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[G1 Android Development] prince.siraj:
yeah really but I think the Android dev community will pull through it, maybe Google will even hire Cyan. now there's a thought :D whoever mentioned it earlier is brilliant. please pass it on to Google seriously.
[G1 Android Development] aceo07:
Maybe someone knows a few contacts that know email addresses to managers at google? ;) Maybe they'd like some emails from us? ;)

Maybe post on gizmodo, engadget, slashdot and various sites tomorrow morning (nobody will notice tonight). I doubt anybody outside of XDA is aware.
[G1 Android Development] zhang yixi:
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[G1 Android Development] brownbomba:
It's about Power and Control!

True, this is not about andriod. This is about Power and Control. I have to make myself remember how my G1 was before rooting and Cyan mods. It was slow and it got on my freaking nerves. I came from the Razr phone. At first, I was happy just to have a smart phone. But after downloanding about 15 apps to my G1, I was constantly checking my internal storage, scared of running out of space. Doing that made me think of the first computer I had some 15 years ago, when I had to keep checking the space on the hard drive.

The g1 should have been made with app2sd from the beginning. I will not go back to the way it was. I wont do it.

I can think of no less that 20 improvements I got when I went Cyan. Like for an example, I could never get all my emails and gmails to load on the stock OS. It would show me like five of them and stop. But with Cyan I got all my emails and even got all the emails in my differents folders. I know im preaching to choir here but Goodle is really screwing up here. They are the ones who made the whole web a open source with their search engine and now they want to close up.
[G1 Android Development] mer6:
"Don't be evil."

It was their motto.
[G1 Android Development] adelco93:
dammit, i accidently clicked no
[G1 Android Development] blueheeler:
I doubt it, but is there any relation between the troubles that Cyanogen has had with Wikipedia and these new troubles with Google?

And on a side note, isn't it ironic that Google is in a twist over it's intellectual property, yet top search results for any software (be it Android, Windows, etc) seems to be warez sites, torrent and rapidshare indexes, etc?

Sorry, just had to add that last little part.
[G1 Android Development] doooshty:
I think this is a great oppurtunity

What Cyanogen needs to do is precisely what he stated. We need to build our own apps to replace google's. By we I mean the people of this forum more talented than I. Cyan needs to rally this community together. Let this be a project to out "Android" Google. Cyan, Stericson, Moonspoon, Manup, L3wish, Haykuro, where ya at?

We need to de-google android, yahoo maps or map quest, Yahoo messenger, or even meebo....market clone? I'm sure it can be done and I agree that it could very well be the best thing this community could give back to android, a truly open ROM.

I will support "Project:OpenAndroid" and although I have no skills to contribute, I would donate money for anything needed to accomplish this.

Stop talk. Do work.
[G1 Android Development] helfrez:
I hate to say it, I am no wino fan. but I got bored with blackberry. The wimo cooking crew has been around for years. If google starts getting pissed for a random gy one upping them on the roms, I will probably jump ship too. I am depending on these guys to keep my android, rooted and crap free!

This better not turn into iphone jailbreaking iwht back and forth fixes and locks. It would be suicide.
[G1 Android Development] blimpsrcool:
Google shouldn't be doing stuff like that. The fact that I can change to a different rom whenever I feel like it is the only reason i'm using my G1 (My first taste of complete customisation on a mobile phone). To do that I need devs to make them. By the way thanks to all the devs out there, your work is much appreciated.
[G1 Android Development] deafptl4ever:
All developers

I want all of you developers to know that this is for you:) as much as it is for Cyanogen. We know that you all could possibly be next. :confused:
[G1 Android Development] :
Man this sucks. I have been on vacation for the past week and this is the first I have heard of this at all. Guess this explains why I have seen at least 10 G1's listed on craigslist in my local area in the past few days.

If this actually goes through, and Cyanogen doesn't release a version where you have to install any POS google apps manually, I will be selling mine as well.

