yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 General] turt:
The pre-production unit used by B3ler3fonte was "USB host"-enabled (see page 8), but it hasn't been confirmed afterwards either by "his" official specs, or HTC's official specs.

But the device is definitely capable of this, so we can assume that with the right cable and maybe some development here on XDA, it will be possible to have USB-host on the HD2... :)
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
I think she's wrong.

See, for example: http://www.o2.co.uk/termsandconditions/tariffsandboltons
[HD2 General] Zhuk86:
hi guys,

i'm ready to pre-order one of these phones but just need to know one thing, will winmo 6.5 support voip/sip? this will be my first windows phone so just want to check :):)

thanks,

Zhuk
[HD2 General] br3nt:
it says VIA the phone... I dont see why they would be doing such a big deal out of it? so what if I use my laptop to browse (via the phone) or thru the phone - its still using the phone

and if its for private use (not setting up an AccesPoint) for others) cant see the harm in it?

Besides, how are they gonna know? all they see is a connection going out/in thru their network ? (easily "explained")

:confused::)
[HD2 General] X1-owner:
This is probably a very premature question, but what are the chances of some of the more standard USB devices could work without any special drivers? I mean things like bog standard keyboards and maybe generic USB memory sticks.
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
The issue is simply the amount of data you're likely to be sucking across a connection if you're using the Internet on a PC rather than on a phone.

Put it this way: O2 will charge you £15 a month for a mobile broadband connection that is capped at 3GB of data per month; so how much data do you think they are comfortable with you pulling over a connection that costs £7.50 a month or is even given away free as a promotion?

If you're simply browsing websites with it, then it's unlikely to be a problem; but if you're using it to download high-definition videos then you will very rapidly reach the point where O2 will insist on you upgrading to a formal mobile broadband connection. You may be able to get away with claiming that the wording is ambiguous as far as tethering is concerned (although it's clear to me that if you are explicitly banned from using your SIM card in a modem, then using your phone as a modem with the sim card in it will also be frowned upon); but even if you claim you didn't understand that tethering wasn't allowed, they'll still clobber you simply for excess data usage, downloading/streaming video, etc. if you're doing anything much other than web browsing and email.

Whether or not something is a crime, and whether or not you will get caught if you do it, are two separate questions. I'm simply pointing out that what you're suggesting is (probably) a breach of your contract.

O2 can, of course, tell what computer any given piece of data is going to or from - so they can easily detect if you are accessing a site that is well known for sucking up lots of data (e.g. iPlayer or Youtube or piratebay). They can (and do) also monitor how much data you are pulling across their network.
[HD2 General] mjordan79:
Guys, why don't you open a thread dedicated to O2 instead of discussing its license agreements here?
[HD2 General] XRAY MAN:
Small review but with arabic language :D :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YWhijK1O0U

ENJOY ;)
[HD2 General] owz206:
I notice he's got pich to zoom working on Igo in this video, wonder what other programmes it works on.
[HD2 General] itoYo:
nice post xray man!

i just confirmation of usb host and im sold!
[HD2 General] Wishmaster89:
I think that it probably will be available in all programs. If you look correctly it zooms on the whole program itself and not on the maps so it would seem that this is how HTC designed it to do so I'd suspect that it could it in every program unless it will be excluded similar to how we can disable auto-rotation.

I may be wrong but I don't think so :p
[HD2 General] t69broken:
Anyone confirm BS??

Look at this link and this price?

http://www.txtonlinestores.com/servlet/the-40/brand-new,Factory-Sealed-in/Detail

Sounds a bit like a Salmon Sandwich to me.
[HD2 General] ujkadusko:
Did anybody notice how quick is HD2 when it starts iGO8!At least 4 times quicker than my Touch HD...looks I will buy myself new toy:D
[HD2 General] hmota78:
Exactly what I noticed in the video :-) It takes about 2 seconds to launch, really really fast :D
[HD2 General] piquadrat:
But does the OS itself allow to render GUI in the higher resolution than the HD2's screen to the appropriate backbuffer? If no, that means that the quality of such a zoom will be inevitably inferior.
[HD2 General] Wishmaster89:
We will see. Snapdragon is powerful enough to handle something like that but I don't know...
[HD2 General] prank1:
Shukran jazeelan!

Translation: Thanks alot!
[HD2 General] Pantaloonie:
Well, it's time for a new toy... just ordered one from mobile phones direct at £35 per month on T-Mo, due for despatch on 11th november.

