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[Hero, G2 Touch General] oruam57:
You shalt do something not because is smart but because the iPhone already did it.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] rhedgehog:
i understand where you're coming from, but i work with guys that between us have over 30 windows mobile phones and about half a dozen of using android. Not one of them bothers with the screen protectors.

strange really, I've never used on myself, but i do know people who religiously put it on their phones straight out of the box, before they've even put the battery in!

i suppose that there will be plenty of people who get this phone just cos it's a touch screen, and don't even know about screen protectors, cos they've come over from dumb phones.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] foxmeister:
I used to use screen protectors, but never bothered with my G1 and haven't had an issue despite not keeping the phone in any sort of case. I think modern screens are probably that much better now at resisting scratches.

Regards,

Dave
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Raspster:
The coating on the phone makes it almost impossable to have a screen protector. Keeps coming off too easy because the coating is rejecting it. I wonder if the hero is a glass screen or not?? Sure does feel like glass and as far as I know, the only other phone with the coating in the iphone and that screen is glass.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] liamhere:
screen protector

i have ordered a real one from htc....hope to get it monday

and yes the screen looks and feels like glass to me
[Hero, G2 Touch General] christonge:
No problem so far with the original screen protector which I received with my Hero from Handtec. Goes on easy and so far so good ;)

I've always used a screen protector on all my previous devices as I don't really like cases. I would definitely recommend using one.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] DeadManDan:
Screen protectors

http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...reen-Protector-SP-P260-Twin-Pack/Product.html

Was thinking of ordering this when it comes back in stock. I used to use protectors on previous winmo phones, normally stock ones that came with the phones, but this screen looks more resistive to scratches than previous flexi screens. Might think about a case instead but this just adds bulk to the phone.....

As always too many decisions !!! :confused:
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alritewhadeva:
You could flash a JF ROM those are about the cleanest. It should clean out your entire /system partition.
[General Topics] nihondzin:
Hi all!

I'm new here , i can't choose between HD and D2 . each one better ?

each one faster and more stable?

Thanks and sorry for my english .
[General Topics] D'rath:
D2 is newer with 3.6" screen and no 3.5 jack out (and official WM6.5 upgrade), HD is older 3.8" Display and 3.5 jack (WM6.5 only with excellent Chefs ^^ ).

I have HD and love it: maybe without HD I would buy a D2 because newer.

D'rath
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] HtcDia:
Hi ya all,

i have not been here for a long time,see my sig, im still using the same phone

with the same software and have no problems at all.

however i thinks its time to upgrade. so here comes the most stupidist

question ever ask on this forum because it should be so obvious to me.

is it worth upgrading to the "Rhodium" or can you suggest another htc

that can or nearly match it ?

since the last time i was here this forum has exploded so i must say.

Thanks for all the time and effort that you guys have put into this website

to make it what it is today..... nothing short of GREAT.

thank you

HD
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] elmalote:
Could someone please post the default TD2 wallpaper in 480 x 800 format?

Installed a new ROM and missing it, searched everywhere for it :o

Thanx :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] the.mont:
there you go
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] elmalote:
Thank you!! :d:d:d;)
[General Topics] xhiloh:
Hi, all.

I'd like to introduce Dorothy, an Internet Browser for Windows Mobile 6/6.1.

In fact, I'm one of the developers of this browser.

It's a stand-alone, webkit-based browser.

We tested it on HTC HD/Diamond, Sony Ericsson X1i, and Samsung Omnia.

We started the closed beta program a few weeks ago.

You can join at http://www.dorothybrowser.com .

I hope you enjoy the Internet browsing with Dorothy.

We welcome any feedback or suggestion.

All the bests,

Daniel W. Kim.
[General Topics] josefcrist:
i am only downloading because i really like the name.
[General Topics] Soaa-:
They call it a 'service,' so perhaps they use their servers to transcode websites before sending them to the phone? If so, it's in the same vein as Opera Mini, Opera Turbo and Bolt Browser.

I hope it's not the case.
[General Topics] liamhere:
i too love the name

shame i have just move to android :(
[General Topics] xhiloh:
It does not use any proxy server. It's stand alone.
[General Topics] Soaa-:
Oh sweet! I can't wait to test it then. If it really is three times faster than Opera, this could be one killer browser.

