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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] thejigsaw:
Hi to all. I am a .Net developer fighting every day with the ugliness of the .Net controls. I've tried many things and realized the .Net GDI is just a very slow graphic library so i tested a little bit of other libraries. And i realized that for example GapiDraw or WMGL are much faster (I've only tested .Net wrapped graphic libraries maybe unmanaged like qt are lot more faster but we are talking about managed code).

So after a long time of thinking i come up to idea make my own .Net library which will override the default OnPaint and OnPaintBackground methods on the Form object and do my own painting with GapiDraw or WMGL. So that means that i need to completely create new UserControl class, Button class, Panel class, Calendar Chooser class and so on and on.... Not to mention that the whole thing will be finger friendly optimized and also support alpha transparency.

So i want to hear your thoughts on this, and i will be glad if someone want to join me on this project.

The goal is to provide an library to the .Net community which will make the development of the new apps more faster, and with much better graphical interface, and better communication between the user and the app(Finger Friendly).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] thejigsaw:
Main idea: The main idea is to have a panel control that will be full screen controll without any interface every other control can be inserted in the main panel control, the main panel control will make the child control automatically full width and the child control it self will control the height. This will make the main panel control something like stack panel.

We can also implement an horizontal stack control which will devide one row of the main panel to more sections so you can insert many subcontrols horizontally. There will be also implemented an panel controller which will control main panels stacking so if you go from one main panel to another main panel it will remember the previous one so when you hit back button for example it will take you to the previous main panel or the first main panel that the program was started in. There will be also option to switch from one to another main panel trough effect, like slide, swipe, fold,flip .... There are going to be support for TOP,LEFT,BOTTOM,RIGHT docked tabs or menus call them how you want which will support kinetics and finger scrolling if they have more items then the viewable area.

There will be NO drop-down box for example since the drop-down box cant be finger friendly. So one of the idea is to change the drop-down interface with a button that will open a new main panel (modal) with stacked options as buttons so when you'll hit on an option it will bring you back to the previous panel (close the modal)

There is also idea to make nice message boxes.

Also there will be possibilities for others to create new controls by extending the projects control class. And also ability to intercept the rendering of the whole main panel and directly draw with the graphic library class if developers plan to make games or need to draw something on the main panel.

so basically what i want is someone to help to rewrite the Windows.Forms together with me :D :D and support me if he thinks this is a good idea.

I also have some sketches like images of the ui, and some code which i tested on my phone, Will be uploading it very soon.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rakar:
Sounds Good, but some thoughts...

This sounds like a good idea. I'm developing my own set of tools/controls to ease application development. (Speed of development, not speed of draw.)

My first concern is the idea of vertical/horizontal "flow control". Many interfaces can quickly become very complicated and heavily nested when controls can't be placed explicitly by position.

My second thought is that the best apps tend to be highly graphics intensive (layers of graphics that don't align neatly and use many types of graphical element types.) This coupled with the variety of phone/device formats/resolutions, leads me to think that any good interface needs an abstraction layer. I am using my own layout manager (driven by resolution specific xml) in one app that controls final element placement. (Similar to .cpr files for Titanium.)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sd00:
Subscribed. :)

I'm interested (tho only watching for now). I hope this comes to something - a set of usefull controls that can make WM really shine.

Some random thoughts (to provoke discussion)...

Simple OpenGL / DirectX capable forms & controls - with super smooth scrolling & simple design time is my personal holy grail!

Make use the new physics and gesture librarys in WM6.5?

Utelise (as best as possible) the smooth scrolling built into WM6.5

WPF compatable XML based layout would also be good! Design in blend - use in WM :) (re-use when WPF for WM finally arrives!!!)

Codeplex?

