yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Major A:
From my small 24h of experience with the first build, I did not noticed serious flaws, but I miss the threaded messaging, so I will switch as soon as possible to 23xxx. Locking did not bothered with S2U2, and everything run pretty much like in a butter with Pagepool just fixed@ 24Mb.

HTC 6.5.X branch is maybe now more focused upon new MSM SoCs since late 6.5 updates came with 6.5 builds. Stock MS released with latest refinements may be a secure fallback indeed.

Edit : 23569 rom mirrored on my mediafire account.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] programatix:
It's really up to you actually... anyway it would be best to reflash because there is some performance improvement.

Regarding saving your setting, you can either use My Phone or ActiveSync/Windows Mobile Centre. Don't use any backup application because backup made in different version of ROM is not compatible with each other.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Torakiki83:
Chef, i have a question... is there any big difference between 23127/23569?

'cause i updated to 23127, i'm tempted about trying 23569 i just wanna know if it's worth the try! thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Major A:
I did not encountered serious flaws with the initial release of 4.16, but flashed the 23569 just to get back threading in mails. So I could tell you that if you badly need threading, you may flash, but if you don't give a **** about threading, you wouldn't notice big differences of speed or stability.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Torakiki83:
thank you very much, i think i'll give it a try 'cause htc messaging seems slow at times!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Bokibaba:
video call thing QILIN_PhoneCanvas

hey people this is great and very fast rom,but, allways there is BUT, no video call option again.

I saw solution, somebody said< use QILIN_PhoneCanvas> to make video call, and I found here that aplication, but nobody explain how to install it. Can anybody help me with this...:cool:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] programatix:
Seems like I'm not alone in this. Performance is the same. The only thing that keep playing in my mind is, 23569 is sooo old. :)

So sad that nobody like HTC Messaging... maybe next time I'll build both with and without... I tend to use HTC Messaging because of the MMS. It's faster.

I'm using video call without any problem.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] zai_hkman:
one little suggestion, if u can include the htc volume control instead of the window default, it would be more user-friendly and surely eye candy.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] programatix:
Sigh... if only I could. Since WM 6.5 build 23028 or in my case Exquisite 3.0, HTC Volume stopped working. Nobody found a way to solve this. There is a 3rd party software though. If you want to give it a try, you can find it at http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=395695. It has been greatly improved and you can now close it by tapping on the background. The only thing that it couldn't do now it to mute when you press the volume down button during incoming call.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] zai_hkman:
it seems that this app cannot be open by tapping the hardware volume buttons. Anyway,thx for answering my question.

Updated: forget to run the program actually lol:p. it runs flawlessly now:):):)

thx again
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] romant:
Font Size Question

Nice rom. My Touch pro was AWOL for a couple of weeks for repairs so this is the first solid wm6.5 rom I have tried. I find that the font size on the start menu icon names and, in particular, on the email preview within TF3d are too small for my use. Is there a way to increase the size of these items a little?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ferluci:
Excellent rom Programatix!, fast, responsive and good looking.

I´ve installed Neo Driver but just read that it is cooked in, so I´m going to uninstall it but leave Gfxboost.

Thanks! :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] izas:
Task Bar

Hi again;

Where do i find custom task bar (for the lower button-"start", "phone" & "camera")? ((refering to ur exquisite rom style)

Been searching around. Only top task bar available.

I lov the button but would like to try diff design.

:DIn ur ROM i add a few things that make it look better;

Transparent slider.

Leo slider icon.

No top curtain. (makes the wallpaper more beautiful)

Fileexplorer extention.

Gyrator. (as u suggested)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] programatix:
You can do that by editing the theme file (.tsk). The tsk file is actually a cab file. So, if you have a cab editor, you can edit it with ease.

Hope it stays that way. :)

The soft buttons can be skinned but I'm not very good at skinning. Actually most of WM6.5 can be skinned (tab, scroll bar, button, etc). I hope you can find other references in this forum.

