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[Touch Cruise ROM Development] _-Belial-_:
I have forgotten to mention my intention bout RAM usage.

For the moment (with the "naked" 23022 ROM ... I mean by naked: only HTC apps available in the Official Polaris ROMM WWE 3.19.831.3 ):

Total: 84.71

In Use: 46.23 (54%)

Free: 38.48

With the hack (but still "naked"):

Total: ~101

In Use 46.23 (45%)

We can assume that with everything cooked it will be something like:

Total: 101

In use ~60-70 (so ~60-70%)

As you can guess easily, my goal is no to have as much memory as possible ... In fact it's the contrary. I want to have the maximum of things loaded in memroy to have the fastest and responsive ROM possible.

Like pcarvalho said, some package like porxy ressource consume a lot of memory ... but to my mind it worths it. There are also Pagepool, file cache, font cahce, ...

By the way, everybody should check the very impressive pcarvalho ROM : [22-Jul][updating] pcarvalho eXtreme ROM 3.19 WM6.5 OS 5.2.23009 WWE R0 (Beta). I didn't keep it because installing Western EzInput make the device not bootable (even in killing the SIP process before installing the cab). Maybe I didn't do it correctly. Anyway, the ROM was fast with few things integrated to let you (I guess) install whatever you feal necessary.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] alexinc:
just want to say thx for sharing the kitchen and to _-Belial-_: sounds pretty interesting, as this seems to be the way i would try to create a rom myself - with the same goal! so thx for that and keep it going!!! (maybe in your own new thread for a better overview) :)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] kalti:
Hi,

just from my side some remarks...

i have functional wifi with this rom and i have the advanced config functionallty (i think)

my tomtom is working very good (using tomtom 7)

also QuickGPS makes me happy because it is working fine.

this i really can't understand - if u get internet connection with other software u shouldget it also with IE - even if u entered an proxy or something like this, then there can be some problems.

so actually i have none of the mentioned problems with this rom, beside the one with the camera.

so lets wait for belials rom and hope it is as awesome as this one ;)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] Christoph21x:
Hi kalti - thanks for your feedback!

I also wondered - my sync through internet works - so there IS the connection [through PC connection]

I'm using TTN 6 but the rest - I can fully understand your question - and I'm asking me the same... why is it not working? ;)

Anyone here any idea? I don't think I made a major mistake...

(I have currently radio 1.65.30.09 but should have no impact at least on PC-conn')
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] Christoph21x:
Dear Belial,

I think your thoughts are basically right - and I had some of them also. Nota bene: I'm only a bloody user ;)

Can you please with your knowledge also consider that this approach might suit well for packages/user, who use various, maybe smaller or less memory intensive, applications but maybe not for those who use fewer applications but "fat" ones? (They might not fit into memory and the overall free amount of memory might lead to obstacles, because other apps are kept/loaded into mem?) (see my post above)

...Just a theory and you might pick it up or not - nevertheless, I will try your "meal" ;) Thanks in advance for cooking - Christoph
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] jerpelea:
to increase free ram to 38-40mb

delete PACKAGE_MEGA_Resource_Proxy\PreLoadRes.exe

delete PACKAGE_MEGA_Boot_Launcher folder

delete PACKAGE_MEGA_Boot_Launcher_0409 folder

stability is not affected and speed is average
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] gullum:
it will affect some apps like usbtopc popup unless you change the regs from

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\BootLauncher\Services\HTCUSBToPCPopUp]
"Module"="\\Windows\\HTCUSBToPCSrv.dll"
"Prefix"="UTP"
"Index"=dword:00000000
"Info"=dword:00000000
"Order"=dword:0000000a
"Flags"=dword:00000000
"Keep"=dword:00000001
"Context"=dword:00000000
"DisplayName"="HTCUSBToPC Service"
"Description"="USB To PC PopUp Service"

to

[[COLOR="#ff0000"]HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\HTCUSBToPCPopUp][/COLOR]
"[COLOR="Red"]dll[/COLOR]"="\\Windows\\HTCUSBToPCSrv.dll"
"Prefix"="UTP"
"Index"=dword:00000000
"Info"=dword:00000000
"Order"=dword:0000000a
"Flags"=dword:00000000
"Keep"=dword:00000001
"Context"=dword:00000000
"DisplayName"="HTCUSBToPC Service"
"Description"="USB To PC PopUp Service"

must change to make services load them insted of bootloader and change Module to dll or the apps that need Bootloader wan't work
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] Christoph21x:
Some more minor issues after a couple of weeks usage

