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[G1 Android Development] Jrbourque:
So I'm guessing that there is no word on what is suppose to be coming out? Like said earlier besides bt and led what is there? lol.

edit- and what ever happened to BT working on hero but having to do it in terminal?
[G1 Android Development] dweller88:
does cyanogens have all of the HTC apps?

either way I just like to have the option to flip between rosie and OG launcher :p

and JAC 2.63 with original launcher runs pretty damn fast
[G1 Android Development] mdanerd:
because hero has better gui for text messaging, facebook integration, better photo album, etc. its not just about the home screen :)
[G1 Android Development] mdanerd:
so pushing the Launcherapk/odex failed, ended up reflashing. going to do the photon mod since it has no rosie by default.
[G1 Android Development] JediMasterASD:
Anyone else having problems with exchange support? i have Touchdown installed and PUSH enabled and I have the HTC Mail app set up on exchange and set to "as items arrive" and Touchdown will alert me to new messages just like it should but Activesync on HTC Mail will only work about 50% of the time. I would like to not be able to use Touchdown but I cannot make myself stop using it while Mail app isnt 100% reliable.

I am running 2.63
[G1 Android Development] itsruddy:
From what I read so far, the linux-swap partition assists as additional RAM, and the kernel knows this.

does this mean, then, that we can remove swapper as it is, perhaps, no longer necessary?

a little clarification would be nice =)
[G1 Android Development] alritewhadeva:
Yup swapper app is no longer needed :D
[G1 Android Development] itsruddy:
my bad for the double posts, timed out =/
[G1 Android Development] itsruddy:
thanks dude!
[G1 Android Development] daweeze02:
lol this may be a dumb question but does anyone know why it syncs ALL my contacts from gmail, basically every email address I have ever typed. Unlike cupcake which syncs MY contacts.
[G1 Android Development] rickyuknowme:
how fast does this rom run is it still laggy and does it freeze up
[G1 Android Development] AndroidFiend:
I have a class 4 8gb sdcard. do you think if i partition my sdcard linux swap and ext3 partitions would work properly?
[G1 Android Development] roguespy0:
i have had no lag and no load screens,it has worked perfect so far been running for a few days.
[G1 Android Development] rickyuknowme:
thankx

what class sdcard do u have and what size
[G1 Android Development] RaiderX303:
i currently have a 64mb swap partition for this rom as i had a couple loading screens from more intensive apps although i am concidering taking it upto 96mb for the swap, therefore it wont fill it and will make the sd last longer as it spreads the load a bit more, it also means that the total memory matches the actual hero phone.
[G1 Android Development] BombaMyte:
Yeah, it'll work fine. I have a class 4 4gb card and a class 2 2gb card set up, and the ROM still flies on both.
[G1 Android Development] AndroidFiend:
thanx i'll try to partition my card but i dont know how to do all this stuff with adb so i'llfind a way how to in the forums
[G1 Android Development] jugg2000:
Anybody working on a Rachael build?
[G1 Android Development] roguespy0:
I using a 8gb class 6 card
[G1 Android Development] johnnylicious:
wrong thread to post that topic :mad:

this is strictly HERO. :rolleyes:
[G1 Android Development] BombaMyte:
No need to use ADB. Get Paragon Partition Manager. Easier. Or if you want, use Parted in Recovery. Follow KennySmoothx's directions here (quoted by andrews240).
[G1 Android Development] stogchris81:
Can anyone tell me why, when I type parted /dev/block/mmcblk0 then print, why does it give me my available space in GB instead of MB? I can't make it happy. It says I have 16.1GB but even if I round it to an even 16000MB it tells me I'm outside of the block?
[G1 Android Development] xyrcncp:
I was just thinking about this. Are there any ideas as to why location-aware applications (including Maps) can't locate you if you're on 3G, but can on EDGE and GPS?
[G1 Android Development] ce_rob:
i'm running this on a class 2 2GB card and it lags HORRIBLY. i flashed it, removed some widgets, and haven't touched it since. what more do i need to do to keep it from lagging? i can't even answer my calls in time as by the time my phone rings, the other end gets to my voicemail! =(
[G1 Android Development] beaubrewer1977:
Swapiness - swapper - Linux-swap

Wow, I am SO confused! Too many options, too many nuggets, to few solid answers.

So with the 2.63 ROM, and Linux-Swap enabled we no longer need the Swapper app - okay did that.

