yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pandemoniumone:
No, I don't think it is related to the radio as I've been running 1.17 since it's release and have never seen what you've described with Google Maps or SportyPal...don't use G-watch so can't comment. I do use the latest versions of both programs mentioned; Google maps v3.2.1 and SportyPal v1.9.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] richard_j_green:
You lucky bugger!

How much do you use your phone - GPS, WiFi, 3G and Voice etc?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] la3bna:
How do I get my HD to alow me to flash radio. I got stock radio (1.13.25.24) tried to do SD card flashing but get some error (not fast enough to read it)

Edit: might help to use USPL
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] la3bna:
I have to ssy that it works better than my stock radio. At least with FM reception ( listen to radio all day long @ work ;) )
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] richard_j_green:
I upgraded this morning and then flashed to Miri V31.

Running MyPhone sync and using the HSDPA heavily and the heat up is very much improved over 1.13. No comment on battery life yet.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] la3bna:
Where do i get RILphone and is it necessary?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
No Rilphone available for radio 1.17. Latest RIL is 1.14 which you can get here
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] la3bna:
Thanks for the info
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] odm3xda:
ril

hi guys i have just flashed my radioi from 1.10.25.25 to 1.17.25.09 that was 5 minutes ago and still not sure if there is any problem will post update later but does anyone know i should do something here ?? shoeld i get rilphone or something ?

i just tested location it works not yet sure about gps signal will have to go outdoors for that

tested messaging and i did send successfully, tested a phone call and got loud and clear voice and to let you know when i flashed my phone bettery indicator said 58% and after flashing it says 78% so i guess this radio is not a battery drainer like old one
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kaosnews:
Yes, I really would like to know that to.. Is flashing to 1.17.25.09 enough.. or should I use rilphone.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] odm3xda:
if it doesnt work good enough as expected without rilphone I think i am gonna flashback to 1.10 I WILL NEVER GO THROUGH RILPHONE STAFF
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
I'm assuming you have read this.

The word is still out to a certain extent, but matching radio to RIL can improve signal strength slightly but I don't know if there is any actual all-encompassing proof that matching the rilphone with the radio increases performance. I have a "mis-matched" rilphone/radio combo and, for me, it works better than some matched combos. Personally from using 1.17 & 1.16 radio's I've found a slight improvement using RIL 1.14.

Using older/wrong versions of RIL/Radio combo can in extreme cases make Radio unusable.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] v6mikey:
Why oh why do I keep messing with my phone! I was finally happy with it, until I thought it might be a good idea to update the radio. WRONG!

Used the 1.17.25.09 update and I have now lost my gsm signal. The signal comes and goes. No 3g at all. Everything else works fine. But I cannot use my phone as a phone anymore!!

Any help would be much appreciated.

I updated radio through uspl. Gone back to 1.14.25.24 and its still the same!

Please, please help me.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Not sure if its 100% related, but read this
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Queequeg:
Have you checked the connection settings?

You might try running connection wizard again (Start -> settings -> connections -> connection setup, soft reset required). Maybe trying to roam using a different provider and selecting it in the wizard, then running the wizard again to set everything back to your provider’s settings? Would that get you back on 3G?

You could also go to Connections (next to the connection setup) and then to “Manage my existing connections” to check manually if everything is set up correctly (trying finding the manual settings for your provider searching the web).

If it all fails, there is a hard reset.

Then, there is a stock ROM for UK (and separate on for Orange, check the threads because I know nothinga about UK providers and ROMs). It is on the wiki pages, here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Ship_exe

Unlike most of the cooked ROMS, HTC original ROM's also contain the stock radio. They also wipe the memory area of your phone thoroughly. It is a last resort as you have already said you have customized your phone to be as you like it and after reflashing to stock you’ll have to flash your cooked ROM again and so on :(

edit:

What rilphone do you have? Some radio/rilphone combo's are known not to work properly...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] v6mikey:
Fingers crossed, I think I have sorted it. Had to reflash my rom and tried a few different radios, then it just started working. :)

It was like the radio needed time to settle in to the phone. :confused: But all is well, hopefully!

