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[Touch 3G General] Nirak:
The Jade has TouchFlo 2D (as in 2 dimensional) also known as Manila 2D, TF2D or M2D.

Themes and skins are, afaik, the same, and the person stating that you have to have at least version 20 means version 2.0 actually.

'Manila' btw is HTC's codename for the Touchflo interface

Touchflo 3D (also known as Manila 3D, TF3D of M3D) is a different story.

Whether a HTC phone has TouchFlo 2D or 3D depends on the capacity and resolution of the screen. The Jade has a QVGA screen (quarter VGA aka 240 x 320 pixels) and can't handle the TF3D animations and touch posibilities.

A phone with a VGA screen (640 x 480 pixels), like the Diamond, usually has Touhflo 3D.

Fellow forumers, plz correct me if i'm wrong....but this is what i know.

Hope i helped you out a bit
[Touch 3G General] jfranek:
:)

Thank you Nirak for help. So I have TouchFLO 2D v.3.

If have a few more questions for those who modified their Touchflo -

If I want to change my Touchflo, I understand I have two choices -

Uninstall it (don't know how) and find and install a new one; or

modify the existing one with registry edits and/or Manila Customiser.

This Customiser - is it basically a new additional program that runs alongside the existing TouchFLO, or is it something like a registry editor that only modifies the existing TouchFLO and can be later uninstalled?

Thanks

Joe
[Touch 3G General] azahidi:
If you want to change (I assume modify/customise) you can do many things including changing the registry, yes and also change the graphics, etc.

AFAIK, briefly the customiser (M2DC) does not run alongside. It's just a program that does (simplify) the registry editing and a few *.xml files (for customisation) for those who do not wish to dwell into. yes M2DC can be uninstalled (after using) and TF2D runs fine.

I am not sure how to uninstall TF2D but you can always deactivate if you do not wish to use it and use other today themes or plugins, etc.
[Touch 3G General] Nirak:
uninstalling TF2D that is included (cooked) in your ROM is not possible, but as Azahidi says, you can deactivate it and use the standard Windows interface, or any other shell you prefer, like SPB Mobile Shell, and there are others.

Basically TF2D is also just a shell round your Windows Mobile System, that's suppossed to make it easier to use (not always is...) and more 'eye candier' .

The M2DCustomizer is a easy to use utility to modify the settings of TF2D and use other skins, look over here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=427392

and here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=425974 (older skins)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=451702

Since i'm not that much of a techi i like using M2D Customizer, but just like Azahidi says, these modifyings can also be done by editing the registry and/or .xml files

To give you an idea, here is a screenshot of my Jade's homepage with basically the standard TF2D, modified with another skin:
[Touch 3G General] jfranek:
Thanks azahidi and Nirak.

I've been reading all those posts several times, it is starting to make some sense.

Looking at the M2D Customizer - I believe it will back up the existing factory Touchflo and I can restore it if the mods did not work or I did not like them. Is this correct?

Apart from other mods, I would like to change the email widget to a 'Tasks' widget. I would like to see a different icon instead of the envelope and instead of the sheet of paper sticking out of the envelope I would like to see a list of tasks etc.

I don't think that the Manila Customiser can do that. Is that correct?

And I don't think I could achieve this by getting a new skin, could I ?

Maybe there is a program somewhere to design a complete shell from scratch on desktop PC??

Joe
[Touch 3G General] MvBoe:
I think you should test Spb-Mobile Shell 3. It is very good.

14 days-trial and information here:

http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/mobileshell/
[Touch 3G General] jfranek:
Thanks, MvBoe, I think I will try it.

Joe
[Touch 3G General] Nirak:
Yep, totally, just remember first thing to do is making a back up of your original theme, M2D Customizer has a tab for it ('restore')

Correct again

I really have no clue if sucha program exists.
[Touch 3G General] Matio:
stupid question

Hello,

I have got pure WM6.5 on my device without any graphic enviroment like Touch 2D or something. Is it possible to install only this enviroment (Touch 2D - is it Manila 2D?) ? And how?

