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[Touch HD General] David Balfour:
Your right and what is annoying me more than anything else on the Planet is the whole Copy and Paste. Its driving me mad to the point of going in to an O2 uk store beating them with a large stick.

HEY APPLE COPY AND PASTE IS NOT NEW, KEEP UP WITH THE TIMES YOU FASCIST DICTATORSHIP.

Haaaaa thats better. Oh and i have decided to call apple a fascist state as they control what you can and cannot do with there stuff i mean they have a kill switch for apps on there phone, Its worse than being in china. If this was MS someone would have them in court in 3 seconds. Now i'm not the greatest fan of MS but they have had it hard of late, they are being forced to open up the OS for browsers and source code but are apple noooo, they can sue companies for violation of the EULA and get away with it.

Anyway i dont want to go on too long (cos i will and everyone will then hate me :D) but i dont hate apple i just dislike their methods thats all.
[Touch HD General] Ikkari:
Thanks for the backup!

We should make it sticky and change it to an "Apple hate Thread" !!

Just a joke :D

Hey this is my 100th post!!! :cool:
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
Already a number of threads on the iPhone. Would this not be better placed in one of those? If this becomes another 'vs' thread I will be forced to close thread.
[Touch HD General] Ikkari:
This should not be a Apple 'vs' Blackstone Thread! I only posted my experience with the iPhone and why i switched over to Blackstone!

The iPhone is a solid phone, but maybe it's not the best choice for advanced user. But it should not be ignored that it sold millions, so for some people like my girlfriend it's the better choice.

If you thought about switching, from iPhone to Blackstone or contrariwise, feel free to ask some questions! I will try my best to be objective, and help you to make the right decision!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] cnflemon:
Hi! Like the title says, I need help with the clock in my status bar. I've had the clock shown for about 2 weeks now and all of a sudden, the clock went from digital to analog. I have the fuze with the EnergyRom 2.0. Any suggestions on how I could switch my clock back to digital.:confused:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fone_fanatic:
tap and hold on the clock.. magic ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] cnflemon:
I did that and my notifications pop up... no option to change the way my clock is displayed or anything...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fone_fanatic:
Oops, my bad, didn't even think of that.

Navigate to the following key with your preferred registry editor

[HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Shell] and set the DWORD Value of AnalogClock to 0
[G1 Android Development] NeoBlade:
While I haven't been on XDA as long as some other members, I have gone through the mammoth threads that are Dude's and Cyanogen's and its just flooded with spam or often un-useful information most of the time.

This is a development thread after all and for those running either experimental or unstable builds are beta-testing for everyone else. Now there's no harm in having a bit of chit-chat here and there to lighten things up but some issues seem to get lost amongst the ten's of posts just saying "Flashing now/issues after flashing a theme/etc".

They are experimental/unstable for a reason!

I was wondering though, if it would be beneficial to devs to have some sort of standardised form for bugs and issues. Yes I know we could probably use a wiki or support tickets offered on other sites, but generally many things get posted here on XDA first.

I was thinking of a simple list that users could copy and paste to make things easier to see at a glance and to improve on search hits. Something like this:

ROM Build:

Theme:

ROM Issue:

Issue Keywords:

Reproducible:

Wiped before install:

Re-installed/reflashed:

Logcat:

Searched for answer:

An example of a report as below...

ROM Build: Cyanogen 3.9.6

Theme: Stock

ROM Issue: Cannot run MyTracks (be specific as possible)

Issue Keywords: MyTracks ForceClose

Reproducible: Yes (put in steps)

Wiped before install: No

Re-installed/reflashed: Yes, re-installed MyTracks

Logcat: Attached/No

Searched for answer: Yes

It can be added to though so I'll leave it to you guys to offer up suggestions.

The "Issue Keywords" part should flag up easier during searches, so if you run a search for "Issue Keywords Mytracks Forceclose", technically speaking it should link to this thread.

