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[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spikegotti:
i think the omnia pro 2 is much uglier than the x2 even tho the x2 is ugly as well, anyway this episode is repeating again

p910=sexy

p990=ugly

p1=sexy

x1=sexy

x2=ugly

x???=lets hope they keep that trend bcos i want my winmo 7 device to be SE

obviously both beats the x1, i still love my x1 even tho i hate the fact SE deserted us with panel development, i wont be surprised if they do the same with the x2 users either

manipulative marketing i call it, tricked us and what? same panels available since the year 1735

i was doing without the x2, and now its here and aint look like a decent upgrade, i wont buy, the razr was slick, the x1 slicker, and i believe in the near future someone will bring something more sleek with winmo.

i just hope microsoft execs saw the GUI of the latest LG viewty, that is one hell of a UI, winmo 6 makes me feel like im still running Windows 98
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] poetryrocksalot:
I find it funny you think the p910 is sexy but not the X2. If you think the X2 is ugly then p910 should also be ugly.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spikegotti:
lol be realistic dude, back then the p910 was sexy, we all know it, looking at it now its ugly yes, but im speaking of the release times, during those times the devices were good looking

remember back in the 70s and 80s it was all about a datsun lol, looking back those cars are as ugly as sin
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sa7640:
Can't agree you more..!!!
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vietdoan20062006:
k608 > k800 > w880 > k850 > M600 > W960 > X1 >>>>> not upgrade to crappy X2. i really miss camera of K800/k850. its just awesome
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goldenchild7801:
Umm Datsun 510's and Z cars arent ugly bruh, and if i still had my p910, people would think its a new phone out. I actually miss my p910
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foxhound494:
Probably not. I'm cool with my X1 for now. However my next phone is going to be most like a Nokia.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hyellow:
well, just got myself an tp2 and it's a lot better than the xperia in almost anything. (Orelsi, no comments please :) )

I love the bigger screen, wich is flushed too, i love the slightly more RAM and it is noticable faster, the game Xtrakt runs way more smoother then o xperia for example.

The tp2 just is faster, believe me. Tf3d 2.5 runs o so smooth, can't believe xperia was hardware accelerated compared to tp2. I can continue on for a bit longer, but.... it's x2 thread, so....

But on topic, no, I won't buy the X2, simply because the tp2 is better in every way, except for camera, but hey, that's not so bad. TP2 is also more ergonomic.

So x2 has motion gaming? something like yari, that's nice,but of course, with tp2 form factor, the camera would be positioned much better for motion gaming.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ChrisXP27:
i dont bye it, i am waitong to import the panels in my X1^^
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] poetryrocksalot:
Touch Flo 3D on Xperia runs just as smooth as Touch Flo 3D on the Touch Pro2. In fact both phones show signs of lag when sliding the tabs (even a brand new Touch Pro2).

But other hardware on Touch Pro2 is better than X1. I am guessing Touch Pro2 is a good competitor with the Xperia X2
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Calvin H:
Nah, bit bummed over the processor.

Cause it makes it unlikely that it's gonna be WM7 compatible.

Am seriously hoping we get the rom on our X1 phones tho - that would be most of the way..sexy device + speedy rom - sweet :)
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] emuneee:
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x2-review-392p1.php
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xperia18:
i will not buy it...i think i will buy the x3 later...x1 rulez!!!^^:D
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XpErIaX1-IdOu:
Varities of OS with bigger screens

will go for satio (symbian) till racheal or should i say X3 or X4 kinda lost in Xperia brand now comes out cant wait for the 4" screen and Android on SE :p

:cool:
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rudegar:
symbian?

didn't nokia start to use a flavour of linux in their new high end models ?

leaving symbian as an os for their basic phone models
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sofacykel:
With all the problems I've had with the X1, i highly doubt it. :(

But if reviews rate it through the roof I might take a look at it.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BuddyLee:
If sony gives me an upgrade function to get the phone with a slightly better camera and minor upgrades then yes.

