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[G1 Android Development] equid0x:
In all of the linux systems I have built over the years I have always used 1.5x as the rule... possibly more if I expected that I would upgrade RAM later on. I have always used a swap partition(keeps things nice and clean), but the ability to swap to a file has been around for years. All of the material I've read on the subject maintains that the file is just as fast as a swap partition, though I am willing to bet its lsightly slower due to FS overhead, though this out to be minimal - possibly a bigger deal on a slow embedded system like the G1..

Its all in the type of flash chip used and its interface... the interfaces are likely fairly equal(if not exactly the same). The speed of the actual media is entirely dependent on what you spend on it... in all cases for use as swap the speed is SLOW.

Sounds reasonable if the internal flash is faster than the flash on the sd card.

You might be interested in the output of the vmstat command(not sure if its available on android) and the file /proc/meminfo (similar to the free command).

You can also watch disk(flash) io in real time with the iostat command....

I did some testing on a random 1GB un-classed sd card I have here and I got 9MB/s writes and 12MB/s reads dding the entire card in Ubuntu.... I used this on the G1 with a swap partition and it lead to lots of force closes and long delays. Flash media will not be an ideal media for a swap file until read/write speeds approach 40MB/s or better and even then will still cause slow operation while swapping(just like a PC).

Based on the many factors with the speed of the platform.... the G1 either needs more actual RAM(find out whats up with the piece we can't get to), or less apps running simultaneously to maintain snappy speed.... and maybe some less heavy apps... 12 MB's of allocated memory is a LOT on a platform with only 96MB available to begin with....
[G1 Android Development] ESKIMOn00b:
IIRC someone ran benchmarks and found the internal flash mem was almost equivalent to a class 4 card (approx 4 MBps), this particular class 6 card im running right now is almost 8 MBps nearly double the speed of the internal flash memory
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] maikel0601:
it works on mine TP2

cab fils @ http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=538826

grz maikel:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Oniric:
It works, but i've some issues with Co0kieMonster's 4 Columns Start Menu/Programs Tab. :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Juggeli:
I re-installed Co0kieMonster's 4 Columns Start Menu/Programs Tab after installing this theme and everything is now working smooth and nice :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] maikel0601:
I have on problem with this tf3d

it,s a seams to big for the screen (Programs Tab) but no problem for me
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] charlie_82:
Those of you interested in this sort of interface may also like this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=542107

Apparently it's a bit slow though. I haven't tried it myself
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Jannis:
I installed this one, but would like now to deinstall it, but somehow this is not possible:(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Bxsteez:
I thought this looked cooled but i hated seeing the Touch HD name pop up on my Touch pro so i removed it. Here is the modified cab
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] EviliZe:
Thank you so much, that annoyed the heck out me as well
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] vardig:
Hi,

Just want to say THANK YOU to INVADE for his hard work on this...WELL DONE...awsome JOB !.

My issue which i have with my phone and assuming it is with branded phones is the following:

I have a Vodafone UK Branded phone and my issue is that the Clock background is white...good thing, however the numbers are in red (HTC is black)...the calender has the day higlighted in red (HTC is green)

The "alarm off" under the clock on the right hand side is a dark grey...could this be lighter ?? or even turned white ?

Call History and Calendar which are white turn black once you click on them...can this stay white ?

Text messages are black > can this turn white ?

Mail - When you select the account on the top right of the screen the background is red with black text....can this be black with white text like the default HTC colors and fonts ?

Internet page under the world- Can the text on there turn white ?

Calendar - can this be like the default HTC style ?

Music - Can the Text on this screen be all white ? cant see what track I have on

Weather - can all the text be white, again cant see the temps and the days.

Settings - Can the main text like Wallpaper ETC be white and the information below in small pront be a realy light color like...near white but sill grey.

People - Name of person is black, can that be white, and the telephone number is a light Grey ?? can see the number...

Call History - heading is in black...can that be white like all the other tabs ?

Does anyone else have the same issue as me ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Hamilli:
Will this work on my Xperia ? OS WM 6.1 .
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] pistol44:
Exactly what I was looking for! However on my Telus CDMA TP2 the little green alien never appears.. so I guess the .gif doesn't animate on the TP2. Anyone have a workaround?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] johnmclean:
Anyone try using their TP2 with a Celio RedFly yet? If so, did it work? How did the RedFly handle the touchflo interface?

thx

-j
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] godefroi:
Why would you? It's the same resolution as the TP2, and the TP2 doesn't lack a keyboard...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] jim_0068:
Yes it works, i installed it for my father who is using it in his chauffer car as a bigger screen due to some software for his job.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] trainman:
Thanks!

