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[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
Dont you have a stylus with your tilt to place the widgets on the screen more acurately? If you dont have a stylus then a pen lid will do just as good.

That guide doesnt do me much good since its not for spb mobile shell. Sadly until spb release a developers kit for mobile shell we wont be able to program any new widget types other than whats available now.

The way I made the bottom menubar it still takes up less space than the original menubar so I dont think its too big and I did it so you can put widgets right up to the bar whereas with the original you couldnt. I might make a version with the continuous scrolling screens but without the bar, but not yet.
[Windows Mobile Themes] spyrale:
works like a charm on my omnia, thank you very much MSkip :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] MarkAtHome:
Yes, I have a stylus, but if I can get away with not using it, I do, since I seem to have better results with my index finger (maybe because it covers more of the widget's icon and it's hitting the right spot on it). I still haven't figured out the sweet spot on the widgets' icons, which would make the sylus more useful to me.

I was thinking that if he showed how Wi-Fi and Bluetooth were being triggered, a clickable shortcut could be made from it, and then added as a widget, no?

It's not a big deal in the scheme of things. :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] moxycalt:
Was just wongering if it was possible to get a clock widget pack in a .cab format or easy to install......cause I don't know much if nothing ! I really like them !!!

thanks in advance
[Windows Mobile Themes] .dredd.:
Install no success

Hi mskip!

I tried to install your brilliant looking interface but failed 2 times... there were 2 different roms on my Touch 3G (Jade). The roms are: pdaviet V18 (23041) and Megade v1.2.1. (23009).

In both cases I followed install instructions and put a clean MS3 on the phone, then installed your cab and reboot.. and freezes in both cases. Only hard reset solved the problem as there was no way to uninstall either MS3 or Elegance.

I know many reported successful installation but as I remember many reported the opposite.

Do you have any idea? My girlfriend uses MS3 and I would like to present her this nice interface.

Thx
[Windows Mobile Themes] Mattster_spv:
Hi Dredd,

You may have tried this already, but this is how I got Mskip's Elegance to work on my Trinity. It involves doing a clean storage (hard reset) so backup your device first:

1. Exit MS3.

2. In program files on your Storage Card, delete all folders that are associated with MS3. If you have the cabs / exe files backed up and are happy to reinstall them later on, you may as well delete all of them.

3. Do a clean storage (hard reset).

4. Install MS3 onto your clean phone.

5. Install Mskip's Elegance. When installation is complete, click once to exit the screen. This should take you back to the folder where you saved the Elegance Cab.

6. Soft Reset.

Following these steps, I got it working. May have been luck, but something above allowed it to load up instead of freezing.

Hope this helps,

Mattster.
[Windows Mobile Themes] catman51:
Working perfectly here. Thanks
[Windows Mobile Themes] .dredd.:
Hi Mattster!

Many thanks for the hints... doing like this... honestly I do not understand completely what means to delete all MS3 related files from SD card program files because MS3 installs normally on the phone so there are no files related to MS3 installed program on the SD. Anyway I am trying to do like you described but before hard reset I remove SD card and after hard reset I will put MS3 and Mskip cabs to phone and install from there in the way you told.

Will be back with the results :)

UPDATE: It looks working well :)) .. except that I can not change the background on lifestyle :(((

Thanks again
[Windows Mobile Themes] andyvbrown:
Not quite working on a Treo Pro

Mskip,

Followed your instructions, uninstalled SPB 3, and uninstalled your qvga ultimate pack, soft reset then installed SPB3 and then elegance qvga, soft reset.

Professional Layout has a weird background with no widgets on screen, carousel works ok.

Lifestyle screen only has one screen and no menu at bottom of screen so no method to add widgets and edit layout.

I suspect something to do with the 320x320 res of the treo pro, but not sure.

I don't have the ability to do screenshots yet.

SPB registry also looks very different with elgance installed, but can't be sure

Love the ultimate pack for qvga which seems to work about 95% on the treo pro, so will return to that for now and if possible test elegance later.

let me know if you need any further info.

