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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] eep02b:
iGO 8

What program is iGo 8 and is it for the US? Ive goggle searched it and cant find it with US maps. And is it a program that downloads the maps ota or are they saved on the card??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] jezi:
igo8 beats tomtom and garmin combined!

Don't forget to include igo8, it will blow both Garmin and TomTom away! You also get the 8gb microsd w/ about 2GB software in it and the rest of the space can be used for music and other app and can be transferred to other WM6.5 phones!:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] jezi:
They sell it at buygpsnow.com map of entire US & Canada on 2, 4, 8GB(RECOMMENDED so you got extra space for music and other apps!) microsd and shows where you are on the globe too, great for sailors!:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] jumpnjoeyz:
If you have the the garmin bluetooth reciever you can download the software from their site and put it on any card you want. I transfer my software from one card to another. I even you one card in multiple devices and it works just fine. You can download any set up maps you would like and put them in the garmin folder. Just need to make sure the maps are unlocked. Very easy program to use and clean.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] jumpnjoeyz:
Garmin and Bluetooth problems

I use garmin mobile xt with my touch pro 2 and seem to have problems with the gps receiver connecting to the phone. In all previous phones I have had you run the software on the phone and it turns on the bluetooth and recognizes the receiver. With the bluetooth stack on my sprint touch pro 2 I have to go into the bluetooth stack and connect the phone to the gps receiver manually then open the garmin software on the phone in order for the phone to see the gps receiver. Anyone else having this problem? This is after i have the device paired it still doesn't see the gps receiver from the garmin program unless I connect it first through the bluetooth stack?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] voyager529:
Delorme Street Atlas is $39, runs near-flawlessly on this device, does custom maps, GPS, and it's purchased with the full-blown PC app that is second to none when you're on a PC. (No, I don't work for Delorme, but when they can make an app for $40 that doesn't require a standard SD card and gets me everywhere I wanna go, they're doing something right.)

Joey
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] CIPuyleart:
I use SA2009 on my phone - but only to load Topo maps from Delome Topo for hiking/hunting. I've just found the Garmin interface much easier to use.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] viper8u2:
I know exactly where that is, live on the north side myself
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Arcarsenal:
I really like this skin. I've having trouble getting it to install on my TP2 - I think it's the sys.txt file. Could you share the contents of your sys.txt so I can see your settings?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Arcarsenal:
Thanks a bunch; looks like I got the skin to load but I'm going to have to spend some time tweaking my install, or just reinstall all together because of a few weird errors. Thanks again!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] dezoris:
Garmin locks down the application with serial numbers on the map pack and application so when you copy it to a larger card it prompts you to register it.

But like everything there is a way around it a simple google search will help with that. I was able to move it to my 8GB stick problem solved and works great.

If Garmin was smart they would just put the stupid program on a large card and be done with people copying and using keygens.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] ottomatic:
http://www.navngo.com/pages/global/eng/igo_8_description

Can owners copy iGo8 to my own larger sd card?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] kiwiruss:
IGuidance 2009 !

you need to include this one. I use it and it says the street names and is really good.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] thinhvo:
Any US Tmobile PRO2 users experience zero free lag? (Lag as in being 1-2 seconds behind of the actual route) I would like the TP2 to be my one and only device but the GPS is holding me back so I often resort back to the MyTouch 3G to use the copilot.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] noggind614:
get a mini bluetooth gps receiver and just mount it on your dashboard. i got one for my fuze and i haven't had any lag since and super fast lock times.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] cdmoore74:
I have a mini bluetooth gps module too and I do find it more reliable and faster without the need to resort to aGps or tweaks. The down fault is that you now have to carry and charge a second device. I plan on keeplng the dongle tied to my car keys while using the built in gps for google maps/non critical gps use. I went on amazon and noticed that they have 32 plus channel bluetooth dongles for about $40 with cold starts under 35 seconds. Battery life too was impressive at 17 to 23 hours.

The tp2 has a working gps unit but I just don't think a phone gps chip was meant for hardcore gps use. My old vx6900 gps works fine with no lag but I always carried the dongle just in case. Verizon decided one day to block agps for what ever reason and I was left poor/no gps locks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] EazyVG:
iGO 8.3 for Russia and Europe, and MioMap Black Edition for India.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] magog420:
Garmin Mobile XT users here
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] eurorpeen:
Igo is one of the only Windows Mobile software that I have seen that spread not himself everywhere.

You can copy the folder Igo and its content everywhere, to the rom, to an sd card, even to another pda without losing is usability. Everything is in this folder.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] cdguider:
LOL

Same goes with GARMIN,
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] :
Navigon & AmazeGPS & Trial versions of TomTom and CoPilot...?

