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[Touch CDMA General] rhorton:
Thanks again for your help, Aven... one last question - Is there any way at this point to remove a few of the 'home screens' (I know that's not what they are called, but can't think of it)?
[Touch CDMA General] MRFERRARI23:
just out of curiosity, would this work on my htc fuze by any chance or is it only for qvga devices??? btw this nothing shy of amazing an what an amazing job!! keep it up!!!! :D
[Touch CDMA General] jamezelle:
its only for qvga well we use the resolution 320x480 in the boot cmd with a screen density of 160, by all means give it a try with your resolution but you would probably be wasting time

EDIT:will only work on MSM7X00 processors X=any digit
[Touch CDMA General] MRFERRARI23:
this is SAD news :o sniff sniff lol.....i mean i dont wanna give it a try if its not going to work right or mess things up ya know?? i wish there was a vga version :o
[Touch CDMA General] Cliophate:
So it works only for qvga?

But what about my HTC Touch HD (blackstone) will it be ported to this device?

At least I hope so...

If it works I'll donate of course
[Touch CDMA General] mrmassador:
will this application work for VGA screen on the HTC Fuze?
[Touch CDMA General] fireshaper:
Please read the WHOLE thread before posting. Also, search is your friend.
[Touch CDMA General] derekwilkinson:
If there was an award for asking stupid questions, you sir would win said award...
[Touch CDMA General] MRFERRARI23:
ok ok ok lol.... so i own an htc tytn 2 thats qvga..... so if i wanted to try this which would be the correct an most stable one to use??? the link on the first page thats dated 8-2-09 right?

p.s- this doesnt over ride my wm operating system totally right? i can revert back to it after im done correct?? also another thing, i read that i should clear out everything off the root of my sd card? but i really cant do that cause theres a lot of stuff on it that has to do with my phones apps/programs working etc and i dont want to lose all that..... so what now? thanx a million!!
[Touch CDMA General] no13od4:
Installing on Sprint Touch

I am trying to install this on a Sprint Touch. Has anyone tried that? In the default.txt, I set the panel to 2 and 3, not sure which one is correct and I changed the resolution to 240x320. I also left the name and password blank. I followed the directions exactly on Zen's google page, but its not booting up for me. What am I doing wrong? Can someone walk me through the whole process??? Thanks.
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
This is straight touchflo. I didn't include the other launcher.
[Touch CDMA General] bornotty:
i searched the thread could'nt get any help.. can anyone please mind telling me as this is for the htc elfin will this work on HTC Touch (elf)
[Touch CDMA General] fr_krg:
hello, are you planning to add a vga version? it looks pretty nice on the video
[Touch CDMA General] radem205:
Absolutely fabulous builds Zenulator!! Great, great job you all doing right now!!! It's pretty nice and runs quite well on the polaris!!

But on my polaris I didn't get data connection to work. All the settings are right and I see the 3G icon on top of the screen. When I disable mobile phone and enable it again I can't get it working.
[Touch CDMA General] sipospeter:
one question: is the empty sd card really a must? i have only one for my polaris that is filled with stuff, doing a backup would take so much time.

one more: is music playback working with this port? if yes, what is the method for this? should i make a folder for the files?

sorry if these questions were asked before in other threads but i just don't have time to read through them, so i say a big thank you in advance for those who answer me.
[Touch CDMA General] tatnai:
you must set resolution to 320 x 480 for zenulator's. read the threads, it's all over the place.
[Touch CDMA General] tatnai:
sd card does not have to be empty. need enough space to extract files on the first boot, like 200mb. i don't use music . . .
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
If the toggle switch doesn't work for you then go to settings then wireless controls and enable mobile network.
[Touch CDMA General] radem205:
Thanks for your anwer! I have tried that too, but the 3G icon is on the top of the screen, but it won't connect. Other builds with modem.apk was always working fine. Is it possible that I install the modem.apk to let data work?
[Touch CDMA General] Calpietzo:
HI, work on trinity?
[Touch CDMA General] sipospeter:
thanks!

