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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] BigJayDogg3:
I don't think I was connected when I did mine.

And that was flashing the Energy rom onto my Fuze.

I can't remember 100%, but I'm ~80% sure I wasn't. Maybe I just got lucky?

EDIT: Though that wasn't the first time I'd flashed. Maybe that was the differentiating factor.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] paperWastage:
i'm guessing this is the first time you're flashing for W7, the phone goes to bootloader mode and requires drivers that can be gained from Windows Update... after the first time, if you flash again using the same USB port, you'll be fine... using another USB port requires installing drivers again but you'll have the drivers saved in the windows folder
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Daniehabazin:
Is there some trick to get customruu.exe working?

Also i have problem syncing, i can only get it working if i disable fast data syncing.

I'm running latest energyrom and win7 ultimate x64 rtm
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] alfmetal:
yeah, i think thats the difference, i was using a tmobile MDA with WM 5 like 2 years ago, and used to install custom roms but back in the time i had dsl so i never had a problem doing it.

so, BTW, how fast is the Energy rom?

the one i have looks nice but i feel is very slow
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] alfmetal:
i wonder if there is an offline mode to do this?, without an internet connection.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] alfmetal:
not that i know, but i have win7 32 bits version, so maybe its has something to do with the 64 version
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] player911:
It could be that there are no 64bit drivers for the phone available. I use Win7 x32 and it is a hassle getting it first sync'd up. What I normally do is just put the phone in bootloader mode before plugging in the USB cable. That way it only downloads the drivers it needs the first time.

Usually takes me a few resets of the PC and a couple Mobile Device Center restarts to get it to start ticking. Perhaps try downloading the latest Mobile Device Center, even if yours is the latest... just install over the existing installation. That's worked for me a few times.

Is it your first time flashing? Is it a newer Fuze? Because the latest Fuze's have a newer bootloader that is 1.95 (vs 1.90). I haven't found a way around it yet unless perhaps flash an official AT&T rom that has the 1.90 bootloader that may downgrade it... then HardSPL.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] colin725:
Just to add, windows 7 64bit here and haven't noticed one difference or problem with anything.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Daniehabazin:
Nah, had my raphael a long time, have flashed a couple of roms before, i'll try to put it in bootloader mode and let it install the driver, i'll keep searching for a customruu that works for 7 x64, Thanks for the reply
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Daniehabazin:
i got syncing working, uninstalled the driver for the mobile remote adapter, and let it download a new one from windows uppdate, and now it works, stange since it's the same driver as before...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] empire6:
I was having the same problem with windows 7 x64 and the fuze... found my solution elsewhere so i thought i'd post it here in case someone checks here first like me... I needed to install Windows Mobile Device Center to get the driver to work correctly with an active sync connection =)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jaszek:
I have W7 ultimate x64 and I can't flash either. But I don't mind. I just put the .nbh on the memory card, start up customRUU and it puts my phone in boot loader itself then installs the ROM off th ememory card.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mei_tatsujin:
even there's already a WMDC on win7, I tried to download it again from brothersoft, then it's update the driver..... done!

btw I'm using win7 x86, so I haven't tried on x64...

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I can't post a pic or link... :(
[G1 General] shagge68:
Just a thought... is it possible that we (XDA) could get a member of the OHA such as HTC (knowing they have a wiki already and are majorly banking on Android) or another vendor to "open a space" on their official wiki for us to host our ROM's? Something that has a clause in the membership stating that we agree that they have the right to incorporate anything that they want out of the developed ROM's into their own build and we get access to legally redistribute the Google apps as we are "members" of the vendor's development/testing team. Knowing the spirit of this community and the truly open attitude it supports I am sure this would be something that you all would be happy to agree with. This would protect the developers that have spent so much time making Android amazing and give the vendor an amazing "think tank" in action. This would basically give them hundreds or thousands of developers at no cost all innovating for themselves but contributing to the success.

