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[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
Nevermind, if that button is a camera button, then what are the two buttons on the other side?

I thought one button was scroll wheel. and the other side are camera and volume buttons.

Also please tell the people at SE that I'd sacrifice the steel for a good reception. I want a plastic battery cover which probably improves the signal and reception.
[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
I second that. I would totally pay for a 4 inch screen device with an internal keyboard. Now that is a UMPC experience.
[XPERIA X1 General] killerskincanoe:
@nevermind... so the batt is one piece? no cover? so does that mean microSD can't be removed/replaced without turning phone off and removing batt>?
[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
The battery cover is not attached to the actually battery. Two-piece battery.
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
One of the photos clearly shows the cover is NOT a battery.
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
seems I made pictures of the left side, but not the right one.. Will try to fix it tomorrow

killerskincanoe: as said above - battery is one piece, battery cover second piece and phone third piece.
[XPERIA X1 General] killerskincanoe:
dam ya'll. my bad for not fully reviewing the pics..

does the batt in ur prototype model have the same 1500mAh as the current x1 batt?
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
1500 mAh again i assume?
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
:D :D It's amazing, the British English. Just the word "assume" makes me horny :D :D

Yup, BST-41. Same as Xperia. Don't think they'll change this.. But I am not the one who makes decisions. They may change the battery to another type than it's now. Just wait for it, guys. It's like demo videos in SE prototypes - there are always videos of older types, C905 got demo video of K550, if I remember clearly.

Battery may be changed as well, because the prototypes are cheap and have to be cheap. So you can't expect prototype to be the same as the final version. So it's really early to make and judgments (good or bad one).
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
Sweet! Thanks

i never knew the word assume was so British lol!
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
never heard in US english
[XPERIA X1 General] D-SouthWest:
@Nevermind

Thank you for answering all the question:)

I have just one question

Is the screen 3,2 or 3,5 inch?

Peace & good job
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
will take a ruler tomorrow
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Hahahah. Nope, not at all :D. I'm 2 meters tall so my hands are as far from tiny as you can get, but I find the keyboard extremely comfortable to use. Maybe your hands have mutated or something :P.

P.S. (No offence to any small people out there).
[XPERIA X1 General] killerskincanoe:
hopefully they dnt know ur name on the forum's at work...

ur **** just got blown up on engadget

http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/21/xperia-x2-appears-next-to-his-sibling-in-a-charming-family-photo/
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Look what I found:

http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/21/xperia-x2-appears-next-to-his-sibling-in-a-charming-family-photo/

Edit:

Damn it killerskincanoe :(.
[XPERIA X1 General] D-SouthWest:
:cool:Thanks Nevermind
[XPERIA X1 General] D-SouthWest:
:cool: Thanks Nevermind
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Yes, I forgot.

Thanks nevermind :D.
[XPERIA X1 General] adam18488:
Thanks nevermind for the info on the down lo

i think the only reason the x2 doesn't look as nice as the x1 is that the colours on the x2 are sooo depressing! a black keyboard:confused: with orange!!:confused::confused: lol...please ask someone to change the colours on the phone to some more 'happy' colours!

the rachel looks so sexy...like the x1...if the x2 is not sexy it shouldnt be in the

S.E.X

peria brand lol

of course people might not agree, but what do u guys think?

Adam
[XPERIA X1 General] killerskincanoe:
my bad dude. i've been bored all day refreshing the same four pages... i'll play some ps3 now and let you get the jump on the next one...

but just u know this.. i've got my laptop right here next to me while i play ;)
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
i think the x2 is starting to look better, with a bit of change to the colors and materials i think it could look rather nice.

specs are what we need now. i think they (SE) would be real bastards to the wm users (x2) if they keep the same cpu and give the x3 (rachael) a 1ghz snapdragon cpu.
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
I'll make a Firefox script that refreshes Engadget constantly and alerts me when a keyword is posted. :D

(wish I could lol)
[XPERIA X1 General] killerskincanoe:
DUUDE... pm me with the .exe if you figure it out lol
[XPERIA X1 General] Gilg@mesh:
plz tell us if it's the same crappy CPU or will it have a better one?
[XPERIA X1 General] ratchetnclank:
As said before it's a prototype. Specs can and probably will change.

