yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
Using an TMobile HTC Touch Pro 2 and Energy.RHODIUM.28244.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Feb.01.7z, I'm confused about the necessity of the NoPushInternet_v2.CAB at

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=532948

and suggested by the FAQ. But I've read the pages of this thread and it appears that it may not be relevant to a TMobile TP2.

It appears the TMobile TP2 doesn't have pushinternet and so I'm not certain if this cab will remove Opera from RAM, or if Opera is even in RAM with a TMobile TP2 (pushinternet and opera seems to be tied together here).

On the other hand, I'd love to have any memory savings, if these reg changes are indeed effective with my specs.

Any advice would be much appreciated,

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
It's not needed.

If you use ArkSwitch, then swipe left or right, you will see processes.

Notice that unless you are actually running Opera, there is not process for Opera.

That thread is really old, with only about 5 posts in the last year.

I have also looked using CE Remote Process Viewere and don't see anything related to Opera.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
@JVH3

Thank you for another one of your quick, informative answers. That cab did appear unnecessary, but I couldn't be sure, and I'm glad I didn't install it.

Thanks again,

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Was my answer to you not sufficient? It is a known issue with the HTC YouTube application. As I already explained, the HQ audio codecs that HTC uses are now obsolete with YouTube. There is no work around or fix for that other than using the fast download option or getting a newer device.

If you're downloading 50MB of data every other day, this equals 750MB total per month. If you are downloading more podcasts that are 50MB, then multiply 750 by however many there are.

T-Mobile does throttle data sometimes if you go over 5GB of data per month on the unlimited plan. If you have a lower tier data plan then you might want to check it out to make sure you are not going over that. I am only speaking from experience for T-Mobile US. Other countries have different data plans and pricing.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] token2k6:
CFB - thanks for the reply..yeah after I posted, I headed to Google and read about the 5gb cap, no way am I close to that from downloading these files. Whats weird too is that when I logged into my T-Mobile page, it showed 0mb data usage, but 6 pages of detailed usage..:D so I have no idea what that is about. Then I figured I'd run a mobile speedtest in Opera 9.7. I was pretty shocked to see speeds of 360kbps and then 508kbps. Made me think it could be RSS Hub..I have tried downloading podcasts from various sources, so I can't say 'yeah its Joystiqs server' At any rate, my billing cycle is up in 2 days, I'll try Weds and if speeds have not increased, I will definitely be on a mission to get this solved! Its really hard to listen to music this day and age when everything sounds the same :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
The best advice I can offer is to try flashing a new radio. The rilphone.dll in the Energy ROMs is for the 4.49.25.95 radio. If you already have this one, then flash the T-Mobile stock radio of 4.49.25.57. If that one doesn't work, then call up T-Mobile and tell them your data speeds are way slower than normal, and request for them to reset your connection to the network. It's pretty much like renewing your IP address on your PC.

I can't think of anything else beyond that other than flashing the stock ROM, performing a task29, and finally flashing the ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Quincux:
Feb19 ROMS changelog? It's faster than feb 12? Any improvement?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
I have only noticed 1 difference.

The contact page is fixed. The way to verify is Action->Contact or Start->Contacts

Other than that, I have not noticed any differnces, but I trust that he made new ones for a reason.

Could be that the Twitter Tab security fix is in this. I didn't verify whether the security fix is in this or not.

There could be some other fixes or performance tweaks.

[EDITTED]

Realized after PM from wmg316 that I had the cab for the contact fix in my XDA_UC folder.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] the show stopper:
i did but couldn't find anything use full.

actually you said this issue is not specific to this rom that's why i asked again after re-installing the latest version.

thanx for reply though :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Best version yet?

24 hours now with the Feb 19th ROM, and I gotta say this might be the "one"? :D

I generally only flash once every month or so, depending on whether or not there are updates useful to me, but now I might just be content!

Thanks to a previous post (made by gregb882) with a solution to the frustrating delay in orientation changes (due to bookmarked quicklinks in Cookie 2.0), and the amazing speed of this newest ROM, I think I'm finally enamored with my Touch Pro2!

I'm looking forward to enjoying this version now for quite some time hopefully, unless some compelling reason to change comes along in a future version.

Hoping that any newer releases are based on this fast, stable and feature rich base!

Many thanks to NRGZ28, JVH3 and other regular contributors to this thread!

PS... WinMoSpeed1.5 also kicks a$$!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] yefm:
So does the Feb 19 Rom include CHT 2.0? It is not in the filename as usual.

Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
Check where you are downloading from.

