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[Touch CDMA Android Development] NarSan:
ok, wifi is working with zen-hero-090809.zip and system - system-kaiser-wifi2.img, but this system is very slow and freezing, and I can't open clock applications (for set time)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
Compcache is giving me 14-19Mb RAM average on 8-15-9. The new builds are nice but 8-15 seems the fastest I've tried.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] natefish:
enatefox, I'm assuming you were using the 8-15 hero yesterday as well. So, are you using the data.img you created when you first ran 8-15 or did you create a new one with the new rootfs?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
There's the new test for Kaiser that mirrors 8-15 and that should be identical to what I'm using.

Any time I swap something out, it's a new data.img for me. I get joy out of reinstalling Linux so setting up my phone's wallpaper in a couple minutes isn't too much to ask.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] JacenSolo2001:
re: system-kaiser-wifi2.img

Awesome - actually detected wifi as it started up....love the look.

Now the negative, between screens, for example when closing out of Google Maps, i get a screen that says HTC for 20 seconds to a minute at times before getting back to desktop, any idea/ideas why?:confused:
[Touch CDMA Android Development] natefish:
albums

When I pick a new wallpaper or browse albums, sometimes all the pics from the sd card are there, sometimes only a fraction (maybe 100 out of 500) are there. What causes this?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
The Album app process takes up as much as 93% of the CPU so it could be timing out.

Thought I'd mention that 8-15 had all of my contacts automatically imported and even ones that Google added like email addresses and pictures. I don't know what other versions work but there were people saying it was a problem.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Homeryz:
Half way to Hero Wifi

I can get wifi to turn on, but it doesn't see any networks.

Can you list what files you you are using?

Thank you

Homer
[Touch CDMA Android Development] natefish:
That means TouchFlo is "crashing." Try restarting. If that doesn't work, try a fresh data image and recheck all your files (rootfs, zImage, etc.). It "shouldn't" be doing that very much with the latest builds. I've had a couple times, but not many.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
same thing here. still haven't figured out what's causing that.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] soccerman821:
i'm having the same problem. i changed the end key to home, then sleep.. and pretty much everytime i press it it restarts touch flo. other than the text msg kick back which is kinda annoying. amazing build, it seems to be so much faster everyday
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
What zImage are you guys using? oh and wifi is not in the images a the vogue-android google code page. The kaiser only wifi test at the vogue-hero google code page is the only one I've put out so far and I'm getting mixed results. I haven't had anyone confirm that they are actually connecting to wireless networks. So I'm not going to put it in the other builds unless I know it works. Also try the zImage-14-08-09 or zImage-13-08-09.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
tried zImage-13-08-09 and 15-08-09

same results.

upgrading radio now to see if it helps.

what radio are you using?

EDIT: sorry, just remembered you don't have a kaiser :(
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cmus:
wifi

Can confirm also that wifi turns on but does not find any networks. Also does not connect to my network if I manually set up the connection.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
In my case,

wifi turns on and, sometimes, even scans and returns results, but when I try to connect, nothing.

(although most of the times simply does not find any networks.)

Turning wifi off and on, sometimes returns scans and added networks as in range, but can't connect.

And If I get out of preferences and return, even the added networks previously in range are then always out of range, and scans return nothing.

Seems wifi is not really up by the time I try to connect. May be up for a very short time.

Since the images don't have terminal in them (or I can't find it) can't really provide more info...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
can you download better terminal from the market or use adb logcat?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
:-) if I had wifi

no data plan on this phone
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
oh...what about downloading one from the web on your computer and putting it your sdcard in /AndroidApps/
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tembares:
Zenulator, can I use 'Log Collector' to provide you the log file you need?

Using system-kaiser-wifi2.img.

I do not use or know how to use adb. I run Ubuntu on my laptop.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] ussuss:
I be happy to help, what logs do you want?

Will it help with logs from both 13-08-09 and 15-08-09?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Homeryz:
Hero Wifi WORKING!

Ok this is the story.

Got the bundle from http://vogue-hero.googlecode.com/files/zen-hero-090809.zip

and replaced zimage with http://vogue-android.googlecode.com/files/zImage-14-08-09a

and of course system file with http://vogue-hero.googlecode.com/files/system-kaiser-wifi2.img

I had to reboot after turning on wifi, but wifi is working rock solid.

Thanks Zenulator, dzo and enatefox for your great work.

Homer
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
:):):)

I confirm wifi works with zImage-14-08-09a

a bit of a mess by now, but I think I have:

SuperHero081609.zip

+ zImage-14-08-09a

+ system-kaiser-wifi2.img

+ rootfs-2009-08-15.zip
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
we're talking completely connected and able to browse the web? because wifi starts but people aren't connecting. so it's of no use if you can't connect to a wireless network.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
no, this time really connects. :)

well, added weather widget and updated via wireless.

browsing also works, etc.

