yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
No, no tap-dancing Jesus. You're question has been answered before, but it's actually kind of tough to find a decent explanation without knowing exactly what to search for.

Different SYS builds do not directly relate to the version of Windows Mobile (6.5 or 6.5.x). In this case, 216xx (6.5.3) and 219xx (6.5) is what we are using.

Other than that, there really isn't a "less stable" version anymore. That post on the first page was made a long time ago when that was actually true. NRG normally only updates the SYS numbers on that post. He is cooking ROMs for several different devices in just as many flavors in each one. I'm actually surprised that he finds the time to update that little thing at all.

I've actually found that the 6.5.3 builds have been more stable than the the 6.5 ones. I normally fool around with them for a while and pick three or so mess with on "Flash Day." (that's kind of a bad name :p) I generally stick with GTX for day-today use, but playing with different ones gives a bit of insight to help out here.

You should do the same yourself. Pick one ROM and play with it for a few days, then do the same with another one until you find one that you just can't get away from. That's how I originally fell in love with GTX. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Somehow his past tweets seem to have been cleared out. If I go there now, there are a few new tweets, but none of the older stuff.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] monomer888:
Yes, it's odd because the past 'records' of his tweets still exist. (For example, the link I posted earlier about NRGZ's tweet still exists.)

Update

It's apparently a known Twitter issue. See my post below for details.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steve4bass:
Where can I download a cab of the Energy version of TCPMP? I prefer the reference ROM, but it doesn't come with TCPMP, and the only version of TCPMP I can find a separate cab for is 0.72RC1, which is nowhere near as good as the version included in the Energy ROMs.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pietsukkel:
The version in the EnergyROMs is in fact 0.72RC1.

http://www.google.nl/#q=tcpmp
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] blutruck:
You need to download and install this cab to get HSPL to work on a Tilt 2.:cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gregb882:
I understand that there are waaay too many posts here for even you to be able to keep up with (I know you to be a very active, talented and beneficial member of the forum), but the issue I was trying to report wasn't even close to the suggestion that anomalye was providing to try to help me out; perhaps my observational skills need work.

But I don't have the ability to be as active as some of you which causes substantial lags between my posts (observations) which can exacerbate the confusion. So I’ll go back to the background and leave the contributions to those of you who are more active. Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bennyb0y:
Have searched and not found. Please can you tell me where you saw this?

Would like to have this feature back. It's not in 29.Sep.

Thanks in advance.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
There are settings about the data connection in CHT Scheduler. Go into that, then "Day(SaveMyDay)", then "Data Connection", and turn off the "Change Data Settings" slider.

I believe that in the new version of CHTS, the default is that it doesn't mess with any settings, unless you specifically tell it to (though I've not tried that out yet myself).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bipinsen:
What are you talking about, greg? I looked back at some of your last few posts, and I found nothing that even remotely looks like the crazy stuff cajun's going off on. You've made some good observations, inferences, and even a few tips here and there. Lurking is fine, but I think you have the potential to be much more helpful. So this is a friendly "consider staying" invitation. :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] martian07:
Thanks cjun, I know it was intended for piaqt but helped me. Just dnl & trying. I did not like chrome when it goes for auto update etc. I had to block lot of things with firewall because I did not spend time configuring it. Also dnld the potable version.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] martian07:
TCPMP

Your post already answered, just wanted to add, if you copy the TCPMP folder from you program files to your SD card or install it on SD, you can run it without ever installing again. Just create a shortcut to the executable. You can create associations any time.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] persey4ik:
Pls help me friends. How can i turn off the "Time Zones" every startup?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
The problem is that some issues (like lockscreens) are a moving target; it works with some ROMs, then doesn't work on a newer or older ROM. These changes are not due to errors in the NRG ROM, but rather that the chef is staying with the "cutting edge" of the OS, and including lots of code from other people. CHT 2.0 is a prime example.

What I am saying is that sometimes the solution listed in an individual post does not fix the issue - because that post was for a particular ROM. Unfortunately, the signature block here on XDA-developers changes for all posts when you update it. So one cannot see what version was being used when the "fix" was described. I think I'm going to change my future posts such that I include my current ROM in the post, so people can see what version I was using at the time. I think we should all do this, so that those searches make sense.

My suggestion, if one is going to flash new ROMs, is that the person needs to keep up with the thread. I do this, and it takes only a few minutes per day.

For NOOBs, search first, and read at least the last 100 posts. I know it takes time, but if this is your first flash (or your first re-flash of NRG in a long time), then you need to get up to speed on what the newer ROM is all about, and what problems you may encounter - that already have a solution.

ROM as of this post:

____________________________

T-Mobile TP 2 / NRG ROM 21680

CHT / 29 Sep 10 / PagePool = 12 Mb

Overclock 710 Mhz
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] buffalosolja42:
Good point another solution would be for us in subject line either in () or " " include the version of the ROM in solutions that way we can find them easier. The signature issue does give some people confusion, basically I keep all the cabs I download on my local computers home/work and backup my sd cards periodically by date (I know obsessive but it helps me).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] martian07:
ROM Ver

+1. I think that's a good idea however I will say to keep it to minimum, just enough required for the solution (ROM 2XXXX, CHT/GTX etc, Date). Adding too much info clutter it and specially when you are on a phone needs too much scrolling. As you said I also keep all the cabs, usually the ROM specific one in same folder. and always have at least one older ROM that worked for me on my SD. If your UC is done right, you can get going in 10-15 min.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] WillardZ:
Get a more up-to-date ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
Do a search, there have been solutions posted. Personally I don't use those solutions; I prefer to just select the time zone if the screen comes up; it does not always appear.

Current ROM: 21680 CHT
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wmg316:
Time Zone Update

Not a good answer...and not even close to a correct answer!

This is happening on the latest ROM from NRG from multiple people.

'cajunflavoredbob' has posted a possible solution

here

. If you try it, please post back results.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hefman:
You make good points.

It seems like it should be common sense to 1) read the first few "official" posts in a thread (usually clearly marked as such), 2) read the last few days worth of posts in an active thread, and 3) search the thread, if 1 and 2 don't work. People who do this usually get quicker answers than those who claim they "don't have time" to read or search.

I think announcements like this are somewhat useful, but the irony is that if someone is predisposed NOT to read through the past few day's posts, then they'll never see the suggestion. That is why I usually try to respond directly to their post with some "tough love" to get them thinking that way. I do get annoyed when the question was just answered a few posts earlier though.

The forum rules used to be easy to find in the "Announcements" thread when it was titled "Forum Rules -- Please Read." They are still in there, but it's no longer obvious to new users where to look. I would also like to see suggestions in there for how to find answers without posting. Personally, I would like to see that info in the forum rules and also have them linked in the menu bar at the top of the forum. Not my decision though. And, again, the irony is that the ones who probably need to read them the most will simply choose not to...

Edit: Hey! My 1000th post... WOOT!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] piaqt:
Tried it. So far, so good. BUT: You must follow original posters instructions, else it won't install..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] monomer888:
Heaven forbid, surely you're not equating the inability to do a search with an inability to follow instructions?? :eek: :D

Joking aside, the mystery of NRGZ's "missing" tweets might be a Twitter issue:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] piaqt:
"England and America: Two countries separated by a common language." (Sigh :rolleyes:) I didn't read them the first time I tried this, and it wouldn't install. At the time, I needed duct tape to keep my eyes open.

Having tried this fix, I noticed that the weather tab could not find my location. Uninstalled it, and ba-da-bing! It found me.

On my PC, I've had no problems getting NRGZ's, or any other, tweets.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] monomer888:
Oh I wasn't having a dig at you, piaqt. I was just wondering if your emphasis to people 'out there' to follow instructions was a subtle suggestion to follow the forum rules to search. ;)

And yes I didn't make it clear about the second bit. That was to everyone else who was wondering about where NRGZ's older tweets have disappeared off to! That was quite a mystery to a few of us! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
This just turned up on the front page. I think I'm going to add it to my sig.

[SCRIPT] Energy XDA_UC Configure Tools (EXCT) V0.4.0 Beta
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
I think it is inherent in that fix that you are turning off location services. I believe I saw some words to that effect. It is one of the reasons I just live with the problem.

ROM AS OF THIS POST: NRG ROM 21680 CHT 2.0
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] piaqt:
Great minds think alike.

Moral of the story: Don't sleep-search! :o
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
"Classic" ROMs soon

NRGZ28

Going to be cooking Cookie Classic (1.8.5) ROMs this time as well, for the people that feel 2.0 is a battery drainer (myself included.. lol) 19 minutes ago via Digsby
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] outerdepth:
What is Going on Here?

Someone that's a mod here needs to sit down and spend time cleaning up this and other threads.

I bet over an entire 3rd of this thread is people telling others to search or belittling someone about something, sheesh.

I'm trying to find information people, not sift through dozens and dozens of posts about how somebody is stupid or blind or didn't search thoroughly. I have been a member here for years and I have to say this used to not be such a problem. Mods got involved and said enough is enough or you got banned.

