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[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] BlueHawk:
Moving dalvik-cache to SD probably shouldn't be too much of a performance hit except for the first load of the application into RAM (starting the application). I don't think the system ever needs to refer back to the ODEX file once the program is loaded. Note - I have a Class 6 SD card so I haven't noticed anything particularly slow in starting an application that isn't already in RAM.

The trade-off for me is that with dalvik-cache on the SD I've used 29MB of 165MB internal ROM. With dalvik-cache in ROM, I used something like 75MB of 165MB (40 programs). Either way, you've probably still got lots of room to install applications.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] BlueHawk:
It's probably not normal. You can check the internals - either by SUFBS terminal or via USB cable and Android tools adb. You are looking for:

ls -al /data

There should be links from /data/app to /system/sd/app and from /data/app-private to /system/sd/app-private where /system/sd is your sd mount point. You can check if that is mounted.

df

.

This should show that mmcblk0p2 is mounted on /system/sd.

If either of these aren't the case, you aren't using the SD card for apps2sd.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Phil_UK:
I switched back to 2.8.

See no benefit (pardon my ignorance if there is any) in losing 20-30MB internal space without any noticeable speed increase.

Have a class 6 SD and 2.8 is like lightning anyhow. :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] craig0r:
no Telus APN

Hey all. Just got my Telus HTC Hero yesterday, loaded up the custom ROM today, and I have no data. Yes, I should've written down my APN settings before rooting the phone, but I'm an idiot, so I didn't.

If someone could post the Telus APN settings for me, or a link to the Telus ROM so that I can extract the APN settings myself, that'd be rad. Or if you have some other solution. I'm all ears.

EDIT: Fixed! Set "APN" to sp.telus.com and you're good to go. Hopefully this can make it into the APN list in the next build.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Denil Wong:
I'm having the same problem too. it keeps on restarting on the HTC logo. now, I can't upgrade to any ROMS at all. The worst part is, I've only backed-up my SD card on the 2.3. Now I'm stuck with 2.3. Would love to go back to at least 2.8. Any solutions?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] trice1921:
I've installed 2.9 but have a problem. My phone now hangs on the HTC startup logo. I've noticed people saying the new rom takes up more space. I have all my apps on the main memory and not sd card and im wondering if i didn't have enough memory for 2.9.

Any one else getting stuck at the HTC logo?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Phil_UK:
When I first put it on took ages to boot from HTC logo...if you have not already leave it for 5+ mins then it may start.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] shazna2002:
cannot use HTC_CIME in applications:( e.g. HTCMessaging, Notes
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] trice1921:
I left it for around 15 and got nothing. I think it might be because i only have 20mb of space left beofre installation.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Phil_UK:
Yeah sounds likely. I lost 20MB + with 2.9. Very happy with 2.8.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] seanyowl:
Version 2.8 and other builds...

For those of you who want to revert back to 2.8 and i have noticed there are a few, and a few of you are requesting the 2.8 version... so here it is.

http://rapidshare.com/files/303774847/2.8-update-hero-modacocustomrom-core-signed.zip

For those that wish i do have all the other versions as well and if requested will upload them... just PM me
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] xenkato:
Very kind of you many many thnks
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] tisungho:
I don't know why after I upgraded this rom, ebuddy app is missing in market. It doesn't appear when I search it. Can anyone confirm this?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Lord_Phoenix:
Hello guys, updated to 2.9 couple of days ago and it worked fine, but I've tried to change settings in swapper yesterday and phone started loop-restarting. today I've tried another "root" application and found out that I don't have root user app anymore and all applications are freezing or restarting phone when root permissions are required. Could you confirm that you have su app in 2.9? :-( And any ideas how come it's not in my rom?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] fleming222:
Swapper is not compatible with 2.9. It is no longer needed. Uninstall it and the restart loop will stop.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Lord_Phoenix:
Yes, I did that but still most question is about root-required applications. I've just formatted the phone will see.

P.S. Why it's not required again? :-[
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] jiao322528:
waiting for CHINESE VER~~~
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] spacecat:
these roms are a bit like Microsoft Windows new OS's every other one is good!

Im on 2.8 hopefully 3.0 will be another cracker

all credit to paul though super work ,,cant wait until android 2.0 gets a hero release
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Paulroberts:
can this ROM connect to adhoc wifi networks (unlike the stock hero)?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] djmace:
Still awaiting my new card before attempting this. Just a few questions though.

When installing apps to sd card if a wipe hasn't been carried out 1st will it just be the new apps installed there or does it move previous installed apps.

If a wipe is carried out, then does that mean that all settings and previous installed apps have to be installed again manually?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] AndiTails:
Just the newest apps, and yes, if you wipe, you start from fresh.

