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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
I don't mean to overload the system with arbitrary actions but with useful processes such as Rosie. If compcache is holding the majority of memory that's fine but even 1,1101K is pushing the free physical memory so the bits have to be saved somewhere. That place needs to be getting used whether it's a partition or swap file.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
Compcache has 14820 kB reserved to itself.

That memory is reserved from the start for compcache, so it's not part of what you see as free physical memory (in the output of free, for example).

What this means is that (using my numbers again):

I have:

- 1424 KB free of physical memory

- compcache is using 14820 kB of memory (reserved at startup)

- compcache is using 11296 kB of it's reserved memory to store 43156 kB of paged out memory in a compressed form

- compcache still has 3524 kB of physical memory free to be used, which should be enough to store more about 14MB of memory pages.

- only when that is exausted, will swap to flash be used.

- no data is being swapped to flash
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] djrosen:
Thanks for helping me out enatefox! Unfortunately I have to confess I don't know how to do this at all. What software do you recommend for mounting the .img file to a folder? I downloaded and installed SQLite3. I just want to save the contents of the messages to my computer, I don't need to put them back onto my phone or anything. I'm using Vista Ultimate 64, by the way. Sorry for being so helpless :P
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
djrosen, you can just use ADB to get to the shell on your phone, access /data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db for messages. Then query the "sms" table for whatever you want. You can dump the results to a CSV file, then ADB pull the file off of the SD card and open in Excel.

PC:

adb -d shell

Android:

# sqlite3 /data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db
sqlite> select * from sms;
... bunch of stuff here ...
sqlite> .mode list
sqlite> .separator |
sqlite> .output /sdcard/4tehlulz.log
sqlite> select * from sms;
sqlite> .exit
# quit

Back on your PC:

adb pull /sdcard/4tehlulz.log [wherever you save stuff]

You can get more info here
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
what are you doing to get good performance out of your phone I have to say I like the looks and feel of the hero builds but the performance on my end just blows. I get errors on boot and my screen orientation is wonky and before anything is said on that i did deselect the orientation flip in settings
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] djrosen:
I haven't been able to get windows to properly install the device. I got the proper drivers for my vista amd64 system but every time it says it was unable to install.... this is driving me nuts. I should mention that I have no experience with coding or command line stuff.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
Those issues must be because of the specific build/combination you are using.

You can try changing.

I'm using something like this: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4371119&postcount=615
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
Same thing happens to me. never been able to install the drivers on vista.

One of theses days, will have to install then on a VM.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mcfarlan:
I have kinda the opposite problem. I have tried just about every combination posted and I get fantastic performance. Problem is the calls. Sometimes the phone rings by the time the caller hears a second ring. Other times I hear it ring once but by the time I pick it up they are already in voice mail. I have not found a combination that gives consistent in-calling performance. Went back to 1.5 for the time being.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
amiright?

you should be able to connect to the driver with a Linux guest in a virtual machine since the PUEL version supports USB passthrough. It's not like you were going to mount an ext2 drive in Windows easily so you might as well have an actual Linux environment to tinker with things.

That said, it's entirely possible to ADB or telnet to the phone and use it as a Linux toolbox in Windows just not as easy.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] LordPhong:
battery drainage

does anyone know how to turn off the location based services? My phone's battery dies within an hour.

Is it normal for the back of the device to be a little warm? When I'm charging, it even gets hot but i think that's because of the LED issue of the keyboard. Still, it shouldn't be hot.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
Mine only gets hot when using wifi.

The location services can be turned off in settings->location.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
Do you mean a linux system (or vm) is able to recognize the phone as a usb disk automatically? (unlike my vista crap?)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] LordPhong:
thanks for the quick reply. very much appreciate it. I hope this improves battery life. Because of this i couldn't use android.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
You can use ADB to log in from the host (Win/Mac/Lin) and then pull and push files with it. Not the most simple for most. There's a FTP server app you can download from the Market too. For simplicity, I would recommend that. While in Linux you can easily access and mount FTP shares, for Windows users that want a quick way to log in, follow this guide to mount FTP shares as a network drive like X:\. I haven't tried it but it looks legit.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] k4ever:
Some Questions

First of all I love what you have done. I just have a few questions. First, is there a good (and free) working file browser for Android? Second, I only get colors for wallpapers. There are some wallpapers in the media folder but they don't show up as options to switch to. Is there a way to fix this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ivanmmj:
How are you running this so smoothly (just saw a youtube video on this)? It's not that smooth on the NATIVE G1 with the faster processor and more RAM. What did you guys do to make it so smooth?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
A lot of people like Linda Filemanager. I prefer AndExplorer. They're both free. Wallpaper from the home screen's settings, AndExplorer or any decent file manager will let you select the wallpaper and then Settings has set-as wallpaper.

ivanmmj, the setup I'm running is here. All you do is boot.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lodger:
ace100

Did you get to the bottom of this, i have spent all day searching till i am blue in the face.

i am sure i have read this before but just can not put my finger on it.

