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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] matmaneyre:
Yeah, I wouldn't rely too much on build numbers. From my experience, higher doesn't always mean better.

As to the NRGZ vs At0mAng topic, I am currently using EnergyROM (which is very nice and stable) but I am very much looking forward to flashing this one. Unfortunately, I am somewhat on-call as my fiancée has been rushed to hospital with suspected appendicitis, so at the moment I cannot afford to have my TP2 in RUU even for a few minutes. But as soon as I'm told everything is ok I'll be plugging in my USB cable!! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] HeavyComponent:
So I guess to find to find out the difference I will have no choice, but to flash both ROMs. :mad:

I will do this as soon as I get a backup software so I can just load everything up and be ready to go.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] matmaneyre:
I asked the question a few pages back...they are very different from what I can see. At0m's roms are clean and close to stock with lots of tweaks. NRGZ are heavily customised for effect and (hopefully) reduction in user customisation after flashing.

I have to say...I have hardly had to install anything on top of NRGZ rom. In fact, apart from a couple of personalisations such as fonts and TF3D icons etc, all I have needed to install are TT7 and Skyfire. A very complete rom indeed.

Having said that, I WILL be flasing At0m's rom as soon as I can! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tkalli:
I have flashed the Energy Warhawk ROM.

Seems very fast. Only used it for a couple of hours.

But so far, so good. Everything I normally use, works fine.

Has a lot of problems preloaded that I will never use.

When Final 1 is released, I will certainly flash it.

I like the fact that there are not a lot of programs preloaded

that I can install.

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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] At0mAng:
You dont want to use backup software. Especially when you are going from two different build numbers. Thats where 95% of problems come from. For contacts just sync with outlook. Give MS MyPhone a shot at backing up but I will advise to be very carefull of what you choose as your backup software. If you run into problems after a restore it will most certainly be from restoring.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] At0mAng:
We have different thoughts on how we build our ROMs. With UC it is very easy to get your ROM with just what you want on it. Just place your cabs in folder, setup your sdconfig file and the next time you flash with a UC ROM everything you want is already loaded.

If programs are cooked in when it comes time to update the older version is doing nothing but wasting storage space but I guess that doesn't matter too much since we are all ROM flashing junkies :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] HeavyComponent:
Yeah I was thinking that to! LOL

I will just flash both and spend a day with each then make my decision what to keep.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] HeavyComponent:
From your post I guess I will flash Energy Warhawk first. Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] matmaneyre:
Hey, credit to you both, I couldn't do the job you guys are doing. I am a junkie & I'm proud and I'll try anything once! :D Your rom looks very nice (in words at least! lol) and I will be flashing at the earliest opportunity, even if it is just to test if it suits me or not.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] At0mAng:
Exchange server

This may sound stupid but I have seen it work before. Change the domain for your exchange server to all upper case and see if that works...

I have another fix to try but it needs to be cooked in :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] At0mAng:
More Eye Candy

Preview of my folder icons...

What they look like, on start menu and my TF3D2.6 slider icons, Start menu is too messy to show it in public :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jafarkhan:
Any words on the ETA of your Pre-install Pack?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] At0mAng:
When ROM is final. I have not placed UC and other automated methods in yet.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jafarkhan:
Since no one else has noticed this, to those who run into errors while installing NETCF 3.5:

There is no need to install it since it is built into WM 6.5
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] HeavyComponent:
Yeah I didn't know about that. Thanks anyway.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jafarkhan:
Anytime bro
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jafarkhan:
@Atom:

Hey I was checkong HTCPedia and I an into a post by you where you showed off your enhanced D3D Drivers. Is this cooked into your ROMS as well or should we install that too?

EDIT: Please ignore my post. I found it in the list of your tweaks on the first page.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] truffle1234:
ROM is great but not enough Program memory... please do something about it as i cant load my mapking after loading core player, Opera9.5.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] qazzi76:
Hi AtomaAng,

Is there a link to download your RHODIUM Rom Kitchen?

I remember Da_G released his.

I am very interested in the 6.5 23022 that includes new features as well as the 2.6 Leo Manilla that Topaz, and Blackstone users are currently working with.

If you have no plans to release these versions I wondered whether you will allow others to.

Regards,

Qaz
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] maseo:
Haven't seen an update in the changlog for the RC1 release.

