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[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Right, so why did you have to make those changes? Because there were bugs, related to Manila. You had to add AlbumSearcher.exe for pictures to view in Manila. You had to add HTCScroll for other items related to Manila to work. You had to add files for settings in Manila to work............Oh, and the major phone RAM issue with Phone Canvas....you had to fix all of those things, why? Because you have Manila in there.

So, why would someone ask a chef to create a base 6.5 ROM from the same kitchen that made a Manila ROM?? You've got all of those files that would have to be removed, and then there's other files that were probably duplicates that he'd have to go back and recover...That's a lot of work for making a ROM that ALREADY exists.

There is nothing unstable about the current 6.5 ROM's. JustHome was VERY unstable on the latest version because of the build it was built off of. I want you to realize that the current 6.5 ROM's are off a NEWER build, which means that you can actually text!

And even more...FingerMe 6.5 is from the exact same 23016 WM6.5 port, so it's EXACTLY the same ROM as mine or Ill's, except that apreincher added Manila.

So, why the heck would you want him to remove Manila, making it EXACTLY the same as the other existing ROM's???
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] gwcooperjr:
Easy man!

Ace go easy........... wooooo your hot.......... we all know u rock dude!!!!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Just saying that we don't need another extra ROM of the same thing. We've already got 4 of em!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] maricela0325:
Twilight

I know you might think this is lame, but I am a twilight fan and I'd like to know if yo.u know of any themes in here for the tmobile wing that are available? If not can you cook one up I'll pay you.:)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] tonyc0642:
Wrong forum- Please post in the general forum. This forum is only meant for ROM issues and ROM development.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Variety is the spice of life, Ace. You don't all implement the same fixes or the same everything else.

This is going a bit far. I know what you're trying to say, but we should all respect each others as cooks and not tell each other's users to jump ship.

This thread needs a little lock, a little clean and a little reopen...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] appan:
well we dont need to kill each other for some facts and truth.

I have a Question, how come theres no battery meter on the start bar? just curious,

i dont know about anyone else but i will be 100% satisfied if this room, get rid of the Manila and make it a plain 6.5 Rom,

i need to learn to cook a ROM, it will be my next thing, thanks for this ROM. keep it up

hope u will take our request in consideration. :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Learn how to cook, it's easy: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=541504

You can get the 6.5 bases from my threads on numb3rs, I uploaded them there: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=544500 (bottom of the first post). Just replace your SYS and XIP folders from the kitchen with that one you downloaded.

Or, use SuperJustKitchen, whichever fits your fancy.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
This thread is done. Please do not post here. If you have any questions or bug reports, PM me.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
I haven't noticed it... But if any of you test the build and find it let me know.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kienkham:
Very fast ROM. Can you please take a look at Wifi - I couldn't get it to start. Thanks
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
Yeah wifi is a little weird in this one. I got mine to work, but it had to go through the inconvenient wm6.1 wifi screen. I'm going to try another package and see if that helps any. Did you try enabling it in the comm manager?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
The Mega Comm Manager doesn't control the Herald Wifi properly. (Many Comm Managers don't but that's easily fix, so it shouldn't be very complicated to fix on this, either.)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kienkham:
Yes, I tried to use the "ON/OFF" button to toggle the Wifi. It didn't work. I use "Wifi" icon to open the WLAN setting and was able to "Turn off the Wifi". That is my work around for now because I love the speed and sharpness of this ROM. Thanks
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
Well the comm manager works out of the box. It'll bring up a screen that says Configure Wireless Network. If you click the Menu soft-key, and then On. It'll turn it on.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
So clicking on the wifi button in the comm manager turns on the wifi automatically? What about the bluetooth?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] DestructDez1:
Great ROM. Love the look and feel.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
Well it actually doesn't turn it on, it just opens the Wifi manager, and bluetooth doesn't work unfortunately... Crap. Any ideas on how to fix these Ivan?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] elazullizard:
No, I'm talking about the HTC Wifi Internet Sharing. I think they also got it from a new VGA ROM. wapvirus had to port it to QVGA. But, like you said before, it might not be compatible with my wifi chip, since the CommManager also has problems with the Wing. And, no, it didn't work with JustHome, JustStable, or PointROM.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Not all the wifi drivers support tethering through wireless, unfortunately. I'm assuming our driver don't, either. But that's just a wild guess.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Unfortunately, I never really used these packages for more than a few seconds so I never bothered to figure out a way to fix them.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kienkham:
The "Sound" in Settings menu also does not work. Thanks
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Huh, you mean the Sounds & Notifications menu? So what happens when you open it?

Or do you mean that some of the sounds don't play? Like when you're trying to preview ringtones and such? I'm thinking that Apreincher might have removed some ringtones and such.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] toadlife:
You have to modify the registry settings (in the *.rgu file) for the comm manager package to make it control the WIFI the Wing/herald.

