yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dizzyraider:
For those with much more experience with the different variety of ROMs, could you educate me on the difference between the 25xxx and 23xxx series? I've been on 23xxx for quite sometime and really did like it, but just recently decided to roll back to the 21xxx for its non beta feel, but with all these talk about the 25009TR2.5 rom, I'm started to get tempted....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lennyz1988:
wow...I flashed 25009 and it's reallly faster! With everything...scrolling, texting etc...Sticking with this rom for a while.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] babak:
is there anyway to change my BG wallpaper without using a cab in this rom?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lennyz1988:
The 6.2 series have bg4all installed. If you use the 6.3 then you need hdwall :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] babak:
thank for your replay,the problem is i like to choose one of my pic,you mean it is not possible with v6.2.21646(valkyrie.ftp v6.2.21646 4th april wm6.5.3 without extra tabbs) and if so which version exactly is your advise?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lennyz1988:
actually that's the 6.3 :P Just a typo. Did you install the htc fix? But if you want my advise then you should use the one in my sig :) It's the fastest and it has bg4all.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hotgtgal:
Can't flash rom!!!! Help

Does anybody know how to flash this rom???? I have been trying for a while now and still can't get it to flash. It keeps telling me that windows can not find the program to open the file. I don't know what else to do.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Hey there, another familiar face from the NRG thread. :D

Want 2.5 to run smoother than ever? Want no more speakerphone/dialer muting issues? Want a phone that just *works*?

Flash 25009TR2.5... it is WM 6.5.x with the start button below. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
It would be easier to help you if you said which ROM you're talking about...there are several in play right now.

The 6.2.25009TR2.5 version download needs to have the .nbh file inside renamed to "ruu_signed.nbh" due to a file-naming typo.

I don't know if you've flashed a custom rom before...if not you should read the "Flashing Your First GSM Rhodium Rom" sticky thread.

If you're not a flashing novice, but this one seems different...have you unzipped the .7z file and paired the .nbh file inside with customruu.exe? (on the Valky roms customruu.exe isn't included in the package, but if you don't have a copy from a previous custom rom it's available in the "flashing tools" download on Post#2).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MKK:
v6.2.25009TR2.5: sleep of death after using keyboard

Anyone know how a "sleep of death" problem related to the keyboard might be fixed? This is what happens: I text or email someone using the keyboard, finish my work, close the keyboard, device goes to sleep. I wake it up and it automatically reboots. I don't recall seeing any discussion of this topic back when v6.2.25009TR2.5 was fresh and new.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Been using this ROM heavily for over a week now, and have never seen this. Did you do a "Task 29" clean format before flashing to make sure you're not getting any ghost residual effects from previous ROMs?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
To be honest, this is really the easiest way to flash:

1. Make sure phone is hard-spl first

2. Make sure SD card is formatted with fat-32

3. rename the image file (ruu_signed.nbh) to rhodimg.nbh, then copy that to the ROOT OF THE MICRO SD CARD, Insert card into phone

4. With the phone turn off, set your phone in bootloader (Hold the "volume down" and hold the power on button until you see the tri-color screen. Then follow the on-screen instruction

5. Once it's done, just do a soft reset (use the stylus -> red button).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] babak:
no,i,v not installed that fix,i will try your version thanks :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
The HTC Menu fix is only needed for 25010 -- no other ROM.

Yeah, that is a popular way to flash (though not my way...call me old-school ;) ).

But I think the poster's problem (whatever it was) was more fundamental than USB-vs-SD card...but it's not clear from the minimal information supplied.

I agree with cmd512: This sounds more like a problem that I've had that's fixable by Task 29. And I've never had the Sleep of Death on 25009...or any Valky rom of the past month.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agent_47:
if u ask me, it don fit the bill of sod.....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dbaser:
No SOD here... fast and reliable!

Only issue I have is my IMAP mail sometimes gets hung on "Receiving headers" when the phone is asleep. Wake it up and it finishes checking... weird but it happens to me on almost everyone's roms....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] venkss:
Accelerometer

Thanks for the stable ROM.

My G-Sensor & Accelerometer games like Teeter are not working anymore. Is there something that I should enable?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Hmmm.... I hadn't tried Teeter in a long time, but you're right -- I see there is something funny going on. Game-playing works and looks as normal, the two buttons that ask whether you want to re-play or exit (something like that) and ask you whether you want to resume from last level or start from scratch (something like that) have no text-label visible on them. :eek: I remember which is which, but it would be a problem if I didn't.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MKK:
Thanks for all the replies. Nope, I did not use Task 29, since I'd only flashed once before on my Tilt 2 and because I'd only just heard of Task 29 a week or so ago. I'll be sure to use it next time I flash . . . something I was hoping not to do for sometime.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] venkss:
Is the while ball in the Teeter game moving around when you turn the phone? For me, it doesn't move at all.

