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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] biscuits1978:
<ugh> -- don't get me wrong, I'm not irritated. I am trying to point out the obvious, and you yourself did this for me with this response.

Using your analogy:

Your hard reset procedure is doing the same thing as what was already done with flashing the ROM. So, under your rationale, how is it ANY DIFFERENT when you are hard resetting your phone compared to a fresh flash of the ROM? When you do a hard reset, (using your analogy) the phone is unpacking the ROM again by the same software application used after a fresh flash. Unless the ROM and phone develop an unlikely attitude and wants to change the way it throws data around in memory, a hard reset is not doing anything different than a fresh flash. So again, I fail to see how a hard reset is doing any good.

Again, if there is something that shows how a hard reset does things differently and for the better (beyond "it just started working after a hard reset") then I'll praise the findings! But for now, it is screaming redundancy.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kiladubz:
thanks for the info, like i said, i stumbled upon DUSK and im really liking it, it goes beautifully with the EnergyRom theme. i think im going to stick with it for a while.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] adoute:
QuickMenu - X button to close apps - build 28008

If this is common knowledge, please ignore this post.

I flashed the 02.Dec.2009 28008 Standard ROM this morning, and have QuickMenu configured to close apps on tapping the X button, minimizing on tap & hold. While the new X button in the lower right corner does not follow QuickMenu's settings, tapping the clock in the upper right corner (where the X button is in 6.5 builds) does - in most applications.

Example - RSSHub. When RSSHub is running, tapping the X button in the lower right corner minimizes it, while tapping the upper right corner (clock) closes the app. Same for Facebook, Google Maps, and many other apps. So far, I have only found one app which this does not work for - PTab.

Anyway, I know I'm not the only person who has posted searching for a way to get the X button to close apps on 6.5.x releases, and this was a great find for me.

Again, if this is common knowledge, please excuse this post.

Thanks to cmd512, and everyone else that provided ideas and assistance in configuring "X button to close apps" in the past.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tofferbear:
disable outlook sms syncing

Does anyone know where this can be disabled.

When I first went to text message I got a pop up asking if I wanted to sync with outlook and I accidentally pushed yes when I intended to push no...now I can't seem to find where to turn this off. Anyone know?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tofferbear:
I found it...in case anyone else wants to know it's under your ActiveSync --> Options (which you can't get to unless you are not plugged into a PC with your sync cable).

There's a checkbox for sync'ing your text messages that once turned off disables it. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] flippy:
Do you have a Link for it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Thanks alot for helping.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kiladubz:
Flippy, Here you go
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tofferbear:
day 1 impressions of 28008

So I flashed this before leaving for home last night...it took me about 40-50 minutes to get the phone completely setup (which is record time for me).

No hickups with the flashing process...loved the new look to the install screens.

No problems at all with syncing the phone up to my PC and exchange server.

Battery life is fantastic. been using it non-stop more or less for about 12 hours and the battery is still in the 40% range.

SMS / MMS: working better than ever. The annoying pause that sometimes happens when going from a message to your inbox or visa versa is now only about 3 to 4 seconds when in the past I've seen it take several minutes to unbind itself.

Lovin this build...very nice work NRG...I even talked my wife into letting me buy you a beer. ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Gman65:
Glad to hear you are back up and running.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] geok:
Forgive my possible ignorance here, but, isn't it true nowadays that the flashing procedure actually downloads and unpacks the ROM all together, so that, when you do a hard reset, you're not actually unpacking anything?!?

That is, with a hard reset, is the entire non-volatile portion of the filesystem being re-written from some packed storage repository? Or is most of it written once, during the flash procedure, with the hard reset simply re-initializing everything and reapplying the configuration from the provisioning XML files?

Could someone please confirm this, or let me know that I'm completely off base? :)

Thanks!

-geo
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tgwaste:
im trying to install 2009.11.27 21877 and during the UC Setup stage it gets to about 80% and then just keeps flashing this 'to disable touch flo 3d' thing over and over every 30 seconds or so. never gets past it. flashes to quick for me to hit anything.

whats up here?

edit:

looks like these programs can not be installed automatically via SDConfig.txt. :(

#CAB: \Storage Card\ted\library\homescreen.plus.cab

#CAB: \Storage Card\ted\library\resco.explorer.v7.05.cab

#CAB: \Storage Card\ted\library\resco.registry.v7.05.cab
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cgl:
I don't have the BattPowerOff in my registry, the closest I have is:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentcontrolSet\Control\Power\ActivityTimers\UserActivity

Could this be it? Inside there I have, TimeoutMs 0x00000064(100)

Anyone have any thoughts? My battery life is pretty poor.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] biscuits1978:
I have the aforementioned registry key:

"HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\BattPowerOff"

