yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] webfrm:
Manila request

Hey At0m is it possible to have the manila tf3d21E in a cab? I installed a manila free version since I like that your ROM is so light (plenty of memory). However I would like to try the Manila and would like to try the previous posts mention to see if I have any issues with my installed apps.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] At0mAng:
http://www.4shared.com/file/119939804/8e75002d/Rhodium_Manila_V1E_-_cab_install.html

There you go...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] moSess:
Im kinda getting this problem as well except with the tab on tf3d2. the tab works just not the button on screen to make the call in the people tab. the text and mms work though. weird:confused:

Is it the tachi dialer its looking for possibly as you stated?? im running the oem version 5.8. touch pro dialer.

any help is apppreeeeeciated cause im feeling this rom. if we get the kinks out its a keeper and i can send a measly appreciation donation. as a matter of fact i will anyway...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] At0mAng:
Yes it is looking for Tachi dialer that is why it is not working. If you like that feature on the contact page than try the Touch Pro TF3D version since it has the Touch HD contacts tab but then you are missing the rest of TF3D2.

Thanks for the support!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sammypwns:
the soft keys change on all the other ROMs though.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] At0mAng:
Really? I never tried any other ROMs...just never had the time. I swore in the Touch Pro2 video I saw them stay the same so that is why I guessed it worked just like the windows start menu.

Will look into to it to see why it does that.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] At0mAng:
Start Menu & Windows Live (MSN) issues

Start Menu:

I just flashed a freshly cooked ROM with TF3D2 straight from zip file they were given to me. I am sure all cooks are using the same package. End result is that the softkeys remain what they are on the home tab. I don't know if it is something else in my build causing that, if it is a TF3D2 1E bug or just how it works on Raphael. I suggest asking in the TF3D2 thread in Development & Hacking.

Windows Live (MSN) connection issues:

With the new cooked ROM I baked in Windows Live and now I am able to connect with WiFi and it does not make a data connection even with WiFi on. So I am going to guess that being cooked in may have fixed some other issues a few were having.

What version are you guys using tha have the Windows Live data issues? I will post it up and you can try it out.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] venelar:
5.8 oem

thanks!

I had to flash something else today for work, but im about to flash back and continue to work on gps. Not sure why it isnt working. I've been using the gps cab you made long ago on the leaked ATT5.08rom thread. I'll try to remove my noob from it and see what I'm doing wrong :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] At0mAng:
Thanks for the fix...will make it off by default for now on.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] At0mAng:
TF3D2, TF3D or No TF3D?

GPS should be working great. I was using it all day today with google maps and always got a good lock.

Let me know if you find anything wrong.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ilNebbioso:
A strange issue, here.

Only into TT7 (no other app involved) if I slip the keyboard and/or write a name of a city/street into destination with the hardware keyboard the software adds some extra "Å" for each key pressed.

Obviously, if I use Tt7 software keyboard all works fine.

What's wrong?! Am I alone with this (noisy and little) problem?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] simonhang:
This is a known problem...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] vdKarel:
known. I had it in previous versions (and on my TP) as well ...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] labbbby:
Known issue but it has a known fix for TP which people above failed to mentionned.

I think the TPII will have the same fix.

Same issue as this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=444641

and here (cab is easier to find here)

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=683913

Personally I had to hard reset my phone so you might wanna backup to be safe!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mika34:
I've problem with cars icons instead of ugly arrow. I copyed art\cars\.... to my memory stick in to program files\tomtom7.195\ and when i run tom tom it can`t find any icons. help please
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] derekcranson:
Put the art folder into the root of the sd card
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mika34:
Tryed. No luck. Voices working fine. this is my second Tp2 and with the first one had no problem at all. But this one has Rom ver differend then the other. now i have 1.19.401.0

................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

Finally found it. After hard reset, installing other ver. of tom toms, it appeared that the issue was i had too many cars icons in the folder. or something like that. I just delited 50% of them and now works like charm. thx for helping
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ToniPons:
Try with this, on my TP2 it solve...

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZKSQN3T4

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NK0YDUUU
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ilNebbioso:
ToniPons,

which version of TT are you sending us?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ToniPons:
It's the 7.916.9189 version too but this has not the bug...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] freaknormel:
I am using tomtom version7.916 with 835.2420 ( western europe ) map..

No keyboard problem anymore
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] adelco93:
so is this the official release?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
lol

Idk what or why this post is here.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Neither do I. lol

And no, there won't be any official Herald 6.5's. I can't wait until 6.5.1, though, so I can port it to the Herald.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] adelco93:
Sorry, just came back from a business trip, when i wrote that i'd been awake for more than 20 hours, what i meant was is this a newer build, so i can port it myself to my wing.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
What build is that?