What do you guys think? Its a longshot I know for most members to copy and paste before they reply but if it becomes a habit, maybe it will become easier for devs to track issues for themselves to prioritise or offer solutions.
[G1 Android Development] osho741:
FLASHING NOW

Kidding, I think a standardized form would be useful and I think any issue somone reports must have a logcat or it should be thrown out with the exception of phones that won't boot at all and a logcat can't be created. I think posts like "this don't work' are largely useless to developers.
[G1 Android Development] NeoBlade:
lol I was reading through the Hero dev threads before and all I saw was one liners with FLASHING NOW/CAN'T WAIT/ROSIEEEE etc. While enthusiam is a fantastic thing, sadly more information is often needed to fix any issues that might pop up.

I don't expect, and neither should anyone else, a dev to read though 200+ pages of posts to only find that there are only a handful of issues that are actually ROM related and not solvable by other members with a little effort.
[G1 Android Development] osho741:
A general thread for a rom that's a little more open and a straight bug report thread would probably help all invovled maybe u can pm a few developers about this idea to see if there is any support for it.

Aso a moderator that can provide tight strict support of the bug thread to keep it on the striaght and narrow
[G1 Android Development] NeoBlade:
I have suggested to the mods before about having a totally seperate section just for ROMs and that but it looks like it was debunked, along with having any new moderators for this place.

Which is a shame because a lot of threads and points do get lost amongst the often pointless posts that are made, which makes searching and reading them a chore.

I'm not sure what the moderator support is like for the Dream section, I've only seen Mikey being active in trying to establish any ground rules. Have offered my services though if required but will try to help out whenever I can.

I'll ask around though to see if devs would be interested in trying to standardise reports here on XDA and hopefully other members might follow suit before posting.
[G1 Android Development] temporizer:
I really like this idea. It would be nice to have everyone on the same page. I would also like to see a feature where you HAVE to put your info in a sig. The hardest thing about helping people is lack of info. With this in place, everyone will be a lot happier to help then if you just said, "I have a problem" and expecting everyone to read your mind.

Good idea NeoBlade!

I second this idea.
[G1 Android Development] NeoBlade:
Thanks! After all it just makes it easier for the people here, be it devs or helpful members, to diagnose and to figure out solutions when troubleshooting. Its the same process that I use when helping people with technical issues on computers - The more relevant info available, the easier it becomes to track.

Cuts out a lot of guesswork I find.

Enforcing it into your signature would be nice but from the looks of it, most people have put in the effort to display the latest info at least, not all though which can't be helped since its understandable.

At the end of the day, most of us are willing to help out others, as long as they put in a little effort too.
[G1 Android Development] chuckhriczko:
What about a bug tracker? Maybe not even something as formal as a bug tracker but something along those lines. We could set it up to force certain information before submitting a bug such as their current rom, a2sd setup, phone model, motherboard, etc. I am a web developer so if I get some extra time I could write something up pretty quick. Just a thought.
[G1 Android Development] cojonesx:
most of the devs are using googlecode which has a bugtracker with it
[G1 Android Development] Janis:
There's a link to this in Cyanogen's Experimental thread

I think this is a great idea, so don't get me wrong, I just think it's more complicated than bug hunting.

A lot of what gets discussed sometimes isn't directly related to the ROM, but things like best swap methods and battery ussage do end up incorporated into the ROMs. Most people who post on these things do know what they're talking about and do make a contribution to the ROM, and other ROMs, too, and it necessarily stems from the discussion about the ROM, in my experience, most of the time.

In general, if I post, I try to address some sort of work around or solution to a problem that not everyone is having with the ROM. The fora aren't just for the ROM Devs, the rest of us read them, too, and get a lot out of them, despite the occaisional inanity.

If you go through the HTC Wizard ROM Forum, you'll see the same thing, and a ton more heated arguments. What happens as the ROMs progress, is that fewer bugs come up, and the fora get cleaned up right along with them.

What I might suggest is that people title their posts (perhaps be required to do so) with [Bug Report], [Request], [Solution], [Work around], [Comment], [Question], [Discussion], maybe [Misc.] to help sort through the parts of a forum. All of these parts are important enough, and mostly do contribute somehow to the results, which is a great ROM, but the process is people being in the discussion, and that's what's really going on. Wiktionary: forum I imagine if people did this, at least they would have to identify what it is that they're posting, which is where I see the problem. If people were required to think before they post by taking some sort of labelling action, they might second-guess themselves and save the keyboard for something more useful to others. At the least it would let anyone, devs included, filter.

