yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigWopHH:
I had the same Sense-restarting problem as you on the 17th and the 24th ROMs. The 23673 / CHT / 30TH ROM did the same, but I think I've figured out what's happening. And now I don't have the problem any more.

It seems like Sense needs much more time to "settle" before I can make any changes. If I flash (after Task 29, no SIM, no SD) and after the first boot, immediately start making changes, Sense will hang when trying to restart.

However, if I let the phone sit for a few minutes after the first flash and let whatever backgrounds tasks are running finish. Then make some other minor changes first--setting up e-mail accounts, installing a couple of apps, etc. And wait to make any changes to Sense or CHT until later, everything restarts properly and works as it should.

Hope that helps.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deeznuts:
Heres to crossing my fingers! Just downloaded now so should have been after his twitter update. I checked the download links and all the same name so IDK? Im downloading the Energy Reference 219111 rom right now on my tilt2. Flash in a few and report back. What exactly do u guys want me to check? Just if you can place a contact in the quicklink and have it call them? I use this myself for at least 2 contacts so a must for me as well! Let me know whatever else i can check on the rom to see if it really is updated or not? Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cdiesel:
do u happen to also have a transparent version of that clock
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jpoirier587:
hmm i tried a few of of the cabs i have and im getting similar results. must be incompatible with energy's rom atm :\

im truly looking forward to a few months from now when all these small issues will be behind us and 2.5 runs as smooth as 2.1 and landscape support will be more stable. will be the perfect rom
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] npahlavan:
Clock attached.

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To everyone else, thanks for looking into my issue. I'll try this patch thing or I guess I just have to be patient
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] npahlavan:
Sweet Jesus! I love you man. You have no idea how much work I put into trying to fix this issue. I guess I just overlooked that there was a patch. Finally!! Thank you

Time for a beer...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rawb123456:
Flip Clock

How would i go about getting back the white flip clock? thanks for the help
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jezi:
Talking about this cab?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] exon16m:
I am probably doing some thing really silly but ...

Since installing the November editions I cant sync my email.

For some reason it cant find the internet connection via the mobile network and errors saying error syncronising.

I can however sync when I am connected to a WIFI network.

I have searched google and here but cant find the answer so have been forced to ask a potentialy silly question

Thank you
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joseng:
Running 28008 ROM, Everything is great and fast.

Thanks NRGz

But I can't return to stock slider after applied NRG stock slider cab file (attached picture).

Is any update cab to fix?

Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] purezerg:
help, i'm having some weird issues.

21877 1dec, I dont have battery indicator or that AC plug. how do i get it back?

not sure what i did. I tried playing around with schaps and wvga tweaks but to no avail.

my current title bar is like H/Signal strength/speaker/time/X

any help is much appreciated.

silly me. i found it.. i accidentally enabled "Display the clock on the title bar in all programs.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jezi:
You have to install both the transparent slider cab and the transparent slider fix cab to make it work.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mwf:
Run 28008, and is just so faaast :) great work!!

Anyone got danish keyboard? Especially the kbd-file to get xt9 word-completion work..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kameleongt:
been busy with work but so far so good with the 28008 rom, thanks NRG" lovin the rom.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mcse17:
Skyfire and 21877 rom

Hi All,

Firstly the 1/12 is a great ROM.. however anyone else notice that theres no sound when watching videos in skyfire..? As far as I know this is the only browser that lets you watch flash video so I use it for that all the time but the sound prob is a bit of a damper.. anyone got any suggestions..?

Thanks...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Xebec:
As with previous Engery roms, Viigo does not install on this rom. It installs on the stock rom and on the Cell & Valkryie roms. The stock rom dos not have netcf 3.5 installed. The Cell & Valryie roms have netcf 3.5.9198.0. This rom has netcf 3.5.7283.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vikramdhani:
I am not been able to send the txt messages with this rom. i mean there is no send button or link :(

any fix for this
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dizzyraider:
Quick question, how did you to got yours to display in chinese?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ANDROiD KiLLSWiTCH:
features or fixes

NRGZ28

Major update coming to ALL WVGA ROMs, based off the latest 1921 Leo ROM. Several packages updated. Uploading today.

Wonder if this is going to be new features or bug, (ahem, MMS) fixes.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwill:
No problem man:) Same thing happened to me, thats how I know. lol! And thanks for the transparent clock. Looks great:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aegeas:
Well now..

Forget what I said below. We live for this stuff and anything else is just kidding ourselves. Bring on the new versions!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ace10134:
You need to do the keyboard fix from the FAQ:

Keyboard Symbols Don't Work / Home Key opens Start Menu!! / Button Mappings!