Is there anything special that has been fixed? :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Aurel143:
Just wanna say that

at first sight

it's smooth, bugless and not including useless or unworking things. It's a good rom waiting for a more fonctionnal version of TF3D2.5/6. I like it!​
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] VizagDude:
I'm having an issue with the Time Zone thing that keeps popping up every once in a while for no reason. Is anyone else having this issue?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wez89:
A few people were having this issue, not sure but i think that was fixed in the latest release but dont hold me on that
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mwelch16:
I'm having it also. Downloading the new version now...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tmzzlo:
heh found everything i needed.Just wanted to prepare everything for everyday use as fast as it possible.But now everything is ok really fast batery saving rom.Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] someeh:
When did the new version come out? I had flashed this rom 2 days ago. I'm also having that time zone menu pop up all the time. It's annoying.

Nevermind! look and you shall find hehehe... I'm going to flash once the download is complete.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] VizagDude:
Well, I am on RC1 ROM since y'day night, and I'm still having this problem. Except for this issue, the ROM is FANTASTIC. Good on Battery and Memory. Definitly recommend this one for ppl who are looking at stability and smoothness. Great for daily use.

Though I love the Manila 2.5 Energy ROM, its still in its infancy and there are lot of issues in landscape mode. I guess its more to do with the Manila than the ROM. So, according me not suitable for daily use.

At0m, please fix this annoying Time Zone pop up issue... :) Just kiddin pal, I am sure you are already looking into it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mwelch16:
Yes, I'm still getting the timezone thing also in RC1.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] someeh:
Just a note to everyone for the keyboard fix, you need to restart even though it doesn't inform you too.

Okay, I just flashed and it works smooth and stable. No annoying time zone pop ups. Is the MS live client not installed on this version? I get an error when trying to set up the email account.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Aurel143:
Is it possible to manually add applications in the internet tab ? I mean under the browser button just like YouTube is by default.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] thecompany:
Am i gonna loose my radio (3.46 something) if i install this rom? If yes, where can i download the radio?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] driftar:
Well, i've git this rom about 24 hours on my TP2. It runs smooth, fast, stable and all the needed functions work fine.

The only issue i have is this thing with the high amount of used memory without any open application...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] VizagDude:
I dont think Radio is included in this ROM. So you are good to go... Also, you can always flash the radio you want at anytime. I think there is a theread that says something like Radio ROMs or you can find it in the Wiki.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] driftar:
I flashed this rom and i didn't loose the Radio. I can make phone calls, AGPS is also working properly...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] woeds:
The RC1 is running without a hitch so far :) The only bug I've encountered is that sometimes new text and email notifications aren't displayed on the Wm6.5 lockscreen and the titlebar. Don't know if this is a ROM problem or a problem with Wm6.5
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] totriz:
installed rc1 last night, today i will test it outside and see if it bugs out on me.

the other 2 betas worked fine, but i didn't use the phone much apart for customization.

love it so far, it would be nice to see the list of tweaks you put in the rom. i customized the start menu for 4 columns and installed de 1% battery icon, and really like the 'bare' rom with the posibility to customize it myself later.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jafarkhan:
Here is a question:

I am currently using BETA II and I have applied all the necessary CAB fixes to it and it's running great!! I see no bugs but of course I see 68% mem usage when the phone is idle. I checked the memory tools in settings and it indicated that my Total Program memory is 187 and about 120 MB in use. Is the reading incorrect or TP2 really has 187 MB of RAM?

Anyways my main question is that is there a good reason for me to upgrade my ROM to RC1 or even Final Version?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] oajungen:
Working with the RC1 for some hours now and it is working very good! Exchange synchronisation is working without any problem and I do not have the problem with timezone screen.

I noticed one small problem with Opera. If I use Opera landschape without the hardware keyboard and I open the bookmarks they are displayed in portrait mode. Beside this I noticed the Opera setting screen is displayed very small, but it is workable.

So far a great ROM and I am looking forward to the public release!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] At0mAng:
Memory useage is a bit better with RC1 and will be even better with Final. I may change the SYS build since I am not happy with the memory useage. The memory reading might be off since the Touch Pro2 came with a problem reporting the right amount of memory and now I am wondering if that is why the program memory seems to be higher than normal.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jafarkhan:
That's exactly the thing that I am thinking since the mem usage amount is being shown in percentage.

I can not remember but is there any one who hasn't changed his ROM yet so that we can know how much is the mem usage in megabytes with stock ROM running?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cverstij:
At0mAng -

Any idea on how to get a custom .gif to replace the Tmobile start up screens?

