yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
Re: Memory card testing

On the PC you can right-click the memory card in Explorer > Properties > Tools > Check drive for errors > select Scan for bad sectors.

On Sandisk's forum: test your microSD(HC) card's actual transfer rate with this free utility. Especially good if you got a no-name or possible fake branded card or on Fleabay. :rolleyes:

There must be a ton of posts on XDA on the subject, I did not search for them as I use the paid version of EVEREST Ultimate Edition for my PC's, HDs & memory cards.

My last post on the memory card subject as someone will soon jump-in and say it's off topic. ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
You shouldn't actually need to format SD cards often unless you are changing file systems. Flash memory is nothing like magnetic memory. Flash cards do not really need to be defragmented, and actually are harmed by defragmenting. Flash memory can be "defragmented" by removing all of the files from the card, and then putting them back on again. This saves the card from the unnecessary reading and writing of a defrag. Flash memory has a life span in read/write cycles, and not time. They are normally good for a long term of reads and writes, but they do wear out over time. Their life span is shorter than mechanical drives by a significant margin.

It's normally better to get branded cards over cheaper knock-offs and trans-flash memory because the read and write cycles are generally more accurate and more testing goes into making quality product.

If you understand the concept of defragmenting a standard hard disk drive and its purpose, then it's very clear why moving files off of the card and then back on again is a better option than formatting or defragmenting. I can explain further via PM if you like.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Monfro:
29008 great battery life

Seems that 29008 has a great battery life...near double than 28244!!!

21687, 29009 and 29011 are public now and in the next days we will have also 21689, 29014 and 29017: great!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
@cajunflavoredbob

Thanks for weighing in. It's a Sandisk 8GB, but I've had name-brand things blow out long before generics. It was also an ebay purchase, I think, and we all know that can be suspect.

Reformatting the card did solve my problems, but perhaps I'll keep any more reformatting on a need-to basis. I'm just glad I was near a computer to do it.

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] NRGZ28:
That's probably because it is! ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
Re: Memory Cards (again)

I never said that cards should be defragmented. Nor formatted every day. This said, I'm a semi-pro photographer & always format in camera my cards before a shoot, since years. From Ken Rockwell's CF and SD Card Test:

That's for photography as one does not want THE shot of a fleeting moment to be corrupted.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
Re: ROM Mar.08 29008 Battery Life?

That's quite a statement. How did you measure it? Is that on your CDMA phone? Was the screen brightness & power management settings identical?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] highKo:
maybe a newbie question: who release these builds? does microsoft still develop wm6.5?

ps:sorry for off-topic
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
My post was not in reply to yours. I was replying to jakfisk.

Yes, Microsoft is still working on WM builds as are a couple of other companies. See my signature for a link to learn more.

You can also check out a post I made yesterday on the future of Windows Mobile.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alcoholic:
Hello NRG. Is it possible for you to include this lock screen ? I think it'll be a nice addition. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=419525
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
As far as third party lock screens go, S2U2 is the most common. If that one hasn't made it into the ROM, then I doubt ThrottleLock would either. Also, he's mentioned before that he won't cook in other lockscreens. Either way, it's a nice lockscreen. I used it for a while in its infancy, but the bugs forced me to leave it. I noticed that they seem to have cleared it up quite a bit since I used it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
Am I just wishfully thinking, or is 29008 snappier all around than even the famed 28244?

On my phone, it certainly boots faster that 28244, but even getting around the menus, etc., things seem quicker.

But maybe that's just the beer,

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vinceweis:
What brand of beer makes this one snappier? I want some of that. Please don't post with a minimal amount of information. We need brand, vintage, provider, etc to allow everyone to share in your experience. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Here, here! Abita Amber is my personal favorite. It doesn't have the ability to make my ROMs any faster, but it certainly makes the night go by faster.

Back on topic:

I've run some benchmarks on 29008 as a blank build without EXT packages. I wasn't terribly impressed, but it wasn't bad. 21687 felt much quicker in my opinion. I'm planning to do a comparative on a few different later builds either tonight or tomorrow. I'll try to include new results for Energy ROMs as well.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
@vinceweis: I think it's all in my sig, but for the record: TMobile HTC Touch Pro 2 running 29008 (March 7, the only recent 29008, no?) vs the Feb 27 28244.