If not a definite no ... but i do know im buying a new phone by the end of the year.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tumpin:
They screwed the X1 up so bad I wouldnt get the X2 even if it was flawless, its the principle..

Its like going back to eat in a restaurant after they gave you salmonella

By the time the X2 is out there will be plenty of other phones to pick from.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] c_legaspi:
ive had some good luck with my x1a but i want bigger screen and better performance but i wont buy again.

i was eying the tp 2 pro but nothings really change except bigger screen.

i am eyeing out the nokia n900 but i am disappointed with cpu and ram.

i guess you cant have your cake and eat it too.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neosemsem:
I will wait for XPERIA with faster processor and WM7

Personally I will not consider buying new XPERIA until a model comes with WM7

X2 have a good omprovements , WM6.5. Video out, etc. but over all it's not good enough to move from X1 to X2 considering the device price too.

my suggestion. if you don't have XPERiA go for X2 if you have X1 already wait until they come with a new XPERIA with faster processor and WM7 at least.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrLeche:
Uh, maybe. Let me do the math by making this post a scratch paper:

Pro X1:

1. My X1 still does it's job for me.

2. I'm happy with it's frontal design as compared to X2.

3. I know to handle Windows devices so fixing apps and stuff won't be hard for me, hence, I've almost got everything I need right now on X1.

4. I'm not really convinced with SE's freaking advertising like "cpu way faster than X1" Didn't I just heard that when they announced X1's processor? And what now that the announcements still LAGS to me!

5. Better internal memory. For some reason, X2 was announced to have 110MB Don't you think that's the reason why these devices lag? I mean why don't SE make a 2 - 4 GB internal memory and then some expansion? I really dunno the technicalities.

6. I'm not fully decided on a few minimal added features on X2 I mean motion sensor dude if you dance or shake to play games on your phone why don't you get a Wii or something. You don't shake and break in your office at lunch or do you?

Pro X2:

1. The image stabilizer is really the convincing part for me, we don't have it on HTC X1

2. And since it's going to be SE, I'm hoping X2 would have a nicer camera and music enhancements.

3. The stereo speakers is another thing. I find my X1 really silent since I'm an architect and jobsites are really noisy and busy.

4. Better battery life - I'm not yet sure about this but X2 promises better battery life. I mean my X1 can stand 2 - 3 days with calls and text but if you start bluetooth or WIFI or even listen to music your phone won't last half a day. I mean what are these enhancement for if your battery can't handle it. The enjoyment doesn't last long and you end up looking for a wall outlet.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BuddyLee:
Mind you its the same battery in the much more power consuming device.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spine6:
The history repeat itself again... remember P900 and the P910i?
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] norti:
Definitely not. It is almost the same in hardware as the X1 and I'm not interested in the camera megapixel wars :) If the X1 can run the software/ROM from the X2 I will be very happy, but if it can't I won't be sorry too. I'm waiting for the X3/X5/whatever Android 2.0 Xperia and that will be the main unit to replace the X1 (or I'll keep them both :) )
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] acdata:
i have x1 i will not buy any other win mo phone until it has TEGRA inside.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SomeoneSimple:
No way i am getting the exact same phone with just a marginally better camera (which is a gimmick, in my opinion) and worse looks.

This phone better be damn cheap, because it cannot be compared to modern hi-end phones. The Nokia N900 is a forebode of what has yet to come.

The Tegra SoC is actually slower then the SoC's in the Palm Pre, iPony GS, Nokia N900, LG TG01, etc, since its based on the ARMv6 ARM11 technology, where the OMAP3's/Snapdragon uses ARMv7 Cortex-A8 for processing.

The only thing the Tegra can (probably) do better is better 3D acceleration and it has a dedicated HD-decoder. Since both the GPU and the HD-DSP requires propetairy drivers to function correctly, I do not think it would fare well on WinMo phones.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] norti:
OFF

The N900 is a brick, not a phone (it is an internet tablet to be precise) :)

ON
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shithead:
X2 has the same hardware as X1, besides Accelerometer & 8MP Camera.

