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[G1 Apps and Games] deafptl4ever:
Do not go back to stock

It is sad to see some people are panicing and trying to get their phones back to stock before they rooted their phones. Even if Cyanogen were not ever allowed to make another rom update, in which I do not believe the case, we still have a fantastic phone. Cyanogens latest 4.1.11.1 rom mod will always be way better than anything TMO puts out for the G1. TMO said they would have 3 updates. Two large and one small. We had one large, the 1.5, and the small one in which was the security update. The last large update was the soon to be 1.6 Donut. Cyanogen's 4.1.11.1 already has that and much more! If we never get another update from Cyanogen, dont go back to stock for crying out loud. The 4.1.11.1 is way far ahead than the last Donut update thats coming out. There are not going to be anymore updates for the G1. The Android 2.0 is going to the Android Shole for Verizon. I am just feeling very blessed that I have Cyanogens latest build on my phone. My phone now will always be far superior than what TMO and Android has for the G1. Dont be stipid and go back to the original stock man. You will quickly see what a mistake that is. Cyanogen, if we never get an update for our G1, in which I dont believe will be the case, I say thanks from the bottom of my heart for making my cell phone, the G1, far greater than it was meant to be!!!!:)
[G1 Apps and Games] theartar:
Rated 4.99 out of 5 stars

http://www.cyrket.com/package/com.mhuang.savecyanogenmod

OK, which one of you rated it 4 stars? :p
[G1 Apps and Games] Meltus:
Surely they only sent this letter because he included the new Market app, otherwise they'd have sent a C&D to EVERY ROM developer! If this is the case, why doesn't he simply remove it and wait for google to release it publicly.

They quite clearly don't care about us rooting are phones or they'd remove all the root-required apps from the market, i think they wanted to release they're new market but cyanogen beat them to it :p
[G1 Apps and Games] bbuchacher:
Save Cyanogen Group on Facebook

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=144634407186&ref=ts
[G1 Apps and Games] wngmv:
Why close the poll??
[G1 Apps and Games] Mr. Moe:
Here's what I don't understand. Google freaks out bcuz cyan put the new market in his ROM. I say Google follow the path HTC did when their HERO/ROSIE SENSE UI was being flashed onto G1's before any Carrier had it on a device. HTC sat back, watched learned and started working on tweaks, upgrades to make it what the end user wanted and faster with the FREE reviews from Testers...US...

No scouring for knowledgable/capable testers, no paying for their travel and lunch, and no paying for legal to write up some document for some lil snot nose kid to sign saying he/she wouldn't disclose what they saw.

And lookwhat happened, HERO finally was released and people paid upwards of $600 dollars to have it. These indidviduals were G1 owners who had the HERO ROM on their devices and had to have HERO.

Free publicity, and money in the bank

So Google sit back, relax, read some forum posts about your new market, You're releasing it as a FREE update anyway, it is not like Cyan is taking any money out your pockets.....see what your free think-tank/testers are talking about .... make changes to it from info gathered from the comments on here and other forums and bask in the fact testing didn't cost you anything.

Just my 2cents
[G1 Apps and Games] kizer:
Straight from androidandme

[20:03] <cyanogen> google just cease and desisted me

[20:15] <cyanogen> cyanogenmod is probably going to be dead

[20:16] <cyanogen> i’m opening a dialogue with them

[20:20] <cyanogen> no they are talking specifically about the closed-source google apps

[20:20] <cyanogen> and how i am not licensed to distribute them

[20:20] <cyanogen> my argument is that i only develop for google-experience devices which are already licensed for these apps

[20:20] <cyanogen> so we’ll see what they say

[20:20] <cyanogen> maybe we can work something out

[20:24] <cyanogen> maps, market, talk, gmail, youtube

I just don't get why everybody is going insane about this. Remove the closed source apps and walla back in business.
[G1 Apps and Games] cduncan1:
Google - your being dumb

We buy the open source (Android) phone, on a wopping contract, because we would be able to change and update the software!!! developed by these great great devs.

As long as Android does stay truely open, I'll buy the latest shiny device as soon as my contract alows.

