yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dlcoppess:
I had this situation today also. When I went to soft-reset, my phone ended up hard resetting itself. Now when I did it, I used the software route rather than pressing the actual button. Perhaps the conflict lies in here? My microSD did not format but, obviously, the phone did. I had recently installed Opera 9.7 Turbo as well as SQL Server Compact 3.5 Core for a program called Gasmate. Anyone else have a similar issue and if you did, did you recently install any applications you have never used before?

Addition: For the time being, I'm going to just use the top bottom and manually power off that route. I'm guessing there may be a few processes the phone takes in allow the device to completely turn off. Any thoughts or am I just tricking myself here?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Luter_1:
Been running 5.2 for a few days now and it seems that the back light doesn't want to shut off even if you change to different combinations of dim/off delays, is anyone else having this trouble or know a fix i didn't see?

dlcoppess, i used the opera 9.7b and found that it integrates very well into the system but I haven't used the other program.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] meelo88:
I don't know what i did what what happened, but now on my title bar i have a ANALOG clock for the time...

Is this a feature and how the heck did i do it????
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] StevePritchard:
Full Qwerty - no ABC mode

Not sure what I've done, but my Full Qwerty keyboard only shows the number/symbol mode, and when I press the [ABC] button nothing happens.

Any ideas?

Cheers,

Steve.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
Yes, it is a feature. If you press and hold the clock when it appears on the top bar, a pop-up box should appear giving you the option to choose Digital or Analog clock display. You must've changed it by accident :).
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] irus:
well that did not work my phone froze this morning about an hour after i turned it on, then i did a softreset which turned into a hardreset..... so i guess its back to 4.7 :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] meelo88:
Thanks a bunch Capt! I thought it was a feature but I got worried when I seemingly couldn't change it back. Got it to work, just can't change it while on the home screen...silly WM6.5
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bramblyrose:
I want try ur latest V5.2,but may I ask u few questions？

1. How's the wireless quality ( GSM signal, Bluetooth/A2DP & WIFI WPA)

2. How's the GPS healthy ( I mean that is it fast to connect to the GPS signal)

Appreciate ur good works!

Regards,

Brose
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mindfrost82:
#1 depends on your radio, not really the ROM

#2 - It mainly depends on your carrier. NATF has it setup to use aGPS with At&t, so that probably won't work for you. You can disable aGPS and it should be like any other ROM, or you could change the registry settings to use aGPS from your carrier (if available).
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] pawel.zak:
I fixed this with Advanced Config (you can download it from here) -> Screen -> Backlight lock level

I hope that this will work in your case too...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] meelo88:
i've tried that to counter the issue, but my phone alway reverts it back to Dim when unlocking after the soft-reset. I set it to always bright but it never sticks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
This might help:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=527219
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NDarkstar:
For what it's worth, I rolled back to 5.0 over the weekend and have yet to have the phone lock up. Have performed several soft resets via the hardware button and the installed application and haven't had the phone come up as if I'd performed a hard reset.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bfspider:
can't wait to try out 5.3 -

hopefully ya nailed down the messaging over lay bug that i posted about... its rather buggybugbug-annoying :P

:cheers:!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] irus:
well i rolled back to 4.7 and have had the phone lock up on my twice now. not sure if its something with my phone and maybe a bad rom or something else but this is what i was doing when my phone froze the last time....

" i was testing a script that i wrote it was very simple it made a directory in the windows folder, then copied over 5 *.jpg files to the new folder only one file would copy so i thought it might have been something i was doing so i deleted the folder in the windows directory after trying a couple of time i noticed that the directory was not being created anymore which then i was trying to do a softreset via shortcut on my today screen. It could not find the link(weird as it worked not 10mins earlier) then i clicked on file explorer which is when it froze i did a soft reset via button and here i am."

i was thinking it might have something to do with read/write errors of the rom memory its self has anyone had a similar experience. Thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] harutfromnh:
Im having this problem to, im guessing adv config isnt on this version, is there any way i can fix this?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dlcoppess:
Soft Reset/Hard Reset

Had the problem again of a soft-reset reverting my ROM back to it's standard self. It was after I installed the new Manila 2.1 (Which I am excited to test out) so I do not think it has any link to the software I had installed before. I'm starting to notice little things during this and I do not think it is performing a full blown hard reset since I can see a few different mods that I did to my CHome before the occurrence (some are absent, some are not). It happened after windows triggered a soft reset from software (ie. Not pressing the button on the bottom) so I'm starting to believe that is where the error is originating since before this happened when I used the shortcut in the tools folder. Perhaps there is a flaw in the communication between windows and triggering the device (hardware).

