yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ghorricks:
Well it used to be stability. I remember when 6.5 was first cooked and I tried as many different flavours as possible. The only one that was fast and stable at that time was Miri's ROM. Loved it very much.

But I guess that without re-visiting Dutty's good work once more, I have nothing to compare Miri's to?

So, here I am eagerly awaiting the latest and greatest from Dutty. Will I be a convert?? Who knows - What I do know is that these chefs spend a lot of time cooking new ROMs for us all and I am very grateful that they do so.

Any tips on the pro's of using a Dutty ROM these days?

I found Manila 2.5 to be a little buggy in Miri's v23.

Gav
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Most wm6.5 are stable now. Think you'll be impressed with Throys latest addition, especially his up and coming R7 with manila 2.5. I've tried manila 2.5 and I agree its too buggy with a number of things not working including sms. However Throy appears to have fixed a lot of these issues.

I think Miri tried to get it out to soon so he could be the first, but as you mentioned was riddled with bugs.

No real tips on using any rom to be honest, a lot of wm6.5 roms are becoming very similar and finger friendly to use. I believe my only tip would be to try it out!!

EDIT

If I was to suggest 3 wm6.5 roms, I'd recommend Throys, Miri's and Nrg's. Obviously I biased towards Throys!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ghorricks:
Thanks for that advice. Miri did mention that it was buggy and would be useful for testing only. :)

But I didn't realise that it was under the chefs control to be able to fix bugs in software, especially Manilla as it appear so complex. The SMS bug was too big to continue using 2.5, so I reverted back. The footprint issue was perhaps something which didn't bother me as I have no idea if I would find it useful or not. The extra icons on the Home tab were great, but something isn't quite right.

The anticipation is building and I am REALLY looking forward to R6 Turbo! (or is it R7 that is released today?)

I am after a ROM with manila 2.5 ("working" if possible)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] anssibragge:
In wm6.5 miri has had so far better stability. Not so many apps cooked in and not so many showstoppers as what I have read from the dutty threads.

Miri has been able to roll out a fix quite fast for some of the problems - with dutty it seems to take a bit longer at the moment.

But the history does not foresee the future. This time I still went for Miri's V23 as the thread for dutty's R4 was having too many problem reports.

abe
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xahrnah:
Its R6 coming now, and its not manila 2.5 yet afaik, thats R7 and will be a while (thank god, dont want bugs).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] anssibragge:
Yes I would say he wanted to get it out for toying around as soon as possible. But he did not make an "official release" of the ROM with the 2.5. It was a special treat for the playful enough flash junkies.... :)

abe
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] barbapappa_86:
R6 is today. Dutty said that his R7 MAY include manilla 2.5.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Buembel:
manila 2.5 sucks... you can't see the background well, contact view now looks like program launcher and some more small things. only good thing is that it can automatically update album cover xD

using panoramic background, a transparent clock and slider and much more things with 2.1 I'm much happier ;-)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] maati:
That's right. I also hate the new contacts tab.

Before, you could quickly dial any number associated with a contact (home/work/mobile...) or write an email or sms.

Now you can only dial the number you choose when adding the contact to the tab. This sucks.

And you can't see more than one appointment on the home screen now. This sucks, too.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Throy is newer to wm6.5 than Miri is. This has given Miri a slight advantage with his roms as Throy is still toying and playing with it. But this gap has closed significantly

I personally like the look of the new contacts tab in manila 2.5, but the functionality is still not right!!

I agree that the homepage for manila 2.5 isn't right yet. Too much space is taken up with the new quick links. But these points have already been put forward and a lot of cooks know these so expect this to change soon!!

Manila 2.5 is another inept attempt by HTC to produce something rather rushed in my opinion which just isn't right. Yes, its a step in the right direction, but I find HTC always appear to take 2 steps back afterwards!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sosojerk:
has anyone noticed that Manill 2.5 does not display missed calls?

they appear only in top bar of WM.

I think what we see will not be a final Manilla 2.5.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cytokine:
I am perfectly satisfied using Dutty's 3.9 XT Turbo ROM. Is there a really good reason to upgrade to this one?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
If you are satisfied with a rom and it ticks all the right boxes, you only have one reason to change, or possibly 2 reasons

1. Curiosity

2. Your a flashaholic
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] barbapappa_86:
I think that the WM 6.5 start meny is awesome! And the new lock in 6.5 is also great. Try it and se if you like it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Nitrius:
What's the current status on R6? Like will we see it being released today? Tomorrow?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Quick use of the search button found this posted earlier by Throy. In future try searching before posting

Ta
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fifo:
Flashed R5 on my holidayvacation and must say it worth it :)

1. TomTom is smoothest ever, the route is scrolling fast like never before

2. Landscape TF3D allso fastest ever

Dutty thank you 4 your hard work :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MrRalphMan:
Must be an Essex thing... ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
I was as well, but as I fall into category 2 under Fallen Spartans groups below :D and Dutty has reduced his 6.1 ROMs output drastically, I needed my fix ;).

