yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hx4700 Killer:
So it has been a while since I have posted on this forum because I have been on a journey learning how to cook ROMs.

I have been going down this road trying to make a ROM with as much free memory as possible at startup (and just as important with the things I wanted in it) and I wanted to share a tidbit that I have learned with this group that I was just stunned to discover.

While working on my ROM I found that initial boot up, and unconfigured, it had 94MB of RAM free. Then I would set some reg entries and copy over some things (mostly app data related) and some other personalizations as well as shortcuts to items I had installed on the SD card. I couldnt figure out why I would drop to 88MB free after the file copy.

So I altering what I was copying over to memory I discovered it was the start menu icons. Taking this a step further I moved the entire start menu OUT of the windows folder to the SD card and soft reset.

To my utter amazement I had 109 MB free after that. I gained 15MB by emptying the start menu.

Thinking I had stumbled across something I went to post this on the CHEF's forum (but did a search for it on a thread talking about optimizing ROM's) and low and behold it was already there validating my find.

So why have I bothered you all with this info? If there is a program you don't use DUMP the start menu LNK file. If it is something you will put on the Sense shortcuts MOVE IT. That will mean using regedit to set the icon path on the sense tab etc.. say to \windows\blahblah.lnk rather than the start menu. You will save a TON of memory doing this!

Trust me when I say that FREE memory and the right tweaks to certain settings is all it takes to get sense to be incredibly smooth!

Hopefully this tip will save some of you from resetting daily ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] joseph881:
Glad I'm not the only one having this issue. My Screen On/Off via Proximity Sensor while on a call has stopped working for a while now, don't know why. I believe it started around the July 30th 21911 Cookie release and has continued since. If anyone has any quick fixes or suggestions, I'd appreciate it. If it comes down to it, I'll try to flash a Stock ROM to see if the problem lies in the hardware.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
If you're having trouble with the proximity sensor, then (sorry if this seems like a silly suggestion, but at least one person in this thread had this exact problem a while back) check it's not something simple like your phone's case or some dirt blocking the sensor.

The sensor is the little hole/space immediately to the left of the earpiece grille. Test it by making a test call (e.g. to Voicemail) with the phone held in front of you, and move a finger towards the sensor, when the screen should switch off, and then back on again when you move your finger away. Mine works fine.

Edit - attached a pic to try and help show where the proximity sensor is.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] buffalosolja42:
internet results

All tests I mentioned were ran with 1Mb. 2 Mb option didn't even show up, probably because my speed is too low.

All my tests were made with Opera. Even with the stock ROM, which had a better result, I was using Opera.

I just a few tests using IE (always running twice each situation to confirm):

- 1Mb: I got 1587 kbps and 1831 kbps.

- 3Mb: 2268 kbps and 2503 kbps.

- 5Mb: 3281 kbps and 3347 kbps.

It kept opening more options like 7Mb, but you already got the idea.

So, either IE is somehow cheating or being misreported by mobilespeedtest.com, or there is something pushing the brakes in Opera.[/QUOTE]

To everyone doing the ATT sorry if this message is too large first time doing multi-quote but I got the same results in opera 9.7 but ie and opera 10 report the same thing.... I also had this issue at my pc at work and home with a new mozilla beta, it looks like some browsers aren't accurate but if ie and opera 10 show the same maybe the opera 9.7 isn't accurate I will try skyfire on my lunch break and report because I have 0 service in my work place.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] TheByteSmasher:
WOWIEEEEEE! This New ROM (see my sig) Is Awesome! I changed the pagefile size to 14mb... Initially EVERYTHING ran like molasses... After a soft reset All was Smoooooooth! NOTE: Also discovered something intersting about NRG's Setting's exporter.. All this talk about corrupt SD cards and such, The settings exporter was giving me an error on export and not importing ON A CLEAN ROM FLASH, So I Moved everything off my card and Quick formatted it (FAT32) Then Moved everything back to it... (Suplementing the existing Exporter folder in XDA_UC with one I backed up to my PC) and Setting export worked like a charm!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] apache1:
Energy.RHODIUM.23673.Sense2.5.Cookie.Aug.06.7z is faster than the aug 10 rom.

This rom is the fastest energy rom yet imo

But it does have intermittent freeze issues occasionally.

Every morning when taken off the charger, its froze up solid. Soft reset gets things back to normal for the rest of the day usually.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] TheByteSmasher:
23673 Vs...

