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[Windows Mobile Software Development] joe_coolish:
Yay! Great to see news of development :) I have WinMo 6.5.3 and for me, google-style is the best style :)

But, Like I said before, if you want help developing, I am ready and willing!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] amt16:
nice app :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] orb3000:
Nice to see you are still around!

I wrote an article of your app but afraid developing won´t continue.

Hope you can keep working on this!

We WM users really need an app like this.

I´m on WM6.5.3

Cheers,
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ktemkin:
For those of you who have been wondering where the hell I've been, I'll summarize:

I first went to university for Computer Engineering, a special field of Electrical Engineering which has focus on the development of embedded systems not unlike the HTC phones. I knew, when I started, that I had a natural proclivity for Computer Science- but I found the hardware side really interesting, too.

A few months ago, I decided that, in addition to the education I already had, I wanted a formal education in Computer Science. So, in addition to my normal work, I decided to take most of the core CS curricula at once. I wound up with about 110 hours of work a week. I had absolute no time to program for myself, or for any of you.

To make things worse, the apartment I moved to by the university campus didn't have service with T-mobile; which meant I either needed to switch to Verizon, or get a land-line. I wound up with Big Red, and, given how much I was already paying for classes, I couldn't really justify paying the $30 a month for a data plan. With Verizon, that meant no precious Touch Pro.

The good news is that things have come along quite a bit since back then. I'm pretty much done with the CS curriculum. I currently work for the university, and I plan on starting my master's degree in Computer Engineering.

I'm no longer working insane amounts; which is good- I should be able to get back to this. (Plus, had I continued working that much, my fiancée would have killed me.) In other good news, I just bought a Droid Eris, so I'm back in the smartphone game. I would have preferred a HD2, but I can only afford so much.

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Because I'll have an android device just as soon as the USPS decides my package is worth delivering, I've been considering developing an AJAX-style in-browser app. That'd allow me to use the app as I develop it, instead of just when I get a chance on my old, disconnected Raphael, and it could easily be packaged as a 6.5 widget.

The web-app seems to be the only real cross-platform implementation that works well. You'd be able to use the app to access XDA from your beautiful HTC device, no matter if it runs Windows Mobile or Android. You'd also be able to use the app from that iPhone or iPod touch you hope nobody discovers you have. Hell, if I'm careful with my JavaScript, you might even be able to use XDA from your wife's crackberry, or that stupid feature-phone with that nice $9.99 unlimited internet plan.

How's that sound?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ryuu55:
sounds good, looking forward to see it.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mike6200:
not working?

This is no longer working on my tp2. Says trying to connect to server and never connects.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] krook6023:
Holy crap...Kyle...welcome back! Good see you you are alive...I was.really thinking sokething bad might have happened to you.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] janneman22:
not bad :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ktemkin:
It seems like everything's moved around on XDA-developers, but the fix is as simple as sending a single cookie to the server, to get the old theme back.

Caught between work, attempting to root the newer Droid Eris bootloader, and this, so things are going to be slow for a little while- hopefully I'll finalize this exploit soon, and get my task list down to two.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] gwon:
Just incase anyone hasn't tried this: set you theme in your USERCP on XDA Devs back to the old one, launch XDAPP. Happy days.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] orb3000:
Looking forward to see more development on this great app!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mike2nl:
Oho, last nightly build from 7th September 2009.

Are there some news about the project, or it is asleep? I hope not, because this is what XDA nerds need.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] gwon:
The dev posted on the last page, making mention of a possible webapp style version.

He also mentioned releasing the current source, which would be pretty nice.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mike2nl:
Hi ktemkin,

this is good to know :).

I use the stock rom for wm 6.5 (signature).

Google-style is not bad, so far you don't use the google code about analysys :D.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] orb3000:
To OP, if you can´t continue this great work perhaps you may want to share your work with another developer who can continue.

WM users really need this app!!!

Thanks,
[Windows Mobile Software Development] JVH3:
If I'm not mistaken, xda-developers.com is just a word press site.

[correction]vbulletin[/correction

I did some googling, and there is a thing called word press web services that can be installed on the site.

It it were, consuming the webservices in an app would be a trivial task and an app could be made veery quickly. Dot net makes it extremely easy to consume webservices.

Otherwise the html needs to be parsed rather than having the content in an xml stream.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] orb3000:
Well, if you can go ahead with this app I´m sure a lot of members will be grateful:)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] JVH3:
Problem is that word press web services is not installed on the site.

I'm not going to write something that manually transforms HTML when any slight layout change would break it.

If you can convince the owner(s) to install word press web services, I could give it a try.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] joe_coolish:
There must be some kinds of services exposed, else how would the android app be so good?

