yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thehustler:
A small doubt for Dutty. Are the D3D drivers built in to your Win6.5 R9 package. I have been wodering whether to install them or not. Just finish flashing and setting up my phone. Don't want to flash again if anything goes wrong.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] aussiebum:
Hmm, has anyone compared the battery life with the R9 Turbo release compared to the WM 6.1 Dutty XT series releases? I moved up from Dutty 3.0 XT (WM 6.1) => R9 Turbo (WM 6.5) this weekend and since have noticed that while everything is definitely snappier and more responsive, it's also eating up battery noticably faster (with almost the SAME apps installed. Yes, that includes S2U2 for those wondering, but running with the Suspend Power option on).

The only extra app I installed compared to my previous build is ChangeScreen, but surely that can't be the source of battery drain right?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mnet:
I am also noticing lower battery life compared to dutty's 6.1 v4.1. This version seems to be using more battery during standby.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Psy-Blade:
As far as I know changescreen doesn't run in the background, it just alters some registry entries and exits? I may be wrong though. Either way I used to use changescreen on 6.1 with no big battery drainage.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
- You can set the timeout under Power settings

- As I explained in my previous post, search this thread for the Autolock fix. This is what puts the lock at the bottom.

- My WM Contact scroll bar is the same. It looks like a mix of normal scrollbar as well as the rollodex type alphabetical listing.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Have you got the same settings eg beam off or disconnect data etc. These also have an impact on battery consumption as does network settings.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] CaponiND:
Exactly. I've also noticed, that if you use your device intensively, then it is almost no difference, but in standby Win6.5 versions are more power hungry than 6.1 :-)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] goneraz:
Hi, i am very new to scene. If someone could be kind enough to point me the the correct direction. See i have just installed Dutty's r9 and i am loving every second of it. Being new i didnt realise that i have to install the cab. Is it possible to install the cab without having to reflash my rom?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] adrianmak:
many thanks!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gordonzhao:
well im pretty sure i dont have any conflicting apps installed, because i tried it right after flashing, but i think you maybe misunderstanding what i mean, so theres two interfaces in R9, i think it started somewhere around R5? maybe earlier

interface 1 is original threaded windows mobile interface (same as 6.1) where its just the text and white background with left softkey as "send" and right as "menu"

interface 2 is the integrated one from TF3D, where it gives the fancy appearance, but threaded messages still, and the right side next to the "typing" field is the "send" button, this can be opened by going to the SMS tab in TF3D and clicking the message from there, (not by all messages, which opens up WinMo interface)

I am able to get the signature in interface 1 (WinMo) no problems, but with the TF3D interface it is just a blank message field and no signature at the bottom, if you would like try clicking on a text from the TF3D interface and I think you will see the same results as i describe.

another "bug" which I have came across is installing the google mobile app, which can be found here, (http://www.google.com/mobile/#utm_source=us-et-more&utm_medium=et&utm_campaign=mobile)

after installing the app, the only visible area is the top menu, (its about the size of the "curtain") and this issue could be related to the ROM or possibly to google's build, which one way or another is a glitch of some sort.

and as far as the mobile wi-fi router, props, props, props, its a really useful tool, but at the moment i have no use for it, but will in the future im sure of it =]
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Yes mate, no need to reflash. To install any .cab file you need to get the file unto your device. To do this you will need to connect your device to your pc using usb cable and then use activesync on your pc. Once sync'ed open file explorer on pc and move files across to phone. Once you have .cab files on device open up file explorer on your HD, locate .cab files and click on them to install
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] goneraz:
Thanks mate... gonna try it now..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Psy-Blade:
A little off topic here... Somebody mentioned turning beam off saves power? I know beam accepts incoming files automatically, does this mean with beam on bluetooth is running constantly?

Also the option has gone from the connection screen and has to be found under the settings > connections> window. Can it be re-added to the quick connection menu?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gordonzhao:
I prefer to bypass activesync myself, and just connect as a "flashdrive," truthfully i dont even bother using activesync for anything, the only account i have through activesync, is to my google sync, for contacts and calendar, as push gmail is not available yet XD

there is a cab in dutty's repository for this, it will change the "mobile wi-fi router" to beam in the connections menu (tf3d interface)

but yes leaving beam on will drain more power (from my knowledge) i have edge connected 24/7 as well as my gmail to sync every 2 hours and my hotmail (push enabled) and google sync, so all that plus text plus phone calls and playing around, my battery wont last that long, so disabling beam conserves a bit of power i guess, but usually before i head out of the house i get a full charge, and while in the car, but doesnt last me that long still i would say with a couple of calls, internet, sms, email, syncs, etc, my battery will last me about <12 hours?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] c.melachrinos:
background change

Hi guys,

just a short question. I would like to have the same background in the win mobile 6.5 menu like i have in Manila. How can i set this? I know where to go to change the background of manila but where can i change the background in the 6.5 menu?

