yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sicwan:
Before you start flaming me, let me tell you in 2 words why im asking.

Dial Up

Yes, I have dial up :( and its not even 28.8 dial up either.. so i'm asking all of you who have tried some of these roms to help me pick which one to download.

I'm not really sure what i'm looking for, I have an AT&T Fuze, i did get 1 downloaded, it seemed ok and everything but seemed alittle slower then what im used to..maybe its just me as this is the first time i've ever tried to do anything like this.

I see alot of ones that say MANILA and NO MANILA, which is better?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] B4PJS:
Da_G's ultra clean, prob one of the smallest fastest ROMs. Mine would take forever to download!

BTW, No Manila means smaller ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ciscoelnino:
i just tryin each one out, and reading up on each. are you looking for stability? or a rom that has all the extra's

i just tried out:

[ROM][WWE]21815v2 |NEW!!!|Rhodium+Titanium|Opera9.7b1|The Cadillac of ROMs.by jmckeejr,

i like it alot, but the battery life wasnt where i wanted it to be. amazing rom though, wayy better than the stock one

im trying out this week:

|RAPH|6.5|ROM|WWE| ★ EnergyROM 3.0 'Phoenix' (21812) ★ || Build date 2009/6/12 || by NRGZ28

i will keep you posted.

also why not look at this site using the PDA version on it, and read ppls feed back on each. http://xdaforums.com/archive/index.php/f-440.html

and if were you, if you have a laptop, why not just go to starbucks or whatever coffee shop that has wifi, and just download every cooked ROM and install at home
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sicwan:
Thaks for the input, both of you... I dont have a laptop..

Im looking for stablity with a mix of "extras and preformance" I've done some reading on some and i have no idea what some of the extra progams do LOL

im used to charging my phone every other day as it is...

they dont have a rom out there that installs the "basics" and has an app to where you can download//install only the extras you want do they?

ohh forgot to add, no Manila means smaller... smaller in download size.. or smaller in impact on preformance?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mindfrost82:
Smaller download size and slightly better performance since Titanium (the default WM6.5 Today Plugin) uses less resources than Manilla.

EnergyROM was good and stable for me, as well as RRE (although v6 seems to be a little slower than previous ones).

Da_G's clean ROMs are a good base, but you would have to download cab files for all the extras you want to install.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sicwan:
Thanks!

ok, so i'll start downloading Da_G's and i'll look at the EnergyROM... Is there a post w/ cabs and what they do? or is that pretty much one of those "find it when you need it" things?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] k-semler:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=525366
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sicwan:
do i need to flash back to the stock/OEM rom before i flash another one?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dialupboy:
For speed, stability and minimum size:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=526057
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] chapmeister:
heres a question: do you have the data plan on your phone?

if you do, and you have already flashed your phone with a cooked rom, why dont you just teather it. Then you would have a connection that will kill any dialup connection, and allow you to download more, faster.:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sicwan:
I do, but its only like 100mb a month. I only use it when there's bad weather/im lost.. LOL
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ~Glitch~:
RRE

I'm using an RRE 6.5 Rom. Pretty stable so far, i've been using it for about 2 months already. If you want a barebones rom, go for Da_G. if you want the simplest but has almost anything you need, go for RRE.

Goodluck!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] OK Dog:
Your phone has wifi go to a friends or somewhere and download to a memory card, if you don't have one you can get 1 or 2 gigabyte one dirt cheap. I know you can get RRE ROMs direct to phone. Be creative.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sicwan:
Thanks guys/gals for the help!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Maxxd01:
Hi,

Can anyone point me to Official OEM HTC ROM English and/or Portuguese?

It's my first post on Kaiser's thread, so forgive me if the answer to my question is on another place.

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] talonz55:
Using the Search Threads function is your friend...

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] SoberGuy:
Or people could, ya know, check out HTC's website. I mean, I know it's highly unlikely that such a small business would have a website, much less keep it up to date with official ROMs and downloads...
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] NonEZ:
Plz delete this
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] NonEZ:
I am cooking wm 6.1 rom with touchflo 3d but i need some helpers for this project.

Any volunteers.

Any dudes talk to me .

And i need a clean rom to test the touchflo
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] dioxda2:
you sound like higher rom and ram....

1. go before inteks micro V5 then

(>70MB storage & >30 MB program),

2. read intek's rom thread before so,

3. before a project was bring formed, there were always researches.... did you proceeded them?

