yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G1 Android Development] camalot:
Just an FYI, the browser doesn't have to come out of the ROMs, only the stuff that is not in the base android builds. you can launch the emulator to see what it includes.

I can maybe help some, I can not commit to any specific project though.
[G1 Android Development] camalot:
They are licensed to do so. Just like T-Mobile pays to have them included so they can say "with Google".

I wonder what licensing would cost, I bet a large majority of the 30K CM Updater users would donate to cover the licensing... even if its only a $1 each...
[G1 Android Development] ttabbal:
Pretty much. Personally, I'd love to have a basic release by Monday. :D If we play well together, I think we can pull it off. If CM-Updater can be live in less than 24 hours, I think we can go this. Just the setup wizard and contacts sync.

How about calendar, is that open source? I haven't ever looked into it. Maps, IM, and E-Mail apps are in the Market. Of course, we don't have a market either, but there are some options there to get us started.

Anyone wanting to work on apps other than the setup and sync are more than welcome to join up and get going. I don't want to discourage anyone from working on anything they want to contribute. All are welcome.
[G1 Android Development] thepeng:
Erm, I can't code. Although Android convinced me to learn and Im starting school for it in december. I guess I just want to say I'm thrilled you guys are doing this, keep it up, long live the people's android and if you need a tester, or anything else, let me know.

cheers
[G1 Android Development] BoxyD:
For the people out there that want to help but don't know much about coding. This is probably last on the list when it comes to priority but we are going to need icons, images, backgrounds, wallpapers, etc. So if you got some mad skills at graphic design or photoshop that would be of help. At the very least the apps we create are going to look good! :D

Oh and if you do want to learn how to program for Android. Start here http://developer.android.com/guide/index.html

You got to give to Google, their documentation is top notch. Hands down one of the best I've seen.

I also saw a lot of people here say they know C++. Most of you here probably know this already but Java is similar to C++ syntax wise so it shouldn't be too hard to pickup. Java is also has some great documentation online http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/index.html
[G1 Android Development] irrenhaus:
Ahm just found something.

Y'all know that we have a GoogleContactsProvider in the open source tree of android?

http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/packages/providers/GoogleContactsProvider.git;a=summary

Anyone out there who knows it? Could make everything simpler.

edit: Jep, there is a ContactsSyncAdapter.java which is an adapter which completely syncs the phone contacts with google in both directions.
[G1 Android Development] ttabbal:
I added issues for the things mentioned in the first post. If there is something I haven't covered, let me know. I have a standard blurb in there about allowing an existing app, including closed for an initial build, not sure if we want to go that route or not. I would require written permission to distribute the application at a minimum to avoid misunderstandings like the current situation with Cyanogen (and everyone else as well!)

Non-coders are welcome to join up and contribute in whatever way they feel they can. Testers are always a big help, graphics, documents, UI design, project managment, whatever. The project page has a wiki and other ways to share docs and other files, so if you want to contribute in ways other than code, just let me know and I'll add you to the project.
[G1 Android Development] ttabbal:
Oh very cool! Even better! I wonder if we need to add any plumbing other than configuring it with the setup wizard?
[G1 Android Development] irrenhaus:
There is a GoogleContactsProvider.java in the same directory.

Both are implementations of a syncadapter or a contacts provider.

Both are not accessable from the SDK.

So I think if we compile against the code, not against the SDK this should easily work. Tests have to be done.

The linking against the source code is no problem :)

I have to sleep now I will look into this tomorrow I think.

But it seems as it could really be easy :)

edit: It seems that all we have to do is configuring the google login service which seems to be in the source tree. So I will look at the code and maybe I'll find the point where we have to configure it. After configuring it we just register the google contacts provider. And this should do it all. The syncing seems to be done by android itself. But I'm not shure, just a quick shot. Really need to sleep now
[G1 Android Development] ytj87:
This is all an awesome idea. I have no doubt the AMAZING devs here could pull this off.

But, why do we want to drive traffic to a company that kicks us in the teeth like this?
[G1 Android Development] citizen-erased:
cheers !!!

I actualy think is awsome stuff

Its sad about cyans ...