@cajunflavoredbob: I've never tried 21687. Now you've got me wondering...

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
He was making a joke about your beer comment.

The only way you'll get to try it is if a chef here cooks it in a ROM, or you build one with that SYS in it. I found it pretty snappy. I'm not overly fond of the 290xx branch. The video quality is very nice, but I haven't been impressed by performance.

Even so, NRG said he prefers 216xx but cooked in 290xx due to popular demand. Perhaps the next round of ROMs will get a real speed boost. I doubt they can really get much faster, though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
Oh, God, that went right past me. Testament to the beer. Actually, it's Sam Adam Noble Pils. Very good except when posting.

vinceweis: I apologize for being a dunderhead

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
ThrottleLock vs. S2U2 Lock/Unlock App on NRG ROM Mar.08

Thanks for the pointer to the ThrottleLock 0.9.1 Lock/Unlock App. :cool:

It's great to be able to see your home page with all your notifications and your normal taskbar while locked and have also the option of a custom lock screen wallpaper & taskbar.

The idea of simply entering your own custom finger gliding pattern on the screen to unlock (or using a stylus) instead of entering a PIN is cool & faster. he default is 3x3 dots but that can be changed to 4x4, 5x5 to get a more complicated & secure pattern.

It's using only 1.86MB of RAM memory vs. 2.81MB for S2U2, 5MB for the cooked-in Android style and 6MB for the Windows lockscreen on my spare Tilt 2 running NRG ROM Mar.08 21916.

Contrary to S2U2, the hardware keyboard is disabled on my Tilt 2 when locked. Clicking the FN key for example, the white LED does not turn on. Tried the fast clicking or keys combos that unlocks S2U2 circumventing the PIN does not work w/ ThrottleLock 0.9.1 and all physical buttons are disabled except the top power button.

A phone reset does not bypass the locked state contrary to S2U2.

Security wise, is just good enough to prevent the phone from turning on by itself in your pocket if the top power button gets bumped by accident (a.k.a. anti butt dialer) because you can access all the phone's files including the memory card simply by connecting it to the PC and the Chose a connection type pops up on the phone. Also Activesync starts automatically on the PC if selected on the phone & connects with full access.

This said it seems (after a short testing) to fare much better compared to the numerous S2U2's security holes when used on Touch Pro2/Tilt 2. And that's an other reason for it not to be cooked in a ROM as users may think that their phone is truly protected with this app.

For me the choice is investing 5MB of memory RAM for the cooked-in Android style lock screen that's secure vs. 1.86MB for the ThrottleLock anti-kids or anti butt dialer. Still looking for a SECURE lock/unlock application that uses less memory than the two found in the cooked-in NRG ROM's. :confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Monfro:
Identical Settings (everything is automated with xda_uc).

A full day of heavy usage and a lot of battery remained at the end of day, while 28244 same rom and setting would have been dead or near dead...

If i remember correct also 29005-29007 from december had better battery life than 28244.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] blumsen:
I am a bit reluctant to say something bad about the 28244 build in this thread, but I have the same experience of it eating battery. My battery actually died at the first night after flashing the 27.2 energy one and now I have to make sure it is around 30% before leaving it on standby for the night, otherwise I can't really trust it as an alarm clock.

I am not sure how much you can trust the Batclock application, but mine shows a more or less constant 175mA current, what is the usage on the 2900x flavor?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] 4bettilt2:
keyboard fix

Just flashed the latest energy rom 21916 cookie 2.0

can someone point me to the keyboard fix :rolleyes:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
Go to page #1 of this thread: FAQ.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
ROM Mar.08 29008 Total Commander & Battclock Settings

Thanks for your report.

About the Total Commander buttons display bug, I have been talking with the author of TC & his first thought was that maybe TC did not recognized the OS but I just installed for testing the DeepShining X13.29008.Touchtone ROM on my spare Tilt 2 & since TC is not cooked-in I installed Total Commander Beta 3 - 2010 Windows CE arm cab and the buttons are just fine as you can see below. So it can be an NRG ROM quirk as that ROM is also built 29008. Maybe it's related to NRG's theme.