Thanks in advance.

And btw, the Dutty's win Mobile R9 ROM is super cool. Finally i am quite satisfied with my Touch HD. Tried some other ROM's but in Win Mobile 6.1 version. 6.5 is much better.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Psy-Blade:
Thanks for the reply Fallen Spartan. I Guess I will keep beam off. I use mine pretty much the same as you, but I have gmail set to 5 minutes. I think I can usually get a good day out of it? You must be sending a lot of texts :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gordonzhao:
go to start>settings>today and at the bottome click "use this picture as the background" and browse for picture

or

use file explorer and find the picture, then right click and "set as today background'

it doesnt really matter who you thank, lol but it was me, not fallen spartan who wrote, that as im sure he would have known as well =X but i would say having gmail set to 5 min send/receive intervals would drain the hell out of your battery, hypothetically i would think your battery would be drained within a couple of hours......how do you last a day?!! if you would like you can do as i do, forward all my gmail to my hotmail account, and just use push, as it doesnt sync unless the exchange server pushes email to your phone, and if you need to reply, then manually hit send/receive in gmail account, its a bit of a hassle, but works for me for now, until google sets gmail up with a universal push server and not only for android and blackberries (which is actually through blackberries own servers (BES)) >.<
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ozmoran:
Ahhhh yes I see what you mean

I have been in the habit of reading the sms on TF3D screen and if I want to respond I select menu/reply so have not noticed the other screen not having signature :eek:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Psy-Blade:
Haha sorry gordonzhao, I'm remoting home and the screen is a bit choppy when scrolling.

I've always had Gmail setup to 5 minutes, as does my cousin. I'd say if I were to leave it (not call or send any texts) I could get 20 hours or so :|. Tell you what I'll get back to you in 3 hours.... It's at 100% now.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gordonzhao:
ahh, never thought about that xP but you're right! but then again, you dont get the threaded history, which defeats the purpose, but i guess it beats me having to hit the "all messages" at the bottom then clicking the message thread i want, or having to hit start>text>thread

but if dutty could look into this for R10 it would be much appreciated =]

but im curious to whether this is a ROM cooking bug, or a manila bug itself? i dont follow the changes, but in manila v2.1 (not WinMo interface) is this how the stock interface with SMS is as well? if anyone can understand that, hard to describe without actually seeing it =X
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Yes, this is also an option, but as goneraz was new to scene I thought he would most likely go down activesync route, but who knows.

Correct, leaving beam will drain power, but also beam needs to be activated for bluetooth to function properly as well
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gordonzhao:
ic, lol but wouldnt it just be more convenient avoiding RMD and going straight to xda, through opera? in no way am i trying to put you down =X

its gordon btw, just figured id use my full name as my xda sn, as to gordon probably has more than likely been taken =P

come to think of it i dont think i really use bt anymore, i will use it here and there to send files from my computer to cell, but its such a hassle having to turn on my laptop's bt and cell's and then beam....and i dont really talk via my bt headset, so beam is kind of off anyways, o well, theres times for it though, one of those techs to have around but not used as often
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Psy-Blade:
Hmm related to this... I've noticed if you click the text on the sms tab it goes into manila to reply. If you click menu > reply on the sms tab you get WM interface. If you click the new text icon on favourite people, it goes to the wm interface.

I like how you can use wm AND manila from the sms tab, it lets you choose, but since the button on favourites is part of manila it might look better if it links to manila's sms interface.

Can this be standardised? It would prevent having to always use a different interface.

Just a suggestion :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gordonzhao:
well having it the way it is right now is good in a sense, obviously not for "fancy" display purposes, but with the manila interface, i havent seen how you would start a new message because you have to enter the recipient, and at the moment only the WinMo interface has the signature enabled, not the manila

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and if you want to keep in the manila interface, you can do so, after sending a text and getting a reply, just click on the actual text in manila and it will open the manila interface for you to reply with, but only if you're not using a signature will you like this, I wouldn't mind it either, but as I like to use a signature, its a different story

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I just thought of something else, as far as "toms sms" app, even with the "sms notifciation sent" clicked, I dont see how it shows the notification that the sms has been sent, normally i look at the WinMo interface and when its not bold any more i figured its has sent, but is this a bug or how does it show that the sms has been sent? (sorry repeated myself i think, getting sleepy, its 4.17 am here)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] c.melachrinos:
@ Gordonzhao

I allready tried both of the possibilities which you told me but the standard background is layed over the background which i want to set. What i am trying to say is that the standard background is always on top of the background which i am setting.

