yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] [deXter]:
It's a brand new 1GB card, formatted as FAT32, 512kb block size. The WM OS is reading it properly.

I'll try and flash a shipped radio one of these days. Thanks for your input.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ultramag69:
Disregard...
[Touch HD General] DRTigerlilly:
I was most displeased to realize that this aging pocket pc that came out in 2003 with less specs than the HD can run circles around it in terms of speed.

Opening anything on the device is instant...the windows folder is click & your in whereas on the hd it can take 20+ seconds to open.

Anyway you slice it something is really wrong with that, that a machine with a slower processor, less ram/rom can do that.

Shame on Microsoft, and shame on HTC.
[Touch HD General] PJMDS:
The HD windows folder doesn't take 20+ seconds to open, at most it takes 2 seconds, if yours does take that time something is wrong, maybe to much open programs, also the windows folder of the HD got many more files than the hp 2200, also the display of the HD is larger so more things for the cpu to process, etc.

Shame on you for trying to put the HD under the hp 2200, the HD is much better in all aspects.
[Touch HD General] homer285:
Sounds like you found your dream device :D

Seriously I never experience anything like that, maybe you should hardreset and install apps one by one (experimenting between installs) to try and nut out the conflicting software.

fyi, my HD Windows folder opens instantly with File Explorer, Resco and Total Commander, perhaps your HD has a beta ROM or bloated with many cracked apps.

What ever the reason for your ridiculous post and as a long time WM user I can assure you that the solution to your problem will not be solved by moaning or making false allegations
[Touch HD General] Melty:
Gosh, you seem to have got rather an aggressive response.

Guys, I think that DRTigerLilly was just trying to point out that in some respects things seem to have gone slightly backwards, in that machines are now taking longer to perform what, to the user, appear to be similar functions. Obviously we all understand that there's a lot more going on under the hood as it were, but one of the primary drivers should be usability and it sometimes seems that the manufacturers forget this - has anybody used an XDA Exec?! I have one and it is very slow!

At least that's what I think he/she meant. Maybe it was just a general rant! ;)

The real problem is that now we are all carrying powerful computers around in our pockets, we want them to perform more and more complex computing tasks.
[Touch HD General] homer285:
gosh I couldnt agree more, what is becoming of the world these days :eek:
[Touch HD General] Melty:
Lol! Fair point! :D
[Touch HD General] DRTigerlilly:
i definitely feel the OS has taken a step back, and the majority of the blame lies with Microsoft....this is what happens when you add new code, on top of old cold, you get a bogged down OS.

From the perspective of the devices, they tend to be only incremental changes, and often good features are taken out in successive devices...*cough* flash *cough*

I don't want the ipaq its only a pda, but performance wise it is a disappointment.

My HD is running Dutty's v 3.7 which i find to be a very responsive rom overall...but comparing it to the much older device was kind of :confused: why there seemed to be that kind of discrepancy between the devices.

and it does take 20 seconds open the windows folder with nothing else open.
[Touch HD General] PJMDS:
Mine does it almost instantly with oficial ROM 1.19, using the windows mobile explorer and resco explorer almost same time, something must be wrong with yours.

Now about the performance, please try to play this game

http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-xtrakt.html

on the HD and on the hp 2200 :p
[Touch HD General] D'rath:
Ok, but WM2003 uses memory in different way (RAM like ROM) and no Radios (only BT): file system speed higher and less services to charge in RAM.

D'rath
[Touch HD General] brusko1972:
My windows folder opens in about 4 seconds using the file explorer.

I have the 1.56 rom
[Touch HD General] MAMeingast:
Pretty much the same here... 2-3 seconds tops!
[Touch HD General] Aaronc1978:
What an odd thread. The title of the thread is clearly untrue, comparing the time it takes two different devices to open different sized files that happen to have the same name is just wrong. You have to try to open the same file (windows files from the same version) or the same software to make such a claim, otherwise it is completely misleading.

My windows file also takes only a few seconds to open on the HD no matter which ROM (stock or cooked).
[Touch HD General] DRTigerlilly:
hard reset the phone, and its still not 20 seconds, down to about 4 but its still instant opening the windows directory on the ipaq and its still not instant on the HD.

The reality of it though, is that i use my HD to keep my medical books, and i'm not using it in stock state...or with nothing installed, and with my books and apps installed...20 seconds is how long it takes to open the windows directory.

Same apps/books installed on the ipaq...and navigating the OS, still feels instant.

Its a disappointment...
[Touch HD General] Ivo NL:
There is a lot more to load in windows folder of HD than your ipaq. All the touchflo files are also in the windows folder, which do cost a few more time to load than the original windows shell.
[Touch HD General] crajee:
Try copying all the manila files to a folder on desktop and see if it instantly opens on a PC with PIV with a gig of RAM in list view ;) :cool: So HD nowhere to be blamed on this IMHO.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pandae8686:
hi...

i dont know where to start ...