Regarding any extensions that works with this rom, it would be great if you could share the links for others to try... including myself.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Slider2k:
Default Heap Size

Default Heap Size is very small.

For example, new port of Heroes of Might and Magic II

(from http://forum.pdaprime.ru/index.php?showtopic=49405&st=0&gopid=484926&#entry484926, direct link http://rapidshare.com/files/288504082/Heroes2wm.rar) not work :(

Can change it in .ROM configuration?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] xixx:
This is the first wm6.5 rom which I'm using more than a day :)

Well, there are some issues:

1. I need a russian hw keyboard layout, so I edited the CurrLang registry value to enable it, but when I press my language change button it prints '£' symbol then switches the language.

2. When receive a call in landscape mode, the skin of dialler is broken, it shifted to the up right and the buttons a cutted by the screen edges.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Slider2k:
Try http://www.4shared.com/file/137445879/e9f7e601/Programatix_EzInput_Patch__Touch_Pro_.html
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] izas:
Add-On

Reply to ur thread;

Here i attached the cab files of my add on. I can't remember which thread/link i got it from, but its all from this forum.

All of these attachment are tested & works fine with ur ROM. (took me hours of trying before getting which one that don't crash with ur rom)

Curtain - i try both the bottom & the top curtain. Both working but the Top is better as it really show the full beauty of ur wallpaper.

Transparent - it work well.

Bluewis bar - a custom slider bar that only visible when "press" upon, if not it is in grey color. Workable

Retractable slider - jus like the slider when it goes landscape. Workable.

the rest speak for itself.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] xixx:
Thanx! It works.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] programatix:
I'm not sure regarding this... I'll try to look into it.

I see that issue #1 is solved. For issue #2, yes the phone canvas hack by amarullz is not perfect yet, especially in landscape, but it is the best there is for now. If you are not using video call, you can download and install Tachi Phone Canvas.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kwill:
Hey progromatix. Just checked out the not rom and all was pretty well. All basic functions worked as expected and speed was comparable to most. Few quirks I found was one related to the mail inbox. Each time I closed out of the mail inbox, the inbox would hang causing me to have to soft reset because everything would become unresponsive. Start menu registered me touching, but wouldnt open. I thought it was one of the few cabs i installed but hard reset, set up email again and same thing happened. I couldve sworn I read somewhere in DaG's threads that the showcase suite was the cause of outlook crashes. Actually, that was about it and congrats. It's good stuff.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] SSJ4Gokou:
One thing that i have noticed about using this rom on a daily basis. This is happened once so far. The phone becomes unresponsive and i have to do a soft reset. The phone boots up than hangs at the att world phone screen. It does not move past that screen. I usually just do a hard reset and that works. Then just now It did the same thing. This time i took out the memory card to see if that was the problem and it hung up at the "starting windows" logo, waited about a minute and then booted into windows, but This time the phone wiped my device as if i did a hard reset. Anyone else having these issues?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] klasital:
I experience the same email problems, but I think programtix hasn't been able to replicate this hang on his device though.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] programatix:
Ah, I did have this problem once... always after I enable Windows Live. I think the issue is with me converting too many files to modules. This is hard to solve but it will only happens after you've done a certain thing, as for my example, enable Windows Live. Normally it is not caused by installing more apps, but by using features that are cooked in. If you could tell me what cause it to hang, then I might be able to replicate the problem and do a trial and error work to solve it.

Until now, I still haven't encounter this problem. Did you guys reconfigure ShowCase to close apps on tapping the "X" button?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kwill:
I didnt programatix, but I can try that if I flash back to the rom.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] SSJ4Gokou:
Actually its different everytime. Last night it happend twice. The first time i put the phone in vibrate cuz i was in the movies. When the movie was over i tried putting the phone back to loud thats when it froze. I took out the battery because the phone was unresponsive and thats when the phone was frozen at the att world phone logo.

