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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fone_fanatic:
Are the scratches deep enough for a fingernail to get caught on them? thats what they ask you over the phone when turning in a device for a warranty exchange. If so then warranty is void.

On to the fun part :D

You could try unplugging the battery halfway through a flash which will cause the device to start up in bootloader mode. From their its easy to just restart the flash and be on your way. If you go to an At&t Device Support Center, most of the guys their aren't trained to each device specifically, they're mainly trained to rule out physical damage and go from there.

So it wouldn't hurt to try that. Unplug battery during flash and see what they'll do. I'll be surprised if they flash a rom because i've turned in one device that was stuck on a white screen and they just handed me a replacement fairly quick.

Now, the next thing you could try i figured out accidently by trying to improve GPS reception on my Tilt. Actually scratch that, just found out it won't work on the Raphael. With my tilt i took a copper wire (taken from an old landline telephone) and plugged it into the antenna extender port on the back of the device.

This greatly improved my GPS reception, then i stuck it in the other port (phone antenna) and i got 5 bars, but when i took it out, i couldn't get any service. I think it fried the antenna.

I took that device into the At&t Device Support Center and the guy at the desk handed it to the Tech who just looked at it, handed it back to me asked me if i wanted to back anything up and gave me another device (refurbished)

One last thing. Although i turned in a flawless At&t (no scratches nothing) in for a 5th warranty exchange and they gave me the Raphael, it ended up having 2 deep scratches on the frame of the keyboard of the device. When i called in they told me since it was my 5th return its not under any warranty.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mr.jaguar:
this is kinda a crappy question to ask, and it's the reason we pay such high amounts for our beloved phones. BUT.... just zap the sh!t outta it with a stungun simplest way I can think of. maybe microwave it for 5 or 10 seconds? nah.. that'd just start a fire. stungun.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] 10332007:
I wonder what a few seconds in the microwave would do or near a moderately strong electro magnet would do.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ryaske:
thankfully my fingernail does not get caught in the scratches .. its just abrasion scratches, kind of like what sandpaper would do. I can barely see the scratches when the screen is on .. unless I'm thinking about it.

I will try to F up a flash today. Maybe even when changing the bootloader so that there is nothing there to "take" a new rom. If anything, this will serve as a test-case for those wonder what would happen if your electricty goes out the next time your flashing (prevent it: use a laptop!)

for those that have contributed something useful so far. I THANK YOU. This forum is for sharing information, not morals.

I will post back with the results of the suicide and warranty exchange so others can learn from it
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Beeble:
Actually if you read the forum rules it clearly states:

I'd have thought discussing insurance fraud is certainly pushing & bending that, if not breaking it completely.

Deliberately breaking your phone to claim under warranty or insurance is fraud. Please don’t drag our forums down to your level.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hitman_sam69@hotmail.com:
Live with it

Exactly. Maybe you could learn a lesson and invest more care in your next device. Mods should close this thread.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ryaske:
ok, well under that logic, fraud will also be damaging your own phone, even if by accident, and then getting a warranty replacement and mentioning you have done so on the forum.

So that means everyone that flashes their phone and F's it up, then gets it replaced is also "getting the forum in trouble" because it is also technically warranty fraud.

How exactly the forum is now "in trouble", I will never know. Its not like you gave me the idea to screw my phone. I simply asked for advice and experiences. How dare I use a forum that has always been a help to me, for getting information, similar experiences, and help. I dont know what I was thinking.

Go ahead and lock the thread.. you guys are all whiney nannies anyway. Save me the trouble of having to hear you guys.

P.S. You should get out in the real world where cut throat tactics happen every day. Its kill or be killed in corporate America. (I work for a very large company and I know that so intimately, I couldnt give you the details if I wanted to .... i would fear for my way of life.)

Good luck on your crusade to right all the wrongs in the world. I learned its not worth the effort .. Playing their own game is far more beneficial.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ryaske:
one more thing. the worst thing that could have happened is I get denied the warranty exchange. That is my own risk and I acknowledge I'm taking it.

