yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[General Topics] coolVariable:
This weekend was the best example why phones should have mini-usb connectors.

I had 6 friends from all over the world in town (Asia, US and Europe).

From gphones to blackberries they all had mini-usb plugs and were able to use my power adapters (I have a tytn 2).

Now if they could only also standardize a 3.5mm audio plug, we would be golden.
[General Topics] pizzaman79:
Or 2.5 mm. That would allow for sleeker designs. But only if all the big manufacturers of phones and mp3 players reach concensus.
[General Topics] bemymonkey:
Even smaller audio connectors? No thanks - I'll keep the headphones I currently have, thanks.
[General Topics] coolVariable:
Yes.

And the iphone is the best example that 3.5mm is possible in a thin and slick design.

HTC just needs to fire its designers and hire some apple designers.
[General Topics] leaskovski:
lol!!! Dont be too fast on praising apple designers! Cisco did this for their new RT Lite phones, and the R&D phones sitting on my desk in front of me are absolute ****e!
[General Topics] coolVariable:
LOL

;-)

Also look at the Palm Pre ... Apple Designers ... looks like the old xda in black. Hahaha.

Just saying that you can get a very, very nice and small design with mini-usb + 3.5mm audio plug. So I don't see any reason why the standard phone plugs for the next 5 years should be anything else.
[General Topics] typo:
I like miniUSB, but I'm fine with microUSB. It'll allow standardized plugs across all phones, even hyper-thin designs that are physically too small for miniUSB. That's a GOOD thing. And it seems like a slightly more durable connector to me, but I don't have any evidence for that.
[General Topics] coolVariable:
no device uses micro usb while thousands use mini usb.

The size difference is miniscule (http://www.intomobile.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/05/27/motorola_razr2_v8img_3995.jpg) and the durability argument really doesn't make any sense to me.

And the argument that Micro USB will replace mini USB in the future doesn't make make ANY sense since it seems much more likely that we will have USB3.0 at that point (which apparently is getting different plugs! Yay for compatability!)
[General Topics] pizzaman79:
It sure is possible (even though i personally find the iphone an ugly brick, but the design of the headphone connector is indeed ok). But even if it's possible, fitting a headphone connector, a touchscreen and an antenna on top of eachother still poses a design obstacle. I still think that 2.5 mm jacks would allow designers to make sleeker designs more easily. Even though initially i would also be frustated about having to replace my headphones and headsets and i would want everyone to make the move at once then: computer sound cards, mp3 players, you name it. Of course that's not very realistic, so practically keeping 3.5 mm as a standard is probably the best option.

The micro usb 3.0 plugs are backward compatible with micro usb 2.0, not mini usb 2.0. You can plug a micro usb 2.0 connector in one half of the micro usb 3.0 port. Also, note on your picture that the size of the black plastic parts is about equal, but the the metal plug part of micro is about half as thick as mini.
[General Topics] coolVariable:
3.5mm is the standard. the iphone is the best example that it is not that hard to fit eveyrhting in a small form factor ... heck, it's half the size of most htc phones.

Yeah. That's great ... except that NO DEVICE actually uses micro USB.

Mini USB 2.0 is the standard! From computers to phones ... the majority uses mini USB 2.0.

As for the size ... that's awesome. You really want to make a switch because the plus is a quarter of a millimeter smaller? (Not to overuse the example of the iphone but it's plug is humngous [and retarded] but they managed to fit it into a very small package ... if the other phone designers are too retarded to make a small phone with mini USB then maybe they shouldn't be in business.)
[General Topics] pizzaman79:
Giving one example that something's possible in no way refutes that it's an extra obstacle in designing phones. And the example fails for the original iphone... Many 3.5mm earphones don't fit in the iphone's recessed opening, to the point where people have to buy 3.5mm to 3.5mm adapters to use their earphones on their iphone, even though they fit in any crappy mp3 player, heck even on any cassette walkman. Talking 'bout standards... And you call that well designed?

About the size: only the HTC's with a keyboard are really thicker. At 12.0mm, my touch HD is thinner than the 12.3mm iphone 3g(s). Then again, the first generation iphone was a wee bit thinner than the HD.

Which goes to underline: panta rhei. And that goes for standards as well. 3.5mm will remain the standard for now (even though the iphone's implementation sucks), but mini usb will be replaced by micro. For two reasons: it will become the standard in phones, and it's compatible with usb 3.0, since there is no mini usb 3.0, only micro. At least i hope this thread will help getting people informed way ahead of time so they can anticipate. And cope. Good luck with that.
[General Topics] coolVariable:
The 3.5mm on the iphone didn't fit standard headphones because apple wanted to make an extra buck and sell you THEIR 3.5mm headphones which fit. They quickly changed that when people got upset and all last gen and current gen iphones have nice 3.5mm headphone connectors. (But how would you know?)

BTW - The original iphone 3.5mm connector is just one of the reasons why I HATE apple (plus the non USB connector plug)

It's just in comparison to the iphone the other phones plain svck.

As far as USB is concerned: mini USB is the standard now. And not only for phones but for 10,000+ other devices. It and normal USB are pretty much the universal standard for electronics.

Throw micro USB into the mix is just as stupid as going with a unique plug design. But I forgot how moronic designs seem to be loved by the HTC fanboys.

BTW - it's spelled panta rei.
[General Topics] pizzaman79:
Notice i said original iphone.

I have some ten mini usb devices too, let alone cables. It's a pitty there were three standards in the first place (mini, micro a, micro b), and now the popularity is going to shift. But, again: panta r

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[General Topics] pizzaman79:
Oh, and by the way apple is part of the "moronic" group who agreed on this standard, HTC is not.
[General Topics] Kainous:
Why do you guys want so many ports?

Why the 3.5mm audio port?

Wouldn't it be better if they made everything work via mini usb? That way we would have one standard port for everything..
[General Topics] pizzaman79:
HTC already did that with the extusb port. Which, by the way is a much sleeker way of adding more connections in a backward compatible way, than micro usb 3.0. But the biggest disadvantage is that people aren't able to use the head/earphones they already have, without an adapter. See this forum and this one for a further discussion on that.

But, perhaps, using the extra wires in an extusb connector for both audio and high-speed usb 3.0 would be a nice solution. This twist to a "moronic design" might even be appealing to coolVariable. But the standards have already been set, and it's propably forbidden and unpractical for htc to create it's own mini/ext usb 3.0. Or to also use the extra pins on micro usb 3.0 for audio...
[General Topics] typo:
Yeah, no. There's definitely devices out there that use microUSB, such as the newest Blackberries and (I believe) quite a few feature phones.

Unless you meant microUSB 3.0, in which case, yes, there's no phones with it yet. Neither are there phones with miniUSB 3.0.
[General Topics] pizzaman79:
You're right. Btw mini usb 3.0 doesn't exist, only normal (A/B) and micro (A/B). That's probably one of the reasons for phone manufacturers to choose micro as a standard.
[General Topics] coolVariable:
Yeah. You really have me convinced. There is apparently 2-3 phones that use micro-USB.

My bad. I was thinking about the 10,000+ different devices that use mini USB (phones, external HDDs, mp3 players, ...).

As for USB3.0. Haha, what a joke. They still cannot get it to work properly.

("It's great if it works") Probably another 2 years before you see the first (non-draft) devices ... then another 2 years until it becomes mainstream and starts replacing 'old' USB2.0/1.0.

Total mainstream adoption is 5+ years out?
[General Topics] pizzaman79:
I agree that the exeption doesn't refute the rule. If anything it shows us which manufacturers were the most visionary (or design-oriented rather than standards-oriented... or just plain lucky).

That would give the manufacturers of 10.000+ devices some time for the transition to micro usb :D
[General Topics] uccoffee:
hd2 use microUSB... :(

cant have 1 port for both audio out and charge anymore :(

is it true that only iphone still have audio out in the charging port?
[General Topics] pizzaman79:
You can read through this post for your answer as far as HTC phones are concerned.
[G1 General] duks10:
MOD EDIT

Warez not permitted
[G1 General] AdrianK:
This is a not a forum for warez, please remove the link.
[Touch Cruise 2 Accessories] malloy0:
Hi,

Wanted to know if there is a sites carrying a Iolite belt clip of holster clip for this specific phone. So far my Googling only shows Touch Cruise clips and NOT clips for a TC 2009.

A picture is worth one thousand words, so this example, at the link below is a belt clip for a LG Incite

http://www.discountcell.com/cellular/prodcat/lgincite_8

Thanks in advance,

m0
[Touch Cruise 2 Accessories] chris_gla:
Krusell case

Krusell do a case, their part number KRU-75413. Comes with belt clip

http://www.datakits.co.uk/store/kru...rbit-flex-premium-leather-case-75-p-6192.html

Fits well and the front cover is removable.

