yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deeznuts:
x2, what are these classic roms? Seems there's one for every flavor? Anyone flash one of these yet and notice what they are since there's no changelogs coming up yet? THanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnhale:
classic roms

I think that the classic roms have CHT 1.8.5 cooked in,not CHT2....but I might be wrong.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pietsukkel:
Manila Today Page doesn't work on Rhodium version

Hi guys!

Today I installed Energy.RHODIUM.21680.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Oct and installed Manila Today Page immediately afterwards. The Today page added by MTP still isn't visible in this release. Other EnergyROM users (ie Topaz) reported that it is working on their ROMs, so it must be related to the Rhodium ROMs...

Kind regards,

Piet

Problem solved!

Fixed 26948339_manila file of MTP. New EnergyROMs are more critical about the syntax of this file. It contained a double space and Sense could not handle that. After installing MTP and deleting ManilaFull.xml it now works!

Thanks!

Piet
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] motisu:
The classic versions use CHT 1.8.5 and not V2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hanlincn:
of crouse , i have checked changelog before reply...

but changelog have no words about oct 7 ....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] I burn water:
zip compression errors

I would say put the fixes for the zip issues on the FAQ but I doubt anyone will read.

For all who are having problems with unzipping the new zip files download the latest beta for 7zip or winrar 3.93.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
Clarification about the new ROMs: Classic, 7 zip, and Start Menu

A lot of people seem to be confused about the new ROMs, so I decided to post answers to the most common questions (although they had already been answered separately), so that all can be found in one place.

1- "I cannot open the new zipped file", or "the downloaded files seem to be corrupted".

Solution: Download and install the BETA version of 7-zip at http://www.7-zip.org/

2- "What is the Classic ROM?"

Answer: The last batch of Cookie ROMs came with Cookie version 2. Although it has additional functionality, some people (including NRGZ) were under the impression that it consumed more battery. So, NRGZ now makes available two "flavors" of Cookie ROMs: with Cookie version 2, and with Cookie version 1.8.5 - this one he called Classic.

3- "What are the new options of Start Menu replacement?"

Answer: NRGZ posted the explanation here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8510516&postcount=27076

My suggestion is: try them, and choose the one you prefer. There is no magical solution: either you pay a price in available ROM, or you pay a price in look and feel.

One more thing: PLEASE STOP ASKING FOR A CHANGELOG. NRGZ usually posts it first on the HD2 (Leo) thread. If it is not there, there isn't a changelog YET. Either flash the ROM and see for yourself, or wait. Patience is a virtue :-)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] liht:
Love the energy rom, been using it forever. I'd really like to go with the titanium rom for speed...but I just wish weather with my location was built into it...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] osiedacz:
Link2Cpl Settings Shortcuts For Sense Start Menu

Hey All, I really like the option of the new Sense Start Menu replacement, but didn't like the lack of access to the Settings or Control Panel area. I stumbled across this little program and so far it seems to have added in functional shortcuts to the ones I wanted. You can even choose which ones are in there.

Link2Cpl

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=791682
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sdlopez83:
Tried to search and Im sure someone or many of you have touched up on the subject but is the UC working with the new cookie? I have all my quick links messed up Im coming from last months build to this one. Anybody?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] raz1337:
I think I'll switch to the oct 7 classic rom when I get the chance. Had battery issues the last few flashes. I had 70% at 7 PM. Took 3 pictures, made a phone call, left the battery idle all night unplugged until 10 AM, and it's dead. I was running the Sept 29th Cookie 2.0.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
I've posted a screen of the hardware info page on the new one. I probably should have kept the other one for a day or so to see the differences. The reported hardware doesn't look different to me. I know for a fact it is considerably faster than the other one, though. I am getting the same smooth transitions that I was with the older one using OCT at a static 728MHz.

You can't use CHT settings from 1.8.5 (classic cookie) and move it to CHT2.0b. They are not compatible. Since you didn't give much info to work with, I'm just guessing at this being your problem.

The battery on new ROMs takes about 2 or 3 cycles before it settles to normal. Make certain that you are doing a task29 between each flash as well. I'm still working with the new device I have that I didn't task29 this time, and it is still causing battery problems.

You could always use a different weather app and add it to the home screen. WeatherBug is nice and free from the Windows Marketplace. I would highly recommend purchasing WeatherBug Elite, though.

Great link! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dc41:
'T' & 'Y' don't work on SIP (touch keyboard) 28011/Max?

Anyone else have this problem? When using the default SIP the t and y keys don't work. The T closes the keyboard and the Y brings up the SIP options.

I assume the touch response for the SIP softkey is being moved up the screen. Easy fix? Or will I have to wait for the chef?

