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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] erenken:
Yeah this is the most annoying thing I have ever seen. There must be a way to turn it off. I use Ford Sync and really don't want to have to worry about my phone being locked or unlocked. Seems like this goes against all those phone laws. You are making me look at my phone first to make sure it isn't locked before I can safely dial.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] geoWorm:
Wish I had found this thread before I went ahead with getting a Tilt 2. Didn't have this problem with my Tilt.

Is this a WM6.5 limitation? Hopefully there is an obscure setting that I'm too stupid to find.

Cheers
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] XDA2-owner:
... and I was just about to ask on this thread whether or not this was still a problem in WM6.5 but I guess I have my answer now.

It's definitely an issue in WM6.0
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] geoWorm:
I contacted AT&T and they said to contact HTC.

HTC gave me this answer:

Thank you for contacting HTC Technical Assistance Center. I apologize for the length of time it took me to respond to your email. I understand how important it can be to use Bluetooth from your device when your device is locked. I will be happy to address the concern for you.

There is not a setting on your ATT Tilt 2 for enabling Bluetooth when your device is locked. When pairing Bluetooth with your vehicle your device must remain unlocked to use the correct functionality. I would suggest placing your device into hibernation mode and keeping your device in a carrying case.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] billy_batch:
Hi,

I have upgraded by TP2 with the offical HTC rom for 6.5 and installed my blackberry connect 1.06 client. Now, even with the BB lock enforced, as it was with the TP2 using 6.0 and it is working perfectly handsfree in my CAR, locked or not. Previously the TP2 with the stock 6.0 ROM wouldn't make calls when locked.

If people are reporting here that is didn't work in 6.5, then there must be a registry setting somewhere to enable or disable it.

I am just happy that I can make a call in the car, without having to pull over and unlock my phone.

If someone can give me a hint as to where in the registry to look I can compare some settings?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RemE:
I have a stock AT&T Tilt-2, I loaded loaded "smartlock 1.7" to autolock the phone at power off and also when "in-call" to avoid random dialing. I don't use the PIN for locking.

I can dial hands free BT in my car and with headsets with no issues, power on/off whatever.

Maybe it'd disabled when locked with the PIN?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ingrambw:
I am seeing the same issue with two of my users:

One is using a Verizon Wireless TP2 with MW6.1 stock ROM

The other is using an Unlocked HTC touch Pro 2, on the AT&T wireless network (not a Tilt2) with the HTC WM6.5 ROM upgrade.

The Verizon users is using Sync on his Ford Vehical. The other is using whatever system is in his BMW.

Both can pair with the car's system, but if the phone is locked with a PIN the user is not able to place a call without first unlocking the phone.

Has anyone found any information on this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] agentdr8:
If MSVC is an option then it has the ability to dial while password protected.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] InkZ:
Just noticed this has been bumped. I upgraded all of our phones to the standard Windows Mobile 6.5 from Vodafone when it came out a month ago and this problem is now resolved you'll be glad to know.

I've got 25 handsets currently working fine with no real issues. All the niggles that I had have gone away with 6.5 so it's definately worth the upgrade.

6.1 was screwed and no use with handsfree dialing if you use windows lock which we enforce on our exchange server.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] geoWorm:
Seems like every provider is a little different.

I have the AT&T Tilt 2 which came with WM6.5, AT&T support claims its a Microsoft and HTC problem. HTC claims its a Microsoft problem.

Anyone have a good support link to Microsoft to get this problem resolved?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] black88mx6:
Can someone with a working 6.5 rom please post the following registry info to see if there is a way to enable the bluetooth dialing on the roms that are not working?

HKLM\Software\Widcomm\General

When you get the unable to dial message it puts a new key in there called DontAskHfpCallFailOnDeviceLock and I figure that the bypass might be in this same area.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] erenken:
Registry

Here is everything under the BTConfig\General section.

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\WIDCOMM\BTConfig\General]

"StackMode"=dword:00000001

"DeviceName"="HTC-ST7377"

"BDAddr"=hex:\

00,23,76,37,a9,89

"BlockBTIfHopper"=dword:00000001

"SendCompressedTelProperties"=dword:00000001

"UsePocketPCName"=dword:00000000

"UnnamedDeviceName"="<No Name>"

"UartPriority"=dword:00000096

"TransmitPriority256"=dword:00000098

"SuspendWithScoConnected"=dword:00000001

"SuspendTimeout"=dword:00001388

"SndPriority"=dword:0000009b

"SecurityType"=dword:00000002

"SCODelayTime"=dword:000007d0

"ReceivePriority256"=dword:00000097

"RadioInitLibrary"="BRCMInit.dll"

"PowerControlLibrary"="Serial_BTUR_DM.Dll"

"PCRemoteAutoConfig"=dword:00000001

"OriginalAudioDriver"="wavedev.dll"

"KeepStackLoaded"=dword:00000001

"EnableAFH"=dword:00000001

"DiscoverableTimeout"=dword:0000003c

"DeviceInactivityDuration"=dword:0000003c

"ConnectRelatedDefault"=dword:00000000

"BIPEnabled"=dword:00000001

"AFHAvoidedChannels"=dword:00000014
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mnunes:
erenken,

Thanks for the info. The only item different on my 6.5 Tilt2 is that I also have a key "DontAskHfpCallFailOnDeviceLock"=1. Sounded very promising.

Unfortunately, changing this key to 0 and even deleting it doesn't make a difference: I still cannot dial via bluetooth while the phone is locked with a pin. I tried these changes both with and without a soft reset between.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DaBody1:
mnunes:

Were you able to find a fix for this? I am in the same boat. :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mnunes:
No, so far no luck. I can't say I've been looking very hard, though. It's one of those things I've started to learn to live with, as annoying as it is.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] papamarik:
Here is an extended battery and door for Verizon HTC Touch Pro. It is 1800mAh and from personal experience, you really need an extended battery. The standard battery just doesn't last enough.

http://www.msgdigital.com/productdetail.asp?productid=48085
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] 96cobra:
I bought my extended battery and door direct from Verizon. Was only ~$35 and both are HTC brand.

Roger
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ktemkin:
[APP] XDApp- XDA-Devs on your phone! Releasing 'Nightly' pre-Alphas. (Latest V:00230)

Most Recent Screenshots:

Rhodium/manila like theme:

(Rhodium Manila-like theme.)

Original XDA Theme:

iPhone-like Theme:

Bounty:

Currently at: $176

jmckeejr: paid! for a fully functioning app with at least abilty to reply to posts without waiting for 5 minutes and trying to chase Opera around to see what I'm typing.

dnieman13: $10

apreichner: $5

codybear: $5 Around $5 if it works with Windows Mobile 6.5 and works better than using the Opera browser

uniqueboy: paid!

krook6023: $15 for a working version with all the bells and whistles described

akp99: $10

Bijdehandje: $35 Exact: € 25 For a working Kaiser version that is a quality and complete app

greeneyemonstruo: paid!

acidbath5546: $10

sinoo: $7 Exact: 5€ for a reliable and fully functional tool

jor3l: $10

x|Lukas|x: $14 Exact: €10

If you'd like to, you can add to the bounty. It's completely optional, as I write applications because I enjoy programming, not for money.

Also, if you'd like, you can donate using the link in my signature (via PayPal). The money will be used to pay for the server I currently use for testing and soon will be using to provide an optimizing, compressing, streamlining proxy to reduce your forum load-times.

Many thanks for generous donations from: ljinsane, uniqueboy, greeneyemonstruo, jmckeejr, mostberg, SoundMind.us
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ktemkin:
Compression Statistics:

These compression statistics are without any server-side streamlining. (Compression is server-side.)

This page:

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Many thanks to:

Those who have pledged to the bounty. At the time of your donation, you will be thanked here.

ace10134- who started this whole movement, and is thus responsible for bringing this app to you guys in the first place.

Jenn, who has been unendingly patient while I sit here coding instead of paying attention to her.

Preview Releases:

First Feature Preview (password protected ZIP file, not for general public)

If you're interested in testing 'feature previews', go ahead and shoot me an e-mail (kyle@ktemkin.com) with the subject line "feature tester". Debugging experience helps, but isn't necessary.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] B4PJS:
Showing a bit of interest here (Plus Im not too bad at reverse engineering ;))
[Windows Mobile Software Development] jmckeejr:
Good to see progress being made :D. I'll be sending you an email soon(hope I can help) and I'll get that donation ready ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ace10134:
Ok, I got the old thread all set up to be locked.

No one make a post on the old thread!!! I'm waiting for it to be locked, and I want the thread re-direction to be the last post. Thanks to everyone who showed interest/donated/motivated/etc. And the biggest thanks to the developer.

Now keep this thread up to date!!! And a working version to test would be awesome.

Thanks everyone,

Andrew
[Windows Mobile Software Development] 8525Smart:
:D

Can't believe it. I've been lurking around this site for over a year and this is the first time I saw the XDA 'bounty' (I've only recently heard about it at all).

Anyway, this is an interesting concept. I'm pretty much fine with using Opera Mini to browse XDA, but this could potentially turn out great. I hope all the best to you and your work, Ktemkin!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] sinoo:
+5€ for a reliable and fully functional tool!

Can't wait to try it!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] l3v5y:
Looking very good. :)

I closed the old thread, and stickied this one instead of the old one.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] topsign:
I found this, what you are doing is what they have done.

3Gtan---A great web Browser for forum

unfortunately its in Chinese
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Mandragore:
Looks promising, well done!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ace10134:
5 Euros is about $7 USD, (7.11540 USD), when you update the bounty.

Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ktemkin:
That seems to work pretty well, but, unfortunately:

-is Completely in Chinese.

-is Closed Source

-takes up a lot of the screen with useless icons and buttons.

-doesn't support downloads/uploads, or most of the advanced features planned for the XDApp project.

Might be useful for people to use in the interim- if they can figure out how to use it.

---

On a more XDApp-related note, I have a few questions for the end-user:

1) Icons: are they worth the screen space? They would only be 5-6 pixels wide (10-12 on double VGA systems), and they'd appear in the following places:

-In front of posts, displaying the the 'new', 'popular', 'you replied here', etc. icons.

-Real icons for things like quote and edit. Right now, the design is that you quote, edit, reply, etc. by right clicking (click and hold) and selecting that option from a menu. Would finger-sized icons in each post be better?

2) Mobile posts- when posting from the a mobile phone, should the XDApp (have an option to) auto-insert a small icon on each post it makes? For example, a post from a mobile phone might look like:

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Just checking up on the status of the project. Looking forward to your next ROM release!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] jor3l:
is planed a multilang interface? would be cool and i can help with translations if needed
[Windows Mobile Software Development] zelendel:
I for one like the Icon for mobile post. +1 for the right click option as it will not take as long to load on older devices without the icons.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ace10134:
1) - Icons in front of the posts aren't exactly necessary. I guess they could be nice, but I'd rather be able to read more text on the screen instead. The icons are rather small, though, so it's no big deal.

- About the "Quote" and "Edit" buttons...I say that the right clicking method is awesome! Otherwise seeing all of those "Quote" and "Edit" buttons on every single post is repetative. I like your right-clicking method. 1 vote for that.

2) the Mobile post thing is a cool idea, and you might as well have the option. But, a better location for the icon...You know how you can pick an icon for your reply? Such as how I picked the Cool Sunglasses Smiley? If we could somehow replace that with a mobile phone icon, that would be perfectly ideal. But, we'd have to get the Admins to do that. So...I'm for having the option of putting the "Mobile" icon, just like how you showed in the example.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] jor3l:
hmm 2 qstions, 1. will have multilang support? and 2. you are doing a server side work or the app donwload the page and then fix it for the phone? :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] krook6023:
Good to see this is moving right along!!

Icons....are a good question...is pushing a icon that much more functional than right clicking? Icons for for things like quote and edit might give a more ascetic or native look but IMO they would add little to the usability. Icons in front of posts...I really don't care either way...and the Mobile Post thing is a very cool idea....ktemkin...I like the way you think...this app is going to be awesome!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] greeneyemonstruo:
This just keeps getting better and better. Up my pledge to $25 for a little extra motivation.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ace10134:
Ktemin should be putting your bounty in the pot soon.

Ktemin (or however you spell that), you should put the bounty in the Thread Title, like it used to be. Well, actually, the bounty doesn't matter anymore, nvm then.

But, everyone, should we have buttons for "Quote", "Edit", etc? Or do you want to access those features by right clicking on the post, and then clicking them? By using the right-click method, we save space. By using the buttons method, we have quicker access. What do you think? (just repeating Ktemin's question).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] krook6023:
I installed and used the last widget...then flashed a new ROM and I am using the new widget...both work fine for me...since I flashed (hard reset) I have not tried uninstalling...that might be the hang up. In general I wanted to say that the widget is working pretty well. I find my self using it alot. Nice Work!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ktemkin:
That'd be a problem with your build of WM6.5; not much I can do about that. Did you guys run the enabler cab or not?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] acc49ers:
I did run the enabler cab. I can install other widgets just fine and I even had the previous xda widget installed. Just can't install the new one. It could be the ROM I guess. The current ROM I am using is below.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] akp99:
Same - I did run the installer... damn...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Bijdehandje:
I have tried to install the enabler allso and after that "installed" the widget. But when i try to start the widget i get a blank screen.

I tried this on a 21500 build 6.5. I know there are several newer builds but most of them don't work as fine as i find the one which im using right now.

Any solution?

:Edit:

I forgot to mention... Im using IRIS as my default browser but allso tried to set IE as my default browser and still it gives me a blank screen.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ktemkin:
How many of you like surprises?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ace10134:
I guess only I do :rolleyes:

(And I got my Touch Pro 2, so I get to use the app and it'll scroll like normal! My new phone is boss, and your app will be extra-boss with my phone. Suprise me!)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] graey:
Nope, I do too:p
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Zahurtex:
Me Too!;) I guess.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ace10134:
The suprise is that there is no suprise...lol
[Windows Mobile Software Development] DatDereX1:
I hate surprises
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ace10134:
so, what's the suprise?? Is this it...

-Unique 'superheader' view organizes forums, making it easier to navigate the forums!

I didn't see that on the front page before.

Or is the suprise that you have been editing and posting all from your phone? I've been doing that with Opera Mobile, lol.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ktemkin:
Nope, that's not the surprise. It's much, much better than just a single feature. Look at the stuff that's done or almost done.

As for an ETA for this surprise, how about... this week?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ace10134:
It's lightning fast? 80% faster? I thought that was already done. I'm not seeing anything, lol. Edit: Where's Waldo? :)

Is it just that a more complete app will be released this week?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ktemkin:
That's in the 'near complete' category. That means the backend for the full version is a lot further along.

Expect the lite version this week, if all goes well. It'll let you post, view, edit, and everything, all lightning-fast from your device.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ace10134:
Oh, I thought that was just like those ones that I was testing earlier. Lol. That's no suprise to me. I got my TP2, so I'm blazing fast now. But, I'm sure my old Wing community will be happy to hear that! I'll tell them once it's released.

But you are really doing a lot, to please everyone. Website, Widget, App, Light-App, etc. This is really incredible. There is honestly no better developer. This is amazing. Thanks for it all!!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ktemkin:
Lite version is 70% up and running on WM6.1 and earlier; WM6.5 lacks touchscreen control in the post view due to (possibly non-finalized?) changes to the .NET controls in 6.5. (Certain controls do not display scroll bars, but also lack touch scrolling.).

I think I'll be able to work around it by utilizing the COM interop, in the mean time the D-pad works fine.

Optimistically, one could see an alpha on Monday night and a beta by the end of the week.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Bijdehandje:
I like suprises allso allthough i don't think it isn't a suprise anymore huh :rolleyes: LOL
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ktemkin:
Post-view is working like a charm in the lite app, and it's miles faster the mobi site, Opera Mobile, or even Opera Mini.

I'm hoping for an Alpha for all my testers tomorrow, which means I'll be sending out quite a few testing invites.

If you've sent me an e-mail about the app- one that's unrelated to testing- I'm sorry I haven't been able to get back to you yet. I've been absolutely flooded with XDApp related e-mail.

Now that the core functionality is almost done, I'd love it if you guys would tell me which features you think are the most important- these are the ones I'll be developing first.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] krook6023:
Great news...can't wait to test the Alpha...I have some ideas for features bit I will hold my tounge until I test the latest version...thanks for your work.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ace10134:
Viewing your unread posts is a must for me. That'll act as a replacement for e-mail messages from XDA. So, I'd say that that would be the next step for the app. Agree/disagree??
[Windows Mobile Software Development] danthman2000:
Agree

+1 for View Unread. Also favorites, or something, like to jump to your most viewed threads?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ktemkin:
I just finished creating a view that shows you all of your new subscribed threads. That should pretty much be a 1-to-1 replacement with the XDA notification e-mails, right?

I'm looking into the best way to execute a "posts since last visit" view as we speak.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ace10134:
Yep, it'll be a 1-1 replacement. I'm happy :)

But idk about the jumping to your unread post. I'm fine if it just scrolls down, and maybe has the post's background color set to a deeper silver or something, to differenciate from unread? I'll be happy if it just auto-scrolls to the unread post. That should be fairly easy??
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dannio:
cant wait, thank heavens for people like you guys!