At present i have htc touch diamond phone....i wanna connect internet to my mobile using wifi router which i have at home....

can u pls tell me the setting which i require to do in my mobile???
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] saopacic:
switch the wifi on in settings and add your router configuration. If your SSID is broadcasted it will show up as 'new networks'. Configure it accordingly and off you go
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orbitalen:
Now that the acer is out, in pocketnow are trying to compare it to the TP2...

U people are serious? Acer M900, the same device that has 128MB RAM and 256MB ROM? Lol, people were screaming the TP2 doesn't have enough memory and so... :) Did u check the pocketnow software tour? This device works like a 1 year old phone... The acer shell is kind of a BAD copy of TF3d, a poor imitation or something... The display isn't nearly as sensitive as the TP2's is.. The device feels cheep. I can calmly say it's about a million years away from TP2... I'm not saying the TP2 is the device of the future (since I was having bigger expectations from the hardware upgrade part), but it's the best WM device there is up to now... And I believe that comparing it to the Acer M900 is... nonsense... And my big surprise came from the price - just 80 bucks in favor of the M900? Why spare that money when all u get is a BIG compromise?

Sorry guys, had to say my opinion... I was feeling pretty frustrated by the device and the comparison with the TP2...

P.S. Wasn't the M900 suppose to be the acer's phone with a Snapdragon? Or was it some other Acer's phone?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] monx®:
Acer smartphone is nice & their price also reasonable. i've tried acer dx9650 (two-faced). the hardware is nice. gps is SiRFstar III® & i can feel the samsung processor is faster (remember hermes?) | graphic also good. The problem is they still new & doesnt hv better user friendly features yet. So we can skip M900 at this moment and proceed with TP2. Snapdragon based is a must for next device :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fortunz:
I'd love to have the biosensor/dpad/mouse on the TP2. It's a neat trick.

I'm hopeful that the zoom bar can be easily retasked for navigation.

It's a compliment. TP2 is the new measuring stick. At least for now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] monx®:
I'd love to have "Trackball with Enter button" (small & very useful) at center, below zoombar & at least 2 flat hardware button at earpiece side. it will be a perfect machine for gaming :cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] doctajay:
I just bought it because the TP2 isn't coming out until november in the states and I want something to play with, that has a huge screen, that isn't the iPhone until then. Other users have said that you don't run into memory problems when you disable Acer's desktop UI and install your apps to your microsd card. What also drew me to the phone was the flash, the front facing camera, and the 5 MP back camera...features that HTC easily could have included (in the u.s. version) but won't. Anyways, I'm going to see how much I enjoy the phone. The next phone I want should have a tegra or snapdragon processor anyway, and we know that won't come out until late next year in the U.S.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Blowfish64:
I don't understand why people always talk about software when deciding between phones. That's the good thing about WM, you can rip UI's off just about any of them. Besides, TF3D is way overrated anyway.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Alcibiade:
Disagree, even Manila 2D is already really good and convenient

Anyway same for me, just ordered a TP2 to be able to wait with no stress for the tegra phones (I have an Hermes right now)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ed_bracam:
Hey, during pocketnow software review, they said have 20mb free with the acer interface on the M900 :eek: it's less than on my Kaiser with WM6.5 and M2D...

I used M2D on my Kaiser since 2 weeks, I can understand that HTC removed DPAD on TP2 with TF3D, now, I use rarely the stylus and DPAD...

Waiting french TP2...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orbitalen:
The first person who understands what I meant... :D I just don't get it, why bother making a shell that takes about 85% of the RAM and in order for the device to function properly, u have to turn that and that and that off and then the phone MIGHT work faster... Well, if I wanted to buy a phone and use it's basic WM functions and design, why shouldn't I buy a TyTNII, for example, which would work even faster that the acer? If the screen is the problem, then buy a PSP and u'll have even bigger screen...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] anosis:
Here is the deal for us North American users. The TP2 does not come with a 3G compatible band and if you use internet or email with a PDA data plan on regular GPS signals you might as well use dial up again. I would have jumped on the Samsung Omnia, HTC Touch HD or now even on the TP2 (doctajay are you sure it will be 3G compatible, because all the specs I have seen so far indicate otherwise) if it wasn't for the fact that our providers use the 850Mhz band and none of the listed devices operate on this band.

I purchaed an Eten M800 a year ago and was very disappointed in just about any detail of the phone. It felt cheap, the rear cover paint came of within the first couple of hours of use, the software was buggy and on top of it all it only came with 64Mb ram. I was not even able to install TomTom 7 and had to revert back to an older version. The GPS on the other hand was top notch, with quick fixes and dead on accurate. My current HTC Fuze is laggy and it can take 8min+ to get a fix.

