yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Biffert:
I voted no lag, but that is because of some modifications I made.

Before I go into detail, here is my definition of "lag":

My device lags if an action that should be instant hangs for a fraction (or more) before taking place. An example of such an action is a screen swipe across the homescreen. It should happen as you perform the swipe, if it doesn't, something is lagging and preventing the screen from moving. Waiting for a calendar to load, an inbox to display, logging in to messenger, that sort of stuff is in my view not lagging. They are usualy an action that loads data for display or modification.

I voted for No lag at all, but I cheated because I have removed the entire Sense UI and its widgets from my device using the Rosie remover from Modaco.

The Sense UI is a great piece of work, but every time I used it I had the feeling the Hero just doesnt have the horsepower to drive such a UI. (Which fits my description of lagging)

So, lagging: No, but only after cheating and reverting to the default Homescreen.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Irregular Programming:
I voted totally no, but it's not exactly true. The phone can sometimes lag abit while it's loading up from sleep mode, also the browser can lag depending on which sites you visit. But both of those examples are very minor and I have never had the phone freeze for more than a second.

Sure the phone could be faster, but when I got it, and after hearing about it's laggyness from reviews I was supprised of how fast it was.

I use the default ROM that came with the phone, and taskkiller isn't even installed.

I have a couple of complaints about this device but lag isn't one of them.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Stafflover:
I experience the same thing, I've had doubts on buying the new diamond 2 or the hero, since i've had the diamond 1 for a while I decided to try the android thingy.

Compared to that the diamond lives in the stoneages and experiences lot's of lag, my hero sometimes hesitates when coming out of sleep and when I just refreshed the widget's (got new mail ore weather update) it lags a tiny bit, but I don't consider the hero to lag overall so I voted option 2
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cymru:
Typing quickly makes the keyboard lag quite alot which always winds me up.

Scrolling through contacts is very clunky (maybe due to all of them having pictures and facebook status'). But then again dont offer the feature if its crap.

Messages takes too long to load up.

BAM!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] megaoptimus:
Did you keep any aspects of Sense UI intact? I don't know what is tied to it as far as the keyboard and music player?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Switchbitch:
Totally no for me. I thought about 'More of a slight delay' but that would be less accurate, as for the most part things happen very quickly. The keyboard has been known to miss a beat, and large pdf files take a minimum of time to load up the pages as you scroll, but apart from the expected delay in processing intensive tasks, generally I've been pretty amazed at the speed of the thing to be honest. If I was to say the Hero lagged, I'd have to say my PC lagged aswell. Some things do take time. You're not gonna load up a 5Mb pdf instantaneously on the iPhone either.

To completely remove delay or lag from a phone you'd need processing power far beyond that normally required by the software, which isn't practical.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Biffert:
Only the visible parts have been removed such as HTC widgets and the homescreen itself. The apps still work great (calendar, people, keyboard, etc). The background services are still present.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Huey85:
Just a bit of delay between switching screens and once in a while I do encounter keystroke lag when typing on eBuddy and RoadSync email - rarely any keyboard lag when texting.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Tone-Fu:
I've been trying out some bits and pieces over the past couple of days and have noticed some serious performance differences.

After my factory reset I didn't set an 'unlock code' with the connect the dots dealy, this has made a massive difference to the performance of my phone. Also, as I'm with Vodafone, I didn't bother setting up Peep, I opted for Twidroid instead. Without peep on a home 'scene' I've got a performance boost too. Twidroid is still running in the background, mind and I don't miss a tweet!

Just thought I'd chime in and see if anyone else had noticed the same.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Leviathon:
No lag at all here with anything yet, tried a few different configurations. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones, but looks like the new update will sort out any lag in the next few days?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] lux209:
No lag for me, sometimes you have to wait a second but compare to my last phone (HTC Diamond) it's just black and white.

The diamond was buggy and slow. The hero is fast, I never had a freeze and Android is the best OS I never tried!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] streetdaddy:
This is my first touch screen, and first android phone, so of course im constantly impressed with it. Blows my mind in fact.

That said, I do experience lag problems:

- that require me to use Taskiller to kill everything once in a while if ive been using to many difference apps.

- Keyboard lag when typing fast. More noticeable if apps are piled up in the background

- Sliding between home screens straight after unlocking the screen. Seems like once they screens are 'buffered' they slide smoothly and quickly. FYI i only use 3 home screens with only the clock, dialer, Taskiller and WIFI widget. Rest is plain app shortcut icons.

- Dialer widget. Sliding through favourite contacts is sloooow. Take a second or two to start moving, and as aboive, once I've slid all the way up and down and its 'buffered' its smooth as silk...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] disssko:
I voted for Sometimes is unusable.

