yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pipoawas:
Hi, S2P is a great software, but with a big annoyance: it depends on WMP to play music... I'm sorry but in that case is S2P a player or just a skin for WMP? Does this mean that if my WMP becomes corrupted I won't be able to play music on S2P anymore, because it isn't a 'real' player?

I have many .m4a files in my PDA --they provide the same quality of good mp3 but with smaller file sizes, something very important with limited storage devices--, but I can't get WMP to play the m4a/aac even if my life depended on it! I tried every cab, install, hack I could find but nothing worked.

WMP only suports aac in HTC, but the thing is, not everyone has an HTC, and I believe it doesn't have even half of the Windows mobile share. My device is a Mitac Mio P350.

Every other player supports aac, or at least supports plugins to expand it's audio formats range. There are open source audio formats, other players use it, some of them way less advance than S2P, so why had S2P to be different (and for the worst)?

Another thing: in many texts describing S2P, some of them don't even mentioned that it will play aac/mp4 *only* if wmp supports them, like the S2P readme in S2P official site.

This support issue is far more importante than 'sleep time', multi-language (who can't understand the english in a music player anyway??), Wired Remote Control, etc etc. It's a music player, not a 'do-it-all' thing, it's main function is to play music in several formats. But S2P just plays MP3, WMA (the worse lossy codec ever) and WAV (WAVE? is there really someone that puts uncompressed songs in a smartphone??)

If you don't want to develope S2P with it's own codecs, at least make it "plugin-able", I'm sure many others would develope the codecs for it; or make it in a way able to use already developed freeware codecs. Hell, if you want it to depend from another player, at least make it depending of TCPMP that plays an extensive array of formats, AAC included, but WMP?

Your player is great, feels great, but it can't be considered a real player, not while it depends on another -and very limited- player, who can't play one of the most widespread, modern, efficient and mobile audio formats.

The irony: your player is heavily inspired by the one in ipod, and yet it's also one of the very few that doesn' support their main format, AAC.

I really hope you finally adress this problem in the future. And yes, it's a problem, WMP is limiting your software big time.

Thank you for reading and best regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Olioaglio:
A_C,

would love S2P to feature an own EQ as I mostly use it while biking/running with my BT A2DP stereo headset: While I love it using S2P with my BT headset cause of the remote feature, I am not quite happy to be not able to use the HTC EQ with BT. As you know HTC Audio Boost only supports wired headset and does not work with Bluetooth. Some players (like e.g. MortPlayer) feature an own EQ function which is great for exactly this issue as it works with both wired and BT. Any plans to integrate such a feature in S2P or at least any idea for a workaround to be able to use HTC AudioBoost with S2P?

Would be very recommended.

Cheers, Olioaglio
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] A_C:
@alanboo

For your experience on BT, I'm not sure why you need other application to re-route the audio output to A2DP... When I'm using the BT stereo headset, I follow these steps:

- turn on the device's BT

- turn on the BT stereo headset, wait for a few seconds for it to connect with the device again (as they've already paired in the past)

- S2U2 will starts S2P & then enjoy...

For the HVGA issue, sure you can set the emulator to whatever screen resolution you want. But the problem is you don't know what exactly DPI the vendor has set for HVGA device.

Tap the first song of that album.

S2P won't lock the phone, it only turns off the screen when playing music so as to save the battery.

@pipoawas

S2P is more than a skin for WMP if you really look at what it can do...

It's not true as it's already stated clearly on the README since S2P started to support AAC/MP4...

Finally, for your last question, I think I'm not that skillful to code a codec for WMP.

@Olioaglio

Again, I think I'm not that skillful to code an EQ for WMP.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] alanboo:
Thx for the reply

my BT experience is the everbody's BT experience with WM6.5...

consider a device (car-radio) that support handsfree + A2DP standards, then when turned on it will connect with the phone in handsfree mode that is NOT a2dp. So i need to enable A2DP manually.

It's a wm issue, there are some application to auto-enable A2DP instead of handsfree but they work with MS BT stack...not with widcomm one.