Good luck and best wished, Steve.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] thejigsaw:
This is the concept that i was talking about (it's not much invented is just cut and paste from iphone and a bunch of other interfaces that i have seen like resco forms and etc etc...) so if you see it carefully and analize it, altrough it looks limited, it allows to create and accomplish whatever you want.

also i was thinking of multi threading, so the app will let you work on it wile some parts of the gui are constructed in background processes, customizable gui themes, maybe even sound schemes. And also control image caching so if a parent control asks a child control to redraw the child control has to decide if something inside is changed, if it's not changed, then send back the previous rendered image to the parent control to be merged with it's image and send back to the root control (main control) for sending to the device buffer. So this will prevent a lot of uneeded rendering, but the control must be very smart to know on what property change what to redraw in it's image. maybe it doesnt need to redraw anything or just part of the image so it will be use the prvious rendered image and change just part of it.

Also needs to be discussed and tested if the root control will send graphics object to every child forum and the child form will paint itself on that graphics, or if the root control will ask the child control to send back image and then the root control blit that image to it's self generated image...

Anyway i now know that i am not the only one suffering from "NRAD" (Non Rapid Application Development) for windows mobile.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hkultraman:
absolutely a great idea, i am also tired to find finger friendly control on .Net CF 3.5.

I think you can add this:

1. Finger Friendly Scroll List

2. TouchFlo Style Toolbar can be used on both Horizontal and Vertical

3. Checkbox and Radio Box

4. Design Time support in Visual Studio

Ideally, support databinding. do we need to think about landscape support (may be the 2nd phrase) ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] thejigsaw:
Portrait landscape all are going to be made in the core of the library so i think they can be ahived in the 1st phase. Together with themes, and resolutions.

I accept all your proposals except the one with the design time in visual studio since this is going to be completelly not connected with windows forms, this is planned as a total rewrite of win forms and thus i dont know if it is possible to make it work in the designer.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mysterd:
This is such a good idea.

But like some others, i would definitely recommend enabling some sort of design time capabilities. Else you would have something really nice for the end user, but some not-so-good-time for developers...

Having both the user (with user-/fingerfriendly controls) and the software developer (with visual studio designer supported controls) provided with a good graphic API would make an all-time best seller (even more if the API remains free software :p) !
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] thejigsaw:
Ok i admit design time support is a very big thing but we have to do a little research on that field since i am not very familiar with visual studio capatibilities and as i said it would completely override the .net windows forms because we are going to use 3rd party graphic library. So we have to think how can we incorporate all that and all desires into one project.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mysterd:
Quite true.

From what I know, adding designer support will be a small project on its own :) But it's worth it.

Good luck.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] markusmuster:
Do you know Fluid?

Here's the link: http://fluid.codeplex.com/

Seems to be quiet the same what you want to do.

(Funnily enough I've had the same idea this morning and began to crawl the web...)

The screenshots are from a sample appication which uses Fluid.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fwt:
great find! :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mysterd:
Too bad the sample is not a full screen app... it would have been prettier... but people would have doubted it was a windows mobile app ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] chitza:
I would gladly join you, since I'm experiencing the same frustration about the UI in Windows Mobile, but I suggest taking a look at other libraries first.

I'll do some research on my own (already did some time ago) and get back with some feedback.
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] Nuno Rodrigues:
Hello If you have problems with your HTC Opal ROM Beta . I Share a original ROM 6.1 ;)

Version PT : http://www.mediafire.com/?zkyzybydnom

Regwards :cool:

Nuno Rodrigues
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] ruitex23:
Already posted (já existe no forum).

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=500635

Cumps
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] Nuno Rodrigues:
Boas, sim eu sei , o servidor em questao é mais lento...

um abraço:cool:
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] jojotots:
mate, its quite good effort!.. thanks for the mirror! :D
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] fLaSh_pt:
Nice!

Boas amigo, esse rom é completo ?

Pelo menos vc refere beta..

