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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] myknyte:
JUST FOR THE RECORD:

I initially had the HTC TOUCH PRO 2 (TMobile unlocked for ATT) but switched to

ATT TILT PRO 2 because that has hardware for 3g.

The BATTERIES ARE INTERCHANGEABLE

-The stylus are not

-The back covers are not

-Screen protectors are not (button and speaker placements are different)

-Leather cases are interchangeable though

and yes, ATT TILT 2 has recessed Volume UP/DOWN buttons + a PTT button (missing on touchPro2).

Keyboard layout is much better on the TMobile phone but if you're upgrading from HTC Touch Pro, then you'll feel right at home with the ATT Keyboard.

PS: the non-desctructive ANDROID ROM (search for it here) works on TOUCH PRO but not for TILT2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] JackmanL:
Update from Nov 30th posting - 2150 mAh battery

Received the OEM 2150 mAh battery for my Tilt 2 from Talkietech.com the following day. Battery and HTC OEM battery door fit perfect. Speaker phone button on battery door works fine and still shows led status through the button. I was pleasantly surprised that the extended battery and cover did not add all that much thickness and still fit my leather pouches. In fact, I found the way the battery door dips into the camera/speaker phone button area quite ergonomically comfortable to hold the phone.

Now for the important part. After charging overnight, the battery lasted 2 full days with lots of use. After dozens of calls, I lost track of how much time was actually used. However, I also used the phone for 20 minutes as a WiFi router in addition to all the calls. At the end of the first day it still showed 60%. By the end of the second day it showed 30% remaining so that night I played a few games on it for another 35 minutes before the low battery alert sounded. I feel really comfortable I can get 2 full days of heavy use out of this battery. Testing the original 1500 mAh battery under similar conditions also went through the first day but didn't make it past noon on the second day. All in all, I definitely recommend the 2150 mAh battery for anyone who is a heavy user or relies on their phone longer than a day.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] osirisHTC:
Just bought one. Hope it's good.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] wpbear:
There is a thread about battery claims and mAH. The battery didnt fair as well as we would like. I get about the same as the OEM, maybe a little less, but I still think it is a good buy for $10.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] osirisHTC:
Do you think that this battery would charge on this USB thing ?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5567935&postcount=8
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] wpbear:
Yes the battery will charge in that but I dont recommend these, they suck. Cheap quality, break easy second slot need AC adapter, while cradle needs USB and not work from AC, poor design and NO cust support. I ended up with http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300386486694 works great.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] Cjoco:
this could be right !!!!!!

:confused: Hi Guys

For me is hard to believe that 9.00$ batteries from Hong Kong work nicer end better than other standard replacement battery (1750 mah, 2000 mah and 2150 mah

There is any one in US or Canada buy those batteries used for more than 2-3 weeks and have a good comment

Thank you
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] wpbear:
Did you not read my last post above yours....I think it works almost as good. So unless you find an OEM for $9-$11 then buy a hong kong battery and be happy. I have seen OEM for about $25 but for half the price the hong kong is very good.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] osirisHTC:
Thanks !

Great review.

I am getting this one.

2 Battery+USB Charger for Sprint HTC Touch Pro 2 Pro2

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250581187014
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] wpbear:
I have that charger it works well, Cant comment on the battery. I have an andia which is ok for the price.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] EricaJ1073:
I am looking for OEM sized extended life batteries (those that DON'T require the bigger door). Seidio offers a 1750mAh for the T-Mobile USA version (my phone). Is there anything with a larger capacity but the same size as the original battery? Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] bczrx:
For those who have the extended batteries and battery doors on their phones, I would appreciate a favor if/when you have time.

Could you make a measurement of the overall thickness with the battery cover on?

I am especially interested in the differences between the HTC OEM 2150 battery and cover for the TP2, the Seidio 3500 battery and cover, and the Mugen 4500 battery and cover.

It would be useful if we pooled our knowledge and created a comparitive chart of thickness: OEM/HTC2150/Seidio3500/Mugen3200/Mugen4500.

