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[Omnia II General] phnikola:
I would totally agree with positive comments of I8000.

This is my first non-HTC phone in last 5 years (S200-Trinity-TP-T.Cruise) and I must say WOOWWW!!!

Build quality unseen by HTC, hardware (just put SKTools benchmark you'll see some 50% better performance over HD), lightweight.

I must say - I don't like Samsung software - but prefer naked WinMo. But when was re-cooking the problem? At least for this forum members?

So in one word, Samsung made terrific WinMo phone.

Must say that every HTC I owned forced me to certain compromise:

1. Qtek S200 (speaker would die)

2. Trinity (excellent, but paint peels quickly - come on!)

3. TPro (sold it in 3 days, keyboard wobbled, and was not substantially faster than Trinity - which could be overclocked if needed as well as S200)

4. Touch Cruise (thought I could be easy for a while - but speaker is nightmare, lousiest screen of all HTCs I owned (kinda yellowish) - later I found out that HTC changes vendors for certain parts so check your build date before buying). Not to mention Qualcomm drivers issue. Trinity was faster even when playing Scumm games!

I simply cannot understand this phone to have lower price in the shops compared to HD. Faster CPU (with scalable speed), AMOLED, 720x480 video at 30fps, 16GB integrated storage, lighter 20% and roughly 50% faster in all benchmarks. SKTools build I used put it as a fastest PPC device (didn't have HD2), and not just in processor - check out Direct Draw test - second fastest after Dell Axim x51.

Dunno for sure - but that might mean that beside CPU raw-power someone also put some effort in writting proper drivers.(ahemmm!)

I can only say - we my friends have been heavily ripped off during past years for owning WinMo devices. Thank heaven for competitors!
[Omnia II General] jebise101:
i have my one of my buttons maps to rotate the screen (above camera buttom) and it works quite well most samsung apps that have rotate work without the button but if i want to force it i can using a button so i get the best of both worlds

from modaco
[Omnia II General] hkwildboy:
Auto rotation can be achieved by using Orientation Detection. You can selectively choose which programs to autorotate.

http://www.modaco.com/content/i8000...orientation-detection-v1-0-autorotation-v1-1/
[Omnia II General] Smille123:
There is also a onboard-autorotation. It can be configured in registry

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\Software\AutoRotation

It is recomended to select allways the next upcoming number in the string

The whole number of strings must be set in the dword "Count"
[Omnia II General] junalmeida:
I've made a little app to manage this registry setting.
[Omnia II General] VOODOOS!L:
nice to know, wanna share??
[Omnia II General] junalmeida:
I've made a release here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=5523515
[Omnia II General] 12s:
Cannot install any type of Japanese language packs

If anyone decides to install CE-STAR or any other language enabled softwares, pls dont do it, ur contacts, emails and SMS stuff will disappear!! I tried around 5 different softwares already and really messes up the phone!!!!:mad::(:eek:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] BlackBull:
hey i got the 3.28.407.0 German Rom on my device. What is the best radio for it?

Because i have heavy problems with my current radio and my carrier.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] denco7:
Since all of/ most of us here are not running a german rom nor do we live in Ludwigshafen, there is no way for any of us to help you. Therefore cluttering up the ROM DEVELOPMENT forum with yet another new " help me " thread probably wasn't the best idea.

Go to the Ultimate Radio thread and test out radios for yourself and pick the one that works the best.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=393182
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] BlackBull:
thx

i will
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] joshkoss:
Thread closed..

Issue should be posted in radio thread as stated
[General Questions and Answers] pieterverberne:
The Android OS runs on different CPU (architectures), but how is Android ported? Are the drivers of the devices inside the phone (like cam, phone-transmitter and accelerometer) part of Android, or developed by the phone manufacturer?

In other words: If the working of the hardware is not completely open, (which I think is the case) there must be some ‘pieces of OS’ being closed source. So how open is Android actually? Are there only some closed source drivers?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] woeds:
I accidentaly put my rhodium in the washing machine (forgot to check my jeans pockets) and it was in there for a few minutes.

When I noticed I took out the battery, SD card and sim card and dryed everything with a towel. I then put it in a bowl of rice for day (read that tip online somewhere) to drain out any excess moisture.

It seems to be completely dry now from the outside, although I can't say for sure about the insides. It still won't turn on.

Any ideas? or is my brand new Rhodium dead?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] krisez:
you get points for positive thinking.

sorry to say, but your toy has had it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] brynweb:
Sounds to me like you need to make use of that insurance policy that you sensibly bought for your TP2. :rolleyes:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mysterd:
I read somewhere on xda forum that sometimes wet devices would turn on after a couple of days...

