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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] daraza:
Yep,i have the same issue.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 160bpm:
Hi Guys,

Is there any .APK to install TouchFlo HERO on a good running Android version?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Razva:
Not as far as I know...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] daraza:
Can we put sum code to "default.txt" with our sim pin, so we pass PIN CODE request ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Vasisualiy:
It seems to me that it defines not in default.txt. This file defines parameters for starting different Linux-based systems via HaRet. The SIM lock/unlock function depends on operating system.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] samuel1113:
try this~~change the file"system.sqsh" from Hero-080909-1 to Hero-100909,hope can help you:rolleyes:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Iced Coffee:
Tried the verson 10/09/09. Don't really like it as it seems too heavy (93Mb) and only works as an interface, after restarting windows comes back and I need to run the haret.exe again and it takes a while. I hope this can be a stand alone system and do not base deeply on windows, and not an UI of windows.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Razva:
Read the documentation please.

Haret is a BOOTLOADER. It BOOTS Android by restarting the phone.

Right now there's no time, nor resources for a "dedicated" bootloader (so you can boot directly into Android) because the coders have higher priorities, like fixing bluetooth, camera, speed, etc.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Shihan:
remote command line.

I was trying to find a way to get to a command line and couldn't find one easily so i messed around on the command line and found telnetd. So if you connect your phone via wifi, all you have to do is start up the "Better Terminal Emulator" program, at the command prompt type "su", then "telnetd".

From then you can just telnet to your phone on its ip address (ifconfig at the terminal emulator will tell you what it is). Login is root and no password (for some reason the login binary doesnt appear to work quite correctly)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kentooi87:
I love it!!!

i tried on the latest built...100909...is very good...juz a bit slow...hope got anyway to make it run faster ans smoother...wifi work very well and also market...i like it!:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kentooi87:
i found tat gps and bluetooth cant function...and...is hard to connect to network...cant make call during 1st 5mins of startup...camera still didn work...waiting for great success to come from Razva...;-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Vasisualiy:
Does work USSD on HTC Hero? On this port USSD doesn't work. SIM services doesn't work too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Newbie16:
Are the squashfs images any faster?

I've heard mainly anecdotal evidence stating that its slower than cramfs on cupcake builds but as i say no real benchmark numbers. I can't mount squashfs on my desktop so its difficult to modify them

Edit: I used a Virtualbox VM and cramfs to make a new image from the squashfs which is mountable on my host.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
Why would SquashFS be slower than CramFS?

You can find benchmarks of SquashFS vs others if you search.

ex: http://kerneltrap.org/files/PERFORMANCE.README.txt (this is for an older version of squashfs)

SquashFS has better compression than CramFS (= less reads = more speed), is faster, and has optimizations for memory constrained systems.

Both SquashFS and CramFS use zlib compression, but SquashFS supports compression of both the metadata and block fragments while CramFS does not.

It would be even better if the kernel had lzma support...

But, of course, if you compare a CramFS ION system with a SquashFS HERO system, guess which will be faster? ;)

Get SquashFS tools for your desktop...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Newbie16:
Well, since both squashfs and cramfs are compressed formats, you have to read the data and uncompress it to use it, the larger the files get the worse it gets. Every single file that is read has to be uncompressed, only the metadata is left uncompressed (i prefer this). The only place for that uncompressed data is the ram, so consistently read files will end up in ram even if its a single byte :(. The system.img itself is on fat32 which could be fragmented. So i'm exploring possible avenues.

Since we have a slow cpu and little memory i'm trying to use xfs as my root filesystem. Does anyone have a benchmarking tool to fairly stress the cpu+ram+disk at the same time so i can compare the performance?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] blasti99:
I guess you have the wrong idea how compressed filesystems work.. there is no temporary decompressing into ram !

the data is decompressed on the fly. if you start an application it is of course loaded into RAM, but that is also the case for uncompressed filesystems. For an mp3 it is a different story, here data is streamed and therefore the compressed filesystem fetches the compressed blocks and decompresses them right before they are given to the mp3 decoder. the full mp3 is never stored to RAM (except for the general filesystem caching which is standard on Linux)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] GURUGTS:
How's it lookin?

I wish I had more skills on the backend to get this project moving but I don't have a good PC at the moment. What do you guys think the long term look is on getting this thing useable speedwise? Are we talking novelty idea on the Kaiser? Android looks really promising on the XDA platform.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] FloatingFatMan:
As fun as it is to play with, I have doubts that it'll ever be anything other than a novelty on devices not explicitly designed for it. There's WAY to much work involved, far too many devices, and not enough guys with the expertise or TIME to get it working properly.

