yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] muttim86:
yozgatg thanks,

both for the good wishes, and for the intervention are very busy and as you said you, the VGA port in is not easy ... thanks again
[Windows Mobile Software Development] supersobbie:
you are not alone... I like the option of having one click to any number or email. In the 2.5/6 manila you only have speed dial for 1 number... other then that you have ot open the contact then click the number... 2 clicks... are you kidding me... 2 a whole 2 clicks... man it takes forever to get to speed dial LOL ;)

anyway you are not alone.

SoBBie

Sorry... ok back to topic!! :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] joshkoss:
arrived? were :confused::confused:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] muttim86:
OEM arrived!! ;)

Manila 2.5.1917
[Windows Mobile Software Development] twopumpchump:
i still cant find it lol
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vader165:
muttim, any word on a willing 6.5 oem donor? hopefully some leads can appear...:D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] GahhTheBig:
I Still can´t Find too !!

Where are ?

Good Luck to u to porting de manila ,

Really thanks.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] GahhTheBig:
I don´t know how is to port a Manila ,but i think it´s veery hard job.

Now i think , we can´t to lose time with discussion .

Good luck muttim .

All the best to you.

Thanks to port this to us.

Bye!

Sorry by my bad English :cool:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Nagrom Nniuq:
Where is this supposed OEM? It's funny because 2.6 is out already, so I don't think it really matters anymore.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] kecinzer:
Do you planing port version 2.6 too?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vader165:
no one has yet given us the wvga 2.6 oem dump, so it's currently impossible.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] kecinzer:
OK, thanks for reply :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] MOBGangsta184:
Knowing HTC as soon as we get a 2.6 OEM dump there will be a video on Pocketnow.com regarding the new and improved Manilla 2.7 now with more color!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Asphyx:
So true! LOL

I predict that Manila will continue to be a WIP until WM7 comes out and they have to start all over again! LOL
[Windows Mobile Software Development] supersobbie:
Can someone here tell me what the Manila 2.5 files are that have VGA on them already. From this link:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=4367691#post4367691

I got a list of file names for manila and I see many named nameOfFile_VGA.lua does that mean that HTC has already started converting there own work to VGA? will those help use port this quicker? does the 2.6 version have these files?

Thanks in advance.

SoBBie
[Windows Mobile Software Development] joshkoss:
I'm sorry Muttim86, we all appreciate you porting this and i know you have done a great job but were is the link for oem? as we're all missing it.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] JZ SmartMort:
Internet Tab

I was wondering if adding this line:

<BrowserExe>\Windows\Opera9.exe</BrowserExe>

to \Windows\27c65cbd_manila is working for people???

This is the standard way of messing with TF3D Internet Tab but it's not working with this version of Manila.

Thanks!

JZ
[Windows Mobile Software Development] EvgeniX:
Does any one made Menu_Enhancement v1.1 or this LEO Menu_Enhancement WWE work on Touch Pro??

What does it require??

How to make it work!!??
[Windows Mobile Software Development] sepehr_sar2000:
Not for Diamond GSM ? ? ?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vader165:
it's not out yet. the manila, that is.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] raversburger:
Sorry wrong Rom i had installed
[Windows Mobile Software Development] muttim86:
by force, the things you have to install manila 2.1, which is in the video is manila 2.5!

do not go well for manila 2.5, for other things in the video, you've installed the beta 0.2, tesr the beta 0.3, is much better than 0.2!

WHY DOUBLE POST? here and in XOR MM ROM??
[Windows Mobile Software Development] BarateaU:
Nice work, but isnt it possible to like make the clock smaller. It takes to much space of the screeen.... Great work guys if you come to Stockholm ill buy you a beer!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] sepehr_sar2000:
where can i Download Manila 2.5 for Diamond ? ? :confused:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] GahhTheBig:
Me too :confused:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] GahhTheBig:
Hey Guy , HTC is preparing the HTC TACHI for CDMA .

IT WILL HAVE A VGA SCREEN.

