yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] geeurweird:
Oh yea? With the < 3 hour battery life? No multi-tasking? Don't like referencing any information on your iPhone while making a call? You like being locked dead into that calling screen? You don't like multi-tasking... ever? Never ever wanna do things like surfing the web while on IM+, sending and recieving youtube links to your buddies via AIM, GoogleIM, MSN messenger with a word pad or notepad docunent open to take notes? You're all that happy with iTunes? Don't like being able to read/write, UL/DL, or stream your files wirelessly from your network shares? Prefer not being able to watch virtually any movie format, listen to virtually any audio format without conversion? Would rather not be allowed share your phones internet connection with your laptop via usb, bt or wifi?

Well just wait a couple of month until fennec aka firefox mobile comes out with full flash 10 support and custom plug-ins.

The market is just beginning to catch up with the Athena, the original iPad/Dell Mini 5/Kindle killer.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] fortissimo:
It is Windows Phone 7, there will be no WM7 if you mean Windows Mobile 7. And I doubt if Windows Phone 7 can be ported easily to the Athena is there is very little we know about WP7, but WP7 is a very different beast, from inside to the outside, unlike WM / CE.

I also love my iPhone 3G, and I still can't decide if I should sell my Athena or not. But I use my iPhone daily, and my Athena is left around, only got to be played with from time to time.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] sebastjan_b:
I agree. I also own both devices because x7500 has big screen and iphone is a PHONE not portable office but can also do a lot of things.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] fortissimo:
I wasn't thinking of getting rid of the Athena until I bought my MID, a BenQ S6, which is a similar form factor device (but very different outside and inside), and I just have to justify having both. The MID is fairly inexpensive, while the Athena was expensive and I'll loose quite a bit if I sell it. But the biggest thing is that there is no longer any killer app that I cannot replace them on the MID (runs XP), and the iPhone together. One would not be able to replace the WM completely, but a combo of XP and iPhone OS, then they can do it together. That's why I can't actively use the Athena these days.
[P3400 ROM Development] jyot:
this is my rom for NEW GENE

its still under construction cause of some bugs...

i am postin the screen shots

plzz advise me changes:)

INFO

PROGRAM MEMORY:20-23(on start up)and 15-17MB

STORAGE MAEMORY:43 MB

ROM w/o Manilla FOR NEW GENE:

http://rapidshare.com/files/249946298/ruu_signed.nbh

mirror1-http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8LL07RH3

ROM with Manilla FOR NEW GENE-

http://rapidshare.com/files/252887099/jyotzBlackEditionv1WIThMANILLA.7z
[P3400 ROM Development] karan999:
really looking forward to it :)

great work :)

just request to post a bigger screen shot ;)

Using

BesFen's Manila 2D WM 6.5 21815

for new gene.

With an Kingston

8GB

SDHC Storage card.:cool::cool::cool:
[P3400 ROM Development] vaibhav_batra_the_techguy:
screen shot is too small

pls provide at least qvga screen shots
[P3400 ROM Development] nipun_cse:
nice, keep going...
[P3400 ROM Development] jyot:
@all thanks

BIG SCREN SHOT UPLOADED​
[P3400 ROM Development] vaibhav_batra_the_techguy:
looking cool

but pls post some larger screen shots as i said at least QVGA
[P3400 ROM Development] shail00:
Good...here comes the new cooker....good.....

waiting to test the new ROM
[P3400 ROM Development] vaibhav_batra_the_techguy:
i think his computer is the cooker and he is the chef :D
[P3400 ROM Development] Xumit:
Sounds Good. ;)
[P3400 ROM Development] jyot:
i will upload by this weekend and try to make it perfect

there are some problems with the theme

the theme(showed in screen shoots) doesnt get installed

its in the package but cant use it

but if i instal it from a cab later on it doesnt effect the internal storage

so if u want i can upload the ROM and provide u the theme cab

rest is working great!!

