yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
Since Throy is the chef for his ROMs, he can publish them wherever he wants, I don't think you or I or anyone else has any say in this. If you like his ROMs then you abide by his decision, if you don't, as you say, there are plenty of other options available on XDA.

XDA is a valuable source of information for our WM devices and it will stay that way. Whatever Throy's reasons are that's his choice. What difference does it make to you where you get his work from?

As for your first sentence, just because he gave his work freely (actually still does) doesn't mean you can take it for granted and even if he feels he wants to charge for his hard work, that's his choice. Your choice is not to use his ROM if you don't like it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] douloudis:
i am sorry for my question but i am kinda new in this world. anyway i tried openind the link you gave me but it doesnt work. i'll try in the mean time to find it bymyself but with a bit of help i'll get to it sooner

thanx anyway
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
This issue has been discussed several times in this thread. If you want the Manila Programs tab, you have to install Tom's Extended Menu, it's also included in Dutty's cab repository.

laidbackfreak, the search link you gave indeed doesn't work and you can't really just enable the programs tab until you install Tom's program, so cut the guy some slack, after all he did say he was new to flashing :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] anjuajax:
I fully agree with Makbil. One has a better chance to show his talents, why not? But at the same time appreciate if moderators can update this post with his latest developings on other sites so that ardant followers can follow him there as well. My best wishes for Dutty for his upcoming releases. He is the best !
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] adrianmak:
How do record phone call ?

I found dutty's rom packaged with incall recorder but when during a phone call and press the menu of the phone dailer and cannot find something like "Recording" from menu.

Should additional cab/app need to be installed ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
There is another option that works well for the programs tab. I did not use Tom's menu as it was believed to cause some issues with the Dusk theme images in the Start menu background. I used this solution which works jusr as well (it just takes a little more effort)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gaiden:
+1 that....

heyy we all here can learn from here we all get the benefits of it... i know dutty's efforts to learn well from his early posts... he started by collecting the cabs making our lives easier... and yet till now he continues do so with his roms...

someone who interested take him as part of a development team?? anything wrong with that? we dont know if he get paid or not... say he does... so what? he did make the efforts to achieve that... i think dutty deserve that... and keep in mind he still release his rom for free isn't... he spent his time to give benefits to other people...

and i dont think dutty will leave this forum for good though XDA is the biggest and i still think it will... knowledge sharing in this website is beyond comparison...

i have joined the other forum to get duttys work :) nothing wrong with that.... and when you join we can see its not only dutty that move....

good chef will come and go... one go a new one will born.... and yet we have lots of superb chef in stock...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Well said m8. I could not agree more with your and makbils sentiments.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] duttythroy:
Dutty's HD WM6.5 Leo R1 Test Change log [ Coming Tonight ] [08.08.09]

The Rom will be exclusively reelase @ htcpedia.com

[FONT="Arial"]• [SIZE="3"]Change to Stock HTC Leo Build 5.2.23008
• Updated Applications and Drivers, these are some listed below.
• Updated HTC Audio Manager
• Updated HTC Camera
• Updated HTC Comm. Manager with Voice mail, band switching and call forwarding also fixed voicemail set up from previous ROMs.
• Updated HTC Email Setup Wizard
• Updated HTC Keyboard version V2.1
• Updated HTC New Contact Card
• Updated HTC Streaming Media
• Updated HTC Volume Control
• Updated Manila 2.5 and associate OEM packages.
• New manila 2.5 supports landscape in ALBUM and Music tabs.
• Added new HTC Setup Wizard which will auto start and will help to Pre-Config device, if You have SIM PIN enabled you need to input at first start up screen
• Added Mobile Wi-Fi Router to Com Manager, to activate first time just run it in Connectivity folder first.
• Internet Explorer view mode set to Desktop.
• Remove Google Maps from ROM, Cab will be available.
• Remove SPB Screenshot will be available as Cab.
• Remove Tom Extended Menu will be available as Cab.