Anyways let's move on

I'm no dev or don't know much I very new

But I'm here for support guys

Cheers

This is how new beautiful things rise by making us.

Little shout out tho

What if u guys use the heros browsers make it look wayyyy fancier

Just a shout out thanx

Cheers
[G1 Android Development] jjcd51590:
First of all this has developed pretty far in the hours i was away and we takin off nothing can stop us from reaching our goal now.

second while yes hero browser does look pretty BA it is closed sorry and we have decided

ALL

apps must be

OPEN

source not just free
[G1 Android Development] cacahahacaca:
It's called the Stockholm Syndrome.
[G1 Android Development] jjcd51590:
The New Site is: Home of Open Android Alliance

Here is where we can minimize all the clutter, all i want in this thread is only if you are interested in developing/themeing/ect. for our Open Android Alliance Project. ttabbal can add these to the Google code page if he would like :)

EDIT: Sorry I am not gonna add anymore. When the new site is up we will continue just register there and put in your signature what you do and contact info, this way we can pair app devs with theme devs if needed to create some awesome looking apps that are easy to use.

EDIT:

I honestly didnt think it would get this big with so many supporters i want to thank you guys and look forward to seeing you on the other site where we can get down to business by appointing project leaders in each area that can help me with how everyone is doing cause this is very overwhelming at the moment haha.

Im seeing alot of big names here and we dont really need all that many testers at the moment i think the

devs should test because they know what to look for. Anyone want to lead a certain section of development

such as a head developer im really looki ng for somone with alot of experiance in each catagory i would *really*

like for cyan to help lead the development side or maybe jean-baptiste if he would ever get back with me he

prolly blew me off anyone want to get him to contact me?

anyone want to be my designated spell checker/grammar checker? (lol)

MEMBERS:

1. Jjcd51590- manager/organizer

2. Evilpig- Website host/organization

3. Tito- tester (weekends mainly)

4. Uiterlix- java

5. Ohsaka- java (part time)

6. Thepeng- support/testing

7. Dta1974- spanish-english translator

8. Ohwut- Write ups/testing

9. Manup456- theme developer/visual designer

10. Bbutlerau- visuals

11. nephron- testing

12. lowtraxx- german/java/some C++

13. deathwish238- app/system

14. metal_huralnt- web/various (undecided)

15. irrenhaus- app/system

16. akapoor- building/testing

17. techinkdev- visuals

18. doubleokneegro- visuals

19. Kintera- sounds (would really like custom sounds to set us apart)

PS. I have no use for your email other then contacting you about the project do not worry if u feel unsafe send it in a PM

on over and register
[G1 Android Development] jjcd51590:
Application

Jjcd51590

Managing/organize/testing

Any

jjcd51590@gmail.com
[G1 Android Development] evilpig:
Evilpig

Website/testing/organization

I could get a website running on my webhosting and allow downloads, news, faq, anything we need along with a forum.I have many years webhosting/design experience so don't worry about this

PM me for my info.

I am currently going to school and working a job but I still have time every day to keep the site running and helping out where needed.

http://android.teamriot.net I am gonna get a basic blog and forum running today hopefully. I have purchased www.openandroidalliance.com and it will be up in 12-24 hours :D (actually someone else on this site registered it right before me and has something else there. I gotta talk to him again and sort this out)

Also, if you view the site on an iPhone or Android, it has a slick mobile theme :D

evilpigster [a-t] gmail
[G1 Android Development] ~~Tito~~:
~~Tito~~:

What you are comfortable working with: Testing

What you enjoy working with: ROMs, apps, anything that I can handle

How to get a hold of you: Gtalk: rurouni.kenshin14
[G1 Android Development] jjcd51590:
"google" android is dead XDAndroid has just been born.

Want to be part of the revolution?

Sign up to help on this thread
[G1 Android Development] Ohsaka:
I'll be glad to help out where I can with this. I am a professional software developer. Over ten years Java experience. Whenever you guys run into some hairy Java problems let me know and I can help you get them worked out. I work alot so I don't have a ton of free time, else I would have contributed more than just colorChanger.jar by now.
[G1 Android Development] uiterlix:
Anything java..

twitter.com/uiterlix
[G1 Android Development] lapalways05:
Devs made Android 5x better. Let's make the replacement apps 10x better ehh?