And manila 2.6 i think , soo the port is going to be more easy!

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vader165:
NOT YET. ;) This is hard work. And if all else fails, i think that Tachi might be the best shot.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] zoolake:
keep up the good work guys, we are all counting on you! :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] :
the only thing different in 2.6 is the home tab, now has weather right there, aside from that it is all the same has 2.5, i know this from looking at the files, the core is actually 2.5 for 2.6, version is different and gfx are different, 2.6 has been around for a while, just not for Qualcom Chipset, if someone makes a PVR to QTC GFX converter, then i can give you all the 2.6 that you want, but until one is made it wont do a lot of good.

the 1ghz will not matter on the speed for manila, it runs just has fast on leo has it does on older devices. and it is always going to be a never ending process.

HTC is also porting it to VGA, its the same they do with all of there stuff, they test it on one first, and make small changes along the way to make it work on another.

same thing with all of there oems has well. they are using XML to control everything and that means that a VGA version will be the same program ahhas WVGA, just different XML in the OEM.

Footprints tab, i will really be suprised if you get this working, the drivers are going to be dependent on the Camera, and Camera will be dependint on the Hardware, (Chipset) so without those, I would be suprised to see this working.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] kecinzer:
Weahter at home tab is very good feature. In older versions is weather useless for me. Because I have to scroll to another tab, and its not comfortable asi on HS.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] daeshawn:
OK so do y'all have a diamond version yet or is it something that we still have to wait for?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] _-1g1-_:
Another Change in 2.6 is the Music- (real Coverflow like Iphone :D) and Phototab in Landscape. That is a real nice Eyecandy.

Greet
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vader165:
there is a buggy rom, but no cab or install yet.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] daeshawn:
ok np..just asking cause i'm really not seeing any posts stating its avail since its avail for all the other versions...thought we were being left in the cold lol
[Windows Mobile Software Development] intx:
Yes, that looks quite amazing.

For anyone who hasn't seen it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZhI9myqjdo
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vader165:
muttim just wrapped up his rom w. manila 2.1, now he is returning to work on 2.5, it says so on his rom thread.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] :
i have seen these same features in 2.5 has well, i guess i just am not looking at same files you guys are, i have that unique advantage
[Windows Mobile Software Development] _-1g1-_:
Sure that 2.5 have the same features!? :eek::eek:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] twopumpchump:
im pretty sure he knows what hes talking about lol
[Windows Mobile Software Development] MordyT:
this is conflipper....

he knows...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] daeshawn:
cool...thats sounds like good news
[Windows Mobile Software Development] btxakita:
How about this one...:D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] MRFERRARI23:
id have to say that looks hella nice!!!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] intx:
That's the tachi dump, right?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vader165:
is it from the qilin? also, the call start and end buttons flank soft keys, most vga devices SHOULD have that as hardware... but yes looks great, if we could translate and vga it (unless already so) we are golden.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] btxakita:
Sorry,,,

Manila is not from Qilin,is from Leo and also WVGA

Softkey button from TG01

and it is easy to show these buttons:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\SendEnd]

"SoftkeyEnabled"=dword:00000001

"KeyBitmap"="\\Windows\\SendEndKey.bmp"

then copy the file SendEndKey.bmp to Windows folder
[Windows Mobile Software Development] nikoan89:
this work for me:

here is a cab for this mod just install it, do a soft reset and enjoy!

Bye, Niko ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vinovixen:
Change S2U2 Ignore Call SMS Message

Hi-

First; Thanks for the great tips and advice on this forum.

Second; I am a complete techno idiot - so, forgive any stupidity contained herein! :confused:

I just installed S2U2 on my Touch Pro. Prior to the install, when I rejected a call, I had a custom sms message sent that requested the caller to text me or call later. I want to change the default S2U2 busy sms to my custom message.

I did see a registry edit about this - but, I am not nearly savvy or confident enough to mess with my registry.

Can anyone provide me a quick fix or solution to this problem?

Thank you!

PS- under wm6.1 settings, the sms message on ignore is still set to my custom message.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] wwl2008:
What's time for oem?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] nikoan89:
You are completely off topic, here we talk about the Manila 2.5 VGA porting and not about s2u2 ... there is a thread by A_C, please ask your question there.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] qmt49:
I know it might be a bit early to tell this but... do any of the devs on this project know what the RAM usage will be like on the GSM Diamond? The chefs here at XDA have done a lot of work and a really great job to optimise the RAM usage of the current TF3D 2.1, but it still seems to be a little too high for the Diamond to really work properly. While 2.5 looks amazing and I'm really glad you guys are working to port it, I'm guessing that, since 2.5 is even more extensive than 2.1, RAM usage is going to be even higher. Any thoughts?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vader165:
that's the premise, given the specs of the leo are 1ghz processor, more ram,rom, etc. with that being said, i think it will be fine because tf3d alone will replace many of the little winmo things like calendar, date set, settings, programs, photo and video, windows media, stock and weather widgets, etc.

all encompassing, cutting down the need for many apps. a good trade off.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] :
Where is this manila 2.6 vga port?, its clearly a vga port look at the "add widget" squares there hidding at the bottom of the screen, just like in the muttim 2.5 port, if it were WVGA they would be in the right place, please share this port with us mate.

ps: The rom is probably from bss.rombeta.com but i cant say, since its all in chinese ><
[Windows Mobile Software Development] krakout:
<wrong thread, sorry?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] benko286:
yeah i deffinitly like these weather on home page

btw in this youtube video manila is slow like hell!!!!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vader165:
yeah, is this vga? looks like it, cause if it was wvga, would be much more rectangular, have to pm him...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] nikoan89:
that is not manila 2.6 but manila 2.5!

the 2.6 doesn't work on MSM720xx ie doesn't work on every device between Diamond and Rhodium and obviously older devices ...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mei_tatsujin:
gr8 works, I'm gonna love my device longer... :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] :
Your very wrong friend, manila is in no way CPU dependent, idk were you got that idea from but its wrong.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] NRGZ28:
Actually YOU're wrong. 2.6 will not run on our devices...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] GahhTheBig:
NRGZ28

Hi , what about Diamond ?

A new rom today ? maybe ? :D:D

bye!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] daeshawn:
was thinking the exact same thing
[Windows Mobile Software Development] nikoan89:
as NRGZ said it doesn't work on our devices ... it might depends from a different graphic acceleration :(
[Windows Mobile Software Development] :
You sure about that?, i know something....that a little bird told me :P, but im not telling. :cool:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] NRGZ28:
You're not telling because you don't know... Stop trying to act smart :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] nikoan89:
I'm totally agree with NRGZ ...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] kecinzer:
I start to hate HTC.

They think, that one device has life-cyckle 1/2 year? WTF!

I don't have that much money for buing new HTC device twice a year.

I don't understeand, why Manila 2.6 don't run on Raphael :(
[Windows Mobile Software Development] omnicronx:
Are you seriously going to complain that your device does not support the new frontend that is meant for phones two generations newer (i.e year+) Than your phone? It seems to me that they are building two versions for a reason in parallel, one for older chips, one for newer chips, most likely with some kind of GPU acceleration that our current phones do not support.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] :
Believe whatever you want mate, as they say time will tell.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] :
2.6 does not work on Qualcom Chipsets.

2.6 was first developed on the HTC Qilin, this device is OMAP3, This was back in june, so 2.6 is nothing new. and the device is using Power Vector Textiles(PVR) for the GFX, and since qualcomm chipsets do not recgonize PVR GFX, 2.6 manila will not work. Qulacomm chipsets use QTC GFX, and not PVR.

but recently 2.6 manila has been getting back ported to 2.5 manila, and that is where you saw that at. if you look at UDK ROM, and in the registry, you will see that Manila_Core version is 2.5.1918, but the version in manila reports 2.6, but its actually 2.5.