Thanks in advance!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] At0mAng:
Right after the TP2 was released they issued a new ROM to address the problem with memory not being reported correctly. I am wondering if this bug is in their 6.5 ROMs (the base of this ROM is from HTC) too. My ROMs have never used this much memory space before but they were based on 6.1 and for the Touch Pro so I was thinking it was just 6.5 but after digging around some more it looks like it can be a bit due to 6.5 and the amount of memory not bein reported correctly.

In this ROM I have disabled Internetpush, disabled Opera from staying in memory and also Internet explorer from staying in memory or loading silently at launch. I also did a few other things that should have lowered the program memory but it is still a little higher than I like.

Edit...that is not it :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] woeds:
I just checked and RC1 is reporting 288mb which is correct. The buggy ROMS were reporting 256mb.

edit: whoops, should refresh before I post
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MeatyCoins:
love the rom, smooth.

but im now unable to send MMS with Tmobile with this rom flashed, i see the settings are there but i get a error "not able to send messages,will return to draft box"

any idea why ?

thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] joechan:
if it is possiable to have WM6.5+Manila 2.6??

Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wez89:
hes working on it, let there be a stablized version first
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tkalli:
Replace welcomehead.192.png in the Windows directory.

\Windows\welcomehead.192.png

Use Total Commander.

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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] oajungen:
Bugs?

Just noticed I have a battery indicator in the phone screen behind the phone carier line. I am not sure, but I think this is not intended?

I also noticed the bookmarks in Opera are portrait even if I am using Opera landscape (without the hardware keyboard).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cverstij:
This replaces the Windows Mobile splash screen (.png file).

I need to replace the "Stick Together" TMobile boot screens (.gif file).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] At0mAng:
The fist screen when it comes on? If so here is the attached HTC Touch Pro2 default spalsh screen. If you want something different post the graphic files.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] VizagDude:
I found out the reason for the Time Zone pop-up.

Its poppingup every time the phone swtiches from EDGE to 3G and back. Is there a way to kill this based on this finding???
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cverstij:
Yes, the first screen. It is a TMobile branded logo/animation. Does the one you posted just have an HTC related look to it and it's not carrier-specific?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] At0mAng:
Check my first reply to you, it is attached to that post that you can download and flash.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cverstij:
I know how to download it, but (and I will not do it if it's too complex) how do you flash it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] At0mAng:
Extract the files from the zip, make sure they are in the same folder, run the exe file, follwo on screen instructions and wait for reboot. Then you should have new screen.

Let us know how it works.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] woeds:
At0m, the first post says that the ROM is UC compatible, but my SDconfig isn't running after a hard-reset.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cverstij:
I downloaded to my PC, extracted the files, drug the two files over to my phone (using ActiveSync) to a New Folder, ran the .exe file and got the following message:

"CustomRUU" is not a valid Pocket PC Application
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] At0mAng:
I am sorry...I did not place it in yet. I wanted to eliminate anything that can be causing problems. Will be in the final.

My bad, I just copied and pasted most of the infro from my Touch Pro ROM thread to this thread.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tkalli:
You run it from the PC, NOT the phone.

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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] At0mAng:
Do it from PC white phone is connected via activesync...just like how you flash ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cverstij:
I got a Error Recovery message from the utility on the PC. I went through the "disconnect USB, remove/replace battery/reconnect USB", but I didn't reconnect cause I am a little leary now.

My phone turned back on fine and everything looks good.

Should I try this again?:confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Cal-El:
I just flashed and it works fine, you need to put your phone into the bootloader and let the driver install then try again! When it was flashing it went into the bootloader and tried to update the driver, that is why you got the error! Just let the driver install then it will work! And thanks for this AtOm! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] At0mAng:
No problem...wish I had more time so I can release all of my goodies. Suppose to be crappy weekend weather so I may have lots of time this weekend :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cverstij:
How do I put my phone into the bootloader (forgive me, I am still learning the jargon)? :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wez89:
Then i hope its thunderin and lighting ;)

Take a break if youu need, i would rather have a perfected rom than a rom rushed :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wez89:
Volume down and soft reset button
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cverstij:
Got it! It's now in bootloader mode. I am assuming I NOW plug in the USB cable?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Cal-El:
Same here, isnt it always raining in Gotham? looks like it in all the DarkKnight movies! JAJAJA (as + Que PPC would say!) ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] VizagDude:
Hey At0mang, Thx for the reply.. do you think this is the Edit I sould go with. But I do not see this option in the RegEdit.

