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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] toasty_:
don't think android is or will be death. The only thing is that closed source apps from Google (GMail, Google Talk, Google Market) won't no longer be in the roms.

i would say "yes". but i think its in the hands of htc (and not google) to forbid the use of hero ui on other devices.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Newbie16:
But without gmail and the market i think using android is pointless.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] the-nj:
just tried it...

hey...

so i just downloaded the latest bundle and i have to say...once it booted its just awesome!!!

i love it!

but its very slow...

and thats the only reason for me not to use it cuz it takes such along time to do things...

but ill keep on that maybe therell be a newer bundle son wich is faster or whatever..xD

nick
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] toasty_:
I only said, that developers dont install these parts in their roms. I you want to use these apps you can put them by your own in the roms. This is maybe difficult but the most people are using android are also able to use linux and are able to mod this images
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] siemensfun1:
thanks, this is great ROM.

WI-FI works.

i just put it to charge my AT&T Tilt.

but it is slow :(

i hope next rom's will little fast.

thanks man for this great work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] -Arturo-:
WM 6.5 build 23052 and radio 1.71.09.01.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 160bpm:
Hi

You can disable the HERO skin and then the build is very fast ..

I using it now for couple of days...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] allmadden365:
how do you do that? sorry im new to this stuff :confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 160bpm:
A normail usage tip/hint/tweak (maybe everyone knows already)

When you remove the default on TouchFLO in application management.

When you reboot you can select between normal StartPage of Hero TouchFLO

You can switch between 2 layouts using the wnw button (right of the windows button)

then you can select you want Hero or startPage
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Newbie16:
Cyanogen is going to use replacement apps, which is fine by me:

http://www.cyanogenmod.com/home/the-current-state
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] robneymcplum:
Erm....

How do you reboot? Do you mean soft reseting and re-opening haret? If so then ignore me. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] allmadden365:
thanks man
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
no need to reboot. you simply clear Touchflo as the default then press the Home button which could be the IE button or maybe the Start button on the faceplate depending on your setup. It will ask you each time unless you check to set a default.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 160bpm:
Thats right... :)... was forget to remove that line.. :rolleyes:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Dukenukemx:
The story even made it to Slashdot.org.

http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/09...-Modder-Tries-To-Outmaneuver-Google?art_pos=7
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lamaz:
Just wanted to say thank you. Removing TouchFlo from Android makes this user interface much faster.

Gracias,

LamaZ
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] empy16:
Hello

Is it me, or is the screen kinda numb? WinMo works perfectly, here in Android I have to press very hard, and scroll is barely working. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] archongtv:
I've got kaiser-hero-100909 build and I would like to know what are the best settings for hero.user.conf?I'm suffering for long-time-waiting for homescreen to load.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] archongtv:
Does mms work?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KevinAlbrecht:
I have loaded bundle 100909, and for the life of me I cannot get a data connection. Phone works, Wifi appears to work(prompts for WEP key), but I have no internet.

I am using ATT as a carier, with a MediaNet data plan. Can somebody post what the connections should be in the default.txt file?

Also, after I change any of my settings, do I need to delete the data file? - Thanks

- Kevin
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KevinAlbrecht:
Got them. I hope this link helps the next one:

http://www.androidonhtc.com/carrier_network_settings
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] allmadden365:
OMFG why when i turned my phone off it went straight back to wm6? :confused::confused::confused::confused::mad:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
>OMFG why when i turned my phone off it went straight back to wm6?

really? that's never happened to me
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] allmadden365:
any ideas? thats 30 mins down the drain :rolleyes:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
This:

"Currently, Android is booted from within Windows Mobile. It does not run INSIDE Windows Mobile nor is it emulated! An application named HaRET is used as a bootloader to REBOOT the device into Android."
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] allmadden365:
so what do i do?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] boyla001:
Run HaRET every time you wan to run Android.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] allmadden365:
:eek:is that the only way? cant somebody make this into a rom.. sorry if i sound stupid cuz idk all this stuff
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ljinsane:
YOU NEED TO READ...that what EVERYBODY ELSE did....and you wont sound stupid when asking REAL questions:cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
Would you want a ROM that doesnt support some of the kaiser hardware(bluetooth, camera) to be on the embedded flash, with the risk of bricking your phone trying new builds.. which gets released daily. The bootloader on top of windows is safer, and much easier for trying new kernels, builds ect. Windows is cleared from the memory and it boots linux on your SD card. Once you reboot, its back to windows. 100% safe, and more practical for development and testing on a OS that doesnt fully support our hardware yet.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
If you don't have 40MB+ of compcache swap in use, it will crawl. Check the output of "free" in the terminal/ADB and check on it. HTC apps are heavy and each build has its own tolerance. I just can't wait for Donut to get fixed up a little. Tattoo seems like a nice compromise for Hero's overall look and once it's ready for daily use (by my standards), I'll be working on themes to make it look a little less cheap.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmcnano:
what exactly should it be a "good" output.