If we do this, it'll make nonrooted users root their phones and get the replacement apps.

Wow I so wanted to abandon my phone but this project is exciting.
[G1 Android Development] lapalways05:
Please delete.
[G1 Android Development] jjcd51590:
while functionality comes before form we can also make them look a lot better also that's there is a big demand for theme and visual designers as well in this project
[G1 Android Development] thepeng:
Ill test, picket, donate, whatever you devities need besides code.

Username is thepeng

Contact taig.theman@gmail.com

Lets save our droids.
[G1 Android Development] dumfuq:
I think this is really what we need. I know I've enjoyed performing felatio on google up till now, but it is probably not that healthy in the long run anyways. They did give us a good starting point though. A true 100% open source phone, by the people for the people, would do wonders for everybody. Hell, I only got this phone because it was based on linux. Go community go.
[G1 Android Development] ~~Tito~~:
I have to add, I have full access to a computer on the weekends mostly since my dad took my computer at his house. . .:cool:
[G1 Android Development] happyface_0:
The whole weekend? You are a very valuable asset to the development community!
[G1 Android Development] dta1974:
USERNAME: dta1974

What you are comfortable working with: Betatester,spanish-english-spanish translations.

What you enjoy working with: (any of the above)

How to get a hold of you: lovemyg1@yahoo.com
[G1 Android Development] ~~Tito~~:
LOL, if I really want to be an asset I need to be able to work during the week too :cool:.
[G1 Android Development] jjcd51590:
lets keep it clean so its easier to understand sorry sign-ups only
[G1 Android Development] david1171:
theme-ing

david1171

themes, testing, (not in the OP but i am very patient with helping people with their g1 problems)

email: david1171jones@gmail.com

i work shifts between 12pm to 11pm

usually screwing around on my laptop a few hours out of the day.

i enjoy theme-ing and would love to put my skills (however mediocre to use for this)
[G1 Android Development] cacahahacaca:
Hey guys, doesn't this project overlap with the Android Open Source Project?

By the way Jean-Baptiste Queru, a Google Engineer who works on Android, is pretty pissed about the Cyanogen situation and said " I'm gonna look for ways to make the Android Open-Source Project relevant "as is" as a user-oriented build.":

http://twitter.com/jbqueru

Maybe you should get in contact with him to focus your efforts in the most efficient way possible?
[G1 Android Development] ohwut:
Ohwut

Fundingish, Graphic Design, Testing, First year java type stuff, I have a minor in English....so spell checking? Android Dev Market account and a ADP

Average Time you can put in: 60 hours a week most likely. Anytime after 7PM PST, all times weekends.

Time you can generally work: ^^
[G1 Android Development] cacahahacaca:
Please see here for more on Jean-Baptiste Queru's effort to make the Android Open Source Project usable:

http://groups.google.com/group/android-platform/browse_thread/thread/cfd4181d56c05a7a

I really think you guys should join forces with him.
[G1 Android Development] jjcd51590:
thanks for bringing him to my attention i have tweeted him ill see how he responds
[G1 Android Development] manup456:
Manup456

Theme Developer/Graphic Designer
[G1 Android Development] jjcd51590:
Request

Alright i have done my best to organize alot of OAA efforts now i have a small request you dont have to do it i was wondering if you could put a link to the main Project: open android thread to spread word around you dont have to advertise but i am not exactly a respected member so alot of people over look me i was hoping if more peope had it it would grow much bigger

thanks alot,

jjcd51590
[G1 Android Development] BrooklynAvi:
Nice Idea but...

As much as I disagree with Google (in that they should come to an agreement and somehow license the apps out to ROM devs), I don't think this will be of any real use in the near future (perhaps waaaay down the line). The bottom line is that some apps are simply not replaceable. I hate to say it but the Market is pretty important. Gmail is almost a necessity however I can get away with using the Email app. Is the Browser closed source? Didn't think it was. Opera Mini absolutely sucks on Android. Steel was good but the devs on XDA made the built in browser soooo much better than the Steel especially since Steel never got updated. Maps is a free download so that's done.

