yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Razva:
Downloads will be allowed ONLY to registered members, by using a protected (anti-leech) link.

Yes, you are totally right, so I think that COMMENTS should not be included. The comments can be posted here, on XDA, along with the discussions.

Or we can leave comments open just for registered members, this way we'll filter 90% of them.

Commenting is one thing. DISCUSSING it is totally different.

The website will NOT allow discussions because it's a totally different thing. So, as I've said, we're talking about a "user-friendly" index, no strings attached.

Regarding the .mobi, yeah, you are kinda right...the legislation tells that the website should be made FOR mobile devices, not ABOUT mobile devices. Still...I know a bunch of websites that deal with things ABOUT mobile devices and have .mobi, and nobody told anything. It's like the local domains ".uk, .us., .ro, etc" that should be used by the local countries, still half of them are not used by them.

So, should we stick on the .mobi or .org?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stylez:
I totally see your point as @ least here we can clean things up get them sorted, you made me think and that's a definate that all of us as chefs and members would need to think about along with Razva and see what the plan is and if it benefits without being a review site or having XDA panel of reviewers peeps who know the snizzle ;) I.D.K :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Razva:
You, I think the same. I don't want to give myself a full-day job LOL, so comments will be restricted only to registered members or they will be CLOSED. We can try to leave them open just to registered members and if they get pesky, we'll close them down and end of story.

It's our website, nobody forces us to keep comments on it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Razva:
I think I've found a perfect theme for our website!

http://deluxethemes.com/comfy/

Business, World, Entertainment, etc - could be the most popular chefs/roms, or categories (like "lite ROMs, wm6.1 ROMs, wm6.5 ROMs, whatever categories) so in that way the user will have a very fast look on the latest stuff.

Without all those ads, the theme looks really decent and pro!

What do you think?

Later edit: or those cats could be devices, if we think on a larger scale? Many of you cook not just for Kaiser, but for other devices also. What do you think?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] drearg:
who knows. maybe on to something but you could still run into the same problem that stylez wuz commenting on earlier? I'm new to alot of this but I see both sides of the coin.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bjlandt:
my vote is for .org
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] netpoi:
sound like a great idea. hope to see your site running soon
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Razva:
Folks, I'm having a difficulty choosing the right "theme".

I have three ideas:

1) http://www.themescloset.com/demo/technologic/ <- please EXCLUDE the first 3 "FEATURED ARTICLE" boxes. The ideea is to have the main 3 categories (WM6, WM6.5 and Others) on the 3 boxes (TECHNOLOGY, GAMING, CARS) and below the roms as they are posted. So, the user can see the latest ROMs in his category than the streamline.

2) http://www.wpzoom.com/zenko/demo/ <- this is a "typical" portal. The most recent roms, some "featured" ROMs, the most popular ROMs and bellow the 3-4 main categories (BUSINESS»/WM6.5, POLITICS»/WM6.1, TECHNOLOGY»/etc etc).

3) http://deluxethemes.com/comfy/ <- this theme is made for more than 3 categories. The idea is obvious, show the last X ROMs in X category. Still, I'm wondering if...we'll have so many categories... If we're talking about all HTC devices, for sure this would be the solution, as the categories right now should be the devices. But right now...I don't know if the other chefs, from other devices, would post their ROMs so...it's kinda risky...make a website with just one category active.

In my opinion I would choose "option 2", but it would be very nice to hear other opinions also... So what do you think?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ai6908:
I kinda like #3...;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stylez:
And me...... ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Razva:
Me also but...what categories can we have... On the "demo site" you can see 8 main categories. I can think at only...3...

Can you help me out here? I'm really tired after a full work day...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] brandonmangan:
This looks like a great idea, I know links to plenty of file directories with various roms and cabs alike but it would be great to have an updated definitive source. Also the upgraded GUI would be nice for aesthetics. If it's going to be multifaceted I like #2.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] nikolz:
i vote for .org
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] twopumpchump:
so what are you using for the site, phpnuke? just curious lol. any of those themes are fine with me, and the categories, ect can all edited to what you want in the code im sure. i havent told anyone but before i got into cooking roms i made websites lol...ive forgotten alot but maybe i can help some if i have time. i agree about multidevices since i cook for fuze and soon tp2 as well would be nice to have them all on one site.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] S.V.I:
symbiotic relationships

I would like to stress the interdependency between XDA HTC MICROSOFT and our OPERATORS.

WE get updated software

MS gets feedback and ideas

HTC gets feedback ideas and testers

OPERATORS have help with tech support

This is an unspoken symbiotic relationship that prevents cooks and users from getting sued.

