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[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] lucky151:
I like the digital world .

Since the last year I met my first windows mobile phone : htc tornado. I have been attaracted by the smart device. Using it, I can surf the wap more freely and I can do a lot of things with it. I regard it as a little computers.

Having used the tornado half of a year, I turned my phone into pocket pc, the first phone is the classical htc herms. But I think it is too thick and too heavy, so I turned to htc elf in a month. Aha, and in about half of a year, I got my diamond. I think diamond is nearly a perfect phone, except for its low battery and low ringtones. But I can accept it. I am a college student , I do not have much money for me to change my phone . I have the spirit to do the research for the smart device.

I have been a windows mobile fans since I met it. So I show the technology to my friends ,and more and more friends join in the windows mobile. They felt it was amazing just like me.

Since I Like the windows os so much, I begin hate the other os,such as symbain, I think it is a simple os and the hard device is poor and has little fun to search. Maybe I have been extremed, but I really do not like it.

But the windows os still have the disadvantages. As we know, the 65536 colors limit the screen. The other os have supported the higher colors many years ago. Though the windows os have the good cpu or higer ram, but the speed can hardly make the users satisfied. The biggest shortcomings is that the windows os are not easy to use unless you have much time to do research for it. I think it is really a big problem. Not everybody have much time to update the os or search how I can use it as a normal phone. But we have seen the change of the windows mobile. We have seen the new UI like touchflo3d,spbmobile shell. I think the Microsoft and the producers still have the ability to change the User Experience.

Some guys may be hard to understand my English, because English is not my mother language. I am a Chinese, aha! Thanks for everybody come here to see my first article in the forum. Er...I have a wish that guys may like htc, you may know htc is from taiwan. And taiwan is a provience of China. ha! It is too far away from the topic...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] vishalkishnani:
What is the objective to open this thread??
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] lucky151:
just talk ,friends.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] pedmond:
Welcome! Enjoy your Diamond and this forum :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Reuental:
Hey,welcome, i am also fresh to WM, and come from China.

In my opinion, I don't think WM is the best OS, you have to reset your phone maybe once a week. I like this so called Diamond thing, although I am not interested in upgrading my phone. I like the original ROM. still try finding some useful softwares.

Anyway enjoy your Diamond
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Limlin:
Hahaha, welcome and I'm newbie too. Diamond is really top device! Although wm is not the best os it fits me most and I love my diamond!

Hope you can have a fun here.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blakestimac:
I know its not much of a big deal, but is there a way to get the old flip clock back? The one that actually flips on the new ROM? I know its not helpful with speed, but it is nice. Is there a way, and if so would it just slow down this entire new update? Couldn't imagine it could do too Much harm, but I guess thats why I'm asking. Thank you.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] xxxlux:
Red LED lits continuously. No other signs of life. Tested battery from my device with onother Wizard and all works good (battery is full). Tryed soft and hard reset, nothing.

Is there any other solution than buy a new device.

Thank you
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] dushuai:
Is it any new message and missing call on it?or check the battery charging function ,is it working ?

If all good,maybe upgrade is the way.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] xxxlux:
Blank screen...Battery is ok
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] miskoo:
Kaiser

Hi, I've the same problem on my Kaiser. Yesterday evening I put it charging and this morning phone is dead, only red LED while phone is on the charger.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] edoftech:
firstly how rubbish is the htc e-club it just seems to be for ringtones

secondly, does anyone know where the links to download the official roms from their websites has gone???

tried on two different connections and two different browsers, and pc and can't find the actually link
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] edoftech:
wait up

i have found it, instead of selecting the touch diamond 2 as my device

i just scrolled down the list and selected it from there which did work
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Tom Lenferink:
http://www.htc.com/nl/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=249&act=sd&cat=all

http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=249&cat=2&dl_id=613
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Bothkill:
And how do you start the download? (the Europe section)

Cause I cannot.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Tom Lenferink:
Click on: http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=249&cat=2&dl_id=613

Scroll down to:

And follow these three steps:

1. Serial Number: Enter your devices Serial Number Where do I find the Product S/N?

2. Please select the file most suitable for your device : Select the ROM version --Please Select--

3. Please select a location closest to you: Select a download location --Please Select--

How hard can it be?

If you do not have screenshot above on the website than it must be because you are entering the HTC site from somewhere else than i do.

Goodluck!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Bothkill:
The problem is that when I enter the S/N it says this Upgrade is not for my phone.

The whole idea is that I cannot get the official ROM from the official website.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] edoftech:
sernial number

i don't have anywhere to post the software i downloaded

however i have a gerneric phone from the uk

so if you want the software use this as your serial number

HR95YL104481

that should allow you to download the latest version of 6.1 and 6.5 when it becomes released
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] opensea:
wow. Thank you. :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Bothkill:
It's really strange.

