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[Touch GSM General] darkstar62:
Guys --

You act as if porting Android to the Elf is an easy task. Let me tell you why there isn't a ROM for Elf yet.

First, absolutely EVERY working Android phone (released or otherwise) uses a different processor and board architecture than the elf. Most of the ported devices are CLOSE ENOUGH to the released devices that a port is easy.

The elf does not fit this. The elf has VASTLY different hardware, and is only now starting to have Linux support. Nevermind Android, which isn't even designed to run on devices like the elf.

Those ports you see out there? They were made primarily by ripping the ROM from another similar Android device and copying it on. THAT WILL NOT WORK for us. Believe me, I've tried.

Second, for those complaining about lack of sound, bluetooth, or other hardware...that stuff is all controlled by the Linux kernel, NOT Android. As I mentioned before, we're just starting to have decent Linux kernel support, but there's two or three people tops working on it with any regularity. Expecting things like sound drivers to materialize out of nowhere, when we don't have specs or any help from the hardware manufacturers is totally unrealistic. Of course there's nothing stopping you from contributing to make it happen.

THIS STUFF IS HARD TO DO! We're trying to load an operating system onto a device that was never intended to run it. Further, we're trying to cram an OS that wasn't designed to run on hardware like ours. It won't happen over night, and complaining certainly doesn't help. If you want to get involved, great! We'd be glad to have you. But if all you want to do is run Android on your device and not contribute a thing to it, please consider buying one of the many available Android phones instead of contributing negative comments. All the comments do is demoralize what few developers we do have.

Let me reiterate -- No currently available Android ROMs will work with the elf. Wing Linux has the only Android image right now that will, and we're SERIOUSLY low on active developers. So be patient or contribute. It'll happen, but not over night.

Now. If you'd like to help us, great! We're always in need of testers for all the devices. And, if you're feeling brave, you can help us with code. Even if these aren't your things, we need help in a lot of other areas too. Our documentation is basically non-existent. Management of the website is done completely by me, so it's not always up to date. And that's just a couple things we need help with. So please, give us a hand! It'll make doing this easier, and we'll have a nice system that everyone can use.

For those who want to try coding, take a look at our development site -- it should hopefully give you what you need to get started (and if it doesn't, we need to update it!)

- d
[Touch GSM General] captainstu72:
Sorry it has come to this darkstar62 - Although on the plus side I am willing to help (i need to read up on a few things before I will be more use to anyone)

If there is anything I can do for documentation give me a shout, I only have a bit of time in my lunch, but as I said before in this thread I will be willing to help - even if that is just to explain to people in here things and point them in the right direction (I have been trying to but some people really make me wonder why they are even on these forums)

I want to get an understanding of how Android works behind the scenes before I try and help code etc - I have seen that you have linked up with another group, and that testing needs to be done for the elf. I will send you a PM in a min with my e-mail in - at present I don't have an IRC client but I will try and get one sorted so I can access on my lunch at work.
[Touch GSM General] alan_s:
hit me up for testing...cant code for s@#t but i can test:)..pm me or something and tell me what you need me to do to help! i want this as much as the next guy!
[Touch GSM General] physicaal:
All my Support
[Touch GSM General] clany:
any news update?
[Touch GSM General] arungk2:
elfin failing to install

I installed the big file first then the smaller one on to my storage card and then ran Linux from the programes.my free card memory is 712 mb. I am installing on elfin running an onyx 6 rom running I think 6.5. but i am getinng stuck repeatedly here.
[Touch GSM General] sonalswaroop:
hi all

i hv been a silent spectator to this android on elf/elfin scene for about 3-4 months now.... trying out the builds n fiddling with them... i just had a thought in mind that can the psfreedom that is the ps3 jailbreak which was recently ported into android devices and very recently to the htc hd2(i.e. by running android just lyk we run it here on our phones) be ported into this version of android...?? cuz the hack requires the device plugged it at all tyms so better port to older devices which wont hamper our daily use....

thanks ..
[Touch GSM General] sonalswaroop:
nyone out here??
[Touch GSM General] SnakeMAR:
Hi, I think nobody can help you. I have a HTC Touch Elf too, but impossible to root it in android...

Cannot launch the PSfreedom created for another HTC... because i can't do:

$su

maybe if we root the device, we can do it...

any idea?