Also, should I activate compache swap in the conf file?

Could you quote your hero.conf file?? I installed the hero build and its so damn slow....so so slow..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Identical to basefiles-20090919-v2 but with "cc_disksize=101" and that's with no partition or swap file. After using the phone, it's sleeping plugged in and is about 50/50 free and used on the compcache disk.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmcnano:
should ask in my last post, but..which build are you using anyway?? 100909???
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
At the moment, Jester Blur ported by Zenulator. About to try Evil in a minute though.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 160bpm:
Try to use the latest build and al the latest files.

only thing that not will work is the correct setting for the screen of Kaiser.

w=320 h=480 lcd=160 (yes yes... used shortnames not whole line for example)

there is 1 setting that is working but everything is big..... :) haha

can someone can post maybe some options with the right ratio W/H/L ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kentooi87:
Hero for kaiser

i tried the latest build of hero on my kaiser...but it is damn slow and it will show up message sent failed when u send a text message but the message is sent out ...i search through the forum i found some ppl use micro hero on kaiser and it may work faster...may i knw which build of hero is the best so far and important is the WIFI is work...sorry 1st if i post a stupid question...but i really eager to use hero on my kaiser...:p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] szymonunion:
Hello,

I installed 100909, but:

- ringtones cannot be changed - before it was a list of ringtones - now I see only circle with rectangle inside and text RINGTONES and it is all

- all notifications are set to be visible - today I got 2 missed calls - no notifications at all.

- I disabled TouchFlo and I am using Home - works nice :)

Regards,

edit: after 2nd start I can change ringtones, but some of them are 2-3 times on the list ?!?! Notifications also are changeable now. Battery drain is huge! I do not have 3G nor any other things draining my phone...

edit: after using few(!) times: sound is crappy, OS is still slow, response is @#$^&*$%
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
use the zImage from 10/11 or newer
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lupick:
Could you provide a download link??

thanks

L.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Sorted in descending order by date:

vogue-android Google Code
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 160bpm:
Hi All,

Does someone have try the latest build on the Vogue site:

http://code.google.com/p/vogue-hero...05.6_WWE_release_signed_NoDriver.exe&can=2&q=

You must do follow:

"second dump for htc click/tattoo window executable ruu installer. don't try to flash it. run it and the rom.zip will be extracted in you windows temp dir. unzip rom.zip and use the utilities posted here to extract the yaffs system.img and boot.img"

But i'm not that technical so does not know how to extract. I'm a lazy WinVista user :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
You run the exe, it will create a temporary folder while it's running, probably c:\temp\### that will have a rom.zip file. You should be able to take it from there
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 160bpm:
Hi Guys,

Sorry... did not look well.. See now the ROM.ZIP :) my fault..:rolleyes:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] szymonunion:
enatefox,

what files I should use to fix my problems I wrote about few days ago? Last files from this link you provided few posts before ???

Regards,

edit: I used zImage from 13102009 and last basefiles. These were connected with kaiser 100909 (as every1 can see in sig) and I changed some things in default.txt (attached) :)

edit:not booting now: rootfs, initrd.gz and zImage taken from basefiles-20091009...

edit: kaiser-hero-100909 dl'ed again - booting now :)

edit: 2% of battery (99% -> 97%) in 30 minutes ??? Syncing is off, options in default.txt about panel are set OK , what is goin' on?!?!

edit: 79% of battery left... after 2h... :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Metsadah:
its working for me, but my pin isnt working. I cant find a work around for this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
FAQ: Disable pin in WM
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Metsadah:
sorry, should have readed the topic better. It works now without pin. Although I kinda crashed directly. Is the current build already the optimized hero? (like in the lighter and faster version)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] niru1978:
kaiser-hero-100909 on polaris

Hello all,

after many tries and stuff with all the androids available, I finally was able to install kaiser-hero-100909 on my polaris (POLA100) without any popup errors..

it is slower than ION but I wanted the look of hero :D anyways... I wanted to know how do I start the wifi with the system image from kaiser-hero-100909.

because android without internet access is like fish out of the water!!!!

please help

thanks in advance...

