yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G1 Android Development] Coretron:
From what I read on engadget the new release is 2.73.405.5. I believe this rom is based on 2.83.x.x.

Running stock 2.1 on 64mb swap, no htc or loading screens! Great work! I never imagined a g1 could be so snappy! For those who don't know the golden rule is never have your keyboard open on the homescreen.

Anyone else having trouble using alt characters on the g1 physical keyboard? I was having the same problem on v1.8. It will work sometimes, ill keep an eye out for a trigger.
[G1 Android Development] Glen L:
oh so that's why I've been getting f/c when I open my keyboard in home :P
[G1 Android Development] dipeshb:
Some improvements

Just turned off compcache, build runs better. Linux-swap at 96mb and default of 40 for swappiness

Suggestion for JAC/CC, I have noticed a v small lag when scrolling to/from home screens with an animated element (e.g. Bookmarks widget, weather widget) I wonder if it would be possible to set a time out of say 3 seconds before the animation kicks in so that scrolling between screens is super smooth? I understand that these widgets are probably closed source so this may be difficult, but if it could be done I'm sure it would atleast give the appearence of an even smoother Rosie...

EDIT: Actually, I think there is a small time out anyway, but once the animation starts, this creates a bit of lag...
[G1 Android Development] Docavelli:
This has been a HERO bug for a while. I haven't used the hard KB for a while but I figured out on the older versions you have to hold down the alt and press the other key to make them work.
[G1 Android Development] roguestatuskat:
press menu twice to fix the alt charecters
[G1 Android Development] mhsbrian:
I've also had this same problem!

This is something that should be addressed because it causes more frustration to me than laggyness and so far 2 others !
[G1 Android Development] androidmonkey:
So is it worth using this ROM on a G1 ? Im using xROM right now, its a bit laggy. I also use Bluetooth in my car, none of the Hero ROMs support BT, correct?
[G1 Android Development] tf442:
G1 locks up

Flashed 2.0 on Thursday when it came out. It has been working very well with a just a few loading screens. Yesterday and Today with the G1 in the case on my belt, it has locked up. I have nothing but a black screen. it will not boot up or anything. I have had to pull the battery. When I insert the battery my G1 will then boot up.

Anyone else have this issue.
[G1 Android Development] ccyrowski:
You should definitely switch to 2.1 as it resolved most of these issues.
[G1 Android Development] pgiuoco:
I am having the same issue, heck I even went all the way back to rc29 and upgraded all the way up. The only common thing I've noticed even trying different SDcards, was the the roms I cannot flash all have the BFS. At this point still trying to find a solution.
[G1 Android Development] PsychoKilla666:
I had this issue as well, it seemed to be caused by FC of TouchFLO

sometimes my phone would just be frozen asleep like he mentioned and sometimes I would see a TouchFLO FC and if I waited it would lock up the phone on the home screen and if I FC it and wait to reload the home screen it would restart randomly after some time.

Tried another Hero ROM 1.4r1 instead and its smooth as silk, might give 2.1 a shot later too
[G1 Android Development] sunset73:
Hi there, I am sorry..

How do i wipe phone? is it by going through alt + w?

How do i wipe ext3? alt + f ?

how do i repair?

Sorry for the noob questions.. didnt find much information on this in the forum..

thanks
[G1 Android Development] :
correct but stereo bluetooth is working in modaco roms
[G1 Android Development] :
no sorry but someone might port it
[G1 Android Development] newjaruz:
I'm not sure why but I have been having some random voice search situation. I would be using the phone or on a call and the minute i get off my phone opens the browser and apparently is performing a search as if i triggered a voice search... not sure why this has been happening... just wanted to report the issue.. not sure if anyone has noticed or mentioned it.
[G1 Android Development] harpreet1988:
Try the 1.5.1 Modaco/JacSki rom from the "HERO2 - Freedom Of Choice" thread. That doesn't have BFS, and is amazingly fast.
[G1 Android Development] Naimand:
Wipe phone = alt+w

wipe ext 3 = go into console type:

mount /system/sd

rm -rf /system/sd/*

repair = whatever "repair ext file system" is under on cyan recovery 1.4
[G1 Android Development] Anomolystic:
flipclock doesn't flip

Not sure if anyone else is having this issue, but after searching for about 2 hours I kinda gave up.... the htc weather flipclock doesn't flip anymore in v2.1 and its something I like to show off LOL....
[G1 Android Development] dani146:
Hi, anyone have a solution for this ?

