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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] xSoNiCcRaCkErSx:
I have to agree with Lyian on this one. At my college some students doing a statistics project about cell phones found out that over 61% of the campus was using some sort of iPhone (2G-3G) and that another 20% or so were using a LG envy of some sort. I found this to not so surprising. I myself am using the iPhone (I know I know). I gave up on my old HTC 8525 due to the sluggishness of windows mobile. But now that I see the overhaul HTC has done with their Touch Interface, I really want one bad.

I popped into the ATT Shop yesterday and asked all the clerks and even asked to speak to the manager if they had any word on the HTC Touch Pro 2 or code-name ATT Fortress and they hadn't the slightest idea what I was talking about. Instead they kept showing me over to the iPhone 3G S and trying to get me to buy that instead (I told them I was looking to upgrade)

With ATT having the iPhone (and just getting the 3G S) they really is no need for them to push this phone out anytime soon. Maybe the 'changes' they will make to the phone will be there as to not overshadow their signature phone ;)

Maybe I should just get the 2G TP2...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] omaralt:
but they have released both the tilt and fuze; both of which were released along side the iphone. why would they stop now? i really believe that at&t markets these phones to two completely different markets; the fun young crowd (iphone) and the more business oriented customers (touch pro2). at&t has released an updated htc device every october/november. i dont see this being any different.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Lyian:
two reasons.

1. With each iPhone release, the sale of that model phone has been better than the last. Im sure the 3gs will outsell the 3g. At first they were all about the HTC phones, then the iPhone came out, and while they may have been holding on to the HTC phones as a 'just in case', they likely feel pretty secure in their sales of the iPhone and dont have to worry about it not being a good seller.

2. Apple is making more business like apps available to try to merge into that selling market as well. Now they arnt nearly as flexible as something on a Winmo(especially with the limited interface of the iPhone) but thats not the point, and i doubt ATT cares much.

I bet if you look at the HTC phones vs the iPhone sales, their would be a major difference. Perhaps they so much more potential profit from the 3gs release, that they don't see a need to bother with the Pro2

But who knows.. All any of us can do is wait and see what ATT ends up doing.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] omaralt:
But I don't understand why at&t would care? Either way they're making money, the data plan is the same price, why not offer both and give more options to their customers? makes no sense for them not to carry it, and I'm almost sure they will carry it. However its probably not gonna hit till october...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] g2tl:
At least two people from xda have seen it, so I don't think this thread is meaningful anymore.

Besides, the assumption made is questionable, since U.S. Cellular is on CDMA, not GSM
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Lyian:
well, they have to buy the phones from HTC.. and if they dont sell, then they lost money...
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] aniteshj:
sorry if I sound totally out and stupid, but are ota updates available for the Rogers HTC Magic? Or is this something that has yet to be made available up in Canada?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] confiq:
It's not stupid at all... I wander how to make my mobile OTA capable...

Does changing images makes OTA capable or OTA is clean googles cupcake OS?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] hammies:
I've been searching on xda and hofo, but haven't found any info on rogers updates.

I'd like to know if the rooted boot.img would prevent this update from installing. Can you change the title of this thread to something like "rogers ota updates"?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] str4vag:
i am looking for this too. i have a rooted rogers rom running on my HTC Magic. wondering if i can get it updated.

There is a manual download link for it on phandroid. and there is 2 flavours. US and UK. Which one should i take if i can update it that way. I am in Malaysia btw.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] str4vag:
anyone? i really want to know if the update will work..
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] alaskan84:
Im intersted as well, Im going to be purchasing a magic as soon as i get some questions answered. I want as full of a google experience as possible, so I would like the OTA updates, and I would like to be able to run the hero rom, which is why I would need the "rogers" magic.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] ClintonH:
No you wont be getting OTA updates from Rogers. They do not support there phone OS's just hardware, you'll have to email HTC for any updates. I had to go to Sony and Nokia for my last phones, said the same thing this time.

By the way the last OTA updates were security updates, I've read that it has caused problems for Rooted phones.:eek:

Clinton
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Roy_Drage:
I've rooted and flashed the rom on my phone.

I don't think I will receive any OTA updates because of this but even if I do I will decline to download it.

The roms being cooked on here will be better then any single update i'm asked to download.

I mean the devs are already ripping apart the Donut development code as we speak!!
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Wadajr:
You will not be recieving OTA updates on the rogers branded magic because it is not a google experience phone (it does not have the with google logo on the back). In your case you will have to decide which you need more, the sense ui, or ota updates. Remember, "with google" phones will most likely not be getting the sense update officially.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] ClintonH:
Also have to remember that any of the "with Google" phones have 192MB of RAM where the Rogers has 288MB of RAM. Which alows running the Sense UI properly. :)

Clinton
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] str4vag:
Ok. So OTA wont come to me.

But if i use the update link manually, will it make my phone go haywire?

will i lose root access?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] omerzzz:
I am also looking for this solution for OTA updates
[XPERIA X1 General] ruk_design:
Hi mates some days ago i bought the metal case for xperia from here

and having a weird signal issue. when i put xperia in that case. all signals disappears. and when i take xperia out it become normal. as in my area the signal strength is almost full. so can anyone tell me what part or xperia is catching signals. that when it touches that case and the case is eating all signals.?
[XPERIA X1 General] Steve_TLS:
There's alreasdy a thread with a discussion in it about metal cases interfering with the Xperia signal, I was reading about it the other day. It's probably in the accessories forum.
[XPERIA X1 General] slipudatung:
Just a question peeps,

I was wondering if anyone knows of a reg entry (or something) that I can change so that the screen doesnt illuminate when the keyboard is slid out?:confused: I have the thing in my pocket and with slightly tighter jeans the keyboard moves when I walk, often turning on the screen. Im starting to think this is having a sizable negative effect on the standby time (Screens at its brightest too b'coz I like it like that) and I am curious if I can change an entry/setting to avoid having to carry it in a pouch.:p

Thanks for any help guys/gals! :o

PS: I have tried searc but with no resolution :(
[XPERIA X1 General] mobilemodman:
u mite have some luck searching in jack's ROM threads (the older WM6.1 ROM threads maybe)

as he has disabled slide to wake up in his ROMs, im positive the REG keys were brought up in the thread somewhere,, alternatively you can PM jack himself.

hope that helps :)
[XPERIA X1 General] Der_Immitanz_konverter:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD]

"SlideWakeup"=dword:0
[XPERIA X1 General] bronx:
I would say that's fairly odd, as my xperia is turning itself on in the last phase of sliding, when left hand side edge passes windows key. what kind of moves do You do in Your trousers?? :D
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
There is a thread for it. Searvh the forum.
[XPERIA X1 General] slipudatung:
" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD]

"SlideWakeup"=dword:0 "

^Did the trick! Thanks heaps!

" I would say that's fairly odd, as my xperia is turning itself on in the last phase of sliding, when left hand side edge passes windows key. what kind of moves do You do in Your trousers?? "

^Very funny :P Mine turns on with about 1cm of movement. Didnt seem right to me either! At least the the registry entry adjustment option from Der_Immitanz_konverter did the trick so no more worries.

" There is a thread for it. Searvh the forum. "

^ I just tried the search again and got nothing. Maybe the words I am using are mentioned in the topic/body? Anyways, thanks for suggesting I use the search :cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] XGhozt:
I've had my tilt for over a year now and I'm very comfortable with it. I know the in's and out's and it's very tweaked out as it is. However, I'm ready to start messing with the ROM, but only to upgrade to Windows Mobile 6.5.

To my knowledge, 6.1 was officially released for the Tilt on the HTC Support website. But I also know there's a rom floating around here somewhere and I've seen testimonials and video's from others claiming the 6.5 rom works on the Tilt.

But I have no clue where to start, what ROM to use and what's the best method for backing up my data? I'm fairly sure it deletes everything, and that I need to take out my microsd card before doing so. Will various 3rd party apps stop working?

Would the xda community be so kind as to get me started? :o
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DaveTheTytnIIGuy:
This thread should answer most, if not all your questions. And this forum contains all Kaiser ROMS. My advice is to just try a lot of different ROMs until you find one you like.

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] XGhozt:
Thanks, that's what I was looking for.
[General Questions and Answers] nikkormark:
I have just installed windows mobile 6.5 on my o2 stealth.

I was in a shock when i discovered that the transcriber and the letter recognizer got lost...

now I am stuck with the Keyboard.... :mad:

How can I bring them back?
[XPERIA X1 General] randolph2000:
Im having problem in windows media player. Its slowing down after playing 2-3 hours of music only no background applications or process.

anyone here have the same problem? or anyone here have a best solution?
[XPERIA X1 General] madxtreme:
i got the same problem....

i listen over a Bluetooth stereo headset and sometimes i forgot to close the player and when i want to use my phone after a hour or later and the player is minimized in the background the phone is veeery slow...
[XPERIA X1 General] souljaboy:
wow i have that with coreplayer too , but difference is only 5-10 minutes sometimes , sometimes more
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Maybe it will help if everyone with that problem state their ROM.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jokefox:
i need multitouch for my phone and how to

instuctions to change boot screen logo

i have a htc dream (rogers canada)

also has anyone heard about a gold card

(sd card formatted to bring phones out of brick)

help would be great

and i already rooted my phone

a fun 5 minutes
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] h.nocturna:
Gold card doesn't work for the G1, its already been tried. =/ Also, multitouch is cooked into the custom ROMs, its hard to add by itself (I think, I'm not a developer).

Don't know about the boot screen logo tho, I'm sure there's already a thread about that somewhere...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alritewhadeva:
Yup like h.nocturna said multitouch is built into the kernel by ROM coooks and there are no custom ROMs for rogers g1s yet. To change the boot image look in the dream themes&wallpapers section. Should be a link inside one of the stickies.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jokefox:
boot image isent in that section
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B-man007:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3010171&postcount=1

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=467693&highlight=boot

both threads could easily be found found here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=519523

Hopefully mods will sticky it here
[Touch GSM General] jeremy89632:
This is a thread I started to simplify the process of what to get, like LCD, Digitizers, Mics, Stylus, Screen Protector and such.

This thread is more to the advance types of tools (Phone's Hardware) , not accessories.

Please include the website and price and the parts.

Thanks.
[Touch GSM General] jeremy89632:
HTC Touch Digitizer

$10.50 USD.

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.20650
[Touch GSM General] x86:
Awesome, thanks for the tip.

Does anyone know where to get metal opening tools? my plastic ones break too quick.
[Touch GSM General] FaBar:
uhmmmm...Metal is not a good idea...you know...metal harder than plastic ;)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alexdancer2:
Hey guys I really love the timer widget and I want to port it but don't know how is there a guide or instructions on how to port an app.t
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] h.nocturna:
... what timer widget? I only know of a Clock Widget... =/
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alritewhadeva:
Why not dl stopwatch app,? You want to port it over to hero or to cupcake from hero? Please more info!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alexdancer2:
Sorry not the widget just the timer app it self it has a very nice ui I want to take it from hero rom and put on ion rom
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lukekirstein:
I wish people would stop asking these questions.

Here's the deal. HTC Hero and any other Android phone that's not HTC are different in SO many ways. The framework might be Android, but there are so many different changes to it that, by the time you port anything over, you have to have that HTC framework installed. It's needed for anything from HTC to work.

We got lucky with a couple apps because developers work hard, but the fact of the matter is, porting something from HTC onto Android is a LOT of work. I mean a lot. Saving myself from frustration, porting over a timer app from HTC is not worth it unless someone had a lot of spare time on their hands, you know? There are quite a few timers in the market and they all work better than the Hero timer and don't require precious developer hours.

They might both be fruit and round-shaped, but apples and oranges are very different things :D.
[Touch HD General] hispeedworm:
this daylight saving in windows mobile is driving me nuts.there should be some way of permanently disabling it. or some rom cooker might be able to provide us with solution to turn it off for good. n im not talkin about editing manila file n fixing timezones. tht thing dont work for me. i want to turn it off completely. when daylight saving applies to my place i can manually add +1 to my clock . dont need windows deciding it for me.
[Touch HD General] tnyynt:
You can disable that with Schaps' Advanced Configuration Tools.
[Touch HD General] hispeedworm:
ok ikk try that. thanks. hope it works
[Touch HD General] tnyynt:
Thread moved to Blackstone general!
[G1 Android Development] wddglr:
sign files with a right click (Ubuntu) (Thanks Amon_RA)

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This little novice, 2-line script will help you sign update.zip files directly from any terminal window if you have the Android SDK set up on your machine. It might be pointless to some, but I thought it would be a nice idea to share.

Navigate to your Android SDK directory.

Create a folder and name it "sign".

This is where you will put the update.zip that you want to sign.​

Download the attached testsign.jar file [extract from zip] and move it to the new /sign directory in your Android SDK.

Navigate to your /tools directory and Right-Click > Create Document > Empty File.

Give it a name without extension.

example: sign​

Right-Click > Open with "Text Editor" and add the following:

Change the directories according to your setup.

Give it executable permissions with the terminal -

cd /YOUR-SDK-DIRECTORY/tools/
chmod a+x sign

Now you can simply drop the update.zip to your /sign directory and from the terminal type:

sign

and it will sign it without having to add the long command yourself. :)

Of course you can edit the script to fit your needs.

---- Optional ----

By making a link (right-click > Make Link) of your /sign directory and adding it to your Desktop, you can drag and drop update.zip directly to this link and sign. This save you some time in the signing process and you have access to it from your Desktop.

---- Optional ----

Thank you Cyanogen for this reply.
[G1 Android Development] njuncos:
mods, please sticky this as i'm sure many will find this very informative :cool:
[G1 Android Development] pagubg:
Perfect howto, just works like a charm :) Thanks to the author!
[G1 Android Development] alritewhadeva:
Thank you so much! :) Just started using ubuntu in a VM. Think you could write up a guide on setting up eclipse? That'd be absolutely super. Thanks again lol. Helped me sign files + set up the sdk. Great work.
[G1 Android Development] wddglr:
Well, setting up eclipse is fairly simple!

download Eclipse

unzip it any directory

/AndroidSDK/Eclipse | /home/wddglr/Apps/Eclipse​

set up the ADT following the information in this page: [http://developer.android.com/sdk/1.5_r3/installing.html]
[G1 Android Development] alritewhadeva:
Ah thank-you. I'll PM you if i run into any problems if thats okay. I'm a noob with ubuntu just set it up yesterday.
[G1 Android Development] marquel22:
i love you man j/k

THANK UUUUUUUUUU so much man
[G1 Android Development] soulehmoo:
if you use lots of different named update zips.

This is step 6

Just input the source file and the output and it does the rest.

Was useful for me as I sign different zips.

Use as you wish, thanks to wddglr.
[G1 Android Development] Binary100100:
I don't know why I can never get this to work.

This is exactly what I see when I ls /AndroidSDK/sign:

greg@Ubuntu:~$ ls /AndroidSDK/sign

testsign.jar update.zip
[G1 Android Development] joe v:
I was wondering if you were you able to solve this? Becouse I'm getting the same.. I'm thinking it has something to do with jave. But not sure what I need to do to fix it.. thanks for any info ....
[G1 Android Development] jamezelle:
yea me toooo:confused:

edit i figured it out

# Right-Click > Open with "Text Editor" and add the following:

Change the directories according to your setup.
Quote:
#!/bin/sh
java -classpath [B]/AndroidSDK[/B]/sign/testsign.jar testsign /[B]AndroidSDK[/B]/sign/update.zip /AndroidSDK/sign/update-signed.zip

yeah that is not where my tools are lol
[G1 Android Development] ccriffman:
I tried every way I could, and as stupid as I am, I could not get it to work!!!

ccriffman@ccriffman-laptop:~$ sign

bash: sign: command not found

ccriffman@ccriffman-laptop:~$ cd /home/ccriffman/android/tools

ccriffman@ccriffman-laptop:~/android/tools$ sign

bash: sign: command not found

ccriffman@ccriffman-laptop:~/android/tools$ cd /home/ccriffman/android

ccriffman@ccriffman-laptop:~/android$ sign

bash: sign: command not found

ccriffman@ccriffman-laptop:~/android$ cd /sign

bash: cd: /sign: No such file or directory

ccriffman@ccriffman-laptop:~/android$ cd /home/ccriffman/android/sign

bash: cd: /home/ccriffman/android/sign: No such file or directory

ccriffman@ccriffman-laptop:~/android$ cd /tools

bash: cd: /tools: No such file or directory

ccriffman@ccriffman-laptop:~/android$ cd tools

ccriffman@ccriffman-laptop:~/android/tools$ sign

bash: sign: command not found

ccriffman@ccriffman-laptop:~/android/tools$ cd sign

bash: cd: sign: Not a directory

ccriffman@ccriffman-laptop:~/android/tools$ sign

bash: sign: command not found

ccriffman@ccriffman-laptop:~/android/tools$

:confused:
[G1 Android Development] Binary100100:
Yeah, I got it to work. The problem was with my Java.
[G1 Android Development] pconwell:
testsign.jar in wrong spot

I got mine fixed. I had testsign.jar inside of the testsign folder inside the sign folder.

testsign.jar needs to be in the 'root' of the sign folder, or you need to modify the sign script to point to the correct location.
[G1 Android Development] freebirds87:
..... damnit.

I did the same thing

======EDIT=======

Now I am getting this error:

Help?
[G1 Android Development] freebirds87:
I guess it means I've failed???
[G1 Android Development] crackpot:
This script worked great, I really appreciate it. I did modify it a bit so that I don't have to necessarily sign update.zip every time. It is similar to the script posted on the first page, but rather than it asking for the input and output, you simply add parameters to the sign command. For example:

sign <input> <output>

See the code below, make sure you change the directory to where you have the sign folder located.

#!/bin/sh
java -classpath /opt/android/sign/testsign.jar testsign /opt/android/sign/$1 /opt/android/sign/$2
echo "Finished signing $1 as $2"

Hope this helps anyone.
[G1 Android Development] lbcoder:
An even better modification is to make it only take ONE parameter:

#!/bin/bash

mv $1 /tmp/$$-$1

java -classpath /opt/android/sign/testsign.jar testsign /tmp/$$-$1 $1

rm /tmp/$$-$1

Note that this form is also independent of the location of the archive to sign -- it is nicer to enter that particular directory and just run "sign file.zip".
[G1 Android Development] wedsxcrfv:
You should really mention that the tools directory has to be added to $PATH..

Not everyone has this, if you don't then simply typing sign will not work
[G1 Android Development] crackpot:
Well it should be correctly assumed that $PATH was correctly set when they installed the Android SDK, because if they followed the instructions provided by the SDK's documentation then it says to set the $PATH var in "~/.bashrc" or "~/.bash_profile".

From: http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing.html
[G1 Android Development] Lloir:
im getting this lovely error message :/ any ideas???

thanks

java.util.zip.ZipException: error in opening zip file

at java.util.zip.ZipFile.open(Native Method)

at java.util.zip.ZipFile.<init>(ZipFile.java:131)

at java.util.jar.JarFile.<init>(JarFile.java:150)

at java.util.jar.JarFile.<init>(JarFile.java:129)

at testsign.main(testsign.java:361)
[G1 Android Development] czerdrill:
How can I use this to sign apks??
[G1 Android Development] ceriko:
Can someone help me understand why I have this issue when trying to sign a ROM for Galaxy S ?

root@*******:/home/ceriko/android-sdk-linux_x86/tools# sign
[COLOR="Red"]Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: testsign[/COLOR]
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: testsign
at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:217)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:205)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:321)
at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:294)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:266)
Could not find the main class: testsign. Program will exit.

The testsign.jar file is in the /sign folder with the ROM...

This is my tools/sign file:

#!/bin/sh
java -classpath /home/ceriko/android-sdk-linux_x86/sign/testsign.jar testsign /home/ceriko/android-sdk-linux_x86/sign/cerikoROM.zip /home/ceriko/android-sdk-linux_x86/sign/cerikoROM_ok.zip

The file names match... why do I get an error ?

Thanks to the one who will help me.
[G1 Android Development] Shark_On_Land:
same here. idk why
[G1 Android Development] Shark_On_Land:
MODS! Please move this to general Android.
[G1 Android Development] Elloco305:
I get the same thing. -.- i have it in Playform tools folder with PATH set right and all. Why am i getting this error?

TIA