Niranjan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xxbabiboi228xx:
You use the latest basefiles from google code page for wifi mainly its the rootfs file that enables wifi

http://code.google.com/p/vogue-hero/downloads/detail?name=basefiles-20091009.zip&can=2&q=
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Latest as of 10-17-09

Kernels

zImage 10-15-09 kb7sqi

KB7SQI's zImage based on dzo's 15-10-09 build w/ lzo/compcache-0.5.4 swap_free_notify patch Must use w/ his rootfs.img ***

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zImage 10-15-09:

Kernel (rename to zImage) improved camera for Kaiser/Polaris

Rootfs (Base files have Pmos69's latest below)

rootfs.img kb7sqi

KB7SQI's modified rootfs-15-10-09v3.img w/ latest compcache-0.5.4-test2 w/ swap_free_notify support. Used with his kernel above ***

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Base files

Rootfs 10-16-09:

Fake sensor library lets you use the touch screen in apps that have tilt controls for ION ONLY but this is the latest one. Full camera resolution when used with above kernel. Wifi, etc. should work but I haven't personally tested it.

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Rootfs 10-15-09v3:

Pmos69's. Wifi for Tattoo and Donut. Full camera resolution when used with above kernel. Replaces v2.

System Images. All are to be named "system" plus the extension-- img, ext2, sqsh

Sprint Hero + Empty Data Image If Needed:

System -- Data

Calls will barely work for GSM users at this point. CDMA users should have no problems. Wifi does not work, here for testing and definitely for development.

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Kb7sqi's Magic Mod Themed:

Latest KB7SQI's Magic Mod Themed with Flash, Java, Exchange, Arabic Support and addons from Sprint/Blur. No Rosie but definately worth trying out.

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Blurry Hero:

BlurHero. Hero with some blur additions. Personally recommended.

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Motoblur:

Motoblur V0.6 - still has power key issue. This is not Rosie but has its own SenseUI.

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JACxHeroSki 1.6r2a:

JACxHeroSki 1.6r2a. Used in the video on Zenulator's first post for Hero. Personally recommended.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MiZi666:
new android market

it is possible to install the new market on any systems? like the blurry hero (love this..)?

when it's possible, how do i install it/remove the old market?

or can someone build it into a blurry hero? or any blurry sys..?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KevinAlbrecht:
Can you tell me how to get each of these versions to work on my kaiser? Can I rename these .sqsh files to 'System.sqsh'? I am trying out 100909. - Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Just like any other one. Extract basefiles, copy kernel (zImage), put one of the system images and boot.

You have to name them system.sqsh or .img or .ext2. Basefiles + zImage + System.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] giovann1:
Hi guys! ive installed android 1.5 firmware but my phone cannot find a network area and i cant see contact list; android said me " network or SIM card error" , plz help me
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] giovann1:
... (continue)...

i miss...

that the bluetooth and the wifi, don't work each.

ty for support
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] szymonunion:
giovann1,

you forgot to write what device you have, which files were installed. Read posts on this page from enatefox - there are the newest versions.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] giovann1:
ok and that will solve my problem of networking?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] giovann1:
ive kaiser tytn2 win mob 6.1

|| with rom version UdK 8.0 vega ita

|| radio ver. 1.65.14.06

|| protocoll ver. 25.81.40.02W
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] giovann1:
ive partitioned sd to 512 mb fat 32 , but when im istalling android an error occured and the installer said :

" /dev/block/loop2: no such file or directory " ,

" faild to find rootfs.img on sd card " (but ive rootfs.img on sd)

"/bin/sh cant acces , job controll turned off"

ty for support
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ihvarrived:
reinstall windows

i installed hero os on my tytnii. it doesn't look as good as on HTC Hero.

how do i reinstall windows on the phone.