I have the Sprint/CDMA phone, so that is my concern. However, I think a chart of thicknesses would be useful

I"ll start:

_____OEM/__HTC2150/Seidio3500/__Mugen3200/__Mugen4500

mm:_17.3/__????????/_20.3-21.3 /____????????/__??????????/

in:__.681/__????????/_.8-.84____/____????????/__??????????/

The OEM thickness in MM comes from PDAnet. Conversion to Inches done by dividing by 25.4 [mm-inch].

The Seidio thickness is determined from their website claim to only add 3-4mm to the thickness. PEOPLE WITH THIS BATTERY: PLEASE VERIFY IT FOR US!

Please contribute to this chart by copying, adding the measurements and submitting. Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] Cyclonut:
Added the HTC2150 with the At&t Extended door for that battery (PTT button)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] bczrx:
Thank You!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] bczrx:
OK, here is an unverified thickness chart for Sprint/CDMA TouchPro 2 phones with extended battery packs added. If anyone has the data for GSM cases, please indicate if the thickness is any different.

_____OEM/__HTC(cdma)2150/Seidio(cdma)3500/Mugen(cdma)3200/Mugen(cdma)4500

mm:_17.3/__________20.25/_______20.3-21.3/________22.3mm/________30.3mm/

in:__.681/___________.797/__________.8-.84/___________.878/__________1.193/

The OEM thickness in MM comes from PDAnet. Conversion to Inches done by dividing by 25.4 [mm-inch].

The Seidio thickness is determined from their website claim to only add 3-4mm to the thickness. PEOPLE WITH THIS BATTERY: PLEASE VERIFY IT FOR US!

The Mugen numbers are VERY approximate, as they are based on my lame attempts at measuring the thickness of the OEM back and adjusting for the Mugen battery covers.

The Mugen 3200 cover is 15mm thick, or .6 inches. The Mugen 4500 cover is 23mm thick, or .9 inches.

All numbers for their thickness are thanks to NIKOLAI at Mugen.

I came up with an OEM battery cover thickness of 10mm.

PLEASE confirm this if you have better tools to measure than I do, and then modify the overall thickness accordingly.

The forumula I used was: [OEM overall thickness-10mm+Mugen thickness]

THANK YOU, Cyclonut, for contributing the HTC Extended thickness!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] Cyclonut:
Happy to help when I can. Just to note my phone is a GSM (At&t tilt 2). Didn't know if you only wanted CDMA. Sorry if I goofed.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] bczrx:
Thanks for the help. I don't think it will matter, as I doubt the cover/door is any deeper on yours than the CDMA, but I've updated the list for accuracy.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] stcardinal:
So any updates on batery life after the upgrade?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] zathrus1976:
This rom is from the Orange uk site rom is dated aug 09

http://www.business.orange.co.uk/se...=Phone&pagename=Business&t=SMEDeviceDownloads

Mod EDIT HDuser

Added to wiki

OrangeUK_HTCTouchHD_1.59.61.2_Radio_52.64.25.34_1.14.25.24_Ship_phone_software

End Mod Edit
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] iky10:
i had no idea orange even release updates for Touch HD, i wouldnt even try it
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] JPW:
Any one tried this yet?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] pw120:
I'm downloading it, its worth a look, can always flash back to 1.56

Just flashed, strange... The splash screen says:

Smart Mobility

Test Only

Not For Sale

ROM verion 1.59.61.1 (48753)

uses radio 1.14

wm6.1 build 20769.1.4.5

Opera Version 9.5.16703

AGPS is enabled by default.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] GutsyTripod:
seems ok for a stock rom

youtube player is pretty decent, didn't stop once during a 4 min video

no activesync popup like the old ones

I'm just away to try blackberry connect on it to see how it goes
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] phatagnus:
thank you for the ROM

Thank you for the ROM! It says on boot (just under the smart mobility part)something like "test version, not for sale". Obviously, it's made out of very old "components" (TouchFlo 1.3, etc) but, to be honest, this ROM is quite fast, and more important (for me) there's no lag on input keyboard, I almost forgot how good it is, without lag when typing :)

I think I may keep this for a week or two and see how's going. Right now I think it's the fastest ROM that I ever saw on Blackstone.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Maxwell Smart:
How do I get rid of the "Test Only".... I flashed this ROM, didn't like it and then flashed Dutty's R12 but the Test Only is still there.