4. WM5, WM6, WM6.1, WM6.5...

4.1 basic WM, HTChome, HTCcube, TouchFlo 2d...

5. Man, T3d, you need changes, skills and torlerances!

;) Good luck & thanks for your contributions. ^_^
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] wapvirus:
Well i am talking to you this sounds a very ambitious project not even sure if you will have any success i will post some clean ROM's when i get some time free they should be a good base to start your project (6.1 & 6.5) ;)
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] NonEZ:
Thanks ,yeah i make a lot of researchs and i have some conclusions i know is kind impossible because our old prophet have low speed processor ,low ram but via software emulation and a lot of work i think i will do it but i need a clean rom because a tested the touchflo 3d it works but is so slow that the time for renderize the touchflo 3d effects is huge the problem of this project is the dll files a cooked a rom with touchflo but i need to modificate the dlls and i need a couple of weeks or months. to do that.

And i have some skills like c++ programing,php,vb.net,and many more.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] kollector79:
How is the project going?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mobiler:
I installed PhoneEx on my Touch Pro yesterday and I would say it's much better than the poor phone app that came with my touch pro. I was wondering however if Tachy is better in certain aspects?

I have ready a few places there is such a thing called Tachy. I was unable to find a .cab to install it. Just saw it comes with cooked ROMs. How is it ? Should I bother to test it and if so where can I download it?

Thanks

mobiler
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mobiler:
No one? I thought that Tachy thing is quite popular.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Captain_Throwback:
The Tachi dialer was ported specifically for use with the Rhodium Manila port. If you're not using that, then you don't need the Tachi Dialer. The port is still in progress, and is really still in the Alpha phase (though it is mostly working at this point).

I'd say you should stick with what you have.
[General Questions and Answers] leaskovski:
Hi people,

Ok, I am using a custom cooked rom (see sig) which has a copy of voice command 1.6.21815 included with it (came with the kitchen).

Basically I am trying to get it to launch with my bluetooth headset (which it has done in the past when other roms, but just not this one). So i did all the registry tweeks, but now when i press the headset button, it starts the stream, then waits, then stops the stream, and then voice command starts.

Has anyone else seen this behaviour before?

I am scratching my brain as to how to fix this!

Cheers
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] morbidrealities:
Ok...so here's the deal...I have the hero theme on the jf 1.5 rom. Phone sometimes boots through and sometimes doesn't. When it does I cannot see anything other than the notification bar at the top and I can only open things using keyboard quick launch...I cannot get into system settings...market...etc unless it has a keyboard shortcut. I have the jf updater but it is set to search on a weekly basis...

I do not have access to a comp while at work and was wondering if someone were to shoot me a link to the linda file manager .apk if I could install it and dl jf 1.5 and rename to update and reflash if I could do it that way? If anyone has any other solutions id be happy to see them....btw....I'm pretty noob to this....tried wipe and it didn't fix
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrcrs:
i would advise you to modify your phone through a computer and NOT through your phone.

just wipe and re-flash the rom.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] morbidrealities:
Yeah...you're probably right....I mean I can use it for basic functions right now so I probably should just wait....hate having "half" of a g1 though :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ismisunderstood:
Current Setup :

HardSPL (latest, 3.56 I believe)

Radio: 1.65.29.22 (from Niki or Neon, almost positive it was Niki)

Solace v3.1

Decided I wanted to go back to newest radio, attempted to flash to it; hit a snag at about 78%. Progress didn't update for a while, then to 100%. Update app said there was a flash error, and it did not complete correctly. Device restarted, stuck at bootloader. Re-attempted the flash, same result.

Next, I tried flashing AT&T's latest ROM. Stalled at about 76%, message about having a communication error, walked through the apps troubleshooting steps; it tried (and failed) again.

Tried the latest HTC direct ROM, same result.

Tried to flash the latest HTC via MicroSD card, got 20(ish) percent through, the Radio line then went red and said "RSA Failure". Then that whole process died on me as well.

The only way I can get my device back up to run MTTY to remove the RUU flag. When issuing the "task 8" command to format, it instead reboots the phone. The phone will come up normally after that.

Since I got it back up, I have tried flashing once again, and am getting the same result. Am I just stuck here now?

It's not that I don't like this ROM, I'm just wanting to update the radio. Any ideas what else I might be able to try?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Bijdehandje:
Try using the search function next time before you create a new thread.

