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[P3600 ROM Development] 1Tech:
Thanks for your rOm nAr, it's really awesome.

Great work. :)

Where can i find the bluetooth patch for 23016, please ?

Regards,

1Tech.
[P3600 ROM Development] uhr673e:
Problem 1st Boot

Hello!

I have a Problem with the 1st boot after update.:confused:

1 wait 30min bevor rest - HTC-Picture only Version text.

After 3x Software Reset is the same Problem

What can i do !!

How long ist the frist boot time?

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HTC3600

SPL 1.2 Olipro

Radio 1.56.70.11

WM6.5 German 23016 beta 9.9.9.9

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excuse my bad english
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
1st boot time is about 1 min or so

You have the symptoms of bad flash, re-flash directly from bootloader ( tricolor screen) mode
[P3600 ROM Development] uhr673e:
1st boot problem

Thanks for the Answer?

How can i start the boot-loder ? bevor the HTC will boot?:eek:
[P3600 ROM Development] 1Tech:
Hi,

here how to :

The bootloader is invoked by pressing down both the POWER button and SIDE Camera together and using the stylus at the same time to press the RESET button at the bottom.

and link : http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Trinity_BootLoader

Regards.

1Tech

ps: or search here : http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=FullTextSearch&s=Trinity_Boot+Loader
[P3600 ROM Development] uhr673e:
1st Boot Problem

Now I testet

:mad: german 9.9.9

:mad: german 9.9.6

:mad: WWE 23016 IE8 Chome

:) WWE 23016 IE8 MAN

:mad: WWE 23016 IE8 MAN Chome

:) WWE 23016 IE8 nUdE

BY :mad: stop bevor 1st boot on the first picture from HTC

waiting up to 10min and maked Hardware-Rest and waiting 10min making Soft-Reset => can not Boot

BY :) 1st Boot is OK and i can after the First comlied boot a Harware Reset !

I will install a German Rom, whats the Problem ???
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
mad: german 9.9.6 is best base for now, plus the cab I made yesterday for the good muis.

Assuming you have hardSPL 1.2

:

- After you flashed new rOm

from bootloader mode

, you let the phone restart for 5 secs or so, and then Hard Reset manually. Be sure to get the grey screen and "green" button then "Ok to boot".

- If stuck

then

, just soft reset.

-

If still stuck

, try a 2nd soft reset.

- if all this doesn't work, reflash rOm.

Normally on FRA rOm,

1st boot timings

approx :

00 s : boot

35 s : logo "Win Flag"

1'50s : configuration screen that takes you to calibration etc.

On 2nd boot (after customization settings etc) it may hang eventually, so soft reset in case.

2nd boot time is faster :D hopefully :cool:

Hope that helps. I made myself as clear as possible

brds,

nAr
[P3600 ROM Development] uhr673e:
1st boot problem

Yes i am Sure - i have HardSPL 1.2 Oplipro on the HTC3600

when i go in the Bootloader menu is it possible

I tested all version "exact" with 1st HW-Resten and 2 soft reset, the result

is the same as before

only 2 englisch version is not stucking - germans rom's stuck all

b.r. Robert
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
I'm really sorry you had problems, more than 1000 people downloaded and installed fine the rOms, FRA WWE or test DEU so I'm out of ideas for the moment

Regards,

nAr
[P3600 ROM Development] rcpamr:
Hi!

First of all thank you for this rom i love it! I was just about to buy a new phone but now..no way! Keeping my diamond for sure.

I've instaled it yesterday and i'm having this issue:

i'm using the screen lock and now when i syncronize with activesync it says my phone is locked and i must unlock it (before it would ask me the password directly, i put it and worked fine). Then it shows the keyboard to unlock but it doesnt show the 'unlock' button...i mean i put the numbers but i cant ok...i hope you can understand me...i've try to take the unlock at the settings menu but it happens the same...

Can you help me? i don't know if i'm doing something wrong...i'm trying to install some app and without active sync i think i cant...
[P3600 ROM Development] xopheak:
Hi nAr,

I just installed your ROM (nAr.23016.FRA.IE8-MAN-CHOME) and it's really a beautiful ROM, thank you for your work!! :)

But I have a question. When I hit the "Start" menu, I only see one icon: "Today". Where are the programs? And the Windows parameters?

And how to active Manilla instead of the standard Windows 6.5 interface?

Thank you very much !

Best regards,

xoph
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
Please find latest version here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=606027

The symptoms you describe are a "bad flashed" rom.