It's a shame as I really love Android, but with so many devices, so many different hardware configurations, and so many drivers needing to be written almost from scratch in some cases, the only devices it's ever going to be a full OS on, are the ones that are released with it already.

I'm not belittling the people who have done so much work getting Android working as well as it is on different devices, but I'm realistic. They're good, but they can't do EVERYthing.

At most, we may one day see it fully functional on the Vogue, and maybe the Kaiser. And one day, we MAY see a flashable ROM for it; but don't hold your breath.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Razva:
I totally agree. Still...we're all doing our best...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 160bpm:
YES, Don't give up. I haven't the technical skills to help you guys, i only can test the builds :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
I would not recommend a journaling FS, unless you want to burn a hole in your sd card. You can use ext2, which is simple, fast and doesn't have that problem. Current rootfs has support for mounting system from a ext2 partition. Don't remember if it's active. Don't expect performance improvements. SDcard access is slow, and it's faster to read less and decompress.

I've also done some experiments with jffs2...

PS: We don't have a slow cpu. Compressed filesystems are used in much lower end embedded devices with performance gains. It's something advantageous with even with much slower cpus. io speed and storage sizes are usually the worse bottlenecks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] FloatingFatMan:
Absolutely! The work done so far is nothing short of brilliant and everyone who's contributed to it should be damn proud of themselves; especially given how much of an uphill struggle it's been without proper documentation on the device internals.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 160bpm:
Is there no way to change some settings so you can start haret include all the files within a folder?

/sdcard/version100909/

/sdcard/version080809/

etc

so you can start different versions or try a new one and let the current working on you SDcard.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Razva:
Not as far as I know. The files need to be at the root of your card.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Newbie16:
I realised this and i'm using a test sdcard to see how long one would last.

I wanted to take the cpu usage of uncompressing data and give it to ramzswap. If we are loading things into memory then ramzswap is probably busy moving data into its cache.

Without ramzswap we can't keep senseui in memory after launching other apps, and ramzswap allows this but slows the launch of the other apps down because sense ui has to be moved to the swap and back even for just the dialer :(

Edit: What version of ramzswap are we using?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
all experiments are welcomed, of course :)

but a hint: just do a "vmstat" on the device and see where your cpu goes while its doing stuff. (wa stands for: waiting for io)

we are using compcache 5.x

compcache 6.x is not easy to backport to 2.6.25.

Talked with the dEv and he agreed to realease an updated 5.x with some missing features in the mean time...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 160bpm:
A normail usage tip/hint/tweak (maybe everyone knows already)

When you remove the default on TouchFLO in application management

and reboot you can select between normal StartPage of Hero TouchFLO

You can switch between 2 layouts using the wnw button (right of the windows button)

then you can select you want Hero or startPage
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Newbie16:
Well xfs works perfectly for the root partition, the data partition is getting corrupted on shutdown which isn't nice, but its fixed on startup so its ok, i'm moving towards making root read only.

Touch flow seems to work flawlessly, but the browser is next to useless, just too slow. I'll be switching back to cupcake. When switching apps is the slowness is caused by io waits for swap? wa is pretty high, in the 80+ region
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
usually, no. io waits from reading data from the sdcard, mostly.

compcache swap is pretty fast, and i'm almost sure, the operations compcache has to make would not appear as iowait, since we're talking about reading/writing to memory (which is very fast) and compressing/decompressing cpu usage (which is not io waiting).

if you disable compcache and enable swapfile you will notice what happens.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Newbie16:
oh, i had backing swap enabled, it ran well but there was a delay in restarting home if i ran something like the terminal, i don't know how ramzswap works well enough to use it without a backing swap.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] yaniv1512:
help

hi

i got the 6.5 rom on my kaiser

and now i want the hero rom and i cant "install" it

i treid it all !!

i put the files in my sd card , i put the files in the phone

and its same result

i tap run

and its black screen with the Penguin icon on the left

and its write and write and write for an hour and its stuck

please help me !!

yaniv
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] FloatingFatMan:
Well, you're clearly doing something wrong. What EXACTLY have you put on the SD card?

BTW, you can't "install" Android. You just run HARET from the SD Card and it reboots the phone to Android.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] yaniv1512:
help

i downloadd - kaiser-hero-100909

i copy all the files to the root of my sd card

its not what i nedded to do ??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] viperd:
You should read the whole topic, even 10-20 pages before your post because it happened to others too :)

I dont take credit for this advice, but it should solve your problem. ...."delete your current data.img file.