I already registered, har har. :3

Update: got the download link! I'm excited.
[General Topics] carnero:
Interesting. Only basics, but fast. I miss only text wrapping (now it's hard to read anything) and tabbed brwosing. I like rendering - it's fast on start, it's fast when scolling, it's fast when exitting. I can't save my homepage in settings.
[General Topics] Soaa-:
Interesting yeah. Not quite the three times faster than Opera Mobile as advertised, but further developments would be fun to watch.

Will we get updates by email?
[General Topics] xhiloh:
Dorothy already has automatic update feature in it. You can see the update dialogue if there is any update. (The dialogue appears once a day if the update is available.) And we are planning to send e-mail notifications for updates.

We are now in the closed beta phase, that is, we are adding new features, fixing bugs, and changing things. Your suggestion or feedback will be very helpful. Please feel free to suggest.
[General Topics] xILukasIx:
I'm still waiting for their email with the download...

Really looking forward to trying it!
[General Topics] Farmer Ted:
My email went in the spam box-check there.

Nice browser. I like the blue skin. It's not as fast as mini 4.2, but is on par with ucweb6 and opera 9.7. It needs settings and a full screen mode. Definitely a keeper.
[General Topics] Soaa-:
Pages seem to render faster than Opera Mobile 9.5, actually. The issue is that they aren't updated to the screen properly. For example, when I navigate from one page to another, while the new page is loading, I still see the previous page, but if I scroll while it's loading, it renders the new parts without updating the section that's still painted with the old page.

Definitely a keeper. Needs more work on usability features, such as kinetic scrolling, better zooming and text reflow. Good job guys!

Oh, by the way, I use an HTC Touch Diamond. VGA screen.
[General Topics] xhiloh:
Somebody registered but didn't get an e-mail?

Please let me know if you can't find any e-mail from "Dorothy" even in the spam box.

Maybe we should modify the e-mail sender module :(

contact e-mail: dorothy-feedback@company100.net

And, on the other hand, yes,

we are working on that page update bug.
[General Topics] Soaa-:
Hey! Thanks for the update. I just sent an email to the feedback address so all of your team can see it. I also included a couple more concerns, I think.

In any case, it's pretty awesome to have yet another quality browser enter the WinMo market. We'll see how the competition plays out. Best of luck to everyone? Haha~
[General Topics] anvandarnamn:
wow this is really a keeper! it really loads pages fast, even got more speed than opera mini on my device (touch pro 2)! needs a full screen mode though... and sometimes i get minor rendering issues( grey boxes here and there)

will keep an eye out for updates!
[General Topics] bally3:
same here with the email - not spam folder no email, unfortunately.
[General Topics] bfarkin:
Is there a QVGA version of this?

Thanks,

Bernard
[General Topics] xhiloh:
Not yet :(

We are preparing resolution independent version.
[General Topics] xILukasIx:
When can I expect to get my email?
[General Topics] meroupow:
I really like it!

On touch HD the rendering is fast and accurate, also compared to Iris it seems that the page better follows the finger gesture (more fluid movement).

Compared to opera, It better supports Iphone websites thanks to webkit.

Impressive first attempt.

Like everybody else I'd like to see features like:

- Fullscreen (I really don't need to see windows top bar when surfing, and the address bar could be hidden the same way the bottom bar is hidden: just leaving a back button and an extend bar button maybe?)

- Zoom (I'd like not to have to scroll left and right when I zoom on iphone websites, could we chose the canvas size like in Opera? or have options like in Iris Mobile, Desktop, Column...)

- Kinetic scrolling (Everybody is really used to it, even if I also like the opera mini way were scrolling on the page is twice as fast as scrolling the finger - this one can be implemented easily I guess if kinetic takes too much time for now allowing for faster scrolling)

- Remember passwords (in safe and secure way of course)

Also question: What is the option at the right in the bottom bar with a + and a t?

Anyway thanks, really happy to see things moving on WM side of browsing, funny to see the new IE struggling compared to the competition...
[General Topics] Farmer Ted:
The + and - zoom in and out.
[General Topics] xhiloh:
For those who registered but didn't get any e-mail:

Would you please let me know your e-mail address?

(Send me a private message or e-mail

through the messaging function of this site, please.)