Sorry for the noob quiestion...
[Touch 3G General] azahidi:
You can install anything on your device, depending on the purpose and your liking, and how you want to customise your today screen. Yes you can install Manilla2D (TF2D). Just search xda, get (download) the .cab file to your PC, copy to your device (or download straight to your device) and then run it.
[Touch 3G General] Matio:
Many thanks for your answer azahidi.

I tried to install M2D as you told me. I folowed the guide witch is here. So that I have installed HTC Home v 2.1. and after that [11.3.08-Update 20] M2D Build 1.0.18203328 - Jade (TOUCH 3G Version). Restarted device, but nothing happened. When I turn my Home screen as TouchFLO, on my screen appeares text: "Tap here to launch TouchFLO" and when I tap there, the whole device becomes to be totally frozen.

Can anyone help?
[Touch 3G General] DanRo80:
I greatly agree. SPB Shell is 10 times better and user friendlier then TF2D. I had TF2D for about a week and tried out SPB Shell 3.5 and I have never gone back. I am one happy customer.
[General Topics] HansZimmer:
I am just wondering what will be happen to HTC when windows mobile 7 is out ? Right now, we have the great Manila, which is in my opinion much more important for my daily use than the underlaying mobile OS. So I don´t care about windows mobile 6.1 or 6.5 it is not important for me, I need just ANY windows to use all my windows mobile tools. But everey new version of manila is the great new development at the moment: New tools, new usage, new design ! I could say for years with 6.1 when htc would update manila fast and steady. I have no problem to have nearly all tools twice, one from windows mobile and one from htc, for example calculator, contacts, calendar...

But what happens when v7 will arrive and Microsoft did everything new and hopefully better ?

First: If the ned design and UI is really great, we don´t need manila anymore. I don´t belive this but maybe it will happen and there is a problem for htc, because nobody wants manila and they are back thrown to just a hardware manufacture.

Second: Windows 7 UI is not so good. In this case we need manila, but we are still in the same situation than today: Everything is double on the device, one time from MS and one time from htc, which is not the best solution in terms of hardware resources, speed and funcionality compared to other mobile phones.

What do you think about this future ?

hans
[General Topics] 8525Smart:
Okay....

Just so I understand this clearly, your primary worry is regarding Manila's compatibility with Windows Mobile 7.

First: Yes, it's true that if the new Windows Mobile 7 is great, then Manila will be less needed, but I find that doubtful. Unless Microsoft copies Manila directly, then there will still be those who needs HTC's unique interface for whatever reason.

Also, I'm not sure if you realize this, but developing Manila actually cost HTC money. Companies often develop an interface for WinMo (Manila, Touchwiz, etc) because it is to hide the ugly original interface and to improve productivity. If they no longer have to do this, it would actually save them money. Hardware is, in fact, HTC's primary method of making money (after all, they don't sell Manila; it comes free).

Second: Yes, if WinMo 7's interface is not good, then more resources will be needed for the OS and the secondary interface, but the performance drop may not be as great as you think. One of the things about Windows Mobile 7 is that it is supposed to better utilize modern hardware, which will make it far more efficient. The increased resources needed will probably be more than offset by WM7's increased efficiency.

Secondly, if, for some strange reason, the combination of WinMo 7 and Manila ends up being too resource heavy, I really don't see this being a huge issue as hardware will inevitably be improved to handle any extra needed resources. Or XDA will end up taking care of any slack HTC has (and if the past few years have been any indication, there will be plenty of slack on HTC's side).

After all, one must remember that the WM6.1 stock ROM with HTC Manila is not exactly the fastest thing in the world.
[General Topics] typo:
Perhaps this is a little too much optimism, but I don't think we need to worry about WM7's interface. MS have been making a lot of great interfaces lately -- Win7, the Xbox 360, and the Zune all have extremely nice interfaces. WM7 is a big deal to MS, and I'm sure they're giving a lot of resources to developing a good UI. WM6.5 may seem like a disappointment, but all indications seem to be that 6.5 was purely a low-priority patch job.

