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[HD2 General] twisted-pixel:
I have an order with expansys too, and I'm waiting for them to get back to me with a question.

you get £30 worth of vouchers with the HD2. If you read the Ts&Cs, you only get these once you've received the phone, and you have to allow 30 days for delivery.

so, if the phone comes out (as expected) on 11th of November, you can expect to get it 13th, 30 days after this is 13th december. so you get two weeks to spend the vouchers as they are only valid until 31st December!!

so, if the phone availability date should slip, you might end up receiving vouchers that are already out of date when you get them...what a con!!
[HD2 General] vinokirk:
Anybody wish they had a Leo with a keyboard?

Check out the Toshiba K01:

http://www.wmexperts.com/toshiba-k01-k02-and-l01-appear
[HD2 General] audscott:
Lots of folk are still waiting on the TG01.....based on that fiasco, I'd say good luck with any future Toshiba phones.
[HD2 General] bemymonkey:
I thought the TG01 was readily available...? I've been holding off on getting it only because the Leo will have XDA-Developers support :)
[HD2 General] kersh:
mmmmmm i see the vouchers promotion, but I didnt know the valid date of 31st.

If they say something to you it will be great if you can say to us
[HD2 General] trap:
Where did you find it?
[HD2 General] Noam23:
I think your worry for nothing.

In the Cnet video (2:35 minutes from the start) they show the Digital Compass app. In the video, the top-right corner of the compass screen says "GPS locating", which means the device does *not* have a GPS lock (which is logical, since the interview is not done in the open), but nevertheless, the compass still moves and stops at ~107 East. This means that you do not need to have GPS active for the compass to work.

It is indeed interesting why the Compass app asks for the GPS to begin with... I can think of two options:

1. Maybe the Compass is not very accurate, and hence asks for a validation from the GPS, whrere possible.

2. Maybe the need for GPS is somehow connected to the "Set Destination" button that can be seen at the bottom of the screen. Maybe this app allow you to set a certain destination (like where you parked your car), using GPS coordinates (hence the need for GPS), and then when you want to go back to that destination, it uses the GPS to locate your position, and the compass to direct you to where you need to go (without the need for you to move at all). I'm using such software currently on my Touch HD (called GpsSpot) that does not use a compass, and when I want to go back to a certain destination, I must move first in order for the software to know where I'm heading, and it is pretty annoying.
[HD2 General] loomx:
I called o2 and they said that it will be avalible on the 19th
[HD2 General] Noam23:
Yep, it seems I was dead on with option #2 of why the compass app requires GPS.

http://209.85.135.132/search?q=cach...+htc+hd2+"set+destination"&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk
[HD2 General] Teneka_Khan:
Speakerphone and call quality

Hi,

Not sure if anyone can tell me but how good is the speakerphone and call quality on the HD2 - has anyone heard anything. My dilemma is I have had WinMo phones for years but was going to try an Iphone because WinMo is sooo old - until I saw the HD2. Now I am not sure what to do and one thing I know that is not so good on the iPhone is call quality and speakerphone - and those are biggies for me. So if anyone can help me persuad myself not to go to Iphone (I love the games ability - sad isn't it) I would be most grateful
[HD2 General] firiel:
OK So it seems pretty descent, but what about video playback? Will there be issues there again? Will it have any video drivers installed or we will have issues like the ones we HAVE with all previous devices. (Diamond, cruise, tytnII, pro ... etc etc)
[HD2 General] InTheRough:
I'd be extra happy if it allowed multiple waypoints!
[HD2 General] trap:
available for dispatch or for pre-order?
[HD2 General] digimaz:
A blurry HD2 vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wzgV5NDrxs
[HD2 General] Super Chimp:
If you follow that link I posted further up thread I think the guy there posted up a video taken by a prototype HD 2?
[HD2 General] Noam23:
Can anyone answer the following question about the new Manila of the HD2/Leo:

At the Calendar tab, can you see (and add) only appointments, or is it possible to see (and add) tasks ???