If you're not in a hurry, maybe wait some time... but don't hope too much :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] radiowc:
Wow! got to be more careful next time. :eek: This is a very expensive phone. Got to take real good care of it.... "Handle with care" :D

I guess wait at least 72 hours before turning it on back again and not before that.... else will be RIP.

btw, if your phone is "ON" while in the washer...forget about, get a new one.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] tonyn84:
One thing to try, sometimes batteries will self destruct and save the phone. Get a replacement and see if it powers up, I know that worked with one I took into the pool a couple years ago.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] beast0898:
A hiardryer on very low heat setting normally works quite well for removing moisture ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Isard:
Damn, that's a bummer...

I'd try someone elses battery, but wouldn't expect miracles to happen...:(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] matttytn2:
how you didnt know is beyond me! i hope you get it sorted and take more care next time i dont believe it
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] konon:
White rice trick

Here is a trick, take out the battery and put the phone in a bag of white rice. Make sure it's completely covered with rice!. Leave it there for at least 72 hours.

This trick worked on my wife's iPhone. It was revived after being completely dead for 3 days.

Hope it helps.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] faria:
dam man! thats bad luck!

i hope you use a top brand softener with it other than that it would be sacrilege :D

one of my phone fell in the toilet once, i removed the battery and took it apart and the washed it with alcohol [not the drinking type:)] after a day drying it worked just fine.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] solsearch:
some phones will work without the battery if connected to the charger. You could try that to see if it's the battery. If you're willing to take it apart there's a spray technicians use to remove all moisture. I've been told never to apply hear (so if you use a hairdryer use one with a cold setting), and yeah, just wait, make sure it's gotten rid of ALL the moisture, and hope for the best. If all the moisture isn't gone, you could short circuit it by trying to turn it on.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] lombardo8:
My charmer fell into the toilet one evening when I was very drunk. It went of immediately but being too drunk I took it home and left it as it was. The next morning I gave it the hairdryer treatment but it still didnt power up. I threw the phone under my bed and left it for dead. About 4 nights later I woke up at night and I saw 'the light' from under my bed, on closer look my charmer was miraculously switched on. I tried to charge it but it just showed a red light. Later that day I tried again and it started to charge.

The phone went on to serve me without any problems for about 6 more months and I eventually sold it for £80.

Moral of the story; You could get lucky (fingers crossed)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] thedudelasse:
The water itself does not cause the short circuiting. You need purified water to cleans it from the salt and other particles that cause the short circuit.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] solsearch:
Yes, water itself is not conductive. Everytime we see someone get electrocuted in the movies thanks to a mixture of water and electricity it's because of the electrolytes. But considering that almost no one has truly pure water running through their washer etc, I just simplified. But the reason why you shouldn't apply heat is due to the catalyst factor of heat. Water and metal don't mix (rust, oxidization), and applying heat can accelerate that process. The end of the story is to get it truly dry, don't apply heat, and keep your fingers, toes, and eyes crossed.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Lyian:
This is true. While it is possible to safe an electronic device after a soaking for a while, once it has been doused in water, unfortunately, its lifespan is already shortened. If you get it working again, it might last a few months, or even a year. But eventually, corrosion WILL claim it. It might be possible to open it up, and clean every contact, every piece of solder, copper or electronic pathway. If you do that, then maybe you can keep it from corroding.

My roommate lost his phone during winter. Come to find out, he had dropped it in the snow When it melted he found it. It was dead for a few days till it dried out. Then it worked again for about 5-6 months then finally died completely due to corrosion.

Good luck.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] htctouchprotwo:
Saved about 10 different phones, some multiply times and many other electronic devices, from pools, ocean, garden hoses, sprinklers.

Most important thing is to remove the battery, IMMEDIATELY. We are talking seconds the better, don't think, rip it out. The battery will power up the short circuits and cause the damage. Leaving the battery in for only a minute may be enough time to fcuk something.

Ok preparing

Disassemble the phone as much as possible, the more the quicker it will dry. If the water was salty or dirty , wash them under the tap trying to get into everything.( I am serious)

To dry(cook:-P

Test you oven temp is accurate from 40c to 50c with temperature probe. Set temperature to 40c to be safe, 50c if your in a hurry, 45c would be safe, but it's an oven it may randomly jump up 10c??? hence 40 is safe. Around 50-60 some plastics start to deform, ( this I have learnt first hand).

OK spread the parts out on clean metal is best or ceramic plate/s and place the plates in the oven.

Drying time. Depends on the parts and how big they are and if water could be trapped in them.

Bare, open parts, no touching surfaces, keyboards can be pricks. 2-4hours at 50-40c.

Touching parts but nothing complex, i.e. no water stuck between the keyboard parts. 6-9 hours.

Whole phone 1-2 days.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] woeds:
Thanks for all the tips guys. It's still drying out now in a big bowl of rice. I'm going to try to turn it on again tomorrow. A friend of mine has one too, so if it fails to work I'm going to try his battery to see if that's the problem.

