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[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
I'm not fan of "media libraries" thingy, I like it straight the old fashion way, like in the ms-dos times - I open, I don't want any library, indexing or so on.. Besides, didn't have enough patience. As you can see in videos, the screen is turning itself off every few seconds.. And I am not patient to load music there, wait for it to be loaded and turn the screen on every few seconds.

Besides I don't know HOW IT WILL BE IN FINAL VERSION, AS THIS IS PROTOTYPE, SO DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE AT THIS MOMENT, IT MAY BE CHANGED.
[XPERIA X1 General] D-SouthWest:
Too bad, but still thanks for give me (us) an answer:D
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
I lol'ed :).
[XPERIA X1 General] killerskincanoe:
ok so enough about the vulcan for just a quick moment..

this question shouldn't really be putting you at any jeapordy of revealing TOOO much... but how many phones would you say you get to see/playwith/test are we talking like just this one ...? or are there others? not looking for a name or anything... don't give too much away.. just a number... 3? 5? 14? just curious...
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
You mean WINMO as Xperia, or just playing/testing?

Playing/testing right now maybe 4-8 (won't tell you the exact number as it'll be too easy). WINMO..hmmm.. :rolleyes: Various devices.. From smart to "dumb" (ordinary) one.

sorry, don't like talking about this..
[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
I want your job. Any tips for little grasshoppers like me? Should I start working at phone businesses?
[XPERIA X1 General] adam18488:
nevermind...if you could pick one phone...would you have the x2 or the x3?

...or the iphone? haha i joke i joke...but yeh which one would u pick to keep?:)
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
bad question, hard to answer.. I like X3 design and X1 in real. X2 looks to me.. Bulky? X2 has great keyboard... Put X1, X2 and X3 in a blender, and you'll get the perfect device for me.

Or X3 with Winmo

Actualy my job isn't testing, it's something else at SE. But usually everyone from SE gets something to test..
[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
Put it in a blender and you get this:

No, man hell no. I don't want to be a tester. I want to work for a smartphone company. Probably office duties and get promoted to administrative or marketing jobs. If you have any tips that you think will help me get a job ANYWHERE within the smartphone world please gimme tips.
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
LOL, will it blend? That is the question LMAO

it's just job like any other else. Finding such job is also like finding other job. For administrative and like that, you don't need special education (ie no need for physics, no need for mechanics, no need for electronics). But I guarantee you, that after some time, it'll annoy you. Also you'll lose the excitement about new phones, as you'll know what's inside them, what obscure country are they produced in, which other world brand you share the factory in China with,....................................................................................... Rather stay as you are, you'll be more excited about new phones, new Xperias,....

Good night, i'll see what I can do tomorrow
[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
Goodnight, my sleeping beauty.
[XPERIA X1 General] jockep:
@Nevermind, Do you work in Lund? Since your display shows Myresjö i assume your from there, I would like to try phones to but it'll stay as a dream i guess, If i search a job can i work from Norrköping then? :)

Lol sorry just saw Czech, well then nvm i guess :P
[XPERIA X1 General] Jasand:
Ha Ha I think someone has a crush :p:p

Thanks for all the info nevermind and stay away from poetry
[XPERIA X1 General] oTToToTenTanz:
Goodnight for now...When you finished gaining power, tell us something about the cpu speed! Is it faster? :eek:

X3 with winmo, yes, that would be great. Maybe next device is android, but I probably miss my software for windows then...! Okay, I stay with winmo!
[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
Have you read through this thread at all?

Wow.. CPU is unimportant right now...

Wow.. We've been saying that the X3 is the android phone

Wow.. Maybe next device is android, but I probably miss my software for windows then...! Okay, I stay with winmo! <- Stop changing your mind.
[XPERIA X1 General] steph3n:
Where do you see illuminations LEDs in the 3rd video? I watched and stiill couldn't see them at all?
[XPERIA X1 General] T13B:
X1,X2,X3...X4?

X1 and X2 are winmo... X3 is supposedly android...:confused:

not sure which one to get...

