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[G1 General] deprecate:
If you really want to know, I can nuke it from ADP1 and see what happens :)

I think I'm going to remove Talk as well...

UPDATE:

Camera uninstalls just fine. I rebooted for good measure and the phone acts no different other than you now have no camera :) I use the camera as a barcode scanner to compare prices and such and because of that, need the awful camera functionality.

Now onto Talk.
[G1 General] rsfaze:
So now it won't be long before we have custom images with and without applications.

NICE
[G1 General] Duncan79:
Nice one. *goes to nuke some junk* ;)
[G1 General] deprecate:
So removing Talk, at least on the ADP1 as I have not tested on RC30 yet, removes the remaining IM "stuff" from the phone. I tested gmail and it still syncs just fine without Talk (I suspected it would).

I noticed anther apk that I am interested in; gtalkservices. Will update with results.

gtalkservices.apk being removed will cause a nice error on start-up...

"Sorry!

The process com.google.process.gapps has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again."

Time to reinstall that one :)
[G1 General] deprecate:
Okay so if you remove Camera.apk you will find yourself unable to do certain tasks.

I left my freshly setup ADP1 alone and installed my favorite file manager. I then opened up a background image to set it as my wallpaper. It worked fine.

I then removed the usual suspects from my phone:

# rm AlarmClock.apk Browser.apk Camera.apk Email.apk IM.apk SoundRecorder.apk Talk.apk VoiceDialer.apk com.amazon.mp3.apk

For whatever reason I went to change my background only to find it error out. I then put Camera.apk back in assuming that was the culprit for whatever reason...

Anyways, this fixed my issue.

So yeah, if you nuke Camera.apk be prepared for oddness :)
[G1 General] Mi|enko:
What are the adverse effects of removing those apps? For instance, I'm thinking that Shazam probably doesn't work without the SoundRecorder.
[G1 General] Beast84:
When I type su it says denied. Do I need to be conected to a computer with the SDK or is this done straight from the phone?
[G1 General] deprecate:
So that's the thing...everyone's mileage will vary depending on what they actually use.

Your best bet is to pull the apk to your pc and then remove it from your phone. Next test out your other apps and if they don't work, simply push it back from your pc :) Yeah it's a bit of trial and error but at least you will be able to streamline your phones once all is said and done!

I pulled everything from/system/apps into a folder "adp1 apks" after a fresh install so I could do just that.

Have you rooted your phone? You should be able to type su from your terminal app on your phone. If you are getting perm denied, it sounds like you have not rooted your phone yet.

If you fire up adb, can you "adb remount" or how about "adb shell" and then once at shell, try "mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock03 /system" again...

If that fails, I would venture to guess your phone still has the stock, consumer image on it :)
[G1 General] Duncan79:
Yea. It unfortunately removes "pictures" along with the camera. And you can't set an image as wallpaper from within a file manager either. I'm not fussed about this, but anyone wanting to change their wallpaper should leave the Camera where it is. ;)

Alternativly, set your wallpaper first, then remove camera. Keep a backup for if you wanna change backgrounds.

You should, in my opinion, remove the .odex files along with the .apk ones when removing apps. ;)
[G1 General] Beast84:
I have JF 1.31 on my phone... how do you fire up adb? Is that done from the computer? I'm totally lost. i thought i had root but I got the denied response on the auto rotate browser too
[G1 General] deprecate:
I just left Camera in place. I find I change wallpapers every so often and prefer to not have to deal with Camera.apk again.

As said by jashsu:

"Part of it is MyFaves sure, but another reason that the RC30 image is larger is that on official production builds, all the apps in /system/app have their class objects extracted and optimized by dexopt during build. The resulting odex file is placed alongside the apk. In contrast, on the ADP1 the dex file is created at runtime on the ADP1 itself and is stored in /data/dalvik-cache. The net result is that there is much more space in the /system partition for ADP1 users, but as the user runs core platform apps, the /data partition takes the hit.