But if Google want to clamp down on these things we will all look elseware for our future devices and Operating Systems.

As said in previous posts, Google should make use of this sites greatest resource. Free feedback.

If they were to start there own review thread on this site they would get so much constructive critism, it would save them a fortune.

So give CyanogenMod and us a break.
[G1 Apps and Games] Devnex:
http://twitter.com/cyanogen

Its over :(
[G1 Apps and Games] lucky 69:
lol you beat me to it yep it's done!!!!!!!!
[G1 Apps and Games] Hexxer:
wtf...google is stealing news, stealing books and safe everything inside her computers - but if there is a project that is so much better, faster and smoother as all of this what they can do she stop it in case of "its illegal".

What a worst day for the community, everyone should stop the f...ing development of anything about android. The real looser of this **** is the user. Unbelievable...
[G1 Apps and Games] prince.siraj:
dude absolutely nothing's over... we just don't get the closed-source apps... only thing that really hurts is not having the Market... so hopefully you had everything else you wanted from the Market cuz we're not allowed to have it anymore... oh wait Google can't actually check who has it on their phones. not yet at least...
[G1 Apps and Games] prince.siraj:
you, sir, are brilliant :)
[G1 Apps and Games] johnt2k:
i dont understand what people are overreacting about in the first 4 pages:confused:

So let me get this straight. Google isnt going to let Cyanogen ship his roms with google apps now.

how does that help google ??? i mean how many thousand people have Cyanogen Roms on their phones let alone more using other Roms like JAC RODGERS DRIZZy. and if all those people now cant use market that means Google is loosing money

but if Google wants to hurt the community by taking away their free beta testing that we do now then that is their decision and im sure we will find another Open Source ways to distribute apps weather it be sites like anda.pk or torrents or FTP

and another thing android is not just Google its a Alliance between many companys, so this means that maybe in a few months when samsung or lg or any other handset provider decides to make a phone will make their own software and their own form of Market and app distribution its not all locked to Google
[G1 Apps and Games] shagge68:
Downloaded as soon as I heard about it on Twitter. I can't see any difference in HTC, Samsung, Motorola, or anyone else putting these apps in their builds and Cyanogen doing it. I am amazed that they are putting such a big road block in the way of one of the most innovative people in the world to get their hands on Android.

All this does is stop 1 man from "pirating" their apps and forces all of us to do it with all of their apps individually.
[G1 Apps and Games] Jar0b_:
I hope this isnt going to end here...
[G1 Apps and Games] thepeng:
@johnt2k

In a couple of weeks there will be non google android hardware out there, namely the htc hero on sprint, then moto cliq etc etc. Google gets licensing fees for those apps on their google experience phones from carriers. When custom roms are bundled with google apps a sprint user could flash cyans mod and get those apps without having paid the licensing fees through purchase of a goog experience phone. is why.
[G1 Apps and Games] johnt2k:
ok but any one can do that anyway if some one rooted their hero they could put a 1.5 tmobile build android on and run it and get google apps and that has nothing to do with cyanogen or any other ROM Developer
[G1 Apps and Games] your_helpfull_hand:
Why is this able to stay in the dev section and not transfered to the app section?
[G1 Apps and Games] johnt2k:
because at this point if we dont figure this out this section will no longer exist :mad:
[G1 Apps and Games] your_helpfull_hand:
Thats not true. Its an App thread not a Dev thread though
[G1 Apps and Games] coolbho3000:
Why are you policing all my threads? You got one locked probably because the mod didn't look at it after they read your report. :)

Please stop, okay? You don't know what you're talking about.
[G1 Apps and Games] your_helpfull_hand:
It got locked because i was right. i agree with you posting that thread just do it in the right area is all I'm saying. And i still agree with you posting it yet again in the Dream section.
[G1 Apps and Games] grokdesigns:
Let Dan Morrill know how you feel via Twitter!

http://twitter.com/morrildl
[G1 Apps and Games] android_geoff:
if our phones ran smoothly in the first place then we wouldnt need to overclock our phones and add aps2sd. how can you offer a phone with downloadable applications and only have 78mb of space?

