yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dineshh:
WinMo is best

Not to start an argument. But Tell me since wm 2003 upto wm 6.5.x, the flexiblity, customization, tweaks and the large collection of application freeware and paid running in millions, have made WinMo the best product. Iphone etc are multimedia phones not PDA or PPC. If you find TP2 slow, its because of 528MHz processor.

All android devices since Nexus 1 are hit maybe desite etc because they have 1GHz processor. If you had same in TP2 imageine its speed.

So nothing to beat WinMo:o
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dibeachdude:
I think almost all of the members that spend a little time on XDA would agree with you, but sadly, the people that need to read your recommendations will never get around to it. In general, your target audience wants a quick fix for everything that happens in their lives. Problems are always someone else's fault and are never caused by something that they may have done. They do not appreciate help; they expect it. They cannot be bothered with details such as reading an faq or conducting a simple search. I have even seen people who ask for their questions to be answered by sending them a private message; I suspect that they are too lazy to actually read the thread to see if their question has been answered. For these users, providing pertinent information such as ROM version, apps installed, etc. is unnecessary because we all know that the members are psychic and know more about a stranger's phone than they do their own. Asking one of these people not to complain and to be civil is akin to asking them hold their breath for an hour. So, I truly doubt that any of the whiners, complainers, or lazy people will ever get around to reading your post. Even if your recommendations were listed in a popup window that required the user to read them before posting, without reading one single word, they would quickly begin looking for a button to press that would make the message go away. Please know that I agree with you in every respect, but I can respectfully say that you are preaching to the choir.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
LETS GO BACK TO TOPIC PLEASE

This discussion of WM vs. iPhone vs. Android is interesting but is off-topic.

You guys may want to create a thread for it, but this is not the place.

Thank you
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deeznuts:
I agree bro not to go off topic anymore but will respond with this and this only. What u can do on this device u can also do on an iphone in reality. WM we install cabs, iphone u install apps, we have amazing developers here that make their own apps/cabs for other to enjoy for free, same thing with iphone in their own app store for free stock, we can flash custom roms after unlocking our phone, u can customize whatever u want on iphone after jailbreaking it, all same difference in reality. Yes u can install CHT on a stock shipped rom but in reality who do u know that does that? No one would even know about cht without searching for it and/or being a member here and after seeing all the glory this wonderful site/community has to offer u think theyre gonna say "Wow, i really love this stock shipped rom and the only thing i need is to install cht." Yes u can customize the hell out of the UI on WM and u can also to some extent on iphones but what developers have been around longer, WM hackers or iphone hackers? More and more peeps our coming out of the wood work learning and hacking iphones especially now they're getting more mainstream. To each their own on what they want to do but my point still stands, WM is behind on the times and their deleopment just as they always have been. Android popped up already becoming more advanced then WM from day one and iphone is obviously becoming more advanced as well. Iphone and android (well maybe android) arent fades that are just gonna be around for a bit and flop because WM is the road warrior and will topple them. If anything WM is just getting more and more outdated each day that passes.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] M_T_M:
There goes the neighborhood!

Well..it's oficial...this thread is going to crap thanks to all of the off-topic talk and now..IPhone disscussion :mad:

Please guys...back to topic...I don't mind a joke or two...the ocasional flaming of the noob but this is getting ridiculous.

There is an Off-Topic section that you guys can go to and disscus how to raise your kids, have a more productive garden and how to properly dispose of your IPhone...but not here.

We've been warned by NRG about this issue and so far no bans have happened...don't tempt him :eek:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] electrikjesus:
NRG- Yesterday, on IRC you stated you were booting in 3 sec, Where could I pick up this rom for rhodium? Have you yet to release it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deeznuts:
Totally agree and im sure ill still get some ihater posters to respond just as i did when i was closed minded but not after using WM since the 8525 (htc hermes) came out til today on the tilt2 and trying out the new iphone and seeing the possibilities/performance/hardware/etc. Just stating my opinion is all, just personally dont see a bright future for WM the way its been going.

