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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] net_walker:
Totally agree with and like that "tweak the hell out of it and leave it pretty much bare bones so it can be customized to your liking"
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Supertrooper:
Glad to see your not messing around or wasting any time with this. Heck, on the second day with my new Rhoduim, I still couldn't set it down. Looking forward to your work.
[G1 General] fahadayaz:
Considering its limited memory, I was wondering when everyone thinks the G1 is likely to reach the end of its usefulness.. especially as android develops and requires better hardware to power it.

Any ideas?
[G1 General] jashsu:
I know for certain this topic has been discussed in this subforum atleast two times. Maybe you could join the discussion in those threads?
[G1 General] CrazyEye:
I know you weren't looking for an answer like this but I suppose it depends on the actual user of the phone, when I had my LG Vu (I know its not a smart phone) I loved it for about a week and absolutely needed a new phone, while my father has his LG Vu and uses it all the time and doesn't even think about getting a new phone since his does the job.

To me this phone will be good for a year or two before I decide to move further, unless I'm influenced to get a different phone which I probably would be :D
[G1 General] aceo07:
I'm hoping that Android in develop and improve in such a way that it will optimize the use of the current hardware. Optimize the hardware drivers, improve the coding, etc.

Considering that the Dream, Magic, Hero all have the same CPU, I do hope they make more progress on optimizing it for the CPU.
[G1 General] Karolis:
As long as there's a single dev still doing something for G1, it will not die. And after that it will still take some time.

Just go to the forums of some of the really old devices - they're still active.
[G1 General] xdviper:
True, I still visit the Tmobile Shadows forum on this site and there are still roms being cooked for it.
[G1 General] jaboswell:
I change phones almost every year if not 2 times a year....but havent changed my phone since I got the G1 because...and it still impresses friends almost every week....
[G1 General] benmyers2941:
This is so true. I first found this site when I got an HTC Wizard. When I got it the model had long since been discontinued, but the developers here were still active. With what I got here it managed to put an old phone on par with many new models.

Personally until an android phone comes out with a significantly better processor, screen, camera, and with a physical keyboard, I'm probably not going anywhere.
[G1 General] Chahk:
G1 will die when someone releases a phone with twice the processing power, hardware-accelerated 3D, a decent camera (5+ MP, autofocus, flash) true multitouch screen, and at half the power consumption.
[G1 General] ei8htohms:
it may never truly die

Just Google "nanoloop" to see how long a cult object can outlive its perceived consumer life cycle. I see the G1 as having great potential for achieving cult status, due in part to its homely chin. :)
[G1 General] imbonez9:
Like those above have said i honestly don't see this ever dying out. This was and is the first Android phone and for the fact i see it always being around being worked on.
[G1 General] Nooty:
The G1 will die:

1. After the iPhone dies

2. After all the devs stop developing <- highly unlikely

3. When T-Mobile makes a huge mistake

Just my two cents.
[G1 General] damichi84:
Cult Status probably not but long lifetime

The G1 in my opinion does not have that much of a cult status potential since today the lifecycle is wa quicker than in 1989. I mean the GB was produced for like 8-10 years! Mine still works and would never sell it or give it away.

I know that I will want a new phone in probably a year (or whenever the next nice android device WITH a hardware keyboard and a better camera + batterylife) will come out. But even then I will keep my G1 as second navigation device? GPS dataloger? Mobile Router? Remote Control?....

there is so much great softwware that works great on the G1 hardware and unless you dont want to run som stupid 3D UI or game on it I dont see a reason to get rid of it.
[G1 General] ajarmeh104:
with all my respect to all those who love their G1: i would like to give my opinion;;;;;

this phone (G1) is a complete crap, it does not worth a penny, and it is a BIG failure for Tmo, Google, and HTC. it is nothing but a piece of sh***. they should have done a lot more development and testing before they released it to the public. they did not give it to us for free,, we paid a lot of $ for it. and it DOES NOT WORK.

sorry for the language but honestly i consider my G1 as the worst purchase i have made in my whole life. it is a FRAUD and is AREADY DEAD.
[G1 General] BSDADON:
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." Haha. But on a serious note and I mean no offense by this but if you have so much hatred for the G1 why are you on this forum? Some people pay way more for a phone that does less and is way worse than you believe this phone to be. Granted everyone is looking for different things. Perfect example a co-worker bought a blackberry bold and hated it with a passion, his son however loved it (me I would never consider paying more for what I deem an inferior phone). So it is all personal preference, but I don't see this phone dying anytime soon unless another phone with better specs and a full keyboard comes along.
[G1 General] ajarmeh104:
dear BSDADON and all:

Iam here on this forum trying to find solutions and fixes for things and issues of the G1 that should NEVER have been issues to begin with. example: apps2sd;;;;; how come Tmo and Google sell the phone without this feature and with almost no internal memory????? and what is more funny is that they give you the market app??? where are we expected to install apps????

another example is the email client: they shipped the phone with email that does NOT work with exchange servers,,,,, and even when you find a server that is supported (POP3), then the only way you can empty the trash is to uninstall the application.... WTF ?????? isnt that a FRAUD????

the basic functionality of the G1 is compromised FOR NOTHING..... there are many times when the phone fails to wake up on incoming calls....

all the things that people are looking for here are things that should have been supported by the first release of G1.....
[G1 General] jashsu:
Man... you should probably pop a valium or something. It's a phone, not genocide.

- internal memory. This is obviously a weakpoint, but it doesn't affect everyone equally. For example I only keep about a dozen apps installed at any given time. My guess is most users who have hundreds of apps installed are not using them all on a frequent basis.

- exchange email. First, you have to understand that the G1 is targeted firstly as a consumer device. Most consumers do not need exchange mail access. That said, there is nothing keeping Android implementers from adding exchange support if they wish, which is exactly what we're seeing HTC do now on some of their self-branded phones.

- incoming calls. I've never had my phone fail to wake or ring on an incoming call. Perhaps this is a network issue or you have a custom android build installed? Generally speaking the "stock" builds are very responsive to incoming calls. There is a thread in the dev subforum that roughly compares various builds and their incoming call alertness.
[G1 General] aceo07:
Too bad you have so many issues with the G1.

How many apps do you have installed and how many do you actually use? I doubt most people have more than 30-40 apps installed that they used more than a few times. It has enough space for at least that many and probably more.

Not all phone support Exchange, in fact most don't. Even iphone didn't for a long time. Android does have the ability to use Exchange now if you have the right official or custom build. It is not 'fraud' when a feature is missing or overlooked. If you go overboard with how you describe issues, people won't take you seriously.

I have not read any issues with G1 being unresponsive on receiving calls on the official build. If you are having unresponsive functionality while using a custom build or any app that may be conflicting, then it is not a problem with the G1. I've experience slowness when I used the overclock app, but I had underclocked it to 128mhz. That was MY fault. If you are having problems with the official G1 build with no apps installed, than maybe it's time to talk to T-Mobile and get it replaced since nobody else has that problem.

In an ideal world, everything would be perfect on the first release. It's almost never that way. There are very few exception to this, but they are probably never always perfect either. I suppose NASA or Dept of Defense could get the first release to be perfect.. but DoD has over $700,000,000,000 budget. Also the phone would cost more than what most people would want to pay.. also it would take a long time to before it got released..
[G1 General] anddep:
For me, as long as the is still workin its useful until something else catches my eyes.. but nothin haven't yet and there so much u can do with the g1.

EDIT- yea if there is atleast one dev still grindin the g1 will never die
[G1 General] sha.goyjo:
I'm not going to answer certain inane rantings (see above), I only feel the need to say the following.

Look at the forum for the HTC wizard. It has seen very little traffic since 2008. On the other hand, I would advise people to keep their wizards rather than buy a newer phone, because of what we do here on XDA. It's making the software do incredible things that makes hacking what it is. It's what makes open source glorious. Personally, continually buying new things just because the hardware is better only supports the standard microsoft/apple/ibm/everyotherestablishedcompany method of releasing new hardware with primitive software implementations. Just look at what we've done with the dream so far:

Apps to SD

Media to SD

Root Access

Full CPU Scaling

VPN Access

Themes

Scripts

Volume Hacks

Faster Charge Times

Better WIFI and Bluetooth system integration....

the list goes on. And as long as the Dream remains the easiest android phone to root, it's going to keep extending.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndyCr15:
I have all my appointments on Outlook. Outlook syncs with my Google Calendar, which has the families appointments on too.

My new HTC Hero syncs with Outlook... it would seem it also Sync's with Google Calendar.

Now I have all my appointments in the Calendar twice! Is there a simple way not to show the Outlook ones? Should I just remove it from the Sync list in HTC Sync?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rhedgehog:
yes to the last bit.

