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[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soulja24:
hello

can i jus ask my main concern to do a nandroid backup is to restore my system back to an unrooted stock htc hero rom

if i have to flash cyanogen reovery console stuff before making a nandroid backup then when I need to restore my system to the original unrooted stock state will the flash recovery image (or console?) from where I make the nandroid backup - will that continue to exist on the phone?

in which case if i need to send my fone back for repairs/warranty will this give away that Ive been messsing arnd wid the fone?

can this flash recovery console/apk file installation be removed?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] drowens:
I installed 2 things on my phone and for some reason it will on connect using 1x which is 2g if Im not mistaken. The 2 apps were the gprs hack and wmlonglife. Ive soft rest and hard reset, and nothing. How do I get my EVDO to come back. Oh I have the sprint version. Any help would be awesome. :confused:
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] yakovich:
[EDIT]

Sorry for being rude, I did not mean I do not like cyanogen the person (he is great.) But for the ROMs in the sapphire section that say to use cyanogens recovery that is fine. But it would be REALLY nice if they included "Oh btw this recovery image has a console that is UN-USABLE for the magic because it was made for the g1 and has no soft keyboard. So if you cannot adb your phone (like a lot of people because the drivers are sketchy) you should prob keep using amon_ra's recovery image since you can partition from there.

[EDIT]
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] PToN22:
If you had actually read the information posted all over the forums and the internet you would know that the mods do not overwrite the boot partition in the phone. So if you go into the restore mode and do a "wipe" and then reboot you would get your phone working again.

Dont blame others for your stupidity...
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] yakovich:
I didn't directly blame others, I just didn't understand why someone who made a sapphire rom would reccomend using cyanogens recovery image, when it is for the g1 and you CANT access the console.

I did a wipe, the phone will NOT boot, at all. The only way to get a hero rom to boot on my phone is to format and partition the sd card after installing the update.zip. If my sd card is not formatted the ROM won't load... So I am stuck.

I don't get how people can install roms w/ out partitioning their SD again because it does not work for me.

Sorry for being blunt, and upset. But my phone does not work anymore, and it is very frustrating because windows won't detect my mytouch. I have installed all the drivers, so can you please help instead of critizing me??

I need drivers for the t-mobile mytouch that actually work on xp sp-2. Or since I cannot boot how can I flash a different recovery image to the phone? Can I do it w/ an update.zip?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] yakovich:
Okay now here is what is happening...

I got adb finally, and it will only get to recovery it says

adb devices

blahblah recovery

I try to type

fastboot boot recovery-RAv1.2.1G.img

Then I get < waiting for device >

And it just hangs forever! Why? Please help me...
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Johnny Blaze:
Actually cyanogens recovery does let you fromat sd without console. It works on dream and magic. I used it on my buddys mt3g yesterday.

Next option.....and here is the kicker.......use sd reader to reformat and partition the card and copy over new update.zip. BTW you must have an older recovery since all current ones have the update choose zip option. Also search for rav 1.2 recovery.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] philicibine:
nice how people diss the devs when they dont understand what they`re doin in the first place!
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] philicibine:
Cyanogen is THE MASTER!

:D
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Drizzy Drake Rogers:
Mods PLease close this thread, Thank you!!!!
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] ronni.rasmussen:
Put your hate on your own stupidity fool!!!

The developers does a great favor for all of us sharing there work.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] yakovich:
WTF... I meant I hate cyanogens recovery console.. Not his forum moniker!

I appreciate all his work greatly, he is a genius.

"Actually cyanogens recovery does let you fromat sd without console"

Where??

For now I am sticking to Amon RAs recovery, and unless it is clear how to format the SD without a soft keyboard in the recovery console others should be reccomended to do the same.

So typical to think I am trolling, when I was just frustrated with the fact it is RECOMMENDED to use cyanogens recovery. There is NO soft keyboard for the console, so what is the point if you own a magic?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] maxisma:
yakovich, how stupid are you?

