yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] everal:
ok, thanks for the information.

i used the nk.exe from this post

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4307125&postcount=31

question:

1. does manila 2.1, touchflo3d or spb mobile shell 3 works on your device (on my device the display is freezed when i push a wrong button)?

if it works without problems please tell me wheather you have changed the complete xip or only the nk.exe or whatever...

the native kernel ist very very good, but i may think about to change the modules through recmode, and hope the problems are less.

which sys modules must be converted to files, for my old devices (eten glofiish m800, x800, x650) where i customized roms, that was ony the following sys packages ?

- browsingcore, browsingie

which sys modules must be converted too for diamond touch p3700 for correct bootphase of windows mobile 6.5 ???

very thanks

everal

thanks for your support...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Hikey:
The nk you using is the same as the one posted at first page.

1 manila and opera9.7 not working.

2 Not need to convert any module to file when you using a wm6.5 nk.exe
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] kidoucorp:
Manila is working well for me with Native NK (GenY.TF3D2.1).

Didn't checked Opera 9.7, but 9.5 seems to work pretty well...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] everal:
thanks for answer hikey.

@kidoucorp

can i have your native kernel?

how i can compare that the display freezed through manilla or spb mobile shell is a problem of the native kernel ?

an other question

i think the nk.exe for the native kernel is buggy today.

wich system-packages must i convert from modules to files if i will use the origin nk.exe without wm6.5 real aku sppport ???

- i think this is browsingcore and browsingie

are there more sys-packages who must changed to files???

very thanks

everal
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] xdmcdmc:
This is what I did:

I took the ROM (build 2009) for Diamond and dump it with ervius kitchen (Pine_Diamond_WM6.5_23009.rar from first post, thank you Hikey).

I kept the ROM and OEM common folder (the drivers) and used OEM 0409 from original ROM. I've added to the kitchen the EXT folder from original ROM and disabled from kitchen the LockStream DRM. Everything is working just fine (Opera Mobile 9.7 and all other programs, including the Sounds settings).

Regards
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] makeveral:
everything works fine here: manila1, opera 9.7, ringtone....

the only bug left is that i cannot slide the unlock button, i'm pretty sure that this problem comes from a driver used with this oemdrivers but wich one :confused:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] swampy395:
hi mate

tap the clock at bottom of screen then it will slide to unlock
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] amarullz:
Graphic Performance

Did anyone experience decreased graphic/3d performance on TF3D if you use this WM6.5 native nk.exe? ( I am use Gen.Y TF3D2.1 ).

I try cook it with 2 different kernels, WM6.1 nk.exe & WM6.5 nk.exe with exacly same packages, and I found significant different in TF3D animation.

But I found it more stable on RAM usages and more faster on running the processes with WM6.5 kernel.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] kidoucorp:
Not sure about what I'm saying right now, but I'm pretty sure that when I tried building a rom with Native Kernel and only a base sys (whitout ANY OEM/EXT package), the problem with lockscreen still happens :(
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] rumbles:
Makeveral, I noticed on your BsB Rom thread you have released a new ROM with 100% working native kernal for WM6.5. Are you going to share? Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :):D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] mike1986.:
I don't think makerval is going to share with anything.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] xdmcdmc:
Guys, it's just simple, I run full working WM6.5 with native kernel as I said in previous post. Just download pine rom, dump it with visual kitchen and use from it the ROM and OEMDrivers folders. Disable from visual kitchen the LockStreamDRM package and build. This is it: Opera 9.7 working, Opera 9.5 working, everything just fine.