1st boot will take 5+ minutes (not hours). Just be patient."
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] FloatingFatMan:
If you want help, answer the question I asked you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] yaniv1512:
help

i am sury but i didnt found an answer

were do i find this file- data.img

i downloadd the file "kaiser-hero-100909"

from this thread

i open it - inside there is

system

rootjs

initrd

zlmage

haret

hero.user

ion.user

rogers.user

default

and diractory call media

all that
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] yaniv1512:
i pot on root of my sd card
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] FloatingFatMan:
From the kaiser-hero-100909 bundle, you should have the following on your SD card:

media This is a folder

default.txt

haret.exe

hero.user.conf

initrd.gz

ion.user.conf

rogers.user.conf

rootfs.img

system.sqsh

zImage

If the files are not named EXACTLY as I put above, it will not work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
The data.img is created on a new boot of android
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] yaniv1512:
help

I DIDT IT And its not working !

where to put the folder ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] FloatingFatMan:
EVERYTHING goes in the root folder of your SD card, exactly as I posted earlier.

If you're still not getting anywhere, post your default.txt.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] viperd:
I think you are making a small mistake....you should have all those files you listed directly on the root of the SD card.....not inside the folder....go inside the folder and move all those files on the card. You should have them something like this

/SD card

default.txt

haret.exe

hero.user.conf

initrd.gz

ion.user.conf

rogers.user.conf

rootfs.img

system.sqsh

zImage

Media (folder )
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Newbie16:
Final findings:

XFS runs well but its not cleanly shutdown in the hero builds, xfs gets corrupted and has to be repaired. I found that cyanogen's latest cupcake builds have /system/bin/shutdown which i modified to only remount ro / /sdcard and /data:

busybox mount -o remount,ro / 2>&1 > /dev/null;

busybox mount -o remount,ro /sdcard 2>&1 > /dev/null;

busybox mount -o remount,ro /data 2>&1 > /dev/null;

This fixed the data corruption. The latest hero roms have the shutdown scripts, so i think it just needs an update

Edit: still getting corruption
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 160bpm:
Hi Guys,

Why does i never see the "H" for HSPA data connection. On WinMo i have the HSPA as well but in Android i always see the "3G" logo.

Or is this also a little bug that must been solved?

Peter
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] GURUGTS:
Speed

I tried the non Hero version and it seemed faster but didn't have the functional WiFi. That's the biggest problem I think so far.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 160bpm:
Hi Guys,

When you do not use the CLOCK with Wheater then your interface is very fast. I have try this couple of hours.

I do not see anymore the HTC logo to load all the widgets or slow actions when i swap to left or right.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Newbie16:
Its the same thing i found, but if i can't have the clock then i don't want anything else.

I wonder if it would be possible to remove the weather so we just have the big clock, i like the big clock.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
Take out the original HTC weather clock and use the weather widget (donate) from market...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] maxisma:
@The Dev of this ROM:

Look into the Dream android development and look for the thread "Micro Hero"..

It has mega optimized APK's.

Should make the whole thing faster.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Newbie16:
Don't want weather, just the clock, like htc's combo clock but a clock without the weather included
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] YouBou1992:
Mirror !

Mirror ? here you go ^^:

just upped the original file.. didn't edit or smthing ^^

http://rapidshare.com/files/281943659/kaiser-hero-100909.zip

ANOTHER ONE:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FRMUHPIF
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] YouBou1992:
This is the best thing i ever had on my kaiser lol thanks !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kabu:
the only thing i dont like about this hero is its slow i have to wait too long for stuff to load up even going to settings is slow. i will wait for a faster more responsive build to come out awesome job though it looks soo cool.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
pmos zen just posted a micro hero build I hope its the one with the tattoo stuff in it but its giving me errors trying to boot, is there something special that needs done in the code to make it run on the kaiser.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
No problems here. (using basefiles-20090919-v2)

wifi works

data works

very nice hero build indeed. (soon to be blown to bits, of course :D)

The default hero.user.conf could probably use some specific adjustements for this one.

Probably increasing swappiness a bit would be best, but that does not influence the functionality.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] BloodMAge:
code pin error

hello there ,

first thanks for this great post .

but when i go to android i need put the sim code pin .