You try to fastboot in recovery mode.

Idiot.

Have you ever heard the word "spl"?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] yakovich:
Why are you flaming me?

If you even attempted to read what I said at the time -- I could not fastboot because I did not have adb or shell or anything. And I had a terminal (cyanogen recovery only) that has no SOFT keyboard (you know the magic doesn't have a keyboard right?) I had to install ubuntu on a different machine to get my phone to boot.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] slimm13:
Yako, if you were smart you would either delete this whole thread or edit the title. you are coming across as an ass.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] yakovich:
LOL... I know, it was REALLY my fault.

You guys all know the shear frustration I was facing at the time, and I hope you can all forgive me for coming off as crass and ignorant. It was really my mistake, and I'm glad it happened because I figured out a much better way of partitioning w/ shell.

I will make it up, in time... promise. I rly <3 this forum.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] ronni.rasmussen:
I can undesrtand your frustration and can appriciate the honesty. But nice to see you changed the topic of this thread to be more constructive so the rest of us will be able to see it as useful information!

And as you wrote "'m glad it happened" you probably learned a alot. Most important is that your mobile isn't bricked :)
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Howler62:
Why close the thread? People whether right or wrong arent alowed to vent thier frustrations while asking for help? There have been many many messages like i tried to flash this 32a on my G1 please help... yes they should have read what they were about to do first but we still try and help or tell them thier phone is FUBAR.. You guys with your name on roms are getting a little swelled in the head i think thats my opinion and im entitled to it. You tweak roms whoopie.. you can't even write code to get bluetooth to work so to me that means all you do is tweak someone elses work.. thier ive vented. now you can close the thread and/or ban me for speaking out too.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] jjcobm:
I agree, Amon_Ra's is much easier to use and ment for the sapphire/MT3G that doesn't have the hard keyboard while the cyanogen is better suited for the G1 which does have the physical keyboard.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Visti:
It seems to me you're trying to run the fastboot commands from the recovery image, but they're two different things. Fastboot work when you boot with POWER+BACK into fastboot, if you can't get there it seems you might have messed up flashing the SPL?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] clandest:
I am on a macbook pro, and was wondering will I have any problems with the HTC magic sync/music/contacts on the mac os x?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] slackwaresupport:
i use os x also.. and i sync my cal with busycal and my contacts with the contact sync.. and all is fine.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] clandest:
what about install Roms and all that?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] slackwaresupport:
works fine.. all you do is put them on the sdcard then install from there.

and cyan has a new frontend that runs on your unit to update .. its nice.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bravekid20:
Hello Everyone,

I want to make my g1 a android dev phone. So what are the latest and most efficient steps I can take with a default 1gb sdcard. (The one the phone came with) The reason I want to do this is because I want to be able to go to htc's website and get the spl, radio, and the rom so I can have the htc contacts, exchange, and a better camera software; basically the one rogers dream runs. I know haykuro is out there but I want official. So will making it a dev phone give me the same things as a rooted so I can run hero? Please let me know.

Thank You
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] david1171:
The guide in my sig will help with rooting easily. Then you will need the latest radio 2.22.19.26I to flash the 1.33.2005 spl (both can be found on haykuro's page) then you will need to partition your sdcard using one of the guides on here (i suggest one of the ones that deals with doing it from reocvery console which you will get the proper recovery image from my sig's guide) then flash the hero following the steps in the OP of whatever hero rom you pick.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Binary100100:
somebody needs to read the stickies or at least search.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cephasara:
I know this has been asked 4082340238923 times probably, but nobody has asked this question exactly the way I want to, nor has anybody really given a technical answer to this isn't possible, which I'd find hard to believe anyway. Why can't MMS messages be sent without the data plan?? Is there some way to route MMS messaging through the same manor that SMS messages are received?

