yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Not at all, my apologies if I also came across that way. I'm just one of those that tend to keep quiet until I have some sort of quantifiable proof that it is actually working for me or there is actually a problem. So, I will usually defend a finding to the end if necessary, heh.

BTW, I updated the response to your initial post above. If you haven't edited your FLASHDRV\FATFS, check it out yourself. Your data/fatcachesize should be 0 already, but you will see if you check SDMEMORY\FATFS, they are at dword 800/100 respectively. This 800/100 was in fact used previously for FLASHDRV\FATFS as well. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Reclaim:
*delete* Sorry, I spoke too soon! Just spent a couple of hours catching up! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Reclaim:
BUMP! I would just like to bring this back up. Been researching/testing the AVRCP idea that was suggested. Doesn't seem to be it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] monomer888:
Congratulations! I think I like Sense 2.5 too much though! :o

Personally, I'm not really someone who's obsessed with freeing as much RAM up as possible just for the sake of it - RAM is there to be used after all. I'd be happy with enough RAM to run my programs and not have the system slow down, or crash. Ideally I'd like to 'set and forget' and let the system do the job for me, and that's why I'm keen on testing out cmd512's tweaks. I also like using a nice-looking smooth-running interface and in that sense, the Energy ROMs suit my needs very nicely!

Much appreciated, NRGZ. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
With August 4th and 6th Cookie 23673 I connect fine with my Tilt 2 to a Pioneer 7000 BT car stereo.

Music works.

Calls work

A2DP controls work.

Life is beautiful.

To elliminate the version difference, try the 23xxx series. You can always go back. Just flash it for test purposes.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
I use it when it comes out, otherwise I use the standard version.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Reclaim:
Thank you sir! I think I will try that. In fact, I have never flashed GTX either. I think I'll try that too! I'm excited :) will post after I test! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
+1, yup...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wmg316:
Ok...I gave it a try. No longer skeptical. I changed the reg values and with above normal usage (testing) I do seem to have 8 - 15 MB of gain!

The only thing that I did different than your suggested tweaks is set HKLM\System\StorageManager\Profiles\FLASHDRV\FATFS\DataCacheSize to 2048 since there was no CacheFilt key under HKLM\System\StorageManager\Profiles\FLASHDRV\FATFS\Filters. The post you referenced stated to set to 0 (zero) if this key was present; since it was not there, I left at 2048.

I will play around with it for a few days and see how it goes....

I have a NOOB question. In your reg file you have this entry: "CacheSize"=-

Will the " - " delete that key? I manually set the values before realizing that you had posted the reg file.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Army_Spec_Ops:
i have a question... whats the Text Scroll panel in the MaxSense widgets? is there anything planned for that or whats it supposed to do? (i know thats probably the reason why its called that but i was thinking that it showed my sms but it doesnt do anything...)

and any thoughts on a Black version of GTX?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
I was very skeptical of this as well.

NRGZ28 is a very experienced chef and actually used a Touch Pro 2 until he got his HD2. It takes alot of first hand experience before I accept any tweak or adjustment to his ROMs.

But, I decided to try it. I noticed that I do have more memory available afte a soft rest. My last soft reset immediately before this, I had 63 MB available. After applying this, I soft reset and had 64 MB. That was not a a large enough difference to convince me.

But, then I started cycling through the tabs. After letting it sit, I seem to level out at abut 55 MB. At work, I was monitoring this without the fix. Before the fix, I was leveling off at about 45 MB.

So, it is very possible that this has improved my available memory.

Initially, the Facebook tab seems less snappy now. In general, each tab seemed to take longer to load than before the fix.

It seemed like it was a perfomance verses ram balance.

But, later the tabs started being more responsive again.

As I right this, I've been playing with it. It now is leveled off at 54 MB.

I think I won't really be sure until a few days of use, but it seems promising. I hope it's not a placebo.

[EDIT]

After using the lock screen (not cookie, just the normal lock screen), it is leveling off at 48 MB.

And then using the document tab, it is now leveling off at 44 MB.

I had done all of that prior to checking it today at work.

So, I am starting to think it is a placebo. I really hoped it was real.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wagool:
My 23673.co0kie.Aug.06 working all fine now.And my battery life is so long for 3 days(24h) since flashed!haha:D:D

Thank you NRGZ,you are great man!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] osrix:
I just flashed the dec04 21877 but i'm confused where is the Manilla wallpaper???

Anyone:confused: I have the energy wallpaper in the start menu and on boot before sense loads but then defaut black and i cant change it.

does anyone know how to fix??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alik4041:
On the today page, there is a "Menu" button on the bottom right > Home wallpaper
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jpoirier587:
i think he means where is the wallpaper that nrgz usually uses. im pretty sure it was taken out because it was causing problems of some sort. im sure you could recreate it using hdwall
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] osrix:
Nice one thanks guys!! i guess that answers my next question if HD wall created cabs work with NRGs ROMS..