Actually after setting my pagepool down to 14 Mb and performing Task29 And Flashing the Aug 10 ROM.. I believe it is the most stable and fastest ROM to date (clearly imo). Lowering the pagepool and doing a clean install really sped everthing up!:eek:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] monomer888:
Browser-based speedtests don't seem to be that reliable, do they? :o I'm not sure if Skyfire is going to give you very useful information because it relies on getting compressed data via a proxy server. Does anyone know of any browser-independent benchmarking tools for internet speed? Surely something like that is more likely to give you some meaningful data?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kk0813:
I use Kinoma Play. In the settings if you select the Network, it will measure the current bandwidth and it shows 700 kbps. and from opera 10 from the same place I am getting 359kbps for 100kb, 1717 with 500kb and 1918kbps with 1mb test.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dancnpete:
sensefix.exe

My phone seems to be running a mortscript called sensefix.exe I think it comes up from my system restore method, but I can't find it anywhere in there. Does anyone know what this does, and why it doesn't seem to finish
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] TheByteSmasher:
Help Please I haven't found a way to add the restart sense quicklink to the start menu... I mess with my phone often to see if I can break it or if it's stable etc.,.. and often sense shuts down... I can use cht editor but I have to change a value to get sense to reload... can I add the quicklink for resart sense to the start menu like the soft reset shortcut?? Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kk0813:
While adding a quick link, select the program and scroll down a bit and you should see "Reset". This can be used for soft reset.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] serstylz2:
Aug 10th has been the best update for my phone so far.. I was running April 1st because every other one was constantly freezing.. so far only 1 reboot needed and I think it was my fault... its fast! Thanks

Question that I may try to find a RhodiumKBDControl-specific thread for instead... the April 1st release has been the only release so far in which I can point a hotkey at the side buttow the lower-volume key and open my camera, as well as take a picture with the camera using the same button. Since that release, I can only use that hotkey to load the camera application but not take a picture. Anyone know how/why? Any reg edits? Should I point the Launch Program tree somewhere specific for it to have the ability to take pictures? I aimed it at \Windows\Camera.exe and \Windows\Appbuttons\Camera.lnk, neither of them have the ability to take pictures once in the Camera app. Also, how do I turn off the camera from continuously autofocusing? I feel like that has something to do with it..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kk0813:
What was the default page pool before you changed to 14mb?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] TheByteSmasher:
start menu restart sense?

No, I mean I'm looking for a shortcut to the start menu to restart sense... not to soft reset
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] TheByteSmasher:
Default for Aug 10 is 20Mb... but upon initial boot I get nearly 15 mb more free!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kk0813:
Opps sorry. Instead of going to Programs, go to miscellaneous and you should see "Restart Sense".
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] TheByteSmasher:
Thanks... I appreciate the help but we're not syncing here... I want to add a shortcut to the START MENU like the quick link... When sense dies I can still access the start menu but obviously not the quicklinks...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
After seeing this post I thought I would try it. Initially, I copied \Windows\Start Menu\Programs to the storage card.

Then deleted \Windows\Start Menu\Programs

I added jut the folder back with none of the contents. Otherwise the start button doesn't do anything.

I soft reset and saw no improvement.

It may be the shell registry entries that point to the nice icons.

I am going to try deleting those entries.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] joseph881:
Thanks for the tip. Here's the weird thing I just found it, my proximity sensor does turn off the screen.... Here's the weird part when I put my bare skin up against the are, nothing happens, but I wiped my face with my shirt (I'm at home. lol) I had some shirt over the phone, and the screen turned off. I tried with my shirt wrapped out my finger, and it worked!, then I tried a piece of paper, it worked too. So my proximity sensor detects everything except what I want it to! It might be my screen protector, but I'm reluctant to take it off. Any more suggestions would be appreciated.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] buffalosolja42:
wow I guess I have to look at changing page pool with my current config (deleting start menu frees up like 20) if I change pagepool would give me another 15 wow!!! I may have to flash again after I research page pool, and backup everything xml wise (email).

Or is there a way to change pagepool without reflashing (and I am searching at the moment :) )

** Is this what everyone is using http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=323269 **
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wagool:
I agree that.And the 23673.cookie.Aug.06 battery life is so long to 3 days(24h).I'll stay at it for few days!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] TheByteSmasher:
Polling Interval Etc...

Have you checked out the advanced tools? Under Start|Tools there is a setting for the proximity sensor and for um... how dark it must be for it to consider the phone next to an ear... :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] TheByteSmasher:
Hmmmm...

I am going to have to register my disagreement... Battery life aside (Tons of ways to up or down it)... My Aug 6 23673 ROM Had 3 major issues that I would consider to affect speed... if you count useability of the phone as a desireable characteristic of speed... My phone would either freeze (2-3X daily) -AND/OR- Sense would shut down and NOT reload unpon soft reset -AND/OR- Applications would minimize randomly or outright quit randomly... Also arkswitch would mess the bed 2-3 times daily and I'd have just the windows Task Mgr... I tried all the fixes (SD card stuff, task29, reflash, not installing some progs etc) Nothing seemed to help... To me, rendering the phone barely useable or completly useless without a soft reset is certainly a factor I consider when considering speed. If I can get to Opera .5 Sec faster but I'll need to reload it twice or soft reset to get it to work... That is slower to me than the extra .5 sec and a working prog!

