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[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] jtjahjadi:
Actually u guys should be thankful that you are in the US.. I'm from Indonesia and the cheapest data plan is US$10 for lousy 250 MBs, $50 for 3 GB.. Unlimited data plan does not exist.. Oohh, and the connection sucks by the way..
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] crpercodani:
PDA Personal Unlimited Data is 30/month. The unlimited data your talking about is for non smartphones, if you look in the details (You need a compatible plan and phone to get this feature.

See compatible: Phones and Plans

AT&T: Quickfire

LG: CF360 , CG225 , CG300 , CU320 , CU400 , CU500 , CU500v , CU920 , GR500 , Neon , Shine

Motorola: Karma , KRZR , L2 , L6 , L7 , MOTO EM330 , RAZRV3 , RAZRV3I , Tundra , V365 , V3r , V3xx

Nokia: 2600 , 2610 , 6030 , 6061 , 6102i , 6126 , 6555 , 6650 , N75

Pantech: C120 , C150 , C3 , C300 , C520 Breeze , C530 , C610 , C630 , Matrix

Samsung: A127 , a237 , A517 , a637 , A707 , A737 , A767 , a777 , C417 , D347 , D407 , D807 , Eternity , Impression a877 , Magnet , Rugby , SGH-ZX20 , X507 , ZX10

Sony Ericsson: C905a , W300i , W350 , W518a , W580i , W760a , W810i , Z525a , Z750a

Monthly Price	$15.00

) it doesnt apply to the fuze, I wish it did though. 200 txt's is 5/month, check the site. I have tried to switch to the 15/month data and it says incompatible device or whatever so you cant use it that way.

To Farmer Ted, do you get data also? I am very interested about that if it will allow data connections at a similar price.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] crpercodani:
You must not have looked at many of the 30,000+ apps for the iphone/ipod touch because there are thousands of business related apps, you more or less run your business from it, and i know you also can with the fuze but if you look at how easy it is to use the iphone (since when did ease of use equal "for children") vs the fuze then it realls is a simple decision. You can sure dress up the winmo ui but the basics of it have barely changed since 5, tf3d is pretty and somewhat useful along with a few others but they are more or less just today screens, same with the iphone basically but if you knew anything about it you would know it doesnt have to be pages of icons, i have my ipod touch customized with so you just have categories and there are many other ways to change it. If anyone puts the same amount of time into one that they have the fuze or other winmo device you would see that. Jailbreaking the iphone stops apple from controlling what you can do with your iphone, there are plenty of sites to get unnaproved apps or to get others for free, just like warez for our phones. There are plenty of valid points as to what fuze can do better or why it is better but the whole iphone is for kids or non techy people is just stupid because the developer community for it is much, much more then this, most of you just wont/dont want to accept that.

Oh and I don't plan to switch to a iphone, not any time soon atleast. Maybe a pre or g1, but I am ok with my fuze + ipod touch for now.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Farmer Ted:
No, I'm too cheap for data; I use wifi a lot, though. I text maybe 5 times/month and make like 30 min of phone calls. There aren't any contracts out there that made any sense at all for me, so I just paid full price for the phone and kept my old t-mobile account. I'm not a big fan of long term contracts, anyway. I really didn't want to pay for stuff like 450 minutes/month that I had no chance in hell of using. That's almost a whole year for me.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] deeznuts:
Ok, 30,000+ apps and still no mms? Wtf? Even my ghetto 8525/htc hermes has mms! Might be att's fault on that but also apple since their first and even second gen phones werent capable of that. Did they think the iphone user would have no use to view or send pictures? Or maybe they where thinking $$$ and producing a phone with these capabilities a year down the road so the suckers pay for first gen, and now 3rd gen to get the capabilities first gen should have had, double the cash for apple! Like i said, once the iphone has all their bases covered with features a simple flip phone has, then ill look into it. And again, by then we will probably have touch pro 7 at the pace apple is going with their iphone. It took how long now to just get their keyboard app to work in landscape, wtf? I just see the new iphone 3g s to have been the first gen iphone. Thats the one that has all the basic features like our phones. Yet it took them how long to produce this phone? Maybe i have to really play with an iphone before deciding, but again, if i can take pics but cant send em, friends have to email me pics cus my $300+ phone is too ghetto to receive pics, then that alone is enough to turn me away. Oh but wait, theres 30,000+ apps out there to help u forget about all the standard features the iphone is barely coming out with. Oh i can take video now and send it on the new 3g s model? Wow, never heard of a phone with capabilities like that before! Give me a break apple, seriously wack! Once they produce a real iphone then ill play with it since i do like the design and idea very much. But again, by that time who know what other phones, iu, interfaces, will be on the market? Maybe making the iphone so last year, or if others like htc, palm, nokia, cant produce anything better than a touch pro, iphone might be the only hi-tech phone to get? Only time will tell but apple's pace on producing a phone with such basic features does not impress me or show much promise.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] crpercodani:
As far as apple goes I agree with you totally, they are retarded for not having mms or copy paste because i had that **** on my first cell like 5 years back. They definetly screwed up on that but you are mistaken on having to buy a 3gs to get those features, all you need to do is download the free OS 3.0 update and it adds those plus some nice other features to iphone 1st gen and 2nd gen(3g). As for the iphone itself, it is a amazing device because like i already said the user/dev community is massive and you can do so many things with the apps, not flashy eye candy **** to impress people but every day tools and such. Games on it are incredible and with the multi touch, accelerometer and cap. screen its got great control and gameplay. Jailbreaking is a must just like we ROM flash and whatnot so I dont see it as a big deal to need to do it because its no different with our devices.