BTW I removed from OEMDrivers all HTC debugging tools in order to have more free memory and speed up the phone.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Hikey:
Thank you very much xdmcdmc

I will try to rebuild the rom following your instruction.

thanks
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] empds:
Hi guys,

Could someone please post a mirror of Pine_Diamond_WM6.5_23009.rar but not a rayfile
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lobsterdave:
You can get it here http://www.everythingdiamond.info/showthread.php?t=94
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] bleulin:
but it is not stable...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] swampy395:
It IS :D:D if you port it correctly:D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] marcolero:
How port it correctly??
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] :
Thanks for your help. Appreciated ...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] swampy395:
Ok guy's

A little info to consider

When a nk.exe is compiled it is compiled with it's dependent files:) Most of these are in the OEMDrivers folder, look inside and you'll find lots of files with 2.0.0.0 version;) the nk.exe was made to work with these files If you don't use these files in your port then you will have problems:(

you need to edit boot.rgu see post4 here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=544445 also read from post2 down;)

and use the OS.NB.PAYLOAD from the pine rom;) And if you want to run TF3D then add this to boot.rgu

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\FLASHDRV\FATFS]

"BitmapCacheSize"=dword:00000100 ;256 sectors(256*2048=512KB)

Also Recommend minimum PagePool 8MB

here's a 2.0.0.0 OEM_build you can get the WWE files ETC. This is what i used http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=456905

what you need from it

1) wince.nls from xip "place this in ROM\DIAMOND\23009\OEMXipKernel" Note I built it with 23009 there was some problems with the SYS from pine ROM I reported 23009 Sys, used one from PPCGeeks.

2) OEM_Lang_0409 complete folder, replace OEM_Lang_0804

3) LangDB

4) BuildInfoPkg

5) ControlBlock

and some of the *operator* folders

Also recommend reading Da_G's porting guides

hope this helps

regards

swampy395

Edit You need to port as much of the OEM_Drivers to your language as posible, Chang only the language stuff and it will work fine Good luck

Recommend reading this Too :D http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=521632
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] everal:
hello,

thanks for the touchflo3d tweak and data cache-size tweak to 8 mb

now manila 2.1 (touchflo3d) and (opera 9.7) try to start -> no freezing any more...

but the progs doesn't run...

manila -> try here to start touchflo3d (message on today display in a loop)

opera 9.7 -> the progs hide through the start-phase.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] xdmcdmc:
Hi, I see a lot of people still have trouble setting up the wm6.5 kitchen using pine ROM. Here is it my kitchen:

Diamond WM6.5 kitchen (pine ROM)

Replace my EXT folder with your one (from your existing kitchen) and build it.

Or use the ROM and OEM folders from my own (as you wish).

The only error I had using this kitchen was builing the ROM under Windows XP (it fails with an error, don't know why) but it's working under Windows 7 (and I think Vista too).
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Hikey:
Thank you guys!

I had put your replys to first page of this post.

Thanks again
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] dotcompt:
To fix Windows XP error, open the file "Kitchen_build_ROM.bat" under the TOOLS folder in your Kitchen and search for a line that starts like this:

REM **************** TOOLS\platformrebuilder.exe
if not "%errorlevel%"=="0" goto error

and change to this

REM **************** TOOLS\platformrebuilder.exe
REM **************** if not "%errorlevel%"=="0" goto error

Save it and Cooking with no errors now.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] swampy395:
Hi mate

I'm not a fan of TF3D or opera

I tryed the tf3d from the latest o2 rom for about 10 mins and it seem to work OK ? Found my music ETC on internalstorage and weather updated, I used netcf 2 from pine rom if it helps??,

there is a fixed version of opera 9.7 somewere on this site or PPCGeeks I came across it a week or 2 back:rolleyes:

you could try larger PP, check you patch your pp correctly ? boot.rgu,nk.exe,os.nb.payload read here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=521632

also read somewere something about PP sizes?, recommending steps of 5MB IE: 5mb 10mb 15mb! Not tryed it myself, but search for "best pagepool" an you should find it

regards

swampy395
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] anryl:
23047

i just coocked 23047 base rom from pine BASE and only problem for now is can not create new contacts :confused:

i think we really need new nk.exe

we'r using nk from this c:\wm6530\platform\diamond\

we need nk from this c:\wm65_KK_21234\platform\diamond\

the best the whole oem from KK
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] mike1986.:
You can't add new contact because you have phonecanvas fix. If you remove it from your kitchen everything will be fine.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] anryl:
removed it and all ok lets see the stability off it :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Röchelhilpert:
was somebody crazy enough to cook with native 6.5 kernel and 6.1 OS ?

