yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] RobertW:
21864 is the newest build for WM 6.5. There are 2 developer branches with WM, the 21-range which will result in WM6.5 final release and the 23-range which will result in WM 7 ultimately. So, no it's not downgrading.

We are currently playing with the 23060 branch, for the 21864 proved buggy and certainly wasn't an overall improvement on Mike 2.6
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] RobertW:
Ehm, we're still deciding on what build to base the new ROM upon Caved. Also requiring screenshots and specifications while we're still in development is a bit demanding, wouldn't you agree ? Please keep in mind WE are providing YOU with a free and tested NL WM 6.5 ROM.

Thanks,

Robert
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] caved:
Hallos RobertW,

Hope things will be going like intended from now on with the 2.9 build. Good luck in making and testing it Mike / Rob

Greetz

Caved
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Aussi:
I see , next time I will do my homework better sorry :cool:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] RobertW:
No need to apologize Aussi, we don't expect you to be following all the directions and branches of the new WM 6.5 and WM 7builds. Sometimes even us get somewhat confused :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Aussi:
We will wait for further news :D does the new build still have TFL3D?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] RobertW:
Hey Aussi, could you try and avoid quoting too much text please ? Quoting the full posts clogs up the forum a bit:rolleyes:. If you feel a quote is useful, just quote only the part you refer to, or even use a link to a specific post.

In answer to your question, yes TF3D will be part of the new ROM. From now on however HTC calls TF3D, HTC Sense, or Sense. HTC have decided that Sense is going to be their interface for all WM based devices and so they are steadily developing better versions of it and also adding new functionality.

Thanks,

Robert
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] rdgut:
Actually there are more than 2.

The way I've heard is that the 21 branch of WM6.5 is infact HTC's own set of windows 6.5 builds.

Then there are the COM3 and COM4 branches.

COM3 is what is used most like 23016-23060 etc.

COM4 uses the 234-- range (right now anyway).

There are differences between them.

Maybe you should do some of your own homework before telling someone he's wrong huh? ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] RobertW:
rdgut.

His question was whether using 21864 for a new ROM wasn't downgrading since 23017 was the base for Mike 2.6. The answer I gave was correct in that it in fact is not downgrading, as far as general directions go.

And yes, I am aware of there being more 'branches' in WM builds, but my intention was to provide a simple answer. This is not a 'tech' thread in which to fully list all strategies and build teams and branches.

Furthermore I don't see in what way my answer to him contained any critisism as to him not having done his homework or that he was wrong.

Thanks,

Robert
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lansparty:
Hey RobertW,

Will the new build also contain marketplace? I tried to install the cab that is posted somewhere on this forum but the marketplace app just won't start.

Myphone works perfectly :)

Will you guys also leave out the HTC messaging app? I'm having problems texting because it loads all of my prior text messages which crashes manila. Or has HTC fixed this already with a newer build?

Thanks,
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Elim:
It is not the phone self which has a zoom function but some old camera applications from HTC. All new one didn't have this function any longer.

But be aware that the zoom function there only resize a clipping from the picture ==> the picture has a lower resolution. This can be done afterwards with every picture tool.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mikenif:
-Added the zoom back to the latest camera (also to opera 9.7)

Currently im working on a 6.5.1 release which will probably be based on 23064. (unless a new one leaks in the meanwhile)

Its almost finished. just need to fix some visual bugs caused by using the new 6.5.1 core in combination with the htc software (which is meant for the old 6.1/6.5 layout)

Release will probably be this weekend. Ill keep you guys posted
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bulleye_67:
Great news:):):):)

Love to try out your 6.5.1 manila 2.5 ROM

Can`t wait!!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] RobertW:
Bulleye_67 and Mike (:p) please use quotes only when necessary. If you reply to a post it is usually clear to which one. If necessary you may consider quoting just the part that is needed, instead of quoting entire post. It clogs up the topic, you see ?