Example storage sizes for Alarm Clock, one of the core platform apps:

On RC30:

/system/app/AlarmClock.apk 131K

/system/app/AlarmClock.odex 55K

On ADP1:

/system/app/AlarmClock.apk 157K

/data/dalvik-cache/system@app@AlarmClock.apk@classes.dex 55K

I don't keep many third-party apps installed at any given time (usually about half a dozen) so the additional hit to /data isn't an issue for me, but users who are already experiencing space constraints on /data should keep the above in mind if considering ADP1 build."

All that being said...I have already gone through and cleaned up the dex files for the removed applications.

-grab the sdk

-browse to the tools dir in cmd

-type adb remount

-if that does not fail, you have root on your machine and have now enabled your ability to nuke stuffs inside /system/app/

-type adb shell

-when done, exit out
[G1 General] Beast84:
So I probably sound like an idiot but what is cmd & how do I browse in it? I didn't know I had to do this to get root but I am all for learning
[G1 General] :
cmd = Command Prompt

Use "cd (full directory of tools folder)" then type adb commands
[G1 General] Beast84:
Sorry but I don't see a Command Prompt in the SDK? Am I missing something? How do I open this cmd?
[G1 General] :
Start>Run>cmd

Can you do that?
[G1 General] Beast84:
So I do this...

Then this...

And then...

All on the computer correct?

And finally this on my phone?

And this is all done with the phone connected but not mounted???
[G1 General] borodin1:
Would this work with AIM app as well?
[G1 General] borodin1:
Or I can just look in this thread to find me an answer :) I'll just shut up now and start paying more attention.
[G1 General] borodin1:
This should be a sticky as well
[G1 General] borodin1:
Guess what, I did not remove Gtalkservices.apk and it still gives me the same error. I removed Im.apk, ImCredentialServices.apk, Talk.apk and corresponding odex files though.

I should also mention that I used to get a different error on start up prior to removing any files. Cant remember what it was but it was related to GoogleTalk. Happened after installing a theme. Oh well, one error is not going to kill me (. Just wish I could get rid of it somehow.
[G1 General] deprecate:
Yeah, I can tell you exactly what happened :)

I mentioned somewhere in some thread that gtalkservices and Im* are not okay to remove. IM.apk however is fine to remove.

I got my phone exactly how I wanted it, then nand'd before really mucking about...this way I lose at most 10 minutes :)

To fix your issue, just push those apks back to your phone (assuming you backed em up).

As far as the errors after installing a theme...if you notice, themes put stuff back on your phone; clean out your /system/app/ of all those nasty apps you dont want, then install a theme. Those apps are back.

My guess is that a theme tossed something in/overwrote something which caused an error. It may be best to install the factory default theme for your particular image (ADP1, RC30, etc); you can find the stock themes in another thread...
[G1 General] stonefurry:
deleting youtube apk

can you delete the youtube.apk? I never use it but will it effect the browser when you want to watch a youtube video.

thanks guys:confused:
[G1 General] JesusFreke:
Make a backup, then try it and see :)
[G1 General] borodin1:
Thank you. I must've missed it somewhere because I was under impression that you can remove IM stuff all you want. We'll, time to re-read this thread once more.:D:D:D

Once more, thank you.

ps: Out of curiosity, does anyone know what that process does? ( com.google.process.gapps )
[G1 General] Mikey:
How do you backup an .apk file???
[G1 General] daveid:
for built in apps:

adb pull /system/app/xxx.apk xxx.apk

for downloaded apps:

adb pull /data/app/xxx.apk xxx.apk
[G1 General] JesusFreke:
I was talking about alt+b in recovery mode :)
[G1 General] deprecate:
As already stated...give it a try :)

One quick question...how are you going to watch a youtube video without youtube.apk?
[G1 General] Mikey:
Using Flash, they are all anticipating for!!!.....I had too lol
[G1 General] Mikey:
Has anyone figured out what the "Talk.apk" is used for???

Using ADB shell, is there a way off backing up the folder /system/app as a whole? or just an apk at a time?
[G1 General] [RiS]:
Isn't Talk.apk the GTalk IM provider?
[G1 General] deprecate:
Yes. If you don't use GTalk, there is no reason to keep this on your phone.

If you nuke Talk.apk in ADP1, you will notice that the IM icon also vanishes as it is the only IM instance installed by default.

Of course, the moment you install a theme, you are going to have to re-remove it.
[G1 General] Mikey:
Thank You :)
[G1 General] tehseano:
How to Remove Default Apps?

