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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Archangel22:
Nope Im not connected via ATT. I am connected to Vodafone Australia. Its bizare,I actually deleted my proxy thinking that was it, but I still cant browse the web. Man I want my phone to work so I can access the web. Its handy when Im at work or traveling especially now that NBA is startling lol.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Bruce Inman:
Check your selected networks in advanced connection settings. Since you're on Vodaphone I don't know what they use, but I change mine to MediaNet for AT&T.

@Farmer Ted, this may be your issue with PIE over WiFi.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jd254:
for me... all i had to do was go to settings>system and press "Update PRL" and then "Update Profile"

I'm with Sprint though... and that's what they did for me.

Call your provider up and ask
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Farmer Ted:
If none of the above works, your best move is to just flash a custom rom. Then everything will work the way it's supposed to.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] hybridfury:
When my TP2 is in standby/sleep mode, shouldn't the LED at the top blink green every 10-15 seconds? I thought it did this, but now it's not or I just thought it did this.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] .mak:
Mine doesn't. I, too, have the Verizon TP2.

My Apache, Mogul and Vogue all did.. but not the TP2, not for me.

I'm sure there's a setting somewhere to change this, though.

-mak
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] hybridfury:
Hmmm odd, I could have sworn it did as it did on my 6700 and 6800 models. It flashes green every 5 seconds or so if i have a new email or other type of notification, but man I could have sworn it flashed every 10-15 seconds just for the hell of it lol.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] xnifex:
the TP2 did away with the blinking LED letting you know the phone was on & in service. Good riddance...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] drae1980:
yeah as the person above me said htc did away with the service led on all of there new devices the G1 doesent to and niether do the touch diamond, and touch pro, touch diamond 2, touch HD, magic/mytouch, or the hero. i totally feel you though i had a blackberry cuve before my tp2 and i feel a little empty with out the flashing light, but on the other had i see why HTC threw it out because its more of a novelty, it makes much more sense to have it only to flash for notifications.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] twolostminds:
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In SMS choosing Menu Soft Key > Mark all as read = MMS Options screen.

All other selections seem to work properly. Might have messed something up in the registry....any help would be greatly appreciated.
[Touch HD General] Hookani:
Hi,

Was wondering if there is any way to see the file names, especially with the video files. As it is right now my movies start with a black screen and the way the browser works is it shows the beginning of the movie as the thumbnail so there is no way to tell which thumbnail is what movie.

Thanks,

Ho'okani
[General Topics] OliveUK:
Hi everyone,

I am currently synchronising my HTC Touch HD to my laptop and it has already been 2 or 3 hours for a 20Mo Pim.vol file.

How long is it supposed to take? ActiveSync seems to be stuck at 20% of "processing" the Calendar. I did the same operation with my Palm T5 yesterday using Palm Hotsync and it only took 4 minutes....

As suggested on an other thread, I don't use the TouchFlo3d.

It is not the first time I am having such trouble actually, I tried with 3 other computers in the past.

If it wasn't for Calendar+, SBP Diary and the size of the HD screen, I would have gone back to PalmOS immediately.
[General Topics] OliveUK:
after 4 hours on my laptop I eventually gave up then tried on my desktop with the same result.

I left ActiveSync work overnight and found that the status bar didn't move at all in 8 hours...

Is there a way to manually restore the Windows mobile Pim entries from the phone to Office on my desktop? (without typing the 4000 entries manually obviously ;-) )
[General Topics] Rudegar:
easy way is to use usbmass storage mode and connect the pda as a drive

and copy it that way copying using activesync is not something one should

wish on ones worst enemy
[General Topics] dirlan2001:
Hi,

It should take no more as a few minutes.... This sounds more like a corrupted file, as if either one side cannot read/write or detect changes in the PIM files. Did you make a backup and tried to put it back in place ?

Dirk
[General Topics] OliveUK:
I don't think it my pim file is corrupted. How would I find out?

At the end of the day the only thing I want to do is to wipe out all the infos stored on Office on my computer and replace them using the ones from my Windows Mobile. Is there a way to do that without using ActiveSync? It has now been 3 full day attempts :-( with 3 different computers.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] abiis:
:(:(Can someone help me how can i put a .gif picture as wallpaper and keep it moving because i puted the gif picture as wallpaper on my htc hd it dont move you know what i mean:(:(
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] otacon:
I don't think that's an option without additional 3rd party software.

If you like, you can flash EnergyROM. I know he has that function...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] abiis:
how to flash EnergyROM
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Junp3i:
I'm looking at upgrading to a new HTC Hero but the shops wont take my phone without it being stock.

Anyone got a Stock Magic ROM I can use?