IMHO, R5 has all that 3.9 offers (yes, even the option to use 3.9 style menu's if you prefer these to the 6.5 menu's)

Most definitely a number 2. As R6 did not get released last night I found an old Elf lying around and just had to flash that....:D

Personally I prefer the 3.9 style, and there are other again who prefer the standard 6.1 drop down - each to their own I guess.

I do also love the new lock, no more hassles trying to answer calls with S2U2. I have set mine to lock automatically on dimming. I have a problem however, as when I unlock the light would not come back to the normal level. I searched and found a solution which required the installation of Lumos, which works, but I was wondering if there is another easier solution, such as a reg edit so I do not need to install yet another cab?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Think you'll find I'm Irish and not from Essex. The Irish tend to fall over from drinking too much while Essex people (girls) just tend to fall into bed with anyone!!....hmmmm, maybe I should visit again!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Have you tried this?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jyod24:
task app not finger friendly

Hi to all,

i know this is a bit off topic

The reason that there is winmo 6.5 is probably like a challenge to mac os on iphone for a stylus-FREE OS. I do appreciate it, but i feel its like a half past job. Its HTC manila constant improvement that allows more fingers less stylus. E.g the calender in manila 2.5 Hope winmo 7 will be much better in the years to come.

However, i do realize even in manila 2.5, apps like task apps are not finger friendly. Hence i seek to you all for suggestion on apps that work like task or like a to do list.

Thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] talboy:
Just a quick review of R5 after a few days of use for those unsure of whether to move from 6.1 dutty to 6.5 dutty...

So far, 6.5 has shown a few bugs nothing that cannot be lived with, unfortunately titanium is pretty much not worth the hassle its rubbish compared to manilla..

scrolling in 6.5 is smooth but is slightly slower and jerks now and again compared to 3.9 xt. Realistically 3.9 has been best release so far for stability and smooth running, but 6.5 is only in 4th release so far so it is well on its way to being as god if not better.

Connectivity in 6.5 is better than 6.1 by a fair margin, i have found better siognal strength and dowenloading and displaying emails is much quicker in 6.5.

GPS is absolutly amazing in 6.5 r5, tomtom finds a fix within seconds and amazingly google maps will have a fix with atleast 5 satellites soon as app starts up which i find to be remarkable...

All in all id recomend it if if you are already thinking about 6.5, just do it its worth it however if youv not really thought about the yupgrade your not missing anything big just yet, but it wont be long before your upgrading to dutty 6.5...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] soeuriffin:
I really love your rom but turbo R5 it doesnt have program tab in TFL3D and manila not great enought. so I want to cook Turbo R6, can you donate file to me plse? I live in Cambodia so I dont have paypal acount

Thank you

Best wish
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bimme:
I´d like to try the next WM6.5 release when my HD is back from RMA.

What app is good for screen rotation in WM6.5? Heard that changescreen has some problems...

Would use the new sensor drivers to rotate, but don´t like the way to add programs to the whitelist via registry. So what do you think about the APP GConfig ?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=487991

is it possible to add this to the next release Dutty?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gradecak:
If u have read this tread carefully you'll find fix for program tab it works grate and no functionality has been lost.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] duttythroy:
Rom is uplaoding now guys, any other changes etc will have to be put in next release, already work so hard on this and want to reelase it to all flash addicts.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] TomF1979:
1000x Thanks for your hard work and your wonderful Roms :cool:

Cant wait to flash :D

Br Tom
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] duttythroy:
its been a while good friend , :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xjacko:
Many thanks, once again
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jaypeev_9:
Thanks again Dutty for your hardwork and for giving us the best ROM!!! Waiting for R6 to be online. :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
You can add the program tab back easily. There is a cab file in this thread that does just that.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] 2unique:
ah worth waiting up - almost midnight here
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] douginoz:
Midnight? Hell, it's 2:54am here! (Melbourne)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] moshbeard:
Not to turn this into a 'what is the time where you are' thread, but it's almost 6PM here.