But I am reading about what to "really" set my linux-swap to. I have read nothing over 32mb, and I have read as high as 96. I suppose it is trial and error. But how do you change the swapiness, I have read a few how-to's and have read plenty of talk about changing it, but how?

I bought a brand new 8g class 6 card. I have it formatted correctl, my values are apprx.

Fat32 7100mb

ext3 500mb

Linux-swap 156mb

The above was my second format, my first was exactly what the 1page recomends.

However during both formats I still see the HTC screen, and loading often - or the systems just hangs for a few seconds and the responds.

I only have two widgets, Clock (with weather) and the calendar (style 2)

I'm fairly certian that it is not my CPU, as I have netmonitior running and I have not peaked my cpu. (only while trying to track down my problem)

I am stumped, but I want to experiment with the swapiness, but cant find a method to edit it - I found some reference to an "echo" command with lucid, but not a solid anything solid.

Otherwise, I really like the ROM and great work everyone

Thanks!

Beau
[G1 Android Development] BombaMyte:
I can get a GPS fix on 3G. I need to pull the Screenshot app from the last update and push it to 2.63. Once I do that I'll take a screen shot & post it to show.

EDIT: Can't seem to find it. Can someone pull it & post it here? Thx.

Are you using the Slow SD versions? I'm use it on both cards & I'm not getting any horrible lag times. I also have linux-swap partitions on both set to 96mb, so that may be a factor too...
[G1 Android Development] ce_rob:
nope, using the non-slowsd version. and i, too, am using 96mb on my linux-swap partition...

how snappy is yours? even rotating from portrait to landscape lagged HORRIBLY for me. =(
[G1 Android Development] xyrcncp:
I don't think you read my post as I meant it. You can be on 3G or EDGE and turn GPS on and yes, of course you will get a GPS fix, because you have GPS turned on.

My post refers to how come a location can't be fixed on when only on 3G (and no GPS on)?
[G1 Android Development] esouthatx44:
how do i find my last physical number on paragon partitioner
[G1 Android Development] Jrbourque:
I thought swap was suppose to be 32? i set mine to 32 and my phone is running awesome even rotating is good.
[G1 Android Development] BombaMyte:
I'd use the Slow SD versions then. If you're still having a lot of lag, I'd do a full wipe of your ext2/3 & linux-swap partitions, phone wipe & reflash.

FYI for everyone: Last night I removed my SIM prior to flashing my phone (for the umpteenth time ;-)). I connected to my wifi network during setup, re-installed all my apps (I love .bat files, so easy), changed my settings to my liking, and made a nandroid backup before re-inserting my SIM. After I disconnected from wifi after reboot, the phone seems a little more responsive now. Prolly a fluke, but good to note...
[G1 Android Development] edwinr29:
edit the a2sd.sh script and find the line that has " echo 30 " and change the 30 to 60 ( or the swappines of your liking ), and that's it

there are 2 ways you can do it though..

you can either adb pull the file from /system/bin/, edit it and push it back. or you can edit the one on the zip, resign it and reflash, wichever works better for you
[G1 Android Development] BombaMyte:
Sorry, misread it. I'll test that in a few mins.

If you're using Paragon you don't have to worry about that; you can click and drag the size of the partition you want. KennySmoothx's directions are for if you're using Parted in the Recovery Console.
[G1 Android Development] steveruv:
did you use paragon partition?

im not familiar with ADB or ubuntu as I have partitioned my sd card with paragon partition.

how would i do it with an 8gb card? fat32 and ext2 i can do, but dont how to change the ext3 and do linux swap.

thanks...
[G1 Android Development] BombaMyte:
You can still do all of this in Paragon, and it's easier (if only you didn't have to reboot all the damn time, LOL!). If you're doing it in Parted from Recovery, follow KennySmoothx's directions here.
[G1 Android Development] esouthatx44:
oh ok so what partitions do i do first? becasuse i was tryin to to linux swap firs and it goes from 18.8 to 37.7 i cant pick in between. and do i pick linuxswap1 or linuxswap2. thanks for the quick reply too
[G1 Android Development] CPR123:
Go into Terminal

su

free

Check to see if you have any number next to swap, if u don't then it's not working & that is causing the lag.
[G1 Android Development] Jrbourque:
Why not just do it in recovery? you would have probably had it done by now
[G1 Android Development] BombaMyte:
Quick replies are only available if I'm sitting here doing nothing, :p

