yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deeznuts:
Oh, ok. When reading i thought that was just a max sense problem and reason why max sense is the only rom to not be updated yet, guess not? Well that sucks a$$, i really like this release compared to the previous. This new core does seem a bit quicker and all. I can easily say for me its not cosmetic. I dont cosmetically drop calls in areas ive never dropped calls in before ever! So yes this is a real problem. So funny because its almost the same issue with the new iphone, just we have the problem now no matter how we hold our device, haha!

I have no idea on what NRG could have done to mess with signal quality, thats very odd. Oh well, ill try and stick it out with the latest release hoping this will be fixed today or the next?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shure2:
what happened to the lock screen like the android sense one? is it because i went back to 6.5 instead of 6.5.3 (or thereabouts)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] SpunkyIceke:
Energy.RHODIUM.23673.Sense2.5.Cookie.GTX.Aug.01

I like everything about this rom of the 1st of august! :)

Much faster than 31 of july !

So if you think about not flashing, do it anyways :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deeznuts:
Lol but i agree cus it is good! Just not too many people though im sure only want half the service/cell coverage then what they should be getting and paying for! In areas i get full bars on H network i get 2 bars on H network. In areas i normally get 3-4 bars on H network i now get 1 bar on H network. In areas i use to get 1-2 bars on H network i now get almost zero bars and/or dropped calls like no other in these areas. So yes, this is not a cosmetic issue and for some people depending on their region (or if u live in the middle of no where, lol), they might not be able to afford this kind of signal lose. I can living where i live because 1-2 bars of H is suffcient, its just double the area now i cant talk on the phone which sucks but im sure NRG will have this sorted soon. Hopefully
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] SpunkyIceke:
I didn't notice this up untill you said so :)

So i'm probably not even aware of the signal loss anyway ..

but I agree this is an issue ;)

Maybe nrg has another radio version?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deeznuts:
I really didnt notice it at first either til i thought to myself, why has it been 2 days straight now me all over the city and never see my signal go past 2 bars even in downtown areas? Doubt its a radio issue because ive tried different radios with no effect. Maybe a corrupt radio in the rom, but i would easily say 100% rom related. Maybe he just missed something cooking the roms too fast, who knows but him.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] buffalosolja42:
Thanks for the update guys I just thought it was cosmetic, oh well it is nice rom besides that only 1 reset with the 7/30 build and just flashed the 8/1 build and it seems to have more free space available at boot and runs pretty smooth.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
I'm starting to be a bit concerned about this as well. For sure, I thought it as cosmetic at first, but I am definitely getting more dropped calls since the 7/30 ROMS/1~2 bar display issue regardless of what radio I use. I used to never get dropped calls with any previous EnergyROMs.

I have full faith the Chef's working hard to fix this issue though. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deeznuts:
x2, NRG is the man! Maybe one of u twitter birds can tweet NRG about this issue in case he's not aware of it being much more then just cosmetic. I dont have twitter account or id do it myself.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
Please stop posting about the signal bars issue

NRGZ is aware of the issue and of the fact that some people are saying it is more than cosmetic.

The issue has already been posted here many and many times. No need to keep repeating it.

There is no cab yet to fix it. Changing radios does not fix it. Flashing an older ROM fixes it.

As soon as he figures out what went wrong, he will either provide a fix or make fixed ROMs available.

Until then, let's move on.

Thank you!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Thanks a bunch. There have been times in the past where we weren't completely sure if the chef was getting our feedback given how busy he is with tweaking his ROMs, so your update is very much appreciated!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FIT4C:
Amen to that!

Happily running 23673 Jul 24 Co0kie Dinik Glass with 4 solid bars. Do not know if I will flash anytime soon, this build has been nothing but awesome for me by performing like a champ.

Also looks like my HD2 will be here in a few weeks and I can't wait to experience NRG's ROMs on it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] raz1337:
Is the signal bars issue isolated to certain carriers?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
I don't think so. We're using a variety of carriers here, and I don't recall a single person saying they'd used one of the ROMs from Jul 30 onwards and *didn't* have the 2-bar problem. I'm sure NRG will sort it soon, but I hope he can manage to get his hands on a Rhodium to speed up that process.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] IronManDS:
What about these signal bars?!?! LOL

Sorry, couldn't resist :)

Now, here's something else to talk about: Is there a way to get the Start Bar completely transparent in the 8/2 6.5.x GTX release? I'm not a fan of the massive wing and would like to replace it. However, when I do, that damn piece of wing remains on the Start Bar.

All input, except rude ones :) , are welcome!

