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[Touch CDMA General] tatnai:
I think the battery situation is just the way things are going to be for now. with data on, background data off, backlight dim, power mode 0 (power collapse suspend), and a full overnight charge, i've never made it 24h on android with light use (usually more like 14-16 hours). win mo running nfsfan's wm 6.1, I can make it at least 36h no prob and then some. it's going to be different for everyone, because of different styles of use, different states of battery reserve, cdma vs gsm, etc etc.

you can try turning off data when not in use using "modem". keep your screen dim. still, I don't think you are going to match a well optimized wm rom.
[Touch CDMA General] garringm:
Your first problem is your power colapse setting, try setting it to 1 and see how that does
[Touch CDMA General] tatnai:
umm, nope; 1 and I last 10 hours max, if even that. 0 is the most power efficient setting.
[Touch CDMA General] skola28:
For some reason, I believe that the 'best power saving mode' option has changed a couple times. It at some point was 0, and then it changed somewhere down the line, I'm not sure if dzo switched it for a reason, but I had been running the same default.txt file for a long time. And then saw that the setting for "Best Power Saving" had changed.

Long story short, I think '1', with the current zImages, is the best power saving.
[Touch CDMA General] garringm:
It has been this way for as long as I can remember if I remember correctly setting to 1 was causing wake up issues but was still the best power saving mode a long time ago, but them issues were taken care of many many months ago probly close to a year or better.
[Touch CDMA General] tatnai:
do a quick one day test. set it to 0 one day, then 1 the next, and see what happens; you'll note a pretty remarkable difference.
[Touch CDMA General] dogblood:
First off.. Hi!

My first post, I usually just read -- I must say Android is a breath of fresh air great work everyone for making this happen.

Secondly - I'll give this battery test a try and post what I find. If I can stretch out just a little bit more battery life happy dances would occur tears of joy would be shed.

wish me luck.

-Db
[Touch CDMA General] majorahole:
so im running this and its great, but my mms wont send. i get a not sent message like 30min after trying to send one, thanks
[Touch CDMA General] dogblood:
After testing both settings, i prefer setting 0. I noticed the battery life is a little bit longer (in the end its probably usage driven) still needs a topup charge mid-day or it won't make it. I can live with that :)
[Touch CDMA General] thoughtlesskyle:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/24/google-hits-android-rom-modder-with-a-cease-and-desist-letter/

anybody think this is ridic?
[Touch CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
this doesn't shock me at all, maybe this is why it has been soo quite around here lately. as android grows more popular i think google may start going after our devs here for non android phones such as the vogue.
[Touch CDMA General] pmos69:
Its a stupid move. Even Microsoft learned that and stopped going after xda-devs...
[Touch CDMA General] craig0r:
Agreed. Google goes on about how they own the apps and it's a business decision and blah blah blah, but if we can obtain the applications legitimately and for free outside of a custom build, I don't see what the big deal is. What's the difference if we download Maps from the market, or if it's built into our system.img?
[Touch CDMA General] skydirt:
There isn't any difference, to us. However, one reason that devs do this is to ensure quality control. Google certainly would not want an old version floating about with possible bugs, security risks etc. that they have since fixed. If they force users to use the market to obtain these items, it's always the most updated. Also, it ensures that these apps are trust worthy and not potentially modified versions that could pose risk to users.

The same thing goes on here on these boards. Dev's here do not want others taking their work, changing it and re-releasing, let alone using the same name. There are fights and arguments regarding this all to often on these forums between devs, over "open source" items.

This is already a dead issue to me as all I have to do is have these apps in their .apk form in "AndroidApps" on my SD card and it remains in my android build, not matter which one I use.
[Touch CDMA General] aross6:
Is there a downloadable pack of the proprietary .apk's to put in "AndroidApps" available anywhere?
[Touch CDMA General] craig0r:
As long as you have an existing system image, from before they were pulled, and you can shell into your phone (otherwise you can use an Android terminal application) you can copy the apk's from a running system.

eg:

cp /system/app/Youtube.apk /sdcard/AndroidApps/

Of course, you'll need to make sure your SD card has the AndroidApps folder before doing this.