Also is there anyway to get the recovery back to default ( I have Amon Ra's recovery )

All going well I could get my Hero tomorrow.

Thanks in advance guys!

{{{{UPDATE}}}}

I found a nandroid backup I made a while ago. Everything is back to brand spanking default, back when I fastbooted the recovery.

Feel free to lock/delete this thread :)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] andrewmr:
Could you share this so I could flash it too? I need it for the exact same purpose :p

I'm currently using Amon Ra's recovery and Cyanogen.

Cheers
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] spyz88:
I cant believe this. Cyanogen just twittered this:

Sorry everyone, CyanogenMod in it's current state is done. I am violating Google's license by redistributing their applications.

More at: http://twitter.com/cyanogen

(Mods I know it should belong in General but the developer thread should know about it then the other ones. Forgive me)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Johnny Blaze:
You are taking it all wrong. He hasn't been shut down, wont be shut down, etc. Read the original statement. As long as you any apps that arent part of the source code repository you are not violating anything as far as google is concerned.

With a high-quality open platform in hand, we then returned to our goal of making our services available on users' phones. That's why we developed Android apps for many of our services like YouTube, Gmail, Google Voice, and so on. These apps are Google's way of benefiting from Android in the same way that any other developer can, but the apps are not part of the Android platform itself. We make some of these apps available to users of any Android-powered device via Android Market, and others are pre-installed on some phones through business deals. Either way, these apps aren't open source, and that's why they aren't included in the Android source code repository. Unauthorized distribution of this software harms us just like it would any other business, even if it's done with the best of intentions.

I hope that clears up some of the confusion around Google's apps for Android. We always love seeing novel uses of Android, including custom Android builds from developers who see a need. I look forward to seeing what comes next!

So lets please stop being chicken little and get on with the dev work. Not including certain apps is not going to make or break any rom as each user should be able to find the apps on their own.

The sky is not falling although my home did get flooded in atlanta last week.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] spyz88:
You are aware of that the phone relies on ALOT on framework and other files. Have you tried to delete any of the Google Apps? The phone doesnt work without them. Also, open source replacements arent going to be pulled out of the air magically. Its going to take ALOT of work.

Are you sad all your stuff was ruined? :(
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] MontAlbert:
sure its not truly legal but i think its the way they have gone about it- and in the spirit of open source i fail to see how it affects them.....i thought their business plan was based on more people using the net, more people using their apps, and more people using google to search..... so surely he is creating more business for them?.....

I don't like where this is heading......
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] John Player:
jealous

if i was google id be going mad too, seeing the new youtube and market on phones and its not supposed to be out yet.

maybe they will offer him a job
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] spyz88:
I totally agree and I think those apps were the straw that broke the camels back...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] redmdc:
Its all crap no one not even google can stop someone developing a rom with copyrighted

material on the internet.there are many ways to cover this up without being traced

Anyway what's stopping a simple script downloading google apps onto the device on boot? Nothing as android as source is open
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Johnny Blaze:
The frameworks, etc and files needed to run the os are part of what you can get from the repository. I set up my mac to cook my own roms so I do know whats there and what isnt.

I bootcamped back into vista, loaded adb explorer and removed market, gmail, youtube, and maps. My phone does work without them. If you need gmail then yes there would be an issue but only reason i have gmail is that it was required for me to get my G1 when it came out. Try it for yourself. You will be a lot less functional but your phone will still work.

Besides Google is kinda in a shaky spot. Win mo although not great is established along with RIM os, and Iphone so Android is still in the growing stage and to attract the business users it has to have no hiccups or possible easy exploits so I do believe they will do a lot of barking but very little bite. Probably if Cyanogen wouldnt have made it on engadget, yahoo, msn probably wouldve been left alone.

There are still better things to do with the os. The real dev work is what cyanogen and others do with the kernel, memory management, etc not the apps included with the rom.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] doooshty:
PROJECT:OpenAndroid

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=564263 We are attempting to as a community replace all of google's parts with opensourced programs developed and written ourselves. If you have any thoughts or suggestions please let us know.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jvincent66:
The issue is that right now if you want to create a useful ROM you need to include the Market app at a minimum.

Sure Gmail is easy enough to replace, and Maps can be downloaded from the Market. But wait, you can't download it from the Market because you don't have a Market app.

