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[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] .hEiMDaLL.:
JUST A SMALL UPDATE TO PREVIOUS POST:

maybe it will take 2 or three days more for the next version.

having some problems with the toggler at the moment.

next version will have a lot more features :)

a short preview what will come:

switch to manila (tf3d)

switch to titanium (windows default)

switch to mobileshell; hide mobileshell; show mobileshell

new loader for mobileshell

smart toggling between all 3 (if installed) or only 2 if mobileshell isnt installed (determined automatically)

soft-reset

rotatescreen 90 degrees (shortcut)

rotatescreen 270 degrees (shortcut)

rotatescreen all views with menu

and (i hope i could finish this) a big tweak package ;)

thinking about a wifi, bt, radio toggler too
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] mike2nl:
hi .hEiMDaLL.,

any progress in your work yet? Are you working on an update for your uesefull app? Please give us a short info...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jay.blackwell:
I've got a broken screen and I'm hung up on the screen align. I placed welcome.not on the sd card root but still get hung up at the screen align when reseting.

Thanks for any help...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jay.blackwell:
I guess I should be more spcific. I had a cracked screen and did a hard reset forgetting about having to calibrate the screen after doing so.

searched for a solution and found the welcome.not workaround.

went out, bought an sd card put a notepad file named "welcome.not" in the root. Fired it up and I'm still getting the calibrate screen prompt. I'm stuck. Come on nerds ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ASCIIker:
probably because it is actually incorrectly named "welcome.not.txt" instead of the correct "welcome.not"

you should know that desktop windows (2000, xp, vista, etc) usually HIDE the file extension by default...this means that while you THINK you have named the file "welcome.not", it is actually named "welcome.not.txt". a symptom of this problem is that the icon you see for such incorrectly named files is the regular notepad text icon, which means it has a ".txt" extension.

if the above is true in your case, this means i am correct and i am a nerd...but it also means you are a super noob :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jay.blackwell:
you sir receive a "tip of the cap" and a "golf clap", albeit from a complete nOOb.

thanks....
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mcmasterp:
I know I didn't invent the wheel or anything but I always wanted a way to send the .cab files I find here straight to my phone and couldn't find a way so I created the site: http://sendtophone.info

basically it gives you a badge for people to click, it sends the link to the cab to their phone over txt. I also made a firefox extension so you can click on any link anywhere and send it to your phone. full details are on the site including a code generator for the lazy among us.

Just thought I'd give back a little, you guys are welcome to use it. You have given me countless awesome apps and top notch advice.

Example:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] @rj*n:
i wont be eager to use this or give my phone no/details online but maybe others might find this useful!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] TheBundo:
I just download the file and email it to my phone. Why get another party involved?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] orlandojumpoff:
i guess it's another way to be able to dl from your phone, but if i'm on a computer, i just send an IM with the link to my mobile aim name, which sends a text to my phone.

edit: actually, how does this work? do you get charged for sending the text from you site? and i'm assuming you can send any links...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] solidkundi:
i think he's using some sorta script from their website (ie.att.com)

I wish this site supported Rogers....wink wink...nudge nudge :rolleyes:

but for now i use msn ...which stopped recently...gotta get that working again....
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] the0ne:
Nice idea have added it here : http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2009/07/13/send-to-phone-a-site-to-send-links-to-your-ppc-via-sms.html
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mcmasterp:
Glad some find it useful. Just to let you know we do not store ANY info. we have no logs, no database, nothing. the only info that COULD be saved is your phone number & carrier can be saved in a cookie on YOUR computer. hope that makes people feel better. I wrote the script with privacy in mind for people like xda users.

If your carrier isn't listed go to our about page to send us a message.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mcmasterp:
RE:

Bundo: I also downloaded and emailed, but its 2009! "they" should have this worked out by now. and most importantly I'm lazy and impatient.

downloading, watching emails send, waiting to receive, downloading again all suck. I love it every time I use it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] regis.stration:
Too much security !!