I feel the need to say that i am in no way trying to defend apple, they are as a company a bunch of we-think-we-are-the-**** assholes who lock ALL the products within there company, like how osx wont (easily) install onto a pc but yet ms lets windows onto any pc you want, or mac, thats why i say **** you to there $2-4k pc's and notebooks and just run osx86 on my hp touchsmart. The products they make are very nice, hold a macbook pro and you feel the difference in craftsmanship, but not enough to justify the rape you price they charge. Like you I really like the physical design of the iphone and its platform but not the control apple has on it but with whats availible to fix that i personally think it makes it one of the best mobile devices ever made, and probably the best out right now.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] deeznuts:
I think many will argue not the best out right now. For sure top 3 best out right now. Idk, i see them at least another year away from catching up with features they should have had when they first came out. Its just like anything really, first year or so of a totally new product is gonna be crap and defects and oh i forgot to add this or that kind of stuff. By a year from now iphone will be at the top or a thing of the past. I hope for any company to rank to the top, just want to get my moneys worth. Right now with iphone i dont see myself getting my moneys worth, especially with stupid att still trying to get mms service on it! If iphone really makes a difference by next year, ill more than likely get one. Again, only time will tell but at the moment, not incrediably impressed with the iphone, more hype then anything i think and trendy. People see my phone and theyre like, wtf is that? Sorry my phone doesnt have an app to wipe my a$$ but i can send/receive mms and copy and paste, haha!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] atomic2mod:
Barely have any problems to speak of. Running original Sprint ROM. No lag, no slow apps. Just the best phone I have ever had (have the diamond too, same good experience).

Only implemented a few simple tweaks and love the rest (except the camera maybe, but I don't use it much)

OP: is it possible you got a bum phone? Do you know anyone else in Greece with a TP? do they all have these problems?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] 8525Smart:
(Note: Regarding text being $5. Me saying $2 was a typo, thus why my total still came to $60 [40 + 15 + 5 = $60]. Sorry about that.)

Anyway, I see what you mean now. Searching around AT&T's website is a bit confusing and they have numerous different data plans just to maximize their profits in every potential area, so I had misread the potential cost.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] macrompian:
Partially agree

I must admit I partially agree. When I went from my Trinity to the HTC Touch Pro I was really shocked that my Trinity seemed to, well just perform better. Granted I can run up some apps on the Pro I could not on the Trinity, but overall the Trinity performance/responsiveness seems better!!

That being said, I much rather having a device like a Touch Pro that I can play around with rather than a hardware appliance like the i-drone.

This post seems to be turning into an i love/hate i-drones post so just one quick comment on applications. You have to agree that the number and types of apps available for the i-drone is mainly market driven. There are a lot of devs out there trying to make a business out of flogging shiny new apps to the mostly technically unsophisticated i-drone user base.