I'm not sure if you'll need to copy the existing .odex files in this manner as well, or even if the AndroidApps folder will do anything with the .odex files. Maybe someone else can shine some light on that.

Also with apps like the GMail app, make sure you get the GmailProvider.apk as well.
[Touch CDMA General] jamezelle:
i tried this with jbed.apk but i guess i need the libjbedvm.so, is there anyway i can push this into the system or not because it is r/o? thanks
[Touch CDMA General] craig0r:
Since the system.img and system.sqsh files are read-only, yes, you can do this, but it takes some extra doing. You will need a linux machine or vm, and you will have to extract the system.img/sqsh file, put the libjbedvm.so file in the appropriate location, then re-compress the directory structure into a new system.img/sqsh file.

As far as create squashfs image files, I'm sure there are plenty of guides floating around the web, maybe even on this site, but I've never done it myself. Shouldn't be too hard.
[Touch CDMA General] lazyvegaskid:
where can I find the newest Xrom build for the vogue, and can any one help me with the issue of no internet on some builds. One build has internet and the next one I try has no no internet and its bugging me. I go away from the forums and come back to find that google doesnt want us sharing roms with their apps >=[ this blows

Edit: Got the data working somehow with older files and literally two hours of trial and error, I never tried the Xrom build when they were up =[ I now know what I missed out on. Seriously tho I love these builds I wish more would come out
[Touch CDMA General] tatnai:
first boot often does not have data, usually reboot it will be fine. after reboot, you can use modem, hit disconnect TWICE, that resets the modem. sometimes I have to reset a few times before it connects.
[Touch CDMA General] Stork66:
hey, looks awesome but the download links don't work. Can anyone please post a mirror that already has the files?
[Touch CDMA General] myn:
I noticed today while trying other newer roms like the Donut and Hero roms that the applications and games in the Android market differ from what are available in this xRom.

For example. Search for Hero Theme in the xRom market and no results are returned. Where as the other roms returned many different hero themes.

Also when navigating through the xRoms market into Applications \ Themes only 1 is listed.

Anyone know whats up with this?
[Touch CDMA General] tatnai:
read this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=568580
[Touch CDMA General] myn:
Excellent. How do we get that market working in Xrom?
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
you can't get the donut 1.6 market in xROM. Maybe when xROM is updated to donut you will until then you have to use the cupcake 1.5 market included in xROM.
[Touch CDMA General] myn:
Popular apps are no longer showing up for me in the Market. Facebook, Amazon, etc.
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
Did you recently use donut?
[Touch CDMA General] myn:
Yeah, I recently used Donut.
[Touch CDMA General] Spalla:
Very nice build but I can't seem to download anything off the market without it fc'ing on me. Any way to fix it?
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
did you use a old data.img? try booting with out a data.img and start fresh. i never had any problems with force closes.
[Touch CDMA General] javamaan:
hi zen,

i downloaded the latest files from android-vogue page. used xrom.user.conf but all i see is just regular g1 theme no hero theme.

Here is something stranger, i used the same files with donut.user.conf and it also looked same.

the files i have copied are as follows:

1. haret

2. default.txt (tried with both lcd=120 and 160) 120 is better fit. I have vogue

3.xrom.user.conf

4. system.sqsh

5. initrd.gz

6. rootfs.img

7.zimage

8. resources media

do i need anything else? am i missing any settings?

please help.
[Touch CDMA General] myn:
Anyone been able to get xRom working with MSMIssion's ext2 partition?
[Touch CDMA General] BJNK:
I was using 1.4 successfully before switching to a new donut build for the time being..
[Touch CDMA General] myn:
Hrm. The one I was trying was JACxROM1.5r4c Beta
[Touch CDMA General] silex:
I couldn't get 1.5r4c working. Android logo shows and blinks to black screen for 10min before going completely black and staying there.
[Touch CDMA General] mssmison:
try the new rootfs.
[Touch CDMA General] anotherhawkeye:
Tried the build, love it.

I have a stupid question though...I couldn't find Market & Google maps in the programs folder. Is it not bundled with the build ? If not, is there anyway to get it ?