Any help with this would be great so ace100 and myself can can it to boot..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
How's this and the following posts working out for that error then?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] k4ever:
Thanks!

enatefox: Thanks for your reply! Will give them both a try
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lodger:
thanks for the reply enatefox, i have tried this already and still get the same
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
and the ROM part? Which one are you running and what is your radio version?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lodger:
i am running shifu v15 rom which i flashed today trying to fix, and radio 1.71.09.01 which i also upgraded today from 1.70 something.

i have formatted my sandisc 8 gig in a card reader and re downloaded 1.5 hero.

not sure what else i can try really..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
If it's flashing season, try Hyperdragon IV or AthineOS and at least see if it makes a difference. Also, the SDHC card, if you have one that's not then try that too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ivanmmj:
Oh, I've got a G1 and a Herald. I was just curious. ^_^
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lodger:
after about 10 mins of backup my poor hd`s memory card, it work great.so the problem was the memory card after all. thanks for all the help..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] h0mer:
First i have to thank all of you, devs. It's kind of amazing to be finally "free" from the Window$ Mobile. Wi-Fi was the thing.. Just started using this Hero so i don't know if i have some problems with messaging/calling.. But however Wi-Fi works great, Sense (or what the heck it is..) works smoothly. Expect when sliding to page where calendar widget lies..

When you get the camera work i will completely stop using WM. But one thing is kind of annoying.. The device gets very hot when you turn wifi on and play with the browser a bit.. Or well actually it turns hot always when you use some "hevier" program (such as Music player). Is there a way to prevent the device from getting hot?

I'm using Natalic Hero 18.8. -build and currently running with Solace v3.1 -rom (love it).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] k4ever:
Media hosed

I did a clean install of Android, now I keep getting a "Android.process.media" failure. I can"t install programs from the market and I can't play music. What went wrong?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] k4ever:
Now its happening ever 30 seconds. I can't access the notification menu. I need some serious help on this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
Well, look at this: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4222572&postcount=1

...or wait for an updated image.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] k4ever:
No more crisis

I had to reinstall everything from scratch again. I also had to create an AndriodApps folder. I put a media .apk in it (last.fm) and that seemed to fix the problem. Everything is working great now. Great work!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mcfarlan:
@enatefox and pmos...Thank you for all of the advice. I changed ROM to EOS and upgraded to the eMo radio and besides Hero's smooth operations, calls are no coming through within 2 rings, which is normal. Thanks guys...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Does the incoming call delay seem to happen with wifi on and/or in sleep mode? We're trying to get wake_lock support which should fix a lot of issues and I think the lack of them is disrupting the listener for calls and SMS.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mcfarlan:
In sleep mode is the major problem. However, I have noticed that when the data connection is on (not necessarily sending or receiving) there is also some delay. If I use the modem to shut down the APN, the call delay is almost absent. But then you lose mail, weather etc.

I wish I understood better the part that the ROM and radio plays. I use the JacX system image with android 1.5 and it does not matter what radio/rom combination I use. There are no issues (except for no camera and BT). Even the LEDs work. Guess it is something specific to Hero...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pjcforpres:
I haven't had any delays with incoming calls when using the device... with it in standby not sure, I haven't missed one yet, but I usually answer the second it rings. I did notice it took a couple seconds before it would let me answer when in standby, but I didn't notice any major delay that would cause me to miss a call... I also have my incoming call set to 30 seconds before it goes to VM.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pjcforpres:
I can say I experienced the same... when I was on straight 1.5, even with WiFi, incoming calls were perfect, no delay even from standby. It was one of the first things I tested when I started using Android.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
That's what I was wondering. Hero has it's own thing seperate to ION/Cupcake. I've been trying to learn the Android environment from exactly 0% to whereever I'm at. I've got some ideas so we'll see. Either way, the wake_lock issue is probably paramount to Hero's handling of calls. While compcache and swap can get it almost to real time speed, it's not perfect. We're looking at cached data being drawn to the foreground almost instantly because it's resident in memory. By definition, a new call or SMS is not precached and therefore, running at the "normal" speed of Hero. I think this is why we experience these issues. Sure, compcache is fast for already-loaded data but a new call is new data to process. So, this isn't an answer to the problem but it should answer your questions about lag. If we can get things tweaked like adding wake_lock support, it should help.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mcfarlan:
Thanks...looking forward to developments...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mcfarlan:
See the other thread where you posted this question...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Nullin:
OK but I want to solute it quickly
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] szymonunion:
Nullin,

there was a link just 2 pages before:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3428724&postcount=4066

