yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] SlyDogJeff77:
OK please don't take anything the wrong way. Before I make a call to AT&T or send this guy money, Please help me understand.

What makes a phone UNLOCKED? You can understand I'm upset if I've been wrong for all of these years..

What should I ask AT&T for when I call and what will they give me.. Please don't say I should ask for an unlock code and they will give me an unlock code. What are these codes and what do they do.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
There are different ways that a phone can be "unlocked". Normally people assume you're talking about SIM-unlocked, i.e. whether you can put in any SIM you like or just a SIM from the carrier the phone is locked to. So if you ask AT&T for an unlock code then they will also assume you're talking about SIM unlocking (though you can ask them to confirm).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] SlyDogJeff77:
OK so I understand better. The confusion I was having is that I thought a Hard-SPL Unlocker was the same as a SIM Unlocker. OK so if I just call at&t and give them the IMEI number of the Tilt 2 I sold, they will give me the unlock code for free? and he will be able to use any sim in that phone from then ON??

or will i have to use http://rhodium.htc-unlocks.com/ and shell out the $20?

I don't understand why AT&T would allow one of the phones locked to their sim cards to accept some other carrier's sim card. They would be loosing money. right?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deeken:
Not to berate you but if you don't even know what makes a phone UNLOCKED why did you even advertise that is was? A simple search here or a look at the very first thread would give you all the answers:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=550131

To put it simply a SIM UNLOCKED phone means it will work with other GSM carries such as Tmobile.

Anyways if you want to try to get an UNLOCK code from AT&T you have 2 ways of getting it. But you will need the IMEI number from the back of the phone or box that came with the phone.

1- Call AT&T customer support and let tell them that you will be going overseas and will be using a different SIM card and will need to get the unlock code to do that. They will issue you a ticket and send you the unlock code within a week.

2- Search google for AT&T Unlock and somewhere you will find a phone number to an AT&T international service department (or something similar) and tell them the same story in the first step and they will give you the code over the phone.

I have tried both methods and they both worked. I had 2 (two) AT&T Fuze and had them both unlocked by these methods.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Just tell them it's still your phone and you're going on vacation to Europe. If you've had a contract with them for over a year, they'll normally just give it to you with no problem. Otherwise, you'll need to pay them to give it to you.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Don't be too hard, the poster obviously thought he knew what "unlocked" meant, but has now discovered he had misunderstood. He seems to want to do the right thing to sort out the mistake.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] SlyDogJeff77:
Thank you very much for understanding!! YES of course I want to do the right thing. I emailed the ebay buyer and asked him for the IMEI number and told him I'll call at&t to get the unlock code. :)

In addition, I read this top to bottom.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIM_lock

VERY useful information. So I guess I'm wondering, why I wouldn't want to do this with EVERY phone I get from AT&T. (Let's just exclude iPhone right now)

I've had an AT&T phone number for more than 5 years now. I like their network and service here in NY. I just keep upgrading my phone and extending my contract.

What if I call them and tell them the truth?! That I had this tilt2 but I bought a new android phone. I sold my old phone to someone in dubai and I need the unlock code? If anyone thinks that story won't work, then I'd go with the first story that I'm going over seas and I need the unlock code. But my concern with this is that they might look at the account and see the existing IMEI numbers on the account and put up a red flag.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
They don't know which phone you actually use. Just because you got a shiney new phone, doesn't mean you don't use the old one. Maybe you just don't want to take the new one with you in case it gets lost. The can't say anything about that. Telling them you're traveling overseas is the easiest option. If you tell them you sold the phone, then I doubt they'll help you as the phone doesn't belong to you anymore.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
It isn't T-Mobile, my device keeps the time perfectly, including the recent DST shift.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] SlyDogJeff77:
Ok good enough. I agree with that totally. I appologize to everyone for taking up so much space on this thread for something that really isn't even related to Energy's rom..

energy's rom is really fantastic and of course i'm addicted to flashing for years. :)

this question can go un answered but if this guy on htc-unlocks.com can get an unlock code from your IMEI, how come we can't do it our selves? It's just an ordinary highly complex math algorithmic code number derived from the IMEI number! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
I do not think you can use an AT&T unlock code. Don't you have to be able to access the phone to enter the unlock code? If the new buyer can't get into the phone because it is locked, how is he going to enter an unlock code? Can a person get into a locked phone without having the AT&T network card?