I bought as you can use the Krusell or Marware Multidapt fittings- I bought this kit which has car and bike fittings, etc :-

http://www.datakits.co.uk/store/marware-mobility-pack-with-many-holders-p-3514.html

I wouldn't recommend this seller... I've had a few issues- links for info only!
[Touch Cruise 2 Accessories] malloy0:
Thanks, I found that the BB Pearl glove / swivel case fits well.

http://www.blackberrysource.com/store/catalog.asp?item=717

Only still looking for a holster belt clip link this for the Cruise 2009

http://www.bargaincell.com/product_14602_1835.html
[G1 Apps and Games] duks10:
download

REMOVED LINK DUE TO WAREZ
[G1 Apps and Games] dixxa:
Isn't this a pai app ?

You could get banned ....
[G1 Apps and Games] Mikey:
You can not upload links or apps to paid programs in this forum.

Final and last warning :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] DaanJordaan:
Dear Android users,

I will buy a Hero soon, but I'm a bit sceptical about the digital compass.

Is it possible to calibrate it in some way? A friend of mine told me he used the "sky map" pointed his phone at the moon and it was way off, the time was set correctly and the location set by gps...

If it isn't poissible it would be a nice idea for a developer:p

Hope to hear from you guys,

Daanjordaan
[Hero, G2 Touch General] rhedgehog:
none that i have found. Mine is slightly off, but not by much...

but then, i'm not worried massivley, as it is accurate enough for my needs.

but yeah, it would be great to be able to re-calibrate it just for the sake of being deadly accurate.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] DaanJordaan:
For developers

Exeactly it's just a nice feeling to now that it's dead on.

I think its not that hard to make a calibration tool for it.

Use GPS and walk a few meters north.

The GPS app then knows which way it's pointed.

Then port that information to the digital compass and voila...

Since I'm not a developer, I hope someone who is can do something with this idea:)
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dkodr:
Am I missing something? Is there a way to automatically convert long messages (>160 characters) into MMS. I know that adding a subject gets the job done, but having an option to automatically do that would be greatly appreciated.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rhedgehog:
Android automatically does this once the text gets larger than 3 SMS long.....

to be honest, most people moan about it doing it, but just keep typing and once you get to 480 characters (roughly) you'll see the 'converting to mms' message appear on screen.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dkodr:
Thank you very much for the explanation!
[Touch CDMA General] grantemsley:
Is there a guide somewhere for how to build android for the vogue yourself, from source? I've searched, but not found anything.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mikenif:
Mikenificent 13.3 (6.5.5 ROM) - Scroll Down

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Mikenificent 13.3

ROM Info:

* Releasedate: 31-05-2010

* Windows Mobile 6.5.5 CE OS Build 23569 NLD

* Base Rom V1.59.709.0

* .NET Compact Framework 3.5

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* PIM Backup 2.8

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[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mikenif:
[ROM][NLD][WM6.5/6.5.5] Mikenificent 13.2/FlashBack 3.0 [22.03.10][23569/21903]

Mikenificent Flashback 3.0

ROM Info:

* Releasedate: 11-05-2010

* Windows Mobile 6.5 CE OS Build 21903 NLD

* Base Rom V1.59.709.0

* .NET Compact Framework 3.5

Extra Software:

* PIM Backup 2.8

* Total Commander NLD

* Google Maps

* TouchOff 0.5.0 NLD

* Android Taskbar Icons (Created by Dark Ninja)

* Cookies HomeTab + Editor (Located in Tools folder)

Password: Mikenificent

Remeber to hard reset after you complete flashing the rom

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[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Yarda:
thx for your work, now flashing your rom.

Feedback later

to avoid questions about flashing.., use your storage Card !

