yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus General] eurotuner:
Well I'm kind of new to the wm scene, I recently bought a htc dual, but i found that is lags to much it's fairly slow compared to my T-mobile dash which I had also updated to wm 6.1. Can anyone tell me if there is a way to increase the phones speed.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus General] Grzesieq94:
This is Windows Mobile so it must work slowly. This is not other phone without operating system
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus General] eurotuner:
I know that, I had the dash before the dual, what I'm asking for is software that is a little more reliable than the original software for the dual, because of the simple fact that it lags more that 6.1 kavana which I used on the dash.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus General] eurotuner:
I meant then :D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus General] randomelements:
If you've still got the stock ROM on it may be an idea to have a look at one fo the custom ROMs in the Nike Upgrading forum. Depends if you want to stick with WM6.1 or go with WM6.5 (don't forget it's all beta though).

Some cooks do lite ROMs with a lot of the apps ripped out so see if there is something that matches your requirements.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SamJolly:
Sorry cannot work out how to delete this..

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Hi All,

I am new here so hi.

I am thinking of getting a TP2 and possibly getting the VF TP2 since they seem to have some good tariffs, better than my current fruity operator !!!

However....

I am very concerned about their version of the TP2 and the mods that they have made to it. Does anyone know what these are like the VF red/white UI.

I am seriously wondering whether it may be better to go for an unlocked version from somewhere like Clove or Expansys but I still need to buy the network access package which apparently costs the same ie around £30/month.

Thanks in advance,

Sam
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] eugene7:
All of a sudden my TyTN II won't log-on to my home WiFi network...

It's been working fine, and I've been using the WiFi at other loactions with no problems, but now it wont log-on at home.

I know the settings, password, etc., are all ok, but it just sits there attempting to Log-on (no error message)...

All other devices, including a Touch Diamond and LapTop, log-on no problem.

Any ideas? This is really driving me crazy!

Steve
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Teej53214:
There is a good chance it is your Router... Just unplug it, leave it unplugged for atleast 30 sec to a min (more will NOT hurt)... LEt it power up.. mean while reset your phone... then try again... 95 out of 100 times that will fix the problem....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] eugene7:
Nope, didn't work...

If I change the Router settings to 'WEP' from 'WPA-PSK' I can connect... But I don't want to do that...

It has been connecting fine via WPA-PSK previously, and ny daughter's Touch Diamond connects fine, so it's not the Router settings.

Looks like a hard re-set of the Kaiser?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] eugene7:
Hard re-set fixed the problem...

Just got to re-build the device now!

:(
[Touch HD General] carlowise:
Hy

Al my calendar apointments, birthdays hollydays are moved for 1 day before.

How can I fix this help!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SamJolly:
Hi All,

I am new here so hi.

I am thinking of getting a TP2 and possibly getting the VF TP2 since they seem to have some good tariffs, better than my current fruity operator !!!

However....

I am very concerned about their version of the TP2 and the mods that they have made to it. Does anyone know what these are like the VF red/white UI.

I am seriously wondering whether it may be better to go for an unlocked version from somewhere like Clove or Expansys but I still need to buy the network access package which apparently costs the same ie around £30/month.

Thanks in advance,

Sam
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orb3000:
delete double post

Welcome to the forum

Please do not double post

read and respect the rules
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SamJolly:
Apologies. The site was very slow to respond so I stopped the original and resubmitted not realising that the initial one had posted.

Sam
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] GordonTGopher:
You could do what I (and many others here) did, buy from http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/ .I got an unbranded TP2 on vodafone, rather than the voda customised one that you get when going direct.

Gordon
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SamJolly:
Gordon,

Thanks for this. This looks interesting. I heard about them on the VF forums although the VF moderators were not too keen, surprise, surprise. Basically one should check very carefully 3rd party contracts. So are the contracts from mobilephonedirect problematic?

It seems to me that they are simply reselling the same VF packages. However if they are a good company with fair contracts then they look good. Also I did contact them seperately about this issue and I got:

"We only do the unlocked version anyway."

