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[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] dhiral.v:
I am very interested in a lite WM 6.5 rom which has no extra applications added and is just basic and simple 6.5. However i do agree with hyellow with the Touchflo 3d, i do like the TF3D interface, i would like a rom which is basic WM 6.5 with a simple TF3D 2 interface.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] msc125:
i feel like there's plenty of TF3D roms out now, incl. lite TF3D, so a rom without TF3D would be great! i agree with your point 2- as few button presses as possible, that's why i love spb pocket plus and ms3- very customisable

i'm using norti's lite rom now, and even though it hasn't been developed in a while, it's fast, stable and dependable, just how a lite rom should be. i've customised it perfectly to my needs, and although i flash interesting roms, i always go back to nortis lite

i've tried 6.5lite roms too, and all seem slower than 6.1 lites. 6.1 is my preference until 6.5 bugs/ speed improves

as for suggestions/ what i would like;

- is it possible to use 'extendir'? if it works, performance gains could be big?

- include graphics drivers of some sort

- enable UC

- optimise some programs (like opera with ramdisc)

- speed/ memory tweaks

the lite roms of old are very sound, so i don't think it need differ much, maybe just update it when new builds are released?

As you can probably tell:o i'm very keen for a new lite rom! So thanks for asking opinions, and good luck with it, I look forward to it!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Muo:
I would thoroughly enjoy a lite rom, please share :D :D :D

which build are you currently using on your rom?

mobilevu also has a lite rom, although he hasn't updated in awhile (doesn't mean it isn't good!)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] therealreddavid:
Something I've got a severely bad habit of doing is writing a line in a post, and then editing it out with the intnetion of putting it back somehwere where it fits in better, but then forgetting to completely, and then finding myself wondering why people are contradicting what I said. I really have to stop it :o

Anyway, what I meant to put in my post was that my plan for the ROM is to bundle with it an installer app that installs apps in the same way that you'd maybe install components of something like MS Office or of a codec pack, where you just select the bits you want with a series of tickboxes, and the hit OK and wait ten minutes while the installer puts in everything you want. So, in its default state, the ROM would come simply with enough to do just phone, sms, and phonebook, and everything else would be an optional extra, camera and internet and the like inclusive. There'd actually be some pretty nifty advantages to doing it that way, since besides the obvious speed advantage, it'd mean that you'd be able to more-or-less customise the ROM to use whatever components you like. ie, it might all look like this:

--- Camera app

[ ] Omit

[o] Rhodium R3A cam (fastest load times)

[ ] HTC cam (slower to load, tap autofocus)

[ ] Made-up 3rd party camera app (etc)

--- Internet Browser

[ ] None

[x] Iris

[x] Opera 9.7b with onscreen keyboard

[ ] Opera 9.7b without onscreen keyboard

[x] Internet Explorer

--- Media Players

[x] None

[ ] Windows Media Player

[ ] Nitro

And so on, if that makes any sense. The other big advantage to doing it that way would be that apps wouldn't have to be bundled with the ROM, which means far less frequent ROM updates needed. Just the installer bundle app might need an update maybe once every few weeks or so, and then all's cool.

But it's all pretty much theory, curiosities, and pages of my notepad right now with only some basic rough builds knocked together, so I want to hear more thoughts from yourself and everyone else.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] therealreddavid:
Personally, I can't stand TF3D. I still don't understand why it's so popular, but then, I'm not going to argue with you guys, and I'll put the graft in and aim make it an option on the installer app for you.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] commodoor:
I read people discusing TF3D. If you want to built a lite rom you don't wanna put TF3D in it. i have currently wm6.5. and did som ram usage tests with home screens.

if you use TF3D the ram usage at cold start is 50% (that is very high for me)

the standard wm6.5 home is arround 36% ram usage

and if you don't use any home plugin (the old way) the ram usage is around 34%

so i suggest if its gonna be a wm6.5 lite version stick with the wm6.5 home.

