yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cdguider:
I could not have said that better

I am happy with the Touch Pro 2, although when a 3G compatible phone with a SnapDragon processor come to T-Mobile USA, I will purchase it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] piannetta:
I love mine. My only gripe is speed. I do find it struggles at times but I think that's more Exchange Activesync (as it burns rubber when it's not syncing).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] barneypooch:
I love my TP2. Best phone I've owned, including the iPhone 3g.

It would be a lie to say it's as fast as a 3gs but who cares? It's fast enough.

Advantages over 3g/3gs:

- replaceable battery;

- hw keyboard (and a great one, at that);

- hi-rez screen (very nice for the web, if I put my glasses on :eek:)

- all the resources/tweaks freely available, without having to jailbreak.

Disadvantages:

- PPC apps are still a messy business. Nothing is easy, though you CAN get what you want, if you try;

- apps way too expensive. This will change;

- devs seem to be focusing on iPhone. Hopefully this will change, but it's depressing to see how much is being directed at the iPhone.

Goodness knows how many phones I've owned. The TP2 is my fave, bar none. It does everything I want, and I don't have to be Jobs's beeeatch.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] homeward:
Have To Concur...

...that this is about as perfect as phone technology gets, at the moment (until HTC mates the Leo with the TP2's keyboard...).

After ten years of Palms, Handsprings, Cliés & Treos, I was really struggling to find a device that worked straight out of the box for me....

Of course, we all have slightly different needs & wants (hence the subjectivity of all this; mine are driven by my level of disability...) -- &, although I will readily admit to being a nerd/geek/whatever on many fronts, will only ever buy a piece of kit (i) to fill a need; & (ii) after a very long period of research (...so long, in this case, that my other half was convinced that there wasn't an answer to the question I was asking).

Due to prior (extremely negative) experiences with Microsoft's desktop products, I had initially simply ignored all WinMo products; & -- even though I have been a devout (but critical) Apple (desktop) user for well over twenty years -- the iPhone immediately disqualified itself, for many reasons (...not least being the fact that I couldn't keep hold of the thing for more than a few seconds at a time, without dropping it).

In the end, I simply had to be platform-agnostic: & ask which machine, on specs alone, ticked the most boxes. The Touch Pro2 was the only device that -- by a long way -- ticked them all. [And some of you may be amused that one of those boxes was size (i.e. it had to be chunkier than an iPhone...); & another was the ability to write huge swathes of text using a stylus... (hence my previous loyalty to my creaking Treo 650).]

I admit that I've tweaked my TP2 in the month or so that I've had it (e.g. upped the speaker volume; messed around with the registry, etc.); but it's still substantially as it was when it left the factory.... Finding that Windows Mobile on an HTC device not only meant great tech support from HTC, but this incredibly supportive, open & -- dare I say -- caring community, here, was a bonus I could not have expected, though: but I actually think that's a reflection not just of the extensibility of the software platform, but also of the kind of people & the loyalty that the hardware (&, therefore, the manufacturer) attracts.... [But I'm wandering off into marketing theory, now: so apologies.... (But just look at how many of you have owned a string of HTC products, before this one....)]

What I'm really trying to get at is that we all bring different expectations, experiences, & -- when we're considering such an incredibly complex & capable piece of machinery... -- levels of expertise to both our feelings towards this device; as well as the way(s) we actually use it. The fact that so many of us have said so many positive things about it (& that so many of us (i) wanted to buy it; &/or (ii) have actually bought it) probably says it all....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sancmat:
I am an HD owner that made the jump to TP2 and other then the 6.1 rom (which will be resolved shortly) I love it. The keyboard really supprised me.

