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[Touch CDMA Android Development] mcfarlan:
This build is very stable on my AT&T Tilt. So far I have only enabled WiFi and Internet connections are good. Calls are also coming through without going to voicemail. It wouldn't load with the 256MB data.img though. I had to let it create its own and it took about 20 minutes to completely load. I had one "Force Close" the very first time I tried to add a widget but since then it has been very stable; slow as usual, but stable.:D I used it with the basefiles from 0919 V2, set the screen to 320 x 480 x 160 (would not load with any other settings) and added the renice.txt from google_ion_091209_audiofix_091409. I may try again with the 256 data.img when I have the time to just let the phone sit for an extended period until it either boots or doesn't. But not too keen to mess with a good thing right now...:)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jaredakelly:
wow i just tried your files and i'm still getting the system not mounting error :confused: :confused:
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
re-download you got a corrupt file:(

EDIT: if anyone is having trouble getting music and albums to read off of the sdcard like i did lol, use the media scanner in the dev tools it worked
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
I would re download all your files and try again.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
just a few notes:

- you don't need the renice.txt. that file is not used. the renice script is included in the user.init script already. It runs if you set it in your hero.user.conf file. (on by default)

- the 20090919-V2 basefiles already create a 256MB data.img...

this build is noticeably faster than previous hero builds :)

just let it "settle down" for a bit...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Link9228:
Well... it boots now... but the only thing that works is the lock screen. When I flick the lock screen away... I am left with the htc logo and nothing else.

Also, thank you very much for the files.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mcfarlan:
OK thanks. Hasn't speeded up yet, but I am impressed by the stability...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
leave it be for like 10 min it is loading:) glad you got it to boot
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Link9228:
Thank you! I haven't been able to use any of the newer hero builds! All of the ones that I could use have since been taken down from the vogue-hero downloads (The second to last .img that was uploaded was the last one that worked for me, sometime in August, I think it was)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jaredakelly:
yeah i hit a brick wall. just re-downloaded everything with no luck. i dont know what to do.

do you rename the system file to system.img or system.sqsh ?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
system.sqsh
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
to be clear, all the newest builds work on vogue and kaiser for sure with the lastest basefiles. They are always tested before they are released.

they also work on polaris and nike (with some limitations) from what is reported by owners of those devices.

when something goes wrong, it's usually fixed very rapidly.

so, if some build doesn't work, it's usually the users fault ;)

no criticism intended.

There seem to be 2 variables that can affect this nonetheless:

- different WM roms. (some users have reported "less compatible" roms.)

- different default.txt settings.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jaredakelly:
yeah i did that....obviously i'm doing something wrong but i can't figure out what. frustrating
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
lucky for you mine still rings to vm:(

EDIT:if it is asleep it rings on 2nd or third ring:),but if it isnt asleep and im using it, it doesnt ring
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Link9228:
I know that it's user error, but I haven't been able to figure out the problem... maybe NFSFAN's rom? Also... I had it running, and then I selected a language, and it rebooted on me. Is it supposed to do that? (it's taking a very long time to reboot).
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
change the ringtone to something small (a good one is "bell phone")

disable vibration on incoming call

this helps.

but sometimes, something's wrong with the phone connection and it simply will not ring and goes straight into voicemail.

put it in airplane mode and off again. that usually solves it. (ril quirks, I suppose).
[Touch CDMA Android Development] artvandelay7:
Have you checked the size of your system.sqsh file? I got the same error you got, then realized I had downloaded it three different times using Chrome and I was never able to download beyond 25mb, but the site in google code says it should weight 61mb. I tried downloading it with explorer, it downloaded the whole file and then I was able to boot it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] arleybarros:
this is the best hero i tried so far...

all the 7 screens with htc widgets and still smooth (including photo album and music widgets)

sms works

data connection works

no force close

Portuguese-BR works :D

______________________

5 seconds before incomming call aperar

bluetooth doesn't work

make call freeze touchscreen (vibrate)

sound is very slow

strange gsm behaviors (MMI)

______________________

THANKS A LOT
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
no, its not suppose to reboot after that... but things can go wrong, I suppose... try to let it boot...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jaredakelly:
good call! i'm re-downloading right now (crosses fingers)

why would chrome do this? i've never had a problem downloading anything before
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
it flashes the boot logo after setup is done but it shouldn't right after you select language because there are a couple more setup screens to go through.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
- try a smaller ringtone (ex: "bell phone")

- wasn't there a setting somewhere to disable vibration on call begin/end? (perhaps not)

- are you using the zImage with "fixed" audio?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] arleybarros:
- i'll try a smaller ringtone

- All the other vibration are disabled. this is the only one i never found.

