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[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Geniusdog254:
No one is for sure yet. It hasn't worked in the leaked versions, even the shipped ones, so we won't know for sure until it is released in the UK on August 15th.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] joemax:
Bluetooth PAN should work as long as the Hero advertises itself correctly over Bluetooth.

Well that's the hopeful theory ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Geniusdog254:
That is currently a no-go as well. The Hero (device, not ROM) hasn't been rooted yet & Android throws a fit if you try to listen to the BT socket without root access. That's why the current BT tether apps for the Dream/Magic require root. Even the OBEX app BlueX in the market requires root to recieve files (but can send without root).

Sorry lol, I wan't it too.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] joemax:
Ouch... well thx for the heads up on that... I think ;)

mmm... hopefully a solution will emerge either via BT or USB. But then the telco's are getting smart to the fact that people use their contracted and allowable (ie payed for) unlimited internet (I'm on an unlimited data Orange plan since my old Touch Diamond) do do a very bad thing...

Use it to transfer data :rolleyes:
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] whitealien:
It will be available in France from 22Jul09 :p
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] ModdoG:
Same here,in the Netherlands 21 or 22 juli
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] whitealien:
But, the worth is that there are no single carrier who offers this phone and we are 1 day before official launch in EU!!! :eek:

Its available for preorder only in one shop for whole country for flat price of 500E, yay :(

unbelievable
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Geniusdog254:
Haha I've changed that release date so many times based on several different sites. That is the date on amazon.co.uk but I know carriers in some places are getting them earlier. Sorry lol. So whoever gets one, is the "Mobile Network Sharing" option enabled in settings?
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] trepaulo:
In the netherlands they gave 75 away for free :)

I got one

will be delivered next week ^_^
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] christonge:
Has anyone got the Mobile network sharing option working??? I can't get my laptop recognise the device in this mode...
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Volker1:
I can confirm that the built-in usb tethering works on the Hero.

1) Plug in usb

2) Home screen -> Menu -> Settings -> Wireless controls -> Mobile network sharing

Your computer now sees a usb network adapter; The hero runs a dhcp server, so you can get all network settings from there. On my laptop (running Fedora linux) I did not have to do anything, NetworkManager automatically detected the new device and set up networking. I don't have a mac, but I assume it would work automatically as well.

PS: I bought my Hero from http://www.handtec.co.uk without contract. I'm using a 3 Ireland mobile broadband sim.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] christonge:
That's excellent news! I'm running Windows 7 so I suppose it's just a driver issue. I will keep trying.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] veejayjameson:
Will this flag up with the provider? on t-mobile 3gb mobile internet per month.. you have to pay alot more for mobile broadband so dont want to use this then find on my bill theyv charged for tethering?

On winMo third party apps never flagged up however I fear this app seems more regulated?

Thoughts?
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] nicelad_uk:
It shouldn't do no, you are still dialing to their network in the same way you would on your phone, just there is a link for your computer to access that network.

I used the 3gb web and walk for 18 months and had a program on my winmo device called WMWifiRouter which did the same kind of thing (and Joikuspot on my Symbian) and used my laptop via my phone, never any issues!
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] veejayjameson:
yer had exactly the same apps as you mate. although wasn't happy when WMwifi became shareware :(

Just the fact this is prebuilt into the phone. Surely tmo won't have missed that?
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] christonge:
OK got this thing working with Windows 7 32bit with the drivers for 64bit posted by Donge900 (thanks mate) on the HTC Sync thread here... http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4246028&postcount=19

Working perfectly!!! Happy man :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] NisseGurra:
Win 7 32 bit let me install the 64 htc drivers.. Any tip how to succeed?
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] christonge:
As I posted on the other thread...

