yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch 3G General] azahidi:
That's how it should work actually. Either one, Wi-Fi or 3g/GPRS. But what phil is saying is that it also activates data connection (3G/GPRS) even when wi-fi is connected.

On my set, and in my network (not Orange but standard GSM).. this is how it works :

The moment I invoke any application that requires internet connection (weather update, activesync, opera, etc) Jade invokes data connection first (3G, GPRS, etc). Unless if I invoke Wi-Fi connection on first, then data connection is ignored, it will stay off.

So what I normally do is, whenever I want to use internet, I connect using wi-fi then browse the internet. If there is no available AP, then I turn off wi-fi and continue browsing , which is then connected using 3G/GPRS/EDGE?HSDPA
[Touch 3G General] MvBoe:
This is the way it normally works and should work under WindowsMobile. The Orange-ROM seems to be "manipulated" by the provider (?) not to work in this desirable way. All (or some?) Orange-ROM-Handsets seem to activate the data connection (3G/GPRS) every time ignoring the established Wi-Fi-connection. This rises the providers business volume.
[Touch 3G General] phil-w:
It would appear to be correct about orange having had the method of connection changed.

I have just found and installed a different RADIO.ROM to my Orange Touch 3G and now it appears to connect as required.

Still not 100pc happy but will post my observations later with the rom numbers if it helps anyone else out..

Phil-w
[Touch 3G General] 1knobby1:
Look on the HTC JADE reflashing on this site

Hi All,

There is no way around the Orange apps to enable WiFi, but I successfully reflashed the Roms in my Orange touch 3g yesterday.

Have a look here for the details on what to do:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=514406

Follow the instructions carefully, and I chose to install the Stock HTC ROM 1.40.721.2 from the ROM post.

Wifi is then free....

:o)
[Touch 3G General] phil-w:
Well I appear to have got around the Orange Unique problem.

I upgraded the Rom on my Orange UK Touch 3G to the Jademan SuperRom V3. That got rid of the Unique side of things but with no improvement with Wifi connectivity.

The connectivity problem with wifi still caused problems, the internet connection would NOT use wifi even if I disabled the GPRS / 3G data connection with "NoData" It just returned a message saying it had failed to connect.

I decided to find a new radio rom image which I managed to on this Jade forum. I flashed the new rom and tested the same connections again. This time the wifi connected via Wifi first and without any problem... It would appear that flashing the Jademan rom didn't update the radio as well, I needed to update the radio as well.

The clue may be in the radio rom version number,

Original orange 0.29.30.U23

New Radio rom 0.41.30.12

A assume that the U in the orange rom refers to "Unique", which now I have replaced it, it appears to have cured the wifi problem and it is working just as any other Non-Orange Jade / Touch 3G does....

I have not noticed any problems with any other radio related issues since the upgrade, GPS, 3G/GPRS etc all seem to be fine.

I do find that the phone does struggle to connect with some Dlink AP's though... It may be a problem with the Dlink more than the phone but I still need to do more tests on that.

May be that will help a few other people out there...

Phil-w
[Touch 3G General] eliseman:
Hi Phil,

I had exactly the same problem!

Started with an unlocked HTC Touch 3G with Orange customised ROM and then replaced it with the SuperROM. WiFi was unusable so (having read your post) I re-flashed with the standard ROM released from HTC and then re-flashed the SuperROM. This gave me the same Radio ROM that you show above however the WiFi problems seemed to be no better.

While I liked the idea of having the SuperROM I have gone back to the latest standard HTC ROM and all seems to be well.

John
[Touch 3G General] phil-w:
Hi John,

My wifi now seems fine except not liking Dlink AP's for some reason.

I don't even need to stop gprs data with NoData etc, if there is a wifi connection available that I have setup previously it will use that rather than GPRS..

I appear to have "de-Oranged" it !!!

What probs do you still have on your Touch 3G ??

Phil
[Touch 3G General] GasGasGreg:
Does anyone who has de-oranged or flashed a std. htc rom use UMA. I am on Orange UK with touch 3g & fed up with te wifi issues, however I suspect that you might loose the UMA "Unique" (Phone & SMS over wifi) facility which is very Orange dependant?
[Touch 3G General] DJHicks:
OI OI

think ive made my 1st discovery!!!!!

lol been messing with the fone all after noon having got it at lunch an i too was pissed about the wifi crap!!!

so far i have dumped my stock rom and gone throught hspl business! BUT HAVE NOT CHANGED THE STOCK ROM... its still Orange uk!

i'll go though what settings i changed... and am now connecting via wifi to the net through IE (opera seems to just open with a big ERROR at the top of the opening page)

so...