Cyanogen has done more for android in the past month than google has done in the 9 months I have owned my G1.

This is very disappointing. :(
[G1 Android Development] jjcd51590:
Good idea

im all for PROJECT:Open Android I'm willing to help out not to good at coding but im willing to start somewhere lets do it. if Iphone users can create cydia we can make an outside market
[G1 Android Development] jashsu:
This is not about your ability to change builds. This is about people distributing Google's copyright closed-source software without permission. It would be like if I distributed Ubuntu with a full working copy of Microsoft Office.

People, please

UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE FULLY BEFORE YOU POST.
[G1 Android Development] SG_Shadow:
It's obvious how he got the code. Cyanogen walked into Google headquarters with 2 materializing swords, m16 and 4 smoke grenades. Once he got past the receptionist, the swords materialized and he made short work of the staff. He slashed his way to the top floor, where the Google source is kept. He then had a cataclysmic battle with the hell fire demon from LOTR at which point he almost lost his life. He used 2 smoke grenades to gain the advantage over this demon. He then quickly enchanted the materializing swords with a cold aura that dismembered the beast. This is not where the story ends. Once the beast died, a portal opened up which lead to another world. In this world, lycan's ran things. He then took out his M16 which had silver bullets and went to work. The reward was being held a mad scientist who was trying to fuse lycan's with cyborg technology. Cyanogen just asked him politely and the mad scientist just turned it over. The end!
[G1 Android Development] ashshlay:
Cyan pulled QuickOffice for it being warez so I'm sure his intent wasn't to harm google and therefore the C&D letter shouldn't be an issue going forward now that he knows google doesn't want him to distribute their closed source apps.

They should just offer him a job instead of this extortion method....
[G1 Android Development] doooshty:
I agree. I have faith that this can be done, and even if google has a change of heart, I still think is should be done. Google wanted android to be a vessel for google services, I think we should remove that for them.=)

PROJECT:OpenAndroid A.K.A "The Open Android Alliance"
[G1 Android Development] :
I think I understand this. But something like MS Office is an app you have to pay a complete separate charge for. Aren't google apps free to use, even tho the code is "close-source"?
[G1 Android Development] jjcd51590:
uhhh...

i think POA sounds better :P
[G1 Android Development] DKYang:
I just don't understand why these companies sometimes just target one person/group. It's not going to scare other devs, it shouldn't anyways. Might as well send the C&D letters to a bunch of other devs while they're at it. It can't be that time consuming to do.

Even if stuff don't work out, there will always be other ways. Lets just hope everything works out fine.
[G1 Android Development] blueheeler:
It isn't necessarily an open-source vs closed-source issue at all.

It's a license issue. Distribution depends solely upon the license Google attached to the files. Google could easily change the license to one that permits distribution of the files as long as they are not modified in any way. That would make them look like the good guys in all of this, let them retain the rights to protect their precious little Android apps, and soothe a lot of ills created by this uproar.
[G1 Android Development] rossmoore81:
f this

he pulled the copyright ****. pardon my language. this is supposed to be open source. tmo should stand behind cyan bc if wasnt for him id be at att for an iphone or anything. android base still good but really its googles devs pissed that a guy can pull their code write a rom that functions so well. screw google his again goes back to they lie its not open source prob. its a joke
[G1 Android Development] jashsu:
It doesn't matter if the software is gratis or paid, unless one has explicit permission to redistribute it (a licensing agreement) then there is nothing else to say. The unspoken policy around xda has been that free and oem apps bundled into a build are okay to be redistributed. However, once a C&D has been issued, that's definitely off the table.
[G1 Android Development] jashsu:
Sure but until that happens, Cyanogen and the entire Android "rom" development community needs to respect Google's C&D.
[G1 Android Development] FatBoyExtraordinaire:
Cyan, you got my support. Keep up the good fight.
[G1 Android Development] vroomr4:
It would only be like that if every copy of Ubuntu already included Microsoft Office to begin with. I know what you mean, but it's ridiculous when the apps are free and come with every stock g1. I bought the phone, with the software pre-loaded and I can still update to official roms. We all own the software, and Cyanogen is not stealing it to give to people who don't already own the software. He's just repackaging it. I'm sure soon it will be standard to backup your own copy of market, gmail, gtalk, youtube and then transfer them over to your new rom. I don't think this is the end for custom roms, besides gmail, I hardly use those other apps.
[G1 Android Development] B3astofthe3ast:
Signed.

C'mon google, I thought this was supposed to be an OPEN os?
[G1 Android Development] Janis:
No, they don't. They just can't stop devs from distributing via MegaUpload, RapidShare, and the like, or pursue each ROM developer via a username. They went after the XDA-developer site to stop allowing their closed-source OS and apps to be posted directly on the site. So, XDA-Dev complied, but the developers didn't.

Of course, no singe WinMo ROM has gotten the support and notariety that the CyanogenMod line has gotten.

The "we already own it" argument makes sense for now, but it does't hold. It's out there for anyone to download, even if they don't have a use/phone for it. If someone starts making phones (netbooks, refrigerators, whatever) without an OS (just a loader), without paying for the bulk software license, but the hardware would, uh, "hypothetically" work with a closed-source OS, an open download would enable hardware buyers to use the OS without paying for the OS along with the hardware. Yes, we indirectly bought the closed-source apps (gmail, maps, YouTube) when we bought the phone, but if it's available via dowload for free, it's a different deal. We can't prove that we bought it, and who's to say the next guy did?

People are using their 7-year-old? Universals with WinMo 6.1, which is a bit over a year old. I'm not altogether sure that's fair. It's pretty cool, but they are getting a substantial upgrade for nothing (not that US$1100 was cheap, when they were new).
[G1 Android Development] spaceman_spliff:
Cyanogenmod made me fall in love with my G1 all over again. Thermonuclear warfare sucks donkey balls... I'll keep unroot in the fallout shelter just in case. Who am I kidding, I'll likely ditch the droid if google lashes out on the rom devs until there aren't many options left. I hope it doesn't come to that.
[G1 Android Development] geova87:
actually... they should hire him.. he's faster and effective working with roms.. faster than the whole bunch of devs @ google :)
[G1 Android Development] tdurd3n1:
this is absurd information....i truly hope Google changes their mind about this....i think it would be a huge step in the wrong direction for them to cause a huge stir about someone making their OS better....

But if it is only about the apps...well I agree...get rid of them.....I am slowly trying to teach myself java and im sure any other devs here would be glad to contribute to "Opening Android".....
[G1 Android Development] jjcd51590:
Yea

He does have a point but nothin says we cannot be in competition with it. 90% of the accualy useful apps originate in some way shape or form from this website. So we can make an XDA store that goes through pay pal or somethin with a new navigation app email app and chat app which are pretty much are already takin care of freely).

Also another idea why not just release roms without the .apk only all the system stuff in place then the user them self can just install the apk if nothing else? not quite sure how it works but it would be alot less attention then would be up to the end user if they want to break the C&D.
[G1 Android Development] rossmoore81:
just reread thread

im confused as hell now. he pulled all the apps n stuff from the google source its all there. anyone can grab it. he isnt reselling anything and taking donations for being kick ass is not illegal. so wtf is google *****ing about. dont put apps u dont want used in source f this im going to ***** to google do same im calling tmo as well f this.
[G1 Android Development] blueheeler:
Agreed. Totally.

That's why this is such a mess.

While it only targets CM right now, in reality, it affects all the devs and this whole entire forum (including the theme forum because they distribute those apk files as well).