Nearly every other phone I've used didn't require a data plan to send them. I think it is ridiculous, especially when it comes down to dealing with two different technologies/protocols.

With people like Cyanogen, JAC, Drizzy, Stericson, Twisted, Ccyrowski, Barak, and androidspin, development of moded roms has greatly progressed. I'm shocked that this hasn't been brought up and that any solution, even if one that required wifi hasn't been found. I just want to know what we are dealing with here and to possibly build support for this concern in the community.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B-man007:
MMS is sent through APN's... find the one that sends the mms and disable the rest or talk to your service provider
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cephasara:
Ah, I thought APNs were strictly for the data plan. I used APNdroid, which renames all of the APNs. Oddly enough I see one called "T-Mobile US", when I delete the extra characters APNdroid added to make it invalid, not only does MMS work but so does the entire data plan and I'm sure I get charged.

Even if there was a way to enable MMS through the APN's I'd probably get charged for it still.

Also, I can't talk to T-mobile because I'm sure they'll try to stick me on a data plan if they find I don't have one anyway, so I don't see that as an option.

What I'm asking is for a modification that changes the flow of traffic through wifi at least, if not something to get MMS working like it does through other phones with only a messaging/texting plan and no data plan.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B-man007:
u cant get it through wifi unfortunately (same reason that Visual Voicemail +tmo my account app doesnt work ) because that data is sent only through tmobile's data network. You can try to edit the apn's to only allow the mms messages to go through. i too use apndroid bcz i dont have a data plan, but i dont have mms.

Search online to find out how to edit the APN for mms for tmobile, so only mms comes through.

disable 3g so mms comes only through grps/edge

also, i know the hero roms allow u to turn off mobile data (though i still use apndroid)

dont flash the new spl unless youve flashed the newest radio!!! (just a disclaimer i have to add everytime i mention anything requiring it)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cephasara:
Well see, I haven't been able to find the correct APN setting to allow only MMS to go through. There use to be a way as mentioned by the user "dave" on this site, but T-mobile blocked it awhile ago: http://inportb.com/2008/12/29/using-a-g1-without-a-data-plan/#comment-436

So if I flashed to a Hero rom I should have support for both SMS and MMS without a data plan because Hero roms have an option to shut off the data connection?

What if I unlocked my phone and connected to an AT&T network using an AT&T APN, could I get MMS that way?

Sorry for my ignorance on any of these technicalities. I haven't seen any conclusion come to this issue, anywhere on the internet, in every android community I've been to so I want to find at least a feasible conclusion to this.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B-man007:
i dont know if it would work. i dont have a data plan nor mms. i dont see why i wouldnt work though. maybe someone will provide additional input

if you have tmobile, connecting to an ATT apn won't do you any good. the reason it has to be sent by tmobile is because its tmobiles data. att cannot access your MMS. The mms isnt sent through the regular internet, it is ONLY over mobile internet. there isnt anyway to find them online and have them downloaded. its like a phone call. you can't just find it online, its only on the carriers airwaves

EDIT: Try what dave said but with these settings

http://support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm2...ex=4&navtypeid=6&pagetypeid=7&prevPageIndex=2
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cephasara:
Well I tried that, and MMS worked but so did the rest of the internet. That's the problem--MMS will work but so does the internet, so I can't help think that I'm going to get charged for that. So does that mean I was connected to the mobile internet or the data plan? I'm confused with entering that data, This is what I did:

APN: wap.voicestream.com

Server: http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc

MMS proxy: 216.155.165.050

MCC: 310

MNC: 260

Is there a way somebody could create an application to help with this?? Maybe make a driver or whatever it would be called for WiFi to be used as an APN. I don't know, something to remedy this. Please! Thanks greatly for your help already, B-man.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xP1GxB3N1Sx:
@cephasara

do you have the data plan?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cephasara:
No I don't. And probably connecting to the data network for short intervals like I am probably isn't a good idea, since I assume data usage adds up real quickly of which I'll get charged for.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xP1GxB3N1Sx:
well i dont see how you would get charged since you didnt sign up for the data package,

can you tell me which rom you are using and the settings your using

thanks
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cephasara:
Well I thought if you didn't have a data plan then you get charged by the megabyte. Am I wrong? Is there any way I can check without having T-mobile pushing one on me if I call them since it is suppose to be required?