I'm torn between this and the rachael. If that had a hardware keyboard i'd be all over it.
[XPERIA X1 General] chicus_bar:
here, first pics of the X6!!!

http://www.km104.cn/article/UploadPic/2009-1/20091621325847.jpg

LOL!! chinese design... but the pro-camera and the gamepad (specially on a 1GHz runner) is something i would really like to see on a X...
[XPERIA X1 General] spikegotti:
i think the x2 is starting to look better, with a bit of change to the colors and materials i think it could look rather nice.

..............................................

lol dude, there is absolutely nothing different in appearance to the first leaked photo and the ones uploaded by nevermind...i hope they do change the materials and colors too, but first the design n shape
[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
I'm not impressed. Who's with me?
[XPERIA X1 General] fatso485:
thanks nevermind for your great work

questions

- how well does the phone performs currently with its 528mhz cpu compared to the current 400mhz x1 poor performance? realistically, do you think they will upgrade it to a snapdragon that would require a major redesign i assume.

2-does the camera take a long time to start and take a pic. on x1 it takes about 6 secons and thats on a fast cooked rom. also does the picture quality compare with c905 8MP camera.

3-why did they bother with changing the miniUSB to microusb. seems like a step in the wrong direction.

4- do you expect the screen to go bigger than 3.2 in the final version

5- did you test the TV-out. and what type of cable is it?
[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
Some one re-upload videos please.
[XPERIA X1 General] killerskincanoe:
id like to thank you nevermind for putting up with all these nagging questions...

it's been a very informitive week thanks to you!

and poetryrocksalot.. I'M IMPRESSED! and i'm not with you!
[XPERIA X1 General] corleno:
what strikes me is that this "android" device has a "windows" key on its physical keyboard
[XPERIA X1 General] gundamboy:
coroleno, that's the Xperia X2 "Vulcan" on the left, not the X3 "Rachael".

the X2 is windows mobile based, the X3 is Android.
[XPERIA X1 General] killerskincanoe:
yea wrong device lol... check over at the http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=539165 Rachael thread... that'd be the android device you're looking for..

the picture you have mentioned there is one of the XPERIA X2 VULCAN.. succesor to the X1 and def WINMO!
[XPERIA X1 General] corleno:
oh thanks for correcting me guys.

oh wow the android one looks way better
[XPERIA X1 General] gundamboy:
it may look better, but I require a physical keyboard to type fast ._.
[XPERIA X1 General] informatico:
Hey guys i made a pixel count with "Paint" of both screens

Xperia X1 189x116 pixels

Xperia X2 226x124 pixels

now after the math calculations i got for X2 3.499 inch screen ;)

i hope im right i dont want it to be 3.2"
[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
Ok, I checked my pixel counts are not the same as yours... ALSO, in most of the pictures the screen can not be measured by rectangular pixels. It is actually uneven in shape. The reason for this is because you are viewing the device at an angle. Therefore the screen will never be rectangle.

Ask Nevermind... I gaurantee you that the screen for this prototype is 3.15 or 3.2 inches diagonally long.

I have no idea what the heck you are doing, but you're doing it all wrong.

Actually, measuring by hand and ruler is more accurate. The truth of the matter is the screen is 3.2 inches.

I can back this up further, I realigned the screen at similar angles. A little image manipulation and image flipping was involved BUT it was necessary. I did this correctly btw. My conclusions are that the screen is actually 3.2 inches.
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Me!!! I'm going to laugh when people buy this. X1 ftw!
[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
or maybe X4.
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
2011? :(:(:(
[XPERIA X1 General] sudsnz:
I wonder if the X2 has the four illuminating lights on each corner as per the X1??
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
X2=82milimeters screen. bit busy right now, pics later today
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
So 3.2 inch.

Stil great for me. X2 great
[XPERIA X1 General] F-Styla:
Yeah I agree.

The contrast between the keyboard and the phone was what i liked about the X1.

