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[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] imfloflo:
@maxisma @bluedragon1982 : This is an ENGLISH forum please respect the rules and don"t speak German/Dutch Here.

add a traduction to your post or i will delete them please.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maxisma:
Unslaved ist gut ;-)

Unslaved's ROM is good.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bluedragon1982:
sorry, I thought german would also allow
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tekkitan:
This should be locked anyways for being in the wrong forum.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LucidREM:
Warranty

Q: What does root have to do with the warranty?

A: Absolutely nothing.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mikey:
Start asking your questions in the right sub-forum (Q&A) (Theme) or even in (General), or i will be forced to ban you for 3 days or till you learn.

Thanks :)

Thread Trashed!!
[Touch HD General] paplu2729:
I can receive an email with blackberry connect but unable to send. Urgent help needed. Pl help
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] pomz:
How can I launch "Stock" after installed SPB Mobile Shell?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Lucas0511:
Start/Settings/Today/Items activate TouchFlo 3D

You can also run both concurrently http://bit.ly/4jmXnp
[General Topics] Raptor.X:
Hi everyone,

First I would like to apologize if I have posted this topic in the wrong section, but I'm not familiar with forums and stuff like that. If so, I beg of you to just move my topic, don't lock it.

Here's my problem now: I have a Qtek 9100 on which I tried about one year ago to install a non-official WM6 ROM. I first installed a WM5 ROM called "Wizard Love" and then installed the WM6 ROM. Since I didn't like the WM6 ROM on my Qtek, I downgraded it back to the WM5 Wizard Love ROM. But I still wanted to install the official WM5 ROM again.

I tried about ten different ROMs, but each says "ERROR [300] UNCOMPATIBLE DEVICE" and won't flash my device. A member of another forum taught me to install a Custom 1.05 ROM via MUN RUU, but he did not specify that this ROM was for G3 (mine was unfortunately a (perfectly CID Unlocked) G4).

So, after flashing the 1.05 ROM, the Qtek freezed on the welcome screen (with a cup of beer). I tried to flash the original ROM then, using the bootloader mode, but I had the same errors as before. Only the 1.05 Custom ROM could be flashed correctly.

Then, I pulled out the battery and put it in again. And now... my device won't turn on at all! I've been looking for a solution all day long on Google and this forum, and I heard about the JTag. But I couldn't find a tutorial that explains it correctly.

Can anyone help me find one or suggest another solution?

Thanks a lot for your precious help! I need my Qtek back alive!
[General Topics] orb3000:
Have a deep read here:

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Wizard

You´ll find your way!

Good luck,
[General Topics] Raptor.X:
Thanks, but I've already specified that I cannot access the bootloader, the phone won't turn on at all, it's completely dead. Neither the screen nor the LEDs turn on. The procedures described in your link are only available for phones that do boot at least in bootloader mode.
[General Topics] the-equinoxe:
the only way is by using JTAG, but you have found one of the threads out there already (as I have seen your post there).

no other way possible.
[General Topics] Raptor.X:
Yes I know... the only problem is, the link points to a russian tutorial.

Do YOU speak russian?
[General Topics] the-equinoxe:
Enough to understand the manual with help from my friend google translate (if I fail to understand something).

But Russian isn't the biggest hurdle, if you don't know how to read the circuit diagram from the wiggler (which is REALLY simple), nor can you build such a simple constriction, how on earth are you going to connect the JTAG ??

(attached a closeup from a 5 x 3.5 mm piece of PCB where JTAG lines are hand soldered to make my case).

Without the proper tools (I personally prefer to use a rework station and a microscope) and the proper experience you won't come far.

This is why HTC service team will replace the mainboard, they aren't even trained to preform a JTAG. (that is only done by the engineers and in factory), I haven't seen a single HTC service manual which discussed JTAG (and I have seen alot of them).
[General Topics] Raptor.X:
I guess you're right about the difficulty of this operation.

I've already tried to Google Translate the "manual" (which was a forum discussion. Could you give me the link of yours, because from what I've translated, I think I turned out to be on a bad page).

About the circuit, I understood about everything, except the rectangle on the center and what's inside, and the branch in the upper right corner...

Two last questions: Should I connect the Qtek motherboard to the circuit with melted copper strings (like you did)? and then connect the parallel port to the PC and start using H-Jtag?

Thanks for you reply.
[General Topics] the-equinoxe:
rectangle in the middle is a simple 244 buffer, it's an integrated circuit.

Branch Right top is supply.

This probably is a wiggler JTAG.