EDIT: I'm thinking that you may have to ship that phone back to you and then unlock it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
If you develop the program, then you can be the one to decide how much to charge.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
You just enter a series of numbers into the dialer. He should be alright not having the phone. T-Mobile has normally e-mailed the code to me when I've asked. There're instructions in the e-mail that tell you exactly how to enter the numbers.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] SlyDogJeff77:
no, as soon as he put his sim in the phone, he said it was asking for the unlock code. so i think he will be fine.. once he reply and gives me the imei number :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] SlyDogJeff77:
I wouldn't charge... I like this site too much to take advantage of such technically gifted people. :) :P
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
In that case, we are all anxiously awaiting your unlock program. Be sure to let us know when it is ready, since there is no one doing it for free other than the carriers.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dudeluv:
Funny, AT&T phones are world phones and come SIM unlocked. You can use any sim card in it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deeken:
This statement is False. They DO NOT come SIM Unlocked.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] IgwanaRob:
Since when does Sim unlocking concern Energy Roms?

....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hx4700 Killer:
There are guys on ebay selling unlock codes for like $8 - $10.

You have to give them the IMEI. Have your customer do that. If you didnt sell it as an "unlocked" phone then frankly its not your problem and he should have known better.

Lol I stand corrected... some are just $1
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] the show stopper:
Att phones need to be unlocked they don't come unlocked. Actually not only Att but all the phones no matter which carrier/service provider also need to be unlocked b4 you change the carrier.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] [rono]:
Apps shutting down when you close a file and open a second [SOLVED]

The accurate description of the problem is this:

When you use apps like Pocket Word, ListPro, I'm guessing any WM6 app that use the standard WM open dialog box, it shows up when you tap OK to close one file and try to open a second. By the time, the file loads, the app shuts down and you're back to the home screen. I have consistently experienced it with Word that I use daily and ListPro.

A workaround with ListPro is using the "Done" soft button instead of the OK button to close a list.

As you can read above, I have made several posts regarding this subject in previous months. At first I thought the problem came from Arkswitch. It was actually not the case.

I found it this weekend: it comes from one of AMeBa's settings. Launch X Button Settings and go to the Advance tab. Disable "Force Apps to Close" and the problem goes away for good.

Hope this helps.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigBadger:
Stay on topic!

:D

Plenty of good information but one link to the right place would have been plenty.

BTW, I just used AT&T's online chat feature and got my SIM unlock code immediately. One little wrinkle, however. The IMEI number on the Phone Identity screen included an extra '01' at the end. This confused the rep. I had to take my battery out and verify the number there. (and since this might be a ROM issue I don't feel too bad posting it.)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MauriceA:
Update error 270 file corrupt Dutch version?

Does anybody else experience an update error 270 when flashing "Energy.RHODIUM.21683.Sense2.5.NLD.Cookie.2.0.Nov.03"?

I have performed Task29 before flashing.

I have downloaded the ROM twice.

:confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Kajoe:
Hi Energie. What a wonderfull rom you have made. Fantastic. Thank you very much.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] monomer888:
If you experience 'awful battery' just after a fresh ROM reflash, then this is common. Just use the phone and charge it up as you would normally. Do this for a good few days and ignore what the battery life is because the phone needs to 'relearn' how to use the battery.

Also read the 'battery' advice in section 1 of this thread's FAQ.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] redpoint73:
All "World Phone" means that the phone has the proper GSM radios to work in many foreign countries, while roaming on AT&T's service (ATT SIM). As already mentioned, all ATT phones are SIM locked. ATT is open to you using a local SIM, but you need to call them for the SIM unlock code, and be a present customer in good standing.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dudeluv:
When I first got my Tilt2, I called AT&T to get my unlock code and they told me that it was already unlocked and I could use any sim card I wanted,

also I paid Olipro $20 for his unlocker and during the proccess it said that my phone was sim unlocked, I unlocked my cid and patched the Radio so I could flash anything.

http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-...locale=&_dyncharset=UTF-8&solutionId=KB102449

Question:

What is the difference between a Device Lock code, a SIM PIN, and a PUK code?

Answer:

Device Lock codes, SIM PINs, and PUK codes have to do with the security and functionality of your wireless phone.

A Device Lock code is a security code on devices that prevents unauthorized use. Some devices have a preprogrammed code from the manufacturer and others have a user-defined code. For more information on locking and unlocking your device, refer to your device User Manual. (See the instructions below for help accessing your User Manual online.)

A SIM PIN is a four to eight digit code that is used to prevent unauthorized use of a SIM card. The default PIN for an AT&T SIM card is 1111. When the SIM PIN is enabled, the security option follows the SIM card if the card is moved from one device to another. If you enter the incorrect PIN for your device three times, the SIM card will lock, and you will need to get a PUK code from AT&T to unlock your SIM card.

A PIN Unlock Key (PUK) code is required to unlock SIM cards that have become locked following three successive incorrect PIN entries. If your SIM card becomes locked, you will need to get a PUK code from AT&T to unlock your SIM card. For more information, see What is a PUK code?

