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[General Topics] 8525Smart:
Ah, but it does. Community/support simply doesn't mean help for when you have trouble using the iPhone. Those things you mentioned (jailbreaking, Cydia, etc)? Those were things created by the iPhone community.

I suppose we may refer to them as different things, but I have always consider all things related to a particular device/software/etc to be that particular thing's community (e.g. XDA would be a part of the Windows Mobile community). Whichever we want to refer to it as, however, the iPhone undoubtedly has a very large and active group of people working to improve it, and I don't see why they shouldn't be included.

After all, look at how many people here takes into consideration 'XDA support' as a reason to purchase a particular phone or not, so I think it's a valid thing to include.
[General Topics] utrx:
orb3000, 8525Smart, TheChampJT, ingerasu.

I thank you for the information you provided.

Yes, i have heard about how the Omnia's HD camera does not do 24fps and the sound is usually out of sync.......I need to download videos from reviews and check it out first hand.

So far I'm leaning towards the Omnia. I get addicted to Apps(iPhone) and Flashing(WinMo), perhaps the lack of them with the Omnia will be a bit of a relief. What I see is almost all of what I get. :)

If I find an Omnia HD around for an accepatble price, I'll get it.

Everyone has an Iphone, need to diversify :P
[General Topics] orb3000:
Good for you!

Shame you won´t have more customisation/personalization/flashing...

Any grandma out there can have one exactly identical to yours:eek:

Hope at least you save one winmo/htc to play with it!

Cheers friend!

Well said!
[General Topics] Rudegar:
don't get these posts what do people expect to get as reply?

it's like going to www.worldhunger.com and asking give to the needy or whopper with bacon ?
[General Topics] eaglesteve:
IPhone does have excellent support community. In fact even better than XDA in my opinion. The amount of tweaks and customization that iPhone geeks do would shock you guys. Check out for example www.modmyi.com. All the popular Cydia software vendors have dedicated sub forums there. People there do go very deep into tweaking.
[General Topics] crazy talk:
i would rather have the IPhone 3Gs over the Omnia HD.

just my opinion....
[General Topics] Euroman28:
You can record video with a Iphone 3Gs yes but you cant still do a video call with a a 1000 USD phone and no optional memory can be inserted.

Is Steves engineers retards or something? Like then they build the macbook air.

While with a 100 USD phone I expand its memory, take better pictures and even do a videocall.

So why pay 1000 USD for Iphone?

Besides my S/E X1 I have Omnia HD. If S/E had given the X1 a bigger screen like the Omnia. Then the X1 would have been better. Cause the current isn't finger friendly like Omnia HD.
[General Topics] newuser888:
Why do people keep forgetting that application is the most important thing to look at? Camera is but just one of the many applications. There are many more that we need. Whichever could deliver the best application solutions is the winner.
[General Topics] crazy talk:
not even the best, just what you need in a presentation you like using.

i know this is a Winmo forum so iphone=crap. but it really is a decent device.

the OP will not be disappointed in either phone. so his best bet is to try both.

to me atleast you really cannot make a bad choice when it comes to current smartphones. they all work quite well.
[XPERIA X1 General] VelikiMeshtar:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5F0Ruzwos8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xMUEhFBJ8g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa1zvj5YDy4

The final installment of the epic battle: iPhone vs HTC Hero, iPhone OS vs Android, Apple vs Google ... Whose cuisine will reign supreme? Noah gives his opinion, anyway.

The real question is where is WINMO here and our beloved SE X1?
[XPERIA X1 General] de Wolfe:
I think nobody doubt's that the UI of the X1 is not the best. If it would be that good, why would such a lot of people install Manila or Titanium. You cannot describe the Panel-thingy as real UI because it hasn't been pushed forward by SE. There are to be honest no useful new panels since months. The only thing SE does now is selling SPB MS3 e.g. in Korea as X1-UI.
[XPERIA X1 General] ebooksmart:
I'm in Korea. trust me it sucks. Slower than ever, full of bloatware and corporate advertisement, and no english options.
[XPERIA X1 General] spikegotti:
apple's ui on both iphone and computer is way above the line, no doubt about it, apple just need to add a hardware keyboard, full multitasking abilities with 3rd party apps without having to install another 3rd party app for this purpose, and a few more goodies to win me over, god knows i hate to use onscreen keyboards

Hero Sense UI looks sexy, makes u wonder if its really android
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
"iPhone 3GS vs HTC Hero" where does the x1 come into it
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
Haha, this "just" things is ****..ng alot man!
[XPERIA X1 General] spikegotti:
lol yea, the iphone is a good device dont get me wrong lol, but its just not good enough for me, imagine if i had it with my x1, i think i'd only use it for games...i dont think i would ever buy a device without a hardware keyboard, and to know that i cant minimize an app to use another, hmmm i doubt that too...
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
That's what I mean.

