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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sintoo:
Today's app inside Androkkid

HI,

I'm sure this had been asked too many times, but I'm sorry, the word today is too common and a search in this thread would returns hundreds of post !

So here is my question:

How can I add a Today's app (plugin, widget ?) in androkid screen ? GPSToggle for example.

Notice I didn't ask: "What alternative I have instead of a Today's app ?".
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thedicemaster:
can be done already, but you'll have to modify the wallpaper for that.

first determine the size of your screen(usually 240x320 or 480x640)

then multiply the 1st number by the number of pages you have(example, VGA screen 3 pages would be 3x480 resulting in 1440)

then using an image editor such as photoshop make a new image with the 2nd number as height(y) and the number you just calculated as width(x)

(VGA would be 1440x640)

then load all images you want as wallpapers in the image editor and resize them to your resolution(so for vga 480x640) and save them, and then paste the modified images next to each other in the newly created blank image.

all widgets need to be developed specifically for androkkid, regular today items won't work and can only be displayed by minimizing the androkkid screen.

for androkkid widgets, place a folder containing the widget's files in the widget folder inside the androkkid folder.

then add it to the screen by tapping the add/+ button, selecting widget, and double tapping the widget you want to add(or highlight the widget and tap the select button)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] unbound:
The best.

this is the best app i've had in a while. i'm very impressed. i really like every feature it has. from the minimize/close buttons on the top bar, to the stackable icons (unlike android). if you run out of room in android then your outta luck. but with this app you can put icons over widgets and its just great! thanks for this! i do have a suggestion to help with theme development.

i think it would be a big help to be able to refresh the icons on the screen with just a touch of a button. just like we can update the programs list. restarting the app to see the changes time consuming. keep up the good work! later!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] parthabhatta:
I just installed Androkkid on my Acer DX900 dual SIM and its working good. But I am not able to find a way to delete or move the widget. As such widgets are covering each other. Nothing written in the first post and I am not able to find anything after reading first few pages. Still reading but a long thread. If somebody can help as to how to delete/move widgets/ icons etc it will be great!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] alecoddlyiv:
two words "press" and "hold" would also be worth looking at the vid on simo's site ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] burnlea:
The video here will help:

http://www.simosoftprojects.com/androkkid.php

If you still have problems, ask again.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kraski:
A question for Simo. At least at this point, widgets have only one settings file or one section of settings in that file. I tend to differentiate pages with different clocks. I've tried running multiple instances of the same widget (for instance, Hero & Hero1 folders) to use different skins. Is there a way in Androkkid to do that?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] parthabhatta:
Thanks to alecoddlyiv & burnlea I could solve the problem.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] arock169:
i was having this same problem with my sms message waiting indicator THANKS!!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chumpster:
a competition to androkkid?

I found this

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=625652

It looks very similar to Androkkid. I somewhat of a noob, so do you guys have comments?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] burnlea:
You realise its tantamount to high treason to even acknowledge that competition to ANDROKKID could exist:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kraski:
Sounds like he's on a similar track. But that's hard to tell when there's no usable version available, no widgets, no icons, no themes & no way to tell if it's lean & mean or a resource hog. It certainly has a nice look to it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] alecoddlyiv:
Reading the max sense thread it is based around manila 2.5 and requires this to be installed in order to work, the creator does not believe that 2.5 is possible on qvga devices but im pretty sure i saw elsewhere there was a fix for this but either way it relies on manila being installed to make it work which is quite resource heavy and unless you have a rom with it built in takes up a large amount of memory too.

That said it and infinity both have a benefit over androkkid currently in that they can use genuine transpancy for the widgets and icons which in the case of infinity has meant it is easier to create themes and icons to suit your own needs.

Hopefully Simo has been keeping an eye on the competition and has plans to improve the interface in the VERY NEAR FUTURE *cough* *HINT* ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ssj5trunks:
Hi to all, there is a solution for make png transparent using SDF(a library framework that help to so a lots of things that .NET framework dont do) , but i think it's very slow with a lot of images in device in the same time.

I can do some test, but i dont promise nothing.

Bye
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dcirishman91:
i have used this program since before 1.0 and o be honest it is the best but the guy who comes up with widgets charges for them...or the full version which is totaly cool he made them.but i am posting because androkkid widgets arent worth paying for. and i just realized im in the wrong thread.my bad.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kraski:
You're right that Androkkid is awesome. I've been using it since 0.40, myself. I've donated for both the app & the widgets -- because both are well done, useful to how I use my phone, & the authors' time in creating & supporting them is worth something. They could be spending time doing something else either more financially productive or more in tune with the rest of their life. If you choose not to support them, that's your decision. You could always create your own UI & widgets, then distribute & support them for others for free...or not.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wmdirk:
Thanks Bill, as you said: "If you choose not to support them, that's your decision". I provided these widgets for free at the beginning (and some still are, themes I created are freely available as well), and a lot of people downloaded them, but nobody was willing to donate. Then I started to get requests to add new features or even build new widgets, and supporting users started taking up more and more of my (free) time.

