yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hdaackda:
First bug I've noticed..

1) The dial/talk doesnt work.. If I dial a number and press either the hardware "talk" key or the green talk button, nothing happens.. in fact, the dialer screen is cleared (as if the dialer is restarted) and the number I just wrote erased! Anyone else having the same issue? Any clues how to fix it?

2) A minor issue but OK on the bottom right does not usually 'close' programs.. it just minimizes most of the programs... not sure if this is a bug or intentional

3) I have disabled "vibration" on Input and it is disabled.. however, on the TF3D tabs, if i click somewhere (the tab or msg etc), my HTC Fuze still vibrates...

thanks..
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] enahsak:
NATF 5.5B - X button doesn't close programs

Love the new ROM, but the the x-button doesn't close the progams (anymore) is there a fix for this.

Thx 4 all ur great work & ROMS. Looking forward to UR ROM with the new windows build. Thx again

HTC Fuze

NATF 5.5B

8gb microsd

win xp pro
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] enahsak:
Love the new ROM, but the the x-button doesn't close the progams (anymore) is there a fix for this.

Thx 4 all ur great work & ROMS. Looking forward to UR ROM with the new windows build. Thx again

HTC Fuze

NATF 5/5B

8gb microsd

win xp pro
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] charleslinz:
I am having the same frustration with the dialer. What I have seen on this thread is the fix is to disable the dailer skin (via advanced config / reg edit) and use the smaller default dialer.

Another post suggested re-installing the tachi-dialer cab. That might have just been to remove the scroll bar though.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] wildace408:
I posted a work around for the dialer a few posts up from yours. Basically what I found works is to disable the dialer completely and just use the default dialer. You can do thise with Advanced Config or thru the registry.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Jdilla:
Yes, all of these are issues are present. Number one has been discussed to death here already. Number two is solvable by pressing the send button to bring up the taskmanager, you can kill programs that way. And number three doesnt bother me, I think its kinda cool and wouldnt mind seeing it in future versions. I cant see any negative result from having it in the ROM.

@-haze- I cant see why it wont come up. I guess some issues arent there across the board for everyone.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] frankjr927:
reinstall the dialer with your own cab file, thats what i did and now the "talk" button works everytime. As for the vibration you have to go into settings then system and click on touch response and disable it if u dont want it to vibrate everytime u touch the screen
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] frankjr927:
i reinstalled the dialer not for the scrollbar issue but for the talk button issue and it worked for me.. its worth a shot
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] frankjr927:
it does work
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] frankjr927:
task manager help

is there a way to make the task manager visible rather than invisible? is there a regedit to fix this? i see the time instead of the task manager but the task manager still works when i click on the clock.. i just rather see the task manager rather than the clock
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ANDROiD KiLLSWiTCH:
Natf 6.5... Yes!

Coming from Da_G WM6.5 and I like this ROM and its differences, will probably switch back and forth till I can decide what I like better, if that is even possible. :p

Is the weather widget in here, (the ROM) somewhere? I cant find it, but that is my only complaint after a few hours working with this. I actually used weather a lot.

I hope that a kitchen will come out soon, and if NATF can cook in TF3D2.5 into this ROM, well, I might just http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] AkumaMax:
All I have to say is thank you. It great to finally have a fully stable 6.5 ROM! Not one problem at all!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] pbratton:
I keep getting an unsucessful install when I try to load titanium weather...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Magelumbus:
Stability compared to NATF 4.7?

Hey NATF,

I am a huge fan of your 4.7 ROM. I tried a bunch of 6.5 ROMs and found most of them frustrating with respect to overall stability (Rhodium manilla, Tachi dialer, incompatibility with 6.5 etc.) Your 4.7 ROM is just great. It works...all the time.

I was wondering if you could give us your impressions of how you would gauge the user experience of the 5.1 ROM against 4.7 just so we know how you feel about them both.

Also, do you plan to produce a TF3D1 version of the 5 series ROM?