Everything should display normally.

Also, be sure to have hard spl 1.2 Olipro installed before flashing rom.

brds,

nAr
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
Can you post in english so I can understand what you say ? :)

Well "probleem met opstarten" means problem with startup ... please hard reset after flash !

1st boot is VEEERY long as it has to configure lots of things that you can't see :)

Config is auto at startup then, fo you've unzipped "Cabs" and SDConfig.txt at root of your SD

If stuck on a splash at this 2nd startup, then remove battery for 3 seconds,

put it back and start again normally.
[P3600 ROM Development] silc:
Found a new error... :( since I've updated, the wireless connexion cannot be loaded. And if look at the connexion parameters, there is no mac address :eek: any idea please?

- Silc
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
From which ROM have you updated ?

I've just tested the Wifi and it works fine on my WEP encrypted box.

However, it is true that sometimes the wifi configuration window (menu down right)

doesn't open the page where MAC is displayed etc.

It's a known bug of the Comm Manager. Insist and it will show eventually :)

Wait 20 minutes I upload new version, other goodies :)

brds,

nAr
[P3600 ROM Development] budi_ati:
That's does'nt WWE...

i just know installed...

anyway good jobs guys...
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
There is one FRA and one WWE,

just follow the links,

I corrected the WWE one

(my mistake) ;)
[P3600 ROM Development] ZakMcRofl:
This Rom sounds awesome, great to see devoted devs still pumping out WM6.5 roms for our old Trinity.

How much effort is it to make a German version of it? Did you use a kitchen?

There is no german WM6.5 rom so if you could manage to make one (I could help) you'd be the king of all german Trinity owners.

If you can't or won't do it, I'll look into making a german keyboard patch for it.

One last question: is it possible to automatically disable the memory eating GUI (Chome, Manila) when launching TomTom (or other nav soft)?
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
Thanks, I'm new to cooking but porting works and ROM work pretty nicely, so I have many things to learn for sure, but you can enjoy the ROMs nicely ;)

I can tell you : Yes, I use kitchen, and mostly try to port myself :) I could try & do a german kitchen for now, just need the language files but I mean, you'd have whole SYS in german but not all the other apps (PIM backup, etc thus add german cabs for your applications) it will be for testing for beginning :) I can remove all non german apps apart from WM core.

My friend, keyboard FingerKeyboard is included in the ROMs, I cutted out all languages apart FRA and WWE, but I can easily restore the German keybord on FingerK in the ROMs :)

You have to do it manually, but easy in manila, last tab, just one click and you're done, so only 2 clicks away from Tomtom :) for Chome, no disabled needed, Tomtom can turn with Chome, if enough memory left, I think yes it's possible :)

I also added a FRA Chome only and a FRA NUDE this morning. Check here :

http://www.planete-htc.com/index.php?mod=forum&ac=voir&ref=13&cat=109&id=21254&debut=80

So page 5, my first post

brds,

nAr
[P3600 ROM Development] robert1982:
Hi

Can you include Microsoft My Phone in your rom.
[P3600 ROM Development] budi_ati:
hi...

why i doesn't found Java in WWE version ? n why i just installed cab apllication and then after reset the apllication cannot run... n it doesn't show the apllication logo...:(:(:(

needed help...
[P3600 ROM Development] herpez:
Hi.

How can i change the volume? In other roms, i would click on the speaker icon and i would change, here i cant :S

any help please?
[P3600 ROM Development] hajali:
Rom / RAM

Hi there ...

coOl rom ... i tried the rom before the volume fix .. and reflashed ... I would love to give it another go .. i have one question... what's the ram/rom status ... and is it stable .. or does it have any leaks ????

thanks for the effort
[P3600 ROM Development] mgamma:
tried FRA from august 20

Hi Nars

very nice ROM.

I have the FRA with manilla (and put manilla on).

telecommunications work perfectly.:)

I am meeting some final setting isues (may be I am missing something as I am not familiar with windows 6.5)

1- I have set the soft button for my preferences (.."contact" on the right)

I understand that the "soft key program in the system parameter does not do any thing

then I tried the advance parameters... the device starts with my peference , but as soon as touchflow appears, it comes back to "telephone" and "photo"..wich is useless as we have hard button for that... I hav not found a lace to set it into touchflow..... is there a way to stabilize my changes?

