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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] EWAdams:
This doesn't help with the hanging problem, but I've done some hunting and I think I know what's causing the damned "handsfree activation" thing. I've got a Sprint CDMA phone that I bought in Europe. It's new and has never been used on the Sprint network. Unfortunately, this means it tries to do the handsfree activation process every single time I turn on the phone, and of course it fails because it's trying to contact Sprint (why? what does handsfree operation need the network for?), adding three or four wasted seconds to the boot process. I haven't been able to find anything in the registry about this.

The answer seems to be that Microsoft supplies something called Windows Mobile Device Manager to phone manufacturers or anybody else who wants to roll out a large number of phones. It enables all kinds of things to be done remotely -- if you're a company and a vital company phone has been stolen, you can kill the phone remotely.

Anyway, I think it enables the phone to run certain things at boot-time that don't appear in either the registry or the StartUp folder -- including this damned thing. I'm never going to use Sprint, so I really want to find a way to kill it.

I suppose the answer is probably a new ROM, but I'm not ready for that -- haven't yet figured out which one I want. In the meantime, if anybody knows how to disable the "Windows Mobile Device Manager" in a Sprint TP2, I'd like to hear from them!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] killerz298:
So I haven't had this problem since 2/28/2010. Last time I just put it on the charger overnight and it was back to normal in the morning. This time, no such luck. The last thing I was doing with the phone before this happened was using Google Maps application. After I was done, I closed the program and turned the screen off. About 10 mins later I turned the phone back on and took a few photos and then shut the screen again. About 10 mins after that when I turned the screen back on I was on the black today screen with just the menu bar and soft keys on the bottom. I reset the phone and it did that activation crap which I cancelled. Is there any way to load TouchFlo manually? I goto the exe that is listed in the startup folder but when I run it nothing happens.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Rose4uKY:
I had to reset my TP2 3 or 4 times and then I got 6.5 and thought I was ok. But after 2 months had to reset it once also. Maybe it was something I was installing I didn't know. But I could always tell when it was going to do it cause I would be at work and all of a sudden it would be so slow and text or email wouldn't open and it lagged so bad. I work in a hospital basement where I never got a good signal at all and it was always seraching for signal. I thought that vwas causing it. I didn't have roaming on my plan back then and it was always on Sprint only. But everytime my phone rebooted it went into that hands free activation which Sprint told me was for people activating a phone for the 1st time. They wanted to send me a refurb phone and swap mine out and I said no and just did a hard reset. But I thought 6.5 was great until 2 months after having it I had to hard reset again. I had most stuff backed up on my memory card and my contacts on the sim so it wasn't that bad. But setting up emails and doing everything all over was a pain. Maybe it was a program I still don't know and don't care anymore.

But I sold my TP2 a few days ago hard reset it sold it plus all my accessories for 150 and am now getting the EVO. I can't wait. I love this site and so many people helped me learn Windows Mobile and helped me with my TP2. It was my 1st smartphone ever. But now I can't wait to try out Android. I will be getting my EVO next week. I've joined a few other Android Forums too and all I've been doing for 2 weeks is reading about thew EVO and Android and watching videos. So many cool apps I have a list made already too. I can't wait for this phone. Had to go back to my Purple LG Lotus till I get my EVO.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] killerz298:
Lol.... who did you sell it to? Can't wait until they are harassing you in 2 months when the problem happens again. I have seen reports about this all over the web but I still haven't found a solution. So far I am going on 24 hours of the phone not working. I will have to hard reset as I wanted to jump to 6.5 anyway but I don't think I can backup the phone in this condition as it is SOOOO slow.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Rose4uKY:
I don't think it was the phone it was something I put on it. Cause I hard reset it once and didn't install anything on it for over a month and it was fine. So I put everythign back on it and 3 weeks later I had to hard reset again. So I don't think it was the phone. I sold it on Craigs List. I had a 2 gig card a Sprint Car Chager and a docking cradle that charged the phone plus an extra battery and an extra screen protector the book the box the main charger all for 150. I think it was a good deal!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] killerz298:
People keep saying it must be something we put on it but what is the explanation as to why mine went back to normal the next day without any changes on my part and stayed good for about 3 months and then just out of nowhere happened again.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] killerz298:
48 hours and the phone went back to normal again... I did a full backup and I am going to do a hard reset anyway as I wanted to upgrade ROMS. This issue is VERY weird.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] killerz298:
So it seems this issue pops up for me every 2 months or so. I can't seem to find a common reason why it happens. Today the phone slowed down when I was in the mail program and then I got the busy icon for quite some time so I soft reset and now it is back to not loading Touchflo 3d. I guess in 2 days it will go back on again lol. I am still running stock WM 6.1.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] killerz298:
Interesting. So 1 hour later the phone was sitting on my desk on the charger and I missed a call and then out of nowhere Touchflo just fired up. Is anyone else still experiencing this weird issue?
[XPERIA X1 General] msc125:
Hi,

I've searched Google and the forums, and can't find a solution to this...

I need to make audio notes regularly with Resco Audio Recorder. So I usually make a note, minimize the app, and bring it up again to record a new note.

The problem occurs when someone calls- they can't hear me. It must be that the mic is being used by Resco AR, so can't be used for the call...?

If I receive a call, and shut down Resco AR during the call, the other person still can't hear me, until a few secs or so later... sometimes 30secs

Any ideas for a way around this if possible?

Cheers

p.s. If I turn on the 'record all phone calls' option, the other person can hear me. This is pretty useless though for two reasons:

1. the app doesn't record their voice! (It's faint, but that's what the mic picks up from the speaker)

2. I don't want to fill up my storage with random phone calls!
[XPERIA X1 General] yeouda:
I have the exact same pb!

I did not havethe time to find another replacement so maybe it's time?? ;-)
[XPERIA X1 General] killer8nl:
No offence but isn't it a better idea to post this question in the resco support forums?
[XPERIA X1 General] msc125:
none taken killer

i've posted on resco today too, but was on here at the time so posted it here. plus; from looking on the resco forums no-one seems to have this problem, so it's probably xperia specific.

i think either resco AR needs to release the mic when a call comes, or the xperia needs to takes over the mic (gives phonecall the priority).

but how to do this? if at all possible.....? :(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Will be update soon.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
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[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigDaemon:
ok, nice that anyone has picked up the project, but some more information would have been nice :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ASK768:
Yes, I am very happy that work has resumed but it would be nice to have some form of roadmap in terms of what you are trying to achieve like the hardware zoom thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=515701

thanks again for taking the time to do this. Im free for any beta testing :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Ya it's a very nice idea. I will add roadmap very soon.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Give me some time i will fill all the details in first post.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] 1337_V1k1n6:
Nice to see someone is still working on this. I have been following the development since it was started, and would really like to help. However my programming skills are litterally non-existent, so probably not much I can do apart from cheeering you on? beta testing? let me know..

Cheers
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Kenia1234:
Finally,

Some people like myself too, were hoping in that. A full working version of android on the touch HD...Good luck...and post your results...we would be really pleased to test...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ataide26:
tuxhero - Your the man

Hi tuxhero,

Touch HD is a very good device, but windows is not a good SO.

We all know windows, slow, always crashing...lost os bugs...

Android in Touch HD would be real great.

I'm available to do developments, testing, anything.

Try to describe really well, provide helpful link....you know info that can help...

I'm joining this TEAM TUXHERO ANDROID BLACKSTONE

It seams that at least now things are going on the right track, we have people working.

See you my friend...You are the man!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Why is Windows not a good OS? I'm not a fan at all, but such statements are simply not true. Furthermore you should consider that Windows has nothing to do with Windows Mobile ...

Mine isn't crashing that often, isn't slow and I haven't noticed any bug so far.

Just to make it clear: I don't want to hamper the development. In fact I would love to see an alternative to Windows Mobile, but saying things like above aren't the right motivation!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tammis:
Windows Mobile - even in 6.5 version is good couple years behind functionality of Android or Iphone OS. It was build for PDAs or Pocket PC and it was working perfectly fine for those devices.

BUT for HTC Blackstone - it is not suitable, yes TouchFlo is making this beautiful phone usable, but its only thanks to it one can appreciate it's functionality.

That is why I would LOVE to see Android working on Blackstone.

So thank you for trying. I will be among the first people that will test it whenever you will make it available. [I am just a phone user/gadget lover - so can't help more than that;)]
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Terrorhuhn:
I don't think that WM is a bad OS.

Ok, the shipped ROM of my HD was... omg it was horrible.

