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[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] argentocruz:
Under device info, it displays DCSTouchProV15 WWE as my rom version...

I don't see this in the shipped 6.1 rom list...

I want to dl it as backup if I don't like some custom roms...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] korps:
search search...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=421609
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] argentocruz:
I did search but the rom version did not have a "-" and it didn't find it...

omg, its a cooked rom already? I bought the phone as new on ebay and took for granted it was a shipped rom as it detected and installed my telstra australia settings.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] draven187:
You can flash it back easily to original if you want to...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] giucre:
Hi guys!

Anyone knows where can I find on original or cooked ROM in PORTUGUESE language for my raphael?

A lot of tx in advance for any reply!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Kevlar-Source:
You can find it here, unfortunately...

Use the SEARCH function... It's not hazardous to your health...

Cheers.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] giucre:
tx

tx,

I found ! ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cdmackay:
hi all,

I've installed a raft of apps in the last few days (perhaps that was foolish) on my sim-free white Hero, and suddently the battery life has gone to pieces. It now won't even last the night *in standby with wifi off*.

Any ideas as to the known battery killers, or any way I can track down which is causing this? I don't really have to want to start removing apps at random and monitoring.

There's nothing particularly unusual in my list of running apps, following a power cycle (is there?):

Shake Awake, NetCounter, AK Notepad, OI Update & Countdown, Tube Status, Battery Widget, BBC News widget, Peep

(although that does raise a separate question: why do things like ShopSavvy, AK Notepad, start at boot, when presumably they're not really doing anything until you use them?)

Of course, I have other things that get started asynchronously, just not at boot, e.g. SMS Popup.

anyone got any ideas, please?

thanks much indeed.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] nicelad_uk:
I had the same issue when i put on battery widget, I saw the % going down while watching the phone.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cdmackay:
oh! that's ironic :)

I do get the impression that it's more recent than that, but it could well be, I suppose. I'll remove it and see... thanks.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ritdaw:
I've heard that the bbc widget drains the battery.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] phel21:
This is something Google should address with android market. The system should apply various forms of stress testing to all applications and rate them according to connectivity requirements, CPU load, power consumption etc.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] nicelad_uk:
I think for people who have a serious drain they need to hard reset and start again, put 1 program on at a time and leave it a day or so with that program on, finding out whats causing the drain.

Logically thinking, i'd expect it to be a program that is using internet in the background, like the bbc widget which could still be downloading without you knowing.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cdmackay:
good points, ta.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Nemo0815:
I already noticed this. I checked the CPU load in idle mode and normally it should be around 10% (using "System Monitor").

Sometimes however, depending on what apps were running, it is increased to 30-40% and staying there constantly.

Closing all apps (incl. Sense) does not help either, the CPU load won't go down again until i make a complete device reset.

So i guess some processes are stuck in thise case causing the high load (and draining the battery empty).
[Hero, G2 Touch General] H5N1_NL:
My GPS did not disconnect, after foto geo-tagging, and that goes quick as well.

Also the BBC-app was installed, but got rid of it because I didn't use it. Might be a coincidence.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] kam187:
The BBC app polls really often. There's no setting to tell it how often to poll. It really kills the battery fast
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cdmackay:
I wonder though: even when the phone is in standby? something is killing me in standby. Oddly, it seems better if the phone is on :)

I'll try removing the BBC app overnight, and see...

then the battery widget tomorrow, etc...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] kam187:
Turn on usb debugging... download the SDK.. cd into tools.. and run

adb logcat

or to send it to a file:

adb logcat > log.txt

(and ctrl + C to stop logging)

Inspect the log file and you'll see what its upto pretty quickly. Maybe its overkill, but I fire that up when it starts behaving strangly.

EDIT: err to answer your question.. yeah the widgets wake the phone up to grab new data, which eats battery. The BBC news one seems to be polling reallllly often, which is unecesarily using power.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cdmackay:
quick update: removed BBC News and Battery Widget (separately), no change; phone still dies overnight, in fact in about 5 hours on standby, from a full battery, to totally dead.

