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[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
My Location Explained....

I've seen a lot of postings on this subject AND I've already explained before, but I will do it one more time...

My Location:

My location is a service based on Google's location services (not to be confused with GoogleMaps, but uses a similar underlying core). These services TRY to determine your location through a number of techniques (basically GPS, Cell ID, and WiFi).

GPS is a very simple... if a current GPS fix exists, then those services can determine your location. In some cases, Google reverts to the last fix position (which may be some distance from your current position)

Cell IDs can sometimes allow Google to figure where you are... but this requires cooperation with the Carrier/Operator (the ONLY people who now for sure where a cell ID maps to a location). - this is really a form of triangulation... looking at multiple neighbouring cells etc to get a reasonable close fix on your location (the accuracy depends on cell size, and many other factors). In order to map a CellID to a location... the carrier (or some 3rd party intermediary) needs to offer an API to aow Google to retrieve the location results. Many carriers do NOT want Google to know this, and so offer no such API. Therefore, in some locations, and with some carriers.... Google can't get a fix using this technique.

WiFi is interesting but VERY immature. Based on your network SSID, and possibly other information (Locale settings etc), Google can access lists of known wifi hotspots to determine your location. This is VERY immature technology today, so unlikely to work well in most places.

The database of HotSpots and locations is collected from numerous 3rd parties and sold (or offered via an API to Google).

So... some folks with have success with My Location, many will not (a LOT of Carriers are not Google friendly for many reasons... but mostly because they would like to offer their own location based services).

Also, for many users.... they only seem to be able to get a My Location fix when using WiFi... this COULD be due to some network connection blocking in the Carrier's network - hard to determine at the moment.

Also please consider that these services are still 'new' and therefore the network backend at Google/Carrier/3rd Party might be up and down a LOT prior to product launch... thus causing intermittent results.

For me personally I've had it working with WiFi or GPRS / HSDPA connection... but only rarely via GPRS...

All in all, there are a lot of element that ALL need to work correctly before the service works... and the odd are not stacked in Google's favour at the moment.

I hope this helps some of you understand how the service works and the issues involved, and ultimately why it might not work for you!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jegloco:
any alternative download link for v60 besides rapidshare??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xet:
can we connect to wifi via static ip in this rom ? to the internet..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henv:
See post http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4546831&postcount=1409 there is a link to a cab that hiddens the schortcuts. There are still in startmenu but you dont see them
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henv:
Do a search in this threat on mirror. Think you will find one
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dumdidum:
Does MMS work on V62?!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
A few people have been asking for the slider icons. I believe this is the cab - I downloaded it a while back, but have not yet installed it, so it may be the wrong one ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] carola:
Maybe not that simple....

All this is a very good initiative and your input is very much appreciated by all concerned, among them myself. However, there are cases where the underlying issue lies somewhere else: your expose is wholly accurate by definition, I must agree.

In my case, I cannot have MyLocation within TF3D to function. Despite having accepted all the agreements and ensuring that it is properly configured. Furthermore and here's the irony, My Location from within Google Map functions effectively.

Therefore, the Mobile Operator co-operation is not the issue here, as with many people (I am based in London, UK). I cannot comprehend how Google can determine my position with high accuracy, yet Manila positioning, which is based on Google fails to do so! :confused:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cxkx:
Anyone has the icons zipped? want to use the in manila 2.1
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Spyrious:
I tried igo8 before i installed dusk and i have neos driver installed.Anyway.Is there anyway to make title bar and bottom start bar transparent or maybe gloss black?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Oemie:
Can someone please post these files for me:

Windows\LS_LockScene_480x800.cpr

Windows\htc_LS_LockScene_480x800.cpr

Windows\Lockscreen\LS_LockScene_480x800.cpr

Windows\Lockscreen\htc_LS_LockScene_480x800.cpr

Mine are corrupt and i don't want to install rom again.

I have v61 but i think v60 or v62 are oke..

thnx in advance
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
This is because Google Maps is loosely based in the same technology, but not entirely...

Operators are semi forced to accept google maps, but not Google LBS (location based services).

GoogleMaps only works on CellID's and GPS (if you explicitly enable it), in some cases they have an agreement with the operator to get location information from them, in other cases they are using a 3rd party intermediary who has an agreement with the operator to deduce the location). It's these 'agreements' that are the biggest cause of not being able to get your location.

There's a tonne of other reasons involved why it works for GoogleMaps and not for GoogleLBS... firstly, SOME of the agreements are for GoogleMaps use only and no other similar service, and secondly, in the HTC context, it's being coupled with weather... which complicates the matter too... and I'm not sure that GoogleLBS is talking to the same servers as GoogleMaps... I will have to investigate this.