Regarding the manual, I grabbed it from the same site (am on a different computer now, without access to the files) .

You should be able to Solder the wires to the mainboard (it's not melted copper).

The picture posted above was soldered by hand with a needle soldering-Iron (but I prefer a rework station).

You need some skill to solder, and the right equipment, using the wrong Iron would ruin the board, as you can see in the Pic, all parts are really tiny (the wires eg. are 0.20 mm in diameter!!)

EqX
[Hero, G2 Touch General] bubano:
Sending vcards works pefectly, but it can't receive any through sms. So an update?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Ta33ik:
As a former 3y user of UIQ3 phones ( SE M600 & P1 ) I'm missing some very comfortable functions as :

1. Adding multiple SMS recipients at a time. I usually send messages to 20 or more recipients and selecting them 1 by 1 takes a looooot of time.

2. Displaying contacts in different pattern - for example company first, name second etc.

Thanks for helping.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ohyeahar:
1. In the "To" field of the messaging app, you can simply start typing the contact's name and it will predict the number. It's intuitive, easy and fast. So this shouldn't be a problem.

2. In the default Windows Mobile contacts app, you can view by company or by name. So, also no problems here.

By the way, this is not specific to the TP2. This applies to all Windows Mobile devices. You may want to do some more research into this platform if you are interested in buying it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Gonzo_62:
by the way: is it possible to create SMS-Groups like in 3rd Party tools ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sangreal:
I would like to kick this project back off following the withdrawal of tuxhero.

After putting the feelers out and speaking with the developer responsible for the vogue android Kernel build & port I would like to Try and bring those guys onboard and am looking at a way to source them with a device. Further conversations need to take place and definitive project scope and tasks defined with much more transparent approach to the code development.

I have registered androidkernel.com and am asking for feedback from you all on how you think you would like things to pan out. My role is with Project Management and have a wealth of experience in that area, so I would be looking to appoint a team of people to work on the project and either set bounties for milestones or listen to other options and feedback on reaching our project goals.

Hopefully something of value can be achieved and I would be grateful to hear from the previous developers for any assistance available. We can create a website or use github or google code, opinions wanted and lets not rule anything out.

Sangreal
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] brumbrum:
I would be glad to help out with this project. But since I dont have much time (I work 8-10hours/day as a developer) I would be glad if this would be an open development for all to contribute to.

Also it would be nice if the technical documents that Tuxhero has was posted to the developers so that they could be able to make progress faster.

Lets hope we can get android for our device.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sangreal:
I'm in agreement totally - open source, more transparency would be the aim.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gerdgerdgerd:
very nice ...

but we should ask tuxhero, to share his researched information and diffs.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] simranjits:
tuxhero actually didn't get anything done at all. He was making fake posts but in reality he wasn't doing anything.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sangreal:
Lets try not to get into any of that, but I agree there was very little transparency or visibility of code development.

I have asked Tuxhero if he could handover documentation and anything else to kickstart things so whether that is provided we shall see.

Sangreal
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] pLUSpISTOL:
You should get in contact with TuxHero at least to ask about his technical documentation on the Blackstone and also if he is able to share any code. There is no harm in two teams working on this brilliant project!

So are the Vogue team really willing to try and crack the Blackstone? Do they need an actual handset?

Edit: If you actually managed to WORK WITH Tux that would be awesome :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] 1337_V1k1n6:
Transparacy is the clue.. there are a lot of smart heads here that may decide to contribute if the project is open for all..

good luck guys..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
Good luck with the management Sangreal, its looking good!

Hope you can gather a good team.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sudo_x60s:
Allthough I do not use the Touch HD for the moment, I wish You all the best. I'm sure You will make it!

If TuxHero does not provide You with the documents he got, I say his intension was only to get 5 minutes of fame.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ASK768:
im happy this project has started, but what plan do you have in mind to get the vogue developers a blackstone? What i mean to say is that even though the blackstone is starting to get a tad dated, its still a very expensive device.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] patp:
maybe you could get the donation pot from the other thread. that just about added up to the cost of a blackst... oh.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] arnoldg:
This sounds great.

let us keep this thread clean of the thing other people have done in the past.

and support the topic starter with every bit of information we could give.

i hope he could build a android kernel for the blackstone.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sudo_x60s:
Just a suggestion..

Perhaps the following thing to do would be to list things what needs to be done, what is high priority and is related to what. Also if the task/s could be categorized by difficulty (read: time expected to complete).

Then after we have a list, we can start addressing task/s to people or smaller teams.

