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[Touch HD Themes and Apps] zenkinz:
you can use the threaded messaging within the winmo app.

sorry, I'm a retard so I can't help you any more.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] xenocide976:
bro... dun get me wrong... i'm not saying u... i mean the winmo app from HTC.

the default one works but the messages does not arrange according to time of receiving and sending... so when u look at it, its pretty messy...

i pop over hoping with ur app i could get back the old 6.1 style of SMS.

i apologise if u felt offended by my previous post. Sorry. I dun mean u, seriously.

:( :(
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] _ray_:
tried it today, have a issue where GSM is written in front of all messages i receive.

Any Solution ??
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Steve0007:
Thnak you it works like a charm, got the counter, can send receive sms/mms now on my topaz just installing the cab you have posted yesterday w/0 adding any reg,

Cheers and thank you :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] zenkinz:
sorry, wake up on the wrong side of the bed today, so I was too edgey and respond wrongly to your message.

To your problem, honestly, I don't know what's the reason because I have never come across this problem. I would suggest that you try another ROM (by another cook) and check if you have the same problem. I understand that folks running Topaz ROM by Dutty has no problem, so maybe you want to check.

As to the app, when you install this app, the default SMS app is the old 6.1 style of SMS. As long as you are not clicking on the message on the manila tab (which will bring you to the application that shows all your interaction with the said contact, i.e. email, sms, phone, etc), any reply or new message (from the right softkey menu) or accessing the sms app (from the left softkey) will bring you to the winmo app.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] zenkinz:
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I ever encountered once before, and that's when I was doing research to see which offending registry key to enable/disable HTC messaging.

I can't remember which registry I can meddled, but can you check your registry path and let me know what you have

hklm\comm\cellular\SMS\protocol?

also, did you set your SMS service to be sent/received via GSM or GPRS?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] xenocide976:
its ok bro... i'm running Topaz ROM by Dutty also. anyhow... i will try ur way tomorrow. All the while i was clicking on the message on the manila tab. i'll try reply via left and right soft keys. will let you know again tomorrow. thanks!!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] fieldop:
I'm sorry if the same question has been asked but I don't recall reading it, is there a fix for the led flash notification light thingy?? after I installed the cab, the lights won't come on no more. but everything else works just fine except for the time stamps...the time stamps of the texts I sent and the texts I received are from like 2 different time zones, and neither of them is correct, any help/tips will be much appreciated! thanks loads in advance.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] kal8:
I have the same problem... anyone knows how to fix this?

(Im using the latest EnergyROM Leo)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] BuddyLee:
Im using the latest energy rom ... "6.5|ROM|WWE| ★ EnergyROM "Leo" (23016) Sep 23 ★ Latest Manila 2.5 / Twitter Tab! ★ " and both versions of the cabs dont work for me on the xperia x1. I even went to registry edit it and everything seemed normal for me but i still got the htc messaging app enabled.

Thanks in advance for your help.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] xlinkx:
I don't think this app works with the latest version of manila 2.5. It doesn't work for me either.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] BuddyLee:
guess we gotta wait it out, and the funny thing is this is my first energy rom and im like whoa this rom is insane its basically flawless. Then i synced my txts with myphone and got brought back down to earth. But that nrg rom is some good stuff in there ... i cant wait for a fix.

I was debating on installing vito sms in the meantime. U got any experience with that?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] xlinkx:
You can use manila 2.1 version of EnergyRom. That ROM is flawless.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] BuddyLee:
Yea im doing that as we speak, ill just flash it for now then when i wake up in the morning ill do my apps and other syncing 2:30 am here.

Anyway, thnx for your help and good luck to you brother.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] iky10:
any1 able to get this working on miri rom 23053 manila 2.5
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] zenkinz:
the problem is due to the Messaging service that's being disabled. I have to disable the messaging service, otherwise all the messages will not be able to sent via the winmo app.

I am doing some research on the service library files and see i can turn it on w/o affecting the sending of sms. But don't expect too much from this research, as I can see it might be beyond my control.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] BumAround:
I'm usually in between udK's or dutty's ROMs. Last time I tried your v1.1 on udK's R2, the small green buble with number of message(s) indicator next to the icon won't appear, only the white icon on the top bar will appear. Also, if the device is on standby mode, it won't wake up upon text arrival.