Poke me when the Leo gets it's own subforum...
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
Gee, it's the first time I see an HTC camera fast enough to actually be useful in real life conditions!
[HD2 General] ilordvader:
It has a UK no on the site

anyone in UK can confirm this Plz
[HD2 General] kersh:
+1 to that, but if you think that its a great utility, all the apps with old style antifinger that would be difficult to use with the capacitive screen will be useful with this
[HD2 General] yessirrom:
I have pre-ordered the HD2. I just picked up the Tilt2 a few days ago. I had the Fuze from last year and the original Tilt prior to that.

I will say that the Tilt2 is way better than the Fuze. I love the big screen, my reception is much better on AT&T. I missed the tilting screen from the original Tilt. I have been very impressed with the speakers on the Tilt2. Groove fish has been fantastic. I am really amazed at the quality of the sound.

That being said, has anyone heard the quality of the speaker on the HD2? I know this may seem a small consideration, but I have come to appreciate the pro2 sound.
[HD2 General] PowerupMobile:
For the latest pricing and availability on all the latest HTC HD2 deals please check here: http://www.powerupmobile.com/tariffs-2-684.htm.

Cheapest price found so far is from Insight at £486.43. Also we broke the news yesterday that the HTC HD2 is now on Amazon. It is more expensive at £549.99 but it's Amazon and you can claim an HTC Bluetooth headset if you pre-order which normally sells for about £50.
[HD2 General] TonyJ999:
It also has a UK address with a mobile number as a contact point. I think a "leave well alone" web site it you fancy hanging onto your money.. :D
[HD2 General] PowerupMobile:
Price seems to be in UK dollars too. I know the pound is getting trashed but they haven't replaced the currency yet.
[HD2 General] grandpanda:
Somebody reported that he handled a prototype HD2 for ATT-USA. It is scheduled for early 2010 release... I am trying to squeeze more info from him.

Just take it for what it's worth though.
[HD2 General] X1-owner:
Do you mean that it would be possible zoom in any application to make the UI elements bigger if necessary?
[HD2 General] Wishmaster89:
Yes, that's exactly what he means.
[HD2 General] X1-owner:
In what way do you mean it will be inferior (performance, rendering quality?), and why is it inevitably inferior?
[HD2 General] Wishmaster89:
He means that we will zoom on the 800x480 picture so it will be pixelated.
[HD2 General] Dark Fire:
We've seen that the zoom quality in HTC Album is pretty good, and there is a video around where the back button is pressed (I think) to get rid of a zoomed-in picture, and a very zoomed-in bottom bar (with a keyboard icon) is shown for a brief moment. Therefore it would appear that HTC Album is using the same zoom method...
[HD2 General] Wishmaster89:
Album is probably using different method to zoom on the picture itself which has higher resolution than the screen but probably when playing video the device will zoom not on the video itself but on the 'display'.
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
What I would be interested to know with regard to this zooming thing is whether application controls are usable when zoomed or it's just a screenshot image on top of the real form.
[HD2 General] cozmozs:
This topic should be moved to the new Leo section of XDA.
[HD2 General] Dark Fire:
Ah, good point. That's what I saw - they had zoomed in on a video. My memory is bad. lol.

It wouldn't be too difficult to adjust the input coordinates and re-screenshot every now and then so that you can still interact with software, if that's the method HTC is using...
[HD2 General] digimaz:
Anyone knows if the phone comes with a case?

I have information from a friend that the hd2 will be sold in singapore from today, october 24.
[HD2 General] HTC Touch Freak:
It's a lie. In that case I saw a phone review from the recent CTIA with a T-mobile SIM running in it. Therefore T-mobile will be getting it early 2010. The SIM that's in it during shows is usually what carrier it will be released on. Atleast released on first. Not like I care cause I only buy unlockied. Screw Carrier Branded Phones and trying to get me to sign a new contract with higher rates for voice and data. I like my $56/month Voice, 1500txt, and unlimited data.
[HD2 General] cturbos:
please keep us posted about hd2 release in singapore.

thanks:)
[HD2 General] digimaz:
Oh man...looks like it didnt came out today. My friend's dad has the phone since he has connections. I thought it might arrive today. The best hope would be to wait for next week.
[HD2 General] lucky 69:
has any one herd if they will be putting out a android version of this phone ! just wondering i will be getting one when they come to u.s. . no matte what they have on it .thanks :D
[HD2 General] galaxys:
There is a Dragon in the works...see this thread & links:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=573534
[HD2 General] srgudhka:
check it out...

