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[Hero, G2 Touch Accessories] Huey85:
I've just ordered this: http://www.clearprotector.com/htc-hero-extended-protector.html

Hopefully it's not as tacky and is smoother than Zagg InvisibleSheilds.
[Hero, G2 Touch Accessories] soulonfirexx:
Let us know how well that works! Wonder how well "soapy water solution" will work to binding to Teflon.
[Hero, G2 Touch Accessories] Huey85:
Sure thing. I won't actually be using the back protective film because I've got a FlexiShield on order and should receive it later this week or early next week.
[Hero, G2 Touch Accessories] Shluggity:
I've had the Clear Protector on my Hero for more than a week now and it certainly does the job. Application is a bit finicky as you need plenty of 'lube' to get it to slide into position and then have to be careful not to move it when squeezing it out. It dries quickly though.

In use I don't find it particularly intrusive; sure it's slightly 'stickier' to the finger but I don't find scrolling/typing any less fluid tbh. An additional benefit is that the back protection provides just enough extra friction to stop the handset sliding around on smooth desks if using one-handed.
[Hero, G2 Touch Accessories] Huey85:
Nice to know. I just hope that when removing the back protection film off the phone that it won't stuff up the teflon coating.
[Hero, G2 Touch Accessories] gavinfabl:
Removed my Brando Ultra Clear Protector, very good too but ironically the protector shows my finger smudges. So decided to rely on Mr Teflon.
[Hero, G2 Touch Accessories] tiagobt:
I'm trying to decide between Brando and Boxwave. Has anyone tried both? Also, both brands have two models: "ultra clear" and "anti-glare". Which one would you guys go for? Boxwave is a bit more expensive, but maybe it's worth it.

Thanks,

Tiago
[Hero, G2 Touch Accessories] shelnes:
I think these are the best you get. And the best thing; your whole phone is protected against scratches.
[Hero, G2 Touch Accessories] justpyro:
I use these: http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/spm1hhrs.htm

They are cheap, the fit the screen well, and are easy to apply. They also don't have a really tacky feel that the Zagg shields do. I don't really notice much difference in touch. The screen itself now has a bit of a rainbow "sheen" look to it, but I can only notice it when the screen is off and there's a light to reflect off the screen.

I haven't tried removing it to see if it affects the screen, but I have read reviews stating it didn't harm the screen underneath.

- JustPyro
[Hero, G2 Touch Accessories] izmar:
Just bought a full body ZAGG for my Euro Hero, only $6 with free shipping on eBay! What a steal!
[Hero, G2 Touch Accessories] izmar:
Guess who managed to scratch the cover for the screen while applying it? Me.

I can't believe the applicator card would scratch it! It's actually more of a dent than a scratch. Either way, it looks like ****, so I plan on exchanging it. Lifetime warranty anyone? :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Accessories] idroid84:
They are annoying to apply! Got to make sure theres nothing in the air because as soon as you take it out the packet it attracts all sorts lol
[Hero, G2 Touch Accessories] zar69:
+1 for the Zagg Invisible Shield protection.

There are 2 versions:

screen only @$14.99

full body coverage @$24.99

bit.ly/cNgDyC
[Hero, G2 Touch Accessories] podb:
I had a really good screen protector! It only blurred a little bit the screen, but it was not disturbing.

About 5 months ago I removed the screenprotector because I wanted my bright, crisp screen back. Today there are no scratches on the device or what so ever!

I cary it in my jeans without a cover. Never tried it together with keys or such, but ... the screen is really really strong! I definitely can say that!
[Hero, G2 Touch Accessories] jaume6:
But If you want to protect all the front part of Hero you should buy more than 3.2 screen protector. There are two options: buy one designed for Hero or buy one more bigger, 2-3 extra inches, like iphone and cut it.

Podb

But if you casually hit the phone with a keys, or piece of metal... or any other accident like this you will get a damm scratch!!

That's the most important reason to use protector!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] danielherrero:
Hi

Is there any program (other than s2u2) that could lock the device when I turn on the device??