ALSO SHOULD I COOK MANILLA IN THIS ROM??
[P3400 ROM Development] BesFen:
Good News, One cooker again, keep up the good work.
[P3400 ROM Development] jyot:
@besfen

its all cause of ur awesome tool :D

thanks a lot
[P3400 ROM Development] BesFen:
That good information, 79 times the tool was downloded, and only 2 person (including you) reported work, ha..ha..ha.. Others I don't know.

Thank you.
[P3400 ROM Development] karan999:
First of all Great work Jyot!!!:cool:

we all would love to use manila 2d in this rom integrated.its a clear yes from me;););)

but kindly make a note of all the tabs in manila(specially music tab the new one from Jade rom) works absolutely fine.and don't forget to install advance task manager 2 :)

A few suggestions:

S2P is an awesome music application which i feel EVERYONE USES...its not a demand from me to be precise.but would love it if its integrated in the rom :)

Plus SLICK is a very good ppc mobile messenger.(my last suggestion:D:D)

honestly speaking...these 2 apps do not take much space and are WORTH to use.After all its your descision.do not make a rom too heavy.it would be good if u integrate EZinput keyboards too in the rom...they are a headache to install seperately.

View attachment 199117

do reply. :) :) :)

Using

BesFen's Manila 2D WM 6.5 21815

for new gene.

With an Kingston

8GB

SDHC Storage card.:cool::cool::cool:

My previous rom(using alternately too;))

Thanks to Sumit

for his Sumit's VanillaManila Ultimate ROM v3.1.1 (build 21046)

Links to my best enjoyed cabs on gene :

Rapidshare link :

http://rapidshare.com/files/24773697..._Cabs.rar.html

Megaupload link:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R6D4JEJW
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
I actually see no reason to include these apps in the ROM. I personally feel that all that can be installed out of phone memory should not be included in ROM and all these apps can be. Thats strictly wasting the phone memory which is needed for many more purposes anyways.

And as for the instant messenger, i guess Palringo is also a good option.
[P3400 ROM Development] BesFen:
Agree with you, palringo is the best IM for me.

IM+ is good also, but it is not freeware, and because of it's not freeware the rank down from best to good for me...:D:D
[P3400 ROM Development] karan999:
True...but the best part is...even if the app is coocked in the rom it wont run in the background and make the gene slow.

on the contrary i still feel we can add it in our roms.

palringo is really a good messenger.agreed now after using slick n getting errors.:D:D:D

thanks Sumit. :)

Using

BesFen's Manila 2D WM 6.5 21815

for new gene.

With an Kingston

8GB

SDHC Storage card.:cool::cool::cool:

My previous rom(using alternately too;))

Thanks to Sumit

for his Sumit's VanillaManila Ultimate ROM v3.1.1 (build 21046)

Links to my best enjoyed cabs on gene :

Rapidshare link :

http://rapidshare.com/files/24773697..._Cabs.rar.html

Megaupload link:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R6D4JEJW
[P3400 ROM Development] besony:
Oh, and dont forget the OG ones here !!

I sincerely hope that you are not releasing only the NG version of it !!

Haww, that would be racist again !!

/kidding/

Please release a OG version of the same.
[P3400 ROM Development] jyot:
my ROM includes many features included in Sumits pro users rom

PLUS

:

>camera album

>full screen player

>touch response

>volume plugin

>HTC touch KEYBOARD + KEYPAD

>MANILLA DILAER

planning to ADD MANILLA 2D ,GOOD IM

please be free to suggest more changes
[P3400 ROM Development] karan999:
Really waiting for ur rom Jyot.GREAT GREAT JOB!!!;)

kindly go for S2P also..i hope its not that BIG to put it in a rom:D:D

Manila2d will always be an added oppertunity for everyone to use with wm6.5.

GREAT JOB MAN :)

Take your own sweet time.but kindly upload a fixed release:o

Using

BesFen's Manila 2D WM 6.5 21815

for new gene.

With an Kingston

8GB

SDHC Storage card.:cool::cool::cool:

My previous rom(using alternately too;))

Thanks to Sumit

for his Sumit's VanillaManila Ultimate ROM v3.1.1 (build 21046)

Links to my best enjoyed cabs on gene :

Rapidshare link :

http://rapidshare.com/files/24773697..._Cabs.rar.html

Megaupload link:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R6D4JEJW
[P3400 ROM Development] karan999:
Well..even Sumit is right.if your ROM is getting to heavy leave the applications...we can always install it afterwords.After all its your choice :) :) :)

Using

BesFen's Manila 2D WM 6.5 21815

for new gene.

With an Kingston

8GB

SDHC Storage card.:cool::cool::cool:

My previous rom(using alternately too;))

Thanks to Sumit

for his Sumit's VanillaManila Ultimate ROM v3.1.1 (build 21046)

Links to my best enjoyed cabs on gene :

Rapidshare link :

http://rapidshare.com/files/24773697..._Cabs.rar.html

Megaupload link:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R6D4JEJW
[P3400 ROM Development] jyot:
@karan

i may install MANILLA but cant confirm u S2P...but if i get time i will COOK a ROM specially for you :cool:
[P3400 ROM Development] karan999:
thanks alot for your reply :)

just wanted to know which method are u using to cook a rom.

im using BesFens tools to cook.getting wrrors everytime.if u finding it safe.kindly upload the tools again...

if we add our own app in the OEM folder do we have to modify the sys n xip too???

Using

BesFen's Manila 2D WM 6.5 21815

for new gene.

With an Kingston

8GB

SDHC Storage card.:cool::cool::cool:

My previous rom(using alternately too;))

Thanks to Sumit

for his Sumit's VanillaManila Ultimate ROM v3.1.1 (build 21046)

Links to my best enjoyed cabs on gene :

Rapidshare link :

http://rapidshare.com/files/24773697..._Cabs.rar.html

Megaupload link:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R6D4JEJW
[P3400 ROM Development] jyot:
This tool gives error when the same file exists more than 1 time.this generally happens when we add many similar kind of packages in the rom.

Also i dont think we need to change anything in xip to add packages but i feel you should consult the gurus.
[P3400 ROM Development] karan999:
1 suggestion :

remove the finger friendly sound control.it runs in the background and takes a lot of ram...

plus with manila this wont be cool to cook if u want more free ram with manila :)

kindly correct me if im wrong. :)

Using

BesFen's Manila 2D WM 6.5 21815

for new gene.

With an Kingston

8GB

SDHC Storage card.:cool::cool::cool:

My previous rom(using alternately too;))

Thanks to Sumit

for his Sumit's VanillaManila Ultimate ROM v3.1.1 (build 21046)

Links to my best enjoyed cabs on gene :

Rapidshare link :

http://rapidshare.com/files/24773697..._Cabs.rar.html

Megaupload link:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R6D4JEJW
[P3400 ROM Development] amolji:
Jyot me w8ing for ur rom plz do it asap!!! lets see:P
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
There is no problem with the tool. Thats something you need to take care of as being a cook. Cooking isn't just about taking packages and hit the build button. You have to take care of issues like these, duplicate file issues, registry settings, initflashfile.txt related issues, provxml issues. Its all part of the game :)
[P3400 ROM Development] ramersonw:
I agree with Sumit, cook is not an easy task, especially if you add alot of things. My advice for someone who wants to build your rom is: make your rom as clean as possible. At least until you know how to use well the tools.
[P3400 ROM Development] vaibhav_batra_the_techguy:
i think u should use something like this to check and remove duplicate files
[P3400 ROM Development] jyot:
Guys sorry for late reply

actually am off to delhi
[P3400 ROM Development] rahul_c_o_ol:
Well, I would suggest you to release two version of your ROM i.e. with Manila 2D & without Manila 2D, only if it is convenient for you!!!!

Because many people here like it with Manila and some would love to have it without Manila.

