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[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
I don't use any of that renice stuff. I don't even use compcache anymore. In fact I'm done putting out builds for a while. I could put out the same build with two different names and people would swear they were different and that one worked better than the other. I've let it boot 4 times now without a data.img and I ALWAYS get the same result. A perfectly running system with no force closes and everyting working. I'm going to put put up one last bundle in squashfs with all the squashfs basefiles and maybe you'll have better luck with that. After this I'm done for a while
[Touch CDMA Android Development] los1223:
I haven't had any luck getting the new one to work. I did everything like usual, put all the files in root of storage card changed panel type in default.txt to 3 and launched haret. It get's stuck at can't mount /data. I let it sit for 15 mins like instructed but still just sits there. I can't imagine it actually taking THAT long. I even tried another default.txt with no luck. I'm able to successfully boot an older build no problem. Am I doing something wrong?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
i just downloaded your cramfs bundle and am giving it a shot using the exact files

i love your builds why man i just confused why albums and music isnt working dont let this discourage you and make you stop.

i will post back if this new data.img works with albums and music
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
I just don't understand how I have everything working and others don't. I put up a package of everything I'm using. Infact there are two now.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] natefish:
Well, I had already assumed that you are Harry Potter in real life and you just charm your Vogue into working correctly. Us muggles are just trying to catch a glimpse of what you have.

I don't know what else we could do differently. About the only thing I could ask for is a video tutorial and that might help us gain insight. How many gb is your sd card? Could it be a SD vs. SDHC thing?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] natefish:
Reformat your sd card and then try. That's the only thing that fixed it for me. you could try 20 fresh images or just do that once.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] natefish:
You need to download gscript and actually type the script in that app. Not sure if it works with this build, though.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
I'm using the squashfs system now and everything is fine. Infact I'm not even using compcache or swap. If anything a small swap file is all you need.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] KERKEDAGAIN:
Yeh man...I used to think that I had the magic Vogue cuz I never had issues; but alas, the time has come. I, too, am suffering the same fate as the rest..

I was using a previous Hero data store and everything was there (resources and all) there was just a conflict in my Messaging app since it was pre 2.0 or something..

You mentioned that you could upload a fresh data.img..please do..i think THAT should put us all on a level playing field..(my 2 pence)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
:(

that would be great, after 2fresh data imgs, a format and another fresh data img using the cramfs bundle i give up on albums and music working.:(

i might try the sqfs bundle but he said that there is no change btwn the 2 builds. so if he or someone with a fresh data whose device is reading the sdcards photos and music would post their data that would be much appriciated

has anyone besides zenulator gotten albums and music to read the sdcard
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
If I were you I'd download the squashfs bundle.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
ok then i will, should i reformat again or just replace the files?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] 2girls1cup:
im running hero 2.0 and its damn near flawless. this build will be usable for everyday once the sms not sent error gets fixed.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
I haven't reformatted my card in a month or so and I move several builds back and forth everyday so I don't think you need to. I've booted this build 5 times now without a data.img and it boots straight up everytime and music plays from my sdcard and albums displays the pictures on my sdcard. The last time I booted it up without compcache or swap enabled and it still runs fine. I'm not saying it doesn't need it but the home screen is fully functional without it. The squashfs bundle is what I'm using now. It's the same system.img just in squashfs and different basefiles. Maybe I put the wrong rootfs.img in the package.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
Ok I just did another clean boot with out compcache or swap enabled. It took +/-8mins. I'll post post the data.img from the freshboot.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] natefish:
Or you could just think of that error message as a confirmation message ;).

I'm just saying, if that's all that's holding you back...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] ibanezbass:
Not entirely true.. at my house i get very low signal so i never know when mine actually sent or its really not sent. So i stick with themed ION
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
you are the man!!! i downloaded sqfs bundle replaced all the files(probably could have just swapped out the the systems), and booted a fresh image, no errors and music and albums are reading files off of the sdcard.

btw did you kno(you probably do) that the zimage in you sqfs bundle has the old button layout. i didnt kno if it was your personal preferance or it was by accedent but you might want to label it on the code page for new users.