Dani

pd: I searched but I didnt find anything interesting....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ohyeahar:
Try search for csdevctrl.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] danielherrero:
mmmm, thanks but the process is resident ..... :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] danielherrero:
Well, I ve done a very small programs that ISNT resident and is executed by windows when the device is resume. This program executes \Windows\EndKey.exe. So if the long key end button is configured to lock the device then your device will be locked...

Dani
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dr_lovejoy:
This may be a stupid question, but I just can't figure out how to add a contact on my phone that is synced as a Google contact. Once I add a contact if I scroll down my list everyone has Google next to their name apart from the new guy that has Phone.

Anyone could let me know I would appreciate it, thanks.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dayzee:
Do you have your Hero set to Auto Sync Data in Data Synchronisation (in settings) if so, then you can check or uncheck contacts to auto sync. If not sure, try menu, sync now while in Data Sync.

I think maybe the contact has synced to google, but shows phone as that is where it came from. So check on PC if its there...? Maybe?

Daisy xxx
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dr_lovejoy:
Thanks for the quick reply Daisy, I tried as you asked but still it doesn't sync. I am hoping that HTC hasn't forgot to implement this in their people app. Because I remember you saying in a previous post that this is something that was not in the Magic.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] egoist6:
to all,

there are many threads floating around that all the well known apps to hide bottom bar and task (top) bar are not working anymore under WM6.5. i am talking about dcinobar (v1, v2), nuenobar (v1.3, v2.0) and vjtoggletoday (inkl. todayiialpha).

i want to start this thread to gather all relevant information here to overcome this problem.

@mods: please do merge other similiar threads in here

to make a start: i found the author of dcinobar

there are two versions of dcinobar and the author is also providing source code on his website.

maybe someone is more capable than me to use this source code as a hint to create a new app for this problem?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nothin:
good old dcinobar,

has nothing to do with 6.5 ****, tho.

it is like asking about remake of nuenobar..or vjtoggletoday.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] egoist6:
you seem to be knowledgeable.

is it not possible at all to hide bottom bar in wm6.5?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nothin:
i think it may be possible - for wm6.5 roms without titanium plugin at all - but NOT DONE, yet.

titanium changes handling of softkeybar(new, and maybe old manila is working same way), it may be not possible, surely it won't be easy...notice it is dynamic, not static as default 6.1 softkeybar..

sad to say - xdadev bacame strange place - you may find every possible software ripped from commercial products, ton of UGLY skins, but there is no developer to MAKE such thing, as just softkeybar remover...

just ms/htc software promo site...wow factor tragedy, imo.

btw, i am using hs++ too, i do not need titaniums, manillas, 15 mb+ mem loss, etc.

http://i26.tinypic.com/2hgwzs1.jpg
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] egoist6:
yeah. hs++ is great. it is the only ui which is easily highly customizable but does not consume much power and cpu.

i use it more iphone stylish like (see attached)

but back to the topic.

at least it is good news that it could be done, even with some limitations (like deactivated titanium or manila)

if only i could understand this. if you run dotfred's taskmanager and browse through the different windows one can see that the softbar window is cascaded, i.e. a window within a window within a window where the bottom bar is displayed.

it should be possible to hide or close this window (and keep it closed) and increase the size of the desktop screen :confused:

isn't anybody out here, who takes this as a challenge?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nothin:
yup, messy thing, imo..add sip-handler to that(wad shows that problem clearly)...

btw, i can recommend task manager 3.1, 3.5 for such insight operations.

app is perfect to be used in roms to determine whole lots of useful info + regeditor/regimporter.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jeanne8fr:
But I am using NueNoBar 2.0 on my Omnia with WM6.5 and it works fine..

Jeannette
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] egoist6:
lucky you:)

does it only hide the bottom bar for you or could you also use the space for your today screen?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jeanne8fr:
It hides the bottom bar and makes the space usable.

Using wm6.5 build 21928

Jeannette
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] egoist6:
yeah. this is how it used to work on my diamond wm6.1 - but not on wm6.5.

guess i have to wait for another wm6.5 build
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Nagrom Nniuq:
You can hide the bar on WM 6.5 fine as long as you disable the Titanium plugin. And since there is no reason to hide the bar if you are running Titanium, I fail to see the issue here.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] egoist6:
correct - you fail to see the issue here.

