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[XPERIA X10 General] orelsi:
So, you are basically stating what I have repeated all along? What the hell :confused::confused::confused:? Make up your mind already jeez....

Just some clarification here:

Toy in the sense of useless, not in the sense of a game platform. Games without a hardware keyboard/D-Pad are simply atrocious.

For the 10000th time. I don't mind anyone using it, but compared to modern phones it is JUNK. That's why I say it when confronting false claims. It is true, whether you like it or not.

Same goes for WinMo. It has problems, but it is the best in versatility and productivity out there. You cannot deny it, if you claim to be objective.
[XPERIA X10 General] xperiance:
I still don't see why you feel the need to jump into every thread mentioning iPhone with an 'iPhail' comment, even if nothing positive or evangelical was said. Your actions don't match with your words. Especially your super-generalizing comments about iPhone users, not even restricting such comments to the fanboys who, as you say, "lie" about the device, you call iPhone users in general such insults.

Again, I see this as your obsession. I don't think you can let it go. It's not necessarily that you're a WinMo fanboy, you're simply an anti-Apple fanboy. Apple can do no good and you cannot give even a neutral comment about anything iPhone-related, nor will you let others post such a comment. It's all 100% useless garbage to you and anyone who thinks otherwise is a stupid follower who must be informed of their sub-human status by you.

EDIT 1:

So you are saying that it's not objective to say that the iPhone is simply "not functional" as you repeatedly do, or that it's ok for some to believe that the iPhone is the best, to them?

That has been my point all along. You, however, put yourself up as Mr. Objectivity and yet somehow spout non-objective items and call them fact.

EDIT 2:

"You don't have any arguments, so you are concentrating on me instead?"

I have never been here to defend the iPhone, but only to point out that you are absolutely not objective and many of your "facts" are opinions. So yeah, of course I'm concentrating on you. It's very annoying (and sad) to see you jumping in every conversation where anyone simply mentions iPhone with some comment about how anyone who uses it is a worthless sheep and that it's an outdated non-functional piece of junk - and proclaim that as undeniable fact. Hah.
[XPERIA X10 General] poetryrocksalot:
lol the last time we had an android device we talked about how much the iPhone sucked, and now we're doing it again.

Anyway, the 4 inches so far has got be stirred up. This probably is going to over kill the TG01.
[XPERIA X10 General] WhyBe:
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[XPERIA X10 General] orelsi:
What a load of nonsense. Double faced much?

"I have never been here to defend the iPhone" - Yeah, I can tell...........

I have answered everything you said here. I have answered it repeatedly. If you have nothing new to add, then don't make fun of your lack of cognitive abilities anymore.
[XPERIA X10 General] orelsi:
I want a 4 inch screen WinMo Xperia with a keyboard so much :(. I'm starting to wonder if a 4 inch screen can compensate for the lack of a keyboard and a D-Pad.

I lol'ed.
[XPERIA X10 General] nevermind:
makes me always wonder why iPhone causes so much hate and why there is too much feeling about it. Is it just the phone or the users?

And why one device X is compared with Y on the HW or usability level? As far as I know, iPhone is iPhone, XYZ device is XYZ device. And this is xda for christ sake.

Everything (every phone) has it's users, and they are using it for certain reason. It's wasting of time to try to make them believe that something else is better or worse. Everybody should use, what (s)he likes and wants..

So let's get back to the topic ;)

Are there any leaked pics? I don't want to be the first one...
[XPERIA X10 General] bronx:
lol... I'm glad that I am not the only one who can see this. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] orelsi:
Exactly what I was saying all along. It is the users btw lol.

Feel free to post anything you have ;).
[XPERIA X10 General] xperiance:
Sounds like you have some? It's ok, go ahead and be the first!
[XPERIA X10 General] WhyBe:
What's funny is that my first post (which unintentionally derailed the topic) was NOT meant to be an "iPhone vs the world debate". It didn't even mention iPhone. I was just stating what I think the next "great" phone is going to have to bring to the table to achieve massive market success. The X2 and X3 don't seem to be it.
[XPERIA X10 General] xperiance:
Yeah, I noticed that after the first reply, you hadn't even said "iPhone" and he jumped on it anyway.

