yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] miro666:
I think 4.48.25.20 work for 850 and 1900 CDMA (U.S.A and Canada network system), but by me in Croatia CDMA (3G,UMTS,HSPDA) is on 900 and 2100, and GSM on 900 and 1800...Like an in Serbia. Or im wrong ? Can you say it work Radio ROM v4.48.25.20 on 2G (GSM,GPRS,EDGE) and 3G (UMST,HSPDA,HUSPA) network in your country ?

Forward thanks friend on answer.

Unaprijed hvala prijatelju na odgovoru. :)

Regards
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BumAround:
Excellent points, really!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ghekua:
Mirror links for all radio rom of Topaz:

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=6d5f16590d3d05785bf1f12f1ff3f30ab3655c9bf2284c48f0a154af670496da
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] thysone:
I went back from 4.49.25.57 to 4.49.25 17 because of battery useage.

I analysed the battery usage on both radios in the same conditions on the same device and I saw an improvement on 4.49.25 17 :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] jngtt:
which is the best rom for AT&T?

the battery drain on my phone is so bad i get 1.5 days of use the most :(

i have tried 4.49.25.17 and 4.49.25.57 and 57 is giving me better battery life like 2hrs more
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] gianton:
I have come to the conclusion that battery drainage is more related to the base ROM drivers and the settings you choose rather than Radio version itself.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BumAround:
Yes. Also the quality of the network signal on your location. :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] gianton:
Yes forgot about that. ;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] jngtt:
well i can gladly say that the 4.49.25.05 is more battery efficient for me, looks like i can make it to day 2 :P but the signal seems weaker
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] adamwest:
Hi

I'm using 4.49.25.17 with tess pride II rom.

I think the battery seems to go quite quickly but the gps is lightning, its really quick. even from stone cold.

I've got to decide what rom I'm going to be sticking with first then I'll do some messing about with radio's and leave some feedback

edit:

after using today properly for the first time, the gps is really laggy, I've heard people say the gps was laggy about other phones I've had (diamond, rapheal) but never really noticed. This was really laggy ie turn left here! I've just gone past that road etc...

I might give the latest radio a go
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BumAround:
My personal experience, I'm always in between 4.48.25.28 and 4.49.25.17 no matter which ROM I use.

Like the abovementioned, your location (signal strength, network quality, carrier, etc) plays significant role too, so not just the radio ROM itself.

Besides, one or two bars on the signal indicator sometimes means nothing. I suspect it's just a smoke-and-mirror thing put together to make you feel better.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BumAround:
excellent question from talonz55 remain unanswered:

which one consumes more battery: (A) a radio ROM sticks/holding to certain bandwith/frequency until certain xxx dbm, OR (B) a radio ROM which is flexible on switching between frequencies ? :confused::confused:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] labrok:
Does someone know which radio version is better for Greece? i am using 4.49.25.17

which is good but i have sometimes disconnections from wifi is the last 4.49.25.57 better in this?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] gianton:
.17 works the best for me. Very stable and good battery life.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BumAround:
any taker?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Pete_S:
I don't think it would make a lot of difference. If you're on the move, your radio is switching between cells anyway. If you're not using the phone (if it's in standby) it's the cell switching which takes most battery. Whether the phone switches to a 2G or 3G cell probably doesn't matter.

It's probably more important when you're trying to stream data (downloading or listening to internet radio). Constantly switching between 2G and 3G is probably far more disruptive than hanging on to 3G as long as possible and connecting to another 3G cell. It would depend heavily on how the network handles the transitions too.

It's a complex subject that really needs a mobile telecoms engineer to explain fully
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] fofo13:
Radio for 3G 850 Band (America)

Hi, did anyone knows a radio that work on America, specifically 3G on 850 Band? I would very greatfull if someone just tell me or xplain me if its a hardware or software limitation, cause rigth now, I doesn't work on that frequency, and I need to make it work.

Thanks.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ckthye86:
One question? will flashing a radio format my phone?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] honcorrd:
no it won't format your phone, just change the radio software from the one you choose
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ckthye86:
NBH file not found.