I'm patiently awaiting R6, another great ROM is what I'm predicting.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] niktheman:
Hi Dutty

you have the link as there is no Link to R6 on your website,

thanks for all your work.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] DAIDY:
DUTTY thanks for their hard work, you are a great!

hello.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
That's because he is uploading still

As I'm a Reds fan, I won't jump on you for not reading the topic heading.....:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] douginoz:
He's still uploading. Could be an hour or two. Wait until the thread's title changes (note how it reads "UPLOADING"?)

His site will update as well.

Patience. If you've used these before you'll know that it's not always best to be the first, anyway. Usually there's a few glitches that are found my early-birders and resolved within a few hours.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] illuminated:
Hi soeuriffin,

You see, if you'd wonna cook there are a lot of steps you'd need to do prior to that... Let me note just few of them:

- you should love cooking! If you want to have mass appreciation of what you're cooking initial precondition is for you to love doin' it. If you don't love cooking, the products of your effort will burn out soon.

- you should know some cookin' theory! Imagine a cook trying to mix milk and lemon... :) (or, in this case, to put a portable version of Konqueror on WM6.x ;) )

- you should know in advance what you want to cook. If you do know, then you'd be able to carefully plan, design and develop your kitchen first, so you'd be able to create your own perfect cooking environment ;-)

- then, you should be aware of the ingridients you wanna use while cooking. There are sooo many of them, but you should find your own perfect combination.

At the end you should be able to cook something that will taste at least good enough to most of the people around the world. Once you have more than 50% of the people "eating" your cooks satisfied with your mastership, you could call yourself a chef and be really proud of it cause it took you a lot of time, energy and effort to come where you are.

Then you can take some master classes to fine tune your cooking skills, but you might develop your own and host similar events! Yepeeeyy! :)

Good luck with your cooking!!

----

Notes on the margine:

I wrote all the above just to explain the following: once you become a recognized cook - donations would find a way to you themselves, even if there isn't a paypal for Cambodia ;-)

Cheers! (and please, no hard feelings :) I'm just feeling extremely positive this afternoon ;-) )
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] niktheman:
lol, sorry, just so eager to flash it and try it out.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] str0nz0:
+5

Please!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
You and me both (oh and probably a few hundred others). On Sunday when Dutty released R5, there were more than 1,000 attempted downloads once the structure was created on Duttythroy.net even before the upload was completed.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] niktheman:
just proves what good work he does.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] p3eps:
I suppose its all about personal preference, but as soon as I started using WM6.5 I switched off Manilla and have been much happier using Titanuim through the last 4 releases.

I find it much quicker and easier to manouvre through - especially things like texting / emails. I find the Manilla just a 'cover' as you need to click through it to get into the WM screen for typing texts /emails etc anyway.

Titanium isn't so good for music, videos, photos, weather... and the going back to that calander is a bit of a pain. But for general normal phone / text use, I find Titanium easier. I've got the Opera pluggin on my Titanium too - so its easier than Manilla as well!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tboy2000:
Thank you Dutty for adding a cab for MS keyboard. Am happy.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] samoyed0717:
can't wait any longer !!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] heartofwolf:
Thank You very much, I'm sure this ROM will be great! Will You upload also cabs?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] 2unique:
will there be a MSVC version, i miss having it in the car...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] illuminated:
I was also wondering this...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Shival:
How much of an Improvment is R6 from R5?

Just flashed R5 a few days ago and it has made me want to shoot myself!

Usb connection Problems, File Explorer drags, Just had to restart the phone to get it to connect back to the computer, Can not enter Advanced Notifications unless you wait ten mins, and that is about all I remember. Not complaining! Just want to get this out there. I love dutty's work.

Dutty, can you make it so the phone will repeat an alert for text messages just like it does for Voice Mails?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MrKaon:
you just had a bad flash
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henv:
I installed Max Theme Maker and then the program tab is there. Dl also latest layout so the icons are not too big
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Shival:
Did I do something wrong when I flashed?

I always Hard Reset after I flash.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Probably not, there always seems to be someone who is unlucky and gets the lemon. I had not such experiences as you are describing. Hopefully you get a good one this time.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] duttythroy:
msvc 1.6.23007 rom will be avaialble also
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] illuminated:
Looking forward! :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] zenkinz:
I am hoping you can have this ready in the next few minutes because I'm almost falling asleep (it's 2.11am now) :D :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mrishi:
will this rom have the new manilla version
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ardsar:
no, wait for version R7 - it still has a few bugs.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jamal_swanage:
You mean 2.1 becouse 2.5 have a lot of bugs!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] donbronzi:
I agree with you mate. The widgit system is really handy and effecient, however it still needs developing. i've got the weather and comm manager widgit but can't get the opera one to work!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] charmz2k2:
I'm so gutted :(

