yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
Wi Fi tethering and windows phone 7.

Although, this thread is not the right spot to compare phone Operating Systems, I want to give a little more info on this.

Many of the Samsung phones have WiFi tethering working for no extra fee. Of course they aren't telling AT&T because they want to charge you extra. Data gives you 2 GB, but then they want to charge you more if you use some of the 2GB for tethering. Doesn't seem right to me, but that's AT&T.

Personally, I love syncing outlook over the air with our companies exchange server. Not sure why you would not want to sync over the air or through WiFi.

One of the coolest things about the phone is never needing to restart it. It never runs low on ram and never locks up and never needs to be restarted. From what I have read, no one is saying that about Android.

I am elligible for an upgrade in January with AT&T. I was going to get an Android device because I expected to dislike Windows Phone 7. I was surprised. I like it. So, I probably will hold out so I am not under any contract. AT&T has discontinued my reasons for staying. A-List, unlimited data, 200 messages for $5, and they feel they can charge extra for tethering. I understand charging for tethering with unlimited data, but when they charge you extra once you reach 2 GB, they should not care how you use your data or what you have connected through your device.

In any case, WiFi tethering does work for free for some phones with a little tweaking.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wmg316:
Well dang! I was holding out for the Holiday....but now that I read your post, maybe the Titan would be the way to go.

Your thoughts? Feel free to PM me if you don't want to "clutter" the thread...although I don't think NRG...or any one else would mind at this point! ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
We could just start up a new thread about it in the general section. Lord knows that there's a ton of others who are moving on from the Rhodium now too. I wish the HTC 7 Pro had been released to other carriers. I would have grabbed one of those myself.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] samsat:
A quick bit of help here please. My contacts list has become very slow.

If I click the call button and then all people all my contacts come up.

If I Select any one of them to view the details they pop up after about 3 seconds and if I then select back, it can take a full 10 seconds to go back. Is there a way to reformat the contacts database in case its got a little corrupted over the years?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deeken:
What is NRG doing now that WM is pretty much obsolete? I would not mind seeing one more build of this aging ROM.

On a side note, I am up for an upgrade with AT&T but not much appeals to me. I am certainly not going to the route of WP7. Not much to look forward to IMO.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] samsat:
I'm in the same boat as you. I am waiting for the HTC Vigor. The SGS2 looks really good but little things like no message/battery status indicator light and no LTE are putting me off. Not to mention that I have owned and liked the HTC ownership experience for many years.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rkub:
Looks like AT&T just brought a new phone w/ kb to their lineup although the specs aren't quite as good as I would have hoped... Guess I'll be waiting just a little longer... From engadget:

AT&T also announced the Samsung Captivate Glide, which looks to be a decently-spec'd QWERTY-packing device that comes complete with 4-inch Super AMOLED display, Android 2.3, a 1GHz dual-core NVIDIA Tegra 2 CPU, 21Mbps HSPA+, an 8MP rear camera with 1.3MP front-facing cam, 1080p HD video capture and HDMI playback. It will be available in AT&T stores and online October 16th, for $99 on a two year contract (no rebate).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
There's a thread over here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=660782

dedicated to differences between platforms.

Ignore the first posts and the spreadsheet, because it is not updated with Mango specs and was created within weeks of the original release of Windows Phone 7.

I am actually glad that the USB broke on my Tilt 2, because all the negative posts about Windows Phone 7 would have steared me away before ever experiencing it.

$50 is all it takes to try it if you have insurance and your Tilt 2 "accidentally" breaks or is stolen, with no contract extension. (Better to put back the stock ROM and SPL if you plan for this.)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
I've used WP7 on my Leo several times. Even with Mango, I normally end up getting rid of it after a few days. That interface isn't for me.

I won't say that Metro is a horrible UI. It's just too simple for me to like it. There isn't anything in the realm of customization, and that always bugs me. That is really the biggest fault I find with it among other technical reasons. I would recommend, and have done so, to many people looking for a smartphone that is simple to use and lets you get in and out as fast as possible. WP7 does this very well.

The downside is that this OS is still in its infancy. MS is (arguably) going in the right direction (for general consumers) with their platform, but it is still a far cry from a mature OS able to compete with the likes of Android and even Apple.

Another big thing that bugs me is the way the OS is locked down in the same fashion as iOS where they expect every user to live in a walled garden. I know there are work arounds available, but paying $100 to unlock your device is crazy. I know there is the (now approved) Chevron unlocker for something around $10 or so, but MS isn't really advertising that, are they? Apple works the same way. At least google can blame the carriers for locking down their OS. Root is free on most Android devices. I know I'm kind of comparing Apples to Oranges a bit, but you get my point.

