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[General Questions and Answers] foopmaster:
Hmm, I can't remember the last time I dropped a call. Probably happens more in "population dense" areas (e.i., not here).

Anyway, I want to find the answer to this question as well. From all the specs I see the phone is theoretically capable of running on AT&T's 3G (UMTS 850 and 1900 Mhz).

Source: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2062&c=htc_hd2_us_htc_leo

However, I'm not an expert on US phone bands. Perhaps a seasoned XDA developer could help us with this?
[General Questions and Answers] galaxys:
Those specs on pdadb are not final "Datasheet State: Preliminary specifications".

But yes, it would do 3G on at&t if finalized UMTS 850 & 1900 Mhz).
[General Questions and Answers] borillion_star:
I bought one

I just purchased one from amazon on pre-order, my cousin is shipping it to me as soon as it gets to him.

Anyone up for working on building an android rom for for it, not a big fan of WinMobile. In-fact :D this is the whole reason I got it besides the fact its a sweet phone!!!
[General Questions and Answers] boqonx:
This does sound weird..If the main reason of getting the phone is android, why not just wait for a native android phone that has a similar spec? (e.g. HTC Dragon / Acer Liquid / Experia X3)
[General Questions and Answers] petabread:
Not trying to be a jerk, but I figured I would share my insight/experience with the issue you had with Sprint/Nextel, and will probably have with AT&T and any other provider you go with.

I work for T-Mobile currently, and have been there for over 5 years now (and will tell you right now, The HD2 is coming to us.) The issue you had is the most common complaint in the industry. The truth is, no matter where you go, it'll be the same thing. On top of it not being "fair" to customers that are just as loyal, but only have 7 years tenure instead of 10 years, it's the fact that you "only being 2 months away from your full discount pricing," that company could potentially be losing 2 months of your commitment. Meaning, if they make you wait till your contract is over, they'll get a fresh 2 years out of you. If they give it to you 2 months before your contract is over, they'll only get 22 months out of you. You see my point ? Now, what I personally think should be done is, you have 2 months to go ? Okay, we'll make your contract be a solid 26 months, and you get your "full discount" today, early.

Cellphone customers really need to be grateful about getting plan discounts, loyalty credits, full upgrades, partial upgrades. Because let me tell you. Not every business out there gives loyal customers anything. I've been a loyal "Florida Power and Light" customer for 6 years, never had a late payment and inturn have never been given a discount on my electric bill. I mean, how often does your credit card company send you a letter saying, "Hey, you've been such a loyal customer...here's a 12% off discount for being a AAA member, and for every customer you refer to us we'll give you $175 credit to your bill!" Ya know ? I'm not expecting anyone to LIKE this answer. But it IS the reason, and I'm sure the rep's answer that you're dealing with at the time, "Because!," doesn't do it for you. So I figured I'd take the time to inform you guys.
[General Questions and Answers] bennyj71:
Since you work for T-Mo can post the final specs for the HD2 when they get finalized for the US? I'm with ATT and haven't had a problem with dropped calls for 4 years now.(I think it's something wrong with build of the Iphone) I'm not trying to switch carriers, just want a badass phone.
[General Questions and Answers] ilordvader:
I want to know what will we be missing in TP2

if we dont get the Htc HD2 ?

All i see is-

HD will be Faster cos 1 Ghz processor

Has capacitive touch screen

It will have the weather under Clock pre-installed

& the we dont need to set our city it will auto detet the City

Will it run on H or just 3g ( seems like ATT is blocking Hsdpa cos of Heavey load)

Will we be able to do Tethering with it ?

Cos Att blocks that :(

Anything else im Missing Please ?

Which is the best safe Site to Order with here in USA ?

Hate it when later they say its not here yet

Nov9 Shipping date on onthegosolutions

could it be true ?

