yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Raychem:
Absolutly Agree!!!!

There need to be non of that. Many of US here have been in here since the begining. Now I understand that since then ATT and Verzion have both released the TP2 but it is no excuse! This goes back to posts starting at #4900 where we wre critizied for being "rude" or not "helpful" but people need to "READ"!!!!!! I was scared ****less before I flashed my 500 dollar plus device and read this board on the TP2 for at least 2 weeks. EVERYTHING people need is in the first 6 posts of this thread. If the end user want to be ignorant thats his/her responcibility. This forum in general is not rocket science and for "me" who was windows mobile illiterate 3 months ago; I can say that reading and research as well as the SEARCH FUNCTION have served me well. I can't speak for everyone here but I feel that many share this opinion...

Off my soap box!

ACE...Keep up the work! Much respect for what you do here day in and out!

Richard
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Raychem:
You do not need the rilphone.dll. It is in the oprating system for the phone. I know there are matching rilphones but till now there has not been one for the TP2 on radio 4.49.25.17. I have been using that radio for over a month with the stock rilphone and have not had and issues what so ever. I do not think it it is a concern.

Richard
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] drey_p:
@Raychem

I agree with you - I have learned a lot by simply reading this forum and using the search function, hopefully we have put an end to the installing of the CDMA version on a GSM device..... although... give it a few pages and it may be back! LOL ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Raychem:
Glad you got your phone fixed. People just have to be aware of what they are doing.

Maybe NRG should add GSM to the D/L file. NRG's threads are very active!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] drey_p:
LOL - I didn't have a problem with my phone - I fortunately have a GSM device! I was just trying to help out someone who had a problem with their CDMA device!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Raychem:
Hey, I have been here since the begining of the year in XDA but did not register till I had my TP2 in hand. I just feel that if users understand first what is going on, it will help quite a bit.

I am getting ready to build an overclocked watercooled computer with will run me a bit over 2k and trust me, I have been in many forums for the last 3 weeks and asking certain questions because the last thing I want is to spend that money and come out with having either a bas system or a water logged computer!!!

Richard
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Raychem:
Sorry for the mix up, my bad!!!lol:eek:

This thread grows exponentially, 6k posts and about 500k views!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Isn't it amazing how many people will just take their brand new phone worth a couple hundred dollars, do little to no research (ie, take the time to read up on the forums and understand the quirks/pitfalls FIRST), and just flash away?

All I can do is just shake my head...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Raychem:
Good thing is we have people like ACE that do help people with the same thing over and over again. I do have to admit that this thread is crazy at times...hell even I got lost up top!

I just don't like that fact that when people mess up they point a finger right away. Case in point, The talk back on tmonews about the outage yesturday was crazy! People saying that tmo sucks, that they are gonna leave.....so forth and so forth. I have been with serveral carriers and that all have strengh and weaknesses, but they all can have system failures too!

Richard
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] drey_p:
Definately a case of read, research and read some more... and once you know what you are getting yourself in for then go ahead and flash!

Coz if they keep causing you to shake your head your neck is going to end up really sore! LOL
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gehzumteufel:
If you read further up, I criticised him for blaming NRG and his rom for bricking his phone. I specifically told him that in the 4-5 years I have been flashing phones, I have never bricked a phone. If you bricked your phone, you are almost always doing something wrong. So, my response was warranted. Yes, it wasn't exactly the nicest thing, but when you brick your $500 phone because you didn't read, tough ****.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Star-Lite:
I just installed this ROM on my unbranded HTC TP2 WWE, and I have to say I am mighty impressed by it.

This is waay better then any Hermes ROM I ever had, the ROM itself, installed apps, matching icons, fitting theme and overall looks are awesome! :D

I love how it really feels like a rom as a whole, not just a WM version with some apps thrown on top.

Performance is a *LOT* better then HTC's official WM6.5 ROM as well! (which was the main reason for me to go look for a new one, it felt slower then my old Hermes)

I did manage to kill the Comm Manager somehow tho, the whole screen got garbled up with all kinds of funky lines etc. I think it was causes by me installing .NET CF 3.5. I just did a hardreset and tried again, running smoothly now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gehzumteufel:
I loved my Hermes, but damn I love that this phone can just handle anything I throw at it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Ramsfan_Jim:
Apologies / correct: I DO have the double digit calendar issue - but only when showing the Calendar tab. On any other tab it appears fine. Sorry for any confusion.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Raychem:
Yeah, the fact that he blamed NRG and your post got me a bit defensive in my response. Flashing a phone is at your peril, not anyone else.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ace10134:
Yep, that's the themed clock and slider in the Photon ROM. I really need to update the Photon Wingster ROM page....lol. I've been behind in helping the CDMA folks....they are clueless :D Oh, and feel completely free to use the URL of images on Wingster, btw! I don't mind at all, and no, I'm also not being sarcastic...LOL. It's Microsoft's servers that my website uses, so they've got the bandwith to spare :D

Yep, you can get the Verizon Keyboard Fix from the FAQ over on the CDMA ROM's thread. Here's the FAQ For CDMA. Heck, I'll post all the keyboard fixes, lol...