Very easy just install the HTC Sync program first. When your Hero isn't recognised as a modem and your computer fails to install drivers, just good to control panel on your PC and look for Device Manager. There you will find the unrecognised device, right click and click update driver software. Then click Browse my computer for software and point to the folder with the 64bit drivers... it will install and your Hero will be recognised as a RNDIS modem ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] NisseGurra:
No luck, even with all the HTCs driver removed windows install Hero as usb device. It uses windows own drivers and wont let me change them... Pitty that HTC don't have real software staff to do a simple thing as proper software for syncing :(
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] kgb_swe:
This worked for me on Vista 32bit.

1. Install HTC Sync as administrator - reboot

2. plug in Hero with USB

3. go to device driver and locate the Hero and choose update driver

4. go to the USB driver location:

C:\Program Files\HTC\HTC Driver\Driver Files\Vista_x86

5: install

Voila! USB Tethering works!
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] veejayjameson:
This sort of just summarizes the post above but with a few screenshots..

http://blog.brightpointuk.co.uk/using-htc-hero-usb-modem
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Ilmehtar:
For those who don't like Windows, I can confirm that the Hero's Tethering appears to work without any special drivers or configuration on most Linux distributions. It appears as a new USB Ethernet device, normally USB0 or USB1.

Interestingly, the Tethering doesn't need to use your Network Data connection.

If Wifi is enabled, your tethered device will use your Hero's wifi connection. However, if you disable your Network Data connection, you will not be able to turn on Network connection sharing in the Hero's settings.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] frymaster.127:
for be on vista64 , all I did was install the sync program, and then at some point afterwards enable sharing. i didn't realise at the time that the sync program had drivers for that (i thought it was only for the, er, syncing ;) ) so I didn't pay too much attention.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] sdc77:
Well

I have an unlocked HERO

The sync works fine (its different to windows activ sync but i wouldnt have expected it to be the same.)

The tethering/router issue works fine also.

In fact .. its another thing I dont have to complain about with this Hero..

... Ill find something wrong with it soon.. im sure i will.. i will.. :)

or maybe not :rolleyes:
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Alex~:
Has anyone tried USB tethering on a Mac yet? Tried it myself today but it didn't work out of the box. It came up as a new modem, which isn't quite right - it just came up as a USB ethernet device in Linux. :(

If anyone has got any insight into how to get it working then please reply! It would be nice to use this instead of loading AziLink or some other utility just to tether my laptop.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Volker1:
You mean it presents itself as a USB serial adapter with a modem to OSX? I find that very hard to believe.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Alex~:
Screenshot attached - excuse the JPEG.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Volker1:
So can you dial *99# and get internet access (depends on provider, but usually you don't need much more)? Or, failing that, can you fire up e.g. minicom and issue AT commands?
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] jallamalla:
Im having the same problems with HTC Heros tethering as Alex~...

Running OSX 10.5.8.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Alex~:
One of the first things I tried - it isn't a modem.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Matt Nicholls:
I'd be very interested to know if anyone finds a way to get this to work on a Mac.

I've got a G4 iBook and can't use any of the other tethering methods since the Android SDK (and the adb util in particular) isn't available for PowerPC.

Anyone?
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] joemax:
I too would love to know how to use the Hero as a modem for my Mac too.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] kribu:
*99# thing dosent help, i tried, no network connection.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Matt Nicholls:
I've been doing some research on this and *may* have found a solution. I should say, that I don't actually have a Hero myself (I'm waiting to find out if Mac tethering is possible - no point in taking the plunge if I'm going to lose features I currently enjoy with my admittedly ancient Nokia).

Quoting from http://docwiki.gumstix.org/Setting_up_USBnet#USBnet_on_Mac_OS_X:

"By default, Mac OS X 10.5.X prefers to use the CDC-ACM interface of USB networking devices instead of CDC-ECM with the exception of a broadcom network card. The result being a serial network interface instead of an ethernet network interface."​

This would certainly explain why Alex's hero is presenting itself as modem (ie a serial device) rather than an ethernet adapter. There's a patch available at: http://bugcommunity.com/wiki/index.php/Start_Guide_Mac_OS_X_10.5

I haven't tried it though, so I take no responsibility if you trash your Mac trying to get it work. I'd be interested to hear if it sorts things out, however.

Apparently this was only an issue from OS X 10.5 onwards, and 10.4 should behave correctly without needing to be patched. Since I'm still on Tiger myself, I'd be interested to know if you can indeed tether a Hero straight out of the box. Anyone?
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] joemax:
hmm, just tried using that patch and nothing changes, still can't coax the little blighter into opening a data connection at all.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Alex~:
Tried all that stuff before, no luck so far.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] wouwout:
tried it, didn't solve the tethering problem. And now: how to uninstall this 'fix'?
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] mmitar:
The problem is that you need RNDIS support and not CMC-ECM. And Mac OS X does not have official support for it (too strict license from MS to support it). But there are commercial solutions for it.

Somebody could also port Linux RNDIS driver. (On Linux tethering with HTC Hero works out of the box.) There is usb-rndis-lite to check for code. And Linux kernel itself has it too.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] joemax:
Snow Leopard handily removed it for me yesterday :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] joemax:
Interesting... I hope someone out there is able to do this for us poor Mac users ;)

Which commercial solutions were you referring to ? I've not been able to find anything for OS X that will allow me to tether my Hero.

cheers
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] mmitar:
I have not tested them (somebody can of course donate them to me), but I think those could work:

http://www.markspace.com/missingsync_windowsmobile.php (they say Internet sharing magically starts to work after you install it)

http://www.belcarra.com/ (they have made RNDIS driver for Mac OS X)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] joemax:
Thanks, will check it out.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] _KNT_:
Did any one tried http://code.google.com/p/dumb-android-tether/ ?

Does it work without rooting? Google doesn't say anything useful.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] joemax:
Does say its non-root Android tethering.

But relies on other stuff as explained in the Wiki.

No idea if this works on Hero though.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] _KNT_:
I've read the site's content. I was hoping for some practical insights.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] joemax:
So sorry, but you inferred that there was no info and questioned if it required rooting... I assumed from your post that you had not read the page in its entirety. :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] dinke:
HTC Hero USB Tethering on Mac

I am glad to say that I finally managed to do USB based tethering with my HTC Hero and MacBook Pro running on latest Snow Leopard. HTC hero is running the latest official HTC ROM plus I used azilink on hero and tunetap, openvpn2, android sdk and custom modem.sh script downloaded from here. I followed some of links from this site but none of those procedures didn't really work for me so had to make my own (after lot of trials and errors) :)

Complete tutorial is explained on my own blog here, but if anyone else have any question I will be glad to help here (or simple post comment on my blog).
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] joemax:
WoW :) Nice one thanks.

Will try this out when I have a little times.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] neff:
Help with Hero USB tethering with Linux (various varieties)

I've done some experiments with an Android WiFi tethering app but it's a little flaky. So research revealed that the HTC Hero has a built in option for network sharing via USB as has been discussed in this thread. So I did some experiments with 3 varieties of Linux to check if I could use my Hero with my Acer Aspire One netbook (SSD version)

With the stock Linpus OS there is no indication at all that there is a USB connection which is what I expected as Linpus doesn't even recognise ad-hoc wireless connections.

So I tried the live CD USB versions of Kuki, EasyPeasy and vanilla UNR 9.10

With Kuki I don't get any indication that there is a connection available; Kuki used wicd as a network manager.

The EasyPeasy distribution (which AFAIK is based on Ubuntu UNR) an entry does appear in the network manager labelled

Wire Network (High Tech Computer Androis Phone)

Auto usb0

But I can't actually connect - after clicking on it the icon shows activity for a while and then gives a message "Wired Network Disconnected".

UNR 9.10 (unsuprisingly) show the same behaviour as EasyPeasy.