- no, i'm using the default zImage

THANKS
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
Since bluetooth is not working, you might as well use the zImage with "fixed" audio.

The only difference in that kernel is that it reverses the last changes related to getting bluetooth working. Those have an impact on audio...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
just my $0.02

i think that the phone is recognizing the call early as it shuts of 3g and data during 2nd ring it just takes forever for the phone app to come up. how big is the phone.apk or whatever it is(can it be optimized?)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] KERKEDAGAIN:
So it's been said to wait 'like 10 minutes'..what does it mean when i've waited for 20+??

User error..i know..:(

*edit- ended up just powering off, deleting fscks (is anyone else getting a bunch created/why??), and rebooting. It brought the language page up in about 1 minute...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
yes the fsck000.rec files have been discussed it is something to do with the file system checker finding a small bug or something. nothing major that should hinder performance. just delete them
[Touch CDMA Android Development] KERKEDAGAIN:
cool bees o' the trees..thanx
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
im using bell phone, no vibration on ring, with fixed audio zimage, i get a ring right before it goes to vmail. i dont see what is the big difference between the ion and hero builds with call responsiveness (same kernal, zimage, initrd). it must be a system thing, im still going with the phone.apk is too clunky
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
yes there are other issues.

fyi, this is a HERO issue. It happens on other devices, not just on vogue...

the renicer helps, so do other small things, but no definitive solution has been found.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
is this the current renice script

#!/bin/sh
while [ 1 ]
do
renice -20 `pidof com.android.mms`
renice -19 `pidof com.android.phone`
renice -18 `pidof mediaserver`
renice 0 `pidof com.google.process.gapps`
sleep 500
done

since i dont use mms(dont even think mms works on hero never-the-less) should i change this to

#!/bin/sh
while [ 1 ]
do
renice -20 `pidof com.android.phone`
renice -19 `pidof com.android.mms`
renice -18 `pidof mediaserver`
renice 0 `pidof com.google.process.gapps`
sleep 500
done

or even

#!/bin/sh
while [ 1 ]
do
renice -20 `pidof com.android.phone`
renice -19 `pidof mediaserver`
renice 0 `pidof com.google.process.gapps`
sleep 500
done
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
well sms is part of mms so if you want to get your sms faster you need to keep it in there. If you don't care about sms then it's up to you.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
thanks for the quick response zen, im not a big sms or mms user so they are out. it isnt saying that i wont get them right? just that it might be like ten years before i do :p

also having a problem with rosie reloading every time i go home, any ideas, thanks!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
the renice script is embedded in the userinit script in rootfs.img.

its not user editable atm.

at the moment it sets the following priorities:

renice -18 `pidof com.android.mms`
renice 5 `pidof com.google.process.gapps`
renice -18 `pidof com.android.phone`
renice -18 `pidof android.process.media`
renice -18 `pidof mediaserver`
renice -16 `pidof com.htc.launcher`
renice -15 `pidof com.htc.music`

the com.android.mms process is responsible for all messaging, not mms messages.

changing that will not bring you benefits since these processes don't fight for the cpu between them when receiving a call...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] natefish:
Me too. All settings are correct. I am using NFSFAN's rom and I do think it may have some compatibility issues with all this android stuff. I know he does a crazy amount of optimizations.

I do know that a blank data.img has worked before, so if Dr. Z or someone wouldn't mind uploading one, I would be much obliged.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
No, whatever windows rom your running is long shutdown before android loads.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] arleybarros:
i did it so much times that do not seems so long anymore...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
like i told him let it be for like ten minutes it is loading if it is on htc screen;)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
let it load it still takes a while.....the lock screen will come up but everything is still loading
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
it does take a while. mine sat for about 40min with only the lock screen, just when I was about to lose faith, it loaded up the setup screen.

my hero launcher kept re-launching, whenever I tried to load a widget like a clock; flip clock never showed up, don't know if it kept trying to load then would cause the launcher to reboot. rebooted, same thing. it's definitely the fastest yet. i'm not motivated enough to fix it or rebuild my data.img. waiting for more donut . . .
[Touch CDMA Android Development] arleybarros:
just take the time it takes to boot completely, HERE lasts about 4 minutes.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
every time i go home rosie reloads :-/
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
what widgets are you using?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
reboot. it will stop happening.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
ok thanks, would using a swapfile have anything to do with it swapfile=32 with swappiness=15
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
don't think so.

also happened to me the first time I booted, and I has using the default settings.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] arleybarros:
someone managed to disable that little vibration when you make a call?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
^i do remember there being a setting too but i cant find it for the life of me :(

secondly i have rebooted this latest build 5-6 time and it still keeps reloading rosie when i go home. i dont know if it is just me or is anyone else experiencing this

