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[Windows Mobile] dcd1182:
well device info is an htc app, it is not reading any ms info. you are correct that those are in nk.exe but its oem code, i dont think its relative to the future of WM on your device. have you replaced your payload/xip.bin/nk.exe with stock wizard and checked device info? and how are you building, is ervius vk modifying your rom date? i remember reading earlier in this thread that ervius has problems setting september.

player911: i want to say i read that that particular octet in arcsoft's versioning scheme differs between oems and does not reflect the actual app version. IE 5.2.0.23 would be newer than 5.2.1.22. so i dont know that the .22 versions have any real world difference. (but i could be wrong)
[Windows Mobile] witschey:
Forget about the post that I originally posted here. My fault. I burned a feature and though that Microsoft had incorporated it into the latest build...guess not!
[Windows Mobile] CRACING:
Well, I have wasted 1 month in research of device info and nk.exe links. I use my own made kitchen which is based on pb. I modify the ROM date manually in nk.exe ( S000 ) using HEX Editor. There wasn't any problem like this till 23037 but started from 23041. :( No idea about other new branches

I'm sure there isn't any problem in my side so it should be some wrong between WinMo 6.5 and WinMo 6.1 nk. :/
[Windows Mobile] Montecristo:
The taskmanager work fine in 23047?
[Windows Mobile] CRACING:
HTC Taskmanager?

Yes it does. :)
[Windows Mobile] Cyberdyne:
Again I hope that my questions are not to stupid. And please excuse my pore english.

I have a HTC Wizard and afaik there is no 6.5 kernal for this phone. What does the sentence mean and do I have to do something like that do build a 23047 ROM for my phone?

How do I do that? What do I have to look for? What happends to the modules when I cook a ROM and there is not enough space in slot 0 and 1 for all of them? Kernals < 6.5 only use slot 0 and 1, right?

What does this mean? Does it mean converting a modul to a normal dll-file?

If yes:

- Which modules should not be recmodded?

- Which modules should me recmodded?

- How do I know if I have to recmod? (this has something to do with the slots, right?)

- How do I recmod?

I read the first posts in this thread about the new kernel and the changes with modules and slots and so on. But that was to difficult for me. As you see in my questions, I think I am missing some basic information. Sorry for asking such basic stuff. :(
[Windows Mobile] player911:
Yes, but you have to modify it so that it is "transparent". The how-to is located in the 3rd or 4th post.
[Windows Mobile] CRACING:
I guess the site is down now so I have attached mht file. Just keep it for ref and when the sites comes online again. get the latest info from there. Or else you can search for "Recmodding and Slot-0" in google. The website is www.everythingdiamond.info.

I suggest you to get SYS common from joojoobee666 and 0409 too if you are cooking 0409 language ROM. ex : here instead wasting time in recmodding. ;)

Best Regards
[Windows Mobile] Farmer Ted:
Since you have a 6.1 native kernel (and probably will never have a 6.5 kernel), you can't use as many modules as folks with 6.5 kernels. The new builds have a ton of modules in them; you'll need to rec'mod a bunch. There are tips throughout the thread for which ones to convert (couldn't tell you myself, as I have a 6.5 kernel).

You can find the memory map in your build log. If your kitchen doesn't produce one, here's a post on how to modify the .bat to dump the log. Read post #2 for further info on memory mapping and slotting. You want slot 0 to have a low module commitment, or you'll get lots of weird errors.
[Windows Mobile] player911:
Still no luck with a working Messaging in 23047. I've tried 3 different Arcsoft MMS versions and several Webview packages from older builds.

I'm using an unmodified SYS and the problem persists. Any suggestions while I hard reset?
[Windows Mobile] + Que PPC:
mmmmm

could you see into your OEM packages maybe you have a file that is overwriting a newer...
[Windows Mobile] player911:
I don't see anything that stands out. No webviewer.dll or anything. The problem is various.

- When I go to New>>SMS, it opens up but I cannot type. The [TO:] box doesn't respond to finger presses either (normally opens Contacts).

- MMS works fine (afaik). I can type in a few letters and select a name from my contacts and add pictures and send.

- Email, when I hit reply... it dumps me back to my inbox.