PS: sorry for my bad english!
[Touch GSM General] fafenstein:
No one have a trick to be $su in the console ?

Thx
[Touch GSM General] rbart:
I have seen that FROYO is available for HTC Touch CDMA;

Do you think it is possible to adapt it to GSM ?
[Touch GSM General] minedune:
Keep the good work going

Dear Developers.

Keep the good work going. we hope and pray you find solutions to the long waiting eagerness of the people trying here.

Best of luck.
[Touch GSM General] sonalswaroop:
if ever we root it we cannot use the psfreedom made for the other htc devices as most of the ones that have psfreedom use the mUsb driver while the touch/vogue uses the msm75k driver.... it has been ported to the msm72k driver which is very similar to ours..... but the code out there is completely out of my bounds to port it to the elf/elfin/vogue.....

well there is a good news.... the psfreedom developers hv added our phones to the psfreedom device compatibility list with the development status as unknown... so if people out there start noticing it then a port should be coming soon.....

the device compatibility list : http://psfreedom.com/wiki/index.php?title=Device_compatibility_list

so the best we can do now is wait and wait and wait......
[Touch GSM General] sonalswaroop:
yippee!!! now the device compatibility lists our phone status as ' In Progress '....!!!

and kakaroto 's github graph shows he is doing a lot of work on the msm72k driver series...!!

finallly..... looks like its gonna happen real soon....

and it was worth the wait!!....
[Touch GSM General] jamen:
I added the vogue to the list to be an eyesore, and hopefully get someone motivated to take care of it.

I listed it as unknown, then someone changed it to in progress. So it's looking good. I'd sure like to find a use for this POS vogue and take care of my POS PS3 issues at the same time.
[Touch GSM General] sonalswaroop:
thanks pal.... really appreciate that...

nyways if u added it to the list.... can u find out the name of the developer who changed it to in progress??? that we people out on him could urge him a little more to fasten up the work.... hw needs to know that quite a lot of people will be benefited by this...

thanks nyways.
[Touch GSM General] sonalswaroop:
why is everyone so slow out here to reply...?? we should be enthusiastic!!!
[Touch GSM General] jeremy89632:
Elfin is a legacy device. But the Wing Linux dev's is very supportive :)

Send me a PM with all the updates if you need me to update the first page.

Thanks!
[Touch GSM General] caballero600:
Where can I find those news?
[Touch GSM General] rushikesh_ware:
Fingers crossed and praying :o
[Touch GSM General] stianxxs:
How do you turn off switch the Sim Password?
[Touch GSM General] stianxxs:
I'll answere my own question, after some hour spent searching, i finally did find it out, this is how to get Mobile network, carrier, then you can call, send sms and surf with android.

1. Go into Windows Mobile, go to phone or press call button (green one) --> menu --> option and go to tab "PIN/PIN2" and disable PIN from there..

Hope this helps, now you can call from android
[Touch GSM General] CptAJ:
This breaks my heart. Legacy device -_-

Come on guys, I can't afford a proper droid phone right now >_>
[Touch GSM General] thebobsters:
hi

i tried to install that rom on my micro sd , and it fail and freez during the install , after reset my micro sd can not be seen anymore by my phone , pc , laptop , multi card reader , , it is an Patriot card 4gb class 6 ,

is there anything i can possibly do to save this card ??

thanks in advance
[Touch GSM General] ArmEagle:
I haven't checked this thread for some time and look how far you guys have gotten already! I guess I just have to try this out myself soon.

The current status tells that Wireless isn't working yet. But with that usblan program you can apparently setup a network connection over USB to android. Can't android use that same connection (perhaps with internet connection sharing enabled in Windows) to connect to Internet?
[Touch GSM General] ArmEagle:
It worked!

I might have messed up the screen calibration though (if there is one to click the top-right corner, then i tapped twice on the first top-left by accident). It seems to work, but I'm not completely sure.

But unless I'm missing something, I cannot choose 'Power off' in the popup. I think I tried all buttons and none of them seems to work as a 'choose this/activate' key and using the stylus doesn't work for this menu (or it doesn't really work at all, see above). I can only go up&down this short list with the joystick keys.

