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[Touch CDMA General] canyoufindben:
I completely understand colaberation.

OK, I've been doing the steps you listed. The only thing I haven't done is reset and try again after an infinite loop. Formatting/ Loading files now for Full 2.0 and will give that a try. In all the confusion, have we confirmed that SDHC's do work now?
[Touch CDMA General] TheKartus:
I'm having issues even getting to the setup screen on the lite build now, I'm playing the waiting game with it though. We'll see which one of us has more patience, me or my phone.
[Touch CDMA General] mssmison:
wow lots of posts in 10 minutes.

Okay for apns, they are an xml file stored in /system/etc, easy to edit and figure out. my first hero build has the right apns in it so you could just adb pull and than adb push to the new hero build.

Yes donut has better scailing, (apparantly so I'm told, it might no be implimented yet though)

you must use my initrd. it sets permissions that are required by hero. zenulator is using my initrd now as well.
[Touch CDMA General] aven_soulgazer:
If someone wants to send me one I'll find out. I need a new card. Just this hero build has my stock sd card full. No pictures or media of any other kind. I've lost track at this point. There is someone trying to get it to work on a normal or sdhd card right now, someone earlier couldn't get it to run on their sdhd card but got it on a normal card. There might of been a person or two running it on SDHD cards. I think it can run it, just can't mount it to see stuff on it that's not part of the android system, but could be wrong.

Out of curiosity, if someone get's it booted up and not put in their google email or password. Could they back up all the files and send those to people having trouble getting it going? I guess you'd only need the blank data.img
[Touch CDMA General] SuperJMN:
Ooops! I did what you told me and it booted up, but some component related to "core" hanged and forced me to close it. The stand-by screen is shown, but I can't get to the "desktop" to launch any application.

For Polaris.

The files I have are:

1º The ones from Android ION for Vogue (http://vogue-android.googlecode.com/files/android-1.5-2009-07-23.zip)

2º Its custom default.txt for Polaris.

3º I replaced initrd.gz by the one from hero.zip

4º I replaced system.img by herofull2.0.img

5º Deleted my old data.img
[Touch CDMA General] TheKartus:
Still can't get a data connection to sync with the lite version. I saw a flicker of 3G connection but then it went away and won't come back in order to sync.

Now I skipped that step and am on the screen to hit finish on setup but it won't let me, I think its kind of frozen up. It is showing an up arrow for 3g though so that's a good sign, maybe I can get it going once I get in after the reboot then sync.
[Touch CDMA General] craig0r:
Yeah, I'm still having that issue with the Lite build as well. I don't think I'm going to use the Full build at all, at least until we get a flashable ROM. It is very pretty, but too sluggish for me to use on a day-to-day basis.
[Touch CDMA General] TheKartus:
Now its synching my mail and hopefully my contacts, but I am getting that the google.process.gapps has stopped. Gonna just wait it out and see if it will sync before I kill it.

Then I can go back to the full version.

EDIT: It synced but now the issue is that it pulled in all my email addresses on gmail too, not just the google contacts that I wanted it to pull in. I may need to make a new gmail account with only the contacts I want and then sync with that so I dont have to go into groups everytime to get the ones I want.

Going to delete the data file, use full to make a new one, then resync with the new account and lite. Thank god its not a busy day at work.
[Touch CDMA General] aven_soulgazer:
When it hangs, do not press force close. Let it sit there for 5 or 10 minutes. You should see a language screen come up under the error screen. Once you see that press force close. If you don't see it after 10 to 15 minutes either wait some more or reset it and try the same thing again. That's how we've had to do it for our vogues.

I used the data image that I set up with the full version and switched the system files to the lite version, booted up beautifully with no problems. There is no setup on the lite version if you do it that way.

With the full build 2.0 and I assume 2.5, you can tell it to use the standard home screen. It's quicker, same as lite since touchflo isn't running. Guess the only advantage is for showing off like I so often do. Get the homeswitcher.apk and you can switch between normal home and touchflo whenever you want to.

Yeah, you can manually make it sync under settings somewhere. I'll have to boot back up to find out where. Take me about 15 minutes to get on, and set up a new data image.