and yes the mytouch has 256mb but im not going to spend 400 on a new phone because ive had my g1 for less than a year an i dont get a discount

the only way this phone is usable and fast is with root

we dont even have multi touch without root
[G1 Apps and Games] thepeng:
Back @ johnt2k yeah but up until now there havent been any droid phones in the us besides the google phones, so anyone running a custom build had already started with google apps. It was a moot issue. Also, they targetted our beloved cyanogen but the implications effect every rom dev, all of them package some form of google stuff, our phones are busted without it.
[G1 Apps and Games] miketaylor00:
Please Contact Google to Voice Your Opinion

Yes, Google has a right to protect their intellectual property. But like all companies they are driven by profit. If they realize that this is hurting their image they will change their stance. Please contact Google on Monday Sept. 28th. We need to jam their phone lines, fill up their email boxes, and make our voice heard. Get everyone you can to help out with this.

http://www.google.com/contact/
[G1 Apps and Games] wngmv:
Or, profit.

Definitely would do. Let's organize a forum wide protest. We should totally jam their phone lines.
[G1 Apps and Games] Ryanmo5:
How about save cyanogen, jac, drizzy, enomther, twistedumbrella and all the other rom developers??? This affects them all.
[G1 Apps and Games] liamhere:
you have hit the nail on the head!
[G1 Apps and Games] liamhere:
now be nice....i have to say you do seem to be following the other member from thread to thread.

if there are problems here thats what us mods are here for.

thank you and have a nice weekend
[G1 Apps and Games] bartman1973:
say it out loud!

This app is good!

But I wonder if google is ganne read it.....

Let's all post in as manny marked apps as whe can!!!!

So that everyone using android hear us!
[G1 Apps and Games] TimVasko:
I think that trying to intimidate (or "push") google is not smart. You may want to make your voice heard some way other than "petitions" and useless applications on market. Nobody is going to change the license, out of concept and principle for which these licenses exist in the first place.

Google is very cautious and understanding when it comes to it's software and innovative technology; however they do need to remain in control of their creations.

This issue should have never become public in the first place, and it should have taken place behind the scenes. The outcome is you guys.

All the developers out there (and I am not referring to angry users, all you really can do is complain), but the devs - should you wish to alleviate this particular issue, you can do something quite simple (and not really simple at all) is create open-source equivalents to the commercial applications out there (other than market). So openGMail, openYouTube, openGoogleProgramEquivalent, and add Market. If I recall correctly, market was never part of google's concern as an unlicensed distribution (other than releasing the new market before it's planned release).

This would be a constructive response to such an issue, not market petitions and empty complaints.

Ponder on that, and don't complain before thinking, please.

Tim

P.S. Please don't pollute the market because you're unhappy, what a dumb idea. This will get worked out without you; Throwing trash on the side of the road is only going to enrage other people, and won't accomplish anything.
[G1 Apps and Games] Draxter:
Got this installed as well.
[G1 Apps and Games] Shane2:
Have to say I am unbelievably disappointed by this news, I have installed the app and commented, as well as joined the Facebook group. If Google don't rethink this, then I will never be buying another Android powered device again out of principle.
[G1 Apps and Games] cj chitwood:
[Continued from above]

And yes, I do believe Google was in their legal right to serve a C&D, but I do also believe that regardless of legal rights they should have tried "less official" methods of contact first (e.g., personal e-mail request and explanation, etc.) before just jumping to "stop it or else". Frankly, I'd like to read the actual text of the C&D verbatim. All I've seen was second and third hand information so far. I do agree this probably would have been best handled in private between Steve and Google. I also agree polluting the market isn't the way to go, which is another reason I don't typically like "petition" apps. However, what's done is done. Let's move on, upward, and forward.

Hopefully this is just a hiccup in the Android community. I fully believe it will pass within days and an amicable, mutually beneficial arrangement can be realized.

Steve: Keep up the good work!

