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[G1 Android Development] ben29pickett:
Running out of space so sorry for the double post but im off for an interview... :)

ILL get home around 23:00 GMT (off out after :)) So, ill upload my results on how MSN has acted throughout the day and how well it runs :)

This will be a 2 part process, it will require you to adb some files across and A2SD is required, Ill explain all when i get home if its all still running

I've contacted Cyanogen and asked him whether he whould be intrested in this :) ill notify as soon as i get a reply :d
[G1 Android Development] pistolazzi:
I'm very interested in this!!!!

Please, write an howto!!!! :)
[G1 Android Development] rt45678:
Am i missing somthing?

I maybe missing somthing here but I'm in the UK and I use the IM app for MSN and AOL. Im. Using cyan 3.5.2 at present. What's the difference between what I do and what you want to do?
[G1 Android Development] pistolazzi:
If you aren't a T-Mobile customer you cannot connect...
[G1 Android Development] sephallen:
I'm a tmobile customer in the uk and I've never been able to use the native msn, it says my number is unable to be read from the sim card.

I hope you can get this working, if its anything like the native google talk app it would beat using meebo for msn!
[G1 Android Development] ben29pickett:
Basicly it is the native google talk app, im having a few difficulties with getting the file across and have android sucsesfully boot with it there, but it really cant be that hard
[G1 Android Development] sephallen:
Maybe you should try JF's dex decompiler and try to hack the latest IM.apk instead?
[G1 Android Development] sephallen:
Or actually getting the source for the IM.apk from android.com would be easier!

Then maybe you could remove the number sim card check so we can just bypass it?
[G1 Android Development] ben29pickett:
Im going to try working on this now, dont know much but im gonna give it my best shot... also im going to clean up the 1st post... the more idea's i can get the easier it will be for this to happen, my current plan is to take a build, look insidde IM.apk with a tool like winrar just like i do to theme and see some clues as to what makes it force to use sms then try change it to use data instead... i hope it works :)
[G1 Android Development] ben29pickett:
Im going to try working on this now, dont know much but im gonna give it my best shot... also im going to clean up the 1st post... the more idea's i can get the easier it will be for this to happen, my current plan is to take a build, look insidde IM.apk with a tool like winrar just like i do to theme and see some clues as to what makes it force to use sms then try change it to use data instead... i hope it works :) Then if this fails then im going to brainstorm some ideas down like i did 1st post and try them out one by one and inform you of my progress, i had this working once, i will get it again, you guys can test what i mean however, just grab jfrc30 build and flash it, then go to market download droidsans tweaktool and there should be a mod for im.apk, i've found what the mod is, where it goes and what it does, only the bad thing is, its 1.1 only witch means for this to work no cupcakeygoodness :(

Which is why i regret to inform, this isnt going to be the easy fix i imagined, It turns out all i did last time was get lucky when i flashed it accros, i got the old im.apk, rebooted and it stalled on android screen so thats deffo a no go

im going to try the new IM.apk idea now :) wish me luck :D
[G1 Android Development] ben29pickett:
I think i've made progress.. inside the IM.apk theres a file called android manifest

inside there theres alot! and i mean ALOT!! of text, but heres the best bit,

Read this

I know thats the permisions, so its not that, but i find it cool it says internet, that prooves one thing that it is possible to do it ?
[G1 Android Development] ben29pickett:
Ok even more progress, turns out, I know whats changed now between 1.1 and1.5 i think, Theres a new file called TmobileImplugin.apk or someting similar, im guessing that now MSN lies in there ?
[G1 Android Development] Muse.Invincible:
I live in Australia and used to be able to get the native IM client to work over WiFi, but even that doesn't work anymore, but that might have something to do with the internet permission??
[G1 Android Development] ben29pickett:
Hopefully we shall have it fixed d then soon :P
[G1 Android Development] ben29pickett:
I've decompiled the latest APK ermm.. now where do i start :L:L
[G1 Android Development] sephallen:
maybe cyanogen would be the one to ask, i think a lot of his rom is made up from the latest source that he compiles
[G1 Android Development] cyanogen:
I decompiled the TmoImPlugin and there is nothing in there at all that implements any of the IM protocols for data like Oscar. It's all just proxies to TMO services.
[G1 Android Development] sephallen:
Does that mean the checks aren't done in the app but on the server?
[G1 Android Development] kevev:
Good Job

Keep up the good work. I would also like to see this working. Meebo has been on the fritz lately.
[Touch GSM General] Xorro:
I wanted to remove all the contact from my HTC, so following some postings on the net, I renamed my pim.vol file to pim_old.vol and turned my phone off, then back on. Apparently it should then create a new pim.vol file.