I really love Androkkid and building widgets for it, but I'm not going to work for free in my own free time to build things I don't need myself. That's why I charge a small amount (info on my site), and who is willing to support me now gets 11 widgets (and any future widgets or updates of widgets I create). If you'd like to start building widgets yourself, you can use the lib I created for free.

By the way: 11th one is new (and was a request also): WMD-NextAppointments.

I'd like to continu creating Androkkid widgets, but apparently having to pay the price of a couple of beers or a Big Mac menu is too much for most people... It does make me wonder why I keep on doing this.

Fortunately, a few people, like Bill, do appreciate the work some of us do, and their feedback and suggestions keep me going ... for now.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kraski:
I was more amazed by his tone than the comment. He obviously hasn't noted the various ways different app & widget authors on this site have included donation requests as part of their taglines or in their comments. And, if he was upset at paying to get all the features in the widgets, I wonder if he just skipped over Simo's request for donations.

You missed the context of the statement you quoted. Because I'm now waiting for the public unveiling of his group of widgets that, because of his thinking, we know will be quality, full of desired features, fully supported & FREE. Of course he could switch to Infinity (which does look pretty good), whose widgets are mostly free. But, once it gets out of testing, the main app will be shareware, just like Mobile Shell, Pointui, numerous other apps & your widgets.

I work for an employer, mostly having fun at what I do, but also doing some things my boss needs done that I might rather not do in place of the things I'd rather be doing. Part of our mutual agreement is that I'm compensated for what I do. I've also been a writer. There are some things I've allowed to be published for free because I wanted them out there, others that I'd only have done for pay. And we're all used to shareware. As an employee, freelancer, etc. I have a choice what goes into what I do & whether I charge for it or not. As a customer or user, I have a choice of deciding whether I like a product, whether or not it has the features I want & need, whether I'm willing to pay for it or not & how much. If I'm unwilling to do something without pay, I can't tell people they have to buy it. But, if I want to use a paid/shareware app or widget (or whatever), my choices are either pay for it or don't use it. But nowhere in that mix is there a right to tell someone that it's my choice whether they charge for it or not.

Maybe I've got the wrong attitude or maybe I've been jaded by "Real Life (TM)". But I'm now anxiously awaiting the op's continued production of quality, feature rich, useful, well supported, FREE widgets for Androkkid.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] teacher1960:
When I get a little more time to play with it, I plan to buy this Clock+ thing of yours, it seems totally worth the money, cudos to you for making it and like people have repeated here it's a free world if somebody else find 7 bucks too much money then just don't use it.

I plan to put a golden skin on it though;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wmdirk:
Looking forward to the skin :)

Hey, if it's only the clock you want it's even less than 7...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] teacher1960:
Naah I want all the bells and whistles that's to me the big selling point, like quicksite I love that it put's everything together in one (not too big)place:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kraski:
I think what he means is that it's less for 1 widget (in this case, ClockPlus) than $7. The $7 allows you to unlock any & all WMD widgets.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thepolishguy:
$7 and people are complaining? I wonder how many times people complain to the manager at McDonalds, "Don't you think that you should give this Big Mac meal to me for free?"
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kraski:
That wasn't a response to a complaint. Just clarification for Teacher1960, who's intending to donate that for one widget. Like most of us, he doesn't think 7 Euros is a lot for the quality & functionality we get. But it sounded like he might have thought that was the donation level to get all the features in ClockPlus, when there is a 2 Euro level for one widget, 3.5 Euros for 3 widgets, & the 7 Euro amount includes all present & future widgets. More than fair. IIRC the latter converts to $10 or $11 US -- still a real bargain.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dcirishman91:
hey check out my tone now first off i wasnt saying anything about your work other than it great. My only thing is that why couldnt you make a basic version where its just the clock and weather and a deluxe version where it comes with everything else. look for real i wasnt saying that your stuff was crap. i said it was great. it wasnt a personal attack or anything. but since all you nerds have nothing better to do that talk stuff on forms and say stuff about my opinion thats cool. um not using it anymore found one for free with a weather clock. um more functional than androkkid and no need to pay. touchone/touchone alpha. look its not that i couldnt pay it is the fact that im tired of seeing freeware then go to download it and i end up paying for it.then dont call it freeware. again your widgets are great. i understand that you need money and all just dont label it freeware.again great widgets great program.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thepolishguy:
misunderstood

