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[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Valentin Novikov:
does anyone knows where to find old school htc today for vga screen?

found couple htc today, but icons are too smal at vga screen.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] wilfmoralee:
This is the one I use, works fine both portrait and landscape.

Upload didn't work, here you :

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5P18BXUV
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] matrix77:
I am useing SPB and I like all programs to be finger friendly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSod3qtVRjU
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] BenF1:
Agreed. Everything is so much easier with it. You dont even have to use the start menu if you configure it properly.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] l3it3r:
SPB mobile shell is well worth the $30
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] THUDUK:
Well have used them all....here is my thoughts on each.

TF3D - The original and still the fastest, prefer the weather on this to TF3D2 as you get a larger animation view, but the whole thing is slightly limited compared to the mighty TF3D2, verdict 8/10

TF3D2 - This is now my favourite thanks to yozgatg v2.1 on his rom, seems to run almost as fast as TF3D1 and has that fantastic calendar which is just so usable, every tab has more functionality than before, verdict 9.5/10 WINNER

Titanium - This has a simple outlook to the world of UI, with some brilliant support on this forum this has been made a lot more usable with some better feedback support with plugins like JML today, but still just doesn't have the business functionality for me, verdict 6/10

Point UI - Well this could have been the winner if it wasn't for TF3d2.1, I even bought the pro version, running Pointsense suite made by the brilliant Blueocean, just everything on TF3d2.1 is every so slightly better, the calendar is far better, the beauty of Pointui is that I have installed onto my Internal storage so can re-flash roms and simple add a short cut to my windows folder each time, so when ever I want to go Pointui I can with all my settings in place no need to reinstall, verdict 8.5/10

SPB Mobile Shell - Has all the right functions, even has some nice eye candy now, but for some reason I just have never been able to get on with SPB Mobile shell, I find the interface just a little messy, confusing sometimes, but can be customised quite nicely. Verdict 7/10
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] chris1486:
SPB Mobile Shell 3.5
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] thedicemaster:
my choice isn't on the list.

androkkid

a nice android-interface clone.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] JonnyZaggi:
PointUI

I like PointUI most.

With PointSense 2 - Theme (Android like HTC-Hero) and some apps its simply perfect, although it's a bit slow.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] teejayenator:
TF3D2 is the best.......i just loooooooooooove the calendar tab as well as the slick sweet interface.......long live TF3D2 :P
[Touch HD General] Riceburner:
I have done (and will continue to do) some searching, but I can't find the answer to this particular query:

I can find 2 places where the version number of Touchflo is stated, and they're different.

In the "HTC Touchflo Interface" - ie the main finger-usable swiping interface, if I go to the SETTINGS tab, and look down to "About" - I have TouchFLO 3D 1.3.35350.1_1630.38

BUT

In the "Windows Mobile" interface - if I go to "Settings" > "System" > "TouchFLO" > "About" - I have "Version 3.0 (Build 32567).

So we have 1 confusion there.

If a developer has made an app for "Manila v 2- 2.5" (for example) - which of the two numbers in my system do I refer to??

As I said, I have searched for this but have been unable to find a diffinitive answer. Are these two version numbers that I have for two different programs? (one supporting the other maybe??)

Can someone please explain this? It would be very useful to know what these version numbers refer to properly before getting interested in an app that someone has developed.

If it helps - my Touch HD was from Orange UK and I haven't done anything "major" to it apart from a few UI alterations (No_Curtains, MaxTFDTheme, tsowens_taskbar) and some minor registry edits (via the AdvancedConfig AEButton+, HDTweak add-ons) (and a fair bit of software. ;) )
[Touch HD General] afr33s:
TouchFLO numbering

If you're using a stock ROM the 1.3 number you see is the Manila. Cooked ROMs have the recently released revamp of Manilla which is 2.0 or 2.1 (and even the unreleased 2.5).

The other number for TouchFLO I believe is to do with the kinetic scrolling capabilities making the interface finger friendly rather than stylus/scrollbar.

Someone with more/better knowledge may be able to tell you more (or correct me!)
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
Well first off latest version of manila available on cooked roms is only manila V2.5, though I believe V2.6 has just been leaked but not on any roms yet

Looks like your using a stock rom with manila 1.3

If you go to settings tab and scroll down to 'About' it should state correct manila version. Mine states 2.5.19172632.0, i.e. manila 2.5

If a developer refers an app to manila V2.0, V2.1 or V2.5 you refer to info in settings tab
[Touch HD General] Riceburner:
So the settings tab in the touchflo interface is the important one?

ok, many thanks (and to afr33s ), that does clear up the issue somewhat. Is it worth making reference to this in the wiki somewhere??
[G1 General] hospadar:
Been reading lots of guides and forum posts in preparation to getting my stock G1 all did up, just wanted to clear a couple things up

I'll probably be installing the jf 1.5 firmware,

Just to be sure:

1) once I have a rooted RC29 installed, I can install hardspl, and then install the JF firmware version I want?

