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[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Slothie:
Welcome back Biker1. Sorry to hear about your disk drive. Hopefully you didn't loose to much important stuff.

I have uploaded Outlook Importer and ACR HD to the front page if your still champing at the bit to test them. I'm sort of stalled a little on the ACR HD so I have uploaded it for those that would like to contribute their ideas/comments but it is far from finished to you might need to edit some options directly from the registry.

PS if I have forgotten anyone who has posted lately please forgive me but I have been busy trying to get these two app to a state that people might be able to use them.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Biker1:
Thanks Slothie. I didn't lose anything that was important. Just took hours to download everything I needed. The new OS software downloaded in minutes though. Really fast.

Regarding ACR HD, I would like to download and test it. My question is if ACR HD, at this stage, is reliable regarding its recording ability? as I need some of my calls recorded.

v1.2.2 is running great. I may have v1.2.1 running. I gotta check.

EDIT: I just read about ACR HD regarding being written for The HD. I guess I won't be testing it.

Slothie, I know you were working on a different interface. How is that coming along?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] abiis:
welcome back Biker1 :)

hi Slothie i hope you didnt forgot what i send it for you :)

10x
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Slothie:
I'm not really sure yet. But If its working ok it shouldn't take long to churn out a SD or 240 pixel width version. Its just a matter of scaling the images and tweaking a few numbers.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Slothie:
Did you not get my email?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Biker1:
The thumbnail looks very nice.

My Diamond is 640x480. I assume that I can use ACR HD. As per your previous description, you mentioned it is for the HTC HD or 480 resolution?

I see you mentioned 240 pixel, but I am 480 pixel, which is why I ask.

If I can use ACR HD, is the recording reliable at this point?

Thanks.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Biker1:
Thanks for the welcome back.

I missed my daily "fix" of xda :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] gf.greg:
hi there, am using 1.2.2 at the moment which is working rely well. I must say that the HD version is looking very promising. I did try to use it but I couldn't get it to run so far.... stuck on the "analysing data" window. I couldstill open the options Windows which I can tell will be a great improvement. one question, what is the function of the contacts window? when I select a name in the list I get the icon of a microphone?

thanks again for a great application.

G.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] bslim:
Same here. I am using HTC HD Hellnasty x0.01 build 23502 rom, HD0.01 error at "analysing data".:confused:
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Slothie:
@Biker I wrote it to suit 480x800 but it might work on a 480x680 screen. I might have to adjust the form that plays the calls though but that’s easy enough. As to the recording being reliable well it’s pretty much the same application under the hood. As you know ACR is two parts, the background process that does the actual catching of the calls and records them. And the options process, this just writes the settings to the registry for the first process. Well in ACR HD it’s the same except I made a small change to the background thread where it will now lookup the contact after the call and if the contact is marked as record (A mic next to it in the Contacts form) then ACR will keep the call. The Options Process has changed the most, hopefully its ‘finger friendly’ as in the forms should slide with a flick of the finger.

@gf.greg Do you have heaps of calls in your folder?

@abiis Mate have you tried using GSM6.10 instead? It sounds like you are under water but the strange thing is the first part of the call sounded ok? Do you have fast sleep enabled on your device? (Does the screen turn off while you are in a call)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Biker1:
@Slothie, thanks for the explanation. I have a question regarding the change you mentioned here >

"I made a small change to the background thread where it will now lookup the contact after the call and if the contact is marked as record (A mic next to it in the Contacts form) then ACR will keep the call."

If there are contacts without the "mark," will the calls still be recorded?

In other words, I just have a few contacts that I don't want to record, like Family. The others can be recorded although I delete 99.9% of the recordings.

It would be easier for me to mark the contacts I don't want recorded as it is only a handful, then to mark 100's that are ok to record.

Unless I misunderstood the way marking the contacts work.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Slothie:
No they won't be recorded. Unless you count the LastCall file which is always there regardless of which options you choose. I have the intention of including two buttons in the setting page that will mark all record and unmark all. And also change the choose state from On/Off to On/Off/Ask but I'm about to start a pretty big job soon and my time will be limited. So since I have promised a few people versions of Outlook Importer and ACR HD I have uploaded 'what's been done so far'. True to murphy's law I left it until the last weekend I have and of course I've had a migrane all weekend.

I'll look into the 'analysing data' problem tonight and hopefully come up with something soon. Might be because they are no calls in the call folder?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Biker1:
Thanks Slothie.

I will keep the version I am using for now, as I would need almost any contact I now have to be recorded, as well as callers that are not in my Contact List. I thought there would be a setting that would give you the option of not to record certain Contacts?