Start > Settings> Connections Tab > Connections > Advanced Tab > Select Networks change both to My ISP

then goto

Start > Settings> Connections Tab > Unique Manger > Advanced Settings > Network Adaptor > Change the top box to The Internet

like i say Opera doesnt seem to work but i never planned on using it tbh!!

IE is working fine!

hope it works for others....

still wondering if i should change the ROM? what are the advantages? Features?
[Touch 3G General] DJHicks:
hmmm not sure if my routers messed about or something...

but after about 45 mins i started to get a not connected error etc

so i changed both the MY ISP settings to My Work Network...

was checking some othere options but didnt change anything... and tried IE just to see and its working again!

so bit of trial n error but ive been on facebook most of the night with it lol
[Touch 3G General] rikkij:
Jade Wifi GPRS issue

Hi Phil,

Thanks for starting this thread, this is really very helpful for all Orange Touch 3G users (to get this irritating issue of GPRS resolved)

Could you please share the link on how to get Jademan SuperRom V3 (and instructions on how to upgrade ROM, Radio ROM or flashing the ROM)

Sorry if I am asking for very basic question.
[Touch 3G General] DJHicks:
yes i too would like more info on the radio rom install if poss?

thanks inadvance!!
[Touch 3G General] eliseman:
Hi Phil,

Well I think I did the same as you.... I flashed the latest official HTC ROM and then the Super ROM. After this the device seemed to happily connect to my access point. But trying to use a browser just seemed to result in the pages not getting loaded (lots of error messages). Went back to the HTC ROM and all seemed fine until today.

Today I installed some GPS software that installed .NET compact framework and again the browser became unusable (although the WiFi was stll connecting fine). So I reflashed with the HTC ROM (yet again!) but this time the problem remained. So I have now flashed the Super ROM, I am using NoData to supress use of GPRS and have turned the WiFi setting to Max Performance. All seems OK at the moment so I'm keeping my fingers crossed!

Cheers!

John
[Touch 3G General] eliseman:
Hi Rikkij,

Do this at your own risk................

Have a look at the following for the complete process:-

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=514406

Here's how I understand the process (perhaps someone with better knowledge can correct!):-

Step 1: Install Hard-SPL

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=483465

Inside the ROM is some program code to handle the ROM flashing (amongst other things). This is the SPL. Normally (i.e. in officially released ROMs) this will only allow ROM images that have been digitally signed by HTC. This means that only ROMs generated by HTC can be loaded into FLASH.

The new Hard-SPL will accept ROMs that have not been digitally signed which means that ROMs generated by 3rd parties can be flashed.

In addition the new Hard-SPL "protects" itself against being overwritten by an SPL included in a ROM update. Thus once you have flashed the new SPL you will (should!) never need to do it again.

Step 2: Install the latest official HTC ROM

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=441673

Step 3: Install the Super ROM

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=506843

John
[Touch 3G General] rikkij:
Jade Touch 3G Wifi GPRS issue

John,

Thank you so much for this detailed information, I will definitely give a try, but just one last question, if you (or someone) can help me. My mobile is currently locked to Orange network, do I have to get this unlocked before I try any of these steps? I mean, is it advisable that I should have my mobile unlocked or it doesn't matter ?

Thanks again, you have added excellent information to this thread. I will update on this thread to let other readers know about how did my trial go for these steps
[Touch 3G General] doublegandt:
Just for info, I am on Orange UK also.

I am so pleased I debranded from Orange - via this very helpful forum - a few months ago. I could never get the hang of the Orange Unique stuff anyway - just to confusing. Talking to Orange, they didn't seem to know much about it either - they even said you had to have an Orange Livebox and be an Orange Broadband customer for it to work. But I don't know - it never worked anyway!

I did not unlock my phone - just put Hard SPL and a stock ROM on it. Works brilliantly now (except for Opera which will only connect via GPRS).

