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[G1 Apps and Games] Ssantos6981:
My main problem with this app is the laaag. Is it me or does it usually take a seconds for your selection to register. After a few minutes of the app open it speeds up a bit, but not like it should.

Anyone else have that problem?

Telenav works great, just that it is 10 bux a month and doesn't have offline maps. Not everywhere I drive has 3g, or even Edge for that matter.
[G1 Apps and Games] Hellek:
When it is slow, your phone is likely to be out of RAM. Try uninstalling apps that run in the background + widgets.

If you use Cyanogen you could try activating swap and disabling "home app in memory" in Spare Parts.
[G1 Apps and Games] Erikbronx:
As Zender stated... Check the settings/date region. It took me a month after purchasing Co-Pilot to get the software to find the map. I re-downloaded the map multiple times not knowing why Co-Pilot want picking up the installed map file. Sucked big time.
[G1 Apps and Games] impulsek2:
anyone having problems with the last 2 updates?

with the latest update i got today copilot wont even start just a black screen.

I tried to uninstall and reinstall but same thing. The update before it would just shutdown randomly. anyone got any ideas?
[G1 Apps and Games] zender2k:
Did you install the google maps navigation hack?The build.prop from sholes will mess up copilot.
[G1 Apps and Games] wooyeom:
Copilot and Google Nav

Is there any way to install the google nav hack and not disturb copilot? With a new $35 update available from Copilot since yesterday, I'm regretting having purchased this app.
[G1 Apps and Games] zender2k:
Yes.Don't replace the original built.prop/built.trout.prop files!You only need to edit one line to built.trout.prop:

replace ro.build.fingerprint line

with: ro.build.fingerprint=verizon/voles/sholes/sholes:2.0/ESD20/17572:user/ota-rel-keys,release-keys

All of your app will be working, and have google navigation.
[G1 Apps and Games] impulsek2:
Worked Great thanks
[G1 Apps and Games] tf442:
I have been so busy trying out Sprint navigation and Google navigation, I haven't used Co-Pilot for awhile. When did I get announcing of street names?

Noticed a review today and saw something about text to speech. Used Co-Pilot on the way home and it worked great. Street names and other improvements that made Co-Pilot just seem better.
[G1 Apps and Games] Gilliland12:
I've got a problem with Copilot becoming unusable after about a week. I know what the problem is, just not how to fix it.

I have two G1's on my account (two separate numbers, one for me, one for my wife). We both use the same home email address and both of our phones are logged in as that one. Obvious benefit is we can both access the email from either phone, unintended benefit is we can both download paid apps for two phones for the price of one.

Problem is that Copilot must be checking something and after the 10 day period is up it stops working on one phone or the other. It says the checkout number is invalid.

Anyone have any ideas? Aside from purchasing it again (which I'm not even sure how to do) to get another checkout number.
[G1 Apps and Games] SoTacMatt:
How do you activate that? I checked my version, and it didn't speak street names.
[G1 Apps and Games] eklipz3:
not sure if you got your answer but you have to place your maps in your save folder.
[G1 Apps and Games] PsychoPomp:
Me as well, I just used it yesterday, and no streetnames.
[G1 Apps and Games] tf442:
First, I think you have to have androd.1.6. I have Dwangs 1.6 ROM on my G1. Under "Language & Voice" I chose English and pressed okay. Under the voice options there was another selection "*PICO* eng-usa". Selecting this option and pressing "test" you will hear "this is a test for text to speech. Then when I used Co-Pilot I was getting spoken street names.
[G1 Apps and Games] w_yang:
Contact support and tell them that you got a new phone. They'll reset the IMEI and you'll be able to use that order number. Copilot maps each purchase number to an IMEI by default, probably to stop piracy.
[G1 Apps and Games] w_yang:
First, make sure your device is 1.6 or higher. Then make sure that you have the Android TTS voices downloaded (Settings -> Speech synthesis -> Install voice data).