I saw someone mentioned something about an nbh file elsewhere but not how to get it.

Thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Heefy:
This is Touch Flo 3D Version 1.3.37395.3_1630.38 from Windows 6.1 Professional CE OS 5.2.20769 and ROM version 1.59.61.1 (48753) WWE dated 06/10/09. Its is a very old rom but my word is it quick!

Seriously this is quick.

H
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Heefy:
It does however come with a program called "video player" which is version 05.20.25.01 and possibly quite old, however its is excellent at playing judder free video recorded on the HD!.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] DRTigerlilly:
do a couple hard resets
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mnet:
flash new splash screen.

or just flash stock rom, then flash any rom you want.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] GutsyTripod:
6 resets still haven't cleared it
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vodanh2025:
you shouldn't flash new rom if you don't know exactly about it :eek:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] smeddy:
I'm taking a guess here (just a user, not a chef), but perhap's Dutty's Rom doesn't change the splash screen, but other ROMs might?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vodanh2025:
maybe, try miri rom 6.5 with orange splash screen
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] GutsyTripod:
tried tricolour blue 6.1 and miri 6.5 26.3 and no joy

reinstalled HSPL 1.56 and no joy!

damn you orange, its the latest official rom for my phone (bought on UK Orange originally)

Of all the possible problems that can happen during the countless roms I've tried eg sd card missing, bricking etc, I can't believe that its an official rom thats giving me problems ! unbelievable :eek:

Why would they put this crap on it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] pw120:
Try an official 1.56 rom.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sbarts:
I don't know if this would help?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=469146
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] GutsyTripod:
SOLVED

Just flashed HTC Europe 1.56.401.0 and its fixed

Thanks for all help

:):):):):):):):):):)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bigdyl69:
Nice find, just need my replacement HD to hurry up and arrive today from Orange and I can start flashing again. Is there any proven way to get rid of the Test message? Thanks to the original poster :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] afr33s:
See the post above yours :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Graeme:
I can confirm that HTC_WWE_1.56.405.1 clears the text also.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cupidro:
if tested can anybody measure the quality of the conectivity section.

Is the internet connection performing better then the new roms or at least compare it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] SiJ2000:
I am very please with this new ROM... Frankly, I am going to ignore the TEST message. Clearly they just forgot to remove it when putting the ROM into production from Beta.

It does seem much faster and I am glad to have the alert sounds back which I used to like on the Kaiser!

I have HSPL 1.56 also, although I may stock SPL it in due course... We'll see!

S
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] SingaporeAirlines:
Does this ROM have Google Maps ? I'm still on the ROM that came with one of the first Orange Touch HD's (I still have the keyboard lag - haven't patched that).

Also, would installing this ROM delete my SMSses and Contacts ?

Thanks.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Flashing any new rom will completely erase all data on your HD and restore all factory settings. You would first need to backup your sms, emails, contacts etc using one of the following backup software including PIM Backup, Sashimi, SPB Backup, Sprite or Resco backup.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] protoism:
wow that is one fast rom - obviously it is just the basic - but it works. Recently flashed the latest energy ROM 6.5 manila 2.5 and had real problems sending a txt; plus the layout and desigh well just looked cheap. Dont know if i will stick with the orang rom for long, but it is nice to be able to send txts and use zoom on the camera again.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] SiJ2000:
It is a great ROM... Apparently based on the new 1.59 HTC ROM...

It is very fast and also my phone now alerts when I have a Hotmail... Never did that before!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] JPW:
Hi,

I took the plunge last night and installed this rom.....It only lasted about 20mins before I went back to Laurentus v3.55!!!

