yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ghorricks:
Well OEM with Manila is not available AFAIK.

The most OEM like ROM with Manila is Miri v23 (REV2) - Which has Manila 2.5 but please note that all chefs are saying that Manila 2.5 is quite buggy and there are a few known issues that are quite annoying.

I have also tried Dutty's ROM's recently and they are GREAT - BUT come with lots of extras - therefore recommend Miri's ROM for that OEMness. - Sorry Spartan. :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sternas:
+1

I think Miri's WM6.5 manila 2.5 (REV2) is the prototype for others

Sorry, from me too Spartan.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
No need to apologize sternas & ghorricks. I only suggested Throys R7 as he was already using Throys R6.

R7 is Throys first manila 2.5 rom whereas Miri has had a couple now, so obviously Miri has possibly a better rom for OEMness, also as you correctly pointed out, Throy's comes with a few extras
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gohyc:
I was on Miri's WM6.5 manila 2.5 (REV2), and went on to try Dutty's WM6.5 R7. Had to revert back to Miri's WM6.5 manila 2.5 (REV2) because Dutty's R7 Manila crashes very often when messaging (sms).

Vito SMS Chat works in Miri's Rev2, but in Dutty R7, Vito was only able to receive SMS but cannot send, a no-go for me.

Overall, many of the bugs found in Miri's Rev2 has been fixed in Dutty R7, however Manila in R7 crashes a lot more especially when messaging (had to soft reset several times over couple of hours of use), and for me, messaging is vital, therefore in terms of daily usage, Miri one works better for me.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] barbapappa_86:
Check this out:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4165968&postcount=1747
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Yes barbapappa_86 just beat me to it and is correct. Solution for sms bug on Throys R7 has been resolved
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gohyc:
I am able to send SMS via Manila in Dutty's R7 Manila 2.5, but I am unable to send SMS with 3rd party app such as Vito SMS Chat. For Miri's Rev2, Manila will invoke winmo SMS as the Manila one isn't working (black screen), and there is no problem using 3rd party SMS app to send SMS.

The point I was trying to get across is that messaging in Dutty's R7 is so unstable (it crashes Manila rather often) even though SMS can be sent from within the Manila SMS app.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] asci:
In miri rev2 sms send/receive works w/o poblem here, but black screen issue by selecting message in manila tab.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gohyc:
Yes, that's what I meant when I said Manila will use the winmo app for SMS as the Manila one isn't working.

I flashed back to Miri Rev 2 because of the following problem I have with Dutty R7:

1. Messaging crashes Manila pretty often (sometimes had to softreset)

2. Problem with sending SMS using 3rd party SMS app such as Vito SMS Chat, only able to receive.

3. Showcase task manager does not work

4. ManilaTodayPage does not work

All the 4 items above works well in Miri Rev 2.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] blastman:
In case anyone is intrested I managed to change the background for all the tabs by using HDwall and renaming the files it created before creating the installation cab.

The new manila files are called, 4bfcbbee_manila (for top image) and 54612042_manila for the bottom image.

Thought I'd share :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Ultimaex:
Thanks blastman :)

Has anyone tried to get work Manila 2.5 on WiMo 6.1?

I prefer 6.1 ROMs because they are faster and less battery consuming in daily use.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Manila 2.5 at present is just good eye candy and still has a number of issues for real everyday use IMHO, so putting it on wm6.1 would make no difference
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Ultimaex:
i dont speak about the issues in manila 2.5. I just want to know if its possible to run in on wimo 6.1. :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Possible, yes.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] masrterk:
manila 2.5 is much better some bugs but works fine :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] smeddy:
I tried Dutty's last night and loved it - loved the Calendar, mostly loved the new homepage (icons possible a bit big = some icons look low res), loved the camera (uploading built-in etc), but it still crashed a little too often, particularly when switching tabs, and I don't like 6.5 too much (the hexagonal layout), so I've gone back to stsble build for now (trying out Laurentius for the first time, v impressed so far).

Can't wait for the flaws to be ironed out of 2.5.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] blastman:
I had silimer issues with 2.5 on Miris rom, but I've instaled speedbooster (I normally give these things a wide berth as i donlt think they work) and it has really made a difference.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] asci:
What speedbooster have to do with instability of a young manila 2.5???
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] blastman:
I gave manila.exe a load more CPU cyles and it seems to be more responsive and doesn't crash any more.

Simples :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gohyc:
I am on Miri's Manila 2.5 Rev 2, but I hardly have any crash. The only sure crash is when I try to add a City to the World Time (works ok if Cities are added via registry). I have disabled the following tabs if that matters:

1. Stocks

2. Footprint

Am using the new calendar functions on a daily basis and loving every moment of it. :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] salemh:
Which HTC models can run Manilla 2.5? I have Polaris (Touch Cruise) will it run Manilla? Thnx

I searched but could not find an aswer before posting this so sorry if I missed it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] blastman:
Couldn't agree more.