Thanks,

Robert
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Witte_:
Flashed the 2.6 yesterday.

Very nice work, just a little remark.

My screen doesn't turn automatically when I turn the phone in Internet Explorer, Opera and TomTom Navigator7, works fine with Dutty Roms.

Is there a fix, or can you fix it in the next release.

Keep up the good work.

Greetz from Belgium
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mikenif:
Will be fixed in future releases. I will also add g-config to the tools folder so its easy to add extra apps to the g-sensor
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Witte_:
I'm waiting impatiently.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sjonniesw:
me tooooooooo
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Aussi:
How is the new rom going :D ? any testing and stuff?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daveaep:
Still no Opera in Manilla

I've tried the new rom (10-10-09) for a day now.

It feels faster than the previous one, but it still misses the Opera fix in Manilla.:(

edit: sorry, it should have been (10-09-09)

My bad!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Aussi:
Where can I download the new rom?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] marco899:
I'll guess here when it is released.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mikenif:
Opera issue will be fixed in future releases. also opera 9.7 will be the default browser from now on.

The new rom will be out in a couple of days. there are a few minor bugs i want to solve before i release it
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Aussi:
Cant wait untill its released :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dsmaster:
littl question will it also have the latest manila 2.5 version?

cuz with the current 1 the ''dusk'' theme isnt working properly
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mikenif:
yes it will. i have updated 99% of the apps to their most recent version
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Aussi:
Hopefully it will be released in upcoming weekend so I can test it in my vacation :D

And post the good results :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] caved:
Hey Mike,

How's the new Rom comming ??

I found this tweak / feature wich looks very very interresting to me in one of them new builds, released recently and u might wanne concider to put this in the NLD one ??

I do see an optionin the phone menu of 2.6: Opslaan naar Notities, is this the same one as mentioned above ?

Greetz

Caved
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Ghostface1979:
Yesterday I had a problem after deleting some SMS/e mails.

I couldn't make any mail or sms anymore because every time I tried it returned to the home screen or I got the message "tik hier om Touchflo 3d te starten "

And of course that didn't work.. I tried soft reseting a couple of time but eventualy I hard reset my HTC..

anyone else had this problem ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Aussi:
Any news folks u guys are making me curious :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dennisg60:
Very nice and stable NLD rom!

Thnx a lot for your rom!!

It runs very smooth and fast.

The only thing i've noticed is that the weather isn't displayed in the today tab.

Is it a matter of a setting or is it a bug?

Nice work!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] 399Maestro:
Try this:

On the home screen use 'menu' and 'Weer Klok instellingen'.

Uncheck the option 'Weer automatisch downloaden'.

It worked for me, but really I think it's a bug.

Best regards,

Maestro
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] rdgut:
This rom is simply using a very old version of Manila.

Wait until the rom is updated or use an english ROM (and set manila language to dutch)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] 399Maestro:
Oh, and be shure you select a city as you current position. I never got weather when it was trying to update to the current position using the gps....

Other than that, a great ROM!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] almanbrother:
How do you set the manila language to dutch??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tim HD:
first select local time of your city, THEN select "nu bijwerken" in weather tab...

works okay on my hd!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] RobertW:
Update on new Mike ROM

Just a little update about the new Mike ROM,

We finished testing Mike's 3.04 beta ROM, based on build 23064. It looks great, but contains some issues, which make it not fit for release. Tonight 3.05 will be distributed to the test team. This 3.05 ROM is based on build 23071. Depending on the test results, it may be available for download sunday evening at the earliest, Mike appears to have a life:D. We'll keep you posted.

@Caved

That is already in the ROM, just press menu button when in a call and select 'opnemen'. The conversation will be recorded in \my documents\ Notities on your device. 'Opslaan naar notities' is definitely not the same, as that opens the 'post-it' app, so you can scribble notes while having a phone conversation.