I like this a lot, but find it a slow drag to have to type the two words! Since you can select to create a cookie, can you skip the security if cookies is checked?

By no means an expert, so this may be a dumb question. :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mcmasterp:
well with bots the way they are no, i can't remove the captcha. maybe if I think of some other way. but no promises
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] regis.stration:
Now that I think about it a little more . . . . I'm on board. :p
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mcmasterp:
glad to hear it!

tell me by rogers do u mean rogers wireless in canada?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] player911:
I'm pretty proficient in php. Does this just send an email to yournumber@carrier.info (ex 1112223333@wireless.att.com)?

So you only send the link... not the actual file?

Pretty cool stuff. If it is php it doesn't need much to run so it should be pretty safe. I'm just wondering if it comes across as a message or an email. Would be cool to just send the whole file, but it would be a lot more complicated and require uploading files (which can get bad).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mcmasterp:
yeah its just simple php. it sends the link as a txt message. i wish i could send the actualfile! it works pretty well, i use the firefox addon i made so it works on every link everywhere
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] chris10230:
Looks like a good plan any chance of adding support for O2-UK? Or is it stuck to US networks?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] player911:
it would work on any carrier that allows xxxxxxxxxx@yourcarrier message conversions. He just has to know the ending so he can add it to the drop down box.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] TheBundo:
Well, what if the file is later pulled from the internet, or you can't find it again? If you first download it to your computer, then you have a permanent backup in case of phone failure or loss, as well as an easy way to send it to friends.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ljinsane:
very cool ...good job!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] YoungSinema:
Incredibly useful....See what searching does?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] xtremekilla09:
DAMN!!

What is the word or letter limit in XDA forums?

Our Touch Pro is way better, you'll be coming back crying, yadda-yadda-yadda.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] ducklord:
See? See how disappointed I am? I'm mr. writesalot!

Best regards

Ducklord
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Sparkz914:
Still love mines....iphone in my eyes is a childs toy just a bunch of flashy things to take your mind off what it lacks....Wow my iPhone can cook dinner for me with this app,but then again to MMS i have to pay another $600 to get a new model of the phone when I just bought a 3G 6 months ago.....and I get no warranty....Tell me how the iphone is better when everytime they add new things that should've been on the phone from the start you have to buy a new model to have?MMS,Video,Teethering
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] skyau:
Honestly, you make a lot of good points.

I've had similar experiences with people using the iphone in the same ways. It may be nothing more than an "application launcher" but the applications actually do something useful, quickly.

I don't like the iphone. I don't like apple. As a matter of fact I actually hate both of them very much... but I see your point and I'm almost as fed up as you are.

I'm looking forward to hearing what people reply with.

The Microsoft store may alleviate some of this, hopefully, but I'm not holding my breath. My plan is to wait for the next generation of phones, see if HTC still screws everyone over with drivers or other ass-hattery, and make a decision then.

Incidentally I have a Jornada 568 from 2002 that runs emulated games as well as my Fuze, plays Mp3s without stuttering (while using an external keyboard to write short stories with), plays video without tearing, and has a standard headphone jack. If I could I would just stick a phone in it and use that instead.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] milan80:
hey ducklord, sorry to hear about ur misery. I own a touch pro, and i find it to be quite perfect.. perhaps with a good set of ROM. Why don't you try out EnergyROM magic (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=530882)? It works like a charm for me...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] ducklord:
From what the afformentioned friend told me, "no-mms" is a problem of AT&T or some other provider that offers the iPhone in the States. To prove it, he sent me an MMS "giving me the finger". He's on Cosmote (Greek Provider), and uses a totally un-tweaked, locked, out-of-the-box iPhone.

As I told you, no-mms is not an issue. Tethering, if you mean "having access to the Internets from your laptop through your phone" -IS- a problem, witch though can be solved by buying a USB/PCMCIA/Something GPRS modem. For about 30 euros. On the other hand, not 30, not 50, not 400 euros can make my Touch Pro something more useful than a brick. You mean, you REALLY use tethering all the time? You REALLY use video conference? The rates are sky-high here in Greece - 10 video calls would cost the same as the damn phone! Ah, and here's another point where iPhone (and almost any other device) is better: was your Touch Pro usable out of the box? Want me to point you to other posts by other users that say how much it sucked until they installed a custom Rom (and thus lost its warranty)? THIS is how a device is supposed to work? By exchanging its official warranty with a custom-cooked ROM, created by people that, up to a point, are GUESSING what-should-work (and they're doing a great job at that)... For Baal's shake, cooks, developers and lots of users are prowling the insides of other phones to find drivers witch they'll be able to tweak so that our damn brick will be able to play videoclips and long-forgotten-emulators like 3-year-old devices do! I mean, gosh, HTC should PAY XDA Developers for making their phone bearable! But, ofcourse, you are happy... No video, no speed, sluggish loading and typing, godawful GPS, no useful apps whatsoever... But you have tethering. Somehow, I don't quite believe you.

AAAND, ladies and gentleman, that's the whole point. Even with all the other problems, IF, and thats the most important thing, IF our phone had some really useful AND easy-to-use apps, that other phones didn't, or IF it excelled in some way, the situation would be bearable. Its not just that its hardware sucks, its insulting that we can't run (and use) stuff on it!

And please, if any programmer is reading this, the place is called XDA Developers. Please, DEVELOP something. No, tweaking the interface isn't "developing", it's "tweaking". And although I don't know anything about programming, I'd be more than happy to "develop" graphics for a useful app.

Best regards

Ducklord
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] mike21pr:
hahaha took the words out of my mouth... they say that WM has thousands of apps but from what i see its, 1000 half-done interfaces / 5000 tweaks, customizers, and "fixes" and 50 somewhat of apps ready to use that does at least something other than what the phone could already do but wanted to make it look "pretty" like a new contact manager, dialer, etc.

on the other hand the iphone has their own job search app, NBA play by play app, and more things other than what the phone could already do in the first place

im worried about "Marketplace" as well cuz there are multiple screen resolutions, models, and kinds of WM devices that the compatibility will not be all there when it comes to all the apps
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] skyau:
I want to clarify that as unimpressed with the Fuze as I am, I am more than impressed and grateful for all the work done for it by the people here on XDA.

I'm glad to have a repository of software, knowledge, and development like this.

It makes me wonder what could be done with a machine that didn't need to be fixed or flashed right out of the box.

My problems with this phone stem from AT&T, HTC themselves, and to a lesser extent Microsoft. I appreciate that there's such a supportive community cleaning up these three company's messes.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] ducklord:
Well, I'm grateful for XDA, but not for "all the work they've done for Touch Pro". No, I'm not whining or disregarding their work, it's just that I had the idea they really squeezed the life out of my Tytn, but they give me the impression that they've just touched the surface of Touch Pro.

Best regards

Ducklord
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] kwambewright:
Patience

May be you just need some patience. How long has the TyTn been out compared to the TP? As for me, I have very little experience with the iPhone but my Fuze(unlocked and on T-Mobile) has very little delay in any program. I am running 1 of the best ROMs (imho), NRG's wonderful magic series.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] pazookie:
who cares about the iphone..i just got the palm pre for my business device and man its such a relief..i still have my fuze but find myself using it less and less..its so nice to have a device not have so many issues..and just work the way i need it to..and i know webOS is still young but man i think its gonna be the next big thing..ill never give up on windows mobile though...it may be not up to the times in GUI but its an old bull and knows what its doing..but for now i need something that works with the times so my Pre is my main device for now..im still flashing every new rom NRG puts out tho on my fuze lol and ive gotten to tap into my linux side with rooting my Pre and doing all the hacks
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] ducklord:
NRGs ROMs are what my Touch Pro runs, and although quite fast in the TouchFlo 3D department, loading and running apps takes a lot of time for my taste. And just think that NRGs is one of the fastest ROMs but, still, Touch Pro can't match the usage speed of Tytn (I mean in the interface department), not even counting the 5 to 15 seconds for an app to load (5 to 10 seconds for the camera? The subject of the photo will be dead and gone until the snap is taken!). And even if you put up with this sluginess... Where are the apps? After posting the 1st message I did a visit to "the usual places" to see what's new in WM world... The joy is unimaginable! Three new versions of the same 'ol SPB software, a "smart calculator" and a stopwatch... Great...

As for the Pre, well, when your wage is arround 700-900 euros and a phone like those we're talking about costs from 600 to 1200 euros... Let's just say I'm stuck with this brick for two-three more years. Ahrgh... Teh pains...

Best regards

Ducklord

PS: How, tell me, HOW hard would it be to create two simple, decent apps, one for taking Notes and one for managing Tasks? I'd be in heaven if I found two, just these two apps, that loaded fast, where Touch Friendly and could sync with Outlook. Or some GTD apps. Or some productivity ones. That could sync with our PC. Heck, I bought a WINDOWS MOBILE device so as to sync to my WINDOWS PC. And an Apple phone has more apps that sync with outlook. And better.

PS2: Have you realized how shafted we are from anyone and any company? Evernote for WM is the only decent notes-taking app I found. And, SPECIFICALLY in WM, you have to have a data connection active to use it. No local notes and syncing later. No local storage, no local search. After we payed one wage for out phone, we have to pay another one in data costs to use it! Ack! De Happines! De Joy!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] pazookie:
have you tried thumbcal? it is a finger friendly GUI and it replaces the wm standard calender and tasks and i believe you can take notes down too..and so if you have an exchange server setup (i use mail2web) then itl sync everything and you can sync outlook to your exchange too and there you have device to pc seemless syncing and then i used this regedit whch i made to use thumbcal when you tap a shortcut that uses a hard wired shortcut (like tf3d)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] pazookie:
yah once htc shifted from TI OMAP to Qualcomm MSMxxxx processors things went downhill...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] kyoon19:
I dunno I have a sprint touch pro and on mighty rom wm6.5 and I love it. It's as fast as my gf's iphone. My phone is alot better than hers except playing music. Plus, I can't stand looking at the screen of iphone! The resolution is really bad and I get a headache!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] kyoon19:
I dunno why you have to wait to load a note program because it doesn't have any loading for me. I can write and save in no time. Also, when you open the keyboard there is a shortcut for notes. You can always assign your talk button as a note program too. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] mindfrost82:
I'll admit that there are some delays when switching apps, and some apps take longer to load than others.

You do realize that there are other apps out there besides what's on this site don't you? There are literally thousands of apps out there. Look at Handandgo for example.

My ROM has PocketNotepad cooked in. As soon as I open it, it opens me to a blank notepad and I can start typing right away. It opens in 1-2 seconds for me, which I think is reasonable.

I don't use tasks, so I can't really speak for that side of it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] lukesky:
i dont find energyroms particularly fast, not sure why everyone says its fast. it's definitely not faster compared to a tweaked lite rom. but i guess with the eye candy and full suite of apps, it's relatively fast.

I tried launching notepad and it took less than 2 secs to be able to write a new note. if it's that slow on your phone, your phone obviously has issues.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] bedobela:
Partially agree

On the first few days I was thinking the same because I've been waiting for a phone like this for ages and here in Romania it costs more then double of an average salary so you can imagine that people get scared once they give out so much money on a single device which doesn't behave as it should. In fact it has quite a few bugs but still wouldn't change it for the iPhone...

Notes application starts in about 2 seconds for me and energyRom is decently fast - I wish I could remove that colourful taskbar though because I hate it and no one gave me an answer how to change it. Even tried one method and had to reflash the device. Anyway...

The GPS problem pisses me off because I thought it's as good as the one from the Diamond but turns out to be awful. I use IGO8 and it sucks. It locks on my position in about 10 minutes. Not good at all.

The camera is not bad, music is decent, but those aren't things that smart-phones are famous for...

Overall I am happy with this device, or should I say I have no other choice then to be happy with it and would like to thank the people from XDA Developers for their time and for correcting the errors that Microsoft should had corrected. Waiting for new apps and as ducklord said - I can help designing some of the apps so if any developer needs design, we're here. I'm not good at programming though.

Bela
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] krook6023:
I don’t hate the i-phone. I even recommend it to my less techie friends and they love it. If I had bought an i-phone first I would probably not have any problems with it…it’s a good phone. But I bought a WinMo Phone and now I will never go back…if I did not take the leap to cooked ROMS I would have probably have phone envy…but I have no envy!!! Apple controls the i-phone…I actually control my Touch Pro…so for me that is enough…
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] 8525Smart:
:D

You know, at one point, while reading your post, I actually had to go back up to the top to check if I had been the one who made this topic, and simply forgot about it. The reason why is because we seem to similar.

I also came into the world of Windows Mobile with the TYTN and, likewise, after doing much research, I snapped up the chance to purchase a Touch Pro. I'd imagine that my shock was as great as yours at how radically poor the performance on this device really was.

(Side Note: I had also made a topic regarding the speed/fluidity of using the TP/Windows Mobile and guess which phone I praised in the same topic? Yes, the iPhone.)

Of course, I knew about the drivers issue the TP had and I also read reports that it would be slow, but I really did not realize the level to which this reach. It was worse than I imagined. After flashing a new ROM, the issue became much, much better, however.

Do I regret my purchase? Not necessarily. Perhaps my knowledge that performance would not be top notched has helped soften the blow, but I think the advantages the TP offered over the, admittedly awesome, TYTN really makes the purchase worthy. The VGA resolution and higher specs, including accelerometer and GPS, really pays off.

Nonetheless, I will also admit that while I don't regret my TP purchase, the lack of good performance has really made me re-evaluate future HTC purchases knowing that they do not seem intent on changing their ways. Many people here seems to depend on XDA to forever solve the problem of HTC/Qualcomm, but that seems like a horrid idea. I don't see why can't the talent here be concentrated around a great device to make it better as opposed to a bad device to repair its issues; in the latter, you're just saving the companies money and allowing them to continue bad practices.

*Sigh*

Oh well, what can one do? I do confess that at certain times, I wonder to myself that if I had knew what I know now about the Touch Pro, would I have kept the TYTN instead?

Pointless pondering, I know, and all I can really do at this point is hope that the ROM community around the TP becomes as great as that for the TYTN. Another thing I never quite understood is why the TYTN ROMs seems to have such an enormous variety as opposed to the TP's ROMs.

P.S. I made a mistake as there does appear to be one big difference between us. You made no mention of the speakers/audio quality in your original post. However, this was one of the big things for me with the Touch Pro. The TYTN's speakers sounded decent and was loud, especially when placed on a table. The TP's speakers, on the other hand, is very quiet (and is actually muted when placed on a table) and audio sounds worse off for it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] flinx1:
You can sync one-note from PC to the phone. The only problem is that in order to handle multiple devices, once you reflash your phone, onenote creates a new tab. You then have to move the pages from the old tab to the new one for the sync to work.

I actually think some of the complaints here are simply because people don't know how to effectively use their phone. Loading of apps can also be sped up by compressing the executable files. GPS fix speed can be improved by flashing a newer radio ROM - also remember that some apps don't proper initialize the GPS (Tomtom) and so you may need to start up another program that does first. Once that's done I get fixes in 10 seconds or less.