yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Haha. Nice. That was an amazing question and answer string. I think you have to put that one up in a FAQ somewhere, Ivan. That's a real tricky one. lol.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] WhatzinyourphonE:
So when is this expected for release? And i have a few more questions. With this kitchen will i be able to keep a 6.5 rom stock, for instance if i wanted all of the original apps to be included? with this would it be possible to remove the SIP thats currently installed in your 6.5 roms? So is this going to be for us to make roms just how we want it? This is nice i cant wait for it!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
1. You can make a stock ROM if you wanted to. I created a whole section where all the stock apps are stored. (So you can also make a stripped ROM.)

2. The SIP that I have included was included by me by choice. This was my personal choice. This is a kitchen, it leaves all the choices to the cook. If you want to include it, you can, if you don't want to, you don't have to.

3. This kitchen will NOT decompile my ROM so you can edit it. This kitchen's base ROM is a WHOLE new base. You won't be able to make a custom JustHome or JustStable. Those are a whole different set of ROMs. But I suppose you can something similar, but not exactly, unless you do a lot of manual editing.

4. This is really meant to make the life of a cook easier, but it's so easy to use, they can also be used by the average joe.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] DestructDez1:
Is there is kind of redundancy check for multiple apps of the same kind that might cause an installation failuer? i.e. dialers, task managers, interface.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Not exactly, but if you put in two apps that are the same or similar, the one processed last will overwrite the first one processed as far as settings and files (files only if the file names match.)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] pochinvn:
Hello!

Tell me please where I can download SuperJustKitchen?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Dude. Seriously?

Will you just wait. Ivan's a busy person. Let him work.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] DestructDez1:
HAHA!!!

Thanks for the answer. That pretty much solves the problem that your old kitchen had but it will still leave an openening for errors. I guess if its all about trial and error or just knowing what you might want.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Pretty much. It will almost completely solve the issue, but once in a while, you might be still get a bug here or there, depending on how the packages are set up.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
By hacking into my laptop...

That's the only place where it exists. :p
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Diagrax:
Haha...Hopefully you can Finish this quickly so everyone can "Feel the Art of Ivan!!! (Not Really)

...Man Ivan you do so much for us you need to give urself a break every once and awhile.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] DestructDez1:
agreed. Ivan needs some time off or hes going to burn out. between your roms and side projects your at 3 months straight of work?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Between work, school, ROMs and side projects, I'm at 6months straight. Before that, about 2 years straight (unless you count me being so sick I couldn't get out of bed.)

But I'm traveling to Canada next week to visit my wife's family, so I will be taking a major break then. :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Diagrax:
Haha You Better Enjoy Urself!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Simplified interface: One RunMe file with everything else hidden. (I forgot to mention this before...)

Update:

Added support.bat. I will add different support features to this later on. Right now, it can enable and disable logging in the kitchen. (Enabling it disables the kitchen's normal output but writes it all to a log file.

Bug found:

LZX seems to be bugged out...

I think I may know why, but I'm still testing my theory.

Working on that as I write this.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] SSJ_Gomike:
So how is this coming Ivan?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I'm in Nova Scotia, Canada right now, so it's not going anywhere while I'm vacationing. ^_^
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] SSJ_Gomike:
LOL!

enjoy the bitter north east!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] mxstyles:
hey ivan, it's annoying to hear, that you didn't continue to work on justhome.

this is the first rom i loved from the first second after flashing.

the style, the speed, the startmenu, very nice work.

hope there will be a stable version.

mfg

mxstyles

PS:

THANKS FOR YOUR WORK IVAN!!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
This will replace that. I plan to add the packages needed to create something close to JustHome for the JustHome fans. (But it will only be in 0409 (english) since I would have to create the other languages and that would take a long time tracking down all the right files.)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] demanxxx:
Sorry, but where the link to download the kitchen? please give)))
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] rstweb:
it is still in developement and ivan is on holidays. so please wait :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] nonpaq:
What.... Ivan doesn't have a notebook computer with celular network connection????

(just kidding)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
You get two big frowns from me.

Have a nice holiday Ivan! Not sure what there is to do up in Canada. I remember my teacher telling me a story about his college days...They had this idea (everyone was doing it, right) to go up to Canada, get a job there, and you get really rich. Well, they got up there (after partying the whole way on the road) and turns out all the other kids beat them to it. So, they had to chill out up there for a while, and they found a job chopping up fish. Basically, he got drenched with blood and had fish guts running down his face.

But I'm sure you can find something better to do up there, Ivan! Maybe be a wedding crasher, of a gay marriage! (no offense, just thought it'd be a unique experience, as most of the United States is very restrictive about marriages for some reason).

Have fun!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I'm here visiting my wife's family. ^_^

I've had a very relaxing time so far.