And use R3 software from kovsky itself not to much from rhodium. the only things i like from fhodium are the volume control and the top bar tap that shows info. the rest isn't needed. for browser take the standard opera that comes with x1 for the zoom with volume buttons it makes zooming much easiyer. and don't put any extra software let users install there own software.

things that could be removed:

1. messenger

2. Windows live

3. widgets

4. IE

Try to not remove to much base software that makes the phone unstable and some functionalitys don't work anymore.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] msc125:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=547502

as per the above thread it seems 6.1 is the way to go still. the screenshots i've seen of the new 6.5 builds look good with the 'ok' button at the bottom, but 6.5 seems a step back. the start menu is just horrible, and the home screen doesn't make much sense to me.

i just flashed jack's rom, it's ram usage is 26%, and 29% with mobile shell 3, which isn't bad

the installer app is an excellent idea, that would top UC
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ryousuke:
for me what i'd like in a rom is manila default (remove titanium)

with panels

thats it...

maybe latest opera 9.7b with all the links in manila fixed up ^^
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] amandeepphull:
Personally,

I like just basic fuctionality (usual stable base) and a choice of Touch Flo or Titanium, because at the end of the day, we can get a cab file for everything else cant we? Microsoft MyPhone for online backup/sms or PimBackup or Sprite?

Google maps, facebook, opera, clean ram, iPlayer, and even windows live, why bloat the rom with software that many people dont use?

I like windows media player, but apart from that, i like having to install only what i need to a rom. Also, specifically to the Xperia X1, why do some ROM's have finger keyboard? We have a keyboard! lol, and if the Rom is good enough, screen rotation is pretty instant.

Also, with less programs included, we can install more to the card, leaving more free space on the phone.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ryousuke:
note sometimes if core files are removed... the .cab install file wont work

have noted some roms having issues with wlmessenger because it was removed completely...
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] devalian:
i got 2 kind of phone.. 1 is for daily call n sms.. xperia is for multi tasking.. so, my xperia never install lite rom b4 wan..sorry..
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] dhiral.v:
I think that manila makes WM much more interesting and is a good interface to have on top of WM. I suppose when you come to releasing the rom you can release two versions, one with manila and one without manila.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] msc125:
@therealreddavid

no pressure(!), but how's progress on the rom going?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Chaosstorm:
Oh and put in 'extendir' and the 3d drivers/tweaks :P

just STRIP EVERY THING that isnt neccesarry :P we can find our cabs if needed ;)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] leobg:
I am big fan of lite builds! I rather have base OS on which needed apps can be added. For example I don't like TF3D that much, I am bigger fan of the Titanium interface (seems lighter too).

The ideal rom for me would consist of the base which WM has + some extra stuff like dev certs, .NET3.5, Java VM. And everything else is add-able by a CAB file.

I am eager to see the ROM you are working on!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] msc125:
shameless bump! :D

anyone else looking for a new and improved lite rom?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] asayamalaka:
i am. i have been searching for months for a super super lite rom. the X1 is very laggy for a ~$600 phone, and i find this extremely unacceptable. i don't understand why people are so anti lite roms, or aren't interested in lite roms, because you can always add WHATEVER you want later on. i spend almost of my ''X1 reading time'' researching ways to make the X1 less laggy and more responsive.

i personally cannot stand the iPhone, but i will be the first to admit that the lil bastard is fast. too bad that's the only good thing about it....

i hope we can bring this thread back to life and inspire some mega-lite roms to be made.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] thgil:
Glad to see someone would like to build a LITE ROM! :p

Currently I'm looking for a lite version like (compare to the official ones):

[-] ALL unnecessary apps, games, panels. Leaving the support of panel is enough, we may install any panel with proper panel manager (X1 or X2) ourselves. Just let a phone be a phone, with all features of a phone. ;)

[+] Update any system runtime environment and/or driver if possible, ex., .Net Compact.

[*] Modify the system for more convenient usability, shipped with a proper tool is much appreciated.