How would my attempt at warranty exchange EVER "obviously lead to legal trouble", ESPECIALLY for the forum???

If you want to quote the rules, you should interpret them as they are written. No where does it say "have good morals" and "dont bring the forum down to your level". I'm pretty sure it does say

and

Further, my intentional doings and my reports of what happened could actually help someone who has done the same, but by other unintentional means.

I am, as always, in the spirit of the forum, here to help and be helped.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Bruce Inman:
Stick it to the man! :D

FWIW, you could get an Invisible Shield that would make the scratches less noticable.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ryaske:
HAHA

Ok the deed is done. The hitman has collected. The eagle has landed
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hyachts:
Since you've gone to such great lengths to explain how this enterprise is going to benefit the community, and how anybody judging you is such a whiner, how about you explain the details?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ryaske:
Yeah I wanted to help people, but all the **** I got made me rethink the whole posting on the forum thing. I figured spilling more information will only get more people to chime in with their nasty nanny comments..... so I wasn't going to.

BUT since you asked, and you specifically were not one of the nannies (or atl east one that kept quiet.. i thank you!)... I would be happy to share the details.

I thought I would be able to kill it through software .. but it turns out bricking a phone intentionally is NOT an easy thing to do.

1) Pulling the battery is not enough to stop the flash. It will continue just fine on USB power only! Therefore I dont know how bad batteries could cause problems with flashing...

2) Stopping the flash of a ROM by pulling battery and USB almost always (for me, 10 out of 10 times) just causes the bootloader to complain "bad data" when you reset the phone, or something to that effect. You can reflash easily every time, I guess unless you stop it at the PERFECT moment ( I wasn't able to)

3) Stopping the flash of a Bootloader is absolutely impossible. I tried maybe 15 times (switching between stock SPL and the 1.90 SPL), but each time it loaded up just fine....

4) So,now getting desperate (Like I wasn't already...) I went to further measures. The stock battery is 3.7v DC. I applied 5 volts AC to the battery connector first, very quickly as fast as I could touch leads to the battery pins. Each time.. nothing happened and the phone booted fine.

So I stepped it up to 7.5, then 10. applying 10 v AC on the 3rd time was the charm. The LED flash blinked once very quickly, and then the phone ceased to turn on. I was nervous doing this.. I didnt want anything to physically fry. It turned out very well, it didnt get hot at all, no smoke and no burning smell.

Then I went to an AT&T store and turned it in for a new one. The guys there told me this wasnt the first time the Fuze came back completely dead!!! Imagine that.....

If the software bricking worked easily .. I planned on trying to recover it as a test case .. but alas it was damn tough. Thats also why I didnt really give many details.

This just goes to show everyone flashing your phone is really, really safe. I would say- flying in an airplane safe. When it fails, it does so rarely, and spectacularly and catastrophically... enough for all the media to hear about it (everyone on the forum). I wouldn't be worried tho, stepping on to a plane is just fine and chances are very good (you can round those chances to "always") it will work fine.. even if it screws up during the process some how.

So, GO FLASH THAT NEW ROM!! :)

A sincere thanks for the forum for putting up with an opinion/viewpoint that the majority clearly and rightfully disagrees with.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tora201:
All I can say is WOW - what a mean thing to do; torture your phone like that. You could also have tried waterboarding, because in America that is not considered torture.:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Thresher:
I have a warranty for my Fuze via ATT
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fone_fanatic:
alteast you got what u wanted :D

morals aside, i've had to intentionally damage a device before for warranty exchange only because they wouldn't honor the warranty for an obvious manufacture defect.

Also i was gonna mention somehow giving the device too much "juice" to fry it in my first post. What did u use to supply the power?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fone_fanatic:
Its all in the name of science! haha

Water voids the warranty, so no water-boarding. but electrocution did the job apparently :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ogrillion:
Ya part of me feels bad for the phone haha.. Its like when people try to kill there xbox 360 by covering it with a towel and running it
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] matt09:
haha i was going to say an easier way would just be to connect a small battery to the SIM pins which would leave the phone working but unable to read any sim.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] reaverclan:
thats why u try a SD card flash then pull it out i bet lol.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jimmer411:
I dropped my fuze in a sink full of water. Removed the battery and opened the keyboard and put it in a drying oven at work, 30 mins later it booted up fine and is running till this day. Is was easily 1ft of water and was fully submerged for a few seconds.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] DJGonzo:
You are a lucky person then.