offtopic:

i've never tried booting android before on my phone and never would have done it if this ported hero build had not get such population on pocketnow.com where i read about it. however, now as i see that's it's not a big deal, takes only copying some files onto my sd card, i think i'll try first with an ION build as i read that it's much more stable. i'm very excited about this whole thing now. :D
[Touch CDMA General] natefish:
I don't want to sound like a hater, but for god's sake, let us poor qvga users have a little to brag about! :D We don't get really pretty screens, so we have to enjoy our phones in other ways.
[Touch CDMA General] sipospeter:
:D even in the htc mega dumped rom threads some pro/diamond/hd users are asking for a port, no matter that they're having manila3d 2.5. it's something that is hard to understand. :D
[Touch CDMA General] natefish:
Right, I did that and it worked beautifully. But, in your original post, you said

"then use this data.img with mssmison's full hero"

Which one are you talking about? Thanks.
[Touch CDMA General] lazyvegaskid:
funny thing is my friend went from a touch pro back to the touch so he too could have android on sprint haha and to think they were tryin to bash my cell when i was running 6.5winmo... cant wait for Oct 11th!!! the countdown on my home page makes me happier by the second.

All i need now is to figure out how to get sms working on your build, its fast as hell but i need my txt :D
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
You don't need an existing data.img and please don't use data.img from other builds.
[Touch CDMA General] WenWM:
Is it possible to Run this on My Touch pro and if it is, How do i go back to Wm when im done?? Great job, I want to have this on my phone so i can Make my friends that own android phones and my brother that owns the hero mad because how awesome wm is and how it can do anything other phones can :) Long live Windows mobile :)
[Touch CDMA General] natefish:
Okay, cool. Thanks for discovering that for us. Everything is smooth now.
[Touch CDMA General] TheKartus:
Not sure that you can. The builds are all setup for QVGA screens and the Vogue button configuration.
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
Yes it is possible to install modem.apk. I have it installed on my phone and it works but I've also used settings/wireless connections/mobile network and that worked for me. The only trouble I've had is using the toggle switch. I toggled it off but the network was still on.
[Touch CDMA General] lazyvegaskid:
what exactly is your new build?

a full hero build or your fast backinblack build? I dont care either way but wanna kno what im switching to as im gonna try it out on my lunch
[Touch CDMA General] KERKEDAGAIN:
backinblack is the latest n greatest.

Zen..another more SPECIFIC (for those just posting "issues" and hoping we can read your mind :eek:;) heh) text message issue is not the sending of 'em but receiving. I'll try sending them to myself..having a coworker send me one..my wife etc.

The results are pretty sporadic, like i'll get the message i sent myself but not my coworkers or wife's (who, by the way, are both on sprint)..but then i got one sent by a different coworker who's with ATT. Dunno if the carrier has any relation to the problem but figured i'd mention. Any idea what may be causing this/anyone else noticing the same?

*request for next build* i noticed that audio in is working..but there's no voice recognition stuff included (i.e. voice dial/search) is that a possibility yet?
[Touch CDMA General] soccerman821:
sorry this post isnt very productive but i thought u should know that u are mentioned on http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009...orted-to-windows-mobile-dont-get-too-excited/

by the way i love ur work, great job
[Touch CDMA General] TheKartus:
Oh damn, I was just about to post that..
[Touch CDMA General] myshinynewtouch:
Dr. Z - thank you coming back and supporting HERO builds.. I am doing now what some other poster has suggested, load up Hero blackinblack, and have two themes, one with all sense UI stuff, other basic vanilla android.. senseUI is fast, but one thing i noticed was it lags when multi-tasking, especially if there are some background transactions going on or if i am trying to browse and listen to songs at the same time.. i am sure, once we load it to ROM, that will be blazing fast..

my second theme is plain android and it works soooper fast when multi-tasking. and switching between themes is soo easy as hero already provides the option to switch themes under personalize.

quick question though - the swap file i thought used to be around 64Mb to start with, now it has shrunk to 32Mb, is the swap file restricted by something.. isn't bigger better :D

also, is the sms message sent working out with the initid and rootfs.. can anyone pls verify on a hero build....
[Touch CDMA General] KERKEDAGAIN:
Yup..sending is no problem for me. I'm having more of a receiving problem..
[Touch CDMA General] myshinynewtouch:
i just verified receiving sms, got it fine, no problems at all, message even shows up nicely on the locked screen :D

another question, if i use adb to transfer the rootfs file to sdcard, do i need to restart android for it to be picked up.. (linux i thought was cool enough to do things on the fly :d, unlike windows which needs a restart)
[Touch CDMA General] lazyvegaskid:
so could trying a diff initrd solve my receiving txt problems? how did you boot up hero without rootfs? everytime I tried i needed to reboot since it would get stuck at boot saying rootf couldnt be found
[Touch CDMA General] KERKEDAGAIN:
I'm not booting without rootfs..
[Touch CDMA General] myshinynewtouch:
does anyone face the problem of a background data usage app where it says updating socialnetwork -- something something... i dont have a twitter/facebook account and i didn't sign into one or even do anything to access one.. how can i stop this background app from running ??

i dont know why but i think it takes up a lot of memory and i dont even have it as a sync app... is there anyway we can control on a process level all the apps that can sync and not sync..
[Touch CDMA General] adeyo:
exchange not working

is anyone else having errors while trying to connect to microsoft exchange? (i have it working on mssmison's herolite, and use the exact same settings so i know my server/domain/password etc are right). i am using latest posted zenulator's build and kernal from his google code site...also, i have data working (market/internet etc)...what could it be??

"Error

Failed to connect to the Exchange server. Please check Exchange server settings."
[Touch CDMA General] Septavius:
I can confirm getting the same error message as you when trying to connect to an exchange server with the latest BackInBlack build (data is working with everything else). As you stated, the same exchange server settings work without a problem on mssmisom's HeroLite build.
[Touch CDMA General] KERKEDAGAIN:
Dont get me wrong..I do get SOME texts..it's as if my phone just picks n chooses which ones it wants to receive. Would you say that you're getting ALL your messages?
[Touch CDMA General] s0v3r1gn:
SO i noticed that this build creates a file called swapfile that is around 32MB. I also noticed under the deprecated files that there is a file called swap96.fil that is a 96MB swap file. Is it possible for me to use the 96MB swap file by just replacing swapfile with the swap96.fil by just renaming the swap96.fil to swapfile?
[Touch CDMA General] MRFERRARI23:
I wanted to know, would this work on my HTC TYTN 2 that's QVGA?? I wanted to try it out an see what its like etc so if someone can let me know id appreciate it thank's :D
[Touch CDMA General] derekwilkinson:
I hate questions like this... why don't you try it and find out???
[Touch CDMA General] tatnai:
what this was in relation to was if you wanted to use mssmison hero build, and could not get market or albums to work, use the data.img created by zenulators along with mssmison's other files, and his hero full will work appropriately.
[Touch CDMA General] MRFERRARI23:
Listen here BUDDY!!! First of all lose the attitude an if you dont like questions like mine then disappear from XDA!!! It wasn't meant for you to answer unless you had a legit answer which you didn't, you just had to be all rude an state a wasteful response!!! So chill with your cranky ass and be helpful and if you can't be then dont say anything at all!!!

This port was made for the Vogue which is QVGA, and since I dont have the Vogue and I have the TYTN 2 which is QVGA I wanted to know if it would work or not before I go through all the trouble for no reason!

SO BE EASY YA HEARD?

Sorry guys but some people need to be put in there place, rudeness is unacceptable!
[Touch CDMA General] natefish:
That's cool they posted that. Not many people here get recognition. I remember when engadget mentioned NFSFAN.

As for the video...WTF?!?! So, basically, I can just do a video tutorial of some other hacker's work and get it posted somewhere and probably make a few bucks off of Google Adsense for doing it? WTF?

Anyway, at least someone got to show off Zen's great work.

Also, it's obvious that the BGR staff doesn't use WinMo if they didn't recognize the S2U2 unlocker.
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
Actually you can't. Swap gets created at boot so the 96mb one will get replaced by the 32mb one
[Touch CDMA General] grabaclue:
Sprint Touch?

Has anyone gotten this to work on a Sprint Touch? I've tried the various flavors of default.txt, but my phone just freezes on a white blank screen every time. I'm no expert with this stuff and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.

