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[Touch Cruise Android Development] iseeka:
going to try myself

I changed this... is this what it needs to be changed?

wifi starts and works.. i´ll try a bit 16:23 batt 75% no wifi sleep policy screen off (i´ll check in10 mins) as an easy way to check on standby (not sure how to check with use)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] DJ_Steve:
far as i know yes, i think it should be set to elp to do powersave
[Touch Cruise Android Development] iseeka:
WIFI standby test (no wifi sleep policy ,screen off) (not sure how to make an in use test)

16:23 batt 75%

16:59 72% not very good but phone is cold! :) probably is better than before

17:16 71%

17:24 71% .. 1 hour 4% I think is good. I know battery meters on android are not very accurate but i´m going to update the bundle as it doesn´t harm either

17:34 70%

17:47 69%

18:02 68%

18:09 67% end of test (i have to leave home and i want so save battery :) so wifi off )

If someone else can try it may help.. it´s just editing tiwlan with any text editor

if it is better bundle will be actualized.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] DJ_Steve:
yea that works about to be fairly on par with the 1150mah battery my g1 uses and it is renowed to eat battery
[Touch Cruise Android Development] iseeka:
consume that with wifi activated? we´ll at least we reach your consume... and on sdcard;)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] DJ_Steve:
Yep I could kill my g1 battery in under 5 hours on 3g less than 4 on wifi. Battery life using its standard battery is chronic. Hence why I have a extended bat now
[Touch Cruise Android Development] gooner187:
Wow looks as though i've sparked off a bit of development. Thanks for looking into this guys!!
[Touch Cruise Android Development] iseeka:
new file uploaded http://rapidshare.com/files/279048146/android_full_120909.rar

110909 had a missing file, nothing new

wifi power savings activated
[Touch Cruise Android Development] mylostnick:
Hi and excuse me.

But perhaps I've something wrong.

Even with these files I can't connect to my network...

Can it depend by my default.txt? (I use my personal default.txt, not that in the zipfile)

As before my wifi go on and can see the AP.

When I try to connect, after a while, it says "disconnected" (under the ESSID of my AP I can read "Remembered, secured with WPA2")...

What's the matter?

Thank u very much for all.

Bye
[Touch Cruise Android Development] iseeka:
you deleted data.img before trying this bundle right?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] reiteravi:
same here

formatted the sd card

doesnt connect to the router

(left open not to suspect wpa)

btw casper worked flawlessly (the wifi)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] idreadful:
SD card partitioning

Since it was lot of talks about ext3 partitioning, I am trying to find out how exactly should we partition our SD cards and how to make it equal to .img or .sqsh we use. E. g. how to create proper partitions and how to extract .img/.sqsh there. It seems there should be 2 partitions one with boot files (kernel, initrd, default.txt, haret, etc.) and second one with extracted system image. Is there a guide for that partition thing, may be I missed something?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Michel82:
Indeed the 'old' way of working just with the image files is working again, but i would really suggest to create the partitions, it makes everything run even smoother and can prevent you from having a not responding/wait for message here and there. Gparted is the way to go to do it. I've tried to do it from windows without succes. If you have a linux machine it's easy peasy, else download the live cd: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php

Bluetooth is (unfortunately) and has never been working on our polarises yet. From the donut releases on also GPS isn't working anymore. As you say, batterylife is really good since dzo's changes to the powermanagement. With lcd density you actually set the DPI of your screen. This together with the resolution makes how the GUI is displayed. Our displays are 240x320 (dpi 120). Some builds or roms are exclusively build for higher resolutions (320x480 for example). You can force android to scale 320x480 down to 240x320 by also forcing the lcd.density to a higher level. See this document for details: http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Michel82:
Best tool to use is Gparted, see post above for details. Create three partitions in this order on your SD (it's important your FAT partition is the first partition).