Thanks for all your hard work. One day you will have to tell us the story around the broken leg:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] entropy42:
You need to disable Titanium/Chome as your today. To do this go to Settings -> Home -> Items and choose anything beside "Windows Default". After the install is done, re-enable "Windows Default".
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bfspider:
dang speedy - just downloaded this 12 hours ago and ya already got a new one up!

i'll let ya know how things roll!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Tofferbear:
Ping! Any thoughts on this?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] -haze-:
Hmm... this may just be my first rom I flash with my Fuze. I should hopefully be getting it within the next week or so.

Hope to see all you suckers (NATF, RZA, tater, Dutty) soon.

Keep up the good work NATF.

Go Giants! :p
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
Before the end of the 1st week of August, since I'll be on vacation next week, I plan to have quite a few varities available.

CHome Lite (Fuze + Touch Pro)

CHome Standard (Fuze + Touch Pro)

TF3D Standard (Fuze + Touch Pro)

TF3D2 Standard (Fuze + Touch Pro)

I will also release my modified kitchen around that time so everyone can customize even further.

HTC GPS Tool is supposed to be in Settings, but I will also add a shortcut under Navigation.

I didn't include any widgets yet, but the supporting files are there. Just download and install.

Thank you! :)

I immediately install the CAB after the phone resets from Initial Configuration. No problems here.

One of the reasons it took me so long to release v5.0 was because I have come a long way from Tilt v1.0, and I did not want to release anything that would require immediate patching just to run.

Look up a bit for my answer on TF3D1.

There will be 1 or 2 more small-medium releases before Saturday morning.

I do see that behavior, but I never thought anything of it.

Since it's still the offseason, and we beat you @Home last year, I'll let this slide. :p
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] innoman:
Issues after flashing... my phone seems tired

It seems that most aren't having any real issues so I am not sure what is going on with my phone. I flashed to 5.1, sync'd using myphone from microsoft and started using the device and pretty much everything seems to be going slow. The phone appears to lock up (temporarily) when I try to view text messages, I haven't been able to download emails from gmail (i verified the settings) and all kinds of sluggishness throughout the menus, etc... Is anyone else having similar issues?

Also, when I press the Home button, it goes to the start menu and when I press the PTT button, it goes to Communications instead of letting me use voice commands... Can I change this?

--EDIT--

After a closer look, it seems the sluggishness might be related to wifi and the inability to download emails was because it was trying to connect through isp.cingular APN. Oddly, it was able to connect and download email when 3G was disabled without changing anything else. I'm going to play around with things a little more and see if I can't get a better understanding of what is going on.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] wildace408:
First off...thank you NATF for another great rom. I was wondering if you or anyone else has seen the problem where if you use the htc black box to select the person to send a txt message to it will not send to the correct number. I remember this as a bug in a previous version of your 6.1 roms and found you can use the same work around. That is selecting using the windows drop down list instead of htc's black box on the bottom. If I am the only one then I might just try a hard reset or reflash. Thanks again man.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] entropy42:
Activesync keeps popping up

Twice today I've gone to do something on my phone and it was on the activesync status screen. The first time I thought I might have left it there after, but the 2nd time I know I had specifically closed it. Using 5.0 (will upgrade to 5.1 later tonight)

Any one else using ActiveSync?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rcbama:
messaging problem

NATF,

Great ROM! :) I'm using 5.0. This is a huge step up already over the other 6.5 ROM's. I'm having an issue with e-mail. If i create a new e-mail and then start typing a name into the address field, I get both the windows? autocomplete drop down menu and the T9 bar at the bottom. If I select an e-mail using the T9 bar, the phone locks up and requires a soft reset. Turning off autocomplete in the settings menu doesn't change anything. Any suggestions? I don't know if this problem is related to the messaging problem in the next post or not. thanks,

RC
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] innoman:
I have noticed some issues with this as well. I think I like the drop-down list that appears more though.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] johnmc618:
Just curious, I used NATF for 6.1, and under the "programs" tab for TF3D, there was an option to click "All Programs" and it listed all programs in alphabetical order. Is there a similar way with this new version to see all of the programs? I feel like when I look through the start menu, it doesn't show everything. (for example, last version had an "advanced config" program)

Thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ANDROiD KiLLSWiTCH:
Bubble menu gone

The soft menu key in most instances is not the new bubble finger friendly one, but more like 6.1s soft menu, tho sometimes the font is a little bigger. Is anyone getting this? I messed with the CHome editor a bit, but that is it.