I simply took my 23045 kitchen and copied the new SYS, xip.bin, and MSXIPKernel that came with 23047.
[Windows Mobile] dcd1182:
what method are you using to modify your date and version manually? do they appear correctly if left unmodified?

i still do not feel that anything in the ce os can cause those effects on your oem device information app. its an oem app reading an oem code. while not on a wizard, i have used 23045 and 23047 with a 6.1 nk.exe and had no problems with device information.
[Windows Mobile] CRACING:
Yes same here too. trying since 1 hours but still no luck. done eveything as said here. :(

Its a easy visible hex entry in S000 ( nk.exe ). like "TI OMAP850-195MHz WIZARD ENGLISH SEP 11 240X320 16 M-Systems and so on.........". I'm doing this same thing since many months but never seen such problem. Even I tried using same nk.exe which works fine in 23037 but same problem. :(

Anyways, its just a string so doesn't matter much. :)
[Windows Mobile] dcd1182:
what device do you have?
[Windows Mobile] bga7x:
Anyone? I try to change the jpegs in each task and it wont let me. I have unchecked read only, and i get an error saying it cant be saved because its open somewhere else(its not) or its a read only file which i have unchecked! any help would be great!
[Windows Mobile] player911:
AT&T Fuze (Raphael)

I've used several Arcsoft MMS versions and a bunch of webview.dlls to no avail. I haven't changed anything since my last release (23045) other then the 23047 files from post 1.

Really strange.
[Windows Mobile] fards:
I've not tried editing any of the included tsks, just adapted the Htc_black to fit the new style.

have you checked to see if the file is listed as "hidden"? sounds like you're having that issue.
[Windows Mobile] player911:
What I do, is OPEN the file in your photo editor of choice and then while the image is open... delete the actual file from the folder; then Save it using the same name.
[Windows Mobile] + Que PPC:
Are you a HEX accountant? :confused:

Jeje so in slot 60 we have 18mb for modules... nice... may I transform all my files dll and exe... to modules? wich tool? :p sorry for noob q!
[Windows Mobile] Da_G:
Sure.. the tool is "reversmode.exe" in ervius/bepe kitchen...

Do note: Only executables which contain read-only code can operate properly as a module. Any executable with read/write code will not work as a module - so it will not work for some!

Also, that 18mb figure is for B4PJS log he posted. More than likely not the same for you :)
[Windows Mobile] + Que PPC:
well here is mine I just can see that my roms are clean cause slot 60 is empty.
[Windows Mobile] Da_G:
0x7b200000 - 0x7a020000 = 0x11E0000 (space free slot 61)

0x7a000000 - 0x78020000 = 0x1FE0000 (space free slot 60)

0x11E0000 + 0x1FE0000 = 0x31C0000 (space free both slots 60/61)

0x31C0000 in decimal: 52166656 / 1024 / 1024 = 49.75 MB free slots 60/61 :)
[Windows Mobile] + Que PPC:
Now I can ask you something...

this 49.7 Mb are the same Storage memory that i have in settings memory? the same numbers that the OS Shows me? so...

in that case i will keep it clean as I can... jejeje

so how can we know if the exe has a read/write or just read code inside? to know wich to convert or wich leave as file... (to confirm, all the dlls can be reversemodded into modules?)
[Windows Mobile] TAEL:
How can we add a text to About like this?

(source:ROMeOS by monx)
[Windows Mobile] Da_G:
No, not the same number, that value is for Physical Memory, whereas here we are concerned with Virtual Memory, 2 different things, you are shuffling things around in Virtual Memory, but Physical Memory is only affected when a program is actively loaded. Recommend some studying on Physical vs. Virtual memory if you are interested in the differences :)

How can you know.. view the source of the program I guess :) Not sure, otherwise. Yes any executable file can be run through reversemode, but again programs with read/write code will not function properly5.
[Windows Mobile] jmckeejr:
Is anyone having netcf errors with 23024? I have tried the package included as well as another 3.5 and 3.7 packages. Same result after boot I get an error with netframework every time :( At least the dialer is working on 23024, but I notice that all of the modules also have the file inside. Should we delete these? I deleted all of them earlier, but I may have deleted something else by mistake and caused my ROM to not boot.

My screen does not look anything like the screenshots, is that a default theme or is that something custom? I have tried all of the different themes and none had the image under softkeys as shown.

I wish M$ could figure out a way to redraw the rest of the screen so it fit inside of their giant taskbar. This would save 3rd party vendors from replacing their apps or making several versions since 6.1 is still going to be around as well as 6.5.1 :) I feel like it should be the burden of M$ to make their OS compatible with ALL software, not just new software, but I guess thats how they make money :(

EDIT: While I'm here can anyone tell me what "Perfbox" or "UNISCRIBE" packages are for? Also, does MSTag not work on Raphael at all? Or is it just me? Thanks

-jmckeejr
[Windows Mobile] Farmer Ted:
I hate asking dumbass questions, but where do you guys get the memory map? I see it flash by during cooking, but don't know where to look afterwords. I started cooking in msvc and occasionally get memory errors with it.

