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[Touch HD Accessories] tnyynt:
Not that I want to blow anyone's bubble here, but been using the HD since it came out with no screen protector whatsoever and till now there's not a single hairline scratch on the screen. Using the pouch that came with it though and doing nothing special, not even cleaning the screen (hand and face grease) makes it a bit slippery and it actually protects better than having a shiny, "dry" and clean screen. That's my experience with it.

As for the question, every screen protector reduces the screen sensitivity by a bit. A thick or solid screen protector will reduce it considerably/completely since it will not allow the foils of the touchscreen to be connected and register input.
[Touch HD Accessories] -Matt-:
Yes, the tungsten T was touchscreen,

...and I'm not concerned about small scratches on the screen. I'm sure that the disposable thin plastic screen protectors are easily up to the job for that. Rather, I am worried (for example) that I might bang my leg on the corner of a table with the touch HD in my pocket. This could easilly smash the screen. Since I have signed up to a two year contract with this phone I want to give it the best possible chance of survivng that long.

You both seem to have missed the point a bit. The screen protector is removed when you are actually using the device. It can be unclipped and attached to the back of the device for temporary storage.

Since the screen protector is removed from the screen whilst in use there is absolutely no reduction in screen sensitivity.

However the tough polycarbonate cover means the screen is completely protected whilst the device is in your pocket.

The thing looked like this for the Tungsten T.. obviously the cover would have to be specifically molded to whichever device.

Cover clipped on front:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] vapor:
Anyone found one for the TP2? Preferably one that does not require a different back cover.

Thank you.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] leginag:
A second question I'd ask is:

If you've got the Euro or Asian version of the phone, are the Sprint/AT&T extended batteries and accessories compatible with the overseas models of the phone?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] powersquad:
I am buying this. @ 2800mAh this thing is going to make the TP2 mint. And this vendor is really good and reliable. Tracyandmatt.co.uk bought one for their Touch Diamond 2 which is 2200mAh and they have had no problems with their phone. You get a new back cover for the TP2 with the battery for the price. New back cover is not as flash as the original but hey, much better battery.

http://www.superetrader.co.uk/extended-battery-2800mah-for-htc-touch-pro-p-5298.html
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] daveke0201:
the new cover is realy ugly. i wouldn't buy it. its to ugly
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] duckie38:
Take a look at this site, maybe it is something to use with your tp2.

http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/nl/p_htc_item.aspx?i=179436
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] vapor:
My main concern with a change in battery cover is the sound quality for the speaker phone.

Any personal experience?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] skycamefalling:
I highly doubt the 2800mAh for this battery. It's simply too cheap to be good. A really good battery with all the electronics inside and a high energy density which is shipped with a backcover should at least cost about 50(EUR) to be cost-effective for the manufacturer -otherwise there have never been engineering thinking and technological knowledge which would reduce the costs but the quality too.

Of course, you can try it and maybe it's better than the original one (it's bigger anyway) but I, personally, would never use it for my phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] wejergang:
I have just ordered the 2800mAh battery I'll give you guys a full review of it when receiving it, including any effects on the rear speaker sound quality.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] gunggu:
well, i've been buying some of this chinese product, you might say some are good, some are bad. and yes, cost for chinese manufacturer is very cheap, i really mean it, very cheap....especially its labor cost....

i bought the same product from ebay, for 27 US free shipping, will give review when it come.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] skycamefalling:
Yeah, I would like to read a review about the extended batteries.

Maybe you have the possibility to check the milliamps hour (mAh) with a device, to see if it really has the 2800 [mAh] the manufacturer states :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Vatumb:
Am the New User of Windows Mobile Phone, this was my First time when i have some Windiown Mobile Phone.

Previously am Using Nokia.

So am little bit cinfused. Form where to Download themes for my HTC touch HD

i saw so many thread which has themes but don,t know which One Suite to mt HD ROM.

I saw some Manila theme, Tf3d theme. Don,t know what is manil and which ver i have.

So please help to find some themes for my Phone.

