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[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] akp99:
What a ridiculous waste of a thread... the pace of leaks and releases on HTC devices and WinMo cores means that there simply isn't time to produce a "perfect ROM". Any deal breakers will be addressed but minor inconveniences can be lived with...

It's not that feedback is provided, it's the manner in which it is given. Search, investigate yourself - 9 times out of 10 you can find a solution yourself... and that's the point of these phones - the customisability. Try another driver pack, play with the pool settings...

Personally I'd prefer a cutting edge ROM with a couple of bugs. And then fix them myself. Increases my knowledge and the collective knowledge of the community.

If you don't like bugs go buy an iphone :p
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Jablko:
I'm all with akp99. I've tried several different roms and they have all contained some bugs but solutions are very often posted in the same threads. I admire most of the chefs and am more happy with my xperia after each flash.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] caliban2:
and what are the odds they'd try to jailbrake it and spam the corresponding forums? :p
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] gitin:
this is toooo much

seriously moderators should delete d accounts of people who sign in, download free cabs and softwares and start complaining about them, this is d only reason y people like Smaberg decide to leave or stop making new roms, nd 4 some people its too easy to start a new thread nd write all ......... in it

buy a cheap java phone with all built in features so u wont b able to install roms and thus free from bugs yoo hoo..:D...enjoy
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] robnewton1:
have you tried energyrom for xperia, if its anything like his raphael roms its fantastic. only problem is he seems to be loving you xperia users more than us raphael users lately. ;)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] NRGZ28:
While I agree that MOST custom ROMs have bugs, or things not fully working... I believe the PROs far outweigh the CONs. And let's face it... even STOCK ROMs have bugs! I'd rather have a fast, good looking ROM with a couple of bugs (which I'm sure wont stop me from actually using my phone to its fullest), than a slow, ugly looking, stock ROM. :)

p.s. One more thing to remember, is stock Xperia ROMs are OLD and the OEM packages found in them, are not fully compatible with the latest SYS builds from Microsoft.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] DeeChan:
I'll take my X1 with Jack's Rom! Flashed, not installed.

This is neither creative, or really criticising. That's not good.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] alodar1:
hahahahahah.....well...thats cause the X1 is cooler....and ...( this is not original) it has a cool name...Sony Erricson X 1...aka...SEX1. How can NRG NOT like that.....
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] JKingDev:
Really? Thats your feeling is it? Well you are wrong, but nice to know you feel that way. You seem to have missed the massive store of helpful info how-to's, tutorials, kitchens, resources, ect on these forums. Not surprising, as I am guessing you have never cooked a ROM in your life. So interesting of you to judge those who do so regularly just because they love doing so. And you go as far as demand they organize their work better? You have one post. Which means all you have ever done is take from this community.

Why am I even bothering to reply.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] madindehead:
The quality of the custom ROMs is lower than the stock ROM? Sorry, but what are you smoking? ANYTHING would be better than the stock ROM!

And, to be honest, to ROMs may have one or two MINOR bugs. But nothing that makes the phone unusable. This custom ROM cooking was NEVER going to be 100% bug free. But I think most of the cooks who post ROMs regularly are about 99.9% bug free. I certainly havn't had any problems with either itje's or smabergs's ROMs. Please, accept this is never going to be 100% right FIRST time, but with help, the chefs get there.

If you don't want a phone with a buggy ROM, either stock or custom, go buy a different phone. Or don't use the custom ROMs and don't comment on them. There is no point in bringing down the mood of the chefs, who do a fantastic job for 99.9999% of the people here. This community does NOT need pessimism. We have almost lost both itje and smaberg, because of people being negative towards the chefs and their ROMs.

