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[myTouch 3G, Magic General] mysticon:
not sure how to find out what version i have, wil this help?

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May 8 2009,21:02:32
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] ClintonH:
All the info you need is in the development section. Here's the post on SPL, yours looks to be an HTC branded from Greece.

Clinton
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rodolfogomes75:
Anyone knows if some sell's a metal batery cover, to replace the plastic one, it would be very nice... all metal outside, not just the front.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PhilipL:
Hi

The back is plastic for a reason to allow radio waves into and out of the phone. If you had an all metal battery cover the phones reception would be weakened.

Regards

Phil
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rodolfogomes75:
ok, thanks

sorry for the stupid question!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PhilipL:
Hi

Not a stupid question at all.

You may be able to get an aluminium type case that will go all around it and you leave it on, but this will do the same thing and reduce the reception.

You could spray the back a metallic colour, although some metallic paints may also be conductive.

Regards

Phil
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Deiota:
hi!

just wondering if it's possible to change the font size, style and COLOR of the text on touchflo!

I'm getting pretty bored with white text (not seen in many wallpapers)!

thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] utak3r:
Hello guys...

as some of you were asking me, how to permanently put QuickMenu in the place of honeycomb, with a RAM return, I'm putting for you a ready to use package for that.

So - first, we're just installing QuickMenu. Easy, normal process, I'm using the same package for two years already ;) Be warned though it requires DelayedExec app, as QM was sometimes causing some problems during a cold boot. If you don't have it, or don't want it, just re-edit LNK file to remove its usage.

Then - it seems QM can't capture "start" word under wm6.5, so we're using a great app named "StartButton" and set it to capture this word and call QM.

Then - hey! Where're some of the icons from the settings menu?... Well - remember some of them were out of their folders? We need to get them back...

In the end... we want to get rid of the honeycomb itself, as it's still sitting in our RAM - almost 2MB of RAM on QVGA! It's a nightmare... how to do that? Easy... just edit proper CPR files and set them to... null text ;) this way system won't be able to prepare a whole scene and won't load those files - returning you all this RAM. Be careful - it's prepared for QVGA, so for other resolutions, you have to re-edit this file and change the filenames in it!

The package contains all those things - preconfigured QuickMenu, fixed settings items in their proper folders (done with a provXML file), preconfigured StartButton and special initflashfiles.txt file, changing the CPR files to the empty ones.

Enjoy your brand new, fast and full of RAM WM6.5! :cool:

DOWNLOADS:

1. For the kitchen:

The package in the EXT format for ervius' kitchen can be downloaded from here.

2. For normal users:

2a. twopumpchump compiled a CAB installation, it's here. It fits all the resolutions!

2b. jfrm reedited this CAB, so it doesn't remove the honeycomb. So, if you want, just quit QM and there's your honeycomb back! It's here.

2c. Another version from jfrm - tapping on logo will pop QM, while tapping on the "Start" word will pop honeycomb. It's here.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] + Que PPC:
Man!

last night i was trying to make this works over the START word in task bar... this is great...!!!

BTW do you know how to remove the titanium?

I dont want the whole files, but if i disable chome in sys or bronze or bronzeEA the start wont works and the devices freeze by itself... maybe we couldnt and just need to disable it in today settings and thats all! but it seems that the semitransparent bars gets lost... in that way we can have a full vanilla lots of storage and great RAM with the speed of WM6.5 and its awsome scrolling.

Nice work dude! will try it on my next release as a ultra vanilla!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] utak3r:
I've just removed all the chome and bronze packages - and all is working ok :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] twopumpchump:
good work

hi friend, ltns :) just tried the new "old style" start menu and seems to be working great. i did get the popup for DelayedExec since i dont have it in my rom, but i can fix that np. im partial to 6.5 start menu myself, but do you mind if i make a cab, or you can if you want, so some of my users can have this on my 6.5 roms? alot of people still want the old 6.1 menus and this would be great for them :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] utak3r:
go for it :) Just post it here.

Just remember to change those cpr files to empty ones, so it can free up ram.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] + Que PPC:
why?

This is to have more RAM but...