I will post an update in a few days!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Queequeg:
Phew...

I'm glad you've sorted it out!

:):):)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] v6mikey:
Well I thought I had sorted it. At least the signal has stabilised. Its not going off and on any more.

I can send and receive texts, making a call is bit hit and miss, sometimes it connects sometimes it just stops trying to call. :mad: I have tried to call the mobile from my landline and although it shows it has a signal, the call went to voicemail.

I have been at this for 6 hours now. :(

Any ideas?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] v6mikey:
Bit of an update, everything works apart from making calls. :confused: :confused:

Might have to try the orange rom update that includes the radio.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] v6mikey:
Another update is that with time the radio seems to have settled down and is behaving itself. All seems to be OK for now. :confused::confused:

I can now make calls again. I have downloaded the official orange rom and radio just in case!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] doudaix:
is this radio rom drain more battery than the older version ?

Anyone experience that ?

Thx
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] odm3xda:
sorry !!! i did go through rilphone thing and ruined everything cause no radio worked and i had to HR and did not help restored stock ROM and stock SPL and and flashed again HSPL and my fav energyROM and flashed several radios several times charged to 100 and now it works 1.17 with stock rilphone i guess cause eneryrom never changed stock radio version so i guess it never changed stock rilph
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mayong:
radio in malaysia ?

what radio i want use in malaysia ? my network celcom

i use rom xtrom gridevo:o\\

sory bad english
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] samaliset:
Freezing after ROM flashing

Hello

I am sorry but I could not find solution to my problem in spite of reading all those posts. So I'll highly appreciate your help.

My Blackstone had the original HTC ROM bought in France. I wanted yesterday to move to WM 6.5 using the recommendations but I got several issues with following ROM settings.

Blac100 32M

SPL-1.14.OliNex

MicroP-BlckStone (LED) v6

ROM Pyrana V17 F

WM 6.5

Issues:

- Fuzzy colours when starting_up (but not a major issue since it disappears after off/on)

- After some clicks, the machine freezes

- No telephone available

Thanks for your helps
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] CaponiND:
Before flashing you need to carefully read THIS thread and do exactly what is said there
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Your problem is your SPL which states SPL 1.14.Olinex, i.e. HSPL 1.14. You need to use HSPL 1.56 for roms based on 1.56+. This should fix your colour issues and get phone working again. Just flash latest HSPL 1.56 and you'll be sorted
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dimos_s:
i have a problem with my active sync after the radio install 1.17.25.09 anyone knows something please tell me :confused:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] samaliset:
Ok and thanks, I have solved the prob. by installing the right SPL in fact.

Now I have another issue that G-Sens doesn't work at all. Any idea how to correct that?

Rgds
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MasDroid:
First off. Have you tried a Soft Reset and Hard reset on your phone? Try rebooting your PC also. This may help.

Second, in the Start>settings>connections tab go to the USB to PC and turn off the advanced network. This might help with the resyncing and also try reinstalling active sync with the latest version 4.5

Try performing a Hard Reset as a last resort as this will wipe your phone settings and restore is back to the default version of your current ROM, so make sure to back everything up before you do so.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tzkapyx:
ask for help

anyone can tell me how to install this New Radio. I have download it and found it's exe file,not BLACIMG.NBH. It can't be installed finally.

Yours help will be appreciated deeply.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MasDroid:
Hi tzkapyx,

Could you first of all please let me know whether or not you have changed your spl version (to Hard-SPL or USPL) of your phone - I am uncertain as to whether you have done so already as you do not currently have a signature, or provided any further information. If you have not carried out this step, then you cannot unlock your phone to install custom ROMs and Radio versions - if you have not already done so, then please read this Tutorial/Dummies Guide, it explains the whole process step for step. Follow these steps and you can't go wrong.