2- I had to battle with the file tree and had to reformat my memory card. not a big surprise , my previous installation was not clean from that point of view. in the advanced pref, I asked the images to be stored into the "mes images" directory and the videos into "mes videos", I also set the recovery file for pictures to be "mes images" (and not DCIM)... however I find everything into the DCIM directory of the device if I have no storage card and in the DCIM on the storage card , when I put the storage card ...is that normal? I can live with that...but would be happy to know how I could set the directory to store my images as I wish

3- I cannot read any video.. when I am in the touchflow "photo" screen, I can see them but when I touch the screnn or ask through the menu to open, "something" starts, but I get a black screen and the only way to get out is to press the hangup button....(I tested the video on my PC, they are ok)

thank you for your help
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
Hi all,

I WILL release updated versions of the WWE and the FRA ones TONIGHT.

German friends will (can) use the WWE rOm as I put back the german keyboard in, it's not Windows defaut, but FingerKeybord, you'll have to select it with Ervius SIP selector wich can be found in the ROM.

For the Volume icon, the new notifications prohibit the use of the Volume taskbar button. I will be releasing the use of SetVolume from Marc Landis, it will be ROM built-in, just map a hardware button to use it, FRA works, will implement in WWE tonight :) I use the button under the power button, on the right side, personally :)

The RAM ROM status is described int he first post :)

It has no memory leak I think :( why would it ?

To change hardware button use the Softkey Changer not advanceconfig.

It's located under parameters - Personal - Buttons

For the pictures folder it must be "100MEDIA" in "DCIM" which is at root of storage card. To set the picures to show in manila tab slelct htc album and define your folder to "All" in order to see the SD card appear in drop down menu ... can take a while option to appear. the select "100MEDIA" in stroage card and OK, then your photos will show correctly

Then fire up the camera and set "Storage card" as default holder for your pictures : it will work flawlessly :)

I noticed I can't play my videos back anymore, working on a fix.

For MyPhone, you can install it by cab as I don't want to dictate it to all users if they don't use, it takes place in ROM :)

UPDATE TONIGHT :)
[P3600 ROM Development] ZakMcRofl:
Yeah having german keyboard would be great but I was thinking of something similar to my old german pack which also added T9 dictionary and such.

Anyways, I would love to help you making a german version. I don't mind if some apps remain english.

I extracted the German 6.5 Emulator and dumped the files. Is that enough or are there extra steps I could do to help you save time?

Extracted dump here:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R5PAFPEJ
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
Thanks for the upload, I had a look inside and couldn't find what I needed :(

I would rather need :

OEM

OEM_Lang_0407 folder

SmartDialing_0407 folder

Camera_Trinity_Lang_0407

initiateflashfiles.dat (unsure, there is one in the folder, but seems to short)

brds,

nar
[P3600 ROM Development] ZakMcRofl:
Hmm, I used the old extract-from-emulator tutorial (nbsplit -emu a.bin followed by ImgfsFromNb and ImgfsToDump).

What was your source for the french/WWE language files?

I admit this is over my head but maybe what I got is a "flat view" of all files and what you need is a "packaged view" of the same files.

Any suggestions?

EDIT: Reading up on the current tools and kitchens now. Seems like I used an outdated way.
[P3600 ROM Development] espofunk:
HI,

very nice rom!!!!

very very nice!!!

I have one question before flashing, how many keyboard was in it for sms typing?

There is italian T9?

Thanks

very good job!!!

:-))
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
I think there is default WWE keyboard, and you should find ITA version in Fingerkeyboard :)

I will add WWE version updated tonight ( java back, fix videos, etc)

So wait for flash ;)

brds,

nar
[P3600 ROM Development] mgamma:
Thanks for your rapid answer, it is very helpful and pleasant to have a dialog.

This settle hard buttons, not soft. there is as "softkey program" into the "system parameters"... but it does not do anything.

What happens is that since I have settled every thing I could, I actualay see the right soft keys after a soft reset, but it is erased and replaced (by "phone" and "camera") with the launch of touchflow.... I have been unable to play with touchflow settings. In the "manilla preferences" there is a list of program for "home" but whatever I choose or unchoose, it doesnt change anything....and I have not found any other place.... may be you would know one?

Thanks a lot! :) this is the trick I was missing :cool:

Looking forward... :)
[P3600 ROM Development] eelpout:
Hi. Nice ROM!

Question. This is my first exposure to 6.5. Am I wrong or is the IE included in this ROM completely the same as 6.1? There appears to be no finger/flick scrolling which is a bit annoying. Or am I doing something wrong? Should I be installing FTouchFlo for IE alone maybe or maybe something else?

