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[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZenorGR:
As I said on previous posts of this topic, I also had the issue but I accidently fixed after trying different things which I posted.

Today I reproduced the issue so I can try to fix it out. I had no luck fixing it so I restored from a nandroid backup so the issue was gone, again.

The album application before, and after this process was the same(meaning I didn't flash any different ROM). I really can't explain what is going on with this issue.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] salmanbodla:
One way to test would be to try the stock Albums app from basic Android OS e.g. from Dream or Magic. I don't have access to them and am not a devvy kinda person. Is anyone willing to push them via ADB and try?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stripealipe:
of course, it's only an app after all.

I have another 8GB class 2 that doesn't work either, so i'll use that instead of messing with my faster 8GB that's in my phone at the 'mo.

Zenor: It's def interesting that your Nandroid backup gets it working again. Some strange combination has maybe stopped it in the first place and get's it going again too.

And it gets saved in that state too!
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZenorGR:
Yeah, that's why I posted. I also found that interesting. It may have to do with the pictures themselves, I don't know. If you like I can upload my DCIM folder so you guys can see if it works for you.

Let me know.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shirato:
Hi ZenorGR,

Regarding your issue and fixed, I'm still suspect that it is because the albums apps create some files in the phone storage so when you restore from nandroid, that file were gone..

It can explains the reason why HTC support cannot reproduce this issues because they don't have this problem files in their phone.

About the pictures problem themselves, I don't think it will be problem, I have tried put the same images and thumbnails cache files that were working before with 2GB card to my larger 16GB card...

The result is: the albums can load the existing thumbnails, but it cannot create anymore thumbnails when I added more images. And if I deleted the working thumbnails, it cannot regenerate those as well.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lopiuh:
I am the guy with the clustersize theory. I have to mention that thumbnail creation stopped working again for me so I am too convinced now that it has nothing to do with clustersize in the first place. Sad story. What's about file system corruption? But after then it is nonsense that only one prog has problems after all. Why the hell doesn't HTC ask us to get a system dump from one of us so that they can further investigate. I think there are a couple of users not even knowing that their thumbnails are not working and who think that's the normal speed of the program, as I did before getting it to work for a few days.

Cheers
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shirato:
can anyone extract the HTC Albums app version in other htc phone that does not have this problem as apk file?

Maybe it would better if we can test at application level, not hardware level.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eddingo:
I have the same problem and tried different things so solve it. This is my solution:

1. Delete the DCIM folder on SD Card (don't forget to backup your files).

2. Take a picture (now the hero creates a new DCIM folder on your SD Card).

3. Open the album application ("camera shots" or "all pictures", both works for me) --> a thumbail of your new photo will be created

4. "Kill" the album application with TasKiller

5. Activate USB mass storage and copy your backed up photos into the new DCIM folder

6. Deactivate USB and open the album --> now thumbnails for all your pictures will be created and saved!

Hope this also works for you.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sixpackbud:
After all this testings from many users including me I would be very much supprised if this is the solution. Let's see. I belive I have tried this multiple times earlier with no sucess. You are probably one of those who get it working for a while and will soon find out that it does'nt work anymore. Keep us updated.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shirato:
I have done exactly the same steps, mine is not the same since step 3, after took a picture, the thumbnails of new photo does not generate..

After finish step 6, my .thumbnails folder is still empty..

Thank you for your suggestion, but it doesn't work on mine. thanks.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shirato:
Could anyone look in the HTC Albums program version?

Settings -> Applications -> Manage applications -> Albums -> About

my version is: 2.00.0087.62020

Is everyone has the same version? or the people who don't have this problem has another version?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZenorGR:
Version 2.00.0087
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shirato:
I found that HTC Tattoo (Android v1.6) has the HTC Albums version 2.00.0087.74492, which is newer then Hero, anybody who has friends bought HTC Tattoo, can you please try extract the apk of HTC Albums? I'm thinking that maybe it can be fixed in Hero with the new HTC Albums.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FormelLMS:
I have a new Mail from HTC Germany.

This bug is known!