I downloaded: Energy.RHODIUM.28244.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Feb.19

It's in the name.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] yefm:
Duh - don't know how I used the wrong link. Not like it was the first time I dowloaded an NRG ROM. Must have been late and my brain was not working right. Anyway, downloading now. Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] lean04:
hi, i´m a total noob with my new TP2, i´ve just bought a T-mobile version, i want to flash with this rom, i want to know if it´s compatible with my device

in bootloader mode it says RHOD 210

thanks in advance

ps: i didn´t find any reference of this in the search engine, only that is for gsm phone (in the configuration tab my phone has the option auto, gsm, wcdma.. that confuses me, it´s supposed to be gsm)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
This thread has a FAQ at post #6

Here's your answer direct from the FAQ:

In otherwords.

Yes, this will work for your device. Make sure to HardSPL first.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] lean04:
thanks, i'm sorry i didn't read the faq properly, this thread is overwhelming with all it's pages
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Room7:
is it just me or does anyone else have a problem with the phone freezing after an alarm goes off without me pushing the off button (i use pocket alarm). Also It freezes when i talk to someone and i hold the phone to my ear (when the sensor turns the screen off for holding the phone by my ear). Its only started when I switched to this rom but it could also possibly be due to overclocking. Any thoughts?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
Alarms work perfect here.

Thinking your problem is eithrer Pocket Alarm or Overclocking,or a combination of the two.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jezi:
Clocks not in sync

Is it just me or is the analog clock behind by 2-3 mins from the flip clock when on dual clock display?:eek:

See photo below.

EDIT: It went back to normal after I overclocked it to my usual 768 Mhz using Wimospeed...hmmmm.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wmg316:
Mine is still red...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] derylmccarty:
Clear (white background) contacts

Mine is clear, but if for some reason yours is not, then use the attached.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] awalt:
Time zone screen on soft reset

I am on the EnergyRom 21916 Sense 2.5 Cookie 2.0 Feb 12 ROM. I don't think it has always done this, but I have noticed when I do a soft reset the Time Zone Screen comes up (a bunch of radio buttons where my time zone is already selected), and it seems sometimes a Done button appears at the bottom, sometimes I can hit the 'X' in the top right corner, and sometimes I have to hit the End key for my Home Page to come up. It will sit there forever if I don't do anything.

I did a search on this forum and only found 1 post where someone said they had this happen once, so I am thinking it's not proper behavior and I did something incorrect.

How do I get rid of this? Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
@ awalt: I have the same occurrence, frequently, after a soft reset. It doesn't appear to affect the loading of Sense, etc. so I thought it was a normal thing, a self-check or something.

I've also had this phenomena since I started flashing ROMs in January 2011.

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] awalt:
I found this on another site, non-energy non-AT&T TP2, but it did work for me - for some it does not-->

Go to Settings>Personal>Phone, and then Time Zones. Make sure that "Automatic change time zone and clock" is un-checked
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
Timezone prompt on reset

I get prompted for this after a soft reset. But, my timezone is not selected. I select my timezone. Then I press done. Sometimes done is not responsive, so I press my timezone again. Then press done. Repeat if needed.

But, it does not prompt me for this every soft reset. I haven't looked that hard at finding a pattern. But, I am thinking it normally happens if I have soft reset multiple times in a short amount of time.

To test this, I just soft reset 3 times using Slide to Shutdown, and slid to reset. First time, I was not prompted. Second time, I still was not prompted. Third time, I was prompted.

This hasn't been a big enough inconvenience for me to worry about. But, it would be nice to not ever get prompted.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
Timezone Prompt / setting automatic to unchecked

That's kind of funny. You uncheck automatic to not get prompted.

But then, do you need to remember to adjust it yourself when travelling. Or will it pick the correct local time.

Example, I live in Minnesota. (Central Time)

For work, I sometimes fly to Florida. (Eastern Time)

And sometime Washington (Pacific Standard Time)

I would rather deal with the timezone promt, than need to manually adjust this when I land.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] awalt:
That I don't know, I did some searching around and I did not find anyone that said that - but if one of the experts knows I would like to know too.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
I have used awalt's hint and so far, I have not been prompted for time zone choice. But, as JVH3 confirms, it's a come-and-go problem, only a pain when you've reset the phone and left it there rather than clicking "done" as the timezone demands.

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] WillardZ:
WarlockWeary Kill-TimeZone-PopUp2.cab works for me. Google, I no longer have the link.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
Camera Orientation Problem - only been a problem for 1 set of pics

I just noticed a problem last night, but have not been able to reproduce it since.

I took a few pictures with the camera. Some with the phone sideways and some with the phone vertical.

On the photos and Videos tab, I noticed that some of the pics that should be sideways, were not.

To be clear, I am not talking about Album. That has not adjsusted the orientation ever in Sense 2.5.

But on the Sense Tab, it does. And most pics are correct.

