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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
No... Page pool size??? Nah...probably not, since you don't need separate roms to change that. :confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Already got the non cookie on my Hard Drive and the 23114 LEO-0

Waiting for the last one to be uploaded

Would be nice to have Agent 47 explanations before flashing so to know what to test. But given the time now he must be in bed sleeping. I bet he put his ROMs to be ftp-ed one after one when he went to bed last night

Besides would be nice to have an opinion (from the chef or from some other thread) about which recent built are stable/fast. Too many out there (and to be honest retrying my TP2 (European version) vs my Tilt2, which still has 28232, I can tell you in the end I see absolutely no real speed difference...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Also for people who use them, Japanese font don't work on 23113

I bet the same for Chinese... I remember some people having this issue on some built before and they fixed it. Anyone has an idea how to do so ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sri4xda:
LOL Agent, I am not that intelligent to have a theory, it was just the opinion gathered from others. Moreover I was a symbian fan, but now looking forward to windows mobile, just a noobie of winmo.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sri4xda:
Just trying out your new ROMs. Got TP2 for 2 more days.

What (magic) did you do Agent?

23113 LEO has ~85 MB RAM on initial start up with winmo today screen atleast for me.

23114 LEO 22 has ~98 MB RAM on initial start up with winmo today screen. Initial impression is, it is faster atleast faster than 23113.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Couldn't resist... I flashed LEO-22 :)

Will report later

It's fast. But to be honest I don't see any major speed difference with the previous version of 23113

But yes more memory :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Impressive

The 23114 LEO-0 beats all I ever saw before... 100 MB of free memory without Manilla

And it is really really fast... Very impressive

What did you do to it ????

That said agent 47, why do you favor the line 231xx over 235xx ? or 25xxx ? Can't apply to these ones the magic you apply to 231xx ? Or they are slower anyway ?

And what about extenddir ? No interest ? Even f takes a bit of memory it seems to improve performance a lot

*** Edit: with Sense, only 65 MB free whereas 23114 LEO-22 has 75 MB free with Sense... My mistake I didn't check LEO-22 without Sense. Maybe it was higher than 100 MB free memory

Got carried away a bit quickly... 23559 is fast too...And contrary to what it name seems to imply... it does have Cookie Mod :(

Memory without Sense is also around 100 Mb, but with Sense it's a bit better (68 Mb)

Now... mmhh hard to know which one to chose...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alcibiade:
OK I reflashed a couple of times...

They roughly all have the same free memory without Sense, feel all as fast as each other (Yes really...) BUT and there is a big but, the LEO-22 ha more memory free than the others, roughly 75 Mb. The LEO-0 only has 65 Mb. While 23559 is doing a bit better with 68 Mb free

Voila...

Now agent 47 can maybe explain us what he tweaked there :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Are those free-ram-with-Sense numbers you're reporting for a system with nothing else running/installed?

I flashed 23114LEO-22, but also installed everything else I normally do, with Exchange-Activesync running, etc., and I have 65MB free after boot...compared to your 75MB. I did it this way to make it easier for me to compare to what I'm used to.

(BTW: It seems that the nice-looking volume-key app isn't running...but since this is a test rom, I'm not really complaining.)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alcibiade:
This is without installing anything. Just fist boot, after waiting a few minutes and then just checking Sense as the home screen

I flashed most of them twice with same results

As far as speed is concerned I can't see much difference between all of them (Maybe all are a bit faster than my good old 28232, but hardly noticeable. Going to bed now and hoping to see interesting stuff when I wake up tomorrow :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Yeah...I'm probably not a good judge of speed (except what I've posted about Sense-scrolling speed of the wonderful 25009TR2.5)....but I don't see much/any difference from what I'm used to in recent Valky roms.

Don't get me wrong -- 23114LEO-22 is certainly fast...just not noticeably faster -- to me.

Maybe I'll do a quick flash of the 23114Leo-0 version and check it out before sleep (me, not the phone).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
chinese font works fine with a reg mod :)

i prefer 231xx over 235xx as 231xx has better font rendering and is faster :) 25xxx im not so keen as it is same as 231xxx, with a lil slowness

page pool changes work better when cooked in....thats the difference. also compared to 23113, i have removed some services and cleaned up some reg keys

is it any faster compared to previous 23113. sense in LEO-0 is almost smooth as silk for me. i have 6 shortcuts added to program tabb.

my memory analysis is that LEO-0 starts ff with a lot more ram and slowly climbs....but ram is not cleared since pagepool is 0. but it does feel a whole lot faster

m i only imagining?:rolleyes:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wagool:
I'll try the 23559,thanks to agent!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
So the -0 and -22 are the pagepool sizes as I guessed earlier?? :D

23114LEO-0 is on it's first boot now, so we'll see in a bit how it is.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
yes!

here is the vol fix :)

View attachment 312077
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] peterbodea:
People can't hear me ... I can hear them..