It also might be handy if I could delete my own threads & posts that were errantly posted. We all have them somewhere. And people who post thier feelings rather than their cohesive, relevant thoughts will only be eradicated by educating the masses, so, pay your property taxes and find out what's going on with your local schools (we may be stuck for now, but there's always hope.).
[G1 Android Development] NeoBlade:
Yeah there is an active bug tracker at googlecode already, but I can't really see many people actively taking the time to actually post there and fill in the relevant information.

I have no issue though with discussions in a thread as it adds character and can provide a friendly environment for people to help each other. More often than not, when people see others helping out, they would chime in too with a contribution.

I think Cyanogen though has killed off any compcache/linux swap discussions earlier on as he mentioned in his post that he didn't want to hear anymore of it :P And it has actually remained as so - There are plenty of such threads that exist already.

I agree though Janis with a structured standard title in their posts. It only takes a couple of seconds but can help people skim through what is banter and what issues might need looking at. I'll do so from here on it too (if only fast reply supports post titles!).

Would be nice if there was a notes/announcements section put up on certain sub-forums too outlining some form of post structure like what was mentioned. I'm more familiar with IPB/phpBB personally but I'm sure vBulletin supports it too.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Americanmetal:
http://cgi.ebay.com/4in1-3-5mm-USB-...ries?hash=item3ef742d4a9&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

OEM product from HTC

4 in 1 adapter with a Power Status light contains the following ports

1. HTC ExtUSB standard headset connector

2. Mini USB power connector

3. 3.5mm audio connector (with in-line mic support)

4. 2.5mm audio connector (with in-line mic support)

Anyone use one of these?

Work well?

Does it have the problems that the other adapters usually have?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] mcfz:
High-End.

I would like to know how well this works (if it works at all).

Could come in handy if I needed to record some quick audio!
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Americanmetal:
Bought one last night

I'll report back when I get it.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] eigerzoom:
what problem do other adapters have???

if you mean the difference between a stereo plug an a stereo/mic plug...

then you should not blame products malfuction on your lack of knowledge
[Mogul, XV6800 General] mcfz:
Nice.

My goal is to record some audio somehow on to the unit.

I am a DJ and sometimes would like some "basic" mono recording directly from my mixer.

If this is doable with this phone and adapter I'd be so happy LOL
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Americanmetal:
This adapter has a pinout problem which causes problems with audio out.

Asshole.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] powersquad:
I have the 4-in-1 adapter. Works good. No problems. Syncs, charge all at the same time.

You willl be surprised with the size of this thing. Initially looking at pics I thought it's fairly large and big but it's really small.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] sailow:
Not to mention that you can also use the 3.5mm jack for TVout, but the titan doesn't support that.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] mcfz:
Is there any way to just RECORD AUDIO from a source in to this unit?

I have always wanted to figure it out. With all the recording software for these phones, I got to be able to find SOMETHING that will allow me to record from an audio source.

Help?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] eigerzoom:
while you can use a degrading word really well

is it also possible the solution is simple?

i'm not saying its the problem

because i dont buy these things

but have a look at a pair of "older than dirt" industry standards

its called stereo & stereo w/ mic

hmm...maybe i'm wrong...but i doubt it
[Mogul, XV6800 General] probeboyjl:
I have both the adapter you're asking about and one like the other pictured in this thread. I had to perform the same *fix* with both of them of bending the top right pin (if you have the notched side also on the top right) down in order to get them to work. Once I did that, it works great. I can charge and listen to music on my headphones. I have not used it with any kind of headset that has a mic in it for phone calls or with the connection for the mini-usb style headset. The 3.5mm jack works and the usb/charger port works for sure on mine though.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] typhoonk:
anybody have the one in the first post with a Ryan Mogul ROM?

I had a stock ROM and my USBmini thing to 3.5" worked great.