I wonder which one will have most apps/games available by the time they are released...
[XPERIA X1 General] killerskincanoe:
i thought the same thing... after closely watching them all again.. all i could figure out is that you get to SEE "illuminations" in the list of apps or w/e that list is... but yea... ur not the only one who didn't SEE the LED's flash lol
[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
me too.. ...
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
steph3n: the last video, second middle. There is a white screen after going to service menu.. Just wait for it and you'll see a list of what X2 has at this moment.

Well, the final ROM will be faster of course. But already now in the video, you can see graphics which is really smooth (one of the xpanels). And the transition (hell how do you write this) effects as well. But until official, I do not know anything about the CPU inside :rolleyes:

If I compare it with beta of X1 I've got about one year ago, it's huge difference. Most beta X1 were really slow. Like rotating the screen took several seconds. This one has quite slow rom, but still you can see or feel the potential..

That's it.. It's just written there, but at least now it doesn't work (and I didn't see it work). So don't know if final X2 will have any illumination and this beta is just beta, or if it will have. About the LEDs, this is something I don't know for sure.
[XPERIA X1 General] killerskincanoe:
I did take great note of the smoothness of the graphics and the transitions were quite fast indeed.. i feel your pain on the screen turning off that would drive me nuts... is it just cuz it's a beta? or was it cuz the batt was so low and it was trying to turn the screen off to prevent it from shutting down?

anyway good stuff! the videos were awesome! loved getting to see that newer bigger FLUSH screen get touched!
[XPERIA X1 General] Mikulec:
Marketing department, am I right? :D
[XPERIA X1 General] xdadJeroen:
Nevermind,

Are you one of few x2 testers? Cause that would mean you have a significant influence on its development. That way when we all say what we think about your photos en videos we have a liiiiiittle bit of influence as well:p..

So.. just tell SE they should work in the 1 gigSnapdragon, the 8.1 MP camera, and stretch the screen and it'll all be fine:D:D

Jeroentje
[XPERIA X1 General] sudsnz:
I think the phone would look better if they changed the orange on keyboard and altered the design where the 2 soft keys are on the front face...it too 'bare' and empty face makes it look simple and un-innovative...add a couple more functional buttons and perhaps add some aesthetic design to the buttons..similar too but not exactly the same as X1.

The X1 buttons looked good...however I found I kept hitting the panel button when using button to answer call...and the down button...just too slim....buttons needed to protrude up in center of button to be more functional.

Speaker on X1 in wrong place...your plam covers it when you hold the phone...pretty obvious one..

Perhaps the optical pad on X2 could be made wider...and also acts as buttons...up, down left and right (rocking style)....Just my 2c worth.
[XPERIA X1 General] Mikulec:
One post above yours I have quoted him where he says he is not a tester.:rolleyes:
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
LOL, they will release a device which will turn itself OFF every few seconds. SE wants users to excercise their fingers LMAO

No seriously, it's because of beta. Battery was charged full in X1, but it's always showing low battery as you can see. That's a bug as well..

no, I'd never take such job. I'm doing something totaly different. Not marketing or similar stuff. Not even PR,..................................

Also not actualy real tester... Difficult to explain.. But I get my hands on new stuff, as probably everybody in SE.

xdadJeroen: this is just testing. It's not about telling what we want. They wont even listen to us, because design and features, that is done by someone else (maybe in Sweden or Japan?)
[XPERIA X1 General] gundamboy:
too bad there's no SE jobs in Canada =/.

Couldn't find any on the website haha.
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
WinMo has more and will keep it's lead in the near future, but by the time X3 gets out - who knows?

I don't give it much thought, but I find the LEDs extremely useful. Especially at night or in a loud place. Great idea by SE lol.
[XPERIA X1 General] jason544:
Noone knows until it is released

It could be totally different from the pictures leaked

Some people are stupid enough to frame people if they are passionate about something and they could of found out info but can not tell everyone

Only way to know is if someone from sony ericsson can tell us
[XPERIA X1 General] bo88y:
read the post carefully, jason stated the video was removed from that site and i showed him which video it would have been. i WROTE "dont think its X2"
[XPERIA X1 General] jason544:
It could of been a different video that was on that website

Sony ericsson could of seen it and asked the person to remove it

The video was removed but no reasons given

Hope it is released by the end of the year
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Thank you for calling me stupid. Very kind of you.

It is clearly another video.
[XPERIA X1 General] bo88y:
what ever it is both videos are old
[XPERIA X1 General] jason544:
I did not call you stupid

I was just refering in general that people can be stupid enough to frame people and put there jobs at risk

I was basically going into a little more depth to what you was saying

So in a way I was agreeing with you not being nasty towards you
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
;)

So, let's concentrate on the photos in the first post shall we?

I don't like it. :( It's ugly as hell. The back is nicer, EXCEPT the camera.
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
My bad then. :D
[XPERIA X1 General] jason544:
No problems I just don't explain my self correctly half the time

Wonder what the x2 will excatly be like not just leaked pictures or photos

Have the specs been leaked yet as I haven't searched for them

Anyone else have any other info?
[XPERIA X1 General] mr_sheen:
god...

that keyboard does look ugly. Its like touch pro keyboard,only a lot uglier.

The front screen looks quite okay for me.
[XPERIA X1 General] njao:
yeah the yellow light orange in the keys... FAIL! hopefully its an early prototype that has room for changes... it doesnt look like an xperia or SE at all... it look kind of cheapish...stil gona get it but my current x1 has a much better design...
[XPERIA X1 General] spikegotti:
lol mr sheen, if this suppose to be the x2, i guess i will be replacing the housing on my x1 until i see something that is sexy, and aint looking like an iphone either
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Couln't have said it better myself.
[XPERIA X1 General] mr_sheen:
lol...yea :p

what i like about the front screen is the size. Definitely better to watch movie...

all we need is the pict of the silver one...i suppose the keyboard will b silver too i guess...
[XPERIA X1 General] spikegotti:
orelsi its true, it seems as tho SE is the only brand that does not release iphone-looking phones, and i think the iphone is ugly (why do you think i dont own one lol)

mr sheen ummmm the screen size looks great, somehow i love the size of the x1, i think the screen size is neat...the foil-looking earpiece on the leak looks hottt, i love that :D

but you know, when i look at the x1, honestly, i do not see anything in the design that needs improving apart from the keyboard, the xperia x1 looks complete to me, all they need to do is decrease the plastic and increase the metal, providing the paint dont come off lol
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Let me paste something I wrote in another thread:

"About the iPhone.......... It is a piece of crap and was outdated even before it came out. It is a feature phone and not a smartphone/pocket PC. It lacks the basics and is bought mostly by people who either do not understand modern tech or think they will look trendy. Flashy and useless toy."
[XPERIA X1 General] DocMAX:
anyone has the prototype pictures of the X1? i'm wondering how funny they looked like...
[XPERIA X1 General] fards:
It's also highly amusing how he talks about the x2 with windows OS right next to a pic with the android logo..

it also has the android Home icon and no sign of windows key at all..

Nice mock up of a potential SE android device me thinks...
[XPERIA X1 General] FundeMentaL:
X2 is fugly if you ask me. Looks cheap.
[XPERIA X1 General] Golgo:
The X2 looks like a cheap-ass KIRF device. This better not be the final design.
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
That new homescreen i saw looks interesting also i saw tv-out on that list! woo!
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Finally..... They could have implemented TV-out and accelerometer in the X1, but nooooo - let's give them that in the next device, so that they will buy it.
[XPERIA X1 General] gundamboy:
you guys saw the vids? there's no more download links =[
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
What do you mean? The links are functioning just fine :confused:.
[XPERIA X1 General] oTToToTenTanz:
Yes, I have read through this entire thread already. :eek:

Asking about the CPU was irony but obviously nobody got my joke (ok it was lame...) :eek:

X3 is android. I know this for long. But when somebody asked nevermind what his favourite phone would be he answered "x3 with winMo"..I'm actually refering to that... :eek:

Just for you poetry, I stop changing my mind...still, I don't now what to praise higher -> look or function :D
[XPERIA X1 General] killerskincanoe:
@nevermind.. any whispers about whot he manufacturer will be for x2? we've been hearing it's foxconn.. can you confirm/deny? or no?
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
I thought foxconn was confirmed?
[XPERIA X1 General] killerskincanoe:
actually that blog you posted was from like dec 30 2008.. how do we KNOW that foxconn took the job? how do we know if it's even IN production.. we don't.. well.. i don't... u can think what u like tho :)
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=foxconn+xperia&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
[XPERIA X1 General] killerskincanoe:
yea and>? the first three or four links are to the same outdated bull****.. dec 30 of last year!