It was indeed set to 0. Trying 180 as suggested, we'll see if battery life improves or not.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] frankjr927:
not sure if it was posted yet sorry if it was

is there a way to get back the regular flip clock instead of the one that comes with this rom? a cab woould be appreciated
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cgl:
Yeah, unfortunately I don't have that registry key. I'm not sure it would be a good idea to create it either. I did just find a folder called UserIdle, within "power" if that means anything.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] J-Hop2o6:
Does ANYONE know why the HTC Home Screen Clock is off sync with the Top Clock (WM/Notification Bar Clock)?? and how do u sync them up? and is there a way to sync BOTH clocks OTA (over the air)?? PLZ help cuhz its kind of an annoyance.

oh yea,, i keep forgetting to ask this, but does anyone know how to get the TV Out back on my phone.. it seems NRG forgot to add it on the Nov 8th release of the 21864 build.. is it as simple as installing it from a cab? and if so, where is the cab for it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tgwaste:
found another issue in: 2009.11.27 21877

actisync icon on the top bar spins and spins endlessly whether the device is connected or not. makes the device very very slow.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Hoso:
install a bunch of cabs at once

I just thought i'd ask this since i'm sure there is a way, but i have no idea how to do it! I was wanting to know if there was a way to create a "big cab file" that includes all the cab files i install after i flash to a new rom. Right now, i just have everything in a folder on my SD card, but if i could get a cab file or a batch command or something to do it all at once, that would be a huge time saver, well not huge, but i'm kinda lazy :p and this would help! If anyone could point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated, thank you!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] biscuits1978:
UC or Sashimi. Read up on it. Sashimi can do a lot more than just run a batch of CABs.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
It wasn't 'left out' it is still there, our friends at HTC put their own (boring) lock screen keypad. TwoPumpChump figured it out for me and created a cab and procedure to restore the winmo default lockscreen keypad.

If you have dusk lockscreen 3.0 installed, remove it before you run this cab/procedure, then put it back on after.

1. Delete the entire Key: HKLM\Security\Shell\Lock
2. In HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\LockScreen\* (SMS,EMAIL, etc)
2.1 Delete each entry for "application command line"
3. HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\LockScreen\Notificat ions\SliderFocus, SliderNotif and SliderNotifFocus edited the value to remove 'htc_'
4. Install TPC default_lockscreeen.cab
5. Soft reset

@NRG... if you would be so kind as to include these simple changes in your base ROM it would be much appreciated by me at least.

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
Geo,

This is exactly what I was trying to say this morning. The ROM is only unpacked once at flash, a hard reset just reinitializes everything.

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] intothevoid:
Is it just me or there is an issue with opening SMS ? I can see them on TF3D, flip and del them but nothing is happening when I press all messages. I am using 28008 12/2/09
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] geok:
Russ,

THANK YOU! I was trying imagine a scenario in which it could possibly be unpacking anything from scratch, given that there is no longer anything like the ExtROM storage. Given that I was unable to do so, I decided either:

It's actually just reinitializing the volatile portions of the filesystem, OR

I don't have a particularly good imagination.

I'm relieved to find out that the answer is #1! :) (Or, possibly, both.)

-geo
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] geok:
Same here. NOW, can someone please explain what in the world we're doing when we set the power off timers in Settings->System->Power?!?

Is that control panel there simply to make us think we're in control when in fact we're just randomly pressing buttons? :D

Seriously, although it's under the Backlight section, the Power Control Panel clearly says, "Turn off device if not used for:..." And yet I did notice that my phone wasn't ever actually turning off! (And note it says "device", not backlight, screen, etc.)

So, why is there this registry key that's actually controlling things, as well as a control panel that is not actually controlling anything?

BTW, I also have: HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\Timeouts,which contains even more values that claim to control the power.

Could someone maybe explain these various keys and control panels, as it's obvious that they're not all doing what they claim?

Thanks!

-geo
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] reiter123:
28008 Titanium. Just Great!

Updated yesterday from 23504 Titanium (8. nov) to 28008 Titanium (3. dez).

This ROM rocks!!! Everything is workin: GPS, Activesync, Messaging, Opera, ...

Great Work. (I did also try some different 28005 versions, so I know what Im speakin about :))

(Just sent a beer via paypal :) )
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Forever022:
Apologize to all and specially NRG for putting this post here..

need your help to decide to keep the Tilt 2 or return to the fuze

I just got the tilt 2 today but I prefer the fuze's small size in comparison with tilt 2...

I remember when i moved from the Kaiser (tilt 1) to the fuze i wasnt so happy but i got used to the fuze and loved it... now i just want to make sure if everyone of you still prefer the tilt 2 over the fuze...

thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hecksk:
my first rom - EnergyROM_28008_RHODIUM_02.Dec.2009_Standard

I've installed - EnergyROM_28008_RHODIUM_02.Dec.2009_Standard. First of all thanks for such beautiful ROM build!

