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[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] player911:
Following the Android thread on the guys website (htc-android.com i think)... it seems to be a pretty common problem; or at least with the latest build.

There are other older roms dated back from Feb. that may work. I don't know if its WM6.5, the Fuze (RAPH110, RAPH500), or a funky rom.

It is noted but he needs more feedback from users to figure out the problem.

I'm running a Fuze and WM6.5, and it didn't work for me either. Same problems too. You see the bootup screen, then the Android Robot, then the Android loading screen where it stays. It appears to be in some sort of a loop because it seems try to load something then starts the loading screen again.

The little blue/green/red square at the top is a keyboard that you can open by double tapping it. You can observe that it never locks up by playing with the keyboard. The touchpad also stays responsive the entire time. I let mine "load" for about an hour today while at work... and no go. After that long you start to see a "repeating" sort of pattern which is why I think it is stuck in some sort of loop or fails to load a driver and retries.

But anyway, there isn't any harm to load the files to your SD card and try to boot it. The process is very simple. Copy the "tmp" folder to the root of the SD card ("\SD card\tmp") and load the exe from the boot folder. Loading Android seems to "most successful" on a clean reboot, as it has gotten stuck a few times in the boot screen.

Even doing a hardreset has been posted as NOT a solution. So don't go screwing up your Windows Mobile OS to try this.

Perhaps we can hear some success/fail stories that include phone model and WM OS version.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] l3it3r:
Pretty Sure it has something to do with the radio version too.

I'm using the following Android build on my Raph100, under NATF 4.7s winmo 6.1

http://connect-utb.com/index.php?op...id=68&id=16:android-for-htc-touch-pro-raph100

R 1.02.25.32
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] TechnoHippie:
Well - I find this all very interesting - although until some of the features work (like the phone for example..ha) I won't bother trying it myself.

I suppose the one cool thing would be if you wanted to run a Android app because there was no windows mobile version of it...with this you would have a way to do so - but again I need the phone part to work first...

And I also see people tryin to get windows98 running too - ha....we could have handy little rockin devices if all this get's workin!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] wozphil:
I installed Android on my touch pro but as soon as it has booted, it asks for a PIN code. I tried my SIM PIN code but it says "incorrect pin".

Can anyone help me? Which pin code is it talking about?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NetRipper:
Do NOT enter your pin code too often wrongly - you will lock your SIM card and you'll need to unlock it with your PUK code. The PIN stuff is not working either. You'll need to remove the PIN code from your SIM card in windows mobile.

Many of the questions are already answered. Check the WIKI and especially the FAQ.

Also check the answer on this FAQ item: "I have a DIAM800 or RAPH800 and linux hangs after rtc clock error and/or power STUB messages", if you have problems booting (i.e. when it hangs).

And yes, radio version can have an impact.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] needmoney:
Camera seems to work, because if i want to turn it on, it shows that i need the SD card.

Otherwise, the Gallery app works and i can browse pictures on my card.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NetRipper:
Don't worry - the camera doesn't work.

If you create a directory in the root called "sdcard" (mkdir /sdcard) it'll think an sd card is in there and you can browse the gallery.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] KoolTurk:
That "moron" I guess would be me.. Is there anyone reading what kind of garbage people talking here? I never insulted anyone personally but I see people using all kind of language as if I pissed on someone's holy scriptures. If so, let it be like that, this is for those who lack manners and etiquettes.

I still reiterate that you real morons are wasting your precious time on something you have no control over the source code. If you are MS engineers then I rest my case. But, instead of hacking - exception of those I mentioned in my previous post and some "small chéfs" that I did not mention their names, you should focus on something that has future. I mean it.