I works and also manila is running. But Opera dosn´t start
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] anryl:
Now i tested 21054 with native OEM but just4fun its working

anyway who wants to test my OEM her's THE LINK http://rapidshare.com/files/280995427/FINALOEMDIAMOND65_rev1.7z IT IS 0409 and 0405 enjoy its stable

and if u want to move files and modules from xip to imgfs and some boot rgu tweaks use this addon http://rapidshare.com/files/282174993/FINALOEMDIAM65REV1.7z
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] anryl:
NEW

NEW NATIVE KERNEL FOR DIAMOND POSTED by MonkeyBape

http://bbs.rombeta.com/thread-29326-1-1.html :cool:

download the nb0 dump it with ervius kitchen (type flash.nb0) it will create new kitchen for u

use this new kitchen add oem_lang 0409

change in oemxip just wince.nls for wince.nls WWE

insert u SYS and EXT

u can clean up oem drivers

coock :D

HERE THE OEM AND ROM FOR VK
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] l3v5y:
Awesome!

Is this for the GSM Diamond, or the DIAM5000 that the other one appeared to be? (will check it when it has downloaded).

EDIT: Appears to be a DIAM100 one :)

Will test it out now, and report whether it works well tomorrow!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] swampy395:
Thanks mate NICE find:D

Any chance of a mirror for the nb0

rayfile is takeing to long after 1.5 hrs 28% so i quit download

EDIT: It's OK guys I'v got it now 3 hrs :rolleyes:

best regards

swampy395
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Mach2003:
Thanks for this Anryl,

But why so many zero byte files in OEMDrivers?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] amarullz:
great find anryl, thanks... but mirror please :D... :rolleyes:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] anryl:
just delete them i forgot to remove them :D

that are unused files by me and with rec_rev_mode left 0 bytes :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Hikey:
You still need to use original (2.00) oemdriver to use the new nk.exe from Monkey.

Nothing improved.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Röchelhilpert:
Hey anryl, could you please upload the hole stuff to rapidshare or something like this ?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] anryl:
if u check the oemdrivers u will see that they were created with the same platform as the xip wm65060\platform\diamond so they are probably designed for wm65 :confused: :rolleyes: :D :D

seem my sig my speed is ...... no can do :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Röchelhilpert:
Nobody can upload from rayfile ... and mirrow at rapidshare or something like that ?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] anryl:
ok upping to rapid but will take long
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] b4u2:
Will this work for CDMA?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Röchelhilpert:
It will only work for GSM
[G1 Apps and Games] xdothenderson:
well the ESPN widget in the market is pretty bad imo...i was wondering is it possible to get the ESPN widget that comes with the aHome theme?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] scoopex:
All the apps i could not get before on android market now appear and i even paid for bluex. :)

So would i be right in thinking that the Orange custom firmware has blocked certain apps from appearing on the android market place ?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] pagn22:
I hadn't rooted my Orange branded hero , but still was able to purchase Bluex from the market, maybe it was just a certain batch that had the problem of not been able to buy from the market. Then found out it only works with a rooted handset, so having ago at doing that tomorrow.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] J-Zeus:
Scoopex - was it hard to root the Hero - and do you ned a PC ( I'm on Mac ).

Also - did you get BlueX to make Bluetooth fully functional ( IE - Syncing, sending & recieving files )?

cheers

PS - I'm on Orange and I can see BlueX to buy, but I haven't because I read it wont work with non-rooted Hero
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] targaz:
First off I have to say Im a proud member of the best phone produced (till today), Htc Hero. Everything looks and feels and fullfills my needs accordingly, besides one thing. And this one thing bugs me alot.

Why have skype launched this "lite" crap, with no real voip at all? And that on a internett phone... Something is not right at the skype department!

Because of my personal situation Im dependent on skype voip services (the only reason why im not throwing my htc touch cruise away). So heres the request: make my (love)life a bit easier, bite the skype developers in the arse and/or help porting/create a skype client for android that can make full use of voip.

I hope some developers here will take the job and get the well earned fame that will come with it! :)

ps: I do know that there are some alternatives, google voice is not for europe yet and truphone is crashing at the opening.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Volker1:
sipdroid is true VoIP, SIP-based. It will work with a wide variety of hardware and software IP phones.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danchappers:
Hey, from what I can tell this doesnt work with skype, is this the case or am I just being blonde?

Cheers

Dan
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tweedie:
I think skype didn't do a full VOIP application otherwise it will literally chew through many bytes of your data plan and thus would be very expensive for the end user on a mobile network - obviously wifi and skype wouldn't be a such a problem.

I am guessing and assuming that "skype lite" works the similar way to iSkoot (Winmo equivalent) where it uses the voice channel (and some jiggery-pokery) to make a call to another skype user - which to my knowledge is how the 3 network is able to offer unlimited skype calls (using iSkoot, not sure about skype lite but if anyone knows, let me know!)

If skype is listening, perhaps an option in "skype lite" application to specify how the voice is carried out (ie via data channel or the voice channel) might be a good idea.

But feel free to correct me on that!

ps, did anyone see the comments made on skype lite on the market place (by Mattman 9-aug-2009) saying that skype lite appears to be a "phishing app scanning for paid skype accounts and should be reported to google and ftc" - is that true?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Volker1:
It doesn't work with skype since skype is a proprietary app that works with nothing else. Though there is a workaround, gizmo5 has a SIP<->skype gateway. Never tried it, though.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foxmeister:
Essentially, when you initiate a call with Skype Lite, what it does is communicate back to Skype servers on the data channel with details of whom you want to contact (Skype username, phone number etc). The Skype servers then set up a link from a local phone number to your required destination, and send this number back to your phone which Skype Lite then dials.

So your phone essentially calls a Skype phone number over the standard voice channels (and usually consuming your inclusive minutes), and this call is routed over the Skype network to your required destination.

Regards,

Dave
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tweedie:
foxmeister > that is exactly what I am thinking. The "skype lite" software is calling a special number over voice channel and its routed over the skype network to the required destination as you said. I think this is identical to how "iSkoot" works and thus the "three" network users can get free unlimited skype-to-skype calls because it identifies a particular number its calling to be free.

If the "skype lite" and "iSkoot" is calling the same special number, It should in theory be able to get the free unlimited skype-to-skype calls using the "skype lite" application. I guess there is only one way to find out! There does seems to be iSkoot application for android but can't seem to be able to find it on the market place!
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ekeefe41:
http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=343121&pid=1815881&st=0&#entry1815881

Bump that thread

it was a request i made for this same exact thing on the skype forums.

They would be the ones to publish the app.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tweedie:
Skype, iSkoot and three.co.uk

After finally disassembling the code, there is a hidden easter egg on the "about" screen for the iskoot application. If your lucky to have the G1 phone, type in @1905 and it will bring up the advance menu where you can specify to use the three network.

If you're unlucky to have the htc hero (like me!), you have to use the window dos command "adb shell" to connect to the phone, then do "/system/bin/input text @1905" and allow you to enter that key on the about screen.

Its not perfect. But it seems to make a call to the uk three number (+44..882 + +44..874).

Once in the advance menu, put http://mobile.three.co.uk/948 into the url (using keyboard, or use that "input text" command) and save it (I can't remember if I had to tick the "Auto Pilot Mode" on or off, but try with it off first)

It will take a little time to sign in (or even a couple of attempts) you should get your buddy list and able to make a call

By the way, don't have it use the wifi. It seems better to have it sign in via 3g, but I could be wrong. And second, there is an awful lot of http 404 response errors coming back from three network (doesn't seem to effect it), but neverless, its just putting a strain on your phone I would imagine - plus, not sure if those 404 http responses coming back will use up your data allowance. so do some testing first! Its just a little difficult to test properly when all the other apps wants to use you internet data allowance! (is there an app for that?)