If you're using Paragon, make the fat32 partition first, followed by ext2/3, and finally linux-swap. You can use linux-swap. I *think* I'm trying out linux-swap2 at the moment (half-asleep when reformatting last night).
[G1 Android Development] esouthatx44:
because dont i need a new recovery image and i also didnt know how to use parted or if ment downloading or anythin i was just gonna try it but i tought is better to ask
[G1 Android Development] esouthatx44:
oh ok, im using a 2gb card and goin to format 1.3 of it and it says i have 544.6 unallocated wich should be enough for the 512 ext3 and 32 linux right or is there a diff configuration you tried thats worked better for you. thanks again :D
[G1 Android Development] Jrbourque:
I didnt have the recovery either, but the update.zip makes it easy, you just reboot and flash it boot up and then reboot phone into recovery and its there, all the instructions on the first page will help but if you need any help you can feel free to ask me or other people. But i dont know anything about partition magic lol cant help you out there
[G1 Android Development] DMaverick50:
FYI...I just changed my linux partition from 30mb to 40mb and i am positive that there is less lag, not that there was much to begin with, but definite improvement
[G1 Android Development] BombaMyte:
That sounds good. I think the swappiness is set for 20 anyway, which seems to be the sweet spot for a 32mb swap partition. BTW, are you installing a lot of apps? That 512mb ext3 is humungomajor, hehehe.
[G1 Android Development] esouthatx44:
oh appreciate the help didnt know it was that simple i just didnt want to go to the trouble of using adb as i dont have it and didnt want to install only reason i havent flashed this rom
[G1 Android Development] esouthatx44:
not really just want some free space lol :), but say i cant get the 32mb on the dot would it matter it if its a bit bigger?
[G1 Android Development] Jrbourque:
you dont need adb if you put the new recovery img on there. you do it all on the phone :)
[G1 Android Development] Ronnymes:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=535914
[G1 Android Development] BombaMyte:
That'll be fine. The phone will accept the extra MBs. :)

This is true. :)
[G1 Android Development] DMaverick50:
So JAC's twitter says "sit tight for something nice" for about 19 hours now, glad i only sat tight for about 7 hours. im not holding my breath anymore but for curiosity's sake does anyone have an inkling about what he is alluding to? thanks
[G1 Android Development] Jrbourque:
I dont think so, i asked earlier and no response, but very curious as to what it could be besides BT and LED but they said its not that so i dunno
[G1 Android Development] DMaverick50:
well i thought theres was murmur about an application by them, maybe to make flashing easier, hell i dont know...
[G1 Android Development] Jrbourque:
i know that twisted is working on an widget that works with an app that tells you about updates, but thats all i heard about that
[G1 Android Development] beaubrewer1977:
Yeah, I've done that several times, I think I'm gonna try the ADB thing, and see if that helps.

Thanks all!
[G1 Android Development] esouthatx44:
i think your only allowed to used swap2 when reformattin the rest of the unallocated space after doin the fat32, could it be?
[G1 Android Development] esouthatx44:
and i only have 31.3 for the linux swap should it be ok?
[G1 Android Development] Jrbourque:
how big is ur card?
[G1 Android Development] CPR123:
I'm running 32MB for linux-swap and it's quite smooth for most part except when I browse multiple pages I ran out of swap space (I monitored it using ADB). for the next upgrade I will increase swap to 64 or 96.
[G1 Android Development] ducatisonicboom:
Is there a reason nobody makes any GUI's to do this stuff. switching rom's etc . i would think it wold be soooo much easyer for the community and a lot less Questions to answere all the time on how to .
[G1 Android Development] Jrbourque:
there has been some gui's made for different things, but then its not as fun if you have guis :)
[G1 Android Development] esouthatx44:
it is 2gb....
[G1 Android Development] Jrbourque:
you should be able to do like 500mb for ext2 ......32mb for swap.....and you would still have over 1 gig for fat32
[G1 Android Development] esouthatx44:
yeah thats close to what i did but for some reason my sd is not poppin in "my computer" but it still does in paragon so i cant put the update on it
[G1 Android Development] RaiderX303:
64-96mb for swap i'd recommend, im currently using 50mb of the swap, and thats only while reading email.