HI All, I don't know if anyone still is following this thread, but I'm still on this ROM. It is "nearly good" for my purposes (WITH additional freed up RAM - deactivation proxy - see above)

Some things are not working and they pretend from being just satisfied - an update has to follow, I'm just waiting for the right thing to come up ;)

What's not working (with my device) in addition to already mentioned issues earlier:

Wifi (my biggest concern (WPA2-PSK / AES))

Answering Mails: The number keypad is active and no other is selectable - unable to write mails

When connecting to ActiveSync - I can select usage as "ActiveSync" or "Use as a modem". In original HTC ROMs there's an additional point: "Direct Access to Flash" (like WM5torage) - that's desperately missing!

WM5torage is not working (neither 1.8 nor 1.9)

Volume cannot be adjusted separately Phone / WM6 - only one common bar is present (original HTC ROM has two - an extension arrow button to the left upper corner)

In TomTom the volume cannot be adjusted using the left hand "slider button" (hardware button) but only using the "joystick"

Launcher cannot take more than 16 entries - more are simply not appearing

Advanced Backlight Setting "bright unless phone call" that should have a bright PINpad as soon as touched is not working - always dark (and we have a bloody BRIGHT summer at the moment) ;)

3G is not working

QuickGPS is working but has no effect (and I even don't get the localization service in the provider's service list although my provider provides it) --> lead to VERY long recognition time of position

Music dies in searching. Searches now for DAYS... :) and is never-ending --> can't select playback as it's always searching

:) thus... a bloody nice ROM! :)))

Greets to all from Switzerland - Christoph
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sreejithb:
Hi,

I am a complete newbie to smart phones and a proud owner of a TP2. I am having trouble using the GPS.

Doesn't the TP2 come with GPS chipset? Do I need to do any configuration before I can use it.

My phone came installed with Google maps and McGuider softwares. When I use McGuider, it says "waiting for a valid signal" and remains in that stage for a while. When I choose "Use GPS" in Googlemaps, it says "Seeking GPS Satellite (0)).

What should I do? Please help me.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] lombardo8:
It said that for mine when using google maps as well but yesterday I took it in the car and drove around for a bit and it latched on to 11 satellites about 5minutes into the drive. Also go to 'All Programs' and update QuickGPS

Goodluck
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] drgi_sk:
this may help with the GPS.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=542699
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sreejithb:
No Luck

I saw in other threads of this forum that GPS might take sometime to connect to the satellite the first time you use it.

So I opened my McGuider program and left it overnight for it to find a valid signal. In the morning I was terribly disappointed to see tat it was still searching for a signal.

I did try the quick GPS option.

I have not installed the hotfix that was mentioned by drgi_sk. Shall try that.

Meanwhile any other suggestions? The program I am using says it is using Com4 with 4800 BD. Is this by default?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Mesquire:
Did you leave it in your car? GPS doesn't work well indoors - best if there is a visible line of sight to the satellites.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sreejithb:
Fixed

Ok guys..I am really sorry about my ignorance.

Today, I went outside and stood under the sun for a good 5 minutes and it finally connected. Even though I put the phone near my window sill yesterday night, it didnt work.. I guess it is the "visible line of sight to the satellites" that Mesquire mentioned that was the issue.

Once again sorry for wasting your time and thanks for the support..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mrj:
Hi

I really dont think its your ignorance here that is the problem.

The GPS seems really Buggy.

Sometimes it will connect, othertimes I get the searching for satellites problem.

When using Tomtom in the car out on country roads and I stopped waiting for a signal, after 10mins I gave up, no signal, LOST :(

Every once and a while it does work and I get 5-10 satellites, so it can work...

I am used to using a BT GPS so I know about how the signal works, so thats not the problem.

I'll give that link a go hopefully it helps I dont want to carry around a BT GPS and my phone, thats half the reason I upgraded...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Apk1:
No problem with mine, obviously indoors it struggles but outside can easily get 9-10. mine has just picked up 4/5 satellites indoors on my desk about 8 ft from a window
[Touch HD General] khanmoce:
Hello,

Firstly, I have found lots of tips and information from this great forum. I have changed three phones and you guys have made my mobile life great.

I need some help in regards to Listening online radio on my Windows MOBILE.

I'm trying to listen to the following radio station:

http://sagem.vtuner.com/pls/pls9723.asx

or

mms://193.218.160.20/sunrise

Both the above links are for the same Radio Station. This is a radio station from LONDON. I have tried other radio station and they seem to work fine on my mobile. E.g BBC and NPR

For some reason, this one doesnt seem to work on my mobile and only works on PC. I have tried softwares like Resco Radio, Pocket Music and SPB Radio. All these softwares have been not much help.

I really dont know what else to do so I request the help of XDA members to settle this issue for me.

I request everyone to voice their opionons. I will appreciate all the advice I can get.

Regards

FYI: I have a BLACKSTONE with Win 6.1 which was provide by HTC. I have not used any other ROM.
[Touch HD General] ghoch:
Try our application Online RadioX: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1105691

If you can't find a radio station, please, complete new channel report form. We'll add it as soon as it possible.
[General Topics] engineer05:
Hi,

Guys, I wanna buy an at&t phone that requires a new contract, However I dont have SSN... i know i cant do that online but can i buy one from a store ( att store, fry's, bestbuy,...) and tell the store keeper that i'm gonna activate online to avoid him asking for my SSN, can i do that??

also, I read somewhere on the web that if i entered the ssn as all 9's the credit check will fail and att will propose to convert the contract account into prepaid, is that true..

thanks,

Engineer
[General Topics] atomic2mod:
they will check your credit upon purchase, not activation.

If you sign up for a 2year contract to get the discounted phone and don't have a ssn, this means you don't work in the US or have permanent residence. To give a fake one constitutes fraud, theft, etc.

Your best bet is to find yourself a phone on eBay or other sales source and see if you can get it activated without doing anything you shouldn't do.
[General Topics] MrHorus:
I don't want to pry into why you are in the US and don't have an SSN, but you generally need one to obtain any sort of credit in the US.

If you have a legitimate reason for not having an SSN (for example, I used to have a restricted K visa that did not allow work) then you can apply to the SSA for a non-work SSN.

When you receive the card it will be endorsed to say that you cannot work but it should be sufficient to register for credit.

I forget the exact details of the process, but you can get a form from their website, http://www.ssa.gov

Failing that, your only option would be to buy a handset online for cash.
[General Topics] PoisonWolf:
MrHorus,

He could be an international student. International students are not allowed to obtain SSNs from the Social Security Department unless if they have a legitimate employment offer somewhere, which will most likely be an on-campus employment.

And TC, don't bother going around the system, it's been around much longer and whatever loopholes you think you can exploit will be more than likely met with brick walls the size of Texas.

Go and get employed wherever you are and then apply for a SSN (and stop thinking you even have a chance of going around the system, cause if you even had a chance of going around it, you wouldn't have asked XDA for help on the matter).

I don't mean to be harsh, just want to make sure I get my point across.

Good day.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] charnsingh_online:
I just want to ask who all are having reboots or bootloops while running cyan or hero rom coz I think it is a universal problem
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Hamburg:
Engadget posted a link to a video tour of Windows 6.5. (The video was moved to here).

In the video (about 6 and a half minutes in), they basically say that WiMo 7 is WiMo 6.5 with multi-touch support. The reason we dont have multi-touch now is that all screens are different due to the loose hardware standards resulting in each device needing its own coding. Later with WiMo7, they intend to tighten up the standards to simplify the coding in the OS.

Is it possible that the TP2's hardware already meets those standards? In the AT&T spec leak of the Fortress and Warhawk (and yes, I know none of this can be taken as fact and the dates are obviously WAY off, but why disregard all of it?), they say the Touch Diamond 2 would require a hardware upgrade, but the Touch Pro 2 is upgradable to WiMo7.

Could it be??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] AlCapone:
yes, just test the guitar-hero game that somebody made.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poetryrocksalot:
Very informative...but I am pretty sure that Windows Mobile 7 isn't going to be Windows Mobile 6.5 with multitouch...

If it's not going to have large menus and large buttons like Android, iPhone, Symbian, or Pre, than it's for sure not Windows Mobile 7. And if they **** this up I might switch to android or pre.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poppinpengawen:
I agree. this may be the last WinMo handset I buy. unless they can pick it up and make it more finger friendly and eye-appealing.

I mean cmon, Microsoft can see that HTC and Samsung are making UI's that practically erase any evidence of WinMo, and they don't take the hint. once I get the TP2 I'm switching over to Android until Microsoft catches on.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Mr.Clark:
Maybe they figure it's better to make a crappy UI that everyone knows how to program for, then let each maker do their own overlay for it.

Let's face it, HTC are obviously much better than MS at making mobile device UIs...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fortunz:
This may be the last winmo handset I buy because I fear they'll soon leave behind some of their strengths chasing the capacitative/consumery bandwagon. Fortunately, I expect the TP2 to last a while.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poetryrocksalot:
It is a perfect OS, but the reason they can't make the buttons any bigger is because Windows Mobile is also designed for phones with small screens that are less than 2.8 inches. Because of this if they increase the standard in size, well than Windows Mobile (Big Buttons Version) would not be a logical operating system for phones with small screens.

But seriously, Microsoft needs to reassess and make a minimum 3 inch screen limit so they can create a finger friendly standard. And the stylus is still a very welcome accessory with the bigger menus and options.

If Microsoft were smart or had hired smarter people than we would have not have these stupid constraints.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sakshaug007:
Does anyone know what the required hardware specs are for a pocketpc to support WM7? And does the TP2 satisfy these specs?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poppinpengawen:
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=4332

here are 2 interesting ones :)

1. Multi touch (which basically denotes a capacitive screen)

2. Compass capability
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fortunz:
Styli are helpful for many Asian languages (winmo is courting Chinese markets as we speak), and capacitative styli are humongous. Perhaps the capacitative preference for winmo7 explains why winmo6.5 will coexist with it--so resistive screens can hang around and help capture Asian markets.

However, your link prefaces the list with "WM7 Chassis 1 Spec" (note the 3.5" minimum screen size), something that indicates there could be a "Chassis 2" etc.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sakshaug007:
As far as I know resistive touchscreens

can

support multi-touch and I hope WM7 does not require a capacitive touchscreen. Resistive is so much more functional (stylus handwriting recognition, less battery consumption, cheaper, etc.) And it saddens me that they are getting phased out due to all the iphone lovers out there.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] crazy talk:
link indicating the screen technology used in the Touch pro 2 can do multitouch?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fortunz:
stantums-mind-blowing-multitouch-interface-on-video/

As far as products actually on the market, multitouch does mean capacitative. But for the future, it doesn't have to stay that way.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poppinpengawen:
oh yea, I completely agree with you. I don't see why it isn't possible to just fuse the features of a resistive screen and a capacitive screen together. there's a video (can't remember where I found it...it was somewhere on xda-developers) that shows a resistive screen with multi-touch capability. so that alone shows that it IS possible to have a multi-touch resistive screen. (now that I think about it, it sorta makes sense why the document says "multi-touch" and not simply "capacitive" :))

and I have no doubt that there will be a chassis 2. from what I hear, the chassis 1 is being considered Microsoft's "Pink" smartphone. so there's no doubt that the upcoming devices running WM7 will have bigger screens and more hardware, etc.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fortunz:
That video is in linked in the post above yours.

