yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Greenarcher707:
cool, thanks for the heads up. this is way cool.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] xnifex:
Here are my data tests from when i first got the Tmo TP2 when it launched.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Greenarcher707:
that's not bad at all.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] xnifex:
i haven't tested since then, but i may
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] xspeed9190:
Good news guys tmo just sent out an internal letter to all employees that they will be throttleing up there 3g speed to 3.6 by late oct early nov. and 7.2 by mid december. and it also stated that there hsdpa 21 is in the near future at the begining of the year. that is pretty much verbatim of the email.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Greenarcher707:
that's great news! now we're really making progress.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] PeterHook:
1.07Mbps/1065Kbps/130kBps tmobile 3g download test on testmyiphone site. BB curve managed to get 4-6kBps on edge before I switched to tp2 :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gerelee:
When I first got the TP2, I was getting speeds consistently over 1 M on the stock rom using mspeed, kind of shocked me as the google phones were never close to those speeds. I'm using the genesis rom now and still get pretty much the same speeds. I wonder why this phone is so much faster than the android phones!
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] golfernutnflorida:
:eek:REEEEALLLLLLLLLY bored with it...
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] acidhax:
Nobody wants to see this ****. Post this somewhere else.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] golfernutnflorida:
mind your business noob....
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] mccune:
This should not be posted in the upgrading section. Please don't clutter this forum with threads like this. They really don't contribute in any way!

I believe that a lot of people agree with you that it's a boring device when it comes to ROM's etc. On the other hand you can still tweak it a lot!

I use a TouchPro2 now but I just can't get rid of my Pro 'cause it's such a good device for me ;)

Hope there will be some new life into this thread when the Pro get's released by other providers.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] acidhax:
Still bored there princess?
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] AREMA:
I understand that this "Qualcomm" stuff not good/speedy as Cheetah (previous Treo 750) :)

Maybe?
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] golfernutnflorida:
As a matter of fact yes, we have an unlocker and 3 roms to choose from, but all 3 are not working the way they should. We need more cooks and more testers before things get released that simply do no work.:eek:
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] petrafan007:
why don't you just ditch the phone and get an htc hero when it comes out. that's what i am going to do, eventually (probably dec 15, my birthday, when i get $$$). the phone was once good but now obsolete. there are so much better phones than it coming out if not already out.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] sigma1990:
Bored with your Treo Pro?

Give it to me, i have a Tilt2 (Touch Pro 2) and I'm just as bored it not more. (Wow i been around since 2006 and this is my first post begging for a phone) Sad.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] mumboender:
trade?

I will trade you for a used HTC fuze if you want...I am bored with it as well and am looking for something with a front facing keyboard...but its gotta be a gsm treo pro
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] Sagitario:
Damn,... I wish I could trade it with you,.. sadly mine is GSM subsidized.. so I can't get rid of it. Love my Treo Pro,.. but I'm as bored as anyone.. I carry it and my Touch Pro2 and I still can't get enough of the eye candy on Sense..

Wish someone brought Sense to a 320x320 device..
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] cenkaetaya:
the treo pro is a much better phone over the Fuze or TP

I traded my TP for Treo Pro and... I never once after like 6 months thought about the TP. I did not miss a single thing about it.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] Novel1:
Not so boring anymore--Try Androkkid and add programs

The windows today screen is boring but the Treo Pro can be updated with a launcher. Adrokkid gives you the android feel,is fully customizable and works ok on the 320x320 screen. Cab express 4.0 is a great program to update your Treo Pro. Lets you see utilities and more, see ratings and instant download. Battery usage can be limited by doing manual updates on email, weather and gps. Otherwise Treo is constantly checking same.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] gbertoli:
@Sagitario

I'm using Pointui with Pointsense theme. Search for 320x320 on Community section of website. www.pointiu.com

George
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] mord4z:
You can use a cooked rom on this device too
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Feaross:
Is there a CDMA hardspl? Can Verizon phones be flashed?

These phones are now just being released to Carriers

Verizon has the phone for $199

Sprint / ATT are expected to charge $299

Because I am a noob and had a tilt previously CDMA vs GSM wasn't an issue, my 2 year contract expires in a few days.

Will ROMS be cross compatible or GSM only or CDMA only?

Anyone have experience with differences in internet speeds?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mcspikesky:
Im a UK GSM user. Heres what i can tell you off hand.

Check the Rhodium CDMA forum to see if there is a HardSPL (I dont think so, yet)

$100 dollars is a lot of monies

Not cross compatible, dont do it. Dont think about it, im sure bad things happen.

No idea about internet speeds.