So, what key haven't I tried yet, or is there only the option of pulling out the battery pack? doh, I can just do a soft reset.
[Touch GSM General] captainstu72:
Hold down the hang up button? This is detailed in the first post. You may find you need to tweak some setting sin spare parts etc, as I had an issue with one of mine that holding down hang up would lock android, and bring up the menu. All this meant was I'd then have to unlock and then press the button to turn off.

Also, for the screen calibration, you can modify a file to reset it, this is included in the first post.
[Touch GSM General] ArmEagle:
Sorry, I wasn't clear enough I guess. I only mentioned the calibration issue to note that I couldn't use the touchscreen to choose entries in menus. I guess I should have mentioned that I already fixed it the second time.

And further down it does list the red/end button to open the Power menu. That works just fine. But no button on my phone will let me 'select'/'activate' any entry in the 'Phone options' menu the red button opens. Only by using the touch screen I can select an option.

I'd think the center/Menu button would act as a 'select' in this situation. Though maybe I'm reflecting my WM use on Android too much.

By the way, thanks for that 'Spare Parts' tip. That did make it easier to go open the 'Phone options' menu.

I've only started Android like this 3 times now. And two times I closed it using the Power Off function. But both those times using the power button wouldn't turn the phone back on until I removed and put back the battery pack. But maybe this is what's meant with the not working ' "Power Off" phone'. Soft-resetting while still in Android, as mentioned in the start of the first post, did work just fine though.

Also when I return to Windows Mobile, the clock will have an offset, continuing where it left off, even though Android kept the time itself just fine. (Edit: only seems to happen when I try to power off - so above comment applies here too, might not 'supposed' to work yet - works fine when using a soft reset)

Just reporting the issues I encounter.
[Touch GSM General] captainstu72:
ahh okay, sorry fi I misunderstood part of your post.

The center button should act as a select/enter/confirm button from what I can remember.

One thing I will say is don't base your view on android on this port. Whilst it is great that the guys are working on this and have a build running, it is no way an indication fo what it can do. I use Android everyday on my main phone, and it blows winmo out of the water in every way!
[Touch GSM General] ArmEagle:
I'll try again next time I play with it.

Oh no worries. My next phone won't be WM7 or an iPhone, so it's either Android or a different Linux based phone. After all I can only call with the current version and it's only Android 1.5, while 2.2 is out now. But it is certainly nice to try it for a moment.

Thanks for your responses.
[Touch GSM General] spxc:
I got the 2.2 files from vouge if anyone is interested to help me port it to Elf/Elfin :D Contact me on PM, BIG thanks to the Android elf/elfin team!
[Touch GSM General] spxc:
Re-Install

Hi, you need to re-install both of the packages. Be sure to install both of the packages on your SD card! Hit me up if it still doesn't work
[Touch GSM General] verysmartncool:
Sound?

Hey ... I haven't seen any update in a long time. Is the project to get sound on it still in progress? Or is it abandoned?

I am a programmer and would like to contribute on sound, however I have no idea where to start :p , If somebody can guide me on starting points I may be able to contribute.
[Touch GSM General] gp.triple:
hi the project it's alive but the developement is slow

now working to making the upstream kernel

here the info to start to develop

or join in the irc
[Touch GSM General] bobbinz:
Rotation?

Is it possible to rotate the screen, form portrait to landscape?
[Touch GSM General] 6run93:
Can't wait for it ...

I had try using android installer v2.2 and there were a lot of malfunctions.

I hope the latest one is perfect.

Thanks
[Touch GSM General] alexsainz:
I can't see apn points that I created, someone has the solution?
[Touch GSM General] ArmEagle:
If you read the first post: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4439597&postcount=1

A bit down you can read that 'wireless' is one of several features not working yet (might be confusing since a bit above that it lists 'Audio/wifi support', but that doesn't go for this model yet).
[Touch GSM General] alexsainz:
ahh wireless include gprs?
[Touch GSM General] gp.triple:
someone have tried to compile the upstream kernel for testing?
[Touch GSM General] setsuyang:
Sorry guys, newbie here from HongKong :D

when i hit ''haret-0.5.2 ''on my HTC Touch,

it showed an error message of '' Could not open executable''

how to solve this problem?

Actually where should i put these files in my sd card?

1.wing-linux-0.4.2-elf

2.wing-linux-0.4.2-rootfs

i doubted if i put them in the right place of my sd card.....