I'll check the database and try to send the download link.
[General Topics] meroupow:
And the one on the right of the settings button with a plus in a circle and a t if you press it (once you bring the bottom bar)?
[General Topics] xhiloh:
It's an experimental feature.

Displayed "t" on the menu,

Dorohty zooms in/out only text without layout change.

(Imagine the text-only zoom feature of the Firefox.)

We've observed that it doesn't work in some web pages.

Yes, you might think it's not that intuitive.

We are trying improve our browser user interface.

If you have any suggestion on that feature, please suggest.
[General Topics] Soaa-:
Correct rendering of wider sites would be nice. Right now some elements are sized to the width of the phone, while others span their full width. I'd say a virtual screen of 1000 pixels would be fair. Or even better: a dynamic page width that scales to the width of the page if it uses fixed layouts, and that scales to the phone if the layout is liquid.

And as I've said before, better zooming would be nice, as in an overview that we can double tap to zoom in.

I think the main issues have been raised already. Can't wait for updates!
[General Topics] asayamalaka:
downloading now, can't wait to try it out....thanks a lot
[General Topics] xhiloh:
We are trying to render the cotent of mobile sites to fit to the width of the device,

while for non-mobile sites, to use wider width.

Would you like to list up the sites you tested?

Maybe we can use that list for debugging and testing.
[General Topics] aussiebum:
Hi, stumbled on this browser in the Touch HD thread section and must admit it's quite good for 1st attempt! Loading and render speed seems quite good vs Iris Browser, and definitely competitive with Opera 9.7.

Just trying it out however and noticed that the "Settings" page doesn't seem to work? Set/Info/Help/etc are all coming up as blank.

Also assume that tabbed browsing is currently not active? Clicking on the "tab" icon seems to do nothing...

All the other requests have already been mentioned so I won't repeat them again.

Tested on Dutty's WM 6.5 R9 Turbo over HSDPA connection.

Will definitely be watching this browser closely.

EDIT: ok, tested against www.smh.com.au, there seems to be some sort of weird slowdown after I navigated down one page. haven't investigated how/why yet.
[General Topics] maniatico:
hi i try it on my hd and it does not want to load did u install it in the internal or external mem. i am also using Duttys WM 6.5 R9 Turbo
[General Topics] aussiebum:
external mem. Gonna test installing to internal mem see if this fixes my blank settings/help page issue....

maybe u just need a soft reset?
[General Topics] aussiebum:
Hotmail is auto-throwing the Dorothy confirmation email to Spam by default... people who say they didn't get it might be worth checking there 1st.
[General Topics] aussiebum:
Ok, figured this part out at least. Looks like current Dorothy release is hardcoded to run off Internal Memory / Storage, so installing to External Memory screws up the settings / info/help pages.
[General Topics] pcboyy:
wow.. i kinda like it!

but u can add "mini map" for users to pan/scroll long-page websites.. i'm very impressed with this new launched beta version... i hope the next releases are much much more better and i'm surely will keep this, replace all other browsers in my touch pro

keep up the good work Dorothy.. what a sweet name :)
[General Topics] sakshaug007:
This might have already been asked, but does this browser support flash content like Skyfire does?

Thanks
[General Topics] kuzibri:
Just installed this browser. Amazingly fast compared to Opear 9.7b on my Touch HD. Few remarks though: setings - info - help - history - tabs show nothing and I cannot add bookmarks. Besides that, for a beta release: absolutely amazing.

regards, Kuzibri
[General Topics] wg5566:
Would be better is you can explain what is webkit and put this link on the first post:

http://webkit.org/
[General Topics] aussiebum:
See my previous post for fixing the settings/info/help/etc pages. Got notification just 5 mins ago of a browser update - downloaded and installed but have no idea what's updated though.
[General Topics] d.cortez:
i concur with the others feedback on improvement areas. otherwise, for a beta release this is impressive. i tend to visit more "mobile-based" sites and the page rendering is very good. will definitely continue using. look forward to future updates. [FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[General Topics] pcboyy:
we need cut/copy & paste function !!!
[General Topics] kuzibri:
I installed the browser directly in internal memory. Seems not to work for me then.
[General Topics] Ferdimage:
Im am seriously in love with this browser, even at a beta stage when i first saw the browser layout i loved it already, then loading up pages that opera had troubles with were blazing fast and did not hang like opera used to...

