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[Hero, G2 Touch General] Switchbitch:
A bit of both to be honest. I'll try get a pic and put it up later.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] tatwamasi:
Just got the replacement, seems to be about the same. :(
[Hero, G2 Touch General] R3PUBL1K:
Still no good one, but it was better than the second one I received - though I still backed it.

I sent a link to the person I was speaking with to this thread and the image from mrwatson. ;)

She said that she'll see what can be done about this issue and also asked what I would like to do so I suggested a TP2 or TD2 (if possible, but unlikely) the third option is cancel my upgrade and wait for a phone I like to be release.

Such a shame as I really like this Hero, lets see what happens next.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] tatwamasi:
I just tried running my fingernail along the seal, pushing it towards the gap, it seems to have made it a little better, might glue it later if I can find something with a suitably small applicator because I don't think I can be bothered returning the handset/waiting around for a courier again.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] R3PUBL1K:
Orange have escalated the issue and I am waiting for a response, in the mean time my upgrade has been cancelled, once this handset is checked-in at the warehouse in Banbury and I am contract free again until this issue is resolved or I see a phone I like.

I was told to keep the headset and MicoSD
[Hero, G2 Touch General] spacecat:
i think this is one of the most hyped up complaints ever, most people would have not noticed anything and been perfectly happy with their phones if they hadnt read this thread

i looked at mine and there is the very slightest of gaps but also a rubber seal as well! I have no dead pixels and i am more than happy with the situation.

i would hate to send it back and get another one with a bright dead pixel smack in the middle of it. If it buggers up in the next 12 months then its under warranty if not then its fine isnt it.

no one even knows if dust can get under the screen in the first place! seal or not

If you look closely at any thing you buy electronic or otherwise you will often find some minor imperfection
[Hero, G2 Touch General] R3PUBL1K:
You obviously have not seen the ones I had and if I am paying for it via contract I want one with no noticeable defect.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] mwatson:
I noticed the gap immediatley. Remember this isn't a £50 PAYG phone from Asda. I paid £400 and expect it to reflect that. You can buy a good laptop for that price. Being a mobile its gotta be right. If we don't complain HTC will not learn in future builds.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Leviathon:
I'm awaiting on my first Hero from Orange, should be arriving today before 1pm. Will post my findings upon arrival, hopefully good news.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] danielferguson:
Unfortunately I've only noticed that the gap was a problem after reading this thread and I'm a few days past my 7 day period. Is there anything I can do? :(
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Switchbitch:
Technically it's a fault so the 7 day period is irrelevant. Contact the supplier, tell them there is a fault and that you want to return it for a replacement. It may be wise to contact HTC first, who have already confirmed the fault so that your supplier will be more likely to play nice with HTC's advice that you return it.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] R3PUBL1K:
Just call them - I did after having min for 20 days and after having 3 of them - Orange decide to cancel my upgrade as there is no other handset I want at the moment

Totally agree - :D This is a flaw in the manufacturing process.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] crash_194:
I totally disagree with what has been said about a manufacturing defect. Its merely a dust seal and i guess its quite possible it is within manufacturing tolerances?

I have taken onboard what has been said about HTC aknowledging the fact that it shouldnt be like it (or did i read that on another forum?) but at the end of the day that doesnt mean a great deal that may just be lip service from a poorly informed switchboard. As with anything, these handsets must have been subject to a quality control procedure and would have never made it out on to the shelves if they didnt conform to it surely?

However, I am faced with the same predicament. I have a gap in my screen but I'm not so sure I want a new handset as at this current state in time i love it and I'm over the moon with it and more importantly there isn't really anything wrong with it.

I went into the orange shop in derby today and spoke with a very helpful guy called Raj who luckily had exactly the same handset and provided an excellent comparison between mine and his. His screen fitted exactly. And we used a good test by trying to insert my car parking ticket around the edge.

I explained my concern that i had signed up to a 2 year contract and as is currently stood i couldnt see my handset lasting a couple of months without becoming hindered by dust behind the screen. Im going back in tomorrow to discuss it with the manager and see what solution can be arranged. I'll update accordingly!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Switchbitch:
I definitely get what you're saying but in my case I was simply using 2 things as a comparison.

The first was the fact that the screen gap/rubber seal is not equal along the top as it is to the other 3 sides. That's quite odd, it shouldn't be like that. Secondly, pretty much every other high end phone I've had has had no imperfections at all. My mp3 players have had no imperfections, my laptop had no imperfections. And a cutting edge smartphone I pay £400 outright for is jolly well not going to have any imperfections either :)

One of the major selling points of the Hero is the design; a lot of effort went into creating something with aesthetic merit so if it has manufacturing flaws, even if they really are just cosmetic, then it's basically not acceptable.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] crash_194:
Well I have more to report! Despit my own personal thoughts I thought i would go out to bat for us all and take the opinion this isn't acceptable build quality for a high end circa £400 handset :p

I have been in to the orange shop today and needless to say it was an absolute f%*#ing waste of time! lol :mad: The guy in the shop blatently denied there was anything wrong with the phone and said in his eyes there was nothing wrong with the hanset so they weren't prepared to do anything about it. What pissed me off was the fact he got another brand new handset out the back and it was exactly the same as mine with the gap visible around the top edge of the screen!