I'm using 23016, and otherwise it's awesome.
[Windows Mobile] jmckeejr:
It is on the build log. I think newer versions of Ervius kitchen have it again. I have a custom .bat file for mine(which is older version)

EDIT: Sorry forgot to ask, is there a way to actually hide the taskbar in start menu? Or isnt there a fix(to move icons down) by changing the .cpr file? Anybody remember what it was? Or if exists?
[Windows Mobile] Farmer Ted:
Hmm, I looked for a build log but didn't see it. Will have to look harder.
[Windows Mobile] rgb-rgb:
StartMenu_GridScene_480x640.cpr

Here is the file that I modified and added to my packages so that it overwrites the ones in the sys file.
[Windows Mobile] rgb-rgb:
Build_log.txt in the root of the kitchen after you build a ROM
[Windows Mobile] twopumpchump:
you have to add this to your bat, where it calls platformrebuilder

TOOLS\platformrebuilder.exe[COLOR="Red"]> build-log.txt[/COLOR]
[Windows Mobile] kane159:
I have that issue too :(

and the phone page there's a long long toor bar :p

and loooooot's of issues

so I just get 23024's shell32.exe +aygshell.dll

to my 21925 :p

and works good

I hope...I just start trying to mix them :D
[Windows Mobile] jmckeejr:
Thanks, I was just getting ready to edit that :)

Everything else seems to work better for me on 23024 than 23022, but I cant deal with the netcf error after every soft reset :( I am just now trying all of the Phone SYS files to see if it helps anything in 23022.

EDIT: holy $#@% I just realized my volume button is not working right with 23024\23022. Volume up bring up the new taskbar helper thing. and volume down is like d-pad down. Any ideas on that one ? lol
[Windows Mobile] BesFen:
Hi Da_G,

can GENE have WM 6.5 Native kernels?

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile] the.decoy:
Not sure if its related but from 23022 to 23024 I have had ATContacts (aka "Fave People") in CHome stop working completely:

^^ Happens when you try to run ATContacts.exe and select which contacts your want on the Fave People layer in CHome.

Weird ... especially because other Showaco apps such as Weather still work :confused:

Wondering if the problem with PocketOutlook instead?? My iContacts app still seems to be able to talk to the Outlook contacts list.
[Windows Mobile] herg62123:
when i try to create rom it gives me an error no svn folders what is this

sorry if it has been asked before
[Windows Mobile] dcd1182:
.netcf 3.5 working fine for me in 23024 using the included package, however I am using a 6.1 kernel and netcf is one package i convert from modules to files...
[Windows Mobile] Mikenif:
what i did was save it in the same folder but with a -new behind it. then remove the old ones en remove the -new in the names of the new ones. et voila
[Windows Mobile] secc123:
Hi dcd1182,

Thanks for your reply. Yes, when i first done it i removed some sys packages but then i enabled yhem back and all is fine. I will go through one by one to see which one was causing the issue cos i do want to remove some of the bloat, sorry this was an error by me (DUH!!).

Maybe you could help me with slot issues, i am using the 6.5 kernel so do i need to do anything re slot 0?

Thanks for your help.

Secc
[Windows Mobile] player911:
lmao, I just figured out what the problem was with the Messaging. It was the SYS package "Riched20". I enabled it on my last build and low and behold it now works perfectly. I'm even using my original Arcsoft MMS 5.2.0.22. I am using the Webview.dll from 23409 that was posted a page or two back. I don't know if it requires both but it's working now.
[Windows Mobile] + Que PPC:
another xtrange issue on the build? hehehe... please dont disable sys packages as that you guess, it seems that is not necesary...
[Windows Mobile] fards:
yeah as we keep saying there's nothing wrong with the ingredients, the error is how ppl are abusing them in their kitchen..
[Windows Mobile] TAEL:
I'm cooking very very un-touched rom, but I have sms sending issue also . I've tried many packages from many builds, many combinations, many recmods and grrrrrrrrrrr!
[Windows Mobile] twopumpchump:
just curious, how many posts did you make in this thread before you tried restoring stock sys without modifications? even after i posted that messaging was working and reposted that from da_g you still didnt listen :rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile] fards:
you're on a raphael. You have a native kernel available. You shouldn't need to recmod anything (well maybe mstag but that's not essential)

Restore the standard SYS,

Check your oem and ext to make sure that nothing is conflicting.. then do it again, and again. then check it again, then double check your DRM stuff
[Windows Mobile] TAEL:
I tried both . with recmod and without recmod. I dont have this issue in 23037 and lower builds. Also I didn't apply any changes to my OEM and EXT, and SYS-XIP is completely untouched as Da_G upload.