as a first time user my feedback is this is already my default browser!! btw im an omnia i8000 user, and im glad this works great from day one :)

Also i like the zoom function so dont change that as opera annoyed me when it zoomed too much or not enough....so this works great...

flash movies not working yet on youtube, thats ok...

looking forward to updates :)
[General Topics] kniffo80:
Amazing browser, tried a lot (Iris, Opera 9.5, Opera 9.7, Opera Mini etc. pp) but this beats every seen browser in browsing and navigation speed. I'll have to test some more for slower connection, but it seems the best alternative browser at the end ;)
[General Topics] pcboyy:
i hope dev can add full-screen function.. the address taskbar already eats a lot of space of my screen..
[General Topics] Damionix:
Wow just amazing

I think I just found myself my NEW BROWSER. Its great, works as advertised, way better for a Beta. Loads faster than Opera, its wow. Keep up the good work. Will be referring this to lots of my friends:)
[General Topics] brasavid:
my wishes (for xhiloh)

thanks for this new browser

here is what i would appreciate most in a browser:

1. flash support

2. personal certificates support

3. copy/past function

3. tabbed browsing and a full screen mode

no browser besides IE does theese things. it may be a sluggish browser,

but i just have to use it. there's no alternative for now.

please incorporate theese functions in dorothy. any chance we can see this ???

and in what time ???

thanks again
[General Topics] aussiebum:
Noticed another bug - Dorothy seems to have a problem downloading files. Tried to download Bing Mobile from www.discoverbing.com/mobile/, but after clicking on the "Bing for Windows Mobile 6" link it just sat there and did nothing. Iris picked up and saved the download from the same link in about 10-15 secs over HSDPA connection.
[General Topics] Meza1:
I've installed this to the internal storage on a Touch HD with WinMo 6.5.

The browser starts fine, but does not display any pages. I can see the buttons for the browser, but when I load a page it just displays white. Pages are getting loaded because the title bar shows the name of the website, and I can see the list of pages in my history. But just nothing is actually displayed in the main area of the browser!

Any ideas? Tried a soft-reset.
[General Topics] Meza1:
Ok tell a lie... I just force-closed the browser and restarted it and things are working now.
[General Topics] ranasrule:
how can i make it load the full version of a website insted of the mobile version ?
[General Topics] k1ll3rdr4g0n:
I would be cautious about this browser, when I ran it I got a BUNCH of errors saying how it couldn't open up several programs including tmail.exe. Perhpas it was just a bug - on second launch I didn't get any errors...but why would you even be trying to touch tmail?

Anyone else get those error messages on first run?
[General Topics] kniffo80:
nope, got no error.
[General Topics] kniffo80:
I've got some issues to tell:

1st: HTTP Basic Authentication seems not to be implemented yet? This is a must have ;)

2nd: Screen Rotation please - also MUST have ^^

3rd: some settings to be implemented, as cache size etc. pp, behavior

4th: tabbed browsing would be cool, but is not that necessary i think ...

5th: smoother scrolling, but not necessary

Hmmm i believe there will be more things to tell ... will test further. But still, this is one of the fastest browsers, i've ever had installed ...
[General Topics] ranasrule:
no one ?? :(
[General Topics] kniffo80:
i think it is not implemented yet ... i wonder if there would be another way of displaying the sites ... hmmm ...
[General Topics] freaknormel:
Its giving an SEND, do not send error to me continiously.

( Touch pro 2 )
[General Topics] xhiloh:
Unfortunately, at this time, if the site does not provide url for the non-mobile version, there is no way to load desktop version of the web page.

But we think your feedback is worth to consider to implement.
[General Topics] DRIPOD:
I don't like it much but i'm not sure it matches my device I have QVGA screen
[General Topics] freaknormel:
Is it normal that this browser isnt compatible with the Touch pro2.. Cuz im getting send - do not send. cdevice errors all the time.

Otherwise i would use it
[General Topics] pcboyy:
Hi Dev.any news when ur next release will be launched? Cant wait for more improvements :)
[General Topics] xhiloh:
Dorothy update is around the corner.

New version of Dorothy will be released in about a week.

