yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bo79:
HTC Sense (TouchFLO 3D) 2.1 supports landscape. But there you are missing some nice features from Sense 2.5. You can take a look at wingster.com to compare the versions. (many screenshots)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] beerbaronstatic:
If anyone wants to enable G-Sensor rotation in Opera Mobile 10 as well:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4976155&postcount=900
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] EQUiLiiBRiUM:
I can confirm this ! :mad: It was the only thing that bugged me about the 23088 build. Everything else was Super fast but using it as a Disk drive was like an Hour to copy over a nbh file. Since I flash via SD card this was a no go ! I"m on 21869 and the Disk Drive Feature is back to normal Tranfer Speeds :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bworls:
I just went to Start > Tools > G-Config pulled out the stylus went to Start > Opera Mobile 10 Beta put the stylus back and reset.

Does the registry edit do something more or better?

Brad
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] alesaso:
How do you set default system browser?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] beerbaronstatic:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Rai\ EFBROWSER\1

I had to make sure I surrounded the new value for Opera mobile 10 with " on both sides
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] beerbaronstatic:
Nope, that utility does the exact same thing, I just like knowing the registry value to add to my registry script that I import when I flash a new ROM
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jpoirier587:
ahhhhhh this rom wont download fast enough!!!! i cant wait to try it out. all i can say is thank god for sashimi :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] alesaso:
It worked but it loses the page snapshot for the favorites on the internet tab
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwill:
NRGZ, please dont cook Opera 10 in as its slow at rendering pages. The zoom features are useless because its either zoomed all the way in or all the way out, with no way to adjust as ur reading the page. As well, the text takes a while to clear when you zoom in and out. Just a thought for the 23088 build you'll be releasing. Maybe its faster cooked in, but right now its terrible.A
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] beerbaronstatic:
Hmmm, I don't use those so I'm not sure about that
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shure2:
dont know what version of opera 10 you are using but its far superior to 9.7 for me.

slow at rendering pages? I see checker board all over 9.7 but I rarely see any white rendering area when scrolling in 10.

It takes about 0.5-1 second to render the text when you zoom? I cant remember this being any quicker in opera 9.7

FYI you can adjust the zoom in settings to a set percentage - this does need to be change to the old method imo, but its easy to live with.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ANDROiD KiLLSWiTCH:
21869 merged branch?

I cant find a screen shot of this build. Is this a merged branch now, or is this still the older style with the OK at the top? I am so used to the 'X' at bottom that I cant go back, even for faster stability. :rolleyes:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] beerbaronstatic:
21869 looks identical to the 21864, the x/ok and start menu are at the top again.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwill:
True, you never see the checker board. But, the time it takes to zoom in and clear up the text is about as annoying as the checkerboard when scrolling:D I did adjust the zoom to lower percentage and I see you noticed what I'm talking about. Some pages I need to zoom in further to click certain items and I don't want everything zoomed in at 240%. Last note is, I opened Opera 9.7 with only 35 mb of ram left. I tried that with Opera 10 and as it was loading the page it tells me that my program memory is too low to finish loading the page.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bworls:
Observation,

With 21864, the SMS Screen Off.cab does not seem to work anymore. Would someone know of a work around?

Thanks,

Brad
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Zahurtex:
Don't even think about Memory!

I have been Bashed by NRGZ once back in my older days of Touch Pro upon asking a similar question about memory usage... see my query and a wonderful reply from the Chef dated: 3rd August 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zahurtex View Post

I am using chef's latest rom version and one thing I wanted to understand and it's really about the ram usage by the cooked roms. Not long ago but about the a month back the previous versions used to take up about 40% of the ram as compared to stock roms they take around 30% to 34% at the max. Now all the new versions I am not talking about the NRGs roms but other cooked roms as well they take 50% right at the moment you flashed them and after some navigation and menu settings they show 54% and thisis before even you install any application.

Now my question is which is really bothering me that should a operating system take up more than a half portion of the available ram? because after installation of different applications and running them leaves a little ram behind, as I was running opera browser the other day and started facebook the opera started to give insufficient memory error I had to shut the facebook application.

Isn't pda's are mini computers meant for running diff. application (multitasking) and if we just install a hefty rom which consumes all the valuable working ram then what is the use? How long a person can navigate and scroll through menus and and other system folders...because when it comes to business its not upto the mark.

