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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
Yes, it's because of Titanium, not JMLToday - but there's a little workaround:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=553145 - you will find some answers inside.

I still hope that Microsoft will expand these Limit to Final of WinMo 6.5...

And I've overseen one question:

I don't have the time unfortunately, to make a special tutorial for it. Because I also have to do an example - and in the HowTo from abvoe (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=553145) you will also find some of the things you have to do. It's sometimes a little bit indifferent, if you make a new Page or a new Plugin.

It's only necessary to know how to create a new Plugin at all - and that's already explained in xda-devs.

The only step above is to write Scripts, which should be called by JMLToday-notification (and I told it here with the example of Bluetooth) - and in this Script you could read all Registry-Keys from JMLToday, which you need.

JMLToday is so the "Trigger" for your Plugin - it catches the notifications from Windows - and assign this notification with a script in your plugin - and there you can handle this notification - and there's no performance loss like you would do it on your own (e.g. with a 24/7-Mortscript, which uses 10-40% of your Processor).

And also you can then use the Registry-Keys of JMLToday - especially these, which you need for your Plugin. And JMLToday has already updated them, so they are current. Easy way to get a nice Plugin - especially with additional use of JMLPanex and the JMLGoto-Functionality.

If you explain, which SubPlugin you want to make - and you are unsure about something - only ask - then I can have a look, too. ok?

Greetz

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
OK - JMHL is a litle bit busy - and so because of so much wishes as preview - JMLToday with TICS - so JMLToday 5.4 can be installed in EACH Theme (Bliss, NeoTitanium,...)

JMHL will add it later as alternative download to Post #1 I think so

Greetz

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mikemullin6:
Outlook email vs Yahoo email

I really like the look of JMLToday but the email icon brings up Outlook email which does NOT automatically access my Yahoo email account like the normal Cemail panel does. Is there any setting I can change to have this link go directly to Yahoo email instead of Outlook email?

thx
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] syrguy1969:
I did something very similar to mine using gmail. I opened the JMLToday.pnx file and changed this line:

EmailPNG=%WINDOWS%\tmail.exe;-service "ActiveSync"

to this:

EmailPNG=%WINDOWS%\tmail.exe;-service "Gmail"

So maybe changing ActiveSync to Yahoo or however it is labeled in your inbox will open your Yahoo mail for you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] claus1953:
Thanks Micha, it is working now. Btw i had to revert back to JMLPanex version 1, as because of the caching in version 2, when switching themes the registered plugins did not work anymore in Panex.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] claus1953:
Yes that works, you only have to take care to put your mail service exactly as you named it when configuring.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
mmh - JMLPanex refresh the Cache, when the Name or the Date of the .cpr-File has changed.

Could you please write it to the Panex-thread (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=552373) that you have this problem and also how you change it (e.g. which files and registry keys are changed? )

Cheers

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] adwinp:
BUG:

JMLToday causes a MASSIVE battery drain.

I've tested and confirmed it in a variety of setups/oems/xips

arch: Diamond

happens on: 5.4, some of the later 5.3+
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JMHL:
@adwinp : I think (with Micha) it's JMLAction.exe which is in background process. (not terminated). JMLToday is invoked only when there is a system notification.

Do you confirm ?

I have rewriting JMLAction, i send it to you via PM when it's ok.

A++
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] adwinp:
The problem is with JMLToday too.

I recooked a ROM without JMLAction, and though this decreased the battery drain, it was still substantial.

Don't remember this happening with 5.3c.

A.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JMHL:
and are you test without JMLToday ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] motisu:
I confirm this. I don't even have to uninstall JMLToday, just disabling it in Titanium drops the battery usage significantly.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JMHL:
@adwinp, @motisu : can you test with previous version and give me a return of experience ? Thanks ? (I'm not enougth time -> bug also with JMLPanex .... new JMLLauncher, next version of JMLToday ..... a lot of work ...)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
@motisu: have you already tested it without JMLaction.exe?