I use nodata to switch GPRS on/off because I have unlimited GPRS in the UK but I refuse to pay crazy prices for roaming.
[Touch 3G General] eliseman:
Hi Rikkij,

Reflashing the ROM and network locking are not linked so if you reflash without getting the phone unlocked then the phone will remain locked to Orange. However see post #13 in:-

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=528782&page=2

This suggests that there may be a problem getting unlocked after you have flashed the phone. Personally I would (and have!) invest the money in getting an unlock before reflashing (I used http://www.unlock-now.com with no problem).

John
[Touch 3G General] phil-w:
Thanks to eliseman for advising people what they need to do to upgrade the phone and make it work in a non Orange way.....

I'm struggling to find where, on here I got the new radio rom image but if you find it before I do just post a link in this thread to save people time..

The phone is now working well, just the occaisional GPS drop out when running TomTom but not sure why.

The Jademan SuperRom is available in version V3 or V2.3 form. The only difference being the location reporting for a stolen phone etc in V3 but I have yet to get that to work any way !

I will keep watching the thread with interest..

Phil
[Touch 3G General] phil-w:
Radio rom....

Just found the radio rom thread. Not sure, but I think this is the thread I got my new radio rom image from...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=496737

Phil-w
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] rajeevsudra:
I have recently flashed my bootscreen on my rogers magic. I need a way to restore the original splash screens, as flashing the Rom did not restore the rogers boot screen. I wanted to know whether any body had the white on black logo and the htc magic screen. This is quote urgent as I need to return the device for warranty replacement.

Thanks
[General Questions and Answers] TopiK_X:
First an foremost id like to complement all XDA-Dev staff for making such a helpfull forum.

next:

Im making a internet explorer mobile bizzness aplication for an industrial PDA

the motorola MC9090 with barcode integrated.

I allready made the aplication but tested it in a updated version of internet explorer.

My Q is: how can I update these 10 motorola machines with a newer updated version of internet explorer mobile without updating the whole windows mobile?!

Thankz in advance
[General Questions and Answers] Rudegar:
never heard of any pocketpc inrom program like ie or wmp being updated by a cab
[General Questions and Answers] Farmer Ted:
The easy way will just be to upgrade the roms, but you probably don't want to do that. I'm assuming they all have PIE 5. The newer versions of PIE are getting better (the initial PIE 6 betas were pretty bad, imo), but they're still quite beta in nature. I don't think you can use these, though, as they are built around WM 6.5. I suppose you could download a 6.1 kitchen with PIE 6 in it, then rec'mod (or whatever it's called) all of the PIE modules and make a cab file. I'm not sure it would work (pretty sure I couldn't get it to work, but someone else might be able to do it).

Long story short, it will be hard without flashing, and given that the new PIE's for 6.1 suck, I'm not sure it's worth it. I'd just go for a different browser, if you can use it. Check Meinnesys's browser review for a ton of info (he'll also say that PIE6 is crap, as I remember).
[General Questions and Answers] TopiK_X:
hmmmm maybe other browser then.

Yes that maybe right, Farmer Ted.

But, I've been searching and probably I will go for an opera browser or fennec.

This is a huge setback for development and if I use a proper browser the development time will be much shortened i just hope boss understands this.

Because he is pushing us to do it for pie. which makes no sense at as it is just a huge load of crap.

By the way is there a mobile browser that you recommend i take a look before deciding on opera or fennec?

Thanks for the reply and take care.
[General Questions and Answers] Farmer Ted:
I personally use opera mini 4.2 v8 version. It's crazy fast, but may be too lite for business. Check out Iris, it's basically like PIE, but better.

I've never used Fennec, but from what I've read, it's very alpha. I'd suggest avoiding it for now.

Opera Mini and Skyfire both do their rendering on a proxy server, which makes them fast. I guess that security is lower in that scenario (although you can change the server in opera mini). They might be nice, though, for business because you could set up a single user account for all the devices, and if needed you could set up a library of bookmarks that everyone could access.

Iris is nice because it uses PIE's cookies (only browser I've found that does this), and it can import PIE bookmarks. You can set the Iris cache to the storage card as well in settings. (You can also do this with PIE, but it requires registry edits).

UCWEB6 is also fast (a little slower than opera mini), and you can import PIE bookmarks with it. It is also a light, mobile browser, and it does the rendering on your device, so I guess it's more secure than mini if less quick (in my experience).