Although, I disagree that X2 or X3 could be the next great phone. As long as SE doesn't do what they normally do and release them after they've already been surpassed on the market, these could be leaders.
[XPERIA X10 General] poetryrocksalot:
If they don't do that, I will start my own company THAT DOES THE RIGHT THINGS.
[XPERIA X10 General] orelsi:
If by "he" you mean yourself then we are in agreement.
[XPERIA X10 General] orelsi:
I'll buy it :D! What will be the name lol?
[XPERIA X10 General] nevermind:
WhyBe+xperiance: well you never make a phone, which will be loved by everyone. Samsung cannot make it, Nokia cannot make it, HTC cannot make it, SE cannot make it, Apple cannot make it. There will be always just a group of people who will like and dislike. You may be in one of those group, but that's all. If you are in the one who dislikes, you'll opinion will be likely pessimistic. Anyway, I'm almost sure (of course I don't know 100%) that leaders of SE know that they wont make such phone and also don't plan that (just what I think).

OK I see not many pics were leaked...
[XPERIA X10 General] orelsi:
Yes....................
[XPERIA X10 General] xperiance:
More "factual objectivity"?

Post # 39:

Post # 40:
[XPERIA X10 General] WhyBe:
Understood, but let's not act like company X isn't doing better than company Y. Some companies are hitting most of the right buttons where as others are chewing their nails trying to figure out what to do next. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] orelsi:
INDEED!!!! Thanks for once again failing in reading and comprehension....

Go back and read the last couple of post....
[XPERIA X10 General] WhyBe:
Tell me that isn't really you in the avatar?
[XPERIA X10 General] xperiance:
What are you talking about?

WhyBe: What's funny is that my first post (which unintentionally derailed the topic) was NOT meant to be an "iPhone vs the world debate". It didn't even mention iPhone.

me: Yeah, I noticed that after the first reply, you hadn't even said "iPhone" and he jumped on it anyway. (NOTE: 'he' meaning orelsi, obviously)

orelsi: If by "he" you mean yourself then we are in agreement.

me: *points out original posts referred to, WhyBe not saying iPhone and orelsi still jumping in with 'Apple troll'*

orelsi: Go back and read the last couple of post

everyone: *heads explode*
[XPERIA X10 General] bronx:
that's f...in' hilarious. :D just leave it xperiance. this guy is too arrogant to even try to talk to him.
[XPERIA X10 General] orelsi:
Of course it is. Why?

The point (that you missed as usual) is that we had a civil discussion before you barged in with you malice.

Anyways, I usually try to avoid such "nerdy nitpicking" in "who said what", but you display such failure in comprehension and such desire for personal attacks (which will not make the iPhail magically appear as a great device btw) that I feel compelled to explain it to you for the last time.

He said "iPhone" right after my first reply. So, you FAIL there.

If you by any chance mean his first reply - IT WAS IMPLIED. You do know what "implied" means, right? Learn to use your brain please.

Feel free to tell me which brand of devices out there has an "app store"? Is it Nokia? Or maybe SE? It's crApple. Plus, he never denied it. Again FAIL on your part.

"heads explode" INDEED...
[XPERIA X10 General] WhyBe:
I intentionally didn't mention Apple or iPhone in my first post. Of course the examples I gave could be applied to iPhone, but, generically to consumers, these things are what makes a phone more valuable to them. This is why other companies are working on app stores of their own. Certainly Microsoft is planning some sort of Music/Zune/Windows Mobile download service if they're smart. Yes, Apple has already done this and wildly succeeded...let's give credit where credit is due. When a new phone hits the market, it's going to be compared to the iPhone and it's ecosystem, whether you like iPhone or not.
[XPERIA X10 General] nevermind:
here we go again..
[XPERIA X10 General] xperiance:
LOL malice? Look at the posts. You commented about the iPhone usage outside the US being "microscopic" and I replied with links and quotes of phone sales and usage measurements. Such horrible malice on my part! It went from there with your rationalizations on the data.

"If by chance..."? I quoted the exact posts we were talking about! His first reply/question was exactly what we were talking about, not after your reply. It doesn't matter that's what he implied, your response is the issue.

Why did you feel such a need to jump in and call out "APPLE TROLL!!!1!" as quickly as you possibly could move your fingers? Obsession. You could have just let it go, he simply asked a question.

I hardly think that bursting in with "WTF? Apple troll" is "civil discussion" - hilarious.
[XPERIA X10 General] xperiance:
So, how's the weather in Prague?
[XPERIA X10 General] poetryrocksalot:
I guess you don't understand how implications work. If it is implied, than it is part of the discussion.
[XPERIA X10 General] orelsi:
Apple didn't invent online sells of apps. Other companies have not been so successful, because other phones' users aren't dumb. That only strengthens my case.