Me personally? GSM Model, $100 is a lot but there are far more GSM users on XDA devs therefore far more things to play about with. This phone is a toy for me, i dont need it but it occupies me. You chose!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Feaross:
:( Actually $349.99 for Sprint and T-Mobile

AT&T not listed as of yet, I will try to barter it for $199 when it comes out
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jtoyz2:
Verizon actually looks very nice, but knowing them they usually block alot of stuff on their device or charge extra for things that should be free...

ATT is the way to go for me atleast...you get a wider support if its a gsm phone vs. cdma
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bimori:
The reason why verizon's TP2 is cheaper is because they require you to have a data plan for as long as you own the phone. the data plan is $29.99 a month. Thats $360 extra a year. I dont think spring requires a data plan which is why theirs is more expensive.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] GeoffM:
Verizon & Sprint = CDMA & GSM (first world phone for them cept BB an Nextel) Uses MSA 7601 Chip (Sprint's add on Data is 15 bucks WIN WIN with Sprint)

AT&T = GSM only and poor expensive data Network - Use's MSA7200 Chip < FAIL!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] elazullizard:
Sorry, but Sprint also charges you for a data plan for as long as you have the phone. However, I'm not sure whether they lock you into it for the duration of the contract or not, but who gets a smartphone without data these days?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] toiletduk:
The AT&T network is consistently the fastest. It only lags slightly behind Verizon in coverage, too.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sdlopez83:
I know I should research this but do you know the differences between both chips. I am sure people on this thread are interested as well. Any clock speed differences or is it just the carrier hermaphrodite ability?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bxsteez:
I'm gonna have to seriously disagree with this. This only applies in big cities. Verizon has better overall coverage and better broadband coverage. At&t also has HORRID customer service. Before At&t took over I would've agreed with this but At&t screwed everything up.

On the note of the one i would buy I would buy the Verizon or Sprint one based on the messed up keyboard design that at&t continues to go with.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Justin241982:
I dont know about horrid customer service, It can be bad at times, but I had a tilt and warranty exchanged it twice and got a fuse. I think playing dumb with att will get you where you want to go and more info than you were looking for, Data coverage always varies upon where you live, I have lived in the sticks of upper michigan for a while now, NO 3G:( but never a dropped call and I mean never:) When I was in a bigger city with my fuse my data speeds were impressive but every time I went ut of range of a tower and conected to another it dropped my call, which is utter bull. So If your looking to buy a phone check out the internal specs on the device, see what can be unlocked and flashed to your liking and look at the device to see if it is aesthetically pleasing to your eye not someone elses, if you like the way it looks and what its got in it buy it. But just from my point of view dont buy CDMA having a sim card rocks you can put it into any phone and bam! new phone! Well any compatible phone but there are a lot of them. CDMA phones are a carriers way of shoving a cactus up you a** and telling you to like it.:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] 42nate1:
7600 vs 7601

Former Qualcommer here, and was involved in this, at least from the finance perspective.

The chips are identical in function. The only difference between the two of them were that the 7601 chips had a power save function disabled to be in compliance with a broadcom ruling on the 686 patent infringement case. This has long since been settled and the two companies are at peace with each other. It was only an issue for chips being imported into the USA from Singapore.

regards
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sdlopez83:
Thank you for the clarification.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] stanglifemike:
I havent seen anyone respond about the Verizon version TP2 being crippled so I will. It IS NOT for the first time, everything is the same as the others except the Verizon version is much sexier :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bxsteez:
THANK YOU!!! I'm considering the leap to Verizon. I would definitely like to know what you think of the device. What the removal of the ctrl key to add another message key. I really thought that was dumb...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cproaudio:
Dont forget that if you have AT&T's family plan, you can ditch the data plan for the TP2 and add medianet for the dumb phone for $15 then swap SIM chip. Now you have TP2 with unlimited data plan for only $15.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] stanglifemike:
Absolutely wonderful!! The screen on this thing is simply beautiful, and the speed and smoothness of TF3D is quite an improvement of the TP. Overall, the BEST ppc that I have laid eyes on and I enjoy using it everytime I pick it up....enjoy looking at it too. I highly reccomend it!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jpmartin:
how do we even know if weve got the CDMA or GSM version .. ??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bxsteez:
Hmmm I was expecting a comparison to the WWE edition. The comparisons to the TP is what i already know but thanks. I had the TP and the Xperia and no doubt that the TP2 is by far better than those two. It is the greatest winmo device i've ever used and it had the best stock rom i've ever used as well. Thats why i'm thinking about making the switch to cdma. I like to be able to change phones as much as I want thats why i stuck with At&t.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] stanglifemike:
well I'm sure you know about the GSM capabilities and the Verizon sim card already installed in the phone
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bxsteez:
Yea from what I understand it does not work with a US sim card. Is that correct?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] stanglifemike:
I honestly havent even messed with it yet. I'm sure it won't be long before we can get a hack to get it to work like a normal sim card phone though
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] iceman4357:
I have heard the VZ version will work on ATT but it will not get 3G. If it did, I would have purchased one.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Feaross:
I ended up ordering it for Verizon, I got the phone for $149 and I really could not pass on the deal. The company I work for will cover my monthly bill up to $100 / month.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] GeoffM:
I hve to semi disagree in our RCAP Report (Indepentant test of broadband data for our Transit Fleet) Sprint consitantly had better throughput (i.e. Higher bandwidth) BUT Verizon had better coverage, this could be due to lower subscriber rate however when searching for simular reports across the country Sprint did indeed post better bandwidth in the POP200 and above locations. In POP100 areas it's kinda of a wash because of the density which is why I'll choose the lower data cost service. (I should mention that the so call 3G networks of AT&T - T-Mobile didn't even come close to the Bandwidth of CDMA)