Update: Never mind. The problem went away after a few resets.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mrkrazy:
Great job on the newest 28011 with Max Manila :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] laafiera:
I love the 28011 12/11, everything I tried works, Maxmanila was the missing factor.... but maxmanila doesn't seem to move smooth enough for my total satisfaction, once I try Montecristo Rom and the home screen was more silking when moving from the clock to the rest of the short cut tab, just like Manilia, I was hoping it has to do something with the setting but I looked and nothing, maybe there is cab somewhere that fix this sadden flip... I hate it!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] osrix:
+1 on this issue i didn't flag it either, as it seems a minor , but is is annoying! soft reset usually sorts it or turn phone to airplane mode and back also does the trick.

After a call to my UK network(i thought it might be them!) it seems that my phone isn't always registering on the network properly.

i'm using 21884 Dec 9
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] swtaltima:
Can this be used with at&t tilt 2?

I just received my new tilt 2 and am wanting to start flashing but dont find the same clear cut description of the roms on the forum in regard to compatibility. Additionally I dont see any sort of a cab repository as Ive seen on the kaiser and hermes boards.

If someone wouldn't mind assisting outside of spl what else is needed to flash a non att branded rom?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] garthus:
Task Manager

Is there a task manager in this rev, if so how do i activate it?

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jcrompton:
This may not make any sense but I'll try - what exactly does Max Manilla do that requires "smoothness"? It is basically just a different look of Manilla Home page the best I can tell. So other than the different look it acts just like Manilla.

Can you clarify what you are talking about??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] saymyname:
same here....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] qcefer:
dusk theme please

nrg are you planning to cook a dusk themed rom any time soon
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rick94:
New rom is great.

But I have the feeling that the TP2 is missing processor speed for the htc sense 2.5...

So I am using the 6.5 interface.

Don't know how other feel about this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] 30Glock:
I have none that you have reported, what issue do you have w task manager? my location is fine. This rom is the best I have had.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dario69:
Hard to explain but I know what they are saying. The author of Max Manila even said they removed animations to make it run faster. I like the fluid the nature of Manila so I went back to a previous release.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmicha:
Disable Max Manilla / 28011 or 21884?

Hey all, just womdering if i download any of the new versions with Max Manilla cooked in, can Max Manilla be disabled if you want the standard 2.5 home screen?

Also, are we still saying that 28011 is any buggier than than the 21884 build, or are we past that?

Thanks!,

Michael
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] lufc:
The only difference i can see between the normal 2.5 and max manila is the max so if you want the max install it if not use the normal 2.5 and i cannot see anywhere where it can be dissabled sorry
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] laafiera:
Here is what I mean on this MaxManila video on this video you can see how smooth and fluid MaxManila really is... and if you fast-forward to 1.21 minutes into the video you can actually see what I mean, when you flick the screen the clock seem to disappear slowly like falling backward and vice-versa, we already get that with regular manila and I don't want to sacrify either.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] RojasTKD:
If I want to use the task manager to awitch between running programs, it difficult to impossible because as soon as it starts the goes the the notification window.

My Location Weather sometimes won't up dates, other times it works fine. It seem to not function more often. My other cities work fine, but my location is hit or miss, mostly miss.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] block:
why when i open more than 1 program the last program closes...never did that with the tp, I could have like 8 programs open @ once whats up with that?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] 30Glock:
wow that sounds like an Iphone to me
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] drew2000:
Look at "Advance Configuration" program

I thought I noticed something in "Advance Configuration" a program installed with the ROM I am using and in the choices under "HTC Task Manager" there is one called "auto kill" I have it disabled. Not sure if that will help you or not but if you have "Advance Configuration" on your device take a look at the settings there. On my device I go to "start" then "tools" then "tweaks" good luck.

**If you do not have it (Advance Configuration) on your device here it is, fourth one down on the first post:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=550973
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] derylmccarty:
Tilt 2 with WM6.5.x and Sense 2.5 and MaxManila

It think this hits the nail on the head. NRG has done a fantastic job of making the TP2 (in all its incarnations) a really useful and cool instrument. But I think we are seeing an immovable object and an irresistible force approaching each other pretty fast. What I see is the demand for ever more applications, video applicability and communications capability coming up against a CPU cycles limit. We just can't ask much more of the 528MHz platform, however much we love it. Some of NRG's stuff is Leo (HD2) inspired and probably needs that Snapdragon 1GHZ CPU to make this stuff work without failing or failing the ROM load.

I think we ought to be very cautious about what we ask NRG to accomplish. Even MaxManila cooked in is slowing down the system and for how much return (cooler apps or more capability or better eye candy) on investment (less responsiveness, sloooooow reaction, more hard and soft Resets).

NRG is a great chef, probably best of the breed, but he is up against 528 MHz and that is an object that just can't be moved.

I know, I know, I'm an A'Hole, but a concerned A'Hole.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
I use 3G, but it is set to disconnect at 5 minutes. I don't use BT.

I'm using the same settings on this version that I used before. The major difference is probably CHT 2.0.

ROM as of this post: NRG ROM 21680 CHT 2.0
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
I didn't have any problems I noticed using UC on this version.

ROM as of this post:NRG ROM 21680 CHT 2.0
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deeznuts:
Thank you. Ive been using the cookie dinnik 2.0 sept29 rom since it came out and still on it. I dont notice any battery drain difference to be honest and like the new features and faster transitions with the newer cookie version.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] osu9400:
Installed 21916.GTX.Oct.07 (disabled Sense of course) and love the fresh look. However, why is the start menu back on top? I really like it in the lower left corner.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnhale:
I think that you're looking for CHT2 21680 Oct7 it has the start menu at the bottom...read the first page of this thread.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deeznuts:
Anyone know how to speed up the amazingly slowww lag time it takes for the screen to rotate? Talking about any cookie rom, doesnt matter which version cookie. Especially on home tab, slide out ur hardware keyboard and see how many seconds u can count slowly before the dang screen rotates to landscape and vice versa when u close the hardware keyboard. Home tab is the worst but lag on all tabs. Mind u i only have maybe 4 sense tabs active and even get major lag with a fresh flash with nothing installed or any cht settings/apps/anything set yet. Almost makes me want to use standard rom, huge difference there since standard gives zero lag in screen rotation just like sense 2.1. Why cookie gotta be sooooo sloowwwww?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
You can only back up between the same main versions of CHT. Version 1.x backs up with 1.x. Version 2.x will back up with 2.x.

You could try my solution: do a warranty exchange. lol My rotation time is right about a second or so. It isn't instant, but WAY better than the 3-4 seconds it was before.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bipinsen:
Quick comment on 21680 Oct 7 Cookie 2.0 ROM

I think the culprit was the CHT scheduler. My battery has stopped draining, and the available RAM stays above 50. I think battery was definitely affected by the scheduler. Co0kie claimed that there is no running process with the scheduler, but that it only reacts to "events." Well.. something must have been running to be watching constantly for these events to pop up, because boy - did it drink up the juice. With no scheduler, I can immediately see better battery performance.

I'm using the Sense start menu, and while it takes forever for the icons to populate, its still better than using the compact menu. Plus, 80% of the programs I run now show up on the "previously used" bottom bar, so I don't have to do much scrolling.

This one's a winner. Keep the scheduler out please! Or at least give an option to not have it installed.

From all I've seen, there's not a whole lot of performance difference between CHT 1.8 and 2.0. Interested to know what people who went back to the old CHT after using 2.0 are experiencing...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jedah:
This might be the answer you're looking for, taken from the CHT thread:

"For non-HD2 users: Keep in mind that this was primarily made for the HD2 and it will be slower on other devices. To improve performance you have options to: reduce the animation level and reduce the number of quick links pages."
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] yellowtail714:
unable to flash Tilt2

I'm having difficult time fashing new rom on my Tilt 2. Install process will not pass 0% and eventually displays error message. I tried manual install bypassing active sync and still same result. I have sucessfully installed new rom on touch pro 2 so I know it's not the computer issue. Could it be that Tilt 2 will not accept this rom version? FYI tilt 2 has new att stock rom dated 6/2010. thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sdlopez83:
Thank you sir!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Zhensor:
I have the 29 oct. cookie 2(the version with the start menu on top:P dunno the version numbers) version installed and when i make a call the other side cant hear me cleary. sometimes its fine but often the problem starts again.

anybody?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] monomer888:
Thanks for posting your info screen. Mine's exactly the same except total Storage Space on my (European version) TP2 is 251.70MB. I assume that's just a difference in ROM flavours.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] blutruck:
Did you flash Hard SPL before trying to flash the ROM? If not you will need a file named "HSPL enablerapinew" before flashing Hard SPL. Install the CAB and retry flashing Hard SPL then the ROM. Did you read this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=550540? Hope this helps.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deeznuts:
I have att and the att tilt 2 is the same hardware as the original as far as i know? I just did an insurance exchange since my last device fell 15 stories high, lol! Got this new one maybe 2mths ago. Does this with every nrg rom with cht cooked in or cabbed installed in so obviously its a cht issue, doubt its an energy rom issue. Just dont understand the major lag? Even have my device overclocked to 729mhz! Makes no difference OCT or not which boogles my mind.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
Just flashed the classic CHT. I can tell immediately that it is better. I'm trying the Sense menu. Right now I have about 85 Mb free after running a couple of programs; it is about 90 when it reboots.

