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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
@Joe Bleau--

What a great find. I can always count on you for the latest home page tinkering. You're the Andre Agassi of 6.53: "image is everything."

@JVH3 and blutruck: I find, but only sometimes, my phone will not ring or ring a completely different ringtone. I only use one custom ringtone and that's installed on the phone, not the sd card.

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] motisu:
I have had this happen to me a few times. It always happens (TTBOMK) when I am in my car using a BT car adapter. I used to soft reset , but I found a better solution which usually works: I turn of BT on the TP2 and then turn it back on. I guess that it resets some value or reroutes the audio output to the BT driver.

Give it a try and tell me if it works.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gregb882:
FWIW, (to back up JVH3's comment) I just checked and my radio is still 4.29.25.57. I switched it back sometime last summer because it just seems to work better for me in my local. But the ROMs haven't changed it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Energy ROMs already have support for Opera 10. You are more than welcome to install it yourself if you want to. Opera 9.7 is cooked in as it is the latest version to have scalable zoom, which is needed for the zoom bar to work. Opera 10 does not have this feature for some reason, so it is not cooked in. Opera 11 was not, and will not be released for Windows Mobile.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
But then one just tap the screen and Opera 10's zoom bar appears.

One can download Opera Mobile 10 for Windows & not select make it the default browser during installation. Then test both 9.7 vs. 10 to see which one he likes the most w/o changing which browser opens on the internet tab.

Since there are no negative comments from the old timers so far about my uTask 1.4 post then it means that it works fine, right? :confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hefman:
I've noticed this as well when I'm using a BT headset and have MSVC set to announce calls and reminders through BT. When I power off my headset, the sounds for calls or reminders (or anything else) seem to be broken. It's almost as though the BT does not release the audio back to the device.

I've been soft resetting, but I will try turning BT on and off. Thanks for the tips.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] awalt:
Thanks for the info, I was not aware that Opera 11 would not support WM 6.5.

One more question, is it correct that if I install Opera 10 on my EnergyROM phone, it will use additional memory as the Opera 9.7 that is cooked in will still be there and cannot be uninstalled?

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
It's the additional storage space that is consumed. Think of it more as using additional disk space. It only uses memory when you run it. So, if you never run 9.7, but run Opera 10, then Opera 10 will use memory and Opera 9.7 will not. but both use storage space.

An exception to this is if something is cooked in to use XIP. (eXecute In Place). Then it does not load into memory, but instead is executed right there. I don't know all the details of this, but apps like Opera probably are not cooked into the XIP portion of the ROM. I'm thinking that is more for drivers or system level dlls. Someone else might be able to chime in with more details on XIP, but it is really more than you asked.

The short answer is that only running apps use memory. But all things installed use storage.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
If I can get it to reproduce again, I will try this. It has only happened once for me ever. At least that i am aware of. I'll connect up with blue tooth on my way home from work tonight to see if I can get it to reproduce.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
Since you only posted it 9 hours ago, not seeing posts about it mean nothing. Just like a request for help that gets no reply in the first day. A repost by the requester is not appropriate, since this is a global website. Many people such as myself are still at work and will not be installing anything until much later tonight if at all tonight. It does not mean I won't try it in a week. It does not mean it is not a great app. But, people have lives outside of XDA.

I suspect it does not run as a service inside of services.exe, which means that it is using one of the memory slots. You get a total of 32 memory slots.

Right now, without it, I am using 17 of them.

slot * - NK.exe - required

slot 1 - filesys.exe - required

slot 2 - cprog.exe - required

slot 3 - manila.exe - required if you are using Sense

slot 4 - device.exe - required

slot 5 - gwes.exe - required

slot 6 - BTTrayCE.exe - required

slot 7 - shell32.exe - required

slot 8 - WinStart.exe

slot 9 - ArkSwitch

slot 11 - services.exe - required

slot 12 - replog.exe - required

slot 13 - tmail.exe - required

slot 14 - battclock.exe

slot 15 - voicecmd.exe

slot 16 - LockDevice.exe - required

slot 18 - AudioManager_eng.exe - required

If it is a driver level app, like Tarkim's key mapper, then it won't take a slot.

Should it be cooked in?

Even if it works perfectly, I would say no, for now. If not everyone wants it, then it just takes up space for them. If it gets updated, then there are potential problems with installing the latest version. It looks like it was just updated yesterday, so dev is still active and therefore will probably get additional updates.

Any discussion of the usage of it or details should be in ultrashot's thread.http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=838858

ultrashot is a good programmer and not too long ago came up with a very good solution to the HTC Volume Control on the Raphael.