**If you are a vendor reading...Just think of the great publicity your company would get for this small investment in the Android community**

This should allow us to continue to use XDA for most of our needs but give us a "safe place" to continue innovation.
[G1 General] NguyenHuu:
i have a feeling, htc would do the opposite and send out C&D letters to all the hero devs since they are distributing htc's close source apps such as all of its htc widgets and apps and sense ui itself.
[G1 General] shagge68:
Probably so but if we sell the idea of them having so many developers working on the project for free they might just jump.
[G1 General] jjcd51590:
As stated by some one else (i forgot who) just because we are in the oha doesent mean we have access to the closed source we would have to license it out **if** they allow us
[G1 General] shagge68:
I recall that statement but if we where "honorary members/developers" of/for the vendor then we could fall under the shadow of their ability to develop with/distribute Google's apps for "the vendor's" development testers (us).
[G1 General] jaaronmoody:
lock or merge please~~~~
[G1 General] shagge68:
With what???

This is a new idea that if gotten into the right inspired hands is another possibility that shouldn't get lost in the context of the other ideas.
[G1 General] gurnted:
XDA does not host any of the roms anyway. Whether normal activities can be conducted here is not really an issue. WinMo users have been doing the same thing here for a long time, and it is far from OS. The developers who choose to post links to their roms that contain questionable content do so at their own risk.

Also if you didn't notice, they already have us as a testing/development team. They can read this forum just like the rest of us. This is probably the reason most of what is done here is overlooked by folks like HTC. Even if we are a rather large user base, compared to the total # of Android users we are still only a few. They probably see it like "oh they got ahold of the Hero image huh? Too late to complain now. Just leave 'em be and let 'em hack at it a bit. Maybe they'll see or fix something we didn't" It's the better way to handle it PR wise.

Regardless of whether they mind what the end user is doing, I doubt HTC would be very willing to jump on board & slap google like that. We should probably leave that subject alone, and be glad they aren't complaining too.

Not that this isn't a good idea. I even suggested forming a group to join the OHA so we could attempt to license the apps, and be more in the loop. Just don't think HTC will go for it.
[G1 General] david1171:
Do you make any other kind of posts?

At the OP this would be good idea if we could pull it off
[G1 General] shagge68:
I have considered all of the facts you have listed which are valid points but if HTC wouldn't do it which I only used as an example some other vendor might do it. I just think that HTC is the preferred vendor as most of us use their equipment. This wouldn't be a slap to Google, it would be a way to endorse us as part of their development team.

By the way the OHA membership is a great idea. I think both options should be explored.
[G1 General] shagge68:
Any idea which Senior Members had connections inside HTC?

I work for a carrier and the HTC rep I deal with isn't the best to go to with something like this.
[G1 General] Gary13579:
Wrong forum, just because Dream Development is the most popular doesn't mean you post unrelated topics in it.
[G1 General] shagge68:
So where should something like this be posted???

The idea I am trying to get out there doesn't fit into anything else as it is geared to creating an Android development resource.

Something that if it somehow works saves us all from doing what we all do already illegally.
[G1 General] shagge68:
Never mind I guess. Looks like I got moved to the forum you saw fit.
[G1 General] Gary13579:
Honestly, it shouldn't even be posted :p.

Not to be rude, but something like this would probably never work. Who all are licensing the software from Google? HTC, Samsung, maybe one or two more? These are all gigantic corporations who would laugh at it, imho.

We would have a better chance of contacting Google and asking how much they want for a license, then starting a donation drive.
[G1 General] gurnted:
Yeah I guess I could see someone stepping up to support this. All they would have to do is give permission to mod their roms. They could then look like the good guys who give their users a choice. I could see it now "Don't like our stock build of Android? Try one of these, or make your own." Now that would be the move to make for one of these companies who claim their phones are all about being "user customizable"

This stands a way better chance than the other option though.
[G1 General] shagge68:
I don't disagree that we should gun for a license but like I said previously I work for a carrier and I believe they would go for something like this but I figure that a vendor would be a more likely target.
[G1 General] shagge68:
You nailed it on the head!!! Thank you for "getting it". Now the question is how to get this idea beyond XDA
[G1 General] Gary13579:
It'd require more effort from the vendor. They would have to be the ones distributing the ROMs to users, not us.