5.1 looks beautiful, and I look foreword to many months of getting everything just right and then having a new version show up :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Tofferbear:
Hmmm, I've been trying this on the 5.1 release and I keep getting an unsuccessful install. Any other thoughts?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] wildace408:
If I am not mistaken that function was part of tf3d which is not yet included on NATF's 6.5 roms as of yet. A couple of posts earlier he stated he might release a version with tf3d installed. That should have this funtion back in it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] johnmc618:
Oh I see.

Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mindfrost82:
There are two styles available. Choose the other style and you'll get the WM6.5 menus back.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ANDROiD KiLLSWiTCH:
Full review of V5.5B (Fuze)(Manila)

This is what I have noticed from my use, hope this helps a bit NATF.

The Good- GPS is good. I used CoPiolet and compared it to my tomtom and it was spot on.

FAST Fast fast. The TF3D is slick and does not get held up except a min after a soft reset.

I used [VGA]Manila 2.1 Panoramic Background (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=547941) and except for the empty space because of the shrunken task bar, it was great. TF3D stayed fast, and the panning was flawless.

The Bad- Dialer.

The HTC WiFi hotspot did not work. It showed me as connected and 3G on, but I was not able to pull data threw my phone for my laptop or my Zune.

I liked the HTC start menu, and I hope that stays as a signature function of your ROM, but it did not always stay in the corner.

Sometimes there would be a double scroll bar like when you go to remove program. One inside the other.

What I would like- I like the panoramic background, and even if you don't use a panoramic photo/.cab, the minimal transparent look is nice. Others may have preferences, and we can always change this ourselves, but you have to pick one for the base, and this is my pick.

Along the same lines I like having the top and bottom menu bars clear with translucent buttons.

I know tf3d2.5 is not ported yet, but if the calendar function is available and can be used with 2.1 that would be sweet.

I like the two start soft keys, (funny that MS put up such a stink about having a windows hard key and then moved the soft one right down next to it :p). I'm a minimalist so I don't need the word start at the top, maybe the HTC logo would be cool.

So Santa, If I can has, I may be able to hold off getting the TP2 and wait for a WM7 device. :D

Fine work NATF, there are a few prime chefs who put up the goods, and you are most def one of them.

Ps. I wanted to give you $$$ but I got this "We cannot process this transaction because there is a problem with the PayPal email address supplied by the seller. Please contact the seller to resolve the problem..."
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Ovrclck:
NATF, I flash to the 5.5b Standard, can you post a cab for just the tachi dialer?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
The new pop up menu is a feature of WM6.5. I can only assume that by the time WM6.5 comes out officially, there will be a workaround developed for this.

1 - discussed many times. I will resolve this in 5.6 by switching the dialer to a CAB install.

2 - also discussed. the HTC Task Manager has some compatibility issues with newer OS builds. The fix involves switching to another Task Manager, or someone getting their hands on an HTC-customized WM6.5 ROM.

3 - TF3D has separate vibration features.

The task manager can be made visible, but the icon overlays with the clock.

That's strange. Everything was working OK on Thursday, and my email address for PayPal hasn't changed.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hdaackda:
thanks!! I have disabled the skin from Advance Config 3.3 and that has solved the dialer problem till now... will wait for ur update :)

Btw, how to disable the Manilla vibration?? using tf3d config?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] frankjr927:
also i noticed the remove program bug ,, where theres two scroll bars for some reason ... and the scrolll bar in dialer , when is 5.6 being released ?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tinpanalley:
Can the Touch Pro Standard ROM be used on an AT&T Fuze? I prefer the original WM 6.5 background. How close is your ROM to the cleanest WM6.5 ROM. I won't be using Manila.