Please reply
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
ihvarrived, press the button on the bottom of your phone next to the USB plug.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] giovann1:
soft reset button?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] grzybu:
hi everyone, as Im a noob in this stuff, can someone tell me what things i need to download to get the newest version of Android on my Kaiser?? and is the WiFi workin on it?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] giovann1:
1.5 search to google "how install android on kaiser" u ll find all what u need :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] giovann1:
ok i ve pressed 2 times this button and the install blocked another time, now the installer said msn_hsusd_set_vbus_state (0)

the installer dont want to go foreward ,

ty for support
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] giovann1:
ive connect usb cable and then the installer said me "set adress to 4" but i won't go foreward
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] giovann1:
mmm , ive retry the install 4 times but it is stopped at the same step this--->
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
And you have all the files on the 512MB partition right? Windows hiding extensions? This is 10/10 times user error when it can't find a file.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] giovann1:
yeah extension are hided , how i can reveal extensions on win mobile?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] giovann1:
ive installed a plugin that shows explore file extensions, but the problem is not solved --->
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
List the root of you SD card
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] giovann1:
in the 512 mb partition fat 32:

- media

- default.txt

- haret.exe

- hero.user.conf

- initrd.gz

- ion.user.conf

- roger.user.conf

- rootfs.img

- sistem.sqsh

- zimage
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
system.sqsh and not sistem.sqsh right? Is the FAT partition the first one? If not, there's your problem
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] giovann1:
no the partition is the second one , i must invert the partition?

im sorry is system not sistem , my type error :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Ok, has to be the first partition always.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garynsa:
can you provide the steps for partition

thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] n0r:
im very interested in this one 2!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] giovann1:
ok now hero works, but it is too slow , the network of calls and SMS works, but hero cant read my Contact list fro Sim card, how i can do to solve this matter?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Biglittlewhateva:
Saw this and couldn't resist. Attempting a first boot now and so far, so good! :)

Wow, this is pretty sweet.

I must say, this is prettier than anything else I've seen for the Kaiser. Obviously it's not perfect but, what is. It is somewhat slow but, no slower than a bad 6.1 ROM ;) It ran perfect the first time.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ChrisSpera:
K... I have a silly question. I looked through the entire thread and didn't see this question asked. If I missed it and this has been asked and/or answered, I apologize.

Is there anyway to get this flashed to the device so it boots to Android natively? It might be nice to run this device with this all the time...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Razva:
Short version: no :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] One who observes:
Is there any way of importing your current contacts and text messages?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] oscarbum:
Running on Tilt with latest PDACornerUltimate ROM.

Running near perfect (for someone who rarely uses the phone camera and never uses WiFi). Thank you for this.

There are 2 odd quirks.

1. It vibrates on every SMS. Can't find where to turn it off. I found it for when the phone rings, but not for text messages. I'm sure there's a setting I'm just not seeing.

EDIT: The option to turn off Vibrate is within the SMS app itself and not the general Sound settings.

2. Whenever I send a text message, I get a text back that says "Message Not Sent" and the phone vibrates twice (God, I hate that noise), but the person I'm sending the message to actually does receive it. Is this a common issue for people? (The "message not sent" part, not the insufferable vibrating noise)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Biglittlewhateva:
I was just about to ask that. :p It doesn't seem to see my sim contacts. :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Razva:
Contacts yes, sync them - from WinMo - with Google using Google Sync (http://www.google.com/mobile/products/sync.html#p=winmo) than sync Android with Google. Don't forget to BACKUP YOUR DATA in WinMo - I recommend PIM Backup - in case the sync goes crazy.

Regarding the messages, I don't know, but I suppose it's not possible as they are stored in a WinMo specific file.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Razva:
1. No ideea, dig in the settings...I suppose you'll find something there...

2. Yes, it is a known issue, right now it isn't fixed by the coders. Your message IS SENT, still Android reports that it wasn't sent.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ChrisSpera:
Awesome.

Are there plans to take this there? Just curious... Thanks to all for all their hard work and help!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Razva:
Well...a native bootloader would be great, but still I think it's not a vital point of the builds for the coders. I think that making WiFi and Camera work, see the SIM contacts, etc are more important for the coders and for the community.

Still, I suppose that someday we'll see a native bootloader for Android on WinMo devices.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Biglittlewhateva:
Man, what a bittersweet thing this is for me. I have no data plan, andriod doesn't seem to see a PC connection (or my SIM) and the WiFi, be it functional or not, does me no good at home because I have no wireless router. ARGGGHHH!!! So, I can't sync any contacts and have no access to weather data. Any suggestions on how to resolve my dilemma?

I love this UI too. :(

And AT$T goes up in you if you connect without a data plan :eek:

Another question would be, how do you kill the audio manager after you've started it, or will it constantly run as a process?