yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mmalka:
SAME HERE! This is one of the most annoying things, as I have to write down the number, switch screens, and they dial it...

Other than that, I feel your Energy ROM 2.0 series is very suitable for business. I decided to stick to it instead of going to the 6.5 based ROM because stability and bug-free are must haves when using the phone to do work, specially on the road.

And yes, of course I would like to have a battery that would last one full month with heavy usage, but lets keep it real...

Thank you for even considering the option - it shows a lot about your commitment to always give more to the community.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rvt1000:
Wm 6.1 for sure! Lots of med apps don't work with 6.5 yet.

My 2 cents edited from a prior post:

-dialer

-calendar

- IE

- calculator

- title bar icons

- black background

- Opera

- MS Office

- Adobe reader

- Dual sim support (for roaming)

- Google maps

- Bluetooth toggler (getting in/out of a car)

- Toggle for reducing Clock Speed to improve battery life (battery life important)

- camera / HTC album

- opera widgets

- HTC photos & videos tab

- world card

- g-config

- pocketRAR

- TotalCommander

- hTorch

- Long Press Endkey

And cabs for the other stuff in your roms which make them awesome!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] drake2007:
I just discovered this. If you use WM 6.5 the notification/reminder itself for the calendar entry will notice that you have a phone number and then allow you to click that phone number so you don't have to memorize it. It even has a snooze button that you can use to remind you 10 minutes later. So that fixes the problem for me. I still think it is very annoying the fact that I cannot simply open the calendar entry and click on the number. This works find in not PPC smart phones
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Neoo330:
+1 for 6.1 and stock TF3D, I'm a little tired from that unfinished TF3D and dialer problem on 6.5 :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] nsane:
I am an Xperia user.

However, I think theat the business ROM is a great idea.

Looking forward to it!

Perhaps in this rom the issue of no notification for inbox subfolders email could be addressed as well...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Wonderful idea! I personally use this phone for work (in fact, it is a company phone). I cannot really complain about 6.5's stability since I have not had crashes in any of the latest versions. Also, Titanium has gotten pretty usable as well...

Just go with the poll results, they seem to be what most people want. You could add the HTC apps as (a) separate optional cab(s) and simply make an Nrgized "vanilla" version...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] whatthefudgsicle:
Speed, speed, SPEED!!!

For a business series rom to be complete u MUST have speed that rivals that of the iPhone and doesn't lag when sliding open and switching to landscape view. Also I prefer spb mobile shell to tf3d
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Alex Law:
NRG,

The business rom idea is great! Look forward for that come out.

In my opinion, I think the latest rom is pretty good already, if the battery life can improve, it will make THE ROM for all of us to use going forward.

Thanks :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] drake2007:
Another suggestion

What about including Extendir on this ROM for faster performance? I'd vote for all EnergyROM versions
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] eckki:
Heyho,

yeah I looking forward for a very fast ROM, which is based on ne new WinMo6.5.

I dont think, that WinMo6.1 is the right choise for that ROM!

Because slow, bad Menu, ....

thx 4 reading
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] corepda:
Even I would like to see extended directory tweak in next energy ROM. It has been giving quite wonderful results in Kaiser trials by TPC. I wonder if NRZ is looking to have the same thing work here as well. Cheers.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] BlueAnt1958:
Better Late than never

I'm kinda coming into this late as the poll has been up for awhile now but I've been away on business and not able to keep updated with all happening on XDA.

Anyway my 2 cents would go with the ROMs you already produce. I have used them right from the get go as they worked, are stable & bloody fast. My usage is for business as the phone is my main business device and I have not had any complaints about the way it performs. I have had many a "anything you can do I can do better" with Iphone and other HTC device users (except Blackstone, Diamond 2 & Tpro 2 users) and my phone has always left them drooling wrecks.

Bottom line:

I love my phone and I love NRG Roms.