But I love those panels, so I hope someone can export it for X1 ;-)

I'm a bit excited about X2, but not planning to buy it.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] acdata:
the HD-decoder is only thing that i want. winmo doesn't have app that need heavy processing power only multimedia app needs such processing power that tegra can handel it.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spikegotti:
time will tell if SE will treat us like how HTC treat their customers...if SE doesn't give us the 6.5 upgrade and the new panel interface due to the fact that both phones share the same hardware minus the new features...who would not doubt that they wont treat the x2 users the same way that they did with us when the x2 successor arrives???

no further support on this device will stop me from buying anything else from sony ericsson...its amazing how other makers already announced that they will give customers upgrades and SE haven't even said a thing about x1 users, its like they have pushed us off a cliff

the support is terrible, especially the fun and downloads section on the site, its depressing to see the same stuff there for nearly a whole year
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SomeoneSimple:
Maybe so, but its smaller then a Dream/TP2 ;) .

Nokia N900: 111 x 60 x 18mm, 181g

HTC Dream: 118 x 56 x 17mm, 158g

HTC TouchPro2: 116 x 59 x 17 mm, 179g

But it doesnt matter anyway, it was just an example ;) , and FYI, I don't care about being a phone or not, I never use my phone to call people i only use it for messaging/email/internet :rolleyes: .

AFAIK the TouchHD (which is released at ~ the same time as the X1) will not get an upgrade to WM6.5 either. (if i am wrong plz correct me)
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] c_legaspi:
N900

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_WlpCpwVq4&feature=player_embedded#t=13
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WhyBe:
I'm going to stick with my X1. Hopefully all the WM6.5 upgrades will be made available for it. Then when the WM7 phones hit the market at the end of next year, I'll be ready for something new. I'm not spending all that money on an X2 which is only marginally better. For me to upgrade, the phone has to be WAAAY better.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bronx:
I believe I've found my next device... I honestly though it's gonna look bigger, but actually it is quite compact stuff.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] axjiii:
Probably not. I wait for Android X3.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spikegotti:
i agree with u on most things except for this:

"To those of you moaning about the X2 because the X1 is more sexy, well enjoy your sexy badly designed phone. The screen is too small, it should have been flush not recessed and the whole phone is too narrow so if you try to write software to take advantage of the resolution - you find you have LESS usable space than an iPhone.

Seriously, the first thing I though when I got my X1 was "crap, I didnt realise it was THAT thin". Sure its a great form factor for a phone, but not a phone with a touch screen. It also forced the keyboard to be too small. If I buy another WinMo phone I will make sure the screen is at least iPhone sized, or I might in fact resort to an iPhone because I am sick of WinMo underperforming."

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i have always loved the x1, and will always do, i see no problem with the size nor the screen, the only flaw on the x1 design was the material in my opinion, a flushed recessed screen like the x2 should have been on the x1 but hey, the x1 is still a good damn phone

comparing the size of the screen for software development is useless dude, very very useless, especially if you are comparing it to another device with a diff OS...my reason is that there are many many many phones that runs symbian with diff size screen, lets say the SE p910, p990 and the P1i, and they were great devices, especially the p910, i remembered all those nice apps and games which were designed for the p900 and p910 UIQ

when i first saw my x1 i was like daaaayuummm, i loved it, i still even sleep with it next to me every night :p , dont hate it dude, the x1 is a top device minus the build quality, how can we prove it? look at the x2, same hardware, its just the drivers that must have made it more fluid, just imagine the x2 rom on the x1 with the x1 keyboard and camera drivers...what would you think the x1 would be like?

come on, you have to give jack his jacket when due, the x1 is not as bad as you making it sound, its just the support that sucks and the x2 proved that already
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] themobber:
I wont buy X2

I wont buy the X2, because it's just a remake of the X1, I own for almost a year now.

Even a bad remake, because it's almost the same hardware, lesser RAM for programs and micro-usb (that means just another set of cables)

Last but not least it has a bad design - looks like all others, no character, no more accents like the X-oriented-buttons of the X1, no surrounding LEDs and a cheap looking case. No more stile at all.

