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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gregb882:
You are appreciated!

Please know that many of us, if not most of us, sincerely appreciate the obvious hard work you've put in with the FAQ & Bug sections and have learned a great deal because of your efforts. I haven't posted much over the last several months because I've learned to be patient and to read-read-read. I'm not nearly as technical as many of you and I don't try to manipulate settings as much as many of you meaning my problems tend to be more superficial in nature, so I’ve only

had

to ask for help once. (Notice that I said “had”. Early on, before being gently pointed in the right direction, I did ask a couple questions to which I could have found answers had I been a bit more tenacious.)

I rarely get to read posts frequently enough to help point another n00b in the right direction (before one of you have already gotten to them), but I’ll try to do that so you and the other Senior contributors can spend your time on more meaty questions/issues.

Thanks again.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] J_M_H:
First, thanks for the answer cajunflavoredbob. I know that the mantra is "Search the thread first", but with a very active thread like this one, the amount of information is overwhelming. Sometimes you search and just miss it.

As for the WM version cooks choose, I was thinking in more technical terms. Obviously, speed and memory size are considerations. Are these the only ones, or are there other less obvious ones?

Just curious.....

Regards,

J_M_H
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wmg316:
NRG's 21680 9/29/10 Observations

This is just my observation.

I flashed Energy.RHODIUM.21680.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Sep.29; ROM is REALLY faster than the 21679. I bumped up my normal page pool from 14 to 18 because I was getting graphical glitches on occasion...so far, working great.

I do not use the CHT Scheduler. After trying it out, setting some of what I thought were basic settings, I started having troubles with data connections...specifically BING...the navigation stopped working. I adjusted settings in CHT Sch for 30 minutes trying to get it to work without any luck. So, I flashed the Energy Standard (Energy.RHODIUM.21680.Sense2.5.Sep.29) and installed CHT and CHTE only...set it up like I always do...and BING worked. I could not deal with the green icons that you get when you install CHT over Energy ROM, so I reinstalled Energy.RHODIUM.21680.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Sep.29...set it up...and DID NOT touch CHT Sch this time...and BING works. All of this was done in the same recliner over a period of an hour or so. This tells me that maybe CHT Sch plays with my data connection more than I would like it to!

EDIT: I don't know how many use the CHT Scheduler? Maybe if NRGZ28 cooked CHT and CHTE, and omitted CHTS, there would be less bugs in the ROM?? CHTS can always be installed as an addon...

I also do not use the multilevel widget screens. I did have them set up (3 wide), and it just seemed to drag down the performance and speed of the ROM with everything loaded. I did have the widget screens loaded with clocks, a music player, and numerous free links...and my device became noticeably slower.

Bug Report:

There is a graphics error that I referenced

here

. With my OCD, this is driving me crazy...so I will mention it again:

'J-Hop2o6' reported

here

and

here with pics

in the CHT thread.

'CLHatch' replied:

'santod040' reported:

I have attached the pics of CHT Home tab and CHT Sense tab. I am assuming that this can be fixed by replacing the proper skinned manila file in the Windows directory...or maybe in the next ROM in the cooking process?? Hopefully NRGZ28 will see this post and give this some consideration in his next ROM!! :)

Overall, I really love the speed of NRGZ28's 21680 ROM!!!!! :D

@ NRGZ28: Please accept this for your continued effor in making our devices worth having!!! Confirmation: 1UL75354S2017323G
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Yorkshiretaff:
Sept 29th flip clock lock?

Hi,

Just flashed the Std Sept 29th (in sig as 'test') and just found the flip clock locked at 15:18. I've rebooted abd it's now flipping, but was just wondering if anyone else had experienced this.

Thanks

YT
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] piaqt:
Like cooking pasta. Throw it at the wall and see what sticks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
Took the plunge

Since the newest version only comes in CHT 2.0, I went ahead and installed it. I have had a couple of lockups (3 or 4) at first, which I have not seen before in any NRG ROM. (This is both with and without overclocking - that was my first thought). After the initial install my TP2 got a bit hot. Along with this the battery drained unusually faster than normal for a fresh install.