Já agora, se puder tambem mostrar o que inclui, ficaria mto grato :)

Thx
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] c2s.vdg:
This is a stock PT rom ;)

No mods or tweaks inside.
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] Nuno Rodrigues:
Boas Amigo, desculpe só responder agora, provavelmente é original e completo, quando refiro beta são as versões 6.5 "17 ; 18 ; 19 ; 20 ; 21 "

ok

Um abraço :cool:
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] plandesign:
Windows Mobile 6.5 PTG?

Olá Nuno! Já foi cozinhada alguma versão do WM 6.5 em português? Se positivo, saberia informar onde posso descargar?
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] aidinvm_ultimate:
thanks for sharing bro

* plz write in english * :)
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] GhostMaster9:
does it need hard spl? or it can be installed normaly like the original?
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] Shreyas Jani:
Will close the thread if non-English posts start to appear again...Sorry and Thanks...Read the Forum rules...
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] GhostMaster9:
tried to install this one on the htc touch (201mhz cpu) but dont work :(

Can you help me?
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] Shreyas Jani:
Follow this...If you need more help,you may feel free posting over here or in the appropriate thread/forum...
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] GhostMaster9:
thank you very much, and sorry for posting in the wrong topic...
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] Shreyas Jani:
I never said you posted it in the wrong topic.If it was so,i'd have moved it.All i meant was if you don't get any help over here,you may post it in an appropriate thread...

:):):):):):):)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] v1zca1n0:
Any diferent theme than standar and black? Someting else than neon? No cooker with fresh ideas? Me need more than boring icons comes with Topaz :rolleyes:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] ohyeahar:
I may have made what you're looking for...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=528133

Ah...I just saw that you already tried out my theme. Thanks!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] v1zca1n0:
Yes and I insist: very pretty.... Well done!

Anyway will be great someone else still providing more themes... :rolleyes:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] chris5s:
^ Agreed, most be plenty of creative types with time on hands :p
[myTouch 3G, Magic Apps and Games] callmebaby:
Any File Explorer?

Done under a file browser, copy, paste, create folders etc ...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Apps and Games] bachviet:
Astro

.........
[myTouch 3G, Magic Apps and Games] callmebaby:
:confused::confused:
[myTouch 3G, Magic Apps and Games] Exanimus:
search for Astro at the market.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Apps and Games] callmebaby:
Sorry, ok thanks!!!! :o:o
[myTouch 3G, Magic Apps and Games] Abbos:
Glance is another nice alternative, also available on the Android Market.
[XPERIA X1 General] stormlv:
Has anyone tried using the Blackstone Comm Manager in WM 6.5?

I tried installing http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127107&d=1225749027 but got a weird error :

"Installation was unsuccessful. The program or setting cannot be installed because it does not have sufficient system permissions".

Anyone got a way around this?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Apps and Games] callmebaby:
Unable to install programs on the SD.

Why can not install programs, such as Market in SD?
[XPERIA X1 General] jhendra:
I have an X1i and live in the US. Will SE in the US take my phone for service if it's still under warranty? Or I'm **** out of luck?
[XPERIA X1 General] ibeQuint:
yup. they will ask where you bought it and ask to see an invoice, if it was off ebay you're screwed.

but just kindly remind them the phone hasn't even been released for a year yet, and they should set up the RMA no problem.
[XPERIA X1 General] jackleung:
Yes. But if they can't fix it (or too troublesome to fix it), they caon only replace you w/ a X1a (I did!)
[XPERIA X1 General] jhendra:
Lol how come they couldn't fix it??? What did they say??
[XPERIA X1 General] jackleung:
2 cracks and color coat peeling on the navigation button. Maybe too much work to fix them (don't u know labor cost in US is very high?). ;p
[XPERIA X1 General] ibeQuint:
I had two cracks, one on the front one on the back.

they fixed it in a day and shipped it out the next.

edit.

