yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GT247:
Perhaps before insisting the kitchen be released, post what updates you'd like to see made to it. The rom performs wonderfully, and when NRGZ moved on he pretty much had it dead-on perfect and I figure he was just toying with small settings at the end. So really, what updates would people like to see?

Furthermore, personally speaking, I hope he never releases the kitchen.. it's my opinion that if someone wants to cook a rom, they can cook one and start a thread....who wants to go to an NRGZ rom thread and find a rom that went from perfect to garbage because he released the kitchen just because someone thought the thread was dead and someone else screwed it up? NRGZ not only put a lot of time and work into the rom, but he also attached his name to it. When I go to an NRG rom thread, that's what I want to find...an NRG rom, made by NRGZ28

Who cares if this thread becomes dead? What's important is that when someone comes to it, the roms NRGZ made are here.

The users of this rom are still getting support for it by other members here, and in some cases, it's probably better the support being given is given by the members offering it. They include a lot more information and options and tutorials than I believe NRGZ would, not because NRGZ doesn't have the knowledge, but he's cooking for 984567549648675469548647 other devices and I think he doesn't really have the time to spare others might....and that isn't to say the ones offering support do it because they have time to spare, I feel they do it out of a dedication of brotherhood and dedication towards givingness, meaning they don't have "spare time" to waste, but rather, they sacrifice the time they have to do other things to help others....much like NRGZ does....so please, let's not consider ourselves entitled

JVH3 used to post the changes NRGZ made to the roms and he figured them out on his own...now he's advised on how to go about doing that and how to make your own changes to your own device/s...if people can't figure out how to do that, what good is releasing the kitchen?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] curiousrom:
XDA Search: Kitchen Release

XDA Search: Kitchen Release http://www.google.com/cse?q=kitchen...ub-2900107662879704:fs7umqefhnf&ie=ISO-8859-1

Thanks for the tips JVH3 but why rebuilt the kitchen from scratch when there is a working one lying there unused and unshared?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Because it isn't mandatory for ANY chef to release their kitchen. If they choose to do so, then great, but otherwise simply be appreciative of the time and effort put into keeping your device alive for this long. No user is entitled to anything. These chefs do this in their spare time out of love for the community. If they choose not to release their kitchen, then respect that decision.

On a side note, the kitchen that I used to build my own ROMs was customized for me by another member here under the condition that I never share it publicly. So, no matter how I feel about it, that was the term I agreed to when I received it. It is possible that NRGZ28 is bound by the same terms. Even if he isn't, it is his own decision that he keeps it to himself.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GT247:
This rom isnt lying around unused.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] curiousrom:
Marketplace Works

"Microsoft Marketplace is closed..." -jvh3

Marketplace works, i just downloaded 2 aps to my tp2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
Interesting. I thought they had shut it down.

My Tilt 2 was replaced by insurance at the end of August with Windows Phone 7. Since then work forced me into an iPhone 4S.

Been a while since I've played with Windows Mobile.

In any case, there will be no updates to core components.

( OS and HTC updates ).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
You are still able to download applications from the Windows Mobile Marketplace. They are no longer accepting new applications into it, however.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hefman:
Moving on...

Gentlemen,

I thought I would poke my head in and let everyone know that I have joined the masses who have moved on to an Android phone. My TP2 was getting long in the tooth and I found an almost brand new Inspire for very cheap, so I picked it up. I realize it's not cutting edge, but it's a big jump in technology from the TP2 and it allows me to not have a contract.

Good luck with continuing support for the TP2 and WM. You guys are fighting the good fight. I'll poke my head in from time to time to see how things are going. If anyone has a need for an old banged up TP2, please PM me and make me an offer. I haven't been able to check on here every day, but I will get back to you when I can.

Right now, I just need to find the right custom ROM for my Inspire (DHD)...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wmg316:
I too got the Inspire...it is an old phone...but it probably just as good (or better IMO) than some of the Vivids and Sensations out there!! ;)

NRGZ28 has an Inspire ROM here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1364604

And of course there is the ARHD ROM here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=840040
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
Thanks Button

Just wanted to mention that XDA changed the policy on the thank button, so post #1 for the ROM can be thanked.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Chr0nicDreamz:
This is the ONLY ROM ever flashed onto my tp2. I used it all the up until I sold my phone. I miss this ROM. Had the tp2 had a capacitive screen instead of resistive I'd still be using it today.

