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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Ut0p1a:
Battery issue

Just upgraded Radio to this 3.46.25.30 - HTC, and I notice that my battery is draining rapidly . How is this Radio (4.46.25.24) version hold up?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] skyler17:
Can we please get the T-mobile USA radio on here (3.45.25.14).

Also for all of you that have troubles with your GPS, it is most likely NOT caused by your radio.

9 times out of 10 the reason why your gps is not working is because of your settings.

FIRST, go to settings and enable AGPS.

Next, run QuickGPS.

Lastly, if you are running an NRGZ28 rom, open the program "HTC GPS Tool" and click '

open port

'.

ONLY after you have tried all three of these things should you blame your ROM or Radio.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] froman:
I have the same problem, but backwards, I live in Chile (southamerica) and I bought a t-mobile touch pro 2 and I can't connect to 3G, only edge :(

if I get a unbranded htc rhodium will works on my country? (gsm 1900+ umts1900)

thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ruinertt:
To answer both of your questions, the Mhz band that is used can only be controlled by hardware, not software (the radio).

A T-Mobile phone will not get 3G with AT&T service nor will it get 3G with international bands as well. The same is true for an unbranded phone from Europe or an AT&T or Verizon or Sprint version. For the *most* part, each provider's version of the phone will only work with their band (towers) in terms of 3G. Edge is more universal, but 3G is carrier specific (for the most part, but this is mainly the US that separates the carries).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] froman:
I know that, I always used the AT&T versions (tytn II, fuze, etc etc) and works great in my country, but I cant find a rhodium (touch pro 2) from AT&T, I only found one but in 1000usd :p that's why I ask about the unbranded TP2, this will work like the AT&T versión or more like t-mobile versión without 3G in my country.

PS: sorry about my english :o
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] biscuits1978:
Sooo...has anyone flashed a Topaz radio yet, as the first post suggests? I don't wanna do it unless someone else has done it successfully on their Rhodium. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] biscuits1978:
AT&T hasn't released their TP2 yet.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] froman:
that answers why I can't find one xD

but the unbranded rhodium works with 3G on AT&T?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] biscuits1978:
The unbranded Rhodium will not work on AT&T 3G either (AFAIK). The unbranded Rhodium is geared more for the non-US 3G frequency bands.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] froman:
last stupid questions :o

how can I check if some model works with 3G on my country?.

there is some date to release a at&t tp2?

thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Kangburra:
The one with Robin Williams doing the breakfast show? ;-)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Davano:
Hey can someone tell me step by step on how to install a radio on my TP2. I have it unlocked and everything. I switch roms using a memory card. I would also like to know how I can use the radio with my card. I seriously need a new radio cause this one has like 1 or 2 bars at my house and drops the network alot at random times. its annoying
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Davano:
HEELLLP!

OMG HELLPP!! I was trying to put in a new radio for my sprint TP2 with Tmobile Service. I had a radio of version 2.3 something. Anyways I decided to download a radio and I extracted the nbh file from my computer using winrar. i put the extrated nbh file in my storade card section(no folders) I renamed the 4.1943.nbh file(downloaded radio nbh file) to RHOMIMG.nbh and used the bootloader program to update my radio as I do with my roms. After it said successful finished i pressed the reset button and it turned off. I waited but nothing happened. Now I cant turn on the phone or even get it to charge. Anyone know whats wrong?? This is my first time flashing a rom. Someone. Anyone let me know how I can fix this.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] M_T_M:
What? Sprint TP2 with TMobile service? Why would you do something like that? That's a CDMA phone and TMobile is a GSM :eek:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
A CDMA TP2 can use GSM too though, so I guess that's what he was doing, using a CDMA TP2 on a GSM (T-Mobile) network.

What radio did you flash exactly, a CDMA one (from the CDMA sub-forum) or a GSM one (from this thread) ? If you have flashed a GSM radio onto a CDMA phone then I'm afraid your phone is almost certainly bricked (JTAG needed to fix it). If it was a CDMA radio, then you need to ask in the CDMA sub-forum for help.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] M_T_M:
What do you know? I did not know that :rolleyes:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Yeah, they have a SIM card slot for that. However, based on what people here have reported in the past, it looks like if you flash a GSM radio onto a CDMA phone, then it's properly bricked :eek:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] M_T_M:
Well that makes sense....some of these phones are "world phones", right? :rolleyes:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] abhinavbansal:
Radio version for India

hi guys... am using

Energy.RHODIUM.21903.Sense2.5.MaxManila.May.13

Rom with a radio version 3.44.25.27 .......

the battery life is really short... and the signals fluctuate a lot... can some1 suggest some different radio version....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] M_T_M:
I will sugest you try at least 3 of them. Install one , drive around, refresh weather and check email which every single one of them and decide for yourself ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] SilverLynx:
Energy ROM's are know to take a few days for the battery to 'settle down'. Info can be found here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4878125&postcount=5
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tarroyo:
You'd have better battery life with the higher number radio's 4 and up. Most of the 3.xx.xx.xx aren't good on battery and are very poor on signal. . .
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] faisus:
hey im using Core Cell Pro V2.1 (21907)..can anyone recommend me which RADIO to use since i am staying in DUBAI ,UAE.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Just try one of the latest radio versions and see how it goes for you. Even if someone else is in Dubai with the same ROM as you, they might find a specific radio version performs differently from you with the same version, due to different distances from cell towers, different usage patterns of the phone, etc, etc.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Flapjack:
I'm running the 4.49.25.91 radio on the T-Mobile network in Colorado Springs. When 3H is enabled, I'm noticing a constant flipping back and forth between 3G and H. This flip-flopping causes data not to work (eg: web pages stop loading and give a network error).

I can't tell if this is a local tower issue, or a radio issue. I originally thought it was a radio issue, but the same thing happens with the .77 radio. The only resolution (so far) has been to stick with E for data.

Can someone advise? I'm wondering if I should just disable HSDPA, but can't remember how...

**EDIT**

Just found "Settings > Connections > Advanced Network > Enable/Disable HSDPA". I will try that and see what happens. Still, I'd like to figure out what the problem is. If it's a tower thing, I can just wait until the network matures. If it's a phone thing, I'd appreciate someone chiming in on a better radio for T-Mobile in my area.

Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tarroyo:
I'd say thats a tmobile and a rom issue. On the stock 6.1 and 6.5 roms I never experienced a constant flipping back from 3g to HSDPA. With every cooked rom I've used I've seen the connections goes back and forth. . .Then again with stock roms the showing of hsdpa icons is turned off.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
I'd say that "a constant flipping back and forth" is a different phenomenon than "goes back and forth". But I guess it depends on what you mean by constantly: Every few seconds? Every few minutes? Couple times an hour?

On my ROM, on T-Mobile USA (for the past several months, ever since T-Mo started changing/upgrading their system) when I have a 3G connection and the phone is actively transferring data (like, when it's checking weather or e-mail or downloading a web page) the 3G icon changes to H. It changes back to the 3G icon as soon as the data-transfer/check is done. Is it happening "constantly"? On my phone it happens when it needs to check/transfer data, and I wouldn't call it constantly. And -- on my phone -- far from making the data not work, that's when it is working -- transferring (or at least checking for new) data.

And on the ROM I'm using, Enable HSDPA/HSUPA is set by default, and I leave it that way.

If the icon is changing between 3G and H, like, every few seconds, then I'd say that something is wrong...though I'm no expert, just based on my own observations of my phone. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Flapjack:
It's pretty constant, and it doesn't matter what part of town I'm in. I can probably count to 10 seconds max, though it seems to stay on 3G longer than H. If I try to load a webpage in Opera, I'll get the "Error!" message. Data will not work until I either force it to E or turn the phone radio off/on (both essentially reset the data connection).

I can't say that this always happens, though... just most of the times. There are times when I'm able to use 3G without loss of data. I'm not really sure if the "flip-flopping" is going on, since Opera goes full screen. I always notice it when the page dies, however.

Because of this, I usually just keep it on E now. I'll test for a few days with HSDPA disabled and see how it goes.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Sounds pretty odd to me. I would guess (though of course I don't know for sure) it's more likely to be an issue with the cell towers in your area. But I think you're doing the right thing, i.e. disabling HSDPA for now. If that fixes it, you could call T-mobile and ask them about the problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] faisus:
thnxx alot !!!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Flapjack:
I have the feeling they either a) won't know what the heck I'm talking about, or b) say HSDPA isn't supported.

I'm pretty sure it's disabled in all the T-Mobile ROMs...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tarroyo:
Every few minutes.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] CosmicBlue2000:
What are these files in first post? What are they for, what do they do?

Official ROMs for flashing?

Do I need one of these files?

I have no idea, if this could be useful to me and I don't find any discription or explaination about it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
They are radios. It's the firmware for your phone that controls the "radio" functions, i.e. the communication via GSM/3G to the phone masts, also things like the GPS too (not sure if wireless 802.11 is included in that too).

People sometimes find that a more up-to-date radio on their phone helps signal strength, battery life, speed of GPS lock etc. But what is good for one person might not be good for another, since there are so many variables (how far you are from the phone masts, how you use your phone etc).

It's very easy to experiment with new radios though, because unlike a new ROM, you don't need to backup/restore anything, since you don't lose any data. You will need HardSPL to flash a new radio though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] CosmicBlue2000:
Oh, so it's my english, i didn't understand.

I though "Radio" is where two people talk to another directly other long distance.

Police uses radio. Or TV without a screen is radio.

Had no connection so far between radio and software.

Thanks a lot.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tumdace:
Anyone know the best radio for in Canada, specifically Southern Ontario?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pumpiron579:
New AT&T Radio 4.49.25.95

http://www.4shared.com/account/file/UEOunLyo/ATT_Radio_Rhodium_4492595.html
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Wow, new radio, nice one ! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Try it yet?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] SilverLynx:
Downloading Now...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] SL:
JUst downloaded and flashed. Dont see any difference at this time.

Was using 91 previously
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
Updated first post. Thanks for the new radio. Downloading and flashing as we speak ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BASSMANBOB:
Whoa!!!!!

Was using the 4.49.25.77(telstra) radio and was seeing speeds on mobilespeedtest.com of 400Kbps for the 1mb test.

Tried the same test with the .95 radio in the same exact spot i was when i tried the earlier test and saw a 10kb increase...but that could mean anything...

I did notice something while using the .77 radio though...using the new msm7k overclocking tool and overclocking my Tilt 2 to 787mhz from the stock 528mhz i saw a 50kb increase in data for a result of 450Kbps on the 1mb test...coincidence? I think not!

And while using the new .95 radio i almost crapped my pants!!!! with the 787mhz overclock i reached a speed of 471Kbps!!! Whoooo!!!(this was tried moments after i did the first .95 test, and after i applied the overclocking!!!)

here is the link to the overclocking app if you haven't seen it already!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=725290
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] raz1337:
Does the information in the parenthesis make a difference in terms of compatibility? They say like HTC, T-Mobile, AT&T, Telstra....could I use any of them on T-Mobile?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Yes, any of the radio-roms on the first post will work on T-Mobile and any GSM phone/carrier.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Only a minor issue, but someone seems to have made a mistake packaging this new radio up, and the filename of the .nbh file is 4.48.25.95, instead of 4.49.25.95. It's only a filename issue though, the radio version does identify itself correctly as 4.49.25.95.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
You are correct. Got another PM about another version. My guess is they are only different because of different providers...

EDIT:

Added 4.49.25.94 to the first post thanks to Pumpiron579 again.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] SilverLynx:
After 1 day of use (my comparison from version .77, my personal favorite):

I seem to be getting 1 bar more in reception. Data connection and speeds seem to be the same with .77. GPS lock took a little longer than .77, and seem to get 1-2 less satellites. Call quality seemed fine. Battery drain seemed a little more increased, but this could be due to my intensive testing.

To me it's a toss up between .95 and .77. I'm going to have a hard time deciding which to use. If I could get the extra bar reception from .95 and everything else from .77, that would be my dream radio :)

I'll give it a week and report back.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pumpiron579:
Just tested .94 radio and seems a bit better than 95. signal was very strong.GPS lock was quick. Just my first impression with it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Well, I might as well try it. I've been using the .77 radio for months, my favorite ROM chef, agent_47, has been incommunicado on his TP2 ROM thread for weeks, at least it's something to do. :p

UPDATE:

OK, so I flashed 4.49.25.94.

So far, it doesn't seem much/any different than 4.49.25.77.

With .77 I usually get only 1 bar of 3G inside my house, so EDGE usually dominates there. .94 is the same in that respect -- 1 bar of 3G. It does seem to pick up GPS satellites as well as .77, which is great.

Oh well...it was somthin to do...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmd512:
WIFI seems quite a bit quicker on .95 than .77... no more laggy time-out type delays. Anyone else experience this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] PUTALE:
i flashed teh tilt 2 rom with the 4.49.25.95 and I feel that the reception is significantly worse. Now I only get like 1 bars and occassinally 2 bars.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] doublecheese:
I have two Touch Pro 2's

One of them has 4.49.25.77 and the other one is 4.49.25.91

In my office right where I sit , I can not get any 3G signals anymore , I'm sure I was receiving 3G at least 1 bar about 2-3 months ago.

If the signals near office did not worse than what they were , I'm pretty sure these two radios are not the best for me.

BTW, everywhere I go, I check my 2 phones and everytime they get the same signal bars both on .77 and .91 , I think they are almost ideantical.

This new radio is for USA and AT&T , do you guys think it should work fine in Europe ?

LET ME TRY IT ASAP AND KEEP YOU UPDATED !!!!!.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Up until yesterday, I was running .91 and received 3G fine. I am in Europe, and just upgraded to .95 yesterday, and again it's working fine for me so far. I don't think it's really that the radio is "for" AT&T and the USA, just that it was released there first.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] doublecheese:
Ok Here are my initial findings

Touch Pro 2 on the left is : 4.49.25.95

Touch Pro 2 on the right is : 4.49.25.91

In my office :

They are both the same,,,, no 3G !! only full power Edge !!!

When I go next to the window :

They both have 3G same signal strength

Now on the way from the place with windows to my office I walked around a little and you can see clearly .91 radio hangs on to 3G better than the .95

Eventually .91 lets go off the 3G and goes into Edge mode !!!

So for the time being .91 is the keeper.

But since I have two Rhodiums, I will also try the radio that was before .77 , because I remember perfectly well receiving 3G in my office about 3-4 months ago !!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Do you mean .95 for the one on the left ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] doublecheese:
ooops sorry, I corrected it :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vybzkartel:
4.49.25.95 works best for me, see my sig(7mb file download). Faster GPS lock and two 3G bars in house.

Test 1 :

Test 2:

Test 3:

Last Test:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] doublecheese:
You what ??

None of these values are constant !! You can not come to a conclusion if you have such different readings...

Or you did something which I don't understand , please clarify what you meant ?

These tests are made with which raido ? Did you also make the same test with older radios ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vybzkartel:
- Version: 4.49.25.95 (AT&T)

- each test was done on a different server (Pensacola, Atlanta and El Paso)

- on the . 77 radio my originating server (location/tower) was in New York (ill reflash and post), the .95 is in Miami therefore .77 was pulling under 1mb and not 3G+.

Mobile speedtest only (7mb):

Test 1 -

Test 2 -

Test 3 -
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
How was the signal-strength difference, if any, between the two radios?

Data-download speed and signal strength aren't necessarily related, are they? If you only have one bar, or something like that, your data speed will be slower, but otherwise...

Seems like, if you want to test speed differences between .77 and .95 the best way is to do a test -- using one speedtest.net server -- with .77 and then do a test -- same speedtest.net server -- with .95 and compare those results -- both tests while you're in the same physical location.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] raz1337:
i tried a custom radio but it made my data connection slow. tmobile stock radio didn't work. it broke my location. i started trying the latest ones and 4.49.25.95 worked. i'm on tmobile in raleigh, nc.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vybzkartel:
I stand corrected there is not much improvement over .77 depending on location .77 pulls data slighter harder, GPS lock is seems faster on .95 though:confused:

Test 1 -

Test 2 -

Test 3 -

Test 4 -
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nyuhsuk:
Reception in the DC Metro Area

I was wondering if anyone has done extensive data speed testing in the DC metro area with the RHODIUM radios available...

I have been on 57, 77, 88, and 91 but found that .57 provides the most consistent H connection throughout the beltway region. However, two things that I notice on .57:

1) The 3G drops out often when I'm on a voice call. Drops down to GPRS rendering me data-less until I hang up.

2) The max I could grab from speed tests (PocketSpeedTest) was about 1.5Mbps. I live in the Gaithersburg area and work down in Chantilly but have not seen higher bandwidth to my phone in that route between the two locations. Even during trips to Philadelphia, I am not able to break about 1~1.5Mbps.

Has anyone in these areas been able to capture higher speeds with their TP2 on any of these radios?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gelt_0:
Pues yo he ocupado la .91 funcionaba bastante bien en promedio 4 barras, pero como actualizo las rom de Energy conforme van saliendo ultimamente no tengo mas de 2 barras en mi casa y 3 o 4 en la calle, la ultima version que tengo es la del 30 de julio con el radio .95 de at&t y aunque no pasa de 1 barra tampoco baja, hasta ahora no se ha desconectado, la calidad de sonido en la llamada es muy buena y lo mas importante es que ya viene la licitacion 21 para los 1700Mhz asi que ya podremos ocupar el 3g del tp2 en mexico :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] heygrl:
Let me be the first to tell you that the TP2 doesn't tether very quickly..

Secondly I noticed the heavy H to G transitioning on the stock T-Mobile USA radio too.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] talon4x4:
Mobilespeed test....results are browser dependent?!?

I just upgraded to the latest radio, from 4.48.25.20 (just got the phone and it shipped with this).

Anyways, I was testing out MobileSpeedTest and I was getting very different numbers depending on which browser I used and it was very consistent. My phone is flashed with the latest Energy ROM (Dinik Glass) so I'm using whatever version IE and Opera come with that. With Opera I'm seeing numbers between 350-400 on the 1mb file (10 tests). With IE I'm getting numbers between 900-1600 on the 1mb file (10 tests).

Anyone else experience this??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] doublecheese:
I still dont understand how you guys can compare the speed of your carrier's 3G speed with the radio you are using on your TP2 ?

I think it makes no sense.

3G Speed depends on your carrier's ability and your location.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
I'm no expert, but surely if you've got a worse signal then you're going to have more retries and hence slower performance ?

I do agree that it's a very hard thing to test though, e.g. you can probably repeat the same download a few times and get different results.