So, I connected my phone to my computer as a Disk Drive. I viewed the pics on my Computer with Preview. I corrected the orientation or the pics that had the wrong orientation. This also confirmeed that the problem was with the pics.

I have since taken several pics with the camera veritcal, horizontal, upside down and horizontal. All pics have correct orientation.

I have tried starting the camera with the photo tab in landscape mode, while running the game caver, while running the HTC caclulator. I can not reproduce the problem. But, I did expereince it once with the 28244 Feb 19th ROM.

Has anyone else experienced this? Any ideas on how to reproduce it?

For me, it was only a problem for some pics I took the first morning after flashing. I still can not reproduce it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rkub:
Here ya go.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
Re: Time Zone & Cab?

I don't get it. ON two Tilt 2 w/ NRG.Feb.19, I just pop-in the SIM & time & time zone are correctly and automatically set to GMT-6 Central America and that's it, time zone never pop up.

Anyway, it's a simple setting as posted by awalt if you want to disable auto time zone and clock so why a cab? :confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
It may be purely anecdotal, but when I went settings\personal\phone\time zone, and unticked automatic change timezone, after a couple of resets, Sense went beserk. it almost never completed loading itself, not even after I re-ticked the timezone setting. And following the FAQ, I do not have the Task Widge in Page 1 of Home Layout.

I finally imported my CHT settings again, and that seems to have fixed the problem (I do not use location services, so that may be part of the problem, I don't know).

But I can live with the timezone prompt--Sense not loading is another matter.

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
As was said before, the problem does not happen with every soft reset.

I can not always reproduce it, but given enough soft resets, I can.

Did some more testing while writing this:

It's possible that it is a timing thing. It could even be a network or tower specific thing.

I have just done 11 soft resets in a row at work.

The first 4 were fine. No prompt.

On the 5th one, I restarted before Sense had finished starting and finally was able to get prompted.

On the 6th, it also reproduced, but Sense had not yet loaded the pics for the quicklinks.

On the 7th, it also reproduced, I had let my phone sit just long enough for the pic quicklinks to load

On the 8th, I had give it a full minute and made a call. It did not reproduce.

On the 9th, I had let it sit for a couple minutes. It reproduced. But, the contact pics were still not laoded.

On the 10th, I had made sure all contact links were loaded. Then, I let it sit. It reproduced.

On the 11th, I first went to the weather tab and made sure that My Loaction had updated. It still rerpoduced.

It's not related to the contact pics loading. I just use that as my indicator that any sense load processes are complete.

I am at a loss about how to prevent, but without disabling the automatic timezone detection.

My guess is that it will again happen where it does not reproduce. I am thinking the network sends this, but not continuously. Maybe the timezone is vald for only a period of time. Then it needs to get it from the network. Just a theory. Or maybe AT&T towers only respond to a certain number of timezone request per phone in a specified period of time.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
I use the Feb 1 EnergyROM, and I gave the phone to my daughter who does the camera thing better. She could not replicate your problem, FWIW.

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Additional information on Time Zone pop up

I've discussed this problem a couple of times before in the past. We thought the problem seemed to stem from the towers your device connects to as well as the rilphone.dll and radio combination. We also collected some network traffic from two devices and found some more neat stuff. I'll share what I remember as this wasn't a discussion that was on XDA, and it happened back in October or so.

I started with a stock T-Mobile ROM and radio and was then able to reproduce this problem by using the stock ROM with the latest radio on my initial attempt. I then flashed directly to a custom ROM and had it happen again. After updating the radio a second time to the latest 4.49.25.95 radio, the pop up ceased. I then flashed the stock T-Mobile radio (4.49.25.57) and did not get the same pop up again.

The problem that we concluded was that the network wasn't supplying the time updates at the correct intervals. When you initially turn your device on, it establishes a connection with the network and normally updates the time OTA within about five minutes. The time information comes in as "11-02-22;+06S-15:30" or something similar. This means "year-month-day;GMT time zone-HH:mm." So, in that example, the time would have been, 22 February 2011, 3:30 pm, Central Standard Time. Your device is allowed, as far as I remember, four updates per day with two at 12 hour intervals. The time zone updates with the time information and will give you that pop up when the time zone cannot be automatically recovered from the network.

So, given this, I'm not exactly sure what part we had figured the radios played in this, but that was what I remembered about it. I do know that the pop up happens when the device is unable to ascertain the time zone from the network tower it is connected to.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
Re: Automatic Change Time Zone and Clock Popup

Is your boss paying you while your are testing for our benefit? ;)

Since I'm not using AT&T as my carrier, I think your guess is right & not really ROM related as I can't reproduce your popup thing.

