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[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] bilal671:
I decided to try upgrade the radio but am failing miserably.

Have Hard-spl my device and thats all fine.

I want to upgrade to 4.49.25.17. The odler radio roms are .rar and inside there is a .nbh file. These all work and if i go to upgrade with custom ruu it is detected however i didnt do the final step.

However the 4.49.25.17 is a .exe file. If i try to just run the .exe file i get it being detected etc, when i click upgrade it says, "upgrade from image version: 1.39.405.2 to image version: 1.00.000.0."

So i assume thats wrong.. if i rename the .exe file to TOPAIMG.nbh and then run custom ruu then it just says wrong file.

I assume its something stupid im not doing, any ideas anyone?

Thanks :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] adigraham:
Delete or move the .nbh from the sdcard root, run the .exe on your pc.

Check in the phone under settings device information before and then after to see if the radio worked :) - any probs just ask!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] lgj1139:
It is wonderful! We can keep a looking at the newest vision of TOPAZ
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] bilal671:
Thank u adigraham :), installed and working :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] adigraham:
Your welcome buddy .. got me itching now .. maybe i'll try duttys rom today!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mossywell:
Nope 4.49.25.17 for me was rubbish - stuck to the 3G network as well as a can of WD40. I know it's sacrelligiuos to say this in these parts - and I'll probably have to ROM Police knocking on my door - but I've gone back to the stock radio: 3.43.25.19. Works much better for me.

:)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] deechte:
I have the same behaviour here in the Netherlands. It has always been like that for me on all radio ROM's, even was like that on my previous pda.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] DaBountyHunter:
Has anyone had issues with the new 4.49.25.17 radio and streaming radio?? I'm using Kinoma Play and find that occasionally when listening to some live365 stations it justs cuts out after 1minute didn't seem to do that with previous radios...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Leetmu:
Amazing thread, first time flashing radio, worked fine and confirmed runnign latest 4.49.25.17. Thanks allot guys. Now for the ROM :D

Also, i will reply back soon with my findings on this radio over stock. Cheers
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Pete_S:
I reluctantly have to agree with you after flashing back to the stock radio too. My findings:

3.43.25.19. - Not very good in poor signal area. Sometimes goes AWOL and radio has to be restarted. But, data channel more often than not remains active when moving between cells.

4.49.25.17.- Better in poor signal areas, hangs on for longer. Seems more stable, doesn't get into the "can't find any signal" state even when there should be 4 bars. But, data link often lost between cells, even though it still shows above the signal bars as remaining active. Annoying, because you keep having to manually disconnect data and reconnect again, nothing else seems to work. Very irritating when travelling on the train through multiple cells.

The difference in sensitivity of 3G isn't that great between the oldest and newest ROMs, after allowing for the artificially higher reading on the bar-graph of the newest one. It means the data connection remains active for a little bit longer when you're leaving a cell, but useless because you often loose that data link when entering the new cell's coverage.

At the risk of getting boring: the problem strikes me as occuring between cells in different groups, or whatever the cellular term is. When you move within cells of the same group there doesn't seem to be a problem with either the stock or the latest ROM. But moving between different groups is better with the old ROM. I lost data connection only once tonight on my journey home from central to outer London. With the latest ROM it would have been at least 3 times.

This is with T-mobile, in the UK, around London - I fully accept someone on a different network, elsewhere in the world might have a completely different experience.

As I've seen little other difference between newest and oldest ROMs (GPS is just as crap with either, bluetooth a2dp streaming is the same) I'm reluctantly sticking with the oldest ROM for now,though I will try "new releases" and report back if I find them improved.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] agent.m:
Re: 4.49.25.17

this is the strongetst radio i've used so far. Usually get 2bars the most in my house but get 3 and sometimes 4 bars depending where i am.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] pauln:
I have the same problem. Sometimes I have a data conection but don't work.

