yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mehmarine:
Suggestion to degrade or upgrade again

Thank you Dude,

I have done, and succeeded to upgrade with this radio,

But i found this radio good in simple stand by mode but, before with my 1.13 radio where i get full network signal there i get only 3 lines of signal with this radio, and the most impoetant when i was using WiFi my device extreamly heated up and the battery sucked from 100% to 40% in only 10 Minutes with this radio (It happened only when i was using WiFi).

And again i degraded to 1.14.25.14 Radio, which i found every thig good more than 1.17 network signals are very good with 1.14 and no heatup as well but Battery life has decreased from 100% to 80% in only 4 Hours.

I donot use Wifi so regular.

country= Afghanistan

Stock ROM 1.56 from HTC WWE

Network= MTN

No 3G and No GPRS Only gsm and voice calls and sms

but i use WiFi less often.

But i really like to test new things and keep new things and more important thing for me is Long battery life and increased network signal,

Please advise me what shall i do? should upgrade again to 1.17 or degrade to 1.13 which was shiped with my ROM?

Waiting for your comments dear friends,

Best regards
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] noris08:
can you elaborate?

i also say that, until now and from my opinion, 1.09 RIL works well with 1.17 radio

i ask you the same question - what could be the benefit from switching 1.09 with 1.14RIL?

- power

-speed

-stability

thank you!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] noris08:
cmmon guys!:)

it is my english or what?:confused:

it is clear that ideal is to match RIL and radio version

i asked what would be the benefit to change from 1.09RIL to 1.14 RIL in combination with 1.17radio? any combination is missmatched, so why 1.14 instead of 1.09?

LE:

nevermind. i'll keep current ril for 2-3 days and then i'll try 1.14, except that 1.17RIL wil occur meanwhile
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ardsar:
HTC have released this Radio Upgrade for the Asian market. As it just flashed the radio section of ROM, no RILPHONE would have been installed, therefore yes, there will be a mismatch between radio and RIL Version. However Radio 1.17 will therefore be based on an older RILPHONE, the question that needs to be asked is - what radio version was initially on this ROM - this will then tell you what RILPHONE it was designed around.

So far, RIL 1.14 seems better. With RIL 1.13 my wifi was a little unstable.

Radio 1.17 has also reduced the heating effect.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] brumbrum:
My battery life time is much better with 1.17. Used 1.14 before.

Also the phone dont get hot as before.

I am not fully sure, but my signal-reception seems to be somehow lower when driving from/to work then before. However I am not sure about this, or if the radio "reports" diffrent signal-strength-numbers back to phone since I am still able to make and recieve calls without problems.

But else I cant find any down-sides with this radio.

Nice to have a phone that isn't always warm and that have better battery.

(havn't changed RIL since 1.14, so same file)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] core7x:
radio from 1.16 xperia maybe the best for now..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kostas66:
Using 1.17 with panosha Black Perl 3.4, everything seems fine !

K
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Roadrunner100:
* Radio version: 1.17.25.09

* Previous Radio version: 1.13

* With ROM: Stock - 1.56.401 WWE

* Country/Location/Network: Israel/TA/Pelephone

* Battery life: Increased Standby time, drains faster when Phone, WiFi and GPS used.

* GPS: Good reception, 10 second GPS fix

* GPRS/3G/EDGE/HSDPA: Currently using HSDPA, better reception on 2100

* WiFi signal: Better reception.

* General comments: Heat build up as before when using WiFi and or GPS.

(Phone sometimes hangs when/after receiving a call!) Solved by installing 1.14 RIL.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miniterror:
for me the gps is a little lesser then 1.14 with rill

now its doubting ive it has gps inside and with 1.14 it had constant

wifi goes a bit better tho

and heating up is normal i think when using wifi or gps because it are heavy programs
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] RobRedbeard:
I've been running this for the past day. Before I was on 1.14.

I noticed lower WCMDA signal bars (maybe it's turning down power on the receiver radio when signal is plentiful, I don't know).

It doesn't seem less hot for me than any before.

I ran down the battery extra quickly, but that may have been because I was also using Leo R4 in place of R12, which I'd been using before.

Seems like everyone else got lower heat. Wish I had.

