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[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] dnt408:
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NightRaven,

I just tried your Rom but it doesn't work. It seems like you're still missing something. It stuck on the gray screen and says "Loading..." Just to confirm I didn't do anything wrong, I extracted the rom from the sprint 1.04 and it did work. Also seems like your Rom is smaller than the official Rom 73MB vs 140MB. Anyways if you have another one to try out, let me know and I'll try it out. Thanks for the hardwork!
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] Topogigi:
73 Mb is only the OS part. I don't think that such a thing will work.... WM 6.5 OS with WM 6.1 XIP? mmmmmhhh.....
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] alin2em15:
?

so im new to this post.

i have a sprint palm treo pro that i just got

i just downloaded the kitchen 6.5 from the first post on this thread.

im not sure about how to install it and before i do will it work without crashing on me?

Also is there any way anyone could help me with getting the original wm 6.1 rom and how to install it incase this one doesnt work.

Thank you

-Alin
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] darylrue:
Need nbh file?

I am attempting this upgrade.

I beleive that I have successfully flashed the hard spl by

Step 1: copying the file to flash card and running the executable here. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=84822. No errors and the number at the top of the multicolored screen went lower (I think from 37 to 34) so I know that it did something.

Step 2: Seems to be to copy the image file to the rom card and boot into it, but I cannot find any nbh file in the panther rom kitchen zipped download.

Can someone help me out here? Is that my last step, if so, this seems pretty simple but I need the file. I am not sure why the whole kitchen is posted here but to tell you the truth I do not really know what a kitchen is and I still feel pretty silly calling it a kitchen when it looks to be a flash build environment or something. :)

I would be happy to be referenced to another source to read. The other source seemed to be for those who want to develop their own roms or port roms which is probably too much for me at this point.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] darylrue:
STEP 2 seems to be actually, load rom builder utility a.k.a kitchen, load config file for latest release and press create.

builds image file a.k.a nbh.

Step 3 place nbh with correct name on flash drive and boot to flash mode by pressing left side button and top left button pressed.

step 4 get on your knees because this took a while and I thought I was bricked.

step 5 be happy you tried it cause now you have the new interface! sweet, thanks!
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] dontknow61:
Has Development died?

I like that this Rom is sprint centric, however its missing some options like turning off the Keyguard lock. Is there another Treo Pro Rom for 6.5 that has everything like this? Or are there some tweeks I dont know about. Thanks NightRaven for the awsome build.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] xmail:
eUROPE

Ciao

this rom can run on Europen h3g and GSM Treo Pro?

thanks

Giorgio :confused:
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] acidhax:
just bumping.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] kenny782:
WM 6.5.3 "X" gone

This is just a general 6.5.3 question

i just flashed a new ROM my first 6.5.3 (see link below)

And the "X" in the upper right of all my apps is gone.

http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/5435/sshot002.png

Somebody on that thread said this is normal for this version of WM.

Is that true or is it something specific to this ROM?

Thanks,

Kenny

This is the ROM:

I loaded this ROM

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=1981142&posted=1#post1981142
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] flash67:
Would it be worth it if i tried dumping the rom on my Telus treo pro?
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] Topogigi:
Why not? I've just finished to dump my italian no-brand GSM treo pro rom. Now I'll try to rebuild it from the dump and flash it....
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] NightRaven:
OK. So we know the sd card update method works at least with the sprint rom. There is a problem with my 6.5 rom, which I'm not suprised about. It's the first time I've used an Ervius kitchen. I will build another rom on Monday, after I pick up my Treo Pro. If anyone here knows how to setup the Ervius Kitchens let me know, I'd like to compare the settings.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] NightRaven:
Yes! At the very least, you will have the carrier specific OEM, and a backup if you need to flash back to the original once my customs roms are working. Once you have your dump, post it and send me a link. I'll use the OEM portion as a base for a Telus 6.5 rom.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] Topogigi:
You definately need to port the XIP from another WM6.5 rom to the treo pro before even try to cook the OS part. Let's do it gradually and we'll find a way together, uh?

