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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] contentryder:
i have a question about the rebate form they emailed..

the rebate form states that you will "require a $30 or higher data plan" for the Tilt 2 in order to receive the $50 rebate card. i have the media net package which is $15. i can't get the rebate because of this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] kidvi:
got mine for $239 shipped, with no activation/upgrade fees. they also sent me the $50 MIR so 189 after rebate!!

all i did was call 611, the first operator wasn't budging on the 349 price, so i had them put me through to retention, and the lady looked at my account, and gave me the 239 deal without any *****ing or moaning on my part!

i just wish i asked for next day shipping, she apologized for not giving me the option, but hte order was already complete. gues it isn't THAT big a deal
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Vesis:
How did you order when you're not permier?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] contentryder:
just dialed the 866 premier # in this thread and told the rep i wasn't a premier member but i'm eligible for an upgrade. rep asked what phone i wanted..i told him the tilt 2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] omaralt:
same exact thing with me, but i got the overnight shipping thrown in for free, so im getting it tomorrow :) whats awesome is i was only one year into a two year contracct! And i had never considered sending in the rebate, where would i get the rebate form from?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rkub:
Thank you!! Don't know if it was a good thing or a bad thing that I watched the video...lol Made me want the phone even more now...lol
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gadgetluva:
Just ordered mine, $499.99 no commitment price, they tried to charge me $879 and then $539 for it, got them down to the 499 that it should be, happy enough with that, was getting sick of being on the phone. Should be delivered on Wed or Thu, which is perfect since I return from vacation in Asia on Wednesday night :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] imabored:
well my phone did not arrive today like the CS rep said. Hope it comes tomorrow. i don't have a tracking number and apparently att doesn't either. i can't check the order status because it can't be found. CS rep said monday or tuesday. so much for overnight shipping. hope it comes tomorrow or CS reps will get calls back until i get an answer.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] JoeWilcox:
So to further my plight, I called AT&T today to cancel my order and they can't seem to do it. According to them, it's "processing" and can't be adjusted and I'll have to wait for a manager to do it. My $50 T-Mobile edition arrives tomorrow (had the tracking number within 2 hours). Bye AT&T, not nice knowing you.

Even with my early termination fee, I spent less at T-Mobile.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] khaytsus:
Damnit WTF, they won't even budge on me because my upgrade eligibility isn't until 5/2010.

This was retentions you talked to? What did you say, basically you just wanted to cancel because you wanted a TP2 deal and nobody was working with you?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] toawkanavngthded:
so i called several of my att stores here in fresno ca and 2 of them said they had the tilt 2 and were selling it. so i went to one and the guy approached me as i walked in and said they do not have it in stock but have the pure. i told him how i called and said they had it. he came back like 10 min saying they dont have it but have the pure which does not have the full qwerty keyboard blah blah blah... i know exactly what it is! said they would have it in a week or so... so i went to the other att store and same thing happened. they had a dummy but whats the point of playing with a dummy. the guy was kinda giving me attitude and so i just left. man either these employees are stupid or they just act stupid.... hope the 18th is the day it is released!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pistou:
I called a number of stores here in Atlanta (within 5 miles of me), and none of them has it in stock -- grrr. I need to stop looking at this forum, it's making me too impatient.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] :
I'm not eligible for an upgrade till 4/2010 (I'm also a year into my contract). You should probably try again - hopefully you will find someone reasonable. I've had my share of idiots at ATT cust service...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Jamon723:
WAS "Backordered" NOW "Shipped"

Probably just telling everybody what they already know but if your status said "backordered", check it again. Mine changed to "shipped" yesterday. 2Day FedEx has it arriving tomorrow. Can't wait, luckily I had just downloaded Mobile Shell 3.5 trial a few days ago on my OG tilt & playing w/ that has helped me be somewhat patient.