Cheers

Andrew
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
If the background isnt changing in lifestyle mode then try soft resetting and change the background straight away before anything else. If it doesnt work with 1 image then try a different one until it changes and then you should be able to select the background you want.

I dont know what affected it in that way as it does the same thing on my phone but I figured since you can get it working with a bit of trial and effort it wasnt a major thing.

Mark.
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
Thanks for the info I was wondering if SQ320 would work or not but I wasnt really sure. I will try to get round to doing the graphics for 320x320 but im glad ur enjoying the Ultimate cab for now :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] catman51:
It is extremely hard to change the background on lifestyle! I have got it to change only once, and want to go to a different background, 5 soft resets and tries and still hasn't changed? I'll keep trying.
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
I hacked the lifestlye screen ALOTT to get to continuous scrolling and selectable screens so I can only assume its something I have done in that process. I will have a look at the code in a bit and try to figure out where the problem is. Did you try the sugestion I made a few posts back?
[Windows Mobile Themes] catman51:
Yes, thanks for looking into it.

Funny that it changed once, now I've tried it over and over without luck.
[Windows Mobile Themes] degavi:
A trick to change the lifestyle picture is to first select the picture you want and then go in to the spb folder and delete the background.dat file and restart mobile shell
[Windows Mobile Themes] catman51:
Thanks degavi,

That did work.
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
Thanks for pointing that out I didnt actually realise that the background.dat file contained the current lifestyle image lol. I included it in the latest cab so the themes image is automatically selected on install. Also wierdly enough by putting the background.dat file in the cab you are told that you need to restart after the install finishes. All you have to do is click ok at the end to restart the phone and complete the installation which makes it alot more foolproof :D

I also put a bit about changing background images in the first post and gave you credit for your method ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] catman51:
One more thing. The images don't slide like they do in the original, so what is a good size for an image to be?

I've been using the 960x588, but they only show the left side with this config.

I tried a 320x240 and that was worse.
[Windows Mobile Themes] ElAguila:
Skip, do you need any vga testers for this?
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
The images dont slide because to get the selectable screens I had to make 7 seperate screens that are all 1 page wide, instead of 1 screen thats 7 pages wide. The image still needs to be 960x588 (or 960x748 for widescreen versions) but if you play around with the position of the image then you can get it to fit right on the screen. I will try to find out the exact position to make it fit.
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
I will soon, I will let you know as soon as im done making all the images for VGA and built the cab. Thanks :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] dustinb17:
mskip,

I know it's set up for 7 individual screens but is there any way to eliminate a couple of them. Possible change the registry or something. Maybe change Page Count on "HomeScreen" 2 and 5 to zero or something?
[Windows Mobile Themes] Mattster_spv:
MSConfig can do this for you (link in my signature). Otherwise, there is a reg tweak listed at the beginning of the other main MS3 thread by Zepii.

Hope this helps,

Mattster.
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
Its really designed for 7 screens and each screen is totally seperate so its not as easy as just putting in a registry tweak. How many screens did you want I could try editing the qa_layouts file and send it to you with 5 but the buttons at the bottom would still be the same size so there would be a big gap between.

msconfig wont do a thing with this cab as there are 7 seperate screens.. they arent configured the same way as the original lifestyle screen.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Mattster_spv:
Ouch! Serves me right for assuming it would work. Sorry about the incorrect response!

Mattster.
[Windows Mobile Themes] andyvbrown:
Elegance for SQ320

MSkip,

Let me know if you need someone to test Elegance on a Treo Pro (SQ320 Res).

Happy to test and provide feedback when you get around to development.

Phone - Treo Pro (GSM)

Rom - WM6.1 as installed on phone when released.

Regards

Andrew
[Windows Mobile Themes] dustinb17:
If there's any demand for a setup for less screens than I'm all for whatever the overall consensus is but 4 or 5 would work for me. 5 would probably look best with gaps at 2 and 6 or 3 and 5.

But if there's no demand for it I don't expect a special setup for me alone. Thanks for all your work and time in creating these builds. They look great
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
Released: VGA/WVGA version of ProPlus Elegance (see the first post for download link) :)

Please give your feedback. If anyone can help me with the registry entries for landcape in WQVGA, VGA and WVGA I would be grateful.

