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[Touch HD General] Alkali:
Hi!

A rather stupid question. please which are the best cases for Htc Touch Hd? I have seen NOREVE but they do not ship to my Country. I would prefer something along the line of MOSHI and SEIDIO but unfortunatrely they do not make for touch HD.I doubt the quality of PdAir .please help.
[Touch HD General] xX SPION KOP Xx:
Anything worth knowing about will be here: http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=454

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[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nismo300zx:
i get this error whenever i try to run DDMS from terminal im on ubuntu 9.04 and i have eclipse installed as well as the java jdk..and everything is up to date..any ideas?

30:06 E/ddms: shutting down due to uncaught exception

30:06 E/ddms: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: /home/nismo/Desktop/sdk/tools/lib/libswt-pi-gtk-3236.so: /home/nismo/Desktop/sdk/tools/lib/libswt-pi-gtk-3236.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 (Possible cause: architecture word width mismatch)

at java.lang.ClassLoader$NativeLibrary.load(Native Method)

at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary0(ClassLoader.java:1778)

at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary(ClassLoader.java:1687)

at java.lang.Runtime.loadLibrary0(Runtime.java:823)

at java.lang.System.loadLibrary(System.java:1028)

at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Library.loadLibrary(Library.java:123)

at org.eclipse.swt.internal.gtk.OS.<clinit>(OS.java:22)

at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Converter.wcsToMbcs(Converter.java:63)

at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Converter.wcsToMbcs(Converter.java:54)

at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.<clinit>(Display.java:126)

at com.android.ddms.UIThread.runUI(UIThread.java:329)

at com.android.ddms.Main.main(Main.java:97)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MrFire:
From a very reliable source it seems we can expect the Touch Pro 2 to release with ATT in October 2009.

So save up your cash!

I'm very confident that my intel is solid. I'll see if I can get a pricing quote and exact date soon and post.

Been waiting for the chance to contribute to XDA. Hopefully this tibdit will be a good start, until I learn to cook!!

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Just saw some of the posts regarding the keyboard and button layout and such.

I primarily checked out the new icon based HTC theme, the keyboard was large standard querty and very similar to the LG Xenon's at ATT if you want a good comparison (but bigger of course).

I'll inquire about the PTT button/functionality and other questions and post.

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9/3/09 update

1 - 3.5 Audio Jack - confirmed?? -> probably not, as per manual, box comes with 3.5mm adapter!!

2 - HTC TF 3D fully integrated icon based interface

Also late september may be the time...we shall see

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10/5/2009

It seems my call on this was on point!

At this point the official release date seems to be 10/8/09. This is the target for the phones to hit distribution. Hopefully this means it will hit stores on this date as well

Here is some more information I was able to dig up:

1—PTT is available on the Tilt 2, not the Pure. It is a standard button on the side below the volume keys and can be reprogrammed if the customer didn’t want to use the PTT feature.

2—The Tilt 2 has a full sliding 5-row qwerty keyboard customized by ATT.

3—Opera browser offering Push Internet capability (no waiting for the page to load) and also the latest Internet Explorer Mobile w/Flash support. Opera is the default browser, IE still in OS as alternate browser.

4—Integrated Facebook and Flickr. If your contacts update either of those sites, it’s automatically updated for you on their contact card.

"Tilt 2 Manual"......... ENJOY!!! ;)

4shared link for manual:

http://www.4shared.com/file/137920703/493fc8a9/HTC_Tilt_2_User_Guide.html

Rapidshare link for the manual (thanks for the hosting SaltyDawg, good for 10 dls).

http://rapidshare.com/files/28923844...Guide.pdf.html
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poppinpengawen:
seriously?? OCTOBER?? I was hoping it wouldn't be that late. after it went from supposedly being released in october to august, I was hoping it just stay at august. man AT&T does NOT know how to satisfy their customers. :mad:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MrFire:
yea, I agree the wait sucks. Makes sense though since ATT has usually releases new HTC stuff in the mid to late 4th quarter, despite all the online rumors that claim late summer releases. But I saw the Touch Pro 2 live and in action, and the new interface and larger screen are definitely worth it.