As it seems now, any Contact you would want to be recorded, would have to be checked. That could be in the 100's. I still think I am misunderstanding something. Regarding the 2 settings you are working on, if for instance, the All Record was active, one can then have an Exception List of contacts. And if the No Record Option was chosen, there could be an Exception List to that also. Just thinking out loud.

But anyway, good luck on your big job :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] gf.greg:
following what's been said in latest posts:

re. problem of being stuck at "analysing data", no I don't have heaps of calls, only 27 are currently stored in the acr folder... or perhaps it's too much?

Also, regarding the new "contacts" option where we can select which ones to be recorded, I can see what the original idea was, but I'm not sure if It's so practical in the end, if you don't mind me saying. the thing is, you never know if a call is worth saving until It's done. even from people that are notlikely to be recorded, like usual familly members, perhaps they are going to give me an address or number, and I'm in no position to write it down, well that's where ACR is just perfect. so I would say that the option of being asked at the end id the call is pretty much the best option. the only down side isthat it can interfere with the phone as it does take quite a few seconds to display at the end of the call. so I just end up recording everything and cleaning the acr folder every now and then. simple is the best.thenew design of the interface is def the way forward, with ability to browse calls in nice and clear list with main details, but like i said, not so sure about contacts...... thanks for your help as always! i still think that your Acr application is one of the most truly useful ones out there on xda.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] abiis:
yes i have fast sleep enabeld and no i didnt try gsm 6.10 i am on pcm i will try it
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Slothie:
@gf.greg Sorry I’ll blame my headache from the other day for my not explaining myself properly. I said I intended to add two buttons to mark all the contacts as “record” or Don’t Record” but I did mean to say that I was going to change that to three. On the contacts page I am going to change it from switching to and from recording be on for the contact to On/Off/Ask. Meaning it will switch between three states.

So take your first contact for example, click on it once and it will be “record” so when this contact calls it will record the call. Switch it again and it will not record for that contact. But switch it yet again and it will ask you after the call whether you wish to keep the call. Switch it again and it will go back to the first state of “record”. Ok I hope that’s as clear as mud for you (yes I still have a headache)

Also you might want to consider the Outlook Importer if you use Outlook. Then you can just record everything and let archiving take care of everything later for you. This is what I do.

@abiss Yeah try it with GSM6.10 as you are using a HD, same as me. Also use 48000 samples and 16 bits per channel. Hopefully between that and turning off the fast sleep you might have more success?

@Biker1 Mate once I include the two buttons all you will have to do is go to the settings page and press the button you want and it will loop through all the contact and mark them for you.

Oh well at least no one has any problems with the Importer..... yet.

Edit: Just updated the ACR HD version and hopefully that will fix your issue with it getting stuck in a loop guys. Also Biker it should now work for your res of 480x640 too.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] freaknormel:
Hi, I know this question was asked before in this thread, but i couldnt find it.

is it possible to save the calls like ddmmyy

by example 15072009 for 15 th of july 2009 ?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] gf.greg:
What can I say, it sounds perfect then! Many thanks for your explanation and hard work. All the best, I hope you get rid of the sodding headache...

Best,

G.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] gf.greg:
Ok, I've tried to run the latest version cab, and here's what happens:

I start the app, it opens ok, then runs the "analysing data" process for 2 seconds, then it hangs and I get an error message which I've attached here in case it helps.... Not sure what or why, it's beyond my knowledge I'm afraid. Perhaps something is messed up in my reg for some reason...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Biker1:
@Slothie

"So take your first contact for example, click on it once and it will be “record” so when this contact calls it will record the call. Switch it again and it will not record for that contact. But switch it yet again and it will ask you after the call whether you wish to keep the call. Switch it again and it will go back to the first state of “record”. Ok I hope that’s as clear as mud for you (yes I still have a headache)"

Regarding your above statement ^, sounds really nice, as there are just a few numbers that I don't want to record.

The "looping" feature will be a nice timesaver.

I will be downloading ACR HD alittle later to check things out.

Thanks for the 480x640 res :)

Take some ALEVE for that Headache (aka Naproxyn Sodium)

Works Great for PAIN.

Thanks for your hard work. Much Appreciated ;)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Biker1:
I received an ACR HD .exe exception error.

I downloaded ACR HD and I got the processing screen with the green animation on black background (very nice.)

I then got an exception error page re the .exe

and something about Outlook.

I first disabled v1.2.1 before downloading ACR HD.

I will reinstall v1.2.1

Please let me know how to proceed with ACR HD

Thanks.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Biker1:
I received the same error. See post above ^

I also deleted the registry from v1.2.1 and still received the same error.