In adition to XDA there are other forums (that are not as successful) and all have their own issues.

If there is a way to post comments on your new website, I am worried that it will just turn into a forum for end users and we will not get a lot of the necessary feedback to fix our roms (neither will the other parties including end users)

...Yet...

Polls are enabled on this forum. However, in my experience, people who post something positive or negative do not leave a comment; so if you enable poling, I would like to have the voter leave a comment with it. This would be mandatory, and would be the only way to leave a comment. This would also prevent the new site from becoming a forum... because we already have one.

I think that this is a wonderful idea and as long as it does not impose on XDA I will be happy to participate and post all of the Wizard roms that I cooked as well as release a Kaiser rom or two. Maybe even a TP2 in about 6 months or so.

What about your operational costs? You can't moderate the thing your self... not enough hours in a day. Who will maintain order in the anonymous chaos that might ensue... some speak different languages (English and English that is not spoken on TV:))

These are my concerns. I like the idea, But I don't want to see nasty comments anywhere else but here:D

P.S.

I like the technologic theme, but without the slideshows. I use opera mini and the slideshows don't show up in it. on the laptop I can actually hear the cpu! it takes a while to load through GPRS (T-mo)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] oscarbum:
I only mention it because it wasn't mentioned elsewhere in the thread, but this is a pretty good site.

http://kaiserroms.blogspot.com/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dhomas:
Great idea!

I think this is a great idea! I think the chefs do a tremendous job cooking up all these ROMs for us, but it is a little difficult to find what features and issues are present in the current release. Hopefully, this would help to organize everything.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] hummy15:
I agree number two is good
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Razva:
Thanks for your feedback!

XDA-DEV will be the ONLY website who will be advertised in the first place. Nobody will ask anything from XDA! XDA will ALLWAYS be advertised, for free, on this website. This is a rule! We'll NEVER forget from where all started, and where was, is and will still be the core of ROM cooking! :)

Btw, should we use HTCroms or XDAroms? I don't want to have any troubles with xda-developers, no way, but still...htcroms sounds like a little ad for HTC. So, should we use XDAroms or HTCroms?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Razva:
I'm back, sorry for the inactivity :)

So, where we remained? Oh yes, XDAroms or HTCroms. What's your vote?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] htc_3400:
I vote for:

1. htcroms

2. .org

3. Option 3 from the schemes

Actually. Hold on. Does anyone flash any other non-HTC ROM and post it here? If that is the case, then i go for 'xdaroms.org'. If all ROMs are for HTC devices, then 'htcroms.org'
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Razva:
Well...99% of xda-dev is for HTC, still the owners choosed Xda, from MDA, PDA, etc...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] htc_3400:
mmm...lets go for xdaroms then :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] MAMeingast:
Isn't this exactly what you guys are looking for?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Razva:
Yes, seems that BowPay made the website without letting us know, exploiting my idea.

BowPay - you should at least have the decency and say "thanks for the idea". Seesh...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] MAMeingast:
I don't think he exploited your idea... He probably didn't even know about the discussion here... ;) It's more of a coincidence!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bowpay:
I had no clue that this was being discussed 100% appologies for my ignorance. I am just trying to help I am tired of spending a lot of time in forums without figuring out which roms would work best for me. Others have expressed the same issue and so I just decided that maybe I could start archiving the roms and little by little this website got bigger.

I use to own a few larger DSS satellite websites ;) and loved the community. Now that is long gone so finding a new community like this that is mostly legit lol is a very rewarding hobby.

I didn't read the whole thread yet but I want to play along so if you have any problems or ideas or think I am a MF, hopefully not :(, then please let me know so I can try to make it better.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bowpay:
Hey guys what about helping me with the site? I am very open to new ideas and would love to add news posters, mods, admins, feature requests etc....

:)

btw my 3 year old daughter wanted to add a smiley lol
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] MAMeingast:
That's cute! :)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Haque:
Hi!

I have upgraded my Uni with 128MB RAM. I understand that there is extra provision for additional RAM on UNI. Can anybody confirm that the two 64MB RAM chips from Blue Angel can be used on the free space available on Uni and can it be upgraded to 256MB RAM.

Feed back and guidance needed in this respect.

Regards,

Haque
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] -Jonny-:
People seem to be saying it's not possible. That 128MB is the maximum. However I remember being around in the forum when people were saying you couldn't upgrade to 128MB and others found a way to do this.