Thanks! Great work!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Ovrclck:
It will work just fine, the att rom is pre configured for us att users. If you want cleanest..it would be the lite version.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tinpanalley:
Thanks for the quick answer...

By cleanest, I mean closest to the actual Windows designed ROM that has been floating around out there.

ALso, I'm on AT&T as well but the reason I asked is because it seems that your Touch Pro ROM has the background I've seen in official Windows 6.5 images. What makes your AT&T ROM specifically configured for AT&T?

Thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bedobela:
WOW.

This new Windows Mobile style is fantastic. Poor developers...they will have to change the whole manila tf 3D to fit this. Because of my lack of coding knowledge I don't know how hard it will be but I wish good luck to everyone...

Thanks NATF for this great ROM but unfortunately I can't use it yet because I like TF 3D... played around a few days with it though just out of curiosity and I like everything but the huge text size in some cases and small text in other cases. If they make some text huge they should make all text huge. Plus I like the small text on the WM devices, I hope they don't change that...

thanks for this new ROM
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bfspider:
hmm

worked for me when i bought him an old rasputin imperial stout! ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hdaackda:
Nopes. even after removing the skin (advance conf..), the phone dialer still gives problems... will wait for the seperate cab or 5.6..
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ANDROiD KiLLSWiTCH:
I am almost certain that there is a cab out there already, just Bing it and you will find what you are looking for I'm sure. :p

I will try a different browser now, but again last night in Chrome I got the error. I just used paypal for another transaction so I know that is working. :confused:

NATF did make a TF3D version, so you could use it and get all the goodness of tf3d2.1. As for the big text, that is the trend. The reason why all text is not big is because everything is in development right now. One of the most frustrating things for me is the unlock slider keeps jumping to the top, then the bottom. I like the bottom.

I think that the only things different with the ATT version is the network configuration is already set up for att. Also the keyboard is different, so if you did go with the pro, you would need to find a cab that switches it back to ATTs layout. In the full version there are extra programs included in both versions I suspect. All chefs cook there ROMs with there flavors. I don't know if there is going to be any bland version out there, though NATF is quite clean compared to a lot of others. Why do you want it so "clean"? If you go here you can find the latest strait up version of WM, the catch? You need to cook it yourself. :eek:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
"Talk" button & TF3D Tab Vibration

I saw a few posts about these things, so I thought I'd offer a few possible solutions from posts I found in the Tachi Phone Canvas & old XBMod Manila Port threads:

"Talk" Button -

This was caused by a particular registry entry. The solution was found by btxakita, as posted below:

The first reg key indicated above is what the value should be for the "Talk" button and Send hardware key to work properly. The cab posted should just update that key (but I haven't tested it personally).

If that's too much for you, you can try my Tachi Dialer cab, found at this link: HTC_PhoneCanvas_Tachi_4_10_34656_1.cab

TF3D Tab Vibration -

For those who want to disable the Tab Vibration, try updating the registry as per this post from Krzysiec:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] peterson65:
is there anywhere to still download version 5.3 ? that one seemed to allways work perfect for me.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hitekdude:
thanks

:Dlove the rom as always keep up the good work bro! thank you. you da man
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Sisqo:
i think it's the best 6.5 rom to date, best speed ever:) congratulations natf, keep on the good work
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Alibaba0101:
start menu

Any way to move this back to the upper right hand corner? I'm using this rom with spb mobile shell and can't use the bar on the bottom. I searched but didn't find anything.

thanks!

Ali Baba
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bfspider:
Not in the latest 6.5 builds. This is how it is going to be from here on out.

