yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Steadyeddie:
Hi all

Just used Nataly rom for my first attempt at flashing, everything seems to have gone well so far.

Ok so its probably a stupid question, but during the set-up its asking me if I want to enable STK service, anybody tell me what this is exactly?

Thanks

Jeff
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] laureus:
same problem here. and sometimes the home screen buttons change to the message menu.

another issue: mail are not always checked automatically

too bad i dont know anything about cooking. else i would have a look in the rom myself.

flashed to TESS4 now, maybe i will check back with nataly in the future.

still, thx alot to mondliv for your work. :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mondilv:
poutlook started with network only. (in the rom) For manual checking only.

For use it always started, add poutlook.lnk to \windows\startup;

then remove it from notifications by fdc task manager (included in the rom)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] :
Thanks for the answer. Any comment on my first issue? Would appreciate it very much.:)

(I was referring to the cover flow view when turning the diamond)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] KOL:
I flashed 4 days ago. Everything seemed to be all right (and fast!) but yesterday I noticed that My Documents folder wasn´t syncing properly (its very important for me: more than 350 word-excel docs). I´ve just hardreseted and conected to PC: WMDC says the sync is OK, but not a single document has been copied at PC-My Docs folder.

Any idea?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ljankok:
using windows 7?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] IndicaviA:
This ROM is far more faster than other I tried and is very very friendly to battery life. Before Nataly I had X-Treme2 V5 but Nataly is quick as lightning compare to X-Treme. And X-Treme drained my battery very quickly. But Nataly is very good. Thank you once more Mondilv !! :D

But can you pls fix the bug, when email or even sms are quite often shutdown to basic screen. When you are writing mail, it is sometimes not funny, cause it suddenly shutdown. All text is gone then. It occurs by writing, viewing new emails... And it often happens : You enter for i.e. inbox in email account and wait to phone goes stand by and turns off the screen, then you tap the power button to turn the screen on and when you press anything the email app immediately shutdown. Sms also.

And finally, when you are charging the phone and unplug, it sometimes shutdown the whole phone. You HAVE TO pull battery out and in to restart the phone. Strange.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] KOL:
No: using Vista.

I´ve just flashed with latest Energy rom and it syncs fast and without problems. But Nataly´s likes me more...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BumAround:
SMS/e-mail sudden 'shutdown' to basic (home?) screen

Could anybody (especially mondiv) confirm if this bug where sms/email typing suddenly goes back to basic screen still exists?

Could anybody (especially mondiv) confirm if this bug where charging the phone will shut down the phone still exists?

I just want a plain ole WWE ROM with Sense 2.1 original icons, 4-row (instead of 3) icon sets. The tutorial (from Bepe) for the kitchen is not really thorough, or I don't think I understand it quite clearly.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mondilv:
Sorry, cant repeat situation. So haven't ideas.

May in the 3.1 will better. Found small few bugs.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] vjsxda:
hi can u release new oems with 23506 or above builds pls
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mondilv:
No.

Newest is not always the best. Prefer stability/speed.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] vjsxda:
wanna test 6.5.1 new interface thats y i asked ...i use basic apps no youtube, google, opera, ie, album, audio manager .... just like the way u skin thts y i asked for new build
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] wilcovh:
I can confirm at charging of the phone freezing sometimes. so far i have not been able to find what the problem causes. i suspect processor speed setting. that was introduced when the problem started.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] lmemperador:
posible bugs - not sure

hi,

sometimes the charging problem happens to me

sometimes when connected with activesync and try to copy a lot of files (40 for example) the copy process stops and activesync connection stops (need to reset device)

sometimes when connected with mass storage (usbtopc) after that, i unplug ....and in the device, the phone don't see the sdcard anymore and don't run some applications inside main memory too (need to reset device)

:(

anyone with this issues ??
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] TeDeV:
is there any chance that 3.1 looks like the official rom?