Edit: In all honesty, I'm getting fed up of these kind of posts also. Might just have to stop answering to them. Not feeding the trolls and all that.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] cjm1979:
Would this be a good time to stop the thread now and stop giving the morons that started it attention. Hopefully we can all remember which they are when they are asking for help and answers for their problems and give them back what they give to this forum......Nothing.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Octoboy:
I'm relatively new to the XDA boards, but I tested quite some rom from different cooks, and I have never been disappointed. Some cooks include things others don't and vice versa, that's my main reason for always trying new roms. I never felt like I wasted my time with any of them.

I really don't know what one could expect from any given rom in order to be disappointed!?

Also, I agree with creamy, it's really bad form to open a topic like this.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] THJahar:
I'm smelling a trolling....hmm...users with 1 or 2 or v.low post counts slamming the X1 boards?

I think the we're being raided by macolytes....waiting for the buy a iPhone 3GS pitch in 3......2.......1......
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] THJahar:
double post
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] msc125:
not good

i can see the thread starters point of view, and i have felt the same on occasion. cooks claim super-speed, but after flashing, it's just not so. Or there are too many bugs etc... I've tried almost all the ROMs on this forum- i was a proper ROM junkie!! but I was disappointed too,

however, my point is that this feeling was short-lived; i'll echo everythign that's been said here already-

- cooked ROMs are FRREEEEE!

- you can't complain like you have and be taken seriously

- any cooked ROMs run rings around stock ROMs- bugs or no bugs

I haven't posted much on this forum, because i'm still learning and find it hard to help solve others' problems, but mainly because I have searched and read and searched and read, and searched and read some more, and can honestly say that i've found a solution to all bugs i have encountered.

any queries, problems, bugs seem to have been addressed, so BIG kudos to all the cooks who tirelessly improve their ROMs, and BIG kudos to all the knowledgeable users who contribute and help. there will always be new bugs, but these will be seen to aswell, it's a big community

also, read the ROM threads from top to bottom, find out about the bugs, and make an informed decision on whether to flash it or not. it's not good form to flash and complain

finally, like i said earlier, i can understand your point of view but a little time and effort is needed. and don't forget these ROMs are built by people who spend a lot of time doing so, and demand nothing in return, and therefore deserve more from the users than threads like this
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ardealul:
as if it's so complicated to create a new user :)))) good thinking.

open (source) software != bad software

i stand by my opinion. some roms for prophet had no bugs (as in roms CAN be 100% bug free) and most custom roms for xperia are far poorer in quality than those were (haven't tried all though).

"anti-morons" that think encouraging mediocrity is the way to go are plain wrong. in their point of view, if it's free it is allowed to be poorly made. If this were true, NOBODY would be using open (source) software.

Market Share for Top Servers Across All Domains May-June 2009 (see attachment for a better picture)

Developer	May 2009	Percent	June 2009	Percent	Change

Apache	109,672,897	46.49%	112,162,110	47.12%	0.63

Microsoft	66,871,466	28.35%	59,034,213	24.80%	-3.55

qq.com	28,905,135	12.25%	30,447,369	12.79%	0.54

Google	8,678,011	3.68%	11,858,840	4.98%	1.30

nginx	6,342,250	2.69%	8,771,415	3.69%	1.00

Sun	677,073	0.29%	715,080	0.30%	0.01

if apache were developed according to "anti-morons" mentality, it would never get on this list.

i'm so sick of people thinking that if they do something for "free" they can deliver crap.

Why these roms are not free:

1. time is money. Everyone that tries out some of these roms wastes time (and global GDP goes down 0,0000001%)

2. donations. if it's really free, you do it because you are passionate about it and not because of donations. Placing a link that says "donate here" is acceptable but saying with bold red letters "pls donate to support development".....get a job and do this in your spare time....out of passion.

saying that you can always use stock rom and not install these custom roms is plain stupid.