Keyboard Symbols Don't Work / Home Key opens Start Menu!! / Button Mappings!

T-Mobile - Install THIS CAB and Restart your phone (Fixes the ALT key and the Home key). (If you only want the keyboard symbols fixed, install THIS CAB).

AT&T - Download and install THIS CAB. (You might need to map other buttons, with THIS)

Verizon - Install THIS CAB and Restart the phone! (Thanks Fronc for the ROM dump info)

Sprint/Telus - Install THIS CAB, and Restart your phone! (Thanks to banzaiwolfe for the ROM dump info)

German - Install THIS CAB and restart your phone!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kk0813:
I don't find the rilphone cab file for AT&T tilt2 stock radio 4.48.25.20. Where can I find it? Is any one using it with the energyROM.

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] yorigasi:
Is it normal for my phone to be running at a constant 80%? My memory in use is at 143.18 out of 178MB. Is this normal after installing Photon? Thank you.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ace10134:
Eh, I'm up there right now. It's just kind of a WinMo issue with RAM... but luckily these phones can handle WinMo's RAM greedyness quite well.

Honestly, I think the 10/07 version was the best at handling the RAM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Gman65:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=550973

CleanRam 1.7: Helps you to clean up the wasted RAM memory without having to restart the device and eventually saves a lot of time. (freeware)

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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Raychem:
The 10/07 ROM was imho the best 23016 rom that came out. Very stable, and was not ram happy like the lastest builds. But as the software that NRG uses gets refined and debugged, the better the ROMs are.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] goodbyereality:
I don't think there is one, not yet anyway. Not to mention that apparently 4.48.25.20 is a Topaz (Touch Diamond 2) radio. Weird, huh? As far as I can tell, all Tilt2's ship with this radio. I downloaded the 4.48.25.20 from the Topaz radio thread just to see if it came with rilphone.dll. Unfortunately, it doesn't. I may just security unlock my Tilt2 and start experimenting with the other Rhodium radios, but first I'll hafta extract the radio that's on there now, just in case there are any differences with the Topaz version.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kk0813:
Thanks for the reply. At http://tilt2.blownfuze.org/#radios it's mentioned that latest HTC radio 4.49.25.17 needs regular HardSPL. I was thinking of flashing this. But before that wanted to make sure, HardSPL is enough to flash this on my ATT Tilt2 with out unlocking it for other radios.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hchavarria:
This doesn't always help though, seems that gwes.exe is having memory leaks because even after running CleanRam I stay at about 75-80% due to gwes.exe not releasing memory.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nuron:
Haha in my 10/28 23081, Touchflo/HTC Sense just completely went unusable and I don't know why. I didn't use the phone all day and when I held the Start button to activate Showcase, it started lagging majorly. So, I'm now on the stock Windows Mobile interface haha.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] brynwall:
Trying out the 23081 Build.

Will report tomorrow once I install my tweaks.

****Also, in the latest build is there a way to remove the clock in the upper right corner (I'm missing my task manager)? I went about it the old way, but didn't find an option to disable the clock on all screens. I also searched for it and couldn't find a fix.****

EDIT: I found that it is integrated into this ROM if I click the clock. Thank you NRGZ28

**** One more question - is there a .cab that can add some program shortcuts under the home page? I can't seem to find that either.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] simplydat:
Yup I can confirm that Action key on landscape does remain portrait, thus looking like its out of range.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Action key

I can also confirm that in the 21864 28 Oct ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mocky:
Is rilphone.dll version critical?

I've searched this thread and didn't find the firm answer for the question if the rilphone.dll should match the Radio version? I know it was critical before with Touch Pro because of power consumption issue. Is it still a problem with Touch Pro 2?

And if the answer is "Yes", can anybody tell what version of rilphone.dll is cooked into this ROM?

Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Star-Lite:
Same here on the nov 3 ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jezi:
From 11/3 to 10/7

Don't know why, but I feel better going back to Photon 10/7 release, everything works as they should...It must be the stability and no memory leaks, the white classic clock, landscape, MMS, Location, Weather/clock and, oh yes...... BT AVRCP works with MSVC and Manila music tab:D!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Manni01:
Welcome back:)

Haven't left 10/07 yet...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
23081 or 21864 version ?