It's not that bad though - you can speed up the re-installation by using AppManager (no space) from the Market - this backs up your installed apps to your SD card. Not your settings, just the install-files, but helps for quickly putting all your apps back into Android from a-fresh.

My Hero, from stock to MoDaCo 1.1 fully funtional took a couple of hours - but it was my first time. I then did the same with my g/f's Hero, and she was backed-up, partitioned, flashed, re-installed all in 30 minutes.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] djmace:
Great, thanx for the tip with AppManager, will take a look at that now.

What about carrier specific settings such as mms and internet, do these need to be added again manually?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] keyra74:
wrong, it moved all my apps to sd without wipe
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] cdmackay:
thanks; did that include paid/protected apps, too?

and did you lose your app settings, or were they preserved?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] keyra74:
nothing lost and paid apps moved too
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] deeren:
how can u verify where the applications were installed? i created ext3 partition on the sdcard and everything but i just want to verify if evetyhting working fine.

With a file explorer i cannot see applications on my sdcard.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] cdmackay:
thanks keyra74
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] keyra74:
try adb pull /system/sd/app apponpc

if it backup apps on computer they're on sd :)

and check your free space on phone

had 83mb before and now 137 with more apps
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] hager420:
Just flashed this using the unlockr.com tutorial which was successful for the ROM and Radio update and i was just wondering if i have lost any benefits doing it that way instead of the guide posted by MoDaCo. Cheers
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] railsoria:
im update my hero with this rom but now, dont connect with android market. any solution?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] oblika:
You dont see them there because there are on a different partition than /sdcard
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] lsim001:
You can get connectbot from the market. That supports soft keyboard.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] macshade:
Excelent work

When i first tried i got stuck on HTC logo, reseted all setting's and it booted OK.

I was diyng for such an update, my phone is much faster now.

Thank you and keep up the good work.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] janjan:
Any good news modaco?...thanks
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] belfastbob:
I have sucessfully partioned my 16Gb card and rooted my Hero using the step by step guide which I would like to thank Dayzee for, without this I would never have even tried to do anything to my phone. I am now installing a few more apps but am not sure if these are being installed on the sd card, I installed an app called Recordit but noticed that my phone memory droped from 157mb to 155mb, this is a paid for app so im not sure if that makes any difference. Do I need to install something that installs my apps to the sd card or should it do this automatically. Thanks again for all the work you are doing. :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] AndiTails:
That has nothing to do with the recovery mode console.

You control the phone via a console from your PC.

You open the command prompt, then use the developer tools to send commands and files to the phone.

It's all in daizee's guide.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] justbabu:
I tried again by uninstalling paid apps first, then installing Modaco's update. This time everything works and I see paid apps in the market. The market recognises the previously paid-for apps and are available for download again without a further charge.

Paul @ MoDaCo: Thank you!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] janjan:
ha ha sam here. but not sure if the applications are being installed on the sd card, or on internal memory. Any way to check it? thanks .
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] B1ny:
This is my 4th time I have tried to upgrade from 2.8 to 2.9 and at everyone of them everything is ok except that the gps don't release after use. There are no way I believe I am the only one with this bug. I have gone all the way from v2.1 or so without any problems until now.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] soulehmoo:
There are things missing, ebuddy and twidroid pro to name a couple. I think the source is too close to the edge same happened with drizzy's.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] mach2005:
I got the problem too.

It seems that programs wich use GPS in the background, are affected by this bug.

2.8 and earlier versions never had this problem.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] flywithme:
I have been using 2.9 for a few days now,

i have experienced the GPS bug as well.

Hope to see the chinese input version soon =)

or just skip to v3.0 directly?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] B1ny:
Thanks for confirming the GPS bug guys. It seems to work ok now and then though.....
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] cdmackay:
Mine took around 25mins, and I was really worried, but I just left it alone, and it eventually completed (I assume successfully; saw no errors).

I have almost 200 apps installed; not sure if that is related. I'm not using a2sd though, so hadn't expected it to be relevant...
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] cdmackay:
I can see both ebuddy and twidroid pro, in the UK Market, with MCR 2.9
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Nemo0815:
Just found a new bug with 2.9 (which wasn't there before with any MCR Rom). After sending a SMS, i get a "send failed" send report - no matter what i try.

Rebooting the phone fixes this problem however.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] craig0r:
North American dialing issues?

Anyone else in North America (GSM model) have this issue? I can dial 10-digit numbers fine (aka 905-555-1234) but I can not do 11-digit dialing (aka 1-905-555-1234.) However, if I add a "+" to the beginning (aka +1-905-555-1234) it works just fine. This is only an issue because the Call History shows numbers as 1-905-555-1234.

I'm hoping that since the Hero has been a European phone up until this point, it's just something small that's been overlooked. I can't find an automatic prepend function to fix the problem myself. I've also got Telus looking into it, but maybe the next MCR update could do something about this?

