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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
A really good post, Joe Bleau. Hadn't realized that about AS and its partners slogging on, even after a sync/disconnect with desktop. It'd be nice to find their automatic shutdown, but as I remember from my CE days, that's not an easy thing.

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
Response to Joe's post

Just a couple things that might affect some users if they apply those settings.

Most Blue Tooth devices need long send mapped to Voice Command if you want hands free to trigger voice command. TaskMgr3 can be mapped to something else just as easily though.

Active Sync needs to be running all the time if you sync with an exchange server as items arrive.

For Task Manager 3, you can also show apps instead of processes, which is more like what ArkSwitch shows. Also, for more finger friendly, you can display them larger.

I think there are command settings that will launch it with the Applications instead of Processes. I am going to try to find them and update. The original has switches to do this.

/apps

So, if you make a seperate shortcut to use to launch it as a task manager replacement as:

"\Windows\TaskMgr3.exe" /apps

Then it will launch directly into the list of apps.

One nice thing ArkSwitch has is the ability to filter out certain apps that are always running.

I've been noticing that with WinStart, if I mod a shortcut, I need to go to HKLM\Security\Shell\StartInfo\Start

Then I need to modify or delete the subkeys of the reg entry that matches with the shortcut.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
Re: Activesync & TaskMgr3 Settings

I don't use Exchange server but it's a good point and WinStart already shows the apps running in the background so the point was to have Processes like when swiping left or right ArkSwitch but w/ more info a lot more options at the finger tip. The beauty of TaskMgr3 is all the customizations and no freezing like in v3.1 in my case.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] janblok:
sorry but i also tryed de cdma version same problem here
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
It's probably because you don't have Hard SPL, but since you didn't bother to give us any information that was requested since the last time you posted over a month ago, I doubt we'll be able to give you much help this time either.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
In both your posts, you negected to provide any information that could enable someone to help you.

#1. Carrier

#2. Specific model of Rhodium - Touch Pro 2.

#3. Country

#4. GSM / CDMA, or a CDMA that also takes a SIM card.

You also have neglected to look at any of the stickies that will tell you that you need to apply HardSPL. If you haven't applied HardSPL, you might now have a useless paper weight.

But, that's the price you pay when you don't do some basic research.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
Cookie 2.0 28244 Differences between the Feb 19 and Feb 27

From what I can tell this is what changed between the 19th and the 27th.

I can only see 3 small changes.

boot.hv, default.hv, and user.hv changed, but only slightly.

Everything else is the same. All packages are the same. All manila files are the same. All the png, gif, bmp files are the same. All wav, mid, mp3 files are the same. All apps, and links are the same. All the provxml files are the same.

As of right now, I don't know what the hv files do. Kind of tired, so I won't be learning about that tonight.

But, from what I can tell, those 3 files are the only differences between the ROM from the 19th and the ROM from the 27th.

There may have been differences for other builds or flavors. I only analyzed the normal Cookie 2.0 with 28244.

As NRGZ28 had said, the ROMs are nearly final. So, I suspect the hv files contained just a couple small tweaks. Not yet knowing what those files do, I can't be 100% sure. I'm sure the ROM version is contained in one of those files.

I know his process is very automated, so it could very well be that changes or fixes where done for a couple other flavors and then the process was started to build and upload all the ROMs.

I did some searching. Those hv files contain registry entries. So, that means that the difference between the ROMs of the 19th and the 27th were registry entries.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] awalt:
Thanks JVH3, as a custom ROM noobie I have a question about this. Assuming a given ROM chef eventually does just tire of his project and move on to other devices, when a ROM is final do chefs typically continue to issue new builds from time to time just to update the apps in them? If not, how does that work if we have to start updating apps ourselves, and the original is in ROM, and we update - are there 2 copies now on the phone? I am not sure I understand he app-updating strategy in this case, or what to anticipate in the future (certainly at the discretion of the ROM chef of course!). Or is there some other sort of strategy like take the latest ROM image if it's no longer supported, and a thread points out how to replace apps in it? Not even sure if that is wise.

Thanks for sharing your insights if you are able!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] reddog093:
VZW Keyboard

Great rom! I love the Dusk theme and this seems very smooth. Can anyone help me remap the keyboard/symbols to align with Verizon's layout?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmylxgo:
Added an Animated Wallpaper for the XMas 2.5 Roms...