But I see another option which says something like Connection Auto Detect =1. I changed that to 0. I'll let you know if that worked.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tkalli:
Crappy weekend for you, Good News for us...

:)

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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cverstij:
I am trying to update my USB driver, but it's not working. It is stating that the new drivers are not digitally signed.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] teemo:
Just wondering about what kind of problems I can run into by this. I may just be lucky, but...

Have always used PimBackup 2.8 for contacts, messages and call log. Never noticed any problems.

Used it from Kaiser to stock Rhodium.

Used it from stock Rhodium to 6.5 Beta1.

No issues.

?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tkalli:
Your right, Sorry!

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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] teemo:
Memory issue

Been playing a bit with Beta-1 and for now it seem to stay below 55% with apps unloaded.

Could it be a leak in Manilla? I have it disabled and use only the SPB shell.

Would like to do some more testing, but how can I ignore that RC1 is out :D Will keep an eye on mem usage on RC1 and report if my findings are different than others.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] elpmet27:
I also had this problem until I unchecked the "auto change time zone" setting in phone options...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] VizagDude:
Where did you find the Phone option settings.. can you give me the path? Thanks for your help.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] At0mAng:
It is not a memory leak, I do not think. I am not sure if prorams are being handled different with 6.5 compared to 6.1 or what. I notice today that after I ran google maps that the memory in use was high. So I rebooted load google maps, checked the memory, closed google maps and checked memory again and memory use was the same. I started google maps again and it started right up like it was still in memory. This never happened on my Touch Pro ROM which was 6.1. So I added the proper registry settings to make sure google maps was terminated when closed and repeated above steps and all was good.

Also, I am not sure if it is in RC1 but I fixed IE also so it does not stay in memory as Opera does when cooked in. That regained some more memory. The whole thing with google maps has me wondering if apps are being hanlded different. I did not notice this with Bing though. My settings are correct to end program when pressing X.

So for those that are claiming to have high memory use do some testing, before you run any apps look at the memory use and then look at it after you close program. If it remains the same then it is still in memory. If it goes back to the lower level then it is ok.

If for some reason some apps are being handled different we can get a list going to make the proper registry settings.

One more thing, the Win 6.5 start menu takes a good amount of memory too.

Another thing. My free program space in my 6.1 ROM for Toch Pro had like 201 MB of space and the TP2 for some reason has like 186 or what ever it is. I do the same things to my payload/xip but yet there is a big difference and this is what is leading me to believe that the new Visual Kitchen is messing with my payload/xip before each ROM creation. I have to look into it to try to fix it.

If you have a Touch Pro and are willing to try something, try this. Load any ROM OEM or most cooked, browse the windows folder with File Explorer. Notice the time it takes to load the windows folder. After that Flash my Touch Pro ROM, browse the windows folder and see how much quicker it loads the windows folder. It goes from 5-7 seconds to about 2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tkalli:
Have the August 21 Energy ROM installed.

Took about 8 seconds to load the Windows Directory

in Total Commander.

Will flash your ROM and try it, but may be a while as

I have some things to do.

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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] At0mAng:
I am reffering to the touch pro (raphael) fusion rom and not the touch pro2 (rhodium rom) both have same tweaks applied to payload/xip, cooked with different kitchens and different results.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] At0mAng:
Maybe you are lucky or doing something others are not but there have been lots of problems by restoring from backup software. A lot of issues have been created from restoring, not just with my ROMs but with others. There have been a few posts in this thread about problems caused from restoring.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] At0mAng:
Thanks buddy! :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tkalli:
OK, Not reading correctly...:(

Going to flash it anyways.

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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] teemo:
Browsing "Windows"

Just a note on browsing the windows folder.

On standard ROM there is a huge loading difference between "show all files" and "dont show".

This ROM has virtually no difference, been wanting that for a long time now. Thanks Atom.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] At0mAng:
Are you thinking I am not reading it correctly? I knew you were playing and I was playing back...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] At0mAng:
It's still not as quick as my 6.1 ROM and I am trying to find out why.

No problem!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tkalli:
Just wanted to try your 6.5 ROM.

:)

Tried the Energy 6.5 ROM.

Right now they are the only two.

With my Blackstone, I kept going back to 6.1.

I try almost all of the Blackstone ROM's and beta tested a few.

Just like seeing the different approaches of cooking a ROM.

Have two phones, so one is just to play with.

I find WM phones much easier to mod than p2k or p5k phones (Motorola).

RegEdits are simpler than seem edits.

No hex necessary.

:rolleyes:

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