I was just about to ask the same question...thanks for the information!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] trainman:
Why use Redfly

Much easier to type on the Redfly keyboard

Redfly has the ability to recharge the Tilt

Larger screen makes it easier to see some applications (maps, images, etc)

Can plug in a USB thumb drive to the Redfly and access the files on the thumb drive

Can output the screen of the Tilt to a projector if needed (I'm a trainer, this is a big one)

Can use an external mouse or keyboard if necessary

Makes it a laptop replacement for those of us not lucky enough to have a laptop

At least those are MY reasons for using them in tandem. Anyone want to add to this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] sklinger:
Installed Redfly on my ATT Tilt 2 with NRG Photon installed. After installation, screen would show anything but black. Had to hard reset and restore with Sprite Backup.

Email from support:

Stephen,

The Celio Corp Engineering team is currently investigating support for the new ATT Tilt 2. Assuming that no significant issues arise, Beta support for that phone may be available in the near future. For a complete list of the currently supported phones, please visit http://www.celiocorp.com/smartphone.

We do appreciate your interest in Celio Corp and our products, and we hope that you will subscribe to our newsletters at http://www.celiocorp.com/subscribe to insure you get the latest news and product updates.

Windows mobile 6.5 in general though will be supported starting mid November, and so phones using 6.5 OS will be released as compatible periodically after being tested as compatible.

Thanks,

Jeff S
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] trainman:
Works Perfectly

Just wanted to report that with nothing more than installing the application from the Celio website, my Tilt 2 and the Redfly work well together, and the screen resolution matches exactly. That makes a HUGE difference from my old Tilt in usability. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] get_ur_tilt_on:
Waiting on celio

HMMM,......yeah i tried the wm6.1 utility from the website on my fuze which i was running arrupenthals rom and i thought i bricked my phone. i too got the solid black screen and then almost a brown stain....lol, had to hard reset fuze, however been simultaneously running my tilt and wifes tilt on redfly and it is working perfect. last week i got my tilt 2 and called tech support talked to stephen also, and he gave me the same spill...."we are beta testing 6.5 and will have it available mid november.", personally i think that SUX, HOW LONG HAS CELIO KNOWN THAT 6.5 WAS BEING RELEASED, I THINK THAT A COMPANY THAT BASES IT FLAGSHIP PRODUCT ON WINMO USABILITY SHOULD BE THE FIRST TO HAVE A WORKING DOWNLOADABLE UTILITY THE MINUTE WINMO6.5 RELEASES..................CAN I GET SUM LUV?????????????????????.....ALSO THEY HAVE SWITCHED TECH SUPPORT CENTERS, SO THE GUYS DOING ALL SUPPORT ARE NOW NEW
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] sklinger:
Celio put out an updated driver on 11/4. I can happilly report that I am posting on my redfly paired with my tilt 2. Remote desktoping is wonderful.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] hitch:
I do not see an update for 11/04, Please tell me the version number as I don't want to have to hard reset the phone because I tried it again. I see no 6.5 WM versions working yet on their site.

thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] jeremiahs:
Glad I searched and found this thread before posting the same question. I appreciate J...geek's reply about my question for a bluetooth keyboard. I don't doubt it would work, but I am glad I kept searching and found this Redfly device. Helpful thread. Wish is wasn't so expensive.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] jeremiahs:
I got a question: I am dumbfounded that there is not more information about the battery in the redfly. I finally found that it is an Ion. How many recharges can it endure? Also, when it needs replacing, how?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JKshowman:
the title basically says it all. for t-mobile?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stopjockingme@gmail.com:
idk but how do i get free money??
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Salku:
How is that even possible are you not supposed to connect to a network, doesn't a network charges you to connect to your phone? Its like saying,"How can I steal from the company so they cant find out im using their network?"
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fleebailey33:
Why would you want free edge?

There is free wifi, and you didn't event tell us your carrier,

How do you have the G1 without edge anyway?

but for real, if we don't even know your company or country!

I want free money too.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fleebailey33:
oh and from the looks of the title and the question, i guess it would seem your age correspond with your number of posts
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xsnipuhx:
Owned. Anyways @ OP, stop creating threads with questions that should be self explanatory. Just turn the WiFi on and your g2g
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Proxin:
Guys, keep in mind post count has nothing to do with intelligence. Please try to keep elitism out of the forum so people don't feel afraid to ask questions. This -is- the Q&A section after all.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IRIE4IPIER:
i used to have free edge for about a year and a half. then i moved to a different city and my coverage sucked, so i called t-mobile about the lousy signal i had, then she reset the towers and after that, it was gone. i had to call back and start paying for it:mad: i do not know how this happend but it did, and everyone was jelous. mistake on sombodys part.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vr24:
The OP is asking how to steal and pirate services from a carrier. They can expect to be ridiculed a bit.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JanetPanic:
No to quibble but he did not directly ask how to steal or pirate a connection. He asked if it was possible to get Edge for free on T-Mobile.