This 3-4 bars seems don't have realy link with the real signal strenght.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Digital.Diablo:
Thats interesting that you report problems with the data calls - I get exactly the same issue whilst travelling around the West Midlands in a car. Its not just the Topaz, but my old Ameo did exactly the same thing, and it seems to be down to certain cells. I wonder if its just T-Mobiles cell-cell handoff being crap or if its the WinMo HTC radio's in general that are rubbish.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Pete_S:
I agree that certain cells are always a problem. Very occasionally they work seamlessly for data when you're handed off to them, 95% of the time they don't. I tend to blame the network, but still have the suspicion that WinMo (rather than the Topaz) plays a part in it too. After all, if you get data back after disconnecting and reconnecting, surely it was potentially there all along if the handoff had been successful? I wish I had a Nokia to try.

Before I got the Topaz my data sim was in a t-mobile Huawei USB stick, and I remember downloading a large file (80Mb) on the same journey through the same cells successfully without a break. Mind you, that was almost a year ago and the network has got slower and busier since.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] varungujjar:
Hey.. .31 worked for me..

From India Using Vodaphone... 4....31 wrks gr8 .. thkx.. guyz
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] bilal671:
I've installed the new 4.49.25.17 radio on, coming from the stock one. Signal wise its better. But gps signal is abit weird, for some reason the tomtom seems behind now. As in if a road is coming on the left, as i cross it in real life, on the tomtom it appears a couple of seconds after.

With the old rom i never had this problem, the road would appear on the left on the tomtom exactly as i crossed the road in real life. Has anyone else had this problem?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cokeyblokey:
I'm on o2 in the UK, currently using Shadowlines 6.5.1, Manilla 2.5 ROM and I seem to have different results with 4.49.25.17. My data connection using this radio is the most stable it's ever been. I've always had problems with the data connection, on all radios I've tried. I was constantly having to 'terminate data connection' to make it work, as although the device was reporting the data as open and running it wasn't working. Since switching to this radio yeaterday I've not had to restart the connection at all and that's with two 35 mile journeys to and from work!

Incidently, the original radio that shipped with my device (3.43.25.19) won't work at all with data on the Shadowline ROM.

As for signal strength and GPS, they both seem to be acceptable. I haven't yet tried TomTom or Garmin so can't comment on lag yet (as per post above). I always had a small amount of lag with TomTom, with all radios tried but most on the original 3.43.25.19. Garmin has always been less laggy. Will try them both later and report back tomorrow.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cokeyblokey:
I've now tested out TomTom and Garmin on 4.49.25.17 and both worked well. Tested them on a 35 mile journey each. Neither lost satellite recepton at any time. TomTom had very little lag - best I've seen it so far, but Garmin had a lag of about 2 seconds, which is more than it used to be with other radios. Of course this could be down to available satellites or weather conditions or something. As I understand it, you will always get a small certain amount of lag on these things.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] curufin:
Guys i just installed the new Tess ROM on my Mobile. Now i want to install radio 4.49.25.17. Though when i launch the .exe it says it will replace my Tess with some 1.00.00 version? Will the radio install screw up Tess so i will get a hard reset???

thanks in advance.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Xinot:
I have had same behavior. Best radio for me have been 3.46.25.18 with 6.1 here in Finland. Now im running 4.47.25.31 with TESS 2.0 and so far everything seem to work ok.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
Have the signal loss in poor signal areas as well, but here in Japan the 4.x radios are working better than the 3.x.

I don't know about stock ROM, the original ROM on my phone last only until HardSPL was available :rolleyes:

But since then I am using TESS ROM's and the 4.x radios are better.

My feeling is that the 4.x radios are better in Asia and 3.x radios are better in Europe.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Tatsch:
Hi, I can confirm that 3.46.25.18 seems to be the best so far with my HTC stock ROM - WM6.1. Used in Germany with e-plus.