Compare the registry settings from a working comm manager (like default the one from my kitchen) with the registry settings from the comm manager you are using and you will be able to see the differences.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kienkham:
From the Manila 2D Home Screen, Slide to Settings, Click on Sounds (Phone Profile and System Sounds): Nothing will happend! Thanks
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Oh. Yea, that's an issue with the Manila 2D interface. It's tough to make Manila 2D links work, but apreincer might be able to figure it out.

I also bet that the search tab on Manila doesn't do anything, either.

But for future bug reports, try to be more descriptive, everyone! It helps out the cooks of the ROM's (which I'm not the cook of this one).
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
That's partially my fault, I didn't include the sound application. I'll work on that shortly.

Also, I'll work on the comm manager too. I've got a new release coming tonight with some editions. :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
hey bro when you released the version can u disable the phone canvas bro that thing is making the rom having low ram all the way to 9mb since i disable it im having 15 to 18mb of free ram
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
A Windows Mobile 6.5 Build is up!

I'm still going to develop the 6.1 build as I feel that I can get more RAM out of it than I currently am. I'll do some further fixing on 6.1

Try the 6.5 build for now, it uses the stock dialer. I'm working on seeing if I can do something about the dialer.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
hey bro the link is not valid bro i cant download it man and yea man 6.1 need sum fixing and for me i think stock dailer is already good
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
Link is fixed. Thanks.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
hey bro can u make the 6.5 rom to not delete da cabs when u install man?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
Yeah I'll include the fix in the next 0.2 release. Until then, you can install the cab attached.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
oh one more thing bro srry to bother man but how do u make da sip keyboard black r not so black bro thx man i appriecated bro
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
You can try this cab I found. I'm not sure if it will work or not but give it a try.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
i try it bro n it didnt work man
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
Manilla Sound Settings have been fixed in the 6.5 build.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] librahiant:
can i flash this rom to my wing and have no problem with it, it wont crash my phone, and nice rom dude those picture look really nice reply as soon as you can please and thank you
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
As long as you follow the proper flashing guides. It wont crash your phone, but I can't guarantee you wont find bugs, especially in the 6.1 release. Keep in mind these are only 0.1 beta releases.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ShuShine:
nice rom! Using it right now. I really like the interface.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
Which build are you using? WM 6.1 or 6.5?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kienkham:
Dream came true: Manila 2D with WM 6.5! I have not overclocked my Wing yet, don't think I need to do so because this ROM is fast already. Thanks very much for sharing great ROM. Thanks
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
I think he's stating that "He CAN flash it with no problems".
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] l3ent:
excellent ROM for sure, running 6.5 right now, having trouble with homescreen plusplus and some of the links in the settings menu do not work, such as the setup email button. So far that's all I have found. Great Job Man.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Homescreen PlusPlus might not be compatible with 6.5, then.

I personally never use the settings panel of TouchFLO. But apreincher might be able to fix those broken links.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kienkham:
I am a big fan of HomeScreen Plus Plus but didn't install it with this Manila 2D version - because this latest HTC Mega interface is so nice and fast! My own judgment anyway. I have Resco Explorer version 7.05 installed on the MicroSD but can't run it with Finger Me 6.5 version :mad:. I got the soft-key to display and function but do not get the file list! I use Total Commander in its place for now.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] drmidnight:
Don't know if you said already but what build of wm 6.5 is this?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
23016 (the latest) created by me.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
23017

;)

But there have been some bugs reported on it. I don't know if they were user created during the porting process or if they were build related.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
What bugs???

It's better than 23009, where you can't even log in, or you can't even txt. I haven't seen any bugs on this one.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Not in 23016. Reread the message again. :p
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Well, he was asking what build of WM6.5 FingerMe was. And it IS 23016 from the Mega ROM.

Then you said that it's 23017, as if I had a typo.

So, yea.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] suprduprchunk:
I cant get HTC Task manager to work with version 6.1. I am trying 6.5 right now. Is there a known issue with this.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
I know about this. I didn't think it was necessary to include the Email Setup Wizard for Manilla2D. If enough people want it, I'll include it.

Yes. That's partially why I didn't include it with the release. I tried to implement the one from Mega but it wasn't working out either."

Version 0.2 Should be up by Monday. If there are any additions you would like to see let me know.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
LZX Version

Hey it would be awsome if you included a LZX version bro
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ShuShine:
i'm using 6.5, overclocked to 252mhz and it's working fine. The comm button does not work, there's a shortcut error but it's just a minor issue. aside from that i haven't found other issues yet.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] fishwiz45:
overclocking?

what are you using to overclock? when using m2d or titanium i couldn't get battery status or any other today plug to work with them???
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ShuShine:
i'm using omapclock_and_omapclockplusv0.0.4

see attached file
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] tonyc0642:
I use SurrealNetworks PowerControl+OMAP, its essentially the same as previously posted.

