yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chumpster:
Hi Simo,

For the version 1.21 download link on your web site:

The cab version is correct.

The zip version is pointing back to v1.0.

Can you please fix this?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ssj5trunks:
Okay, i corrected the files download, now the zip file is ok.

Bye
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] robh1234:
Nice app.

Is it possible to separate the unread email count shown in the balloon for each email account setup. It would be nice to setup shortcuts to each account inbox and have an unread total for each.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hendrixus:
and error Androkkid when using the standard theme clicking the screen, seel below attachment.

More problems. I have three pages. The dot shows with page you're on. I can only zsee the dot goin to yhe left and right dot, not the middle dot. I notice now I can only swap two page instead of three.strange. Before I had three.

I also wonder what will become of this program in the future since "ss5trunks" has a Hero with Android and is developing on the PC emulator?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DuperMan:
Nevermind.

The problem wasn't with Androkkid itself but with the .Net compact framework 3.5 calls regarding region/date information and Eyron's Hebrew.

Some more details in the edit to my original post.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] surrealbliss:
12gage - I hope you didn't give up on Androkkid... I have the same phone as you and would be willing to share my settings.ini. PM me your e-mail and I will send it to you.

I currently have a link on my screen that opens \Windows\taskmgr.exe

with this open I can see all of the running applications, end tasks, switch to tasks, or even end all tasks..

I haven't tried WK Tasks that I see everyone talking about but from what I've read it seems like a good solution too. ;)

Simo:

I have a suggestion/request... instead of page balls is there any way to display what page you're currently on more like the Hero? I'm sure you know what I mean already since you have one but I'm attaching a screen shot with the area marked showing the middle screen for anyone else who may not know what I mean.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chumpster:
Hi Simo,

I agree with kraski. The Androkkid taskbar looks really good and I like the functionality a lot; but it does overlap with the layout of my pages.

I am not sure if this can be done, but as suggestion, can you change the Androkkid task bar to be a widget. That way, we can put it on certain screens only, or change the location of the task bar or we can resize it to meet our needs.

It is merely a suggestion, but I think it would be useful. Thank you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] qkzoo:
Theme Customization

Hi Simo,

I have a bit of a request. You already have it setup so that the user can customize the color of the fonts. The problem, I just discovered, is that the color of the font in the notification bubbles cannot be changed. I was working on the Paper Theme I developed and created a custom bubble notification, but because the background was light in color, you couldn't see the numbers that should be there. Know what I mean?

Thanks ,

Q
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] surrealbliss:
I never got a response for a request I mentioned previously so I thought it may have been looked over and missed so here goes again... and if this cant be done just let me know and I'll stop asking. ;)

I was wondering if the letter p could be added to the list of acceptable characters found in a phone number. The reason I ask is because I use Google Voice, which after I call them they request me to put in my 4 digit code. With the use of p (for a pause) I can put the phone number followed by 2 p's and then the pin, and then when I call them I'll be signed in automatically.

Thanks simo, Great app.. I'll continue using it all the way up until I get my Hero. ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] archomage:
nice

really nice app.

moves extremly well for a .NET app on win mobile.

no bugs so far.

just one question: how do I use the folders?

I add a new icon, after that I edit it, set the type folder but in the dialog for selecting the folder I can only pick a file. If I pick a file a get an error message (something about converting null to Integer).

great job!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] burnlea:
The technique is to create a new shortcut/icon, then drag and drop it onto the folder.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] archomage:
nice

It worked. Thanks

Tips and tricks: If you don't want to use iContact or another contacts app, I discovered I can use a nice app called go2contract to have multiple options for contacts.

I create a new contract shortcut, setting any number to call.

After this, I edit the shortcut:

- type normal

- link: gotocontact.exe

- parameters: "Will Smith" (the name of the contract in quotes).

Save. This way I will have also the image of the contact.

When I click the contact, it will open the windows mobile contract page, where I can send sms, call a different number (mobile, work, car..etc), send email..

Regards,
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] qkzoo:
Do you have a link to where to get this program? Sounds like it would be a nice tool to include in the Utils folder of Androkkid.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kraski:
A quick Google search brings us right back here to xda: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=1908414 . Looks very interesting.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chumpster:
I think one thing you can do if you use iContact is to create the Google Voice number as a contact and use iContact to create a shortcut. An icon will appear in programs, and then you can place that in Androkkid. I remember icontact as being able to handle the letter p.

Another member here suggested using "go2contract" and that might work too. But if you are running iContact, then you should be able to create shortcut/icon without any problems.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] qkzoo:
BoxListBack.png

Hi Simo. Not sure if this is specific to 1.2.1.0 or not, but the background you see when you tap "Programs" doesn't stretch all the way across the screen. The graphic used there is a 20 x 20 png - BoxListBack.png. The bottom bar stretches all the way across, so it looks funny when the back drop doesn't. Anyone else experience this? I checked several different themes including the Standard and Hero one, all do this.

Thanks,

Q
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] shumash:
Any chance you can recompile this to use .Net 2.0 instead of .Net 3.5? My ROM contains the .Net 2.0 runtime, and I can't figure out a way of installing .Net 3.5 without burning a new ROM, which I would prefer not to do.

Thanks for a great theme!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] alecoddlyiv:
why dont you just install the 3.5 runtime:confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] orangekid:
because you have to install to device and it takes up like 6.5 megs,

the real answer is to flash a rom with 3.5 already cooked into
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] quicksite:
The problem there is the difficult resolution problems that presents for QVGA users. I don't know how Simo approaches his development, but I am guessing he does believe in the core value of "graceful degradation" for lesser resolution screens.

I know this from both sides of the fence: (1) I have Androkkid on my older T-Mobile Wing, QVGA, and it looks great, but of course the curve of the rounded grey bar at the bottom is very pixellated and jagged, simply because there are not enough pixels to make it smoother looking. ... and

(2) I now have the HTC Hero and so I have the exact interface Simo's hero theme is more or less emulating or representing.

I have a suggestion which I am going to make on a comment below, but it boils down to this: I think users need to give a little in their tweeking expectations, particularly when it comes to graphic placements. These developers work their asses off, doing it for free, and they don't HAVE to -- but the best developers try very hard to accommodate all screen sizes and resolutions. You can imagine how difficult that is, with about 5 screen size and resolutions now. (see my suggestion below)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] quicksite:
SUGGESTION: re special unique-situation tweek requests

I'm following up what I said above. I can't find the original post, i think it was edited. But here it is from my email notification:

I just think requests like the above are beyond the bounds of what one should ask a developer to do here. That's custom software for one person, and I think it really is going beyond the bounds of what is reasonable to request without paying for your specialized need.

I think it is fine for people to openly make whatever requests they want, but I have also seen far too many times where the squeaky wheel of one persistent person with a specialized need clogs up the forward progress of the app for everyone else. (NOTE: I am not referring to this request specifically, because it's just been asked once. But others have asked repeatedly for very single-user customized changes.)

I think special request tweeks should be made with donation money attached: And I mean paying for the time it takes the developer to set aside his core development, to try to please a more specialized need.

If Simo disgarees with the comments I have made here, then I will respectfully delete them and "mind my own business"...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] quicksite:
well exactly. .. it's just so obvious. Who wants to develop for obsolete software?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] teacher1960:
Good comments quicksite, nice to see you back on the thread:)

But have a look at the themes thread how burnlea has solved the problem of pageballs/navigation in his Obsidian theme by putting a "labelbutton" like an icon on each different page(music/utilities,browsers etc. You can ofcourse make the button how big or small you want and/or include pagenumbers
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] qkzoo:
Page Numbering

I only have four-five pages in my interface, it's pretty hard to get lost! How many pages do you have on your device that you're getting lost in? In theory, you setup your own interface so you always know where you're at, or I could be wrong, I'll just shut up now. Peace!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] quicksite:
Well I recently cut mine way back from 32 pages down to 17. I like having certain widgets on a page all of their own.

hah hah, just kidding.

I have 5, which I think is simo's current limit?

But the issue here isn't page numbering or getting lost. My long-winded answer was not about that. It was about a simple request -- and a reasonable request -- someone made upthread, asking Simo if he could use the page location display used on the actual HTC Hero... It places marks along the curve above the grey programs bar along the bottom.

But this is not a trivial issue. People here are tech savvy. Mainstream people are easily confused with new devices. Go to any T-Mobile store -- listen to how they sell the new Motorola CLIQ, or the myTouch... They make a big deal out of the fact that one of them expanded beyond the standard Android config of 3 (or is it 5?) pages, and "this one has 7" ....

My Hero phone has 7 and I can tell you I would like more than 7, why? because SenseUI is really a variation, in many ways, of TouchFlo 3d --- so, see the number of tabs Touchflo 3D has -- there's a whole page for web, a whole page for music, a whole page forge for photos, for Messaging, for Contacts, Footprints, etc. And the concept of sliding across pages to get to content Categories, vs just an array of icons (like Simo's original iFonz had), is more and more common. Now there are separate pages for twitter client, a separate page for integrated social networking...

So, are you counting? Do you see those fitting on 4 pages?

The phone paradigm has chnaged, and with it, the most current trend is layout your smart phone exactly as you like it. So the idea of page context is not so stupid afterall, is it? :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] burnlea:
I have 9 pages and haven't reached the limit yet if there is one:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] teacher1960:
Onto the "soapbox" "The phone paradigm" has changed indeed, I read somewhere that in Japan mobiles are taking over more and more of what they used to do with computers, and that traditional computers are selling less and less. What we are talking about here on the pages of xda is not phones or handsets but the true meaning of the acronym pda: A personal digital assistant. This to use a cliche is the next step in human evolution. We can't achieve bodily superpowers yet, but with our "assistant" in hand we have "all human knowlledge" with us at all times, we have a direction finder better than any compass ever made. We are on the human grid like no humans have ever been before us

Usability it follows is alpha and omega of what we try to achieve. Your personal assistant can only ever be as good as it able to do it's thing userfriendly, quickly and efficiently.

I saw a sci-fi film on Tv as a teenager and the protagonist had a "Little Brother" with him at all times. It helped him with everything from directions to remembering when his mother birthday was. He talked to his assistant and though I understood at once that this was less than practical in all situations, I just knew there and then that this was going to come my way one fine day. This was back in the day when dinosaurs walked the earth and nobody even had cells.

So when I got my first pda a wallaby(see pic below) I was extremely happy and everybody else laughed their silly heads off from the sheer size of the thing. This was at the time when the coolest thing ever, was to have a cell the size of a box of matches. I knew then that I would have the last laugh, and just look at the direction we have moved now, this year I showed my old wallaby to some of my students and more than 10 of them wanted to buy it from me( it's about 10 years old for gods sake). I mostly wear a coat at work and my present htc x7510 with a 5 inch screen fits snugly in my inner pocket, It could have been twice the size and still have fit there.(I wish it was.

At the moment I "only" have 12 pages on androkkid 1.2.1 and quite a few more on ifonz and and androkkid 1.2.0 and 1.0.0 which I all run simultaneously for testing purposes. But this is only because I have been so busy with graphic learning and iconmaking. I'll have at least 10 more pages in the near future.

You just got to love what Simo has made here

In such an environment it certainly makes sense to group your apps like for instance browsers on one page and social apps on anothers and maybe to have page numbers on the pages (see screenshot below)

This was what I wanted to point out when I pointed to pagebuttons or if you want pagenumbers in burnleas obsidian theme.

