yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kimmo2:
23071 WM6.5.1 19th Oct

I've just installed the 23071 build (19/10) with Manila 2.1...

Thanks NRG for all your work.. it's great to see you cooking 6.5.1 ROMs :D

Regarding the volume control issue.. Not sure if anyonw has noticed this but I've found that if you diable the notification manager and use the microosft built one, it will have a windows symbol like the attached screenshot. taping this symbol launches the HTC Volume control..

This may not work for everyone (especially in full screen apps), but it's much better than the bundled MS volume control..

Other than that the ROM is working fine for me compared to the 18/10 one from yesterday..

Another small issue.. in the phone app, the launcher for the keypad is still the old skinny one from the 23016 builds.. maybe a taller and narrower one would fit in nicely with the new bar at the bottom?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ace10134:
I know CMD would say....Drop your phone and run for the hills!! Lol.

Idk, it sounds like your battery might just be dead? The ROM shouldn't prevent it charging like that. Huh, try a battery specialist, or flash back to the stock stuff, and tell the manufacturer to fix it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Phil750:
Yeah, same here. Doesn't seem to be charging ... Hmmmmmmm ... (Otherwise, bad-ass job, NRG!)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DirtyDre:
tmobile mms

hello i just flashed with the newest energy rom from oct 19th and i just want to try to set my mms to have a constant data connection....im tying to put this settings

Server Name: T-Mobile MMS

Gateway: 216.155.165.50

Port #: 8080

Server Address: http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc

Connect via: T-Mobile Data

Send limit: 300k

WAP Version: WAP 2.0

can anyone help to find out where i can edit this setting thanks for the help :confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Gman25:
mail setup

setup mail through manila go to mail tab do it from there. i use outlooks exchange it only works that way;).I try the other way same thing happen to me:(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] truffle1234:
guys I did not know that this thread was so exciting, that ppl were using all the F#@* words and all..... I am tired of the Manila 2.5 as well so I am back to the 2.1.. the more exciting thread....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Ramsfan_Jim:
So, having caught up on all the posts overnight (for me) - does the standard 23071 version work now? (I tried 18th version, but it didn't).

Activesync?

SMS?

Any other problems?

Does Bluetooth work successfully? (Remote headphone controls)

Cheers,
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] TreyDizzle:
Ok, im sorry but if txt messaging is broken in a "release" rom, there's something wrong.

the 10/19 "standard" apparently has a bug where sending is non-functional unless replying to a received text.

This makes the rom unusable for those of us who communicate 90% through txt messaging.

It's all free volunteer work so I won't complain other than to say that hello....kindof a big matza ball to leave hanging out there.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] zeroed:
I can confirm that that rom drains baterry very fast,almost 90% down for today,this morning the phone was on ac charger with full battery,now its about 10% remaining and plugged into usb not charging,i will switch to 11/10 version untill it's fixed.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aragorn771:
On 6.5.1 10-19...My issue is only activesync by USB...Bluetooth it's syncing fine, which on 6.5.1 10-17 it would bluetooth sync once in a while...

I have no mms/sms issues at all...

I do miss the nice icons on the 10-17 version, it's so what you expect from these ROMS.. Battery I have no real guage yet..but I've noticed that all the 6.5.1 roms I've used have been a little quicker on the batteries...I wonder if the activesync issue is a driver issue...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] benitton:
Send button Replies to All when keyboard is open

When replying emails (I use my TP2 instead of my office's blackberry so got a lot of emails) if the keyboard is out and in landscape mode, the send button turns to the reply all button. I just tried sending an email and I get the reply all button instead of the send button. Until this is fixed, what version of the ROM seems to be stable enough to use it in an Enterprise environment? Thanks for your efforts on this ROM, btw, it is AWESOME!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Montecristo:
This rom work in my TILT 2?????
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aragorn771:
Look what I found!!!

For those who are having activesync/WMDC sync troubles like I am...I just tried something that worked...With phone disconnected from PC, go to your settings panel in manilla, Hit Activesync panel opening activesync on your mobile, go into connection options, it should say all connection by USB, change it to bluetooth, connect USB and see what happens...it worked for me as I now can totally connect by USB where before I couldn't...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xenoscion:
I have this same problem. One way to fix it is start from landscape mode then press the envelope and you will see the reply icon not the reply all. Same goes with portrait mode if you start in portrait mode and use the soft keyboard you will see the reply icon and not reply all.If you switch orientation while composing an email it doesn't work.