Also, when I go into G-Senor config, and click "Calibrate", it just stays on "Calibrating" forever.

Are there any other tests that I can do to make sure my accelerometer works?

Please help.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Mine works fine. Calibration under G-sensor worked with no issues as well.

Same response as above: Task 29 time. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dizzyraider:
Hahahah, I saw the bashing that you received when you spoke about you ROM performance in the other thread :D

I guess my real question is, understanding that most chefs cook either 21xxx (6.5) and 23xxx (6.5.x) line, I haven't seen a whole lot of 25xxx and 28xxx as of late. Is there and noticeable difference between the 23xxx and 25xxx? Just curious about a prospective ROM :rolleyes:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Yeah, did you see the blurb about how he went nuts because someone recommended an older ROM of his... as if his newer one was less superior? I was like dude, seriously, get a grip.

Since I jumped from 23xxx to 25xxx, I can confidently comment on the following:

1) gwes.exe memory usage is MUCH better on 25xxx. I have yet to see 25009 go above 30MB under task manager even after several days of use.

2) Not sure if this is WM version related, but agent47's 25009 is lightspeeds faster than any 23xxx Sense 2.5 ROM I've used.

3) There has been no loss of function. In fact, everything from messaging to making calls just seems faster on 25xxx.

Give it a try, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Confirmed I do have the two blank buttons on exit. But, as for the game itself, I just played 7 levels with no problems. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] venkss:
The Teeter game doesn't work for me nor any of the accelerometer based stuff. Is acceloremeter a hardware thing that might be broken in my phone? How can I fix it?

any help is much appreciated.

Edit: BTW, I did Task29 and reflashed. Still the same issue
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
RE Teeter:

This is off-topic...but have you been above level 30 or 31? I went that far a few weeks ago and got seriously stalled on 31. It was a sick and twisted nightmare. :p

Just wondering how many levels Teeter has...?

(yeah...I know I can search :o , but...)

It sure sounds like you might have a real problem. Task 29 is like beyond hard-reset, so if that didn't fix it maybe it's hardware.

Have you tried flashing a different rom? Maybe you've already mentioned, but I don't remember.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
That might be the case as mine works fine. Aside from Teeter, I also use G-Alarm, and for my "disable alarm," I have it set to "put phone face down," which works every morning like a charm.

Your phone should still be under warranty, I'd get it swapped out asap.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
I think the highest I got was 27 before I flashed to another ROM a while back. Gets silly after a while... :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
My friends accelerometer did not work any more either (too many drops), so by accident he dropped the phone again. Voila! The accelerometer works again. So I really think you have a hardware related problem if a task29 and a new flash don't work for you. Try throwing youl phone...lol:D.

Just kidding, u better not.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dizzyraider:
thanks, these were the insight I was itching to know :D

Yeah, I did see that, I did think it was a bit of over reaction. But I guess considering how many users in that thread don't know how to politely post bugs/issues, I'm actually a bit sympathetic about his outburst.

I've been dying to find a ROM that will have me stop flashing for a while, so far the longest time I've had a ROM without flashing is about a week (damn ORD I tell ya). Hopefully this will be it :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
P.S. cmd512, 28232 is still working well for me. Even starcraft is working well.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
That, or he's full of himself from the groupies that relentlessly kiss his ass, lol.

BTW, one thing to note: This Valkyrie ROM does take a bit to setup as it's pretty barebones compared to some other "off the shelf" ROMs. For instance, I had to do the following:

1) Get rid of quickmenu & install arkswitch

2) Upgrade to ninjaduck's Opera 10

3) Install Swype

4) Install HTC GPSTool

5) Install Fdcsoft TaskManager (+ RegEdit)

But, when it's all said and done, the end result is fantastic, and it's running better than I could have ever imagined.

Yeah, I know. This weekend looks like it'll be more relaxed, so I might just take the plunge and give it a shot. Must be pretty good if agent hasn't bother upgrading from it, right? :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
I agree, sound like he did some tests/benchmarks hmself.

Wonder if any releases les than 28xxx (as a number) are less likely to be good???

An interesting thing: I still have a barely used TP2 (wife did not like it) for sale with rom 23519 on it. It runs very well, about 9sec or so to open PIM.

That is still less than 25009 took(17sec). Go figure!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
That's the exact opposite experience I had as I moved from 235xx ROMs. They were fine after a fresh reset... but got slower after more use. That's the main difference between 235xx and these 25xxx ROMs I've tried.