(losing faith in hero gaining faith in tattoo :))
[Touch CDMA Android Development] loserskater:
Not sure if this is right, but this is just off of memory... Settings>Call Settings>Uncheck Vibrate on answer
[Touch CDMA Android Development] arleybarros:
on answer is ok.

the problem "was" on MAKE a call.

when the other phone answer there's a little vibration.

but i think there's a solution comming up... ;)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] loserskater:
Isnt that what vibrate on answer means? when the other person answers? If not it should be one of those options above/below that. unless vibrate on answer means both when you answer and when the other end answers (depending on if you're dialing or receiving a call)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] garringm:
rosie kept reloading for me as well, I only put browser shortcut n home sreen. I tried playing with user file but nothing helped. I was finally able to get it to build a data.img on it own ater about 5 reboots.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] arleybarros:
i think if was possible to put advertise in the google code pages ZEN was billionaire by now.

:D
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
or in his case, a ZENlionair :eek:
[Touch CDMA Android Development] skajaqueda:
Is anyone having an issue moving icons on the home screen around? I have never had this issue in any of the other releases (cupcake, hero, donut, etc...). I loaded the micro hero yesterday and the v2 basefiles, and it looked like everything loaded properly. Calls answered very promptly. I just cannot move any icons around. When I press and hold on the icon, it usually just launches the application. Occasionally, it will vibrate, like it wants to let me move the icon, but it just drops the icon back down where it was. I deleted my data file and recreated it again this morning, with the same result. Anyone else having this issue, or is it just me? Any ideas what I can try to remedy this?

Thanks.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] arleybarros:
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!

Sent you a PM!!!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] arleybarros:
same thing in here...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] garynsa:
Well said..............
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
i was having this issue until i stopped using stiles and used my finger. not my finger nail or tip but my finger. the more finger you put on the widget the better it moved for me.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] skajaqueda:
I only use my finger. But I did try the stylus and my nail, but none of the three worked for me. I was able to move an icon twice, but I have since gone back to mssmison's latest cupcake/rogers build. At least until I can figure out what is going on.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] skola28:
Phone Stalls

Something I have noticed affecting all builds. When the phone switches between any of the following 'network' states, there is about a 10 second lag in the SW.

No Service

2G

3G

No Data Connection

I'm guessing this has to do with how the calls are being handled from the radio; perhaps the system is waiting for a confirmation from the radio as it indicates a change in the network. That stall is VERY apparent when you live/work around areas where there is poor cell reception, or perhaps poor 3G reception since the phone will constantly be changing network state. I'm not sure if this is something that must be fixed in the Kernel (seems that way).

For reference, I am using an AT&T TILT (KAIS100) on AT&T in the US (GSM Network).
[Touch CDMA Android Development] arleybarros:
I noticed a strange behavior in GSM networks because it seems to me the VOGUE is a CDMA device.

example: when I try to check the balance (*544 #) returns an error message (MMI)

EDIT: once somebody uploaded a system (or kernel) that was more compatible with GSM networks but i did'nt keep it.

messed up english...

sorry
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kulen:
I installed a fresh micro hero and newest basefiles.

I can connect to wifi. phone says it's connected and AP says phone is connected. but anything works. I can't ping phone from comp in the same network. and I can't connect to anything with phone.

any ideas?

P.S. it's great build. but a little slow. hope tattoo fixes that.

great work. Thanks
[Touch CDMA Android Development] CYDVicious:
So with all the user.conf, how do we specific which one to use? Do we rename the one we want to user.conf? Or is it called out in some other startup script?

~CYD
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
just put all of them in the sdcard as instructed. the correct one will be automatically selected according to the build type you are launching.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
did you calibrate your screen?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tallnerd1985:
speaking out that, where is the screen caliration too at?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] xxbabiboi228xx:
You have to rename the file .txt to open it up as a text file and enable linux swap swappiness or ccbacking swap.or the file will be useless just sitting on you sd card.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
I uploaded a nano-hero to vogue hero. It has a new 586KB rosie.apk from drizzys latest.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
the htc magic/sapphire now has sense ui.....http://www.htc.com/br/product/htc-magic/specification.html
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
Thanks zen, running smooth. witch one do you reccomend i use? The micro build runs good too. Is there anything better on this build? i noticed that the new one is no longer featured on the google page. is there a problem you noticed with it?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
nano seems a little better. it as more apps that are useful for the vogue. the calibrate.apk, propaint camera, modem. I removed the htc camera and replaced the rosie.apk as it was causing reload problems for some people. it's back up on the page now. i took it down for a while so i could test it some more but is seems pretty good to me. i'll upload a zip with the wallpapers and ring tones later on.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
i cant get it to find photos on the sd card. had this problem before but it fixed itself but this time its not fixing itself and ive rebooted a few times.