First week I used TasKiller and Advanced Task Killer (great app btw!) to kill unnecessary apps running, and I was very pleased with the performance. Next week I uninstalled all third party task killer apps because I read here that Android should be very capable of handling these things. Well in my experience, I doesn't handle this all too well, I think now my device is lagging more than with me using task killers.

Lagging here means screen unresponsive when unlocking, not being able to drag notifications bar to properly view what's there, home screen switching is not so smooth etc. I'm only using Wi-Fi & other ON/OFF switches, medium weather app, couple of calendar widgets and bunch of shortcuts on my home screen. Only FB contacts are integrated, I'm not on Twitter or Flickr.

Just today I started using class 6 microSD card, and for now, everything seems pretty smooth. But I did remove the battery before doing this so it might not be so dramatic change compared to previous experience. Waiting eagerly for the new Hero update!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] schauol1:
Only Sense is slow sometimes

Sometimes (once or twice a day) it definately lags. But it seems only a "Sense" issue. When it happens, for example the scrolling is not smooth anymore and the "SMS" Widget stops working properly (you can't flip trough the messages anymore).

But if I enter any Application, the App. itself works smooth and without any lags at all.

Strange thing is: after a couple of minutes (and it doesn't matter if the phone is turned on or not) the lag disappears totally. Maybe theres is some sort of "memory-rearrangement" or "Disk defragmentation" going on that slows the phone down while running. :confused:
[Hero, G2 Touch General] frymaster.127:
it's worth noting as well that whether or not there are any "issues" it's always possible to make the phone lag - playing high-bit-rate-music while trying to browse a flash website will do it, for example - but that's only because the phone doesn't artificially limit what you can do
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Deicist:
taken from this thread in the dream forum, might be best contributing to that but I thought I'd start a new thread to draw attention to the 'fixing sms issues' aspect of this.

basically, renice is a linux utility for changing the priority of applications.

you run it like this:

adb shell

renice PRIORITY `pidof APPNAME`

appname is the name of an application (duh!), priority is -20 to 20, -20 being highest priority.

I'm running this at the moment:

renice -20 `pidof com.android.mms`

renice -19 `pidof com.android.phone`

renice -18 `pidof mediaserver`

renice 0 `com.google.process.gapps`

on drizzy's full v3, and I think I see an improvement in phone pickup speed and I haven't lost an sms yet.

YMMV, but it's certainly worth playing with.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Deicist:
bugger, this was supposed to go in the sapphire forum... could a kindly mod please move it?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] supersobbie:
Good day all,

OK I am very wet behind the ears with developing. I have been playing with manila files for a while now and am very interested to learn more. so I downloaded the LEO OEM updates. I unzip them and end up with a lot of files that I am familiar with (*_manila) but I have folders for dll files not the actual dll. The folder has an imageinfo.bin/.txt and 0-4 S00*files. So my question is how to I compile them to be DLL files? I am sure that you can probably just put that in any of the kitchens but I dont want to create a rom I just want to compile the DLL files.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks to all the very smart people here for the help they have provided so far.

Thanks,

SoBBie
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mwalt2:
You use a tool like recmod.exe or nuerecmod.exe Both are attached. Simply drag the folder over the icon of the .exe you want to use.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] supersobbie:
Thanks!!!! I will take a look.

SoBBie
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] the-nj:
Hey everyone...

i bet there are millions of threads about that but beeing honestly i couldnt find them because i didnt know what to search for...xD

so im looking for cabs or just the icons thatll change the top bar icons lik the volume, battery, start, and all these icons....

thanks guys

nick
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Philux:
Here is a thread for what you are talking about...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=441829

Stylez also has some cool icons in a cab package. You might hit him up for the link or I wil try to see if I can find it back again.

Edit Ahh Here it is..

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3569751&postcount=7495
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] denco7:
And here

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3231753&postcount=6

and here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=514352

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=441829

and here

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=661744&postcount=21

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=54514

and here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=43730

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=426264&highlight=Start+Icon+taskbar

That will keep you reading for a while :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] stylez:
& here is the tools http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=432041 ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] dominikw88:
always when i install one of those cabs for symbols i got a wired locking simpad (where you type your pin) with to big buttons or something like that when i deinstall a symbol cab its normal again.

what ist wrong?

german diamond 1.4 rom
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] denco7:
Do you download sdcerts first ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] ai6908:
Awesome info! Thanks guys....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] dominikw88:
yes i have installed that first

then changed the ph.....dll

and then installed the cab with icons

and always when i install the icons it seems the pinpad changes into one for a vga display
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] drkfngthdragnlrd:
The ph.dll probably isn't corectly sign breaking Phone Canvas. Did you edit it & if so did you unsign it before editing & resign after editing?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] wapvirus:
It's the phcanOverbmp.dll a VGA one has been used you need to get a QVGA version then edit that version(repace the icons) and pin pad will be fine ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] dominikw88:
because i couldn´t solve the problem with the wired pinpad i installed other taskbars until i found a taskbar where the pinpad locks right, it is the block taskbar from gadget freak, but there i have an other problem.

the antenna icon changes to the normal icon until i have a signal all other icons are in the new design.