@nevermind

Can you turn on the phone? Like showing us the new panels etc?
[XPERIA X1 General] markoc84:
Thanks again nevermind, these pics just keep getting better,

Whats the phone weight like compared to the X1? TBH, i would rather have some decent plastic finish rather than metal that looses its paint rather quickly, but thats just my personal opinion,

I think that the screen looks like its a decent size as i think that having something too big in you pocket can get annoying, and thats where my phone is 90% of the time,

The keyboard looks great, similar to the TP2 which is very nice to use, but i do agree that the colours could do with a bit of a jazz up by the final product, will there be 2 different colours in general like the X1, just added a bit more fun to the phone,

The side shots of the phone look great, really like the subtle curves it has going on, looks like it is ment to sit in your hand nicely,
[XPERIA X1 General] sudsnz:
Is that a LED sript at the bottom under the optical D-pad?
[XPERIA X1 General] manishbully:
I am Started Loving this X2 .... Simply coz i m a big fan of X1, and i think of X2 as an upgrade to whatever downfalls of X1 had.

Hope that this one will turn out to be a REAL CONVERGANCE Device as Xperia Brand was claimed of.
[XPERIA X1 General] madindehead:
Nice set of pics nevermind ^^

What does the quality of the X2 feel like compared to the X1? Hope we get some photos of it in action soon, would like to see the UI etc =)
[XPERIA X1 General] informatico:
Thanx nevermind and please let us know mooore :) some spicy specifics maybe ;)
[XPERIA X1 General] tmz1990:
wow nice! thx!

@nevermind: screen resolution is 800x480? (the same as X1)
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
@nevermind

Thanks again. Is the DPad also physically pressed, or it's just optical?

I admire X1 solution.
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
doministry: it's optical in 4 directions (up/down/left/right) and you can press it. Unfortunately I'm missing hardware up/down/left/right buttons... I don't like the "only finger touch" style..

tmz1990: sorry, can't tell.. explained before
[XPERIA X1 General] ccsnet:
Nevermind.... I dont spose you know when the X3 may surface ?

http://www.t3.com/news/sony-ericsson-rachael-leaks-online-as-xperia-x3?=39769

Terran
[XPERIA X1 General] markoc84:
I agree with you there, i only really use the D-Pad buttons over the optical joystick, especially when just navigating between things that are close together, but i do have to say, having both is perfect, as when navigating through things like contacts and e-mails i tend to use the optical as can scan through things so quickly, will miss one if it is missing,
[XPERIA X1 General] safdl:
Reasons why the X3 looks better than X2

Android is a new market, i bet you any money it costs a lost less to licence a phone for android than it does for windows...

All the networks are bringing in android and guess what....it beats symbian hands down. With a bit more tweaking it will compete with windows soon too. but maybe not just yet...

A typical life of a handset is 18 months for now....most cellular contracts are 18-24 months for top end handsets.

Obviously the networks feel that for now at least ANDROID is the way to go. Not Winmo....remind me when WM7 was due...WM6.5....?? was it on time? Does WM ever work out of the box??

Bottom line is CREDIT TO XDA FORUMS - They have singled handedly kept WM alive!! without these technological geniuses winmo is about as useful as a chocolate fireguard.

SE must expect BIG things to come from google hence they have equiped their handset with big things (CPU etc)

Google is also going to compete with MS for OS, and i bet they will give it a good shot. Everything google do, they seem to do better than MS. For now anyway.

X2 will be the phone for people who like winmo, but SE as well as other manufacturers see ANDROID as the future, OR Google are offering a TOP incentive to plug ANDROID....for now at least anyway.
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
Sorry, cannot in this case I cannot give you any informations or even pictures. X2 is "more official" than X3 or others.. So sorry
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
Aha.... So we have an important lack here....

Well optical down/up/left/right sucks compared to physical.

****. Especially when with physical button you can just

KEEP it to scroll to the end.

With optical you HAVE to keep scrolling like an idiot.

Why there's always have to be a problem?

Why they make it always more trouble at some point?

HTC was stupid enough to get rid of ALL the helpful controls,

yet added hilarious zoom ctrl....

Happy X2 still has some necessary controls.
[XPERIA X1 General] manishbully:
Thank you nevermind for all the infos and pics you are giving to us.

Some prons over X1:

1. Cntrl key included

2. bigger screen 3.2 inch

3. better keyboard for sure

4. 8.1 camera (hopping for true VGA@30fps video capture), or may be HD capturing capabilities.

5. seems less thicker in pics, hope so.

6. 4 way navigation keys added in keyboard.

7. New battery cover desing with some button lock machenism, coz X1 cover comes up more frequently for bad locking.

8. flush screen .. so pressing icons in corner of the screen will not be difficult, plus slide bar will be accessible,

9. seems like sporting duel speakers.. that would be great as X1's in speaker sound is not that great.