The quick menu works fine,

that popup error that twopumpchump say stops to show on in second softreset

but can you see the bronzeres error? both plugins... weather and some other in blank and i have only 12mb of ram... could it be due to lzx compression :p?

What else to delete?

Bronze

bronzeEA

bronzenonEA

Chome
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] twopumpchump:
ok here it is, i included delayedexec and the blank cpr files if thats ok :) just tested on my phone seems to work perfect, if not let me know ill fix it. im going to link to your thread for my users, im sure they will let you know if you have any bugs lol. thanks for the great work.

edit....now for all resolutions :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] utak3r:
Well, I'm using lzx, too, so...

bronze

Bronze_DPI_96

BronzeNonEA

CHome

CHome_DPI_96

CHome_Lang_0409

ok, thanks :) I was too lazy to make it on my own... ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] brol1k:
Great work on this, now to get this for VGA users....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] utak3r:
Install this one as normal and then manually edit StartMenu_Global_*.cpr and StartMenu_GridScene_*.cpr files :)

Maybe someone will reedit this cab and include a full set of cpr files. Or maybe TPC has already done this.. just check it :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] twopumpchump:
ok updated my original post with new cab for all resolutions :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] utak3r:
Yes, it's the only resolution-dependent stuff in this proccess :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jfrm:
Is it possible to keep both menus working?

I have been thinking to much before going to 6.5 due the lost of QMenu and WkTask. So for me your trick is a very, very good news. Thank you very much.

Anyway, Is it possible to keep both menus working?

In my old Hermes 6.1 I have Original Star Menu set to Ms logo Long Press and QMenu to normal press, and now with the huge memory of my new Touch Pro, will be nice to keep both. One for finger use and the other one for stylus time.

Thanks for the effort.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] utak3r:
Yes - just don't overwrite those cpr files...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jfrm:
Wonderfull,

I have downloaded your file, but this look like a cocking packet...

How should I install it in a working rom?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] brol1k:
Now it works perfect, only thing is I dont see the time and clock in settings anywhere.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] utak3r:
In 7th post twopumpchump posted a CAB file, get it and install it.

It's because I put it into personal section, and not to system, as it was originally ;) I prefer it that way.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jfrm:
Sorry to bother you again, but I'm afraid that the cab is going to overwrite the cpr files and make me loose the HoneyComb.

It that right?

Remember my fist question here, I want to keep both menus working.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] + Que PPC:
remember to search

Think about this

the cab file can be open with winrar or cabmanager or some more apps so... open the cab file and delete the cpr files... save it and you are good to go...

Be cool man our developers woks hard to get more power here.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jfrm:
Sorry, I don't want to disturb.

My english is far from good and maybe there is some missunderstood.

Will try this way. Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] brol1k:
Yea I kno where it originally is supposed to go as I too prefer it that way lol...But I dont see it there and I also dont/cant find the Today setting to change theme or choose UI's....byt the way Im on the sprint touch pro running NRGZ Cdma rom wm 6.5
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] c_shekhar:
good work indeed!!! shall give it a try..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] utak3r:
gInstall it as normal and after that, before makinf a softreset, delete those cpr files manually. Then, after performing a soft reset, you will have your original files from ROM back :)

hmm... then check in registry, what do you have in values "Group" in keys HKLM\ControlPanel\Clock and HKLM\ControlPanel\Today.

You did performed a soft reset, didn't you?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wg5566:
Good work utak3r & tpc, thanks!

Once somebody asked why is QM not cooked into ROMs so much. I was thinking about two points. One is maybe lack of promotion to let everybody know the advantage of QuickMenu. Second is we need to overcome people's habited way of using startmenu.

I never tried to disable the honeycomb, but you made it clear that it means 2MB RAM released. Now of course I'll do it, only for the 2MB RAM,.

I was seeking some RegTweak way to disable the Honeycomb. If its possible, then we don't need to touch the cpr files. And then we can have a MortSript toggle for turning honeycomb on/off. This will be good for cooks to face all users, those tends to have different appetite for everything.