I just this minute discovered that my phone whilst in standby is still polling my IMAP server to try and connect, and I have a huge inbox, which it was prob failing to get the headers for. Seems like a possible bug that it still does this whilst in standby, but I've disabled that account anyway. It might be the cause...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] tatwamasi:
What do you mean by Standby? Just inactive? Airplane Mode?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cdmackay:
sorry, poor terminology, perhaps. No, not airplane mode, just the screen-off state it goes into after a few minutes.

It does seem a little bit of a waste, if the phone is going to spend all night checking for new Twitter, Gmail, etc, updates, when I'm not awake to read them? So I'd naively assumed that perhaps it wouldn't do that when it's in the screen-off state. Unless you've asked for notification other than on the top bar, of course?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] foxmeister:
To be fair, the phone doesn't know when you're going to asleep now does it? (especially if you're a night worker).

I notice that there's an application in the market now which can automatically turn airplane mode on according to a schedule, so that may help but of course this does mean you won't get phone calls!

Regards,

Dave
[Hero, G2 Touch General] nicelad_uk:
No it doesn't but I'm developing a widget which will disable data access at certain times (dependent on user) so overnight it wont use data and save battery.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cdmackay:
Right; I really meant the following, but worded it wrongly...

I had expected apps not to do data access when the phone's screen is off, unless they have been configured to notify via sound, vibrate or light.

i.e. if an app either isn't notifying, or is only notifying via the top bar, then it should disable its data access when the screen is off.

That would mean a short delay in getting updates, when the screen is back on, but I'd rather have that than spending much battery time pointless checking for updates when I'm not going to see them for ages, whether that's at night or just when the phone is sitting on the desk for hours.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cdmackay:
aha! that sounds great, thanks in advance :)

would you update us here when you have something testable, please?

and if it's not pushing my luck to ask: any chance that it might also have a manual switch too, for those of us who go to bed at wildly different times?

Or perhaps there is already a way to disable data access manually, with a single setting change, without disabling the phone? I think there might be...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cdmackay:
ah yes indeed, there's even an HTC widget to disable mobile networking, whilst leaving phone enabled. That will do for now :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] joemax:
Are you sure you guys are not using some rogue app or widget ?

My Hero loses 2 blocks of power (as seen in the Setting -> About Phone -> Status) over night.

Peep is set to every 30mins to update

HTC Mail is set to 2hrs

Weather widget

People app set to every 8 hours

FeedR set to every 4 hours

I just hit refresh or update in any given app / widget if I really need the freshest info.

I think all the data hungry app and widgets need to be balanced with what you REALLY need update wise and what your happy to manually update when needed. This should save a lot on data use and battery IMHO.

Also, if you live / sleep in a non 3G area - set the Hero to 2G only data. Save's a lot of power and TBH even with GPRS, the above are plenty fast enough to get data over.

BTW, even if you don't use the Stocks app / widget, open it up and set it to never update. My Hero has been slightly more responsive on wake since I did this.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cdmackay:
yup, it prob is some rogue app, but hard to find which one. It seems that any app that registers for alarms, i.e. scheduled wakeups, gets started automatically at boot and always runs, so there's a lot of apps to consider. I'm running very few widgets, and none other than the default HTC clock/weather should be doing any updates.

I've never seen Stocks actually running, but I'll check that too, thanks.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cdmackay:
Problem solved :)

Well, worked around, at least, and I tihnk possibly solved, too.

The workaround was fairly obvious: disable mobile data network overnight. with that done, my Hero stayed at 10/10 battery bars all night. There's even a jolly HTC widget to toggle it.

I had thought it odd, that I was getting shocking battery performance overnight (from fully charged to dead in 5 hours), whilst apparently unused, yet I bagen to realise that I was getting much better battery life during the day, when I was actually using it.