This version will include

- URL Auto Completion

- File Download

- W3C Geolocation API support

(Yes, it's already included in Dorothy.

I mentioned this feature for notification purpose.)

- Installation support for external memory

as new features, and some bugs will be fixed.

And we are also preparing additional features

as the response to the feedback.

Some of these features are listed below.

- Full Screen Mode

- LCD Resolution Independent UI

- Kinetic Scrolling

- Zooming by double tap

( Some people dislike this feature. We are also considering that.)

- Text wrapping

- and other features.

We are trying to provide these features as soon as possible.
[General Topics] freaknormel:
I hope that it will work on the touch pro2
[General Topics] jandeeg:
Nice, Dorothy is quickly becoming my favorite browser. Is saving of passwords also supported?
[General Topics] jandeeg:
Also: when I type an URL for example geenstijl.nl it goes to google.kr straight away while in opera it resolves to www.geenstijl.nl. Is this by design? Also is there a way to set your own search engine or maybe search from the browser, maybe with a seperate google/Live search field?
[General Topics] freaknormel:
Possibility to Select a specific Word or words on a website would be great too..
[General Topics] meroupow:
Hello, how is the next release going on?
[General Topics] freaknormel:
I think its NOT :)
[General Topics] aimile:
Dorothy Browser New Release v0.2.2

Hello, I'm another member of Dorothy Browser Developers.

Here comes a new release of Dorothy Browser. :)

#### Dorothy Browser v0.2.2 ####

1. Added : URL Auto-Completion

2. Fixed : Support External Memory

- fixed problems of menu and options when Dorothy Browser is installed in External Memory

3. Added : Support XPath, XSLT

You can download the newly released version at www.dorothybrowser.com

or if already have, it automatically updates itself.

We're planning to release another version with file download soon enough.

Thanks,

Julian Park
[General Topics] jms2367:
Does this new version support QVGA devices already?
[General Topics] freaknormel:
Yeah .. Good question.

Would be nice !
[General Topics] Farmer Ted:
Awesome! Glad I can test it out with all the options.
[General Topics] aimile:
Sorry not yet, I think it will take a time. :(
[General Topics] aimile:
Great. But It happens in some models not every.
[General Topics] Riceburner:
mine doesn't seem to ant to auto-update.

like most things about it, but not the lack of paste in the url bar, and the empty settings, bookmark, tab buttons.
[General Topics] pcboyy:
i love the panning feature in dorothy.. feels like using iphone's safari.. but dorothy needs a quick upgrade and user-friendly like other browsers i.e iris etc
[General Topics] freaknormel:
Where can i sign the qvga version - petition :D
[General Topics] emay:
Like to know that too!
[General Topics] willl:
Looks alright.

Sucks that there's no support for non-touch screen mobiles :(

That goes for a lot of new Windows Mobile software too these days (like Fennec). Oh well.
[General Topics] aussiebum:
nice, but causes a freeze after several pages of websurfing on WM 6.5 build 23053.
[General Topics] saurabh88:
not yet for qvga?plz do it fast
[General Topics] freaknormel:
DEAD Project,

Not even a Reaction from those guys.
[General Topics] zappaff:
I'm looking forward to testing your browser.... very glad to see developers at work... :)
[General Topics] shagratt:
Don't like the name but after reading the good comments I gonna try it :)
[General Topics] federaly:
Just picked up my TD2. I am really keen to get a new browser and IE is just too slow and just looking for a alternative to Opera. I registered but still no reply yet to download the beta =[
[General Topics] federaly:
Any chance of getting into the beta to run this browser? Already registered and awaiting invite...
[General Topics] niknik76:
Did you check your junk mail folder?
[General Topics] federaly:
Sorry meant to reply sooner. Yes I have gotten running and I do notice that it much faster then IE and I would say that it always just peaks out faster then Opera.

Question though, How soon can we expect Landscape(LS)? I would like to use it more but with out LS I find web browsing much slower, exp due to typing being more difficult and most webpages(ie.engadget) are better viewed in LS.

Otherwise fantastic browser guys cannot wait to see what you update it with next!
[General Topics] freaknormel:
When is the full version going to be released ? This looks like 1 big garbage. Looks like it will never come
[General Topics] xaiai:
support flash?
[General Topics] freaknormel:
NO , get skyfire for flash support