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[Imagio General] draco03:
I'm getting mines oct 13th. and since i was up for my renew every two, i am able to use the rebate for the phone once it come in, which brings it down to $99 plus tax. lol sweet deal huh? i can't wait. im transfering all of my contacts and all from my LG Dare to Outlook so once i get, sync it with my computer i am good to go.
[Imagio General] Sweeny Russ:
using it to post right now. It is every I thought it would be and more and I actually don't mind the onscscreen keyboard ay all. I am going to leave the rom stock for the moment but I do want to get cooking in the next two weeks. If anyone has questions I will answer.
[Imagio General] Boss428man:
Ambitious, Rom cooking is the one thing I need to learn how to do. At first glance it seems difficult but hopefully not. We should create a thread for Whitestone rom cooking so we can figure this all out together. Good luck
[Imagio General] baxtermedic:
Mines coming monday!!!

I ordered mine yesterday and now i have to wait for the stupid weekend.

I am coming from the Omnia and I hope this goes well for me.

I have pretty good experience cooking my own roms and creating OEM packages. Is there a kitchen for the Imagio? I really don't know what all is involved in cooking for an HTC device or even what a Hard SPL is.

I am still excited, I just hope i'm not dissappointed going from the 624 mhz to the 528mhz processor
[Imagio General] firenado:
Same here, I thought they would give me the run around, but not I traded my TP2 to the Imagio, Now just impatiently waiting for the device! Cant wait for Tuesday
[Imagio General] iamfroda:
Just got mine last night, pretty slick so far. Hard to give up the TP2 though.
[Imagio General] Boss428man:
Hi iamfroda,

Have you tried CM Wifi Internet Sharing on the Imagio?

Does Google maps make use of the digital compass so that the maps face North?

Thanks
[Imagio General] Richard713:
you'll love it the screen is alot more responsive and the stock keyboard from htc is super nice...
[Imagio General] jskoland:
I have had my Imagio for about 4 days now and I can honestly say I love the phone. Had a hard time activating it over the air and the Verizon support rep had me change a bunch of stuff under the EPST settings which actually jacked it up, but I think or hope we got everything back ok. Coming from the HTC Titan I really like this phone.
[Imagio General] rcklss1:
help deciding

hey everyone ive been trying to decide since the 6th if i should keep my tp2 or get the imagio. i am a heavy texter 1500 texts a month at the bare minmum, i use my phone for most of my internet browsing, maybe 25 - 30 emails a month. also i have a 7mp camera that is usually at my house just cause its easier to carry one device and use my phones camera ( personally i have no gripe with the tp2 camera at all.) the things that bother me are the added weight of the tp2 because of the keyboard, the battery life (im constantly charging this phone) and the having to wait for the new manilla and 6.5. the imagio though is holding me off because of the lack of keyboard; im big i wear a size 13 ring and the onscreen keyboard on the tp2 is horrendous to me. is the imagios kb any better? any help you guys could offer (reasoning, suggestion, etc) would be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance.
[Imagio General] gollums:
Just finished unboxing

I'm glad to see that some of you had the same issues --> TP2 or Imagio. I have gone through 4(yes four) Touch Pros in the past 6 months, and finally got fed up. The tech support person at Verizon was friendly enough to offer me an upgrade to the TP2, which I was excited about, but after a week of waiting, it still wasn't in stock.

I might miss the keyboard, and still can't get it to switch into lanscape when it's on its kickstand, but so far I'm loving it. Now I just have to get all my apps back on it.:D
[Imagio General] baxtermedic:
this phone seems sluggish compared to my omnia. I know the Proc is slower and the sreen is twice the resolution.

Igo 8 used to run so fluid on my old omnia but is is pretty jerky now. Is this the result of the HTC/driver issue that has plagued thier phones forever?

I can't go back to the omnia though, i was messing with it yesterday and its like going from the graphics of a ps3 back to a psone, it's been 2 days and i'm already addicted to WVGA.

I guess I'm just asking if when we get a HSPL and remove all this crap from the phone if that will alleviate the memory/performance issues of teh phone.
[Imagio General] jdmba:
A Tale of Woe - Verizon Imagio Owners Please Speak Up

Greets - For my entire cellular life I was with Verizon (in its prior iterations) but I got very very tired of Verizon's crippling their phones to force GetItNow and to otherwise limit the standard everyday experience (such as disabling obex).