Mark.
[Windows Mobile Themes] hootie:
I noticed the QVGA cab was changed (date changed to 090909). What was tweaked in this version?
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
Released: ProPlus Elegance 090909 for QVGA/WQVGA (see first post for download link)

Added: Automatic soft reset after installation

Added: Elegance Lifestyle image automatically loaded at installation

Fixed: Elegance Background Image now covers all the screen on WQVGA devices instead of being cropped at the bottom

Added: Few more widgets such as small battery, grey backing panels, small weather info and small weather info without underline

Removed: Task Manager, Backlight screen and Wireless Manager removed from carousel to make it more stable

If you already have ProPlus Elegance installed then you should be able to get away with uninstalling the old version and installing the newer version. If you want to be safe then install on a fresh install of Mobile Shell 3.0.1

Download and enjoy :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
Haha I think I just answered your question in my previous post before I even read your question :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] abumhmmd1:
THANKs mskip

another LNKs 4

MSkip Pro Plus Elegance Theme for MSH3.0.1

VGA-WVGA

QVGA-WQVGA

ENJOy
[Windows Mobile Themes] Anakha56:
First problem with VGA, cannot change the background? I am wanting an all black background but it does not seem to take :(.

On a side note how do I make the Pro screen all black as well without the red ribbon background?

So far so good, will get to customizing as my shift goes on but so far I am liking it much more than I did Sence. :)

*edit*

One other problem in Pro Plus Widgets your Analogue Clock (Large) does not seem to work as well as Digital Clock Pro. For all I know this could be my phone only.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Anakha56:
That sorted out my VGA picture problems thanks :).
[Windows Mobile Themes] ElAguila:
I just got this installed. I will customize it tomorrow and let you know if there any bugs. I must just when I thought you couldn't improve upon the work you had done, then, WOW! Excellent job!!
[Windows Mobile Themes] ElAguila:
Quick question for you Skip. Are the the panels that you ahve different than the normal MS3 panels. The reason I asked is that I saw an option missing. I realized that the screen you had built was on like the 3rd panel. No problem I thought I would just move the widgets using the move left page option. But that isn't there. The only option is to remove it.
[Windows Mobile Themes] degavi:
sorry posted in wrong forum
[Windows Mobile Themes] degavi:
glade it worked for u
[Windows Mobile Themes] galthop:
Ignore me - I posted before searching.
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
Making up the Lifestyle screen there are 7 seperate lifestyle screens all 1 page wide. That way each screen can be selected using the buttons at the bottom and also screen 7 can roll over onto screen 1. The reason you cant move the widgets left or right is because the screens are only 1 page wide and therefore there is no right or left page. Hope that explains things.
[Windows Mobile Themes] ElAguila:
Thanks for the infoand for the time and effort you have put into this for us.
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
No troubles I just hope that the people that use ProPlus Elegance enjoy it. I dont even own a VGA device but I produce VGA versions of everything I do because I want everyone that uses Mobile Shell to be able to use it to its full potential. I definitely think being able to select any lifestyle page directly is a major breakthrough because now people can populate every screen exactly how they want and not have to swipe through all the other pages to get to the one they want.

All I ask for is a thanks and hope that people enjoy using my work :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] uniqueboy:
Hi mskip, is it ok to restore my settings after I install the VGA version on my diamond?

And THANKS for all your hard work.:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
Which settings are you refering to? You cant restore the layout of the lifestyle widgets as the screens are all seperate and only 1 page wide so I very much boubt it would do anything but you could give it a go and see what happens if you want lol.
[Windows Mobile Themes] lbjohnny:
Mskip

Looks really cool. Before I try it I want to know if the SPB built in backup/restore facility will work with your version?