People like these "anti-morons" kill open source initiatives.

p.s.: i will NEVER buy an iPhone ! :D

p.s.2: just to prove my point about donations....discussion about a new "top secret" rom. people were asking details.answer..."I will pm details to all who donated tomorrow :)" WTF????? this forum used to be free !!!!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] therealreddavid:
What, because I haven't spent a weekend cobbling together a ROM, I don't get an opinion? Congrats on using the lamest cop-out of all time. I assume, by the same token, that you never criticise any music, movies, TV shows, buildings, children, applications, videogames, or anything else because you've never created one yourself? No? Then let's agree that that's a stupid thing to say.

I use cooked ROMs, and I've pointed plenty of my friends in the direction of these XDA boards for cooked ROMs, because they serve as a massive improvement on the stock ROMs. They are, however, let down by sycophants who say things are fast when they're not, and, to an extent, a cooking culture that seems to encourage rapid releases, rather than thoroughly tested and less frequent releases. In software development, that's pretty poor. It does seem like ROMs are being released without proper testing, ie. with a list of all the features that a ROM should do, and a test of all of them to confirm that they work okay before being released.

In proper software development, we dev the software, test it ourselves, then pass the compiled code on to one group of testers to see what bugs tey find with it, the uncompiled code to another group to see what bugs they find both with the running app and what mistakes they see in the source, and repeat the process from there until the feature set that was decided upon earlier works properly. That's what produces solid apps, and it's what would improve the quality of the ROMs here.

Although, to reiterate, I think the cooked ROMs here are great. I'd like them to be better, but as it is, they already are far superior to the stock ROMs. I'm very thankful to the cooks for doing what they do, and I greatly admire them for it.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] therealreddavid:
That's stupid. Feedback is always a useful thing, even when it is as basic as "That's ****". Good software develops the same way that people develop in social interractions. People test boundaries, sometimes they find positive responses, other times they get negative responses. From this, they learn how best to adapt their personalities and their conversation to fit various people. I could go deeper into this, but can't really be arsed with the psycology lesson. Point is, this applies to software development, and to any kind of creative development, since without having bounds placed upon what they create, people will inevitably start to produce something crap. Criticism is essential, even when it isn't constructive. Even if we don't like it.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] therealreddavid:
What I said three posts ago. No right to complain because I haven't produced one too? Do you genuinely not realise how idiotic you are? Do you want me to risk bricking someone's phone because I cba putting the hours in before criticising what someone else produced?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] therealreddavid:
No, you're not being raided. Not by me, anyway. Look through my post history. Look at my user account. Registered roughly around the time of the X1 release, posting in various X1 ROM threads, probably some other stuff too. I'd post more, but there's just not enough that interests me, and I don't know enough about the subjects here to contribute anything much of value.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ardealul:
maybe a solution to all the release chaos would be to create another thread named BETA ROM Releases (under the xperia root thread)

smth like

"xda-developers > Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 > Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 BETA ROM Releases"

as oposed to

"xda-developers > Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 > Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 ROM Releases"

this way, the latter thread could be spared of all the crap people think of releasing

i will be glad to complain only in the former, leaving the latter clean and nice :)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] akp99:
Seriously, the Prophet is a dated device for which little further development is possible so the emphasis switches to stability and being 100% bug free.

The Xperia can take the bleeding edge development from HTC as soon as it is leaked and generally this software has bugs and requires reverse-engineering to be compatible with the X1... a massive job for any cook or beta team to do in their spare time.

Oh dear...

1. No it doesn't

2. Donations provides the community a way to express their gratitude and provides motivation to the cooks. Can't believe you're now attacking post formatting..
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ardealul:
Poll

in order to clear all the discussions, i've made a poll.

I apologize in advance if the current status of the roms is above day to day use. That only means i am too picky and the roms are good enough for most people.

Personally, i checked the 4th option because i AM passionate about this forum (my join date is 2006 !).
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] gitin:
poll

hey y not make another poll and put 2 options:

1. Like this thread, wanna cum back nd ve a look

2. Don,t like this thread, don't ever wanna cum back

nd then c d result

:Dhahahaha:D
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] madindehead:
Please, can we end this ****. Custom ROMs are awesome, even with bugs. A LOT better than stock ROM ****!