Cheers!
[G1 Apps and Games] cj chitwood:
I've done a little more reading in more technical forums... very little, but I've done some nonetheless. It appears that Android simply WILL NOT BOOT on some devices without proprietary bits in the code that our Dreams, Sapphires, etc. use. One person suggests it boots fine on devices like an OpenMoko, but that's open hardware, for which drivers can easily be written because devs have access to the specs. Maybe this means Cyanogen can make ROMs, but they won't work on our phones because we don't have hardware drivers available for them due to the closed nature of the hardware.

That said...

I know many drivers for PC hardware have been written after reverse engineering the PC hardware, and I don't *think* there were any legal issues with that... Just saying...
[G1 Apps and Games] coolbho3000:
That information is in the application as of 1.2. Disconnect and many others have said that AOSP by itself will not work on any device in its current state without proprietary binaries.

Sure, Google has every right to request that their intellectual property . What the community doesn't understand (and Google has not offered a clear explanation for this) is why they are doing this. The speculation about the 1.6 Market is just that - speculation. The cease and desist order came at a time when Cyanogen was starting to gain momentum. Perhaps Google wanted to stop the distribution of Market and their other binaries then. They've allowed these custom ROMs to float around for a year without sending any cease and desists.

The Google applications are so embedded into the current Android experience that, in my opinion, Android is terribly crippled without them (the Android Market application being arguably the most important one). Google and the carriers seem to think so too. From day one, stock T-Mobile G1 users have been required to sign into Google in order to even access their phone. Sure, Google isn't "stopping Cyanogen from producing ROMs," but rather, they're "stopping Cyanogen from producing ROMs that are actually worthwhile to use." And that's almost just as bad.

The HTC RIL and other closed source and proprietary portions will be very hard to replicate and will take quite a bit of technical ingenuity without solid hardware documentation. There's no telling whether free and open source implementations of it (and other such drivers) will ever be written. Interest in HTC's Qualcomm 72XX Android platform (of which the Dream and Magic are part of) will dwindle as new devices are released. Even if they are written, this is still a major setback. Who knows how long the process will take?
[G1 Apps and Games] maxdamage2122:
If you don't already know google released a ADC2 app to download submitted apps and review/rate them. Anyone get any good apps from it?

link: http://www.cyrket.com/package/com.google.android.challenge
[G1 Apps and Games] maxdamage2122:
bump. its hard to believe no one cares about this.
[G1 Apps and Games] G1-evolve:
I could care less about GOOGLE and their challenges now to be honest. After what happened with Cyanogen. Pssh..
[G1 Apps and Games] TomasTrek:
If you "could care less", why are you not taking part? Oh.. because you mean "couldn't care less".

Yeah what happened to Cyanogen sucks, but I wish everyone would stop acting so childish about it. He was wrong. End of story. Move on with life. It's not like it's really that difficult to get the things back in anyway.

I've been judging apps for this all day. Come by a few good ones but most are not that original really. I've been checking the ADC2 website every day waiting for them to announce the judging app release. Can't believe it's out and they didn't even post it on there.
[G1 Apps and Games] jashsu:
This perversion of the popular axiom irritates the hell out of me too.

Anyway, has anyone actually been issued any decent apps for review? I saw an ADC2 version of Spreadsheet and that's about it. Kinda disappointed in the deluge of kinda 'meh' apps.

Let's keep this thread on topic.
[G1 Apps and Games] G1-evolve:
Both of you look slow, because I SAID I could care less, and I MEANT what I said. Never said I wasn't going to compete. :rolleyes:
[G1 Apps and Games] maxdamage2122:
@g1-evolve stop jackin the thread

I haven't gotten a single good app. In fact they are all crap.
[G1 Apps and Games] uberingram:
I uninstalled it after a few days. Nothing good came across. Extremely disappointing. That seems to be the trend this week.
[G1 Apps and Games] TomasTrek:
I got Ping2Locate, which was kind of cool but not really original. That's the best of what I received so far. There was a book library but the scanner just continually took pictures until it found a bar code rather than waiting until one was present in the way BCScanner & ShopSavvy do.

Then there was the endless stream of crap.

One of the most pointless I got was this "unique new media interface". Sounded exciting. It actually turned out to be almost insulting, considering the prize money on offer. It was 4 images taking up a quater of the screen each. One was a season. Pressing changed the image to represent a different season. Another one (I can't even remember what the image was) began to play music and spin the images around. The other two were labelled "M" and "V" which just looked on your SD card for music or video.

Seems like I would have had a good chance at winning if I'd just submitted Hello World.

I guess now I know why they never bothered to announce on the ADC2 site that the judging app was available...
[G1 Apps and Games] uberingram:
I would have voted it all 5's considering the crap we were seeing.
[G1 Apps and Games] Wysie:
There're some good apps in there, come on :)!
[G1 Apps and Games] Treytor:
I run PrankDialer.com, and have an app in the ADC2 running right now - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rFJDnXw4Ew
[G1 Apps and Games] jonc:
Yeah, I was using it since sunday, hoping that I'd be able to try some really exciting apps.

Instead I got loads of junk apps, games, even one who's description was 'create user table'. I'm hoping that in the later rounds that they will have been filtered out.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] schizophrenia:
Anyone notice that there is a IM (a process, not shown on applications) going on if you open the Advanced Taks Manager list, on a hero?

and the process name is just "IM" and from the look of the icon it is an instant messenger. Does anyone know if there is such an App? I can't find in when i open the apps library but it shows up as a process.

and does anyone know what is this?

Thanks.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] mcall_r:
bump for this!
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] gurry:
shoot me down if this is a massive assumption BUT

Is this a instant updater for your google mail account? I didnt think I had push mail activated but when I get a new email in gmail I get an instant notification.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] schizophrenia:
The Gmail built-in is Push Mail already, correct me if I am wrong.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] gurry:
Perhaps IM is incoming messages? I see IM and think instant message.

Failing that does taskiller not show whats running?
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] schizophrenia:
not really.

that IM process I see has the same icon as the google talk icon, like 2 conversational bubbles with one red and one blue.
[General Questions and Answers] cmoyer4:
OK, so I was running a JF release, then thought I'd roll back to RC29, re-root, and install hero (per the numerous pages of instructions)... well in the process my phone became completely useless. So... with nothing seeming to work, i went into fastboot and flashed the SDK1.5 images to my G1... now Android will load, but I have no SDcard access (except through recovery and adb push)... I have no actual voice/data (the phone is just in development mode, of course). I also can't load any updates through the recovery mode. Fastboot mode will not link up with my command line fastboot on the computer (thought i'd just erase the partitions and then re-image with non-sdk images). Anyone have any suggestions?
[General Questions and Answers] orb3000:
Welcome to forums

Wiki has saved my device more than one time, so have a deep read:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=564269

Good luck,
[myTouch 3G, Magic Apps and Games] gunsuper:
Dear All,

My Magic hardware information is as followed:

-PVT32A SHIP

-SPL 1.33.0009H

-Radio 3.22.xx (Default one)

Then I performed the following operations:

1.Back+Power => Recovery mode

2.fast boot recovery.img (cyanogen 1.4 port 32A)

3.wipe data and factory setting (format data and cache partition)

4.install update.zip (4.1.11.1 kernel + port 32A)

5.install media.zip (ringtones+mp3 samples)

6.install CIME.zip (Chinese input method)

system reboot => android robot logo => configuration

Then I change the region and location to Traditional Chinese and enable touchpad input. Although there is only one keyboard can be chosen, android keyboard.

So when I tried to key some words like google search, I can only type

alphabets, symbols and numbers but there doesn't pad "Chinese hand write".

I remembered that there is "hand write button pad" on keyboard before I

update to cyanogen and used Magic default ROM.

So what I want now is that I want to remove the default "android keyboard" from cyanogen build and install HTC Keyboard with chinese hand write and chinese input.

It seems that it doesn't work even I install HTC_CIME.apk and remove "system\app\latin_ime.apk" and HTC_IME.apk (english one). It will force to quit if I type the word in keyboard.

Does anyone experience this issue before and share with me how to remove android keyboard and install keyboard with chinese hand write like Magic one.

thanks !!!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Apps and Games] farbird:
tap and hold on any txt input board and magic will appear