Some Cons over X1:

1. D-pad doesn't seems like having navigational capabilities, may support tuchpad though.

2. overall design of X1 is better then this one, X1 had more sexy Looks.

3. 2 soft keys on front (left and right) are missing here ... Y???? please add them, they are more usefull then any.

Changes that i doesn't know if its good or bad:

1. USB port is changed .. no more mini usb.

Now some questions that you humbly may or may not like to Answer at this time considering its a prototype.

1. Hows the keyboard's feedback when you press, coz thats the one of the biggest complaints that X1 users has (including me)

2. what is that thing/button in the side, above Volume up-down key, just near to camera ??? what function does it perform???

3. why SE is not upgrading the processor, from a leaked video its clear that prototype has same 528Mhz Speed, 256MB RAM and 512MB Flash memory. Do you think they might upgrade it ... coz its the same as X1.

Will add more when recall... Thanks for everything man.
[XPERIA X1 General] Mikulec:
No specs about procesor, I wonder if they will use tegra, would be great.
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
manishbully:

keyboard feedback - X1 had really small feedback.. It was like ticking on your old cellphone. X2 has keyboard feedback very similar to laptops. Similar to MSI Wind or Macbook air (bigger "lift"?). If you're not sure if you pressed a button on X1, with X2 it's a piece of cake. Really wonderful, I love this keyboard.

Second, the upper keyboard row in X2 (windows button, qwertyuiop) was too close to the display, for me hard to press the upper row. X2 has more space so even normal people like me can write really easily.

The "button" on the side, above volume is NOT a button. It's stylus actualy!!

Mikulec: well sorry, can't tell you that. I'd like to post a screenshot of RAM, ROM, CPU, etc.. But I cannot do that...
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
@ manishbully

Ehhm.. They keys are there, are you blind?

I suppose it's not just a design element there.

As for USB - so what do we have there??
[XPERIA X1 General] F-Styla:
@nevermind

Thank you!

Looks great!
[XPERIA X1 General] D-SouthWest:
Thanks Nevermind for everything

The pictures looks great

your information helped a lot

Big ups:D
[XPERIA X1 General] manishbully:
lol .. sorry .. forgot about stylus. hahaha

I am talking about these softkeys
[XPERIA X1 General] Mikulec:
No problem :) , in this case we (or I) can still hope that they have decided for tegra.
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
manishbully:

dude, the keys you are mentioning, that is X1!
[XPERIA X1 General] manishbully:
thats the point nevermind, the softkeys that i m mentioning are on X1 .. but are missing from X2. .. and i see that as downgrade, coz i thing these two keys are very helpful, specially in java based programs. coz there are still lots of java programs that doesn't support touch screen input. :(
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
What about this??
[XPERIA X1 General] manishbully:
oh .. ok .. is these keys. . i thought something else. . that measn the soft keys are still there .. thats great.

thanks doministry for clearing.
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
doministry: oh I got the point :D yeah, that's softkey, similar to X1. But hard to press. Hope they will make it bigger.
[XPERIA X1 General] xdadJeroen:
you're the smartphone santa.. thanks so much
[XPERIA X1 General] sudsnz:
Hi nevermind, does the X2 have the four illuminating LEDs as in the X1?

Thanks in advance
[XPERIA X1 General] oTToToTenTanz:
Nevermind, how come you got the prototype?

Are you friends with some SE developers?

If you mentioned it already, I'm sorry. Read this thread only from page ~20 because then it started to get interesting!

Thanks for the information anyway dude!
[XPERIA X1 General] Persuader X:
Thanks a lot Nevermind for all this information. My X1 is only six months old and I'm happy with it, but I think I know who will substitute him. Best regards do all.
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
Aha no problem! :D
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
oTToToTenTanz: Said that before, yeah. I'm SE actualy
[XPERIA X1 General] Jasand:
would also like to know this :confused:
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
Whipee! Nice!
[XPERIA X1 General] shadym1lkman:
some of you listing out a ton of questions should really either search before you ask, or re-read the thread. its getting redundant in here. thanks for the mornin update nevermind!
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
LOL so true.

