yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bugdeyez:
TMO US Touch Pro 2 Radio for 3G??

I started that thread and have asked that it be removed after being pointed to this thread. The question is can the new TMO US Rhodium radio 3.45.25.14 not only work on the HD, but can it provide me with the bands needed to get the 3G signal. TMO US uses the 1700/2100 spectrum for their high speed connections. A service rep from HTC said that a different radio MIGHT be able to allow for the extra bands.

I was informed about this thread and am now posting the same question....any thoughts??

Before I learned about having to security unlock I did try to flash the radio.

As of yet I have not found anywhere to download the radio that TMO US currently uses on the TP2. I did however find a test rom with radio 3.44.25.17. I am in no way well versed to do this on my own, but did some research and gave it a shot, again before knowing about having to security unlock. Using NBHextract I was able to get to, what I think is the radio file:

02_GSM.nb. I then used NBHgen to try and make a new installer for just the radio. Following a brief tutorial I created a text file with the following:

Blackstone

00000000

3.44.25.14

USA

300,02_GSM.nb

According to the tutorial the # 300 represents the radio "location". I do not know if that is the correct number for the HD

It did create an NBH file, when I tried to run it all I got was an error code "0058002". Does anyone know what that code means?? I didnt find any answers when searching.

That is as far as I have gotten. I am currently waiting for a response form Olipro regarding the unlocker.

Now after reading through this thread I dont know if this attempt should be followed through with because of this:

Does that have to do with flashing the radio without unlocking the HD first? Is it an actual issue with all radios from those devices?

I also have to learn about this hex editing thing and rehashing. Are they the same thing? But, before I worry about all that, let me first get my HD unlocked and I guess see what happens from there.

I would appreciate any thoughts as to whether or not this is an experiment worth trying.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] manxexile:
Radio 1.16.25.48 flashed

Having installed the above radio to my device I have at last been able to get GPS signals on TTN7 all other efforts to this end havebeen of no use!

Here are my details ->

ROM - TML_HD_20_WM6.5_23017

Country - UK

Location - South Leicestershire

Provider - O2 Marginal Improvement was - good before

GPS - Signal previously zero now up to TEN strong

WiFi - Definite improvement in signal strength - picking up new spots.

General comments-

Vast overall improvement on my device as stated above I had no satellite signals at all but now tip top.

Thanks to all concerned.

May I also add that very few contributors use the header bar which can make reading through a thread a nightmare, not knowing who said what to whom about what!

PLEASE include a header!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kevin8622:
No change for me... I still need my headset to receive TMC
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] solarbird:
Does someone know will this xperia radio (1.16.25.24) will be available for all blackstone users (not only for someone who has security unlocked blackstone)?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Algus Helm:
I have Olinex hard spl 1.56 instaled on my touch hd? Is it already SIM unlocked? I've flashed custom ROM with no prob.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
This radio will ONLY work on Security Unlocked devices as it is not an HD radio. It was never meant for the HD and will not work on the HD with this tool.

Sorry mate
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] djcedric:
If you want to flash this new radio,HSPL olinex is NOT enough!you need to security unlock your device with the security unlocker and not with HSPL wich is not the same...Look in this sticky thread
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Already answered above as well as numerous other times in this thread. To flash this radio you need Security Unlock. Nothing else will work!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Algus Helm:
Thanks for the answer! Is there anyway to know if my HD is already unlocked?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Once phone is security unlocked it will say 'Security Unlocked' on top of bootloader screen in bold writing
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] solarbird:
Thx for fast reply :)

Is it possible that HTC will release this radio so everyone can have it?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] djcedric:
please read this thread and go few posts back...go in tricolor screen(bootloader) and look if you have SECURITY UNLOCKED at the top of the screen.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
Only time will tell :cool:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fards:
SECURITY UNLOCK YOUR HD before trying this radio

how many more times does it need to be said.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmorisa:
you must have mistaken between sim unlock and security unlock.

if you hd is sim unlock, it does not mean it is security unlock. you can check it at the bootloader screen.

if at the top at the bootloader screen says "Security Unlock" then you flash this radio. keep reading at the first post and you will understand.

regards,

morisa
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] stokesie:
doesnt mean it`s security unlocked

read post from begining & you will be enlightened
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
IF your phone is Security unlocked it will state in bootloader in Big Red writing along the top

SECURITY UNLOCKED.....otherwise it is not security unlocked.

This has been posted many times before and I would advise you to try reading through parts of thread and searching before posting. If you continue to post with searching you are basically ignoring forum rules and as a result will be warned, followed by a temp ban.

This applies to everyone. Consider this the warning!!

Ta

Rick
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tamiroff:
before you go all over me.

looked in this thread and other treads.

didn't see any place that clearly distinguish between sim and security unlocked and specify they are two different things.

more over in olipro thread where you can get the security unlocked code he writes "Get SIM unlocked Here" not "get security unlocked here" which contribute to the confusion.

so it is worth to point that fact for people who has unlocked sim device and not security unlocked device.

cheers.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
I've modified Olipro's thread so it states 'security unlock'
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] djcedric:
and i have modified this thread to refer to olipro's thread and mentioned how to see if your phone is security unlocked ;)

now i hope we will be quit of the questions "security unlocked or not " :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Appreciate that.

Ta

Rick
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] LewxX:
Is it possible that this Radio will come official for Blackstone, someday?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Would doubt it as it came from Xperia X1, and was never intended for the HD
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sl1200:
I already asked this here before wihout any reply, but I am still wondering why not? What is the reason that HTC wont't use its Blackstone to the max, if the hardware can apparently take it?

- licenses?

- law restrictions to signal strengths?

- they don't care?

- ???

Here in Europe, if you buy a very fast car, it is limited to 250km/h, but you can unlock this at your local tuning cargarage.

And then about the confusion in this thread: a part of it is also caused by all those friendly answers telling us that your phone is security unlocked when you see a certain line in the bootloader mode, BUT your answers did not include that when your phone is NOT security unlocked, you will not see any extra line of text in bootloader mode. This may look obvious to most of us, but not to all of us, hence another reason for confusion. :)

Keep up the good work on these radio's guys!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jfran:
Can this be used on a security unlocked Diamond, or will other modifications be required
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] djcedric:
dont try this on diamond,this one is for blackstone only!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] core7x:
yeah...

after the long time waiting for this radio...

today i am purchase security unlock and flash for 1.16.25.48 radio ..

and this morning .. i can watch youtube HD without any lagg ...

here my detail

* Radio version: 1.16.25.48

* With ROM: CustomROM-7.1 (unreleased)

* Country/Location/Network: Malaysia / Kuala Lumpur / Maxis

* Battery life: No Yet testing, will reporting later

* GPS: No Yet testing, will reporting later

* GPRS/3G/EDGE/HSDPA: extra 2 bar signal, meaning im in the full bar signal

* WiFi signal: Good

* General comments: other problem and survey will report later
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigE:
1.16.25.48

Anyone trying this radio in the US? I assume there are only few of us around a US network with this phone.. Got the US 3G Telstra version phone and have tried it. I don't see a hugh improvment for the performance, but it is faster for GPS fix and 3G network.

However- it seems my battery is drained pretty quickly. as for reception- I had most of the time full bars before, so I can't really tell if it makes a difference..

I am going to try the 1.14.25.55 now... I can't afford battery drain in 6 hours...

BigE

Please note this is the case in the US.. if you are in another region, it may not apply to you...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] walkergeri:
Strange, i cant´t use this 1.16 Radio ROM

Error 290

"This is not the right ROM for your device" is written after flashing.

What is wrong?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lazy79:
tried the 1.16 Radio ROM in germany and its really working quite good, better than the 1.14 before. thank you very much.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] walkergeri:
but why can´t i flash this new Radio ROM?

Error 290

"This is not the right ROM for your device" is written after flashing.

