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[Touch CDMA General] jamezelle:
i added the swap.fil and the bootscript.sh and i notice its a little faster, almost useable. i also did the clean slate scene and that gives an extra speed boost thanks again zenulator
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
About to boot it now. I haven't been able to test any of your builds because of the sdcard thing so hope this works.
[Touch CDMA General] Macmee:
It works, and internet even works (first android that internet works for me with Bell Mobility). However it's slow. Like, crazy slow. Does anyone else have any problems with it being slow? (Is there a way I can check if the swap is working?)
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
thanks. try mssmisions newest initrd.gz it should enable swap automatically with out any need files. just make sure your rename bootscript.sh to something else before using his initrd.gz or else you'll have way more swap than you need.

The only thing with his latest initrd.gz is that you don't have an option if you don't want swapon. But you can always turn it off through the terminal or adb.

Hopefully mssmision comes through with the latest build.
[Touch CDMA General] masalma:
just installed seems a little buggy in the beginning, hopefully once everything loads up it will speed up, I used the full black.

Thanx for all the effort, I been running cupcake for the past 2 weeks and loving it, with the new hero I don't think i will go back to Windows Mobile, Android is just too easy on the fingers and eyes :)

Cheers,

Nas
[Touch CDMA General] jamezelle:
i cant get my location to work in google maps on hero black. does android use agps or gps or both?
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
GPS is only working right now. I haven't tested it in my builds. When I'm using vilords Ion build GPS works. It takes me a little while to pick up my location usually I have to be outside in a clear area for a couple minutes before it locks my location then after that it works pretty good. The other day using Google Maps it tracked me all the way to work right to my parking spot and from my walk in side. Also you must have a gps enabled radio. So if you have GPS working in WinMo then it should work in android.
[Touch CDMA General] drkow19:
I'm gonna try the new one (uploaded sunday morning) with mssmison's blank data file. Will it work? I'll let you know.

EDIT:

do not use the blank data, it wont set up properly on first boot.
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
you don't need a blank data file on this build. all you need is mssmisions initrd.gz and my system.img. i suppose you can use his blank data file just like you can use the data.img from my build on his. anyway i'm uploading the new BackInBlack right now. It's a lot more usable. no data.img is required and a fresh bootup takes about 5 min with hardly any lag.
[Touch CDMA General] drkow19:
New full build is better, but its using data every 30 seconds after most widgets were removed (not all of them). I don't know if this is a first-boot only thing, but I'm gonna try the backinblack. Thanks dude!
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
I'm posting this from BackInBlack right now. I'm leaning more towards this build In the future. The full hero build was mostly a exercise to see how close to a real HTC Hero we can get on the Vogue. For everyday use BackInBlack is more suitable as of right now.
[Touch CDMA General] drkow19:
BackInBlack works even better. Some other builds have a nice "Calibrate Screen" program, and I think you should add it to your stuff. Every build I use, you have to click to the inside of the edge in order to actually touch a letter on the edge (like 1 or 0 or q or p).
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
The HTC keyboard actually has a calibration option in the settings. That should sort out the typing errors. Open settings the scroll down to Local&Text and Click on Touch Input. It will bring up another menu and click on Text input. Scroll all the way down and you'll see the Calibration Tool. It will walk you through the rest. There are also settings that you can put into your default.txt those settings can be found in vilords Ion thread I believe. Also instead of going through the settings menu you can open the settings straight from the HTC keyboard by pressing the gears icon to the left of the space bar.
[Touch CDMA General] myshinynewtouch:
zenulator - ur new build is quite fast - i am very impressed - booted up in 5 mins.. really great work man - blew me away - but still having problem with sd card and market - i cant see sd card and market wont download anything...always have to force close... is it working for u ? does anyone have any solution for this..
[Touch CDMA General] myshinynewtouch:
just wanted to try out some stuff to see if i can get sd card to work - tried to use msmisson's regular hero themed build data file for zenulator's blackinblack system file, music works where i can access the sd card but market doesn't work and a lot of errors too..

damn man if only sd card and appstore work...
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
the sd card is working for me

I have no problems with the sdcard or market. Did you log in with your google account? Also don't use any other data.img. Just start with out one. Thats what I did and everything is working.
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
initrd.gz

I've put up the initrd.gz that I have been using. It works fine for me. You can still use the swap trick with the files posted on the site to give you an extra 32mb of swap.
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
I've had BackInBlack running on my phone since last night and have had no issues. So use all the files posted on my site if you have problems. No more mix and match. All the files at my site will work.
[Touch CDMA General] Bkzn3ne:
What do you mean by dont use any other data. Can you please post or pm me what you did step by step to get it working on the Full Hero
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
If you want the full hero then download:

system-hero-full.img

initrd.gz

Make sure there is no existing data.img on you sdcard. If you want rename any existing data.img files to something else ie data-backup.img. Let it fully boot. It takes a while on first boot but it works. Do your setup and login with your google account. I have a sdhc card and it's working fine. And market works perfect for me. I can also access my music from the music app and it runs and plays fine. If you want try the BackInBlack.img it's alot faster and I know for sure everything works.
[Touch CDMA General] Bkzn3ne:
Thanks alot Z I know u have to hear the same questions everyday. But thank you for taking ur time in explaining
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
Screen Shots and Videos

If anyone out there has a decent camera and wants to take some screen shots or video let me know and I'll post them on the top of the thread.
[Touch CDMA General] keith.mcintyre26:
"failed to find system.img on SD card." Using the hero lite build. Any ideas?
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
Did you rename the system.img file? When downloading the hero .img files you have to rename them system.img in order for it to boot.
[Touch CDMA General] keith.mcintyre26:
Yessir. I have all of the necessary files with proper names.
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
Are they lower case? If you can't get it sorted out I recommend you delete all the files you have right now and start fresh with everything posted at the google code site and put the hero image, initrd.gz, default.txt, and haret in the root of your sdcard ie not in a directory. Rename the hero image to system.img. Edit your default.txt to work with your vogue because some have different panel types or user/password settings. Run haret and boot. I've posted a tutorial at the google code site. That pretty much explains all this. Hope you have better luck this time.
[Touch CDMA General] myshinynewtouch:
Dr. Z - everything works awesome now - previously i was using the minimal data.zip file posted by mssmison to speed up the boot - it did - but at loss of sd card and market place - now it took more time with no data.zip file but finally i got everything working... except for one small thing..

remember the media/resource or audio folders - i am not able to pick up any new ringtones or wallapers from that location...

is there any new names for those folders..

i noticed that root itself has some ringtones and even those are not being seen either... at \system\media\audio\ringtones... man.. i am soo anxious, cant set wallpaper or ringtone - other than that - pretty much everything is like fricking awesome...

and has anyone been able to set the alarm - no matter how i change it - it always resets to 6:00 M-F...
[Touch CDMA General] prodigy2m:
I actually have Market problems too, not that it's not working, it's just doesn't want to download anything. It says starting to download and nothing happens. It stays like that forever until you cancel it. Do you know why this would be happening?
[Touch CDMA General] jamezelle:
mee too i get a vending error when i try to download from the market
[Touch CDMA General] myshinynewtouch:
all i did was first remove the previous data file, and then reinstall android - everything works except for ringtones/wallpapers/alarms... try it - it will work for u too..

if u dont have data, then click on the icon called modem - it will start ur data connection.. that maybe the problem..
[Touch CDMA General] jamezelle:
thats strange ringtones and wallpapers are working for me, alarms and dloading from market are NOT.
[Touch CDMA General] KERKEDAGAIN:
Hmm..that's all strange. Everything works for me! alarms, market, ringtones.

Here's my setup:

-Completely fresh backinblack w/ latest initrd on z's google code page. Bootscript in the initrdupdates folder and the swap.fil on the google page.

-From vilords page i have the resources folder unzipped with the folder "media" on the root of my SD.