Rob

PS. I wasn't able to get a GPS signal at all while in a cab (something I can usually do fine, again though, ROM could be affecting that)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sweet_eye_h:
U welcome; as i saw readin this thread many hav problems with the wifi

and for me i had problems with the reception of gsm like u,but the only good think i guess it was a good gps signal, so 4now iam stickin with the 1.17 for few days testin more but i guess iam gettin back to 1.14 if my issues not solved with the gsm reception ,,"so i guess 1.14 is the stable one"

cheers:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] anssibragge:
Unbelievable how much faster the gps just got with this - had earlier the 1.14.

abe
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] schink:
NO GPS reception after upgrade to 1.17.25.09

First upgraded to 1.17.25.09 with an old duttys rom. GPS was working fine. Then flashed to duttys WM6.5 HD Leo R4. No GPS reception anymore. It sees sattelites, but appears not to receive a signal from any of them. I flased duttys WM6.5 Leo R4 another time with the 1.17.25.09, the problem persists however.

I did not hard reset but the phone started with the align screen, so I thought it was already hard reset.

I have no idea how to fix it, since I assume the appropriate RIL and even the 1.17.25.09 were already included in duttys rom.

Any ideas?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] illuzi0n:
sweet finally got it to work :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Smobbo:
Maybe a stupid question, but:

Where can i see what rilphone version i have?

I'll update to this new radio, but i'm unsure if i have the old 1.09 rilphone version or the newer 1.14.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] TheOne741:
Posting my message here too in the hope that more will read it.

Hi all

I have just installed radio 1.17 and rilphone 1.14 since there is no rilphone 1.17 and i am exeriencing scrambled voices during calls. I cant hear the others and they cant hear me. Both of us hear only metallic scratches as if voices are beeing scrambled. Is anyone else having the same issue? If i hang up and call again, everything is perfect.

Thanks in advance
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cvchetan:
this can be caused by network problms.. i can say this because it happened a lot wid me and it even did happen when i switched to a nokia phone..

it might also be related to ur radio but, i m using 1.17 with 1.14 ril and never faced such a problem..

so chances are that its a network related problem..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] extratag:
Give a link to mirror,please.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] XaKing:
Rapidshare link: http://rapidshare.com/files/280335586/Radio_1.17.25.09.Mreyes.htclive.es.rar

:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Rumbi:
* Radio version: 1.17.25.09

* Previous Radio version: 1.16 (Kovsky)

* With ROM: cmHD

* Country/Location/Network: Germany/South Lower Saxony/O2 Germany

* Battery life: worst i've ever had! drains battery really fast

* GPS: same good results as with 1.16

* GPRS/3G/EDGE/HSDPA: i think it's not as good as 1.16 with GSM & EDGE

* WiFi signal: untested

* General comments: No heating up, but i think i'll go back to 1.16 bevause of the battery issue
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] rocky0:
be carreful, hard reset after flashing

Hello evrybody,

I just try this last radio with a Dutty 3.9 XT and... it make a hard reset, i lose evrything :(

it's not a real problem because i wanted to change my rom ( i didn't know witch one i will take dutty or pdaviet!!!)so...BE CARREFUL!!!

PS: sorry for my bad english!!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Valti:
I have installed 1.17 radio one week ago, GPS works significantly faster, quality of signal was good.

Then after installing of Ril 1.14 I started experience quite big distortions while voice calls, deinstallation of ril 1.14 returned back to the good quality.

So far I am happy with the Radio 1.17
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pandemoniumone:
* Previous Radio version: 1.14.25.24

* Radio version: 1.17.25.09

* ROM: PDAViet WM 6.5 (23053) V63

* Country/Location/Network: USA/Sacramento/at&t

* Battery life: Pretty consistent with 1.14 version.

* GPS: No change for me, fast signal lock.

* Wifi: performance consistent with 1.14, no change.

* GPRS/3G/EDGE/HSDPA: consistently 1 more signal bar compared to the 1.14 radio which is nice.

* Comment: A nice improvement from my previous radio!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ramdacBlueAngel:
* Previous Radio version: 1.14.25.24

* Radio version: 1.17.25.09

* ROM: PDAViet WM 6.5 (23053) V63

* Country/Location/Network: Italy/Milan/Wind

* Battery life: Just a bit better than 1.14 version.