I had the luck not to have problems with the case or the keyboard and I can understand those who want to switch. But is it worth that money ?

You will support those productmanagers of SE who didn't want to risk something new, but rather stick to the old.

Greetings
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dr.Sid:
I gave up upon WM. I'm waiting until new mobile systems grow up, or until my X1 falls apart.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tych0n:
If it has better hardware, better battery life and is more stabile and maybe even has more and/or better functions than X1 and doesn't cost a fortune, sure.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Alex Atkin UK:
You wont have a long wait. My X1 has finally developed the fabled "crack under the volume button" and now feels like its about to fall apart.

That is one of the reasons I sound so bitter right now, as I could put up with all the other problems but once it physically starts failing its not something you can ignore.

As for screen, I wasn't comparing as such. I simply bought the X1 having never seen it (it wasn't in the shops yet) as it never occurred to me they would make the screen/phone so narrow. As for development, of course I can compare. It has a touch screen but its so narrow you can hardly fit anything on it, that is a huge flaw IMO.

It just winds me up that I have to get the stylus out for almost everything because its too small to touch things. Now yes I am aware Windows Mobile is the big problem there, but if the screen had been a more sane size you could fix the problem in software. However as the screen is so narrow, you still can't really fix it.

I do agree there is a little hope of using the X2 ROM on the X1 though, assuming my X1 does not fall apart in the meantime.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] paroxysm:
Nah, buying X2 will mean having to shell out more bucks for X3. I am more interested in the latter.

And finally understand why X1 panel dev has been ignored. They are waiting to load X2 with the panel goodies.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pimpmydragon:
This X1 has made me miss more calls and messages than any other phone I've ever had. I have to take this P.O.S. in for service now, and I'll try to swap it for a decent phone, like a C905 or C903.... I really appreciate everyone fixing up ROMS for this phone, at least I can use this toy to play videos on plane flights. Never again...
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DeeChan:
Must say if XDA didn't exist, then my X1 would be on ebay at this moment.

Nothing too exciting with the X2 for me.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doministry:
The keyboard itself makes me want it.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NighPlayer32:
at first i'll think I have to have this phone but i will wait for some tests
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spikegotti:
i hope they add a tv receiver on the next winmo xperia like the Eten glofiish V900, just imagine watching tv on a high res screen like the xperia :) now that would be something
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doministry:
Yes!

BTW I'm going to get SPB TV,

anybody tried that?
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] szlevi:
:rolleyes: Yeah, only for people outside of Asia (they have it for years) and even for them for about 3 days then nobody would give a flying **** about it (who the **** wants to watch TV on a 3" display? :rolleyes::rolleyes::confused: :()

Perfect way to waste development :mad:resources on an utterly pointless, idiotic feature, that's for sure.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spikegotti:
who the **** wants to watch TV on a 3" display? )

Perfect way to waste development resources on an utterly pointless, idiotic feature, that's for sure.

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szlevi, bcos u dont want it doesnt mean others dont, i hope u and orelsi dont ever bcome CEOs of a giant maker, with an attitude like that im sure u wont anyway, those chinese phones with tv is big in the market minus the stupid OS...

BTW doministry thinks its a good idea as well, and yes doministry, i use the SPB TV but i wish sometimes i can watch local tv bcos im not always near a screen
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doministry:
Ok thanks, this kind of attitude like

"**** you 'cos I know better" is popular.

But I just hope we all users will be served more or less according to our needs.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PredatorX11:
yes i want buy, but not now....:D
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maherladsak:
............when i put my x1 beside the x2 on the pc monitor.....dam*n, my x1 looked outdated. I will definitely get 2, i mean, get 1, the x2. :D
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenang83:
NO

I wont consider buy X2 because the cost must very high and i dont so like the keyboard design.thanks
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Trudi:
Yes for sure, it'll be a nice christmas present for myself, anyway I change every year my mobile, I like the X1 a lot, so I'll probably enjoy the X2 :p
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrMiyagi:
Conditional YES

I would buy *IF* there will be custom ROMS on xda-devs.

