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[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] palexr:
Bad idea!

This could really get divisive.

As has already been said (by people who know what they are talking about), 32A & 32B are identical to 99%. Developments in the one are virtually immediately applicable to the other. So instead of (at best) duplicating effort on two forums we are much better off with the one. At worst, and more probably, one or the other will simply miss out on something.

For the sake of a couple of seconds it takes to read thread's title with a bit of attention I think the benefits are not worth losing or delaying by having two forums.

Also, universal ROMs aren't that far away (?), which forum would carry on?

READ THE TAGS
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] origins81:
+1

Eliminates guess work and the annoying "is this for 32A or 32B?" that's in almost every thread. Ultimately it makes it user friendly for new members.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Amon_RA:
If everyone just sticks to the tagging there is no need for creating separate subforums...

This forum is not just about ROMs guys!

Please be aware that you can also have development things that belong to both 32A en 32B like mods, recoveries, scripts, etc. What will you do with these? Post them twice?

I noticed that some devs already changed the tags (including me) and it indeed looks better now.

I propose to stick to the proposed tag system "[what] [board] [date] : name version"

E.g. :

[ROM] [32A] [08/28/2009] myrom v1

[RECOVERY] [32B] [06/01/2009] awesomeness v10

[MOD] [32A] [10/01/2009] Audiohack v15

[SCRIPT] [32A and 32B] [06/06/2009] upgradeFS v1
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] palexr:
Give us a poll and I'll vote for you suggestion :)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Wysie:
I'd say no, especially when there's a chance of getting universal 32A/B ROMs soon :).
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] donepate:
Seperate forums would be easier on the newbs, thus, easier on the veterans.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Howler62:
The problem i find in looking for 32a articles is i have to sift through all the "will this work on my G1 or my touch" or partion a sd card like this to swap blah blah because my 192 ram runs this too slow type of posts... even if it clearly states 32a you will always see those in there somewhere
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ricardomega:
Hmmm, the solution will be to put tag like 32A (MAGIC ONLY) or 32B (G2 and maybe G2 :P) ;)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] robocik:
+1 for this tagging :) me like it a lot.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] :
There are several topics that are related to both the models (32A and 32B) and even to the Dream: future cyanogen unified roms, applications related topics,.... Should we keep open two thread for the same argument? How do you think we can follow both the discussions?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] palexr:
:) Who gets the job of seperating the threads that already exist :eek:
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Talon88:
Putting Tag like [32a] or [Rogers Magic]... is better I guess,

as long as the Thread starter do that...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] tazz9690:
i agree 100%
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] JoshHart:
As long as it's marked it doesn't matter.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ahmgsk:
both are diff.

htc sapphire

has 2 boards (32A & 32B)

2 board hav diff problems so diff solutions

so diff roms

so y no diff sub forums????

"it should at least save some confusion for new members"
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] MontAlbert:
because a lot of things can relate to both- eg. if i port a 32B rom to 32A there may be issues with it relating to either, or Amon_RAs recovery- he has both 32A and 32B versions- he would have to maintain 2 threads in 2 totally different sections, loccy's browser, etc.....

As long as titles are labelled i dont see a problem, so it takes you an extra couple of minutes to read BFD.... noobs could do with a bit more reading anyway....
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ahmgsk:
wats the result of the pollllll

are 32 a & b going to seperated????????????????

n when
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] adelco93:
bump, i want to see this happen.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] :
The admin of this site has to decide: if they think (against the poll result) that this is a bad idea, then the forum for sapphire will be unique. I don't like the idea to have two forums. :p
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Draxter:
Yes there should be separate forums! It's so confusing and annoying to have to read all thread titles that don't even apply to my own phone... Stuff like kernels and wlan.ko's aren't even needed in 32B. Im kind of tired of all the "rogers, hongkong, Nordic" threads to be honest :) .
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Amon_RA:
If it's that confusing you shouldn't be messing around with ROMs...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] stevetigersix:
most of the roms are clearly marked and as long as members with each board type read the topic post prior to posting and stay clear of asking q's in the threads that are not for their respective boards its all good and no need for seperates
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] limkoksoon:
i agree too, sometimes its really confusing u know..
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Wysie:
I'm surprised many people are voting for Yes :(. I have to agree with MontAlbert's and Amon_RA's comment.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Howler62:
even now without seperating these 2 you always see people posting i did this and it wont work with my G1... you would think if he had a G1 he wouldnt be here in the first place
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Mi|enko:
It's only confusing when somebody doesn't put 32a or 32b on their rom.