I desperately want to flash this rom onto my phone.. but I need to keep my text messages completely safe because I've had a few texts from an ex which i need to keep as proof of harassment.. and that's going to be for quite a while :(

So gutted :(

Dutty, you're the MAN!!! Please keep up the fantastic work :) and hopefully, one day.. I'll be able to use this fantastic looking rom!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] rlatarche:
Use PIM backup to back your texts up!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jamal_swanage:
I had some problems with new skyfire. If anyone else had a similar problem?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
I installed G-Config and configured some applications easily. It works well.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] niktheman:
Doesn't work as it doesn't restore them for some reason, that on all 6.5 roms
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cliffosj:
use windows myphone to back them up.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
Are you sure? I restored my texts to R4 from a PIMbackup I made in v3.9.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MrKaon:
Use microsoft my phone

Dutty always includes it on his ROMs
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] niktheman:
Which software did you use.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] htcvista:
Also waiting to flash this rom. Much left of the upload? :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] rlatarche:
Does sprite backup work?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] niktheman:
Using R3, but that does it on-line so it doesn't stay private as i dont like to sync with internet services. Any other way?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] NikD1:
Hi Dutty,

Just had a look at www.romforge.com

That is EXACTLY what everyone needs! Cant wait till you get it up and running although im sure it will be quite a few months especially with all your hard work on the HD ROMS. Speaking of which..

Cant wait for R6 and even more cant wait for R7 :D

I had a little go with miri V23 with TF3D2.5 and mostly works with a few bugs but im thinking once you get your hands on it, it will be near perfect :P (no pressure or anything..!!)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] zenkinz:
both pimbackup and myphone works for me!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] niktheman:
Tried that and Spb Backup, no joy
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
PIMBackup, it is also included in Dutty's add-on cabs.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ultimatepichu:
PIMbackup

okay i need a quick answer. I'm using v3.9 now. Planning to go for R6. SMS etc plan to keep because it's important. Can PIMBackUp function thru diff os version?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] str0nz0:
Dutty, what about spending the next few donations into a faster internetconnection?

I could upload a Rom within minutes with my connection, you always need hours :-)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] str0nz0:
PIMBackup has never failed for me, and i switched between different WM6.1 and WM6.5 Roms back and forth
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] repsolblade:
HD on FIRE!!!

Not literally!;) But since I Flashed this SUPERB ROM(ty Dutty). The thing feels like it's gonna burn my fingers off. Heat is eminating from rear, underneath battery. It is happening when I am using apps for over 20 mins or so.Anyone else had this problem?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] RacerII:
Thats not really nice.

Its not only the uploading , but also posting the roms on his site and here...

He always puts allot of work in it an that takes time.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] niktheman:
can't find it on his web site
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
Yes. I have done it without a problem between multiple versions of Dutty's WM6.1 & 6.5 ROMs.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ultimatepichu:
thank you! Orite, now is just waiting for Dutty! any eta? say 30mins? or less?:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
This seems to be a by product of radio ver. 1.14. Check the radio thread for more info.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] primbcadman:
Lovely. Thanks so much for putting up with us picky people
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
Give this a try :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Behold:
------Removed as some people take things too seriously and im not wanting to offend----------
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] FinHD:
Ummm... considering that he does these Roms basicly for free, on his own time and puts them out without any limitations... I'd shut up if the upload takes some time. I think that Dutty should stop informing about the progress of each Rom and tell us only when they are finished and uploaded.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
Sorry... I said I had bad eyesight :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] heartofwolf:
What's wrong with you? can't you wait? Try not to hurt yourself when pushing F5! You should thank Dutty.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] moshbeard:
Take into account there are usually a couple of different versions of each ROM, and they need to be uploaded to various difference sources such as the official site and Rapidshare.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ultimatepichu:
i saw the folder =D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Behold:
Seriously guys I think it was meant in a bit of jest hense the smiley. Thats how i took it... I swear everyone on here is in defense mode only.....

Take it easy.... we are all appriciative of dutty and his roms and fully understand there free.

Anyway. Im waiting patiently on my F5 and have been a while and will be too..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] primbcadman:
Well said.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] niktheman:
Thanks, downloaded and backed up, now just waiting on Dutty for R6
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ABDOKRO1:
I found it funny too... Everybody relax !
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ardsar:
what makes me laugh are the number of times a "blank" file has tried to be downloaded on Duttys site - 50 already. Suprised Dutty's server doesnt see all these F5 presses as a DOS attack!

YOu cant download the file, until the title changes from "comming soon" to the actual file name!!!!