Originally Posted by NRGZ28 View Post

What you don't understand is that this ROM has WAAAAY more applications loaded in it compared to a stock ROM. Stuff running in the background to support things like.. the new notification manager, the email enhacement graphics, the finger menus, the start menu icons, the new dialer, the rhodium manila.. etc all take up ADDITIONAL RAM compared to a stock ROM. We have so much RAM anyway.. why is this even an issue ? Is it really worth it to get all worked up about it ? Enjoy the ROM and get on with your life :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] fmedrano1977:
That cab I posted worked on my current rom, guessing something is different on the newer ones.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pbeutler:
Fantastic! Thanks man.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hx4700 Killer:
Lol, well if it just used 60% and stayed at 60% while not in use there would be no complaint here ;) All in all though I am staying with the may 16th ROM as it IS doing that. I just added 3 of the dinik cabs so I get the top/bottom and settings pages looking nice. I was a little slowed down by all the new dinik icons because I had grown used to the icons in the earlier roms.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rob_p:
Oooh, how does one go about putting the standard windows lock screen into HDMini mode? Is there a cab to skin it somewhere?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
You got it right: this is a question for Cookie's thread.

Let me take this opportunity to vent a little bit (not at anyone in particular): As you all may or may not have noticed, I try to help a lot, either by creating and maintaining the FAQ, or by collecting and reporting bugs to the Chef, or by responding to people's questions and issues, when I know the answer.

However, I am getting more and more discouraged to do so, for these reasons:

1- People keep asking questions without providing BASIC information such as the specific ROM being used, the steps they took to get to the problem, the things they did in order to try to resolve.

2- There are MANY posts wasted with pointless debates such as RAM usage. RAM usage varies according to the way you use your phone, the frequency you reboot it, the programs you use, etc. As the Chef said, it is what it is. He cooks the ROMs the way he wants, we provide feedback, sometimes he takes it, sometimes he does not. It is HIS ROM, and HIS choice. So, lets move on and focus on something that WE can influence.

3- A lot of the latest posts here are related to Sense, MaxSense, CHT, etc. issues and not to the ROM itself. NRGZ did not create Sense, MaxSense, CHT, etc. and he cannot fix them. So, if you have an issue, suggestion, complaint about any of these, please post on their respective threads - that will help their developers to improve them.

4- People keep asking questions without first trying to help themselves. A rule of thumb: before posting the question/issue, read the last 2-3 days of posting (and of course the first pages of the thread). If the problem exists indeed, it is likely someone already reported and perhaps even found a fix. If no one reported the issue before and the ROM has been available for a few days already, it is likely that it is something specific to your configuration. Try to reproduce it with a bare ROM (flash and don't install anything). If you are convinced there is a bug, by all means report it using the format I suggest in my sig.

5- I read more people complaining than people trying to find solutions. This is not a help desk service. This is a community of people trying to extend the limits of their phones beyond the "stock". So, do your share and research, test, experiment, and report. Try to add more than you take.

I am sorry for venting and for the long posting. I just want to make sure that this thread becomes more productive and we can help NRGZ to improve his already excellent ROMs.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] prag16:
Right. I'm D/Ling the 5/16 version as we speak. Debating flashing back to it. That version used 60% and stayed there. New version uses closer 70%, then leaks until it's well over 80% (even though I'm not doing anything). Definitely looks like it coincides with the new kitchen switch...

In my car the other day I had S2P playing through my car stereo, I had opera open (checking baseball scores), and Tom Tom open for navigation. In earlier ROMs this same thing went off without a hitch. Recently I have WM automatically shutting down Opera and/or S2P in this situation due to low memory :( :( :(

As was said, it is indeed very frustrating that the Fuze, even in the new ROMs has 20MB more memory than the TP2....

Well anyway, I also may consider changing the pagepool on the latest ROM. Nobody answered when I asked several pages back; has anybody experienced any ill effects from lowering this to say 8MB?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jhernand1102:
Someone posted a return to stock cab in the MaxSense thread, look for that and it will do what you want...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] porkenhimer:
I wanna try a new radio. Everything I have read says its just like flashing a new rom. I downloaded a radio and the folder has the ruu and radio inside. The radio has the number.nbh as the file name. When I open the rom update utility it ask to confirm I want to update the image meaning do I wanna update the rom. Can someone tell me in detail how to change the radio?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
Read "Flashing your First GSM Rhodium Rom (For Noobs)" at http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=550540
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DeMiNe0:
I'm having issues exporting and re-importing my e-mail settings with XDA_UC. I followed Both Tutorials here: http://www.energyroms.com/Addons/XDA_UC Related/Tutorials/

I renamed the xml files that were outputted to email.xml and exchange.xl respectively, and placed them in the root of the XDA_UC folder on my SD Card.

XDA_UC runs's, but my mail settings won't get imported. I re-ran xda_UC but it still won't import them. It imports all the settings in the Exporter folder(Made by The Energy Settings Exporter) just fine. I looked in the xml files, and they do have the correct data in them.