With that..I'm lovin it, like Mickey D's!!! Any way/workaround to get the haptic feedback working on long presses? I have the spare parts installed but it doesn't provide the option..
[Touch CDMA General] prodigy2m:
SMS problem

Here, another problem that I found.

When you send sms you get that message that this message is not sent eventhough it did because people receive it. Plus, if I can suggest something I would suggest to strip the sms template to regular like a cupcake one because hero one takes like 2 minutes to load.

Also, wanted to tell you that you did the best job with HERO than anyone else. Keep up , greeeeeeaaaaat job :cool:
[Touch CDMA General] KERKEDAGAIN:
Yeh the not-sent-but-sent issue is known..something about HTC not including something..and about the sms software problem i'd suggest you download a different program like chompSMS or something. Working like a charm for me

*edit* i figured it out..i apparently had an older version of spare parts
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
Hey great fix!!
[Touch CDMA General] mssmison:
it's because the htc messaging app is expecting to be talking to an htc ril. But we have our own ril that was put together for the vogue. The htc messaging app is expecting to get a reply from the ril when an sms is successfull but we don't know that reply and can't put it in the build.
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
new build is up

The new build is up at the google code site. It's very fast and boots straight through to the setup screen in less than 5 min thanks to vilord and mssmision for putting together the new initrd.gz and rootfs.img.
[Touch CDMA General] bangout:
is the audio still lagging?
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
No!! It was fixed in the previous two builds.
[Touch CDMA General] KERKEDAGAIN:
I'm on it..your builds have been superb, sir! Keep up the great work. An observation: it seems the battery level has a mind of his own. It'll be full one second..after like 5 mins of use it drops down to half..then goes back up..then goes below 15% and has shut down on me in about 25 minutes.

However, if I'm not using it, the battery can last all night at about 20%..something no build has accomplished til now.

Is it just me, is it a known issue you're working on?
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
It's a vogue android issue as far as I know. It wasn't 100% in Ion and last I heard vilord or dzo were slowly working on it. I noticed when the battery was around 10-15% in android and I booted back to WinMo the battery was at least 20-30%. Eventually this will be worked out.
[Touch CDMA General] tatnai:
does bootscript.sh work with the latest Hero-8-2-09.zip as well? i'll put it in there anyways, looks like it can't hurt. thx for all the work on this, you are appreciated.
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
No it doesn't work with the new initrd.gz. And the old initrd.gz won't work with this build. But I don't think it needs the extra swap as the initrd.gz creates swap and by using the rootfs.img on the sdcard more main memory is dedicated to android.
[Touch CDMA General] tatnai:
thanks for the quick reply. btw, your comment by the zip of the latest hero build on your google code site says everything's in the zip. have we outgrown the zImage? if not, newbies may not realize that it is still necessary with that wording. thx again.
[Touch CDMA General] KERKEDAGAIN:
Ah..yeh I'd noticed it on the Ion builds as well..okiedoke..i've got your latest backinblack running and fast doesnt begin to describe it!! This build is BLAZING..almost wanna say perfect! (can you put the people widget back in please..haa) How DARE you almost retire the other day?!!!! Excellent work, man!
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
Thanks I didn't notice that.
[Touch CDMA General] nbpanjwa:
THE BEST "HERO" build for vogue....

