yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Buddy Count:
Status, feedback, picz

@all: The current builds are too buggy for daily use so I wont release them right now. Here are some screenies of my current work (updated the album...)

HTC LEO keyboard ported to german:

(still some bugs remaining but now fully usable.)

Startmenu and next appointment:

Sample MUI error:

All buttons shown are nice and round (image compression from the screenies makes them look creepy). All buttons are customizable and I updated the standard classic black theme to fit the new ui.

But there are many UI issues left and with every actual build many changes to the system are made. (e.g. right now I cant send SMS with the 23047 build). So correcting all MUI errors (which I can do :D) is too much time, then the next build knocks at the door and heavy bugs (like the SMS thing) are fixed. So it is not worth right now to fix MUI errors and release.

But beside some errors I think I got the memory management right, by know everything runs smooth and I tested some games and apps/ emus. Above 40 percent memory free and not increasing :) even with heavy browsing, etc.

And I had no reset on all last builds I tested...

So everything is on a good way.. I think the final release will have the new taskbar and buttons as well (for some more picz, see album in first post). I really like that and the whole UI is customizable. (I hope MS wont wait for this features till launch of WM7 and sth. like the UI in 23016 wont be standard in 6.5.). Buttons, dropdowns, comboboxes and many more controls in programms like total commander are more fingerfriendly and look nicer. Even the dialog buttons are skinned (e.g. copy in total commander, etc.). So all apps look nicer. And its smooth, MS did a good job by now.

Manila 2.1 works in landscape as well, but is still some pixels too low, but landscape works, too on 23047. I didnt test 2.5 yet, cauz its splitted in many different packages and I dont want to port them right know, cauz there are no german _manila files available and its too unstable.

If I got time I'll add some more picz. (If you got a special screenshot request, let me know :))

So long, gn8!

@firespawn: Looking forward to the final version, too... See above for statement on next release :D

@barbapappa_86: Its all trial and error and a long way to a working version, youll have to learn many things; all tutorials of the world cant teach you. ;) Try out yourself, I spent weeks on my first german release and got no experience with swedish :)

@umtauscher: I think I got the memory thing fixed and Im still working on more improvements. Next release will be better. Im testing different approaches with every build and I found many ways to change memory usage and behaviour. I only have to find the right mix :) This will take some time, but stay tuned :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] barbapappa_86:
True that! :o I at least located that the error is in my translation (Its not from some of youre packages ;)). How did you do when you translated to german? I got all the files from D_aG and changed them in SYS and OEM (Added 041D), compared it to the 0407 as the lang theres is fine. Still it messes up. Dont know if i need to edit initflashfiles.dat as it is kind of blank when i downloaded it. Rom shouldt be 4mb smaler just because i didnt edit the initflashfiles.dat?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] firespawn:
Thanks for your recent reply! good to hear that you're keep on track with WinMob 6.5 ;)

I've tested manila 2.5 and i was realy realy impressed about it. htc's improvement of ergonomy is simply amazing. Manila 2.5 should go live with HTC's nextgen phones, so it should get a stable piece of code right now. where are the difficulties to implement manila 2.5 in custom kitchens?

greets Firespawn
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Buddy Count:
Feedback

@barbapappa_86: You have to overwrite initflashfiles.dat in OEM folder with the swedish one, right. Everything else you made seems right. Sometimes the devil hides in details. Compare every folder, file and rgu settings. Then you also have to try around with modules. The BlackStone cant handle too many modules, so you have to make files of some of them (e.g. Internet Explorer). Or you get strange behaviour, like programms not starting, lagging, OEM errors, etc. You will also have to rework the whole OEM folder and include swedish extensions from a swedish HTC ROM. Make sure you got the MUIs from the same build versions. Its really a lot of work (I know what Iam talking about ;)). Good luck!

@firespawn: It is no problem at all, but the LEO dump I got has been dumped with a different kitchen, so I have to port every package to ervius manually. Manila 2.5 is seperated into about 20 packages and the release has still some bugs and there is no german version available. So I concentrate my work (and time) on other things and wait till I got a stable version with german *_manila files. If you want manila 2.5 just get it from a package here in the forum and add it to the kitchen...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] barbapappa_86:
Hmm.. Think i already tried everything you mentioned, except the modules etc, but that wouldnt result in that the start menu dosnt work? I know that my initflashfiles is unedited. Is that super important? I just want to get my ROM to work in some way if you know what i mean, and then work from there :o
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Buddy Count:
The initflashfiles is for all the system shortcuts. The modules are the important things. You gotta find the right balance of modules and files for performance and use a swedish BlackStone ROM as base for the OEM folder.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] barbapappa_86:
Thanks mate :) Goin quite good now. I sortet the error from RemoveArrtibMMS something by removing the XML file. Now i get this message (I might got it before also, dont know):

RUN XML

\\WINDOWS\mixipupdate_oemoperators_100.prowxml failed

Code:0x6

Found it in OEM/Blackstone/OperatorPkg.. Playing on :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Buddy Count:
Added HowTo

Cauz I tested the new 23052 release today, I documented the steps to port a new release to the kitchen, see the HowTo section.

HTH some guys.

Greetz BC
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] umtauscher:
Hi Buddy Count,

does that mean YOU are not going to put together a new "release"?

Since I was waiting for your next release (due to the memory problems with .16) , I was just testing the rtt 5 rom and I am not impressed. Your .16 already was much better.

So I was hoping, your new rom would be ready soon.

Is there any chance this will be happening?

Keep up the good work!

Umtauscher
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Buddy Count:
That means: I'm a nice person, who publishes his HowTos ;)

Sure I will release a new build, if a system base is worth and stable enough for release (as I posted many, many, many times before...)

But now you got the possibility to do it by yourself in just some easy steps. So if anyone wants to test a special build by himself, that has not been released by me: Just do it! And stop begging for release :D

As I said before: I wont release every build MS makes (But I nearly test every release for me). Maybe there are others who want to test new builds by themselves or persons like barbapappa_86 who use my kitchen as base for porting it to another language. For those people the HowTo is intended.

But its funny what people interpret in just a single post, where I did not even say something about future releases. Why always thinking so negative? Except some rare people here (like Andy, Svebu, etc.) all are only complaining about bugs and begging for new releases. Become active yourself and experiment around. The more people doing that, the faster we will get a stable base.

As I said in the opening post: This is a hobby! (My first WM65 device). I got a regular full time job, a girlfriend and my own household, as well as many friends and projects I'm working on. Every release and every HowTo is a gift to this community, so please see it as this and respect that.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] firespawn:
You're right Buddy ...

as you've already mentioned, there are a lot of tasks every day in real life to be overcome. So I'm personally very grateful that there are people out there who investigate in various kitchens!

Let's say, it's done when it's done. Make sure that you'll get a giant cookie ("Leibnitz Keks™") from me, because your work is great in this case ... :-)

LG, FireSpawn
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] luis_figo1998fr:
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[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] videowolf:
KITCHEN][GER][WM65][build 23016.5.3.0] V0.94 HTC BlackStone/ Touch HD Buddy Count

Password ?(((((
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Buddy Count:
read the first post carefully ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Buddy Count:
myphone/ wm65 final

I just synced myphone and got a new version, beta status seems to be gone. New features are added as well (like positioning tracking), I just attached the new cab, feel free to test it. Don't know if this is available elsewhere by now.

Syncing worked fine, but now birthdays, etc. from contacts are added to the calender automatically after syncing with the new myphone version. So in my case, I now got "full day events" added and my manually entered birthdays as well. So entries are duplicated. One has to clean them after syncing.