As window live that work , go to android i have put one time and he ask me code pin failed , then sim cart locked .

but i dont know if i can put the sim code pin in android but as window the code pin work .

some one can ask me how to résolv it ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
FAQ: Disable pin request in Windows Mobile

;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
what you mean blown to bits you know something the rest of us do't maybe something of a little tattoo hopefully,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] BloodMAge:
oh lol i have resolved it myself i have doe that then i have see u reply thanks too .
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] siddesh_0110:
Hi Guys,

I am tryin to install but i couldnt do it.. i pasted the extracted folder into SD card.. and gone to haret n clicked on run.. but this didnt for me..

kindly suggest
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] arvinchugh:
Issues..

Ok i'm first time user of android OS. so dono bout it much.. tried to learn frm forums but still few things aint working out..

1. does dis OS have file explorer??

2. is there a way to sync it with pc? for file transfer?

3. can we add applications and other stuff? if yes how to get them? and how to install them?

4. is dere a way to sync contacts and other things?

5. is dere a video player in this OS?

6. camera, sim manager, bluetooth aint working (just wanna knw if any progress or fix for this is available?)

7. does is runs on windows? or it shut down windows and boots up then..

8 wifi turns on, bt dont detect networks.

thanx for ya reply in advance.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] joroboyvn:
Stuck....

Hey guys! I'm having a problem with the latest build. Can't start at all. It reaches the HTC logo after the boot and does loopbacks. Which user.conf files should I keep and is there anything that has to be done after extracting the .cab file into the root of the SD card? What about the default text file? Any changes? Please help..:confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] FloatingFatMan:
All the files must be in the ROOT of the SD card, NOT inside a folder. The ONLY folder you should have on here is the MEDIA one.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] FloatingFatMan:
1. No. But there are plenty on the Marketplace. Download one.

2. You should be able to use the HTC Sync program.

3. Yes. Marketplace.

4. Yes.

5. Marketplace

6. Camera and Bluetooth are not yet functional. Long known issue, read the FAQs. Some builds have a SIM Manager, some don't.

7. No. HARET shuts down Windows and boots the phone into Android.

8. Wifi works fine, though is build dependent. What build are you using.

9. It's spelt "there", not "dere" :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] FloatingFatMan:
Loop backs? You meant the Hero logo animation keeps cycling? That's usually down to the wrong resolution in your default.txt. Post it up here.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] joroboyvn:
Loop backs

Thanx for the help!!! I just read some previous posts and the problem was the data.img. Anyone having the same problem FIRSTdelete your current data.img file:):)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] BloodMAge:
where is the eclipse ?

hello all i actually use the htc cruise and i have install the programme but i want to make a programme whit my phone and my friend ask me the name programme its " eclipse " cause he have the htc magic and the htc hero .

Where can i download it and where i can have a tuto of this .

i have search on google.com but i found only the android application .

2nd problem

i already have see a another problem whit alarm , i can change the time of the alarm and not the day .

how can i config the alarm time and the day ? need i install a new program or another android ?

3 little question .

where can i found android application working for htc cruise ?

thanks in advance bloodmage .
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] arvinchugh:
few more issue with this..

thanx FloatingFatMan for ur last reply :-)

i dont have net connection in mah cell how can i use marketplace??

i'm using latest build.. when i goto import sim contacts options it just stuck on black screen .. (phone doesn't get hang, just dat application does.) (it does read msgs from sim bt not contacts.)

Led lights dont work properly..

speakerphone dont work...

thanx in advance :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] FloatingFatMan:
If you don't have a data plan, then you can use WiFi to access the internet. If you don't have WiFi access, you're pretty much screwed.

AFAIK, SIM interaction doesn't work too well, so don't expect to be able to get contacts from it. Personally, I transferred all my contacts from Outlook to my Google Mail contact list then synched my phone, but you need a dataplan or WiFi to do that.

Speakerphone not working is in the known issues list. Please read it.

LED's functionality differs from how WM uses them. What's not working?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] daraza:
android is dead i think after the letter from Google.

Also HERO is ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] -Arturo-:
I don't know why but I cannot boot android. All i see is a black screen with linux Penguin and some random data flashing on the screen. It's been like that for the last 15 minutes. No htc logo, no hero logo, just the screen with penguin and data. I've checked default.txt and it's appears to be set up correctly, couldn't delete data.img file since it wasn't in the zip file.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xxbabiboi228xx:
I dont know if anybody else is having this issue im using all the files in the latest basefiles except the rootfs.Im using the htcril rootfs for att/gsm phone.Also using the Zimage fixed audio no bluetooth new keymap.What is happening is when i go 2 make one call after a fresh reboot sound switches from the speaker on the back of the phone from the sound coming out of the speaker that you use when your in a call which is the front Speaker.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] FloatingFatMan:
Might be the radio or WM ROM you're using. Which ones do you have flashed to your device?