Then, in copilot, go to Settings -> Language and voice. TTS will be available in the languages you've installed TTS for on the device.
[G1 Apps and Games] Gilliland12:
Won't that just make it so that it will only work on one phone again? I'd like it to work on both.
[G1 Apps and Games] Ineedtoys:
CoPilot have only ever allowed one device at a time to be activated under their licence (irrespective of platform). To switch you have to deactivate the old device first.
[G1 Apps and Games] tf442:
Discount price

Just saw the CoPilot is $19.99 this weekend. If you don't have it you should get it. It has improved quite a bit since I bought it when it first came out.
[G1 Apps and Games] obe1:
is this better then google maps navigation.
[G1 Apps and Games] Henchman:
The advantage is, that if you travel abroad, you can use co-pilot, and won't get hit with major data charges.
[G1 Apps and Games] w_yang:
CoPilot doesn't need a data connection, so if you're in the middle of nowhere with no data, or you forgot to pay your data bill, you'll be ok.
[G1 Apps and Games] Erikbronx:
Can someone please email me a legal copy of the Co-pilot apk file. For some reason I get a error when trying to download it from market. I already paid for this app... However since I wiped and switch roms (SuperD) I get error., same error with CyanogenMod rom too.

I just want the trial legal file. I already have my registration info. Please help. Thanks.
[G1 Apps and Games] 1024k:
Some issue for me.

Payed, uninstalled months ago, now i want to install it again (after flashed superd) but can't download.
[G1 Apps and Games] Erikbronx:
I had the same issue. However, when I switched to the latest CyanogenMod I was finally able to download it through market. If u want, pm me your email and ill send u the apk file I backed up.
[G1 Apps and Games] 1024k:
Thanks!

I sent you a pm.
[G1 Apps and Games] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Hope you're not having the same problem some of us who use CoPilot on the HD2 are having. Seems the Windows Mobile 6.x version, which requires reactivation after a ROM flash since you have to reinstall, has a "limit" on the number of times it can be activated.

Does tha Android version of CoPilot require "activation" of the maps after an Android ROM flash?
[G1 Apps and Games] turboyo:
Is it alright to uplaod the US map? I need an upload as the central wont install on my PC.. what a headache
[G1 Apps and Games] Manacit:
Us linux users are left in the cold, the app doesn't run in wine...
[G1 Apps and Games] JanetPanic:
VMware works wonders. Does your phone reboot when you try and DL maps directly too?
[G1 Apps and Games] Manacit:
I'd rather not install virtualbox and hunt down a windows disc and go through all that, last time I tried downloading it directly on the phone it got to 100mb downloaded then told me it failed. I'll try again, hopefully I can get it without setting vbox up..
[G1 Apps and Games] SoTacMatt:
Finally have it working, but it shows under "Licensing" Evaluation (9 days left)

Evaluation? Anyone else get that?
[G1 Apps and Games] athurdent:
bought it here in germany and have to enter the 15 digit google order number as license. getting error 708 and can´t even run the software now. german support can´t help, they don´t know about the product yet. the nice guy told me it got released to the market by accident too soon...
[G1 Apps and Games] metil1971:
I also have this problem and havent had anyone from Alk answer my emails yet :confused:
[G1 Apps and Games] MontAlbert:
got word via their twitter page that the Australian version will be available next month!
[G1 Apps and Games] tf442:
I can only get to the title page of the app and then it quits. I am running the ION ROM on my G1. Is anyone who downloaded CoPilot Live running anything besides the standard Android 1.5?
[G1 Apps and Games] volmarias:
tf442, can you please post a DDMS log dump? I've personally tested this on t4c's 0.6 on my G1, as well as a normal google ION.
[G1 Apps and Games] athurdent:
thanks for your explanations!

but as i already bought it, what exactly do you mean by try again?
[G1 Apps and Games] volmarias:
Try running CoPilot again, entering your order number, creating your single signon, etc. Please let me know what stage you get stuck at, if any.
[G1 Apps and Games] tf442:
Sorry, don't know how to do a DDMS log dump. I just tried to do a search on DDMS, but didn't find the information on how to do it. I am at work now, so if I need to install something on the PC, I will have to wait until tonight when I get home.

Thanks for trying to help. I have a ticket opened up with ALK.

