yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bfspider:
looks like a new build is out..

http://www.redmondpie.com/download-windows-mobile-6.5-build-23045-com578/

http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=406
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] DANDANA:
Use this...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] DANDANA:
Start-Settings-Personal-Phone-Ring Type-Vibrate and Ring
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] elrasho:
Fu*k me! Its there! Ive been staring at that screen and never though to look under the "Ring type" section... thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Willie1961:
Started off trying to be a fan of NATF, but the releases that Ive downloaded have been very buggy.

I switched over to the "energyrom" version in this forum.

VERY IMPRESSED!

Sorry NATF, waited for an update forever to your last buggy build, couldnt wait any longer!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] harpo1:
NATF puts alot of time in on his ROMS and doesn't deserve some assh$le hijacking his thread to promote another ROM and talking **** about him. So if you want to switch ROMs switch just leave your comments to yourself. By the way if you're so impatient develop your own ROMs
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] PsychoJim:
Way to be rude and disrespectful! NATF works very hard at these ROMs and he works on these them on his free time. He's not here to cater to your or anyone elses needs!

No one cares if you are leaving...good bye and good riddiance.

Keep up the great work NATF...I have no issues with 5.5B Manila. Smooth as ever!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] buzzmanfly:
HA! Yeh

Personally I don't know how 5.5b Manila can be better. I hated my Fuze with the original ROM. 5.5B Manila does more than I ever expected out of my phone when I purchased it. It has a nice clean look and it isn't trashed up with someone else's sense of style.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] harutfromnh:
can we get Fennec Alpha 3 on these roms?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bfspider:
have ya used it yet?

it's still pretty buggy bug bug when I tried it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hellz:
So this has to be the oddest bug I've encountered to date...

All day my phones been experiencing an extreme battery drain, when it was sluggish i'd check the running processes and notice that Manilla.exe was using 100% cpu, ok fine, probably sync'ing with Facebook. A few minutes would go by and it would go back to normal, but still draining the battery... Every time I went to do a soft reset something distracted me and I'd forget. Finally I saw a lingering notification on the top bar, but couldn't find what it was, so I assumed it was a hiccup and decided to soft reset. When the phone was done starting up, I received a text from a number that looked familiar. I went to check my address book and there's NOTHING. I went to manilla and looked at my "People" tab and it showed all my favorites... I figured, what the hell let me try another reset. Now when I click on the people tab it crashes and restarts TF3D! And Still no contacts! lol anyone else ever experienced this? And I'm using the 5.5B version of the ROM.'
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Jdilla:
This is what I'm talking about. If you had done any research, you would have found that this ROM ends up being more efficient and functional than any other out there. All of the bugs were resolved within a week of the v5.5B release i.e. the dialer issue and the manila fix position. I regularly flash updated NRGZ roms which havent even gone past the 23016 build. Im impressed with NRGZ but NATF has taken an amazing amount of time to construct the best possible rom for whatever current version is out and makes sure its reliable. Time is money in this world today and NATF is entitled to more than he deserves for his contributions to this site.

Nope. This is weird. What do you have installed that could possibly cause this? And were you in an area with poor reception where the radio had to use more power to get better signal? Or something similar? Check the task manager to make sure extra programs aren't running.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] harutfromnh:
no i havent but i think they released a new version today
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] LethalCorpse:
I'm using 5.5b touch pro standard. Should I be seeing video calling, or has it been cut due to compatibility/performance/stability/other difficulties? If it's in there, how do I find it? If it's not, will it be going into some future build, or is it in the too hard basket.