Thanks
[General Questions and Answers] opTiTr0n:
t-mobile ad spied

t-mobile (US) ad spied?

http://www.tmonews.com/2009/10/htc-hd2/
[General Questions and Answers] ilordvader:
Hope Att Picks it up too :)
[General Questions and Answers] bL1X:
I just got off the phone with a HTC tech support. I had some questions about the release date. I wanted to know if it was going to release in Q1 2010 fiscal or Q1 2010 calendar. Get this, he said all he knew was Q1 2010 to T-mobile. :( sucks for me because T-mobile is non-existent in my neck of the woods.
[General Questions and Answers] cscoot03:
I agree (I'm w/SECO) but TMO reception is really bad where I live & I've been following the 'LEO' for a long time patiently waiting for it & if it's only going to TMO I think I'm going to ... well maybe get some sort of 'mi-fi' to use it. I need a phone & the HD2 is what I want. Thanks
[General Questions and Answers] ilordvader:
Wont be before Mar 2010 or latter

you will see
[General Questions and Answers] galaxys:
Why is that?
[General Questions and Answers] rambo6:
Everyone Should Complain to HTC

The HD2 will most likely come to T-Mobile First, then to the crappy CDMA carriers (Sprint & Verizon) and then finally to AT&T just like the Touch Pro 2 did.

The problem is we shouldn't have to wait. HTC used to make unlocked GSM models with 850, 1900, and 2100 3G bands which meant that someone in the US could buy one as soon as they were out instead of waiting months and months for a stateside carrier to pick it up.

Now HTC is so damned in bed with the carriers that they don't dare do it. Personally, I thin this sucks. Everyone on this forum should complain to HTC and even consider boycotting them until they start making unlocked World Wide 3G phones again.

It seemed that we had to wait forever to get a big screened HTC phone (TP2) competitive with the I-Phone. The problem is that when it finally came to the states, it really wasn't that competitive.

I wish every single member of this forum who lives in the U.S. would write HTC a letter demanding that they start making the unlocked phones again with 3G bands which work in the US and Europe. Better yet a phone with 850, 1700, 1900, and 2100 so it could be used on either AT&T or T-Mobile.

Just my thoughts.
[General Questions and Answers] Shammyh:
I know this is a month old, but unless anything new is heard about this, I very much second rambo6's opinion.

Let crazy at&t customers drop the cash if they want and just get a regular unlocked unsubsidized phone. Stupid for HTC too, cause there are plenty of american 850Mhz 3g customers with deep pockets. Would also be nice if at&t didn't take their winmo users for granted, cause in 2-3 years when LTE starts rolling out and everybody is finally using the same standard, a lot of people will be leaving.
[General Questions and Answers] cscoot03:
It's good to see these replies. Regardless these phones are coming from China (communist ? ) where we're buying all our equipment from, I've had the all the way to the Pre, & stopped realizing what is being done to us (guinea pigs?) to test their phones & give them our money. Many are saying Windows is getting 'long in the tooth' yet some still use this w/our PC's, Google for it's speed to use MSN & Yahoo for families & others for our own needs. So we have our knowledge, requests & needs. I'm pissed we are being treated this way, (the Army taught me this) & I've stopped buying these phones ( I too have a long list).

At my age now going to virtual w/the HD2will be an adjustment, the Passion has shrunk in size so no use to me. I've seen the 5" screen but useless as a phone. The 4.3" has its faults, but still with grandaddy, Microsoft (which we all learned & some still use).

The longer I wait the more money I have to spend, if only our phone would get here from a trusting source, even if it takes a couple more years.

I am no puppet, robot or a guinea pig.

It's good to hear others wait, regardless of the difficulties this shows our strength.
[General Questions and Answers] cscoot03:
There is one more item I would like to add, our 'speed' is minimal compared to South Korea, we have no plan. So I will stick w/the HD2 for its speed, yes granddaddy knowledge & wait for, maybe Android to grow up. there is a new generation on it's way. We'll see. Please not let this post die, contribute when you learn more. Thanks
[General Questions and Answers] ilordvader:
When the HD comes to USA will it have all udated software & bios

or we too will have camera issues, etc on the phone ?
[General Questions and Answers] galaxys:
HTC is located in Taiwan which is not China or communist.
[General Questions and Answers] cscoot03:
OK I apologise for that I meant no insult.