Hi, I downloaded 4.49.25.17 radio version, the file was downloaded as Topaz_Radio_4.49.25.17.exe.

One of the steps listed in the 1st page was "Rename radio to TOPAIMG.nbh, copy to your SD-Card, go to bootloader (Reset with VolumeDown pressed)".

The problem is, there is no NBH file for me to rename it, only the exe file. So how do I flash this radio? Thanks, I'm still new to WinMo.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BumAround:
have you tried to run the exe file, maybe it'll self extract? try it, it wont explode on your face....:D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ckthye86:
The exe file is not a self-extracting file...it's a custom RUU I think
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] gianton:
Here is the nbh

RADIO 4.49.25.17

http://www.mediafire.com/?0zxnje2zyth
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cobo10201:
ok I don't want to be like, flamed for this question, but if I update the radio to the AT&T radio on my European Touch Diamond 2, will I be able to get 3G in the US? Because I can't right now.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] 100thMonkey:
what was the last phone that you bought from ATT? if the last one that you bought was a GSM only, then you might not have the feature "UMTS attach" provisioned on your account, but no, changing the radio version will not make a difference....you might want to check the band settings in the phone though to make sure that you're on Auto or WCMDA, as opposed to GSM only
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Bruce Inman:
disregard post.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] JEANRIVERA:
security unlock

do i need to security unlock my device to be able to change the radio? i did search and did not find anytihing about it i have a at&t htc pure
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mosca:
4.49.25.17, the best
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] janneman22:
Can you upload a another mirror for latest Radio. First is VERY slow and second is damaged:mad:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
New Rapidshare link.

Post #1 updated. Sorry for the inconvenience.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] miro666:
I will only saying my experience, after 48 hours using newest Radio version 4.49.25.57 ,on NhatHoa ROM 6.5.11.0 and on VIPnet carrier in Croatia, 3G network (not 2.5 GSM), my battery life is much,much better (strange, other user saying this radio version eat battery), and reception is exellent, and i can say acustic on call is much improvement from 4.49.25.17. GPS light better too, and Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, is very well too. Radio Protocol is not 61.44tc.25.32U, but 61.44tc.25.32AU. Have it some effect on improvement ?

Regards
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] janneman22:
Thanks alot. Downloading now:D:D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] drtolson:
You only need to Security Unlock your phone if you want to install a non-Topaz Radio. I would strongly suggest you Hard-SPL your phone before attempting to install any radio, tho...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] drtolson:
Nope, sorry, the only topaz that will get 3G on ATT in the US/Canada is the PURE. All the others have the wrong radio frequencies built into them, and there is no way to change that in firmware.

That said, the european topaz's SHOULD work on T-mobile's network for 3G, since T-M uses the same 1700 frequency as parts of Europe and East.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] jj_ewing:
Hi everyone,

first of all I want to thank you for the great forum, i mean entire forum.

thanks for having you guys!!!

Now i have one maybe silly question but i do not have enough courage to do it without asking you :)

Is there any dependancies between RADIO version and OS ROM and PROTOCOL versions?

I am doing some battery tests on my Topaz and for now i am stuck with otiginal EasternEurope WM6.1 ROM 1.39.479.2 and original 61.20t.25.10U Protocol. I am questioning you, can i flash only the radio (4.49.25.17) without protocol or OS or i need to upgrade some of the above mension ones as well.

i have read in this thread that some people were flashed only radio on stock ROM 6.5. and the other ones that are using WM6.1 but not the stock ones. that is why i am asking this.

i would like to thank you all in advice for the answers and for the understanding, and to excuse myself fot my english level.

thanks again :)

p.s.

i will share my results if you are interested in.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Bothkill:
Currently I have the 6.1 OS and I don't intend on moving to the 6.5 just yet.

But I wanted to have the newst Radio ROM.

So, I flashed yesterday the latest Radio ROM (4.49.25.57).

