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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] kiint:
on Verizons website, it says the TP2 uses a Qualcomm MSM7600A Processor, 528MHz...is this faster/better than the 7200A?

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...t&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=4998
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cmd512:
Yes, there are plenty of phones out there that have better "numbers" than the TP2. Even the Toshiba snapdragon device has nicer "numbers" than this phone. But, ACTUALLY play with one, and you'll soon realize there is more to phone comparisons than just the "numbers GAME."
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Madcypher:
Is a Ferrari worth it over a Porsche?! :-)

Loooovee it!!! It was such an upgrade for me tho (came from MDA from 3 years ago!).

Paid full TMo price and don't regret a penny of it. Everything I've alwasy wanted in a WinMo phone with the exception of a 3.5mm jack and just slightly better video recording frame/bit rate.

100% satisfied customer.

Cyph
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sdlopez83:
Yes I know I get it. I know these phones front and back, Like the gentleman said before the b7610 is just a better phone. Plus the GUI (widgets) are not bad. So hardware + GUI make it a sick phone. I never made mention of the Toshiba. That was just said by a member to counter my argument that I am not happy with HTC for what they have not done. Ever pick up an Iphone 3gs. Thats how a phone should be. No need for roms as its amazing at the go. And no need to explain to me how about numbers vs gui works because htc is lacking in both... Better yet blown away by the iphone in GUI. This is a **** phone that is just a buffer between what will be coming out next year. You will not even be able to upgrade to WM7 with the TP2. So if your looking to lock in with a 2 year agreement, be aware that the wm series will explode next year. You have tegra chipsets which are already in the HTC lineup. Intel is going to join in on the fun as well developing for the mobile experience. Keep in mind that up until this year, smartphones where at there infancy. Iphone is the standard, which is a high standard to beat. Until now Microsoft has not been very involved in the wm scene. However, MS has concentrated all efforts in mobility. Windows 7 will go all out to beat this thing, so the obviously hardware bar will have to raise no matter what.

I would too! You are coming from 3 year old technology! Wonder if you might have the same qualcom chipset as the TP2, Kaiser, Titan!? You might . Which brings me to my point HTC is **** when it comes to offering "numbers".
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sayoonarachue:
pros:

wvga!!

resistive touch screen is a plus for me! where i live, it gets real cold in the winter and with a capacitive touch screen....i can't use it in the winter while outside without taking off my gloves!

the speaker is loud!

its HTC, fantastic build quality and user interface

5 row qwerty keyboard

ability to access microsd slot (tmobile only)

cons:

can't really think of any right now, maybe the fact that the tmobile version doesn't have a dock available yet...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sdlopez83:
Great point I forgot how ****ty the capacitive screen can be in the winter.

I believe they HTC is working on a capacitive/ resistive hybrid to incorporate the stylus. Forgot on what device I read that from.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mets3214:
resistive screens can support multi touch.

search stantum multi touch on youtube. and they r super sensitive

hope wm 7 uses that.

i have a xperia x1 and a htc touch hd. i have had an omnia that i recently sold. i was thinking about selling my xperia x1 and htc touch hd and get a touch pro 2.

all the touch hd has over the touch pro 2 is the camera, little bigger screen and its thinner, lighter and has a 3.5 mm headphone jack. i dont need to listen to music on the device cuz i got a zune hd.

touch pro 2 has many things over the hd.

it has a more sensitive screen, colors are more vibrant on the screen, keyboard, better speakers, touchflo 3d 2, screen tilts, zoom bar, the keys on front arent touch sensitive, and its faster overall.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cmd512:
Good points all around, but the key here is... Do you really expect to keep your phones for 2 years? I can tell you, my last business Nokia phone did actually last me two years (very rare), but it was on its last leg both performance and appearance wise. I didn't beat the hell out of it because I was careless, it just got ALOT of use.

From my point of view, I should have retired that Nokia a long time ago, but nothing out in the industry interested me... until the TP2. Physical keyboard + large WVGA screen + manageable thickness... exactly what I needed.

It's funny you should mention the 3Gs. My director JUST picked one up yesterday, and at work, he started getting it up and running. Oh snap, then he realized he can only put ITunes on one computer as Apple makes sure your 3Gs isn't sync'd all over the place. I just chuckled as he grumbled... then told him welcome to the Steve Jobs borg collective. :)

I like my customize-ability. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely respect Apple and its products for the simple fact that it pushed the envelope of what a mobile device can do. In fact, I'm surrounded by Apple freaks (sis, gf, brother-in-law, etc). But, beyond all the aesthetics, the simple truth is that it's a consumer friendly device, meaning that it's made for the lowest common denominator, that Apple is trying its best to tout as a real smartphone. At the end of the day, it's not for me and what I want in a real full powered smartphone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sdlopez83:
I agree on most accounts, and dont get me wrong i will admit that I am anti-apple. However, one must give credit where credit is due. 3gs is supperbly built. It is hard for winmo enthusiasts to admit it. Not much to modify when you get it pretty close to right the first time. (arguably) The old iphone was for the less technical, but the 3gs If you fiddle with it for a day. you will find that it is an amazing phone. It has drawbacks but not many. I disagree It IS totally a smartphone, may be the best out atm. Albeit, trying to do its best to tout as a real business phone.