HTC = Hate The Consumer
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Really? I prefer resistive screens to capacitive. Accuracy is more important to me than playing games...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] monomer888:
In terms of screen tech, the Samsung Galaxy Note could be the best of both worlds. It has a capacitive screen for fingers and a touch-sensitive digitizer for the stylus. Sadly you can't use your fingernail on it...

I have to say that I still have my Rhodium and use it as my secondary phone. I'm still a big fan of the Rhodium's hardware keyboard, and combined with NRG's ROM optimisations, I still find the phone impressive. It's a bit of a gimmick, but the european Rhodium can even do 3G native video calling with its front-facing camera, a feat that Android phones are only just catching up with. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Yep. I just finished reviewing that one. That is such a big device. The 4.3" display on my HD2 is as big as I can handle. Lol

Also, the Lenovo Thinkpad Tablets use active digitizers that perform in the same manner as the Note. They all use a stylus input as well as touch. I'm waiting a bit until the price drops before I grab one of those.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Chr0nicDreamz:
What's funny is the us att version originally called for an ffc but it got axed last minute from what I heard. I may have to buy another one just to have. I miss it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
And for those who travel from the States to Europe, don't forget that the HSDPA/3G of the TMobile version of HTC ToucPro 2 will work in both continents. The TMobile version has two 2100 channels, BandI and BandIV.

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
It certainly is a handy feature. Especially with MWC coming up soon. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
I'm perfectly content with the TP2. Obviously, I wish it wasn't so laggy, but this custom ROM remains remarkable, SoftMaker Office Suite runs without fail, and though I never got the built-in wifi router to work properly, wmwifirouter ( http://wmwifirouter.com/ ) works a charm, and with wmwifirouter, I can get all my handhelds and netbooks on-line, even the Linux devices.

PhatNotes, now only $9.95, is a great database program and synchs well with ActiveSync 4.5 (and 4.5 is much more robust than I would've figured).

Unless some Android phone comes up with a true physical keyboard, I don't see myself updating for a while.

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Sprint has the Samsung Galaxy S Pro (Epic 4G), which has a five row keyboard. Unfortunately, they are the only one to ever carry this device, it seems. It appears as though no one ever even sold an unlocked version. That is a pity, since the keyboard on it rivals the Rhodium. There is also the HTC 7 Pro that can be had if you like WP7. Again, Sprint is the only US carrier to pick it up, so no 3G with any US GSM carrier. Finally, Motorola is about to get in the game with the Droid 4. It will have a full five row keyboard also. It looks like it will be a “squished-together” keyboard in the style of the previous Droid devices, but at least it will be five rows this time.

That SGS Pro had such a nice keyboard when my coworker picked it up last week. I searched all over to find a GSM version, but to no avail. That device would have made me switch from WM and HTC. I want a full, five row, qwerty keyboard, damnit!

-- Sent from my TouchPad using Communities
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
CFB,

Many thanks for the keyboard update--I hadn't known about any of those phones. Yes, a non-GSM phone is a non-starter. But I'm glad to hear that a Droid 4 may try to fit the bill.

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
In continuing the off topic posts here, I've posted an image of each of their keyboards.

EDIT: The Droid 4 does not have a smaller keyboard. The keys are just bigger than the other two devices, which gives it the illusion of being a cramped keyboard. It is still a bit difficult to get used to typing without having spaces between the letters, but it isn't bad. By contrast, coming from the Rhodium keyboard, anyone could pick up typing easily on either the Galaxy S Pro or the 7 Pro.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
CFB,

Nice job with the pix--can even be enlarged! I really like the tilt aspect of the HTC 7 Pro. I wonder if manufacturers will ever pursue that again.

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BillBunyip:
Is this what you're looking for: http://www.techrific.com.au/samsung...html?osCsid=e7bc51f76ab6bcc370416ec93cb677a8?

Phone Status: Unlocked

2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100

Edit: Sorry, not the Pro so no keyboard, having a blond day. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] monomer888:
Windows Mobile 6.x Marketplace to be discontinued

In the vein of the last few posts, this is a bit off-topic but is relevant for those of us who might still be using the WM 6.x Marketplace, which is due to close on 9th May:

http://www.wpcentral.com/windows-mobile-6x-marketplace-be-discontinued-may-9

R.I.P. Windows Mobile Marketplace
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jerryhou85:
THX. I never download any software from WM market...:p

Actually only a few apps I used on TP2 and I think they were enough for my daily use.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
I got the e-mail about this earlier today. I'm glad I backed up my cabs already.

For anyone who didn't already know this, Here's how you back up your downloaded apps to make into cabs:

You're going to need Total Commander for this since it's easy to work with.