Also, is there any way you could add htc connection wizard in your next build, or just a cab for it even? I'm on at&t, and manually configuring data and mms sucks.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
The bold was accidental, but the point was that there is an even newer, yet reportedly buggy build.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
To fix the bluetooth issue in the Comm Manager, try settings:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\CommManager]

"BluetoothPlatformType"=dword:00000000
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] raptoro07:
I am wondering, anyone using this 6.5 rom, how is it on RAM? When i installed this new manila 2.0 on top of wm 6.5 (not cooked in) it kept running RAM lower and lower and needed frequent resets and was ultimately unusable. How is this build? The claim is ~15mb RAM on normal use, is this acurate? Thanks.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
yes this is accurate
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
I'm running the 6.5 build right now as my core phone OS, to give it some more testing. I have never gone below ~12.5mb no matter how much I use it. So I'd say the estimate is pretty accurate.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] skystar1621:
Phone won't ring!?!

Hi Everybody.

Great ROM (I'm using the 6.5)! Seems to be pretty smooth. I don't know if anybody else has this issue, but when I receive a call my phone does not ring or vibrate. It is currently set to ring and vibrate. However, when I receive a call, I get the message on the screen, but no ring! Very strange.:confused:

Skystar1621
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
Yeah that is weird. There's no problems on my end.

I'm also going to work on the comm manager bugs, although for 6.5 the bugs don't exist because I used a different comm manager than the 6.1. Some more things that should be expected for 0.2...

-Settings Manilla pane should be fixed

-Phonecanvas should either be removed or replaced for 6.1

-Further updates coming.

0.2 Still scheduled for Monday.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] bushgegner:
Nice work, testing now for an hour. Some little bugs which i will report in the next days. But one other thing would be fine. Could you pls change the startup picture above finger me beta into htc or something like that. dont wanna see your device by booting on my wing ^^

thx bushgegner
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
Yeah I'll remove the intro picture and replace it with an HTC logo... So keep FingerMe text or no? This is your ROM guys, it's up to you.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kienkham:
I liked the current intro picture but I am just one of many vote!

1. In the "Settings", "Wallpaper" and "Mail Setup" doesn't work.

2. Can you change the HTCHomeSettings.xml to a non "Read only" status? I used the Manila2DCustomizer (by Mpenguin 14) to change the setting. The system hung up when tried to write to this file.

3. Can you also check why Resco Explorer doesn't work with this ROM? It work fine with JustHome ROM (all version).

4. Is there a way to remove the "Window Default", i.e: WM 6.5 Home Screen from this ROM? It is much slower than Manila 2D Home Screen.

I feel like a child asking for lot of candy but don't want to give any thing! Well, I am very addicted to flashing ROM now, I flashed my phone at least 5 times/week. Thanks
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Already reported.

I've tried changing the XML file, I tried editing it, etc. But I could never save it, I think. Only way I made changes to it was when I cooked my own ROM with Manila in it. Maybe this newer build of Manila isn't compatible with the Manila2D Customizer? And did you try changing the file to uncheck the "Read Only" property? You can do that using Total Commander, or your PC. But I forget if that even worked. I think it didn't.

Idk about Resco Explorer. I'll let the cook of this ROM, apreincher, answer that.

"Windows Default" isn't running. At least it shouldn't be. When Manila2D is running, the "Windows Default" (called Titanium) is already disabled. All it's taking up is storage memory, not RAM. But I think it might be possible for apreincher to remove Titanium from the ROM, completely.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
1. Yeah the first one is a known bug. I havent been able to update the first post with the bug, I will soon. I will be working in the next release to fix this bug. There are other packages with Manilla that extend the settings, so I can give those a try.

2. Manilla2DCustomizer is NOT compatible with the new Manilla2D unfortunately. Any changes will have to be done through reg edits it appears. I'm working on cooking in Opera Mini as the default browser for Manilla, if that's what you're thinking. Unfortunately, getting the customizer to work is not on the start of my list of priorities, but I'll see what I can do.

3. I can try Resco Explorer, I'm not sure exactly why it doesn't work. I'll see what I can do. It could possibly be the newest 6.5 release, but I don't know for certain. I'll have to test it further.

4. Maybe, maybe not. Titanium may be involved with more in this ROM other than the homescreen... So I would have to check. I am thuroughly commited to lightening the load that this ROM has on our phones, so I promise you I will keep testing.

5. As for flashing frequently... Join the club. My wing is my main phone, unfortunately, since the start of cooking i have had to flash roughly 10 times a day. I'm not sure if it's healthy for it lol, oh well...