I don't know about opening PIM, but 25009 opens stuff fairly quickly on my system. Will do a heads-up comparison soon though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
Cool, would be interested in what you think.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dizzyraider:
Hahahaha, groupies...

Cool, I have no problem further setting up a ROM as I do that anyways :rolleyes:

From what I read, it seems TR and Leo do have the Rhodium dialer. I do want to know if the 25009 dialer supports landscape when receiving calls, since I have the phone in landscape mode when using it with my car mount (use iGO8 all the time). For some reason, it seems the other ROM I ran that had the Rhodium dialer could not display itself as calls are coming in while in landscape.

and thanks for providing info on this Gem stone :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
Can't remember if 25009 does, but 28232 does for sure. (have it on my phone)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dizzyraider:
cool thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sc0174:
LOL Not sure if the same blurb ur talking about but that was me he went off on. Then I was attacked by all his groupies. I reported him to XDA they were not to happy with his behavior and they sent me an apology via email. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lennyz1988:
I checked it with the 25009. And when I get a call in landscape I can't see the number. It just displays the home screen. But I can answer it with the hard buttons. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dizzyraider:
ok, crap... that's what I was referring to as happening with the other ROM. Thanks for the heads up.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lennyz1988:
You can try to install a leo dialer or something similair. Maybe that will help. I'm not sure because I never tested it. But I think it could work.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
As I remember, there were issues with that too.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Any plans for 23557 or 23113 ? :)

Anybody has an opinion about performance of 235xx eris vs 231xx ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
Hmm, read too many negative things about 23112, so I was reluctant to flash it. Maybe I still will just to give it a test run.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dizzyraider:
I'm actually wondering if it has anything to do with 6.5.x in general. I have found that it shows up just fine with the regular 6.5. I tried installing an older Rhodium dialer that I know works with landscape in the other 6.5.x ROM I was using, and found that it was still unable to show up correctly in landscape.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
it works fine in 28232.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alcibiade:
I am still on 28232 :)

OK so if 23112 is so buggy (and probably 23113 as well), will we see a 23557 ? Or it's slower ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
FWIW: 23112 wasn't buggy for me. The only issue I had was that Sense animation seemed a little slow/laggy/unfluid compared to 25009 -- I didn't have trouble with anything else.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wagool:
I still on 28232, I belived 28232 of Agnet_47 is the finest ROM now!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
Cmd512, have you had a chance to give 28232 a try? Would like your oppinion on it sice you have been using 25009 for so long.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lennyz1988:
Today I had to laugh a little bit. In alot of other rom threads they talk about bugs and fixes etc. (and I mean that with no disrespect). But in here we almost only talk about which version is faster :P And more specific about which version having the least lag when scrolling down on the home screen... :D It's funny in a way ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Seifer1975:
+1. still loving 28232. see no reasons to change. this from someone who used to average a flash every 3 days max. agent has caused me to settle down. ha ha
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dario69:
Ditto. I haven't seen a custom rom yet to pry me away from 28232. Too bad he doesn't have a version for the Diamond2. I would love to get this rom on that phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jsmith8858:
+3 here. Still loving 28232TR2.5. This is the longest I've ever gone without reflashing since using custom ROMs, including back in my FUZE days.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmicha:
28232TR2.5 Download?

Hey guys, I would love to try this as I see people are saying the dialer works in landscape with incoming calls?

Can anyone confirm if any of the newer versions of this great ROM have dialer working in landscape with incoming calls?

thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
yes, the landscape dialer works.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Psych0t1c20:
Any new release coming? Fast one I hope :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmicha:
Incoming Call w/ landscape Dialer

That sounds like great news!

Just to clarify, if you are in landscape texting for instance, and a call comes in, you can see the dialer pop up and who is calling?

If so, which versions are supported?

Thanks again!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lennyz1988:
As clauswl says the dialer is working in 28232TR2.5 in other version I don't know. It does not work in the version that I use.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
On an incoming call the dialer will not pop up and no pic is displayed of the person calling. I don't know even which rom supports that, unless maybe sense 2.1 does. To me the landscape thing is not too important.

I noticed though that the instance the phone is closed the dialer pops up with the persons contact pic (during an incoming call).

All the outgoung dial functions work fine in landscape mode.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] oabcoabco:
me too

:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GarFie:
Dialer in landscape mode

I believe that You will not find any WinMo 6.5.x version ROM with working dialer on incoming call. Don't bother, I've tested many. That was also confirmed by one of the chefs. HTC designed dialer to work with WinMo 6.5. Look for WinMo 6.5 version ROMs (21xxx builds).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
The 21xx build are with sense 2.1 though, they are not near as cool:D

Also, I think 21xx is using win 6.5, not the fingerfriendly 6.5.x.