The difference here is that during the day I have wireless enabled, and at night I disabled it, leaving mobile data on.

As to what was causing all the data access: I'm fairly sure it was HTC Mail. I had setup an account to try and access my main inbox via IMAP/SSL. This has > 10k msgs, and Mail just choked on it. I wasn't entirely surprised (I've yet to see a mobile device that can cope) and moved on to other things, using gmail.

I had failed to notice that Mail was still trying to access; presumably repeatedly it has been trying to download 10K headers, choking, sulking, repeat, etc. All fairly painless with wireless on, but overnight, on GPRS (no 3G here, let alone HSPDA), this becomes a major task, and it prob spent all night sucking on GPRS.

As I needed my alarm to work this morning, I just disabled mobile data entirely, and the battery stayed at 10/10 all night.

I have disabled the Mail account, so tonight I will leave mobile data enabled, and see what happens.

Thanks to all for all the suggestions.

I note that none of the obvious widget candidates (BBC News, Battery, Peep, Calendar) made any difference. We'll see if they do tonight.

That said, it prob makes sense to just disable both wireless and mobile data whilst I'm asleep :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] joemax:
You can set wireless data to 'sleep' whenever the screen is off BTW.

Good to see you found a likely culprit. I turned by HTC Mail checking from 5 mins to every hour and it made a big difference.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cdmackay:
thanks; I think it want data on during the day, even with the screen off, for e.g. Gmail notifications.

thanks for Mail tip :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Golgo:
I wonder... I use Gmail including calendar and contacts which the Hero syncs wonderfully. However, do you guys think gmail sync services are heavy on the battery? It must be polling the servers pretty much continuously since any mail that arrives are notified almost instantly.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cdmackay:
yup, agreed; that's why I'm going to disable both wireless and mobile data overnight. I'd do it with one of those apps on a timer, but I generally go to sleep at wildly different times, so the HTC widgets are easier, and more fun :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cdmackay:
forgive my lurch OT, but are you finding your Calendar syncing working in both directions?

Several of us (in other threads) are reporting syncing only working from Google Calendar to the phone, and not in the other direction.

I've created events on the phone, and they never show up in Google, and deleted Google events from the phone whilst they stay on google.

but changes made on Google are reflected on the phone...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] bigbamboo5:
From Outlook, the same - PC to phone is fine, but nothing the other way...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Golgo:
Its working without a hitch for me. Just make sure you choose the right calendar on the Hero when creating an appointment so its not added to the phones private cal.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] trice1921:
That was the mistake i made to begin with. But since selecting the right cal it all works as expected.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cdmackay:
yup, that was it, indeed. thanks much :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ghoonk:
I think you're confusing Google Market with Apple App Store here. if i wanted a device where someone decides what makes it on the market or not through some arbitrary process, i'd have stuck with the iPhone.

What makes Market great is that people decide what works and what doesn't, not Google (unless they're getting their arms twisted by carriers)

Known battery killers are generally stuff that use GPS in the background, e.g. Google Latitude, Google Maps (if you leave it running), Locale, BuddyMob, LifeAware, etc -- anything that regularly broadcasts your location. Other known battery killers are apps that have a persistent data connection, and you leave WiFi on, which results in WiFi being used instead of going into standby
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cdmackay:
I would note that in my experience Google Maps seems well-behaved: the instant it is no longer the "foreground" application, GPS activity stops, even though Maps is still running.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] joemax:
Ditto that.

Very few apps keep the GPS on in my experience unless they are designed to run in the background with it active.

Mine is set to on always and is only ever activated when opening an app that requires it.

Battery life appears not to be affected set like this. If it is, its negligible.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Peter Franks:
Battery life has been pretty rubbish on every phone I've owned, This is no different, I got 12 hours yesterday, just checking emails periodically and a few calls. Even straight off of charge, one call down, there is a visible decrease on the green battery icon. Not one of the phone's strongest points.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] joemax:
Logging out of Twitter and using Twidroid has seen my battery usage fall dramatically. Even with Twidroid set to update every 15 mins, I only lose 10% battery overnight.