If you produce it they will come :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] macjaynard:
my 2c

I've been following your roms for quite some time. yours were the first I flashed and I've never used another. for my phone (which I use for work) I am quite content to use the latest/greatest. I read every post in the latest rom thread (whichever is the currently active one at that time) and I know how to fix or work around the issues that exist. however, I also install your rom on my friends/co-worker's raphaels and they are either not technical or not willing to obsessively follow your XDA threads (I consider both to be character flaws). I think of them as "business users" because I equate that with stability. bug free. they dig the bling and they love all the apps, but as soon as a lock screen geeks out or their SMS window takes a couple of seconds to close they become very frustrated and I have to figure out a way to fix it.

so, to me, business edition should be stable, fast, and have good battery life, all while being as cutting edge as the previous allows. simple, right? ;)

thanks so much NRG, I truely cannot state enough how much your work means to my friends, family, and co-workers. you make this phone worth owning.

-Jack
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sm8ckd0wn1:
when i think of a Business edition rom, all i can think about is work work work. when i'm at work, i rely heavily on my phone. i don't need the glitz and glamour. i need the basics. quick way to text. quick way to email. long battery life. gps (for off-site meetings, lunches, etc.). even a basic weather app. would be nice.

that's about all i can think of. i can't wait for it!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Black C5:
Windows Phone 6.5 and Beyond

Business devices need to be customizable for their particular business application. Windows Phone 6.5 is MUCH more user configurable and compatible with what is coming than 6.1. The problems are minor with 6.5 and the pros far outweigh the cons. Windows Phone 6.5 is not an option; it is the direction we have to go if we are to be compatible with the future. Remember, Seven is coming…
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Tsurany:
What I would like to see is a more clean rom. I like your addons but half of them are useless to me, I don't want them or don't need them. For me it's not that much of a problem, they just sit there being not used, but for business users it could be more of a problem. What I would like is the possibility to have a clean rom with Titanium and a few apps installed such as Office Mobile, Google Maps,... and have the rest optional via cabs so people can choose what to install.

Most importantly the action screen, it's quite usefull for some, but other prefere something else. Make it optional!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] KevinACrider:
I agree with Tsurany. I've been using Energy Rom since 1.0 and my only real complaint the entire time is the lack of an ability to uninstall programs that I don't use. I could free up a lot of space that way.

If I knew how to cook, I wouldn't be *****ing. But I don't.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sahiljain22:
I personally disagree. I have tried pretty much every ROM here, even cooked my own, but there are just some minor issues with 6.5 that start cropping up every 2-3 days after I start using a 6.5 ROM. Finally back to 6.1 although I still occasionally flash a new 6.5 ROM to check it out.

I think the closest to a *business* 6.5 rom, would be da_g's clean rom, with some minor addons for idle email, keys remapping, and fonts.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NRGZ28:
Alright guys. I think I got a feel of what you'd like to see in this Business version of my ROM. I think I'm going to start with a basic, light ROM and offer up some things in cab format. I will use the base from my existing 3.0 version and go from there. I think I might go with a 3 row start menu for better visibility, plus there wont be as many things on the start menu anymore so I think we can handle that.

How about the blue hightlights everywhere ? Should we start with green first and offer blue as an alternative.. or blue to begin with ? Opinions ? :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Stalix:
everyone likes blue :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Vertigo1md1032:
ONLY go Blue. It gives your rom a unique feel and it's easy to read. Also in daylight, the blue is easier to see than the green.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sharavan21:
Happy to hear that u are already on the work... :D

Are you planning to include all the stock HTC apps???? :rolleyes:

And when do you plan to release it approximately ?? Any ideas...???

And take your own time ;)

Will be waiting .... :D

Thanx NRG for your gr8 works
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Daved+:
A "Business" Edition ROM just needs to support push email without killing the battery.

:) :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NRGZ28:
Yeah well you can't have cake everyday and be slim either.. lol
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Trezona:
I agree, Blue rocks :)

Trez.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rvt1000:
BLUE....

and i vote for 4 icon start menu as it still is easier to get around with but if not, no biggie, i'll just tweak it....