(23113.5.3.5) - is the Leo WWE OS installed (2 days ago). I realised today the people could not hear me at all. I called my own home number, and there was no signal from the microphone of the TP2. I rebooted and it was all good, but later today it happened again. I rebooted again and it was ok for a while. Anyone else having this issue? Any fixes for it? Radio: 4.49.25.57

One more thing: the "reject a call with a text" feature works, but I always have to EDIT the text before sending it even though I unchecked the box in the phone options.

Thank you for helping!!! I love this ROM (it is the first one besides the TmoUs).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
run the voice recorder and see if it detects your voice.....but i don have this..

report back and we will start from there again
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] peterbodea:
Thank you! I will try to do that tomorrow as soon as it happens again. Thank you. By the way, the GPS locked in after 5-6 tries. So... hopefully it will lock in without problems from now :-)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] peterbodea:
Is there any way we can have the old task manager (used to be on the TmoUS ROM in the top right corner). It displayed the memory used along with the programs + it had a good menu with settings.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
It should still be there. Have you pressed on the little clock in the upper right of the screen? It's there in 23114.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] peterbodea:
Yup! it was there ... who could tell...:) Is 69% with all the programs closed in there a good memory usage?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
23114LEO-0

I don't know if it's faster or smoother...but it sure eats up ram fast! :p

@agent_47 (and anyone else): So, in the spirit of testing things...if you're not doing anything... Here's a test you might try to see if I'm crazy/imagining things on my part -- on my frequently-mentioned issue of "25009TR2.5 is faster on Sense screens".

The speed difference may not be obvious (though it is to me) on the Home tab, but check this out:

Go to the Sense Stocks tab, then bring out the keyboard to put it in landscape mode. Now press the Menu key and watch how the menu pops up. On 25009TR2.5 (and maybe 25007 and earlier...not sure) it's fluid. On later releases it's jerky and not fluid.

So, does this jerky behavior on one tab in landscape matter? No...but it's an easier way to see that something is different in releases after 25009. As I've said too often (:o) I also notice a difference in vertical scrolling on the Home tab...but it's not as obvious as the Menu action on the Stocks tab in landscape mode....

....unless I'm crazy and/or imagining things... :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jcm999:
Agent, after testing the new releases with my standard configuration I did not see any noticeable speed changes from 23113LEO. Below are my free RAM numbers after a soft reset:

23113LEO = 61MB

23114_0LEO = 60MB

23114_22LEO = 66MB

Also, on both of the 23114 versions the phone dialer is messed up. First of all the "Talk" button is blue instead of green but more importantly, once you go on-line there are 2 screens over-writing each other so the "Keypad" and "End" buttons are not readable. See examples below.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Gandhi70:
i am still running valkyrie.ftp v6.3.25010TR2.5 and i have one minor problem.

when i type a sms, there is no character count which shows me, how many chars i have left for the sms.

is there any way, to enable this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Agreed ! We are probably not very far from the max WM 6.5 can do for this device
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Would you have the reg mod for me please ? :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] electrikjesus:
I am getting the same issue. It happens when I enable Speakerphone. The mic won't work after this. on any application until I turn off the Audio Boost in the system panel. then reset.

I have been looking for a fix all over and nothing so far

T-mo US Touch Pro 2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dinky:
Check here
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
I see a new ROM going up on http://valkyrie.htc-files.com/:

tp2_firestorm_v6.4.23114LEO-f5.7z

But upload seems to be currently stalled...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
ya....wat can i say...power is out for n hour :p

but its only a bug fix rom

-teeter

-phone canvas

-volfix
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
No prob...I'm at work and shouldn't even be messing with stuff now anyway... :o :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dinky:
Activesync problem

I have a problem with Activesync since 23113, and same in 23114. I'm syncing e-mail, calendar, and tasks through Exchange direct push, and contacts, notes, favorites and files with my PC. First, I lost the option to sync notes with my PC, The check box is not there for notes under options. Second, every time I connect to phone to the PC, it re-sync all the files between the phone and the PC instead of just quickly check for changes. Anybody seeing the same symptom? Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dinky:
What's the page pool size? Have we reached a conclusion that which setting is better? Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dinky:
SIP change problem