total used free shared buffers

Mem: 98328 96684 1644 0 116

Swap: 96380 46084 50296

Total: 194708 142768 51940
[G1 Android Development] Jrbourque:
im only using 15
[G1 Android Development] Jrbourque:
If you still have an old build on ur phone go to settings, sdcard, and then unmount and then format and then stick it into ur computer and throw the update.zip for the recovery and that might be easier
[G1 Android Development] madunix:
sooo... i finally installed the latest n greatest drizzyjac 2.63... i'd have to say this def came a very long way from when i last tried it. hmm i thought the landscape view was fixed for when the keyboard is open? anyways... great work man.
[G1 Android Development] esouthatx44:
you mean mount the phone or just stick the sd cause i just been stickin in my sd but its not just my sd i tried another to see if it worked and it wouldnt pop up but that one also would pop on on partition manager
[G1 Android Development] edwinr29:
the problem with getting that is that the HERO itself doesn't have a physical keyboard, so i dont think there is any provision on the code itself for that event...

i believe that would take a couple more updates, if it were ever to happen ( not that its that crittical )
[G1 Android Development] Jrbourque:
unmount and format while its in ur phone then put it into the computer and you can put the update.zip on there for the recovery
[G1 Android Development] madunix:
quick question, with the jachero rom, i have a bunch of old contacts saved on my sim card that i don't want, i searched in my phone for the option to turn that of but i couldn't find it, anyone got any idea's? i just want my contacts that are stored on google account.
[G1 Android Development] abteer:
Is anyone not having trouble receiving calls? It seems like it either starts ringing as soon as VM picks up or 2 rings before VM picks up. If your not having problems with this can you please tell me your setup.
[G1 Android Development] madunix:
oooic, i appreciate that bit of info. ur right on the fact that it ain't crucial, the only reason i ask is because when i hit back or home coming from an app or something i usually have my keyboard open and it takes those extra few seconds for it to load back into the normal mode.
[G1 Android Development] edwinr29:
i feel your pain, been there too, but at least we're not getting that bugging HTC screen and the loading thing

it made me wanna jump of a building
[G1 Android Development] jawash22:
Same here...I got 32MB Swap and 3 widgets, but my phone rings 1-2 times before going to voicemail. I can tell I'm getting a call because the keys light up, but it itakes a few seconds until I can actually answer the call. It's a memory problem and i'm not sure increasing the swap size will help....answers anyone?:confused:
[G1 Android Development] Jrbourque:
I use 32mb with twitter,msg,weather,fml,brightness,wifi,gps, and search widgets running and receive my calls just fine
[G1 Android Development] Podgintor:
I'm still getting quite a few loading screen / HTC screens when switching to the home screen, I have a 32mb swap and an 8gb class 4 Microsd card. It's quite annoying.

Is there anything I can do to remedy this, because otherwise it runs quite fast.
[G1 Android Development] madunix:
same problem, i have the 32mb swap with a class 6 sdcard n it does this. ima try the android2sd tonight n see if thatll help ne thing. ill let u guys know
[G1 Android Development] chicojd:
GREAT ROM! Now for the question... I have a 16GB class 6 and when I run parted (print) it shows me everythying in GB (16.1GB total, etc...) You mention not to use anything different than a 32MB swap. When I do this in Linux, the size is a little bigger than 32MB and my mistake was creating a 64MB swap with Ubuntu before reading the entire post. The ROM seems to be running ok, but the question I have is if I change the swap to 32MB using linux and it reports a little different size in parted (print), am I ok?
[G1 Android Development] abteer:
I think I fixed my problem. I deleted every HTC widget except:

-Clock

-Messages

-Music

-People

-Settings

-Twitter

-Weather

Now it consistently rings only twice on their end before I can pick up.

By the way I love your picture of Beet
[G1 Android Development] madunix:
well aren't u just special... :)
[G1 Android Development] Jrbourque:
I do try lol;)
[G1 Android Development] Noni007:
im not sure if anyone else has noticed.. but I have much better luck with bootlooping (not bootlooping that is) when I open the phone into landscape when its booting up. Anyone else notice this?
[G1 Android Development] alritewhadeva:
Drizzy just released a modified 2.63. Nothing really different check out his twitter here

The ROM can be found here
[G1 Android Development] Diceman4:
I had the same issue, so I reformatted my SD and gave it 128mb swap and increased swappiness to 60 and I have not seen a loading screen since :)
[G1 Android Development] g2crx:
can you pmme or post here on how to change the setting to 60 please.
[G1 Android Development] RaiderX303:
if your still getting loading screens, resize your swap to 96mb if using linux swap partition or 128mb if using swapper, that way the total memory matches the actual hero so no more loading :)
[G1 Android Development] g2crx:
so i should just resize it to 96 and that's it? i don't have to "echo"anything?
[G1 Android Development] stogchris81:
has anyone posted instructions on how to change swapiness in a2sd.sh?
[G1 Android Development] smnnekho:
the "swappersize" is just how big the partition is. by 'echoing' you're able to change the swappiness value.