I solved the battery drain by powering off the unit for a couple of minutes. After I powered back on, it was back to normal temperature and no more lockups. I have seen this heat issue on a couple of ROMs, but not for several months. I don't know, maybe the GPS was engaged or something.

I think the ROM is somewhat faster than the last one.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
In my opinion this is the fastest 6.5.x I have ever used.

I am not experiencing any of the problems you reported, even using OC. You may want to reflash, just in case.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
Always search / Importance of Accurate Title of posts / Do not reference pages.

Still not a good reason for users to not at least attempt to search.

Although, as I have said before, posters of information can greatly improve the usefulness of the search functions by giving their posts an accurate summary in the Title of the post.

It's only a page back for me. I have gone to the User CP section and set the number of posts per page to 30. I tried 50, but it gave me some issues with Internet Explorer crashing a while back.

Since it is not known how many posts per page a user has, users should never reference page numbers or number of pages.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] uddikathusitha:
hi,,when i use htc touch pro 2 t-mobile for internet browsing it quickly get heat,,battery life also bad..i put latest rom radio also..can you please reply for this
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wmg316:
CHT Addon Widgets: Bug Report

I wanted to post this string of conversation here since the conclusion appeared to be a "cooking" problem:

Original post:

Reply by 'santod040':

Reply by 'Gooser711':

Reply by 'santod040':

Reply by 'Gooser711':
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] smitti:
Today I flashed the Energy.RHODIUM.21680.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Sep.29 and WOW I am impressed. Started with 75Mb ram en turned quickmenu on and it went to 107Mb and after playing with the rom ended at 82Mb ram.

all I can say "Damn this Rom is Fast!!!"
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nextie:
tnx lets test this one. i used the old one for more thene a half year and i love it.

Grtz and tnx from

NeXt
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] berrywr:
I'd appreciate it if someone could direct me to a XML E-Mail template for a BellSouth POP3 account. I have Google working via XML and XDA_UC but it appears that every time I try to make a template for my BellSouth accounts it fails to import. It does get old manually inputting e-mail with every flash; thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigBadger:
registry missing some CHT2 keys

If it is indeed the case that some keys are missing from the current EnergyROM CHT2 series, could someone that has installed the CHT2 on top of the ROM please export the keys to a REG file. With that, the chef can fix the issue for the next round AND the rest of us can import the keys in the meantime. CERegEditor works great for this. http://ceregeditor.mdsoft.pl/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Good news, sir. He's heard you and is taking action!

If you actually perform a search, I don't mind helping. That's the whole thing I get frustrated with is the concept of 'helping.' Helping doesn't mean doing the work for you. I will assist in finding the answer.

As for your question, ask the chef. I gave you the information that he's given us. Only NRG can tell you why NRG does things. ;)

If you would have read a few pages back, or done a search, you would have seen the several posts I made on exactly this subject. GTX is not compatible yet with CHT2. Be patient.

You could go into your User CP > Edit options and adjust the amount of posts per page. I set mine to 50, so my rant is still the second post on this page.

To answer your question, I believe you are using a GSM TP2. In that case you should head on over to the Leo CMDA thread and flash one of those. They make your phone perform magic. Expect lice, and use the shampoo. :)

Using IE? Really? Unless you're playing with the IE9 beta, that's just unforgivable! :p

Lookie what I found on the VERY FIRST PAGE of the thread on POST #5:

You should also refer to subtopic #5 (How to Post a Question on the Thread) of post #5 which shows you how to post questions to this thread. Until you decide to help yourself, I, as well as most others here, are likely going to ignore you.

Search for a program called makisu. Once you have your e-mail set up, you can run this program, and it will create the xml for you. It will also do wifi as a bonus.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dinky:
I downloaded 21679/21680 CHT 2.0 only ROMs from 9/26 and 9/29 and played with it a little. I'm still playing with the one from 9/29. The ROMs themselves are super. Thanks for the great work from the chef. Unfortunately, I too feel that CHT 2.0 is a bit too much for me, especially the scheduler.

It appears that CHT 2.0 has so many customizations you can do, and scheduler can help you to change the phone behavior for different time slots... Now I'm so afraid that I accidentally applied something to scheduler that I'm not aware of. I definitely second the idea to leave teh scheduler out of the ROM. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wspaw:
Can't Set Alarm to Vibrate Only

Probably my favorite ROM - I've flashed EVERY CHT 6.5.3 since Apr 14.

Had one freeze this morning after hitting the snooze on the alarm at 7:30am. Woke up at 8:30 to a frozen screen with the clock caught mid-flip at 6:34 ( I guess cause the hour seems to flip last and it was obviously after 7:30am). Fantastic time for a freeze. Anyway, none since.

I also can't figure out how to have the alarm vibrate without the playing the sound. I've got the system sound set to vibrate only. In the alarm GUI I have the vibrate option checked. In the sound field there's no option for "none". Anyone else have this issue?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DutchDanny:
Hello Everybody

The new CHT are great.

I'm not gonna use the CHT Scheduler, i also have problems with all the settings.

Mabye gonna use it later on.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] NRGZ28:
What ?! What keys are missing?

If we're talking about widget slots reg entries and "CHTI" entries, I thought Cookiemonster said NOT to cook in any CHTI entries because they're generated at runtime. And arent the widget cab setup.dll supposed to add those slot entries when you install them ? Why would I need to cook them in ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigWopHH:
CHT 2.0 Slower, Buggier On NRG's Cooked ROMs

I'm not sure what the chef is doing to tweak CHT 2.0 when cooking it into his ROMs, but it seems to have a noticable affect on performance and stability, for the worse. Perhaps he's tweaking some settings from v1.8.5 that aren't in v2.0?

For that last two releases, I've first tried the 21679 / CHT 2.0 and 21680 / CHT 2.0 ROMs, with Cookie's Home Tab baked in, and had some minor bugs which I posted about a few days ago. And I also noticed less fluid animations. These bugs weren't present on NRG's v1 CHT 2.0 ROM that was pulled after a few hours, though.

So, having experienced the smoothness of the v1 ROM, I've tried both 21679 and 21680 Standard ROMs and installed CHT 2.0 myself. The performance different is very noticable and the bugs I mentioned a few days ago aren't present.

Anyone that's thinking about avoiding CHT 2.0 because of stability or performance issues should really try one of NRG's Standard ROMs and installing CHT 2.0 manually. In my opinion, CHT 2.0 is nearly as stable as 1.8.5 while offering many more features and VASTLY improved performance. Don't miss out!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
Flash of Energy.RHODIUM.21680.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Sep.29

Flash of Energy.RHODIUM.21680.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Sep.29

I am at work now, but could not resist. I already missed one update.

Flashing via Storage Card. SIM is removed. Will not be able to do my sync through WiFi, since I am at work.

I am restoring the normal things that I restore through XDA_UC, aside from cookie version and cookie settings. This includes the 4 column program tab.

Update complete. Restarting (2:11 PM). Starting For First Time (2:12 PM ). XDA_UC started. (2:14 PM).

Restarted (2:19 PM). Powered Down (2:22 PM). Inserted SIM (2:22 PM). Powered Up (2:22 PM). Detected and selected Carried (2:24 PM).

Start->Internet->Active Sync started (2:25 PM). (256 contacts / 580 emails / 25 calendar / 26 Tasks) Sync Complete at (2:33 PM)

Mark all as read for other accounts (2:35 PM)

Went to people tab. All favorites are restored.

Going through all other tabs. (All looks good. Twitter wants me to log on. Not doing that yet.)

Enabling Compact Start Menu. This restarted the phone, as it should. I like that animated start screen.

Placed test call. Worked fine.

Twitter tab still wanted me to login. Tried. It did nothing. Going to reset once more. This worked.

Looks great. Setting up cookie home tab. I like to see appointments and tasks, so I am adjusting the layout slightly.

Accidentally removed voicemail indicator. Added back, by adding a free link. Indicator.

So, it is a pain to align the widgets to be the exact same y position. Haven't found any reg entry for it yet either.

Rom looks great though.

Had no issues adding free links.

More review later. Have a lot of actual work to do.

Not experiencing any issues with the Talk button. I thought I read that there was an issue. But, I am not seeing any problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
I considered it, but my device is quite stable at the moment, so I'm going to stay with it for a while. I've had no issues since yesterday afternoon.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
I have never come across a setting to have the alarm vibrate only. Even if the device is set to vibrate, the alarm function overrides that and goes off anyhow. Why would you need an alarm that doesn't go off? You could get around this by making it an appointment instead of an alarm.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Android ROM

NRGZ28 uploaded an old ROM based on the 21889 SYS that is basically stipped of everything but basic start up routines onto Hotfile. This is an old build that is listed as Energy.RHODIUM.21889.Android(ULTRA LITE ROM)_28.Jan.2010.rar. For some of us who have been around for a while, this is nothing new. For all the newer people, this is NOT an Android ROM. It is a WM6.5 build that starts up extremely fast so you can launch XDAndroid faster.

Again, THIS IS NOT AN ANDROID ROM. It hardly has anything on it so that it is light and starts quickly.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wspaw:
I find this useful for the exact same reason I find a vibrating alert for an incoming call useful. Strange that you can make it vibrate and sound but not just vibrate. Anyway, the system volume used to overide the alarm alert in older builds. Setting an appointment is a less convenient, but, I guess it would work. Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
Alarm - no sound - but vibrate - solution

Another option is just to use a sound fie that has no audio.

Look for something like ICR_NO_BEEP or something like that.

Then rename the file to something.

Use it.

Or just make your own audio file that has no sound.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] monomer888:
I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for, but you can try going to the "Clock" setting in the Settings menu and unchecking the "Sound alarms even when the device is set to silent or vibrate" option in the Alarms tab.

Under the CSM, it's under Settings > More Settings > Clock.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wmg316:
Have I said lately how fast the new ROM is?? :p

On my device, Energy.RHODIUM.21680.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Sep.29 is the fastest ROM I've had on my Tilt 2 since I bought it!! I'm loving it!!! :D

Thanks again NRGZ28!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wmg316:
Go to Alarm Clock; select your alarm; set the time; choose Alarm sound = "silent"; set Vibrate to "On".

In your first post...you stated: In the sound field there's no option for "none". That is correct...but there is a "silent" that works.

Confirmed that this works.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] billybag:
NRG ROM cooked with HTC Messaging Client by DeathAngel and G-ThGraf in it would be stunning.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vybzkartel:
Energy.RHODIUM.21680.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Sep.29 nice rom, I played with it until it started to act up. All MMS messages that came in rendered the phone unusable had to reset which took like 2 - 4 mins for each boot sometimes wouldn't even boot the Cookie Tab unless I reset again. Going back to standard for now I like the direction CHT is taking nice job.:cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bennyb0y:
Convenient exit from Opera! Data sauto-disconnect.

Hey!!

Just realised with the 26.Sep ROM thatt on exit from the current Opera session,the data connection terminatesg8
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vybzkartel:
I read a few posts back you can disable this.:o
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] J-Hop2o6:
sorry if i didn't reply to your (or anyone else) reply's to me.. i was behind in posts, and kinda skimmed thru it.. im still on Sept 26/6.5.X/CHT 2.0b/v1 .. yea i know.. but i set it up to where i don't have any problems (after 2 hard resets from testing it out).. what i did was COMPLETELY avoid touching ANYTHING CHTS.. i think that what caused a few problems for me.. i also took out the SMS & Mail widgets and only have 1 widget screen (the main screen).. i use 3 lvls tho (1= compact clock w/ weather + notif. bar + small music player + 1 row of QL .. 2= 5x4 quicklinks .. 3= full screen w/ thin clock bar).

but yea, the reason i haven't upgraded yet is because the dust seems like it hasn't settled yet.. seems like others keep having problems.. i think it was how NRG adjusted the post-sept26v1 roms.. not completely sure,, and a few other problems.. plus like i said, i set my sept26v1/6.5.X to where i don't have problems.