I have this vision, and I think some people should wake up to realize Apple sold over a MILLION iPhone 3Gs just over the weekend, iPhoneOS 3.0 was downloaded 6 MILLION times, so please do give up those jealousy trips. iPhone does not have those feaures we all love about, but it's yet the fastest thing ever, WinMo is very sluggish like it's granpa old Windows. People talking about multitasking in WinMo, it really does not work the way we want it, so why do we really need it. Come on, Raphael has 512MB RAM, and iPhone 256.. and I'm sure in speed and efficiency WinMo family are just a bunch of turtles. So stop bashing on me for speaking out the truth, and try to figure out what you can do productive.

I am not trying to start a flame-war, all I am saying leave the hardcore, substantial work for seasoned "chéfs" and try to find yourselves some other productive area that you can contribute to human civilization. Some of you called me with names, I do not need to react the way and get down to your level of education, you lack manners and I guess your family never told you about how to speak publicly.

For those of you did not understand the humor in my 3rd, (some commented that I had only 3) I say, get a life. Study more English.. Humor me..
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] monx®:
Just tried to boot this robot os & its awesome. hope we can get full functional android for raphael soon :D

@KoolTurk

Hi mate, did u upgraded ur device RAM to 512MB? Any tips? :P
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] KoolTurk:
my bad, I mixed up the amount the ROM with RAM i guess.. of course 288MB.. :)) will upgrade even the CPU if a smarty gives me tips on how to do it:))))
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] adeltaY:
If the iPhone is so awesome to you then why don't you get one yourself and stop bothering us over here.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] player911:
That was a useless post. I don't understand how you could think WinMo is like "grandpa" compared to the iPhone. My wife had the iPhone and it sucks. Most of the apps are just online web pages. The interface is very simplified and lacking; completely uncustomizable. The only reason why it became so popular was because of the name. Even my wife returned her iPhone 3G to return to Windows Mobile after failing to see what the big deal is. Sure it has some neat apps, but most are just glorified flash games.

Windows Mobile is the most customizable OS to date and can be molded into anything you want it to be. I'm not saying I don't like Android, but it isn't the first Linux mobile OS. Windows, Palm, and Blackjacks have been around the block many times.

Now back on track. I posted earlier and no response. Using the latest ROM (6/21) for the TouchPro, it locks up at the "ANDROID" boot screen. I'm running WM6.5, 5.11 drivers, and Radio 1.12.25.19
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] KoolTurk:
Functionality of the iPhone does suck, but they all (companies like HTC)imitate that "touch" thing Apple came up with their iPhone.. TouchThis, TouchThat, etc.. Isn't this TRUE? But they are getting things done, Apple is here to eat up most of the WinMo market, and this is gonna happen pretty soon..

Read my post carefully. if you don't understand I have nothing to say to you. It's just a vision getting something done. But I would be really happy if someone hacks iPhone OS and gets it working on WinMo devices. I am sure this will really piss off some of you, but hey!.. Let it be like that for those who lack vision and imagination.

@ player911:

read it carefully: "WinMo is very sluggish like it's granpa old Windows."
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] :
Dude that was hilarious LOLL omfg i almost pissed my pants.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dav1boy:
haha right.... i almost did the same. i swear palm and winmo devices were the first to do the "touch this, touch that" screens... and im pretty sure htc devices are top dog in the market right now. if you look at facts and figures. apple has its following yes, but thats for a select few.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] needmoney:
I would use it, but i need the fully gsm modem working. For example i called my home number, everything was ok but i can't hear the other person and he couldn't hear me too.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] krook6023:
It appears that CoolTurk has decided to post his negative views about HTC and WinMo on the leading HTC and WinMo site and then he “says” that he is "not trying to start a flame-war"...grow up CoolTurk and take your views to some iPhone forum where they love to bash M$...

NEWSFLASH we like WinMo and HTC that is why we are here...