After this, both the Radio and Protocol versions were upgraded to the new versions.

Only that the correct Protocol version is 61.44tc.25.32AU.

As can be seen here, the Radio contains also the Protocol.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Bothkill:
Maybe it should be made clear that the methods no.2 and 3 are alternative and not sequential.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] desolateone:
Am having trouble getting my TD2 to connect to G, always get E with the occasional flash of a G when it is trying to d/l from the internet....

Have tried the following:

4.49.25.05http://www.giesecke.tk/xda/index.php?dir=Radios/

4.49.25.17http://www.giesecke.tk/xda/index.php?dir=Radios/

4.49.25.57

Anyone else in Australia on Telstra NextG having the same issue?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
Good idea, thanks for the hint.

Post#1 changed!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] libove:
G=GPRS, E=EDGE, 3G/H=fast, no?

I've always seen the "G" icon to indicate the oldest, slowest GPRS speeds; "E" to indicate the 2nd generation EDGE speeds, and "3G" or "H" to indicate the modern fast speeds. Are you sure that the flashes of "G" you're seeing aren't when your signal levels dip _lower_ instead of _higher_?

-J
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] desolateone:
Sorry I meant 3G :D

I cannot get 3G no matter what settings I use! :mad:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] vippie:
Maybe the 3G switch is turned off in the comm manager/wireless controls?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] jj_ewing:
thanks a lot Bothkill ,

i didn't see this article. so after all there is demendancies between radio and protocol. maybe the 4.49.xx radios are so good because of combination with proper protocol :)

i am going to finish the last test with battery performance tomorrow and will flash the new radio very very soon. i hope that the battery performance will increase more.

thank you again!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] EgorLev:
"Last edited by BeeGee_Tokyo; Today at 08:25 AM.. Reason: Added 4.48.25.57 radio! Updated link "

I need glasses? Where is the link?:rolleyes:

may be you mean 4.49.25.57?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cyron_at:
...you pic shows us that you already have glasses ;-)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] EgorLev:
may be I should use some kind of newer model.:D but I realy can`t find the link to 4.48.25.57 even with ctrl+F in the first post
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
:D:eek::rolleyes:;):p

Ok Ok Ok

It was a typo :p:p:p

Corrected :p

It was of course 4.49.25.57

:D:D:D:D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Riekr:
but on the article you linked the protocol for 4.49.25.57 is still 61.44tc.25.32U (witout A), which radio rom have you flashed? (maybe a link would help)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] miro666:
By my device write too protocol 61.44tc.25.32AU for Radio ROM 4.49.25.57... wich is correct ?

Regards
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] geoncide:
i am new in installing Radio's, and there are a bunch too choose from... can someone recommend one for me? it says it depends on a persons wifi/network/place etc, im using GSM, and i live in pakistan...

any help would b much appreciated...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Bothkill:
Since the phone reports the protocol version 61.44tc.25.32AU, I conclude this is the correct one.

The table needs correction.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Riekr:
i still don't understand one thing...

why i have protocol 61.44tc.25.32U and i don't have issued with 4.49 radios?

i think they are both working
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] jj_ewing:
i have two suppositions:

1. you have flashed a new radio which contains this protocol and then revert back to older radio that do not contain other protocol and that is why the last one protocol stays intact.

2. you have flashed the newest official ROM WM6.5 which contains this protocol by default and after that you have flashed another radio(or ROM that contains radio in it) that do not contain any other protocol.

i may be wrong about above mentioned things,but you did not give us other information about your device that will be usefull to make more adequate decisions.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Riekr:
i flashed many radios (if not all) in this thread first page, last switch was from 4.49.25.57 to 4.49.25.17 but the protocol was the same (i started to look at the protocol just at last radio downgrade, before and after the downgrade).

can someone provide a link to a radio with protocol 61.44tc.25.32AU so i can try to upgrade the protocol too? :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] DaveNavy:
Best RADIO for T-Mobile USA?