This is for you guys, so don't feel bad about requesting stuff. Keep in mind, there's only so much I can do, so I can't promise anything, but I will try my best.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
All files cooked are going to be read only. It's the nature of the process.

You could always copy the file from the windows directory into another part of the phone, remove the read only tag. Then copy it back into the windows folder. It won't truly overwrite the original file but the way that the windows mobile file structure works, it will overlay the original file so that every program/person attempting to access it will see the "new" file instead of the original.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
EVERYONE: If you get the Windows Mobile update notification, DISMISS IT. If you say yes to checking to updates, then your ActiveSync connection seems to not work anymore.

(I think this will happen to the FingerMe ROM, unless apreincer disabled it. WinMo6.5 only)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ShuShine:
hi, how do you free up RAM normally it's only around 8mb
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] tonyc0642:
Found a couple of bugs, not sure if they have been reported.

1. The voice command button isn't working.

2. Standby button doesn't work right, I get a white screen if I try to put my wing to sleep. But if I let it go to standby its fine. But when I try to wake it up, it doesn't work unless i hit the button a bunch of times, then I get a white screen again, and the only way out of that is hitting end a bunch(20+ times) or holding down standby until it asks if I want to shut the phone off. If I say no, the white screen finally goes away.

3. My wifi works, but is extemely slow. It took IE almost 15 seconds to load Google.com. I'm pretty sure its not my router or my signal, because my Shadow is loading it in about 6 seconds.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Disable Phone Canvas. It's been known to be a RAM hog. After that you should get about 15 MB, I think. (to disable it, you have to do a registry edit, and since I haven't used Phone Canvas for ever, I forget the edit, maybe someone else knows it??)

Voice Command button won't work because apreincher removed Voice Command.

Owch. Idk about that.

Internet Explorer is just SLOW. Nothing more. Well, if your Shadow loaded it faster, than that's weird. WAIT...Your Shadow was loading the mobile Google.com site. Your Wing was loading the desktop version. On your Wing (in IE) go to the menu, and then click the menu button, click Veiw, and then Mobile.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
1. Ace is right, I didn't include Voice Command.

2. I'm not too sure about the standby issue. Which version of the ROM are you using, 6.1 or 6.5? Im currently on my 6.5 build and I haven't experienced this problem.

3. Yeah the shadow loads a mobile version I think. Try going into the IE settings and set it to show a mobile version and then test. Either way, Opera Mini will be included in my next release.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
I've got plans to free up more RAM for my 6.1 release. Unfortunately, as of right now in 0.1, 6.5 generally has better RAM usage than 6.1 which is weird. Phone canvas will be removed or replaced in the 0.2 release.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
You could tell them to disable Phone Canvas with a registry tweak.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
Won't be necessary in a few days :).
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Many people can't wait a few days.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
Well it doesn't exist in my 6.5 release, but to appease you Ace.

If anyone needs more RAM on 6.1 on my 0.1 release, disable phone canvas.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] tonyc0642:
1. Well that explains that lol. I'll just map another shortcut there I guess.

2. I'm using 6.5.

3. I didn't even notice that. That's probably it. I'm running 6.5 with PIE from Pro on my Shadow, but it doesn't work without a virtual cursor, so I'm using a Mortscript changer to use the old version, which would load it in mobile view.

Also, do you know of anyway to move cooked in apps to the storage card to save memory?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Not possible. I'm quite sure that would never work. But Opera Mini isn't even installed on this current version, so that's no problem right now.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
Unfortunately, cooked in apps cannot be removed or moved. And some apps don't work in the storage card.

Do you wish that voice command could come back or do you just want all of the soft-keys to work correctly?

Also, if you could, what would you add or remove from the release?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] tonyc0642:
Do programs take up less memory when cooked in versus installed after the fact?

I don't use voice command a ton, but it would be nice when using bluetooth, which I do use often. Here's a few programs I use often that I wouldn't mind seeing:

Skyfire

Opera Mini

Google Sync

Inbox Extender (don't know if that'll fly on 6.5)

SN PowerControl+OMAPClock

Total Commander

Some sort of mem mgr like CleanRam or Oxios

The rest are apps I personally use and most others probably wouldn't lol
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
That is a very hefty list. That'll make apreincher's ROM biggg.

But, apps that are cooked in tend to run better (performance wise). Some problems, are that they aren't upgradable. So things like Google Maps should never be cooked in, because you can't upgrade to the next version. Once a newer version of GooMaps comes out, the old one basically stops working.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] tonyc0642:
That's what I was afraid of. We don't want it too bloated.

I hadn't thought about the upgrading aspect. In that case I would just say:

Inbox Extender (don't know if that'll fly on 6.5)

SN PowerControl+OMAPClock

Total Commander

Some sort of mem mgr like CleanRam or Oxios

If you need the cabs for any of them let me know.