also seems to have to reload touchflo more often. so far
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
you should have just used the same data.img and i have a verizon vogue and it's showing all my photos and playing music from the sdcard with a fresh data.img so i don't know what the problem is there. also do you have a hero.user.conf with compcache turned on? i've never had rosie reload at all and it's be running since i before i put it up earlier today. maybe try the media scanner trick in devtools?

i see the actual albums.apk isn't showing the pictures when you try to select a folder? it's doing it to me.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
i dont know how to turn on the compcache. also i cant get it to find wallpapers or music through the music widget. im using the latest basefiles and created a new data.img. rosie is not reloading anymore. it was just in the beginning. scratch that it did it again just now when i tapped music widget. i have quite a few files in the androidapps folder from what you uploaded. what should i not have in there? i saw a rosie.apk in there and moved it out. does this have anything to do with it? what else should i move out of there? i still have the old data.img i can switch it out
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
clear all those apps out of the androidapps folder or rename the folder. thats most likely whats giving you the slow down and reloading especially if you have another rosie.apk in there..then start fresh with the nano hero. if you want to install programs from your sdcard i included es file explorer so you can browse your sdcard and install from there.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
thanks man, i was just on the verge of doing that and i appreciate the quick replies.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
it's all good...i'm bored anyway.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] marcjc:
in regards to compcache, does it buy you much in terms of performance?

I guess I do not know what it does..... any post you can lead me to about it?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
it's turned on by default if your using the hero.user.conf in the basefiles package. it compresses the ram you have and the uses part of the ram as a swap giving you more ram and a ram based swap. sounds redundant but it works. try it without and you'll see a difference.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] bmnaccounts:
How do you select which conf file is being used? Currently I have the hero, ion and rogers conf files all sitting on my sd card.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
it's done automatically, based on the type of build you are running
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
so...typing from opera mini 5 running in java on sense ui in qvga 240x320.......bye hero.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] arleybarros:
GREAT!

good to know...

opera mini is sweet

qvga is sweet

zenulator is BAD!!!

:p
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cointelbro:
so should i just go to bed or is a release imminent ;)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tallnerd1985:
You two are evil, Zenulator and Craig. When can we expect a release of this new build if I might ask or are you two going to tease us??

BTW, how is the Motorblur build going Craig??
[Touch CDMA Android Development] arleybarros:
This nano loads the apps a lot faster.

Zen, why you are punishing us? :confused:
[Touch CDMA Android Development] plemen:
Realease it!! please... :)

Also - how is the ring response time? Comparable to Ion or more like hero?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] arleybarros:
give us a little review!!! :rolleyes:

please :eek:
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mike21pr:
please dont tell me this is tattoo... i wont be able to sleep then!!! if it is, then test the hell out of it so we get a nice juicy stable build. if it isnt... im lost then lol
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
patience... you want to make/receive calls also, no?

zen already posted the status of the build before...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
so......how about that opera mini 5
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
hopefully soon.. your not missing much its just a faster lighter sense ui in qvga and comes with donuts. ok its perfect for the vogue.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] garynsa:
This is not good.... the suspense is killing......
[Touch CDMA Android Development] arleybarros:
HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

not much...

faster than that scaled (nano)?

i'm very satisfied with the nano. it still takes a little to load the apps, but i know that is my micro sd fault.

This is for those that are bored waiting...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FJHYqE0RDg&feature=player_embedded#t=145

Look the size of Sergey Brin's head!!!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
it's good, however it doesn't work 100% yet.

Don't sit here in the forum begging as to when it's going to come out. When it's done it will be done and you'll see it. It's Zen's and my first project together, we want it to be great.

:)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
If I had a motoblur I'd tell you, from what I understand there'd be some real challenges bringing it to our hardware. Probably not worth it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mike21pr:
hahaha you are such a tease, more suspense

wouldnt have it any other way :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
And two for the tattoo based builds by my girlfriend:
[Touch CDMA Android Development] skydirt:
I must say, OperaMini 5 is amazing. Best and fastest browser for a device I have ever used, bar-none. It still lacks the ability to run scripts or display embedded java, .gifs etc.

I can not wait for this to be released on android running natively instead of through a JMM.

BTW anyof you can use it, I'm running Zen's xROM5. I just downloaded the jar file from opera, dropped in on my SD card and installed it through the included JMM.