However, my HTC has been stuck ont he Windows Mobile boot screen for at least 10 minutes now.

Is the phone screwed, or would you expect it to take a long time to reboot?

Thanks.
[Touch GSM General] Xorro:
Also, it made a 'pleep' noise when it brought up the Windows Mobile screen. I don't know if that is significant?
[Touch GSM General] tito12:
Hi there

Did you try soft reset, hard reset, take the battery out ? If yes can you get into bootloader and be ready to flash another rom ?
[Touch GSM General] Xorro:
Hi,

yes I have tried all of those things.

Even after a hard reset it does the same, gets to the Windows Mobile boot screen and stays there. I don't think it gets far enough into the boot to connect it to a PC, Activesync said there was something missing and couldn't connect.
[Touch GSM General] sasa66:
Hi

This is strange as you just renamed a windows file which should be corrected by a hard reset

Hard reset again and be patient (give it some time )

if not corrected Try flashing a rom from SD card
[Touch GSM General] Xorro:
I left it for an hour after the hard reset, and still nothing. I had to take the battery out in the end to turn the phone off.

I have no idea how to flash from a ROM on an SD card?
[Touch GSM General] tito12:
I think you'll find the answer here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=406721

Good luck
[Touch GSM General] jeremy89632:
If you hear the beep sound, you should be able to plug in your USB cable and activesync will know that your HTC is inserted.
[Touch GSM General] Xorro:
I have tried that but ActiveSync says there are components missing and then won't connect to the phone.
[Touch GSM General] jeremy89632:
Reinstalled Activesync?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] RufusThorne:
I recently flashed my Topaz to a 6.5 ROM, and I'm loving it. It's slick, smooth abnd fast. My only gripe is that no matter where I seem to put an MP3, I never have the option of choosing anything but one of the three default rings as a ringtone:

Ring01 - WindowsPhone

Ring02 - Velvet

Ring03 - Flame

They're all the same!!

Surely Microsoft hasn't locked this down?

"oh listen! someone's got a Windows phone! let's point and laugh and joke at them with their gay ringtone that can't be changed!"
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Graffen:
Theres two ways you can set the ringtone.

First you can select the mp3 file and from the menu select "Set as Ringtone"

or

Copy the mp3 file to /my documents/my ringtones and then select it from the ringtone list as normal
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] RufusThorne:
I don't have the option on right click menu to 'Set as Ringtone'

Placing MP3 in that location does not show it in the list.

Could this be a Cooked ROM issue?

I am using TOM Topaz from here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=526966
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] dsciel:
use file explorer, select and hold on the mp3 file, u will se options such as copy, paste and set as ringtones.

by the way " /my documents/my ringtones " this is the location in the device, not in SD card
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] RufusThorne:
Worked, thanks!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] duahaudo:
it's doesn't worked for me:(

I dont have "paste and set as ringtones", just only "pase" and just have 3 rings tone

Ring01 - WindowsPhone

Ring02 - Velvet

Ring03 - Flame

:((

Someone helpme plz!

I use rw6828, ROM WM 6.5
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] HandySpanner:
Do you have a "/my documents/my ringtones" folder? What's in it? If you don't, create one and see if it makes a difference. Oh and ":rolleyes:", to those who seem to think cooked roms are great and stable..
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] zooster:
I've a similar issue... Rom in signature.