I have root access with JFv1.31, I wanted to know how to remove the default apps? I didn't find anything searching :(
[G1 General] :
what apps are you trying to remove?
[G1 General] tehseano:
Amazon MP3, Camera, Email, YouTube
[G1 General] Seenochino:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=467021&highlight=delit

this helped me.
[G1 General] factor6:
I would like to thank you for all your help and prompt replies, its people like you that make xda what it is
[G1 General] twistkill:
so i am assuming if you have all the apps installed onto the SD card, you can just delete the apk files from within ubuntu or other ext2 compatible OS?
[G1 General] foxtrickle:
adb remount

adb pull /system/app [destination folder]
[G1 General] loomism2:
This is going to sound like a dumb question, or at least a noob question, but here goes: How do you know the name of the app .apk you want to delete? For instance, I want to keep the Amazon app, but delete the IM app, the camera app (I use snapphoto), and maybe a few others, but I'm not sure what their equivalent to com.amazon.mp3 is. Surely there is an easy way to find out that I am just overlooking, right?

EDIT: installed Linda File manager and found the list by clicking on My Phone, then system, then app. Is it OK to delete Camera, or does SnapPhoto need it to function as well? I only ask because SnapPhoto can be made the default camera so I would think it is it's own separate entity.
[G1 General] Beast84:
If you delete the camera.apk, you lose your pics app & the ability to change your wallpapers
[G1 General] loomism2:
Thanks! That's good to know. That would have been very bad.
[G1 General] savethechicken:
Thank you finally able to get in and delete the apps I dont like that are being pre-installed on some themes now. Awesome thank you for all you do here.
[G1 General] :
Has anyone figured out if its ok to remove the Music app yet??
[G1 General] Beast84:
Agreed I would like to replace this with tunewiki. Have you tried it?
[G1 General] :
No I havent tried it lol I am so tired of having to fix my phone that I dont want to try new stuff anymore lol
[G1 General] scriblz07:
so to remove another application do you need to know the directory where is located or you just replace the com.amazon.p3.apk with the name of the application you want to remove??

thanks
[G1 General] :
Its all in the same directory you just have to make sure you get the apk name right
[G1 General] scriblz07:
how can i find out out if the name is right??
[G1 General] :
If you have a file manager go to /system/app and you will see the apk's you have installed
[G1 General] scriblz07:
got it.thanx.just wanted to delete a couple stuff i dont use
[G1 General] jordanjf86:
Re Install Amazon

Hello this is my first post, hopefully i have not missed the answer somewhere. :) How would I go about re installing the Amazon app after i removed it? I took it off thinking I would not care to use it but now I want to re install it. :p Thanks for your help!
[G1 General] TimSykes:
why is this not a sticky post? Every time there is a update I come back to this post.
[G1 General] Jevans46320:
Forgive me for this but when I enter in all of the stuff before and then rm like email.apk I get an error saying cannot remove "email.apk" No such file or directory when I had done the Amazon MP3 method just fine with no problems

but I cant seem to delete the other ones I want off
[G1 General] justanothercrowd:
It Is Case Sensitive. "Email.apk"
[G1 General] Jevans46320:
Thank you very much!!!

Is music okay to toss? = p
[G1 General] jordanjf86:
Any ideas? Thanks :)
[G1 General] Angry Llama:
So yeah... I'm kinda an idiot-- can anyone toss me the IM.apk file for RC33? I thought for sure I pulled it before removing it, but whatever :(

Build Number says "kila-user 1.1 PLAT-RC33 126986 ota-rel-keys,release-keys"

Not exactly sure what that means, but I flashed the animated bootscreen after using JF's RC33 build, so that might be it.

SCREW it, just going to update.
[G1 General] duramas:
If you go into manage applications there will be a bunch of left over crap from what you removed, uninstall it from there and the error will go away.

At least it did for me.