I know about the 3 audio*.csv files but my in call mic is ok. Only in voice recording and other apps is not working well...
[G1 Android Development] palosjr:
this is something HTC removed in the new dumps.
[G1 Android Development] miketaylor00:
Seriously? 2 Hours!!!! I found this in less than 2 minutes.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=4504602&highlight=flip+clock#post4504602
[G1 Android Development] :
i wonder why they did that :confused:
[G1 Android Development] ranger7424:
Additional Note:

Every time I reboot my phone it resends text messages to random people that I have already sent messages to. In one instance today, one of my recipients received 4 messages that I had sent last night again today.
[G1 Android Development] miketaylor00:
It is a huge resource hog and slows the phone down.
[G1 Android Development] ce_rob:
i've been having this problem as well, started with 1.8 for me...
[G1 Android Development] the1wingedangel:
Make sure you're not accidentally hitting the camera button w/ any part of your hand while holding the phone. This keeps happening to me too, but its just that the button seems more sensitive. Quite annoying. Sometime here I might try that app that lets you link the camera button to your choice of app and see if I can make it nothing. :D
[G1 Android Development] Anomolystic:
oooook.... thanks for the answer and backup searching :o

and about the random search thing I've been having that issue too but I think it's just the sensitivity of the camera/search button.... it's almost like if you graze it brings up the search window
[G1 Android Development] saffad:
I have noticed that if you put the phone screen timeout to 30 secs, there is a 5 second delay when waking the phone from sleep. Setting the timeout to 1 min or 15 secs doesn't give me this problem, hopefully that can be fixed because 30 secs seemed perfect.
[G1 Android Development] tee aiy emm:
That's odd.. Mine work's just fine
[G1 Android Development] joe v:
Well at least I'm not alone I thought I was going crazy.. well that was going to be my next attempt but now that I see that you already tryed I won't bother lol.. and it is only with that bsf kernal .. this will suck for us if can't find a fix, we won't be able to upgrade to the latest and the greatest lol.. well if you or someone comes up with a fix post it ..stupid g1 TMI boot loops.. ugh
[G1 Android Development] palosjr:
im running 1.8 and one little quirk that gets to me every now and then is that right before the screen is about to sleep it dims. sometimes it does this when i am using the phone and in an app. not a big deal, i touch the trackball and it works again, but anyone else got this problem and find a solution?
[G1 Android Development] newjaruz:
OK I see why that happens. Thanks for the info.. I had no idea this search feature was now tied to that camera button.
[G1 Android Development] rahduke:
Every time I use the phone I end up starting a voice search with my face for some reason.... What im saying is my cheek is starting a voice search. This never happened to me before in other hero roms, its really weird.... Anyone else having this issue or is my cheek just getting fat and fingery?
[G1 Android Development] RaQHoliday:
OK, 2.1 is FAST. Still gonna play with it a bit more, but first impression? FAST, man.
[G1 Android Development] palosjr:
ok guys new hero theme and skinned thread is up and running over in THEMES AND WALLPAPERS SECTIONS. Im off to work so if you have questions, tweet me and ill get back to you.

NEW Hero Skinning and Theming Thread
[G1 Android Development] palosjr:
sorry double post.
[G1 Android Development] Conundrum68:
Agreed!

I noticed the exact same things. I have two G1's, one with 2.1 and one with 1.7R2. 1.7R2 in a side by side comparison opens apps faster and the swipe is definitely higher-ratio and quicker.

I'm at 2.1 at the moment and am waiting to see if any other settings are available to make it snappier. Otherwise back to 1.7R2. 2.1 might have a more reliable SMS delivery, but not confirmed.

Thanks to the devs for all their work.
[G1 Android Development] SG_Shadow:
This is regarding ROM: JACxHEROSki-v2.0

I've run this for about 4hrs today and it rebooted twice, by itself. I'm not sure if this issue has been reported yet. I've tried looking through the past couple of pages and didn't see any mention of this. I'm sticking with v1.8 for now. Still waiting for blue tooth support. :rolleyes:
[G1 Android Development] vk2bea:
Yes, this does fix voice recording etc...
[G1 Android Development] yeticomes:
Thanx for comparing the both versions!

So you prefer / recommend 1.7r2? What is about "-Apps prioritized!! (thanks to MikeTaylor00) Much faster response on calls" from 1.8?