With Peep running and set to update every hour, I would loose easily 20% overnight.

Measured using Spare Parts Battery information.

Has speeded up my Hero no end too, hardly any lag.

Peep for me was a resource and power hog.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] hkr:
Compared with Touch Diamond 2 and Touch HD, the Hero battery is excellent. Did a 3h walk and recorded it with Hero. After 3h the battery was still more than 50%, very impressive with active navigation ...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] joemax:
ditto hkr... posted this in another 'battery and task manager' thread just...

I still don't see the point of using task managers and killing tasks. I just let the OS manage everything for me.

My Hero run very well indeed since I worked out that Peep was a real battery and resource hog.

I've just been for a 4 mile walk and used My Tracks to track the walk, Twidroid, Browser hot linked from tweets in Twidroid, answered a phone call and responded to a number of texts.

Looked at My Tracks a number of times to see what it was doing and to look at the satellite map. I like to point out things on the phone screen to the kids that they can see in real life - geeky but they think its cool.

Kept checking on how fast we were walking etc...

So screen was active quite a bit.

All over the space of 1hr 15mins with the GPS running all the time.

Hero never lagged once, battery used was around 10% (at a guess, maybe 12%).

Overall very impressed.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cdmackay:
why not disable wlan and mobile data nets overnight? not much point unless you want to be woken by them. I added the HTC switcher widgets for both to the home screen to make it easier; look good too...

note that phone calls and SMS are still enabled; only the two data nets are disabled.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] joemax:
Because I don't lose enough battery to worry about it and I like to wake up, drink coffee and read the tweets and RSS feeds that have come in over night ;)

I was saying that my battery drain overnight has improved since stopping using Peep and switching to Twidroid.

:D

BTW, my WiFi is always off, but even if it was on, you can set it to turn off on 'screen off' anyway so effectively it should not use any power over night.

Oh, and 10% is just one block on the battery meter in Phone Status, whereas it used to be two.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cdmackay:
good stuff.

I don't mind turning it on manually and waiting a few mins for things to come in.

the screen-off thing doesn't work for me, since I want the wifi on contrinually during the day

glad yours is improved, all the same.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Huey85:
My battery life has actually IMPROVED since day one. I have WiFi and 3G Data always on, brightness set to auto, peep, babbler both have Background notifications on, 5-6 5min calls a day, an abundance of texts a day (anywhere ranging from 5 to 30), eBuddy'ing for about half an hour a day, tweeting/FB'ing about 40 mins a day (both on 3G and WiFi), WiFi browsing+Market about 20 mins a day, 3G browsing about 30 mins a day. Today, taking off charge at around 8:00AM, I'm left with 3/4 battery still remaining (@ 5:08PM now).

I should add that I try to drain my battery to about 15% before charging to ensure the life of my battery does not deplete so quickly.

EDIT: forgot to mention that Email (both Gmail and Exchange via RoadSync) is set to manual with no Background Notifications.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zoid_99:
I put my daughters SIM into my G1 and she is getting full data access. Her current service is for a samsung Gravity with unlimited SMS/MMS. My guess is that the MMS service uses the same APN so she is authorized to talk data for that reason. Should I worry about some weird data charges from T-Mobile if she uses this phone for the next week?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B-man007:
Somehow I had data usage and it activated for me too, but the data use did show up on my bill (it was too minute to charge for)

if you want to disable 3g/edge/grps, download apndroid from the market (idk how it will affect the MMS though)
[G1 General] nexx892:
Im in a little bit of a pinch. I never use voice and I use sip with 3g when I do.

So I thought of a solution.

I heard the sidekick could have just internet so...

To get your bill under 50 bucks you must have that.

I figured out how to have just a dataplan...