I know - and it seems that it's not on all devices (WinMo-Builds?) that jmlaction.exe isn't terminated after calling the context menu. And then I saw this battery drain, too.

With the new jmlaction.exe there's no more battery drain to see - works all fine on my device.

JMLToday has no permanently running processes on the device - it's only triggered by calling from Window-Notification queue. Then it changes the keys and tries to run associated scripts to the notifications - and then it's terminated. And this process is terminated correct (confirm? Do you see in Task-Manager a running process from JMLToday?)

I had more battery drainage as I used S2U2, because of its memory consumption and a time before with CComm, because of it's 24/7-Mortscript.

So - we must have a look - if nothing of this above is the cause - what can it be?

Is something wrong with WinMo-Notication-queue of some WinMo-Builds? Or: which scripts are associated from you with notifications, Scheduler and Panex - can this associated scripts be a problem?

Could you make a screenshot of your Taskmanger, where we could see all running processes and their memory consumption?

Could you also try to switch off the automatic weather update, too, and have a look, if this could be a problem?

Thanx for your feedback - and for your further help to find the cause.

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JMHL:
Thanks Micha for your help.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] motisu:
OK, as per JMHL's request, I uninstalled 5.4 and reinstalled 5.3B and it appears that the battery drain problem is not in this build. Is there any way to disable JMLAction in 5.4? I am currently using CYB's skin and I really like it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
@JMHL: 'course :)

@adwinp: please don't oversee my additional question, to find it out, ok?

@moti

Yes - here is a Test for 5.4 - please uninstall JMLToday before - it will install it by TICS RC1, not ATPluginInstaller - so it's Theme/Skin-independent.

But I really need to know, which are the associated scripts and which are the running processes on your device afterwards.

JMLToday itself cannot cause this battery drain, if the JMLAction.exe is correct terminated.

Please try it and feedback (I hope it works - I cabbed it just right now for you :) )

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] motisu:
OK, DL'ed it and loaded it and configured it to use CYB's skin again.

How can I know which scripts and processes are running? I don't see in Task Manager any "JML???" processes and the only mortscript's that I can see are running are the ones that get started in my startup, (Cnitrogen, and Notifications).

Thanks, I'll get back to you ASAP.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
Thanx - ok - then I implicit know, that TICS runs fine :)

If you don't see a JML-Process - then there is no JML-Process - and that's absolutely ok so. Like I said - there shouldn't be any process.

Also no Mortscript from JMLToday all the Time.

Which mortscripts are running permanently on your system (names of it, not of the Plugin) ? They can cause a massive battery drain.

And perhaps on some WinMoBuilds like http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=568414

The bug is in my eyes was only in the jmlaction.exe - and in this download above, the process will be correct terminated - so I can't imagine any more possibilities for Battery drain.

Please have a look on your battery now - and also try it with disabling the Mortscripts in your Autostart (I think CNitrogen is no 24/7-Mortscript - but the other one? ) - and also have a look.

I hope with this corrected version, JMLToday runs fine for you know. Looking forward to your further feedback

Thanx

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] motisu:
Installed just fine and working- TICS works OK.

No JML process or mortscripts

Checkstatus.mscr and s2pcheck.mscr are the 2 that are started in my startup (sorry, not Cnitrogen. my mistake :o)

So far, things look very good. The massive drain seems to have gone. I'll keep this version and setup and report back in a few hours with more results.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
fine :)

but then you have 2 24/7-mortscrpits running,both causes a not very little battery drain:

checkstatus.mscr from ccomm looks avery often at minute for connection state to actualize the condensedPage. JmlTodayy provides the same function without any script and workable buttons-so you could deactivate checkstatus.mscr to save battery and processor usage.

s2p uses the first version to get workable buttons: it loooks permanently for color-codes in titanium.this is the old method,but is still used by older Plugins.

There will hopefully come updaates to use jmlpanex instead of it,because it's trigggered by pressing on Sliders and so there's no permanently running process = nno processor usage all the time.

all 24/7-mortscripts also causes some "funnny" efffects,e.g. strange accidently increasing of titanium-images.

perhaps bettter to use CNitrogen or CMusic or to ask developer of cs2p to use jmlpaanex instead of color-ccode checking.

please disable both scripts for your test,ok?

thank you very much

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] motisu:
Thanks for the info. After doing some research, neither script should be there. I stopped using Ccomm long ago, and the newest version doesn't even use this script. This must be leftover from a previous install that wasn't removed. As for the S2pcheck, I am indeed using an older version because I don't like the album art of the latest version. The newer version doesn't use a 24/7 script so if this is the price that I have to pay to get better battery life, I'll pay it gladly.

I'll dump the 2 scripts from startup and then report back.

Thanks for the help.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
Don't forget to terminate the scripts also - or softreset - only deleting from autostart would still cause that they are running further.

Also - if the Uninstallation of older version didn't workd properly, tell it to the Plugin Developer, so that he could integrate this deletion of old scripts in next version - that would be useful for the people, who are using this plugin

(and at the same time you can recommend him to change the installation to TICS, so that his Plugin can run in all Themes after installing it :) Would only take some minutes for him to change it)

Now I hope it works furtheron without drainage - thank you for the informations

(and sorry for the typos in former post - I was only short online with my Handy there).

Glad to help you a little bit - hope it has helped completely :)

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] motisu:
I plugged TICS to both of them, and I saw that at least both of them are planning on using TICS on there next version.:)

After a whole night being on, the battery drain was only about 3% so it seems that the problem was solved. Great work and thanks.:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
Fine - that's cool.

I've looked into the Thread, you wrote - perhaps I had an idea to get a workaround for the last 24/7-Mortscript of CS2P.

Thank you for your feedback - then it would be good, that everybody, who has problems with Battery drainage would use the "check"-Version of JMLToday5.4 : http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4683099&postcount=298

until JMHL will release 5.5 - where the new jmlaction.exe will be inside anyway.

@adwin: Please feedback, if it works for you, too.

If you extract the cab for your ROM - you will need "JMLAction.exe" and "JMLupdate.mscr" - and "TICS_Installer.exe" in your Directory (TICS_installer is also needed for changing Skins, not only for installing)

Please report any issues, too, ok?

Glad that it works now for you - many thanx, motisu!

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] motisu:
My pleasure:) I am not a developer, but I have literally almost 30 years of testing and debugging experience and any help that I can give in this, feel free to contact me.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reekotubbs:
The sub panel I am attempting to make is a sms panel that looks like this

Not necessarily the look, but functionality. The ability to scroll through your sms messages on the today screen.

I was able to create a new panel using Chome Editor v1.6, but I don't know how to code it.

Any help would be appreciated.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] adwinp:
I'll test the wip JMLToday a bit later.

1: I don't use JMLAction anymore anyways.

I've linked nearly everything I need to JMLPanex

Should I need to change ville/city, I call the script directly through a JMLPanex mapping, or in the registry

2: keyword: sanitize.

Use run + sleep + exit instead of runwait

3: Use EXIT in/at the end of all your scripts !!!

4: I find JMLToday.mscr redundant. I don't use it.

I call JMLToday -update via an autorun entry.

5: Why 2 nearly identical scripts? (JMLUpdate & JMLMeteo)...

6: Minimize the use of mortscript where possible.

Port to C code.

7: We are all aware of the CHome image zooming bug, which forces us to use redrawtoday/chomerefresh

It'd be good to call redrawtoday or better yet, integrate this in JMLToday.exe (so we don't use mortscript), at every first launch of JMLtoday (for example, after a soft reset, or after re-enabling Titanium in Today plugins).

It would be a good fix for the zoom issue.

That's that for now.

;]
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] claus1953:
I added a new page to JMLToday (Pics page), and after this i lost my first clocks background BG0, i have totally 4 pages, today, weather, sms and pics. Could this be due to too much items in this plugin? Is there a limit for items per plugin or is it only a limit per page (20 per page)?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JMHL:
@claus1953 : limit per plugin !