So is this an unlocked phone on contract with no mods... ?? Sounds good to be me.

I am rambling now...

Thanks,

Sam
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] GordonTGopher:
Double post deleted
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SamJolly:
Gordon,

Did you mean to double reply...??

Since you have gone with them, I am really interested in your view of their contracts and of them as a company to deal with.

Thanks,

Sam
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SamJolly:
Looking into this a little more, it seems that VF try to encourage you to join their £30 / month deal via a free ear piece (~£30 value) and free first 3 months (£90) so a saving of £120 in total....

Hmmm....

Sam
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DavidMc0:
I'd definitely recommend going for Vodafone, not through MPD.

The reason for this is that MDP is more expensive (at least for 18 month contracts), and you don't get the quality support you get with Vodafone.

If you phone becomes faulty within the next 18 months, with Vodafone you'll get a replacement within 24 hours (assuming you're on business tariff, as that's all they are currently offering the TP2 with), but with MPD you'll have to use HTCs support, which means sending it off and being without a phone for a couple of weeks or more.

Also you'll never have any issues deciding who to go to with an issue, as it's all one company, they can never say 'that's the responsibility of the reseller' or whatever.

That's my recommendation anyway, but do what's best for you!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SamJolly:
David,

Thanks.

Since you are from VF and have TP2, could you tell me how the VF TP2 differs from the HTC standard TP2. This customisation is the one thing that is putting me off going with VF directly - It may not be too bad.

So as a VF user of a VF TP2 device, what are the differences please.

Many thanks in advance,

Sam
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DavidMc0:
The differences are not significant.

Differences:

- Vodafone branding near buttons at bottom end of phone, doesn't look bad.

- Vodafone branding on the battery cover (overall less writing than HTCs, and you can replace this if you really want)

- FM radio software included

- Red/white colour theme

In my opinion, the theme is ugly, but this will be so easy to change in the future, either when Hard SPL is released, or some other way of changing the theme / flashing original HTC rom is found.

These are the only differences I can see, overall it's not been customised loads beyond the theme.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] faria:
in the vodafone?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SamJolly:
David,

This is very interesting.

I also appreciate your honesty about the theme. Out of interest does this theme replace HTC's 3D UI for appointment viewings, time, weather etc.... that one sees in reviews?

So The performance is the same as the original? But with a VF Flash which you say could be replaced shortly with this thing called Hard SPL. Would the use of such a program not invalidate any VF warranty?

Thanks again,

Sam
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] stunno:
It also has Worldcard Mobile pre-installed

Oh and you understated how bad the theme is!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] stunno:
Yes it is there
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SamJolly:
Thanks all.

Out of interest is there anybody who regrets getting their phone via VF as opposed to MPD or elsewhere?

Also has anyone got their TF TP2 UI back to HTC's original or is this too early yet?

I am still very split.... although if the theme issue is solvable then I might be persuaded to go with VF especially as they have £120 off plus £100 cashback with Quidco which I would not get via MPD.... which is basically 7 months free.

Hmmmm.... Now how bad is that VF theme??!!! :)

I am going to ring MPD tomorrow and see what they have to say.... Will be interesting.

Thanks again all,

Sam
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] alexnessie:
I'm going to be getting a VF contract with the Touch Pro 2 as I'm on my third Xperia and I'm sick of it!

Can I just ask, when you turn on the TP2 for the first time, does it give you a warning then begin the VF customizations?

Because if it does you can just pull the battery out then and it won't be VF branded :)

I know this works on the HTC Universal as I bought mine from O2 and didn't want the branding, can someone test it for me on the TP2 please?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] beast0898:
It has been tested by others and reported to no longer.

Cheers,

Beasty
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] alexnessie:
So I'm stuck with the VF branding? Is there a way to remove it without flashing the phone?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] GordonTGopher:
Sam,

I noticed the double post about the same time you did, not sure what went wrong!

I can't really comment on MPD as I've been with them less than a week :-) they handled the order efficiently and I've had no issues so far.