With the HD, Diamond 2, Touch Pro 2, Omnia, Omnia 2 all out WVGA support in more applications should happen.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MimicZ:
It ended up being the charger the USB cable was defective Thanks for the reply!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] crazythunder:
i'm sorry i wasted 1 minute of my life reading the first post. maybe if the op were a little more specific as to "all these issues", it might have been worth the read.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cdmoore74:
TP2 is far from a "Fail". The out of box experience if very good especially coming from a verizon vx6900 (aka touch). I have a larger screen, higher resolution, excellent keyboard, faster processor, better camera, faster/tweaked os, 3.5 headphone jack, g-sensor, proximity sensor, wifi and unlocked gps. I'm just waiting for a hard spl so I can taste what's cooking in the kitchen. Granted my vx6900 feels faster with NFSFAN 6.5 but this is after a year of fine tuning (I've flashed at least 40 different roms on that thing :eek:) I basically traded up because the hardware was getting long in the tooth. And if verizon has a snapdragon 1ghz proc, boat loads of ram, 4.3 inch display with windows mobile 7 next year at this time I will be upgrading again. It's really an endless cycle for hardware geeks like me.

And to tell you the truth the Iphone does have it's place. If I was picking a phone for the wife or daughter I would chose it over win mobile because apple did succeed in making the interface simple, getting apps is a breeze and Itunes is fine for those looking to spend money. My wife cares less about the nuts and buts of a phone. Windows phones are meant to be tweaked so that we can make them faster and better.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] :
I agree with most folks here. My TP2 has been the best out-of-box experience I've had for any phone and almost any other device I've owned. Many are expressing concerns about the speed of the TP2 processor, but raw numbers are only one part of the story. This phone is much faster than its specs might indicate.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] petasis:
I think that TP2 has a quite good performance to battery life ratio.

My phone lasts about 5 days without recharging (I make short calls :o), which is adequate. Lets hope that any successors will last enough...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bravo261:
woah, that's crazy. i get two days if i barely touch it. do any talking and surfing and i really should charge it either that night or during the next day at best
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] petasis:
I don't know the details, but it happened. :o

I charged it on Tuesday night, and the battery warning come up last night (Sunday). I do not close the phone, and I heard about two hours of radio on Friday... (But I close the screen as soon as I don't use the phone by pressing shortly the power button).

Is it because it brand new? (I have it for less than two weeks).

I was also afraid of the battery duration... Lets see how it goes as the phone gets a little older.

So, it needs charging every two days?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] loaferkan:
I got the same problem, I was watching youtube on it, and it wink down...I was like okay maybe it need the power, and now? it keep on restarting...just as you said it up there...did you get it fixed?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] petasis:
This happens also when you use the original charger that came with the phone?

If I had this problem (I don't) I would try to remove the battery and see it the device can be operated only by the charger (my HP rx5700 pda works this way).

Then I will shutdown the phone (by pressing the power button for a while).

Then put the battery back in, and try to charge it. The phone should have no reason to power on during charging, so it will give you plenty of time to put some energy inside the battery.

[I have not tried this - try at your own risk :o]

But all these will work on the assumption that the charger can operate the phone without the battery.

And please try only the charger that came with the phone for charging in such a situation. USB plugs from a PC for example, can provide up to 0,1 A during charging, while the original charger can give up to 1A (this is 10 times more current!)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Rob.P:
That's life

@The Great Malaki

I see where your coming from but to be honest I think thats the problem with all electronics today, it's not just limited to these phones. I see similiar forums for TV's nowadays.

I recently bought a samsung Blu-ray player and it wasn't until after 2 weeks of ownership I got a firmware update for it, by then I was already looking at forums for bug fixes and such like.

I think it's the state of play today, quality has definately been over-ridden by time, get the product out of the door and on the shelves and we'll fix the rest of the bugs later, seems to be the general attitude.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] anjuajax:
Have been through several threads on ROMs and found people more interested in tweaking the appearance of their WM6.5 2.1 or 2.5 Manila on HD. My suggestion would be to integrate these popular themes like Dusk and others into the cooked ROMs from genius like Throy, Miri etc...Preinstalled with HDWALL set to Wallpapercabs folder with different cabs or wallpapers to choose. Users will have more freedom to go to today settings and select themes they want..

Is their any integrity issue that I am not aware off? if not then why not these ROMs are pre-customized with all these themes and wallpapers...Any insight on this is really appreciated !
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
I love my themes and I have all components of the Dusk theme installed, but everyone is different and some users prefer a super lite version with almost nothing installed so that the phone is super quick. All these themes (to offer enough variety) would take up space and to many would slow down the speed of the phone. Whilst the themes are nice eye candy they are nothing more than just that and if one has no high powered requirements of the phone they are great, but not all users feel that way.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
So basically your asking for chefs to do all the hard work for you. The fun in having a wm device is so each person can customize his/her phone to their own tastes. Everyone has their own opinions on what is good and what isn't. For a chef to create a rom with lots of different options would be more time consuming for them meaning less time fixes issues and creating better roms.

