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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] edwinrodz25:
Manila 2D on Bare WM 6.5 23034 Cooked Rom

Hi!

I really loved your ROM........all the free space, and the freedom to select the SD card to install all my stuff.....WOW!! :) Just one problem for me.........couldn't get Manila 2D to work.

When I installed it, I wasn't able to select any program at the Launcher Bar, neither select any Contact at the People's Bar.........then I changed the ROM, no problem with Manila. :confused:

Do I need any other .cab or files to enable Manila...........If I can solve this matter, I will be your follower and padawan :D

EdwinRodz
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] luiggi:
here´s one alternativeFingerKeyboard

How about FingerKeyboard http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=501122
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] davewaave:
dialer

Hello, trying the rom, 23034-chocolate. I'm sure I'm missing the obvious, but my dialer is not the dialer that you show in the pictures. What am I doing wrong? I would like to have that dialer. Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dy2592:
That dialer screen I believe is part of the new MS lock screen. So only when you have the device locked, and then recieve a call while its locked, does that screen show up.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Big Foot:
WOW!

Since I have been using cooked ROMS for a while, I have callected a HUGE list of cabs, tweaks, and overall WM knowledge. This bare ROM with the latest build is PERFECT for me because as much as I love TPC, Abu, Anryl, etc., there are often 15-20 apps that are precooked on those ROMS that I will never use, in addition to several minor changes that force you to constantly upgrade. With this, I can always work from a safe and reliable starting point and make my phone my way!!! THANKS!!!

I do have a few questions though:

There are a few apps that I install that prompt with a message saying I need to install NetCF 3.5 (for the most part, those apps work fine regardless). I have a cab for NetCF 3.5 but when I try to install it, I get another prompt saying "there is a later build of NetCF on this device, you must first uninstall this version" but I don't know how or where to uninstall this version.

Also, I have Titanium NEO working on my device, but the Favorite Contacts tab won't let me change the contact list, everytime it loads, I get a message saying "Error, File name 'Microsoft.WindowsMobile.PocketOutlook, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=31BF3856AD364E35' or one of its dependencies, was not found" then it quits.

I also tried to install Yahoo! Go, Bing & Google Navigator, each getting that same message when trying to start programs.

One last thing, I want to change the Driver for this phone, so far I have Neo Open VG, as well as Omnia D3D drivers as cabs, but I'm looking for Opal TI driver and I'm having an impossible time searching for it, a little push would be appreciated!

Thanks for your help and a great ROM idea - LESS IS MORE!!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] witschey:
I am sorry that I am not able to help you troubleshoot the installation of Manila with my ROM. It's not that I don't want to help, but I don't use Manila (never have) so I have no idea why you are having problems installing it. My recommendation would be to download the removed files and see if you can recognize any files/folders that are needed by Manilla which could be causing the problem; then if you find that out you can burn your own version using my source files...simply moving back the missing elements.

If you solve the issue please share the response on this thread, as you are not the only person with this issue.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] witschey:
The dialer you are referring to is not really a dialer! That is the screen that Microsoft makes available to unlock your device (when you lock it from the start menu). It only shows up if you have entered a PIN code for when you lock it. Sorry!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] witschey:
Glad you l like my ROM. The reasons you state above are the same ones I faced, and that is why I had to create my own ROM.

NetCF 3.5 is part of Windows Mobile 6.5. IOW I didn't add that as an EXT or OEM package, it is part of the operating system.

I have about 60 applications installed and none of them asked me to install NETCF 3.5 (because it is already installed!). The behavior that you are describing is very strange indeed, and I haven't faced it, so I can't help you.

You can not uninstall .NET CF 3.5 from a burned ROM because it is part of the operating system. The only thing you could do is burn your own ROM using the files I make available in post #1 and remove the folder with the .NET framework; and then install (as an OEM or EXT package) your own version; and see if that works better for you. The folder name is called NeTCF and since it is part of the operating system you will find it in the Systems Folder.

This sounds like one of your applications is causing an incompatibility and is creating problems on the operating system. I had a similar behavior which I was blaming on the spb Backup restoration, but it turned out to be Resco Keyboard Pro; which was causing all programs to give me memory errors and the like. I don't use any of the programs you mentioned. The closest thing I use is Google Maps (works perfectly) and Tom Tom (works perfectly).