We all like "customize-ability" which is the main reason we have a membership to this great site. For arguements sake, ok there is nothing better than a TP2, now if you will excuse me I have a Yanks-Redsox game to see.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] surbringer:
I am currently into a big dilemma: should I switch from my iPhone 3g to the HTC TP2?.

I could get my hands on a new unlocked euro version for 600 can$ (549 USD).

The ability to use an efficient office suite, the full qwerty keyboard, the capacitive screen (canadian winter + iphone = frozen fingers) and the multitasking power of windows mobile are the main reasons I would switch for the TP2.

I heard that call quality was better on the TP2 than on the iPhone, is it true? This is one of the main factors that would make me switch.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sdlopez83:
Don't know why it is not available in canada yet. But as per your question on call quality. The beauty about "customize-ability" for HTC phones is that you do not have to subject yourself to one radio. You can pick and choose and flash different radios which may or may not affect your call quality depending on where you are. you have to try them out and see which one works best for you.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Shasarak:
My last phone was a Sony Ericsson T39m, which I bought not that long after it first came out. So I must have had it for about 8 years.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] solsearch:
Yeah, my last phone lasted for almost 4 years. That's one reason why paying full un-subsidized prices doesn't hurt so much. It's a long-term investment.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rorytmeadows:
http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones...7-33738108-1.html?tag=userReviews;summaryList
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] yawdadzie:
pls pls pls can someone help me make my wifi the default internet source.....so that i'll not use my sim internet.:confused:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Man.:
To stop your phone from connecting to the internet whilst using your credit disable HSDPA.

Go to

All Settings

Connections

Advanced Network

Disable

Man.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] ArtieQ:
Would like to have a thread where people gave their thoughts and stuff why they bought a D2 instead of some other device and so on. So let me start of here:

I upgraded from Diamond to Diamond 2 because the screen is bigger, it got memory card, it got 4 much better hardware keys and the D-Pad is gone (I hated it on my Diamond). Also because it got more RAM and memory built in than the Diamond.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] tracksuit:
my first winmo phone was an O2 Flame. massive bulky thing, though it sported a nice big 640x480 screen.

id briefly used a touch pro through work and i loved manila and also the great aesthetic design of their phones... well most of them. after pouring over the specs of the phones in my budget it came down to 2 devices, the HD and the D2.

in the end i went with the d2 as the main difference was screensize. having previously done the whole GIANT PHONE thing, i turned to the D2 as it packed the same punch in a slightly more compact and classy frame. dont get me wrong, the blackstone looks sharp, but with its all black design its a bit plain for me. nothing compared to a little brushed metal here and there.

i'm mighty impressed with the phone so far, extremely clean and crisp screen, fast fast fast, great video playback etc. and although it sounds funny, it feels like you get your moneys worth because its a solid little brick to hold. none of this flimsy plastic nokia stuff. not only does it feel good but its taken a beating. ive dropped it countless times during my drunken shenanigans and so far its got a slight split in the digitiser between the 'H' in the htc logo in the top left corner and the frame, and a few dints in the metal casing. still works a treat.

another good thing, which should also apply to the blackstone, is that the two devices are similar enough that alot of community built software that will work on one, works on the other with minimal or no tweaking. this gives us access to much more apps/customisation/themes than we could normally expect from a device that has unique hardware/software
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] steve1221:
I've been using a Dell Axim x50 for years and symbian phones (Noika's).

Just got sick of carrying two units around (and I could get a sim free TD2 from work for 100 quid, I'd be daft not too).

Getting tomorrow morning and I've got the afternoon off to play with it, flash a few cooked roms and load lots and lots of pointless software I'll never use (as usual...)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] prabhat:
Love this WM

I have used S710 before and lost that. Also used HTC Touch for few days :). Since then I am in love with WM phones.

I opted for TD2:

1) One of the BEST WM phone that I could get in my budget.

2) Bigger screen

3) Better touch

4) Upgrade for WM 6.5 will be FREE (May be WM 7 will work on this ;) )

5) Better H/W (CPU, RAM, Available Free space etc)

6) GPS is inbuilt + has 3G + FM Radio

7) Last but NOT last, it is from HTC :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] rodney.offord:
Upgrade from P3400

I had an HTC P3400 Gene for 2 years and the time came for an upgrade.

My criteria were:

It had to be HTC

It had to have GPS, WIFI, 3g, Touchscreen

The Diamond 2 was the right solution at the right time at the right price!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Anarkin:
This is my first handheld device

I think this one includes every new technology, including the ones mentioned above this post

I cant wait for the new free 6.5 + manila 2.5 update :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Fru T Bunn:
... because it told me to.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] ozmbie:
I went backpacking around Europe for 5 weeks (great fun!), but before I left I wanted a new phone with Wifi & GPS.

I watched some Touch Diamond 2 reviews and I really liked the interface and some of the stuff you can do with WinMobile. I was sold!

- Bored on a 13 hour flight? Watch some TV shows!

- Lost in Spain at 3am? Use TomTom to find the hostel!

- Want to share photos from Croatia? Find a wifi hotspot!

- What does that sign mean? Use Google Translate!

- Lost a printed copy of your booking? Open the PDF backup!

This phone made backpacking too easy ;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] fasnul03:
Best winmo phone I've ever used!!

I had the original HTC Touch (ELF) and really liked its form factor but it was kinda slow.

I then bought the Samsung Omnia but was really disappointed with it's performance. Really bad lag on the Omnia.

I then saw the review for the D2 and was really impressed with the performance. Just had to have it. Takes great pictures too.

Beats the Omnia by a mile.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] mangokun:
previous previous phone is nokia 7610 which sucks because of it physical keypad.

previous phone is htc touch (elf) which attracted me because it is mainly touch screen and windows mobile has a wide selection of applications.

it served me well although little internal disk space and ram.

upgraded to topaz, because of xda-developer community, which has selfless cooks like NRGZ28(EnergyROM), windows mobile 6.5, good hardware, good battery(can last around 1.5 day), and time to trade in my old phone for a new one.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] luigug:
Before I had the htc P3300 a very good and complete pda, but my actual htc D2 is better than P3300 for all points of view:

- camera

- display (size, sensibility and risolution)

- rom e ram size

- general performances

- 3g connectivity

- form factor

- software included.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Limlin:
Actually I started to love D2 because of its default wallpaper. It's a pic of fire and at the first look it looks like a phoenix. Really beautiful! And then I started to know this phone. Big touch screen, GPS, WIFI, 3g, and more beautiful than Diamond. So I got it.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Ckth:
TD2 or Ominia 2? Ominia 2 actually has got better specs.

Bought TD2 as I used to own a Himalaya which lasted 4 yrs. But I was dead wrong as my TD2 earpeice died within 2 weeks.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] ArtieQ:
Omnia may have better specs, but HTC has always been a clear choice for me, I never liked Samsung or any other carrier. And who uses the original headset anyway? :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Richard Fantom:
I had 5 or so Palm organisers, but left Palm behind and jumped to Windows Mobile about 3 years ago when Palm were unable to offer a reasonably compact phone/organiser. Never needed a keyboard, but wanted wi-fi, bluetooth and hi-res screen in a compact package. HTC with TouchFlo seems the best ergonomics so went for the TD2 (Topaz).
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Pitchb3nd:
My first smartphone was the Diamond 1 and it's possibilities and this forums really blew my mind.

TD2 was the natural upgrade, more screen size, ram etc. and overall SMALL SIZE. I still miss a good camera with flash and TVout, those two features would make the phone perfect.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] edoftech:
my td2

i had the htc touch, like it, but went onto the sony p1

loved the p1 but it was getting old (i still use it every so often)

but liked the look of it

was going for the pre, but the constant delay, annoyed me so i got this and love it
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] yuanes:
Because i liked the Elf, Polaris, Diamond, and now the Diamond2 :cool:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Miguel-:
Had qtek 9100 previously and after that I had Hermes for almost 2 and a half years -that got old (and I got it paid) so I searched for a new phone. Looked at Touch HD but it was way too expensive compared to TD2 (altough I would have liked the 3.5mm headphone plug).
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Barff1984:
the reason i bought a TD2

I was naive

honestly...it's the worst phone i've ever had

Ever since getting one, i always hated the Iphone and would always slag people off if they had one...but you know what...I bow my head in shame and confess that i should've got one.

Iphone waste too much money on tv adverts...they should just make that says

''The Iphone....Atleast it works'' because it does.

My TD2 is absolutely useless...I've had it for about 4-5 months

It just doesn't work most the time. Or it crashes loads. Or just does stupid things that i don't tell it too

The battery is also useless...

If someone says their battery lasts longer than 1 day with normal usage...they are LYING! and lots of other people will agree.

At first, when they said the battery would last 4-5 days, i was teasing all the iphone users because they get max 2 days...but now i keep the fact that my battery is useless a secret. because theirs is better.

I've tried TF3d and SPshell but at the end of the day a pig with make up on is still ugly.

It's really the worst phone i've had (and i've had a lot) and i will never be going back to HTC

now that iphone has hspda...i can't think of a reason why not to get one. At least it works!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Overloaded:
Well, my Touch Diamond2 works really PERFECT..

And my battery last for

2 days

with normal use (and i don't

LIE

)

Normal use:

Listening to music with earplugs ~2Hours a day

Updating weather every hour

About total 30 minutes internet use every day (wifi and 3G/HSDPA)

Some texting (SMS) ... i actually never call people :eek:

And i play some games sometimes (teeter, Xtract and others)

And that every day :D:D

And why i bought it:

I think it's the best looking phone there is now

WM6.5 and TF3D are very customizable, unlike the iphone with the lame bunch of icons

My first HTC phone, my next one will be HTC too :D i like it and they make good phones

Pretty fast

And lots more reasons..... :p
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] gkai:
At the time I bought it (4 month ago) it was the only phone with a high-def screen (WVGA) and a small-medium form factor.

I also prefer WinMo right now, best customization and a lot of freeware available. Strangely, it is the most open platform at the moment, even better than android (I guess this will change in the future). The fact that I can install the application I want without going through proprietary store and provider network is very important for me, so no iPhone (which is too large and has not the same superb screen resolution anyway).

Right now, I would have had more troubles: some Samsung seems to fit the bill, at it seems that the new generation of WinMo phones will have more beefy processor and the same WVGA resolution, so my choice would be larger....

But still, many of those new phones emphasize larger screens, which are shiny and nice....but not for me: I want a ĥone small enough to fit in all pockets, not something that suffer from tablet-envy...So the 3.2 inches of the TD2 are perfect, new models could go to 3.5'' maybe if they manage ultra-thin frames, but no larger for me...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Way2go:
My reason for buying the TD2?

I've been using a JAMin for the last 3 and a bit years and felt it was time - or well past time - to upgrade. Definitely wanted a bigger screen (as the unit doubles as my GPS in the car, etc.) and first choice was the HD to get the 3.8" screen - but the device was just too big. Liked the 3.6" screen on the Pro2, but again the device was bigger and heavier than the JAMin and I don't need a physical keyboard.

So, for the bigger (than 2.8") and higher def screen, faster CPU, more memory, SDHC slot, A2DP, lighter/narrower/thinner than the outgoing JAMin, 3G (on 900/2100Mhz as that's what my carrier uses) it came down to the TD2. Built-in GPS was also a requirement, so I didn't have to carry around my Bluetooth GPS device, and I needed WinMo to run OziExplorer.

Only had it for a week, and not regretting my decision one bit. I didn't have a single problem with the JAMin until about a month ago (which gave me the excuse to convince SWMBO that an upgrade was finally a requirement, not just a 'want'), and am expecting the same from the TD2.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Barff1984:
you seem to have miss quoted me there...perhaps you don't want to admit the truth

i was saying TD2 is useless...hence why this forum has so many people say ''problems with GPS/volume/lock/start up/unlock/restart/battery''...the list goes on.

When an iphone is released at least they get it right and don't have half as many problems. if they do, it would be a problem on every handset and would be rectified quickly. where as the TD2 seems to come off the production line with a different fault on each item. It's not exactly what you want after spending the money on it.

Like i said. I used to be very Anti Iphone however next year, when i come back from Afghanistan i will be buying myself an Iphone 4g. because ANY winmo device is useless
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Barff1984:
oh and also, i still don't believe you that your td2 goes 2 days without a charge...or at least plugged into usb at some point for a quick 30 minutes
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] DeathJester:
I've used my Topaz with BasicGPS (Geocaching utility, but used for route mapping by GPS coordinates) over a weekend in the Peak District. That's two days radio traffic with constant loss of signal (meaning more ticks for signal aquisition).

There are no USB ports on the peat bogs up Kinder Scout.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Miguel-:
I took a trip at last weekend to a spa and didnt take a charger with me. I used google maps for navigation to there and at there for finding food places around, I also used internet atleast a hour or so at there. It was a bright and sunny a couple of days and the screen was at brightest almost all the time (Im using autolight v2). When I got home and went to bed (and put the phone on charger) the battery said 23% -I think that its pretty good with that use without usb plugs ;) .

Anyways Im happy with my phone and its getting better and better with newer roms :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] robinsonsam:
He's lying! there are usb ports all over the peak district, usually found under rocks though, so you gotta look for them :P

Anyway, I got my TD2 as the company i work for recieves every Orange UK 14 Day returned handset and Corporate Trial handset in the UK, and i get to "play" with any phone i could imagine. Spent a day messing about with a TD2 and TP2 then came to the conclusion that i had to get a TD2.