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[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
could be handy to have one of them on my keyring so if i take pics and stuff on my proper camera i can send them in emails/put them on facebook etc on the move. although it would only really be for pics and the x2 has got a 8.1 mp camera whats more mp than my digital camera. still a good idea if i keep my x1.
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Yeah, but there is a problem. Neither the X1, nor the X2 have that ability :(.
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
u give the kids the sweets just to take it back off them and see the sad look on there faces :(

your a cruel man orelsi lol
[XPERIA X1 General] gundamboy:
a warm welcome back to nevermind :).

I think i'll be waiting for the next-in-line to the X2 now...

of course, if a price drop is around, I might always be tempted D:
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
HAHAHAHAHA!!111!! :D My bad :D.

Yup, X4 here I come lol!
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
Does any phone does?

I don't think so.
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Does any phone have one? Yup. Many.
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
Aha... Which?

That you plug in the Pendrive in the phone

and it reads it like a computer?
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Yup.

Dell, Asus, Sharp, many of the Palm devices, the new Toshiba, Nokia's tablets and the new phone-like tablet lol, SE has some devices I'm told, but can't say for sure.... etc. There are more...
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
That's a great functionality.
[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
The point is that you don't care about the that "function" of the device ... therefore you find it unnecessary.

So the **** what if Orelsi wants whatever the **** he's talking about. He wants it. End of story.
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
Don't get your english. Are you offending me

or what?!
[XPERIA X1 General] sa7640:
Where are you from? Your profile says you're from US. Anyway, your English is fun. :D
[XPERIA X1 General] 6600_best:
here are the full specification of x2....

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x2-2926.php

new photos...360 view....etc

check this out
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
I laughed in real life at you. I think he is quite clear in what he is saying.
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
Pitty you're there so rarely.
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Haha! Are you in highschool or something? Enough with the nerdy comebacks. Stop acting like a sullen victim and look at your posts objectively.

I say that I laugh and you get all defensive? Jeez...
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
It's just you who starts these things, you know.

No, I'm not in the highschool, but I thought once you were.
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
There is so much anger and squabbling on XDA lately, it sadens me greatly!
[XPERIA X1 General] informatico:
You guys have to stop this anger ... thats how war starts :D
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
Sure, but I didn't feel anger.
[XPERIA X1 General] romeo0119:
I hope the X2 doesnt really look like that, too damn ugly. Specs are fine, just improve on the design. And I'm thinking it wont come out till 4th quarter 2010 lol knowing sony and delaying stuff.
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
X2 SPECS APPARENTLY:http://www.wmexperts.com/supposed-xperia-x2-specs-leak-out

* 8.1MP camrea with autofocus, VGA video at 30 frames per second.

* A 3.5-inch WVGA OLED touchscreen.

* aGPS

* 3.5MM headphone jack.

* Accelerometer.

* "Faster processor" (the X1 has a Qualcomm MSM7200A running at 528MHz)

* 512MB RAM

* Custom Windows Mobile 6.5 (SE engineers customized Win6.5 which runs very. very speedy. in par with iPhone and better in some cases)

* Upgrading to Windows Mobile 7 is supported by Xperia panels
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
sorry double post *plz delete*
[XPERIA X1 General] spikegotti:
i believe those specs will be upgraded when its ready for sale, remember the x1 specs were upgraded from what was in the first prototypes...just my feeling :)
[XPERIA X1 General] salmonsushi:
Well if you need a keyboard HTC touch pro 2 may be the best portable device. Even though it may be a bit bulky.......

Most complaints about X1 that i have heard would be:

1. Speed - choppy rotation, not responsive, lag, or even freeze. Iphone set a really high standard for responsiveness of smart phones... Even those supposedly FAST custom roms cannot match with the iphone

2. Lack of entertaining software? Simply not enough developers are making WVGA touchscreen games on windows mobile... Most games we can find on the internet are old, VGA with clear pixels, non-touchscreen games... even in Microsoft market place, most of the games are VGA non-touchscreen games. As we are Xperia users with a 800x480 WVGA touchscreen, we expect more from game developers.

3. Not enough panels / panels maybe somewhat useless. Originally panels are designed as a user interface (e.g. SE panel, fish panel, media express panel). However, as more panels are released, they seem to be more of just a program... (facebook, CNN, etc.) and renders the panels as merely "large shortcut buttons that opens your program". clearly, panels is not a responsive program launcher, and perhaps it would be better to just use the new HTC start menu, or thestart menu in SPB mobile shell 3. SPB mobile shell 3 is a big killer for panels, I found myself hardly changing to other panels after using SPB mobile shell 3.. because you can do virtually anything u need, in a finger friendly user interface, customizable widgets, etc. within SPB mobile shell 3.