I haven't gotten mine back yet, expecting it wednesday. now I'm worried they might have just swapped units.. did they call to ask to swap for an x1a? or did they just send you one? because I'm going to be livid if that's the case. haha.
[XPERIA X1 General] xperiance:
I called and asked this question of two different people at SE before I made my purchase. They both said the warranty on the X1 is good world-wide. Evidently something special for the xperia.
[XPERIA X1 General] jtoyz2:
buy a personal article policy from your insurance company for your phone set and done...if you live in CA i can help you out
[XPERIA X1 General] matthewpapa:
i had my x1i serviced no problem and i live in texas...

got mine off of ebay even at that

if they ask for your receipt just say you got it for christmas and have no idea where it is, thats what i did
[Touch HD General] matt_not_andrew:
I noticed over the weekend that my wifi wouldn't turn on using either the communication tab or the wifi tab in settings. When I click the turn on wifi box in settings it stays grey for a few seconds and then unticks itself. It doesn't even show the icon on the top status bar.

I was running the stock HTC 1.14 rom and have now upgraded to the recent HTC upgrade.

Has anyone had this problem? I've thought it was time to upgrade to one of Dutty's roms but really want to fix the problem before. Is it likely the wifi is defective on my phone? I don't really want to contact my provider as I currently have an unlocked phone from mobiles.co.uk and I think if it was replaced it would be with a locked phone.

I've checked the previous logs submitted and the only solution I found was to upgrade or downgrade the rom but this hasn't helped.

Any ideas?
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
Try going to:

Settings > Connections > Wifi > Wireless Networks > Network Adaptors and setting this to 'The Internet'

and also go to:

Settings > Connections > Wifi > Advanced > Power Mode and setting this to 'Best Performance'

Now try connecting to wifi

Let us know how you get on
[Touch HD General] matt_not_andrew:
I've just tried this and it still won't switch on. Any more ideas? Do you need any information from the phone?
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
Did you exeperience any other problems after upgrading to newer HTC rom....i.e. phone not working, no signal or discolourisation in screen after reboot?

Or is this the only problem?

Just trying to get better understanding of your problem.

Unfortunately I am heading out to a meeting so hopefully someone else can help you.

I'd recommend if all else fails to try a hard reset or reflash rom and possibly use USPL V2.5 beforehand. Also read cRaCKwHoRe's guide (see my signature)
[Touch HD General] belliott71:
i am experiencing the same problems you have. check your camera too, mine doesnt work either. i have flashed other roms and still have problems.
[Touch HD General] matt_not_andrew:
This promlem occurred before the HTC rom upgrade so I don't think it caused it. I have noticed that my battery life is terrible since the upgrade tho - today I unplugged the phone from charge at 0540hrs and by the time I got to work at 0700hrs it was at 91%. Since then I've made 1 phone call for 2minutes and used the SatNav for 15 minutes and its down to 61% at 0930hrs!!!

Before the reboot the only issue I noticed was that BBC IPlayer sounded as if it was running at 95% speed as the voices on the radio sounded slowed down - anyone else experience this?

I spoke to HTC yesterday and they think the WIFI has packed up. I'm going to return the phone to them under warrantee tomorrow but they said if they find ANY software unauthorised on the phone that THEY deem to be the cause then they will charge for the repair. Can anyone confirm that a hard reset will remove TF3D config and the HD tweek app completely as these are the only bits of software I don't want them to know about.
[Sable] Verticalx:
Hi

Quiet ringin volume on HP 914c was driving me crazy

I googled Around and found solution

Now it works great!

Edit the registry:

HKCU/ContrlPanel/Phone

-"Vol" = 70000

HKCU/ControlPanel/SoundCategories/InCall/

-"InitVol" = 5

HKCU/ControlPanel/SoundCategories/Ring/

-"InitVol" = 5

HKCU/ControlPanel/SoundCategories/System/

-"InitVol" = 5

Good luck
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] aluke:
Hey mens!!

I think that my problem is general:

I use s2u2, without HTCphoneskin. Well, how do you know, we lost the icons for Bluetooth, Headset and Handsfree.

