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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bxsteez:
I'm usually not an advocate of making post to knock threads but there is already a thread for this.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] whtrbt7:
TP2 audio quality is about the same as the iPhone. I think I posted the response graphs for their performance in another thread with almost the same title.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] booshwa:
Thanks to all the iPhone users posting this info. I've been trying to decide between an unlocked iPhone (I'm on T_mobile) and waiting on the TP2. The iPhone has some neat apps...my brother pointed his iPhone towards the radio and an app he had installed popped up with the name of the band and song being played! it was pretty impressive.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Maniacfest:
Nice summary mate! ;) I am in the same position as you, with an iPhone 3G at the moment, upgrading to the TP2 soon!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Aisorik:
I know, I'm just really torn between getting an HTC phone and an ipod touch + cheap winmo phone. :p The more personal input, the better.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Link278:
I think there is something like that for wm phones too
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] kourampies:
1. Do you really need this bloated DRM infested program just to sync music? Cant you just sync a directory using USB mass storage or foobar or winamp or whatever?

2. Appstore? that will be only an excuse to charge for minor freeware apps in the future.

3. Buy videos? You mean like pay for encoding? That would only make sense if you bought HD videos on iTunes and also got a free mobile version to save you the time of encoding. And dont tell me you cant find a video converter and a suitable preset for windows mobile.

4. Gotta agree iPhone OS is smooth and full of eye candy. Its also extremely stable, since it does only one thing at the time, and tries to simplify anything. It's nice, but certainly not my kind of thing. I even prefer to use the stylus but have all the options available, and running 3 or 4 apps simultaneously is a must for me.

5. It could be better, but come on. It's a one time setup, and there are lot of guides out there.

6. iPod? DRM infested gay looking extremely expensive audio players that force the use of DRM infested useless bloated software? do not want.

1. True :p

2. TF3D is good, but neither innovative or so useful. There where other, possibly better alternatives before TF3D, simply with less eye candy. I think its the minor menu, taskbar and other HTC enhancements that make the difference.

3. Didnt know that. I thought iPhone's speaker was better. Nice knowing that.

4. Customisation Customisation Customisation. Developers Developers Developers. Go windows mobile. :D Widely available SDKs and samples, and everyone can beggin programming for Windows Mobile without paying Microsoft for Closed SDKs etc.

5. iPhone doesnt have Smart Dial? You have to buy it? That's ridiculously sad. I had smart dial since 2004 on my magician.

6. A must for Business use.

7. Nice idea, but not needed anymore for me since i have a nice data plan.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bobdude5:
if youre going to miss the appstore go to an android phone..htc magic or htc hero..it has multitouch and flash player :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] phigafr:
I would just consider the Iphone as a toy for kids. It's totall useless for business purpose.

I got the touch pro 2 which is a real business phone: conference in one single touch, perfect sounds in hand free mode (just put it upside down on the table to activate!), direct call from an email

AND a real keyboard!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] whtrbt7:
1. For Mac users, this is an only resource. I totally agree that iTunes is possibly one of the worst music management programs out there. It's not DRM infested anymore luckily but it's still a mess when managing music. I normally prefer Winamp but haven't found anything to emulate performance on a Mac yet. iTunes I have to admit is "easy" if you have an iPod or iPhone. It's just that if you don't really care for your music, iTunes is the easiest way to go.

2. Appstore is a double edged sword. Apple dictates what can and can't be on it and there is so much crapware on it that it's painful to browse (although really amusing and time wasting).

3. For normal consumers, they don't care if they have to buy the movie as long as it works. It's true for if you use an iPod or iPhone. Windows Mobile users have to encode their own videos normally since we don't have a centralized place to buy our movies and getting custom resolution encodes is not easy for a normal consumer.

4. I agree with you. A Jailbroken iPhone can do background apps and also has quick access to commonly used functions. I really hate digging around in the settings menu on the iPhone.

5. Yup, totally agree with you on this one.

6. For Mac users, it's the only thing that really works. It's smooth as long as you have an iPod or iPhone. Requires extra software if you want to use it well with WM.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] k4r1m:
how do u remove the htc sync app from the phone it self which .apk's do u remove from /system/app/ to get it uninstalled?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] sangeet.003:
Which brand of phone r u running,

try this,

U must have root

Generally its something PSII apk

Search for it in /system/app then use rm -r <app name>.apk

make sure u use su before

u r done...
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] k4r1m:
Thanks! it was PCSCII.apk ;]
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Lolo78:
I everyone

could you help me by making a cab or explain me how to create a cab with the last HTC BT_sap protocol

Since many time now i'm searching for a recent BT_sap.cab ti install it on rom where the BT_sap is not install by default.

But i dont understand how to take it from kitchen and make a proper cab to install on my device or other one.

thx in advance
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Rosch89:
Hey all firstly I apologize if this is in the wrong section or if it has been clarified before but I wanted to know if you can use the WM6.5 standard theme and link the music player to open the TF3D music player app. Cheers!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Rosch89:
Comon 117 views and not one of you have a clue? :confused:
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] JLowe:
No I think it's not possible, because Music-Tab is inside Manila.

You must load Manila in Today for using the Music-Tab.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] calner:
nk02 is a virus!!! :p
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] alpinux:
Explain yourself more detailed. Can you post them?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] magpie2000k:
Firstly V4 isnt posted yet, so not sure how you have it unless he was kind enough to give it to you.

Second he has made or worked on many roms why would he start to do something like this.

Finaly many times I load a program onto the phone and it wanrs me that it could access my data in one way or another, so not sure this is unusual but happy to be corrected.

Last If you dont like the rom or are concerned just delete it, and dont flash it flash a different rom..
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] calner:
no comment
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] magpie2000k:
Sorry Calner I cannot understand what you are trying to say.

Firstly where did you get R4 of this rom?

I ask as as he hasnt released it then there is a chance that where ever you got it from has altered his rom.

Second what exactly is happening ie does you virus software on your pc pick up a virus in said file.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] kingchris:
hey look on the first post of nk02 post.

he asked for tester

i have also the V4 on my magic. but i dont understand the thing with the virus.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] magpie2000k:
oh Ok I asked to test but havent heard back, he mustnt like me LOL

wish I could get my hands on it though....
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] nk02:
what? notes in tomboy are changed? how can an installed rom on your cell phone modify your pc files ?

I've no knowledge to do something like this..

@magpie2000k sorry i've received a lot of pm :D
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] magpie2000k:
Ok for the record I now have and have installed the rom R4 version. (its fast)

at nop point did I get any message warning me when installing.

I have scanned the file with three virus scanners and nothing found.

I come back to my origional point . did you get the file from nk02 or from someone else. someone else could have zipped something else into the rar file.

anyway I like it and can see no problems at all with the rom.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] joopje:
R4? :P how did you get it?

nk02 lemme try i gave you beer ;)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] oscar.palomar:
Please nk02, let me test v4 version please.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] dr_dre:
oh no the begging starts .

i think that we all will be able to test out v4 in the near future :) it just takes time.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] joopje:
stop coping me :P
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] calner:
Bug or???
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] scorpionredblack:
Calner mi raccomando scrivilo anche su altri forum,mi sembra piu'che altro che invecere di capire cos'e' tu ti diverta a dare falsita',secondo me e' un problema tuo,un update.zip non e' un virus ed e' lo stesso che ha passato a me nk02 ed io non ho nessun tipo di problema.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] calner:
Hai ragione, sono un pessimo beta tester. Solo ero parecchio incazzato per me chiuderei tutto.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] KK43:
Can anyone recommend a thin and snug silicone cover that does not cover up all the buttons (at least not on the front)?

I just need something to take the edge of if I were to drop it, without adding too much bulk or hanging loose.

So far best choices seem to be boxwave or the one expansys will get, but haven't tried either:

http://www.boxwave.com/products/flexiskin/flexiskin-htc-magic_3484.htm

http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=182306
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] KK43:
actually this doesn't look too bad either:

http://www.boxwave.com/products/purecrystalslip/htc-magic-pure-crystal-slip-case_3484.htm

Has anyone bought one of these? Just curious if it's actually a hard case and if so how you can slip it on and keep a tight fit
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] bastage:
thats pretty slick looking, Looks to me though to maybe be a combination of a hard case (the back) and silicone (the sides).. Definitely looks good regardless..
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] Boszman:
I have this

I have the HTC branded silicone case and it not very snug but it was all I could get. It was the only choice for me.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] dunai:
I bought this: http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/silicone-case-for-htc-magic-black-p19787.htm and its great!

pics:
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] KK43:
seems a little thick on the top side. I was looking for something very thin, like the ones for blackberry curve if you've seen them, very slim, very tight and blends in well with it
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] crxtasi:
Been shopping around till my myTouch arrives but has anybody try the Plastic resin type?

http://cgi.ebay.com/2-SOFT-Crystal-Gel-Case-Skin-HTC-Magic-Google-Ion-G2_W0QQitemZ270420679273QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item3ef6541a69&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=|293%3A1|294%3A30

looks likes its snug and better than the silicone ones. check out the video at around 5:05 for the magic
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] Roy_Drage:
They look quite good actually, quite thin. I've just ordered a blue one and a clear one. Only cost £5.50 all in to get it to the UK. Will leave a review when they turn up.

I am currently using one of the clear silicone cases from ebay, they are ok but they add a bit of bulk to the phone which I don't like.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] crxtasi:
Nice! :D those were the colors I was thinking of getting. Can't wait for the review.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] Roy_Drage:
Yeah I was thinking of getting a black one but I've seen our (HTC Magic) phone with a black silicone case on it and it looks really weird. Like too much black on that nice white body, doesn't look good.

Think clear and blue look quite cool tho.

REVIEW TO FOLLOW...........................
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] bastage:
looks like tmo will be selling some very slick looking ones..

http://gizmodo.com/5310098/t+mobile...ude-battery-extender-docking-station/gallery/
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] ADchemist:
yea this one looks good

http://www.boxwave.com/products/purecrystalslip/htc-magic-pure-crystal-slip-case_3484.htm

i hope seido comes out with something for the phone like the innocase 2. i loved that case on my blackberry.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] crxtasi:
its almost like the one I posted on ebay but without the design and you get 5pcs instead of 1 :D now the only thing in question is quality and how snug it is.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] efenili:
Anyone that gets any of these please let us know how it is :)

I am not usually a huge fan of cases because I hate the bulk they add...but if there is a SUPER thing one (pref soft not hard) I would def be interested
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] Roy_Drage:
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-SOFT-Crystal-...id=p4634.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=|293:1|294:30

Right they turned up today, took probably 7 days I think to get from Japan to London, so pretty good.

First thing I asked for Clear and Blue cases. I got clear and black. Those funny Japanese folk probably couldn't read my VERY CLEAR ENGLISH.

Anyways first thing you notice is that they feel a lot tougher then the standard silicone ones you get off ebay (I was using a clear silicone case from ebay) the japanese ones are very tough, but still durable, they fit my magic a lot more tightly the the bog standard silicone ones.

Second thing I notice is how much more grip it gives you, much better then the silicone ones.

Thirdly and perhaps most importantly is the fact that YES they are thinner then the sillicone ones which seem to add a bit of un-wanted bulk to the magic. This new case must add barely 1mm to the unit.

I haven't quite worked out if I like the pattern that seems to be on the case, the black case looks ok but I really wanted the blue one! SO i'm going to email them now and see if they reply, doubt they will though.

lastly the provide you with a couple of 'free' screen protectors. These are actually the best ones i've used! They really are fantastic, they fit the screen perfectly, are perfectly clear, no bubbles and you can't even tell they are on there! And it doesn't affect the use of the screen at all, I mean it's still ultra sensitive when swiping your finger etc. Very happy with these!

All in all I like these cases and think for the price, especially considering how good the screen protectors are (worked out at about £7 inc shipping to UK) it's a pretty good deal.

Doesn't mean I won't be looking for another case tho :D

But until I fall in love with one, this will be the one I use.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] crxtasi:
Hey thanks for the review I actually ordered the 5pack they have for $20 I just hope they don't make a mistake on the colors. I ordered 2 clear(for me :D ) and 1 of each pink, blue, purple(for my wife)

but then after i bought it i found this ebay which is a little bit cheaper and had a diff design but who know maybe its the same quality. I might try those out as well :p
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] dunai:
they seem a little loose, but i you order, poste pictures please :D
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] gwhizzrocky:
@ Roy_Drage

Thanks for the review. Can you possibly put some photos up of the cases with and without your phone inside?

It's good to hear that they are so thin. I'm currently using the supplied HTC case but was thinking of getting something a bit less bulky.

cheers
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] ADchemist:
did they charge you any customs fees shipping to the usa for the epik cases?? im probably gonna get one but i dont want to be slammed with fees.

this is the item i am talking about.

http://cgi.ebay.com/2-SOFT-Crystal-...4.l1262&_trkparms=|293:1|294:30#ht_8785wt_876
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] crxtasi:
Yup those are the same people I ordered mine thru. They didn't charge me custom fees they usually put "gift" on the custom forms :D smart chinese people!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] :
lol thanks man, ordering now.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] Wysie:
Ordered too, thanks for the link :D. I'm from Singapore, so hopefully I'll receive them soon. Will post pictures then ^^.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] :
that would be nice, thanks
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] Roy_Drage:
Very similar to one I reviewed earlier in this thread, basically I picked up one of these and very much like it http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120447761528&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT it's like the others in feel and size (very thin) but it doesn't have much of a stupid pattern on it, despite what the picture looks like.