Anyways, back on topic. Any found bugs on these new roms, input/questions? lol. Well there isnt any, roms are flawless, thread closed!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rruffman:
I am not sure i think it just enables the conversation mode as the install is very quick and all my settings and emails were still there after the install..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] madx01:
Max sense UI

Not sure if I am missing something... I saw the tweet saying all roms updated and almost all uploaded for 7/21 release, but I cannot seem to find the updated max sense rom just the one dated 7/16. Help please.....

Thank you,
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] torrent_2004:
"Back" lag from viewing contacts

Since the responses to this issue was overwhelming (just kidding! Did not see any), and there is a new ROM release, so I debug some

Steps:

a)	Standard flash with FlashaholicsRUU utility

b)	Set up Active Sync login into exchange server

c)	Sync “contacts” only until completion (versus contacts+emails+calendar+task all in one shot)

d)	Check for lag - None or very little – everything works great even with 500+ contacts.

e)	Add “calendar” – sync to completion

f)	Check for lag – None or very little – so far so good

g)	Add “E-mail” - Stop sync after about 10 emails

h)	Big time lag – 15s-20s as noted in issue statement

i)	Continue with email sync to completion of ~160+ emails.

j)	Same lag observed.

k)	Disable MS Direct Push

l)	Same lag observed

So, the lag issue I am experiencing in “people” sense tab and/or “quick link contacts” seems to do with email sync, but 10 or 100s emails, or disable email pushed (afterward) did not make any difference.

Now, have to figure out how to fix this - Hum! I need work email access…..

Any thought?

(Can't believe it is already ~400 posts since mine in less than 2days).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] art3mis-nyc:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ rthat right there is why having the roms updated in the change log is a good thing ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deeznuts:
This si currently the only issue i see/notice on this com3 build sense 2.5 cht dinnik version on my tilt2 device. Seems clean ram's summery of free ram after a clean wont match the task manager whether it be arkswitch or htc task manager. For some reason either task manager only will show a change of 3-5mb of more free ram when obviously thats not the case after a clean and clean ram says it freed up 20mb of free ram. Is anyone using clean ram on their phone? Does this happen to anyone else? Not a big issue, just cant see why the task manager wont reflect what clean ram is reflecting?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deeznuts:
Again people, im sure it will update soon. Who knows, maybe the creater of this max sense is coming out with an updated version soon and NRG is waiting for that before he updates? U dont know and im sure NRG doesnt see it his duty to explain that to the masses.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigWopHH:
Another +1 here. Having the same issue.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] madx01:
Art3mis, if you are going to try and be a smartass with your replies to questions, you should probably research what you say before posting.... FYI, here are the last 2 changelogs..... (neither of which are located in the DL file for Max Sense)

Changelog

July 21st, 2010

•Official 6.5.3 build from the Huashan 23121! Fast !!!

•Bold fonts are gone.. fonts restored to 'normal'

•Lockscreen delays on unlocking are gone..

•Tweaked Sense refresh timeout so there's no "drop to homescreen" on startup

•Settings birthdays for mid 2000's issue fixed

•Startup routine slimmed down some more

•New startup routine with progress bar (only for rhodium, leo, topaz and imagio)

•Sense 2.5 skin for Windows Media Player (thanks to toadlife)

•TCPMP landscape skin

•Cleaned up TPMP skin a bit

•Rolled back Audiobooster for WVGA devices to be able to save presets

•TCPMP Volumeoverlay reg entry added (thanks slayerns)

•HTCLockScreen_2_0_20171132_00 added to 23121 build ! Android style unlock screen with PIN working

•Added IE6Enhancement_1_0_20163010_0 for the visual history feature in IE

•Added Advanced WIFI information package from Huashan. Accessible from Settings/Connections/Wifi

•Added new WifiWizard (accessible from the comm manager)

•Added HTCStartUp_1_7_0_0

•Added FM_Radio_2_5_20171525_00 (nice, modern skinned FM Radio, Leo only for now)

•Updated Opera browser

•New Connection Setup database with a lot more providers.