But when I attempted to dowload ACR HD for the second time, a "Previous ACR HD exists" message popped up and asked me if I want to install the new one. I assume that ACR HD is creating its own Registry separate from v1.2.1
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Slothie:
Thanks gf.greg/Biker I've updated ACR HD again. Hopefully it will get rid of the problem for you. I bit the bullet and hard reset my HD so I could test properly and it worked for me. One thing though, when it starts you should set the File Path first and exit then start again. Anyway thanks again for posting. The screen shot told me exactly where to look, well it cut it down anyway.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Biker1:
Will try again in a short while.

Depends if I fall asleep or not.

Your a better man than I for doing a hard reset :eek:
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Biker1:
1) "PROCESSING DATA" now..................................

Taking its time. Must be a lot to process :)

Maybe I should abort? Been over a minute..............

2) 2 minutes and I got a Phone Icon with an outgoing arrow, and a faintly lit sentence I can't make out......................

3) I pressed settings, got a window with the bits setting, etc, then hit it again and got the path so I exited and entered again. Waiting again...........

4) OK. I entered the path I want. I hit OK. I hit options and contacts and saw the contacts list. I don't see "Enable" or "Disable" regarding Recording though.

5) I am now changing the Path just for naming purposes.

**Only the Last Call being saved.. I check my folder and only the "Last Call" is there. All previous calls are not there.

Also, on the ACR HD home screen, after I press Options, it says Samples per Second, Sound Codec, Bits per Channel with + - on either side, and the Value of each.

When I try to scroll down, I get horizontal Red Lines. As if there is supposed to be more settings there but are not? Maybe the Format or something like that is off?I have "Options" on the lower left and "Calls" on the lower right.

On the Top, it says" ACR HD" on the upper left and "Directory to Save Files to" underneath.

Sorry as I don't know how to post screen shots as I am an Idiot :(

I do have the "Shake & Save" program, so I will try to shoot you some screen pics Slothie.

I posted a blow by blow to Confuse the **** outta Everyone :eek:

Nah, I did it so others could see if ACR HD was loading correctly on their devices, and also to let them know that if there was a delay, it was Normal, I think.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Biker1:
Done for the nite, probably ?

Slothie, I'll send pics later on.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] freaknormel:
Can somebody please give an answer for post #445

I know you guyz are realy busy with other things.. But i really need this.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Biker1:
Let me take a look, as I don't need any sleep :(

I'm like White Castle.............24 Hour Service.

I checked post #445 and I'm not sure of the answer. I don't know if a registry can be changed to switch the format?

I'm going to bed as it is 4:49am here in NYC.

@Slothie

Screen shots were sent as promised.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Slothie:
Why would you need this?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] vorob:
Guys, seems you didn’t heard me. When I restart my phone, at loading screen I see error message that this software itn’t proper thing. So I have to launch it later by myself. Any help on this?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] vorob:
Well, because in normal part of the world we have logical order of date, at first the day, then month and then year. Similar to time clock, not crappy AM/PM stuff just 24 hour day :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Biker1:
What part of the World would this be?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] smotrs:
Heh, yeah, gotta be European date stamp, not US time stamp. From a different stand point, the better way to store it would be the following, Year, Month, Day. This way, depending on how many recordings and how old they are they will chronologically always be in the order of oldest to newest simply because of the way the format works.

For instance, let's say you have recordings from 2009 as well as recordings from 2008, whether you us the US or European timestamp, the files will be jumbled together like the following,

US timestamp

100809120000 <- Oct 8th 2009 12pm

100810120000 <- Oct 8th 2010 12pm

110809120000 <- Nov 8th 2009 12pm

European timestamp

081009120000 <- Oct 8th 2009 12pm

081010120000 <- Oct 8th 2010 12pm

081109120000 <- Nov 8th 2009 12pm

Unix timestamp

091008120000 <- Oct 8th 2009 12pm

091108120000 <- Nov 8th 2009 12pm

101008120000 <- Oct 8th 2010 12pm​

As you can see from both the US and European examples, it's easy for files to be jumbled together based on Name simply because of how numbers are sorted. Whereas the last example would properly order them by Name as well as Date. No matter how many or how old your files are.

Anyway, just a thought.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Slothie:
Where is the 'normal' part of the world would you store dates as anything other than 'date serial' in a filename? Files stored in yyyy-mm-dd-hh-mm-ss sort themselves into cronalogical order when they are stored by filename. (ABC) As smotrs stated the files don't order themselves otherwise.

I'm not having a shot at anyone, I just wanted to know if freaknormel had a valid reason for making me recompile the program just for him. (Which I don't mind doing if its anything other than 'I like it this way')

@vorob Mate what phone are you using would help? But I have seen something like this before and the person just deleted the shortcut in the startup folder for ACR and started the program manually after he reset the phone.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Biker1:
@Slothie

I downloaded v1.2.1 again, due to the issues I was having with ACR HD.

