Decide to taste 28002:)

Shadowline, you are the man!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shadowline:
Yes, it is a bug across both the topaz and rhodium versions. I have ruled out everything in the oem section and the g-sensor ext files as a cause for the bug, so now I am at a loss. I have looked and looked over the reg files included but have not found anything out of the ordinary or anything not set correctly.

The manila tabs can use it (when the fix is applied to make the g-sensor check time back to normal, which i can also not find for the life of me.) Teeter can use it without the fix, the calibration utility can use it. I just do not understand where the problem is.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wicksie:
Yep, same here camera :o( lovely ROM though
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] zengyee:
The camera on 28002 works well.

but, 28002 becomes very very slow after Active Sync with my PC.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Kiekeboe100:
I don't have this issue because I'm still using 23501. Read too much problems with the newer builds so I'm waiting a bit longer :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jafaifo:
the rom

give that rom in german?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] zengyee:
23506 has the same issue plus camera issue.

I guess the issue should be related with voice command, as I got the error message say voice command fail to start ...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] saints5354:
Build 28002:

- Lagging home tab if u choose weather wallpaper

- G.Sensor doesn't work

- Extremely fast

- Camera works

- My Location work

- Wish to have 3G Dialer (Personel wish, any cab for that)

Good job Shadow, great ROM.

* EDIT: Home Tab choose weather wallpaper no more lagging ... funny.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] humayunl:
3G dialer

Excuse my ignorance, but what is this 3G dialer that is being referred here? What is the difference between it and the dialer that is in the latest shadowline ROM?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] saints5354:
Pardon me, i mean Video Call Dialer.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kenikh:
This ROM is fantastic - not without a few bugs mentioned above (also having slowness on ActiveSynch to PC). Other than a slight rendering glitch after bootup where the Home screen is painted about 20 pixels too low (and resolves itself after pressing "Start"), I am in full production using this ROM without issues. The rotate issues are a bit annoying, but very tolerable.

Great work!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] anthnhlt:
Anyone Found Fixes to These Problems

Has anyone found fixed any of the following problems:

1. The nagging time zone issue - Constantly pops up every now and again.

2. Bluetooth will not turn off through the com Manager. You have to go into All Settings, Bluetooth to turn it off.

Other than those everything seems to be working great. Those issues are really annoying if anything doesn't take away from a great ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rvashi:
ALRIGHT! So far so good!! Excellent ROM overall...Bravo Shadowline!

Now if we can figure out the darn Rotation issue. I know you had put a cab up for the gyrator or something...but that doesn't seem to work!?!?! It just crashes at startup.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] e_dogg:
It seems like others have reported this, but the camera isn't working for me on 23506. Though I don't get any error messages like others have reported. It just plain doesn't work.

Other than that, I'm very pleased with this ROM. I've tried 5-6 ROMs from other XDA chefs and so far this is my favorite.

BTW, landscape mode works with SMS/email, which is what really counts in order to use the keyboard.

Edit: I just tried pairing my bluetooth headset and it can't seem to find it. The bluetooth icon is on and, as others have reported, the switch in the comm manager doesn't appear to work (it's stuck in the "off" position).

Unfortunately, if bluetooth doesn't work that's a dealbreaker...gotta have my headset so I don't get pulled over (it's a primary offense here in California).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cris_rowlands:
so, is there any fix for this camera issue that keeps popping up?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shadowline:
It takes a few seconds to correct itself, but it will on its own. It does not need any interaction, just patience. There is a lot to load at first boot.

Update via reflash. If you would like to wait for 23509 that will be up by sometime tomorrow.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wicksie:
Thank you Sir
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dwlacy:
trouble with rom loading

have issues getting either Build 28002x1 or Build 23506x1 to load....have to do a soft reset multiple times....appears tf3d is cause because if i disable it i have no issues loading

rom runs fantastic when it does finally load :p

currently running rom 23088x3
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] humayunl:
SPKR Phone not working when i turn over the phone

When i turn over the phone during a call, the speakerphone light does light up, but the phone doesn't switch to speakerphone mode.

i know this was reported in an earlier build, but it sill hasnt been fixed.

Can anyone else confirm they are also having this issue.

Shadowline, are you planning to address it in a future version?

I'm running 28002.

Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] elementur:
You've made an awesome ROM, Shadowline. It looks great, runs very smooth and is very quick. The only thing I can suggest is making a "Lite" version of the 28002 build with only the bare minimum needed. Maybe the new dialer, HTC keyboard, and Opera 9.5 added in.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vader165:
shadowline have most (if not all) possible leo packages been updated to this rom? i was also wondering if in your next update it would include 10 + 10, being office 2010 and opera 10. thanks for the amazing rom!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dwlacy:
awesome rom

running 28002x1 rom

figured out it was the 1% battery driver that was causing the rom not to load :eek:

phone now stable and running fast :cool:

a lite version of 28002 would be nice

keep up the great work shadowline
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vader165:
might want to hold that thought, just go after 28004 and sense 2.5 1925. (i think that's out, may be mistaken)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jopherr:
does manila only mean

titanium wont work?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dwlacy:
23509 for rhodium

shadowline

any plans for a rhodium version of 23509?

i tried the one on the topaz thread, but it wouldn't install....incompatible model :o
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] madman1520:
for some reason when i change the theme (to say autumn) it doesnt fully change all of the task bars and menu bars color, only some of them, i have tried a soft reset after, and also diable and reenable sense, but still nothing, any ideas?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vader165:
shadowline,

can we expect a 28005 refresh with rotastrain's new sense 2.5 landscape cooked in. then the universe shall be complete!:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shadowline:
Quite possibly. It is a holiday here, which for me means loads of work so I have not had much time to work on anything outside of that.

Try changing themes to anything else, and then changing back again. For some reason it does not always set it properly.

Anyway, possibly look forward to landscape sense 2.5 as long as I can incorporate it without breaking anything, any slowdowns, or such.

http://pocketnow.com/tweaks-hacks/htc-sense-touchflo-3d-25-gains-landscape-mode

(also notice in the article, one of the theme wallpapers. :D)

(Edit: just noticed Vader's question after I posted lol - 23005 is in the plans when I get time.)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vader165:
nice! that's great to hear. i hope you have a happy holiday all the same! eagerly waiting to see what the finished product will be!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] coldcarbon:
I wondered if you had tried to cook up an AT&T version with the Leo dialer yet. The other dialers don't work on the AT&T Pure. Well, they do for outbound calling, but they're very buggy for inbound calling.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vader165:
hey, if you've got the pure, you might want to go to the topaz forums. he'll be able to help you better there. this is rhodium tilt 2 area.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] coldcarbon:
My bad. I know Shadowline does Topaz ROMs too, and I must have jumped forums after a search. <exits stage left>
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shadowline:
The leo dialer is default in both topaz and rhodium builds for those of you with the proper AT&T devices.

Also, the new build has been uploaded with all known bugs fixed, except a new bug of double icons in the settings, which is a slip-up on my part but since it is not a serious bug, I am releasing it so you all can have it now.

Check the download post for a changelog.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rvashi:
Thank you so much Shadowline for a awesome update!!

And thanks A LOT for making the Leo dialer default in the ROMs. It will make us AT&T users life a lot easier.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shadowline:
I will be testing the landscape hack now for possible inclusion in the next release. If anyone here tests it too, let me know. Also an FYI, all my roms come default with mortscript installed, so you do not need to install it unless you have problems with it.