Oh, and thank you very much, of course :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
great news. i'll put a bundle up at the vogue hero site with just those files. is your default.txt kaiser specific?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Homeryz:
Yep I'm using for AT&T Tilt

set RAMSIZE 0x07000000

set RAMADDR 0x10000000

set FBDURINGBOOT 0

set MTYPE 1553

set KERNEL zImage

set initrd initrd.gz

set cmdline "board-htckaiser.panel_type=0 ppp.apn=wap.cingular ppp.username=WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM ppp.password=CINGULAR1 pm.sleep_mode=1 mddi.width=320 mddi.height=480 lcd.density=160 msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=32000000 no_console_suspend board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=1"

boot

Homer
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
normal kaiser default.txt AFAIK:

set RAMSIZE 0x07000000

set RAMADDR 0x10000000

set FBDURINGBOOT 0

set MTYPE 1553

set KERNEL zImage

set initrd initrd.gz

set cmdline "board-htckaiser.panel_type=0 ppp.nostart=1 pm.sleep_mode=1 mddi.width=320 mddi.height=480 lcd.density=160 no_console_suspend board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=1"

boot
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
i found a free working camera app in the market. search for fxcamera. it works pretty well..
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
hey man thanks alot great find:D
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
Making me wish the camera worked for Kaiser... in case anyone was thinking it would I just saved you a download.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
too late :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] ibanezbass:
i just wish the sms notification worked right... :( its irratating that it vibrates and says failed message everytime i send one... any workarounds or fixes?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] killabee44:
Kaiser vs Vogue..

Guys,

Im a little confused. Will these builds work with the vogue?

Im asking since the Kaiser is mentioned so much...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] soccerman821:
yes all these are made for the vogue.. i have no idea why kaiser seems to have taken over this thread momentarily
[Touch CDMA Android Development] ibanezbass:
Hmm do u have to use a certain initrd to make compcache work? Rite now it shows used men 96000 free men 4900 cached 32000 ... is that rite?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] KERKEDAGAIN:
Feel ya on the vibrate..to get rid of that all you gotta do is go to settings and turn off vibrate under notifications (i've learned to kinda use the 'not sent' message as a SENT confirmation, haa)

Other workaround is to dload ChompSMS or handcent as these dont popup a failed message in the notification bar..
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
the vogue images for the new builds are at http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android/downloads/list thats also where the new rootfs.img with compcache is.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] loserskater:
I posted this a couple pages back and I was using the 8-9-09 build.

Here's what I've noticed with sms: I tried sending myself mulitple messages using chomp sms, handcent, and the default messages app. The only ones that seem to go through for me are from the default app. Chomp and handcent don't seem to even go out.

(for anybody interested) I turned off the notifications in the default app and turned them on through SMS Popup and now I don't get the failed message, but still get notified of incoming.

It's happened with newer builds too. Haven't tried the latest though.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
Everything here is Vogue oriented so unless it states explicitly that it's Kaiser or wifi then you are okay to use it. Only thing is at the moment that enabling a build for wifi will not boot on a Vogue-- only reason for the distinction. If you have a Vogue, don't worry just don't boot Kaiser mods.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] JacenSolo2001:
This is what I was using: (exact same settings as Homeryz's)

The only thing I can add, apart from thanks for all the work, we're so much closer to a permanent replacement for WinMo, is I've found that when i'm using WiFi, and switch back to 3g, the 3g keeps turning off until i restart my phone.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
There's an issue with the HTC mail widget. I was totally on it's team but it makes TouchFlo crash 10/10 times. Damn, I'll just use the over 9000 other ways to access it but thought I'd mention it.

I'll look tomorrow into DMA wifi with compcache support. Once that's tested it will be available. All the fun you've had with with wifi but with 10x+ the speed.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] DWC316:
well, i dozed off and woke up 2 1/2 hrs later and it was still on the same screen with a blinking cursor cmd prompt on the bottom left corner
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheKartus:
Right, that is not good. Try wiping all the files off and trying again. Make sure you have the correct resolution and stuff.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] ghostrid3r:
what is written on the last line in white txt?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] hexto:
I just don't get this build. It looks awesome but its so slow that its completely unusable and unresponsive. Right from start up I have to force close or wait. When I try to make a call the phone resets back to WM. I changed my panel_type to 3 as usual. I'm back on DZO's latest build which always works.

Anyone know why this is or if its just me? I'd love to use this build but it would have to be faster and way more stable. Right now I can't even make calls on it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] drprince89:
The couple of times ive had that issue it was either because i didnt rename my zimage file. Check that all your files are named properly.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kdub94:
connection problems

I have a sprint branded vogue, and while i am running this android i cannot connect to my vista. it is asking for drivers. Do you guys know of any drivers that would allow me to connect. Please help!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] DWC316:
what should the file name be cause i havnt renamed any of them
[Touch CDMA Android Development] W00fer:
I hate the "start automatic backup" on earlier Android builds i didn't get that option.