Keep up the good work;)
[P3400 ROM Development] karan999:
This would be a really good idea and would give all us gene users a choice to choose a rom :)

but do not forget to release the rom with manila2d:D:D:D as u know other users like me are dying to use the wm6.5 rom with manila.BesFen's new wm6.5 with manila has very good battery life and is very stable(apart from some minor bugs which will be definetly fixed in the upcoming release:))

but im really looking forward to see what LATEST u are coming with.:):):)

I really respect ur work Jyot.;)

Best of Luck.:cool:

Using

BesFen's Manila 2D WM 6.5 21815

for new gene.

With an Kingston

8GB

SDHC Storage card.:cool::cool::cool:

My previous rom(using alternately too;))

Thanks to Sumit

for his Sumit's VanillaManila Ultimate ROM v3.1.1 (build 21046)

Links to my best enjoyed cabs on gene :

Rapidshare link :

http://rapidshare.com/files/24773697..._Cabs.rar.html

Megaupload link:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R6D4JEJW
[P3400 ROM Development] jyot:
i had already planned to make two builds of this ROM,i.e, WITH manila and W/O Manila
[P3400 ROM Development] jyot:
the theme(showed in screen shoots) doesnt get installed.

its in the package but cant use it

but if i instal it from a cab later on it doesnt effect the internal storage

so if u want i can upload the ROM and provide u the theme cab

:) PLEASE REPLY :)
[P3400 ROM Development] karan999:
thanks Jyot :)

Best of luck!!!

Using

BesFen's Manila 2D WM 6.5 21815(NEW KITCHEN)

for new gene.

With an Kingston

8GB

SDHC Storage card.:cool::cool::cool:

My previous rom(using alternately too;))

Thanks to Sumit

for his Sumit's VanillaManila Ultimate ROM v3.1.1 (build 21046)

Links to my best enjoyed cabs on gene :

Rapidshare link :

http://rapidshare.com/files/24773697..._Cabs.rar.html

Megaupload link:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R6D4JEJW
[P3400 ROM Development] karan999:
Sure Jyot we can always install the cab later on :)

Great going.

Using

BesFen's Manila 2D WM 6.5 21815(NEW KITCHEN)

for new gene.

With an Kingston

8GB

SDHC Storage card.:cool::cool::cool:

My previous rom(using alternately too;))

Thanks to Sumit

for his Sumit's VanillaManila Ultimate ROM v3.1.1 (build 21046)

Links to my best enjoyed cabs on gene :

Rapidshare link :

http://rapidshare.com/files/24773697..._Cabs.rar.html

Megaupload link:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R6D4JEJW
[P3400 ROM Development] jyot:
uploading

CURRENTLY UPLOADING ROM w/o Manilla FOR NEW GENE​

will do others later on
[P3400 ROM Development] jyot:
ROM UPLOADED:cool:

​

http://rapidshare.com/files/249946298/ruu_signed.nbh​
[P3400 ROM Development] hbahaie:
Downloading....

Thank u very much
[P3400 ROM Development] karan999:
now waiting for manila one.

great one Jyot. :)

eager to use the one with manila...but will try this too n give u the feedback :)
[P3400 ROM Development] jyot:
ohkkk....

BUGS:

the camera and cleartemp.lnk do not get copied in the start menu folder.

JUST FIND the .lnk and copy it into STARTMENU>PROGRAMS
[P3400 ROM Development] karan999:
where is manila wm6.5 rom???????????

try to remove titanium from manila wm6.5 version rom...this will help increase ram and make it more stable. :) same as BesFen's rom . :)

we are still waiting for it jyot :) can u please upload the manila version faster.....im eagerly waiting :)

Using

BesFen's Manila 2D WM 6.5 21815(NEW KITCHEN)

for new gene.

With an Kingston

8GB

SDHC Storage card.:cool::cool::cool:

My previous rom(using alternately too;))

Thanks to Sumit

for his Sumit's VanillaManila Ultimate ROM v3.1.1 (build 21046)

Links to my best enjoyed cabs on gene :

Rapidshare link :

http://rapidshare.com/files/24773697..._Cabs.rar.html

Megaupload link:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R6D4JEJW
[P3400 ROM Development] jyot:
sorry for the delays...cause of ram and battery issues am working on it and removing unnecessary packages from it...so wait... :/ :confused:
[P3400 ROM Development] sweetashun:
waiting/......................:rolleyes:
[P3400 ROM Development] karan999:
why is the wait too long for the manilla version yaar.........

too long.... :(

Using

BesFen's Manila 2D WM 6.5 21815(NEW KITCHEN)

for new gene.