And for me, a CJK-region support is important... Using a Japanese Dict and a Chinese IM, so... I'll be grateful is a CJK-region supporting "wince.nls" is build in if possible... I can handle the fonts myself. :D

BTW, forgive me for my English, absolutely not a native speaker...
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] jescca:
I like lite rom very much.and i am looking for it for a long time.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] vietdoan20062006:
yes. plz

vietdoan20062006
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] deepthroat:
well ... i dont know guys, full or lite ? the most important thing possibly to ensure application is really killed when we close it and there will be no memory leak after days of usage.

But if lite means minimum application cooked into the rom, then i agree TF3D will require a lot of files to be cooked in, but then still xperia has sufficient memory.

Start with your list of application should not be there, then learn to cook yourself ...start sharing with people on this forum and i believe they will start to complain why voice command is not working, why coreplayer is running so slow ... :confused:

Just my opinion though :D
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] cristidotro:
It will be awesome if will have a lite ROM with latest WM builds.

Will be nice if it will have only the Operating System and Xperia drivers (this will include the camera app). A simple dialer that will be fast.

No opera, no panels, no panel manager (in two moths I really don't used panels, only to show my friends the fishes), no themes.

This way everyone could customize his phone more easily.

I'm trying to make my own lite ROM but I don't figure how to use the kitchen (yet; there are a lot of folders, and for a new guy is hard to understand what files contains each folder). Hope I'll learn in the near future.

Cheers!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Typako:
There are a lot of great lite ROMs out there:

- Norti's ROM with original WM6.1 build,

- Jack 3.1 with newer WM6.1 build

- Jack 4.1 - WM6.5

- Unoff - newest 6.5 build + all SE staff

- Gtrab's barebone and pure

- Mobile-VU 6.5 superlite with an excelent UC collection.

- Christian also publishes lite version of his roms.

- Others I forget

I have tried most of these ROMs, but I decided to cook my own, mainly because I wanted to experiment, but also to make my device more functional and personalized.

I came up with 2 stable lite ROMs up to now, WM6.1 build 21051 and WM6.5 build 21885.

They both have no manila, no panels, no frequently updated apps like Opera and googlemaps, no SE crap, Only small tools, like FDC task manager and Modaco NoData and few HTC staff.

I've been using the WM6.1 ROM for 3 months. I switched to 21885 10 days ago. Both ROMs are equally stable and fast.

If some1 wants to test my ROMs, just tell me and I'll up them to RS. However, I strongly suggest trying the ones published and supported by the experienced cooks, especially Gtrab and Jack.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] duaneking:
i perfer 6.5.3 with only basic things like some tweaks to make it faster:D
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] farbird:
I am a linux user...

Anyone can share the howto or if there are any guides?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] origins81:
+1 bumping this thread
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] zambezy:
Second that...

http://www.koushikdutta.com/2009/08/build-configuration-for-t-mobile.html#links

He seems to have a script to compile the Kernel...

I don't know to what extent this would help us but it is a start. I dont quite know how the apps are installed on a new ROM....

It would be nice if someone can explain what is needed and what is optional in the kernel and some of the mods that other people are doing and how they integrate in the OS.

I see a lot of improvements in the new ROM's but no how-to on doing it your self. I thought that was the point of having open source OS.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] fxn:
I would quite like this as well =o)

Have made a bit of a start by following this:

http://source.android.com/download

Shows you how to get all the code and do a build.

I believe the next thing would be to pick the required files from the output folder of the build, dump the boot.img and replace the kernel with 32B or 32A one, add the Magic model config file (to ramdisk) and recreate the boot.img

Replace/Add any modules required like maybe wifi or bluetooth, then need to change the build.prop file and put it all in to update.zip and sign the file.

Haven't had time to test this out but seems kind of logical...maybe?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] elegos:
Hello!