1. Uninstall your Marketplace downloaded apps.

2. Open Total Commander and navigate to \Application Data\Volatile\

3. Open the Market, and go to the first app you want.

*****BE VERY QUICK ABOUT THIS NEXT PART*****

The amount of time you have is dependent on the size of the application.

4. Hit the install button, then quickly switch back to Total Commander.

5. There should now be a file in there called "setup.xml" (it might be setup.txt - I can't remember). Copy that file to your SD card. Just put it anywhere you'll remember. This file disappears from the "\Volatile\" directory as soon as the installation is complete.

6. This file contains all the setup info for the application. It will tell you all the files installed, and where each registry value is placed.

7. Find the files, and make yourself a cab.

I wrote this out from memory. Hopefully it's all correct. Sorry if I'm off by a bit. Thankfully, I saw the death of WM coming ahead of time and never bothered to purchase anything from there.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mnvoh:
hi

thanks for the rom. it's great man. well, the thing is I want the Dinik original wallpaper, since I've downloaded Sencity, it doesn't have it. So could you upload it? Cause that'd be gr8.

Thanks

PS. I've search all over the net, and here too, but no luck in finding it.

PSS. Holy .... I found it, the rom has it. :D. Thanks again for the perfect ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Galaen:
Wow!

It has been a while since I have visited this thread. As soon as I began reading, a small lump formed in my throat.... okay, I am being dramatic, but you get the idea. Oh how I miss this community. This device and rom served (and to an extent still serves) me well. To any new users to this device/rom: it doesn't get much better than this. Heed the posts of the people on this thread, for their knowledge is gold, and they will steer you in the right direction. For the two years I stalked this thread, I rarely posted because I didn't have to. If I had an issue, the people on here already had it figured out. Honestly, the whole time I never even flashed another rom. I'm quite sure the others are fantastic, and nothing against them, but I just never felt that I had to try another. Everything I wanted was right here.

Sorry for the wall of text, but a two line quick post could not express the joy of this rom. So, thanks for the memories, and enjoy!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jerryhou85:
The chef will be more than happy to see your post. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rootingdestroyer:
i remember flashing rom over a year ago now :) when i was just searchiing the thread without joining up to xda. what a good job the chef did with this one its been running for ages on my tp2. had so many glitches and its an absolute pain in the ass but i loved it :')
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tim051:
Hi Folks,

Noob here... couldn't find a 'search' button, so figured I'd go ahead and ask.

Just got my 1st energy ROM put into my TP2... trying to extend the life of my TP2 until I can get a new phone.

Anyhow - I used the 'LOCK' function on the original HTC ROM extensively - if I lost it, I didn't want anyone to get to the contents. With the Energy ROM, I see a 'lock' function, but it's more like an Iphone kind of lock - no real security.

Did I miss something?

Thanks,

Tim
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tim051:
Hi - the search is back up, and I have found the answer!

Now if I can just get the GPS to work!

Thanks,

Tim
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] weresgyufa:
May i have a working link to download the Energy.RHODIUM.21916.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Jul.04.7z file, because the original link is Slow and i try it to download it 10 times but its ends befor the download finised... what is the problem? This Mirror site is slow? or what?

Help please.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jerryhou85:
From the link by the chef, there are only following four files for ENG version.

Energy.RHODIUM.21916.Sense2.5.Jul.04.7z

Energy.RHODIUM.21916.Sense2.5.Reference.Jul.05.7z

Energy.RHODIUM.29022.Sense2.5.Jul.04.7z

Energy.RHODIUM.29022.Sense2.5.Reference.Jul.05.7z

Where did you get the "Cookie 2.0" link?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Here you go. Took 11 tries to get it to download without interrupting. That's a pretty crappy file hosting site. Please post when you have it downloaded, as I'm hosting it in my Dropbox for you.

Energy.RHODIUM.21916.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Jul.04.7z

---------- Post added at 08:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:07 PM ----------

All the Cookie ROMs in each language are linked in the second post.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lyian:
Does this rom leak memory or something? It seems like the older my phone gets, the more like **** it runs. Everything seems to break or be hella laggy. I dont get it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Hakim Rahman:
I do not think so! to take less memory and increase performance, you can change the page pool...

it has been applied in my Rhodium running with 2 operating system Energy rom and Android GBX0C ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
Rhodiums do not have alot of memory and Sense 2.5 uses alot. Also, Sense 2.5 continues to cache data for each tab as it is loaded. Technically, this is not a memory leak, since the memory is still accessed and used by Sense when a tab is revisited. But, it doesn't free up the memory consumed by tabs even if you don't go back to the tab for multiple days. You can free some of this by shutting down Sense and restarting it.