I'm working with a boy that is writing a C# wrapper lib to the official widcomm.. and he says that the widcomm api is not complete to do it and we are trying to hack it.

So A_C nevermind for bluetooth.

For auto-lock ok, but i repeat my question considering this wm display configuration:

-30 sec for automatic backlight dim

-1 min for the auto-turn off of the device

-S2P option is off cause i don't want to completely turn-off the display

"so if i want that the phone will not "auto-lock" only when S2P is running... what to do? is it another feature of S2U2?"

For HVGA my DPI is 128 but i don't know if another HVGA phone use less-or-more dpi. I speak for HTC HD MINI and all that have a HVGA 3.2" screen

http://techwireless.blogspot.com/2010/05/how-to-emulate-htc-hd-mini-in-visual.html

From the microsoft site:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa932942.aspx

Finally:

Remember if u can to make an option to completely remove top taskbar

many thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] GuustFlater89:
A_C, it would be great if you could include the open source player components like the ones used in Nitrogen (I'm no specialist in legal aspect of the open source stuff...)

This would enable all kind of music types, like AAC etc. I'm still in between Nitrogen and S2P.

Nitrogen can play almost any filetype, has a very interesting function with <Next song> without directly jumping to that song (kind of preselecting the next song)

S2P has a great library function and playlist support.

If we only could combine the best of these two players ......:cool:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pipoawas:
Hi, thanks for the reply.

Yes, it is, I admit that "skin" may be a little reductive, but it's not a real player either, is more like a sophisticated front-end.

At the features yes, but right at the beggining it says only this:

S2P is a stylus-free MP3/MP4/M4A/AAC/WMA/WAV/M3U/PLS/ASX music player. S2P simply lets you browse & play your music easily. S2P fully integrates with S2U2; & supports A2DP & AVRCP.

But whatever, that's not the most important.

Outsource the coding then :) ; or make it able to read already existent free codecs, or dependable on a different and complete player, so many choices..

TCPMP and Nitrogen are good start points, perhaps it's even easier to make S2P use them the way it currently uses WMP . It could be one, if not *the* best player for mobile devices.

At this level of advancement S2P shoud be independent from external players, or at least be dependent on one more versatile with more codecs (TCPMP or other). It's almost as if linux had to be run on top of windows :P (almost.. ;))

I didn't said anything about this sooner because I always believed it to be something you would develop in the next versions; but after so many of these, and now that S2P is paid and everything -and yet without this feature-, I had to say something.

The program is excelent, one almost wants to run it just to 'feel' it and not for the music itself, but it cannot be my definitive player on winmobile because of this.

And since windows mobile (not mobile 7) is becoming more and more a dead platform, will you develope S2P for winmobile much more? I mean, if you don't improve it know, I fear you may start loose interest in S2P for winmobile and it will be foverever incomplete.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] A_C:
@alanboo

For your lock question, there is no such option in S2P or S2U2.

For HVGA support, I don't think I'll add the HVGA support unless it's officially supported by the SDK. There are a lot of similar requests from other developers in the WM forum, but still no response from MS. What a shame.

@GuustFlater89 & @pipoawas

Unfortunately, S2P is not & will not be an open source project.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] alanboo:
hem :D

today in S2U2 i read this:

"don't lock when a user specified application is running "

....

so it's what i looked for
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] htctouchelfin:
HI, i have istralled 1.2 version on my htc blackstone, it runs, but there's no sound when music is playing why?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Olioaglio:
Is your phone maybe in silent mode?

There are two control bars in the main screen of s2p.

the upper one is the song progress bar, the lower one

is the volume bar. Depending on settings of s2p the lower one controls the system volume or independent of the system volume only the volume of s2p. So if your system volume would be silent, even a full volume slide in s2p would not effect the volume.

