[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ramontrotman:
allow me to weigh in here before this gets out of controll.

first, lets deal with the original post. The longer you hang around, the more you tend to see past these kind of things. i suppose a thread such as this is a great reminder of these things. But i offer to you a way of thinking that should ease your concerns. A mature rom such as ngr, a young series like eck or an up and coming like "who ever will toss their hat in the ring next," have one thing in common. They're all in development. And thus, they are posted under the development threads. I see no fault in the "teaser" rom as you call it, because its still being developed, so it should be treated\posted as such.

place holder roms? perhaps the term place holder isnt the best way to discribe that type of posts. A chef who has not released his rom is with in his right to grab a few posts for himself and list the post early. Why? it offers to him a dedication, now he has to provide a rom to match that nice eta he put up...so its his personal dead line. It gives a chance for people to get a feel for his cooking style via his app list. it gives him a chance to get some feedback as to what apps he might want to include or remove. It gives him a chance to get offers for the brave among us to test before release. it gives him a chance to gather up some hype about his work. So lets weigh all of what it gives him compares to your concerns. It annoys you? doesnt exactly even out does it?

about these clone roms you speak of. i urge you not to lash out at the clone roms. understand, everything every chef is doing here is a clone. it just so happens, people like da_g come along and make it that much more easy every now and then. there is alot more to cooking than a kitchen. So dont fool yourself into thinking they are all clones. Give monx or eck's rom a try, you'll notice performance thats worlds apart from da_g's rom...which is supposed to be the original. If you feel like a chef's rom tastes like "s***" as you put it, then as a memeber of this comunity, take it upon yourself to help him make it better. Offer him your feedback. let him know what one rom has that his does now. Guide him in the right direction. Dont just flash away and bash the man's work. And should you ever feel like it was a waste of time flashing that rom, and you could do better...then by all means....the tools are available to you. Do better!

So the latest and greatest returns again i see. Understand that the latest and greatest will always equal unstable roms. Thats the norm around here. thats what we've all come to accept. thats what we've all created. thats what i did, what you did and what the gizmodo posts will do in the future. Understand, the mentality of mosts chefs are "okay what ever you guys want." and you get what you want. problem is....you dont know what you want. which is why you get chefs like monx, da_g and even natf who really dont care what you want, they know what is good for you. and you know what becomes of that? a great stable rom. So lets not point fingers, you are all a part of this cummunity as much as i am...and we are all guilty of the new dialer madness every now and then.

i will allow this thread to rock for a lil while longer, just tone down your cutton candy attacks. Lets keep it grown up and keep the xda alive!