Besides, The tiny screen on my Fuze is killing me!

My kingdom for more screen real estate...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poppinpengawen:
lol at least you have a relatively new phone! my tilt is frustrating me to no end! I can't even use n onscreen keyboard like fingertouch pro cos the phone won't recognize certain presses. so instead of typing 'phone' i'll get 'pjine'. it doesn't even have a g sensor! so when im bored I can't even play teeter or any of those boredeom-fighting games that utilize a g sensor.

but I agree, the TP2 will be worth it. completely.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bersca:
I doubt we will have to wait until October. Historically, AT&T has released HTC phones 4-6 weeks after they were released to our friends across the pond. This is one of the most highly anticipated phones of the year, do you think AT&T would want to risk losing potential customers to Verizon or T-Mobile who are likely to release it in August? Also, if that spec sheet we saw on the Fortress a while back was real, then AT&T initially had plans to release this device almost two months ago.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MrFire:
I hope what you say comes true. shorter wait would be nice.

Keep in mind the Diamond 2 is releasing with ATT as well. Would make sense financially for them not to release 2 HTC phones simultaneously and have the sales bump heads. Look at the Windows Mobile lineup going back, they don't normally have 2 HTC pocket PC's on the the roster at once.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MrFire:
Ahh I had the tilt and loved it. Still have but mic went out :/

now going to use it to play with rom cooking and apps etc. Downloading the new Developer kits from MS as we speak.

Dont the xda chefs have win 6.5 and tf3d and all running on the tilt by now? that wouldn't help with that touch issue?

Can't wait till more games and apps come out for winmo utilizing the g-sensor will def need that for these upcoming devices.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poppinpengawen:
yea there are WM 6.5 roms and TF3D (more like TF2D) roms out there. I've used a big handful of them. I steered away from 6.5 due to the fact that it doesn't run quite as well as I'd like it to on my tilt. I like the simple look of it, but I just don't like how I have to install different .cab files in order to add a program launcher and people tab and other tabs are readily available with every ROM that runs 6.1.

but yes, an earlier release date would be great! I'm getting tired of waiting...I've been waiting since january/february and it's getting harder lol
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] omaralt:
Can u ask ur source if the at&t version will have the 3.5mm jack? That would make it worth the wait
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] g2tl:
Did it have a ptt button? Also, how's the keyboard? any weird/swapped key layouts? Is the number row intact?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] kk0813:
After seeing this thread, this was the same question I wanted to ask. It would be real nice and worth the wait if 3.5 mm jack is included.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] t-readyroc:
Cripes, 2 extra months for that, though.... Ugh.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poppinpengawen:
since WM6.5 is getting closer to an official release, do you guys think that ATT's TP2 will be released with WM6.5 out of box?

as far as I know, the 3.5 mm headphone jack is only going to be included on CDMA variants.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] t-readyroc:
If they do indeed hold off until an October release (ugh), that could very well be. WMPU says as much.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jtoyz2:
my friend at ATT hes district manager said august 17th-august 24th...i hope hes right...he was right bout the Fuze...i really want to start playing with a new device...but Touch Pro 2 HardSPL has not release so i dont mind the wait too much
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] alwayslearning:
I also talked to a friend of mine in ATT management, he went up the the chain of command for me and came back to tell me that no one is talking about the TP2, or should I say they are not letting the info come down the chain. The reason is the iPhone, it's sales are so strong they do not want another device taking away from it. They are also wanting all their sales people to focus on that phone. So Oct sounds right, maybe even Nov to help their end of year sales and Christmas sales. :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] |Jason8|:
I talked to a friend of mine in ATT management. He talked his supervisor into going up the management chain. He said that his supervisor said that the regional manager said that they were due in November 2011.