And wow this thread is just amusing. We should do a thread on a 100 ways to brick/break your phone and see how many we can get to and then pick the top 10 funniest ones.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wolframio74:
its my rom or the htc home today (5 tabs, kaiser style) donst run very well on Windows mobile 6.5???

Regards!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] RotoRooted:
I have been searching the forums for the day trying to figure out how to set up apps2sd partitions on my G1. I am running Cyanogen Mod 4.0.4 along with the Cyanogen 1.4 recovery image. The forums have me all confused. I am trying to determine if I can do apps2sd partitions with the Cyanogen 1.4 recovery image...if so how? A link to a good guide or video would be appreciated.

I have read a number of "How to Apps2sd" guides that are catered to earlier Cyanogen Mods that require using the Apps2sd app and ADB to set up an ext/3 partition. However some forums state that with the Cyanogen 1.4 recovery image you do not need to use the Apps2sd app or ADB...is this true?

I need some direction on how to set up apps2sd with Cyanogen 4.0.4 and the Cyanogen recovery image 1.4. Also how much memory should I dedicate for each partition? I am expecting a Transcend 8gb class 6 card anyday, but want to try the apps2sd process with one of my class 2 cards for practice. I am familiar with the rooting process so have some basic knowledge. The whole Apps2sd process is somewhat foreign to me.

Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks in advance! -RotoRooted
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oraeanast:
ROM: cyan 4.02 +1.4rec

When i try to flash radio v2 to my g1 the error reads "E:No digest for org.anddev.andcam.m3d.rar

E:Verification failed."

any ideas guys? andcam m3d is an app i installed then uninstalled becuase i didnt want it. ???dnt really know what to do here
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oraeanast:
bump.

c'mon.. this is xda-dev's.. i know somebody knows the answer!!!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] david1171:
What is radio v2? Do you mean ota radio 2.22.19.26I? Can you provide the link you got it from? No digest usually means the package wasn't signed right or something? A link would help a lot
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oraeanast:
yes. that is the version i am trying to flash.

it was obtained from here http://sapphire-port-dream.googlecode.com/files/ota-radio-2_22_19_26I.zip

dont no what the ANDCAM 3D application has ANYTHING to do with flashing this radio. neither does a .RAR file.???
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Luke Stutz:
Need something with:

* mobile office

* touchflo (i think thats what it is)

* GPS of some sort

and wanted something that kinda looked like this.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3445618&postcount=157

have searched around and tried to figure out what all the different things people talk bout in there ROMS are but its very difficult to understand since i'm just getting into this. just need something basic as i use it to open invoice doumenst in word and look through my inventory which is kept with pictures. any help would be greatly appreciated!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ChumleyEX:
Thats not very basic at all. Try any of the 6.1 roms, they should all do what you want.

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=378
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] denco7:
The simplest is the stock rom. Add M2D (touch flo) and M2DC using link in my signature and then add stylez' theme and your go to go , with a basic rom and the theme that you want.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Luke Stutz:
oh and an easy way to get ride of the message sent notification!! that thing is annoying!!!

thanks for all you help guys
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] greywolf1965:
To get rid of the Message Sent notification go to Start>Settings>Sounds7 Notifications>Notifications - From the Drop down window choose Message sent and then unclick the "Display message on screen"...Hit "OK" and you are good to go.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Luke Stutz:
Start>Settings>Sounds7 Notifications>Notifications

my phone doesn't have the Sounds7 Notifications, whats highlighted in red above
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] greywolf1965:
What type of phone do you have and what ROM are you using?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] stylez:
Obviously too **** to notice 7 on a keyboard is & :D

He gotta have that as defacto on WM ROMs
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] anagarika:
To OP,

I have to add, that if you want something better without a sweat, you won't get it here. This is a DEVELOPER forum, so, expect to work at least on the reading, reading and reading front.

