yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] access_gopal:
HI guys

This is Gopal. i have kaiser (stock WM6.1 and Hero). my phone is working slow and have some network problem... where all the nokia phone gives good signal strength my phone gives none or hardly one... i am from bangalore (INDIA). please suggest me what to do???

is the custom ROM a solution???

I am using Mapking with bangalore map activated in it... and i dont want to loose my gps. so please let me know about gps solution in custom ROM.

I will really appreciate you reply and your suggestions.

Thanks in advance

Gopal

HTC TyTN II

WM 6.1 Stock

Hero

radio 1.65.16.25

Rom version3.29.707.0 WWE
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] P4k1t0:
Go to wiki dude!

Try to change the radio, try someone's to see what works better on your zone!
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] clandest:
I have AT&T, and i've heard I needed a rogers phone to be able to use all the features of the phone.

Theses are the cheapest 32a (288 ram correct?) HTC magics that i've found.

Why is one cheaper than the other? The one that doesn't say rogers, should I be able to use fine?

http://www.negrielectronics.com/product_info.php?products_id=2596{txt_8}{10}

http://www.atgsm.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=Phone-HTCMagic&CartID=1

thank you
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] thinkdifferent:
I believe vodafone only carries the 32B variant and would not support ATT3g anyway.

I think they do 900/2100 bands.

Only Rogers has the ATT bands, which makes sense since it used to be Rogers-ATT wireless.

I actually have a Rogers Magic and a T-mobile myTouch. I have to say that the performance is indeed better on the Magic. However, the ATT3g network is really not that big a deal. I can save a few seconds here and there, but nothing to really write home about.
[G1 Android Development] rizoh66:
I had the G1 for about 9 months and had gone through 3 of them before I decided to upgrade to a myTouch. My main concern was that my phone was always way too slow. Especially when I was in the middle of an app and clicked on the home button. It would seriously take up to 30 seconds to show the apps on my homescreen. So now that I have a MT3G I have noticed that it has started doing the same thing. I am rooted and running CM 4.04 with a Hero Remix theme.

My question is, what is the fastes ROM running on the G1 or MT3G now? I dont really need it to be a Hero type ROM, just a fast rom so I dont have to constantly wait for my homescreen to load.

Thanks, :cool:
[G1 Android Development] uansari1:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=559203

Wrong forum. Reported.
[G1 Android Development] rizoh66:
Why would you report me? Just say wrong forum DB...
[G1 Android Development] scotchua:
"fastest rom" threads are automatically closed anyway. There is no such thing, and typically it just leads to bickering.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] antoniomistretta:
My dear friend Annino, has made these icons for you!

This cab, edit the system folder also!

Download:

http://rapidshare.com/files/278817873/Folder_Icons.cab!

or

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=783AO1R4
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] antoniomistretta:
very nice!:D
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] mccune:
The megaupload link does not seem to work atm. Nice icons, will check 'm out :)

Edit: My bad, thought they we're icons that could be used like a normal DLL file...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] antoniomistretta:
But it's a normal cab!:)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] mccune:
I know. But they contain Manila files. Would not know how to get the icons out of the Manila files like you can with a DLL file.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] antoniomistretta:
I'll ask the author!:)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] anninor:
You must use CFCgui!

:)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] antoniomistretta:
Exactly!:rolleyes:
[G1 Android Development] jaaronmoody:
OK so i know this is the wrong forum, BUT I came across this and wanted to "bump" it so to speak. This was posted by kyphur in 08 and in a mods sig now. Please read and adhere to the spirit of the post. It is RIGHT ON!!!

I think what a lot of people forget is that this is not a "make my phone neat & kewl" place.

As implied by the name this is technically a Developers forum/community.

Now what does that mean? Well first off it means that there is an expectation that if you are here then you want to customize your device but rather than just installing something that someone packaged you want to understand how it works and maybe even enhance it yourself.

When I first came here with a Blue Angel it was a different environment. PDA Phones were not embraced by the general public because of the expense and complexity (I paid over $400 for my BA). A $400 phone 4 years ago was expensive, today the Tilt is $300 after rebates but with inflation & the rise in the cost of other devices and the fact that there are other sources out there giving them away for $150 our neat bit of kit has become popular with mainstream users.

Now we have a flood of new users who are asking not "How can I do this myself" but more like "Give me the quick fix" without caring to understand the process. See if you read the threads then you get to experience the learning process, you see how the issues were investigated and confirmed. Then you get to watch the different attempts at resolution and learn why some failed while others worked. That is called Development.

The NooB backlash is coming from users who have walked in the development shoes and is directed mainly at those who don't care for the journey but just want the end result or destination.

As a Development Forum we are just as much (if not more) about the journey. I've read so many comments like "I don't have time to read all of the threads" or "I don't care how it works, just that it does". These very statements are contrary to the heart & soul of XDA-Devs and that is why the backlash is so strong.

Let me be very clear on this: IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE JOURNEY THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most.

XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him.

Now do we go kicking users off who never contribute anything, NO. We tolerate it to an extent. Where the toleration ends is when these users start diluting the usefulness of the forum by repeating the same questions over and over again.

You ask us to understand your position. Well if you want to benefit from our experience and time then I think it is only fair that you understand our position.
[G1 Android Development] Pinesal:
Maybe you can recommend an alternative site for people who just want the newest tweaks and software.
[G1 Android Development] jaaronmoody:
the idea is not that only developers should be looking at this site, but that this is a place where developers communicate with each other and the beneficiaries of their work. This is not the place for someone to post threads about general questions about how to use or mod their device. This is a place that will develop the capabilities of the android platform if it is allowed. Developers WILL abandon this forum if it becomes a bulletin board or a technical support site.....and if you need a question answered, there are other forums on THIS site to address those.
[G1 Android Development] ivanmmj:
Agreed 100%. While developing for the Windows mobile, I also got the same thing. I would post a thread and WARN people of a certain things and tell them how to fix it. Then I'd get 30 pages of "geeze, you broke something. how do you fix it?" That gets annoying real fast. I would love it if this forum forced people to take a test before they could post in the development sections... Before that, they should only be able to post in the regular sections.

One thing that really bugs me is the fact that the newbs don't want to search but don't realize that they take OUR time to search FOR them. No one knows everything. Every developer on this site searches and learns. I know that if you put together all the time that I've spent on this site JUST researching and searching, it'd be MONTHS and MONTHS of non-stop, no sleep searching and researching. So why can't the average person search for 2 minutes? Is their time worth more than my time?

/rant - while talking on the phone so it might not make sense...
[G1 Android Development] Meltus:
There are thousands, but essentially all they do is copy stuff off here.

Like the post said, if you just want to root your phone so it can do 'cool stuff' and not give a **** about how the damn thing works then maybe you shouldn't be modding your phone (that wasn't aimed at you btw, just 'people' in general :p the market place is made up of 99% 'these people' who don't/can't read and it's pretty irritating.)

Agree with the post 100%, fantastic :)
[G1 Android Development] samygent:
we sadly are living in the (ME) world :(

there is such a huge gape beetween the 10-19 generation and 20-29

10-19 generation is living in such an easy world, they never had to blow into their nintendo cassettes , know how heavy a quantum bigfoot is or what RTFM mean's :D
[G1 Android Development] jubeh:
You said it, this is in the wrong forum.

You're not an admin and although you can spend your time here (and pretty much all of your posts) reporting out-of-place threads, you're still not an admin.

People always wonder into communities and it always takes a while to learn the way things work. Mickey is doing a good job on closing and moving threads that are unrelated to development.

With that said...

Reported.
[G1 Android Development] ccyrowski:
Agreed. It's really, really, really, really getting to me. I wish OP's had semi-moderator power. They could at least delete all necessary posts and ban that user - if required- for a certain amount of time from their thread only.
[G1 Android Development] jaaronmoody:
ughh, no i'm not an admin, and no almost all my posts, or the majority, or a half are reported threads, but i do try to help out the mods when i can. they are not on all forums at all times and can use the help, and they have said as much.
[G1 Android Development] h.nocturna:
Oh thank you thank you! People here should want to understand why thing the work as they work. Not just want their phones to look cool.
[G1 Android Development] jokersax11:
As it you wouldnt know it, i have been with xda for years well since the titan came out. before that i was modding an ipaq and of course the old palms. everyonce in awhile i lose interest and move on only to come back when i have something new(major a.d.d). i do write java as well as c and even c++(so on) i typically find this place useful to try stuff out and even set up my own custom rom just for me. i dont post because i can google. while i have many of my own questions i would like answered i simply dont ask most of the time(such as using micro kernels and modding app2sd to make the os have two options sd in or out. however the problem is not the generations or age difference or anything like that. its social systems outside of xda. posting a reply used to mean an answer or something useful. now its normal to simply post "great job". thats nice and all but maybe instead of complaining about it we should come up with a new system that improves xda. like a sorting system or sub thread system and set up catagorys for our replys. like thumbs up would be for the "good job". i know its hard to keep everyone happy but this is a forum first, a forum has design problems when you get the number of people xda has. use advanced search it helps a lot. a sorting system with requirements for certain catagorys would help devs. its not easy modding and getting it right and you cant do it alone. xda is the help even if its not your phone sometimes others have solutions too. such as winmo users putting android on their phones(yes i did it too my old titan for fun). things i learned and other devs learn can help us and vice versa. i have yet to find bad technology only poorly thought out ideas that could have been. which is why we mod.

p.s. wtf is up with palm and blackberry ads all the time.
[G1 Android Development] dta1974:
Most of those kids just want the answer or fix in the next 3min. with perfect steps or a patch that supposedly will fix and hack their device,after that they´ll never show up.

All they want is to show off without bothering to read.
[G1 Android Development] pistol4413:
I totaly understand. I do feel sometimes that certain devs do get a bit annoyed with people who just want to fix the phone and not understand. I'm not linux or coding wiz. But whe I got here in may I was one of the people who just wanted me phone to be better than urs. I still have that to some extent but I have developed more of a "how and what is causeing this issue" attitude. I try to contribute as best as I can. Helping out over at q&a as best as I can. I enjoy xda and without my days would be more boring than what the are now. I dunno I guess I'm just rambling. Bottom line is I have tried to correct my attitude toward modding. Hell I even post my email so users can drop a line if they need help.
[G1 Android Development] pistol4413:
i am 20 and i fondly remember blowing into my nes super nes and genesis games.
[G1 Android Development] saprano614:
i am pretty new to XDA. when i first found this site all i wanted was a quick fix. now i am getting more intrested in the actual dev aspect. i want to be able to create my own rom eventualy. yes i do find myself asking stupid questions and getting some foul responses but in my opinion no question is a stupid one. only the one not asked. yes alot of people just want a fix but there are new users who want to learn. like me. so i appreciate the help i have recieved from most members. and i alwasy appoligise for my stupidity. so dont get down on all noobs because alot of us want to learn and the only way to is to ask.
[G1 Android Development] jaaronmoody:
nobody is getting down on noobs. ONLY the site users who FAIL to post questions and general comments in the correct forum
[G1 Android Development] saprano614:
Just want to make a statement befor someone did.
[G1 Android Development] Do0zman:
I thank you for this post. I came to this forum a long time ago I have learned quite a bit and appreciate everything that is done here. There are very skillful people that are on here and I wish I had the amount of skill then thesemodders, hackers, developers etc... have I keep my mouth shut unless i feel there is some thing that i know how to answer, i have never complained about a single rom i simply research what can be done to change for fix it, all answers rely in a search somewhere either here or google. I just wish other people would do the same then we would be able to prevent a 300+ page threads where only about 25 pages are worth anything.

look at the amount of posts from someone who knows they are barley able to contrubute(but do what he can) and been here this long. compared to people who have been here dont have much to contribute but love to post everything that comes to thier minds.

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[G1 Android Development] roadrunnerx7:
HEY!

im 18 and clearly remember blowing into those damn games to make them work. but when they worked, so much fun :) i still think theyre better than the crappy xbox and ps3 games of today... but thats just me. lol
[G1 Android Development] jaaronmoody:
pleeease yall! let's keep THIS thread on topic! LOL!!
[G1 Android Development] rikupw:
YES

haha, and I? I've been perusing XDA since last january and only posted 50ish times, why? because I searched for the answer and figured it out, and even nwo I still have no understanding for tons of things, agreed 100% with OP :)

PS: 20, and I never did any of that >.> but I still love android, and it made me love linux :)
[G1 Android Development] jubeh:
Here's something I've come across, though. Though I don't agree with vigilantism, I do agree this is a developer's community. There are the ones of us who do bring something to the table (be it a better way to do things, a faster way to do things, an alternate way to do things, or simply trying to cater to a certain niche). However, I've yet to see the part where this is a forum where devs help each other, or otherwise help people undertstand how to do it themselves. There's a certain air of "I learned how to do it myself, so you do it too" going on around here, and you can count on one hand the people who do help around ("google it" doesn't count). I, for example, consider myself to be computer literate. I've been a computer hobbyist for over 15 years and I have three years of computer science courses under my belt, I understand programming, though, because I never did do anything with it, I get easily stumped and need my "hand held through". Linux too is an entirely new thing for me, been using linux distros on and off for about 2 years, so I easily get lost. I joined this community wishing to learn and conteibute (which of us didn't want to be like jf or crazy-narcissist haykuro), but then I came across many people who just wouldn't help. Granted, they don't have to, but isn't that the spirit of the forum? I still didn't give up and, about 4 months after joining, reading, learning, asking, and helping learn, I was the first person to put up a functional hero rom with rosie that all fit in death spl. I'll help the people when I can, and I'll keep bothering other people with questions, even those who come ask at the wrong place. Is there a "place" to learn? People come with questions, it implies they wish to learn. "How do I root?" Is usually the fisrt question before "how do I flash", or "how do I make a rom", or "how do I make a build" or "how do I make a kernel" or "how can I help?". Spam clutters the board, but rude responses kill the spirit.
[G1 Android Development] jaaronmoody:
there are much more than a handful of those who contribute to this site, and to learn...., well.... i don't know of a GENERAL HOW TO question that you would need to post a new thread that hasn't been addressed in the q & a forum or the one thread at the top of this forum
[G1 Android Development] jubeh:
I remember when in andev.org (pretty much abandoned now) there used to be almost daily [How To]s and you'd learn about android's java. There are how-tos here, but seldom of the same quality. Maybe we need a how-to sub-forum.
[G1 Android Development] jaaronmoody:
do the devs want an ez how to for anyone to learn [HOW TO]. Probably not all of them. There are those who are, and those who WILL be in it for the $$... and the more that are in the know, the less $$ there is to make on the startup side.
[G1 Android Development] Capper5016:
First of all, let me say you are no better than anyone here, including the people you choose to chastise.

If developers want to correspond, they have IM, PM, and emails that they can use to communicate. If they want a private forum to discuss stuff out of public view, then I'm all for XDA giving them one.

Where you are 100% wrong is that while there are some people who are jerks, all of us pay for this site through ad revenue, and donations.....so by you deciding to "make things right", all you are in fact doing is hurting this forum and the developers....because without the donations from regular users, you'd actually have to get a life.

I think all you have managed to do is upset a lot of people needlessly.....this forum is actually light years ahead of where it was 6 months ago.....great job numbnutz.

so we get down to it, and you are a complete tool. First of all, isnt the point of OPEN SOURCE to get more people involved? Isnt it meant to get as many people as possible contributing to better the project? I have no problem with people creating something on their own, and trying to make some money.....but you are probably one of those people that blast M$ for trying to monopolize things and make as much money as possible, but I guess that only applies to things you dont have a personal interest in.....
[G1 Android Development] jaaronmoody:
anyways..... thanx to the mod scotchua!!! i found this in your sig!! OLD WISDOM NEW AUDIENCE!!!
[G1 Android Development] raysilverstone:
I agree with you completely. I just got Flamed by the OP in a thread i made recently. I ask questions to learn. Not one single person was plucked from there mothers womb knowing all there is to know about a particular field. We learn by doing research and asking questions about things we don't know or understand. With this newly acquired knowledge we take it and answer questions that others have posted so they can carry on the learning process. Kindness goes a long way. Being rude on the other hand is another story. I do agree that it would be nice if the forums where broke down with sub forums pertaining to particular areas of said forum. Also an advance search filter would be nice. (if it already exists then i don't know about it.) The fault i have with the current search is it searches all the forums not a particular phone's forum. Also with everything is changing daily so yesterdays new things are generations old within a few hours. Lastly with the search i have trouble finding past posts/threads that pertain to a unique question. I know we have all had that problem with Google... ect. It is hard trying to find just the right answer most of us are looking for when posting.

A side note: just because we have a high post number does not mean we post a lot of "how do i do this threads." Some post go to helpful replies. For an example i post a lot on the thread about the current theme i am using. Mainly to help the developer with the art aspects of it. He is not an Art person and i am so i simply brought what i have to offer to his development.

PS i would like to think all those that are helpful to the new people that ask questions.
[G1 Android Development] prince.siraj:
yeah but some of us do try to get through the manuals... and by 10-19 you mean years right? cuz i'm 14 and even i remember the super nintendos =D but yes it's an easy world for us, although i don't mind learning stuff like on xda-devs. there's a few of us that care about technology, code, and software development though very rare these days since the older generations have made all these "Just download and it does everything else" kind of stuff, but some of us don't mind learning the hard stuff, for one it makes it alot easier for the dev if you don't have to make a do-it-all package and the end user knows enough to do some (WHICH MOST DON'T) i admittedly don't know that much, but this is a place that i've been able to learn a LOT. but wtf is a quantum bigfoot? lol
[G1 Android Development] miketaylor00:
I understand people who don't know much and want to learn. I help people out all of the time. I have my gmail account in my signature and I probably get an average of 5 people adding me per day to ask me questions. I'm all for that. I came here in July and I didn't know ANYTHING. Now I'm helping JAC and Cyrowski tune their ROMs and doing testing for them. Yeah, I have other experience that most people don't have but I learned 99% of what I know from searching. What bothers me is when people are too lazy to even search. Or they say I searched but couldnt' find anything and it was something easy to find like how to use ADB. Really? You can't find a thread on that, considering that it is a sticky on the Q&A forum? I had one guy hit me up on gtalk and say I want to install a Cyanogen and I don't know where to start. I said have you rooted your phone. He said, what does that mean. I told him I'll answer any question you have but I'm not going to hold your hand through the entire process.

I agree some of what is being said here is a little harsh. But I understand the frustration. Developers who work their butts off getting dogged because their experimental ROM is perfect. People posting a question that was answered 2 posts above their post. Seriously? This entire site needs to be more about respect. On both sides. Noobs need to search until they have exhausted every resource avaiable to them and the "experts" need to help people out who really try.