yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Yorkshiretaff:
Sense comparison...

Hi,

First an apology if I'm covering previous info. Searching XDA on my TP2 not working but read the last umpteen pages. I've been kicked off my PC by homeworking kids :(

Having played with a Desire HD, I was wondering how close the Nov 12th Energy 21916 2019 Sense is to the version used on the Desire HD? It's interaction with Twitter & Facebook etc is great and the Peep was very stable.

I'm not impressed with losing HTC Sense on WP7, but not ready to jump ship to Android. And the Desire Z keyboard isn't a patch on the TP2.

Thanks very much...

YT
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] leckig:
I deleted all text messages and I dont even have email set up - no emails. voice mail is empty.

the only thing that could potentially have unread item are the reminders, but they show empty too.

I changed led notification setting from none to 5 infinite no none to 5 minutes, it does not help. That stupid green LED has been flashing for 3 days now. I am sitting in the corner of my room in fetal position, crying..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gregb882:
That happened to me once several months back and this helped.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Isn't the Desire HD an Android device? It's nothing like "the Nov 12th Energy 21916 2019 Sense." This is two completely different operating systems. If you are referring to Sense in general, then you should really be asking this in the Desire forums. Sense on Android is nothing like the interface on Windows Mobile. Android has a more user friendly interface by nature than WM.

Put the LED notification setting to "None" and then have someone send you a message. Read or get rid of the message and see if that works.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bipinsen:
Have you just tried rebooting? This happens to me a few times a week. A simple reboot, and no more blinking light.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Yorkshiretaff:
Hmmmm... not quite sure how to reply to this answer.

Seeing as the title of this forum includes the words 'Sense 2019' and the question is about the functionality of the Nov 12th Energy 21916 2019 Sense COMPARED to the Desire HD HTC Sense (made by the same company as the 'Sense' in this forums title), and, as a long time user of Energy ROMs, I feel I HAVE asked the question in the CORRECT forum. My signature gives full details of my device setup... as required by the forum.

For the uninformed, Sense is an interface that sits ON TOP of the Operating System of a phone and is not PART of the Operating System... hence you can switch it off if you wish. If HTC wanted too, they could port the interface to ANY phone Operating System.

You will notice I am being calm and trying to clarify for the confused exactly what my query is about. At no time did I ask for a comparison to the Android interface... ONLY the HTC Sense interfaces... which look and act identically on the WinMo devices and the Desire HD... and in case you missed it... made by the same company.

So if I may ask again, politely and with the word 'please'; does anyone know if the latest HTC Sense 2019 (on the Nov 12th Energy 21916 ROM) has similar functionality to the Desire HD's HTC Sense interface (not Android)?

Thank you in advance for any 'helpful' replies.

YT
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] asisislam:
Hi, I have the same problem. Would you please show me how to change the settings. Thanks in advance
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] leckig:
flashing led notification light - update

problem gone. I received text message from someone and 5 minutes later the LED finally stop blinking.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
I still feel you're asking this in the wrong place. This thread is about the Energy ROM for the Rhodium. It has nothing to do with Android devices. Sense is different on Android than it is on WM. Unless HTC puts different versions of it on different devices, then my answer to you stands. The only HTC Android devices I've played with that had Sense were not the same as WM. They don't use the tabbed interface, favoring widgets instead. There is no need for a full skin of Android because it is natively finger-friendly whereas WM is not.

If you need more of an explanation than this, it would be better to ask in the Desire forum. I'm sure someone there could look at their device info and tell you which version of Sense they are running. I don't even know if they use the same build numbers for Android.

I said originally that you were posting in the wrong place because you aren't looking for information on WM or even the Energy ROM. You were looking for information about the Android version of Sense on the Desire HD. Seeing as most of us here own Rhodiums of some sort, I think it would garner a faster reply with the answer you need if you ask a Desire HD owner instead of Touch Pro2 owners. I wasn't trying to be rude to you, however.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Yorkshiretaff:
Thanks Bob. I understand your idea now... its hard reading emotion into text which is probably whats happened here.

I'm a rhodium owner but am aware that many users in this forum have multiple devices, so was hoping one might be able to check.

Decided to go with the obvious answer though... flash it and try myself. I can always revert if i don't like it. The Sept 29th 21916 is running perfectly for me, so was reticent to upset my phone.

Cheers...

YT
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] derrickadams:
Awesomesauce

I updated to the 28244 build and it is definetly a nice boost from the 21xxx builds. So far the battery life has been outstanding, I keep hovering around 58-65MB free memory (depending on what I have open and closed) and the boot time has improved for me as well.

I did attempt to install cooke 2.0.0.0 final over top of the cooked in version however that changed enough things that I decided to revert and will wait for the cooked in version.