(i hope you understand my english, because i am from germany)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] drkfngthdragnlrd:
For Users, See the following CAB's Attached;

If you are using a ROM with the small normal SoftKey Bar, down either "Dragonworld_Blk&Red Build 23017 or Older.cab" or "Dragonworld_Blk&Red Build 23017 or Older (for TransParent Start Icon).cab". The second CAB is if you are using my TaskBar Icons with a Transparent Start Icon.

If you are using a ROM with the new LARGE SoftKey Bar & SoftKey button Graphics, down either "Dragonworld_Blk&Red Build 23028 or Newer.cab" or "Dragonworld_Blk&Red Build 23028 or Newer (for TransParent Start Icon).cab". The second CAB is if you are using my TaskBar Icons with a Transparent Start Icon.

TaskBar Icons & Theme CAB ZIP DOWNLOAD HERE

​
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] shinekurian:
great work !!!!

i can download frm the link u hav provided:mad: .........is ther any other link ...like in rapid share or somethin ...........thanks n advance ,,,,,,:):)
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] pcm2a:
I know at first glance you came here to flame me good, maybe i deserve it.

I'm running a Roger's magic (32A) and every one of the rom threads says that bluetooth headsets is a no go and A2DP streaming works. I have two different bluetooth A2DP stereo headsets and a car stereo that supports it as well.

Stock ugly Google roms with fine with them.

JackHeroski latest build will pair with any of them and will show connected, but no sound transmits through.

Same goes for Drizzy V3.

Weird thing is both of them play the non playing audio way too fast. Like the seconds count down 2-3 times after than an actual second.

Has anyone gotten any Hero 32A roms to work and play A2DP music? (Not BT Headsets)
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] pcm2a:
Just tried otu Fata1ity's 1.4 rom and A2DP works fine. What's wrong with all those other roms!
[Touch GSM General] BigMen 2007:
Hello all, I have HTC P3450 (Elf) and when I try to open comm manager, nothing happens. I use Onyx's WM 6.1. I also had this problem with original WM 6.0. If anyone knows a solution please post....

:(--->Sorry about my poor english<---:(
[Touch GSM General] jeremy89632:
Thats rather unusual.

Please reflash ( It maybe a flashing fault, chances are slim, but it maybe there )

Remember to backup before doing that.

It wipes out everything.
[Touch GSM General] BigMen 2007:
I believe that it has to be something about bluetooth, because when I can't open comm manager, I can't function bluetooth either.
[Touch GSM General] jeremy89632:
Bluetooth?

Quite unlikely.

Mmm, hard reset?
[Touch GSM General] BigMen 2007:
It's definitely a bluetooth broblem. Re-installed today WM6.0, everything was working great till the time I decided to turn on bluetooth. It turned on just fine but when I tried to close it, the windows loading logo stayed on the screen forever and after this the comm manager couldn't open, even when I reset the device.

Since my english are poor if you don't understand something please ask.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] redmanmark86:
a person posted below that if someone can be kind enough to upload all the manila files from their windows folder on their rom then he can create a cab out of them for everybody else to use.

Please please please will someone do this or tell me how to take apart a rom to do it, this would open up 2.6 to most people who own any HTC phone, not just topaz, like me, Rhodium :)

-- original --

Could someone make a cab version of 2.6 to save having to flash a whole new rom for it, i know someone did it with 2.0

Thanks

Mark
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] LeoArg:
Me too.

Thank you
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] TheGentAtXDA:
+1, please!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] alex6630:
+1, i like it! i need it! i want it!!!)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] prdic:
for me too please :) and thanx
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] Maverik82:
but exist cab for manila 2.5 or 2.6..... i have the official rom and i want update manila only...it's possible?????

tnk's
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] bassboy303:
That would be a very great .CAB file if it exists or someone has the knowledge to create it !
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] Fru T Bunn:
+1

... or the OEM package for people like me who, although they have tried until they are blue in the face, just can not create a successful OEM from a CAB.

OEM packages ... one of the banes of my life :confused:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] rotastrain:
i can if someone using the rom just posts the files here..copy all the _manila files frm the wqindows folder and post them here in a zip file

i can make a cab
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] Maverik82:
you can post the zip no cab file pls!?!?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] rotastrain:
if you want the 2.6

here is what you have to give me!

copy the entire windows folder to ur storage card

zip it

send it to me

i will do it!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] redmanmark86:
problem is i dont have it, do you know if its possible to nick it out of a cooked rom? then ill open one up and try and take the files from there for you?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] vichet007:
I actually can help but my internet is too slow.