I removed these while using haykuro's magic build 4.5:

amazon mp3

alarmclock

email

im

talk

voicedialer

calculator

bugreport
[G1 General] Mikey:
So you dont have the G1?
[G1 General] :
Ok now if I wanna remove apps from the sd card that arent listed on the phone, like nba gametime im trying to install it but it keeps saying in cant uninstall the old version, but the phone has no record of it, so what would be the command to find the app names on my phone and how would I remove them, an example using nba gametime which is on my sd card would be very helpful to get me started.
[G1 General] Sirus20x6:
im trying to get rid of extra crud. lets make a list of unneeded files!

I'm running the Ion 2 build from haykuro.

so to start off. anyone know if the following are needed?

/system/app/BugReport.apk

/system/app/DebugTool.apk

/system/app/DownloadProvider.apk

/system/app/FieldTest.apk

/system/app/ImProvider.apk (i dont have IM installed and im on AT&T not T-mobile)

/system/app/BugReport.apk

If you have knoledge about any of these files please do tell and I'll modify this post. If you know of any useless crud we can remove let us know and we'll get a list going! :)
[G1 General] Mikey:
Read the thread that merged you thread into and keep updating your post.

I'll take care of the rest.

Moved to the general section FYI :)
[G1 General] ThR1LL:
Recently I removed the Alarm Clock and my Analog Clock Widget disappeared. I would like to know of what other services are going to vanish with the removal of Amazon, Calculator, Email, Google Talk, and IM.

EDIT:

I'm currently running Cyan 3.6.8.1 and removing Amazon, Calculator, Email, and IM seem to be ok. I started running into problems when I removed Talk.apk and ImProvider.apk. Anybody know why?
[G1 General] brios86:
has any1 been following up with this ???
[G1 General] CheapTrikz:
Is there any way i can remove mobentoo/slideme and the stock g1 browser?

on 4.2.4.
[XPERIA X1 General] donci3:
Hello! I'm new but I have a big problem. In the enening when I go to bed I often turn off my Experia so I'm not interrupted at night and I can save my baterry. But the problem is that alarm in the morning doesn't want to ring and doesn't want to turn Xperia on back. I found recently the page on the web where somenoe said that it needs to be doen some hidden tweaks so that the WM doesn't try to look how full the baterry is before it sturts up. I can't find that page on the web again so can someone help me with this settings?

Than you.
[XPERIA X1 General] dwd:
use flight mode.

x1 cant wake up when off
[XPERIA X1 General] spr33:
I don't think any Windows Mobile phone is capable of waking itself up when it's powered down.
[XPERIA X1 General] DatDereX1:
you probably use just as much power turning the phone on as you would have used leaving it in stand by..... just sayin'
[XPERIA X1 General] donci3:
OK, so I have tried flight mode and it works but anyway does anyone know the hidden settings to change verifiing battery from wm before it turns on again?

Oh, and another problem on my Xperia. I noticed that when I don't use it the screen (backlight) aproximetely every once in 2 minutes turns on again (my power settings are: turn backlight off after 30 sec, standby mode after 1 minute). I think that why battery last only 3 days. Can anyone know how to fix this problem? Thanks.
[XPERIA X1 General] theasters:
Change your configuration : Settings / system/ ilumination (check here the items you have enable or disable "enable ilumination".
[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
Well basically, your device is off when you turn turn off the screen.
[XPERIA X1 General] darthmelk:
Not quite. You can always leave a lot of applications running with the screen off.
[XPERIA X1 General] donci3:
So what kind of setting to save as much as it can for battery or what kind of app du you recomend?
[XPERIA X1 General] Golgo:
First, as someone already said, a WM device can not turn itself on when powered down.

To conserve battery... well just make sure no CPU intensive apps are running in the background, wifi, BT, data connection are off and use auto backlight setting.
[XPERIA X1 General] donzoomik:
Most smartphones don't turn themselves on for alarm (WM, UIQ Symbian, S60 Symbians), but i can't tell for all (iPhone does as i've heard, no idea about Android).
[XPERIA X1 General] Ethermind:
PDA is not Mobile Phone.

It has operation system etc.

To run PDA you need about 1 minute for loading all components of OS.

To run Mobile Phone Alarm needs no load components of OS, just display and sound.

In PDA sound can be played with help of driver and so on.