(no themes, and custom icons)

and i thought this rom had 2.5 manilla
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] gianton:
+1000 on this!!! :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mondilv:
It' bored.:D

About new manila - think in next (next from 3.1) version.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BumAround:
This really refrains me from flashing to this otherwise glorious ROM: fast & stable. I'm not a big believer of benchmark results.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] losdrivare:
Fine, but isn't it quite pointless to post such negative comment?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Sheldon Cooper:
no1 could help me on getting chinese language on this phone? :(
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BumAround:
Not really, losdrivare. It doesn't appear to be 'negative' at all.

All I'm saying is just I've been on the edge of my seat, waiting for the next Nataly to be released by mondilv.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mossywell:
I have used all the betas and I never had the phone charging / freezing problem in Beta 1. IIRC, it started in Beta 2. Don't know if that helps?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mondilv:
Thanks, the first informative post.:)

Looks like problem in zznueDynamicClock profiles.

If you use other, then "default" profile, try to disable the suspend point.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] wilcovh:
I think something similar is mentioned in post 515.

Removed the processor speed setting zznuedynamicclock program from the device.

so far so good charged well. lets see
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] criszz:
is damn fast but damn ugly :D. any ideea why skype don't work , don't connect with all connection?? (3g,wifi, active sync). i got ''unable to connect with skype network. please check your network connection. Fring also don't connect. anything else work great (opera, ie, slick, java application, putty etc).
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mossywell:
Just glad to help. :)

Will give that a try in the RELEASE rom and let you know if that fixes it.

Cheers

m
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mondilv:
Thanks, looks like true.

Don't know about skype, but fring works strange. Sometimes.

Will see.:)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BumAround:
hi mondilv,

I'm about to flash to your "Nataly" v3.0.

Really appreciate if you would guide/point me as how to "disable the suspend point etc etc (the problematic zznueDynamicClock profiles)" so no phone freezes on charging will be encountered.

Again, thanks & waiting for your answer.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mondilv:
Settings->System->Processor

Edit Plrofiles.

Change profiles Nataly, PowerSave, Reader: disable "to suspend" point.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BumAround:
It beats me, I went to Settings, then System, but nowhere I could find Processor. Another thing is, there's bug in the text messaging (SMS) especially in the Sent folder, right after I restored 500+ SMS and just sent out one (some empty sent entries, like 10 of them).

Overall ROM is clean and nice and fast, but somehow a bit unstable (my opinion). In the meantime I'd be waiting for Nataly v4.1.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] dim4x4:
Couple of qns:

In Settings > System > Phone Information

Tabs Phone Identity and About don’t show up when pressed. Is it intended?

Why Tasks are in Settings > System?

Great ROM in general! Cheers! :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kdusek:
Hi, I have problem with file explorer. I closed it in windows folder and now when i want to open file explorer its loading and still nothing happend. I tryed to wait allmost hour and nothing happend. Iam really screwed without File explorer. Is there any chance to fix this without reinstaling ROM? please answer thanks.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mondilv:
Thanks for careful.

Done. Wait for 3.1

Did you sort by extensions?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kdusek:
RE:

I didnt sort anythink. I just wanted to move some icons in start menu. Now when i want to open File explorer its stucked. Can I reinstall just File Explorer or somethink like that?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mondilv:
Make this by regedit:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\File Explorer]

"LocalPath"="\"

"LastLocation"=dword:00000000
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kdusek:
You are the KING thank you VERY much.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mossywell:
I had to install nueDynamicClock 1.3 from _Install. What are the recommended settings? Is it Power Savings on bettery profile, and Max Performance on external power?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mossywell:
The results I get after a hard reset, disable radio and run spb 1.6:

383

20

425

3635

180

2071

120

769

I ran them twice and got the same results. Are you doing something else to get faster results?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mondilv:
Devices (nand-flash) has different speed. A little, but...

So VERY important to make tests at the same device. (as pietrucci did).
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Arie_Nu:
Internet tab speed

Hi Mondilv,

The cab for the lock for fine, thanx!