Realy strange. How i know its on top is that i can see a part of the picture i set for a background on top, where the windows logo and the the other logos are for network signal and so on. Would be nice if you could help me to find a way out.

Will there be a clean version soon?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gordonzhao:
i think its a glitch, but reset, and you should see the picture you want in the start menu's background

@Fallen Spartan

hey do you mind trying out the google mobile app to verify for me? just to make sure its not only on mine, i think i tried it previously on R6 in june and same results, but if you have some time I would really appreciate it =] thanks in advance! cheers!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Psy-Blade:
Gordonzhao,

I've left my phone alone for a while to check battery usage. I sent a test email however my phone isn't waking up to receive it. any ideas? I've set the wake up for sms option in TweakHD and sms and mms works fine when the device is in standby.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gordonzhao:
I dont use tweakHD, but has this just started happening in R9? and it was working in previous versions? and just so we're on the same page, by wake up you're referring to the screen turning on correct??

but did you get the email itself? just the screen didnt wake when you did? you got the ring and all right? possibly a reset, and try it again? sometimes theres minor glitches that no one can really fix, its for example, i have my work schedule and other things set on my phone to remind myself, i always get the reminder an hour before i start (as I've set it) but sometimes i dont get the actual reminder at the start time, sometimes i do (and when i do, for both instances, the screen will wake for reminders) i dont like to have the screen wake on emails and texts as its always in my pocket and i dont want the screen pressed because of this, which is why this is a big change from my herald back then =]
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] c.melachrinos:
Thanks @ gordonzhao!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gordonzhao:
I'm assuming it worked for you, you're welcome! a little trial and error goes along way, as I figured that out myself! But I dont mind helping =] cheers!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
I don't think so. I have my Gmail set to 15 min and 2 other accounts set to 60 min and with normal use I get 50-60% left by the end of the day. With small variations it's been like that for almost every Dutty ROM I've used. Recently I have enabled 3G and this has had an effect on my battery life, now I get a little under 50% left by the end of the day.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Whats your issue with Google Mobile App?

I currently have it installed and have used it briefly and didn't notice any issues. If you describe your issue I shall test for you
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Psy-Blade:
There seems to be no activity when it is in standby. Even if I delete a few mails and then put it in standby it doesn't get round to syncing with the server. Or recieving any new mail. Will try a soft reset.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gordonzhao:
thats interesting, but I'm also going to make the assumption you use the phone/internet/sms and apps regularly as well? it might just be me lol, off the top of my head i would say total time on the is 20mins/hour of actual usage on the phone so it might also be that, i pretty much cant keep my hands off my phone though... =( good or bad, its in the eye of the beholder

well my experience is that after opening the google mobile app, under the "start icon and connection banner" is the google app itself, about the same size it shows ["g" (search field) "gmail icon" "maps icon" "black and white youtube icon"] and below that is the TF3D interface, and the softkeys are "seach and options" but below that banner I would assume there is suppose to be more. and if i click below it the banner where i can see the TF3D it exits the program and goes back to TF3D

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ill get spb screenshot back on and get upload a screenshot so you can better understand what i mean, give me a couple of minutes

it may also not be your phone itself, as i have been having some troubles with sync with the gmail server recently, i think their imap servers are a bit on the down side right now, thats why i enjoy the hotmail back up since all my gmail is forwarded to it =]
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bairro:
I dont have the TOM extended menu!!

How can activate program tabs?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gordonzhao:
if you read the first page, it would have solved your problem and saved a post, pal, its in duttys repository files
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Tom Extended menu is avilable in Throys add-on cabs

Try a little searching before posting please in future
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
This is a problem I've been dealing with for some time including WM 6.1 ROMs. The device does wake up if an SMS comes but for emails you only get the notification after you wake up the HD manually.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gordonzhao:
well i dont have it set on wake up for either as i described my "dilemma" with that, but if you dont get email until you manually wake the HD then it probably has to do with your internet connection where when you put it in standby it will pause the internet connection which is probably why you're getting such good battery life.....whereas mine its on even in standby

but

@fallen spartan

here is the screen,

under the "start" banner is the google app, which only the app being the same size as the banner, and the bottom shows the soft keys, but center area is the TF3D which i dont think the program was intended to run like this
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
This is also what I see when google app is loaded. However my bottom left softkey is not 'search', but 'history'. However if I click on soft key 'history' the search button reappears. A little annoying, but no biggy
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gordonzhao:
so the app on your HD looks like how mine is then? except yours has an extra bug compared to mine =X lol, but i really dont think this is how the program was meant to run, there is has to be something from the top of the "g search" to the bottom of the soft keys....