They say, that we please do not use SD Cards bigger than 4GB!

They try to fix this problem!
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shirato:
Wow !! Thanks, finally, they know this bug and trying to fix :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] markspark100:
just thought id say, i used to have the problem of no thumbnails being created but don't any more. I don't really know what solved the problem but it seemed to start working when I looked at a photo which was on my sd card through my computer ie. when it was connected via usb and i'd opened the DCIM folder.

Like I said, don't know if this was just a coincidence but thought i'd share and see if it helped anyone else out.

Mark
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FormelLMS:
HTC recommends to use no larger SD Cards than 4gb.

They don't know which problems they have. It could be more than only "thumbnails not creating"

Thats the answer from HTC Germany.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ajones7279:
Smh well that sucks.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shirato:
So the status of this problem is it's bug and we can only waiting for HTC to fix?

are there any other workaround to solve this problem? I have 300+ pictures in Albums and it's extremely slow.

How about extract Albums apk from tattoo?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FormelLMS:
Hmmm, there are no News to that Bug.

Awful. I hoped that HTC is faster with that.

But, changes to MoDaCo or any other Custom ROMs doesn't change anything.

I want to use my 16GB Card now. But I still think, that there are more Problems. Not only the Picture App of Hero.

So I wait and wait and wait and try to live with my 4GB.....

Are there any People where more than 4GB are okay?

NoProblems with Picture App?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nelly1977:
Problem solved, for me anyway

Hi guys, just wanted to share this with you.

I think I may have found a solution to this problem. I had same concern, put in my new 16gb sandisk class 2 card and was so slow, gutted.

Read this thread and had a a brainwave so here goes, it worked for me.

Go to DCIM on your as card and delete the already created thumbs, don't know if you need to do this but I did. If not sure how to do this its explained in earlier posts in this thread.

K, now I had the idea of going into the manage applications part of settings menu.

Scroll to album and click on it, you then get the option to clear cache and clear all data, if I remember correctly.

Clear all the data for album, I think this also clears cache, but if it doesn't clear cache also.

Now exit and open the album app as normal, open up all your albums to created the thumbnails again and voila, super speedy album again.

Wow, hope this works for everyone else like it did for me cos I know its frustrating, please let me know how you get on guys, cheers
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FormelLMS:
No, doesn't work on my Hero. :damned:

Oh, I hope, that HTC can solve this Problem.

Nobody knows which Problems are with this big cards.

It can give so much problems und probably we know only this one at the Album App....

Is a Hero with another SD Card probably faster.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ajones7279:
Didn't work for me either.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kcliu02:
I bought my Hero in Hong Kong.

I don't have thumbnail problem. (16GB class 2 Sandisk)

But when I open a photo and zoom, very often it cannot show 16K colors and become 'pixelized'.

It look like a 256 color 320x240 photo.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shirato:
Hi kcliu02,

Then I think your phone use only thumbnails and not load the actual image. What happen when you wait for a few seconds? it should load the actual image.

Anyway, since you don't have problem, could you please extract the apk file of your HTC albums app and upload here? I want to test if it is working?

Thank you.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ajones7279:
Dunno why, but mine is creating thumbnails again all of a sudden.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kcliu02:
Sorry for late reply.

It work fine again after I close (use back bottom) the album app.

I have attached the apk. But i am not sure it work for yours or not.

My rom is 2.73.

16GB class 2 Sandisk

No 'thumbnail not generated' problem
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FormelLMS:
Could you explain, how to install that apk file?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] morenonew:
SD partition size

the problem is linked to the SD partition size. If > 2GB dont work. I have a 8GB SD CARD. If I format my SD to full SIZE (8GB) thumbnail dont generate, if I create a partition of about 2GB size thumbnail are created. So we should wait for a HTC solution.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shirato:
Thank you for your apk file.

I tested in my Hero and it is still not generate thumbnails on my 16GB class 2 Sandisk (same as yours).

So maybe it's not at the App problem.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FormelLMS:
Great news:

I've installed the new MoDaCo ROM on my Hero. MCR 3.0 and it works now fine!!!