Sorry if this was discussed earlier, searching the post didn't turn up anything.

TIA.
[Touch CDMA General] edru:
Anyone else get a forbidden for the vogue-hero list? Ive had it for a month now...
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4276193&postcount=1
[Touch CDMA General] anotherhawkeye:
Help ?

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[Touch CDMA General] 160bpm:
Does nobody have problems with setup google account to sync the contacts and calender?
[Touch CDMA General] myn:
I noticed that the camera doesn't work in XROM. We have to use third party cameras to make it work.

Is it possible to pull the camera from say an ION build that doesn't work and transplant it into this xROM?

EDIT: I have an old ION build from 9/12 loaded and the Cam is working. I'm going to pull /system/app/Camera.apk and /system/app/Camera.odex and try and transplant into xRom. Will let you know.
[Touch CDMA General] tatnai:
it won't work (already tried that). just use pro-paint camera.
[Touch CDMA General] myn:
I was afraid you'd say that.

My only issue with using pro paint is it doesn't integrate into applications which depend on a camera, like the twitter apps :(.
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
No problem here. I use this all day long and have downloaded several apps. The head phone icon is just something left over from the g1 version that this is ported from if it bothers people that much I'll look into removing it.
[Touch CDMA General] radem205:
I don't have problems at all with the latest system.img. The wifi is also working on the polaris! Great job!
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
enatefox added the wlifi so thank him.
[Touch CDMA General] SkywalkerPD:
With your other Hero builds I had no problems at all. I'm running it on a Kaiser, can that be the problem?
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
try the new image up at vogue-hero. it has kaiser wifi.
[Touch CDMA General] bandur:
The kaiser version of the system img will not boot on my kaiser ... the vogue version boots fine.... I get a long list of "android_power:wakeup (->0) at (...a numner ...) following by the date "

The vogue version works great, and look great, thanks!
[Touch CDMA General] s0v3r1gn:
While technically true, using the cards wears out the tiny little capacitors that represent each bit of data. A good memory card can have the same life span as a good magnetic disk drive. Some poorly constructed cards may loose sectors on the card after only a few thousand or even a few hundred writes, most cards should last a few million writes.

The SSD in my EEEPC-701 has be formatted ext3 and has no problems after 2 years of use with the cap wear out issue...
[Touch CDMA General] cmus:
Heya, this is the fastest Android build I have tried yet. Thanks to all the developers. There are a few problems I am having. First, some apps are not working. Specifically, Astro File Manager, Newspapers Lite, Express News, and AppManager all fail to launch. Second, apk files in my AndroidApps folder do not install on boot. Does this function no longer work? Finally, shutting down does not work. Screen simply stays on "Power Off" with the spinning wheel and "Shutting Down..." written next to it.

Kaiser works great with wifi, and the build is snappy and responsive. Thanks.

edit: After further testing, the problem seems to be bigger. Some apps that do launch are not able to save user data. For example the Scoreboard app launches, I agree to the license agreement, go in and set up my favorite leagues and sports teams to watch, exit the program, restart the program, and the license agreement comes up again and none of my user data is saved. Anyone know what this problem is?
[Touch CDMA General] refthemc:
Have you tried a fresh Data image? seems like the last 2 pages have had problems with using the same data image.
[Touch CDMA General] cmus:
yes, I have tried with a fresh data.img twice.
[Touch CDMA General] refthemc:
hmmm.... well i wonder what zimage and rootfs are you using?

I'm using

- zImage-18-08-09

- rootfs-2009-08-16.zip +60mb swap. swappiness set at 20.

- and my resolution in default.txt is set at 320X428

with these Astro is running great and my apps in the AndroidApps folder install at boot. And i was actually just using the most recent zimage and rootfs that were released but decided to go back to swap thinking it would run faster, but even with the most recent releases Astro was running fine and the AndroidApps was installing just fine
[Touch CDMA General] cmus:
Just tried using the files you mentioned and same problem persists. I am on kaiser running the system.img modified for Kaiser. Perhaps the problem lies in there somewhere?
[Touch CDMA General] ferenan:
Touchpal

Thank you for the port,

I'm having trouble with Touchpal, I have a Vogue and with the resolution set to 428 I cant get touchpal set up properly.