What is wrong?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] djcedric:
maybe because of your phone is not security unlocked?look at first post and read!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] walkergeri:
no , it is unlocked...it is a different error message, Error 290

"This is not the right ROM for your device"...

do i need a rilphone.cab first? I have SPL 1.56 is this ok?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] djcedric:
if you have HSPL then yes it is ok and if your phone says security unlocked at the top of the screen in bootloader then yes its ok to.

are you shure this 2 things are on your phone?you dont need the rilphone for this,there is no rilphone yet for this radio.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] core7x:
bro...what do u mean this radio have no rilphone ?

how about hex edit from xperia itself..maybe someone can do for it..

is there have another good radio than this...maybe from the latest model
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] djcedric:
i mean this radio have no rilphone 1.16 yet because nobody have create it ...but working good with rilphone 1.14.

i not hex edited radios,there are other users,moderators busy with this...maybe these guys can answer you...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] walkergeri:
Yes, i think, i´ll get my money today, but how can i pay easy? i wanna transfer money via bank account. i dont have credit card yet.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
You can pay via Paypal online which is safe, secure and reliable.

Ta

Rick
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fards:
why would you want to hex edit the experia radio? I've already done it.

if you're thinking that you can get around the security unlocking then no you can't other wise I would have done it already.

the 1.16 is the best radio so far, I've tested loads which is why I decided to share it.

Sometimes I think I shouldn't bother.. the amount of ungrateful moaners that there are on here.

I've even done walkthrough on how to hex edit radios, but searching is too much like hard work isn't it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] core7x:
thank bro for share .. im agree with u
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] zaimond:
Worse performance?

I checked the *#*#364#*#* thing before flashing, and after.

Before the flashing my RSSI 1 number was jumping between -85 and -70.

Now its jumping between -95 and -85

I live in Norway (Trondheim), and my provider is OneCall (NetworkNorway)

Any tips? Should I give it a few days or does anyone know a radio that will work better?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] djcedric:
Are you shure your phone was on exacly the same place when you have check the rssi???

is your reception better or not?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bimbilator:
Sim-Unlock

I am getting confused by this unlocking business.

I used http://blackstone.sim-unlocker.com/ promoted in this forum a while ago to unlock my Touch HD. Worked a treat.

Now I am thinking about updating the radio and find out that I probably need to security unlock my phone as well?

Is this correct and will I have to pay again and us Olipro's unlocker :confused:

I don't get the security unlocked message in boot loader so I gues I only got sim unlocked?

I have no problem with paying for these services as there are some great developers and I have no problem supporting any, I just don't like paying twice for the same thing, must be a Yorkshire thing! :rolleyes:

Cheers

BimB
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Security unlock & sim unlock are not the same thing. To use an unofficial radio not meant for the HD you need to security unlock your device first or you may brick device.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] core7x:
im also face the same problem... but READ CAREFULLY what that software mention before installation that unlock :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pretenderr:
I would also like to know this?

Please answer!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] D25002011:
After a while, I still didn't see any 1.16 battery tests. Anybody?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
The unlock doesn't actually cost that much, and if you are a contributing forum member or have donated to XDA its free.

This unlock tool allows you to flash a radio which is not meant for the HD and should give you better reception, GPS fix and possibly better battery life (though this does vary depending on user & location).

Now, you can either complain that this is too expensive (which its not) and go elsewhere or bite the bullet, buy the tool and flash the radio.

Either way, and this goes to everyone, if users dont want to use this tool & radio, please go elsewhere and stop spamming this thread!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Everyone that has used this (that I'm aware of) has noticed an improvement though degree of improvement varies from person to person as well as location. Scan back this thread and read peoples results and then make your own decision on whether or not you think its worth it. This is usually what most people do!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
MOD EDIT

ok folks I've scanned back a number of pages and deleted a lot of useless posts, repeated questions etc.

Can I remind everyone for the last time to read the start of this thread, and try searching before posting as your solution has most likely already been posted.

To use these radio's your phone must be security unlocked, not sim unlocked, two different things.

When your phone is security unlocked it will state 'Security Unlocked' in bootloader

Ta

Rick
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vire825:
i have flashed the radio 1.16.25.48 perfectly, do i need to run rilphone.dll 1.14.25.24?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] abdullah1982:
if u would have used olipro unlocker in the first place then it unlocks sim also
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] abdullah1982:
no need of doing that. the radio just works fine
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vire825:
thnx very much for the reply abdullah

HTC Touch HD

Rom: Energy ROM 20090830 Standard

Radio: 1.16.25.48 (Needs Security Unlocking by Olipro)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] saluhri:
Used ROM: 1.57.831.1 (47324) WWE

Protocol: 52.67.25.35U

Radio: 1.16.25.48

Battery - Result of 8 days test, swapped between diff radios many times without any problem. If SPB Mobile Shell 3 active then with 1.16 battery life is a slightly better than with 1.14 (5% diff during 4 hours) but a bit worse than with 1.12 (3% diff during 4 hours). When SPB MS3 is not active, the same result but 2-2% diff. during 4 hours. SPB MS3 definitely causes more consumption - with radio 1.16 - phone (GSM) on, BT on, WiFi off, device is on & standby, no activities (even a phone call), during 6 hours battery drops from 100% to 97%. Although, with playing SPB MS3 widgets and switching between tabs, while WiFi is also on, battery drops almost 20% during 30 min. With normal use - phone and BT always on, used iGO 8 2 times 28 km a day, updated SPB wheather 2 times a day via WiFi, checked gmail aut every 4 hours - I only could try once this scenario so far with 1.16 & battery lasted 2 days. Fact, I always charge battery at night (7-8 hours) when the device is switched off. I have been doing this since 8 month I bought the PDA except the cases when used iGO 8 for longer distance nav. BTW, with 1.12 iGO could nav me apprx. 280 km without charging.

BT and WiFi - works charm with 1.16 - although I did not have any problem either with 1.14 or with 1.12 before at all.

Phone reception: It is subjective, use only GSM, reception is the best with 1.16 (3 bars) in one of my rooms where for instance with 1.14 there was no reception at all. BTW, 1.14 was the worst I have had so far.

Hope it helps to convince anyone who was skeptic for switching to 1.16. :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] d.cortez:
in pic 1 below is the Field Test for my Telstra HD and it shows an RSSI 1 value of 255 dbm with my 1.14 radio. before i test the 1.16 radio, can anyone tell me if this value is good, average, bad? also included is a pic of my bootloader showing "others" what their respective bootloaders should look like when your device has HardSPL 1.56 Olinex AND it's Security Unlocked.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] core7x:
stick that picture on the first page so other members not issue the same things again :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] d.cortez:
xperia 1.16 radio initial tests

* Radio version: 1.16.25.48 Xperia

* With ROM: Miri Manila 2.5 v 7.1

* Country/Location/Network: USA/Dallas,TX/at&t

* Battery life: testing in progress

* GPS: iGo8 satellite locks in 12 secs on cold boot (vs. 23 secs on 1.14 radio)

* GPRS/3G/EDGE/HSDPA: no measurable difference, same signal strength at home, needs further tests. speed tests within +-10% of typical test range (see pic below)

* WiFi signal: faster throughput compared to 1.14 Blackstone radio

* General comments: all seems to be working at the moment. phone does not get warm (unless GPS or Wifi in use). didn't get warm with 1.14 radio either.

UPDATE: 8 hrs later, 45 text msgs, no calls and 23 emails (no exchange emails, and hotmail getting checked every hour), my battery was down to 26%. based on my typical usage pattern, my phone wouldn't last 8 hrs with calls and emails. gotta go back to radio 1.14

Field Test RSSI on 1.16 is 26 compared to 17 on 1.14 (don't know if this is significant):
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] francis85:
Hmmm people, when it says 255 or Unknown, it means Fieldtest is not working..

I've had that problem forever, but for some reason with Topix ROM it is the first time I get actual readings.

My reception has not changed at all with this radio though (In Montreal, Canada)

In my house my reception only ever gets 2 bars.

This is what I get with Fieldtest on my T8285:

With 1.14.25.24:

ARFCN: 141
LAC: 2300
RAC: 01
MNC/MCC: 30920
RSSI: 20
NCell Info1: 715 (-95 dbm)
NCell Info2: 137 (-97 dbm)
NCell Info3: 133 (-98 dbm)
NCell Info4: 145 (-100 dbm)
NCell Info5: 568 (-103 dbm)
NCell Info6: 130 (-103 dbm)
RX Quality: 99
Frequency Hopping: Not active
Last registered network: 30920
TMSI: a4062383
Periodic Location Update value: 1530
Band: 3: 850
Channel In Use: CCCH
RSSI 1: -88 dbm
Last call release cause: N/A

With 1.16.25.48

ARFCN: 141
LAC: 2300
RAC: 01
MNC/MCC: 30920
RSSI: 22
NCell Info1: 133 (-94 dbm)
NCell Info2: 137 (-95 dbm)
NCell Info3: 568 (-96 dbm)
NCell Info4: 715 (-97 dbm)
NCell Info5: 131 (-100 dbm)
NCell Info6: 129 (-100 dbm)
RX Quality: 99
Frequency Hopping: Not active
Last registered network: 30920
TMSI: a4062383
Periodic Location Update value: 1530
Band: 3: 850
Channel In Use: CCCH
RSSI 1: -88 dbm
Last call release cause: N/A

The phone was not moved between both radios. Will have to see for the battery life.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] walkergeri:
the same RSSI 1: -88 dbm

so not really better the new radio rom
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] djcedric:
DONT look at RSSI but LOOK at RSSI 1 at the bottom!!!!!!look in first post...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] d.cortez:
i have to question the values i'm seeing then... 255 is that realistic? there was no change in that value when using both radios. also after 8+ hrs use today, including 62 txt msgs, 19 emails and 12 minutes of calls, i have 61% battery left using the 1.14 radio from the most recent Telstra ROM (same radio on my device before flashing the 1.16 Xperia Radio) think i'll stick with the 1.14 radio for sure....
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] francis85:
255 means it cannot get a reading. see my post above
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] d.cortez:
thanks... looks like i have to set the phone to GSM in the Network & UMTS settings to get the appropriate readings. the pic on the left is the Teltra 1.14 Radio and the one on the left is the xperia 1.16 Radio. minor differences exist, don't know if they'd impact reception, etc.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
Don't think that :cool: For every ungrateful moaner, there are loads of grateful users (including myself) that have benefited greatly from radio 1.16.

I guess it is a fact of life that people don't bother to show their appreciation whereas they happily moan away as soon as they see an opportunity to do so.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gsmdb:
If you did use Olipro unlock method then you got the unlock program, just rerun it to secure-unlock your phone. In case you didn't save the progr. go to Oilipro unlock web site, put your e-mail and imei nr. the you can download the prog. again.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] marvi0:
battery

so it appears in terms of better signal WiFi the 1.16 radio is better but in terms of battery consumption it appears the 1.14 is better well been using 1.16 for a while an am jus going to try 1.14 for battery cause all I really care about is a radio that gives better battery
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] D25002011:
Thank you! After all, this is what I wanted to hear :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
This probably depends on location/operator as well. I would say that my battery life is about the same, maybe better but definitely not worse, which is expected as my battery doesn't get as hot as with 1.14. It did help me with dropping calls in low signal levels and that is basically why I would keep using 1.16.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Not as simple as that. As stated by Makbil above their is other factors you need to include including operator & location as this will also affect signal, gps fix as well as battery.

I have noticed a slight improvement in everything (gps fix, signal, battery strength) using 1.16 radio, whilst others in different locations using different operators notice slightly different results.