But when I look at the actually cooked ROMs, they are very fast and stable.

There smoothnes is almost as good as the Iphone's one.

I think all OS's has there positive and negative aspects:

WM is not the userfriendliest, but fully customizeable!

Iphone OS is very userfriendly, but its customizeable like a Gameboy (Customizeable don't means installing different programms)

Android is an alternative to both OS. Userfriendly and customizeable. So if anyone isn't that happy with WM, Android is an good alternative.

I would support this project with all I'm able to.

Greets
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Thankyou for your support but please limit this thread to Android Porting only don't use it for other stuff.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Some kind of sum up would be nice, I guess its too hard to get involved by reading the whole "old" thread ...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dmitry N:
Funny :)

I bet this thread is going to nowhere. Mr. starter will disappear in a day or two.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3938291&postcount=18 - good excuse :)

I'm sorry, of course, for bringing that to the public.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ddhb:
Is it possible to extract the kernel from the HTC Magic ROM and test it on our Blackstone?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
It is possible but you don't need to extract it we already had source code so we can compile it. But the problem is blackstone is not designed to run Android

that changes lot of things. Now our task is to find what we need to change n change it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ddhb:
So you said that you are using the android-msm and not the htc-msn kernel for now.

What kernel did xmoo and obus(?? not sure about the name ^^) use? The htc-msm?

Is the android kernel as good as working as the version from obus/xmoo, or is it working better in the moment?

Sry for my english *g*
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bonesy:
2.6.29 Dont just botch from the old one. Start fresh :-)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] wizern23:
The HTC hero is not running donut. It is running 1.5 Cupcake.HTC basically customized cupcake in the same way they customized windows mobile. The created a new home app and graphics,they made some of the apps resemble their counterparts on touchflo3d with a slider at the bottom.Along with adding in social networking they had to chang some of the frameworks and libraries.

Visually, the hero software would be the best for this device.Aesthetics aside its not fully functional. It doesnt have bluetooth yet and on the g1 it loads slowly at boot and the more stuff thats on the main screen it has to load more frequently and takes longer. This might be because of the hardware its running off of but its not a full build from htc but only part of one. It wuld be better if an official rom is used like that of the magic/ion or the ota update until the full updated hero rom is released.

This might seem like a rant to some but i wrote this to help point development down the right road and not one that will lead to even more problems to work out.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daniel.hunt:
This poll is meaningless to most people, which, unfortunately, means that they'll just see "android" in the kernel name and vote for that without understanding what it means
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] debsid:
HTC Magic

Hi Tux Hero;

I just went to a cellphone shop the other day and saw the HTC Magic for $650

If it would help you I could go buy it and dump the ROM/Kernel for further development in this project.

As you already know The Magic is similar to Blackstone, except for no 3G, smaller screen and some other missing features.

Post back, as I follow this thread daily, and have been from the start.

Cheers and good luck.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kuyichi:
I agree with that...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Hi !!!

look this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFNjGtGrwjM&feature=player_embedded
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ZeuBug:
"Which Kernel Should Be Used

android-msm-2.6.29

htc-linux-2.6.27"

I don't know, my knowledges end more before! :) (same for english... :D )

But I'm waiting for this wonderful project and I wish the best to the magic xdadevs!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ReijMan:
I hope people who vote know the actual difference.

Have no idea myself.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
:D

Looks great! Smooth!

I want to try it! :o
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Kai0:
You can try it yourself.

Just follow the instruction for Running Android 1.0 on this link

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlackstoneLinux

It's the old project.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alex Slane:
Best of luck with this one guys , would love to see andriod working on my Blackstone.

Keep Up the good work.

Alex
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] body85:
read the first page... there are the difference :-)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ZeuBug:
THX!!! :D :p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gerdgerdgerd:
thats right, but develope on an older version isn't very in intelligent. There are no reasons why we should not use the android-msm-2.6.29 kernel. The only thing is the older project with all the associated milestones.

So when tux musst clean and structure the old projekt, he also can ported to android-msm-2.6.29.