Check my sig and read those links, you'll get it ..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Rodri3000:
Luke!! i am your father!... now that is out of the way.... you should start by looking at the kaiser wiki. is your phone unlocked? sim unlocked? and like Denco said you should start with Stock rom (everything is at the kaiser wiki) and search around for the cabs for all the things that you listed.

Here
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Luke Stutz:
i have the AT&T Tilt 8925 and i'm running the stock rom from the htc website = AT&T Tilt Update - Version 3.57.502.2
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Luke Stutz:
oh ya found everything now but it still pops up and says message sent, i'll mess with it some more and see what i can figure out. thanks for all your help
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ChumleyEX:
search for kaiser tweak
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] stylez:
Or Advanced Config both will do it ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xlinkx:
I'm currently using EnergyROM Genesis manila 2.5 and I'm having some problems with sms. After sliding out the keyboard in the sms tab, the screen freezes and the phone is unresponsive. I had to remove the battery to restart the phone. This doesn't happen all the time, just randomly, but eventually it'll freeze. Does anybody have this problem with other roms? Someone please confirm if this is a rom issue or manila 2.5 bugs. If anyone have a fix for this, please post it here. Thanks in advanced.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jayr04:
2.5 is alpha. if you don't like it, downgrade to 2.1 or wait for official release :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xlinkx:
I understand that but I haven't seen anyone having the same issues so I was checking to see if anyone have this problem. If it's a rom issue then I can easily change rom but if it's manila's 2.5 bugs then i'll just wait for the official release.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xlinkx:
Would it be possible to use windows SMS instead of manila's sms?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dineshh:
SMS Manila 2.5/2.6

in sms tab, click all messages> settings> traditional mode and you'll get all traditional WM sms folders and working, though on slower end, but comparing the eye candy u get from Manila 2.5/2.6, it is worth.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] At0mAng:
Have not tried that but HTC Messaging works without 2.5 and somewhat works with 2.1.

Will give it a try when have time...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] At0mAng:
I get it sometimes in my ROM. It is just a manila bug...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DaveShaw:
Please post problems with ROM's in the realevant thread.

Thanks,

Dave
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xManMythLegend:
As topic says.

How many is too many icons on home screen before you get lag?

It obviously varies from rom to rom and how many widgets.

Just wondering how many you guys have (pages/icons/folders) and your personal experiences with lag increase or any performance differences.

I have main screen with clock and date widget and maybe 16 apps total between 2 other screens.

Ive recently started using advanced app launcher to clean up my app drawer making folders on home screen not needed for me.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oraeanast:
im currently using cyan 4.02 (with the 5-page home screen)

on EACH of the 5 pages i have a battery and clock widget, and every single page is loaded with APP icons, and two of the pages have all of MANUPS' Hero widgets on it. ROM seems to be running just as quickly as it did when i first installed it.

However, i would imagine if you are using a lot of high-memory or long loading time WIDGETS, you may get a lag.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JoshHart:
I currently am running 7 screens, 16 widgets and the rest of the space is apps. I don't usually get lag going back to the home screen unless I've been doing a lot of web browsing. I don't get the loading screen or anything though just takes a second to load up. I'm using switch rom so I also have manups AOSP on there with 5 home screens, 14 widgets the rest apps, same result.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xManMythLegend:
Hmmm... I may be too cautious with my apping of pages then.
[Palm Treo Pro] bolaak1:
I will like to unlock my Treo Pro from Sprint to try other carriers preferably one of the Prepaid plans. So can I go about this?
[Wing, P4350 General] kasnjsw:
:confused: hey new to this site, not quite sure how to install windows 6.5 on my wing.
[Wing, P4350 General] tonyc0642:
You need to first decide which ROM you want to install, and follow the installation instructions posted in the corresponding thread.
[Wing, P4350 General] ace10134:
Go to The Wingster in my signiture. Its got most of the ROM's there, along with flashing instructions.
[Wing, P4350 General] buru898:
But honestly I would stay with Windows Mobile 6.1... out phones are too crappy to make it run real smoothly... even being overclocked. Lose the eyecandy for stability :).
[Wing, P4350 General] Rim1Flex:
My rom Simply Everything wm 6.5.1 23031 Is good. It requires you to be HardSPL, click here to learn about HardSPL Also you must know how to flash.
[Wing, P4350 General] tonyc0642:
Seriously? Where have you been, there are several very stable 6.5 roms that are smooth as butter with lots of free memory, JustHomeV19 being the first that comes to mind.
[Wing, P4350 General] ace10134:
Any of them are good :p