again thanks
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
I'm glad it worked out. I'll add the zImage with the new button map.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] plemen:
Boots fine for me... it created the data.img and it works.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] natefish:
Zen, I noticed that in the squash collection you put a renice txt file. Is that going to run on it's own somehow or do we need to change the ext to .sh and run it in gscript?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] natefish:
I don't know why some of us were having such a hard time creating data.img, but THANK YOU for uploading a fresh one. Everything is beautiful blue skies now. Geez, this build is fast! All things reading off sd card beautifully
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
With the data.img you uploaded I'm finally able to run something newer than 1.6r2a. For some reason, letting it make one or having a blank on on the card simply didn't work at all. I'm still just testing it out now that I can but looks like most features are there from what I can tell.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] los1223:
Hey Zen, the new data.img worked great. I am finally able to get this to boot. Thanks for everything.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
Everything is there as far as services, libraries, and frameworks. Some apps are missing like footprints and plurk which most people won't use anyway. This is based on haykuro's leak. The jac-modaco I put out a couple days ago was based off a partial leak of modaco's. They are pretty similar but the build numbers are different. They both were fast to me but this one just came together better as far as working with the vogue.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] natefish:
Yeah, footprints is an awesome idea, but most people probably won't do enough traveling while running Android on an sd card to justify having it.

Renice anyone? I haven't been able to use it. Doesn't seem to be able to get a superuser permission. Let me know if you are having any luck with it. Not a big deal since calls seem to be coming in okay, but it never hurts to make sure those processes are a priority. Thanks.

BTW, Happy One-month anniversary to this thread. 135 pages in 31 days. Not bad, Zen, not bad at all.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
It's weird with the slightly less new ones before I could not get them to work without a premade data.img. I reflashed to a new ROM and it was fixed. Now it's happening again so I'm sure TPC or something would work this time. ROMs are more than just the OS on them. I think any of them would work with a premade image but data.img would need to be recent since it has apps cached already. Rootfs.img would even fsck a bunch of errors in the FS at boot without data.img so it's very strange behavior indeed.

I got Android on my laptop in Virtualbox, will just need to get Guest Additions working for seamless integration and then hopefully your port of Hero on one side of my compiz cube. Then on to my hacked Wii and new cellphones. Good stuff.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] garringm:
I know atleast on one of the builds there is an option for delivery receipts and read reciepts which are seperate from the confirmation of a snet message I used thes to tell me if it was sent or not cant remeber where exactly in the settings you find them but they were there. I havent had a chance to try this new build yet since I am not near a high speed conection this weekend. Had to revert back to the 9-1 full build and remove everything but swap and backing store to run something worth having. Hopefully this newer build will be better. Seemed like all that extra stuff in that userinit would fill my compcache or even swap and cause me to reboot several times a day due to major lag and
[Touch CDMA Android Development] yoko1324:
If I want to upgrade to a new version, how do I backup/restore my applications, settings, and data from a previous build? I am using the stable android 1.5 build and would like to try an updated version, but do not want to have to reinstall everything manually. Is there a way to do this? Thanks. :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] natefish:
I use appmanager (not the one that says "Trial" in the market, the one that is totally free) and mybackup. Mybackup is a 30 day trial, but that's not a big deal since we switch builds about every 3 days around here. I like it because it backs up your data online. If you use a google account to sync contacts, though, don't have mybackup back them up because it will take forever and be a waste of time anyway.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Kiiv:
Hi, Vogue community!

I've tried your Vogue-Hero-Squashfs-Bundle on my Polaris, without your data.img of course, and I have no data connection :/

Have you got similar problem?

And why do you use squash Fs system instead of .img file? It seems to be slower on my phone :/ Same for you?

EDIT : Actually, it runs pretty fine. But I always have data connection problem.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] natefish:
I'm not sure if Zen is supporting problems like this on this thread, but have you put your carrier username in the default.txt? You should ask this in the main android thread as well.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Kiiv:
Sorry, my APN seemed to be not good... Maybe I've misstaped password or something like that... It works now :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] MrDJ921:
hmmm

All I am getting is a continuous reboot... It boots, says Hero, does the little chime, says HTC and then reboots and does it again. I am using the build from 9/4/09. Downloaded the bundle and only used those files
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
Set your resolution to 320x480.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] n1co35:
im also having the same problem and just used the same files.

i tried changin the resolution to 320x480 i'm still stuck at the boot screen.

im using sprint's vouge.

is there something im doin wrong?

the sqsh file was i renamed it to system.sqsh could that be it?

pls. help n thx.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
it takes a while for it to boot..around 8mins if your not using the data.img on vogue-hero...and the system files is supposed to be named system.sqsh

other than that i don't know what else your doing wrong. it works perfectly for a lot of people.

make sure you don't have any other android files in the root of you sdcard before you start. if you do move them to another folder and start fresh with the ones in the vogue-hero zip. i've only tested this image with the files in the zip and it works.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] n1co35:
thx i got it to work, by using the data file. i was able to boot it.

can't wait for future realeases.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] natefish:
I haven't been able to use the renice script. Doesn't seem to be able to get a superuser permission. Let me know if you are having any luck with it because I am not. I would love to make sure those processes are a priority.