Don't know about Open VG, but D3D will NOT work with this ROM. I hear that it only works on ROMs that do not have the 101 MB hack. I will refer you to the osKitchen thread (you can find it on post #1) where you can ask Ondraster (the maker of the kitchen used to cook this ROM) whether the 101MB version is compatible with those drivers and he or somebody there can point you in the right direction. There was recently a discussion on video drivers, and that is where I know that the D3D drivers do not work with 101 MB ROMs; however somebody else on that tread claims to have made it work, but only if he removed some other drivers, so I strongly suggest you go there. The discussion about video drivers was a day or two ago, so you should easily find it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] witschey:
Thanks for the suggestion. I am currently testing EzInput, and it is very nice. Works on this build of WM, etc. However I can't seem to change the layout to full QWERTY on portrait mode; no matter what I do.

I will give your suggestion a shot, but before I do can you please confirm that it is working for you with build 23034?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] witschey:
Recommended Keyboards for this ROM.

As I mentioned before Resco Keyboard Pro v 5.22 doesn't work with build 23034 of WM 6.5 (and therefore it doesn't work with this ROM).

I went out searching for alternatives and I came across EZInput and FingerKeyboard.

After evaluating both alternatives in combination with this ROM, I have decided to keep FingerKeyboard 2.1

Both versions work with this ROM, so it is up to you to decide whether you want to replace the build in keyboard with one of these two alternatives. I chose FingerKeyboard 2.1 because EZInput didn't allow me to change use FULL QWERTY on portrait orientation of my Kaiser. Theoretically it should be possible, but it doesn't work. Whether it is a bug that applies only to this build or to the Kaiser or ATT Tilt (regardless of built) I don't know.

Fingerkeyboard is so nice that in all honesty I may not return to the Resco Keyboard Pro even after they fix the problem.

IMPORTANT: FingerKeyboard 2.1 works great on build 23034 of WM 6.5, but after installing SIPChange v1.1 the operating system reacted in a very strange way. If you want to make FingerKeyboard your default keyboard that boots after a soft reset use SK Tools to make it the default keyboard as explained here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=513023

The method described on that website works perfectly and doesn't cause the strange unresponsive behavior that I got after installing SIP change v 1.1
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] luiggi:
I´m sorry I got back late to answer that, evidently you did it by yourself. I think is a good piece of software.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] witschey:
Yes, thanks for the suggestion. I liked it. The only thing is that after installing it I am noticing that my kaiser navigation keys and the scroll button sometimes do not work.

Did you use the SIP program to enable this keyboard as a default (I did). If you did, how many seconds did you setup in there?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] teorouge:
EDIT: problem solved, sorry for the trouble
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] slimshadee:
I see in the first post that you have disabled the honeycomb start menu...how can I re-enable this? Is it possible without re-cooking?

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] witschey:
If you download the source files, configuration files, and the OndraSter kitchen you will be able to select in the EXT folder the honey comb, and burn your own ROM (using my bare ROM files) Just make sure you deselect the 'list start menu' as both of them can not coincide at the same time.

As to whether it is possible install it after the fact, I am not really sure. For that you will have to do a search for 'honey comb' in xda-developers.

BTW Microsoft removed the Honeycomb several versions ago, so it is not available anymore even from them. They replaced it by a start menu where the icons are placed in the same location that they would be if there was a honey comb, but they removed the honeycomb background effect.

However I have the files in the source files that allow you to re-enable that honey comb effect....but they are in an EXT format, so they are ready to be cooked. If you are good with this type of things you could download the source files, find the hexagon folder in the EXT subdirectory, and try to put together your cab from that EXT package. Good luck!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] slimshadee:
Wow...thanks for the detailed explanation; however, I should have been more clear in my question (sorry!)...I really meant that I would like to revert to the standard WM 6.5 start menu, in lieu of the list one you have. I never liked the honeycomb one in particular, anyway, lol. The one I want is the 3 column, staggered rows of icons, just in case I'm not clear enough. Is there a way to re-enable this w/o cooking?

Sorry again!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] witschey:
If you were to burn a new ROM using the files I provide in post #1 you could get the default layout by simply deselecting the List Start Menu choice in the EXT tab of the kitchen.

However since you want to try doing it without having to burn a new ROM you can try to replace the start menu CPR files. I have enclosed the default ones. However I am not sure if the operating system will allow you to replace those files. Since the files were burnt as part of the ROM they may be 'untouchable'. You can try....

In case you don't know both of these CPR files would go into the Windows directory on your PPC.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mvmpy:
Hey Witschey, just wanted to ask, will you consider cooking the new WM build 23036 or 23037?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mcfarlan:
Try the options in TPC Tweaks Folder. I was able to install the DJKOA NoComb cab without any issues
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] witschey:
It seems that Microsoft is releasing new builds every few days, and with builds 23036 and 23037 I haven't heard of any improvements or changes relative to 2303; therefore I am not planning to cook builds based on those ROMs.