just check this out.... hd2 beats acer neo touch... but still the rating for neo touch is more

http://www.geekwithlaptop.com/compare-mobile-phones/acer-neotouch-s200-htc-hd2-4204_4200
[HD2 General] manuelcalavera:
who cares about ratings ?

specially in a nonreliable website
[HD2 General] srgudhka:
u rite bro.... they shd treat such cool fones wit some respect....
[HD2 General] addicus:
I'm fine with getting unlocked if it has compatible 3G bands. I'm really tired of edge.
[HD2 General] HTC Touch Freak:
Sadly the only phone I know of that you can buy unlocked and will have T-Mo Us 3g banding is the Nokia N900. I hope that within this next year carrier start making Quadband 3G devices not just Quadband GPRS/EDGE.

I'm fine with the speed of my edge connection. Works fast enough to do whatever I need it to do. Except watch internet TV. Heck I even played a game of Halo 3 using the phone as a router.
[HD2 General] Tanmay®:
Would be better for us if this thread was moved to the new Leo section.
[HD2 General] lucky 69:
thanks for the info. hope will see it soon at least better pics !
[HD2 General] gvino:
HTC has yet to announce it for release in Singapore. At least one more month of waiting still.
[HD2 General] uc4life:
LEO..LEO for $270???

I saw an internet posting for david elects ltd. i emailed them and they say they have the leo sealed with a 30day return policy...and 2year warranty for $270 buck plus $40 shipping. they have a post with all kind of electronics. I am a positive upbeat person, but how can they have the hd2 as it is posted early for so little, and then it say buy 2 get 1 free, sounds like a rip off, but i hope it is not! has any1 ever dealts with these guys or anything like it... check it out google david elects ltd...let me know..i think this would make the whole community very excited:)
[HD2 General] Pantaloonie:
...because it is.
[HD2 General] audscott:
It's obvious it's a rip....but why not fully explore the shop: Ask what their payment options are. If CC, then you have the protection of your bank (at least that's how it is in the US). If they want a wire transfer, tell them it's coming through in a few minutes; smile, then run like hell. :D
[HD2 General] HTC Touch Freak:
LMFAO!!!!!:D
[HD2 General] addicus:
I had a Wizard before ATT had 3G. I go to tmobile and they buy a whole different spectrum bands and then the only keyboard phone they had (non-side****) was the wing. I got a 8525 and I can't even use the 3G. That was cool before my phone became my main internet mchine, but now I'd love 3G. If TMobile doesn't ruin the HD2 and I can afford it I will definetly get it.
[HD2 General] galaxys:
^Feel your pain...I've had to use tmob Edge for over 2 years and I use my ppc 90% of the time on the internet or tethering! I was just ready to get the TP2 for 3G (even though I don't need a keyboard & it was heavy), and they announce the HD2. So, I'm hanging on by a thread...
[HD2 General] addicus:
I thought I was the only one who felt the TP2 was heavy. It was heavier than my Hermes with a 2600 extended battery. The HD2 is really making me excited, even without a keyboard.
[HD2 General] audscott:
The TP2 was in my view, heavy and fat. I just couldn't get enough interest in 3G to trade off the inconvenience for the added speed.
[HD2 General] HTC Touch Freak:
TP2 looked nice in the leeked 2009 Road Map for HTC but after I saw pics and found out it was a full qwerty keyboard I wrote it off cause I knew it would be thick and heavy.

Just too big for everyday use. Even buisness use.
[HD2 General] ccristal:
I wrote to him. His name seems to be "David Mark". He's located in London, so I asked him about collecting the handset in person and he replied that it would not be possible, and then I asked him his phone number and he went quiet.
[HD2 General] audscott:
Being so close to Halloween I can't resist: Maybe it's a set of hands...or, (wait for it) a hand set. :eek:
[HD2 General] kindadevil:
Does anybody knows the releasing date in Hong Kong? and where to buy it, since i´m moving these days and cannot provide an address to receive the phone if I buy online. :confused:
[HD2 General] MNX1024:
Not sure when it will release in Hong Kong and where you can get it specifically.

