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[Touch HD Themes and Apps] somchai15:
Hi,

unfortunately this doesnt seem to work at all with the Miri Rev 7.1 ROM.

I tried to install the entire cab as well as the SMS Patch by itself (separate of course and resetting in between).

Once the SMSPatch exe is active I can't send/receive sms at all anymore.

Once all is un-installed send/receiving sms works again (= its sure the SMS Patch exe that kills my Messaging fm working at all :().

Guess I have to life with the fact that I won't be able to get a message count via the "Text" Quick Link - as long as I keep the Messaging Touch Flo Tab unloaded.

Thanks for yr effort anyhow - and I hope it works with other ROM's.:cool:
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] zenkinz:
SMS Patch by itself doesn't do any intrusive task to the SMS, i.e. it doesn't overtake HTC or Windows messaging, so I'm not sure why it doesn't work for you.

You should look at the manual steps I have documented earlier, to see what went wrong for you, because these are the key steps in order for a SMS application to be 'registered' as official messaging application in Windows Mobile env.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] somchai15:
Hi,

thanks - I checked in my Registry - and both entries as in yr Point 1 & 2 do not exist in my Registry...:confused:
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] mauriceheath:
Great work zenkinz, SMS Patch is working a treat here, now got unread count bubble and can send and receive texts with WM messaging. Still hoping you can come up with a working MMS solution but this isn't as important to me as having MSVC announce incoming messages which HTC messaging blocks.

Thanks for all your hard work!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] BigE:
Can't install the cab

I am using PhamQuang's V55 ROM (23041) and have manually followed the registry changes, but trying to install the cab, gets me a message it was unsuccessful. I guess there is an open file that can not be override..

Any idea? I tried turning everything off.. Did not work. Even after soft reset it does not. So currently I get it to be working without the count. Another annoying part is from the Manila window it still opens the HTC SMS...

BigE
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] m_the_chosen_one:
?

and what's the difference between HTC Messaging and normal WM messaging app ??
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] fireblade893:
Hi thanks very much for the CAB file.

I am running Dutty's Leo R2 rom with SMS Chat 1.25 but it would not allow me to send texts , I could only use HTC Messaging if in classic mode ,the threaded mode would not open the text.

I have just installed the CAB file now and tested it and SMS Chat now works again as does threaded chat in WM Messaging.

Very pleased about this as I was looking at other roms for phone as was sick of text problems. :D:D:D:D:D
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] zenkinz:
can you check what's the protocol in HKLM\Comm\Cellular\SMS? This is the one that determines how to handle incoming and outgoing SMS.

It looks like Miri does some tweaking that's not compatible with my findings. I have tried Dutty, NGR as well as PDAViet, all doesn't have any problem. I just didn't try this on Miri.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] zenkinz:
you know what's normal WM messaging, the attached screenshot is HTC's one.

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[Touch HD Themes and Apps] somchai15:
can you check what's the protocol in HKLM\Comm\Cellular\SMS? This is the one that determines how to handle incoming and outgoing SMS.

It looks like Miri does some tweaking that's not compatible with my findings. I have tried Dutty, NGR as well as PDAViet, all doesn't have any problem. I just didn't try this on Miri.

Hi,

there are a lot of entries there...all somehow connected to tmail.exe - however I still get the threaded HTC Messaging screen when tapping on the the Message displayed via TF3D (and if going for "All Messages" the normal WM Messaging).

Assume it has something to do with the tweaking Miri did and where he overlooked something somehow....no worries!

Tks a lot for yr efforts and support! :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] zenkinz:
what you described is the normal behaviour of messaging even in the manila 2.1, where a tap on the message in the message tab brings you to the contact's threaded messaging tab.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] zenkinz:
try this CAB just for the patch file if you have done the necessary registry editing.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] baadnewz:
Thx for the cab, just installed it on energyrom running on xperia, now i have mms. Thx again
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] iky10:
any1 tried this method, using this rom with htc messaging or others using the the patch provided here, disabling htc sms, import sms using Pim Backup or MS Myphone, and enable HTC sms by uninstalling the patch, does htc sms work smoothly, any feedback.