I don't really care about video calling in general, but my mother in law left me a video mail, and I can't get rid of the damn message telling me it's there every time I call my voicemail.:o
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hellz:
Yes and no. Yes I am in a poor reception area, but I'm in a poor reception area every day ;). The program issue is what I was thinking. I think it might have been Manila keeping the database open while I did a soft reset, thus corrupting it. I ended up having to do a hard reset and restore via MS MyPhone so I'm back to normal, I'm just praying it doesn't happen again.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tinpanalley:
Hey NATF

Everything working smoothly with the ROM. I'm using standard (I think? No TF3D.) Anyway, just to keep you filled in with possible bugs, I don't know if anyone's mentioned these. Not sure if they're just happening to me. Just wanna help:

- The RSS Hub crashes while you're reading and then very often can't be closed through the Task Manager. It just freezes when you try to back out of a story.

- when selecting recipients to write an email to, if you use the keypad to select from the dropdown list for a specific person who has more than one email address, when you hit enter to select one, the subject, TO:, and other areas become garbled and you can't type. You have to exit out and lose the email

- This may just be AT&T, but I'm getting lots of instances where an email won't go through and I have to reboot to send.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Elrendhel:
No v5.6 yet? Then the Joker must have his attention at this time (believe me, it would be well-deserved if he did).

Looking forward to it's release though!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tinpanalley:
Hey folks... just occurred to me... is there not any kind of weather program on 6.5?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] harutfromnh:
try page 3 post #5
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] LethalCorpse:
That's QVGA. We have VGA.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bedobela:
I'm still pretty new in this so as almost everyone suggested, I flashed the latest energy ROM. It is very well done BUT my problem is that I have spent too much time customizing it to look as the default one looks (with green highlights and stock taskbar). After I reinstalled the stock taskbar and everything, the battery indicator didn't work.

Then I tried this ROM. I was expecting a lot of bugs but didn't really encounter too many. Plus the battery life is amazing...It is indeed a really good ROM and we should thank NATF for this.

My bugs:

-the tachi dialer doesn't work well.It has a scroll bar and you can't scroll through the dialed numbers or any number but I wasn't using that anyway, so not a problem for me.

-even if I turn of 3G for battery preservation, when I soft reset my phone it's turned back on. This isn't a big one either because the battery lasts long enough with 3G too.

Conclusion: I think that there are 2 kinds of people:

-who like the Energy ROM

-who like NATF's ROM

I'm currently using NATF ROM and liking it. Both of you are doing a great job. Thank you and sorry for comparing them here but it can be considered a feedback.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Willie1961:
What happened to 5.6, wasnt it being released 10-12 days ago?

If you want a clean, fast, incredible ROM, I suggest the energyROM.

Extremely stable.

Couldnt take the NATF bugz and it killed me waiting for a new ROM that was probably going to have bugz in it anyways.

NATF, where are your priorities? Work, friends, life outside this forum? hahaha we need your focus to put out a better product!

:-)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] TheWeird1:
maybe you are the problem here and not the ROM? I have tried many ROM's and non of them are as stable or give me the battery life (almost 3 days with GPS use!) that this one does. sure there maybe some minor problems in the ROM but hey are you perfect? don't think so.

If you are such a energyRom fan thats ok but go to that thread and don't come here saying this is a bad ROM and every one should use a other ROM.

NATF keep up the good work!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ANDROiD KiLLSWiTCH:
agreed

What is going on here? I go away for five days to come back to a flame war befitting only to engadget. I personally have been juggling back and forth between NATF and Energy. Nether are perfect, both have there charms, and all are much much better than what ATT had for me.

This is all XDA, we are all here to reap from the bounty of others talent. There is no point to rip on NATF, he has made excellent ROMs for years, and I am quite sure much better than what any of us can come up with, otherwise we would be posting in our own ROMs thread, yes?

I for one abhor disrespect towards those who spend there free time to make our phones better, funner, and faster. Ask yourself how much you have given NATF or NRG in donation? Who have you helped on this site? What genius program have you created that has made us all go ooooooh? That is what I thought.