Your "vision" to have Android fully functional on a Touch Pro is not only shared by many but it is currently in development. If you really would like to see this “vision” becomes a reality find a way to contribute and stop polluting a forum dedicated to android development with argumentative posts that are meant to agitate the very people you are asking for help….there I feel better.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] BFieldingSW:
iphone doesnt even have a taskmanager
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] macaraballojr:
I was bugging out for a while with the same problem. after ripping all my hair out it was so simple make sure you have the tmp folder in the root of your memorycard not the root of the phone.... hope it helped
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Nate731:
The drama in this whole thread is pointless. KoolTurk does have a right to his views, yes. But to condemn the rest of this great collaborative effort in the way that he has is a bit juvenille. It smacked of a spoiled child throwing a tantrum, "It's not exactly what I want so it's garbage!" I'm not here to yell at either side, but I would like to make sure that everyone's facts are straight and to stop the disinformation...

"(companies like HTC)imitate that "touch" thing Apple came up with their iPhone.. TouchThis, TouchThat, etc.. Isn't this TRUE? "

Palm and MS and to some extent Nokia as well have been doing truly usable touch-screen devices since the mid-90's. All Apple has done, in recent history, is put a very successful new spin on it, I'll grant. But we all have to realize that we all have differing tastes and desires from our devices. Keep in mind as well that none of our comsumer-level touch-screen phones would never have come into being with out the commmercial level Windows CE and Palm devices and applications to further the technology.

Nobody can take away the success of the 3 generations of the iPhone. It's had an incredible marketing machine and it's ease of use for the average joe has made it a huge seller. However, we ALL have our own desires for what we want in a phone and for some of us, it's not the iPhone. If you decide you want one, then enjoy and have fun, but don't disrespect those that have worked so long to create their own versions of a closed source application. They've made do with what they have.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] KoolTurk:
Actually it was Apple to come up with a touch screen device long before HTC or Palm.. Does anybody remember Newton? By the way Palm is up stealing technology from Apple, they hired the guy who was involved developing the iPhone. There is no need to show stubbornness accepting that Apple is leading all that touch thing, and Nokia, SE, HTC, Palm, are imitating their vision for an easy to use touch device. Just go ahead and compare UI of all those devices. All of them are iPhone-wanna-be.

I am also laughing at those who are so ignorantly anti-democratic when someone speaks out. Dude, there was someone asking that I should be banned. I wonder if he was an advisor to Saddam or W. Bush.:))) All you have to do is to tolerate when someone speaks. This is why this is called a FORUM. If you don't want to hear what I have to say, please ignore me. I don't need to address you anyhow. I am sure there are quite a few people who are as excited as I am about getting Android running natively on HTC devices.

And also, so what there are dozens of flavors of ROMs???..Aren't they all WinMo? it's like the early days of Linux, too many different flavors.. I am not against having multiple choices but you have no control over all those flavors. First of all we all void our warranty by using any custom made rom. second of all, there are many incompetent people trying to cook but all they do is to burn their pan. Next thing they are going to fry your pan.. Believe me, I tried almost all of the roms.. Decided to stay only with NRGZ28's roms. They are the best.. I am sure that gentlemen knows what he is doing. I am not saying the work of the rest is just useless, but is it really needed?? Moreover, yes diversity is an awesome thing in a democratic society.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] BFieldingSW:
for real man, just chill out....

heres a nice iphone modding site that will probably let you bash HTC all you want....

www.modmyi.com
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Hemant:
I have it running on the latest NRG 6.5 rom and i am using 1.02.25.19 radio and i have absolutely no problem running booting and using Android.

However once i open any application how am i suppose to go back to the home screen as it doesnt allow me to do anything once in the program or i must be doing something really wrong. Sorry for being a noob but i just dont know how android works. Kudos on this devlelopment and would love to see all the bugs fixed. Cheers.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] votum:
Not to sharpshoot you, but the downloads on that page were uploaded two days ago :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] allthatinny:
omg i though u guys already knew about this, if i didnt know u guys knew about this already i would of posted the info, i too hope that it progress further
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] player911:
That could be it. I use a reg hack that converts my SD card into my "My Documents" folder (basically combines My Documents to the SD Card).