This new ROM has a new kernel and with that it works. My App creates many many thumbnails.

I can't believe, but it's true!!!
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hanserson1:
I am using the same ROM (MoDaCo 3.0) and it didn't solve the problem. Unfortunately I cannot confirm this.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FormelLMS:
Hm.... crazy. I did it now 5 times and it works...

But I must say, since then:

- rosie is removed with rosie remover

- gde Home replacement is installed

But that couldn't be.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ajones7279:
Man. It's random. Mine works fine now when it wasn't earlier.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chewizzle:
OK, yesterday I read this entire thread finding out I got the exact same problem as most of you, and as probably many HTC Hero owners; I didn't realized it before now. I'm saddened to see that there haven't been any common solution to this problem yet, and are sorry to say that I don't have it either. What I do have is a little bit of information which might be of interest, I don't know really.

Short version after the ########## further down

Since so many of you have been focusing on the cards and trying out a lot of different things with them, I didn't even go there cause frankly; you seem to covered every angle of it (which I'm grateful of cause then I could try something else). The same goes with people trying different versions of the album app etc.

To me it really goes down to the album app itself. I noticed something while just testing the first thing that entered my mind; How is it for another image viewing application? -Jackpot (a small one though, maybe like a 5 buck one, but still).

I actually had loads of thumbnails in my folder and a thumbnail.db outside it when i checked (all inside DCIM folder), but they didn't load at all in the album app. It looked like it created thumbnails in the memory or something, cause it had like a "only ~30 thumbnails at a time" limit or something. Scrolling down led the first images go gray, as scrolling up led to the opposite.

-I found that wierd.

Deleting everything related to the thumbnails I opened the album app to find out it did not create any thumbnails, only the .thumbnail folder.

-So how did the thumbnails get there in the first place?

I opened the app "photoshop mobile" and noticed it was slow, apparently creating thumbnails as the album app. So I closed it after it had finished and reopened it - now they all loaded really fast. So fast I could barely see it. I quickly checked the DCIM folder and yes, thumbnails had all been created for every picture again. Then I tried "photosafe" application and it also (though in another location i think) created thumbnails and viewed them fast on the reopening. I continued to try applications, and with everyone I tried thumbnails worked, listing; photo viewer, photosafe, photoshop mobile, picture viewer and astro.

######################

I have no solution, but after trying different image viewing apps I think it's not a problem with neither the cards or the OS, but the album app itself, or the app in combination with something else (other apps, system ROM or something..)

Every other app I tried successfully created thumbnails and viewed them as fast as the "road runner" sprints. Of course the album app works correctly with less than 2GiB cards or partitions, but for me it does not with larger ones.

Finally, I have the transcend 16GiB class 6 card currently equipped and have had so since I bought the phone (but tried the card that came with the phone after reading this thread).

PS: Sorry if my English is somewhat strange, it's not my first language.

EDIT:

I have not rooted my phone or done anything to it. It has the newest released ROM from HTC.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FormelLMS:
Now I have about 6GB free on my 16GB card and it works.

TRry it, if you want. Make your SD Card nearly full and try if it solves the problem.

My Hero does it with MCR 3.0
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shirato:
Thank you !!, it's work !!.

I'm using stock HTC Hero, not root.

I have 16GB card, I have files about 4-5GB and 12GB free, now I add junk files to make the SDcard almost full, only 100MB left. Now the thumbnails can be created correctly on any images.

Can anyone who have problem like me try the same thing? I want to know if this really a solution for this problem?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shirato:
So I think we can conclude the root cause of this problem is the albums app cannot generate thumbnails on the SDCard that has available space more than 2GB.

The solution is to store any files in SDcard to make it has less available space.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ajones7279:
Not quite. I still have over 5.5 gigs free on my 8 gig sd and mine is creating thumbnails now.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FormelLMS:
Yes, I think, it's about 6GB. I've tested now many times.

More than 6GB= Problem

Less than 6 GB= all okay
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hotvico:
Solved (welll...WorkED around!)