Thanks to anyone who knows the answer.
[HD2 General] Noam23:
According to the following video you can't see tasks on the calender tab:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igRAl0swRsI&feature=relatedv

I don't understand, people in HTC believe we don't have a reason to see our tasks at all ?, how is it possible that such an advanced device like the HD2 doesn't have such a basic and important feature ?, idiots...
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
Jesus Phone legacy. Steve Jobs doesn't believe in tasks, others follow.
[HD2 General] InfernokingS:
Video

new video, digital compass working and changing, and i think a really good movie taken with the hd2 that's being watched on the device

http://vimeo.com/6970304?hd=1
[HD2 General] IceEyz:
Just wanted to post that one, it's a great movie from pda.pl

It seems it's recording at least VGA at 25fps, but unfortunately with an incredibly slow shutter speed..
[HD2 General] mtbmtbmtb:
Anyone know what the reasoning behind having the home and back button together is?
[HD2 General] Noam23:
What is this crap "doesn't believe" ???

If I have something I want to do and I want my phone help me remember it, I must put it as an appointment ?, this is idiotic !!!

If I want to remember to buy milk today, I need to create an appointment with milk and set it for a certain hour in the day ???
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
True faith needs not look smart. If Steve Jobs thinks you don't need tasks it means you don't need them. That's how life is. I personally agree with your assessment of how well-advised this decision is, but I'm not influential enough to change it.
[HD2 General] jdlorinser:
Nice. Thanks for the new vid.
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
Sheer breathtaking beauty of the coupled buttons, I reckon. Another hypothesis: these are HTC's "proprietary" buttons, so you won't mistake them for those dull standard ones.
[HD2 General] Noam23:
I think they learned the lesson from the Touch HD, where the symmetric layout of the keys made it harder to press without looking.
[HD2 General] why_999:
lol....:D:D:D
[HD2 General] milka:
Well, I just preordered it from handtec in the UK. I'm in Australia, did the same thing 11 months ago for the Touch HD.

Funny thing is, the Touch HD cost me $1050AUD. The HD2 has just cost me approximately $880AUD. Gotta love a strong currency exchange!

Damn... this waiting game is really going to suck!
[HD2 General] Firann:
TBH i read it on www.coolsmartphone.com
[HD2 General] d_train:
Wow - I never thought of doing this - so you have paid for it in full with them? Does it take about a week to ship over?

How is the warranty handled being that it purchased overseas?

off to the handtec website for a look :)

DT
[HD2 General] Sylpheed:
Yes i'm curious about the warranty too.
[HD2 General] MNX1024:
I know this may sound stupid, but what annoys me the most about this phone is that they don't have a dedicated camera button. I take a lot of pictures with my phone, and frequently too. Now, before I go along, please don't bash me about this or start lecturing me about gettomg a standalone point and shoot or a DSLR camera.

Anyway, like everyone else, I would really like to know the specification for video recording. I especially would like to know the quality, so it would be nice if someone can take a video with the HD2 and upload the original video file to a file sharing site like megaupload so we can download and view it ourselves. It would be nice if they can do the same for taking pictures too.
[HD2 General] Canterbury:
me three...

if the phones not expensive enough -

Car Kit

(insert pound symbol here)66
[HD2 General] Sylpheed:
geezz,, that's way too expensive.. i think i can survive with a normal car kit..
[HD2 General] motlking:
that car kit doesn't look like the official cradle pictured on the HTC HD2 website. Anyone got details of that one?
[HD2 General] skr_xd:
The new link is also from OFFICIAL HTC accessory site only.
[HD2 General] Cinner:
I want to know too. What is video recording qualily like? I'm not expecting it to be good, to be honest. The VGA recording of my Xperia X1 (build by HTC and running TouchFlow) is pure garbage (the compression is horrible). And we can forget about that 720p recording rumor someone apparantly is spreading. Won't happen (this would be a big selling point so HTC would be advertising it if it was present).

EDIT: took a look at that http://vimeo.com/6970304?hd=1 video. The video taken with the HD2 at 3 minutes looks pretty good actually, from what you can tell by looking at a recording of a recording played back on the device at least... :-/
[HD2 General] hsvchriis:
I wish i used your version of the AUD. Cost to my calculations is $940AUD plus postage.
[HD2 General] milka:
G'day d_train!

Yep, paid the amount in full with them via a google checkout.