I will actually be trying this, but probably not until the weekend.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
This makes sense. My car stereo is blue tooth. When I shut off my truck, the car stereo shuts off. It's not a smooth disconnect. I wonder if it can be avoided by shutting off bluetooth on the phone first.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
Re: NRG ROM Tweak: Extra Button on Softkeybar

I was not really expecting instant feedback about the empty space on the Energy ROM's softkey bar and uTask to make use of it. It was a wisecrack as positive comments is not the first reflex of some users in this thread. ;) BTW thanks to Jackfish for the feedback. :cool:

uTask is not using any slots according to Task Manager v3.3 or ArkSwitch. I'm using less slots than you as I prevent ArkSwitch from starting on boot as explained in my original uTask post nor I am using voicecmd.exe and since I kill Activesync after syncing now with the uTask button > Task Manager it kills also it's companion software replog.exe liberating an other slot and more than 1 MB of RAM memory.

I disagree that discussion about uTask and the empty space on NRG's softkey bar should go in uTask's thread as it's a general one with users with different ROMs & phone models. I welcome any suggestion of apps that would do a better job than uTask to make use of the empty space.

Here are 2 ROMs for Rhodium vs. NRG's, both use the space with a button. So the softkeybar's looks & usage is relevant to a thread about NRG ROMs IMO. In the case of Sun Dream's ROM, it links to htctask.exe which is absent on NRG's. It opens HTC Task Manager for Pocket PC v2.1 (Build 1921.2822) and has the option of removing that button on the softkeybar and the possibility to add to an exclusion list contrary to the cooked in Task Manger light taskmgr.exe. This said the cooked Task Manager v3.1 (dotTaskMgr.exe) and the hidden/not linked in Start v3.3 (TaskMgr3.exe) offer much more tools including Registry Editor & other stuff.

The uTask cab is only 339KB so the space it takes in storage memory is trivial. Task Manager v3.3 does not list it in CPU usage nor in Process but does in Services: UTasksrv(UTSO) > UTaskSrv.dll, one of 33 services running on my Tilt 2 @ the present.

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I always toggle off Bluetooth on the phone before turning off my headset or turning off BT on the PC & never had any problems.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
@Joe Bleau--Alright, JB, now what are you going to fill the space b/w "Action" and "Menu" on the portrait Home Page :)

Like an empty plot in Escazu, it's crying for development.

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
Re: Softkey Bar Full Extra

Here ya go:

:p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
Lovely.

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
I have a BT toggle on my homescreen that I use for exactly this purpose. When I'm done using the truck audio, I hit the switch to toggle it off anytime I take the device out of the truck.

Normally, I just leave it in there while on a job or something, but when it comes out, I toggle the switch. I can't remember if I ever had this experience, but I also tend to steer clear of 290xx ROMs.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
Hey, speaking of glitches, has anybody tried out Mobile Macros by Artel on an EnergyROM? I was able to compose one macro, but all other times, upon hitting the record button, the screen calibration went centimeters off and I had to soft reset the phone.

I can't tell if it's a Touch Pro 2 or a ROM glitch, but I'm a big fan of macros.

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Careful, that's a paid app you're handing out there. On XDA it's considered warez and is a bannable offense. Make sure you aren't giving out the version of the app with your serial in it. There is a 15-day trial on it, I believe. I've used the app before with no trouble on my Rhodium. I haven't used it in at least five months, though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
Action > Bluetooth does the BT toggle trick too and saves 1 quicklink spot on Home.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] latinohot:
why some videos on youtube don't have any sound

for example when playing the clip of Charlie Sheen surprise visit to Jimmy Kimmel

my tilt2 doesn't have any sound to the clip

my wife's Pure running NRG rom dated feb 12, plays it just fine

I have been having this problem with many NRG roms on my tilt2, but none on my wife's Pure

looks like the problem is when playing high quality videos, any ideas anybody
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
To cook something in or not to cook something in.

What I was meaning by that was that future discussions on how to use it and configure it belong in that thread. People have a tendancy to turn this thread into a catch all for any and all things related to software that can be used on the Rhodium that can also be put on the Energy ROM.

Pointing out a new piece of software, when appropriate can be helpful. We all just need to remember that the thread is about Rhodium Energy ROMs, not additional software that can be installed or potentially cooked in.

Pointing out reasons why something should or should not be cooked into the ROM are valid. It makes sense for an app to first be used by people for a while after pointing out the app before the cooking discussion occurs. This give the users of the ROM some time to test it.

The fact that this software appears to be a service, potentially makes it a decent candidate to be included. This task manager (dotfred's task manager) launches faster than ArkSwitch. But, there is not a way to filter out processes that you would not want to kill.

Active Sync is necessary for users that sync over the air to an exchange server. Since you don't use Active Sync, you won't see this in your process list. But, I don't want to see it in my applications list as something to kill, because I need it to always be running. If you need to always be in contact with your exchange server, you don't want to accidentally kill Active Sync.

