yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GSLEON3:
Issues, Bugs & complaints...

Firsly, for all of you lazy people, search & get a clue. How so many can be either so lazy or so moronic just blows me away.

Yes, I hate bugs & I do believe anyone that publicly publishes a rom does have some responsibility to his users & donators. NRG is not just doing this as a hobby, making roms for so many different devices brings in donations. Not a killing, but I personally have had years where my donations have added up to several thousand dollars & that was working with only two device models.

But the bottom line is this community is about working together to make things better, at least that is how it used to be. But now chefs try to protect everything even more so than HTC or MS does & you have 100 people complaining or pointing out flaws for every 5 that actually help to solve issues or create fixes.

For all of you talking about manila internet tab shortcuts not working, a simple search would have TAUGHT you something new about manila & taught you how to fix or change the links to anything you want.

Some Manila files are scripts, some are images & some are simple (very simple) xml files. To fix the internet shortcuts, or to change them as you like, find the file 27c65cbd_manila in windows & copy it to your pc.

This is a simple xml file. Open it with notepad or the xml editor of your choice. Once the file is open the fix process is blatantly obvious. Make your changes, disable manila/sense and then put the file back into the windows folder on your device. Restart Manila & voila, everything works.

Now go & read, start with the blue angel & hermes forums. See the progression of the tools & learn to help yourself & others. If all you ever do is take, then you truly are still not a member of this community. There are many tools available to you. you can fix issues in roms or go cook your own. It's really not that hard to learn & many items have written or video tutorials.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] epileptic:
Thank you so much! I clicked use default and even though my wallpaper didnt change, nothing changed at all, except now the weather works.

Why not just have it work out of the box?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
BRAVO and Well Said!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
Now that is a question for NRG. If you don't like the default but want to keep the animated weather, go over to the 'Themes and Applications' forum there are literally thousands of wall papers that keep the weather working.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] epileptic:
I'm using hdwalls but even before that it didn't work. it works now though and my HDwalls wallpaper is still working too.

as far as asking NRG, thats exactly what a lot of us are trying to do. But instead its been suggested that we all should just read for hours and hours in the hermes forums, and then learn to edit xml files, eventually learning to make our own roms, so we can fix the bugs in his. I donated my hard earned cash to support NRGs roms and what bothers me is that there is no testing by anyone prior to release of a new rom.

I feel like if its included in the rom, the links to it should work, its pretty simple stuff. ANY amount of testing prior to release would find these problems. its just a lack of attention to details?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] surfturtle:
3 Row Start Menu Cab File Anyone?

Hi everyone,

a big thanks to NRGZ28 for another great ROM, i have been using your rom for my Raphael and its amazing.

I have been searching for the 3 Row Start Menu cab file for the Rhodium ROM but I can't seem to find it anywhere.

Could someone please share it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bennyb0y:
Strong and good words! I'm not kidding when I say that.

Thanks for the info on the XML files and other reading resources.

Because this ROM is

SO

popular and used worldwide,

no doubt it behaves differently in different parts of the world

for various Service Providers. Finding the answers to fixing all the bugs

would perhaps take an eternity.

Part of ROM flashing is like ganbling at a Casino... sometimes you have to know when to stop and keep what you have.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Saddi2008:
French MUI

Can you please include french MUI in your ROM? I use it cause there is no valuable french customized ROM .

Great job
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bennyb0y:
Thank you all...

Russ741 I wonder if there is a way to link the Notification Manager

when it receives the Ok from the Service Provider that the Voicemail

message has been received, to also stop the flashing? Once I saw my

T-Mobile stock ROM (on the Hermes) mess up when I came back from

travelling abroad and it would not get rid of the small triangle.

T-Mobile couldn't even sort it and suggested that I either flash the ROM

or swap the phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Kilo G:
Yeah. It just worked briefly for me too. Soon the notification screen took over again. Thanks for your tip about turning off the notification screen. The task manager is more important for me.

// Kilo.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sblindheim:
21877 dec 4 Rom

I just flashed with 21877 dec 4 ROM. The Xperia task manager works as long as no program are running. As soon as I start a program (tested with Total Commander and Solitaire) the notification screen comes on after 0,5seconds. I know this isn't any solution, but maybe a step towards it?:cool:

@NRG:

Is there any possibility to add week numbers to the HTC calendar?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] J-Hop2o6:
Same here, and true about everything u said.. so i downgraded back to Nov 8th (21864) which i think was the last most stable of the 21xxx builds since i read post nov 8th problems
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ddotderek:
can somebody tell me which is the fastest/snappiest 28008 build to date? any opinions?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vgomez916:
language

anyway of getting chinese lang on this rom.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] leepriestenator:
SEARCH!