Currently, I have 23001, 23004, 23007 and 21925.

21925 is from the MS's experimental branch. It's got a LOT of GUI changes, massive changes, but it's a little unusable at the moment.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Like what GUI changes and such?? Anything interesting or revolutionary? Did they make WinMo more finger friendly? Sounds cool.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] adelco93:
oh, thank you for the info. I'm just going away for a while and i just want to get stuff done right now while i can, that includes trying to get up to date with my phone.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
More finger friendly, yes.

Here are some screenshots.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1037817&postcount=6005
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Ahh! It's ugly!!...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] WhatzinyourphonE:
thanks ivan for the info. Should we move discussion of 6.5 for the herald here? ivan tell me in at least one of those builds theyve fixed the typing predictive thing! and wow! MS is really making an effort to use no styless! I cant wait to put it on my phone! one thing they need to bring back is the transparent bars, top and bottom! please! microsoft!!!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
They do have the transparent bars, it's just that Ivan's theme in JustHome disabled the transparency. If you put a new theme on it, then they can be transparent.

And yea, I say this thread is perfect for WM6.5 discussion, why the heck not?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
Transparent bars never actually existed in Windows Mobile 6.5 at all, at least not true transparency. Each of the bars is a theme image, what gives it transparency is changing the Opacity of one of the theme images in photoshop or something, but still this will not equal true transparency. This is why in the Programs menu, you still cannot see the programs when they are under a translucent (semi-transparent) bar.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
The ugliness will hopefully go away. That build family is just where they test everything to see whether it's a good idea or a bad idea.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Yea, why not.

As far as the typing predictive thing, I'm not sure what MS changed that caused it.

And yes, they're moving towards capacitive screens. (Which is what we use for the Android phones and for the iPhone.)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
So should we expect anymore 6.5 ROMs from you, or is the kitchen the last thing?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I don't know. I don't want to get ahead of myself. I MIGHT be releasing a few "stock" ROMs and a few stripped ROMs based on the new SJK set I'm building, but after that, I might just start porting the kitchen to other devices only. (And I have to spend some time finding multi language packages.)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
You can release the new 6.5 one if you want lol :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Yea, that would include 6.5 in a few different languages as well as 6.1 in a few languages.

Or just the WHOLE kitchen.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] fishwiz45:
hey ivanmmj, have you seen any references to or hints of the tellme software(voice recognition stuff) on any of the 6.5 builds yet? i'm really looking forward to this http://www.tellme.com/you
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Not yet, but from the looks of it, it's not an official Microsoft product, so it might never be leaked with the MS builds. It looks like a program that just happens to be for 6.5
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] WhatzinyourphonE:
Ivan, I know you stopped on the Justhome roms. But how about releasing the 21925 build? I just watched a video of it, i want to see how it is. and did you noticed the rounded edges on the screen? Check pocketnow.com to see it. Hopefully when MS is done, 6.5 will really stand out!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
The newest 21928 build is out, too. I haven't messed with it because there are a lot of UI issues with it. (Can't get to certain menu's.)

I am currently focused on getting SJK ready, but I can technically dump 21928 into it an hope for the best. I won't have any time to mess with this until next week, though.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] WhatzinyourphonE:
ok, no rush. wat do u need to know to cook a rom? wing users need more cooks and im up for it. Ive done everything but cook! and since ur busy and semi retired ill fill in for u!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Dude, you won't have to know, like, anything. Once Ivan releases his SuperJustKitchen, it'll be easy as ever. It's a "visual" kitchen, so you just select the options and go! I think after he releases that, everyone will just be making their own ROM's. It'll be fun once that's released.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] SSJ_Gomike:
Yeah, i'm pretty excited about it too....
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] daniel_costa_rj:
here is the video with Windows Mobile Build 21925, many things change, it's nice. rsrs KNOW WE CAN BACK TO THE MENU AFTER USE SOMETHING OPTION OF SETTINGS EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE hjauahuhauHUAhhAHUauhAUHAuhuAHUHuhAUHUah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhiYQwCIVdI
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] SSJ_Gomike:
Very impressive....i would like to be able to cook this build into a ROM using SuperKitchen soon as it's ready....

Thanks for the video!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
As I mentioned, that build is not ready for prime time. You can't access a lot of the menus because of the layout.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
I've been trying to cook that 21925 build into a ROM for a while. It's my first ROM, so I'm just trying to learn everything, and I've failed so far. But I wanna play around with that *new* build, so if I get it working, I'll let you guys try it too.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Well, there's a hybrid 21925/23008 going around, but I'm not sure what is taken from which version. (Someone put it together over at ppcgeeks, I believe.)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] DrE_braxx:
sooo... do you have to download each part individually, or do you just pick one, download, and install, i need some sort of explanation why do they have to make it difficult for people who know nothing :(...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Sounds like they cut the work out for me, then. I might look into that, if I can ever figure out how to cook a freakin ROM, first.