I've set a .mid file as ring. Anyway it's present in \my documents\suonerie. But it doesn't work. When I call it uses a different ring. And if I go into sound and notification settings I can't play that .mid for a preview, but it's playable with wmp...wazzup??
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] argenta:
same problem with me I've made a folder on the sd card on my experia x2 named My Ringtones(this helped to put my mp3's there and the phone to recognize them as a ringtones) and when I enter my sounds and notifications it shows all the mp3 files I've put there and use as personalized rings and they work but sometimes when somebody call me my phone start ringing with some strange win mo default melodie(ugly SE melody) and I have to change it again with some of my own's but as u can guess it lasts just a few days and than the old story repeats........

any suggestions.....
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] gmorris:
Can't set ring tone for incomming calls

I loaded WM6.5 ROM on my Treo 750.

Everything is great except one issue...

... I cannot set the Incoming Call Ring Tone.

When I go into the options of the phone, it is set to "none".

I set it to "Vibrate and Ring", then set a ring tone.

When I save/exit, it reverts back to "none".

I tried mid ring tones, wma, and mp3.

I tried ring tone only and vibrate only also...

... But no matter what I set it to, it keeps reverting back to none.

It WILL NOT ring or vibrate on incoming calls.

The SMS, Voice Mail, Missed Call, and email notifications all work fine.

Oddly, when I go into settings, sound options, then notifications, the incomming call ring tone is set.

I can change it and it saves. But it has no affect.

And the options in the phone dialer still has "none" selected.

ANY Help would be great!

Thanks
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Bruce Inman:
Does the ring tone play in your settings?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] gmorris:
Thank you for the reply!

Yes, it plays when I press the play button in settings.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] fighter7139:
Maybe you have an app with call profiles and the silent or mute one is activated. Something like Spb Phone Suite.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Bruce Inman:
If you don't have another profile app installed, I would suggest a hard reset to fix the issue.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] magos21:
Hello

I have a WM 6.5 Phone with manila version 2.5.20113030.0 and ROM version 2.53.405.5 and I want to ask if is possible to have caller id function with sms ?

When someone call me the phone ring with different sounds for every one but when I receive a sms for all is the default sound can I change this?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] fighter7139:
For the first one:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4013807&postcount=21
[General Topics] Roflcopterrr:
Where to start... I'm going to get flamed a ****load for this but I could care less, all I'm doing is stating the truth.

Windows Mobile SUCKS and the ONLY reason that 6.5 is coming out is because Microsoft has finally (sort of) listened to us and made WinMo a much more user-friendly experience.

Ok that was a bit harsh lol, but out of the box, windows mobile is slow trash, and that's the whole reason XDA is here. To make windows mobile devices usable and reliable. iPhone requires no customization to be reliable. It does what it should do. It is a multimedia device, which is what 95% of custom ROMs are aiming at doing - making your phone an enjoyable, multimedia device. Maybe 10% of WinMo users actually use it for BUSINESS usage.

The iPhone has never been advertised as a "High-Powered business device", but it basically set standards for new phones. The only reason we have interfaces like TouchFlo3D and such is because HTC is trying to make WinMo devices as enjoyable as iPhones are! I love my Touch Pro and all, but let's face it - it will never be as intuitive and smooth as iPhone OS. If the iPhone were never released, we would still be stuck with Palm OS, The standard WinMo today screen, and Android & WebOS wouldn't even exist.

Why do you guys think S2U2 is so wildly popular? We all (or most of us, not all) want our devices to perform like an iPhone! If the iPhone was released with a QWERTY hardware keyboard, and it had a jailbreak, I KNOW that most of us would flock to it within days. There are many apps available for jailbroken iPhones that mimic the today screen, and by that, I mean Calendar appointments, text messages, e-mails etc are all viewable right when you turn on your device, on the Slide to Unlock menu.

HTC, do you care about your windows mobile users at all? Why are you force-feeding us your ****ty 528 Mhz qualcomm processors with no video drivers? Every phone you've released in the past year or so (which is a lot) has had the SAME EXACT SPECS. 528 Mhz Qualcomm, 288/256 MB of RAM, 512 MB Storage. Why do you do this? Because you know we'll buy your devices anyways? I know Apple is tight on security and such, leaving you with such little customizability of your phone, but it is a SMOOTH, ENJOYABLE experience! Anyone who says otherwise is just trying to justify spending $700 on an unlocked phone.