If you would tryed you could find this post
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ismisunderstood:
Yes, thank you...except that I started my thread saying that the proposed solution was exactly what CAUSED the problem to begin with. I tried to flash to the 1.70.x radio, which is where I got the flash write error.

Anyone else?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] SoberGuy:
Now that you can get it up normally, have you tried going to a stock HTC ROM first, then the new ROM, then the radio? Or HTC, radio, new ROM? I'd probably do it the second way. You said you tried flashing stock before getting it up again, and that you tried flashing after getting it back up, but you didn't state what you've tried flashing after getting it back up.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ismisunderstood:
Since I've gotten it back up, I've tried both OEM and radio only. Both have the same result.

Really at a loss now as to what to try next.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] SoberGuy:
Did you try the 3.29Hard2 SPL? I haven't encountered your issue and wish I could be mroe help here. My only thoughts would be to try a different SPL, or perhaps looking into the ForceUSB issue. Best of luck.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Amon_RA:
Check out this thread in case you have a perfected SPL (fastboot remote: not allow).

Proceed on your own risk, you might brick your phone!!!

The following SPLs "should" work on PVT 32A and PVT 32B boards :

How to flash :

Skip step 2 and boot into recovery mode instead of step 3, if you already have a custom recovery flashed!

Download the SPL of your choice and copy it to the root of your SD-card.

Download the appropriate recovery here

Boot in fastboot mode

fastboot boot recovery-RAv1.2.0.G.img or fastboot boot recovery-RAv1.2.0.H.img

Wait a while

Choose Apply sdcard:choose zip and select the required SPL update

Press the GREEN key once the update is done

Press HOME + BACK to reboot

Download

Engineering SPL 1.33.2010 - MD5 : 865020FBDFBD9C08950076A701A8A003

Engineering SPL 1.33.2009 - MD5 : 6FE91DDD2AC591F8EE838CEA3E5F84B0

Engineering SPL 1.33.2005 - MD5 : 2B1AAA9012DC28F88C482E1B21A46FDD

Engineering SPL 1.33.2004 - MD5 : 1B49F0A53E147171E7C51F08510CF95F

SHIPMENT SPL 1.33.0009H - MD5 : 85CCC0D8F339C04E5A18A7076F321194

Engineering SPL 1.33.2004 by Crios - MD5 : 6D20EA62BDB5A6991BD80CA327C03504

Engineering SPL 1.33.2004 by Crios is actually a hex-edit of SPL 1.33.2005 to fool updates.

Original SPL list :

Please update us on any new SPLs so we can include them in this list. :)

HBOOT-1.33.0004 (SAPP10000) : Sapphire PVT 32B SHIP S-ON G : CPLD-10 (Voldafone NL + UK + Australia)

HBOOT-1.33.0008 (SAPP10000) : Sapphire PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H : CPLD-12 (TIM (Italian))

HBOOT-1.3300.0009 (SAPP10000) : Sapphire PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H : CPLD-12 (Nordic Magic A6161)

HBOOT-1.33.0009 (SAPP10000) : Sapphire PVT 32A SHIP S-OFF H : CPLD-12 (Belgian HTC)

HBOOT-1.33.0009 (SAPP10000) : Sapphire PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H : CPLD-12 (Greek)

HBOOT-1.33.0009 (SAPP50000) : Sapphire PVT 32A SHIP S-OFF H : CPLD-11 (Rogers)

HBOOT-1.33.0009 (SAPP50000) : Sapphire PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H : CPLD-12 (Rogers)

HBOOT-1.33.0010 (SAPP10000) : Sapphire PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H : CPLD-12

HBOOT-1.33.3004 (SAPP30000) : Sapphire PVT 32B DEV S-ON G : CPLD-10 (ION)

HBOOT-1.33.3005 from the Japanese ION

SPL Info

The G or H at the end identify if it's a Google or HTC SPL

ENG : Engineering version

SHIP : Shipment version

DEV : Development version (ION)

S-off and S-on : Security on and off (writing directly to nand or not) , most probably not SPL linked, S-on prevents you to downgrade.

PVT 32A (HTC branded) : 288MB RAM / Qualcomm MSM7200a

PVT 32B (Google branded) : 192MB RAM / Qualcomm MSM7201a

CPLD XX : What does this mean?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] sleepr:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H

HBOOT-1.3300.0009 (SAPP10000)

CPLD-12

RADIO-3.22.20.17

I have a nordic magic, its HTC branded, its the same as the swedish 3 sell.

has anyone with the same spl as i have tried to flash into some other spl? i really want to use a standard vanilla google rom instead of this htc branded one!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] nk02:
however, vodafone magic original spl is 1.33.0004
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] law81:
Do you know how to backup an original SPL from Htc Magic?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] TheArtiszan:
Which came from the ion phone does anyone know.