The techs are different, and there will likely always be some tradeoffs. There will never be a complete melding of the two, but some of the biggest concerns can be addressed.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] crazy talk:
i knew about that.

what i was trying to say was proof the exact screen in the Tp2 can support multi touch. because that was what the person i was replying to was implying.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fortunz:
He said resistive touchscreen can support multitouch. They can. I guess we all agree with each other. Big hugs, all around.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mysterd:
But we don't have the answer yet :p

Does the Touch Pro 2 have a resistive screen that can handle multitouch or not ...

The video using resistive screen for multitouch uses special hardware chips to handle that.

TP2 does not, AFAIK.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] t-readyroc:
Here's a detailed breakdown on what exactly was learned from the video that Hamburg's referring to.

Seems to me that, technically, WM7 won't be available for the TP2, but we all know there'll be some builds cooked up here that'll work at some point in the future :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] solsearch:
Technically capable or not I don't think there will be an official upgrade available. In an interview with someone with HTC they said that the upgrade to 6.5 was being done because Microsoft had said they would provide the rights for the free upgrade. I doubt Microsoft would provide two free upgrade rights for the same phone,, and I doubt HTC would shell out the cash necessary to provide a second update either. So in the end, it'd require a cooked ROM. Good thing though is the fact that in one of the many articles around it said the processor would need to be ARMv6, which the Pro2's is.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] vakbrain:
In the video, the phone the guy's using look exactly like the Diamond2. Because TD2 specs are similar to TP2 spec, IMO we can assume TP2 will support WM7. Maybe the upgrade won't be free though :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poppinpengawen:
yes, that is the TD2, but that isn't WM7. the OS the guy was showcasing looked like the final build for WM6.5.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Hamburg:
Yep. In the caption below the video on the original site, they say its the TD2 and that its the "Final" build of "6.5". What sucks is that they say it wont be released till Christmas... then again, at the rate AT&T is moving, it wont matter much to me... :mad:

I think that's the info we need to confirm/reject the possibility of WM7 on this device.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poppinpengawen:
I don't think the TP2's screen can support multi touch. the technology that was shown in the video requires a certain chipset that I doubt the TP2 has in its hardware. it would be nice if there was a way for it to attain multi touch capability tho! *fingers crossed*
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Hamburg:
On the topic of resistive vs. capacitive touch screens, check this out.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/rim-patent-filing-reveals-hybrid-capacitive-resistive-touchscr/

I'm sure this will support multi-touch :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mysterd:
Oh yeah, this one looks nice... too bad this isn't related to WinMo devices.

Maybe some day...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] mattan:
I managed to run Igo8 on my TD2, on 480X800 resolution, but I still have 2 problems:

1. I can't get skins to work! I try to install Gurjon skin (both high and low resolution).

2. After exiting Igo8, the system sound always stays low, no matter what.

Thanks for helping.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] criszz:
igo works great on me. try add this on your sys. txt :

1. [interface]

theme="skin\GJ6.9.2p_800x480.zip" ( i suppose u have this last skin of gurjon)

2. [sound]

sound_volume="64"

dynamic_volume_type="0"

os_volume="194"

voice_volume="30"

try with and if don't work , without quote (aka '')
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] mattan:
Tried it. Didn't work.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] criszz:
u have last gurjon theme ?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] mattan:
I do.

Anyway, I decided to go back to low resolution. In high res I have difficulties to see the map in 2D view (and my eyes are ok...), and in 3D the res doesn't matter anyway.

The high res is nice when you want to see the "big picture", but to navigate in the car - I prefer the low res.

I still have problem with the sound, which changes by IGO to 40% every time I exit IGO.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Akantinuris:
Hi,

i got a little problem. Just bought a car holder for my TD2 with a integrated connector for the head set. now the TD2 recognizes the car holder as headset and does not use the TD2-speaker for direction advices,... Is there any possibility to force igo8 not use the headset but the built in speaker?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Akantinuris:
Anyone got a hint for me?