yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] 1stage:
There Are Other Restaurants...

It's one thing to piss off the Maitre d', but when you insult the chef, you get asked to leave the restaurant.

Please, READ this thread, THEN post. There's a reason why I'm still a Junior Member, it's because I READ more than I POST.

Also, have any of you ever TRIED to build a ROM? Just for fun, download the kitchen for the Raphael (and supporting base ROMs) and TRY to make your own. It's pretty easy to open a Hot Pocket, toss it in the microwave, and eat it, and that's EXACTLY what you get from those base Kitchen ROMs.

We call it cooking because it is TRULY an art, picking each of the ingredients to make the best ROM is not easy. NRGz and others collect and try cadres of CABs and add-ons and Reg hacks and custom graphic elements to create something more like a fine panini rather than a Hot Pocket.

Also understand that we're working with ingredients that are in development as well... Windows Mobile 6.5 is still BETA software... it's like NRGz is working with some new class of fast-rising dough that has unpredictable levels of yeast and flour in it, yet it shows GREAT promise in making progressively BETTER panini faster and tastier...

Enough metaphors. You want stability in playing your emulated games on the can, buy a frikkin' DSi or PSP. If you want to help us change the way we interact with these frustrating but fascinating handheld devices, sit down, READ about what we're doing, READ it again, and READ it again, and THEN ask a question.

(That sounded a lot like BigBadger, didn't it?) :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dizzyraider:
It is small because it is 4 rows, however NRG did provide a cab that makes it three (Larger icons and larger text for the "honeycomb" start menu). It was in the thread of a previous build so I'll put it up again. That should solve your problem.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kwill:
thanks for the confirmation

thanks for that too. i really dont use it, but im helping some less technically inclined friends out. so, just wanted to be sure as the whine sooo much about pocketwit:) crap sucks if u ask me. JK:)

and thats what i figured as i know nrgz or daG wont release a rom on a build that is total crap. i just had to ask as i was shocked to hear it:D

And please everyone, STOP CRYING AND STOP USING UC:D I go old school, cab by cab ans the purpose of us flashing is to help test what works. when u see FINAL on it, then use UC or as NRGZ said, dont post until you dont use it:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] krook6023:
People-- I have seen chefs walk away from development b/c of crap like this. Seriously all I see for weeks is posts complaining about the lack of an update (the audacity of that alone I don't understand). Then NRG starts cranking out roms for us…so all should be well…right?

IMO be very careful when you critique someone’s hard work when they are giving it too you for free! If you don’t like these roms…walk away…flash another one…cook your own…but if you piss off NRG and he walks away I don’t blame him one bit….so often you sound like spoiled children.

Most of you will read this and say that this post does not apply to me because…I don’t complain…or I only give props to the chef...or whatever. Then to you I ask when is the last time you donated to NRG for his time?

NRG did this for Da_G a while back and now I offer the same challenge to everyone here… Everyone send NRG ten bucks. If 100 of us do so (and YOU KNOW there's at least 100 of us that download and use his great roms) he might feel the love he deserves.

With that said...

Confirmation number: 7B238850GT231105M….10 bucks from me...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Bvlgaro:
I absolutely agree with you!

Confirmation number: 8HP908828W8254158

NRG you are AWESOME!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] fone_fanatic:
Thats exactly what i was gonna say... when people are complaining about such little things, it goes to show how damn well your roms are!

ALso because you've spoiled us that we have to find something to complain about :p

Keep up the excellent work and i'll be glad to administer an e-slap if someone ticks you off again :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] phobos512:
I don't know what's gone on since this morning between the time I wrote my few posts and the time I am looking at the board now, but I just have to say here that I found my vindication.

I just hard-reset my phone (again) on the 23001 build, with only Titanium.

Before I installed any applications. Before I installed my flash card. Before I even installed my SIM card. Before I touched a single setting on the phone. I went into the text messaging app by pressing the the "text" option on the main Titanium home screen. I went to landscape mode by opening the keyboard. I hit the Menu button on the screen. I hilited the "New" menu option using the arrow keys on the keyboard. And it is all garbled just like I showed last night.

I appreciate your being a developer and the sacrifices and what not that you make but you guys ASK us to report bugs. All I'm trying to do is tell you that in a completely stock untouched unmodified installation on my completely unpersonalized phone, there's a problem with at least one menu. If you don't want to hear that then fine, I'll shut-up and not mention anything odd that I see. I always thought that posting about bugs was a good thing. But whatever folks...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bleeman:
Great Work....Thanks

Confirmation number: 3M797639GS706361T.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] 2udCrRAZdK:
Thanks! That did the trick! I missed that in the other build.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Da_G:
Re: the whitespace in total commander,

This is probably due to the new larger finger-friendly listbox controls introduced in the most recent builds;

WM6.5.x is moving towards being completely skinnable and finger friendly, all tiny stylus-requiring things are going to be changed soon :)

NRG rocks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] avs777:
Thanks for great work

Great work!

Confirmation number: 25996418CJ111161V
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] 2udCrRAZdK:
ditto

0BV194192L402393M
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] BigBadger:
Haha. I have the exact same problem! Yeah, I grab my glasses. Eventually, will have the icons memorized. :o
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] incisivekeith:
As NRG said, the build is fine. My doubts about this build came from reading in DA_G's kitchen thread where many chefs had problems with the first release of 23001 and DA_G said something on the lines of churning out a new fixed build with some components from past builds as the new ones were not up to expectation. There is a 50% chance (or maybe higher) that I interpreted this wrong.

@NRG: I feel a little bad as I posted about the Comm Manager not getting closed, but, as its rightly said here, this ROM is a very good one, so minor things like that get reported, not any major ones, as there are no major ones. And, I posted about the Comm Manager after testing without installing anything and hard resetting twice.

Please do not get pissed at bugs or annoyances getting reported - most of us here are highly technically inclined, or else we would not be meddling with our expensive phones. That inclination to get the best out of our phones drives us to a particular ROM - in this case, yours. And the same inclination also makes us, the users, a little worried about the smallest thing on our phones not working the way it is supposed to. The worry or annoyance about something not working is of course no reflection on your work, or for that matter, any chef's work - I am sure you know this already, but just emphasizing it. And, there are so many variables here: Microsoft, Win Mo 6.5, the kitchen, etc., so again, people (including me) who do not know if it's a Microsoft issue or 6.5 issue post some anomalies in functioning when we find one, which, in no way says, "NRG, this is not good work," but rather, it says,"I have no clue what variable caused this behavior, but as you, the chef, is the authority on all this, you may know why I experience an anomaly."

So, in fact, the reporting of stuff, actually, in my opinion, puts the chef in a higher place, not because he/she has painstakingly created the ROM, but also because of the underlined assumption that the chef has the ultimate knowledge and will be able to help. I took time to write this long response because it did not feel right when someone like you with a real life to take care of, and who has put out an amazing work (which I am sure you get the thrill out of, when users go crazy for it), felt that he should stop developing due to too many minor things being reported. I am done. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] drunkbastard:
Support for NRG

At the risk of adding one more non-technical post to the thread, and in support of our frustrated ROMgod, I have to say that even I get frustrated reading some of the "bug reports" and posts by a lot of the people here...

"when's the new release? I'm freakin' out!" - go get a life. Go walk in the park, see a movie, go to a bar and have a beer and watch a game. Unless you have NRG on payroll - and I know that a lot of the NRG ROM users don't donate so much as a dime - you have absolutely no right to beg for a new ROM. Myself, I have donated a few beers, and if I had a job right now (anyone need a bartender?), I would donate again, because of his endless work. I'm guessing that he has other things to do, like work, go have non-computer related fun himself, etc.

"too much white space on total commander" - you're an idiot. Seriously. Mentally deficient.

ANYTHING that has to do with the TF3D2 interface - it can only be posted so much in big red letters, and if there was a way for the thread to write it on a hammer and whack you in the head with it, NRG probably would have already coded it - the TF3D2 interface (a) was not designed for this screen, (2) was not ported by NRG, and (third) is not a ROM-related bug. If you honestly feel the totally anal need to worry about it, go bug xboxmod, he's the one responsible for the port heretofore. Or, you can be one of the many (like myself) and use another interface. I've weaned myself off Manila and use SPB 3.0. Although there are specific features I do miss about TF3D2...

"Can you please add XXX to the ROM? No, genius, YOU can. Download the CAB, run the CAB, install it yourself. It's not that hard, and odds are very very veryvery great that what you're asking for doesn't HAVE to be cooked in.

It's as if a lot of people here have absolutely ZERO problem-solving skills themselves. They have a UC script which loads a whole bunch of garbage, like NRG said, then have a conflict between the ROM and the useless and inane crap they loaded, and instead of doing their own checking, just post it as a bug. Some stuff may not work with WM 6.5. Some stuff may conflict with a process in the ROM. I used to use PockeTwit (use Kinoma for that now), but when it wouldn't load up with NetCF 3.7 did I post it as a bug? No, I went and did a little checking and found out that it was a conflict with NetCF 3.7. Didn't ask NRG to remove it, make me a special ROM, etc., just found an alternate method that would work with what he gave us.

And that's just it - he's GIVING it. You don't likey? Go use another ROM.

Sorry if I stepped outta line, NRG, just wanted to unload that.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] fone_fanatic:
It gets all garbled for me as well on the standard rom... just like your pics :/

Also when your in the msg and press menu and use the arrows on the keyboard the item on the top of the menu gets garbled...

doesn't bother me because i usually use my fingers and tap on the screen which works normally and doesn't garble the image.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] BigBadger:
Now that you have explained your steps a bit differently, I am able to reproduce the issue.

