yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
+1

Only just flashed Jul 31, but the problem still seems to be there. Only getting 2 bars myself, and normally the reception is three or four bars in my house.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mark72501:
Good to know it's not just me. I am currently sitting in the city, where I always have full bars and the person next to me does, and only show 2. Seems it's still an issue...but I'm sure NRG will figure it out. Phone still works great so it seems to just be the way it's reporting the signal to the taskbar readout... (ha! I say that as if I know all about the inner workings and cooking a ROM...lol!)

I'm sure a fix will come in due time...until then, I will survive!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] J-Hop2o6:
i guess that means cancel my DL until further notice.. i wonder what the problem is.. its doin this to me on yesterdays release.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Yeah I wouldn't bother, because I think the only change otherwise is the camera settings fix, which you can get via cab anyway.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] prag16:
Yep, same; two bar signal persists in 7/31 build. Boo; that's the only reason I reflashed; was really bothering me for some reason; oh well; guess I'll have to live with it. Might go back to 5/16 build anyway since that is STILL the last one I've seen that didn't sport random sense freezes and massive memory leaks...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] monomer888:
Yeah considering this post, it's all been rather odd! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
*Twilight Zone music starts to play*

:eek:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigWopHH:
Weird. I know it's not a showstopper because everything is OK after a soft-reset, but maybe try installing some other things first?

I had the same problem when I tried to makes changes to Sense and CHT before anything else, but didn't have the problem when I didn't make any changes until the end of my "new ROM" routine.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] get_ur_tilt_on:
just flashed from 24jul to 30jul now to 31jul.......glad to see the dialer back and looking great! signal bars now showing 1 half of bar(the first little bar).......it doesnt affect the connectivity speed, and the H is still showing, i will test the lockscreen/incoming phone call situation...:rolleyes:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] teague:
Interesting. I am going to flash the 7/31 ROM and try again. I'll try your suggestion and see how that works. I haven't seen this issue before and I've been flashing NRG ROMS regularly for months now. I did notice that there was no hang issue if I said "no" to the XDA_UC restore. Hmmm.

Thanks a bunch for the reply.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] amircoyote:
i dont know

i wanna rom witch is very simple & running Fast
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmalka:
That would be ........ stock! (sorry, I could not resist)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chrislynch:
Thanks for the tip. I did find this on energyrom.com/Addons. However, this did not change the lockscreen.

It appears that the soft button "Lock" on the Start Menu still points to "\windows\devicelock.exe".
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] monomer888:
Hmmm that is odd. You could try this manual registry edit (changes a different key to the one used in the .cab file). As the post says, use at your own risk!

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7426234&postcount=19998
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] c0ach:
2 questions.

1. When will reference be put up? was really hoping to flash it before i left on this trip.

2. I've heard from friends that theyve called me a bunch but my phone never rings. Is this just a problem with t-mobile or should i update my radio. Is the rom causing the problem?

any help greatly appreciated.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigBadger:
I think you should do some reading, decide what custom ROM you want to flash first, try it out and then ask for help if you have a problem. If you can't handle flashing by yourself, you might want to just stick to the stock ROM. See the links in my signature.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] raz1337:
Possibly off topic question...

I've taken to using TCPMP after using Energy ROM, but the playlist creation bugs me. When I go to add files, it's way too easy to double tap the file when trying to merely select it as a part of multiple files. This makes adding many files to a playlist at once very annoying. How do others deal with this?

Also, I'm wondering where/if the bluetooth internet sharing is in Energy.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] PUTALE:
i think I have found my fav rom now. For everyone who wants the fast and stable ROM. Try the Jul 30 or Jul 31 standard or refernece ROM. This rom has the new sense 2.5 and alos the latest winmo 6.5.3 looks. I have used it and hte speed feels the same as the 6.5 where the start button is on the top.

everything works fine so far and the speed is nice. I like how the 6.5.3 works so I think I will stick with this one.

As for the ram usage, the reference seems to be using the same amoutn regardless which version of winmo it runs. So, if you like the 6.5.3, go with it.

While I like the customization of the other ROM, they can be slightly buggy and consumes a bit more ram. So anyone who wants a stable rom, I would definitely suggest starting on this one.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rcgators:
saw that one coming...

Reference is up now.

I thought 31 was coming because the new dialer was junk:(. Surprised to see the new reference since it still had the old dialer:confused:.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] zeoran:
SMS Location

Does anyone know if this (or any other ROM for the Tilt 2) gives the option of storing all the SMS messages on the micro-sd card? I have over 5,000 txt messages and I really need to keep them, but it's eating up ever more program memory, so my phone is running slower and slower. I've been able to move everything else (my docs, pics, music, video, programs) to the card but not the SMS messages...which is weird because I'd almost swear that there was an option to do this on my original Tilt 1, running Windows Mobile 6.1.