Its far too old, full of Orange rubbish, poor quality apps .... Should I carry on

If you want a nice working rom I would highley recommend V3.55 by Laurentus

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=537948

It does everything it says it does and well!!

jpw
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] imtiyazee:
To put down my words all i have to say is one of the best and finest 6.1 roms i have ever used, i'm sure it has the fire to take all 6.1 rom's for granted provided the power consumption improves, yes the only issue i faced is battery drain faster hope someone can fix that and i can keep this rom quite for a long time.

I hope i'm not the only one to experience this...:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] pilotdave:
Hi,

I've been wanting to upgrade my HD for ages now. Orange pass me to HTC, who then refer me back to orange. :rolleyes:

Anyway, my HD is an Orange branded jobbie direct from Orange. Forgive me for asking, but I want to be sure before doing this as I really don't want to brick it (especially as I still have 18 months of contract left!).

Do I need to HSPL/USPL the phone first, or do I just run the executable linked to in the original post and hope everything will work fine?

Many thanks,

Dave
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] veehexx:
ok, so general gist is it's fast....

but how does it compare the the latest and greatest of miri & dutty cooked roms??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] veehexx:
just run it. i think being orange, then you have a comeback on them if it bricked the phone.

that said, aslong as you can get the tri-colour (vol down+power), then you should be able to revive it.

edit: unless i've missed it and it's been posted by someone else, an official link http://www.business.orange.co.uk/se...37233185&extarg2=HTC+Touch+HD™&extarg4=select
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jholwill:
Just a quick question, as I am not quite up to scratch with my flashing;

In the event that my phone might break (so far not.. touch wood!), would installing this rom be enough to return it to an official enough state that orange wouldn't complain about the warranty being voided etc. Or do I need to completely reflash the SPL with the other stock roms on these forums.

As a bit of background, went down the USPL route in the past when flashing to other roms!

Thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] SingaporeAirlines:
Would appreciate if anyone who has this new ROM could tell me if it has Orange Maps or Google Maps (though I suspect the former of course) ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] pilotdave:
Many thanks for the info - and the link to the official download site. :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jholwill:
As far as I can see no google maps in the programs and actually, no obvious links to any sort of orange maps (presume you mean orange local? Or is that just from days of old?)

But in any case, Google maps is an easy download though, just get the cab off the google site?

Edit: Just remembered, orange local can be found when you open up Opera. Apologies if that's not what you were looking for, but its the only orange map "program" I can think of.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] skipper78:
Rom relevant /optimized to network?

Hi all, first post:D

Bit of a noobish questtion I quess, but couldnt find a clear yes/no answer for it.

Being on orange and having an Orange SIM, does running an oficial Orange Rom offer any real advantages when it comes to connection speeds, signal strengh etc? In other words, is the ROM somehow "optimized" to run on Orange, thus providing faster gprs, edge, etc. Or are the Rom and the network completely irrelevant when it comes to this?

I have also flashed it and it does seem quite fast, even compared to some of the most excellent coocked ones.

Thanks and great forum:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] skipper78:
No geegle maps but, as mentioned you want the ver.3 anyway. Orange maps does not work at all for me. But it never has, regardless of the ROM.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] veehexx:
google maps download: http://www.google.com/mobile/products/maps.html#p=default
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] SiJ2000:
It's fast and reliable... I am very pleased with this new ROM... The GPS is MUCH better! When I load Google Maps, it locks on within about 15 seconds! Just fab!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ASK768:
if you want to improve stuff like that, look into flashing a new radio. the 1.14.25.24 is what im using and it works fine. 1.13 broke GPS for me, but it also let the device run a bit cooler.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bigdyl69:
I think this rom includes the 1.14.25.24 radio doesn't it?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] SiJ2000:
It is RADIO 1.14.25.24 as you say above...