Turn your eyes down, clasp your hands, clear your mind, and humble yourself people. Let those who can, do, with out these unnecessary distractions.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Asigodia:
You said it! AMEN!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] amite277:
looks sweet but i dont know how to flash a cooked rom :/
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ANDROiD KiLLSWiTCH:
quite simple

Welcome, here is where you can start. Pleas know that a search is appreciated before posting to keep our forums clean. :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] harpo1:
This is the second post this week from this jerk. A moderator needs to ban this person from this site.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] LethalCorpse:
if you want to commission a developer to write you some software, and get all the conditions put down in a contract, then you get to ***** about deadlines - in fact, you get to sue. But while you're freeloading on the abilities and generosity of a developer you'll get what you're given when you're given it, and you'll be grateful for it, or you'll keep your damn mouth shut.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] debrat98:
+1 we don't need jerks like this on this site. NATF you do an amazing job with your ROM's.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hdaackda:
+1 to that. ban him for *****ing

Although I am not current using the NaTF ROm, I really liked it!! (am using freshest rom)... besides, what sort of a loser *****es about a freebie?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] stozmon:
Update?

Hey Todd,

I was hoping we could get a status update on the new build. Thanks for the brilliant work you do!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] RobtWms:
Amen, Brother! While I'm not a fanboy, I think NATF and all these other developers do an outstanding job improving MY phone for me. I, truly, am not worthy.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] reedster5555:
Reject with Text

I just flashed to HTC Fuze v5.5B Standard, and in previous builds there has been an option to "Reject phone call with text." Or something similarly worded. I don't see that in this ROM. Am I missing it, did it move?

Going into Settings Phone (which seems to be a little more roundabout to get to than it used to be, as I went in through the Communications manager screen.) And then scrolling through the various tabs, all of the ones are there that I would expect (Sound, Data, Time, etc) just not the one that has that setting on it.

I don't use the function, so always uncheck the box whenever I hard reset, put a new ROM on etc.

Am I being being dense and it is right in front of me, or is it missing? And if it is missing, what is it set to?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] lordsilent:
I seem to be unable to get my computer to recognize my phone when connecting via USB. Any thoughts?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] zgene4:
format the HD.:cool:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] pbratton:
So, if you have no help to offer, why bother with this kind of answer?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] l3it3r:
What OS? Xp? Vista? 7? Do you have the latest version of Activesync / WMDC?

Try another USB port / Cable?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] buzzmanfly:
It's in there

After sliding to ignore the call look in the bottom right where it says "send text" then select your message
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] peterson65:
i had the same problem and re-downloaded active sync and reinstalled and it fixed the problem
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Magelumbus:
Before you reinstall, I would reboot the PC and soft reset your phone. Make sure you have the phone disconnected before rebooting. Reconnect once the boot is finished. This has worked for me a number of times, especially when I disconnect the phone and then reconnect before the software has had a chance to update the device status.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ANDROiD KiLLSWiTCH:
Outlook

sometimes outlook can cause issues. I have run into sync problems before, and different things had to be done; configure outlook, reinstall sync.

The best thing for you to do, since this thread is for NATF ROM, is to Bing or Google the error code, and if there is an official MS link, go there. I did this for the few times I had problems with sync and found a solution quick enough.

Now, where has NATF gone? I hope all is ok. Defending Gothem must be really tough. :rolleyes:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Elrendhel:
You may need to disable fast-connect, an option enabled on many phones by default.

1.) Please unplug your phone from the USB cord temporarily.

2.) Go to Start > Settings > Connections > USB to PC:

3.) There is an optional setting "Enable Faster Data Sync" under the ActiveSync main option. If yours is checked, please uncheck it.

4.) Reconnect your phone via USB and see what happens.

I hope this helps....
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Asigodia:
Was wondering that myself. Awful quiet around here... maybe too quiet.

Could he be in the Joker's clutches?

Should we put out a call for Superman or Green Lantern?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] drugusv:
where is NATF, maybe now he has another device :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] matthewjayala:
Flashing ROM and sending it back under warrenty.

Has anyone ever flashed the ROM on their phone and then sent it back to AT&T. I love flashing my Fuze but if i have Flashed it and then but back the original ROM will AT&T not send it back under the one year warranty?