My Phone version and ROM is mention in my Signature
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Vatumb:
Help me Guys
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ozmoran:
The screen you see with the tabs etc is TF3D it depends on what ROM your on you can do search in XDA or Google to learn more then you can research Themes search search it is your friend
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Vatumb:
Thanks for the reply..

I searhed about the themes and try them on my phone, but none of them working.

Son,t know which manila version i have

HTC Touch HD

ROM Ver. : 1.18.707.3 (23358) WWE

ROM Date: 12/10/08

Radio Ver.: 1.09.25.14
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] knight900:
Files inside TF3D is called or named, Manila, so you need to know what version of TF3D you are using. Go to your Settings Tab, then About and you can see what version of TF3D you are using.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Vatumb:
It shows Touchflow version 3.0

so which themes are avalable for this phone

kindly provide some links
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Digital Outcast:
Moved to Themes, Applications and Software forum.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Vatumb:
Thanks For Moving the Thread :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Vatumb:
Help Me guys
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] jakobdam:
Hey,

I definitely understand your confusion. I'm absolutely no newcomer to Windows Mobile, but I was pretty baffled when I arrived here after a few years gone. :)

Let's see if I help you somewhat...

You're the right place now - this forum where your thread here has been moved to, is the place for HTC Touch HD.

You propably use Manila v2.0, which means that themes for Manila v2.1 and v3, are not compatible with your device.

BUT!

First off, you should take a look at giving your phone a new ROM.

The kitchen cooks for TouchHD here on xda, are FABOLOUS! Right now, your Touch HD is slow as hell. Try and swipe the menus. Notice the lags. Enter the application pane. Swipe up and down. See?

The kitchen cooked ROMs in here, replaces the one you have - and gives you up to 20x faster performance (no kidding, and no exhaggeration).

I myself, use Laurentius26 v3.55 (www.laurentius26.net -- you have to become member of his website to download the rom, but it's all free, so don't worry).

Most people like Dutty's ROMs also - they're great too!

No matter what you choose, I promise you'll feel that your Touch HD has transformed into a speed monster. Especially in the menus!

Oh yeah - and as a side dish, you get the newest version of Manila and TouchFlo3D. Personally, I think that the version in the Laurantius26-ROM that I use, is so super-duper, that I don't want to spend time looking for other themes. I have thought of designing/programming a completely new GUI myself, but I gave up, as I don't have Microsoft Visual Studio.

But you have the oppertunity if you patch with a new ROM. I highly recommend you do that first thing.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Vatumb:
But how to kNow that Which Manila I have.

You said above that i Have Manila 2.0 How to check it

And How to Updated the ROM, but there is not update of ROM in india HTC http://www.htc.com/in/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=179&act=sd&cat=all
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Fallen Spartan:
Your manila can be found by going to settings tab in TF3D and then scrolling down to 'About'

It should state something like TouchFLO 3D 2.1.38658.2. The first 2 numbers i.e. 2.1 in this case state which manila you have

There appears to be no official update from HTC for a Indian rom. You can however update to any coooked rom by using either USPL or HSPL. I'd recommend you follow this guide and read up on the wiki. Available cooked roms can be found in this forum.

EDIT

Any further queries regarding rom upgrade should be posted in this thread or thread of rom you decide to flash to.

Try and keep this thread on themes please.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Vatumb:
It show the Version Touchflo 3d 1.3.35590.0_1630.38

ANd which ROM is best for the Indian HTC HD, and is the TOuchflow 3d Ver changed after the ROM Upgrade
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Fallen Spartan:
Then you don't have manila 2.0 or 2.1.

No one can provide you with the information 'which rom is best' as every rom appeals to different people. Best thing you can do is read each rom thread and make your own conclusion. As a pointer, the most widely used roms generally cooked by the following guys:

Duttythroy, Miri, NRGZ28, Laurentius26 & kwbr.

All of the latest roms generally use manila 2.1 and either wm6.1 or wm6.5 (should say on title of each thread)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Vatumb:
Thanks for the Quick Reply.

I want to install this ROM

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=493911

[ROM][WWE][22.07.2009] Miri WM 6.5 23009 :: V 25.0 [ONLINE]

So will you help me how to start.

