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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] onlinespending:
scrolling

When I swipe my finger to scroll through the list, it seems to only jump at most 1 page per swipe. It's not smooth like the original Hexagon. Are others experiencing this?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] feyd2blak:
Landscape to Portrait refresh

Hi DuChene

I think you are right, the equivalent of the javascript you wrote is what is missing...I think....

Its weird how my two and three column hack works though. This one I have been using for a while now with no issue. When I try anything smaller than two or three columns it has the ghost images....

Do you happen to know what the phone is doing with the refresh thing, is it java or c or some weird microsoft language???? Or what piece of the windows code is actually doing it and can we hack that????

Cheers, Chris
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DuChene:
I think this is based in XML.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] radospol:
Hi.

This is my work for you WVGA device.

1. unzip..

2. copy all to windows

3. reset

enjoy...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Leont:
Is there any chance to remove "Lock" button on the Left Soft Key？？I would like to lock device autommatically when device is waked up from suspend.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] intimidatorx31:
Just wat i was looking for

this is what ive been lookin for thank you!!!!!!!:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] littld:
Update to the first post. I've added the new one which includes a selection halo round the active icon. Enjoy.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DuChene:
Need help

Can nobody help me?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jminor4326:
another option is to use the original single column list and use re/Start to put everything into folders. The auto scroll still works. Here's the link

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=481379
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DuChene:
I know that, the problem is upper
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] witschey:
QVGA "List Start Menu" - Portrait & Landscape WORKING!

QVGA List Start Menu - Portrait & Landscape WORKING!

I was SO happy when I came across this thread. The List Start Menu improves the functionality of my WM 6.5 system greatly. Prior to finding "List Start Menu" I was using CLauncher (which is a Today Screen - Titanium - plug in with similar functionality. But it used too much memory, it duplicated the functionality of the Start Menu, and it was a nightmare to update, get icons, etc.

HOWEVER, I was very disappointed to read this thread and find out that people had only managed to get multi-column landscape mode to work in BOTH Landscape and Portrait mode. There was a single column version developed by 'littd' in the first post of this thread; but it ONLY worked in portrait mode. I wanted a single column mode that worked in both portrait and landscape, but none was available.

So I researched the issue, and stumbled upon the SAME problem reported earlier. I could NOT identify the source of the problem. To me it sounds like a Microsoft Bug, or a design flaw (perhaps they never imagined that people would want a single column Start Menu).

However I SOLVED the problem by centering the Landscape mode Start Menu. (I tried aligning it to the left, but it delivered the problem).

So here it is, the first QVGA fully working "List Start Menu" that works in BOTH Portrait AND Landscape mode. I am using it on the ATT Till / Kaiser with great success, and I am never going back to the honey comb design.

Portrait and Landscape Screen shots and a cab installation file are below. If the file doesn't install properly from your desktop copy it to your device and run it from there.

The solution below is customized for QVGA (ATT / Tilt). If you use a Windows Mobile Pocket PC with a different resolution you can use the following tool to convert the CPR files to any other resolution with just the lick of a mouse. NO coding is necessary; it is very easy. Please note that you will need to do the process twice. Once for the landscape mode CPR, and once for the portrait mode CPR.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4254186&postcount=1

Enjoy!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] littld:
You'll find a single column in my first post in the thread!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ElCondor:
This is nice, but is there a way to disable the "stops"?

I mean I want it to scroll smoothly. Is that doable?

Thank you for the menu, it works really great!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] witschey:
I edited my post to reflect that you had indeed created a single column version but that it only worked in portrait mode. I wanted one that worked in portrait and landscape, and that is why my post is different from yours.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] witschey:
If what you mean is to have the menu scroll like the iphone (where you move the finger and the thing continues to move until it reaches the end or you stop it), then NO. I don't think such a feature is possible.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] littld:
Well done, it's a great contribution.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ElCondor:
OK. Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] iabaligod:
Here is a VGA single list menu for Portrait and landscape. I just converted it to VGA and it works with my Eten x650.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DuChene:
I try this and don't work!

Is this stable...!

GREAT!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] witschey:
Yes, it is completely stable. I have been using it for days without any problems what-so-ever on WM 6.5 build 23028
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DuChene:
the code.

I will modify my code and see what rappens
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DuChene:
Images...

OK working with only one size image or line, but when images and lines have diferent sizes?

This is my real problem.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] witschey:
That you will have to try on your own. I like to keep it simple, so I don't need different sized images or lines.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cyberhern:
Does drag and drop still work?

I am running 23031 and if i remember correctly when i ran 23028, it also had a drag start menu.

Does drag and drop still work?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] witschey:
I never used drag/drop before; but I just tried it so that I could answer your question and YES it does.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DuChene:
I install that cab, and now I will try using images.

That is good and stable.

Great discovery
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cyberhern:
Yes Yes Yes

I checked the night I posted.

fyi dont think too many of us on xda would

have waited this long for a responce LOL
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mrussi:
works fine with my Wizard! thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DuChene:
BubbleComb

Variation of HoneyComb...

This is my BubbleComb.

Download here in Deposit Files
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rvonder:
I'm really sorry to hear that, because lack of true smooth scrolling is one of the things that always made the honeycomb menu painful to use -- and it's even more irritating with a single-column menu. :(

FWIW, I've been using TouchLaunch to provide a single-column start menu replacement, and it really works great. Has very smooth kinetic scrolling with no page boundaries, plus other features like multiple sub-menus accessible via horizontal swipes. You can also set up an 'excludes' file to remove seldom-used links from the menus (they're still accessible via the original start menu).

One thing I really like is that TouchLaunch can use the current system wallpaper, so it appears to be 100% integrated and doesn't look or feel like a separate add-on app. You can easily assign it to the left soft-button, or just add it to the Titanium CLaunch panel (that's what I did).

The only thing I don't like is that TouchLaunch seems to dynamically recreate its cache of program entries each time it starts. I have a very large list of programs, so this adds a couple-second delay at startup. I sure wish there were a way to tell it to build and save a persistent cache across sessions, with a function to trigger a manual cache rebuild when necessary. But other than that, it's a very nice app. Might be a solution for others of you that dislike the page-at-a-time scrolling behavior of the native WM start menu.

PS - I created a modified TouchLaunch skin for the Omnia that enlarges the fonts, adds color menu titles, etc. so it looks a lot better... if anyone wants a copy, just let me know.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] witschey:
Actually I have change my previous statement. The Single List start menu that I made available in previous posts DOES not stop on a per page basis. It continues to move until you touch it again or until it reaches the end. Furthermore, if you organize your applications with logical folders (for example I have calculator, clocks, communication, connections, games, media, money, navigation, office mobile, utilities) you won't have to scroll though very long lists. The fact that the right margin of the Single List start menu has empty space makes it ideal for starting the menu spin with the finger. The honey comb start list is so full of icons that it is difficult to find a place to start the finger spin without starting an application by mistake.

I haven't tried the application you are suggestion but I will give it a shot just for curiosity purposes; but I don't like duplicating features (they use double space and double RAM).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] drkfngthdragnlrd:
Here's an updated version of my old StartMenu ListView. Finally got rid of the Ghost Image bug I used to have in it back in April. ZIP includes both Page Scrolling & Non-Page Scrolling versions.

QVGA

To turn off the page Scrolling, change the following to "FALSE" in your StartMenu CPR's.

PaginatedScrolling="TRUE"
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] witschey:
Hi. I am impressed that you were able to get rid of the ghost image. Can you tell me how you did it, or do I have to go and look at the code myself. Such great news either way!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] drkfngthdragnlrd:
I am not sure if it's the newer builds or if it's that I have HorizontalWrapAround="FALSE", but it no longer has a Ghost Image. If you have pre UI Changes Build flashed, please check my cab to confirm.

EDIT: If it does work, feel free to edit mine as you like.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] witschey:
Congratulations. I can confirm that the ghost image is gone; so that is absolutely great. I haven't yet figured out what part of the code solves the problem, but it is definitely a breakthrough!

The only problem that I found with your start menu is that on the landscape mode it does NOT show my last two start menu entries. Haven't looked at the code yet, so not sure what is causing that problem.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] drkfngthdragnlrd:
Oh, whoops, change the Height="268" to 188 in Landscape. Missed that...

EDIT: Fixed & replaced the ZIP in the riginal post...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] witschey:
QVGA List Start Menu - Portrait & Landscape - Left Aligned - No Pagination.

QVGA List Start Menu - Portrait & Landscape - Left Aligned - No Pagination.

Based on "drkfngthdragnlrd" breakthrough discovery on how to avoid ghost images in the single line left aligned start menu, I am releasing version 2 of my version of the single list start menu; which I originally released in post 47

I like an operating system that looks simple and elegant, and that is why this single list start menu is very simple. Hope you like it.

Below are screen shots and an installation cab file.

Enjoy!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] witschey:
Once again congratulations on your breakthrough discovery. Based on your discovery I fixed my version of the Single List Start Menu and released version 2.

I am interested in releasing version 3 of my menu using a "StartMenu_List_Active.png" that is identical to the one used on the WM 6.5 Titanium screen.

Since you created quite a sophisticated one for your start menu list, I am wondering if you could point me to the tool you used for its creation; and if you could share some tips on how to put together one that resembles as close as possible the one used in the titanium screen?

Thanks again.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DuChene:
What is wrong?

Why your refresh works and mine none?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] drkfngthdragnlrd:
If I read this right you want to make a start menu that uses the sliding panel image, correct? If so just copy it out of the bronzeres.dll. Save it as StartMenu_List_Active & delete the line of code pointing torwards the inactive image. I didn't use any tool to make mine. I just edited the code manually. You can used

CHome Visual Editor

though. It's a program a dev here at XDA made that lets you edit cpr's similiar to the way web page creator software works.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] drkfngthdragnlrd:
Compare to yours;

<Form Width="240" Height="320">
<StartMenu_GridScene ID="Scene">

<GridView ID="Start Menu Items List" Top="0" Left="0" Width="240" Height="268" Columns="1" Scrollable="TRUE" HexagonGrid="TRUE" HorizontalWrapAround="FALSE" [COLOR="Red"]PaginatedScrolling="FALSE"[/COLOR]>
<Image ID="Selection" Left="0" Top="0" Width="240" Height="45" Source=".\StartMenu_List_Active.png" />
<Layer ID="GridItem" Width="240" Height="45" OnAction ="GridItemAction" >
[COLOR="#ff0000"]<Image ID="Selection1" Left="0" Top="0" Width="240" Height="45" Source=".\StartMenu_List_Inactive.png" />
<Layer ID="Normal" Clip="False" >[/COLOR]
<Image ID="Image" Left="5" Top="5" Width="35" Height="35" ScaleStyle="Fit" />

<Text ID="Text" Left="60" Top="0" Width="175" Height="45" FontFamily="Control Freak" FontSize="14" HorizontalAlignment="Left" VerticalAlignment="Middle" Wrap="False" Trimming="EllipsisCharacter" ForeColor="#00FFFFFF" BackColor="#00000000" />
</Layer>
</Layer>

<Layer ID="NoItems">
<Text ID="Text" Width="240" Height="45" FontFamily="Control Freak" FontSize="14" ForeColor="#00FFFFFF" Wrap="False" HorizontalAlignment="Left" VerticalAlignment="Middle" Trimming="Character" InnerTextType="Resource">shellres.dll,22596</Text>
</Layer>

</GridView>

</StartMenu_GridScene>
</Form>
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DuChene:
Thanx... I will compare.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] witschey:
It didn't occur to me that the Titanium Screen selection image would be in bronzeres.dll. Thanks for the tip!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] littld:
Do please upload this if you can - I think having the slider from bronzeres would be a great enhancement. With permission, I'd add this to post #1.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] drkfngthdragnlrd:
Here you go, enjoy...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] witschey:
Seems that drkfngthdragnlrd beat me to it.

