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[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Poke_N_PDA:
A new firmware version has reportedly solve most of the issues with sluggishness. More than likely, the sprint version will have this at launch. It should be nice and snapy. The only things keeping me from waiting for this over getting the TP2 are the lack of a keyboard, the screen size/resolution, and the fact that it might not support SERO. It's okay though because I haven't bought it yet and I'll still be in my 30 day time window if I want to return the TP2 and get a Hero.

I'm really wanting Android, but it just hasn't gotten to the specs I want yet. However, I have to say that the Sense UI on it is about the most amazing thing I've ever seen on a phone. I know they say it's coming to WiMo, but I'm just not confident it will be that fast or as good as the android version.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] dgourd:
A lot of phones really dont get optimized right away. Its kinda sad cause it brings the value down. Like the Hero is a great phone, but I geuss you need a ROM update for it to be optimized better.

The TP2 is actually extremely optimized right out the box since it has the same specs as the original, but it is a lot faster.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] techSage:
I've been told by several Sprint reps that Everything Plus (the new SERO and the name I was told my SERO plan already has) can be used on the TP2 and that the price will remain the same for me since I'm grandfathered at that price. We'll see what happens when I get it tomorrow and try to activate it with my current plan.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] tatnai:
I have android running on my vogue, with is probably the most advanced port currently. We still do not have functional bluetooth, GPS does not have all functionality, and a small number of us (seems to be the cdma folks) have problems with intermittently not having SMS and phone calls show up. It is a great port, but still not ready for heavy everyday use if your phone has to be 100% reliable; many people do use it as there primary OS.

Just trying to say that even on the vogue we are not "there" yet, it is likely very possible on the TP2, but will take modification of the kernel and other files to adapt to your hardware, and won't be perfect.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Sjuust:
How about the latest 1.6 donut on TP2? 1.6 supports the display resolution!

Link:

http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/09/android-16-sdk-is-here.html
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] tatnai:
it's a lot more than just resolution. dip into the multiple vogue android threads if you are compelled.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Poke_N_PDA:
Man, I bet getting the memory map would help out the port a lot. Wish HTC would release that.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Poke_N_PDA:
Are you talking about the $30 500 minute plan or the newer ESRP that is like $10 bucks cheaper than the normal plans? Either way, I know that the TP2 will work on it.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] SooooneR:
Donut!!

Supports CDMA and the higher resolutions... Please Devs work on this! I will pay money to have it! This will be the perfect combo of phone and OS. I hope this happens.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] gehzumteufel:
The biggest issue here is the bootloader. No one, that I am aware of, has modified a bootloader to allow the direct booting of Linux. Also, writing to the flash memory if I remember correctly was the other issue, but please do correct me if I am wrong on this aspect.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] tduck:
I agree COMPLETELY. Having spent some time with an iPhone, I have to say that onscreen keyboards, even in landscape mode, still suck.

Another thing I'd worry about with the Hero... not being able to install programs to a microSD card. I know that is an Android issue, not a Hero issue... if they could fix that, I might be able to get over the low resolution and lack of keyboard.

Where are they talking about putting Sense UI on Winmo 6.5?
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] gehzumteufel:
HTC said that Sense is on its way to WinMo via TF3d. Nothing new really. If you see the TF3d 2.5/2.6 setups, they resemble it a lot. Obviously, there are things that can't be the same (the way widgets and icons on the "desktop" appear, etc) due to OS limitations, but the core technology is being put into WinMo.

Installing programs to SD card is coming in 1.6. So no worries there.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] nikonmikon:
I totally wish the Touch Pro 2 could run Android. My girlfriend has the HTC g1 and I love the application market. It's really awesome.

The keyboard is the major awesome feature about this phone. I used to have an Instink which is now EXTINCT and I could not deal with the crappy on-screen keyboard. I actually broke it once because I hated it so much. I plan on shooting this one :D Record it in full glory and post it on youtube for other poor Instinct users.