[sry, silly questions]
[Touch GSM General] thunder.blake:
how long do u think u ll take to get all the other apps such as sound camera ...etc working???
[Touch GSM General] vtecv12:
i hope the new version will be better
[Touch GSM General] Elf1n:
Patience

I hope there will be a new release... of course V0.5 will be better than the previous ;-)
[Touch GSM General] sotospt52:
Hello i have the same problem here. i have search everywhere and i haven't found anything.:confused:

anyone can help??
[Touch GSM General] Fish_with_feet:
Need Help

Hi Team,

Im Johnny from Phil, am a newbie with a HTC Elfin and i have really very limited knowledge with the gadget world. Now, i did install the linux by following all the instructions here (including the original thread). Booted fine however, problem is the touch screen is not functioning properly, let say if iam using the dialer and im trying to press the no. 9 a diff no. will be entered in the phone, navigating is also a big problem whether with a stylus or just by swiping my finger. Hope the team can help me... your response is highly appreciated. Thanks!!

*pardon the terms i used, am really not familiar with the tech terms.:o
[Touch GSM General] captainstu72:
check the main thread in rom dev. there is a way to get it to re calibrate your phone on boot. You need to modify a file. I forget which but it is in there.
[Touch GSM General] abhineo:
PSfreedom - Ps3 Jailbreak

Hi,

Anyone has tried using HTC touch Elfin as PS3 Jailbreak/Downgrade device using linux? Will it work?
[Touch GSM General] captainstu72:
Pretty sure you need a custom bootloader on for that which I am not sure exists for the elf, considering we launch android from WinMo, opposed to from NAND.
[Touch GSM General] isak88:
help me !!! i accidently turn off my phone, and now i dont now how to TURN ON !!!

help me please !!!!
[Touch GSM General] captainstu72:
Had this too. Pull battery, put back in, try now. If this fails put stylus into reset button. Should have some more luck then.
[Touch GSM General] Fish_with_feet:
thanks sir!
[Touch GSM General] letouriste:
it does not work

mean not when you call

no sound again like version 0.42

:cool:
[Touch GSM General] ngavarta:
feedback :)

Installed both cabs, reboot into Linux with all htose lines, loaded Android ... work like a charm ...

Reporting after some rough testing:

- SMS can't get it working, due to keep on force close

- shown 156MB in phone memory (check from settings)

- photo album can't get it working (auto close, guess is a force close too)

- Can't get Internet working ... hook on DiGi Malaysia, APN="diginet" (used to work on my other Android phone)

- a lot smoother than previous release (the 1st ever working I found in this forum) I've tested

can someone share how to get data service to work? my plan is a 3G package (yeah if working it should downgrade to EDGE)
[Touch GSM General] javacom:
wait the new version will be better
[Touch GSM General] nirav_b:
Wi-fi on htc touch

Team,

any Idea why wi-fi is not working after installing wing-linux on HTC touch?Any suggeation??
[Touch GSM General] mady160:
Hey friendz m a new bie to this forum..

I install cabs on mY SD card, then i run wing linux but

It stops at

nount: mounting / dev/ on /mnt failed: Invalid argument

Unable to mount rootfs device

sh:can't access tty:job control turned

off

/#

I am using elfin and currently using wm 6

please help me install this cant stop the excitement.
[Touch GSM General] msmkhm:
HTC Android sound problem

hi,

I have a question,

What happen if we upgrade the ROM to WM6.1 and then install android?

or upgrading the radio version?

Is it solving the sound or Wi-Fi problems?

(I have HTC Touch ELF 0100 with 256 rom 128 ram.)
[Touch GSM General] msmkhm:
I test it

Thanks to the developers, I have run Android on my htc touch ELF0100 and it waz amazing.

but it is not applicable and I can not use it just for test.

It has some problem in addition to Sound and Wi-fi

1- the gprs(internet) dose not work even after setting the APN.

2- The battery status not worked and always is 100%

3- photo gallery doesn't work

I hope to be developed in the very soon future.
[Touch GSM General] vaibhav926:
Last post on Dec 2008! :(

And I got my HTC Elf repaired to install Android on it! :(

I hope one day, we will have a fully functional Android for Elf!!

Great work developers!! keep it up!!
[Touch GSM General] erpackyas:
Friend,

The keys are not functioning and the link to download zImage is not working, please reload it.