I did the exact same thing for the Touch HD back in november of last year. bought it from handtec because i caught wind of the fact that Tel$tra were getting an exclusive and knew there'd be fair delays with them producing a tel$tra-ified rom, and that it wouldn't be cheap!

My Touch HD actually has 2 years of warranty through handtec as opposed to the 1 year in Aus. I had to return it pretty much immediately as i got a unit that speaker died on pretty much straight away, so there was an extra $60AUD to send it back registered and insured, but i still ended up only paying $1050 for the Touch HD.

I can definately recommend handtec to anyone as they were good with the Touch HD and I'm hoping they'll be the same with the HD2. Now I just need it to be November already!

There's actually quite a few people on whirlpool.net.au who have done the same thing already. Have a peek.

Cheers,

milka
[HD2 General] Canterbury:
you do realise you dont pay VAT???
[HD2 General] 10332007:
Wish I could import, but I need 3g to much. Cannot wait for it to come.
[HD2 General] dugald5:
I would say that with the newer generation of windows mobile phones having better GPUs that there will be better games for WM on the way. I had a Dell Axim x51v at one point and it had some decent 3D games on it. They don't seem to run properly on other PDAs etc but hopefully there are some decent games in production for newer phones.
[HD2 General] mr_Ray:
I suspect that is the main purpose of MS publishing the WM7 minimum specs, to give developers a solid baseline for developing WM7 apps and games.

With WM6.5 and before, the platform's flexibility while being a great bonus was also a major handicap - as a developer you can't count on any (reasonable) minimum CPU, memory, screen res, or other hardware present (3D graphics, G-sensor, camera, etc)

Hopefully with a very solid minimum spec, WM7 will give us the best of both worlds. And HD2 owners get in on the ground floor. I suspect MS and HTC worked together on this one to give a proper development platform for WM7 ahead of release.
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
I am happy that it can apparently run Xtrakt. ;)
[HD2 General] polstein:
Volume Rocker?

I see *something* on the left side of the unit that could be part of the battery release, but could also be a volume rocker.

Can anyone confirm if it is a volume rocker on the left side or not? If it is, I'm hoping that the hack (that I saw elsewhere) works to allow you to change it into d-pad up & down!

(In my case for page up & page down in reading ebooks)

TIA, could not find in thread anywhere.
[HD2 General] bugsy:
Not sure about battery release, but volume rocker is definitely on the left side of the device. You can see this on some of the pictures and video reviews.
[HD2 General] owz206:
Just spoke to someone from O2 this morning and was told that the HD2 wont be available until the beginning of November as they are waiting on the final rom build. :(
[HD2 General] polstein:
Thanks bugsy! While not my most important thing for a phone, it is by far the thing I do *most* on it (book reading). Especially at night with 1 hand. Hopefully, I'll be able to use volume down as page down - now I just need to go find that link.

Actually, I searched for it now for anyone reading this - it's called VolDpad, and the link is: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=552947

Looks like it was originally made for the Touch HD, so should work (hopefully) on the HD2.

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Now, if I could just know for certain if the oversees models that looks like the right frequencies for AT&T USA would work, or if I have to wait till Q1 2010...
[HD2 General] bemymonkey:
Thanks for the link/idea. Does anyone know if MS Reader works OK on the WVGA screen?
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
There are book readers that use tap zones instead of hardware buttons for changing pages, this is way more convenient. The weird thing though is that the best in class (Haali Reader and AlReader) have only Russian interfaces, at least I've never seen them translated. There's a program called Mobipocket Reader which has English interface and one tap zone - i.e. you can move forward, but not back.
[HD2 General] balf:
Looks like I'll be moving to O2 at the end of my contract. Orange probably wasted their phone budget on the eyephone.

http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news5150.html
[HD2 General] chris10230:
I was starting to think that October was a little bit early esp the 19th. I think that mid-end November we will see this up for sale and in stock...

Only one problem with this i want it now!! and i am pessimistic, least when it comes to o2 release dates...
[HD2 General] polstein:
Not to get too much off topic, I do use Mobipocket. If you tap on the right side, it's page forward & left side is page back. I'm not aware of a 'tap anywhere to move forward'.