There are some issues (IMHO) I've found:

1. There is no Opera 10beta .... but declared.

2. It would be great if there will be a build-in: VAlert;

3. It would be great if there will be a build-in: Balance for Manila; sorry but I have a russian link only link.

4. It's a pity there is no HTC Volume control, I'd love to have it.

5. It would be great if there will be a build-in a backlight alternative software Lumos;

6. Also how to change Contact on Home tab to launch not a WM Contacts but manila All Contacts?

7. Dialer has visual bug with icon of keypad, is possible to fix it?

8. Loading animation is very slow with that rectangle ... it would be great to have animation like EnergyROM_21877_RHODIUM_01.Dec.2009_StandardM2.5 has.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
In my not so humble opinion, the TP2 (tilt2) is a far superior platform to the fuze. Of course my opinion is based on how I use it, it is my mobile office, I need the larger screen, memory, processor etc. Which explains why I stayed with my Kaiser (tilt1) and skipped the fuze until TP2 came along.

just my 2 cents.

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fuze1969A:
Graphical Glitch

First impression:

This was the first 28xxx rom that I was able to sync with Exchange 2007.

Does anyone see an upside down triangle in the upper left corner under the top task bar? I just flashed 28008 Titanium and did 2 HR and I still have the triangle. Even after installing MSkip Pro Plus the glitch is still there.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jsmith8858:
USB Connection to PC performance?

Hi -- Can anyone confirm that 28008 connects to their PC via USB successfully in both modes (ActiveSync and USB Drive) and performs normally? In the previous 2800x builds, connecting to the PC was extremely slow if it worked at all. Not sure if that was an issue with WM or the ROM itself, but either way, it was a show-stopper for me so I am curious to hear if it has been resolved in the Dec 2 builds.

Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] reiter123:
RE: USB Connection to PC performance?

Yes; Full Speed USB connection for ActiveSync and USB Drive. (with 28008 titanium)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
That's not a glitch, it's a feature. Tap on the triangle and you will get quick menu 2.6. :)

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dcthornton:
Re: Stock Manila 2.1 Clock

I found this file over at PPCG. Installed it and it works great. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kidd352002:
How to change my phone to the first picture?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] LordFuzzy024:
Seriously. The first one is the Standard ROM and the Second one is the Titanium. Download and Flash the Titanium version. Thats it. No differenece besides one has Manila and one has Titanium.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] swaney:
first go to start then settings then today. go to the items tab and select windows default tab then walah
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] efrant:
Huh? The Fuze and Tilt2 have the same memory and processor...

The Tilt2 gives you a bigger screen, but you lose a D-pad.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] LordFuzzy024:
Agreed. I did not like the Fuze. Waited for Tilt2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] efrant:
Seriously. The standard version has both Manila and Titanium.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Hoso:
Thank you, SASHIMI looks perfect, but i can't seem to find the cab file anywhere. the winmo-experts forum doesn't seem to have anywhere to actually download it. can someone send me the link or post the cab file for me, it would be much appreciated!!! thanks in advance.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aspazatak:
I there a way to update the default location if you don't do it during setup at initial boot.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fuze1969A:
Thanks

Now I see that when I open the QuickMenu I see the same symbol
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gimpcell:
Thanks for the hard work, man. updating now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] memcbob:
28008 GWES.exe huge!

is it just me or did the size of gwes.exe double? its about 41 Mb in 28008 when running for couple hours, after reset it is about 22Mb...

just wondering,
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mitko76:
disable the additional top panel

I just installed 28008 titanium,

what I can say.. best rom so far :D

Just a question,

how I can disable the additional top panel (the one with 5 icons) which appear when I click on the main top panel.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] memcbob:
XPERIA X2 task

did i miss it? Is there a cab for XPERIA X2 task floating around?

Thx,

i can't get used to 'quick menu', i have to hit exactly the right upper left corner to get to it...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Learic:
I like the Xperia task mgr as well. But while we wait to see if a cab is available, the QuickMenu does allow you to move the position. It is configured for 3 right now but you can move it further away from the left side of the screen by going to option and under the View tab, adjust the Q position.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Gman65:
You need to register on their site then you can download it... Also they ask that you do not make Sashimi outside of the site. I had no problems getting registered or downloading the cab after that. It is a very flexible program!:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GSLEON3:
TV/Video Out - Broken/Bug

Am I the only one that uses video out? Great for PP demos in customers offices.

It does not work in the 21877 rom (Standard). Works on NRG's latest Raphael rom, but not on the Tilt2.

The Tilt 2 has TV out capability & it worked with the stock rom, but with the 21877 Rhodium rom all you get is audio out.