P.S. i have send back phone and kept up the one year warranty still the 8125 becuz after the warranty expires when they send you a rebuild one it starts a 3 month warranty. Just FYI.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Elrendhel:
I think that most users who flashes their devices knows to restore the original ROM prior to returning the device. Is that what you meant?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Jdilla:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2431785&postcount=1

THIS INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND BY USING THE SEARCH FUNCTION...

UPDATE: STEP BY STEP HOW TO RETURN TO STOCK SPL - FOR WARRANTY REASONS ONLY!

0. be sure to first restore stock OS, and stock radio. stock SPL is always to be done last!!

1. download the stock spl package from this post.

2. also download the original hardspl from the attachments in this post.

3. run the hardspl exe but do not click anything in RUU yet. just let the hardspl EXE extract the files for flashing.

4. the SPL you want to revert to is a .NBH file, put the NBH in the extracted hardspl package, overwriting the original NBH file in it!

5. continue with the RUU (or if needed, run SSPL-Manual.exe manually, then run RUU when it goes to black screen), it goes to 100%, reboots, done.

+6. to verify, volume down + reset, see version number on tricolour screen, should now just say 1.90.0000.

that's it.

Thanks to OliNex for the advice.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] LethalCorpse:
First time I've heard anyone use Bing as a verb. Also the first time I've heard anyone suggest it as an alternative to google with a straight face.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mr.jaguar:
isn't that what microsoft was aiming for?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] LethalCorpse:
Sure, but the last time Microsoft hit what they were aiming for was windows 3.11
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] l3it3r:
Damn... you have text to speech enabled on your computer?

:rolleyes:

To me, 'binging' something has a COMPLETELY different meaning :p

Back to the topic:

I cannot get a location fix in Bing, Google Maps or any other location aware app (GPS works - slowly, but not cell tower location fix).. :confused:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] nineinchplate:
Looking Great!

Long time lurker and NATF v4 user. Don't know why it took so long to switch over to v5, but it is pretty sweet. Thanks for the hard work!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bangbang023:
I hope Natf comes back soon with an update. I'm itching to try some of the latest UI changes out.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] prisoner881:
Given that NATF last mentioned v5.6 with an ETA of around 9/9/09, I would suspect he's been (a) absolutely slammed with unexpected work, (b) found unexpected issues with 5.6, or (c) been kidnapped by the Leather Goddesses of Phobos for pleasure experimentation.

While I'm sure we're all wishing for (c) -- and I'm sure he is, too -- it's very likely to be a combination of (a) and (b). Thus we should wish him well and hope whatever's causing the unexpected delay gets quickly resolved to his relief.

If it's (c) then we're all doomed and might as well go home.

;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Sab3elbromba:
This is one of the best ROMS I have used on my TP, really is, any chance of upgrading 23049 ?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] stozmon:
Hope he's okay

I dunno, Todd has always been really great about giving updates and keeping us in the know as to his progress and the status of his work. This long silence and delay is somewhat unlike him. I hope he's okay...:(
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] wdkingery:
+2

i laughed damn hard at your "bing as a verb" comment, then profusely when you said that.

poor M$

yes i hope we are not hung here; i still have to make every number i dial an entry into the address book first (which has been likely forcing a left handed kid to use the wall pencil sharpener) and i'm quickly missing the option to adjust volume in-call in any fashion.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] RobtWms:
Isn't that the preparation to Badonk?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] LethalCorpse:
I have a few niggling issues

When I press the home button I'd like it to bring up CHome instead of restart. Is there a way to do this?

Looking in the buttons list on the personal settings page, I don't see an answer to my first query, but I do see a bunch of buttons I don't recognise. We have a PTT button? where? (using TP, not fuze). How about contacts, calendar, IM and CV buttons?

the email panel in CHome appears to show outlook email by default, and it's quite fiddly to get to the other email account I've set up. I don't read my email by syncing to my PC, I download it directly, and I suspect that's what most people do. Is there a way to make the other account the default, or hide or even completely remove the outlook email?