The second time i was trying to install some cabs from windows marketplace.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] yn2000:
I have flashed this rom for week. everything is so far so good! it is a really good rom. I just want to know where is to set up clicking the botton ‘X’ to close & EXIT the running programs. it is used to be in the top-right hand side of the screen.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] programatix:
Hi,

I found a way to disable HTC Messaging Client. Until I come out with a cleaner solution. I may integrate it into Exquisite Configurator where you can enable/disable it.

For now (dirty way), to disable:

Use any registry editor on PC/device. I recommend CeRegEditor (PC).

Go to HKLM\Services\MSG

Rename the value of Dll from MessagingService.dll to anything else (in case you want it back)

Go to HKLM\System\Inbox\ExternalAccounts

Rename SMS to something else (in case you want it back)

Open File Explorer (or your favourite file explorer)

Go to \Windows

Copy tmailsms.lnk to \Windows\Start Menu\Programs

Soft reset

After you've done the above,

You can't send MMS in tmail. You need to open HTC Messaging Client to send MMS

Tapping on SMS in Message tab will open Sense native messaging (not HTC Messaging, just like if HTC Messaging is not installed). However tapping the New SMS icon will open HTC Messaging Client

New SMS count would not show in the Message tab. However you will see a notification icon on the title bar.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] patrick_spd4u:
What's the difference? Is it the Microsoft's Messaging (like the behavior in TouchFLO 3D) ?

And, yes, I don't like HTC Messaging. It really sluggish and buggy.

The Sluggishness :

1. Scrolling is very sluggish

2. It take long time to load all conversation messages

The Bugs :

1. The message and message's time (timestamp?) sometimes getting overlapped

2. Sometimes the conversation won't show in landscape orientation

3. If we choose the large text size, the long message will not shown completely

4. We have to scroll a little bit first if we use EzInput No Arrow

5. The known problem : the physical back button doesn't work

I prefer the TouchFLO 3D style messaging : tapping an SMS will open Microsoft's Messaging Client. Fast!

I will be very happy if you would make that for Sense 2.5, I hate HTC Messaging.

And, yes, the problem I faced is about locking problem. I upgraded to 4.16 and there no such problem like that anymore, even without S2U2..
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] programatix:
It will behave like Sense 2.1 native messaging.

Sluggishness

1. Yup, I know that. It's ok if the edit box is not visible

2. Yup

Bugs

1. It depends totally on your clock (including the time zone). If you have correct time, but incorrect time zone, the messages will be arranged wrongly.

2. Not sure on this one

3. There is something in the registry to fix that... but I forgot which one

4. This one can be solved by removing the attachment button. Go to HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCMessaging\EditItemParameter and change the value of ToolBarMode to 0

5. Yup

But the MMS is fast.

EDIT: Solution for bug 4.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] patrick_spd4u:
I never use MMS in my life, and will never use. Because I have e-mail and SMS. That's enough for me..
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] jwzg:
Are you willing to share your ported package for Notification Enhancement 3.5?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] programatix:
Please visit the Sense 2.5.2016 VGA thread (in my signature).
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] obaz:
I like HTC messaging. but it has 2 major bugs, in my case.

1. Contact search works only in English (i`m from Ukraine, so many of my contacts are not English)

1. MMS do not working at all. Operator exist in HTC network autoconfigurator.

I have 1 request for future builds of your excellent rom`s. can it be done without ezinput ? I can`t add Russian (419) language to it, and for me it almost useless.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Major A:
Just install another SIP for your lang, no need to clean the rom from EzInput 2.1 to install 1.5, SPB, Cliquick or Resco keyboard.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] obaz:
already do it. still need ezinput. another SIP`s causes bugs with sense.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Major A:
After several days of heavy use with both 4.16 flavours, I guess that 23127 build gives the best results in multitasking and memory management over 23569. Mail threading will have to wait a better build ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] fxdadbrowser:
Seems to be 23647 build is out there...........

any update to our ROM ? :o
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] all-in:
hi i have a small problem.i select in ezinput the phone keypad and every time when i restart the phone it goes back to full qwerty.the second issue for me is that when in sms or other i press the middle button to change from english to greek but there is no option in there.some help with this please anyone :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ie_csb30:
ask

boss i want to ask how i can use garmin in your Rom...bcause i used garmin until 20minutes cannot lock satelitte....any clue of this problem???the second problem is wifi....my wifi can detect hotspot but i cant surfing to internet....i used exquisite 4.13 thx b4
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] nGm@ze:
Hi programatix,

I would like to report several minor problems with your Exquisite V4.16 - 23569 (Sense 2.5 + Titanium) ROM. Firstly is the taskbar, the problem is that some of the graphics on the taskbar seems to be corrupted white icons showing some stock icons some third party icons and also the black bakground seems to be gone. Secondly is the alignment when you use the music tab on full screen landscape and then select an album you want to listen to there seem to be an empty spot on the top, also on the calender tab there are some solid lines, just wondering if the lines are meant to be visible like that because i find it kind of annoying if it is then nvm. And lastly is the support for chinese for some reason when i install the chinese font cab from your first page nothing happens after reboot. The device still appears to show squares, I also tried some other chinese font that i find but same result. Also i want to ask a question about chinese input. I have been trying hard to find chinese input for this ROM but nothing seems to work, i also tried from here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=622054 and some other inputs but all it does is that it causes the system to not boot and i have to make a hard reset just wondering what chinese input do you use. Thanks in advance

Also there is some imaged attached regarding to the problem I'm referring to.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Major A:
You use 4.13 with Sense 2.1 or 2.5 ? If you don't mind flashing, WiFi is vastly corrected in latest build. It has somwhat some problems in releases 4.13, and early 4.14 releases.

For GPS, which Radio do you use ? You used QuickGPS and tried GoogleMaps with manual settings (COM4, 57600) ?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] all-in:
could someone help me out with this please?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] programatix:
I know about the taskbar icons. There is a request to remove the custom cursor because it is too dark. I removed it by using the original file but it also affects some taskbar icon (signal icons). It's ok with me, so I ignored it.

Regarding Album fullscreen, I'm also aware of it. It is caused by HTC own code. Originally, all other tabs should have black background. It supposed to be empty but since I've added my bg4all mod in, the empty spot is not black anymore. I'll release a patch later but for now, I'm busy with work.

I also aware of the line in Calendar, and it is by design, plus the calendar box should not be transparent, I've added a mod to make it transparent, thus making the line looks weird. I think I can fix it but it's the lowest priority in the list.

Regarding the chinese font, please read this post.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] StevePritchard:
And very pleased I am that you did it that way. I think the colour wait cursor is much better. :)

Cheers,

Steve.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] all-in:
hi i have a small problem.i select in ezinput the phone keypad and every time when i restart the phone it goes back to full qwerty.the second issue for me is that when in sms or other i press the middle button to change from english to greek but there is no option in there.some help with this please anyone
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ronald_delgeano:
Where is sent item located ?

Hi there,

After several days using your latest rom, i can't find the "sent item" for my sms, Where is it ?

thanks

Ronald
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ronald_delgeano:
I use garmin and until now there is no problem at all ( i am using it on 4.13 until the latest version )
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] yasir_civil:
i hav HTC fuze. Exquisite has changed my experience tremendously. thanx for the food. well, i see some issues:

1. i used to use 'system seven' a third party push email srvice. but it is not working here and saying 'unhandled error to close application'

2. while using the keyboard after configuring it to Ezinput 2.1-fuze, the CAPS LOCK KEY is not workin, fn key is not working.

3. i want to use the incallrecorder, but it is also not working.

can u help me.:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] nGm@ze:
Just recently i tried the method with the cab you reuploaded but for some reason it doesn't know. This method may sound silly for me to believe but anyways it just doesn't work i have tried it. Do you have other any solution to this problem? I have followed the exact step the instruction told me:

1. Soft Reset

2. Disable Sense 2.5

3. Soft Reset

4. Enable Sense 2.5

5. Soft Reset

Thanks,
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] wujtruj:
Hi boss! Can You re-upload 4.14b Sense 2.1? Link is not working any more :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] programatix:
1. I'm not sure about this one. Might be WM6.5 related problem.