Is 1.7r2 also fast with phone calls?
[G1 Android Development] Conundrum68:
Side Button

You're probably hitting the side button by accident. I wish JAC/SKI would just disable the button in the next build!
[G1 Android Development] Conundrum68:
Well, it seems like 2.1 is at least as fast as 1.7R2 for phone calls. Possibly better in the tests I've run.

In 1.7R2 I would miss calls if I was in a heavier app like browser or Albums. So far in 2.1 it seems like incoming calls (and SMS) are more solid.
[G1 Android Development] JoeSzymkowicz:
Me too. Please remove this feature and put the camera function back.
[G1 Android Development] shaolinx:
Yes, Ive had the same problem but figured that I shouldn't put the phone flat to my face. Its not a big deal but can be annoying.

This problem only started to happen after I installed 3-4+ apps on V2.0. V2.1 seems solid so far but I have yet to cram apps into it.
[G1 Android Development] Auctionedllama:
Just to double check, I just repartitioned my card, and made the swap 32 mb. Is there any other commands or any nonsense I need to do, or can I just wipe and flash 2.1? Thanks.
[G1 Android Development] rgl12miami:
Has someone figured out how to make ringtones assigned to contacts work?

I always get the default ringtone. Maybe this is a known issue but I failed to find an answer with the infamous search button...:(
[G1 Android Development] Conundrum68:
I tried using an app "Button Shortcut" but it doesn't seem to do anything. Anyone have a side-button app that actually works? Would be nice to nerf the side button in V2.1!
[G1 Android Development] miketaylor00:
I'd say use 64MB if you are going to be running 2.1
[G1 Android Development] ulyssesclark:
can someone please tell is this worth upgrading from drizzy 1.4r1
[G1 Android Development] brian_v3ntura:
2.1 came out before 1.4r1 and they are virtually the same. i just think drizzy manages to push out more speed in his roms.

they both have the searching people bug., both dont record audio when recording video, chompsms fc on both
[G1 Android Development] ChrisChavez:
This is so true! Stay tuned to my youtube and I will be talking about the same thing!

youtube.com/emogamer
[G1 Android Development] ulyssesclark:
thanks...would u recommend linux or compcache
[G1 Android Development] domex2k:
I install 1.7r2 about 8 hours ago and its working just fine without any tweaks. Im sticking to this one for now.
[G1 Android Development] ChrisChavez:
Ya, he's just using JAC and Friends' kernel with his little optimizations... So its basically the same thing (bug wise anyway)
[G1 Android Development] Reignzone:
Build number has not been changed?

The build version can easily be set to anything you like in the build.prop file (ro.build.version).

Having said that; why is it that this is yet to change with all the progress they have made within this particular series of builds?

After all, they claim that it's based on 2.83 as opposed to the 1.79 that it displays. That's just a little misleading IMO. Then again, I'm just picky.

Otherwise, pretty solid build. Minus issues porting it to the Sapphire...for obvious reasons. This is a Dream development section. Lol.

EDIT: I mean come on now, Drizzy went ahead and paid attention to detail enough to drop his "build number" into the information to actually be displayed as legitimate. 2.86!
[G1 Android Development] keemo007:
help plz

ok im a newbie to this rooting thing and i wanted to know how to put JACxHEROSkiv2.1- JAC/CC 2.83.x (2.6.29.6-JAC-Ski HTC Kernel BFS-211) onto my phone i currently have cyanogenmod 4.0.1, dark hero on my g1 and i really need like a step by step instructions on how to switch and also how to partition my sd card for apps2sd i have a 1gig sd card plz help send instructions to keemo007@gmail.com thx
[G1 Android Development] tee aiy emm:
Half of the first post is dedicated to partitioning dude.. it even has a link to a step by step tutorial.. I don't understand the problem here.

There are also numerous step by step tutorials for flashing the latest radio and SPL which you need if you don't already have them..

Hmm let's see here .. OH there's a link to that to in the first post, titled "Want to Run Hero? READ THIS FIRST"

Read the first post again..
[G1 Android Development] gophergun:
I am so pleased with this ROM. It's the first truly usable Hero ROM I've seen, and I'm absolutely thrilled. There are a few minor issues (e.g., LEDs, keyboard behavior), but all in all it seems like the developers on this board's months of effort have finally paid off. I'd like to thank every developer on here (especially JAC) for their effort. It's really made the G1 into the amazing device it's supposed to be.

P.S. Sorry if this is spam or clutter or something, if it is then hopefully a mod can remove it. I don't want to take up unnecessary space in this already very crowded thread, I'm just so thrilled with this software.
[G1 Android Development] Coretron:
Did you send him the post in an email? I don't think he's coming back.
[G1 Android Development] Ayerwin:
nope,the fact is 2.1 is more fast than 1.4r1 via flash & test.

and 2.1 have a more function is that can search in dial pop.

and both them have bad response when sms or call coming,bader than 1.7 which havn't do speed "optimized"

maybe it caused by mike's script and BFS

if new tech bring new terrible bugs when old bugs still exist, it really needn't at all!!

sobing~
[G1 Android Development] ph15h:
Thanks for the fast new build. :D
[G1 Android Development] vr24:
2.1 and all the major changes like BFS are EXPERIMENTAL.

CC was nice enough to add that to the original post to try and help users decide which build to install.

If you want a stable (for Hero at least) build, use 1.7r2

I'm running 1.7r2 and it's fantastic. I have sound on Video Recording as well.
[G1 Android Development] williams2917:
Can anyone please explain to me how to get my wifi working on my HTC Dream after flashing a Hero build. My wifi works fine on xRom but not on the Hero. Thanks in advance :) .....by the way THANK YOU JAC FOR ALL YOUR WORK!!!!!
[G1 Android Development] domex2k:
Ill cosign to that.
[G1 Android Development] jacsonmoore3:
is there a fixs for the

Touch Input.apk....its not working when typing a text
[G1 Android Development] Glen L:
Did you wipe before flashing? try wiping then flash the rom again. see if that works
[G1 Android Development] rg8rc18:
I so agree!

I noticed rosie not really responding when they started with the BFS stuff and it was weird coz the slowness makes me go into the widgets. It seems to be more sensitive on pressing into apps but not swiping.

I thought it was just my card and BFS worked better with class 6. I guess im not the only one noticing this! THANK U!
[G1 Android Development] kingskidd268:
Just haven't follow the post in a while. My God page 1036/1037. Well I am @ 1.8 with 90 linux swap, and love it no lags. Dont have to rest to clear what ever. This is great.
[G1 Android Development] yeticomes:
hmm, ok - so you guys recommend 1.7r2?

Will try it with 32MB swap
[G1 Android Development] ChrisChavez:
Just posted a video on my youtube of the newest Drizzy (1.4r1)

COME SEE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yogjJ3RjcOQ
[G1 Android Development] ChrisChavez:
This is true! See my video of Drizzy 1.4r1!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yogjJ3RjcOQ
[G1 Android Development] ChrisChavez:
Ya... I think its cuz of the new Rosie and not BFS. Could be wrong. I talk about this in my video of the new Drizzy 1.4r1 and JAC 1.8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yogjJ3RjcOQ
[G1 Android Development] the1wingedangel:
Gettin a little click happy there and posting your video 3 times in a row! Anyway, I'm pretty darn sure the change in Rosie was for all the 2.83.xx builds - 1.7r2 and up. Meaning that it was not any changes in Rosie itself, but somewhere else in the build that is slowing it down.
[G1 Android Development] dof250:
We have seen you're video by now.. :confused: you've posted a link to it 3 times within 10 minutes... spam spam spam... stop it

Jac this hero is running pretty smooth! the home screen is very quick.. only thing that bothers me is the time it takes to start apps. On cyanogen this goes WAY faster. Why is that? i dont want to wait 10 seconds for the message app to open...

Keep up the good work!! you're making BIG progress!
[G1 Android Development] the1wingedangel:
Remember w/ 1.7r2 to edit your user.conf file to activate the swap and kill the cc, as it will give you htc screens.

dof250 - How many different hero builds have you run?
[G1 Android Development] miketaylor00:
BFS has had a huge impact. On Hero it has been a bit more complicated than it has on cupcake. It seems to smooth the ROM out overall but in certain areas there is a little more lag. But overall it has improved performance from what I have seen. There seems to be som discrepency between who is using it. Some people had tons of problems on 2.1 an dother people say its the fastest ROM they have ever tested. Obviously not everyone who is having problems is a moron, there must be something else going on here. Possibly this is because people always want to try some secret recipe they have been cooking up. It is faster in the short term, or maybe it is just the placebo effect, and then when it screws up they blame the ROM.

As I said not everyone who is having problems is doing something wrong. So there must be another variable somewhere. Let's try to figure this out instead of having dozens of pages of complaining and people saying they "fixed it" by changing the min cpu. Try to narrow down when and where you are having problems. Stick to the dedaults so there is one less variable. Changing the min cpu isn't a big deal but keep the rest the same. Use logcat and post the logs for the devs. Try uninstalling some of your 3rd party apps or at least disabling them. When it's running right, 2.1 is the smoothest hero ROM I've found. JAC and Cyrowski will make improvements and the lag some people are seeing will go away. Until then, try to help them figure it out instead making the thread grow so that you can say this is slower than that or whatever. Post a benchmark result, post your logs, give reproducible steps. Help the devs out.
[G1 Android Development] ChrisChavez:
LOL... Ya. But did you notice I ANSWERED 3 different questions too????

=p
[G1 Android Development] ChrisChavez:
You mean YOU'VE seen my video... other people haven't yet. :p

And I agree, home screen is running pretty nice now, just the apps take FOREVER to load up... I think this is because of the prioritized Rosie and phone, music etc???

If you wanna see my video of this go to...... just kidding. :D
[G1 Android Development] ChrisChavez:
Amen brother...

This is what I've been telling people all the time!!! I think a lot of stuff is placebo and people using apps and whatnot that aren't compatible (Backup for Root Users, etc.)

Everyone just needs to start fresh and DEFAULT. Be good to your ROM. =)
[G1 Android Development] miketaylor00:
My script was only in 1.8. It was not in 2.0 or 2.1.
[G1 Android Development] ChrisChavez:
Edit user.conf to what now?

And why all the editing of user.confssssss????

Do people really know how to make the ROM's run better than the developers that made them???

Weird.
[G1 Android Development] JoeSzymkowicz:
ZZZzzzz I honestly just wish the devs would put out a definitive guide on what the different settings do and what it improves. In the install guide for example, it says to use a 32MB swap partition when people are almost always using 96MB and saying it running silky smooth. Then 2.0 comes out and everyone is thrown off on how to install it and what settings to change. At least he labeled it "Experimental". I went back to 1.8 and going to sit there for a bit until all the funny little kinks lots of people are having get worked out.:D ChrisChavez, btw no one wants to see a post over Drizzy in a JAC thread.
[G1 Android Development] bigchi2000:
Everybodys cool now, so in the end that comment is dumb, and everybody is posting their sweet spot and what settings seem to work for them, experience is the best teacher
[G1 Android Development] miketaylor00:
32MB has long been the recommended swap size by most of the devs for Hero. Anything larger than that would slow down over time unless you reboot a lot. If that is they case, why use such a large file. You are rebooting anyway before the 32MB swap would really fill up anyway. People want to have a larger swap file but I'm sorry to break the news to you, it won't make your phone faster at startup. It doesn't immediately make your CPU run faster. It gives you more memory to work with when your phone is really getting worked hard. If you phone is using up most of your swap file at startup you need to look at what you have running. Bigger is not always better. The best case scenario with a large swap file is that the phone would take longer before it slowed down.

With BFS and swap free notify, the ROM is handling memory much better. It is freeing up stale data and managing memory much more efficiently. That's why new settings were needed for 2.1. It was kind of assumed that BFS would make the existing config run even better. Which it did, but it turns out that it really needed to be tuned for BFS.

You can use a 96 MB swap but from what I have seen you aren't going to see improved performance. If you think your phone runs faster with it, benchmark it after you have been using it for a couple of hours. I will be very suprised if anyone sees an improvement other than the guy who has over 300 apps installed. Or if you bump up your swapiness extremely high you will fill it up faster too. The average user will have a very hard time filling up a 64MB swap before the memory starts being freed up with 60 swapiness.

Try loading the default user.conf in and see how it runs with that. But give it more than an hour before you switch to your config. These recommended settings are not just numbers thrown out by drawing numbers out of a hat. There is a lot of thought and work put into them. If you don't want to try the default settings, don't complain when the ROM isn't working right. If you are using them and it starts to slow down, run these commands to see why.

cat /proc/swaps

rzscontrol /dev/block/ramzswap0 -s

If you see that your 64MB swap file has 1 MB free, then you probably do need to bump it up. However, if it is 32MB free, the swap size isn't the problem. If compcache is full, the memlimit might be too low. If you find something strange, let us know.
[G1 Android Development] ChrisChavez:
No, but its directly related to JAC cuz people are always saying "Should I flash this or Drizzy's new blah blah blah???"

Make sense now?
[G1 Android Development] ChrisChavez:
Thank you, sir. =)