1. Copy BLACIMG.NBH into the root dir of your Storage Card.

2. Be sure to have at least 30% of charge.

3. Turn off your device . Fully power the device off by long press of power key.

4. Go to bootloader mode. Push and hold Vol Down + press Power button.

5. As soon as presented the message, push Power button to start flashing or Volume Down button to cancel.

6. The whole procedure will take about 3 minutes. After you finish and see the relative message, soft reset your device, you are ready.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] guanodude:
Will check it out too.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Congrats on rom. Always nice to see a new chef appear
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] PooleyUK:
Hi Mikenif,

Thanks for the ROM, will give this a go and let you know how I get on.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pilsor:
A Dutch Rom , yeaaaah. That's great news :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ravivermaindia:
Hi, good to see a new [ROM][WM6.5][NLD] Mikenificent 2.0 [06.08.09][Build 23017]. One question, what is NLD? Is it non English based ROM? Thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] NeoS:
Congrats on your Dutch Rom. I'm glad to see you used the driverpack. Any problems with that? and how are the benchmarks?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ThatGuy2303:
Thanks for this Dutch ROM. Just flashed my phone with it. See how it's gonna work out.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mikenif:
Changelog:

[B][SIZE="4"]Changelog 13.0:[/SIZE][/B]
-Updated to build 23569
-Fixed known bugs
-Updated some apps and packages
-Some XIP tweaking
-Some Skinning done
[B][SIZE="4"]Changelog 12.0:[/SIZE][/B]
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[B][SIZE="4"]Changelog 11.0:[/SIZE][/B]
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[B][SIZE="4"]Changelog 10.0:[/SIZE][/B]
-Updated OS Build to 23549
-Added modified CookiesHomeTab + Config App (Located in Tools)
-Fixed misplaced fade in menubackground
-Updated some packages (Keyboard, messagingclient and more)
-Updated 20% of the OEMdrivers to latest topaz ones (Biggest improvement)

[B][SIZE="4"]Changelog 9.0:[/SIZE][/B]
- Updated to MS Build 23544
- Updated packages to those of LEO 2.10/ Latest Topaz&Rhodium Sense 2.5 Roms
- Updated Graphic Drivers
- Fixed all known bugs
- Replaced X2 Taskmanager with ArkSwitch for better performance (Thanks Arktronic)
- Replaced Taskbar Icons (Android look created by Dark Ninja)

[B][SIZE="4"]Changelog 8.0:[/SIZE][/B]
- Updated to MS Build 23529
- Updated 99% of the Packages to those of the LEO 2.07 rom and some of the latest sense 2.5 topaz rom
- Improved Graphic Drivers
- Updated default Theme
- Fixed known bugs
- Some RegisterTuning
- Updated Sense to 2.5.20121225

[B][SIZE="4"]Changelog 7.0:[/SIZE][/B]
- Updated to MS Build 28014
- Updated LEO Packages to those of the 2.02 rom
- Removed Showcase due to crashes when checking mail/ Replaced it with X-task to maintain the close on X function
- HTC Sense animated landscape (pics/music) now works. (no more taskbars)
- Some improved drivers
- My Location now works
- Some more regtweaking
- Fixed known bugs

[B][SIZE="4"]Changelog 6.0:[/SIZE][/B]
- Updated to MS Build 28002
- Updated LEO Packages to those of the 1.48 rom
- Some tweaks & fixes

[B][SIZE="4"]Changelog 5.0:[/SIZE][/B]
- Updated to MS Build 23506
- Some tweaks & fixes

[B][SIZE="4"]Changelog 4.0:[/SIZE][/B]
- Updated LEO Packages to those of the FINAL NLD LEO (95% of the rom)
- Updated to MS Build 23085
- Some tweaks & fixes

[B][SIZE="4"]Changelog 3.0:[/SIZE][/B]
- Updated LEO Packages (90% of the rom)
- Updated to MS build 23071
- Added Opera 9.7
- Some registry tweaks

[B][SIZE="4"]Changelog 2.6:[/SIZE][/B]
- Fixed VolumeBars not showing during videoplayback
- Fixed Wm6.5 Lockscreen
- Phonecanvas fix
- Added World Card Mobile
- Fixed QuickGPS starting when usb is connected
- Added 3G Button in Comm Manager
- Some more tweaks

FlashBack Changelog:

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[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Oemie:
WOw...nice to see a full Dutch Rom. Wish you lots of success and happy cooking experience with lots of positive reactions:)

thnx
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Yarda:
first feedback:

1.first upgraded my radio to the latest: 1.14.25.24

2. tested the rom with the standaard applications, no bugs found.

3. tested the rom with Igo8, Navigon en Tomtom 7. All these programs works fine.

