yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kosuki:
so long time waiting

I wander when the CABfile can be released?!I can't wait any longer
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] teixeirabmb:
Cab file? I doubt it! It would be huge...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] davidporter1010:
single manila? :confused:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] reaverclan:
i hope this comes soon "drools"
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] one80oneday:
I tried your ROM but I think it was GSM and I have Sprint CDMA. I believe the video was JMZ's ROM but don't remember cus it was so late last night when I did it. Anyway I got the full screen mod idea after seeing what posts you've viewed lol. I've wanted full screen tf3d since it came out. Love your work man! Keep it up! I'm here for testing or anything else if you need!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vader165:
we need this. this is what it is all about

http://pocketnow.com/software-1/touchflo-3d-25-build-1919-brings-many-new-features
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] qmt49:
Yes, that looks very exciting. The Twitter tab looks fantastic, and the e-mail tab has finally been changed to what it should have been all along. Hopefully it will be possible to get these features at some point. Good luck to the team! :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] violentz313:
Packages: SOON!

Cabs: SOON!

Why would it say that then if there was no cab coming.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fb401:
Devs have already decompiled it and are working on it around the internet but it's going to take a while before someone has something tangible. It's A LOT of work.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] emresumengen:
That's something bothering me too, as I do prefer WM6.1...

And this is a more than welcome answer :)

By "something tangible", you mean VGA port I guess. As we all can see, the pocketnow video was on a Touch Pro 2, instead of Leo hardware (which I'm waiting eagerly).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mshnayde:
There was talk of something being out this weekend. But looks like that won't be the case as no new announcements have been made. Bummer...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] MAMBO04:
would it be possible to port this to WQVGA?

just curious cause i'm sure many people would love a new M2D version for their Omnia for example.

awesome work by the way :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Asphyx:
The original is WVGA...no need to port just go get the original that these guys are using to make the VGA version.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dwizzy130:
He was asking for WQVGA not WVGA. And to answer his question:

1) This is not Manila 2D. This is TouchFlo3D.

2) Even if it were possible to port it to WQVGA, the Omnia doesn't have drivers that would allow it to work... Just like the TouchFlo3D port to QVGA for the Kaiser a long time ago...

dwizzy130
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] :
These are the files That I have already posted, These are the files that are in there. So they should have the files right now,
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Asuba:
CABs

So come soon CABs for installation Manila 2.5. It will therefore be possible to install every ROM?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Thejackal_71:
Is there a language pack for Manila 2.5 ?

can you post it ?

thanks :rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] systdow666:
fuze keymap doesnt work with latest release and just curious does this rom have access to the settings menu of windows or what
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] cost3225:
to systdow666: if you go to settings tab on manila there is an option of "more settings" or something like that which takes you to windows settings

Weren't the cabs expected this weekend? I'm really looking forward to them!!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] supersobbie:
Yes they were. But we have to be patient... Also with 2.5 HTC has added many of the windows settings directly in TF3D so it could be said that you may not need windows setting anymore.

Thanks,

SoBBie

PS Yes I am trying to wait but I REALLY want to try it on my FUZE :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] supersobbie:
Double Post... SOrry about that.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joao2307:
Waiting patiently

I have been waiting for this one as well,

Fantastic work guys.. you are the best...thanks for the hard work.

JP
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] awaisanwaar:
hi! i really like your this thread and your work :)

dude can i know that when you would release your cooked rom + manila 2.5 for wwe gsm mobiles ?

I am desperately waiting for this :P
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] :
Patience is a Virtue.

This is a huge project, and by huge I mean HUGE, I would say there is over 200 hours of time invested into this project. It is not alight task, the files will get done and will be out.

If it is in 2 weeks oir 4 weeks, they will still be done. the big thing to look at is, this is coming to you by PPC lovers, people that are spending free time to do this, and it is not coming from HTC, so give it time and it will be done.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joao2307:
CDMA or GSM ...or Both???

Will this work on both Networks (CDMA and GSM)

thanks

JP
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vido.ardes:
The manila software itself isn't network specific, although you must be careful and make sure that the ROM you install is for your device, as the ROM's will be. You will turn you device into an expensive paperweight if you flash the wrong one.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fb401:
Don't forget to mention that there are 3000+ files that each need to be decompiled, understood, classified, edited, re-compiled and tested one by one.

People need to imagine spending an average of 25 to 30 minutes on EACH file. That's A LOT of time. Now of course all files aren't code files, but this is still something that's a gargantuan project and I am ecstatic that a TEAM is working together to bang this out quickly and efficiently.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kholk:
If they integrate Manila2.5 into their ROMs, they have the right EXT packages.