To get your phone's PUK code online:

Log in to your myWireless Account.

Select My Services under My Account.

From the My Services screen, select My Phone/Device.

Select Unblock SIM Card.

The Unblock SIM screen will display your PUK code.

To locate your device User Manual online:

Log out of your myWireless Account (if you are logged in).

Go to our Phone/Device Learning Center/Tutorials.

Select the manufacturer and model of your device, then select Next.

Under Manufacturer Resources, select the User Manual link.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigBadger:
Okay. I tried humor before. Now to move on to a more serious tone.

Take the discussion of unlocking to another thread. :mad:

If you are going to include a hyperlink to something, you shouldn't then quote the whole thing. :rolleyes:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] leckig:
quicklinks are likely the same as your pc desktop shortcuts.... you're right , their purpose is for accessibility..... just tap one of the blank square frame in your cookie hometab and you will be able to assign one application/program.[/QUOTE]

thanks.

The communication error for visual voice mail still exist, I activated the VVM yesterday and rebooted phone many times since.

I am trying to create a shortcut or a quicklink to a file on the SD card. It seems like quicklinks dont work for anything that is not installed.

Also, this is super strange - I cannot see the WINDOWS folder on the phone via active sync. It seems to be completely hidden. I have the "show hidden folders" setting on. I see the WINDOWS folder via total commander but I cannot access via PC.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigBadger:
make Windows folder visible, Quick Links for stuff not installed

I believe the setting you are looking for is "Hide protected operating system files" in the View tab of the Folder Options on your PC.

EDIT: confirmed.

The Quick Links can be linked to programs that are installed, yes. But you can fake it out by creating a shortcut to your executable in the \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\ folder. It will then show up in the list of programs you can link your Quick Link to.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] leckig:
You are correct, thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rcgators:
Looks like new roms are on the way....

LEO roms are uploading... we shouldn't be far behind.

Here is the change log from LEO.

November 8th, 2010

21864 build

•Dutch language for CHT Editor added

•Updated to build 21684 !

•Updated Palringo to 2.5.3 (more features and more languages added)

•Updated Arkswitch to 1.2 in 6.5.X builds

•Updated to Opera 9.7 36027

•CHTState updated to solve battery drain issues with CHT 2.0

•Games fixed in Dutch ROMs

•Lots of graphics updates to .Sencity ROMs ! (roostcity's icons also cooked in!)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kfreels:
Replacing my phone tonight - titanium

My Tilt2 Needed a warranty replacement so I have a few questions.

I am running titanium 219xx from June 19. I see the current version is from Oct 15. I know that sometime in between there was a release that had a few bugs. Is the Oct 15 version stable and fairly bug free?

Also, back in June, I read that the 219xx version was more stable but the 216xx version had the big softkeys on the bottom. Is there now a stable version on titanium with the large softkeys at the bottom? Or should I stick with the 219xx builds. Stability is the most important to me. Anything else I need to know?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hefman:
There really is no difference in the stability between WM6.5 (219XX) and WM6.5.X (216XX or 23XXX) any more. They have been comparable in terms of stability for months.

However, you need to know that some older apps might not handle the larger bottom bar that well, so, if that's a concern to you, that might affect your decision.

Titanium works great with the WM6.5.X builds, since that's the OS it was originally designed for. It all depends on if the apps you install can handle it...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
New ROMs are available

Last 2 tweets from NRGZ28

Copied changelog from LEO thread.

I downloaded Energy.RHODIUM.21684.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.sencity.Nov.08.7z

I copyied it to my storage card, but will flash from work tomorrow. Too tired to do it tonight.

This will be my first time using Sencity.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] archjeb:
Awesome ROM. So much better than the stock ROM.

Thanks for all the hard work on this NRGZ28.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gtdRR:
Can someone please tell me the names of the themes used for TCPMP and WMP in the GTX rom.

Thank You
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] monomer888:
Latest word from the Twitterverse:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DiAbLoxx83:
8 nov roms

Are some rom 21864 duplicated in ftp?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hisokajp:
Hey guys, is there somebody else having problem with the winter time?

I'm on UK time and my phone always come back to summer time on its own... Even though we changed to winter time 9 days ago... Any hints would be appreciated :)

I'm running the rom "Energy.RHODIUM.21916.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Nov.02" since 2 days ago but no difference...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] motisu:
Yes. I already twittered NRG about it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] UserMarcus:
Yes, the same probleme.

btw. and it seems for me that the battery life is shorter with 02 Nov ROM..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hisokajp:
I gather you do not know a solution either then? :)

Hopefully this will be fixed in the next ROM
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pietsukkel:
From the Leo thread:

So the batery drain (caused by CHT) should be solved in the November 8 release.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
I presume it's to do with him re-cooking and re-uploading some ROMs, perhaps the old ones have been left behind ? Only trouble is, we don't know which is which.

