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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Ramsfan_Jim:
What issues did you have with 23504? I'm debating whether to upgrade..

The only one I've seen reported so far is that you can't see percentage memory usage.

Cheers,
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jank0023:
I had issues with missing menu icons on multiple screens. Also wasn't fond of the task manager or lack their off (although it is minimized with the inclusion of Showdaco)

I'm starting to stay away from the 23xxx builds more and more, I just don't have the time or patience to deal with issues as I use this phone for business.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steel968:
Thanks so much for the info, guess i should have explored more! I installed the standard ROM, the more stable version and this rocks, so much better than what came on the Tilt 2!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] worldfamous:
23504 11/8

I really enjoy this ROM I have no issues as of yet and I went for a 5 mile run this morning running the FM radio and my battery is holding up at 89 percent when finished. Thank you NRG for the ROM. I like it better than the 23081 build. Keep up the good work.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] esincho:
did U use a back up app like SPB or Sprite 2 restore wit? if so that's the reason 4 the missing icons. I learned how 2 u sashimi. Only problem I have wit quick menu is the small icons, the app needs 2 be updated. But it's more stable than showcase.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jank0023:
No backup...flashed 23504 and immediately the menu icons are missing from inbox and with notifications
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] orb3000:
Same here!

Since yesterday trying to download but can´t:(

Hope this link get to work properly soon
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] esincho:
Oh ok. maybe try 2 flash again. I'm not having that and hadn't seen anyone else with this problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bennyb0y:
Yep! Refer to the below. Do you know anyone who can help with 3G / HSDPA ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Aightu:
Sorry sorry ace! :o

I searched for this one but really cant find it :o

Does anyone know how to put installed programs into a submenu of the main menu?

Like tom tom etc?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] NRGZ28:
Umm.. I made the transparent slider, therefore I would know of the overlaps. Unfortunately I havent found a solution yet. Is it REALLY that bad ? Come on.. stop nitpicking and enjoy the rest of the ROM that is pretty much flawless.

Go use another ROM then!

p.s. Damn I hate whiners :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] henh:
hi NRG

there's only small number of people don't like the transparent clock & slider, i personally like them. if it possible, can you make the cabs for the original Clock & Slider for someone who doesn't like new things (maybe cabs already there in the first page?)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Ramsfan_Jim:
21864 or 23504 - that is the question

I notice there is now a standard 8/11 21864 in hotfile (As well as 23504).

This raises 2 questions: - What are the changes from 3/11 21864 (so is it worth me upgrading?)?

- What are the differences between 21864 and 23504? Judging by comments so far, 23504 still seems to be a 'beta' with associated instability - whereas 21864 should be stable. Is this a reasonable assessment?

Cheers - and thanks again NRG for keeping our devices at the cutting edge of available software.

Thanks,

Jim.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tclutterbuck:
Phone Weaver

Loving the ROM just flashed 23504 - vast improvement on voda uk rom

I've got the volume control niggle that has been mentioned - would love to get this sorted?

Only other thing with this and the 11/3 ROM was that I cannot get phoneweaver to run, anyone else got this problem?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] E90 Commie:
There´s a solution to the "double digit problem".

Just install a transparent slider bar and the NRGZ28 transparent slider will work without any problems. I´m now on EnergyROM Standard 23504 20091108 and there´s no double digit problem at all.

Keep up the good work!

The new ROM is the first 6.5.1 I think is worth keeping.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] henh:
i think 21864 is more stable, according to NRG & other Chefs but still some minor bugs. i remember the first custom ROM(s) with build 23016 were very buggy too, but now that build became rock stable. i would try every new build, first to help reporting bugs so the Chefs find the fix for it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Use Total Commander or File Explorer/other.

Navigate to the \Windows\Start Menu folder.

Find and copy (or "cut") the link to the app you're interested in moving.

Move (paste) the link to whatever subfolder of \Windows\Start Menu that you want to see the app appear. (Create a new subfolder if you want something different/custom)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] guntcent:
Problem

hey i still have the Double digit problem man. NRG can you look into this bro thx.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bennyb0y:
I just replied. See a couple of posts baack.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] LOSTUSERNAME:
tv out

Is tv out missing in 11-8-2009 Photon 21864, or am i missing somthing :S ? Otherwise awesome as usual!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Raychem:
Yep... had the same problem but all you have to do is go to start> settings>connections> go into usb to pc and unselect the enable faster data sync. close it and resync. I did that and it worked. it is a TCP/IP 990 port issue. Maybe a conflict.