When AT&T released the Tilt / Kaiser, I left Verizon to get the Tilt. It was my first smartphone, and I loved the freedom to install games, programs, etc. The problem, as I soon learned, was that AT&T's network is garbage. I do not even get service in my home or for 5 blocks around it. My wife stayed with Verizon (and doesn't mind crippled phones) and gets a signal no problem.

So I would like to move back to Verizon. From the looks of it, a hacked ROM is not going to show up any time soon, so I wanted to ask the following super simple question ...

... is a stock smartphone from verizon (such as the Whitestone/Imagio, which is what I would go with) crippled in any way (e.g., Can I install Astroware Casino / Pocket Quicken / My own MP3's / etc)?

THANKS!
[Imagio General] Boss428man:
jdmba,

All i have to say is I have only used it for a day and other then the vz apps the phone seems completely stock. It working great! Can't compare to my prior Verizon WM devices. I'm still doing a little tweaking but nothing compared to my prior Verizon diamond, and touch. Just personal tweaks. Wifi sharing working great, the dialer is way way better then anything I've used prior, phone seem very responsive, wm 6.5 updates are very nice, and the first time start up process is what HTC needs to get the phone in the hands of non tech users. It will be in store in a few days give it a try.
[Imagio General] Kebero:
I agree - the Imagio is very impressive outside of the box, much unlike my Omnia (the Omnia is a great phone, but its potential was only realised by all the amazing chefs out there!). The only things I could see a custom ROM fixing on the Imagio is getting rid of all the VZW bloatware, things which most people on this forum probably aren't going to use anyway.
[Imagio General] dot45:
I want GPS unlocked, and the removal of the crapware.
[Imagio General] rolandroland:
Did you even bother reading any other thread on this device?
[Imagio General] Boss428man:
I deleted most of the bloatware out of the program files folder and removed the shortcuts. Its an extra step but saved around 20-25mb or so.
[Imagio General] icon123:
The GPS would have to be locked first to have the need to unlock it.:)
[Imagio General] syntrix:
LOL! I have to ask the question then:

Can you lock the GPS? :D
[Imagio General] Boss428man:
If you want the gps lock just make sure you don't turn on the "location on" however even though the phone has only been out a couple weeks it feels too soon for people wanting to go back to the old school.
[Imagio General] yatman60:
Imagio - I like it, but....

I traded in my Touch Pro 2 for the Imagio. I like it thus far (it's been 3 days now) but I do have a few gripes:

1) Screen rotation. I would have assumed that apps like the txt messenger and a few others would auto-rotate given the lack of a physical keyboard. I'm finding that to not be true and I have to install a 3rd party app (like gyrator) just to get the keyboard to change on certain apps. Kinda Lame!

2) Also, with a 5MP camera, what's with there not being a flash of some kind?

3) Alarm Clock doesn't seem to have a snooze option like that Touch Pro 2.

That's about all I could find thus far.
[Imagio General] bboyle:
Imagio

JDMBA

... is a stock smartphone from verizon (such as the Whitestone/Imagio, which is what I would go with) crippled in any way (e.g., Can I install Astroware Casino / Pocket Quicken / My own MP3's / etc)?

THANKS![/QUOTE]

I received mine last week and have been able to install without problems a number of apps.
[Imagio General] slumpey326:
What type of programs did you delete
[Imagio General] Boss428man:
I deleted from the program files folder: MediaFlo, Mobile IM, modclient, V CAST Videos, VVM, VVMStart. & mdsc from another directory. It looks like the total files size was 27mb.
[Imagio General] fuktifino:
I've had my Imagio for a little while now and I like it so far. I have noticed that some of my WM6.1 apps lock up the phone when I try to run them, Flash Player Mobile is especially bad. I'm going to work on that compatability mode issue. I traded up from the VZ6800 (Titan/Mogul), which I liked for the most part. I too wish for the auto-rotation of the screen to flow seamlessly, and on all apps. I had originally fallen in lust with the Touch Pro 2, but was not able to get it because it was (and will always be) out of stock. I even went so far as to call HTC to see if they were going to ship anymore TP2s, and was told that they are not. The rep at Verizon suggested the Imagio/Whitestone/XV6975 and I was reluctant because of the lack of a slide out keyboard. I am happy to say that I made just as many (if not more) typing mistakes with the slide out keyboard as with the on-screen one.

I ordered an audio/video output cable for it, but (thus far) it doesn't work. I found this forum by searching for an answer to that problem. The cable is said to work flawlessly on the Touch Pro (1 & 2) and a bunch of others. It's supposed to work on the Imagio, as that was what it was listed for. We shall see. I bought a pico projector (tiny LED pocket projector) so that I could hook it up to this phone and use it for presentations. I sent an e-mail to the seller (nakedcellphone), but haven't heard back from him yet (ebay). I'll post the results of whether this cable works or not and what is required to make it function once I figure it out. For now, I would not recommend it for the Imagio.
[Imagio General] Boss428man:
I am going to give a full review in another week or 2. In the meantime i have used the phone for 2 weeks and the biggest things i have noticed is I have yet to use the stylus and even with all my tweaking i have not had to hard reset. The phone is working great. For some reason i have lost my 3G icon.
[Imagio General] yatman60:
I've had mine for almost a week now. I had to replace it once as a result of some wierdness on the screen. The replacement seems to be flying! Not sure how to explain it. The only thing different is i haven't installed the .net 3.5 yet.

Aside from that, the only thing that really takes getting used to is the touch keyboard vs the real one of the TP2.

App store is cool (lots of good basic free apps right now). Screen is great for video (although it seems that a lot of the videos are not mobile formatted so the resolution is bad to begin with).

I wish there was a good compass app (Samsung Omnia II is supposedly coming with one pre-installed).

All-in all - I think it's a nice phone for not having a capacitive touch screen. Sound quality is great, speaker phone sounds nice.

Need accessories ASAP - GET A CARRYING CASE OF SOME KIND - this thing is light and you WILL drop it. I had to hack two screen protectors from an old device to cover the screen.
[Imagio General] Nicaragüense:
I upgraded to this device from a I910 Omnia due to screen issues... Good old big red gave it to me for $100 bux so that i would upgrade even though I have only had the Omnia since the end of Jan. So I went for it. I really like it so far. It is nice and works well as a phone and a gadget.. I disliked the idea of getting a slide out keyboard since I feel that the hardware keyboard will end up getting loose over time. Plus I was very happy with the form factor of the Omnia. I do need to purchase a headset/mic setup now. Any recommendations?
[Imagio General] Americanmetal:
Just got mine today

LOVE IT
[Imagio General] gentleart:
Maybe someone can give me a little advice. I have a Touch Pro from Alltel. My problem is the keyboard. I started having problems with it almost as soon as I got it, but Alltel became Verizon and they told me I would have to trade my Alltel TP in for a slower Verizon model. Since I paid near $200 and my phone is less than one year old, how can I score a discount on an Imagio?

I love all of my TP apps and I would miss using the camera light as a flashlight since I work 3rd shift, but I generally think I'd like the Imagio more.

Thanks for any feedback you have to offer!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Vulpecula:
Does anybody know if it is possible to add the feature from Nodata to my Comm manager? I use Nodata when i'm in foreign countries. Because it's also an communication feature I would like to add this option to my Comm manager. Can somebody tell me if it is possible?
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] mt2020:
I have the TP2 VZW, and yes, it's a very nice phone. I can't seem to get by the weight though. I always notice it and even pulls at my belt in the holster. Keyboard is great, but could live without it. Anyone else considering the Imagio?

Wish I could put them side to side....

I'm sure XDA will add it to they supported listed when enough get out there.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] aaronpoweruser:
welll yea the imagio is a 1/3 lighter and the camera is slightly better and way more custimizable and at the same price why not but we need someone to post some deffinitve pictures but as far as weight ita 6.17 oz compared to 4.15 so make that call and post a review
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] oldpueblo:
It's really all about the keyboard. If you will never use it then it's just a bunch of extra weight/thickness. If you think you will use it, then get it to be safe. It is the deal breaker.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] rolandroland:
First off all the easy way now is just to go to Verizon's site and "check" the 2 phones and click compare to see the differences. If you trust Verizon's specs then pdadb.net is not accurate for the CDMA model.

I just turned in my TP2 and have a Imagio coming. I did it as even though the keyboard is awesome and I could type very fast, I am just not a heavy text/emailing. Well I do a lot of reading, not as much writing. So for the extra 2 MP on the camera and the lighter weight I went for the Imagio.

