yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gbjack:
Which is better, with HTC messaging or without HTC messaging?

with HTC messaging:

Message count wont work

Slow

without HTC messaging:

Sometimes SMS cannot be sent

Someimes not update on the window but the message is already sent

Message count seems to work

ai.......
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] keanu033:
does anyone feel that the speed of manila 2.5 is too slow. for example, after i flashed v9.1, my phone need 30sec ---1min to sent new message. same thing happened when i did others like change settings, etc.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gbjack:
I supposed it's a bit slow as LEO is not meant for Touch HD, maybe the hardware cannot really run it or need update drivers... don't know but I think it is still reasonable with all the new features unlock on your "old" phone
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] chainbolt:
AFIAK Manila 2.5 is not for Blackstone, and in combination with 6.5 which is anyway for higher powered devices, we are at the limit with a 520 MHz processor. Can't be helped.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] shruff:
Absolutely not, very fast and responsive for me, nothing like you mentioned.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] keanu033:
what you mean by update drivers and what is the new features unlock on "old" phone
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gohyc:
Thanks a lot iky10 for the update. It works great for me too on Miri 23053 Manila 2.5!! :) I believe it should work great too on Rev 9.1, no reason why it shouldn't.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gohyc:
You are right Clyde! Kudos to you again! :)

Miri_REV90_SP1 (found in post 1) does indeed fix the Home button for Miri Manila 2.5 Test 23053.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gohyc:
Did you try changing pagepool to 20mb or 24mb? Most people (if not all) find that it increases performance. Installing the Neo Drivers (either Beta 2 or 3) would surely help too.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miri:
Yes, indeed it's caused by the new HTC Framework. texture has done some tests and found that out, but the problem is that if we replace it with an older version Manila does not load anymore.

So we have to accept it and better have Manila loaded than Reso :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] keanu033:
hi, sorry about my disturb, what is pagepool? and how to change to 20mb or 24mb?

i think i did installed Neos 2007 Driverspack 3 already.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gohyc:
Here is the link to the pagepool app (to be run on PC) :

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4513057&postcount=3203

The benefit/trade-off for pagepool has been discussed many times, just do a search in the forum, you will find it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] NeoS:
I've noticed that battery life dropped on my HD. I normally didn't really have to recharge my HD everyday, but now it seems the battery leaks or something. :P Anyone else?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mnet:
i am not noticing any unusually high battery consumption, however battery usage is slightly increased.

btw i think miri forgot to disable htc deblogger. delete HKLM\software\HTC\DebLogger for increased performance :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
Miri: Any news on when the next TEST will be released? Or have you put it on hold waiting for newer packages?

If so I'l flash PhamQuang again cause I cant stand this NRG-rom much longer.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Carl1971:
Please give some detail how to desable Deblogger ? I have many key on the deblogger folger registry. :(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] birdcut:
Yes, since the file is compiled into dll, so maybe there is no hope to modify it :). And Resco Explorer start with tree view is not bad at all, we can split the screen with the tree view and the details :).

Anyway SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 has just released yesterday with a lot of improvement. I think it is a good alternative choice beside Manila.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] icsulescu:
SMS Message green Bubble

Does anyone have this issue that the notification green bubble does not disappeared after reading the new sms?

Regards,

Me
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] d.cortez:
yeah it's been mentioned 4,000 times, lol. sorry no harm intended!:) i think it's a bug with either the HTC packages or MS WinMo 6.5 OS. no longer an issue for me cuz i disabled the HTC Messaging app in favor of SMS Chat.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mnet:
delete the entire Deblogger key, then softreset. Some keys will be recreated after softreset but don't worry it'll still be disabled.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] icsulescu:
Thank you m8! :D

Regards,

Me
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cloak:
I new Manila build?

Miri I found a new Leo OEM package including a new Manila

It seems to be build 1.24xx ????

Perhaps you can look to it?

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UL6NQZ1V
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gohyc:
Zoombar in Opera 9.7

For those who are using Manila 2.5 Test 23053 ROM and wants the zoombar in Opera 9.7, like the one in Opera 9.5, install the attached cab and import the registry).

Like some people, I also prefer Opera 9.7 over 9.5 as rendering is faster, and best of all, it shares the same favourites as IE.

And not sure if it is Opera 9.7 or after installing the attached, now I get the website page capture showing on the shortcuts in the Internet Tab. Used to work only for IE.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miri:
I got this problem myself yesterday where the counter stayed at 1 even if I read the SMS...