Kraski- sorry. I didn't think you were complaining. I just quoted you bc you mentioned that it was like 7 Euro and I thought for $10 American people shouldn't complain. But in reality even if it was $100, what's the point of complaining? If you don't like the product- weather it is 99 cents or $100- no one is making us pay for it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kraski:
You're right. At the moment, I don't have anything better to do. If I'm understanding your handle correctly, I'm about an hour northeast of you, replying because I don't want to hear anything more about the snow. :eek: And, no, those are not my widgets -- I did catch your tone in both messages & didn't like it. No I'm not a nerd, I just use the goodies they supply us. Anything that helps make my phone work closer to the way I work is awesome -- especially since my communications often help people not to do things that would negatively impact their lives. I don't recall seeing anywhere that Androkkid was necessarily freeware, except by those who made that assumption. Many of Dirk's widgets require a donation for an unlock file to permanently use all the features, others are freeware & both are clearly noted on his site as to which they are. If the features &/or the price don't suit you, then don't use & don't pay for them, but don't complain because the author decided his time in creating them was worth more than nothing. Glad you found an alternative. Happy shovelling.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wmdirk:
Just a small reaction from my part: on my site's homepage all widgets are listed and for each widget there's an indication: "free", "donate to get all features", or "donators only". And there's plenty of links to the "benefits for donators" page that explains the details... The word "freeware" is nowhere to find (on my site).

PS: just tried TouchOne, but I didn't get it to function really well on my phone... Still, it's an alfa version. I'll try again when it's actually released.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] savagesabu:
..

Just posting to thank Simo for all the great work.

I tried the others (like TouchOne) and I like Androkkid much better. The only thing the others do better is smoother scrolling. It would be great if Simo finds a way to do this aswell.

One suggestion:

would it be possible to expand the theme-settings to also include the placements of the icons and widgets. Different backgrounds ask for different placement. At his moment I have to change the theme, and then change the placement of the icons by hand.

Thanks again Simo, great work!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jschall:
Androkkid Graphics

Adding my gratitude to Simon. Androkkid is SO much easier to configure and use.

BUT the graphics on TouchOne are so gorgeous to compare with Androkkid's blocky icons. Could Androkkid's graphics be cleaned up, or would that eat up too much RAM?

- Jeff Schallenberg

Mont Saint Hilaire, Québec
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] teacher1960:
I think my Androkkid screen looks just fine:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dijor69:
Hello, It would be possible to make a shortcut to the configuration options such as the Start menu on the desktop androkkid?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thepolishguy:
Here is a little .exe that you can stick on "the desktop" that takes you to your start menu (at least it works on 6.5).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dijor69:
Thanks, i works in 6.1, but no use to me, I set up to see androkkit topbar instead of the topbar and win this program only shows me the startmenu topbar taking home win

Another idea?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] teacher1960:
Ifonz/Windows Mobile 7

Congratulations to our visionary IFonz/Androkkid creator Simo.

Steve Balmer is showing off with the new Windows Mobile 7 and it looks exactly and I mean exactly!!! like Ifonz, when I saw an article today on windows 7 without knowing what I was looking at I thought I was looking at some of my old screenshots that I have publlshed earlier of my Ifonz setup, look at the picture from todays newspaper and then look at the more than a year old screenshot below.

look for instance at this screenshot from 15th of February 2009 already at post #4 of the Ifonz2 thread (not mine):

ps the black gap was a problem of this particular user, I didn't have this problem but I couldn't be bothered to look for ages for my old screenshots
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kraski:
Does that theme work for Androkkid?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] teacher1960:
It's not a theme it's an app and what you see is the homescreen. But it's a wonderful app and I still use it at the same time as Androkkidd and run both apps simultaneously as you can see in my WKTasks taskbar in the following screenshots from today:

Ps just let me add in all modesty ;)that it's my icons you see on the screens
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ssj5trunks:
Hi to all, the iFonz 2 inteface homescreen when i do it i'm based on a picture found on internet, and i dont know who is the creator of this picture.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] berhu:
wm pluggin today as widget

Very nice app

Is it possible for next release to use wm pluggin today as widget ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] spannernick:
Is Visual Basic .NET 2008 and Visual Studio the same..?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wmdirk:
Visual Basic.net is part of Visual Studio.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wmdirk:
There are 2 new (free) widgets on my site:

- WMD-Backgrounds

- WMD-BatSig

WMD-Agenda v3.0 beta 4 is available as well.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Travisz0:
hey im tryin to install androkkid on my htc diamond I put the .cab on the internal storage and installed I get errors when trying to open it. I have 3.5net on my phone. What is going wrong please help this looks so cool.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Travisz0:
Androkkid.exe

ObjectDisposedException

at Microsoft.AGL.Common.MISC.HandleAr()

at System.Drawing.Font._Init()

at System.Drawing.Font..ctor()

at Androkkid.Start..ctor()

at System.Reflection.RuntimeConstructorInfo.InternalInvoke()

at System.Reflection.RuntimeConstructorInfo.Invoke()

at System.Reflection.ConstructorInfo.Invoke()

at System.Activator.CreateInstance()

at MyForms.Create__Instance__()

at MyForms.get_Start()

at Androkkid.Start.Main()
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wmdirk:
Have you tried the zip and just unzip the files on your storage card? That worked for me (Diamond as well)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wmdirk:
WMD-Agenda v3.0 is released.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wmdirk:
If you're looking for Androkkid themes, have a look on my site. There are a couple of new themes and now it's easy to customize my widgets for a (WMD) theme with a single click.