Well Done NRGZ and Team, keep up the great work.

Donation will be incoming with my next paycheck.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] csyrell:
Manila Internet Thumbnails

Had to flash to a warranty phone and I can't get my internet thumbnails to stay the same. I've been able to save my links correctly, and I'm able to replace the .png image with my own saved .png's, but then when I revisit the page, it is creating a new image and file name in Windows\Thumbnails.

In searching, I can find recommended registry settings such as HKLM\Software\HTC\VisualBookmark\UpdateOnce = 0, and HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\InternetPush\EnablePushInternet = 0. However even after a soft re-boot, it is still creating a new .png file for my internet favs, thus replacing the image on my internet tab.

Any suggestions?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Barneyabz:
Lock Screen - phone speaker icon

First off I have spent the last hour searching so if this has been answered previously apologies.

Realised today when I was driving and got a call that when my phone is locked (using standard windows lock screen) and a call comes in I can answer the phone without unlocking but once I have answered the four icons normally found just above the two soft button "Key Pad" and "End call" are all missing. One of those is the one for speaker phone. Basically was unable to put on speaker phone(had to cut person off!).

Tried an offical HTC firmware and it also had the same problem. Anyone know of a registry key or something that can be adjusted or a workaround?

Cheers

Barney
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bipinsen:
Nov 13 ROMs?

Does anyone know if there are ROMs coming out today with the final CHT 2.0? I see the Nov 12 ROM calling out my name. But I don't know if I should hold out.. :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] robb78:
hello guys,

what are the differences between the version released on 11/11/10 and 12/11/10?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] NRGZ28:
Nov 11 ROMs had email/sms composing issues. Nov 12 have fixed that.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] NRGZ28:
That "anyone" would be me. And yes.. they are. I just need time to cook it in and adjust to all the "final" changes to work well with my ROM :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] NRGZ28:
HTC Sense on WM and Sense on Android are quite different animals. Sense on OUR WM devices is an executable and a whole bunch of "manila" files comprised of XML, LUA, MODE9 and QTC files. These files work in unison to display the HTC interface as one big application.

Sense on Android is a series of separate widgets that display on the Android homescreen. They're independent of each other, for the most part.

The only similarites are graphics, functionality and features are somewhat different.

So to answer your question... HTC Sense on a WM device is quite different than Sense on the Desire. Yes, it looks the same, but a lot of features and screens will be different.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rkub:
SWEET!!! Soo excited!!!lol Sucks I have a wedding to go to tonight and won't be back til tomorrow... Hopefully it'll be waiting for me when I get back...lol :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bipinsen:
Thanks chef! You can ignore my tweet with the same question! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Quincux:
BUg in 28244 GTX.Nov.12

The lastest ROM is faster than previous, but in GTX, i found that when i pick up some calls, in the screen appears a lot of "artifacs" or garbage.

Other bug in GTX is that the phone keypad dissapears some times, and in his place has a blank
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tiaskew:
Core Theme Customize

hey NRGZ28 or anyone, is there any way you could add "Core Theme Customize" or something like that. like the CORE CELL EVO&PRO, i tried that rom, but it freeze and stop alot, no matter what im doing on the phone. but the customize part is pretty cool
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rkub:
Just fyi, new roms almost all uploaded!! So happy I didn't have to wait til 2mrw to flash...lol Thanks NRGZ for gettin that out soo fast!!!!

Here's a little donation for ya.

Confirmation number: 67279763RA965953G
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] derrickadams:
Great work NRGZ and the Team.

Downloading the Nov13th version of 28244 Energy right now.

Here is a donation for all your hardwork. Confirmation #6B013394G8638635W

The wife didnt clean my account out while shopping today so I was able to send the donation a week early :)

OH, and I would love to add one of the "Energy Addicts" graphics to my signature but I was not sure how to go about that besides snatchin the link to the graphic, etc etc.

Didnt want to do it if it was only meant for certain people and such.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Look in post #6 for the Add-on site. You'll find a bunch of Energy ROM banners for your sig in there. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] derrickadams:
Thank you much. That is down right sexy there.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bipinsen:
Nov 13 ROM misc indicators

Installed the Nov 13 28244 Dinik ROM. Am I going blind, or is there an entire section of addons missing in the Quick Links selection. I used to have an icon for Free Memory, and I can't find it anywhere. Any comments from anyone?

Edit: I just found that the state links are now separate. Hmm...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] J-Hop2o6:
this is very informative on the WM side of Sense.. but for Android, i call the Sense version what the Android version is, since HTC has to re-work their Sense since Sense [LOL!] is CORE DEEP in Android.. so if your Android phone is 2.2, it'll be Sense 2.2 .. but i've always wanted to see their Android Sense BUILD numbers, which i've never found/seen.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Yorkshiretaff:
Thanks very much Chef. Just what I wanted to know... and then some :p

I've just installed the latest Energy Standard 21916 Sept 12th and manually added the Cookie 2.0 final (+ extras). Not sure I'm a fan of Cooke yet, but your ROM is flying. :)

Thanks again for all the hard work.

YT
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bipinsen:
Aaargh

Ok seriously... After all these weeks waiting for a final release of CHT 2, why do I still get this crap?!! I'm heading over to the Cookie page to complain. Does anyone here have any ideas on how this can be fixed?

ps. Obviously the gray icons had pictures in them, which disappeared through a reboot.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] token2k6:
I don't know man, this has been happening to me the better part of the last three months across so many roms. is it really CHT? or something else..? Once I manually add them back in, it rarely happens again (don't know for how long it stays good since I flash whats new like twice a week..(don't pay attn to my sig ;)))
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
You are totally right: I suggest you ask Cookie to refund the money you paid for the software.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] billybag:
Same. Been getting it for a while.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bipinsen:
Your remark was just as unkind as my original post. Does that even out?

Ok.. for the rest. Finally some good answers on this. Here's a bunch of posts from the Cookie thread on why this happens.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] billybag:
28244 Touch Of Glass with Cookie 2.0

QMenu doesn't seem to work. Occasionally it will say "Start" in the taskbar, but that is all and then that disappears. Clicking the Windows Logo does not bring up the menu at all.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wmg316:
DST - Time One Hour Off

Since the DST time change, every time I flashed a new ROM and ran my XDA_UC, upon a soft reset, my time was moving back one hour from the correct current time.

The cause was an old "Alarms.reg" file that I had saved through the settings exporter a few months back that I put in my XDA_UC root so that my alarms would be set after XDA_UC ran. The specific section of the settings export for the Alarms which caused the problem was this:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Clock]
"SoundAlarmAlways"=dword:00000001
"AppInfo"=hex:01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,14,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,00,00,\
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
[I][B]"HomeDST"=dword:00000001[/B][/I]
"AutoDST"=dword:00000001
"Home"=dword:000000e8
"NetworkTimeNotifyUser"=dword:00000001
"NetworkTimeSync"=dword:00000001

SPECIFICALLY the "HomeDST"=dword:00000001 entry; this was what was causing my clock to be set back one hour in error. From a clean ROM install without running XDA_UC, this setting was set to dword:00000000...and I did not have the problem until I ran my XDA_UC.

The Alarms.reg from the settings exporter has 4 sections: the aforementioned settings, and settings for:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Clock\0]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Clock\1]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Clock\2]

These last 3 sections (omitted the entries to save space in this post) are the only thing really needed to restore my alarms...so I stripped out the [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Clock] section with the DST settings...and all works fine now after XDA_UC runs and after a soft reset.

There have been multiple posts about users having problems with the wrong time showing after the DST time change. If you are restoring an old settings export for alarms, this might be the cause...and you might give what I did to fix my problem a try!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dosadanuser:
Thank you soo much for building this ROM, I have installed it on HTC Touch Pro Raph and it works perfectly for now!!! May I mention that I have tried many others and they all had too much bugs that were unpredictable for business phone :(

I certanly hope it will not develop some sort of bug in the near future :(

One thing only I had to twak is correct (add) registry entries for GPS, aGPS so I could finally use it with fast lock, otherwise it will not lock no mather how long it's on. Never th less it is much much better than factory ROM and with much unlocking potential for my device :)

Thanks again and keep up the good work!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Suleeto:
I have two simple questions.

1. How do I get the virtual keyboard to automatically open up when physical keyboard is not opern and I click in a text field?

2. How do I restore the native (original) WM qwerty virtual keyboard? I like gesture writing and dislike the HTC keyboard.

Otherwise, my impressions of this ROM are that it is fast, better laid out than the shipped original, and a hell of a lot cleaner looking.

If I get the keyboard situation straightened out I will be very happy, and I suspect that both my questions are resolvable (although searching for the past half hour or so has not yielded results, sadly).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] SpunkyIceke:
Is there any real difference(notifyable) between 12th november or 13th november release of cookie 2.0 2.5 sense ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] derrickadams:
The major difference between the two is that the Nov 13th release, Cookie 2.0 is out of beta. There area few settings added in here and there, and also a few last minute bug fixes on Cookies side.

I'm running whats listed below in my sig, and everything is working great.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] billybag:
Maybe i am the only one but the 28244 Touch Of Glass with Cookie 2.0 is buggy as hell. the facebook tab and favorite contacts are almost unworkable. is anyone else having this problem?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] fcasoli:
21864 dated Nov 12

I have strong problem in picture tab, if I take some pictures, the system freeze, if I add a picture from email, the screen with the list locks and I must reset the device.

