yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] bluecluenj:
Maybe (probably) I'm missing the obvious, but I was wondering why ROMS on the Magic need to be configured using the sd card to run. I understand that the G1 has very limited memory, and thats the answer, but the MT3G as I understand has considerably more memory. Can a ROM just be ported over to run off the internal device on the Magic without having to worry about partitions and all the related issues?

Sorry to waste anyones time if this is stupid.....
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Cheesebaron:
Often the SD configuration is optional unless it is a Hero ROM, also wrong forum section and this thread has been reported to the mods.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] 12aon:
Moved to General, should this be moved anywhere else?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] bluecluenj:
***GASP***

Not the mods! LMAO sorry to have caused you to come down from your elite perch on high to associate with a mere mortal who's not a dev. I'm not worthy!!!!! Peace brother, take a breath and enjoy life its a forum, I didn't mean to track mud in your living room :D
[HTC Breeze] dravik:
Ok,, I fixed it. Thanks
[HTC Breeze] moiisse:
hi

can you share your experience and tell me what's happened with you, and how you fixed it...

thankyou...

best regards!!!!

moiisse
[HTC Breeze] dravik:
First of all,, there was a short circuit in the main frame. I dropped it down.., then it went all wrong... After fixing that I had the second problem. I had an old IPL (0.90) I updated the IPL and my rom and now its working again...

not a problem you hear often of.., so I doubt if it helped you?:)
[HTC Breeze] dravik:
By the way, what is your problem?
[General Topics] citizen_insane:
I'm trying to find the config files that list where all the item are and where they're placed so I can port my portrait setup to landscape without having to arrange everything by hand. Is this possible? I assume it's just a text config file somewhere that says what the links are, what imgs are used and where they're located on the screen.

Thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] valerima:
With Energy standart from 17Sep09- it took 5 hours until full discharge...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] krogoth:
Impossible... check Radio or Rillphone...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] gld_krieg:
wow thats hillarious... :D

my 16 sept 09 build need about 2 days to fully discharge..

backlight is set to auto

3g off

data connection only if needed

and of course matching rillphone and Radio... :D

what with u?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jhannaman82:
You cannot measure a ROM's battery life performance by installing a ROM and seeing how long it takes to die. The device needs time to calibrate. About 1 week of normal usage minimum. After I flash a ROM, I'll sometimes get 5-12 hours on the first charge. After a week I get typically 48-72 hours per charge. This is with screen at full brightness, 3g/data on, lots of txt and calls etc. This has been my experience with all of NRG's ROMs. I do install the recommended radio, no need to mess with rilphone.dll if you are using Energy ROMs with the recommended radio.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] votum:
With TAEL rom and 1.11.25.01 I was at 71% after 3 days of liberal usage. I am trying NRGZ's latest build now but TAEL's ROM has been by FAR the best I have ever used. I haven't left NRGZ since I got my Fuze 6 months ago, and TAEL instantly switched me. Battery life is much better, the ROM is better in every category. I recommend TAEL, with ENERGYRom a close second.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ewuzh:
I get exactly 24 hours from full charge to less than 10%.

3G always on

Data connection always on

a few phone calls, a few texts, light data usage (web, rss, email, maps)

Using latest EnergyROM

I can get 1.5~2 days maximum if I turn 3G off, data off, and further limit data usage.

This phone is just extra bad with battery life in general. Even with the stock ATT rom I wasn't able to get more than 2 days.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] unashamed:
am I the only one that uses a cradle charger with an extra battery and not care about batt life.

I care more about the quality of the rom.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jhannaman82:
nah, I would also prefer a newer/better performing ROM at the expense of battery life (which isn't always the case). As long as it last me throughout the day im fine.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] RobtWms:
Battery life is also highly dependant on geography. When I'm in the country (with coverage at all) the battery runs much quicker.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] rafalinx:
These are all subjective matters and opinions. You can not compare the use that each one makes and where each one makes it. Too many variables. The time it takes to discharge does not mean anything, or it says very very little to the other person.

It would be interesting if someone conducted a benchmark with some metrics to evaluate what each ROM consumes and where does the power goes (which apps, backlight, ...).

Maybe one day we can have a standard benchmark, maybe a simple thing, which can be used by the chefs when they release their ROMs, or by someone else, and that gives results that we're able to compare.

Perhaps someone who is reading this, is willing take this challenge and develop such a benchmark. :) That would be great.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bhyde:
I generally get the same usage with 3G and Data set to "always on", gps daily and maps. I can go a full 24-36 hours routinely and over the weekend if i'm not on the phone a full two days. I'm a flash ***** so i've had this on several ROMS including Energy and NATF.

I always use the ril with the appropriate radio, but accidentally used the 1.12.25.19 ril with radio 1.14.25.35 with great success...:D In doing this I was getting super battery life immediately....

But at the end of the day you need to find what combo works for you, what may be great for me in Atlanta may totally suck butt in San Diego or anyplace else for that matter. So test test test and report back...:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fanguru:
i can only suggest this: LevelSightSvc.1.0.3.2.CAB

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=446434

install, go to power settings, disable SO auto adjust, and set the slider in the position u like (i usually set the 3rd step from the left).

LevelSightSvc fully replace the system autolight with HUGE improvement of my battery life.

Try it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] player911:
There are lots of things to take into account with battery life. Your radio can play a huge role as well as the base build the rom was built on. Then the various settings and apps suckle the battery tit also.

I put my phone on a charger every night before I go to bed since I use it as an alarm clock too. I usually have 60-70% left over with some light GPS, full brightness, a dozen texts and 5-6 calls. I don't know how accurate that is since I'm a chef and flash my phone 5-6 times a day. The latest one I've used for a while and seems nice.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lukesky:
there's a prog from nueROM called nueDynamicClock which underclocks your cpu when it's on standby or when the screen is off. it will increase your batt life significantly if your phone is on standby for long periods of time..
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] 8525Smart:
I agree with some of the others.

I am currently using EnergyRom Genesis build 09-20-09 (1.14.25.05 radio) and my battery doesn't run out that quickly. I recently did a stress test (as a comparison to a Nokia E71 I own) and the phone went roughly 5 hours before it hit 10%.

However, take my usage into consideration:

1) 3G always on

2) Heavy data usage (Youtube, Internet Radio, web surfing, etc)

3) Receiving text and emails

Obviously, that is very heavy usage, and will naturally drain the battery, but it took five hours to do so. By comparison, if I had just use it normally, it would last roughly 1.5 days.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] John2y:
Hi, i want change my background in menu, but i have no ideas how to do it :confused:

can u help me?

P.S. forgive me if is here some mistake its my firts post on XDA :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] marvi0:
hie guys am looking for a battery indicator, with a percentage % indicator, something that is light with battery usage, cause i feel that the task bar icon, apps circulating on the forum, have an impact on battery, so am just looking for a %indicator, that shows me the remaining % for my battery, and yes i have searched but i havent found a satisfactory app.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Speactra:
Did you try TouchLockPro?

It has an option to make the battery indicator shown as %, and also the clock on the top right of the screen. It is a lock-application, though you can disable all those options and just get the indicator and clock.

I don't know how much battery or memory it uses, but worth a try :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] LeTo08:
Try this cab, instal sdkcerts first, then WhiteBatteryClean. soft reset .

It will change only battery icon for add %.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] lulek-tm:
@LeTo08

Not working for me, batrery's icon its the same, after HR too ;/ - ROM : 1.56.69.0 (44310) PLK.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] LeTo08:
wow it's your first post since you're register in 2006:eek:

for batery icon, i don't understand why because it work for all my device with rom 6.1 or 6.5

maybe wrong value from registry. cab must be instal in device not SD.

please other people who have test, can you report if it work for you guys? with screen if possible.

i haven't blackstone, but i have the link for the original post of this cab at my work, i will post it tomorow.

EDIT= Screen from my Toshiba

As you can see it work and it's the same for all my HTC device.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Fallen Spartan:
Something else to think about is the numerous taskbar cabs available like Brian's taskbar which includes percentage battery indicators.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] jpl69:
Forgot to mention you've got to install SdkCerts.cab search in this forum
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] patcooke:
neat battery indicator

Don't know if this is the sort of thing you mean but I find it unintrusive and excellent:

http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-batti-v2-1.html
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] LeTo08:
Oh yes you're right, thanks. I forgot it sorry.

I have edited my post and add SdkCerts

@lulek-tm:

- uninstal the cab of WhiteBattery

- soft reset

- instal SdkCerts.cab

- instal whitebattery.cab

- soft reset again and enjoy ;)

And the link of source as promise= http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=321733
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] marvi0:
thanks

thanks for al the replies and like i said the reason i am not too keen on the various taskbar applications is that i just have a feeling they impact on the battery life so that's why am after somethin light that does the job without impacting my battery
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] svntsvn:
Trying to get back to stock rom. i have only flashed roms via hosted recovery images and have not changed the radio or bootloader to my knowledge.

Downloaded rom from htc for this phone. Does it think it is a mytouch 3g now and want me to get the other spl? I'm on at&t and dont want to do that.

E: failure at line 3:

assert getprop("ro.bootloader")

=="1.33.2005" | | gettprop("ro.bootloader") == "1.33.005"

Installation aborted.

my setup:

sapphire pvt 32b deve s-on g

hboot-1.33.3004 (saapp300000)

cpld-10

radio-2.22.19.26I
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] 07adavid:
Does any one have any basic instructions on how to install touch flo vista 2 on htc touch hd.

All help would much be appreciated
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] MAMeingast:
Why on earth don't you ask for help in the theme's thread?

Don't start a new thread for every problem you have if there already is one on the subject! ;)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=499165&highlight=vista
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] 07adavid:
i have done what the instructions tell me to do but they still dont seem to install
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] MAMeingast:
That may be - but still you should ask for help in the theme's thread and not in a new one! ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Baly23:
Hi guys!

This morning during physical time at school, i was thinking about a new app that i don't ever seen on the network.

A tool that allow to measure lenght of object by g-sensor built-in our (yours XD i've an old Kaiser, my brother has an Omnia) ppc.

So, on the X Axis, we have the time, and on the Y axis we have the speed/velocity.

We need to calculate the space having the acceleration value (taken from g-sensor) and the time.

Suppose this:

You have to measure the lenght of a tennis court.

You start the application. There is a button, press it.

Now the ppc is recording every second, the acceleration on an axis (supposed to be the z axis), and he's saving it on memory.

If you are still, the value is 0, then you have the previus speed, if you are moving in one direction, it will increase its value, but when you walk at the same speed (costant) the value is 0 again (not worry, it's working perfectly).

When you stop the app, it will stop recording the values and calculate the distance.

There is anyone that would make this application, i'm good only at web design and graphics, but not at develope apps =)

I could also help you, or would be good if we can create a team ^^
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JoOoSs:
Oh ! It's a great idea man ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] godefroi:
I have a hard time believing it'd be any more accurate than measuring with the GPS.

Meaning, not very accurate.

If you tilted the device (even slightly) your measurement could be WAY off.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Baly23:
it's possible to delete this error of tilting the device by using sin/cosin function.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] godefroi:
It strikes me, however, that by using the GPS coupled with the accelerometer, you could calculate the height of trees to within the nearest mile or so...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Baly23:
but you cannot use gps for small object, for example, rooms, or desktop =)

and in this case you could set your phone on the dest and slide from the A side to the B side.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] godefroi:
How so?

I don't claim to be a math wizard, but I don't see how the device can tell the difference between being accelerated through space and being tilted. This ambiguity is the very basis of the stationary "roller coaster" rides that put the track on a screen and tilt you around to make you think you're moving.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Baly23:
if your phone is on a table (not tilted) all the g-acceleration is on an axis.

If you tilt a bit the device, the g-acceleration is divided in 2 or 3 axis. let's try with an app that tell you the info and take a look
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] godefroi:
Unless it's rotated AROUND the axes in question?

Again, I could be way off here, I'm just going from my understanding...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Baly23:
O.o for rotating around an axes, you have to tilt the device!

For make an accurate measure, you have to don't rotate it xD

it's like start the chronometer when a race start, and stop it when you want, not at the end of the race XD

The chronometer could be good like 1/100 of second, but if you stop it after 3 or 4 seconds, doesn't have any sense
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gjeremie:
hi

it will not work because if you move at constant velocity the acceleration will be null, so the accelerometer will be inefficient. and the distance covered will not be counted.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Baly23:
in italian is "Legge oraria del moto uniformemente accellerato"

it's a law of the uniform accelerate motion.

space = initial speed * time + 1/2 * acceleration * time^2

so, if acceleration = 0, all the second part of the law will be 0, but not the first!

if you are at 2m/s, and there is no acceleration, you will gain 2meters erery second, until you don't change the speed ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] godefroi:
Well, hey, if the math works out, I think it'd be a neat project.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] godefroi:
The real question is, "can the accelerometer be used to accurately determine speed (given a known starting state, i.e. zero velocity)". I don't know the answer to that question, but if it's "yes", then the project is feasible.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Baly23:
i don't know the exact sample rate of the g sensor, but if it takes value at 5Hz (5 times per second), could be good.

i'm quite sure that the value is at least 10Hz
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bbonzz:
http://www.maspware.com/products/gpsmeterpe/index.php

not exactely the same, but we have also a gps...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Baly23:
yes, but it's gps!

You cannot measure indoor object smaller then 1 meter!

The error of the gps it's about +-1/m for x and y axis, you cannot use it to meausure 1m object... you have 100% of relative error!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JudgeDredd67:
I think I understand what he is getting at. What he is saying is that using the accelerometer, this app would start when the phone starts to move recording the velocity at that moment. If you swing your arm while walking to measure something it would constantly be changing velocity and both positively an negatively. Now all we have to do is record those velocities do a little math and we will have a ft/sec or in/sec, now factor in the time from start to finish and you have a measurement. GPS is nice for outside and large objects, it will get you within 5 to 10 feet. But this could be much more accurate than GPS and also used for smaller items such as rooms.