AT&T - Download and install THIS CAB. (You might need to map other buttons, with THIS)

Yeah, try the one from the FAQ:

Keyboard Symbols Don't Work / Home Key opens Start Menu!! / Button Mappings!

Danish/Norwegina - Install THIS CAB and restart your phone!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] monomer888:
As far as I can see, he hasn't uploaded the newest Reference series yet.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
ROM looks very nice, with a few minor hiccups. (Edit: I'm using MaxSense, for the record)

Yes, I saw it too - immediately after the ROM flash - needed a reset to get sense going (I do a task 29, format my SD, etc as part of my flashing). I waited for more than 5 mins while I setup the rest of the system. The second time around, it took a while before it came up.

Free memory hovers around 18-20 % (removed all the auto start items). Sense hangs at random in regular use too (not too frequent).

Dear NRG, I'm guessing most of Sense components are still from the LEO build. Any chance of basing your Rhodium build on the Rhodium components (2013 in the new AT&T ROM?), like you were doing in the May time frame, before Sense 2016 came out? The newer sense appear to be too much for the long in tooth Rhodium to handle.. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Ditto on the signal bars. My location updates fine though. New AT&T Radio (Siggy)

Edit: My weather server is conflipper (not n2a) - do you want to see if this server makes a difference?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Zahurtex:
My Location worked tho after H/R ... :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Interesting, thanks, I will try that next time ! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
1) Signal bars = still showing 2 max?

2) Quicklink icons with icon borders turned on: Do some of the icons still look skewed to the upper left?

Thanks!

Not sure about that one, changing up the Sense tabs is just about the first thing I do (I go down the Settings list)... never had a freeze. :confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jopherr:
can anyone tell me if the stock 2.5 23xxx current release is as fast as the previous release?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] get_ur_tilt_on:
yep, same prob here,............but the dialer worked perfect with the 21911 24jul rom.........except the lock screen issue........but that was livable:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] WillardZ:
Tow bars

I guess everyone is seeing two bars signal strength but here is the kicker. I fired up my old RAZR which always showed four bars and now it too is down to two. Next kicker, my son is seeing the same thing on his Kaiser on T-Mobile!!! I flashed back to Jul 24 standard and it also shows the same. What the heck is going on ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] monomer888:
The 21911 builds are back on the download section (there were taken off for the broken dialer, I think). I was wondering if anyone confirm that the ones listed now are the updated ones with the fixed dialer?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Now that's not a good sign... :confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
Nope. They look normal to me...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
That's what I thought though. It's very subtle, unless you've got the icon borders switched on (they're off by default). See the conversation a few posts back between cmd512 and I.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Speed on CHT 23673 Jul 30 is fine for me, certainly no slower than 23673 Jul 24.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] NRGZ28:
So why do you guys call this "quicklinks" issue a bug ?!

All the icons in my ROM are drop shadowed now, because I like that look. That makes them aligned to the top left corner. They look great in the start menu, but they obviously arent "perfectly centered" in Sense. Oh well !! LOL

Turn off the icon frames like I did in the ROM "out of the box" and you won't even notice it... As you can see from the overall theme of my rom, I HATE framed icons with a passion. I never did understand why everyone that releases an icon pack, has to put a friggin frame around it. :)

As far as the dialer, it seems to be a POS so far. So I'll be reuploading the 23XXX ROMs as well, with the "old" dialer, the one that was in the Jul24th ROMs. It seems this new ATT dialer doesnt play nice with a generic ROM. The two bar signal issue is related to the dialer, by the way. So lookout for new 23XXX ROMs labeled "Jul 31st". Yes, the camera is already fixed as well.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
I don't really care for the framed icons either, so the current look is fine for me. But I can see how those who like the frames would find it annoying, it does look odd like that.

Thanks for the news about sorting the signal icon issue, will look out for the new ROMs, great work as usual :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
I read the conversation, but I have the borders on. See attached.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mark72501:
You also have different icons from the default he's speaking of it appears so...there's the difference. [NRG posted a message just a couple above yours explaining the issue they've been discussing...you may have been typing your message when he posted it.]

Edit: See your "Bing" icon...it is offset like they were talking about. Others with those other programs (that aren't "energized") aren't...maybe ones you've installed or changed?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deeznuts:
Quick Summery

What do you mean? Check the download link, says july 30th bro. That's what i downloaded and works just fine. So im assuming he reuploaded it already. If not, then theres no reason to because this one works fine that is currently in the download page for "Energy Reference 219111 rom."