I also suggest that there would be some kind of progress bar per task (how much is completed of the task and what is the estimated time for the task to be 100% complete, what is working and what is not). Then there would be no need for people to ask questions like "when is this ready?".

The last thing I would suggest is that we make a list of people that are willing to contribute and with what (read: I would like to contribute and I have skills in ______________)

I would like to contribute with code but I have no experience of hardware coding so I guess it is better I stand aside. However, if You need a forum setup (live chat etc etc), just let me know. I do not want to step on any toes but if you need someone to help with trying to manage the project, I'm absolutely willing to give a hand.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] DanMccoy1:
My developing skills are close to none existent,

however any designs (web design, graphic designs and stuff like that) i can do well (or atleast other people think so)

I can also do any testing, if any of this may be useful, let me know.

- Dan
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sangreal:
Thanks for all the suggestions so far and I will get in touch with those who have offered skills in other areas to assist where possible, I appreciate a lot of people are waiting for some value in this port and at least a fully implemented kernel.

It will take a couple of days for me to touch base with some of the developers on here and I will need to discuss things in more detail with them whilst at the same time getting the base requirements fulfilled on which to start the project off properly, after which there will be a kick off in some form.

My intention regarding getting a device for them if needed was to contribute myself as well as set up donations however bearing in mind the debacle of people donating before and nothing really progressing I am somewhat conscious of doing this properly and not in the business of obtaining something for nothing so definitely need some good suggestions on that aspect.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kuyichi:
make a bounty :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Kael:
no donation, get that f**king thing out of your mind... as soon as the project is done, then open it. Not that I don't value WIP, but otherwise it will only lead to the same disasters we had in the last two attempts... (and I'm not talking about the other devices or other development attempts)

"oh yeah, why is the thing not out yet"

or

"we gave you money, where's the progress"

will be questions we always will see, even if that person didn't donate.

Let money out of the game, it spoils everything.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mcdull:
I personally would still love to wait for tuxhero. Not because I have donated, but simiply believe that good people is all around. BTW, it is always good to have more and more developer to join. Thanks everyone.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] audscott:
Apparently cash is going to be the pilot light and life cycle motivator of such a massive project. Qualified developers a project manager and loads of volunteers. The consensus is $50 (US) per person. That seems far too inexpensive if such a project is to reach a satisfactory conclusion. I agree, giving up our hard earned cash to persons unknown, for unknown effort is not a productive way to go.

What is needed is an escrow: Donations held until specific milestones area reach, as predetermined. Personally, I don't want to give, for example, $250 and some one else $50, with the expectation we each receive the same result. Then again, if specific donations are mandated then this becomes a private project. Oh boy! Back to square one.

No, here's the deal: Each person donate what they want with the donation kept secrete. Either a service or a reputable member hold the donations, perhaps in a paypal account until a bounty release is authorized.

I'm a little less than optimistic, but I am quite agreeable (and already have) to donating to this worthy effort.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dioooi:
If possible we should invite the famous Rom cooked to join this Android project as well.

Like Leo, Miri, Duttythroy, EpiphanyNL, tomal, NRGZ28,......

All are very welcome to develope this great UI.

Thanks.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dioooi:
Hi all, we should invite the famous rom cooked to join this Android project too.

Like Leo, miri, duttythroy, EpiphanyNL, NRGZ28, tomal,....etc

Hope them will develope the new Android UI to blackstone.

Thanks,
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sudo_x60s:
Android is not antoher UI, it is a OS and somewhat more complicated to accomplish. Also the fact that developers (that hopefully will join) does not have documentation about the hardware makes the project very hard to complete.

Imagine that you get an container with screws and peaces and you have to build a car from these without any documentation. Although the person is a very good mechanic this task would be hard to complete.

This project can be compared to the above example, developers have to reverse engineer most of the time.

If this project can be completed (read: if enough skilled developers will join), there should at least be a site (ie androidkernel.com) that lists the names of the developers so that they can get credit and fame for their work (even put it in their CV..).

Also, if you get androidkernel.com running with a forum, wiki etc I'm sure that it would not be that hard to sell some banner space and make some cash this way (or why not contact a smaller retailer that would like to sell Touch HD with running Android. He pays for the banner and everyone is happy).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] pzucchel:
Tuxhero doesn't have exclusivity on documentation, and personally i doubt he has it. the main problem is that many of these documents are confidential and therefore subject to Non Disclusre Agreements: therefore they cannot be put in the public domain legally. XDA is no legal entity and furthermore will not pay large sums to obtain them...EVEN if the HW manufacturers would be willing of doing it, something which i doubt seriously due to the upcoming release of other android phones and the commercial impact of it. THIS is the problem....and it is not a minor problem.

