yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Major A:
Well it's quite the same trick, but not really the same solution. In fact, as far as you don't open the start menu, you don't waste mem. The benefit won't be as wide as with a wvga device, but quite noticeable. Replacing the start menu can juste be a manilla tab mod, and disable the start button, not an overhaul of the start menu itself.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ronald_delgeano:
V19 vs CHT1.8.5

Hi friends,

when i installed cht 1.8.5 the image viewer in sense tab is becoming all black ( i can't see the picture ). What should i do ?

thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] programatix:
Try delete 675e2983_manila from \Windows.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] venomcorp:
another question.How i can change left soft buton.I want to be action screen not camera?I tried from advance confic.but there not have this option.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] obaz:
programatix

very nice and stable rom. manilla sense still little slow and yourtube app can`t login - but this is definitely the best sense 2.5 rom I`ve tried
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ronald_delgeano:
Use diamond tweaks application and set your needs from there

thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ronald_delgeano:
thanks it works
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bobzero:
Had a problem with my phone not ringing out loud today, despite the volume being set to half way (both events and ringer, not using single volume control).

When I checked, the phone had changed my ringtone from "Ring-Innovation" to to "Ring01-WindowsPhone". When I pressed the play button, it played both ringtones out loud.

To double check, I called my phone again and the caller ID came up, but the phone didn't ring. I reset the ring tone back to Innovation, soft-reset and it went back to ringing out loud.

I also had this problem with the last few ROMs, and in those cases it would say some message about the ring tone file being corrupted. Didn't say that this time.

Only thing I can think of that MAY have some correlation to this issue was that about 10-15 minutes before the problem, I enabled Internet time syncing.

Which leads me to the second problem I have; my phone is a full 5 minutes behind the true time and I can't figure out how to sync it back. The Internet time sync does not do anything.

Anyone know how I can sync the system time to an atomic clock
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] venomcorp:
One stable rom and fast.I instal all i need and now is realy good.I like it.Have some little bugs but nothing so big.Good work...keep on.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] jitu:
Another great work, programatix. Thanks.

bobzero, I had this trouble before but with this ROM,it is fine till now and it's been a week.

BTW, Is there any registry tweaks to make Sense Music tab the default player? When I click play in my headset, its opening WMP! It was not like that in previous versions.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ronald_delgeano:
Titanium Edition

Hellow my exquisiters :)

i want to know if i disable sense will it becoming titanium edition ?

if No then

go to nextQuestion

else

nevermind :)

end if

NextQuestion :

Which one should i download to have titanium editions ?

thanks

Ronald
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] jitu:
Is there any tweaks to make my Sense tab play music when when I hit play button in my bluetooth headset (HBH-DS200)? Now, WMP is openend when I do that. In other ROMs till 4.18 it was music tab. I didn't try this in 4.19
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Marcos_91:
Menu->settings->home- disable sense, enable windows default

Any hope of updating sense 2.1?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bobzero:
Minor UI issue:

when you are in landscape and try to save a number, there is some mis-alignment
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Major A:
Does anybody experienced some lockups with GoogleMaps (GPS location enabled) and Opera launched at the same time ?

Many RAM left during the tasks, but the device stops responding during navigation. It occured sometimes with 4.19 too, but not so often.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bobzero:
Silent ringtone issue happened again today. I noticed my screen turn on but there was no ring. After that call I tried calling my phone and the ringtone had changed to "Ring01-WindowsPhone". Haven't made any changes to my phone for a while, so this seems to just occur at random.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] denivan:
Thanks

This is the first time I flashed a cooked Rom to my HTC Touch Pro. I guess I just based my decision about which rom to use on the look of the screenshots :)

I've used it for the past day, and after setting everything up I must say that I'm really pleased with...haven't ran into any issues yet (fingers crossed !).

Thanks for all the hard work !
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bobzero:
Ronald, I can't find the option in diamond tweaks which would let me configure the soft keys. I want to change the "Camera" soft key to task manager (I have camera set to long press on the PTT button).

Also, anyone know how to disable whatever is causing the screen to turn off automatically in call? It seems to turn off at inopportune moments like when I an entering a voice mail password, or switching to speaker phone, or looking up a contact while in call.

Thanks guys.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] StevePritchard:
You might want to try "Touch In Call Screen Tweak" (see my sig.)

Cheers,

Steve.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bobzero:
Steve, will your program conflict with Lumos (auto backlight adjustment) program?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] StevePritchard:
I've no idea, so all I can say is "it shouldn't". TICST simply turns the screen on and off during a call - it doesn't touch it any other time (in fact, it's not even running unless you are making a call).