Moved to a DCD ROM and I had to do the pin out thing to get it too work.

Now with Ryan's ROM's it doesn't switch to audio out, just stays with the internal speaker. Any idea?

maybe this one will work for me?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] probeboyjl:
Yea, I'm using Ryan Moguls verizon 2.2 heavy I believe. I had to change the pin when I had the MR1 update, but both adapters still work now. If I plug the 4-in-1 into my phone the internal speaker keeps playing, but once I plug my headphones into the adapter, the sound switches to my headphones. Can't speak for everyone else's, but it works on mine.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] mcfz:
Is there ANY WAY that I could use the MIC on the 6800 as a LINE-IN for AUDIO???

Mono recording is fine, I don't need Stereo at all.

I hope it is possible.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Americanmetal:
Got my adapter in yesterday, did the pin mod and I'm loving it. :D

It will be nice to listen to Pandora while I'm driving a Uhaul for 400miles :rolleyes:
[Mogul, XV6800 General] mcfz:
Can Anyone help me with this?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] abuttino:
I agree with the last word. I bought this same adapter thinking it would work because it was advertised it would work.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] lindellmm:
i have this OEM product from HTC 4 in 1 adapter . it works ok except it doesn't support out-line mic ....when talking on the phone, you could hear them they can't hear you.
[General Questions and Answers] radiototal:
Does anybody know what's wrong with all this programs?

I had a few years ago a PPC6800 and first time when AGEphone Mobile was on the market I has so happy ...my SIP provider ZAPMOBILE from Romania was working so perfect in USA , clear signal over the SPRINT Data plan and Wifi.

After 6 month I update to mogul , The touch and now I have the Touch Pro.

As far as I upgrade my phones , the VOIP programs like AGEphone Mobile 2.76 and skype was working worse , especial with choppy audio signal , big problems . I spoke to the AEGphone company and they said is my phone.

It can be true ??? Also does someone know the best ROM for HTC Touch Pro compatible VOIP over the wifi and 3G ? Thank you
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fone_fanatic:
UPDATED TO USE GOOGLE SUPL 3/30/10!

What people are saying:

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Here is my own aGPS settings cab.

Created originally for my Raphael, but works perfectly fine on my Rhodium (Touch Pro 2) and should work on any other WM6.1/5 aGPS capable device.

This replaces the default aGPS server to the one GOOGLE aGPS server. This has been found to dramaticaly increase GPS lock speed! After applying this cab i get cold Locks in about 20 seconds and warm gps lock in under 15!

Don't be scared to try it out as its easy to revert to defualt settings!

Try it out and report your results!

I created this so I can just add it to my UC list making life easier in setting up a rom after flashing and thought others might benefit from it.

Feel free to comment, hate, or appreciate :D

If there is a demand, i can easily delete the At&t bit and so its more generic, also if you want this adapted for your provider, reply with your APN and GPRSConnection and i can create the cab for you

It sets the following in the [HKLM\Software\HTC\SUPL aGPS\] Registry

DynamicURL to supl.google.com (searched on the internet and many people claim much faster locks than the default h-slp.mnc410.mcc310.pub.3gppnetwork.org)

EnableAGPS 1 (so aGPS is enabled in settings)

EnableLocInfo 0 Unchecks "Enable AGPS loation information to network services. Operator can get your location information." From the Privacy tab of the AGPS Settings

ServerIP to 74.125.113.192

ServerURL and TLSHostName to supl.google.com

Decided to just make a Generic one that sets the nokia aGPS server, enables aGPS, disables Location info and no network configuration.

[UPDATE: The cabs are the SAME as the previous ones titled FF ATT/Fido/Generic Nokia aGPS Settings, I just changed Nokia to Ultimate because I was getting PMs on how to install them on nokia devices]

update 3/30/10: updated the cabs to use the google supl which is provided on android devices!

There is no need for carrier specific settings, they should automaticly fill in from info already on your device. If you go to HKLM\Software\HTC\SUPL aGPS\ and APN, Network, and GPRSConnection are empty after you've installed the cab and soft reseted, then post here and i will make carrier specific cabs.