Sapphire Pvt32 Dev s-on g

Hboot-1.33.3004 (sapp30000)

CPLD-10

Radio-2.22.19.26I

Apr 30 2009,22:15:49

Is what I have right now
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] mack:
anyone know what the CPDL-XX means? also ship s-off or s-on means?

I have:

Sapphire PVT 32a Ship s-off H

HBOOT-1.33.0009 (SAP500 00)

CPLD-11

Radio-3.22.20.17

weird how my 32A has a CPLD-11 while all others have 12. My magic is from rogers btw.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Amon_RA:
Just a guess (correct me if I'm wrong) :

- CPLD stands for "Complex programmable logic device" :

CPLD 10 : Ion + Vodafone

CPLD 11 : Vodafone?

CPLD 12 : HTC?

Does anyone know what the 10,11 and 12 mean?

- The H or G at the end identify if it's a Google or HTC SPL

- ENG means Engineering version

- SHIP means SHIPMENT version

- Not sure what S-off and S-on mean (Signature check on or off ?)

Concerning the boards :

PVT 32A : 288MB RAM / Qualcomm MSM7200a

PVT 32B : 192MB RAM / Qualcomm MSM7201a
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Draxter:
My magic was on vodafone:

CPLD-10 with PVT 32B and SPL 1.33.0004
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] sleepr:
does anyone know if this:

Engineering SPL HBOOT-1.33.2005

- Confirmed working on PVT 32B - CPLD11

- Confirmed working on PVT 32A - CPLD12

could work on my magic?? and will i be able to flash a vanilla google rom with it? :)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] bunny0007:
What about the lang code??

My vodafone always start with german lang, or is it saved different place in the phone?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Amon_RA:
You already have this SPL on your phone, I don't think there's a difference between 1.33.0009H and 1.3300.0009.

You should flash the Engineering SPL HBOOT-1.33.2005 if you want to flash different roms. If you want to run google's vanilla rom (like the ion) you should also flash the corresponding radio version... It can be risky since you don't have a backup of your radio/SPL.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] sleepr:
i copied the wrong text, i really ment this one :D

but what can go wrong if it doesnt work, and why shouldnt it work? i dont really understand what the different SPL does. and why do i need a certain SPL to flash some roms?

lots of questions, but hopefully someone can answer them all! ;P

thanks in advance!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Amon_RA:
Check out this thread for more SPL info. It's for the HTC Dream but you get a better view on what SPL's are.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] sleepr:
that did explain alot, but it raises another question.. is anyone working on a hardspl for the magic? :)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] bachviet:
My Ion has the same info.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] adityaw:
I have :

Sapphire PVT32A SHIP S-ON H

HBOOT-1.33.0010 (SAPP10000)

CPLD-12

RADIO-3.22.20.17

June 2, 2009

is it possible to downgrade the SPL? Say to the .0009?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] kirbyn:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32B ENG S-OFF H

HBOOT-1.33.2005 (SAPP10000)

CPLD-10

RADIO-2.22.19.26I

Apr 20 2009,15:30:43

Vodafone Spain HTC Magic

(Haykuro's SPL, rooted, and a lot of rom's flashed...)

Jorge/kirbyn
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] escaflo:
Just a question.. I am currently on

SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H

HBOOT-1.3300.0009 (SAPP10000)

CPLD-12

Does this mean I can flash the Engineering SPL HBOOT-1.33.2005 and I will be able to install google ion rom?

Also how safe is this? And if I want to install the google ion rom, can i use the image downloaded from HTC? including the radio and recovery image?

Thanks!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] dr_dre:
sapphire pvt 32b ship s-on g

hboot-1.33.0004 (sapp10000)

cpld-10

radio-2.22.19.26I

apr 9 2009 23:30:40

its a dutch vodafone version

tried superhero v2 conversion,

ion ,

htc uk

all work , more or less :)

got nandroid backup from device before experimenting,

but cant flash back due to verify failures.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Crios:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32B ENG S-OFF H

HBOOT-1.33.2004 (SAPP10000)

CPLD-10

RADIO-2.22.19.26I

Apr 20 2009,15:30:43

My Mod SPL for run OTA Update and nandroid backup. :-)

http://drop.io/criogenic/asset/engineering-mod-spl-hboot-1-33-2004-rar
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] porzino:
I think that I have it!!!!!! :)

Final checks....
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] paranoidpenguin:
Does anyone tested the 1.33.2010 SPL with 32B?