I would pay for an Android conversion. Totally.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] gehzumteufel:
It can, but developing the code to enable it to happen is the issue. Even though some platforms seem to be very similar, different chips can be used.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] tatnai:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=382265

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=523692

http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android/downloads/list

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=396782

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=556549

the work so far, there are also polaris forums
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] SooooneR:
Question tatnai...

tatnai... I see alot of work on the vogue... when do you think you guys will start on Rhodium with donut? Any info at all would be great! Thank you for your time!
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Poke_N_PDA:
Question. Is your name for the Oklahoma Sooners? I ask because mine is for the Oklahoma State Cowboys. I'm an OSU alumni.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] tatnai:
i'm not a developer, i've just been following it for a while. usually what it takes is a developer with the device to begin collaborating with dzo, vilrod, or one of the other vogue developers to figure out what needs to be done, and then goes and does it. no one is going to port to rhodium without a rhodium.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] SooooneR:
Your spot on! :) Sooner alum. Season ticket holder. Getting ready to head to the game. I wish your cowboys would have stayed undefeated until we met up in late Nov.

Thanks for the info tatnai... I hope they eventually get this going. IMO I think this would be the perfect combo of phone and OS. I really love the Pre but couldn't resist the larger screen and keyboard of the TP2.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] RonDutt:
Haven't played with Android much but I've been doing linux embedded development for quite some time now. I'm more than willing to get things started but I can't do it alone (even with guidance from the Vogue/Polaris developers)...if there are others who want to step up, PLEASE private message me. Just like a lot of people here, I would LOVE to have Android/1.6 on my TP/TP2 (when I get it, hopefully next Saturday).

Getting Android to boot directly is a major obstacle, one that would require reverse engineering the radio/firmware. A better option would be a ultra-slim WinMo that would simply boot and start haret off SD/onboard.

If people would like to donate, please PM me for my Paypal address. I don't need any donations but hey, a free TP2 is better than a $XXX one ;)
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] gehzumteufel:
If only reverse engineering of the radio/firmware would happen. I am sure HTC uses a similar procedure call for every one, just changing the hardware specific things. If we can somehow determine what it requires to change the bootloader of every HTC device.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Poke_N_PDA:
This may be a stupid question, but has anyone tried asking HTC nicely for the information we'd need to work on Android on the tp2? I for the most part the work here makes HTC phones better and therefore is good for HTC. I'm sure they wouldn't mind if someone could get a quality working ROM of Android for their phone. probably won't happen, but it's worth asking.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] RonDutt:
HTC makes phones/hardware and software specific to a carrier. The only way we would see a Android ROM for a TP2 is if we were a carrier like Sprint and asked for Android instead of WinMo (and ordered 100,000 units or more). They're pretty *****y about releasing anything major...the bootcode is major. They do have to uphold the wishes of the carriers too, at least to an extent. I tried asking some info about the MSM7201a a while ago (for D3D/graphics driver development), they flat out said no.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] nikonmikon:
god that sucks... why wouldn't they want that? corporations need to be more progressive...
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] gehzumteufel:
Yeah that is normal RonDutt. Did you ever see the issues with the Kaiser? Nothing new if you ask me.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] xbsteve:
The EP plan is NOT the same as SERO. I was told I had to get the EP plan if i wanted the TP2. They told me SERO would only work on the LG Lotus and some other crapphone. This is not true. I currently have a $45/m 1250 SERO F&F w/unlimited data plan and am happily using it with my TP2. Just order your TP2 via telesales and when you activate it, do it online, you will get to keep your SERO plan, no matter what bs they tell you.

Btw, don't pay for GPS either. Just download the Google Maps program and it will do everything.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] SooooneR:
should be interesting

Let me know what I can do to help! Hopefully some coders will take interest in this once the unlocker is finished and make it happen. Crosses fingers!:)
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] TonyTekInsights:
I assume this will be true with the Hero too. I have the same SERO plan you have and been trying to decide if to upgrade my TP to a TP2 or the Hero.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] eb50:
negative. SERO does not work with HERO, Instinct, or PRE
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] notinkeys:
I have been trying to restore my contacts from my Mogul to my new TP2 with no success. When I try restoring just the contact data with SPB Backup, it hoses CPROG.EXE and SERVICES.EXE ...