I'm using my N95 now, and it sucks :/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] TheBundo:
Use DISTILLED water to rinse it out, NOT tap water
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] woeds:
IT'S ALIVE! :D

There is water behind the screen though (or between the casing and the screen). Do you think that'll just dry out over time, or do I need to take it apart to wipe it off?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] somethingdope:
it'll go away eventually. if i were you, i'd refrain from using it for at least a week to make sure its completely dried out...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] krisez:
this thread is simply unbelievable!

Attn Nokia board members : HTC phones can survive a rinse cycle.

please keep us updated on your phone's recovery!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] woeds:
I will! The question now is, how long will it last? I'm going to let it dry some more and am fairly confident that the water under the screen will dry out. I'm just not sure if the water left behind any residue that can damage the phone on the inside somewhere in the future. I sure hope not :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] krisez:
if it does leave residue perhaps you can..... wash it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] xdadJeroen:
I would be careful try your friends batteries.. i once went swimming with my k800i 2 years ago:o went to my store and they wouldnt want to give me a battery to try because the phone could be short circuited and that would destroy the battery..:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] shockabuku:
my i780 fall into the toilett...i've put it into the pocket of my shirt and when i grabed the toilett brush....it won't power up and there was just a buzzing sound. i remebered the insurance i bought. i've send it to a repairshop and they managed to clean the mainboard with alcohol but needed to replace everything else. but it works now :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Alcibiade:
That s a very very very good one ;)

I am always worried to drop mine in the toilet while drunk :P
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Alcibiade:
I think by doing that you increase greatly the risk of corrosion (Just my 2c)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Alcibiade:
Go for the oven for this one
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Black Phoenix:
Distiled Water or Ion Free Water is the best one to clean electronic components, just simply do not forget to bake the equipment to remove all the humidity. Why is the best? Simply because that water is pure H2O, no other residue or atoms (like the tap water that may have silica, iron, fluor and other components).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Hamsteriel:
Never never never never never apply heat to your phone. Hair dryers and ovens can damage multiple components. Either find yourself some silica gel (those little DO NOT EAT! packets) or use rice. If you search the CrackBerry forum, there is a wealth of info on water damage to phones. My Pearl is still working a year after being sprayed with a dish sprayer from an industrial kitchen.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] herbys:
Can likely be saved

I've saved almost a dozen devices after them being submerged in water. If the battery can be removed, it can almost always be saved.

What you need to do is to:

1) quickly remove the battery. It is almost invariably dead, but it is better to remove it anyway.

2) Remove any accessories, SIM cards, SD cards and the like.

3) Soak the device into distilled water. Yes, do it. It won't do any harm. Distilled water is non conductive and won't cause a short circuit or rust anything. While your device was previously soaked in common water particles dissolved in that water remained in your device when it dried, and those particles can change the conductive characteristics of some component or even create short circuits. Soaking it in distilled water will remove most of these particles.

4) Remove the device and shake well to remove any excess water.

5) Put it back in a new bowl of distilled water and let it soak for fifteen minutes. This will dissolve any remaining particles. Some add a drop of alcohol into the water but I would rather use pure distilled water.

6) after this is done, shake well to remove all excess water, blow through the holes (with a dry mouth) to remove accumulated water, then dry it with a hair drier on a low setting or far away (don't let the device get too warm).

7) Put the device on a bowl with rice for a day, so any remaining water is evaporated.

That should do the trick. I've resucitated phones, headsets, PPCs and other devices with this process. Other than one that fell into salt water (which was corroded in just a few minutes) I've had 100% success, so I think you should give it a try.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] woeds:
Thanks for the tip!

It's already working at the moment, the only thing left is the water behind the LCD screen. I really hope that will dry out over time.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] htctouchprotwo:
Most electronic devices are rated to tolerate "atleast" 45C many can go to 50-60c with no damage, 40C is a very safe Temperature. Hehe in my city we have had 48C days, more in the sun... Leave a phone on the car dash board and you can get 60-70degrees and a dead phone. A good oven set at 40C is safe.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] woeds:
Seems like the water behind the screen won't go away by itself. A friend of mine is going to see if his insurance will cover it (he put it in the washer). If not, I'll try a tip I read somewhere online: soak the thing in 95% alcohol. That should take care of any residue and draw out the water.

Would be the last resort
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] woeds:
The water is gone! :D

I tried using Silica Gel packets, seeing the rice wasn't doing the job with the water beneath the LCD. I put the phone in a tupperware container with two small silical gel packets for two days, and voila! the water is gone now.