Anyway, I think what it means to me is that Android is likely to be the way I'm going from here. Windows Embedded Handheld seems to be still going, but will likely be abandoned soon. I just need to find Android equivalent apps to replace some stuff in WM...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
The LG Quantum has a registry editor built in. You just need to unlock the mfg app by following the directions here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1021602

Then you can dev unlock the phone for free and even keep it unlocked.

It's just a couple registry entries.

I plan to publish an app once I have a little spare time, so I will be paying the $100 and just using the emulator for now.

How many days can you go without rebooting an Android Phone?

I have yet to need to reboot since Mango on the 27th when I forced the update. And not a single lock up or inablility to answer. And it's always been responsive.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Why not use the Chevron unlocker for devs? I think it's only around $10 or so and is MS supported now.

As far as rebooting, WP7 is certainly better for that that Android. In WP7 on my HD2, I never had to reboot. On Android I reboot maybe once or twice a week, if that, but normally because of an app needing the restart to make a change to something, or to flash an update. On WM, I was rebooting once a week with my HD2 for comparison.

I've been using Android in NAND on my HD2 for the last couple of weeks to get better used to it before I decide on something.

I called up T-Mobile to see if I would qualify for an upgrade. I haven't been on contract for 5 or 6 years, but figured I'd see if they had anything good. Turns out that I can't upgrade my phone at all until I change my contract since my contract is too old. Therefore, I'm just going to look around and buy off contract as usual.

I was looking pretty hard at the Sensation. If there were a phone that could lure me to WP7, it would be the HTC 7 Pro. Too bad it only went to Sprint...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
I saw your tweet on the phone upgrade thing. Some of those old plans are too good to give up.

I have a friend whose family is on a family talk plan with 4 lines. To switch to the $49 unlimited everything per line, he needs to pay an early termination fee for each line.

I'm with AT&T. Everytime I login to the site, it asks if I want to see if I am elligible for an upgrade, but I am not elligible until about 1 week into January. If I change anything with my plan, I lose features. A-List is gone. $5 for 200 messages is gone, unlimited data is gone. So, if I change my minutes, I lose A-List. If I change my Text Messages, I can never go back to 200. If I change my data, I can never get unlimited data. My contract goes until June or July.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
I know what you mean. I pay $30 for 1000 minutes, $10 for unlimited text/picture/video messages, and $10 for unlimited data. The best thing is that my data plan includes tethering and has no soft cap at 5GB like the other T-mobile plans, since I got in while that stuff was unheard of. :D

I had to google A-list to see what it was. Lol.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GoodRevrnd:
Downloads broken?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] alberthagen:
Hi Everyone, this might be a stupid question (because im really new to the forum) but i cant find any download links for the costum energy rom.

I just got the htc touch pro2 and i would really like tot start using it.

It looks like quite an improvement.

Thanx in advance
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sumflipnol:
Have you tried HDWalls (with Manila 2.5 support) with the Manila2.5 Patch (attached), and if necessary the WM6.5.x position fix (attached)? It worked on a previous version I tried (I think it was the old 28011 build).

Thanks goes to those who created these cabs/tweaks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] beerbaronstatic:
I had it working on the 28014 12/15 build (think that was the date), but the patches I used no longer work with the updated sense build so far
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sumflipnol:
Oh, sorry about that. Maybe it's due to the fact that this is a completely new Leo package (I'm guessing nobody has made a fix for it yet). As of now, I'm just keeping the "stock" all black backgrounds.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] beerbaronstatic:
Yea thats what i'm doing for now too, was just curious if anyone had gotten it working.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] lufc:
This is a long way round but works for me i have Maxmanilla on the 28011 ROM and i find a pic that i want and re name it MaxBackground because thats what it is called in windows Dir then copy to the windows Dir and replace the pic thats in there soft reset and change max settings wallpaper to P Happy Days :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kameleongt:
im running28014 from the 17th with dusk them installed and also have max manilla runnin gover that. i have no issues setting up all tabs background and also changing the lock screen pic to show in start menu. ill be trying this new build in a few mins when i get home. posting while driving ftw. .
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] fuzio1963:
No. Who told u that?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] The Juggler:
Anyone know of a fix for the Wake on SMS?

The custom ROMs I've used so far (DeepShinning and Energy) both wake the phone when a new SMS arrives.

I tried installing TD2 Tools and changing the wake on SMS status, but it didn't make a difference. Although I did notice it changed the registry setting for HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL DisableSMSWakeUpEvent from 0 to 1. After a reboot it made no difference though.