This ROM still working perfectly well... I'm very happy with it. I was on 1.56 WWE before from HTC, new Orange one says its based on 1.59.61.1 (48753) WWE

S
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] commando0:
any official links for this rom
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bigdyl69:
The link posted is official, its on the Orange business website, just think they released it before removing the Test Only message from the boot screen
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] pilotdave:
Hi,

I've been using the new ROM for almost a week now. I've definitely not noticed any speed increase as some people have (if anything, it's slightly slower), but it's still useable. Here are a few more observations:

Positives

The on-screen keyboard (although far from perfect) does seem a lot more responsive than the previous ROM. It doesn't miss out every 3rd-4th character when typing fast as it did before.

AGPS actually works now whereas before it just totally killed the GPS and stoped it running at all.

Speaking of GPS, I don't need to reboot the bloody phone every 3-4 days to stand half a chance of get a fix within 5-10 mins like I did before (now I get a fix within 30 secs - even indoors).

Battery life seems to be noticably enhanced. It's been up & running for 2 days now with some moderate use and is only down to half a charge. On the previous ROM with the same level of useage use it'd be beeping away at me by now with a nearly flat battery.

Marginal improvement on signal strength in some weak areas that I visit regularly.

Negatives

The predictive text still isn't working on the standard "keyboard". It does work on compact & full QWERTY, but they are hideous, cumbersome and take up half the screen.

The accelerometer still hasn't been properly integrated into the ROM - it's still necessary to use GSEN to get it working with anything but Opera. When it does work, it still takes a few seconds to decide whether or not to tilt - unlike most iphones I've seen where it's almost instantaneous.

Opera is still cr@p (but is much better than IE). Does anyone know of any better alternatives? Will Firefox ever go mobile?

Other Observations

The start menu appears to have changed. It definitely looks a lot more tacky than the previous one with a chunky over-sized font, but I do like the way the last 5 programs are shown across the top - although by icon only.

I'd cautiously recommend it to anyone with an earlier ROM, especially if you're having problems with keyboards, GPS, battery, etc. However, the improvements are only marginal over V1.19(?) that I was previously using - so don't expect any miracles! The "test only" message is only on screen for a few seconds after hitting the power button, after that, everything looks as per normal.

I'm going to keep it on there for the short term at least, that is, until I find a cooked ROM that looks interesting...

I hope this was of some help to somebody! ;)

Cheers,

Dave
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bigdyl69:
I think you would need to update your SPL too once updating to this ROM, I did from the stock Orange ROM that came with my warranty replacement HD. Just a warning in case someone flashes and wonders why the colours are all wrong
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fards:
well you just extract the os.nb and convert it back to nbh to flash it then if you dont want the spl..

the boot.rgu is unusual in this rom, there's quite a lot of entries missing that are in the other HD roms.

I haven't tried cooking something with that boot.rgu yet
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] GKill:
It looks like WiFi doesn't work in this rom. Anyone can check this?

------------------------

Just checket out> all works fine
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mh297:
No problems with WiFi for me. As stable as any other ROM I've used.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makkad:
orange rom

hi i downloaded the update from orange website today no test message- orange may have done a minor fix without changing revision.

update does seem quicker browsing faster. and phone starts faster.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] shuikit:
Apparently there's a slightly newer version, without the test message.

http://www.coolsmartphone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14389

Has anyone else tried this??

Anyone know if there's any other differences other than the test message??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] GKill:
- On-screen slider feature for answering calls added.

What is this? The green slider was in all ealier roms.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] global_s:
Thanks for the link, I've no plans to install it, but will keep it incase I need to send my phone back to orange and they wonder why its running winmo 6.5. :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] crypta:
link is down!

any mirror?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] victoradjei:
I think you should rea all the moaning about network connection problems in the linked forum above and wait patiently for a fixed ROM :cool:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Wazzok:
The link can't be found. Any chance of an updated link? Thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] pw120:
Go here

http://www.business.orange.co.uk/se...=Phone&pagename=Business&t=SMEDeviceDownloads

and click on the software download link

it has been updated to 1.59.61.2 still with radio 1.14.25.24
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fards:
I presume they've got rid of the bootsplash
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] pw120:
wifi and data both working fine here.

Yes, the bootsplash has been fixed.