* GPS: fast signal lock.

* Wifi: performance consistent with 1.14, better performance on connecting startup

* GPRS/3G/EDGE/HSDPA: test only HSDPA consistently to the 1.14 radio

* Comment: No heating up! Good radio!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] D'rath:
* Previous Radio version: 1.14.25.24

* Radio version: 1.17.25.09

* ROM: Phoenix 1.0 WM6.5

* Country/Location/Network: Italy/BG/Wind

* Battery life: as 1.14 version (no big changes).

* GPS: fast signal lock.

* Wifi: no big changes

* GPRS/3G/EDGE/HSDPA: not yet tested (no 3G signal here)

* Comment: during use of WiFi/DataConn device is colder

D'rath

PS: Good radio!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] be1hov1:
If I install this Radio 1.17.25.09 (my current is 1.13.25.24) will it only upgrade the radio version number, or will I have to install a new ROM afterwards and all my aplications again?? I have resently installed a new ROM with windows mobile 6.5 and installed all the applications I use, why I only will install a newer radio version if it dosent interfer with the "rest" of the phone.

/Be1hov1
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pandemoniumone:
As has already been explained many times in this thread, flashing the radio will not hard reset your device unless you use the original exe. version from HTC. I downloaded the link in post #7, extracted the nbh. file and flashed as usual with no hard reset.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] -Andyoid-:
* Previous Radio version: 1.14.25.24

* Radio version: 1.17.25.09

* ROM: Dutty v3.9 WM6.1 M2.1

* Country/Location/Network: Norway/Telenor

* Battery life: not sure yet

* GPS: Fix within a minute of first trying

* Wifi: my wireless router died last week (not related, though! :) )

* GPRS/3G/EDGE/HSDPA: Looks ok!

* Comment: Just upgraded and did NOT experience hard reset with Dutty 3.9. This will not (and should not?) hard reset your phone.

I will edit this post later.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] neoculture:
i have notice this new radio get rid of the gps lag you get on TomTom.

has anyone else noticed it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] schink:
Solved this: I downgraded to 1.14, then upgraded to 1.17 again, problem solved. So people with GPS issues on 1.17: this might work for you too!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Sounds like you had an issue with using an older RIL and using latest RIL from 1.14 radio with 1.17 radio solved the issue
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
Does anyone know how to find out what the version of a ril file is in a ROM?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ausi:
Can you (anyone) say anything about the GPS Lag in Igo8, did it improve with the new radio??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mehmarine:
Thanks

Thanks Again for ur kind comments once again,

Yes u were right i have also downgraded to 1.14.25.24 as well and now i am ok with it,

Because i am not user of GPS here in Afghanistan, i wish to use it but i dont know how and what navigation program shall i use which works without Internet and also i dont know if any map for Afghanistan is available any where.

So only for GSM signal and battery life 1.14 is better.

Regards
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Valti:
You can try Google maps if you have problems with installation of Tom Tom or iGo8.

Google Maps quite good in conjunction with GPS, try it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] zac68:
Sure have. It used to take me at least a minute to get a signal, here in Perth, Western Australia. Now I'm up in about 10 seconds.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Roadrunner100:
No noticeable lag now. I am also experiencing an improvement in map redraw reaction time to direction changes. I'm using Igo 8, v8.3.2.91972.

Blackstone, Stock 1.56 WWE ROM

1.17.25.09 radio with 1.14 RIL
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] konidair:
I installed this Radio yesterday and i noticed that when i use wifi or 3G connection my HTC heats up 3 times less than before(1.14) :)

I'm very happy about it
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] frederikk:
Hi, just got a small question about flashing. I read the wiki, but not sure if i fully understand it...

I have a touch HD.

When i boot on bootloader, i've got this :

Security unlocked

BLAC100 32M

SPL-1.14.000

MicroP Blackstone (LED) v5

So as far as i understand, i have not the good HSPL to flash another rom. I'm now with a stock rom, with stock radio ... and in fact it's quite good for me with this rom... but i would like to update the radio, to have a more stable 3G and EDGE connection, and perhaps to have the device not getting so hot when doing some wifi or 3G... and of course if it could be a little better with the battery life, although i'm already ok with that... but of course more is better :)

So, what i didn't understand is : can i flash my radio to 1.17 and update my ril to 1.14 quite easily ? And by "quite easily" i mean just placing the file on the microSD root and go on in bootloader ? Because ok i don't have the hard spl, but it is written security unlocked... so it is enough for the radio update ?