4. Quality of the X1. How many of you have black Xperia x1 and the paint are being scratched off, even though you have been very careful with the phone, and tried the hardest to protect it? I suggests Sony Ericsson should offer some sort of free case changing program around the world. During February in Hong Kong (2 months after its release) , price of Xperia X1 has decreased by around $200 USD. Does it mean that X1 initially is just an overpriced product that SE tries to rip us off? Or is it that they found out the quality does not match with the price?
[XPERIA X1 General] spikegotti:
salmonsushi...i handled many iphones before i purchased the x1, and i would never buy an iphone regardless how choppy the panels rotate, the xperia portrait to landscape aint choppy, there is not any transition there so i dont know what u are talking about

2. i dont see any xperia or windows mobile device owner buying the device strictly for entertainment. BTW i have 18 games on my xperia and all runs wvga perfectly and i do not even get the time to play one a day lol

3. panels? i have panels installed and i dont even use em, only for showing off purposes which hushes any iphone user around me lol, talk about the fish, they go crazy about the fish and the facebook app.

4. dude i own the black x1 as u can see in the pic, i have to admit the paint does come off, but only on the battery cover, but hey, i just ordered one online for only $5 USD, I refuse to keep my X1 in my pocket or a case, i love it in my hand and will always keep it there when I am out lol, and yes, i am a die hard xperia fanboy

remember, i handled many many iphones before, but the iphone is just not my cup of tea, when i do sell my xperia in a few days which i thought the guy would have bought on friday, i will buy me the silver model, why???? simply bcos the xperia is in a class of its own, nothing can be compared to it.
[XPERIA X1 General] spikegotti:
price of Xperia X1 has decreased by around $200 USD

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dude where did u see that info? not even a used xperia sells for double that amount
[XPERIA X1 General] salmonsushi:
No, not selling at 200, but DECREASED BY 200. I agree that Iphone is more of just a showing off device with no keyboard, low res screen, crappy camera. and that's why i bought the xperia. I have just summarised some complaints by xperia users. However, I do expect more from panels, because it suppose to be the feature that stands out Xperia from the rest of the smart phones (i.e. more panels that are new user interface rather than just softwares). What WVGA games do you have? Do you mind listing the 18 WVGA games coz im having difficulty of finding them : ( Windows mobile catalog seems to be a failure as most of the softwares in it are old... Thanks
[XPERIA X1 General] spikegotti:
acky's xp breakout

archibald's adventures

astraware solitaire

astraware sudoku

astraware bookworm

bejeweled 2

boom blox

bubblebreaker

dragonball (not full wvga but excellent graphics on 3/4 of the screen)

meltdown

mytopia bingo & poker

NFS Undercover

Pacman by namco

panoramic blackjack

pocket uno

quartz 2

solitaire

the only games i miss are skyforce reloaded and simbsoft volleyball, but what the heck, im satisfied with these, my wife play em more than i do lol
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Talk about fail....

1 - After tweaking it a bit my X1 is fast and responsive. Both the screen and the rotation time. People who complain about it either don't know how to tweak it or don't want to, becuase of laziness. Lag or freeze? LMAO Never freezed in months, I ran 20 apps today and the movie I was playing never glitched.

2 - One word to add to spikegotti's post - MORPHGEAR

3 - I agree with spikegotti.

4 - I got no cracks or scratches, except the ones on the battery cover near the usb port. That is my fault though, I tend to plug the charger without looking or during the night in the dark. There is a batch of devices that were defected, but it was the factory's fault. All other Xperias have great quality. I would say luxurious.

I believe there was a post of mine earlier in the thread that shows my attitude towards the iCrap.

P.S. Here is another article about the leaked specs:

http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=7551
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Sorry to promote myself, but read this list of games:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=522761
[XPERIA X1 General] spikegotti:
orelsi, can you show me a link where i can find zuma wvga, all i tried online were vga with poor graphics...plz help :(
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Are you talking about this one?

http://www.astraware.com/ppc/default/zuma
[XPERIA X1 General] spikegotti:
i tried that, doesn't fill the entire screen :(
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Yeah, the playable part of the game doesn't but the program itself does. That's why I listed it under WVGA. Should I change that? Granted there are two bars, but they are coming from the game. There are no missing parts and no need for WVGAFIX.

I guess I'll post a topic about that later.
[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
The Xperia X2 Looks great, the only thing that makes it appear to be ugly I think is the keyboard coloring.
[XPERIA X1 General] sylverx1:
X2 will have 8mp camera ,3.5 oled wvga display, win mo 6.5 upgradeable to win mo 7, 512 mb ram.

:)
[XPERIA X1 General] nguyenkhanhhoang:
You forget to mention is has 8.1 MP camera :D
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
did he? are u sure? want another go lol
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Jon - Mommy pete threw a rock at me!

Pete - No, I did not!

J - Yes, you did!