Oh, and if you set up the data in full go to settings - applications - touchflo - scroll down to clear defaults and press clear defaults. Now press home, press remember this option and click home. Then switch out system files. Not sure if that step is neccesary but that's what I did and worked fine for me.
[Touch CDMA General] myshinynewtouch:
anyone been able to get the lite version runnig without any problems ? if you could pls post step by step intructions and also how really stable/fast it is when compared to hero themed cupcake version
[Touch CDMA General] keith.mcintyre26:
aven_soulgazer-

I'm using the cupcake 1.5 with the hero theme that was uploaded last night.
[Touch CDMA General] aven_soulgazer:
I have lite running. I have to run but directions are in my posts on the last couple of pages.

Get herofull2 up and running to create a data.img. I have tricks posted on several posts. Boot up, when you see the force close error message, don't press it, wait 10-15 minutes if you have to. You should see a language select screen underneath the pop up at some point, then force close and go through setup. You probably can't connect to google as data only works for bell in canada.

Once that's up and running go back to winmo and change your system image to the lite version, do not delete data, and run haret. should boot up with no problem.

sorry in a rush for lunch, be back in an hour or so.

k, thanks
[Touch CDMA General] fireshaper:
You should have a group in GMail that is called "My Contacts" where your phone contacts are stored.
[Touch CDMA General] craig0r:
Sweet, Imma try that out now. Thanks for the summary post!

EDIT: OK, I got Lite up and going without doing the whole "run the Full2 image first" deal. I just did as aven_soulgazer said and let it sit with the "Force Close" message on the screen until I got the wizard show up in the back.
[Touch CDMA General] myshinynewtouch:
man - this is sooooo frustrating, i am at work right now and can't access mediafire and i desperately want to install hero lite and check out how its like... can anyone comment on speed/stability of hero lite.. wish someone can load it up on google code page..

one thing i noticed was with the new htc hero full build, the screen looks crisper/sharper and all icons are more beautifull. wonder if we can copy those to any hero lite/hero theme based builds.

also, mssmison has said that he was uploading a new hero theme based cupcake build, did he upload it to mediafire or google code ?
[Touch CDMA General] fireshaper:
Was that with a clean data.img? Every time I tried to do that I got stuck on the HTC screen.
[Touch CDMA General] prodigy2m:
Sprint

Hey,

I just realized that my phone doesn't have internet as well as phone connection. It seems to only work on GSM models or something? Does anyone know why I get no service on this build? Hey guys, does anyone tested this with Sprint?

Cool stufff tho
[Touch CDMA General] mssmison:
When you get the force close keep waiting for google setup. don't press force close please everyone.
[Touch CDMA General] craig0r:
It was with no data.img... but I spoke too soon I think. I got through the setup wizard, and now it hangs at the HTC screen, although the "light shining" animation continues to go.
[Touch CDMA General] NarSan:
notifications doesn't work, I can't import contacts from SIm card (blank screen)

calendar widget (small) doesn't work

sms's not coming

the screen is little for narrow ?

SD card is not detecting...
[Touch CDMA General] TheKartus:
My lite version seems to be up and running. Occasionally in settings it was making me force close it, but everything else seems to be nice. I am going to get setup here, and then try and move to the full version. Do you think its best to clear my home screens before I change system images?
[Touch CDMA General] adeyo:
herolite vs cupcake

I think cupcake is faster, not by much...my herolite just lags a little, probably b/c there are six homescreens w/ some extra widgets running...dialer etc seem to lag a little compared to cupcake.

**note, i didn't try the new cupcake that mssmison uploaded, i am referring to my current herothemed cupcake that was on the google page he did a week or two ago.
[Touch CDMA General] myshinynewtouch:
thanks adeyo, are you on a cdma network or gsm ? i am with sprint and wanted to find out if sprint people are facing problems like some posters reported.
[Touch CDMA General] canyoufindben:
Has anyone got the Hero Full 2.0 to run on an Alltel Vogue? :( If so, what was your steps/setup? I get are infinite loops. I'm pretty good at troubleshooting, but not being a dev myself, I've come up against all I can accomplish. I have successfully got to the setup screen of zenulator's Hero build. Is there hope from there?