Any help would be very much appreciated!
[Touch CDMA General] rodmann98:
Sprint touch

Yeah. I have a Sprint touch and it does work. You have to change the setting in default text for lcd panel to three. That is the setting for the Sprint vogue.
[Touch CDMA General] thoughtlesskyle:
sprint vogue panel types vary alot mine is panel type 0

and one of the people who i work with has a 3

so just keep trying
[Touch CDMA General] jetyang2009:
I got it working on my Sprint Touch. Make sure that you have the following settings:

mddi.width=320 mddi.height=480 lcd.density=160

board-htcvogue.panel_type=3

Try running it again with these settings and see if it work. If you're still having problems, format your SD Card (back up all your files), and extract the HERO zip to the SD Card and run it again. Make sure that there's no other files on the SD Card beside the files needed to run HERO.

Good Luck!
[Touch CDMA General] fireshaper:
Maker of the video here, first of all my site is for reviews not tutorials. The video was not a tutorial, I was just showing the build. (If you actually visit my blog you will see that I have been posting about Android for Vogue for a while and all credit is given to the developers at each opportunity).

You will also notice on my site I do not have any Google Adsense ads. I blog for the fun of it, not to make a profit, and all expenses come out of my pocket. Perhaps in the future I will put up Google Adsense banners but right now I'm lucky enough that I don't have to.

Any what does it matter if I did make a few bucks off of a video review I did? At least I put the effort into making the video. You could have done the same if you wanted.
[Touch CDMA General] grabaclue:
Sort of working on Sprint Touch now

Thanks everyone, for your replies!

I've got it working now, more or less. I had to use the "3" option. It boots up and I can play around a bit, but then it tends to freeze or reboot after a few seconds. And I thought I was getting the Hero interface, but somehow I've got the generic Android one. Not sure where I messed up there...

I guess I'll keep on playing with it! :)
[Touch CDMA General] craig0r:
I'm pretty sure type 0 means "auto detect" which doesn't actually work, and therefore you don't have proper power management (aka the phone doesn't sleep, the backlight just turns off.)

You're sure none of 1, 2 or 3 work? Cuz that kinda sucks. I'd send a message to dzo if that's the case.

I could be wrong though. It's been known to happen... on occasion.
[Touch CDMA General] grabaclue:
3 ended up working for me. And I figured out why I didn't have Hero -- I didn't download that build. So I did, and now the phone gets stuck in an endless cycle of the Hero and HTC splash screens. Maybe I'll try HeroLite.
[Touch CDMA General] KERKEDAGAIN:
No..no need..make sure your mddi is 320x480
[Touch CDMA General] fireshaper:
And add lcd.density=160 after the mddi parameters if it's not already there.
[Touch CDMA General] KERKEDAGAIN:
Apparently even that is not a necessity to get it working because the default.txt in zenulators zip on the first post doesn't have that..and i'm running it with no modifications but the panel type.

From what i understand that option is only needed when a person would like to change the density on other 1.5/cupcake builds. Seeing as to how these Hero builds ONLY permits 160, there should be no need to include that in the parameters as that is the default setting for our builds.
[Touch CDMA General] fireshaper:
Ah, must have been mssmison's that required that.
[Touch CDMA General] s0v3r1gn:
Damn, ok thanks. Would there be the possibility of changing the swap size? I've got a 4gb card that's practically empty so I would love to be able to give 128 or even 256 MB of swap space to help speed things up a bit more. =P

Id also like to say that I hope you keep up development on the Hero build zen. Since mssmision has decided to stay away from the hero builds and stick with themed Ion builds. His themed builds are great, but Im already in love with the Facebook sync built into Hero.
[Touch CDMA General] hexto:
I really think this build has great potential but right now it just runs way too slow to use for more than recreational purposes. Even the contacts take 30 seconds or more to come up and forget scrolling through them. I love the fact that it has the HTC widgets and customizations but I am now afraid that the Vogue will never be able to run Dream or Hero builds smoothly.

I'm hoping its just something I did cause it started out usable then it froze and its been super slow since. Any thoughts?
[Touch CDMA General] zero0007:
maybe a silly question but, is there any chance to get this working on Blackstone..?
[Touch CDMA General] KERKEDAGAIN:
I've been running this build pretty much non-stop since its conception and have not experienced a slow down..i currently have the clock, messages, weather, and another widget for a music program..if things started out well for you, I'd suggest you tryn go back n see if its one of the programs you've installed.