Regards,

--

SzYmOn
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] loserp3:
Looks sweeet.

i cant wait.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mcfarlan:
Case anyone is interested...I am not experiencing the in-call delay using Android-1.5-2009-08-08 with the system-jacheroski1.5r2.img. No wi-fi....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] szymonunion:
Hello,

I installed yesterday Zenulator_SuperHero_Kaiser-wifi-su--081609.img + zImage from 140809 + rootfs from enatefox's message few pages before (I think). Works fine, but it is too slow so what I should install to have it faster? My SD card (8GB) has only one partition. Should I install PureBlack + last rootfs/system.img/zImage or what ?

Regards,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
I'm using his latest version of JACHeroSki1.6 with newest zImage and rootfs with compcache and swap
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] szymonunion:
enatefox,

do I need to do sthg with my SD card? I don't want it 'coz I have important files from WinMo saved on this card.

Do you have Vouge or Kaiser? I do not see that system-jacheroski1.6.img is for Kaiser too ??? Am I wrong ?

edit: Is this OK ?

- zImage-14-08-09a

- system-jacheroski1.6.img

- rootfs-8-20-09-30MBcc-backingstore+32mbswap-PMOS69.img

Regards,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
I have a Tilt/Kaiser. You don't need to do anything to your SD card. If there's no backing partition on it, the rootfs.img you have will not require it.

It's for Vogue but works on a Kaiser. Wifi should be working but if not let me know and I'll send Zen a fixed image. I'm working on an issue where some (me) need a ready made data.img or it boot loops. If you have that issue, download his data.img and it should work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JacenSolo2001:
enatefox,

Do you have any lagging between screens on your tilt? xROM works well on my tilt with a minimum of lagging, htc screens, etc.....everything else looks nice but, really gives me major slowness issues.

What are you running now, exactly? I'm back to trying different combinations of files, but coming up short.....

Thanks for the help !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] szymonunion:
enatefox,

I am just installing/running new files. What is your default.txt file? I will attach mine when it will be possible (booting Android now).

edit:

I just installed:

rootfs-8-20-09-30MBcc-backingstore+32mbswap-PMOS69.img

system-jacheroski1.6.img

zImage-14-08-09a

initrd.gz

Now I am configuring... and going to business party so I next message I will write at home :)

Regards,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] victorhora:
slow!

Hello there,

I have been following the Android threads since March.

All i want is to congratulate you guys for helping making Android work so well on Kaiser.

A special thanks to the guys that ported the WiFi driver, i was waiting for it for a loooooong time!

So, Android 1.5 CupCake works very good on my Kaiser, 3G conectivity, Wifi, Calls, SMS, Mail and everything else.

The speed is also great delays in apps are rare.

But i cannot say the same for the HERO ROM.

I'm using Natalic's bundle (thanks Natalic's :))

http://scarlet-arrow.com/builds/Hero...09_DMAWIFI.rar

According to the bundle, it has compcache and swap so it should be fast right?

Not on my Kaiser...

Everything seems to work fine too, 3G, Wifi, GPS, Mail, SMS (except for the known boring warning).

But the speed is too slow, i don't know what's the motivation in porting the HERO build.

What's the main advantage over the CupCake build? It's just the "iPhone style" stuff?

Or there is a real big feature?

I think a nice interface and linux is just good enough...

Shouldn't we put all of our efforts in porting the missing things on the 1.5 Cupcake build?

I keep wondering that the HERO build will never be good enough for Kaiser...

HTC Hero has a much better hardware.

Well it's just my 2 cents...

Maybe i'm doing something wrong or i need to optmize a little bit...

Help and suggestions are always welcome.

Thanks again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
Well, if don't like hero, don't use it. Personaly I think Hero is a very nice UI implementation.

But the truth is, HTC got slammered with warnings in reviews and customer complaints because sense-ui was slow running on the Hero!!!

We're talking about the device sense-ui was developed for.

HTC developed an update to address those issues (not yet released) and yesterday, a few builds came out based on a leak of that update. These builds are much better, even in their current unoptimized state. (They're basicaly ports)

The performance achieved on the kaiser until now, with it's hardware limitations is nothing less than amazing.