But here's the important part. My calendar, which is my lifeline to the world, syncs with Google and I like it that way. I use no less than a dozen Google products before I even get out of bed (my phone is next to my bed, LOL). I use Adsense, Analytics, Bookmarks, Apps (Mail, Calendar, Docs), Reader (so ridiculously important that I'm never giving this one up), Blogger and the list goes on and on. And that's all before I had my coffee. I can't live without my Google products. They do it better than the rest. How does anyone plan on replacing that? And before anyone brings up Android as an example of what devs can do as compared with Google, it has nothing to do with their closed-source products which are simply incredible. Anyone who doesn't want to admit that is fooling themselves since we all bought the G1 for that exact reason.

And remember, this is all coming from the guy who started the petition at http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/cyanmod/. This is going to be a touch thing to accomplish, if it's even possible. I hope to eat my words. Good luck and I will be following the progress.

EDIT: I even forgot to add the two biggies from Google: My phones and Google.com. LOL.
[G1 Android Development] ~~Tito~~:
For the sync app, HTC works wonders. It helps me. :cool: It even have a Apk installer. We just need to leave it in hero roms and include an installer on the side.
[G1 Android Development] johnt2k:
well here are 3 places to get your roms from and 2 are apps other is just a website that could be used within astro to download apks and install them

http://andappstore.com/AndroidApplications/apps/!index

http://slideme.org/applications

http://anda.pk/

and here is a possible contact sync its from t mobile

http://www.cyrket.com/package/com.voxmobili.sync.MobileBackup
[G1 Android Development] jjcd51590:
yea this is a long term project with many steps along the way i am waitiong on loccy to see if i can use her browser because it is infact open source (yea fooled me to) as for everything else we are working on it haha all i can tell you at this moment
[G1 Android Development] bbutlerau:
I have been following the XDA thread since the start and have made a few posts. I would love to become one of the contributers

I sadly don't have much coding xp but I know you need more than just devs. I'm pretty handy with graphic design and have a look in the thread to see my ideas there.

However I do intend to learn android app development so I can help there soon

I work 5 days but have free time after and on weekends. Although this is nighttime in Sydney Australia so mornings in the USA

Basically whatever I can do please send my way

Cheers

Brad (bbutlerau@gmail.com)

PS we should make an IRC chat for this rather than loooong threads
[G1 Android Development] nephron:
i would be glad to test. I have 2 G1's and a MyTouch on the way. Im free any day and usually always online (online doesnt mean im at the comp :D)
[G1 Android Development] cacahahacaca:
Have you heard back from Jean-Baptiste Queru yet?
[G1 Android Development] bbutlerau:
i'm pretty sure the browser is OS seeming its web-kit based. the calendar is OS too isnt it? if not if we could code an app to sync with a local pc then you could sync with thunderbird which can sync with google .... long way round but it could work. My biggest concern is gmail. if we replace it can we still get push email from gmail?
[G1 Android Development] DelsaDj:
I'm creating a website for Android Open Source Project..

if you like http://aosp.altervista.org/

say to me what platform I must install... joomla??

online in 20 minutes
[G1 Android Development] cacahahacaca:
I think it's great to make a website for *OpenAndroid*, or *XDAndroid*. But keep in mind that there is already an official "Android Open Source Project" website out there:

http://source.android.com/

(it was created way before this whole Google vs. Cyanogen mess started)
[G1 Android Development] DelsaDj:
ah..ok... say to me if I must continue or stop :)

I've made an idea of logo :D logo
[G1 Android Development] bbutlerau:
Love the logo...
[G1 Android Development] DelsaDj:
thanks..... :D

My idea is to create a website and a forum created by all, which polls for the choice of colors, templates, for everything ... and respects the spirit of open source: D

P.S. sorry for my english
[G1 Android Development] BoxyD:
@bbutlerau

The browser comes with the Android OS. Calendar is a closed source Google app. I don't know much about other calendar apps that would make viable alternatives

For syncing contacts there's the T-Mobile Backup app and this app (http://www.cyrket.com/package/vcard.io). Both are available for download.

For Gmail you can use the stock Email app but that just sux. I just tried out K-9 email app and its much better, its comparable to Gmail and its open source too.