ANYONE TRIED THEIR MOBILE 6.1 APPS(ex. Walking Hot Spot) W/ 6.5 YET FOR COMPATIBILITY??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] WatermelonSlim:
Just install a 6.5 ROM on your Tilt and see what works and what doesn't.

I'd guess you'll probably have more issues with apps not being compatible with the WVGA resolution than you will with apps not being compatible with WM 6.5.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] yzf750:
Just ordered mine though retentions. 249.99 free overnight shipping. I wasnt due for an upgrade for another 2 months either.

I told them that I can get the same phone (tp2)for 49.00 off the Windows mobile site for t-mobile (which is true) and add in my 175.00 cancellation fee and I can do the switch to tmobile for 249.00. They matched it then :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RemE:
I went thru 611, then to retention as well, I'm premier and got the $239 price but no $50 MIR (he said he can't issue them. I'm not beyond begging a little and did get free fed-ex and a $50 credit on my bill.

One new thing I learned is that in CA, NV and a few other states have added a "luxury tax" where we now get to pay tax on the factory list price, regardless of the actual pruchased price. God I love this place....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] kidvi:
ive been out of contract for 2 years now. they wanted to retain me as a customer since ive been with them for a long long time (since i've had a cell phone actually ~2000)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] catcraig:
It's here. :D It arrived about 2 hours ago. Too busy at work this morning so I haven't had time to play with it yet. It looks like it's fully charged now. Hopefully this afternoon I'll have more time to explore.

First impression. It's pretty & shiny. I almost don't want to touch it and get fingerprints on it. The touchflo is tons smoother than it was on my old Tilt. The resolution is sharp. I won't have any trouble getting used to the larger screen.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ameiurus:
I've seen several questions about locating the AT&T rebate form but no answers yet. Anyone know where to get the rebate form for the Tilt2?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sakshaug007:
Is customer retentions an actual department/extension? Do I just call the customer service line and ask for customer retentions?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] PRTEQ:
YEEESSS FINALLY got mine... I am super happy...

Flashing a new ROM....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] adoute:
I can't remember exactly where I found it, but here is a pdf of the AT&T rebate form.

(had to zip it - too large to attach as a pdf)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Jamon723:
Tilt Apps on Tilt 2

I didn't want to have to install a 6.5 ROM, I would like to sell my Tilt after getting my Tilt 2.

ANYONE ELSE TRIED MOVING PURCHASED 6.1 APPS (Specifically Walking Hot Spot or Pocket Tunes) to THE TILT 2's WinMo 6.5 YET?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] BoostedSR20:
Thats crazy, I'm going to try this tonight. I'm due for an upgrade next month. I would just be happy to get it for $350 w/ the rebate. I'm ready to get the Tilt 2 and sell my TP2...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Jamon723:
tilt 1 apps on tilt 2

still wondering if anyone has tried installing PANDORA(.cab found here on xda) or WALKING HOT SPOT or any other tilt 1 apps on their n tilt 2?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] moderateinny:
They emailed me the rebate form and made no mention of me not getting it. I think I'm going to try...what the heck, if I can get the phone for $160, why not? :)

Now....where are all the cooked ROMs for this baby? :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poppinpengawen:
how did you guys get them to pull up the tilt 2? I just got off the phone with a customer service rep n he said they don't have it in their system. I called 611 n everything. Am I supposed to go straight to retentions? someone walk me thru this please my tilt died on me already so im without a phone until I get the tilt 2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] yzf750:
Ask for retentions dept. from the 611 operator that answers. Explain that your old tilt died and you are currently without a working phone and cant be without a phone. Tell them you would like a tilt 2 and want to stay with at&t , but will go to another carrier if they cant get you one since you cant be without a WM phone with a keyboard and other carriers offer this phone currently. Be nice with the retention rep. and you will be surprised. Post back your sucess :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Kvothe:
Got it...