Anyway, just letting you know what i have found. if those HTTP 404 is gonna be a problem, I can tweak the code, but probably won't be able to share that apk file as I am not sure where the law stands on that!

Warning: Haven't fully tested it yet, so don't blame/slag me if its starts to eat into your credits!
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ras4life:
works well so far thank:)
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tweedie:
Glad it worked for you. Just keep an eye on your credits. Its kinda hard to do especially when all those apps is trying to use up your internet data allowance too! Wish there was some sort of app that can control what can use the wifi or the mobile internet.

Does your mobile internet icon appear ok or it is it constantly showing both the up/down arrow as white? if so, it might drain your battery a bit quicker because of the streaming internet traffic.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tweedie:
Glad it worked out ok for you. Just keep an eye on your credits which is a bit hard to do since all your other apps wants mobile internet access!

Check your battery level too - if you have both the up/down arrow on the mobile internet constantly on, you might find that it might drain your battery a bit quicker.

I just wish there was an option somewhere (perhaps an app?) that can allow to set what programs can use which method of internet (mobile or wifi)
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lord Lucan:
Hi tweedie, I did as you wrote in post #9, I also noticed that the url was already input so I didnt need to type in. Is it because I already adb pushed .xml document as per iskoot thread in Dream section?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tweedie:
@LordLucan - most probably yes. That easter egg screen reads/writes from that xml file that you pushed.

By the way, I wasn't aware of that xml push method as per dream forum (doh!). When you used skype - did you find that your internet icon (that H icon at the top of the screen) was constantly showing up/down white arrows? And whats your battery life like?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lord Lucan:
@tweedie, Yes H symbol is constantly on. Pity! It would be good if it drops down to 3G. Battery life is about 10 to 12 hrs from full charge on standby with sipdroid also running.It may be little above average since mine is a data sim and not used from normal mobile gsm calls.

Also noted that V 2.51 (Modaco) is fractionally better that early v2.

By the way, have thought about doing same trick on Skype Lite from Market? Its a much lighter client and may be good on data/battery. I have the apk file should you need.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hero-user:
Such an apps exists, it's called Droidwall and is a firewall application which con block or unblock wanted apps from either 3g or WiFi. Sadly it does not work on MoDaCo custom rom right now, but I just registered and will give Paul a note. Seems like there is only one kernel module missing.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tweedie:
@hero-user

thanks for that Droidwall, sounds just the app I needed

@Lord Lucan

thanks for checking. This indicates to me that the xml push method and the easter egg way is both working the same way and both is probably getting a load of HTTP404 error back from 3 network (and possibly shortening its battery life).

Its possible that skype lite might have some configuration files that can be set to make it call a "3 network" number, but I doubt it would work.

I am guessing that iSkoot makes a url request to 3 network (a custom iskoot server perhaps?) to sign in, get messages, makes calls, etc. And when you make a skype call, it tells that iSkoot server (not skype) that you are making a call to X and prepares a call. Your phone will then make a voice call to that special skype-to-skype number and because its prepared (and somehow knows its you) it directs your voice to the skype at the other end. Again, its just a guess work from the traffic I've been looking at from iSkoot on winmo devices.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lord Lucan:
Hi Tweedie, Thanks.

Just a thought. 3 Australia have been marketing HTC Magic and I wonder if users there had skype client on their handset.

Early on I phoned 3 and an advisor said there will be a skype client on Hero but I think he didnt know what he was talking about!!!:D
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adityasen:
I'm with 3 Australia with the Magic and can confirm that there was no Skype app installed on the handset.

Using the steps mentioned here I've managed to get skype running over x-series, but still can't make SkypeOUT calls tho - only Skype to Skype.