Thanks Again :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alik4041:
I'm having some minor problems with 21877. GPS in google maps isn't finding a satellite and the top right drop down on the today page will send me to notifications when I have a program running. I think I'm gonna try the newer build.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] beerbaronstatic:
I had the same issue, I'm downloading the 28008 build right now
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alik4041:
Just tried the new one. Reverting back to 21877 lol. I must say, the rom is simply amazing, but I don't know how to fix this GPS problem. The notification thing is out of my control probably, but I'm sure the GPS issue I can solve. I've tried com4 at 9600 and at 56700. Anyone know what it should be for t-mobile version if that makes a difference?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Seifer1975:
on the 28008 build, the memory utilisation is so high it is almost unusable. have 2 questions here i hope somebody can help

1. in settings -- memory, the available program memory is only 175mb. why is that so since our rhodium supposed to have 288mb ram?

2. upon startup, the rom uses almost 110mb already. which leaves me with only 60mb usable memory. and with the well-known memory leaks of wm6.5, i cant get by a day without running out of memory.

anyone can help?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] osrix:
Prolly no use as i'm in uk but GPS working fine, fast lock on both TT and Google maps. So it must be fixable for you guys on tmob usa
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] 30Glock:
Well I just tried GPS I am on 28008, and i got a fast lock really fast and I am on tmobile, Mine worked right out the box, no tweaking.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alik4041:
Good to know, I'll see what I can mess around with.

I'm thinking about testing a whole bunch of roms and writing a review. In the past 5 hours I've installed 5 different ones lol.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kmx:
Google Maps gets updated to version 3.3 for Windows Mobile

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009...o-version-3-3-for-windows-mobile-and-symbian/

I downloaded it and let me say it's much faster.

Can you include it in your next rom update NRGZ28. Thank you.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bknewtype:
help with palringo and shortcut

having a slight problem here. i install palringo and it runs fine. i also set it up as a shortcut. few mintues later, when i try to run the program in the shortcut, it tells me "error opening shortcut or locating target file". i run it from the start menu and it runs fine. then later on, when i run the program int he start menu, it tells me its not a valid application. i uninstall and reinstall, and everything loops. works for a few minutes, then shrotcut dies, then the program doesnt run. anyone else encoutnered this problem?

another thing is when i hit the task manager in the top right corner it shows me the programs running but then immediately shoes me the notificatiosn tab.

also im using build 21877
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xavier1022:
Task Manager & Notification Bar

HEY ME TOO!! Notification Tab also shows when I hit the task manager...

It goes away after u restart but comes back after a while..... I guess the Notification bar has some authority issues with the task MANAGER... get it?... lol.... forget you guys....anyways Ive turned off the notifications and turned them on again, Ill report back to see if that worked.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Freddy2Fred:
Does anyone has a cab that can recieve the pictures big on the mms. I tested by sending a pic to my own phone and i recieve it small. I put it to 1mb but that dirint work.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Damager:
Have you upgraded to the latest... radio ROM?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alik4041:
yea 4.49.25.17

I simply don't think I get a signal being in my house. I haven't gotten any luck with other roms either, so that's it. I still don't understand why the notifications is messing up though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] esincho:
I think this what U lookin 4.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dogsag:
Screenshots

EnergyRom 28008​
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Freddy2Fred:
that dirint work... im using the manilla 2.5
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Yep, you got it! The - after the key will tell registry importer to delete it completely. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wmg316:
After reading the original poster's information at PPC Geeks, I used the following settings:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS]
"CacheSize"=-

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS\Filters\CacheFilt]
"LockIOBuffers"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Filters\fsreplxfilt]
"ReplStoreDoImmaculate"=dword:00000001
"ReplStoreCacheSize"=dword:0000[B]4096[/B]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\FLASHDRV\FATFS]
"EnableFatCacheWarm"=dword:00000001
"UpdateAccess"=dword:00000000
"FatCacheSize"=dword:00000000
"DataCacheSize"=dword:0000[B]2048[/B]
"EnableWriteBack"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\SDMemory\FATFS]
"EnableFatCacheWarm"=dword:00000001
"FatCacheSize"=dword:00000000
"DataCacheSize"=dword:00000000
"EnableCache"=dword:00000001
"EnableWriteBack"=dword:00000001
"UpdateAccess"=dword:00000000

As I said...I did have a little bit of an improvement with these settings. I was leveling out around 33MB to 40MB before the tweaks; and now after:

Locking / unlocking 3 times

Moving to Music tab and starting and stopping a song

Going to weather tab and updating weather

Going to Photo tab and opening the album

Starting browsing session

Closing anything that was opened above

I am at 47MB
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wmg316:
Yes...thanks...while I was waiting...I manually added back the key and ran the reg edit and saw that it deleted