Thanks.
[P3600 ROM Development] Roberdin:
Hey, how can I adjust the backlight settings? I can't seem to find the options to change the intensity of the backlight.
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
Easy, just go in "Start" "Utility" and then "Back Light" :)

EDIT : WWE rOm just updated (dated 2009, aug 24) ;) link on first post
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
You're perfectly right, I thought IE8 was too buggy on the Trin ... will try to integrate :)
[P3600 ROM Development] Roberdin:
I've also noticed a couple of times that if I do a soft reset, I lose all the SMS texts I've sent or received. I'll let you know if this occurs with your latest build.

Thanks! =]
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
... I've never seen anything like this !!! :(

Are you sure it's soft reset, not hard reset ?
[P3600 ROM Development] Roberdin:
Perhaps this is just my bad day. I refer to resetting it manually by depressing the switch inside the little hole with a pen.

Your latest version appears to fail a CRC checksum. I've downloaded it twice and 7-Zip gives me the same message each time: "CRC failed in 'ruu_signed.nbh'. File is broken."
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
Did you try with Winrar ? :)

Well, I'm sorry, Mediafire got some problems today, had very much difficulty to upload, and the FRA version doesn't pass, I 'll do ASAP
[P3600 ROM Development] rizal74:
where is the file? i can not find it...
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
Sorry for the mediafire mess ...

I was forced to delete the file and containing folder, because upload would never finish ... stucked at 3.22% ... :( said I needed to restart my router, which I did, but no success either !

Now, please don't try to download, am uploading right now, the WWE link should be back by 10 AM, GMT+2 and the FRA link by 10:30 GMT +2 ...

My deepest apologies,

brds,

nAr
[P3600 ROM Development] Roberdin:
Thank you for your efforts. They are appreciated.

I suspect this is a problem common to all Windows Mobile 6.5 ROMs: I notice that if my phone is locked via the Lock Screen, and I receive a notification (for example, someone sends me a text), this notification takes focus, and it is possible to go so far as to call the person without explicitly unlocking. This is a major problem for me, because I have a habit of accidentally pressing buttons and calling people in my pocket. Has anyone else noticed this behaviour?
[P3600 ROM Development] nowheretorun:
Problems!!!

Getting CRC error on the WWE-version.
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
you can always switch back to old style lock.

In Settings -> Personnal -> Lock, you can select legacy one, then it will ask to restart your WM device. Once restarted, when you lock the device, it will be goo' ol' one :)
[P3600 ROM Development] Roberdin:
Thanks for the tip. Does this mean it's a bug in this build of Windows Mobile?
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
ChECKED tHe DOWNLOAd

It IS CLeaN nOw

No More CrC errOrS fRom mEdiaFirE :) :) :)
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
Of course ...
[P3600 ROM Development] rizal74:
still can not download from mediafire, but thanks for your quick respon Nar...

Edit : now i can download it... thanks Nar for your nice Rom.
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
You're welcome :)
[P3600 ROM Development] heiden:
Next Build ?

Hi everybody.

I would like to know when we can expect a new build like 23034.:)

Just to understand: Is it possible to convert dpi 192 into dpi 96 ? Or do we have to use old dpi package ?

I think the new UI will be funny to use.

Thank's a lot for your hard work.
[P3600 ROM Development] vassilew:
ROM behaviour

hi @ll - i'm new but i have a trinity and i like it :)

i read through all wiki and be sorry for all questions!

i flashed this rom and i found this problem .. memory! when i try to run igo on top of this rom i quits or simply freezes

i like the design on top (today) but i need the igo

what shall i do?

thx, vassilew
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
... disable Manila / Titanium ... settings Personal Today 2nd tab ( touchflow & Windows default)

PP is at 3 for now, I should soon get a PP4 version online as I integrate scrolling IE8 and needs PP=4.

Thanks,

nAr
[P3600 ROM Development] vassilew:
i want to keep manila

what is pp?

thx vassilew
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
With IGO you can't + Manila :(

IGo eats much ram ... not suitable with Chome / Manila :(

But with Tomtom 7, eats only 3,2 Mo, so manila can stay :)
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
New builds are out : try to port !!! :)

That's sport isn't it.

I mostly stay with 23016 for now as all new builds are too buggy or eat too much rAm because not fully optimized. I won't spend 2 hours to port something not worth ... waiting for better releases.

I need best performance for my rOms so a Full one is very sensitive and needs something stable and not too rAm greedy to work the reliable way.