I've been using Opera Beta 9.7 some recently. It is quite nice, and fits my tastes. I like browsers that quickly render pages in a single column. You can set it to do this, and it does so reliably. I don't care for the normal Opera, which renders pages beautifully like you see them on a desktop, but you have to futz around a ton to get it so you can read what's on there. This is all down to tastes, though, and a lot of people don't like the mobile-view. The beta version will work fine for you as long as you don't enable the 'Turbo' mode. Turbo mode is very beta, and it doesn't store cookies (or history, I believe). It's basically the same as Opera Mini, anyway, but not quite as fast.

If you find that none of the alternate browsers are suitable, I'd suggest making some registry tweaks to PIE to improve it. In particular, move the cache to the sd card, and also increase the # of connections or threads or whatever they call it-the tweaks are available in sk tools. Just max out all of them, and see if things work better.
[General Questions and Answers] Farmer Ted:
Here is a cab that re-routes your cache to the storage card (it must be called storage card and not 'sd card'). It also sets the default download location to the sd card, increases the max connections per server to 8 and has a tweak to increase download rate. These are the actual keys:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders]

"History"="\\Storage Card\\Temporary Internet Files\\History"

"Cookies"="\\Storage Card\\Temporary Internet Files\\Cookies"

"Cache"="\\Storage Card\\Temporary Internet Files\\Temporary Internet Files"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main\Default storage location]

"All Files"="\\Storage Card\\My Documents\\My Downloads"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main]

"ReadAllBytesThreshhold"=dword:00000400

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings]

"MaxConnectionsPerServer"=dword:00000008

You can also increase the cache size; here is the setting for 20,480 MB. For some reason, it's not sticking on my fuze, so I didn't include it in the cab:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\5.0\Cache\Content]

"CacheLimit"=dword:00005000

You need to soft reset after installing the cab. Oh, and I posted this with Iris (over my mobiler). It was kind of a pain in the butt, but do-able.

Edit: What the heck, the second cab increases the cache to 20 MB. Only install if you have the cache on the storage card. And soft reset after installing.
[Touch Cruise 2 General] a.kettler:
Hello there,

I'm playing around with the Iolite for a few hours now, trying to find out, from which folder TTnav can read geotagged photos so that they're usable in 'Navigate to...' > 'Picture' within TTnav

Navigating to a geo-photo works in TouchFlo2D using the footprints tab, so I assume it's only a problem of wrong folder being used in some registry key or so.

Any help is much appreciated.

Thanks and Regards
[Touch Cruise 2 General] torrentonly:
I think, that "Navigate to Picture" feature in TomTom and navigation from Footprints have nothing in common. Footprint probably use TomTom API to pass GPS location from image directly to TomTom. While TomTom itself might use some own way.

But one important thing. I am not totally sure, but I think, that Footprints don't store GPS info in pictures, but in own DB, so they can't be used directly in TomTom.

Anyway, I found some procedures, how to import geotagged image into TomTom, but none of them worked. I will update this post, if I will found something...

Well, here is it. I found it in FAQ on TomTom website (surprisingly :) )
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hollandg:
Hello all,

To be clear I'm not asking for a ROM, I'm asking if the XDA-Dev tools can be used to produce a TG01 ROM?

I've just got one on an upgrade and I'm not sure if I like it enough yet, one of the big deals would be if I could take a dump of the factory installed ROM and then play around trying to get it how I like it. And then I geuss a follow on question would be, can the HTC roms be used on the TG01?

I know that XDA-Dev is really for HTC devices, just think this is the best source on the net to ask WinMo brains a question.

Cheers
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] stepw:
Until there's a way to flash your modified ROM back (without bricking the device too), what's the point of playing with the ROM dump reconstruction?

To answer your question, yes, you can use some of the tools found here with TG01 ROM dump, e.g. to rebuild IMGFS. Most probably existing tools won't be capable of creating a flashable ROM image in the format TG01 expects/supports though. Especially since this format is not known yet AFAIK.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Apps and Games] zidane:
can i replace certain apps with other similar apps on other roms?

like the gallery for example with the album app in hero roms? because with the gallery i cant flip through pictures i have to tap on the arrow

also my activesync does not sync calender...it only does email

and also, i want to change the look of my dailer, do i install a new dialer ?
[G1 Android Development] overpower:
Reserved for my test results.
[G1 Android Development] cyanogen:
Another good test is iMeem. This app is a memory whore and really puts pressure on the system.
[G1 Android Development] derfolo:
Cyanogen 3.6.8.1