I'd like to thank you anyway: you made us aware that something is moving here.... :)
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] NightRaven:
That would be awesome! That will tell us if an unsigned rom with flash using the SD card method. If that works, then I just need to get my kitchen working correctly, and we will all have a pretty 6.5 rom!
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] NightRaven:
I thought I included the new XIP in the rom. This new kitchen is very different then the others I've used. I'll have to add the XIP manually in the next rom. There is no way I would get a Treo Pro, and not pursue a custom rom. There is always a way. It took me three months to get 6.1 working on the 700wx. I was working on porting 6.5 when it died. The 700wx needed a newer display driver for 6.5 to work. I was going to write one myself if I had too.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] Topogigi:
BTW, I noticed that ExtROM in our roms is more than 100Mb... That's for sure the space where all the windows utilities are stored (activesync, the complete pdf manual, WMDC and so on). It would be useful to cook a rom without the extended rom reserving that space for additional storage. We will need to repartition the flash, and this is not so easy, but....
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] Topogigi:
Bad news: I tried to rebuild a rom starting from the dump and using the sprint 1.04 upgrade RUU_Signed.nbh as a template. No way for the moment. The rebuilt rom cannot be dumped anymore (and this is not the right behaviour). I'll wait for the moment (no time to go on, it's friday!). I'll work on it during the WE....
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] NightRaven:
I was able to dump the sprint 1.04 RUU_Signed.nbh. Thats what I used as my base in my kitchen. I was able to dump it fine. Just not 100% sure how to setup the new kitchen.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] Topogigi:
Had no problem to dump the Sprint rom too. It's the rebuilt rom that cannot be dumped anymore....
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] NightRaven:
What did you use to rebuild it?
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] Topogigi:
I rebuilt it with tadzio tools...
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] NightRaven:
I haven't heard of those. I'll post my kitchen!
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] msl7052:
PM me when you have one ready to try, im in.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] NightRaven:
I uploaded the kitchen. Again this is the first time I've used this type of kitchen. I'm pretty sure it's not setup correctly. Any suggestions and or fixes would be extremely helpfull! See first post for link.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] Topogigi:
tadzio tools are the base of every kitchen I know: imgfsfromdump.exe, imgfstonb.exe and so on...
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] NightRaven:
Ah! Yes, I've used them a bit. I mostly use the other ones. Prepare_imgfs.exe, nbsplit.exe, viewimgfs.exe, etc.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] irus:
I have already posted this question but i did not really get an answer so i will ask again. how can you load a custom rom with out hardspl .... or softspl?
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] khalaan:
Irus,

I would definitely wait a bit, I've heard from a trusted source that hardspl may very well be on its way in the near future. I am thinking that it would be worth the wait in this case. :)
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] irus:
thanks for the response, also i dumped the just released 1.04 sprint rom and i can't find a tool to edit the extended rom.nb file i was using TFAT Image Editor do you know where i might find a tool. thanks
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] Topogigi:
in the simplest way: you have to rebuild a rom signed as an official update...every device has a way to be updated. Hardspl allows unsigned roms to be loaded on devices and also prevents from bricking the devices (bad blocks writings or bad spl updates). Read the first Olipro's thread announcing hardspl and you'll understand.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] info[]box1:
NightRaven I wish you all the success on Monday night...When you succeed we all succeed...Godspeed
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] vladimir2989:
I did a dump of GSM Unlocked Treo Pro, or at least Part02.raw

basically NightRaven could you read through first 3 posts in the link blow and tell me is it ok, and what else u need to make GSM version of 6.5

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=3943760#post3943760
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] bluegatar:
Treo Pro Kitchen rar is broken!!! please upload it again!thx
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] lifehappy:
bluegater? 靠 星星 你也在啊
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] bb147:
I have Bell Treo Pro.