P.S. In default.txt my panel type = 1 if that makes any difference.
[Touch CDMA General] TheKartus:
I am going to test herofull on a Verizon Vogue but even from hero lite its noticeably slower than the themed cupcake build. I may just switch back to that since I'm impatient waiting for my calendar and messages to open... even though I like the apps themselves so much better.
[Touch CDMA General] craig0r:
The lack of data on anything but Bell is really frustrating. Especially since data was working for me in the beta builds. Wonder what happened... I might be wrong, but I'm fairly sure that Telus and Bell's networks are practically identical, so I would think that something that's specific to Bell has been entered somewhere.
[Touch CDMA General] zahnza:
Was able to boot into Hero2 Full and switch the default launcher. Gonna try booting into herolite. *crosses fingers*
[Touch CDMA General] TheKartus:
I had a data connection on my Verizon Vogue
[Touch CDMA General] canyoufindben:
I don't know about "Verizon" proper, but Alltel - now - Verizon has always ignored the Username Password and APN info. It didn't matter what I put in there, it would always have a data connection.
[Touch CDMA General] Pandemic187:
I'm getting an infinite loop for bootup on Hero 2.0 Full. Does it matter which zImage I use?
[Touch CDMA General] craig0r:
Alright, I've finally got Full2 (2.5, i suppose) up and running. I can confirm that data is not working on Telus, but I will investigate this as best I can.

Also, mssmison, I am still getting the "SD card missing" in the music app (although I'm on my sdhc card again.)

The hero-black build from zenulator doesn't have this issue, however it doesn't actually "play" the songs. I can browse the library though, which is further than your build gets on my phone.

Is anyone else able to use the Music app in mssmison's build? Please post if you are on Full or Lite, and if your card is standard or sdhc. thx
[Touch CDMA General] tatnai:
If you have gotten previous Android builds to work on your SD card, I don't think you need to format it if you are trying this for the first time. I think you just need to follow the other directions and wait a long-a$$ time WITHOUT TOUCHING YOUR PHONE on first boot. Worked for me after multiple failures, without formatting.
[Touch CDMA General] Pandemic187:
Did yours attempt to boot up multiple times? Because mine keeps going back to the first screen.
[Touch CDMA General] thoughtlesskyle:
mind did the HTC screen, then the Hero screen then kept switching between the 2
[Touch CDMA General] akyboy:
same problem here,...
[Touch CDMA General] aven_soulgazer:
Put the stylus in the reset hole then boot back into android without changing the files and see if that gets you past the infinite loop. If not format the card, reload the files and try again. You do have the initrd listed with the hero system right? You have to use that initrd file.

I only see 2, I don't think 2.5 is released yet. Have no room on my tiny sd card to try music unfortunately.
[Touch CDMA General] akyboy:
Ill be waiting to see responses on 2.5 if its out today. if not bck to cupcake with hero theme,...
[Touch CDMA General] Pandemic187:
Yes, that is the initrd I'm using. After attempting to boot up twice, mine locks up completely.
[Touch CDMA General] myshinynewtouch:
can anyone post the files of hero lite or latest hero themed on a google code site.... seriously, i am dying to get back home and try these out and right now, am sitting at work and hitting F5 like a thousand times on the last page just to read wat other commenters have posted... cant wait.. have to hold on... someone, pls help...
[Touch CDMA General] tallnerd1985:
Hey guys, the infinite loop is a problem with your default.txt file, please append this line of code when you open the default.txt file with wordpad(Not notepad cause it wont segment the lines correctly). After that, it should boot up fine because I used to have the same problem myself.

"lcd.density=160"

Change the width to 320 and height to 480 and that should do the trick.
[Touch CDMA General] canyoufindben:
Aven... I tried rebooting after the loop, both SD and SDHC, all files from mediafire, 7/27 zImage, Defaut.txt board type 1, 320x420x160. I've tried formatting and trying again. And again. And again. My last resort now is to boot zenulator's and then try to boot mssmison's. Got zenulators up with only one issue - no data connection. 3G icon is there, but it don't work. So now I'm in winmo waiting for my poor battery to recover, and then I'll try to use the data.img from zenulator to see if mssmison's will boot.

If someone else gets to it before me, let us know.

P.S. The rogers build sticks on the infinite loop for me too.
[Touch CDMA General] aven_soulgazer:
Do you have an email address it can be sent to? I don't know how to work a google code page to upload, not sure why mssmison didn't chose to use google code. I also don't want to be uploading his work without permission. Do you have the initrd for his hero builds?

What happens after you reboot after the infinite loop? Another infinite loop or do you get the force quit errors?

