yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikoan89:
when the other downloads will be available, the changes will be available too. ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Krzysiec:
Great work ! Waiting for OEM ;) I can`t extract CAB (WinCe CAB gives me error that CAB is corrupted :/ )
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pcarvalho:
sorry but its not worst ever...all working great here (qvga)...i even added landscape support to it as on mega it has none (uses portrait layout of qwerty)...it seems you're missing the keyboard image there...

got language layouts for me around here? please share :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikoan89:
really? :confused: :confused: :confused:

Which packages do you included in your version?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pcarvalho:
well i know i need ime, htcscroll2, framework...more i dont know yet as i cook most mega packages in...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikoan89:
I thought to the new fontlink ...

Damn!!! I'm having problems with the cabs, so probably it might depends from my PC :( :( :(

I have to format it :mad:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pcarvalho:
yes fontlink also...but if you dont include it will use whatever font avaliable...

problems with cabs>format PC...thats not good...means problem with PC not with cabs...or you meant PPC? :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikoan89:
no no I mean PC, the problem is with WinCE Cab Manager ...

now I try with an other PC :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikoan89:
the same issue also with an other PC :(

any idea???
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] m.carroll:
so, i don't have a tp to test on, but i'll take a shot at the keymapping when i get a chance.

it is just a kmap.txt edit, i got lucky and stumbled on something that "just worked". i'll flip my CWSlayout and see what i can find. hang tight.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Hemant:
M. Carroll,

Thanks for checking and will wait for your further feedback
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Epson:
Maybe you missed something because It's so great here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=492529 :eek:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] darth maximus:
thanks! i've been changing keymappings but no luck on my side. used an old mapping that was working for v2 and adopted to v2.1 but it messed my hw kb really bad or worked only for 2-3 fn+number presses then won't work anymore.

hopefully its just the layout change.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikoan89:
yes but what is missed is the problem!

if you cook in ROM all Leo/Mega packages it's simple that it works ...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hanackin:
Thanks a lot for your great work dude :cool:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rmarshll:
...........
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] B4PJS:
I would recommend Quickcab v1 (search here on the forum for it. Quick and easy to create cabs. V1 is better imo cos you can import reg files whereas v2 cant. I am not a fan of WinCE cos it locks my computer up all the time so I removed it.

B
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] makeveral:
nikoan can you post original packages?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Krzysiec:
This is strange why in clodyfa ROM this newer package works but in yours not :( (Did U contact with him ? - or no response ? ) Hope i`ll find out soon ! Am i right ? In this newer package "Vibrate" option appears in Settings ? or it should be there in current release ? ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikoan89:
Packages in upload :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fazalali110:
Have flashed cloudy's and everything works great :)

-All the three keyboards perfect.

-Scrolling perfect even when keyboard is pulled down in contact suggestion.

-Vibration works

-Etc...

Build:1917.1325; wonder where he got it from :rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikoan89:
Updated first post with Packages and Changes, enjoy! ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kane159:
[;ease can any one tell me how to make a language pack??

I wan't to make a Chinese one :)

ppl help glease:o
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikoan89:
Chinese version is very different from the others! You can't do it without Chinese 2.1 original files.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MAMeingast:
Is there going to be a V2 for the WVGA cab as well? If so, I'll wait... (I just flashed my HD.) :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] roisagi:
amazing keyboard.

any chance to get hebrew as well?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Krzysiec:
Don`t know why but after include those new packages into my ROM ... everything is messed up :/ Black keyboard how U posted earlier ... and seetings messed up ...

EDIT:

I thought i fixed it ;) Ok now i know U have to find solution :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikoan89:
First I have to find what I need to show the keyboard correctly with the new build, then I'll update both cab too ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikoan89:
probably you need a full Leo porting ...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Krzysiec:
Still wondering how Cloudy did it ... I do not see there full Leo porting and keyboard is working fine in his ROM ... Strange :/ But cross my fingers for U ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikoan89:
I cross my finger too :p
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thebe:
I have the same issue with your latest cab (from today or last night). how did you manage to fix this mess? running on a diamond (vga).

update: actually, only the comapct qwerty is messed up, the other two seem to work fine (enghish). i will try romanian in a minute. ok, in all languages the compact qwerty image seems to be messed up.

update 2: a small gift for you, my friend. the t9 dictionaries for romanian and hungarian are of big help, thanks a lot!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikoan89:
Thanks a lot! Updated 4th post ;)

yes that one is the previous build, now I'm investigating on what is the cause of the issue ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] msm903:
disappeaqring Feedback

Does anyone know why I have the disappearing feedback whenever I plug into an apparemnt power source. The feed back is still there however I can't see it. I'm currently using 2.0 but I tried it with 2.1 and the same. I am forced to do a reboot after to get my visual feedback back.

Any ideas?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Genoa:
excellent job, dear friend ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikoan89:
thank you mate ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thebe:
I would like to help making this piece of software better. For the two languages that I know (romanian and hungarian) there are some accented characters missing that cannot be typed with the keyboard (in all three layouts). What should I change to add these to the symbols layouts? If there are images that I have to edit, bring them to me. I'm a software developer (with a busy schedule, don't we all? :D) and I'm pretty good with Photoshop too.

Also, the words are also coming out wrong from the dictionary. In romanian if you want to type săptămînă it comes out as saptamina. The hungarian dictionary is a bit better, in this respect. It suggests the first hit as the correct word but without accented characters, but (mostly) it also offers the correct spelling, with accents and all. Try for example kilátó. Any ideas what can we do about this?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikoan89:
Tell me what are the missed symbols, and if it's possible I'll add them in the keyboard ;)

Sorry, but for the wrong dictionary I can't do anything ...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fazalali110:
Wanna try your update, looks great :)

Maybe next time I flash. Keep up the good work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thebe:
For romanian, the following are needed:

caracter/name/Unicode/details

-------------------------------------

Ă/Latin capital letter A with breve/0102/Abreve

ă/Latin small letter A with breve/0103/abreve

Â/Latin capital letter A with circumflex/00C2/Acircumflex

â/Latin small letter A with circumflex/00E2/acircumflex

Î/Latin capital letter I with circumflex/00CE/Icircumflex

î/Latin small letter I with circumflex/00EE/icircumflex

Ș/Latin capital letter S with comma below/0218/Scommaaccent

ș/Latin small letter S with comma below/0219/scommaaccent

Ț/Latin capital letter T with comma below/021A/uni021A

ț/Latin small letter T with comma below/021B/uni021B

However, the last four of these were only approved and acknowledged in ISO/IEC 8859-16 (Latin 10) from 2001 and are only correctly implemented in Vista and MacOS (this is also why they don't show up correctly in my post if you're not reading this on Vista). Before that, these four letters were incorrectly used and implemented in all Windows versions as the ones below, so these versions seem to be the most common for now (this should really change in the future):

caracter/name/Unicode/details

-------------------------------------

Ş/Latin capital letter S with cedilla/015E/Scedilla

ş/Latin small letter S with cedilla/015F/scedilla

Ţ/Latin capital letter T with cedilla/0162/uni0162

ţ/Latin small letter T with circumflex/0163/uni0163

So. for starters I guess it would be good enough if we would at least get a set that includes these four from the second list on the keyboard, as I do not really know if the fonts on PPC actually contain the correct glyphs for the correct characters for romanian (the last four in the first list above). Sure, if the font(s) on the PPC support it, by all means we should include the correct ones.

Edit: Anyone interested in reading more about romanian characters, should look here.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thebe:
For hungarian, the following are needed:

caracter/Unicode

-------------------------------------

Á/00c1

É/00c9

Í/00cd

Ó/00d3

Ú/00da

Ö/00d6

Ő/0150

Ü/00dc

Ű/0170

and their lowercase counterparts...