And my settings are as described in my second to last post, I can use the default "T-mobile US" settings too which I think only varies by the "MMS port" which is 8080.

Originally I put my dad's SIM card in my phone to setup Android and he has the data plan. We're on a family plan. Maybe coming from a SIM with the data plan caused mine to glitch up, I really don't know.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xP1GxB3N1Sx:
you could check your tmobile account online

are you on cupcake 1.5, cyanogens, jacxrom ?

and if you do get to check your tmobile account online and there is no change

price wise then you should be good to go :D
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cephasara:
Oh sorry, I'm using CyanogenMod v4.0.2

Well I just checked my account information and it says nothing about a data plan yet I'm able to connect to the internet just by the mentioned settings I used. When I click under "Billing & Payments" then click "Data" I get "There is no data use for this line.", so I guess I'm getting the data plan for free..

Still I would like to know how to send pictures without the data plan because I doubt this will last forever. And for whoever else may want MMS without having a data plan.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cephasara:
Well after learning a little more about this I figured out that I was obviously getting the data plan for free. I think T-Mobile was upgrading to 3G in my area or who knows why I had it free for that time, but since then it has stopped working.

I am still interested to know if anybody has luck with MMS without a data plan. I haven't been able to get MMS since the data plan stopped for me. And I'm starting to believe that Android pushes MMS through that data connection, so there would be no APN setting that would allow this to work right. But that is just my own rationalizing from experience, because the APN settings I had when I had that data network worked fine, and MMS messages were sent and received. Even after leaving them the same I am in able to send and receive MMS, but that's just my two cents back by own my trial and error, so anybody with actual logic of this situation, please, go ahead and let me know any more information about this!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Exion:
Thanks for this hack adq. Just tried this now and can confirm it worked fine.

For console I built a TTL console cable using "HTC Multifunction Audio Cable YC A300". This connector has 2xEXT USB (1 for headphone and 1 for data/charge) pluss 2xheadphone plugs. Inside there is two boards. 1 board connected for USB Data/Charge and one for the others. So removing the board for headset and connecting the pins to TTL adapter I got both console and USB connectivity at the same time. Hence, I did not have to replug during your process :)

My device was factory programmed with hboot 1.76.0007 and radio 63.18.55.06EU_6.35.06.18. I downgraded from both these to the ones you specified before attempting the hack.

I have now upgraded back to hboot 1.76.0007 and radio 63.18.55.06EU_6.35.06.18. The security and cid is still keept from the hack!

Great job adq,

Best regards,

Exion
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] enlightener:
great work adq, works fine! :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Exion:
Even if the bootloader says HERO CVT SHIP S-OFF, the fastboot boot command does still not work in 1.76.0007 bootloader. So I have reverted back to 1.76.0004 again for now. Maybe there is more we need to modify ?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] KinkyGolab:
hello :). can u please take some photos on HTC Multifunction Audio Cable YC A300 and the inside of it so i cnow what i need to do
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] packetlss:
Quick question to adq:

Is the unlocking with serial cable the only way to get this done? Or is there a way to flash a S-OFF SPL using normal methods?

If not, then I guess it's time to bring out the ol' good soldering iron :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Jesterz:
Thanks, made this a sticky, file moved to a more permanent location
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] paulobrien:
Nice!

I need to make myself a cable now... ;)

P
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] oblika:
Could it be possible to make the cable using a USB2serial adapter and than use an extUSB breakout board and a rs232 connector and solder them together (correct pins) and then just connect the rs232 to the USB2rs232 adapter and the adapter in PC?