30 December, 2008, by Desire Athow

Rumours suggested that some of the relatively smaller names in the industry are among the favourites to acquire the contract for the new handset.

Sources further reported that Sony Ericsson is in final talks with three companies, including FIH (Foxconn International Holdings) and Pegatron, a manufacturing arm of Asus for manufacturing the new handset.

The deal with any one of the three prospective partners is expected to be closed by the end of the first quarter of 2009, with the Windows-mobile

powered handset is said to be launched by the end of 2009, the sources added.

where RECENTLY have you read that foxconn would be making the xperia2 FOR SURE!

i too use google. thx tho
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
sony ericsson has signed a contract with foxconn (its actually a company owned by foxconn starting with m, cant remember there name. but its near enough foxconn).

but we dont know which handsets the contracts for but one would assume it was the x2 as they are no longer using htc
[XPERIA X1 General] killerskincanoe:
i'm off to figure this out.. it's good news imo.. hopefully foxconn wn't hold out on certain stuff like drivers n the like... kinda how htc did with the x1... hopefully we get a fantastic product!
[XPERIA X1 General] THE GRIZZ:
nevermind,

what does SE thinks of all the stuff the comunity overhere are doing to their x1? are they ok with it?

maybe SE should give free x2 samples devices to the well known cooks here to jump start proper support on x2
[XPERIA X1 General] killerskincanoe:
oh damn that'd be awesome...

excellent question grizz
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Chill :D...
[XPERIA X1 General] informatico:
I think all those people of SE who own xperia flash it regularly here ;)

So they really should consider xda-developers support.
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Imagine the top people of SE browsing the ROM library haha.
[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
Nevermind, can you verify that there is a reset button and its current location.
[XPERIA X1 General] gundamboy:
Hopefully a release by the end of the year =D
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
removedremovedremovedremovedremoved
[XPERIA X1 General] killerskincanoe:
hmm.. lets just hope who ever's makin it gets on it asap!!!
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
of course, can't imagine Winmo device without reset button LMAO

And don't think such device exists..

By the way, the TV OUT works fine, seamlessly. But for serious movie watching on TV, you need good TV ;)

Accelerometer pissess me off a bit, because it works everywhere. Including the homescreen.. Feels bit too touchy..
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
Well I assume there will be OFF feature of accelerometer.

I will turn it OFF ASAP!!!
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Exactly. That's what i do on my N95.

I turn it on only when I want to try or use an app/game that utilizes it, which is pretty rarely.
[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
Nevermind, would you be able to tell us any information in changing the design of the X2?

I hate the design so much. What's the point in an 8.1 megapixel camera without an adjustable lens cover?

Why not make a gigantic optical joystick?

Why not have a bigger screen and therefore have EVEN bigger keys or MORE keys.

Why not LED indicators.

I can see why people want this thing because of these small steps upwards.

But by gradually (I mean slowly) making things better SE is being a big ****.
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
It has a bigger screen actually, and better keys too.

It also has LED.

Why the hell more keys???

I'm happy it doesn't look like TPro!!!
[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
Better key's that it. Look at the Touch Pro2. Type on the Touch Pro2. It is the BEST keyboard. You need a number key row instead of a unaligned dial pad. You need function and caps indicators.

The screen is 3.2 inches, and that's not an upgrade. What the **** do you get out of a .2 inch larger screen? Nothing. Not a good size for videos and definitely not a good size to be finger candy.

The Led seems to be a downgraded Led and the X1's LED sucked and lacked good software for it.

Even the Touch Pro's keyboard is better than X2. The only thing the X2's keyboard has to offer is better buttons and ctrl key. The layout is vomit. The colors are vomit.
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
I propose to vomit all the way.

But jokes aside, well, you don't have to like it.

I had TouchPro before X1. Would not put these devices in the same line.

Honestly, when I look at TP and TP 2 I also like to do what you just described. This design sucks for me, disgusting.

As for X1 keyb I like it and looks like X2 will really rock comfort-wise.

It's definitely a personal thing. Plus no too much rows - I don't need this HTC chaos here. The only nice things are those arrows for navigation.

And I will miss the mechanical navipad.

As for num-pad: well I thank SE to NOT implement stupid numbers in one line. No profi device uses such pattern. Happy to have them like it is!

The funniest thing you wrote about a screen. Well I wouldn't like to have a brick in my pocket, but anyway to me 3.5 inch versus these 3.2 is not any major killing difference for movie watching: none of these mobile devices give any real watching comfort, it's just too small. Don't be funny.

Have to see a real device, launched. Don't take it personally, these are my personal preferences.
[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
Anyway, I think SE won't disable accelerometer...was it possible to disable on the Touch Pro?
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
poetryrocksalot: i'm not the designer and I'll just get the device, report problems, bugs. But that's all. Eventhough I may report that I don't like the shape, design,......... unless it's a problem, they won't change it.. So that's it.

doministry+poetryrocksalot: well, I don't think there is a huge difference between 3.2in and 3.5in display for watching movies. Both are tiny for movies and it's just about compromise. Simple math says that 3.5-3.2 = 0.3in (to imagine more easily for European users, 0.3in is about 7.62mm!! That is less than 1cm).

So as doministry said, " 3.5 inch versus these 3.2 is not any major killing difference for movie watching: none of these mobile devices give any real watching comfort, it's just too small". Which is very true.

So for movie watching, I'd recommend getting a PSP, Cowon S9 or other similar devices with huge screen. But of course, it'll be always best to watch the movie fullscreen on your TV.

Myself, I don't see any point in hunting megapixels, megahertz, Ghz, tenths of inch.
[XPERIA X1 General] dashauns:
Yes, I havent seen a winmo phone where you couldnt disable the accelerometer
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
for me a 3.2" screen is about right, i dont want a 4" screen so the phone turns into a pda brick. All i want is an amazing phone, why anyone would want to watch a film on there phone is beyond me.
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
Agreed above. X2 screen is enough for me too, as well as X1.

Me personally - I would watch a movie on X1 or X2 screen. I just wanted to say, that GENERALLY whether it's TP2 or X1, the difference is not really so huge in terms of movie watching. PSP - that's bigger...
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
BULL****!!!!!!!!

Every single inch matters.

Bigger screen = better overall experience, better movies/videos, better web browsing for frack's sake, more finger friendliness, etc.

The fox and the sour grapes much are we???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fox_and_the_Grapes
[XPERIA X1 General] sa7640:
Personally, 3.2" is too small... I can read eBook comfortably when I am walking on street or I am traveling on bus using CLIE NX73V (3.8 inch display) comfortably. However, for XPERIA X1, it is a bad experience if I attempt to read eBook with it. The screen is just too small. You have to switch to larger font as a compensation.

I used to think that a smaller screen doesn't hurt as it is more handy and portable. However, after some real experience of using a large screen, I do not think that a 3.0" or 3.2" screen is suffiently large enough anymore... Sorry... I guess I can now only accept any screens that are at least 3.5"... If you do not believe me, you may try it out yourself if you get a chance... Of course, still, some people may have a different value on the trade-off between a more handy and portable device and the better experience brought by a larger screen...
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
???

Speak for yourself.

For you every little difference matters,

for me not. But don't call somebody's personal opinion a bull****,

since yours can be called the same.

And I hope you don't think you're always objectively right, do you?

BTW

"Every single inch matters."

Sure, since we talk about app. 3inch screens.
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
like i said i have no interest in watching films on my phone and for web use its not too bad for the minimal amount i use it. maybe finger friendliness u are right but i dont have a problem with finger friendliness on the x1 so the slightly bigger screen of the x2 will be as good if not better. i have seen and played with the toshiba tg01 and it has a 4" screen but the handset is way to big for a everyday phone and everyone i know who was played with it says its to big.
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Did I say, I was?

Anyways, a bigger screen is ALWAYS better when talking about pocket PC phones. If you don't want one, better get a normal phone.