Tim
[G1 Apps and Games] SoTacMatt:
@volmarias

Thank you for coming in and helping clear this up!
[G1 Apps and Games] volmarias:
This is part of the android SDK. You can get it from http://developer.android.com/sdk/1.5_r2/index.html . I can't really walk you through installing it, but the instructions are very thorough. You don't need to set this up with eclipse; really all you'll need to do is

1) On your phone, go to settings -> applications -> development and ensure that "USB Debugging" is checked.

2) Once you unzipped the sdk, run ddms.bat in the tools. There might be a step you have to perform before you do this, but I do not recall it offhand.

Once ddms is running, click on the icon for your device; it will say HT1890571923871 or something. The log tab at the bottom should start populating. This is the log that apps on your phone write to for developers! You'll see some lines like:

06-29 11:08:25.857: INFO/ActivityManager(63): Starting activity: Intent { action=android.intent.action.MAIN categories={android.intent.category.HOME} flags=0x10200000 comp={com.android.launcher/com.android.launcher.Launcher} }

06-29 11:08:27.197: INFO/ActivityManager(63): Starting activity: Intent { action=android.intent.action.MAIN categories={android.intent.category.LAUNCHER} flags=0x10200000 comp={com.alk.copilot.marketplace.na.full/com.alk.copilot.Copilot} }

06-29 11:08:27.267: INFO/ActivityManager(63): Start proc com.alk.copilot.marketplace.na.full for activity com.alk.copilot.marketplace.na.full/com.alk.copilot.Copilot: pid=2191 uid=10039 gids={3003}

06-29 11:08:27.317: INFO/jdwp(2191): received file descriptor 11 from ADB

06-29 11:08:28.587: VERBOSE/CommonCopilotActivity(2191): Copilot onCreate

06-29 11:08:28.607: DEBUG/LocationManager(2191): Constructor: service = android.location.ILocationManager$Stub$Proxy@438167e0

06-29 11:08:28.717: VERBOSE/CoPilot(2191): onCreate

06-29 11:08:28.777: VERBOSE/CoPilot(2191): onStart

Anything that shows up in red, or that looks like a core dump after you start up will be a help to us.

You guys are the bleeding edge and pretty vocal too. Every problem that gets voiced on this forum is probably experienced by 100 other users who will say nothing, but refund us silently. We're already looking at the NA full download problem (cutting off at 1GB) and going to see if we can fix it asap.

Edit: For those of you who are having trouble downloading the 1.07GB full NA file, are your SD cards formatted FAT32?
[G1 Apps and Games] athurdent:
just tried: deleted the copilot folder from sd. entered order number, entered email / passwd (the account already got created the first time, i got a confirmation mail for it.), shows error 708. translated from german: error creating activation code for the entered product key, please contact support. shall i try with an other mailaddress?
[G1 Apps and Games] volmarias:
Are you trying to enter the product key that you got in an email anywhere by any chance? Please ignore that email; those aren't supposed to be sent.

Error 708 refers to invalid product key. This is quite possibly something on our end, but you should only be getting that if you're attempting to enter a product key. You mentioned that you have a support ticket already, correct?
[G1 Apps and Games] lbcoder:
One issue I am having...

When entering an address, you have the keyboard lined up lexicographically rather than using a proper QWERTY keyboard layout. This makes it EXTREMELY difficult to find the letters I want to enter. Good thing I have a Dream with a hardware keyboard, but it is inconvenient to rip it out to enter a 5-character street name. Is there any way to switch to a proper key layout as, for example, tomtom has? Or if not is there any plan to add one? It would also be nice to have the comma key and numbers on the same screen as the letters like the standard landscape-mode virtual keyboard. Any reason you aren't using the built-in virtual keyboard?
[G1 Apps and Games] athurdent:
i am entering my 15 digit google order number, didn´t get any mail apart from that. yes, i already called german support this morning, so i should have a support ticket.
[G1 Apps and Games] Lamar720:
This thing works great, I could not download the usa so I opted for my state and it seems to work pretty good, how ever I would suggest making the ability to search different cities without a zip code or the name of the city when using POI. And the ability to type in the address numbers and street name on the same form.

For ex. "Not" zip or city/ then street name/ then house address numbers

But, moreso, zip or city / house address numbers and street name in one tab
[G1 Apps and Games] volmarias:
Sorry that you're having trouble with this. There's a long story behind this but I'd rather not put it out in the public. Please remember that our product runs on many different device types (winmobile, etc), including devices without built in onscreen keyboards.

