yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sdlopez83:
Not buying it, the manager gets the heads up before im telling you. I've gone through this many times with phones. HTC in particular. I have a friend who is manager an att store. They get the heads up that week. Especially with the TP, that was known a few weeks in advance. He would show me the shipping list which would also reveal the ship dates for new phones. This was the case for the Fuze. IDK I hope your right! I come back from vaca monday. Would be sweet to find that its out. Actually maybe not, then I would look forward to coming back from the bahamas and count the days to go back lol.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jtoyz2:
yes i remember calling for the fuze and went into the store a day before it was release and the rep does not know a clue about it but there it was the next day
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] PRTEQ:
lol the same hapend to me....

sdlopez.. por favor if your contact tells you when he see it on their inventory, let me know... ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bloodgod:
yeah they might do something like this:

499.99 price w/o plan

399.99 with plan

- 100 mail in rebate

--------------------

299.99 final cost

so they might go 299 to try and keep up with the others
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mschaffer:
WM6.5 phones coming Oct 6......maybe?

Maybe this is what AT&T is waiting for?

MS spoketh:

"Windows® phones will be widely available at retail stores worldwide on Oct. 6, 2009. The new phones will be the first to feature Windows Mobile 6.5, the latest version of Microsoft’s mobile phone software, and will deliver new customer experiences through an improved, easy-to-use user interface, better browsing capabilities and access to valuable services, including Windows Marketplace for Mobile and Microsoft My Phone."​

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2009/sep09/09-01WindowsPhoneAvailablePR.mspx
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bloodgod:
thats looks pretty interesting but why not release the phone and then offer an upgrade like they did with others?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jtoyz2:
i see documents saying it will release with 6.1 i dunno if that still true if it is then we can hope it comes out Sep 4th or sometime in september...if not 6.5 official release is oct 6th...so we gotta hope its that day or sometime in Oct damn waiting is not my virtue
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sdlopez83:
Are you kidding?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] PRTEQ:
First T-Mo agusust 12th,

second Sprint- Sep 8th, ( http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/...ouch-pro2-unboxed-compared-to-t-mobile-versi/ )

third Verizon- Sep 11th ( http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009...ss-touch-pro2-to-land-september-11th-for-199/ )

What the **** is AT&T waiting to release it? Maybe they want us to move to one of the other 3 options and then release the freacking phone...

This is really pissing me off
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] YodaJM:
Seriously I think they do want to lose customers.

But at this point it seems they are waiting to launch with WinMo 6.5, which sucks for us on XDA cause we can get that easily anyway, but good for the masses.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] godefroi:
We're a reasonably-sized business customer, so we have a real account manager at AT&T, and the head salesdroid in the store itself says he gets notice about 5 or 6 days in advance. Given our close relationship with AT&T I'm hoping that the very first TP2 shipped to that store will go directly into my hands. I've been told that this sort of thing has happened for us even a few days earlier than official release dates :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] YodaJM:
Aweome, and luck you haha. Please let us know anything you hear if there still is no launch date revealed.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sdlopez83:
Keep us posted man.

Damn, Just got back from vaca in Bahamas. No wifi and 2.0 per minute.

i thought I would have some good news this week. Absolutely nothing new for ATT those bastards are keeping the wraps tight on this one eh. Corporate %&#*ers:eek:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] tduck:
Also, when you do get your hands on one, could you maybe make a mention of pricing for business customers? I am also waiting on the TP2 to come out on AT&T because of an institutional discount, using AT&T Premier, and we typically get cheaper deals on hardware too. Hoping for something the price of Verizon's TP2!

Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] drpal181:
I do not think att is worried about losing customers with thier excusive flagship iphone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sdlopez83:
Lol you could not be more correct sir. We are but minutia to ATT or any carrier. We are what overclockers are to Intel. 5% of clientele... Hopefully
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fortunz:
While you are correct about ATT's focus, I would remind you that Intel's pre core2duo slump was because those overclockers were the 1 in 10 who told the other 9 what to buy. Intel's post core2duo resurgence was boosted by those same overclockers.

Just because your numbers are small doesn't mean your influence is, whether ATT knows it or not (and yeah, they don't know it).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] javahead76:
I've gotta say what's on my mind, please don't take it personally...

I think that the company that takes techie talk seriously is the company that is going to sell the most phones at the end of the day. Your techie friend is the go to guy for questions like "what's the best phone out there?" or, more importantly, "what phone are you using?". Also, people aren't afraid to associate with nerds in the new online world. How many times have you heard just those two questions from newbies on this and similar forums. When people spend that kind of money, they want to be informed.