So until there is an open source way to access the Market the ROM development community for Android pretty much hosed.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] parrot5:
Hopefully this is not heading to where I think it is heading to... Or I might just jump on the next iPhone and say bye bye to Google.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] TheArtiszan:
Actually just a though. Just make a way to for the end user to back the google apps and then after a flash to reload them back on after install. That is not violating their stoopid terms then lol. And then for any updates just providing where you can get the updated stuff directly from google. Like where to get market 1.6 and so forth just right from google. Again no violating anything google. Defiantly a sad day for android. Since they don't let tethering , more then 3 home, not having file system access (like win mo), and no ads (adfree) lol, and many of the other great things with out root. If Google sees this thru I am going to go back to Apple iPhone and to hell with Android. Google will loose alot of users out of this I think.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] MrDva:
Just write apps to tie you in with Hotmail / contacts / calendaring / outlook and leave GMail totally out of it.... Google will change their tune about the usage of 'their' apps. Because really they get the most from it by keeping you tied in to their online services.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] RotoRooted:
:eek:

Wow! I dont even know what to think. It must be a cold day in hell. I really hope that Cyanogen and the devs here @xda can come up with a way around this. And to think that Cyanogen was making some serious headway with the development of his Roms, website, and YouTube channel. I am more or less in shock right now. I have all the faith in the world that you guys will come through this still developing the best the Android community has to offer. Just be patient...

And seriously?...you would switch to Iphone? Who the #UCK wants one of those pieces of $H1T.:mad:

NOT ME!!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] mpwarner:
I highly doubt google would actually follow through and take legal action on something like this. It would be a bad business move all around. I would expect the C&D are more about pleasing manufactures and carriers more then google being worried about their own code, in which case who can blame them as they are at a point where they desperately need to attract these companies in order to ensure the future of android.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cursordroid:
Just received a pretty interesting article via Twitter.

http://bit.ly/2NjYST

Not my article, and not necessarily my opinion, but it's a good read.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] lesjaw:
Arrgghh..google..

Bubye google apps..lets just forget them!

Modified android is much important then google apps itself!!

Google, you are very ridicoulous!! You make your app avaliable free for other system, but for your own system? Even now you make gmail support exchange..

I think i hate google as much as i hate apple..lol..
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] str4vag:
I beg to differ. The phone works without the google apps. I know. Thats what I had when I first got my HTC Magic 32A. For some reason, HTC did not include ANY of Google's stuff in it.

So, no market, no gmail, no maps, no youtube. It was boring as hell. but i still can do pretty much all i needed to do on it (emails, txt and calls).

Just had to imap/pop3 sync gmail using the HTC email client. One thing I hated was the fact that I need to rely on SlideME for my apps. SlideMe(at the time) had very limited apps.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] deerain:
So is including the market breaking the rules, if it is can someone setup a webpage alternative to download apps then just not include google stuff. Open street maps has better maps anyway so i use rmaps, google mail well plenty of email clients about. If we wait i am syre there will be alternative apps for the other google stuff.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] parrot5:
Or, oh, I dunno, how about adding a default bookmark android-leak or something and let users download pirated apps? "To bypass the Google Market"? LOL... Basically Google wants us to know that including their apps for free (as in Cyanogen roms) is just like pirating apps, so we are the bad guys already anyway.

I really hope Google will not follow up with the C&D and further spread fear all around.

We are all Google's pawns by using Google apps, let them see our email, see our location, store our search preferences etc to "return better result for your searches" or really, target marketing. When we stop using Google apps (, and move our business to, gasp, Hotmail), they will like it better?

Just saying I'm not happy with the news and I'm going to vote with my money when the next device comes along. I thought Google was the "good guy", but now I think Apple and Google both seem like they think they are the gods of the world anyway.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] elegos:
A possible way to make Cyanogen legal and so on is to let programs like Gmail, YouTube and so on available on the market, which should be released as free. Each installation of original ROMs should then have updates of these programs for free, while you'll have to pay if the ROM is not an OAH original one. This should let cyanogen continue distributing his ROM but you should pay once for those problems - or just don't use them.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] brucemcl:
plenty of blame for T-Mo, other carriers

Some of the legal problems that Cyanogen is facing would disappear if we had true root access to the OS software that comes with the phone. T-Mobile owns this access and they use it when they publish system software updates. If you and I have that kind of access then everything changes. There is no need to flash ROMs, you could just install third party system updates. There is no need to include proprietary apps on the third party system updates, because the apps would be on the phone already.

Of course T-Mobile and the other carriers do not want to give me true root access to the shipping system software on the phone. They have their reasons for withholding it.

But consider this. I can buy a Netbook from Verizon Wireless or ATT Wireless. It comes with a data plan. When I buy the Netbook I get complete access to the OS. I have root access, or at least I hope I do. I can modify the system software as much as I like. I can run all kinds of different software that uses the carrier's data connection.

What happens when the first Android Netbook ships? Do I get root access when I buy one from a carrier, or not?

