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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Vgamer4550:
I am Actually using the June 6th Cookie Version. And that is actually the weird part. When the Freezing does happen I actually can get into the Start menu screen and get to task manager. It used to be that closing all application will sometimes bring the phone back. But in either case, the CPU is not sitting at 100%. In fact there seems to be very little CPU activity. Just not sure what could be causing it to hang. And why the phone wont go back to the home screen but can still get into the start menu.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rjh1:
next time you HARD reset or flash a new rom DO NOT install any apps or tweaks and see if this still happens, maybe you have a program that is messing things up...

Rick
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Aaron McCarthy:
He gave me that link a while back when I was looking for old roms too.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Vgamer4550:
Thats just it, this happens from the Moment I install the Rom. I have not bothered installing anything because I know I will just need to upgrade again if the current version does not make it better. So, just the rom....no apps, no tweaks.

After a text and or sliding the keyboard open to type a text.....it will just not get back to the home screen. But is not completely frozen.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] M_T_M:
Ok...we got that part already ;)

Why don't you try task29, re-flashing and the hard re-set to see if there's any improvement? :)

Follow all the instructions given and report back :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sklenke:
Im having the same problem. From what I can tell from Pre CHT is that its getting hung up on Tasks and SMS .. There has always been a problem with SMS if you text alot. 1 thing you can do is Dont backup your texts and clear them often. As for Tasks, I have no clue .. Today im going to try some new Task progams to see if its that but most of the programs out there really are just a skin and wont fix the problem because it still uses the core ... I will tell you this the Regular rom is really good and fast but I love CHT and could not seem to be able to add it to that rom :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
How do you know the CPU is not at 100%?

Also, does it freeze without Sense enabled?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Vgamer4550:
Well, currently I can only go based on what Task Manager is telling me and the CPU seems to be practically sleeping......5-15% activity when it "freezes" up.

I will try disabling Sense when I get the Chance and See what happens.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
So you can get to the task manager? I suggest you try installing battclock and setting it to indicate CPU %. It will give you a constant update and you can see the % WITHOUT running any new programs (which automatically change the results).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
Update on the 11 Jun ROM

I just changed out my battery, and I realized that it lasted 4 days! Good job, NRG.

Sense is turned off. The only thing updating is my SBSH Pocket Weather, every hour between 0700 and 2200 daily. I check emails occasionally and do a little bit of web surfing, plus the normal phone calls.

Once I fixed the speaker phone mic issue, the only problem I'm having is that the notification light sometimes stays on after I read the email / SMS. But I've had that with just about every ROM, including stock.

EDIT: For those interested, my phone does NOT consume memory - it stays between 80Mb and 92 Mb free at all times, unless I'm running a memory hungry program like Opera (although I generally use IE).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hisandherturbo:
I would assume that re-installing it would do this.............

I can't get the phone to connect to anything!!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] M_T_M:
Not even to the wall charger?? :eek:

I guess what my granpapi told me many moons ago is true..he said "mijo (mexican expersion for son)...you can only insert something in to something so many times before it brakes or bends down" :(

Miss you old man :rolleyes:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
Then it is time for my last suggestion - warranty replacement.

Did you take a magnifying glass and examine the pins of the device USB port? Any bent pins?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ace10134:
If you try to take a pic through the camera-MMS thing, it'll simply be micro. I think that's what you're talking about. There was no way to fix that, from what I found. I spent a good 5 hours trying to fix the size issues, and I did the best I could!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] fuzio1963:
OK than, i am not a mms person anyway, haha. So other than that, this rom is THE BEST!!! Thanks for your time and help, as always. Now, what do you think about that second version of 28002 NRG posted today?? The first one yesterday was a.............lets call it "mistake", i guess.........
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ace10134:
The second, R2 version, should work at least, hah. I haven't tried it though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] KevinACrider:
Has anyone else noticed Max Manilla Ultimate no longer works? I find this program to be a nessecity anymore with the 20 shortcut icons, the smaller clock and the wallpaper for all tabs all built in.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] buffalosolja42:
memory leaking

Is anyone else experiencing this I restart device and I get 56% and after a couple of hrs and some texting (and seven running in background) I get 80's and it got so high it asked me to close start menu.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] EQUiLiiBRiUM:
I have given this Task Manager a Whirl Seems pretty Kool and Well done but missing Key Feature such as MeM % use. Also the option to unhide a Running Process after you've hidden it. Its nice and Pretty ok but I still Think Showcase is Probably the best, its fast and finger Friendly. just my 2 cents :D

in Rom version 28008 the Only options in "Start Menu > Settings > Personal" are

1) Buttons

2) Keyboard Sliding Sound

3) Owner Information

4) Phone

I'm a Tilt 2 user And have been Using every Energy Rom since I Bought My Tilt 3 Weeks ago. Only time I ever had a problem with incoming and outgoing txts was when the HTC messaging conflicted with the WM messaging. Choose one or the other you can't have Both. Install one of these cabs after you've Chosen whichone you wanna use and problem should be solved :D