Fruit misses alot.
[XPERIA X1 General] WhyBe:
Yet another iPhone casualty :D

This is so frustrating that it's funny. I think the first TRUE iPhone competition (meaning: a great highly-refined user experience, online software/music downloads, smooth running, etc.), will come from Microsoft and WM7 with it's app store and Zune capability. Everything on the market up until then, I have a strong feeling, will come up short like the HTC Hero and Palm Pre does. This is not to say there won't be great phones, but, pound-for-pound, it'll take Microsoft and a hardware partner to come up with a TRUE iphone competitor.

It's amazing how the new superior features of the HTC Hero still fell flat in the face of the aging iPhone GUI. It was very obvious in the videos. The true iPhone competitor will have iTunes equivalent, AppStore competition, ultra-smooth GUI (don't give me BS about so-called upcoming software optimizations :rolleyes: ). MS could one up Apple by including total voice control of the phone, XBox games, Zune features, fully integrated Bing voice search, etc.
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
WM 7 could do that I think.

And future integration is a must too.
[XPERIA X1 General] WhyBe:
...and forget about compatibility with previous WM versions. They need to start completely fresh.
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Uh.....

So, you want to compare a sub par feature phone with no real OS and a smartphone with a promising OS to a full mobile computer??? HAHAHAHAHA

Right.....

Mandatory:
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
Not neccesarily but possibly.
[XPERIA X1 General] WhyBe:
^^^ a little file compatibility, and that should be it. I don't think MS should bog itself down with legacy code compatibility.

And since MS isn't making the hardware, they need to get really specific and strict on the variety of WM hardware being created. I think when software developers have to account for too many different form factors, the user experience gets watered down.
[XPERIA X1 General] rogatsby:
Delete the spbmobileshell.txt file in /Program Files/SPB Mobile Shell. After rebooting, the UI will be in English.
[XPERIA X1 General] spikegotti:
somehow i cant see anyone being accustom to using the 480x800 resolution will resort to the iphone(unless the resolution is increased in the next model), its true the iphone has millions of colors, but damn, i hate being able to see the pixels on a phone, :rolleyes: i actually made a guy jealous yesterday after he saw the resolution on my SEX1...the iphone still has some catching up to do before i switch, but as i said before, the os has the best gui...everyone knows, apple scores big when it comes to their OS GUI (including the OS in general)

also note, those who claim the iphone is faster than the x1

it takes like a 1.5 -2 second delay to open stock apps on the iphone, on my x1 only a few 3rd party apps takes this long

now the 3g s is out, that should be compared to the x2, still i doubt the iphone 3g s can outrun the xperia

if SE had to open a store selling the x1 housing for at least $25 USD, i dont think i would be selling my x1, because its the best damn device out there right now despite the lack of games for the resolution
[XPERIA X1 General] WhyBe:
Yes, the WVGA screen is really impressive. I think iPhone is stuck at it's lower resolution because it uses capacitive touch technology. Capacitive doesn't allow the precision of the resistive technology of the X1. You'll notice that the Hero with it's capacitive screen is also lo-res.

No one can see the difference between 16M colors and 65K unless you're looking at gradients. Besides, the iPhone screen only has 153600 pixels...where the hell are you going to fit 16million colors? :p

Sorry, you're going to need to prove that one. Many of my friends have iPhones, and the first thing you notice when using one is how fast and fluid it's response is. You have to take into account, iPhone has multitasking disabled AND it has a faster CPU (600 or so MHz I think) AND GUI optimized OS. Maybe programs take the same amount of time to load as X1, but, they flow so much smoother. Even smooth apps on the X1 such as YouTube, PhoneEx, CNN panel still are not as quick and smooth as the iPhone.
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
He doesn't have to prove anything, because my X1 is faster than an iCrap as well.
[XPERIA X1 General] spikegotti:
Sorry, you're going to need to prove that one. Many of my friends have iPhones, and the first thing you notice when using one is how fast and fluid it's response is. You have to take into account, iPhone has multitasking disabled AND it has a faster CPU (600 or so MHz I think) and GUI optimized OS.