First go to t-mobile.com

And login

Stroll till you see this.

Then click the Not your phone link

Choose check sidekick.

Scroll down untill you see the green "t-mobile sidekick™" Click it.

Now it will go back to my t-mobile. scroll all the way down until the links at the bottom and click Plans & Services.

Click Change plan

Now scroll a little untill you see.

check the button and scroll all the way down and click change plan.

Now click manage.

press not my phone again

check t-mobile.

and scroll down untill you see your g1.
[G1 General] nexx892:
press the select button.

And congrats you are now paying less than 50 bucks for your g1 the sidekick plan will stay on even after you say its a g1 again :)...

Also to get no data plan chose some cheepy phone and in services click no data plan ... :)
[G1 General] lbcoder:
Any particular reason you dont select THIS plan: http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/....aspx?tp=tb1&rateplan=T-Mobile-Total-Internet ??

Its even cheaper.
[G1 General] supremeteam256:
But if your on a sidekick plan then won't they cut off the data. People were complaining that they had the sidekick plan or the web2go or one of the other data plans and it worked until not to long ago. Now the G1 data will only work under the G1/Android data plan or am I looking at something wrong. I can't see the pics so I might be missing something.
[G1 General] nexx892:
No I meant choose like a cheap ghetto phone that can have just voice to do that.

Anyway I don't know what phone has that total internet so...

idk
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] xiphyre:
Okay, so been reading up on this for a while. I'd like to think I'm pretty savvy when it comes to electronics. However, this is killing me. For some reason I can't get the Olipro 2.40 to load. I just want to mess with the rtask MFG stuff so I can tweak some of it. I've tried just about everything I could find from my good friend google all showing that what I'm doing should work, but it's not.

Just a break down of what I have:

Carrier: Alltel

Current Roms Downloaded: From stock with 1.40 radio, to DCD 1.6 and 2.0, also the newest available from HTC for the alltel version.

Radios: Basically all that I need, can't find them at the moment but I do have them.

As for computers have both a 64bit vista and just a regular xp box.

My problem is I can bounce around my SPL from the 1.06 stock to 1.20 olipro then to the no2chem 2.47. No matter which way I try to install my 2.40 olipro whether it's with the sd flash or computer flash it just won't do it. It will show 100% but still be the original SPL I had on it. So I try to go from 1.06 stock with everything -> Unlock to 1.20 add compatible rom/radio -> try for the 2.40 olipro yet still shows 1.20. -> Relock the phone add stock rom try to unlock straight to 2.40 with the new coke unlocker -> Some reason only unlocks to 1.20... Long story short, I'm getting frustrated..
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] drewcam888:
you are flashing olipro 2.4 correct. You are just running the .exe from your computer. You shouldn't be unzipping the .exe
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] xiphyre:
Yes I am flashing olipro 2.4, I don't have a .exe version of it downloaded? All I have are the RUU custom rom installer or whatever it's called. Unzipping an .exe? New to me, wasn't aware you could even do that.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] drewcam888:
get the .exe of 2.40. Just run the .exe.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SamJolly:
Hi All,

I have a Vodafone TP2. I was wondering what the best approach would be to get Sat Nav working on my TP2?

I am starting afresh here.. so no views on software etc although my VF may have a freebie ??? I will have to check..

Thanks in advance,

Sam
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] samstables:
I strongly suggest you start by using the forum ... I know it's been said before, and will be again, but honestly, just spend a bit of time looking at the threads already started - or use search for some GPS software brands.

I'll give you a heads up on two things I think are important:

1. There is currently no official way to get TomTom working on it as the TP2 is not supported by them yet. Of course many people do have TT working on their devices so it is obviously possible, if you know what I mean :)

2. Beware of the free Co-pilot demo - reading the various threads covering GPS systems on the TP2 shows that it's a bit of an A**E to remove (the latest update may not be removable at all from what I read today).

Good luck searching!