In case anyone else wants to try:

Set up phone to use Titanium.

Turn phone on.

Hit Home key.

Open hardware keyboard.

Use HW keyboard arrow key to highlight Text.

Hit Enter key on HW keyboard to open Text Messaging.

Tap Menu soft key on screen.

Press down arrow key to highlight New on the menu.

Note garbled menu item.

Press down arrow key to highlight the next menu item.

Note the problem goes away.

Press down arrow key to highlight another menu option that does have a sub-menu like New.

Note the problem does not exist here so it isn't a sub-menu issue.

Now THAT is a friggin' defect report. :D

From what I hear, this dithering of stuff is fairly common in WM6.5 (beta)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ndn715:
+1 to all the naggers, all of the issues being discussed are due to @#$% being installed that breaks things. this rom is one of the most stable and fast EnergyROMs and i'm pleasantly surprised that i haven't found any bugs so far. but lets not beat a dead horse :) maybe we should just start PMing people that post stupid questions rather than filling up the thread with replies.

quick question: i tried looking through some previous builds for the Fringe ringtone but it hasn't been in for a while. does anyone have a copy of it laying around so i don't have to make one? :) i've been using the Modem ringtone for a bit and the reaction from my IT coworkers is priceless...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] brain3112:
whohoooo! just about 18 hours not online and round about 20 pages of new posts in this thread. That's what I call an active community ;)

Just one short question: when has the "Standard"-Voice Command function (not MSVC) been taken out? Is there a cab-file to reinstall it?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] warri:
There was never any other voicecommand other then MSVC. I believe it comes standard with the Stock ROM, so that might have just been it in disguise
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] fatpandas:
your back button seems to work considerably different from mine then. mine just minimizes all the programs. they're still running. i like closing them.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] BigBadger:
I can't speak for NRG but what makes me want to go 'badger' on folks is:

1) sense of entitlement

"It has been X days. When do we get a new ROM?"

"I like ABC to be more like 123. When will you fix this?"

"I want the latest build before anyone else has it but I don't want any problems!"

2) lame troubleshooting

"The taskbar is broken, what should I do?" and then after several people chime in "LOL it was the FrigginAwesomeTaskBar.CAB I installed. Funny, tt worked fine in WM5"

"Can't connect to Internet."

Can't be bothered to tell you what flavor of ROM, provider or software I am using. No signature.

3) too lazy to read or search

"how do I find ...."

"here is something I noticed..." when it has been posted and responded to many times.

"what is MSVC?"

"where is "MSVC?"

The first issue is just being insensitive to the folks that bring us the goodies. The other issues are about being lazy. I find it difficult to help people who are too lazy to help themselves. Before you get all worked up and want to respond with "I search" or whatever, just stop and ask yourself if you really doing all you can and should. If the answer is "yes", I am maybe not talking about you. But, in case you need a sanity check, do a search for all of your posts and read them again. Do they make you feel good?

Yeah, my responses are often laced with acerbicism but I'm just hoping a little gentle chiding will get people to do the right thing.

Instead of saying "I found a bug." how about saying "I am using ABC and I did 123 and I noticed XYZ. Has anyone else noticed this?" and then waiting to see if someone answers - without posting "why does no one respond?" multiple times. Maybe it isn't a "bug" (a word which NO developer wants to hear) but a "conflict". Maybe it was jsut someting you did. Take a look at the extensive troubleshooting section that we have. And we can add more!

Bottom line, "help us to help you"
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] brain3112:
Sure there was a function where you could record voicetags and allocate them to apps or contacts and it wasn't a MSVC in disguise. Unfortunately, I don't remember the name of that function atm :-(

EDIT: Its name might be "Cyberon Voice Speed Dial".

EDIT2: Just found a cab-file in this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=296337&highlight=voice+dial&page=2 . Going to try it tomorrow and hope it will work.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] BigBadger:
Cyberon Voice

Cyberon Voice. EnergyROM never had it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] krook6023:
Let keep this ball rolling…show NRG the LOVE!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] BigBadger:
motivational contribution

Confirmation number: 6MN61073F7070933A

See if you can find a "Kilt Lifter".

That is a scotch ale in case you were wondering.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rblover69:
His roms are some of the best here. Sure im still wondering how to get social networking on the albulm before i can call it perfect. But still compared to whats out, this is a audi R8 comapred to the toyota corolla roms i be seeing on here. lol

BTWif anyone has info on the social networkign feature in the albuln lemme knw i have tried duttys fix no deal i have tried crackwhore fix cab it says insufficient proveldges so ...out of options right now. lol
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] C0BRA01:
I looked but all I saw was a cab file for disabling the tachi dialer. When you said;

I thought you meant a cab file for fixing the list of contacts not showing, not a cab file for disabling the Tachi dialer. My bad.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] PhilPan:
Phone Switches to Silent

Is anyone else having this problem? I am usually pretty good with checking the forums, but havent seen this anywhere. When I switch my phone to vibrate, via the side buttons on phone, and then turn the volume back up via side buttons on phone. The phone is stuck in silent mode. I have to physically go into settings, and set up a new ring tone, and set it to normal.

