yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ironeagle:
Take out battery.. leave it for some time

Put back battery

press shift key (half black halft white key) and Enter key (exact opp side of shift key) then power key

You should see bootloader

Now Run Mirage_LV_v1.8

Select Profile ( Mirage LV image )

Select PDA and select the i780 wm65 bin file

once bin file analysis is done by mirage then Click DETECT button

Now Connect your i780 thru USB

Wait for Download to FINISH

once done then disconnect and switch on i780
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] etere:
..i'm try this new rom...

A lot of change (best finger friendly) and more bug (sms no search contact...) then 23017.

Good work!

The end is near!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] DeadOne:
Is this rom multilanguage?

Btw, there is a newer version, 23024 :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] yangzhenxing666:
we can try the new one :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dreamtheater39:
GUI still not perfect as in? Can you explain what exactly is broken? :)

Thanks a lot for your efforts m8 ;)

cheers,

San
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jerre122:
Seems that your latest rom has some issues.

- keeps getting the magnification

- when going in the menu there are some visual probs

- no more button changer?

- when phone is locked, you can still see the contacts and new sms button, so you can't see the clock.

- allot of things are out of focus, like it's all a bit to big for the screen.

- can't find the option anymore to stop automatic word completion... I must be missing something :-p

Runs fast and looks nice.

Will test some more today.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chelsea_fc:
seems the new rom built has alot of bugs, better wait new one...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Joezhang:
yeah - it seems to be a work in progress rom (on the MS side not Ironeagle's who is doing a bang-up job..)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Lasselo:
Where i can find installing tutorial?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Ne0n4t3:
Hey!

I just tried 23017 version and I find it great! The only problem so far is the mail download. I have set up mail like allways, and I can send mail, but I can't download any mail. Outlook says it is connecting and downloading mail, but than nothing happens.

I'm sorry if this problem was allready addresed elsewhere :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] survivorcard:
WLM

The windowns live messenger dont work!!

What is the problem??

Thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] parkhaus:
Fingerkeyb for i780

inertiax3 has had the famous FingerKeyb (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=501122) cooked into his ROMs.

Problem is that the 320x320 resolution is not available for installation.

Big thanks to inertiax3, he uploaded the OEM package for it here:

http://rapidshare.com/files/266168647/OEM_FngerKb_v2.1.zip.html

I still have to make an installable .cab. The skin config files are already correct in this package for the i780!

I remember using the Fingerkeyb on the i780 and it has been great!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] loser:
The ROM is smooth and fast- does have some visual bugs though still. Widget updates via Wi-fi does not seem to work. I use them a lot -
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ~~Tito~~:
Hows the progress on the beta for the i907.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dreamtheater39:
is it just me or everyone who thinks that the new versions of wm6.5 are really cheap hacks to make it finger friendly? All the combo boxes and stuff are incredibly large and ugly :(

Just didnt like how things have changed from nice and elegant.....to large and ugly :(

It has to be a skinned UI if it has to be big - to be nice. Using the same windows 3.11 interfaces with larger controls doesnt actually make it cooler in anyway. hmmm...my 2 cents! Hopefully, the final final build of wm6.5 will have things looking better and ironed out....

cheers
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] trizzo:
For me - Wi-Fi issue happen after i install MarketPlace update. I switch of wifi. After a second I try to connect once again - but no wifi settings... no wifi connection possible...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Test111199:
Help Read Chinese

Dear Sir:

I flashed the rom of i780_Flame_WM6.5.3_CE_OS_5.2.28006_OEM_PDXIB1 ( 128DPI_WWE ), after that I copy sunfon.ac3 to \windows folder and softreset. But it still can not read chinese !

Thx for help!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ironeagle:
Try this cab -> http://rapidshare.com/files/315639870/gb18030.CAB
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ludede:
i install only modaco nodata, bigix sms, sygic (is this the problem in my wifi problem??) and office mobile..after the turn off or sft reset the wifi don't work...work only with my advice...

some advices?? also answers in italian!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nCoder:
I don't have none of these: modaco nodata, bigix sms, sygic

I had Office Mobile 2010 beta though.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] trizzo:
I have installed Sygic and all other apps and wifi is still here...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hidnface:
Me too testing 28006 without gpsgate and tomtom 7.