2.6.29-cm
15:19:09 up 5:28, load average: 7.58, 5.31, 4.33
20
Filename	Type	Size	Used	Priority
/dev/ramzswap0 partition	24464	15968	-1
DiskSize:	24468 kB
NumReads:	7817
NumWrites:	8908
FailedReads:	0
FailedWrites:	0
InvalidIO:	0
PagesDiscard:	0
ZeroPages:	241
GoodCompress:	65 %
NoCompress:	12 %
PagesStored:	5871
PagesUsed:	2370
OrigDataSize:	23484 kB
ComprDataSize:	9323 kB
MemUsedTotal:	9480 kB
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 97876 95852 2024 0 560
Swap: 24464 15968 8496
Total: 122340 111820 10520

home Y
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 97876 96348 1528 0 776
Swap: 24464 14600 9864
Total: 122340 110948 11392

browser Y
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 97876 96528 1348 0 420
Swap: 24464 14844 9620
Total: 122340 111372 10968

home Y
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 97876 96432 1444 0 752
Swap: 24464 14792 9672
Total: 122340 111224 11116

browser Y
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 97876 96484 1392 0 404
Swap: 24464 14844 9620
Total: 122340 111328 11012

home Y
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 97876 96464 1412 0 668
Swap: 24464 15048 9416
Total: 122340 111512 10828
[G1 Android Development] derfolo:
No other posts? C'mon everyone, these statistics will help YOU get a faster, better configured phone.
[G1 Android Development] derfolo:
Hmm. So what you are saying is that we should find no significance in the fact the cyanogen already posted in this thread with supportive info for the tests.

Also, in regards to your work on .6, what benchmarking plan did you have to prove:

1) that .6 performs better than .5 on our phones

2) that .6 performs better than a linux swap on our phones

3) that .6 performs better than .5 with a backing swap on our phones

Please note that any answers to this thread could help build these benchmarks for you.
[G1 Android Development] pinetreehater:
Running CM 3.8

Browser only reloaded once...even with music playing, and running wisepilot! Even the one reload was a quick one.

2.6.29-cm
18:05:17 up 1:13, load average: 2.75, 3.69, 4.14
60
Filename Type Size Used Priorit

/dev/ramzswap0 partition 31996 21264 -1
DiskSize: 32000 kB
NumReads: 15024
NumWrites: 16558
FailedReads: 0
FailedWrites: 0
InvalidIO: 0
PagesDiscard: 246
ZeroPages: 196
GoodCompress: 75 %
NoCompress: 4 %
PagesStored: 7804
PagesUsed: 2977
OrigDataSize: 31216 kB
ComprDataSize: 11516 kB
MemUsedTotal: 11908 kB
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 97876 96376 1500 0 576
Swap: 31996 21264 10732
Total: 129872 117640 12232
#

From CNN to Home

**snappy
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 97876 95752 2124 0 588
Swap: 31996 22040 9956
Total: 129872 117792 12080

From Home to CNN

**snappy no reload

total used free shared buffers
Mem: 97876 96032 1844 0 520
Swap: 31996 22020 9976
Total: 129872 118052 11820
#

ADDED MUSIC PLAYER BACKGROUND And checked mem

total used free shared buffers
Mem: 97876 95964 1912 0 624
Swap: 31996 17516 14480
Total: 129872 113480 16392

FROM HOME TO CNN
**Reload

total used free shared buffers
Mem: 97876 96120 1756 0 448
Swap: 31996 24780 7216
Total: 129872 120900 8972

CNN to Home
**Snappy...no redraw
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 97876 96400 1476 0 492
Swap: 31996 29248 2748
Total: 129872 125648 4224

Home to Browser
***Snappy NO RELOAD WITH MUSIC RUNNING!!!

total used free shared buffers
Mem: 97876 96288 1588 0 464
Swap: 31996 26660 5336
Total: 129872 122948 6924

ADDED WISEPILOT NAVIGATION mUSIC STILL RUNNING
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 97876 96532 1344 0 396
Swap: 31996 27592 4404
Total: 129872 124124 5748

WISEPILOT RUNNING, MUSIC RUNNING, SWITCHED TO CNN from within wisepilot (search b)
***NO RELOAD, NO LAG....
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 97876 95988 1888 0 492
Swap: 31996 27208 4788
Total: 129872 123196 6676
#
[G1 Android Development] pinetreehater:
double posted