As far as texts messages the work around is, select the contact and hit the text tab and you can send from their.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aragorn771:
Does anyone have cabs for the T-Mobile programs? or know how to get web2go to work at least? I downloaded a game from web2go and now that I've switched ROMS I lost it and can't redownload (I forgot the cab was still on the phone when I flashed!)...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] benitton:
Thank you! this is really helpful. Just to avoid having to work around the issue, do you know what would be a good fall back version until these bugs are worked on the latest ROM? Thanks again!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] truffle1234:
i am having issues with sms only... can type but cant send.. ca
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Gman25:
know bug

on 23071 thats one of the bugs. you can send text via contacts(go to contacts choice who you are going to send)it works that way only:D yeah i know thats more steps but it works!!

OH YEAH THE TEXT MSM ISSUES HAS BEEN DISCUSS MORE THAN ONCE ON THE LAST 40 POST! PLEASE READ TREAD BEFORE YOU ASK QUESTIONS
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] LordFuzzy024:
Keep up the great work. Used the site a bunch before i flashed my Tilt2.

Never drive faster than your Guardian Angel can fly....

EDIT: This was my 100th Post....:D:D:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Make sure you bury your phone out back first. No good running for the hills if the explosive device is still on ya.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xenoscion:
I would go back to NRG's Oct 11 build. My personal opinion is that these bugs are more annoyances than show stoppers am gonna stick with this one. I use mine in a corporate exchange environment but am a SA so I get to play with stuff a bit more than some guy in Sales. I think it's still hosted if not and if its ok with NRG i can re-host the Oct 11 2.1 Standard. My second build pick would be Miri's latest. Hope that helps.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] clauswl:
Thanks for your answer. I figured so much. I got a friend of mine to get the TP2 and convinced him to flash WM6.5 on it and of course suggested your ROM to be the best on out ther (latest 2.1 seem 99.999% bug free for me).

He loves it.

Thanks so much for all your efforts!!!! I have been around since the tmo mda, and crazy about xda since i got the wing last year. My wife has the wing with titanium on it (easier to use) and loves it.

Claus

P.S. I tried all the roms for the tp2, and yours rocks! Lots of cool apps and tools and stable (2.1-23016)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Neutron1998:
Can someone post the Youtube Proxy fix for the Tilt 2 with this ROM? I don't see the ProxyRemove utility under Tools.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] KewlRobD:
This thread is full of people telling others that they should not be complaining about the 23071 release because it is a beta and has many bugs that can't be helped. Based on the info I quoted from the 1st post of the thread how is someone new to Energy Rom's supposed to know this?

NRG himself says this is an official 23071 release and calls it "Release Quality." Also if you go to the hot file page 23071 Oct 19th looks to be a natural progression from 23016 Oct 16th.

So how can anyone here realistically expect someone new to this thread to know what to expect from the different Rom's if it is not clear on the front page. You can't expect that they will read almost 5000 posts to catch up. So they download what they think is the newest and stable release from NRG and then come looking for help when something doesn't work correctly for them. My advice is to fix the 1st few posts to be more clear as to what can be expected from each version.

Ace: I know it gets tiring to answer the same questions over and over again but you took this on yourself. You decided to play the role you play here in this thread so you can't get annoyed at others when it becomes tedious to do so. The thread is huge and daunting. Searching becomes very difficult because some of the terminology is redundant. So we do the best we can to search for the answer and when we can't seem to find it we ask. There is nothing wrong with asking.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] daytonow:
I want know .,.....the driver is 1.86.XXX or 1.85.xxx or 1.87.xxx

Driver 1.87.xxx speed is so fast
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] benitton:
Thanks so much xenoscion, I have a ton of emails that I usually have to reply from my device, so I think I will have to go back to the Oct 11 version. I actually keep previous versions just in case, so I have it, thanks for the offer though. I hope the shortcomings can be fixed shortly, no pun intended ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Gman25:
copy&paste dont work

i try to copy and paste my sign for my outlooks it doesn't work. oh well its beta:D i'm still keeping it :cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] HamSummit:
nearly perfect ROM!

I'd only like to have a UC in the ROM!! That would make it even better..

But thanks for the invested time..

Greets
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Neutron1998:
Does anyone have the fix for the YouTube Proxy Removal for the Photon 10/17 ROM?

YouTube will search but will not play anything.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] benitton:
customi weather location

Is there any way to add a custom location to the weather tab? I used the suggested cab in the Raphael thread, but after installing it and adding the location nothing happened in my TP2, any ideas? Thank you!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
First and foremost, ace almost never complains. Most of the time, he patiently answers the same g'damn question a trillion times... almost to the point I feel SORRY for those who actually have a legitimate question and have to weed through a billion of these exact same question/answers in an attempt to find an answer!

