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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] heygrl:
I'm using the broswer that came with the phone which is 9.7. If Opera/IE is slow try Skyfire, it's faster.

Try different roms/update to this newest radio. Works good for me.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] qqa92:
Ok, will do, thx. I just tried downloading a file that I usually get atleast 500kb/sec download speeds downloading with my cable connection on my PC and using Internet Connection Sharing on my TP2 I was only able to get about 68k/sec on the same file download. Is that a typical download speed for 3G? When I load pages such as microsoft.com and yahoo it seems like I'm using dialup internet.

Yeah, maybe the .17 or the .57 radio's will do better.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] heygrl:
T-Mobile is in the process of upgrading 3G speeds, so 60-90kB's down is normal for now, before I used to get that and now I get 180-220kB but that's due to something done on T-Mobile's end. It's going to be even faster when 7.2HSPA is turned on and 21 mbps HSPA+ is online in the middle of the year.. hang tight.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] qqa92:
Ahhh, ok, thx. Do you think that flashing to .17 or .57 will be a waste of time then or is it possible that I may see some improvement?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
I noticed an improvement in GPS satellite-acquisition time in switching to 4.49.25.17 from the stock TmoUSA radio-rom...so that would be a reason to switch independent of whatever Tmo does to data speeds.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] qqa92:
Ok, cool. Good to know, thx.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] heygrl:
Reception is also improved too
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] isscccom:
yup.. reception improved alot. i am using 4.49.25.57 radio now
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
It's showing that it's got an HSDPA (high-speed) connection.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] qqa92:
Ok. This is all pretty surprising to me since I thought that 3G was supposed to have a certain standard speed to be considered 3G but it sounds like the carriers can call it whatever they want and have it at any speed they want without clueing their customers in on that fact when you purchase their services. One thing that comes to mind is that a co-worker of mine told me over two years ago that he was using his 3G phone to share internet with his PC and was at times downloading files at 700-800K per second! I didn't believe him at first but over time realized that he was pretty knowledgable about this stuff and his college job was selling cell phones at Radio Shack so he knew what he was talking about and here I am as of a few weeks ago all excited that I will finally be able to browse the net on my phone without all the slowness and I feel like I've been ripped off. Anyone else had this happen to them after switching to 3G?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
3G should be faster than plain old GSM in general. HSDPA is a 3G enhancement that is even faster, with potential speeds up to 14 Mbit/sec (though much less in practice), depending on your carrier's capability (e.g. Vodafone UK provide up to 7.2 Mbit and are working on the 14 Mbit part at the moment). Standard 3G is up to about 2Mbit in theory (though again, a lot less in practice).

You might already know this, but bear in mind that the 700-800 K per second figure you were talking about is almost certainly in bytes per second, so is equivalent to 5-6 Mbit/sec. Your friend can't have been getting those rates on a plain 3G connection, it if was just 3G then perhaps a load of it was cached and it was giving a false rate ?

Plain GSM using GPRS is going to give a maximum data rate of around 0.1 Mbit/sec, so 3G is a lot faster, even without HSDPA.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] heygrl:
700/800 kb/sec 2 years ago? I don't buy it. Maybe 700-800kbps, which is exactly what you're getting now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] qqa92:
Hmm, well than that must have been what it was. Truthfully I wouldn't have anyway of knowing for sure.

I flashed to .57 radio and tried the download again and was getting 88k on one download. GPS satellite aquisistion seemed much faster as you said too MCbrian so thats cool.

Wonder how long it will take T-Mobile to increase data speeds? Anyone know what their time line is for that?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] qqa92:
Thanks for that, very informative. I need to do some reading on all of this to get up to speed. Honestly when my co-worker told me that I thought he was coming to work high because the best my cable connection could do at the time was 800kb per second and averaged around 660kb. But he insisted that it was 700-800kb per second because as a former employee of Radio Shack he had some sort of special account that allowed him to use the phone for data connections to his laptop and he was able to get those speeds. I now see that that must have been some good weed. :-D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] heygrl:
The entire network 3G network should have 7.2mbps HSPA by the end of Q3 2010, though most if not all will be lauched before hand(they said it would be online by the end of this year but it aint, and they're shooting for Q1 2010 so it's safe to say Q3 2010 will be the date), HSPA+ will start launching too but that's not going to be nearly as widespread as 7.2mbps HSPA initally.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] qqa92:
Well, I guess thats not too long off then. Good to know, thx.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] joshkoss:
Hey guys, anyone have time to take over this thread? I can put you in control of the first couple posts.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DaveShaw:
If you have an unneeded post older than the First Post that is ;).