Is there somewhere to download previous versions of the ROM ? I can only see the latest versions.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Manni01:
1007 was 21864 only, hence its stability. It is indeed the last Photon ROM where everything works (by the way this is isn't meant to undermine NRJ's fantastic work with the more recent builds, they are betas and he can only deliver what he gets). I use my phone for work, so I priviledge stability and useability over new features/eye candy, but it's great to have the choice:). Especially given how good 1007 already looks and works compared to the stock ROM.

It's available here http://thewingster.com/energyromwarhawkstandardarchives.aspx
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
LOL!!! That's it! You guys have convinced me to go back to that one too.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Thanks Manni, I didn't realise it was 21864 only, also I couldn't find those archives, obviously I didn't look hard enough, thanks ! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
So you did find it right? http://thewingster.com/energyromphotontitanium10072009.aspx
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Manni01:
You're welcome, it's ACE who should be thanked for all his good work too!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
I just had a look and it's not a 21864 but it's a 23016.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Manni01:
You're right, my mistake. I got confused with all these build numbers. What I meant was that it is the last 6.5 final build (AFAIK), not a more recent 6.5.1 beta (or a beta Manilla 2.1 build 1919 which was introduced in the 1011 Photon ROM and brought a few problems, even on 6.5).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Yes, thanks. I looked on that site, I can't believe I missed the "Archive" link, Doh ! :o

ok, I'm confused. So 23016 is still 6.5 ? But NRG's build of 1021 went "back" (?) to 21864 ? Or is 21864 somehow later than 23016 ? :confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
NRG has released 21864 and 23016.

The difference is that after Oct 07 (23016), the "Start" button is down the bottom. Now if you flash the 21864 ROM the "Start" button will be at the top.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] E90 Commie:
There is a problem with the EnergyROM Standard 20091007 - the TF3D Not Starting one. After some applications has been installed the TF3D ceases to start. Installing the TFDetacher solves that but then the clock freezes.

I haven´t found any solutions for those problems and they aren´t present in the newer builds. It seems the Manila 2.1.1918 used in that version has some stability problems.

A 23016 with the new HTC Sense Manila would be great.

When it comes to RAM usage: on the 28th build I have about 50-60% usage and that´s with the Xperia Panels loaded and the Manila running. 80% is clearly a problem.

Will try the new nov 3 build and see how it handles the RAM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Manni01:
The TF3D not starting after a reset is the only problem with this ROM. You just have to tap on the screen for it to load. It then works fine until the next reset (not often given the stability of the ROM). That is if you have taken your SD card out for the first boot after flashing, or the phone customisation may not be completed properly.

I don't have any problem with memory usage, so not sure why you have (I don't use the Xperia panels though, but if you do why no using the Titanium version without TF3D?).

By the way the newer builds are not an option if you need BT AVCRP as it's been broken since 1007. If you don't need it, then I'm sure they are worth considering.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] E90 Commie:
Memory usage has been working good for me (50-60%). But I think it´s another problem for the user who complained about 80% memory usage. I think an application can be causing that.

I like the 1007 ROM but for me I haven´t managed to tap to start the Manila sometimes. Flash etc has been OK and after everything has been setup (own applications and customizations) the Manila has began to fail. Tapping after reboot has been unable to start it.

Installing the TFDetacher solved that problem but then the clock began to freeze.

With the 20091028 edition I haven´t experienced those problems. If the clock had worked OK in the 10/07 - I would stay with it because it´s great otherwise. But I haven´t managed to solve the clock problem and that´s a deal breaker for me.

An EnergyROM 23016 with HTC Sense would be great (updated 10/07).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
03 Nov 21864

The calendar on the slider turns into two digits when you select it. Hmmm might go back to the 28th Oct 21864.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Manni01:
I guess I'm lucky then, tapping on the screen works everytime for me.

Doesn't do this on mine.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jezi:
I don't tap on mine, I just wait about 4-5 secs and it does by itself. Btw, it was through your post that I found w/c was the last release where BT AVRCP still works so I downloaded it from Wingster Archives. Thanks man! I just hope I don't get tired of the calendar tab icon permanent on 31:D

Thanks to NRG, Ace, (and cmd too, for testing the hell out of it too, lol), for keeping some of the known older but stable releases that we could go back to if we encounter some problems w/ the latest releases.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] henh:
Alarm wouldn't sound in stand by

battery seem to be very good after few recharges.

i like this new 23081 M2.1 with the clear flip clock & will keep this ROM on my phone for awhile if i find the fix for Alarm issue.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] brynwall:
I had way too many problems