á/00e1

é/00e9

í/00ed

ó/00f3

ú/00fa

ö/00f6

ő/0151

ü/00fc

ű/0171
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fallenangel408:
love the app...one problem, anyone else clarify or maybe just me when i download the cab keyboard works like a charm. but now my wmplayer wont stay in landscape...i remove your cab and it stays in landscape????
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Röchelhilpert:
Is xt9 now working full in landscape ? Or is the 1.post up-to-date with this ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikoan89:
Some of these are already present :)

Ă/Latin capital letter A with breve/0102/Abreve

ă/Latin small letter A with breve/0103/abreve

Â/Latin capital letter A with circumflex/00C2/Acircumflex already present

â/Latin small letter A with circumflex/00E2/acircumflex already present

Î/Latin capital letter I with circumflex/00CE/Icircumflex already present

î/Latin small letter I with circumflex/00EE/icircumflex already present

Ș/Latin capital letter S with comma below/0218/Scommaaccent

ș/Latin small letter S with comma below/0219/scommaaccent

Ț/Latin capital letter T with comma below/021A/uni021A already present

ț/Latin small letter T with comma below/021B/uni021B already present

caracter/name/Unicode/details

-------------------------------------

Ş/Latin capital letter S with cedilla/015E/Scedilla already present

ş/Latin small letter S with cedilla/015F/scedilla already present

Ţ/Latin capital letter T with cedilla/0162/uni0162

ţ/Latin small letter T with circumflex/0163/uni0163

and all of these are already present:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikoan89:
strange problem :eek:

probably it depends from the build of the keyboard, like the old lock-screen issue ...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikoan89:
No xt9 still not working well in VGA's landscape, for this I need help!!! :(

Probably we'll solve this issue with a build from Tachi ...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ANDYx1975:
Hey if you want...you can use those files for the german letter...it places the german ä,ü,ö,ß on second place, so that all german guys don't have to move the finger accross the screen to reach those letters.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QS1FT5OF
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MAMeingast:
Sounds great! But how do you use these files? :confused:

Danke! ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thebe:
True. But in these two languages I would like two things:

1. To be able to type these symbols directly from the symbols page, instead of all the garbage emoticons (and some of the keys are blank!).

2. When I click and hold one letter, say A in the full qwerty layout, I would like the accented characters for the active language (say hungarian, this means á in this discussion) to be the first character in the list of A variants, as the others are not used in hungarian (from my point of view they could even not appear). but this is not so important.

Now how about editing the symbols bitmaps so that these characters can be typed directly from the symbols pages? I can help if you tell me what to do.

The above was a request for both romanian and hungarian.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikoan89:
just copy them in windows folder, then soft reset the device ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thebe:
and specifically for romanian: aside from adding ă and Ă, if the font(s) on the ppc support

Ț/Latin capital letter T with comma below/021A/uni021A already present

ț/Latin small letter T with comma below/021B/uni021B already present

then almost surely they also support

Ș/Latin capital letter S with comma below/0218/Scommaaccent

ș/Latin small letter S with comma below/0219/scommaaccent

do you think that we could somehow get rid of the old (and incorrect)

Ş/Latin capital letter S with cedilla/015E/Scedilla already present (these are used in Turkish, I believe)

ş/Latin small letter S with cedilla/015F/scedilla already present

Ţ/Latin capital letter T with cedilla/0162/uni0162

ţ/Latin small letter T with cedilla/0163/uni0163

and replace them with the ones with comma below (and not cedilla), when romanian is active? otherwise people will confuse them and will keep using them incorrectly. so, in the end, when romanian is selected, I would like to see only these