I doubt the carriers would have the license to distribute the software. Since it's essentially the vendor who installs the proprietary apps on them, I don't see the point to carriers having it.

And all of this is ignoring the fact that we don't even know the terms of the contract/license. It could very well be against the terms of either to do something like this.
[G1 General] gurnted:
A lot of carriers, and manufacturers have someone doing PR on most of the major social networks. Maybe you should try shooting some of them a line and see where it leads. Might at least get the message to someone who can get something like this worked out.
[G1 General] jaaronmoody:
not lately :rolleyes: but i believe the threads that i "point out" whether posting a reply or not, get locked/moved about 90%+. I have made good and bad posts in the past, mainly trying to help out where i can , when i can , with what i can. I may not be a dev now, but that doesn't negate the fact that many other threads should not be started in the dev forum.
[G1 General] shagge68:
Good point! I will start to work that angle and maybe their contact us links on their websites and see where that lands.
[G1 General] gurnted:
In the manner suggested here, the vendor would distribute the software from their own site.

The carriers distribute the software as well. This is why some carriers get Dreams "with Google" and others get HTC firmware. HTC doesn't push T-Mo OTA updates. They hold their own license so they can customize it before distribution.

Okay so if it is, we find another route. Not knowing is no reason to not give it a shot. A "why bother" attitude never gets much accomplished. If someone wants to try to build better relations with a vendor/carrier for us, go for it.
[G1 General] gurnted:
I understand your annoyance with misplaced threads, and understand you feel the need to express it. You really could just report the thread without posting. It doesn't need a comment every time. I could understand posting with your view on the topic while adding a comment about it being misplaced. However, by posting only to complain you are just as much off topic, and thereby pollute the community even more. So now people have to read you say the same thing the mod will say if they feel the need.

And now it has several off topic posts. See what it leads to;)
[G1 General] shagge68:
90% of the time or not; it seems that this thread that is attempting to assist in the development licensing of our versions of Android has been removed from the eyes of those who care most about what happened recently though threads that are listed in development simply to vent and/or say thank you to the people that already know we feel that way remain in that thread.

I am just as if not more appreciative of the long hard hours the dev guys spend on this open community but if a thread "needs to stay on topic" then my thread seems more closely related than some other recent ones.

Either way you got your way.

From here on out guys let's stay on topic. I would love to hear from some insiders with the vendors as I know some of you must spend time here on XDA. Any tips on getting this in the right hands is much appreciated.
[G1 General] shagge68:
Spot on! This would put it all on the vendor's license.
[G1 General] ~~Tito~~:
If google does "sell" this license, it should be held by the XDA site not just one person, so everyone can use Google's proprietary apps, kernal, or what ever.

Would that work?
[G1 General] shagge68:
Thanks for your response, if the XDA group can get a license great but that is the topic in another thread. I am hoping to find a way to allow developers to use a vendor's rights to the app licenses so we don't have to obtain one. This way Google can't gripe, the vendor gets some great reviews, and the developers are safe.
[G1 General] ~~Tito~~:
Which thread has that topic lol :p.

I wish HTC would come with its hammer to show google that it included its apps in the Hero, Magic(or Mytouch by T-Mobile),Dream(G1 by T-mobile), and say that it will allow the use of those things from google using their license :rolleyes:.
[G1 General] gurnted:
I posted a poll yesterday suggesting a group be formed for xda devs & joining the OHA. Apparently it was deleted for not being development related enough for the development section. Seems rather odd seeing as how I've never had a thread moved, deleted, or even been warned for a misplaced post. I guess someone really didn't like the idea.

Last time I checked it though, the results were showing that most were in favor of doing so.
[G1 General] gtrplr71:
I thinks it's worth a shot do it. this fella is always trying to close threads that's all he does. Don't be googlish! self proclaimed mod.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fogozito:
i have search and installed multiple packeages and the youtube panel, but i have one issue my xperia cant play videos in high res mode, can someone help me out please?
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] orelsi:
CorePlayer streams YouTube vids with perfect quality.
[General Questions and Answers] chumby:
Help all,

I am trying to connect my 8502 to my pc to sync files etc. I am using Vista/Windows Mobile Device Center. WM 6.1 on the pda.

When I run the software... it says device not connected.

When I plug in the device a window pops which says "Find driver for serial device". I search but it cant find anything....

Any ideas at all? This is driving me mad.

Thanks

Chumby
[General Questions and Answers] timwb:
No Activesync

I have had this problem on a recently purchased 8502, I upgraded the rom to WM6.1 and the phone is no longer ecognised by pc at all. Having looked through the programs on the phone and browsed the directories on the device, I cannot find activesync on the phone at all! The only hint is an empty folder, but there is no executable for activesync anywhere, which would probably explain why so many ppl can't get thier 8502's to connect to thier pc's after upgrading!

We need an activesync.cab to install!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] drkfngthdragnlrd:
Here are the T-Mobile MyFaves & TF3D Packages from the T-Mobile ROM for the Rhodium (aka Touch Pro2). Don't know if you need this specific TF3D to get MyFaves working, I noticed there are no flash files & missing EXE's so it looks to be only for TF3D, not standalone. So I won't be working more on these packages. Working on getting a Dump from the DASH 3G that might have a usable standalone MyFaves that'll work in CHome aka Titanium. Feel free to use & release as you like.

Rhodium T-Mobile MyFaves & TF3D Packages & Certs.7z
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] drkfngthdragnlrd:
LMAO, proof HTC takes stuff we do & puts it in their ROM's. Here are Titanium CPR's straight from the T-Mobile Dash 3G full Test Stock ROM. They have Titanium Weather/Opera Favs/& ATFavpeople Layouts, lmao. BTW why does a QVGA WM 6.1 device have VGA Titanium CPR's?!?!?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jmckeejr:
Is there a way to use this stuff? Can we just copy the cpr files into windows? I know there would require some registry entries for some items to work, but I would like to see what they have done. Also, does the MyFaves stuff work on devices that are not T-Mobile? TF3D is for WVGA correct?

And while I have you here, I know you have an understanding of .cpr and cHome stuff(maybe you should get CPR certified LOL) I need some help with a question. I want to make the settings panel work, have tried enabling it via registry, but I am pretty sure I need something in the .cpr files. Care to help?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] drkfngthdragnlrd:
These packages are specifically for T-Mobile & it's MyFaves service. This specific one only includes a GUI for TF3D on a WVGA device. If you don't have T-Mobile & a MyFaves enabled account, this'll do nothing for you.

I'm working on another package from the T-Mobile Dash 3G that'll have a MyFaves Flash GUI & CHome Plugin. Right not just having issues getting it to update the contacts from the server.

Screen Shot's from my HTC Kaiser (AKA AT&T Tilt);

As for the Settings tab, I believe the above attached CPR's have the VGA Settings Layouts. Convert to your resolution. For the reg, attached here is a CAB with the registry fixes. There's only 3 working pages.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jmckeejr:
Well damn, no MyFaves for me then :( Thenks for the help w/ settings panels. I will have a look and see what I can do. I did see someone has a cSettings plugin, so if it has the same features it will be easier to just use that :)

So I'm guessing you must be on T-Mobile. What you have there looks promising. Sure wish I could have that panel on my Fuze. Have you converted your cHome to VGA?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] drkfngthdragnlrd:
Yup, I used the CPR resolution converter & no complaints on it from anyone. So, take it that it works. Also, yes, I am a T-Mobile user. Having this app is a must. I can access & change my Fav 5 anytime I want & never need to visit T-Mobile's website to do so.

CSettings is actually better, gives you shortcuts to any setting you want. The built in Settings plugin only had 5 & 2 were for Smartphones so on PPC's, only 3 work or should I say worth getting to work lol. The author also has CLauncher/CS2P/CGames and some other plugins.