Remember back in the day when your unboxed your new WinMo phone, switched it on and only got a Start button? No UI, no Touch3D etc? How many i-drone users could you see using a device like that? It's choice man, choice.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] deeznuts:
Totally agree with u about the iphone. Never used a trinity so can't comment there myself, love my att fuze modded and tweaked out!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Thresher:
We could have fixed US Health Care system with all the thought and typing put into this conjecture filled thread.

One person says there is horrible lag on the same exact device someone else says, NOPE NO LAG HERE.

There has not been one benchmark or real life comparison put on the table.

CLOSE THIS ****TY THREAD ALREADY and MOVE IT OUT OF THE FORUM THAT HAS A DESCRIPTION OF "Only meant for software development and software issues."

Maybe it is more conjecture but Why I hate my Iphone has nothing to do with software development. Frankly it is getting in the way of real conversations with people who for BETTER OR WORSE use WM and HTC.

CLOSE THIS THREAD ALREADY.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] addicus:
I have a 8525 so I can't comment on the TPro problems. what I can say is HTC gets a bad rap for the processor problems. Qualcomm built a top notch processor then crippled it with ****ty drivers. Then when HTC offered to work on the drivers Qualcomm refused to allow them (Kaiser/Fuze) for a few different reasons I won't get into. A lot of this stemmed from the fact Qualcomm was in major court battles for patent infringements and pretty much only focused on that. HTC got screwed because they already were in a non breakable contract and had to continue using what they were paying for. Sounds a lot like the OP.

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HTC sucks because they refuse to support their products. I noticed that with my Wizard and it truly soured me on them. They deserve to fail due to their customer service levels.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] crpercodani:
Yea it is sort of confusing how they list it on there site, I thought Iwould be able to get the 15/month data plan too.

I dont know what att is doing about a mms problem, but i do mms on my ipod touch with wifi. The way they setup copy+paste is pretty sweet,shoulda been there since the beginning but you could use the clippy app to fix it before the new os 3.0 update. I know that alot of the apps out are pointless but, and i know i said this before, if you take a look at all the useful ones you would be impressed, i use to think the same as you do about the apps until i got my ipod touch and looked into them, i used the redsn0w jailbreak and some other mods to allow cracked apps (appulo.us is a awesome site to get them). Cydia has all the unnaproved apps to fix any problems youve mentioned (or upgrade to 3.0 for free) and to customize the icons and change basically anything in the UI, if you wanna see how i have mine setup check this.There are alot of other themes that can change the setup of the UI also. 2 things that I hate abput iphone/ipod touch is non-removable battery and no sd slot.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] ngravatt:
hey, with your iphone, why dont you replace the battery with one the performs better.

how about you remove your sim card and put in your old ****ty phone when you go skiing.

how about you fix the iphone your self when it crashes and not take it to the apple store at midnight.

wait... you cant.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] The Jack of Clubs:
i hate these iphone rants that are popping up. the iphone is a good phone. it just has a different philosophy than wm phones. this is a site for diy bettering your htc devices. not a place to rant. nobody wants to hear it. lock request?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] crpercodani:
The sim card is easily removable. You are half right about the battery, but for like 30 bucks you can send it to a number of different sites that will upgrade it. And fixing it when it crashes is as simple as loading up itunes and hitting restore. That was simple.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Genjinaro:
Best Quote ever...Best Analogy ever. This should be in an effin article!!:cool:
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] addicus:
Ducklord - just admit you have IPhone envy. You should put your TPro up for sale and get an IP. To each his own. You must admit, yours seems slightly defected as it doesn't work nearly as fast as everyone elses. You may wanna get that checked out.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] P1Tater:
Well, I believe this thread has taken it's course and is slowly, better yet, QUICKLY, deteriorating.

THREAD CLOSED. :)
[Off-topic] poetryrocksalot:
Is HD radio reception based on an external antenna (elongated external hardware)?

Or is it the reception somewhat like the reception of cell phones (internal hardware)?
[Off-topic] bryceowen:
I assume by HD you are referring to the Touch HD (As opposed to HD digital radio).

If the HD's FM radio is at all like the Raphael's (and I have no reason do doubt it), then the reception is totally dependent upon a headset/audio-out cable to act as an antenna. The HTC FM radio app won't even let you open the tuner without a headset plugged in (even though you can output the audio to the loudspeaker).

