yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dragoth:
Your not alone - i kinda feel that 25010 is slower too. At first i just thought it was me and something i did. But if you are also seeing the difference to 25009 then there must be something...

Also I am pretty sure that build 25009 "does" have the new icons. I'm reffering to the new glossy ones in comparison to the old "blackish small icons" kind of icons.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
I had this exact same problem with both 23110 & 25009 when I tried to change IE cache/temporary files & Email attachment/inbox to Storage Card. Had to hard reset as having two Storage Cards is just... hokey.

Never seen this before though, maybe agent can shed some light on this for us.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jedah:
Thanks for the response, Dinky. Which IME did you install? In tried the IME-py and IMEonly and both of them didn't seem to do anything (it's in the list of my installed apps, but I don't see any option to select it as an input method). Also, do these allow input w/ the hardware keyboard?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jedah:
Have you tried PLUMSIP or Sogou? They seem to work very well for simplified characters.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dinky:
Sorry, double post.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dinky:
I use the IME only cab. You will not be able to switch SIP to the Chinese input through SIP selection menu. You have to check "SIP" under "Menu Items" tab in Quick Menu options, then switch to Chinese SIP through Quick Menu -> SIP.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jedah:
Thanks, man! I didn't know our phones had this option. Is there, by chance, a way to use pinyin?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
I looked back in the thread and see that the latest/current icons were included after 25009.

But those latest ones (and different-but-similar new ones) can be installed from the link agent_47 posted here, before he built them in, so any release can have the latest icons. Follow agent's link and there are cabs to install the different icon sets.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MaeSiuS:
Distorted Menus

Hi,

since I flashed "v6.2.25010LEO 30th march wm6.5.5 with extra tabbs" I experiene a strange display error if I tap on a menu softkey in all programs. After tapping on "Menu" in "File Explorer" it does not react to my inputs for 15 seconds until the distorted menu appears. Screenshot:

How comes? Does anybody know a fix? I flashed this ROM the second time. The error remains. v6.2.25010LEO looks really great, I like the new icons. Would be a pity if I couldn't use it.

Regards, MaeSiuS
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mahagon Coral:
Well, try the htc menu fix from the 2nd post ^^

Drop the files inside of the zip file into your windows folder.

I think this was already mentioned as is also mentioned directly beneath the download ;)

Good luck!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jcm999:
Can I ask what program or utility are you using to show the amount of RAM used?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MaeSiuS:
Thanks to you, Mahagon Coral, a simple *.png (The HTC Menu Fix) solved this issue.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
To just see the total memory in use use Taskmanager: Settings (All settings)>System>Taskmanager>Menu>Memory

To see details of memory use by various processes, install the FDC Taskmanager I link to in Post#6467.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
I'm double-posting because I think I've discovered something...well, interesting, at least: The new icons (as of 23110) seem to cause about 8-9MB more of program-ram to be used/taken (by gwes.exe) than the older-new icon set. :eek:

I went back to 25009 this afternoon (while at work...I'm such a bad person :o ), and then I installed the new icon set from the cab previously referred to. I got everything installed/set-up as usual and did a soft-reset.

I checked the general program memory use and saw it had 60MB free -- seemed a little low for a fresh boot on that rom. I ran FDC Taskmanager and saw that gwes.exe was at 31+MB. That's weird -- it was 24MB the last time I ran 25009 --?

So I uninstalled the new-icon cab and s.r.: Program memory now starts at 69MB free, and gwes.exe is ~ 24MB.

So, that's probably why 23110 and 25010 both start with higher ram used -- they both have the new icon set. I haven't tested yet to see if this icon set causes continuing growth of gwes.

As I've said before: I don't know if this greater memory allocation causes the phone to run slower/laggy...if the icon set doesn't cause gwes.exe to grow then probably not. So maybe this doesn't matter....but I think it's good to know. :)

(Oh...and when I say "discovered" something I mean among users -- not the cook ;) )
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jsmith8858:
Agent47 --

The next time you update screenshots on the first post, could you please, please, please just do what everyone else does and show each picture as individual images, not as a rotating GIF? Evaluating the look of the icons, theme, backgrounds, etc, when dealing with a rotating set of photos that you cannot pause or examine one by one (without downloading and extracting the frames, of course, and surely you don't expect everyone to do this) is really difficult and frustrating.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dinky:
I've seen plenty of pinyin IMEs out there, but I can't use pinyin so I didn't bother to test any of them. As matter of fact, I think there are many more CHS IMEs than CHT IMEs out there. I don't know which ones won't screw up hardware keyboard mapping though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
VERY interesting discovery. Anyway to get 23110 without the new icon set? It was certainly a speedy ROM!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
There's the Icon Chooser (Utilities) that has the option to select 5.x or 6.x icons (as well as the new-design folders) on the 25009. I don't know what the options are, if any, on the 23110 rom -- I'd forgotten about that very handy app (agent's creation, I think)! :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Question is, after you select a different icon set, will your gwes boot up <25Mb then?

A bug I'd kind of like to report to agent (in case it hasn't been already):

If you go to "All Contacts," scroll over to "Updates & Events", Menu -> Update now doesn't seem to update my Facebook friends' statuses. In fact, I have Menu -> Settings set to "update every 2 hours automatically," which isn't happening. Only way I've been able to update my Facebook friends' statuses is to individually update each contact, which is somewhat of a pain. Any ideas, agent?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Sounds like an experiment that somebody could do... (until/unless agent_47 logs on and tells us). ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Lol, next thing you know, agent logs on! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
OK, I just did it:

YES!

Still remains to be seen if there's something else about the 23110 build that eats up ram...because before it wasn't just that it started high, it grew.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
that makes good sense...after u mention, i checkrd the icons and they arent optimized by the author....ill get down to optime it in a while :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
Who is Mahagon Coral? I thought agent_47 fixed that with my assistance. I stayed up talking to him until 4 am eastern time.

Correct me if i am mistaken please.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Not mistaken: Some people get confused about difference between the person who points them at the answer and the person who created the answer. :rolleyes:

Glad to help!

BTW: I found that just using the new folders icons doesn't bump up memory use by much, if the new app-icons aren't used.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Nvrmnd...got excited.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
errrr....din get u.... mayb m a lil sleepy!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
I meant: After replacing the new icons with the 6.x icons using the Icon Chooser, I then used the Icon Chooser to install "Lechux's Folders"...which has the new-look folders-icons without the new-look (memory-hogging) app-icons.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
non manila ROMS up :)

change log is lot bigger than mentioned. i cant remember what i did lastnight ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
So you are saying that agent_47 just pointed me to the fix which mahegen found/created? :o
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
No.... the guy who didn't thank you thanked the guy that pointed it out to him, rather than thanking you, the guy who (helped) create it...as I posted.

You were there, right? Or were you posting in your sleep? :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
I guess i was. I was up till 4am figuring stuff out with agent_47, then did not go online much today (dragged myself to work)lol.

So that guy has a post somewhere in the forum that agent found last night?

P.s. your responses are coming through way quicker to me then agents and my dialogue last night. Is that dependent on the xda server???
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
No...Dude, I think you must still be really sleepy! But I'll explain my statement again:

Mahogan Coral got credit from Maesius simply because Mahogan Coral pointed Maesius to

your/Agent's solution

.

Now go to sleep! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
Oh, ok, sorry, so our agent is still a genius. Ok, just woke up from a nap.

But to the second part of my question, your response is quick compared the ones last night, presumably to how slammed the xda server is?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
Ok, back on subject, I switched to 25009 as some people on the forum suggested(i.e. cmd512, mcbrian etc).

I uninstalled cockie monster, installed max manila2.5b, and lots of other things. Also merged all of my programs from another rom(valk 23519) with 2009leo, all went well. Right now I chose Lechux's folders for my icons of choice and gwes.exe is still below 25mb's.(I think McBrian asked the question about the icons possibly using up more ram and not being able to stay below 25mb gwes ram usage).

The TP2's stats as of now are 70 mb storage , and 69mb program memory free.- Yes a whole crapload of apps and utilities were imported from 23519.

The rom performs pretty fast, maybe a tiny bit slower than the new rom (25010), but the available memory does not drop as low as with 25010.

P.s. I changed the manila cache to be dynamic (auto), rather than fixed at

2mb's by default to free up some more available ram.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
lol mcbrian, funny, but this statement above reminded me of a "Mike Brady"(The Brady Bunch) statement...lol:D:p.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Sweet, after disabling/deleting some startup services that don't really pertain to me/I would never use, I'm booting up with 80MB free program memory (even with voice command & arkswitch loading at startup)! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
Is that with 25009?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
It looks like the 6x icon set uses the least ram, les than the 5x icon set (by about 600k). The Lechux icon set uses roughly 1mb more ram than the 6x icon set.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Yes sir, haven't had a chance to flash to anything else yet.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
I'm on 23110tr2.5, as I posted earlier, running the 6.x icons and also Lechux folders (which replaces the graphics for just the folders, not the app-icons). I'm going to see if the ram use behaves itself -- or at least is cleanable with cleanRAM, neither of which was true of 23110 with it's original icons... I'm not optimistic, but don't mind trying. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
Yes, I think it seems a good one to stick with for now. McBrian is experimenting with 23110, lets see what his verdict is.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
So, what is your gwes mem usage, and overall available ram with rom 23110?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
Well, I should go to sleep earlier tonight...:rolleyes:about 1hr earlier. Its 3am here, so good night to all.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BzeBwoi:
agent_47, this is minor, but was wondering if it's possible to make a cab for the phonecanvas fix found at http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5910397&postcount=13831

but with your dialer images?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
i din test it yet.....if ur having problems, please take phone to flight mode, reset and then install :)

View attachment 301630
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Speadge:
anyone yet seen startmenu linbks disappearing?

my "tools" folder has two strange folders in it i've never seen before (no "normal" links anymore as active sync or mstsc); opera, total comm. and google maps links dont work anymore, not even shown in startmenu... and so on..

dont know what happened, didnt install any software that could have chrashed this. (almost no software at all).

no screenshot, cause i reseted for testing...

any ideas?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BzeBwoi:
Fix worked for Dialer. Thank you!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] djkasmic:
@agent: is it recommened to use newest cleanram version or do you prefer 1.9.6?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mahagon Coral:
hey :)

Still on the newest 6.5 TR release and finding it great!

ps: Found something you might want to add in your next Rom, the Opera 10 Final builds in this thread have a much higher typing speed, there's not such a lag as in the official version, might be worth taking a look at
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jedah:
Thanks. That's what I found so far, too. I've actually been looking for an IME that allows for pinyin input for CHT, since I don't know zhuyin and I'm kinda slow at writing characters. I've found only one software keyboard that does this, but it'd be sweet as hell if I could find one that uses the hardware keyboard.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dinky:
Can somebody help to check the Power Management settings on 25010 in Advanced Config to see if SD Memory Power Management is enabled? I wonder if the SD Card was not waken up quick enough during boot time, so the system didn't detect the existence of the SD card, thus, create a "\Storage Card" directory in internal memory. Once the SD card was detected, it was named "\Storage Card2". Thanks. Agent_47, do you know what has changed from 25007 to 25009? Because this whole thing was working under 25007, but start breaking since 25009. Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
sure....y not :p

yes! it was a speed mod gone wrong in 25009....but its ok in 25010 n 23110 :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dinky:
But I did give 25010 a try, and I got the same problem. So I had to revert back to 28232LEO now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
Yes, went back to another rom.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jcm999:
As usual, thanks for the quick and thorough response MCbrian!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] djkasmic:
so where´s the disadvantage of the newest version??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
I'm using the latest version through the upgrade function (2.1 I believe), and it works well. Only thing is it doesn't usually free up too much memory (~5MB each time I've tried at level 3).

If you tweak your system right, RAM usage should be pretty good... where CleanRAM isn't really necessary anymore.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
I agree. I rarely use the ram utility, just by enabling auto for manila cache file i gained close to 2mb.

A fully configured system with max manila and other stuff my phone shows about 75mb free program ram after boot, with the lechux icon set enabled.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Do you find maxmanila to be faster than cookie?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
I think so, never paid too mush attention to tat. I like the usefulnes of the callin history, appontments, sms and email linfs on the home page.

the calling history and appointment shortcuts also have a nice reminer built into it. Turning off the weather animation makes a big difference in speed. Here is a pic of my home page:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Those are nice touches, but ultimately, I'll try out anything if it's faster. I know all these mods are made for HD2, so there is invariably going to be some lag on our TP2's. Agent's 25009 is already pretty speedy and faster than any other 2.5 ROM I've tried, but there is still a slight stutter when opening up the cookiemonster program menus. Any improvement on that, I'm game.

Speaking of gfx/3D performance, I'm sure this is already installed... but can agent comment if this 3D patch is already cooked into the ROMs?:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=546522
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
I don,t think thereis any slow downs, not noticibaly at least if the weather animation is disabled.