HTC messaging ONLY use MMS Fix (M2.5) (ATT) (Valkyrie) (1.43).cab

WM Only Use Zenyee Disable HTC Messaging 1.2.CAB

*Both cabs Posted @ the Bottom of this Post*

I"m giving this bad boy a try today (28002) and I will report back in a few hours after some HEAVY usage ;)

Where have you HomeSLice :p this has been happening for a few Builds now...I think its Just the TestBuilds and they fact that they are in Beta... Maybe CleanRAM might help. check the forums for it. :cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sakana:
Hi

I tried this ROM and like it. Very stable and quick.

One question

Why don't have in de right ip corner the task managet ?

Gos the clock and if i click show me the iconsd larger

can you help me ?

thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mektah:
I get this same issue. I'd like to know why or if there is something I can do to fix.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sonificator:
Assorted Issues

Hey Everyone! I am on the latest CDMA 21869 Energy Rom (Sense 2.5.1921), trying to resolve a few issues:

1) How to get rid of the endlessly flashing notification light. I turned off all flashing notifications in settings and installed the “Notification LED Enable Options” cab, but without effect?

2) How to expand the start menu to 4-5, tried some of the cabs but none seem to be working on this version?

3) The long-press SEND button tries to launch some application, which is not properly set up. I would like to get it back to the customary default of turning on the phone speaker. Does anyone know the correct registry entries?

4) Is there a command line / shortcut to send a key dial ("1") during phone call?

5) I regularly get a “777 - can’t establish connection”, even though all connections seem fine?

6) Is there a command line / shortcut to activate dropdown on the built in HTC Task Manager? If I could map it to a button, it would eliminate the need for any other task manager.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] buffalosolja42:
on memory loss

I have been reading big guy didn't know that it was in new build, really no problem as long as I reset device 2x a day (because it restarts fast). Hope that microsoft fixes their builds. You would think with the market share they are losing they would want to me more productive don't mind being test subjects, but seriously they should concentrate on stability, which other devices are doing well and and coming out with ota quickly to resolve.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jezi:
BT AVRCP

Has NRG fixed the Bluetooth remote pause, play, FF, RR in the HTC player on the 21869/28002 Nov 19 releases yet?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] esincho:
thanks bro. I don't know why the input settings has been missing in NRG's 6.5.1 and above Roms. I haven't been able get any answers, don't seem 2 be an issue 4 anyone else. I need 2 access those settings..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] derylmccarty:
20 Nov 28002

Tried the 28002 of 19 Nov and had multiple probs...My Location would not locate not matter what update I tried, PIE would not play nice, set up slow, MSDC would not sync no matter what dead animals I sacrificed to the WMDC gods. But it was fast. Went back to 21869 within an hour. But by that time NRG had also figured out the issues and reissued 28002 with a 20 Nov release date. I dl and flashed that ROM after only 8 hours of 21869 and what a difference. None of the problems of the 19th version, still have the speed and class of an NRG release. Thanks dude.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JaxFR:
The last people who tried to ask this question never got any answer, good luck... :mad:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] fuzio1963:
28002 ver Nov 20, 2009

1. Zoom bar does not work in IE

2. Zoom bar does not work in Opera either, nor rotation.

3. Changing to animated wallpaper from home screen does not work, changing from setting screen worked, but animated wallpaper is not animated.

4. In landscape "music", clickable buttons at right bottom corner are covered by this "bar".

5. Active Sync does not start automatically, it has to be started from phone.

6. Weather Demo button does not do anything.

7. AM/PM clock indicator is out.

8. Other than those, it is fast and great.

9. .....still playing...................:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bo79:
Yes, i noticed it. Max Manila is one of the first things i install after a flash. I posted that in the Max Manila thread. Ultimate 2.2 is reported to work for the latest EnergyROM releases.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] 30Glock:
There has to be something really amazing in any future release to get me to flash it and replace 21869. This one is truely AMAZING!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] derylmccarty:
Weird.