I'm glad that you're enjoying this, even if you're unable to download the full NA dataset right now.

As far as typing the entire address on one line, consider this a "known issue" :)
[G1 Apps and Games] lbcoder:
It still makes sense, even if you insist of your own proprietary keyboard, to use a standard layout. I would imagine that winmo users would also have the same problem with it... unless you're targeting the product exclusively at people who have never learned to type.... ??
[G1 Apps and Games] dpgc213:
I cant seem to download the uk and ireland full map, but i can download them all seperatley which is very annoying as ill have to switch maps each time i travel. Is this a problem on your side or mine?

cheers
[G1 Apps and Games] volmarias:
This wasn't my decision to make. I'd rather stick to technical problems that people are having, rather than design issues that I have no control over, if you don't mind.
[G1 Apps and Games] JanetPanic:
Yes I set it to auto and then started walking home. After a block the location still showed me as at my office. I then switched mode to walking and it followed my position. I noticed the lock when I was walking and panned the map around but did not notice it when in auto mode. I will check again tonight on my way home. I was walking so I am not sure if that was the problem. I probably won't drive again until this weekend but will try it in auto mode then.

Most of the problems I have had up to now have been related to copilot central:

1) Downloads do not seem to work, or if they do they do not show up as available thus necessitating a manual copy.

2) Other than Maps none of the options in the store seem to have any options available. I am not sure if this is just because the Android port is so new or if there is a problem.

3) Linux support would be nice but I can understand the decision.

4) Loading of Maps really could be more intuitive. I am a programmer as well as a Linux user so I am not afraid of poking around but I do not think a normal user could have gotten maps installed without help. Hopefully once the download glitch is resolved this will clear up as well.

All told though the app actually looks and behaves pretty well once you get everything going.

Finally, I just wanted to echo the thanks that others have given you for coming onto the forums to answer our questions. It really means a lot to me at least and helps give me confidence in my decision to keep the app.
[G1 Apps and Games] volmarias:
I've been assured that this very option was tested, but I'll try it again for you in case something has changed. Can you tell me what error you are getting? Are you told that you are not licensed? Do you get an error downloading? Does it happen halfway through?

JanetPanic: It is actually probable that this is due to you walking. Walking mode handles position updating differently than other modes, in that we may not update you in other modes if you do not appear to have any velocity in your GPS fix. You can try jogging or running for a few seconds when it is safe for you to do so, and then seeing what happens, but if you are walking you should definitely be using walking mode :)

I will pass your problems along to the Central team, but before I do, would you mind elaborating on #1 a little more? What do you mean exactly by "downloads do not work" ? Nothing downloads? Downloads happen but they are not placed onto your device? You are told you are not licensed for your requested region?
[G1 Apps and Games] aagvain:
my 10 day evaluation has just disappeared from the licensing section of copilot.......as volmarias stated it would
[G1 Apps and Games] drak0:
I finally got everything to work. I had to use the desktop app to download the maps to the phone (which took FOREVER). After that, I had to select NorthAmerica under the DataSource section of the CoPilot settings... ugh... talk about not very obvious.

Anyway, my brief test drive to work this AM was pretty promising. I forced a reroute and it was fast and accurate.

I'm glad someone finally came out with a good (offline) GPS app... thanks copilot! This is actually worth the $35 IMO.

volmarias,

You said that the 10 day license will go away soon... that's good. How long is this license valid for? Forever? 1 Year?

Thanks!
[G1 Apps and Games] aagvain:
not to speak for janetpanic but the issue i observed was that once copilot central finished downloading the map file it wouldnt recognize that i had a map on my pc
[G1 Apps and Games] lbcoder:
Then perhaps you could forward this to someone who *does* have control over design decisions?
[G1 Apps and Games] lbcoder:
How do you delete a map once it has been downloaded? Lets say that one has installed Canada and then all of north-america, which includes Canada. It is also separated on the SDCARD -- there is a Canada path as well as a north-america path. Can the redundant path simply be deleted? How would that propagate to the program? Is there a hidden function somewhere in the program to delete maps? It appears in the menus that you can select either Canada by itself or all of north-america, so it would seem that there are TWO copies of the Canada map. I have looked through the map downloader, but it seems that it just tries to download a second time (unsuccessfully).
[G1 Apps and Games] laurynhill:
The license does not expire. It's forever. Map upgrades will cost you though.
[G1 Apps and Games] JanetPanic:
That is correct.