Edit: it works but msgs dont get display jus says compose, when scrolling up and down in manilla they show up, not when u go into it.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] xlinkx:
I wasn't able to rename SMS to SMS.htc in step 2. How do I remove the registry?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] vua777:
must do step 2 manual and it work, press new msg & all msg from manila bring the wm app on, great fix
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] taox:
i love this!

thanks!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] bb69:
Thanks for this, the new HTC messaging ap is really slow. I've read a few people saying that when pressing on any of the shortcuts to send a specific contact a message (like from the contact info tab or favourite contacts tab) nothing happens and then also read that it's a necessary compromise that's needed in order to disable htc messaging. But i've noticed that in the manila 2.5, if you add a shortcut to send a contact a message in the home tab it works, but if you have the same kind of shortcut in the favourite contacts tab it does not. Is there any way to change the behaviour of the shortcuts in the favourite contacts tab so that they work in the same way as in the home tab?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] sundancer:
Favorite contact ??

Hey. I like your work, GREAT.:) But i'm miss the feature in my favorite contact's. When I press "send message" nothing happend :confused:

I'm looking forward too the next opdate, please :rolleyes:

Keep up the good work.

Sundancer.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] o0adam0o:
Ive been searching all over for a way to disable manila sms... it takes forever to load when i tap on a txt message! However my phone is a Touch Pro 2 and i have stock sprint rom.... sorry for asking wrong forum but is there anyone tht knows of a fix for my phone? All the ones ive found work but seem to have an issue with displaying txt messages in laqndscape mode... it displays them as if they were in portrait mode.... any help appreciated guys.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] miniterror:
hi zenkinz

first off great peace of art:D

but since the last i cant send messages anymore:(

always when replying i get text message can not be sent

this whas always good before

i have reflashed multiple times and different versions of roms

i also tried it with version 1.1 from youre patch and 1.2 from youre patch

tried nrgz his 23-09(whas my backup rom wich i never had this problem)

a few newer versions of nrgz

and a few roms from xannytech

do you have anny idea what causes this problem

also somthing else i see is when i open a message the last restored messages one stands gsm behind it and the mesage after that cdma

i thought gsm and cdma where both different type of phones

anny ideas over that

see the first screenshot for gsm and cdma suffix

and the second screenshot for the error i get

best regards

miniterror

edit: those arnt disabled:HKCU\Software\HTC\bootlauncher\services\outlookenh ancement,

HKLM\Services\OutlookEnhancement

so disabled them manualy and still cant send sms:(

the gsm and cdmasuffix is gone:p

hard restted the phone again

installed everything and its working fine

restored all the messages and everything is fine

soft reseted the phone and it aint working anymore:S
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] miniterror:
update on post above

hi zenkinz

tried it over and over again

it is not caused by one of my installed apps

because did hard reset and then only installed version 1.2

and tried it again but also without succes:(

please any advise is welcome
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] zenkinz:
you shouldn't be using HTC messaging app to send out messages. Because HTC messaging apps requires the messaging DLL to manage SMS, and that DLL is being disabled by my CAB.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] miniterror:
well

dont know what happend but after about 40 hardresets and some changing between roms it works again:S
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] fieldop:
I found that the problem with the error notification about the "can not verify recipients" occurs again on v1.2...I some how fixed it...but I don't remember, some help please? thanks!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] miniterror:
and its screwed up again:S

think the problem is in microsoft my phone

gonna try and not use my phone only pimbackup

nope got it again

everything is working like im used to

after a softreset it scrambled and i cant send anymore:S
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] taox:
very nice! i like this tool.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Maknificent:
Does anyone know what version of arcsoft works with the Rhodium? Can you post the rom version also.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] JamieKitson:
miniterror,

Do not tap the message on the "Messages" tab, tap "All Messages" or "Menu" -> "Reply", this should give you the Windows interface. Are you still trying to use the HTC interface to send text messages? The whole point of this thread is to use the Windows native messaging interface, your pictures show the HTC interface.