I am concerned about MPD being between me and vodafone, but I decided to take the risk. Voda weren't doing the phone when I ordered mine and I prefer unbranded phones to carriers own versions.

I'll update this thread if I discover any problems.

Gordon
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DavidMc0:
TouchFlo 3D is still being used, so has all the features of the HTC version including time, weather etc, just different colours.

Using HardSPL and flashing custom roms officially is supposed to invalidate the warranty, but in practice it won't, as long as you flash back to original rom and SPL before sending it back. Don't worry if this sounds unfamiliar, there will be tutorials to guide you through the process once it's all ready!

Don't worry about the theme, it won't be long before you can cover it up, as you nearly already can:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=527644

It's just not quite perfect with the Vodafone Pro2 yet.

I'm sure a cab will be release that will give the default HTC layout, so don't go for a worse deal just because you might need to live with an ugly theme for a couple of weeks ;-)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SamJolly:
David,

Thanks for the help.

I have just spoken with MPD and their deal is:

£30 + £4.26 (internet ) + £5.99(insurance - free 1st 3 months). 14 day -28 day return policy to MPD and thereafter to HTC. Apparently HTC are quite good at exchanging fault phones.

I am reassured about being able to get rid of the VF theme shortly. HOWEVER I am still a little worried about invalidating the warranty. If my phone breaks and will not boot how do I restore the original ROM???

The VF is looking more attractive if I can get my head around these darn customisations.

One final thing... I had a real run around with VF staff trying to find out about the VF customisations for the TP2 yesterday - about 45 mins on phone. Even Tech Support did not know. They even suggested that I contacted HTC direct... which I found amazing so I came away thinking that their support and knowledge is a little lacking. Perhaps I should give them a little leeway since the product is so new, but surely they should have been able to forward me to someone who knew this product since they are selling it actively.

Thanks again,

Sam
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SamJolly:
Gordon,

Thanks for this helpful comment.

I did speak with MPD today and they seemed fine... lots of "sirs" ... ie professional, but I felt their offering was more expensive ie £30 + 4.26(web) + 5.99(insurance:optional) and of course if something goes wrong with the unit then you need to send it to HTC which may be fine!! At the end of the day I have other devices here like an Ipaq that I would have to send back to HP if faulty (well its a bit old now :))

I take your point about MPD being between you and VF.

It is all about this branding issue now I guess.... since the deal seems quite good with VF especially when using Quidco.

I hope you are enjoying your TP2 !!! :)

Thanks,

Sam
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] stunno:
I wouldn't worry too much about the branding, as David says it will be sorted very soon. I am using the theme that he mentioned, and, although it has some faults, it is still VERY usable and I will not be changing back to the VF one.

About the ROM issue, I have had HTC phones for a number of years and think that I have flashed all of them, some more than once, and haven't had an issue with it. Ii have also returned most of the phones to Tmobile for warranty repairs (nothing to do with the flashing) and have had no problems at all, I am assuming that VF are the same.

If you can turn your phone on you can usually flash it, if you cannot turn it on there is no problem with the ROM anyway!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DavidMc0:
So Vodafone are definitely a bit cheaper - £34.05 per month with internet, insurance is £3.50 if you want it (I didn't bother).

HTC are fine at fixing faulty phones, but not as good as a next day replacement - also, a replacement is usually refurbished (excellent condition).

Be aware that if you use Quidco, apparently you won't get the next-day support: you'll be in the same boat as with MPD - sending away for repair etc, which you may consider worthwhile for £100.

The Vodafone stock ROM is very good, so if you don't want to invalidate warranty, just use a cab (again, I'm sure one will be available soon) and don't flash a new ROM. This will give a new theme and won't invalidate warranty. Also if you go with Vodafone and flash a new SPL & rom, once they've replaced your phone under warranty I doubt they'd ask to swap back saying it's 'not under warranty' - not worth it for them; easier for them to just flash it, refurb it and give it to someone else who needs a replacement.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SamJolly:
Hi David,

Thanks again.