Thanks for all your work!!!!!! :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dwmackay:
One more quick request. When a bug is found, it would be nice if the fix was in the form of a simple CAB. Most of our great chefs, whom I gladly mooch off of, have become accustomed to simply releasing a new ROM to fix bugs. However, as a business device, I really do not want to spend the several hours it takes to fully customize my device just to fix a simple bug. If you really want to impress the business user, offer fixes. Would you want to reload Vista or XP from scratch just because of a small bug in one of your programs? The same is true of the phone. If something has a bug, fix it. Don’t just replace it with something entirely different that will undoubtedly have a new bug of its own.

Thanks for your great work. I am looking forward to many new excellent ROMS.

Doug M.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] AdamiX:
I need something like this on HTC Touch HD

And on Raphel something like is EnergyROM :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] jsmith8858:
Yes !!!!! +1 to this, well stated and very true. Often, a bug fix is just a few registry tweaks or replacing a file with a new one.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] OracleBlue:
I agree with this one completely. I get so many invites and emails with phone numbers that I need to call that this would be a great help. I haven't checked the ROM yet but would also like the ability to embed pauses and waits into phone numbers to make conference calling easier.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mwcostello:
I agree with many of the suggestions. Here are mine:

1. A strong calendar / PIM for meeting organization.

2. Ability to dial a number from within an email or meeting notice.

3. A quick access note pad like agile notes.

4. A quick record program like recite for taking notes during meetings or in drive by conversations.

Agree with the three wide start menu, but I would move to an approach that the start menu is clearly not your main entry to programs...either the program tab in Manila, or a third part such as MS3. I am currently using default Manila with MTP to create an old style today page and MS3.

Having the stocks tab is good as it comes in handy with conversations with the boss, makes him think you give a sh*t about the company :D.

Keep up the great work!!:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mwcostello:
One more thing.... A timer program such as SPB Time or G-Watch...so you can track time during presentations.... :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] webfrm:
Basics

My opinion is 6.1 (stability and compatibility for company apps) Rhodium manila (seems At0m and some other chefs fixed bugs like the time thing) for ease of menus. Also keep the enhancements to the menus since sometimes the stylus is a pain.

I use the following apps just about daily for business (WorldCard Mobile, Internet Sharing Connection, Google Maps, and Opera) I loved your 2.0 so most of that stuff with all the newest fixes would be perfect for business. IMO

I see Michelin stars in your future for being such an awesome chef. Keep up the good work!!! :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] jbngar:
A 'business' ROM = 'professional look'

NRG - great ROMs mate. Your style is great, and Magic and Mercury 6.5 ROMs were faster and just as stable as a stock HTC 6.1.

I think that what makes a 'business ROM' is not so much what you include etc, but it's how you use it.

You ask people why they want to get an iPhone and they answer 'because I'm really starting to need to get my emails and stuff', and 'you can do appointments and stuff', and 'it's just like a computer in a phone'... yet they don't realise that we've been doing this stuff for years (at least I have since the O2 mini made PDA phones small enough to carry around).

WM has always had its strength in business use, but I don't think the 'eye candy' detracts from it at all. Your ROMs seem to avoid the garishness of some others and look very professional already. (with the possible exception of the mercury wait cursor which looks great on black but pretty dodge on white - Magic's is heaps classier)

Every businessperson wants to do different things in a different way. That's why we have WM and not iPhone. You could compile a list of apps that everyone wants cooked in, but then people will complain there's too much stuff taking up the precious memory.

So I reckon you should do three different ROMs:

* a 'stable' version, which uses the latest proven bug free system and apps

* a 'cutting edge' version, which uses the very latest releases

* a 'barebones' version, based on 'stable', with a cab pack to pick and choose.

The bottom line is that I fear you may suffer from divided attention if you are developing too many different ROMs. Did I fix that bug in business but forgot to do it in Mercury...? I say stick with the one core and just base the others on it.