@adwinp : thanks for your return.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kane159:
a white theme :D

and white tsk :)

qvga only for now....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pogar:
HI

I've just installed this plugin on my Touch HD and I have two questions now:

1. The plugin looks strange on my screen (see attached file). How can I fix it?

2. What do I need to have BT and Wifi status enabled in this plugin?

Kind regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] svprm:
I think all working properly.

For BT:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4622556&postcount=307

Try my theme.

Note:BT only and not tested except QVGA Device.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pogar:
hmm.....

I would like to have a screen like in the first post: http://www.jmlacou.com/wpJML/files/PocketPC/Titanium/JMLToday/JMLTodayV5.4.png . As you can see bluetooth and wifi are present on original screenshots...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TheRem:
@kane159... cute buttons! you gave me an idea. thanks! :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JMHL:
@pogar : choose the JMLTodayV5.4 skin. (via contextual menu)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pogar:
I'm getting "Skin Error" while enabling the JMLTodayV5.4 skin...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] claus1953:
I definitely had to disable the 4th page again, it was too much for one plugin and messed my Titanium up (was not loading correctly). Sometimes it worked but some items got disabled and sometimes TiTanium did not load. Now back to 3 pages and without problems.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JMHL:
@pogar : Ah, sorry. It's a VGA skin. Use PLG converter to convert it to your resolution.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pogar:
It worked!! Thank you
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] previn:
Is there a way to make JMLToday as Default Titanium Plugin instead of CClock?

Yes-You need CHome-Editor

1. Switch JMLToday to the Top-most position and save.

2. Then copy the string “{F0A1B246-6E64-40cd-8E15-347D29FF6F18}” (without the quotes!) to HKLM/Software/Microsoft/CHome to "HomePluginGuid" (please save the value which is inside before - it's the GUID of CClock) . You could do this step also with CHome-Editor

3. Restart Titanium

Be careful - this game doesn't work with all Titanium Plugins... but it works with JMLToday (I made it, too )

I have done the above but if I move JML today lower in order then the top plugin will always get selected. Is there anyway to selct JML as default even if it is not top?

I am using the skin to replicate current titanium but with a moving analog clock, it looks much better if in the middle rather than on top.

thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
It's only possible if the Plugin over JMLToday areStandard-Windows-Plugins with another GUID.

@kane: The Theme looks great!

@claus: Perhaps could help you this example to overcome the Limit:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=553145

@motisu: Thank you - very kind! I'm looking forward to talk with you about testing. Thanx!

@adwin: Not only in PM - also here: Thanx for the hints!

JMLUpdate & JMLMeteo are the same in 5.4-cab ! :) I needed it only to get jmlaction from 5.5 to work with 5.4 for the fast-cab-Download.In 5.5 it will be not the same.

Just make the Scripts you need and then use the Cab-Framework for JMLToday-Skins

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4198295&postcount=7

Look into how it works - then you only have to associate the Scripts to SMS-Notification. And give the Plugin a new NAME - so replace "JMLToday" with the NAme of your SMS-Subpanel (perhaps mark it with "jml" - so that each user knows, that he needs JMLToday)

I think I will make an example... but I want to release TICS at first and also one new Plugin and one new JMLToday-Skin, which has to be developed :)

Then I wil make it - just ask here for help, if it's too complicated with the Cab-Framework to make a new Plugin, oo. It's easy for Skins, but a little bit more to do for new Plugin.

Also read TICS-Thread - because you need a Titanium-Installer for a Plugin:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=564884

This will do TICS (it's the further development of ATPluginInstaller)

Greets Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] claus1953:
In fact i added a new page 4 for pictures, an exact copy of the page 3 sms, and i only changed the registry and added page 4 to the pnx file. But as i had to add an image (PICTURES in registry) to show the current picture in the page, this made the first clockbackground to disappear, which is the first image in the cpr (BGA). The clock appeared back on the screen only after the new added picture was deleted again.