Once I'm done with the FB app I'm working on, this would be a great next project. If I can get the backend data, would you be willing to write the app to display it?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] bons:
Not working

+1 Not working on my TP2 either. It says "Contacting Server", makes three attemps and then states: "XDApp seems to be having difficulty connecting ... "

I have a working internet connection allright.

Something we can do to make it work?

thnx in advance.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] orb3000:
So?

Nobody who will want to continue this project?

Androis has it´s own app and it´s newer, hope great WM Devs got interest on this!!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] joe_coolish:
Yeah, I'm interested in continuing the project. Thou I'm no great WM Dev :) I have 2 major apps on my plate (one of which is a Facebook app, which WM also desperately needs) and then I'm down for looking into this project.

If I'm not mistaken, I thought XDA was a vBulletin forum. There has to be some core services or atleast continuous HTML divs that allow for consumption or parsing. When I get some time, I'll take a look. Cuz this is what I need... A way to waste more time on this site from anywhere that I have service! Geez... Between ROM updates and application development, I'm surprized I still function in the "real world"
[Windows Mobile Software Development] JonnieLasVegas:
Just found this thread, & gotta say this would be a great app! I love the xda app for android. If we could get something like that for wm that would be sweet as pie!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ktemkin:
Thanks! Bounty updated.

To answer your questions:

1) Yes, it will support language files, so you won't have to do more than edit a text file to translate it.

2) It can do both server-side streamlining and on-phone rendering.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] jor3l:
oh cool, i have some ideas ^^.. show only the title (as a list) and show the info like pages, last comment, num of answers and that stuff when the user touchs (click-expand) also something like 'slide to read' :D ... and one more question, how the bounty works? would like to donate :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ktemkin:
I'm looking to get the core program out first; then I'll spend plenty of time improving the interface. I hope to release all of the controls I've developed for Kinetic Scrolling to the public so we can see more great touch-based applications.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ace10134:
Bounty works as such...

----Example----

And then the developer, Ktemin, will update the first post, adding your donation value to the "bounty". You don't have to pay anything upfront. It's just a promise. Once you're requests are met, and the program is finished, then you have to pay up though. Understand? Just reply again with ur donation amount, and Ktemin will update it all, thanks!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ktemkin:
'ktemkin' is short form of my name: Kyle Temkin, so just Kyle will do if you want to refer to me.

Almost have a feature preview completed for you guys to mess around with. Disabling features now as we speak so I'll know what subsystem any glitches apply to.

I'll post a password protected ZIP file here, and send the password out via e-mail/PM to people who requested to be included in the feature tests.

(ZIP files are hardly secure, but I'm not exactly afraid that someone's going to bruteforce their way into my feature preview.)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ace10134:
Okay, Kyle. Lol. My name's Andrew.

Sign me up as a tester! PM me, I suppose. Thanks! looking forward to testing!!!!!!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ktemkin:
Well, I was hoping to have it out tonight, but the stupid Windows Mobile emulator has decided to give me all kinds of connection troubles. As I'm too tired to debug the stupid emulator right now, I think I'll head to bed and get that feature preview out tomorrow.

The features I will be targeting in this feature test are mostly automatic DPI-scaling, kinetic scrolling, and XDA-developers login/session management.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] jor3l:
hehe thanks ace, 10$ if works :D

and add me to the list please :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Bijdehandje:
@Ktemkin

I would like to test the XDApp if that's possible.

Would love to play with this goodie :D so plase add mem to the list if testers.

Keep up the good work.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ktemkin:
First feature preview is up! See the third post in the thread. It pretty much just lets you log in and view the first page of a forum- I've disabled most of the other features so testers can concentrate on:

-Feel of kinetic scrolling, button clicking.

-Connectivity and speed, including server-side compression.

-Login- does it show your viewed posts correctly? Does your login work?

-DPI scaling- does it display correctly on your device? Especially on devices with weird screen sizes and shapes.

I'd really like to hear what you think (preferably here), especially if you find anything that looks, feels, or acts wrong. I've hidden the button that displays the toolbar and disabled gestures so you can't run into anything unimplemented.

Those of you who were chosen for the feature test will be receiving an e-mail/PM with the zip password soon.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ace10134:
Yayyy!!! Trying it out soon. This app will be cooked into my ROM when it goes final! And that's some fancy ZIP encryption, lol. You're too secure. But whatever, I'm on the list!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] greeneyemonstruo:
Looks great!

Everything listed worked great for me! Only 2 personal preference comments:

1. The scrolling seemed a bit sensitive to me or maybe it just scrolled too fast because my eyes couldn't keep up.

2. I logged in using the touchscreen keyboard and it covered the password box and pressing up and down just moved the cursor left and right. Plus when I logged in the keyboard remained on screen.