[B][FONT="Arial"][SIZE="4"]
Things to know , some minor issues, bugs and workarounds.
[/SIZE][/FONT][/B]
• This is a test a ROM and some bugs will be there as manila 2.5 is not finish yet.
• After flashing Rom please hard reset.
• Enter Sim Pin if you have it enabled, New HTC Setup wizard requires it and if not enter you will have to restart to continue through the setup process, minor bug until fixed in next version from HTC.
• If you use New Contact card and use face book to log in, at first log in, your picture will not show, workaround just click on new contact card and click face book and it will add your picture.
• New manila 2.5 has a minor bug with SMS part in which if you receive a new SMS and click to view it will open in manila , you can view SMS but the menu button doesn't work and if you click it you will have to press the end key to exit.
• New Manila 2.5 uses internet Explorer as Leo Rom doesn't include Opera, so I will make a cab for it, also not sure if Internet Push will work but you can enable it in Manila and test yourself.
• New manila 2.5 supports landscape in ALBUM and Music tabs.
• Been using the Rom for over a week and its stable and can be use daily with the minor bugs mentioned above.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Looking forward to it mate. Best of luck with your venture at HTCPedia. I've already joined like so many others so I can follow your work ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] david beckham:
Leo R1 is out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Not yet, later today ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pandemoniumone:
I know the thread states online but its not quite out yet.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
LOL, it seems like dutty forgot to change the title of the thread to "Coming Soon". I guess that's what happens with 2 sites to keep updated :p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gmdata:
Dutty's HD WM6.5 Leo R1 Test Change log [ Coming Tonight ] [08.08.09]

The Rom will be exclusively reelase @ htcpedia.com

Can't wait till tonight.:) I've already registered on htcpedia.com
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gaiden:
so the footprint tab works? and we can directly reply an sms now??... didnt see it in the changelog.... but guess the answerr will be once it released.....

dutty just to help you on figuring out the sms bug please have alook at miri manila 2.5 rom R6. it able to show the menu without a problem. the only bug with htc message in miri's is replying a message will crash manila.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Welcome to the new club ;)

PS! Can a moderator change the title of the thread to Coming Soon and not Online :rolleyes:. There are going to be hundreds of posts asking where's the link. :eek: (Nevermind got hold of Dutty on the other side and he has changed to [Coming]
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] chinnyman:
How do i do this, i cant seem to figure it out

p.s R9 is really nice and stable, very impressed!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sidsgemini:
No Program Tab in R9 Turbo

Can anyone tel me why is there no Programs tab in R9 Turbo or am I missing something?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MrKaon:
hold the item in start menu and drog it to the place which you want it
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MrKaon:
you can access to all your programs through start menu but if you really missing programs tab then you should install

Tom Extended Menu [Duttys R9].cab
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] chinnyman:
YEah i tried that but you cant drag it to the main start menu?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Yes, you are missing something ;). I know you are new, but please try to read a few of the last pages of the thread and use search. People here are generally more than willing to help, but when the same question gets asked on 2 consecutive pages some can get a little ratty ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
You need to go to \Windows\Start Menu\Programs and use File Explorer or similar to move the links between folders, with \Windows\Start Menu\Programs being the root and then there are the sub-folders below this level.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] adrianmak:
I'm curious about why the new coming WM6.5 Leo rom using a older build 23008 ? Are there some reasons not to use newer build ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
I have not checked in this case, but don't be fooled by the numbers of the WM versions. They do not run sequentially, so 23008 is not necessarily older than say 23017 etc.

It may also have to do with stability. If 23008 is more stable than a newer version it also makes sense to go with that.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MrKaon:
in my case

I use Resco file explorer to make shortcut in start menu and then I drag them to the place which I want it
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] chinnyman:
so where should i move the RSS folder to?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
If you want the folder to appear on the main start menu screen, move it to \Windows\Start Menu\Programs. If you want it in another subfolder such as Connectivity (for example) move it to \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Connectivity etc.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MrHarm:
Not really. If chefs started to actually charge for their ROMs (as opposed to basing themselves on voluntary donations) I think we can safely assume that HTC and Microsoft's policy towards the copyright violations ROM cooking actually entail would change pretty quickly.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
That's kind of in the gray area. Even without charging for them, these ROMs actually do constitute a copyright infringement which is overlooked by both M$ and HTC as they benefit from the solutions as well as extensive high quality beta testing.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MrHarm:
...and I am saying that this attitude could change the moment cooked ROMs actually became a truly commercial venture, as there is a difference (even though it is not relevant under copyright law) between a few nerds (;)) on a forum developing/sharing stuff for free and someone taking your software, infringing your copyright and openly trying to turn it into a commercial venture, especially from a strategic point of view.

But who knows. I hope we won't have to find out :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
You have a valid point. I hope things remain the way they are. I know my HD is much better and superior to the state I bough it in, I'd hate to loose all these improvements.

Though I still believe chefs have the right to distribute their work wherever they want.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hazard.za:
Hi Makbil,

Just want to know where you got that radio, as i can't find it on the wiki...

Thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
It's not an official HD radio. If you want to try it first read here and then here.

You can't install this radio unless you security unlock your HD (this is not the same as SIM unlock)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ultimatepichu:
Leo?

I read through the changelog and read htcpedia.com and I still don't get it:

What's the difference(s) between this release and previous WM6.5 R series, other than this one using Manila 2.5? someone enlighten me?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
A newer version of M2.5 and WM6.5 and updates to other programs.

It's just been announced on HTCPEIA that the release will be tomorrow evening.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pandemoniumone:
That's funny, I thought Tom was saying tomorrow early in the morning :confused:

Edit: You're correct Makbil, I read his post wrong.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Vjenne-ICT:
Looks nice! Thanks Dutty!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ultimatepichu:
thanks makbil!

Anyway, did you write wrongly, or there is "Radio 1.16.25.48"? Couldn't find that in wiki.

EDIT: LoL, now I understand what user hazard.za wrote. =.="

=S
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
I'm going to edit that part :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Glad you decided to use 1.16 radio mate
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] adrianmak:
I think it is properly to keep reporting R9 issue under this thread, right ?

When waiting an app's processing like using pocket mechanic to clean up files. It may required several mins for scanning. I experienced that the autolock will show while in processing then I unlock the screen and I found quick menu icon at the top right hand corner will disappear. I have to turn off the screen and turn on again and unlock screen, then quick menu icon will showup.

It is a bug ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
Yeah, it solved my calls dropping issue. You've got a happy camper here :p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] douginoz:
And these are all additional reasons why splitting off to a commerical, for-profit website to host your roms is bad. Not only does it give the impression that the "underground scene" of cooking is moving into a for-profit space, it fragments the community, makes it harder to find answers to problems and common issues, and encourages other people that normally donate their time and skillz gratis to look for ways to make money at it.

I believe the best approach to combat this is for the community to not encourage people to split off to other sites, and to make sure that most people understand the motives behind such moves.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
I don't use pocket mechanic but I'm guessing what happens is this: autolock changes the screen contents and when you return, the application is not ready to display its screen contents so you have to wait until the screen is refreshed. However, you are saying top right which should be the task manager icon. A quick test could be, wait until the screen refreshes (until the clock advances by a minute), then the task manager icon should appear.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
This is all good but the new ROM is still free for all on the other site. Maybe it's not about financial gain but an opportunity to exchange technical know-how.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] douginoz:
True, but where do we post bugs/problems? Do we now need to read 2 forums to ensure we stay abreast of changes/fixes/solutions? And can up-and-coming cooks-to-be learn as well if the talent has moved away from xda-developers?

I don't see the advantages vis-a-vis exchanging technical know-how if there are now 2 forums we have to stay abreast of.

(Keep in mind I'm not really grumbling much; I'm more playing the devil's advocate to encourage vigorous discussion and debate).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pandemoniumone:
This really isn't that complicated. As Dutty will not be releasing his latest Roms here, you will be posting any bugs/problems at the other site. Not sure why you're predicting confusion regarding this issue since you can only get the Rom from one location.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
douginoz, since we have pretty much concluded this version of the ROM, I guess a little OT wouldn't hurt.

I see your point but I don't really think that is such a big problem. You just need to bookmark one more thread, only this time on a different site.

If you notice, Dutty has changed the name of this thread to his upcoming ROM. So it is safe to assume that ROM discussion will also take place here. We'll just have to use copy/paste a little more - if you know what I mean :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
Actually, if the colors didn't give it away, it is hard to distinguish between the two threads. I'm just hoping I don't respond in the wrong thread by mistake :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pandemoniumone:
Lol! I guess this may be an issue for someone who is able to answer questions such as yourself :) Yes, the threads do have the same layout but as you said, the green color gives it away ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jazzdude555:
Calendar app.

I loaded R9, and I think it ticks all the boxes, fantastic.

On the whole it seems that it really has helped us bu making the whole Windows mobile environment more finger friendly and this is where I think we all want to be.

What I cant understand though is how having set up a great calendar app front page, with a slick graphic interface, that when we want to input a new appointment, that terrible, stylus only standard windows mobile calendar app pops up.

Is there a way to make this more Thumbcal like so you dont have to get the stylus out, and squint at those tiny little boxes in order to get an entry in.

Or at least, where you can set up Thumbcal as your default calendar app, and it pops up when you go to the calendar tab in the standard HTC Rom.

Is there a way we can do this?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cdubalaru:
Dutty, don't you move to Rhodium?:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ricky_619:
Don't tease our man.. :-) Besides Rhodium is not that exciting, rather to wait for Leo
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bikaso:
guys i have amessage on my today screen it's

( use setuo menu and change the setting to match your city)

can anyone know what the meaning of this ??

i think it's becouse of the size of the doday wallpaper:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Oemie:
Manila 2.5 Calender would be nice...maybe someone (Dutty?..:D) can extract it and put it into r10 rom?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dogans:
ROM released at HTCPedia :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lunakirb:
Leo R1 rom is up on htcpedia.com
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] FabianNL:
So can I post the links here? Or do we all need to register on HTCPEDIA? (what I just did...)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Twice:
Download links are in attachment

In post #1 ;)

On HTCPEDIA

Maybe you ask Dutty first ??

Iam not sure .
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] luobu:
could you guys post the download link here pls!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] oaldawe:
thanks for this rom
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] barczar:
"This Rom Exclusive by HTCPedia , Please don't make any mirror of link."
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] duttythroy:
Link to my HD WM6.5 Leo R1 Test

http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=304

I will upload R10 with updated manila 2.1 and such forth SOON ALSO there
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Oemie:
Maybe it is a good idea to close this thread, so all findings, bugs and enthusiasm is in one place http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=304
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] FabianNL:
Can you explain why it is HTCPedia exclussive?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Moony1987:
and why if it is HTCPedia exclusive have a thread here? That's just lame.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] maniatico:
dutty joint a team and they all r doing there releses at HTCPedia
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] starbase64:
Hi,

the Camera performance on this Rom is amazing.

Show this first Test Video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzDgTh0WOgY)

with friendly greet

starbase64
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thesaint88:
hi! i recently installed dutty's wm6.5 r9 turbo, its working very fine but im experiencing some problem with the keyboard when im texting, its a bit laggy. wat would i do to fix this prob? thx!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] alexwai:
hi, can anyone tell me what are the difference between turbo r9 and leo r1 ROM?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mglancy23:
leo is based on the new manila 2.5 build

r9 is based on 2.1
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] alexwai:
oic... thank you for your replied. :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ozmoran:
Did you hard reset after flash?

if so try doing soft reset see if that improves performance
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thesaint88:
yup. i did a hard reset after flashing and i already did a soft reset its still lagging. and btw, is there a way to change the keyboard back to its original htc keyboard?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] abdullah1982:
hi

just flashed r9 on my hd and am pretty happy with the performance. One thing I really like that earlier cooked rom's had one prob. Whenever u go in settigns and do some changes, it comes back to main tf3d screen which was really irritating but now its gr8 that the prob is gone
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] El Massman:
this is freakin' sweet. the new music player is awesome. very iphone-like. i'd say it's worth updating for that alone. there's been a few times when various textures haven't loaded but i believe that's known about already. all in all though, very smooth. i can see myself using this for a while to come. nice work dutty.

regards,

mass
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] piflechien:
I agree the music player is really nice, but is awfully slow !
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
I had HD freeze once while browsing some pictures.

I have the same problem with this ROM as I had with previous M2.5 ROMs, a crucial application I need to use will not run and exits with some errors. Now eagerly waiting for R10.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] abdullah1982:
i was trying to run weather database editor on my hd after installing r9 but it gave me an error "File write protection of database couldnt removed". Please help how to use this software
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pandemoniumone:
So far so good Dutty, haven't any problems as of yet! :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mkid:
HTCpedia is "extremely" slow, can't even goto the registration screen...

can the rom be put to rapidshare or Dutty's site ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Nahkatukka:
You'll just have to register to HTCpedia if you want that rom because it's made exclusively for HTCpedia
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] pLUSpISTOL:
No chance I'm signing up to that site.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] pzucchel:
just for my curiosty: why? what's the difference with XDA? I noticed they put some faces behind the website - not many sites do this!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] pzucchel:
I agree. However, after I replayed the video my system froze (black screen, no activity). The red button recovered the system. Anybody else reproducing the same issue? Apart from this, I have to admit this ROM is great indeed - I don't know if it's Dutty's magic (probable since also 6.1 R9 was excellent) or progress from HTC.

DId you notice the link http://www.htc.com/leo inside the ROM? apparently, it is broken...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] geistteufel:
WoW. That is a big ads for another Forum ! Force to subscribe to get last rom from you dutty.

Expected a big migration ? Have a problem with that forum ? Or just make a deal because you manage the site too ?

I will not mirror this link because is an exclusivity. I hope speed of site is as good as all download people will do there.

So about Leo rom ? is they boring bug in it or we can try it and use it everyday without any misadventure ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mkid:
alright ........ thx