I would only change my mind if somebody were to discover a revolutionary new feature or a major problem improvement.

Right now I am just getting back to a functioning system with 23034; and even then I still have a lot of problems to sort through. Problems that relate to some applications not installing on 23034 (two out of approximately 60 that I use), some applications not closing properly (because the X was moved to bottom bar), some applications not allowing me to select menu choices because Microsoft made the bottom bar bigger and now it covers the menu of the other application, etc.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mvmpy:
Got it. Thank you. I will start reading about cooking and so maybe I will give it a try.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Baly23:
i'm using showcase, a task manager that, when you click on the right-top corner, show a bar with 3 choice: minize, close, open task manager (showcase).

it's wonderful!

the worst think it's that in portrait mode, there the showcase icon that cover the watch, but doesn't metter ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mcfarlan:
In shwcase settings you can hide the icon. You still see the clock but no Showcase icon in the right top corner. Click on the corner and it still activates.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] witschey:
Thanks for the recommendation. It does look like a very nice task manager, but in build 23034 when I click on the top right hand corner I can see the tree menu choices that you mention only for a split second, and then they are gone. I am not able to select from among the choices. Is this something that is only specific to build 23034 and upwards?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] witschey:
Have you tried using showcase with WM 6.5 build 23034 (or later)? If so, could you take a screen shot of the how you have your 'Showcase Settings' configured.

No matter what combination of choices I select I can't get it to work properly.

The showcase top right trigger area only seems to work if I choose to enable the 'Start X enhancement', and the choices presented by that enhancement menu don't seem to show up properly on build 23034. They pop up for a fraction of a second, which means that they do not allow me to make a choice.

Can anybody tell me if they have figured out how to get showcase to work with build 23034?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mcfarlan:
Sorry, I flashed to another Rom already but, in the Showcase settings, I checked all three checkboxes - Close Button on the Right, Small Tap Area, and Hide Homescreen Icon. I had also installed SDKCerts and PDA Corner Battery Icon. I then did a soft-reset and everything was fine. If I click on the top right where the clock is, Showcase would display. Note that this is version 1.0.1
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] TomH123:
Is there a setting to get the backlight brighter on the inlock screen? The screen is very dim while I have to enter the pin number to unlock the screen and in the sunlight it can be very difficult to see the numbers to enter the pin. Once it's unlocked the normal "on battery" settings take effect and I can view the screeen just fine. It seems that setting doesn't apply to the unlock screen? Maybe I'm the only one having this issue?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] witschey:
I have no problem displaying showcase, but I can't get the top tree choices (minimize, close, taskbar) to display in a way that I can select the one I want.

Anyway, I asked the question in the developer's thread and after a little argument with one of those idiots that tries to play 'thread police' in discussions that are not theirs, I reached the conclusion that the developer needs to update the software to be compatible with build 23034 and later; and that he doesn't want to do it yet until he sees some stability in the layout of WM 6.5

I don't blame him. The daily updates to the OS by Microsoft are driving me absolutely crazy. I have decided that I will only create a new build of WM 6.5 about once a month or so; regardless of Microsoft's release frequency. The team behind WM 6.5 development seems to be out of control. I like the changes they are making, but releasing new versions to the public every few days just doesn't seem logical. When you want to collect feedback from the testers you need to provide some structure to the process, and that normally involves giving time to the testers to really try your new builds. It is ridiculous to expect testers to trully try a new build (with 3rd party software and all) in a day or two.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] witschey:
Sorry, but I don't know if such a setting exists. I would suggest asking that question on the following forum which is frequented by people with a lot more 'under the hood' experience.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=544445
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mcfarlan:
Screen Shots

@witschey....I reloaded your Rom and set it up the way I had before. I had stated previously, Showcase 1.0.1b works for me...

Edit: I get you...I get the three choices individually, but have no control over which option shows up when I select. I have not played with that too much, but will take a look.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] witschey:
Thanks a lot for going through the trouble of reloading my ROM and setting it up the way you had it before.

I setup my Showcase the same way you show me in the screen shots, and I can also activate the task manager in the way you describe. However I can not switch between the choices shown on the top bar.

