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[G1 Android Development] ekeefe41:
If google just made all of these apps available on the market it would solve the problem.

Then we could still have custom ROM's minus the propitiatory apps, then we could just install them from the market.

As long as the source already included all the dependency's I don't see how this would not work. There apps are free anyway and we would be getting them from the market, an "official" distributor of said apps.

Win win for everyone.

The market is not one of the propitiatory apps is it? Because that would kinda **** up my master plan here.
[G1 Android Development] roguestatuskat:
HOLY CRAP, i just had a realization... if Cyanogen could obtain a lisence from google, then we could probably put roms in SAM or even the market and just update or have an updater app that could save your homescreen and your google sign-in and other user data.... even have a rooting app on there

this could be a new step towards a more open android putting root and custom roms in the hands of regular users and then if that happens i think android would become truly great then we would surpass the iphone on so many levels not just the developer/flasher level, but on the reggy consumer level
[G1 Android Development] stellarman:
Software backup IS covered specifically later in the code HERE.
[G1 Android Development] cal3thousand:
Problem lies in the frameworks being closed source.

They would have to be re developed
[G1 Android Development] kaddeh:
it isn't the framework that was the issue though, it is the apps that are being distributed with the framework.

What Google did wasn't done tactfully but, at the same time, stymied the possibility of other platforms that didn't have the initial intent of running Android to run Android and utilize Google tools designed for the initial platforms (G1, MyTouch, etc).
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cmsweet21:
In case you haven't heard of the issue yet.

See this thread http://droidappz.org/showthread.php?t=1838

To sign the petition go to

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/cyanmod/
[General Questions and Answers] tarksiala:
From some days after i download Google Mobile app, then click the CAB file to running and make installation, some thing bad, i can't run CAB file and install it, i try with many cabs but same thing, no cab install, my device is HTC Toutch HD with Windows Mobile 6.1.

Please help me...
[General Questions and Answers] Mark Crouch:
What error message do you see when you try to run the .CAB file??

(You are running them on your Touch HD and not on your PC I hope ;))

Mark.
[General Questions and Answers] TNPaparazzi:
You might have to do a hard reset
[General Questions and Answers] tarksiala:
Yes I'm run it from the HTC Toutch HD, and i dont get any error message, when i click on the CAB file no anything doing.

Is Hard reset deleted my data ?

thanks
[General Questions and Answers] Mark Crouch:
Sounds like something you've installed has removed the file association for .CAB files; three options to get it back.....

1. Check to see if your ROM has "Advanced Config" installed in Start | Programs - if it does....

2. Check to see if your ROM has a registry editor installed - it may be in Start | Programs, or in Start | Programs | Tools - if it does......

3. Hard Reset - this will lose ALL your data and settings, so only do this as a last resort (i.e. if none of the other options have helped.

If options 1 and 2 don't help, a hard reset might be your only way out - unless anyone posts a helpful suggestion in this thread :)

Mark.
[General Questions and Answers] mirchichamu:
You can try this:
[G1 Android Development] nockam:
I am trying to test out my app in the emulator and it uses the deviceID\IMEI to register. I need to make sure it really works the way I expect it to but need to change the ID within the emulator to be positive. Does anyone have any ideas how to do this?
[Touch HD General] tarksiala:
From some days after i download Google Mobile app, then click the CAB file to running and make installation, some thing bad, i can't run CAB file and install it, i try with many cabs but same thing, no cab install, my device is HTC Toutch HD with Windows Mobile 6.1.

Please help me..
[Touch HD General] sunnymiu:
is there any error message shown or the phone just didn't respond you?

I guess you have to upgrade to WinMo 6.5 for a better performace and a way to fix that problem
[Touch HD General] tarksiala:
No any respond.

I'm still waiting Official WM 6.5.
[Touch HD General] AGPPC:
Hi,

You can use this program to install cab files.
[Touch HD General] Matthes42:
You have forgotten to mention was happens when "it doesn´t install a cab". Is there any error message?

There´s no need to wait for WM6.5 as cabs are installable even under WM 6.1.

Btw: I don´t think you will ever get any official version of WM 6.5 for Blackstone by HTC and cooked ROMs with WM 6.5 are available right now
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
Going to ask a basic query here, but I'm assuming you are trying to open cab file directly from your HD and not on your pc, yes? All cabs files need to be transferred onto your HD first and installed directly by using your file explorer to navigate to saved location and clicking on it.

As stated by Matthes42 above you do not need wm6.5 on your device for this to work. It should work fine on wm6.1

If this is what you are doing and its still not working can your provide the error message you recieve. Also, make sure you have .net framework 3.5 installed on your device.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Android0014:
Is there any way or any app that help explore the ext2/3 or 4 part on the sd card to see what apps are installed there? and see all files for each app?