I'm following the android.com tutorial, but I want to ask: how can I download the donut branch? There's no mention in the entire site about it... Also, the cyanomod's multitouch and so on, where does it come from? Is it made by himself or it's somewhere in the net?

Thanks :)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Cheesebaron:
Learn how to use GIT to get the donut branch from here: http://android.git.kernel.org/
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] L10nH34Rt:
Proble is that it doesn't specify the donut project path :p

Is there a command to list all project paths? I can't seem to find it :D
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] dmanbuhnik:
git branch -a

in any local git directory
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] elegos:
Ok, then so far I've downloaded the donut branch, and compiled too. What now?

1. how to create a ROM from the made files?

2. how to compile the kernel / how to replace the one created with the make command with the one I'm running on?

3. is there any option I can configure to fit my phone? (HTC Magic 32A)

4. how can I root my ROM?

thanks :)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] dmanbuhnik:
there is this guide that i have found:

http://www.koushikdutta.com/2009/08/build-configuration-for-t-mobile.html

'make' finished with success but i can't find how to transform it into 'update.zip' file...

anyone?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Cheesebaron:
It says that in the link you have posted yourself.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] hriday21:
Okay I need help.

I flashed a SU radio( I know stupid, cause it wasn't SU)

Well after flashing it my phone doesn't start, doesn't charge, can't enter bootloader, can't hard reset.

Is it bricked(cause I really don't know how to find out if it is.)

And if its not can someone please tell me how to get it fixed.!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] mancsoulja:
if you cant enter bootloader then yeah its bricked, ring htc and ask about a repair :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] hriday21:
Update

Well I just woke up and I tried switching my phone and what would you know it worked but it kept switching itself off as soon as Touch Diamond was shown. So I entered bootloader and I flashed the EnergyRom and the phone restarted itself and on the starts screen my Radio was mentioned as "1.20 Olinex" and my prtocol was 52.55a something. And also there was a "G" in the bottom left corner after which it went to customization where it switched itself off again and now I can't switch it on again what do I do. :S
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] caudex:
If you can, next time when it starts to work again, Try flashing the Radio to a proper one, then flash your hardspl again, then install a new rom.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] hriday21:
Hey thanks a lot everyone I had to flash a stock ROM and everything started working perfectly again but I still wonder what had gone wrong. hmm. thanks a lot anyways guys.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] utak3r:
OK guys... if you like to live on the edge, here's something for you to try: completely experimental ROMs.

One word of warning: this is not tested and no support from me on this! If you're going to post about a bug - then include a fix for it, if you don't have one - DON'T write at all!

Have an eye on this post, as I'm constantly experimenting and uploading various test images, if you want to try out some new features, before they get into my production ROM.

TouchFLO 2D - Manila

I've dissasembled some asian ROM for HTC Mega - and here comes the brand new build of TF2D. There're some really nice news in it - but not everything is working yet, so beware!

​

The link to download is here.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] nurkamol:
hi utak3r,can u upload kitchen of this experimental ROM :)

i'm just downloaded this build from Da_G's thread :), & me soo hardly work in ervius's kitchen tool, but i'm before worked on old kitchen school :)

thanx :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] utak3r:
Well, not really, sorry. It's just it's a subset of my main kitchen, reorganized for a moment - and I've already returned to its normal state - so no 23034 kitchen ;)

Just be patient, I'm cleaning my kitchen right now, so I should release it anytime soon :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] dariodisgusto:
i like it very much! but i can't open messages :( :(:(:(:(:(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] utak3r:
yep, I saw it. It's a bug of this build, unfortunately. Use some external app for SMSes, it will work.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] utak3r:
Second one is based on 23017 - and is loaded with Manila 2.0 taken from HTC Mega, just few edits from me to this, giving you more RAM and speed :)

You can download it from here.

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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] utak3r:
Fix: CommManager can't turn on/off WiFi:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\CommManager\WLAN]
@="\\Windows\\WLanMgr.exe"
"DeviceName"="{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}\\TIACXWLN1"
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] + Que PPC:
Nice shot Utak3r!!!! a clean build!!!!