1. i am using hs++

2. many users have had recently problems in hiding bars with tools like dcinobar, nuenobar and vjtoggle (see my first post)

3. so do I (see my first post)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nothin:
but if there IS reason, wise guy?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Nagrom Nniuq:
I'm saying those bar hiding apps work fine under WM 6.5. I thought that was what you were trying to fix. If you let me know the reason I might be able to help. Saying you need help hiding the bottom bar in 6.5 when there is an app that works, well...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] egoist6:
that sounds more reasonable now.

could you specify which bars you are able to hide?

manila task and bottom bar

titanium task and bottom bar

today screen task and bottom bar
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Nagrom Nniuq:
As has been said already. Under WM 6.5 you can hide the today bottom and top bars as long as you are not using titanium or manilla. Those apps (dcinobar and vjs app) were designed to hide the bars but not to work on today screen plugins. If you want to modify a today plugin, you will have to hex edit the plugin directly and/or create a new program that modifies today plugins.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nothin:
[nvmd..sry for bothering you guys]
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] egoist6:
not sure if we are talking about the same. why would i hexedit a plugin in order to hide the today screen bottom bar.

hiding bottom (and task) bar is independent of the plugin as it is controlled by shell32.exe.

but you seem to know what you are talking about. let's give it a try. i am using homescreen ++ (see signature). what do i have to hexedit?

thanks in advance
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gfandrea:
I use Nuenobar 2.0 and it work fine. no problem!

wm 6.5 build 23004.5.3.0
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] egoist6:
are you able to use the space for your today plugins?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] drkfngthdragnlrd:
Actually, I think that control has been moved to the cmhome.dll for the Start Menu & Titanium at least. There is alot of mentioning of those bars in it. It even has a SoftKey Bar enabled entry. Also, you'll notice that only the Lockscreen, Start Menu, & CHome aka Titanium have transparent bars.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] egoist6:
yes, and that's why all bars (today or manila or titanium) are working differently.

if i make the bottom bars "transparent", i.e. replace the corresponding png file by transparent files only startmenu's, settings', etc bars become transparent, but not the today screen bottom bar.

as to my understanding today screen bars, titanium bars and manila bars have their own processes from where they are being controlled.

if you use dotfred's taskmanager and examine the today screen task and bottom bar, it finds shell32.exe as the correspondent process.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gfandrea:
yes i can! but sometimes the keyboard icon popup... not allways
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] egoist6:
i think maybe wm6.5 themes could cause the problem with bottom bar. what theme are you using - default wm6.5 ones or could you post your tsk file?

thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gfandrea:
I use this theme attached, with the softkeybar in the zip.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] egoist6:
thanks a lot.

however, it is not working. nuenobar only hides the softkeys (i.e. labels) but does not hide the bar itself.

i still can see the background image for the softkeybar (in ths case yours).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gfandrea:
As you can see, i can use all the space
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] egoist6:
yeah. i am not doubting that it works for you.

what version of nuenobar are you using? nueNoBar2-225-v2.0?

just out of curiosity: what plugins are you using?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dustinmcd:
This may not be an elegant solution, but you can use Second Today (by the same author of HS++). It has an option to hide the bottom bar on your "second" today screen; I've also not had any issues with the keyboard icon popping up.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gfandrea:
The cab name is "NueNoBar2 v2.0"

and the today plugins ar, in order, iconsoft phonex and resco contact manager 2nd edition.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] xpressyourcell:
I don't know about hiding them, but the top and bottom bars are skinable. You can replace them with totally transparent images to make them go away. I decent alternative to hiding them completely.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Nagrom Nniuq:
No, each plugin (Titanium and TouchFlo) have their own bottom bar that is independent from the default bottom bar of WM. I don't know how to edit that one to remove it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] egoist6:
yeah. i know they are skinnale, but on other devices i was able to use this space for other today screen's plugins.

for any reason it is rom dependent if nuenobar works or not
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] padma:
Differences between menubar in wm6 & wm6.5

This function creates a menu or softkey bar, as appropriate, to be associated with a specified window.