However, if you have unlocked your phone via the Hard-SPL 1.56 Olinex or USPL 1.54.0000 method, then you can upgrade your radio version to the version you suggested - 1.17.25.09. I understand that you have downloaded this file already but please download the same radio version from this link instead:

Radio version 1.17.25.09

To flash your radio version to 1.17.25.09, read the following Wiki (scroll down to the 'Flashing Radio' section on this page), it has detailed information that advises you how to install the files you just downloaded.

Also, Its best to have

matching RIL & radio

versions - in radio 1.17.25.09's case the latest RIL is 1.14.25.24, so best to use nearest. You can download the RIL cab file (BS_Rilphone_1_14_25_24.cab) via this link (refer to the downloads section on the bottom of post #1).

To install the RIL file (after you flash the radio version), do the following:

1) Install the .cab that works with the radio you want to flash.

2) Do not soft reset but turn off the device.

3) Flash via MicroSD or via your PC in the bootloader.

If you have any questions or are still unsure of how go perform each flashing process, then just ask.

Regards.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] elFahd:
Hello, I recently bought an HD and im trying to find my way around it, my HD has radio 1.14 installed, I had a large amount of call drops today, and during the day GPS reception went ballistic on garmin and for a minute i would see myself teleporting from a place to another :P so i thought i'd upgrade my radio to 1.17, I have a couple questions tho:

1. I dont have an sd card just yet. However, OP highly recommends flashing from the card, is it safe to flash from PC (win7 64 bit)

2. What exactly is BlackstoneRUUWrapper.zip and what does it do?

Best wishes and Happy New Year!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] band27:
Hey there and welcome!

Before you do anything please visit the stickies at the top of the development thread.

It's important that you safe guard yourself from making your device into a paper weight. THIS Is Generally the place to start.

I have Windows 7 64 bit and there are no issues with doing it via the computer however there are some advantages to flashing a ROM/Radio via SD card.

The BlackstoneRUUWrapper.zip basically is a wizard that guides you through the Flashing Process. Most Chefs give you this and a .nbh file that is in esence the rom.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] elFahd:
hey there Band, dont worry I read the whole thing, and the wiki too ;) ive been using winmo for 4 yrs now. I flashed miri's ROM yesterday no problem. Im just a little concerned with some people's problems here when they upgraded to radio 1.17
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] band27:
Oh, ok....well then, if you have already HARD SPL your device and you have flashed your rom then you are rolling.

The radio is the same process as you already know. Just place your device into active sync mode and begin with your radio via the RUU_exe. way.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MasDroid:
Hi elFahd,

it might be an idea to try out other radio versions - but do this only if you are experiencing problems with 1.17, as certain radio versions are known to work only in specific regions.

Also, if not already cooked into the custom ROM of your choice, you should also install the RIL version that matches your radio version - 1.17 Radio supports RIL version 1.14 (1.14.25.24), which you can download the RIL via this link, at the bottom of post #1.

I remember another member mention that their phone would sometimes hang when/after receiving a call, this was solved by installing the associated RIL - a layer in an operating system which provides an interface to the hardware's radio and modem.

Best regards.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] coolfire:
Flashed this one since 2 days ago. ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] elFahd:
Thanks for the tip mastoid! I already had ril 1.14 installed. However, yesterday reception was awful. I couldnt get a gsm signal anywhere. When i did get a signal, people on the other end of the call would barely hear me, and my voice is a bit scrambled to them, on new years I experienced significant call drops every few seconds. everything was a disaster. I kept radio 1.17 and flashed another ROM Xannytech 2.4 I didnt make any calls yet, but the connection to my carrier hasnt dropped yet, the signal is either at 3 or 4 bars. I hope everything that I went thru was caused by the ROM and not by the radio itslef.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] borg28:
works good thanx.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] davi_ssilva:
Well, I didn't understand it very well... I mean... I already have radio 1.17 on my blackstone and I have a rilphone cab on my pc, so I'm supposed to copy it to my device and run it, right? I thought that was it, but you're saying that after that I have to turn my device off and get into bootloader to flash something... What exactly do I have to flash? The 1.17 radio again?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
No, if you already have radio 1.17 on your device all you need to do is put RIL 1.14 (nearest matching RIL for radio) on your device then soft reset. No need to reflash radio
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] freedompeace:
How does the battery life perform? My installed with rilphone 1.14 with this radio, the battery drop to 96 percent after a fullcharge. This incudes i reset it for 3 times.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] band27:
Keep in mind that some chefs already have these rilphone files pre-installed in there Roms.

