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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zenkinz:
ok I finally get a decent performance and no album refresh bug after I do the following

1. modify boot.rgu such that cachefilter loads after extendir

2. ensure registry is set such that cachefilter loads after extendir

however, I experienced problem such as

1. storage card folder is found but when I go to the folder, the storage folder is empty.

2. afterawhile, the entire device is empty! (except storage folder)

looks like it's abit buggy. I'm sticking 1.06 beta for now
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bobsbbq:
I have the same problem no album refresh issue but on the first boot the storage card is blank, not recognized. After another soft reset it all works ok.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zenkinz:
did you get missing folders in device storage? Because I repeatedly get it after two soft reset. It usually happens after I run spbbenchmark but i think it's just coincident. surely there must be some bugs...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] twopumpchump:
im not using cachefilt.dll at all, so thats not what is slowing down my device. my album isnt refreshing on photo tab of manila either, but my sdcard did show on first boot and ran all my custumizations and all of my folders are showing in file explorer.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zenkinz:
the cachefilt compatibility might be the reason why I am experiencing problem.

just to confirm, you have no problem with album refresh issue?

and just fitter clarification, I do see the folders in storage card and/or device after every soft reset, including the first boot. the problem happens after awuile, maybe 10-20 mins after the reset, doesnt take too long for the foldrrs to dksappear. when the folders in device disappear, the storage folder and its folder contents are visible. when storage content is missing, the folders in my device, include storage card itself, are visible..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] twopumpchump:
i dont understand why you asked me that question, please read your post again i highlighted something for you :) ive had it flashed all day now and havent had any disappearing folders...why dont you just try deleting cachefilt and the reg and see if you still have the problem then go from there.

ps..@shadrak, i flashed back to the older test version just to make sure i wasnt imagining things. my benchmark was 167 pts higher and album refreshed pics as soon as i took them with camera, and windows folder opened in less than 1 second :) ready to test next version when you get it done.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zenkinz:
my bad.

I need cachfilter for album refresh and document tab though. so the option to run w/o cachfilter is not a solution, unless the new version of extendir could support the

two features mentioned. could it?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] BlackFriar:
My laptop died in an act of the devil, taking with it everything -- not sure what's worse, the last 6 months of doctoral research or the kitchens and optimized Sense and XIPs. When I'm done drinking, I'll try and get a kitchen up to test.

What subcategory (test) saw the loss? Just curious...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] epismax:
Ok, bug report.

On HTC Touch Diamond, a user can't write, delete item on moviNAND(Internal Storage)

making new folder is available, but with a error ('You can't make a folder, Access denied. blah blah...).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ShaDrac:
Thanks for all the feedback! :)

The bug when you take a picture, Album doesn't refresh it's current album (you have to switch albums to see the updates), I can reproduce it and I know how to solve it. :) (btw, manila does refresh correct on my HD2)

Hi twopumpchump,

On which categories is the latest test version faster/slower?

My HD2 has become a lot faster with the 10KB * 100 files write/copy.

For the Windows folder opening speed, I forgot to remove a line of debug code which made some extra checks... :o

Hi zenkinz & bobsbbq,

I only had this kind of problems in the beginning of Extendir V2 (a few months ago).

It was solved by using Task29 / Stock rom flash etc...

Do you still experience this strange behavior?

If so, could it be caused by some kind of ram cleaning tool?

Hi epismax,

Is this Diamond configured with cachefilt only on the 'Internal Storage' ('Storage Card') ?