Thanks,

Robert
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Aussi:
Woohoo would be real nice if I could flash my HD in my vacation :D !

Keep up the good work fellows , you are really doing a good job
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] geldorf:
i can't wheat but i have to :cool:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] 1057324083:
Looking forward to your new ROM, thank you
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dennisg60:
This has worked for me thnx a lot!!!!!

I really like this rom, the battery has a longer life compared to others!

Looking forward to a update for this rom.

Nice work :cool:

Grtz Dennis
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Aussi:
So will it be released tonight :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mpteun:
:) hope so too
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Robbie1234:
Running the 2.6 version now and I had one question. Would it be possible to remove these two applications?

* Toms Text Messaging (SMS Instellingen in Instellingen>Systeem)

* Brian´s WM6.5 Taskbar

They don't pop up in the list with installed programs :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] rambo12345:
nope thats not possible, because they are cooked in the rom

But you can install another taskbar for wm 6.5
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Robbie1234:
Found a cab for the stock taskbar. Thanks for the advise :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Aussi:
So I guess it wasnt realised on the sunday night?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] RobertW:
@ Aussi,

Sorry man, Mike has been away fo the weekend and did not deliver a ROM this friday. So we did not have a beta ROM to test and so I am afraid the next release will be delayed.

We'll keep you posted.

Robert
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Aussi:
Thats oke ofcourse :D

Well I couldnt wait so I just flashed my rom to mike's 2.6

Cant wait for the new one cause it works great
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mikenif:
Hey Folks

the new rom is almost done.

the switch from 6.5 (23017) to the new 6.5.1 style took me a while to prepare the software/apps for the new layout.

2 problems are left.

Taskmanager wont close apps with X since the new layout. Ive cooked in showcase which runs in the background and closes apps when pressing X.

The Taskmanager quickmenu is still in the top right. its hidden behind the clock but it does work. also holding the windows/startbutton will pop up showcase/taakbeheer.

Second problem is HTC Volume which doesnt work in the new builds. Now when you adjust volume the standard MS Volume will pop up.

And thats about it.

Other then those two bugs im pretty proud of the rom. feels good & looks muuuch better then 2.6:D

Ill try to fix or find a better workaround for those 2 today. if im not able ill release the rom the way it is. Probably this evening or tomorrow
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Aussi:
Cool this really sounds promising :D !!

Good work mike
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] caved:
Hallos Mike,

The not closing upon pressing X is actally normal behaviour in those new builds. Trying to fix that is adding afeature to th OS.

There is also not supposed to be a task manager iirc.

I am personly looking forward to see how tf3d scales up to the bottom bar.

greets

Caved
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] monye:
Veel roms geprobeerd, maar vanaf dag 1 al verslaafd aan 2.6.

marketplace toevoegen zou wellicht nog een optie zijn zodat je bijv. de telegraaf kan installeren. voor de rest complimenten.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] crazydriver1982:
@mike,

i hope the release will be soon,

because i love the testrunnit for you.

greetz.

Crazydriver (Holland)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lansparty:
hey mike,

Any chance that you will release a build without htc sense? I've grown very fond of using spb mobile shell.

Thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Aussi:
So mike how is it going :D ???
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mikenif:
Rarring the rom and uploading it now :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] 399Maestro:
Standing by....
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Smobbo:
oh, i'm curious as well!

I hope it will be a smooth version! Finally some more roms begin using the newer versions, with all the buttons at the bottom (which is imho way better! :D)!

*Pressing F5 a lot... ;)*
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mikenif:
I like the new style aswell. Ive cooked a 23071 build as smooth and bugfree as possible.

Im real happy with it. Theres still a few visual bugs caused by the new layout but nothing serious. And definitely not worth sticking with the old layout :D.