Needless to say i still wasn't happy with it. I said if you had a gap around your television like that would you be happy? or if your windscreen on your car wasn't sealed properly would you be happy? And if the same guy had fitted 10 windscreens on 10 cars and none of them were sealed properly would that be acceptable?....And I went on and on and I put him in a very awkward situation. He was clearly not able to offer a counter argument so he just stood there went red and said there is nothing we can do "sorry".

BUT...I have been in touch with HTC. After a couple of phone calls and explaining the situation with the phone, and also telling them the experience i'd had at the orange shop they have led me to believe they see this as a serious issue and it has been escalated within HTC. I have been informed somebody will be contacting me for further details and information within the next few days.

Now here is the number i rang for HTC Europe 01202714530 I would suggest everyone with the same issue and concern, contact this number and voice there opinions on the matter as this this will only help the cause!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Switchbitch:
Excellent work! It is more leverage on our side if HTC fully acknowledge the problem.

Thanks for your information too, I will steer clear of Orange in future :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Aqrab:
I changed my mind of buying the hero after reading this thread :(

i will go for samsong omnia 2 pro or Samsung I7500 Galaxy (Android OS)

sorry htc but you did this to your self (the diamond 2 have a screen gap , touch pro 2 have a screen gap and now the hero ???)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] tatwamasi:
What did they say?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Foka002:
Hmm I'm expecting delivery from t-mobile tommorow, never have chance to read this thread. I have to wait now and pray. I'll let know tommorow.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Roy_Drage:
I got mine from t-mobile (black) only a couple weeks ago and it's absolutely fine. No gaps.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Foka002:
I have received G2 today and there is no GAP but i found 1 dead pixel. It's very very small and i can live with it.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Golgo:
I'd say that those of you who are stepping away from buying a Hero because of "poor build quality" should think again.

HTC is known for excellent build quality and while all new devices will inevitably have a certain percentile of faulty units, I'd venture a guess that that number is lower for HTC than for most other manufacturers. To think that for example Samsung would be any better is quite optimistic, imo.

Besides, if it does have a screen gap or a dead pixel or whatever - just return it and get a new one, yes?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] tatwamasi:
I'm on my fifth Hero, never had a problem with any phone before!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Aqrab:
why should i return it if i will get the same problem in the new one :(

i really like HTC Devices :( But what can I do

maybe ill wait to October and see what HTC Hidden from us
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Golgo:
Wow, that's... odd. Guess they're giving you replacements from the same faulty batch or something.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Switchbitch:
I'm on my 6th Hero. The previous one's all had brightly lit dust specks under the screen and/or a screen gap. Personally I think a high percentage of them have either or both of these problems but most people don't notice. I'm nearly OCD with this kind of thing though which is why I returned so many.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] nicelad_uk:
I had the same issues with my Touch Pro 2, when the 4th was bad, I just gave up and sent it back. Then pondered on an old Nokia 8250 (my god, makes you appreciate new phones!) and waited for the Hero.

It was really a god send!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Switchbitch:
I think the Hero is awesome and in a league of its own but these build issues have put me right off HTC. It won't be long until other manufacturers bring out some awesome Android devices (SE Rachael...?) and when that day comes, HTC will be a lot less appealing after my first hand experience of their extremely poor quality control.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Foka002:
I have noticed few more dead pixels and now I,m wondering if I missed them the first time I looked or did they spread. Can they spread?
[Touch GSM General] cyanide911:
I'm using TouchFLO 2D version 1.0.1820, and it has Audio Manager 2.0 built in. Is there a way to skin this player, because it has a very boring white theme. I found many themes for previous versions of Audio Manager, but none for 2.0. Any links, pointers?

Also, has anyone here OC'd their Elf(in)'s processor? If yes, then to what frequency, and what was your experience?
[Touch GSM General] jeremy89632:
Hmmm, 2.0

Just asking, is there any changes compared to previous versions of Audio Manager.

I use Kinoma FreePlay, Windows Media and CorePlayer.
[Touch GSM General] cyanide911:
I haven't used the previous versions, but from the screenshots I can make out 2.0 has a cleaner interface.