After first boot, why is it neccesary to make ANOTHER backup ?

Seems useless
[Touch CDMA Android Development] fixxxer2008:
im hoping for mass storage support soon.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] atx1980:
Its shame you are not going to work on sms!

Thats the only thing that does not work on my sprint htc touch.

Hero build works perfect but that!

I wish i knew how to work on these builds i would help!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] atx1980:
The system file is named wrong. I had this problem.

Rename it just system in the file explorer.

del the data file for the first boot, it will boot faster!

It will make a data file in the install.

Give that a try!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] hexto:
What's there to hate? If you do nothing it goes away in seconds and doesn't create a back up.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
Try reading a little; you can only use adb to connect right now.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] brunes:
First of all, thanks again zen for all the work.

Don't want to rock the boat here - but if a new thread is being started... since all the hosting for android dev is moving to Google code, why are people not moving the development discussion there as well?

The Google Code wiki combined with Google Groups is a vastly superior discussion platform than xda-developers IMO... It is really hard to find info scouring through old phpbb threads with their poor searching, vs. the great searching in Google Groups or in a Google code wiki.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] drprince89:
just make sure no dates follow them, system should only be system.img zimage shouldnt say 08-04-2009 after it, etc.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jaredakelly:
downloading zen's build for the first time. is a blank data file needed or can we use an existing one?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheKartus:
Your going to need to have it setup a blank one.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] derekwilkinson:
lol... your ignorance is laughable. :rolleyes:
[Touch CDMA Android Development] hexto:
lol:) I agree.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] robertkirkland:
Love It!!!

The startup animation is great. Andriod is great. Hero is great. But i will stick with the ion until this is just a wee bit faster and on USCC (my carrier) cant get sms to work, says it cant send them but sends them anyway, and wont recieve them but cant wait til we can get it all working and just make it a rom think as a stand alone it will be grea, thxs for the great job
[Touch CDMA Android Development] JacenSolo2001:
10x the speed? Sounds cool - unfortunately I'm not sure what compcache is or more importantly, how to make it work!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
Unless I hear back soon, give me a little bit to look over the new updates in the last couple of days to get something together. With DMA, we will be able to directly access the wifi driver. Currently it is all being translated like if you read English, though it out in Spanish then wrote back into English-- it's slow. DMA skips that overhead so it's insanely faster and takes less CPU away from apps.

Compcache is a compressed virtual swap file that is resident in memory. It is beyond cool but the main point is that without it, just a swap file, I got about 1.5-2Mb of RAM free with Hero. With it, I get about 14-20Mb RAM free. That's a huge difference in performance. We just need the two together now.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mixxy:
srry, but could u help me understand how exactly we can take advantage of compcache with these builds?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] omgwtfbbqkthxbai:
use them! :D
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
There's a rootfs.img that says compcache in the description both on Vogue-Android and Vogue-Hero (where builds have been uploaded). There is also one that has a test for wifi using DMA. They are seperate and I'll look at a merge of the two. For now, I recommend testing compcache. The speed is remarkable.

I just figured out that if you go to settings and disable automatic backlight, you can adjust screen brightness. I thought this was an issue since it's not a problem on ION so anyone else mad at the dim screen, there's your fix
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mixxy:
im srry if i wasnt clear before, but what i mean to say was that currently while booting up a system image, i read text that says that compcache is setting the ram usage as default i think its approximately 25%, is it not possible for us to dedicate more?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
You absolutely can. I've read that a swapiness of 20-30 is ideal as well. Like I said, I had nothing to do with getting it to work but I'm going to look it over and see the settings. As is, I get up to about 20Mb of free RAM with Hero and 4 pages of widgets while online with it so yea, it makes a difference. If you saw those messages then it's working but you might notice some errors/warnings too.

You can go to the terminal and type "free" to see the amount of memory free and in use if you want to benchmark. Also, Benchmark in the Market can give some useful readings to compare
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mixxy:
thanks a lot for the pointers.. ill check them out and see how it goes =)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] joannerve:
No solution for vibration=freeze. Disabled all vibrations but vibrates when a call is answered or deleting widgets. Tested diferent default.txt, roms and radios and nothing
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
It would have nothing to do with radio, ROM and definately not the default/startup.txt.

I don't know if anyone else is experiencing freezes like that. There's a dev tools app and an extra-something app that can give more options. I forget but one has a Haptic Feedback option. Also, there's the lock pattern option to have feedback. I would turn them all on then off in a row and try it to narrow down the issue. If you do every one and it doesn't freeze you can start to test which is the problem.

