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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] efrant:
I have a feeling it's because most people haven't security unlocked their devices and, hence, cannot flash Topaz radios...

Edit: I could've sworn that there were some re-signed Topaz radios posted in early on in this thread. Maybe another reason people haven't commented on Topaz radios, is that there is no link to any in this thread.

I personally don't base whether or not I use a radio on feedback in this forum, as there are too many variables to account for. Someone may say that radio XXX sucks, but if he/she is in a different location, or uses his device differently, or was experiencing different weather on a particular day, or ..., while I may try it, and it may work great for me. For example, I'm using the .17 radio from AT&T. For me personally (using my carrier, in my location, based on my usage), I find it works the best. Would I recommend it to others, no. Would I recommend others try it, absolutely.

Edit: If you look at the Raphael radio thread, you'll see comments on all three radios (Raphael, Diamond, Blackstone).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] efrant:
HTC ROM Tool for re-signing radios from other devices

In case anyone wants to try using Topaz radios you can use the HTC ROM Tool in this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=443146 to resign the Topaz radios in this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=547276
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Seems like if anyone had a good or bad experience with a non-TP2 radio on their TP2 then they would have posted their experience here, on this thread, since this is the only radio-thread on the TP2 boards. And it would be off-topic to post about it on the boards of any other device.

Maybe other-device radios have been tried on the TP2 but tried by people who don't post. So there's room for someone to be a pioneer and potential hero! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deathgod1989:
whats the most battery saving radio in you opinion guys? sorry i dont have the time to try all radios >.<
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Sorry but it's not as simple as that ! Your battery life will be related to the strength of your signal, which depends on your distance to the cell masts, radio version, and more factors besides. So what's good for several other people might not be so good for you.

Just try one of the latest versions and see how you get on with it ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deathgod1989:
i see thanks :) ill go try one of them and see how it does.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] EdAmsterdam:
Greetings to all

I wanted to try a few different radios to improve the signal at my home.

I hardspl allready my phone, i am looking for a new radio but I don't seem to find a newer one than the one I have on.

AT&T 4.48.25.20

Should I try and older AT&T Radio?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
You don't need to limit yourself to just those radios that have "ATT" listed after them. Any of the radios on Post #1 will work on your ATT TP2. Now, it may be that one or another may work better on your phone, but they all will work.

The carrier listing just means that ATT or T-Mobile, etc., offered that particular radio-rom officially.

As a place to start, the 4.49.25.77 and 4.49.25.91 seem to be the most popular radio-roms (for the whole GSM world, on any GSM carrier), based on postings on this thread.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] matthewpapa:
no new radios in 3 months...

should we be worried??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DaveShaw:
I guess HTC just stopped working on this phone (and others on the same chipset). It happens :).

Dave
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
Well if none of the radio's actually work on your device I would think it's a hardware issue :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shaolin95:
So Radios are a trial and error thingy not by location, for example I am in Utah with ATT Tilt 2 and Energy Rom with stock radio.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] M_T_M:
Pretty much. I switched to the 91 radio a while ago and It works ok...better than the stock radio from my phone. But I heard some other people complainting about this radio even here in my hometown :confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] EdAmsterdam:
Thanks MCbrian, I'll get started with that then....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] joseph881:
Yep, I remember the same situation happening with Kaiser, and I was thinking to myself the same as that guy. What I'm really wondering though, is what are they working on now?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Stuff for WP7-phones??? And Android...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cjm1979:
Sergio says its the best to use (.91) with is rom but i have worse battery and get data problems but we live within a few miles of each other and are on the same network.

So far ive found .17 and .57 the best for me. Just about to try .77.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Army_Spec_Ops:
whats the best radio (signal wise) that is available right now? i dont really care about battery life at the moment, as i constantly plugged in. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
There isn't one. What's best for signal for one person might not be so good for you. Try one and see.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] EdAmsterdam:
Can't install anything after updating new radio....

everything says installation unsuccesful;

Can't run any of the installed programs either

Please Help
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
When you say you can't install "anything", what do you mean exactly ? Is the phone still working at all ? Did the new radio appear to install successfully ? Did you download it from this thread ? Can you give more information please ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Kangburra:
So go back to the old radio, or try another one. You could also do a hard reset and only restore your files not the system files. You did make a backup?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] EdAmsterdam:
The phone still works and the radio did installed sucessfully; yes I doanloaded the radio from this thread. The programs that I have installed previously, like Total commander, core player, opera, skyfire...etc; don't work.

I did made a backup, but erased it when I confirmed that the radio was working properly, now I don't have any backup to go back to...

I have tried to install more than 3 different programs and I can't seem to do it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
How very odd. The radio is in a separate area from the rest of the ROM. If it's not just a coincidence, then I can only think something went wrong in the radio flashing process which has somehow messed things up :confused:

Is it only the add-on programs that don't work ? If so, is there a backup program built into the ROM that you could use ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] EdAmsterdam:
yes, the pre-installed programs still work...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Don't you have MyPhone built into your ROM ? If so, can't you use that to do a backup, then try a hard reset to see if it sorts your phone out ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] EdAmsterdam:
I am using AT&T stock rom, I've never seen anything about myphone on it
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
You know what I mean ? It's a Microsoft thing, lets you backup your contacts etc to their website, and restore them again. I would have thought AT&T would have it on there, but I'm only guessing. I really don't see how flashing a radio caused you a problem like this, but nonetheless obviously something odd has happened.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] M_T_M:
Here you go buddy :D

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...FamilyID=45cd0b4e-cb8c-460c-8f62-b27758721aa8
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
That's not going to help him if he can't install any new programs though, I was hoping it was already on his phone ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] EdAmsterdam:
Thanks, It installed ok, I am doing the backup now....Why did this cab installed but the others can't? Is it because it's a microsoft cab?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Who knows ! But at least that worked for you. Good work M_T_M :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] EdAmsterdam:
What next? Hard Reset?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Well that's what I would try, hard reset and then see if things go back to normal, i.e. you can install programs and stuff.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] EdAmsterdam:
Don't quite remember how should i do this....should I get mem card and sim card before hard reset?

After the hard reset, How do I get my stuff back from the myphone website?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shaolin95:
Before I try a Radio...I have ATT so can I only use those with ATT on the list?

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
You don't really need to take those out, no. Though if you're worried about the mem card it wouldn't help to remove it. Instructions on how to do a hard reset are at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Rhodium/Resets

After that, your phone will be back to factory settings, with all data (contacts, texts, photos etc) wiped. You will also have lost any programs you installed. So you'll have to re-install MS MyPhone, then you can restore your data through that. Then add any further programs you want to.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
No, you can try any of the Rhodium GSM radios. Where it says ATT it just means that ATT officially released that radio with one of their stock ROMs. That doesn't mean a lot though, you might find that a different radio will work even better.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] M_T_M:
If you already did the Mycrosoft my phone thingy.....feel free to remove your sd card just to be safe :)

Be aware that everything you've installed will be gone :eek:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shaolin95:
What is the most reliable way to test and compare speeds between ROMS before I start my upgrading adventure? :-)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] M_T_M:
Wrong thread buddy :)

Go to the ROM and hacking thread and search there :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shaolin95:
Sorry wrong question...

What is the most reliable way to test and compare speeds between RADIOS before I start my upgrading adventure? :-)

I already picked my favorite ROM :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] M_T_M:
The best way I've tested them is by installing it and going to one of those areas where your connection is kind of spotty and use it...also watch for battery life :)

I'm using the 91 with excellent results here in Texas (man is it hot today BTW :eek: )
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shaolin95:
I used to live in Dallas and Pasadena Texas...yeah it gets bad...now I live in Utah.

So those speed test websites are not a good way to test this..I guess I am not going to get better internet speed but better connection for calls hopefully?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] M_T_M:
They sure work...if you are idle :D

But in real life scenarios.....best way is try it the old way...making calls here and there :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] EdAmsterdam:
Phone is back to factory,

Installed my phone app and restored the contact, calendar and text messages.

Will start to install all my apps back.

Thanks

The radio was not changed, so I will still test the 4.49.25.91
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shaolin95:
I am about to try 4.49.25.91 with my ATT Tilt2.

I have Energy Rom....no problem installing this right?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Right. Just flash it and give it a try.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shaolin95:
Sorry to keep asking but I got scared with this :

Uploaded with ImageShack.us

I am confused on why it shows the ROM as FROM image version instead of the current RADIO.