If it works in their ROMs, it'll even work in other cooked ROMs.

I don't realize why they haven't posted any EXT or CAB.

This is the second thread for advertising their work, we're waiting for more than one month for having these packages. And i don't even realize why they're advertising their work if they won't post it. Making new threads titled "Manila2.5 VGA Port" won't automatically post the work.

This isn't for flaming, but me and I think other chefs/users, we've ben waiting for too long and we're tired of waiting for existing packages to be posted when only god knows.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] muttim86:
There is a second thread because there was a union between me and and another team, so we have unified the forces in a new thread, for reasons of convenience ...

certainly many more things that now work at the beginning, as shown here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NziguhIrQHM

but we also have private lifes, not only XDA and porting.

okay so if you have patience, if you have patience you can get the kitchen of Manila, is located on XDA and begin to reverse engineer the file.

nobody forces you to do a port too. :p

I hope this will be very clear, I hope you have patience. and all you have manila 2.5. ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kidoucorp:
+1, all the ones thinking porting Manila to VGA is easy should do it themselves, otherwise, just wait without asking if it will become available soon, I think we'll all be informed when it's done...

Sun-CM Team have made theses threads to inform us on their work (in the case someone started porting it alone, he could join the Sun-CM Team).

So please, stop asking or doubting about this port, it's very boring to see the same posts for almost 12 pages, remember that 2 months ago we were stuck with the beta TF3D2.0 from xbmod, and we are now using GenY's one which is already a good TF3D2. 1 port, and the 2.5 should come shortly (I hope too :D)

And as Muttim said, everybody has a life beside XDA...

Cheers
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joao2307:
No fighting!!

Guys ..guys...

I am in the group (everyone, but i have never asked for a time frame for the release of the CABS ) dying to get my hands on the wonderful work that this team has created. But when "WE" ask for an idea of time for the release of the CAB files.. we are not trying to disrespect the work that they have done... or saying that they work too slow. We just want to know if it is worth to install a new ROM or wait for the CAB files...

I am not a programmer or a graphics editor or Genius (cause i think that these guys are really that) so I have no idea how long it takes to port something like this. But I can tell you one thing, I could never do it...so I am "patiently" waiting for these guys to give there time for others.

Thank you for all the work and we will be here even if it takes 2 or 3 months Since i do not intend to switch my TP for the TP2, i think i will wait for the LEO....

JP
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gdp2000:
I would like to know what has happened with the extra people boxes on the home and people tab? I do understand that they do not fit on the screen, but are they removed from the manila files or are they scaled down or something else? I am asking, besause I think they are taking extra drawing time and if they can be removed completely from Manila it should get faster?

I've seen some of the demo vids. I think you guys are aware of the aspect ratio problems, wrong size and position of the photos and the footprint items. Is this on the plan? And the switching animation when clicking on a footprint?

I am not pushing any fixes here. Hope this did not get posted already.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kholk:
@muttim86:

I'm respecting your work and the work of both your and german team, but we've only asked for an ETA and you/your team never replied.

I know that the porting of manila is a time eater, I tried to port it myself and for porting only the engine it took me a lot of work, so I abandoned.

Yeah, you all have your real lives, but, I repeat, we only asked for an ETA.

Ouh, and in the last post I was meaning that you could have posted the old manila version as beta, instead of promising it and never postin' it.

Uploading EXT packages will take 1/50 of the time for porting other manila modules, and you can upload it in the background, while you work on porting. It's easy.

Anyway, respectfully to your work, I'm waiting.

I hope that you'll give us EXT packages before we die! (I'm only kidding.. hahah)

Have a good work :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Asphyx:
Here is my advice....

Download one of the existing ROMs, dump it and you will have your package you can burn into your rom.

Mutti had been working for most of that month you have been waiting by himself. The collaboration is a relatively new development that is less than a week or two old.

I just do not understand how people can complain about a package not being rush released!

If they aren't done then releasing now will only leave you with a buggy implementation anyway! trust me your friends will think Manila 2.5 is just as cool a week from now as they will if they saw it today! In fact they might even think it's cooler a week from now because it won't crash on you when your in the middle of showing it off to them because you got a working version not some rushed version!

There is really only ONE way to meet your personal deadline for release....