About BattClock, thanks for pointing out that showing the CPU usage on the taskbar actually used more CPU. :) The author is working on some solutions as well as new features related to the battery.

So I modified my BattClock settings accordingly, rared them & attached it to this post.

From my previous post on how to import & use it:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hefman:
I'm kind of partial to Turbo Dog myself, but the Amber is also very good. Can't go wrong with Abita. Gonna be in your area in early May to help Abita with their 2011 revenue, among other things... :p

Looking forward to your comparison. Those are always helpful.

I don't need any security on my device, so the "holes" are of no concern to me. I think that is probably true of most users. For me, S2U2 fits my needs perfectly, because it is flexible and

it works

. Like others, I tried ThrottleLock early on, but I had issues. I'll have to give it another try though...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
Interesting. I'm at work right now and will be pretty busy tonight, but maybe late tonight or tomorrow I will download and check to see what file and registry differences exist between the 2 roms. Hopefully it can be fixed with a simple reg fix or a missing file.

Unfortunately I do not know of any mobile equivalent to sysinternal ProcMon which would tell us every file and registry read that the application makes.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vinceweis:
I'll give that one a try. Sounds as good as the ROM.

I am also finding 29008 good except for the reported issues. I'm not sure I can tell the difference in speed anymore between builds. They all seem good now when first flashed. My problem is I like to load up the phone with so much stuff that it starts to strain with the load. I look at the device as a computer that I carry with me that happens to have a phone function on it, rather than a phone that has some added features.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ZuinigeRijder:
Did you also tried TouchLockPro? Because that does not use much memory (38 KB). Note it is not a Security measure, only prevents dialing when in your pocket and prevents missed calls. I use it in combination with a SIM PIN. So after a soft reset/boot, I need to give in the SIM PIN once for making phone calls. At least someone cannot make phone calls with my SIM, once rebooted.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
@JVH3

Really nice summary, thank you. Your testing has always revolved around the things that concern me.

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bipinsen:
Yep.. ditto that. I have relegated myself to now just lurking. Discussions of lockscreens and file managers are of no interest to me. There are a million threads out there that talk about the same things everyone is hashing out here. Even though a new ROM came out, conversation veered off-topic. :rolleyes:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
Energy ROM Android Style Lockscreen Mod

The default lockscreen on all the Energy ROMs I have been using since Nov. 2010 as well as on the latest Mar.08 29008 and Mar.13 built 29013 is the Android style wich uses 1MB less of RAM memory vs. the Windows one. There are plenty of lockscreen cabs on XDA modifying dozens of files, icons, clocks & registry out there but I wanted to stay close to the ROM while trying to make it a little bit nicer.

One can change the wallpaper with Home > slider to Settings > Personalize > Lockscreen wallpaper but the bottom third of the image is obscured by curtains as you can see on screen capture #2 above.

I modified the bar image PBannerBar.png found in phone/Windows and the bottom curtain file PBGSingleNotify.png was replaced by a transparent one.

No other changes are made to the phone

with the three cabs I attached to this post. I included the coast wallpaper in case somebody likes it.

Android_HD2_BarOnly_JB.cab is using the default bar for the HD2 to which I removed the curtain & aligned it with the clock position of the NRG Android style. It took me a while to find the names of those files used on the Android style lock screen. :rolleyes:

Download & copy the cab(s) to the memory card & then install it from there with Start > Total Commander (or with Active Sync or File Explorer) to the Device. Restart the phone if it does not do it automatically to apply the change.

To revert to NRG's default Android style lockscreen with curtains, just un-install the unwanted cab: Home > slider to Settings > Application > Remove programs & restart the phone. Do the same w/o the need to restart before installing the other cab.

Edit: Added a cab w/o bar nor curtains!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
@Joe Bleau--very cool. I don't even use a lockscreen, but your work tempts. I especially like the no-curtain option, which fits in so nicely with your other no-curtain cabs.

All of which I use.