Once I get home, I hope to get enough time to clean up the ROM enough to release an alpha.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
"ROM"???

You mean kitchen? Or you're gonna cook us a ROM first?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Yes, but in order for the kitchen to make a ROM, it has to have a decompiled ROM. That's the ROM that I'm cleaning up. The problem isn't cleaning up, per say, but cleaning up and categorizing all the files for all the 13 different languages to save the programs that I remove so that they can be added later on.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Mmmm, okay. That all just went over my head.

Question about "Visual" kitchens...Are they as powerful/useful as the "old" standard kitchens? Or are they over-simplified and they sacrafice power features for simplicity, like the iPhone?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
There is no sacrifice of anything. The old ones were very simple. Even simpler than the visual kitchen. All the "powerful" features were added by people like me with scripting.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] nikmel420:
take all the time in the world dont even think of roms or kitchens just have a good time. even god took a day off. have fun
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Diagrax:
Ivan Suggest you not do any work for like a month and just relax...you done to much for us all so take a huge break...take care of yourself out there, Ivan :cool:
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Diagrax:
haha beat me to it.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] nikmel420:
lol yea see the only people that dont want you have a nice long vacation are just gona ask you "how do i flash from an sd card" anyway lol the rest of us know you deserve longer then your gona take
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Hey, I'm still around. I can answer those, and I don't just answer with SEARCH DAMMITTTT. I still give them a written up answer. Keyword is "still". After time, I'll get fed up with them and just tell them to be self-sufficient.

I love how the mods are closing those stupid threads, though. It's interesting.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Diagrax:
Ivan actuall we're all here just like ace we can give a str8 answer or until that thred gets closed plus do the still ask how to flash thru an SD card?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Well I'd hope you don't try answering someone. You're grammer would just destroy the newbs. Are you always posting from your phone? Or you just love to type in txt-lingo? lol. I can barely understand you sometimes.

And I've gotten people e-mail me, asking how to flash through SD. It's easy enough to explain, though, just hold down two buttons, slide down volume, and go!

Oh, nvm, I thought you were guncent. That guncent has real bad txting-grammer. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, for now.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Diagrax:
Actually idk sometimes i use correct grammer and othertimes i do txt-lang on ya depends on my mood or i do typos but yea i no how to flash thru sd but i dont get emails so i guess im "happy"(?)

Edit: and no i dont post from my phone, my wing is in repairs and my opal, lets just say i miss placed it
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] nikmel420:
I will admit i can come off like im not a nice person its usually after im looking for an answer and when i search for hours reading the same question a hundred times b4 i find the answer i know when you search they both come up the same so if i see someone asking a question know is a pain to find because ive done it i help them out but yes i was making a joke how we all know just look at how many threads say the same thing about sd flashing one after another i will be the first too say my brain dont work but i dont think i deserved to be taking out of context like that ace im sure i could find a post of yours and edit it so you look like u made me look like like . but to us all this aint the place for for this
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Diagrax:
Im completely lost, what you tlkin about?

Edit: Ah, that...Nikmel i totaly doubt that Ace Was trying to Offend you in anyway, he was just saying so dont take it to personal...probably something Ace would say something near to wht i just said.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Lol, I thought about posting saying that I was completely lost too, lol.

And I'm trying to find where I offended him. I said that YOU had bad grammer, I think, but then I realized I mistakened you for guncent, who ALWAYS has bad grammer. I never said anything about Nikmel, that I can find. I just get really lost in those bad-grammer posts. Sry if I insulted anyone though.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Diagrax:
haha im not good with critizism well i cant tell apart from good and bad critizism, and yea im the guy that you said "YOU have bad grammer, GO BACK TO SCHOOL!" not really like that but it would have been better to say it like that.:D
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Hehe, you also just spelled "grammer" using great grammar skills ;) I did that over on the PointROM thread, and laughed at myself :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Diagrax:
hmm i did? i dont see it:mad:
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Hahha, wow. Okay, you spelled it "Grammer" (Original Post).

It is properly spelled...."Grammar", with an "A". Understand now?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Diagrax:
Srry about that i need to start drinkin coffee and redbull monster wht ever i can grab cuz i gss i cant pull an all-nighter like this
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] nikmel420:
your right something typed allways comes out diferent then if spoken. im sure you ment no disrespect. i do know i disrespected the work ivan does by being offended and for that im sorry!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Diagrax:
Eh!? appologizing aint it to early for that.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Who cares. I honestly don't mind if you talked smack about me, since I'll never actually know you guys or anything. But yea, basically, WE'RE DONE ALREADY!!

Lets let Ivan come back without having to read 50 posts of useless bickering. We all are probably just tired. Lets call it quits.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Diagrax:
you right but, speaking in such a manner isnt reall necessary; can't we just act like civilizied Human Beings for once? Anyways Im Done for right now.

:o
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] lennyjaxn:
I was excited to visit this thread and see three new pages since my last visit. And then I started reading....

I guess I just contributed to the off-topic nonsense, didn't I? Alright, I have a question then:

Ivan, is it possible to cook that nifty top-of-screen battery meter into a 6.5 ROM, or make it an option in the kitchen?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Yes, cooking that in is EXTREMELY simple. Just create a OEM folder out of the cab, and cook it in. Who knows, it might be even simpler than that with Ivan's "Visual" kitchen.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Diagrax:
And the reason why you don't see anything new is, because Ivan is on VACATION!!! YEA! he needs it.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] lennyjaxn:
I knew how to do it in WM6.0 and 6.1, but I wasn't sure with the changes in 6.5 if it was possible to display that bar correctly, given the Titanium business and all.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] lennyjaxn:
Yeah, I wasn't complaining that Ivan hadn't made any progress. Everybody deserves a vacation (especially him). I was just saying that I was excited to see that there were three new pages and then disappointed when it wasn't related to this ROM, that's all. I'm patient. I can wait for the kitchen and enjoy JustHome in the meantime.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
The same way that you'd do it for 6.0 and 6.1 ROMs still applies.

Laptop battery dying...

Gotta go.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] v5HMeca:
hahaha. well played.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] DrE_braxx:
LOL you are so rude lmao, but true i could barley understand what he was saying im staring at his post like wtf ....e.e?!?! ANYWHO, ivan how are you coming along with the kitchen, or are you to busy helping them with the android?

{hopefully helping them with the android project thingy XD }
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Neither. Unfortunately, since I got back, my work has had me SWAMPED.

Today, I only got a few minutes of work into the kitchen. I'm almost done stripping the ROM. Stripping it isn't really the hardest part, it's properly stripping and categorizing all 13 different languages properly so that you can recook all of what I remove. Anyways, I'm working on it. I've also have to work on a lot of the extra functions of the kitchen. I might release an alpha, soon, though. Or at least a few ROMs based on it (stripped down) just so you guys can see what the base is like.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I know this is kind of random, but:

http://bit.ly/cx6kc Vote for my picture so I can win a scholarship.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Lol ok will do

And you're a photographist too???

---And you didn't even use the rule of thirds, Ivan!! You just put the lighthouse dead center.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Not a photographer. And the only reason why I chose that picture is because it's the nicest one I had on the laptop's hard drive. lol
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
So you did take it yourself? It's clear you're an amateur, since you didn't use the magic rule of thirds.

But I do like the greyscale effect on it.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
How about this one: http://bit.ly/eAGwj

I am not a photographer by any means. The "contest" isn't meant for photographers. :p
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
Always on vacation eh?

Maybe we should hire some secretaries, or perhaps some forced labor, for Ivan. :)

I wish I could sit around and take pretty pictures all day, but instead I have to do some work! lol
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
My girlfriend just showed me this one, I guess she entered the same contest as you Ivan. She took this one at her house.

http://www.brickfish.com/Pages/PhotosAlbums/PhotoView.aspx?qsi=16673217
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
The second one is, well, not exactly better. If you took the photo with the lighthouse on the left side of the pic, then it'd be better. And more sky, so the lighthouse is on the bottom left corner of the third lines.

I'm not a photographist either, I just know some things.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
That photo was taken while in Canada on a spur of the moment with my now ancient point and shoot. I can't go back and take another one.

Anyhoo, I only posted it here because tuition fees this semester are killing me (since I pay for all my tuition out of pocket and a third of my wife's out of pocket. (She has a partial scholarship.))

Working overtime for months to try to make up the cost is not fun.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
How about this one?

http://bit.ly/YPYcX Better picture? This was taken with my now ancient point and shoot.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
More the reason to hire forced labor :) .
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Mmm, I like that one a lot more. It's more interesting, has a feeling that it was taken with one of those lenses that show more of the environment but distort the image. The name of that lens escapes me, but they're used in skate vids a lot.

It doesn't seem like you used a special lens, though, it was just how the environment naturally was. That adds a really cool effect to it. So what makes that picture good is just how interesting the environment is. You were able to capture it all in the scene, too, so it works well. I liked that one.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] headcrab:
man, I think I'm dreaming, thank you so much :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
So far I just have the following to strip for the ROM and then the Beta will be out (with a stripped ROM and some of the tools ready.) (At the moment, work has had me extremely busy so I'm not sure how long this will take.)

AVDecDLL

Camera

HTCWMPPlug

LockStreamDRM

MFCDLL

mHub

PictureEnhancement

RingtonePlugin

ShareDLL

SymbolPad

TaskManager

PhoneCanvas

SmartDialing

I'm stripping EVERY program on the ROM. ALL of it.