Notice that I never use icon texts I find them silly. It your personal phone and if you use icons that are easy to "get" you really don't need to read Microsoft Word mobile underneath a blue "W" You know what the blue W or the green "X" is for, texts just clutter up the screen needlessly.

Getting off the soapbox now, sorry to be so longwinded but I learn from the best(you quicksite)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] finnfox:
It´s working well on PDA too.

I really like this.

I use it for HP ipaq 214, and its way better that original wm6 today.

Only problem I have is to create link or shortcut to wm settings.

Dont know how to do it or where to find that shortcut.

Next I´m gonna set it up to my old HTC hermes (tytn)

And so then I can really enjoy its all function and gags.

Keep up the good work. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] burnlea:
Simo has provided an executable, settings.exe, in the Androkkid\Utils folder. Just make a new shortcut pointing to that executable.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] surrealbliss:
In retrospect I hadn't thought about the fact that the Hero indicator bar would not be very good when more than 7 screens are used since it would indeed be difficult to tell which page you're on. I currently have the page balls turned off, and I was ok with that... I just thought it would be a nice suggestion that he might be able to accomplish. I too use a QVGA device so I know what you mean about the jagged edge on the bottom curved bar but that never really bothered me, and if the page balls were made into the Hero type indicator I still dont think I would be bothered by this.

Sorry if I sounded inconsiderate in my post asking for things... like I mentioned I wasn't even thinking of this for myself since Im happy with the indicator being gone completely. I just thought it would be a nice enhancement in the future.

I agree that donations should accompany requests, a great idea... ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] quicksite:
Blame teacher1960 for this needless waste of space!

I'm probably an anomaly here at XDA, but I love thinking like this, which speaks to the end games, the utilization of these devices and the instant access they bring us. Bravo for pulling your thoughts together on this. My bet is that if you polled XDA readers, 98% would probably vote

with 2% applauding and advancing the dialogue. I don't think I'm exaggerating.

But it's okay with me. Yours is the first post I have read in 5 years, other than my own, which has dealt with the capabilities brought to hand by these PDAs, smartphones, touchscreen computers. While it may be out of place on XDA from a popularity standpoint, i totally appreciate its content here.

Last night I donated to Wikipedia -- they are doing their end of year drive for donations to help operate the largest worlwide collaborative documentation of "everything we know" ever seen by mankind. I had ignored the earlier banner ads showing their targeted goal and how much they've raised. What pushed me over the edge was the personal message from the founder of wikipedia. I'm just learning the value of twitter (alltogether different from a rather useless "what are you doing now?"). It is now, to me, one of the greatest disseminators and incubators for crowd-sourced knowledge. The best usage I see is the collaborative filtering of really interesting stuff, article wise, event wise, opinion wise -- with the world's people all as potential curators.

Of that aggegate 2% of people that I guestimate is the total interest on subjects like these from XDA members, only a sliver of that number will ever read this post, or yours. But for those who do: I urge you to support wikipedia -- if you can -- because ultimately, the sum power of what these handheld devices provide us as people is way more than merely the joy of seeing animated weather, or accessing maps, or sending SMS messages.

What I tweeted last night from my little personal assistant device:

That is the truth. I still don't know if he is human, or just a subroutine who ends messages with "bye" which he/it claims to write at the start of each message, but a fantastic developer who's enabled Windows Mobile to be capable of doing way more than even the iphone can right now. I hope that people who use Androkkid, and have not yet donated, can make a small donation today -- This kind of work deserves our support.

And teacher, i'm with you all the way re the redundancy and visual clutter created by text names of apps under their corresponding icons. If the icon can't make it clear what it is, it is a failure as a piece of communication. So says me.

And now it is my turn to get off soapbox. Thank you, small sliver of 2%, for taking the time to read this!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] qkzoo:
Soapbox

Ooo Ooo me next, me next!