Ivan, how do you cook in a .CAB file??? I got the cab file extracted into the proper setup for using in a ROM (using some tool). Now, where do I place the folder? Do I have to re-name the folder too, or will any name work? And do I have to create a .TXT file or anything for it, or JUST place the folder in the OEM folder? I need some full, quality instructions. I'm gonna ask the ToadLife guy too. I searched my heart out, cooked my heart out, flashed my heart out, and couldn't get it to work. Plz help!!! Thanks, Ivan.

Idk. You need the SYS folder and the XIP.bin file. Not sure what that download has. I'm new to cooking too, but if I ever figure this **** out, I'll write up some good instructions and help you out.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
In the case of the older OEM folders, it's as simple as converting the CAB to an OEM converter using any of the readily available cab converters then inserting the folder (whatever name it may be without spaces) into the OEM folder. Nothing else needed. The converters usually take care of the rest.

And I don't know what that link is. I've never bothered with it.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
You would need to convert the cab into its OEM parts, you can search "CAB to OEM", but it would probably be easier to search for an Application already in OEM format. And I'm pretty sure you just place the application oem folder inside the OEM folder in the kitchen's Working_folder.

EDIT: Oops didn't realize Ivan was posting here to lol, sorry for the double post.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Ok. I already made the .CAB file into an OEM file, if I already didn't mention that.

So, what will make the difference is removing the spaces from the folder's name??? The folder's current name is.."Pointui Home v 1_51a". If I remove the spaces, then it'll work, eh? So simple..I'll try it out. thanks for that, Ivan.

And Arpreincher, or whatever the heck you are. You didn't help me at all, buddy. I already tried that. I didn't know about having the spaces in the folder though. So just shut it, and write your guide to the Wing already.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
How to cook a .CAB file into a ROM

Here's how to take a .CAB file, convert it to the OEM format, and then cook your new ROM with it.

Download Package Creator v 2.7.zip

Extract it to a location of your choice

Open the extracted folder, Package Creator v2.7

You should see this in the folder...

You can go ahead and remove the Pointui Home v 1.51a.CAB file. It is not necessary. But it is also not necessary to remove that file, since you can have mulitple .CAB files in that folder. Do what you want with it.

Take the .CAB file that you want to be cooked in your ROM, copy it, and paste it into the Package Creator v2.7 folder.

Now your Package Creator v 2.7 folder should be similar to the screenshot shown in step 4, but you should have the .CAB file that you just pasted into it there.

In the same folder (Package Creator v2.7), run the Package Creator v2.7.exe file.

You should see this screen...

Click the Open Cab file button. A new window will then pop up. Navigate to the location of your Package Creator v2.7 folder (if it's not already there), and then double click your desired .CAB file.

Wait for one second, and then a window will pop up, saying Done. Click OK.

Now go back to your Package Creator v2.7 folder, and observe that a new folder was created there. Whatever the name of it is, it is now your .OEM app folder.

You now need to remove the spaces from that folder's name. Click on the folder once (so that it's highlighted), and then click on it a second time (so that you can re-name it). You can change the name of the folder to whatever you like, but make sure that there are NO spaces left in the folder's name!!

Open your kitchen folder up.

Navigate to your OEM folder within your kitchen.

Take the folder that you created and re-named (in steps 12 and 13) and drag it into your OEM folder. Just place it in the root of your OEM folder.

Cook your ROM like normal now. Your new .CAB program will be automatically installed! If you have more questions, just ask, and I'll clarify it more.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
So yea, I figured it out (how to cook the cab) as you saw above. Thanks Ivan!!

But Ivan, how can you control which programs get started when you boot up the phone? I'd like PointUI to be loaded automatically when you boot the phone, you know? Just direct me to the file name of the file that I need to edit, that should be all I need to get going. Thanks again!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
I discovered how to make a program that I cooked in automatically boot.

Now, I wanna figure out how to create a .CAB file that simply places a shortcut for a program into a folder. Do you know how to do that, Ivan??

I have an ultimate goal, as to why I want to create that. Since when PointUI automatically boots up, when you first flash the ROM, PointUI interferes with the screen calibration, which makes the phone basically unusable. If I create a .CAB file that does what I said in paragraph 2, then I can make that CAB file install in the ExtROM while the ROM is setting up on the device after flashing. Therefore, the screen will already be calibrated, but then on the next boot-up, the shortcut to run PointUI will be in the start up folder, which will make PointUI run on all future boot-ups. So is there any other way I could achieve that? Making a program auto-start up after the initial screen calibration is done? I don't want to install PointUI using ExtROM, because ExtROM doesn't give the benefits that cooked-in programs do, right?