Syntax

BOOL SHCreateMenuBar(

SHMENUBARINFO * pmb

);

Parameters

pmb

[in] Pointer to an SHMENUBARINFO structure.

Return Value

This function returns TRUE if it is successful and FALSE if it fails.

Remarks

When successful, the newly created menu bar or soft key bar is positioned at the bottom of the specified window.

An application must resize its main window to accommodate the size of the menu bar. The following code shows how to programmatically determine the size of the menu bar.

Copy Code

hMenuBar = SHFindMenuBar( MyMainWindow);

GetWindowRect(hMenuBar, &MyRect);

In Windows Mobile 6.5, a soft key bar will be automatically created if the specification passed to SHCreateMenuBar function contains 2 or less top level menu items and those menu items do not contain images.

If the specification passed to SHCreateMenuBar function contains images or more than 2 top level menu items, the behavior is as follows.

SHCreateMenuBar will fail for Windows Mobile Standard.

SHCreateMenuBar will create a traditional style menu bar for Windows Mobile Professional and Windows Mobile Classic.

Code Example

The following code example demonstrates how to use SHCreateMenuBar.

Note:

To make the following code example easier to read, security checking and error handling are not included. This code example should not be used in a release configuration unless it has been modified to include them.

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#include <aygshell.h>

extern HINSTANCE g_hInstance;

HWND g_hwndMb;

HMENU g_hMenu;

#define IDM_HELLO_MENU 100

LRESULT CALLBACK SHCreateMenuBarWndProc(HWND hwnd, UINT message, WPARAM wParam, LPARAM lParam)

{

static fDisableSK = FALSE;

switch(message)

{

case WM_CREATE:

{

SHMENUBARINFO mbi;

ZeroMemory(&mbi, sizeof(SHMENUBARINFO));

mbi.cbSize = sizeof(SHMENUBARINFO);

mbi.hwndParent = hwnd;

mbi.nToolBarId = IDM_HELLO_MENU;

mbi.hInstRes = g_hInstance;

mbi.dwFlags = SHCMBF_HMENU;

if(SHCreateMenuBar(&mbi))

{

g_hwndMb = mbi.hwndMB;

TBBUTTONINFO tbbi = {0};

tbbi.cbSize = sizeof(tbbi);

tbbi.dwMask = TBIF_LPARAM | TBIF_BYINDEX;

SendMessage(g_hwndMb, TB_GETBUTTONINFO,0, (LPARAM)&tbbi);

g_hMenu = (HMENU)tbbi.lParam;

}

else

{

DestroyWindow(hwnd);

PostQuitMessage(1);

return(-1);

}

break;

}

case WM_KEYDOWN:

{

// When the user presses the space key, toggle between full screen and normal mode.

if (VK_SPACE == wParam)

{

if(fDisableSK)

{

SHEnableSoftkey(g_hwndMb, /*uid*, 0 for SK1, 1 for SK2*/1, /*bByIndex*/TRUE, TRUE);

}

else

{

SHEnableSoftkey(g_hwndMb, /*uid*, 0 for SK1, 1 for SK2*/1, /*bByIndex*/TRUE, FALSE);

}

}

break;

}

}

return DefWindowProc(hwnd, message, wParam, lParam);

}

In taskmanager, i've try to close all windows like "SOFTKEY & menuworker", it's work but the manilia home page don't use the new space, is configured to use only 480x748 , i don't know what i must to do to change this.

To remove softkey , you need to find where the resolution of hometab is configured.

sorry for my bad English ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] egoist6:
THAT is really a cool answer. unfortunately i am not capable of understanding everything as i am not familiar with c/c++ (only vb).

is it possible for you to write a prog that simply hides the bottom bar for today screen (not manila or titanium bars)

i have attached two screenshots.

one shows the two windows of the today screen bar, the other one are the windows for my today screen.

what dcinobar for example does is to hide the two windows for bottom bar and set the height to 0px at y-coordinate 748px (which should be 800) but for vga devices it was working fine (yes i know that nuenobar is working for some of you guys, but not on my miri rom and dutty rom)

would it be possible for you to write a simple app that hides the bar and increases the size of the desktop window?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ElCondor:
It would be very cool if we finally could use all the screenspace for more plugins. that's why I'm bumping this thread;)

Also, with the releases of more 6.5.1 builds, I think the code has changed.