Most iPhone bashers have never actually used one in person. I've compared many HTC phones with it, and it is obviously a much smoother experience. Video recording is OUTSTANDING on the iPhone 3GS. I know it's technology we've had for years on older phones, but let's be honest, there's a reason Apple is releasing it just now. They wanted it to be perfect - and it is.

I'll remain loyal to HTC, but if Apple ever releases an iPhone with a qwerty keyboard, I know most of us will trash our HTC devices.
[General Topics] orb3000:
Oh no:eek:

Another comparing iphoney thread!

this is the number 54 thread...

I won´t never change to iphoney, too much reasons already have said about it, but the most important one

I won´t have the support of this great site

Respectfully,
[General Topics] sdlopez83:
Sadly I agree with you man, I also am tired with the poor gui, ancient msm qualcom processors. HTC is lacking majorly.

As is microsoft for that matter.

The only thing I will say is to wait for the tegra
[General Topics] josefcrist:
so go post on an iphone site.
[General Topics] crazy talk:
i agree with him completely.

the form factor of many of the Winmo phones are stunning. and the interfaces seem smooth and solid when skinned. i LOVE the looks of TouchFlo3D and the new TouchFlo3D2.5

but for all the comments and stuff i see on IPhone forums about Winmo having a greater selection of programs i am having an extremely difficult time finding programs that can do everything that is available now on the IPhone platform. much less be smooth and easy to use.

i cant imagine Roflcopterrr is here to troll, and i know i am not. but you cannot just twist the facts for your own purposes. (i'm talking about Winmo users claiming that their platform CANNOT run programs as smoothly as the IPhone because they can Multitask)
[General Topics] crazy talk:
double post. oops.
[General Topics] sdlopez83:
dont be a baby. And don't take it personal. Dude, I lashed out at someone in the past for this same post and almost got banned. But the truth is competition is not brewing excellence here. It is one sided. There is no comparison with the gui throughput of the iphone compared to our HTC devices. Until the tegra comes out we will be sitting here with thumbs up our asses. Thats the truth.

As it was said, mobile technology is moving at a turtles pace in the winmo world. There needs to be more of an effort in HTC and microsofts part. This post is only stating the obvious. OUR **** IS WEAK

also in america, our providers are ****ting on us with there frequent tardy releases of HTC phones. (minus the kaiser)
[General Topics] josefcrist:
i did not mean it in a hurtful way. i was just messing around you cant hear the tone of my voice.

I am pretty excited for the tegra and the snapdragon i think that they will do good things for windows mobile. it is hard for me to change to a different platform after having half a dozen windows mobile based devices in a row for the past 6 or so years.
[General Topics] Lokioki:
This is how it is.
[General Topics] Roflcopterrr:
Even more of a blow to HTC.. have you guys seen the latest OpenGL benchmarks for the 3GS?

http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=glpro&showhide=true&D1=Apple iPhone 3G S&D2=HTC P4600 Touch Pro&D3=HTC Touch Pro2

The difference in performance between HTC devices and the iPhone are very dramatic.. This is exactly what I mean. I'm sure the iPhone drivers were developed and production was rolling along on the 3GS around the same time as the Touch Pro2's release - so there shouldn't be any "but it's newer!" argument.

Come on HTC.. do you think we LIKE tearing, artifacting, and overall slow performance?
[General Topics] 66mustang:
The iPhone has caused a stir because it is accessible, like all Apple products - you open the box, switch it on and it works. The app store is just fantastic because it gives the poor saps that own an iPhone just one place to look for software.

The thing is, they need to look for software because the iPhone is lacking on so many levels - bluetooth, video etc etc. The deeper you dig the more crap you find the iPhone to be, you can only now forward a text message (that is ELEMENTARY), video has only just been made available, there are no minute minders etc etc etc.

Where us WM users lose out is the fact we have so much choice - we have free apps coming out of our ears you just need to search them out. Sure some a pants and lack development, but that's because their coded by someone in their bedroom.