Youtube app is not a big IMO. Meebo can be used for Google Talk and IM.

I need to check the source for Android but I should be able to write the Voice Dialer and Voice Search apps. It depends if Google is going to include the packages to access their voice translation service (I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't).

Really the Market is the biggest obtacle. Yes there are alternatives but the selection is extremely limited. *sigh*
[G1 Android Development] bbutlerau:
Damn i thiougth calendar was OS. BTW the t-mobile backup app... not so great for dream owners.. i.e not G1.
[G1 Android Development] DelsaDj:
one question..is possible to port moblin 2.1 on our devices??

it's all open source...

and soon moblin will have the ability to access Android content

more info
[G1 Android Development] DameonAndMeagan:
Why doesn't Google just charge for the close-sourced apps and post them on the market for download. Then we wouldn't have this problem. Wish I new how to develop, otherwise I would help out but I'm clueless. Hope everything gets worked out!! Many thanks to all devs that make all the impossible, possible!!!
[G1 Android Development] lowtraxx:
What you are comfortable working with: Everything java as well as german - english - german translation

What you enjoy working with: C++ System stuff as well as java

How to get a hold of you: xxx (comes by pm)

Average Time you can put in: Depends on how busy i am at my job

Time u can generally work: weekends and weekdays after 18:00 (as said, if my job permits it)
[G1 Android Development] chevycowboyusa:
I paid for them when i bought my phone

I paid for them when i bought my phone!

Why would I want to pay for them again?

most of them can be replaced, or stored to the sdcard and then restored.
[G1 Android Development] farmatito:
you can use whatever mail client to send/recieve gmail mails
[G1 Android Development] TittieBaby:
To my understanding, Tmo pays Google for the use of the Google apps and Brand.
[G1 Android Development] TermyJW:
USERNAME: TermyJW

What you are comfortable working with: Not much of a developer really... only now learning Visual Basic at College!

What you enjoy working with: I would be happy to help testing, and am a dab hand at forum work.

How to get a hold of you: termyjw (guess) googlemail.com

Average Time you can put in: At least 3 or 4 hours each day.

Time u can generally work: During the day some days, evenings and Saturdays mostly. (GMT)
[G1 Android Development] dubbeld00:
Java / C++ / C / PHP / Designer

So Evilpig if you need any help with the website please PM me

I'm also willing to develop for android

Average time you can put i: Not that much... but I can do much in little time

How to get a hold of you: PM me

Time u can generally work: 18.00 (6PM) GMT+01:00
[G1 Android Development] bbutlerau:
Yeah but the ability to send receive is different to "push" email where you dont have to manually check your emails... they get forwarded like a sms
[G1 Android Development] Deathwish238:
USERNAME: Deathwish238

What you are comfortable working with: Anything involving Java, but willing to learn new things too

What you enjoy working with: Apps, System...I'm no Themer.

How to get a hold of you: gtalk/gmail: akroy238 at gmail.com

Average Time you can put in: 10 hours a week

Time u can generally work: 12pm-4am...very school load dependent
[G1 Android Development] farmatito:
If you have background data syncing always enabled otherwise it is like standard email in the sense that you get it when you check or enable background data (eats battery!)
[G1 Android Development] veritasaequita:
and there it is, thats what i been screaming for days...paid in full!!!!
[G1 Android Development] Metal_Hurlant:
I won't do a firm commitment yet, but this sounds interesting.

I've been circling the Android platform for a little while now, wondering what to dive into. So this could be nice.

Specifically, I'm interested in seeing a viable, usable, purely open-source distribution of Android.

username: metal_hurlant

I code for food and for fun. Mostly web-related stuff. I'm usually unable to come up with something visually pleasant on my own, although working with UED folks has at least taught me a thing or two about basic user interaction principles.

I won't work on the IM or mail components, but the other pieces should be fair game.

Getting a hold of me: on yahoo messenger, message "t34ch_m3_h0w_t0_h4ck". That's the most reliable way. I check my PMs on here too. As a last resort, you can try to email "metalbot@yahoo.com".

time commitment: no idea yet.

I'm going to throw some code together, and if it starts to look like something useful for this project's purpose, I'll let you know.