Not sure if they will work as-is since the height of the images used in the Titanium screen is more than what we would normally like to use in the Start Menu. Will try it out, do editing if needed and share the results later on.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] drkfngthdragnlrd:
Just add ScaleStyle="Stretch" to the image tag line. This will automaticaaly scale it to the image size set in the CPR.

Note: the image ma become a bit screwed as the aspect ratio may change, but it's the easiest way.

Another note. Set the image bigger than 45 pixels in height. It has transparency at the top & bottom for the shadow. Also, parent <layer tags need Clip="false" aded for that & top be set to a negative value.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] drkfngthdragnlrd:
Here, try this. Made changes as I note to CPR's & edited the Image.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] littld:
Have you put the changes somewhere? I don't see anything in this post. Sorry if I am being dumb!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] drkfngthdragnlrd:
You don't see the Attachment, "Titanium Start menu.zip"? It includes 2 sets of CPR's, with & w/o paginated scrolling.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] littld:
I swear that attachment wasn't visible when I posted! LOL trying it now.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] witschey:
Single List Start Menu - Titanium Like.

Enclosed is the Single List Start Menu with Titanium Like Selection Image.

Screen shots will be posted soon.

Installation cab file is enclosed below.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] drkfngthdragnlrd:
I honestly don't know why M$ didn't do it that way themselves from the beginning instead of this stupid hexagon garbage. Sure more icons are onscreen, but that zig zag pattern plays with your eyes when searching for an app shortcut in large lists. It's easy to miss one.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] littld:
Right, got it working, thanks. I think the selection needs to be a little larger as on mine it's not covering some of the icons. Height 50 maybe?

I'll look at the cabs as well when they are posted. We're getting closer to an even better life with no honeycomb. Maybe we can call the combined effort "Bee-Free" geddit?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] witschey:
Install the cab file I posted. I think that is just about right.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] drkfngthdragnlrd:
lol or anti-honey lol what ever the case maybe. I set the image to 55 pixels tall. 45 pixel of glass with 4 pixel top shadow & 6 pixel buttom shadow. Did you use my cpr's?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] witschey:
Done. Cab File, Screen Shots, and the like are available on post 88 here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4441362&postcount=88

Feel free to post on post #1.

Since the idea was mine, but I couldn't have done it without the tip of drkfngthdragnlrd, and he solved the ghost when having both portrait and landscape left aligned, make sure that you give credit to both drkfngthdragnlrd and witschey
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] littld:
Boy this thread's busy tonight.

drkfngthdragnlrd, I thought I used the right cprs, maybe not.

witschey, the cab works really well. The ghost effect (an extra, non-moving list of items to the right of the screen) has come back somehow if I switch to landscape and then portrait again.

Any idea how we can fix this?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] drkfngthdragnlrd:
You have my permission as well to put mine in the first post & continue any work you want based off of it. I don't plan to do anymore with it. Got it working the way i like it & the only thing I'll probably do down the road is make Purple Images to match my Purple Theme whn ever I get around to it lol.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] drkfngthdragnlrd:
What build are you using. I'll look at his cpr's, wondering if it's the new builds that fixed the ghost image.

EDIT: I think I now know the problem. Using seperate images for Portrait & Landscape. Use the same image for both maybe.

EDIT1: Attached his landscape CPR edited to use Portrait Image so both use the same image.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] witschey:
Strange. I don't have any ghost images on mine and I have switched back and forth between portrait and landscape several times. I am using WM 6.5 build 23034 as stated in my signature.