Thanks for the help. If you can just tell me how to create a CAB file that places a shortcut, that'd be awesome. I've been searching through threads for hours now, and had no luck :( Thanks!!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I suppose the easiest way would be to make the shortcut installing part of the configuration that is done at the beginning (the config.txt file.)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Ok, I'll look at that then. I'll tell you if it works.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Oh yea, so in the Config.txt file, how would I put in a create shortcut command?

Nvm, got it working!! See below. I wrote up another total dummies guide on how to create the shortcut.

(I know I'm using this thread as a sort of "how to cook" thread, but this thread really has no importance right now, as someone already said before!)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
So, Ivan, How do you cook in a theme file? (.tsk)

I can't figure it out :(
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Yes. Easiest way is to call the cusTSK command from the config.txt.

Use something like:

EXEC:\Windows\cusTSK.exe \Windows\HTC_Default.tsk

That will configure your ROM to use that TSK during the set up procedure.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Ahh, I see how that works now. I saw that posted somewhere else before, but didn't understand what they were talking about. I think I got it now. Thanks a lot Ivan!! (I'm writing up a huge How To guide, as I go, so future people will have it easy) (Oh, and thanks for the quick reply. I hate waiting!)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
So, Ivan, how do you do registry edits and cook them in? I haven't found anything on how to do that yet.

Nvm, I think I found some instructions that are good. I'll be posting back if I get it working or not.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I use reg files since I use the visual kitchen, but I used to just do selective dumps of what I needed (using my phone to test and set the settings) then I would save the registry keys in the RGU files.

To search for keys that you want to nix or modify, it's a secret. ;) I've taught one person how I do it. I will write up something if need be (if you can't figure it out.)

The big thing that I've learned while cooking is that you HAVE to develop SOME things yourself because while you do all the researching, you'll uncover a LOOOOOT of cool things that you wouldn't have known you wanted.

When I learned how to cook, there weren't any walkthroughs. It was just a read the VERY little and make up the rest. That's where you learn the most. ^_^ With all the information put together, we can make it easier for anyone to get started. But the experts will be those who venture into the unknown. ;)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Hehe. Well I "venture" into these unknown files a lot. I don't enjoy reading that much, so if it's at all possible, I try to figure it out myself. Then I check online to see if I can find a tutorial. Then, if those 2 fail, I ask you.

And searching for the registry keys to edit sounds cool. I might hit u up about that later.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
So, Ivan, I got some of WM6.5 to boot. I've been porting the SYS folders, one by one. I've identified that the Base_Lang_0409 and the OS folders are the one's that cause it to not boot.

I can just leave those folders out of the port, and use the old ones, but if I use the old OS folder, will that have any effect on the ROM???
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
You should really use a newer base_land_0409 (find another one to replace it, if you have to.) It's strange that that's what fixing the issue. Did you check the modules that I mentioned?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
I haven't tried replacing those modules, since the phone booted fine with them as-is. But I guess I'll try those and see if they make any difference in combination with the new Base_Lang_0409
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Well, actually, Holly's kitchen doesn't have a nk.exe folder/file anywhere. Neither does the 23016 SYS folder. Weird.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
The nk.exe folder is actually located in the XIP folder. I haven't ported the XIP yet, since I could never get anything to work, I've been working on the SYS only.

But I guess I'll replace the nk.exe folder with a new 6.5 build one. I'll see if that makes a difference!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Do NOT replace the nk.exe.

It's device specific.

You have to port the XIP for the SYS to work properly. It's both or nothing. But the XIP has to be ported properly.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Ok, well, I did port everything previously, and it didn't work. That's why I was just working on the SYS individually, to see what was breaking it.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
How are you porting everything in general? Maybe I can help you with it all.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] DrE_braxx:
oh wow.........................
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Yea, you CAN help me!!!

So, this is what I've done so far...

Started with Holly's Kitchen

Replaced SYS folders one-by-one, identified that Base_Lang_0409 and OS folders cause the phone to not boot

Then I tried porting the XIP folder, since you said it's all or nothing. Not sure how to exactly port the XIP though.

For the XIP, I have the 23016 XIP folder from another kitchen (QVGA). Would I just use that XIP folder? Are there some folders that must stay in the XIP?

I hope you can help me somehow. If you need more info, just ask me, and I'll try to tell you.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
This is the kitchen that I got the 23016 files from (http://www.sendspace.com/file/6kwauc)

So maybe if you look into those files, then you can see what I'd have to do, instead of just navigating blindly.

Think you can help me?