I think of smart phones as the laptops of tomorrow. They are still in there infancy and have hardware limitations but eventually they will dominate the world of portable communcations and personal organization. You can't tell me that all of these high school texters are going to go out and buy "plain old phones" when they start making bigger bucks. The market is just waiting to explode. It seems to me AT&T really has it's head up it's IButt and is going to leave the door open for someone to come in and dominate the non-iphone market. Makes me think of when Dell came in on the personal computer side of things and kicked the then strong Compaq to the curb. Compaq was just too focused on business computers and ended up ignoring an entire portion of the market.

The only thing AT&T has going for them right now is Apple's reputation and brains (Given AT&T's customer service, that may be more of a boon to Apple than a gift to AT&T). Also, the IPhone is just about as popular as the fannie pack; and, a lot of people out there are not going to want it just because they don't want to look like they are jumping on the band wagon. I don't see the IPhone keeping such a large portion of the power phone user world.

I'd place my money on T-Mo at this point. It may be long odds but I like their approach. They also didn't load a bunch of crap on the TP2 from what I saw - bet you can't say that about the Tilt 2 when it hits the shelves. I wouldn't be surprised if the reason the Tilt 2 is taking so long is because AT&T's busy stuffing it full of hoopla.

I hope I'm not offending anyone out there. My big hope is that I am wrong and AT&T is going to give us an excellent phone with great apps and an exciting user experience (it feels like a pipe dream even as I write it). My contract ends here real soon though and I have a feeling T-Mobile is going to give me a better customer experience. Plus, I can only wait for the Tilt 2 for so long, even if my Tilt (1) wants a bigger brother that's of the same feather.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jtoyz2:
Well this page is about when Tilt 2 drops of ATT...but since you mentioned ur feelings towards the company...

i know everyone has their personal experience and dislike with their cell company...ATT hasnt been the greatest towards me but what service they provide meaning reception and data speed has been great to me thus far...

the way the company runs is basically how anybody else would run it...they have the iphone the first phone that beat out the RAZR is sells and that is saying alot...an old saying is "if its not broken dont fix it"...iPhone and apple is everywhere people love it its made for beginner use and they can quickly learn to become a average user knowing their iPhone much easier than learning curve of a Windows phone...

i dunno about you but majority of my friends say my phone is too complicated to use...and i get annoyed when they use it and just click on every app on the phone...ATT dont need to release their phone first or push new product to sell...

but they are releasing new product but they dont feel the rush to do so and of course dont want to start a internal competition with their best selling phone...money make the world go round...

i to wish the phone would come out faster but in reality its out when its out...unlike Sprint who needs more clients more than any other company try to snatch up every phone thats coming out from HTC and so on Palm Pre is good but obviously not exclusive to them...Verizon in on top with their service and blackberry storm...tmobile money maker is sidekick...ATT got their iPhone...

they are in to make money not to please winmo lovers...end of the day im still with ATT...where im from Tmobile coverages cant compare to ATT...damn i think i said too much sorry guys dont have to read this work is slow today

oh yea and regarding apps and good product...thats why XDA is here...mostly all Winmo out of the Box is crab unless u tweak it and xda it (flahsing rom) to bring out the best perfomance...app will not be all ATT winmo 6.5 will launch their app store soon we can hope and see whats good their
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] javahead76:
You do make some excellent points and thanks for not begrudging me my peace. And sorry about the being off topic. I took "AT&T fortress coming Aug 24 ... any truth?" as being asked and answered by AT&T themselves (technically by not releasing it on the 24th :rolleyes: ) and this thread seams to be leaning towards broader topics off and on so I thought I would get it out.

I think the lack of new "on topic information" about the release date is unnerving to my psyche at best. Just wanted to introspect like I am sure others are doing while waiting for AT&T to join the parade.

I'm in Dallas/Fort Worth myself which is a test market for T-Mobile so the reception is excellent for nearly 50 miles in any direction. I went over to T-Mo and took a look and had a chat. Really getting an itchy trigger finger (nudge nudge AT&T).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] godefroi:
I looked into a TMO as well, but man, it's super super ugly (to me, anyway...).

I'm stuck with AT&T, though, because that's what my company pays for. If I want anything else I'm on my own. If I go with AT&T I pay for nothing (they buy the phone and pay for the plan, unlimited minutes, unlimited data, unlimited texts, and so on...).

Right now, I'd have to go with the Sprint, because it's less ugly than the TMO version, but it's pretty bad too. Why do the US carriers have to take such a beautiful piece of equipment and ruin it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] javahead76:
So what kind of consensus to we have on October 6???