I've been waiting and pretending not to see, waiting for a solution to come out... Well, I have found it! It's a workaround but stilll... I "downgraded" my 3+ Gigs of free space to a puny 800 megs and then....Thumbnails started being created!!!! I'm with MCR 2.9, for what matters.... I shall take the time to quote an app I use loads for pictures: JustPictures - works like charm with Picasa accounts. And dev is a nice person, it's the most updated app of my Android history ;-) For all those experiencing the problem: use this fix, the result is just as stunning as you could wish - I am back to having a SNAPPY Album!!!!!!!! p.s. I noticed it creates different thumbs for the 2 views. In my case it meant creating over 4000 thumbs and it took a while, but WORTH INDEED IT WAS!!!

Reading back, it looks like I have found the solution myself... Previous posts have, I am just confirming! :-)
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chewizzle:
I had to fill up my 16GB card to less than 2GB free before it worked.

So for me its:

More than 2GB = Problem

Less than 2GB = Okay
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cowlren:
quick fix that worked for me

simply unmount using Settings:SD card and phone settings:Unmount

then reseat the card without powering off.

immediately video and image thumbnails displayed by Album app on X10 mini 2.1
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jozin:
Hey folks, IT FINALLY WORKS FOR ME!

Symptoms: after entering the Media Gallery a random picture was shown first when sliding to the next one with my finger from side to side in fullscreen mode. Only after that the actual one was loaded, resulting in a very annoying jerky animation. I also started getting "Error 0x80070057: The parameter is incorrect" in windows explorer when copying large files to the phone.

Didn't help: tried all that card removing/cleaning, filling it up till almost full, leaving just a few photos on it, etc.

SOLUTION:

backed up card content (used robocopy to preserve time stamps, but this should not be required)

launched a full filesystem ***FORMAT*** of SD card in windows explorer

restored data

removed the "\DCIM\.thumbnails" and "\Android\data\image.viewer" folders (again)

entered the Camera album and didn't interrupt till it loaded all the thumbnails just to make sure

I had an SD read/write error first, the next phone reboot fixed it.

Maybe you don't have to do anything beyond formatting the card.

Device: Motorola Milestone UMTS, Android 2.1-update1; Sandisk 8GB SDHC shipped with it
[G1 General] dhaneesh:
my G1

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=225927&stc=1&d=1252517864

coming to this screen what is the problem please help me
[G1 General] Fingerlickin:
finger the green guy
[G1 General] supremeteam256:
LOL...... **** you had me laughin out loud in a quiet office.
[G1 General] Diceman4:
HAHA! I also laughed out loud in a quiet office. No offense to the OP (I guess their is no non offensive way to say this) but that is the worst question I have ever seen on this or any other android board. It is almost akin to asking where the "any" key is...
[G1 General] Fingerlickin:
Wait there are "other" android forums? :eek:

hehe I couldn't help it, that reminded me of my friend who sent her phone back to tmo because it had a big crack down both sides.
[G1 General] crpercodani:
That's a brick, no doubt about it. What did you do man?!?11?!
[G1 General] The Reverend Gridlock:
where is the any key, do where have one:p

that was classic though, finger the green guy, still laughing

fingerlicken, your friend with the huge crack too
[G1 General] AdrianK:
Stroking also works, if you're feeling a little frisky ;-)
[G1 General] The Reverend Gridlock:
your g1 would also like you to cuddle with it afterwards

(just words of wisdom)
[G1 General] AdrianK:
I lol'd...
[G1 General] The Reverend Gridlock:
what? mine likes to cuddle, if i don't than it starts acting funny and brings me booty loops.