I am strongly sure that it's Gpsgate causing this. Anyway, I will continue testing the new rom without these 2.

Can you pls post direct link (if you have) for Igo8? ;)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nCoder:
It happened again without TomTom not GPSGate.

Uninstalled Office Mobile 2010 Beta and looks ok now (for the last couple hours).
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nCoder:
Hi Hidnface

I can't post that links here. but google and rapidshare are your friends ;)

Search for iGo 8.3.4 102680, the latest 2009.09 maps, extras (buildings, POIs, terrain, voices, TTS, ...). This is one application that I'd pay for it.

If you need any help, PM me :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ludede:
ehm..your advices is unistall office ??

i have only 4 program now nodata, s2u2, sygic and office... and the wifi don't connect ...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] trizzo:
try to remove Office Mobile 2010 beta.... this should work.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nCoder:
After removing Office 2010beta it seemed to work fine for several hours did some reboots too and everything looked ok.

Problem is back after updating MarketPlace and installing the free applications provided :(

Could it be related to Windows Live Mobile applications? WMP also uses WLM for authentication...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dotdcp:
I see a 96dpi_german version is already up. Could you release a 128dpi_german version also, please?

Thank you very much!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] trizzo:
I do not know exactly. The truth is out there... :) Really - for me I stopped installing office 2010 beta and marketplace. By that time I did not find this issue again... using the 28005 build for almost week without any problems (wifi working, sip change is working, etc.).
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hidnface:
hmmmmm!!

In 28006 as well as 28005, Com 8 is present in Tomtom7 settings. So no need to use Gpsgate (in theory). I am still on testing mode :cool:

Ok friend. Will try to find it :) Thnx
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nCoder:
Conclusion: DO NOT USE Microsoft applications or your i780 will have problems with WiFi! :D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nCoder:
It will not work without a virtual COM port (i.e. gpsgate).

I believe the problem with TomTom is some kind of COM port settings issue, perhaps parity, bits, .... Sometimes TomTom reads some data but stops, like most of the data was corrupted but some messages went through. It's not usable at all if you don't use this gateway.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] strann2007:
Thank you very much! please 28008 96DPI Russian.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nCoder:
28008

28008 already???

Looks like M$ is working harder now! (Or this is the same build and they just change the name :))

Microsoft should be watching us! After all we're all beta-testers (for free)

Go Go M$! (hei, could you please ask Samsung to release a new nk and drivers for this phone? please? :D)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mcx83:
Italian 128Dpi ......

whao very rapid this new release

You're the best......more than MS staff

:eek:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Raijin86:
Good job! :) Could you release a 96dpi_polish 28008 version? Thanks in advance.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ludede:
we will test the 28008 wifi problem now!!

iron can you make a 5.2.28008 128 dpi italian

please.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] syrex:
28006 128 dpi WWW - Wifi Problem

Hi,

after 3 days with 28006 128 dpi WWE my WiFi dont work anymore!!! I dont make any changes, the wireless connection worked without any problems the first 3 days...now i cant establish the connection....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] akhie01:
please help.

I'm currently using dt39-UltimateROM-v3.0 [96 DPI, WM6.5 23081] (25th Oct) Multi Language Keyboard Suppor by dreamtheater39

is there anyone out there which is from asia or philippines that is not experiencing probles with sending MMS, i can use GPRS and the rom really great I have tried all the latest roms now but I don't know what the problem is all of them were unable to send MMS, giving me DATA Connection failed, cannot connect. please give me feedbacks regarding this, thanks a lot.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] -ahtiang-:
I've just flashed to 28008 ROM and one thing I noticed is that the Titanium screen fonts are much bigger in the 28005 ROM build... other than that, the speed and reliability so far is as rock solid as the 28005... btw, I'm using the 96 Dpi...

great job ironeagle...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tung0708:
Display position offset

Hi ironeagle and any expert guy

I'm using 28005 and found whole display have offset to upper about 3-4 pixel in lock screen, calling screen and keypad screen.