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2009/sep09/09-01WindowsPhoneAvailablePR.mspx

It would make sense that they would release TP2 on this date, right? Would AT&T consider another phone for this instead... Opinions?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Toleraen:
The only info we've seen is that HTC is one of the manufacturers that will have a WinMo6.5 device on Oct 6. I don't believe AT&T has specifically stated any particular manufacturer will have a phone that day, just that there will be a device(s). I suppose someone could try looking through the FCC database and see which devices have gone through with AT&T frequencies that could support WinMo and make some guesses from there.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Hamburg:
The HTC device being released on Oct 6 is the Touch2 (aka the Mega).

http://www.intomobile.com/2009/09/02/htc-announces-touch2-with-windows-mobile-6-5.html
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] i_z:
Just did my daily check on this link and they expect it in 2 days. If this is the euro style, I will be a happy owner in a few days!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DaneMaximus:
It's showing that it's a T-Mobile TP2. I believe MCO got it wrong. They're also showing a Nokia N900 with 850 and 1900. I have less hope for that being real now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] PRTEQ:
This could be good news, http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/...n-all-signed-up-for-winmo-6-5-launches-on-oc/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] kk0813:
At&T tilt2 and HTC Diamond2 (AT&T Pure) prices leaked.

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009...ing-att-smartphones-from-htc-and-garmin-asus/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] khaytsus:
So, $300 +/- $50 with a pinch of salt. Gotcha.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DaddyGoFast:
Bump fro the masses
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ktdan1:
So with less than a week away, how real is the 5th Oct.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] PRTEQ:
For what I have read is very unreal, no one has said the 5th only one guy in a thread, others are speculating about the 6 because of the WM 6.5 release, but ATT has some bugs to fix and the date looks to be the 18.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] hg23:
I just went on ATT's site to check for phones....and the FUZE doesn't seem to be there at all. I'd say that is a very good sign. Maybe it will be released on the 6th after all? :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ameiurus:
Wow that's spooky. HTC is not listed as a manufacturer either:

http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phones/pda-phones-smartphones.jsp

And when you click on AT&T it's empty. They didn't drop the Tilt before announcing the Fuze did they?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ameiurus:
Found the Fuze under the Business section. Shows "Out-of-Stock":

http://www.wireless.att.com/busines...tLinkName=ViewAllPhones&wtLinkLoc=S1&WT.svl=2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Toleraen:
The Fuze has been out of stock / unavailable for several weeks now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] drpal181:
The store reps usually have first dibs on new devices. If a store gets it on the 5th it might be the demo unit and would not be for sell to tne public.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] hg23:
Yes, but it would still show up on the consumer site (not business) with all the other phones. They must have removed it this week. If it has been out of stock for weeks, it's interesting that they just now decided to removed it from the lineup, no?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] godefroi:
It's been "for sale" still, you just couldn't actually BUY it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] khaytsus:
How was your trip? :D
[Touch HD General] Cret:
I've noticed recently a lot of times that I get texts, I do not get an alert to show there are new messages until 2 have been received.

It does not do this every time but it's happened a lot. It means that you do not get an alert for the first one until the second arrives even though they can be quite a while apart.

The other issue is that the time it shows on the text messages I receive seems to be wrong and quite often (if not all the time - not sure) shows the time as actually being in the future, even though the clock on the phone itself is correct.

I'm confused!!! Any ideas?
[Touch HD General] Cret:
Bump

Anyone?
[Touch HD General] zesper:
with regard to the device not alerting u, except after the 2nd msg, i honestly have no idea what that is, and haven't heard anything like it before.

as for the incorrect time, if this is happening when u receive a msg from a different country from a different time zone, then try this registry tweak

HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting Create TrustTimeZoneField = 0 (DWORD key )
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] dieterpapa:
Hi all,

I've hardware plugged my Athena to my car radio to hear music. For using the phone funtion I have a BT headset which works with MS Voice Comand.

When having the audio manager running and activating Voice Comand I get the music suddenly through my headset what makes it very difficult to use Voice Comand.

What can I do ?

Thanks in advance

Dieter
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] EAlvarado:
Good day Dieterpapa.

You can try to disable the wireless stereo in the BT settings.

When you pairing the device, this service could be enable.

Regards.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] dieterpapa:
Hi EAlvarado,

my headset only allows 'handsfree' profile but not 'bt stereo'. My problem must be solved somehow different.....

dieter
[HTC Startrek] volkanmet86:
is there any avaible xt9 turkish for my wm61. pro v2?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] joshuaadude:
Hey guys, I need some helping getting the music player to work. I use a Macbook Pro and I sync my phone with SyncMate Expert. I had no problems using the program with my X1 before.

I know that the Diamond loads its artwork as a separate jpg file with the music, but during my first sync, one jpg would be named ~hTC_(album name here).jpg and all the songs would have the same photo. I tried to solve this issue by dividing all my songs by album into different folders, which only solved the problem halfway.