@sdlopez83 I don't know both are rated @528MHz, I believe the 7601 chip is sightly faster to handle trade-offs between CDMA and GSM

Qualcomm MSM7600 RISC Chipset

Simplified Technical Specifications

Type: MSM7600

Manufacturer: Qualcomm

Year Released: 2007

Predecessor: 32bit Qualcomm MSM7500

Characteristics

CPU Structure (complexity): RISC

Width of Machine Word: 32 bit

Primary (RAM) Data bus: 32 bit

Instruction Set

Supported Instruction Set(s): ARMv6

CPU Core: ARM1136EJ-S

Technology

Semiconductor Technology: CMOS

Additional Details

Special Features: 133 MHz ARM9 companion processor, ARM TrustZone technology, Embedded QDSP4000 or QDSP5000 DSP (CDMA2000 1X Rel. 0 / Rev. A, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rel. 0 / Rev. A, GSM, GPRS Class 10, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA, MBMS baseband), Embedded gpsOne GPS module, Qcamera, Qtv, Qcamcorder, Qvideophone

Related Page: http://www.cdmatech.com/products/msm7600_chipset_solution.jsp

Datasheet Time: Apr 20, 07 20:16:40

Qualcomm MSM7200A RISC Chipset

Simplified Technical Specifications

Type: MSM7200A

Manufacturer: Qualcomm

Year Released: 2007

Characteristics

CPU Structure (complexity): RISC

Width of Machine Word: 32 bit

Primary (RAM) Data bus: 32 bit

Instruction Set

Supported Instruction Set(s): ARMv6

CPU Core: ARM1136EJ-S

Clock Frequencies

Recommanded Maximum Clock Frequency: 528 MHz

Technology

Semiconductor Technology: CMOS

Minimum Feature Size: 90 nm

Additional Details

Special Features: ARM9 coprocessor, Embedded QDSP4000 and QDSP5000 DSP (GSM, GPRS/EGPRS Multislot Class 12, EDGE, UMTS/WCDMA, HSDPA, HSUPA, MBMS baseband), Embedded gpsOne GPS module, Qcamera, Qtv, Qcamcorder, Qvideophone

Related Page: http://www.cdmatech.com/products/msm7200_chipset_solution.jsp

Datasheet Time: Feb 16, 08 19:36:50
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] GeoffM:
A big MAYBE this depends on unlocking sim to work on US GSM Freq's. The TP2 is designed as a World phone, international travlers from NAM going overseas could get SIMs for EUR-ASI GSM Freq's.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Mike Mercury:
Just noticed my T-Mo TP2 came with JetCet installed. I assume it's to allow printing via various methods.

Has anyone ever used the program? I do have a WiFi enabled printer... but doing Google searches - seems JetCet is Bluetooth only ??????
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] th1rt3en:
i used it earlier, worked fine, but would only print certain things. I wanted to print from Internet explorer.

Im using it on WIFI
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Touch_Pete:
Jetcet

I actually tried using it today, I sucessfully printed to a networked printer at work. The drivers are not there for a huge number of printers but the generic does work although not as well as I had hoped. Had trouble printing multiple pages, so for small jobs it is fine but for larger documents you are btter off moving them to a full size computer and printing them from there.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rsacipher:
Isn't Jetcet for PowerPoint presentations? I have it but thats all I can do. On my Touch HD I had Jetcet 5 which was a print program and it worked on my wireless HP printer.