J
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] SpunkyIceke:
Lockscreen unreadable font

Hello,

I noticed when receiving an SMS or E-mail while the phone is still locked the font is white blury unreadable. Anyone knows how to change the font to Black or something?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] coppertop:
Is there any advantage in installing Standard or Reference and then installing CHT, as opposed to just installing the CHT version? Or does it make no difference at all?

I saw this mentioned earlier but for the life of me can't find it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mark72501:
Some have found/mentioned that installing the standard or reference 'flavors' and then adding CHT 1.7.x runs better than using NRG's CHT versions, as they have CHT 1.8.5.1 in them. The RAM utilization is a little better in the 1.7.x version of CHT than in the 1.8.5.1. I think that is probably what you've seen. I tried this previously and would agree that it did seem to run better, but you lose some of the handy features of 1.8.5.1. It might be a combination you'd want to try.

Others have used the standard or reference and just installed their programs without CHT; this has the same or even better affect of giving you more free RAM. But, again, you lose the CHT features.

-M
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
I have it on T-Mobile, US. But to be honest I didn't even notice it until I read about it here in the forum. I've had no problems with reception or data.

I'm on the 1 Aug version right now and it seems very stable and fast. No issues so far.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] diezoo:
I have this speed limit in all Energy ROMs, is something specific of the ROM and Couldn't found the solution, if I flash another ROM I get speed of 1.3MB.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chetbkool:
Which ROM are you using? I can see my notifications just fine.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] b3kturk:
Hey guys,

Could u guys please share that In Call Recording software that NRG uses in his roms? I did some search but could find it.

Thanks in advance.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Which version of the ROM are you running exactly ? And which lockscreen ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] SpunkyIceke:
I'm using the latest version of GTX theme

Energy.RHODIUM.23673.Sense2.5.Cookie.GTX.Aug.01

with the newest lockscreen skinned in GTX (not the android look a like version anymore)

Kind Regards
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] azwildcat98:
Extra 'dot' on Sense Calendar Tab

Not to be too picky here, but I noticed in the past few 21911 GTX Rhodium ROMs that in the Month view of the Sense Calendar tab, there is an extra 'dot' that appears on the current day (blue shaded box). Since the dot is not directly aligned with the other one in the same box, it looks a little off.

Just a slight cosmetic thing, but hey, the GTX Rom is all about aesthetics, isn't it? ;-)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmicha:
Signal Bar Issue Soon To be Solved

I am expecting NRG to announce at any time that the signal bar issue is simply related to how we are holding our phones.

Watch his Twitter feed closely, as he will soon be offering free phone cases to solve all of our signal issues, as well as all of the other ROM issues we are experiencing.

Regards,

Michael
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] raz1337:
Well, I'm having signal issues but I think it's just needing the proper radio.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vybzkartel:
No speed limit, see below.:p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Trickass:
I have the same issue. Think it's cooked in this way ...

Hope there will be some kind of fix for it ... :)

(GTX 23xxx Aug.01)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
How did you get such speed??? I have "H" and I am not getting more than 524 kbps!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
I think it's a mistake. No way can it be going that fast unless he's working in an internal lab that has some sort of future HSDPA technology that hasn't been released yet.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
NRGZ28

Fix for two bar issue on newest Rhodium ROMs > http://digs.by/d1tmMc 5 minutes ago via Digsby

Not sure what he means: if he will make it available, or if he will cook new ROMs with it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vybzkartel:
On the hunt.......

BTW the chkdsk fixed my cookie/sense freeze thanks all.:cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vybzkartel:
TMobile is that fast :)))

just benched >> :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Grouphome1:
is that kilobit or kilobyte?

I got a 120 mbit connection here

benched it couple weeks ago at 112 mbit
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] C0BRA01:
Aug 1st Cookie rom

My sig is not updated yet.

has anyone run into a problem where sliding out the keyboard no longer changes the screen to landscape? It happened right after I updated to the Aug 1st cookie ROM. (not GTX)

I can wipe it, and see if it is normal then I guess. Rather not as I just got done reinstalling everything. :confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] lufc:
That's mine on VIRGIN MOBILE UK
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] monomer888:
I followed the link. I had to laugh at what NRGZ said about none of us being brave enough to try it. :)

Well having flashed one of the Aug 1st ROMs, I'd have to say that the signal issue isn't only cosmetic, I lost signal completely at work which I've never done before. Anyway, on the Rhodium and Topaz (for the reason quoted below) it's simply not possible to just replace the file itself.

Multiple people have tried and it hasn't worked.