1. FAT32 (total size of your card minus 512 mb)

2. EXT2 (256mb)

3. EXT2 (256 mb)

Boot your android (with the latest basefiles ofcourse) as usual and it'l detect your partitions automagically and follow the onscreen instructions (especially the part where you're asked to press volume down key).
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bbezja1:
FAT32 will not be detected by linux, right? i'm asking this, because i have loads of pictures, music, ringtones etc etc that i would like to use on both WM and PolaDroid. --Answered myself with trying it. Looks like Android uses the FAT32 partition and reads all the data.

later i am supposed to copy basefiles and all android related files to 2nd partition? --Answered myself with carefuly reading what Michel82 said: Start haret normaly on your fat partition and wait a few second for a request. Pull your volume button down (VolDn i think) fast because it wont wait long ;).

What is 3rd partition used for?

can i ask the thread starter to copy all this info to first post and update the first post, please? or if i could do it somehow?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] iseeka:
i think partition can be done in windows... erasing all the data though

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=267475
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bbezja1:
iseeka update first posts. its realy confusing for ppl if they want to try all this
[Touch Cruise Android Development] meknb:
Don't think windows disk management can create ext2 partitions gparted is the eazy way or paragon partition manager http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=512873
[Touch Cruise Android Development] idreadful:
SD partitioning using Disk Utility on Mac OS X

Successfully installed android to partitioned SD (formatted with Mac OS X), maybe it will be helpful for somebody.

I used trial of Paragon ExtFS for Mac OS which you may download here. Once it installed, mount you SD (using usb adapter or card-reader), run Disk Utility and find it on the side bar. Select partition tab on the right and choose "3 partitions" in the volume scheme. Adjust each volume' size and format (Extended filesystem will be available):

1. MS-DOS (fat) (as much as possible except 2nd and 3rd partition)

2. ExtFS (256Mb)

3. ExtFS (256Mb)

(thanks Michel82 for hint)

Then press apply.

Once it was formatted, it will be readable on your mac (or linux).

Put latest basefiles and system .img/.sqsh to the root of 1st partition and run haret (do everything as usual). On "Press volume down" prompt do it. I went through few questions almost always pressed End key.

It worked fine for me, except my 1Gb Sd card is too slow, and there was no any profit. Will try later when able to plug my 4Gb C4 class SD into any card reader which supports 4Gb.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] cainlol:
partitioning in windows

here is a good link for partioining in windows:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=512873
[Touch Cruise Android Development] idreadful:
Home screen constantly reboots

Almost always while getting back to home screen (usually with home key), it appears empty and start to load widgets and main menu. It takes about 10-20 seconds, and it happens constantly. Is there any trick or at least explanation of this issue?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] zappinggg:
Hi all

I use Android vogue on my HTC Polaris, but i dont have the language : FRENCH in my settings.

I use the lastest files from here http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android/downloads/list

How can i add the french languages PLS?

Thx for your answers.

zapp
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bbezja1:
ive noticed that my battery goes all wrong when i switch between android and windows. it starts nice at 100% for both but then it gets all messed up. i get battery warning at windows but 40% at android and 1 more day working, or shutdown in android for low battery and 6 hours of 5% in windows after boot. etc

also MMS isnt working? internet works (i think even 3G?) but downloading MMS fails.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] ZeGuido:
Hy,

I am having problem with the apn settings. I tried o use the method in the default.txt so I added :

"ppp.name=Orange ppp.apn=orange ppp.username=orange ppp.password=orange"

in the default.txt (of course I am an Orange customer, and I do have Data access)

It doesn't work this way.

I also notice that it is possible to set up these in the Android setup. But it doesn't seems to do any more.

Can anybody tell me the difference between setting up the apn in the default.txt and setting it up in the Android setup.

Plus any clue to the correct method would be welcome.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Kiiv:
Which build do you use?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] ZeGuido:
Thank you for your answer Kiiv,

I am using ion based bilt Android1.5. I finally found out a way to make it work: :D

I had to place the setings in the default.txt setup command file on the SD card and to set up the network in Android; I also called my network operator for some detail on the settings in Android. I appeared that I missed the port, server and MMS port settings.