Things are looking good...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jcc332006:
They sure are man. these roms and performance are getting better and better. i was always leery about android on kaiser ect. but since i took the jump im feening for new updates everyday. i was getting tired of wm 6

. 5 and glad i started following this development. keep up the good work my fellow droids.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Plus, this is a thread about Hero on a Kaiser so probably not the right place to say it's not worth it. For those running it properly, maybe the new leak aside, we seem to be <= the speed of the real thing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
Hero is nice I have tried evry configuration I can think to make this work but it just isn't happening for me. I have followed since around the end of january I do have to say that I use this as a web tool mstly but it just seems to me that after the 1.0 cupcake the browser has slowed down a bit. I do like heros built in flash that's about the only thing that keeps me somewhat interested in hero but as an everyday OS I have to stick with the ION builds. Just my 2 cents if someone could strip all the sense ui stuff it would probly help big time. I don't really see what good its for anyways but I haven't really kept up with all this new tech stuff for a long time. I have tried going through the steps of atleast looking at the source code for android but am having issues getting some of the files to download and install. I may have to download a fresh ubuntu I keep getting the repo command doesn't exist or something of the sorts. Not that I have any idea about developement in linux but I was curious what the code looked like
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kkkkevinkim:
weather temp

could someone tell me how to change the temperature from centigrade to Fahrenheit in the kaiser using Google Heros beta rom
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] voyteckst:
Where You have downloaded this software? Can You please write what is working and what is not?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] szymonunion:
voyteckst,

I downloaded it from http://code.google.com/p/vogue-hero/downloads/list

Everything seems be working fine, but I also think it is a little bit too slow...

Regards,

PS. Witamy Kraków na pokładzie :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] szymonunion:
enatefox,

what is the difference between:

system-jacheroski1.6-wifi.img

system-jacheroski1.6.img

???

I didn't check if wifi is working in system-jacheroski1.6.img, but I thought that yes.

Regards,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] voyteckst:
Tanks for the answer. I will try it (can You please list files You use?)

PS. Pozdr dla stolicy również ;-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] szymonunion:
voyteckst,

files are listed in my previous message. Few pages back you will find link to initrd.gz in message written by someone else.

You can use system-jacheroski1.6-wifi.img, because it seems be newer file.

Regards,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
I would recomend: http://vogue-hero.googlecode.com/files/JACHeroski16-kaiser-sqsh.zip
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] voyteckst:
Ok, thanks. Can You also post Your default.txt?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] szymonunion:
pmos69,

thx 4 info - I just refreshed page and I see now these files - I will download and update my installation :)

Regards,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] szymonunion:
enatefox, pmos69,

can you please let me know if these settings are OK or I can change sthg to be better ?

Thanks in advance!

My default.txt file:

set RAMSIZE 0x08000000

set MTYPE 1553

set KERNEL zImage

set initrd initrd.gz

set cmdline "ppp.username=xxx ppp.password=xxx mddi.width=320 mddi.height=480 msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=32000000 pm.sleep_mode=0 board-htcvogue.panel_type=1 lcd.density=160 board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=0 no_console_suspend ppp.nostart=1"

boot

I am just thinking with options and I will try to start these one below:

set cmdline "clock-7x00.mddi=0xa51 clock-7x00.ahb_div=4 clock-7x00.a11=528 board-kaiser-battery.battery_capacity=1400 board-kaiser-ts.PMAX=700 ppp.username=xxx ppp.password=xxx mddi.width=320 mddi.height=480 msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=32000000 pm.sleep_mode=0 lcd.density=160 board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=0 no_console_suspend ppp.nostart=1 board-htckaiser.panel_type=2"

Regards,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
Well, you tell me :)

I'm actually using a simpler default.txt, so if anything you test gives you any improvements, please share.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] szymonunion:
pmos69,

this JACHeroski16-kaiser-sqsh.zip is strange, because during booting I got:

mount: mounting /dev/block/loop1 on /system failed: Invalid argument

failed

failed to mount /system

/bin/sh: can't access tty1 job control turned off

#

What's going on? All files are on root SD. Files are: initrd.gz, rootfs.img, system.img, zImage.

Regards,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
You took the system.sqsh and renamed it system.img. It's a sqsh file so leave that extension.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] szymonunion:
enatefox,

I knew it! Just rename to other name. There was no info so I changed to system.img.

Thx 4 info.

Regards,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
did using this squashfs improve the performance on this build? I've not given up yet on hero just waiting for a decent improvement over the last few builds
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] szymonunion:
pmos69,

I started with my FULL default.txt I attached in previous posts and I do not see right now any difference. Maybe after longer using...

Regards,