:(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Geeba:
Fair play for having a bash! - I cant bring much to the table in the way of developing skills I'm afraid... :o

But pleased to see an open attempt this time round.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
i am not dead at.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sudo_x60s:
TuxHero,

Could you please kindly remove the Donation button or disable it in this thread, at least until Sangreal has decided how to proceed.

Thank you in advance!

Edit: modified screenshot
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Geeba:
You could bring your already gained Android knowledge and join the new team?

Just a thought - teamwork always gets things done. :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Sorry if patp from xda developers or cr2, tmzt or dcoder from #htc-linux started this then i would very happy to join but not this one. For me getting work done is important than the way i do it. My plans are long term not short term friend. You will see the difference very shortly.

From 2 months i have been working on this day and night Just to understand this platform. No way i am turning back after all this. It's just a small tea break my friends second part of this will be very much interesting keep watching.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] aavan:
Could you at least help the team by giving the tech docs you got ?

Even if you don't provide source code you managed to develop, it could help the project, and it won't really interfere with your project.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] crypta:
not again. PLEASE!

just leave tux whatever he wants to do.

we do have a "project manager" startet this development. I am pretty sure, he jumped in, cuz he knows what he is doing. I believe this, because I am a very naive person, and believe what he wrote.

but serious... no one will get anywhere, if he looks left and right all the time... you have to look forward, to go forward.

if you want to... make it a race, BUT LOOK FORWARD.

I am no OSdeveloper, so I am outa the game, but if some skilled people volunter, this is the way it goes.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] patp:
Here is my view. (Note I am not a developer. I had a go but could not spare the time to develop the skills).

I think many of you have been misled into thinking it is sensible to have a Blackstone-only project. It is not. What is needed is a project which works on a kernel port for the whole family of HTC devices which use the MSM7200A architecture - the Diamond, Raphael, Blackstone + others.

This project already exists and is the main thrust of the #htc-linux channel developers. If and when they solve problems like ADSP / RPC for one device (probably raphael), solutions will come fast for the other devices.

If anyone here plans to put any time into this, they should engage with that group and try to understand what has been achieved so far.

And by the way, NONE of the progress made so far for any device has been motivated by "donations."

Finally, do not look to a port to give you a fully working Android. If it happens, it will always be a work in progress, probably buggy and running on non-optimised drivers.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
He is right friends. This Task don't need managers it need developers.

http://www.htc-android.com/ they already have dedicated forums for android porting why do you need another?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sudo_x60s:
You are absolutely right! I do believe though that this can go all the way (ie get Android running, place phone calls etc) but it will never be an OEM.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
A friendly advice don't take me wrong.

When i started this project i thought to post it in this forum so that i could get some development related help from others. I never thought about donations or fame but unexpectedly this project got huge response and donations. By seeing the donations and how famous this project become every one was shocked. Every one want fame so some people stated to trouble me to leave this project So they can take over my place. In less than 24 hours after i said good bye sangreal started another thread this clearly show his intentions. This project badly need code not managers friends. Vogue Developers and Dia/Rap/Black developers are already working together at #htc-linx irc channel have a look at there irc log http://irclog.netripper.com/?chan=htc-linux i don't know how sangreal will get vogue developers to work on this project when they are already working on the same project.

Android on Blackstone is not very far friends many developers are working on it like patp said RAP/DIA code will work on Blackstone so RAP/Dia Developers are = Blackstone Developers. Just wait for a month or two till then please don't encourage people like sangreal.

This is just a friendly advice not a fight or fame war friends. Just expressed my feeling that's it.

Leo Based ROM is hot topic right now try them Miri and Dutty Rom are out. Watch movies and take rest and come back after a month to see and try some new developments. This is the best donation you could ever give to this project.

@patp you are the only guy in this thread who know what's going on so please correct me if i said anything wrong in this post.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
Having a manager that is good with words is never a bad thing, especially since there are ALOT of users reading and posting here.

You closed your thread, and said goodbye. Now PLEASE dont come here and drag your bagage from the other thread with you.

You are clearly a developer and not a manager, so again, please stop giving false hopes here and go develop instead, or reopen your own thread.

How Sangreal is going to get in touch with the other developers is his problem, not yours.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
I don't want to give false hope that's why i closed my thread.

Giving a friendly advice to let you know truth is my foolishness.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
This is giving false hope.

You dont know this, so stop saying things like this. All it does is firing up peoples expectations. Thats one reason why the other thread ended up like it did.

Just stop.