Good to learn something new!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Chinam4n:
I've been using Energy Rom ever since I got my Touch Pro 2. I love using it, it has nice performances and style. But ever since I updated to August 6 of Cookie Dinik Glass 21911, when I'm on any of the lockscreens, sometimes when I receive a phone call, my phone wakes up to a black screen. It only shows the soft keys, and the notification bar. It does not show whos calling nor the sliding to answer. After the phone call ends, it just stays on the black screen with the soft keys and notification bar. Does anybody else get this and knows how to fix this? The only way I figure it out is to do a soft reset.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Ok. To report my findings. Initially, as mentioned in my morning's conversation : I am indeed seeing a 4-5 MB difference after the cache settings + PP size to 14 (vs the cooked in 16). So I started close to 70MB after a soft reset. I use MaxSense where all selected the tabs don't get auto loaded like regular sense 2.5 or CHT. I have Weather & Calendar on my home and so these were pre-allocated.

Things went south pretty quickly after I started using my other tabs. Effectively, Sense 2.5 was allocating memory for each tab and holding the memory even after I moved away from the tab (HTC probably decided in favor of caching loaded objects forever to improve speed). The biggest culprit I saw was the Mail tab. I have 6 accounts (including 1 exchange/autosync) and I lost 6 MB as soon as I opened Mail. I disabled the Mail tab and set MaxSense to open the WM6.5 "Messages" app instead (I like both and use both interchangeably). After making this change, my memory stayed pretty constant around 65.

But slowly interacting with the other tabs : Twitter, FB, Weather, Bluetooth, MS Voice Command, Bing/GMM, Opera etc the memory started going down (in < 1MB chunks) and did not get released back automatically. Tried CleanRAM, but when it worked it wasn't able to release much and so the leak continued. So decided to start closing apps/processes with ArkSwitch and Dutty's Task Manager. As expected, I got small gains, but soon the leak started getting bigger. I was down to around 52MB in ~5 hrs.

Interestingly, I could not account for who was taking the memory - GWES stayed constant around 32MB, as did device.exe. filesys.exe and other system components. So I've done another reset and monitoring memory without doing any more manual killing. Will update on how this goes.

(as has been stressed many times before : more sense tabs, less memory. I Like Sense 2.5 too much to go for broke, but then I'm OK with taking out the more memory hungry tabs. the Mail tab was a no brainer as I like the WM Inbox anyway. Looking for more such savings now. Have only the following tabs enabled: Stocks, Album, twitter, Document Tabs, Calendar, Weather, FB, Settings.)

A big Thanks! to cmd512 for responding to me and getting all of us started on this track this morning..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Sure thing, I just discovered that recently as I delete a ton of junk from the registry on a fresh ROM install. Used to do it by hand, but a bunch of Value:- now gets rid of all of them in one quick swoop. :D

Yeah, I had no luck trying to get MaxSense from eating up my RAM. Last one I used was a late June release, and while it was cool to play with, I couldn't get RAM from leeching away... and quickly at that!

Good point on the CleanRAM... I don't even bother with it. I'm almost certain it basically flushed out the cache created with CacheSize, and given I don't use that and haven't used a large cache in quite some time, I'd always get 1 MB of RAM freed up... a complete waste of time for me at least.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
After changing to those settings, I am seeing similer results. Nothing too impressive.

I am really thinking that the results are related to the actions using the phone and less to do with these settings. That chunk of memory that the lock screen takes up is kind of crazy. I only see it bite the chunk once, not with each lock though.

I'm going to leave it with the settings that you posted for the rest of the night and tomorrow.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dafunk60:
I am running the same rom you have in your sig, Energy.RHODIUM.23673.Sense2.5.Cookie.GTX.Aug.07 but do not have that issue with the mail tab. I did see that in the Aug.06 GTX ROMs however.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MerlF:
Times New Roman

Hi NRG

I notice a number of new fonts added to the ROM's. Is it difficult for you to add in the Times New Roman font.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Agreed, if I just flashed a ROM straight up, I would be in the 30 MB range within a few hours of heavy use. While these settings don't get rid of the RAM drain completely, they definitely slow it down enough where frequent soft resets are no longer required.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
True, MaxSense is a work in progress.. :p NRGZ28's Dinik + GTK is really amazing to look at visually (very pretty, hehe), and so I was playing with that (& so CHT) after quite a while. Memory usage seemed more stable. Love the looks, but I miss some of the MaxSense functionality and keep going back. Maxcy's work is very radical - I hope he has the time to complete it and reveal the design's full potential..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wmg316:
OK...Now down to 44MB (ran settings export; ran CHTEditor to backup CHT settings; edited some quicklinks)

Granted, a lot of the things I'm doing are not a "normal days usage"...so I will be watching over the next couple of days....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Yeah, I still have my MaxSense settings exported and stored. Hope to try one of the newer releases very soon and give it a go again. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] TechKit:
Bug note

Hi all,

Just writing to report a small bug, soft resets seem to fix everything in the end though.

