yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
I think that the tech was misinformed. I did read the thread, but I seriously doubt that the Rhodium can support UMTS Band I. I am interested to see if it does work for you, but the hardware specs on the RHOD210 are against you on this one. I would think that if it was capable of doing this, that it would have been listed as being Band IV and Band I capable. Also, I think that after this device being out for so long, that we would have heard something to this effect already.

I'm not saying it definitely won't happen, but it is highly unlikely that this is going to work for you. Don't get me wrong; I would love for you to prove me wrong here. This would be a GREAT selling point for when we all finally decide to sell these devices, so please do keep us informed of when you give it a try.

EDIT: Since we've flown WAY off topic here, feel free to either PM or message me for ny further discussion, or start a thread in the general section.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
Rhodium Models Comparison Table & Network Coverage

Could be useful for someone:

Comparison Table [6] | AT&T HTC Tilt2 T7377 | HTC Touch Pro2 CDMA | HTC Touch Pro2 T7373 | Sprint Touch Pro2 T7380 | T-Mobile MDA Vario V (HTC Rhodium 100) | Verizon Touch Pro2

Network coverage specs per country
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
Edit: ach, cajunflavored--didn't see your last post until putting up mine. I'll stop this here and pursue it elsewhere, or PM you, as you kindly offered. Jake

Re Tmobile 3G in Europe, the more you look into it, the more varied the opinion. I'm a new poster and so can't put in the www of this link

howardforums.com/showthread.php/1677017-Do-any-of-TMobile-s-3G-smartphones-(android-or-blackberry)-work-in-Europe

but if you can get past the flaming in that thread, then look at other anecdotal stories of folks who actually gone to Europe w/ Tmobile phones and successfully used 3G, I'm hoping it's possible.

The trouble is, the huge costs of using a locked US phone in Europe precludes significant testing. But except for one G2 user who said he couldn't do it (other users said he could, but just didn't know how), people have weighed in with positive results.

But it's too murky to be absolute.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
I have read that thread as well. I still don't see anyone saying that the actual data service functions on the overseas network. The device is naturally going to show a 3G icon since it had the downlink connection on the 2100MHz channel. This is where it gets its information from. Its the uplink connection that you'll need, however to actually access the Internet from your device. The device will send a request for a connection. If the uplink doesn't respond, then no Internet. This is what everyone is uncertain about.

Make certain to get a prepaid SIM card while overseas as the roaming charges for any US carrier are astronomical. I'm not certain of the carriers available in Greece, but I would strongly advise against using T-MoUS as your carrier while traveling. I certainly wish you the best, and I hope it does work, but because of the strong evidence against it, I am understandably skeptical.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
I've been doing the mapping of the key with tarkim's remapper as you illustrated. Only difference is that I map Fn-C instead of long press C, etc.

I was doing that with my Fuze for almost a year and set it up immediately on my Tilt 2 when I got it in August. I even posted the reg export of the mapping a long while back.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
I have to agree with doing it with the function button. It feels more natural with a double key press. I got lucky and have this set up by default on my RHOD210, though. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
Re: Copy And Paste On Touch Pro 2 & Tilt 2

I don't doubt for a second that you were doing that before I was born as you are an advanced user & I got my first smart phone in Nov 2010. :)

My post was addressed to newbies & many are non-native English speakers like me hence the links & image.

And also: I prefer using only one finger instead of two w/ FN + C for example.

*****
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
Well, you can still do it with 1 finger.

press the FN button and release.

press the C button and release.

It registers as FN-C.

In any case, you made a good illustration for users that might otherwise not adventure into configuring the keyboard with Tarkim's key remapper.

And they should be able to use that however they prefer.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
Re: Copy And Paste On Touch Pro 2

Obviously. :)

Maybe you missed it but the post I linked to described both methods: Copy And Paste On Touch Pro 2.

BTW long press mapping is useful for me when I want to type ñ for example as FN+N = the number 0. It's much faster to long press N for ñ than > FN > SYM > More > scroll down and to the right to select ñ. :eek:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
CHT swipe to center

So I just came across this handy little gesture on CHT2.0. I'm running a two row, three column home tab. I figured out by accident tonight that by swiping diagonally towards the center while on an outer tab brings you to the next level and center tab. If you're confused, see my screenshot below.

If you're on page 1, and swipe towards the bottom right or top right, it would take you straight to the number 5 page. Inversely, if you're on page 6 and swipe to the top or bottom left, you'd end up on page number 2. This is handy for me and my set up. I can easily swipe from my mail or SMS widget to my center page (number 2).