Also..just to make sure..you got rid of ALL Android related files before you started this build, correct?
[Touch CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
same issues i had yesterday.
[Touch CDMA General] omgwtfbbqkthxbai:
do both of you have class 6 cards?
[Touch CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
no idea i know its a 8gb kingston micosd. every other android build works fine though.
[Touch CDMA General] briggs81:
It's running wicked on my Polaris. Things do take a tad longer, but its nothing even close to how slow it use to be, this is actually usable.
[Touch CDMA General] nuttsak:
I've had issues where it runs almost unusable. The problem is changing out system.img file and using the same data file. Newly installed apps would force close (only some). I would suggest deleting the data file before booting into a new system.img. Once I deleted the data file and booted into android, ran smooth again and installed the apps that were force closing would work fine.

I would also imagine using a data file from different builds... ie the themed build vs the actual hero build would be incompatible. Can someone verify?
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
Yes I actually state this in many places. It's even in bold i believe. Do not use a old data.img.
[Touch CDMA General] tatnai:
lololololol - sorry, couldn't help myself. once again, almost all questions have been asked before, search and read. lol
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
Video

Somebody did a video of the current build. Here is a link. http://thismobilelife.com/?p=165
[Touch CDMA General] neomagic:
Can't run at Touch Pro

As the default setting is for vogue-hero and the instruction is said Edit your default.txt to work with your vogue keeping the lcd density at 160 and the resolution at 320x480

I want use the image in my Touch Pro , and I modify the resolution as 480*640 ,it can't work. So I want to know if this version image of vogue-hero can be work in Touch Pro!?
[Touch CDMA General] KERKEDAGAIN:
Owww...lookin sooo good and he didn't even have animations enabled!! Hey Z, did you catch my post about voice recognitionability?
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
No sorry I didn't catch it.
[Touch CDMA General] KERKEDAGAIN:
A lot can be gained by just trying it out..the cool thing about the port, at this state, is that if it doesn't work you just reset and your phone/WinMo should still be in perfect tact (of course I'm not to be quoted, heh)

I Googled it n found this website that has a port already in progress for the Touch Pro, check it out n see if you can get it going..if so try mixing n matching files n see if it works..

Site: http://www.connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=58&task=view.download&cid=27
[Touch CDMA General] KERKEDAGAIN:
It's cool..I was wondering if all the voice recognition, voice search/dialer is a possibility at all w/ the Hero stuff at this early point in development..
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
It could be. Like in the vilords builds?
[Touch CDMA General] KERKEDAGAIN:
Yeh! Just like in his..i know the audio in is working..just no voice search stuff
[Touch CDMA General] grabaclue:
I've done that, but still stuck on the splash screens.

Here's what I've done:

I copied over all of the Android files from the download page, then I replaced the system and the initrd files from the Hero ZIP file.

Am I missing a step? I've made sure that my default.txt specifies the correct mddi parameters and panel=3. I have not made any other edits to the default file as I have no idea what the correct PPP username and password should be for Sprint. But I'll cross that bridge when I get to it. Right now I'd just like to get it booting up.
[Touch CDMA General] KERKEDAGAIN:
Hero.zip? Just making sure..you're using the files from this link, correct?

http://vogue-hero.googlecode.com/files/Hero-8-2-09.zip
[Touch CDMA General] grabaclue:
Actually, no, those files are different. I'll give them a try!
[Touch CDMA General] thoughtlesskyle:
you know i dont think i ever tried 3, i picked 0 when they first started the port because it was the only way i could get it to boot, i dont think anyone knew 3 would work at that point, i will give it a go

thanks for the help

this is actually written in the default.txt i will try 3 and see how my battery life is

# Default is 3, use 0 for best power savings

# board-htcvogue.panel_type - Panel type used to power the panel off and on

i cant say i have had any big problems with the battery life, its not as good as it is in windows mobile but i figured running an operating system completely off a memory card is bound to do that

update: 3 works thanks for filling me in on that
[Touch CDMA General] no13od4:
HELP!

Do I need to change the file name "system-8-02-09.img" to "system.img" from the Hero-8-2-09 zip file??? Thanks!
[Touch CDMA General] thoughtlesskyle:
yep, same with anything else that has a date in the file name

also if you change system.img's after already using one delete the data.img too it will run smoother
[Touch CDMA General] hsirk:
Hi,

Any one pls let me know can i port this on artemis or it will work

only in vogue..