One of the few pictures I found:
[Touch GSM General] jeremy89632:
It looks cool.

for play themes, check out the development and hacking thread.

http://www.google.com.sg/search?cli...+and+hacking&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[HTC Vox] sasanhz:
Hi to everybody.If anybody solved the problem ,please let me know. Thanks.
[HTC Vox] RxenDrav:
hi friend, please refer here...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=535198
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stats101:
Sent my phone in for repair, and it seems that the ROM version was updated. As a result, it seems that the projected display doesn't cover the whole screen. There is a noticeable gap at the bottom and right of the screen. Is there a way to stretch or realign the screen through registry? (I've tried the display align settings, but it doesn't seem to make any difference).
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oTToToTenTanz:
Pictures?

A little gap is on my device as well. At the bottom. But it's almost not noticable.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stats:
Not for pictures - but in general.... it's almost as if the display doesn't stretch the full length and width of the screen.
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] lanzera88:
Has this been done for Cyanogen 3.9.1?

I would love to see it in the Dark Hero skin...
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] alritewhadeva:
No it has not been ported to any cupcake ROM yet.
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] illrific:
do anybody know where i can get the lock screen widget and whats the htc people widget
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] alritewhadeva:
Look in a hero build. /data/app_s
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] illrific:
where do i look for a hero build @
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] alritewhadeva:
dream android development
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] illrific:
ugh i dont see it
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] alritewhadeva:
you're joking http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=448
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] illrific:
well actually i dont know watt im looking for u said hero build but like where does the data/app_s come in @
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] Breakthecycle2:
Forget man...don't even try it then.
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] AbsoluteDesignz:
lol

10chars
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] DAKIDD236:
loll too funny
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] dragon4000:
Correct me if im wrong... but dont u need something else other than the apk?? Cuz last time i tried pull something from a hero rom, i installed the apk but got a fc every time i tried to use it...
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] pinkxpinkii:
i love this widget. cant a dev just start from scratch? it doesnt have to be the same as htc. but similar to it. no need to port it over.
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] superGOAT:
What has become of xda? Why is this forum filled with children?!
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] JackD3ath:
Its summertime!
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] superGOAT:
Are you answering my question or are you just being a complete moron like the rest of them?
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] jockinRON_T:
i was wondering if anyone knows how to edit the htc people widget...i wanna remove people from it...and i don't have any idea. pls help
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] imbonez9:
Are you kidding me?! just remove them as favorites!!! Holy hell the kids are outa school again!!!!:(:(:(
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] Diceman4:
LOL, no kidding... This is one of the silliest not-yet-locked threads that I have stumbled upon. Almost every question had me giving my monitor a puzzled look and mumbling "really???" and I had no response that was even moderately appropriate. (Especially since it seems by the quality of recent questions posted that many people couldn't even see an R-rated movie...)
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] imbonez9:
Can they see PG13?
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] hiroots:
sorry i replyed to the wrong post.
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] blackvyper:
I was wondering the same thing. People are here looking for answers in the forum then you have others that say 'search another thread', 'are you kidding' or 'Google it'.. I think they are some sad individuals. They should help out or get out..
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] acejoker25000:
well people dont want to answer a question thats already been answered 1000 times and can be easily solved with a simple search instead of cluttering up forums with useless questions!! people should learn to use the search button instead of just hitting the post button!!! it gets stupid and people begin to lose patience!!! so dont blame the people that say 'are you kidding' or 'google it' blame the people that cant use a simple search button!!!
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] Binary100100:
i have to agree. The majority out of all of my posts are helping noobs with questions that have already been answered. i usually try to answer 2 questions in Q&A a night. But then I get noobs blowing up my PM with stupid questions and then getting mad when I don't want to help them anymore. I even had one noob mess up his phone because he flashed a RC33 theme on a Cyanogen rom! He didn't know how to use adb. He didn't even know what a recovery image was. I don't have patience for people like that anymore. 90% of the questions asked now have already been answered and it is stupid to post a new question instead of searching for the one that is already answered. So if I see a really easy and stupid question like "How do I install HardSPL?" or anything like that... I let him/her hanging and refuse to answer. Now if it's a legitimate question that is rarely asked or hasn't been asked then I'm always happy to put some effort into it. But I get so burnt out on the Q&A section that I just don't feel up to helping people anymore. But that's just me.
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] senaia:
it's not just people asking the same questions over and over that clog up the forum, it's also the people saying "use search". personally i think if you have nothing helpful to say to people asking questions, then simply don't post, mikey and other mods spend hours each day removing pointless posts and threads, removing already answered questions is one thing, but having to remove posts that are 2 or 3 words regarding search and google is a little bit rediculous, maybe if we can all learn to search thouroughly before posting, and only post useful information about a possible solution to a problem, then the forum will be clean, tidy, and friendly :)

on another note, i realise the irony in which this post is both already answered, and contains no useful information :D

and it's also not aimed at anybody at all, just if people read it wrong, they may think i'm basing my opinion on their posts... if that makes sense :)
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] AndroidFiend:
There's an app for that.