Definetly worth checking out and my fav so far.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] Wysie:
I've yet to receive mine :(. ADchemist have you gotten yours?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] Wysie:
I've gotten mine, and am very happy with it. However, there're some weird markings (looks like the plastic didn't mould properly), but they are quite invisible. I've uploaded some pictures:

Link: http://img229.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=p1030559medium.jpg
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] Roy_Drage:
Yeah I had that case, was the one I reviewed couple pages back. Was nice, the fit and feel etc. But the diamond design on the back started to bug me, so I got rid of it.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] mlobacz:
Just ordered the epik resin cases. 2x cases and 2x screen protectors for $9 shipped, couldn't pass that up. Will let you know what I think when they get here.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] kchau:
you guys do realize that the silicon and hard cases that ebay sell are exactly the same as boxwave (as are the screen protectors) for a fraction of the price of boxwave

cases are around 5 bucks shipped and screen protectors are aroudn 1 dollar shipped.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] crxtasi:
Ok so I've had this cover for about a week and overall I am satisfied especially for the price :D couple of things that bugged me a bit but definitely can live with is the cuts. the camera hole isn't centered and the mic hole is on the other side(look at the photos) but as far as comparing to a silicone case this one is a winner. i have been using it and there are still debris from lint or dust in the case compared to the silicone ones.

I got 2 clears 1 pink 1 blue and 1 purple here are some pics:
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] unattached:
interesting, mine has got its mic hole on the right side, so the cover would fit..
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] eltigroUK:
yea just check my fone, my mic hole is on the right hand side too. maybe its just the t-mobs which are the other way round, v.strange
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] f-yeah:
I ordered the same ones, and got an email a few days later saying my order was going to be delayed because the cases needed to be redone for the mytouch version's speaker. Apparently the mytouch version's speaker is on the left, and the other versions are on the right. I still haven't received mine yet, but hopefully they fixed the camera hole too. Thanks for posting the pics, i was anxious to see what they'd look like on the mytouch.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] crxtasi:
yeah I figured that it was different from the myTouch and the Magic. No problem man but overall the case it good and snug I just made my own hole after a week of using it and to be honest my wife and I didn't notice a difference with or without one, so didn't do it on hers :D

I just emailed the seller and asked him to email me once they have the one for the myTouch and I'll grab another batch. :p
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] mrpandainc:
Very simple buy the real gel skins from T-Mobile which feel right, they're cut perfectly and it comes with a string to put on the slip on rubber case. Th case is really sturdy and precisely cut.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] Barret1:
I also have one of these cases (being sold as "SOFT Crystal Gel Case Skin HTC Magic Google Ion G2" on ebay) and they are VERY nice. Definitely agree with crxtasi - they are a significant improvement over standard silicon cases. I think they might have caught on the the mic hole being on the other side - my case came with a hole for the mic on both sides!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] crxtasi:
granted they're probably nice and cut right and I do believe in the saying "you get what you paid for" but 1 for $14 compared to 5 for $20 I couldn't resist :D and i kinda like the semi-clear and design!

You probably got the next productions cases. how's the cut on the cam?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] Barret1:
I just took a closer look - the cutout for the cam leaves the cam usable, but it is clearly off center and too far down. Also, on closer inspection, the second hole for the mic appears to have been manually drilled/punched out rather than molded in. They did do a good job with it...I had to look really closely to notice - but if you are waiting for the next revision of the case it looks like we have a bit longer to wait.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] schtuka:
This is what I a getting. I do not like gel skins or plastic. Best leather cases I have seen so far, looks very nice.

http://www.noreveusa.com/product/HTC_Magic_Tradition_leather_case.html
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] KK43:
Seems like the best option, but not quite so simple as it doesn't seem to be available in the UK, at least none of the ones I've seen look this good, most seem to have been roughly cut out of a tyre
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] WaterMan!:
I ordered a generic clear frosted one on ebay, will post a review when I get it
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] briggs81:
I am looking for one that tries to stay nice and flush with the top of the phone. I hate skins/cases that add extra height to the edges, messes up with my typing!

So far these http://www.boxwave.com/products/purecrystalslip/htc-magic-pure-crystal-slip-case_3484.htm don't look like they add to much height/lip to the phone.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] eltigroUK:
Mines came a few days ago. 1 clear/white and 1 black. very very impressed!!!!

all cutouts meet up perfectly, they have used some sort of manual drill/awl to make the new mytouch mike hole but very well done.

chuffed to bits. ordered 2 cases with the 2free screen protectors and 3 mirrored screen protectors all for £9 sterling!!!!

ET
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] joaosousa:
I am also looking for a silicone cover for my magic...

Where did you ordered it? Can you take some pics and post here? Thanks...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] WaterMan!:
Got my clear frsoted one from ebay today..

Nothing special. It is definitely much much thicker than what it shows (its like 5mm thick), but the extra bulk lets me hold the phone and type easier. Also it feels like a marshmallow and very easily slip in and out of your pocket with 0 lint
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] briggs81:
Pure Crystal Slip from Boxwave..they only have blue.. that's pretty hard to believe..

these look similar though - http://www.boxwave.com/products/diamondcrystalslip/htc-magic-diamond-crystal-slip-case_3484.htm

Hopefully it works out. $5 shipping to Canada.

Now I just need a good pocket book style case with a clip, that fully encompasses the phone.