•Updated the following packages from the latest Huashan ROM:

•BrowserSnapshot_1_0_20163010_0

•Contact_Picker_1_0_20163220_00

•SharedResource_1_0_20162530_00

•HTCFramework_1_7_20163525_00

•Full_Screen_Player_1_8_20171624_00 (Leo Only)

•HTCGeoService_1_0_20162730_00

•GroupEditor_1_0_20163833_00

•HTCBookmark_1_0_20163010_0

•Shared_Modules_1_01_20153030_00

•CMInternetSharing_1_2_B_0

•Random_Access_4_2_20171126_0

•SimContactImport_3_4_20171128_00

-----------------------------------------------------------

July 17th, 2010

•New 23673 build, that's as fast or faster than COM2 21911, definitely faster than 23569...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] serstylz2:
Updated sig as you were typing that.. I'm running a Tilt2 no worries
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] itguy28:
Threaded Email

hey rruffman i tried to install this cam and i get this error,"Installatio was unsuccessful. the program or setting cannot be installed because it does not have sufficient system permissions"? is it that the cab is bad? i really would like threaded emails back.. ive looked for cabs and none of them work. can anybody else help?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
He uses a HD2, so the comparison is not fair. The ROM he made available for us using the Rhodium is "the same" ROM, but we have a hardware limitation. Don't hold your breath waiting to see a 3 second boot.

It has been posted here over and over and over again. No MaxSense ROM yet. It will come when it will come. PEOPLE IF YOU DON'T FIND THE ROM ON THE DOWNLOAD LINK EITHER IT DOES NOT EXIST, OR IT IS BEING UPLOADED. STOP POSTING ASKING ABOUT IT!

I have 23121 CHT and I do not experience this lag. I wonder if the fact that you are using CHT 1.7 on top of Reference could be causing it. Another possibility is having a "damaged" contact that is causing the phone to struggle reading it.

I know you won't like my suggestions, but...:

1- Flash 23121 CHT and test with it. If the problem persists, it is likely the issue is with your contacts

2- To find out if the contacts are the issue, go to Outlook, make a backup of you contacts. Then, split them in half, and delete the bottom half from Outlook. Perform a hard reset on the phone and synchronize it. Test. If it works fine, the offender could be in the bottom half, if not, it is in the upper half. Perform another hard reset, and in Outlook take the suspected half, and cut it in half.

3- Keep repeating the process until you zero in on the offender entry. See if there is something visibly wrong with it to learn about the problem, and then delete it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
I already confirmed the issue and added it to the bug log. Meanwhile, use the Sense People tab, as it works fine from there.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] art3mis-nyc:
read back a few pages and you'll find me mentioning that it would be helpful to include what roms were updated with each changelog.

perhaps you should try not to be offended and a smart ass without researching your own little complaint ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joshwah:
How come when I dise the dinik, the data connection on my phone keeps going on automaticly?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
Could you clarify what you mean? If you are saying that you disable data connection and it is enabling by itself, it may be some application is doing it as it needs to access data.

I never tried it, but search for a program called MoDaCo_NoData.CAB Supposedly it will block your data connection from being activated.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] lufc:
Yes it does and here is the cab matey :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] derylmccarty:
Originally Posted by Phytrax I've noticed a very odd bug in the July 21 version of Dinik 23xxx. When I pull up the contacts screen, the little alphabet along the right side of the screen that lets you jump to any letter, doesn't work properly. Almost all of the letters just take you to Z, lol. V works correctly and a few others but not many.
​

Originally Posted by BigWopHH Another +1 here. Having the same issue.
​

I already confirmed the issue and added it to the bug log. Meanwhile, use the Sense People tab, as it works fine from there.