Best signal (phone, Wifi, GPS) and good battery life. (Battery life of 3.44.25.27 was a little bit better, but signal worse)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Bandis710:
I am always using the newest radios and there isn't much difference for me. I almost always have full signal strength, fast GPS and good 3G/HSDPA connection,. I live in the Netherlands and my telco is Vodafone ... Maybe I am just very lucky :p
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ea66:
Just flashed the v 4.47.25.31 and much improvement since .13.

The signal is almost at maximum all the time, the phone stopped losing it every couple of hours, battery is fine.

Didn't check the GPS or 3G [no coverage here] but it's the best version for me... so far.

Using Orange, Poland and EnergyRom v.14 aug.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] brahmanto:
I am in Asia and been using v4.47.25.21 for couple days..

Low signal reception therefor battery drain fast.....

Best so far.. 3.44.25.27...

Someone can package v4.47.25.09 in .nbh file?

I can not flashed with cooked rom.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
I can do it for you. Which ROM do you want to have it packed with?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] brahmanto:
Thanks BeeGee...

Now I am using uDK Rom 2.06 Manila 2.1 WM 6.5, but I changed it time to time.

The first post link of the radio is in exe as originally downloaded from HTC, so when I put it into my WM 6.5 ROM, it showed error (forgot what error message).

Just don't want to flash it to original ROM then switch back to udK just to install the radio.

If you can help cook it into nbh so I can flash it into any ROM, would be great.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
That's quite easy.

If you get the radio packed in an .exe file, then you open the .exe file with WinRAR. You will see that there is an .nbh file inside. Just extract the .nbh file and then flash it with CustomRUU.

This time I did it for you, download this RAR file, extract it and run the CustomRUU.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] brahmanto:
BeeGee.... Thanks a lot... I didn't know is that simple.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] akirius:
Any one figured out which rom is the best for Tmobile USA?

I am having a horrible reception no matter which rom I try
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] -KJ-:
Will I lose my warranty if I flash a new radioversion? Will it improve overall reception, because mine is very poor (radio 3.43.25.19)?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] criszz:
amazing results

i got 5 days with last radio 4.47.25.31 and tess 1.5 . 74 min talk , minor use, soft reset every 24 hours. Damn , so good combination.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
Sorry, no answer for this. I tried to compile the feedback on the different radios to get an overview, but its confusing. Same radio versions from people in the same region seem to behave different.:D

For now you can just try and hope.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
Yes, flashing the ROM will break your warranty. But you can flash back your original radio version before sending the phone back for repair. In this case I don't think they will find out.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] guide144:
To keep warranty, after you restore the original rom. You also need to restore your SPL too. This way, they don't even know it.

:)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cowonman:
thank you.

thank you.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] akirius:
Thanks for your reply

After doing extensive testing, the only thing I can really conclude is that the radio for TD2 just sucks, period.

however, 3.46.25.18 does seem to work better than 4.xxxx ROMS on tmobile USA
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
I collected all input from Tom's old thread and from this thread and wrote it down in an excel file.

If anybody else wants a headache as well, check it out :mad:

We need a solution to be able to compare the radios. Any ideas welcome. Anybody knows about other threads having a good solution for this?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] akirius:
ご苦労様でした　^^

Is really hard to get an objective measurement on this issue without some kind of software help. For starters, I might be able to write one that pings google and test the quality of connection + test the download speed of an particular file.

For more accurate benchmark, some type of TCP packet analysis might be useful. What we need is a program that can analyze TCP package though things such as TCP Timestamps, as well as testing flow control performance.

Is anyone here experienced with TCP error handling/package acknowledgment?

im not sure about GPS testing since it is too dependent on external factors. Battery life is also hard, if not impossible, to measure accurately

By the way, during ROM testing, i found out that increasing TCP window size does help quite a bit on tmobile EDGE network.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] criszz:
this is normal, no hard reset
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Tatsch:
Don't worry, this behavior is normal. No hard rest. ;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] curufin:
Yea you guys were right :) No harm done :P

thanks!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] vikramdhani:
Hi can anyone help me to go back to the official rom on my att fuze because i want to return my phone to att
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] root beer:
I have found 4.49.25.17 to show more bars but the data connection just seems to stop and start all the time. This is even when I am right next to the actual tower so there is something not right with this one.