I don't think I had a single problem getting rogers running but I haven't tried version 2 of it.

I will post a data image without my google info to share to see if people can use it to get Hero booted up with less problems. What is a good upload site for me to post to?
[Touch CDMA General] craig0r:
I have some somewhat good news.

I've been doing some network testing in Full2. Guess what? The network actually works, the issue seems to be DNS. If I put google.ca's IP address into the Android browser, google comes up just fine (a little slow, however.)

I've sent mssmison some info, and will keep digging around myself, but hopefully this means a solution can be found sooner rather than later.
[Touch CDMA General] mssmison:
I'm not using google code for this build because I don't consider it to be nearly complete nor stable.

My updated themed build with a new launcher, new phone and new messaging app will be uploaded to the google code page and kept updated there.
[Touch CDMA General] aven_soulgazer:
Since internet works fine for me with the lite version and the first full, just not the full2, so I think something got mistakenly changed or left out. Could be wrong.
[Touch CDMA General] craig0r:
Just heard from mssmison. Apparently it's a small fix that he will take care of and upload later today. I suppose I'll use Lite for now.

I know I said earlier I didn't want to use the the Full version anymore, but with the latest release it's a LOT faster. Kudos, mssmison, I'm actually floored by how much more responsive Full2 is. Now if my SD card would just show up in the Music app...
[Touch CDMA General] TheKartus:
I have full running no problem now. Just a little slow, but usable once it gets caught up after the beginning load. If only we could flash this it would be awesome.

EDIT: I take back what I said about it being a little slow, its actually very slow. But its also very awesome and much cooler than the normal Android build.
[Touch CDMA General] canyoufindben:
Righto. I get infinite loop. I reboot, then get another infinite loop. I'm actually starting to hum the chime in our head.
[Touch CDMA General] craig0r:
A recent post in the Android ROM thread (either from vilord or derek, i can't recall) indicates that they've got Android onto the internal memory, but they're still working some errors out.

So that day could be coming up real soon!
[Touch CDMA General] TheKartus:
Awesome. If they can get it to work I'd have to force myself to ignore my warranty and flash the phone.

Forgot to mention that I also am running the big digital clock and it runs fine, animations and all without weather or data.
[Touch CDMA General] aven_soulgazer:
Clear the default or put homeswitcher.apk in your AndroidApps folder and you'll be able to chose between the touchflo and the regular (lite/ion) home. That way you can get it up to speed when you want, or switch over to show off the fanciness that is touchflo.

Are you on the Vogue? As long as the default parameters are correct and you have the right files I'm at a loss. Are you using an SDHC card? Some people haven't been able to get those to work but got a regular sd card to work on the same phone.

Anyone still having issues with getting herofull2 running? I want to try giving them my blank data image and see if their phone will then boot into the system
[Touch CDMA General] KERKEDAGAIN:
There's your problem..make sure its 480 not 420. I just tested it cuz I wanted to see what would happen if I changed it to 428 (being that I hate how 480 looks) and when I did i got the infinite loop. Make sure it's 320x480
[Touch CDMA General] akyboy:
zenulator build woks fine,... just put files boot, i am up and running
[Touch CDMA General] canyoufindben:
I have 2 Alltel Vogues, both of them from when Alltel first started selling them. I've tried both SD and SDHC. Every Move I make I mirror it on the other card/phone combo.
[Touch CDMA General] mssmison:
Hey guys I'm going to put focus back on the rogers and donut for new builds, and continue to work on my themed build full time.

We've done great work getting hero working and I really appreciate all your guys help but the next upload will be the last hero build from me for a while. Zenulators is working great and he's going to continue to optimize and develop his and I'm just too busy with the other builds.. I'm really impressed with how well he's done. Give it a try. Thanks everyone for your patience in trying my build out though. I appreciate it.

Zenulators hero thread
[Touch CDMA General] mrkite38:
Just to add to the body of information, I have Full2 running on Verizon XV6900. I am running off a class 4 sdhc card. I had to wait a _very_ long time for the first load, subsequent runs have been much faster. The music app says my sdcard is missing.