Upload will be done in 5mins
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] 399Maestro:
Downloading, thanks!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sjonniesw:
can anyone tell me how the new rom goes? I am very curious.....
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] crazydriver1982:
ey mike,

thnx for the upload.

downloading and flashing is next.

congrats whit the release.

greetings from Holland.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] djdj79:
thx mike

for the great new dutch rom

just downloading :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mikenif:
i added some screenshots to the first post
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Aussi:
Flashing it at the moment :D

Will fully test it tomorrow :D

Thx mike :D !
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] w.vangorkum77:
I'll be testing it tomorrow!!!

greetings w.vangorkum
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] djdj79:
just installed the rom

2morrow testing
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Milkem:
hi mike

Love your work just downloaded your rom ;-)

will test it today

thx
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Robbie1234:
Great ROM Mike. This is really an improvement with the taskbar being at the bottom :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] weganet:
Flashing it at the moment :D

Will fully test it tonight i can't wait!!! :D

Thx mike :D !
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Milkem:
calc question

hi

I have used the rom now for 20 min.

Looks great and feels great

only thing when i using the calc i get a regular calc

and normaly when i tilt my phone i get a mathematical calc

now the tilt doesn't work?

thx
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mgvandijk:
Updating

Because i just loved your previous release, I was waiting for the next one to be ready..

So he's at 50%, can't wait to see your work.

Keep it up
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] RobertW:
Mike,

Congrats on new ROM. It looks quite fast and complete. As far as I can see, all tabs are working. For the issuelist:

in start menu \ instellingen \ systeem, auto volume control won't start. In the same screen there is an icon without text, a world globe with a small document in front of it, this also wont start.

In tab 'Instellingen', when you select 'Locaties' nothing happens.

All the above seem to 'freeze' the device, but by simply clicking on 'home' button, you return to normal operation.

Thanks for the new ROM, great work.

Robert
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] rambo12345:
new rom

hi mike,

congratulations on your new rom

After flashing, I have not seen date/time settings

I could not change the date settings in menu/instellingen/klok en alarmsignalen, but you can change the date in home page. Tap date once and change the date.

Showcase is working very well

MSVC is included which i like :)

StartMenu Selection looks really good.

i could not find group conversation (can u confirm this?)

drop down menu is missing at the home page. I think because you have installed Brians taskbar

(ps. I have installed a different cab file for wm 6.5.1 now I have that option and i am able too see the htc volume)

I will try to make a cab file this weekend with the same icons of brians taskbar with the drop down menu

I can confirm RobertW. I have the same bugs

so far i can say these things

thx

rambo12345
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] RobertW:
@rambo12345

I confirm that during first use of the ROM you are not prompted to set a date and time. So I set time/date through clock on homescreen. If I go to startmenu\Instellingen\Klok-en alarmsignalen it is possible to change date and time there. So I cannot confirm Rambo's observation regarding this. That said, this may very well be, because I set the time/date earlier. And so new users of the ROM, who have not set date/time yet may experience the same issue.

With regard to 'group conversation', where am I supposed to find that ?

Thanks,

Robert
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Spoofy:
Is this ROM only available in dutch?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tim HD:
hi Mike...

I LOVE YOUR NEW ROM!

thanx for keeping me out of bed yesterday... flashing/installing till 03.30! :eek:

runs very smooth and fast!

only little problem is that I can't seem to remove bookmarks in page "favorieten" of Opera...!?

when I press menu I can only choose "bewerken" and when I press/hold NOTHING happens...

any other way to remove??

MANY THANX and RESPECT 4 this GREAT ROM (again);)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lansparty:
Hey Mike,

My phone seems to freeze for no apparent reason... have to remove the battery to reboot.

I synced with myphone. loading in all my smses and contacts which worked okay.

I was also experiencing some graphical bugs with the phone when i disabled sense and went back to windows default. The start bar is missing completely, just some grey bar is left with notations of the softkeys.

The same thing happened when i installed spb mobile shell, although i dont blaim you for it since spb can't handle the start bar being down.

The location services menu is messed up and not functional.