This just isn't practical and for these reasons I am closing this thread
[Touch GSM General] Hamid1000:
problem solved!
[Touch GSM General] jeremy89632:
Bingo.

Get a Digitizer off ebay.

Or read this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=523650
[Touch GSM General] jeremy89632:
How can that be?

Touch screen usually got to do with digitizers.

I run out of ideas.
[Touch GSM General] Hamid1000:
so...

ok!

thanks for reply
[Touch GSM General] jeremy89632:
Or your digitizer has problems.

Get one from dealextreme, they are pretty reliable.

Or have you spoiled a component while changing digitizers.
[Touch GSM General] jeremy89632:
Well, go for your friend's idea, do anything to get your phone back working.

But always google before you do any major decisions.

Ask around, I may not be the one which is too hardware minded.

I believe, there is always someone better than me, so check out the internet and see whether it matches what is relevant to you.
[G1 General] subguy812:
What should the stock US G1 with the CRC build show under firmware version,baseband version,kernel version and build?
[G1 General] DirectMatrix:
LOL, no one probably knows because most on this forum are r00ted....

The CRC build should be CRC1, I know that much and the firmware version should be 1.5, I will have to look into the others.
[G1 General] subguy812:
I am rooted too..........but I need to know. LOL
[G1 General] tubaking182:
it should read the .19.26 radio as well i believe, i am not sure on any of the other stuff though cause i keep updating daily to new roms. why do you need to know what it should say?? as long as it is unrooted or has never been rooted and shows 1.5 then the rest will come up as it is supposed to, on a non-rooted phone there is no way to change the radio without the entire build being changed or anything else.
[G1 General] subguy812:
I am having some phone issues need to return and want to make sure it is current when I return it!
[G1 General] djgboy:
Model Number -T-Mobile G1

Firmware Version -1.5

Baseband Version- 62.50S.20.17H_2.22.19.26I

Kernel Version- 2.6.27-00393-g6607056 san@sandroid #1

Build Number- CRC1

HOPE THATS WORKS FOR YOU =)
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] caramba_sda:
NEW: my_rose WM6.1[en]v.3 Keyboard like the Treo 500 Vodafone

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5394955&postcount=160

OLD:

Based on Microsoft's emulator v.6.1.4

Deleted:

•Office

•OneNote

•WindowsLive

•Catalog

Added:

•CHomeConfig

•ClockOnTop

•IntrudersMissedCallsSmsFix0.4

•Reboot

•AudioManager

•HTCSlidingPanel

•PhoneCanvas_2G

•VolumeControl

•tgetfile

•TopBarBattery(Vista)

•PPS=8Mb

Original Thread:

http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=104139&view=findpost&p=3052093

Download:

http://www.mediafire.com/?mtdohmfmiqw(English input only)
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] kingmabuto:
THANKS ALOT for this, been looking to update my aged, and slow, yet my favorite phone which is still my main one.

I have couple of questions,

1) I see from the russian site u linked there is a WM 6.1 EN rom for it, what build is it, older than this rose_rom's 20757?

2)Which one is

faster

, this or WM 6.1 EN? (i am interested in speed rather than the 6.1 homescreens or overbloated dial skins)

3)i downloaded few days ago from a chinese site a file called otto wm6.1ru.abi. is it more or less the same? the translation on that page says they got it from 4pda. also from the screenshots of that site, radio ROM wasnt included, does this or WM 6.1 EN has a radio ROM?

3)What is the writing system on this rose_rom and WM 6.1 EN is it the bit annoying xT9/eT9 like all the 6.1 ROMs out there, or the amazing Palm dropdown autocomplete IME as in the original 6.0?

4)For speed and keeping the same features as the origial 6.0, which one do u recommend?

5)As i understood from chinese to english google translation from that site, to flash this, i need to format an SD card with Fat32, put the .abi file in it, enter bootloader(pressing down+on) and it will autoflash, is this correct?

6)What languages it comes with?

Again Thank you very much for this and your time, and I hope i didnt annoy you with my questions. Althoug i have many HTC Smartphones, this phone is my favorite and the only one i actually use from day to day with my custom mods on it. so i cant just try and flash stuffon without getting info about it.

Thanks.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] caramba_sda:
1.And here and there, Microsoft's emulator v.6.1.4

2.my_rose-Page Pool Size=8Mb.

6.1EN(China)-Page Pool Size=4Mb

3.Отто wm6.1ru.abi=6.1EN(China),included 4pda bootlogo.my_rose included orginal Palm bootlogo

Radio ROM is not included in my_rose.abi.On from Russian WM6(off.)

4.System of writing the standard for Russia, includes English, Russian and Ukrainian input

5.my_rose is quite fast, IMHO does not require additional action to increase the speed

6.Yes, I used Transcend microSD 2Gb/fat32.Ne use SDHS.

7.Only the English, as well as in Microsoft's emulator

Sorry for my English, Google translator
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] kingmabuto:
Thank you for your quick answers, its ok i figured its google translator but you give me all the info i need, as long as its faster, has english, and u flash it with fat32 microsSD, it is what i am looking for.

Also i registered last night with 4pda.ru to check the WM 6.1 EN it also turned out to be same build, 20757. (took me 1 hour to register trying to figure out how the security code work, i kept copying/pasting russian characters, it turned out to be XX+XX=)

I decided to go with this Rose ROM, hopefully i will try it this weekend.

Thanks again.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] marrk_nl:
Any luck trying? I'm so tempted to try too, but the only thing holding me back right now is the fact that I can't go back to the original ROM if anything goes wrong.

Or is there a way to revert if you prefer the original palm WM version?

Thanks to caramba_sda, I almost gave up hope on seeing a new WM version on my palm.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] kingmabuto:
I have the same exact fear as u, not to be able to revert, but i will try it, give me a couple of days when i am free.

also u know what is IntrudersMissedCallsSmsFix0.4 and tgetfile?
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] caramba_sda:
Return to the original ROM WM6.0 possible! What do you have now written in the About?
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] caramba_sda:
IntrudersMissedCallsSmsFix-The substitution of adopted SMS missed calls on the name of the notebook (contact).

tgetfile-system library necessary for certain programs such as Notepad
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] kingmabuto:
OK I FLASHED THIS. 1ST IMPRESSION IS EXCELLENT, THE PHONE IS MUCH, AND I MEAN MUCH FASTER THAN STOCK ROM AND LOOKING GOOD. STANDBY AS I USE IT NORMALLY THROUGHOUT THE DAY WITH CALLS, EXCHANGE PUSH AND (FINALLY) SMS-CHAT AND I WILL POST MORE CONCLUSIONS.

Boots in an ONE INSTANT, instead of ONE HOUR, and everything is so responsive, also windows folder is quite small and opens quickly.

Finally the LAG on the stock 6.0 is gone. I removed the clock on top and the battery meter, dont like those. Also i need to install Office and Windows Live and bring back my looks then it will be perfect.

Again Thank you very much caramba for your hard work and reviving that phone again.

EDIT - UPDATE ON STATUS

Activesync/Exchange Push, Emails, Contacts and Calendars works flawlessly and perfect. Still as fast as the 1st boot with all my mails and contacts in it. As well as Text Messaging also perfect. The best part is that the original autocomplete has remained and not replaced by that xT9.

However there are 3 issues now, only the 1st is critical with me.

1) the keyboard map is russian, the normal chars are proper english, all the alternalte chars are in russian (when pressing UPARROW) for example i cant get the upper symbols on the keyboard like ? , ' ; $ " @ / i get instead this Ю Б Э Ж Х Ъ this is very important. although in the registry it is 409 the keyboard layout, and the keyboard mapping/driver is pxa27x_keypad_Us.dll.

UPDATE ON THIS ISSUE(FIXED): Checked every where all the registry entries are correct, i tried replacing the pxa27x_keypad_Us.dll with the stock 6.0 one, keyboard froze and didnt work. Edit: Fixed with new release.

2) IE 6 .... I wish u didnt put that horrible browser in and stayed with IE 5, it is slow, the mouse cursor to move takes time and it corrupts the screen where it moves. anyway to revert to IE5 without flashing back.

UPDATE ON THIS ISSUE(FIXED): Found a registry work around, HKLM\Security\Internet Explorer\MSHTML from 1 to 0. I included a CAB for this. Will downgrade to IE5.

3) The font is a bit jagged, or not as smooth as before, specially bold, either it has been edited/replaced or Cleartype not working proper. I will try to replace Segoe with the latest one i have and check later.

UPDATE ON THIS ISSUE(ACCEPT): Tried the stock font, still the same. since it is not a big deal it is ok.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] peter4stra:
I've downloaded the *.abi file. But how to flash the device ?
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] kingmabuto:
copy it to an empty formatted microSD card, put the card in the phone, switch it off, press the down arrow on the the d-pad, while pressing it turn on the phone, it will load in bootloader and autoflash it, u will see red progress bar followed by green bar till its finished, then it will boot super quick.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] peter4stra:
Thanks :) I will try it :)
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] kingmabuto:
Before u flash it could u please copy the included segoe.ttf and segoeb.ttf from the \Windows folder and post them here.

Thanks.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] Quazecotl:
I've got some problems with flashing it... I formatted the storage card (16gb) to fat32, at least, thats what the tool on my smartphone said, en copied the *.abi file on my storage card. I restarted my phone as instructed en the boot manager starts but doesn't do anything! It's just doing nothing with the palm logo on the background and some red text above it (something about the version or somwhat).

Could someone plz help? My phone is a Treo 500v

btw, here are the 2 files u requested. peter4stra was just asking the first q for me because i didn't had an account here... :p
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] kingmabuto:
thanks for the font. I am not an expert at flashing that palm, it did work with me the 1st time i flashed it. I will start at looking at a more reliable microSD card and smaller size, fat32 on a 16gb will cause corruption, go for a 2GB, good brand.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] Quazecotl:
The font is 4 the russian charactars i guess? :p Hope it works :). you're welcome :)

Brand of my current is Toshiba. Is it possible to make only one partition on it of 2gb?
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] Quazecotl:
I just found a 512MB card. currently i'm backing up the data and then i'll format it and try again. I'll keep u posted.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] kingmabuto:
Not sure about partitioning microSD card, never tried it or heard of it being possible.

No the font is not for russian, if u read my comments on the ROM, i am having slight issue with the font display for some reason on stock it was better, I am not sure if it is the font or some cleartype changes but i will try the stock font and i will see, probably it is the same exact font. it could be just me seeing things :rolleyes:

Also this ROM have 1 big issue with keyboard mapping of the alternate characters, ther russian and i am trying to get them to be symbols as my hardware keyboard, but no luck all the settings and drivers are correct.

Apart from that it is super, and I mean super FAST.

UPDATE: The fonts didn't make a diffrence. same. could be settings, i will look through that later. anyways this is nothing to be worried about. also not every day i get emails with big bold green in it. only issue is the symbols.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] Quazecotl:
That did it! Used the 512 MB card and flashed it. It booting like a f1 car, and the look and feel is like: AAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWHHHH!!!!!!!! WAAAAAAA!!!!! really cool xD

Thanks for posting this rom!

I don't really have problems with the symbols.. Just press alt and all the symbols just appear as they should be.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] kingmabuto:
Yes indeed superfast, the 1st it booted post flash i was like :confused::confused::confused: :D:D:D a big diffrence from the old overbloated stock 6.0.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] Overloaded:
Is it possible to broadcast your own music over a distance of 10 cm with the TD2??

We have some problems with the radio.. so i want to broadcast my own station :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] JR_de:
Search the internet for "FM transmitter", one example: Belkin TuneCast

You also need a adapter from HTC miniUSB to 3,5mm audio jack.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] Overloaded:
Do you really need to buy something?

Is it not just possible with a program?

I do allready have the converter to 3.5mm jack

So is a seperate transmitter necassary?