I've done all of the steps you prescribed, no success.

Darn the crappy HTC messaging! I wish LEO has the stable UI from Manila 2.1.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] zenkinz:
did you install the cab, or you just manually edit the registry?

if you didn't do the former, it contains a patch utility program that will update the unread count.

text wake up message is not something within this hack scope, i think you can look for the solution that's already discovered by other fellow foruemrs.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] xenocide976:
hi zenkinz... just wanna pop over and say that its working perfect now. I'm on Topaz using Dutty's Leo R1.

Thanks for this small but great app!

I'm from singapore too

:)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] iky10:
doesnt work on miri test rom 23053 2.5 manila
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] teddysing:
oh!! that's very good post for me,

i finally get rid of the slow HTC messages :)

it's works perfectly in my HD....EnergyROM Leo!

thanks agains.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] alhuang69:
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[Touch HD Themes and Apps] imRa|lm:
first of all, nice work zenkinz!!!

is there absolutely no way to include the htc messaging from the 2.1 manila into 2.5 manila?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] thebigbang:
doesnt work for miri's rev 9 rom.. :(
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] o2crazy:
Hi Guys,

I've tried this on the lastest ROM from EnergyROM LEO with the twitter tab.

But it does not work. Any guys can confirm on this?

Sigh..
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] maesus:
Version 1.1 doesn't work well; try with Version 1.0 instead. In fact, I stick with 1.0
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] fieldop:
none of the cabs work with udk's leo r3, can anyone confirm this? and help please..?? thanks!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Buembel:
hi

what do you guys mean with "doesn't work" does it not deactivate it or can't you receive sms?

Because I got it deactivated, but I cannot receive sms :confused::confused:
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] scythe000:
I running Dutty's Leo R2, and it's working poorly for me. No sms/mms notifications, or spotty notifications, I can't view any MMS content, and it locks up now and then.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] fieldop:
...looks like we'll need to find another way to disable the htc messaging and get wm messaging to work...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] zenkinz:
this is untrue. I've it worked with R2 Leo before so while I'm not sure with the latest ROM, I can say this statement is not true and most likely a conflict caused by other registry tweak.

For the rest, I can't troubleshoot everything by myself because I don't have time to flash every ROM to troubleshoot.

You have to tell me what are you facing (screenshots, action taken, etc) instead of just telling me it's not working and expect me to fix it for you??

Sorry for the rant...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] kimmo2:
Incorrect steps?

I think I have followed the steps wrong..

I had first blindly just installed the v1.1 cab and restarted.. then I realised that the registry edits needed to be made first so i uninstalled it and restarted then I followed the steps for the registry edits..

Just to confirm the steps becuase step two was not very clear to me:

1- Locate the "HKLM\services\MSG" key and change it's "Dll" attribute's value to anything else (eg: MessagingService.dllx)

2- Locate "HKLM\system\inbox\externalaccounts" and rename the subkey from SMS to SMS.htc

3- install the cab

4- restart

I did all that and now when i go to the SMS tab in manila it shows me my sms's.. when I click on the "all Messages" softkey at the bottom it loads into the htc messaging app and takes forever..

If i open a contact (within manila) and select to send that contact an sms from the first tab in the contact viewer.. nothing happens..

It is not opening up tmail.exe at all... have I missed something? where am I supposed to redirect windows to use tmail instead?

I am using EnergyROM "Leo" (23016) Sep 23, Manila 2.5
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] fieldop:
The cab file will no longer even disable the htc messaging in udk's lek r3...worked fine for me with the r2...=(( dont understand why its not working no more...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] iky10:
miri 23053 test version does not contain tmail.exe, check if that exists first..other wise it doesnt work...

edit: it does have tmail.exe whe you run it it opens up htc sms, maybe its has the other settings missing like outlookenhancement
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] maesus:
kimmo, I'm also using Energy "leo"ROM Sep 23 M2.5. I only installed version 1.0 cab. Version 1.1 cab does not work (SMS & MMS cannot send and receive). and I did not do any registry tweak manually. The reason is version 1.0 has already included those registry tweak in the cab, and SMS and MMS are working OK with tmail.

zenkinz,

however, here are a few problems:

1. pressing "All Messages" in the M2.5 still bring up the HTC messaging view which slows down the whole system.