2) What's the difference between the jf 1.5 US rom and the jf 1.5 ADP rom, I assume the ADP is the dev phone version, but can it be/is it worth it to install it on a normal G1?

3) In the wiki it says this about rooting:

If I'm just going to be installing the JF firmware immediately, do I really need to do step 8? - what does that get you?

Thanks for the help, I suspect probably these questions have been answered before, so if you've got links to those answers, please do post.
[G1 General] AdrianK:
1- Never installed hardspl :-S Haykuro's wipes your ROM, as in, you have to boot in to recovery and reinstall your ROM, but hardspl is probably different. Hard SPL is an optional step really, I never installed it. If you're not going to use fastboot, you don't need it, and you can always install it later when you find out more about it and actually need it.

2- Yeah ADP is the dev phone version. There are hardly any themes for the US version but loads for ADP. Not really sure of the other differences, I don't think ADP has the amazon mp3 store.

3- Step 8 is what installs your custom recovery image, so when you hold down home+power it will give you the options to wipe and flash your phone. Without the recovery image, you can't install a ROM.
[G1 General] Binary100100:
1) once I have a rooted RC29 installed, I can install hardspl, and then install the JF firmware version I want?

Yes

2) What's the difference between the jf 1.5 US rom and the jf 1.5 ADP rom, I assume the ADP is the dev phone version, but can it be/is it worth it to install it on a normal G1?

ADP is the developers version and US has MyFaves. ADP takes up less system space.

3) If I'm just going to be installing the JF firmware immediately, do I really need to do step 8? - what does that get you?

You DEFINITLY want the SPL. In fact, use my signature to acquire the 1.4 recovery so you can install any zip from the sdcard, create backups with Nandroid and restore in case you mess something up later on. Without it, it's a hassle and time consuming.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] floogle:
Hi. I've just purchased my first Touch Pro phone, and i'm not liking the Vodafone GUI that comes with it and a friend that uses the Touch Pro 1 says I can get rid of the Vodafone interface for the standard TF3D interface using a program avilable on this site, which I'm not able to find. But it's something to do with putting the original HTC interface over it.

I'd appreciate it if anyone could link me a beginners guide to do this or even post one up themselves. Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] samstables:
Try using search. I know everyone says it, but there is actually an entire thread called "Vodafone UK users only" which if you just bothered to read the forum you would have found, like I did!

There are two suggested ways to overcome the Vodafone-ification of the otherwise lovely TP2, and comments from users about them
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] floogle:
Well I tried searching, but since what I'm not really sure what im searching for I didn't get very far, I was using terms orientated around TF3D keywords. I've found the thread you've mentioned, but that's not exactly a beginners explination.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] nextelbuddy:
I am ready to start rooting and flashing my Mytouch today however i am a bit sketchy with proceeding forward as i have a few concerns about what ill get after everything is done.

i loved that when i first got my Mytouch that when i turnd it on Google on the Mytouch synced my GMAIL accounts and CONTACTS with my Mytouch as soon as i signed in do any other ROMS offer this?

thats basically it and that i hope that WiFi and Blue Tooth will work ok as well but when i read peoples ROM threads i can see where they say what works and what doesnt but i never see anyone mention the Google and GMAIL sync in their ROMS.

thanks for any help.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] mer6:
Any of the roms will do that, that's part of the Google Android phone experience :P
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] nextelbuddy:
I would just like a 32B rom for my Mytouch that will do everything my stock Mytouch did plus allow me to tether and change themes with out having to use OPEN HOME and have similar battery life to what the stock Mytouch had.

any suggestions?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] bcrook:
Cyanogen's ROM is the best, in my opinion.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=547896
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] joemax:
Does anyone know of an app that will use UK OS mapping ?

Ideally with a way to inject your current GPS position for accurate placement.

The OS do have an open map policy and there are a few iPhone apps that will access this... but cannot find any for Android so far.

ViewRanger on my 'old' Nokia N85 was very very good, but its currently not available for Android (fingers crossed though).

We do a lot of Geocaching and having access to an OS map helps with footpath placement and terrain... we hate to walk up very steep slopes if we don't have to nor over cliff edges ;)

cheers
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] puckoon:
Thought i'd give this a bump as I would be interested in this also.

Imagine the 1:2500 1901 os maps on the thing too.You could overlay historical maps and stand at the door of your grandparents demolished house! Kewl!!

(I am such a geek)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] joemax:
Cool indeed :)

There are a few web based (for data) apps on the iPhone so I imagine its not tooo hard to build one, Multimap now have an OS layer so could be used to inject GPS location and pull up the correct map.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] phel21:
Andnav2 gives a choice of several map sources (diffent OS renderers, Google etc). Maps licensed with an AUP that permit caching can even be stored on the SD. TrekBuddy AtlasCreator can be used to create tilepacks for chosen areas.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] joemax:
Interesting app, but no Ordinance Survey support I'm afraid.

I also found RMaps which uses web based mapping from a variety of sources. Have commented on the Market that he look at the open source side of the Ordinance Survey for web based mapping apps...
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] phel21:
Sorry that was me jumping the gun reading "OS" as OpenStreet ;)

Anyhow, why not contact the developers of atlas creatorif you've got information about good free map-sources with an AUP that allows apps to store them locally.

edit: just noticed OS maps are far from free. Terms seem similar to many other national mapping agencies. I.e. only companies with deep pockets can afford the proper access to raw data required to make them useful.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] joemax:
Web based solutions can use the OpenSpace data <http://openspace.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/openspace/>

One would assume that an app could be built to look into this data ??
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] David Horn:
I'm building one at the moment that uses exactly this principle.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] joemax:
David... excellent :)

If you need a beta tester - let me know. OS mapping with GPS position would be very very cool.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] furrypotato:
Very cool.

The guy that does RMaps is also wanting to look into this. I emailed him and he mentioned it's on his list.

I'd happily pay for an app that gave access to OS maps....
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] joemax:
I too would pay for an app that supported the GPS and compass in the Hero...

Kinda cool if it were like ViewRanger :):)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] David Horn:
Sneak Peak - OS Map Alpha 1

Well, I spent some time today getting to grips with Android development (trust me, C# for Win Mob is easier), and I've knocked together a working version of a GPS-linked Ordnance Survey app.

Right now all it does is show your position on an OS Map, and update it if you stray more than 30m from that location. It's more proof-of-concept than anything else. The biggest issue is that it's a resource hog, especially the Javascript, though I think that's cached. I'd like to have it installed locally, but the maps are tied to a domain name. ;-(

What are the things that you'd like to see in it? Compass support is coming soon!

Edit: Actually, it does seem to be caching fairly well, it's gone up to 3MB now.

Edit 2: Small update to use the whole window to shop the map, and to move the location. :-)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] joemax:
YOU ARE A GOD !!

I never thought just asking a the question would lead to what I am seeing above. If thats where you live - nice area... and you may want to change the pic as it could be showing your home :eek:

Well... when you say caching, do you mean it caches the map tiles and then reuses them if you load up the app in the same location ? ie it does not re fetch the data ?

Features... well you asked ;)

1. Compass (on its way you say)

2. Bookmarking - to allow easy return to an area you've saved.

3. POI's

4. Panning with the finger not just buttons (like Maps does)

5. Ability to load GPX's for geocaching - for location not necessarily for navigating to as GeoBeagle does this very well when combined with Radar.

6. Google Maps terrain overlay and satellite view overlay (with selectable opacity maybe)

7. Route tracing / breadcrumb laying for re-tracing your steps should you get lost in a forest, moor etc.

hmmm I seem to be suggesting all those things that ViewRanger has... that is a great app but buying map tiles for usually single use is expensive.

I would happily pay for an app though that does what you have so far.

Again... very happy to beta test ;)

Cheers
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] cdmackay:
that's marvellous David, thanks.

It looks great as is, but my one extra request would be to (optionally, perhaps) remove the cursor and zoom buttons, and be able to control it with swipe (to move) and pinch/spread to zoom.

thanks again
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] furrypotato:
Looks great so far !

I looked at OS OPenSource and noticed that the api key you get is tied to one domain so wondered how you've got round this, if at all yet.

As for requests. Any way to tie in google/wikipedia searches to display their locations on this map. Handy for finding pubs/historical places on the map.

Keep up the good work.

Dylan
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] markya23:
Wow - all I can say is "I WANT"!

Very nice looking - even better when you get compass sorted!
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] woobit:
Whats the deal with Ordnance Survey anyways?
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] OllyUK:
I've been waiting for an OS based map app since I got my Hero. This looks very promising. :) (and I too would be willing to pay)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] joemax:
They are the best maps available of the UK.

Google Maps is great to a point, but only shows roads and the odd track.

OS maps show footpaths, field boundaries, historical points of interest and land marks, at some scales even the building outlines.

Take a look at how detailed they are :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] OllyUK:
They're quite possibly the higest quality maps in the world for general usability and detail.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Switchbitch:
Absolutely fantastic work, I'll definitely buy the release version.

Very keen to beta test in the meantime. If you do send out beta copies, count me in at AndroidHurts@googlemail.com

Epic!
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] hkr:
Any chance to use the software with own calibrated maps?

I have Swiss Map 1:25'000 Maps prepared for OziExplorerCE on the WinMobile HTCs but no apps to use these with Android ... I could convert the png's to whatever is needed to use them with an Android application
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] joemax:
I believe Rmaps allows you to use your own maps loaded on the SD card ?
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] hkr:
I will give Rmaps a try ... However, I assume it will be the same as with OwnMaps, creating offline maps with use of internet maps will work, but with private mapimages it's a bit more difficult ...

I'll keep you updated, as soon as I tested it ...
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] David Horn:
Update:

Added:

Compass support. The red marker is now rotated to show your current magnetic bearing.

Accuracy warnings. It was meant to show the possible error in a translucent circle, but Android browser problems put paid to that.

Improved automatic switching between network and GPS location. It now zooms the map to an appropriate level depending on the possible error.

Still to come:

User waypoints. It'll let you save your current location, and potentially load more in from a GPX file for geocaching.

Search for nearby POI (eg pubs) etc.

Position warning (eg straying into an active danger area).

Never coming (probably):

Drag to scroll and pinch to zoom. It's a limitation of JS on the Webkit browser.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] joemax:
David, again I bow to your genius :)

Any news on when we can start playing with it... please ??
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] thenewshaft:
this looks very cool. i'd buy it... when its finished ofcourse
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] joemax:
David, how is development progressing ?

Not that I am being pushy at all ;)... just this app is driving me nuts being only here on the forum and not on my Hero outside walking the Shropshire countryside.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] hairy bum:
Morning

I've been reading this thread while on hols in the lake district , and boy could I do with this app !

The only thing is it must be independent , to work if you have no phone signal . The signal here is so bad and slow it makes Google mapping a nightmare to use. ..

If you can tie it in to the phones footprints that would be cool too .

I must admit I nearly bought a garmin yesterday but the touch screen was really laggy and smaller than my hero ? SO OS MAP AP please
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] joemax:
I think this would lead to licensing issues if you were to cache map tiles for off-line viewing.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] David Horn:
Simon's absolutely right - we can't cache the tiles to allow offline use.

Unfortunately, this app requires a working data connection to function properly. It's usuable on GPRS, but on the first load it does take a couple of minutes. I found the best solution is to load the app on a WiFi / 3G connection and then go back to the homescreen. The app is suspended, but all the Javascript stays cached so subsequent restarts (even on slow data connections) aren't too bad.

I've added a setting to disable automatic position updating while on GPRS, so you'll get a map square pretty close to your current position anyway unless you're driving. This avoids the situation of the map square nearly finishing downloading, and then the software deciding that you've moved and start downloading a new, closer, square.

In the event that you end up in the middle of nowhere with no data signal, the app will calculate your current GPS position as a grid reference, so you can at least get your position on a paper map. In fact, I'll release that part separately as a freebie since I think it's pretty useful in the event of an emergency.

In the meantime, I'm hoping version 1.0 will be ready to roll in a couple of days. :-)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] joemax:
Thx David.

There are already number of apps out there the will show your OS grid reference...

I've been using one called 'Grid Reference' for example.

Looking forward very much to playing with version 1 :)

And on the no signal point... I would personally take a paper map as a non powered backup on any walk into the unknown... even dedicated GPS units with brilliant mapping (SatMap for example) can run out of juice ;)

Your app combined with GeoBeagle will be very handy for Geocachers... I will post a forum thread on the Groundspeak site when I've had a play as there are more requests now from Android owners for software top help find caches.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] furrypotato:
Can't wait !
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Mansn:
I just saw this post and wanted to encourage the app developer to keep up the god work. What you are doing looks fantastic!
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] cdmackay:
and did we say we're happy to pay for this app? I am :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] darrenmc168:
interesting

hi all

i have just moved from wm 6.5 on the touch hd and used memory map which is excellent, as i have the os maps for the whole country is there any chance of this or any other app utilizing them in the same way as memory map ?

that would be fantastic
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] joemax:
I doubt you could TBH, they would undoubtedly be tied to your software or IMEI. ViewRanger is the same, ties the map tiles to the app and handset.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] furrypotato:
I don't think they are. But they are in a propriety format so could be hard to get another app to load them.

Friday already. Fingers crossed for a weekend beta release. Pretty Please :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] joemax:
Are you sure ? What happens if you transfer the map data to another handset running Memory Map ?
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] joemax:
I'm lost...

David, help, I'm lost in the sticks somewhere in Shropshire... if only I had an OS map on my Hero ;)

How are things progressing ?

Not impatient at all...