I don't know of any way to clear it, but if everything is in google, reset it and sign in and away you go. everything comes back from teh servers.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndyCr15:
Okay, thanks. Although, when I connect my Hero now, it doesn't show connected with HTC Sync... (I'm using W7)

Also, I've been to my Google Calendar online, lots of things were duplicated, so I've deleted them away. Google Cal Sync has removed these from Outlook, now I have some in Google Calendar and some in Outlook calendar but not all of them in both, even when I run Google Cal Sync...?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndyCr15:
**pressed once, it posted twice?**
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] eigerzoom:
My understanding is that there are people who have the TP2 activated here in the US...

but 3g doesn't work since it uses a different band in EU

so...the million dollar question...

is this hardware or software issue and eventually fixable with a rom upgrade in the future?

thanks for your input
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] At0mAng:
Since the hardware is very much like the Raphael hardware I would guess that the correct hardware needs to be in place for US 3G. I hope I am wrong since I have a euro version TP2 here in the states.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] eigerzoom:
yeah...its looking like hardware...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dgourd:
It is a hardware thing. They are on different bands (Quad band and tri-band).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] At0mAng:
I dont think it is even bands...my TP2 is quad band I believe and can not get 3G with AT&T.

Bands for my phone Quad Band 850/900/1800/1900
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] eigerzoom:
yah plenty of US ppl have them but the euro models only have 3g on 2100mhz (basically wifi???)

usa 3g is on different band...

the quad bands are for phone use (i think...but i'm a noob)

att 3g is 850.1900 tibble is 1700 and telstra is 850/1900

so if i understand it right...to gain 3g on different band besides 2100 (wifi/eu) you are looking at hardware
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmonex:
what does wifi have anything to do with this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] eigerzoom:
uh...lol...dont mind me

im just a nub

i should have said wcdma

astain hellbinger (im sure i mispelled that) has been home schooling me...

and he represents any knowlede i have tried to represent here...

forgive my crude interpretation

some of it is sticking though...lol
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] skyler17:
If you purchased a quadband unlocked TP2, you will never be able to get US 3G on it unless you can get the hardware modified (which in all likelihood, you can't).

If you have a TP2 with triband then it will either support AT&T (850/1900/2100) or T-mobile USA (850/1700/2100). A phone model will probably not come out that supports both T-mobile and AT&T 3G frequencies. This would require a quadband phone with (850/1700/1900/2100). A phone with all four of those frequencies has never been made.

EDGE will work on almost all carriers, world-wide, on a quadband phone EDGE will work on most carriers world-wide on a triband phone.

850 is mostly used for EDGE (both up and downlink). 1700/1900 are commonly used for uplink 3G. 2100 is commonly used for downlink 3G.

I hope that this clears things up.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] labbbby:
As mentioned above, internal hardware is almost identical as the Raphael.

This thread gathered the most information for 3G Raphael in the US.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=420865&page=40

So probably hardware and no go although LTxda mentioned bricking his Raphael trying to get 3G working with Elite's team and cmonex, so maybe she as something to add !? =Þ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gehzumteufel:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
[myTouch 3G, Magic Apps and Games] Dayzee:
Is there anything like this? I can do it in gmail on my web book, but not from my fone gmail app.

I've been on a flext contract which included mms, but my next one doesn't so I wanted to use email/gmail to do the same really. I know I can attach a pic, and in the absence of anything else, that will do. Just wondered if there was an app that could actually put it into the body of the mail like an mms.

If not, there should be ;) Any ideas appreciated.

Daisy xx
[myTouch 3G, Magic Apps and Games] correia23:
I don´t know any app that do that but i think i could try to do that.

Why not i was thinking in creating some app for android.

When i finish the app i will post the link here or in the android market.

:)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 2005 Upgrading] khonje:
Network is locked please help with unlock code for xda 2 02 smartphone windows mobile fccdd,nm8himalaya serial number or unlocking software with the drivers

help..
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] EraserHR:
Can I somehow tweak the TF3D Weather tab in order to expand the selection of cities?

I live in Croatia, and I can only select 4 cities in the weather tab. However, AccuWeather.com has weather information for a lot more of them. Can I somehow get some of them to show on my Diamond?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] NewDiamond09:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=408918&highlight=weather
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] gsm44:
No easy way to do it but THIS might help and you can read THIS as well.

Hope this helps
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] maxmax72:
I tried tjis te switch off the bluetooth warning:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel]

@=""

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Notifications\{607CDEA2-E44A-4528-A2C3-A7DC6B6D824D}]

"AvailableOptions"=dword:00000009

"Default"="Bluetooth warning"

"Options"=dword:00000000

Now I have the Setting, but it has no Effekt. It´s a german Rom an yes, I have made a reset after installing the patch.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] maxmax72:
does nobody have the same problem?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] V6-Maniac:
You can try the attached file below.

I forgot where i got it.

But it worked for me verry well.

What does it do:

It gives you an extra option in the sound and notification setup.

It's called "Bluetooth Warning".
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] eac:
The cab does exactly what maxmax72 did.

And Max, no, you're not alone :)

I did the trick, but still have this "nice" notification in place.

It's true that the notification window doesn't show up, but the notification icon does.