Some of you may have already figured this little trick out, but it was news to me when it happened. I first thought it was a glitch until I was able to reproduce it time and time again. So, hopefully this helps out someone. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] LpH1981:
Problems with HTC Twitter

Hello, does any one have problem with the HTC Twitter app? I have changed the update time to every 5 minutes. But i still have to update by hand en when i do the screen won't update intill i go to an other tab and then back to the twitter tab. Is there an update for this app?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
Like many others, I miss the old alt-tab open-program scroller for CE and other Windows flavors, and have researched the workarounds available.

I have a Tmobile TP2, meaning that I have no physical TAB key, so some of the alt-tab cabs floating about probably won't work with my keyboard.

With "keyboard config," I've successfully mapped alt-t as my tab key for Softmaker, etc. And alt-D to bring up HanDBase. And etc.

But I don't know how to do the same for alt-tab. Is there any way to get around open programs without first going through TaskManager?

Much obliged for any advice,

Jake

edit: partially solved:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=561587 will suggest using alttab.exe

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=357227&page=2 is where you'll find the actual exe

It's okay, but still brings up a task manager substitute rather than going directly to th next open program, which is my goal
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
Re: CHT Diagonal swipe to center

It did help someone. :)

Neat feature, thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
My apologies for bumping/OT-ing this thread once more, but I can't resist offering up this info on "Will a Tmobile TP2 Work Its 3G in Europe?"

If these specs--which are from the Tmobile site itself--are true, then it would appear that at 2100MHz, the Tmobile TP2 provides support for both Band I and Band IV:

http://support.t-mobile.com/main.ht...&manufacturer=HTC&navtypeid=6&prevPageIndex=2

Key specs from TMobile page:

HTC Touch Pro II:

"GSM: 850; 900; 1800; 1900 UMTS: 1 (2100); 4 (AWS 1700/2100)"

Hope it's all true, and sorry again to return to this,

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hdurina:
And to think I was just telling my friend about this fun feature yesterday, which I thought was cool transition effects :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] holmanm:
Run \Windows\QuickMenu.exe, pick QuickMenu, pick Option..., goto the Command tab, pick Active Next, pick Create Shortcut. If You don't use QuickMenu be sure to exit by picking Menu, Cancel so it doesn't save QuickMenu to the start button.

You will then have a \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\QuickMenu-Active Next.lnk that you can set a button to using "keyboard config" to switch to the next window.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mike523:
n/m eom ....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] geoffroy974:
thanks to the reply
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jezi:
Nice white analog clock cajun, can you share that w/ me please?:o:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
@holmanm

Many, many thanks. Works like a charm, and with great instructions to boot.

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] berrywr:
Sprint is expected to get the HTC 7 Pro (CDMA) first. I've yet to see a GSM version available for the US as of this typing; however, it is what I will be sitting for; which you're correct it's the same form factor as the Rhodium. I realize this may sound a bit odd; but has anybody deliberately downgraded their OS with a WP 7 device back to WM 6.5.x and installed a custom ROM?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rkub:
Ya I do kinda like that phone but would love a larger screen than what the 7 Pro has. Prayin for a phone like the Atrix but from HTC w/ a kb...lol

I think you askin in the wrong place about droppin a WP7 phone back to 6.5. You might want to ask in that forum...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
When I purchased my TP2, it did not list the device as being able to support Band I. The reason I'm skeptical is because of the difference in frequencies between the two bands. The 2100MHz frequency for Band I puts the uplink in between 1920-1980MHz, while downlink ranges from 2110-2170MHz. For Band IV, the uplink is between 1710-1755MHz, while downlink is between 2110-2155MHz. This means that the downlink is essentially the same for both, but the uplink is different between the two bands.

So, technically, IMT should be written out like AWS is with both numbers. Then it would be written properly as 1900/2100. I have no idea why they only list the 2100MHz band, but you should keep in mind that the 2100MHz that is listed is not meant for uploads on Band I to my knowledge.

This is why I am so uncertain about this. I have never once, other than in that link you provided seen that the Touch Pro2 for T-Mobile US supported Band I IMT transmissions. I will again, wish you luck in that it does indeed work, however. It would be absolutely wonderful if it did work. It's just that there is a lot of evidence that is out of favor with this being the case.

I'm sorry, but it isn't mine to share. I can't even disclose the author of the clock just yet. It's cooked in my ROM for now while I'm beta testing a theme for someone. If I remember about it, I'll let you know when the theme is out in the wild.

Well, The 7 Pro is actually available to GSM carriers in Europe as well. O2 in Germany was the first to get it. I don't remember the companies ofhand, but the UK is the next country to see the GSM version. You can get them now and have them work with US GSM/EDGE networks. Verizon is supposed to have theirs released in March, I think.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Galaen:
XDA_UC Question

I am planning to use xda_uc to relocate my start menu shortcuts to their proper folders, i.e. Games, Tools, etc. I saw on page 1 of this thread that all you have to do is copy the shortcuts into the xda_uc folder and into the proper subdirectories. I understand all of that, but will there also be duplicate shortcuts in the main start menu directory? For example, installing the cleanram cab will put a shortcut on the start menu. If I do the xda_uc trick, will I have a shortcut in the start menu and in the Tools folder? If so, do I need to use Mortscript to solve this? Thanks in advance.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
So long

I just wanted to check in and say bye to everyone who has been so helpful (and I suppose to those who haven't). As you can see from my signature, I've gone to the HD2. I don't want to get too far off topic here, but there is no comparison with the TP2. The HD2 runs way faster, including bootup, and is night and day the better device - if you don't need that physical keyboard. It is simply amazing to work with.

I'll check in sometimes, but look for me on the Leo NRG board.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Use the attached file as a reference to build your own mortscript file. The one I've attached will move the CleanRAM link from the Programs folder into the Tools folder in the start menu. This way, you don't need to copy the links from the SD when you install the files. Copying the links from the XDA_UC folder to the start menu is only useful for files you have installed to the SD card and don't need to reinstall on each flash.

Gonna miss you, buddy. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jezi:
I hope we can also upgrade the TP2 to 4G speeds like the HD2 just by changing the radio ROM,:eek: look--

http://www.mobileunderground.info/showthread.php?t=704&page=1
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
Re: So Long TP2

Thanks, that's really nice to post that our TP2 are cr@ppy in a thread about a ROM for TP2. :confused:

Some of us non-US citizens can't afford the HD2 or whatnot. We are here to make the best of our TP2. :cool:

BTW: CleanRAM [APP]htcAddicts - cleanRAM v2.5 (RAM Cleaner). A great tool for phones w/ limited RAM like the TP2 & Tilt2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wbrown5:
Can someone make available the following Jan 6th Energy Roms?

Energy.RHODIUM.21916.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Jan.6

Energy.RHODIUM.29007.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Jan.16
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
I was ready install cleanRAM until my searching turned up complaints about cleanRAM and later versions of EnergyROM. My own specs are a Tmobile HTC Touch Pro 2 and Energy.RHODIUM.29007.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Jan.16.7z.

Will cleanRAM play nice with this setup? I found users saying, starting about mid-2010, that they were having trouble with cleanRAM.

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fuzzy John:
I installed yesterday on my year old AT&T Tilt 2 the "Energy.RHODIUM.29007.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Jan.16.7z" ROM. This was my first non-official ROM installation, and WOW... what a ride!

I am still sifting thru all the nooks and crannies and keep finding more settings.

Since yesterday I came up with a few questions. I honetly did attempt to search for the answers in the threads here but with over 3200 pages in one single thread the search is an overwhelming process. So here are my questions:

I noticed several times that when I power up the phone or restart it, HTC Sense starts loading, displays and the appears to restart loading. I've seen this happening once 3 times in a row. Does this mean that Sense or CHT is crashing?

Is it possible to change the big Opera icon on the Internet tab to either a generic one or to Internet Explorer? Or maybe have that icon follow which ever browser is the default?

I noticed that in general the signal strength indicator shows more bars that what I used to have in the same places with my previous ROM (the HTC Tilt 2 ROM released in Aug. 2010). Since no radio was flashed this time around, does this ROM actually improve on the signal strength or is this just the result of a different algorithm used?

After I turn on the phone, when the HTC splash image is displayed, I can barely hear a sound if I put the hone up to my ear. Can that volume be increased?

All my ringtones seem to play at a lower level than what I had with the previous ROM even though my volume control is set at max. Can the Ring and System volumes be increased?

Several times after I deleted SMS messages and emails from the Sense interface they came back. They appeared to be really deleted only when I did so from the various Inboxes. Is this known?

Thank you!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Search the thread for Energy ROM mirror.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
If you set it up properly, there isn't any problem that I know of. It's hard to say which problems may or may not be there without you giving us some examples, though. I have never had any problems with this application, though. When you set up the ROM properly, it isn't even really needed in my opinion. I used to use it frequently when I first began flashing ROMs on the Rhodium. I have a nice enough set up now that I never even have to use it anymore.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
Don't count on it. And I don't believe the results shown to be accurate.

After running the test with the 1MB link, Internet Explored says that I am downloading at 1786 Kbps.

And the image there and on my device shows that 4G is 2500 Kbps.

I doubt that T-Mobile's 4G is 5 times faster than what mobilespeedtest.com says it is.

A while back someone had started a thread claiming to have found a setting that would increase your internet speed. I did extensive testing and found that there were no actual improvements. Only IE would report incorrectly.