EDIT: I've updated to 12/25 from 12/17 version and this seems to have corrected the wake on SMS issue I was having. By default the phone no longer wakes on receiving SMS. That will save me from accidentally dialing many people I am sure.

On another note, I am also experiencing the clock 1:02 issue. (I'm using the 21885 version). I have installed the fix from this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=583161. It fixes the 1:02 issue, but I have a couple other clock related glitches. (i.e. Sometimes the clock doesn't update at all. The Home screen shows 10:22 and the title bar clock shows 10:28).

Otherwise, I like the 12/25 version. It really seems to run smoothly. Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JonDeutsch:
Home screen weather animations

I'm running Dec17 build (which is pretty darned snazzy), and the weather animations on the home/today screen do work... but they don't seem to start unless I go to the today screen via exiting another app!

Does anyone know the secret to having the weather animations work each time you visit the home/today screen in Sense 2.5?

Any info appreciated.

Jon
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sumflipnol:
Weather animations only start if you "lost focus" on the Today screen. Basically, if you exit Manila/Today screen (Start Menu), then you go back to the Today screen, the animation works. If you open QuickMenu in the Today screen then close it, animation starts again.

Unfortunately, there's no animation toggle like in ValkyrieROMs, but I think we can all live with that!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] drew2000:
Thanks pyrorob!

Thank you for making this available, I could not get my MMS to work after installing the latest ROM (see signature) before I used the MMS fix "valkyrie MMS fix" found on the Wingster Site and it always worked great until this ROM. I gave your cab a try (the T-Mobile one) now everything works great. I made the manual changes in "connections" as well.

I would have had to switch back to the "17th" release if I had not found your post!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JonDeutsch:
Ahhh, I was afraid of that!

So... I have a follow-on question in an effort to work around this little limitation: Is there a manila commandline shortcut to the unfocused view of the today screen. There are many manila command line shortcuts out there (and documented for TF3D) -- I wonder if there's one for this specific view of the Sense home screen??

It's just that the home screen looks kinda dead w/o the animations (or background images -- which don't seem to work for me).

Thanks,

Jon
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pyro9219:
Sizing or Scaling issue?

Hello,

Does anyone know why / how to fix what I've demonstrated in the attached screenshot?

The top bar seems ultra thin, the bottom bar since extra thick which overlaps the slider buttons, and the tab contacts have a gap at the top.

It seems to me as if 25% of the lower bars thickness belongs to the top bar, and everything would be perfect then. Although I've got my suspicions that this problem runs a little deeper, as a few applications like SlingPlayer have unusable lower toolbars (Which I've used on other Rhodium Roms using the Dusk theme).

Other then that - I'm incredibly impressed with this work and look forward to more releases!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] spacemonkey333:
Go to the link below. Download the cab at the bottom of the post. That may help...

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4492692&postcount=3494
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] samery:
I think MaxManilla 2.7 version is not available yet on hotfile folder, am I right?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sirkula:
is there Volume Control fix .....I'm on MaxManila 28014 17.dec version
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rmkali:
Volume on 28011 is working. Yipppee! I saw a cab fix around in a post recently (yesterday, i think) for a different ROM i believe. In fact, it was a post i actually replied to... try here, post #4752.

Hope it helps.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rmkali:
Leo 28011 and MaxManila 2.7beta

Being the eager beaver that i am, i d/l'd NRG's Dec 25 28011 Leo, as soon as it was available. Not expecting MaxManila 2.7beta to be included, i installed it right after i flashed.

I am currently running both and took a 9 hour road trip today with them. The ROM seems noticeably more responsive than the 28014 and i like the changes Maxy made to Manila 2.7b, for instance you get to the settings page with either an up or down swipe (and even that's configurable). The My Location wasn't at all glitchy when going from area to area during my travels. Each location was reported accurately and without much delay. GPS was spot on and took less than 7 seconds to get a fix using Navigator or Google Maps.

I had an unusual occurrence though. Several times, while connected to the car charger the device displayed an error dialog box informing me that (paraphrasing) the power input was insufficient and i should close some programs. I unplugged the charger, as i had only one program running at the time and the charger felt like fire in my hand. I don't think that's suppose to happen. The phone was amazingly cool. I then left the phone unplugged while playing audio files and running Navigator. I would reconnect occasionally to give it brief charge when i would reenter the vehicle after any one of several stops.

Now, i'll be spending some time tracking down the culprit of this (unless some wise soul saves me on here first with a crack response) for a while because i am uncertain where to begin and further i recently changed my radio, as well.

Overall, things have been going along quite well, even after i attempted to install Dusk Theme (for the first time) and met with less than thrilling results. So, i'll be reflashing the 28011 ROM l8r today and start fresh with just that for a while to see if i can duplicate the error. Unfortunately, while it is reported in the Changelog that MyPhone has been updated, i still had to go through the obligatory upgrade and reboot before i could sync.