I have a feeling that there's no alternative: the fix has to be cooked into ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
So you're seriously saying you get approx 16MBit/sec on your phone ?! C'mon.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vybzkartel:
lol :D, I dont know why mobile speedtest benches like that, thats 1.6mbits the sig is 2.5mbits.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] technode:
While their new HSPA+ network is fast, the Touch Pro 2 only has a 7.2mbps HSDPA radio. There is no way you got those actual speeds on the built-in radio.

Mind trying speedtest.net?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] diezoo:
Try with this test and choose 1MB download and then tell me: http://text.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1&more=1
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vybzkartel:
Speedtest.net
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vybzkartel:
bbr Mobile speed test

1413 kbit/sec

0.598s latency

6.374s d/l time.again.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] technode:
That's more like it! Still very nice...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vybzkartel:
^^^^^^^ dont know why mspeedtest does it :cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] SpunkyIceke:
These speed benching thing, is this still part of the thread and aren't there other threads for this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deeznuts:
Yep. So i guess were still SOL til NRG has time to cook a new batch of roms for our device. Nice of him to address the issue and nicer yet if he attached the fix to his post. Probably didnt cus there isn't a fix u can do for it without cooking, lol! Looks like many scrambled to find the fix in that thread from NRG and everyones saying the new rilphone.dll needs to be cooked in period, not overwritten or cab installed. Again if it was that easy why didnt NRG attach the fix for us BRAVE enough to try it? Cus it doesnt exist maybe without cooking it in by the looks of it. Of all people u would think he would know that, oh well. Another day another dollar...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
I'm on T-Mobile in LA, and I just got 341.88

590 at 500 kb

664 on 1mb

The larger file sizes have higher numbers.

Also note that my TP2 is overclocked to 650 MHz, but I don't think that affects transfers.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] diezoo:
Ok, with Jackos ROM I get this speed, but with Energy ROM don´t, only at 500 kbit/sec max, I dot know why.:confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] monomer888:
Hey, easy on NRGZ there. He's a busy Chef, cooking multiple ROMs for multiple devices. He's even made you famous - check the second pic on the link below: ;)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7470164&postcount=20337
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] robseargeant:
I am not quite sure the 2 bar thing is that big of a deal. I have been on the new AT&T ROM for a week. There are definitely 2 bars more often, but my service and speed has not been affected at all. When I get closer to towers I also get 4 bars. I honestly think the scaling is just different, and some Y2K paranoia is going on making people see things that are not present.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] NRGZ28:
Amen to that brother!!! :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] monomer888:
It's possible. Personally I think in strong signal areas, it's not going to be a problem. I only ran into issues when in areas with patchy coverage, and lost signal altogether at one location.

The way WM reads signal strength is apparently reflected in a particular registry key. It's possible that you're right that it's a scaling issue, but it's probably also a true signal strength one too (considering what RILPHONE.DLL is actually responsible for).

On a normally functioning signal bar with this key 1 bar = 46% and 2 bars = 74% as reported by Windows Mobile. On the 2-bar restricted ROM that I was running, the maximum signal strength - recorded as 2 bars - was 54% as reported by WM.

OK that's all I'm going to say about signal strength. It's going to be fixed. Time to relax. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] momulah:
Y2K paranoia? What!? Speak for yourself. Your scaling must be different considering you are not even on one of NRGZ Roms and have the nerve to make the accusation everyone else having the issues are blindly mistaken or something. I for one wouldnt state something unless I had done the test needed to know it is not just cosmetic. After testing by flashing an earlier version and running test I definately say it is not cosmetic. This issue should be done with already anyway. They are aware and just wait for the next update of Roms.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vybzkartel:
That doesn't make sense, even if the scaling was different, when im at work the max is still two bars and I'm near the tower. I don't think it affects performance because my speed and call quality is in tact, so when do I get to 4 bars? What I think you meant is its not scaled "properly":rolleyes: I reckon its the dll issue and will be fixed by the chef in upcoming builds.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
heh. probably just a ploy by AT&T to make their iPhoners to feel better.. :rolleyes: See - u iDiots are seeing more signal thanthe others.. :) Couldnt resist..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
You're not talking about the same issue as we are here, though, unless I'm misunderstanding you. With the latest NRG ROMs (which you don't seem to be running), we only ever get a max of 2 bars, we never see 4.

Anyway, we know NRG's working on it, so we look forward to a solution :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] robseargeant:
I am not trying to incite a riot. The file in question is from the AT&T ROM. Others in this thread have also said while they see two bars it appears to be cosmetic. Everyone has their own problems, and history shows every flash can be different.

Gosh Dang ROM Addicts are like Rabid Animals!