In Mobile Phone just tiny assembler program and clock-chip.
[XPERIA X1 General] VNMenIeu:
I know my alarm worked before with Touch-It rom. But since I flashed with WM6.5 and my alarm doesn't go off when the screen is off. There's no way around this? :(
[XPERIA X1 General] h0rd4k:
I can't trust the alarm at all, it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Same on stock rom and 6.5. G-alarm is much better though..
[XPERIA X1 General] enseeess:
Are you talking about turning the phone off completely,or turning off to the standby stage ? If you use the standby stage, it works fine, and hardly uses any power in this mode.
[G1 Apps and Games] jacsonmoore3:
have anyone play with the new app call Nav4All on the market..http://www.nav4all.com/site2/www.nav4all.com/eng/index.php
[G1 Apps and Games] berchielli:
new?

It's a "arrow nav" app. It works, but i rather "map nav" instead.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rickou26:
My File

@+ Rickou26
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sheennick123456:
very nice tutorial :)

thanks a lot
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rickou26:
Thank you sheennick123456.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rickou26:
Hi,

A new screnn
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Rataplan:
Thanks rickou26 :) , I'm gonna give it a try and make my own.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rickou26:
Hi,

Good, we look forward to the result

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[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] brunoisa10:
tested the value for size of caracters for history call

not working on touch pro wm6.1
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rickou26:
Hi,

Update new build 23028 or newer and VideoDialer for LG KS20.

To remove the scroll bar just to make the following change -> HKLM \ System \ GWE \ cxVScr = 0

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[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rickou26:
Hello,

For KS20 user :

change only this key to swap Videodialer/WmDialer

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Phone\Skin] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ Security\ Phone\ Skin]

"ext" = "" -> Wm Dialer

"ext" = "\windows\LgePhoneExt.dll" Video Dialer

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[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] D'rath:
Good Tutorial but I have a little problem with DLL: I couldn't copy it on PC to change button size (I tried with Resco Explorer and PC Explorer).

I have a Touch HD with WM6.5 (see signature to specific ROM)

Thanks a lot ^^

D'rath
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rickou26:
Hi,

The simplest is to retrieve the DLL directly in the source files of the ROM (OEM or SYS). WM files are identical regardless of the PPC so you can use packetages filed by Da_G.

For your problem is simply that these DLLs are identified as belonging to the ROM which sometimes blocks their copy ...

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[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rickou26:
Hello,

build 23420 update to MediaFire.

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[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] vicbush:
Thank you for this tutorial, awesome work!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Major A:
Your dialer is nice and slick with latest pureblack theme compatible with COM3/4 branch. Great combo ;)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] listyb01:
Great tuto!! I have been through this many times and have yet to have success! It seems though this tuto is pre WM6.5 so I'm wondering if the .dll that the dialer calls on has changed in WM6.5? Or maybe the .dll I need to edit is different as I have a Samsung Omnia. I made all of the changes in tapres.dll.0409.mui and changed the image sizes accordingly but the dialer does not change! Any help?? I noticed the dialog header is 0,0,320,240, in the resource, does this mean it is only for that resolution? Thanks.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rickou26:
Hi,

totalcommander (or resco explorer) used to copy the dll into windows and overwrite the original.

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[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] listyb01:
I forgot to mention, I am a chef and I am just editing the .dll and then cooking it in. Maybe there is something I am missing there so I will try just adding the edited .dll to the windows directory. Thanks!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rickou26:
If the keyboard appears unchanged is that the original has not been replaced. No keyboard only appears if it is a problem signing the DLL. Also your kitchen must include this signature certificate ;-)

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[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] listyb01:
I assume the certificate you refer to is the text document that is generated when I sign the .dll? Clearly this is my first real attempt at editing .dll files except for some image resources that I have played with. I verified that the edited .dll is the one I am adding to my kitchen but my keyboard is still unchanged. I guess some serious reading about editing/replacing .dll is in order. Thank you for your help.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rickou26:
Hi,

When you sign your dll file if the generated text indicates "success ... but ..." is that your DLL is signed properly. Now he must also install on your sdkcerts.cab rom for the certificate to be fully operational. So you sign your DLL, you install it in the windows directory to replace the existing one and then you install the cab and reset.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] listyb01:
I have sdcerts installed and I got the success message after signing my .dll. I will have to go through and give it another go. Thanks