Unless the duplicates are Cookie 2.0 ? Because right now none of the 21684 ROMs are labelled as Cookie 2.0.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
That chtstate change has been available from the CHT official thread for some weeks now (and commented about previously in this thread). You didn't have to wait for the Nov 8 ROM for it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vinceweis:
Start Menu

I found something curious and I like it. I installed WinStrat but then went back to Compact Start Menu for the memory savings. Now, if I touch the start icon on the screen, the CSM starts. If I touch the start menu again, I get the WinStart screen with no hit on memory. I get access to both with the memory savings of CSM only.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] token2k6:
Uh-OH!

Looks like we got two of em stacked right on top of each other! I want the one without CHT 2.0, guess it's time to roll the dice!?! :D

Energy.RHODIUM.21684.Sense2.5.Cookie.sencity.Nov.08.7z

Energy.RHODIUM.21684.Sense2.5.Cookie.sencity.Nov.08.7z
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Viper Matrix Wireless:
Ummm they look to be the same. Seems he missed 2.0.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
It could be that he's still in the process of uploading the corrected ROMs, and just hasn't got to Cookie 2.0 yet for 21684. I'm sure we'll see it soon.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dancnpete:
a couple of long standing annoyances

I have no idea whether this is the energy rom specifically, or just a general sense issue, but I have two constantly recurring problems and I'm hoping someone could shed some light on the possible solution.

a) the people tab randomly chooses to delete and add people, this also seems to happen less often in the programs under CHT.

b) attached to the computer the wifi will routinely turn on for no reason.

does anyone else experience these problems if so any solutions?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] buffalosolja42:
I noticed the favorite people issue as well but seems to be fixed with restart. I have also seen that quicklinks get moved on occasion on cookie 2.0 specifically but after I restart and correct the one it is fixed, my camera app gets getting replaced with my bofa shortcut.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
I just tweeted NRGZ28 about the 5 flavors of 21684 Cookie 2.0 not being on hotfile.

Figured that I would post that I did that, so he doesn't get hundreds of tweets like it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
NRGZ28 Tweet
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
First impressions - Energy.RHODIUM.21684.Sense2.5.Cookie.Nov.08

Last night I flashed Energy.RHODIUM.21684.Sense2.5.Cookie.Nov.08

Here are my first impressions:

1- No visual differences so far from the last ROMs of the same "flavor"

2- It seems to be a little bit faster than 21683, which was already fast.

3- I am getting more free RAM than before (I do not use any of the alternatives to the start menu). I am getting about 67Mb free after a reset, with all my applications installed and configured, what is about 8Mb more than I used to get.

4- I am still having issues with Sprite Backup: at the end of the backup process it says it could not backup the system settings and no backup is saved. I started to experience it around the Oct 25 ROM, and updating Sprite Backup to the latest version did not help.

5- Although I flashed the first version of the Nov 8 ROM, I do not see any problems with the start menu icons that NRGZ mentioned and that caused him to upload a second version of them. May be the problem is limited to some other flavors of the ROM.

So, I believe we have yet another great ROM from NRGZ.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Cookie 2.0 ROMs for 21684 appear to be uploading now. But still some duplicates for the plain Cookie (1.8.5) ones.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] azwildcat98:
Cosmetic bugs with 'compact flip clock' home layout in GTX CHT 2.0 & .sencity ROMS

There were still a few cosmetic glitches persistent in the 'compact flip clock' home layout modes with the Nov 2 ROMs for both GTX CHT2.0 & .sencity (1.x or 2.0). I'm waiting for these to be fixed before abandoning my beloved GTX theme :)

Can someone running a Nov 8 GTX CHT2.0 or .sencity ROM post a screen shot of your home screen with the 'compact flip clock' layout displayed?

The bugs I have noticed:

Black bar behind the location and weather is not tall enough to cover the information (.sencity ROMS).

Distortion thru the middle of the clock, where the flip line would be (.sencity ROMs)

No colon between the hour and minutes (GTX CHT 2.0 ROM)

Thank you very much for your help!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Duplicates are gone now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
NRGZ28 Energy

This is a cab to kill the annoying roaming messages you might get with my ROMs > http://digs.by/d8cnch
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Looks like all the Nov 8 21684 ROMs have finished uploading now (i.e. the missing Cookie 2.0 ones).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jwschors:
yes I have the same error message for the same rom, I'm currently trying the cookie 1.x version; hopefully that works :)

EDIT: Energy.RHODIUM.21683.Sense2.5.NLD.Cookie.Nov.03 seems to work fine.