Still I really apreciate your help, and any further comment you may add.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] ZeGuido:
I have been looking for the different sources of Apps available, and obviously, the Android store is the main place to find what one need. But I didn't find a way to get the .apk files, and they don't appear in the AndroidApps folder (of course).

So I'd like to know how I can make a copy of the apps I download from the Android store to restore my set up in case of a major break down or if I upgrade to another build.

I also checked the different files that appear on my SD card, and I don't understand were are stored my preferences (ringtone, network set up etc...) for backup consideration.

Can anybody explain how all this work ?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Kiiv:
I think all is stored in data.img file. Some apps install some things on the SD card too.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] ZeGuido:
Humm, I see. So some way, it mounts an image work with it and store it back when finished. I'll try to mount this data.img to see what's inside. Thanks.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] slider34:
everything has moved to sourceforge

http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/androidhtc/wiki/WikiStart
[Touch Cruise Android Development] pananza:
End of the road

I love Android, but I hate stuff that does not work. So I'm finally giving up on the Polaris and have just ordered a HTC Hero. So I'll guess I'll be migrating to another section of XDA for now. It was fun while it lasted :)

Good luck to you all.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] w04g005:
I played with the same idea but came to the conclusion that i will wait until march. in march the htc legend is supposed to be selled. Same as hero but with camera light and FM radio. Finally a ppc from HTC with all features i always wanted!
[Touch Cruise Android Development] excogitation:
I just tried the files available on sourceforge (latest from 25.10 if I'm not mistaken).

Wow!

It does work real nice. I had a reset when using the internet extensively, but can't tell what exactly went wrong.

Afaict wlan is working,

gps needs some porting,

as does bluetooth,

the camera does work but not well enough for e.g shopsavy,

but it's still far superior to Win Mobile.

If I got that right there were 2 Polaris' donated to devs some months back...

is there still progress or is the project dead in the water again?

Is there an estimate on how many Polaris' users are already using Android?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] ZeGuido:
I hesitate to post here or on the dev threat :

A few days ago I flew a very long flight to Santiago (Chili). About 14 hours. I used the plane mode and left the HTC Polaris run Android. Surprisingly it burnt completly its power well before landing. I run Android day long and get a much better endurance with the phone on (no Wifi no GPS).

In fact, it seems to me that the only explaination is that it has been searching for a network even in plane mode (as if plane mode didn't turn off phone). I know that any cellphone left on (not in plane mde) during a flight simply burn its battery in a few hour flight (Polaris with WM last about 5 hours if not in flight mode during a flight).

May be I should change something in the default file concerning sleep mode or battery usage.

ION Android 1.5
[Touch Cruise Android Development] ZeGuido:
I used the set up / security&location menu and unchecked the Enable GPS satellites, so I guess that GPS is off. Plus I think that Airplane mode should include turning off GPS.

I'm just surprised by this, because my phone has an average endurance of 24h (Wifi and GPS off) with Android. So when it drain its battery in les than 12h flight mode, there's some problem somewhere.

From previous flight, I know that any phone left on during a long flight is out of battery in a few hours : I suppose it keeps on searching for a network and burn its power this way.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] ZeGuido:
Geting root mode.

Hello again,

Completly different matter this time. I found out that there's some kind of 'root' mode which would give access to some restricted possibility of Android.

Well, being a Linux user, I am espacially cautious about anything named 'root', for it triggers a danger signal. However, it seems that I would need to gain a 'root' Android device. Ok, I found some wiki about how to do it, but none seems applicable to the Polaris Android (of course).

So I searched once again here, but found no solution.

Is there a way to get 'root' with the built we are using (I am using ion built cbr43) ?