Some comments/questions ...

a) I still do not quite understand whether one can reflash to VF original if TP2 is unable to reboot due to fault (reason for sending back).

b) If reflashinh is not possible I understand that you are saying that one should just send the flashed TP2 back and they will just sort it with a problem... prabably :)

c) Interesting comments about cabs... So you are saying that I would be able to rid myself of the VF theme with another theme without flashing, but using a cab file?

d) I am surprised about your quidco comment since they are not mobile resellers, but just a referral point. One still ends up at VF to get the phone and tariff etc... I guess I will have to check this.

e) How restricted would I be with upgrades such as WM6.5 when they come along on a VF TP2? I have seen some worrying posts about VF dragging their feet or worse insisting that they do it.

f) Can you confirm that the VF TP2 is unlocked?

Thanks a million,

Sam
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] spring happy:
I think buying through Quidco is a not going to affect the service you get from Vodafone. In fact what you do is to buy at VF directly on the website but not paying any money to the third party e.g. ebuyer. It has no difference if you press VF link on Google after you have searched for VF business.

I might be wrong but I will give it a go when my contract is UP in 5weeks, just can not wait!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SamJolly:
Just a thought on this.

I have just visited the site and it has a listing for Personal Vodafone(up to £90) and one for Business Vodafone(Upto £100) off. I would expect if I go through Business I would get the Business SLA. Also one has to go thro business to get the TP2 anyway unless you are very lucky.

Sam
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] stunno:
Quidco is a referral site. They get money from retailers and pass it onto you if you click through one of their links. Vodafone will know that you have come through a Quidco link as they have to pay Quidco the commission. So Vodafone's profit is reduced if you buy from them through Quidco

The top 2-3 adds on a google search page are either google referrals or placed adverts, that is how they make most of their money.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SamJolly:
Stunno,

So you are implying that you will get a different deal if one purchases this way?

I have asked Quidco the question.... so I will see how they answer. I guess I will need to ask VF as well, but their answer will be predictable.

Thanks,

Sam
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DavidMc0:
Hi Sam,

a) If your phone dies and you can't get to the bootloader, then you won't be able to flash the ROM back to normal

b) I think they probably will not make it an issue, but I could be wrong.

c) Yeah, like the one I linked to previously, it's a cab that changes the TF3D theme & the way it works. (a cab just installs files & programs, so you can get rid of it my uninstalling & it won't invalidate the warranty)

d) I was surprised when Vodafone told me this too, but it makes more sense than getting something for nothing. Clicking through makes it a 'dealer managed' account, and the dealer must handle certain aspects of support, according to Vodafone. Would be happy to hear this isn't the case, but it seems likely that it is.

e) I hope you won't be restricted - Vodafone should provide an update, and if they don't you may be able to install the official HTC 6.5 update without invalidating your warranty. You could ask Vodafone, but I doubt any of their people on the phones will know.

f) Yeah, it's unlocked & I had it working with T-mob before my number was ported.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] stunno:
No, Sam, you will get the same deal that is offered on the VF website plus the money back from Quidco (if it tracks - some of my higher value quidco purchases haven't)

However it may be that VF do not offer the same value added incentives if it is bought this way, eg I appear to have my own business manager, who was the guy that sold it to me over the phone. I didn't ask for one, but I've got him

After all, the £100 has to go somewhere
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SamJolly:
Stunno,

So you have a sales guy as a customer manager that you did not want for the sake of going direct :) Interesting.....

Also interesting for VF to treat QuidCo as a dealer since they are a referrer and have not ability to "support" their mobile customers !!! I would have thought this referral fee should be treated as an intro fee rather than a dealer commission. Lets see what comes out of QuidCo's answer. Really interested intepretation of them being a "dealer" though.

Thanks,

Sam
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SamJolly:
David,

A big thank you for taking the time to answer my queries. Really appreciated. I might try asking this question on the VF forum where Vf staffers contribute. I agree their telephone staff would not comprehend.... although Tech support should.

Thanks,

Sam
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shinta4e:
Hello so what im looking for in this CDMA theme is that the dialer,phonebook,caller id and call history look exactly the same as those of the standard rhodium phone fuctions in terms of referance check out the dark diamond theme for pocketcm as for the dialer,caller id and incall screen refer to the tachi dialer and the m2d dialer skin floating around now the bounty starts at $40 but if there is enough interest i will be willing to shell more if needed plus whatever else others contribute to the cause thank you
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] SpaceCrawler:
Hi,

I am looking for a sort of finger friendly speed dial "addition"?

I remember having an app on iphone that let me put an icon on springboard that is assigned to contact from my list. Is there anything similar for Blackstone?

The favourites tab in manila is just not finger friendly since icons on the right are too small. Basically I don`t need to see big contact photo in the middle. Larger icon with name is just fine...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Svegetto:
Not sure of how much help this is, but you can always just assign numbers to the speed dial that's already there; just like pressing and holding '1' takes you to voicemail, you can set that same feature for the other digits. I would think this would be the fastest way to call someone since regardless where you are in the phone, you just have to press the hardware call button and then w/e digit that is programmed to the corresponding person.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] SpaceCrawler:
are you talking about fixed dialing?
[G1 Apps and Games] Meltus:
edit: not much use in this thread anymore, except maybe a good reference for people making an app :)
[G1 Apps and Games] alritewhadeva:
How about rebooting the phone? Will that work? :)
[G1 Apps and Games] Meltus:
well yeah, but i don't think people will pay for an app that reboots your phone each time you change the volume settings :p
[G1 Apps and Games] hamshu:
I think its, Runtime.getRuntime.exec("your command");
[G1 Apps and Games] rrstx:
have you seen this?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3434331&postcount=35
[G1 Apps and Games] Meltus:
do you think you could elaborate a little more? :p

i'm still a complete java noob :D
[G1 Apps and Games] hamshu:
Process process = Runtime.getRuntime().exec("killall mediaserver");

That line should do it.
[G1 Apps and Games] Meltus:
i've got:

try {

Process process = Runtime.getRuntime().exec("killall mediaserver");

} catch (IOException e) {

// TODO Auto-generated catch block

e.printStackTrace();

}

and it doesn't seem to do anything.

any ideas? :confused:
[G1 Apps and Games] corp769:
try {

Process process = Runtime.getRuntime().exec("sh");

DataOutputStream out = new DataOutputStream(process.getOutputStream());

out.writeBytes("killall mediaserver\n");

out.writeBytes("exit\n");

out.flush();

} catch (IOException e) {

e.printStackTrace();

}

try this, see what it does man
[G1 Apps and Games] corp769:
or try this:

try {
Class<?> execClass = Class.forName("android.os.Exec");
Method createSubprocess = execClass.getMethod("createSubprocess",
String.class, String.class, String.class, int[].class);
Method waitFor = execClass.getMethod("waitFor", int.class);

int[] pid = new int[1];
FileDescriptor fd = (FileDescriptor)createSubprocess.invoke(
null, "/system/xbin/bb/killall", "mediaserver", null, pid);

FileInputStream in = new FileInputStream(fd);
BufferedReader reader = new BufferedReader(new InputStreamReader(in));
String output = "";
try {
String line;
while ((line = reader.readLine()) != null) {
output += line + "\n";
}
} catch (IOException e) {
}

waitFor.invoke(null, pid[0]);

return output;
} catch (ClassNotFoundException e) {
throw new RuntimeException(e.getMessage());
} catch (SecurityException e) {
throw new RuntimeException(e.getMessage());
} catch (NoSuchMethodException e) {
throw new RuntimeException(e.getMessage());
} catch (IllegalArgumentException e) {
throw new RuntimeException(e.getMessage());
} catch (IllegalAccessException e) {
throw new RuntimeException(e.getMessage());
} catch (InvocationTargetException e) {
throw new RuntimeException(e.getMessage());
}