I Just Unlocked My At&t Pure, CID/SIM And HSPL 1.83 Flashed it with MDA COMPACT V UK Official And Have my T-Mobile USA SIM Inside, What is The Best Compatible RADIO for T-mobile USA On This Device?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
Try the 4.49.25.57, for most people it is the best. Or search this thread for T-Mobile USA to see what other users from US say.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
Why is the Radio ROM thread no more sticky?

Moderators :confused::confused::confused:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] criszz:
only moderator for topaz forum is !aman. >>> http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Forum_Mods

maybe he knows something
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cyron_at:
+1..please sticky again!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] :
please keep this sticky!!!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] miro666:
BeeGee_Tokyo,

Our Topaz Radio ROMs have very same like HTC Rhodium device Radio ROMs, (same version number, same protocol number), and now i have see on Rhodium xda-thread, one newest Radio ROM v4.49.25.88

Can you, or somebody who have courage, on our Topaz testing it ? :)

Rhodium (Touch Pro2) Radio's

Thanks forwarding

Regards
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] miro666:
Well i am unpatient...I will testing this newest Radio ROM, flashed, but my battery is very low...Will charging and for few hours (by me is 3:40) i go on work and testing newest Radio ROM... :)

Regards
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] citiboy:
So how? is it work, after you flash Rhodium radio into Topaz? :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] miro666:
No yet....battery charging for about one and half hour...I will flash, and testing between 8:00 and 16:00 (central european time)....

Regards
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ckthye86:
My friend and I are both using same radio version and Topaz. However, my Topaz seems to have a problem getting into 3G network (extremely hard but easy to get [E]) while hers was easy..

Could there be a problem with my Topaz radio?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] desolateone:
Need more information, like:

Country: ?

Carrier: ?

Signal Strength: ?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] desolateone:
Well I get ERROR [244] : INVALID MODEL ID every time, so I'm rather curious as to how you managed to get it to work.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
You have to change the signature of the nbh file. Can be done with some tools. Will try it tonite after work.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] miro666:
Im not yet flash .88 version, i am on work...Than v4.49.25.88 not go on our Topaz ?

Regards
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] miro666:
OK, Thank You BeeGee_Tokyo. Than i not flashing v4.49.25.88 nbh from Rhodium thread, I waiting your making... :),i must now drive out of city

Thanks

Regards
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
Changed the signature, could start to flash from SD card. But after flash I get an error "RSA failure" and my Topaz didn't boot anymore. Had to reflash a Topaz Radio to get it back to life.

Seems it is more than just the signature.

Anybody else knows if Rhodium Radios work on Topaz?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] fazalali110:
i think you need to security unlock it first.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] donteo:
Any news about 4.45.25.88 ???
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Bruce Inman:
Yeah, Olipro can provide the CID unlocker but he's not been very forthcoming with responses.

I e-mailed him over 6 months ago, one response but he never offered software free or otherwise.

Since I figured he was going to charge me anyways (a few months after I kicked him down $15 for my Fuze unlocker), I decided to stick with Topaz radios.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] fazalali110:
hmm, the guy isn't all that bad, gave a diamond unlocker for no charge :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
waiting for my unlocker. hope I get it free as well ;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] miro666:
Any news about adapting Radio ROM version 4.49.25.88 for our Topaz from Rhodium device?

BeeGee_Tokyo, what say your unlocker ? Any chance ?

Regards
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] giozera:
Radio 4.49.25.57 drains battery fast on AT&T USA

just to let u all know my battery drains really fast on my At&t pure with 4.49.25.57 radio. I have Duttys Holy Grail R6 WWE and downgrading it down to 4.49.25.17 which was best for this rom.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] miro666:
By my location (east Croatia, VIPnet network provider) Radio ROM 4.49.25.57 is exellent (on ROM in my signature),not much drain battery, especcially is very good on 3G, very clear sound on call progress and GPS very quick, without A-GPS too...

But when and what we can waiting from 4.49.25.88 when will adapting for Topaz ?

Regards
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
Still waiting for my unlocker :(

Maybe someone else with an unlocker can try it.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] japester36:
I'll happily give it a try.