But I really want to go from stock to this ROM, but I NEED that feature...

~Z
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] c0ach:
Can you link to it, whenever i click on the icon it just shows july 22 and july 24... I'm probably about to feel really stupid.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stained-steel:
I'd suggest archiving them, using Microsoft's MyPhone (included in NRG's ROM's) instead...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rcgators:
Would be nice to know which radio & rom...

Nothing about the new .95 radio on the raido thread... You can check watch it here.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=549939

If you have the 23673 30th rom, then maybe it's a bug with the new dialer that NRG says is junk.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mark72501:
Yes, I also recommend MyPhone. If you have that many things to sync and don't have a 3G connection, I would recommend being connected to Wifi the first time as the first sync takes longer, especially with over 5,000 texts to transfer.

MyPhone can be set to automatically sync daily and will keep everything up to date. You can then access the texts, etc., on the Microsoft MyPhone site, microsoft.myphone.com. You'll need a 'Live' login so you may want to sign-up on the website first if you don't already have a Windows Live user ID.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] NRGZ28:
Can one of you guys with the "2 bar" issue, install a new rilphone.dll from the radio threads and see if it corrects that issue ? I'd do it myself but I don't have a GSM Rhodium handy..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joshwah:
2 bar max problem. I even tried flashing a new radio. Still no higher than 2. Any answers?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Hey NRGZ28, Quickly skimmed through the radio thread - could not find a link to a recent update for the rilphone.dll.

So if you suspect that the new radio is to blame, I can quickly flash the stock AT&T radio back and see if this 2 bar issue goes away..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] raz1337:
Tried this file for the T-Mobile stock instant messaging apps. It installs OzIM. That doesn't work for me on the July 24th Energy Standard WM 6.5. Is it impossible to get the stock T-Mobile IM apps that came with the phone when I bought it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] RoboWang:
Nope, same here. Been waiting patiently for reference, my favorite.

I would rather have the best nrg makes today, than a known buggy one, so, I am in no hurry. 24 July works good, for me.

I am actually waiting for a debugged cookie 2.0.

That would be my final flash on this year old phone. I can upgrade next year.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] monomer888:
I suspect very few of the radio packages will contain a rilphone.dll. Certainly, I've downloaded 5 different versions, and haven't seen a rilphone.dll yet.

The radio thread actively discourages us novices from meddling with it. :o
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] raz1337:
Sorry. Couldn't resist as soon as I read that.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Very true.. But went looking as I'm sure NRGZ knows more about this stuff than I do.. Anyway, no luck.. I know I found a rilphone.dll on a different thread a while ago - nothing today.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
No luck with the Stock AT&T radio either (my siggy). I've tried various radios before, but always gone back to the stock Tilt2 as it has worked best for me, here in San Diego. This time, the recent Max Sense ROMs are all doing the same thing with both stock and new AT&T radios - 2 bars on Sense and 3 on Max Sense. But when Sense drops to 1, MaxSense also drops to 1, but jumps back to 3 when Sense goes 1->2

Anyway, this is at home, where I've frankly not looked at the signal strength before. I'll continue my observations next week when I'll be in a different part of town and where I've seen full strength (4 bars) before.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stained-steel:
I can confirm, this (within certain constraints): I just "downgraded" my radio from my sig to 4.49.25.91... With the same results: Two bars max at home, when I normally get three to four (I also live within about a block of the nearest cell tower, so I've ALWAYS had a minimum of three bars at home, inside)...

I also tweeted NRG about trying to find the rilphone for the newest radio (seems none of us can find it; I suspect it's not even available)...

I did read a response of his to someone else on Twitter, basically stating something already reported here: that it's really nothing more than a 'cosmetic' issue. In other words, your signal strength is ACTUALLY still the same as it was, but for whatever reason, the indicator is showing 1-2 bars less than actuality... I hope that quells some anxiety here, because otherwise, this is a really nice ROM version!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] RoboWang:
flash..zap...zoooooom......
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] J-Hop2o6:
i knew it was just "cosmetic".. but how can we fix this "cosmetic" issue? cuhz yea, at my house, im ALWAYS FULL BARS! but now, im maxing out @ 2.. does NRGz "rilphone" cab fix fix the problem? anyone? changing radios work? flashing to an older rom work?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stained-steel:
Erm, what rilphone cab???
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] J-Hop2o6:
i see u missed NRGz last post on the previous page (493).. he said look for the rilphone.dll

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7437379&postcount=24650

hmm.. cant find rilphone.dll tho
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stained-steel:
No, I saw that, but you may have missed my own (and others) post/s in regards to that: It seems that it's simply not available... AND, even if it were, it's meant to be cooked into the ROM, not installed by the end user (that I know of anyway)...