[06/08/2010] Re-attached the supl.nokia cab as requested. Please test and compare to the newly attached "FF Ultimate aGPS Tweak_supl.google_Generic.cab" and report your results.

When i ping supl.nokia.com requests time out leading me to believe nokia's servers are down, or they changed them to something else.

[size=+2]With FF Ultimate aGPS Tweak_suple.google_Generic.cab i get a lock in under 15seconds, even after hard reset!![/size]

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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] breezethrusd:
does this speed up gps pick up time?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] finch:
I would really appreciate a cab for Fido.

APN internet.fido.ca

All I put for internconnection is

Name fido

apn internet.fido.ca

user fido

pass fido

Let me know if you require anything else.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fone_fanatic:
check first post, and don't know if it'll make a difference or not but set it to the connection name to Fido, capital F
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Xaaran:
Great work!

Pure awesomeness!

If you could, please make Rogers or unbranded version of this greatness!:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fone_fanatic:
Generic/unbranded version added to first post!:cool:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] finch:
Thanks a million!:D:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] allthatinny:
after installing this my locks were almost instantly, seems like this is the cure for all our GPS problem, i also got FusionGPS installed to get a lock after i soft reset my phone and i get looks btw 20-30 sec out door and 30-80 sec indoor
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tjex:
Finch, did you try the cab? what's the feedback on it working with Fido?

Now only thing left is to find a way to trick the phone into thinking it's on Roger's instead of Fido and get rid of that roaming problem.

..
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fone_fanatic:
If you don't want to try the fido cab, go ahead and try the Generic cab which doesn't touch any of the apn/data settings.

Report back with your results :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] clausg:
Auto Connect?

Hi, I have installed the generic cab. But one question: do I have to establish the data connection by myself manually? I mean, applications like explorer or email do connect automatically once they need it. Apparently AGPS doesn't.

Further, as far as I understand, the generic cab should work everywhere if not limited by your carrier, right? I wonder if it works in Singapore though. Any ideas?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tjex:
Fido seems to work well. Initial fix can be slow but pretty damn fast afterwards.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Sir.B:
Thank you very very much

enables aGPS on my T8285 in USA
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fone_fanatic:
Not 100% sure if it is supposed to activate the data connection or not. If it doesn't, just fire up internet explorer before you decide to use your GPS to have a data connection.

And the generic cab is without data settings, so yes it should work in singapore or with any carrier :D

Your welcome ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] patcat007:
I applied the Generic Cab of GPS settings to my Touch Pro using an Energy ROM Build 6.5 21864 and Radio 1.14.25.05. I must say this is one of the most useful cabs floating around. The GPS locks in about 5 secs. Its almost as if Big Brother is watching you. Thank you Fone Fanatic your cab was of great help.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fone_fanatic:
your welcome :D

and about the big brother comment, thats why this cab does the following

so this doesn't let big brother follow, although, if he did want to he really could and we can't do anything about that :P

glad this helping people out as it did me!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Coderedpl:
So wait, we can use any of them on any carrier or....

Which one do i use for tmobile>?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] evilc:
I installed the generic one on my TP which is on T-Mobile UK.

It did not seem to get a quick lock when I had the data connection disabled.

I enabled the data connection and it seemed to get a quick lock.

So I take it that the generic one will not fire up your data connection itself, but if you get an operator specific one it can?

If so, could I have a version for T-Mobile UK please? I am not sure what the password is, these are the settings I can find on my phone:

APN: general.t-mobile.co.uk

User: T-mobile

Pass: ??? (Starred out)

Is there not maybe some way of taking this info from the phone or automating this process so you dont have to make unique versions of this app?

And what about QuickGPS, does this make it redundant?

Thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] edimonoarfa:
What about touch pro cdma? Should this work for CDMA? I see no APN key in registry. How could I make it work?

Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] arthoes:
I second that I have the unfortunate fate of having a CDMA carrier and dont have the bank acc to drop 3 lines to convert to GSM. Think you could make a .cab for the Sprint network?

Tony