What I would like to see is the 32b section merged with the dream forum and then all 32B roms fully compatible between the 2 (like Cy's roms) and then have a 32a section of it's own. I know this is pie in the sky stuff, but still. . . it's what I'd like to see. lol
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] biktor_gj:
It would be a waste of time and resources, and we would have the same posts on both forums and noobs flooding the same questions twice instead of one. I think there's enough crap with just one forum, two would be a suicide. Not to mention that admins and moderators would have 2x work to do to keep it as clean as possible...

It's like making a subforum for the First Diamond revision and another one for the second. It's a nonsense for me.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] redmdc:
To be fair its only noobs that would actually flash a rom without thinking and maybe shouldn't have root in the first place. Total waste of time
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Wayneh73:
This obviously died a death then, shame as it was a good idea.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] peopleschamp:
YES! Separated forums would be easier to read
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] kingjack:
Hi guys.......

need urgent help......

recently my i went to goa and my touch pro got wet on a beach, as it was in the pocket.....

it hardly came in contact with water for 2-3 seconds.....

it was automatically switched off......i dried d phone n tried switching on.......nothin happened.......

searched on net........did hair dryer trick and subsequently put it for 30 hrs in rice and woaaooooo it switched on.....

bt my happiness was short lived as i realized touch screen was nt responding to any touches !!!!......all hardware bottons r working properly.......

i removed screen protector also and did soft resets as well.......bt no success....

i also went to align screen using short cut (vol up n centre button), but still no responses to touch .........

so ne suggestions...............afraid to do hard reset, as phone wil be stuck on align screen..........or shud i still hard reset using welcome.not......

P.S. - i m frm india and here touch pro r nt covered thru ne insurance or warranty.....so repair (expensive) s d only way out
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Bruce Inman:
Unfortunately, the only way to be sure its not a hardware failure would be to hard reset.

You may want to flash back to your stock ROM as well.

remember you can always flash from your SD card in bootloader mode.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bedobela:
Yes. I agree.

You should definitely hard reset it. And if it still doesn't work you'll have to repair it. Anyway...I don't think you want to get stuck with a non-touchscreen touch pro because you won't be able to use it the right way...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] kingjack:
i used the welcome.not n hard reset it wth memory card inserted.......

bt still touch screen nt working.......... :eek:

Hard resetting without memory card makes it stuck on align screen......:mad:

gav it fr repairing a week ago......HTC service guy told tht navigating panel (just below d pad) is shorted n damaged......he cudn't get d part till now n s still clueless on wen can he find d part n replace it....

HTC Service s**ks in India

ne idea on wht s d approx cost of navigating panel (all connections to touch screen go thru it).....

too mad n frustrated.....wthout my TP for more than 2 weeks now :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mattyv:
Same Problem Here

Little bit of water from my gym water bottle. Device took over night to dry so that the screen started working, but the touch screen is not working. I don't know if it just needs more time to dry or what.

any update here besides replacement?

Don't want to bother with hard reset for many of the same reasons.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MagicDude4Eva:
I have a South African HTC Dream and did some research on this forum about rooting. I am more than happy with the phone's current ROM with the exception that it does not support WPA-Enterprise Wifi - in order for me to configure this, I would need to root the phone and will then be able to adjust wpa_supplicant.conf.

In all the tutorials I would have to downgrade the firmware (I have not been able to do this with any of the guides supplied - either normal RC7 downgrade, 1-click or Goldcard) in order to root the phone.