@ tux

i haven't seen something, yet, but i like your work. ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
I am very sorry for confusing every one by poll option. One of our member in this community is have fun of our project that's why i created that poll. Our work on android-msm-2.6.29 kernel will be continued. Thankyou for all your support.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
@gerdgerdgerd

I can just port old code to new kernel and release it in just few hours but it will not be any different from the android version available in our wiki http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlackstoneLinux

That's why i am reading all the code line by line and checking how and why our old kernel dev team wrote it and seeing if we can do it in a better way if we can, then doing it in a better way. Normaly this process should not take much time but our old kernel dev team wrote code in most ugly way as they can.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hobbit19:
android-msm-2.6.29 make better use ofe better use of
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Geeba:
Just wondered why they got sooooo far on this then stopped developing it? I remember reading about driver issues but the thread got really long and to be honest I stopped reading it..... not that my interest level dropped but isnt there a chance this project could come up against the same barriers? :confused:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
We are going to get to same barriers very soon Geeba but i am not going to give up like others. More over i not even thinking of giving up we will get through all the barriers. NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE WE CAN DO IT
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Giblet-dono:
Yes We Can

And We Will!

TuxHero GOODLUCK!

I will be following this thread on a daily base!

Your making soem dreams come true!

You are the hero!

Great Greet Giblet
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daniel.hunt:
Seriously, you have got to stop making these kind of veiled insults. You're doing absolutely nothing to further the cause of Android on the HTC Touch HD by alienating yourself from anyone else who may be interested or willing to help.

Why should *anyone* help you in this particular thread (or even task) if they're afraid of you stabbing them in the back as soon as they realise they don't have the time they thought they did, and have to drop out at various times in the future?

You should be trying to build a positive feeling for this project, not putting it in jeopardy just so you can get a few sly digs in at other devs who couldn't do what you hope to do.

I really do wish you well in this, mainly for selfish reasons, as I would *LOVE* to have Android on my Blackstone, but I just can't sit by while you insult other devs like this.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Giblet-dono:
It is not his intention to insult these people

he is just saying what in his opinion has happened, they have dropped out, they stopped at the barriers, he won't

So it's in his opinion just telling the truth, and not trying to hurt others, but just simply saying what it is, what happened
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daniel.hunt:
I disagree, his comments come across to me (a native English speaker) as intentionally insulting. It may well be the truth, but saying things in a factual way, and insinuating that others are the worst devs to have walked the Earth are 2 entirely different things.

Anyway, I don't want to drag this off in a tangent, so, wooo for Android \o/
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
It was some drivers issue, lack of support and lack of support from the people.

Good Luck guys,

I'm kind done with the whole XDA thing, planning te get a blackberry or Iphone....

And daniel, I do remember ur name.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daniel.hunt:
Unfortunately, this is the exact kind of response I was hoping to avoid.

*sigh*

Xmoo - you don't know me, but I know of your work. Sad to see you go.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] idandush:
i am thinking on doing the same , might wait to see if the Android will go anywhere , but if not , i will have to sell my touch HD . and find some device with either android or iphone .

cant take the WM operation on daily basis - not fun .:mad:

so GOOD LUCK , god i hope you make it !
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
The thing is Android is becoming big, but then again still more updates are needed etc.

Let's pretend you get Android 1.5 to work, when the new Smasung Android phone releases Android 2.0 will release. So you have to get Android 2.0 to work.

Look @ apple, after long times they release updates for Iphone, The update has many good things in it.

Microsoft brings WM6.5, no new thing..... Just the design (in my eyes)

Microsoft Update service, added in Wm6.1 never used......
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
This topic is starting to get off track. :(

Please dont bring the "WM vs. Iphone vs. Android discussion" here.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] 1337_V1k1n6:
xmoo.. i was not expecting you to promote iphone in this way :P updating the os after 1 year with functions that should have been there in the first place?

Oh well.. sad to see you leave, would have been great to have you using your skills in this thread..

Cheers!!

EDIT: Sorry nizzon.. didn't mean to.. it just kinda happend :P
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Geeba:
Bump that! - will be a real shame....
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] brumbrum:
Please, keep this thread focused!

Tuxhero will do a great work!

Previus developers have done a great work figuring out how things worked, and now tuxhero is making it compatible with the Linux kernel development filosofy. Let him continue the work!

If I had the time I would work on this to, but my ordinary work takes alot of time, and I really dont have the motivation of sitting at a desk all day writing code and then come home to continue writing code. If I had the time I really would have helped.

Lets see if I have work after last Aug. If I dont I may start committing code to this project if Tuxhero makes it public.

Lets hope he feels that he can do it soon.

Thanks!