Also, they are compared to other phones only in the US. Worldwide iPhail is not popular.

That is hardly the point though. You should have said it right away not 50+ posts after. Please be a man and admit it. Don't try to backtrack.
[XPERIA X10 General] emuneee:
I just LMAO. Please take this debate to PM. :p
[XPERIA X10 General] orelsi:
Don't blame me for your ill intentions, ok?

I was merely insuring myself, bcause I know how your brain works.

"it doesn't matter what he implied" - ROFL :D:D:D Do you have any idea how discussions function?

It does matter big time.

I couldn't have let it go, because it could have been the usual apple troll attack. That's why I had to check. That's why there is a question mark right there.

I hardly think one single reply qualifies as a discussion, don't you think? Try to be more precise. I was referring to the numerous posts before you barged in with your anger and trolling.

Anyways, you do not deserve the attention or let alone me explaining myself and my actions to you, but I cannot let go when there is injustice going on. Bad for you, I guess...

EDIT: poetryrocksalot dissected the post and shut your mouth with irrefutable evidence. There is nothing for me to add.
[XPERIA X10 General] poetryrocksalot:
I find it ridiculous how android threads on a forum about a Windows Mobile phone always involve a debate about the Mobile Mac OS.
[XPERIA X10 General] orelsi:
Hahahah :D.

Mobile OSs Sinergy int he future? :eek:
[XPERIA X10 General] xperiance:
Several consecutive posts of links and data on numbers of phone sales and usage stats in response to a post about the iPhone being "microscopic", showing that it's not that far off worldwide from WM constitutes "barging in with anger and trolling"? Facts and data in response to a comment are not malice. It's simply true that the iPhone is gaining market share and is not that far off from WM at this point. Hence, if the iPhone is 'microscopic', so is WM, only slightly less so.

This is becoming a meta-discussion. Your obsession remains.

So the only reason for any iPhone to have ever sold is because a dumb person bought it? More objective fact?

I posted several links showing just what market share the iPhone had in comparison with the others. It's not as popular worldwide yet, no, but it's not that far off from WM, which is dwarfed by Symbian and RIM.
[XPERIA X10 General] orelsi:
Yawn.....

Several posts you say? What about the rest?

Missing the point as usual and nitpicking? C'mon, you can do better than that.
[XPERIA X10 General] doministry:
Guys please.....
[XPERIA X10 General] poetryrocksalot:
The fact that RIM is dominating right now shows me that something is wrong with the consumers.
[XPERIA X10 General] WhyBe:
---delete--- this thread is moving too fast :)
[XPERIA X10 General] orelsi:
I feel bad for derailing the thread :(.

LOL. Tell me about it.

Are there so many businessmen out there? Aren't there any other business oriented devices? It's kinda weird.
[XPERIA X10 General] xperiance:
"the rest" was all in response to your 'explanation' of the data that: "WinMo has small percentage, because it is made for tech savvy people and for cutting edge tech devices. [The iPhone] has a smaller percentage, because not everyone is a naive sheep following the herd" (The civility and objective factuality is overwhelming)
[XPERIA X10 General] xperiance:
It seems to work for those who use it, so what's "wrong" with them?
[XPERIA X10 General] poetryrocksalot:
But black berry sucks! Have you seen the unhappy reviews of the Touch OS? What about the old OS? SUCK SUCK SUCK.
[XPERIA X10 General] orelsi:
Of course it is.... lol..........

The OS is crap. Have you seen the reviews of the Storm. Lmfao!
[XPERIA X10 General] brangalm:
Wow this thread fails hard.

I had read up to page 5 a couple of days ago, in excitement of the X3.

I return today to see up to page 13, and I was so excited, hoping for new info and images.

But no, look what I get. Eight (!) pages of useless arguments of the iPhone vs. other phones.

WHO GIVES A **** WHAT OTHER PEOPLE USE AND LIKE?! Just use and like what you want, and that's it. If other people want to be "sheep", let them be!

Besides, just like how you need sadness to appreciate happiness, you need the "sheep" in order for there to be the "smart" people :D

Anyways, any news on the X3? This device looks freakin' sexy, especially with Android 2.0 :)
[XPERIA X10 General] poetryrocksalot:
At first I didn't give a crap until I saw that it had a 4 inch screen. So yeah now it's very very sexy.
[XPERIA X10 General] orelsi:
I feel your pain man.