Any other news and i'lll report that, too.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] s1ugh34d:
Downloads found from google search for energy 29022

http://www.f1ip.net/plug.php?e=index&f=./Downloads/RhodiumFiles/Roms/EnergyRom

Jul 4 is at the bottom all versions(or most)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cfuess:
Maybe don't use the files from f1ip.net

I'm not sure if they are GSM or CDMA. It might be better to wait for the site to come back up.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
They are GSM. The CDMA ROMs from NRGZ28 normally carry RHOD.CDMA in the title. The link above is from the old mirror site that we used to use for people who couldn't get on Hotfile. It is safe.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] curiousrom:
Are those OS and unlocker applicable to the Rhodium?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
Is that sarcasm?

If not, the answer is no. It was an off-topic side discussion on Windows Phone 7 and Android options after leaving Rhodium.

My tilt 2 (Rhodium) ended it's life at the end of August. AT&T Insurance replaced it with an LG Quantum which is Windows Phone 7. That's what Chevron is related to.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] curiousrom:
Sorry, I thought it was a rodium thread and the last couple of pages confused me.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
It is a Rhodium thread. We got off topic talking about different devices since this ROM is discontinued. Sorry for the confusion.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nallyvaico:
Discontinued??? You mean you can't download it any longer, or it malfunctions on rhodium? I bought the verizon version for myself in August, and have enjoined the device and the ROM since. Before, I had also tried an Android device - HTC Desire Z - and had been using both side by side for a week or two, until I realized Android wasn't really for me as a phone. I am using it as a multimedia gadget - great as a player (flac, ape and all that). Android device have one serious flaw for me that hasn't been resolved: they can't be fully synced with outlook. So, TP2 will rock for me for a year or even 2, no matter how ancient it would seem (btw, one of my collegues still uses SonyEricsson P910i - the device I had centuries ago)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
He means that there will not be any updates to the ROM. The chef is not actively working on this any longer. But the latest version is very good and stable.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] huszonnegy:
email problem

I have a big problem with the email accounts.

After I've flashed this cooked rom, and I ahd set up my email account. It started to download ALL of my emails (about 6000) :(

In the original software I had an option to display messages that are "x" days old max. only.

Can I set this in this software too?

Many thanks in advance!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mineshkp:
speaker phone call waiting issue

I generally talk on speaker phone and when I get a call in waiting, the first person can't hear my voice. This problem was not there in the prev. ROM.

---------- Post added at 07:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:42 PM ----------

I got something from the first page, I have done as instructed, lets see, will report tomorrow. Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
It's definately possible.

I no longer have my Tilt 2, but I used to only have 1 account of 6 get all my emails. The others would just sync the last 30 days. You might have to adjust it through Start Settings, instead of the Settings tab.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jenda.69:
Hi, I'm using Sense version of EnergyROM from July 4th and I can't run any OpenGL ES apps (e.g. GLBenchmark)... There is /windows/libgles_cm.dll file, but it doesn't work... :(

Could anybody who has working GL-ES send me this file? Thank you!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] talon4x4:
Haven't been on in a while and I was just wondering if updating to this ROM has now stopped?? I see the last update was July 7th.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hefman:
I haven't flashed a new rom in a while, but , if memory serves, the problem is it will have to download

all

the emails on first sync, then it will toss out any that are outside the 30-day window. After that, the phone will only download new messages, but, for some reason, it doesn't have a way to determine age before they are downloaded the first time.

Edit: if you want to double check that setting. Go to the WM native "Messaging" program (in the Internet folder in the Start menu). The option can be found in the account options, under "Send/Receive Schedule"...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gromky:
I wanted to install the "EnergyROM Build 23xxx Sense 2.5 Cookie 2.0 Energy" image. I didn't see which file to download...I tried "Energy.RHODIUM.29022.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Jul.04.7z" but it doesn't look like the screenshot. It has the tiny start button in the upper left corner instead the large button in the lower left. Am I using the right file?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
In general, yes. This is the final version.

NRGZ28 is cooking Android Roms now. There was a a little talk of a new ROM potentially coming out, but that was a few weeks ago.

Of course at any time, NRGZ28 could cook a new ROM, but with no new updates from HTC or Microsoft and very little if any app updates, there is not much need.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hefman:
29022 should have the larger start menu on the bottom. You can check your OS version by going to the Settings tab, selecting "About phone" and "Software Information". If it says something other than 5.2.29022... then you either didn't download the file you think you did or you did not flash it correctly.

Let us know what you found.