I'm not posting this to be whining, just trying to give my observations to help get it fixed for future builds.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] irus:
I am glad you posted this i still feel that mine might be hardware problem but im hoping its a software problem. I never had this problem until i switched to 6.5 but when i switched back im still having the problem
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] pmeacham3:
sd card help

Help guys! I loaded the image onto my sd card, flashed the rom from the card, and once inside, the os doesn't see my sd card. Tried re flashing, both from the card and the computer, and done many resets, both hard and soft. Any ideas?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] meelo88:
I went there and I've solved the lag issue upon starting up, but to stop my backlight from randomly turning off i just disabled it's ability to turn on in the setting->system->power->advanced

I unchecked the "turn off backlight if device is not used for" for both battery and external and just used a time for the turn off device.

Now question for you gurus is as far as i know when you turn off the device the backlight is turned off...i know it sounds stupid, but i just want to be sure...otherwise i'm just draining battery unknowingly...thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] shwag01:
Manila v2

hey NATF, any chance of getting this one in the next version? It seems to work very nicely with 6.5

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=542113
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mindfrost82:
You can install Advanced Config with 6.5 just fine. You can change that same Ring Delay setting in there too.

One other thing that could be causing the delay is the HTC dialer (if you have it enabled). That dialer doesn't work nice with 6.5, especially the lockscreen. You're better off using the stock WM dialer.

For those of you getting random hard resets, I also noticed this with 5.2, and that's why I had to go back to RRE for the time being. I tried lots of things (flashing back to stock, different radios, etc), and it seemed to be random, but that is a HUGE stability problem. I had this same problem when flashing a Juicy ROM onto my brother's CDMA Sprint Diamond, but flashing back to stock fixed it...it didn't work here though.

If you decide to go back to another ROM (either 6.5 or 6.1), flash back to your carrier's stock ROM first, then flash to the custom ROM you want. I haven't had a problem since going back to RRE after doing this.

I will definitely try 5.3 whenever it comes out though :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
Status on v5.3: On track for this weekend.

Changes:

Multiple vesions (CHome, TF3D2, Lite + Standard)

Lots of apps get updated versions

More icons updated/clarified

The hard reset bug appears to be related to a corrupt app_service.dll file (thanks to mindfrost82/NRGZ28 for the info)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sparksp99:
password issues

this is not letting me download.. i cant get pass the password part.. everytime i type it in it just say faild to unzip like the password is wrong...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sparksp99:
the pass word is not working
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
Copy and paste. With over 600 downloads so far, more people would have noticed if it didn't work. ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dlcoppess:
Perhaps then this is an error on our part as the users?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NRGZ28:
Well I guess I was misquoted on that one.... It's not so much "corrupt" as... the wrong version. Generally we tend to import all the newest packages into our kitchen without knowing whether it's going to be fully compatible and sometimes bugs like that sneak in.

What I discovered with my HD is that if I had the Topaz app_service.dll in the ROM, it will go in an endless hard reset loop. As soon as I used the stock dll that matches the OEM drivers and was designed to run on a blackstone, everything was fine.

For a while my ROMs had the same hard reset issue (randomly). A while ago I went in and removed all the newer system packages I had imported from the newer ROM and left the stock stuff in OEM drivers. No hard reset since then. APP_Service is one them, HTCUtil is another, HTCSettings... etc Just your common sense. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] l3it3r:
Just when I was getting familiar to my current setup too...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
Thank you for the detailed explanation. I will check to see which versions I'm using of each one.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bfspider:
looks like a new WM build is out:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=544445
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] DarkVillain:
I had to go back to 4.7 for the time being, not sure what it is with wm6.5, but I'm still finding it slow and buggy. Most of the time, I wouldn't get alerts to text messages, and even if I did, they would show up on the today screen but not be in with the rest of my messages.

Also, the default setting for it to select the last message received instead of putting me in the edit box for text messaging kept getting me. Not sure why it defaults to this, I'd rather reply to a message right away than have to do extra clicks to get to it.

I also had a weird issue where the phone would light up when a call came in, but then I'd only get about 1/2 a ring before they would go to voicemail. If I was on bluetooth (e.g. headset or SYNC in my car), the ringer sounded almost immediately.

Finally, 6.5 doesn't play well with SYNC in my new car yet. Not sure if the new build they just came out with will help with that or not, but as it sits now, it just had weird issues. NATF 4.7 seems to work well with it, though all Windows Mobile devices and SYNC have their own issues (yet the iPhone works flawlessly... go figure).

Waiting to see if the new build of 6.5 will help. If it does, then I'll hopefully be ready to upgrade once more.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] clavace:
v5.2 VS v4.7

I have also gone back to v4.7. I really like the layout and look of WM6.5 but v4.7 is much more reliable I tried v5.2 as well as several of Shep’s ROMS but they all seem to have these similar problems:

1.	Radio reception and voice quality is not as good even though I have tried several radios (with matched dll) with each ROM. With v5.2 I also get more dropped calls.

2.	MSVC works much better with WM6.1. I found that it is accurate most of the time with v4.7 but with WM6.5 ROMS I have to repeat the name I want to call several times and if there is background noise with WM 6.5 half the time it gives me wrong number. Microsoft is coming out with a new program called TellMe for WM6.5 http://www.tellme.com

3.	I added Advanced Config to v 5.2 just to customize the location of several folders to my storage card to save device memory and the ROM started freezing. I had to remove it.

4.	With v 4.7 all menus are very clear and readable. With v5.2 going to contacts for example the list on the right hand side A to Z to go to contacts has overlapping letters.

5.	I use a great program called Pocket 12C SE. It is an HP 12C financial calculator which is great if you are in real estate or finance. With v4.7 it works well in the horizontal layout. It only works vertically with WM6.5, In the horizontal configuration (much better because layout is just like 12C) for some reason the numbers in the display only show up as dashes.

6.	GPS seems to start up faster with stronger signal with v4.7

NOTE: I have one suggestion for people like me that has been experimenting and have flashed many ROMS into your FUZE. Before flashing your next ROM go and flash the latest HTC/AT&T ROM onto your phone first (on HTC website). The ROM is nowhere as good as v4.7 or any of the other custom ROMS but if you flash the stock ROM which includes the latest AT&T radio, hard reset and then flash a custom ROM, hard reset it seems to be a lot more stable.

NATF: One suggestion; When building v5.3 if you add programs like Opera and Mobile Google Maps do not cook in. Instead make them removable in add remove programs so when a new version of the program comes out it can easily be removed to be updated. I am looking forward to v5.3. I hope it has the style of WM6.5 with the stability of v 4.7

Cheers :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dlcoppess:
Any news on which build of 6.5 you'll be releasing? Also wondering which version of Manila 3D version 2 you will be using. Xboxmods or Gen.Y.? Perhaps another variant? Looking forward to the new update sir.

Update: I have not had any more trouble with the soft reset bug. I have merely avoided it by using the power on/off switch for every reboot and this has prevented any flaws that previously occured.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] irus:
that makes sense but for me when i switched back to 4.7 i was still getting the lock up then hard reset problem. i was going to exchanged my phone so i put back stock spl and loaded stock rom used it for two days no lock up then switched back to hard spl and 4.7 rom and still no lock up.... i will test a little longer just to make sure its not hardware. The only thing i don't understand is if its app_service.dll why doesn't everyone have this problem???
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
A small family emergency has caused a delay in releasing v5.3.

I have all of the files I need for the various ROMs, but I still need to get them all in the proper kitchen folders before I can cook everything up. Hopefully I can have everything ready no later then Tuesday.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] uejrue:
Sure hope everything is ok Todd. Keep up the great work!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] buckyg:
Family comes first, we can wait. Hope everything is okay!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hobolooter:
Hey NATF glad to see you're still using my splash screen design. I'm thinking of redoing a new one in the future...

I have a potentiall *noob* question that I have searched for already, and not getting any answers that work. The start menu icons are far too small for me to touch is there any way to make them significantly larger?

Also I like the initiative of changing icons, but you never did this before and I don't really agree with the choices. Are these easily replaceable?

Thanks in advance for any help.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bfspider:
hope all is well man. this phone crap can wait :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dlcoppess:
The way I have noticed to make the start menu icons bigger is to make them 3 wide, rather than 4. I've used these cabs with 5.2 before and have had good luck with it.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=535725

Hope that helps!

Also, I respectfully disagree with you about the new icons ;) I love the new icons!

BTW: Take you're time with the update man.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] drugusv:
hi NATF, why you remove video call from HTC Fuze v5.2 Standard? i supose in 5.3 Touch PRO version you dont remove this option. thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
Since everyone's taste in icons can vary, all you need to do is uninstall the NATF Icon Pack from Remove Programs. None of them are hard coded in the ROM. :)

I modified your splash screen to show WM6.5, but if you wanted to do a new one to better reflect the graphical upgrades WM6.5 is bringing to our phones, that would be great.

So far, I have only released Fuze ROMs. Once 5.3 comes out, there will be a Touch Pro variant, and it will include Video Calling.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hplos:
On what build will the 5.3 for the Touch Pro be based? I read that 23022 is out and the 'bar' on the bottom of the screen looks great (if you ask me).

Keep up the good work :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bildos:
What about TF3D2.5 ? Can we expect in next build?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
That port isn't even done yet. NATF creates stable ROMs. I doubt he'll include something so experimental (and incomplete).
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
v5.3 will be available with Gen.Y Manila v2.1. This new port is stable enough to consider a prime time release.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bildos:
Thanks for fast answer.

Regards

Bildos

P.S. Waiting for v.5.3... :-)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bottlefed1:
Ok maybe this was answered but i searched and couldnt find it. where do i go to use the video camera, and the calculator
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Jdilla:
The video camera can be accessed from the manilla

tab by selecting the video icon or selecting record

video while in capture mode. The calculator is under

Start/Utilities/Calculator. Google is full of information

and can answer most questions without having to post here first
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bottlefed1:
Ok first off I have no manilla folder, and when I go to the camera there is no option to switch to video. Second no Utilities folder either so searching and google are no help at all kinda like your post.

When I go to the start screen the only places I can go to are home, tools,settings,games,imaging,multimedia,navigation,online,windows live,productivity and system and the calculator is not in any of them. In imaging all I get is camera, htc album, and pictures and video options nothing for video when I go to camera it doesn't give the option to change to video.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] thimiost:
why don't we have the keyboard selector i the rom

you have done grat job but why don't you put the keyboar selector in

Is it anywhere available as a cab?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dlcoppess:
Boom goes the dynamite, that's what I was wanting to hear. Will you also cook the fixes into the ROM? I've been using this on your 5.2 version and needed all three of the posted fixes, located on the Gen.Y. thread. A lot of them have to do with the fact that the Fuze/Touch Pro is VGA and not WVGA.

-Contact Fix (need it to see all contacts in Manila, both landscape and portrait)

-Calender Fix (adds the extra visible week)

-No messaging Enhancement (without this, we cannot open emails)

Always excited for your work :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ttres:
In v5.2 you should find the calculator under "Productivity." "Capture Mode" (i.e. the camera icon in the middle) when in the camera mode allowed me to switch to Video.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
It now looks like the TF3D versions may be a few days behind the others. A new build is on the horizon, which is supposed to fix all the glitches reported so far. Depending on when it's ready, I may delay the release. If it will be a while still, then I will just use the current version and install the fixes.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mindfrost82:
You planning on releasing a Titanium Only version sooner sicne TF3D fixes wouldn't apply to it? :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
Yep. The other Standard/Lite versions will not be affected.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hplos:
Hi,

On what build of wm6.5 will the 5.3 version be based?? (I noteced that there are versions like 23024 which have a new bar on the bottom of the screen....)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
As of right now, I haven't changed the build. I want to ensure that all my other changes are stable before I do. Otherwise, I would have to dig throug a lot more folders if a new glitch is introduced.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] HHumbert:
Agree. My preference is for a more stable 6.5 release. I like what you've done with 5.2... Little bit cleaner, and it's perfect. I don't need a new OS every 2 weeks -- I like stability.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] josbald1975:
USB connection

anyone else having issues with the USB connection remembering the last selection used even though it should ask every time? I selected Internet sharing a couple days ago, and today it will only connect in that method, and I've checked in Settings/Connections/USB to PC and ActiveSynch radio button is selected along with Enable fater data synch, and Ask me first about USB connection type...

any idea how to change from the auto-selection?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] StevePritchard:
Possible Contacts issue?

I think I've had this problem a couple of times...

You get a text message from somebody in your contact list, but not with their number registered, so you go to add the number, but at this point the contact list is empty, so you can't pull up their details to assign the number to an existing contact.

Anybody else have this problem?

Cheers,

Steve.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] silverkiller:
Quirkyness found

First flash to version 5, with 5.2, loved your 4 series, and everything looks great so far! good job man.

I have noticed some issues since i edited the registry entry that enables auto lock.

The start menu icons would disappear after loading (displaying the icons then just the background), the phone seemed to have issues trying to display notices that i had 2 voicemails and a miss call, it also continued to try and lock the phone. Eventually I just had to restart which seemed to clear up the problem.

I would have turned off the auto lock (to help you figure out what was the issue), but that would have required a restart anyway, so I cant tell if you that was the issue. But hopefully gives you a place to begin if you want to troubleshoot. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hplos:
Hi, to get a look @wm6.5 I installed a rom on my old universal and I noteced that on the calander view on the today screen only shows the appointments of tomorrow... Is thare a possability that I can set the number of days to 7 or so? (or, even better for me.... can that be set as default in the rom??)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hobolooter:
I have another strange issue. The background in apps that should be white, ie texting is all gray. IS there an easy way to correct this. It does not seem to be theme related.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bfspider:
You should probably be using 6.1 for stability. There's a reason why there is a new build every week for 6.5. I have yet to come across a 6.5 build that is bug free.