1) Start download

2) At approximately 94% the download stops with no success or failure message. Since the download does not appear in the maps section of the application and does not transfer to the phone it gives all appearances of a failed download.

3) Manually copying the download over to my phone allowed it to extract so I have to assume that the file download actually completed but I am not certain.

At a minimum I would suggest a modal window with a success/failure message. Of course having the map listed in copilot central so it could be transferred would be nice as well.
[G1 Apps and Games] anthonws:
Hello to all,

Finally a turn-by-turn app for Android! CoPilot beated NDrive release schedule :P heheh

The installation was very easy, I downloaded Iberia map and can confirm that everything is running great!!

Nice 3D view, nice menu flows, hide option, update option, my street name is there, a load of nice customization options, etc, etc.

This was the only thing that was missing in my Android!!

Thanks!
[G1 Apps and Games] sandshrimp:
Being Charged for Maps

So I purchased this on Market, I decided to download the map on my PC, but CoPilot Central (desktop application) is charging me $35 again for the map download.

Anyone experience this?
[G1 Apps and Games] volmarias:
There is no function that can delete maps inside of copilot. CoPilot will determine what datasets existing by scanning its directory, so yes, you can remove the Canada directory and it will no longer show up. You might want to try just moving it elsewhere on the sdcard, first, to ensure that you're not removing the wrong thing.

Thank you very much for reporting this. I have forwarded this to the Central team and hopefully this should be solved in the very near future. This is definitely not the intended behavior.

You need to have your device connected to your computer and in USB Mass Storage mode, then start Central. Central will discover the copilot information and handle your licensing appropriately; the North America maps should end up with a download button instead of purchasing information. If you continue to have trouble, please open a tick with ALK Support.

To everyone else, I may not reply, but we do read your comments. Thank you very much for your words of support and encouragement, they mean a lot to us :)
[G1 Apps and Games] tf442:
Volmarias,

Guess I am doing something wrong. I downloaded the sdk. Ran DDMS and my phone doesn't show up. I mounted my phone, I can see in windows explorer that the PC sees my phone. I have USB debugging checked, but DDMS doesn't show my phone. I plugged and unplugged the phone, looked at every thread I could find and nothing. I think I will download the standard Android 1.5 Rom and see if it works then.
[G1 Apps and Games] sandshrimp:
This is working. This forum is better than the CoPilot support site. I even spoke to a support person at CoPilot and they told me their server screwed up and did not link my google account with theirs.

Thanks
[G1 Apps and Games] JanetPanic:
It is working for the few of us here but it is a stopgap. In a project of that size and magnitude the developers need to be able to track the problem tickets and resolutions in their system. I truly am grateful a representative came by and opened communications with us, and hopefully he will be able to help a little in the future as well. But the reality is Alk needs to be able to track this stuff.
[G1 Apps and Games] sandshrimp:
Outdated Maps

I finally got CoPilot to recognize the map and took it for a test run. The NA map (or at least Florida) is so out of date. There are missing streets everywhere. The street down the block from me that has been there for 11 years is missing. My test trip to the mall took me to a closed development, which I had to exit (I thought maybe it knew some secret way....nah). The lack of streets and the poor routing made it inferior to my stand alone GPS. I prefer Google Maps at this point because at least I get good directions and updated streets.
[G1 Apps and Games] stevenyu24:
Does anyone know where I can download the application, so far I can't find it in the Market (I am in Australia), and the 2D barcode on http://www.alk.eu.com/copilot/android/ doesn't work for me either....
[G1 Apps and Games] MontAlbert:
aussie version not available yet mate.
[G1 Apps and Games] estecman:
Safety Camera warnings

So I too have a full licensed version now the 10 day evaluation message has now gone.

Took it on the road yesterday and I am quite impressed, very similar to TOMTOM, worked without a hitch.

Has anybody got the safety camera warnings working yet????????????