Also, there are some memory leaks in the OS itself. It's related to some graphics dlls or possibly just 1. These are actual true leaks, but it's not specific to Energy ROMs. There is some discussion about it from about a year or two ago.

In any case, a soft reset before bed and once in the morning usually keeps memory under control. For memory intensive apps, stop Sense first.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Disabling the honeycomb start menu in favor of the list menu or WinStart would help a lot on the memory front. The default 6.5.3 start menu uses around 40MB if memory serves.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
Right. I used to use WinStart. It gave lots of available memory and still looked nice.

Alot of the start menu memory usage has to do with the custom images for the icons on the start menu that are identified by the registry.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] weresgyufa:
Thank you, i have downloaded and flashed it ;) its great, i would like to try the Add-ons, but i can't download it :( the site is not working.

"Add-ons: NRGZ made a few add-ons available on his website. To check them, click here."
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
>>Alot of the start menu memory usage has to do with the custom images for the icons on the start menu that are identified by the registry.<<

Hi, JVH3,

Taking this another step further, could we assume that with no icons at all in Start Menu, or maybe just one icon for all applications, and using only text to identify said applications, that there'd be lot more available memory? And would that make things snappier?

I use a paid-for version of WinStart, and I do like everything about my TP2 except the general lagginess. Though maybe more available RAM is apples-annd-oranges in terms of snappiness.

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
I believe WinStart caches the icons differently than the normal Menu. I think it's called on to display as needed, rather than in the normal one where it hangs in RAM all the time. WinStart *I think* clears out of RAM once it's done. This saves you lots of RAM right from the get go. WinStart only eats up 15 or 20MB of RAM. I know it was less than half of what the normal one used when I had it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GT247:
I thought I was going to be all cool and stuff and post about winstart but look at me now....late with posting old information :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
That makes sense. Be interesting to see RAM usage vs response if users could forgo *any* Start menu completely, go instead to something like a command line and type in a given *.exe and measure response from there.

But that's the Linux in me :)

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tshephard:
fr 20397

Is this still the best advice? (I've seen nothing anywhere else to link MSVC 23*** to WM 23*** etc.)

THX!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
Wow, you did some digging to find that post. There really hasn't been any advancements in Microsoft Voice Command, so yes it will work great.

Really. There wasn't much difference between any of the versions. Only subtle details.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GT247:
Lol, thank you JVH3
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mstfysn:
Dear All,

I have HTC touch pro2 U.S. Cellular and i installed "engine ROM". But i noticed that the battery life become very short (i.e 6 hours without using the device.)

The device info.

Operator version: energy.

ROM version: 04.Jul.2011

ROM date: 11/20/09

Radio version: 2.18.00W V

Is there any solution for this problem?

Thank you very much.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] monomer888:
Isn't US Cellular a CDMA network? If you have a CDMA Touch Pro 2, then you're probably not in the right thread because this is the GSM forum. NRGZ28 has a link at the top of the first post (in red) to a forum where you might get more help. Good luck! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mstfysn:
Thanks for your help.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] curiousrom:
TP2 CDMA Off Topic but Android Not?

That's funny considering all the recent posts totally off topic about Android and other brand of phones... EDIT: just went back a couple of pages and noticed that the off topic posts were deleted, thank you moderators!

To reduce power consumption on my Tilt 2 I lower screen brightness when not needed, turn off updates in the slider > Settings > Data services like Weather & email for example as I don't need instant updates, disable useless Home screen tabs in Settings > Personalize and since there are plenty of links in Action and the Start menu, reduced the Cookie Home layout to a single page of links.

This is not a fast ROM to start with but noticed that when the Settings > SD card & Phone storage > Free storage is very low then the phones becomes very slow and laggy which I presume consumes juice as it tries to operate.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BillBunyip:
That is just sad. Monomer888 was kindly pointing out that if your phone is a cdma model (based on your provider), then the ROM in this thread will not work, and possibly damage your phone. He kindly provided you info on where you can find the thread for NRGZ CDMA ROM, which I understand is just as polished as this one. He wasn't having a go at you for being off topic, he was being helpful.

Personally I'm sorry to see those posts removed. I will eventually have to look for an Android replacement, and I hoped to revisit here to see if any familiar respected posters were still active or lurking to ask their advice. Now I just hope I can find some familiar names in the other forums.

Edit: Sorry mystfsn, just saw you realised Monomer888 was helping. It was curiousrom chiming in from the sidelines who seemed to miss the point of the post.