Olioaglio
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] djsolidsnake86:
what about a feauture that scan my storage and storage card for find the audio files?

i also found a bug: if i have in a folder many files from various artists, s2p see this as a single album
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rubesh:
while listening to a song how do I plug it into on-the-go?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] holmanm:
This is not a bug, it is by design. It has been discussed on here many many times.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hadiuk:
Playlist

Hi, I just bought a S2P from MarketPlace for my HTC HD2. installed it, tried it, works fine... just a little question: how can i make a playlist? tried to read this from but its too long and i got confused halfway through... is there anybody to help with a simple language and instruction? thank you.:confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] A_C:
Follow these steps:

- go back to the lists view by tapping the "Back" button

- tap the "Playlists"

- tap "On-The-Go"

- if the existing "On-The-Go" list is empty, it will go to "add song", tap

any song you want to be added to the "On-The-Go" list;

- otherwise, tap the "Edit" button & now you can delete any song & change the sequence; or tap the upper "+" button to add more songs.

- tap the upper "Done" button to finish & automatically saved.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hadiuk:
wow..see who answered me, The Big Boss ! :) i must be lucky today...

Thanks A_C..you're a Kind Gentleman...

I did That and it worked... I made a couple of test Playlist, now i can't delete them... how to delete playlists?

by the way, i know you are busy and its silly to answer all these little questions from everybody( i know you are kind enough to do that, ...), but, is there any online manual or user guide for how to's and whats this and that? i think it would be helpful for a lot of customers with normal knowledge like me.... Thanks A_C... Thank you very much
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bloody86:
I'm faced with a disagreement between S2P v1.3 and S2U, when I play music and push the power button to turn off screen, S2U turns off the player! And if I install previous S2P 1.2 version than everything is work as it should!

Why is it happening!?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hadiuk:
Delete Playlist in S2P

heyyyy... I found my own answer :p

just to add this answer for those who have the same question and for the search engines, i explain it here:

to delete a playlist in S2P, you need to go to Playlist screen, then touch and hold your finger on the playlist you want to delet, for about 2 seconds, all of sudden a little menu comes up from the bottom of the screen that lets you to delete that playlist......done!

Well done to myself... I am a genius :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kobers:
Hi,

I got S2P from the Marketplace, great tool also the function with the Bluetooth.

I downloaded the latest S2U2 version 2.43.

I activated to see the S2P buttons. but can not see them on S2U2.

I installed both on the Device, not on the Memory Card.

any Idea why it is not working.

thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] potatochip:
You need to enable it in the S2U2 options under the S2P menu item.

You should then be able to tap on the S2U2 screen to make them appear and tap again to make them disappear.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kobers:
thanks this works when the program is active.

but it doesn´t work when the progi is not running in the backround :-(

Is this normal ?

thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] elvisn:
Hello,

Can anyone tell me if S2P plays internet streaming - like Open URL function in other players.

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JoNu:
I'm having the same problem [Omnia i910] :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] A_C:
If you've purchased S2P from Marketplace, please send an email to s2p at ac-s2.com to follow up.

If you've purchased S2P from Marketplace, please send an email to s2p at ac-s2.com to follow up.

No.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CHfish:
Is this feature now available?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] roisagi:
letter scroll bar does not scroll - i can only click on a letter - not scroll.

device: omnia pro b7610, WM 6.5

any advise?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Yom:
Possible bug on 1.3

Hi A_C,

On the latest and greatest S2P, going back to the beginning of a track with the REW button stops playback (the play button seems to have no effect), until REW is pressed again and then FWD.

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Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] A_C:
Not yet, as it'll slow down the start-up with the existing architecture of S2P.

Because it's an index bar not a scroll bar. But if you keep moving along the index bar, it should work like scrolling.

It's fixed & will be released in the next version, hopefully within a week.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rmanaka:
Here's my work around!

One really easy and nice workaround I use is to use a utility file renamer (I use Flash Renamer by RL Vision, http://www.rlvision.com ) to automatically rename the file based upon information contained in the MP3 tags...I prepend the track number and the artist name before the track name. An alphabetical sort of files in the sub-folder is then in track order rather than by track name.

Since S2P bases its displayed information on the info contained in the MP3 tags (see my screenshots), when I select an album either by Artist or by Album, the tracks play in track number order. If I select shuffle, it doesn't matter what the files are named!

HTH!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] johngck:
S2U2 alarm light up at 12:00 AM

Dear AC

Could I check with you why my omnia II will automatically light up at 12:00 AM every night even there is no alarm set at the WM alarm? How can I stop the alarm light up at S2U2 ? I have even installed G-Alarm but it does not stop the auto light up at 12 am even when I set my G-alarm at 7 am. It becomes very scary especially when you are sleeping soundly in the night and it lights up automatically at 12 am.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] GunnarKarlsson:
Hi

just wanted to add a quick tip that I have not found anywhere else.

I had problems starting application after a reinstallation of s2p after a ROM update.

The phone just froze when s2p was started. I have an Omnia II with 16G memory and a 32G SD card. I removed the SD card which have a kind of complicated folder structure and the startup went OK. I then set music library to the correct folder and s2p could start even though I have the SD card inserted.

So a bug report about the initial folder for the music directory should maybe not be the root folder? (I think it was s2p searching through the SD card that caused the freeze)

Kind regards

//Gunnar
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] p50kombi:
g-alarm is actually the reason your device wakes up every 12AM..

I had the same on my device.

It has something to do with recurring alarms I think and a bug in previous WM...

I suggest you use latest g-alarm version and look for tweak to disable wm bug (think that's what it's called) in the g-alarm forums.. (www.ageye.de)

Good luck
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Vaughan_Davies:
This is a pity. Many albums have to be listened to in the right order to make sense.

I tried renaming a few of my DRM-protected subscription files to have track number at the start of the name, but they stopped working.

For me this would be a priority
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rmanaka:
Yes, that is a shame...I have albums as well (The Storyteller; Ray Davies for example) that narrates a story from track one to track thirty.

Too bad you can't blast out the DRM!:rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] holmanm:
Another workaround that might work, I just tried and it worked for me.

In the existing folder where the files are, create folders called 02, 03, 04 ..., for every track but #1 (or 002, 003, 004, ... if more than 99). then MOVE track 2 to 02 folder, track 3 to 03 folder, and so on. Then when you pick to view the existing album folder it will show all the tracks in order of tracks alphabetical instead of file alphabetical. Then if you pick one, with shuffle turned off, it will go to the next track when finished.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Vaughan_Davies:
That's interesting. I'll give it a try, if it works then I think Media Monkey will do the hard work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JVogler:
Is there a way to stop S2P from creating files in every single folder? It took me a while to figure out what was going on here, but this is the problem:

The program I use to download and listen to podcasts automatically keeps a certain number of 'new' podcasts...like say the 3 most recent files and deletes the 4th every time it downloads a new one. I didn't even listen to any podcasts with S2P, but since they were in my music directory I guess S2P added files to each folder. So my podcast program saw 3 files with newer dates on them and deleted all of my podcasts...I'm talking about every single one! So when I go to listen to them they are all gone if I've ran S2P in between...and I'm left with just a few data files from S2P in each of my folders. Is this a malfunction of something...or is this the way it is supposed to work. I'm not talking about just one file per folder, I'm getting like 3-4 in them all.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] shlomiassaf:
Windows CE?

Hi

Can I install this program on WinCE 6.0?

There are a lot of GPS`s working on WinCE and it will be a great feature for them.

Is there a way to do so? I have windows embedded CE 6.0
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] A_C:
Obviously, it's a problem of your podcast program. A simple fix is when your program is looking for updated file, ignores .TAG files.

You could try & let us know the result.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] A_C:
It's fixed & released. Please update it to v1.4 via Marketplace.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Angeliss:
U rock!!!!!!!! This is so cool. I so love this!!!!!!!!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] d1k_is:
v1.4 is awesome, love your work.

Only problem I'm having though is all the songs seem to be from The Beatles White Album (I'm guessing it was the 1st song it picked up going through the library folder alphabetically was a Song off that album) and the Pictures are all the same as well... Am I doing something wrong here?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ElleyWelly:
///..Does it work for my HTC HD2!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] A_C:
Please refer to the FAQ.

Why not?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Vaughan_Davies:
Hi A_C

I just updated to v1.4, and I got new high capacity mem card for my phone at the same time - I have 375 albums, about 4,700 tracks, so quite a large library.

The album cover pictures in album browse is very unreliable. Sometimes I do see a few covers, but mainly no art is shown. Then if I browse away from an album where the cover is shown, when I come back it has disappeared again.

Obviously I would like to see all the album art in the browse if possible. Any ideas?

Thanks

Vaughan
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] A_C:
What's your device? I guess maybe it's too busy when loading the album arts. Suggest you try to pause the music playback & turn off "High Display Frame Rate".
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Vaughan_Davies:
Its a Samsung B7510 Omnia Pro with WM6.5. I'll try what you suggested and get back to you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Vaughan_Davies:
Thanks A_C that has done the trick.

Great application by the way. The best I've found so far.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bzb416:
Helps on AVRCP features

HI there,

My phone is Acer S200 neotouch with bluetooth headset Philips SHB 7100. I can't seems to get AVRCP feature to work. I did changed the setting to overwrite WMP remote, but only the volume button on the Philips headset works, NOT the forward/reverse and play/pause button. Any suggestion is greatly appreciated.

K
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] A_C:
Please refer to the FAQ.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] runningdap:
hey, im using s2p on hd2 with energy rom. while a song is playing, if i press the sleep button the music will stop and the program will actually shut down (checked the task manager). actually the application will shut down if i try to minimise it (press the home button) so i cant listen to music while doing other stuff. i have checked the power tweak and still nothing (also done soft reset after turning it on).

any ideas?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dwmackay:
Remaining time

Greetings, I purchased this great program for the WM Marketplace. The latest version works great for me. Scrolling is just like it should be, everything is quick and simple.

Is there a way to have a progress bar for the playing song? the slider seems to be tied to volume.

Thanks.

Doug M.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] josesandoval:
album covers on 1.4

I also found that the the album cover pictures in album browse is very unreliable. Sometimes I do see a few covers, but mainly no art is shown. Then if I browse away from an album where the cover is shown, when I come back it has disappeared again. Sometimes after a very long time i'll get the all album covers but when i exit s2p and return gone again.

I have HTC HD2. I checked your earlier suggestions but did not work for me.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hugotitan:
Album Picture

The new method in v1.4 for the album picture is not good. If I scoll the album list the picture will be loaded new. If scroll quickly, all picture are disappeared.

Use HTC Touch HD with wm6.1.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bzb416:
I did read the FAQ section, but hoping my phone was not one of those. Well back to the BORING and ANNOYING library structures WMP (which the AVRCP works flawlessly). I guess I am going to have to give up searching for an alternative to WMP with working AVRCP.

K
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jsisson:
Love s2p, used beta for a couple of years and bought as soon as it was on Marketplace but I also have AVRCP problem. Would be really nice if that would work. I have TouchPro 2 and from searching looks like a fairly common problem with HTC devices. Tried T-Back cab and didn't help. There must be a way to make it work as from reading threads there are a couple of players that have figured out how to do it.

Anyway, still love the program but AVRCP (on HTC) would sure be a welcome enhancement.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gadgetuk437:
Long-press the album picture.

Double-tapping the album will bring up the playlist.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ayekhine:
Need Help

Hi guys,

I just wondering anyone encounter the problem like mine. Although I can see all my musics files on the songs tag, I can't see anything at all in Artists and Albums tags. I am able to see albums and artists with other softwares. :( I am using version 1.4.

Thanks you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] A_C:
Which version have you installed?

If you've bought via Marketplace, please send an email to s2p at ac-s2 dot com to follow up.

Unfortunately, I only have a HTC Diamond & HD2 that both work fine.

Please refer to the FAQ.