You might ask why I need to do this; it's because I want to remove this app but still wanna keep a few wallpaper pictures from it So I'm hoping that there is a way to access ext4 part on the sd card so I can just copy and paste those pics that I want.

any help is appreciated.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fingerlickin:
Terminal Emulator

su
cd /system/sd/app
ls
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Android0014:
I have a Magic so I don't have a physical keyboard; However, I was able to use the onscreen keyboard to type su.

Here is how it looks like:

Open Terminal Emulator

$

Type su then "enter"

$su

Nothing happened? It doesn't go to the next line like how it works in command shell

Is there a problem with Terminal Emulator in Cyanogen 4.0.4 rom?

There is also an app called SuperUser in the cm 4.0.4 rom, but when I open it, I only see a blank screen? that's not nornal, is it?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Android0014:
nvm, found it.

the "enter" key dont work on soft keyboard, that's why
[General Topics] pinkdiamonds:
hi,

i was wondering if you could void your water damage your phone even if you havent dropped it into water? Sorry about the stupid question, but i take good care of my kaiser too and next week will be sending it back to warranty and just read that someone's phone had been rejected for warranty as their sticker was water marked (? something like that). Obviously you'd know if you've dropped your phone into water, but is it possible for a phone to be water damaged without being immersed in water?

Sorry if the q is really stupid :S
[General Topics] ZenithUK:
Yes it bloody well is possible to get "water ingress" without being immersed!

My Magic developed a fault where it wouldn't turn on but showed a blue LED (orange when plugged on USB). I sent it off to HTC's service centre and it took them a week to diagnose it. They said that there was water damage and that I would have to pay £277 for a new motherboard, new LCM and new casing!!!!

I took exception to this and said that I did NOT authorise all those repairs and only give authority for the motherboard. They wouldn't do it and just kept telling me that it's either £277 for the full repair or under £20 to send it back. What really pisses me off is that there is a water sensitive sticker on the picture they sent me and it's WHITE (ie. no water present).

What also pisses me off is that I paid LESS than that on eBay for it a couple of months ago.

I'm tempted to ask for it back, smash the screen and put a claim on my house insurance.
[G1 Android Development] hiroots:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=564664

its hitler getting mad at google. funny poop maynn.
[G1 Android Development] enomther:
............... ":) ......................

Was funny.
[G1 Android Development] Daneshm90:
All i can say is AHAHAHAHAHA
[G1 Android Development] seaweeduk:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=564664
[G1 Android Development] ccyrowski:
that was FANTASTIC!
[G1 Android Development] toxtrepla:
Funny or not, it's in the wrong section.
[G1 Android Development] hiroots:
aww man it was posted already, everyone go the guys thread. i found it on a site thats why i posted it. ima re do the link to the thread.
[G1 Android Development] Gary13579:
That thread was moved out of this forum for a reason.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] hausjellp:
I have seen promo pictures of WinMo 6.5, is there a ROM that looks like the promo pictures?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] ElCondor:
Promo pictures?

There are plenty of 6.5 roms out here, even 6.5.1.:)

Next time, please search/read before posting questions like this.

Regards
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] hausjellp:
I have searched, all the ROMs I have seen are custo or contain loads of extra apps etc. I am looking for the totally plain standard 'factory' WinMo 6.5 ROM.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] ARocKz:
usualy the original roms you get from HTC or your mobile carrier

it would be hard to find an non-custom rom 6.5 because it wasnt released from MS

there are a lot of custom roms here without apps ... usualy called "lite" or "clean"

heres's some of them:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=549460

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=558170

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=553844

and lots more

dont ask for recommandations ... its strictly user feeling ... all cookers/ chefs are experienced and provide good roms and good support ... the community also

cheers
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ebg10:
Is the myTouch 3g any faster than the G1 when running a hero rom?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fingerlickin:
it's the same exact phone besides looks and a hardware keyboard.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jad011:
i Thought the mytouch had more internal memory?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brian_v3ntura:
the mytouch has more ROM memory. it doubles the g1.s but they both have the same ram
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AdrianK:
That's the 32A HTC Magic...32B is 192, same as the G1.

If you want Hero to run faster, why not buy a Hero? It will probably be cheaper than a 32 Magic...
[G1 General] rondey-:
I bought a g1 last year. I rooted my phone. I fell in love with android and the great community behind it. I am an avid cyanogen mod user.

Google basically ripped out the great fun, learning experimence, and day to day usage i now have in android.

I know how this community feels about 'warez'. I know how this community feels about cyanogen and his contribution to not only us but an 'open source' environment to cell phones.