If so, does the following folder exists on his Internal Storage:

'\Extendir\Config\VolumeName\Internal Storage'

ouch... :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] twopumpchump:
i should have saved the benchmark results, sorry i just looked at the overall score and not each individual result. i will benchmark again both versions and post screenshots of the results later today.

ps. my album will refresh when i take a new pic, just not the photo tab in manila...but when i go back to the older version the photo tab refreshes instantly.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] selyb:
I love that you guys are getting all this worked out :-)

I wish I had time to help but I am already overwhelmed with too many projects both in cyber world and IRL. Anyway, I am itching with excitement waiting for a final release
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zenkinz:
yes, that's what I meant as well when I was mentioning album refresh. It's really the photo tab, rather than the album itself (since day one)

strange, it didn't work for my HD2. :(

I can't test now, since weekend is almost over, and I can only test it next weekend. Does it have to do with the missing folder that you mentioned I should create in \Storage CArd\Extendir\Volume\something?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bobsbbq:
Thanks Shadrac I will try task 29.

Zenkinz, My manila album is working now without issue. As a matter of fact I have not noticed any thing except the first startup as I already posted about. I have been running this last flash for over 24 hours now and I have not seen any problem.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zenkinz:
damn... this is bad (that I'm the only one have the problem). Maybe I will do task29 next weekend and try.

Just to confirm, you have set the cachefilter only on sdmemory/fatfs, and you have its order after extendir?

One thing I recalled when I was testing v1.07 on my ROM. When I go to \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\<One of the Folder> folder, and copy and paste one of the shortcut, the start menu will not show the duplicate shortcut although in the file explorer i saw "copy of <shortcut name>". Then when I copy the shortcut, and paste it in the same folder as shortcut, I saw "shortcut to <shortchut name>" both in the file explorer and start menu, although in the file explorer, it shows the newly pasted shortcut as 0 byte.

Very strange ...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] makuu:
Yes, I am using v1.06 SYS version built on 5.2.23547, It works fine. So I tried to replace v1.06 module by v2 Beta1.07 but It doesn't boot get stuck at welcome screen.

I've never been able to use Xip version or v2 Beta1.06 SYS module version either.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] RoryB:
SPB Benchmark results v2b1.07, v2b1.06, v1.06, non-Extendir ROMs
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] twopumpchump:
here is a screenshot of the benchmarks of the older test compared to the newer one. the new one "feels" faster, and is faster in several categories i have highlighted the differences. the only place i could see that it was slower was directory list of 2000 files, i guess that is what is bringing the total score down. i think you have it this time, just fix album refresh, take out debug code so Windows folder will open fast, add the cache and upload it so we can test it :D

benchmark on left side is new test, right side is older test.

http://ponack.net/TPC/rhodium/extdir_benchmarks.PNG

ps..just want to clarify the problem i have isnt with album itself refreshing, its with the photo tab in manila. i can take a pic with older test and it refreshes photo tab instantly, but with the new test it wont refresh even if you restart manila. i have checked and album shows the pic instantly.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bobsbbq:
I'm with you on this one. I think with the album fix and code cleaned up it is Ready. I noticed very small latency in a couple of test but it feels faster. I also think it may be that before this version I had the cachefilt on all volumes to get around the document tab and start menu refresh issues. Now I have it back to only on the storage card so it is faster.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] RoryB:
WOW looking at your test results versus mine you can really tell how weak the old Wizard is.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zenkinz:
ok, I steal some time just now to build my rom using the latest com5 build, so I took the opportunity to mtty my device, this time round, the missing folders problem seems to have gone away (crossing my finger)

the phototab refresh problem is mitigated by applying cachfilt on sdmemory fatfs, (but have to set the order to be higher priority than extendir, although only in the reg not in the hive)

I assume the phototab refresh fix will enable us to do without cachfilt...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zenkinz:
my apology if I sounded like a whinning kid here.

The missing folder happened once since I last reported. This time round, the storage card folder has all the folders missing. But it did list out a list of subfolders in one of the missing folder. In other words, the directory listing somewhat screwed up. A soft reset solve the problem, eversince then, I've yet to see one but I suspect it'll come back again since the only reason that explains the anomaly is existence of a bug.

Next, I noticed that upon first boot (i.e. right after the setup/flash), any copy of files or folder into the device will not have the folder/file show up unless you do a refresh, or you navigate out and back into the folder. Copying to the storage has no problem probably because I've applied cachfilter on the storage card.