Ț/Latin capital letter T with comma below/021A/uni021A already present

ț/Latin small letter T with comma below/021B/uni021B already present

Ș/Latin capital letter S with comma below/0218/Scommaaccent

ș/Latin small letter S with comma below/0219/scommaaccent

and none of these

Ş/Latin capital letter S with cedilla/015E/Scedilla already present

ş/Latin small letter S with cedilla/015F/scedilla already present

Ţ/Latin capital letter T with cedilla/0162/uni0162

ţ/Latin small letter T with cedilla/0163/uni0163
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thebe:
finally, my compact qwerty layout is still messed up :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikoan89:
Ok you're not the first one that ask me how to do this, when I have some time I try to write a tutorial on how customize the keyboard ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] msm903:
Is anyone else experiencing this problem. It appears I need to do a soft reset each tim i plug in my phone ot a power source or usb activesync just to get back the visual feedback. To me that's the best feature of the keyboard for me.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thebe:
The kbd files I cannot edit, as they are binary. From the xml files can you please tell me which ones are for the languges I'm interested in?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] evertec:
I tried cooking the latest version into my rom but get a garbled keyboard, with only the spacebar, xt9 switch, and upper case switch legible. I didn't have this problem with the previous version. Any ideas?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thebe:
I'm having this problem too. But on me device, only the compact qwerty layout is garbage, the other two work ok.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fallenangel408:
any chance for the WVGA Ezinput 2.1 v2 cab? :D please!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] m.carroll:
can't you just install the native packages/cab? i can make one up for you, but the latest packages from the Leo should work just fine...

i'm soooo beyond ready for a wvga device so i can skip all this resolution porting crap. i'd happily give up my fuze for a td2... at least the at&t td2 has passed through the fcc http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/07/30/atandts-htc-touch-diamond2-warhawk-hits-the-fcc/
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] HelderJr:
Guys.. I´m really sorry for asking this question, which might be dumb, however... I can´t understand the function of thoses packages. What are they made for?

I have a Touch HD and downloaded the WVGA version, but below it there´s a WVGA package.

Thanks in advance.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikoan89:
I'm working for release a 2.1 cab version, I try to find what is the cause of the missing image of the keyboard !!!

Please don't ask for a cab release, I want that it works more then you!!! :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikoan89:
Packages are for cookers only!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Wajk:
thnx for your work. we are waiting ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] c_shekhar:
Why cant I see the block recognizer, letter recognizer and msim keyboard?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] leadpoizon:
It seems like symbol entry for the hardware keyboard still isn't supported. :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Krzysiec:
Very strange problem with This EzInput 2.1 ...

I noticed very strange problem with this keyboard ... After cooking it into my ROM ... today i noticed my Navi application (AutoMapa - Great polish Navi soft) got crashed in hardkeybuttons assign .. I mean when i`m in option to assign some options into my hardbuttons AutoMapa is going to be crazy ... Options that i assign are launched by themselwes (autolaunch) ... And noticed that strange "a" with "o" over it (i do not have sign like this on my keyboard ;) ) is appearing ... So i tried to cook ROM without this keyboard and cook 2.0 ... AM is working great now ... I dont know what is causing problem ... mabe HTCScroll2.dll ? maybe it has some common with harbuttons maping ? Strange isnt it ? :/
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TheAgent1982:
Hebrew Language

There will be Hebrew Language?

Let me help you, and tell me how to translate it to Hebrew, if it is not found yet...

Thanx in Advance!

TheAgent1982
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wmserver:
EZInput 2.1 causes ActiveSync setup problem

nikoan89,

I just found out that cooking EZInput 2.1 v 1.1 into the ROM will cause ActiveSync setup to freeze.

Maybe it's look for a different SIP.

However, installing from cab seems to work fine.

Thanks for porting this.

UPDATE: Cab install also caused ActiveSync setup to not response to click.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] m.carroll:
i have noticed this issue before as well. i dont have it when using build 21935.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] makeveral:
i wonder the same, i guess it's a reg key
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] peron:
how to add languages

Ciao Nikoan89,

I have this question for you or anybody else, how do I add a language?

I'm using cloudyfa 1.3 image which contains your ez_input 2_1_19171325_00 keyboard but only has English language.

I would like to add italian and spanish at least. Any easy way to achieve this?

Grazie
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cemetry:
You can change it in the registry:

HKLM=>Software=>Tegic

(I think, haven't installed it because I'm testing Valkyrie's Firestorm ROM).

If you've a QUWERTY I think you must also change:

HKCU=>Keyboard Layout=>Preload=>Default

Best wishes

cemetry
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wmserver:
Same problem with Nikoan89 - VGA Ezinput 2.1 v2.1 - Packages.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kidoucorp:
Facing the same problem, wasn't the case with the previous build :(

Tried both OEM & cab

And the Option menu isn't opening :(

How did you managed to fix this ??
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 1337_V1k1n6:
I have that problem too. installed the cab on the latest 6.5 rom by miri and now my keyboard is black.. the t9 is working in full qwerty though, however the compact qwerty is messed up

EDIT: And there is no norwegian keyboard? how do i fix this?

thnx in advance
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikoan89:
Updated 4th post, many thanks to Jaguslav ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikoan89:
try to change all this reg keys from 0 to 1:

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429667-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}\IsSIPInputMethod]

@="0"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{3A20A6B0-E476-44F7-A12E-ECA335F6D52C}\IsSIPInputMethod]

@="0"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{20BEAB7D-DA92-4D85-AE18-8BCDD10DDF0C}\IsSIPInputMethod]

@="0"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{615623E0-A400-11D1-8910-0000F81EA21F}\IsSIPInputMethod]

@="0"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{CD75C2B1-B10A-4430-8A2E-C124C42F6060}\IsSIPInputMethod]

@="0"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{1FE8DF43-1EF4-4575-8695-D8B39A10BCEE}\IsSIPInputMethod]

@="0"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{9D30D4D0-A261-11D1-890F-0000F81EA21F}\IsSIPInputMethod]

@="0"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{717208D0-A932-11D1-8912-0000F81EA21F}\IsSIPInputMethod]

@="0"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{2F9BC385-098C-430C-B6D4-BFFE17761189}\IsSIPInputMethod]

@="0"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{B29FCEEB-BA48-40E7-BD82-776F70C28E5D}\IsSIPInputMethod]

@="0"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{FD270799-1765-4C4B-892F-D9554AA13C26}\IsSIPInputMethod]

@="0"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{4C08EF90-AA51-11D1-8912-0000F81EA21F}\IsSIPInputMethod]

@="0"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{2609ECFB-4ED8-444B-80FE-C77623CB590A}\IsSIPInputMethod]

@="0"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{1FE8DF43-1EF4-4575-8695-D8B39A10BCEE}\IsSIPInputMethod]

@="0"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{29C68B2D-8A9C-4600-8C18-7E2F4E1CA3D0}\IsSIPInputMethod]

@="0"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{A9BC9200-AAE8-11D1-8912-0000F81EA21F}\IsSIPInputMethod]

@="0"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429690-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}\IsSIPInputMethod]

@="0"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429691-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}\IsSIPInputMethod]

@="0"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{F0034DD0-2AD4-11d1-9CB0-E84BE8000000}\IsSIPInputMethod]

@="0"
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikoan89:
First of all you need all the Hex values of the symbols of Hebrew Language, then you have to create two new XMLs 0Dxx (for portrait) and 0Cxx (for landscape) with the value, try to start from 0D09 and 0C09. At last you have to edit the index.xml and the registry to enable them.

Copy the two files in windows and enjoy ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikoan89:
Hi, the simpler way is to install the cab ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikoan89:
give me the missed symbols, I can't know well all the layouts :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikoan89:
@All: Hi guys, saturday is my birthday (20 years, I'm becoming very old :p) so I stop my work until monday.

Best Regards, Niko ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] msm903:
Vanishing Visual Feedback

Is this happening to anyone else? where the visual feedback vanishes and doesn't coem back until a restart. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank You.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ANDYx1975:
Happy Birthday and have an nice party!!! Andy always remember...you're only young once!!! So do it right!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikoan89:
It's written also at the first post: Hard Reset racommended before the installation!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Soaa-:
I visited too late. I already OEMized your cab. :'D

But what packages are you talking about?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikoan89:
I must solve the misunderstanding: what I can't share It's not related to the keybord! I've shared all the packages related that I have! If I'll have more, I'll share with you, understand??? ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Soaa-:
My OEM didn't work... I shall use your packages now.

Mind telling us what your packages are, without giving them out? :P
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kidoucorp:
I have the same problem :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
When using all the HTC Leo packages, this bug goes away... Haven't isolated what causes it though...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kidoucorp:
Could you please tell me where I can get theses packages ? :rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
Currently, nowhere.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kidoucorp:
OK, so I'll check my packages.

anyway, great work nikoan89 :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] millercentral:
Devices with Hardware Keyboards?

Does this version of EzInput play nice with devices like the X1i or TP2 that have hardware keyboards? Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
It uses the Rhodium keymaps... So it'll play nice with the TP2, but probably not with the Raphael.