And after the Upgrade my Phone is Unser Warranty or NOT.

and How can i restore the Orignal ROM after the Upgrade, if i want to do that in future.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Digital Outcast:
For help on flashing the ROM, read the guide in my signature.

For how to restore the stock ROM, read this thread where it says: How to reflash Stock/Shipped SPL - STEP BY STEP - FOR WARRANTY REASONS ONLY!

Also, it will be under warranty IF you restore it before you send it back for warranty purposes. If you send it back with a custom ROM/SPL on it HTC will most likely not warranty it.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Vatumb:
Ok Suggest me which one to Install

[ROM][WWE][22.07.2009] Miri WM 6.5 23009 :: V 25.0 [ONLINE]

[ROM] [Jul 24] [Dutty's WM6.5 R8 Turbo] [CE OS 5.2.23009] ]CHANGELOG 1-5] [ONLINE]
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Digital Outcast:
I won't do that. They are two totally different ROM's with totally different features. You should try them both out and see which you prefer ;)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Vatumb:
I saw your Dummy Post.

Am not a techie person. So help me how to do that. Which MEthod is Easy
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Digital Outcast:
It really doesn't get any clearer/easier than that. That is a step-by-step guide. If you can't follow that I would suggest not flashing your device, or get someone to do it for you.

You should also read up on the Wiki. It will help you out a lot too.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] godn:
I need goldcard.img to flash my Rhodium ,my microsd id is:008200ca672360804734305553445303 ,anyone can help me,thks!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] congpay:
You might want to PM a member named cmonex bro. He's been very helpfull, one of the mastermind of hacking Win CE device :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tkalli:
cmonex is a "she."

:D

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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Black Phoenix:
Just a question (i'm sorry for the hijacking of the thread).

I had a HTC Touch Pro2 in Portuguese WM6.1 ROM. I had bought the QMAT to create a Goldcard to install the WWE ROM Signed. I want to copy the Portuguese ROM and then Install the new one. The reason is that If I need to send the Mobile to Warranty, exchange the WWE to the PT. It's possible? If yes how?

Thank you in advance.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmonex:
you will need HSPL to flash PT rom back unless you find a shipped PT rom
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Black Phoenix:
Thank you for your anwser Miss. So basically I just have to wait to get the WM6.5 since the PRO2 had the free update for the new firmware. After that I get the WWE PT ROM Signed (free from the HTC update site) as a backup. Also I get that QMAT only had 5 creations of GoldCards. So lets do some math:

Change my PT ROM to WWE ROM - 1 Goldcard;

Change my Girlfriend ROM to WWE - 1 Goldcard;

For instance both of our mobile get damaged - 2 Goldcards (one for each);

Return from service - 2 more Goldcards.

Well I get 1 missing. I presume that I need to buy another license to get more 5 Goldcards right?

This questions is just dummie yeap, I know (I know everyone saying again, "Ohhh no, another newbie...").

Yes I'm newbie, I came from Nokias and Asus (to be realistic, HTC was a last choice that I never had thinked to buy, but now after I had one I see the mistake I had made for not had bought a HTC sooner...) but I'm here to help the best I can, also learn the best I can.

Please respect that before starting to flamming me. :o

Also someone had send me a message saying simply: "I see that you have the registed QMAT, can you please give me a goldcard?"

My friend I'm sorry but no. Reason - you have only 2 posts so I see that you simply get here to get the GoldCard and flash your HTC. No contribution right? No tip to you. Also I do not get unlimited licences to Goldcards (see upper writting) and have to keep them for further problems.

Sorry beeing rude, but as you see I get here as NEW user, and bought the tool for the porpouse I want. You do not had seen me asking for a Goldcard to anyone.

I'm sorry for this offtopic, but with this offtopic everyone see what I respect. You help me, I help you the best I can. Simple and easy.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ark666:
@ Black Phoenix

You seem to be a bit confused my friend, PM me if you want, and i´ll help you with your doubts.

And for the PTG shipped rom that´s no problem.;)

Cheers.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] papo:
Switching between two separate settings for a backlight brightness based on your specified times and settings.

