yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[General Questions and Answers] Hamido123:
there are many rom with the new manila 2.5 ......is it possible to extraxt the files and compress a wvga cab versin of them.......i'm waiting to long for it and it seems there is no one who trys to make a cab
[General Questions and Answers] neonoxDE:
Not possible: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4387048&postcount=3
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] quadzilla122:
OK, i used to have an LG incite and became a pro at hacking it and flashing it with new roms. It got stolen last month. Now im using a razr and really dislike it. I came across some guy in my area who is selling a touch pro from sprint which i have to unlock to att. It doesnt turn on he claims and i sent him a message asking if he ever tryed flashing the rom and he replied "yes". When i had my incite it was practically unbrickable and if it was bricked you can even reflash it with nothing on the screen and it worked. Is it the same with the Touch pro?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] arrows83:
a sprint touch pro is a cdma device. it will not work for AT$T seeing that they run on gsm. flashing wont help at all, plus where would u put ur sim card?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hdaackda:
Sprint = CDMA

AT&T = GSM

hardware difference. a software/hacking etc cannot rectify it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] 12aon:
Moved to the raphael section
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
:(has any chef ever tried this? as Manila 2.5 is too heavy memory wise for the touch hd, i believe it is best suitable as is originally meant for the new HTC Leo. the next best thing really for our Blackstone instead of Man 2.5/6 is Manila 2.1.19182825.6 as is used by DUtty's R4 and Energy ROM standard edition 20090917
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] SUN-CM-TEAM:
SUN-CM Team presents: Manila 2.5 VGA Port

PLEASE: No Rom requests and no reporting of already known Bugs in this thread!

The ultimate aim of this project is a fully funcional Manila 2.5 for VGA devices

This is a cooperation project between the german SUNX Team and MuttiM

Big Thanks go to: RTT, andyX , ice8lue, myxor, c.r.u.i.s.e, DanyFox, Da_G, Nikoan89, Miri, sztupy, 6Fg8, 12aon, Fredz, KUR0I, Rotastrain, the german HTC-Dev Team and many other XDA-Devs for sharing their knowledge and tools!

AND: Big Thanks go all the Beta testers!

​

Main differences to Manila 2.1:

new Home tab with

> weather forcast, location under the clock and animated weather background

> quick-links (custom links to programs, contacts or other Manila features)

> Animated Backgrounds

New People tab

> All People now improved with better search, Facebook connection, Event view and Groups

Internet Tab now with Preview of the favorite sites

Pictures & Videos and Music Landscape view in fullscreen

Weather with "My Locations" using integrated GPS and Google Maps

much more powerful Footprints tab

Twitter Tab (Build 1919+)

integrated Date and Time pickers

All settings integrated in Manila (incl. Programs, Accounts, Sounds, SIP, Location, Memory, Date, Language/Locale)

> never see native Windows Settings again!

Many other gui improvements

Manila 2.5 Versions

2.5.1918: 99% done

2.5.1919: 30% done but discountiued due to many internal bugs!

2.5.1920/21: 0% done waiting for official release!

Porting Progress: check out our Online Spreadsheet

Pics and Videos:

Manila 2 5 19183726.1 by MuttiM

SUN X by _lab

More Pics by _lab

How it began:

SUN X (german)

MuttiM

Roms including Manila 2.5:

6.5 SUN X MANILA 2.5 beta [WWE][GER][DIAMOND][GSM] <- neraly current port status

6.1 SUN Y MANILA 2.5 beta [WWE][GER][DIAMOND][GSM] <- neraly current port status

ROM with manila 2.5 VGA for TOUCH PRO (RAPHAEL)

ROM with manila 2.5 VGA for DIAMOND CMDA

ROM with manila 2.5 VGA for TOUCH PRO CMDA (RAPHAEL)

Roadmap: Build 1918

100% VGA (some list views have still to be ported)

Animated Background 4 All Tabs (with weather)

Optimized Music Tab <-- done!

...

Roadmap: Build 1919

Discontinued!!! Has too many Bugs!!!

Roadmap: Build 1920/21

No packages availible!

Packages:

Will be released, when everything is ported and they work stable in our testing/beta ROMS.

There are still many bugs because we use leaked beta versions!!!

It doesn't make sense to release Packages without right dependencies and which have to be tested and confirmed to work.