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1421393&postcount=4747
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rmkali:
I believe i've been running MaxManila on EnergyROM 28xxx since Dec 4 (use to have it in my sig but ran out of room). Anyway, i am currently running (as per sig) EnergyROM and not experiencing the issues you express ... what do you mean by "shove everything out of the homescreen?"
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] numetheus:
AT&T US Keyboard?

This is my first HTC handheld, and have flashed this custom ROM. But the keyboard does not work like it is supposed to. I am trying to use the @ symbol and a 1 shows up. I think this is because the key map is different? How do I fix this? I am in the US using AT&T. Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fuze1969A:
Did you run the attached CAB?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] calvodjd:
Hello, great rom but g-config don´t run for me in 28014, i have reintalled butdon´t go.

Ideas???

Thanks, sorry for my english.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nuron:
The album pictures in my contacts' Facebook feature aren't loading up for me, anyone else experiencing the same thing?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MaziarAmiri:
Just downloaded 21885 version and it works fast and great but i have 2 questions:

1_Where can i get the stock WM 6.5/6.1 clock ? whch is white and its numers are black?

2_My memory usage goes up to 72-73% with this ROM whereas it went to 68-69% max with stock WM 6.5,is it normal ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sumflipnol:
1. I attached the cab. It's the one with weather in it too.

BTW, here's NRG's "Stock" folder. He deleted some things, though, but it still has a few things, such as the stock white clock.

2. Well, that's Windows Mobile for you... That's normal. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] npahlavan:
I installed the latest ROM and now my mms works again. Not sure what happened. The SMS/MMS options in outlook now shows up too. I don't what happened, but glad it works
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jrmccracken:
Help

OK, I will be the first to admit I am a cooked ROM newbie, but I am freaking out here, I have the ATT Tilt 2, And for some reason I can receive SMS but cannot send, does anyone have any idea what could be causing this I applied the mms patch , but I cannot send ewither.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] thefa:
I just installed 28014 and the SMS issue seems to be now fixed ! I seem to be able to send SMS now in a reliable way.

Note that I wonder if the issue might have been generated by my restoring 1000+ SMS via MyPhone and it seems some of those SMS restored were creating problems.

I first tested SMS just after flasing new ROM. Seemed fine (Sending okay + no freezes). Then

I then synced with MyPhone the 1000+ SMS and the SMS app was very unstable with various freezes.

I then archived my SMS on MyPhone and re-synced (thus removing the SMS history on the phone, plus some manual cleanup to remove them really all). Then all okay again...

If you guys have SMS issues, please let us know if you were restoring previous SMS via MyPhone or not.

My two cents.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jrmccracken:
I'll admit I am on 28011, but it is soo time consuming setting up my phone, I think my family is ready for an intervention, I keep seeing them whisper when they think I am not looking, I spend so much time with my phone. but I use my phone sooo much I need it to be almost perfect. I don't use myphone even though I set it up under the stock rom, I only keep about a dozen sMS messages so i use pimbackup, much faster more effeicient, and doesn't eat up data. but i'll try 28014 if it gets sms working again.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jsmith8858:
Well, I finally figured it out: There's a CAB here that works, with a caveat:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5110994&postcount=77

It works, but a few of the custom slider icons (the blue HOME icon, blue settings, maybe some others) get overwritten by the files in the CAB, but not completely -- in some spots you see the old icon, in some the new.

Maybe someone can edit this CAB and fix this? We are almost there for those who want the stock slider back!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GordonTGopher:
It runs fine for me (apart from switching on bluetooth connect) what problems do you have?

Gordon
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jrmccracken:
found the resolution to my own problem.

I uninstalled SPB Mobile shell and SPB phone suite and lo and behold all of my text messages the were blocked just got sent and SMS is working fine, I assume there is a conflict between max manila and SPB mobile shell that shuts down SMS sending
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sumflipnol:
Do you want the stock clock, too? I have the old cab NRG made with Stock Slider and Clock. It's attached.

Oh and I also found one other that I downloaded. I'm not sure if it's for Sense 2.1 or 2.5.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jsmith8858:
Thank you for posting these, but there is an issue with NRG's stock slider CAB, the slider shows as a solid block and you can't see the current page's icon. Also, one of the stock white clock CABs has an issue where the AM/PM graphic isn't really visible. The one that works best is called something like "white clock + sunny animation fix.cab", something along those lines.

IN short, NRG's return to stock CABs don't work so well for Manila 2.5, perhaps they work better for 2.1.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kmx:
Thanks for the cab.

Anyways my phone crashed again this time I am on the standard sense 2.5 with no maxmanilla.