Jamie
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] rotastrain:
how can i cook this in my rom ??

when i make a pacakge the exe gives a error on startup..

if i set the cab to execute on auto customization it gives timeout cause of the restart your phone confirmation!!!!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Chris Cross:
Is it enough to simply install the cab or do we actually need to do steps 1 and 2? It seems that the cab from step 3 also takes care of steps 1 and 2 on its own.

BTW - where is it that I can change between traditional and threaded viewing modes for sms in the WM native app?

EDIT:

Well, I saw that you can change the following registry entry for threaded and traditional views. But, I thought you could change it somewhere in the WM settings. In any case, this reg edit did not work for me. I still have traditional mode and I want threaded view.

In the registry

goto HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\OEM\

create a new DWORD SMSInboxThreadingDisabled with value 1 (enabled) or 0 (disabled)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] sedret:
I have 6.1 SUN Y MANILA 2.5 beta 3 and installed this .cab file...

The result? It return to the one noted (manila 2.1), message sent notification now working, delivery report too... So, all is wonderful now...:)

I just installed the .cab file in the device memory, no manual steps taken...;)

Thanks mate, veeeeery much...:)

EDIT: What I discovered is that when I pressed All Messages the menu->reply function went missing.... Only 'new' was available... I deleted all the messages I had and reply returned... Delete is missing though... Not that big of an issue...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] TheWebMachine:
I'm hoping this hasn't been discussed already...I attempted several search terms but couldn't find anything specific to my problem.

On both Dutty's Leo roms and Shadowline's series (both 6.5 230xx builds) for Topaz, I encounter the following problem: The SMS Patch app doesn't appear to be using unattended mode...so once the device has completely hibernated (for clarity, pressing the power button only puts the device in a "light" sleep, which isn't when the problem occurs...I'm referring to when the device goes into it's lowest power mode after a period of inactivity after the display goes off), it stops parsing incoming SMS messages...this results in no instant notification and, if the device is hibernating long enough, the SMS messages are never deposited in poutlook's inbox, even after the device wakes up.

I've tested this by sending messages to my phone after several periods of inactivity (5, 10, 15, 30, 60 min intervals, after screen off). I've also tested the timeliness of the SMS notification while sleeping and when woken up within a short time of receiving a message. If the device is hibernating, receives an SMS, and I wake it within 5-10 min of receipt, I will THEN receive the sound notification and such (the message IS time stamped correctly). I tried disabling the SMS Patch (moved it out of startup) but this completely kills all SMS notifications...which is no good either.

Anyone have any ideas?

I really dislike this new HTC Messaging crap...I wish HTC would put a little more testing into things like this...this one app within SenseUI ruins the entire damn thing!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ryousuke:
Hi mate,

couldnt you just remove HTCmessaging package from the kitchen before you cook?

thats what i'm going to do since its so slow cant even move between threaded sms's without it scrolling at an unbearable speed...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] WaveyKat:
when am using this tool i can't View my Picture Messages when i click on the picture nothing happens, but Picture messages works under HTCmessaging.. does anyone else has this Issue?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] CowMix:
does this cab work with the new official manilla?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] bnm7bnm:
worked great on all leo roms so far but now in version 19202525 there is one small bug:

when going to contact manila style > sms tab, it exits back to manila, this also happens when clicking on sms in main sms tab.

any solution?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] mengmengbug:
Got the same issue.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] miniterror:
yes i still use taht way

it works for a few days and then i have to instal it over and restore all my messages

it always worked normal for me that way

but hack im used to it now:p
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] o0adam0o:
I am so used to taping on a message and it taking me to windows threaded messaging (its like a habbit) which i loved ... dont see why they decided to go with manila sms which is slow and buggy and doesnt have spell check. :S

So theres no way to tap your message and go to threaded messaging right?

I tried a ab that does this but has alot of side effects since it files form an older manila... it makes your txt messages look like they r in portrait mode while ur in landscape... and i think the weather tab doesnt worl.

(I have TP2 with MightyRom manila 2.1)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] taox:
It's a nice tool.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] juju66:
Nice tool, YES! The spell fonction is endly completely back!

But what solution for MMS, I tried installing Arcsoft 5.xxx but it wouldn't work at all, Anyone a solution??

By the way, I've a TouchDiamond2 with Duttys Leo Holly Grail R0
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] juju66:
It's all right, have reinstalled and done a soft reset!!!

By the way I'm having "the issue", too; when in Manila, I'm clicking on the "black & white" sms and nothing happen, I have to tap "all messages"...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] magic280z:
I tried the latest cab in Dutty's Holy Grail R0 rom and now can't send/receive text anymore. Outlook is the default SMS app but it seems to lock up when attempting to send a message and isn't getting messages.

Thanks

Sam
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] psychopatoff:
10x man its realy working!)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] xborfi:
i have this problem too! any fix?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] maesus:
nope.

Use the old old Manila 2.1 if you wanna keep that function. :D
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] xborfi:
well that is not good solution since there is really no diffrence between manila 2.1 or even 1.3 sock one! manila 2.5 i better, in my opinion we should get V1.3 of zenyee patch which fix 2 other things :

1- When taping on SMS it either can go to Windows OEM messaging and show the SMS , or at least it doesnt DO anything!]

2-On All people when we selct contact and click send SMS it send SMS using WM OEM messaging!

as I am not programmer or technical so all the above may be done if it is possible with manila stracture! :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] kwill:
Do you have a cab to enable htc messaging for EVERYTHING text related? For some reason, my messaging when I tap text from titanium is opening the windows messaging inbox. When I go to this keyHKLM\system\inbox\externalaccounts the external accounts entry is missing. So, I'm thinking the rom chef may have deleted it.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] theory_87:
very good suggestion. wonder who can do it...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] weimingqing:
Great suggestion! Also wanna that feature if possible!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] JamieKitson:
MMS?

Is there any way I can run/use HTC's SMS/MMS exe manually occasionally?

I tried to search this thread but I don't seem to be able to search for MMS :(
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] deherrmm:
Registry Key Request

Ok, I learned a LOT about the tweak through this forum. My problem is, I went to another ROM, which has the HTC messaging app completely disabled. However, there was a registry key which would allow me to change what application opens up when I am on the HTC Manila Messaging tab and I click the compose new button on the upper right hand corner.

I know with Manila completely enabled it creates a new HTC Messages message. Currently it is going to ARCsoft, but I know the key would allow you to put in a path to an executable program.

Can anyone help?

I think it was in HKLM\services\MSG, but I cannot be sure. However, it did have 'compose' in it, if I am not mistaken
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] endorfin:
HTC HD2 (Leo)

Hi, I've got a HTC HD2 and been having some horrendous problems with manilla, I've got over 2000 messages and its been taking minutes, yes minutes to open a conversation.

I've applied your patch which has disabled it & I'm now using the WM messaging, thanks very much.

There is just one thing though, the touch screen doesn't seem to be as responsive, does disabling manilla affect the senseUI?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] msedhom:
I have just tried installing this on my HD2, and it doesn't work when i click on the message from the message tab. Could it be that windows mobile completely got rid of their messaging system in the hd2?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] xborfi:
shame on HTC that htc messaging even doesn't work on the powerful 1GHZ snapdragon's one. maybe it needs 200000000000 MHZ Cpu to work! WM OEM software can handle 20000+ SMS perfectly I tried that already. so the problem is poor programming of htc messaging.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] masrterk:
any chance to use htc messeng in manila 2.5 from manila 2.1

insted remove sms and use windows is better to use sms tab like in manila 2.1 ?

the problem is htc messenger is to slow in HD any way to get sms from manila 2.1 tab works on manila 2.5

thanks
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] deepthroat:
wow HTC! they always can find a way to make expensive mobile devices useless :D
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Cafun:
I have a HTC HD2 and I've got the GSM prefix.

Tried to sync text messages to Exchange 2010, but that doesn't work. I was really hoping this patch should resolve that. (But the GSM prefix is pretty anoying ;))
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] kavish:
HD2

I also tried this tweak on my HD2 with stock rom [NLD]. But indeed, it doesn't work well on this rom..

