yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] NRGZ28:
Yep! I see that now as well... seems titanium is messed up in the 23128 build. I'll take a look and update the ROMs later on..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] osu9400:
Is there a 23673 Titanium build?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] NRGZ28:
Titanium fix cab for the Titanium ROMs just uploaded...

http://www.energyroms.com/Addons/NRGZ28 Titanium patch Aug10th 23128 ROMs ONLY.cab

Install and reboot and all will be well :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] NRGZ28:
No.... :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
Oh, that is why I didn't see it. I'm not running the Titanium interface, I'm using SPB Pocket plus.

EDIT: I did see the screen not refresh, but it was fixed with a soft reset.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dieggo:
I made some test but the phone always turn the screen off, does someone know exactly how to disable it any registry key or any other magic program
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dieggo:
Can you fix it up???

thank a lot!!1
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ppa25:
Is there a way to install some of the features from the 23128 build onto the 21911 build? I'd like to install the new Lockscreen, the threaded email, and the finger-friendly task bar dock.

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dieggo:
Hi thanks for the advice but i can find where i can disable this proximity sensor or modify the sitings
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stained-steel:
There are different versions of johcos's Endkey Replacement... Maybe try another one? I've used the Anastasia (Dinik) version, with no problems at all with the ROM in my sig...

EDIT: BTW, the puns were fast and furious! LOL Hope I didn't hurt your sensitivity...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deeznuts:
23128 Build Reviews?

So how you guys liking this build? Doesn't matter what version rom ur running, just how is this build in general compared to other 23000 series builds? I ask because it seems this is finally the first ever NON-Beta version of this build series, com5 tree that i've seen and NRG put in his changelog for August 10th roms. Notice any difference as in graphical or performance compared to other 23000 series builds? This one any faster, more stable or not even any noticable differences? Thanks guys.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] whiffer2:
I had a couple freezing issues with the 23128_Cookie_Aug10. One when setting up my Gmail account, and another when I received a call. I am now on the Standard Energy (no cookie) 23128_aug 10 and loving it. Very fast and stable so far.

I am running the .94 radio fyi.

I always run task29 before updating latest and greatest rom.

SD card formatted

Resident of Michigan (ATT)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dancnpete:
is it safe to remove sensefix

okay new question is it safe to get rid of sensefix.exe?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] piaqt:
My apologies.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigBadger:
Start

Tools

Advanced Config

Light Sensor

Try poking around a little to get your bearings.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
I agree 100%. That's why I hard reset.

I was just curious if that much memory really could be eaten by having nice icons. Since most icons are less than 20k it seemed unlikely.

With XDA_UC, it's about 5 minutes of actual work after a hard reset, so I just wanted to check.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] blast0id:
seems like there should be an option somewhere in the registry to keep the icons from being cached... seems a little strange to have that much eaten up at all times...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hx4700 Killer:
I would like to have both :) I think I will just use an app like folderview for all the icons I don't have on the sense tab and put that LNK on a sense tab and keep it out of the start menu :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] NRGZ28:
And wait for them to be reloaded everytime I open the start menu ? Hell no! lol I'm sure MSFT's software engineers are smarter than all of us combined and coded it that way for a reason :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] miked79928:
I can attest to the memory savings of this! I am using the ROM version in my signature with a 14mb pagepool. Upon startup I have 50% (96 MB) OF RAM after Sense starts. When I let the device sit for a while and rifle through the tabs and start menu, this drops to about 42%; still a very acceptable figure! I also have to say that I think this ROM is a keeper. With the phone overclocked to 768 mhz and the memory tweak, I am extremely happy with my TP2! Thank you so much Nrg!!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigWopHH:
I assume you've already done this, but what about optimizing the actual icon images to decrease their file sizes?

If they're not already compressed as small as they could be without looking crappy, that could end up being a nice optimization.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] azwildcat98:
Arkswitch Task Manager / CHT Lockscreens

Is Arkswitch still being used in Aug 10th 23128 ROMs? My main reason for staying with 21911 over 23128 is because the Arkswtich task manager seemed to close on it's own after a period of normal operation, and it was more difficult to switch between running apps or close apps with it closed. Since 23128 is a 'non-beta' I'm tempted to try that series out again, but not if the Arkswitch issue still occurs.

Also, I have never tried using CHT Lockscreens before. I've avoided it because I have read that it may cause freezing once enabled. Does enabling CHT Lockscreens still cause freezing? and if so, if I were to disbable it, would the frezing stop or does enabling it corrupt the ROM permanently in some way after that?