Lots of trouble converting 192 to 96. Find the good dpis or use from older builds. But they are buggy, such as phonepad, etc ...

regards

nAr
[P3600 ROM Development] tomme45i:
I agree with you but IMO 23017 is even better than 23016.

Build 23034 is working really good and have no bug, even phonepad is fixed, BUT as you said new build eat to much ram... :rolleyes:
[P3600 ROM Development] heiden:
Hi,

I know that the new effects need more RAM but it's so more usefull.

Tomme45i => Do you have port the 23034 into our trinity ? :o

Somebody has tested Extendir ? Is it not a solution to have additionnal RAM ?

Bye
[P3600 ROM Development] mgamma:
power pb (urgent)

hi nars

I installed the 25/08/09 version.

I made some time, sorry. I really love your work.

videos work fine now

But I have a big t pb now. the telephone does not wake up from stand by anymore. I have to reset it! therfore I set that when pluged, it does not go to stand by.

But I cannot receive call while moving! this is very annoying.

I am very surprised as the previous version worked without any trouble.

Did I do anything wrong? I made very few personalisation.

Is there a way to get out of this ? a parameter to set ?

do you think that I should reflash?

thanks for your help
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
Yes try to flash again.

Don't forget to hard reset after the flash.

I've never seen those kind of problems for standby ... that's really strange !!!

How old is your trinity ? Which radio and spl do you use ?

brds,

nAr
[P3600 ROM Development] mgamma:
oups

forgot the hard reset... Did it this time.

looks like working

will test again tomorrow.

my trinity is 3 years old (approx)

i do not undersatnd fully your question

I have not change anything on the phone since I bought it appart your Rom. So

I guess the radio is the initial one.... where can I see the version?

what does "slp" mean?

thanks again
[P3600 ROM Development] ZakMcRofl:
Installed the German beta, looks awesome so far. First page "setting up your phone" was not german but I guess thats just a picture anyways. Not a big deal anyways.

I'll play around tomorrow at work (2am now) and will let you know what I find.

Thanks a lot for making a german version!
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
No, the "radio" is a set of low level "drivers" coping with gps receiver, gsm, bluetooth, wifi and between WM ... Look in start <> parameters <> System <> Device info or something like that.You'll see your radio version here. To install last one (better gps reception etc) look here :

LINK

But before you should have hard spl 1.2 ... it unlocks your device and helps preventing "bad flashs", here :

LINK

Remember it's a test version. The "setting up your phone" page is indeed a picture. It's in Autorun resource I can add german text line ... But while calibrating the screen it's written in german, right ?

Got some more muis in german. Not all I would needed ... Zach, could you make a report of what is fine and what's not, in english to be mdified in german, etc ... screens, as I haven't see the rOm at all :p

Does the FK works fine ?

nAr
[P3600 ROM Development] ZakMcRofl:
Yes, calibration is German.

So far it is almost perfect! Fantastic rom.

Everywhere I looked, it is German.

I haven't installed a screenshot tool yet, any recommendations?

It got really late yesterday and now I'm at work but I should find some more time on the weekend.

Some minor flaws:

1) The storage card is listed as "Storage Card" instead of "Speicherkarte". I'm pretty sure it was the same in WM6.1. but maybe you can check if your french version localizes device names. Maybe having the EN name improves compatibility with "bad" cabs so I'd leave it.

2) FingerKeys (FK?) doesn'T work. When I select it, it falls back to the normal keyboard. The other input methods work fine.

3) Probably be related to 2): the input method selection dialog at the bottom center takes about 4-5 seconds to open. I assume that is not normal.

That's it for now. If I find more I'll let you know. Screenshots are coming this evening hopefully.

EDIT: Can Chome be disabled? It is supplied by HTC or MS? Looks ok but the aliasing in the Start "menu" looks a little off.
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
GetPDAScreen.exe in your PC, sync with ActiveSync then use PC tool :)

I'll try to see where I can find dialog ...

No it's not FingerKeys at all it's called fingerkeyboard . Use Ervius Sip Selector (if included in ROM, it is in Start Tools Sip Selector so I don't know in german). If not please try to use cab for ervius SIP selector :) it should work :) You have to restore SMS and stuff and soft reset to select FK otherwise won't load :) !

Screen please ? :) To disable chome: start- parameters- personal- today, 2nd tab elements and uncheck "Windows default" :)

Free RAM and free storage out of how much ? :)

The ROm is almost empty :) !!!

brds,

nAr