- The gsm suffix with each message is anyoning.

- Threaded sms (conversations entry) doesn't work for me?

I'm still looking for a good sollution for my sms messages (approx. 6000 messages :( )

So i read some post in this topic, and i found out that the '- gsm' suffix behind each message is caused by the ROM. So i gave my phone a hard reset. So a clean rom, no text messages and i applied the patch (netcf 3.5 necessary). This gives better results, threaded sms works as should, and NO gsm suffix.

Though i'm still trying to import my old messages successfully.

Microsoft My Phone keeps messing up the dates in the threading...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] bokechukwu1:
has anyone gotten the wm mms app to work by applying this cab i have been searching for it all over and no results, it doesnt have an option for mms in the menu anyone had any luck with mms on the newer 2.5 builds???
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] jadenquenza:
I works very nice on the OMJ Manila 2.5 rom.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] MaXyM:
v1.2 used on with EnergyRom 28003.

Works as expected but there are various calls from manilla which open HTC messaging window. For example klicking in People tab on contact under photo, opens contacts from HTC messaging

best regards.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] berniebennybernard:
Currently using OMJ's WM 6.1 21055 v1.1 with v1.2 of this application.

Works beautifully except I have to hit all messages for it to work.

Has anyone on that version managed to just hit the main message and it'd pop up normally?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] masrterk:
but vito sms chat dosen´t work with new manila 2.5 can´t send or recive sms

any way to make it work ?

even with disable sms to defolt wm dosent work ?

thanks
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Chu_bacca:
This is almost exactly the problem I am encountering, although I have received more than one SMS up to 2 to 3 hours later than the timestamp indicates as well as not receiving some SMSes altogether. Sending appears to be working perfectly fine. I am using Dutty's HG R0 and was wondering if anyone else had any ideas about this issue.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] taox:
It works nice!

I like it.

Thx!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] nopo:
Thanks a lot!

and one question:

i installed the 1.2Version on Dutty's R5 rom, if tap the message body ( middle of message tab), screen change white and back to normal, seems it can't call the tmail.exe successful? now i must to tap menu>reply to send message.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Vledderos:
Same problem with R7 ..:(
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] downesey:
same problem as both above. i load the stock messager (not htc messaging) but cant send messages. i so have to select reply, or all messages etc
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] DHSoccer4:
I am having a problem with this. It works fine except my messages are not threaded. any help?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] zimmicz:
Can be v1.2 used with manila 2.5.1921? If not, are you planning on releasing a version for this manila?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] profahmad:
This is excellent, thanks.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] 1999TL:
This is the exact reason I came to this thread! This would be great! I was looking for this solution. I Guess I can just get used to deleting messages. And for now, have the favorites go to the contact card instead of messaging(which I've been defaulting it to)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] gavinloh:
I would like to thank and put my experience here.

I follow the manual steps but step 2 is not valid. There is no 'externalaccount' folder/file. Thus, I proceed with the cab file. Run fine and restarted. It has GSM suffix behind older SMS. Deleted and new SMS do not have such issues.

Now, i am using hybrid text messageing between WinMo and HTC which is fine. Thanks a lot. I am running Energy Rom Rapheal 21877.

*I have screen issue on text message on normal HTC screen where the messages is slightly to the top and blocked the phone no/sender name.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] brade:
Where is v 1.3 ?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Shiv3r:
Isn't there a way to implement the composer from Manilla 2.1 into Manilla 2.5? (The one from the original rom)

If someone could make a .cab.

Would be great!

Greetz
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Donald24:
This patch actually enables SMS synching to my Exchange2010-box on my HD2 now!

All I did, was to follow the four steps on the first page, and to open up AS and enable SMS synching.

The GSM-Prefix was gone afterwards. Now I can compose SMS with Outlook 2010 or OWA, and receive SMS in my Outlook-inbox.

Great Fix!

Don
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Cafun:
@Donald24: Just to be sure: You've got also a HTC HD2?

Then I will give it another try :)