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but yes its not a big deal, but its pretty much defeats the purpose of the app, cant really use it, because im sure theres suppose to be more there than just the little banner, if it was just that i would just use opera and open google.....

another thing is i hope the purpose of the app is to integrate gmail and google maps so i can see it straight from there, because what would be the point of having the app if its just shortcuts to open up a browser?!! and do you know what the "refresh" like logo over the google maps means?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
I've attached screenshot to previous post. I'm not sure anything is missing to be honest, but I'll check and post back
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sexpest:
Emails.

I get a notification if my phones in standby. It says "you have email" I get it out of my pocket and it displays on the lock screen. Under Winmo sounds and notifications under email, i only have play sound checked, nothing else and it works fine.

Also has anyone else noticed, or am i abit late. In previous dutty releases, whilst in opera via the internet tab. If i want to minimise i press the X in the right upper corner, and then check in task manager and its still running. Now i press X and in task manager its not shown as running. But when i press the globe on the internet tab it goes to where i left off. Strange.

Not really a problem just thought id mention.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gordonzhao:
yes ive noticed that too, but i dont think its always, if i remember correctly, but it may just have been added to the "exclusive" list permanently, which isnt a good thing, as it means if you just hit "x" and its not closed but you forget and its using up memory which in turn is using up battery power, possibly a glitch, but this i think just started in R9

@fallen spartan

if so then google has disappointed me in making a completely useless app....

oh hey noticed you have the tabs background as transparent, looks nice =] is it from a cab similar to the no top curtain cab that dutty has in his repository files?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
I use these ones. Appear to work on all roms I've used to date.

On the google app - Having looked at google website there isn't a great deal on screenshots so hard to tell, but after using app for a while it would appear that app isn't working properly or it hasn't been created very well.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gordonzhao:
thanks for the cabs!

as far as the google app, i guess we'll have to wait til the next release, but at the moment, i can say one thing, the google maps app for WinMo is kicking the iphones gm ass, theirs' doesnt have latitude and layers built into it yet, they still have to access through safari, (on going competition with my cousin and our friends as pretty much everyone of them uses an iphone.....

correction, EVERYONE of them uses one.....sad
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tiago88:
my light of bottom power dont give light when i have a sms...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] adrianmak:
does dutty rom include phone conversation recording by default ? or should I install separately ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Its a personal taste thing when it comes to the iphone to be honest. Think the below pic taken from fwt's sig best describes it
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gordonzhao:
lol sorry if i sounded like i was hating on the iphone, its more like I'm use to WinMo, but i also like the iPhone, just my preference is to stick with WinMo, I've had many opportunities to get an iphone below market price as well =] its just more flexible for me, but i will give apple the props of the capactive touchscreen response is damn good, and in regards to the picture, lol the "hot girl" just doesnt work, i say this because 3 generations of iphones so far, and they all look "just about the same"

but enough of going off topic, i installed the cabs you posted! worked great! thanks once again! thinking about using wallpapers throughout the manila tabs, but then the text/wallpaper color conflicts will probably be an issue, so i dont think im going to bother......but did you happen to read about my signature posts regarding the TF3D interface? any ideas or comments in regards to the matter?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] reschu:
heey I got a question is it possible to activate a slide to answer with the new windows 6,5 screen lock?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
I'm not one for using signatures in sms, but I just tried this out and I see your point. Signature only appears in MS sms and not manila. This is most likely another issue with manila and not Throys rom
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dany20mh:
Fallen Spartan ,

Thanks For Answer Me !!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Luisjc69:
Hi Guys,

have a big problem with the flash HTC with HD WM6.5 R9 Turbo Roms (Standard)

I starting the BlackstoneRUUWrapper.exe and i see the 0%.....but only stay of 0% and is coming ERROR [262] Communication error.....but the first time can read the version of my rom....and later is coming this error...dont understand!! :(

I have the same problem with DUTTYS and MIRIs WM 6.5 ..........

Any helps please?

My ROM: 1.56

Thanks

Luisa
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cplnoonoo:
Is that not the usb drivers needing updated...are you using vista by any chance? If so you need to have admin privelages to do the flash successfully