Only error I got was when I pressed the top bar but that is probably because it was disabled.

It looks great!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ktemkin:
Yeah, if you read the update on the first post you'll see that I had the kinetic scrolling sensitivity up really high as I was using the emulator.

I'll have to code to fix the SIP covering it- I'm assuming you have one of those incredibly huge diamond/rhodium keyboards at work?

As for the top bar, I'm not sure what's causing the error, as I don't have the app open, but I probably forgot to unbind an event that I removed for the feature test.

I'm really interested in how fast everything seems to load for you, and if you ever have any circumstances in which the program seems to get stuck 'loading forever'. Another tester mentioned this to me, but I haven't been able to confirm or reproduce the events.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] greeneyemonstruo:
Yes I do. :p Otherwise, my big thumbs would be getting me nowhere fast.

Load times were amazing compared to opera! On average, login was at about 5-6 seconds and browsing the forum ranged from 3-5 seconds! However, I was able to replicate the "loading forever" situation. When I tried to login while my phone was connected to my computer, it would hang on the login screen. After I minimized XDApp and brought it back up, I got this message: XDApp seems to be having difficulty connecting to XDA..... XDApp appeared to still be loading but I hit cancel and the program closed.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Bijdehandje:
@Ktemkin

I just can say.....WOW

Speed is good

Rendering seems good

Only issues which i could find are: (*= known issue)

*1 Scrolling speed is a bit to fast/sensitive. (i like fast and sensitive but this fast and senitive is a bit to much :D)

*2 When clicking the upper bar the app crashes

3 I could not read a post. when i tried to access a post it turned yellow and nothing happends after that. From that moment it seems really sluggish (slow) as if it crashes any minute or hangs. when i try to scroll down after that it goes really slow until i press the back button. After pressing the back button it works like it should be again.

Two things (personal)

Is it possible to build in a back button which can be pressed any time in stead of first scrooling all the way down to find a back button?

Maybe the look of the upper bar is prettyer when it's the 6.5 style (glass look)(just cosmetic for a later stadium)

Overall:

I like the speed

Login time takes only a second or 2 or 3 @ my device

loads really quick

rendering is good

The looks are great (I really like the blueisch look but that's just personal)

Overall overall :D A realy good job so far
[Windows Mobile Software Development] faria:
First all wow! Great piece work.

As mentioned by other testers the scrolling is a bit too happy.:D

I also had the " XDApp seems to be having difficulty connecting to XDA" message, but then i found out the reason was that i had another instance of the app already logged in.

By touching the top bar i also get this error;

[COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]XDApp6.exe[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]NullReferenceException[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]at XDApp6.view.list_ItemTapped(Object source, FingerTapArgs e)[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]at Scroller.KListControl.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs e)[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]at System.Windows.Forms.ContainerControl.WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]at System.Windows.Forms.Control._InternalWnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]at Microsoft.AGL.Forms.EVL.EnterMainLoop(IntPtr hwnMain)[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]at System.Windows.Forms.Application.Run(Form fm)[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR]
[FONT=Arial][SIZE=3][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]at XDApp6.Program.Main()[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

Another thing....

in the special boards there is no moderator forum, is this app limitation ? As a moderator this would be a must.

Future feature request;

Maybe we could have an option to select the forums we want to watch.

Thanks for your hard work, from the moderation team and the xda users.

Can’t wait for the next update!

Regards

Faria

Ps;

Test Device

HTC TOUCH PRO2 " RHODIUM"

STOCK WWE ROM
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ace10134:
I think that's already planned. You can look at his planned features list, it tells you how they're coming along. But I second that idea too, it's cool.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Bijdehandje:
@Ktemkin

Another two things...

Cannot find the CP (control panel) Seems like the same sort off issue that Faria was talking about. It just isn't there.

It seems i can not shut the XDApp down. It spins at the background and can only be killed with a task manager sort of program.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] faria:
yes that is correct.;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ktemkin:
@Bijdehandje:

The User CP hasn't been implemented yet, so that's why you can't find it. I've also disabled menus/toolbars, which had the 'exit' option.

You can't read a post because I've disabled that ability in this feature preview. My post-rending engine is incomplete as of yet.

@faria:

Touching the top bar is fixed. That was supposed to trigger something I'd removed from the Feature Preview as it wasn't finished. I just forgot to remove the trigger.

As for the Moderator forum, I don't know why that isn't showing up, as I can't see the Moderator forum to debug. I believe what's happening is that different formatting is causing the Regexp to miss the forum title.

Can you attach the source to what you see as the forum index when you log in? That would help me match my regexp to any unique formatting the Mod forum might have.