The answer is not legally as far as I know. There have been atempts at using cheaper internet services on the G1, such as T-Zones, but those have been systematically blocked over time.

It is definitely the intent of T-Mo US to require one of the G1 (now android) internet services for all users of the G1 on the T-Mo US network. Some have had some success with rooting the phone and skipping registration. They would be using the G1 without any internet service or MMS, relying on wifi alone. It seems like a crippled way to use the phone to me but it is what some do.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Freedomcaller:
why would you want free edge if you can ask for free 3g?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] paranoid2007:
Just wondering? I'm playing with the thought of selling my Touch HD. Getting a bit tired of Windows Mobile. Anyone else?

But I'm asking myself, if I can live with the smaller screen and lower resolution?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] trice1921:
Im thinking of doing the exact same and my main concerns are screen size and lack of radio. The radio, which i don't use that often, i can overcome by using web radio. But the screen size and resolution is making me consider it carefully.

I've only been using windows mobile for about 6 months but im getting bored. I've looked at all the apps i use and theirs alternatives available on android for all of them.

Has anyone here swapped WinMo for Android?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cbailey:
I did. I have used winmob for 9 years :S Seriously.

I moved to Android Hero on release day last week.

I sent the Android back on Monday and am back on winmob.

There are (currently) apps and 'things' that Android cannot do to the same quality as winmob. I don't for a minute think that situation will be like that forever, but, atm, Satnav is not as good on Android. Syncing is not as good on Android. I missed the hardware keyboard (not a prob for an ex-touch HD user of course ;) )
[Hero, G2 Touch General] trice1921:
I have TomTom on my touch hd but i think i've used it once so satnav software shouldn't be an issue. You mention syncing, what do you mean?

Thanks for the input.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] nicelad_uk:
HTC Sync is not the best.. well.. its crap.

I sync with Googlemail though, always have and then I have an app on my computer which syncs with Outlook and Googlemail, so don't need to plug the phone in, I have no issues!

CoPilot is a good piece of kit, IF you have bought it. The pirate versions have many many flaws in it, so I presume this is what you mean by that? Obviously TomTom has been around a bit longer so had many years to get its quirks out of its system, I remember it on Symbian and my old XDA II, it was pants then, but nice now.

Just moved from many years on WinMo to Android and I'll give it that, its different. There are some things it won't do as good as a WinMo device, but other things it will excel on. But lets face it, its different, its not WinMo, its not Apple, hence why I want it, something different.

Not everyone will want it, but I've had a Touch HD and moved to a TP2 (0.2" screen difference) then moved to this and its fine, screen size is spot on for me, no complaints at all.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cbailey:
I bought Copilot on Friday night and tested it on a purely vanilla Android config. Nothing else installed. It crashed each time I exited. It also did not have my second tested postcode in it. Thankfully the refund function on Android marketplace worked very well, otherwise that would have been another £25.99 wasted.

More serious was the crashing though. Just kept locking up when I exited the app.

I too run Outlook sync>googlemail on my PC. But, for contracts this is a convoluted process of exporting to a .csv > gmail. It's a kludge and not good. The calendar via gmail syncs well but not the contacts. Pretty basic stuff and should be resolved at first hit and capable locally.

Under Vista, HTC sync hardly works, it's pointless being there. All these issues are exactly why apple is sewing up the market. Their stuff is much more user friendly. I have never had an iphone and probably never will, but fundamental issues that affect the user experience such as the ability to sync are essential for the success of a phone. As I was used to Activesync in Winmob land and that worked seamlessly, why would anyone struggle with an equivalent that doesn't work?

Hero displays a great insight to the future of open phone OSs. It's really exciting to experience. When the flaws are resolved I will be back on board for sure :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Acelister:
My main problem is the size of the on-screen keyboard. I've been using palm-held devices to write for years now, so the keys on the Hero are just too damned small. If an Android handset came out with a display the same size as the HD, I would be very tempted. If there's an application on the Market that lets you actually edit Word-type files...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] R3PUBL1K:
I did - but I still have the WM device but am not using. I am bored of WM for now. I will continue to use android as its a fresh and exciting to try something new and a great change, which ill get even better when I start customising the device more.

Seriously! nine years?