You insight would be much apprecated!!! Thank you!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] josemald:
I just flashed Aug10 21903 Cookie w/Dinik theme Rom. Compared to the older Roms (July and before), the music tabs that are emptied after a soft reset (artist, album, and genre) take much longer time to load (more than 15 minutes, with about 6 Gb of songs). After flashing or after deleting the music library file loading only takes about 6 minutes, with some songs showing up at minute 4. Since it seems a Sense issue, because it has been going on for every Sense 2.5 Rom I've tried, I was thinking a way to improve music loading was to delete the library file with every soft reset. Anybody knows a way to do this? Since Sense needs to be disabled for the file to be deleted, maybe a script that runs before Sense is executed after a soft reset.

Also, adding to the icons and memory discussion, the folder \Application Data\HTC\ProgLauncher contains several icon files in .bmg format, each using 64 kb. I always replace the Opera 10 and Lock program icons with the Dinik versions (.png format but with .bmg extension, about 20-30 kb each) so they show up nicely in the quicklinks. Maybe changing all of them to png format can free up some memory. Can't try myself since I don't have a program that opens bmg.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deeznuts:
Yes icons do make a difference. I use to flash the Energy Reference version roms and using iconchanger i would reload all the dinnik icons. This took away a good 6-10mb permanently from doing this over the Stock NRG style icons in that rom out of the box.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deeznuts:
So set the pagepool to 14mb and overclock the device to 768mhz and u get that much free ram on that rom in ur sig? Thats pretty amazing imo bro! You barely get that much IF EVEN that much free ram from the Energy Standard rom! Now to figure out how to overclock my phone? ANyone?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
I actually looked at every png file in the windows folder. There's only a lttle more than 2100 of them. Most are not for icons.

Most for the icons are around 90x90 which is exactly what the other thread recommends. And just some of the new folder icons are at 128x128. The few that are 128x128 are not enough to be a problem. And most are only 10 to 15 kb. As I expected NRGZ28 had this all set the way it should be. He's a pro.

Something I did discover is that the old icon with the gear for Start->Settings->Home still is in the Windows folder.

Just change

Icon = to "\Windows\Start_icon_TodaySet.png"

which is located at:

HKLM\Security\Shell\StartInfo\Start\Settings\cplmain.cpl,13
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] robseargeant:
More than likely he is using some sense files from the new AT&T ROM then. Having any version of Sense selected in Advanced GUI will cause it to freeze. Something is odd about that one!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
I haven't noticed ArkSwitch close on it's own with the August 10th ROM.

But when it did with the August 6th, i would restart it. Then, I would use it and see that almost nothing was running, but I was getting low on memory ( around 20 MB free ). So, I am thinking that windows memory management might be closing it when it is running low on memory. I am not 100% positive yet on that though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigWopHH:
Aside from dimensions, PNGs can still be compressed further by using a color palette with fewer colors. Just for giggles, I was experimenting with a 128x128 PNG of the camcorder icon. If the file is saved without compression (24-bit PNG) it's about 22K. If the same source image is saved as an 8-bit PNG using a 128 color palette it's only 7K. Problem is, the 128-color version doesn't look nearly as nice.

With a 256 color palette, however, the icon looks really good, and shrinks to about 9K. It's not as perfect as the original, but it's good enough that the untrained eye won't catch the differences.

I'd bet NRG has already done something similar, but it was an interesting experiment nonetheless. If NRG hasn't compressed the icons, however, cutting their file sizes in half could be a worthwhile compromise to free up some mem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jedah:
I think this may be what you're looking for:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=725290

It's still a work in progress, but very promising.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dieggo:
Sorry but i cant find this advanced config in my phone,

i beileve that my phone don't have it, im using the energy rom the lastest version cokkie mo..!

is it posible?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wmg316:
JVH3 answered your arkswitch question...

CHT is wonderful. By default, NRGZ28 has the CHT Lockscreen disabled...and has the "Anddroid" style lockscreen enabled. From my experience, the CHT Lockscreen caused 100% of my freezing issues, therefore I would recommend leaving the CHT lockscreen disabled.

If you don't like the Android style lockscreen, there is a shortcut under Start, Settings, Personal, Switch Lockscreens which will switch back to the WM Style lockscreen.

Enabling and disabling the CHT Lockscreen (through CHT Editor) in no way corrupts the ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
I tried the default windows lockscreen to see if it would use less memory. It uses more like 8 to 10 MB instead of 5, so the cooked in Android style is the best choice.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wmg316:
I was recommended by user 'Doo Doo' the same site with additional instructions:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wmg316:
Good to know!

But I have to sacrifice some memory for the looks that I like! :D

While on the subject of memory:

I've been reading all the posts about setting page pool to 14; I tried this today...and did notice better free RAM...but it seemed a bit to choppy for my taste. I just reflashed setting the page pool to 16...so far mor RAM than 20...and not as "choppy" feeling as 14...we'll see how it goes.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sigma20xx:
Quote:

Originally Posted by sigma20xx

Quote:

Originally Posted by steviewevie

On what version of the ROM ? On Aug 4/23673/CHT, when I hit the hard "end call" button, it seems to take me back to the home screen. I don't normally bothered using it, but just tried from another Sense tab, from another program, and from the folders in the start menu.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sigma20xx

Right now I'm using the rom dated 24 July/21911 max sense without CHT.

The hard "end call button" doesn't take me to the home screen in Max Sense from the following areas.

Open text message.

Contacts list

Calendar

Wheather app

Facebook app

The settings menu and it's sub menus

Is there something I can do to fix this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deeznuts:
Pagepool Difference?

Running the august 10th 23128 max sense rom and set pagepool to 14. Double checked to make sure it saved the pagepool, task29, flash, hard reset, still only have about 75mb free from a fresh flash. After XDA_Uc and soft reset it rests around 69-70mb of free ram according to the arkswitch task manager. Was hoping for more free ram downgrading the pagepool, seems to have made zero difference.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] TragicPhill:
I have been a constant user of the energy cookie ROM on my tilt 2, and have always had trouble with the home tab being slow/laggy. I flashed the 21911 version to try and correct this, but to no avail. scrolling with the touchflow bar is quick, smooth and easy unless I start from the home tab, which makes it scroll slowly and innacurately. Same goes for content in the tabs. Every tab works smoothly except the home tab, which is often slow and laggy even though everything else is running just fine. Also this ROM tends to leave me with between 15-40Mb of memory (constantly at 70-80%) , and you don't have to be a wiz to know that's not very much.

Ideas? Suggestions?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mudbuddha:
hi guys,

not sure if anyone else is having problems, and unsure if this is the ROM issue or my handset in general.

sometimes my phone will be unable to make calls or receive calls, when i call there is no tone and then it just disconnects. when people are trying to call me it says "The number you have dialed is currently unavailable please leave a msg etc etc"

my temporary fix at the moment is going to settings>wireless controls>phone(change settings)>network and then choose manually my network, this would allow me to make 1 call before it then becomes unable to call or receive calls again.

no errors or warnings that tell me my phone is unable to call or receive calls which is disturbing.

sometimes my phone will be fine all day and stay that way and then sometimes i have that call/receive calls issue. i have tried resetting and shutting down, doesnt fix the issue, i know for a fact my Sim and network provider is fine as i tried it on multiple handsets and has worked with no problems, so its coming down to my handset or even the ROM.

been flashing Energy Roms since i owned the phone, but this problem has been affecting me for about 2 weeks now. when i re-flash to an updated rom (not an older rom) it does fix the problem but then in a few days it does the same thing.

anyone can help??

Phone: HTC TouchPro2

network: 3G Vodafone AU

Rom: Energy.RHODIUM.21911.Sense2.5.Cookie.DinikGlass Aug 06

Radio: Rhodium 4.49.25.91

Location: Sydney Australia

Cheers guys!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wmg316:
Phone Keypad Tones

I've noticed today when making calls that the tones on the number pad of the phone are not there??? :confused:

Did NRG leave these out?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] TragicPhill:
If you look at the Changelog it says that he did.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] eac:
Is there Start -> Settings -> Personal -> Phone with Phone tab and Keypad: option of any use?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deeznuts:
For NRG to cook in yes the android one is the best choice to save some ram. If u really want to save ram though i suggest using s2u2. Using the latest version now and only uses 3mb of ram while locked and when unlocked u get the full 3mb of ram back. Not sure if the Android style wm lockscreen gives back that 5mb of ram it takes away the first time u lock the device? Unlock and check.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Reepurr:
I frequently have both ArkSwitch and the PocketShield lock screen close on me when I get low on memory, which happens very often on the latest ROMs. Before I used PocketShield, the LockDevice program included with the ROM would also close under the same circumstances. This almost invariably happens after I run Opera. I keep meaning to look for a way to prevent a process from being closed in low memory situations, but so far I haven't got around to it.

I recently tried the Cosmik Debris 3.7 ROM to see how much free RAM I could conceivably get with just about everything stripped out. I had around 130MB free after boot. No Sense or Titanium, though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] telder:
You can't stop WinCE from being WinCE. Part of the original design was that when a running program hasn't been used in a while and memory is needed by another program, the former is closed to make room for the latter. Since ArkSwitch is started very early, and not used often, it is low in the stack and will get pushed out earlier than say Pocket Outlook.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tnt23:
People dont hear me when i can them or when they call me

That bug happens ever since i have my TP2...

but i noticed its more or less recurent with different flashes i do..

and in aug 10 23128 cookie i get it a lot

that bug requite a reset to disapear...and sometimes it doesnt...

anybody else got that issue ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Reepurr:
I suppose the simplest fix is just to map ArkSwitch to a hardware key so it gets restarted if it isn't already running. This wouldn't help with PocketShield, though, since this whole point is to have the phone lock automatically on suspend.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] J-Hop2o6:
or just hit the WM start button and turn on ArkSwitch back on from there.. or add it to your Quicklinks like i did sinceWM shuts it down because of low RAM (mainly from OM 9.7 browsing).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
I has to have it, because it is cooked in.