Half well crossed, yet to go...Anyhow Thanks.

Sorry to ask, but a post after two month, r u people still interested in the project, hope I am not lonely in desert, Please note there r so many people like me are roaming here. Buying a android phone is not a solution to a wandering technical mind. Hope u people will understand.
[Touch GSM General] gp.triple:
any update?? the project is dead?
[Touch GSM General] akoei:
Right, GPRS doesn't work, the APN even can't be saved!
[Touch GSM General] captainstu72:
Not seen much movement on this in the 9 months. Website has moved to http://wing-linux.sourceforge.net/ and still the same version. All links seem to be working.

I know you said buying an android phone is not an option to the technically minded. I think you are wrong. The elfs time has long passed. The devices chipset is not natively support, and even then the functionality and android experience would be shocking due to the spec of the device. In my semi technical mind. That seems to be clear is not going to happen, and even if it did, it would not be a daily driver.

For people still trying to run this I'd suggest you head to the site and ask there and jumping into their irx or posting in the forums. I don't think I post too much here. The OP was not a dev of this from what I remember, and the dev of the android distribution were doing in spare time and have commented that it was getting harder to try to get time to work on it.

You can get second hand android phones for fairly cheap nowadays, I'd recommend that.

Sorry to poss on your bonfire people. If you read the whole thread all of this would have been covered, granted it is a bit long to bother with!

Back to my whole. Bye.

The battery and GPS were known issues btw.
[Touch GSM General] Scorpey:
Еще актуально?
[Touch GSM General] carred66:
Hi: I have an Elf with win 6.1 with the problem that i forgot the password on the screen. I want to recover all the data inside, cause I didn't do any backup before.

It is possible to run the android from the sd card "automatically"? that means from the bootloader? I think after that I can take all the data of the calendar...

I have a cruise and start from the sd card, eventhough the soft is nand installed

I'm a bit desparted. thanks in advance
[Touch GSM General] Andy9860:
Hi i m trying to install android on my HTC dual touch

Hi i m trying to install android on my HTC dual touch

but problem is I dont know the site from which i need to download required software or file, so could u help me plz...

plz give me links to all files n software thanks in advance.
[Touch GSM General] andy905:
select boot image

After running Haret and watching the lines of code scroll past I get asked to select boot image. It gives me 2 options but as I dont have any key functions I cant select any option. Have I missed a step here.
[Touch GSM General] donfer83:
hello

I'm Italian and I have a problem during a call: I do not hear the voice

What to do?

help me!!!:(
[Touch GSM General] Cero92:
Sound doesn't work, it's "normal" for now
[Touch GSM General] b0gdi:
it would be awesome to have dual OS like the htc typhoon users have on their devices.

Keep up with the good work!! its looking very nice
[Touch GSM General] thebond:
great to see to android working on elf...

thanks to jeremy and all the others helping out to make it fully functional...

waiting to see it working fully....

any ways but does any one know how to get the on screen keyboard...???
[Touch GSM General] paulocar:
the keyboard should come up when you put control over a input field. try a double tap with the stylus if don't shows at first try.
[Touch GSM General] thebond:
hey thanks got it...!!!:):)
[Touch GSM General] jeremy89632:
I added some new stuff at the front page.

Version numbers will keep track this thread.

I have added some extra QNA questions.

Added on how to install apps on android.

More updates is on the way.

I will sometimes do minor updates without posting over here.

Just keep track with the version numbers and you wont be wrong.
[Touch GSM General] malintzin:
Amaizing! I wait this so long :-)

Yesss!!! I'm ready for the test!

Long time I look for possibility to have Android on my HTC Elf.

I have also Diamond and Diamond 2 but still like my elf and prefer it.

I thing that under Android Elf will be faster ... let we see...

Thanks to all that bring to us this solution!
[Touch GSM General] seferismo:
ha????? u prefer the elf over topaz? nah!
[Touch GSM General] dopio6:
Cool man, well done
[Touch GSM General] stivler333:
first of all nice job guys!

My Question: is there realy a chance, to get wifi sound and all the other things working?

it would be ****ing great, if your able to get this **** working!!!
[Touch GSM General] hovie:
Hey dude, look: until a few days ago, we all were desperate to get android running on elf someday, and now, it is there :D

So I assume someday we'll complete a full and stable version ;-)