From the screen shots I emailed you, can you tell if the issues are device (Diamond) related?

Btw, I like v1.2.1 because the calls are logged into the path I created (Internal storage/calls) with the name first and then the date.

Having the name as the first reference serves me well when I am searching for a recorded call.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] fran_cure:
One question to Slothie

Hello from Barcelona.

First thanks for this soft, it could perfect for me if one problem could be solved.

Me and 2 friends more have your app installed. Two of us with HD Blackstone, and the other friend in a Touch3G.

All three have the same problem:

-Very very very often the ACR self-dissable the call recording. I think that is every time we do "sincronize" wit our computer. I'm not 100% sure if is when we sincronize, but I think so. Because it happens several times every day. What we found is that the ACR dissable the call recording. So several times we must remember to open ACR and push the button "enable recording".

Sometimes when i made a sincro, I have some error messages in my HD with the text: calnot.exe, clocknot.exe, etc. Maybe there is a relation between that mistake and the loosing of "enable record" in ACR?

That is problem, because sometimes you don't remember to do it and you have a call, and that is the call tha you should like to record, (murphy's law) but because ACR is not enable, you miss it.

In my job I have a craddle and the phone is continuisly syncronizing with the computer, I need to sincro very often. Because I go out an In the office a lot of times everday.

I can imagine that a lot of people should have this problem too.

We have instaled the last version 1.2.3. And I removed the old version following the instructions, removing it also from the register.

I have a HD with the oficial rom 6.1

Kind regards.

Cure
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] freaknormel:
Bullseye

West europe

@slothie:

If its not much work for you, i would be glad to have it.. My explorer shows only first 5 charachters, so now i only see 09-10

so i dont know from which day it is, because it isnt shown

Like i Said, if its not much work, i would be glad to have it. Otherwise its a perfect - complete FAR above professional program, i have nothing to add to it
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Slothie:
@fran_cure G’day Mate! I don’t really have a direct answer for you I’m sorry, we’ll just have to go through the motions as this is the first time this has come up believe it or not. Anyway I added code to stop the OS from closing ACR quite some time ago so we can kind of scratch off the OS closing the application. The OS would normal send a Close message to the application based on the usage and other stuff I don’t really understand. Once the OS gets to a certain point where sending Close messages does not work the OS will start to unload processes by send Kill messages of which I cannot really do anything about.

If you have read anything in all these posts you may have come across me trying to explain how ACR works but I do a simple summary for you now. ACR has two processes, one that handles the Options and such and another that handles the actual task of trapping calls and recording. If you use something to view the processes running on your device (I serious recommend you find something for this as you’ll need it to solve your problem) you will see a process ‘ACRBase.exe’. This is the background process that traps the calls and records the phone calls. If this process is being killed by the OS as you claim then I can only see one reason for it. You don’t have enough memory available.

So what I would like you to do is start monitoring the amount of memory your device is using during the day and also at the time that you are getting the errors you are describing above. I suspect you might have a memory leak which is leading to the errors you are getting. Sadly the OS is trying to provide more memory to these processes so it ends up sending a Kill message to ACR. But the device is not in my hand so I’m only guessing here.

If it was my device I would be hard resetting it as both Calnot and Clocknot are system OS processes. But for some that’s not really the best way to attack the problem. I am not recommending this especially if you have bucket loads of apps and such that would take forever to reinstall.

@freaknormel Seems a good enough reason to me. But have a think about what we said as I’m only doing this once. If you can only see five characters and you list them like dd_mm_yy_etc they will not sort in chronological order. Maybe you would be better off with mm_dd_etc and drop the year altogether (it’s in the files timestamp anyway) with the month first? Listing like this with only five characters will still list it in chronological order still. Anyway I’m forty stories up on a construction site at the moment so there’s no chance of me doing this for you at the today. Also please note if you use this version you will not be able to use the Outlook Importer. I doubt you use it but I thought it best to mention it as I’m sure others will download this altered version as well as yourself.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] smotrs:
Slothie, what about a way for the user to configure the date format themselves? That way every body can set it up the way they want. Even if it's simply a TXT file the user modifies by rearranging the yymmddhhmmss values to what suits their needs.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] fran_cure:
Slothie.

Thanks for your answer I will try to follow your suggestions.

If I solve it I will explain here how I made it.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Slothie:
Yeah the thing is the application itself is very dependant on date data and then there is the sharing of date data between the Device and the PC. I intend to add the feature but I've had zero experience writting applications that have had to work with more than one date/language type before and I guess I'm being lazy but every time I think about it I groan and think 'ok thats going in last'.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] smotrs:
haha, totally understand Slothie. :)