by the way, you can use swapper (the new one with linux-swap support) to override the swap-on-boot and change the swappiness there too
[G1 Android Development] crr127:
ya i'm curious to know how to change the linux swap settings.... cuz i just got my 4gb class 6 and it is at home waiting for me to open her up.. i'm gonna set the partitions tonight and i want to know how to set the swap for 96megs? right
[G1 Android Development] RaiderX303:
an easier way if your already using a 32mb swap is to get swapper and set it to use a 64mb swap on /system/sd as then you have 2 swap locations, you can also set swappiness in swapper and that will override the default setting

Edit: if you just want to partition the sd, then i recommend the gparted live cd, i use it within vmware but you can just burn it to cd and boot to it without installing anything.
[G1 Android Development] crr127:
so wait.. set up a regular linux 32meg swap.. and on top of that use the swapper apk and set that up for 64 megs?? we can use both... that won't have any complications as far as the system knowing which to use???
[G1 Android Development] RaiderX303:
ive used both, but went to using a swap partition only as i didnt need to wait for swapper to make the swapfile
[G1 Android Development] kickfliprock13:
I have a slow sdcard and I have been putting the slow sd versions on until recently on twitter drizzy posted a new build and I tried it out and its not slow sd and it runs way faster so I decided to try 2.63 without slow sd and it ran faster than it did with slow sd! oh I also have linux-swap with 80mb and a widget on every screen with no loading screens and no lag! I also did a few optimizations of my own also but just wanted to let you guys know who are lagging with a slow sd card to try a non-slowsd build
[G1 Android Development] madunix:
anyone else having problems with their sms timestamps? it's placing my txt with the person i'm txting with all mixed up..
[G1 Android Development] crr127:
so once you set the linux swap for 96 megs or whatever.. how do you go ahead and set the echo???? alittle how to i'm sure would help out quite a few of us
[G1 Android Development] munnabhai13:
also change the swapiness to 60mb
[G1 Android Development] ComplexMinded:
Not everyone has success with those settings.. I found that mine works better under 60.. usually 20 or 40
[G1 Android Development] VGPOP:
It fixed the problem. Thanks!

Do people get a "loading" screen every time they turn on their phones?
[G1 Android Development] Dror520:
Yea I do. from videos it happens on the Hero too
[G1 Android Development] shilster:
so i just put that swapper.apk file on my sd card and reboot my phone?
[G1 Android Development] shilster:
how did u "get information"?
[G1 Android Development] spiderman_anhvu:
Go to swapper app, go settings and you will see: swap place :)
[G1 Android Development] johnnylicious:
2.4 is being tested right now

can't wait for the release ;]
[G1 Android Development] spiderman_anhvu:
My G1 is running good with SMS service.

I'm running JAC 2.3.5. No format before flashing rom, wipe before flashing

I'm using swapper also.

Last night, i've tested to receive SMS when my G1 was browsing web (using default browser). It took about 5 second to notify there is an incoming SMS.
[G1 Android Development] Diceman4:
Did you wipe before before installing? If not you should. I have not had a 400 error once on this build. Don't use the bank of america app tho bc it references the google browser, but I have had no issues logging in through https

You do realize that these are all experimental builds for a rom that was designed for a better device right? The purpose of tweaking is to work towards a daily use build by trying things to see if they work. If that is not what you are interested in perhaps you should be happy with a fast and stable cyanogen or soulife build and wait for a definitively stable and fast hero build to eventually emerge from the distributed community of willing testers.
[G1 Android Development] shilster:
for some reason i dont have swapper app in my menu.. i tried to put .apk file on the root of my sd card but i still get the HTC screen
[G1 Android Development] LvDisturbed1:
Somehow flashing cyanogens first did the trick. I don't understand how or why...but whatever.
[G1 Android Development] dbhatesyou:
you cant get rid of it, its always going to be there.
[G1 Android Development] KEMC:
Hey guys! my first post here, but i just flashed the 2.3.6 version, i noticed that when i get calls, the phone freezes sometimes, i tried calling from another phone and it would have a 15 to 20 second delay before it starts ringing, and sometimes it wouldnt even ring :confused:, is this normal ?