It truly comes down to the keyboard and the camera and how important they are to you.

Edit: In particular PDADB quotes specs are 1/3 lighter but Verizon specs show it being only 1.1 oz apart
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] oldpueblo:
Here's a bit of a comparison to the TP2, though it's mostly a review.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYXspSlLmZg
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] iamfroda:
i ordered the imagio this morning and it looks like it should be here thursday. that said, i am posting this from my tp2 using the slideout keyboard and thinking that i may have to give the imagio to my girlfriend if i can't live without the keyboard. ill report back when i get the imagio
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] syntrix:
I believe PDADB was stated as WRONG in another thread. I have the dimensions and weights scribbled out at work.

How did you turn your TP2 in for the imagio? Was this all online/customer service?
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] mt2020:
I'm considering turning mine in to. I'm under the 30 day free trial. I really like the tp2, but can't get by the weight issue. To be honest, I love the look of TouchPro 2 with Touch Flow, but I loaded spb 3.5 and OH MY! Not as pretty , but less key strokes to get where your going, and if your not happy, just customize it to whatever you want. I swear memory usage went down too, and I know apps pop up faster. I have to use Pocket Informat so the pretty calendar is no loss.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] SD_Martin:
TV Out capability?

Anyone know if the TV Out capability of the TP2 is still there in the Imagio?
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] syntrix:
Those that got a TP2, I called VZ and if you are in the 30 day, you CAN return, but you have to use the return label.

If you buy a imagio at full price, the rep stated you will get the credit, and the 2 year pricing credit, but it can take up to 2 billing cycles for the credits. That's my only option since the TP2 was bought online.

You might want to call to verify that, but that's what I got when I called. I should have asked her to add notes to the account, but I'm still thinking about it all.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] syntrix:
I don't think anyone is getting an imagio until tomorrow (using the free overnight VZ code). The imagio was just up on the VZ site today for sale (internet only)
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] unorthodoxx:
I thought about it...I rely on the keyboard and the 2MP extra on the camera is not that important because I carry a real camera with me and I actually think the 3MP on the TP2 is decent in a snap, also I don't plan on paying 15 bucks extra a month for the Verizon TV so its a no go.

I'm just hoping the HD2 doesn't come out before my contract is up. I have 10 more days before I can return my fantastic TP2.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] mt2020:
Those who do get the Imagio - PLEASE...

If you do get the Imagio, please post your comments on it particularly:

1) What you love

2) What you miss over the TP2

And, most important to me:

A) Is battery life better or worse compared to TP2, and

B) Is the EARPIECE LOUDER stock out of the box, without any tweaks.

I, and probably a few others, would really appreciate it.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] hood.racer:
i am going through the same thing all it comes down to is this

Touch Pro2

Pros: - Stereo Speakers

- Noise Canceling Mics​

-slide out keyboard (for those who use it)​

Cons - Weight

- No wimno 6.5 (until hspl or vzw releases it)​

- Thickness​

Imagio

Pros: - 5mp Camera

- flotv (for who ever wants it)​

- Thinner and Lighter​

Con: - no keyboard

(the fact that it doesnt have a d-pad is the gripe for me):mad:
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] rhinology:
Have been using Imagio for a few days now. Love it.

I don't own a TP2, but played with my co-worker's TP2 for a while. You can definitly feel the difference of weight and thickness.

All the phones I've used in past have a keyboard, either 9-key or full keyboard. I thought I can't live without keyboard, but actually I'm okay with the on-screen keyboard, and type fast enough to reply some emails. The only thing I really miss is the jog dial on my old Hermes. When reading text (I like reading novels while my wife is shopping), I can use one hand to hold the phone and my thumb will be right on the jog dial. I can easily scroll up/down. Now I have to move my thumb to touch the screen to scroll, then move it back so my thumb don't block my sight.

Everthing else works great. Camera is okay, without flash, you can't expect a lot when it's dark. I like the FM Radio too.

Now if I can have Manila 2.5 on it I'll be very very happy. Hope Verizon/HTC will release an official update for it.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] mt2020:
rhinology:

How is the earpiece volume? The TP2 is very low and can be dificult to hear with any background noise. Oh, and is it true the Imagio won't do landscape for keyboard? Ouch, that may be my dealbreaker right there!
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] deadwrong03:
I have the tp2 and my gf has the imagio its basically the same phone. I cant deal with just a touchscreen because it gets irritating i like having the option to jus whip my keyboard out and start typing.