Moreover, for the ril, is it better to do it before or after the radio update ? ( of course is i can make it easily as i asked before.. ).

And last but not least, if i'm not ok with the radio or ril, can i go back to stock radio and ril ? or perhaps to 1.14 which seems to be a good and stable one...

Thanks by advance... i know those question are often asked.. but i'd rather ask them again to be sure not to brick my HD... :( Quite long ago i updated a diamond, but i was young and dumb ;) eveyrhing goes ok... but... now i realise what could have happened !

Ciao

Fred
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cvchetan:
u can use USPL 2.5 to flash radio.

RIL is a cab file tht u can find in the radio section. no need to enter bootloader to install ril.

install ril first then radio( u need hspl/uspl to flash radio n not ril)

yes u can go back to ur stock radio or for tht matter any radio.

infact since ur hd is security unlocked u can go for the 1.16 xperia radio.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Valti:
Some people happy with Radio 1.17 and RIL 1.14, but for me it did not work, the reception and voice calls were distorted and scrambled, I have uninstalled RIL 1.14 and everything is OK now.

As mentioned above - as long as you have you device Security unlocked - you can try both radios - 1.16 and 1.17 and see - which one is better for you.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] frederikk:
Thank you to both of you for your answers :)

Just a precision, i have to use uspl so ? I can't update my radio just by placing it on the microSD and enter bootloader. So perhaps it is event better to install the olinex HSPL 1.14.. so after that it wil be easier to "test" radio 1.16 and 1.17, am i right ? The HSPL cannot have drawbacks on the system ? ( it is only in case of guaranty .. which is already gone.... )

Ciao

Fred
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cvchetan:
even if gurantee is not gone.. hspl is always the best...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
If your gonna use HSPL, make sure you use the correct version.

HSPL 1.14 is to be used on roms based on pre 1.56

HSPL 1.56 is to be used on roms based on 1.56+

If you use incorrect version your colours will be distorted and your phone will not work properly
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] frederikk:
Again, thanks to both of you :p

Yes i will use the 1.14 because i think i will keep my stock rom because it is quite ok, no major problems ( even if i would like to have the new TF3D version... but it's ok ) and i'm very very lazy to re-install everything back and re-apply all the good tweaks i'm found here ;)

Just wanted to update the radio rom to have a newer one... hoping it will increase a little the quality of my touch HD which is a very very good phone for me :)

Ciao

Fred
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Updating your radio will not affect your rom or tweaks/apps etc on your device. Its separate, but you need to flash a radio by using the same method you would flash a rom, using either USPL or HSPL
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] frederikk:
Thank you. This is what i understood reading the wiki and some threads about that....

Just to let you know : just applied the Hard SPL from olinex.... :)

Going for radio now ! From the microSD method or from usb don't know yet... microSD seems easier to me :)

Ciao

Fred

Edit : just tried the microSD card method... without success...when entering bootloader, it tells me "no image" and staying in bootloader.... don't know why. But can't test wit hthe custom RUU because of the antivirus ... it deletes me the customruu.exe.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cvchetan:
be sure u rename the .nbh to blacimg.nbh before u flash from the card...

also if u dnloaded the radio from the htc site, then extract the .nbh from the exe u dnoaded before flashing..

happy flashing
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] frederikk:
I renamed the .nbh to BLACIMG.NBH but without success... the bootloader tells me "no image".

I have downloaded the package from the wiki radio page : http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Radio The first link in fact... Extracted to my pc.. the customRUU.exe where deleted by the antivirus, but took the .nbh, renamed it and put it on my sd card... no success...

Ciao

Fred

PS : at least i saw i have the 1.14Olinex SPL now... even if for now it does not change anything for now :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] frederikk:
Very funny thing...

i just get the other link, rapidshare mreyes.... and when i unzip this version, the Blackstone_customRUU.exe is not deleted by the antivirus !!! So is there a problem with the one on the wiki radios page ?

I'm a little bit afraid of using this customRUU from here, in case the antivirus wakes up during the update process ! :(

Ciao

Fred

Ok. Done... can't wait... with the CustomRUU from the rapidshare spanish link. No hard reset. Now i will see how the battery is and if the device is colder during wifi or HSPDA sessions...

Now i'm still with the old RIL... don't know if it is really useful...

Thank you again for your help. Hope my story and questions will help or reassure others newbies like me !

Ciao

Fred
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] marly70:
Hotter than ever

For mosst people this radio seems to be an improvement.

But in my case me HD is getting much hotter, best in this case was 1.13...

I am using the PDAVIET V64.

Any ideas? :cool:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] maidad:
Thank you.:):):)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cvchetan:
well it differs due to the netwrk u use.

sum times it does not work welll...

but the fact is--> dont go on the latest radio's. choose what best suits u. sumtimes olders radios r much better.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] datzent83:
Updated my phone to this radio but the phone still gets hot, particularly the bottom half right below the battery. I am using Miri WM 6.1 21054 - MANILA 2.5 :: V 2.0.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] latingate:
Where can I get maps of Israel?

Are they good? (heard they are very partial)

Thanks
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Henrikmand:
Maps for what?

For Google Maps, you always download the latest from Google.

If it's for a piece of navigation software, you should ask where you bought the software.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] abis123:
Is it possible to stop custom words being added to the XT9 My Words dictionary* from the keyboard? Its a pain when you accidentally don't press space and end up with a custom word being added which is a concatenation of 2 words. I can add custom words from the XT9 My Words application so don't need the keyboard to do it for me. Many thanks in advance!

*I'm not sure if the XT9 My Words dictionary is just the Windows Mobile one.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Fallen Spartan:
You can open the eT9 program and then delete the words which where created by mistake.

Go to windows/eT9MyWords.exe

To get quick access to this program, create a shortcut for it and put shortcut in Windows/Start Menu/programs

If you want to back up words you have saved go to /Windows and save these 2 files. eT9Cdb.Cdb and eT9Rudb.Rdb. After a hard reset of flash to new rom simply replace original files in windows folder with your saved files.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] abis123:
Thanks very much for your reply. I currently use that program as it goes, fairly often as well. Ideally I would add custom words in this program and stop words coming from the keyboard. Many thanks.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] skorzo:
Hi there, i have a new Diamond ("Victor", from Movistar Spain) and i've reading a lot in the forum in order to set up the device (i had a tytnII before).

I've a lot of questions regarding GPRS/3G/HDSPA connections..

A) Start-Configuration-Phone-Network

I can choose between GSM/WCDMA/AUTO. Does this apply over voice or over data and voice connections?

If i choose GSM then "G" icon (from 3g, i guess) appears on upper bar. If i choose "Auto" then i get "H" icon. So...

Can i choose GSM (in order to save battery) while my data connections can be HDSPA?

B) Can the Diamond update de email accounts via GPRS/3G/HDSPA in suspend mode?

I mean, i often leave the device on suspend mode in order to save battery, and i configured emails in order to update each 10 minutes.

Will the device update the emails in suspend mode or only when it wakes up?

Thaaaaaanks!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] JoOoSs:
Hello,

A)

GSM only active the base data (G = GPRS, E = EDGE)

WCDMA active both GSM&3G (3G, H = HSDPA or 3G+)

Auto allows the phone to choose one of the mode.

Those settings only affect DATA, no call/SMS and whatever, because it uses only GSM.

And yes you can choose only GSM if you want to save battery, it will just affect the speed of your data connection ( G< E< 3G< H)

B) I can't update my mail with my provider, but the diamond can use the data connection in suspend mode, so it will works i know, why do you not test yourself ?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] skorzo:
Thanks for your reply.

I didnt test by myself because i hadn't a flat fee for data.

Now i have a flat fee...and a GREAT issue....

I configured my email account on Pda and i can send and receive mails...but only via WIFI, not via HDSPA/3G. When i do "Send and receive" it fails and says "Sync error".

However, with the same setup, i can use Opera, Google Maps, or update the weather.

Why does outlook does not connect?

UPDATE: I have changed a setting on Connections and now it works but i dont know why..... and i dont know if i am loosing something else with this.

Connection - Proxy - Disable proxy (it was On by provider default)

Thanks