yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G1 Android Development] senaia:
If xrom 1.6 is going to be fully donut like cyans recent builds, I have a feeling we're not gonna see it till google oficially releases it, still gonna be worth waiting for :)
[G1 Android Development] zimphishmonger:
I believe google just recently finalized the Donut source code.....should be complete, i think.

EDIT: To the xRom team, any plans to update to stericson's new lockscreen (w/ fully functioning ICE and music player)
[G1 Android Development] Tydiz:
I thought I would just point out that Google isn't giving Cyanogen a hard time because of the Rom itself, just its packaging. Since he is packaging Google products with out Google's autorization, he is in direct violation of a bunch of licensing bizniz.

I honestly am not too worried about this...Google distributes their apps to ANYONE free of charge on their repository. Because of this, Cyanogen(or any other modded ROM) can add something to the introduction after installation(and wipe) that says "You don't have these specific Google apps on your phone; Would you like me to download them for you" and if the user gives consent than their is no violation, just as long as in that introduction their is access to Google's Terms of Service for using those apps.

JAC, you should probably keep this in mind because I'm sure its not just going to be Cyanogen's ROM that will be taking the heat for all this after a couple of weeks. Start backing up all your Google apps, just in case ;)

Edit: Actually, I just read some of Cyanogen's recent twitter's, he's really starting to freak out about things...I guess I'm starting to get a little worried....
[G1 Android Development] blueheeler:
@ Tydiz :

Interesting that you mention the Google apps in a repository. I wondered about that earlier today.

Would you happen to know the URL to the repository?

Are they pre-built packages (apk files)?

Or do they have to be built from source?

Thanks.

And I've been keeping up with Cyanogen's tweets too. I don't think he's freaking out, I think he just feels defeated. I can't speak for him, but I know he's put a lot of work into all of this. I think e mentioned at one time that he would love the opportunity to go to work for the Google Android team (or maybe it was just work-with the team, not sure). Those hopes may never come about now due to hard feelings. I don't know. It's all just sad. I think we've all had a shocking couple of days. Hopefully the venting will die down over the weekend, reality will set in, Google will come to their senses and fire their legal team, etc :) At least we can hope. All I do know is I feel really sorry for the devs at this point. All the work they've put into this and everything hanging upside right now. Urgh. That upsets me the most.
[G1 Android Development] Tydiz:
I'm not sure where it would be located actually...I'm actually not 100% about it existing but d I'm thinking that it would have to exist since Cyanogen released the new market app(which would be one of these apps that are closed source) and also when new releases of Google Maps appeared before their official releases, it only makes sense that those were snatched from somewhere public. Also, they would have to be APK's because they are closed source and SIGNED by Google, which is why we are having this issue.

I doubt my idea is any good, by any means; but I do think that something needs to be done to work around this issue, because its not fair to the devs and definitely hurts a HUGE user base in the android community. There's no way Google can torch everything without a large amount of repercussions. I'm assuming that if the legal fire that Google is bringing is as big as its starting to sound, we may start running roms with 3rd party OPEN SOURCE workarounds that actually do similar(and knowing the baking community, probably better) features. Not right away, of course, but in the future...This might be a blessing in disguise but damn its looks like its doing nothing but stress everybody out.
[G1 Android Development] miketaylor00:
What were the changes in the kernel modules and vm tweaks. Maybe it is the placebo effect but I swear my phone is running smoother on 1.2.
[G1 Android Development] josevtome:
Only asked because I'm having some problems after updating... don't have to be rude! Home is force closing after returning from any app, and wifi is not working... don't know if it have something to do with not wiping (relax dude)
[G1 Android Development] miketaylor00:
It took you more time to post your question and wait for a response than it would have to just read the 5 or so posts that were after the announcement of the new build. I'm not being rude, just show JAC some respect and don't make him answer the same question every 5 minutes.
[G1 Android Development] josevtome:
Well, if I have a problem and it comes to be a common one, maybe there's something wrong with the build, if people don't ask how could the dev know about issues? This is the first time that something like this happens after updating a build, it's not my first time... again, chill dude! :(
[G1 Android Development] jacsonmoore3:
do anyone have a problem when u plug ur phone up to ur pc usb n to mount ur sd card it dont work it happen when i update it with this Rom..can someone help cuz its a good ROM but its sucks when i have to take out my sd card to put anything on it..thz n advance
[G1 Android Development] miketaylor00:
I've mounted at least 10 times on this ROM. I just did it again on the 1.2 build to check for you. I've had no problems at all. Maybe something is going on with your SD card? Good luck.
[G1 Android Development] josevtome:
I just updated to 1.2 and USB is working fine.
[G1 Android Development] uansari1:
Wifi wasn't working for me either... tried it first without a wipe going from 1.1, and with a wipe. No change. I'm back on 1.1 now and it's working fine.
[G1 Android Development] Paging Dr B:
wifi and usb working just fine for me on v1.2 no wipe
[G1 Android Development] unthinkablehero:
Wifi and usb work fine for me as well. However, when I check the memory on my phone, I'm left with only 38 megs. Is this correct? I have wiped, redone partitions, cleared data... I'm at a lost. Any explanation and help would be greatly appreciated.

JAC, besides my problems, this is a great rom. I went back to 1.1 for now until I can figure out my issues with 1.2. Thanks for all the hard work you've been doing.
[G1 Android Development] brady1_uk:
Everything is working fine for me, I didnt flash just installed straight on top of previous update. I have a whooping 74mb space so its nothing to do with the rom, may be worth downloading Update again and giving another go from scratch, format, partition, wipe and flash..

Lovign this Rom BTW, the clock is a beautiful bit of Graphics
[G1 Android Development] JAWheat411:
It seems out of 200 megs and some stuff installed I only have 22 megs left. I noticed the same thing on Cyanogen build. Of course I am using the card that came with the phone. I need to get a bigger one at some point.
[G1 Android Development] zgmf-x322a:
its a little laggy than the other cupcake roms...just a little only
[G1 Android Development] pengages:
Searched the thread and found no talk of batteries other than the complaints about the badass battery skin..

I've had severe battery problems - went from 56% to completely DEAD after flashing the rom yesterday - 2pm - 7pm - VERY LIGHT use. Mostly idle in my pocket.

This morning, took it off the charge 2 hours ago, had the phone on my pillow as I fell back asleep - no use whatsoever, ONE widget, all tasks closed, don't even have icons on 4 of the screens yet - down to 76% in 2 hours.

Am I the only one that's faced this problem?
[G1 Android Development] pReTTyUnG1:
Do u need a certain radio? I hav the jf1.5 radio rite now...or can I can use this radio an jus flash the recovery image an then the rom?
[G1 Android Development] kingskidd268:
I like this 1.2 the best it Downloaded my paid app from my download, Bluetooth works, Led works. man I love this Rom... I am missing the Twitter app and widget from hero i work like to see in the next update...
[G1 Android Development] edwinr29:
HTC Mail Widget

Guys quick ???

Does ne1 know if the Htc Mail App works on this build.....

I like that one a 1000 times more than the stock android mail...
[G1 Android Development] unthinkablehero:
i tried it again. once going from 1.1 to 1.2 without wipe... then 1.1 to 1.2 with wipe... then with just a fresh install of 1.2. I'm still sitting at 38 megs of internal memory. What is going on?
[G1 Android Development] miketaylor00:
Do you have an ext2/3 partition? Maybe Apps2SD isn't working for you for some reason. Type in Lucid -s from the terminal to see if your links are setup for your apps. If they are, check your data/data/ directory and see how large that is. Those are the two areas where your data is going to affect the amount of free memory.

My guess is that you don't have apps2sd working for some reason.
[G1 Android Development] kingskidd268:
Sound like you dont have linux swap on you sdcard...
[G1 Android Development] miketaylor00:
The biggest problem that I know of is that contact synch and the market can't be added after the fact. I don't know about you guys but I don't know if I can live with a ROM that doesn't have those two things.
[G1 Android Development] zimphishmonger:
Same here, hows that new xRom working out? Hopefully it will be out soon before any more madness happens.....
[G1 Android Development] blueheeler:
Mike, you are so right.

Right now, it's a huge issue.

But I expect this to be resolved very quickly.

This is an opportune time for 3rd party developers of existing products to step up to the plate. Think of the possibilities if, for instance, the developers of K9 immediately declared their existing POP/IMAP email app 100% open source. Eventually, they might add Exchange support, and with the praise they will garner from such a move, we would all be glad to support them. And it would be a great way for them to publicize their other offerings too.

There are already alternative markets available. Not as full of apps, but they are there. Plenty of app devs will gladly jump ship after G's heavy-handed approach. And those that don't could probably be persuaded to offer their apps via website downloads.

Over the weekend I'm hoping to scour the market for a basic set of replacement apps to Google products and start contacting the devs to see if they might be willing to pony up their apps for this type of use. I may not get anywhere with it or I just might make a small dent. But if we can find replacements, we're just that much closer to getting the freedom we thought we had with these Android devices. It was a shock regarding the rom issues, but when it came to light that recovery and nandroid are problematic ... and themes too for God's sake, that's when it became a real fight for me. I can't code, but I can help in other ways. And I will.

We're all fairly content right now because the current roms are up-to-date and mostly bug free. That gives us time, but not very much. There will be new tweaks, discoveries, functionality, etc. There may even be problems no one ever expected to present themselves. I'm not paranoid about it, but who knows what will happen or how the carriers will react. Will the Google fiasco carry over to them?

I'm more than happy with xROM 1.5r4. But I am already going through withdrawal not flashing in several days :)
[G1 Android Development] cwilliams:
Hey everyone, I'd like to try these fixes for the notification audio issue. I'm using a port of this ROM to the MyTouch, and total newbie question here, but the terminal emulator appears to have no virtual keyboard? Can someone tell me how to do these terminal commands on a mytouch? Thanks for your time.

UPDATE: Aaaahhh got it, you just hold down the menu button and the virtual keyboard pops up.
[G1 Android Development] Paging Dr B:
JAC all i really want to know is if you're going to get out your next release or if its cancelled.
[G1 Android Development] kaotikking:
the market has a terminal emulator app with touch screen keyboard support.... "Better terminal emulator magic" is the name
[G1 Android Development] cwilliams:
Oh thank god. This method worked on Evil D's mytouch port of 1.5r4. Thank you so much shafty, this was the one imperfection of xROM.
[G1 Android Development] cwilliams:
Thanks kaotikking that is much better. Don't know why I didn't think of trying the market myself :)
[G1 Android Development] Tydiz:
I could probably pony up some time to write something...I was just about to rerwrite one of my apps on the market, but something like this may be more important. It would be really nice if it were a team of us devs that were working together to get these apps rolling.

Honestly, if any other devs that wants to throw some ideas around...We can probably hook up a public Google Docs(Woah, the irony!) and start pounding on what needs to be worked around and what we can do about research and all that jazz.

I really wish I could sit down and write something useful, like syncing or anything like that, myself but I, for one, don't have the resources(my laptop might not make the best server :S), and two, don't have much time(working 2 jobs and going to school full time). But I can, and usually do, find time to be an amazing contributer on whatever project that's in front of me. So if anyone is interested... :)

Come to think about it, I have a list of a little over 250 devs that I contacted over the summer, in a small effort that really never took ground...They are a bunch of, what I called, the more notable devs on the market and may have at least som research that this effort could use. They were all rounded up from the market, so their information is already public, so I probably wouldn't mind sharing it with anyone if you are interested
[G1 Android Development] kaotikking:
NP man we are the ANDROID COMMUNITY lets never forget that we make android what it is today :-D
[G1 Android Development] papisky226:
hey i flashed the rom and wifi is not working for me.? what do i do?
[G1 Android Development] senaia:
Tell us about your phone

Radio, spl, version you flashed

Wifi is a known issue when using this rom on mytouch. If you have a mytouch, flash the ported version in sapphire forum, or wait and see if 1.6 is compatible with mytouch
[G1 Android Development] miketaylor00:
Most likely you have a MyTouch3G. If so you need to install the port for that phone that is in the sapphire forum. If not, give us some more details
[G1 Android Development] papisky226:
i have the latest radio haykuros spl and i flashed 1.5r4 and i have a g1. and some of my widgets arent working but thats not that big of a problem but i would like them to work
[G1 Android Development] senaia:
Did you wipe before you flashed? Which rom did you come from? I'd recomend a wipe and reflash, if still having problems, format ext partition to remove unwanted junk that could be causing problems
[G1 Android Development] Navik57:
One of the things I've noticed is when you are typing in a contact (i.e. 'To:' field in composing a message), if I were to type in 'GOOGLE' it no-longer has the option to translate that into its numeric/keypad value (466453)

Is there a setting I missed somewhere? Oh, running v1.5r4 and lovin it.
[G1 Android Development] papisky226:
yea i wiped and i came from cyanogen 4.04. ok ill wipe and reflash tomorrow morning. umm when i format do i have to re partition my sd card i have 3 partitions. i have to go through that whole process again if the wipe doesnt fix it? and if i re partition and my sd card and i put all my files back into the sd card will the apps go back in it or do i have to re-install them from the app store?
[G1 Android Development] miketaylor00:
You can put some of the files back. The app and app-private folder are ok. How are you wiping your ext? Did you copy files back when you installed xROM? If you copied the whole /system/sd/ directory back in that would be your problem.
[G1 Android Development] sennister:
I have been having some issues that are strange. Here is what is on my phone

G1 PVT Board

Rooted

Radio 62.50S.20.17H_2.22.19.26I

Haykuro's SPL 1.33.2005

51dusty's script to install apps to 8GB Class 6 SDHC Card

JACxROM v1.5r4

I have to say I love running xROM. I don't think it is causing the problem but this is what is happening.

We got a new car yesterday. 2009 Jetta TDI that has the factory Bluetooth integration. I have paired my phone with the car. That went well and I can use the car to make calls. However every 2-5min the radios in the phone reboot. The phone pops up with a message that they stopped responding. When it does this the cell signal and data signal go away then come back. So I know it is rebooting the Bluetooth and Cell Radio(s). I suspect that the Radio update that I am running is controlling both BT and Cell Radios and there may be a problem there or it might be an issue with xROM talking to the Radio Update. I did install the update before xROM.

This is the first time I have used BT on my phone. Our previous vehicles did not have Bluetooth. As a test I connected my phone to the Bluetooth on my laptop. It did not reboot the radios on the phone. However I really am not using it. It is just paired. I have to dig out my old BT Headset. If I can fine it that is. I am curious if that causes the same symptoms as the car.

Has anyone else seen this issue?

Thanks
[G1 Android Development] papisky226:
so i copy the iles on my sd card into another folder repartion and then i copy the files back into my sd card and the apps will be there? even though you cant see a file with the apps in it. well im new to this so i will go on console and erase my partitions from there using rm 1 rm 2 etc. is that ok is there another way i should do it?
[G1 Android Development] papisky226:
oh and i didnt copy those files into the sd i have been on jachero rom cyanogen rom and now this one on the same partition, is that bad?
[G1 Android Development] senaia:
Some would say it can be bad, something about odex files conflicting, I don't know much about it to be honest, but I do know AOSP and hero on same ext partition is a bad idea and you will get problems with varying results. Definately wipe ext, then reinstall rom, and you should be all set :)
[G1 Android Development] blueheeler:
Can't you use switchrom.sh to safely move between roms like this?

I use it to bounce back and forth between xROM and CM, but I realize they are similar in structure so it works flawlessly. I believe it works between pretty much any of the roms though. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
[G1 Android Development] chris6551:
help

DO NOT RUN ANY OTHER APPS2SD APPLICATIONS ON THIS BUILD. YOU WILL BREAK YOUR SYSTEM. I did the 1 click rooting, I want to use this rom but what do you mean by this comment.
[G1 Android Development] dragonranpu:
The rom will Move apps to the sd card by itself. If you try to use any app that does the same thing you will break the rom and will have to wipe and reflash. I do not know if it will break the phone.
[G1 Android Development] zimphishmonger:
Random Music Bug in xRom 1.5r3

Hi All,

Anyone using 1.5r3 notice the random music playback, similar to the issue that was in Cyan's last experimental class build? I've just switched back to xROM (full wipe on phone and ext), and I have gotten a random song playing twice today. Pretty big issue when you take your phone to school and work :eek:,

EDIT: Easy Fix :), Android annoying 'issue' of setting random notification tones when it cant find the original one. Just reset my preferred ringtone and done.
[G1 Android Development] here.david:
I have a prius and the bluetooth fr/to G1 and auto works, also with Blackberry

I have the same set up you listed except using :

51dusty's script

whatever that is...:)
[G1 Android Development] sennister:
Thanks for the reply.

51dusty's script is a simplified way to configure space on your SD card for installing apps on that location rather than the internal memory. It is an optional thing. I think it makes the phone a lot nicer because it frees up space for installing more apps.

Thanks again. I suspect I may have something strange going on here. I think my next step is to try and get my wife's phone paired up with the car and see what happens and get a heaset paired up with my phone to see what happens. So far as I mentioned I have the phone paired with my laptop and all seems normal. It is pretty odd.
[G1 Android Development] kaotikking:
YES!! U are right the switch rom script cleans off"app" "app-private" "dalivk-cache" and "app_s" and zips it and moves it to the SD card. So the only thing left is whatever else u have left on the ext partition which shouldnt effect the ROM @ all.
[G1 Android Development] djkdawg:
thanks so much for this fix, it was killing me lol
[G1 Android Development] zimphishmonger:
Does this essentially do the same thing as removing the setPriority.sh from /system/bin?
[G1 Android Development] miketaylor00:
It does, but it takes a lot more steps. Yes, with deleting the file there will be an error when it tries to call a file that isn't there but it will have no effect on the user. You can choose which way you want to do it, they both should work.
[G1 Android Development] zimphishmonger:
@miketaylor00 Do you recommend sticking w/ 1.5r3 using the above fix, or should I jump to 1.5r4? I think i remember hearing about some lockscreen bug on r4
[G1 Android Development] miketaylor00:
The only difference between the two is that r3 uses BFS and r4 uses my setPriority.sh script. I would stick with r3 as long as you have done one of the work arounds to stop the setPriority.sh script from running.
[G1 Android Development] cwilliams:
I'm running the sapphire port of r4, and removing the setPriority.sh did not fix the notification issue. The terminal method fix you linked did. So they can't be doing the same thing :)
[G1 Android Development] miketaylor00:
First, you don't need to remove it on r4. That fix has nothing to do with notifications. It's probably just coincidence that you aren't having the problem anymore. And yes, they do the same thing.
[G1 Android Development] ohnoezmahfone:
Great ROM, it's fast and stable just like the tagline says. My only issue thus far is that the notifications in the theme don't have enough contrast-- the background is dark grey, and the text is black. Makes it pretty hard to read outside.

Thanks for the good work!
[G1 Android Development] miketaylor00:
The dark notifications will be fixed in the next release. We weren't sure what was going to happen with the whole Google C & D letter but the future is looking brighter now.
[G1 Android Development] timelyne:
I tried this it doesn't work.

I got this error after i entered sh /system/bin/fix_rotate.sh
[G1 Android Development] AndroidFiend:
great ROM hopefully this doesnt get a C&D letter
[G1 Android Development] eruscool:
don't jinx it !!
[G1 Android Development] miketaylor00:
If you don't have an akmd file that means that your compass isn't working. You might have a bigger problem. Wiping and reinstalling should fix it for you. The script only works if the file is corrupt. If the file never existed it can't do anything about it.
[G1 Android Development] miketaylor00:
I'm waiting to hear back from JAC, but at the worst case he could do what Cyanogen is doing.
[G1 Android Development] timelyne:
Without wiping and reinstalling

Instead of unchecking the box for Orientation I went back and checked it,now it is working.
[G1 Android Development] Chosen_on184:
Since i rooted my phone i got quite addicted to flashing at least 3 times a month and now since Judas ( google ) reared his ugly head i havent flashed for 2 weeks and im getting that itch .... so question to you guys and dont flame ..its just that im at work and this thread is kinda long

This does not have any donut code in it right ... just orginal cupcake features with a few improvements (y/n)

While ext 3/4 are nice to have its not really needed fat32/ext2 will work just as well right (y/n)

thats it .. yea i know there a little newbish but like i said im at work and the big bosses are walking around ..

thanks for the responses :)