Can anyone suggest why I can't connect? Is there some other Linux configuration I need to do?
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Piercy0812:
A friend of mine has worked out a cleverish way to do internet connectivity without tethering. Theres an app on the market where you can use your phone as a proxy server. So he setup that on the phone and then setup his pc to follow suit. Ofcourse this allowed him internet when his internet was down however it didnt allow him to use it when he didnt have a router.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] THE GRIZZ:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=530710

some are reporting/claiming some insane performance boosts (upto %1200) in that thread. did any of you test it ? if so did you experience any "real world" performance jumps

im interested in our cookers (itje, udk, agent47, fards, nrg....etc ) opinions on this
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] souljaboy:
this too ("only" 500% here)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=499679
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] THE GRIZZ:
seems that many believe that the two solutions above are a "hoax" just because the real performance is less than the crazy claims in topic name

the fact of the matter is that our x1 is slow and unresponsive especially in many cases. if we can get any increase

i don't really care if the real increase is much much much less than the claimed %500 or %1200 numbers. if we can get extra %20 noticeable performance increase then we should be thankful
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] THE GRIZZ:
no one is working on or testing this?!!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] agent_47:
this is a very good option IF u are making a lite ROM. none of the cooks u mentions do that :p...if ur interested i can make that but i cant garrenty it will work like it should
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] m1le5:
yeah it sounds fairly feasible...try it!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] THE GRIZZ:
im sure many are interested. please cook something for the hungry flashaholics

seems a new version is out already
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] THE GRIZZ:
is it cooking? maybe if it goes really well you might consider making your xperio builds with it since its lighter
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] killerskincanoe:
BUMP... gtrab's barebone rom's would be PERFECT for this.. imo... if i'm reading it right *scratches head* ... i'd still like to see any and all batt perf mods tested fully on x1.. currently on my r3.61 rom BATT life is amazing i'm getting nearly a day and a half outa my phone where prior i was only getting llike 9-11 hrs
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] killerskincanoe:
damn less than 12 hrs later.. and ur already on page 2.. so much for a bump!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ShaDrac:
Hi,

In probably 3 to 4 hours Extendir v1.05 will be released, which will run great and stable on the X1! :)

For those who can't wait the Test14 build in the Extendir thread will be released as Extendir v1.05

The Test14 comes only with a 4MB and 8MB cache version but with the release of Extendir v1.05 there also will be more cache sizes

Extendir boost lite and full roms but full roms can benefit more if they are installed in an Extendir directory (the virtual alias part) since full roms have more files. :)

I think you all will enjoy! :)

ShaDrac
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] jackleung:
Hi ShaDrac, based on my understanding so far, the main feature of your driver is to create a alias directory such that files that must be under /Windows (e.g. TF3D) could reside elsewhere. Since files stored as rom files under /Windows already optimized (compared w/ non rom files), so the real benefit I see is lite rom (instead of full rom) users who need to install programs/files under /Windows afterward. Can you comment?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ShaDrac:
Hi jackleung,

The main feature of Extendir is to boost file system performance. :)

The bonus feature of Extendir is the ability to alias a file in the windows folder. With this ability you overcome one of the weaknesses of our current file systems.

But a cook or end user is free to use this feature or not.

To know how big the benefit is, is easy, just try it. :D

But to give you a global idea:

If a rom has 1000 files cooked in, the files system performance is normal (of the IMGFS).

If a rom has 4000 files cooked in, the files system performance is slower(of the IMGFS).

If a phone has 1000 files installed afterwards, the files system performance with Extendir is fast (of the FATFS).

If a phone has 4000 files or even 40000 files installed afterwards, the files system performance with Extendir is still fast (of the FATFS).

So Extendir boost your file system performance and (thanks to the bonus feature) keeps it fast even if there are a lot of files installed.

So Extendir boost lite and full roms,

But full roms can benefit more if they install there files in an Extendir directory (the virtual alias part) since full roms have more files. :)

I think you all will enjoy! :)

ShaDrac
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] THE GRIZZ:
jack are you planning to do a public test rom that uses this?

for some odd reason many cooks are not interested in this
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] creamy:
I'd love to see this thing in action if it does what it says.