Ultrashot's app is configurable to launch any application or taskmanager instead of taskmgr.exe. (Haven't found a good way to just activate ArkSwitch yet. Probably could make an app just send a message.)

Something to always consider before suggesting that anything be cooked into the ROM: If a user does not want it and it is cooked in, can it easily be disabled? The fact that we have XDA_UC makes it very easy for us to add these custom things without affecting everyone that may not want it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Exactly. Spot on.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hefman:
Just to update, this happened to me on the way home from work this evening. The first scenario was when I was making a few voice dial calls, MSVC stopped working after a bit and I noticed that I was getting no text message audio alerts, although the notifications were there on the device. Toggling BT restored the audio. I got a few more texts (no, I was not reading them while I was driving... lol) and then, when I shut off my headset, the notifications weren't working again. Toggling BT again restored them.

This scenario has been happening to me since 28244. I've been thinking it was a MSVC issue with newer builds, but now it sounds like it could be related to the BT stack in the rom, since others seem to have similar issues without MSVC (or so I'm assuming...).

Anyway, thanks to motisu for the tip. Big time saver...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Monfro:
Bluetooth issue

The bluetooth issue on Rhodium EnergyROM (GSM and CDMA) is quite documented.

It is something related to BT stack/drivers.

NRGZ just received 2 bluetooth headsets from Powinmo, a Rhod CDMA user.

I am sure he will find a solution (seems like bluetooth on Verizon stock rom and custom roms based on it works well).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] KRZTF:
iGo 8 issues - BEST GPS software?

hello everyone!

i am too having issues with iGo 8 navigation software.

it's still the problem with entering text in iGo, as it constantly inputs the letter A with a circle overt it..., could be a conflict with the hardware keyboard?

after a search, i found that others have those probklems as well!

is there a fix for that yet?

what navigation software would you recommend to use with the latest energy ROMs?

thanks in advance & br,

krz
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
CFB, this is the trial version. I mean, I downloaded it from Artez's "try it" section, and if a user installs it, there's a place for registration.

But I've pulled the file even though it's the same trial version at many legal sites sites, eg:

http://microsoft.handango.com/Platf...Type=2&catalog=0&sectionId=0&productId=259161

Interesting, I wrote to the developer, looking for help, and this is the reply just in:

Hello Jake,

We didn't test Mobile Macros on this device and the such problem may exist on some devices.

Unfortunately, we stop developing and supporting of this app. Sorry

Best Regards,

www.artelplus.com

Too bad. I can't get this to run on my T-Mobile TPs, but you did... I wonder if it's a ROM thing. Hard to know, especially when the app's discontinued.

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
Since I connect, via bt, my phone and Linux machines, I've become very aware of bt differences with each ROM. Quite often, channels will simply bump up or bump down a channel or so. For instance, file transfers usually are Channel 2 on my phone. But I've seen recent ROMs where the file transfer channel became Channel 3 on a TP2.

I don't use the bt audio connections, but if I'm finding this kind of fluidity w/ every ROM, I wonder if the troubles are all sort of connected.

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jezi:
I had this problem w/ NRG ROMs too. What I do is when on igo8, I go to Settings/Device and "Power Management Use Device Settings" should be showing and it stops inputing the A's.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] martian07:
BT sound problem; Opera10

I have noticed this on most ROMs including 28244. I never new the reason and did not have solution other than restart. It had been quite frustrating at times. But one ROM that did not give this problem is 21684 Nov 8, 2010. I keep going back to this ROM only because of this even though I try almost all of NRG releases. For sure it has something to do with the BT stack.

I have installed Opera 10 on my SD card once and never install it again with any new flash. I just have shortcut to that in my UC folder [root/windows/startmenu/program/...] and a quick link on CHT config. Works perfect.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
Re: Task Manager v3.3 is Cooked-in

I agree with your nuance about what is on topic or not in this thread. Extensive discussion about a suggested app should be done in that app's thread. If an app is cooked in then we can discuss more about it here within a certain limit, etc.

I initially posted a link like yours in this post to dotfred's task manager v3.3 and downloaded it & installed it but then osiedacz pointed out that it's already cooked in Energy's ROMs.

Why is there no link to it in Start > Tools or why Start > Tools > Task Manager links to the older and NOT finger friendly Task Manager v3.1? That could be easily be fixed in the next NRG's ROMs. Note that once you run Task Manager v3.3 then Registry Editor also becomes finger friendly (I think but it could be because I installed/uninstalled v3.3).

Anyway, I made a cab that creates a link to Task Manager v3.3 in Start > Tools. You can find it in this post: Re: Task Manager v3.3 is Cooked-in?.

I don't think that the lack of filter for the process list in Task Manager v3.3 justifies wasting 1.54 MB of RAM memory by running all the time ArkSwitch in the background as it is currently set by default in Energy's ROMs. One can see the How to Kill ArkSwitch post if one wants to prevent that & simply add a shortcut to ArkSwitch to uTask button or Home quicklink or Start > Tools > ArkSwitch when that app is needed instead of having it running all the time.