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
Re: Using Lockscreen or not & Splash Screen #4

Thanks for the feedback. :cool:

I don't use the lock screen when at home but when outside, especially riding a motorcycle on the dirt roads I do use it as many people here have family abroad and within the hour after a phone is lost there's hefty international call charges usually. It's easy to enable/disable the security PIN feature with Start > Settings > Lock.

Even if you are not using the lock screen, did you know that if you change it's wallpaper as described in the previous post (Home > slider to Settings > Personalize > Lock screen wallpaper), it will replace NRG's boot splash screen #4 when you reboot the phone? The one with the Launching HTC Sense...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fuzzy John:
What puts the notification bar at the bottom?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
Re: Lockscreen Bar Location & Carrier & Date Removal?

If somebody knows how to remove the carrier's name (I already know it :rolleyes:) & date (I have it already on the taskbar with BattClock) above the unlock bar in the NRG ROM Android style lockscreen, I would appreciate.

Edit: Added a cab w/o bar nor curtains to the Energy ROM Android Style Lockscreen Mod post. ;)

Sorry, I don't know which file or registry settings that does it. What would like to change? Seems fine to me.

Maybe this helps if you want to change the location of the bar but you need also to change the grid that says to the phone to unlock it when you slide the bar in it's new location:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\LockScreen\Setting]

"TitleBarAlpha"=dword:000000a0

"PBannerPos"=dword:000001ff

"DIBSectionBitCount"=dword:00000020

"Alpha"=dword:0000003c

If it's only the icons that you would like to change, here is what I found with Registry Editor. In bold are the ones I modified & cabbed in the Energy ROM Android Style Lockscreen Mod post:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\LockScreen\Res]
"VMail_S"="\\windows\\voiceMail_s.png"
"VMail"="\\windows\\voiceMail.png"
"UnknowCaller"="\\windows\\LSInCall_UnknowCaller.PNG"
"Sms_S"="\\windows\\SMS_s.png"
"Sms"="\\windows\\SMS.png"
"SimplePinPWDHint"="\\windows\\LSSimplePin_PWDDOT.PNG"
"SimplePIN_Unlock"="\\windows\\LSSimplePin_Unlock.PNG"
"SimplePIN_PhoneKey"="\\windows\\LSSimplePin_PhoneKey.PNG"
"SimplePIN_Hint"="\\windows\\LSSimplePin_PWDDOT.PNG"
"SimplePIN_DigitKey"="\\windows\\LSSimplePin_DigitKey.PNG"
"SimplePIN_BGP"="\\windows\\LSSimplePin_BG.PNG"
"PLockBarGB"="\\windows\\[B]PBGSingleNotify.png[/B]"
"PInCall_PhotoFrame"="\\windows\\LSInCall_photo_frame.PNG"
"PInCall_PhoneKey"="\\windows\\LSSimplePin_PhoneKey.PNG"
"PInCall_Line2"="\\windows\\LSInCall_line_2call.png"
"PInCall_Line1"="\\windows\\LSInCall_line_1call.png"
"PInCall_Background"="\\windows\\LSInCall_Background.png"
"PBanner"="\\windows\\[B]PBannerBar.png[/B]"
"PBackGround"="\\windows\\stwater_480_800.jpg"
"Misscall_S"="\\windows\\missCall_s.png"
"Misscall"="\\windows\\missCall.png"
"EMail_S"="\\windows\\email_s.png"
"EMail"="\\windows\\email.png"
"Calendar"="\\windows\\Calendar.PNG"
"Arrow"="\\windows\\LS_SliderArrow.PNG"

What I did is: > create a folder in the memory card (NRG_png for example) > use Total Commander to search all the .png in Windows > select all > copy to NRG_png folder. It took maybe 10-15 minutes. Some icons used in the OS are in dll, manila & other file types but that's an other story. :eek:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fuzzy John:
There is nothing I wish to change. It was curiosity as I didn't remember seeing any setting to accomplish that. At this time I do not use a screen lock, but if I did I would want the notification bar there. Thanks for the info.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chetbkool:
29013 New Roms Uploading

Enjoy 29013. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mircelus:
Hi.Sorry,there is no lockscreen icon under personal settings.Can not change lockscreen do Android style.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
Go to page #1 of this thread: FAQ to see what details are needed when you post a question. What ROM? On wich phone? Etc. Which Start Menu layout are you using?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Settings tab > Other > Switch Lockscreens
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
Re: Switch Lockscreen & NRG Default

Nice workaround tip but that does not explain why he does not see Start > Settings > Personal > Switch Lockscreen in the default settings of the Energy Flavor ROMs built 28244, 29008 & 29013 for example.