That leads me to the next topic WM65 final:

AT&T just released the HTC Pure with WM65. According to the pictures I've seen, it still seems to be the start menu and notification bar, like in my 23016 release, so the new UI features, seem to planned for the next WM version. By now I got 23420 running for some time. Its really stable and MS improved the contact view very well, one can even add up to 3 IM nicks to a contact, and many details more. I think there are no more fields needed. Good job by MS, but the MUIs are stil 90% english in this release. So not worth publishing.

But Im just dumping nbhs from raws, porting them to the kitchen and testing the AT&T Pure ROM. No german muis yet, but than I can exactly see, what MS used for the final build and translating muis of HTC progs is no problem (I just got the LEO keyboard running completely german and translated the leo COMM Manager and Bluetooth version). So if a german release will last too long I can translate some progz and release them, if a stable WM65 base is there (including german muis). Everything is running fine, so things are getting hot ;)

I'll report on my tests these days...

Update: Final version of WM65 in the AT&T ROM seems to be 21849
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Buddy Count:
Marketplace

The MS Marketplace opened its doors as well. When you start it, an update will be installed. I could not catch the cab, it was too fast deleted, will attach it, when I got it. New version is: 1.0.2201.0000. Everything seems to run well and the whole marketplace is german on german WM65 builds.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Nephisto:
the megaupload-link doesn't work at the moment. Is there any other link where i can get the ROM?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Buddy Count:
I just tested both links, they work fine.

BTW: I just found out, that MS worked on the bluetooth stack in 23420 as well, CallerID is correctly transferred to my Sony Ericsson BT Headset (DS980). No need for additonal software.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dexX23b:
How do I change volume since vol-up and vol-down scrolls the mainmenu?

When I go to Start -> Tools -> CHome and add "Settings" it would'nt show up on the main screen, even after soft reset. What's about that? =)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] c1500:
Hi,

will you make a german version with new Manila 2.5 / 3.0 (with this great new weather optic)?

br

C1500
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dexX23b:
Yeah.. a german Manila 2.5 rom would be veery nice!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Buddy Count:
Sure I'll release Manila 2.5, but I use only official released packages, so Im waiting for a full german rom dump from leo (HD2).

By now Im using WM65 official, final release for Rhodium/ Topaz, version 21854 in german.

Its a lot of work with all new packages, Im just working on OEM drivers and folder, as well as some last issues on packages. When everything is stable and fixed, it will be released. But speed is really nice and the next release will be feature packed, but still take some time.

Quick (and dirty) workaround for volume: Try to use icon from top notification bar. I cannot remember, how it looked like in that release, cauz I flashed nearly 50 times since my last public release, so pretty much changed and i got no time to reflash my old version. But this is no issue in new versions.

For CHome ask the author :) program is not made by me.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigDaemon:
BC you are my god ;)

That is exactly what i am searchin for during the last days/weeks. very happy that finally a german cook makes my dreams come true :D

Looking foreward to see this release, don´t hurry, better wait a few days more than having a buggy ROM at the end
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] c1500:
Hi BC

may this help you?: "Official WM6.5 ROM Upgrade - HTC Touch Diamond2 (Topaz) - German Version"

LINK

I know that it is for Topaz, but mayby a lot of parts are in german.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Buddy Count:
@BigDaemon: THX for the flowers :) Sure Ill wait till its fully stable (check your pms there you got more info)

@c1500: THX for your effort! But I have already ported the german version :) Im fixing last issues by now. Like some packages not working (e.g. YouTube), but speed and stability is awesome right now. Just some issues on first boot (which needs a softreset, but working fine after that).

If anyone got some information on the error: "Package is missing file or certificate." would help. I just ported all certificates from topaz and rhodium to single provisioning files (horrible work :)), which are all processed and certificates are installed correctly, but some apps (like youtube, mp3 cutter) still dont work, didnt find the solution for that by now. Maybe any cook or mod has a tip? If so, plz PM me or post. THX!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigDaemon:
Hi BC,

just wanted to ask about current status?? Is there an eta for the release?? :)

Can´t wait to upgrade to GERMAN WM6.5 and have lots of time this weekend *g*
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tiger22:
PUSH....:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Buddy Count:
Feedback

:D

I know youre all waiting :)

The initial boot phase is o.k. right know, I cleaned up the whole OEM and driver folder, Manila 2.5 is working stable (nice background, animated, all options work), I didnt encounter a single reset in the last days, but I still got the certificate error on youtube (I imported the cert files from the oem folder from different devices, successfully, I extracted the certificate from the exe file and imported it sucesfully and even removed the certificate from all exes and dlls, but still doesnt work).

The manila homescreen has a display error (grey square in upper left corner), I think its because the programms tab isnt displayed correctly. Im working on that.

Footprints animation is quite laggy, I try to port some 3D drivers from the leo, the driver pack available here doesnt do it good enough. (But there is a little improvement)

HTC message cant send (hangs in outbox)/ receive sms.

I gotta port the camera app and drivers.

Im trying around with new leo compass.

By now Im fixing the new HTC message.

So if anyone got a tip, let me know!

To reach all above, I have to do the same with the whole leo oem and drivers folder, as with the blackstone, that will take some time and testing.

I hope to get a good release for daily use in december, dont think, all things will work earlier... The whole kitchen has been reworked and there is lots of other stuff. When I release, you will be able to cook clean WM65 ROMs and fully packed featured ROMs with everything from HTC, which makes life easier ;)

The way, my testroms run, make me believe, that a fully stable and smooth running port will be possible. And when all this is done, new releases can be included easily. The BlackStone has the capabilities!

With manila 2.5 free memory is around 50 percent right know, with all enhancements enabled ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigDaemon:
2.5???? :(

Weren´t you talking about a Topaz/Rhodium-Port, which uses 2.1??? :confused:

I am still waiting for your ROM, hope we will get a 2.1-Version, like we talked about by PM.... :( :confused:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] umtauscher:
Anway, thank you very much for the update on your progress..

Cheers

Umtauscher
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Buddy Count:
@BigDaemon: 2.1 has been already ported in the release available. Always remember: This is a kitchen NOT a ROM, you can choose which manila version youd like more. It is no work to update the files from topaz, which I did, but its a lot of work to port manila 2.5. Because of other things not working correctly, there is no release yet. But most people want 2.5, because 2.1 is available for a long time. If I say youll get 2.1 youll get it :)

Just wait for the release... I dont got time to explain everything. But you will get the things you want. One Tip: Only advantage/ difference Topaz got from leo is manila 2.1 and the bluetooth comm manager enhancement. Both will be available in the kitchen. You can even use the (older) windows mobile 6.5 OS release from the topaz, if youd like, but I would use the newer builld from the leo. (Everything else is senseless and just to say I got exactly the same version as the official release...)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] steve0815:
is there a way to get the bluetooth thing running? i know the issues about the comm-manager, but is there a possibility to get to the bluetooth-settings otherwise?

thank you.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Buddy Count:
There is... ;) Wait for the next release or hint: dump rhodium comm manager (6.5 official rom), get topaz Comm manager bluetooth enhancement and check your registry settings for sth. like use old style/ htc style. Then everything works like it should. Dont got it here right now and I wont release any of my packages, when not finished. They will all be in the next kitchen release. But I still have to do some things and most important of all: Clean many things up :) So other people can work with it, by now it looks like a testing mess ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] steve0815:
ok, thank you. i'll wait for the new release. :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigDaemon:
Hi BC,

any news about the release of your ROM(s) / Kitchen???

Is there an ETA perhaps? :D

Can´t wait to play around with the 6.5-Kitchen and ROM....
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Buddy Count:
Status

News are there nearly every day :) I wish I could say, when the release is there, but I cant. It depends on time and testing success of different things. But I can say: I use it on daily basis, nearly all apps are o.k. (I fixed the certificate error) and by now Im porting Topaz and LEOs drivers for better performance. Memory consumption is heavy with manila (doesnt really matter which version), but due to many files being converted to modules, speed is really nice and things like emulators, 3d games, etc. run really smooth, so its usable. Bluetooth works nice, contacts are displayed on headsets, comm manager and topaz comm manager bluetooth enhancement work, many other htc enhancements, too. I can say Im satisfied with the way things go. But for pub release I still have to fix some things and most important: clean the kitchen up, so its usable for everyone. By now (as I said) its a testing mess. The scrollbars thickness in ervius kitchen is about a millimeter thick ;) No one but me can work with that :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigDaemon:
Hi Buddycount,

we are/i am still waiting for your release, whats going on?! :/

Are you still working on it or is this ROM dead??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Buddy Count:
Did I promise any release date? Did somebody spend me half a million of dollars, so I dont have to do my regular job no more and spent all time on developing BlackStone ROMs/ kitchens? ... I dont think so... Just imagine: I have to work on the holidays (24th and 25th), I dont even got free time on new year and have to work during the days and nearly every 2nd saturday. And as long as I got no free time, I cannot develop anything. As I said many times before: Its done, when its done. If you cannot wait, do it yourself!

Sorry if this sounds hard, but Im tired of the "when there will be a release, are you still developing", questions. As long as I dont sell my blackstone, i will continue development, but ITS A HOBBY! (mentioned that many times before). If you dont got a family, friends, job, girlfriend and nothing better to do on christmas than developing for BlackStone, I would recommend you as the chef! But dont blame me, if I spent my (rare) free time on CHRISTMAS!!! with my family, friends and girlfriend...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigDaemon:
Hey, calm down my friend!!

I didn´t say i want a date, i didn´t attack you or anything else!!! I just asked if you are working on it and how it is going, because we didn´t hear anything from you since weeks!!!!

Nobody here said anything like "we want it today" or something, i just asked if you are still here, because other cookes left the Blackstone last weeks! And because i am happy that there are a few german cooks!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] steve0815:
are there any news out there?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miri:
Buddy, the freezing problem was with WM build 23003, just update your kitchen with build 23004 and the freezing issue will go away :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] twister_65:
Hi BC,

i read the first time in your FAQ, that it is possible to flash via SD Card.

I tried first with my old 1GB SD Card from my HTC Touch, but the bootloader says every time, that there is no ROM. I copied the ROM to the 8GB SD card from the Touch HD and all is working fine.

Maybee someone know the reason and u can post it on your FAQ

Otherwise continue you work

Thanks for all until now :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Buddy Count:
Hi Miri! Many thanks for that info! Meanwhile I updated the OEM drivers from the new german o2 release (1.57.207.1) and tested around with WM65 system build 21812, the bug didnt occour there, so I also came to the solution, that the error came from the base version. Another thing i noticed: In 23003 where the dialogs being light grey (e.g. home settings) and not plain white. 21812 is fine. Is this also fixed in 23004? Do you know about that?

Another thing in 23003 is an icon display flicker/ failure in total commander and strange "plus icons" in PHM RegEdit, I guess they have the same reason as the light grey background color in dialogs. If these issues arent fixed in 23004, I will release 21812 as stable base first....
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Buddy Count:
@twister_65: Nice to hear that the FAQs helped somebody. I have to start a new thread, only for FAQs, with linking to them, the maxiumum post length is 10.000 chars and that limit has been reached :D because of that I postet the HowTos in the first post...

@all: About 200 downloads right now... I could need more feedback concerning usability and stability, translating issues, ... (beside the freeze bug, I work on and cosmetic things like icons...). When you don't have any issues, please let the people know, that the kitchen/ ROM is running smooth.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miri:
I told you yesterday about the greyish thing. I'll upload tomorrow my Themes and give a link to you so that you can place them in your kitchen and replace the one you have because the problem resides in them.

The grey problem started since 21815 (if I remember correctly)