Maybe try and find a ROM with an earlier 230XX build.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Ovrclck:
I just installed tachi black dialer

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3921257&postcount=3

works great!! besides for the scroll bar. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tinpanalley:
I like to use just WinMo. I prefer a clean fast running phone than bells and whistles. Also, there are very few programs I've seen that I care much to use. When I first got my Fuze I flashed every ROM onto it and it was always the same: a glitch here, a program that needed tweaks there, a menu that didn't work, a button that crashed the system, and most themes I wasn't into anyway.

So, that's all. I guess I just wanna have whatever 6.5 will look like when it's officially on a phone with the option for TF3D.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] aztecjester:
Woohoo!

This is my first WinMo 6.5 ROM and its awesome! Good job sir! I will be waiting for future updates!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Alibaba0101:
Installed it on teh standard rom and it did not show up correctly (in addition to the scroll bar). The keys were no where to be found.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bfspider:
there should be a fix for the scroll bar in the dialer thread... its a patched DLL file that you copy onto the phone.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tinpanalley:
Hello all,

Just finished flashing the standard 5.5b. Can you tell me where my custom ringtones need to go so they show up as options?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Sisqo:
cannot play .mp4 file with htc album. it says "The source filter for this file could not be loaded."

on other roms i've played this video and it worked..
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Ovrclck:
installed fine for me.

Thanks man, I didn't catch that.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tinpanalley:
Email on AT&T - error synching

I'm not getting my emails and receiving 'error synchronizing' messages with AT&T. This is using the Standard 5.5b Fuze ROM. Anyone ever get that before? SMS, phone, internet are fine, but email doesn't connect. My settings are all correct. I've also done some reading around the forum and none of the solutions seem to work for me. Any ideas?

Thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] alonso_fernando77:
Unable to Flash the ROm

Hi I just recently upgraded my att stock ROM (Update provided by HTC) Now I would like to try your WM6.5 ROM however when i try to upgrade , It gives me an error and enters the recovery mode can you please help me?..
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] StevePritchard:
Not that I'm on AT&T, but this sometimes happens to me and I find that one of the following will fix it (assuming it has worked at some point, and has now stopped working). One thing to be aware of is you will lose all the eMails in your Inbox and Sent Items, but the way I've got the eMail set up means that those in my Inbox get downloaded again once it's working anyway:

1. Clear the account (Menu | Tools | Clear "xxxxx"). This works 95% of the time.

2. Delete the account completely, and recreate it (Menu | Tools | Options... Then tap and hold the account, and select "Delete"). This fixes it the other 5% of the time.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Steve.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] evilc:
What i like about this ROM:

* Very fast and stable.

* Good organisation of Start Menu

* Total Commander set to not launch file on screen tap, makes it impossible to accidentally install something.

* Included task manager (\Windows\taskmgr.exe) is the best I have ever used. What is it?

What i don't like:

* Font is too big, esp in contacts screen.

* Back button in start menu closes menu instead of going back to previous menu.

* Volume Up and down buttons do not seem to control volume, they pop up the thingy at the top.

* QuickGPS does not seem to download ephemeris properly (Am in UK, maybe downloading US ephemeris data?) - GPS lock times long.

Suggested improvements:

* Better key config app. The Raph Keyboard configuration tool is getting mature now, recommend you include that. Maybe even default mappings - I map Longpress of home to Start menu and longpress of back to taskmgr.

* Using scroll wheel (ie rotating finger ipod-like on the TP multitouch wheel thing) does not scroll through lists. I used a NRG ROM that allowed this recently and really loved it. missing it in this ROM. I forget what apps the NRG ROM supported it in, but it was definately either Total Commander or the "File Explorer".
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tinpanalley:
Neither of these worked. My email was working fine on the stock AT&T Fuze ROM. I installed this ROM, set up my email last nigth and it's never worked.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] StevePritchard:
If it's never worked, then those actions won't help. Your problem is most likely related to connection settings and proxies, etc.

Does it work if you are connected to the internet via ActiveSync and your PC, or via a Wifi connection?

Cheers,

Steve.