I love my X1 but only after a series of custom ROMS from the chefs here (itje & Smaberg). Touch-X 10.1 makes the X1 rock! If I'd had to stick with the original ROM it would've been back on eBay in about a week.

The new keyboard has all the things I would like to have seen on the X1 (cursor keys & the CTRL key) and the screen is a little bigger and FLUSH ...

So, cost permitting (I'll look out for cheap deals on eBay) and custom ROMS from the chefs here ... yep I'd buy :D
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rockinsnake:
No No No

X2 and X1 have th same Prossesor...so hardly see any diff...

as far as the acclerometr thing goes...it usually gets frustrating after a while (Was really frustating in my omnia)...:mad:

and 8.1 cam...

5 MP cam is more than enough for a phone

So X2 is not much of an candy

also didnt like the its keyboard as compared to X1..
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Viper139:
Buy X2

I will wait for the final specs and some tests. I really like my X1 but if the X2 is really an improvement I will get it.

BUT - I am not convinced that 6.5 is better than 6.1

BUT - I don't use any of those panals and the new tile thing is disturbing to me

BUT - I don't need a high-res camera

It it better be faster or have some other advantage :)

But I will wait for the first real test to decide.

And I don't care whether HTC builds it or not. As long as it works as promised.

Viper
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Parano!d:
just read over gsmarena,

X2: there's an accelerometer on board alright, but the screen doesn't auto rotate to match the orientation of the handset...
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] markosf:
No FM radio

No FM radio, so no buy.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doministry:
Not confirmed.

Nevermind's one has it.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] holdout:
on second thought the vids i'm seeing on youtube show it's rather fast but i'm still not convinced by prototypes.....

it does look very promising though.....

features i personally like:

- accelerometer

- smooth face surface so no more dust collecting on edges

- hard screen surface (not that cheap-looking film that moves when you touch the screen)

- slightly larger screen (3.2" while X1 is 3.0")

features that impress me but i don't care about:

- 2 speakers for stereo sound (top and bottom) .... but at least ringtones and sound might be louder this time around

- 8MP camera
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] defiler4:
a video about x2 you all may want to see

Sony Ericsson XPERIA X2 - Hands On

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CagMzo03Myo&NR=1&feature=fvwp

it seems the autorotate is activated on some panels

and it has radio as well

also it seems it has a better touch respone incompared with x1

the screen is not like x1 its hard

but it has also some lags in software still.

price in anouther youtube video i saw was about 500-600 euro

overally its much better than x1 but its not a breaktrough

if x2 get popular like x1 and if good cookers like itje and daran and many others start making rom for it , it may worth a try
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PredatorX11:
500-600 euro for this x2....

but this price is comprises of the cover crack?the same problem of the x1?:confused::mad:
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hyellow:
for less then 300 pounds (about 400 euro's) you get this:

http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct....Category=0A394417-7597-41E6-9675-4D11F909908F

seems like a better alternative
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] szlevi:
No keyboard and 1GHz brings you what, 3 hours battery life? Nah, it's a worse phone, I think.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] szlevi:
SE must quit this miserable market called WinMo and focus on Android if they want to survive on the smartphone market.

Windows Mobile is a pile of crap inherently and it won't change unless WM7 will break backward compatibility in order to fix the underlying structural and design errors in Windows Mobile.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hyellow:
What is your problem dude... relax, chill out, everybody knows what wm can or can't do. Don't get me wrong, but android is not great either. it has lot's of potential, but being just one year on the market with already multiple updates to the core, tell's me that the software still is not ready yet. i think android is a bit overhyped. sure wm isn't all that, but i can do right about everything i long for,for a smartphone. I'm not that fond of wm either, but for me, it's stable enough to last 'till wm7 arrives.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ethermind:
The Emperor has no clothes!

I think that...

The King Is Naked!

;)