Do you need an OEM dump of that? Finally some custom ROM's for the Treo Pro!
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] xdw5251:
关心Treo PRO的中国同胞还不少啊！哈哈！
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] bluegatar:
鸟人，叫你帮忙备份你丫的乱跑，太让我失望了
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] schwecheimer:
Excited!

NightRaven, I hope it works out for you. I will be getting a Treo Pro (Sprint Version) soon. I am selling my HTC Touch Pro to get it. I really like WinMo 6.5. I'm currently using it on my Touch Pro. I will follow this thread to see how things go! Thanks everyone for supporting this device! We need to build a better community for it!
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] khalaan:
Heh.. NightRaven.. Post failure.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] chris5h:
So as it stands does the kitchen and roms it makes work, or are we wating for nightraven to upload a new version?
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] lodown3:
I think, at this point in time, its safe to say it is not fully functional (doesnt work)
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] acidhax:
Please post on how this would react with a CDMA Bell Treo Pro. Thank you.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] dontknow61:
Any Word on this?

I was planning to upgrade my Treo 800w to a Treo Pro? Do I have a better chance of getting WM 6.5 on my 800w or on a new Treo Pro ? Thanks in advance.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] NightRaven:
I ended up getting a Touch Pro, so I have no way of testing these roms...
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] gksmithlcw:
Wha?? *sighs*
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] acidhax:
Epic waste of time
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] khalaan:
Eh,

Isn't surprising.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] msl7052:
i was willing to flash and try it out, oh well, maybe some other Chef might take a crack at it
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] gksmithlcw:
If there are resources available telling me how to get started with this, I would be willing to start working on it.

NightRaven, what do you think?
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] jack411:
i've tried the MicroSD method with the OEM rom and the method works.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] gksmithlcw:
So we know that the MicroSD update method works, for sure. What do we need to do to start cooking ROMs?
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] khalaan:
Well the first step would probably be to start organising a proper kitchen. The best bets for which would probably be to ask in general forums on rom development or on IRC.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] gksmithlcw:
I grabbed the kitchen linked at the beginning of this thread but I haven't yet looked it it. I'll take a gander when I get home later today.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] to0:
OEM ROM as in the one that came with the update, or OEM ROM as in a dumped stock ROM?

Flashing a signed ROM with the SD card is no feat at all.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] acidhax:
Well, I'm a developer offering his volunteer services. I just need some guidance, as this is my first experience with phone ROMs. Anyhow, if anyone needs a bit of a code monkey, bring it here.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] gksmithlcw:
+1

I, too, am a developer.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] happycollin26:
So, what's going on with this item?
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] khalaan:
We sent it off to go get cosmetic surgery, it will now be creating treo pro roms that look much more like touch pro roms.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] remydakid:
grr. we'll keep tryin.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] morganlowe:
I just got a sprint Treo Pro, I dont like it compared to my touch pro. The sprint store is offering me a touch pro in exchange for it. I want to offer this community something else.

Trade me phones... Make an offer. I have two anyways.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] Sloogle_Flugelmann:
wow

wow, so basically this was just a "hey you guys! i made a ROM for the treo pro" .. "oh sorry, i just got a different phone..... sucks for you" what the ****?
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] Sloogle_Flugelmann:
how is this going so far?
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] galfert:
I think this is a dead cause, and there is little hope for this project.

1) There is no HardSPL

2) There is little chance for a HardSPL because comparitively speaking ...odoption for this phone is low ...hence little excitment (relatively speaking)

It is too bad because I know someone that has a Treo Pro and after he saw what I did with my Touch Pro he was salivating. I came here to have a look, so that I could help my friend with a cooked ROM...but I see that there is little hope for my friend.

I'm going to advise him to sell his Treo Pro (while he can get something for it) and get a Touch Pro instead.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] Sloogle_Flugelmann:
ya but there is the micro sd card method.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] gksmithlcw:
So how do we go about cooking ROMs that will work?
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] shahran:
I really hope that there is a wm 6.5 update, and I wish I could help out but I don't know anything :(
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] we350z:
so we have something to work with and developers who have time and are willing to help but no one is taking any initiative? I'm not sure what can be done other than to get the original guy a treo pro somehow if we can convince him to build the WM 6.5 ROM...