Thirded.
[XPERIA X1 General] fatso485:
considering that this site wont be supporting the X2 since its not made by HTChttp://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=502205

you have been really really nice to all of us nevemind. thanks

question: are you allowed to talk about performance at this stage. i am suffering from serious performance issues on the x1

also does the tv-out work on this early hardware?
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
fatso485: performance - as I said before, this is testing version a prototype. The OS lags as hell right now, so that's all I can say. Also any hardware specs here, until official.

Didn't have chance to try TV out - don't have cable for that...

Actualy, apart from this topic - this is xda-developers. Wonder why they won't support other devices than HTC. Can't understand that very well...
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
nevermind are there LEDs on the X2?
[XPERIA X1 General] gundamboy:
Perhaps they'll make an exception for the Xperia Line..

Great phones that would need the XDA support that we're currently getting for the X1 =/.

nevermind, thanks for all the information, the codename "Vulcan" is really cool too since I just watched Star Trek 2 months ago :D.
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
if there are, they don't work. So can't tell, as it's not visible - same as Xperia's one.

edit: see #332

It has leds as you can see. Although I cannot see them working.. But nevermind right now
[XPERIA X1 General] fatso485:
the mods in the above linked topic say its because of limited available resourses to run a bigger site. it might be a good idea to give them a peice of your mind there

thanks for your answer

1 more question: are we (x1 users) gonna get r4a roms or is the r3a is the end of the line for us
[XPERIA X1 General] oTToToTenTanz:
This is a really good question. As far as I know there was no official release with things like xtract or new panel manager as well as growing panel in it.

I would love to see that! That would make me flash my mobile finally!
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
removedremovedremovedremovedremovedremoved
[XPERIA X1 General] sakshaug007:
Hi Nevermind, do you happen to know if there will be an official release of WM 6.5 for the X1? i.e. not an XDA rom build version.
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
This is what I don't know
[XPERIA X1 General] Gilg@mesh:
can u plz tell us if the CPU is better or the same, u don't have to tell what kind of CPU just if it's better or the same... :) thanks
[XPERIA X1 General] manishbully:
wooww .. thanks nevermind for the 3 videos .. there is a new panel in 3rd video.... thats seems great.
[XPERIA X1 General] manishbully:
According to this leaked video .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7m1c7AGwn4

the CPU, RAM and flash memory are same in both X1 and X2.
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
OMFG WHAT IS GOING ON WITH PEOPLE. CAN'T YOU READ?

That question has been asked 1 trillion time in this thread alone. Don't be lazy and scroll back.

Also, it is a PROTOTYPE. The specs may change any minute. Learnt o think. :mad::mad::mad:
[XPERIA X1 General] manishbully:
from the Video that nevermind posted ... these are the features that X2 will supposed to have:

1. Accelerometer

2. Illuminations

3. Proximity and Light Sensor

4 .RTC ????\

5. TV Out

6. Wifi

Thanks nevermind for the videos and infos. I hope same panels will be available for X1 too.
[XPERIA X1 General] shadym1lkman:
RTC .. real time compass?
[XPERIA X1 General] manishbully:
don't know what does RTC stands for.. it was in the list.
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
RTC - Real Time Clock?
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
yh i know but seeing them side by side in the pic below, it looks quite good
[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
I've been facepalming manishbully the entire time.
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
Well actualy I'm making my own statistics and counting all the ladies here, who ask me "what is the CPU" and also "is the system faster?". Also percentage of those questions and my answers - it's a prototype.

I wonder one thing - those people visit this topic.. And what they do? Scroll to the last page, although they know there are pictures? C'mon..
[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
Nevermind, I hate these kind of people as well.
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
Yeah I know the picture, and not found on my prototype. However I don't think there'll be jog dial..

Or am I missing something, LOL? :) I've read at least all pages of this endless thread
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Scrolling to hit the "post" button without reading the thread ftw? Yes, I think so.
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
I have a theory. If button "post reply" was really tiny, and "Launch nuclear missile and destroy everything" was big huge red with sexy girls around, people will hit it. Reminds me "Monsters vs Aliens" cartoon, where the president hits the huge button.. Just because it's big LOL
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Everyone use this:
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
let's count the views LOL :D
[XPERIA X1 General] D-SouthWest:
Nevermind

How is the media panel?

Do you know if they will add or already added a equalizer?

Peace and gracias