The carrier's networks are either delicate or they are strong. If they are strong enough to handle modified computers with no complaints from the carriers whatsoever, then I bet that they are strong enough to handle modified phones. So give me the root password, T-Mo!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] st0kes:
everyone hold your horses

Google's T's and C's were laid out when AOSP was launched and the terms have been breached. We can't blame them for coming down on Cyanogen, even though this news does cast a bleak shadow over the future of Android rom development.

The way I see it is if this is just the redistribution of the closed source aspects of Android that they have a problem with, cant we create and supply roms without Gmail, Maps, Market, etc, and then have an icon in the launcher to 'get proprietary apps from google' which gets them from Google, legally?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cursordroid:
There are quite often situations where closed source apps/binaries are required in an open source project.

A good example is the Linksys NSLU2. There is a Debian image available for this device, but the Intel NIC onboard requires proprietary closed source microcode from Intel. Before downloading the image, you need to agree to Intel's terms and condition on the use of the code.

It's not unreasonable to have users accept similar terms before installing a custom ROM. If it's kept on the level and it's all legal, then I don't see why it wouldn't be allowed by Google.

Of course, I'm sure there's a few holes in my logic. I'm sure that if us Android users and developers really want to use Google apps, we'll find a way.

My $0.02
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] pcm2a:
XDA and the crazy supply of different roms was probably main reason a lot of us are even using Android :( No roms = back to winmo?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] wrek:
why... because the iPhone is so much more open? lol
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] parrot5:
If you didn't read my reply, no. If Google pursue this further, with legal troubles to devs, I feel Google is not way ahead of Apple then.. Actually I think they just feel like two gods ruling the world.

Maybe I should add that I jumped to Google phone FROM the iPhone, and the only reason I jumped ship was because of the openness - unlimited amount of ROMs with guaranteed user experience (as the ROMs include Google's original apps and features). If Google is spreading fear to the devs cooking the ROMs, no fun is left for me, so I may just jump back to jailbreaking the iPhones.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Johnny Blaze:
There is actually another simple solution to these problems. There arent really many differences in the roms available as far as the core is concerned. There are mainly differences on optimizations, whats included, bfs or no bfs, cc or no cc, etc. None of the things that truly define the progress of the custom roms depends on the applications in question.

Similar to the many no wipe roms now available, instead of new roms we need to get working on updates that will only update certan files, kernel, etc. Add new features.

Along the way some apps will not work with certain updates but this is the nature of new improved software. Everything wont always work. Then we the users need to hammer on google to update their apps to support a future Cyanogen rom because hey he improved the base code but not the apps. When donut stuff got included the ball got taken out of google hands so leave it in their hands.

I am very quickly trying to get up to speed myself. Id much rather flash a small update then have to wipe, flash, resync contacts restore apps, etc from a backup each time an improved rom comes out.

To dumb it down for the few users who arent as knowledgeable....basically the apps remain the same. What the true work that jac, haykuro, cyanogen, twisted and others do have nothing o do with the apps. So there work can continue but we have to change to an update model and we as the users cant be jumping down their throats if x app no longer works we have to jump down googles to either give our devs some freedom, fix the apps, or incorporate the changes our devs made into the code tree and release an update with everything working for us. Also in the same 1 to 2 day time frame that we get them now.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Johnny Blaze:
Ill be the guinea pig for this solution.

Make a rom update that will reload the apps from an ext partition (apps2sd)

No apps included.

Ill try myself but not setup to resign the update yet so going to strip me down a rom move all my apps to sd using rav recovery then see what happens. Just need a script to auto move the apps back into the rom once on phone ie the reverse of what we can do in the recovery menu.

hmmmm

lets get something else added to recovery. restore dalvik cache and apps from sd.

going to downgrade my rom now from Evil Hero 2.9 to 2.7xx move my apps then strip 2.9 down sign it update then adb my apps back over. Maybe the solution is simpler than we thought.

if anyone else wants to try the same lets do it..btw nandroid backup ftw just in case.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] herichulo2132:
newb

ive been reading these post for quite some time and have mod my g1 so many times that if i brick my phone i know how to unbrick it. without all the information that has been given here i would have returned my g1 back to tmobile a long time ago, you have all made my CRAP g1 into something unreplaceble. You have just made a crap google product into something better.

im just wondering why all of you programers dont start a corp. to do just what your doing right now with the mods on the g1, set up a contract or agreement with tmobile to better their product. it seems to me that you are doing a better job at this then they are. starting a corp only cost a couple of hundred dollars.

it seems to me that you guys can program, apply, and design your own phones, i mean why not i would love to be part of something this big.