Nothing new so far.
[XPERIA X10 General] JRK-Scope:
I think its because many companies buy Blackberry Exchange servers which is inferior to Microsoft Exchange server but especially since the Blackberries of old were straightforward and simple push email devices. Winmo devices are more complicated and expensive. And yes the Storm is HORRIBLE. However, the upcoming BB Onyx with optical trackpad seems nice enough though I have no reason to get a BB. BB messaging? Just use MSN or something equivalent (Skype for me).
[XPERIA X10 General] l337h1um:
No keyboard.

Fail.
[XPERIA X10 General] poetryrocksalot:
Apple Whore.. Obviously
[XPERIA X10 General] ratchetnclank:
Since when did apple phones have keyboards?

Seriously your jumping the gun.
[XPERIA X10 General] l337h1um:
Erm.... what?
[XPERIA X10 General] rogatsby:
Guys, you can't have a rational discussion with this Orelsi guy. He is too arrogant and narrow minded. It seems he has nightmares about the iPhone because a lot of people love it so much. Listen, I prefer Winmo as well, but I can totally understand why many people love the iPhone. It works well out of the box, is very stylish, and is great at various things. 90% of Orelsi's posts contain the words "fail" or "iPhail". The greatest failure seems to have been the educational system in Orelsi's life. It's obvious that system has completely failed him.

I won't even bother replying to what I know will come next.
[XPERIA X10 General] killerskincanoe:
so i posted on SEUSA's facebook page asking why there was no official annoucement about the X3 yet expansys had it up for pre-order.... that was two days ago.. they normally get back to me.. i.e. they respond to my discussion threads and they comment back on my comments ... interesting? doubtful... just thought i'd share...

btw... it does seem that SEUSA is out there asking questions to consumers about things they'd like to see on new and as they put it "unannouced" devices.. lol... Currently *last i checked* they only had a meseley 360 something fan base on facebook... imagine what would happen if we got EVERYONE w/ facebook to be an active fan on there and really start giving them ideas... that'd be cool
[XPERIA X10 General] Xdenwarrior:
So, yeah, did anyone buy Xperia X3 yet? If so, post your impressions?....

This phone has been on sale for the last couple of days at Popular Electronics for 799 USD. So, I'm quite torn between getting Xperia X3 or the i8910 HD (king of smartphones, at least hardware-wise).

There also isn't much info listed about this phone (Xperia X3)... I mean like whats the CPU (doubt its Snapdragon, or even has OLED - not very Sony style); so would like to know more info if I end up getting it. Nonetheless, I send Popular Electronics an email regarding RAM, ROM, CPU, etc... but they haven't replied :( :( yet. The worst thing, unlike other large online dealers, their phone line is down :mad:
[XPERIA X10 General] killerskincanoe:
it's not even been offically announced by SE.. doubtful they'll be selling anything at all ... but a link would be nice so we could see what ur talking about.. thx
[XPERIA X10 General] Mikulec:
OMG, 7 pages of bull**** and rubbish. Guys, go ahead and start your own thread where u can discuss your feelings. This is thread about xperia 3.

Can some mod please delete the last 7 pages?
[XPERIA X10 General] Xdenwarrior:
oops, srr, killerskin. I hardly ever go on this website lately, so i think i forgot how to do simple things like linking pages LOL LOL......

Anyways, here is where u can buy this Xperia X3 http://www.popularelect.com/product_info.php?products_id=1387

Note: its duel band only (as its European version), so wouldn't work on US AT&T 3G!!!

So, yeah, GO BUY QUICKLY before it sells out LOL!!!!!
[XPERIA X10 General] killerskincanoe:
if you try and buy it and check your cart you get this msg below the item

"Products marked with *** dont exist in desired quantity in our stock.

You can buy them anyway and check the quantity we have in stock for immediate deliver in the checkout process."

and it's def got *** after it... but... now that's more than one retailer who has a page up for the x3... STILL NOTHING FOR THE X2 tho :(
[XPERIA X10 General] brangalm:
Wow, someone should try the live chat thing and see what the staff say about this phone. Is it actually in stock? LOL

Damnit, still no details about CPU, RAM, storage, etc.

Looks like we're getting closer and closer to an official announcement :)

But wow, $800... I'm going to be so bankrupt after this. Oh well, since it has a (seemingly) decent camera, I'll just forgo buying a P&S and just consider this my camera. Makes it seem not as bad :D

Oh and another thing: damnit they better have a version with North American UMTS 850 and 1900, or else somebody gonna get hurt reeeeeeeal baaaaad....
[XPERIA X10 General] killerskincanoe:
i called their illinois location and left a message abt the x3 we'll see if i get a call back tommorow!
[XPERIA X10 General] orelsi:
Afraid?
[XPERIA X10 General] Xdenwarrior:
oh k thankx for pointing that out kilerskin. I never tried adding to cart the item. (i was at first shocked thinking that it was already available that early LOL :D) But u right, i guess its just a sort of pre-order for now on them as well, and I'm guessing pricing is also subject to change.

