[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe Bleau:
Re: Donation to Chefs & App Creators Links & Thanks

I knew some of you would distort my post about thanking "The creators of major useful apps and tweaks..." in the Energy ROMs with straw man arguments & distortion of what I posted or imagined intentions I had by posting it. Wrath was expected for a simple request that seems so obvious to me.

@ hefman:

"There are literally thousands of users who have contributed to rom flashing, tools and apps in all sorts of ways that are used by many chefs. Would you suggest NRG recognize each and every one of them" - No, I never wrote that unreasonable request. I wrote: "The creators of major useful apps and tweaks..." :rolleyes:

"None of us know whether NRG donates to any of the developers of the tools he uses. In my opinion, that is between him and them." - I never talked about that subject & don't care if he donates or not. :p

"I have yet to see one developer come on here and complain that he is not being given proper credit." - Well I'm doing it for them now. It's not only an attribution request which is the decent thing to do IMO, it's also about having links for users to dig more info about the apps and be able to say thanks to them and tip them too. What, they don't like beer or coffee too? Sure, one can individually do all the detective work and track down all the apps but it's the chef's job to do a measly 1 post or 1 page on his site to say thanks to the people he is standing on.

Heck, Newton did it in 1676 and he is only more admirable for that IMO. From this page:

"As one who used to cook roms regularly... I can tell you it is not easy" - What part of that phrase in my post would you like me to clarify further: "Not to diminish in anyway the value of the work done by a chef..."? :confused:

"...it's just that your tone in this post makes it sound as if you think NRG is somehow just cashing in on their work." - Again putting words in my mouth which I NEVER wrote. :mad:

@ mmalka:

"To insinuate that the work of NRGZ is just a mere compilation of someone else's work..." - Again putting words in my mouth which I NEVER wrote. :mad: What I wrote is: "Not to diminish in anyway the value of the work done by a chef when he puts together a ROM + his tweaks...".

"It is HIS ROM, like it or not. He spends lots of hours working on it... why don't we all go and create our own ROMs" - I never said he's not putting in hard work. That argument is irrelevant to the request for thanks & links to creators like Laurentius26 does in his ROM thread for example.

"...complaining that people don't click enough on his "thank you" button... oversized ego of an undersized mind..." - Totally irrelevant to my thanks to creators request. Typical character assassination technique instead of discussing the idea on the table. Like in the Fair Game movie about the disclosing of the wife's CIA agent status instead of replying to the husbands report about the supposed yellow cake story.

Note that since I have been coaxing people to hit the Thanks button when one finds a post useful, many of you got much more of them. ;) My tiny ad does not say click on my posts only. :rolleyes:

Sadly as one can see in the posts above this one, it's used by some to vote on opinions instead of a tool to point out the posts that one finds really helpful with tips that worked for them, contributions or pointers to valuable apps or stuff.

"No one here is obligated to recognize NRGZ's work or tip him, but lets at least show respect..." - I did say thanks many times and donated twice to NRGZ28. Could you quote for me please a phrase in a post showing disrespect to the chef? :confused:

If some of you approve my point of view on this subject, don't be afraid of the reaction & please contribute. I'm talking about this on page #1 amongst other things for example. Compare to the Laurentius26 quote in my post above: