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[Hero, G2 Touch General] levitator:
Yes, I can turn the wifi on, the toggle shows it on, and in the settings seems to work, but this can't find any wifi network, and there isn't any wifi indicator icon on the status bar. Meantime i am using my netbook on my wifi network, so I have a network, and I have tried it in my office, with the same outcome.

So I am very disappointed. It was very good in the last 3-4 weeks.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] juyin0711:
Did you do hard reset? Try it:)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] zalman361:
try to install drizzy/modaco firmware..

or maybe hard reset also
[Hero, G2 Touch General] iborisenko:
Same issue. Used Modaco 2 ROM. No hard reset yet.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] rgwebster:
same problem

I had the same problem. A few days after ROM upgrade (Orange) I could not detect wifi signals. I also had installed wifi buddy and something called Y5. Even after uninstalling these programs the wifi did not detect.

After a factory reset it seems to work OK for now!!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] levitator:
After same issue I have take it back to the shop. They flashed it again with the new ROM, wipe my data, and so on (okay, a have made some backup).

After it, my wifi was working again, but I could not use mobil internet. Same issue as with wifi before.

After this I have reboot the Hero, then it did not boot anymore.

It stucks in the HTC logo and not continue booting.

So tomorrow I will take it back to shop again, and I will try to change it to a new one. I think it is a hardware failure.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Dj_Frost:
Damn.... hard reset? :(

Is a hard reset the same as doing a factory restore using the option in the phone settings?

I guess this is just like doing a new firmware update, backup contacts and programs with mybackup but still having to re-do the home screens (all 7) and re-apply FB pics to contacts, etc.

This suxxxx
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Dj_Frost:
I really hope this isn't a hardware failure that is going to keep on happening. I think it is going to be related to the new firmware update if anything..

Cause before the update (performed 2 weeks ago) I was using the firmware that the phone brought and it was working perfectly on many different wifi networks all the time... this was for about a month or two...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] soulehmoo:
Why not sync your contacts with google?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Dj_Frost:
Because I have 1527 contacts in google contacts (basically everyone I've ever emailed for some reason... guess google auto adds them) and I don't want those to pass over to the phone... so I disabled the auto sync on contacts at the initial setup and just left it for gmail and calendar.

I had the same prob with my HTC Pro and winMO + MSN... it imported all my hundreds of msn contact to my phone contact list and it sucked! :(

Unless there is a specific subgroup in google contacts or way to make it so it only syncs/reads the ones I want it to?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] soulehmoo:
K for your contacts, go to people app groups tab create a group called phone. Add your contacts to this group then go back to the group tab press menu then 'sync groups' make sure only phone is checked. Enable contact sync and your away.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Dj_Frost:
Ok I went into the "All contacts" menu and then into the "Groups" tabs by using the bottom sliding menu. I then clicked on "add group" and created the group called HTC Hero. I went into the group , clicked menu button on the phone then clicked on the "Edit" option that popped up and it gave me the option to "add contact to group" so I added 62 contacts.

Now I'm stuck there... I've checked in the "all contacts" menu, the "Groups" tab, the "HTC Hero" group I created and hit the menu button on all of them but I get nothing that says "sync groups" or gives me the option to select which groups to sync.

The only thing I can ever find is by just going into the sync settings and having the gmail, calender and contacts "autc sync" checkmark.

Help :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] foxmeister:
It is easier than that.

Go into People, and then Groups. Press "Menu" and the "Sync Groups". I've never set up any groups, so I'm presented with two "default" groups:

1. Sync all contacts

2. My contacts

Ensure that only "My Contacts" is ticked and you should be good to go, as "My Contacts" only includes people you've explicitly set up as a contact, as opposed to everyone you've emailed or received email from.

Regards,

Dave

EDIT: I just noticed that you said you don't ever see the "Sync Groups" options. Possibly this is because you did not select the option to sync contacts when you initially set up the phone. Assuming you've a custom recovery image, I'd be inclined to make a nandroid backup and try wiping the phone and setting it up from scratch again - at least the initial stages to see if you can get "Sync Groups" to appear. If it doesn't do anything, you can restore your backup.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Dj_Frost:
Yup... maybe that's it.

Ok so to do a nandroid backup, do I need to root it? Cause I haven't done that.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] caliginous:
I had a similar problem after upgrading to the latest MoDoCo release. I tried everything bar hard reset. Lastly I removed the wifi networks that were listed in Wifi Settings and it fixed the issue. I later found out that whenever a BTOpenzone hotspot was remembered in my list of networks wifi would stop working, if I remove that hotspot wifi starts working again. No idea why.

Hope this can be of some help.

Dan
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Dj_Frost:
Holy hell... you got it!

So it looks like this is a bug of some sorts. I remember that the last wifi network I remembered was one off an APPLE airport or whatever device they use to share wireless connections... so that must have been it. If not maybe it was one in Bennigans (yes, it still exists down here in Panama).
[Hero, G2 Touch General] iborisenko:
Yeah, It works for me! Just delete remembered wifi connections and it will turn on! Thanks a lot, mate
[Hero, G2 Touch General] foxmeister:
No, you don't need to root it. You can boot off a different recovery image without actually having to flash it to the phone.

See the following guide: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4257045

At step 5, you should end up with your phone using a patched recovery image. As long as you don't go any further, you won't have made any permanent changes to your phone.

From here, you can create a nandroid backup on your SD card, and when wipe your device to reset it to factory conditions and set your phone up again to see if it solves your issue. If not, just boot back into this recovery console again and restore your backup.

Regards,

Dave
[Hero, G2 Touch General] podb:
Thanks for the hint about removing the remembered Wifi networks!

Worked like a charm for me!

P
[Hero, G2 Touch General] kuskens:
Thank you very much. :D

Forgetting the last wifi network worked for me to.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] fifedogg:
I'm so happy I found this thread. I was about to hard reset my phone until I found this. Thanks for the info it fixed my Wifi right away.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] androguns:
Forget remembered networks - works!

Forgetting remembered networks worked for me too.

To all those for whom this worked - did you installed any wifi scanner app from market?

The problem started for me after installed and then uninstalled Wi-fi Finder app from market. Might not be related, but worth checking what triggered the wifi issue.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] .mak:
This is the same version I posted on samsung-omnia.org for my old Omnia i910. It works great on my Touch Pro2 as well, so I thought I'd share it here.

I don't recall who originally packed the cab. I only take credit for weeding through all of the WLM versions available back when I had my Omnia to find a fully working version, and for finding that it works on the TP2.

I've tested this on my own Touch Pro 2 (details below, and in the screenshots) to find that all functions work properly. I have not tried this out on the GSM version. If someone would please try this on the following versions and PM me the results, I will add the details to the original post;

Sprint (CDMA)

Telus (CDMA)

TMobile (GSM)

Other (Please specify)

My ROM: WM Pro 6.1 (CE OS 5.2.21052 / Build 21052.1.6.5)

Carrier: Verizon Wireless (CDMA)

WLM Version: 10.6.0034.0800

Make sure you install this to your main memory, not 'My Storage' and not a MicroSD card.. the .dll's are mapped to work as if the application is installed in the main system memory, so you'll run into problems if you ignore this tip.

Also, this version

does

allow you to disable the contact syncing into your phonebook. It will ask you at the first startup/sign in, or you can change it in the options menu of the application while it's running.

If you sync your Windows Live contacts into your phonebook/phone contact list, do not manually delete them from there!! Simply run Windows Live Messenger -> Select Menu -> Windows Live -> Uncheck 'Store Windows Live Contacts in your mobile phone's contact list' -> Click 'DONE' -> Click 'Done' again -> Click 'Messenger' to get back to messenger.

The cab is attached below.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Mesquire:
My TP2 comes with WL version 10.6.0052.1300... so which is newer? What has been changed?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] orb3000:
No matter what version Messenger still with no significant changes, same old interface:mad:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] .mak:
My TP2 did not come with Live installed. I had to download it and it didnt come with messenger so I tried the version above, knowing it had messenger, and it worked.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] butler360:
I got mine off the MS site and it's 10.6.0053.1000
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Nagrom Nniuq:
Ya, I've got a newer version too.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] freaknormel:
Im using 10.6.0052.1300

And i dont see much difference
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] .mak:
My phone didn't come with Windows Live Mobile, and the version I downloaded previously from Microsoft did not come with a real messenger, it came with a link to the web-based (WAP) version. I just downloaded another version from wl.windowsmobile.com that does have the messenger.

Terribly sorry, but this was a highly sought after item for the Omnia i910 and when I downloaded the first version from Microsoft that had no working Messenger, I tried this one I posted on samsung-omnia.org awhile back to find it was working for the TP2 and it has the Messenger. By posting it here I was merely trying to help others out, because I didn't originally find the version you guys are using that has the Messenger.

If you don't want to use it, that's fine.. let it disappear into the abyss of threads.

-mak
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Mesquire:
.mak, where did you download your "first version from Microsoft"? Did you download it from here: http://mobile.microsoft.com/live/en-us/mobile/default.mspx?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Ludacrisvp:
My verizon phone came with the same link to the wap version of messenger and I will be using this because it looks like it is better than the old pocket msn that I downloaded to have a messenger application.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] ilordvader:
Before in 6.1 Windows live was like Google Maps

Tell us where we are & find shops around u on map

now it has Added Mesgr or its just messenger now ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] dannyedilber:
this is the lastest version from marketplace.. it really nice one its version 10.7.0057.802
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] ultremann:
Does anyone else have the problem with the Live Mobile app when they set the schedule to "as they arrive"? I noticed when I set this the app does not synchronize very often. I had to just revert back to the 15 minute sync schedule.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] quid246:
I'm a little green when it comes to 3G stuff, but please correct me if I am wrong...

Yes, you can put foreign SIM cards in US TP2's but not get 3G coverage in Europe. On the other hand from what I have read, European TP2's (even the unbranded ones) will not work with 3G is the US.

And if I am wrong... can someone please point me to a TP2 that will work on 3G networks in most of the world?

Or does one have to have two TP2's to enjoy 3G.. one for the US, and one for Europe, etc.?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Oh SoS:
Where have you heard that a NA TP2 won't work with 3G in EU?

The only limitation I'm aware of is a NA TP2 won't work w/ NA GSM 3G.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] acrh2:
Until someone hacks it :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] quid246:
I can't remember where I read it. But someone said if you wanted 3G in Europe, better to get a Euro unbranded model.

So perhaps this is under the assumption that it isn't hacked... not sure.

Slightly, off-topic Q but rather than start a new thread.... once a HardSPL is out for both the CDMA and GSM TP2's... will they effectively be "equal" devoces?

I really would like to pick-up a TP2 in the next few days... I like the VZ unit, but it's CDMA and since I travel quite a bit, really prefer and need more of a GSM phone, but don't like the TMO as no 3.5mm jack.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] iamrobk:
The Verizon unit already has international GSM bands unlocked, AND international (2100MHz 3G). If you've been a Verizon customer for 60 days or more you can call them up and get an unlock code for free and use any SIM card in your phone so you can get a cheap prepaid SIM and not pay the high Verizon roaming costs. There's also a small (I'd say around 25%) chance that the NA 3G bands will be found/unlocked, but at this point who really knows if they are there or not.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mmmhhh86:
Actually the Telus CDMA TP2 supports the European 3G bands but not the American ones becuase technically you will be using it in North America on CDMA and outside America on GSM. So its the other way around :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] christr:
It seems that if you have the Sprint TP2 that it won't register at all on US GSM networks, but comes unlocked by default.

On Verizon (which I have) a simple phone call to support they'll give you the unlock code and you're good to go. I use an Orange (UK) Sim in mine just fine in the US and others in other forums have reported that using US SIM's from TMobile/AT&T work fine also in the US.

--chris
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] TyTanIc:
TP2 = best 'World' phone I've ever owned.

I have an unbranded HTC factory TP2, and it works in 3G mode anywhere I take it that has the 3G network... and I travel all over the US/Caribbean and back to EU/UK. Have not found one spot it hasn't worked (inlcduing some of the very obscure Carib countries), and I like the fact that it automatically picks up HS when within range without having to change any settings.

Just have to make sure that your provider gives you a 3G SIM (most of them are these days) and that you have the 3G service enabled on your account in the respective country.

Many people say they can't pick it up yet don't have it on their account, or think that their EU provider will automatically provide it as part of the roaming service... which is not a good assumption to make.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mmmhhh86:
3G in North America? I doubt that. The phone does not support North American 3G bands. Are you sure it was 3G in North America??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] quid246:
Man, this is all confusing... I swear somebody has to come up with an HTML table of what phones work with what and where and stickify it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] LordLugard:
Can people just put this to bed already!!!

The Sprint (North America) TP2 is suppossed to be used on CDMA in the US and GSM worldwide, hence the GSM radio is unlocked for outside America GSM use. This is how it comes default. If that is so hard to grasp, then there is no hope for some, sadly.

As for the title, the TP2 is a world phone, it works in the US (and North Ameria) on CDMA and elsewhere unlocked on GSM. That to me is the true definition of a World phone from a U.S CDMA perspective (and especially moreso as this is the CDMA version).

To put it in perspective, a Sprint customer (in this case, moi) gets the best of CDMA in the U.S and when traveling to visit his sister in High Wycombe in the U.K (like i'll be doing this Autumm) gets to pop in a PAYG U.K sim in the same phone and use it while over there. This phone doesn't get any "worldlier" to me than this scenario!! :p

Is the O.P attempting to specifically define a dual mode CDMA/GSM-unlocked World phone as not world phone because it's locked by default from doing GSM in it's primary market which happens to be CDMA (and in this case Sprint)?

This is not rocket science folks, it really isn't. :mad:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] quid246:
Point taken. It's just that with that same Sprint phone (correct me if I am wrong), you can't travel to Canada pop in a Rogers SIM card and get Rogers 3G.

Wouldn't the phone want to swing towards it's CDMA cousin, Telus or Bell?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] .mak:
AT&T 3G runs on 850/1900 GSM, the TP2 supports both of those bands, how would it not work with 3G on AT&T in the US?