I've installed fingerkeyboard, which beats the hell out of the stock kb. After a soft reset, it disappears and I have to go back into finkgerkb settings to get it back. Is this likely to be an issue with the app or the ROM, and is there a known fix?

Most ROMs I've used display connection time and a disconnect button on the connection tooltip. Any way to put this on NATF?

thanks!

-LC
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Jdilla:
I can answer your 4th question. It requires a SIP changer.. Install, select keyboard type and voila... it will stay selected. Hope that helps :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] LethalCorpse:
awesome, thanks Jdilla. If only they could all be so easy
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ANDROiD KiLLSWiTCH:
hi

Hi NATF, good to see you.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] buzzmanfly:
Just Bing it
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] buzzmanfly:
In his last post regarding 5.6 NATF stated something about being hung up on the unlock screen slider.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] TJ311:
What "bell" icon are you referring to? My alarm is not working either. I don't see a bell icon. I'm in the alarm clock page and I have it set to ON. I have selected an alarm sound. Nothing. The alarm indicator on the main page of TF3D shows the alarm as "off". But then after the set time passes, the alarm indicator on TF3D shows it "on". Strange. Anyone else having this issue?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tinpanalley:
Hey all,

Where are my pictures saving to when I take them on this ROM? I tried using Advanced Config to direct them to a specific folder but it didn't work. Any way to direct them to a specific folder?

Any ideas? Thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bfspider:
I think you can specify where you want them saved on the camera settings.

If you're saving them to a card or the device. They would be saved under the My Docs/My Pics folder.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] buzzmanfly:
Windows default is DCIM

DCIM folder is the default folders
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bfspider:
oh where, oh where, has NATF gone? oh where, oh where, can he be? :confused:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ANDROiD KiLLSWiTCH:
:):rolleyes::confused::( Need I say more?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] matthewjayala:
At&t Tilt 2

Does anyone know of what kind of deals 3rd party companies will offer? I remember that the Fuze got like 100 cheaper then what At&t was asking. Is there any difference buying thru a 3rd party company? Thank you very much just looking for the best deal. If i do buy it thru at&t and find a better deal can i return it and buy thru a 3rd party? NATF will you be making ROMs for the tilt 2 when it comes out?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
I'm back from my absence. As you may notice by my signature/profile, I am no longer using AT&T as my service provider. Due to several months of ongoing issues with them (escilating greatly in the last 10 days), I have decided to switch to Verizon Wireless, and I am now using the lovely Touch Pro2.

I still have my Fuze, and I will be getting back into ROM cooking for it, but it is no longer active, so I will not be able to test data functions.

I just wanted to drop a quick line letting you know I didn't just vanish into thin air. I haven't read up on the thread yet, but I am in the process of doing that.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ANDROiD KiLLSWiTCH:
The best deal for me is to buy the TP2 for $500 and use my subsidized deal for a WM7 phone next year :p I think you will need to look around, there is wirefly, amazon has good deals, but a lot of good deals are for people with new contracts, not renewing.

On a more relevant subject I saw the green ghost of NATF glowing on the first post just now. I have ventured off and have been trying other ROMs to get a chance to play with the new builds, but a lot of them are still working out bugs and speed. I like them though, and I think it is good for experienced ROM flashers to help find the bugs with these newer chefs. I do wish I had a new NATF ROM to fall back on though. :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Ovrclck:
hey natf, sad to hear you left ATT, so i'm guessing the fuze won't really be priority anymore huh?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
I still have the Fuze, and I always honor my commitments. Until HardSPL shows up for the CDMA/GSM-hybrid TP2, I will still be around in this forum. I also plan to cook ROMs for the Tilt2 upon release, but someone will have to test them for me prior to wide release.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Ovrclck:
Sounds good! :)

Any news on 5.6?