Note with GoogleMaps... in large cities the accuracy will be good due to smaller cell sizes in the city. Out in country, Googlemaps is usually pretty good too, but can sometimes be as far out at 5 miles or so.

There is also another trick that Google are using.... it's collecting CellID's... so whenever a GPS enabled device connects to Google, the current Cell ID is also sent to Google... helping Google to maintain their own database of CellID to location mapping (BUT this is prone to the network operator changing IDs or moving them on occassion)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] carola:
Thank you for the additional information; I shall look further into this issue. It should not be difficult to isolate and resolve it, since it woks on other people's devices: this is not due to software fault or data channel...!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] stukka2006:
thanks my friend!

tested! works perfect!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Here you go m8. I'm on v62 and I don't have Windows\Lockscreen\htc_LS_LockScene_480x800.cpr
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Oemie:
Thank you very much ClydeB1, much appreciate it.

Hope this solves my problem of only having the 6.1 lockscreen instead of the one with the slider :confused:

Thanx again!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] leegil:
Guys,

Any comments on V61 or V62. Is it worth it to upgrade from V60?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] soom:
It seems that i have one common problem..

The task manager only minimizes the programs, and not actually close them.

I have setted it to "Close program when tapping "x"" but still...

We have to use another task manager in order to close the programs??

And also, once again, apart from the NeosDrivers 2007 Beta 2a, do we have to do install any other fixes??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] forelli:
Other people correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you have to long press the x button for the programs to be closed and not "backgrounded".
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
My pleasure. Hope it sorts your problem out and spares you a hard reset.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
There are 2 options under Settings\System\TaskManager\Others ie to close by tap or close by tap and hold.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alydor:
@Pandemoniumone - Thank you for your advice . It's was usefull

Some sugestion for the next version: on the first tab it's possibile to have 12 or more quick links? 9 it's not enough for me... :(

as liviumustata, i request the manilla notification file in Romanian if it's possible. Thank's in advance

I thing i have a problem at settings/personalize/home screen. At calendar doesn't appear the name (calendar) it's just the icon.... anyone else have the same problem?

All the best
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tazymazy:
I FLASHED V62

i can't see htc task manager icons how can i see htc task manager icon
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pandemoniumone:
Np problem bro, glad I could be of some help :)

As for the extra quick links on the home tab, that will have to be done on HTC's side, not the Roms chef. I've seen many tweaks becoming available for the new manila but have yet to see this accomplished.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pandemoniumone:
It's hidden behind the clock. Press on the clock (after aligning the screen) and you will activate the task manager.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] soom:
It is checked and still....

And also, once again, apart from the NeosDrivers 2007 Beta 2a, do we have to do install any other fixes??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tazymazy:
thanks a lot
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Yes, it seems that neither option actually closes the app.

No other "fixes" needed that I can recall, but I have done a few performance tweaks using HD Tweak.

Edit: Just recalled that there is a cab to "fix" the alarm/notifications clash and to add Opera as default browser in manila.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pandemoniumone:
I haven't installed any tweaks and my apps are closing from within the task manager drop down list just fine.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jove120:
Another request, is there any possibility that someone post the taskbar of this ROM in a cab file????

thank u very much!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Mine to, but I think the question was regarding closing apps directly (ie from the app itself) and not having to go to TaskManager.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pandemoniumone:
Ahhh, I see. I misunderstood the issue at hand :o
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fifo:
I am confused a bit.. please help me explain how is it:

in thread name there is:

BLACKSTONE WM6.5 ROM V61(Core 23047) & V62(23412) w/ LEO-MANILA

but in download link there is:

download link: HD_WM6.5__V61__B23412

download link: HD_WM6.5__V62__B23049

so which ROM is build on 23412 ? :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] grzegorz10:
v61 is correct
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fifo:
thank you for quick reply
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] geistteufel:
It's just my opinion, but I think, Leo based rom is really not made for HTC HD.

I meen, you miss about 500 mhz to make it work smoothly. so.

I have try the leo version, it's just perfectly slow and unusable.

Just the positive point, we see where microsoft and htc want to go for their next htc.

I hope just a new Android base, like Archos 5 Internet Tablet PC. It's just an amazing tools, and made a HTC HD v2 with 1Ghz and Android could be wonderfull !
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Derell:
V61

Downloadet and installed. Works great. I love the new touchflo.