Is this the normal for the phone? Or is something wrong here?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] MasterMerlin:
Already did it after I read the posting from NRG for Da_G ...

NRG Confirmation Code: 3TS15207EB7915212 .. 10€ from here :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dizzyraider:
I'm not sure if social networking works with Album 3.0, the only way I know is to install Album 2.5 by Herg here. Turn off TF3D, reset, then install then you should have sufficient privilege.

On a side note, I'm having a hard time navigating Album 3.0. It is hard for me to select a picture, most of the time when I select a picture using my finger, it won't do anything unless I'm very very still using my fingernail or stylus. This is the same when I hit menu in Album, I won't be able to select any of the options unless I'm very very still. Is this a sensitivity issue that I can fix with some registry tweaking?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] cyninger:
Hi NRG,

I L O V E yer ROMS but I have one problem. When I hold my phone to my face, it gets all oily from the oil on my skin :mad::mad::mad: Do you - by chance - think you can fix this in the next release? It's really annoying and I might need to flash back to Windows Pocket PC2002 if this issue can't be fixed soon enough. Anyone else having this problem?

~~~

In all reality, great ROM again. The June 30th release is rock solid with Exchange, Chapura Pocket Mirror, the SPB catalog and WebIS products. There is absolutely no piece of software I've experienced issues running with this or any previous NRG 6.5 release. Keep up the great work - Ignore all the silly requests (and PM's that a ZIP is screwed up even tho it was still probably uploading on the FTP...*whistles*) and, for the love of everything holy, take a step back for a bit knowing you've made a damn fine and more importantly stable ROM. -Cheers!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] drtolson:
I see approximately the same thing. Just after I flash a new ROM, I need to go into Phone/Options/Ringtones to actually set the ringtone, otherwise, when there is an incoming call, I get no sound.

After I 'set' a ringtone, everything is fine. It's been this way (I believe) for the last few iterations. I just do it by habit now.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ijsklont:
OK i flashed my TP for the first time with this rom and i have to say i like it very much.

But i am having problems with the new File explorer, is it possible to get the old file explorer back? Because i cant "paste" files to the ringtone folder, with the old file explorer i could set a mp3 as i ringtone and now i have to copy/paste it

Also is it possible to get the multiple selection by dragging the styles to select multiple items in file explorer and email
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] BigBadger:
Sadly, I must confirm this issue. Where is this oil coming from? :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ijsklont:
Oeps sorry doublepost
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] BigBadger:
I can't reproduce the issue but I have 1) set a personal ringtone and 2) have set up the HTC Volume slider to show the two separate settings.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] BigBadger:
Have you tried Total Commander instead? It is already installed.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] BigBadger:
I think that was a resonable conclusion from the wording. Sadly, it is incorrect. :( I think you are then faced with installing a dialer that does have the functions that you want and works in your environment. That might be hard to find.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ijsklont:
Total commander works but still i want that "multi select" to use with my emails on the TP, now i have to remove emails one at the time.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] BigBadger:
I did a search (ahem) and found a while thread about this. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=529840

monx says:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Gestures\Touch]

"Disabled"=dword:1

In case you were wondering, my search was "multi select file explorer xda"
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] geok:
All, here are the Remove and Restore Hidden Proxy CABs. I don't remember how the links were set up in the Start Menu, but you can just install one or the other as you need.

Note, if you forget which you have installed at the moment, re-installing one or the other won't hurt anything.

The Hidden Proxy is required if you want to access AT&T Media Net. I can't tell you how that works because, to this day, I'm unable to access Media Net. I can get to the Internet fine, but I cannot access the Media Net home page regardless of the status of the hidden proxy.

-geo
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] chuggz18:
Thanks nrg!

Confirmation number: 3Y303584203132224
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ijsklont:
The problem is that the folder Gestures not there
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sapps:
Not sure if this will be helpful to those of you with ringtone issue. I, myself, havent noticed this because one of the first things I do after I flash my phone is open up MP3 Trimmer, open up the mp3 i want to use as my ringtone and then choose to Set as Default. Very Simple process for saving the ringtone in the proper folder and setting it as default at the same time.

Hope it helps you guys.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] BigBadger:
So add it? Or better yet, ask your question in that thread perhaps since they are already discussing it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] krook6023:
Just One More Time

One more bump for this...NRG deserves more love....:cool:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] shuis1337:
Donation

Confirmation number: 0AR58123E4970812F