I tried to download using this S/N from the UK page and I got the message:

"The serial number you’ve provided appears to be invalid. Please try again."
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] akito:
You can't use the serial number if you don't have a HTC-branded device. Seeing that you're on Vodafone, I suppose you have a Vodafone-branded device. Vodafone has to deliver you a ROM. Even if you manage to download an official HTC-rom, you won't be able to install it (at least: not in the 'usual' way).
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] opensea:
Odd. I downloaded the rom with edoftech's serial number but not tried. I'm waiting for the official 6.5 rom.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Bothkill:
What country was selected when you managed to download?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] opensea:
Central europe
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cool_koo:
Hi I'm currently using CyanogenMod 4.04 rom. I'm wondering how to change the amount of columns/rows in Advanced launcher because 5 columns seems too squished. I've searched everywhere on these forums but I can't figure it out. Any help would be appreciated.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Reverend Gridlock:
You can only change the amount of screens by hitting menu and more than extended menus,

Ha david, I beat you to it and time for bed

But see I answered a ? Than wasn't the normal stupid one
[HTC Excalibur] Eliphas:
Hey I am new to the forum I learn quickly though I recently just got into windows mobile and so far am loving it I am running a 3VO series ROM from ookba and its great!

I have some questions regarding the registry settings such as windows start up values and working with the registry to see what potential it has someone get back to me on that asap!

OMAP!

can anyone help with omapclock and omapclockgui I'm familiar but I don't quite understand!

Also some battery life info, to me it seems seeking service drains battery the most, along with opening and running programs.

Feel free to put in any input to help me out I really want to gain knowledge on my device.

-eliphas
[HTC Excalibur] Eliphas:
my today screen

happy modifying!
[HTC Excalibur] stylez:
Welcome,

You will find pretty much everything you want need to know by reading the wiki, sticky & using the search ;)

No fast way to do it.....

Re: Omap pretty sure been covered in 3vo thread and recently.

Good Luck :)
[HTC Excalibur] Eliphas:
yea man I've learned alot throughout the forums already this site contains so much knowledge! Props to those who contribute.

does anyone have a wifi driver for wm6.5 my driver didn't install on flash
[HTC Excalibur] stylez:
No the drivers are in the ROM, if you have an issue then the best place to post is in the thread of ROM, hard-reset before hand an atleat try and flash again as there are such things as bad flash's.

Also good to read fix's

"3VO 2.50 WiFi Patch.cab" is only for those experiencing trouble with WiFi powering on. No need to run patch if you are not experiencing WiFi power on issues.
[HTC Excalibur] aznwannabe358:
welcome aboard. anything and everything you wanna know about the dash is here on xda. plus this site is filled with highly knowledgable and helpful ppl.
[HTC Excalibur] Eliphas:
yea that's the problem my wifi wont turn on

i think it I need the cab file
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic General] genius_y:
can anyone give me alternate link to download this hotfix?

Hot Fix for resolving the prolonged ring response issue in HTC Touch Viva

i couldn't download from htc.com, or i should say i couldn't find the download link from the website. Need it in urgent.

thank you, any help is very appreciated.
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic General] TheRem:
extract and install from your device.
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic General] genius_y:
tried, but not working.

thanks anyway.
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic General] genius_y:
i contacted htc customer care and the website is fixed now. i am able to download from the website now.

thanks anyway for all the help.:)
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic General] TheRem:
what do you mean it's not working?

it's the SAME file from HTC website... this one is just zipped for attachment. :mad:
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic General] malthane:
Working perfectly in HTC TOUCH VIVA.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] codykemper:
Man here in California I paid over $430 after tax and fees. Verizon got theres a month later and are getting a huge savings. Does anyone think Sprint or T-mobile will show there valid faithful customers any type of love with a extra rebate or credits or just a big F U. Everytime I call customer service and they say thank you for being a valid t-mobile customer since 2004 I'm just gonna call them liars because they don't value this customer:(

Whats everyone's thought is it fair should we get something or Im I just pissed that Verizon just got one over on TM and Sprint.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] f1ip:
of course im pissed!!!..:mad:

lol.. not really.

of course VZ is cheaper since its missing the $150 FM radio... duhh.. :cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ca3sar:
Got mine for 99 shipped. Plus cali has bs taxes.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] madman1520:
got mine for free......
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] |Blitzkrieg|:
I got mine for $150 :shrug:

www.wmdeals.com
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sleonard:
Me too! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] khaytsus:
Nah, it's probably there, just Verizon has to touch everything with their grubby functionality-stealing paws. Just like they probably neutered bluetooth, GPS, who knows what.. Custom ROM to the rescue ;-)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] kable:
149.99 for mine with free activation here..