I found that e-showcase can help in case of resco explorer but don't know how to apply with lock screen or calling screen

BTW thank you very much for you great ROM :D:D:D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hidnface:
ok friend try this:

Go start > settings > connections > wifi > click on search or on one wifi connection you were using previuosly > click on connect

See if you can use your wifi through these steps.

FYI, I was connecting wifi through titanium Ccomm, and when i faced pblms with wireless I done these steps and got wifi working. Try and let us know.

Cheers
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] flonec:
hello

when???? WINDOWS MOBILE 7

:cool:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bunny0509:
Please

28008 96DPI French

THK
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] thelooti:
Greetings,

What is the difference between these roms: 28008 vs 28006 or 28002??? Are they newer versions? the greater the number the newer? fixes implemented? for example what's changed in this new 28008?

thnx a lot
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Curon:
Hey Ironeagle,

can you make a i780_Flame_WM6.5.3_CE_OS_5.2.28008_OEM_PDXIB1 128DPI_German? Thx a lot.

btw i have a lot problems with TomTom becaus it will find sattelites but they will never lock a signal.

Have someone a answer?

Now i have the 28002 128DPI German on my phone. TomTom settings: "Other NEMA GPS /// COM 8 /// 4800 baut" Phone on factory default. With internal GPS they dont find a GPS device.

Hope someone can help.

Greets Curon
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ironeagle:
can u try *#1472365# and lock the sattelites first before using tom tom
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hidnface:
Install portsplitter and configure it to use with Tomtom.

No pblm found using these 2 on 28006.

For fast satellite locking use SeaSGEE. Portsplitter+Tomtom+SeaSGEE is the perfect combination for me.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hidnface:
28008 is newest. It is wm6.5.3.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nCoder:
Basically the last digit :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hidnface:
LOL...Nice one nCoder :D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Curon:
Hey, i have now used this Portsplitter GPSmeter Portsplitter but i don't can select a output port becouse there is none ;o)

Can you help me?

SeaSGEE i have downloaded but it need a internet conection, right? i think i can wait for a gps signal ;o)

greetz
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Curon:
I have wait 10 minutes but no lock -.-
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] xolum:
hey...

...could you please provide 5.2.28008 in 96DPI German??

Thanks!!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hidnface:
Ok. Let's start ;)

1. Portsplitter

Port - com8 not present in list. So you write "com8:" (without quotes).

Baud - 4800

Select autostart if you wish

Output - select com6 then press Add

Click on start and click OK on phone keyboard

2. TomTom

Configure > Other NMEA GPS receiver > 4800 > Com6 Portsplitter

3. SeaSGEE

In fact you need an internet connection. I use my home/office wifi to update SeeSGEE. It takes at least 10secs. Once you downloaded the satellite positions. close seasgee and enjoy GPS :D No need to download each time you use GPS. This should be done every 3 days coz the ephemeris file expires after 3days.

Now if you wish to wait for gps signal without the tricks above, fine. but sometimes you will reach your destination before it locks a signal...:)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Curon:
Hey thx you.

But my Problem was on the 28002 - on this i dont can select any output port, its only blank. Now i have installed the 28008 ant there it works.

I have locked a signal but i have used a other tutorial for faster gps fix. Must test it more. I will qoute it for you and we all can test it ;o) I believe it works. Today a new fix will come in 10 secounds. It is late and i have not test a other position ore something.

Here the tutorial for you:

Test it guys ;)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rainbow99:
flash using win 7 x64

hi i'm trying to flash using a win7x64 machine. installed ms virtual machine. but somehow couldn't flash successfully. couldn't detect the phone even though i attached the usb port to the virtual machine. Any one can advise me thx?:(
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Curon:
Don't use the virtual machine - make it directly under windows 7x64 ;o)

Flashing under win7
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] drrkgupta:
Something is wrong with the MMS settings. The charactesthere are not readable. I am using the latest 28008 OEM 96 dpi version.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Curon:
- deleted by myself ^^ -
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] etere:
[REQ] i780_Flame_WM6.5.3_CE_OS_5.2.28008_OEM_PDXIB1 ( 128DPI_Italia ) .... Please!