I also noticed that Mssmison's latest package has renice.txt included in it. Is this getting used automatically somehow?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
Do

/bin/su

and then you'll be able execute call the renice script next.

Yes, the new basefiles (or in this case the included new rootfs.img) have the renice script built in. Calling it or not is an option set in the *user.conf files, as well as a lot of other options.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
yes, ive tried this on the latest build and the script ran but i still am having trouble recieving phone calls in time(goes to vm as soon as i see it on my device), any suggestions? thanks
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
Not really, but you have to understand this is a problem that affects just about every Hero port to all devices (vogue/kaiser, Sapphire, Dream).

There are a number of things that have been referenced to minimize this problem (with mixed results):

- renice those processes

- turn off vibration for received calls

- use ogg ringtones

- the usage of some specific applications

If you find anything that helps, feel free to contribute.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
im no coder or anything but i think if we got that experimental rootfs that uses the htc ril to work with sqfs systems, and to work with data we would be set
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
:)

It might, but I don't think it will.

The problem is not related to any of those components (ril, filesystem or data).

It's more likely to be kernel related or sdcard access related.

Maybe the recent Hero kernel sources release will give some insight on that...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
i remember when i played with it i got calls much quicker but, no data connection and it said i had sprint but i have verizon.(i dont care about that, just another reminder of who gets my $ every month lol)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] natefish:
He's right. It was way faster with the htc ril. It really would be the perfect, last-needed setup.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
the htc ril is closed source, we have no access to the code base to see what they're doing. Remember though the ril is a constant work in progress. Vilord will be back and working on it soon.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] edru:
I just reboot in circles. and in circles. and in circles. and in circles. and in circles. and in circles. and in circles.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
user error....see top of thread
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Brshk1:
I have also the same call delay problem with my Kaiser running Hero builds. The renice script helps up to some extent, giving a few more seconds to answer, but still far from perfect.

Others have reported better results than mine. My question is whether it could depend on the ROM. Enatefox has made some comments about changing ROMs.

Another thought: data connection does slow the phone, just think what happens when you first log with your google account and syncing starts. So, if the htc closed source ril has no working data, could this be the reason why the calls behave better?

Take this as a guess. I am absolutely no expert and have only a few hours experience with android, mainly thanks to the experts in these forums.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
Used latest userinit and system.img from hero-android and the latest basefiles from vogue android, and all is working fine. Is the delay in the first minutes when android is started due to that it is swaping files? Cause after 1-2 minutes it got very fast and responsive. Nice work man, and don't care too mouch about all thoose who can't read or think.... Only issue i noticed when i'm using the music player and fast switch the tracks, i hear a stuttering until i stop the music and restart the track. How can i add the htc music app to the renice.txt, maybe that helps...

Really great, thanks
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Septavius:
Fixing secure support for "root" (su) applications

@zenulator: I don't know if this is done intentionally to avoid a security hole, but in your builds the file "/system/bin/su" has wrong permissions, so applications which require root (su) does not work.

Changing to the "correct" permissions and ownership fixes the problem, but creates a security hole as "untrusted" applications can access root.

As most of your builds seem to include the "Superuser permissions" application, the best solution would be to replace "/system/bin/su" with the one that interfaces with that program. I've used one I got from msmissions earlier Hero lite build: http://drop.io/frsiawq.

For reference:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=449536 (this looks like an early version)

Making sure of correct permissions:

chown root:root /system/bin/su
chmod 4755 /system/bin/su

I have tried this myself with your latest Hero 2.0 build and it seems to work as intended :).
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cubs3205:
HTC is releasing QVGA Hero in October!

http://www.htc.com/www/product/tattoo/specification.html

That would be amazing if it could run (smoothly) on the vogue.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tstack77:
This is amazing news...never would've thought that HTC would release another QVGA device again. We gotta get ahold of this ROM.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
Thanks for your effort but this has already been disused by enatefox. He's always talking about fixing my builds with su and wifi so I leave it out because I don't use either. If you want I'll add it but I don't see any need for it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
looks like the htc click
[Touch CDMA Android Development] skola28:
It is the Click... Definitely NOT the HERO.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheKartus:
That is a known issue with SMS in any of the Hero builds. It has something to do with the custom initrid that we are using to get it to work on the Vogue afaik. They are working on fixing it, but for now you just have to deal.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] myshinynewtouch:
new build of full hero - awesome - simply awesome - does everything i want it do - perfectly fine, does multi-tasking fine, new button remap - awesome, love to be able do volume control with volume controls - speed of loading every app, closing every app: awesome..

only bug - when i close any settings, automatically closes touchflo and relaunches it... sms bug still exists, call notification bug still exists (missed calls are only seen after android is re-launched)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] atx1980:
hero

i am running zen new hero build! AWESOME! Very Fast!

d.