My themes are:

- Espresso

- Aqua Blue

- Nexus One

- Nexus One Phoca Thumb

- Star Wars

- Nature

- WMDrokkid
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ssj5trunks:
Very good themes wmd.

Now i have created my first program for Android.

Matrix Code

Bye
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wmdirk:
Thanks. Just added a new theme: XBox.

Are you sure you don't want to go back to your old WM device with Androkkid :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] alecoddlyiv:
i hope this doesnt mean that development is stopped.

if that is the case can you make it open source so that someone else can pick up the ball?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ssj5trunks:
I thinking if do it or not.

Bye
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] alecoddlyiv:
I really hope you do continue :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kraski:
I'll second that thought. The alternatives either aren't as interesting or have a long way to go to catch up. When I used my Treo Pro, I alternated between Manila 2D & Androkkid. On my Tilt2, I pretty much stay in Androkkid 24/7. There are some interesting things in Titanium, TF3D is built in, but I can get Androkkid to work pretty much the way I do.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wmdirk:
If you do decide to continu Androkkid development, here's my wishlist:

- landscape support

- transparent graphics

- less power consumption (a while ago I deactivated Androkkid for a weekend because I had no way to charge my device, and there was quite a difference in power consumption)

- possibility to run Androkkid in the Today screen

- a locking mechanism (kinda like S2U2) would be nice as well

If you decide not to continu development, I hope you'll let us know as well. But I think it'll be hard to find someone to continu development if you should decide to make the source available (I guess it would be the end of Androkkid, which would be a real shame). If the decreasing number of posts (just about none lately) on the XDA Androkkid threads are a success indicator (and I've seen traffic going down on my site as well), Androkkid could do with a re-animation... There's a lot of competition these days.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kraski:
I'll agree with all your wish list. Especially the landscape mode. Androkkid is not a finished product without it.

As for the lower traffic, I think most are pretty happy with what's available with themes, widgets & functionality. You can't ask for what you don't think of. And I'm sure that I'm not the only one whose schedule has gotten busier. But, if others are like me, I lurk a couple of times a day to see what's new.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dni63:
Hi,

I really like it :D many thanks.

However, I have a little problem, I can't open my start menu :(

I think because Androkkid runs on top of everything, so it hides my start menu.

Anyone has the same problem?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wallaces:
Hi dni, you can minimize Androkkid to access your start menu. Just tap the left button and select Minimize. You can also assign an icon on the screen to minimize it with only one tap.

Androkkid is great!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dni63:
it's working thanks.

But is there anything I can do to make start menu working without minimize it?

I mean like SPB, I can access start menu without minimizing SPB mobile shell.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wallaces:
I'm sorry, I don't know of a way to make it work normally. Might could use Mortscript somehow to make an icon linked to a script that minimizes Androkkid and brings up the Start Menu, but not sure if that would work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kraski:
Don't forget that most of your start menu is available from the bottom pull-up menu. The rest can be accessed via special shortcuts, widgets, etc. If there are specific things you need to access, mention them here & maybe we can give you ways to do that.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kraski:
Taskbar Glitch

Hi, Simo. When I first started using Androkkid, I had the WM taskbar showing to access some features & functions not otherwise available. Between updates to Androkkid, widgets & external apps, I can now pretty well access everything I need to. So, I run Androkkid without a taskbar. Once or twice a day, something pops up the taskbar for no obvious reason. The only way to get rid of it is to open, then close any app. It's a minor annoyance but it'd be nice if it didn't happen. It's been happening for awhile. I've only seen this with the most recent version of Androkkid, but I've only been going without a taskbar in this version. So, I'm not sure if it's new to this version or a carryover from previous versions.

Since, you might be switching to other things, figured I'd mention it before it was too late. With that fixed & Dirk's feature requests (especially landscape support), Androkkid would be pretty complete.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Dadalolz:
Is it possible to make an Androkkid xperia panel?

I mean, like this:

original post by matejdro
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dni63:
I don't really like putting all of it on home screen, but it's ok,

maybe you can give me a guide how to make shortcut for stuff like running task, silent phone, remove programs...

many thanks :)