But if he's fed up with Windows Mobile 6.5, he probably won't like the new 6.5.1, because that's even more drastically different!

But to the question, 6.5 is really good, it only sacrafices about 2 MB of RAM. Go for it! There's plenty of ROM's with it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] xauzainhatvn:
There 's alot game for XDA EXEC, support VGA LANDSCAPE but ... RIGHT HANDLE - Play without Keyboard. In OPTION game menu, not decide.

Ex: Age Of Empire, Heroes, Syberia :(( v.v...

I try to change LEFT HANDED, RIGHT HANDED SCREEN before start GAME, but CAN'T HELPFUL.

Anyone have idea or methode to FLIP SCREEN to LEFT HANDLE for Playing with KEYBOARD ?

In GAME - KEYBOARD is IMPORTANT ( More HARD BUTTON :D)

Thanks !!!!!
[Touch HD Accessories] Svegetto:
Hey guys, been digging through the threads and found a couple on earphones, though not exactly what I was looking. Looking for your opinions on best earphones with a microphone for about $35-$65. Comfortable, preferably in ear design. Hoping for a pretty good microphone so that people can actually hear me, especially outside, though I don't want the mic to be huge (that's one thing I liked about the stock headphones till they broke; the mic was discrete). Also, I would prefer one of the earphones to be longer than the other so that I could have them hang around my neck when not in use. All opinions welcome.

So far I've looked at:

Sennheiser MM50

MetroFi 170vi

-Thanks
[Touch HD Accessories] acolytelee:
Hi,

You can try

remote control with HTC ExtUSB

which has: mic+vol up/down+fward/bward

and 3.5 connector

and get an CX 95 style

I order this combination and they are on the way.

Check my post if you need details
[Touch HD Accessories] dinges54:
Does a Creative EP-630i work on a HD?
[Touch HD Accessories] Svegetto:
I can barely find anything on those headphones. Do you know if one side is longer than the other? (aka, is it an around the neck design?)
[Touch HD Accessories] dinges54:
I have found some info:

http://www.ciao.co.uk/Creative_EP_630i_Headset__7249793#productdetail

And a picture:

Does this headset works the same way as the htc headset that was supplied with the phone?
[Touch HD Accessories] Svegetto:
thanks for the picture. Too bad it's not an around the neck design. And yes, I believe all the headsets will work like the original one. Though I should note that none of the headsets will give you extra functionality like changing songs/volume, but you can still pick up/hang up calls.
[Touch HD Accessories] Techvir:
I brought a nokia headset hs47 and that does not work well with HD
[Touch HD Accessories] Fallen Spartan:
Personally I use Sennheiser MM50 headphones which has excellent quality
[Touch HD Accessories] acolytelee:
I guess not better than Sennheiser CX 95.

and MM 50 is about 50 euro(?), similar to cx 95
[Touch HD Accessories] Svegetto:
I was just about to buy those last night but then I saw that there were alot of fakes floating around and didn't want to get ripped off. Also, I found reviews for the "nuforce ne-7m" and they're all extremely positive. Everyone saying that they're better than the MM50, though, unfortunately, they're not around the neck design. I still ended buying them, if I don't like them I'll just return it and get the MM50s.
[Touch HD Accessories] Fallen Spartan:
Let me know how you got on with these, i.e. quality etc. Would be interested in knowing