Thanks in advance.
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
No it wont, as I said before the lifestyle screen is made up of 7 seperate screens all working together, rather than the original 1 screen thats split into 7 (or however many you want) sections. The backup and Restore function would back up other parts or spb but im 99% sure it wont back up the screens.
[Windows Mobile Themes] carl99:
Is it then possible to have different backgrounds on each lifestyle screen in the Elegance theme? I know that was not the case before ...
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
The simple answer is no. They still share the same screen type and therefore share the same background. Its not as easy as it may seem, because of the way spb coded everything it makes it almost impossible to change the core of Mobile Shell. I will have to look into it more when I have more time.
[Windows Mobile Themes] johaness alf:
mskip, thanks a lot for your work.

Your theme is absolutely amazing (a lot of widgets, more screens for scrolling...)

It is perfect!
[Windows Mobile Themes] Ue40:
Hi,

I try to install on SE Xperia X1 (WM 6.5.1), screen resolution 800 x 480). The CAB installation (both version same) breaks immediately with an error.. no success at all ... any idea?

With your recent Ultimate-version I have the serious issue, that the SPB buttons in the left and right under corners are missing, so its not possible to configure.

so long...
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
The only time people ever had that problem with the menu button missing was when the wrong version was installed. Im not saying thats what you have done but in my experience if you follow the steps correctly then it should work fine.

Make sure you have uninstalled any extras and mobile shell first, then reinstall mobile shell so you have a clean copy to install on to. Install the VGA version and if it doesnt work then let me know exactly where it fails and what message you get.
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
Thank you :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] Ue40:
SE Xperia

OK ... your are right :o, I installed the QVGA version of your ULTIMATE collection. Runs perfect with the VGA version (must say that I have tested it on my old Hermes before, which is QVGA ....) ... However, the ELEGANCE collection still

breaks

during the

CAB installation

(unsuccessful installation). :(

But many thanks to your great work anyhow :), currently i did not recognize to much additions in Elegance compared to Ultimate which I'm interesting in (but maybe missing somewhat, next would be testing Elegance on the old Hermes device ...)

so long ...
[Windows Mobile Themes] Ue40:
But you surly have tip which file we need to save manually, that we can restore our fine tuned 7 screen layout after we flash our mobiles next time?

so long ...
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
Unsuccessful installation usually refers to a lack of memory so maybe you could check that. I know Elegance works fine on a Hermes as I have an old one of those in my drawer and tested it with WM6.1 and WM6.5
[Windows Mobile Themes] cepalermo:
Restore?

I so agree..!!!!

:)

Hey MSkip, Thanks for an awesome job on this! You've really made MS3 better. I just hope there is some way to restore my pages after a flash or hard reset. Especially considering I have spent 3-4 hours on this setup, and I'm not even done yet!!! :eek: I've loved every minute of it though , i just hope its restore capable.

Thanks again!
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
If you go into the registry then export the (HKLM, Software, Spb Software House 2, Spb Mobile Shell, Widgets) Folder. It will back up all 7 screens. Im not sure if any original widgets that you delete will still be there after importing the registry file but you can try it and see what happens. Backing up this folder will also back up your spb favorites contacts.

TIP: If you want to go this way and export the widgets folder for restoration purposes, then BEFORE importing it back into your device go through all the screens and remove all the existing widgets so that none of the old widgets. This way there is no chance of anything being left that could interefere with your layout restoration.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Ue40:
... did not test on Hermes yet, the problem is on my SE Xperia X1 ... memory is not the problem ...
[Windows Mobile Themes] Ue40:
sounds good, would test it, unfortunately my PHM Regestry Editor did not allow exports of keys in current version 0.7 ... tip for another tool were welcome :D

UPDATE: OK ... found "TRE" ... will test it .....

thanks again for your work and time ....
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
OMG 4 hours on setting up your layouts screen!! You dont HAVE to use every widget just because its there ya know mate :p

It is fun to try out different variations though lol thats why I made the small battery and weather info only (QVGA only) so that I could make a Hero variation :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] abumhmmd1:
hi mskip

Your theme is absolutely amazing (a lot of widgets...)