I remember the 21863 dated Oct 25 most stable, maybe Sense 2018 better fot this situation?

I try the last proposal this evening....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] smartidoos:
energie

Hello tp2 fellows ,i have an issu ,each time mine clock go een our further then the real time , some 3a4 times a day ,das anyone have a solution for this ,

I have the right time zone

thx
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] anglico:
@smartidoos -> solution already posted several times here no?

turn automatic timezone/time updates off

also don't use "use carrier time" (in my case it helps)

press Windows key - settings - personal - phone - time zone tab - deselect the "Automatic change time zone and clock" setting

then change the clock manually back to the correct setting

I currently use Energy.RHODIUM.28244.Sense2.5.Cookie.sencity.Nov.12, first time I use sencity, works like a charm so far
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] danny1909:
FM Radio not working in dutch Roms?

Hello,

Is it correct that the FM Radio is NOT working on te dutch ROMS?

Or should I correct something?

Tnx!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] fcasoli:
28244 titanium

this rom locks the device if you scroll the home.

12th Nov dated.

and I noted in this version there are a lot of apps, I would like a Titanium equal to Reference without Sense...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] PUTALE:
I notice an issue with the cookie 2.0 and task. Sometimes the Task will not work when I place it as an widget on the home screen. When I tap it, it won't bring up the program and sometimes will freeze. This has happened to me with almost every single rom that I tried with cookie 2.0.

with older cookie, I did not have such issue.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] fcasoli:
Hi

can I have 21684 8th Nov Titanium?

thanks a lot :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigBadger:
Before reporting "bugs" I recommend disabling XDA_UC and NRG's auto import and then a hard reset. THEN test. I think a lot of these reports have to with restored settings. See post #6, section 4.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] J_M_H:
I"m wondering if we've reached the end of a string... The Nov 13 ROM is the best ever! It's hard to see how it can be improved (but I know NRGZ28 will try). Great job!

Keep in mind that if you have problem with a new ROM, it may not be the ROM. Manila and the OS change, which may have some odd effects on other software. I had a problem with the new ROM hanging up on reboot. After a few days of research, this is what I found:

1) Weather City Editor was one cause of problem. I believe that the Manila file it uses has changed, and the program doesn't write it correctly.

2) Same with Backup Favorite People, it seems to cause a hangup.

3) I had to remove ALL of the CoOkie backups, including any coOkie items in registry files I back up. I then started fresh with the final coOkie release and rebuilt.

After clearing up the three above problems, everything works great. As you can see, none of these are ROM related. This stuff is very complex with lots of subtlety.

The moral is: Do some research before blaming the ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Muhownage:
Hi,

i just Flashed todays Energy.RHODIUM.28244.Sense2.5.GER.Cookie.2.0.Nov.13.7z rom but i have a problem. even without importing any backups it looks like some translations from cookies home tab are missing or something:

Anyone has an idea how i can fix it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Grouphome1:
you need to install the extra addon located in CHT topic
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kcchalk:
Text "Free RAM" on Home screen

I just flashed the 13 Nov build of 28244 and I have the text "Free RAM" on the upper left corner of the Home Tab. I have searched and searched and can't figure out how to get rid of it, or why its there. Can anyone help?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JackMetal:
Some free way to have email check only between certain times or maybe just disable the email alert during certain times?

I've been searching for this for a while but haven't come up with a good solution yet, so I thought some of the guru's here might have an idea on how I can do it? When I was on my palm phone, I could do this, but I haven't seen how to do it on windows mobile yet. For example: If I don't want email to be checked at night or maybe it's still checked but the alert doesn't sound or something?

I've seen a couple solutions that I think might work, like a commercial software called "Mail Notification" but I thought there might be some free way to do this.

Thanks in advance for your help!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Muhownage:
installing CHT_v2.0.0_LanguagePack_R2.cab fixed the problem. thx

@ NRGZ28:

Maybe you could cook the Language Pack in. but anyway thanks for your rom!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vrsko:
hopefully your issue is as easy to remedy as this: Enter the homescreen edit mode and remove the freefloating "free ram" widget which is obviously misplaced + is not being rendered properly (only the text is showing)...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] derrickadams:
I had this issue when I flashed the Nov 12 ROM and installed Cookies 2.0.0 final over top of it.

When I flashed the Nov 13th ROM the FreeRAM link is not an option until you install the State Addon pack from Cookies Thread.

I would double check what you are flashing and make sure your not doing an autoinstall of the Nov12th version from your storage card or flashing the wrong ROM or something else.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kcchalk:
This is the version that I flashed - Energy.RHODIUM.28244.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.DinikGlass.Nov.13

I did not have the Free Ram widget in my saved CHT 2.0 settings.