------------------------------------

did that yesterday dude, windows calender on my x1 opens faster then the iphone ical

note that this guy does not have any 3rd party apps on his iphone
[XPERIA X1 General] WhyBe:
I'm sure there are tons of comparison videos on YouTube. Show me one that has the X1 being faster and more fluid than iPhone. :rolleyes:

And I'm talking overall, not just one particular program's load time.
[G1 Apps and Games] Stigy:
I know a ton of people check this subforum for new application releases from the big companies and I didn't see this mentioned.

Amazon Mobile has released an official application for Android.

Get it: http://www.cyrket.com/package/com.amazon.mShop.android
[G1 Apps and Games] jordanjay29:
Thanks for posting this!

As I always do with big companies like this, I checked Amazon's website to see if they truly had released an app and someone wasn't just playing with us in a phishing scam. It's legit, it's real, and here's the link:

Amazon's Press Release

I'm not a huge Amazon user, but I do shop there from time to time. This is really a great way to reach customers. Kudos to Amazon!

Now if they could just make a Kindle reader for Android...
[G1 Apps and Games] stickman:
Could you (or anyone else for that matter) please post the apk file?

I've just searched for it here in the spanish android market and can't find it.

I use to buy stuff from Amazon and an app like this would be great.
[G1 Apps and Games] stickman:
forget that... I was able to download it using Market Enabler :)
[G1 Apps and Games] jndscslegal:
Just in case apk

Just in case you need it !;)
[G1 Apps and Games] AdrianK:
Never heard of Market Enabler, could you explain?
[G1 Apps and Games] stickman:
It's a tool some italian guys developed before Google opened the Italian market for paid apps so they could buy in the US one.

Besides allowing that, it comes with an added benefit and it's that it allows getting any app from the US market, even if it isn't available for the UK, Spanish or any other market.

The app requires root, but that I suppose won't be a problem for any xda user. You can get it here
[G1 Apps and Games] Lazzzara:
Amazon.com app

Just found out about this app and it sounds really interesting. Only issue is it's not available on the market in the UK (at least... I assume it isn't. I can't find it...)

Would someone be able to upload the apk? It's a free app so I'm not stealing it or anything :P

And I understand it probably only searches amazon.com, but I'm really not that bothered about that :)
[G1 Apps and Games] jordanjay29:
There's already discussion on this. It was the third result when I searched: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=544239
[G1 Apps and Games] Fallen Spartan:
Duplicate thread. In future try searching before creating new thread

Thread closed
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] IseeBrickedPhones:
Anyone got Nanadroid working with Hero yet?

Need to take a back up on my device before I start playing around with it!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] enlightener:
recovery.img with nandroid here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=543571
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Dayzee:
Beat me to it - I did a successful Nandroid backup today before I rooted my Hero. So I guess if I need to I can restore that unrooted image. :) I used the recovery image in the rooting thread above xx
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] frandavid100:
Hi Dayzee,

I'm pretty new to all this, su just to be on the safe side: does your method (linked above) allow me to make a full backup of everything I have in my phone now, and to restore that backup if / when I brick it trying to root it or install a different build?

Thanks in advance.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] minogue:
yes it will restore whatever you had when you made the backup inlcuding setting and just anything you can imagine.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Dayzee:
i think that is what Nandroid does, but I've never had to restore from a backup so can't be sure - any thread or wiki on Nandroid will tell you.

The recovery image that you boot during the rooting process has Nandroid built in - when you get to the recovery console screen, scroll down to Nandroid back up and press the scroll wheel - away it goes, and then says back up completed - the file is then on your SD card in a folder called Nandroid and from the looks of the console, to restore, you'd just scroll to that option and press the scroll button.