it also likes to be stuck with a butt plug constanly
[G1 General] supremeteam256:
Another classic thread.
[G1 General] crpercodani:
You need to light candles and spread rose peddals around your room first then massage it slowly, get some vaseline and finger the green guy till it screams "Your the Hero i always Dreamed of, mmmmmm!! Work your Magic baby, hit my G(1) spot oh oh oh I'm gonna rooooooot yaaaaaaeeeehhhhh"
[G1 General] supremeteam256:
Is that the first date cause mine now just *****es all day and don't do nothing.
[G1 General] crpercodani:
You need to show her your pimp hand is still strong. Let her see you using another smartphone and bet that ho be actin right soon enough.
[G1 General] Fingerlickin:
maybe you should wipe better.
[G1 General] Fingerlickin:
are you trying to merge this thread with the "wet g1?" thread?
[G1 General] supremeteam256:
True that. I just told her I would brick her in a heart beat and get a new one, so hopefully she gonna straighten up now.
[G1 General] supremeteam256:
Thanks for the heads up I'm over there now.
[G1 General] crpercodani:
haha the wet g1 thread is to easy it takes the creativity out of what I do.
[G1 General] :
Hey, the wet g1 is a serious ?, guys need to stop just fingering your g1's, you gotta make it feel good, than donkey punch it, when it's not paying attention
[G1 General] Fingerlickin:
I would imagine that crpercodani would need help from the wet g1? thread after this.
[G1 General] :
Won't somebody please think of the children?!? *sobs*
[G1 General] supremeteam256:
Think of the children or make some children. I'm confused here.
[G1 General] :
You let your children play on your g1, what's wrong with you, you sick nasty {@%$, that is g1 abuse I don't have to take it. Wait I let my son, ss****.

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury please forget what you have just heard
[G1 General] :
I'm 16 ffs :P
[G1 General] :
We should start making these thread rated r, don't worry adrian, we will sneak you in
[G1 General] supremeteam256:
lol, is Adrian skipping school.
[G1 General] :
LOL! thanks ;-)

It's 5 PM in the UK :P
[G1 General] supremeteam256:
LOL, I forgot you across the pond. I wish it would hurry up and be 2:30 here so I can dip.
[G1 General] :
It's noon here on the eastern seaboard of the US, wow I am am awake, this is amazing. Quick someone call ripley's, they are not gonna believe this
[G1 General] supremeteam256:
It's a lil after 11 here down in the dirty. And my back is killing me, I forgot my drugs so I'm not so uppty right now. Just waitin to get home to escape.
[G1 General] :
Where you at supreme, alanta. 11, damn you got a ways to 230, I will be fishing with dynamite by then
[G1 General] crpercodani:
drugs, phone sex, pedophilia......damn this thread is so wrong.
[G1 General] supremeteam256:
Huntsville, AL. Chea 2:30 is looking far away. I'm bout to start asking some people for some pain pills cause my **** really is bothering me (The fiend ain't comin out yet) and if I don't get none I might end up home early. Just chunk em the deuce and say see ya tomorrow.
[G1 General] supremeteam256:
lol, welcome back. We were missing the 3rd wiseman
[G1 General] :
I can just image that on the homepage:

"Welcome to XDA Developers, the home of drugs, phone sex and pedophilia!"
[G1 General] crpercodani:
I had to goto probation, only like 4 more months of it and im done though. Already got around 24 grams sitting in a sealed glass jar gettin extra stinky. Now I gotta goto work in a few mins so don't you guys have all the fun without me.
[G1 General] supremeteam256:
Thats what I'm talking bout. I didn't want to be the first person to say anything but chea. I got a lil bit of the mason jar **** left, she so pretty, she almost white. Thats what I'm really waiting to get home to.
[G1 General] :
Hey codani, any thread with supreme, you and me in is gonna go bad and now we are corrupting minors, I see adrian has come and joined the dark side already. Oh and it gets bad when fingerlicken joins in too
[G1 General] Fingerlickin:
There's an app for that.......

http://www.cyrket.com/package/com.tracedeweb.core
[G1 General] crpercodani:
I just got a pm from Mikey, he said me and some "others" are on thin ice and could become IP banned.
[G1 General] :
Maybe we should chill it down alittle bit, maybe take a few days off, go on vaction or something, I am not trying to get banned
[G1 General] crpercodani:
Yea, same here.
[G1 General] :
Let's get this thread back on topic, it had something to do with fingering the green guy on the opening screen
[G1 General] :
Sweet app, fingerlicken, beat that icrap