In resemblance than why can the phone we ask for be made, considering there are similarities, money, power, you can't always get what you ask (pay) for)? I am tired of throwing my money away in this 'garbage' society & if it comes down to doing without, who does this affect? Considering the camera, I have a camera, an all in one will never be made.
[General Questions and Answers] AllTheWay:
According to the specs in the first post the HD2 doesn't have the necessary bands to get 3G in the United States with AT&T. Being that it uses the 900/2100mhz HSPA/WCDMA frequency and AT&T requires the 850/1900mhz for 3G.

I was one of the few people to purchase the original HD last year.

As I loved the device and screen it was hard not having a device that didn't have 3G. The EDGE speeds were ok but I was constantly searching for WIFI areas in which I could display how nice the device really was. If you are not a heavy internet user then it wouldn't be that bad to have this phone. Plus you might be able to save a little bit of money not having to pay for the $30 month data plan associated with it.

I doubt this device will be coming to AT&T, being that it would be in direct competition with the iPhone.
[General Questions and Answers] cscoot03:
Thank you for that.

If the HD2 is seeming a no go, is there another with a suitable size screen & not a 1st GEN phone you might suggest? Carrier by choice doesn't have to be ATT or Sprint.

Android is upcoming do you think waiting until 2010 is advisable?

Thanks
[General Questions and Answers] AllTheWay:
Another alternative would be to purchase a Teltra version of the Touch HD. This phone comes with the 850mhz 3G band that is needed by AT&T. However 850 is not as widespread as 1900. 850mhz does give you faster internet speeds and better building penetration.

http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/phones/phone_details.cfm?phone=Touch HD

Looks like the Touch HD2 is also going to be released as well that will have the 3G band.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=596339

I would wait for it to be released then if you really want the Touch HD2 then you should save up for the Australian version of it.

Also found that a ROM has been released for the Telstra Australian version.

http://htcpedia.com/official_wm_rom_htc_hd_leo_telstra_english_version/soft/htc-leo-rom
[General Questions and Answers] cscoot03:
Thank you. I will continue(frown) to wait. With 2010 I think more will have to update in comparison to the HD2. 3G after being w/4G, How could you go slower? ATT is not a necessity nor TMO (reception) the 9700 (possibility?) seems Big Red is developing in the background, makes me ask; (If I may) what do you use & do you have a selection you might be interested in? Thank you, I appreciate this.
[General Questions and Answers] ilordvader:
I agree

why would we get a 3G phone when New 4G will be out there soon :)
[General Questions and Answers] kennethpenn:
The HD2 from Australia will have AT&T's 3G bands?
[General Questions and Answers] cscoot03:
Thank you xda-developers.
[General Questions and Answers] AllTheWay:
yes the hd2 will have the necessary bands to work on the att network. better start saving up some money for it
[General Questions and Answers] cscoot03:
http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/dec2009/tc20091215_283413.htm Interesting tidbit to what is about to challenge.
[General Questions and Answers] cscoot03:
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/8691.html Here's a price for the HD2
[General Questions and Answers] ilordvader:
Like its says, "...maybe buying HD2 is a bit pointless"
[General Questions and Answers] cscoot03:
If the Passion was the Dragon, the supposed HD2 update & Vodaphone has stopped selling the HD2, if pointless is the word, can the secret be so hidden that so many (FCC) has not found, what (surprise) are we waiting for?
[General Questions and Answers] rambo6:
HTC HD2

Great comments. I've looked into buying a phone from Telstra before. I couldn't get anyone to call me back. You're also looking at paying a small fortune. Even though AT&T is trying to turn all it's 3G from the 1900 frequency to the 850, If I'm going to pay that much for a phone, I want 850 and 1900 for the most coverage.

Another place to get the HD2 may be Rogers in Canada. If Rogers gets the HD2, it has the 850 and 1900 frequencies. I almost bought an HTC G1 from Rogers just to try on AT&T's network. I found a Rogers HTC Dream (aka G1) on ebay for about $430 US but I didn't buy it because the G1 and dream have so little internal memory.

I bought an AT&T Tilt 2 rather than buying a T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 a few months earlier. I'm glad I waited because I just got done testing the TP2 on T-Mobile and the Tilt 2 on AT&T. They're basically the same phone but in a bunch of speed tests I performed back to back, AT&T was twice as fast.