No way I would have paid 349.00 for it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] takeda240:
most definately.. and remiding us that there are plenty of sub 300 dollar deals now does not help! lol its really unfortunate .. i guess ill never make a decent phone purchase ...i would say this is worth 175-225 on contract i mean same crap ass processor with same old issues slightly improved and still no audio jack (extusb is terrible) and i believe verizon gets 3.5mm right? but im giving it the benefit of the doubt .. still way better than my kaiser was except lack of hardware keys .. makes one handed work difficult sometimes ... its still very new and marketplace is coming!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] |Blitzkrieg|:
How perfectly timed...

http://www.wmexperts.com/comparing-htc-touch-pro-2s

T-Mobile Sprint Verizon
($549.99) ($599.99) ($489.99)
Phone's discounted price $349.99 $349.99 $199.99
Voice plan (basic) $29.99 $69.99* $49.99
-- Number of minutes 300 450* 450
Data plan price (unlimited) $24.99 Included $29.99
Text messages Included Included $5
-- Number of texts Unlimited Unlimited 250

Total cost over 2 years $1,669.51 $2,029.75 $2,239.51

(Sorry for the rough copy/paste on the table)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] D_monie3:
I'm pretty pissed too... Had no ideas about the deals, but either way, it doesn't matter now... But like the person above me posted, T-mobile service is much cheaper than the conniving Verizon... And T-Mobile does not put out nearly as many good phones as Verizon, so I will suck it up and be happy with my T-Mo TP2! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] madman1520:
paying £30 a month at the moment, 18month contract, got the phone for free, 700minutes, unlimited texts, unlimited internet...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] D_monie3:
Lucky you are...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] stanglifemike:
I'm not pissed about it at all. Then again I did only pay 99 for my Verizon TP2.....sorry, had to say it
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] frenchie746:
I paid full price for my TP2 due to the fact that I did not have an upgrade to use toward my new phone.

However I am on the Tmo 49.99 loyalty plan(unlimited minutes), and the 34.99 data plan.

So I pay around 90ish per month, so my yearly total is around $1080.

No other carrier can touch that price.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] hjubm2:
I find it so funny that people from the US complain about paying around $400 for the phone where as in Australia going through the only telco providing the phone its $1500 AUD & only available outright, which is around $1300 USD atm.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] reocej:
x2

HERE'S YOR 10 CHARACTERS!!!! ARE U HAPPY NOW!!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] goalweiser:
I definitely don't care. I got mine for $149 with no activation fee as well. T-mobile's loyalty plan is great isn't it???
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rorytmeadows:
I loved that T-mobile loyalty plan!

Plus VZN customers will get ripped off with the additional package for tethering, locked GPS etc etc. And when it breaks, they won't help you at all.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] deadwrong03:
the verizon touch pro 2 has gps unlocked and i use tethering on my vz phone without being charged. Tmobile doesnt have good coverage where im at and i got my vz touch pro 2 for $99 bucks while u guys have to pay almost 500
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] drawflex:
wow..... having a quick glance at the sums on the last page, it looks like you US lot have been shafted in comparison to here in the UK... £612 for phone and 900 mins per month for 18 months , unlimited texts and 500 meg per month . big diff eh ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DarkDvr:
What I'm pissed about is people from US not being able to spell "their". :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rohithathie:
this is ****ing expensive :| here in the Netherlands you pay maybe 700 euro's for 2 years
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] butler360:
I'm quite pleased, actually, since I'm on Verizon.

But you should be happy there's at least one carrier offering a decent price. Imagine if Verizon came in at $350 as well. Sprint and T-Mobile wouldn't even consider lowering their prices.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] NorskeDivision:
Depends on what you're doing. The US is somewhat larger/less dense than England, so right off the bat you're going to pay a lot more for nationwide coverage. Verizon gives 5gb Data which is more useful to me than extra minutes (never use more than 100 a month, I do use more than 500mb). Also 612 pounds for 18 months works out to 900 pounds for 24 months. That's $1,500 US.

So yeah, we pay more for cellphone service, but its a much bigger country.

That includes the phone? That's way cheaper then Germany, pretty surprising if that includes the phone and unlimited data.

No surprise there, Australia is to USA as USA is to Europe. To even cover a tenth of Australia you need to put up more cellphone towers than exist in all of the Netherlands.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] californiarailroader:
Not on the Verizon Touch Pro 2, or the Ozone, or any of the new smartphones and phones coming out from Verizon, they finally stopped it :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] californiarailroader:
WOW, how do they get away with charging so much on the TP2?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] high_council:
Blitzkrieg hits it on the head. I was hoping to get mine through Verizon without a data plan because of the wifi, but no dice. It's a must in order to get the phone for that price.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ville2000:
well not really being that, I called Sprint telesales and I spoke with someone that really didn't understand the concept of, their own website so I took control of the call and said It says It in writing it's a 150.00 instant rebate + my 150.00 upgrade discount + 100.00 MIR = 199.99, and she said oh your right and I thought I'm so in there, and she put in the order, and here she is for a whooping 199.99 free shipping no tax. (well she didn't even catch her own mistake, and cost sprint a 150.00 dollar oh well, they own me anyways.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pigphish:
promo code = Windows Mobile

ditto

(found on slickdeals.net)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] karandras24:
+1 Completely aggree with that.