--

I have a bunch of modifications I'd like to make tonight and tomorrow, and then I'll release an updated feature preview that I hope will work better.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] JVH3:
Is the source code available for the android app?

If so, a port to dot net would probably be pretty easy. Post a link if it is.

If there are basic webservice calls that can be made, it should be a simple app to write.

Parsing the HTML of the site would be kind of pointless, since a small edit to the website could break the app.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] uncleswoop:
oh man, thats a great idea! why didnt anyone else think of that??

:rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] JonnieLasVegas:
Wow, uncleswoop at least you've proven there's still jackass kids on the web, or adults who act like jackass kids, lmao!

J, Not sure about the source code, but I can have my friend look into it, I'm such a noob I wouldn't know where to look. He's at least got some knowledge. I'll let you know what I find out.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] orb3000:
Any news on the developing of this app?

Android users have their own now and WM??

Hope this won´t stop, please post into this thread to inject life on it:)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Kaeron46:
Well.. Just my little contribution..

I've took a look at the Android app which is based on Tapatalk, a module server-side installed who allows the app to interact with forum database directly, so no problem of parsing the HTML code of the forum.

But Tapatalk doesn't seems to be interested in making a WM app.

I think that if we could take a look at the Tapatalk module it will be more easy to code a XDA App, but I don't know if it will be allowed by Tapatalk..

More info here

(I hope my English is clear enough..)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ferlanero:
Hope we can use this app in winmo early!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] uncleswoop:
love it when people try to act mature, then they add a "LMAO."

stating the obvious is also wonderful.

or... excuse me... its "sweet as pie".
[Windows Mobile Software Development] JonnieLasVegas:
Never said I was mature, just stating that you're obviously not, as well, lmao not LMAO, lol. But keep on telling yourself you are. Now go do the world a favor and jump into some oncoming traffic.....now that would be.....well sweet as pie, lmao.(didn't want to disappoint you, you dirty old uncle).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] uncleswoop:
ugh....

:rolleyes:

lets keep this forum clean for those who have legitimate questions on opinions.

"hey it would be cool if..." really starts off by saying "im 13 and i havnt looked around or anything but i want you guys to do this for me..... and explain it step by step when you do...."

hope you learned something jonnyboy.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Ev0luti0n_:
this! totally agree!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] pelycan:
its there a problem with the app from the first post ? steel connecting server ....and no conection....or my diamond suck ? by the way......is netframework required for the app ?

tnx guys
[Windows Mobile Software Development] DaveTheTytnIIGuy:
I basically have the same thing to say as everyone else, which is:

Scrolling is a tad too sensitive; the app can't seem to distinguish panning and scrolling from each other.

Touching the top bar crashes the application.

App is very fast.

Login seems to work fine for me, but there's really no indication of whether I'm actually logged in or not, since I still can't post, change options, or reply to PM's in this version.

Overall, I would say that this is very promising for a XDA-Developers mobile client. Thanks,

Dave
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ktemkin:
The primary way to tell if you're logged in would be to check to see if the appropriate threads are marked read. For example, check this thread on your PC, and then see if it's marked read on your device afterwards.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] faria:
check Pm.....
[Windows Mobile Software Development] jmckeejr:
I sort of like the icon in front of the posts, but I can certainly live without it. Someone had mentioned a back button easier to reach, would it be possible to have a hidden toolbar sort of like opera(I suppose it could be disabled for testing after reading the next quote)? I'm all for having more screen space, but I feel it would be more productive to have some easy navigation buttons somewhere whether they be hidden or invisible or just nice icons.

My feedback:

I havent really been able to test :( I logged in successfully this morning and was able to view the page, but something happened and my device started to move like molasses. I closed the app(at least to my knowledge) and went to work. Went to try again at lunch time but everytime I tried to open the shortcut I made or the .exe nothing happened. Gave up till a little while ago. The app does not show up on HTC's taskmanager, but after opening in DotFred's Taskmanager the XDApp opened as soon as taskmgr opened :confused: So I have been trying to log in again, but it keeps timing out on the can not connect screen. I havent tried on wifi yet, so not sure if its due to insufficient reception or what. After hitting retry it stays on the "difficulty connecting" until I open taskmanager and kill the process. After hitting cancel I get an error. Here is a small snippit of the error:

XDApp.exe
ArgumentNullException
Value can not be null
Parameter name: input

at
System.Text.RegularExpressions.Regex.Match(String Input)
at
System.Text.RegularExpressions.Regex.Match(String Input, String Pattern)

There's lots more, but if you dont need it I'm not going to post the whole thing. So I will continue to try and log in or at least view the page without logging in to test scrolling and whatever else I can. Thanks for all your work on this.