I used to be able to change SIP from English keyboard input to Chinese hand-writing input through QuickMenu SIP setting. I think that's the only way to switch between the two since 28232? Now I no long be able to do that in 23114. Any thought? Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
trying our 18MB right now :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dinky:
Downloading... Will flash after it's done. But can you comment on the problem that I mentioned about Activsync and SIP changes? Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jcm999:
I have a similar problem but not exactly like yours. I don't use an Exchange Server, everything is sync'd directly to my PC. But since 23113 my "notes" (from Outlook) will no longer sync at all. I went back to 25009 and it sync'd the notes correctly. I don't know why this would happen but WinMo handles Outlook Notes rather funny. Even though it displays notes with the WinMo "Notes" application, it also displays all of the notes in "My Documents" on your device (if it properly syncs them). Perhaps this causes some anomalies in this area.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ctbear:
Same here, using 23559 no-cookie version

The two buttons are still functional though, just look very bad :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dinky:
Chines support problem, again - in 23114LEO.f5

I just flashed 23114LEO.f5. My Chinese font support cab will not install. It just simply quit installed and said install is unsuccessful. Any thought?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Thanks !!

It worked for Japanese :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ctbear:
What cab are you using? I have Droid.cab installed with no problem
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Since you pulled off the other ROMs I guess it's your final take ? :)

Is that "the one" to have ? :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Something very weird: my Exchange email is 3 hours late... No idea why. Maybe Outlook on this ROM checks the exchange server date and time and this one is not in the same timezone

first time I see that though (I am on 23113)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dinky:
I'm using Ricky's Yahei full font extracted from Win7.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] YellowGTO:
Okay

What is the dif from, Normal leo, F5 and No cookie version.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] maxima00se:
So I have been running the 25009 build for awhile which is near perfect other then the slow wifi disable and the lag after closing an SMS (is there a fix for this?). I have a hard time keeping track of all the builds, but is there a recommended build out now that is as quick and stable with all working menus and such? I guess this question goes out to all the testers. Thanks for all your hard work and Agent, best rom I have ever used on a phone. Thanks a bunch.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lennyz1988:
Leo = Manila from the htc Leo, so you will have footprints and documents tabs and with the cookie home screen mod.

F5 = Manila from the Rhodium, so you will not have footprints and documents and with the cookie home screen mod.

No cookie version = Manila from the Leo without the cookie home screen mod.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Probably 23114 LEO-F5
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] r.mrazik:
Does anybody have a problem with synchonization with the facebook account? When I loggin to FB, it doesnt download photos and status to my contacts in sense... :mad:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stroker507:
Nice works, but 25009 has already long time in my phone thats a record for me.., has calmed my addiction to flash.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rorijam:
Mr. Agent 47:

Hi,

I would like to inform that Your ROM wich is my favorite, no longer plays MP4 h264 videos with sound, this feature was one of the reasons why is my favorite, I think something went wrong with the april 19th upgrade.

I am sure this is temporal..:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vonschau:
25010 30th march

agent_47, for sure you moved on, but I stll love 25010 best, stable and fast:)

I had this questions before:

agent_47

1) Mail inbox: the menu doesn't show, even it's there

2) Mail account settings advanced not there

3) Tools-Format SD card doesn't work

4) Footprint - new - opens the camera but that's it ,

you have to go to pictures and than open it for footprint, kind of enoying

Any udates planed?

;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] babak:
I would change the colore of text on manila to balck ,is there any solutione ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
try installi gtx theme

thnx....ill have a look :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ctbear:
Agent, any info on the dialer graphic issues?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jdep1:
hi agent_47 first i wanted to thank you for the great work you have done in your ROMs. i had a suggestion it would be nice to see volDeus Bgtweak integrated on a later release once its stable. just a suggestion ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] babak:
thank you very much for replay,i,m trying the "valkyrie.ftp v6.4.23559EO-no cookie" but in my opinion it has less ram(only 73 mb after a softreset in clean rom), slow, and very cumbersome probably caused by 6.5.5 so i will return to my favorite rom(v6.3.21634TR2.5.7z) the only issue i have in "TR2.5.7z" is the breaked shorcut to opera in internet tab.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dinky:
I'm a long time Valkyrie ROM follower. I remember just not long ago (to me, it's 28232 and eariler), there's really nothing to comment about the new ROMs coming out, besides "Wow, another great ROM", because everything just... works. After 28232, I started to bump into problems - SD Card recognition, Chinese support, Activsync... Don't get me wrong, the ROMs are still getting better - performance wise. I tried 23114f5, and it is "lightening fast", at least for me.I really doubt it seriously that you can make manila with CHT run any faster on TP2, granted that we all know the hardware limitation. But it has several problems that I bumped into, so I have to back out.