Dave
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] CLShortFuse:
I have an AT&T Tilt 2. I just got it today in the mail and it has Radio version 4.48.25.20

How can I rip it so I can upload it? I know there's a Topaz version but this is the Rhodium version that doesn't need a security unlocked phone
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] crachel:
That radio is already available in wpbear's 4shared folder linked in his signature here. Though, I haven't flashed it myself.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pntballking01:
So I'm located in Georgia on the east coast of the U.S... is there a general consensus as to which radio will provide me with the fastest connections?

Which would be better for an east-coast based tmobile user?

.17 or the newest .57
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kk0813:
I am in east coast with ATT, I tried .17 and my signal was very good, but my internet speed and gps lock was slow. Then I flashed .57, and now the signal is very good, and at the same time, I have better internet speed and gps lock. But for you it may not be same as you are with t-mobile, but you can try both.

Hope this helps.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] spiro:
quote: "Then I flashed .57, and now the signal is very good,"

do you mean .27? I dont find .57 anywhere

also does anyone know where to get the RILPHONE.DLL for this radio? (4.49.25.27 - Newest)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
.57 is up here. It's just that the sticky here hasn't been updated yet ;)

As for the RILPHONE.DLL, you can't get that separately, you'll have to use whatever is cooked into your ROM. So try out some radios with your ROM and see what works best for you.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] spiro:
Thanks, at least Im not blind! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] spiro:
Thanks, Ill try it. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rich2thad:
what radio would you guys recomend for a california tmobile?

im currently on tha 4.49.25.05 and its not bad but i just downloaded the .57 going to try that but would like input on wats the best one for northern cali tmobile.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] joshkoss:
@mccune Threads all yours.. Have fun! :D:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
Thank you joshkoss!

Updated the first post right away. Readers please let me know if something needs to be added! Only could find two radio's that you could not find in the first post. Also modified the part about the rilphone.dll file.

Should be up-to-date again...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sumflipnol:
Could you possibly change the name of the newest .27 radio (according to the first post)? The file itself contains the .57 radio in it, and that confuses a lot of people new to the radio business.:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Can we add the .57 radio link please ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
Updated first post. Please let me know if you know about any mirrors. So I can add them to the first post.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Edit - Never mind, my mistake.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
Joshkoss just gave me the first few posts yesterday. Revamped the first post and hope it's more clear now. Please comment or provide additional URL's if you have any!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Looks good, but a load of them should be 4.49, not 3.49 :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
Thank you. Fixed....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bundin:
Good to see that the first post is actively managed again :) Cheers for the effort mccune.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
FWIW: 4.49.25.57 seems to be the new official TmoUSA radio rom. It's included in the official WM6.5 TmoUSA rom leaked this morning.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] samsat:
Im using the stock ROM 1.19.421.1 and the stock radio 3.45.25.21.

GPS fix (using Turbo GPS) in less than 30 seconds, even indoors. Faster than any of my Garmins or my old Kaiser.

Battery life is down to about 50% after two days with 3G email be checked every two hours, some phone calls and BT on 24/7 with a bit of WiFi now and again on full power.

No complaints this side.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] veinslay:
could you upload the radio rom, please? :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] romeo0119:
That's impossible, the 8925 came out way before tmobile deploy their 1700/2100 aws, that phone does not have 1700/2100, there is no way it would worked on tmobile. Unless he got a really special 8925. It's the hardware n not the software that enable u to pick up 3g signal from tmobile. He may have somehow modified the edge to 3g icon to fool u.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] biscuits1978:
I really don't think he had a Tilt working on T-Mobile US 3G. That was my last phone, and it never switched to 3G in the same areas my TP2 gets 3G.

The Tilt does not have a radio that operates in the same 3G frequencies as T-Mobile's. Edge service works fine on the Tilt for T-Mobile US service, but not 3G. This has been confirmed with several users with unlocked Tilts using T-Mobile US service.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] romeo0119:
LOL you forgot to mention the fuze too, he said that the Att Fuze works on Tmobile 3g, false!!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ssuukk:
I used CellID feature of gProfile (change phone parameters depending on location) with stock ROM. I upgraded to EnergyROM and now this feature is unavailable. Do you think it is connected with wrong radio?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nilezon:
I'm having some troubles with my HSDPA GPRS connection dropping, and want to try some different radios. Now I'm having stock ROM with 3.44.25.27 radio. Which one do you suggest I try out next?