Well, my M900 should be here by Wednesday and I would not mind sharing my opinion about the device. For now I will hold on to my Fuze just as I did with my Kaiser when I got the M800, because after two days of use on the M800 I was more than happy to go back to my Kaiser.

Cheers.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] anosis:
Well, you also need to take that quick review from PocketNow with a little grain of salt. The comparison was made on the fly and as the moderator was explaining that the menu's are not flickable he discovered they where. Also when he showed the software review he indicated that the flick settings are adjustable but he actually never adjusted them. So quoting a Youtube review of someoen that maybe only spend a couple of hours with the phone without confirming what settings may need to be adjusted, I think it would be best until the official review comes out.

Also when the same moderator did the un-packaging he was very pleased with the keyboard layout. Later in the second review he negativaly commented about the fact that the Fn key was needed to be pressed to get the Perid.

Again, as long as these reviews are based on first impressions only, I would not take them 100% serious.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] doctajay:
On the unboxing video from pocketnow.com, the back of the box indicated that it supports HSPDA 850/1900/2100, so we are set in terms of 3G. To be honest the last eten phone I had was crap, but I'm willing to take a chance especially since the specs beat the TP2 in many aspects (i'm especially feeling the front facing camera and the 5 mp camera in the back and the LED flash). For us AT&T users, the TP2 doesn't come out until Nov., and I'm willing to give this phone a shot until then. Who knows, I may just keep it until a Tegra or Snapdragon phone comes to the US.But overall, i think that once we figure out how to completely strip the ROM and install WM 6.5 (which I'm working on), then the phone will be alot more zippy.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Blowfish64:
Don't know about you but I had the TytnII and now the Acer M900, and you have no idea what you're saying if you think the TytnII is faster. Plus the screen is so damn 2005. No way I'd go back to a 2.8" screen. And the PSP doesn't do WM. What in god's name are you talking about?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] anosis:
I specifically asked the US retailer before I ordered the phone that it supports the ATT 850 band. Most likely I will do the same as you and try this phone out until something more solid hits the US. Anyhow, you indicated that you would work on a Rom. My programming skills are rather primitive, but I would be willing to help out if I can.

Is it for example possible to disassemble the latest rom that Acer posts on their website to figure out how to start cooking new roms or as you mentioned to upgrade to 6.5?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] qazzi76:
I love it when a plan comes together!

Anosis is asking the RIGHT questions.

Been dying to see how 6.5 operates on the M900.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] anosis:
I am hoping that one of the big PDA forum supporters will start to create a specific M900 section. The following post is from the actual ETEN support forum from EU. This particular post gives the first clues on how to cook roms for the ETEN/Acer. Hope this will inspire some of the more advanced users to cook up roms for the M900.....

POST COPIED FORM ETEN USER FORUM...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] doctajay:
Thanks for the post anonsis. Right now, the only dedicated forum for the Acer m900 is at 4winmobile: http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/e-ten-acer-support/

I've already dumped the newest ROM that Acer has on their website via the instructions that are listed above. I'm still a novice but the process was pretty simple. At the 4winmobile site, you can see where I extracted all the cabs that come with the ROM and posted them for people to download. Also, on the 4winmobile site another user has already dumped the ROM, stripped it of that stupid Acer Shell and rebuilt it, making it much more lite; you can find his post here: http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/e-...ted-cabs-latest-acer-m900-rom.html#post226423

Also, I've been talking with serious cookers for other Eten phones on the eten-users forum, and they have laid out step by step how we can make a WM 6.5 kitchen for the Acer m900. You can see those instructions here: http://eten-users.eu/index.php?showtopic=16366&view=findpost&p=117624

So getting WM 6.5 on our Acer m900 may not be as hard as it seems. I'm no where close to even being a serious cooker, but I'm still going to try to follow the directions above. Honestly, this can be an amazing phone if we just put some work into it, and I really hope that some serious cookers come our way.

But yeah, for now, 4winmobile is the only site that has given us any type of sub-forum.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] anosis:
Thanks man!!

I have followed the same steps and now have the extROM folder with all the caps. Since I have an old M800 laying around and my M900 is still in the mail, I started checking some of the cabs out. Rather mess around with the M800 then my current Fuze :-).

Next I would like to try to thin the rom down just like the post you mentioned, so I can get a feal of what it takes to do all this.

BTW, could you comment on the reception of the phone and also the brightness of the screen. I know that is all subjective to the viewer, but comparing it to the Fuze would help since we both have one.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fortunz:
Actually it was just the first person who you understood what they meant ;)

The nice thing about worldwide forums is you get to discover that your mobile needs are not the exact same as everyone else's mobile needs. That particular life lesson can extend into other areas if you let it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] doctajay:
My m900 should be arriving on Tuesday or Wednesday so I am waiting just like you. We started a WM 6.5 thread at 4winmobile so anyone who wants to try and help us port it is welcome.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] baskorov:
Touch Pro 2 vs M900 vs Nokia N97 vs XPeria 2 and Omnia Pro and many more :cool: The Harder competiton is good for consumer to get the best product, just wait and be patient man, you will get a good price for the best one.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orb3000:
Touch Pro 2!!