I think this would need a reply from someone who knows the hardware better. (Me, I'm still wondering what the two blank spaces could be used for... and for when someone builds a small GPS chip that can be plugged somewhere inside my Uni!!... dream on!).
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] tomal:
Those blank spaces are for GPS chip, which HTC didn't include. You can install the chips but it will not work because a radio rom with GPS FW has never been released for Uni.

regards
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] enigma1nz:
Damn, I saw that Tomal replied and hoped that I will come to this thread and he'll say something along the lines of 'Yes, we successfully installed 2 128Mb RAM chips and I am testing them now with a new ROM, will let you all know how it went and offer an upgrade to people who want to get one' :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Even my Elf can pinpoint my location on Google Maps, my Uni can't. Outrageous :mad:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Win_XP:
Some time ago I have a chat conversation with one russian guy (Mo3ulla) and he has 256 RAM on the Uni (bga chips from notebook) and running Windows CE (custom port, never comes to public), so it seems it's possible, but not for public :)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] orb3000:
A light!!

Well,

If that is actually true there is hope that can be done!!

Hope someone can publish this soon!

I´ll ask mo3ulla

Thanks for the tip,
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] -Jonny-:
Interesting reading this thread - especially this post

I don't know if the guys are still around - it was only 18 months ago.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] rajivshahi:
Well i would think someone will get the way around to get it done .....
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] tomal:
May be you are right.

But if something is not published publicly then it may not be fully true....just my thought.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] beast0898:
Mamaich did the original work on patching the Kernel to allow access to the 128mb ram, if bigger chips are available for the two slots then there is no reason why the memory can't be further upgraded, it would however require another kernel update to allow access to the extra memory.

The same goes for the GPS slot, if someone was willing to install the GPS chip and patch the radio stack, there's no reason why the Uni couldn't have a GPS chip.

The only problem you have is that the Uni has been around for far too long now and all the Guru's have moved on to other devices.

Try convincing someone to spend months patching an old device to have the features already available in newer devices............ you would be better inserting a new mainboard into the Uni chasis........:rolleyes:

Cheers,

Beasty;)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] orb3000:
Thanks for your clarification Beasty!

Well, I would love to convince a master to do this hard task, just want to know who can be a candidate.

And on the other hand we should rise a nice donation so we can encourage him!

I offer myself to rise the money to convince him/her

So any recomendation is welcome!

Later I´ll set up a new thread for the donation in case this makes any positive progress.

Cheers,
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] -Jonny-:
I'd certainly donate towards anyone getting GPS inside my Uni if it helped. However, I think as Beasty says, I don't think it's going to be money, but someones time.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] orb3000:
Time is not a problem as long as somebody really want to go deep in it

I can wait the longest as it takes and I´ll be just a happy pacient Uni user!

$ can incentivate

Let´s how all this move forwards...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] beast0898:
You will be hard pushed to find a candidate willing to take on this task for you.

There are not many developers here who are capable of both the hardware and software modifications required.

Don't get me wrong, there are some very good devs in these forums, but this sort of mod requires a lot of low level hardware and software knowledge.

Your best chance if you really are serious about trying to find someone to do this is head over to Darkforces and make a post there.

Really you would need Mamaich, Ivan or Helmi (to mention a few.....if you can track them down) as they are all more than capable of what you want.

To be honest though, you probably have more chance of getting HTC to do it for you..............

It would still be easier to port a new mainboard into the Uni housing (more than enough room in there for most of the current devices on the market to fit............... perhaps you should also consider this as it is a more practical move than trying to upgrade a dying device.

I love my Uni as much as the rest of you guys here, but there comes a point when you just have to move on.

Over the years we have patched the hell out of the kernel and drivers for the Uni and to be honest the code is quite a mess now, far from optimised.

Good luck and keep this thread updated with any news you have on progressing this issue as I would be very interested if you found someone willing to take on this challenge.

I know first hand how messy all the drivers and patched oem files and XIP are in the Uni and it will be a monumentous task.

Cheers,

Beasty;)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] ultravox:
Beasty is right, as we all know, but if we take in account what was written in Orb's thread about Uni vs new devices there are a lot of us that are not satisfied with the performance/cost of the latest, me included.

How can it be possible to release a device and i can't even play avi with it?

Runing the same apps on both devices, I can't notice a real improvement in terms of speed. memory we know that's short...

My HD is nice, but as I told, I would prefer the Uni with 256, even being a lot bigger.

Unfortunately we (Uni) suffer from oldness, and we will have to move on...:(
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] beast0898:
I agree the current Qualcomm chipsets are not up to par, mainly down to driver issues rather than the hardware. Don't forget our Uni's run off an Intel XScale and not a Qualcomm.