If someone calls, I can always just slide the keyboard shut.

At least the outgoind dialer works well with 28232.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GarFie:
Don't go that far. Manila version depends on the chef, not the WinMo build.

Need to agree with that. ;)

21xxx builds are WinMo 6.5. And You're correct, theye are less finger friendly that 6.5.x (but more finger friendly than WinMo 6.1 ;)). "Finger friendliness" is, I think, the main goal in those builds.

Unless You have your device in a car mount, in landscape position. It's quite hard to rotate the phone in a car mount while driving. ;)

Indeed, the dialer has only problem with incoming calls.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
Never used thr phone like that, but one of the older roms might support all that. I am flashing a few different roms onto my phone tonight, I will see....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aznsniper:
quite strangely enough, for some reason 28232 hasn't ever worked for me. It has always been laggy and tends to freeze alot, might be my fone not likeing it or something. ive been using 25009 and its been great. Which version are u using of 28232? LEO or TR? and are they similiar in speed? I might give it a try again
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
28232leo, max manila, and for somestrange reason the multi tab feature (MTP) sped up manilla a lot!?! Manila is very vsry fast (scrolling feature), so far the rom has been smooth. I might give some different page pools a try, mayby some memory can be freed up.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
New Co0kie Home Tab (v1.70) in the next Valky release???

@agent_47: You haven't built this into your most-recent releases...but when you release another, if you decide to include "co0kie" again (please), this new version has a ton of useful new features -- seems like it should have been called "v2.0", instead of merely 1.7. ;)

Some people may not want it included at all... so maybe two sub-versions?

Until then, I'll just install manually, as I have on 25009TR2.5. The new v1.7 features don't seem to be at any cost in animation speed/fluidity...at least not on the totally-great 6.2.25009TR2.5. Thanks! :)

A couple of new customization possibilities as below. I prefer the more-conventional second one. There are a lot more possibilities, too. An updated v1.7 CHT editor assists.

View attachment 308941 - View attachment 308942

Off topic?? Perhaps... :o
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bacco:
Thanks for the heads-up MCbrian...since I'm using the latest ROM, I'll just install v1.7 :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DeathmonkeyGTX:
Hi there, agent_47. I was wondering if you would mind cooking up a 25xxx ROM without Sense/Manila? I rock SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.3 due to RAM utilization.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jcm999:
I'll second that request. I like this version of Cookie!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Just wondering: How different is a "nonSense" version from just turning off Sense under Home>Items? Does the presence of Sense in the rom occupy ram even if it's turned off?

Just wondering....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DeathmonkeyGTX:
Turning it off helps, but when I installed one of b16b's ROM's (23547) without Sense, I had 120 MB of RAM free upon first boot, ~105 MB after installing SPB and all my crap. With other ROM's that come with Sense when I disable it, I never get free RAM over 95MB or so. Rhodium frickin' screams if it has ~100MB+ free RAM.

I keep reading awesome stuff about agent's ROM's and the 25xxx builds, and I'd love to give it a whirl. I'd be so stoked if I could go more than a week without flashing a ROM...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jcm999:
Agent_47, I just wanted to post a bug report that I haven't seen previously mentioned. The following problem has occurred for me on versions 6.2.23110TR2.5, 6.3.13112TR2.5, and 6.3.25010TR2.5. The problem revolves around entering "Speed Dial" numbers from the phone dialer. On one of the above versions (I think it was 25010) selecting "Speed Dial" from the phone menu would not do anything. The other versions would allow you to select "Speed Dial" once and would bring up the entry screen where you could enter as many SD's as you wanted, but if you ever came back again to add more or edit existing entries, selecting "Speed Dial" would no longer work.

I, like many others, have switched back to 6.2.25009TR2.5 where the "Speed Dial" functions normally. I just wish this version did not have the NON-finger-friendly PIN pad for the lock screen!

BTW, I have used Task29 before each ROM load to ensure that there weren't any old remnants causing the problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DeathmonkeyGTX:
Fu*k it, I'm going to Resco Backup my Athine OS 23547 (Sense-less) and try 25xxx from Agent.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Just remembered: agent_47 did post a recent Sense-free version -- he calls those "Rhodio". There's a version 25010 on Post#4. The post notation may be a little confusing -- it says "3.6" and below that says "6.3" -- the 3.6 is a typo. 6.3.25010 may be just what you're looking for.

I'd forgotten until now...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jcm999:
Hey MCbrian, I just installed the new Co0kie and editor but I can't figure out how to change the clock displays. I've been through every option on the editor! What am I missing??