Cheers,

Steve.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bobzero:
Does programatix already include TICST in the ROM? Because it seems the screen already does automatically turn off during a call (and not just via the default screen off timer).
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] StevePritchard:
No, TICST isn't included, but I think nearly all ROMS tend to turn the screen off during a call, it's just that TICST will take control of this and switch it back on for you based on the orientation of the phone (and a bunch of other factors).

Cheers,

Steve.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bobzero:
In case anyone was wondering, the rilphone.dll being used in this ROM is version 5.11 from the radio 1.14.25.35.

Thanks to programatix for clearing that up.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] denivan:
Hi, I'm loving this ROM (had been running the stock rom before), but could you elaborate on this please ? I'm missing the "old" dropdown taskmanager and am looking for a fast way to switch between running apps....
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Major A:
Just map the Long press send key with Task Manager. Pretty fast to do the trick without any additional resident app.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] denivan:
Dutch input language ?

I've been fighting with this, put I can't find out how to install a dutch language pack for the xt9 / ezinput.

I found somewhere a registry fix on this forum, and now I can choose "dutch" in ezinput menu, but when I type it doesn't show anything :( So the phone or compact qwerty keyboard works only in english :(

Can someone please help ?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Torakiki83:
In fact, it doesn't. I have them both installed, and no issue whatsoever!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Major A:
Programatix, do you intend to refresh Exquisite with few recent updates like Sense 2019, some packages refreshed and 2168x branch, or hang the dev for a break for some time ?

It seems that WM 6.5 releases are globally slowing down, and Sense might not see major releases in the future considering HTC's future devices plans. So it's fairly understanbable that something is getting to be loosened around VGA WM devices in a near future.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bobzero:
Found another small bug, probably related to the other "save to people" bug with new numbers and text messages.

When you have a number in your call history that isn't in your contact list and you select it, on the "details" tab, clicking the save button doesn't do anything.

Then on the message tab, selecting menu and "save to people" doesn't do anything.

Also on "call History (All)" tab, selecting menu, "save to people" doesn't do anything.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bobzero:
Hey guys, I hope it doesn't seem like I'm complaining about the ROM, when I bring up issues I find, because I love the ROM, and I just want to help make it the best it can be.

1) That said, I've been noticing that sometimes when a text message comes in, the notification sound does not go off until I bring the phone out of sleep, at which point the notification sound is heard. So there's been a few times where my phone was sitting beside me in standby and I don't realize I have a message until sometime later. When the message comes in, the LEDs in the center button light up, but not always the notification sound.

2) One more general issue, the old problem with opera not opening up after google maps is resolved, but I'm getting something similar happening with a different program. If my phone hasn't been restarted for a while and I try to open up iGO.exe it will hang like Opera did in the previous version. Rebooting fixes it.

#2 doesn't bother me as much as #1, anyone have idea about it?

Thank you
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Major A:
I noticed globally the same issue than you in your use case #2, with sometimes a device lockup, that needs a HW reset.

For case #1, do you notice the rolling light wheel when you've received a message, or is it just the sound notification ??
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bobzero:
I always notice the rolling light wheel when a message comes in, but sometimes no sound, until I turn on the screen.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] jitu:
I too face the same issue. When I switch on the screen, it sounds. But for the email, everything works fine
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bobzero:
Fix for ezInput bold font finally figured out and released here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=811106
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Major A:
I noticed it several times too now. As I felt 4.20 release suffers some flaws (this one is small but can be annoying), I switched back to 4.18 with good ol'2016 and no more lockups and hipcups when several apps stay launched. I don't really know if it's build related or Sense / packages related, but I really feel the Raph more "silky smooth" with this release than with latest after all. Hopefully, Programatix doesn't apply the policy of "newest is better, delete the past !".
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bobzero:
Does anyone use HTC Streaming Media? I never used it before until recently when I was trying to play movie trailers from the IMDB App: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=619359 (which is a good app by the way)

When ever I attempt to play a stream, I get "Failed to connect". This happens on HSPA and WIFI connections. In the Streaming Media Options, I tried every network option "My ISP", "The internet", "Work", ect. No change.

Just wondering if anyone has successfully played a stream with this program in exquisite 4.20?

EDIT:

Also tried the Captain's newer version of streaming media, but same issue:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7789472&postcount=1628
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bobzero:
Minor issue found:

1) When in landscape, goto mail inbox, open an email, scroll up and click on the "To" button. The resulting screen is not adapted to landscape.

Cheers.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] zlsking:
Thanks for the new ROM.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] 272489711:
it seems not bad thanks:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bobzero:
i seem to have lost the ability to use in call recorder. the option to start recording just isn't there any more.

maybe i"m going senile, but i'm pretty sure i had the option after a fresh flash can anyone please confirm that the option is/isn't there in 4.20.

thank you.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bobzero:
My phone jumped back twice this morning, so it ended up being an extra hour behind DST. Strange!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bobzero:
It's almost been 2 months now since I flashed 4.20, and it's been a great ROM, probably the best I've had. Also one of the longest amounts of time since I have hard-rest or flashed a new ROM.