Also, someone covered it a few posts back, but it's really easy to miss 320x-->428<-- in default.txt. I did and had the infinite loop. As soon as that got changed, things were all good.
[Touch CDMA General] TheKartus:
Is your 2.5 going to make it run faster? Is his any faster? The speed is really the only issue with either one. Everything else is great after you get it to boot.
[Touch CDMA General] aven_soulgazer:
What features in cupcake are you wanting to get onto the touch?

I suppose that the htc flash player is too embedded in other sense ui stuff to be able to pull it out for other builds isn't it? The new contacts with facebook I'm on the fence about. I'd just like to be able to say "I have flash, do you" to these Iphone fanboys I know that tell me the Iphone is the only way to go for a new phone.
[Touch CDMA General] canyoufindben:
IT WORKS!!!

Indeed! Thank you MRKITE, KERKEDAGAIN, and AVEN. I'm now sitting and waiting for herofull 2.0 to load with an SDHC. Two waits, One Force Close (which I am not touching) and still waiting. Further than I've gotten. I guess it can not be emphisized enough. 320x480 not 420 or 428 from the themed build.

On a side note, when I wasn't able to get FullHero2.0 to load, I was able to load zenulator's build, and then switch to FullHero2.0 and worked. At that point, in Browser domain names didn't work, but IP addresses did. I hope this helps others with the infinite loop and similar Alltel/Verizon Vogues.:D
[Touch CDMA General] Pandemic187:
I got Hero 2.0 to load up, but the only thing I see on screen is the notification bar...? Weird. Gonna try zenulator's build now...
[Touch CDMA General] craig0r:
Make sure you do NOT click on the "Force Close" message that pops up. Just wait... and wait... and wait, and eventually you'll see the Language Selection screen behind the error mesage, THEN you can click "Force Close."
[Touch CDMA General] mssmison:
little faster not alot. With touchflow enabled anyway. The herolite is the fastest.
[Touch CDMA General] myshinynewtouch:
i will be waiting for ur hero themed builds mssmison - hate to loose u on the hero builds, but zenulator is also doing good and i would love speedy builds with all the cool stuff of heroo... hope u have a wonderful vacation over the next couple of days..
[Touch CDMA General] TheKartus:
The only real advantage I see to any hero build is all the widgets and stuff that makes it slower. :( I'll have to settle for now. Thanks msmision.
[Touch CDMA General] craig0r:
There's a different set of apps too, so even if you run the Lite version with no HTC widgets, you still get things like facebook syncing with your contacts, the HTC Music player, smart dialer... and I think the Lite version is pretty much as fast as the regular Ion builds.
[Touch CDMA General] jamezelle:
set resilution to 320x480 and lcd.density to 160
[Touch CDMA General] mssmison:
2.5 build being uploaded to the mediafire page. Network works just fine. already started again on the themed build, looking very good and a little more heroish, with all the speed we want :)

Should be uploaded tonight. Will put it the themed update on googlecode but the hero builds won't be on googlecode because they are too unstable. Rogers as well will stay on mediafire until it's stable.
[Touch CDMA General] TheKartus:
That sounds awesome. Is there anyway of getting the nice hero clock or other widgets put onto the hero themed build or is that not possible? Or just moving the dialer apk? I don't know about these things so it may be a silly question.
[Touch CDMA General] NarSan:
mssmison can you tell us whats is changed on hero 2.5 version?

What working, and whats don't work.
[Touch CDMA General] mssmison:
hero 2.5 is up now. browser works 100%. it's a little more tweaked. Basically everything but sd card. (I'd still like to do a 2.5.1 with sd card support though) It runs faster than the previous ones for sure.
[Touch CDMA General] tatnai:
Any chance we can get the hero album program on the hero themed ion build? I think the facebook/flckr portion is a huge advancement to pic sharing. contacts app is nice too. noticed the HTC email added to the mediafire build. TIA, appreciate all the hard work.
[Touch CDMA General] NarSan:
what about contacts from Sim cards?
[Touch CDMA General] Pandemic187:
I was wondering that as well.
[Touch CDMA General] KERKEDAGAIN:
Dloading 2.5 right now n can't wait to get it going! I would like to move that you make the 2.5.1 w/ sd card support..twould be greatly appreciated
[Touch CDMA General] canyoufindben:
Network Outage

This will probably not apply to most of you, but Verizon/Alltel is experiencing a nationwide network outage. So if you are on that network and your data doesn't work, you may be a victim of this problem. Probably doesn't have anything to do with mssmison's build.