If you've found it for us, please post/upload it, so that we might test NRG's theory...

EDIT: LOL: I see you're not finding it either...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] beerbaronstatic:
Just looked, the 7/21(I think, the one before 7/24) and the 7/30 21911 both have a rilphone.dll with the same size, so I'm guessing thats not what changed
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stained-steel:
Good outlook, but did you try flashing Jul.21, with an older radio version...? I'm thinking of trying that, because before Jul.24, I never had that issue...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] PUTALE:
I have also seen my radio stuck at 2 bars with the energy reference rom. Before I flash to this rom, I have also flashed to the new ATT rom and I also notice the signal is lower with that ROM. However, that ROM's bar do changes and does not just stuck at 2 bar.

this is probably how the new rom changes the reports. I am not too sure if it affect the real performance or just the signal icons. in terms of calling, I have not seen any issue.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stained-steel:
Re-Flashing Jul.21 ROM, with newest Radio: 4.49.25.95...

Will report soon...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stained-steel:
...And I can now confirm: It's a 'cosmetic' issue with the new ROM. I have full bars (newest radio/Jul 21st ROM)...

Hopefully, NRG can find a solution for this (maybe a new rilphone...?), but honestly, if it still works (regardless of what you see there), then it ain't broke...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigWopHH:
Is the rilphone.dll file different in the 21st ROM?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] beerbaronstatic:
They appear to be the same size, so i'd assume theyre the same
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stained-steel:
Honestly, I haven't checked that in at least a year and a half... I just tend to trust that my Chef is doing his homework... If anyone else wants to check it out, please feel free...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bugmenever:
I don't want to complain, because this is the most awesome rom of all that I tried out, and in my opinion rescues Touch Pro 2....but the one thing I have problems with is changing the advanced settings on the camera. I can view the advanced settings, but I can't change any of them. The phone still takes pictures, but it'd be nice to tweak those settings.

Is there a fix for the advanced camera issues? I love this rom (and I now love my brand new Touch Pro 2 phone) but if I could only get that one thing I'd be happier.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bugmenever:
I found one bug in this otherwise incredibly assume ROM.

Start->Tools->BsB Tweaks->Menu->Pinch to Zoom

...this causes an Error. A NullReferenceExecption. The code does output at this point if you tap details.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] teague:
I'm having all sorts of problems with the 7/30 and 7/31 23673 Sense 2.5 Cookie Dinik ROMs on my TP2. They hang immediately after flashing and sometimes will not start sense after a restart. I've searched but cannot find a mirror for past releases. Can someone provide a link? Thanks in advance.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chetbkool:
Known issue with the 7/30 release. Has been fixed in the 31st version. Here is the cab for the fix.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
The 2 bars display issue is not radio specific. All that changed was that I flashed from 7/24 to 7/30 CHT release (same radio), and the display dropped to 2 bars.

It's a bit strange that people are flashing to an older ROM that didn't have the signal display issue and still seeing 2 bars...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chetbkool:
Here you go.

http://f1ip.net/plug.php?e=index&f=./Downloads/RhodiumFiles/Roms/EnergyRom
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] teague:
Thanks! I really appreciate it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stained-steel:
I can 'confirm' that this ISN'T happening (ROM in my sig)...

A few posts back, I related to flashing an older ROM, with, and without the new radio... Issue was gone...

Like I reported (back); This is a 'cosmetic' issue, nothing more...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Ahem, we're using different ROMs. Might have to give the one you're using a try.

Appreciate the feedback on you getting all bars back, but you're the first one to report back that flashing to an older ROM fixes this. I said it's bizarre that several folks that said flashing to an older ROM DIDN'T fix the issue... I stand behind that statement.

And yes, I know this is purely a cosmetic issue as I was the first one to report this issue and even mentioned "there seems to be no change to actual signal strength." (http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7424008&postcount=24519)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] osiedacz:
2 Bars of Signal

I too am having the 2 bar issue on the 7/30 21911 cookies ROM. Here are the results of my little 2 bar signal experiment. I tried 3 different radios and 2 different roms, in all of their combinations. I tried the 7/24 & 7/30 cookies 21911 roms along with the 4.48.25.20, 4.49.25.91 & 4.49.25.95 radios.

All three radios work fine with the 7/24 ROM. Even after running the connection wizard and the "at&t carrier provisioning 1".