From 2nd reboot thereafter, the folder now refresh automatically, the problem now is that the copied file now show 0 byte in the file explorer. A refresh of the folder will correct the file size display though.

hopefully shadrac can fix the bug.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bobsbbq:
Wow, After doing Task 29 I have not had anymore problems with the missing Storage Card after flash on first boot. I don't have any refresh issues now.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zenkinz:
hmm. .. I did that as well (in fact, did a mtty instead of the task 29 via radio flash),

by missing storage card, do you mean the storage card does not appear in the file explorer, or the content in the storage card is missing? Mine is the latter. Do you have the file explorer refresh problem that I cited earlier? Did you have cachfilt applied to the storage card? What's the order of cachfilt if you did.

now, I notice a very consistent behaviour. the folders in the storage card will disappear every time after I run a backup task that tries to browse the storage card.

By coincidence or not, I deleted the application data folder in the storage card, and after two soft reset, the storage card now does not have missing cnotent anymore (until the next hard reset, the cycle repeats)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zenkinz:
bobsbbq,

I recalled that you had problem with Garmin XT previously. Are you still having that in 1.07?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bobsbbq:
I have not tried it to be honest. Been to busy with my Blog site. I will check it out later.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ShaDrac:
Hi zenkinz,

Thanks for your detailed feedback! :)

I'm able to reproduce it and I think I know how to fix it. :)

Hi makuu,

I hope your not stuck anymore in Paris!

When your stuck on the welcome screen is that the screen when you've got to touch the screen to get starting? (just before aligning the screen?)

Or is it the screen where you see the radio version/rom version/etc.

@all:

Thanks for the benchmarks! :)

ShaDrac
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zenkinz:
phew .. thanks for that!

Any idea what would cause the content of the storage card to disappear?

As I mentioned before, it happens each time after (sometimes at the same time) I tries to access the storage card to restore pim backup, or restoring cookie setting, xda_uc execution (where all the backup data/settings are in the storage card)

The disappearing content problem happens each time I hard reset. But strangely after a few soft resets (usually 3-4 times since I need to access the storage card a few times to restore my data/settings), the content in storage folder no longer disappear.

btw, Garmin is sluggish for me on v1.07. I'm not sure if its due to 1.07, or the difference in the driver order that matters.

using 1.06, extendir + cachefilt applied to all fatfs, order in boot hive is extendir then cachefilt, registry hive is cachefilt then extendir ==> garmin running ok

using 1.07, extendir applied to all fatfs, cachefilt applied to storage only, order in boot hive is extendir (all) then cachefilt (storage only), registry hive is cachefilt (storage onlyl) then extendir (all) => sluggish

definition of sluggish. the screen touch response is at least 1-2 sec. Before that, screen touch response is immediate.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] makuu:
Hi ShaDrac,

Still stuck in Paris, so either I can fly out next saturday to Majorca either I'll drive to the Netherlands and spent few days there ( your home country I guess).

My pda is stuck at welcome screen, it displays the welcomehead.192.png picture but can't display the usual text (Tap the screen to set up your Windows phone ....) before align screen.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] atischenko:
Extendir on my Blackstone

Hi, i have non bootable my HD. Hanged on splashscreen.

I'm using EVK, and put Extendir folder with extedir.dll to kitchen\ROM\Shared\21057\ then i've changed order and bootphase in boot.rgu

I've not cooked any EXT package and my operator_config is empty, into ROM i included only original OEM and SYS.

In this case without extendir my rom boot normaly.

Can anyone help me? See my boot.rgu in attachments.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zenkinz:
Hi Shadrac,

I hate eating my own words but I think I love this time round.

For the missing content, I had tried a few combination (such as excluding cachefilt in the boot.rgu, etc) to no avail. Almost giving up (as I've put back v1.06 to my ROM), I decided to do a task 29 once more, and this time round, cook my ROM to have only extendir (no cachefilt at all), and viola,

- no more missing content in sdcard or device

- photo tab refresh gone

so at least now I should be on the same page as you and bobsqq :o

the problem remains is the folder refresh bug (which you have identified), and the garmin sluggish performance.