Is there any other way to transfer the phone list? I have a LOT of stuff there I don't wish to lose.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] TweakMyDevice:
I've used Total Commander to save pim.vol file to my storage card. Pop it in the TP2 and copy over.

Also use an exchange server. Google has a free one. I like Mail2web.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] nonzenze:
Export to outlook, import from outlook.

Why the **** would you try to do it the most complicated way? ActiveSync exists to SYNC.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] notinkeys:
Because my Outlook contact list is not on this machine; as well, I have a different contact list in Outlook from my personal directory on the phone. I don't generally sync the contact lists.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Americanmetal:
Microsoft My Phone

Login on Mogul

Sync.

Login on Tp2

Sync.

/thread
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] nonzenze:
You can run ActiveSync without syncing contacts. Just uncheck them from the list.

Worst case, if you don't want to touch your outlook, make another account on your machine, get a clean outlook profile, sync, sync, delete the account.

Simpler = better.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] TheSapient:
If there is Sprint Store nearby, they will transfer your contacts quickly.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] xelasha:
Is there any other music player available other tgan WM thats lighter on resources, Wm really slows down my phone when running, and iv never liked wm anyway.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] supersanj:
you can try S2P (Slide2Play)

http://ac-s2.com/
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] insaint:
There are plenty. The TCPMP or CorePlayer even, are better music players (you can even turn off the display while playing) than WMP. There is GSPlayer, Nitrogen Player, the forementined Slide2Play, Pomod, WinVibe, PocketMusic (can use classic Winamp skins), MortPlayer and there are more.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cxxx999:
can you please recommend me ROM wm6.5 in english that is most nearly to the default ms or htc build. without some extra programs and without removed some programs or tools. and which radio and spl to use with it.

thanx a lot
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pjcforpres:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=533976

"If you post a redundant thread, SPAM, flame or violate any rules. Your thread will be closed or deleted without warning. Useless threads like those that address an issue such as "Which ROM is the best," "Kaiser vs iPhone," or "Kaiser Killer" will be closed. You could also be banned for violating the rules."
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cxxx999:
i'm sorry for that please. i just got my new kaiser and i can't get wait to try :) please understand me. thanx a lot
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pjcforpres:
Read the link and follow the guides. Nobody, no matter how much you pander, is going to give you a better link than the one I gave you, or a better answer than what the link provides.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] msd24200:
and DONT start new threads until you read forum rules, this type of thread is not allowed, flash flash flash, good luck
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ai6908:
Try my ROM...see link in the below sign!

(Joining the band wagon here folks!:D)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] soulbandaid:
The att rom is the best because its the only one made for your phone by the carriers, who care the most about your fulfillment with your phone on their network.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Please try a few, just make a decision and if you don't like it, try another :).

Dave
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] DMaverick50:
With my g1 and now this phone i have to go to settings>synchronization>menu and press 'sync now' to re-sync my gmail/calendar/contacts every couple of days.

What am I doing that unsynchronizes these things? The only thing I could think of was rebooting the phone but i have 'auto sync' checked so what should i avoid doing in order to maintain synchronization?