I couldn't even get my phone to sync my contacts

I'm switching to the 21864 version to play with.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FiyaFleye:
Guys, 23016 is not a 6.5 build as far as I was told. It's a hybrid using updated components attached to a 6.5 build...hence the finger friendliness in menus from the 6.5.1 builds...that is why 21864 lost some of those great menu options because it's the true release build of 6.5. With that being said, I do think that 23016 was a much more enjoyable build...I didn't really like the step backwards...even if it meant a menu would load .01ms faster.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Learic:
Can you re-verify that your Nov.3 flash doesn't have the duplicate day number superimposed twice and shifted to the top right? When looking at the manila slider, it does not have the problem but as soon as you slide the slider over to the calendar and allow it to refresh, the double day number shows up in the calendar image in the slider. I thought it was a graphical glitch or a manila file value that the coordinates might be a little off with but if you're not having this issue, maybe it's something deeper...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] 186227:
MSVC with this ROM

I have asked a few times but have not got any responses. Does MSVC caller ID annouce work properly with these ROMs or does it still announce thru the speakerphone?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Crowdawg54:
The double number for the calendar on the slide bar is there.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Crowdawg54:
Is it me, or has anyone else noticed, or felt, the 11/3 version is sluggish and not very responsive. Also it doesn't seem to respond as well as 10/28 in regards to touch. Just wondering if I am the only one who is thinking about going back to the 10/28 ROM?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tkalli:
I am using the Oct. 28 Standard 21864 ROM's on both my Rhodium and Blackstone.

Both are stable and fast.

Since I am leaving on a month's overseas trip, I will stay with these until I return.

​
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Manni01:
We were discussing 1007, not 1103...;)

Edit: I was discussing 1007, and I thought Shadowboy23 was as well, but I checked his post and he was indeed discussing 1103, so my mistake for assuming he was still commenting on the 1007.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Learic:
No problem. I was just asking if you could re-verify it but I went ahead and re-flashed (23081 - Nov. 3) onto my device to see if I had a "hiccup" in my original flashing. The problem is still there and I also noticed it for the mail icon in the slider as well when you have the mail counter visible because you have mail. This number reacts the same way and it is a little off with the double superimposed value/image.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Crowdawg54:
Any chance you still have a copy of the Standard 21864 10/28 ROM? I made the noob mistake and deleted mine and now can't find a copy of it to flash back onto my phone. Thanks for the help!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ajayendra:
Please help, I need to get back to T-Mobile official ROM on the T-Mobile touch pro 2. Where can I find it?

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmckinzie:
Tweak Request

Chef,

Please consider adding this tweak to your ROM. Thanks!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=580048

I especially like the email one. That light gets on my nerve.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Raychem:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4879457&postcount=6026

Read this post
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ajayendra:
Anyone please!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Raychem:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=550975

There is a little button on the top of the Rhodium forum called search.

It is very useful

!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmckinzie:
Please stop double posting...it's only been 20 minutes.

Start at the Rhodium ROM Development page and check the stickies. Questions here are for EnergyROM Photon Series.

Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Raychem:
I answered that question because I felt both a need to contribute and be a smart ass at the same time!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ajayendra:
Sorry, I am kinda impatient.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jezi:
I love that light, that's the quickest and silent way to notify me if I got email, since email is low priority for me.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mitsuturbo:
I've been running 10/11 since it came out and have not had a single solitary problem. I won't be flashing a new ROM anytime soon, i don't think. I've really run this thing through it's courses too. No complaints whatsoever here. 10/7 was ok, but 10/11 seems better to me.

Why are some of you going to 10/7 instead of 10/11?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] worldfamous:
flip clock

I am on 23081 11/3. I disabled manila and used total commander and moved file to windows directory. then enabled manila again. did not work. However I tried it a second time this time disabling manila moving file to windows then soft reset and reenabling manila and it worked. My hour does not flip no more. So for those who wanted this try soft reset after copy file to windows then enable manila.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Ooops sorry worldfamous I should read first.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmckinzie:
Thanks for that opinion...it made me realize that my preference for the light is my own. I'll try to get a cab for it one day.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gehzumteufel:
Exactly. And while I know I do it at my own risk, I have, in all my years (HTC Wizard, Hermes, Herald, and now Rhodium) of flashing, never seen a bricked phone when doing all the stuff properly. With the exception of a faulty device.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jezi:
Bluetooth remote pause, play, FF, RR works in Manila music tab and the rest of the ROMs after that works only for WMP.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bigezvol:
Changelog from 10/28 to 11/3 of 21864?

NRG... Page 1 isn't showing the 11/3 changelog. What's been cooked between 10/28 and 11/3?

Keep up the great work!