With an Kingston

8GB

SDHC Storage card.:cool::cool::cool:

My previous rom(using alternately too;))

Thanks to Sumit

for his Sumit's VanillaManila Ultimate ROM v3.1.1 (build 21046)

Links to my best enjoyed cabs on gene :

Rapidshare link :

http://rapidshare.com/files/24773697..._Cabs.rar.html

Megaupload link:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R6D4JEJW

[/QUOTE]
[P3400 ROM Development] jyot:
UPLOADED

​

ROM with Manilla FOR NEW GENE-http://rapidshare.com/files/252887099/jyotzBlackEditionv1WIThMANILLA.7z
[P3400 ROM Development] salim1001:
Hi Jyot

If not asking too much do you think you'll be able to create this ROM for Old Gene too...It would be great using this ROM

Thanks

Sam
[P3400 ROM Development] jyot:
i will try my best
[P3400 ROM Development] karan999:
thanks mannn...after a lonnnnnnggggg wait...finally... :)

GREAT...downloading now..will give u a reply :)
[P3400 ROM Development] karan999:
rom stuck on boot :(
[P3400 ROM Development] jyot:
do u hav a new or old gene
[P3400 ROM Development] karan999:
well im a new gene user. :)

okkk..after a long time boot successful...:cool:

For a start.the rom is fast.i liked the dialler.but again no calling key.we have to use our hardware keys.here are the bugs rather the improvements i wish u could really think upon for your next release.

BUGS :-:(

1) if u navigate to photos and videos tab i get this error."The file album researcher cannot be opened.it is not signed be a trusted certificate........so on."

2)no shortcut to htc album in start menu.

3)Search widget cannot be opened from the start menu.

4)Obex inbox not working.

5)no difference between touch keyboard and touch keypad.

6)free program ram even without installing anything is 15mb goes down to 10 mb within minutes.

basically the rom is too heavy.74MB!!!!!!:eek:

i suggest u to :

1)keep manila 2d for this rom as a stock interface.

2)keep the stock wm6.5 dialler or u can even use touchflo 2d dialler as u wish.

3)keep the stock keyboard or install the touch diamond EZinput keyboard.

5)i think there is a large memory leak due to great size of the ram.gwes.exe is grabbing more than 5mb and manila just on starting takes 4mb ram.

4)try to make the rom light.

5)if at all u save memory,u can always focus on adding third party apps like S2Por nitrogen,messengers.(don get too angry...i mean no one has listened to this(sumit always offends this :D )its just your wish.)

6)basically just try to make the rom as light as possible.;)

GREAT WORTK FOR A START THOUGH!!!

keep it up

.

we will be waiting for a good next fixed release :)

Using

jyotz WM6.5 BLACK EDITION WITH MANILA

for new gene.

With an Kingston

8GB

SDHC Storage card.:cool::cool::cool:

My previous rom(using alternately too;))

Thanks to Sumit

for his Sumit's VanillaManila Ultimate ROM v3.1.1 (build 21046)

Links to my best enjoyed cabs on gene :

Rapidshare link :

http://rapidshare.com/files/24773697..._Cabs.rar.html

Megaupload link:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R6D4JEJW
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
@karan: I dont get offended, i just think that as these apps can be installed on memory card, and as not every person likes them (including me) so its not so important to put them on a ROM and waste space. I put only those things on ROM that are either quintessential or good but not installable on storage card. Putting those things in ROM saves space as we have either xpr or lzx compression on ROM filesystem.

BTW, the 5 MB for gwes.exe and 4 MB for Manilla is normal in WM 6.5.

@Jyot: Buddy, what is the page pool size you are using? I guess its too big, thats why you are getting so less space. Also, if you have included voice commands in your ROM, that will also be taking up space. It should be disabled after first start to get the real RAM count.