Thank you
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] nmesisca:
?well if you modify one of those from either the phone apps or the gmail website they wont be synched anymore... right?

what should you do to maintain synch? not change any contact/event etc.

can you not just synch automatically every hour or so?

whats the point of having that phone..?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] te_quiero_forever_girl:
I just flashed the latest JAC's hero. Everything seemed fine ( I did wipe cuz I went from CM 4.0.4 ), but now I got stuck at the HTC logo. I don't think I am really stuck cuz I just received a phone call and I answered it fine. I can even unlock the screen by dragging down but after that, it's the HTC logo, I can't get pass ! Please help !!!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evilkorn:
Bad flash/corrupt download? You have the correct partitions and radio/spl right?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] te_quiero_forever_girl:
Yes, I have 3 partitions ( FAT32/EXT3/32mb-SWAP ). I did flashed the Haykuro's SPL so there's hell no way it's because of my redio or SPL. Thanks for replying anyway
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Reverend Gridlock:
Wipe, reflash, it's a bad launcher, well rosie. Might be a bug, if it happens again, change roms
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] te_quiero_forever_girl:
Well I don't think it's a bootloop since all the buttons light up and the phone went to sleep ! Never had this before, it's just weird though
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Reverend Gridlock:
It's not a bootloop, I just told you what it is, I had it happen on a cyan rom with the advance launcher
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] te_quiero_forever_girl:
It's just hanging there on the HTC screen ! What do you suggest ? I read from the development section and they said it took a while to get it booted up the first time
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nolimit78:
that is correct how long did you let it sit? It can take up to about 15 minutes to get the setup screens.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oshizzle1991:
dude it just takes a while for your phone to get used to hero. this happens every time i flash one but after half an hour it gets hella fast. give it time
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] te_quiero_forever_girl:
Thank u guys, I waited patiently and the phone finally booted up ! My only concern is that I just reformatted my SD to get 96 MB SWAP. I tried to upgrade to ext3 by typing upgrade_fs but when I pressed print to double check, it was still ext2 =.=" Any suggestion ?

Nvm, I did it though ( it was just a bad mistake when I entered the script in parted )
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] svtfmook:
i have a jabra sp700 and the jack. i can connect just fine, however, if i want to play music, i have to go into bluetooth setting, uncheck headset and wireless speakers, hit done, then go back in and recheck headset and speakers.

is there a setting i can change to not have to do this?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Cphil1:
Hey guys,

I've been looking for something I had on my wizard a while back. I had something that made my SD card appear as if it was the wizard's hard drive. I remember when I would look at memory, it would show under internal memory something like 2000mb as opposed to the standard 50mb. I've searched all around and was never able to find that again.

At the same time, I was wondering if UC capable roms are not the same thing...? Anyone care to explain exactly what that means?

Thanks,

Phil
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Azazello:
That would be WM5torage
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] nestu:
WM5torage

Don't really think that WM5torage is what Cphil1 is looking for. WM5torage simply makes your Wizard's SD card visible as would a "pen drive" from your PC. It doesn't "tag on" the card's larger memory to the smaller internal one - which if I understand correctly, is what Cphil1 is after.

Cheers.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Cphil1:
Well...

So far, no luck...

I still haven't found that app. I'm very disappointed that I flashed my roms without remembering that I had something like that! :confused:

Anyways, I still would like to know what is the complete definition of UC capable. Would it be a way to store program files on the storage card all the while running it from the ppc?

Phil
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] nestu:
UC

Far as I know, and that's very limited indeed, UC stands for User-Customisable (Customised). ROMs that are UC capable auto-install a predefined set of applicatons located on one's SD. So basically, one can preconfigure the stuff one wants to have installed and "newer" ROMs would automatically read the list and install apps accordingly.

Hope that helps.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] plfinch:
Anybody using AT&T FamilyMap? I'm giving the free trial a go and cannot get a location better than a mile or two. This is true even when I have a GPS lock with a HDOP of 1.1 or better. I have AGPS enabled and unrestricted. Phone is a Fuze with AT&T/HTC WM6.1 OEM ROM.

Peter
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Bruce Inman:
Sounds like your locking onto cell towers instead of GPS.