When I tried to use the radio it didn't pick up stations even though I had a headset connected. Then the phone frooze on me and restarted.

And also my action key no longer works whenever I use the clear ram app.

Any solution to this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jcrompton:
28014 Build ???

Ok so maybe it's me BUT - this weekend Fri - Sunday I have tried both the NRG and the Valkrie latest 28014 and Sense 2.5 Builds (both of them with and without MaxManilla)

The NRG ROM consistently has SMS problems - and that is with NO restore of SMS. I would have SMS get sent out of the blue as much as 24 hours later!

The Valkrie ROM not as much SMS issue But:

With both ROM's combined I bet I had 20 lockups or freezes in 72 hours ! I probably haven't had that many total prior to this weekend for the two months I hav owned the phone!

So frustrated I think I might get my Bold back out (blasphemy - I know).

Shouls I re-flash a stock ROM or something ????
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
It's entirely up to the Chef.

There have been chefs that have posted their Kitchens when they moved on.

In the case for NRGZ28, that would be up to him. His would be more complicated, since it is set up for multiple phones and flavors.

In the case of apps. Think about life before flashing. You would buy a phone loaded with a bunch of apps. You can always install later versions, but the space taken by the one in the ROM will always be consumed.

I don't think NRGZ28 is retiring from ROM cooking anytime soon. At least I hope not. He obviously has certain real expenses for maintenance of the ROMs ( Bandwitdh and hard drive space ). Each flavor takes the full space and the 7z file. And the expense of the time it takes to keep up with all this.

If you want to have the latest versions, but don't want to install over things that are already on the ROM, you could always download the reference ROMs. Then start finding all the apps and tweaks that go into it. Then script that into XDA_UC. Then you would just maintain your XDA_UC folder. It probably would not be a bad thing to start doing this, just so you are ready when the time comes. It probably will take a while to find all the apps or to extract the ones you can't find.

But, as long as he still uses his HD2 with Windows Mobile, I think we should be OK. I know he has been cooking NAND ROMs for it though. Seems more and more people are moving to Android phones.

Here's a recent quote from him in the Leo thread:

As long as he is cooking roms for himself, I think we should be good, since just about everything is the same for us, except the drivers.

----

Now I am going to spend some time trying to find a good tool to read those the hv files.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] awalt:
Thanks JVH3!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
Differences for normal Energy 28244 Cookie 2.0 between Feb 19 and Feb27

I found a tool to convert the hv files to hvm files which are plain text.

The only differences in those 3 files was the hash used to create them. And of course the reg entry for the build date.

I do not know what a different hash value would do or if it is a generated value when cooking.

I can only think that something was fixed or changed in one of the other flavors, and then the rest were just built as part of the process.

In any case, flashing is always a good time to make sure any new tweaks that you personally apply are set up properly through XDA_UC. It's also a good time to get rid of all those useless text messages that would otherwise build up.

Remember, his kitchen is very automated and he did not announce the new ROMs. We addicts just check the hotfile folder frequently.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] awalt:
Is there a way to re-map the keys on the hard keyboard with this ROM? I have searched and have not seen it mentioned, I apologize if I missed it. Specifically I would like to remap the Fn keys, 2 to the left and 4 to the right of the space bar...

thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
Yes. Use Tarkim's keyremapper. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4434797&postcount=1

Cab is named RhodiumKbdControl_GSM.CAB

I recently posted links to all the cabs I apply through XDA_UC here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=11758354&postcount=33463

The link to Tarkim's keyremapper is also there.

On that post, I attached a reg file for the keyboard settings that I use.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] awalt:
Thanks for the reply!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Cosmic Ranger:
There seems to be an email problem with the new Sense. I have my Gmail (IMAP) set up to move emails to server trash when I delete from the phone. I also have it set to just download today's emails.

What is happening is the emails aren't getting moved to trash on the server or marked as read. They keep downloading to the phone until I go to Gmail on my computer and delete them.

Anyone else observed this problem?

(Have not observed the problem with POP email)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
I remember reading something here about this before (I do not use gmail), so I did a quick search (nice feature!) and found this post. It may help. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7172690&postcount=22657
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Cosmic Ranger:
Thanks but I did see that. His problem was with POP and he said he would try IMAP to see if that helped. There was no followup.