How hard can it be? I would think the process for one wM phone would be relatively similar to the next...
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] gksmithlcw:
Apparently not, or we wouldn't be stuck with this dilemma... And I know NOTHING about custom ROMs, or I'd be more than happy to jump in. For now, though, I have to figure out how to code Today screen plugins... LOL
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] info[]box1:
if you know me you know i love my palm pro ...buying this phone i thought there would be an update to 6.5 w/ all the smart round here and ppcgeeks...seriously im going to buy a blackberry tour in few days...and put my palm pro in the box and wait for the day of a 6.5 update...
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] RyanNaz:
I'm totally willing to test a ROM. This will be my first ROM experience, so I'm nervous about it. I have backed up my current stock ROM using itsutils. I would also be interested in developing a 6.5 ROM, but I need to know where to start. I'm pretty fluent in C++, or at least to usually get around any obstacles. I'm a fast and eager learner, so given some time, I can really get some stuff done, I just need some encouragement and some help along the way; you know... someone that I can ask questions to when I hit a brick wall.

Also, by the way thing seem, the 6.5 ROM by NightRaven seems to be a dead project. I'm new to this whole 'cooking' thing with 'kitchens.' Anyone care to explain this a little better, or know a good source to learn from? I know Google is a great source, but you have to pick through the trash, and since I don't know anything, I don't know what I would be looking for.

Thanks!
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] we350z:
Well I would crack into it IF I had the time even tho I don't really know the first thing about ROM development either but it can't be that hard to retro a stock winmo 6.5 image from another (similar) phone to the pro using the reference sprint 1.04 image. Maybe I am mistaken. Just need to get the right tools and learn how to use them.

It sounds like the flashing method is working just there is something wrong with the ROM, as NightRaven mentioned he guessed at the settings. Maybe we can get that person to walk us through how to check them on the pro and change them on the custom ROM.

I would also think the comment about the ROM size difference is important as well. I don't see how 70MB could be shed (almost half the original size) and the ROM still usable. Maybe 6.5 trimmed a little fat but knowing M$ I find that very hard to believe...

Maybe I can get my hands on another pro somehow to either **** around with it or ship it off to someone who can?
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] we350z:
I don't think the issue is testing the ROM, someone has already tried that. If you are talking about continuing the development of the ROM that is another story.

Best thing would be to have access to another Pro in case you brick yours. However, you should be able to simply revert to the stock image and import your latest Sprite backup to get back on your feet. If you have insurance you could perhaps "lose" your phone and get a replacement.

It's been a while since I have done any C++ programming. I programmed a lot of Java in college, then C# and now webMethods/Java in my professional career. It's all the same to me anymore especially when I am hacking on someone else's code. I'm positive there are enough resources on this forum and posts to reference that would be able to get us there. We are not the first to want to build a custom ROM. I just wish I had the time to commit to it. I wanted to mess around with Android on my 800W but had the same issue - time.

The nice thing is that at least someone has already started working on the project and there is something to work off of most likely. Maybe it was all done wrong tho I don't know could be a heap of crap.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] we350z:
What bothers me the most is that my buddy has a crappy MDA II, which in my opinion is a bulky, less capable and less desirable phone then the Pro but because lots of people bought them and got locked into contracts there is a large following and ROMs are plentiful.

I have seen some on my friends phone and they are sexy.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] navenedrob:
If you guys need help cooking the Pro ROM let me know. I have experience cooking with ervius kitchen and with the Treo 750. :)
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] polobreaka:
lets get the ball rolling again, id like to see some new ROMs for this phone. i will contribute some help if anyone like to teach me some basics.

i have no problem being a beta tester.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] we350z:
do you have a pro?
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] b_hound:
so... looks like everyone is willing to help (I'd do any testing needed), but nobody knows how to get started!
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] RyanNaz:
I guess any help is welcomed!