The Android style lockscreen is the default one in that flavor built numbers anyway. Dunno about the others like GTX, Sencity, etc as I don't use them.

In the Energy.RHODIUM.21916.Sense2.5.Cookie.Mar.08 the default lockscreen was Windows & I don't remember seeing the Switch Lockscreens option in Settings. That's why I asked him which ROM he was using and that may explain why he does not see the Switch Lockscreen option and has the Windows style lock screen by default.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
Energy.RHODIUM.29013.Sense2.5.Reference.Mar.13

New and available for download: Energy.RHODIUM.29013.Sense2.5.Reference.Mar.13.7z (153.0Mb) as well as Energy.RHODIUM.29013.Sense2.5.Mar.12.7z (165.3Mb) on the same page.

From the Reference Flavor page:

Edit: I pasted the stock ROM memory usage data from the post above Energy RHODIUM 29013 Mar.12 vs. this ROM 29013 Reference.Mar.13 data's in blue. Basically you trade CHT Cookie's Home customizations options w/ 4x4 quicklink grid for example and two (or more) other Home tabs on the left & the right of main Home for a 3x3 fixed quicklink grid w/o left & right tabs, very few missing apps easy to download & install, color icons on the taskbar & Home > slider > Settings tab & gain about 12% of free RAM memory. It seems noticeably snappier vs. Energy flavor 29013 Mar.13 IMO.

Report ROM 29013 Reference.Mar.13:

Total Storage: 245.60 MB (262.28 MB)

Used Storage: 64.54 MB (47.02 MB)

Free Storage: 181.05 MB (215.26 MB)

Total Program: 185.48 MB (same)

Used Program: 112.27 (103.43 MB)

Free Program: 73.21 MB (82.05 MB -> 12% more) >> 70.18 MB (79.68 MB) after inserting the SIM & restarting the phone. Rebooting was fast, about 90 seconds (75 sec.) to get to Home w/o hanging in the Sense is starting window. :)

Free Program: 61.69 MB (72.23 MB) after inserting SIM, Activesync once to PC (no data syncing > Connect without setting up your device) & disconnecting from PC, locking the phone once, opening once all the folders & sub-folders in the Start Menu including the ones found under the Settings tab, opening once the Home > Slider > Weather and Settings tabs.

Start > Settings > Start Menu Layout Switch > Panel yields w/ SIM Free Program (memory RAM): 101.86MB. Disabling Sense with > Start > Settings > Home > Items > select Windows Default to get the Titanium interface and rebooting to Home in only 55 seconds :eek: : ArkSwitch says 130.7MB RAM memory free, almost twice as much as the stock Energy.RHODIUM.29013.Sense2.5.Mar.12.

Sliderbox Fix & Curtain Removed JB.cab from this post: Sliderbox Fix works as shown in the last screen capture below but it's not pixel perfect. Maybe I will make a specific version for the Reference ROM if it bugs me enough after a while. ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
Hi, Folks,

Using a T-Mobile HTC Touch Pro 2 and the new Energy.RHODIUM.29013.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Mar.12.7z, I've got a problem with the time jumping forward one hour on the phone every time I sync with AS.

I thought it might've been trouble with ROMs dated before the time change in the US, but it's the same one-hour-jumping-forward trouble.

Any advice?

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] awalt:
Check the FAQ on the first page, well-known error:

Wrong time: Several people outside of the US reported problems with time after the US changed to/from daylight savings time (aka summer time and winter time). If your clock is one hour (or more) ahead or behind, do not use "get carrier time" and disable "automatic change time zone and clock" in personal -> phone settings.