NRG,

Are you uploading the "Energy Reference 219111" rom again? The july 30th one in the link currently runs fine for me. I have used the dialer in this rom with a quicklink contact and works just as always and should. Any other problems i should look for? Im assuming this is already a re-upload because i cannot duplicate any of the dialer problems on this specific rom people are talking about. Thank you.

I would also like to add this Reference rom works faster and gives me a good 8-10mb of MORE free ram then the previous version with exact same settings and apps installed and used! This must mean something good, maybe a better core from ATT?

One thing though, even though he updated the lockscreen in bold on this version, this lockscreen still gives the memory leak. Check for yourselves, soft reset your device, let it load and check the available ram, no press the start menu and then the lock left softkey to lock the device, now unlock it and check the available ram. Now you will see a good 8-10mb of lost ram! This ram also never comes back even with the phone unlocked, only way to bring the ram back is to soft reset and not use the stock wm6.5 lockscreen! I use the most current version of s2u2 which only uses 2mb of ram and you get the full 2mb of ram back after you unlock the screen! MUCH better alternative for a nice looking lockscreen and can personalize it ANY way you can imagine!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
Oh, THAT is the offset you guys are talking about??? Wow, you guys are picky! I would never have noticed it by myself...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
No worries on the icons, I just for the first time noticed it and brought it up. Now that you've clarified this is was done purposefully as an added feature, no biggie. In all previous releases, the icons simply filled up the entire icon frame.

I personally like the icon boxes for quicklinks. Otherwise, I find the quicklinks menu a bit scattered with the various/unevenly sized icons. Personal preference, that's all.

Last but not least, thanks a bunch for the update on the other findings!!

Yeah, see how most of your icons are centered and fill up the icon frame, but the icon for TCPMP doesn't? That's what I was pointing out, this was new with this ROM release.

If there is to be constructive feedback on new ROMs in-case something is a bug, we're going to feedback anything that changed from one to the other... even if they might be visually small changes. I never once complained about this, just pointing it out as a possible "tiny bug," but the Chef already clarified that it isn't.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hsidorsky:
mmalka, I just want to say thank you for calming me down. I was able to flash the latest ROM from the SD Card. Everything is working okay after figuring how to do it about 3 AM. It worked so smoothly that I may just use this way all the time.

Again, I just want to say thank you for not only your response but a quick response.

Howard :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mark72501:
Wasn't an "issue" for me, I was just clarifying what they were talking about...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chrislynch:
Any chance you can provide a link? I would like to go back to the CHT Lockscreen. TIA.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
Glad to hear.

For people thinking about flashing a custom ROM for the first time: Read the post I mention on the FAQ, relax and enjoy. Just a word of caution:

Warning: The Surgeon General Has Determined That ROM Flashing Is Addictive And Can Be Dangerous To Your Health
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] coppertop:
I'll second that.

I've worn out two SIM cards due to removing/replacing.

I'm curious, they say there's a limit on how many times you can flash a ROM. Any truth? And if so, has anyone reached it?

Nice work on the latest versions.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] teague:
I've got the restarting sense bug as well. Using Rhodium 23673 july 30 DinikGlass Cookie ROM. Sense will not start after XDA_UC import of settings immediately after ROM install. Also only see two bars on radio. Reinstalled, Task 29, etc., easily repeatable. Restart always required after install to get it to start. Then ok afterwards.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Minnesinger:
Transparent Soft Key Theme Omitted?

Just to see what all the talk is about, I decided to flash the 7/30 CHT (I've been quite happy with 7/21) in spite of knowing full well that if it's not broke I ought not fix it. Some cursory observations...

The speed is fantastic. I suspect the updated driver package helps. Further, the screen resolution looks a little crisper, at least to my eyes.

On the negative side, do I have a bad DL/flash or was the Energy Transparent Soft Key left out of this build? If so, was it intentional? That's a big downer for me.

Another downer is the new icons. I fully understand that it's NRG's prerogative to build these as he sees fit, but, for my purposes, I don't like them at all. From a visual perspective it appears he's drawing from two different palettes and visually/aesthetically there's a discontinuity. Some might say that's nit-picking and perhaps so. However, from a functional perspective and speaking only for myself, I have my QLs set up and organized so that the appearance ( i.e shape, color) of the 'old school' icons serves as a visual cue as to what page I am on, with each page being composed as a related functional group. And of course, the off sets bother me as well.

To that end, is there a way to overwrite the cooked in icons? I've attempted it in the past, but to no avail.