When it loads it only takes a small portion of the screen with the rest blacked out and its hard to use. If i set the resolution to 480 it works properly but then everything else its disproportional.

I noticed on the xROM2 version that touchpal was included and it loaded properly even with 428 resolution, but with the DICT button on it force closed every time, worked great without the DICT though.

So I'm wondering if its possible to get touchpal to load and work properly on 428 resolution.

Thanks
[Touch CDMA General] mazpro:
great rom, just installed it and wanted to show my appreciation. runs fast and stable.
[Touch CDMA General] aross6:
Anyone else experiencing losing widgets between reboots? I always have to put the Weather, Calendar, Brightness Level, & Taskiller back every time. Analog Clock & Google Search survive reboots tho... O and I am using a fresh data.img as well.
[Touch CDMA General] mfpreach:
My Widgets are good.

Great rom!!
[Touch CDMA General] tatnai:
how are you rebooting? are you using the power off function and waiting (which does seem to take forever, but works), or are you soft resetting?
[Touch CDMA General] aross6:
what zimage, rootfs and intrid are you using? maybe I have a bad combo or something...
[Touch CDMA General] mantorp:
I can't hang up

I press menu and End call several times but the counter keeps chugging away as if I am still on the call this goes on even after the other person hangs up (didn't notice until 40+ minutes after the call). Anybody else have this?
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
push the red end button? it works for me 100% of the time.
[Touch CDMA General] aross6:
Zen, what rootfs, zimage, and intrid do you recommend using with this release for the Vogue?
[Touch CDMA General] mantorp:
Yeah I tried that too, but even so after the other person has hung up it should end on its own. Must be a dodgy combo of files I'm using. Love it otherwise.
[Touch CDMA General] tatnai:
I think it would be nice to have it removed as it gives more space to see downloads, etc when using the phone. But hey, I understand that it's not a priority, I would rather see other updates first if it is one or the other ;)
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
all the latest ones on vogue-android. there's a new rootfs.img all the way down at the bottom that I use. but you should be able to just use the android-1.5 bundle and just replace the system.img with xROM. anybody pair a bluetooth headset yet? it should work the same as in ion.
[Touch CDMA General] stinkbud:
I successfully paired my bluetooth earbud. It seems to work but I havent really played with it much. Great work zen. This changes the field for me, I am really looking forward to replacing winmo full time.

From my early observations, voice dial needs to be mapped with the bluetooth to really make it perfect. I will play with it today and post later on.

EDIT... played with it a bit, it works. I can answer calls and the mic seems responsive. I am not sure which mic is active for voice dialling, the phone or the bud. Also, once you turn you bud off, it will not reconnect properly, you have to pair it all over again as if a new earbud.
[Touch CDMA General] mfpreach:
Ya I don't use winmo anymore. My NFS rom is collecting dust. Especially with this and vilord's ion releases.
[Touch CDMA General] cmus:
working on Kaiser

Anybody using this build on Kaiser? I have tried every combination of files with it and can't fix my problems posted earlier. Many apps force close and I have periodic trouble with data and market. Enatefox - you out there???

Edit: Just fixed one of my problems. APK files in the AndroidApps folder weren't installing. This, it turns out, was a result of how I saved them there. I used Appmanager to backup all my apk files, then I moved them to this folder. Appmanager added version numbers to the apk files so, for example, sherpa.apk was listed as "sherpa 1.2.1.apk" and the AndroidApps folder couldn't recognize this longer filename. Changing names to shorter ones is working. Hope this helps someone else.
[Touch CDMA General] niccoswe:
This build is working great on my Polaris. The fastest build i have ever tried.