My zoom bar works in PIE, landscape and protrait (but I admit that it is not much zoom but it does work). In fact the zoom is almost binary, i.e. slide your finger from side to side on the zoom and the screen will get one size bigger or smaller. Soft slide works fully as does double tap. I do not use Opera, (in fact I uninstalled it) My animated weather wall paper is ok, (much too ok in fact. I would like it to unanimate, but installing Mx Manila, even 2.5 ultimate is too much program for the 2-3 changes I would like). I use no other animated stuff. Active Snyc started ok for me and synced all the way through last night after set up and SR (repeat after SR and until then it would not auto sync). It now keeps track of changes just fine. AM/PM clock is not available for me either, but I don't need it anyway since I use military time (HHmm:ss). We gotta keep working on the bugs (otherwise known as Microsoft "features") because 28002 is fast.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] lovetoby:
not working...

the taskmanager wont popup... i tap and hold left corner or starmenu button or whatever and nothings pops up what could be a taskmanager...

if i tap and hold the top a line like menu appears with all the icons ivealready got inthe top.. so not taskmanager for me wich is not very usefull :-(

sorry if iam to stupid to realise whats going on but searching the thread did not give me any advice :-(:confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hisandherturbo:
cute, funny, haha, but seriously, as stated in the original, it does charge! "connect" as in "share data" do something other then power it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hisandherturbo:
No I didn't, but seeing as how this is actually VERY common!!!! EVERYONE bent the same pin(s) to be able to power it, but not share data? Doubt it!!! so back to my original question............ any of the hundreds that have posted this problem FIND A REASON/SOLUTION????

PS CAN'T EVEN DO WARRENTY IF I CAN'T DO ANOTHER HARD SPL BACK TO FACTORY.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] efrant:
I have the same issue. I think it's just overuse of the mini-USB port, which caused some wear, making it not connect somehow. (Others have complained about this issue on the Rhodium.) I've tried everything: other cables, other computers, etc... to no avail. For the moment, I'm doing everything (flashing, transfering files, etc.) via the microSD card.

I don't feel like getting it repaired, so I finally decided to jump ship to Android. Getting either an HTC Desire, a Nexus One, or, if I can hold out, one of the rumoured HTC Scorpio/Scorpion/Olympian :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] venomshot629:
Im using June 11 23569 CHT ROM... I am having an issue where it is saying I have a new voicemail, even though I don't. I've restarted many times, checked in my actual voicemail and visual voicemail, and it will not clear. Is there a .cab or exe fix for this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hisandherturbo:
I do not think it's a hardware issue AT ALL!!!!!!!!!! there are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to many people with the same issue, can power, but not share data............ ie the data port funtion of it is turned off in some way............ do a google search............ and not once will you see anyone say they can't power either.......... it's the exact same thing we are seeing.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] efrant:
But we can't even get a connection via the Bootloader, so it is certainly not ROM related.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hisandherturbo:
there is a "1" mail notification fix out there, give that a shot?!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hisandherturbo:
does the bootloader work that way? ever had NOTHING on the phone and tried to bootloader via usb? translating to what I kinda know....... it also seems like something in the BIOS is turning off data sharing OR how we do it in the army, go into the registry and dis-able data ports........ its how the army stopped people from plugging in external devices.......... HOWEVER all the USB's still work and POWER things, just no data can be transfered, doesn't even see a "data type device" at all. THAT IS WHAT OUR PHONES ARE DOING!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] efrant:
Look, turn off your phone, hold the volume down button and the power button at the same time. This will put your phone into the bootloader. This is loaded before any ROM, so there is no OS, i.e., no registry. If you can't get a connection this way, either the USB cable is faulty, your computer's USB port is faulty, or your device's USB port is faulty. I could be mistaken, but I can't see any other way.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hisandherturbo:
You don't need to hold down the power button......... and TY, but you are mistaken, don't know how or why, but in some way you are, there are waaaaaaay waaaaaay waaaaaay to many people who have this exact same problem.......... and everyone one of them on multiple computers, mutiple OS, multiple cables, multiple different USB ports........... the only thing the same is the phone, custom ROMS, and can power, but not connect.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] groggrog:
Calm down man!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] venomshot629:
You are wrong.

The past few ROMs Ive used from NRG I have plugged into, oh, 4 or 5 different cables. I have 2 at work, 2 at home, and a car charger. Randomly, without me moving the phone, the charging light will turn off and the phone will lose connection. On all of those different USB cables. While plugged into my car charger, it has even dropped connection, then found connection, but as if it were connected to a computer! It asked me if i want to connect via Active Sync, Disk Drive, or Internet Sharing... Thru my car charger!

I dont know whats going on, its not too big of a deal for me because it works a lot more often than not, but there is something going on with the last few builds that are causing USB connection to drop randomly.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
Yes, apparently the "custom" USB port in the European and US T-Mobile (which use the USB port as the connector for the headset) are prone to bent pins. I would suggest that you at least check it out. I don't recall that I've heard of this issue from AT&T or the other carriers (who use a separate 3.5mm connector, and the USB is only for computer connection and charging).