I am using, and tested, it on Kaiser, but should work with any htc

It include program bl05.exe (for Kaiser backlight change) which is free and all glory for it goes to Vit Lobster Bernatik (send thnx and $ to bernatikv[at]gmail[dot]com)

I am using version of Mortscript 4.2 – it’s included in cabs but not in OEM downloads. Didn't test it with prev vers

MortScript is great project and all Glory and $ for using scripts with Mortscript must go to Mortscript program author: (c) Mirko Schenk mort@sto-helit.de http://www.sto-helit.de

in OEM package, are actually 2 tools. The other is Backup and is posted separately in development forum.

Mmm if someone would be interested I would welcome any hints/bugs rep
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] dcordes:
This thread is here for information and discussion about the Linux kernel (and Linux based userspaces like Ångström distribution or google android.

If you have no clue what this is all about, click the above links and read a bit about it.

The xperia(kovsky) research information vital to porting the linux kernel is available at htc-linux.org

The kovsky is very similar to raphael, diamond and the other htc phones that are based on the QCT msm7xxxA chip. This is why the raphael/diamond development kernel code from the htc-linux project runs well on it.

Kovsky has its own machine type in the htc-msm-2.6.27 (see link above) branch now.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] theredundant:
im kinda excited about this! if linux (& android) is able to run on the X1 smoothly, I'm definitely donating! :)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] philrich1:
New thread = very good news.

If you need someone for testing then let me know.

I would be willing to donate as well.

Keep working hard everyone!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] achmed20:
somehow i feel like setting up an X1 android version for it. since im more the "script" guy im rather useless for u if it comes to kernel development ^^

how stable and functional is the kernel so far?

and especialy, is the Wifi running allready?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] cyberdesigner.net:
hey decordes,

there is the question where to get the android@xperia-dev files 0.8 and 1.0... (i have them. but dont know if i may provide these files while they are not from my self!)

a simple yes or no and they are available for the next years or not ;)

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cyberdesigner.net
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] cyberdesigner.net:
afaik the wifi doesnt work. only usb0 which is laggy. (but works! you could ssh to the x1 per default.)

i am a little bit bussy at the moment (have to provide some sap-python-mysql-interface for productive use.)

but if i get spare time i will take a closer look at wifi...

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cyberdesigner.net
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] achmed20:
kk thx.

as long i can use ssh, i'm all set up i guess :)

time for some android theory
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] NSRocket:
I don't know many things on Kaiser device but if you read somewhere that it use a TI 1251 WLAN then... yes, it's the same.

I don't understand why do you correlate wifi and android booting :confused:

We're talking about this wifi chip just because it isn't supported in the linux-htc-kovsky package at the moment.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Reversedhex:
i was reading a combination of things,

-wifi not working and usb0 laggy.

-log readout over usb0

so i thought maybe for the log or something, nevermind

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wifi not working on kaiser either so we cannot take the driver from there, but i dont think wifi has high priority...

http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser:port_status
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] achmed20:
its not related. i jsut read that the USB connection was kind of laggy so once i set up a working wifi connection i can continue working with SSH over wifi. that was the only reason.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] cyberdesigner.net:
ah... ok i think this was my intention.

most of the time i am waiting for usb0 to get any response! i cant read on the display them self... so the next needed feature for _me_ was to get a stable/responsible connection (like wifi ;)

achmed20: you got it!

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cyberdesigner.net
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] scholbert:
Hi,

very nice project. Maybe i could help out a bit :D

At least i may help testing and do some hardware discoveries, because i'm not a good kernel hacker.

Anyway i'm used to digg the kernel source and all the other stuff.

There are some questions though:

Is the git already accessible?

Maybe someone could create a patch to get started more easily ;)

What's the exact state of USB connection right now?

Does it work on Raphael?

Concerning debugging:

Anything known about JTAG on Kovksy?

As you might know i'm addicted to this interface :D

Best regards,

scholbert
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] dcordes:
http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Kernel#Kernel_for_QCT_MSM7xxxA_based_devices

The aiv code is htc-msm-2.6.27 branch plus xperia changes. I think he doesn't want to make it available publicly yet. I'm waiting for it too so I can push it to linuxtogo. You can pull the htc-msm-2.6.27 either way.

usbnet is same driver as used for raphael.

drivers/usb/msm_usb

For jtag, I think you need to wire it to the board manually.