Rom is fast and looks stable. Will try out for a few days.., but it seems thats this rom could be a 'dutch 6.5. killer' :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miniterror:
really nice to see a dutch rom whas waiting for it gonna try it out and see what good it brings:)

whas trying to make my own but didnt work out that good:p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Oemie:
Never mind.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miniterror:
im also using latest energy rom and i dont have the problem of lag and word prediction i dont know because i dont use t9

gonna flash:D:D:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] TronC:
Hi,

I've tried you're 1.0 Rom, and I kinda like it, just some things I have to get used to..

Like when you press the 'home' button, it goes to your last manilla tab, not to the home tab.

And I prefer 4 row start menu..

What I really like, is when you change the background picture in manila, you set the wallpaper for every tab in manila :) looks nice!

- No problem so far with the 2.1 keyboard

- sometimes when i want to change the background in manila, it won't pop up the menu, but hope thats fixed now:) *confirmed, it's fixed;), nice one!*

gonna flash now! will post feedback soon :)

thanx mate, for this rom!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bruns86:
This is very nice!!! A DUTCH WM6.5 ROM!!! :D:cool::D

Downloaded the ROM allready... I will flash it tomorow!!!

Looking forward to try this rom!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miniterror:
been using it a couple of hours now and im expieriencing a litle lag when i get my phon out of stanby i have to wait 30 secs for i get smooth scrolling in the manilla and start menu

one other thing is it possible to put things in folders like tom tom in the gps map

with energyrom i could go to file explorer>windows>startmenu>programs

and from there i could cut things and paste them in different folders or delete them form the list like i also would wanna do with some applications like jetcet for example

al over all a good rom in Dutch what i like but i have to get these things managed before i will stik to this rom

and definetly going to try out te next releases;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] misterger47:
beste mike ik heb je rom erop gezet ziet er gelikt uit

handeling gedaan zoals yarda hem beschreef

ook nog een hard reset gedaan

ivm met (nu komt het ¿¿¿)

als ik ga bellen valt me scherm op donker

moet dan ff de powerknop in drukken weer voor beeld

heb dit nog niet eerder gezien met de vele roms de ik heb gebruikt

op de hd

handeling voor de 2de keer gedaan nu met memorykaartje eruit

blijft weer ff donker met bellen

1.14.25.24

olinex1.56

enig idee ???

en sorry beste mensen hierzo en`` INGLIES``

is verry kl##te
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] djalexnl:
Thank you!!!!!!!

Hi Mikenif,

Thank you for this great Dutch Rom.

Translation / correction of the manila is an excelent job!

Rom is stable and working like a charm!!

You fixed alot of bugs which are in the R2 of Dutty, which i appreciate!

The 3D driver is also good choice for this ROM.

Also selecting links in IE work!!!

All ellements in manila work fine! (except the known footprints)

Tip. Volume in mediaplayer not displaying correctly due to Brians WM6.5 Taskbar,

Small workaround for people is install Miri_Topaz_VolumeControl.cab and install Brians WM6.5 Taskbar over it again. SMS icon also not correct, due to the Taskbar, soon to be fixed in V6

The Settings in Stock tab says IDS_SETTINGS_TITLE, minor bug, also present in Dutty rom.

If you like it or not you created the best rom out there at the moment with least bugs!!

Great cooking, and Greetings

Alex
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] weganet:
I get no weather icons on manlia today

can someone help :confused::confused:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] djalexnl:
Disable auto update on weather tab. Known isue with manila 2.5
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Demazelen:
Hugh problem......

Hi Mike,

great work you did. Looks very cool.

Only i have a HUGHE PROBLEM.

After i installed Mikenificent 2.5 it started:

After a short while my micro-Sd card is gone on my PDA.

I just cannot read it. Not even with a card reader then. it says card error.

When i had Mikenificent V2.0 i didn't have that problem.

After a soft reset the card is back visible on the PDA...but after a short while it is gone again, unreadable!

What can cause this problem and how can i get rid of it?

I allready did another Mikenificent V2.5 ROM flash but still the same problem.

Maybe i should flash it back to V2.0 and see if the problem occurs......but i like the looks of V2.5. I hope we can repair this.

YES:

- i have olinex 1.56 installed

- i have radio 1.14.25.24 installed

- i did a hard reset after ROM flashing.

NOW WHAT.....NEED HELP PLZZ...CAN USE ALL THE HELP EVERONE HAS......TY IN ADVANCE.....

Grz

Demazelen
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] weganet:
thanks man is now working;)