If you look at the screen shots below, several choices are shown on the taskbar (at the very top of the screen). You can see those in the screen show because I am pressing on the top right hand corner while I take the screen shot. However as soon as I remove the stylus (to move to the left and select one of the choices) the choices disappear, which means that I can not select any of them (except the default one which is the one shown on the right). Do you experience the same problem?

By the way, I like the wallpaper image you are using. Is there anyway that you could post a copy?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mcfarlan:
Yeah...I have the same problem...as soon as you lift the stylus, that's it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] witschey:
Thanks for confirming that we both have the same issue; and thank a lot for the wallpaper!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] witschey:
Version 2 of Bare WM 6.5 build 23034 is available for download

You can dowload version 2 from post #4
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] PPCBANDIT:
Thanks - looking forward to try the new version
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jeka777:
There is any possibility to see "Vanilla" screenshots?

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] witschey:
The Vanilla flavour is identical to the Chocolate flavor but doesn't include the 6 item Communication Manager (uses the one that Microsoft installed by default), and the standard battery indicator. NOTHING else changes.

If you want to see the standard battery indicator and the standard communication manager then check out the vanilla flavor ROM pictures here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=550256

The communication manager and standard battery indicator on this ROM are identical to the 23038 vanilla pictures shown there.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mjcalvey:
Great ROM

I've tried out a lot of different ROM's but this one is one of my favorites. I like how clean and simple it is. I also prefer the new layout for 6.5 with the start and X icons at the bottom. I haven't seen many other ROM's use this version though - is it compatible with Touch Flo or other apps, or does the new layout cause incompatibilities with those programs?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] witschey:
If I knew I would tell you, but I don't use Touch Flo or any other Shell. I switched from WM 6.1 to WM 6.5 because I wanted to get rid of third party Shells so that I could have more RAM available; and less confusion between one shell and the other.

Windows Mobile 6.5 allows you to customize Titanium in many different ways, and even the Start Menu can be changed a bit (for example in this build I chose the Single List layout as opposed to the honey comb or honey comb like patterns. So I don't have a need for a shell; hence I haven't tried any and I can't tell you how it would work with it.

As to other third party applications, I use about 60 applications on my phone, of which only 3 didn't allow me to install them with the normal executable file. However I managed to copy the files from an old backup, create a cab file and the problem was solved.

The only problem that the new layout of builds 23028 and upwards present is that some applications were programmed in a very 'inflexible' way and part of their menu is covered by the new bottom toolbar of WM 6.5. The other problem is that some applications were coded in a way that they relied on the X button on the top right hand corner, and since that was moved to the bottom bar now, they have no close button at all. To solve that problem you need to assign the task manager to a key (I use the PTT key) so that you can invoke the task manager and close the application when you are done.

All those problems will be solved by future releases of the problematic 3rd party software; but it will take a little while before they release new versions, since WM 6.5 is not yet officially launched. I read somewhere that Oct 1st is the date....we'll see if this new date sticks though.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] witschey:
Update Titanium Notifications - QVGA Customized

Updated: Titanium Notifications - QVGA Customized

Just a short note to let you guys/gals know that I have updated the Titanium Notifications plugin. You can read all the details, see screen shots and download the cab file here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4431468&postcount=192
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mcfarlan:
don't know what else you did but V2 Chocolate seems a lot smoother and faster than V1. Good going. Any plans for 23041?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] witschey:
Glad you liked it. Not thinking about 23041 right now because moving from 23028 to 23034 took me a LOT of time and effort (restoring settings of software, and the like).

However if 23041 or a later build solves ALL of the following glitches in 23034 I will jump in and make a new ROM.

- Setting screens that do not fit on the screen (and hence require weird scrolling).

- Stylized selection circles instead of the ugly WIP that they left on 23034 (for example volume dialog)

- Calendar detailed view of entries that show up properly (right now it is sometimes difficult to read the whole sentence without scrolling or moving cursor)

Another great enticement (but not a must have) that would entice me to release a new ROM would be if Microsoft finally releases the media player controls for the lock screen. Right now the layout has hidden codes for it, and there is even images in the original source files; but they do not work. Either Microsoft plans to release a new Media Player that is compatible with the controls or there is some dll missing to make the controls work. Very much looking forward to that new feature.

Hope my first 3 critical points are solved soon. I hate having a ROM that regularly reminds me that it is WIP; and the layout defects do that for me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mcfarlan:
I hear you about the improvements. Never noticed the Calendar issue since one of the first things I install is Thumbcal. Did you sort out the SIP issue? I have been using "qvga EZinput2-NoArrow" version with absolutely no issues so far....this one http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=531315