Let me make this plain for you and many others who seem to be unable to figure this out as this is what I do myself to avoid looking stupid:

1) If the ROM is released on a certain date, READ the commends/posts for the ROM released right before it as well as a few days after the release date. 99% of the time, this will inform you of all issues open before the current release as well as help you see if others have already spotted bugs for the current release.

(Your 5000 page complaint is thereby gone.)

2) "Release quality" has never meant bug-free in ANY software industry. You've heard of WinXP, Windows Vista, and even Win7 "Release Candidates" right? Do you think there will be ZERO patches after these "Release Candidates" are released?

(Your "release quality" complaint is thereby nullified.)

So, again, we've come full circle. Use the tools given to you by both this forum (search, dates, other users' feedback, etc) and the powers that be (COMMON SENSE, refer to attachment), and chances are, you'll greatly minimize your chances of looking like a douchebag.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] arthurbrownleeiv:
I second that... I've been looking for a way to get back to their "home page" or whatever so I could at least see if I could download and install it again...

Anyone?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Are you talking about 23016 10/17 STD or 23071 10/19?

I have been using 10/17 for 2 days now, and have not had any battery drain issues. Case in point, I pulled the phone off the charger this morning, used bluetooth (conference calls) and WIFI all morning, and currently have two chat clients open. At 12:30PM here in US CST, I still have 78% battery remaining.

(I have not used 10/19 23071 yet, so I cannot comment on its battery usage.)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] TweakMyDevice:
Here ya go. You have to manually add each city using the accuweather database code.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] CafeteriaMan:
Will it work?

I am new, and I have scanned through the forum; maybe I missed my answer. I have a stock verizon (cdma) TP2. Will this rom work for this phone. Please do not persecute me if this is a dumb question. Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] KewlRobD:
I agree with you that there are tools at our disposal but I just feel that those who are not as "forum savy" as others can easily get confused as to what version does what. The post the last couple of days have been very impatient.

I am not saying that "release quality" means no bugs but it is a confusing term for those not in the know. There is no reason to be rude when someone attempts to discuss such bugs in this forum. If they are being rude themselves and acting in a prvelidged way then they deserve it but other then that we are all just here to discuss the ROM's posted. The front page makes it sound like the 23071 release is the latest and greatest from NRG. NRG is well known for his excelent ROMs so when someone sees that a new ROM is posted and not particularly noted as being a beta then they will make assumptions. The tilt 2 just had it's public release so many people are coming here for the first time after they buy one. You and Ace are blinded by your own knowledge. I happen to have a nack for seeing things from the other perspective. So even though I know what versions mean what I understand that most people won't and that the current way things look is confusing to the novice.

Maybe Ace doesn't complain often but in the last couple of days he has been impatient with people asking questions. He has outright stated that he is tired of answering the same questions. Ya know what, if you don't want to answer a question then don't answer it. No reason to jump on someone for asking a question.

BTW you refer to my points as complaints. They are not complaints, they are just pointing out why so many people are a bit confused and lost in this forum. I am making constructive criticism's, not complaining. A simple update to the first few posts would go a long way to reducing the amount of redundency in this forum. But instead of listening to my ideas you prefer to bash my posts.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xenoscion:
You can get that here :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=550559&highlight=t-mobile+keyboard
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] arthurbrownleeiv:
Yeah, that is the keyboard fix, I'm talking the T-Mobile portal where you can buy apps/games/ringtones etc from them... That isn't my primary concern though, it is getting back the T-Mobile "My Account" application which showed how many minutes I have used and what my bill balance is.

Isn't a big concern, but I'm shocked not more people have missed it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
There is a "Search this thread" button at the top. Click on it, and type in "CDMA."

In Ace Ventura's voice... "AND THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE!"

(If that's still too confusing: http://xdaforums.com/search_rop.php?searchid=29341923)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] arthurbrownleeiv:
Agreed... I think there are some awesomely helpful senior members in here, but when you have members scared to ask questions, no matter how dumb, it shows there is a bad attitude lingering around...

I agree, people should search, and read, but telling someone to read a 5000 post thread for info is a bit much when in the same post you could just address their bloody question.

Also would make more sense to have a post or two at the start that someone like Ace and others could modify for what bugs are present in what builds.

Just small suggestions, and I do realize this site was created for the more technical developers and forum smart people, but with coverage like we are getting on wmdevelopers (NRG especially) we're going to see more and more people without a clue wanting legitimate help.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
I think you're missing the point. I understand there are forum "savvy-less" people. However, there is a big difference between those trying to learn and those that are TOO PLAIN LAZY to take 5 minutes and look for something before just posting a question.

I don't want to speak for others, but my main problem lies with the latter. The million dollar question is... how many do you REALLY think are just forum "un-savvy" and how many are just too plain lazy to do a little investigating before spamming a thread with more of the same? Take a little time to think that pickle over.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gehzumteufel:
#bal# #min# #txt#
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] arthurbrownleeiv:
Yeah, just saying there was an actual application to display that stuff. I know the dialing method of doing it, as I've used that for years.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] KewlRobD:
I don’t think I am missing the point. I have worked in the business of servicing end users for a very long time. You’re expecting too much, end users are simply not going to adjust to you. You need to adjust to them. arthurbrownleeiv had a great idea of you or ace having a post on the first page but I don't know if it is possible to do at this point. The end user is not going to look past the most obvious place for information. You may be able to educate a small percentage of users but it will be a very small percentage. The best way to reduce the amount of questions being asked is to make the most common information easily available. Maybe someone can start a FAQ page and have NRG link it in the first post. Then that person can update the FAQ page when they see the same question is being asked multiple times. I know this can seem like a lot of work when you feel like the recipients are ungrateful and are just being lazy but in the end if you want to keep this forum neat and organized then that is the way to do it with the least amount of work. It would certainly be better than having to bash someone for a redundant post or posting about a beta ROM. If there is a FAQ linked or posted on the front page and a person still manages to ask the same questions they truly are a very lazy person. In that case there could be a standard answer of “Check the FAQ before asking questions”. Like I said, I have been doing end user support for a long time, over 18 years to be exact, and this is my suggestion. I am a huge fan of NRG’s work and if there is anything I can do to help make this forum better and ultimately improve the usage of his ROMs I am willing.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gehzumteufel:
Kewl, I work in customer support, and no he is not EXPECTING too much, but he is giving people more credit than they deserve. He expects everyone to have the logic to actually figure something out for themselves, when in fact, they want it all done for them.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JVH3:
In response to both of these posts. You will likely get world clock issues if you use the cab provided by thedocrn.

In my signature, there is a link to a program that I wrote. The program that I wrote was also mentioned on fuzemobility.com.

The program has nearly 3000 users of the latest release.

It properly handles the timezone info.

Although it says Manila 2.1, it also works with Manila 2.5.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Thank goodness someone gets it. Shame on me for expecting an ounce of proactive-ness from forum users on here who, for the most part, are getting this wealth of info and software for FREE!

Look KewlRobD, just because you worked in customer service for a great portion of your life and are used to bending down to the "lowest common denominator" doesn't mean that's what everyone else should do. If it helps, I do agree with you that NRG's ROMs are incredible. While we're on that subject, don't forget that while they do accept donations, most of what he does and the support he and ace offer on here is FREE. So, unless they are getting paid consistent wages (like you were I'm hoping in those 18 years as a customer service rep), to ask them to bend over backwards time and time again for just plain ignorance or laziness is ridiculous.

And for the record, yes, I personally choose to stay quiet on here when someone asks the same question for the trillionth time. Usually, 9 times out of 10, ace gets to it and answers it quickly. But, does it come up in the back of my mind, "Gee, if this thread wasn't cluttered with all these repeat questions, wouldn't it be so much easier to find the info I actually need?"

You betcha!

In fact, the only time I've actually told a user to "get a clue" was last night. If you look a page or two back (don't worry, not making you peruse through "5000 pages"), you'll see that this gem of humanity logged on here, demanded to have his questions answered on his very first post in this thread, and ended every question/vague statement with an '!.' So, while I find the repetitive questions on here annoying and borderline counterproductive to the purpose of this forum, it's only the real thorns that I bother telling to STFU.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Excuse me...

Hello to everyone,

First of all sorry if I sounded like I'm lazy. Before this post I only posted 5 times. And just getting the hang of this forum so to cmd512 I apologise if I sounded like i'm lazy. I'm more blind than lazy I have to admit.

I only ask for where I can download the ROM because I missed it in the first page. But I'm ok now though.

But I like this forum it helps me a lot.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] KewlRobD:
Well you just proved my point for me, "They want to all done for them" and that is the typical user attitude. But the approach here is to try and change that behavior. It is a losing battle, which is why I have been suggesting for some time now that a more organized means of supplying information be created. I tell the same things, sometimes to the same people on a daily basis. This is life as a support person. Which is why I go out of my way to create documents and what not that I give to my users. I am not trying to be combative but rather I am trying to be helpful. The easier you make it for the end user the easier you make life for yourself.