If you're in doubt - do nowt - that's my moto. But good luck if you want to have a go :)

Dayzee
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] frandavid100:
Thanks minogue, that's relieving. I'd like to start learning to make the most of my hero, but I'm quite afraid of breaking it, what with being so expensive and me having a monthly data fee for it and all.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Phil_UK:
Hi,

What is the image 'cm-hero-recovery.img' exactly?

Is it a particular Hero release? I presume this is the image of the rooted hero....but how does it compare to the unlocked HTC supplied Hero? Are there missing applications, widgets etc...?

Thanks

Phil
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] roeblerrieland:
n00b question no. 1

I'm new to Android so I suspect you'll need to be patient with me, very patient. I'm trying to backup my device but I've been unsuccessful so far. This is what I'm doing:

1. Power down handset

2. Power handset back up(holding down back key) This brings up the Fastboot, I think, screen.

3. Plug in USB cable

4. Fire up CMD.exe

5. Enter "fastboot boot cm-hero-recovery.img" - this brings up Android system recovery screen.

6. but now when I select "[Alt+B]Nandroid v2.2 backup" it says performing backup for a second or so but results in: Error running nandroid backup. Backup not performed.

I tried removing the USB cable but that doesn't help. Any advice/ideas/anything, I'm desperate(not really, maybe a little: ). Thanks
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] enlightener:
hmmm, you need to have at least 152 MB + the size of your data partition free on your sdcard.If you have the space and still doesn't work, you can try to do a backup using command line from the recovery:

adb shell
nandroid-mobile.sh -b

ps. nandroid options:

nandroid-mobile v2.1

Usage: /sbin/nandroid-mobile.sh {-b|--backup|-r|--restore|-d|--delete|-u|--getupdate|--webget|--compress|--bzip2} [options]
At least one operation must be defined, try /sbin/nandroid-mobile.sh --help for more information
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] roeblerrieland:
Not choices: Space! Thanks.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] gaabrysz:
OK just did a backup :) works great :) Thank you all :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rpmbnsf:
I feel like I'm going in circles looking for the clean 6.1 R0 ROM from Michy that works on the 7501 (found the one for the 7510). The ROM link thread has not been updated and most of Michy's ROMs listed link back to the same 6.5 ROM..searching only brings up the same thread with only the 6.5 ROM link.

I read the whole thread (all 190 pages!!) but still did not find the link to this ROM..I did find a reference to it from someone else that wanted a more stable fast light ROM (he was told to try the same ROM I'm looking for) but no link was provided.

I must have missed it or the ROM is no longer available?

Am I right in saying if I want a lower power usage, light, stable ROM this would be the most recent one to use?

Thanks for any help.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] jaxboater:
I'm currently using CE OS 5.2.20951 (Build 20931.1.5.0)

Dated 1 Dec. 08

ROM: R0 CleanEdition MiChY

Is this the one you're looking for?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rpmbnsf:
Sounds like it. is it for SPL3.5? And a light ROM ?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] jaxboater:
Yes 3.5 - fairly Lite

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=454666

look at Post #2
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rpmbnsf:
Thanks for the help!!
[Touch HD General] MaziarAmiri:
Hello all :) my first post here ;)

I wanted to buy HTC TOUCH HD to replace my N95 8GB since i like WM phones but i have some questions before doing this:

1_How is the overall build quality of this phone ?

2_How is the audio quality in both headset and loudspeaker ? for example compared to devices like my N95 ?

3_How is the screen sensitivity?

4_Is it upgradeable to windows mobile 6.5?

i've many reviews but i wanted to ask the people who own this phone:)

Thanks :)
[Touch HD General] anssibragge:
build quality is outstandind

touchscreen is wonderful, can even be tuned with a 3rd party program (hdtweak).

I have myself been running a custom made wm6.5 for about 3-4 months already, but it's everyone's choice if you want to use custom made or stick to stock.

can't really say or know if htc is going to release a stock 6.5 for touch hd or not.... those who know are not allowed to say - those who don't know have grown bored to continually to ask that :)

abe
[Touch HD General] MaziarAmiri:
thanks and how is the sound quality ? :)
[Touch HD General] PoisonWolf:
Amiri,

The phone's build quality is sturdy. The only point is that it creeks once in a while when it is at a certain angle in the central part of the back cover due to the empty hollow space between the back cover and the battery. Slipping a piece of folded paper will be able to fix this issue easily if it bothers you that much.