That said, WM 6.5x starts doing some weird things after not hard-resetting for 2 months. My push email through activesync hotmail stopped working, and doesn't want to start again since about 1 month ago, but it still updates every few hours or so (even though that's not what it's set to do). Also, my RSS Hub stopped automatically updating itself, and refuses all attempts to fix this as of about 1 week ago. Also my In call recording option mysteriously vanished at some point!

Was holding out for a new ROM release, but I suppose I'll do a hard-reset pretty soon, and hopefully clear these things up.

Programmatix has been really quiet on the forums lately, hope he's doing ok.

Cheers folks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Major A:
I encountered this behaviour with Sense 2018 and few bugs (sometimes a huge battery droping without any obvious reasons), and I jumped back to 4.18 23569 rom for good. That's my favourite ;)

Well, I guess Programatix is focusing on IRL projects, and probably needs some rest after so much projects managed at the same time. No farewell so far, so still hopes to see the oven replugged !
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bobzero:
battery life has been really good for me on 4.20, especially since my push email stopped working.

If I use my phone minimally (voice, text data) throughout the day, I'll still have 75-85% battery after being unplugged for 12-15 hours. FYI, I have my weather set to update every 15 minutes, but I also LUMOS and keep my backlight setting low.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tarmizizain:
oven is heating up..awesome!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Major A:
Hell yeah !
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] StevePritchard:
I'm excited at the prospect of another Exquisite ROM. I've flashed NRG's ROM recently, and although there's lots of styling stuff to make it look pretty (which I can happily live without), there are some aspects that I'm not as keen on (the keyboard for one, and the .Net Framework implementation seems very flaky, and keeps crashing), and I've had some general stability problems.

However, it does seem rock solid with regards to the TomTom/Sprite/Opera issue that I've seen in the recent Exquisite ROMs. This did get better in 4.20 (I think it was introduced in 4.18?), but still hasn't gone away completely. It would be great if 4.22 could address that problem.

Cheers,

Steve.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Major A:
For the TomTom / Opera crash, I did not encoutered it with 4.18 23569 build, but yes, it plaggued the 4.18+ releases.

As 4.22 is out, it's time to see if it's build related ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] programatix:
Hi,

Sorry for the lack of update. Regarding the Opera and large apps problem, it's not truly solved as I still can't figure out the problem. The only workaround I have now is to convert all modules to files, which slowed down loading time a little. However by doing so, I get more free RAM.

Anyway 4.22 is up and I barely able to fix the problems stated in post #2 only.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Major A:
Thanks a lot, and don't be sorry for the updates ;) Since most releases are pretty stables so far, it's also a flasha'Olic behaviour that consumes us to test new stuff ;)

Very happy to see you back !! Greets !!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tarmizizain:
great to have you back chef..definitely gonna try the ROM. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tarmizizain:
alright..just finish dowload the ROM..the default page pool is 8mb. like previous of exquisite ROM i manually set to 32mb. how about you guys? for the latest ROM how many mb is best for rom speed and performance?

thanks..
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] fxdadbrowser:
After a long time..... d/l ing now.......

Thanx. Feedbacks to follow...:D

OOooooopz........ corrupted rar file. tried to repair it....same error.......

???
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Kameirus:
yep im getting the same thing

tried to repair it twice and nothing
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Major A:
Same problem for me with winrar 3.93.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tarmizizain:
same here..corrupted rar file when extracting.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] programatix:
Weird, the recovery record is included. I'll upload again.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Kameirus:
cool thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Kameirus:
just curious if its been reuploaded yet
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bobzero:
as of 20 minutes ago, no. I tried to repair, but even after repair still gave CRC error.

by the way,

anyone know of an easy way to backup Wifi passwords?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sb.oddworld:
Hi programatix, thanks for the new ROM. Looking forward to the re-upload, tried the existing one and its not working as alrady said.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] programatix:
Hi,

I reuploaded it at http://www.easy-share.com/1912960532/ExquisiteV4.22.28244.Sense2.5.rar
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Kameirus:
cool thanks im anxious to try this out to see if the modded dialers i use work on it

because they dont on 23145 or 23138 but do on 23683 and 23133

its weird lol

im really hoping they will work on this one
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bobzero:
Thank you!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sb.oddworld:
Thank you very much, greatly appriciated.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tarmizizain:
dammit!

2.15 a.m. here, guess no sleep for me today..definitely wanna try the freshly baked ROM..
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] StevePritchard:
This version seems to unpack just fine - thanks.