Has anyone gotten this to work?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] LordFuzzy024:
Are you using 2 seperate files or one? If two you need to combine them into one XML file and try again. If you look at NRG's example it shows everything in one file.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hx4700 Killer:
Prag,

I have tried the pagepool changer utility and it says it changed the pool size, the file date changed etc... but when I flashed the rom the ram utilitzation was exactly the same as the unchanged ROM so for whatever reason I don't think the page pool size actually changed. I was trying to find a utility that would report the pagepool size from within the ROM itself so I could absolutely comfirm the size but havent found one yet. Maybe I will make one.

Even so, making more RAM available initially won't address the ram loss over time issue so :(

I am curious, I note you use exchange as well. I am wondering if that is a common factor that due to the constant link there is a problem and doesnt happen with a POP account.

mmalka,

You seem to be the energy thread police as I have witnessed you jump on lots of people for posting things you don't agree with or think is stupid/has been answered. You do also give good advice and help, not trying to slam you here.

The Chef has said his peace, I have said mine regarding the memory issues. Getting pissed helps no one. Frankly "It is what it is" is a pretty thin response. It has been said and substantiated that as little as 2 weeks ago the problem DOES NOT EXIST.

What is the difference between saying "I cant get my email" or "SMS doesnt work right" VS "Hey, I think we have a ram useage issue here" ?? I can tell you in my mind... the difference is the level of difficulty in tracking down the problem and correcting it.

If the Chef doesnt want to fix it, so be it but I reported a potential problem and asked for help just like everyone else. Just because you or the Chef don't wan't to hear it won't stop me from talking about it particularly if it gets worse.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cerealfreak:
Nah dude, go into CHT Editor lockscreen settings, slide the HDMini to on :)

It has been asked by the Chef that we stop discussing memory issues here, it isn't a ROM issue, it's a Windows Mobile Issue, if you two want to continue to discuss it may I suggest a more appropriate forum.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
To be fair, it's often difficult (impossible ?) to know if a "problem" we're seeing is specific to Sense/MaxSense/CHT/whatever. e.g. if messaging doesn't work in a CHT ROM then how do we know if it's a CHT/ROM/Sense issue ?

Sorry but I think you're being kinda unrealistic here. Fair enough if a problem is declared as being directly a MaxSense/CHT/etc issue then further discussion of it can be taken out of this thread. But often there will need to be a discussion to work out exactly where the problem lies.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmicha:
Look Before You Leap

ooooooookayyyy......

First of all, there was NO attitude, I was just kidding around poking fun at MYSELF about ass-uming....you might have heard that one before, you do have a sense of humor, right buddy?

Second, if YOU would have taken time to read the thread, and my original post, you would see that NRG STILL (at the time of this posting) has Energy.RHODIUM.23569.Sense2.5.Cookie.Jun.06.7z up, but took down the revision 2 that he had uploaded before, which caused me to ask if the one that is there now was revised to address any of those issues.

I ALWAYS try to search and help myself first, which is why I am not always posting questions, since there are a of of great people here helping others by posting relative, POSITIVE info.

I am also here to help others, and I am starting by trying to help you develop your sense of humor ;)

Before you reply to this, please know I am not taking this totally seriously, and see that you seem to post / help out a lot on this forum, and THAT is appreciated.

Best Regards,

Michael
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hx4700 Killer:
Hey policeman,

I was answering a question and giving my results so unpucker and let people talk.

Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
That's only for the CHT lockscreen, isn't it ? When I turn off the CHT lockscreen, then having the setting you mention set to "HD Mini" doesn't seem to make any difference.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmicha:
Amen to that hx4700 Killer!

Someone needs to put some Xanax in their "cereal" in the morning ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] porkenhimer:
Can someone please help me flash a new radio? I have read everything and it is still not workin. I don't want a link to look somewhere cause I have probably read it already. I need a step by step response. Please!

My problem is that when I download the radio it has the radio and ruu in one folder and when I open the ruu it ask if I am sure I wanna update the rom image. The radio file has the radio number with file extention nbh. Is this right? Do I change the name of the radio file or is there a setting in the ruu I am overlooking?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] biggmixx:
if u go to shortcuts, add a shortcut for weather toggle, and toggle it on....then delete if u have to
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
I am not going to debate with you to prevent this thread to be even more clogged. So, if you want to discuss, please send me a PM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mickey690:
You are doing it right the radio flashes the same way as a rom. You will notice when it flashes it only takes a few seconds to flash! Just do it. Back everything up first if your worried but there's no need unless you unplug during the flash or something.