Edit: reading the post above this one, it seems like a carrier, local towers, rilphone.dll and radio combination!

Maybe of interest to someone: Rhodium GSM Radio Collection
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
As for my timezone pop-up, I have all location services disabled and have forgone Weather and such ilk.

That said, when I flash a new ROM, the ROM brings me on-line, via 3G, and finds my location/weather/time. And then i disable it--but that process alone, one time only, still may tie into the theory. Though I don't know why the timezone sometimes pops up, sometimes not, given that all automatic services are always disabled.

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hefman:
I took a look at the cab file and it does not disable the auto time zone feature. It installs a file called SetSysTimeZoneImpl.exe and a couple of other registry entries. I'm not sure what exactly it does, but as far as I can tell it does not change the phone time zone setting.

Anyway, I agree with CFB and JHV on this. I think it's related to towers. When I reboot my phone at work (where I have poor 3g coverage), I often get that popup. At home, through my MicroCell, I almost never see this.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
Re: Automatic Change Time Zone and Clock Popup

An other reason NOT to use that cab and simply:

Which I leave alone as it works well for me w/ ROM.Feb.19.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] awalt:
Export settings

Does export settings that comes with EnergyROM work between builds 21916 and 28244? I upgraded my backup Tilt 2 (I have 2 of them) from stock to 28244 to check it out. I took the XDA_UC files under Export from the mSD card on my main phone/21916, copied them to the mSD card on my backup phone which had just been flashed to 28244 (with task29 and new radio), and did an Import All. It said all settings were imported, but at least the Home Page looks completely different and I don't think changed from the initial bootup. Oh I did try a Soft Reset too. Am I doing something wrong or is this not what export settings is meant for?

Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
Settings Exporter

What are you expecting to be restored that is not being restored?

Look at what it exports and imports:

Bluetooth. This will make it so you don't need to pair with your devices again.

Alarms - This way you don't need to set your alarms again

Facebook / Twitter - This makes it so you don't need to reauthenticate for the facebook tab. For twitter you will need to enter your password, but it does backup your user id.

Owner - This sets the info such as your name and phone number and email address

Regional - Looks like it backs up settings for users that switch it to a different language

Sense Tabs - Not sure if this works, but it should change the order of sense tabs if you have altered them. I don't alter mine.

Sounds / Rings - sets your ringtone, and other notification sounds

Sense Settings - How often things should update / selected cities on the weather tab.

Power - settings for backlight turning off and other things.

Device keys - Information about your keyboard layout and language of your keyboard. Initial guess was way wrong on this.

There is nothing specific to a build number.

And there aren't any major visual things backed up and restored.

You would need to use the CHTEditor to backup and restore cookie settings for that.

Note: To find out what any piece does, just look inside XDA_UC\Exporter.

Rename all files. Add .txt to the end.

Then you can read what is in each files.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mrtarrouk:
Can I install this CAB on 6.5.x ?

Can I install this CAB on 6.5.x ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mrtarrouk:
Arabic Support Needed

Thanks for the great efforts you did and still doing in developing this great ROM. However, there are many Arabic support CABs over the internet but they are not working 100% fine; sometimes things become slow. So it will be very appreciated from all Arabs if you embed the Arabic Support in this ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] awalt:
Ahh thanks you answered my question, I thought the settings CHTEditor exported were saved. I can use that and go back and forth. Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] uddikathusitha:
hey...why did you remove reference updates, from the list,please try do it upto date.thank
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
@ Joe Bleau. This is great stuff, as always . Your clear instructions and your very helpful specs import got me up and running very quickly.

Since I overclock occasionally, I've also set up a cpu frequency in BattConfig/Content. It works, but because it's 6-characters long instead of 5 or less characters in the other read-outs, it's crammed in the display. Any handle to jiggle to make all the characters of cpu frequency show up nicely?

EDIT: got it--go battconfig/location/W (for width of numeric display)

I run your pure_black background and even though I've got alot of stuff going on within my homepages, your work has uncluttered it considerably.

All best,

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] giota56:
First of all ... many thanks for your great job!!!!

I'm enyojing flashing Energy from January 2011 ... very young! It is a great satisfaction giving new life to my TP2!

Rom is complete, fast, reliable and looks very nice.

But please ... do not forget to update also the Italian version ... sometimes!

Once again... thank you!

Giovanni
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hefman:
I see where you are coming from and I understand that changing the phone setting works fine as a workaround. It has also been mentioned that you lose the auto time zone functionality when you change the phone setting. I'm pretty sure the auto time zone feature still works with this cab -- it just ignores the popup when the information cannot be received from the towers immediately after a reboot.

I think mentioning the cab as one option is perfectly valid. They seem to be two different approaches. I could be wrong though... :p