Anyone???
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
I have big problem, after I installed the 2008 december 2 Standard ROM & hard reset it, all home screen buttons are reversed in actions. Please help me is it only me or not?

thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] leepriestenator:
Get your freshly baked ROM right here... RIGHT HERE!

New 21877 Build

Release: 04 Dec 09

EDIT:

1) Opera 10 replaced with Opera 9.7

2) All links under the Internet tab are woking now. (Launch Browser and the Opera Link)

3) SE Xperia Task Manager is still there

4) TV-OUT is now available under Settings\System
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bo79:
I felt exactly the same way you do. Trust me, you´ll love the tilt 2, too.

I had raphael and rhodium at the same time for 2 month and i was very sad when i had to sold my raphael... It was a great device, too.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] orb3000:
I´ll wait for the new 28008 or whatever number follows for the 6.5.X:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tofferbear:
I LOVE the Tilt II compared to my Fuze and I'd never go back...but them I'm pretty much a giant with huge hands so it fits me well. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] twiggy114:
MMS

Not sure why.....but I'm able to get MMS messages but I can't send. Anybody have a clue why?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] geok:
It sounds like you're asking how to get to Manila fromTitanium. As everyone has said, each is essentially a Today plugin, so you choose which you want via:

Start->Settings->Today
​

and choose the "Items" tab.

Depending on which ROM you're using, the first (Manila) will be called either "HTC Sense" or "TouchFlo...". The second (Titanium) will be "Windows Default".

As long as you're running a "Standard" ROM, you'll have the choice of either one, so you can go back and forth as much as you want.

-geo
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] twiggy114:
I got it working =]
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] geok:
Honestly, nobody can tell you which is better! There are just too many subjective measurements in deciding which device is best for you!

I personally love the Tilt 2, and I far prefer it to the Fuze, which I thought was a sweet device. I am far from being a giant like Tofferbear :)! In fact my hands are relatively small. I also have serious arthritis, yet I really prefer the larger width and slightly thinner design! The Fuze was actually too small for me, because I found it difficult to hold on to.

In addition, and I know they share the same CPU and other performance attributes, I find the Tilt 2 to be faster in every way!

Given how many ways there are to use these phones (essentially their greatest strength), every single member here could give you a different critique! Only you can decide which is better!

-geo
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] J-Hop2o6:
A few questions i NEED answered (for awhile)...

1.) Does ANYONE know why the HTC Home Screen Clock is off sync with the Top Clock (WM/Notification Bar Clock)?? and how do u sync them up? and is there a way to sync BOTH clocks OTA (over the air)?? PLZ help cuhz its kind of an annoyance.

2.) On the Stock Tmousa Shipped Rom (WM6.1),, there was a tab in the Power settings for "Last Full Charge" and it showed your usage like talk time, standby time, etc.. Now with the EnergyROM (check my sig below), its not there (i think its never been there for the 6.5 EnergyRoms).. is there ANY way to get this back on??

3.) oh yea,, i keep forgetting to ask this, but does anyone know how to get TV Out back on my phone.. it seems NRG forgot to add it on the Nov 8th release of the 21864 build.. is it as simple as installing it from a cab? and if so, where is the cab for it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] petard:
I have this problem too! I can't get anyone to acknowledge it. What works in SOME roms is to disable HTCResProxy, but it doesn't work in the RRE ROM I currently have (1.2)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ctbear:
In the Dec 4 21877 release, anyone has issues using X2 task manger?

Whenever I press the icon it also brings up the notification manager...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Damager:
No issues here, as long as you press right in the corner, you'll only get the task manager.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] J-Hop2o6:
same here.. anyone else??

Update: so i only have a problem with the new X2TM if i have i program in the Task Manager .. if there is no program in the Task Manager, it will stay on instead of it popping up for 1 second, then the Notification Manager shows.. anyone know of a fix?

Another thing i found out is that Opera doesn't open up from both Program screens.. fix?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deceptivesmiles:
I noticed that mine did because my battery is usually dead within a 3 hr span. So if we have it on 180, which is default, if we raise the value higher, would we see better battery life?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
28008 (12.04.2009) quick look

all,

Just finished flashing the Dec 4 version of 28008. So far everything looks good, install/restore was painless and FAST! 33 min start to finish. That would have been about 10 min shorter if I didn't have to manually edit the registry to get the damn default WinMo lock screen keypad back (hey NRG fix that please?)

I can already say that my one issue with the previous 28008 is fixed, activesync USB retained the PIN code so I don't have to enter it every time I drop the TP2 on the desk cradle.

I am not sure yet, due to short test time, but, activesync hasn't thrown any errors yet. In previous 2300X builds activesync would run for a bit then crash, unable to sync etc. This one doesn't seem to be doing that, but with only about an hour on it, can't say for certain.

More notes as I play with this build.

Happy weekend all!!! :)

Russ