SEARCH PLEASE... It was discussed earlier in this thread under an ATT tilt 2 fix. Use search this thread to find it. I dont feel like looking right now. It is a manila file you have to replace

Read above

NRG just posted about this...He knows it is there.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Raychem:
23504

NRG,

I like the new 23504 release. Runs very good...no quirks for me personally so far. I liked the suprise too.

Just keep working your magic! This thread is not popular for nothing. Thanks for everything.

Richard
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Aightu:
Superb thanks very much!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] airon11:
i'd like to revert back to the stock white taskbar icons (and also stock flip clock)

but the cabs are no more on the original thread....

i had the old ones saved, but the original clock doesn't work, and the taskbar icons are ok, but no bt icons are included...

so i'd like to know if some one could please send me the original bluetooth icons (the white ones)that are in windows directory, all start with bt and are bmp (bt on mode.bmp etcetc).

in total are 6 bmps

thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vudu:
Installed 11/8 23504 Titanium last night and starting to put it to my normal use test. First impression is that it is fast! Things seem to load up a lot quicker than previously. With the tip about removing posfix from the startup folder, I can use mobile shell and love it.

One issue that has been mentioned already I think is the missing menu icons in Messaging. When Messenging is open and you are on the account chooser, going to the menu does't give you the option of going into the settings (so i can't choose to store attachments on the sd card). When reading emails, there is no menu at all so you can not select all messages and mark as read for example or delete a message that you are currently reading. The delete function is now on the screen with the list of messages (probably a new feature of the build itself), which is a pain since there are no directional keys to scroll in portrait mode.

That is all i have noticed so far, but i am still sticking with this rom for now.

Edit: Actually, even though icons are not there, you can still press in the softkey area to bring up menu. So you can still do everything you need to do if you know your way around.

Edit2: On a different note, I can't seem to send emails. Tried it on a couple different accounts. Also, using Seven, so not sure where the problem lies, but I have been able to send emails using Seven in the past. Can anyone confirm they can send emails on the 23504 ROM who's not using Seven?

Edit3: Okay, sending email works fine. Just took it's time and doesn't respond to the send and receive all function. Sends whenever it wants to send...probably on Seven's timeline.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chrisrj28:
Flipping clock

I noticed in the 11-8 release that NRG implemented the .cab to stop the 1 hour two minute flip. Was I one of the only ones that thought that was cool? I liked the adjustment that it made, it shows off TouchFlo lol
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Hi NRG,

Have to say that you're the best chef out there!!! GREAT ROM's!! Thank you for your time and effort. I don't have anything to complain here.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] airon11:
for bluetooth icons i managed to dump the original wm6.5 rom and i extracted the files...i don't know which ones are the clock files...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
21864 08 Nov 2009 Standard

This ROM is awesome!!!! I just love it!!!

Compliments to the chef!!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] t69broken:
Nope not the only one

I did but just like everything else things change.

I have been a 21xxx user forever and tried probably 4 of the 23xxx builds on my spare to see the flow of everything if I liked it or not. Just loaded the 11/8 23504 build on my day to day user and am loving it. So must easier to use with the big buttons. Lovin it NRG!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] orb3000:
1st impressions

Overall performance is slightly better than in previous version

I can´t run Weather database editor to add my city, it displays this message:

file write protection of database couldn´t removed

Any recommendation?

Thanks,

EDIT:

Managed to add my city, just replaced a file to windows directory and voila!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aragorn771:
23504 Build

HOLY CRAP!!! The GPS for me has been fantastic since flashing to this ROM...I have no real opinon on the rest yet except visually I like it, and it does seem faster, but I downloaded it late last night, and working today, but using GPS a few times to get places, I mean it took seconds not minutes to get it's location...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gehzumteufel:
I can confirm that I have this too. I am running the latest 23504. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] buffalosolja42:
great job nrg

I will flash this then go to 2.5 later ;), your roms are the bomb. And the 2.5 has me spoiled now lol thanks for all you do.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
No double digit here...

I don't have this issue.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] esincho:
YEP. This is the best way. You'll see..

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=546141
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] esincho:
sms and email still do. What's the big deal wit this anyway? Is it that serious? NRG already said he know about this, he'll fix it..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gehzumteufel:
lol dude, you missed it didn't you? Go look at the pic again. ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aragorn771:
23504

Seeing some of the posts complaining of double digits and missing icons...I have no missing icons, nor double digits, I did notice last night for a moment the PM on the clock was a little doubled, but that's far from a bother if it stayed. Also noticed it when messages are unread, can't see why peopl care about that though! Just read your messages or move the slider off of it... The ROM is much faster. There were little momentary freezes after flashing but I haven't seen them since last night. The invisible slider is koooool as hell...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Ooops sorry.