The email issue is the biggest one for me as well. We have just recently moved to a zimbra server (offers smilier features as exchange but in open source) and i too feel that the manila flashily flip up and down is just not man enough for a working environment.

We/I need to be able to see more of the message before I open it. Other wise if it's not something i can deal with from my phone i then have to open the in-box and mark the message as unread so that i don't miss it when i get back to the office.

Good points well made.

:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fredphoesh:
hi

actually spb ms3 is much nicer because you can have as many favourite contacts as you want and you can choose to mix up between three sizes, so more important people bigger etc... Also spb ms can get your friend's contact photo from their facebook account, a pretty nice feature!

mark
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] blastman:
manila can also do that. ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] voguefan:
TF 2.5

Will this work on a Vogue I am currently running WM 6.5
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] boy_de_ghet:
OEM Manila v2.5

http://rapidshare.com/files/261645362/Manila_v2.5.rar
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bubini68:
OEM Manila v2.5

How will this work ?

I downloaded the version but theres no .cab or .exe file.

Please tell a noob.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ekksman:
its an oem a package for cooks to cook into a rom
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bubini68:
thx, i thought it would work for me.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] iRiKi:
more goo'ole micro$oft fud: "yeah we have news that maybe capacitive screens bla bla"

the fruity phone will win this race by a long shot. all they need now is a well established software base.. sold and controled in a centralized manner, which actually provides a good rewarding system for programmers and coders. is this the first time communism really works since carl marx? :rolleyes: :D
[General Topics] orb3000:
Supposed to be relased by August 2009 this device is said to be the HTC Firestone, sporting an 8 megapixel camera. With a 3.6 inch WVGA screen, 3.5 mm headphone jack, be powered by a Qualcomm 8250 600 Mhz processor and comes with the new Windows Mobile 6.5.

Full specs:

http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2009/06/23/rumor-htc-firestone-pics-specs.html#more-4956

If already posted please delete
[General Topics] jaboswell:
Very nice phone...WinMo is starting to look better..but still not a fan of the Honeycomb effect...it messes with my vision...

Kind of looks like the HTC Hero w/o the Chin and of course with WinMo instead of AndroidOS
[General Topics] galaxys:
Looks good Bro...like the bigger CPU! :)
[General Topics] irus:
love that this is just another phone from htc with no 850/1900 (AT&T) umts
[General Topics] t-readyroc:
The current run of the rumor mill is that the Leo is what was originally believed to be the Firestone. I'd love some 1GHz Snapdragon + capacitive touch screen goodness.
[General Topics] CAH000:
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5972
[General Topics] crazy talk:
coming to a US carrier in Q4 of 2010!
[General Topics] firehound497:
Q4 in 2010, hopefully you meant 2009. I've been waiting patiently in Canada for the TP2 but this one has me thinking I might wait but not until Q4 2010.
[General Topics] crazy talk:
it was a joke about how incredibly slow US carriers are to pick up new phones.
[General Topics] TechnoHippie:
and for us USA customers I'm sure we'll get screwed out of the front facing camera - and then of course some of the carriers will disable all the good things, like FM radio if it has one or maybe the GPS...
[General Topics] 4Site:
great HTC back to their tricks of putting out models with only like a 1Mhz improvements over their predecessors'

How many times are they going to release the same phone lol
[General Topics] style1:
as many times as it takes for us to demand better. This web site seems to be the only reason to buy an HTC phone lately huh.
[General Topics] orb3000:
+1 for that!!!:D
[General Topics] theomni:
I've been hearing many variations in this.

Some sites say its a 600 mhz, and others say its a 1ghz cpu.

anyone have any ideas? also, there's a disgreement in the camera: some say its 5 mp, others say it is 8mp. Not too worried about the camera, but the CPU is what I'm wondering about.

If it's only 600 mhz, I'm probably not gonna buy this. I mean, from 528 to 600, that's barely a jump or improvement!
[General Topics] galaxys:
^your right, that small a cpu jump is not worth it. But, I have not seen the final specs yet...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Sin_Daemon:
Hi, i use sometimes my Wizard to play games, and suddenly when i press Message button + center button ScreenAlignment appears.

How can i disable it or at least to change the shortcut buttons ???