Back to the old one.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] adigraham:
Mate, go into topaz rom development then the wiki post .. all iriginal htc roms are there!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
Hi,

as there is no "original" AT&T ROM file available, you can just do the following:

1) Get the "original" ROM from here. It is created from the dumped AT&T ROM. No changes made, just flashable version created.

2) Get the original Radio from here.

3) Flash both onto your Topaz.

4) Flash back original SPL from here.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Pete_S:
I did my first complete ROM upgrade to Shadowline's yesterday (prompted by your finding of increased data stability). Unfortunately it didn't improve things for me, just shows how network and area dependent it is.

At least it gave me the chance to find out how much I like the original ROM, and to test Sprite backup, which restored my exact configuration back once I'd reflashed the stock ROM , so there was a "silver lining"

I know it's the wrong place to mention it, but I prefer old style TF3D to Sense (it's very garish). And not so impressed with WM6.5 either. Must be getting old and set in my ways...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
Same here :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] adigraham:
Pete_S - If you like the stock rom, then just go for Amans Essentials 2.F which is 6.1 but very fast and bug free!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] chris5s:
+1 ... :rolleyes:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] tudorlv:
indeed

for now traveling between Romania and Hungary often 4.49.25.17 give the best results for gps and gsm purposes, really recomend it at leat for eastern part of europe
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Pete_S:
Thanks for the tip, Adi. I like the sound of fast and bug free. I'll try it when my nerves have recovered from the double flash and full restore.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] hungera:
stupid question, is this ROM applicable to HTC HD?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
simple answer

NO

ROM's cannot be used on different devices and you are in the TOPAZ forum, so no HD ROM's here.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] adigraham:
Fair enough!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Ghoul Jedi:
Nice work ver. 4.49.25.17 in Belarus (Velcom)

Thank`s :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] xdauser100:
Radio Rom - Australia Vodafone

i had previously asked advice re best radio for Vodafone Australia....with no results in the thread...but I can now confirm that i have recently flashed ver 4.49.25.17 onto my TD2 and my reception has basically doubled..without drop out....this rom is much better than OEM that was shipped....
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] romancito:
Hi! Greetings from Spain...

I have installed 4.49.25.17 in my Topaz with great improvements!

I have one more day of battery than the others.. beetween 3 or 4 days...

Great job and highly recommended
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] akirius:
the latest rom works well with tmobile USA

much better than older roms on topaz

BUT still worse than my super old tmobile MDA and Dash
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] gamecat:
just updated to 4.49.25.17 and gone from 2 bars at home to 3-4 bars so very impressed.

I live in the Derby, UK postcode is DE21

Many thanks
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] player911:
Sweet, I'll have to try it. My AT&T Fuze would go in and out of signal with 1 bar. My new Pure shows 2 bars and doesn't drop as much.

On a side note my old trustee Samsung Blackjack had Full bars. If I can get a nice signal boost I'll be in heaven.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] strikeIII:
What is the latest Radio version that comes stock on the AT&T Pure?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Fru T Bunn:
Was on 4.49.25.17 on WM6.1 - excellent

Upgraded to WM6.5 - worse than ever

Re-flashed 4.49.25.17 - no change

Can re-flashing a ROM (that didn't contain a radio) affect the radio?

Regards,

Fru
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
What WM6.5 ROM did you flash? Did you try different WM 6.5 ROM's?

The performance of the radio is influenced by registry settings and some files (as far as I know). Maybe the ROM you tried does not match with the 4.49.25.17 Radio ROM.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Fru T Bunn:
Hi BeeGee, thanks for the reply.