But I also often read 1 handed, usually with my left hand. So holding the HD2 & clicking on the right side of the screen would be out. But the rocker would work pretty well, especially if it landed where my thumb usually is.
[HD2 General] grandpanda:
Stylus with HD2?

If you look at this video, at 28" it's showing a typical stylus controlling the screen. Normally the stylus for capacitive screen is pretty thick. This one looks exactly like ones for resistance screen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ScBzqXptLI

If this is true, it's actually a good news for users taking notes on their PDA phone.
[HD2 General] audscott:
The MS reader, ereader and Mobiocket all work fine on my HD....I can't imagine those (and more) wouldn't also on the HD2.
[HD2 General] owz206:
I'll think you'll find thats a hd2 rom running on the original touch hd.
[HD2 General] kenyloveg:
haali is been English for a long long time

http://haali.cs.msu.ru/pocketpc/
[HD2 General] grandpanda:
I think you are right... That seems to be the original HD.

A little bit googling points to this though:

http://www.techtickerblog.com/2009/...itive-stylus-to-give-resistive-like-accuracy/

http://techtickerblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/htc-capacitive-stylus-patent.jpg

Hope HTC can bring this for capacitive screens.
[HD2 General] ToddeSwe:
What navigation software is it?

What nav soft is showing on HTC's HD2 homepage?

Looks awsome :)
[HD2 General] hx4700 user:
And there are two £15 vouchers that must be used for different things, and you cannot buy memory with them! For those reasons I bought from Clove.
[HD2 General] vido.ardes:
CoPilot I think. As far as I am aware, the HD2 comes with a free trial but you ahve to buy it (it's not that expensive)
[HD2 General] digimaz:
I just realized that there is no power button. So the end key will be acting as the power button?
[HD2 General] chris10230:
Yep thats what i can gather on it. tbh it will be a little better as the power button is a little archaic now and its lends towards android which is how they have the power button. Also so many other makes have done away with dedicated power button and put it on the end call button. Natural evolution i say.

If you watch carefully in some vids you can see it being used as it as well.
[HD2 General] owz206:
Looks like O2 might start selling it on the 19th of October after all.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology/2009/10/09/htc-hd2-release-date-revealed-115875-21735286/
[HD2 General] Teneka_Khan:
HD2 or Iphone.

You know what - I think I've made my mind up. I've been messed around by O2 so much about the Iphone in the last week next they will be asking for a kidney as part ex for one soon, that I think I will go for the HD2. Also I would miss XDA-Developers too much - I love to hack!
[HD2 General] Teneka_Khan:
P.S. Anyone found a full review yet?
[HD2 General] Madcypher:
Wroter pda.pl

Was told the video recording capabilities was 640x480, see the link again with my question posted and answered. Not 100%, but more reliable than anything else I've seen.

My TP2 auto scales 640x480 content to fill the entire widescreen, that's what was going on in that video also.

Cyph
[HD2 General] mojohio:
Go to:

http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/htc-hd2-hands-on-and-impressions-on-video

Play the 2nd video on this page.

Pause it at :51 seconds.

Look at the top contact on the screen.

Does this mean anything for the US?
[HD2 General] DJ_Evil:
I believe on a couple of sites it has already been announced that there would be a US version at the beginning of the new year :)
[HD2 General] D-MAN666:
It's actually a Touch HD with HD2 ROM. Alas! :D
[HD2 General] gpietron:
other/custom UI

Would it be a problem to change UI, f.e. to Mobile Shell with mskip's widgets? Some HTC official mentioned might not be easy, any views?
[HD2 General] mojohio:
I've read the news that the CEO of HTC announced a "planned" US version to be arriving in 1Q 2010. I was referring to the fact that this might be a clue as to which carrier the bands will support.
[HD2 General] DJ_Evil:
Ah right, fair do's :)

I'm just waiting for it on o2 in the uk, my upgrade is the end of this month, perfect timing :)

Does anyone know if there will be some kind of augmented reality apps created for this handset? Do they require just a compass+camera?
[HD2 General] mojohio:
Lucky you DJ. I was anxious to upgrade to the TP2 released by AT&T yesterday. My contract had expired last May,and this is what I've been holding out for. But then, following the publicity of the HD2, I'm tyring to have the will power to hold out for another 3-5 months to have this reach the states. It would be nice if it comes to AT&T first, but whoever gets it first, that's where I'm headed.
[HD2 General] DJ_Evil:
I'm impressed dude, I totally couldn't do it, will be bad enough waiting till my contract ends, got a touch pro at the moment that I like so its not all bad I guess :)

