yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ccw523:
I have been us 4.1 with M 2.1 since it came out and have had no sms as mentioned by others at all.

I am tempted to trying thr 6.5 R11 out. any major bugs with it?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dimisxxx:
It would be nice if at least tell us Dutty if you gonna release or not the finalised of your perfect 6.1 rom.......Please at least that TELL US TO WAIT OR NOT...........

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[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] paplino:
v4.2 - is it worth waiting ?

Hello, everyone,

Here I am with a (little off the topic) new question: I've been using Dutty's 6.1 v4 ROM since the day it appeared. I'm pretty happy with it so far, in terms of speed and everything (actually more than happy). It has a small bug, with the call list appearing empty sometimes when you're looking for your missed calls, but it's nothing I cannot live with.

Here is the question (adressed to those who have tested both v4 and v4.1): how would you guys (and gals, if there are any around this forum :) compare v4.1 to v4 (not taking into consideration the existing bugs) ? I mean in terms of speed, usability, battery life, in short general performance. I'm asking because i've been browsing this thread every day, hoping for the update, so the basic idea is: is it worth waiting for it ? When the bugs will be solved, would you estimate that the end product will be sensibly superior to v4 ?

I wouldn't want to end this message without thanking Dutty for all his efforts. He is doing the most wonderful job ever and, if anyone is planning to open a Dutty Throy fan club, count me in as a member :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
To answer the past 2 posts, WM 6.5 is definitely a step forward compared to WM 6.1. I've been using R11 for just over a day and haven't encountered any serious bugs yet. On the other hand, v4.1 is very stable and fast, probably a little faster than R11 but really hard to tell. If you are at v4.0, you might as well wait for v4.2, Throy had stated that he would do a final ROM with all fixes included but don't expect anything new.

If you are planning to migrate to WM 6.5, R11 is a good place to start, the biggest advantage being that it is more finger friendly.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] paplino:
makbil, thanks for the reply. I already tried several 6.5 roms, the best of them being Dutty's R6. It was nice, very "eye-candy", fast, but the device was heating like crazy (i mentioned the fact in the thread at that time, but I didn't get any relevant feedback). Of course, the battery was draining like crazy as well. That pressed me to downgrade to 6.1, since 6.1 roms keep my device nice and cool and double the lifetime of the battery. Of course, i'm willing to give 6.5 another shot, even multiple shots, since new builds come out frequently, but can anyone let me know how are things with R11 ? I'm not talking software-wise but hardware-wise, e.g. battery life, compared to 6.1 roms, any unnatural heating etc.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Throy has already stated that he will create a V4.2 rom but he is away at the min and wouldn't be back till Monday. Also he is devoting the majority of his time on wm6.5 roms as well as operating mostly on HTCPedia so inevitably there would be a delay on producing V4.2, but be patient folks, he will provide you with your rom, has he ever let you down before?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] paplino:
A new question (towards makbil, but anyone is welcome to answer): you were mentioning a R11 ROM based on Win 6.5. All I can find, both on xda-developers and on duttythroy.net, are versions R1 to R9. Is there, then, such a thing as a R11 release from Dutty ? Did I misunderstand ? What is the exact R11 that you've

Thanks for your help.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] EyeBees:
Dutty Release it Via http://htcpedia.com/

Register same as you did for XDA then the download Link is in the Change log.txt file at the bottm of the first post

http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=313
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Throy is now exclusively releasing roms on HTCPedia.com
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dimisxxx:
Do you mean its gonna release 6.1 fixed rom in there or not??????
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Dutty has said on a couple threads on HTCPedia.com that he will release ROMs to HTCpedia exclusively

You can take from that what you please. But if you check out his rom threads on HTCPedia and do a quick search for 'exclusively' you'll find the same quote Throy made
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
The battery heating issue and draining are actually two separate issues even though heating may contribute to battery drain. The heating is more dependent on the radio flashed than the actual ROM in use.

I had the heating issue with radio 1.14 which has stopped after flashing 1.16. Excessive battery draining (which I never had) may be due to bad flash, installed programs or not doing a HR after flashing. I agree that 6.1 ROMs generally have better battery life than 6.5 ROMs but not significant enough to stop me from using 6.5 ROMs.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] celestial123:
@ dutty

i am sure you are busy but please release the "real" finale rom which is bugfree. a month ago you said i will release "this weekend". i am tired to check xda so often! please dutty!! at least inform us.. thank you.. you are the one..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Matthes42:
you will never get a new version here. read this thread some posts earlier
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fulham:
I hard reset my device and found that Youtube works beautifully without anything installed in the device, i.e. with the basic rom (wm6.1 v4.1) alone.

So I guess something installed later on is causing problem with Youtube. And it must be something common to all as most of us (if not all of us) are having this problem.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] paplino:
Thanks for another useful reply, makbil. In deed, I have radio 1.14, I read in some post that this radio might heat up the device, but with win 6.1 it works ok, without any overheating. Anyway, I'm a little afraid of flashing the 1.16 radio with the security unlock and everything. The installed programs cannot be an issue, since I always have the same ones installed and they don't generate any problems on win 6.1, but another point where you're right is that I did not perform a hard reset after flashing.

My question here would be the following: why would it be advised to perform a hard reset after flashing a rom ? I mean, I know that's the advised procedure, but what are the underlying reasons for doing that ? Once the rom has been flashed and it has configured itself (practically a hard reset in itself), what would another hard reset do that would help the stability and performance of a rom ? (Probably a noob question, I know, but, since I'm of an inquisitive nature, I would greatly appreciate an answer :) )
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
paplino, this is just going to be an educated guess but I'm thinking that the first boot probably does not clear memory as it should, some programs & data may be locked in memory, whereas when the second hard reset is done, it wipes everything clean. However, I don't see any point in subsequent hard resets, I think one is enough.

PS: I lived in Prague for a while, when it was still behind the iron curtain, the environment must be totally different now. There wasn't much to do there at the time, the only word I remember...zmrzlina :) (I hope I got that right)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lukecz123:
After hardreset, without anything installed in the device, i.e. with the basic rom (wm6.1 v4.1) alone, my Youtube app. gives me the same error: This video cannot be played. Can anyone help please?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jovann:
Lukecz,i have the same problem..try everything,still not working..sad..will try duttys 4.0
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fulham:
[Originally Posted by fulham:

I hard reset my device and found that Youtube works beautifully without anything installed in the device, i.e. with the basic rom (wm6.1 v4.1) alone.

So I guess something installed later on is causing problem with Youtube. And it must be something common to all as most of us (if not all of us) are having this problem.]

It's really weird that IT WORKS on my device perfectly alright after hard reset!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] amanbahra:
hi, after a little help, installed this rom, and its working without any issues, however, when re-sync'ing with activesync, i left "notes" checked on the sync list. Since then, whenever i go into the notes application i get the following error -

"Cannot Open note. It has been renamed, moved, or deleted."

you can click "OK" and continue using the application, but this error appears EVERY time the app opens, and is becoming annoying. I assume it is related to the AS issue, but can anyone assist? I'd love to avoid a hard reset cause everything is now setup!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Why not remove device from activesnc and then add device again this time not leaving 'notes' checked
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] amanbahra:
thanks for the advice, but i think ive fixed it another way!! i thort i had tried everything until i tested opening "notes" from the all programs list rather than my shortcut on the start menu, and it didnt display the error...

had a look in the registry and the shortcut entry for notes under "hklm\sw\htc\manilla\prog launcher" and it had a key for "command" which looks like it was left from a previous shortcut, ive removed the key and all is now ok.

thanks v much for the reply and idea tho! :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hesian:
Since it appears there will be no patches for 4.1 to fix the YouTube issue, is it agreed that 3.9 is actually the best 6.1 version ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] paplino:
makbil, you were right spot-on: I flashed Dutty's R11, did not forget to surround myself with post-its saying "DON'T FORGET TO HARD RESET AFTER FLASH", hard reset afterwards and voila ! The ROM works like a charm, no overheating, very fast. At last I can fully enjoy the WinMo 6.5 experience.

Conclusion #1: whatever the reason for a hard reset after flashing, it's not a hoax, or some unnecessary chore. Do it guys, it really helps.

Conclusion #2: makbil, you've got a talent for relevant replies. Thanks (once again) for the help.

PS: You got it right, zmrzlina means ice-cream. Not that I'm any expert in Czech language, I'm actually Romanian, just working here, in Prague. Unfortunately, I cannot return the compliment, since I never visited Turkey and all I know in Turkish is "arkadaş" and "şekerli balonu çiklet".The last one was from the chewing gums imported with great efforts, before 1989... Back then, I thought Turkey was a paradise country, full of candy and cookies... Aaah, good old times... :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cristianomc:
Ya! After trying WM6.5 Leo R1, and R11, I'm back to 3.9XT :o
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
You are welcome, I'm glad I could help.

I guess we are neighbors after all :) Yeah, we all think we lived in paradise when we were young :p

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Just to get back on topic, I think that 3.9, 4.0 and 4.1 are pretty much on par with each other. Throy has just announced on the HTCpedia thread that with R12, he would revert some drivers back to previous versions proven to work without problems. You may want to try that if you are thinking of switching to WM 6.5.

I'm quite satisfied with 6.5 and would find it hard to switch back to 6.1. It's getting to the point that it is almost as stable and fast as 6.1.

Just beware of Manila 2.5, I don't believe it is still ready for production use.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lufeig:
yep. i made a supernatural effort to not flash 4.0 and 4.1 because of some of the new bugs.

about dutty's wm 6.5, i'm waiting for a more stable and faster version. when manila 2.5 gets ready for daily use, which i think will take some months, i'll flash it again.

my 3.9 xt turbo rom works 99,9% of the times flawlessly, and it is so customized and tweaked for my needs that i'll keep it running on my blackstone until i find a release that is on par with it (in my opinion!).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cristianomc:
Agreed 100%! Manila 2.5 home screen is "diferent", to be honest, just that. There are some improvements on the overal system, appearing that it goes deeper in the OS. But I don't like my wallpaper to be hide by that widgets. About WM6.5, I prefer to wait until the final version so I can "see" how it will looks like.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xetro:
Me too, although I am still trying some other ROMS. Also I would like to remove the shortcuts on manila 2.5 homescreen to show more appointments....

Still havent found a way to get that done :(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cobrax2:
dutty posted on htcpedia saying he will release 4.2 after r12, asking us to post there all the bugs that need to be fixed
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
link to thread for posting errors
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cristianomc:
The same here.. I think Dutty can do it! By the way, your country is incredible.. educated people and civility, beyond the beautiful girls! I bought my HD on Ede.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] seacoral123:
Beause hardcore user like me stuck on application compatibility on existing software. Second reason is (to me) there is not official release WM6.5, and wait till official release, there will be less flashing exercise.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Its not hard to believe at all, just Throys priorities are with wm6.5 and not wm6.1 at present though he has stated on HTCPedia just yesterday that he is now working on V4.2 with these fixes.

A thread has even been opened for posting errors on V4.1 so he can fix them. I provided link above in post#572
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Niels87:
Some how, some way, I can't seem to send text messages anymore... It keeps telling me:

"Your text message cannot be sent."

I used the Dutty WM6.5 R4 Rom before, with that ROM I did seem to be able to send messages. Though my girlfriend keeps complaining from about that date on that she keeps receiving half sms' sometimes when they are 2 sms long. (though that din't happen always) I keep thinking that that problem lies with her phone... Though the ROM worked, it had some bugs that... well... bugged me. So I was searching for another ROM and thought why not try a whole other ROM, so I went for the latest Energy ROM (EnergyROM HD (23016)). That's really when the problems started with my messaging I think. So I went back to the Dutty ROM, because that's still my favorite till now and got the latest Dutty ROM (this one). But still... I can't seem to be sending text messages. What did I f*** up?

Please help!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
Have you checked that your SMS is sent over GPS as opposed to GPRS? If it's the wrong selection some operators don't allow SMS to be sent.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Shival:
Egh. I just want something solid.

So much for the Final 6.1 ROM.

First of all and Foremost, our Blackstone, is a phone.

Everything else about it should be second priority.

Do the Beta-testers actually test it?

The latest advances in mobile communication tech/software are not worth anything if the phone does not ring.

Flash after flash, Rom after Rom, seems to yield nothing but misery and let down.

Its is like building a house on a foundation of graham crackers.

They say it maybe just a bad flash but then, why does nobody fix the flashing process?

While writing this, my phone probably rang but never made a sound. It could have been a job offer, it could have been an emergency.

Seriously, what are we praising?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] eyeofthetiger:
Quick question:

How do you adjust the calender so weeks start on mondays not sundays?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] swampy:
You must be doing something wrong if flash after flash your phone still has no ring. Every rom I've tried, not just Dutty's, the phone rings. You should revert back to your stock rom with stock radio.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Shival:
Backup/Restore ROM switching

Is it ok to use Microsoft MyPhone to backup when switching ROMs?

I would only be backing up my contacts, appointments, and tasks. Not my text messages or anything else.

Just thinking about Going from R7 to V4 Should I? or should I wait for R8?

I keep getting screwed over by the 6.5 ROM's =[

Kinda wondering if I flash wrong or something.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ehsanij:
wow thanks dutty for this rom i was just waiting for this rom, just flashed it is really the one i wanted
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
That should be fine. It would be hilarious if M$ messed that up :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
Testing v4

This ROM may be the last one based on WM 6.1. I would like to ask everyone to give the ROM a brief test before installing applications and customizing. This would help greatly in finding out any potential bugs (if any).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Shival:
With my luck, they will find me.!

Haha.

I wonder, If I used USPL instead of HSPL, would I have less bugs and would it be better if I flashed through my storage card?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
I always use USPL and flash through my PC, hasn't failed me yet. V4 is really smooth, playing around with it now.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] roheelshah:
dont want to start any competition, but what would everyone recomend, this new v4 or the new laurentius rom, for pure performance?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Matthes42:
Try Sashimi. It´s great.

http://www.winmo-experts.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4&sid=2f5e63c0a223d48d8737a6f40f1de88f
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Shival:
My main windows OS is Vista Ultimate 64bit. USPL hates 64 bit. It used to be such a long process to get USPL to work. I do not even know how I did it lol.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pandemoniumone:
I really believe this is something that comes down to personal preference. I've tried many Roms by many different cooks and Dutty's has always out performed the others. As you can tell by the Rom Development thread, and how many Roms that are available, there are plenty who would disagree with me.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cobrax2:
great work dutty, youre the best! i see this has manilla 2.1. does it still have the sms bug? or is it fixed?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
Two things I noticed so far:

1- Connection Manager does not automatically detect my country & operator settings, have to select them manually.

2- File Explorer does not like finger scrolling, was it like that? Or did I get too used to WM 6.5...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Shival:
So far, I have noticed

1. Connection Manager does not pop up like Makbil says.

2. Garmin did auto-install itself like it usually does but I didn't want it to anyways

I kind of think this file explorer is easier to navigate than the one in 6.5
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] roheelshah:
Thanks for the reply, ive got the 3.9 on my phone rite now, amazing rom but it rinses my battery alot, might have to try laurentis for a few days then v4 for a few days!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] suisen:
still very much there :/
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cobrax2:
pff, then will it be a manilla v2 version of it?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Shival:
Could I bother someone with V4 for a copy of their 2330fc3c_manila file?

I accidently just copied in the one I had from R7 2.5 Oppps.. =/
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmexme:
Autoinstall

How the Autoinstall process works? does it ask where to install in storage card or phone?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] roheelshah:
I have a very amateur question....

I have the dutty 3.9 rom (windows 6.1) on my phone rite now, can i put a 6.5 rom on my touch hd???????????????????

SORRY IF quesiton has been asked before!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pandemoniumone:
Auto install will only install programs to the Device, not the SD card.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] CaponiND:
This depends on your regional settings, for example if I set my home country Lithuania, my week starts on Monday and time format changes to 24h format.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cristianomc:
How may I set up HD to sound a beep or something else, from time to time, for notifications, until I check them?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
From Settings-> Sounds&Notifications, you can set a number of items to sound an alarm, flash the light (indefinitely if you want) or vibrate.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cristianomc:
Thanks makbil... but it sounds just once! I'd like it to sound from minute to minute (or other programed time) until I check it out. Is there a way for this?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
I believe for this you would need to add an app. Possibly something like G-Alarm, though I'm not sure
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
You can only have the light blinking indefinitely. As Fallen Spartan has suggested, you could install a 3rd party sw to do what you want.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ancola66:
A great rom, fast and light. I love it but function off lights when conversation does not work :( , you can check and fix it? Very thank :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] andrej@melicher.eu:
kitchen?

Hi,

first I want to thank you for cooking great rom. I'm going to be little bit pissy, but... Would it be possible to use your kitchen to make some changes? Mostly language translations and some cabs...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] biswasd:
password problem

hi everyone - when trying to extract dutty's rom, the password he provided is not working? anyone else have this issue?

I am typing everything lower case with no spaces; and alternatively i've tried it case sensitive per his first post, and it still won't work....please help!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
Copy the password to Notepad first, you may be inadvertently adding some control characters. Then copy from Notepad and paste into the password screen, that should work.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
Do you want the screen to turn off during a call?

Use HD Tweak and enable the first 3 options.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ajay1010:
hey i found a solution for it ....go to m.youtube.com download the youtube client again and it will work fine............
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] farzadmf:
Wireless Issue

Hi everybody,

I flashed Dutty's 4.1 ROM but now I'm not able to connect to my wireless modem which I used to connect to before, any ideas?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] duces_ace:
this question might be an unnecessary but your WiFi wouldn't happen to be a secure connection would it....you might just have to input the WEP key...if that's the protocol you use...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hesian:
Good find. You can't use Opera, try IE. The client is not the advanced one from before, just a standard windows mobile client but at least it now works again.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] f.cervera:
Hello everybody :

I've a couple of questions :

What's the difference between Finale Change Log and Changelog 1-5 ? What it referes to ??

Second one is I see nowhere in the applications list Excel and Word, or MS OFFICE MOBILE, but I guess this ROM has them' isn't it ¿¿

Thanks you all for your comments
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hesian:
Contains Excel, Word, OneNote and PowerPoint