Thanx in Advance
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] valentinovamsi:
try remapping the message button function and see if it has any effect...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Inc:
Title says it all ;-)

Thanks,

Inc
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cmonex:
you'll need to wait for HSPL.
[HTC Excalibur] phatmanxxl:
My BT GPS thing uses com6, Active sync only allows com3,6,9, etc. The phone wont allow me to put two devices on com6 and gives me the choice to use ONLY com7 but active sync does not have that option (com7). I dont want to really have to switch com links all the time between my loptop and my BT GPS. Any work arounds?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Skwie:
Anyway?

if better , perm disable of GPRS will be good .
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Mr Anderson:
Try NoData to disble GPRS. Personally I'm not having much luck with it as my TD2 keep closing it down in background.

Alternative is to deliberately set an incorrect APN so it cannot connect even when it tries.

I don't know of any method of setting a default connection type.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] sualc:
NoData.cab works fine in my device, but HD Tweak can do the same job, so I removed it.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] XClemX:
Would like to do the same too, and then have my weather and emails be updated via my home network thru wireless only...

any one able to do this?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] sualc:
:)Of course you can! Using 3g or any other paying data connection when WiFi is available is simply foolish:D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] XClemX:
Done spose you would like to tell me how please...i am not that clued in with the HTC device just yet...and have used alot of my data already...which i have to pay for...

Thanks..:)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] sualc:
With pleasure:

Some people say they can deactivate gprs,3g etc within windows..but as I emptied my sim credit within a minute when I first started my Topaz, I decided not to worry anymore by installing Modaco's NoData.cab (it's free,google for it) and disabling all costly data connections from my operator. After a few days I realized that nodata.cab was no longer needed because I had also HD Tweak, who can do the same.If you use it go to point 6. and disable the 3 last settings. So it's up to you:NoData.cab or Hd Tweak...and I'm sure even others utilities work aswell.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] pauln:
Or you simply delete the settings for 3g conections :) and the software will decide to use WIFI it's avaible instead 3G (because it will not work without settings.)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] sualc:
How do you do that? In this case you would have to do the network autoconfig again if you need 3g etc..anyway this discussion is funny because it is rare to find a thread with multiple solutions recently....I was getting bored of unsolved problems :D. Cheers !
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] pauln:
If you activate wifi the wm will use this

instead 3g. right know i post from td2

and i use wifi and the gsm it is still active bu not in use
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] sualc:
Ok, and what steps did you take to achieve this?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] pauln:
i try it right know to be sure.

I have SPB monitor instaleted to verify the traffic.

If 3G it's active and you enable WIFI the application it will use 3G.

If the 3G it's close and open WIFI the application it will use WIFI and don't open 3G.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] sualc:
So it's not about "deleting" anything, you're just using another application (costs USD$19.95:eek:). May be a solution:rolleyes:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] pauln:
You understand me wrong.

First solution about deleting the connection was the simplest one if you want to use only WIFI.

Second : "I have SPB monitor instaleted to verify the traffic."

I use this app ONLY to verify and to be sure were the app goes to made traffic not for directing the app.

SPB Monitor tell you if you have one or more connections how much traffic you made...

and I see what I tell you if I have 3G closed and WIFI activated the traffic was made on WIFI and 3G remain closed.

But if you have 3G connected and start after that WIFI the 3G will made the traffic.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] sualc:
OK I understand, may I ask you again what are the steps for your first solution?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] pauln:
1. if you don't want to warry about 3G connection and you don't want to use it.

-"Connection setup/menu" disable auto configuration

-"Connections/manage existing connections" and delete all the connections

- enable WIFI and all the programs will use WIFI(will be the single way)

2. If you want to use 3G and WIFI

-when you use WIFI be sure/verify the 3G connection it's closed(click on the status bar-signal strenght icon and if it's active disable it)

-afterthat enable WIFI

Otherwise if 3G it's active will be the first option for applications to acces the internet.

Try to enable Autodisconect (ADV CONFIG or HDtweak) of data connection after you use it to disconnect automatically for you.

I hope I help you.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] sualc:
Solution 1 doesn't work here,wasted a couple of euros :(..back to my good ooold system.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Skwie:
i still can't disable it, i just bomb $400 for activating gprs ..

new to WM phone , so ... kinda slow .
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] XClemX:
If you only want to use wireless all the time, try the following:

Go to Start | Settings | Connections

Click on Connections icon

Click on Advanced tab

Click on Select Networks button

Programs that automatically connect to Internet should use

My Work Network

Programs that automatically connect to a private network should use

My Work Network

Cheers to SEX1 on whirlpool...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] toth42:
Hi, will this solution also fix my issue? My issue being:

-No dataplan, but do not want do disable/delete 3g/gsm, because I still want to use it sporadically on the road, and recieve MMS. But only when I choose to manually.

-At the same time, I want the automatic updates of weather, push-email, stock and such, but ONLY when I'm in a known WLAN.