I guess it is normal but better ask now .
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Don't worry, it's normal. I think it's just the way the update utility has been modified to allow the flashing of radios. It won't touch your ROM, just your radio.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shaolin95:
Sweet. I checked the instructions for updating the RADIO and it does not mention removing the SIM card as it does for ROM updating. Am I cool to leave it in then?

Promise that is my last question :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Not sure, but I don't bother removing the SIM card when I flash a radio.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] efrant:
You never have to remove your SIM or your MicroSD card... for ROMs or radios.

By the way, the the flashing procedure is the same same for a ROM, radio, and splash screen. They are all ROM updates... it's just that a "ROM" ROM only writes to a certain part of the ROM, a radio ROM only writes to a different part of the ROM, and a splash screen ROM only writes to a different part. Some "ROMs" write to more than one part...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Well, you don't *have* to. But I would highly recommend removing the SIM card for a ROM flash, and it is recommended in the standard procedure in the sticky. You might end up with the network causing an issue at an inconvenient point. I remove my SD card too for a ROM flash, since that's where my backup is stored. This is probably less necessary though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] efrant:
Have you read/seen/heard of anyone having an issue because they left the SIM in during a ROM flash?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
No, but perhaps that's because most people follow mskip's recommendation in the sticky ? Just because you haven't seen an issue, surely isn't a reason to ignore a recommendation to avoid that issue ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] efrant:
Agreed. But if there's one thing that I've noticed in these forums, is that there is a lot of fear-mongering (for lack of a better word) when it comes to flashing, which probably stems from applying knowledge from older devices to newer ones (eg., if you flash a GSM ROM onto your CDMA device you WILL BRICK it... which we obviously know is not the case with newer devices... you just have to reflash a CDMA ROM).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Yeah but that's a different case really. It's easy to remove your SIM card for flashing, and to me at least, it makes sense to do it. It's not a big job. Flashing the wrong ROM type is just user error, not checking things thoroughly enough.

Flashing a CDMA radio onto your GSM device *will* brick it though, I think (I realise the ROM doesn't have that effect).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] efrant:
Yup. But as I said, lot of mis-information on these boards...

You are correct: "better-safe-than-sorry", but...: http://www.bpic.co.uk/articles/monkeys.htm
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] M_T_M:
Hahahahahahaha...monkeys beating on each other! :eek: :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
I've never removed my SIM card for rom flashing and I've never had the slightest problem. And I've flashed my TP2 literally dozens of times.

Lucky?...maybe...but it's the same kind of "luck" that has kept me from being hit by a meteor. :p

Really, if a person was worried about complete safety they'd never even do the HardSPL in the first place.

But everyone should do it as

they

wish, of course. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] EdAmsterdam:
I did had an issue....My sim card was wiped when updating the radio.

I got the numbers back from the myphone backup.

Doing a backup of everything on the phone is the safe bet.

While the radio update when ok, I had to restore the phone to factory settings after all the installed programs stopped working after the radio update....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DeathmonkeyGTX:
Do y'all think .77 will be the last Rhodium radio?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigWopHH:
.91 is actually the newer revision--.77 was just obtained and added to the list later.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DeathmonkeyGTX:
Well crap. .77 works better than .91 here.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] turtle2472:
No problems with it. See if it works for you. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] 1milenia:
whats the best radio for tmobile tp2 gsm ...in the connecticut area
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] SilverLynx:
As was said many times in the previous posts, one radio may work very well for one person and completely suck for another. But as I am in the Norwich area in Connecticut (Although on AT&T) I would try .77 (as I think it is the best for this area, this is my opinion) then .91. You can try .17 and .57 as some still people still have good results with them.

Since flashing a new radio doesn't wipe your phone, you can try them all and find which is best for you. Your best best is to give each one a few days to find out which gives you the best combination of voice quality, data speed, connection quality, fast GPS locks, and battery life.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] si_blue:
Help With Radio

I have the Tilt 2 AT&T I live in Oregon,USA and I have the Energy Rhodium 218951 Rom on my phone with the stock Radio 4.48.25.20. My problem is alot of the time I have so so reception and am getting alot of dropped calls I know its not the AT&T service and my friends who also have the tilt 2 have the same problem..... would updating my radio this fix this and could someone recommened a radio?? I noticed the newest radio is

"Version: 4.49.25.77 (Telstra, Australia)" but would that be the correct one for me since I live in USA, Oregon?

Please help! THANKS!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
All of the GSM radios listed on Post #1 work on all GSM networks worldwide. Now, some may work better than others for you due to one reason or another, but they all work. I'm using the .77 radio in Oregon -- though on T-Mobile, but it roams on ATT (for GSM-EDGE).

Since you've already done the HardSPL it's easy to try radio-roms. If you're primarily looking for a better signal, then you could probably try several roms in a single hour! I'd start with 4.49.25.77 and 4.49.25.91.... the .17 is also popular.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] si_blue:
Thank you so much for the info!!!!!!!! I went with the .77 Radio and I now have mainly all bar full now hopefully this fixes my problem thanks again!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hasbrone:
Someone can give me your opinion...

I know that the radio controls GPS, WiFi and other connections...

What is the Best Radio for Telcel Mexico?

THANK YOU.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] freedompeace:
Is there anyone here is a Malaysian and found their Radio very stable? Juz wan to noe what type of radio u all use... I using .17 previously.

1st of all, .17 giv better battery life but a lot of drop connection including WIFI.

Then now i flashed to .77, and found that it is bit battery draining but WIFI issue solved... Any other suggestion? :D I wud greatly appreciate ur help...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] XERO_Racer:
just wanna mention that i found a good radio combo, using the 4.49.25.88 with the 4.49.25.91 RILPHONE.dll runnin Chadster's e2 ROM

found this to be a HUGE improvement on signal, since im in the Stockton/Sacramento, CA area and i barely get signal here soo i guess its a good thing idk about speed yet and battery life, will do further testing tonight on it
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] freedompeace:
Where u got the Rilphone version? Mine to provide the link? :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] XERO_Racer:
im running the e2 ROM and i cant get access to the RILPHONE sorry, it only gave me 2 options of what RILPHONE i install and i choose 4.49.25.91
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] XERO_Racer:
going to try out .17 since you said it gives better battery life

will give feedback in a little bit

for the .88 radio, i find it to be finding more reception but the battery is just like the .77 radio and also i get random drop receptions...so this radio is out
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hoatienii:
What's the best radio in Vietnam?:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] elite67:
the new 4.46.25.24 must have gotten 3-4 sec gps lock using T-Mo US indoors... this is after I rebooted my phone to make sure I wasn't just making things up.

Want to wait to see how the battery last and reboot a couple of times...

Thanks..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dre20745:
Radio Radio Radio??

So Which one of these Radio's is top choice?? I'm on the East Coast (US).. and the stock Radio in Shyttie here in the DC area...

Suggestions Please.....!!:confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] TheMan42:
Can someone please answer where I can find the rilphone.dll cab for the 4.46.25.24 HTC radio - I had flashed it without a problem a while ago, the radio that is, but I couldn't find the .dll file to install either? :confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] biscuits1978:
I have been seeing several users able to get GPS reception indoors, but I have yet to get this. I'm on a 2-story building and I'm on the 2nd floor. I am 10-15 feet away from a window.

The most I get is 1 satellite after waiting 3-5 minutes. And I'm using 4.46.25.24 and after getting an update with QuickGPS. I have even tried enabling A-GPS and I do not get any different results.

Anyone else have any other suggestions? GPS locks in at 30-60 seconds for me outside.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] lovelldr:
Have exactly the same problem as you describe... Probably not always as slow as 30 seconds to get a lock outside, but no less than 20 at most...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] epg0:
What radio should i use for Chicago, IL Tmo USA ?

not even sure what a radio is, but my other TMO phones have got much better signal than my new TP2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bdaboy338:
I've run the hardspl and running the energy rom, is there something else i gotta do to install the new radio on my phone? anyome?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rlsxda:
Just updated my US TMO TP2 to 4.46.25.24 - HTC, and it seems much better! It now works with my Jaguar BT hands free (at least a little more than before), the battery "seems" to last longer, and signal seems better. The GPS doesnt seem any faster, but that's ok for me...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ruinertt:
The radio is its own entity aside from the standard ROM from Energy (they typically do not include the radio).

What you need to do is download one of the radios in this thread and flash it like you did for your OS's ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] reocej:
Has anyone compared their gps performance with/without agps enabled on their stock Tmo radio. Without agps mine is horrible. With agps I get a lock almost instantly, even indoors. Just thought I'd throw that out there.