1st quarter of next year should see some decent releases of the new hardware Tegra and Snapdragon with 12mp cams, 1 ghz cpus and video recording at 720p, perhaps then the Uni will finally have a decent replacement.

I must say though that my Rhodium is no slug, the keyboard is nice and big more than enough ram (GPS is functional, though not great it does the job satisfactorily) I can't really say I miss the Uni that much after switching over to the Rhodium................ each to their own.

Hold out till next year and be tempted with the new hardware.

Cheers,

Beasty
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] kerda:
Does the Qualcomm have a serial or USB port (USB host)? I have no idea but I know that much older chips did have (Intel StrongArm in HP Jornada for example - but was not used and also PXA250 have it). If yes and if it can be found somewhere on the PCB of the UNI, then this can be used for GPS connection, or something else. Just an idea....
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] beast0898:
Both the Qualcomm and XScale can support USB host, they just require the correct drivers, the functions are available just need to be accessed via a driver. The problem the Uni has is that it has no built in GPS Chip, there is a placeholder on the mobo for a GPS chip, it was just never added. There were rumours that some of the very early Uni's (G3) had a chip but not activated.......... Personally I have never seen proof of this.

You can still use external GPS on Uni (as many do) via BT or USB/Serial connection. You do not need USB Host service for this function.

Cheers,

Beasty
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] hunter79:
Why try to upgrade Uni while has HTC X7500, X7501 and X7510

Let buy them...! (":')...!

See :

http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=474
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] enigma1nz:
Because we like our Unis....?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] orb3000:
I second this!!

Universal one of the best devices ever:cool:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] rsawoseyin:
Uni vs Athena/Advantage

I think you miss it. I own both the Uni and the X7510. I can tell you that the X7510 cannot take the place of the Uni in usability. I find the hardware keyboard of the X7510 somewhat awkward to use. I have a number of soft keyboards for the X7510 but they are all handicapped by the lack of hardware navigational key - when you need to move your cursor to another line, it is a pain with the soft keyboards. The X7510 cannot really be considered a pocket device - it is simply too big for the pocket. If it had a hardware navigation key, I could completely dump its hardware keyboard. In any case, note that the X7510 comes with 128MB RAM - which is already commonly available with Uni.

After upgrading my Uni to 128MB, I find it closest to the ideal PocketPC/Phone. I advise HTC to rethink and re-launch the Uni with exactly the same form factor, but with the following improvements:

256MB RAM

Faster processor

A cover for the SD card slot (to prevent easy pop-out)

A more secure stylus holder

GPS

Better quality camera
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] rajivshahi:
I second that but if they make that sort of device who's gonna buy the device that is launched after that... it will be simply like hitting "AXE IN YOUR OWN FOOT":eek::eek::eek:... Our uni is still competing and wining with many new models function wise so that should be enough headache for them... so i think it's not gonna happen...:o:o:o
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] beast0898:
I did email HTC once to enquire why certain functions and spec were missing from certain devices and not others. The reply was along the lines that if they made a device that had everything everyone wanted even at a huge cost to the user it would damage the remaining product line, which is a fair enough statement. We cannot expect to have a business device that is also capable of excellent multimedia or other functions found on other devices.

That's why we are all here on XDA Devs, to modify our devices to provide the functionality that we need/want that the manufacturers do not include in the device in it's stock shippable format.

Cheers,

Beasty
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] phezthie:
greetings!

the problem is, most of our great chefs and mods left or otherwise abandoned Uni's dev as they, borrowing the language of one who happened to be one of the best uni rom cookers ever :D:D, preferred to move on.

although some of the best rom cookers stayed, kudos to orb on his power of persuasion and encouragement :), and relatively few returned to share their wares of which we are grateful, same applause to them of course :D:D, i humbly submit that uni's survival for both ROM and hardware dev is on the dying state given the prevailing circumstances, a shattering reality that we need to accept sooner if not now. without them, certainly, HTC will not realize its mistake in discontinuing uni's support and development.

Till then, nonetheless, history will tell how our universal surpassed all ppc era.

regards to all....

phezthie
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] rajivshahi:
I'd say they were smart enough to discontinue Uni... otherwise most of there new BLING BLING (models) would be just staying in the shop floor... Uni was the best gift for us and the biggest headache for HTC.... because of its superiority and as we can see how it has surpassed such a long era... while lots of devices don't even make it to couple of years before getting replaced...

:o:o:o