2.5 is actually now more powerful the 2.6, and the only reason it is 2.6 is becuase it is developed for a different chipset, and so it has different GFX.

and so a real 2.6 manila will not work in any way on Qualcomm Devices.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] twopumpchump:
i think it just did lmao....thanks for clearing that up conflipper :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Asphyx:
The life cycle on ANY phone is about a year...Even the iPhone was upgraded after 6 months and that was only because they rushed out the earlier version to capture market share...Then had to fix all the issues that caused. like HEY we got cut and paste! WOW! (LOL)

Not certain but I expect the design leadtime on each model is about 2 years from paper to product. It's unreasonable to expect technology to be cutting edge for more than a year...

A computer (even the fancy gaming rigs) are almost obsolete by the time you open the box...

Moore's Law at work!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] nikoan89:
thanks for the explanation Conflipper :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vader165:
ahhh. a good clean explanation. this should set things down around here.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] drvon:
The new HTC Touch2 will be out Oct 6, and by the pics it's sporting Touch Flo 2d or 3d 2.5, but the screen size is qvga. Can this manilla be ported directly over to vga devices? I don't know how the screen sizings work.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] butterdori:
The HTC Touch2 is the HTC Mega as far as I know

And there already is a thread on that
[Windows Mobile Software Development] drvon:
My question is regarding this port. If the touch2 manilla can

be ported over with no resizing or limited resizing it

might help this devoloper and this project.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vader165:
I don't think this is possible, if you increase size, it will be pixellated not crisp, only wvga down, also m2d doesn't have the visual effects our 1st gen touch diamonds and pros are capable of.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] supersobbie:
Back on Topic

OK I think we are getting WAY OFF TOPIC.... This is the 2.5 Beta Dev thread and I have not read anything on this page that discusses that. Only debates on what version and other devices... I think we should try to get back on point.

So MuttiM, where do we stand? is there any update? is there anything I can help with (I have limited time but would love to offer any help I can)? I know that at one point you were looking for a actual 2.5 release not just a beta, have you found one yet?

Thanks for all the hard work you have been putting in on this. :)

SoBBie
[Windows Mobile Software Development] teixeirabmb:
Discuss MuttiM Manila 2.5 VGA Port? But there is any real news?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] muttim86:
soon there will be news, there is still much work to do though...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] msl7052:
has there ever been a mention when this might be a public beta? Ive seen a few people with 2.5 in their ROMs but never any mention of a public release. Im patiently waiting though, Thanks to all the Developers on this site for the hard work on projects like this.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] sprinttouch666:
Please inform me if i am the only one that thinks this isn't a stupid idea, but here it goes. Has any one suggested minimizing the slider (how it is in landscape) for portrait as well and/or possibly hiding the soft keys temperately the same way.. i was playing around w/ the beta yesterday (excellent job so far btw!!!!) and i just seemed like even resizing items wouldn't be enough to make everything fit properly.

p.s. - yes i am aware that manila 1.3, 2.0 and 2.1 all came from wvga and are resized very well. just seems like the 2.5 homescreen will never fit on a vga screen properly
[Windows Mobile Software Development] l3v5y:
I believe there are some mods to do the former of those, though the latter may well not be possible...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] jncokilla:
'm currently using Manila 2.5 and I noticed there's a annoying bug that would freeze my phone after sliding out the keyboard in the sms tab. Is it possible to use WM sms instead of manila's sms? The 2.1 hack don't work
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vader165:
yeah, just like 2.0 hacks don't work for 2.1, you know. we have to wait.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] belsj:
Try this one. it just minimized the slider bar, but the softkeys stays in the screen.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] apocalypse333:
looks great, I really like the color tabs over the original black/white htc look. why haven't you made one for the diamond gsm?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mbarvian:
not to rain on anybody's parade here, but porting this thing to

QVGA would take a LOT of work. and, the drivers for QVGA still

have many bugs, so even if it was ported, it'd be useless imo,

and it'd probably be unusably slow.

just my $.02
[Windows Mobile Software Development] jrodizzkool01:
Im am using a rom with 2.5 on it for my touch pro and great job with the porting so far. Hopefully there will be a way to get the multimedia features from 2.6 on the 2.5 port. I like the new music player and photo viewers
[Windows Mobile Software Development] MordyT:
The "2.6" you speak of IS 2.5 - just renamed. Think i'm wrong? Look at the qoute from just 2 pages back from conflipper....

need more proof?

check out his post from ppcgeeks...

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1136355&postcount=28
[Windows Mobile Software Development] sprinttouch666:
i'm not sure that they are 100% the same. they may be very similar but there are some differences when in landscape of the photos & videos and music tabs as seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZhI9myqjdo
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dobb:
Hello there,

i have one question

there is rom's with this manila for diamond cdma and touch pro, and not for diamond gsm?

when we will get beta for out diamonds?

thanks
[Windows Mobile Software Development] TMartin:
I believe the main difference is the home page. 2.6 has the little black background and weather and 2.5 doesn't have either. It looks like Miri and UDK both integrated the 2.6 home page into 2.5. The only other thing I could think of is if they leaked another version on 2.5 with the little black background and weather just like 2.6 but I haven't heard anything.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] TMartin:
Yep click the link in my signature. There is one for both CDMA devices.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] MordyT:
These are both valid points...

i'm just going on what conflipper said - he tends to know what he is talking about.

i see your points. anyone want to ask him?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mbarvian:
just spitballing here,

what if "2.6" (the one with the weather under the clock and stuff) is actually just a newer build of 2.5?

similar to Manila 2D. The build without the flippy clock and weather is 2.0.1917, but the one WITH the flippy clock and weather is 2.0.1918 (the one from the new HTC Touch2)

just a thought
[Windows Mobile Software Development] nikoan89:
hey guys look at the first post there are some news :rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] TMartin:
If what I heard is true....2.5 is newer than 2.6. Apparently its just like WM6.5 where just because a build # is higher doesn't make it newer.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dobb:
Manila

Hi, I didn't found a rom with new manila for diamond gsm, it is only for cdma.

Can you send me link or something.

10x
[Windows Mobile Software Development] TMartin:
Ohh sorry I didn't read it clearly. I thought you were asking for a CDMA link.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] emd2009:
When can we see a release of this new version?!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] msl7052:
looks great, any release date ?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vader165:
lookin' great, keep at it, hope for much more news soon!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] :
Finally I think someone understands it. different versions, different chipsets. but features..... they are all the same....... and for anyone trying to claim that the files are not stable, then you need to get an updated version. latest version I have seen floating around is 2.5.1919.1112

I dont have files, but a frined has informed me about this build number.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] TMartin:
Do you happen to have the latest version to share?? I've only got 2.5.1916.2226.1
[Windows Mobile Software Development] unforseenenemy:
WOOHOO

Just a heads-up, the new GSM Raphael ROM is now available! the link is on the first page of this thread!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] GXFX:
Muttim , we are waiting a rom for Diamond GSM .

I think the Project is going okay , but a Diamond GSM ROM is needed.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] _-1g1-_:
GSM Diamond would be sooo great :)

Thanks for your awesome Work :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] basthet:
Folks - stay calm. It is a tough job to port and resize such a rom.

If you cannot wait but read German: there is a GSM Rom out with a VGA port made by others.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dotcompt:
And where can we find that?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] basthet:
But be warned - it is still early beta, almost every other days there is an update, and it is still buggy.

http://htc-developers.de/viewtopic.php?f=85&t=2383
[Windows Mobile Software Development] allthatinny:
my problem with this rom is i cant get it to work on my fuze keyboard properly, its a major problem for me and anyone since it defeats the purpose of having a HW Keyboard
[Windows Mobile Software Development] moory3003:
heads up people, i've just taken Rotastrain blackstone tweak for manila 2.5 from here and it works a treat for those of us with a touch pro :)

Rotastrains Horizon

(MANILA 2.5 ONLY)

St Galeen Release

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=556485&highlight=Rotastrain