but my question to u WMG is, is sept29 better than sept26v1? and how? i see u said no problems so far.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigWopHH:
I wish I had kept the V1 ROM installed myself.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] piaqt:
It's so nice not being the only curmudgeon in the crowd! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] J-Hop2o6:
don't u keep your DL'd roms? i do for about a month or two, then delete them.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigWopHH:
No, but I'm going to start keeping my favorites for a while. I do keep a copy on my SD card for emergencies (already saved me once), but I haven't been holding onto older revisions.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] J-Hop2o6:
yea ppl should start holding on to them for atleast a month.. just in case.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wmg316:
The Sept29 is faster IMO. Opening apps...e-mails...sliding...just overall a bit quicker.

The KEY for me was also not to touch anything CHTS. I did try the CHTS and posted my observations

here

. IMO, CHTS is overkill for a phone!! This experience ended up in a hard reset! :eek:

My setup is:

3 pages of 4x5 quick links

Level 0 with analog clock, Text clock (date, clock, alarm), notification bar

Level 1 with original flip clock w/weather, Notifications bar, Appointments date header showing up to 3 appointments

Level 3 with compact flip clock w/weather, big music player

...with NO extra widget pages (page 1 only)...pretty much how I had CHT 1.8.5 set up.

I toyed with the widgets and freelinks...but I like the e-mail tabs and SMS Sense tabs. Also, the free linked SMS indicator was not accurate for me...I have no problem with the notification bar (it has always maintained an accurate count); the free linked free RAM indicator showed more available ram than did Arkswitch (and the S2U2 indicator when locked; S2U2 and Arkswitch were the same...the free link indicator showed about 10mb more).

I did assign a few of the end tab redirects to my quicklinks (Settings tab, weather tab...and used NRG's Facebook and Twitter shortcuts on my Quicklinks).

I would like to use the CHT Soft Keys...but the skinning is...well...just butt ugly (IMO). On my device, the CHT Soft Keys do make the sliding very fast with no hesitations.

I installed this setup last night and have not had a problem thus far; hard keys continue to work.

And as I said, it just feels snappier than 21679.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wmg316:
Check your PM
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigBadger:
I can ditto this. As soon as I started to play with the CHTScheduling stuff. my phone started acting in ways I didn't like. Not sounding alarms, freezing. Resets...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] J-Hop2o6:
oops forgot to add in my Appointments w/ date, alarm, call history, & appointments.. so my setup is like this (pic of Lvl. 1 below--its the old pic tho, but w/o the extra widget screens now):

(1x3 aka 1 Homescreen x 3 Levels; 2 QL pages--I want my QL page indicators back.. i seen your post about it in the CHT 2.0 thread)

Lvl. 1 = Compact Clock (no flipping) w/ Weather | Notif. bar | Appointments bar w/ date, alarm, call history (or VM when available), & appointments.

Lvl. 2 = Quicklinks (5x4 & 2 pages .. 5x5 or 3 pages if needed)

Lvl. 3 = Full screen w/ thin clock bar (w/ date & alarm)

using CHT dock also.. but i switched it up a little, check below.

but yea, thx for the info WMG.. i might use 29, or wait for the next update.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigBadger:
My wife and step-daughter always complain that taking medicine does not good because they do not feel any better. I always then ask them how they think they would feel if they didn't take the medicine. The answer is 'worse'. Although it may seem that the reminders to search and completely describe the issue fall on deaf ears and do no good, I ask you to imagine what it might be like if no one did that. In fact, all you have to do is check out a few other threads that do not have self-moderation.

"The horror."
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wmg316:
Sorry to be off subject here...but...where did you get the Visual Voice Mail? Does it work good?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] piaqt:
Self-moderation (n): Senior members who are not afraid to go upside someone's head for trying everyone's patience.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] piaqt:
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...email&sa=Search&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

Back to topic: When nrg said this ROM is fast, he wasn't kidding! I also have more available RAM than previously.