Hey, I can totally do that, too!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poppinpengawen:
2011?!?! screw that, if that's the case then I'm just gonna save a couple hundred more and buy and unlocked model. let's hope it'll get released when it's still 2009 :mad:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bassil2022:
you know what guys. I am going to apply on a job with AT&T, and I'm going to find when is the release date by my self. How is that sound?!!:cool:

its better than reading "I have a friend at ATT that said....."
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bassil2022:
I think this is what I am going to do next month because this month I'm totally broke from buying a car. Beside I don't think that the AT&t version is going to look as nice as the unlock one. Did you see how ugly is the T-mobile version? It doesn't look business at all. I prefer paying more money to get the good original nice looking. Also, I don't know why I have this feeling that ATT will mess with keyboard. This feeling is like %93. have a look at the all ATT's phone, they have the same numeric layout. They feel like this is "our look"
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] radio_flyer:
I really hope that this October release date is just some bad information. But if it happens to be true, then I hope that by Aug. some concrete images of the actual Att version will surface so that I can decide whether or not to wait.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poppinpengawen:
an october release date does sound possible tho, as much as I'd hate to admit it. like others have pointed out before me, AT&T released its previous HTC phones (the tilt and fuze) right around october or november. it's just a fact we'll have to face.

but I do agree with you, if the october release date really is true, then I'm hoping to see some good concrete evidence and a LOT of pictures in august/september
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] conceptcar3:
ahhh, hurry it up ATT! I love my tilt, the cooks here have truly made it a joy to use, but im dying for the tp2. October is too long, lets get this show on the road in august! Sadly, I fear the Iphone GS is my undo-ing :( curse u apple
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gramsey1911:
Well here is my 2 cents...

Last year the Fuze passed FCC in September then released in November...with that logic the Fortress passed FCC in late June so a mid to late August release is likely the deal unless they have problems with their usual crappy ROMs but hey that is my 2 cents.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Toleraen:
Wishful thinking, but I'd have a hard time believing AT&T would base their release date on a third party approval process that could take anywhere from a week to several months. Usually you're going to want to take the longest time for approval and schedule off that.

My 8525 is hoping August though, this thing is on it's last leg!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Hamburg:
I hope its not that late!! Hell, I'm hoping to get my hands on an HTC Leo by Christmas!!! lol
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Hamburg:
Unfortunately, there are so many other factors involved that could cause a longer delay...

Recent release of iPhone 3GS

Addition of 3.5mm jack (hopefully)

Release of WiMo 6.5 (hopefully)

Staggering of TP2 and TD2

(to name a few...) :(

AT&T's concern is their sales stradegy, not pleasing their customers, so #1 and #4 are the most likely to cause delays... Ughh... I'm going to T-mobile....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] drpal181:
Was the diamond 2 rumored for an october release?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DLTempler:
well, I was planning on upgrading upon availability....

but my Tilt screen cracked yesterday for no apparent reason. I have dropped the phone without a scratch at least 20 times. Yesterday it comes out of my pocket with a totalled screen.

I don't want to take it in for an "upgrade" and blow my upgrade credit. My luck the Fortress will release on day 31 so that I can not return the phone.

So I am just frustrated and blowing smoke 'cause I can't get a straight answer on a release date.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fortunz:
Man I hope not. I'd actually prefer the devil I know with an option to upgrade if 6.5 is actually worth it and the option to not upgrade until my beta testers have ironed out the wrinkles on my behalf.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DarkDvr:
....

And you think T-Mobile's strategy is "pleasing their customers"?

Riiight. :D:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Hamburg:
Hah. Well, I wouldnt say its their business model or anything but at least they're putting out a lot of the highly coveted devices.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dannyedilber:
Hey guys... the true is the today I start to think that we won't see it this month.. not even a pic release... I guest no even the ATT TP2 is built already.

Whats happening???

Sorry my english guys:(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jtoyz2:
when did T-Mobile put out good devices? They ruin their touch pro 2 exterior design looks like a cheap LG phone or something...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ktdan1:
The way this looking now, VZ, Sprint and TMO will be getting the TP2 before ATT. Almost makes me want to jump back to VZ. Come on ATT get it together, release it already.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] tduck:
Well, unfortunately, it kind of makes sense - ATT did get through FCC approval the last of the 4. However, it was close on their heels...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gramsey1911:
If I am not mistaken the ATT Touch Diamond 2 just passed FCC so I would imagine they would not release the Touch Diamond 2 and the Touch Pro 2 at the same time meaning We will hopefully see the Touch Pro 2 in August then the Touch Diamond 2 in October.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poppinpengawen:
as much as I'd like to agree with you on the TP2's release date, I doubt that it'll be coming out in August. maybe September or October, like the other rumors have stated. but, we can always hope :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sakshaug007:
Has anyone else noticed that according to pdadb.net the fortress will have an LED flash (mobile light) for the camera?

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1913&c=htc_t7377___t7378__htc_fortress

Granted these are preliminary specs. I would still like to know where they got that information. It would be awesome if its true.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] solsearch:
They said the same thing about the normal Rhodium in the pdadb preliminary specs. They do make mistakes so don't count on it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DLTempler:
cracked my Tilt screen while patiently awaiting arrival of TP2. Now trying to hold out and hoping for the 8-24 that some folks are mentioning
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ktdan1:
I think the 28th is wishful thinking but I guess we all can wish.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MrFire:
updated main post
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] YodaJM:
Nice 3.5mm audio confirmed!?

Bets seem to be Oct 6th for launch date to coincide with WinMo 6.5 launch.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Toleraen:
3.5mm audio would definitely make the wait worth it!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Twenty4:
Any links to this confirmation?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] YodaJM:
Well there is no confirmation, its just speculation.

But Microsoft had this press release stating Windows Mobile 6.5 phones launching Oct 6th. http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/09/01/windows-mobile-6-5-cellphones-coming-october-6th/

And combine that with this "rumor" http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/...r-dead-warhawk-and-fortress-coming-in-octobe/

Of course it could be later in October or even another month :(

But I'm hoping Oct 6th which would be in time for my birthday :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Twenty4:
I was referring to the 3.5mm jack.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] YodaJM:
The OP's ninja friend confirmed it, so believe that as you wish.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Twenty4:
Ninja's never lie!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] YodaJM:
I hope his Ninja is spot on about the audio jack :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Toleraen:
His Ninja called an October release date back in July, so he's one for one on his info so far!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] YodaJM:
Well the October release still isn't confirmed, but I really hope he is right about the 3.5mm audio jack :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MrFire:
aha!

My prediction came true sweet...

check main page for some updates on this
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MrFire:
aha!

My prediction came true, sweet...

check main page for some updates on this
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] iceman4357:
Might wanna update that the tilt 2 does NOT have a 3.5mm headphone jack.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MrFire:
I think you are referring to the TMobile version. I've explicitly confirmed the ATT version has it.

but we shall see soon ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] drpal181:
I second iceman, the new released picture shows a solo usb.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] iceman4357:
*Update* My friend said October 8th for sure, and even sent the ATT email to me.

@ Mrfire: you have your info backwards my friend on the 3.5mm jack.

http://www.fuzemobility.com/att-tilt-2-will-not-have-a-3-5mm-jack/

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...t&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=4998

-its listed on their site.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ0kIxJZvas&feature=player_embedded# AT&T dude talking about it. Put it in HQ and go to 3:59 and freeze it. You get a clear shot of the bottom, its just USB like the Fuze.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] radio_flyer:
I know this has nothing to do with the topic at hand, but it's just funny that the two people involved in this mini-debate are named "MrFire" and "iceman." Back on topic, did I read correctly, "Oct, 8th......."?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dannyedilber:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/10/05/att-to-start-selling-htc-tilt-2-starting-october-8th/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MrFire:
Ahh some back up by boygenius, nice. But I never put much faith in their constantly changing predictions...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MrFire:
Wow u really did ur homework on this one. Well I guess we will see when it releases
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] WatermelonSlim:
First off, Mr Fire is legit. He sent me the manual and I have been going through it.