2. pressing "send message" from a Contact detail only brings to "select number to send message", after click the mobile number, it doesn't bring to anywhere. Is this expected behavior? If possible, can make it link to tmail?

3. Clicking message from M2.5 "Messages" tab takes to the old M2.1 style threaded-view text messages. However, this old M2.1 style text message "Send" function does not work - it cannot send SMS out.

3b. at the old M2.1 style view, MMS messages are shown with a button supposed to open up Tmail, which is good.

4. clicking the "new message" button at the top right corner of the "Messages" tab in M2.5, will open up the HTC Messaging instead of Tmail. Is it possible to link this button to Tmail?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avicoh12:
hi , this is nice CAB

i just installed v1.1, restarted and all works great, i haven't changed any reg issue as i should have done

i just don't have mms option...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] iky10:
which rom are you using.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avicoh12:
[PDAVIET][WWE]BLACKSTONE WM6.5 ROM V64 (Core 23053) w/ LEO-MANILA/FOOTPRINT/
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] iky10:
i know its works in that rom, what about miri test 23053 manila 2.5
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] taox:
I like this tool!!! thx!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] lukzke:
It doesnt work for me i am using the latest l26 rom. the v2 does somebody know how to fix it ? i think it because there is no such ting in the reg as sms.htc

Thx!!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ISoree:
maybe a extra app that does the problem? got that version also today flashed and disable htc messaging works fine for me... sorry
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] lukzke:
did you use the 1.1 version ?

Got it working but if i press all messages in manila i get the htc messages app replay delete do work, when i pres new i get the htc messages send app
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] mshagg:
This is a fantastic little tweak.

Does anyone know how to take it another step further and replace windows messaging with a 3rd party SMS app? Ive changed the link in the :MSINBOX registry entry without success :(
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] !SINGH!:
status icons?

totally off to one side.... but what are your status icons? what pack?

Thanks...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] xlinkx:
This doesn't work with NRGZ's latest Leo ROM. Is there a new patch for this?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] zenkinz:
ok guys, I've found out that it probably has problem with the latest manila version 1.1919.xxx. anything that's 1.1918.xxx and below will work fine.

that said, I noticed that the default wm messaging is correctly setup, i.e. if you tries to send message using the normal windows contact app, it'll bring the good old wm app. it looks like it's the menu that's hardcoded to the htc version (I cannot confirm, but that's my suspicious right now) so I need to look at the manila files to see if there's away to revert back to the old wm app shorcut.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] zenkinz:
good news (at least for me),

I've made some registry on my 1919-based HD, and now Windows Mobile Messaging app will be activated when I press the left (all messages) or right (new/reply/forward) softkey in the messaging app.

I need more testing to verify the exact keys that's affecting this, but if you are willing to try and error, I will post the key shortly.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] hinds:
I vote that you do more testing then release. I switched back to a 1918 ROM awaiting a fix and I certainly hope that when I go through the trouble to upgrade to a 1919 ROM that there is a better chance of it working. I guess people struggling with a 1919 ROM may have a different opinion.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] zenkinz:
it's working fine on my 2.5.11919 manila-based ROM so I'm releasing version 1.2!

see first post for more information
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] bnm7bnm:
Thanx working good on manila sense.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] lukzke:
new patch works great
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] FabianNL:
New app is working great in Dutty's R5, thank you very much!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] iky10:
zenkinz you are the man works on miri test rom 23053 manila 2.5...finally i can import the txts from pimbackup..

edit: at the end of txts it says "GSM"

again zenkinz you are the man...saved me alot of time flashing different roms.

just imported about 3000 sms working perfectly... :) smiles all over

I think this should turn into a sticky...it will alot of ppl.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] taox:
I like this patch!

but... my text message has "GSM" suffix.

how to fix it? my friend.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] jab1a:
Thank you for this patch!

Im using (Sept 28)L26HDLEOV2_WWE_WM6.5 23016 and your v1.2 did not work but then tried your v1.2 and it worked a treat on both softkeys, totaly frees the phone up and is now flying along.

I also think this should be a STICKY because it has helped me more than once and is essential.

Like the last POST and others, I have GSM or CDMA prefixed after every text, I have done a search and cant find any information to fix this, as anyone else found out how to hide this? it only started since I installed v1.2 it didn't happen on v1.1

Again thank you for this and your time
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] iky10:
i think the GSM or CDMA is not much of an issue its telling you what kind of network your using, the main thing is winmo sms is back and should stay as it is..until MS them selves make changes...i think every Rom Chef should make winmo sms as default...so Pimbackup works also MS Myphone. Also this has fixed the bubble issue showing 1 text remaining in Miri Rom 23053 manila 2.5 maybe work on other Miri roms.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] zenkinz:
can you and folks who have this problem confirm that you have these registry updated (to disable the service)

HKLM\Services\MSG --> DLL value is set to disable/deleted

HKLM\Services\OutlookEnhancement --> DLL value is set to disable/deleted

HKLM\System\Inbox\ExternalAccounts --> SMS key is delete

HKCU\Software\HTC\bootlauncher\services\ Outlookenhancement --> Module value is set to disable/deleted

I think I have the solution, but I want to be sure the above are cleared before giving you the solution.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] maesus:
I'm using EnergyROM Genesis (9/23) (M2.5.1919xxxx) with Version 1.2. Now confirmed that "All Messages", all "Menu" softkey items and also the "New Message" icon button at top right in M2.5 Messages tab are working fine. This is so much better now!! THANKS A LOT!!! :D

However, when I tap on the message itself, the Manila 2.1 style HTC Messaging open up and show the SMS in threaded. "Back" softkey is working, but "Menu" softkey does not popup anything. I also try to use this M2.1 style to reply SMS, however it didn't send through even though it appeared to have sent through (no notification and NO "failed to send" notification, but message has saved in "Sent Items").

Hope this description is good enough. I can only request that by tapping the message at the M2.5 "Messages" tab, can take me directly to the WinMO SMS threaded view. Is it possible to do? :rolleyes:

Thanks!!

FYI, my reg: (I don't have the GSM suffix problem)

HKLM\Services\MSG --> MessagingService.dll.disabled

HKLM\Services\OutlookEnhancement --> OutlookEnhancement.dll REMAINED!

HKLM\System\Inbox\ExternalAccounts --> empty

HKCU\Software\HTC\bootlauncher\services\ Outlookenhancement --> OutlookEnhancement.dll REMAINED!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] tabannis:
Same as above for me on NRG Energy Rom Leo (23rd Sept) but I did have the GSM issue. Also, I can't get threaded SMS back after installing the fix but this is a minor issue now the crappy HTC application is gone.

Edit: Interesting, used the threaded SMS cab and I now have a mixture of HTC and Non-HTC messaging and all my Registry settings are fine and threaded SMS is back.

New Message button: Opens Outlook

All Messages soft Key: Opens Outlook

Select an individual message in TF3D: Opens HTC App

Pressing Reply from a notification: Uses Outlook

When I remove the threaded SMS cab, nothing changes. I am 100% sure I got outlook when selecting an individual message before installing the CAB
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] iky10:
i think we share the same opinion the htc messaging is crap and slow, also not compatible with pimbackup and ms myphone.

Test Rom Miri 23053 manila 2.5

HKLM\Services\MSG --> MessagingService.dll.disabled

HKLM\Services\OutlookEnhancement --> Does not exist ( Did not exist prior to the patch )

HKLM\System\Inbox\ExternalAccounts --> Empty

HKCU\Software\HTC\bootlauncher\services\ Outlookenhancement --> Does not exist ( Did not exist prior to the patch )
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] fieldop:
i dont have either of the outlookenhancements in my registry...and the sms kep is not deleted, so wats your solution?? thanks!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] zenkinz:
you see SMS key under ExternalAccounts key? What's the value underneath SMS key?

did you install the CAB, or you did the registry changes manually?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] d.cortez:
installed and working on miri v 9.1. reg keys show as follows:

HKLM\Services\MSG --> DLL value is set to MessagingService.dll.disabled

HKLM\Services\OutlookEnhancement --> DLL value is empty

HKLM\System\Inbox\ExternalAccounts --> SMS key is deleted

HKCU\Software\HTC\bootlauncher\services\ Outlookenhancement --> Module value is empty.