If you had read everyhting in the radio collection thread then you would have seen how to do it in the first post. Also this isn't really rom realted!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
I agree. However, that is not always the case, as you can see on the recent posts.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] derylmccarty:
+1

But let me add:

6 - We drive out good and great chefs. They ain't gettin' a paycheck for cooking ROMs for our testing and perusal - the few bucks we donate only pay for beer or coffee and occasionally a PDA for testing but probably not using. And the great ones like Da_G, NRG, Duttys etc can only take so much abuse for so long and then they're out of here (anyone hear from Monx anymore - I thought not). They do have a life and their choices are often pretty stark and sometimes mutually exclusive: "code", "eat" or "get laid".

Just my $00.02
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Thanks. That's what I got told in the Cookie thread too (after I posted it there, before you answered here). But I was also told it was the same in 1.7. Now I never did this in 1.7 - there used to be weather wallpapers you could select.

Which goes back to my point about asking in this thread. So perhaps after all, it was a question for this thread and not Cookie's one ? e.g. given how wallpapers might be different between ROMs etc.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=681743
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
It has to do with Sense. I'm using SPB Pocket Plus and after 12 hours I have little if any memory loss. I do notice that some of my applications steal memory and don't return it, but that it a different issue. I booted up at 102Mb yesterday at 1600 and today at 0900 I'm at 94Mb.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
The only time mine blinks is for SMS. I have not been able to shut it off. Is it possible that you have the famous SMS issue where the program thinks you have an SMS but you don't?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Reclaim:
If you download NRGZ28 Turn on Weather Animation.cab from this link: http://www.energyroms.com/Addons/Return 2 Stock CABs/ then if should solve your problem. It worked beautifully for me. Hope that helps!

In other news, I've been using the music player based on the great advice I was given and its a good fix, but it doesn't seem comprehensive as I have to "update album art" for it to work. I have to do it every time I change the set of songs I'm listening to. It's not too big of a deal but it's bothersome when I am driving and using blue tooth. I know its been stated that this is a WM issue, but the music player worked flawlessly of the stock rom. Does anyone have anymore suggestions to comprehensively fix the music issue? For now I'm cool as I hope all of this helps others too. Though I seem to be the only one having the problem lol! Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
I don't think he meant it to have an attitude. It is from an old US military saying, breaking out the word assume to mean that it makes an "ass" out of "U" and "me".

I doubt he meant any disrespect.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
I think I saw your comments earlier. I am successfully changing PagePool on every ROM, down to 8 Mb. I don't know why you are having problems.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
Did you try in BsB Tweaks, unchecking "Message Notification" under "Led Notifications"? That worked for me.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
I'm not experiencing RAM loss issues, but what people are saying is that the mid May ROMS did not have the issue and the newest ROMs do. I should think the Chef would be interested in that fact, since the only thing that changed was the ROM build.

I appreciate that WM is poor in memory management, and I'm not having the issues, but IMHO these are not whiners, they are trying to bring issues to the front - about differences between two builds of the excellent NRG ROM...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] NRGZ28:
Amen to THAT. Da_G isn't really a chef, he's a developer. He tried making some ROMs, but he couldn't deal with supporting them. I know I get to code, eat AND get laid, so I don't know what you're talking about. LOL :P

With that said, I will ask AGAIN... Stop this nonsense RAM debate. Windows mobile is what it is... it will eat up RAM and not release it. It could be Sense, it could be an app you're using. It's a known fact winmo is NOT the best at memory management. And again, *I* have ABSOLUTELY NO CONTROL over that. So stop the arguments... I don't want to have to exercise my moderator powers.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Reclaim:
So where is this cab? sorry if this is an annoying question.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hx4700 Killer:
Nice. Head, meet sand.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hx4700 Killer:
What pagepool changer are you using? I downloaded Pagepool_Changer_v2.21 and one someone else linked but neither seem to have the desired effect.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] M_T_M:
Holly monkey...all hell broke loose!! :eek: :eek:

Relax guys, come back down to earth and sing with me....kumbayaaaaa, kumbayaaaaaaa :D :D

Can we all just get along!? :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] artisticcheese:
Tasks are not sorted right on HomeTab

Tasks on home screen appears to be sorted by Due Date in reverse order, that is task with later date shows before task with closer date which make it's completely unusable.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmicha:
Therapy Money

Hey NRG, here is something for listening to all of our "stuff" today ;)

Confirmation number: 74S82699UN5142150
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] yummiyoshi:
Issue with Wifi Connection

I installed the ROM but am having trouble getting my internet to work on wifi. I am connected but am getting no data. Please help