However, we, as a community, need to really step up the pressure on Google and not let this thing spiral out of control for days or weeks. This is easily resolved before any more feeling are hurt. Look at all the rom developers we've lost since the G1 was released. They all get fed-up over something and move on to other projects. Between the Wikipedia issue and now the Google issue, I'm sure Cyanogen is using the beer money donations tonight (and rightfully so). We need this resolved before the beer runs out !
[G1 Android Development] :
I was ready to pitch the G1 and go with a different platform, probably on a different carrier, until I discovered Cyanogen's ROM. Truly, the devise is unusable in its native state. I went from telling others to avoid use of the phone to advocating it, on account of his ROMs. Google really has no idea what this one guy has done to promote their platform. They should be making him a billionaire, not threatening him.
[G1 Android Development] TommyPickles:
It is clear that XDA-Developers forum is no longer for developers. Instead it has been taken over by people who have no idea what they are talking about.

Open-source is when you have full documentation and code of how a program works. Closed-source is the opposite. It has absolutely ZERO to do with the cost of the application.

Google has a commitment to open source. This may not surprise you - its why we can download the SDK, source, compile and run an emulator.

But Market has never been open-sourced. It never will be. Why would you have the code open for a commerce system? Do you go to your bank demanding a diagram on how the electronic payment works? Or does Palm, Windows or iPhone have code available so you can see how applications are put against your account? No.

Sigh.

And all these stupid threads, all they do is perpetuate misinformation about what open-source means. You are letting open-source die by writing these ranting posts, thinking that Google has done something wrong.

It's appropriate this thread is title 'leave x alone' because you are exactly like a whining Britney spears fan who has no damn common sense.

Any developer, any real developer, can completely understand the situation of why a C&D was issued for Market. It is a closed-source app that was licensed to phone manufacturers only and not for the general public.

You sir, are no developer. So please leave this forum. It is meant for developers.
[G1 Android Development] jjcd51590:
BUT....

If he did get a job at google he wouldn't be updating multiple times a week...
[G1 Android Development] vroomr4:
Do No Evil

Thanks Google.
[G1 Android Development] endpl:
Maybe the solution is to delete all google apps except market in pure cyanogenmod, and allow user to download gmail, google talk and rest from market?
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[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] IMGMORLEY:
I'm looking for a program that will put the phone into standby when it goes into my pocket (meaning the light sensor reads a lighting level of "0".) I can't find one anywhere. Does it even exist? If not could someone make it? much appreciated :)

Regards,

Ian Morley
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] wingman1487:
There is a program called ChangeScreen. It is an app that changes the orientation of the screen depending on the G-sensor. But in the app there is an option that turn the screen off if it is in your pocket.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=465586&highlight=changescreen

There's where you can find it. Hope that helps.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom Software Upgrading] vazeer:
Is there any Atom Exec 6.5 ROM.

Presently using 6.0.Waiting for ur replies :)
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom Software Upgrading] vazeer:
Nobdy have 6.5 rom for Atom exec :(
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom Software Upgrading] satxisme:
maybe you can use CE OS 5.2.21500 Build 21500.5.0.0 Khoa_Ha. This ROM actually for Atom or Atom Pure, but in my IE, my Atom Pure has known as Atom Exec.
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom Software Upgrading] vazeer:
Am not sure about Atom exec and atom pure are same :?
[Wing, P4350 General] cclowlow:
i just got this phone off ebay today. i was happy to get this phone. i am mad now because i get no signal at all in it works when it want to the wifi works find just can not used the phone . this make me very upset about this someone help me out thanx
[Wing, P4350 General] jdep1:
are you using the phone on tmobile network? is the phone unlocked? give us more details so we could help you
[Wing, P4350 General] cclowlow:
yes i am using t-mobile service,and no i have not unlock it yet.
[Wing, P4350 General] ashasaur:
Could have a dead radio. Did you get it super cheap off of eBay?
[Wing, P4350 General] cclowlow:
lol i got it for 109 ... but is it any any hope in it to fix the radio in it can i change it, restore it. so what to do....
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] jcrompton:
SIM unlocked my VZW TP2 - able to use my ATT SIM card nicely!