MMalka: Add both 23121 and 21911 Sense 2.5 Cookie to the bug log too. Installed 23121 yesterday, discovered bug while driving, used the Sense 2.5 People tab as workaround. Installed 21911 last night and after WMDC sync this morning discovered same issue. Suspect as you probably do that this is a WM or Office Mobile issue.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hx4700 Killer:
The standard Sense 2.5 21911 isnt doing this.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] torrent_2004:
Hello mmalka,

Can't try your suggestion at the moment, but will tonight.

Notes:

1) I have seen this lag in regardless of cooked versions - e.g. 23xxx, 21xxx, CHT, MaxManila, Reference, etc...

2) I did notice that contacts that do NOT have email addresses (phone only) do not have such lag - so it seems some type of indexing linkage between people favorite and quicklink contact views to email. I can understand that 100s email would take a while, but at only 10, problem already showed up.

3) No lag if there is NO exchange emails or emails sync.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cespo:
.....

1) i have the latest rom (as u could read in my signature i tried ALL the energy)

2) if you read more maybe you`ll notice i am not the only one.

3) if you don`t know is ok, nobody is PERFECT..... maybe smb else can help....

4) thank you anyway!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
It's NOT lockdevice.exe, it's gwes.exe. Boot up fresh and check your free RAM/gwes.exe size. Let the lockscreen activate just once, and check back your free RAM/gwes.exe, and you'll see what I'm saying.

You'll easily lose 6MB+, and gwes.exe will grow to monstrous proportions!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
What you just said just confirms my suspicion that you may have a corrupt record somewhere. I NEVER experienced such lags, and I've been using cooked ROMs for over 2 years now. I always synchronize with Outlook (e-mail, contacts, and calendar). I have several contacts with and without e-mail addresses.

I am sorry, but you will have to dig a lot to sort this out...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deeznuts:
Sorry bro, my bad. Just got off working graveyard shift, half awake. Still though, for bluetooth to not even turn on sounds very odd. Only thing i can recommend is flash task29, clear the application data folder on ur sd card, flash the rom again, hard reset, then try it out of the box. Sucks bro i know, i use bluetooth 90% of the time im talking on the phone, its a must! Hope this helps or maybe someone else can so u dont have to do all these steps but at least this a sure way to try it from scratch. Hope this helps some.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
1- I don't remember seeing anyone lately complaining about BT and the FM radio. There were some people complaining about BT connection to car kits a while ago, but I believe that was already resolved. The only thing I believe BT and FM could have in common is the Radio. Did you try a different Radio?

2- Unless I am going blind, your signature does not mention your ROM and does not provide any useful information. Just saying "flashing all of them" is way too vague.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] buffalosolja42:
Alarm routing question

is there anyway to enable it to when I click on the clock (standard energy 2.5) and the time (add city) tab and alarm tab that when I tap alarm tab it opens my Galarm? Just a question I would like to be able to remove Galarm as a shortcut since I primarily use it for alarms. Thanks in advanced guys.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deeznuts:
Wifi Help for a Newb Please

I've never used wifi in my life, never needed to since i don't own a laptop yet and have unlimited data plan on my device. I just found out right now this whole time my modem in my house is also a wifi router! So i tried wifi for the first time on my phone and can't seem to get it working. This is what i do:

1. Open comm manager, hit wifi on to turn it on, now it's on and i get the blue icon on top in the task bar.

2. Now i tap the rectangle box that says Wifi, connect to wifi

3. Now im on the wifi screen and it shows my wifi network named 2WIRE604 with full green bars and a lock icon on it.

4. I now tap the network and come to a screen that shows full green bars on signal strength, Security: Wep and the code, and the options to connect to this wifi or forget network.

5. I now tap connect to network, it does its thing and goes to previous wifi screen and now where the lock icon is there is a green check mark assuming now im connected to wifi and the icon on task bar is also still blue.