:cool:

(the phone could die any time of leftover residue though, not a nice thought :()
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] xdadJeroen:
too bad my only device submerged in water was submerged in salt water.. couldn't do a thing..:o
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] TrekkerJmm:
I used to fix cell phones for a living and what we used to do is turn the oven on 150 then turn it off and put the phone on a piece of paper or cardboard until the oven cools down. We brought back lots of phones like this. I am only telling everyone what WE used to do as a last resort so don't hold me responsible...Tj
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] agitprop:
Silica gel is sold in bulk as a type of kitty litter. Try a well stocked supermarket or pet store.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] tyrantrave:
Can anyone tell me how the moisture sensor paper next to the batter is suppose to look dry vs. wet (exposed to water)? I got my touch pro 2 yesterday, and the moisture sensor is white with a pink checker pattern on it... :confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] hake101:
Yeah, its meant to be a checked patten already. Don't worry about it- we had plenty of people confirm this when the TP2 first came out.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] tyrantrave:
Thanks so much for the reply and peace of mind! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Fuzalert2k:
That could be a completely different problem.

That "water" is known as the Newton ring.

And no, you can't get rid of it.

Google Newton ring. MANY phones who haven't even touched water have gotten it, ranging from the HTC Wizard to the Touch Diamond to the Touch pro, all the way up to the Xperia. All common in HTC devices.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gliscameria:
Troll?

This sounds absolutely trollrific, but here is a procedure I've used for reviving things (notebooks, crap phones from friends who like to take them swimming)

Go buy some 99% IPA (isopropyl alcohol) anyplace that sells electronics stuff, like circuit boards should help you. Fry's electronics is awesome.

Take the battery out. Soak the phone. I don't know if touchpads like this.

Really, soak it, slosh it around. If you have access to a sonic bath (jewelry cleaner) that may help the process. The problem isn't the water, it's the **** in the water. Ions suck. If you bathed it in pure DI water it would probably be OK. What we want is to flush the ions out. The calcium and crud in the water. I have revived dead notebooks that had stuff spilled in them doing this.

Soak it, shake it around, dry it out. Then repeat.

For drying... I don't think heat is a good idea. Freezers do a nifty job, and using a duster can will blow crud out of tight spots.

As I've said, I've used this on notebooks and the like, but I don't know about the screens on these things. Make sure to remove the battery!!!

It took me a good 24 hours of soaking and shaking to revive and old LG. If someone replies with, "HEY, this will kill your phone." and has a good justification, then ignore me.

If IPA is too harsh, DI water may be OK. Don't drink it. =)

If you have a friend in college, you may be able to give it to them and have them run it through a rinse bath for a while. Again, DI only. Ions are evil buggers.

Just some suggestions man. It sounds like you're hosed. I'd save this as a last resort. The detergents in the wash may have really messed things up.

NOTE: DO NOT USE DISTILLED WATER. Period. You want De-ionized water. Ions are bad, mmmkay.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] toe-bee:
My Problem is, that I recieve only some of my SMS/text that was sent to my. So I heard from friends that they sent me a text message, but I didn't get it. There is no pattern on this problem. I have a conversation with 4 sms sent to me, but i only recieve 1,2,4. Message Nr. 3 is missing. Sometimes its also the first message thats lost.

All my friend got the status for sms/text activated and they get the status "delivered" for the lost messages.

Someone else that problem?

I only have seen the problem about sending, but none with getting.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Deleted member 308374:
yeah the same happened to me recently, but only with my GF number (same operator), not other contacts (AFAIK: since no one complained, no sms got missed!). still no diagnosis, and no solution obviously. hope that won't lead to a hard reset, which is a major pain :( :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] smudge1977:
I had an issue that my sim card was full - it seemed the phone was trying to save sms to the sim. I deleted a few and now all seems okay. However they can't be going to the sim any more as I have received more than I deleted.

This happened after I had been using a spare phone as I went camping and needed a phone that had a few days battery life instead of the day or so that my touch pro 2 has
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Deleted member 308374:
thanks for your help smudge.

it's not my case since my sim card is blank, no sms or contacts in it.

however, yesterday evening I hard resetted the phone, now I'm waiting to test if the problem is still here. If it is, it must be the operator's fault, or something related to my GF device / SIM. I'll let you know if I discover something new...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] char:
I have similar problem - I'm supposed to receive SMS, but I don't. I didnt have this problem (I didnt notice it) before I installed latest version of S2U2, maybe there's some problem with it? I have S2U2 set to show incoming SMS/MMS messages...

Also I have enabled hack mentioned in this forum which powers on mobile on receiving message (so it is displayed on the screen, not only notified by blinking LED and sound as is default setting). Maybe there is some incompatibility with S2U2, Im trying to pipoint this.

ChAr
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gunggu:
uhm...missing sms should be the operator's problem,

i've been having such issue not only with TP2.....not all the time but usually consecutive sms with only one person usually caused it
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] schreda:
i have the same problem, tried hard resets rom flash but no success!

i am from austria!..

please somone fix that thing