Thanks for mentioning the gfx thing, agent used to cook it in and it would show up under settings/system. Not there in 25009... So I will install it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Cool, let me know if it makes a difference! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
unfortunately i forgott to run a benchmark test before i installed it....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aznsniper:
anyone have problems with changing the home screen? because i cant change it to a picture i want. thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
No problem, does it feel smoother/faster?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jcc332006:
Does anyone have a cab that will completely remove Call History icon in sense 2.5? I have the calender icon removal and just want to get rid of call history icon. Thanks for your help.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
I found a 3d testing tool, it made a big difference. Its a diamont d3d demo tool. Also installed a gfx boost cab, however, I think manila feels about the same...

Manila is still very fast and responsive, it has a little lag to it if the slider is pushed back and forth very fast, but who in their mind needs to slide the tab around that fast??? For a normal slide it responds fine.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chizzwhizz:
jus installed the new 25010 rom. is there a cookie monster home tab editor that comes cooked in the rom?

tried to look but could find it, then i installed the matching version. when i press menu to apply my changes, the menu that comes up is distorted and i cant press any of the options.

has anyone else run into this issue? how did you fix it?

EDIT: disabled htc menus and it worked
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BzeBwoi:
Try using the cab found in this post to fix htc menu.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6039821&postcount=6746
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BzeBwoi:
agent_47, i searched the thread but did not find and answer and was wondering if the version of manila you have built into the rom is CFCcompressed or not?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] drhoros:
issues with synching calendar items

just flashed to v6.2.25010LEO, and created anew partnership (Exchange). When synching starts email and contacts are fine, but calendar is super slow. about 1min per entry. anyone els seeing this ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] djkasmic:
does anybody know how to assign the x2 taskmanager to a button?? so there is no exe for the x2 taskamanger?!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lennyz1988:
You can change this you're self in the registery.

Go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Manila\

[Co0kie.ShowCallHistory]

0 -> always hide

1 -> always show

2 -> auto hide/show (default)

[Co0kie.ShowAppointments]

0 -> always hide

1 -> always show (default)

2 -> auto hide/show

I think this is what you mean or are you really refering to the icon? :P
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Talebs:
I wanted to flash All Tabs rom with NO cookies tabs, is the right one?

DOWNLOAD v6.3

- valkyrie.ftp v6.2.25010LEO 30th march wm6.5.5 with extra tabbs
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GarFie:
Rhodio v6.3.21898

Hi. I flashed yesterday Rhodio 21898. What I've noticed:

- it eats memory, after almost 20 hours of uptime only 60 megs free (like Manila was running)

- You cannot add new contact from dialer call history (window where You can choose what to do with unknown number appears, but only tapping Cancel brings any reaction)

- Listening to music through BT headset is problematic, sometimes there are short pauses, sometimes longer...

I'm going back to 21893, but those new icons are so sweet. ;) Hope that cab from Lechux will work on older ROM.

Cheers.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
It's always a good idea to read the part of the thread where the release was first mentioned (search "25010")-- the HTC Menu bug was discussed a lot there. The fix is posted in the thread as well as on Post#2 under the Changelog. Copy the file to \windows and reboot.

Here's the main Co0kie mod thread, with editor link.

Both of these have co0kie home mod built in.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
ERROR...nevermind
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Talebs:
any newer build without CHT?:(

Edit**

or can you tell me how have a digi. and analoge clock w/o installing max manila as mm and cht could be installed at the same time.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ucanthang29:
showcase isnt working so far. Graphics are nice but for some reason showcase has swine flu. lol Any possible reasons? Just care cause I dont want any programs running in the background and I want to see cpu usage throughout the gamet. Ah now it says critical component missing or cannot start because program memory is unavailable.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] fadytabar:
Programs running in the background are forced to close

Hi,

I noticed that programs running in the background are forced to close after a while from starting them.

I don't know if this ROM is configured to kill any background process or not.

I am using the Gyrator2 software and it should only be minimized and keep running in the background to function correctly.

Each time i run it and minimize it, it closes automatically after few seconds or minutes.

Is there any way to assign an exception to some particular software or processes to prevent the system from closing them?

Please note that i added Gyrator2 to the exception list in Task Manager and it didn't work.

Thank you for your help
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwill:
Not Wifi, thats selectable for me. But, Mobile WiFi router. That option is greyed out.

I tried switching wifi on first and still nothing. I still cant select it.

Actually, got it to be selectable now. I had to run wifi router once first and now it's selectable in the comm mgr.