Personally, just my humble opinion, I think we started to stress the request for speed more and more, and kind of overlooked the stability. I rely on my phone for work, so I have to run a reliable ROM. I guess I will have to stay with 28232 for a while. Hope a new speedy but stable ROm will be coming up from the horizon soon... Thanks you chef for your hard effort trying to satisfy everybody's requests. Keep up the good work.. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alcibiade:
It works for me. But took a while before actually updating...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] maxima00se:
After trying 114, I think I will go back to 25009. The menus just aren't as quick and it doesn't seem as stable :/. Looking forward to keeping up to date on the newer builds :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lennyz1988:
Read this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=6236782#post6236782 and the post below that one. So I don't think it's a problem of the rom.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] r.mrazik:
Thanks,but it doesn´t work for me...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alcibiade:
25009 is faster / more stable than 25010 ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wagool:
I STILL ON 28232TR2.5,WAITTING FOR THE NEW 28xxx ROM
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rahlquist:
Request for consideration in next rom.

http://pocketnow.com/software-1/google-maps-for-windows-mobile-hits-41-with-voice-search
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Yes, please.

Cool.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
@MCbrian/wagool/anyone: how many programs can u link in home tabb before it starts to feel laggy? on which ever rom u think is the best
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
I've only been quick-linking 8 apps routinely, 'cause that's all I usually want quick access to. But as a test just now I filled up the page with 16...and in terms of Home tab vertical scrolling -- running Co0kie home tab -- it seems almost/maybe the same as with 8 shortcuts...that is, not laggy.

I still think there's just something magic about 25009...in Sense vertical scrolling anyway. ;)

BTW: This past weekend I took some video of Sense animation/screen-motion on my TP2 running 25009 and also running 23113 -- to document the differences. I think I'm not imagining the differences. Maybe I'll upload it and give a link.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
which ROM?

does it have cookie?

yes..the video would be nicer
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
It was the 23113LEO compared to the 25009TR2.5, both with CHT 1.70 installed. There could be a question about comparing LEO to TR2.5...but based on my observations, that's not the difference in this case -- 23112TR2.5 was similar to 23113LEO.

I need to clean-up/edit the video down to a simple comparison, so it may not be until late tonight (GMT-8) that I have anything to show...I'm supposed to be working right now...for a few more hours. :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dizzyraider:
Yes, the 25009TR version has cookie 1.6.1 cooked in by you :)

I have to say, I didn't not know a TP2 with cookie can be that responsive. The slider scrolling speed was exactly as fast as with scrolling with Messages tab! Insane.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Speadge:
hey agent,

just flashed ur 19th apr. 23114 after mic-problems (switching to speake while making a call mutes the mic, even when switching the speaker back off) with the 23113 load.

u know what the problem is?

i can remember having this probem some builds ago...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
And you can install the new-improved-and-wonderful Co0kie HT 1.7.1 on top of the cooked in version and it still works fine. I can't remember if 1.7.1 uninstalled 1.6.1 or not...but either way there's no problem, and with 1.7 there's a major feature-add.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] master_brett:
Lock Screen

I rolled back to the 6.2.25009TR2.5 to try out what seems to be the 'benchmark' ROM. But, this lockscreen is THE WORST. Any suggestion on a fix/alrernative? (I know Agent47 mentioned the normal lockscreen wasn't 100% compatible) Or, should I just switch over to 28232???

Thanks in advance!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Agent 47 what is the LEO 23114 Test 1 ?

Just saw it on your file browser
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wagool:
GoogleMaps v.4.1.0.CAB
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wagool:
My Cookie's Home quiklink usually about 10 apps be used,and I not felling it laggy. I tried the almost all version of yours,they are all fast and great!;)

But the reason of I stay at 28232 yet because it's the best in battery life and the other(fast etc.)

thanks to you!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
So far the best battery life by far is with rom 23519!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
its a test rom trying to determine the speed of the roms....if its restored :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Why I Say Sense Animation is Special (i.e., better) in 6.2.25009TR2.5 Than in ROMs That Followed

OK, I put together the video comparison of a couple of aspects of Sense animation-motion, comparing performance of 6.2.25009TR2.5 with performance of 6.4.23113LEO.

Both of these are running Co0kie's Home Tab v1.7.1.

(Not professional quality I'm afraid :o...I'm a chemical engineer, not a videographer :p)

Compare and decide for yourself. :)

I suppose I should flash 23114 Test1 and check it out, too.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
nice. thnx

im cookin a rom on 25009 to check if its me you the build :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Cool -- I'll be interested in how that turns out.