Contact Sidebar

http://www.androlib.com/android.application.albr-android-sidecallbar-qzzC.aspx
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] challenger150:
It looks like HTC has heared us...

http://rapidshare.com/files/261809415/RHO07401.exe.html
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] challenger150:
Problems Immediately

It doesn't work with my ROM which is 1.19.401.0 WWE

can maybe someone look into that? There were no new ROM updates, HTC says that WWE ROM is 1.19.479.0
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] tjobbins:
Is there any info that goes with this?

Where did you find it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] :
htc official site. look ati it, but many are having the same problem challenger150 describet, me too. I agree with the one who said that they must have done it in a hurry, and so f****d up something with the version numbers.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] tjobbins:
Wow, my ROM is 1.14.161.5 - does that mean I have a really old version?

I have a Vodafone version and I got it just one week ago
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ijustdontgiveaf:
i get the error message " This hotfix is not compatible with your device." on 1.19.404.0 (51489) NLD (dutch)

on the HTC homepage i see that this is for 1.19.404.1
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] :
yup, same here.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] LinoX:
Solution for you :)

It is just an exe wrapper around a cab file.

To bypass the exe you just have to extract file's contents with winrar ;)

and then recreate the cab file.

to install you can simply click on the cab you've just created ;)

..and you're done :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] skycamefalling:
You also could simply extract the .exe, then rename the files according to the setup.xml and then copy the files into the \windows folder.

The point is, that these files are officially been made for a ROM-version I don't have on my phone (I admit, it couldn't be found anywhere either) and there have to be a reason for this.

I would not like to have to hardreset my device now if anything messed up.

I think I'll wait for the next information from HTC to come. Maybe they'll come up with a hotfixed hotfix ( :D ) or a new ROM version :cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] challenger150:
First, Linox, you are genius. Followed what you said and got the info that phone is updated.

Second. I have one question which is more rhetorical than realistic. I believe that me, as well as other TP2 owners gave a lot of money for it (expect those who got it in poker game or similar :)). The question is how is it that a phone which costs like 3-4 other (samsung, sony, blablabla phones) gets hotfixes that don't work? Why are Hotfixes necessary? How hard it is to give 100 phones to real HTC users and wait for respond from them? They would definitely see that there are some errors which NEED to be fixed before launching the phone. HTC is not a new company. They exist for at least 8 years now. They should know how phones should be made.

Finally, I got my phone from Frankuft airport a week after official release. The price was around 900 Eur. I believe that you guys paid something similar. More or less. How is it that a phone that should be Iphone killer (and it definetly looks like one) has more problems than that stupid Iphone? Do HTC guys have money to buy other phones and look how some things are made? Why do I have to read so much about entering registry, changing it and modifying it in order to make my phone work normally? I mean, all of you guys who do it and play around with your phones to make ours work THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT A LOT. Maybe HTC should consider paying you to test their phones and make updates.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] skycamefalling:
Would you be so kind to share your selfmade .cab file with us? So not everybody needs to install a .cab-maker and mess with the files for himself :)

According to your "rhetorical" question:

I believe you cannot test everything and everywhere. Even with 100 testers some users will experience other "issues". I state, that the best solution for this is a flexible and fast support -and this is where HTC sucks.

As soon as some users come up with a problem, HTC should work on the solution and come up with a fix as fast as possible.

The SMS-problem is know for long now and 1 1/2 months later they come up with a hotfix which does not work -too little, too late.

Overall, I have to say, the TP2 is a very stable and fast phone, considering the fact that it's Windows Mobile. Just think about the Blackberry Storm my girlfriend owns: 4th firmware update and still buggy as hell. Or think about the Nokia N95: years of experience in building phones and they release such a sleazy and buggy piece of crap for an large amount of money.

The SMS bug of the TP2 is bad but you can still use the windows-messaging so it's half as bad as it could be.

Hehe, think about the bugs that will come up when the first 6.5-ROM is released :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] challenger150:
LOL!!!

I don't even want to imagine that. Comments like "I bricked my TP2" and similar. That will be interesting definitely, and yes, you are right. Maybe 100 users wont solve anything but how is it that other phones don't have such problems or as you mentioned problems are solved but MUCH faster.

And finally, I placed the .rar file on rapidshare. You can download it, place it on phone memory or storage card and run. In second or so you will get info that operation has completed successfully.

I hope I did it right as explained in previous threads.

link is: http://rapidshare.com/files/262084697/RHO07401.cab.html
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] challenger150:
Dont forget to soft reset your phone

By the way, I tested it by sending 3 messages to my own number. The thing works and I didn't received strange information from operator that this phone number doesn't exist.