As has been said, HTC will probably be BETTER off if they DON'T have to reskin the OS. Maybe instead they can spend those development resources on useful add-on tools instead of basic functionality.

And if the core WM7 UI is lame and HTC DOES feel the need to step up, I bet it'll be possible. MS knows that customization is practically the one thing they really still have over the competition, and I doubt they'll squash that.
[General Topics] mysterd:
What makes me optimistic is also that WinMo 6.5's titanium does not look so bad to me, as well as the new locking system...

Even if it does not provide as many functionnalities as a good old manila, it's still some improvement over the classic naked WinMo look and feel. What do you think ?
[General Questions and Answers] abarnabe:
I accidentally deleted the driver's folder in the registry.

now I can't access the sd card and activesync doesn't connect anymore.

my device is a PNA called axxion gps 374 with wince 4.2.

I still see the desktop and the resident flash, I can issue commands from the prompt.

Is there a way to re-enable sd and usb drivers or access the resident flash?

thanks in advance
[General Questions and Answers] abarnabe:
?

really nobody?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] thedeathblow:
can anyone provide me the iGo8 and its maps for USA? or even TomTom7 " 7.915..." which i have but no USA maps

MOD EDIT: I am happy to buy these, if someone provides a link

and also i checked TT7 on their website and i haven't see htc touch hd on the list but i saw couple using it on their HD ,,, any idea?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] fards:
posting requests for warez is NOT permitted on this site.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Fallen Spartan:
Warez is not premitted

EDIT

I see Dave beat me to it!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] liamhere:
you beat me both...but i closed it :rolleyes:
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] veritasaequita:
ive done some googlin with no results, i was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction for information on if it would be possible to install android on a samsung eternity, or if it would even be possibe, because it actually has potential to be a cool phone. plus its just an extra phone i have laying around, **** even any ideas would be great, thanx for any help in advance, veritasaequita.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NeoBlade:
Not sure actually, I had a quick look around but couldn't find anything concise. It would all depend if the device could be rooted and hacked so a different build could be flashed to it.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] veritasaequita:
i can get to the root menu with tk file explorer if thats worth anything.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vagamente:
Hi all

Is there a way to install the smart HTC dialer? I mean the one that if you tap "7663" it shows up your contact labelled "home"...

I'd like to have it in the superspeedy JACKxROM... in this way it would be perfect...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vr24:
No, because it requires the HTC framework.

If you are looking for a fast ROM that has the HTC Dialer- all the Rogers ROM's would work for you.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fico2:
Hello everyone, I was wondering, can someone tell me how to fix the display problem in wm6.5 with the stock taskbar where the sound icon is way too much moved to the left near the signal bars, in this way the last bar is cut by half. I hope someone understood my explanation any may help me :) Thanks in advance
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] timebandi:
Hi

My phone takes like 3 minutes to be able to be used when starting it.

I know and think there are some autostart applications during bootup.

Where can I modify the startup applications?

I already checked Windows\Autostart but I can't find the applications I know should be there.

TomTom has something at bootup but there's nothing in Windows\Autostart

Is there any registry items I can check?

//Kensy
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Rumball:
Windows\Startup
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] timebandi:
That folder is empty... :(

No registry entries?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] ArtieQ:
Ofcourse it takes some time to load everything (TF3D for example) before you can start use the phone without serious lag. It's not a computer with 3ghz processor you know. Try install Advanced Taskmanager and kill some processes.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] timebandi:
Ofcourse i'm aware of that. But TomTom loads at startup and has an icon just under the startmenu. Things like that I want to remove from startup...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] ANULADOO:
Try sk tools

it has an option for startup programs...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] robalexclark:
Hi, All my music is in wma format. I copied about 5 albums to my g1 last night but only one of them has been found (in albums). The info about wma format on android is a bit ambiguous and I don't really understand why one album has been found (which is wma format like all the others).