It sounds like NRG has more pressing issues on his plate right now. However, if this is the package we can anticipate going forward, I wonder if he would consider cooking up a cab of all the 'old school' icons. I'd be more than happy to drop a few more ducats in the tip jar. In addition to keeping things visually appealing, I would like like to keep the organizational function and visual cues offered by the previous package.

Thanks for listening...

Edit: Just thought I'd add that I'm having the Sense hang-up as well. Even after a few SRs and tweaks it doesn't seem to have settled in.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigWopHH:
I responded to Steve as well. Here's what happens for me with regard to this issue:

I had the same Sense-restarting problem as you on the 17th and the 24th ROMs. The 23673 / CHT / 30TH ROM did the same, but I think I've figured out what's happening. And now I don't have the problem any more.

It seems like Sense needs much more time to "settle" before I can make any changes. If I flash (after Task 29, no SIM, no SD) and after the first boot, immediately start making changes, Sense will hang when trying to restart.

However, if I let the phone sit for a few minutes after the first flash and let whatever backgrounds tasks are running finish. Then make some other minor changes first--setting up e-mail accounts, installing a couple of apps, etc. And wait to make any changes to Sense or CHT until later, everything restarts properly and works as it should.

Hope that helps.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
IMHO this is urban legend. Of course, any media (including your phone's memory) has a limited life. However, it is likely that your phone will be VERY obsolete before it reaches end of life.

By then, we will be talking about WM 65.x and the iPhone 44...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mark72501:
What's that, mmalka? You 'found' an iPhone 44 prototype that was left in a bar? What what?

I agree...I think long before my phone is overflashed I will have moved on to newer and better devices.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] lufc:
Do you mind not SWEARING please, i was having a good night till i read the Icrap word :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] prag16:
NRG I thought said all 480x800 ROMS were re-uploaded.

They still all say 7/30; what I want to know is if anyone can confirm if the currently posted build still has the 2 bar signal issue? Not gonna waste time reflashing again today if not...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
I don't know what the spec is for the flash memory in our phones, but typically flash ROMs are rated for tens of thousands of erase cycles, if not more. So I think we should be ok for a little while ! ;) :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] PUTALE:
is there anyway to customize what program to launch at start up?

I am wondering is there a way to reduce the amount of RAM used because I feel that having around 70MB or so free ram available initially really helps with the speed and also reduces the potential need to reset the phone after a few days of use. Currently, when I start my phone, the ram will be around 50 so I would love to be able to maybe free up around 10~20mb if possible.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
No, he said all the WVGA ROMs had been loaded, not re-loaded (I think another poster mis-interpreted this earlier on). So that's for the original load of the Jul 30 ROMs.

He said there will be a Jul 31 build for 23xxx to fix the 2-bar signal issue (and camera settings problem too, though there's a cab for that).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shaolin95:
Silly Q but I cannot find a way to do it so here it goes....where is the option to copy ALL contacts to the sim card? I can only get them like one at a time...I am sure there is a way but God I have been clicking every where so far lol
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] PUTALE:
easy, you go to all contact and choose Menu, there you go to Sim manager, and there you can select "contact to sim".

alternatively, you can go to setting, contact (windows mobile's own contact). There you can choose select contacts, and you can choose "All" and copy them to your SIM.

peronally, I back up the contact to outlook instead of SIM and recover them that way as it is easier when you keep flashing the rom.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Zahurtex:
for this you will have to select Contacts from win menu and one method is to select all from right menu and copy to sim and another is select sim manager from right menu and select all contacts and copy to sim. Hope it helps.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Jul 31 ROMs are up now for Cookie and Dinik, I presume GTX is in the process of uploading.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mark72501:
Hope he re-ups new 21x ROMs too to fix the 2 bar signal issue...I d/l'd the 21x version and the problem is present there as well.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] monomer888:
Look for "NRGZ28 Stock Lockscreen.cab"
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] monomer888:
I believe the total Program RAM figure depends on the size of the Pagepool. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] get_ur_tilt_on:
SNAP!!!!, spent the time flashing back to 24jul cookie energy, .......oh well, cant let the 31jul get away with out showin it some luv...........off to the download page i go.........:cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Just tried leaving it about 10 mins after my flash of Jul 31. Unfortunately I got exactly the same problem - Sense hung on trying to restart. Thanks anyway !
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mark72501:
Is it just me...?

So is it just me or did the Jul 31 update to fix the 2-bar signal problem not fix the 2-bar signal problem? I still have it... about to update my sig but running 23673 CHT GTX version...with the latest radio I flashed the other day (and had full bars showing on previous ROM). Just checking... I t29'd and everything before flashing.