For me, if you could somehow cook in a button mapper that would be the most efficient thing ever. AEBPlus is awesome because it allows you to map single, double, triple and long presses to the hardware buttons. On the Fuze I use 'FuzeKeys' to map the start key on the keyboard, and then I get the WHOLE keyboard to create hotkeys for apps. Word = Windows+w, Excel = Windows+e, favourite website 1 = Win+f, favourite website 2 = Win + t, etc etc.

Double tap messaging key = new email '1, 2, ee, mail'

Triple tap messaging key = new sms '1, 2, 3, ess, em, ess'

Stick with 6.5. The 6.5 start menu is fantastic and really eliminates the need for a 'programs' tab, because whatever app you're in you can touch 'start' and they're all there in a format just as good as 'programs'. Did anyone else discover the press and hold 'move to top' function in the start menu? I just make my list and then work up from the bottom.

TF3D2 is very slow to flip when you have lots of appointments. I'd be using it if it worked (or if I had no appointments), but as it is I'm using TF3D1. That's my only issue with the Energy ROMs.

My 2 Australian cents (approx 1.6278 US cents)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Zahurtex:
Pls think of easy transition from one rom to another rom... I mean the applications and utilities and games we install and few progs. we always use.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] BigBadger:
Stability - maybe that means 6.1 for now

Support for enterprise email platforms (Exchange, push email, etc.)

Extended Battery life

Solid GPS

Solid Wifi (tethering, router, etc.)

No games

Re-arrange folders so 'Office' stuff is in Office and Documents are easy to get to.

WorldCard

Solid web browser with some business -oriented shortcuts added already

MS Remote Desktop software

VNC

Did I mention stability?

and battery life?

EnergyROM and some other business themes

Fixes and updates via CAB when possible

Good backup program
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] blackmagicman:
new manila and world clock issue fixed...

your business edition rom eta ?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] SweenyTodd:
Hi there,

i use my Raphael every day and it helps me in my business trips quite a lot. Nice working calender and great connectivity.

Most important:

1. Battery life.

2. Good reception (i think here you should bundle/suggest a good radio for the people who want to download)

3. Connectivity - using as a modem, for sending MMS, e-mails, sms threading.

4. Scanning of Business Cards.

the raphael has most of these things ad hoc, but they are not that user-friendly.

For instance i just phoned someone and then i want to send them sth afterwards - a direct link to a popup with Bluetooth/vCard/SMS/MMS when i click on a contacts name in the call history. Now there is a menu but it is insufficient.

Overall GPS not that important. In the car most businessmen/businessladies DO have a navigation system. If one wants a special software - he/she should go for IGO or Tomtom or whatever.

i've tested many roms trying to extend the battery life and to test new functionality. there is only one ROM, that is stable enaugh, provides a great functionality and battery life:

EnergyROM 2.0 41609 No Manila | Perhaps it would be a good starting point?

IMHO: all the graphical eyecandy is for kids. Sure its nice, but if i wanted a non-functioning eyecandy i would have bought an iPhone (no offence). One can produce a stylish theme with colours and blends etc. Just dont use all the rainbow colours and we all will be happy. ;-)

keep up the good work!

Greetings from Germany
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] neonoxDE:
Good idea. But please with german hardware keyboard support.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] whatthefudgsicle:
Repetitive???

i think Da G's clean rom is about as "business" as possible: clean, fast, efficient
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rvt1000:
hey NRG.....awesome work!!! when can we expect this out to play with??
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] zjchaser:
very excited for this!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Zahurtex:
May I suggest to include two very use full and handy application Scan2PDF Mobile and WorldCard Mobile they both must haves for business.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Myrddin Wyllt:
For business, all of the comms have to be rock-solid. The phone needs to be muscle-twitch fast, at least from an idle (nobody expects it to fly when you have five different apps hitting the processor...it's not a dual-core, for crying out loud). The battery needs to last at least one day from home to office to home again, with moderate use. The screens should all be high contrast, in clear fonts, with a bare minimum of artsy flair...enough to let people know you've done something different, but not enough to distract people from doing work.