SMS works both ways. i get an error on sending but it still works.

I noticed that when i am in windows if i shut down as many tasks as i can with task manager. hero runs way faster!

I am thankful of all the work you guys are doing!

I can't wait to hear when you guys get rid of windows and running a flash based rom!

Keep up the good work!:)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] loserskater:
I've been using the zen-hero-090809 bundle and it's been great! Awesome work zen! I tried using just the system.img with the rootfs from another build and it was dead slow. Everytime I went to the home screen it would take a minute to load. So I switched it with the rootfs from the bundle and it's been working perfect! No more loading!

Here's what I've noticed with sms: I tried sending myself mulitple messages using chomp sms, handcent, and the default messages app. The only ones that seems to go through for me are from the default app. Chomp and handcent don't seem to even go out. Now I just wish there was some way to turn off the failed message notification.:D

EDIT: (for anybody interested) I turned off the notifications in the default app and turned them on through SMS Popup and now I don't get the failed message, but still get notified of incoming.

Still enjoying the release!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] golfnz34me:
I have a question for the folks here. I apologize if this has been answered elsewhere.

I have Verizon XV6900 version of the vogue. I have installed both Hero and Ion versions of Android, and my GPS fails to work on both. I know that Verizon has some kind of encrypted GPS, and was wondering if I should expect the GPS to ever work with Android.

Are us Verizon users out of luck with the GPS?

Thanks.

Mike
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheKartus:
In order for GPS to work in Android, you have to have GPS unlocked and working in Windows Mobile. There is a process of downgrading and upgrading your radio and flashing custom roms to get the GPS to work.

There are instructions somewhere and I can try to find the link if your interested.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] golfnz34me:
Im a little confused. I have the GPS working fine on winMo, but how does that translate to Android? I thought that Android replaced WinMo.

Or do I just need to make sure that the GPS is unlocked in WinMo when I start Android?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] s0v3r1gn:
Question... Is anyone else having trouble changing the wallpaper on the home screen? If I try to set it to any of the photographs that I have stored on my SD card it crashes the home screen after applying the image, brings me to the HTC screen, then eventually reloads the home screen with the previous wallpaper. Do I have something set up wrong?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheKartus:
If you have already changed your radio and all that to unlock the GPS in WinMo, then you should be able to use the GPS in Android. I am not sure the reason why it needs to be done in WinMo to work in Android, but that is just the way it is atm. I am sure someone like Vilord or dzo could give you a more detailed answer.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] bensmiller:
I would have to say that my only problem right now with this is that it doesnt seem to want to set alarms on the alarmclock, and the pesky sms thing I just always worry that im not getting messages, but I dont think I am missing anything. Havent really had much trouble with anything else. This new build does seem faster, I would say if you are having problems with the wallpapers maybe try the app backgrounds theres alot of awsome wallpapers, I did notice that it had some problems with the pictures and stuff when I was trying to view them from my card on the last build havent loaded them back onto this one yet though. If you guys keep up this great work the only reason I will have to get the Hero is for the capacitive screen, the teflon coating, the acceleramtor, and the wifi, to bad it dont have TV out.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
Confirming wallpaper issues. Lock screen wallpaper is working however. Overall, much better and a good compromise for features and speed. Thanks for keeping them updated.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] ibanezbass:
hopefully the sms error will get fixed soon... i never no if my messages really sent or not

edit: what kind of wallpaper issues are u refering to enatefox? my wallpapers work fine?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] natefish:
How are you setting a picture as wallpaper? I have not been able to do change the wallpaper by going to menu->wallpaper with ANY Hero build I have tried. I have always, however, been able to change it by going to albums->"choose an album"-> choose a picture -> menu -> set as -> wallpaper/lock screen.

Hope that helps.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] loserskater:
I was able to change my wallpaper with both Menu>Wallpaper and Settings>Personalize>Home Wallpaper and I used a picture from both the wallpaper gallery and Albums.