The only thing you need to do is to flash this udk Leo R1 WM6.5 ROM and then copy the Windows file to storage card, zip it and upload it here or send it to rotastrain to make a cab.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] alex6630:
I have udk Leo R1 WM6.5 ROM, but dont have Topaz, how can i find Manila 2.6 files in this rom without flashing?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] Maverik82:
ok.......i try copy window folder and zip for you......tnk's
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] alex6630:
we'll wait, but we dont need all files from windows folder, we need only manila files, i think... tnk's
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] rotastrain:
i need the entire windows folder.

flash udks rom

copy windows folder to strage card.

copy it to the pc

zip it

post it!

i take it apart.rebuild.. ;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] redmanmark86:
im also Topazless as i have a Rhodium, someone out there has to have a rhodium or a kitchen must be able to extract them?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] rotastrain:
work in progress !!!!!!!!!!!1

:)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] alex6630:
waiting for the miracle!))
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] redmanmark86:
oh my god, the excitement is killing me, first hardspl released and now this in progress, oh all the joy, so much at once... its xmas...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] Laban:
But wait a sec... Are you sure that it's possible to get Manila 2.6 just by copying a few files. Can it really be that easy?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] redmanmark86:
im sure its not that easy, and maybe certian switches wont work but mostly overall it should... someone did it with 2.0 and it worked a charm.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] shruff:
Hang on I think Manila is dependant on other "compatible" modules such as Album, Full Screen Player, HTC messaging etc, could we have those too pls :D

Sharing is caring!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] Maverik82:
i've backup my manila file how post??!?!?!?!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] shruff:
zip it, then upload to Rapidshare or Mediafire
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] tracksuit:
coming from a skinning point of view. if you took all of the manilla files from the windows dir (udk rom), there would be alot of redundant files in there.

how do you know whats from 2.5< and whats 2.6?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] tjsa:
Cumon Gents

Lets get this cab zipped and uploaded!:)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] rotastrain:
its not so simple.work in progress.i may succeed .i may not,..50-50

:)

we will see
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] shruff:
If you cant post the raw modules and you're using a ROM with M2.6 can you please use this tool to dump the ROM then post it here please.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] kent1985:
Ready to try!!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] wez89:
I believe it wont work just by copying the files over to the windows directory..i heard the files had to be built into the rom, so first you need the OEM
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] jonathanfoster:
how do i know what version of manila i have ??
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] wez89:
Settings tab, very bottom should be 'about' your touchflo version will be displayed there
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] 65coupei6:
From what I heard you also need other packages from LEO in your Rom for the Manilla to work correctly.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] rotastrain:
can someone search for the following file in windows folder and post here>

any one WHO IS ON UDK's NEW ROM PLEASE CAN YOU FIND ANY OF THE DLL's attached in the image?

i have the first 4!!

after that i need all!!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] prdic:
I've got firs one only, so here is (manila 2.0.3) just rename extension to .dll

edit: so it's useless after you edited your post :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] NRGZ28:
You guys are funny... It's gonna take you forever and a day to build a Manila 2.6 package out of a DUMP. Talk to a chef... that already have a Manila 2.6 package to help out with the registry settings needs as well as the MODULES for all the DLL's your missing :) Oh wait.. I have that stuff. Someone PM me with the dump from the ROM and I'll make it work...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] rotastrain:
seems ur right..i have the entire windows and the reg files..u want these?I need the rom to fix landscape issue with non accelerometer devices..u have the modules?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] redmanmark86:
if rotastrain can provide you with the right files is this something you can integrate in to your current rhodium roms?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] Fru T Bunn:
Manila 2.5

I did what everyone advises - search.

Here's Manila 2.5 from a Blackstone. It's not 2.6 but it's only one tenth out.

<< corrupt attachment removed >>
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] TheGentAtXDA:
If this'll work this'll be paypal worthy for sure.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] aitnog:
nice zip, all files have a size of 0 byte! this will definitely work ... not
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] errevi:
same here... all files are 0 byte
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] Fru T Bunn:
:eek:How the hell did that happen? - most likely my bad.

I will try and leave off work early today to see if I can't sort it out.

Fru
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] Fru T Bunn:
If this does work then don't send any money to me - I do it for the community, not to line my own pockets.

Why not send any gratuity to the site owners with the idea that they spend it on improving the site infrastructure.

Fru.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] Laban:
Let me get this straight:

Then plan is to take Manila 2.5/2.6 and create a cab-file? This way I should (if it works) be able to get the latest Manila without using a cooked ROM? Correct?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] TheGentAtXDA:
Yes. Hopefully.