As for MyFaves, supposedly the software is supposed to disable itself if you don't have the service, although I have here of people being able to use it as a 5 contact quick shortcut. Basically meaning say you got 5 people you stay in contact with the most, call/text/email/what ever, I've heard of people getting it to work as a shortcut for those 5 contacts instead of having to dig through the entire contact list. It just won't have the ability to sync with the service online which mainly is for T-Mobile users, also unlimited minutes to those 5 people.
[G1 Android Development] bob50963:
Below are steps to increase your real ram by about 10%. Imagine your hero rom having about 10% more ram to work with!

Download bootimg:http://www.mediafire.com/?dvwmwyit4yn

Directions to install are below

Copy the bootimg on to your sdcard.

Go into recovery console and enter the commands below.

mount sdcard (enter)

mount system (enter)

flash_image boot /sdcard/boot.img (enter)

reboot

or install using Fastboot

Copy the bootimg on to your sdcard.

Go into fastboot and enter this command: fastboot flash boot bootmem.img

Check to see if your ram upgrade worked enter the below in terminal

su (enter)

cat /proc/meminfo (enter)

supposedly we are missing 18m of ram. we can have 128m. Lets figure out how to get that back? :-D

UPDATE :

Attachment:

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=232380&d=1254152183
[G1 Android Development] alritewhadeva:
whats there to work out? Huanyu has already done it
[G1 Android Development] bob50963:
We need a tutorial. This is big and really no one knows about it. This is not swap we are talking about here. We are talking about real ram not virtual. This could help us with our roms.
[G1 Android Development] zhang yixi:
····

How to do it?
[G1 Android Development] ~~Tito~~:
If this works with no strings like(radio wont work as good or something like that), then I am all for it.
[G1 Android Development] bob50963:
I think that is an issue if you recover to much ram. So far no complaints on using 106-109MB. If you use to much I think your phone will keep restarting its self until you change back the setting or flash a new rom.
[G1 Android Development] ~~Tito~~:
Yea that's what I was reading like if you want like 15% more or something along those lines. :p

How does it run? Nothing noticeable right?
[G1 Android Development] bob50963:
If your running Hero I am sure its noticeable. We are talking about 10% more real ram. Even though we have 10% more we might still need to use swap. But swap sucks its virtual.

Edit:

Yes its reversible.
[G1 Android Development] ~~Tito~~:
Yea we still need to use swap since its a lot of stuff to handle. The Hero has 288mb ram, and we have a bit more than 1/2 of that.

Is it reversible if it goes into a bootloop?
[G1 Android Development] daproy:
I recompiled cyanogen's kernel with the change in board-trout.c to

mi->bank[0].size = (106*1024*1024);

and it boot looped as soon as the gpu was initialized. I am not sure how much ram you can actually squeeze out without stepping into the gpu's allocated space. I might give some other values a try tonight.
[G1 Android Development] dwang:
I'm running alla's mt3g ROM which has the extra ram hack on my mt3g and its running great.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=555499

Its just as fast as cyanogen's ROM and the extra RAM is definitely noticeable.

Where you can see the difference is browser refresh. Alla's ROM has compcache enabled by default just like cyanogen's ROM, but the browser refreshes much less frequently than CY's ROM. I'm also noticing foreground apps run smoother when music is streaming in the background.

I'm hoping cyanogen will incorporate this into his future releases. I haven't noticed any stability issues with this hack. Of course I've only been running it for a day or two. But so far, its been stable.
[G1 Android Development] daproy:
Same results on G1 with:

mi->bank[0].size = (104*1024*1024);

reboots at:

D/SurfaceFlinger( 2240): pid 2248 requesting gpu surface (current owner = -1)
[G1 Android Development] maxisma:
Try 103. That should work.
[G1 Android Development] MLIGN:
you know how to do this?
[G1 Android Development] daproy:
Ok I've dug a little deeper and indeed on the G1 the GPU1 memory (8M) comes directly after the linux memory (101M). Following the GPU1 memory is the RAM CONSOLE memory (128K). There is no space space between them. Increasing the size of the bank overwrites GPU1 memory and that's why it will boot loop. The total memory defined in the EBI bank is 110M and that pretty much eats it up other than 896K.