Thanks.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] mc_joe:
any chance of getting the eclair and eclair hero to work on our phones? (I say eclair because the new features of 2.0 are quite useful to me :)

on a side note, how do I boot android from a partition on the SD card? (ext2) (i'm kinda lost on what to search but everyone seems to be talking about mssmission's method)

side note2: i'd like to start tweaking android for our phone and start developing for it, any pointers on where to start? (only programmed in windows stuff) :)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Kiiv:
You just have to create two ext2 partitions on your SD card and when you'll run haret it'll prompt you to start the installation process during boot.

Choose to run the installation process (vol down), choose to update the system and to wipe data.

On the other boot you have nothing to do.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] mc_joe:
So i'll have 3 partitions in total no?

A FAT/FAT32 partition to contain haret and all the needed files to run android

2 ext2 partitions (i'm guessing 1 for swap and one for data (being the data one with 256mb and empty no?))

to get things clear, i'll just slap the files on the sd card like a normal haret boot and somewhere in the haret boot process something pops up asking me to install the images to the ext2 partition? is it really that simple? lol

now another question came to mind, if I install it in ext2, i'd access it through haret and I could delete the system.img file no? :)

thx 4 the reply :)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Kiiv:
Yes it's that. But the first ext2 partition is used for the system files and the second is used for data. If you want a swap partition you can create a fourth partition in SWAP format. After, you'll need to configure correctly the user.conf file to used it (I can't explain that, I never did it ^^).

About the installation process, yes, it's exactly what you said and, yes, it's very simple :)

About your last question, during the installation process the system.[img|sqsh] is decompressed on the ext2 partition (if I well understood :/) and then it was copied in a separated folder for backup (oldSystem or something like that). So you don't have to move it manually. You have nothing to do the next time you'll boot, Haret will look automatically on the ext2 partition.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] mc_joe:
could you be more specific on partition sizes? (i only have a 1GB micro sd card available for this). I think i'll pass the swap thing unless absolutely necessary because of the wear it puts on the card :P from my experience so far with android and polaris data.img gets created with 256MB so i'm guessing its the same size (or a bit bigger) for the ext2 partition no?

assuming the same logic for the system.img|.sqsh I would have to create a partition about the same size (or a bit more) of the build i'm using no? (eg: eclair-hero build multi-lang -> 96MB (system.sqsh) partition for it -> 128MB and a corresponding 256 partition for data)

(actually i'm trying to run eclair and eclair hero on my polaris, and so far only eclair hero is booting but it is very unstable and kinda slow and eclair is not passing the android logo lol)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Kiiv:
If I remember, it was recommended to have two partitions of 256Mb for each. I think that the system partition could be lesser if you don't have much space. 128Mb should be ok.

I've run eclair hero last week, with the files in Vogue forum. Run pretty well with swap but many things don't work.

I've got an error at boot time (something like "/SDCard/somefolder is read-only error 2") with standard eclair and last rootfs/zImage.... :/

If you succeed in that, I would like to know how ;)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] mc_joe:
ok, i'll partition it as soon as I can and try it out :)

/sdcard/property is the folder, i got that error too but you have to use a custom one (its posted in the forum) so it'll boot but it is waaay too unstable and wi-fi doesn't work but gprs does (go figure lol)... for now i'd love to have just plain ol' eclair running (no hero) if i can get that one running, running hero shouldn't differ much (i think lol), only problem is I think that the image they have of eclair is modified... i'll try to build directly from the Android sdk to see where this goes (first time doing that) but if anyone can find me an unmodified build i can test it on my polaris :)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] smoly20:
Hi I have the same problem as you can you give me your default.txt please and a link with the files whith i must have please.

MFG Smoly
[Touch Cruise Android Development] andbert:
I have problems with some Market-apps.

They appear to small for the screen, f.example the Nordic Keyboard fills just 2/3 of the screen. I've tried playing with the lcd.density but no result.

Somebody with a hint how to solve this?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bbezja1:
which latest and most working android version are we using? whre do i get it?

i have some hero-ish version and it doesnt work properly :S
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Kiiv:
Try this one.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] imfloflo:
Thanks for the link @Kiiv. Can you make a full ready-to-install package ? Like you already did one time.

I 'll put it on the first post.