Everyone must try this Excellent build!!! THE BEST "HERO" build for vogue I have used so far.... GPS, Web, Market, SD, Gmail working like charm... this build is blazing fasssst......zip package is missing Zimage file though... make sure to format SD first and follow instructions.... could not try exchange since I don't know how to setup hotmail account for exchange server (server name, domain etc.) wish I knew how to take screen shots to show my new home screen... Keep up good work "Z". Couple suggestions... could you start adding & keep updating update date and version number in the title of your thread (eg: Zenulator's Hero Build **V2.1 **Update 08-02-2009**) and assign version numbers to your system image, since I think your work will be much appreciated as more testers try it and hence inspire you to go on for long time....
[Touch CDMA General] TheKartus:
I tried the backinblack build and found it just as slow as any other hero build. Not sure why except that maybe I as very low on batter when I did it? I may try it again tomorrow when my phone is charged up for a more fair test. Seems to be getting solid reviews so I don't want to just count it out.
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
Thanks for the kind words as for the extra widgets and programs I've got something cooking up.
[Touch CDMA General] nbpanjwa:
You got to try his latest build at http://code.google.com/p/vogue-hero/ which is in zip package, please don't discourage developers & testers by posting reviews on previous build even after new build has been released.
[Touch CDMA General] TheKartus:
That is the build I used. I have been watching this project and trying each build. I wouldn't post on an old one. I was looking to see if anyone could comment on the low battery making a difference.
[Touch CDMA General] tatnai:
Did you use an old data.img, or let it create a new one? might be something to try. with mssmison's builds, i noticed a definite speed improvement on same builds with new vs old data.img.
[Touch CDMA General] TheKartus:
Tried with a new data.img. I am going to try again tomorrow.
[Touch CDMA General] fireshaper:
I must say zen, this is the fastest build I've used so far. Going to give it a day or two, seems stable enough.
[Touch CDMA General] TheKartus:
Decided to try the build again tonight. Battery is not the issue, not sure what is different here than with other people. Could it be that I'm on a Verizon Vogue and its crippled like most of our phones?

I have all the necessary files, it made a new data image. I am getting like 5-10 seconds of lag between each button press on the setup menus. should I totally clear the SD card of music and all that stuff too?

EDIT: Going to let it sit overnight and chill. See if it catches up to itself.

ALSO: is there no modem program on this build? How else can I kill my data connection besides having the line in the default.txt?
[Touch CDMA General] shadowline:
I must say, this build is great so far. And this is coming from a Kaiser/Tilt user. Keep up the great work on this, I love the hero builds.

One thing though, is there supposed to be a link to the modem app? I haven't tested data yet, but I also don't see the modem app. Just wondering. :D
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
Seriously are you downloading the right files? Nobody else has this problem. If you are using the right files and every thing is really like that then I suggest you format your sdcard to fat32 or buy a new one something like a sdhc class6. It's worth it. I'm using a verizon vogue too so it's not your phone. And to kill data use the Mobile toggle switch. If that doesn't work for you then I'll post the modem.apk to the google code site. Here is the link to the zip http://vogue-hero.googlecode.com/files/Hero-8-2-09.zip you still need zImage on the root of your sdcard. Hope it works out for you because everyone else has hero flying.
[Touch CDMA General] loserskater:
I'm also using this build on a tilt and it's GREAT!!! (besides the SMS issue) And I think the modem app has been replaced by settings>wireless controls>mobile network. And there's a widget to connect and disconnect as well.
[Touch CDMA General] aven_soulgazer:
Is the link to the full or the lite version?

What parameters need to be in default? Same as mssmison's? I tried your first build you posted and been running mssmison's since. Figured it was time to give yours another try.

The only thing I hate is linking up all my facebook to people thing I end up doing everytime.
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
Yes this is the newest and fastest build out and the one I'm sticking with. It's a minimal build and it's 100% for me. Check the top of the thread for more info on it. I'm trying to make it as simple as possible. As for the default.txt it works for all android builds. It's just that some vogues have different panel types. There are three to choose from. And some carriers require a user name and password for data. Those are most likely the only options you need to set.
[Touch CDMA General] aven_soulgazer:
Thanks. I just finished downloading it. I've been running mssmison's full but with the regular home. That way I could show off touchflo when ever I wanted. I'll boot this one up whenever I'm done tethering.
[Touch CDMA General] PeterDLai:
Doh, I only have a 256 MB microSD card on me right now and it seems like that's not enough to run this build (not enough room for swapfile creation during boot).

I guess I'll stick to Cupcake builds until I get a bigger card.
[Touch CDMA General] loserskater:
Has anybody gotten sms to work? I've tried using chompsms and handcent sms but both arent sending messages. The receiving phone wasnt getting them so I know it wasn't just a "sent even though it said it wasnt" situation. And i was able to receive one sms but after that nothing.