Q steps up on soapbox and suddenly feels as tall as everyone else. He feels authorative, powerful, and full of enthusiasm. He begins to speak...

"I like pizza!"

His words of wisdom roll through the masses, and he feels proud to have spread his intelligence to his peers.

Ok, I'm done. These posts magically pop into my email inbox every hour or so and I just had to pipe in!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] quicksite:
Hilarious!

Thank you, Homer Simpson! :) Crusty. Thin & crusty.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] teacher1960:
and with lots of cheese, mushrooms and peppers:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thepolishguy:
awesome

I started studying this thread. only got through the first 15 pages and just had to load up androkkid. just wanted to say- it has been awesome so far. very customizable. when i get more time i will read through the other 85 pages to make sure i haven't missed any cool tricks.

thank you for your hard work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jimski:
With all the crap stuffed in my head (and read in these XDA threads) I can't be bothered trying to remember what my 200 icons represent. The first 50 or 75, not a problem. One post in this thread claims to have 604 icons. I would sure like to hear him (or her) rattle all of them off. I stopped memorizing phone numbers the day I got my first Palm Pilot. As long as I can remember where I left my phone, I'm good.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] teacher1960:
Good point but for your average daily use, you use mostly the same few apps, and then if you look for an app you can just temporarily turn on the icon texts, so I still feel that I'm better off without the text cluttering up my screen for normal usage
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mjb1994:
i to switched from a htc to a i-780 and this is keeping me from switching to iphone 3g
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] quicksite:
It's time to nominate Simo for a 2009 XDA Devvy Award

I have taken the lead to move along an idea that, turns out, someone posted about in March 2008: the idea of having recognition awards for outstanding achievement in app & rom & skin development at XDA. Now that Android has so rapidly matured to become a major competitive platform to Windows Mobile, iPhone, RIM, the mobile phone app culture has exploded. As such, it's time, I feel, to recognize great achievements here at XDA -- and not next year, but this year.

See this thread and add your nominations in several categories:

NOMINATIONS: 1st Annual XDA Devvy Awards - for Outstanding Achievement

....... thank you .......

.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wmdirk:
WMD widgets

Just for those who haven't found there way to the widgets thread yet, my site now provides the following widgets:

- Agenda

- Tasks

- Clock+

- Profile

- RegInfo

- Bluetooth toggler

- Wifi toggler

- Calc
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ssj5trunks:
Good work WMD.

Bye to all and happy holidays.

Simon
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] burnlea:
Seasons Greetings to you Simo and many thanks for giving us Androkkid in 2009:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mjb digital:
no, no, no,

i did it more like this:

not installing anything into games.

I noticed I had to use file explorer because 'paste shortcut' exists where it doesn't in Total Commander.

There may be some knowledge I need here to make my life easier...who knows.

Anyway, I've been running androkkid through its paces for a while now. 8)

Still dig it.

Peace
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kraski:
Hope your Christmas is as blessed as I expect mine to be.

Bill
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] teacher1960:
Merry Christmas

Happy holidays to everybody on xda

to everybody who's making androkkid better by contributing and ofcourse especially to Simo

teach
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajige:
Forwarded

This was sent to me in a private message:

To jesus253: In order to post to the forums, you click on the "Post reply" button. That way everyone can see your message and respond. Private messages shouldn't really be used unless noone else will have any interest in it.

As for the answer: I'm not currently using Androkkid, but from what I remember, if you drag the icon down to the right, the color will turn red and you can delete the icon. But I'm not sure that's the way it works in the newest version, so maybe someone else can answer.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] taurusmillenium:
Indeed, just hold onto the icon and slide it to the bottom right. You'll get prompted to delete is, click yes and you're all done :)

You can also edit and move icons that way...

Maybe next time you should look at the videos that were made (c youtube...) where you can find the basis possibilities... Much easier and less time-consuming. :)

greets