Another thing is the issue of 'Enlarge StartMenu', it's better just disable it by the way to release some more RAM, in addition that the 'Large StartMenu' itself is an enemy of QuickMenu. Don't understand why 'large startmenu' components still available in WM65 ROMs now that it's using HoneyComb. Maybe also has sokeway to reactivate the triditional startmenu?

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] utak3r:
well, there is. I saw it yesterday suddenly, after furious clicking and tapping ;) Unfortunately, can't remember the way - I was way too sleepy... but, the news is: there IS still the old menu somewhere, we just have to know how to call it.

Another thing is what you said: if there were some way of just unloading honeycomb, instead of destroying it, it would help more people to use such a solution... I will seek for it, for sure :) If you find it, please do inform me :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jfrm:
Thank you utak3r, you are the man
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wg5566:
I sent my device to sercice center to solve some hardware issue, hence I can not do anything in some days.

Naybe we can compare the registry part of start menu btween WM61 & WM65, may find some clue.

Edit: And the two issues are related, if we find the way to load the traditional start menu, I think the honeycomb is just unloaded.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jfrm:
Keeping Both Menus

I have tweak the cab to avoid HoneyComb deletion, extracting cpr files from it.

QMenu is working perfectly and it is possible to exit from it and get the Honeycomb again.

My original idea was to configure QuickMenu so a long press in logo get QMenu and normal press the HoneyComb, but this options doesn't work. Any press in the logo invoke the QMenu regardeless the box you mark in QMenu Options.

Thanks again
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] utak3r:
I don't think so...

Cool thanks :)

I have to post both of them in the first post...

True. The same was with a "start" word - QM should take care of it - but it didn't - that's why there's a need for this StartButton app.

But... if you remove StartButton (or just change its reg) then tapping on logo would bring QM while tapping on "Start" would call honeycomb.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wg5566:
Forgot to mention, QuickMenu is also possible to be associated with Dotfre's TaskMgr.exe, i.e. using tasmgr.exe for application management, instead of using the task manager from the OS. Check my collection of QuickMenu Tips on this post.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] utak3r:
Hm, it uses it automatically?

Till now I was using FdcTaskManager - which is just excellent... managing proccesses, registry, devices, services, windows etc.etc.......
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wg5566:
Yes. For application management, like listing and ending running apps.

But you must (only need to) put TaskMgr.exe into Windows folder.Edit: and don't rename it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jfrm:
Woow, It Works perfectly. Now I've got best of both 6.1 and 6.5 start worlds.

Now just wktask waiting for a fix or new release...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jfrm:
New Cab for keeping both menus, with a language fix that I found in other thread (http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3682602&postcount=748). Thanks wg5566.

And Reg Key to use both menus at the same time

Logo ----> QMenu

Start (Word) ----> HoneyComb
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] c_shekhar:
Actually it is not able to remove honeycomb. We are actually hooking the start button to any prog of our choice using startbutton.exe. I would like to have a standard convetional start menu instead of honeycomb which at present, with this method is still not becoming possible...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] utak3r:
No.

Look closely - it inserts dumb cpr files, which causes system is not able to start honeycomb - and it's not starting at all - giving you your free RAM back :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wg5566:
Welcome.

All of the tips there are not my work, I just collected it into one single post.

That corrected files were brought by neiltoe, I found it in this post.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] + Que PPC:
I guess im doing something wrong

I cant get all the potencial! and is unstable, the Qmenu works fine as i used to make it work fine in HTC wizard... but here on my Hermes i cant i dont know why. i must to search for the process that is eating so much ram at maximun performance i can get 16MB :(

connmgr =296k

cprog =3.8M

device =3.53M

filesys =4M

gwes =2M

nk =0

poutlook =68k

qmenu =356k

services =692k

shell32 =1.16M

startbutton =16k

tsk mgr =144k

trayicom =52k

=17.311

total mem =39.71

in use =26.50

free =13.21

God damn! i think i desist from this

Nice job dude... hope i can find the answer.

keep it up!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] brol1k:
yea I did perform a soft reset...for HKLM\ControlPanel\Clock\Group the value is 0xffffffff(-1), and for HKLM\ControlPanel\Today its the same 0xffffffff(-1)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] utak3r:
total = 39??..... how big is your pagepool?...

ha, they should be from 0 to 2 ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] brol1k:
ok no problem, which one do I change? or are u gonna supply a new cab?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] utak3r:
change both of them to 0.