The screen sensitivity is fine. However, due to the nature of resistive screens, the corner of the screens are not as sensitive as the center portion of the screens. In reality, we're talking about a 20 ~ 30 % difference in pressure required. Will you notice this? Yes. Will it bug you? Unlikely.

And no, the TouchHD will not be getting the -official- 6.5 upgrade. However, I'm sure rom cookers will get theirs in. If you want the stock upgrades, go with TouchPro2 or TouchDiamond.

Cheers.
[Touch HD General] MaziarAmiri:
thanks :) well i like TOUCH HD more than Pro2/Diamond2 because of bigger screen also i like its design more,

but u guys didn't talk about the audio quality,how is it ? :)
[Touch HD General] PoisonWolf:
TC,

I'm sorry but I don't know much about the headjack quality as I don't use it much. However, the speaker is pretty hollow and low on the bass. Nothing to yell about. My w800i has a much better speaker.

I'm sure the headjack output will be good if you used quality earphones.

Cheers.
[Touch HD General] sekibun:
the sound quality through the headphone jack is outstanding !

i have the nokia N95 as well and i can tell you that it is much better and much louder (the n95 was not that loud, at least compared to the HD).

i don't know about the speaker quality though. it's good for calls but no clue about music...

by the way, the stock earphones are good enough (at least for me, but i'm not a music whore)

~sekibun
[Touch HD General] alien79:
hey mate, congratulations on making your mind for the move!

I too had changed from nokia n95, first time going for a windows mobile, and here are my thoughts..

about the build, it seems solid, compact and no squeezes what so ever.

touch screen sensitivity is alright i guess, i find it to be sluggish a bit when trying to browse through programs, its a bit glitchy. But then again, this is my first windows mobile, so am not sure how it performs compared to other similar devices.

About sound quality, having had a nokia n95, it is utterly disappointing, you have to say bye to the beautiful stereo sound of the n95. when you set a ringtone and receive a call, it sounds like an old radio ( the one with one speaker and a big knob to tune). headphone quality isnt a whole lot better either, definitely inferior to n95. You will have to sacrifice sound quality for functionality...and i must say, its worth it ;) so far i am loving this phone, apart from the continuous paranoia of scratching the screen, and the constant wiping of fingerprints of the screen, this phone is truly brilliant!

One more thing...you will be a little disappointed with battery life, its 2-3 days max if you use it ONLY as a phone lol.

Good luck
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
Just to add to alien79's comments:

One thing the HD (and other windows mobile devices) has over the N95 is the ability to add additional software, tweaks, new OS, etc etc. If you search and read threads in this forum along with the wiki you'll notice that you can completely flash a new rom with tweaks for speed, smoothness and stability as well as fixes for sound quality, stuttering etc. All you need to do is search, read, ask questions and you'll find that almost everything you seek is awaiting you!!
[Touch HD General] MaziarAmiri:
Yes the most reason that i'm getting a winmo phone is because of its customizations but i really need a phone that has a good audio quality,i'm getting mixed results here :( one say its better than N95 the other guy says its worse :( my only concern is the phoens audio quality now,and i am getting mixed answers :(
[Touch HD General] alien79:
You remind me when i decided to buy this phone and had sleepless nights thinking if it was a right decision :D, dont worry though, its a forum, getting different responses is anticipated, as people have different opinions, and different music taste. Ofcourse having a good headphones is going to improve the sound quality, and as Fallen star mentioned (not that i have tried yet, as am still a noob) maybe different roms and tweaks can improve sound quality. Unfortunately there is nothing you can do about the phone`s speaker...you will have live with it, and having such a great phone in my opinion, makes it easy to ignore this minor slip....

lay back, relax and think microsoft ;)
[Touch HD General] MaziarAmiri:
So loudspeaker is bad? strange because gsmarena.com gave "Excellent" to TOUCH HD's loud speaker:

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_hd-review-300p4.php
[Touch HD General] alien79:
that is a decible scale, solely to measure the "loundness" of the sound, nothing to do with quality. Bear in mind that an airoplane as around 120 db sound scale, that aint pretty sound eh :)
[Touch HD General] MaziarAmiri:
So if the phones audio quality isn't good i guess i have to wait for a better model from HTC :(