I haven't seen much difference between 6.1 and 6.5 in stability or overall functionality, aside from the presence or absence of CHome, and assuming the cook hasn't totally bodged the ROM from the start. TF3D is fine, and I like the option to switch back & forth, which clearly means I favor 6.5. Frankly, I think CHome is faster, eats less memory, and does the same thing as TF3D, with the right panels installed.

If you use 6.5, pack CHome with every damn plugin you can find. Let me decide which ones to turn off. It's much easier to turn them on and off, than it is to install them myself. It's the same concept that people seem to be taking with TF3D, which is, put in the kitchen sink, and let people decide how they want it plumbed.

Here's another thought:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Zahurtex:
Fax Software

Is there any fax software available to fax directly from the pocket pc.?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] FarBeyond:
He got that right!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Killbillprime:
any updates on this dude, i think you have a few people waiting to try this, if i can through in my 2 cents -

Would love the latest bluetooth drivers for headset etc -

also cynbron voice command latest build thats running on an xda zest ;)

I know I know I can only hope -
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Blue_Cruise:
I support the above as well...windows 6.1 with navy blue highlights...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Trig0r:
I'd go for something like this, stock apps, mst be no worse than stock for anything.

Then add-on cabs seperatly for personal config.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dwmackay:
Try eFax.com. I have been using this service for a few years and like it quite a bit. Not free, but worth it in my experieince.

You can get a dedicated fax number and your faxes will show up as email with the fax being a PDF attachment. It really makes archiving and organizing faxes easy. If you can simply check email on the phone to get your faxes. You can also send faxes via email.

Doug M.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Zahurtex:
Thanks I know of this service and once I was subscribed to it in late 2000 when it was free, now I cannot subscribe it due payment transfer problems that the reason I asked if I could simply fax to machine.

There are fax software available for ppc like KSE Software Truefax.2.1.Phone Edition but it only compatible with wm2003 there is no newer release of this software.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] k.electron:
i am no ROM expert but i use my fuze for work, so i think what a business person would want would be something like this

- a very clean and lean rom with sharp graphics and smooth operation.

- long battery life

- programs like .netcf3.5 sqlite and framework kinda apps baked in

- all other apps in easy to setup CABs preferably customized by NRG for this rom.

- an ordered list for how to setup cabs and dependencies such that if one were to install all the cabs, it would be like installing the regular flavor of the energyrom.

- a separate list of the htc cabs in the same way.

i think energy rom is one of the best available for the fuze, and is very fast and stable. i was skipping between roms earlier and now have practically settled on energy simply because its slick and works. it is a bit full of apps imo, and theoretically thats how a regular rom should be - "ready to go" in NRG words. but thats bloat for a business user, so if we can get a clean rom with just the framework apps and customizations, and then an app directory with dependencies, so we can just choose what to get that would be perfect.

in fact someone needs to write a desktop app repository, which u can just check box select all the apps, and it will prepare a cab folder based on ur selection and preps a UC xml for that, so both pros and novices can select their cabs and click "export" and bam, a cab folder and UC script is ready. such an app can take care of dependencies too.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] KowboyBebop:
This is great idea.

But many of us are ignoring a simple fact, that this wont be a bussiness ROM. This is gonan be a bussiness energyROM. So we need to combine bussines requirments with energyROM basics.

Stable

Fast! as fast as possible (but stability must not be damaged)

New (So WM 6.5 but if stability couldnt be guaranted, then WM 6.1) with new programs (up to date, but without stability issues)

Eye candy. Some clean a nice graphic (i like ne energyROM graphic, its suited for bussiness to)

Clean (only main programs)

Battery life

GPS

Thats it for me. I love energyROM, how nice, fast and new it is. But it feels really akward when it just freezes on me when I want to do something really important.

GJ with this project! Thanks for all your work!