It's all being carefully categorized then put together into packages with all the languages and registry keys so that you can reinstall each package if you wish to do so. Remember that I will not be adding any official packages unless I can find them for every language. (Or I might have to release English only package sets since those are the easiest ones to find.)

EDIT: I forgot to mention a few other things:

CommManager and other things...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Today, I got some time to work on this finally. Got very far in the stripping and categorizing and recreating of the 13 language program packs. I'm at 72MB of the stripped ROM with lots more stuff to strip out. It also has about 28mb free of RAM at startup (with a 6mb pagepool.) (This is with 6.1 5.2.21051 with no Flash or any other "useless" item installed.)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Sounds great! You're close to your JustStable Micro ROM (31.28 MB RAM).
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
With a 4mb pagepool, this is about 30.xxMB so I'm VERY close.

Oh and if I remove the SD card, I get more free RAM (SD card cache is set to 1mb), so actually, I'm about the same as JustStable Micro right now.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Alpha 0.1 reached:

ROM mostly stripped (a few things here and there that I still have to work on)

Stripped files turned into proper EXT packages for reinsertion with multi language support for 13 languages

And much much more.

I might release this early early alpha today.

Mind you, I am NOT going to release to you all the package you need to add this program or that program. I MIGHT bundle converters, but that's about it. I am slowly going to build up a set of EXT packages for all languages with all the programs, but it's a HUGE project, please do not ask me to add this or that just because you need it.

Cooks, you can use this to make ROMs, but please mention SJK anywhere in the post. I want other cooks to see that it's an option for them, too. ^_^

I will be expanding this to other devices, too... but that's still some ways to go.

Now for the bad news:

It's massive.... almost a gig large. I might separate the language packs to make it smaller... I'm going to lunch now so I'll finish this sentence later. lol

Oh, and I have to create an installer for it...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Lol, that's huge!

Make seperate language packs, if it's easy.

And yea, you don't even really need a CAB to OEM converter, but, might as well include it so that people don't complain. Although it's easiest to just search for OEM folders. (Except Java, that one is counted as Warez)

I'll test the kitchen too, for you.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Quick Question...

Does your kitchen have a Save/Load feature? So you could be working on multiple ROM's and manage them by just loading a different saved file that holds all of the configuration, XIP SYS OEM folder selections, etc?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Yes, it does.

It includes XIP settings, SYS packages, OEM packages, device, EXT packages, and umm... I can't remember what else.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Compressed, the WHOLE kitchen, with 21051, 23001 and 23016, including all 13 languages, it comes down to a small 175mb's! (A lot of repeated or very similar image files and MUI files.)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
+1 to 7zip!!

+100 to Ivan!!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] nonpaq:
IVAN, are you ready for 100 posts asking how to load your kitchen on their devices :D
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
LOL.

And 100 new threads of "My BEST-EST ROM!!!!!!".
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
And 100 posts of "I didn't follow ANY of the instructions but this is $@#% broken because it won't work."
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
And 100 posts of "I'm making funny jokes on the SuperJustKitchen thread!"
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
lol

I'm recompressing it, this time as a ZIP to see if I can create an installer using NSIS.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
The installer is only about 150mb but I'm gonna cut that and create multiple installers to make it easier when I start making this multi device or whenever I update something so everyone doesn't have to redownload everything from scratch.

I'll be busy for the rest of the night so I will hopefully be uploading this tomorrow.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] v5HMeca:
I can slim down your installer if you give me a copy of everything completely uncompressed.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
It's a NSIS installer with a solid LZMA compression. But I changed the way I'm distributing it, anyways. :p

What compression would you use if you did?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] v5HMeca:
It depends. If I were to make it into an EXE file, I'd go with one of these (this is the full command that I'd pass to 7zip):

If it's primarily binary data:

7za a -t7z -m0=lzma -mx=9 -mmt=off -m0=LZMA:d27:fb=128:mc=256 -r ".\output-file.7z" ".\input-directory\*"

If it's primarily text files:

7za a -t7z -m0=lzma -mx=9 -mmt=off -m0=BCJ2 -m1=LZMA:d27:fb=128:mc=256 -m2=LZMA:d24:fb=128:mc=256 -m3=LZMA:d24:fb=128:mc=256 -mb0:1 -mb0s1:2 -mb0s2:3 -r ".\output-file.7z" ".\input-directory\*"

If I were going to distribute it as a 7z file, I'd use LZMA2. LZMA2-compressed 7z SFX files are fickle creatures, otherwise I'd be using it for the distribution of EXE installers.

I repackage installers all the time, by the way, for the sole purpose of trimming the fat and getting the file size as small as possible without changing the installer engine (this is because I want the installations to still be upgradeable).

Here's an example of a repackaged codec pack that I maintain (with express permission from the author): http://www.doitrightconsulting.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=561

13.6 MB down from 19.5 MB.