I tried to make the picture show thrue the already existing IconA, but this does not work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] previn:
It's only possible if the Plugin over JMLToday areStandard-Windows-Plugins with another GUID.

Hi,

I have 2 plugins with different guids above it but seems to make no difference. Also if I reactivate the standard clock that becomes default even though I have specified the guid of the jml clock in chome.

thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kane159:
hellow there, I have some picture for animations

but with a little play......seems like only background can have animations :\

is there any way to let the numbers have animations too??????
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] amenda72:
hungarian translation

Hi all,

here the hungarian translation for JMLToday.

Please, embedd. Thnx.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JMHL:
@kane159 : give me your pictures to implement/test this feature for next version. Thus, you can submit your animation at all!

@amanda : Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pogar:
HI

I back to JMLToday theme due of lack battery percentage information on JMLToday5.4 theme

However now the plugin screen gets corrupted when the device is rotated. Is this expected?

Kind regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kane159:
here you are my friend
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pogar:
Thank you Kane159, but what should I do with files in the attachment?

Kind regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] adwinp:
Glad I could be of some help.

;]

A.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] claus1953:
They are not for you but for JML.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] svprm:
I'm going to create a new theme with new style.

I want to add one more page to JMLToday.

How to add one more page to JMLToday?

When i restart my PPC,All the images in JMLToday became big and scatter.

To solve this,Again i set the same theme.(Now it all in correct place and size)

How to solve this?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
Here you go: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=553145 (especially Post #4 - but better to read some important things before)

Greetings

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] svprm:
Thanks MichelDiamond.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reekotubbs:
For scripting can I use .cs files (C source), that is what the sms message box I posted is created using?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
You can use each language, if it's executable - like you want. Notifications are also to able to specify parameters, if needed.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reekotubbs:
Micha,

I looked at the cab-framework and I need help making the panel. It only explains how to make skins and icons, but not panels.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
Yes - I know - therefore I said "quite the same" - you should know, how to make a Titanium Plugin - but as soon as I have a little time - I will make such a framework.

But it's not very difficult against the cab-framework - only you have to consider this: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3601164&postcount=2

so: Set GUID, define Page, PluginLabel and so on.

All the other things - no difference if it's an additional Page or a new Plugin.

I will need some time for an example - but we all made our Plugins because of this summary above - and each Plugin which is available is an example for a single Plugin.

You can show me your workstate meanwhile or can ask me, if you have somewhere a problem to understand the functionalities (I did the same before, as I looked how to make a Plugin :) )

Greetz

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reekotubbs:
I made a new Plugin Panel with Chome Editor v1.6, will this work with JMLToday?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
Yes - CHome Editor only set these things, you have read in the link, I mentioned.

You have only to .cab these changes to registry.

The Skin (.plg) File can be installed with TICS - and then it's fine :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cyclops hammer:
Im having problems, IM using Tpc ultimate 6.5 Pro rom (23049.4.0.0TPC) and it comes with this preinstalled, but I cant change any of the skins.

It will ask me if I want to change them and I click yes and then it shows the wait icon and then the message box saying end or w/e pops up then nothing , the skins wont change..

Ive tried different mort scrips (currently 4.2) Ive tried installing the latest JML with the same outcome... Is there a problem , a step Im missing ? Also with the newest version of JML it shows the " Flip Clock " the numbers arnt aligned correctly
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] svprm:
Uninstall all and Install it Again.

First Install MortScript 4.2

Then Install JMLToday5.4.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chriscsh:
Hi

is it possible to set 2 [Run at] (or something like) in the JMLToday.ini
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cyclops hammer:
Same exact results... Still wont apply Skins and the numbers are still miss aligned
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] svprm:
Tried with already installed skin or other?

If already installed skin,It won't work because it is not QVGA.

Try some QVGA Skin here:http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=540116