But the only thing that I can see so far the the 'bad' performance on the internet tab. Can this be adjusted.

I mean just selecting the tab is slower that every other rom I tried.

Can I also adjust and remove RSS Hub, FaceBook and the Internet Links?

Greetz
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mondilv:
Sure, 27c65cbd_manila
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] birrakas:
Help me please!!!urgent!!!

Hi all,

I have installed NATALY on my device but when the PDA restarted after the installation, the device not work, I have the black screen with the following information in the screen:

TOUCH DIAMOND 2

r 3.45.25.21

g 61.27t. 25.23U

D 3.0. NATALY

Can someone help me?

I have done a hard reset but the device not work yet.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] IndicaviA:
try to reflash once again
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Arie_Nu:
I adjusted it and its faster now, thanx!

(now problem with opera 10 starting from manila gives localhost error, still searching to fix this. From start menu it works fine)

All works great now on Nataly 3.0!!!

have a good weekend.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Arie_Nu:
Youtube

Small other thing, why did you remove youtube app?

I already found the HTC Youtube app on the net which working great.

Other small tip :-) your using CleanRam (good app) but why not add the config tool so you can update to newer version if you like?

greetz again...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mondilv:
You made mistake, when edit manila's file.

Not see the reason: IE & Opera works fine.:)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Arie_Nu:
No

No with the default install of opera I got this message, when I start from start menu its ok, not from manila.

I adjusted the file and removed the over link, so the tab starts up faster (and truly it does, not opera)

You can google the issue of opera its a common issue...

Greetz
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mondilv:
Manila looks for \windows\OperaL.exe

Not for \Program Files

You need to try rebuid with opera as package.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mondilv:
3.1

Uploaded.

Kitchen - soon
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] lmemperador:
thanks, i will try it. nataly was always in my mind :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] drax0r:
Im flashing it now. ;) great
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] lmemperador:
hi mondilv, i want to ask you about the benchmark data of nataly 3.1.

there is a new thread of benchmarking and i want to ask you about add this data to the new thread ( the thread is named --> Some benchmarking?).

could i add this data ??

i will benchmark it on my own device.

if you don't want ....... tell me, it's ok.

since pietrucci is gone......... there is no benchmark cup

i have advised in that thread about the devices ..... nand-flash, they are different and ....

but i think the benchmark could be useful (in general)

thanks
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
Mirror for ROM and Kitchen: BeeGee's Topaz File Mirror
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mondilv:
Up to you.

But the best way, if somebody prolong pietrucci's tests. At the one device, by the same way.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] lmemperador:
thanks mondilv.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] IndicaviA:
Nataly 3.1

Flashed Nataly 3.1 : Thanks Mondilv, excellent work ! No problems so far. Bugs from 3.1 are gone for me. No sms/email shutdown, no charging freezes. Maybe litlle bit more battery drain but it can be due to my experimenting, so will report later.

Only one question: When you have for example an appointment and it is shown on today screen, there is such strange "clock" background behind it. Is there a way to get rid of it or use another one (cause there are white letters on that white "picture") ? Thank you.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mondilv:
New radio (.57)?

Didn't understand. Could you show the screenshot?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] belt001:
(very sorry for my bad English :p)

Thank you for your great rom and kitchen. it's smooth and fast.

i try to use your kitchen since 3.0 and 3.1 now.

i found 2 problems that

1) cannot sign in msn (window live messenger), it's always show

"There's a connectivity problem. Make sure............" ,

but i can use Opera or IE for internet.

2) cannot compress image size when i want to send MMS that size is over limit.

please advise me, how to ...?

best regards
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mondilv:
???:eek:

It's absent in the rom. Or you use Fring?