Is there any way I can root the phone without having to flash another ROM (i.e. retain the current HTC ROM and make adjustments to wpa_supplicant.conf)? Most ROMs provided are not based on HTC build, and I would loose ActiveSync. AFAIK there is no ROM available which provides ActiveSync AND HTC Mail.

My current phone info:

DREAM PVT 32B SHIP S-ON d

HBOOT-1.33.0010 (DREA20000)

CPLD-4

RADIO-3.22.20.17

Jun 2 2009,21:33:16

Firmware: 1.5

Baseband: 62.525.20.18U_3.22.20.17

Kernel: 2.6.27-9af60ed4 u70000@Android-X01

Build: 1.87.421.1 146733 CL#47295 release-keys
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AdrianK:
There are HTC based ROMs. The ROM from the Rogers Dream has exchange support, but before you flash the ROM you must flash the new radio then the SPL.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MagicDude4Eva:
Thanks - I replaced my phone with another one (FW 1.1) and was able to flash. I installed Touchdown to overcome the Exchange problems - not ideal, but best choice now.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AdrianK:
You're on 1.1?! I would strongly recommend flashing a Cyanogen ROM to get you back to 1.5.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MagicDude4Eva:
I did update to latest Cyanogen rom. One question: I rooted the phone and am on latest Cyanogen. Only (minor) issue I have is that before the Cyanogen splash-screen comes on, I still see my mobile providers boot-logo (for about 10 seconds until the splash screen comes) - is there any way to change this?

I tried fastboot flash splash1, but get an error. As part of my rooting I did not flash SPL (i.e. HardSPL) but have cm-recovery - should I update SPL and if so which one (also, what is the risk of bricking?).

If replace SPL, do I need to update the radio again or reflesh Cyanogen?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JoshHart:
As far as I know you wouldn't need to flash either again, HardSPL is known to be safe on all phones I believe. The only problems I've heard are with Haykuro's SPL. If you haven't flashed a new SPL that could be the issue, what is the error your getting when trying to change the splash?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AdrianK:
It should be safe as long as it doesn't not require a specific radio. I have never heard of the radio version you have, but that's probably because you don't have a t-mobile G1. What carrier is it on? If it's unlocked, what was the original carrier? (the ones displayed on the boot screen).

I think Josh is right that it's safe for all Dream's, so you probably could go ahead and flash it, I'm not 100% sure. Just a quick not about flash SPL's and radios on cm-recovery, you have to physically press alt-s then home+back to reboot. Don't touch the trackball. That's only for SPLs and radios.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pistol4413:
The hard spl is great, but if u want to run hero u will nees to flash haykuros spl. If u do flash haykuros spl make sure u flash the new radio image FIRST! OR U WILL BRICK! Have fun flashing away
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MagicDude4Eva:
Thanks. I applied SPL from here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=548924

And then fastboot worked: /fastboot-mac flash splash1 DOWNGRADE-SD/Boot_images/android.rgb565

Upgraded to latest Cyanogen 4.0.4 and have now an awesome phone - thanks to everyone for the help on this forum!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] david1171:
i have a question for you. did you flash another radio before doing the "danger spl"

i ask because the radio you have is also the stock radio for rogers
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MagicDude4Eva:
I had flashed ota-radio-2_22_19_26I (not sure what it was before). I did roughly document my steps on my blog if you are interested.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] david1171:
thanks. after seeing the radio you said you originally had in the first post i remembered that rogers has a radio that starts with a 3(then i searched and they are the same radio), then when i tried to download the root rogers package from that thread it kept timing out the download, so i was just curious as to radio you used. according to all the rogers root thread you have to flash the 1.33.2005 spl first before you can actually root, so basically i was trying to figure out if devices with that radio are immune to the bricking without 2.22.19.26I radio.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] xlinkx:
Does anyone know how to change manila 2.5 softkeys?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] garyjmobey:
I too would like to know

the phone lhs soft key is particularly redundant

it's also been asked

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=540151

so far all we know is hd tweak won't change it
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] rotastrain:
which softkey do you want to change

the home "phone "one?

and to what?

i can change which ever you want

cheers
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] heartofwolf:
I really would like to have a left softkey as link to all people (in manila) if you could do this I would be very grateful. Thank You!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] stargator:
The left softkey can be changed to comm manager ..
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] rotastrain:
i will give a reg key ..so u can change whatevr u want..

please post the file

1c684cd8_manila

here
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] heartofwolf:
I don't have such file:(
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] stargator:
Hi rotastrain

I am using Duttys Latest Leo R2 ROM and I am unable to find the file specified.