There is also another thread on this board where another Energy user reports having a similar IMAP problem with the new Sense version. He says the problem only occurs using Sense to delete.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=974529

Postscript: A web search indicates this problem is being observed by users of many popular smartphones including, iPhone, Android, Blackberry and WP7. If the reports are correct, it appears to have something to do with Google's non-standard IMAP implementation.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
S2U2 Lock/Unlock App is Full of Security Holes

The current NRG ROM cooked-in lock screen options besides not being customizable are RAM memory hogs on our memory challenged Touch Pro2/Tilt 2: the default Android style eats 5MB after locking the first time and

never releases it after unlocking

while the Windows style alternative (> Start > Settings > Personal > Switch Lockscreens > and reboot) is worst eating an incredible 6MB! :eek: That's huge just for a phone locking app considering that the default Feb.27 NRG ROM has only 77MB of free memory for running other programs.

Several users in this thread recommended the much more customizable S2U2 lock/unlock app which fares better according to Task Manager: S2U2.exe uses 2.7MB + it's companion iLock2.exe only 52KB, that's

all the time

even after unlocking.

But some Touch Pro2/Tilt 2/Rhodium users mentioned a huge caveat with S2U2's default settings on our phones:

one can unlock the phone w/o using his PIN with the physical keyboard

! I tried to fix that to no avail.

As you can read on the following pages it turns out that there are many other ways to access the phone w/o using the PIN in S2U2.

Basically it's just good enough to prevent the phone from turning on by itself in your pocket if the top power button gets bumped by accident. :(

If somebody knows a SECURE lock/unlock application that uses less memory than the two found in the cooked-in NRG ROM's, please post a link to it! :cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
I have 3 gmail accounts set up. I am using 28244 Cookie 2.0, but I think I maybe seeing your problem.

If I see the message in sense, and then delete, it will come back on the next retrieval.

If I actually tap on the message and then delete the message, it will actually be deleted and not come back on the next retreival.

I've attached pics to illustrate the difference.

[MORE DETAILS]

It's worth noting that when setting up an email account through the sense user interface the option to delete from the server does not exist.

Only when setting up email accounts through the Windows Mobile user interface does that option exist.

So, it is understandable that Sense does not support it. It is strange that it retrieves it from the server again though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dky500:
NRGZ28:

Thanks for the continued developmental support for our device.

Transaction# 31218238224644535
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rcgators:
I noticed this started a few months ago. Prior to that, deleting the message in sense would cause gmail to properly delete the message. When it first happened it was quite annoying :confused: until I realized what was happening and how to get around it. As I recall it was about the time 28xxx roms were first relased... everything else worked so well I was happy to live with the sense email quirk!! :D These roms are soooo nice I'm happy to live with a few bugs.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
Re: S2U2 Full of Security Bugs

It turns out that the S2U2 Lock/Unlock App is full of security bugs on our Touch Pro2/Tilt 2/Rhodium, that's why I edited this post.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
@Joe Bleau: Re: S2U2 Security FIX Feedback?

You know me, I use all your fixes. My entire home page is pretty much a result of your cabs :)

But I live on the edge, and don't even lock my phone, let alone password it.

Here's hoping other, more levelheaded users weigh in,

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
I've had mine set like this with no problems for at least three or four months now. I found it after JVH3 or mmalka (I think) pointed out that you could unlock the device with the hardware shortcuts.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xi.lin:
Cool things, thanks for your work~
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
It wasn't me, as I don't unlock mine, but thank you for thinking it was :-)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] RemE:
But a locked Mind is a sad thing indeed ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
It still is an issue if your company pushes out security policies requiring the windows pin lock. By synching with an exchange server your phone automatically agrees to accept any policies pushed out by it. These are applied without your knowledge. So, if you work for a company that lets you sync with exchange and that company pushes out a policy requiring the Windows Pin lock, using S2U2 will result in 2 lock screens.

As an FYI, although I spend way too much time on XDA and tinkering with my phone, I do have a life outside of it. I work 40 to 50 hours a week as a software engineer. The area I live in is expected to be in danger of a flood in about 6 to 8 weeks. It should be managable with pumps, but there still is a lot of prep work. In the mean time, I am trying to actually get in decent shape before Spring, so I am trying to fit some gym time in. Along with trying to take advantage of the snow before it's gone with my snowboard.

As you see, my post on S2U2 that you quoted was from quite a while ago.

I was thinking about trying the settings that you posted.

I have used S2U2 before. The company that I work for does not push any security policies onto our phones, so I can use it. Personally, I don't use any form of pin lock. I only use the lock to keep from accidentally having the phone do things.

I need to be up early tomorrow, but I may have a little time tonight to do some testing.