DO IT YOURSELF!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rwcj63:
agreed sir.

typically i just lurk around but i thought this time i would actually post my thoughts (as welcome or unwelcome as they may be).

i've been watching this thread with much interest and anticipation and it is truly mind bogling (not sure i spelled that correctly) of the folks that are griping that the cabs haven't been released yet. as has been mentioned many times, this is a very complicated task that these fine gentlemen have taken on and while i'm very excited about this and want it just as bad as anyone else, i will happily wait as long as it takes and am very thankful that these folks have donated their time and efforts to this project.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Tenny:
Looks like it's coming along well!

Great job guys
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] TMartin:
A dump and rebuild on the new version has been difficult. On the first port, I got it on the second try. This new build is pretty tough.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kisja:
There is an eta!!!!

AS I POSTED: WHEN ITS DONE!!!!!!!

Look guys, I work since weeks with _lab on our roms and muttim works even longer on his. It is NOT so easy to create a cab, everyone can install on every rom! There are more than 15 Packages, wich Manila directly depends on, which depend on other packages, and so on.

There won't be ONE CAB with Manila!

SO PLEASE BE PATIENT!!!!

OR DO YOU REALLY WANT CABS AND PACKAGES WHICH CRASH YOUR ROMS!?!?!?!?!?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] muyoso:
Jesus, everyone needs to calm down.

People are just excited about your work. They mean no offense by showing their excitement and asking when it will be available. They are not trying to pester you to release it early. They are just excited about what you are doing and when you are excited about something you want it as soon as possible.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Asphyx:
It's just a classic case of People with too much time on their hands not being understanding of those who don't because they are busy doing something you want.

I know there were probably quite a few of you who blew the weekend in front of your browser hitting refresh every 30 seconds hoping you would find a new way to destabilize your phone again to pass the weekend.

I get it! the phone is a Cool toy not really a tool.

You don't really care if it works well as it gives you something else to post about to pass the time. I did that two years ago when I first got into flashing phones.

These guys give you something for nothing (unless you donate).

They don't ask for it but the least we can do is give them some respect and not keep interrupting them or complaining about how long it takes.

TMartin - I know it is...I've tried it. still less work than trying to port it ourselves though! LOL I figured I would suggest it only to keep the others entertained while the project team works out their final release and bug killing. LOL

Manila is in my mind an OS replacement. Simplicity in anything other than operating is right out the window!

It has more dependencies than a drug addict these days! LOL

Muyoso - Key words..YOUR excitement....THIER work! I understand everyone's desire to run this but unless we are going to stand the post and start doing some of the work we should not complain that it isn't going fast enough.

Thats my last off topic post on this subject...I said my piece.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] drvon:
I want this manilla as much as anyone, but I would rather wait to get a great build. A video update would be cool just to see the progress. :)

Thank you to the devs for all the work they have put in so far and in the future!

I'm done school in 2 weeks, so coffee / beer on the way!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] teixeirabmb:
I believe more teasing will bring more questions about when it's done, the progress and so on...

People aren't expecting bugless packages, or even a total port.

A suggestion: If already exists a fairly working manila 2.5 it could be released as an alpha version.

The original theread as more than 2 months now, so it's natural to have some impacient people right now. For them, use 2.1 version. It's working great! :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] TMartin:
Ohh yea, a lot less work but a get thing to kill sometime and check out something on your own ROM. For me Manila2.1 and 2.5 are bringing back Manila. It kinda fell off for awhile and CHome really impressed me but looks like I'll be sticking with Manila again!!! Keep up the great work SUN-CM & MuttiM86.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kholk:
Already tried to. Unfortunately, due to the protected nature of the ROM, some files are not dumped correctly. I've built the EXT packages with dumped files, but the kitchen crashes and fails to build the ROM.

Quote from TheFreeDictionary:

Acronym, Definition. ETA, Estimated Time of Arrival.

"When it's done" is not an ETA.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] supersobbie:
Please let them work... if you keep having the dev team answer a dumb question like when they will never get done. ETA? estimate!!! look that word up. they did give you an estimate... they said last weekend... guess they needed more time... that is why it is an estimate. if you dont like the estimate please dont complain, just get the leo package from this thread and decompile and convert it to VGA yourself. you dont need there rom. you need to convert everything yourself.

It upsets me (and I am only on 6 hours of sleep over the last 3 days) when people cant just wait. it has been 2 days of ETA crap for no reason... with no results... it is ok to ask once and leave it at that... if you see someone else ask and they didnt get a responce what makes you think that if you ask you will get one? obviously they are busy working on it. just let them work.

Guys, GREAT work so far. I cant wait to test this out. I am very excited to play with 2.5 on my phone. Please take your time and know that we all appreciate your hard work.