:confused:
[Windows Mobile] player911:
I thought that Riched20 folder was residue from another device it was dumped from. I read somewhere to delete it, which I have been doing in the past few kitchens. Figures that the 1 sys folder I excluded was the issue.

Tael, a few posts ago someone posted the webview.dll from 23409. I have that plus that Riched20 sys package.

I don't believe it all boils down to JUST leaving the SYS intact. I think there are a few other factors coming in play with 23047. The right combination should work though as I have found out.
[Windows Mobile] fards:
yes but just because you haven't changed anything in your OEM and EXT doesn't mean that there's something that could be conflicting in there with the new SYS build.
[Windows Mobile] afn691:
Let me ask you a (stupid) question. I read all the thread more than 4 times and now I'm missing about the versions.

Which is the branch "supposed" to be the "correct path" ? I'm having doubts between 230xx and 234xx ones. Or they both are going to end in something as "WM 6.5" and "WM 7" ? Or there will be a branch for "generic" PPC's and the other one for Microsoft-branded PPC's ?

I mean, cooking last 230xx and 234xx versions (not those last ones as I'm being busy in other things), I've found they're "similar" but 230xx seem more "compatible" to old devices.

Maybe I'm mistaken, maybe you told about this in some post I did not read :-s

Thank you !
[Windows Mobile] Cyberdyne:
Here is an example of an old build (23034):

Memory Map...
SLOT 0: 0x02000000 - 0x00d70000 (END: 0x00060000, 121 MODULES)
0x02000000 - 0x01fc0000 - ROM 0
0x01f80000 - 0x01e40000 - ROM 1
SLOT 1: 0x04000000 - 0x02020000 (END: 0x02020000, 203 MODULES)

RAM IMAGE: 0x8c100000 - 0x8c373c70

RAM: 0x8c374000 - 0x8c3aa000 - Used for kernel modules
0x8c3aa000 - 0x8fc00000 - 56 MB free

Can sombody explain to me what this means? 121 Modules in slot 0 ... do I have to change something? I never got an "out of memory error".

This is one of the reasons why I don't understand all this stuff.

Memory Map: SLOT 0: 0x02000000 - 0x00d70000

Da_G: Slot 0: 0x00000000 to 0x01FFFFFF

I don't know what memory map is telling me?! Maybe I got one thing right. Da_G said that the slots are allocated from top-down, right? I see "END: 0x00060000" for slot 0. Does this mean that I only have free space from 0x00000000 to 0x00060000. That would only be 0,375MB, right?

@cracking:

Thank you for your help. You build ROMs for the Wizard like me. Did you recmod any of the modules? Which? You told me to use the files from joojoobee666. Are they different to those from Da_Gs from first post?
[Windows Mobile] twopumpchump:
yes you need to recmod some modules....

0x00d70000 - 0x00060000 = d10000(13697024 dec)= 13.0625mb of free space in slot 0

with wizzard you dont have native 6.5 nk.exe, you can try these files which have already been recmodded if you want, then post your mem map again to see how much it helped :)
[Windows Mobile] witschey:
Testing build 23047 using the 96 dpi files that were shared in this thread by TPC.

When I tried to run the WM 6.5 task manager I would get the following error:

"The file 'taskmgr' cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found......"

Looking at the source files I notice that the TaskMgr.exe file seems to be missing in the source files that TCP shared with us, but it IS included in the files that we got from Da_G

So if you want to solve this problem you need to use the TaskMgr.exe file from the Da_G source files. Not sure if any other files are missing from the 96 dpi files that we got from TCP. This is the first error I have encountered.
[Windows Mobile] Farmer Ted:
Do you have the task manager enabled in your EXT's? It sounds to me like you don't. You need the TM package cooked in. There is a task manager provxml that puts the shortcuts in (can't remember where it is in the kitchen-probably OEM-, but it's not in the TM package, at least the one I have), so you can have the shortcut without the TM. You're getting that error because the link is dead (just look at the link with total commander, then check the path and you'll see the .exe is missing-but you already know this).
[Windows Mobile] twopumpchump:
i use dotfred taskmgr, and if you dont delete taskmgr.exe from sys it will make your kitchen crash
[Windows Mobile] witschey:
The issue here is that the TaskMgr.exe file, which is normally part of the WM 6.5 source files, is missing from the source files we got from TCP. The Da_G files has the file, so either TCP excluded it on purpose or it was a mistake.