Have been following both threads and the benchmarks look phenominal, we only need one person to try it and the resulting ROM will indeed speak for itself.

Hehe you never know Grizz, it may make your camera faster ;)

Regards,

Creamy-Goodness
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] bassam:
Thanks ShaDrac this is music to my ears, will try to do a test
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] agent_47:
i tried it....it don boot :S
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] m1le5:
PLEASE TRY WITH THIS DLL!!! The claims have stood up on other devices, and the new version would work hopefully with different cache sizes! http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=526618 this guy seems to have it working with good results from the look of his feedback, and it means cooking stuff in again! Extendir + Leo = lush rom methinks!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ShaDrac:
Hi agent_47,

One of your fans is begging to get Extendir working on your roms! ;)

Need some help?

Please could you post your boot.rgu, then I will have a look at it?

ShaDrac
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] THE GRIZZ:
hope agent_47 sorts out his issues with this. a new 1.06 is out.

anybody else making a rom with this? if so please share
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] THE GRIZZ:
no one? somebody? anybody
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] qq108108108:
I have done it a long time ago,but I only made CHS rom,so IF you have WWE rom kitchen,I can help you implement extendir.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] joecruz:
qq108108108 so did it work? I mean was there a noticeable speed change when you implemented extendir? I can give you a link to my kitchen and perhaps you could implement and i will test...
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] qq108108108:
It works,and you can find a noticeable change in file system index,up to 3X faster.but I can't tell there's a significant improvement in my daily use.maybe you can find out.just PM me the link of your kitchen.

by the way,which kind of your kitchen?old style kitchen or Ervius Visual Kitchen?I am using old style kitchen now.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] THE GRIZZ:
sorry to bug you qq108108107, but can you answer the following:

1-any improvement in applications loading time?

2-any noticeable improvement rom boot time

3-any improvement in multi tasking performance especially when jumping between applications?

4- was your rom a lite or full one

5-did you use the latest 1.06 as it says that it added additional performance boost

6-is there and real world usage in the improvement of the file system index(%300 in your case)

7-overall would you recommend it as an essential tool when cooking roms. do you think we are all missing out for not having it in any of our publicly available roms
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] chalid:
I cooked extendir into my ROM today, and did benchmarks (SPB Benchmark, Test OpenGL) with and without extendir. The differences are minimal. But what stands out is, the much better performance of the X1 compared to the Touch HD.

See attachement.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] THE GRIZZ:
quite disappointing, maybe shadrac has something to say about that

not sure i understood the part about the HD. my xperia has always been noticeably slower than the hd in almost anything (most probably because of the 400mhz on x1 vs. 528mhz on hd)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] chalid:
Touch HD and X1 have the same Chipset, both with 528MHZ. On the other side, there is definitely a speedup with the filesystem at the X1. Check out the benchmarks of the Touch HD: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=516190
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] jo3n:
if that is correct chalid, that's very shocking.. x1 is 20% faster =/? does anybody know why than? now i'm kind of curious
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] THE GRIZZ:
chalid, can i assume that overall you find extendir unnecessary?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ShaDrac:
Hi chalid,

Did you test with Preset Installer if Extendir was working? (place Preset Installer at \Storage Card\Extendir\PresetInstaller.exe)

Because when I look at those numbers and compare them with the results from a Diamond, Raphael, Kaiser, Blackstone, etc. then you would have with spb at least an

22ms Read 1 MB file (LESS IS BETTER)

120ms Directory list of 2000 files (LESS IS BETTER)

By those two numbers you can recognize an Extendir rom.

I think an X1 with Extendir, based on your benchmarks, would also have an:

2500 Write 10KB x 100 files (LESS IS BETTER)

140 Read 10 KB x 100 files (LESS IS BETTER)

2200 Copy 10 KB x 100 files (LESS IS BETTER)

Test it yourself, if Preset Installer says you have an Extendir enabled device, you probably have those numbers with spb benchmark.

Enjoy! :)

ShaDrac
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] chalid:
Ok, will check again later ... :-)