Could someone please clarify the situation. Is there any way to get all the wma tracks to be recognised?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NeoBlade:
Here are the available formats: MP3, M4A (iTunes application AAC, DRM-free), AMR, WMA(8), MIDI, WAV, OGG Vorbis.

Also seems that you can listen to WMA(8) but you can't set them as notifications/ringtones... Was it converted as WMA8?

I'm personally not a massive fan of WMA, but why not convert the originals into .ogg instead? dbpoweramp music converter does it very well.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] supremeteam256:
I had this issue the other day but all mine are .mp3's. What I had to do was go to settings > applications > manage applications and go to your music app and clear the data. Did that then it displayed everything again.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] jonas9000:
Software or mod for turning off the upper list in the display when answer or calling on the phone. Every time i press my ear against the phone an annoying "message" menu appears, and i must close it after answer/talking. Anyone ?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] MasK:
Message menu?

Or are U referring to the notifications list? Coz that's what I get most of the time..
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] tomtommy306:
Same here....

Can't find anything at the moment.

I just hit the power button to turn off the screen.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] jonas9000:
Turn phone on, press black "windows" bar at top, from center and to left. Then you got a "message" meny.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] anarchyuk:
i installed that touch incall screen tweak app to turn the screen off when i put it to my ear but it isnt quick enough and still brings up the notification menu, may i suggest surgery and getting the top of you ear cut off? :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] jonas9000:
Or increase the speed of tweak !!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] Connor.McLeod:
or strap your D2 to a weight to slow you (arm) down a bit
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] jonas9000:
Now we have to put this thread in Topaz accessories :-)) !
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] muccamucca:
hi all,

I've a problem with my touch pro (original italian rom): the messaging application don't start anymore.

I've tried to start from the 2 icons on TF3D (sms and email) ... nothing (it only restarts the TF3D.

The same if I start the application from "programs".

I think the application files are corrupted.

I'm on holiday and I don't want to hard reset the device for the moment.

Someone can help me giving me support, ideas or the messaging application file from an original italian rom (1.90.408.1 ITA)?

Overwiting file it's a my opinion ... someone can help me to understand ?

Further info:

- I don't have installed anything recently;

- I've tried to install resco contact ... nothing;

- I can't receive messages/email.

Please help me!!

Thanks in advance
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] muccamucca:
anyone can help me?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] pilgrim011:
Delete all messages (through File Explorer), soft reset and try again. I assume that you probably have too many saved messages.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] muccamucca:
it sounds interesting ...

2 questions for you:

- emails only or both emails and sms?

- where I can find this files to delete ?

many thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hefman:
Probably should have been posted in the Raphael Software forum.

That said, it's probably a corrupt database, as a previous poster implies.

However, it could also be a corrupted tmail.exe. This can be solved by deleting the tmail.exe file (using TotalCommander) in Windows and doing a soft reset, which will restore the original file from ROM. I had to do that a while back.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] pilgrim011:
I think it's better that you delete them all. Files are usually in Windows/Messaging. Of course, you can do what hefman suggested.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] muccamucca:
I've tried deleting messages .. nothing happens (so hefman was right ... also the db is corrupted).

I've tried to delete tmail.exe as hefman said... but with Resco file explorer isn't possible (rom file). I've tried with total commander ... but I can't see my device.

I've to admit it: I'm unlucky at 40% and unable at 60%

Other sw to delete a rom file ?

Thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] PooleyUK:
Hello,

Not sure if this has been addressed anywhere else but I couldn't find it so thought I would pop something here myself and hope I don't get told off ;-)

I'm using Dutty's windows 6.5 R8 ROM and found that when I added certain cities into the world clock, the time was wrong in them. For me it was when I added San Antonio TX in there. I have relatives living there and like to know the time when I call then, anyway, I digress.

The world clock showed the time as being 11 hours behind GMT, which is incorrect as it is only 6. SO I followed the following link....