Example

: Xannytech 1.7 and many others, so don't just start installing things randomly without having the knowledge of what you already have.

After 3 resets, most batteries fall pretty quickly. Testing should not be over from this observation as this is normal. The only real person that could tell how this radio is working is you as location is the #1 variable that is changing. Therefore, as I said previously, testing radios must be done individually because of location.

Personally, I downgraded from this radio but that doesn't mean that you will find the same results because of where you live.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] freedompeace:
Agree of wat u said, i live in Malaysia. After the 3 resets, then i went downtown listening to MP3 using Nitrogen for 1 1/2 hours. then now at 6.30pm since this morning full charged, it gone down to 68%. Is it normal? Anyway, i got the Momax X-level 1500mAh juz now. Cant wait to test it out :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] elFahd:
ive been using that since day 1 :D its amazing, unless ur using it for GPS or wifi :P
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] freedompeace:
How long u can get for the usage normally? Lets say some phone calls, texting, 3G off, play some videos and games, songs playing for 1 1/2 hours? :D

i'm using the same radio as u too, but i use energy rom though
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] elFahd:
well today ive used wifi for 15 mins, made a couple phone calls, played sonic for half an hour in class, reset the phone 5 times o.O (problems with clock not auto updating) I got back home from a 12 hours day with 82% of battery, so I think it would last 3 days easy. there's no 3G reception in lebanon, and I dont listen to music from my phone though :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] freedompeace:
icic, i juz bought the battery yesterday, and i didnt charge it for 8 hours yet. at first it says 55%, but after playing some games with it, it is still 55%. once i reset it, it becomes 34%. could it be battery prob or shud i flash the ROM again? Wat ROM are u using btw? :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
This thread is about radio 1.17.25.09. Can you please keep it on topic. If you are having other issues regarding batteries please discuss this on relevant threads or via PM

Ta

Rick
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] davi_ssilva:
Yeah, but the problem is that I have Dutty's Leo Holy Grail R0 and I searched for days and didn't found what rillphone it had pre-installed. So I just gave it a try...

Oh, and I noticed that the 1.14 rilphone cab appears in my Remove Programs menu. So, if I decide to remove it, I'll get back to my last rilphone? Or if I remove it, I'll be with no rilphone at all?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] touch guy:
This be a stupid question but....

Does this radio rom include bluetooth? I'm looking to fix a (common) problem of bluetooth connections dropping and then reconnecting (once), after the initial connection to a headset.

I'm running an older Dutty's rom...wondering if a radio rom update will help me.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] elFahd:
alright so back on topic, Today I made 1 phone call, and I recieved 3. In my call, at first, the person at the other end of the line couldnt hear me, 5 seconds later, it was better, then call dropped later during the conv. In the 1st call I recieved, the call d/c at around 25 seconds, and the person at the other end could barely hear me. The second phone call was slightly better, at first the person couldnt hear me, then it went better, untill the call dropped at 1 min 30 seconds. I think ill be reverting back to another version.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bodisson:
* Radio version: 1.13 -> USPL -> 1.17.25.09 (RIL 1.14)

* With ROM: HTC 6.1 WWE (UK)

* Country/Location/Network: Croatia/Zagreb/ViP

* Battery life: Still testing, but seems slightly shorter

* GPS: fix times improved both in cold and warm start (iGO 8.3)

* GPRS/3G/EDGE/HSDPA: better, but still switching too much between H/3G/E (compared to Polaris stock 6.1 ROM with same SIM card on same places)

* WiFi signal: not tested yet, but looks like slightly increased sensitivity [EDIT] slight improvement, stable

* General comments: Better than 1.13, but not good as Polaris one.