Check out the link in my signature.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] simbadogg:
i've searched, and searched, and searched...anyone know how to ditch the xperia task switcher completely and revert back to htc task manager?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
I've used all of the 6.5.x builds and think the latest 04Dec09 build is VERY solid, and has the best finger response.

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
I believe that NRG cooked the xperia task switcher into the ROM, I can't check because I am not running that version. Go to Settings-->system--> remove programs. If the xperia task switcher isn't listed, it cannot be removed.

Try the 04Dec09 28008, I have been running it since Dec 4th and have had NO issues with it. This build has quick Menu 2.6 which is much more finger friendly than the xperia one.

Hope this helps.

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nuron:
http://www.energyroms.com/Addons/Return 2 Stock CABs/

I like the Quick Menu better.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] simbadogg:
remove disable xperia task manager

yeah its not there, i just went to the registry settings and deleted the folder that contained all the task manager entries, problem solved.

ahhh thanx, i'll keep this for future reference. unfortunately i just cleared the registry. no biggie.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
@epileptic,

You seem to have some knowledge of software development, testing, etc. If that is the case why don't you send NRG a PM and volunteer to alpha test the ROMs before he releases them here? We don't KNOW that there is no testing, what NRG does with the ROMs before we see them posted here is pretty much a mystery to us. There must be some alpha level testing, that is he must be flashing it to a test unit to at least verify it loads.

You also have to keep in mind that no ROM chef NRG or anyone, has any control over what M$ puts in the OS. If something doesn't work in the OS the chef is pretty much stuck, and have to wait until M$ puts out another release. So some bugs just can't be fixed!

In summary, rather than complaining, try offering to help! And while reading the Hermes and other historical forums might be a bit more than the average user may want to undertake, I do agree that doing some due diligence is critical to understanding the ROM creation process.

Personally I have been flashing, modifying, cooking ROMs since 2003 starting with the Wizard platform. I don't have the time in my current life/job to cook my own, but I do have time to help other XDA members with issues & problems.

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mpicart:
Has anyone else noticed that with the latest build (dec 4th) it uses a new version of htc album. its really great but. when you try and tab over to load up your facebook pictures and attempt to login (similiar to the one where you login for your contact card) it throws you out after you tried logging in?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] epileptic:
Sure, I will PM him and ask to volunteer as a tester as if this a new concept and nobody before me ever offered to do it.

If what he does with the roms is a mystery to you, then how do you know he must flash them to a device? Apparently we are the testers, we flash the roms and we find the bugs. Then when we say hey there's a bug, we are told to stop complaining.

I know windows has problems, but i don't think its Microsoft's fault that when I click the start menu/internet/Opera the Opera link doesn't work.

and I will no longer mention if things don't work because basically if anyone points out that something doesn't work someone else jumps in to say we are complaining. I don't feel that stating something does not work = complaining, but I guess our opinion on this differs.

thanks for your help though, it was appreciated. This 28008 dec 4 rom is damn good, and nrgs roms are probably my favorite. its just annoying that every new fix has a new problem, every update something that used to work stops working. I'm not alone in noticing this, and ive been flashing energyrom since september.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] epileptic:
QUIT COMPLAINING!

lol sorry, but seriously, noone cares. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mpicart:
No, people on here are usually quite helpful. Thanks anyways guys! IT worked after like 6th time trying
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
Look, I think you are overreacting, we tell people to stop complaining when they repeatedly post that they don't like some trivial thing that they themselves can fix/change. "I want this clock back, I don't like that Icon set, etc etc etc" these are the whiners. What most folks do here is report legitimate bugs and issues, what they FAIL to do is read back a few pages to make sure it hasn't been reported 10 times already nor do they make any attempt to find an answer on their own and post a fix. As a former professional software tester, I can tell you that finding a fix is NOT the job of the beta tester! But XDA is really a lot more than just beta testing code for M$ and HTC. I would really like to know how much money and time XDA has saved M$ and HTC over the years by providing what amounts to free labor. Not only do we test the code, in many cases we fix the problem and in the next M$/HTC build the fix that joeschmuckately of XDA found appears in the base code!

As far as NRG doing some testing... I don't know that he loads each of his freshly cooked ROMs up on some test unit, but I can't fathom him not at least verifying that they load. I mean seriously, would you compile a few hundred thousand lines of code into a file and distribute it to the world without at least making sure it would start up? Seriously?

On your Opera comment above, you're right it isn't M$ fault that shortcut doesn't work. And you were correct in reporting it here, however, it had already been reported several times AND a fix posted!!!!! That is why you got reamed not because you 'reported a bug' but because you re-reported a bug and didn't go look to see if anyone had posted a fix for it! Oh and if you want to flame me for saying you should learn how to edit XML, well go for it, I have been flamed by way too many people over my years on XDA to really care a whole lot.

Your second to last paragraph: You won't comment if something doesn't work... See above, YES YOU SHOULD COMMENT after you search to see if there is a posted fix and/or someone else has already posted the bug/issue. Then you should go spend some of your hard earned free time to track down a fix or a pointer to where the fix may be, or anything to HELP SOLVE THE PROBLEM!!!!!!

Your final (for this post anyway) paragraph: there will always be bugs in software, it doesn't matter who's code it is, what platform it runs on, or any of that. When you have 10 teams of 10 engineers in 5 countries writing modules for the same code base, disconnects are going to happen. That is what M$ has working on WM/WP (or that is what I have read at least) so, until they get down to the RC, RTM and finally production versions there going to be continuing cycles of, hey that worked in the last build! Or as we used to say at the software company I worked for: "It worked in the lab...":D

So relax, go have a beer and be grateful you are smart enough to be able to flash ROMs, you have the cash to buy the phone in the first place and you have the free time to sit there and ***** at me.:eek:

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
@mpicart, please excuse epileptic he needs a Midol.

I just tested uploading to facebook from my photo album, and although I didn't know these feature existed (shame on me) it worked fine.

Could you be a bit more specific and perhaps post a screen shot of where you are logging in? Also, you said Dec 4th version, well there are 2 of those so perhaps you could take 3 min and create a signature line for your profile or failing that follow ORB3000's advise and put your current info in the title of your post. ROM ver, date, etc.

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] biscuits1978:
Jesus -- people *****ing and then there are people *****ing about people *****ing. It never ends. People wonder why some users just stay quiet and just flash ROMs without any interaction in the forums. You guys are way too uptight!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Caspertje19:
Been using Energy roms since the diamond.

I must agree with other people that mostly every time something is fixed, some other problems are rising. I don't want to wine, because what NRG can I simply can't.

But maybe it's somehow an idea to make some final rom's. Rom's wich are reported as most stable and bug free(maybe by a poll). I really don't know if this is feasible, because some people report it as bug, while other people don't have the same issues.....

But after all I'm still happy with his rom's. The eye candy combined with speed is what make my tp2 more usable :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] leepriestenator:
@Russ... forget about it. Don't waste your time trying to talk sense into people that just keep whining and complaining. If we all did that this thread would run into about 700 pages. Oh wait... it already has.

@everybody else. Please search. Be informative. Stop leaving the one line posts. Stop assuming that people will know what you are thinking no matter how obvious it may seem to you. You've heard it a million times... we are all here to help and be helped. Please make it easy for people to help you. Is it really so difficult to leave your rom version, build number and release date?

Most importantly... calm the **** down!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cdguider:
Off Topic

It is truly amazing how post can get off topic.

Thank you NGRZ for all your work and roms.

People flash custom roms and want Technical Support!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cookiemon:
Great ROM 28008 Standard

I have to say this ROM is great.It works great for me for the following reason:

Good battery life (10 hours with heavy usage)

My location works very fast (locked in within 2 minutes)

Opera works very well and open web pages fast(1 -2 sec in general)

Wifi works well

Google Map (GPS locked in 4 minutes. Not great but ok)

Outlook mail sync fast

QuickMenu is very cool. (I can close and optimize my programs easily)

Memory usage is around 50% from start up. Even using 85% of the memory, there still no delay. Great Stuff~!!

I installed Droid font myself. Really nothing to complain. :)

My Phone:

AT&T Tilt2 (Rhodium)

ROM: Energy ROM 'Phoenix2' 28008 WP6.5.3 (12.4.2009)

Previous phone:

Iphone 3G

SonyEricsson X1

Blackberry Curve

Nokia E72
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] orb3000:
Manila 2.6!!

Hope soon we have it on NRGZ28 ROM´s!!

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=100347
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hecksk:
ROM 28008 Dec 4

1. Why there is Opera 9 but not 10?

2. Anyone experiances Volume controls issue, why it is not a HTC ??? How to fix it?

In general it really cool ROM!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] 69Pwned:
Just flashed this on my Tilt 2.

Me likey ....... :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xredjokerx:
how can i disable the large title bar?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] oofoof:
ok so i just flashed this rom and am loving it

however for some reason when i download my titanium weather .cab it doesnt show up on the homescreen...

does anybody know y this is or a way to fix it?

thanks any help is appreciated

i also seem to have problem with receiving emails...i can send them but it doesnt show me when a new email comes in or even have it show up when i actually go into my email

if anybody could shine some like on this too it also would b greatly appreciated
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Sorry if I'm misunderstanding, but that's someone else's own theme, not really official "Manila 2.6", isn't it ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Damager:
That looks horrible!

This isnt Manila 2.6.. This is MAX MANILA 2.6, which is a plugin for Manila 2.1/2.5 I believe.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ExCIA:
Standard 4th Dec 21877 ROM

This is probably one of the best ROMs I have seen in a long time. It is quick and light on battery.

I have only one issue where the button on the upper right corner that you check for what background programs are running.

Press it and tell me what happen?

What showed up is the 'Notifications' because maybe the task manager's button is too big and caused to overlap onto the 'Notifications' button.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JBS2:
Just searched around and I believe there is only a CAB voor M2.5.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Darioc:
Call Status

Hi!

I'm using Dec 4 21877 release, for about 3 days, and something strange hapens... somtimes when reciving incoming calls, the call status window doen´t show up! :confused: Then I don´t know who is calling....

I search arround and didn´t found any thread reporting this... since i´m not an expert, can anyone help me??

PS: I haven´t installed any adictional soft yet!! The rom is has released!!! Thanks in advance. ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ind0mi:
got the same thing... everytime when i wanna check which programs are running on background i see the programs for 1 sec. and then it switches over to the notifications.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aboulnasr:
the straight talk dont work on mt Tp2

I'm using Dec 4 21877 release any one can help me
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
I would be happy to help you, if I knew what 'straight talk' was/is ? Could you provide some additional details?

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gimpcell:
If you are in landscape mode, the status window will not show up. Easy way to fix this is by closing the keyboard and keeping the phone upright for about one second. the g-sensor will catch up and boom! there is your screen. Manila is still buggy and I have noticed and fixed the problem by being patient with the phone. it is a computer to say the least. =) let it catch up
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Ramsfan_Jim:
Out of interest, have you tried turning Notification Manager off (there is a cab to do this within 'Tweaks') and seeing if you still have the issue? Notification Manager seems pointless to me anyway.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] agentdr8:
Awesome, that resolved that niggling issue.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Darioc:
Thanks for the tip gimpcell.

But... I made a few tests and still hapens the same. The curious thing it´s the phne not always do that. I'm going to try capture a screen so i can post it here and see if that can help in some way. Thanks again! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dazultra2000:
Noticed some significant hanging going to/from the WM messaging client on the latest 21877.

Press the back button from messaging and nothing happens for a good 25 seconds, and similar when pressing the "All Messages" softkey.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] STraver:
Bluetooth

Has NRG fixed bluetooth in this new release?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] biscuits1978:
Honestly haven't tried flashing any of the 6.5.1 builds yet. Then again, to support your perspective, I haven't heard any raving reviews of it so far.

I totally respect the fact that NRG cooks for so many devices. It's rare to find a chef dedicated to keeping up with all devices they've cooked for in the past and present. I am not trying to ***** and moan about anything, was just wanting a little progress report, that's all.

Totally dig the 2.1 ROM. Any thoughts on making a HDWall cooked in so that NRG's background is on all tabs?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Leechoonhwee:
Hmmm.. I was happy for a while when I read Sep 5th Manila 2.5.... Well I really hope he can just pop in the 2.5 for the adventurous to try. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] janshuizing:
please help

:confused:Can some one help me how an extra folder that I've created can change in an icon such as nrgz28. So I've created an extra folder but that is a standard folder (yellow) is there such program to make icons and how do I then those yellow folder become that pictogram that i make
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kable:
Is there a way to change to folders and icons so that they are four in a row horizontally like 6.1 instead of how they are laid out now?

Thanks,

Edit: Ok, thanks for letting me know. I will learn to love it too then! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ace10134:
No, this is Windows Mobile 6.5. It's the "Honeycomb". More finger friendly. That's the way MS made it, and most love it!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] zdp011:
video call still cannot use

i'm in Australia.

i got HSDPA support here..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dru313:
customRUU keeps crashing after verification notice. help
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ace10134:
Make sure that the folders you saved the downloaded ROM in don't have any special characters (?, %...).

Also, try running the CustomRUU as an Administrator. See if those things work.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rajbsn:
I have installed 09/05 standard and it's working great!! Thanks for the great ROM!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dru313:
Thanks, that did the trick. :D