So, please, for everyone's sake here. Stop with the drivel and just stay on subject. If someone asks a silly question answer it or don't, stop the hate on this site or you're gonna lose all the worthwhile people here that develop and teach about phone software.

*and yes I am slightly contributing to this currently by making my remark, but I hoped that some mod would read this and get involved.:cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
Concur. The last version was lasting 2+ days before swapping batteries. CHT 2.0 is going almost exactly 1 day before I have to change.

ROM as of this post: NRG ROM 21680 CHT 2.0
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Xandegar:
actually I haven't noticed any difference - I must be special...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bennyb0y:
Thank you steviewevie,

I'll have a play, and see what happens.

CHT 2.0 Full release to come in about a week or so I believe.

:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bennyb0y:
Really!!!??? Are you guys using 3G/HSDPA and Bluetooth on all the time maybe?

I've gone 2 days with CHT 2.0 on the Sep.29 WWE ROM.

Mind you I set the phone to use GPRS, and brightness on battery set to 40%.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] monomer888:
The question of SYS builds - some notes

Thanks for the really informative post about the murky world of SYS builds and the nomenclature that Microsoft seems to be confusing us with!

Just to follow on from your discussion, it's interesting in the quote you posted from Da_G about the 219xx branch:

So are the 219xx builds from a "feature test branch"?

Although you didn't imply this, some people reading Da_G's quote may think the 219xx branch is a 'feature test branch'. I did a bit of digging around and it seems that there are two 219xx branches. The first which Da_G refers to, and the second which is one that spilled over from the 218xx branch when they ran out of numbers. See below:

So if the above is correct, the current 219xx build that NRGZ uses is just the latest COM2 (aka WM 6.5 - start menu at the top) build.

What about the 216xx branch?

I couldn't really find much about the 216xx branch apart from the fact that it's HTC-related and features the newer WM 6.5.x (i.e. start menu at the bottom). Chefs who use it seem to remark that it's fast. I think those of us that have flashed NRGZ's 21680 build can agree with that! :) I've quoted a selection of posts from other people to give an idea of what people's experiences have been of it:

What does it mean?

It's a bit of a change in our understanding as Energy ROM end-users of what these numbers refer to. I've seen a few posts where this has certainly caused some confusion. When NRGZ first used the 216xx I didn't really pay attention to what I was downloading and ended up flashing the wrong version! Oops! :o

So we have to stop thinking in terms of 21xxx as the COM2 branch. As you quite clearly say in your post, at the moment it's a choice between 219xx and 216xx branches. Of course, as always NRGZ will decide which builds he's going to use in future ROMs so we shall wait and see! (Hopefully not too long either!) :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gamikzone:
hello, ive been using energy rom for over a year now, i wanted to know if anyone knows like a way to clear the sent messages without the fone freezing, the problem is when there is around 5000 messages in the sent inbox it get slow, does anybody know a way to clean it up without hard reset or flash?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bipinsen:
Yes and yes. 3G connection always used, and 100% brightness. End of the day, the battery is down to about 25-30%. Previously it used to be around 45%.

How about not saving sent messages? The option is there.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gamikzone:
lol thankss man, i never seen that/ or forgot about it
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigWopHH:
I'm with you. I find battery life to be very good with 21680 / CHT 2.0. I do not have CHT Scheduler installed though---wonder if that could be sucking up some battery.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] I burn water:
new builds up

Cookie and standard look like they are uploaded.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Commdr64:
I also haven't noticed any difference in battery life. Just an observation, I haven't really compared in any measurable way. If there is a difference, it isn't much of one.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] soosoolhastam:
Decompressing oct 7 roms

Anybody out there having issues decompressing the latest rom?! I can't decompress any of them. 7zip comes up with errors. : (
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] redpoint73:
This is a known issue. Are you using the latest version of 7zip?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] I burn water:
have you downloaded the latest version. I think I remember reading downloading the beta version of 7zip works.. Search the thread I know it has been posted here a few days ago.

Also just tested with winrar x64 3.93 and it works too.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] J-Hop2o6:
use WinRar.. it unzips alot of archives (.zip .rar .7z etc.)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Quincux:
The new 10/07 standard ROM is amazing!, Sense Tab and "classic" start menu given me 110mb fo RAM, with default pagepool (22mb), and the speed... really impresive. Now i will test stability, but looks great.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Wow, that's a lot more info than I had on this. I knew about the 219xx branch fiasco, but figured it was a bit over the top for my reply. I don't really know anything more about the 216xx branch than what others have posted. I have been using 21916 in my personal ROMs for some time now while I get used to the cooking process. It is quite a stable version of the build. I think we could simply refer to them as COM2 (6.5) and COM3 (6.5.3). I don't think NRG is going back to 23xxx for a while now with this quick version here.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] soosoolhastam:
Old Slider Back!

