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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
my notification bar isn working still. will get home in a while.

but phone still ringing.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dbaser:
Sounds good. Count me in...

I'll reflash tp2_firestorm_v5.6.23518LEO-3G after I get my kiddies off to school this morning and try deleting that startup link.

Well... so much for that idea :P
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MiKeMaN:
Same here :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
thanx for all the sh*t load of trouble ur taking for this bug :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dbaser:
No problem. Progress is a messy business :P

And thanks to all of the others here as well.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aadadams:
If I understand your question, my post here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5386642&postcount=3857 gives details. I read that he replaced Opera, yet I could find his exact reasoning or how he traced it to Opera.

Also, I am willing to beta test for as long as necessary.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] AvengerBB:
FYI, After each flash of your ROM I always install Opera 9.7, which as far as I can tell removes the link you are rerring to. Unfortunately, I do always get the rigntone bug.

If you need another tester, let me know.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Grumps:
Im also reflashing now. Ill try and break it till the ringer is gone and see if deleting the shortcut helps. Mine went so faulty the first time that even a soft reset didnt bring the ringer back. I have read that it could be opera so lets hold thumbs. Hope ill be part of the beta testing if you decide to do that but then again we are all here "beta" testing and the more people to test the quicker it will be to sort out problems??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Axiixa:
Ringtone problem related to loading Sense??

I had a chance before work to try and finish this little test. Interesting! I did a hard reset and if Sense is not loaded - only using TI and ROM default settings - I can not get the ringtone or txt notification problem to occur. Everything works as expected! I can use the "oldphone" ringtone and the system does not reset it as it does after loading Sense and I can also use it for txt alerts with no problem. I also have no problems with the notification bar and Youtube works fine (I have never experienced these particular issues with the 21889 ROM).

Although I am using the 5.5.21889 ROM, I experience the same problem - exactly - as MCbrian reports with ringtones and notifications on the 5.6.23518-3G ROM after loading Sense. However, I have never had the Notification bar or YouTube issue at all.

Hope this helps.

Regards.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
installing opera 9.7 wont remove the link

u need to do so manually even if u use opera9.7 cab

lol

i ment which cook was having the problem :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Zahurtex:
I like Opera10 and I can always install it after flash cab is available.:cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dbaser:
I suppose I'll hold off on reflashing tp2_firestorm_v5.6.23518LEO-3G until we can get the notification bar working... unless agent has a quick fix for it...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dbaser:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=571892

He found that cooking Opera10 into the rom causes the ringer issue. I would have to concur as the roms from here and other forums that have Opera10 cooked in also had the same ringer/youtube issues...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Axiixa:
dbaser, if you have time would you be able to test the ringer issue before loading Sense. I tried this and everything works as expected - that is works fine, but you have been into this problem longer than I. It seems that once Sense is loaded it requires a hard reset to clear it. Simply turning it off doesn't seem to work.

Regards.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jsmith8858:
Here's my experience, in case this info is useful:

Running tilt 2, valkyrie.ftp v5.5.23518-2G, noticed that suddenly Kinoma Play had no sound, and Opera (9.7) would occasionally hang while loading. Tried everything, re-installed Kinoma, nothing worked. I did a hard reset, reflashed, things worked for a while, but then eventually Kinoma had no sound again! Also, I experienced random ringtone issues, using WMA files.

Finally, suspecting the dialer, I killed the cprog.exe process and then tried Kinoma again -- and the sound worked! Something in the dialer seems to be directly causing issues with the system sound. Are there other options for dialers we can try that might fix this? An original Titl2 stock dialer ? Something else?

In short, try setting up a notification, killing cprog.exe, and see if the notificaiton sound works. I have a feeling it will, as long as cprog.exe isn't running....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dbaser:
Well I have found as I posted earlier in this thread that if you kill cprog.exe and restart the dialer (by launching the phone) that the ringtones come back without a soft reset. I have tried several dialers during this process as well including disabling the phonecanvas and using the WM dialer. It appears that the dialer may have a memory issue with another piece of software cooked into the ROM... quite possibly Opera10b2...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
if opera is causing it the only thing that is possible in my eyes is the link i requested.

ill cook a rom with opera9.7 and create a group for beta testing tonight :)

ill send out a request to all who have already showed interest and to anyone who will request, but i prefer to have users who has a good the habit of bug fixing and like it:)

i can confirm this
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Axiixa:
Beta testers...

agent_47, if you need another to test, I would be interested.

Regards.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dbaser:
Sounds good. I have to head out on a call but will be back here in a couple hours.

And have you found out why the notification bar isn't working in the latest rom?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] neofral:
i'm charging my phone :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Maverick777:
I can confirm that my ringtone works after killing cprog.exe with cleanram. Not sure how long it will last, but seems to be working even after I relaunch the dialer.

One more observation from yesterday. Sometimes S2P will play with no sound. I can fix this by playing an mp3 using Windows Media Player, then switching to S2P.

There is another "bug" where music plays from the phone speaker even when a headset is plugged in.

Still using 23518 2G with Leo SMS on Tmobile.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vagelis:
Athene ROM has Opera 10 in it and none of the ringer issues
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Zahurtex:
That's what I meant to say as well.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aadadams:
I think the consensus thus far is that it takes an active HTC Sense 2.5 1922 (not 2.1 such as AthineOS) and Opera 10b2 to cause/trigger the issues... But exactly how/what is the true question...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwill:
Correction; AthineOS actually has a 2.5 rom with Opera 10 also http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=612214, and he's right, it doesnt have the ringer issue.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aadadams:
My bad, didn't know b16b moved to 2.5. Darn it, as soon as I think I have some similance of understanding of this issue it all goes out the window... :confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jlavoie:
Athine rom uses manila 2.5.19222911.0 with wm build 23518 and opera 10b2 but leo dialer instead of rhodium dialer. could the rhodium (3g) dialer be some of the issue?

edit: to slow in responding but still wonder about rhodium dialer causing problems with ring.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aadadams:
Hopefully, dbaser (or could have been MCbrian) sees you question as if I am not mistaken he used several dialers in troubleshooting and was not able to eliminate the issue with a new dialer, but I do not know if he tried the Rhodium dialer.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jlavoie:
yes, i just talk to agent_47 and he has tried the different dialers to try and solve problem so please disregard my last post.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
i use opera 10 b2u.....its a has a new feature ....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dbaser:
The feature is called "Silent Ringing"

:P
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
lol

its something to do with a exe running all the time as controlling stuff like mem controlling
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dbaser:
Yeah I kinda figured it was a memory issue. I remember back in the Tilt days with jasjamming we had to remove/add certain apps to avoid those issues. There was always some pesky package or program that caused a ton of crazy issues. You would go through all of the apps that were having the issue only to find it was something else... :/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
sent out a few invites.....uploading atm on ftp but its password protected for your safety :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Axiixa:
It doesn't seem that Opera 10b2 is the culprit. This is cooked in the ROMs which work correctly (ringers, txt notification, notification bar, YouTube) BEFORE sense is loaded (ie. using TI). It seems to be that AFTER Sense is loaded that things start to happen..

Has anyone else tried a hard reset and using TI to test these against these problems before loading Sense to see if my test results hold for others?

Regards.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aadadams:
I meant to convey that it seems that the two are linked to the issues in concert, and note that agent_47 is using 10b2u as opposed to 10b2. Hopefully the concerted efforts during the beta will elucidate and eliminate these issues once and for all...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwill:
Oh, sorry. I think its the same he's using though. Im not on that rom right now, so cant check. But, I dont think Opera is really the culprit, just an opinion. I'm leaning more towards the rhodium dialer although, the rom (ark666 Rhodium_AF) I'm running now doesnt have the problem with ringers and has rhodium dialer.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Maverick777:
I just installed Opera Mobile 9.7 35627Cab from the XDA thread below. This seems to have solved some of my issues.

Ringtone seems to be working fine now without having to kill cprog.exe. S2P works normally (no longer have to play an mp3 with WMP first).

Someone else please try this opera cab if you are having ringtone issues and let's see if it's truly Opera 10b2 causing the issues.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=486502

PS: 9.7 definitely seems more stable than the 10b2 that was cooked into the rom. It hasn't crashed yet.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=618839

something ill be using in the next build once i sort out the ringer thingi :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] neofral:
i like maxy's work better :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MiKeMaN:
Looking forward to that build! I haven't applied for beta-membership since I'm kinda n00b when it comes to this. I install the rom and try it and if I like it I keep it for a while. I love to try everything new and wouldn't hesitate to install betas, but I don't think that I can contribute with much regarding technical hints/tips/ideas.

Btw, there's not much talk about the notification bar that doesn't work? Does everybody have a working bar?

As I said before, the Firestorm is fantastic and I wouldn't flash my phone for a long time if it wasn't for the bugs we are struggling with now...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bacco:
For anyone interested, the 16 quick link cab posted by Agent works like a charm on the 23517 ROM of 1/6/10.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwill:
Maybe wait a second on it until he gets the directories issue sorted out with animated wallpaper when using BG4ALL Landscape cab? If you read the second page, it appears it can be manually fixed also though, but santod wants to see if he can just get it working properly through cab install. Just a thought.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] m_malyszko:
Color Threaded SMS

I love the color threaded sms style look. Does anyone know where i can get a cab for it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aadadams:
Search xda for andynear sms bubble. That is the name of the file I found, but I cannot remember where I found it.

Found it: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=614131
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jcrompton:
What's the advantage of using this verses installing MaxManilla??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] m_malyszko:
thank you for that, i was searching for color threaded sms, which is why i couldn't find anything. thank you so much
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bacco:
All this does is change the 3 button (per row) quick links to 4 per row...simple.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] KevinACrider:
No advantage. MaxManilla is MUCH better, plus it gives you the option for 20 shortcuts too. It's the first thing I install after every flash and I can't for the life of me figure out why a47 hasn't cooked it in yet. It's a must have!

Valkyrie + MaxManilla = Purely Godlike!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aadadams:
I would venture that it's not cooked in because it can be easily installed via cab and is not used/preferred by all users.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Zahurtex:
+1

First thing after flash install MaxManila...and yes its a must have.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xcesivemastub8ah:
+1

I uninstalled it seconds after installing it. It's more than I want/need and find it a completely unnecessary drag on my phone. Leave it out and let the ones that actually like it just carry around the .cab in their mem cards...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] KevinACrider:
When cooked in it uses less resources and runs faster than when installed after-the-fact. As far as nobody using it, I don't see how anyone who has tried it could live without it. If they must, they can disable it.

He's cooking in a cab to give 16 shortcuts. MaxManilla has the option for 9, 12, 16 or 20 and a ton of other things. Each option can be deactivated on it's own.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
it really comes down to user preference. u are right about it running better when cooked in but some if not many (including me) dont like this option.

i was thing of cooking it in in a different way. lets see if i can get myself to make the required modds :p

i will try :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] KevinACrider:
5.6 looks like it will be real nice. It makes me laugh, though, that your cooking in the bg4all cab and the 16 shortcut cab when both are part of Max Manilla.

I'm glad to see Opera 9.7 rather than 10. I never liked 10, it doesn't format web pages nearly as nice as 9.7 does.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] doncompadre:
maybe i am blind, but where to find the link to download 5.6 ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MiKeMaN:
I'm not allowed to post links outside the forum but try to go to:

valkyrie[dot]htc-files[dot]com
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] corzradio:
but whats ...

the password..for the new 5.6..???
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MiKeMaN:
*sorry*

Ah, sorry, didn't know that he did password protect the latest file... :( Just noticed as I was going to unpack that rom now. :( I think it's only for the exclusive "beta test group" to know...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
those are beta test builds.....uploading a 5.6 now :)

some say ringers working perfectly...others say its better

for me utube n ringer works ok.

when reporting these 2 things include radio n operator ur on :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MiKeMaN:
Thanx a lot! Is it a new 5.6? Are there still problems with the notification bar?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Speadge:
hey agent, could u give me the pass for the beta-test rom, pls?

im from germany, using a light-branded rhodium.

SO perhaps some more experience for your ringer issues?

btw, i noticed ringtone(mp3) just ringing 2 seconds when power-cradled (im on 5.5.23518).

in other situations it works quite good.

anyone experienced this yet?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Zahurtex:
I see change log for 5.6 but still there is no link. Max Manila modds...is it cooked in the rom or what? as 2.82 expected soon!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
i saw that. so i decided to leav it out this time

hold up a few for upload 2complete
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Speadge:
uploading atm.

(80 MB done) ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Zahurtex:
Humm...could have 2.81 cooked in.:(

*Edit

NRGs already got 2.82 and uploading new roms now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cr1960:
maybe a poll on Max Manila cooked in or not? put me down for a 'no'....

version changes often and, imho, it makes the home screen look like crap.

but, some people love it. go figure. :confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Zahurtex:
I do not understand why you call it crap...its somebodys hard work and if you don't like it its your personal opinion ...but I think it makes your screen look good.

nrg has two versions of his roms standard and with maxmanila, we can also have roms in two flavors if you don't like it just go for standard one.:rolleyes:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cr1960:
Whoa! I never said it was crap - I said that in my opinion, it makes the home screen look like crap. All credit to maxycy for his hard work, but it's just not for me.