The bug I have encountered is that the microphone stops working when loudspeaker is turned on when making or receiving a phone call. (eg. other end of the phone call cannot hear me.) It seems after all the below stuff is done, the problem occurs How I use the phone until it starts happening:

I use the phone during the day with a bluetooth headset, turning on and off the headset a few times a day

I occasionally turn on and off the phones bluetooth and phone connection (effectively aeroplane mode)

I put the phone in aeroplane mode during the night (always using the phone and bluetooth toggle-switches in sense)

I then turn on the phone and bluetooth hardware using the sense toggle switches and with no headset connected I make/receive a call. This is when the problem occurs. I can hear audio normally but then I switch to loudspeaker and the person on the other end cannot hear me. I triple-checked the problem to make sure I wasn't going crazy.

I'm using energyrom 23673 (cookie) August 6th. If I've missed something, let me know, lol.

P.S

Love these ROMs!:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Well, I'm not sure if you've had your device long enough to see how low your RAM would get to after a normal day's use, but to make it apples to apples, why not do a soft reset before you go to bed tonight and just put it through a "normal day's use" tomorrow? I know when I used the ROM fresh out of the box, it would be in the 30MB range for sure. After these setting changes, it doesn't dip that low after only a days use.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
now that u mention it. that too contributed in my going to 52MB rather quickly. so trying to simulate "normal" usage this time..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wmg316:
I always used the "CHT Lockscreen" on my Fuze and never encountered the problems that I read about in the CHT thread (black screens; freezing; etc...).

When I moved to the Tilt 2, I noticed that NRGZ28 had the CHT Lockscreen disabled by default...so the first thing I did was enable the CHT Lockscreen...Manila Locker.

My first few minutes were great...but inevitably...I encountered all of the horror stories I read about the freezing...the black screens...etc...

SOLUTION:

Don't use CHT Lockscreen on Rhodium.

I disabled; started using WM Lockscreen....never has frozen or "black-screened" again!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
I have been doing exactly that for the last 2 releases (Dinik/GTX). MaxSense is always last in the release cycle. :( and NRGs goodies are too hard to resist.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wmg316:
Oh yes...that is my plan.

Don't get me wrong...I'm not trying to discount what you say...I am seeing a difference because if I did what I've done over the last hour before these tweaks...I know for a fact (like 2 days ago!!!) that I would be down to about 20MB...and couldn't even launch Opera (speaking from experience there!)

I do plan on a "normal day" tomorrow (unless of course NRG puts out a new one!) :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wmg316:
It's just sooooooo hard to have "normal usage" with these things :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
LOL, why is that we keep interpreting what we're saying negatively?! I know you're not trying to discount what I'm saying... trust me, I also have the drive to want to push and really test any new tweaks, which means usually doing all sorts of nutty stuff I probably wouldn't do in a day or two. Just saying for me, the biggest change has been instead of a soft reset every day or two, I can wait every 3-4 days before maybe needing one.

You and I need to sit down for a beer or something, bury this nonexistent animosity with some brewskie. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] raz1337:
Yeah, with the whole thing about the battery needing a few full normal discharges to recalibrate, it's pretty tough sometimes to do that with a new rom coming out every few days. :)

Still running my setup and stable. The only issue I'm seeing is sometimes the taskbar completely disappears, which I think happens at times right after using the camera. Pulling the keyboard in and out fixes it. I just love the wifi router. I was walking around a university taking pictures of filming locations this morning and the only wifi for my laptop was for students. But, mmm...wait! My phone is it's own wifi hotspot! :D

I wanted to change my call button to open the contact list rather than recent calls list, but this keyboard config program is a little more complicated than I thought. :mad:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] oakvnl:
THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wmg316:
LOL! I just see so many rude comments around here and I don't want to be known as coming off that way!!! Since I'm new here...I don't want to step on any long-timer's toes. I'll loosen up!

(Next time the wife and I ride down to the hill country...I may take you up on the brewskie!!) ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chrislynch:
Can anyone please post a working mirror? I need to download Energy.RHODIUM.23673.Sense2.5.Aug.04.7z. Thank you.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] raz1337:
http://f1ip.net/Downloads/RhodiumFiles/Roms/EnergyRom/Energy.RHODIUM.23673.Sense2.5.Aug.04.7z

For anyone else, all of NRG's roms are mirrored here:

http://f1ip.net/plug.php?e=index&f=./Downloads/RhodiumFiles/Roms/EnergyRom
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chrislynch:
THANK YOU!!!