Thx many lot great works :cool:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] WeeJockMacFeegle:
I've setup my MMS Settings as follows but still not working. Has anyone on o2 UK got MMS working on this ROM?

O2

Server Name: O2 MMS

Gateway: 193.113.200.195

Port: 9201

Server Address: http://mmsc.mms.o2.co.uk:8002

Connect Via: O2 WAP (or whatever your WAP connection is called)

Sending size limitation: 300k

WAP Version: 2.0
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Oemie:
I think you didn't flash and use PhamQuang v61 or had a bad flash, because it is super fast and perfect for daily use! (of course that is just my opinion :)).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] qpasatio:
weather animations / battery

Before I explain my question, I must say that I'm really happy with this ROM, it is very fast and the new manila is a big advance.

The main issue is that the battery comsumption is really high. I have thought that maybe the weather animations could have some influence here.

I think that it is really fancy but after see them a couple of times, it brings me anything. Is there a way to stop them? I think that the home screen would be more clear and maybe the battery would last longer.

I don't know if it can be done with the "weather wallpaper" and "still wallpaper" placed in tf3d settings because after too much fiddeling with it I didn't undestand the meaning of the weather wallpaper

Regards
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] XzaniX:
Did you try Port: 8080

It's the usual one for WAP Version 2.0... 9201 was for WAP Version 1.0
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] soom:
Can someone post here the manilla icons that this rom has!?

Or where i can find theme?:(

There are too many thread with the same subject making almoste impossible to find what i am looking for...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] grzegorz10:
Just use the still Wallpaper and you will have no weather animation
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henv:
Maybe you can delete this files and reset telephone (first make a backup). Probably windows will restore them. This was possible with the manilla weather file. If it was corrupt, delete it and soft reset, And the original one was back
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dindindores:
RSS Feed icon?

RSS feed icon is missing, is there any way to get the RSS cab???

Otherwise great ROM, best untill now with WIN 6.5! Except the bug with the location and time zone.

cheers

thomas
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] yutaka.rsa:
[solved] at least for now

I re-flashed v60 and it was working fine, after a day of use i intalled sprite terminator and on the next day I noticed that the problem was back. now i just removed the software and the wifi connected to my home network without a problem. i'll test for a couple days and see if it was definitly what was causing the wifi issue. cheers
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BRSG:
Ok, so I've found the answer to my previous question about those program icons, but can you make some more please? They are really great and I love the contrast Black theme Grey icons...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] itsme_4ucz:
I lost my memory card cant read it anymore...:confused: will go buy another one...did anyone else face this issue?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] avicoh12:
hi i see many users change the "pp" to 24 mb ...

how to learn about this issue , is there any dummy guide ?

how to change the PP ?

tnx ahead
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pandemoniumone:
Have you tried re-formatting it first? This hasn't happened to me yet but I've read of others confronted by this issue on other Roms.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pandemoniumone:
I posted this quite a few pages back, you'll find the CAB for the Page pool tool attached in that post as well.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] avicoh12:
thanks,

didn't see it ....
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] zhuozhi211:
Feedback on v62

Some feedback from myself on v60 and v62:

Overall the new Manila and latest WM6.5 built were great! :)

Below are some "issues" I experienced:

1) Messaging

- as many people have reported, loading messages is v slow. It even become unusable if you imported previous messages using PIM Backup

* one solution is to disable the Manila messaging. it does help, but the sms shortcut on Manila contact tab wont work - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=556614

- Messages window for contact with symbols e.g. "*^&*$#" may have some small issue

- No SMS sent notification as before (NOT Delivery report)

2) Alarm issue and Opera not default

* fix - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=4533691&highlight=opera#post4533691

3) ActiveSync keep popping up when you trigger between GSM/3G (NOT schedule sync)

4) Manila Album and Music tab do not go full screen in landscape mode. The animation is also somewhat slow?

5) Someone reported some background debug logs? Not that it bothers...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=4551551&highlight=logging#post4551551
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gohyc:
I have posted a request earlier for the thread moderator to correct the thread title as it will confuse a lot of people, especially when 2 ROM versions are released at the same time, but looks like a deaf ear has been turned on this request. :(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] moisesz:
thanks for such a great job!. i've tested the latest roms and found the 23412 has serious performance issues. i don't think the OS is not ready for prime time still. hope the next version will improve the perfomance. does anyone have the same performance issues?. :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] avicoh12:
i have small problam

my screen fades after a while but when i touch / slide or any action

the screen keep fade

i installed the autolockscreen.cab

but the problem stays

any solution ?