Haven't ideas: don't use mms. Package from original Topaz rom.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] belt001:
i try to use your kitchen, so i copy all files (such as Office, window live etc...) in SYS of "OUT Folder" push into SYS in "KITCHEN Folder.

and then i found this problem:confused:

thank you.:)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] IndicaviA:
I am using .17 radio. And to my "strange background" - I found that it is a character of LockScreenAppLauncher. Is there any different version of it ? Cause everything is ok, except as I said before, if you have locked your device and when you have an appointment displayed there, it displays annoying white "dontknowwhatisit" background right behind.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] lcd4linux:
Have a look at this post and copy the attached file into windows folder :)

lcd4linux
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] IndicaviA:
Yeah, thats it !Thank you very much !! ;) . Much better.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] losdrivare:
Back to Nataly after trying out a couple of Sense 2.5 ROMs. Last Nataly I had was 3.0 beta 1 so it's been a while. Really like the "new" icons, very clean look and easily differentiated from each other. Nice to have the programs tab back as well.

It feels like coming home, there really is a huge speed difference compared to the Sense 2.5 ROMs I tried. Even though those I tried had really good benchmark scores, they felt much much less responsive and smooth. I don't think benchmarks really show how demanding Sense 2.5 is for our poor 528 MHz CPUs. After all, it is made for a 1 GHz snapdragon. Also, though the UI is nice, it shows often that 2.5 is made for a bigger screen, it is not as finger friendly as 2.1. All in all, I must say I still prefer 2.1 and Nataly is my favorite Topaz flavor! :)

Haven't noticed any bugs yet with Nataly 3.1, though I did experience a couple of freezes while I was installing my apps. Had to soft-reset. All seems well now, though. I flashed a stock ROM before flashing Nataly and hard-reset afterwards, like usual.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mondilv:
Tnks, losdrivare.:p

Can say, that for 2.5 is not all so bad. It's possible to make it faster.

But problem is more complex, then just manila. All "environment" needs to rebuild. It's crazy work, but I'll try.:rolleyes:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] losdrivare:
My major problem with 2.5 is that it feels slow. The UI of 2.5 is generally better than 2.1, like the new home screen and favorite contacts. The new music player is my favorite, I'm using Topaz as mp3-player in my car and the 2.1 music player is more difficult to navigate. Long story short: if 2.5 was fast, I would prefer it over 2.1. And if anyone can make 2.5 fast it's you! :)

Also, I'm having big problems with HTC messaging app. Maybe it's because of something I installed, I will investigate further. The problems appear if I tap on a message I received and go into threaded mode. I can't enter text and reply to message. I can't actually do much of anything with it except see the messages in the thread. Also, the app doesn't manage to quit properly when I press "Back" soft button, it sort of half closes, hangs and doesn't let me use manila. If I run CleanRam afterwards then it disappears and manila works as usual. Is it only me?

EDIT: If I press "All messages" in messages tab and go into the SMS/MMS application then everything works fine. I haven't restored any old messages, the only ones I have are messages that I received after flash.

Oh, I also received MMS without any problems. Might be good to know as you don't use it yourself. :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mondilv:
Q: Could you help to MMS? I don't use it, so can't to test it.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ayl:
Tried every ROM here and back every time to Test1. I really don't like these round icons and this is the only reason not to stay with Betas and Releases ROMs (it is not a complaint, I know well that shefs share their roms with us and they don't work hard to satisfy everyone here). The second one is the RAM usage - if I tap all tabs only without starting any programs I have 55-56 % of RAM. After I start Opera or WMP - 65-70 %. And RAM is not going down after sleep or non-usage periods. Despite all I'll try the next, too :).
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Tzeunis:
Great rom!

Can u explain what the second service is? TSK? Is that taskmanager? U know, the custom installs after a flash.

Thank you!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] pylorus:
MMS

I can confirm, that MMS receiving is working flawlessly. I use T-Mobile Czech, and also roaming in Germany (T-Mobile DE, EPlus). I have the same Photoresizing error like Losdrivare has. If you need Mondilv to run some Tests od I can somehow help you... just let me know.:rolleyes:

Btw. SUPERB ROM Mondilv! THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK! I'm looking forward for the Manila 2.5 version.:D I tried nearly all available roms here and I'll stick with the Nataly 3.1 for 2 reasons:

1) Stable and damn fast

2) I can customize all I need by the kitchen

Regards

Pylorus

PS. Does anyone know how is called the taskmanager used by the Cheetah 0.2 rom? I really like it ... thx a lot.:confused:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] losdrivare:
Sure.