You americans get proper screwed over.

I got the handset free and get 600 (any time any network) mins, unlimited texts, 500mb data per month all for £20pm making a total annual cost of £240.

Oh yeah and if i wanted up to 3gb data it'd add £5 per month or £60 pa making a total cost of £300 for the year. Or if i wanted up to 5gb data it'd add £15 pm or £180 pa making a toal cost of £420 pa.

Oh yeah and my vodafone handset has no features removed, just a fuggly theme pre installed.

Edit:

Oh yeah i have just read that vodafone uk will soon be doubling our connection speed from 7.2 mbps to 14.4 mbps
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] californiarailroader:
The Verizon phone is now going for $149, after a $100 instant online discount.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] schizo:
Hmm, let see my case just for comparison:

Operator Telkomsel Indonesia

Phone Unlocked Price = $850

Voice plan = N/A (my avg bills is $30 as medium-heavy user)

Data plan unlimited = $20 (capped at max speed 512kbps)

Total cost over 2years = $2050

Not very bad, i guess.... *relieved* =)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] californiarailroader:
The price on that list for the Verizon Touch Pro 2 needs to be changed to $149.99.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dkb218:
I'm not pissed at all. I did pay $449 for mine. However over the lenght of the contract, I'll come out cheaper on T-Mobile with more unlimited everything.

I would be pissed if I were on Verizon - even if they offered the phone free, I'd be pissed - same with Sprint.
[General Questions and Answers] Shooter92:
Hi,

I have a quite naive, ambicious and just theoretical question. HTC HD has a thermometer on CPU as probably most of todays PDAs. But, wouldn't be possible to count the temperature in the room(or wherever you are) due to the informations from this thermometer? :) Of course you would have to count a bit with the current performance of CPU(find out how much the CPU temperature affects data going out of the thermometer. But maybe after some mathematical operation it could work. I know it is very naive questin, but I just wanted to ask.

So thanks for the response :)
[General Questions and Answers] timmymarsh:
Nice idea, but cant see how this could work accurately as the variable (cpu/battery temp) various wildly depending on how heavily you are using it.

Be better (and more accurate) to rely on the weather app/msn weather widget for the external temperature.

Saying that, a developer might like the challenge:D
[General Questions and Answers] Rudegar:
the thermometer is build into the cpu chip itself

and cpu usage have a much bigger impact on the temp

then area temp does

more so when these devices don't have big air grills for air circulation

so doubt it would ever work well as a room temp measuring device
[General Questions and Answers] Shooter92:
I realize it would be complicated if not impossible :).. but it was just an idea so I put it here.
[General Questions and Answers] doktortelecom:
Actualy it was an application like that, it was for smartphones running wm2003, it wasn't so accurate.I was lookinking for something like this on the net but nothing found for pocket pc
[General Questions and Answers] Iceman692:
Theoretically, a program could measure the temperature of the device overtime, taking the cpu usage, battery drainage, etc. to determine an equation to use in calculating the only missing variable: the outside temp. The equation could mathematically deduce that based on a given temperature with given variables (cpu usage, battery heat based on drainage, etc.).

However, the program would reasonably need to be device specific. Otherwise, small changes in hardware would change the results dramatically. Of course, the program could determine that, as I mentioned above, but it would introduce an entirely new set of variables and would probably need to run for a given time to sample the device (at least a week). It still may not even be possible that way because the device would not be able to reach the maximums and minimums of each variable...still, math could theoretically fill in the gaps.

That being said, it still would not be very accurate because there is actually 2 blank variables. If the temperature surrounding the phone was static (the same all the time) then this would work. BUT since you will be changing air temps quite frequently, the air temp would not have time to affect the device. It would be a slow increase or decrease until it finally levels out. Its like taking water and putting it in a freezer. It won't freeze immediately, but it will freeze over the course of several hours. You can be outside in 90 degree weather for several hours then walk back inside to 70 degree air. Your phone would still calculate the air temp as some where around 90 for quite a while.

Does that make sense?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] zooster:
I like very much the look of Warhawk, at&t version of D2... I haven't find that housing on internet. Do you know anything about it?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Pitchb3nd:
You'll probably have to wait a couple of months after the release of the device to see housings appearing on ebay
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Diviner:
Can I ask why are you looking for the housing ? - according to pdadb, topaz and warhawk are not the same, not in dimensions and not in harware - so it would seem that topaz hardware won't fit in warhawk's housing.