I might try separating them to see if it works, but the benefits of having them both combined isn't worth being able to run Android occasionally (since it doesn't work for daily use atm).

I DO have the tmp folder in the root of my SD card, but perhaps the windows regedit is screwing with it. I figured that it's loading up, so it must see the tmp folder... but who knows. I'll report back if that works.

[EDIT] No that didn't help same thing
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] clmbngbkng:
Ok but historically the downloads have been outdated.

And anyone here having problems getting android running you should really go to the thread that I linked, there are many people that are working on the project and tweaking things with it over there.

Posting a question here is kind of like blind leading blind.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] KoolTurk:
@ BFieldingSW: You really have a comprehension problem, I am not bashing on HTC, as a matter of fact, I do admire and value their precious work. You chill out dude..
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] BFieldingSW:
whatever u say man, i really don't care

does anyone else have an issue with android draining the hell out of ur battery.... i can launch into android, chill there for like 5 or 10 minutes, go back to winmo, and i've lost like 5 or 6 percent battery.... im sure some of my battery problems are that sometimes i use a blackberry or motorola charger at work, but does anyone else have that happen?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NetRipper:
Everyone has this. There is no powermanagement in the kernel yet, at all. There are even hacks in place that cause extra cpu cycles (and thus battery drainage) to make some hardware work.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] alexios:
I think your last sentence answers your entire message. :) Diversity and pluralism is what drives competition. Where there's no pluralism, there's no competition, no cross-insemination of ideas (this isn't just an industrial concept, it's also political, academic, and epistemological). Without competition, there's no incentive to improve anything. Say Apple became a mobile phone monopoly overnight. They wouldn't need to improve their products any more. Even unsatisfied users would have no choice but to stay with them. The computer industry alone has seen this countless times in its short lifespan.

Pluralism is about personal choice and customisation, and accepting the fact that we're not all identical, and different people have drastically different needs, covered by drastically different tools.

If someone doesn't like my choice of mobile platform (whichever it is — I've used all of them, and found all of them unsatisfying because I'm a very annoying, difficult customer :)), it's still my choice of platform to make. I expect it to be respected same as I will always respect other people's educated choices.

As for Apple always being the innovative one and others always following, I seem to remember the two Steves touring a Xerox research facility in the late Seventies and being very impressed by an unusual computer intended for just one user (‘personal’, one might say) with an innovative high resolution graphics display, ethernet, a character encoding that would later become the basis of Unicode, the first Object Oriented programming language, and a unique user interface with windows, icons, a mouse, a desktop paradigm. Apple didn't invent the GUI (they popularised it), innovative ideas float around the industry, constantly improved upon by competition. Apple's Newton was a huge flop, whereas the much smaller, simpler Palm Pilot did much better. If it wasn't for the Palm Pilot back in the Nineties, Apple would never have a market ready for touch screen devices now.

So let's stop trying to answer futile chicken-and-egg questions and concentrate on this thread about making our devices work for us the way we want them to.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] monx®:
After almost 2 days playing this with raphael, i'm start thinking to buy HTC Dream or Magic. Oh no.. I love Android toooooooooo :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] l3it3r:
Will hold for Hero. I had a Tmobile G1 and it was AWESOME, but the lack of radio support in the hardware is just unforgivable.. ONLY Tmobile radios?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] player911:
I got Android to boot on my Fuze (RAPH110)

... but not fully.

Here is the post I have over on the HTC-Android site:

Right now I am trying to find the right combination of new/old to have a functioning (at least to the point where I can play with it) Android boot.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] clmbngbkng:
Go read the thread over on the Diamond forum, there are posts on what combos work for them.

That thread is all about Android on the Raphael and Diamond.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] c_del:
After SR out of Android, my WM

START

menu background is now a teal coloured gradient. I have lost the one from the EnerygyROM. Any fix for this?

Thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] BFieldingSW:
Wierd, I have a Fuze, and it booted just fine, I'm running EnergyROM build 61209
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] majkeljj:
ok i installed and it's starts, but I cannot unlock it. It says that pin is incorrect. I understand it is SIM PIN code, because I don't have windows PIN-lock active:( please help.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] TheTwisted:
change setting in phone settings in winMobile thath no pin should be asked
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] schnitzelbrain:
same issue here, my sim does not allow to disable the pin entry. I wait every release for an android without this.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] majkeljj:
my too. I cannot disable sim protection :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] silenthatred:
So Apple sold a bunch of smartphones, yippie. They sold a million iphones. Horray. The problem with your biased post is how many NON iphones smartphones were sold at the same time? I bet it was well more than a million. Simple strenght in numbers. It's easy for something new to gain instant market share. Apple is number 2 Q1 of smartphone sales. They are doing great right? But look at the report below. Specifically, who 1, 3 and 4 are:

http://www.npd.com/press/releases/press_090504.html

Also look at the total marketshare here:

http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=985912

Apple has gained huge numbers of where they were before in the OS marketshare too, but they aren't remotely close to closing the gap on Microsoft. The iphone simply has too many other options from RIM, Palm, WinMo, etc. competing with it to dominate an already saturated market with such a late entry. The business world dictates where this will go, and I'm sorry, but the iPhone is just not ready for the business world. It probably never will be. The best hope they can have is to dominate the consumer market, but that's even a stretch at their current price points.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Forever022:
Ok, here are my 2 cents on this topic:

After downloading and trying all the packages none worked on my Fuze (raphael 110)

So anyone with an ATT FUZE (Raphael 110 ) having problems running android here is the solution:

Raphael 100 package doesnt work, neither most of the other ones

the only one that works was found at

http://connect-utb.com/index.php?op...ile&Itemid=68&id=17:android-raphdiam-20090621

its for both raphael and diamond

You have to go extract the package, and go to the folder tmp/boot

and make sure to rename the file default.txt_raphael to default.txt

since there is already another file click on yes to rewrite the file...

(since the default.txt was already there i assumed it had the right parameters, i was wrong)

I also used other packackes with the correct default.txt (right settings for the raphael 110) and they didnt work...

I hope i helped anyone out there like me that was desperate to run android...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] MRFERRARI23:
My fellow AT&T'ER THANK YOU very much for what you wrote!!! Im soo tired of these lame ass cryphone people acting like there devices are superior an better then ours...HA!! Even there new OS 3.0 is a mere catch up to what we've already had on our htc devices for yrs now!!! The cryphones boring an to simple...I LOVE my HTC Fuze... I've got WM6.5 w/TF3D 2 rom an I LOVE how I can tweak and customize my phone to my hearts content to no avail!!

Microsoft is only getting better an with WM7 in the wings....WATCH OUT!! :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] macaraballojr:
Sorry it didnt help out... that had me going bonkers for like an hour till i finally realized what i was doing wrong

I been wondering if it was possible to link the "my Documents" foler to the sd card... if you have the chance can u pm me and let me know hoe u did it or point me in the right direction thx
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ah2049:
I second this. It worked for me, though Android locked up a few minutes later while I was noodling around with SMS.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ShavedCivic187:
Looks good, hopefully it will be fully functional soon so I dont got buy another one.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] commanderkeen:
Hi,

I'm developping a program that use the GPS of the Pocket PC. I first start development on a Mio A201 and I just had to open COM port to automatically receive NMEA trames.

I am now on HTC Diamond and my code does not work anymore... I still open the COM port but nothing comes and if I try to write something on port, I have instantly a timeout Exception evenif I set up WriteTimeout to udge number...

Anyone have already uses the GPS on HTC devices and can help me?

I'm using Framework.net and C# under VS2008. Thanks by advance. :)

PS: I'm using COM4 at 4800 bauds as Tomtom which works perfectly!