And if I tap the taskbar, then in the notification screen I can see that my hands free was disconnected... Wauuu, is it so?!? I didn't know... Thanks for telling me.:rolleyes:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] maxmax72:
time to push it to the top. any new ideas?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DavidMal:
I did worked for me for second time. I had to turn warning on and than off and it stoped poping warning. I hope it will stay that way.

Edit: It does pop the message, but not exactly after disconection, but few minutes later...IDK how does it work.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RelicXII:
This works!
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] LuGoFe:
For all HTC P4350 users --> http://www.htcspain.com/showthread.php?t=23279&page=1&pp=10

:P
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] dieselboy:
hi all,

i travel on the underground trains a lot, and sometimes its the only time i get to write / reply to text messages.

however when i click send all i get it "SMS CANNOT BE SENT" message and it gets saved in my drafts. then i have to remember later to re-send them.

is there not a way that we can queue the messages in our outbox so that the phone immediately sends when it gets reception?

my old phones used to do this but it seems newer ones dont..

many thanks!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] dieselboy:
just wanted to ask if people understand what i mean? i found a similar topic to this form last year with no replies also.

my old HTC (200mhz windows mobile 5) had no issues with this, so may be this is just a registry fix... ?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] vishalkishnani:
There is an easy way to do this...

type all the message in ur Tube Train :-)

once all the messages are there in your drafts, go into your drafts folder, select all the messages and click menu>move and move it to outbox. Once your phone will get the reception sms will automatically go

Regards,

Vishal
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] dieselboy:
see but this is the problem, if i do not have reception already then sms get automatically moved from the outbox back to the drafts folder.

i know you are trying to be helpful but i want it to do something different! :D

imagine this, you are on the tube, then you get off and make your way through the crowds up to the street level onto a crowded busy street where just standing in one place would be in somebodys way.. so i walk to where i have to get to and immediately once i am there the client will be asking me questions or i will be working to make a good impression for us..

it leaves little time, and by the time i would remember i would already be at home wondering why i havnt had a reply! :eek:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] dieselboy:
someone must know where to point me to find an answer?? i cant be the only one! :eek:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] dieselboy:
i've asked on a few more windows forums to see if anyone knows. ive also had a look through the registry myself to see if there is anything obvious which there isnt..

i'll keep posting back with my findings.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] gkaravid:
I really understand what you mean. That little thing keeps annoying me too, most of the times I believe I've sent the message but I haven't, leading me to missunderstandings.

My old Nokia n70 didn't have any problems with that....sometimes I miss that phone so much!

Please write down here whatever you find...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Söderström:
found a similar thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=411326
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Söderström:
Maybe this will help you with your problem

http://iwindowsmobile.com/threaded-sms-messaging.html

using the multi sms sending function
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] dieselboy:
no that will not help. threaded sms is a PITA and is not what we are wanting.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] dieselboy:
yea so im getting no where with this.

its strange because this works fine on WM5 :eek:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Paulplex:
Hi all,

Happily listening to music with Core Player on the TP2 I received last Saturday and the phone lit up with a message from Core Player that it wanted to update my media library, following the removal of the SD Card.

Suffice to say, I was confused: no chance with the SD card hidden under the battery cover that it could have been loose and fallen out but checking through File Manager on the phone, the SD card can't be seen at all.

Put said card into an adapter and then card reader on my PC; it comes up to suggest there is no card inserted: put the same card via adapter into my digital camera and the camera refuses to even turn on with the card in.

It's a duff card I'm sure - bit peeved since it wasn't that old but meh: don't trust all eBay sellers selling 'genuine' SanDisk products I guess - however, whilst I await the arrival of a new one, could it be my TP2 that has damaged the card in some way? Has anyone else noted problems with the TP2 and higher capacity SD cards?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] whtrbt7:
FlashROM based cards only have a certain number of writes. Same goes for SSDs. They should have a way to track number of writes to cards. I've had official Sandisk cards go bad on me within the first year too. Don't forget that static shocks from your clothes can actually damage the card. Also don't forget that your phone can corrupt your data if it's in the middle of a read/write op and you remove the card.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Paulplex:
Thanks for your thoughts mate: it wasn't removed from the phone and the phone only had CorePlayer running on it at the time - so I don't think it was anything I'd done :)

I think I got duped by someone on eBay selling a 'Geninue' Sandisk card that perhaps wasn't - I've read here than Danetec are also quite good so I've ordered one of them directly: fingers crossed I have more luck with my second one!

I was more concerned with it possibly being my phone - I read a month or so back on the Diamond2 forum that 16GB cards didn't work so well with that phone and wondered if any forumites here had noted any issues with the TP2 and certain SD cards, thats all...