What I did was to go to SMS tab, from there do reply and after that "Back"...this cleared the counter.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miri:
Thanks I have this...the Manila that is included on REV 9.1 is from Leo ROM 1.24.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] monkeymonkey:
Hey Miri, as i'm about to flash, could i just ask whether the new test version will be up today as dont wanna flash twice if i dont have to!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miri:
Yes, it will be up, based on yesterday Da_G's release 23420. I'm downloading it right now and let's hope it's not going to have problems, because people on the thread are reporting some nasty problems with it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] monkeymonkey:
A couple of points then......

1. Any idea on time???

2. What probs are people experiencing? How Nasty is Nasty?!?!?! lol

Thanks for everything you do MIRI, Best Chef Ever!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lemmik:
Hi Miri, you're going to cook a new ROM build 23060? viz. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=544445?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] d.cortez:
@miri: am i correct to assume that the new mail, calendar and twitter tabs are only available in manila 2.5 (or the most recent Leo version) and not the Manila 2.1 (with the weather on home tab) used in your v 27.1?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miri:
Yes, you are correct. They are included only in the Manila 2.5 ROM (Leo) and not in Manila 2.1 ROM (Rhodium)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] monkeymonkey:
@cortez..... Yep Manila 2.1 only has weather on homescreen, no twitter tabs etc
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miri:
Not on 23060 but on 23420 which is COM4 and it's a little newer than this.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] abats:
Thank you miri for your hard work, always a pleasure to use your ROMs.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] leslie222:
Miri, are we going to get a build 23060 today ????? sorry for troubling you but please ??????:-) and with the new Manila......
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] monkeymonkey:
so is their a fix for the button issue on 23420 and 23060?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miri:
1. Today :), not sure about time maybe in a couple of hours.

2. Lemmik posted the link to Da_G's thread, go to the last couple of posts and read the problems some chefs are experiencing...

Starting now...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] damian205:
This is manila 2,5 so can somebody give me software to put background on all tabs? I guess old programs wont work
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] shingers5:
yeah i am and also the x1! bit of a phone junkie:D

everything works fine but i have 1 problem. everything i receive a message and use HTC messaging in manila to reply the message gets sent but when i try to go back to manila my phone freezes. well the manila/touchflo freezes and i have to reset phone to get back on. it happens everytime. the manila will try to load but will do nothing. if i use other buttons menu comes up but wont go back to manila. i have done hard reset so will see how it goes. love the rom though.

the visual enhancements to htc messaging and the upgrade

the shortcuts being on today screen. one of the biggest probs with winmo is that peops complain you have to press too many buttons to get where ya need to. the new shortcut menu is a real treat. one press and voila.

like the Hero/android icons

like new push internet tabs and the whole experience.

can't wait for new release

oh i hope me having HDSPL 1.56 is not gonna cause issues with this rom
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gaiden:
this is all weird??? i played music frommy sd card fine.... any of you tried to play music from the evice itself?? copy a file from ur card and remove the card. see is it play or not...

oh i use a SD 8 gb card
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] shingers5:
the htc messaging feature fuks up on mine badly. hard rest didnt solve problem............ using radio 1.14 with the correct rilphone. maybe new radio might sort that freezing issue. its real annoying! any help would be much appreciated

edit: uuugh it happens everytime. well unless Miri or someone can help i will have to use an earlier version and see how i go
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] shingers5:
i have a transcend class 6 - 8 gig card and music playback from that is spot on. just been playing music for last 15 mins no probs at all! prev and next track all work, pause and resume playback. from standy continues to play................ new music widget is great
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pilotxxx:
Hii MIRI.

This is the best rom with 2.5 that i tested yet.

few problems/suggests:

1. no sound when i get new sms. even the new messege sound is on.

2. no file explorer like on all the roms... very hard to use it like this.

3. can't set sound for email, mms and some others. i change it to on but when i goes back it off again all the time.

4. can you make folders like TOOLS, UTILS and regroup the related programs?

5. i think 4 rows on the start menu will be much better.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miri:
Regarding 1,2,3 no problems.

4. I'm still thinking about it

5. I like to keep the things as stock as possible, maybe if the final HTC topaz/rhodium will come in 4 rows I will do it the same way :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] shingers5:
yes chef

any ideas on my freezing issue.......it really annoying and means i may have to use another rom and i dont want to
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jirmic:
Customization

Hi.

Just two questions, guys...

1. There is Program Tab and Home Tab joined together. I don't like it - is it possible to get this tabs separate as in version 2.1? If no, is it possible to get more shortcuts on Home Tab than only 9?

2. On the Home tab - is it possible to see more than one (nearest) appointment?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Nekronomekron:
Hi Miri!

First of all: this is the best user interface for the blackstone i ever used! It's working great, it's easy to use and without any issues except the known ones ;) ...

But I have one question: Is there any theme for the clock available for the Manila 2.5? Because this one is a bit "heavy" ... i would like to use the famous black glass clock ...