Can anyone help with being able to forward calls while the phone is using the GSM mode.

If I use **004*[number]# or *21* or multiple others then I get a "Command not supported" error.

In the phone settings section there is no place to Forward calls.

Thus no way to forward calls on the GSM mode

Any ideas?
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Pegasus"143":
*72 (ten digit number)
[General Questions and Answers] eedok:
I made an image editor and when there's a scrollbar and I make a brush stroke it scrolls the content on my touch pro, this doesn't happen in my app when I run it in the winmo simulator, or on my friends Dell Axim. I can't seem to find any settings to turn them off anywhere, so is there a way to disable this feature?
[Touch HD General] ArtieQ:
Is there any harm done if I charge the phone while watching movies on the phone? I mean, will the battery suffer from it so I get less hours out of it when it's fully loaded and such?
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
Always best practice to charge phone when its turned off, or at least in standby, though a lot of business users would charge phone while its docked or sitting on computer desk sync'ed to pc via activesync & usb cable and they suffer no real loss on battery power. So I can't see any reason why you couldn't charge phone while watching movies, if anything it should allow you to watch them without your battery running out.

If you feel that you have lost battery strength over a period of time, try charging phone again whilst turned off for a few days and you should see your consumption return to normal.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] ArtieQ:
Is there any harm done if I charge the phone while watching movies on the phone? I mean, will the battery suffer from it so I get less hours out of it when it's fully loaded and such?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] pa49:
No. there will be no negative effect in the way you describe. In fact the opposite is true as you are constanly "working" the battery and Lithium Ion chemistry likes that a lot.

However, they have a finite overall life so when they finally deteriorate they are pretty much useless.

It makes sense therefore to work 'em as hard as possible while they will let you and as soon as you experience a power level drop, replace them.

Having said that I have a Nokia which has been on constant charge for the last 2 and half years (mains when at home and from the car when out) and I only recently replaced the battery.

And I have an original Athena which still gives astonishingly good performance.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] ArtieQ:
Thanks for the info pa49 :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] tracksuit:
great response.

current phone technology is akin to plasma screen burn-ins. it used to happen very quickly and easily when things came straight out. but newer technology almost eliminated that problem
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Panduh:
So I download the image by right click save as and then the name it has. Then after I put in the SD Card to my G1 then I go to the terminal emulator. I type in su (wait for a screen to popup and press "allow")

flash_image recovery /sdcard/cm-recovery-1.3.1.img. It then says Flash_Image not found.... What do I do? And do I have to Partition my SD Card first?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Panduh:
ok now it says error reading...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theartar:
What is it you're trying to do? Flash the recovery image? Or flash a ROM?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fingerlickin:
Do step 5 HERE

That is cm recovery 1.4
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qwerty3656:
Have you tried the 6-minute version? It has worked for me on 2-different phones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8BZYEBsSws
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Auzman:
Hi everyone!

I searched over the forum to find a way to keep the previous screen orientation when I push the power on button. It's useful when I cradle my Uni in the car...

Seems that I may stop the service "MIS1" but it has several side effects: it's hard to start again (requires registry modifications) and once stopped it doesn't make the screen to rotate anymore.

So, how can I make the screen to remain in landscape when I turned off my Uni in landscape mode?

Thank you for reading...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] -Jonny-:
A solution may be hardware rather than software, if you ok to do such a thing.

Add slider button or similar to disable the internal switch.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Auzman:
Too much invasive for the device...

Since it seems to be a software function to reset to portrait mode every time the device wakes up, maybe there's a way to stop it, or to add a software button to enable/disable this feature...

On MSDN it's explained how to access the screen rotation features but I have no idea on how to do it...

Sound strange that nobody felt the need of such a trick before... Or not in the same way as me...

Thx...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] tomal:
try with mortscript.

use df task manager and configure that script in wake-up notification event.