What I found interesting about the 7/30 ROM (the newer one with the fixed dialer) is that on a clean install with no SD card the bars worked fine after the initial connection wizard set me up to AT&T. But after I ran the "at&t carrier provisioning 1" the bars dropped to 2. I tried this scenario in many different ways. If I hard reset the phone and only let the connection wizard run, I had up to 5 bars.

Hope this helps some, NRG.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Very cool, thanks for the feedback. Will give this a try!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] boochye:
Dialer

Just out of curousity- running the Jul 31st dinik rom and my dialer looks the same as always. Is there really a new dialer?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FIT4C:
I am oddly having a sense hang up issue since last night after flashing the newly updated radio 4.49.25.95. I say oddly because I am on the 23673 July24 cookie/dinik build and now sense NEVER launches. I have tried almost everything I can think of and all I've searched for can't find any similar issues. The radio gave me 1 more bar in my house which was awesome, however sense will not launch. What is also wierd is that if I remove my sim card, then sense will launch.:confused: I even got a new sim card from AT&T today and still having same issue. Now I flashed the stock ROM to revert back to original radio 4.48.25.20, reflashed July24 build and still having same issue ANY HELP WITH THIS ISSUE IS MUCH APPRECIATED.

What really sucks is that this ROM is my favorite ROM, no issues whatsoever and FAST.

FYI: I am an avid searcher and am still searching for an answer as this is posted, but I wanted to get the issue posted because I unfortunately need the fix by tomorrow because this is my daily driver.

I can confirm this as well. After flashing back to the stock AT&T ROM (while troubleshooting the above issue) I get 3-4 bars. Oddly here is that I am having the 2 bar issue with the the July24 cookie/dinik build.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Even though the "2 bar" issue is a cosmetic one in the main, it's still a bit disconcerting and inconvenient. If you're travelling around, then you're not going to get much notice of the signal dropping if you go into a patchy area.

So it's cosmetic, but the signal indicator is typically a pretty important one in the use of the phone.

I'm not *too* worried about this, so I'm not flashing back to a previous ROM at the moment. I realise NRG will soon get this sorted for us (just in case anyone thinks I'm getting on his case here).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Try the FAQ, which has some advice about deleting a folder on your SD card, which could be causing the problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
You might find that a tap on the screen is all you need to make Sense launch properly, I've had a similar problem myself.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Looks to me like "standard" is up, but not a new "reference".
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Kangburra:
Are you saying you might need to faucet? :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Be careful not to get the phone *too* wet when you do it though :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] monomer888:
For anyone interested in what rilphone.dll does, there is a link in the first post of the Radio thread to Da_G's explanation. Basically, it acts like a middle man between WM and the cellular radio.

From pure speculation, if maxsense is able to read 3 bars, and Sense only a max of 2, then either it's using another method to determine signal strength, or its uses a different scale for its bars.

To summarise from the last few posts, the rilphone.dll file itself has not been changed between ROMs, and the 'two bar' problem (albeit a cosmetic one) seems to only affect the most recent ROMs (despite different radio versions being used). I think you've come to the conclusion that rilphone.dll itself isn't the issue and we probably have to wait for further developments from NRGZ.

(For completeness, does anyone happen to know if the rilphone.dll file in the leaked ATT ROM is different?)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] monomer888:
I was wondering about that. I don't know if I've been missing a new download link for the Reference series, or whether some people are calling the 21911 build "reference". :confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wspaw:
People Tab Issues

On the 23673 CHT July 24 and 30 I've had problems with the contacts on the People tab - they change and disappear randomly. Sometimes the correct picture will remain, but, the name will be different or the name will be correct, but, the icon will be another contact's pic. When the affected icons are selected another random contact's # is dialed.

Anyone else?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FIT4C:
I cannot thank you enough for this nugget of info! Sense finally launched after deleting said folder off the SD card. I will definately sleep tight tonight.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Don't thank me, thank mmalka for maintaining the FAQ for us ! ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Update from NRG's Twitter feed :
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FIT4C:
BIG PROPS TO mmalka! thank you.

Thank you steviewevie for pointing me in the right direction.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
I've not seen this myself, but I remember a few other people reporting it in the past. I did a quick search but couldn't find a solution as such. Anyone else recall a fix ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] amircoyote:
I Wanna Latest Version Of Energy ROm (GTX WHite)

I cant Download via Hotfile nor easyshare

PLz guide me To Download This Rom For My TP

GSM
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] adoute:
I don't know of a fix, but it has happened to me with the Jul 31 23673 Co0kie build. I originally had no contacts on the favorite screen (there are usually 6). I added one, and 3 suddenly appeared... Strange.