For the latter, I have workaround though, basically if I run the same program in the storage card, I would not have any sluggish performance. I'm not sure what's the reason, since I didn't apply any additional filter on the storage card. So for now, I would just make sure the shortcut is pointing to QuePPC.exe in \Storage Card\Garmin\App folder, rather than \Garmin folder.

Now I can't wait for the cache version of extendir v2. I am going to donate a small token in support of your work! how can I do so?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] epismax:
I think it is ok. But... have you ever tried extendir without changing "BootPhase" to 1?

and... If you don't use DRM, I recommend to change orders, regs as below.

(Detele lsfilter.dll, lsomacore.dll, htcfsfilter.dll and restore orginal orders)

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\LSOMACORE]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Filters\LsFilter]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS\filters\HTCFSFILTER]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\IMGFS\filters\HTCFSFILTER]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS\Filters\CacheFilt]
"Order"=dword:2
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\FLASHDRV\FATFS\Filters\fsreplxfilt]
"Order"=dword:1
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\filters\Extendir]
"Order"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS\filters\Extendir]
"Order"=dword:0
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bobsbbq:
Did you remove the cachefilt.dll completely from the ROM? How is your Documents tab working? Or did you just put chachefilt on the storage card only in the boot.rgu?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zenkinz:
damn ... I know I missed something. I didn't put the cachefilt so Documents tab is not working :o:(

I'm going to put the cachefilt on document tab to see if the missing content comes back or not.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bobsbbq:
My Garmin is also sluggish. I forgot what I did last time to fix it. lol I think I had to change the order or something.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zenkinz:
I wonder what does Shadrac meant by this

I create the above folder in storage card, it doesn't seem to enable document reader.

I am hoping that the above is a workaround instead of having to apply the cachefilt.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ShaDrac:
Hi zenkinz,

To enable cachefilt only at the 'Storage Card', so you can enable the recent documents tab, do the following 2 things (on a HD2) :

Add the following lines to your boot.rgu and don't change these values later.

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\SDMemory\FatFS\Filters\CacheFilt]
"Dll"="CacheFilt.dll"
"Order"=dword:12

On your storage card create the folowing folders: '\Extendir\Config\VolumeName\Storage Card'

so the full path would look like: '\Storage Card\Extendir\Config\VolumeName\Storage Card'

And yes, this is only a workaround for a bug in cachefilt. :)

Enjoy! :)

ShaDrac

ps. :)

Donate a smile to a stranger. (Please, really do!) :cool:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zenkinz:
ok, it looks like I can't run away applying cachefilt on the sdcard, I've to do the following

1. in the boot.rgu, apply cachefilt on the sdcard. The order of both extendir and cachefilt are set to 0

2. create a separate package or use existing package, add the followinging to the app.reg

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS\Filters\Extendir]
"Order"=dword:00000099

now document reader will work. the photo tab refresh will work as well (if I don't do the step 2, it will not work)

I have encountered missing content in the sdcard folder twice with the above setting, but after taking out the sdcard and putting it back, I don't have the problem anymore, so I'm not sure if there's any correlation between the two.

Another point to note, I noticed that if I put cachefilt on all the fatfs, I will get junks repeatedly in the device (and the rest of folders will disappear). See attached.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zenkinz:
doesn't work. I did the above, and end up with the photo tab refresh problem. I have to do the other method (see my earlier post) in order to have both photo tab and document tab working.

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you are a good guy. :):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bobsbbq:
you are a good guy. :):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):)[/QUOTE]

Have you found a way to get Garmin working? I tried a couple of things but nothing works.

I really don't want to go back to 1.6
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zenkinz:
Have you found a way to get Garmin working? I tried a couple of things but nothing works.