Hoping some more people release some multi touch apps :D
[HD2 General] bugsy:
It's certainly possible, but I would also guess that many of the HTC employees have devices on different carriers and the carrier contacts for support, accessories etc. just get synced to their exchange account and never deleted......i just want to see an unlocked version with 850MHz 3G support and I'll be all over it :)
[HD2 General] ilordvader:
Please do let me know I will be next to order after you :)

Thanks
[HD2 General] ilordvader:
Im in the same boat like you

what i think of doing is getting the TP2

& sell it after the HD2 is out

I will be paying full price for HD2

but im sure i can get $100 more for my TP2

when i sell it ;)
[HD2 General] ilordvader:
Salam

see Video HTC HD2 – Windows Mobile 6.5 at its best

you wont find this on Youtube
[HD2 General] Ovrclck:
Can't wait!!! :D
[HD2 General] why_999:
Posted twice... sorry
[HD2 General] why_999:
With WM6.5 ROM on the leo, the internet tab uses PIE only or will we have a choice of which browser to use?? someone thats using a Leo ROM wish to shine some light on it.

Cheers:D
[HD2 General] Ovrclck:
You can load whatever browser you want and make it default.
[HD2 General] adendum:
Afaik, opera is the default browser on the internet tab,as usual, and it takes advantage of the multi-touch
[HD2 General] naa77:
"decent"........try, "kick arse". I woulda liked to use a stylus as well, but hey thems the breaks, heaps of grunt under the bonet though, I mess around with music apps although there not 800*400, (audiobox), there are tiny squares that I can only get with a stylus....., so I can see this being a pain in the arse, unless developers are going to design more finger friendly apps
[HD2 General] d_train:
Thanks for that - just ordered mine - $868AUD including freight :) - now BRING ON NOVEMBER :D

I contacted them and they did say that the wty would be a return to them, but since I have never had an issue with my Nike, I guess I can risk it :)

DT
[HD2 General] Eraser85:
Just sold my Blackstone.. November can't come soon enough!
[HD2 General] an123:
awesome specs! cant wait for the device to launch
[HD2 General] bemymonkey:
Does Mobipocket read .lit files?
[HD2 General] digimaz:
Thank you so much B3ler3fonte for those pictures. You really make me wish I had your kind of cool job. I have a question if you dont mind. Is the back completely made of metal or plastic? What about the other parts of the phone? Thank you so much!!
[HD2 General] owz206:
Thanks very much for all the info and pics B3ler3fonte. That's all i need is a release date and i'm snapping up one of them beauties.

One more question, how long does the camera app take to focus, the touch hd was a bit slow for me, and whats the maximum video capture resolution.

Okay, that's two questions :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] barbapappa_86:
A question, B3ler3fonte if you dont mind.. How is the alaround build quality? I think my HD is a bit plastic and its most the battery cover thats make it feel cheap. How is the Leo? Is it more robust than the HD?
[HD2 General] elyl:
AFAIK no HTC WM phone has a digital compass to date. Why would they have developed an application to test something which does not yet exist? Perhaps they developed the app for the Leo, and this has been used as a basis for the leaked 6.5 ROM you used?

Perhaps B3ler3fonte could confirm if he sees anything exciting when he runs the app on the Leo...!
[HD2 General] PoisonWolf:
chavon,

Unfortunately, multi-touch resistive is years away (I'll throw a ballpark figure of 2 ~ 4 years) before it reaches us consumer level. It's just cheaper to use capacitive screens right now.

What I'm rather stunned about the phone though is that it has that resolution. I believe I've read somewhere that capacitive screens have a lower max resolution than that of resistive screens.

Cheers.
[HD2 General] devdarshan:
Have you tried using GPS fuctionality with any of the navigation APPS? Does this have any kind of lagging in tomtom or any other navigation apps like the earlier HD?

I hope you can test this ! important functionality.

loooooooks good! am definitely getting one myself - now where is my damn piggy bank gone !!!!!