Have a Great day,

SoBBie

PS Sorry if I sound harsh... I am running on very little sleep and things are starting to get blurry...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kholk:
The ETA wasn't from a member of the team.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kisja:
eehm, if you mean me (Kisja) then take a look on the Signature in the first post ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] TMartin:
Thats what I was about to point out lol........I had a quick question. Do you guys keep the Porting Graph on the first post updated??
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kisja:
Yes we try, but now we have an new Build (1919) which has to be "reported". So the little things left "red" have now lower priority.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] TMartin:
So when a new build comes out when you aren't finished prior one, do you abandon the previous and start over??
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vader165:
thanks for taking all the time to resize everything again, take your time, it wasn't this weekend because you have a totally new dump on your hands, i understand.

yeah, do you have to restart, or is there some way to just implement the updated files? please enlighten us on just how difficult it is.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kisja:
No we don't need to resize everything again. But there are new files, which have to be resized and some older files have changed.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vader165:
thanks for clarification, please keep up your amazing work, really appreciate your efforts.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Asphyx:
What sys did you try and use it with? Did you add all the dependency packages? They are all available somewhere on this site. If that works why not just run the pre-cooked roms instead. If your in a rush thats the fastest way to go!

No when it's done is not an estimate. It is a precise measurment of when it will be released.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joao2307:
Waiting..

Yes we are waiting and we will wait as long as it takes for them to complete everything...and yes the 1919 looks very good...we should be glad that they are actually trying to keep their work up-to-date. If they gave us an older version "we" would probably criticize them for giving it to us...so ..yes, guys take your time...I would also love to know if it would be ready in 2 or 3 days...but as it has been stated before...it is a lot of work..and they are willing to do it....so PLEASE TAKE YOUR TIME....and please share your work when you think you should..it is after all ...YOUR WORK!!!!!!!

Thanks guys.

JP
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] emresumengen:
Asphyx, I use my phone/pda as a phone/pda. But I like to have it as a toy to fondle and fiddle too. So, this is not all about people with no work and lots of time.

I respect the dev. team, trying to do something good, waiting for nothing. But there is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong about asking "When will it be ready, is there an ETA?"... We all want to know.

People keep asking when HTC Leo will be out, when WM6.5 will be released and what it will look like in final etc. But that doesn't keep either HTC or Microsoft from developing their products. Instead (IMO) it becomes a driving force. (I would be honored if people would track the status of my project and keep looking for it. It's just a sign someone likes what you are doing)

I agree. There are stages of development, called ALPHA and BETA, which correspond to software which is still in development and buggy, but just gives a glimpse of what has to come. If it's not much of a big deal, this could be done. (But I guess it is, as it's said that there are lots of packages to be dealt with, just to have it installed)

What about ppl building their customized ROMs? Packages can be useful for them, if a CAB is not possible (for now, or ever).

And, by the way, I'm not after this port just to show off to my friends. Me, seeing it works is more than ok. I don't get excited by others' frustration and envy.

At least, some updated progress report, screenshots and maybe a video can keep people busy and give us something more to droll on :). The BETA roms are a nice add, I must say. And agree that, people who just want to take the first taste of Manila 2.5 would dive in and try them.

All in all, nice work SUN-CM-TEAM, for trying something that hard. I hope it gets final and released soon.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] emresumengen:
Actually, it not any kind of measurement, set aside being "precise". It's just a statement that it will be released, which for me is more than enough right now.

I'm already lot happy with 2.1 and Hero theme :) I suggest the anxious people try that combination.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] isaacfinnegan:
Wow. I was just getting into SPB MS 3.5 and now I see how far this is coming along!!! Talk about making all my decisions harder! Way to go guys.

Question: Is the Manilla 2.5 Twitter stuff going in here?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vetvito:
im wanting to help but i cant see any problems with the last files posted
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] labbbby:
1919 is the build that introduced the twitter tab.

But also another day another 2.5 build!

Apparently Manilla 2.5.3430 is now available so I wouldn't be surprised these guys have to work some more with this newer build =/.

Keep up the impressive work guys, it's really appreciated!!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] theclerk74:
Maybe the best thing is to finish porting the 1919 build to release, and then wait for the official release to do a final update/port? Seems like that's what is happening with the 2.1 port.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] violentz313:
Shouldnt this be stickyd? kinda lame having to go a few pages back every time i want to check the progress.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Captain_Throwback:
it *may* be stickied when there's a release. And all you have to do is "subscribe" to the thread, and you don't have to worry about clicking pages at all . . .
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] violentz313:
Wow thanks had no clue.