I'm running this on a Kaiser so I'm not sure if anybody in this thread would be any help, but I'm using your build so I figured I'd ask you first. :D
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
I just sent a sms I'll let you know how it goes.
[Touch CDMA General] fireshaper:
Just sent a test txt to a friend and he received it and replied even though I got the "text not sent" error. I never received his reply though. Calls seem to be going through fine enough.
[Touch CDMA General] t1mman:
Call in doesn't work for me, with bell canada

Connection is lost when a call is "trying" to get trough but that's all!

I can go to my msgbox, so make a call out!
[Touch CDMA General] TheKartus:
I'm using a 4gb SDHC card. I'll reformat it and try again later. I feel so left out. :(
[Touch CDMA General] myshinynewtouch:
Dr. Z - fastest build ever man... will keep on waiting for ur newer and updated builds.. like some other poster said, is it possible to post all the apps that come with htc hero.. so that users can pick and install anything else they want to..

also, one thing i noticed today morning is, if for some reason if the data connections is lost, it completely slows down the touchflo ui.. and also while picking up calls, it takes three rings before it even displays anything on the screen... and still doesnt display the caller name even though that person is in my phonebook...
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
Hopefully things like this will be worked out soon. And as for the extra apps. I'm going to release another full hero build in the future based on this build. I just want to get this one tested a bit more. I might make a package with some of the missing stuff from the full hero build so you can pick and chose what you want. I don't have much time right now. The only reason I got these builds out so fast was that I was off work for three days and stayed up most of the night testing and scrapping builds until I found what worked and what didn't. Thanks for testing my builds and if you don't mind post which apps and widgets you would like to have.
[Touch CDMA General] fireshaper:
It seems that the camera app is missing... don't know if that has been brought up yet. Anyone have any suggestions for a good camera app?
[Touch CDMA General] briggs81:
nice work. It's a lot faster. I am using it on my polaris, only problem is that data connection keeps getting lost and i have to reboot to reconnect. it also does not remember my menu selection of network roaming. everytime it boots it up it asks me to turn it on, even though i've said it should always be on.

Just wanted to fyi in case anyone else has this problem, you are not alone! I woud suggest trying a different initrd, seems to make a difference.
[Touch CDMA General] keith.mcintyre26:
I would suggest going to settings and then manage data blah blah then "use wireless networks for data connection" or something to that effect. Uncheck and recheck that box. A much better solution than rebooting.
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
The camera is not tested and the camera app from the Ion build would not install on my build. Hence why it's not included. You can try to install one from the market but it most likely won't work. I tried downloading some different camera apps a while ago when I was using Ion and none of them seemed to work.
[Touch CDMA General] fireshaper:
Well, I used SnapTell's camera and it worked but when I used Camera Pro it never brings up the preview screen, I just see a black screen. Going to try a couple others and see what comes of it.
[Touch CDMA General] myshinynewtouch:
zenulator - one thing i missed is the stock market app... is it possible to get that app alone.. and also, just like in manila 2D, it is possible to modify the weather cities database list, my city is not listed and was wondering if u noticed that list being stored some place..
[Touch CDMA General] KERKEDAGAIN:
Hey Z, realize you're back to work so no pressure..i've noticed also that my missed calls doesnt show up in the notifications bar. A MINOR aesthetic issue (it DOES show in the call log). Just wondering if you noticed it/are looking into it...just another point towards perFECtion
[Touch CDMA General] jsun21:
Hey I'd just like to thank you for the nice build, but contrary to what everyone else is saying, these hero builds have been really slow for me. It takes something like 5-10 seconds to start up the contacts app. Anyone know what might be causing this? I'm using a Class 4 sdhc card.
[Touch CDMA General] tatnai:
I've had the same problem using a class 4 card. Time to upgrade.
[Touch CDMA General] vilord:
Zenulator... rather than forking the rootfs, could you please put a file in your system.img called build.zenulator, then we can add your init.rc as init.zenulator.rc and I can add it to my detection code.
[Touch CDMA General] enatefox:
Just started running your build on my ATT Tilt. Perfect build.