Still might try 1.14... Except if someone from same location/network tells me not to bother...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] iflysilver:
Can somebody tell me if I upgrade my ROM without uprading Radio and rilphone.dll, what will this cause for everyday usage?

Device: HTC HD

Rom: GridLeo 2.5B

Radio: 1.14.25.24 No rilphone.dll

Thank you so much.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Queequeg:
Most probably nothing. You’ll still have radio 1.14 you have now and it will work just as before.

Some users on the forum have never flashed any radio’s because they are satisfied with the stock radio.

But please be sure to check all changelogs and descriptions before you flash!

Some cooks (Laurentius26, for example) always include the radio - and it will be flashed automatically and change to their preferred version after the flash. Laurentius26 "L26 LEO V4 ultimate", for example, includes radio 1.13.25.24 and you’ll end up with it, having to reflash your radio back to 1.14 if you don’t want 1.13.

Of course it can do no harm, 1.13 is also a good radio, but avoid surprises by reading the changelogs.

Some other cooks include only rilphone, most probably 1.14, so you don’t have to install it with a cab (As you have radio 1.14, rilphone 1.14 is OK if it is pre cooked, you shouldn’t worry about it).

Some other cooks leave everything to you. The cooks always state these things in the changelog on the first page of their topics, if not, ask it before you flash, just to be sure you are not flashing another radio as well.

Rilphone 1.14 also works without problems with radio 1.17.

I was unsatisfied with the stock radio 1.09 as the GPS in "google maps" took ages to lock (even if I’ve run quickGPS just a moment before starting "google maps") and surfing with Opera made my device very hot in the antenna area (the bottom part on the back opposite of the hardware buttons). After I changed to 1.17, GPS lock improved VERY MUCH and the heating has disappeared.

I haven’t tried other radio’s. This one seems to work fine with my location and my provider, no issues at all so far and I am to lazy to flash and test 1.14 or any other radio versions… “if it ain’t broken, don’t fix it” ;).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sraaj:
after flashing with 1.17 i tried to upgrade with rilphone 1.14.25.24 Rilphone, and by diamond got busted.

It was stuck in aeroplane mode and the phone nearly hung up. No response.

Manage to get to clear storage and hard reset. So possibly i put the wrong rilphone.

Can some suggest where to get the rilphone dll. I see people have used 1.13 and so on.

Also my Radio is 1.15.25.14 and the protocol is 52.66.25.35G, I saw some other people with the same radio, but with a W or H in the end.

So I am terribly confused::confused:

1. What are there different protocols for the same radio? - does it mean that G=GPRS, H=HSDPA, W=???

2. How can I find my current rilphone.dll?

And this one might be stupid::o

How can I get a 3G connection on the diamond. I put the same sim card in Polaris, and the network is 3G, but on Diamond its only GPRS/GSM.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Sorry did you just say your Diamond got busted????

These are Blackstone radio's and are meant only for the Blackstone. You can only flash radio's meant for other devices if you have security unlocked your device first
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gabrielf:
Is 1.17 available as an nbh file?

Dear all

Being a newbee, I can't really figure out how to flash my radio from the cab file. I copied to micro SD and then double clicked to install but after it restarted there was no change.

I successfully upgrade my radio from 1.08 to 1.10 since the file is avaialble in nbh format with the HD_Blackstone_customRUU.exe program

Is there such a file for the 1.17 radio ?

Otherwise can someone help me to see where I am going wrong with the cab file?

Many thanks

Gabriel