:D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] drrkgupta:
Bluettoth remotecontrolling of song playback and fast forward is not working in the latest 28008 96 dpi rom. I tried both kinoma and core players. Any help and suggestions??
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nomaximux:
[REQ] i780_Flame_WM6.5.3_CE_OS_5.2.28002_OEM_PDXIB1 96DPI_Portuguese if its possible!

cheers

nomax
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] -ahtiang-:
hi drrkgupta, i'm using the 28008 96 Dpi ROM and my bluetooth A2DP controls all working perfectly... btw, i'm using the Windows Mobile Player...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hohofans:
no A4,please.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] drrkgupta:
Yes the windows mobile player works ok but the coreplayer and the kinoma don't work. I mean the A2DP controls. May be they are not compatible with WM 6.5. However Ptunes works perfectly well.

The above problem seems a program specific one so the ROM is ok on these matters.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] SiaraX:
i780_Flame_WM6.5.3_CE_OS_5.2.28008_OEM_PDXIB1 ( 96DPI_Polish ) -Please
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] psolunke:
Please help

Please help me resolve this issue..:eek:

Please another server...rapid give headach..:mad::mad:

Error

You want to download the following file: http://rapidshare.com/files/316182470/i780_Flame_WM6.5.3_CE_OS_5.2.28008_OEM_PDXIB1_128DPI.7z | 52617 KB

This file can only be downloaded by becoming a Premium member

There are no more download slots available for free users right now. If you don't want to become a premium member, you might want to try again later.

-Pratap
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] limsko:
Im asking for it too.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ironeagle:
use a proxy buddy.. http://www.samair.ru/proxy/time-01.htm
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ironeagle:
will post..
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Alexis2:
i780_Flame_WM6.5.3_CE_OS_5.2.28008_OEM_PDXIB1 in 96dpi french please???
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ElVikin:
I have the swedish 28002 whats diffrent to the 28008, is it anything "nedy"? if so could u post a:

i780_Flame_WM6.5.3_CE_OS_5.2.28008_OEM_PDXIB1 in 96dpi swedish?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wolfhongkong:
There is a rather old thread that addresses the issue of the German keyboard layout. It is a little cumbersome to install, but works really well once you complete the process:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=497150

Enjoy!

Wolf
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Curon:
Or simply use the 28008 or 28002 - this one have i tested with qwertz layout and is it ok. No problems and you dont must use AEKmap.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bobsbbq:
I have 2 questions. And no I'm honest I don't have time to read the whole thread.

1. What is a good dialer to use with this ROM 28008? Are thereany problem with scroll bar in dialer?

2. What is a good compatible keyboard? The factory one sucks and is too small.

I have Flame version 23071 so it's about time for another upgrade.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] SenLin:
PagePool ?

Just wondering, what is the pagepool in your ROMs, ironeagle? Is it still at 16mb? (or back to stock 4) Sorry if I missed it somewhere, I've searched the thread but don't see any info.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bobsbbq:
I have noticed that 28008 has the wakeup bug. Where the device will not wake up from sleep. You have to take out the battery.

Anyone else have this problem. It has been widely discussed in the Source OEM forum from DaG.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ironeagle:
16mb pagepool
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ironeagle:
no issue reported as of now..
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nCoder:
No issues here. I'm sure if someone had this problem would report here.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] BoyBawang2:
which is more advanced. 28008 or 23091? Which is better?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tipidai1:
can't install SRS_Wow since 28002

I'm always installing SRS_wow to get better surround on my i780, every time upgrading to newest ROM. But since 28002..it is not compatible to use the software. sound will be gone and screen not responding when I touch it..any opinion for this bug??
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] limsko:
Where i can find Input Settings in i780_Flame_WM6.5.3_CE_OS_5.2.28006 ??
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] psolunke:
Thanx bro..
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jerome.jh:
+1 for i780_Flame_WM6.5.3_CE_OS_5.2.28008_OEM_PDXIB1 in 96dpi french

Regards.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mcx83:
i780_Flame_WM6.5.3_CE_OS_5.2.28011_OEM_PDXIB1 in italian 128 dPI

Best reguards IronEagle
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] evil04:
i just install version 28008 and i got this alert and unable to switch on my phone. any ideal what is the issues ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] heineken78:
Hey dude IronEagle!