Does it work? Advantages or disadvantages?

I would like to flash it but I'm afraid of brick my phone:eek:
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] marc_hav:
I need to ask for help...

Hello all,

I humbly ask for help. As you can see below, I have a 32B. What I don't understand is the H... I read everywhere that an H is an indication for a 32A version. I am so confused.

I would like to flash SPL to 1.33.2010 (not sure why, just to be on the latest version I guess). Are there advantages to the 1.33.2010 version ?

Just wanted to add that I have no problems flashing 32B ROMs, currently running Cyanogen 4.1.999 without any problems.

Any advice given is appreciated.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] porzino:
Hi,

Finally I have make the update.zip with the HBOOT-1.33.0004 (SAPP10000) : Sapphire PVT 32B SHIP S-ON G : CPLD-10 SPL from Vodafone Spain and it works!!!

I have tested with the recovery-RA-dream-v1.2.2.img recovery and all it's OK.

Can I write here the link from megaupload or I have to send a PM to the post's author?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] paranoidpenguin:
@porzino:

what do you mean with "it works"?

which SPL did you flashed?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] porzino:
Hi,

I have make the update.zip with the original SPL HBOOT-1.33.0004 (SAPP10000) : Sapphire PVT 32B SHIP S-ON G : CPLD-10 (that is pendent in the first message of the post) and the installation it's OK from the recovery recovery-RA-dream-v1.2.2.img.

Can I write here the url to download?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ultraMX:
Please, feel free to post the URL. I'm waiting for it so long.... :)

I'm sure AmonRA will update his first post. If you agree... ;)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] porzino:
Hi,

This is the update.zip for the original SPL HBOOT-1.33.0004 (SAPP10000) : Sapphire PVT 32B SHIP S-ON G : CPLD-10 from Vodafone SPAIN.

I have test it with Recovery RAv1.2.2 and the installation is OK.

Enjoy it!!! ;)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MILNR0SH
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ultraMX:
thank you very much. :)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] crypticc:
Just waiting for someone to point me in directions to extract from my phone, then i can provide. (still no dropped signals :-)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] thihaz:
all spls in one file @Mediafire

Hi,

For those who cannot download from rapidshare,

here is the download link from mediafire , i have included all spls listed in the first post.:)

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?nzmzxzuzcwt

Cheers :D,

thihaz
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] paindoo:
Calling all experts in SPL flashing

I have a HTC Magic Rogers 32A PVT board. Few months back I replaced the shipped SPL with 1.33.2005 engineering spl and after that installed customsied recovery image by RAv1.2.1H, so far so good. I have been flashing various roms since then. Now, I would like to try some other roms but the developers are recommending 1.33.2009 engineering spl. Should I just get the update engineering 1.33.2009 zip file and flash it? Fundamentally can I go from one engineering spl to another engineering spl without a brick?

Any help would be appreciated.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] thihaz:
i had just flashed 2005 to 2009, no problem at all but you need to re-flash the rom.

Hi,

I had just flashed 2005 to 2009, no problem at all but you need to re-flash the rom. I just flash 2009 spl and flash eugene's roms :D

JUST FYI :D

Cheers,

thihaz
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] paindoo:
Thanks I will try
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] htcclay:
Does this go for the 32B as well?

Thanks!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] lowrez01:
HBOOT-1.33.0006 (SAPP30000) American T-mobile MyTouch
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] thihaz:
not sure about 32B

not sure about 32B because I only have 32A.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] crypticc:
How did you extract this? I have 1.33.007 SPL for the magic on 32B and no-one able to tell me how to extract so I i can provide to you all to fix the dropping signal issue.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] pengages:
HBOOT 1.33.0009 (SAPP30000) - American TMOBILE Mytouch3g purchased from a TMobile authorized dealer - branded tmobile on front and back - but running VODAFONE HTC ROM - no tmobile splash, but vodafone splash instead. Then HTC Magic.

what in gods name is this phone?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] sickhate:
by instaling and engl or a diferent spl does it turn off ota updates?