C YA - Nuker
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pilotxxx:
Thanks for the fast replay.

I will try hard reset again to check 1,2,3... so strange...

I will wait for the next rom to see the changes :)

Great work!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] wit709:
thanks

thank you verry much :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nicholasendean:
...am NOT going to give up....i want my MUSIQ!!!

Hello.

intersting..... I tried an old 1gb transend yesterday, it was friends so cant note the class.

I use 2 SanDisk (legitimate NOT EBAY....LOL) class 4 and class 6. Neither of them allow more than 4 seconds of playback on this rom.

I also tried playing test mp3 files which I had placed onto device memory but alas still no good.

I would love to sort this out as I really like the calendar sooooooo much. I also love the large display on the home tab.

Best of all (sorry to go on...) is the thumbnails of internet pages...THAT is to me the killer app!!!

@ Miri..:D..PLEASE!

can you think of anything I can try to get my mp3 playing up and running.....Is there something I can try that am not doing? I havent tweaked the device or anything at all. I am testing it again "as-is"...."out-the-box" with Miri wm 6.5 23016 Rev:6 and nothing else on the device. Could it be that my device being Orange is designed to wind the user up if they tweak it too much.....(joke?)

Thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] adell_:
I think it's no, no and no.

Or if anybody knows that it's possible please let me know how to do.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] JPW:
Hi Miri

Fantastic rom, everything is working brilliantly out of the box for me, really like the ability to update missing album covers in the music tab - nicholasendean - I really dont know why its not working for you - cause it is really great, love Internet tab, Home tab, not sure on my location weather tab, if only there was a fix for the sms reply bug then this rom would be a cert to stay on the HD but as it is I have decided to go back to my previouse rom for the time being.

keep turning em out - we all do really appreciate your work.....

regards

jpw
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] adell_:
Have you tried hard reset?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] asci:
About internet tab, are you able to see website preview in favourite icon or just a generic world icon?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Idr1s:
SMS and appointment times

Hi Miri, loving the look and feel of the REV6 ROM, keep up the good work :)

Is there any way of replying to SMS messages ? I've tried using the manilla tab and going through the contact route, get an error message and a ! symbol against the text. It would be a shame to flash to one of your other ROMS, I'm loving this version but replying to texts is a must.

I've also noticed that all of my calendar appointments that have been synced from exchange are 1hr behind. I've checked all the regional and time settings but all is ok there.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] JPW:
Hi,

When adding a favourite the world icon appeared in the tab but after using / refreshing with push enabled I got a small page shot of last viewed page - soz but I have flashed back to dif rom ( cause of sms ) otherwise could have done screenshot.

regards

jpw
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] waseem77:
hi miri

see tomal

Use the letters in the room tomal all sms very rapid and steady and fixed :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cloak:
Builds 23420 and 23060

Hi Miri I've read that both developingteams (com3 and com4) released new builds.

I've also read that you will build a new rom based on 23420, a com4 release.

Is it possible to build a second testrom with 23060 a com3 release?

Than it is possible to compare the two developments. I've read that the com4 team is a quite new one, perhaps that these builds are less stable.

I know the previous 230X build had memory problems, perhaps these problems are solved in the 23060 build. I hope that this will be because the last 230x build was a very fast one.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miri:
Yes, I decided to go for 23420, but let's try this first and after that we can try 23060.

These two builds are 95% similar but 23420 has the new contact app from MS.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mouki_9:
damn, haven't checked here in 1 day and have to read a couple of pages to be up to date!!! :P

Can't wait for the new things :D Keep up the good work!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Faster4:
go for 23420 miri
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miri:
Guys, 23420 TEST version is uploaded and link is on first post.

This time I just built it and didn't test because I've a lot of work to do at my daily job, and this time I want you to do the testing for me :)

I just built it as I promised it since 2 days ago, so who likes and have time to flash can go and try it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] joytime:
downling ...:) thk
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] TMReuffurth:
Miri, do have tweaked the new 23420 Test Build and added your general apps or is it just like a stock one without changes made by yourself?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] chainbolt:
I am getting wet. :eek: Downloading.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] iky10:
some1 pas this guy some napkins dont want him getting wet in this thread..otherwise ppl will have trouble dling.. lol
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miri:
Yes, all apps as in REV 9.1 are included. Only the WM build is changed.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] TMReuffurth:
Thanks for answer. Then i will try it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thebigbang:
Yeah i have the same issue... last night at about 1 o'clock i took my phone off charge (fully charged) and woke up this morning to find it was at 33% ...

I am goin to try changing some settings but are there any other recommendations out there to solve this?