Its nice . Like it very much :)

this is my 1st glance coments of Pro Plus Widgets VGA

- Digital Clock Plus (Large)

the PM is a little off to the right

- Digital Clock Plus (Small)

the date is a little to the left

see att. shots

and need some some adjusments
[Windows Mobile Themes] cepalermo:
LOL, I know I know but I'm trying to make it look nice as well as check everything out. So its taken me quite a while :o

I mean cmon, 7 PAGES worth of widgets takes a while to reset, not to mention trying to remember my oh so perfect way of setting them up. :D

I happen to flash and hard reset quite often so I have to be able to restore but based on your comment I guess its not possible. What about backing up all the ms3 files? registry files? Oh well, I guess I have to go back to TF3D. Thanks anyway!! Great Work!!

Oops, i missed the post about the registry backup. Thanks for your response. Great job!
[Windows Mobile Themes] Ue40:
Backup YOUR Configuration

OK backup and restore of the 7 screens (at least) works with the saving of the reg-key mentioned by the Chief ...

step by step (how it works now for me, could be an easier way):

1. export the key with "TRE" (or another Registration Editor)

2. make changes that you want rollback

3. delete the reg key (did it in the WM today screen)

4. import the saved key

5. soft rest

could be interesting to save and export the whole spb registration when flashing the device ... will test it also, but not now ...

(one remark, I'm still using the ULTIMATE collection, since i could not install ELEGANCE on my SE X1 ... only if there is is different in the backup ...)

so long
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
Ok thanks for the feedback mate :)

I have fixed those 2 clocks (repostitioned the AM/PM and centered both dates so they are always in the middle of the clock), unzip the attached file and copy the 2 dat files to your spb mobile shell folder, then soft reset. This is for VGA version ONLY.

I have also updated the cab in the first post with the 2 fixed files included for any future downloads of ProPlus Elegance VGA. If you find anything else please let me know :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Anakha56:
Mskip do know why those 2 clocks are not working? When I select them nothing shows up on the screen :(.
[Windows Mobile Themes] MarkAtHome:
Hi Mark -- I'm certainly having a ball with it, although I'm not as dexterous as I once was... :-)

Is there a way for ProPlus Elegance to know the phone's screen width, and with that information, give a visual cue, along the button's horizontal path, which numbered screen you are at or have chosen to go to?

For example, looking at my Tilt/Kaiser, I see the button approximately centered (Lifestyle Home). Would it be helpful to know that if I use my stylus and touch the screen 1/4" left of the button, that it would take me to screen 3/7, 2/7, etc.?

If reading this seems as confusing to you as it did to me composing it, I'll try expand upon it somehow. Otherwise... nevermind... :o
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
New version uploaded (091109) on first page to fix these clocks as well as the fixing the missing widgets on the pro page from version 091009.

If you want to save your screens layout then follow NOTE2 instructions at the bottom of the first post.
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
I 'think' I know what you mean lol. You want some kind of indication of where to click to get the various screens? I can put a little circle or something in the centre of each buttons placement which would be an indicator, i dont think page numbers would be readable in such a small space but I will play around with it and let you know which one works best. VGA devices might JUST be able to get away with page number.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dadi68:
Hey mskip!

Thank you very much for this wonderful package.

Im still using the previous version, because it took me 4 hours to setup the MS from the scratch (installation, setup, registry hacks & lifestyle screen customization)...

One request plz

Can you include an Xperia Clock in a future version?

Thanx again!

Dimitris
[Windows Mobile Themes] MarkAtHome:
I think that I'm getting thrown off by your use of buttons, rather than button (singular). I see only one rectangular silver button, but I think you get what I mean. I suppose we'll find out! :D As always, thanks, Mark.
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
Do you mean *THIS* kind of clock? If thats the one ur after I will try to make one tonight.
[Windows Mobile Themes] dustinb17:
mskip I can't get your Back Panel small metal to work in your QVGA release from 09-09-09. It just gives me an invisible panel.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Ue40:
cab installation breaks

can also not install ELEGANCE on HERMES .... could german WM version be the problem? This is the only common interest I can see ... :confused:

so long ....
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
I will Fix it shortly its probably just a graphics saving error but im currently upgrading my system and putting windows 7 64bit on it so im only on here on my ipod lol. I verified the problem on my phone though and it will be fixed shortly :)