It seems I can receive MMS, but not send them. Error msg: "Unable to send your message(s). Message will remain in drafts folder..." Also, if I take a picture with camera and select to send from photo app (eg. press the mail envelope in icon menu) then I can't compress the image to get suitable size for mms from there.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] lula6894:
Same for me.

Regards
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] xxdopodxx:
I have some problums with the HTC Message, it can`t work on my Topaz?

Is it a bug?

Is there a hotfix?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mondilv:
If you mean picture compression at mms package - yes, it's the bug. Solution found.

See the post #4
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mondilv:
fixes

bugfix added for sms thread.

Thanks to losdrivare for pointing.:)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] losdrivare:
Thanks for quick fix! It works, no more bug in threaded-sms view! :)

Also great that we don't have to reflash to fix it!

EDIT: As bonus, "name check" works automatically now!

EDIT2: MMS still doesn't work. Can't compress image, can't send MMS. :(

I did it like this:

1. Unzip and copy all files from post #4 to Internal Storage

2. Disable extendir (run disable_ext.reg + reboot)

3. Run fix_sms_thread.cab (makes reboot after install)

4. Enable extendir (run enable_ext.reg file + reboot)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mondilv:
You don't need it. When extendir enabled, compress is impossible.:)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] losdrivare:
Aha, ok.

Hm, difficult choice. Extendir and speed or no extendir and mms... :confused: :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mondilv:
Not for me: I don't use mms.:D

If serious, hope next, 2.0, version will be without this bug.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Chongie:
Hi,

I flashed my phone with your rom.

But after a reboot TF3D would not start up and at some point my phone did not respond to the hardware buttons..

So I went back to TESS 2.1..

But goed effort.

Chongie
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] todd69:
Thanks for this, runs like a dream on my topaz, not one issue to report and I'll be sticking with this one for a while.

Appreciate the work thats gone into this.

Todd
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
Manila Start Menu

Anyway to get back the Manila Start Menu? I don't like the tab with the programs, I prefer the Manila Start Menu.

I tried the usual registry entries, but it does not work?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] gursoft41:
device lock not working...with spb mobile shell 3.0..
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ayl:
So far the best ROM here. I don't like only the clock. Please, post here a link for the stock clock, if it is possible.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mondilv:
You can use clock from every model: Diam, Raphael, BS. Need to change few *_manila files. Don't remember exactly - need to find.:rolleyes:

Just catch any other clock & look inside the cab.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] :
next release?

mondilv

Hello from 4pda :)

I'm going to flash YoUr ROM, but when we could expect next release?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mondilv:
Work, work....:)

Hope, during the week. Still the "test" status.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ayl:
Thank you. Didn't have troubles to find exactly what I need in Diamond section. Now I love my phone finaly. The "test" ROM is almost perfect, so you can stop cooking here and take a month holiday :).
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] FleeceZoega:
Very god and stable rom. Thank You
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mondilv:
:D

Not think so.

What to do to new ideas?:rolleyes:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] oalla:
Bug!

Hi mondilv,

I just installed this test rom. It's very fast as always.

I found a bug!! : On the home screen the month (3 chars) is not in english...

I'll post an other message if I find some other bugs...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mondilv:
It's not the bug - just russian locale. You can change it.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] neowy:
Stock clock!!

I agree that I prefer the stock clock.

Please? ;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] madman_cro:
when i go to photos and videos in manilla and open pitcure it takes 5 sec for it to scroll to next one, it doesnt react on finger movment.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mondilv:
Scrolling - horizontal
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Shiva_Shaan_5:
installing now...