This is what i'm running:

HTC Polaris (100)

ROM: 3LIT3_VIII_Naked

RADIO: 1.59.44.02

rootfs-26-08-09.img

zImage-26-08-09
[Touch CDMA General] niccoswe:
How do you change size of the swap partition and change swappiness?
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
i don't reccomend using that rootfs.img. the newest rootfs.img at vogue-android will do just fine.
[Touch CDMA General] refthemc:
Ya i was actually gonna use the updated files today, main reason i switched to that old rootfs is because i was tired of always having to wait for the Homescreen to reload...
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
I put up a rootfs.img that sets up a 96mb swap file that based off the newest rootfs from vogue-android if you want swap.
[Touch CDMA General] aross6:
According to Zen on how to set up userinit.txt: "you can comment out the compcache by putting a # infront of ramzswap. then if you want to increase swap go to the part up top where is says something like dd if= of= bs= count=32 and change count 32 to 96 and save the file. make sure you don't save it as a word document. it has to stay as a plain txt file"

Hope this helps all who need some guidence on userinit.txt!
[Touch CDMA General] mfpreach:
One thing I noticed about this build other than its greatness, is that it doesn't power off or reboot when I select that option.

I don't know if this matters, but I always thought it is best to unmount devices and then reboot.

Thanks.
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
it reboots/powers off your just not waiting long enough.
[Touch CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
i love this version man, please don't get rid of it! first image ive run for more than 4 days on my vogue. i do have a request zen, can you redo this image with the audiopara hack to make the in call and volume louder?
[Touch CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
i found a few bugs that has sent me back to winmo for now, not sure if it's just with your image or not?

1.) dropped, calls sent right to voicemail without the phone ringing. im also on 3.42.50 radio with sprint. fine in winmo too.

2.) data connection keeps dropping if the phone is idle, have to reset via modem. also no issue sin winmo.

3.) battery life is prety bad, might be my phone though? :(
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
haven't had any of those problems with it. i used it almost non stop all day today and it wasn't even fully charged last night. of course i don't get that many calls so i can't test that. but data stays up for me. but it seems like everyone experiences different things.
[Touch CDMA General] stinkbud:
I have been playing with this a little, I am curious about other users' experience with bluetooth. I have been noticing random reboots back to WinMo while experimenting with the bluetooth (this may or may not be bluetooth related, I have had occasional reboots out of nowhere on other android builds as well). I also notice difficulty finding some earbuds upon device scan.

Another thing I have noticed, although this has nothing to do with bluetooth, when I go to settings menu, I am unable to use the camera button to go back to the previous screen. It took a bit to find a work around for this. I have to hit the green call button to get to the dial menu and then actually make a call. The call doesn't have to go through, it only has to be initiated and hung up on, i usually just call my voicemail. Once the call is terminated, then the camera button scrolls back to prior screens.
[Touch CDMA General] craig0r:
I also haven't had any issues. In fact, I've been quite impressed with the battery life, probably the best build I've seen for it.

Although I also want to note the issue of the phone not doing a "Power Off." I just tried now, and it rebooted instead of powering off (not a big deal, but it is a glitch) although yesterday I did a power off and waited at least 3 minutes, and it didn't do anything. So the "power off" function seems intermittent at best.

Not that I'm complaining, this build is great!
[Touch CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
well i formatted and partitioned my sd card. half for winmo and half for just android files. what do you guys recommend as the most stable files to install on the card along with this specific system image? i want the best experience i can get along with speed and no issues. im prepping myself for when i get the htc hero in a month or so. :)
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
I'll look into the power off issue this weekend while I redo the build.
[Touch CDMA General] weid83:
Do you think you could make a kaiser bundle with wifi for this ROM? Also for some reason vogue-hero downloads page on google no longer has any download links? Thanks a million!
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
There already was a kaiser wifi version. PM enatefox if you want it.
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
I put up a new xROM at vogue-android. It's squashfs so use the new basefiles package. No much changed just a different browser and minor tweaks.
[Touch CDMA General] plemen:
Fantastic! I'm using this with the basfiles.zip and it is smoking fast! For some reason the last xrom started slowing down - I would browse xda, etc for a while and when I would go back to the home screen it would be laggy... this version has none of those issues (I admit it could be the versions of rootfs, etc that I was using). Also, this build would not use my last xrom data.img (force closes,etc) so I let it create a new one.

Really love this build - thanks for your work!
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
I'm glad it worked out. I've barely had time to tested it. It's the rom I use when I'm not messing with hero.