No, I won't supply a cab - in the kitchen package it's done already, and for the cab version, ask tpc if he did include this thing in the cab. I can't test this 'cause I have my rom precooked this way already ;) and I don't have a time to dissolve this cab and check it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] brol1k:
ight i edited the registry to 0 on both soft reset and it now works, ima take the cab and tell my buddy to edit them, then ill post the cab here...thanks for this bro, it works great
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] + Que PPC:
i didnt change the PP

Is default that youset it on your Native edited nk.exe for hermes... so i think its 15MB, if this is the problem... so, i will change the PP to 8 or 6 wit....? PP changer for hermes?

Thanks man!

Right now i cant flash my device.. i think is due to a low batt.. or bad drivers on my F%·$n VAIO.... I hate it! i dont have OS right now :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] twopumpchump:
if you used the cab i made, the only registry settings that are in it are the ones from the app.reg in utak3r's ext pkg. here they are, i just exported them :) and i havent really been keeping up with this, but i dont see the settings you mentioned.

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\AlenSoft\QuickMenu\Display]
"ShowAppIcon"=dword:00000000
"WindowLeft"=dword:00000060
"BatteryMode"=dword:00000000
"ShowTaskClose"=dword:00000001
"SelectionAlpha"=dword:00000099
"BkgroundMode"=dword:00000002
"BkgroundImage"="\\Windows\\QMBgnd.bmp"
"TextColorOnImage"=dword:00e0ffe0
"BkgndCacheMode"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\AlenSoft\QuickMenu\Exclude]
"Item1"=">\\Program Files\\PocketCM\\PocketCM.exe"
"Count"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\AlenSoft\QuickMenu\MenuItems]
"TopItems"=hex:00,04,01,00,00,00,00,00,d0,07,01,01,00,00,01,00,01,04,01,01,06,\
04,01,01,f2,03,01,00,00,00,01,00,fd,03,01,01,fc,03,00,00,02,04,00,01,00,00,00,\
00
"SubItems"=hex:1a,04,01,01,24,04,01,01,2e,04,01,01
"CustomProgramMenu"=dword:00000000
"CustomProgramFolder"=""

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\AlenSoft\QuickMenu\General]
"EnableXButton"=dword:00000002
"AutoStart"=dword:00000001
"CacheImageIndex"=dword:00000001
"ReplaceStartMenu"=dword:00000001
"RegisterHomeKey"=dword:00000001
"RightArrowEndTask"=dword:00000001
"OkKeyEndTask"=dword:00000000
"LongPressAppIconFunc"=dword:000003f9
"TEditWhenEditing"=dword:00000001
"AutoEndSyncTask"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\allelimo\StartButton]
"HookWinKey"=""
"HookText"="1"
"Run"="\\Windows\\QuickMenu.exe"
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] utak3r:
is it a problem?... no..... it's a DISASTER! :eek: so, you already know, where's your free ram, don't you? ;)

change it to 4 or 6mb, and NO, no with pp changer, it can't do this on this nk.exe - I wrote an instruction on this..... go and read it.

ouch.... there is a provXML file in the package with some additional entries... which are relocating those badly led items from settings menu....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] twopumpchump:
i included the provxml to windows directory, just like it would be if you cooked it in.....is that wrong? should i have included that in registry i guess lol. let me know ill fix it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] utak3r:
as a provxml it's executed only on coldboot ;) it has to be put into reg, as the others.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Oweida:
Need a favour regarding QM

I'm a big fan of this app.

But the problem with it is the ( frequenters ) which are the shortcuts placed directly in the start menu folder . This was applicable for WM6.1 but 6.5 something weird happens every time I softrest my device which is the relocation of my shortcuts from the start menu folder to the programs folder inside the startmenu directory !!! So no frequenters !!

If this problem can be solved I would appreciate that :)

BTW, I tried Wisbar Advance once and it has an option to choose the startmenu folder for it's startmenu ,, but WA is a messy app and eats a big part of my RAM ,,

My question, Is it possible to change the root or the path of QM or not ??!

thanx

peace
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] utak3r:
well, QM has its own function for that - "Recent"... and it's working ok.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Oweida:
Utak3r

thanx for the quick reply..