Yes. This is a cooked ROM. I can't remember who cooked it - bad as I only flashed last night!

Thanks for the confirmation that the reg has an effect on the radio function. I'll get home tonight and have a play.

Cheers,

Fru.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Pose1don:
Anyone from the Netherlands has experience with the 2 lates ROMs combined with WM6.5 (I use TESS 3.7)?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] deechte:
I'm using the latest 4.49.25.17 radio with Duttys R6 ROM: works great. Best reception I've seen on Vodafone NL.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] jlccarv:
from my testing, its clear that the 4.48.25.20 radio is best for Melbourne, Australia. considering its from the official Telstra ROM, it should be (and is)...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] EgorLev:
Can’t share everybody inspiration about 4.49.25.17 radio. I’ve noticed that it eats allot more power wile talking and standby with BT hands free. Back to 4.48.25.20. Official 6.1 rom
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] adigraham:
After alot of time, I think you could be right .. i don't have BT on unless i need it or anything apart from the phone function and i can lose quite a % of power each night on standby .. gonna go back one i think.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] thormdac:
+1 here, especially in comparison to the stock radio i dumped 3 days ago!

greetz
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Pete_S:
I keep Bluetooth enabled all the time, though it only gets used when I switch on my Sony a2dp stick for music (about 1-2 hours a day). It does lose a bit more power every night leaving it enabled, about 5-7%, but this doesn't matter when it's charged every night.

I haven't noticed the latest 4.49.25.17 ROM to be any worse than the stock ROM in this respect.

PS: Sorry, just realised that's not exactly the point you were making! But, I've not found the latest ROM worse whilst using Bluetooth either, in fact the opposite if anything. This is with !Aman!'s 6.1 ROM, BTW.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] lukasf:
Hi! Please I need apply stock SPL. But where can I found official Radio? Now I use 4.49.25.17 (from XDA), and offiical WM 6.5.. My country is Czech republic
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] EgorLev:
as far as I know official wm6.5 rom supplied with 4.49.25.17 radio in it. so what's the problem?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] adigraham:
I actually think that MS Myphone syncing @ 4am each night is causing the biggest problem having thought about it!!!!

Saying that i hate the 4.49.25.17 ROM giving extra bars when its just a graphic ... will go back to it though as i did find it the strongest signal ..
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] aethicus:
US/Texas - What Radio?

So if I have a stock ATT Pure purchase a few weeks ago. should I stick with the Radio that comes with the phone? I am not clear if the Radio builds here are for non-US markets or both.

I would like to improve WIFI and GPS response and also if possible improve 3G response if that is doable in the US/Texas area.

thanks! :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
I guess you have the latest 4.49.25.17 radio ROM on your device. If not, you can try it, it got some good feedback from different locations including US.

I use it here in Japan and I am very satisfied ;)

But that is of course not helping you :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] aethicus:
Thanks BeeGee, I will compare my Radio to that one and see.

Question: if I flash my ROM do I have to re-flash the Radio?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
It depends. Stock ROM's usually come with a Radio ROM, so you might need to reflash the Radio afterwards. Cooked ROM's usually have no Radio ROM included, so you keep the one that was on your phone.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Lapeno:
plz read first post
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] thianlim:
hmm okey well I did read the first post, but I wasn't sure if HardSPL was all that was necessary. I'm afraid to brick my device, so that's why I asked just to be sure :) .. but thx for ur answer
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
Don't worry, if you have the original SPL, and you try to flash a Radio or OS ROM that is not for your phone, it will not work.

The HardSPL just let you flash any Radio or OS ROM that you want with giving you safety, as you can return to Bootloader, even if you flash a ROM that is not for your Diamond2. Bootloader will then allow you to flash a correct Radio or OS ROM. I think its even safer than the original SPL.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] fyall:
I tried to download the 4.49.25.17 but keep getting a virus warning from the links.