But, once it's release(including grey market), you can check Sin Tat in Argyle Street Mongkok and Apliu Street Sham Sui Po.
[HD2 General] mojohio:
Grandpanda- my butt is falling asleep! I'm on the edge of my seat, waiting word of this possibility. I was shocked to see the text HD2 and att in the same sentence. Please let us know as soon as you hear anything.
[HD2 General] warnold007:
The htc.com website (possibly South East Asia region only based on where I'm at) is temporarily being updated which means good news for us here... *cough* Singapore *cough* :D
[HD2 General] HTC Touch Freak:
Don't count on it. Last time it was down it was to only update flash content on the US site.
[HD2 General] warnold007:
Yeah, looks like it. No word on HD2 on HTC SEA website. I hope the guy who rumored a coming soon release for Singapore has very reliable sources... :confused:
[HD2 General] kindadevil:
Thank you man! I shall go there. Hopefully not a so long delay with respect to Europe, it´s not fair with us.
[HD2 General] grayme:
When I was looking for my HD I found loads of these scammers, often hiding behind seemingly innocent private sales based in London. :mad:

I'd contact them and suddenly they aren't just selling an HD for £300, but have 15 of every phone out there on BOGOF at even lower prices. :rolleyes:

They are in London, but no local pickup. :rolleyes:

They are huge businesses with an email address which is random letters @yahoo.com. :rolleyes:

They will only take Western Union. :rolleyes:

If it sounds too good to be true.... ;)
[HD2 General] digimaz:
Are you referring to my previous post? My friend's dad has friends with the upper management of a service provider in singapore and was supposed to get it last weekend. I asked my friend today and found out that he didn't get it in the end as it was too expensive and settled for a Acer instead. I asked him to dig more information from his father already. If i have any news I will definitely update here.
[HD2 General] bym007:
yeaa maan!!! want some more "preciousss" .... lol
[HD2 General] digimaz:
Nice looking case for the HD2.

http://www.expansys.com.sg/d.aspx?i=189819
[HD2 General] Pantaloonie:
Description says "Protect your HTC HD2 from scrapes and scratches with the same pouch case you have got with your HD2."

So it's the same case that comes with the HD2...
[HD2 General] digimaz:
If the HD2 really comes with that case i would be damm happy. The one that came with the HD with downright ****ty and cheap and flimsy and linty.
[HD2 General] itshakm:
Did any1 tried this? saw it too & wander, is this really ....
[HD2 General] kindadevil:
I have been looking around for different choices, and of course HD2 is the best we could find so far; but I feel a little bit jealous about Maemo 5 on Nokia N900, just because of one of the specs: Nokia promotes its device as a ¨true internet experience¨ full pc-like browsing, etc., I wonder if with better hardware and bigger screen, we could compete with this.
[HD2 General] niknik76:
PLEASE, he (they/whatever) is a scammer

IF it was true the whole world would buy phones from him and sell them on ebay and the whole world would be rich..

People like him -if you can't really contribute to their arrest leave them alone. It would not be difficult to say a lot of bad things about people like that -but I guess the best thing is just to leave them alone
[HD2 General] lucky 69:
i know everyone waiting for the hd2 to appear,well to be released .i came a cross this the android version of it .http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/htc-dragon-coming-to-verizon-as-the-passion/ wonder what version t-mobile will be getting ? just found this to hope its true http://www.t3.com/news/htc-hd2-on-sale-11th-november-for-£500-sim-free?=41679
[HD2 General] MasterTP:
The first unboxing of the retail version : http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2009/10/27/htc-hd2-unboxing-video/
[HD2 General] bym007:
Just saw it and it looks amazing !! HTC has done it big time !!!
[HD2 General] galaxys:
Awesome vid...HTC is finally making a 'grand' move!
[HD2 General] ilordvader:
Few Questions Guys

I have the Att Tilt2 (TP2)

lot of issues with it

I want to know cos we buy a HD2 which is Unlock phone

if we will be able to do Tethering

Will we get the H or 3g Speed (im in US, seems like Att blocks the H speed)

or will we have other issues cos its not supported in USA yet

Thanks
[HD2 General] Darkriderdesign:
US 3G Bands?

my Touch HD t8285 it has the bands:

HSDPA/WCDMA:

Australia/US: 850/2100 MHz (for Australia Telstra Next G and USA 3G AT&T)

it get AT&T 3G in the states.

Will the HD2 get US 3G with the 2100 mhz band? on AT&T?

where AT&T has 3G bands on 850/2100 mhz and the new HD2 has

900/2100mhz?
[HD2 General] addicus:
We could answer this question but it wouldn't be fair for those who actually read the thread or used the search this thread option.