T-Mobile runs 3G on 1700/2100 GSM bands, both of which aren't included on the TP2, as far as my research has lead me to believe.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] agitprop:
Basically while it may be a quad band GSM phone, it is only a dual band 3G device. It comes in two flavours - UMTS 900+2100 or UMTS 1900+850

The 900/2100 version is far more common than 850/1900
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mmmhhh86:
It supports those bands for HSDPA CDMA not GSM 3G

Network	3G EVDO Rev A (800/1900 MHz), UMTS/HSPA (2100 MHz), GSM/ EDGE (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)

This is the Telus version btw
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] christr:
"it Depends" :)

The US CDMA phone operates in 3 modes.

1 CDMA Only

2 GSM Only

3 'Global' (whatever it can find).

If you have it in Global it will generally take the CDMA local carrier over anything else. However, not always. I've had mine switch to GSM for a bit then go back to CDMA. But mine is Verizon and unlocked so it works everywhere in the US and I also have a UK sim card in it. So I'm a little 'different'.

But, in any case, you can tell the phone which mode to use if you want. All upto you.

--chris

(verizon TP2)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rickyvee:
here we go again... (tp2 3g na)

"I have an unbranded HTC factory TP2, and it works in 3G mode anywhere I take it that has the 3G network... and I travel all over the US/Caribbean and back to EU/UK. Have not found one spot it hasn't worked (inlcduing some of the very obscure Carib countries), and I like the fact that it automatically picks up HS when within range without having to change any settings."

So, maybe he's wrong. But either way...

You wanna know why this keeps coming up again and again?

(not because we're all dumb and thick headed, which we may very well be)

But,

Because we just have trouble imagining them hardware "band amplifier" hobbling the hardware when it's so much easier to do it somewhere in firmware.

We all know that the less you fiddle with the hardware for multi-region functionality the less you have to fiddle with the production line and fiddling with the production line is the Last Thing a manufacturer wants to do.

Someone even once said that there wasn't room in the Rhodium platform for quad band data support. But now we're expecting the tilt 2 to do just that.

So, all protestations aside, those of us who paid ~700 us clams for this beauty, and who like the kbd layout.

And who have like me (as quite the Early Adopter), forked out for an sx56, sx66, 8135, x7510((quad band data)

Just feel a leetle wee bit of a sense, dare I say it, of Entitlement for the TP2 to be enabled into a fully world wide phone.

So we keep hunting, and digging, and dreaming, and .... posting.....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] drae1980:
well here is my two cents i have the original unlocked euro version of the tp2 and all i get in the us it edge. it is really impossible to get 3g in the US (2100) because this version of the phone literally does not have the attena for it. and so that you can see all the different types of tp2s and the technical and physical differences between them here is a link: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacom...&id3=1792&id4=1829&id5=1766&id6=1989&id7=1751
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] karandras24:
3g in the USA must be on the 1700 band then, as thats the only gsm band that the euro version doesn't support.

Euro version

GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS900, UMTS2100

TMOUS version

GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS1700, UMTS2100
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mugsy77:
Anyone know of a good site to order a prepaid SIM card? I plan on using my VZW TP2 in Spain and France. I was also wondering if I should or could disable data and use my TP2 with Garmin XT so I don't get nailed for data usage. Your thoughts would be appreciated...

Mugs
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] supercharge1:
I also ran into this fun little problem when i picked up this phone. Im in canada on the rogers network. and no 3g for me. rickyvee said it just like it is
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bpm2000:
And doesn't turn on? This happens to me here and there. After it does the buzzes and doesn't actually turn the phone on, I have to wait a bit sometimes to try the power button again. And idea what the deal is?

It doesn't happen a lot (only a few times iirc) but it just happened to me today so I thought I would ask.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Farmer Ted:
I dunno, that's weird. I remember getting in a weird boot cycle a few months ago that could only be cured by a hard reset. I can't remember what I did, but it was probably dumb. Is it just happening on one particular rom, or is it rom independent? Have you done anything dumb lately, lol? Do you have a bunch of apps running at startup? I guess that could cause problems.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] brutel1:
I think I've had this happen if I soft reset and hold the volume up button (or maybe down). Then I have to wait a bit and it press the power button. No harm, but freaked me out when it happened.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bpm2000:
haha nothing too dumb, and been using NRG roms for a while now (had it happen once on the 6.1 rom, and now on the 6.5 so take that as you will...)

I wonder if im hitting an extra button or something - thx for the idea brutel1
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] macaraballojr:
Don't know how often you receive messeges. But i have had this happen to me a few times n its been the result of a notification of some sort being received. i would get the normal 1 buz then a few others while the phone was booting up