I did use Total commander and specified to search for hidden ,system files

still no luck..

In this ROM the right softkey is assigned for Menu funtions and need not be reassigned.

But the left softkey can be reassigned to either Camera or Comm Manager ..
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] rotastrain:
Oh i thought u were saying manila 2.1

i need the file 7c60907d_manila if ur using new manila!(2.5)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] stargator:
Sorry for the confusion .. my mistake

Since the title said 2.5 Manila I assumed this thread was for only the new manila..

here is my 7c60907d_manila
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] tom$oft:
Left SW key I think is stored in "07c67730_manila"

Unfortunately I can not modify this file with "m9editor3.3.0.1"

Showing an error during compilation :(

Even though the file only compiles and de compile then again (no change in the file), the error is there, too

Any idea how to change the file
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] garyjmobey:
I must have missed something...

I was wanting to assign it to the comm manager myself

how is it done ?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] enyaj:
I want to assign LSK to New SMS. How can it be done?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] rotastrain:
as all the earlier methods of soft key assignment have failed i have to writ MY OWN scrpipt in the manila file and make a new registry entry to make sure u get to set whatever u want as a soft key

i just woke up right now.will look into this inthe day and post in about 8-10 hours more,.

cheers
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] lunakirb:
nice ! thanks in advance :D
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] NeoXTC:
oh cool will be watching this thread. Really want to change that useless left soft key of manila 2.5 :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] enyaj:
no word on rotastrain?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] rotastrain:
sorry ..was very busy yday...will look into this today..
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] garyjmobey:
My current work around is to leave the soft key and to remap the hard key
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] hmoroni:
It is quite annoying not to be able to change the soft keys...as someone said here, the default ones are quite redundant...and, wtf, no one from HTC though it is useless?

Why do I need a phone softkey since it is easier to press the phone hard key?

The only worthy softkey is the menu one, at least for manila 2.5...cause through this key it is possible to change the quick link and related today screen stuffs...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] VincentX:
Left SoftKey changing to IContact.exe

Hello!

I want to change the left softkey to launch the iContact in Manila 2.5.

Path: \Program Files\iContact\iContact.exe

Text: iContact

I read a lot of post, but I don't find the solution... :confused:

Can anybody help me?

Thanx!

VincentX
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Spike™:
guy's i'd like to be able to make the left soft key a LOCK key.......

how would i go about this?

thanks
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] chihliouma:
Hi there, any update for this ? Thanks
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Taurus3579:
Action ?

i just flashed NRGz 2.5 and it looks great but i cant set the action screen to the left soft key.. any suggestions?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] mickael91210:
With SSMAHO you can change the application on Left Softkey and with a text editor you can change the text of the softkey in manila. I have it for french version of Manila 2.5. For french it's : 17956b33_manila
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] enyaj:
sorry for asking, but what is SSMAHO?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Oemie:
http://www.google.nl/search?q=SSMAH...&rls=org.mozilla:nl:official&client=firefox-a
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] chihliouma:
Are you sure it work by using SSMAHO ? Do you try to softreset and see if it still work ? For me, it return to default after softrest. Any idea ? Thanks.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] mickael91210:
For me it works fine, I have a link to "Manila COntacts Mnager". I realised all the steps for SSMAHO to have a launch at each "Start".
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] mickael91210:
To modify the text of Left (or right) SoftKey you have to edit this manila (both if you are not sure):

- for ROM "en-gb" : 333c03cb_manila

- for ROM "en-us" : 2c89bd29_manila

You have to search this string :