Got it, it's beautiful, thanks ya'll, part of me wants to hold back but the stock att screen is looking up at me as if in challenge. Flashing will be happening very soon...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poppinpengawen:
thanks I'll try that right now :) wish me luck!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Tempest790:
Got mine today. :D Overall very pleased. This is a much better phone than the Fuze. The keyboard letters are spaced out and much better to type on. Still wish they had a Tab and CTRL key though.

Does anyone know how to change the top and bottom black bars to match AT&T Blue background? I love the blue background, but the black bars look a little out of place.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poppinpengawen:
I just got off the phone with retentions. I got them to pull it up n everything, but they were offering it to me for the 2-year contract price of 349.99 -___- I tried to get them to lower it by mentioning verizon's price but th rep said he couldn't do anything about the price. I was hoping I could get it lower ): I can't wait anymore but i'd rather get it for 200 on sunday with my friend's employee discount . -___-

any other ways that I could get em to lower it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] BoostedSR20:
My GF is on the phone with them right now (we have a family plan, her name is the main one on the account) she just dialed the 611 number.

She told them that we can't find the Tilt 2 in any stores, and we were thinking of switching to T-Mobile because they have it for sure in stores, and its cheaper. He told her right away we could have it for $200 w/2 yr contract, but had some issue with how the phone was listed. He went back and forth to make sure, and of course he came back with HTC Pure. :mad:

So then he comes back with the $350 + $50 MIR price. So she again tells him about switching to T-Mobile, and asks him if he has any suggestions or if there is someone else we can talk to, so he says he's gonna transfer her to sales.

So she explains it all over again to this person. So then he transfers her to "upgrades". Again this guy mentions the HTC Pure. So after some banter, he finally sends her to Retentions. :rolleyes:

Now she is on hold while the guy briefs retentions. He told her that they don't have the phone, the stores get em first.

So after more explination he is telling her that they don't get them until the 18th. Now she is telling him that we know of people who have them, that called in to get them, and got it over-nighted. Now he is checking to see if its even available to sell. He even asked us if it was on the web site.

We are now upto 47 minutes on the phone.

Sooooo after much debate, he comes back with yes we do have some, we can do $425 + $50 MIR, and $50 deduction from our account, and waiving the upgrade fee. He says he won't budge on the price because I'm not eligable for upgrade until November 18th. They joke back an forth and she tells him the upgrade thing is lame, so he goes back to check again. He comes back with the EXACT same deal, only this time $75 credit to our account. We decide to take that, and she asks about overnite shipping and he says he can't do it, and if he cant do it, no one can, and he has no idea how anyone got it. So we'll get priority shipping.

We are now upto just over an hour on the phone.

So the final deal worked out to $425 for the phone, $75 credit to the account, waive the $18 upgrade fee, and the $50 MIR.

So ALLLLLL that work, all that banter, and we end up with the $300 deal.

So we got from: its not available, to its available the 18th, to ok, they are here so its cool that we send you one.

Sorry this was so long, I honestly just sat here with her and blogged the whole damn thing as it happend, hopefully you guys enjoy the read. I'm gonna go put my TP2 up for sale. :cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] WatermelonSlim:
Every single US carrier beat AT&T. The closest one to AT&T was Verizon, who beat AT&T by about a month (and had a better device even- with a 3.5mm jack, CDMA and GSM) and then charged significantly less for it. How can you say they aren't last by a mile? Clearly, AT&T got smoked on this go round, and it wasn't even close.

And that is looking at it in the most positive light- assumiong AT&T actually releases the thing on the 8th. It could very well end up even later than that for all we know.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] godefroi:
I'd disagree. Looking at it in the MOST positive light would be to assume that AT&T just decided not to do all the R&D required to release it with WM6.1 knowing that they'd have to do it all over a month later with WM6.5. From AT&T's perspective, it's just another potentially-popular smartphone to be released on their already massively overloaded network. It's also something that'll cut into their iPhone 3GS sales.

I'd guess that from AT&T's point of view, it probably wasn't even a race, and certainly one they didn't need to win.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rowedave76:
People who want Iphones will get them (And have been able to for a couple years), HTC Pure and HTC Tilt 2 sales are going to have minimal impact on Iphone sales. At this point WM 6.5 will have no impact on Apple branding in the mobile phone market.

AT&T is going to get paid on either type of phone. The 2 year contracts are pretty similar as far as I know.

AT&T knows they need to release a few WM business type phones every year and while they may see a small boost in sales on initial release I doubt we'll see a large consumer movement towards them.

This is just another phone release and AT&T did not have a whole lot to gain by rushing it ahead of the 6.5 release. At this point they've garnered some attention as one of the first official 6.5 releases. For AT&T this is considered a win regardless of how many power-users have been clamoring for the release of the phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] WatermelonSlim:
Yes, had AT&T released it before it would have been most positive. But that ship has already sailed. Going forward, the best case scenario for AT&T is to release it on the 8th- which would mean they got smoked by every other US carrier.

On the training- there is very little re-training that would have to be done. Did you see the training documents posted on BGR? I don;t think any of it is specific to WM 6.5. So if that is the only training they got, it would have worked for both WM 6.1 and WM 6.5.

Face it, AT&T dropped the ball here. No matter how much you try to justify it, they got scooped by all of their competitors- with the closest one being almost a month better (and maybe over a month better when it's all said and done). And most of them have better versions of the device on top of that (3.5mm jack). And, to top it all off, Verizon (the closest one to AT&T) is selling theirs for significantly less than AT&T.

There is just no positiive to that for AT&T. The only positive is that AT&T is finally releasing it so I can finally get one with 3G and retire this Euro version I have been using to become a dedicated carputer/GPS device in one of my vehicles.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bxsteez:
I think i'm officially finished with At&t and their destructive ideas. They destroyed the TP now they destroyed the TP2. I'm not just talking about the removal of the number row i'm talking about the removal of the ctrl key and the shift key. They didn't even improve the device by adding wm6.5 or a 3.5mm headphone jack. Ehhh such crap but their 3G is soo GREAT!!! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] godefroi:
Isn't the bottom left key on the keyboard the shift key?

Oh, and yes, it definitely has WM6.5.

They did not, however, add a 3.5mm jack. In this, it's like all the other GSM versions. I wonder if it has something to do with the layout of the GSM board or something. *shrug*. I kinda wish it had one, but honestly, I bet I woulda plugged something into it maybe twice.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] WatermelonSlim:
Note that the CDMA version ALSO have GSM, but they include the 3.5mm jack. I don't think the GSM board layout has anything to do with it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bxsteez:
Ahh that is the shift key. I must have missed that. That being said it IS NOT like all other gsm phones. The UK version has a ctrl key and a dedicated number row. Its the same in the lack of 3.5mm headphone jack. It really sucks that they didnt choose to improve the device just ruin it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bersca:
Now that Leo is coming...

HD2 (Leo) is coming to the US in Q1 next year. How many of you have been waiting for the Tilt2 and, finally, its on our doorstep but will now hold off to buy the Leo if it comes to AT&T? I definitely want the Leo with that Snapdragon 1 GHz processor. But, I don't think I will be able to hold out waiting for it now that the Tilt2 is so close!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] louplou:
which device is the tilt 2

This might be an obvious question, I searched on "tilt 2" as I am getting mine this week. On the device database, which HTC name matches up to the tilt 2 so I can make sure to flash the right ROM? Thanks in advance!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] noggind614:
it's the rhodium, aka touch pro 2. if you flash it the keyboard layout will be a little different so you might want to wait a week or two before you do flash it to the chefs can get they tilt 2 kb layout implemented in their roms
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] player911:
I wonder if you could use the ProFuze layout changer that the original Touch Pros used. I think they layouts are the same on the older models.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bersca:
Not sure why you need to know that since you are on the Rhodium forum, I assume you know it is a Rhodium, but to answer your question completely it is: HTC Touch Pro2 (Rhodium 300). All you need to know is to use one of the GSM ROM's, not CDMA. GSM ROM's are for T-mobile and AT&T. CDMA will only work on Verizon and Sprint phones. I think that answers your question.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] noggind614:
i'm wondering that too. i'm thinking it will work with most buttons but i doubt every button is the same on the fuze, but i'm hoping i'm wrong. i would like to flash mine as soon as i could
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sdlopez83:
Effn My dilema as well. So pissed, I believe I will buy the yp2 and sell later on. But I will be out on an upgrade. Sucks. I hate this. I am so displeased by US carriers and there multi band bull****. Screws everything up all the time....and my girls mad that im on xda again...damn... goodbye...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] YodaJM:
Its the Rhodium, the section of the forums you are posting on ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] godefroi:
Yeah, I meant all the GSM versions lack a 3.5mm jack. Note that even though the CDMA versions have GSM, they don't have the 3G bands that you'll want if you're going to run on AT&T's network.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] godefroi:
Meh, it's an easy choice for me, because I'm not paying for it, my company is. My choices are either to stay on the loaner beat-up Kaiser I'm on, or switch to a shiny new Rhodium.

Easy choice.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] toawkanavngthded:
i was just wondering... the htc imagio has a weather widget on the homescreen... is this because of wm 6.5 or does htc imagio have sense ui? i was wondering cause i would love to have that on my tilt 2... i have been trying to watch vids of the pure and tilt 2 but i didnt see anything with the weather widget... any suggestions???
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] noggind614:
i think the imagio uses a different version of tf3d
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] contentryder:
mines came in today as well...(use the screen protector thats in the package...its a pretty decent one!)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gadgetluva:
Just got my tracking number, should be arriving on thursday. Ordered it late Monday night after some hassle (1st rep told me the no commit price was $879, the next one told me it was $540, but I talked her down to $500 like it should be, then the line got disconnected. Called back, she had put the price in the notes, and its on its way :) )
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] imabored:
update: so i did not receive my phone today even though i ordered it on friday mourning. I called and they told me that they were suppose to call me back about adding a data plan to my plan. I told them that I was told that i needed a data plan when i ordered the phone. i told her that i wanted to talk to retention but she said they're closed, so i told her i wanted to speak to a manager but there was none.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] JoeWilcox:
Wow.. AT&T is something else. After calling and canceling my order, having received 0 confirmation or status emails, my Tilt 2 showed up today. Of course so did T*Mobile Touch Pro I ordered yesterday.

In the end, I'm not 100% sure what I'm going to do. One thing I'm sure going to do is post an AT&T vs T*Mobile review in just a minute..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] imabored:
at least you're came. i'm still waiting for mine.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] WatermelonSlim:
You better include plan prices because that is the only way the T-Mobile version can compete. That is a butt ugly version. Ugly colors, all square and boxy, and not as "classy" looking as the European and AT&T versions.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RemE:
Update, I get mine tomorrow (via Fed-Ex 2-Day), suprisingly I just received an email with $50 rebate form for the phone! So that brings mine to $139 with the credit on my bill and free shipping, not too shabby!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] petard:
Is there anyone who isn't on the $30 data plan having problems with billing?

When I ordered my Tilt 2 on the 6th, shipped the 8th and they removed my $10 data plan (family messaging gets you $10 data plan for dumbphones) on the 10th. I called the same day and had them add it back using the IMEI of a dumbphone. Today, the 14th, I check online and I have 31MB of data pay per use. I do not believe it was on there yesterday. My unlimited data counter has also increased since yesterday.

I fear that they might be billing me pay per use based on the IMEI of the phone, not on the account. Then again this might have something to do with the little screw up on the 10th?