Having a Touch Pro 2 of course have competition but none of the "Other devices" will never have the support and knowledge of this great forum!!:cool:

Just because of that as a great value added to a device I´ll stick to them!!

And stay tuned for the Dec 09 new models!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Blowfish64:
It's sad that the elitism of the forum administrators keeps this great resource restricted to HTC devices, thus artificially improving one brand compared to others. I've never understood why the admins are so arrogant about that.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orb3000:
Perhaps if you jump into first 2 sections of the forum and have a deep read you´ll understand that is nothing to do with elitism the decision of keeping the site with HTC device only.

I´m sure you´ll understand after doing that:cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] quarintus:
The xperia is added atm. And there are some PALM phones.

I don't know what would happen if we they just added all the phones to this forum. Would the quality of the forum be still the same? Hard to guess. I think that might be one reason. Also I guess this forum limits itself pretty much to windowsmobile. There aren't many non htc phones that have that. I guess htc buyers are a specific group of buyers/users. They seem to have more knowledge about the phones (overall) comparing to the Omnia for example. Not saying if you have an Omnia, you don't know anything, But my experience is, that people who have an HTC do have some knowledge about smartphones/pocket pc's
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] whatledog:
I have an omnia because I got tired of the li'l bitty TP screen, and I'm on this forum trying to decide what KB device to get next. You need to take a deep read on the modaco omnia forum to find out how much we don't know. There are very knowledgeable people on the forum, and then, as you know, there are noobs, just like this forum. But I haven't had the original ROM on my phone for a long time. In fact , I'm using 6.5 just like most of you people. WM people need to stick together, even if there is a different forum for other devices. Different devices for different needs, not knowledge, or lack of it.:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] quarintus:
I guess I have to take some of my words back. That doesn't mean there isn't any diffrence between HTC users and omnia users. But still I haven't said it would be a bad thing (nor did I say it would be a good thing) , I just said I could understand :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] radiowc:
Go for Touch Pro 2, that is why we are all here :> and like the experts said, we have their support :>

Go TP2!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] doctajay:
We should have a wm 6.5 kitchen for our m900 within a day or so.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] doctajay:
Check out the WM 6.5 kitchen: http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/e-...-m900-wm-6-5-project-progress.html#post226703
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Blowfish64:
Of course I've read that. It remains a very poor, arbitrary, and illogical explanation to remain restrictive simply on brand name alone. In short, elitism at its worst.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] vasra:
That may be so.

But nobody is denying you the right to start your own forum, on your own time, using your own money - for whatever brand phones you like.

Really, it's hard to complain about free, isn't it? Think about it for a second.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fortunz:
Even if it weren't hard to complain about free, going about calling the creators elitists and arrogant is perhaps the WORST possible tactic to persuade them to alter their plan for the site.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Blowfish64:
No, actually it's very easy. See, I already did it. And creating a new forum wouldn't do any good. The great thing about this one is the level of expertise of many of its members. Many of whom have stated that they only keep buying HTC because of this forum, not because of the quality of the phones. That's a problem as far as I can see.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Blowfish64:
They've already stated in no uncertain terms what their position is. Nothing I say would change that. I'm simply calling a spade a spade.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] vasra:
I agree. If I were a moderator, somebody would have been banned already, LOL.

The gratitude of some people : *****-*****-whine-whine-gimme-everything-or-I-cry :)

There is something to be said of constructive criticism, but the *****ing from above surely ain't such.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Blowfish64:
Meh, sounds like you're the one *****ing now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] AntonyL:
A suggestion

I have just ordered an m900 instead of the TP2 and I am very sad that the the support from Xda is limited for it. I can however understand that too many devices would be too wide a spread and respect the Administrators for their decision.

Maybe, xda could create a subforum for hacks and applications which their creators think are generic and probably would work on other devices as well as HTC ones. This would please a lot of people and act as a repository for those of us who love xda but can't love HTC quite as much;)

Antony
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] arliss:
If some of you guys buying a M900 write user experience reviews that would be just GREAT.

It is very hard to find good reviews on the net.

And I dont trust them completely.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fortunz:
A lot of reviews suck because they don't end up telling you anything useful that you couldn't find on a spec sheet.

However Pocketnow was pretty thorough with the m900, and their reviews are very user oriented. Google that one.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jdcoke:
well i ve seen a lot of reviews on m900. all i can say is that the rom and ram was way too small. but the samsung 533 mhz processor does 30% better at multitasking & video playback than the touch hd processor. also the GPS chip was very good...~