Question: Will installing hard-spl and a new radio hard reset my device?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DaveShaw:
Hard SPL won't Hard Reset your phone, flashing the radio can do. Make surer you use the Custom RUU by udk to flash it and you'll be fine.

Ta

Dave
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] drawflex:
i just saw the '4.46.25.24 - HTC' radio rom on the first post but cant find any info about it.... is it a GSM radio , and if so , what's changed ???
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] batista70:
I'm using this Radio, better fix, the signal seems to be better sometimes.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mika34:
Sorry to be a NOB but can somebody just answer on my questions?

1. If i flashed new Radio do i have to do something with rilphone.dll? or just flashed and thats it?

2. If I flashed new Radio and after that in sometime flashed new ROM do I have to flash Radio again?

3.

I cant see any rilphone.dll cab in those radios. Will someone explain me this? Its magic so far for me.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] batista70:
1 - if there is a rilphone.dll better otherwise you can however flash the Radio

2 - No, usually no one includes the Radio in ROMs cooked
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] smaberg:
Yes GSM/3G, way better WiFi, much better GSM signal, 3G -don't know yet, better accuracy on GPS (feels like faster lock).

And battery life is the best yet for any radio, no doubt.. :)

I RECOMEND THIS RADIO.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ninja.rogue:
I concur on this.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skorp:
Better and faster fix

With my stock rom (3.46.25.30) and my phone flat on the table inside my house i did not get a lock in igo8, even after 15 minutes still no fix. (only 2 to 4 sats found).

After i updated the radio to 4.46.25.24 and putting it back on the table at the same spot i had a fix within 30 seconds with 8 or more sats.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] doublecheese:
I had the Original stock Radio for Rhodium , everything was OK

Then I upgraded to radio 3.46. about two weeks ago , the 3G signals dropped dramatically.

Today I upgraded to 4.46.25.24 , my 3G signals are finally almost perfect. In my bedroom I could barely get 1 3G signal, now I have 2 signals constantly

Also I tried the GPS and it works flawlessly.

Sim Free Touch pro 2 bought from Clove.UK and being used in Istanbul
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] samsat:
The stock radio in my TP2 is 3.45.25.21 it's working really well compared to any radio that I tried in my Kaiser.

I would like to try some of the other radios posted in this thread but want to be able to revert back to 3.45.25.21 if required. I cant find this radio anywhere on the web.

How can I dump this radio from my TP2?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] veinslay:
after a bit while of testing, 4.46.25.24 is the best one so far

quick GPS fix, good 3G signal as well
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cd993:
hi, does the 4.46.25.24 have a required rilphone.dll file for it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ducvader:
I was using the 3.44.25.27 rom with a GPS patch. Took 3 minutes to get a gps lock on iGO8.

4.46.25.24 rom with the GPS PATCH ( Not sure if the patch works with this radio) but notice a huge difference in lock times. Took 30 seconds! WOW! Best Radio yet.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
Isn't that the same as the current latest on the first page?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] heygrl:
That is beyond awesome, now I don't have to worry about it. It is really good.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Yeah -- I didn't mean that the radio-rom itself was new, just that inclusion in the (leaked/pre-)official WM6.5 rom package meant that TmoUSA considers it their new official radio-rom.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Yeah so we can add "T-Mobile" against the .57 radio in the first posting :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
Changed it in the first post. Was thinking if it would be useful to add: "Release region: USA, UK, Europe, Other" to the radio's in the first post. But therefore I would also need your help since I can't find out the release location of all radio's myself ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Well, if it helps, HTC released 4.49.25.17 with their official Europe 6.5 ROM. Vodafone UK released 3.44.25.27 with their official 6.5 release, and then 4.49.25.17 later on also in the UK.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hixmatt:
@wpbear

I tried to use your automated exe file to install the 4.49.25.17 radio, however it would not work in Win7. Just curious to see what platform it was designed for. I do have administrator privileges on the PC I attempted this on. The extractor came up, but it kept giving an error message, and I could not locate the nbh or customruu files anywhere on my computer. I have since flashed using SD card and deleted the exe file, so my apologies for not being able to give a screenshot of the error message. Just wondering if you or anyone else had run into this problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hixmatt:
Update:

Went to flash 4.49.25.57 using the exe, and the same error message came up:

"Windows cannot access the specified device, path, or file. You may not have the ppropriate permissions to access the item.", with ...\customRUU.exe in the title bar of the popup.