I'm ready to get something going in hopes for a snappier UI.

Is there a way to truly brick my phone? I have the itsutils backup of the phone as well as a sprite backup. I'm guessing that the bootloader is hardcoded into the phone so it cannot be erased, right?
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] we350z:
Snappier UI would be great, tho the processor is only ever going to be so fast (ARM 530 Mhz) especially on the crappy underlying M$ OS code which won't be changed. I'm not sure I understand the real benefits of winmo 6.5 (eye candy?) - in fact I would think that it would be more buggy since it is less mature than winmo 6.1, so what do we really want here? Is it more efficient or something? Better/more features?

I don't think you can truly brick your phone. I would think the boot loader is at the firmware level and just hooks the ROM. So as long as a working, bootable ROM is present and being hooked then it should load.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] johnjtaylor:
The whole issue with needing the hard-spl is that it allows you to upload and flash a home-cooked ROM that has not been signed with a HTC-authorised certificate. No certificate=no flash, so even if the bootloader is hard-coded (which I don't think it is, since it can be upgraded) we can't do anything without one of the XDA-Jedi helping us out by working their magic to produce a hard-spl. The Treo Pro just doesn't have the weight of numbers to get their attention I'm afraid, so unless someone at Palm or HTC leaks us the info, we're stuck.

Shame, but not the end of the world - the TP is by far and away the most stable smartphone I've ever used.

John
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] to0:
The other option is superCIDing the device with its stock bootloader. Hell knows how to do that, though.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] we350z:
I see the predicament now - booting an unsigned ROM. These checks are built into the firmware / bootloader? I would think not since certificates expire. Where does the certificate exist? Can it just be replaces with a self-signed certificate or something or otherwise spoofed or altogether disabled? Is this a problem on all HTC phones? We just don't have enough critical mass to have someone inclined to do these things for us?

I guess I don't get it. Can't we just perform a similar procedure that has been done on other HTC phones? Why is hard-spl capability so important?
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] PedroDaGr8:
The 530Mhz arm in your phone is actually pretty good. As for 6.5 it is revisionary in nature, but it has a LOT of good features with respect to trying to move away from requiring a stylus. I like the new home screen in 6.5 that replaces the today screen. The start menu is different. Kinetic touch scrolling (so you don't have to use that damn scroll bar) etc. These all are why I run 6.5 on my Touch.

I will say though that the version of 6.1 you have on your phone is one of the best out there. My wife got one recently and I have been impressed.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] we350z:
Nightraven is saying we must have hardspl to get anywhere. He mentioned cmonex wrote it from the touch pro and we should try to get her help.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] we350z:
It does seem very stable, especially coming from the 800w which was 6.1 and buggy as a mofo. I don't get random **** happening like my today screen disappearing and never coming back, losing hard/soft buttons, status icon weirdness, unrecoverable outlook (push mail synchronization errors) corruption, etc...
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] PedroDaGr8:
You all REALLLY need to try to get someone like Cokeman or CMonex to write you an Unlocker or HardSPL.
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] Sloogle_Flugelmann:
"Rom doesn't work due to a bug in them kitchen. I will build another Monday night."

has it been Monday night yet? :rolleyes:
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] shufflez:
I have a 'no-operator' Treo Pro

Can i be of some help to one of you "Kings of Mods" by supplying my firmware from my original (got it directly from Palm), no-operator, no-simlock (i guess, haven't tried any other operators) Palm Treo Pro?

Reading in to firmware-dumping right now, does a dump also dump all settings and apps? If so i'm gonna wait until i get my new HTC, as the Palm is my primary-phone (and i'm not going back to S730's and stuff :)).

Let me know! If you want me to try stuff, just PM me!
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] osirisHTC:
Treo Pro + WinMo 6.5 = Great !

Hope a good cooked ROM makes it [:)]
[Palm Treo Pro ROM Development] DWC316:
my friend has a palm 800w from sprint, will this rom work on it?