Thats exactly what I told you today ;)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] khalid77:
Any reported bugs

Dear Iron Eagle,

Many thanks for the great work. I was wondering if anyone can list any bugs or known compatibility issues with recent ROM's so that its know to everyone.

Another request is : can you upload to a different file sharing site other than Rapid Share, as a free user i have been trying both ways with and without a proxy without any luck.....

thanks again....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nCoder:
(Reduced ULDR Partition, Increased Storage Memory (172.88 MB) )

Good to know we're getting better ROMs than Samsung :)

Thank you and Congratulations for this new big step.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tuemdeluxe:
The only bug I noticed is the wifi bug. When I press the power button and the phone "awakes", wifi turns on. That happens randomly but in the last 3 days it's happend quite often. I use the 23506 96dpi german rom.

I would love to see a 28011 in 96dpi German. :)

Thanks for your hard work Ironeagle!

Grettings from Germany,

Tim
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ssr_german:
+1

but with the z and y on the right pos :)

thx ssr
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] xolum:
Please.....5.2.28011 96 DPI German

Thanks a lot!!!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] etere:
REQUEST: 5.2.28011 128 DPI Italia

:eek:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] RicMedio:
:) yep yep
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] speedepl:
Sounds great. :)

Please 28011 Polish 96dpi.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] DJxSpeedy:
please make an 5.2.28011 German 96DPI ;)

hope you will ;) thx ;)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sunnyjiang:
great ironeagle，pls release 28011@96dpi simple Chinese version
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] StefanBG:
Win 6.5 for SGH-i637 (Jack)

Can official Samsung update for i637 be used to improve custom builds for i780?

http://www.samsung.com/us/i637/windowsmobileupgrade6_5
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Corvisier:
Hi ironeagle,

Great job...your ROMs are getting better and better everyday!

I would love to test a 28011 96DPI Portuguese, I'd be very grateful if you could help me out :)

Cheers
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hohofans:
NO a4,no tools, i need dayhand.of SIP for I780, fonts of MSYH, please!

TKS!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] -ahtiang-:
28011 ROM sounds so techy, I'm so gonna try it now... :D

thanks ironeagle...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Visque:
Good Stuff nvr ends.

Dude, yer the only reason why i actually sent in my i780 yest to samsung to replace my entire housing from its tattered and battered state...not to mention i lost the batt cover.( $143)

Cant wait for it to come back to me in mint condition, gonna take care of it like a princess.

Thanks to you dude...appreciate.

ps. also on a side note - got myself an omnia II, any plans on evolving that also. (version on it is like 5.2.21863)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hellketty:
any possibility for this WM6.5 rom working on Plam Treo Pro as long as the same square screen?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] heineken78:
NO! Every device has own nk, structure, drivers you can damage your phone by flashing even wrong firmware version.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jackwu:
rom request: 28011 96dpi in Chinese Traditional

Thank you in advance! :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lamjeff:
Seems IE got error for 28011 ....:(
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] -ahtiang-:
Hi Ironeagle,

May I ask what is the difference between the 2 ROM of 28011?

Is the new MSM ROM having lesser application with it than the previous 28011 version?

Thanks.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] drrkgupta:
I have downlaoded and installed the 28011 96dpi version running ok. Ironeagle I see that you are now uploading the extra memory ROM reducing the ULDR portion more.

What real benefit we will get from reducing the ULDR portion except for increased free memory in the device ?? Will it make the ROM faster?

What is the page pool file size in this new update you are using. Would not increasing the page pool size ofcourse while reducing the ULDR ( In lieu of it) increase the device performance?

Please do explain!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] -ahtiang-:
Hi Ironeagle,

I've tried the 28011 MSM version and IE seems to be not working as the page is blank after I input the web url, tried a few times and it's the same the page just turn blank.

Thanks.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ironeagle:
let me check..
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ironeagle:
basically we get more storage memory.. and less overhead. Page Pool is always 16mb..
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] -ahtiang-:
one more thing, i also noticed that the FingerKeyb is not available in the 28011 MSM build also... :D