Hi all.

I'm new here so I ask for a little patience :)

I've been following this thread with a view to ultimately buying GPS navigation software for my unbranded HTC Touch Pro 2.

Having read so much useful content, I've tried AmazeGPS and Navigon.

Navigon was quite good. Good clear maps (I only needed UK), full postal code, step by step announcements and very easy to get used to.

However....there were serious problems with the audio announcements. Most failed or only came through part way through the announcement. It was especially bad over a bluetooth headset (Sennheiser VX100)

No way to amend announcements - so if you miss an announcement there are no repeats....

Lastly poor support and communications.

AmazeGPS was very odd. Took and age to familiarise myself with it's working and then afterwards it hogged the GPS radio so that no other app could use GPS. I never actually managed to use it for navigation and I quickly uninstalled it.

However I'd like to try both TomTom and CoPilot. Other seem to have tried them so I'm assuming that there are trial versions available somewhere. The main sites and their support staff don't have the information and don't respond to requests.

btw if anyone else has tried Navigon and had problems with Bluetooth please let me know...

Thanks in advance :-)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] carhigh:
Ive tried TT7. It was ok. Then i tried gamin and what a difference. I dont have the touch pro 2, yet. Just working with a kaiser still. I just wanted to mention, since i was here reading this, the best part for me in garmin is, LAKE MAPS!!!!

Sure, i have to rename my usa maps, and rename my lake maps to use them when on the water, but its just so cool that after selling the big bass boat with the gps/chart plotter/fish finders, i now have something on my phone that tells me where i am on the lake and how friggin deep it is under the little tiny pond hoper boat i have now. Its JUST to damn bad it cant located fish for me :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] victor4o:
iGO 8.3 or newer. You are missing big time people...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] togo33:
Static Maps

I'm just looking into GPS for my Touch Pro 2 as well. This thread has been great. My question is in regards to software like the Garmin that has static maps. Does this end up being a problem with having current data? Construction, businesses coming and going, etc?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] cdguider:
Garmin works fine

Had no problems with Garmin, using the latest maps, I get traffic updates, can't complain. No Problems.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] vwauditech:
GPS spftware on Tilt 2

I have been using Nav N Go iGO 8.32.93112 June 8, 2009 version on my Tilt 2 without problems. I used the same install and files from my Tilt.

I also have Garmin XT 2009 installed. I do really like both of these applications. They both get the job done well. Garmin is a very nice program with a very clean uncluttered screen.

My absolute favorite is the Navigon. It is so much better looking than any of the others out there in my opinion. I am working on getting it working on the Tilt2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Entropy512:
Not in my experience. Garmin Mobile XT comes with a license file that is locked to the SD card. Move it to another SD card and it will only work with a Garmin Bluetooth GPS receiver.

There are ways to fix this, but they are not legal.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] iceman4357:
there was not even an option for Igo8? FAIL!!

I love my Igo8! I use it all the time, and its really cool to have the 3d buildings to reference.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] sancmat:
OnCourse navigator/IGO8

I am an Ex Garmin and Ex Tom Tom User. I have OnCourse Navigator 8.3(Which is the rebranded North American IGO). My vote is definatly for IGO with Garmin in second place (The 2gb card limit was a huge issue for me) Heck IGO's 8gb card limit is still an issue for me but I live with it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] kano69:
you dont have to buy it. you can hack it to have the free version. all you need its an 8 or 16g so you dont have to worrry about swapping out your storage card everytime.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] rruffman:
Yes its some what protected there is two files that has to be in the gramin folder one is to unlock the maps and the other is to unlock the program the serial in each file will change from memory card to memory as it uses the factory serial code stored on the memory card to create its codes for each file.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] djavolak:
i have a question , which GPS software is better for the ExYu , Adria maps...Garmin or TomTom...which has better maps availability?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] rajuabju:
Ok, change my vote from TomTom to Garmin!

I just tried it and its 10x better than TomTom.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] judicious:
does anyone have the cab file to garmin mobile xt?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] gadgetcollector:
I looked at the website but there's no US map, only Europe maps. where to buy iGO8 with US map?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] sancmat:
IGO 8 for north america is called OnCourse Naviator 8.3 (8 exists but 8.3 is required for WVGA)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] gadgetcollector:
are the 3D buildings views available for any tall buildings anywhere? or only limited to only big cities such as Las Vegas, NY, LA etc.

Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] kk0813:
I asked this question in a different post, but this looks the right place to ask this question. Is any one using Iguidance 2009. I was using it on ATT Fuze and it worked great. Now I am using it on Tilt2. It's not using the entire screen while in menu mode, but while driving it goes to full screen and and uses the entire WVGA screen. But the problem is TTS is not working in Tilt2. Any have this issue?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] sancmat:
I am in the minneapolis area. Tall 3d buildings works in the downtown area for OnCourse Navigator 8.3.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] dik23:
I tried Garmin, lots of POIs but apart from that it was terrible.

TomTom seems to be marketed towards my mum, more than a little dumbed down.

Google Maps is an excellent program, however anyone who thinks is good for SatNav (ie whilst driving) should really try a proper SatNav application.

My misses uses McGuider on her Nokia and that seems good .

However my favorite has to be iGo or whatever branding it may have. Don't really understand why neither of the apps I rate are options.

Ho hum
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] magic_mushy:
Has anyone tried Destinator 9?

I've got Destinator 3 on another HTC phone... It used to be the most accurate set of maps for Oz...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] judicious:
using tomtom 7.9 and works great in california - bay area...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] pdafish:
OnCourse Navigator 8.3 on microSD card

It appears that many feel OnCourse Navigator 8.3 is excellent for US GPS nav - however, it seems that the only way to purchase it is preloaded on a microSD card. I have a high capacity microSd and would prefer to put the program on my card - does anyone know if you can simply buy the program on the least expensive microSd (2gb) and then transfer it to a larger card after purchase?

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Telek:
If you read through the thread again I'm pretty sure that people have been saying that you can copy it anywhere as long as it's in it's entirety.

Which makes you wonder why they don't just offer a download package...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] nikosar:
Garmin is a good application but i experience a lag problem.When i am driving it does not show the exact position i am on the road but it is 3 to 4 seconds behind from where i am, which is annoying when you are driving and therefore it does not give correct instructions.Do you know if that can be fixed?If there wasn't that problem Garmin would be the best application.Otherwise IGO 8 is much better!!!!!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Telek:
That's not so much an issue with the software as it is with the hardware. There are tweaks that you can do to improve the GPS performance, but it's not going to be as good as a dedicated unit.

I'm not really sure why this is an issue though - as long as you know that it's a little slow what difference does 1-2 seconds make? So when it tells you that you have 700ft until your next turn it really means 600. I haven't really found it to be that much of a problem really.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] sancmat:
I don't know if people have hacked IGO but I can confirm that I move dthe files from the 8 gb card to a 16 gb card and it did not work. IGO 8.3 is locked to the sd card they sold it to you on. But at least it comes on an 8gb card. I begged them for a 16gb card but they had no intention of selling it with one.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Telek:
What happened when you tried it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] sancmat:
I don't understand why people are saying that OCN 8.3 does not support TTS. It works great for me. I had to uninstall and reinstall to get it working but now life is wonderfull.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] RemE:
My 2 cents, I've been using pda GPS for about 10 years now. I did some beta work with IGuidance and have used it thru many generations. I also used CoPilot early on but left them for better map data (Navtec based products). When Garmin, IGuidance, and others went to locked memory cards I contacted each directly and told them that I was never going to juggle memory cards in the field and that they could pound sand before I'll use their products again until they stop this crap. I don't copy or cheat, I just want to use the highest capacity cards as they come to market.

Long and short of it, I tried CoPilot8 on my Tilt2, easy setup, didn't read instructions, and took it on a trip out of state (Texas). It easily exceeded my expectations! It's very good looking, very finger friendly, and fairly intuitive. It came with a bunch of different voices, but it is NOT TTS yet, due out in Q4, but it worked very well.

Screen updates were the most fliud I've ever seem, looked like 3-4 updates per second. I used POI lookups and weather, it goes on-line and gets what it needs much like GoogleMaps. I used the PC app to shop their on-line app store for add-ons to the base $35 product, right now they only have Live Traffic ($19) that adds live traffic status and warnings to the mapping.

It looks like Europe gets even more features in the product than North America, like 3D buildings, and some special traffic aids. Strange as this is an American company but US features lag behind...

All in all, this prog is a steal at $35 and works very well on this phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] orb3000:
Not yet for WM but soon!

Google Maps Navigation!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGXK4jKN_jY
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] anit77:
Sure would be nice if they came out with a wm version...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] .Dylan:
I'm sure it'll be that way on all platforms eventually.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] dik23:
I'd always wondered why Google hadn't already done this. The SatNav companies must be seriously worried now. None of them have that kind of backing, whether cash or skills

Google will nail this
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] RogerStenning:
It's an interesting, and very welcome, development, to be sure, but there is one glaring problem that no-one has yet found a solution to - over the air mapping and turn-by-turn direction guidance is only as good as the data connection to the mapping. When you find yourself out of data connectivity, either by lack of available bandwidth, or by being out of range of a data-enabled network, how do you get your navigation running?