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3507071&postcount=2

While poking around in my 2330fc3c_manila file I noticed that a few of the Texas cities had different msid values.

San Antonio was set to 0. I changed this to 20 to match some of the other Texas cities that showed the correct time on my HD.

After replacing the manilla file using Resco File Explorer, the time for San Antonio was correct!!!!

Sooooooooooo anyone who has the wrong time for different cities in the world clock can simply follow these steps to change the msid for the city they wish to add to the world clock.

Sorry if my explanation is naff, but I will try to answer any questions if anything is unclear.

I'll pop a screenshot to show what I changed.

Before....

After

Newest CAB file for installation will be attached to this post.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sandymac:
Various posts throughout the different ROMs on this problem but your use of SQLite Administrator and screenshots is probably the simplest and best way to let everyone know how to fix the problem.

By the way, you can also add other cities not listed in the database using the same tool.

:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] PooleyUK:
Hi Sandy,

I've been looking for a fix for this for a while, but mostly the posts seem to address the daylight saving problem and not the timezone problem.

I stumbled on it by finding the link to add the cities to the manila file, and had a play about :-)

I don't know if there is some reference site somewhere which gives the different msid's for the different cities, but I would suggest that if anyone wants to fix a city for their own use, they simply copy the msid of a city in the same state or country that does have the correct time in the world clock.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
MOD EDIT

I changed title to include [SOLVED]

Ta

Rick
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] PooleyUK:
Thanks Fallen, I was so excited about starting my very own thread I forgot, my bad :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] maesus:
hmm... wouldn't anyone explore the older manila "world cities" file (that has correct timezone) and port it to replace the newer one?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] PooleyUK:
Hi Maesus,

I was thinking if I get time later or tomorrow, I will go through the whole Manila file and put them right then make it available for people to download, but I can't gurantee when I will get time to do it.Hence the post if people want to fix their own for the cities they wish to add to the world clock.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tacginc:
PooleyUK,

Brillant by friend:D. Now to patch all 50 US States, or according to our new idiot of Pres (Obama) 57 states plus Alaska and Hawaii.:eek::confused:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] PooleyUK:
Hey Tacginc,

I've been going through fixing some of them, but there are loads set to 0

I find the filter is helping, if you select the "Country" field on the left in the list...

...then enter United States in the Filter at the top, you will be able to hit all the US states (however many there are) all together. :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tacginc:
Okay, I have updated the all the World Time Zones. I had to take some liberties with some cities/countries, but they all should be correct now. If not let me know and I'll fix them.

The CAB file is for those that want to patch and/or don't have a file utility to copy & paste into the WINDOWS folder.

The ZIP is for those with a utility to over lay copy & paste files in Windows.

UPDATED FOR POST 20

UPDATED FOR PORTUGAL CITIES - 2009-09-14
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tacginc:
PooleyUK,

I don't know if you can down load my CAB and merge with yours. I assume you are, or are better at, updating UK/Europe TZs. I'm also assuming the UK, in your name, stands for the United Kingdom and that is where you reside.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mertali:
Is it possible to copy/paste ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tacginc:
You mean file copy and paste? Yes. But, you have to use Roesco File Explorer. As the files are protected by windows. Roesco has more functionality than the base MS WM file explorer and allows the simple copy and paste.

My CAB (USA only) was for those that don't have or don't want to pay for Roesco.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] d.cortez:
cab files didn't work...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tacginc:
Works fine for me. Check http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4272014&postcount=10 again. I have updated all World Time Zones and they should be good to go.

There were a couple USA ones that didn't update when I first did it, but when I did the World update I caught them and they are fixed now too.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] PooleyUK:
Hi Tacginc,

Nice one, thanks for the CAB file, makes it a lot easier.

Yep, I am in England, but PooleyENG doesn't sound so good ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henrik.dk:
For touch HD, for the timezone, how could I add copenhagen?

the only choice right now is Paris.