I saw a radio app on freewarepocketpc.net that worked with my Fuze, despite the lack of headset, however:

a) It didn't produce any audio, despite claiming to have a fairly strong signal.

b) It replaced one of the system fonts with some LCD font that was kinda annoying.

As far as HD digital radio, the tuner in my Fuze seems to be a normal analog FM tuner (with an RDS decoder).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Unit ZER0:
I took the liberty of taking a tool a lot of us use, and making it both legible, and easy to use. I got a copy of the pagepool editor from the forums here, and changed all the captions and buttons to English, as well as compiling a list of as many ROM's as I could find for it to work on. See Below:

0x Data for the following ROM's: (UPDATED: 7/14/09)

Dell X51v A17/R01

Dell X51v WM6 A01

Dell X51v WM6 A03

Dell X51v WM6.1 A06 (Makuu)

Dell X51v WM6.1 A08 (Makuu)

Dell X51v WM6.1 A09 (Makuu)

Dell X51v WM6.1 A06 (LennySh)

Dell X51v WM6.1 A07 (LennySh)

Dell X51v WM6.1 A08 (LennySh)

Dell X51v WM6.1 A09 (LennySh)

Dell X51v WM6.1 L10 (LennySh)

Dell X51v WM6.1 L11 (LennySh)

Dell X51v WM6.5 L12 (LennySh)

Dell X51v WM6.5 L14 (LennySh)

Dell X51v WM6.1 A01 (Dynamite)

Dell X51v WM6.1 A02 (Dynamite)

Dell X51v WM6.1 A05 (Football)

Dell X51v WM6.1 A06 (Football)

Dell X51v WM6.1 A07 (Football)

Dell X51v WM6.1 A08 (Football)

Dell X51v WM6.5 A06 WWE (Dynamite) -> 0x002793B6

Dell X51v WM6.5 PRO A10 5A14 WWE (Makuu) -> 0x002839EE

Dell X50v WM6 A01

Dell X50v WM6 A02 RTM

Dell X50v WM6 A03 Beta

PagePool sizes you can set these ROM's to:

0 Mb

1 Mb

2 Mb

3 Mb

3.2 Mb

4 Mb

4.8 Mb

5 Mb

6 Mb

7 Mb

7.2 Mb

8 Mb

8.4 Mb

9 Mb

12 Mb

16 Mb

24 Mb

32 Mb

Instructions are included in the attached ZIP.

Enjoy!:D

UPDATED 1-16-10
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] savior02:
will that work for touch pro cdma?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Unit ZER0:
The editor only works on the 0x data of the ROMs listed in the .cfg file in the zip. If it's not on the list above, you can't edit it. As I find the 0x data on more ROM's I will add them to the .cfg file, and post the updated version.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jclampy:
Thanks but, maybe an error??

Hi Unit ZER0,

Cheers for your contributions to the community; ie: Your TCPMP MasterCodecPacks and this english PPoolEditior. :cool:

I think there maybe an error though. Shouldn't "Dell X51v WM6.5 L14 (LennySh)" have 0x data of 0x002A69EE

Your tool showed 0MB PP default for above ROM, which is incorrect. :o

LennySh has set a 5MB PP. Therefore if you change to 0x002A69EE it will show 5MB.

I will add some more 0x data's for other ROMs soon.

Dan.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jclampy:
Some new codes

Here is 0x data for;

Dell X51v WM6.5 A06 WWE (Dynamite) -> 0x002793B6

Dell X51v WM6.5 PRO A10 5A14 WWE (Makuu) -> 0x002839EE

Cheers,

Dan.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jclampy:
Error found.

Here is an error I have found.

1. I open Dynamite A02 ROM into PagePool Editor.

2. I change pagepool to 2MB

3. Select generate CRC

4. Run the pagepool changes.

Now if I re-open the changed ROM file or even exit and reload the PagePool Editor before re-opening the changed ROM file I get an error.

I try to select the Dynamite A02 ROM from selection box and I get a error window come up but I can't understand because in foreign language to me.

This happens even if I modified the pagepool to 2MB manually in hex editor instead too.

So, I think problem is with your PagePool Editor reading 2MB pagepool ROMs.

It saves the 'changing to 2MB' pagepool fine, you just can't re-open the file to change it any further after.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Unit ZER0:
Thanks...