One thing I would recommend is that the time starts and stops automatically when the phone starts and stops. This would provide the most accuracy. Sure have a "Start to Measure" button but that would be more of an initiate button.

Excellent Idea! Any developers want a shot?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Baly23:
if you start the timer manually, and don't move your phone, it's ok, cause acceleration is 0 and initial speed is 0, so for the partial time, it doesn't move and it's ok ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JudgeDredd67:
You are correct. So it really would not matter.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Baly23:
yeah! ^^

i'm waiting for someone capable of create the app =(

if you know someone, link this topic!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] godefroi:
I'm willing to give it a shot, but I don't have a device with a G-Sensor yet. Get back to me sometime after Oct 18 when AT&T releases the Rhodium.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] l3it3r:
I'm very skeptical of the math on this one. At first glance it seems relatively possible, yet I can't seem to grasp exactly what you're getting at with it. Maybe if you were to start up a white board of sorts where you could draw up some ideas? :confused:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Baly23:
excuse me, but I don't understand all of whatT are you telling (different native language problems)

are you telling us that you don't find the utility of this app?

with this app you could measure distance where gps can't.

smaller object or indoor distance.

thanks man!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] godefroi:
So, after playing around a bit, I've found that the accelerometer isn't, well, responsive enough to play ball. It doesn't respond quickly or reliably enough to just the acceleration from moving to get accurate measurements. Sorry.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Baly23:
the measure that you had to do with this app, are small, but not too small to have problem with the sensibility of the g-sensor...

while you are measure it, you should try to take it at constant acceleration as possible... it's really difficult, if the measure take like 5 seconds ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] godefroi:
Just holding the device level in my hand, the sensor gives back data with the same magnitude as the "bumps" it sees when I move the device. There's no way to tell the difference.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Baly23:
any news for your new device?

you said that since 18/october will buy the rhodium...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] scilor:
If I would own a G-Sensor phone, I would try to code such an app, but with my little Kaiser it is impossible :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Baly23:
i moved from a kaiser to an Universal XD

i miss the gps, but no gsensor again :D

next update, htc touch pro 3 (half 2010?)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] scilor:
xD You have to much money!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Baly23:
oh no!

i've got only 2nd/3rd-hand phones!

People doesn't like windows mobile here :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] godefroi:
Yes, that's the device I've been using to test out the sensor. It's just not good enough for the kind of precision and accuracy we would need.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Baly23:
could you make a video with some g.sensor tester?

just to know the data refresh, and the decimal numbers.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] itoYo:
what happens if your travelling at a constant velocity, presumably the G sensor output in that direction would be zero as it measures only acceleration! am i right? i dont get it!

for this reason i dont think such an app is possible
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Baly23:
if you start at speed = 0, the first fraction is accelerating!

So, the law is: space = initial speed * time + 1/2 * gravity * time^2

so, also if the gravity is 0, there is the inital speed * time!

Everything works!

Tomorrow i'll show it to my physical prof ^^
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] abrigham:
so, I installed an app called Seismo that measures the acceleration of the G-Sensor. Unfortunately, it just outputs a graph, no raw numbers, but on my Touch Pro, the acceleration being reported was very jumpy. even with the device sitting still on a table w/ no movement, it was jumping back and forth. Granted, it was very small values that could probably be rounded down, but still erratic. The other thing I noticed is that if I moved my device along the table at a constant speed, the G-Sensor seems to detect the minute vibrations as acceleration, so the values were all over the place. If I held it just above the table and did the same thing, it didn't seem to detect the initial acceleration unless I move it rather quickly. Sadly, I don't think the accelerometers in current devices are going to have the accuracy needed for an app like this. It seems they are too sensitive to vibration but not sensitive enough to lower acceleration values. Great idea, though, just no hardware that can do it, yet.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gagvas:
The ideas sounds very smart but, in my opinion, such an application could be build only if :

1) The sampling rate is much larger than simply one value per second. Suppose that you walk from the starting to the ending point of the distance to be measured. The shock due to your steps would impose accelarations on all three axes. Normaly, the double integral of the accelaration over time (this is how acceleration is converted to distance) along the two directions which are vertical to the moving one should equal to zero. For achieving this task you need high frequency sampling and accurate acceleration measurements.

2) As I said above, hand movement imposes acceleration on all three axes. For eliminating the effect of acceleration in the vertical axes evidently you need to be able to measure three-axes accelaration which, as fas as I know, is impossible as the smartphones accelerometer only measures two-axes acceleration.

3) Of course, the latter would not be a problem if you can guarantee that you can move your device along any plane which includes the straight line connecting the starting and the ending points. In my opinion, this is not possible !