Cheers,

Steve.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bobzero:
oh no, no twitter tab!

can this be added in? or needs to be cooked?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] programatix:
Ops, sorry. Missed a registry value,

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Manila]

"Manila://twitter.page.hidden"=dword:0
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Kameirus:
awesome but weird lol

the modded dialers i use work on this build

im really confused as to why they dont work on some of the other builds

grrs i cant get the callhistory tab to install ..any clues how to
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bobzero:
Thank you for the quick fix! :D

Wondering, is this the newer Manila_Twitter_2_5_20172330 or the same one from the previous ROMs?

Also, I found some landscape cosmetic issues with 2019, guess I should direct those issues towards abrasive, unless you guys are working on it together?

By the way, is it just me or is the in-call recording option not there?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] venomcorp:
What is a bugs in this new rom version?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] axiopolis:
dialer broken

The dialer is broken:(:(:(:(

Please fix that....
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Major A:
What do you mean by broken ? Just freshly flashed and made 2 phone calls like always.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] programatix:
Twitter is from 2012. I read that the 2017 version has some problem. I however never use it, so I simply use 2012.

For 2019 port, I took abrasive's version and add some fixes on my own. I can't say much of the port because it is actually a mixture of everyone's work. Kisja first release a VGA port though nobody know where he get it from. Some says he took someone else's work and some say it is his work. No matter what, he is the catalyst of VGA port. If it is not for his release, Amarullz would not have started porting 2012 as he based his port on the one released by Kisja. I in turn port 2014, 2016 and 2018 based on Amarullz's port (plus some others... can't remember the name but it's the fullscreen music landscape). Any other new features introduced after 2012 are my work. Then Abrasive uses my work for his 2019 port. I'm not sure how much work he put on it but I'm glad that he did. If he didn't, we wouldn't have 2019 ported to VGA. Anyway I found out the truth on why most who work on porting Manila/Sense to VGA ended up leaving the porting/cooking scene (xbox, kimi, amarullz, and etc) but I'm not going to say much. If anyone of you want to know, you can start by porting a version and you'll understand. Gosh... what am I babbling about... :)

Back to the current issue. I'm very sorry for the In Call Recording issue. I really mess it up. It is missing a registry value,

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\PHONE]

"EnableICR"=dword:00000001
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] venomcorp:
U want to say the sence - 2.1, 2.5 is not made for VGA???Its not compatible or what?Because for now i not see notstock bugfree rom.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tarmizizain:
sense 2.1 and 2.5 are made for wvga and not vga.you got issues with sense,go directly report them in sense porting thread..in fact there's no bug free ROM.even stock ROM got some bugs and need hotfix.right?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Major A:
I'm pretty glad with 2019. I activated the flip clock regs to disable those features, and I get a smooth experience, like 2016 gave it to me.

The "crash test scenario" succeeded flawlessly till now : TomTom 7, Opera 9.7 and Google Maps altogether. So, I guess you found somewhat a good way to organize memory management.

For those who need it, I already uploaded the correct archive in my Mediafire space. I can mirror somewhere else if needed.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] venomcorp:
what is the rillphone in new rom?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bobzero:
probably the same rilphone as last rom, which is the same as the radio in my signature.

pleas don't apologize programatix! thank you the quick fix once again, icr is working .

interesting about the history of vga porting, i supppose the reason that people only do 1 port is becuase of the amount of requests and pestering from everyone afterwards.

no new bugs found so far in the new rom!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] revanmj:
I have found some issues - spacing in Quick Links seems to be broken a little bit (Screen) and there is a problem with screen align wizard, which restarts every time it should save settings and close.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] fxdadbrowser:
Even after applying the fix and restarting, no twitter tab........???? ( did manual edit....all good now)

Another issue... when run he task manager / arcswitch - phone freezes most of the time ... only soft reset helps....
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bobzero:
Did you use these ones from OP or something else?

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Manila]
"DisableMinuteFlip"=dword:0 ;0 to enable minute flip 1 to disable minute flip
"DisableDoubleFlip"=dword:1 ;0 to enable hour and minute flip 1 to disable hour and minute flip

Are you using BG4All mod? just wondering how you got your background in there.

I don't have this issue, I don't use arkswitch, I just assign regular task manage to long press center key. Works very well for me. I will post my keyboard config backup.

Edit:

Here is my keyboard config file, it can restored via the keyboard config program which is cooked into the ROM. I have the Fuze version of the Touch Pro, so I have an extra button "PTT", if you don't have this button just delete that entry.

NAVI_ACTION ("Center key") long press = task manager

PTT 1 tap = calculator

PTT 2 tap = flashlight (Need to install Torch button separately see below)

PTT 3 tap = Voice Command (need to install VC, see below)

PTT long press = camera

These ones are left at default

Navi_back

RSHIFT

L****

Torch Button found here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=581382

Voice Command found here (Thanks to Pyrorob):

http://www.4shared.com/dir/26121525/ec349190/CABS.html
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Major A:
Yep, those ones.