[G1 Android Development] cj chitwood:
I agree, wholeheartedly, one hundred percent! People should learn to help themselves. Google is truly an awesome tool if used to its extents... that being, all the ways one can customize a search to include e.g. only linux specific sites, or only return certain filetypes, or to selectively exclude results that contain certain terms... and these are only its most basic "advanced" uses.

I consider myself learned enough to use Google effectively. I usually find exactly what I'm looking for about 95% of the time. Lately, though, I've been finding a lot of difficulty, particularly when searching Android material. Maybe because it's new, maybe because it's so exciting for so many people, I don't know. But I do know this...

I've been trying in vain to catch up with this thread since I first discovered it only... what, two days ago? I set my default to 50 posts per page, so I now see 22 pages. I was on I think page 14 when I gave up and skipped to the end -- page 17 at the time. Unfortunately, this happens on nearly every thread that has any importance [to me] because what's important is usually popular, which typically means a lot of people get into the thread and submit their viewpoints. It's a normal thing for a forum, but Android is the first topic I've participated in where I've seen threads grow so large, especially so large so fast.

I'm sure you've seen before how people who "don't want to search" or "want to be spoonfed" their information complain about the "search overload" (maybe you've seen the commercials for "Bing", Microsoft's answer to this problem, which I've not tried yet). I agree, when people don't search and just flat out ask, they're only adding to the problem. At the same time, it's difficult to suggest to someone -- particularly a newbie to the topic -- to search, search, search, when there's so much extraneous stuff floating around.

I would recommend -- in all respect, of course -- that we not suggest to people to use search until we can better focus a thread onto its topic. I'm not even sure what this thread actually is about. I've got to say Cyanogen's latest mod, of course, but there's also a lot of swap info, and a lot of compcache info, and a lot of info on using adb... the list goes on. The thread seems to bounce around a little bit. It's difficult to follow the 4 or 5 main conversations, to say nothing of the little ones that come and go.

In my humble opinion, the compcache stuff should have its own thread, the swap stuff its own, etc. etc. with links to those threads in this one where applicable. At least then, it's easier to tune out the stuff I don't need or am not interested in.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I've been seeing a *LOT* of people in this forum, and a few others I frequent, telling people to use search instead of answering the questions. Don't get me wrong, they're right, absolutely, people should learn to search. Unfortunately, search isn't so powerful anymore. I frequently search for things that lead me to threads similar to (but smaller than ;) ) this one, and the thread overall has nothing to do with the topic I'm searching on, yet there are one or two posts in the thread with key words that relate to the topic but unfortunately provide zero help to me... so I then wind up asking a question...

...and getting told to use search.

I must now apologize, for I've posted completely off topic of this thread, but I feel the thread is so large now that this one post, though off topic, may still help overall. This thread is exactly a case in the point of this post. It's huge, and covers several topics which although related probably could be threads all in their own rights.

Now to end my post at least somewhat on topic: Cyanogen, thank you for the work you've done here. I first rooted to JF 1.41 or thereabouts and followed his roms up to about 1.51. I was confused by Haykuro's rom version numbers, and avoided them mostly, until I tried his Hero-on-G1, which I loved, except for its speed and stability (or lack thereof). It had a lot of features I liked, but was unstable on the G1, and way too slow.

I then decided to try your mod, and I'm glad I did. The work you've done is stable enough for me to use daily, even for my job, and the features I miss from Hero I can live without to have the rock solidity you've provided. Currently, I'm on CM 3.6.7.2, with a working Camera (haven't tried camcorder yet), working Exchange sync, and so far no force closes since doing a complete wipe (including SD cleanup) and full install of the ROM. I love the pimptastic recovery image. I wish I could donate some time to troubleshooting and hacking, but my skills are too slow in that area to be useful (especially on a thread so fast I can't keep up). So, I shall try to send you some beer sometime after payday!

Thanks again for all your hard work! It is very much appreciated!