I think I have a different version of the TMO TP2 mine didn't come with my faves and seems to be missing a couple of programs.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] esseff:
I tested it with my Samsung newtwork printer and it worked using Epson drivers, as there are no Samsung ones. Just did a test page so don't know how well it works in all situations.

Was pretty impressed it worked at all.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Crazya:
I have JetCet Presentation on my Tmo TP2. It says that printing requires another program available on their website. Is it installed already or do I have to buy it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] aragorn771:
My Faves is turned off by default for some reason... if you go into HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/HTC/Manilla/Manilla://myfaves.page.hidden and set it to Dword=0 it'll come on...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rsacipher:
Looks like it's $9.95 on Westtek's website. It was installed on the Touch HD but looks like the TMO Touch Pro 2 doesn't.

Not concerned about not having MyFavs, one less thing I need to disable.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] solsearch:
Different versions of the phone come with different software. Some come with Jetcet printing software, some with the Jetcet powerpoint editing/presenting software. There might even be versions with both or none. They should not be confused and you shouldn't assume that the preinstalled software on your phone is the same as all the other phones worldwide. Personally I haven't been able to test the printing software. Haven't even opened the program.
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] gage437:
sorry but i want to ask which app. is this photo from????? here is the screen

http://img3.imageshack.us/i/adszxu.jpg/

and if u know please give me a download link for x1 thanx
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] Rudegar:
you mean the youtube app

or the wm6.5 screenshot?
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] gage437:
wm 6.5 is it theme panel or app. like spb mobile shell????
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] outie:
No, wm 6.5 = Windows Mobile 6.5, the newer OS.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] alaaodeh:
hello

i have JAMA 201

i am installed wrong version on rom and now damaged only white screen

please can any body help

i need and rom working on this mobile imate JAMA 201

thanks
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] ala_borbe:
have you find the solution yet? i have my jama201 and i could dump my rom if only i have a tools to do so...

if you know how, ill be more than glad to help!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Krishath:
Hey guys can you suggest me the perfect settings for my 2GB sd?

Do I need to use Swap? (now I have 64 mb of swap)

What kind of EXT it's best? (now I have ext4)

Thank you! :)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AdrianK:
I believe ext4 is best, as it's the newest linux filesystem. I'm currently using ext3, because most ROMs don't support ext4, but I'll probably upgrade soon.

As for swap, I also have a 64mb swap partition, but default it isn't utilized. CompCache is already enabled, but I'd also like to know how to enable it.

EDIT: Swap requires a userinit.sh I'm about to try it out...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Krishath:
Yeah but what it's the best setting for this ROM?

EXT4 + SWAP 64MB are alright?

So swap partition isn't used by default? How we "activate" it?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AdrianK:
Isn't much difference between ext3 and ext4. Cyanogen himself uses ext4, so...

You need to make a custom userinit.sh, follow that guide I posted.

Swap size probably doesn't matter too much, as long as it's not too big. 64 will be fine, any speed increase from a different size will be minimal.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ultra spikey:
This is how I'm running 4.0.4...

- 32MB Linux Partition - enabled using Swapper.

- 528MHz set ALL the time - enabled using SetCPU(Makes the UI sooo much smoother. Didnt really notice a difference in battery life either).
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AdrianK:
Using userinit.sh I enabled CompCache with linux swap on a 64 partition and it does seem smoother. Also switched to ext4 now, don't really see a difference.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Krishath:
Will try it now
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Krishath:
Can you post your usernit.sh?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prince.siraj:
i would suggest you stick to ext3 because it's more commonly used as of right now... also 64mb is a good sized partition, and linux swap is good, but compcache and Backing Swap is a lot better...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Krishath:
Can I have some "made" files to put in my SD card? I have a "normal" 2GB microsd card with 64 mb of swap... I'd be glad for this :)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AdrianK:
I really dont see anything wrong with ext4, Ive had a look in a few rom release threads and most of them have support for it. I use cyanogen mod 99% of the time anyway...

Are you talking about userinit.sh and user.conf? Just follow the link I posted earlier, took me about 10 minutes to set up.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rockin_mod:
for swap dont go over 45mb. i honestly can notice the dif. i us my g1 as a test dummy. ext2,3,4 honestly does not make a dif in my eyes. i have tried all. i use linux mint to partition my sd. which by the way is the easiest and sickest way to partition. just had to put that out there for lin users. root root lol!! but ya. over 45mb makes me feel its really trying to find the swap space. try it and give me your opinion. i have partitioned my sd from recovery mkpartfs, windows partition to linux partition editor. ya. trust me. i currently use 40mb swap. that is what really matters. use at ur comfort and day to day usage. fosho!!