Especially because the softeybar now has the start menu button and X button.

It will probably be doable to hide the bar of 6.5.1 (like 23037) too, but then you haven't got a start menu button anymore.

Or we assign a hardware button to the start button, but I think it's very hard to make a app like that.

That would be nice, because the taskbar/tray is now very small and the large softkeybar will also be gone. -> a lot of space to control more plugins.

Note that I am not a developer, I have little knowledge about coding.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] drkfngthdragnlrd:
Well I agree to keep in mind. If you plan to move on to the newer builds of 6.5, forget about removing the Buttom Bar which has been renamed to ToolBar. This is because the Start Menu Button as well as X & OK are now on it. The top bar is now renamed the Title Bar which only contains system icons & the name of the program in the active window. So unless your device has a Start Menu Hardware Button, good luck opening the Start menu when you remove said bar.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ElCondor:
Indeed, okay but there are apps that can assign several hw buttons like back or home to an action, I think 'start' would be possible. But maybe that's too much work. and X/OK button are not necessary in titanium. If you jump into another app, the toolbar will automatically show up because it is different from the toolbar in chome.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] :
I read most of this post, but didn't understand : In 6.5.x , can we make at least transparent the bottom bar? Is it a .jpg or something that i could copy it get it to photoshop and make transparent or changing it with another photo? I am talking about the bar, not the buttons that this have. Thanks ,
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] diboze:
bump.

anyone found a way to disable the toolbar/bottombar in wm6.5 or wm 6.5.*?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] BoyBawang2:
Me want too! I wanna hide the useless softkey bar in my Homescreen!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DonDizzurp:
bump................
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kit0515:
i will bump... i want this as well
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] diboze:
Bump bump bump
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Izzy180:
Hey all.

I currently use windows mobile 6.1 on the device and it works great, but I am giving it to a friend that wants to use the original software it came with (WM2003)

How can I go about restoring it, and also is it possible to keep it unlocked so any sim can be used in it like now?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Rudegar:
flashing is flashing you go back to wm2003 by flashing a wm2003 rom on it just

like to did to go to wm6.1

and going back to an ealier rom will not sim lock the phone
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Izzy180:
Okay I found what I thought to be a wm2003 rom but it dosen't seem to want to work.

It flashes okay but when it turns on at the o2 logo it says NO GSM and of course I don't get a signal.

Is there anyway of getting hold of a wm2003 rom that does work?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] khonje:
Unlock code

Unlock code for xda 2 02 smartphone windows mobile fccdd,nm8himalaya ph 10b please help
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] khonje:
Unlock code

Network is locked please help with unlock code for xda 2 02 smartphone windows mobile fccdd,nm8himalaya serial number or unlocking software with the drivers

help..
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Rudegar:
some newer radiostacks only works with newer roms get an older radiostack
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] kaystees:
Hi all,

Previously I owed a HTC touch 3g phone which uses the touch flow 2d I think, in which when I am surfing in opera, I am able to press the start button that will take me to the today screen. When I click on the quick menu I would still be able to see opera running.

I've just switched to the TD2, and when I click on the start button, It now brings me to the program list, which is fine, but the quick menu doesn't show opera running anymore, its as if It's closed.

Even on the task manager, it shows that opera is not running anymore.

This is crucial to me, as I often use the quick menu to navigate from running apps to apps.

I've searched the forum and couldn't find a solution, any ideas would be helpful.

Thanks!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] kaystees:
Oh bummer, can someone at least point me to a right page, if this is a redundant question? I really could not find a solution and its killing.

many thanks!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] alfish2000:
I did a quick search in the registry and found that:

HKCU\Software\HTC\TaskManager\ExclusiveList\System\Opera9.exe

I simply renamed "Opera9.exe" to "Opera9.exe_" and did a soft reset.

Now Opera is visible in the task list.

Have Fun.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] kaystees:
Awesome! It works now..

Thanks a bunch!