I really don't want to go back to 1.6[/QUOTE]

workaround is to run it from the storage card. makes a hell lot of different, so I think the missing cache could be the reason (since storage card I've cachefilt enabled)

i ask my rom users to create a shortcut and point it to \Storage Card\Garmin\App\WM\QuePPC.exe
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bobsbbq:
workaround is to run it from the storage card. makes a hell lot of different, so I think the missing cache could be the reason (since storage card I've cachefilt enabled)

i ask my rom users to create a shortcut and point it to \Storage Card\Garmin\App\WM\QuePPC.exe[/QUOTE]

Thanks I made a cab with a Garmin Mobile XT shortcut link to go into my GPS folder. So this is a good workaround.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] erickwill:
Help please

Dear ShaDrac,

First of all, thanks for your great efforts to improve our devices performance and further collaborations.

I just wish some additional informations to start using the ExtendDir driver.. I just download the ExtendDir for imgfs that you uploaded for a user and I need to know if can I include it inside the SYS and after build the OS. Another question, using this ExtendDir for imgfs, should I change something inside XIP?

Please, any help in regarding this will be much appreciate.

Best Regards,

Erick
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zenkinz:
bobsbbq, are you still facing missing content in storage folder?

I'm still getting it, although it's not as frequent as before (which happens almost shortly after each soft reset)

I'm hoping that shaDrac has found the bug, as like you, I prefer not to go back to 1.6.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bobsbbq:
I have not had it in a while. I think after I did the Task29 it has only happened one right after flash.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zenkinz:
what's the order of your drivers?

cachefilt after extendir?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] YYYYY:
I´m using the attached version of Extendir and I don´t have any refresh issues (Album, File Explorer etc.) and SD Card problems, maybe you have luck with this version. This is my boot.rgu configuration:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zenkinz:
thanks, that's helpful. I don't have htfsfilter and fsreplfilt so maybe i will try that.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mondilv:
Graph test

Anybody explain, is it possible to increase graphic performance to?

Tried 1.6, 2.0 - every time FS results are going up, graphics - down.:(

At 2.0 it's not very critical, may before cache version.

Used VSBenchmark.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zenkinz:
no go. Looks like it also break the photo tab refresh functionality though. It's back to drawing board (maybe cook it into the boot.rgu instead of registry). But I am find it puzzing that it seems that only I have the problem :(

edit@: @YYYYY, what version of extendir were you using? I noticed the version of extendir.dll you've uploaded is smaller size than v2 beta 1.07. It looks like you are not using the latest beta version of extendir, which is the one that causes the missing content problem.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] YYYYY:
Hi,

yeah I have some issues with the latest beta and don´t have any benefits from it, that´s why I´m using an older version (I guess it´s 2.06) which runs almost flawlessly for me, just try my attached version with my boot.rgu, you will get for the very first time the HTC Album refresh issue as you go the the album tab, but after that the Album tab will run without any problems.

Edit: Btw. how does the Album problem exactly look like? Maybe we have different issues?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zenkinz:
for me, v1.07 makes alot of difference so I'm trying to find ways to resolve it.

Now, I applied HTFSfilter on sdmemory , the missing content seems to have occured only once, but after that, I don't encountered anymore. I'm hoping that others who do not have the problem with v1.07 could at least verify that's what they have experienced as well, or share their boots.rgu, but looks like folks have been inactive for the last few days :(

the album issue is really on the photo tab. take a photo, and exit the camera app, you will not have the new photo updated on the photo tab. If you go to the album, it'll show up. In some cases, the photo does show up in the photo tab, but when you try to delete it, it'll still show in the tab but if you go to the album, it's gone already.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bobsbbq:
Hey buddy, I will try to help all I can, just been real busy in the last 2 days. I just checked and I don't have any photo tab problem. Took a picture exited out and it is showing on the photo tab.

So I will try to send you my file again to compare.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zenkinz:
thanks! waiting for your file :D

I don't have photo tab problem. it's the missing content that bugs me, although it'll happen only initially.