As to warranty, there are instructions on how to flash back to stock for warranty returns. Look on the hardware forum. Basically, you flash to stock and then flash the normal SPL over the hard SPL.

EDIT: Oops, I just realized your meaning about flashing without USB. You can flash the ROM (via SD card), but I don't know if it is possible to flash the stock SPL without the USB.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
A bent pin would cause this symptom - sometimes the pin for computer connection could cross with other pins. I see that you are on T-Mobile, so you have the "Super USB" port that connects both USB and headset.

EDIT: IMHO, it was not smart of HTC to design such a multi-use USB port. I realize that by using this design they allow for TV out, but come on - how many people will want to output their device to TV? And it pretty much prevents the device from using standard 3.5mm headsets. Yes, I know it comes with an adaptor, but that is clunky design.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigBadger:
If I install Windows 7 on 100 Dell XPS 4100 computers and one of them acts weird, I reinstall on that one and if it still acts weird I figure the hardware or firmware is somehow different/broken and I would not ask Dell to do anything but replace it.

All the more reason that we insist that folks report their hardware version when they post issues.

No. We unboubtedly know everthing there is to know about this. There are no unknowns. :D

Check the FAQ at the beginning of the thread and then use the 'search this thread feature' to find relevant posts.

Reminds me of a Dilbert strip. http://www.networkperformancedaily.com/2008/07/if_the_problem_is_the_servers_1.html

There is no 'FIX' except the particular fix for your particular problem. We knowing what the real problem is in your situation. Might be one of many different things and you are going to have to test/troubleshoot each one until you discover what the problem is.

If your phone is freezing up all the time and even on the stock ROM when you got it, you have a bad phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] venomshot629:
I have been looking and cannot find one that is for voicemail; I have a cab for ghost text messages but it is not clearing my ghost voicemail.

Can someone please upload a cab fix (or any suggestions)? I're tried calling my phone and leaving a VM but that does not clear it.

Thank you!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cerealfreak:
It looks to me like this is a hardware issue, given that you say this has happened since day one even on the stock software, I can't see how it would be software related.

I'd like to see how many people are experiencing the issue in the manner you state, yes there has been sporadic issues with it but nowhere near the amount you are claiming it to be. You are making it out to be in the 51%+ amount of TP2 owners.

Either you have been very unfortunate or you are seriously over estimating the issue.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] schizo:
Hm..interesting. I guess it happened because of using the USB cables which is included in the box which have a flat side on the left part. The common miniUSB can actually be used, but in the long run I think it may bent either the housing or the pins.

It happened to me too. Now i just revert to original HTC usb cables, because the common one is not very reliable. Just one small move will disconnect the device.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] osu9400:
My ActiveSync policy requires that I use a PIN to login to my phone. With the stock Tilt 2 ROM, then login screen was very nice looking with colored, 3D, rounded buttons. The login screen on the Ebergy ROMs uses a different screen with big, flat, no so pretty buttons. Is there any way to use a more attracitve login screen in a future ROM?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
When I first received my TP2, I discovered that the mini USB that I had been using on my P-3470 would not work - but the cable delivered with the TP2 DID work. At home, I have only one USB cable that will work for sync.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigBadger:
The only 'fix' I know of is to:

1) delete your voicemails (with your carrier)

2) soft reset your phone

3) leave voicemail for yourself

4) delete that voicemail

That seems to fix it for most people that run into this problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mjsmith75:
Hey...I tried both the 21509 and 23569 builds of the Sense 2.5 cookie rom on an AT&T Tilt 2 and both are freezing the same way described in this post. No other Energy ROM has done this for me...ever. I have tried all of the tricks to get this to "not freeze" and they haven't worked. There is something wrong, I just can't quit figure out what it is. If I go back to an earlier build...no issues at all.

Note: Not posting my signature as I haven't updated it in a while.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] venomshot629:
Is it freezing even before you install your custom cabs/programs and settings on there? How about before you load your contacts and sync your data? Check how it works before you load anything on it, it may be some of your data causing a conflict.

What I highly recommend is immediately going in and disabling ArkSwitch.. i turned off the "Run at startup" option and shut it down from running ever again, and since then i have had no crashes... When it was active, it would crash a few times a day.

Also, Task29 might help your issue, flashing that before you flash your next ROM.

I hope that helped :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Adam86:
Any temp fixes for the random freezing/black screen issues? I see they have been reported by multiple people. Its happened to me with the last couple of ROM's and I go on holiday on Saturday and is something I dont want to encounter abroad.