With my new ROM... NO ISSUES so far.:D:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dieggo:
how to Disable Sensor!

Does someone knows how to disable the proximity sensor ????

thanks a lot!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] TheByteSmasher:
Advanced tools

Read my previous thread... in advanced tools there is a setting option for the proximity sensor including disable... Assuming you are using an EnergyR0m...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] osu9400:
Is Titanium going bsckwards? The lastest build is Energy.RHODIUM.23128.Titanium.Aug.10.7z (which is 6.5.3). why is there no longer a 6.5.5 ROM? The current build has a bad refresh problem, as in the screen just fails to refresh.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] joseph881:
I played around with the value a few times with the same effect. I really don't want to but, I guess I'll have to remove the screen protector.

UPDATE: Just tried with my screen protector removed with the same result. Something else is wrong, no idea what though. I'm stumped.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stained-steel:
It's not the Start Menu item you are looking for, but you could try one of the EndKey replacement .cabs posted by johcos. They include a function to Restart Sense, as well as other useful functions as well (Enter Bootloader is my fave)...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jedah:
Funny you should mention this. I just tried this tweak recently.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=7578364#post7578364

Although I wasn't completely able to get it to work, I was able to disable the startmenu, I had about 109 MB on startup as well.. on a 23xxx rom!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] J-Hop2o6:
yea Mobile Browser-based Speedtest give INACCURATE RESULTS.. i thought most of ya'll knew that? the MOST ACCURATE is USB (or WiFi) Tethering to your computer and goin to speedtest.net to do the speed test.. look at my speed test in my sig below (done by USB tethering to my PC/32bit-Windows Vista)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] J-Hop2o6:
i always wondered if there was a way to add Restart Sense to the WM Start menu because SENSE locks up, so u cant access it.. only WM related UI u can navigate, like ArkSwitch, THEN WM Start Menu, then everything else WM related--i forget if apps will load from the WM start menu.

but anyways, does anyone know how to add "Restart Sense" to the WM Start Menu (quicker than goin to UI selecter in WM settings "Home").
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] TheByteSmasher:
Thanks for the tip. I just tried it but it broke my sense! It made no sense! I was rendered senseless! Moving on... It loaded fine and all but I tried to test it and hit the reload sense and the loading hung twice!... Guess I'm still waiting for some one to tell me how to put the quicklink on the start menu. :( Thanks again!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] J-Hop2o6:
i tried this and it did change the End Key.. BUT for some reason it also changed my Action Screen which i didn't like because i like the normal action screen cuhz i can quickly toggle things.. so is there a cab for ONLY EndKey?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sigma20xx:
The hard "end call button" doesn't take me to the home screen in Max Sense from the following areas.

Open text message.

Contacts list

Calendar

Wheather app

Facebook app

The settings menu and it's sub menus

Is there something I can do to fix this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hx4700 Killer:
Its just stunning to look at that number and see the free RAM is GREATER than the used isnt it?!

JVH3: I just tried it myself again and only gained a few MB so.. not sure what the story is but as I said, its documented in the Chef area on a thread talking about ROM optimization.

I hunted down the post: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7536906&postcount=13
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
WhoHoo!

Titanium is released! Burning now...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sagarc88:
clean Ram

I installed the Aug 10 23128 Cookie 'Energy' ROM and everything works flawlessly. This is veryy nicee ROM. THank you for this NRGZ28.

I have a problem that also happens in some of the other ROMs. I installed clean RAM v2.2 (the newest one) and it always freezes when i try to run it. So is there anyone who is using Clean Ram that can post the settings they have. In Menu> Advanced/GUI , i have HTC Sense selected. that is the only option i have changed from the way it is set by default. Thank you :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] osu9400:
I am having problems with screen refreshes on the August 10 23128 Titanium build on my tilt 2. Nothing locks up, but the screen refuses to refresh. Curious if you are having the same problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
After deleting the registry entries at HKLM\Security\Shell\StartInfo\Start, and soft resetting, I gained about 10 MB.

After a soft reset with the August 10th Cookie 23128 and Voice Command added, I have 80 MB free.

But, now all my icons are ugly.

I am going to be hard resetting, so I can get them back.