2. Most likely caused by the keyboard layout mismatch.

3. New version will have this fixed.

I do not know what to say, but the attached screenshot shows that it is working. Just make sure that you've downloaded the latest re-upload. In case you're unsure, re-download.

I think I'll build a new version for Sense 2.1
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] wujtruj:
Oh Yeah! Can't wait :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Alleus:
hi, one question for Programatix - can you make a russian language support for ez input?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Yuuki_Minoru:
Disabling HTC Messaging breaks my ability to send messages. They sit in the outbox, and never get sent.

Re-enabling HTC messaging allows me to send messages just fine.

but I prefer it disabled, personally, HTC messaging is too large and slow.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] StevePritchard:
I must admit, I'm looking forward to a version with Windows Messaging properly integrated again. I agree that HTC Messaging is too slow and clunky.

I want Sense to show me I have messages again - I'm almost tempted to re-enable HTC Messaging just to get this functionality back, even though I don't like the messaging app.

Cheers,

Steve.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ronald_delgeano:
Where is Sent item ?

Hi Chef,

I just want to know, where is sent item for sms located ? when i choose all messages, i can't see "sent item" folder

thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] programatix:
Hi,

I've uploaded Exquisite 4.17 with Sense 2.5. Weather animation in Home tab is disabled by default. To enable, either set a new wallpaper or edit the following in registry,

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Manila]
"Home.WallpaperMode"=dword:0000000

Update: I've just tested Exquisite 4.17 with Sense 2.1. Seems like everything is fine... but I only tested for 10 minutes. I'll be uploading it tomorrow.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] fxdadbrowser:
Will flash 2moro morning..... too late now.............

thanx for the update.....
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Major A:
Flashed and mirrored : http://dl.free.fr/lnVsYD8cR
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] programatix:
Hi,

I've uploaded Exquisite 4.17 with Sense 2.1
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Yuuki_Minoru:
do we still have to disable HTC messaging the dirty way?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] gwon:
Just chipping in to say this is a great rom.

Since picking up a touch pro recently I've been flashing loads of roms, basically all the english language ones on the first few pages..

this one seems to have found a nice blend between sense and old style winmo controls.

Nice work.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] StevePritchard:
Hi,

Just a quick bit of feedback regarding v4.17. It doesn't seem as stable as recent releases, although the speed is good, and the ezInput 2.1 is giving me no problems for the first time.

I think the stability problems I've experienced are due to a lack of memory available, rather than specific bugs. By default there's only about 80Mb* left, and I've had a couple of instances where programs won't start, or they throw an error when started.

I also experienced a situation where I couldn't change my ringtone. It would let me make the change, but it wouldn't stick.

All of these problems went away following a soft reset. I only recently wondered whether it was all memory related, so I didn't think to check to see what available memory there was at the time of the problems.

Cheers,

Steve.

* Just in case somebody checks theirs and finds that they have much more memory, this 80Mb is with Co0kie's Home Tab installed - not sure if that makes a difference or not.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] fxdadbrowser:
flashed v4.17 with 32mb pp and running it for more than a day now.

Installed CHT and as Steve mentioned, my TP aslo have around 80 mb free mem.

( after installing all my fav apps as well )

But, never experienced any issues so far and the speed is also good.

More feedbacks to follow.......

Thanx
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] perfektny:
HTC messaging works perfectly for me. The integration was reason I switch to this rom from NRG :-)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Yuuki_Minoru:
you don't have lag issues?

the problem I'm having with it is that I send about 200 messages a week to a single contact, so opening a conversation creates extreme lag unless I delete all my messages every day.

The other problem is that the HTC messaging text box takes up 80% of the screen, meaning I can only read the bottom line of the last message received.

I really dislike it. =/