End of.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] madindehead:
Sorry, double post.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Barachiel:
Guess you're an unlucky person.

Smabergs 10.1 Touch works wonders for me.

Havn't thad any bugs at all, except Opera 9.5 crashing, but that's probably not Smabergs fault.

Smaberg > All the devs at SE.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] shingers5:
fuk here we go again..............another thread started by someone complaining about things being too buggy etc. unbelievable and very selfish!!!!!!! first of all what if there were not custom roms what would you do? would you moan to microsoft or sony ericsson about the bugs in their official stock releases. if the official releases by both microsoft and sony are buggy who gives anyone the right to complain like this! these guys are taking roms ported from other devices and enabling you to use it on your device. there are bound to be bugs as most of the roms released on here are from different devices, recently topaz, rhodium and omnia! now that alone should alert you to that fact that bugs will be there. x1 is a far more complex device to cook for than prophet! i too am in agreement that most cooks seem to be more concerned with donations than the quality of the work. seems roms are thrown out there prior to being tested thoroughly and bugs fixed. thats why i hooked up with WC as thats his approach to fix prior to release. others seem to release and fix after!

if you don't like the quality of the work then don't use them! sell your x1 and get your prophet back! beta is what it says..............BETA! you have a choice on not using custom roms and only use official updates by sony or ms. when they fuk up moan to sony/ms ok! don't flash them and you have nothing to moan about do you? so simple and no need to start a thread based on your opinion!

donate donate donate: new rom turns up and donation link is first thing you see! if you like ma work buy me a beer! oh i do this for fun but if you want to donate! - i don't donate at all as its my choice. i have donated to Jack and someone else then decided to stop! i will donate to getting hardspl, to xda for keeping forum alive! not to anyone person for doing something they class as fun............. never!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Omidxperia:
I agree with him ...
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] gtrab:
FREEDOM OF SPEECH

If somebody feels custom ROMs are crap, OK let him speak out !!

We all have the right to post our oppinions

I had to bring down my last 2 releases because WM6.5 is still very buggy, and cooking for the XPERIA is not that "easy" as with other "pure HTC" devices: XPERIA is HTC's bastard son with SONY, Very different to all his siblings

Since my very first public ROM I always share the kitchen, so everybody can fine tune my ROMs or fix bugs or customiize it their way

Finally, I AM NOT ASHAMED OF BUGS, I learn from them

I have no fear of people firing my works, I have no secrets

After all, this place is PUBLIC and we are all here to LEARN
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] jackleung:
I feel some cooks do (it's sad but it's true) but not most. And I hope you are not refer me as one of that "most cooks". For me, I simply shared what I am using (Full rom w/ Chinese support), with a little extra time to create some variant (medium, lite) for general public with the help of kitchen. Therefore, use it or leave it for my rom and I don't normally fulfill user's request except bug fix.

I have a high paid full time job and it never worth my time to cook roms for donation.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Oms:
I believe that there's competition between the main chefs... which might create an urgency to release new roms/updates.

I am not saying that the competition definitely affects the queality of rom...

...but I can't help but wonder whether the race to release them might have affected the quality somwhat.

Regardless, by Xperia is a lot more finger friendly since I've been flashing... but I agree that buggy roms can be frustrating at times.

I personally would pay good money for a fast, reliable rom...

...so perhaps a good incentive for the chefs to release such roms could be regular ££££, rather than random donations.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] smaberg:
i personally think that the roms today being released are "almost perfect" and the 6.5 ROMs out there are also very good, but when it comes to bugs its all up to what you installed and the main thing to REMEMBER is " flash ROM into different devices, lets say 10 machines with the SAME rom and you WILL get different resault"

ALL the CHEFS here deserves CREDIT for the TIME and effort spent here! i admire them!

-THE BEST ROM IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER... :D
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Oms:
To be honest... I haven't flashed for a long time, so I have no idea how much better they are than two months ago.