Get yourself a GPS starter utility like GPS Viewer
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] plfinch:
The original post indicates I have a good position lock with GPS while testing. I am using VisualGPSce. I did more testing today and it does not appear that the GPS position is being used at all by FamilyMap. Even with a good GPS position I was presented with a 6.1 mile position radius in FamilyMap. I guess I need an alternative to FamilyMap that will attempt to use GPS but use cell tower triangulation if needed. I have Sprite Terminator but it will only provide a position if there is a GPS fix. This intent is to find my son's cellphone when he loses it (again).
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Bruce Inman:
Ah, as for the intent, try W.I.M.P.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fone_fanatic:
yep, family map does' tuse the devices GPS

from at&t's family map FAQ
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] plfinch:
FamilyMap does use GPS if available:

"AT&T FamilyMap uses several different techniques to locate a phone. AT&T phones that are A-GPS can return a very accurate location (within a few yards) if the phone can "see" the GPS satellites. For all other phones, the system automatically uses alternative location technologies. In these cases, you may receive a location with an accuracy of a few hundred yards or more. When you request a location, you will be given the best possible location fix given the conditions."

I just tried it on a Motorola Tundra with AGPS and it routinely gets within 10-15 yards which is close enough for my purposes. But on a Fuze it does not use the AGPS and can have an error radius of several miles using tower triangulation. This is true, as I said, even with a good GPS fix when location is requested.

Peter
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] twopumpchump:
ive been getting pms from people wondering why i dont release all the new builds for kaiser, i usually do release them but they are hidden in the 600+ pages of my thread. so from now on i am going to do things differently, all new builds will be published in their own thread and will be a light rom with stock everything :) if they pass the test here, then i may decide to dress them up and release them in my main rom thread. all roms come with stock themes, classic blue is default. these roms are light and FAST, just because they look like stock doesnt mean i havent included my tweaks ;) special thanks to Da_G for bringing us all the new builds, without him none of this would be possible :D

if you are a first time flasher or if you have a problem with the rom, read the FAQ by zelendel in post 2 before you post a question in the thread

NEW....i am releasing 2 versions of 23053, they are exactly the same as far as included applications. there will be 23053 stock-like(normal rom) and the new 23053 stock-like(test version). the test version only has around 68mb of free storage, while the normal version has 145+. most people use sd cards for storage anyways so i hope that some people will try the test rom because i think its the fastest rom ive ever had on my kaiser :) hopefully others who try it will agree. i am keeping the link to the test rom here so there will be no confusion about what the user is downloading/installing. the link to the normal version will be at the bottom of this post with the other builds.

Download TPC Stock-Like Rom build 23053 TEST ROM WITH 68mb of free storage

just a few screenshots....

here is a benchmark from this build....

DOWNLOAD TPC 23047 Stock-Like Rom HERE

DOWNLOAD TPC 23049 Stock-Like Rom HERE

DOWNLOAD TPC 23052 Stock-Like Rom HERE

DOWNLOAD TPC 23053 Stock-Like Rom NORMAL VERSION HERE

DOWNLOAD TPC 23071 Stock-Like Rom NORMAL VERSION HERE

DOWNLOAD TPC 23071 Stock-Like Rom UNCOMPRESSED VERSION HERE

DOWNLOAD TPC 28002 Stock-Like Rom HERE

cab for mega dialer(fixed for newest builds) HERE
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] twopumpchump:
please read this if you have a problem before posting in the thread
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] twopumpchump:
Mine, cuz josh's mom rules.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Tiago.Reis:
Here I am!

Hey man!!!

Thanks for the tip about 23047!

I have just flashed it!

And solved my problem mentioned in the previous one!!

I have to say that this one looks prettier than the previous!!! :D

I'll perform some test in the things I use, then I can reply back to this thread!!

Keep up the good work!!!

:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] blackcat1:
Very fast Rom

What are the difference in 23409 23045 23047 roms and is 23409 is the newest one ???
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] twopumpchump:
they are all just different builds that have come out the last few days. 23409 is the oldest of the three actually, it just came from a different com tree so has a higher number. the newest is 23047, it was just released a couple hours ago you should try it :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] blackcat1:
Thanks for the superfast reply

Yes I am downloading the the rom and will try.:cool::cool::cool: