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[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] tuxing:
u can do this with maxcys tf3d theme changer

just search xda for it
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] Goondu:
Thanks for you reply.

I know about this theme changer. But I am looking for just the cab files instead of installing this changer

Thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] chinnyman:
Orange are collecting my faulty HD tommorow. I need to flash back to the original Rom.

How do i do it?

I assume i need it from here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=379034

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=379318

Is there any easier way
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] chinnyman:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=444158
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] chinnyman:
do i just flash the rom as normal?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Read the steps at the end of the first post on this thread

You will need the stock ROM from the post you gave (ie http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=444158) and follow the steps in the thread above. You will also need to revert to a stock 1.14 SPL as the final step (also in the thread above)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] chinnyman:
LoL, i just realised i am returning my phone to Orange as my power on/off button doesnt work, no flashing for me
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bradmax57:
thats the same problem i had with my orange htc, the power button would turn the phone on but not off, so you maybe ok? does it turn on after the battery is removed? my camera also failed to start, i hadnt flashed that one but tbh, if this breaks i wouldnt care less, ive sent back a few n95's which had been flashed to stock nokia firmwares and nothing was ever said
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
If you remove battery can you turn device on using power button? If so, you can still flash a rom as you can still enter bootloader
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] purec0de:
i'm pretty sure i found a small app that puts the HD in the bootloader anyway.

assuming you can switch it on LOL...but if you can do that you can already get there!!

....its in the zip
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] -PiLoT-:
or if you pull out battery and put it back in with the datacable in itll boot

also remember orange dont check what u have on ur phone i know this as ive asked them and ive never flashed back to there rom before sending

theyre idiots
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] chinnyman:
lol thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] eastside770:
i just got off the fone with an att rep.The fortess will be released in SEPTEMBER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BUT HE WASNT QUITE SURE ABOUT THE DIAMOND. HE SAID WE MIGHT NOT GET IT
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mojohio:
I'm not saying you don't know what your talking about. Lets just hope the rep knows what he/she is talking about. Hopefully we'll have some form of confirmation on the net in the near future. A photo would be nice as well.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dannyedilber:
i don't know what to beileve at this point!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] argoldst:
Same here. All I know is that we have pictures of the phone for every other provider EXCEPT ATT. Considering how pics get released of basically every phone on every provider way before the phone is released, I don't see how even September is possible at this point.

Although I would love for the phone to come out tomorrow, i just don't see it happening soon and it seems ATT will be the last of the providers to release it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poppinpengawen:
what EXACTLY was this person's position in the AT&T hierarchy?? like people have said before me, I'm not saying that you don't know what you're talking about, but I don't wanna get my hopes up, and then come to find out that it won't be released for another 2 or 3 months.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jtoyz2:
being impatient for this phone as anyone...i called too and all she told me was she do see the fortress but does not see the release date...she said they usually dont know until the day it release...this got to be att best kept secret hahaha
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poppinpengawen:
seriously...

if that's the case, then AT&T is the BEST keeper of secrets ever. lol.

seriously tho, I really wish we had some sort of picture or SOMETHING to keep us going until the actual release. BESIDES that old mockup and the fact that it passed the FCC a while back.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jtoyz2:
i remember the fuze came out exactly 3 months after fcc approval...the only picture we haveof that was from a personal user that bought the unit for 700 so he claim...n we did not see any other pic until a week or two before it was release

so hopefully we see the touch pro 2 fortress august 24th or september 4th...i remember on one of the thread some guy actually seen a touch pro 2 with att tatted on the top but he didnt take a picturedamn al we need is a picture it can release in oct i just want a picture..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] BoostedSR20:
How many more of these Fortress release threads are we gonna have to suffer through? At this point I won't believe anything without solid proof. (pics, pics of documents)

I don't remember the release of the Tilt or Fuze being this shrouded in secrecy. I'm really starting to get worried...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] volcomnator999:
and you had to make a whole another thread for this? sigh
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jtoyz2:
topaz rom has been leaked so we know atleast that is coming out...waiting for rhodium rom to leak then we should be good
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mojohio:
Would it be too much to ask AT&T, since they've taken their time while T-mobile (AUG 12), Sprint (SEP 3), and Verizon ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFDwqvWbogw ), to make this thing worth the wait. I know it's a CDMA phone, but that Verizon phone is exactly how I wish AT&T's could look. But we all know, that is unlikely. The longer the wait, the more I feel like this thing is going to be messed up.

And, we've got every major U.S. carrier identified, besides AT&T: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Sprint-to-Launch-HTC-Touch-Pro2-on-September-3-118698.shtml . AT&T can go take that iPhone they're trying to squeeze every last purchase out of, and shove it up their ...!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jtoyz2:
im sure the ATT exterior design will be just like the europe version maybe different material but design and button front and back should be the same...only thing will change is the keyboard im sure will be different...Topaz will look exactly the same as Europe though thanks to no keyboard...we will see that sometime end of this year or early next...6.5 pre loaded on their...i wonder if ATT want to wait and pre load Touch Pro 2 with 6.5 and Manila 2.5 that be worth the wait...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ekerbuddyeker:
i jusyt played with the Tmobile version (its out on 12th), and boy is it ugly compared to the HTC version. A nasty bronze, and it has nasty silvery buttons. They also have an inferior version of touchflo, with the standard WM6 menu on start. and no 3.5mm jack. very dissappointing. Makes me think twice about getitng it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ryj01:
i went to my local att store for uverse information and i was playing around with the fuze i then went yesterday to order the uverse and the fuze was gone so i asked the sales rep what happened to the fuze and he said that they arent selling it any more because they are getting a new htc phone in a couple of weeeks i asked what was the name of the phone and he said he thought it was the warhawk but now i wonder if it may be the touch pro 2 becuse i thought the warhwk was going to be released later with 6'5
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poppinpengawen:
wow great find!! yea I doubt that it could be the Warhawk...every source I've read says the TP2 will hit AT&T before the TD2. I HOPE HOPE HOPE it's the TP2!!! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] radio_flyer:
I'm not about to start holding my breath after hearing so many different release dates, no use in getting your hopes up just to be let down. I honestly think that Att is trying to keep their beloved new "iPhone 3Gs" in the lime-light for as long as possible, they don't want any other device stealing the show away from their pride and joy. However, a Sept. release would be great, much better than the rumored Oct. release. Even if it isn't released in Sept. I'd atleast want some hard evidence as to what the Fortress will actually look like so I can decide whether or not to wait another month or just jump ship.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] petard:
FINALLY

Some news about AT&T's Touch Pro 2!

It will be called the HTC Tilt 2!

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009...p-blackberry-9700-htc-tilt-2-garmin-g60-more/

Hope its soon!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] solsearch:
and according to that it's finally official, shows up on pre launch, and seems there will be a camera and non camera version (I wonder if it has to do with the front facing camera or if the standard camera, maybe an upgrade?)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Toleraen:
AT&T has always had a standard version with the rear camera and a version with no cameras at all, dont think its anything special. Still a good find though, glad to see its finally official!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Hamburg:
They usually provide both - with and without the camera (the Tilt and the Fuze were that way). The non-camera one I guess is for companies to keep their buisiness users from playing too much...

Awesome find, Petard!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dannyedilber:
att TP2 is call fortress, or they change the name? I HOPE IS THE TP2!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mojohio:
I see where AT&T is taking advantage of Buick's bankruptcy. If you see Tiger Woods' new golf bag, you will see some heavy sponsorship from AT&T. If they want to recoup some of those invested dollars, get this Tilt 2 out ASAP! I'm sure I will be in a long line of customers making that purchase.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poppinpengawen:
the fortress was the codename. there's no way AT&T would release a phone with the "Fortress". it makes sense that they would call it the Tilt 2. lol

great find petard!! now we just need a more solidified release date...or at least a solid time frame. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] tduck:
Just an FYI to clear up the confusion with everyone - non-camera phones like this aren't made for companies to keep their uses "from playing" but rather to keep them from taking pics of sensitive information/products the company is working on.

I've worked with companies like this - either you have no camera on your phone, or you don't bring your phone into the company. Corporate espionage being what it is. ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] solsearch:
also, the original touch pro2 was the t3737

the one on the list is st3777, which is quite close, so it could be quite easily be the US AT&T variation as the product code is quite close to the original.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] BoostedSR20:
Finally some good news...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ekerbuddyeker:
the one I tested ran a much older version of Touch Flo 3D (v2.0) than the HTC devices (which run 2.1 which ive been using on a Touch HD and its much better). Dissappointing...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Hamburg:
Can we make any determinations from this product number (i.e. if its a later build than t-mobile, verizon, etc. or does it not work that way). I dont know what the other product numbers are, but if we can somehow determine that its an earlier build than we can probably (and unfortunately) rule out the possibility of a 3.5mm jack. But if it's later, who knows...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] encore2097:
The Sprint version was shown with the 3.5mm jack so that makes me hopeful for versions not yet released (i.e. ATT).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Hamburg:
Yeah but thats a CDMA phone. Its been known that Telus and Verizon versions were getting a 3.5mm jack. T-mobile doesnt have one which is not a good sign for AT&T
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] solsearch:
Well, the AT&T is the only one really left, escept for Latin America (IF it ever comes out here). So it's hard to say whether they'll just be using the same basic guts with a different exterior or whether it will truly be different. I also wonder if it will have crippled video like the Tmo version.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jtoyz2:
Good news is that the Touch Pro 2 is in pre launch already and it will not be called Fortress...it will be call HTC Tilt 2 a make sense i guess...check this out