6. Now i open opera mini 4, no internet connection right away. Open IE, opera mobile, doesn't matter, no internet connection. I check comm manager and still see im connected with full bars but now the data connection is turned off.

Is data connection suppose to be turned off since im getting data from wifi and not the att network? I ask because when i try to turn data connection on while connected to wifi it won't let me. It turns on for a moment, connects, then disconnects from data connection right away as it connects. What am i doing wrong to not get wifi working for internet connection?

I would love for this to work in my home since this is really the only place in all Socal i get crap data service, in my house! But throughout my house wifi on my phone shows full bars so obviously when im home i can connect to this on my device for fast internet, in theory at least i would think?

Sorry im a newb to wifi, never had to use it before or have tried it before. Appreciate any help on this please.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deeznuts:
Now after pressing data connection 10+ times to get it to connect it finally is turned on as well as wifi still connected to the router with full bars on wifi. But still i cannot connect to internet on any internet apps. I have the H symbol on the task bar above the service bars, comm manager shows i have data connection on and wifi on and wifi shows im connected to my router with full bars wifi reception. This is confusing, lol!

Also if this helps when im on the wifi screen i hit the right soft key that says advanced, now i have some options of adaptor and networks, wifi info, ip and mac best wifi performance on/off toggle, and enroll whatever that means. I have best wifi performance turned on. When i go to wifi info it shows full green gars siginal quality, SSID with 2WIRE604, Mode Infrastructure, BSSID info, Tx Rate of 54Mbps (is this my current wifi speed? That would be amazing!), Rx Rate 1Mbps, Channel 1.

Update:

Now data connection keeps turning itself back off on its on and when trying to turn back on via comm manager it connects then just as fast disconnects itself. Wifi info all stays the same, still connected with full strength, im like 3 feet away from the router, lol. Dang this is a circus, any ideas on what im doing wrong/missing here? Seems this wifi is dummy proof with the setup and options, all sefl explantory on the phone it seems and it seems im doing this right but idk? Obviously not if i can't connect to the internet on my device while connected via wifi, lol.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] adhawkins:
Could be a setting in your Wireless Router that's stopping traffic going through it except for certain allowed devices?

Also, did you type in the WEP key? If not, you'll appear connected but packets won't get through the encryption correctly.

Andy
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cespo:
ok, ok... i have the energy july 21 th at the moment and i will change it as soon as the new one will come out...

Anyway sorry to have bother you... i found the problem:

Tomtom 7 changes some file ( only if installed on the phone and NOT on the SD) and the bttray.exe is no longer working.... this is the reason why bluetooth and FM radio are not working.. trying to fix it.

thanks againg
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] serstylz2:
any hints on battery status bar
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deeznuts:
No, what wep key? I've never used my wifi home router so know nothing about it. How would i do this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
I have TT7 installed on the phone. The only thing on the card is the map. TTom does not interfere with FM or BT.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] lufc:
You are better of reading the manual that came with your router :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
I am not sure what you are looking for. On the 23xxx the battery status shows on the notification bar. It has been showing as long as I can remember. I haven't used 21xxx in ages, so I cannot remember if it shows there, but based on NRGZ's pics on the first page, it seems it does.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tumdace:
Well the 21911 MaxSense is screwed for me, so I am patiently waiting for the 23121 MaxSense. Is there an ETA?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
Totally agree. Wifi basics and router functioning are off-topic.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
Are you kidding, or you just don't read?

I posted this one or two hours ago!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deeznuts:
Dang, bought this router years ago from att, manual's probably down the drain. I could probably pick another one up though from an att store. Sorry for it being off topic guys. Just figured since im using the rom id ask here, was hoping it was just something easy i must be overlooking.

Can you guys please answer this though that is rom/phone related, not router related. Why is it when connected to wifi i cannot hold data connection as well? Is this suppose to happen when connected to wifi?