Cabs:

Will be released after the packages for cooks. Because there are many packages which are very close to the system and the roms. This could cause problems on many custom roms or crash them completely.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] _lab:
++++++++++++++ 4 me :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] SUN-CM-TEAM:
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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kisja:
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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] SUN-CM-TEAM:
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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kenleekwanho:
Waiting for your wwe rom! Thank you & go ahead!!!:)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] karanx:
We are waiting for a wwe rom. thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fabius88:
oh men you're the best, my diamond will not lose never preciouness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dimzy_05:
hi sir lab..

it will be release today?im so excited to use the wwe release for diamond gsm.if this will not release today it will be a problem to me to sleep..heheheheehe lol just joking...in so verry excited..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ilijan:
congratulation...

its impresive work...

i cant wait no longer to wwe sunx gsm...

plz upload it fasterrrrr..............................

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kisja:
People! Please! no rom request here! _lab is working hard on the WWE release but it will have an own thread and all descussions and requests can be posted there (or in the current GER thread)!

So please: only descussion about Manila 2.5, its features and Porting here!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] msl7052:
any time frame for a release date?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] HTCDiamond22:
i am soo excited about the cabs
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] drblow:
Please lets not let this thread just turn into hundreds of pages of requests for release times/dates.

We are all keenly awaiting this, and I am sure that the team is going as fast as they can.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kisja:
Cabs/Packages will be released after successful testing in our roms. Because if it is workung on a hardly optimized (for Manila 2.5) Rom like SUN_X, it doesn't mean that you can install everything simply with a cab. This needs some more work to include correct reg settings, to test it on different roms (and stock roms), to figure out ALL dependencies and so on. There are much more Packages Manila 2.5 depends on than Manila 2.1!

So please be patient and check out _labs and MuttiMs roms when they are released.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jeepers007:
Tell us a little more about the animated backgrounds. Is that like a slideshow way of changing backgrounds, or something more exotic?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] stixnstownes:
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Does it work correctly in landscape, especially in the music and messaging tabs, those are the 2 most used by me :p
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Thannatos:
Is there any way we could change the slider to one more like the one 2.1 on the energy roms because this one is a bit to thin and does not look that good?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dwizzy130:
Here's a vid of manila 2.5's animated bg:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11wKmsnNnT0&feature=related

dwizz130
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Asphyx:
All news is posted in the first post of the thread.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Crossxcalibur:
I downloaded yoztag'z 2.1 to my CDMA Touch Pro a little over a month ago and have been EXTREMELY happy. Then I discovered this yesterday... really excited to see this and try it out. You guys make owning an HTC device overwhelmingly satisfying. Thanks!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] stuge123:
I hate to b the one to ask but... ne idea when this 99% project will b 100% and available 4 dl? im VERY excited to see the work made thus far and cant wait for a finished product. GREAT work guys, keep it up!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Il_Simo:
a question only, it's possible to add the programs tab?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] finsmaniac02:
I flashed the XOR raphael rom (GSM) and am pleased to say this port is pretty awesome. Weather updates well, animated weather background works correctly, very smooth flow to it all.

The only places where I think it needs work are the landscape music and photos tabs. It slows down a lot and the porting doesnt seem to be done for music (the photo landscape, everything seems ported fine and the photo you are on is in the middle of the screen, where as the music album you are on is not centered and I think we are missing controls)

Also, the SMS tab inside of a contact doesn't seem to be working in profile or landscape... I hope it can be fixed for both. I know the first page says landscape isn't done in general, but the SMS manila tab would be the ONLY thing I really care about landscape on.

With those things fixed, this would definitely be an everyday usable port for me :-D

that being said... I have a question... is there anyway to get actual appointments on the home screen? It just always said "calendar" to me and would send me to the calendar tab when I clicked it. I like everything EXCEPT this homescreen on 2.5 better than 2.1. I just think its more functional to have appointments on the home screen than quick links is all... but I don't think that is a porting issue, just the design of 2.5

Overall though, GREAT WORK!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] violentz313:
This is rediculious there is not one cdma diamond rom with 2.5 the only one that was available has been long dead and they wont reupload a link for it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] qmt49:
What's that? You can't have software from the Leo on your Diamond just now? You might have to wait a few weeks? I sympathise. It's simply shocking that you can't get instant gratification through unofficial channels.

You want instant gratification? Buy a Leo. Otherwise, let the guys do their work without any more "OMG WTF LINKZ NOW!!!!!!" from you.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] silentP:
Good one... had to chuckle at that one...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jmckeejr:
I wonder if this will be released before another 2.1 port is released? Seems the progress of 2.1 ports is much faster. I have seen 2 2.1 ports released before even a beta 2.5 port :confused: I know 2.5 uses many more files and such, but I still wonder if it will be released soon as it has been in ROMs for a few months now.

OK, thats my one "Gimme now" post. Sorry to waste yet another post trying to figure out why this is found in certain ROMs, but still not released for public use. Hope the progress is going well, we havent really been getting any updates as to whether it is finished or not. Please dont get me wrong, I understand the amount of work that it requires(I do cook ROMs as well). I just thought with a new thread about this it would finally be released. Maybe this thread should be locked until some progress is made?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] theclerk74:
Seeing as how they have a link for the ROM on the first post, it seems like a valid question. Maybe not phrased in the best manner, but whatever. It is lack of updates, communication and even maintenance of posted links that keep people asking these questions. I am sure they are hard at work doing this. And I know it is frustrating to get my hopes up every time I see a new post on this thread, only to see it's another question about possible release dates. But what is to be expected when the first post hasn't been updated to reflect the fact that they are working on porting a newer build than the 1918 that is 99% complete? THAT info was posted in the GSM Touch Pro ROM thread, not here.

I second that this thread should be locked until they are ready for release. With limited communication from the OP's and no real release aside from test ROMS, all we have is 19 pages of "Is it almost ready?" posts.

That said, I patiently await their release!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jsm0372:
So, our strategy for encouraging the development team to continue working on this for FREE and in their SPARE time is to complain about lack of updates, or no CDMA? Honestly the nerve....I agree that maybe the thread should be locked, but please, quit trying to tick off the folks who are gratious enough to spend what extra time they have providing cool hacks and such for us less knowledgeable enthusiasts.

::RETRACTION::

Alright, so apparently this post really upset a few of you, which really wasn't my intention. I apologize for ruffling feathers, it's just been a frustrating day searching the forum for answers and against my typical nature, offered a non-contributory post to the thread. I understand the points made and while I agree that regular posts from the devs are nice, I just don't feel it's an obligation given that they're doing this all for free. CDMA, timely posts, whatever, as long as the posts are constructive, which clearly my frustrated reply was not, then who cares. Clerk and others were right that maybe the thread should be locked until the devs have something to post back to the community.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] theclerk74:
It's not about trying to tick anyone off. All I was saying is that with a little communication, and maintenance of the original post, a lot of these posts would be avoided. It wasn't meant to be taken in a negative way. ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kholk:
I fully quote theclerk74.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jadoe05:
They aren't complaints. What is the point of opening a new thread if it is never updated? Also for those that have CDMA it is not unreasonable for them to inquire about this seeing as though for the most part they haven't been getting much love as far as 2.5 and this website in general. Call me a hypocrite but, i had to get this out there, complaining about people complaining isn't going to do anything. Both sides of this argument have valid points.

The people that are whining about releases and dates and packages and cabs are valid because if it is stable enough to use in a rom then it is stable enough for atleast cooks to be able try in their roms. the only defence i am hearing to this is that "so many packages have so many dependencies blah blah blah people don't want packages that don't work" but the people that are asking for these packages understand that it isn't 100% complete yet. i have massive amounts of respect for the people that are working on these ports but some might take it as them being stingy. what would it hurt to release the packages for people that already know it isn't 100%? Wouldn't it take less time to just upload the packages and continue your work or to provide updates than to come on here and post about how much times it takes to make it perfect and everything else?

The people that are porting this and those that defend them are valid as well because let's face it if any of us could have done this we wouldn't be bothering them. But to them i simply ask, What did you expect? When you use your hard earned and learned skill and your precious time to work on something this great you have to expect people to want it. No, you didn't have to make any of this available to us lowly "regular" people, but the fact is you did and you opened a thread about it. You can choose not to give frequent updates and you can choose not to make packages available yet, but the consequence is 1000 people asking for updates and packages. As someone said earlier the best thing to do is to close this thread until some updates come or until completion.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Asphyx:
It may not be released before the next version of 2.1 but there is a damn good reason why there have been two 2.1 releases and barely one of 2.5. the 2.1's have come from an officially and publicly available phone (Rhodium).

There is no phone out yet running 2.5 that I know of.

Yoz is waiting on the next official release of 2.1 (1919 I think) before he makes his next release. the guys making 2.5 just got a next release and instead of releasing the old one with all it's bugs have decided to port the newer one for a better end product. This is a wise decision because if they had released the old one you would all be bothering the hell out of them for bug fixes, taking them away from porting the version that needs no fix.

As for why there are ROMs released with this it is for testing. The developers are german and Italian. That means they can test GSM but not CDMA versions. They got some cooks to test on CDMA TPs and if you have followed the Manila development you know that there are many differences between the GSM and CDMA varieties. I refer to things like the SMS patch for CDMA plus the dialer compatability issues.

I know everyone wants to run the latest and greatest.

But I don't see anyone complaining to ford that they can't try out a 2012 car before it's got the steering wheel!

Let the guys work and stop interrupting them from the task!

Bottom line is if you force them to post deadlines and answer questions that is time they are NOT using to make the project releasable!

Would you ask your brain surgeon to stop and give you an update every 5 minutes and have him lose his place to answer?

Or have him close you up and release you with the job half done so you can test drive half the job?

Or would you just let him finish and let him get it over with as fast as possible?

It's certainly not going to kill you to use 2.1 until it's ready...

I don't see the logic of people racing to replace a very stable program with an unfinished and probably buggy beta.

Maybe some people just can't be happy unless their phone has issues...

Could explain all the 6.5.1 downloads everyone seems to be racing to use.

So the developers can find and communicate with other developers who might help them and for those who are testing can report their findings!

Have you read the reports of people who tried the roms? All report some problem,sluggishness,broken features when they run it!

We expect that those who are not capable and do not understand what it takes to do something like this to show some consideration and patience while someone does something it would take you FOREVER to do because you do not know how!

Stephen Hawkings is working on a grand unified theory of everything...Do you think he has 50 poeople constantly asking him when it is going to be done?

And/or complaining to him that he hasn't made a progress report or released his work notes?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] muttim86:
guys, please...

close the thread seems to me too... for the port 2.5 there are many new things, released shortly OEMs 1918, so all the chefs can work on it...

just everything will work 100%...

since not doing it for work, but for passion, the time that we use is our free time...

then wait and as I said... support our work! then donate!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jadoe05:
To whoever asked about why their are more versions of 2.1, the answer that Asphyx gave was pretty obvious. If you are gonna argue you can't give him anything that easy to work with. lol. It seems as though he likes to argue and is good at ignoring your strong points and attacking the weak ones. He also seems a bit frustrated but this is a forum it's all fun and games. :D

That's what I thought this site was about. Any find you make you share. I'm sure there would be many bug reports. But there are two things that you seem to not see. The first thing is that they don't have to go back to the thread in which they release the abandoned version, thus making it abandoned. The other thing is that on this awesome site there are many people with programming and software developing/hacking skills, just like any other thing that has been ported, some of those people will undoubtedly take a shot at any bugs that remain in that version.

This analogy is inaccurate. The "steering wheel" for 2.5 is already in existence. What muttim and the team are working on is something that will be on the market within the next year and not something they have to create themselves.

You sir (or madam, no disrespect intended and forgive my ignorance but i didn't think to check your gender) and your hyperbolic statements are hilarious. Manila 2.5, though very important to some, is nowhere near as important as brain surgery. Noone is asking for 5 minute updates, once a week wouldn't be bad though ;).

You don't see the logic but remember this is a community. Everyone isn't going to see things the same way. If people want to try something new who are you to tell them different? Most new things are either buggy or atleast less stable than it's predecessor. Even the TP had problems when it first came out.

So? Again people know that this isn't 100%. And in those rom threads they are asking for bug reports. Like you said the roms are for TESTING.

Please don't confuse not knowing how to do something and not understanding what it takes to do it. Obviously everyone doesn't know how to do it, but that's what this website is for.

Again with the hyperbole. People are not clamoring over that because the average man could do nothing with it. Anyone can learn to use Manila

Thanks for the UPDATE muttim, please know that your work and the work of your team is greatly appreciated. Rather than view the people who ask to try out your work as being impatient or ungrateful just look at it as they are eager to test you great work. Also thank you for not lashing out at us, your lowly fans, as some others have done.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jmckeejr:
No problems :) I was just thinking that some folks could get hold of what you had so far and begin working on optimizations and mods so that when you have a 100% port those folks will have ROMs ready with appropriate packages and a better knowledge of the 2.5 interface and file structure. Believe me, I know how much work goes into making a good ROM and even more into porting packages from other devices. I spend 80% of my spare time working on my ROMs with maybe 4 donations over 6 months, but I continue to do so because I like it and I use the ROM myself. Dont worry, I will be making a donation when I recieve one or after I get paid for the month. Good luck with your port, let me know if I can hon some ROMs but not others.elp with anything. I could possibly help with dependent packages or testing this in different builds if you would like. Thanks again for your work :)

I agree with post above. We are just eager to try this out on different ROMs in different styles. Who knows, maybe it will run good
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jadoe05:
I tip my hat to you sir or madam. A senior member that could explain it better than me. lol. Anyone correct me if i'm wrong but muttim's native language isn't english. I believe he is saying that the packages for the build that was 99% will be released soon.