The solution is easy enough: use off-line mapping. That's one of the major things that TT et all will be trumpeting now.

In addition, whilst google layers are now in their infancy, there's no knowing when user-definable layers, or POIs, will be made available, and whether you'll be able to utilise them from your handset or not - which makes such things as speed camera databases another area where off-line satnav systems currently come into their own.

The battle lines have, as you can clearly see, been drawn.

Time will show who wins, and who loses.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] doctajay:
I've used TomTom for the most part but the fact that their support isn't truly official for windows mobile made me leave. I've been using Copilot 8 on my Tilt 2 for awhile now and it is great! The UI is hands down the nicest I have seen, and eventually there will be TTS. I couldn't be happier, especially at the $35 price.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Telek:
I am certain that the brains at google will have the offline nav problem covered NO PROBLEM.

I'm pretty sure they're going to toast TT/Garmin on this one now :O

But really it's TT/Garmin's fault for not getting on the ball with this sooner.

So Google's really screaming lately - Google Voice, Google Nav, and Google Wave all rolling out at pretty much the same time. WOW.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] dothem:
iguidance is a nice gps app too
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] dothem:
i have an old v4, but it still works well on tp2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] dothem:
even though garmin is the best standalone gps company
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] godfa7h3r:
Tried Garmin on my Tilt 2 and it ran horribly. I would necessarily call it GPS lag, as it accuractely and quickly could track my speed. But it was as if the screen would only update once every three seconds, similar to trying to run a demanding PC game on old hardware.

My vote goes to iGo. Most attractive interface, smooth and quick, and can easily let you choose what content you want on the card to save space.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] carhigh:
I used gamin today for the first time on my att tilt2 and it ran just as dreamy as it did on my kaiser. But i didnt cound the fractions of a second for each sceen update, i was to busy driving
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] pinny:
Why didn't they add iGO to the poll? I think it's even better then all of them. no?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Masterface7:
Hi, I believe google decided to only now come out with a nav app becuase they only very recently started using 100% their own maps, until now they used other companies maps. Yes most of that "gps lag" is due to crappy video performance of our devices. I remember seeing a video about it a while ago. I used to run Garmin xt I got nothing right now though(since i just got a new tp2). I just finished reading this entire thread and i would say igo looks to be the best based on the passion of the people who use it with garmin a close 2nd. It is funny tomtom has the most votes and almost 0 representation in the comments in this thread compared to the other two. Even though Garmin is my favorite company of the 2 it appears that most people go with tomtom based on name alone and don't really try anything else but the people who do venture out seem to end up with igo or garmin and then become more vocal about it. So yea judging by comments alone i would say

1.Igo - 1.5 Garmin XT

3.TomTom

It is too bad though the things that should be really compared are too difficult to do so because it requires significant use with each program, like quaility of poi, how well it maps out poi's on your route(i dont really care if something is 5 miles behind me). How good is the category and search features. I know garmin has a google search feature for poi's do any of the others? I know Garmin has a sweet dash like speed display that can track top speed average speed average speed when not stopped trip distance, total distace. It is things like these that would make me choose one software over another. I know from personal experience that the garmin does have some big flaws like i dont think you can drag the map while in 3d mode. You tap the map it brings up a 2d map then you can drag it. Kind of a pain
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] fyn3zt:
the software installed fine im having toruble receiving signall... any suggestions?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] yiorgos2:
I have been using Garmin Xt for a while now. The only problem i have is that the ETA time is so wrong. Compared it with the same version software on Touch pro and the touch pro seems to be more accurate. The TP2 for a 4 hr trip gives me an hour extra ETA time and only about 20 minutes before I arrive to destination shows right time. Anybody else had this problem? Any solutions on this?

Thanks in advance
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Tref:
Real time, on the go? So does this mean CoPilot requires a data connection to the internet in order to "get what it needs" as it routes you? If so, isn't that a problem for those without a data plan, lack of 3G connectivity, or any connectivity at all at any given point in time?

There is not a carrier in the world afaik that has connectivity everywhere, all the time. They might want you to think they do, but they don't. And so, neither do we. Of course the same can be said for dedicated GPS units, but they do a lot better at staying connected to at least the minimum number of satellites required to route you, at all times.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] 3waygeek:
No -- all the maps are included. The data connection is used to get traffic or local search info. If you choose not to use those features, you don't have to have an active data connection.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Tref:
Thanks, that's good to know. I just may give CoPilot a try.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] sancmat:
I would recommend on course navigator 8.3 TTS, 3d buildings, 8gb card is better the others.