B
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] adq:
Hi, not with the code as it is right now. However, there's no reason someone else couldn't take the code and remove the serial requirement; this was simply the fastest way to get the thing working. I'm not very interested in doing this myself though, as I want to get on with looking at other things.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] adq:
Hi, I use a USB->(3.3v) serial adapter with the HTC serial breakout board soldered to the other side of it; my laptop doesn't have a serial interface otherwise.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] felikz:
hi!

just to ask, what will be advantages of this??

greetings
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] oblika:
I currently have a Digitus USB 2.0 -> rs232 (http://www.digitus.info/en/products/accessories/?c=1216&p=3530). Does this adapter seem ok to you?

I have done some googling and found out that it has FTDI chip (FT232BM)? I just want to make sure that it uses 3.3V.

http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/FT232BM.htm

http://www.ftdichip.com/Documents/DataSheets/DS_FT232BM.pdf

---

Where did you order the breakout board? I'm from Slovenia (Europe). Where would be the best place to order?

B
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] behnaam:
Can somebody with S-OFF dump their SPL?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] adq:
Ah - if that's specifically a USB->RS232 adaptor, that will most likely run at 12v, so it'd fry the phone.

www.sparkfun.com have the HTC breakout boards; they also have USB->3.3v serial adaptors such as http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=198, but you'll have to make certain its *definitely* 3.3v; even 5v might fry it. I paranoidly checked at the last minute with a voltmeter.

There's an instructables article about it here: http://www.instructables.com/id/Android_G1_Serial_Cable/

Looking about, I see www.coolcomponents.co.uk have such things in the UK.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] packetlss:
Adq, sorry to bother you again.

Looking at your suggestions above, would these items make a good start off point to for making a cable then?

http://www.coolcomponents.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=100

http://www.coolcomponents.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=266
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] kiz:
I would like to know this too, thanks.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] zryk:
:eek::eek:

O MY GOD,Can someone translate it into Chinese?It is very important to me...................

thank you adq!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Exion:
Hi KinkyGolab,

You can get the pinout details/pictures from my wiki http://www.suphammer.net/Hero/ExtUSB

Please note there is two PCB's in the dongle. I have only investigated the connections for the audio board (where the TTL serial signals are available).

Please use a TTL 3v level serial adapter when connecting to the serial pins. Connecting the serialport of your pc directly to the serial pins of the HTC will damage your HTC.

Best regards,

Exion
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] felikz:
erm guys, what should be the reason to break the security of one's phone?!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] packetlss:
As a normal user not much.

If you are SIM locked to a specific operator you can remove it this way.

Also with a S-OFF bootloader you can able to flash certain areas that you can't normally flash, like splash screens for example.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] felikz:
ah okay, i thought it was possible to break simlock via root access, but so thats not true.. what else could be done? there is this old nokia phone, which is used by criminals to receive mtans by manipulating something in the sim-card-connector-chip.. is this some kind which could be done then?! dont hope so ^^
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] oblika:
Would anyone from Europe be interested in making and testing this cable for me (€ of course) ?

B
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Z!L0G80:
adq:

hi good work, could you please make full ram dump for me ? i have dissassembled hboot in ida and there are some unresolved references( imho some data config space after hboot) thnx
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] behnaam:
How come nobody want's do dump thier S-OFF hboot? :(
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] shoktong:
htc magic

can this unlock process work for the htc magic? :)

thanks!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Geeum:
Hi guys,

is there an esay way to check if your hero is CID locked ?

I've read on a post that orange uk now sells its phones with a CID lock which makes simlock not possible with a code purchased on the internet ...

I would like to know this in order to avoid buying a code and the realize it doesn't work ...

the post I was talking about: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=560105&page=7
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Z!L0G80:
now i have unlocked bootloader s-off and supercid,how can i dump full ram?,is there descriptions of hidden commands ?