The Touch Pro 2s battery life is much better. A full charge on both phones the touch pro 2 still has 2 bars the next morning while the imagios battery is either dead or 1 bar left running ive noticed this most of this week with both phones around me.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] syntrix:
What percent are they at really in the morning? Install the 1% fix to really compare?

And are the settings 100% the same? Same gmail download times? Same checking of weather, push internet on or off?

I would guess that you are saying the stock IM, 6.5 is a battery hog?

Please elaborate!
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] deadwrong03:
the settings are pretty much the same we do light browsing maybe 20 mins browsing texting and phone calls like every couple hours 15-20 mins. the only consitent app we both have running is palringo in the background which is a rather light app. I configured both the only thing is she wanted her Imagio set to check for emails every 15 mins mines is set to 30 mins. Now i leave my bluetooth on all day and hers is off unless shes using it. Her battery is roughly at 10 or 5% the next morning if its not powered off.

from my light usage of her phone i havent seen push internet on her phone like it says Push Internet on my browser tab. i dont have any set on my tp2 since i read that could be a waste on battery
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] syntrix:
ok, so they ARE different, and usage is different. You have 1/2 the data usage as hers based on email checks. Hardly a controlled experiment :)
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] deadwrong03:
im not the only one suggesting the crappy battery life of the imagio...try for urself if u dont believe...:rolleyes:
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] canecbr600:
I have great battery life! I went through yesturday with a lot of use playing with it, and still had about 30% left last night. I have several e-mail accts set to retrieve every 15 mins. This is TONS better than my Touch Pro!
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] deadwrong03:
the battery life is better than the touch pro 1 but not the tp2 at the end of the day my battery lasts longer than the imagio
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] thisoneguy:
So I bought a T-Mobile 3G off ebay, unlocked it.... Phone works great...

but the 3G... docomo has 3 apns.... one regular, one for what they call bizhodai (their unlimited plan) and another presumably for 'settings'.

Heres the kicker, the phone will connect to the two that are not unlimited... but not to the unlimited APN... I also have an HT-03A (the MT is for my girl), I put my SIM in the MT and no love... Her sim in my HT-03A and instant connect... I am perplexed...

I could understand if none of the APNs worked... maybe it is a different freq, but two work...

any ideas...

anyone know the tmobile freq?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] thisoneguy:
I found this, http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/board/message?board.id=myTouch&thread.id=1646

So am I assed out? I have heard stories of people using G1s on docomo with no problems... Are the radio's differnt...??

Strait from T-Mobile sight

So, now what does that mean...? Can one APN be on a differnet freq?

More searching... So the ulimited APN i use on my HT03A mpr2.bizho.net wouldn't work but the non unlimited one mopera.net would...so searching google and guess what leads me back to XDA http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=470062&page=4 where they mentioned another bizhodai APN mpr.bizho.net (notice its missing the '2' from my APN) but it works... I am going to ask docomo tomorrow if that apn will work with the price capped data plan...

so MAYBE...heres hoping...
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] thisoneguy:
I will post the update just incase anyone else trys this...

I went to Docomo, and went over and over with them about adding a MT3G IMEI to the filter...no love.

Long story short, I ended up buying another phone directly from Docomo, only because it would be capped at 5900 yen... But the MT3G works on softbank like a dream, capped and all, because apprently they do not filter IMEI... Yet another Fail, Docomo. (though from where they are standing, a win)

So let me state this clearly, for you to have a capped 3G connection on Docomo's Bizhodai plan... you must be able to connect to mpr2.bizho.net, anything else and you will likely be looking a hefty bill...
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] vankirkc:
So does this mean that ultimately you weren't able to use the unlocked MT3G with Docomo?

When I went to talk to the Docomo people yesterday, I asked them specifically if I could get a SIM-only subscription and bind the IMEI of a handset I bought overseas to their biz-hodai plan. They said that they could do that. I haven't actually done this yet, as my handset has yet to arrive from the states, but I'm going to give it a try anyway.

Did you purchase her SIM explicitly for the MT3G, or did you just take it out of another phone?