In simple terms, I want to deny the 3g/E/H from automatically connecting, without deleting them. At the same time, wifi should be allowed to automatically connect, and update selected services.

Is this possible?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] sualc:
try Modaco Nodata.cab, with a single click you can activate/deactivate data connection, e.g when moving away from home. Anyway without a data plan even a short time use of data connection is going to cost you a lot..what drains money is repeated connections/disconnections. Take a look also at HD Tweak, it has some cool options, one of them being the possibility to activate data connection only for MMS..
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] toth42:
Thanks mate!

Hm, HD Tweak sounds like my thing, provided it's quick'n'easy to toggle on/off, when I once in a while need the 3g to check something online while on the road?

Edit: BTW, HD Tweak or NoData will still be a workaround, instead of somehow denying the connecting apps themselves that they should use wifi only?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] sualc:
I agree HD Tweak is not so handy, especially if you have to use it many times a day..that's why I suggested NoData.cab...but with Nodata it's ALL OR NOTHING :). As you said the best solution would be that apps let you decide how they connect, e.g. like Fring does..Anyone know a "magic" app that can make a connection profile assigning the desired connection type to each app that needs it? Maybe I'm just dreaming..
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] toth42:
As I'm totally green on programming, I'll just ask;

Would such a little program be very hard to develop, for the pro's in here?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] sualc:
I found, but not tested, this http://www.ageye.de/index.php?s=gprofile/about, looks it has some potential...Maybe it has some features that may interest.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Geeman01:
when i have wifi switched on, it automatically chooses to connect through this instead of 3g, doesnt everyones do this?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] chris5s:
Yes, when wifi is switched on, this is what happens, i.e. data connections go thru wifi by default. But I think this thread is exploring the possibility of wifi being the only, or at least the default option, for data connections when there is no active data connection.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] toth42:
Right you are chris! The goal for me is simply to deny any other connections then wifi to sync, without turning off sync, and without disabling data-connections completely, so they still are available when needed.

In less words: Deny data-connections from automatic connections, without disabling.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] marjanot:
If you don't want installing separate programs for disabling data traffic, you can do this:

go to settings -> connections -> connections "icon" -> advance "tab" -> select networks -> change both of options to (my work network)

That way you ain't gonna loose money or something, just set Wi-Fi ON when needed and use it.

You can always return to previous settings if you want to use operators connection.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] pawelf1:
Please check this images and video from new Manilla for HTC Firestone

http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5321
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] mattijn1980:
Wow this is super!

Want it! On my diamond 1
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] xclaw:
I second this, want!

:P
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] skilty:
third that! :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Sleehond:
I will fourth that :D :p

But it looks pretty slow on that touch HD, so i think at the diamond it will be even worse?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] mccune:
Very useful! :P

Read that it's far from stable atm. I think that WVGA devices are the first to show Manila V2.5 before you'll see it on VGA devices like the Diamond.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] eXPerience1983:
I want it too!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] CraZyLiLbOy:
Time to resize some of that :rolleyes:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Escorpione:
I hope HTC remembers us with vga displays. :confused:

I definitly like the looks of it.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ady_uaic:
wow! it's so nice. does exist somewhere? :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] TeDeV:
this is ugly as hell. they placed 300 things in the manilla, and now it is getting complicating.

buttons and options all over the place!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] moeper:
I thought they stoped tf3d programming cause of sense....next generation of wm phones should use htc sense and not longer tf3d
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] natalie1981:
I could hardly see WinMo which I don't know if it's a good thing or bad thing. Anyways, seeing this made me want to buy the diamond2 more.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ady_uaic:
any news about 2.5?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Reb0rn:
Hi ppl, i have this horrible problem all of the sudden.

I cant seem to get my phone to work sience 3 days ago, i think it has to do with a "Over Flashing Syndrome". I think ive flashed it too many times sience i got it last year. Ive had some really random problems, like some programs not wanting to install at all and programs looking distorted, now lastly hard-reseting it self everytime i Soft Reset and finally now it doesnt even boot even if i hard-reset, it stucks on the "Touch Diamond" start screen, where the radio and ROM version shows... O_o ...

Ive heard something about flashing it to stock to get rid of these kind of problems, can somebody point me to any specific direction that can show me how to fix this? Would be great.

Thanks in advance.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] doloop:
mtty in usb mode, task 29.

Search thread about "strange problem [solved]".
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Reb0rn:
OMG... i cant get this mtty thing to work for me... maybe its Win 7 fault or something...

Gonna try it on the virtual XP ... this is frustrating as hell...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] benko286:
yeah i also had problems with mitty, try with xp it should work ;)