<trans-unit id="IDS_PHONE">

<source>Phone</source>

and replace "<source>Phone</source>" by "<source>WHAT YOU WANT</source>"
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] enyaj:
I tried to change "<source>Phone</source>" to "<source></source>". Now I can't press on it. Does it have to have some kind of a value? I want nothing to show on the LSK and RSK so that I will see full wallpaper.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] chihliouma:
Hi there, if I want to change the "phone" into "icontact" (which is installed already), how to assign ? I think it's NOT enough by just change WHAT YOU WANT into ICONTACT. We also need the path assignment, right ? But how ? Thanks
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] mickael91210:
You have to change "application" (icontact) with SSMAHO .
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] chihliouma:
Hi there, thanks for your great help. Now I can change the "PHONE" into "ICONTACT" in HOME tab, One more question, how to assign the "calendar" into "call history" ? thanks.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Rado_K:
Hi, for Manila Call History try this:

"\Windows\manila.exe" --switchtopage Manila://people\browserlayer\peopleCallHistory.page

For Manila Favorites People:

"\Windows\manila.exe" --switchtopage Manila://people\browserlayer\peopleFavorite.page
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] chihliouma:
Thanks for the reply. I tried to assign the call history but after assignment, and click the orginal calandar position (now is assgned to callhistory), it jumps out an error message said "cannot open 'peoplecallhistory'....", any idea ?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Rado_K:
Hi, try use Call History.lnk. Copy this file in your device or Starage Card. Rename it to Call History.lnk (delete the .txt extension. I must use .txt extension because I cannot upload .lnk file).

View attachment 230190
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] xlinkx:
SSMAHO doesn't work for me. The program loaded but the menu overlaps therefore I can't assign apps.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] vovichek62:
The text of left Soft key of Home tab may be changed for all languages like the same in old Manila's:

HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\HomeLSKText=string:[What You Want to See on Your Own Language].

For change application for this button You have to edit attached file 07c67730_manila.lua.

For the left button You should replace all content of function 2 by the string like that:

_application.Navigation:Navigate(URL("Manila://shell.page?command=" .. "\\Windows\\[I]application_name[/I]" .. "&parameters=" .. "[I]application_parameters[/I]"), false)

For the right button You should to do the same with all content of function 3

Then You should to compile this Lua script by the Luac 5.1, rename it to 07c67730_manila, put it to \Windows and Soft Reset Your device
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] chihliouma:
Hi there, the setup is successfully assigned in Manila 2.5 but it will return to the default after sftrest. How to fix it ? thanks.

PS. Sorry, it was my mistake. I forgot to STOP ALL after assignement, that's the reason why it will return to default setting after softreset. Sorry.

PS2. Wait a second, it seems sometimes it will still return to the default setting without sure under which occasion. But indeed, it seems some bugs here.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Semicuda:
Could someone explain to me which line I'd have to modify if I would like to place HTCActionScreen.exe on the left softkey of the home tab? I'm not really sure which function is meant by "function 2". Thanks!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Semicuda:
nah misposted
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] mtolhuis:
Hi There,

I used Ceregeditor to change the Left Softkey

In HKEY_Local_Machine - Software - HTC - Manila

I changed the Value data in HomeLSKtext to Comm

and the Value data in HomeLSKpath to \Windows\CommManager.lnk

reset the Manila and it works fine for me!

You can probably do the same with the right key, but I want to keep the menu option.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] MJRL:
With L26 V3 Diamond Soft Key Manager works, i only try the left soft key
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] kieboy:
I'm using Dutty's 6.5 Leo R6 but I can change my left soft key. I used HD Tweak and set it to 'New SMS'. The right soft key is the one I cannot change, I set it to camera but still showing 'Menu'
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] eddyve:
people

Would it be possible to make the "all people" button in the contatcs tab (see screen shot) connect to the new contacts manager. In the energy rom build 23081 manila 2.5 there is a link "contacts.lnk" which opens this contacts manager (see other screen shot). I would like to have this or to replace the left home softkey (or both).