Well basically what i am getting to is that cyanogen may be legally wrong but what if a developer were to release roms behind closed doors? To torrents and newsgroups and not officially have a face behind said rom. If a developer were to do that, would xda support threads pretaining to that rom? Would all of us still download and love a rom like we do now? Or am i just wrong for getting to that?

If this thread is deleted i understand, but to me i will abandon android if it fails to prosper by the community like true open source software is intended.
[G1 General] Gary13579:
Give it time, there are work arounds for ROM makers. Google distributes these applications freely, which means all ROM developers have to do is remove those apps from the ROMs, and give you an application which installs them.

The Android scene is not dead. This sucks, but we will get over it, even without Google's help.
[G1 General] gospeed.racer:
*edit, gary beat me to it..this is in re: to the original post

your not reading before you type...

Google is pissed about him including certain components that were not official yet or closed source. We get over that, and we are back in business. Everyone is way over-reacting, just wait...they will get it figured out. He just cant legally be quite so cutting-edge anymore:o
[G1 General] ~~Tito~~:
I've hard talks of a script that will automatically DL the apps that aren't allowed, I hope that happens soon :cool:.
[G1 General] rondey-:
I understand work arounds and what not but do i not have the legal right to use googles closed source apps now that i bought my g1? It is like buying a new car from ford and then ford telling manufacturers of aftermarket products (like air filters or tires) they cant sell them because ford owns the patent to the left head light circuit and it in some legal sense interfers.

A new set of tires on my car is just as damn harmful as using a cyanogen made rom on my phone. I own the hardware, i should be able to do with it as i see fit. Cyanogen doesnt make his roms available to those who dont already own an android licensed product and doesnt do his work for profit that google doesnt see.

They have a legal right yes, but why excersize that legal right when only those who support you already (and if you download cm roms you will more then likely be a future supporter) will end up with the crap end of the stick.

All the crap recently with apple and google voice i have thought to myself that apple will be getting what they deserve by sure to come fines from the fcc. Now google punches us all in the stomache for supporting them and their alledged open source cause. None of us here, including cyanogen, did any actual wrong. If it plays out how it is apparent they want it, everyone loses.
[G1 General] jmon777:
our could we just not back up and put theme proper place in the update zips?
[G1 General] jashsu:
Your analogy is flawed because software cannot be treated the same as tangible items. Anyway, the issue at hand is not your license to use Google's closed-source apps, it is the unauthorized distribution of these apps by "ROM" cooks.
[G1 General] danguyf:
It's more than just a few apps that are closed source, though; many of the fundamental pieces that allow the phones to function are proprietary, such as sync, the LED control, the radio control... Take it all out and you have a phone that can't phone.
[G1 General] Johnny Blaze:
You really need to listen to the previous post. Anything that is required for our phones to run is not at question. Mod and distribute away. Led control , radio control, is not at question.

"That’s why we developed Android apps for many of our services like YouTube, Gmail, Google Voice, and so on. These apps are Google’s way of benefiting from Android in the same way that any other developer can, but the apps are not part of the Android platform itself. We make some of these apps available to users of any Android-powered device via Android Market, and others are pre-installed on some phones through business deals. Either way, these apps aren’t open source, and that’s why they aren’t included in the Android source code repository. Unauthorized distribution of this software harms us just like it would any other business, even if it’s done with the best of intentions."

Its the apps that are in question, not the underlying drivers, api's, libraries. So please and anyone else let's not overreact. Lets try to each help find a way to make this a non issue.
[G1 General] Gary13579:
Actually, LED, radio, SPL... that's all HTC's property. Even the leaked NBH files that allowed this scene to flourish solely belong to HTC.

So although Google's decision does not affect them, they still fall under the same category of "oh crap...".
[G1 General] RueTheDay:
This is bad news. The phone is essentially useless without the Gmail app (for sign-in on initial boot as well as contact sync) and Android Market (for downloading any apps). Then take Google Maps out of the picture, and may as well throw the phone out and get an iPhone. At a minimum, this means the days of custom ROMs are over.
[G1 General] nolimit78:
This is actually not true at all. The Gmail app is something that is currently being worked on. Google maps isn't that great (but it's available in the market) Like it's been said, give it time. This is just a hiccup that we'll all get over. Soon.
[G1 General] jashsu:
Your hyperbole not only singles you out as an ignorant fool, it also highlights the fact you have no idea where the true innovations in Android are. It is not having native GMail or Youtube clients (which are nice), it is in things like dalvik and the ipc framework. These are pieces of code that do not have anything to do with whether Google apps are present or not on the phone (or if it even is a phone).
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blueheeler:
With all the uproar we've been experiencing, I started playing around with Bing more and more. I really do like it ... I like it a lot.

Does anyone know how to change the default search engine?

I have Cyanogenmod running on my phone, we have xROM running on another.