My apologies. So sorry about that.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gehzumteufel:
It's all good. We all make mistakes.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
Hey Raychem,

You provide sound feedback, let me know your thoughts on 23504 after a few days use.

I use my phone mostly for business, so I'm leaning towards 21864 11/8 for now. But, if you're seeing good results with 23504, I'll give it a run in a few days.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] worldfamous:
I can not send emails but only receive on 23504. it states message could not be sent check that you have network coverage and that your account information is correct then try sending again. I even changed connection settings from epc.tmobile to wap.voicestream.com and it did not work. But I am not to worried. I really don't use email on my phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] orb3000:
Thanks mate

haven´t saw the new version.

But I only changed a dll file and now it´s working even without installing the new app

Cheers,

-------------------------

I use my device for business also and till now haven´t detected anything wrong

Icons display good

Performance better than previous version

my location working

I have 80-95 Mb free RAM running Manila

testing battery life....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ind0mi:
where did the files go to in hotfile? deleted?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Russ741:
Hey cmd512,

I have been running the 23081 build for several days, also 100% for business and no major issues with it. Once I got that damn lockscreen keypad fixed it's been all good. The only thing I haven't figured out yet is how to 'retract' the one screen keyboard, it gets in the way of forms, etc. In the older versions there was a small triangle, tap it and the keyboard 'retracted' that triangle isn't there in any of the 23XXX builds I have played with. The workaround is to open and close the hardware keyboard. It doesn't happen often enough to be a major pain.

Also, I moved from Austin about a year ago (Damn has it been that long really?) miss it. Go see my friends at Amaya's Taco Village (capital plaza, I35N) tell them Russ said hi!

I will be flashing the 23504 build tonight and will post results.

Russ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] neiljarman:
Your ROMs 'are cool and reliable'. I got your EnergyROM_23504_RHODIUM_08.Nov.2009_Standard in the early hours of this morning and it is fine for me, however I am not a 'power user'. To show my confidence, the Pro2 is my only alarm clock and I always seem to upgrade to your latest builds between 1am and 2am - what trust!

I am looking forward to getting hold of your Manila 2.5 ROM in due course. If only my Jade (RUU_signed_EssPack_CE_OS_5.2.21501_Build_21501.5.0.70__OEM_2.32.723.2__SPL_2.32.44800) was as reliable as your Rhodium builds are; it semi-locks itself up after overnight hibernation, otherwise is a very nice implementation!

Keep up the excellent work my friend.

P.S. I like your Tweet about clicking where Start used to be. I prefer this to Showcase, as it puts me back in control.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
You moved away from Austin? I thought people only moved in, not out. ;)

Thanks for the feedback, will look forward to your update!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] neiljarman:
I believe new 2.5 versions are being prepared, according to NRGZ28's Tweet, and he is probably going to release them on 23504 soon.

His main page says that if they are not there they are either being prepared or are not available for this platform!

I am as eager as you are.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cuatro:
is there a way to remove/move the internet shortcuts on the Internet tab?

like remove the IE one or move the facebook one down the list?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
They were already released on 11/8, but NRG pulled them down for some reason. He's releasing 11/9 revisions now I believe.

EDIT: Sorry, just noticed you're talking about 2.5 Manila. Don't know about 2.5, there's another thread for that.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] guntcent:
its only on the Message Tab man
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JustusIV:
I will be receiving my Touch Pro 2 hopefully tomorrow. This will be the first rom i am trying. Anything i should be aware of? i am coming from a mogul running the 6.5 builds.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] TR_Maniac:
dowloading 11-9 standard R2 version now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] orb3000:
New 9 Nov 23504 ROM!

Wow NRGZ you are damm fast!

Seems I can´t download:(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rosebud:
Best Rom ever.

speed, stability, cutting edge what more could I ask for,

only thing as mentioned is the double digit thingy on messages... thing is who gives a cr@p, this is the best rom ever if thats the only thing wrong with it, im sure i can live ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jcrompton:
Hey I asked this same question once before with this newer style of OS (regarding the keyboard) -- if you will hit the area just to the left of the keyboard icon or the area just below it, i.e., between the keyboard icon and the zoom panel then the onscreen keyboard will retract.

I assume this was an effort to make things a little more finger friendly since the little triangle thingy was so small - but you kinda need to know this ...

Let me know if it works with this latest build , but it has for previous ones
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] innovator8:
It was on some tmo news blog somewhere I believe.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ace10134:
Even on the default ROM that came with your phone, the RAM usage would start at 55%.

That's entirely normal. Don't worry, you really won't run out of RAM. I haven't yet, and I'm a pretty hefty user.

If you're interested in getting more RAM, however, you can always use CleanRAM. When you run that, it frees up some RAM from your phone, saving you from soft resets!

Also, you could flash a ROM without Manila 2.1, since that "3D" homescreen consumes a good amount of RAM. Your choice.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mshabandar:
thanks alot
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sklenke:
Got it working ... thanks for looking out
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] innovator8:
I do not have but only like 7 or so to choose from, and none of them are the transformers one. There are many sounds in windows dir that are not available from the list in the sliding sounds menu.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mynameisplayer:
Telstra users with this rom???

Because its crash-tacular for me.... :(

Issues are..

Hangs for up to 1 min when "slide to unlock"

No landscape on home page ( I think its a known issue..)

When pressing missed sms or call notification on top bar - it goes to the "system status" page, then clicking on the missed call button, it goes to 3g status..

Im going to something else...maybe for a while. Id like to see my calender notes listed like the standard rom, like to see "today screen" when locked...

Never had to restart with the Telsra rom, just hated it for not being changeable.. Had to restart energy 3-4 times a day...

I do appreciate the hard work the smarter-than-me ppl have done in getting things like this off the ground, and Im not bagging what theyve done, just its not working for me.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] thanutz:
Great Rom but video playback not great

Great rom, just moved over from the stock UK vodafone rom and it would seem that the rom is far more stable. using the standard manilla 2.1 version.

However the video playback is far inferior that that of the vodafone rom. This could be due to the move from wm 6.1 -> 6.5 rather than the rom itself.

Divx and xvid clips that use to play flawlessly now are dropping frames using Coreplayer (tired tcpmp, mobile divx player and core player) and all are doing the same.

Any suggestions?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mahmoud Moussa:
many thanks Energy

the rom is very nice but the Patery is fineshed quicklly and Olso the Wifi is very short range than the Origenal ROM from HTC and Olso not support for the Landscap

thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ace10134:
Don't write in such large font, your words are no more important than others!

But the ROM wouldn't have an effect on the WiFi, that's just your mind playing games on you :D

And why landscape on the homescreen doesn't work, is because, you flashed a BETA!! We told you that landscape wouldn't work on the Manila 2.5 version, since HTC hasn't finished creating it yet. NRG has said countless times that Manlia 2.5 is a beta, and that not everything will work perfectly.

If you want landscape, flash the Standard version.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jupiler2006:
mhm, maybe not very useful but did you an hard reset after the flash?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] veinslay:
hmm the memory starts at 55%, and everytime I open Opera browser and close it, it jumps to 71% (there is no other program running)

I check at the task manager, and it is the gwes.exe that's eating up the RAM, the gwes.exe mem usage goes from 13xxx Kb to 27xxx Kb

it wasnt like this with the warhawk,

is it just me that have this problem with genesis?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] NRGZ28:
New ROM anybody ? :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] moloise:
i'm game for it :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] NRGZ28:
And how is that a "problem" exactly ? Noticed how heavily skinned this ROM is ? Of course gwes is gonna eat a crapload of RAM to display all that...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mobile88:
Confirmation number: 2YU772671K6304208

My small contribution towards your development. Please keep it up and good job. Of course some small bugs here n there but this is one must learn and appreciate to bear as all this are in beta stage
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] madman1520:
can someone tell me how quickly this runs compared to stock?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ace10134:
Better :)

It's a good improvement over the bloated stock ROM's, especially the T-Mobile one!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rajbsn:
Great ROM and I have been using Aug 30th Manila 2.5 version. But when I get to call history (All) i can't get to the missed calls and I can get to the missed calls only if I specifically filter them. Does anyone encounter this issue?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] madman1520:
i dont have the t-mobile one :) also, i cant get it to install it always crashes, just like the AUG 30 update, and one of the .exes from another rom doesnt work with this ROM either, but it works with other roms? help?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tkalli:
Downloading...

:D

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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ace10134:
I'll take that action :) DLing now.....Updating Wingster soon...

Missed Calls show fine in my Call History (On Manila 2.1 version)

I have no clue why it isn't flashing right. You followed the instructions perfectly? Idk then. Maybe someone else will......(If your comment doesn't get lost in the comment sprees of "Downloading now", lol)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] guntcent:
ATTENTION

Dont flash the 11/9 the file is corruped i flashed it and it stayed at the boot loader wait until nrg fixed this
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rosebud:
I only just flashed 11/8! lol, unless there are any major changes i'll be sticking with it :D (for the short term anyway ;) )