Second, Mr Fire is misinterpreting the specs. After reading the manual, I can confirm that the Tilt 2 does NOT have a 3.5mm audio jack. The manual clearly states that an adapter is included in the box. I think he was seeing that and interpreted it as the device having a 3.5mm jack.

Unfortunately, it is the same old HTC audio adapter dongle that we all know from previous devices.

Here is a link for you to download the Tilt 2 manual if you want it. It's a rapid share, so if you download it, please upload it and post a link to your mirror (so everyone else can get it without hitting the rapid share limit of 10 downloads).

http://rapidshare.com/files/289238446/HTC_Tilt_2_User_Guide.pdf.html
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MrFire:
thanks for the upload link Salty, will post it in the main post..

and yes I just read thru the manual a little more thuroughly and confirmed the usb audio port...I just got my hands on the manual today so didnt have the chance to dig into it yet...wanted to give it to u guys first! ;P

U got that one Iceman!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] iceman4357:
And if you guys didnt read my posts in the other ATT thread, here is an email directly from my ATT rep that came from corporate confirming the Oct 8th date:

"Hello Eric,

I figured that I would make your evening!! See below: I have put in Bold the information that will make you happy! Looks like we will be ordering in a couple of days.

Have a great evening!

Channels: Consumer Care, COR, Local Dealer, National Retail, DMDR, and Small Business

Roles: Representative and Above

Markets: All Markets

Contacts: Your Manager

AT&T will launch the HTC Tilt 2 to all channels of distribution on October 8, 2009.

The HTC Tilt 2 has a large, vivid, tilting touch screen that enables easy navigation via the Touch FLO™ 3D interface. The HTC Tilt 2 has an extra-large physical QWERTY keyboard, plus on-screen touch virtual keyboard that works in horizontal or vertical orientation. The HTC Tilt 2 provides a quality speakerphone experience with dual speakers, dual microphones and advanced noise cancellation with StraightTalk™ technology.

The HTC Tilt 2 from AT&T arranges conversations by people, not by the application that used. Users can now see a history of conversations, in whatever form it took place, directly from the contacts list. The HTC Tilt 2 comes loaded with AT&T applications, but users can also download more applications through AT&T’s Appcenter, or from the Windows MarketPlace Mobile store. The HTC Tilt 2 supports quad-band GSM, bi-band HSDPA/UMTS, Wi-Fi, and Bluetooth."
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] starstreak:
I know nobody has it yet, but do you think:

1) There won't be any gps lag like the original Tilt or it'll be like the Touch Pro?

1a) Just curious if I could just load a GPS program like iGO8 or TT and it'll work with the high resolution screen?

2) Is there a version of MS Voice command that will work on this, unlike the hit/miss on the Touch Pro?

I'm really looking forward to a larger screen than my Touch Pro. I love the higher resolution than the Tilt, but made things a bit too small to read on the screen. I'm hoping that even with the higher resolution, with the 3.6in it'll be readable.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] WatermelonSlim:
I have the unlocked (European) Touch Pro 2, using it on AT&T (I'll be getting the Tilt 2 as soon as they'll sell it to me though). It has the same specs, for the most part, so I can answer your questions.

1: Yes, you can install whatever GPS app you want. Yes, there is a little lag while it finds the GPS signal (when you first load it up). It is great on the bigger, high resolution screen.

2: According to the Tilt 2 manual, it ships with MS Voice Command already installed.