Check what you are installing or restoring. I don't experience any lags and consistently have 45-50 Mb of free RAM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] robseargeant:
I did some more playing with this. While it is true the Sense files from the New AT&T ROM don't play nice with the TF2, TF3, and HTC Sense advanced/gui settings in cleanRAM you can acheive the same effect by:

Selecting "Today Items" in the GUI/Shell

Then in settings underneath select close all apps and run all startup apps. Just make sure you don't have manilla.exe in the exemptions list. Also have voicecmd.exe in the exemptions list if you use it, otherwise it will go through a mic cycle on start up.

These settings allow me to run a Level 3 sweep and reset Sense. Ran it through several scheduled cleanings flawlessly as well. Hope this helps.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Ramsfan_Jim:
Save to contacts issue

I flashed the latest 2.1 ROM last night - as always very happy and no real issue.

The only thing I have spotted is that - as with previous ROMs - you cannot save to contacts through the dialer. The only solution I have found is to go back to the original (ugly) dialer rather than the one cooked in the ROM.

Has anyone found an alternative solution?

Cheers,

Jim.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wmg316:
Hmmm...yes he did! I'm new here to the Rhodium. Coming over from the Raphael...where change logs were not updated...as frequent as they are here. Sorry, I'll start looking for that. :cool:

That's it....didn't think to look there. :o
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pietsukkel:
Remove Programs window error

Hi NRGZ28!

I'm using the Aug 10 CHT ROM on the Rhodium. When I perform the following actions in the exact order, the window is not correctly refreshed:

Start => Settings => System => Remove Programs

The result is a incomplete window (screenprint attached thanks to Shake and Save :-).

When you click OK and then again on the Remove Programs icon, the window is displayed properly. This behavior is reproducible.

Kind regards,

Piet

P.S. I like the new icons!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
Good catch. Added to the bug log.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] savorelli:
Opera Favourites / Links / Bookmarks in place after ROM Upgrade

Hi All,

Is there anyway to preserve or auto-install the links/bookmarks that I save everyday, after a ROM re-install? Opera 10 has a feature to synch the bookmarks but Opera 9 doesn't .. thanks in advance.

Savorelli

Rhodium - NRG ROM Cookie Dinik Glass - Aug 10
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
MS MyPhone backups/restores Favorites, among other things.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deeken:
I've noticed that on the 23128 build but not on the 21911 build. I still find the 23*** builds to be buggy and for that reason I'm back to 21911.

One other issue I have noticed with both Aug 10th builds is that when I install Tomtom it only installs on the phone's ROM and not on the storage card. I've done it twice and both times I selected storage card as the install point but it still installs on the phones memory. What gives?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] miked79928:
While I did notice some extra RAM with the smaller pagepool, what really freed up the RAM for me was diabling the Sense start menu. There is a post a few pages back with a link to the CAB files to do this. The only disadvantage is that you lose the "start" and "x" soft keys, but if you can live with that then it is an excellent option.

As for the over-clocking, use the link below to the original thread. On there you will find the app as well as a script to automate the oc according to the backlight and so forth.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=725290&page=96
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] miked79928:
I agree that S2U2 is the best lock option especially due to the incoming-call-while-locked issue that occurs with the stock options.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] savorelli:
Thanks but I was hoping to use something like to Import Settings created by NRG or PIM or xml files in the storage XDA_UC folder ..

Savorelli

Rhodium - NRGZ28 Sense 2.5 8/10 23128 CHT Dinik Vodafone
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sagarc88:
Thank you that really helped. level 3 clean up went thru successfully! i couldn find voicecmd.exe in the exception 'running programs' list or the 'startup programs' list, so i guess i don't use it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Quincux:
Hello,

What are your memory tweaks for Tilt2?

I edited the pagepool from 20mb to 14mb, and after of soft-reset, my Tilt2 only have 78mb free without program installed. Any improvement to free more ram?

My ROM: Energy.RHODIUM.23128.Sense2.5.Cookie.Aug.10

My Radio: Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.95

My phone: AT&T Tilt2

bye

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Sorry for my bad english.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] purple8:
Maximilla

I have maximilla loaded with the latest aug 10th.. but the wallpaper does not streatch to the left or right..