I presume you include your Pocket PC experience with that as WM has only be out six ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] winwiz:
ive been using windows since the original SPV. I've pretty much had every device ever released from HTC. Just sold my HD and got the Hero - I dont think I will be going back to windows again - unless something spectacular happens in Windows 7!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cbailey:
Yep, PPC as well as. I am pwoppa old school :p;) (just old really!)

I always had a soft spot for the SP5. I still have one of those and it gets use when I am on a night out, ie, more portable but still carrying the details I need.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] R3PUBL1K:
Thats the way I feel winwiz, so do other people I know fortunate enough to have the G1.

I have been using a PDA since Apple's newton days and progressed to my first PocketPC in 2000 (Compaq) and on to my first WM device which was the SPV M600 (HTC Prophet) which is still in use now. The Trinity was next SPV M700 (also still in use) and then last year I got a Hong Kong version of the Diamond.

During my time with these devices the experience has nearly been the same thanks to the user interface. The Hero and android is a welcome change, although there are things I will miss with WM - I look forward to the further developments of the Android OS and the missing things with WM will soon appear in one form or another.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cbailey:
That is for sure. These are exciting times.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] MrDva:
They need a direct sync for Outlook Contacts, call me crazy but I don't trust Google with my contact data and personally I don't like anyone else sharing my contact information with them or anyone else. Once you give them that data for free it's theirs, I'm not looking for complete anonymity but sharing my contact information is just a step away from giving them my checkbook, tax information and SSN. They have a really cool service and it's "free"... too bad people aren't taking account of what they are actually paying.

Rant /off

I am looking very seriously at getting a Hero though, I've had the Star Trek for quite a few years... (got it running WM6.1 now) and while cool. I'm looking forward to messing with Andriod and seeing what happens with the development of Andriod Apps/Utils in the community.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] menov321:
i had the touch hd and tytn 2 and they are all top notch phones....for me tho winmo phones are very precise in getting whatver you want done fast and efficeintly but they lack and excitement or fun while using them. hero i feel has just about put the two together making it enjoyable but efficient. dnt think i could go back to winmo and be happy about it....... the difference in screen size for me isnt really an issue i get on fine with smaller and th ehtc hero offers 3 different keyboard layouts for those who are used to a hard keyboard. obviously personal opinion differs but mines thumbs up to android......give it a go.....you only live once!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Rotkaeqpchen:
I was using 4 HTC WM smartphones over the past years. i got bored after a month with my htc diamond so i sold it and buyed a nokia e71 (symbian). Used it till now. In a few days my HTC Hero will be delivered.

I am certain that Android and HTC fit together very good and its getting the only competitive platform beside the iphone os.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] paranoid2007:
Ok, screen size is my main apprehension. If that works out, maybe I'm going to get a hero. :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] yaelle:
I have a Touch HD and have been considering a switch to Hero. The main thing that stops me is that I rely on a couple of Java apps that run under Winmo but wont run on Hero. For the rest, I think the trade offs are probably worth it.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] roeblerrieland:
Rip HD. Sort of.

Just got my Hero(HD's going to the wife) and like any other device out there at the moment(and probably forever, sadly) it is not perfect. Having said that, I don't think I'll miss my HD that much.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ExO_PoLiTiX:
That's exactly what i've done. Sold my hd and now waiting for my hero to arrive - hopefully tomorrow. Then il report back to say If I think it was worth it.

I much prefer the look of android tho.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] kiz:
I'm in the same boat as you guys - thinking about trading my HD in for a Hero. As soon as I saw how good Android was, I had been desperately hoping someone would port Android to the HD, but that as it doesn't look like that will happen now, I think I might take the plunge for a Hero.

Of course, like all of you, my main concerns are with the screen, and also the on screen keyboard. I'm using FingeKeyboard 2.1 on WM and it's fantastic, I doubt HTCs keyboard on the Hero will come close.

That said, I'm bored of winmo, and I organise everything online through google anyway, so switching to Android seems to make sense. I also like the idea of an app store, and whilst MS is slowly working on that, I'd rather have something run by google instead of MS.

Guess I should take the plunge! :eek: :D
[Hero, G2 Touch General] roeblerrieland:
day 2

Hmm... I thought I would miss that HUGE screen on the HD but I don't really. You also don't even notice the difference in resolution. I expected web browsing to suck because of the low resolution on the Hero but, again, it doesn't. The screen, being capacitive, means I cannot use my finger nails for those niggly precision taps any more, this is probably my biggest complaint. Don't miss my HD, at all.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Rotkaeqpchen:
Just got mine yesterday and im 100% satisfied. display and performance is perfect, android and sense are really cool. really love it... ;)