I was going to buy a Nokia N900 to try out on T-Mobile's US network, but after the speed tests on T-Mobile 3G in Salt Lake City, I'm not too impressed with the T-Mobile 3G. It was as laggy as Verizon's

I've made a few posts in the General Section of this Forum entitled something like: "I'm disappointed with HTC due to the lack of 3G radios." I really feel HTC is screwing us. They need to put a bunch of 3G radios in their expensive phones so that they can be used everywhere. The resale value of these phones will also be enhanced.

All 250,000 active members of this forum need petition HTC so that they will make Quad Band 3G unlocked phones. Other manufacturers are looking at doing it.
[General Questions and Answers] cscoot03:
Thanks, I agree concidering the memories with the earlier G1 regardless the updates are arriving (where's it gonna go), I have already replied your other threads how HTC is running us in circles. As with my previous thread the wheel has come full circle. Only answer I can see at the moment (hopefully) is in 2010. The Military is using Windows & have their own phone which we never will(if wanted I'll back up & copy the url). Maybe that's what we are the studies for the Military perfection. I'm ETS'ed so I can say gee thanks a lot...
[General Questions and Answers] :
Leo will be going to Tmobile first, and that is going to be launching in March.

I have heard nothing about when it will be out for ATT and if it will be at all.
[General Questions and Answers] rambo6:
If the HD2 comes to T-Mobile in March, it will be on AT&T many months later. Look at the release of the TP2 - T-Mobille had it first, then months later AT&T got it. AT&T is on the bottom of the list for manufacurers other than Apple because the manufacurers know that their phones will be marketed less agressively because of the I-Phone (Idiot-Phone) hoopla.
[General Questions and Answers] ilordvader:
I think thats GOOD NEWS :)

when T mobile got TP2 it was 6.1

& Att got it in 6.5

Now T mobile will get HD2 in 6.5

& Att will get it in WM 7 ;)
[General Questions and Answers] cscoot03:
Or be impatient & get a 9700 now for $99.:)
[General Questions and Answers] rambo6:
What's a 9700? Some Nokia?
[General Questions and Answers] cscoot03:
BB Bold 9700
[General Questions and Answers] cscoot03:
Spoke w/a friend (reputable) he uses the 9000, said the Iphone is for the Apps. The 9700 is what is needed to do what needs to be done, yes this is w/ATT but the other carriers have their own slightly changed for their own needs. the Tour may go around the world but when I leave I'll get something else. I'm not happy w/the HD2 going to TMO but w/patients it will get to other carriers. I understand the sarcasm (Nokia?) but fruitfully throwing money away & not having a phone is an important subject. Mine needs to be portable so a pro2's keyboard is of no help to me. I think that the HD2 will be improved (they all are) so temporarily I will wait a little longer, saving my money & within the next 2 weeks the 9700 (temporarily) is at the top of the list. (they may not be used but if you only knew how many phones I have (all the way to 4G)). The 9700 may sound like a set back but I am a stickler for the correct phone. I do not really believe in 1st (sometimes 2nd) Gen phones.

One more thing I'm on the PC more than 12 hours every day.

I do appreciate the intelligent replies from many including those that own & comment. We need this. Thanks

(Nokia, lol).
[General Questions and Answers] cscoot03:
Today I'd like to add that the Leo is still at the top of the list, if I were going to BB I'd get the 9630 which has the 7bit, the 9700 may be cheap yet that says it all.

The TP2 is a nice phone but the KB is 'extraordinary' to me (not useful for my needs) true it is a nice phone.

My only drawback is battery although I always buy extra batteries (this I find self defeating). Thanks
[General Questions and Answers] cscoot03:
A slight question remains is the 'Incredible' the Dragon?

I love that name for a phone.
[General Questions and Answers] rambo6:
ITG XP Phone

What I want is a phone that can do what my laptop can. The BBs are great - Fast, Simple, Reliable. RIM has grown incredibly. The I-Phone is a juggernaut. It's plowing everything aside in it's wake. I even broke down and bought my wife a 3GS for Christmas. My kids all use the I-Phone 3G and I'm the lone man in the house using WinMo.