http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/09/atandts-upcoming-handsets-include-blackberry-9700-garmin-asus-nv/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poppinpengawen:
yea..that's been posted already. In this same thread. But thanks tho :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poppinpengawen:
man they took out the dedicated number row and replaced it with a symbol row? ehh...at least it's still a 5 row KB. it doesn't look AS BAD as the mockup.

Edit: any pic of the back? I'd like to see how the back cover looks :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] tduck:
I'm just happy it doesn't look ugly like the Tmo version.

And SILVER KEYS/EDGING! The only US carrier to have them.

But yes... the back... hmmmn ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] crazy talk:
that is one dam sexy phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jtoyz2:
man this brought a smile to my face...anyways the screen looks like its running on 6.5 i hope that doesnt mean we have to wait longer because of it...but damn that thing looks so slick with the chome edging so far looks like Tmobile version is the ugliest and ATT looks super sweet
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] petard:
This is great! I'm just going to miss those 10 extra keys on the FUZE. Question mark doesn't have it's own button anymore. I don't understand why they removed the 10 keys when there is so much more space on the keyboard.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dannyedilber:
whoever took this picture knows about the 3.5mm jack... why not tell us??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ryj01:
went to engaget and the guy who took the picture said that it wont be released untill Christmas time is this is true this sucks.

p.s thanks att for f up the keyboard
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] chavonbravo:
Am I the only one that noticed WM 6.5 is on that? We should have tried getting in on that conference call to see who the guy with this phone was.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poppinpengawen:
that would suck...Im still hoping for a september/october release...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] YodaJM:
I hope the Christmas release date is not true, seeing as all the other US carriers should have it by the first week of September...

And why do all the carriers insist on messing with the design of HTC's phones? HTC's designs are elegant, the carrier redesigns are so obnoxious.

And AT&T we want a number row along the top, not a secondary 10-key layout, but I guess they will never listen to that.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poppinpengawen:
I don't realy mind the number pad layout. Its easier to use. I wanted the number row before, but I think a symbol row is just as good.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] YodaJM:
At this point I am used to it because of the Tilt, but I think I'd still prefer the top row being numbers. How often do you use numbers while typing compared to the symbols they chose for the top row. I would imagine you typically use numbers way more, with the exception of @, !, ', and ". The rest are useful if you plan on doing programming on your Tilt 2 though :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jtoyz2:
like you i have been using this layout since the tilt as well, then the fuze then the xperia...there is no problem with holding down fn then the numbers...faster when u texting a phone number to someone...either way im very happy to see this and cant wait to buy it once its avail...and i dont ATT is dumb enough to release this 2-3 months after everyone else thats just not smart business...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poppinpengawen:
I agree. at&t would be stupid to release it so late. and they'd lose many of their customers who see past the iPhone crap.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bimori:
I think guys hoping for a september/October release are not going to get it. Think about it, what is At&t's #1 phone...Iphone. It was just released in June. It would definitely be bad business for them to release another phone that could potentially compete with the Iphone and thereby reduce sales. Didnt the Fuze come out in November. A christmas release date sounds about right. I would say Thanksgiving at the earliest!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Toleraen:
Count me as one of the people hopeful for a quick release, that screenshot just made my Monday :D I just don't see this as competition to the iPhone, they're two very different phones with different users and functions. I have a hard time believing they'll delay it for that reason.

Also, for the few who commented on it how is the screen showing WM6.5? Sliding unlock message? According to Wikipedia devices are supposed to start shipping with 6.5 in September, not sure how accurate that is anymore though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fortunz:
Reduce what sales? iPhone sales? The iPhone brought in a LOT of customers, no doubt, but ATT probably doesn't make nearly as much money per iPhone contract as they do for other phones that they didn't pay out the nose for what, 5 years exclusivity? ATT's sales (service contracts) wouldn't be hurt by earlier release and their profits would probably be helped.

I wonder if they're not waiting so they can release it with 6.5 from day 1 (Assuming engadget's picture source knows what he's talking about on the release date--someone using his name in the comments claims the phone was running a modified version of XP, so unless the commenter was a ID theft crankster, it doesn't exactly make the guy look credible)?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] t-readyroc:
I'll 2nd that. Hopefully we'll get more photos & a video here soon...

Pretty psyched to see 6.5 on there; as long as it doesn't delay the launch anyway ;-)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jkason:
HTC Diamond

I do remember in one of the forums from the past, that AT&T has made it clear that they will never sell a WINMO phone without a keyboard. Personally I like the native keyboard, I find my emails, and facebook entries getting longer and longer. Hard to do on the Diamond/2 without a keyboard.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] alwayslearning:
I agree with this, the two phones will complement each other. ATT will make more money from the TP2 (per unit).

We have all heard 6.5 is coming out in Sept or Oct it makes sense to wait and release this very cool phone with 6.5. I already have 6.5 on my HD thanks to XDA and I would love to have it on my TP2.

When 6.5 comes out Microsoft will release their "app" store.

Does anyone have a price point for the phone?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] petard:
They already have a Windows Mobile phone without a keyboard, the LG Incite. They will probably phase that out and sell the Diamond 2 instead.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bimori:
I know u want the TP2 already...lol but ask any business mind;

U cant release 2 phones that could potentially compete with each other within the same time frame. I dunno what u heard, but contrary to popular beliefs, At&t made/makes tones of money from the Iphone sales!!!! At&t would milk the Iphone 3GS to the core because they'll get more money from it than the TP2.

I agree, both phones cater to different groups of people, but business is business...The Iphone requaires a data plan = $$$..the TP2 wont well unless they change that...plus thousands have jumped ship to At&t because of the Iphone. Every carrier is going to have the TP2 so i'm sure they are not in a hurry.

I hate the Iphone by the way, but its At&t's flagship phone. I just think this is going to be like last year 4-5 months after the Iphone release!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] eastside770:
i dont think tha diamond is coming out either.because they suppose to have and andriod htc fone coming out too.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poppinpengawen:
yea, their slated to start shipping with 6.5 around September, but that doesn't mean that 6.5 isn't done yet. there's a video of a microsoft rep using a TD2 with the final build of 6.5 on it. so it seems like 6.5 is done, we just need to wait till it's released on devices.

yea, the crappiest android phone so far. cmon, a QVGA screen, a PHONE keypad? it doesn't even have a qwerty keyboard. AT&T should pick up the hero too. they need to get going on the android front. it's just gonna get the job done with the fiesta. it's just a crap phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jtoyz2:
FCC already approve Hero on ATT network band so that looks very promising we should hear something about that closer to November...

and as the Diamond i believe it will release on ATT as well...there has been FCC docs on it already...and also a ATT Diamond rom has been leaked as well.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] WatermelonSlim:
You guys are crazy if you don't think the Touch Pro 2 and especially the Diamond 2 is designed to compete with the iPhone. I have the European version and so far every single person that has seen it comments on how much it looks like an iPhone. Just imagine the Diamond 2 without a keyboard.

I hope this device relases soon too, but with the small amount of info that has been released, and AT&T's history of October/November releases, and a new iPhone getting released a couple months ago, it doesn't look good.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Lyian:
Welp.. We all knew ATT would f*** up the keyboard, and they didnt fail us. Im Soooo glad i got the unlocked, unmolested version.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jtoyz2:
one thing for sure they all look very similar to one another...check out the chrome edging on the touch pro2 for ATT (only network with that by the way) makes it looks very similar to the 3g and 3gs
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] WatermelonSlim:
I have the unlocked version too, but I need the 3G the AT&T version will provide. If the unlocked version had 3G in the states, I wouldn't even consider the AT&T version.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] YodaJM:
If I could get AT&T 3G on the Euro version I would have bought it long ago.

And while yes it looks similar to the iPhone, chrome edges and what not, this phone is oriented towards professionals and having a hardware keyboard is a big difference. Now releasing the diamond close to the iPhone release I think would cut into sales. But the Pro is a different beast and I think can co-exist peacefully with the iPhone...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] eastside770:
i wanted to get the unlocked verison but since ive been hearing that it doesnt have 3g.i might just try to change the keyboard.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] g2tl:
Continuing from this, having the tp2 probably HELPS at&t a lot since many business users are frustrated with the iphone, but are sort of stuck with the carrier (or so I presume). Last thing at&t wants is their ex-iphoners going to other carriers
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DaDragonChild:
Oh my God thank you for posting this up! I've been checking on possible release date, pictures, anything from time to time and I can't believe this just came yesterday! Wo0t!

Looks like I'll have a replacement for my Tilt R.I.P. =P