Also, vilord uploaded a new rootfs.img with compcache and DMA for wifi together. There's some mention of issues with wifi but I think that was the zImage. Anyways, test test test.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] myshinynewtouch:
zenulator - i tried to use your pure black hero img, my vogue gets into a loop with the htc logo and hero logo.. dont know what i did wrong, i copied all the contents of your zip file, removed every single file from previous android system, copied over all your new files, fresh data img, everything.. all i had to modify was the default.txt file to add the vogue_panel = 0, cause for some reason the autodetect doesn't work on my vogue.. and the usual sprint 2 or 3 doesn't work either...

is all the support for kaiser and other phones messing up our vogue builds ? (probably the stupidest reason, but don't know why i am getting these problems as they never used to be before)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
You did use the one originally posted, without my name in the description right? The one with it is for Kaiser and the one without is for Vogue. Enabling the wifi interface is problematic on Vogue since it doesn't have one thus it loops.

It should be this one:

http://vogue-android.googlecode.com/files/PureBlack081609.zip as Vogue-Hero project has the ones with wifi.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] gjbnh:
Just saying

I'm using the roots.img with compcache and it sure seems MORE unstable and not as fast.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
Can you show how much slower it is? If you can get ADB working it would be easy to take a screenshot but either way, in a terminal, type "free" and look at the total free and used RAM at the bottom.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
wouldn't the usage of both compcache

and

a swapfile be benefitial?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
Not necessarily. It really depends on what you use your phone for. There is overhead to manage de/compression in and out of ramzswap so for many small apps it may not be beneficial however a large app that needs a swap it should help a lot.

If you're maxing out your memory from one then having both means more swap free but it isn't inherently better to have both if it's not being used.

Also, you can have both but you wouldn't know what is causing a boost or decrease in speed since you can't tell as the end user which one is being utilized so for a benchmarking standpoint, you couldn't gain very useful data to compare.

Again, it's all up to how you use the phone. I recommend Benchmark for starters to give a quantitative amount on performance.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] myshinynewtouch:
I will try it out tonight and report back, but compcache seems to be a bit faster on my donut build, haven't really put it thru its paces yet.. but the speed of donut when using a single application is amazing... its only when i am listening to music and doing something else, donut is a little slow... but gotta try donut with compcache and figure out...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
Just saying that having a swapfile with a lower priority could prevent crashes from failed memory allocations.

On the other hand, an experiment with a striped compcache+swapfile might give some interesting performance results (or not :-/ )
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
I don't see any indicator that it's needed but now that they're available we can tune it. There are some errors at bootup and getting those worked on should help out a lot. There has to be some sweet spot. I know there's some work on trying to force Rosie to reside in memory, preferably ramzswap. It's been optimized from over 4Mb to about 400Kb as an app so it should be able to be forced from closing in the background.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] plemen:
I'm using the PureBlack image and it is pretty usable - to increase speed I'm trying to disable Touchflo and I noticed that the default Android Home isn't installed (or available) - how can I enable/install the default Android home?

Thanks
[Touch CDMA Android Development] JacenSolo2001:
Rosie = TouchFlo ?:confused:
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
Touchflo is the interface for Rosie I believe. Or it's referred to as SenseUI.

I'm pretty sure that the original home is included but Rosie might be the default home. Go to Settings > Apps > Rosie/TouchFlo/Whatever and click Clear Default then you should get a prompt. There's an app on the Vogue-Hero page for toggling between them

http://vogue-hero.googlecode.com/files/ymst.android.homeswitcher.apk and I think that's what you're referring to.

Also, I'll just leave this here:

http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f52/bar-control-quick-shortcut-app-15733/
[Touch CDMA Android Development] natefish:
Dude, you have ESP. I was just coming to this thread to ask how to switch between touchflo and normal home! Thanks.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
Can you try it also?

This seems a lot snappier to me, and made those annoying "loading" screens dissapear:

su

dd if=/dev/zero of=/sdcard/swapfile bs=1024 count=65536

mkswap /sdcard/swapfile

swapon /sdcard/swapfile

This means the swapfile will have a lower priority (at least I think so, but don't have the swapinfo command) and will only be used when compcache is exausted (can happen at peaks).
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
I think I recall something about not exceeding 30Mb for swap but don't have a reference. Only thing is the wear from dumping to swap on the SD card. I can't believe it's worse than running Android from it anyways and they are cheap..

I'll try it now and see how it goes.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] bensmiller:
I just tried out the latest hero build for the vogue I beilive it was the SuperHero setup I think it is working great but the one thing that seems to always make me want to wait on hero is that the alarms cant be changed and thats important sense I use my phone to wake me up in the morning. Other than that I think its looking great.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
did the tests with pureblack, huge difference.

was trying to do the test with superhero, but doesn't seem to have the superuser permissions app, so I can't su...