Still don't know why it says this, as I am an admin on my computer.

Workaround: before hitting OK on this popup, navigate with file explorer to the Temp path displayed and both the nbh and customRUU files are there. If you hit OK, that whole directory folder deletes. Hope this helps someone else if they run into the same problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
You need to extract the CustomRUU.exe and the radio .nbh file to the same directory. Then when you run the .exe it will be ok.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] r34p3rex:
Anyone tried out the newest .57 rom yet? Any improvements over .17?

Also, I know it's a Tmobile Radio ROM, but it should work on Tilt 2's right (for 850/1900 UMTS)?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Quite a few people using it if you look back the thread at people asking about it. I'm running it, but not on Tilt 2, but I don't see any reason why it shouldn't (since that's still GSM).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] blopez24:
I tried it but i couldnt recieve my mms. It would cripple the download process for the mms, so i went back to .17.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
Added release regions to the first post.. ..please let me know if you have more information. The more we gather the more information I can post in the first post ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xredjokerx:
personally, in the San Francisco bay area, i've experienced worse reception with .57 than with .17

so im sticking to .17 :P
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hixmatt:
Yes, they were both extracted to the same temp directory, however when the extractor program went to call on the customRUU.exe to run, the error message popped up. I found the directory before acknowledging the error popup, and the customRUU.exe and radio.nbh files were both present. At that point I copied the nbh file and flashed it via SD card. But yes, I could have copied both files to desktop and ran it via activesync. But in my experience, clicking OK on the error popup deleted both files and stopped the extractor program.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] plfinch:
Quick Question - Radio ROM Upgrade via uSD

When upgrading the Radio ROM via the uSD card method, do I still name the file RHODIMG.nbh or is there a different name that should be used given it is a radio ROM and not the main phone ROM I am upgrading? Or does the name not matter?

Peter
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
As far as I know you do need to name it RHODIMG.nbh Because you device looks for that specific file when entering the bootloader.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hixmatt:
I can confirm this.. Did this twice today, so RHODIMG.nbh still applies as in ROM flashing..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] plfinch:
Ok. Thanks. Installed .57 on an OEM Tilt 2. Can confirm the importance of having the uSD formatted FAT32 (DOH!). Everything working fine so far.

Peter
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] CB620:
Been Using .57 For About a Month Now. Better Reception And Call Quality. No Complaints.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
Read on HTCPedia that the latest radio for the Rhodium seems to be: 4.49.25.88

Link is added to the first post...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pumpiron579:
Just flashed the new radio. GPS is as fast as .55, and 27. everything seems to work great. Will report back about Battery Drain.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wpbear:
added .88 to my 4shared
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wpbear:
These are WinRAR Self Executables which extract both files to a temp dir then autorun customruu.exe

I use Win 7 Pro as an admin and it works on both my PCs
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
Thank you! Added to the first post. This thread seems to be alive again after many weeks! ;-)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Thread has been alive all along...just without adult supervision :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
You are right... ...just got carried away a little. Call it tech enthusiasm LOL
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dky500:
AT&T Tilt 2 Radio

Stock radio 4.48.25.20. I'm in Northern California, Monterey Peninsula and getting terrible reception, particularly with data connection which is very erratic. It seems to constantly lose signal and difficult to re-connect. Anyone have any suggestions for a better radio to try? Or is it an AT&T issue?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wpbear:
try 4.49..25.17
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sumflipnol:
I agree with wpbear. The .17 radio seems to be the best overall for everyone. I have yet to try the newest .88 radio.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dky500:
Thanks guys I'll give it a try.

FYI, I tried the .88 and there was no improvement.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] [SMAN]:
mccune, can you put a date in the title of this thread so people will know when a new radio comes out? I didn't even know about 88 until i randomly clicked on this thread.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
I could but I don't know the release dates. That's why I included "Current latest release". Will add it to this radio. Let me know if you know any other release dates...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] [SMAN]:
No, i mean in the title of the thread. Like a (latest Radio 1/10/09) on the end, so that when your looking in the rom dev section, you don't have to click on the thread to know if htere is a new radio.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
Consider it done sir!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bulls-eye1:
I thought ROM 1.93 is for the Diamond? Or is there a 1.93 ROM for the Pro2 as well?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
This information is from Ark_N who posted it on HTCPedia. Don't know where he actually got it from. Have to say that I haven't seen any 1.93 for the Rhodium as well!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] CB620:
Downloaded .88 I Have Clear Calls And Better Reception. WIll Report Back Also.