Thanks

F.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] action294:
Hi! I have succesfully copied the files onto my SD and booted into Android (wow what a performance), everything works perfectly except a "little" issue: I'm unable to play my audio files (stored on my memory card), I got an error message like "Sorry, the player does not support this type of audio file". I've tried a lot of system files, zImages, Rootfs files etc. Does anyone know a solution for that problem? I would really appreciate your help. My device: check my signature below. Regards: action294
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bbezja1:
Kiiv cant use those because kays are messed up i.e. i cant go directly to home screen, so pressing back in browser is annoying. also camera takes a picture but freezes after, recording video doesnt work and also freezes etc

i like those modified roms, because default android is ugly but only this one works perfectly for me (from 8.8.09)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] scramiro:
i have a 8gb class 6 with partitions:

fat32 the rest

ext2 500 mb (here goes the app installed)

linux-swap 1500 mb

i read it from one web i can't remember. You should get this order and every partition should be "primari". Then, when you put all fiels on fat32 (haret....) and execute haret, the linux screen will ask you to volume down to update. Do it. The results with partitions are incredible.

I have used the Giv link (vogue forum) and it works everything. Some times call freeze. About camara: try differents programs because it works for me. Video recoder... i haven't tried it. The only thing anoys me is battery. I have to charge the phone every day. When i use gprs the battyer goes down quickly.

I also tried 2.0.1 from vogue forum but it didn't work (what a pity, it seems very nice), and sensehero v4 but it had problems with conexions and phone.

Hope it helps! i miss threads about android on polaris forum, it is all about wm... :eek:
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bbezja1:
atm with latest pcarvalho rom (28014) i really feel no need to use android. too many problems with things not working. and rebooting and booting it really isnt worth it while default OS works perfect (except camera ofc :mad:)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] DJ2Ball:
Has anyone reported any problems with audio not working? I've tried a couple of different builds and all of them are working well apart from the device is only able to vibrate, not play any sound. No ringtones, no sms alerts, no sound when videos/mp3s are played.

I've looked high and low and can't find anyone else with this problem?

FYI, I'm using the O2 XDA Orbit 2 (Polaris 200).

And all my volume/sound settings are up :)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Kiiv:
Sorry I've missed that :/

I'm currently running a tattoo build so if I make a full package with donut I will not test it by myself...

But I'm ok to make it if you want.

Or to upload a full tattoo package.

Or both. :p
[Touch Cruise Android Development] antos79:
:confused:Which files i have to download from the ones present here and which steps i have to do to have tattoo build running on my polaris?:confused:

Thank you!
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bbezja1:
maybe you could download and unpack basefiles package in 2009-11-16 and then replace them with ones with newer date. its what i did..

so download in 2009-11-16 the basefiles-20091116.zip package, unpack it to computer,

download zimage in 2009-12-14 and replace zimage from 2009-11-16 package

download system-tatoo*.sqsh in 2010-01-05 and rootfs.zip(unzip it) from 2010-01-07 and replace the ones from 2009-11-16 package

transfer to SD card on run haret

i think this should do. also i can do it for you if you fail
[Touch Cruise Android Development] ikke008:
What's the difference between running android from your normal fat32 sd-cart partition and running android from an ext2 partition?

Is it faster or something?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bbezja1:
its a tiny bit faster
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Kiiv:
If I understood, if you run it from the FAT partition you use only a compressed file system. With ext2 partition you have all the files uncompressed on this partition, so its faster.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] antos79:
Thank you bbezja1! I'll try what you suggested me.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] ikke008:
Oh ok, and is haret actually an emulation (with wm in the background) or does it really reboot your phone in linux?

Thanks ;)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] andbert:
Nand flashing for Vogue has been available for a while. Anybody working on porting that to Polaris?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] kevinmayer86:
It reboots into linux
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bbezja1:
andbert: after completing the nand flashing for Vogue the flashing to Polaris should be easier, because its only a matter of changing some hardware info in the kernel