A workaround is to select the finger friendly large icons options available in Task Manager v3.3 to prevent closing a process by mistake. One can also select the Process tab to show first when opening taskmrg3.exe (which is the program you may choose in uTask's shortcuts). Note that the Registry Editor also becomes finger friendly after using v3.3 as shown above.

The problem with ActiveSync is that if you don't constantly sync over the air and just use it once in a while when connecting to your PC via USB then it runs for ever in the background even if you restart the phone. :mad: I ran some searches but there are a tons of irrelevant/complicated results to the current OS build in NRG. If someone could point me to a solution to automatically kill ActiveSync after syncing via cable, that would be cool. Meanwhile every time I finished syncing to PC and immediately after disconnecting the phone, I made an habit of hitting the uTask Home button and manually kill ActiveSync which automatically kills it's companion repllog.exe. I do the same after restarting the phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] berrywr:
You may flash the radio by itself or flash the radio at the same time you perform a Task 29 prior to installing NRGZ28's Energy ROMs.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
If you quote properly (include the closing tag), people can link back to the post by clicking on the quote.

I've done it in this post. I have not verified what Wild Child has done. Ths just provides a link to it through the quote.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] eightorzz:
yea i went to that radio thread.. thought i had the latest radio i also thought i said att was my carrier.it worked before i flashed energy. it worked after i flashed for a couple days. ill look into the magnet thing. no screen protector and screen is in good shape. also flashedwithout sim or sd card. even reformatted the sd card and task 29 and reflashedit
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wmg316:
Have you tried this:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
Re: Prevent ActiveSync Autostart on Boot - Proximity Sensor Problem

The Thanks button on your post got hit for that tip! It solved half of the problem which is: it prevents ActiveSync & it's companion repllog.exe from autostarting when booting (turning on or restarting) the phone. :cool:

To simplify the steps as I use Task Manager v3.3 and tap & hold gives a popup menu to disable the notification:

Open Task Manager in Start > Tools.

Choose Notifications tab.

Tap & hold repllog.exe AppRunAfterTimeChange and select Disable notification in the popup menu. Do the same to Enable again.

Tests:

After restarting the phone, ActiveSync is no more in the running applications as seen in Task Manager, ArkSwitch or Winstart's task manager switch/kill programs upper bar. It saves 1.5 MB of RAM memory on my phone running Energy Mar.15 ROM for the benefit of other apps you may run. And repllog.exe is not occupying a Slot anymore.

Without ActiveSync running in the phone's background, Windows Mobile Device Center (WMDC) still starts automatically on my Windows 7 PC if selected on the phone's Connect To PC popup menu when inserting the USB cable.

After disconnecting the phone from the PC, ActiveSync is still running in the phone's background. :(

That's not a big problem as I wrote above: every time I finished syncing to PC and immediately after disconnecting the phone, I made an habit of hitting the uTask Home button and manually kill ActiveSync which automatically kills it's companion repllog.exe. If ActiveSync would be automatically killed after disconnecting the phone then it would be just one more thing not to have to think about.

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Re: Proximity Sensor Problem

Be careful, don't use a powerful magnet as it could damage the phone. :eek: I did not try that as I don't have a proximity sensor problem. I was just pointing to a testimonial on a thread about your problem.

Naturally your first reflex is to blame the NRG ROM but >>>>>> What happens if you flash back to the AT&T Tilt 2 OEM ROM? Does it fix your proximity sensor problem? If not then you have a hardware problem and

only after doing that ultimate ROM/proximity sensor troubleshooting step

would I try the magnet trick before sending the unit for servicing the proximity sensor.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Galaen:
Weird sms issues

I am having an odd sms issue. My wife is using Straight Talk prepaid, and she cannot receive my texts. She receives from others perfectly, and she can send them to me perfectly. I can also send them to everyone else perfectly as well. The only thing I did to my device was change the radio, and when I noticed the issue, I reverted back but it still will not work. My next step was, after flashing the "working" radio (the one in my sig) I task 29'd, then flashed the newest March rom. It still will not work properly.

Does anyone have any ideas? I am thinking of installing the official att rom, then reflashing Energy after another task 29. Would this possibly solve my problem? This post might serve me better in the Radio thread, but I am confident in the knowledge of the people populating this thread. So, has anybody run into this problem, or know of a possible fix? Thanks in advance!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] latinohot:
my bad, I just thought someone should notify that none of the NRG roms is able to play HQ videos with sound...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] eightorzz:
it would seem logical that i could bypass the proximity sensor all together? i mean energy rom does have toggle switches for the sensor and light.. but i didnt seem to notice a difference with them on or off..