If Agent_47 want's to make 2 versions, then that's up to him.

All I'm saying is that I'd rather not see it cooked in as standard - just like you're saying you do.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cr1960:
looks like upload of new v 5.6 23518LEO-97 is complete :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
ill upload a max manila later to see how popular it is... but i don use it :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Speadge:
yop, flashing already :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cr1960:
and I was hoping to be first......:D

how does it seem?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] neofral:
don't you love silence after storm.... lol

Agent, looks like your firestorm is over now a moment of joy. i personally don't think you'll hear about bugs on the latest ...-97 rom :D

and i think is about time to ask if anybody knows how can i keep wifi while on stby. i tried the rhodium tools but no success :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Speadge:
hmm.. fast;

already had one hang up, hardreset fixed it...

will report more as im testing atm

-notification bar works, ringer does (not really had problems before (mp3)

- calendar shows weekday on tab-bar (didnt do that before, did it?)

- still no cursor on manila sms-client (peoplepage) in landscape mode
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cr1960:
there's an option under menu>more settings>connections in advanced config you could try. probably does the same thing as the rhodium tools edit though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] neofral:
sorry man... you lost me. don't understand under which menu>more settings.... :confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cr1960:
in 'advanced config' application.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] neofral:
thanks :D

i kinda hesitate to use advanced config. but i'll give it a spin
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bacco:
v 5.6 23518LEO-97

Before loading any apps (other than the remove hidden proxy cab and the ATT keybrd fix)...

Phone rings with no issues (in HTC Sense, using OldPhone as the ring tone).

YouTube works fine.

Notification bar works fine.

My Location doesn't work...CORRECTION, My Location now works (didn't work the first 7 ot 8 tries, but the next 3 tries worked like a charm)

Using radio 4.49.25.88 on ATT in NYC
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
5.6.23518-97

Ringer worked every time for me -- using .wma file as ringer; I didn't try .mp3 file ringer (I hardly have any), so I don't know how well .mp3 works.

I have had problems with YouTube

-- sudden exits during the "downloading" of the starting page list, but those problems have been sporadic. For example, as a test I started YT 6 times in a row -- worked fine. I did a soft-reset and restarted YT -- and it did a sudden-exit fail. Next try worked fine. It seemed to fail on launch about 1/4 of the time, without an obvious pattern.

Radio-rom: 4.49.25.88; T-Mo USA.

BTW, @agent_47: Please don't cook in MaxManila -- not right now anyway. I don't want something like that cooked in that I can't uninstall.

If others love it so much that they're saying "well so-&-so cook has it, why don't you?"...then they can either install it after flashing or simply flash the roms of the cook they're referring to. ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aadadams:
Though I didn't say it that way, I sure was thinking it!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Axiixa:
I agree in regard to MaxManilia.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jsmith8858:
I second that! I find MaxManila nice, but definitely not essential -- and it does seem to slow down the "smoothness" of the Manila UI when it is present.

To be honest, even the background on all tabs I'd prefer to leave out and handle myself if I want it ....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bacco:
Ditto.....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Yes, I know I'll never get a job as a diplomat. :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aadadams:
LOL! I also thought, if the rom does start to take on an onslaught of superfluous bloat, it would have been partially my fault for not speaking up. I think diplomats have to be direct, but willing to negotiate. My guess is that you qualify. Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Axiixa:
Bloat...

I think part of the reason Agent_47's ROMs are so good is the lack of "extra" stuff. While maybe somewhat less efficient, I like CABs so each user can customize as they like - isn't that part of the charm of these devices anyway!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Maverick777:
Is the latest 5.6 rom the one that is password protected? Or is there a different one being uploaded?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bacco:
Go to the same location and you'll find a version that isn't beta (password protected) to download.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Maverick777:
Got it. I actually had the right file, but accidentally kept the zip from the beta version in the same folder. It's working now.

Flashing my phone now. Hopefully the ringer is working again. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bacco:
Should...everything has been working fine all morning for me. It even rang for calls I didn't want to take :mad:

I think it's time to change my signature :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bacco:
Had a couple of freezes...the last one was as I exited the MMS server settings a minute ago.