Not sure that I can help since I don't see the issue.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] witschey:
Maybe the new builds have something to do with it, but not totally. Before the breakthrough discovery that you posted yesterday I could NOT have both portrait and landscape left aligned. I could have the portrait left aligned and the landscape I had to put left aligned but in the middle of the screen. But your changes fixed it for me; and they ARE incorporated into the cab file.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] drkfngthdragnlrd:
Read my edits above. I realized just now my original used seperate Portrait & Landscape Images as your new one does. My new one uses the same image for both. I attached your landscape cpr edited to use the same image as you portait cpr.

As for your Previouse Landscape left aligned issue, that was probably your Width values. If you don't change 240 to 320 for Landscape, it gets centered.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] littld:
Hi you guys, I've updated post #1, hope you're okay with the changes. If you post a revised cab I'll upload it. Thanks again.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] drkfngthdragnlrd:
Looks good, just you said I created the CAB, that is witschey's. The ZIP is mine.

Edit: My Start menu CAB is in

Post 68

.

Edit1: witschey has another CAb in

Post 73

too btw.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] littld:
All updated now I think. Phew.

Sadly, I still get the ghost image when I flip to portrait and back. I'm on build 21921 but I've not tested this on other builds yet. Thanks again for your contributions.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] drkfngthdragnlrd:
Did you try my edited CPR & soft reset. I think it may be caused by using seperate images for portrait & lanscape. I post a edited cpr from his cab that changes the landscape cpr to use the same image as portrait.

Also, when you tried my cpr's, did you get the ghost image?

EDIT: Want me to CAB up your 2 zips for you from your 1st post?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] littld:
Right, I deleted the old files, soft-reset to test honeycomb style was back, then took the original 240x320 from your zip, then your modified 320x240 and soft-reset. Yes, I still got the ghost, unfortunately.

Thanks for the offer, might be nice but there's a limit as to how many files I can add to the first post. I like the original being there as cpr files as it inspires others to make changes to it.

Thanks again, need sleep now.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] drkfngthdragnlrd:
If you used my Zip cpr's there was no need to use the second edited cpr, that was to replace the one from his CAB, not my original ZIP, but get some sleep. have a good night man.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x51:
I have ghosting in all versions posted here, including drkfngthdragnlrd's release. In drkfngthdragnlrd's release the words do not ghost, but the button images do.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] witschey:
I am using a different image for portrait and landscape modes and I don't get the ghost image on my Kaiser (QVGA). I prefer to have separate landscape and portrait images because that way only the height needs to be shrank (since the length is correct on the original microsoft images)

I guess I must explain. In my previous versions I had no problem aligning the menu items all the way to the left. However if I kept the portrait and landscape start menu cpr files with items aligned all the way to the left I would get the ghost image.

After some playing around I found out that if I put the landscape items aligned to the left, but with a LEFT value of approximately the middle of the screen, the ghost image was no longer visible. That is how I got to release my previous version of the Single List Menu.

The breakthrough that allowed to put the menu items all the way to the left on both portrait and landscape modes was the statement that you added yesterday and which was not part of my prevous builds, namely:

HorizontalWrapAround="FALSE"

In my view THAT statement is the one that solves the ghost image (at least on my system).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] witschey:
Post looks good. My only suggestion is to replace the post 88 images with a version that can be enlarged by clicking. Somehow the ones you posted can not be enlarged and the thumbnails are too small for anybody to really see the style.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] witschey:
If you installed my cab file without making any changes to it, and you get the ghost image then the it has to be the old build of WM 6.5 that you are using.

I am using build 23034 with the cab file that I created and shared through this thread and I have no problems of ghosting what-so-ever.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] drkfngthdragnlrd:
Ah, that sux, back to the drawing board. M$ must have fixed the issue in the newer Builds, well to a point at least.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] witschey:
May I suggest that you try the version that I released on post 47. That version should work on ALL versions of WM 6.5; even the old versions that have ghosting. It uses a totally different trick from the one used in our latest releases of the single list start menu. The drawback is that the landscape start menu will be in the middle of the screen instead of on the left; but it should work. Let me know if it does. Here is the link.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4351597&postcount=47