It was like it's processing would move on and not actually download the test data to the phone. When viewing a page, it would not download any faster. And Opera consistently reported correct results.

In any case, there is no way that T-Mobiles 4G speeds are that fast. Unless it can be shown in Opera as well, it is just the same IE trick to make people think their data plan is faster.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] torrent_2004:
Not sure about other countries in Europe, but i did not recall having any issue in Netherland and Germany when I was there last year.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Answered in line in red.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
Answers to your questions:

#1. Sense may be crashing when the phone is first turned on. This is especially true if you have added the Tasks widget, but do not have any tasks. Ther may be some other things at startup that cause it to crash and restart. I don't know of any though. But if could be something like a process hasn't fully started that Sense depends on. Sense restarts and the process has had enough time to start, so it does not crash.

#2. This has been requested before. It's alot more complicated than you think, but actually pretty simple as far as complicated things go. You will need a mode9 editor. This can be found on xda-developers. A search for mode9 editor should be able to find it. Then, you will need to find out what xxxxxxxx_manila file contains the image. Just copy all to a folder on your storage card. Then copy them to your computer. Use the mode9 editor on your computer to find the one that contains the image. edit the image using something like Gimp or Photo Shop. Save it back to the manila file and put it back on your storage card and then into the windows folder. I might put a link to the mode9 editor in this post if I find it quickly.

#3. As far as I know, it is probably just cosmetic. But, when the August 2010 ROM came out, people were reporting that it was showing less bars than they originally had. And that aslso was just cosmetic.

#4. Not sure. You could probably find the audio file and edit it. There is a cab floating around that increase the volume of calls. I don't know if it also affects this. Maybe someone reading this will remember the name of it. It also might be mentioned in post #6. Post #6 has a wealth of informtion that everyone should read.

#5. The can for #4 might take care of it. Some ringtones are louder than others.

#6. You delete emails????:) I have noticed this, because I never delete emails. It is interesting. I just verified that my settings say to delte off the server, but it looks like sense does not take that setting into accout. Might be a kind of a good thing, since it can be accidentally done from the UI.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Not replying to JVH3 in particular here. It was just easier to hit his quote button.

Aside from the conflict of the phone companies calling there networks 4G when they really aren't, the 2500Kbps is not "4G" speeds. The minimum "4G" speed should be closer to 3000Kbps or 3500Kbps. The Rhodiums are only capable of handling a theoretical max of 7.2Mbps anyway. T-Mobile's current generation of "4G" HSPA+ network is capable of speeds up to 22Mbps. The question is a matter of whether the radio supports it. It's a question of (as usual) whether the hardware will allow higher speeds.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Puff1911:
29007 vs 28244

I know a lot of you all have shown a lot more interest in the 29*** releases..

But so far from my experiences the 28*** seem to run a lot faster and much more stable.

I don't use Youtube or any of the Social networking applications.

Strictly email/sms, calendar and occasionally the camera and some browsing.

Anyone has any other feedback on the Jan16 releases?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Galaen:
CleanRAM Issues

I am using CleanRAM on the rom in my sig and have no real issues. On the VERY rare occasion, if I run the program immediately after quitting some other program, it might quit unexpectedly. Understand that it is so rare that I am never truly bothered with it because I can restart the program immediately and it runs fine. Also, keep in mind that I have adjusted none of its settings (although I probably should). This may be a part of the problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rkub:
Does anyone know what changes NRG made to the 1/16 roms? Just curious if it's worth it to reflash from 1/6 roms... Checked his site, and the HD2 thread but can't find anything...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
Thank you, cajunflavoredbob and Galaen.

The complaints were vague ("It doesn't work with this new EnergyROM") but they came in a flurry, perhaps after a move to a custom 6.5, I don't know.

I'll go ahead and install it, now that I have some advice from forum veterans.

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
CleanRam...

Hey, that's not too nice for the new guy who posted a link to it as well as a comment after using it w/ ROM.Jan06. :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
Hey, Joe Bleau--you have 85 posts: to me, that's a veteran :)

At any rate, I installed cleanRAM 2.5 without complaint, and it seems fine so far. I don't know yet what those other folks were talking about.

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Monfro:
Probably they were speaking about Raphael (Touch Pro, Fuze) or Diamond, which uses a VGA ported Phone Canvas...and if CleanRam shuts off phcanvga.exe the dialer is no more displayed correct.

But no problems at all on WVGA devices.

PS. I hope DFT will make public that 29009 build soon :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Chr0niC:
new roms jan 23

Seems like the new roms are out. Anybody knows if the rhodium roms have the same perma screenlock bugs that the hd2 versions from jan 16 seem to have?

(Seems like the jan23 version has the same bug still from messages in hd2 Thread )