I would also strongly suggest you to use LZX compression, I am going to use it in all my future roms. There is no slowdown or battery problems at all with it, I have tested it extensively. And remember to use the right version of cecompr.dll in xip and cecompr_nt.dll in your kitchen to get optimum results.

Also, the albumsearcher.exe that karan is talking about is not present in the jade build, take it from an earlier build of manilla. One taken from Opal has it. The shortcut to htc album can be copied by creating a initflashfiles.txt file for the package.

Widgets are hosted by riahost.exe (rich internet applications host) present in WMWidgets package and it is directly dependent on the new IE so check for thse packages. Widgets wont work with older IE builds.

And for keyboard, use the cab provided by someone in the middle of the ezinput 2 qvga thread to create an OEM. He has removed all the extra files from it (t9 and all) and the result is a much smaller cab (2 or 3 MB as opposed to 6 MB of original). With a little bit of tweaking in registry file (you'll have to remove the extries that register the keyboard service as well as the one that removes a tab from the Settings>Personal>Input>Word Completion Tab.
[P3400 ROM Development] jyot:
@karan...the camera album and manilla hav been fixed but will upload he rom later on due to less bandwidth

also the keyboard and keypad are different...bu in some areas of entering text its shows qwerty but while actually typing a sms u will get to kno the diff..

@krazy

thanks a LOT fr ur response...ur reply improves the standards of a thread... :P

will try to do wat u said...

thnx a lot
[P3400 ROM Development] jyot:
page pool=5mb
[P3400 ROM Development] karan999:
thanks alot for the camera album and manilla fix. :)

regarding the keyboard,i did check the keyboard while typing a message also.but still no difference.i also request u to put the digital clock(default manila one) for manila..offcourse that can be done by using M2DC.but still the digital one(like in BesFen's rom) is more impressive i feel.its just a suggestion.do follow sumit's advice for the pagepool and album researcher fix.

otherwise its a +1 for your rom.great work.just needs some fixes.

Also i request u to put in the default gene camera.as it is stable,no bluring(absolutely crystal clear).i guess even sumit will focus on this.the default gene camera is best suitable for a 2mp resolution.this will in turn help providing u more free ram. ;)

Best of luck.will keep on giving u a feedback.:)

hi sumit.hope u din feel bad on my posting.:o regarding the pagepool,im now back on BesFen's rom and here are the details ragarding ram consumption:

gwes.exe=4174kb

manilla2d.exe=4046kb.

and that too after a days use.i havent yet restarted my device.whereas in this case the readings above mentioned were from the first boot itself!!!

i read your post too..

i think the detailed advice u gave was well sufficient to eradicate all the problems

.:)

Using

BesFen's Manila 2D WM 6.5 21815 ROM(NEW KITCHEN)

for new gene.

With an Kingston

8GB

SDHC Storage card.:cool::cool::cool:

My previous rom(using alternately too;))

Thanks to Sumit

for his Sumit's VanillaManila Ultimate ROM v3.1.1 (build 21046)

Links to my best enjoyed cabs on gene :

Rapidshare link :

http://rapidshare.com/files/24773697..._Cabs.rar.html

Megaupload link:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R6D4JEJW
[P3400 ROM Development] siddhesh1609:
Manila Rom workd fine but while using a gprs connection it got hanged so had to soft reset d device!

wen i pressed reset button gene only showd 3 details(excluding OS version)on the startup screen n device was not responding! i hard reset d device n tried everything

den after half an hr wen i tried starting d device again it said sudden loss of power or some error n gave me 2 options continue or cancel

i continued n device took long time to boot!but it was successful boot!

i dnt knw whether dis has to do nythin wid ur rom or not but i just wanted to share dis experience!
[P3400 ROM Development] jyot:
thnx for telling me the bugs....i will try to make it better and better...and i guess SUMIT WILL TOO HELP ME.. :P :D :cool:

the power cut here is tooo long to cant spend much tym in cooking roms...so it might take a while..SORRY