Some of my music is still missing artwork even with the jpeg present in the folder and other songs just have this static black and white picture instead.

I tried deleting everything and synching my music with my phone again, but I can't get around these problems. Help?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] crazililazn:
Hello, i have been having a problem of whenever i go to apps such as opera, album, or watching a video i would get this block on the top left corner of my screen, and it doesnt go away unless u soft reset. is this a common bug that can be fixed. I am using spike's 6.1 taskbar update 2 if that helps. Here is the screenshot.

it doesnt look as obvious on this picture, but when i watch videos, it is really frustrating, please help me deal with this problem :[

EDIT: i have found the fix on another post. You can delete/close this thread now :]
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] triniboi:
whats the fix? i got the same problem in opera! lol
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Cokey:
I have the same issue from time to time.. Can u please post the fix...?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Wiggz:
Would I be right in assuming that you are all using FingerKeyboard? This looks identical to an issue I saw when using it. It was fixed by changing the following settings:

In fingerKeyboard options tab, change Portrait and Landscape settings to "Show Bar"

That solved it for me.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] crazililazn:
what wiggz posted is the fix lol. assuming you guys r using fingerkeyboard :]
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Wiggz:
So did this fix the issue for you then?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Tatsch:
It's a well known issue in FingerKeyboard - look in FK-Thread Post #1

Not solved yet :(
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] crazililazn:
yes it did. it was really funny, cuz right after i posted this thread, i just searched the forum and immediately found the fix lol :D
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] stanleymann:
Had my exec running perfectly for months, now it will not switch off or switch off the backlight with any of the timed settings. I have hard reset it and it's

still the same. Any ideas.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] d12bn:
Anyone have some ring tones to share?

Thanks
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] adamo86:
if you want original tones

if you want original tones search for it you will find so many.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] d12bn:
Rock!

I'm looking for rock, blues , hip hop not the tones that come on the phone

Thanks
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ripinfamous:
http://www.zedge.net/

Free Ringtones, SMS alerts, Wallpapers, Games etc. Go nuts!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] d12bn:
Sweet!

Thanks so much!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] imrock:
can anyone provide me with the original HTC Bella ringtone?? i installed a new ROM which unfortunately didn't hv that ringtone:p
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] kaplatz:
maybe u'll find here some tones!?

rintones
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] imrock:
what can i say..it had all the HTC ringtones EXCEPT the HTC bella one which i wanted..:(
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Monsterslam:
How do you add the new tones? I can play them in mediaplayer but thats it
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Ultraschorsch:
I am looking for the HTC modem ringtone. It sounds like an old 56k modem handshake and I can't find it anywhere.

Thanks in advance!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ktemkin:
You actually want that horrible noise?

Well, here you go.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] jaxouk:
is there no mp3 editor on your device?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] jaxouk:
thats what i use :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Ultraschorsch:
Well, it brings back some old memories :)

Thanks a lot and have a nice weekend!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Sparkling Sapphire:
here ya go

try http://www.funformobile.com
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] G1-8701:
is there a way to tether the Raphael? i don't have one but my friend wanted me to tehter her's and i didn't kno if it could be done.........
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kk0813:
These links should help.

http://www.fuzemobility.com/att-fuze-internet-sharing-tethering-revisited/

http://www.fuzemobility.com/how-to-set-up-internet-sharing-tethering-on-the-att-fuze/
[General Questions and Answers] tigrisimo:
hello people, i wanted to know ...... because once i started a thread in spanish, a moderator told me to translate to plain english...........

why are big threads in german?? without english traduction??

i hope some one can tell me why please!

Good luck friends!!!
[General Questions and Answers] bstylz911:
i think u should post this up in the Q&As
[General Questions and Answers] jwzg:
Official forum language is English. Though we respect users of other languages, the moderators and admin have agreed that no other languages should be used without translation.
[General Questions and Answers] jez83uk:
If the moderators dont speak spanish, then how can they moderate your comments?

I remember a thread where someone posted a very abusive and 'colourful' rant in another language. It was quite funny when fed through a translator:D.
[General Questions and Answers] Clondyke:
While I agree that it is just friendly to give a brief translation in English (it does not make sense to translate every single word),please think of this: A user who does not speak German will not have any use for a German ROM, so why invest too much time for translating all the posts, if anyone Non-German (-Austrian/Swiss/Luxemburg ...) is not interested in that posts?

jez83uk is right, a translation without knowledge of the language it is translated from does not really make sense.

And BTW: Why do you ask for an English version of ROMs in other languages, instead of using one of the English ROMs? :confused: