yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] dtomazini:
I had the same problem. I could not use the ROM PTG.

I have installed HardSPL 1.22 and the 1.65.29.22 radio.

Other ROM´s like "Clean Black 6.5.2 SPA (0C0A)", "New NIKE Kitchen WM6.5 23016 / HTC Mega Port NEW 24.09.2009", or the "[31-10-2009][WWE] FINAL Insomnia v3.20 - 21869 & v3.25.1 - 23081" works fine. Unfortunately they are not in Portuguese.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] neos62:
(0419) support?Russian lang?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] euplio:
TRANSLATE

I can hepl you to translate this rom in italian
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] edvarDOS:
Hi. How is it going on with 0419 Russian Lang ? What is the % of progress at the moment? May be you need help - I'd like to offer.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] animelover:
Currently there's no need for your help 'cause I'm making the "Base ROM" at the moment! I want to finish it till christmas in GER and WWE and then you could help me in translating it!

But thanks anyway for your offer! :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] dtomazini:
For the ROM in PTG, you have a fix for the problem of the phone does not boot?.

Thanks
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] animelover:
No, this ROM is now temporarely discontinued and my v7 will follow tonight! But not in PTG, not right now!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] euplio:
here you are!!!!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] The Stranger:
Hi animelover,

Your V7 rom is for NIKI100? :D

I use your latest one already, cant wait any more ;) where is it....
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] sej75:
Phone reception problem

Hello,

I install this rom on my phone. It's very well and all is OK except one pb, my phone reception.

For exemple, when i'm in my house, no network received ... The reception is very very bad ...

Have you a solution ? Is this problem related with the radio or another component, and what component ?

Another question : is-it possible to install another RADIO without re-install all ?

Thank's
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] The Stranger:
Bitte ein Bit :p
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] animelover:
Okay guys, v7 is online with a new thread! :)

But only in GER for now, WWE and other languages will follow as soon as possible!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] derDanny:
Little Question, i switched back to CB6.5.2, now some system options are missing, energy for example, how can i get it back?

Kurze Frage, bin jetzt zurück bei CB6.5.2 und es fehlen einige System Optionen, z.B. Energieverwaltung, wie bekomm ich die wieder zurück?

Edit: Ich kann mir auch selbst shortcuts erstellen, müßte nur wissen wo die Anwendungen liegen und wie sie heißen.
[Touch HD General] milan_ns:
I'm a bit anoyed with the slowness of Touch HD so am considering moving to Hero or iPhone.

iPhone seems to be very quick, but I don't really like Apple's lock-it-down concept, so if UI speed on Hero is comparable to iPhone, I'd rather go that way.

Any input on this?
[Touch HD General] kingofkrunk16:
Hero all the way, more options as such.. however there are some bugs with flash otherwise go for it... i wud still stay with the HD, bigger screen/better reso, everytin else is the same as the hero, cept the digital compass - if u have gps, its rather useless.

hope i helped.
[Touch HD General] Rudegar:
I would prob view the options in person rather then

judging from youtube clips and the likes
[Touch HD General] imy300:
iPhone 3gs can be jailbroken now...if you want to go down that route
[Touch HD General] playdo:
I can't understand what everybody means with "the Touch HD interface is so slow"

How could it be much faster? Or is there such a big gap between Touch HD and iPhone in UI speed?

Maybe I can try an iPhone myself in the next days to look for big differences, but atm i can't imagine, that it would be so much faster.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if an App has to load a certain amount into the memory, there MUST be a small lag before the program opens.

And I think the Touch HD handles Apps and especially its TouchFLO interface very well and fast. So I have no need to even compare to iPhone or something similar because I'm happy :)
[Touch HD General] milan_ns:
Well UI on Touch HD is slow(-er than iphone 3gs)! Did you not expirience the lag between your action and reaction, when you e.g. move between the tabs, or when you answer the call (veeery annoying), when your going through the contacts, etc?

Iphone seems to do all these things with no noticable dealy.

Also browsing on iPhone is much better (read: faster & better screen rendering and navigation) even though screen resolution is lower.

I guess I'll have to wait for Hero to get into the shops and test in person...
[Touch HD General] Dalboy:
Whats your memory usage like while you are having slow responses from the touch? I don't use TouchFlo and my HD is very fast apart from some of the larger apps like tom tom they all open straight away.
[Touch HD General] playdo:
Maybe its because I don't got a direct comparison myself.

But for me, there is no disturbing lag which would me force to buy the iPhone :D

Like I said, hopefully I can test it myself and compare.

I will give instant feedback after that.
[Touch HD General] adell_:
I think iPhone is not exactly faster, but it's much more smooth, it needs slightest touch/multi-touch to response, whereas for HTC Touch HD we have to use more force.

You should try iPhone and you'll get what I mean :).
[Touch HD General] brusko1972:
I dont know about hero but iphone resolution is HVGA 480x320 which is lower than a VGA 480x640. if your used to HD screen resolution 480x800 then you will find HVGA pixelated. I would never buy a phone with screen resolution lower than VGA no matter how fast the UI. Remember iphone os is not the same as wm which loads a lot of things on startup due to its multi-tasking capability. try turning off touchflo that would make your HD a lot faster. Keep your HD which is superior to iphone 3Gs
[Touch HD General] enyaj:
I suggest you try the cooked ROMs if you haven't. They can be very fast and stable. Personally, I have used both iPhone and I have Touch HD with Dutty's WM 6.5 Muchos R4 Rom, I would never think of switching to an iPhone. My Touch HD is very responsive and Fast even with TF3D enabled.
[Touch HD General] heartofwolf:
I'm going to wait for another htc phone based on android sense but with a new procesor :)
[Touch HD General] heartofwolf:
Totally agree. I use HD and Iphone and thanks to Dutty's WM6.5 R4 I like HD much more!
[Touch HD General] Rudegar:
"I think iPhone is not exactly faster, but it's much more smooth, it needs slightest touch/multi-touch to response, whereas for HTC Touch HD we have to use more force."

sounds more like a capative vs. restience touch screen hardware difference

some of the andriod devices like capative touch screens too
[Touch HD General] Paddee:
I've had me HD for about a month now.

Sure it's slow with some things. (not much though)

But, I'm sure the iphone has it's issues also?

The touch can be adjusted to suit, many things can be adjusted. And there are many apps to load and custom HD to your liking.

I did find, having about 9 apps runnig, started to show a little more 'slowness' than norm, but compared with my old S730, it flies along :)

I spent ages deciding between the HD and new iphone.

I'm plenty happy to get the HD, not wishing I got the iphone.
[Touch HD General] andes83:
I haven't seen Hero yet in person but would suggest to wait for the new processors they'll be ready in a month or two and your HD is going to "survive" till then.Personally i won't change it for awhile I like tweaking it and it now has a "soul" it's like a pet compared to the iphone which is like a "tool" . :)
[Touch HD General] mallman:
i would wait until senseUI comes out and able to be put on your HD and see what you think
[Touch HD General] Psygnosis84:
The smoothness of the iPhone is because of the coding. If you want to see the same degree of smooth scrolling then install PhoneEx for your WinMo and you will see what i mean.

Everything you do is similar to the iPhone smoothness.

WinMo is easily capable but it needs competent programmers, like the creators of PhoneEx to make it decent.
[Touch HD General] jigners:
have you tried using teh cooked ROMS in the forums? or perhaps using HD Tweak! then you'll notice how really fast the blackstone is!
[Touch HD General] Psygnosis84:
As mentioned before, install the phone extention program PhoneEx and you will see how wrong that is.
[Touch HD General] johnpatcher:
Have you ever tried to find out the directions by GPS itself while you are standing? GPS is rather useless then, it just works out when you are moving.
[Touch HD General] funk1980:
Yes, the iPhone is faster or feels faster or has better coding or whatever. It's a much faster experience and that's what counts IMO. Specially now with the new 3Gs. And then I'm not even talking about it's 3D capabilities, the MUCH better (video)camera or the amount of programs that are developed for it.

And yes, although you have to void the warrenty and risk having a lot of bugs, a custom ROM (I use Dutty's 3.9) makes the HD MUCH better. A different today plugin can improve the speed a lot too (funny how a lot of plugins are based on the iPhone :)).

But the foundations are wrong here. Microsoft had 3 years(!) time to come up with a OS that would kill the iPhone and all we got was WinMo 6.5! Come on. And HTC rushed the programming for drivers and touchFlo and was to cheap to buy descent 3D drivers from Quallcomm. Thank god for all the great people here on XDA for cooking up all kinds of improvements.

The new iPhone OS now supports navigation, copy/paste, bluetooth, good exchange support etc. So I still have my HD but I will be picking up an iPhone in a few weeks.

My 2 cents.
[Touch HD General] JanSchotsmans:
I only need 1 single reason for not wanting an iPhone from a technical standpoint(I have a billion reasons I hate the thing but 1 thing is the absolute heck and no frigin way deal breaker)

MULTITASKING

IT DOES NOT FRIGIN EXIST ON AN IPHONE IN TWOOTHOUSAND AND FREAKIN NINE
[Touch HD General] newuser888:
I think iPhone does not only feel faster. It IS faster.

HTC's product are based on ARM11, whereas iPhone 3GS uses Cortex A8, which is superior and technologically more advanced processor.

Looks like not only is its CPU superior, the GPU is also way more advanced than say HTC Touch HD's or the Hero's. Certainly the capacitive touch screen helps to go a long way in making it more useable, but I think it's more than that.

For detailed testing and benchmark, see this report

So far, nobody is able to dispute the findings of the above report yet.

I understand that you can multitask once you jailbreak your phone and install the Backgrounder.
[Touch HD General] Slothie:
Wouldn’t you be better off comparing your Iphone 3GS to other new releases like the Toshiba TG01 (Winmobile) and the Sony Ericsson Xperia Racheal (Android) instead of the HD which is rather outdated and the hero which is cheaper?
[Touch HD General] JanSchotsmans:
I can make any android or WM device better then an iphone when I jailbreak, mod, tweak, custom rom, ... it.

So your point?

The iPhone has no multitasking ability nativly, one of the most disgusting and typical Apple bussines practices, making it seem like its your privilege to use their devices, you never get real ownership of their devices and you can't do what you want with their devices.

I know its possible to do multitasking on iPhone hardware and the underlying software, Apple just won't let you.
[Touch HD General] maati:
iPhone 3G was slower than the Touch HD.

I know that because I've used both for several months before I decided to sell the iPhone 3G and keep the Touch HD.

iPhone 3GS is now faster (one year later). However, there's still no multitasking. Applications that are already running in the background open much faster and don't require going back to the homescreen every time you switch betwen applications.

This fall, lots of better (i.e. faster and more powerful) devices will arrive. You can't really compare a 2008 device with an ARM11 processor to a device with the ARM Cortex architecture.

Compared to most devices with the same hardware, the iPhone will lose, because the OS is slow and lacks multitasking.
[Touch HD General] newuser888:
Of course, new technology will always come up with faster and faster processor. Next year, we will see Tegra but we are also likely to see iPhone with Cortex A9 with quads processor in it, (or they may decide to NOT down clock the A8) so only when both products are out could we make comparison again.

But, as for the devices on the current topic goes, I think the answer is clear.
[Touch HD General] leobox1:
i wont love iphone..

no freedom to bluetooth my stuffs etc etc but yes its cool looking etc.. but
[Touch HD General] brusko1972:
All the jailbreaking in the world wont make the screen WVGA!
[Touch HD General] Slothie:
Thanks a lot. I just spat coke all over my keyboard!
[Touch HD General] newuser888:
So you guys would NEVER ever consider HTC Hero? It has the same screen resolution as iPhone but smaller screen size than iPhone. I wonder how the majority of winmo users cope with the 2+ inch(which is 1/4 of iPhone's screen area) QVGA screen if it is so critical to have that high a resolution. I suspect that most users would not have any issue with that, although I understand that we HD owners are a little spoilt.

Hero and iPhone both have capacitive touch screen, which is a hugh advantage. So, I think that each to his own, one has to decide what really are the important factors when buying a phone.
[Touch HD General] Slothie:
Bang! You hit it on the head. Why some people think their requirements/spec are what make a phone the best for everyone is beyond me.
[Touch HD General] newuser888:
Do you guys know that you can even run window 95 on iPhone? It's hardware is THAT powerful. But don't expect it to be useable though.

http://goodiphone.com/2009/07/windows-95-on-iphone/

Don't know who in the right mind would want to do that though but I thought it is an interesting little piece of fun news to share with all of you. Have fun watching :D
[Touch HD General] Slothie:
Did you know you can run Vista on the HTC Shift...
[Touch HD General] newuser888:
Is HTC Shift a phone or more like a sub-notebook?
[Touch HD General] Slothie:
You can use it as a phone so I guess you can class it as a mobile but it has a 7 inch screen so the apple fanboi's are going to rave its too big to be a mobile. Personally I wouldn't mind having something that big to get a GB of memory and a OS that run x86 code instead of CE.

I wish I could afford one, apparently you can run Windows 7 on them too.
[Touch HD General] maati:
I'd definitely choose the Hero over the iPhone and maybe even over the Touch HD.

Why? It has a better OS than the iPhone and it has a better camera.
[Touch HD General] brusko1972:
My suggestion would be to look at all aspects of the phone then choose the one you like best. Everyone is different so you cant really ask people to choose what phone suits you best. All they can tell you is what phone they like best. play with all 3 of them then choose the one thats best for you. For me screen resolution is very important. I have an ASUS A636 PDA with QVGA screen and watching movies on that thing is not very good. So a phone with less than VGA screen is not going to cut it for me.
[Touch HD General] newuser888:
Slothie,

I'm confused. According to this, it cannot make phone calls. Only data transfer is supported. It is more of a notebook I think. Anyway, fanboism or not aside, how is it possible to use this as a phone, honestly? Do you really think it can be used as a phone? Even with bluetooth headset, would you want to lug this hugh phone everywhere you go assuming it has the battery life to go with it.
[Touch HD General] Slothie:
Here you go

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=395

I'm not saying you can't argue its not a phone but you can make calls on it. I have a Metrologic barcode scanner on my desk that is Windows CE 5 and you apparently can't make phone calls on that either but I use it all the time to make calls to test my ACR program. Last job I had working with ATM machines we added modules to them so we could track them via GPS for when they get stolen, ok it looked funny but I could use them to make phone calls too. And sure you can't carry an ATM around with you but the point I was trying to make is thousands of people use barcode scanners in the mining and medical industries that also use it as a mobile as well. Is it not a mobile as well as a barcode scanner? When an ATM is stolen and it calls back to the switch as it travels on the back of some stolen truck is it not mobile when its doing this? My definition of mobile is not the same as yours and your more than welcome to shoot me down in flames I don't care but please if you are going to hold me to tight definitions for the sake of making a point then you also are expected to to do the same. Casually throwing the 'oh just jailbreak it and you can do that' is illegal but you don't see me arguing against it.

http://www.tuaw.com/2009/02/13/apple-says-jailbreaking-is-illegal/
[Touch HD General] newuser888:
Okay, let's call that thing a mobile phone for now.

But do you guys prefer even that (HTC Shift) over iPhone?
[Touch HD General] Toss3:
Comparing a one year old device to a new one isn't exactly what I'd call fair. The Iphone 3GS is much faster than the Touch HD, but apple once again left out some critical things that would make the iphone the clear choice(wvga screen, multitasking, flash support, upgradeable battery etc.).

Have you considered the OmniaPRO or Omnia II?
[Touch HD General] newuser888:
Agree with you.

I should look beyond HTC devices. Will look deeper into OmniaPro or Omnia II. Thanks for your suggestion.

In this day and age, I'm really looking for something more up to date. The basic things I want are: multitouch capacitive screens, lots of modern and well designed applications, fast and smooth OS, fast internet browsing, at least 3.5 inch screen size, must be able to multitask preferably wihtout having to hack it, fast and reliable camera and video recorder, must be able to display mails properly, and the application software must be reasonably priced. I do not want any hardware keyboard. I want a GSM (rather than CDMA) phone. It shoud use 3.5 mm headphone jack. I must be able to have minimum 32 GB storage in one way or another (my music collection is currently over 20GB, excluding my private videos). I also want it to have replaceable battery. These are not too much to ask for, I think. Oh well.., may be I am dreaming. May be I have to compromise, but hopefully as little compromise as possible.

I'm not really happy with HD, and would give it back to my brother once I find something I like. I take comfort in the fact that so many things are happening now: Palm Pre... Android... Surely we can find something that meets my requirements.

@milan_ns, sorry for hijacking your thread and going off course. Let's go back to your speed issue.
[Touch HD General] enyaj:
@newuser

What ROM are you using with your Touch HD?
[Touch HD General] newuser888:
It a stock ROM. My brother got it from Hong Kong, but it is in English. I had an HTC Advantage before this and tried all kinds of cooked ROMs before. They don't seem to have any real speed advantage although everyone claims there is. Also, they tend to be more buggy than the stock ROM. For Advantage, the stock ROM was too dated for me to stick to, but it is not the case for Touch HD, so I'm not that motivated to try out at this stage. My bother has already HSPL it though, so I could flash anything if I choose to.
[Touch HD General] newuser888:
This video is real funny. Enjoy.
[Touch HD General] arfster:
The best cooked HD roms are obviously faster, and less buggy to boot.
[Touch HD General] brusko1972:
Someday this phone will come but not today. Let me add WVGA or better screen resolution then it would be almost perfect. I think all phone should be atleast VGA since less than VGA screens are so 90's
[Touch HD General] OnlinePredator:
I honestly don't understand when people say I phone 3g is faster than htc hd? I got dutty's 6.5 R6, compared against my mates jailbroken iPhone 3g, the iPhone is slower for almost everything! When loading contacts, its slower, when loading settings i thought it had frozen but was told it always takes ages! I have no idea what these people are smoking when they say iPhone is faster, from real world tests it definitely is not for most common activities.

Although,(Even if the interface is .000003 seconds slower), I would buy an iPHone 3gs only because there are so many apps and games for it, its really impressive. I do prefer my HD screen and camera (which still sucks), but everything else I would go iPhone even if it lags slightly. Being able to play loads of games, the speakers are better, loads of apps for everything, very cool!
[Touch HD General] maati:
I honestly don't understand when people say I phone 3g is faster than htc hd?

It's not ;)
[Touch HD General] tweaker:
very true.

The touch HD even keeps up with new 3gs in terms of web browsing and program launching speeds. The illusion of a faster phone is the smoothness of the user interface. Simple as that.

But lets be fair, the new iPhone 3gs CAN multitask and it does it well thanks to a simple hack from Cydia. I have it installed and it works flawlessly so far.
[Touch HD General] enyaj:
I can suggest Dutty's latest WM6.1 and/or WM6.5 R6 release. I assure you they are fast. I don't know about other cooked ROMs as I only use Duttys but it is highly recommended! Although if patience is not one of your virtues, I guess you will get easily frustrated with the WM OS.
[Touch HD General] JanSchotsmans:
As for the looks, whoever said the iPhone wins hands down because of their looks, sorry to say, but there's plenty of devices out there that look better.

Heck, for me the HD looks better then the iPhone, and don't get me started about the sex they call a HTC Hero. If they put a snapdragon in there, that device would simply blow everything that ever was out of the freaking water.

Best of all, I'm planning to get a Hero as a secondary and I'm hoping I can get Windows Mobile on it XD.

Android looks nice at first but it isn't that great (yet?)
[Touch HD General] Rizlo:
Come on, people, you can't be serious. Try and point out the REAL advantages of an HD when compared to a 3GS: flexibility. In every other aspect the iPhone will destroy our HTC, single-handed and blindfolded. Someone said that it seems faster because of the much smoother UI, but hey, that's how you interface with your device and that MAKES the iPhone faster, period. We need to realize that we got a crippled device, which has dedicated graphics hardware that is TURNED OFF because of the lack of drivers, let's not embarass ourselves with the fanboy attitude that we accuse Apple users of having.

I will never want an iPhone until I can use it with my car's bluetooth, or copy files on it as it was an USB external drive, or look at a high resolution display on it, change its battery etc...

THESE are our only reasonable arguments! Forget the speed!

P.S. for the guy who listed his requirements for an ideal phone: the HD 2 seems to satisfy every single thing you mentioned. Maybe it's worth waiting a few weeks!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] TigerTael:
Does anyone have access to the official HTC diagnostic tools? I have recently been given a defective HTC Magic and have sent it back and am awaiting a replacement.

I'd like to have these tools just in case I discover another handset problem in the future. Does anybody have these tools? I think they would be an invaluable resource.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Gimpeh:
I have not seen these available to the general public but I too would be very interested.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] dr_dre:
there are some #* .... *# codes but i cant remember where i found them, and i didnt bookmarked it.