yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] I burn water:
You can go back about 6 pages to this post it explains how to replace the start menu with quick menu. There may be more but it should be a good starting point.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] buffalosolja42:
already answered by post above :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
I am actually thinking about trying this.

Get rid of all accounts, except exchagne.

See if my available memory drains.

It is possible that there is a leak on retrievals that retrieve nothing, or on retrievals that retreive mail (maybe the size of the email matters).

Anyone know of any way to really analyze the memory on the device, short of Jtaging it? I'm not ready to solder anything on my phone (yet).

When it says i have 45 MB available out of 185 MB, but the memory used by processes add up to 60 MB, it doesn't make sense to me. I should have 125 MB Available. All allocated memory must belong to a process. So, either some processes are not shown, or memory usage is not being correctly reported. I would like some way to dump all memory and go through it with a tool to see all bytes deemed unavailable. Then see what process owns it.

Looking at Remote Heap Walker now. - Pretty worthless

Remote Process Viewer is much better.

Apparently Tools\Task Manager and ArkSwitch do not show memory allocated oy consumed by DLLs that are used by applications.

So, manila.exe may not take up much memory by itself, but it has several dlls that it uses:

YouTubeProxy.dll - 200704

contacts.dll - 2531328

syncmgr.dll - 1019904

mode9.dll - 3022848

outres.192.dll - 1290240

gwes.exe - 1269760

several others

The confusing process is NK.exe which used hd.dll, with a Base Size of -134103040

If that were a positive value, it is pretty close to the difference of reported available and 185 MB minus the amount task Manager reports in use.

Dlls are shared by muliple apps, so that is probably why neither reports the memory in use by them.

Also seemed strange that NK.exe base address is C2000000, when all other processes start with 0, 1, or 2

C is 12
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jumper1984:
sorry guys but wher can i find the newest version of this rom.

and is it also in german lang. ?

thx for reply
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jedah:
Google sunglobe.cab to read Chinese. There are others out there (like yahei), but that's the one I use. Then, you need to restore the fonts back to tahoma. Do a search on the first page for "tahoma", and there should be a link to a cab to restore back to tahoma.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ozwak:
Hi guys,

I am sort of new to the rom dev part but i work with software as my daily job. Since i am well aware of the dev cycles and really appreciate and actually amazed from the work some contribute here form there free time.

My question is do you think we should setup a bugzilla server in which we will do error reporting and main stream the bugs we find. Developers can than pick action items and suggest solutions or create one. This way we wont have double entries and solutions will be visible to all.

I have a server i believe i can setup the service but i still need to give it a check, setting up bugzilla is very time consuming so i wanted to pick it up with you first.

I do apologies if this has been raised in the forum before, i have searched for such but didnt find so i truly hope its the first time its been raised.

P.S

Mods if this needs to be setup as a pool or in other way by forum rules i apologies, and please inform so i can set it accordingly.

cheers
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jcrompton:
THANKS - I'll give it a try!

EDITED :: This worked GREAT - GPS Fix is now ALWAYS less than 5 sec !!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jrmccracken:
Thanks for the link

the keyboard was driving me crazy. I was about to go back to ATTs crappy ROM. Has anyone noticed the conflict with SPB Mobile shell and the latest NRg ROM? the Windows button is hidden and the context button in the apps is hidden.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rmkali:
Thanx, for the changescreen cab!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Gman25:
spl .85 pls help

yes, i know this is not the spl tread

but, i have a big problem i just got a new rhodium(by tmobile- i got a replacement i try to spl unlock but i get this message saying that is not for commercial use )yes i did pm oli but i want to see if you guys can help:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] lufc:
The great chef is updateing with Sense 2.5.. 21884 and 28011. later today

Now theres good news :):)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] osrix:
Can you tell me if HTC album video player is working in the new 21884 version?

cheers
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ekerbuddyeker:
if you click on his download file button, sometimes NRG has already posted a newer version without changing the header of this thread! i downloaded his '11' version a day ago.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bknewtype:
mms recieve problem

so i noticed mms is not working with the messaging client on 2.5. i followed the step to disable 2.5 and it works thru outlook client. is there a way to make the messages back to threaded? the threaded option is enabled.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] venomshot629:
CHANGELOG for 21884 and 28011....... Anyone? Please??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] laafiera:
Make a small donation to Olinex and you'll be good to go!!!:):)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] systematicdecline:
Ok i cant find the answer. But im having SMS and MMS issues. When i click on the SMS to type in a message. it takes forever. sometimes i have to open my keyboard, shut it, open it, shut it, then it works.. real pain in my ars...

also i used the MMS fix 2.1 cab and it didnt work.

Please can someone help me on this so i can use this rom. Or is this just a major bug, or just a problem im having?

edit:

Att Tilt 2

December 7th edition although thread said 4th

Leo energy rom

rest of info in sig.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] PRTEQ:
NRG the Rom you said earlier your going to upload today is de 21xxx with the max manila integrated?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rmkali:
MMS Fix 4 Leo 20811?

What did you do to finally get it to work? I got it loaded and all the way to through the settings page (i made no changes there, as it appeared the settings were already set for ATT/Cingular). Still MMS messages don't send.

Thoughts?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] frankd14321:
Any advice on getting the weather to sync up to my location? I have a touch pro2 from tmobile.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] getnbzy:
Problem with mms using 28008

I flashed 28008 and then installed valkyrie's 2.5 mms fix for tmobile but still can't send or receive mms. Is there a new cab out for this particular rom. Or any other ideas?? Thanks in advance.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] 30Glock:
2 more setings u need to tweek, use the search button, its really easy.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] 30Glock:
12/4 21877 task manager opens but quickly goes to notification, anyone having this??, cant keep tack manager on.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] derylmccarty:
#4006

Today, 08:20 AM

contact.ace

Junior Member

Join Date: Apr 2006

Posts: 19

Nice N Stable

Hi,

I am using the latest 28011 standard build. Very impressive work.

The only thing that I noticed is I cannot get the FM Radio to start, even after connecting the headset.

Error Message popups up "Unexpected error!"

Anyone else seen this?

Thanks.

Just tried my FM and it worked just fine....didn't say I liked all the music, but it worked just fine. All 20 presets populated and played. Hard Reset? Corrupted download? Try 21884 later this PM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] thedudelasse:
Is there a way to disable the homescreen weather animations?... It really seems to slow down the device.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bipinsen:
I would absolutely love to know why my phone is now sitting at 22MB! I mean come on. Tallying up the memory usage for the processes gives about 80MB. So just like you, where is the missing 80MB?

I've seen the posts up earlier on getting rid of the Start Menu saving memory. It would be awesome if I didn't have to do that. But then again, when installing custom ROMs, I should expect to do some additional custom changes to gain optimization! ;)

But I can always wish for perfection without doing much... :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
I chatted with NRGZ via Twitter a few days ago about that. He said that the main difference are the Rhodium drivers which end up using much more memory than the other devices.

Here is a copy of the dialog:

NRGZ: It baffles me that the CDMA HTC Diamond has almost 100 megs of free RAM with Cookie 2.5, while the Rhodium is half that !

Me: can you compare the files loaded in the Diamond's ROM and the files in the Rhodium ROM to find out the difference?

NRGZ: the diamond has less(smaller) drivers I'm sure... because other than that the ROMs are identical.

So, if that is the case, there is little NRGZ or anyone (besides HTC) could do, as it would required rewriting the drivers used by the phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
Are you serious?

Newest version is (and has always been) accessible through links on the first page.

German ROMs: This has already been answered several times. There is no EnergyROM for the Rhodium in German.

I suggest you read a few previous posts and use the search tool, before asking.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] buffalosolja42:
@mmalka yeah I saw that, I was thinking it was a radio issue (drivers could be as well) I think that the accomadation for some many radios on Gsm maybe I should look to just using egde or something I wish I know my appopriate bands I use in my location (will look it up later) and try to set it to those and see if that helps (I know it sounds weird but little things like that may help). There maybe a different driver subset for every radio or group of radios? Ju
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
I doubt he was referring to the Radio drivers, as radios are flashed separately. I believe he was talking about the video drivers.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] J-Hop2o6:
radio/2G/3G has no effect on your available RAM/memory
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigWopHH:
It is unlikely that the video drivers alone would account for such a large difference in free RAM. It's more likely a combination of things, that could potentially be tweaked somewhat.

I'm an expert on this kind of stuff on the PC side, but don't know enough about WinMo to help diagnose this.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
Same here. That is why I trust NRGZ's judgment. ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hsidorsky:
Location of Contact & Calendar files on phone.

In the process of burning the latest Energy ROMs, I have wound up in Contact hell. I have managed to double, triple, etc my contact dbms. I would like to delete the contact/calendar dmbs'. Where are these files located on the device and what are they called?

Any help would be appreciated.

Howard

.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bejek:
SMS delivery and weather updates

Hi again,

First of all thank you for this amazing ROM, you guys rock! My problem - I was ignored for the first time so I am gonna try it again. I am really sorry if you have already solve this problems, but I searched through this thread and did not find the solution.

1) How to enable SMS delivery notifications for all new SMS messages? I went carefully through the settings and did not find it there...

2) I want my weather (and maybe Facebook) to be downloaded (updated) every time I sync with PC or I connect it to some Wi-Fi. Is there any possibility to set this? I have pre-paid internet connection, but I have it free just when I use web browser (just the port for http), so applications as e-mail client, weather, facebook, google maps, etc cost me a lot :( :( :(

Thank you guys very much for any answer/advice.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
It isn't necessarily the video drivers. Some of the processes in do not show all of the memory used by them because there may be more than one process using the DLL associated with it. In that case neither of them report the memory used. This is where the "missing" 80MB or so of RAM are tied up. mmalka is right in that the drivers used between the two devices (TP2 and Diamond) are significantly different in size. I've only made one ROM for my brother's Diamond, but comparing the two using pretty much the same ROM was kind of strange to see the memory differences.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wmg316:
How often do you move over to the "Photos and Videos" tab?

I've been testing using WM e-mail vs. Sense tab e-mail; WM SMS vs. Sense tab SMS; WM Album (Start, Multimedia, Album) vs. Sense tab Photos & Videos.

Observations I've made (as has been said many times) is that Sense apps uses much more memory...AND...moving out of the Sense apps does NOT recover memory like it does using the WM apps.

For example...I can go to the Photos and Vidoes tab...thumb through a few pics...select a pic to go into Album...thumb through a few pics...and go back to Home tab. The memory use varies between 8-10 MB...and settles back out to 6-8 MB LOST.

I can use WM Album...scroll through the thumbnails...pick a pic to pull up Album...thumb through a few pics...back to Home tab....1-2MB memory lost once back to Home tab...settles out to 0-1MB lost

I used this example because I tried it many times and concluded to kill the Photos and Videos tab!!! IMO, that is the biggest memory drainer. I set up a quick-link on CHT to pull up Album!

Using the other Sense tabs also use the memory and they don't recover what they used...but none that I have observed as much as the Photos and Videos tab.

And as many have said before, Sense is a memory killer on our devices!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wmg316:
Try using NRGZ28's ROM's [subliminal message here: tell us what ROM your using]. NRGZ28's ROM's on my Tilt 2 [subliminal message here: tell us what device your using] don't have an SMS notification problem.

And you might want to let us know what ROM, version, device your using for more help on your problems.... ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] piaqt:
(Sigh) Yeah. Either PC's are just plain less weird, or after 15 years, I'm used to it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
I remember someone mentioning here a long time ago a program to remove duplicates. If you search and don't find here, may be you can find some on the internet, as it is quite a common problem.

SMS delivery notification was also posted here a while ago. Take a look at posts 27541 and 27542.

I don't think there is an automated way to selectively update weather and/or Facebook only while in wi-fi. What I would do is simply disable data connection via the carrier and then it will update only when using wi-fi.

I agree. I posted here a while ago several tests I performed moving within Sense's tabs and recording the RAM usage. It is clear that Sense not always recovers the memory used, specially with the Photos & Videos and (if my memory isn't failing me) also with the Music tab.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xelper:
i've tried all the ROM's and noticed that in each of them menu slides not smooth, with some kind of leap. it's really frustrating to see the icons jumping, not sliding as in original ROM. how to solve this problem? anyone?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] minicoop7:
Been running the dinik glass 24634 9/8 version since Saturday and also experiencing lag, programs closing and freezing. I reset anywhere bet 2-5 times a day. If I just do a soft reset, sometimes only 4 of my fav contacts appear. Then I have to turn off, remove the battery, wait about a minute and power back on to get all fav contacts back. Memory drops down to the 30's after using Opera, Cingular Video, Browsing, etc. I run cleanram level 1 and it takes me back to 42-46.

But I'm patient and will keep running this hoping that it will speed up a bit as the days go by.

My question is, where can I verify my current pagepool? Is this something I can change to 14 (like wmg316's since we're both with ATT and I followed his setup) or is that something I should have done prior to flashing?

TIA and thanks too for this awesome ROM:):)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
It's been posted several times before, but if you're looking to save RAM, the easiest way is to replace your start menu. NRG had had the pagepool around 18 lately, so changing to 14 isn't going to be much of a difference. Do a search for pagepool changer to find the program. Changing the pagepool must be done before you flash the ROM.

EDIT: Several people have reported lag on the DinikGlass versions this round. My advise would be to go back to the 04 Sept version or wait a bit for NRG to release his next wave, which shouldn't be much longer.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
New ROMs!!!

From Twitter a few minutes ago. Get ready everyone!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Energy Cookie 21916/23138 and Energy Standard 21916/23138 are up so far.

I'll stop spamming the thread now. lol :cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vinceweis:
The program I remember was TrineFix.cab. I think it removes all duplicates. View attachment 400805
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dzotx:
Thanks... downloading Energy.RHODIUM.21916.Sense2.5.Sep.13.7z now... wondering what changes were made this time. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Multilanguage ROMs are here!!!

Sorry, I've been monitoring Twitter for news on the latest set of ROMs. It seems this batch is bringing German and French languages to our precious Touch Pro2s.

EDIT: Cookie, Dinik, GTX, and Standard are up now. 21916/23138

EDIT: Reference is now up also. That just leaves Titanium, MaxSense, and Sense 2.1. Perhaps also German and French versions! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vinceweis:
This is all starting to sound like if I remove the Recent Documents, Facebook, Twitter, Weather, Mail, Internet, Photos, Contacts, and Calendar Tabs, my device will work just fine. :eek::D (just kidding)

I use almost all of them, and while I have occasional memory problems and would like more memory available, most things work all of the time. I switch some off from time to time to test memory problems and cannot report specific memory usages, but the device keeps operating in almost all conditions. Recent memory recovery has been pretty good for the most part. I have four cookie quick link screens fully loaded, about 40 additional programs and games, loaded Sd card with XDAndroid, 1400 contacts, 5 email accounts including work exchange account with last one month sync'd, all attachments downloaded, six months of calendar appointments, etc. ...

Yeah, I would like more memory and I follow all of the suggestions posted posted here with great interest. Thank you for your actual testing and reports here. I use them all to keep my loaded phone operating.

Particular thanks go out to mmalka, JVH3, BigBadger, wmg316, buffalosolja42, BigWhopHH, cajunflavoredbob, momomer888, and the many others that regularly contribute here. And of course, NRGZ28 for making me proud to own my phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
There are a ton of memory saving tips and tricks out for our device.

Even though it is slower and may be a hassle, you could get rid of the other tabs and create quicklinks to the standard WM programs. I stopped using the Recent Documents tab when it started giving us problems a while back. It's a useful tab, though and doesn't really have a similar replacement outside of the file explorer. Creating quicklinks to programs like Windows Facebook app, MoTweets, WeatherBug, Opera, WM Inbox, WM Contacts, WM Calendar, and WM Album will surely save you the space you crave. :cool:

You certainly have a lot going on. I thought my work was demanding with my 270 contacts! :eek: I believe JVH3 did a test a while back that showed that syncing less e-mails has a positive affect on memory. Also check your startup programs to make certain that you don't have a lot running on boot.

Ditch the Photo and Music tabs. They are both memory hogs. ;) There is a music player that you can add to CHT anyway. A quicklink to the standard Album is a better choice. Sense refuses to give up the cache on either of these tabs unless you restart it. :(

My favorite RAM-saver is the start menu replacement. colossus_r makes a very nice all-in-one Start Menu replacement for Quick Menu. I'm kind of sad not to have NRG's beautiful start menu, but the RAM savings are unbelievable. :D

Outside of that it's kind of a trial and error to see what works for each user. I think there's a thread in here dedicated to memory savings in the Energy ROMs. I haven't poked around in it in a while, but I'm sure it's still there.

Thanks for the ups, but I doubt I've done anything really worthwhile just yet. :) I'm trying to contribute as much, if not more than, what I received from the folks here at XDA. This is one of the most organized and well-respected communities on the web for mobile devices. It's all thanks to the knowledge and helpfulness of its contributing members that this site remains on top. Always try to give back at least as much as what you got out of it. ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] drewmaloy:
was tired of the stock 6.5 rom. so i made my way over here. fast and smoother then what i expected. sense 2.5 FTW! thank you. peace
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] abprie:
question is, will it be up today??? :o
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
I'm sure they'll be up later on. Our chef needs rest too. ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] abprie:
sure, i would never try to force them not to sleep (this might cause some bugs ;) ). but i'm still eager to see the latest version.......
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Cybervenom:
Hi,

Just wanna say thanks to our chef NRG for awesome roms, just dowloaded and installed this rom: Energy.RHODIUM.23138.Sense2.5.Cookie.DinikGlass.Sep.13 , after setting the lockscreen wallpaper it doesnt change from the default (no wallpaper) even after restarting the device....anyone have any ideas ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wmg316:
The 9/8 Dinik version has been mentioned in a few posts here as being much more laggy than previous versions...that would be one factor.

I DO NOT recommend going to a page pool of 14 UNLESS you are overclocking, otherwise, in my experience, you will have a very "jerky" ROM. IMO, a page pool of 14 is too low unless your overclocking. Now with

OCT

, a page pool of 14 runs (to me) the same as the out-of-the-box ROM set at 18.

To check your page pool, you have to use a page pool changer (you can find that

here

). I use "PagePool_Changer_v2.21". You have to check the ROM's "RHODIUM.nbh" file with this tool to see what the page pool is set at...as far as I know, there is no other way?? You have to change the page pool on the .nbh file before you flash.