But brangalm don't expect then Xperia X3 anytime soon, or even the announcement really. Popular Electronics added the Xperia right after Xpensys put it on pre-order, and just copied over all the same info. Other online retailers have no clue about this phone!!!

Now the reason why this phone won't be coming out soon is cause i read that current Google Android cupcake (1.5) doesn't support those high resolutions (800 times 400 pixels), and none of the current Google Android devices have a larger than 3.2 inch screens (i think). That makes me believe that those early rumors about X3 running Donut (2.0) are true, but Donut Android isn't coming out officially till at least sometime late Fall (November anyone). Phones will follow after.

So, I'll say the X3 as well as X2 won't be out till February 2010!!! :(

(but would be great to hear what news u'll get tomorrow, killerskin)
[XPERIA X10 General] WhyBe:
Why would an Xperia X2 and X3 be released at the same time? It doesn't make any marketing sense. I could understand if they were different product lines.

Is this their real name (at least the "X3")? I would expect any Xperia X-series to be released at least a year apart.
[XPERIA X10 General] orelsi:
It makes sense if you are catering to different target groups. The WinMo crowd will not buy the Android device and vice versa. If they release both devices simultaneously there will be no *****ing from either group of being ignored and such.
[XPERIA X10 General] gundamboy:
can't wait to see this baby in action.
[XPERIA X10 General] Ganondolf:
i do think its weird that they are calling it a x3 as that would make people think its the next model after the x2, reducing sales of the x2.
[XPERIA X10 General] orelsi:
Agreed. Depends how good SE is at marketing, if they decide to do it that way.
[XPERIA X10 General] mallman:
the preorder was removed from expansys site so perhaps that means specs are changing? i wrote sony and posed the 3g band question for North America. Really just interesting that the preorder from expansys was removed though. If sony responds to my query i will post it here.
[XPERIA X10 General] WhyBe:
^^^ That's "techie" logic, though.

Normal consumers will see X3 as the newer better model, regardless of what's actually going on inside the devices. SE marketing seriously sucked for the X1 (WTF was Johnny X?). They need to deliver something truly unique and better, not just more useless megapixels. I saw the UI video on USEB and it looks really slick, but doesn't really give a feel for the entire phone...just some eye candy. I hope they release these things with more optimized for the screen software than they did with the X1.
[XPERIA X10 General] mallman:
Sony Replied with:

Dear Michael,

Thank you for contacting Sony Ericsson Online Support.

In regards to your question, Sony Ericsson cannot speculate or disclose any information about a product or service that has no official accountment. If a product or service is released Sony Ericsson will provide all the details and specifications.

As part of Sony Ericsson's commitment to excellent customer service, we offer a wide variety of mobile products to suit your lifestyle. If you require more information, or have any other questions, please visit our website at http://www.sonyericsson.com or call us at 1-866-766-9374.

Best regards,

Louis

Your Sony Ericsson Online Support Representative

Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications
[XPERIA X10 General] orelsi:
Hahahahah. That guy was hilarious and sucked big time.

SE needs to step up itsr game with some aggressive marketing.

Ha! Is anyone surprised?
[XPERIA X10 General] xperiance:
Well, supposedly the Rachael is actually the X5 and that kiki is the X3...

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Sony-Ericsson-to-Launch-XPERIA-X2-X3-and-X5-on-July-17-116787.shtml
[XPERIA X10 General] killerskincanoe:
RIGHT! cuz softpedia has been such an excellent and reliable source! bah!
[XPERIA X10 General] killerskincanoe:
wow just got off the phone with popular electronics...

he doesn't have the x3 in stock! BUT! he said it will be available in september or december!!!

DON'T KNOW HOW RELIABLE THIS INFO IS! but... certainly keps ya on your toes!

i'm staring to save now! lol
[XPERIA X10 General] xperiance:
Seems a little unlikely that a retailer would have a phone in stock when it hasn't even been introduced or announced by the manufacturer.
[XPERIA X10 General] killerskincanoe:
glad u can repeat what i said three pages back.. nice
[XPERIA X10 General] orelsi:
lolz.,....,.,,.,.,.,....