I solved the problem for the BT with the cab Bluetooth Icon Notifier (nice colors icons, blue and red), but I don´t found for to can see anothers ones on the taskbar..:(

Somebody know any cabs for to do it???

Thanks in advance, best regards
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] aluke:
Somebody with any solution??? Please, I am crazy with this issue...
[General Topics] elgabor:
Hi to everyone!

I bought a toshiba g710 today and i have tried to install tomtom 7 igo8 and tomtom 6 but there is something wrong cuz wont be installed. Dont know why!!! Any idea? which satnav software could be used with this smartphone? thanks
[General Topics] orb3000:
Perhaps you have not noticed this is an HTC devices only forum

I´m sure another member can point you into the right direction/forum

Good luck,
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Tsanger:
Hey guys, I'm in the market for bluetooth headphones for listening to music. I am looking for ones that go in your ear, not the ones that cover. I found a brand called JayBird, anyone else heard of them? Anyways if you guys can post some suggestions and comments on any headphones that would be awesome.

Thanks
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] BigRD:
I use a pair of Sony HBH-DS970 headphones and am delighted at the sound quality even for being wireless. They're the in ear type and very comfortable. I don't know if they're still available but there are equivalents. You could always try e-bay.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] maedox:
There is also the HBH-DS980 model from Sony Ericsson. Didn't try them, but I assume they have the same performance and a couple of added features over 970.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] reddevil26:
Hey guys,

So I'm starting my 3rd year in medical school where I am finally entering the hospital. I bought my Fuze intially so I could use it as a PDA also while doing my rotations.

Since I got my Fuze, I've been trying out the various ROMs from the different chefs and I loved changing ROMs. However, because I will be in the hospital, I need a ROM I can count on that is stable and pretty fast. I don't want to get yelled at by the attending cause my phone crashed with a brand new experimental ROM. And I want to beat the iPhone geeks.

Do you guys have any recommendations of the ROMs we have all tried? WM 6.5 or 6.1 doesn't matter. Or should I just stick with the stock for stability purpose?

Also, I need longer battery life. My battery life used to be pretty good but now all of a sudden it drops precipitously. I might have to go with the extended battery route if I'm going to be in the hospital all day.

Thanks in advance for your suggestions!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] studmed:
I use Shep´s ROM, it runs stable, altough I would recommend Skyscape softs (especially for medical purposes), they are partly free for students, and nearly updated daily,
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] PressEsc:
I'd say go for a stock rom, and then upgrade the radio for better battery performance, thats what i did after several upgrades :-)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dmhardy6:
personally if you want the most stability i would use Da-g's roms they are stable but if you want to wow the ipod users and whoever else i would use nrg's rom or shep's they are very nice fast and stable with nice features i would suggest researching for a better radio it will help out battery life but its trial and error
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dwmackay:
I would use anything by NATF for rock solid performance. Unfortunately for now that means 6.1. But soon there will be a 6.5 release.

I am currently running the latest Da_G ROM. While it is good, I still have an occasional issue, usually just when I need the phone for a business function. If the new NATF 6.5 ROM does not come out soon, I may drop back to NATF 4.7. I will miss the scrolling in 6.5 as well as the titanium interface, but I too need a phone/PDA that I can count on.

Good luck with the attendings.

...having been maried to a great pediatric nurse for the past 20 years here is free advice; be nice to the nurses, they are your best advocate and a huge source of knowledge.

Doug M.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] gguy1:
Roms

I personally would check out one of Mr. Makk's Roms they offer the 6.5 Rom feel with stability. I put the spb mobile shell skin on there and it works great and still offers the cool high tech feel that can be put up there with the IPhone Geeks, battery last me a full day with medium use.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bwells46:
Hey,

I'm also in medical school. I use the EnergyROM. It's fast, stable and does what I need.

However, for my medical applications, I actually use an iPod Touch. Lots of great softward for Eponyms, calculators, H&P, etc. Nice in a pinch when you forget what Ogilvie's syndrome or something like that is.