ROM as of this post: NRG ROM 21680 7 Oct CHT 1.8

EDIT: BTW, I had a difficult time getting the new 7zip to work right on my 64 Bit Win 7 machine. Very frustrating.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] minicoop7:
I was also experiencing the heavy battery drain with the 9/29 version. I have the At&T Tilt2 (Los Angeles area). I tried the Dinik version first and after 4 days of use, reflashed to the regular cookie version last Wed. I experienced significant battery drain on both.

I just flashed 10/7 last night and it appears to be the same battery drain. I may have to do a complete flash (install latest stock ROM, task29 then flash 10/7 ROM) tonight. I'm thinking there are still some remnants of the 9/29 ROM.

Lag on the Dinik when sliding keypad was around 10 seconds. On the Cookie, it was 3 sec.

Overall, I love the speed of the ROM!

Thanks.

MC
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
It sounds like you're trying to install an unsigned ROM on a device that has a standard SPL. Make sure you've installed HSPL on your device before attempting to flash a custom ROM. If this isn't the case, you should be receiving some sort of error message from the CustomRUU, which you should post to allow us to better help you.

That's correct. If you're using the normal Energy Sense in your sig, then the difference is just all the skinning and graphics required in GTX. I have no idea why this is so much faster, but I can't honestly say that I care! I'm so happy to have this thing functioning so well!

I was actually just being comical in my suggestion. I have no clue why it's running so much quicker, but I like it! It used to take 3-4 seconds to switch. It's just over "one-Mississippi" now. Maybe you could switch to T-Mobile! :D

As we've pointed out before, the battery meter needs a couple of cycles (drain the battery all the way, charge, and repeat) before it settles properly after a flash. This is nothing new or unique. It is the same situation on stock ROMs. The other cause of this is if you do not task29 between flashes. I have verified this myself. It is very important that you perform a task29 before each flash. It only takes 90 seconds or so. You aren't going out of your way to do so. It clears up a lot of other "ghost" issues that plague new ROMs such as this.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
T-Mobile TP2 screen protector

I know that this belongs in the accessories thread, but I trust you guys more. I've looked over there and found a few sites selling them, but I want to see what you guys are using.

Anyone here using the T-Mobile TP2? If so, and you aren't using the screen protector that came with the device, where did you get yours from, and how does it fit? The T-Mobile layout seems to be the one with the most controversy around it. Not all of them seem to fit as they should, or the sellers are just sending a screen for a different version. There have been several nice reviews on different ones, though.

So, which do you prefer? I need to protect my shiny, speedy new phone. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] minicoop7:
As we've pointed out before, the battery meter needs a couple of cycles (drain the battery all the way, charge, and repeat) before it settles properly after a flash. This is nothing new or unique. It is the same situation on stock ROMs. The other cause of this is if you do not task29 between flashes. I have verified this myself. It is very important that you perform a task29 before each flash. It only takes 90 seconds or so. You aren't going out of your way to do so. It clears up a lot of other "ghost" issues that plague new ROMs such as this.[/QUOTE]

Totally forgot about cycling the battery. i didn't task29 the last couple of flashes coz I got used to not having problems with this awesome rom :D:D

Thanks cajunflavoredbob!

MC
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
THIS post gave a link to fix the missing settings in the Sense menu.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] PUTALE:
i really love this latest rom. I have got to say, I really love the sense start menu as it shows the programs that is on the phone and I think that's probably what most people really need combine with all of the nice widgets we can use.

I was looking through how to get to the setting menu and could not find it so I can switch back to the other looks and finally found that it's hidden under "setting-->other-->start menu layout switch" It's useful for those who may wish to change the look and test things.

Overall, I am really really loving this latest batch of roms.

I got a little over 80MB of ram free after setting the phone up, which is like 10-15 more than the last built.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dafunk60:
Decent coverage in my area ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Quincux:
nice, thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] monomer888:
NRGZ's choice of .7z compression

If you've been wondering why NRGZ changed his compression method, he wrote a post explaining it here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8512717&postcount=27089

Hope that clarifies a few things. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
Nice. Thanks.

Although the bigger issue with being able to disable Sense when using the Sense start menu, is that there is not a way to launch a program once Sense is shut down. The start mnu does start sense if it is not running though.

I might map triple click of the PTT to something like Total Commander. Useful even without the mod.