XDA_UC sets everything up, so it's not a big deal.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] raz1337:
Interesting. I just took a picture, sent it by email to someone, and during the sending, the phone freezes, while the email still got sent.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] NRGZ28:
And you're polluting my thread with this crap why ? Pretty obvious it's how microsoft coded the application. Not like I can wave my magic wand and change microsoft's code !! Complain to them if you dont like that their application posts updates when you install it.... :mad:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] NRGZ28:
\

I'd rather have pretty icons and lose 10 megs. Thank yoooouuuu :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] legalizaya:
Titanium

I´m having problems with the Titanium HomeScreen, I never see it, when I go home it shows the last thing I was looking at.

This is happening in:

Energy.RHODIUM.23128.Titanium.Aug.10.7z

Energy.RHODIUM.23128.Sense2.5.Cookie.GTX.Aug.10.7z (When I disable sense and select Windows Default)

Anybody knows how to fix this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jedah:
Did you try OCMan's start menu replacement?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=711914

Most of my icons were unaffected (except the settings icons it created to show up in Sense's program list).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] osu9400:
Similar problems here on Tilt 2. No idea how to fix.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] NRGZ28:
Can you guys be more explicit ? Does the screen not load or something ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] legalizaya:
The Titanium home screen never appears
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jpoirier587:
did you make sure agps is enabled because its turned off by default

start>settings>system>AGPS Settings
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jamiewalshe:
hey, apologies if its already been mentioned but ive had a search and not found anything helpful, is there anyway to get a custom (or, any different) wallpaper and still have the animated weather? on the 21877 build.

thanks a lot
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] esincho:
Uh, yeah, this is the Leo thread.. Oh well
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jpoirier587:
did you make sure agps is enabled because its turned off by default

start>settings>system>AGPS Settings

also in google maps hit menu>use gps

make sure you run the quick gps tool as well

this is commen sense but you did try this outside right. gps doesnt work to well inside a house or building
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kmx:
Has anybody been able to successfully install manila tv yet? I've been trying to an 1 hour and still I haven't been able to do it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jpoirier587:
you had to go all the way back to 2 pages ago to see that hdwall works

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=503511&highlight=hdwall
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jpoirier587:
as far as i can tell it has to be cooked into the rom for it to work. someone correct me if im wrong
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Symmetric:
I love the new ROM's, one question though; is it possible to get the new bootscreen without the final frame (i.e. with just the HTC: quietly brilliant and then the Windows phone frames w/o the final windows phone/energyROM frame) it just looks a bit more stock without that final frame. needless to say, it's not a big deal, but just a request.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dizzyraider:
You are correct. The page for Manila TV says that for Sense/Manila 2.5, it needs to be cooked in.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alik4041:
Thanks for the help. Just read the issues from the OP's other thread which has the same issue. Here's the fix.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4422331&postcount=6
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] npahlavan:
Quick question:

I installed this ROM on my touch pro 2 (GSM). Everything appears to work fine. Is this ok to do since the ROM says Leo?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alik4041:
Everyone here is on gsm touch pro 2's also, so you're fine :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sumflipnol:
Yes, this ROM is for the GSM Rhodium aka GSM Touch Pro2. The ROM is just based off of the HTC Leo (HD2) phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] twiggy114:
is everything working in landscape mode? or are things not yet fixed for that.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] loso_718:
Great ROM mr. NRG!

My only question is has anyone had any delays on sending SMS?? Some go through instantly and theres times where it wouldnt send for hours without me calling at&t to test it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jpoirier587:
landscape can never be "fixed" because it doesn't exist for manila 2.5. rotastrain has a good start on a solution though
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] twiggy114:
Oh I thought I had seen screen shoots like 1-2 pages back that looked like it was working.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jpoirier587:
lol that would be rotastrain's solution i referenced last post. its not pretty but for the most part it gets the job done

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=588476
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] zard:
I just started to have Sbsh Phoneweaver with 28008 build. Phoneweaver can start once and after, trying to launch it will fail. A SR will solve this problem.

First time this problem occured was with Shadowline's topaz roms. It doesn't happen all the time.

With Rhodium, I started to get it with Valkyrie's 28008 build ROM. 28009 build still have same problem.

It shouldn't be incompatibilty as it doesn't happen all the time. Hope you can solve this. Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jebuske:
I just installed 16 shortcuts on my homescreen but now the action-key has gone. Any solutions on this one?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] osu9400:
When you try to go to the home screen, you get the top (signal meter, battery, clock) and bottom (windows button in bottom left) home screen bars , but the main panel between the bars does not refresh. the main panel still shows what was on the screen before.

It is evident from the beginning. The ROM will ask you to select your service provider (I use ATT) and the progress bar goes to 100% and the screen doesn't refresh (except for the top/bottom status bars).

It is unusable.

The issue exists in both ROMs I have tried today:

- Energy.RHODIUM.23128.Titanium.Aug.10.7z

- Energy.RHODIUM.23128.Sense2.5.MaxSense.Aug.10.7z