I would really like to get rid of htc sense because for me it's the main source for all the freezes...

Thanks for your hard work!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] caved:
Hey Landparty,

I have not flashed Mike's new rom but i think SPB Shell CAN work with the taskbar down (i have seen it done on a touch diamond). SPB just tents to hide the bottom bar untill u start an app that needs it offcouse. But granted: for apps like SPB Mobile shell it is not an ideal situation, they may work on this before version 4.0 commes along of the SPB app.

On a brighter note: Mike is really not to blame for a few bugs or the fact that SPB can't opperate propperly on these new builds, and i know since i am using 23071 myself and trying to get it even in NLD is ALOT of work. Let alone getting all bugs out, that should be a dayjob in itself.

Great job Mike, respect!

Greetz
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Robbie1234:
Hey,

Flashed the ROM yesterday. Noticed a few things.

- When rotating Manilla in the 'Foto's en Video's' TAB the taskbar remains at the bottom (when rotated at the right) and becomes white. I don't think this i supposed to happen.

- I tried to install TomTom Navigator v7.910 build 9185. This doesn't work. I tried to install it on the device and on the sd card. In both cases it doesn't show progress and after 10 minutes I soft reset the phone. I tried a Maryone ROM (same Windows build) to see if the build of WM is the problem, but in Maryone it installs just fine.

- I installed a program called 'NoData' to block data through GPRS or HSDPA (as this can cost money and prevents programs from connecting). It installs fine but doesn't run. It gives an error when launched. I also tried this program with Maryone and in this ROM it workes fine.

I think I will downgrade for the time being because it doesn't seem to handle the things I want in my phone very well. :) I also like the round buttons at the taskbar more then the square ones.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] donkeykong:
Hi Mike this is the best rom i have tested on HD, and i tried them all!

1. it's smooth

2. smooth look, everything looks good...

3. everything is working.

only there are a few bugs, just to let u know...

i can't acces location service settings.

adding favorites may crash manila, u can use the trick by removing the line in the notes of the contactperson.

tom tom is working, but i installed it before on the sd card...so maybe u can give that a try!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] KL643:
Hey Mike, thanks again for your great work! Installed your ROM right away last night and loving it. The "looks" are great :D and it runs smooth.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dikkeknikker:
Thx for the new ROM.

Anyone tested Navigon 7 with this ROM?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] caved:
Hallos guys,

I feel that Mike makes EXELLENT NLD roms, i loved the 2.6 untill even the day of today (i have not flashed 3.0 so dunno bout that). I also think that Mike has done alot of work for us and i for one am very gratefull for this. Without inventing the wheel all over again hence Mike has this honor already, i still think that we lack a 6.5 version (with bottom bar AND able to run SBP shell in a normal way). I can't and won't ask Mike for this version adding to his workload.

Well now. What if i told u that i have made a stock 6.5 Rom NLD, 23071 that does NOT sport manilla (tf3d), has the round buttons on the bottom bar BUT lets u run SPB Shell 3.5 (WITH tilt sensor gyrator support).

It is pretty basic and has a few bugs BUT most stuff M$ puts init works.

Today i feel that i would like to share my work with those Dutch people that are fans of SBP shell. I am planning to release this rom for u guys today....

Greetz

Caved
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] almanbrother:
Very nice rom. Runs smoothly and fast.

One question. On my today screen there is not a weatheranimation. Only the text 'my location'. In weathersettings I can add the city I want, download the weatherdata but the first option stays 'my location' and p.e. Amsterdam.

Downloading weatherinformation for 'my location' failed.

So, do I have to add a city to 'my location'? And how do I do that?

Hope someone can help me.

Regards,

Almanbrother
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mikenif:
My location currently only works with wifi enabled. doesnt have to connect just has to be enabled.

You can also switch the location on homescreen by tapping the clock and selecting a location other then "my location"

Im currently testing sbp shell for the members who prefer it over manila.

Next release will fully support it