Thanks for the info, been away from the game for a while, but I will post an updated version soon.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Unit ZER0:
Reply to jclampy

You may be right about that... I have never even attempted to run my device with a 2MB pagepool, but thanks for pointing that out. Don't know if any other user reported similar problems, though. If anyone has, please let me know.
[General Topics] poetryrocksalot:
Hey there is text at the bottom that scrolls on S2U2...is there anyway to hide this text? I don't need the banner as I know A_C makes S2U2 for windows mobile.
[General Topics] dwizzy130:
It's there because people were taking his app and selling it in "iPhone packages" online. Besides, it's built in to the exe so you'd have to edit it yourself.

dwizzy130
[General Topics] khaytsus:
Go ahead and ask AC in his own thread if you can remove the small piece of branding his has in his free application which only appears for the first 10s the first time you see the lock after it starts up and never again until iLock starts again.

Let us know what he says. Send him a donation while you're at it.
[General Topics] poetryrocksalot:
Hmmmm, thanks this information is good enough for me.
[General Topics] shaunym:
Well said....
[General Topics] :
I would like a paid version to remove it xD :D
[General Topics] @rj*n:
i like it rather stayin there..just like a sig reminds me of the hard-work done by AC for all of us and tht too for free! All praises to AC for his hard-work :)

(just my point of view..not all may share the same tho)
[General Topics] Bodisson:
Hehe...

It's not ad or banner, it's copyright notification added due to already mentioned events which almost caused A_C to stop developing his applications.

So, we all supported A_C in putting it there. If majority of XDA users can live with that, I hope you can too... ;)
[General Topics] MACkjam:
AMEN to that bro...I love A_C's work so he deserves acknowledgement in his own app.
[General Topics] PhantomDj:
As others said, it's there for a reason. Other than that, the animation scrolls only ONCE and it disappears until you restart iLock.exe

Normally, iLock.exe restarts only when you soft reset your device, or when you make changes on the S2U2 configuration. If you don't change your configuration often, then you should see the scrolling text only after each soft reset, the first 5-10 seconds. Then it's gone... :)
[General Topics] JanSchotsmans:
If it was a logo or something else that didn't screw up the look, I would have no problem having the copyright notice.

But the simple fact its a disgusting scrolling text makes it so that I will not install S2U2 on my phone again until there is an option to get rid of it.

I don't even understand how someone can make an app that looks so good to just screw it up by putting a scrolling text like that in there!

Have you no pride sir?
[General Topics] greenskeeper805:
If you don't like it then use someone else's software.
[General Topics] 66mustang:
What a bizzarre (i.e. wrong) point of view. S2U2 is the best WM application available and one copyright notification is something I'm happy to see. I'd be happy to see it every time. Why does it cause you so much offence?
[General Topics] dwizzy130:
No kidding! And it's only there for ten seconds!

dwizzy130
[General Topics] JanSchotsmans:
S2U2 is beauty, ruined by a fake set of tits.

Come on, guys, read what I said instead of going into some fanboyish idiotic protective mode.

How the hell can someone make such a beautiful app and come up with nothing better then a nasty scrolling text for any purpose.
[General Topics] LordK:
i could agree to you if this text would be scrolling thru the sreen over and over again, but acutally it scrolls thru screen only one time. (or do you change your config / restart your device every ten minutes?)

Also it's a good info about what version you have installed currently ;)
[General Topics] scilor:
This Scroll texts isn't nice but, I only restart my phone one's a week so....

And it IS possible to remove it, just by little debugging and patching ;) but I won't do it and not even show you how, because this would just make our beloved A_C angry and I do not want him to stop developing
[General Topics] dj_doeboy:
I can't believe this is even considered an issue. I personally have been using S2U2 since my days with an Apache (back when it was still S2U) and it has never been a problem to see the name of a hard working developer on the most useful WM app ever. As was mentioned before if you don't like it then just don't use it, there is no need for whining. This thread has really shown who is here to support the community and who is just here to feed off the work of some real talented people.
[General Topics] dwizzy130:
Very well said.

dwizzy130
[General Topics] jez83uk:
I've just read this thread for the first time, and I had to go and restart my phone to work out what was being discussed. I've been using s2u and s2u2 for years, and never even noticed it.

It's not worth getting pissy over, and certainly not a reason to avoid such a fantastic piece of software.