For the raphael you can get a serial connection by making a cable that plugs in the usb port. Ask dreamkill about it. I don't know if it is wired the same way in xperia.

Hope this makes sense I have horrbile hangover :confused:
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Reversedhex:
http://www.phonewreck.com/wiki/index.php?title=Sony_Ericsson_XPERIA_X1

So what has to be done is get the linux drivers for al these hardware components and compile them to a kernel to make it fully working?

that probably ist going to be easy :p

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btw about wifi cant the driver from g1 be extracted?

same hardware G1/X1

-Power Management	PMIC: Qualcomm PM7540

-WLAN Texas Instruments WL1251B/WL1251FE

-UMTS: 2100MHz avago ACPM-7381

-USB SMSC USB3316
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] scholbert:
Hi dcordes,

thanks for your reply.

Yeah did that already.

Unfortunately right now i got no X1 for testing. Should arive the next days i suppose :D

O.K., i see so we will also use the config for raphael, i suppose..

Sure, that's essential :p

I just wanted to know if there's anyone apart from Sony and HTC engineers who got some info about these testpoints ?

That's cool!

Does make sense to me ;)

BTW anyone tried this patch to get WIFI support on X1?

http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/diffs/git-diff_htc-msm-2.6.27_add-ti1251.diff

Best regards,

scholbert
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] scholbert:
Have to quote myself :p

The patch applies fine but after having a short glimpse, this one has been extracted from the SDK. No proper Kconfigs or Makefiles :confused:

So i don't think this huge patch is intended to go into kernel tree again.

AFAIK, there's also a lot of stuff for userland inside.

Insider may know more about it!

Perhaps for WIFI on the X1 it's better to start with a more clean driver.

You make have a look here:

http://osdir.com/ml/linux-wireless/2009-02/msg00390.html

I will try to integrate the patch to current 2.6.27-msm.

There's work to do of course, e.g. SDIO support and PM.

Best regards,

scholbert
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] D4113R:
I have no idea what you guys are saying.

But Android on the Xperia is f*****g awesome!

could any1 just quickly recap how close we are on a ROM with Android? :)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Reversedhex:
though i understand just a little, id like to qoute myself on this
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] dcordes:
yes with htcraphael_defconfig xperia boots.

I will ask some people about 7xxxA jtag pins and let you know if I have any information.

Right, It copies some revision (see date of file upload) of the android git ti1251. It should enable you to build the kernel module.

lgorris=dcordes

It's no big secret the 10M google ti1251 driver is crap and it might really be better to use that wl12xx as soon as they have the SDIO.

That will be nice. Let me know when you tried.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] jkoljo:
So, am i right thinking that i can just load the linux (with android GUI included) w/haret, and it will automatically kill the wimo? Then when i reboot my phone, android will be gone and wimo fully restored? I am not a complete noob in linux world, but i have to say that i do not know much about linux in my mobile phone, gotta try!

Also, do you people commit changes to the public kernel? If, then where can i see diff & download links?

EDIT: i answer myself, it works as i thought. BUT! I tried hhennault's files and it did not work. The on-screen keyboard covered the last linux boot step message, so i do not know what went wrong. I moved the keyboard but the screen did not update, therefore did not show what went wrong.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] informatico:
Thanks for making it clear :)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] SneakyViper:
And, did it work? I tried removing /sdcard and creating a symlink from /sdcard to /mmc, but that didn't help a thing. I also tried pacman, but the flickering is really too much ;)

Now I just need a new thing to do, but I don't really know what. There are 3 things that come to mind:

Modify the kernel to get more stuff working

Create a new initrd to be able to customize more

Try to build Android
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] jkoljo:
Sorry for posting so often, but how do i disable android loading? If i want ångström (preferably with opie), do i need to get another img file or something?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] gauner1986:
Just tried the latest files and they worked flawless on my german X1.. And it's just: Oh my god.. It works.. Colors are not ugly and everything seems to be very smooth. Very good progress.