I do have the shortcut to Task Manager on my Start Menu becuase I have an EXT file that puts it in there.
[Windows Mobile] witschey:
Ah. That explains it. No big deal. I can fix it on my source files.

Could you tell us if you excluded any other files on the source files you shared with us?
[Windows Mobile] Montecristo:
Yeah, I'll ask before ... I too fails.
[Windows Mobile] twopumpchump:
no, the only reason i excluded taskmgr.exe in those files is because i upload those for people who use my kitchen and i include fdctaskmgr in an ext pkg. the only other file that was deleted was SQM, which was replaced by a dummy SQM. the folders browsing, browsingcore, and browsingie have been recmodded as i said when i posted them.

here is the original taskmgr.exe from 23047, and also an ext pkg for fdc taskmgr which i use....you should try the fdc and compare them ;) just dont try to cook them at the same time lol or your kitchen will crash.
[Windows Mobile] ChrisXP27:
works the taskmanager in version 23047?

in version 23409 the apps doesnt close
[Windows Mobile] + Que PPC:
hey you have a complete support for your kitchen users huh?

Nice shot tpc!
[Windows Mobile] twopumpchump:
well i try, but not many ever ask questions they just take my files and run lol.
[Windows Mobile] witschey:
Thanks for the explanation. Its really nice that you replaced SQM by a dummy. Will that also get rid of the annoying dialog asking people to participate in Microsoft xxxx or do we need to add/remove a registry entry to achieve that?

I didn't know what recmodd was all about, but my search revealed that you are basically changing a module into a file. Is that done with the purpose of saving RAM, or is there another reason for doing that?
[Windows Mobile] afn691:
Hi Shane! Your answer solved my "crash" problem when I tried to cook with both tskmgr's (and I created my own -and erroneous- DotFred Taskmgr package), using OsKitchen.

Recmodding files "browsing" is related to the problem about misfunctions with PIE ?
[Windows Mobile] twopumpchump:
yes, the dummy SQM will get rid of the customer feedback popup...no need to edit anything else.

recmodding is converting a module to a file, it can be done with recmod.exe. the purpose of recmodding modules is to allow more space in slot 0 since our kaisers dont have a native 6.5 nk.exe and have only 2 memory slots instead of 4 with the native nk.exe from 6.5. if you do a build-log.txt in your kitchen, it will print up a mem map for you and you will be able to tell if you need to recmod more modules or not. ive been using this method(recmodding browsingie, browsing, browsingcore) for months now for kaiser and i think everyone knows it has worked pretty well for me :)
[Windows Mobile] witschey:
Cool! If it works on your Kaiser I am pretty sure that will work on mine. Thanks.
[Windows Mobile] dddrko:
@drkfngthdragnlrd

How can I change this blue color to black?
[Windows Mobile] yonn1981:
Thanx Da_G for the new build ...

I found something interesting for me, in the dpi_96 files you supplied for this build "23047" I found MSIMAR_DPI_96 which is related to arabic keyboard - But nothing related to MSIMAR was found in Shared folder of this build, is it possible that you could try to find out anything about 0401 "Arabic" Language packs? or anything related sipAR and MSIMAR as MS I think is working on :D?

Thanx in advance...
[Windows Mobile] waremike32:
It's file "classicblue_msgboxTitle.png" in Base_DPI_96.

But that will change all message boxes. I'm not sure how you'd only edit that particular msgbox.
[Windows Mobile] hasseye:
hey not sure if this is just happening to me, if this is an error, or an update by microsoft, but for some reason in most screens especially text messages on the bottom taskbar towards the right theres no button there, but if u tab the open area a "menu" like screen pops up. Any one else wanna try it out. See if its just my system screwing up?b
[Windows Mobile] twopumpchump:
you are using an old theme, try using default classic blue and see if the button is there ;)
[Windows Mobile] hasseye:
still missing it, not sure why. What could cause this to happen? Gonna try a softreset see if it solves the problem.