.

.

Yes, the more apps you have installed, the longer it will take. Part of the first-boot procedure is to odex all the applications (I'm not sure the specifics of this, but it does some junk to make the apps run smoothly on your phone or something.)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Nemo0815:
Anybody got a valid download link for MCR 2.8? The one the page before does only work for premium members...:confused:
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] shaji007:
aaah 2.9 was supposed to be faster but its slower for some reason :(

and ps my hotmail stops syncing after a bit any reason why?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] BlueHawk:
The applications that are distributed have code that is not optimized for your phone processor. All the different Android phones have different processors or variations of processor families but the way Android applications are built allow them to be run on all the different phones (by using intermediate code that all Android phones understand). So on an update or new install of an application or the install of a new ROM, Android rebuilds the ODEX files (optimized DEX files) in dalvik-cache - this is an optimized version of the application, specific to the phone processor hardware. It means the phone can run the application faster (and more efficiently) because the code has been tweaked to take advantage of the phone specific processor. However, this optimization takes time, and on a new ROM, it has to build all installed apps (including the ones built into the ROM - not just your personally installed apps). If you have a lot of apps, or you have a number of large apps, it will take some time to rebuild the dalvik-cache.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Danmalone72:
Great work Paul!

Hey dude been running rom for about three days now on the irish meteor HTC hero its running perfectly ! Wavesecure is a sweet addition i have nothing but compliments for this whole rom not a hint of a problem . Have you heard anything about flash 10 paul ? :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] danielferguson:
Hey guys, I'm having a little problem with the latest ROM. I just end up getting an endless cycle of HERO -> HTC boot up screens. I've followed instructions which have all worked in the past but this time around I'm having some trouble! Cheers for any help
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Danmalone72:
Try wiping?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Motleymoo:
Ever since I updated to this version of MoDaCo (2.9), whenever I get an SMS message and open it up, the notification in the top right corner doesn't clear until I manually clear notifications. Is anyone else experiencing this? Or does anyone have a fix?

Thanks guys.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Lord_Phoenix:
Try to pull out a battery for couple of minutes first and then try to re-image. Worked for me on several previous firmwares.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Motleymoo:
What do you mean Re-Image?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] MindGame:
Have you tried looking here?

http://www.thei.tguy.co.uk/hero/
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] MindGame:
Re-image = flash it again
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Lord_Phoenix:
exactly, thank you
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] buzzzer:
HTC Hero with CyanogenMode V1.4 + JF

ROM Version: 2.73.405.5

Rooted

Tried to install the MoDaCo 2.9. Install was successful but after reboot, the phone is now stuck at the Boot Logo with HTC and Hero showing up alternatively. Kept the phone on for 30 minutes but still the same. Tried to remove the battery and power it on again. Still the same. Tried re-flash also - no change!!!

CAN ANYONE HELP!!????
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] wowschik:
did you wipe and then flash?

try nandroid backup, start again with your backup-rom, and then try again, wipe, flash, boot
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Lord_Phoenix:
Just rolled back to 2.8 and with all respect it works much better than 2.9 :-( And super users permission is there.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] wowschik:
i have 2.9 and it works great, i never had 2.8 on my hero.

2.9 is my first custom rom. and all works fine :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Lord_Phoenix:
So you have nothing to compare with and you do not know performance of 2.8 and of cause it's much better than a default one.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] buzzzer:
Did not wipe - will try it from home where i have my contacts backed up. Thanks for your suggestion.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] jiao322528:
Chn ver cames?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] BlueHawk:
Also try booting without the SD card in case that is borked or otherwise causing grief (may need a reformat of the SD card).
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] BlueHawk:
One thing I have noticed with the new ROM - the battery life seems to be insane. I'm down only two bars after 21 hours (no GPS, no Bluetooth) - I've only used it lightly, with weather, application updates and a few phone calls. But still, after nearly a day, I'm usually just over half a charge - or at least with 2.8 I was. Also, the battery indicator in the notification bar seems better configured - with it remaining green until you get down to about 3 battery bars. Before, it used to go that tan color at about 4 battery bars. Anyway, some nice tweaks in this ROM I think.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] splinker:
Nnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooo

Oh man I went to use "wipe data/factory reset" and the stupid trackball moved the menu down to nandroid backup as I clicked it. Now it's backed up over my backup with one that's not working :(
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] cdmackay:
thanks much...
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] BlueHawk:
I'm pretty sure it doesn't back up over an existing backup (I may be wrong because I haven't checked recently). I think it creates a new back up with some identifications to show a later date. Just check your SD card. I think the nandroid restore function is for "restore latest". So if you delete the newer one, you should be able to restore your latest working backup.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] cdmackay:
yup, that's right.

It's in a dir "nandroid" at the root of your SD card. There's then a subdir which contains the unique code for your phone - serial number perhaps? - and then individual subdirs per nandroid backup, each dir named with the date/time of the backup.

Each backup dir itself then contains IMG files and an md5 checksum file:

boot.img cache.img data.img misc.img nandroid.md5 recovery.img system.img
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] ratson:
Hi, please help me, i am stucked.

i have amon ra 1.2.3 recovery, and tried to update to modaco 2.9 but after the update was done rebooted and the rom didn't load, i had the "HTC" and "HERO" animations, but loading was not finished after 40 minutes. nandroid restore helped me out with the original rom (2.73). what shall i do?

...i see this is the same case as the user had 10 posts ago. what is the solution? is it normal if i have to wait 40 minutes for the first start?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Nemo0815:
More bugs (MCR 2.9):

1) After enabling and disableing Bluetooth, i cannot listen to any music, there's just no sound. Plugging in the wired headset works however, but without it there's no sound out of the phone's speaker.

Pressing the vol up/down hardware buttons just displays a "bluetooth speaker level..." message although bluetooth is actually turned off.

2) Yesterday a friend of mine tried to call me several times on my Hero. However the Hero (MCR 2.9) did not ring at all, nor was there any absent call message - just nothing that hinted a missed call to me. Also something that's never happended to me before.

As always a reboot fixes this issue(s).
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] zemerick:
Madaco rom

I've flashed and now waiting on the device to boot. It's stuck at the 'htc' screen for about umm 40-60 minutes now. Is this normal? Lucky I have a backup I was just curious if I should keep waiting or restore my nandroid backup.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] ratson:
for me it worked after i restored from nandroid, update, wipe, remove sd, boot... after 8-10 minutes modoco 2.9 loaded up, i am now setting it up.

anyways it just seems to be a little bit slower than original fw. is it normal (i mean cache will speed it up by time) or there are real issues with 2.9 (i expected blasing speeds...)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Pillock:
Reboot with Power and Home held to go into Custom Recovery Menu, and choose 'wipe' - this will delete all your data on the phone!

I had same issue trying to go straight from stock 2.73 to MCR2.9, it kept looping Hero and HTC but never booting. A wipe fixed it.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] B1ny:
Decided to just try to stay on 2.9 instead of going back to 2.8, to see if there are some improvements, and just shut down gps manually each time it had been used. But after 12-24 hours running it started to release all by itself, and have been ok all since, even straight after a reboot. Strange.....
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] splinker:
Oh sweet! It's ok because I got 2.9 working anyway. Wow the battery life is so much better and the interface is so much snappier... thanks MoDaCo!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Nemo0815:
I just switched back from 2.9 to 2.8 and the phone feels much snappier and responsive immediately. Everything runs very smooth now again compared to 2.9 which was quite laggy overall.

But most important, everything works again without any bugs so far :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] FormelLMS:
Is it really so?

I've read many Times that many (?) People think that MoDaCo 2.9 not so good is as the 2.8 was.

Is it still so?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] kwiksand:
I don't see what everyone else is talking about (who thinks 2.8 is better than 2.9), but 2.9 hasn't changed since it was released (obviously) so I'm guessing the issue is still the same... For some people anyway
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] nickweb:
Quick Question,

Im using 2.9 and have had a couple of issues, nothing major, just small annoyances. First off, I get a couple of force-closes every now and then, I think it may have to do with not running this "fix-permission" script I've read about. I've done a search, but cant find a version thats purely for the hero, or even instructions for running the Dream version.. :S

Second off, the Sense UI crashes everynow and then aswell. I think this may have something to do with the above.

The built in wi-fi tether works peachy, but when hitting the icon to turn it off I get a "Your phone is in an unknown state" message. It still works, but it looks like it just dosent know what do do :S

And lastly, I've started suffering from a nasty bug where every now and then(and its more then - happened 3 times so far), the battery dies. I get a beep at 15%, then 3 mins later its 10% (all apps been killed from the background, including messaging). I think I read on engadget or gizmodo that this may be an issue with the HTC upgrade - can anyone confirm?

And off topic - MY lil sis jus got herself a T-Mobile Pulse, and I was playing around with it. Apart from being slow, it does have a bluetooth option to xfer files, with the release of the HTC kernal, does anyone have any ideas on when OBEX push could be implemented?

Cheers!

Nick

Forgot to mention - IF any of the issues crop up again, I shall logcat it if I can, but it took me ages to get adb set up on my ubuntu 9.10 lappy :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] B1ny:
I went back down to 2.8 again, for me the 2.9 is the worst since I started with MoDaCo on v2.1
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] fabioff:
Do I have to do a wipe to downgrade from 2.9 to 2.8?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] B1ny:
No you don't, if you don't use the backup its just to apply the zip file the same way as when you upgraded.