-

Hint - TMobile USA this time.
[HD2 General] digimaz:
Looks like it doesn't come with a case. And I was hoping that it came with the one on expansys.
[HD2 General] leobox1:
but seriously htc touch HD is not far off
[HD2 General] Zhuk86:
Noo no case! will have to add it to my preorder! :)
[HD2 General] InfernokingS:
Unboxing

they posted in the comments that it isn't the final package, maybe then there will be a case included
[HD2 General] jgal:
Yeah I hope they will include some kind of a case or pouch or something. In addition, I was hoping that they will also include some kind of a USB adapter for users to easily make use of the built-in USB host feature
[HD2 General] NetRipper:
HTC didn't advertise this feature. It's just a possibility of the chipset, and may not even be enabled without some xda-devs magic. In short, I wouldn't count on it.
[HD2 General] qtek_metanol:
After watch this video:

http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2009/10/27/htc-hd2-unboxing-video/

I can realize the cheaper processing of the materials, this phone looks clumpy and very cheap....!!!
[HD2 General] niknik76:
erhh ok...

I can't really see that, but if you think so...
[HD2 General] adendum:
Ze Zermans can rejoice: Available on preorder on amazon.de

599 Euros

http://www.amazon.de/HTC-Smartphone-Vertrag-Branding-Simlock/dp/B002RXKH1A/ref=reg_hu-wl_item-added

Estimated time of delivery: 1 to 3 months xD

Still no word from o2.de or T-Mobile oO
[HD2 General] jgal:
What's more interresting about that unboxing video is something that Surur from WMPoweruser has noticed. He noticed that the earphones jack has 4 pins wchich usually means... TV Out capabilities!!! So maybe HD2 will have that feature in the hardware which only will have to be unlocked by XDA Magicians like with Raphael!!!
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
I really hate to disappoint you, but it doesn't mean anything like that. Touch HD's headset also has a 4-contact jack, two of them are used for sound (left, right), one of them is used for the answer button, and the fourth one is "ground", i.e. the common wire for all three functions.
[HD2 General] jgal:
But it's good to have false hope once in a while right?:P Anyway now I know what will be the first thing which I'll be doing to my HD2 when it ships to me on Nov 10th. I'll be checking the registry for any TV Out related entries:P
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
Actually, you can do it now - just download Leo OEM packages and check .rgu files - these files turn into registry entries. :)

That still won't prevent you from having those hopes, I know, and I don't mind really if HD2 does end up with a TV Out one way or another. :)
[HD2 General] jgal:
Well, I guess I schouldn't complain as the HD2's screen is so big that it's almost like a TV itsself:P What is more important for me is that USB Host feature thingy
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
Actually there's no.... erm, you'll see yourself. :)
[HD2 General] ilordvader:
Talk to onthegosoloutions.com

& they said 3g wont work in USA

so it will be like the old HD only for UK resi for now

thats sad for people in USA

I dont think many people here will spend

$900 for a phone with no 3g
[HD2 General] l3v5y:
HTC said there would be an HD2 for the US markets following fairly shortly.

This is what you get for wanting to be different to the rest of the world. :D
[HD2 General] MrEdwardK:
A quick review of the lastest version of the phone not quite in final retail packaging http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFtqsrbsHzY
[HD2 General] bym007:
Someone please say yes!!!! I can not imagine a decent htc phoneset without a case

jp@o2 ??? do you have anything to say ?
[HD2 General] kinnyfaifai:
For such a high end device I'd expect a mickey mouse case at best from HTC if they included one, but i'm not too bothered about the case. I just want the device! :)
[HD2 General] bym007:
Some people may not be bothered, but htc in my opinion have made some of the best looking + most functional cases. I am talking from my experience with XDA IIi, XDA Exec, Mini S and now Diamond ...

Now they "better" put one case in my retail box .... lol
[HD2 General] MasterTP:
One more video!

http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2009/10/28/htc-hd2-sense-ui-video-walk-through/
[HD2 General] qtek_metanol:
I don't think that the touch HD2 (LEO) will increase the drop sales from former model HD1, even if the new one is horrible as the first one.

Cheaper and crappy touch feeling by pressing the keys at the lower side of the phone, the case uses a pulpy plastic material which looks ok at the videos and photos but terrible when you it sees live ..!
[HD2 General] niknik76:
Have you seen it live?