I can't complain at all though - I have used many good roms for FREE (especially yours!!) :)... but I'm still willing to pay a premuim for an off the shelf complete rom - 'install and forget' sort of thing.

That said, all of us have different expectations of a rom! Ideally I'd make one for myself... but I'm simply not intelligent enough to even try...

...hece my fascination and appreciation for all of the chefs out there.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] james_2k:
agreed.

a lot of them ram it in your face that they want donations.. im sure they would sell the roms if it was legal
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] shingers5:
if i was refering to you i would have said so. you were one of the few that actually bug tested prior to release and i admired that! when i tried your full 3.2 rom i loved it. it had everything i wanted and more! thats why i donated end off! i will always be a fan of your work but most of the others are dropping things out there that should not see the light of day! some don't even know how to bug fix but donation link is in bold! when i hooked up with WC it was good for me to help me learn and for those you have tried his work as he bug fixes prior to release. that way people see the effort being made prior to releasing! without people like itje releasing new stuff all the time and guys like fards bug fixing then many roms would remain with those bugs. i admire itje's bravery but not his attitude! when you take money off people you cannot adopt such a stand offish attitude. people will not accept this thus the current backlash in his thread right now from certain people. some people who have been on xda longer than others feel that they have the right to flame people for expressing themselves and that i hate! if a man chooses to try your rom then be prepared for what he may say! on the other hand i don't see why someone has to start a single thread to chat bout bugs! how does this help us move forward? x1 forum is turning into a cry baby nursery where kids don't get what they want so they moan! i try a rom, it don't deliver, i don't use again end off! i state my problems in thread i get flamed so stick 2 fingers up at that cook! simple............... thats me don't take **** from anyone. respect is earned and some people need to realise that to rise about a negative comment and come back even stronger is a sign of maturity! don't spit your dummy out just come back fighting! :cool:
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] wazaaappp:
this is bull**** how can you claim for something you aren't paying!!!!!!!!!!! custom roms have been realeased for our well being and I've been testing one by one and through the time, it's been a hugeeeeee advance.. ohhhh yeaaH ! :cool:
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] agent_47:
if only ppl would see that.....but hey its a free world!!!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ddutchie:
wasnt it WildChild who said

"These rom's are done solely for my pleasure,no donations (monetary no,help yes)are excepted."

what a Legend
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] james_2k:
i hope he said 'accepted' or it means the opposite :)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] BartOtten:
I disagree,

Having used Touch-IT for a long time and now using Smabergs Touch X 10.1 ULTIMATE X-TREME I am really pleased with the stability and functioning of the ROMs. I like the fact that there are so many targets for the ROMs. One is battery-friendly while another is cooked for 'show'.

Never forget that the forums are made for developers to exchange information and expertise. We can only be glad that they allow us to use the products of their effort.

Regards,

me
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Jonny4911:
can't believe there's even a thread for this...
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] m1le5:
Agreed. This should be deleted. Next we should start a poll on whether any other free stuff is crappy. Sunshine. Spotify. Youtube. They are all crappy now.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] yahya.hamid:
Give me a break.

You know after reading your comments, I now completely agree with the fact that you cannot argue with idiots and you cant meet their expectations.

ALL OF THE ROMS ARE GREAT.

However, if non technical people like you use a ROM and load it with ton s of crap incompatible software assuming everythign will work. Well guess what.....it wont.

So unless you try ROMS according to the standard procedure, and use good required software, you ar ebound to get crap. As they say, garbage in garbage out.

You remind me of an indian three wheeler....which sucks a lot of diesel but cannot go beyond 30.

Good luck
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] agent_47:
hahaha @ wheeler....and they make a LOT of noise...sepecially the three stroke ones.....i remember those days....we had them in my country too!!

and also....he is aparently a beta tester of some sort.....something i read...cant remember......

PS; i no its really weird of me to com n read this thread but it gives me amusement!!!!