My Topaz is Security Unlocked and HardSPL'd.

BeeGee: Can you give me access to your .nbh with the changed signature or let me know how to edit it myself?

Cheers

John
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] johnny.g:
+1 on Orange UK.. with nothing going on on the TD2 (28014 ROM) - .57 used 4% drain overnight (8hrs).. swapped back to .17 & it used <1% (i.e still showed 100%) after 8hrs. enough evidence for me
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] alhuang69:
Please keeps it STICKY ...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
It is still "sticky". People just have to look to [ROLLUP MUST READ]ROM resources: HardSPL, Unlocking, Custom RUU, Kitchens, Radios which is still sticky.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BumAround:
Here, somewhere in Asia, .57 used ~1% overnight after fully charged.

So, .57 and .17 pretty much the same in battery drains. :rolleyes:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
Maybe one solution would be to use the fieldtest.exe that is available on some devices.

I do not know exactly what data it shows, but my idea would be

to collect signal status over a day and write it into a file for later examination. The fieldtest program gives data for GSM, GPRS, WCDMA, 3G, ...

that might be helpfull to compare signal quality.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] koizinho:
Radio version v 4.47.25.31

In Portugal i am having really good reception with Radio version v 4.47.25.31.

I used 4.47.25.01 but this one is really better.

Increased GSM signal in one bar and most of the time in two bars.

BT OK.

Wi-Fi OK.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] -KJ-:
To start the fieldtest on a Touch Diamond 2 just "dial":

*#*#364#*#*
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] akirius:
I tried fieldtest_157.exe

Is nice, but kind of useless if we cant record and plot the data

I hope somebody can write a capture tool to record the data so we can plot it using excel
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] rspillo:
With my old HTC Cruise used the Phone Today and I was good to record the signal GSM:

I installed it on the Topaz, but it does not work

:(
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
fieldtest can record, at least it is somehow in the menu, but I do not know what it is recording or where it is stored.

You can even set an interval. See on the screenshots.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] paokaras45:
this just enables refreshing of the values.

try pressing stop an look at the screen
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] akirius:
^exactly

What we need is a hex viewer that can extract memory data from the phone:)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] akirius:
WAIT, is that an output file from fieldtest?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
no, this is a screenshot while fieldtest is running. I misunderstood Start/Stop in the menu. I thought its to write the values into a file.

I do not know if you can start fieldtest with parameters to write the output to a file.

if we could find out what registers fieldtest is reading to produce this screen, it would be not too difficult to write a program which does the same and writes it to a file.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] akirius:
No, I was talking about the picture rspillo posted

It has both time and signal strength, which is exactly what we need for statistical analysis
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] jonj:
Are you able to get 3g on T-Mo US?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
This is from the prog Phone Today. I tried it, it runs on my WM 6.1 TESS ROM. I added some more screen shots.

The problem is that Phone Today is not free and it is working only on WM today screen, not with Manila.

I attached some screenshots.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] akirius:
Nop, EDGE only

Even if you have full internet(not web2go), you still will only get EDGE

I have web2go btw
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] akirius:
Oh ok,

that is unfortunate

I will not pay a cent for a simple program like this....

Did some googling and found out that the phone signal strength is stored at HKLM\System\State\Phone\Signal Strength

Will try to write a data logger when I get back
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
I think I found what we need, but now I need a programmer :(

In MSDN a datastructure is explained which has the information we need.

typedef struct {

DWORD cbSize;

DWORD dwParams;

int nSignalStrength;

int nMinSignalStrength;

int nMaxSignalStrength;

DWORD dwBitErrorRate;

int nLowSignalStrength;

int nHighSignalStrength;

} RILSIGNALQUALITY;

Someone able to write a small application with

RIL_Initialize

Do

HRESULT RIL_GetSignalQuality( HRIL hRil);

Write HRIL to StorageCard​

While forever

or something like this.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
Either this, or can you try to use the data structure I found on MSDN?