I know how to change the home page, that isn't an issue. I would just like to switch all search to Bing if at all possible.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] Unconnectedd:
Hello, how can i get a fully transparent slider bar? so that it just likes i have a sorta dock/row of icons accross the bottom of my telephone device, is there a cab that may do this for me?

Thanks
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] gengt:
Look at this threat http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=502799
[G1 General] lbcoder:
Few things about the Android as background;

1) Android is open source and is enough to run a device on its own.

1a) People will argue that it isn't, that proprietary binaries are required. This is a *hardware dependent* argument. Blame HTC for having proprietary closed source binaries. 'Droid works fine on an openmoko using all open source software. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android

2) Not all of what is on your phone is actually part of AOSP, i.e. *market*, *gmail*, etc.

3) Open and closed source components can exist in the same system without conflict.

4) Any particular organization can develop BOTH open AND closed source components, and these can, in fact, exist in the same system without conflict.

The situation:

Cyanogen has been issued a cease and desist order by Google related to inclusion of closed source Google apps in "CyanogenMod ROMs".

The legal situation: These closed source apps are not licensed to Cyanogen for redistribution. Google does have the legal right to restrict distribution of said apps.

Why now: The most obvious recent change that could have prompted this order to happen now is the inclusion of the as-of-yet unreleased MARKET app. This market app, being unreleased, is in an unknown state. This app may not be finished testing, i.e., it may be quite buggy, to the point where it could do all kinds of nasty things, like MULTIPLE-CHARGING of customer's when they buy paid apps, releasing payment and/or account information to unauthorized targets, failure to put secure apps into secure locations or other vulnerability allowing easy copying of protected apps, OR OTHER vulnerabilities. That being the case, Google may be *WORRIED ABOUT POTENTIAL PROBLEMS* in the new market app (rightly, as it may not have completed testing and/or may have KNOWN issues).

Why the order against *all* closed-source apps: This is simple. How can they order the removal of *just one*? If they order the removal of *just* the new market app, the legal implication is that the other closed source apps *can* be redistributed, i.e. precedence is 9/10ths of the law -- they would be closing the door on the enforcement of those apps in the future, i.e., for security reasons since regarding the closed source apps, Google is legally liable for their correct function.

So would the ignorant people talking about how evil Google is for doing this, PLEASE STOP spewing your mouths off regarding things that YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND? You're not helping anybody.
[G1 General] xsnipuhx:
EVERYONE should read this.
[G1 General] gospeed.racer:
I will admit, this post made me re-think what is really going on. He is just the first to get a finger shook at him, the rest will follow unless the developers and Google get stuff squared away.
[G1 General] oshizzle1991:
i still think google is acting like asswholes though.
[G1 General] your_helpfull_hand:
I do to but thank you for looking at things clearly unlike alot of other people inlcuding my self at first but once i started thinking about the new market i understood google
[G1 General] evilmerlin:
Just curious here but can an open source app be developed to access Market? Or are the codes for accessing Market closed?
[G1 General] dan0zone:
Makes sense now, Google Just don't want to be responsible for something like customer's info being stolen.. and have the masses calling or infront of their door with pitch forks inhand,,
[G1 General] marlopainter:
Then,

Why didn't Google say this?

Instead, they patronize and belittle the community.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4609612&postcount=3

I don't mean to attack the OP with this post.

It's just a question.
[G1 General] DKYang:
Most likely because they are a dev or a lawyer. They just don't like speaking English. They have to say it all complicated and then have someone else translate it for them.
[G1 General] roguestatuskat:
i think that this is from a stupid lawyer team, and google just sent it for legal reasons, i think the dev team has nothing to do with this.... isnt this why the created android, to have an open source platform.... i think Cyanogen and google just need to come to a compromise, either that or we just dont use googles apps even though half of them have better counterparts in the market
[G1 General] rondey-:
i do know this, the law is the law. Is the law always perfect, hell no. Cyanogen did no wrong. He helped out every single one of us running an android powered phone.

Could something wrong happen with an experimental build? Ofcourse. That is why he has his own disclaimer. If you are smart enough to root your phone, you should be smart enough to realize potential dangers in running leaked and/or experimental code.

Google is being a douchebag for their actions. Htc doesnt issue cease and desist orders for all of you running hero and that directly involves their sales in their phones. How many windows mobile roms are on this xda forum? How many have been ordered by microsoft to stop distributing their work?

To me it is ridiculous google is doing this. I know they are legally right but that doesnt mean they should screw us early adopters of their software with lame and slow updates and a product that is obviously inferior to the coding and development of one man with the help of a few others.

The reason i bought my g1 instead of an iphone or windows mobile phone was because of this community. Now all of us have had the benefits of cyanogen in one way or another. I dont want to be a douchebag as well and not speak up for a man who has helped me out when he had no reason to do so