yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ATLDON:
Interesting......I have been using 3.45.25.21 going on 2 days and I have excellent reception, no missed calls, lightning fast GPS, and no excessive battery drain.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] TheMan42:
Just a question:

When I installed my custom radio (been using the 4.x HTC version for a few weeks now) does the rilphone.dll install itself or do I have to do it manually? I ask this because the .rar files only include the .nbh files and the RUU.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Maarten_NL:
4.46.25.24 HTC

I have regular problems accepting calls, a popup ballon notifies me that the call could not be completed.. ok.. switched to 3.45.25.21 HTC now to see if it is the ROM of radio that is the cause.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] harryc88:
what exacly is a radio??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bmhvanbenthum:
How can I security unlock my rhodium, so that I can test a topaz radio. Problem is that tmc is not yet supported on rhodium, but works on Topaz. My idea is to flash a topaz radio and then try again the Hypergps utility with navigon.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] uiqjirka:
The latest 4.46.25.24 HTC Radio is pretty good on O2 Czech Republic.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cd993:
hi, any recommendations for a radio on UK Orange? Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Ramsfan_Jim:
Or any for UK T-mobile? Flashed the ROM numerous times, but not the Radio - I'm sure I could get better reception...

Cheers,
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jerrry:
I am using HTC 4.46.25.24 radio ROM with T-Mobile and it is really good!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Ramsfan_Jim:
Question - when flashing JUST a radio, does it Hard reset the device (as when flashing a ROM), or does it leave all data etc. unaffected?

I guess I'll backup just in case...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DaveShaw:
Only if you use the Standard RUU. Use the Custom RUU by udk (see stickies) and it won't Hard Reset.

Dave
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] lovelldr:
Does anyone find that with the 4.46.25.24 radio the wireless isn't as good, or is it just my imagination?! Just that I'm sure previously I had a good signal with wireless, whereas now I'm lucky to get a signal! The router is only just above me in the house, and on laptop I get full signal! At some point I'll try to get around to flashing the previous radio to check, lol
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
4.46.25.24 - at&t

The second post reffers to: 4.46.25.24 - AT&T

The link however links to Rhodium_Radio_4.47.25.24.rar

Looks like a typo.

Wonder if this is the same ROM that's mentioned in the thread of udK's TiR v1.0 ROM. You can find the thread HERE
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] harryc88:
need some help flashing radio

i downloaded the official rhodium rom, version 4.46.25.24

and at the top it mentions a cab file called rilphone.dll? where can i find this cab file?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] biscuits1978:
I have just as good of wireless signal pickup with 4.46.25.24 as any other radio I've tried. Have you tried a different radio with different/same results?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GiantsFan91:
i dont want to unlock my phone. my carrier is tmobile. its fine with me. can i upgrade the radio without unlock?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] biscuits1978:
I believe you must at least install HardSPL.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tiemen_S:
OK! Thanks, I'll just pick one then. Now I'm only trying to find out how to get the old HTC-icons back on Energyrom, then I'm done for a while.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] martyzidek:
ok.. noob question.. all phones have a radio? are there certain ones for cdma phones? why im asking is because i was going to do task.29zip because i had mr.x rom but didnt have mms feature.. so i reinstalled us cellular stock 6.5 rom.. now im downloading few roms to try out and see which one i like.. the task.29.zip says

INSTRUCTIONS:

- download and unzip

- put you favorite RADIO in the mix

- run then task29.exe and wait for it to finish.....

- device will reboot but will neva go past the bootscreen coz there is no OS to boot

- take our batti and then flash a rom using mSD card or by taking device into bootloader and using customRUU to load ur favorite ROM

where do i find my radio? are there different ones for cdma or us cellular,. ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Yes, different ones for CDMA -- not the ones in this thead -- which is why it's called "...GSM Radio Collection...".

Look/ask in the sub-forum called "Touch Pro2 CDMA" -- up a level or two from here.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nokiadashi:
radio 4.49.25.77 and 4.49.25.91 battery drain test

ROM: Deepshining X5

Program running: Pocket Music Player playing MP3 songs in full volume with earphone on

After 30 minutes the battery drain as follows:

Radio 4.49.25.77: 4%

Radio 4.49.25.91: 5%

The conclusion: Radio 4.49.25.91 probably drains battery a little bit faster than 4.49.25.77,but the difference is insignificant. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] efrant:
What does playing music have to do with the radio?? Nothing.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nokiadashi:
it's not about playing music,i let player running just to accelerate the battery drain,I could have made a comparison in idle state,but in idle state,roms like Deepshining series will consume battery only less than 1% in 30 minutes,how could you see the difference between using two radios?

in case you dont know,the reason doing this test is that some people claim that rom battery drain has something to to with radio.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] efrant:
Battery drain does depend on the radio, just not the way you are testing for it. The radio uses battery when it transmits a signal to the cell tower, or is searching for a nearby cell tower. What you are doing is not testing that at all...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] x51:
I think a good test would be to find someone you can call that can put you on hold:

Flash .91 Radio

Fully charge

Call someone and be put on hold.

Let phone stay connected 15 mins.

Document battery drain.

Flash .77 Radio

Fully Charge

Call someone and be put on hold.

Let phone stay connected 15 mins.

Document battery drain.

Ideally you want to do each test twice.

Sure the radio may have something to do with drain... But you need to use the radio.. Sync mail, update weather, talk, browse the web... etc.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nokiadashi:
thank you all, now i agree with the analysis from efrant and x51. hopefully someone will do a test based on x51's form. but i doubt anyone is practically going to do it :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Sorry but I don't see how you can do a reliable test of radio battery drain just with a single call. There are too many factors involved. Sure, that will compare the drain for those circumstances, but there are distances to cell towers to consider, types of link (GSM/3G), all sorts of things etc. Just because one radio drains faster in one situation doesn't mean it won't drain slower in another.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] SilverLynx:
Absolutely correct. ROM is another major factor, and also installed software. Like what everyone say about ROM's, your just going to have to try it out for your self to see if you like it. Read what everyone says, but the final outcome depends on your testing it out.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] prcme:
Telus radio info...

I would like to know if anyone using this forum has access to a Telus Touch Pro 2 with dual network (1X EVDO REV A 800/1900MHz, HSPA 2100MHz, GSM/ GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz)

I have an ATT Fuze on Bell Mobility in Canada that thinks it is roaming when it is not.

Bell and Telus use the same equipment, so I am looking to extract some info from the rilphone.dll or whatever it uses to determine if it is roaming or not.

In searching through the forums I have found a number of individuals with this unique problem.

Apparently Bell/Telus use a few different network home settings, and I am not in the first one on the list.

A quote from my findings so far - "Technically, 302610 and 302860 are Bell and Telus respectively, and they both use the 302880 network."

If anyone has the ability to extract this info on how the Telus phone does this, there are a growing number of us that would like a fix for this little issue when using phones from other networks on Bell or Telus.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] x51:
.77 for 2 days

Here is my Review:

ATT, in Southern CT and NY.

Been running .77 for 2 days now.

Speed:

I ran several speed tests (maybe 10) while on .91.. They were all over the board.. Actually My speed tests always are. They ranged from 700k to 1.31m

I immediately flashed .77 and ran several (maybe 10) more speed tests. They could be better as the low end went up as did the high end.. but most tests were in between. 800k - 1.38m.

I have to say with such fluctuations.. it's hard to say it's "Faster" but It's not worse.

Battery

Running Energy Rom Sense 2.5 Mar 26th.

Battery is significantly improved.

For quite some time my phone has not made is a full day. If it does, It's below 20% battery. For the last 2 days I'm at 50% battery when I go to bed. I'm sitting at 57% right now (9 pm) Today I drove 2 hours to NYC using my GPS and 2 hours back. I talked more than average. I'm about to have a conf call for maybe another hour.. that should put it at between 45 and 50%..

Call Quality

Did not notice any change.

GPS Lock

Locked in 10 seconds just after flashing while in my house.

Could not get a lock indoors previously.

It does seem to lock faster.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aestivalisakito:
Radio Rhodium 3.43.25.13 Ripped from T-MOBILE US 1.04.531.0 Test Rom

Radio Rhodium 3.44.25.17 Ripped from T-MOBILE US 1.12.531.2 Test Rom

Both contain nbh file as well as nb. If someone could update the wiki and the first post for me would be great :-)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Have been running .77 for a while, after having been on .91. Something about .77 just didn't feel quite as good to me reception-wise, so gone back to .91 to see if I was imagining it or if it really makes a difference.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sigma20xx:
What does flashing the radio do?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
It replaces the current version of radio software -- which interacts with the hardware -- with different radio software...which has a strong effect on how well the radio works. "Radio" includes cell-connection and GPS, and "how well" includes cell-signal strength and gps-satellite-lock as well as battery use by the radio.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sigma20xx:
According to my software info, I currently have radio version 4.48.25.20. On the first page, I see version 3.45.25.14. Even though the numbers appear to be lower, (I have no idea what they mean anyway) is this an upgraded version of the radio for my Tilt 2 that will offer better performance? Does changing radios to see which one works best purely an experimental process, or is a a fact that if I upgrade, it would be better overall for my phone? I haven't had any problems with my current connection while I'm running Max Manila 2.5.2010. I have noticed that battery life is considerably lower, so if I can get better battery life through a radio change, I'm all for it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
I don't know about the radio-rom that came with your TP2/Tilt2...but most people report that the later/latest radio-roms (e.g., 4.49.25.88 or .91 or .77) are better than the older "stock" versions in most ways.

Any radio-rom on the first page of this thread will work on any GSM TP2/Tilt2, with any GSM carrier...though it seems that people report differences for the same radio depending on where they live.

Before you can flash any custom radio-rom you have to do the hard-spl thing, described here. Read carefully.

After doing that it's very quick and easy to flash and test a radio-rom.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sigma20xx:
Ok, I see now that my stock radio version is the latest one. I guess there is no need to flash it then. I wish I knew what was sucking the life out of my battery. I have 3G, data connection, wifi and bluetooth turned off and made sure that no apps were running. I took my phone off the charger at about 0900 PST and as of right now it's at 52% and it's just 2200 PST. It used to take 3 days before it would even get to 60% and now I can't even go 12 hours without it being down half way. Are these new roms supposed to use up this much power? The phone has pretty much been in standby all day and I took 2 roughly 10 min calls all day today.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Have you recently flashed a new ROM ? It's usual for battery life to go all over the place until you've used and charged the phone a new times. The ROM needs to re-learn the battery capacity etc.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sigma20xx:
Yeah, I did my first flash roughly 2 days ago.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tarroyo:
I've been using 77 for about 2, 3 weeks now and its the most stable and best radio I've used on T-Mobile with my Touch Pro2 so far! In places I would get one dot of 3G signal I get full bars and thats not just in one spot thats everywhere! Data is also faster as well thats with browsing using opera/skyfire/ or any other browser, GPS couldn't be any faster I get a lock instantly.

The call quality is excellent as well I get clear, crisp sound when on a fonecall no drops or any problem hearing at all. I've also been using the AudioPara tweak with all radios I don't know if that helps. 77 Is the best radio I've used period that includes my mda, and wing I HIGHLY SUGGEST ANYONE ON T-MOBILE FLASH THIS - I'VE BEEN LEFT IMPRESSED!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BWheezy:
Just flashed .77, data speeds are definitely improved over .17 here in downtown Indianapolis on my Tilt2 AT&T
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] assassin82492:
Radio Review

I was just wondering if anyone would want a thread that people could rate different radios. I remember from when I had a fuze they had a thread like this for the Raphael.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jdean:
Right now my TP2 IS my internet connection with tethering. I'm gathering I cannot do the Hard SPL because obviously I can't be connected at the same time as doing it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
I think that's correct...

But you might post the question in the Hard-spl thread to see if anyone can suggest a way around this dilemma... then come back and get a great new radio. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ndn715:
heres an issue i havent run into before... hoping someone might have some insight.

ive been trying to narrow down the problem, but basically .77 causes my phone to break up with every call and with 5 bars. data seems to be just fine. this happened the first time i flashed 77 so i thought it was not the best radio for my area. when calling someone or receiving a call, it sounds fine sometimes, but usually starts breaking up on their end really bad. i can always hear them just fine. it seems to help if i go stand in the middle of the street, but not always, and this is with 5 bars.

so i started flashing the older radios. 91 and 88 used to work fine for me, but when i flash those (and stock att radio) calls are dropped very often although call quality seems fine.

the strange thing is this is happening on the AT&T network in downtown Kirkland and Redmond (Seattle). i almost always have 5 bars and ive never had this problem since i flashed the 77 radio.

so... this has been the same result even after flashing multiple energyroms and even using task29, flashing the rom, and then flashing 88 or 91. the only thing i havent tried yet is flashing back to the stock att rom and going from there.

has anyone else had any problems like this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] meanvulcan:
I went from .91 to .77. Overall I am not seeing much difference. It feels like .77 drains the battery faster in one area where the reception is very poor. Also it feels like calls get dropped a bit more frequently, although that's not scientific -- I had plenty of dropped calls with .91 and previous radios, so I could just be getting more frustrated...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Die Bruine:
I've been using .77 since it came out. When in GSM mode I can leave my phone in stand-by for 3 days. When in Auto mode, mostly 3G and online with Palringo, I get 8 hours :rolleyes:. So in 3G mode, I think its safe to say .77 consumes more power than .91. Ofcourse it could be ROM related. But I still think it's the radio.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lennyz1988:
I use the .77 for a day now and I really cannot relate to what you say. I always have my phone in auto mode and I haven't found any difference in batterie usage yet. I used the .99 before.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Die Bruine:
More power consumption with .77 than with .91. while having a 3G/H connection while connected to the internet with an IM running in the background. I had a couple of weeks to test it. Unless you run the same OS and have the same provider (Voda corporate) you shouldn't be able to relate ;). Especially since I ran .91 as opposed to your .99. Since I hardly ever run in auto mode I'll be sticking with .77.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tarroyo:
Try the AudioPara cab, see if it helps

http://depositfiles.com/files/ycjqb3bwl
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rjh1:
radio question...

can I change my radio to improve my wifi service?

Rick
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stryder143:
question

I was just wondering do i need to reflash my radio rom after i flash my preferred rom?

and do i need to perform a hard reset everytime i flash my preferred rom?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] TEE82:
Answer for both questions: Nope, you don't have to.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stryder143:
thanks man, appreciate it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jdantuma:
No experience with flash Radio Rom at all. I have the latest Sense 2.5 23xxx Cookie HT by Energy and I live in Holland (Vodafone provider). Any suggestions for me?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
For me, 4.49.25.77 is noticeably better/faster for GPS-satellite lock. Other than that you might start with 4.49.25.91 (which is very popular)...and just see what works best for you as performance seems to vary with user/location/OS-rom. It's so fast/easy to flash a radio-rom that it should be no big deal to try a couple.

Flashing a radio-rom is exactly like flashing an OS-ROM -- same procedure as you used to flash the Energy rom.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jdantuma:
I've read something about the RILPHONE.DLL ... do I have to something about that ... or I just flash a Radio Rom and it all will be good?

I can get any Radio (77 or 99) Rom? They are not linked to a certain area/location or something? I have a WWE ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Ignore the rilphone.dll issue -- because there's nothing you can do about it anyway. I have tried all of the last 5 radios without doing anything about rilphone -- since I can't -- and they all work.

All of these GSM radios work in all GSM areas world-wide, from NorthAmerica to Netherlands to Nepal ;).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jdantuma:
Thanks mate, I appreciate you taking the time to assist me!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] XERO_Racer:
anyone using the .77 radio around the Southern California area with the Tilt 2? noticed a huge improvement on signal strength, idk about .91 but im gonna try it out by this friday, can anyone tell me if .91 has any differences between .77??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] 8526WM6:
SAT Lock Best with Radio .77

I'm getting SAT lock in under 10 seconds with the .77 compared to one minute with .91. Maybe a little faster internet speeds.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Running_Roti:
hey just a quick question

hey everyone

i got a CDMA/worldphone touch pro 2. it was locked to telus but i got it hard unlocked so i am able to use it with rogers (a GSM network provider).

i did hardSPL and installed the CDMA version of energyROM (the latest one 21899). i have my sim card in there with rogers, however im getting poor reception and under my phone stats it says im still under telus. when i go into the phone settings it only gives me the option to choose the CDMA network and GSM doesnt exist.

do i need to install a radio to get that working? if so should i be doing it from this forum or the CDMA radio ones?

let me know please

thanks!

PS sorry in advance if this question has been answered previously in this forum i tried looking for it but couldnt find it
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
You need to go to the CDMA sub-forum, and you will find a thread on CDMA radios there. Do NOT use a GSM radio on your phone !
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] SBNDawg:
So I'm sitting here in the middle of the US with my Energy ROM flashed AT&T Tilt 2. I can flash the .77 radio and all will be well?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Yes, it will be fine to try it out and see how it goes for you. Flashing a radio won't affect any of your ROM setup etc (i.e. you won't lose contacts, messages etc). If you don't lilke it you can easily flash another.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] SBNDawg:
Thank you very much sir... :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] buffalosolja42:
Any in the GA prefferably Atl with att having issue with radios?

I am asking this because I receive edge alot more than I should especially at my house (which is a blanket for 3g). Just wandering and which radio are (if anyone in atl is using). I know some may say flash different radios but it takes time for a battery to catch up with random flashing of radios and roms thanks in advanced.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] SBNDawg:
Nice, I flashed my Tilt 2 to .77 and GPS locks in about 5 seconds. Even here in Kentucky where they have to pipe sunlight to us.... :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] b3n2010:
does it do good on 3g? im lookin for a good radio and im on at&t.

any suggestions?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] SBNDawg:
I've noticed no peculiarities. But I'm a noob too...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rz6657:
ROM and Radio (NOOB)

I've been reading this thread and I'm trying to understand the instructions.

First, which is the best RADIO for my ATT Stock ROM? I plan to keep the stock ROM.

I have:

AT&T Tilt 2

ROM 1.59.502.3

Radio: 4.48.25.20

Second, I assume at a high level, i follow the steps below to only flash a new radio to my stock rom:

1. HardSPL

2. Flash Radio

Note: I'm confused about the license. I need it to HardSPL or to flash the Radio? Do i need it or not?

Thanks... NOOB