other feedback:

as others have mentioned, the All Messages Key still opens the HTC Messaging app

tapping the message from the HTC Message tab opens up - what looks to be - the older version of HTC Messaging app (did this for testing only)

New Message menu selection and Icon open TMail.exe (will be changing to SMSChat.exe).

txt msg counter bubble appears to be resetting as messages are read. i assume that the SMS Patch.exe is controlling the msg counter reset?

thanks for the tweak! will add feedback if i encounter problems.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] eddyve:
contacts

Thank you for this great tweak. Ia m now on PDAViet V64 now and it works perfect. However, I have a question. When I open a contact, I could click on "send Message", then it opened sms with the number (name) already in the "To" line. This doesn't work anymore. Dialing from a contact card still works. I guess it must be that the HTC software in interfering. Nevertheles, am I the only one? Is a solution available?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] fieldop:
i didnt do anything to the registry, i only installed the cab file(1.2) the hrc msging is disabled but its got gsm suffix on the messages now..and the key in external accounts say SMS.htc and the there is nothing underneath that.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] iky10:
concerning the GSM suffix i dont get it no more...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] zenkinz:
I found out that if you had sms in your HD before applying the tweak, when it 'migrates' to the Winmo text messaging app, it'll suffix the GSM to the message.

fieldop, can you confirm that new SMS received after applying the tweak, is still suffix with GSM word?

yes the send message from the contact will not work. It's due to a service I've disabled, and if I don't disable it, you'll not be able to send the SMS from the winmo app, so it's a catch 22 situation. I'm trying to work on a fix for that, but it's going to be tough.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] iky10:
pimbackup doesnt work properly...it backs up sms & call logs..when you try to import them it says file is corupt.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] fieldop:
everything seems to be working fine now, but i've still go problems with the time stamp, they're not right, has anyone got any ideas? thanks!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] zenkinz:
sorry Ithink you will get better support in the pimbackup thread.

I personally think Microsoft MyPhone service does a good job in backing up my text messages.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] kva:
Is there any way to have MMS working with this tweak ?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] taox:
I can't use MMS with 1.2 patch.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Alkerion:
Hi,

V1.2 work rather well on Dutty' LEO R5, except that the Menu doesn't open anymore and that the cursor carret si not visible in the answer text box.

BR
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] JamieKitson:
Excellent

Thanks for that. Does anyone know if I can get a threaded view in Windows Mobile 6.5? I heard talk of a cab, but I can't find any info.

I also have the GSM suffix, I can send my registry settings if you'd like.

Cheers, Jamie
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Im Packing:
Installed on Energy Rom Leo and works, BUT having problems within SMS folders. Menu button doesn't work. And it sends and receives MMS, but it also sends and fails at the same time and puts it in the draft folder. Couldn't pull up keyboard to SMS either, so for now...I removed it and will reinstall later when I don't need my SMS during the day.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] JamieKitson:
It seems that new texts I receive are threaded, it's just the old ones that are not.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Chris Cross:
WOW - THANK YOU!!!!!!

I was looking to see how I could go back to using WM SMS app. I have never cared much for the HTC sms app.

As of today, I am using Duttys HD WM6.5 Leo R5 ROM on my Touch HD, and after following your 4 steps in the first post, it worked beautifully. I'm sooo happy. :D
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Chris Cross:
I have a question. When I type an sms, I can double-tap to select a word or I can triple-tap to select the entire message. However, I cannot tap and drag to select a range of words like I used to do in WM6.1. Is that an issue with WM6.5? I know it was the same when I used the HTC app before following your steps, and so I thought it was an HTC thing, but maybe it's not.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] xda_fanboy:
Search for TrustTimeZone reg edit. That should fix it.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] _JuSteR_:
latest version working, but start menu icons disappeared :confused:

-EDIT-

nevermind, seems to work now
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Lucas0511:
ChrisCross has a good point, with the limited editing options in Messaging I actually need your patch right away! Happy to report that your 1.2 perfectly patches Miri V10 (WM 6.5 21864) M2.5
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] zenkinz:
its most likely a wm6.5 issue, as I only modify to bring back the sms app, which remains intact and are not modified in any shape or form.