I use my phone for business first and entertainment second. My first consideration is speed. My second consideration is speed. My third consideration is speed. My fourth consideration is great apps.

Here's the ideal phone:

Atom or Snapdragon Processor running at least 1 Ghz

5 Band 3G 850/900/1700/1900/2100 with 4 Band Edge

Windows XP Operating System

4.3" to 5" Screen

Qwerty Keyboard with keys laid out correctly including Ctrl key

Small track pad, D pad, or rollerball

Rear Facing Camera with Flash at least 5MP

Front facing Camera

Video Recording at min 30fps

ITG has come up with this XP Phone thing see: http://www.xpphone.com/en/

This is what I really want. I'm going to contact MSI, HP, Dell, TI, etc. They all should make something like this. I don't have much faith that ITG will get this done.

Imagine the possibilities of having a fully functional Windows XP device with a phone in it!!! You could do anything you need to.
[General Questions and Answers] cscoot03:
Wow, you've got it but do you really think someone could make this & sell this in a large quantity, to continue it & make money off of it?

Good Luck contacting all those you said, keep us informed.
[General Questions and Answers] cscoot03:
Question: are we running over to TMO now for the HD2?
[General Questions and Answers] galaxys:
In anticipation, I did it years ago ;)
[General Questions and Answers] cscoot03:
Interesting
[General Questions and Answers] cscoot03:
http://gizmodo.com/5400593/htc-touch-hd2-review-a-tragedy
[General Questions and Answers] cscoot03:
http://www.myviliv.com/eng/ces2010/ces2010_Invitation.html
[General Questions and Answers] cscoot03:
http://www.redmondpie.com/windows-mobile-6.5.3-for-htc-hd2-9140278/

Thinking by the time it gets here this is 'really' going to be a knock out.
[General Questions and Answers] rambo6:
Year end is so busy that I've not had much time to post. I just bought my wife a 3GS for Christmas. She was using an HTC Kaiser but I kept finding her using one of the kids' I-Phone all the time and she (not being very computer savy) had a harder time navigating around Windows Mobile 6.1 and 6.5. I mention this only because I would have bought her a Leo had it been available.

It has given me the opportunity to play with her 3GS a bit. It's not too shabby. I was able to jailbreak it quite easily after a few hours on the web. It runs fast and is very stable and most importantly is finger freindly.

I mention this only because I think that Apple's next generation I-phone is going to multi-task and have other improvements which will make the choice between it and the Leo or other HTC offering much more difficult.

As for T-Mobile, I have a TMO account as well as an AT&T account. So far AT&T bests TMO's 3G speeds where I live. However, TMO may be my choice of carrier in 2010. I'm strongly considering buying the Nokia N900 to play with until I can purchase a LEO or a NexusOne running Android.

The Android and the I-Phone are not quite there for me yet but they're getting close. HTC & AT&T better get their act together and soon.
[General Questions and Answers] ilordvader:
Till the Next iPhone is out

there will be some New HTC phones ;)
[General Questions and Answers] cscoot03:
Are you talking about the Nexus One?

Maybe a phone I can buy straight out, flash it & use it with whomever I'd like?

(I sure did decide no 9700 for me, I'd get the Tour 2 but these are only words).
[General Questions and Answers] cscoot03:
http://www.engadget.com/

Here's the word it's on its way.
[General Questions and Answers] cscoot03:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2010/jan10/01-06CESKeynote.mspx
[General Questions and Answers] rambo6:
I was a bit sorry when I learned that the HD2 was a T-Mobile exclusive. However, I also learned that T-Mobile is going to upgrade it's whole network immediately to 7.2Mbps. I'm in if that's the case.

I was going to by the Nexus One but I think I'd rather have the HD2.
[General Questions and Answers] cscoot03:
Good things come to those who wait. Microsoft is still one step ahead of Apple. It can only get better. The CES isn't showing very many surprises except one big telivision.
[General Questions and Answers] cscoot03:
Not to take up space but I can't believe the HD2 will stay with only TMO, if thats the case it seems the HD2 is in the same boat as the iphone. Personally the HD2 1st out is already ahead of the iphone unlesss you want to spend a fortune on all those apps & have something you can't improve its memory or speed.