EDIT - sometimes it's ok and the fade disappears (turn ok after SR) and sometimes it's stuck ...really annoying
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] reidar.ostrem:
Does not work with any of the settings .. :(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] StaNdArD:
I use V62, Everything is very good. but

1) Tab Music cannot play, no sound

2) MMS cannot send, I've already set MMS server but cannot use.

I also try install disable message but cannot too.

3) Data Connection did not disconnect, I set to automatic discon after not use 1 minute. but It still connect when I open the phone.

Thank you very much.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] StaNdArD:
More question :

Cannot change soft key in TF3D (Defalt is Phone and Contacts)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] itsme_4ucz:
I cant even right click on the memory drive, i tired several utilities for formatting memory card they just dont seem to find it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] zorba:
V62 Medium Issues

Overall great rom that I enjoy using. Here are a few issues I have found.

1. I am not sure if it is a onetime thing but last night when I did a soft reset, the unit would not reboot. After a long wait it gave me an error saying the system could not start. I tried resetting a couple of times with the same error. I was able to do a hard reset and get everything working again.

2. There seems to be a severe memory leak. I start with about 45% of memory free. By the end of the day I am down to 10% with nothing open. A softreset returns it to 45% free.

3. As pointed out by others there is an issue with the music tab. When I first go to that tab (after a flash or hard reset), it says that the playlist is not present. Within a few seconds it will crash TF3d and restart TF3d. The only workaround that I have found is to quickly hit the library button the first time I open the music tab and then select a song from the list (say of all songs). I am good to go until the next flash.

Z
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Seven1972:
Birthday BUG

Hi there, i'm from germany and i have found a bug in contactsapp. The birthdays will shown the false date. all dates are one day behind. for example my birthday is 11.02.1972 but in contacts v60 show 10.02.1972??? Did anybody know this Bug and did anybody have an idea to fix this??? Maybe v61/62 didN't have this bug... Maybe this is a result of location bug? i cant change my location, all options are disabled...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] shruff:
I posted them here, I assume you mean the Home Programs/Contact icons?

In order to change the icons and have them shown in Manila Home Programs you must rename the shortcuts in /Windows/Start Menu/Programs, you can do it before of after applying the new icons with reSTART
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] K_Hismoom:
Are you sure, you have set the correct timezone _before_ restoring your appointments?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alydor:
So how can i change this? i need ~ 20 shortcuts for quick links...

Thank's in advance

All the best
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Oemie:
THnx henv i am going to try that, cause the replacement files didn't work.

It is not a big issue to not have the lockscreen with the slider, but now when someone calls me and my phone is in my pocket, it will pick up the call right away so..i am going to try, or do a HR.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Oemie:
So is everybody ready for V63:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] RRibeiro:
I was just starting to type that. :)

You beat me in speed. ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Seven1972:
Yes, because i sync over activesync and don't use restore of data... but i will flash v62 and then i will see if this occurs again...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] neils31:
in that screen shot there is a shortcut bar at the top, I have seen this intermittently already in previous versions, how do you activate it?

roll on V63 :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] K_Hismoom:
EDIT: Ignore this post
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] leegil:
V63?

I have only just decided to use V62 (Build 23049) after trying to get a feel of that is the best version. After a few comments that 23412 was a little unstable

How far away is V63 anyone. I may as well wait..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fantasies:
You press minutes in the top bar then the normal taskmanger is activated, then press hour and the big taskbar is activated
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] geistteufel:
I flash it, use it, of course I do a hard reset just before installation of rom and after flash

so, I know what I'm saying, it's slow, especially the picture and music rotation

and I miss lot of clic and move on icon, because of speed ...

did you try picture rotation, music rotation ?

if you only have 3 musics on your phone, perhaps it's smooth, I have 4G and it's not smooth at all !
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Highd:
Does anyone have these options worked?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] WeeJockMacFeegle:
Port 8080 didn't work either, and o2 UK claim they can't help since they don't personally sell HTC devices. So I'm still without MMS. Perhaps a new version will sort it out.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Oemie:
That is really strange. I have had v59, v60 and v62 and they where all oké. Some people wrote how fast they where and how smooth, while mine was oké. Features where more importent to me otherwise i would have gone back to a 6.1 rom from energy:D. Now i have flashed V61 and my rom is so fast!!! Everything is smooth and fast and i am on 4g to. Even my picture and music rotate fast:confused:. I really don't know what happened but it is a stable, fast rom.

Only thing i have done is install neodrivers 2a..

So conclusion can be I had a bad flash and it worked out very good:confused::D