Cheers
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miri:
After flashing is recomended to charge/discharge the battery 3+ times and after that the battery will be better.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] monkeymonkey:
double post
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] monkeymonkey:
TEST VERSION

TEST VERSION

TEST VERSION

Just Flashed new TEST version....

- Buttons are not visible on standard WM dialog but Manila works fine.

- Clock and Task manager are overlapping

- A a weird Triangle in my taskbar next to my 3G symbol? will try and get a screencap (when start appears in top left corner and then dissapears, the weird triangle appears)

no bugs found at moment but has only been on for ten mins!

EDIT - Twitter not working
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fantasies:
can you get twitter working?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mouki_9:
can you post some screenshots? And it would be nice to know something about memory consumption and speed/responsiveness of the rom. thanks in advance!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] monkeymonkey:
TEST VERSION

TEST VERSION

TEST VERSION

the button is raised up, and is not tappable, cannot log in from data services either.

Not a big issue for me, Rom seems fast and stable at present time :D

Shame about the WM Dialog buttons, but thats not a huge issue if you only use manila
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] TMReuffurth:
Would be nice if you could post a screenshot of the WM Dialog Buttons to see how they are. Maybe someone won´t be upgrading to this rom, once the WM Buttons don´t work.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] monkeymonkey:
TEST VERSION

TEST VERSION

TEST VERSION

Will get a screen capture util now.... not that screen shots will show ya much?!?!

Battery consumption seems good,

Memory - Total 186.91

In Use 87.03

Free 99.88

Manila obvioulsy same build, responsive to touch, quick animation.... (just needs newer build version with fixed twitter etc)

WM start menu - reponsive, quick to load apps, quick to install apps
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Missing buttons

Any ideas how to get dialog buttons? Seriously, ROM is not usable this way, i.e. SKTOOLS just prompted me "Are you sure" [to change CurLang key], and "yes" and "no" is hidden...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] leslie222:
Miri, whats the difference between the 23420 and 23600 builds????? Any chance of the 23600 with manila????
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miri:
It looks like the problems have started to arise with this new WM build, maybe this is where things are going to change more and more....newer buttons along with graphics etc...etc...

EDIT: Everyone that is testing the TEST version and find problems, please specify that you are using TEST version, otherwise people that want REV 9.1 will get confused.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] monkeymonkey:
TEST VERSION

TEST VERSION

TEST VERSION

Here ya go some screens for ya.

Screen 1 - Triangle at Top?? never seen it before!

Screen 2 - Faulty Twitter

Screen 3 - Landscape music does not retract start or taskbar

Screen 4 - Missing WM dialog buttons..

Hope this helps,

For me its not a biggy, how many times do you change curlang using SKtools....?

The prompt should only come up a few times, for day to day manila use should be a very usable rom
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] RRibeiro:
It seems they are doing some good progress in http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=544445&page=104 with this new build and the buttons problem.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miri:
Can you please try with another theme (ex: Classic Blue) and test if the buttons on dialogs will come out...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] RRibeiro:
For the buttons problem, it seems that you have to Use "gwes.exe" from another build.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] monkeymonkey:
Tried Classic Blue - still no change

The way i am playing it is that the cancel button should most of the time be on the right hand side!!!!! its like russian roulette but without the bullets! :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miri:
OK, to replace gwes.exe is a way, but it would have been better if we used the original one on 23420 ;)

gwes.exe is handling the graphics and this is what we want to see and test.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] shruff:
Ahhh I see, the link above may help :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miri:
:D yes I understand....maybe you can try installing this cab that I prepared with gwes.exe from 23053 and test it (do a soft reset after installing). Let's hope you don't need a hard reset after installing it :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] monkeymonkey:
TEST VERSION

TEST VERSION

TEST VERSION

Prompt says when try to install above CAB....

installation was unsuccesful. Program does not have sufficient system privellages
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] leslie222:
Thanks Miri....fantastic work!!!!!!!! a test version of 23600 with Manila ??????? or should I just flash this one and wait :-):-)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] agranadosg:
mirror megaupload test version please !!

Thanks miri

;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] r1kr1k:
why my HTC HD always hang??..please help me..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] noris08:
@miri

excuse me, i have a small suggestion - please do not change this thread to test rom issues

you might start a different thread or talk on pm

i hope you don't mind cause i said that:)

regards
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
Its 23060, not 23600.

Or did i miss something?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Gpsrisk:
Can someone upload 23420 to other servers ?

Many have problems with Rapidshare and MegaUpload sites.

THanks.:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] leslie222:
oops it is indeed.................. sorry....
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] chainbolt:
ROFL, you probably have never left your phone abroad? The triangle is the WM roaming symbol. :D

But why do you get this, is another question.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mouki_9:
the triangle is symbol to let you know that you're currently roaming i think..... IIRC...