Recent doesn't really do the job, moreover, it's deletable by clear temp and other tools !!

what I need is that either my shortcuts remain fixedly loacted in the startmenu folder or if possible , getting my start button assigned to a different path ..

thanx
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] philocritus:
a anyone tryed getting the start menu to launch TouchLaunch and the taskmanager using e-natives showcase? via quick menu or something?

I would defenitly send the 6.5 grid menu to oblivion for those 2...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] + Que PPC:
Yeah! thats the trick dude! it was a big disaster but i used to have a big big speed on my hermes instead of low ram :p!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol

Yup change the osnbtool to .... you know where man! its not the topic here! :D may i take this awsome idea and work into a rom for a public release?

you are the man!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] brol1k:
I havent seen my buddy all day but hopefully soon he will edit the cab file for me...that if u havent gotten to putting the prov into registry like the other guy said lol
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] utak3r:
yep, that's right... unfortunately, I have no idea, how to solve it - I was never using frequenters, so never looked for a solution...

that's what I'm publishing such things for...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wg5566:
Utak3r,

What about you don't damage the cpr file, just delete all registry entries related to it? I did not look into it since I don't have device at hand at the moment.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] utak3r:
well, as for now I don't know, how to do that.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] philocritus:
simpler solution...

copy .cpr to .bck

zip the bck

null the original .cpr

this way you can always go back...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] + Que PPC:
;) Thanks a lot man!

my info now...

60MB Storage (LZX Compr) free

28MB Ram memory! free

Hermes Device! :eek:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] utak3r:
without this you can go back, too.... how? just deleting those empty cpr files. Why? Beacuse it will restore those files from ROM.

so you see now :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SH4YD33:
Hmm.. i see in the provxml the reg entries. I will add it into the cab in a little after i wakeup. Cant test it tho, since i have my start menu exactly the way i want it. :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SH4YD33:
Here you go.. Give this a test. Everything should be in there. If you still have problems you can use advance config to import the prov xml file that is attached. That works also..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jfrm:
A question

We have working QM now, but recents and frecuenters (don't know exactly what is this last) don't work and, most importan for me, the 6.5 system move automatically any .lnk file I put in the root of "start menu" to star menu/programs.

Somebody know how to avoid this?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jfrm:
New Cab Version

This one have been updated.

Of course it is utak3r version, but I have included in it the: last files from the creator of qmenu (last exe versions and corrected mui), move all the qm files to his own folder in Program files, and change the reg keys in the cab to keep HoneyComb when you press in the word "Start Menu".
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wg5566:
To Kill the HoneyComb

Got some sence for how to kill the HoneyComb from this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=509160&highlight=start+menu

Seems the WM6.5 honeycomb start menu is a executable called shell32.exe. If so we can shut it down with a powerful task manager like DotFred's TaskMgr.exe or let it show up in the htc task manager by registry tweak and kill it. Will report it back after I test it next week. Or anybody can test it right now?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] utak3r:
Thanks, I've edited the first post :)

You want to kill shell32.exe? :D No... you don't, trust me :cool:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] utak3r:
It's a nice mod, but.. what it has to do with this thread?... :eek:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mrnamster:
How's everybody doing with the new WM 6.5.1?

I'm still trying to get the lower-left start softkey to open quickmenu...hmm....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] utak3r:
It needs some new soft to intercept this new button :/
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] isaacl:
Is there any way to have a WM 6.1 style programs list (i.e. in a new window, that can be scrolled), and also be able to use the keyboard to jusm to specific items (like hit F, and it will jump to File Explorer)?

Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] utak3r:
I don't know of any method to achieve that. And, in fact, I don't want to know it ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Tistitus:
thanks utak for the cab, I really like qm, BUT-.

Is there any way to have the quickmenu more "finger friendly"? (Like in the wm 6.1 "Enlarge startmenu").On my diamond, I need to use my stylus for taping the menus, cos they are so narrow.

Thank you