I dont have sms issues... maybe you delete the webview in sys its almost the issue it causes...

Nurkamol did you find a FTP server?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] utak3r:
Nope, I left it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] eiben_robert:
CommManager can not open Bluetooth

Hello

Just got a Hermes, tried some WM 6.5 rom's and settled for this 23017 + Manila 2.0. It is quite usable and the UI is very nice. It seem to keep a good 14 to 16 Mb free RAM even after some days of use (21-22 at startup), enough for my needs.

Some small bugs which I found:

- in the Messages tab -> right softkey (Menu) -> "New message" does not work. You can create messages though by entering "All mesages" and then selecting new message.

- CommManager can not open Bluetooth "Can't turn on bluetooth". If somebody knows a reg fix for this please let me know.

- CommManager fix for the Wifi works only from time to time (quite strange actually)

Robert
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] utak3r:
yep, I know, but I don't know Manila to well to fix it - maybe someone else?...

I'll check it.

huh? That's really strange :confused:

I have a ready to go new version of manila release. I'll check this BT thing and I'll release it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] eiben_robert:
utak3r, if any service provider would be at least half as fast as you in responding we would be in a much better world :)

Regarding the Wifi topic: I made the fix, soft reset and it is not working (Wifi gray in the CommManager). If I turn Wifi on via Quickmenu it will appear also "On" in the CommManager but still gray. I attached also two pictures.

On the other hand yesterday it started working Ok after some time but I do not know why / how...

Thanks in advance.

Robert
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] pukhtoon:
hey utak3r can u upload a newer build of 6.5 like 23037 clear ms build i wanna test that out with the sd card coustomisation. would be reali appriciated.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] eiben_robert:
Related to the Wifi issue ("even after fix Wifi button is sometimes disabled in the CommManager"): it seems this happens when the phone is connected to the computer and activesync is running. As soon as I disconnect it, the Wifi button works again. I don't know if this is a Manilla feature or a bug (meaning undocumented feature :) )

Otherwise very stable release, even after some days of use (phone / mobipocket / opera mini / Skyfire) there is still some 15 Mb free RAM.

Robert
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] I[E:
that's how it's supposed to work

active sync disables the wifi and the phone should still have internet connectivity shared through activesync
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] utak3r:
unless you check the checkbox "allow wireless connections..." :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] I[E:
true, true.

any closer to releasing your kitchen? i lost my setup a couple weeks ago when my hard drive died
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] utak3r:
I've had almost no time this week, so I haven't done anything about it... but I think I need around 2 or 3 days, so maybe somewhere in the next week it would be ready :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] I[E:
cool! thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] utak3r:
OK guys, another one, based on build 23409. It's a clear MS build, almost no changes from me - only few additions (various networking apps and so on). You can download it from here. Have fun! :D

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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] pukhtoon:
thanks man just wat im looking for i havent check it yet. but if its a winmo 6.5 latest build and its stock i like it.thanks in advance.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] utak3r:
Yes, it's the latest build. It's not exactly a stock one - but almost ;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] pukhtoon:
ok i got a qustion ryt. do u think stock roms hav more space left over then custom roms. on average. or do u hav to strip roms to make then hav more space left over. because im thinkin of installin all ma programs on the sd card n leave the phone like it is. u reckon thas posssible.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] pukhtoon:
man i tried ur rom man its buggy n stuff. u must of been in a hurry.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] utak3r:
It depends....

Some custom ROMs have more space - some less.

For example: I'm taking many things out of the stock ROM, but I'm giving it quite few my ones...

Now go and read the first post once more....

And... if you can't tell me, what's those "bugs" - don't tell anything, it's a totally useless post from you. If you want to tell anything: tell us, what those bugs are.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] pukhtoon:
like the start bar doesnt open after somthing has been excuted. and in one of the post on the front page of xda site i saw a screen shot of a new windows media player.is it new or just a different skin.