Can any of you guys help me revert the slider button back to transparent. The new oct 7 rom has a glossy slider. I want to revert back to what is in the picture i uploaded.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] buffalosolja42:
yeah I am struggling uzipping as well

tried winrar, 7zip, winzip, but after refreshing my 7zip the beta does work (not a fan of beta in some cases but for NRGz no problem)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Quincux:
I feel 21680 Standard 10/07 more responsive and faster than Cookie, also Standard give me +10 mb RAM than Cookie in same configs. I keep it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] NRGZ28:
That mod could be me, I suppose ? It could be a little "conflict of interest" modding my own threads, but I don't think it'll be such a big deal :) We're here to relax and have fun with our phones... :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] piaqt:
Been reading a lot of these. I've not had any problems unzipping, and I'm also running 64-bit Windows 7 ultimate.

A lot of the time, such glitches are related to registry conflicts or errors. Try deleting the 7zs filetype from the registry, reboot, and associate with WinRAR.

I've dealt successfully with similar problems this way. Hope this helps.

And this is what the 21680 build is. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Doo Doo:
NRGZ28 What Is New In the Classic Roms?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hanlincn:
what's new of Oct 7 ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Yorkshiretaff:
Start Menu options...

Hi,

After eventually opening the archive (updated to latest WinRAR... see, I did search :D) I'm a little confused on the Menu options.

NRGz28 twitter feed asked about using the classic start menu from earlier roms (great idea!) but it's not present as an option in the Oct 7th Standard ROM. The switching app is great, but does anyone know if the classic menu will be making an appearance?

Cheers...

YT
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Unless I'm misunderstanding, it looks like NRG is going to have to remove Swype from the ROMs, based on this article from the XDA portal - http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/xda-notice-swype/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] godwinvandamme:
thanks for your superb roms... i just have one problem.. i cant change keyboard layout to italian... have tried changing system locale and using advanced config to change layout to italian but it does not do anything....

would really love if you could help me on this..dont want to go back to stock italian rom..cause loving your roms..problem is that i use the keyboard a lot....

thanks in advance.. and if its not asking too much...anyone know where i can find dictionary in italian so why i type italian suggestions come up instead of english... thanks again
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DeadBirdDog:
Indeed. Changelog please
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steve4bass:
Great, thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
In the Oct 7 ROMs, the Start Menu switcher (in the Settings folder) now gives 5 options, either "Normal", "List View", "Panel", "Compact" or "Sense".

Normal is self explanatory. List View and Panel are new ones.

Compact is QuickMenu. Sense is using a Sense window for the Start menu.

Here's NRG's comments on the options from the HD2 thread :

See screenshot below :
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mirech1:
the archive Energy.RHODIUM.21916.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Oct.07.7z is damaged. It doesn't work with winrar or 7-zip.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] godwinvandamme:
YES ITS TRUE...GET unsupported compression method with 7z and winrar
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] alinchioveanu:
corupted

Energy.RHODIUM.21916.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Oct.07 is corrupted:mad:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] monomer888:
I'm really liking the choices we have now. With the new options, I'm just not having to touch the pagepool size. Nice!

I just had a quick switch between the different options. There's an interesting side effect using the "Panel" and "Sense" start menus with long pressing the phone ("send") key. As well as launching the user-defined program, it seems to also launch the replacement start menu as well. Not a big deal, but thought I'd point it out to see if anyone else sees the same thing. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Reepurr:
You need the beta version of 7-zip (9.17). Version 4.65 doesn't support the LZMA2 compression method that is now being used.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] monomer888:
That's really interesting! It's not unusual for devices to get a hardware revision, but I'm surprised that our 'aging' devices get that sort of attention! Very encouraging. :)

Just out of curiosity did you notice any differences between the phones on the hardware information screens?

I agree. I've left my pagepool at 22Mb on my last flash and I was finding at the end of a week that I was hardly checking my free RAM at all.

I had the same feeling about overclocking, but curiosity got the better of me. It's like when you get a new car, you really just want to put it through its paces and see what it can do!

Oddly, with OCT on my device I found variable performance overclocked to 652Mhz to the point that I thought stock 528Mhz was smoother, but the sweet spot on my TP2 was 710Mhz. As always, your mileage may vary. ;)

I'm envious that you have a fast new TP2 to test out. Enjoy!