MS and HTC need to trawl these forums and pick some key ideas (and the coders that go with them) put them all in a room and throw ten dollar bills at them. That way we will eventually get a smooth bug-free OS that looks fantastic and performs as it deserves to.

I can't imagine how MS have been able to get away with such a clunky mobile OS for so long, and the official mobile versions of Word and Excel are just pathetic - there a third party apps that just blow these away.

Come on MS, come on HTC, give us what we've been paying for for all these years.

PS my Kaiser is about 70% business 30% fun, but I wouldn't have it if I didn't have a business use for it.
[General Topics] slick69:
I have a $600 phone (HTC Touch Pro) that can only record CIF video at 15 fps, same as my dumbphone from 2004. HTC is crap.
[General Topics] 66mustang:
Yeah, I know, the iPhone is slick, but it ain't what it should be - just like the Win Mo hardware isn't.

HTC has been churning out the same spec "it'll do" kit for too long. BUT, at least we have GPS that generally works, we have turn by turn satnav in spades, car mounts from every vendor, we have choice. iPhone users do not have choice.

What you have to remember is that we are probably in a 5% of phone users, 'early adopters' I think is the phrase marketeers use. We see the opportunities for this kit, more than the manufacturers do. In 5 years time we'll still be complaining even though we'll have multitouch screens with HD video and decent battery life - it'll be "why can't I connect to my satellite broadband account?" That's what we're like.

No excuse for HTC and MS to not make the effort though.
[General Topics] Digitaltigre:
If it was just as simple as comparing processor performance and UI smoothness than this thread and this forum wouldn't be necessary. There's a lot more to it than that. I can't go Apple because it takes a special kind of person to own apple products and I'm not that kind of person. There are a million reasons why and I can't name them all off the top but here are some:

You can get a slingbox app for iphone but you cannot sling over 3g. Thanks Apple but no thanks. It's my data plan, I paid for it, I'm an adult and I'll decide how I want to use my kb!

They won't let apps be released that could potentially have naughty words or pictures in them. Who the hell do they think they are? I'm a grown ass man and I'll watch porn all day if I decide to do so.

They have been known to kill apps in their app store and then release OS upgrades with the same functionality.

How about download limits of 10mb over 3g? In a funny example of the bitter irony between wm and iphone - when my coworker wants to download something over 10mb at work I start my WMwifirouter and let him get on my 'network' to do his download. Much to AT&T and Apples chagrin he is still getting his download over 3g!

Bluetooth profiles? What's that for?

Did you hear about the new iphone? it's a phone - and it does mms, copy & paste and video recording. What a groundbreaking idea!

I don't keep my computers desktop cluttered with a bunch of icons. That isn't a good way of handling things. The only parts of the iphone ui that I admire are the scrolling and finger friendly aspects. The lack of detail and control over options drives me nuts.

It's like Apple sells you the hardware and then wants to sit on your shoulder and make you use it how they dictate.

Also, I wouldn't say that this site exists because of WM's shortcomings. I would say this sight exists because of the open nature of WM. I'm sure there are things iphone owners would love to tweak, but a sight like this is impossible in the apple world.

So for me Apples philosophy and business model are big net negatives when put head to head with the WM options. While you are correct about the hardware and performance advantages on iphone, keep in mind that these crappy Qualcomm processors are about to be forgotten. Nvidia's hardware is going to forever change the game. There is a leaked 2009 product list from HTC showing a device named Superstar putting a 3.7 inch display powered by Nvidia ap16. That device will be ridiculous. Also, Engadget has the scoop on an Nvidia Tegra powered device hitting US carriers this year for $199. Once these devices hit the market we will just need WM7 to follow along and the gap will be totally bridged.
[General Topics] Aisorik:
You mean like jailbreak?
[General Topics] Digitaltigre:
No, I mean more than warez and themes.
[General Topics] Aisorik:
What then? I'm really quite interested in differences between both platforms, specifically what they can/can't do at full potential.
[General Topics] crazy talk:
like??????
[General Topics] 66mustang:
Digitaltigre - He said what I wanted to, but couldn't.