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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
The point of my post was apparently completely missed.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
NRG Feb.27 ROM Weird Home on Reboot

I got this twice on reboot since I flashed Feb.27 yesterday on a phone with previously running Feb.12. Since I imported the settings, they are identical to before.

I can't tell what in the mix caused that: ROM, Sense, CHT and or settings & widgets in conjunction with what's in my Windows/Startup which I also captured and posted below. Or some export/import errors.

Home was cloudy :) and hardware End button would not bring up the normal layout and sliding to Settings would show a blank tab but Start was working so I used Whip2Snap to capture Home & the Weather tab which was showing Tapei (Taiwan) :) instead of my usual Puntarenas in Costa Rica with my SIM inserted.

I did not changed any settings related to My Location nor added any cities. I'm not worried, but just posting this in case somebody else gets the same error. Here are the normal (taken 9 minutes after rebooting the weird) and the weird below it.

Is there a way to introduce a delay for the loading of the stuff in Windows/Startup to give time to Sense & CHT to load properly before the rest?

Edit: I'm currently downloading a fresh copy of Energy.RHODIUM.28244.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Feb.27 and will try to reproduce the error on my spare Tilt 2 after Task29 & importing the same settings.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
Tapei is one of the default cities.

When the weather page encounters strange errors, it resets to the default set of cities.

Here is 1 way of probably many to create a strange error that will do this.

Using the weather city editor that I wrote to intentionally screw things up.

Create a backup.

Then, create a custom city and make sure to use the correct Accuweather code.

Add the city to the weather tab.

Backup

[HKCU\software\HTC\Manila]

Weather.CityList

Then restore the backup that was just created.

Then restore the reg entry just backed up.

Restart Sense.

It will give you some grief, but then eventually the default cities will be there.

Since you have no custom cities or even set cities on the weather tab, I suspect that My Location did not find a location for you and that caused some error. I always have cities on my weather tab, and have never seen it reset, so maybe if My Location does not work and there are no cities it errors.

I know of no way to force a delay. Sense starts, and then it just does its thing. The way Cookie is develped, it is a part of Sense, just like all the tabs are. Only suggestion to accomplish this would be to set weather to not automatically download. Then change the setting after Sense is up and running.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Markstar:
Quick Links disappear on level 1

Hi,

in the recent ROMs (Jan06 was my first custom ROM and I didn't have the problem there, but I have had the problem in all February builds), I have trouble with the Quick Links. While they work perfectly normal most of the time, the ones on level 1 (the 2 rows) sometimes disappear when I switch to the Home tab. :(

It's not that big of a deal and I get them back immediately when I flip down to level 2 (where all Quick Links are displayed as they are supposed to) and back up again, but I'm still wondering if there is anything I can do about this (other than just using Free Links).

Thanks in advance!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
Stop Internet Tab Bookmarks Refresh

It's an old question but found it searching. This may help someone:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] motisu:
Can't we just DROP the subject???? I think EVERYONE is sick of it already!!!!

The Chef has spoken and that should finish the matter!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] awalt:
I have a question on the UI on 28244 that I have not been able to figure out. If I am on a data screen, I can tap the little KB icon at the bottom middle and the soft keyboard comes on the screen, that I can use. But I don't seem to have a way to make it go away again, in the stock ROM I just tap the little icon at the bottom middle and it disappears. How do I turn the kb off?

Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vinceweis:
Tap the left side of the KB icon.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] osiedacz:
It has also been mentioned recently that you can tap below the keyboard icon, but on the zoom bar. This will close the keyboard everytime.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] awalt:
Thanks for the file. Shouldn't this go in the Windows\HTCTone folder (which needs to be created)?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] awalt:
Thanks vince and osiedacz! Good tips
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] awalt:
One other question - on the stock ROM, you can see % of memory free in the top right corner. Is there a way to get that on the energyROM, I don't see it in ArkSwitch?

thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Germypan:
Hi Chef, thanks for your job... i have a little question: do you put to us an italian version of the new energy rom?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
NRG ROM in Italian or Spanish? - % Memory Free

Never mind Italian, you had a few NRG ROMs already, how about Spanish? :D

Edit: Go there: http://www.energyroms.com/www/flavors/energy.html > Touch Pro 2 Cookie > and I guess you can recognize the Italian flag. :)

Is Feb.04 2011 Energy.RHODIUM.28244.Sense2.5.ITA.Cookie.2.0.Feb.04.7z too old for you? :confused: Since there are no current changelog ( ;) ), how can you tell that the current Feb.27 in English has any major improvements or features? One may presume that there are a lot less downloads for the Italian version vs the English one so it must be lower in the priorities & not updated as often.

I can tell you in advance the answers of the chef's praetorian guards: be grateful for what you already have or make your own ROM or wait & pray but don't bother the chef with requests as he could drop us all together. ;)

*****

% Memory Free Status

You can get that info + a lot more with the free & highly tweakable BattClock. Check this recent post: Tweak: State Indicators BattClock + Softkeybar.

Or download the CHT State Link addon and then add a Quicklink to Home: > long tap on an empty link > State Indicator > and select Memory Load to get % memory status.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rkub:
While I can completely understand your side of it Joe (I would love to see an updated changelog & wouldn't mind goin to 1 place to find it), I can also understand NRG's side (we all benefit from his hard work & would all love for him to have a life outside of XDA) as well as JVH & CFB (I dunno how long u been around but I've seen a few chefs get burnt out by the hard work/lack of appreciation or understanding and then stop cooking, so bein there to defend the chef is a good thing imo). I guess you gotta see it to understand but hopefully this doesn't happen w/ NRG!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Well said. That's all we're saying. None of us are trying to force anyone to see things only our way. We all would love to see a change log for every single update. The fact is that if the chef chooses not to, then it's not a big deal. It takes all of 30 minutes or so to backup and flash a new ROM to try it out. You don't even notice most of the changes anyway most of the time. If there is something new and exciting, NRG always has made it a point to tell us about it. Do what we do, and simply consider it minor changes if there is no log.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rkub:
You know honestly, I've never thought about it that way...lol Anytime there were significant changes NRG has made it known. Honestly, I guess I really don't need to know what small changes were made since it's not really gonna make a difference to me...lol That's not a sarcastic comment either. This just makes it easier for me, if no big changes were made then I really don't need to reflash since the rom I have now is workin great!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MKK:
"Free Storage" remaining

Was wondering if anyone who has recently installed the Feb 27 "Energy.RHODIUM.21916.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0" can share with us how much "Free Storage" they have left.

It would be particularly valuable to know how much Free Storage exists just after a clean install and with nothing other than the paid version of Winstart. I'm super hungry for some more Free Storage. But because it takes me so long to flash a new ROM and get everything tweaked just right, I'd hate to go to all that effort only to find that I have even less Free Storage than I do now.

Thanks!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jasonchiu:
great work! keep it up!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
Re: Flashing Syndrome & Changelog Update Lag

That's what I just decided after flashing Feb.27. I'll invest my time from now on in tweaking my current ROM and if some users report some significant changes/tweaks/updates in a new ROM then I'll consider flashing it.

About the changelog thing, I just mentioned it in passing along with my donation # in the post supporting of JVH3's mini donation drive here: Re: Thank you NRGZ28 / donation / confirmation number. I was not expecting such an aggressive response. :eek:

I think I just explained why it would be a good thing to update the changelog on NRG's website page #1 but

it's not a show stopper

as users in this thread do report changes they can detect and it never prevented me from flashing anyway. I could not resist a little bit of teasing with the praetorian guards comment but

I do not want to discuss the Changelog Update Lag any further

.

BTW if we are now using the Thanks button for showing our approval of an opinion instead of saying thanks for the usefulness of a post's content then maybe XDA could add a button like this next to that button so we could show our disagreement ;) :
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rkub:
Since JVH3 and Joe Bleau have both done extensive reports on the 2/27 rom and neither have reported significant changes in the amount of Free Storage I think it's safe to assume that the Free Storage is pretty much the same. NRG hasn't changed anything big so not much difference... Also Joe Bleau is an avid watcher or free ram, check his posts on memory savings w/ the assorted start menus, so I really think it's safe to say the free storage is pretty much the same.. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MKK:
Thanks for the helpful reply. It's been about four months since my last Cookie 1.85 flash. Right now, with almost nothing extra installed, except a foreign-language dictionary, not even Google Maps, I struggle with less that 10 MB Free Storage. Glad to know you're all pretty confident that my TP2 will be much happier with the 2/27 Cookie.2.0 ROM, using the the paid version of Winstart. Really a drag sometimes for me not to have Google Maps available. Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rkub:
Are you using 1 of the memory saving start menus? Forgot to update my sig, I'm using the Feb 19 CHT 2.0 w/ Touch of Glass theme and after setting everything up and loading all programs and using the CSM option I have 52mbs of ram after 2-3 days of use... After a soft reset I usually have around 75-80 free... It doesn't sound like your using 1 of the menu options, I'd definitely suggest trying em out. I use google maps on a daily basis and don't usually have any problems unless I have a few things running that I forgot about... I haven't tried out Winstart free or paid yet so dunno bout that but Joe and JVH use it and seem to love it. I might be moving to Android soon so dunno if I wanna put out money for an app at this moment...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
Trying out BattClock / How to restore it through XDA_UC

Currently trying out BattClock

I am testing out BattClock that Joe posted a link to here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=11570454&postcount=33345

The user interface to Configure it seems pretty clunky, but importing the file

from that post: BattClock.reg.txt 27-02-2011.rar (573 Bytes, 6 views) gave a good starting point.

Configuration is stored in the registry

everything below and including [HKCU\Software\ZuinigeRijder]

so back that up as a reg file and put it in your XDA_UC folder

BattClock at 277.5 K is much larger than Battery + Memory Meter.cab, which was only 14.1 K.

[EDIT]The actual memory consumed when running is very small. See this post: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=11799575&postcount=33514 [/EDIT]

Battery + Memory Meter.cab would put a multicolored stripe on top for battery and below for memory.

BattClock is probably overkill for me, but I wanted to try it out.

[EDIT]I am actually fining that I kind of like being able to see the CPU usage and mA. I am going to add this to my XDA_UC along with the reg file.[/EDIT]
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
You are talking storage right?

Or are you talking available RAM (memory that executing programs consume)?

As far as free storage (where i can install programs to on the phone), I have 136.78 MB free.

RAM - where programs are running, I have about 77 MB free once Sense loads.

Google Maps is cooked into the ROM.

If you only have 10 MB of storage (where you can instal a program to ), then you must have installed a lot of stuff to your phone, or you are storing lots of data on your phone. (mms atttachments, email attachments, photos, videos, etc.)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] osiedacz:
Yes, you are correct. The zip contained the HTCTone folder, I think. That folder should be copied, with the files in it, into the root windows folder.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rkub:
Ya I was wondering the same thing but when he said he only had a language dictionary installed I figured it must me free ram...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
to restore the call waiting tone through XDA_UC

If you want to restore this through XDA_UC on your next flash do this.

On your storage card make sure you have a folder: XDA_UC

In the XDA_UC folder, create a folder called Sense

In the Sense folder, create a folder HTCTone

In the HTCTone folder, put the file.

So put the file at:

\Storage Card\XDA_UC\Sense\HTCTone\
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rkub:
Just curious about this... Since NRG will likely fix this in another upcoming batch, will this create any problems if u leave it there?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakfish:
@JVH3

Great, great post of cabs and tweaks. Many of those cabs, I didn't even know existed. Very glad to get the call recorder (the recorder in EnergyROM is something I haven't gotten working yet).

Hadn't heard of the Aracade collection, either. Ditto for the MS Voice command.

Thank you for taking the time to show links/cabs, and all the intriguing reg tweaks.

Jake
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
Donations - Have you done so lately?

I have donated on average $16 a month to NRGZ28 for last 17 months.

confirmation number / amount / date

4GX94297A29543306 $10.00 Feb 28, 2011

9A0196271J413902H $20.00 Feb 1, 2011

34Y32103U5510311X $1.00 Dec 16, 2010

2D891271CC661172G $20.00 Dec 16, 2010

9HU11018XT9310330 $20.00 Dec 15, 2010

67M84847D2884025R $10.00 Nov 16, 2010

1KW9583525015264P $10.00 Oct 5, 2010

1DS62252MF630133J $10.00 Sep 17, 2010

31S91477W8452171T $10.00 Sep 4, 2010

6WR23215KN716341A $10.00 Aug 6, 2010

6CK3815711515984G $15.00 Jun 1, 2010

84B97537LR452753C $10.00 May 2, 2010

78P09925S7147810A $10.00 Apr 8, 2010

48E86513RT249454X $10.00 Mar 6, 2010

2PJ441555C7069538 $10.00 Feb 26, 2010

9DT64603MM846072Y $10.00 Jan 18, 2010

2EU78104S9530893P $15.00 Dec 24, 2009

56169481182551517 $10.00 Dec 13, 2009

3R456207714451811 $10.00 Nov 5, 2009

01L9866259757714X $50.00 Oct 8, 2009

=====================================

TOTAL $271.00

I'm not saying that everyone should donate this much, but if you have never donated and use the ROMs, please consider doing so. Setting up a paypal account is very easy.

He has kept our aging devices worth using. The roms are virtually flawless and the few existing flaws are easily correctible.

Does not what he provides with each ROM give you at least the equivalent value of going to a movie?

If so, and you've never donated, why not?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
It wont' cause any problem. If it exists, it will overwrite it. It will consume a little space, since ROM files always consume space, even when overwritten, and files that overwrite ROM files also consume space, but it is a very small file.

It may just be a redundant step in your XDA_UC if he gets it corrected in the next batch.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MKK:
Yeah, yeah, I mean internal "Free Storage" (where programs are stored on the phone). Your comments -- all much appreciated! -- made me realize that I do have quite a number of photos on my device, and maybe they are not being held on the storage card but instead on the device's internal memory. Just checked. Photos & videos are all on the storage card. None on internal memory. I went into internal memory just now via Windows Mobile Device Center and was able to track down and purge 10 MB cached stuff inside of HTC Album. But that only boosted me up to 19 MB of internal Free Storage. There must be more to be found. Any suggestions on how to find what needs to be purged?? I'm digging around but not sure how/where to look. And, yes, I am running one of the alternate Start Menus ("Quick Menu"), leaving me with over 80 MB of free "Free program" memory each time I reboot. Thanks!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
Check on the phone these folders:

My Documents\Notes

My Documents\My Pictures

My Documents\My Videos

My Documents\My Ringtones

Application Data\HTC\HTC ALBUM

Application Data\HTC\HTC ALBUM\cache

And check the root as well.

How big is Pim.vol at the root?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MKK:
My Documents\Notes . . . . nothing

My Documents\My Pictures . . . nothing

My Documents\My Videos . . . nothing

My Documents\My Ringtones . . . not much

Application Data\HTC\HTC ALBUM . . . nothing

Application Data\HTC\HTC ALBUM\cache . . . already cleaned out an hour ago

And check the root as well . . . don't see much of anything

How big is Pim.vol at the root?

Only 3.5 MB

Anywhere else I should look?

Thanks!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wmg316:
Did you try going to Start, Tools, Search, Type: Larger than 64KB to see if this shows any large files?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ggreen:
Rotate akter SMS, Email

Hi, I have problem very often.

I have phone in my bracket belt trousers. When is SMS or email arrived I take my phone and unlock. (sometime is no chance unlock for time) and screen is itself rotate to vertical and after to horizontal possition. But I can't to do anything. For a few second si mobile like freezes. After about 10 seconds is everything ok. I think is the bug.

Is possible to disable rotate screen fo everythink? Only for out keyboard enable?

thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
This happens when you use a holster with a magnetic clasp. There are options to keep the screen from rotating when the keyboard opens that would prevent this. When you slide the phone out, it thinks the keyboard is being opened. The best solution is to get a different holster, though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Uncle Evolution:
please Mirror I cant download off hotfile
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Markstar:
Alright, I think I have figured out why this happened: The widgets require some additional pixels at the bottom. If they are too close, they will be hidden, even though they appear to have some space between them.

Since I'm here now (I'm not sure whether or not I should ask this in the CHT thread) I have one more question for now:

- What do the orange and red numbers mean for the Tasks widget?Green is the number of completed tasks, grey the total number of tasks. I had assumed red and orange was to indicate the priority, but that's not it. So what is it?

Thanks in advance!

Edit: Never mind. It's for the due date. :o
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ggreen:
thanks fo reply.

Can you telm me where are options to keep the screen from rotating.

But I change my holster. Thanks o lot
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MKK:
Just did a search (thanks for the suggestion) nothing more than some standard files of mine that are all relatively small. All the big stuff is stored on the storage card. Is there a way to do a search which is more comprehensive? The general Find function on the device does not seem to show more than items like photos, documents, cabs, etc., nothing system related. Than again, if I could see them, I'm would have no clue how to understand what system files are overly large.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sdlopez83:
any change log soon or do we just check the HD2?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DeadBirdDog:
Not posted there yet either.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] osiedacz:
Sorry for jumping in late and if some of this has been tried, I appologize.

1. Have you installed any "themes" over the top of the rom? I have seen the installation of some themes will put redundant versions of manilla files and images into the windows folder and bloat the storage.

2. can you connect your phone to your computer and use file explorer, properties to check the size of each folder on the phone? Be sure to enable the option to see hidden and system files in file explorer. For example, these are the sizes I have currently on my phone.

Application Data: 10 MB

ConnMgr: 158 bytes

Documents and Settings: 1.39 MB

My Documents: 7.50 MB

Program Files: 91.1 MB

Temp: 115 KB

Windows: 450 MB (This must include the ROM files)

Various files including PIM in the root: 8.92 MB