*EDIT* I did just laugh reading my post and realizing how Steve Jobs it sounds. It is honestly my experience with the file though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Yeah, I think some folks are just a bit frustrated. But, the bottom line is that we don't ever see more than 2 bars regardless of where we're at, and there is definitely a difference in signal performance as I now get dropped calls whereas I never used to.

Not a big deal for me personally as I flashed back to 7/24 CHT and back at full functionality.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] I burn water:
speeds

I think the speeds on mobilespeedtest are also dependent on what browser you use. See below pics. Where every other browser is around 400-600k not 2.5MB

The test was done with one bar in a place I know has bad reception.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] zeoran:
If I use MyPhone to sync my txt's (I have before) and then I delete them from my phone, won't they just delete from MyPhone the next time I sync and not be available to view???
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vybzkartel:
its ok to be faster than ATT :)

IE explorer (last post flooding the thread with speed)

Only 2 bars :):)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
Most reliable restore of PIM

Well, I finally got around to trying MyPhone. The backup and restore worked fine, but when I synced with my desktop, all my appointments and contacts were duplicated. This is what happened when I used PIM backup as well.

So I think from now on I will simply sync my phone with the PC after each ROM flash. Then everything is restored and not duplicated, except for the ringtones. But it is easier to put in ringtones manually than it is to delete all those duplicates in Outlook.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] C0BRA01:
keyboard

few things I found out when I wiped, and reloaded the Aug 1st ROM;

The signal strength bars are not affected by the Carrier provisioning like some thought. It was 2 bars, both before, and after updating that.

After my last post, I also found out that my power on, and off button at the top was acting flaky too. I would have to hit it several times to turn on the phone. the button would not turn it off at all.

the 2nd time around, I removed the keys reg file, and all Cookie reg files from the XDA_UC/Exporter folder on my SD card. Then I imported everything else using the cookie importer, and NRGZ28's Settings Exporter program. I finished installing everything else without a hitch. Between the two it took care of all the settings other than the lock screen background, and what tabs I made available. Easy to fix.

This brings me to a request NRG. Can you modify your program so you can select what to import like you can select what to export? Of course another option would be not to back up the cookie Monster settings using that tool, since there is a similar one built into Cookie Monster itself.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] C0BRA01:
PIM backup

I use it primarily for backing up my call logs, and text messages. It's great for that. There is a lot more to have to restore than just ringtones, but NRG's Settings exporter takes care of most all that. (Ring tones, owner info, power settings etc...)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
You can easily select what you want to restore (import) by moving things in and out of the XDA_UC folder. You may want to create a folder with all your exported settings, and then copy from it to the XDA_UC folder just the one you want to import.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sovereignty:
Ok, I have had problems again with the July 24th and Aug 1st 23673 CHT ROMs not waking up properly when I receive a phone call while the phone is in standby. It seems the screen is not refreshing properly. At first glance it appears that the phone has woke up, but is still in the lock screen. But, further pressing in areas where the answer slider and contact photo should be reveals those two objects. Although I still can not see who is calling. The rest of the screen is still bits and pieces of the lock screen. I can answer the call by sliding the answer slider, but the screen still "appears" to be locked (although it really isn't).

I have CHT set to auto lock when in standby 'cause I want it to lock when I press the power button, although I also see the bug when this is

not

enabled in CHT.

The only ROM in the past month that has worked seems to be July 17th which was supposed to fix the bug from July 16th.

Anybody having the same problem still? Is it a known problem again in the last two ROMs I have flashed? I didn't see it in the past 5 or 6 pages of the thread. I have reflashed July 17th again to see if it goes away again. It's like the bug showed up again when the new unlock slider was cooked in.

This phone is an AT&T Tilt 2

TIA!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deeznuts:
Lol, thanks for the laugh bro. Never noticed since i never run the gtx series but im not famous. The few things i am famous for in life have nothing to do with this board but thank you. As i've originally stated, yes this signal thing is an issue but personally for me an issue i can live with until a new release/patch/fix comes out since where i live i can easily still get coverage. I was more speaking for the masses on here, not all his users live in or near metropolitan areas and have butt loads of cell towers. But for them im sure i would just flash back to a previous rom. I like the new rom and haven't had any problems with the new core or any bugs with it and just as i said before, i think this new sense does feel a bit faster then previous versions. Sorry if i cam off harsh but it wasn't intended that way at all. I have mad respect for NRG and what he does for us and the community here bro.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chetbkool:
Have you tried the windows lock configuration? I use it and it works fine for me. Start, Settings, System, Lock Config, and check enabled. Wakes up for a call everytime. CHT 1.8 lock is still not advised on our device.