P - No, I didn't!

J - Did!

P - Not!

J - Did!

P - Not!

J - Yes you did and my dog saw you!

P - Well... yes I did, but you started it!

J - I did not!

P - You did!

J - Not!

P - Did!

J - Not!

P - Did!

J - Not!

..................

Highschool behavior right there.
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
Boy, you have a serious delusions.
[XPERIA X1 General] frive:
You guys just have way too much free time.....
[XPERIA X1 General] bronx:
as I stated some time ago, I really hate Orelsi's brainfarts... he doesn't have a life and he starts most of the fights in here. wtf xda mods? isn't it a warn/ban time??? I wouldn't say a single word if he were right, but most of the time he is just spitting venom at others who dare to have different point of view.

Christ... I haven't read anything interesting on these forums for quite a long time now. whenever I check it it's just him vs. rest of the world arguments.

oh yeah... btw - poetryrocksalot statement was fairly clear, but I wouldn't say it was obvious, hence again - Orelsi's two cents were needles.

sorry for the offtop, but it is getting f... silly as hell.
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
I agree :D.
[XPERIA X1 General] hyellow:
Amen....

No Seriously, please let him finish his attempt of reaching the 2000 post count before the end of the month. I guess that's the reason for waisting so much time on the boards. he must have XDA at speeddial or bookmark on opera, opera mini and IE on his xperia, and whenever he has to take a dump, he is ****ting on other people. Bravo!

Are any of his post being helpfull lately (or anytime), to anyone? I haven't checked really.

It's normal that people have different opinions, but it's not being cool to always have a last say on something that totally has nothing to do with the topic.

but.... i'll guess my MESSAGE isn't flameproof either.
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
Good points.
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Spot on! Skyfire as well.
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
Lets stick to the topic :P

So apparently the x2 got leaked :O!?

lets discuss
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
It looks kinda ugly, but I hope it has a better processor.
[XPERIA X1 General] ncee:
U guys r cracking me up!

@ nevermind: time warp u say? I've been an user of numerous ericsson cellphones since 1997 and when they merged with sony, I was hoping for some real innovative phones and we had 'em. P800 for starters, but besides that and the W and K series, the smartphone segment went down the tubes, P900 was okish, P910 was like whatthefuck is happening here man then W950, M600...?! What's SE trying to prove, that they can make ****ty phones and people will just continue to buy, c'mon ur lack of profits speaks volumes. X1 was supposed to be the ****, but realisticly, if it wasn't for xda it really would've been ****! What, with not listening to consumers for the umpteenth time (X2 using X1's processor and lack of X1 support), u guys think that by loosing one customer it won't matter? Let's wait for the sales figures at the end of this quarter so that we can check if it's only one customer u've lost. As I said before I'll use my X1 till it dies cos I really dig this phone, even with it's various issues but after this I'll be looking for a real device something that actually does what it's supposed to, be it apple, htc, nokia, samsung, etc. Just think how many of ur consumers actully feels cheated after X1 and X2!
[XPERIA X1 General] hyellow:
X2 is the ****.... that just came outa my aars. Sure, X2 will sell, but it will not be SE saver this year. If they don't play it right, x2 will be there doom. The only way to raise salesvolume is to sell it for like... 200euro's, pretty sure they'll be selling 20 million units before the end of the year.
[XPERIA X1 General] informatico:
OK ... i really dont think this is true

in gsmarena x1 was best phone in user ranking for one year almost and even after a year its better (in my point of view) than tp2 that's considered the top of the moment

Second

Don't forget that xda doesnt produce HW ... it's just a tweaking, talking, modding community which of course is supposed to make things better not only for SE but even other brands.
[XPERIA X1 General] ncee:
Agreed! Sell the it a realistic price, otherwise there's no point in upgrading our hansets ito X2's specs.
[XPERIA X1 General] ncee:
Don't get me wrong I totally dig my X1 and I feel it deserved that ranking cos although the form factor was not entirely new u had htc and nokia (n97) following suit. I wanted to upgrade to the next installment of xperia but as I said before: "What's the point"!

On ur second point, I don't mind the hardware, besides cracks, external speaker on awkward positions, lighting of keyboard keys in certain conditions, etc. My point is SE let us down big time in the UI department and if it wasn't for xda we still would've been in the doldrums.
[XPERIA X1 General] salmonsushi:
The most attractive feature of X2:

No more chipping off of paints (hopefully, it will be funny if paint fall off even from the plastic-ish material); but there will be no more metallic/luxury feel to me....

anthoer major upgrade maybe the 8MP camera, but i don't think it will be better compare to new cybershot series or satio...

The rest are just minor changes to me....
[XPERIA X1 General] salmonsushi:
lol, I may consider if they offer an "add 100 USD for an upgrade to X2 for existing X1 users" promotion
[XPERIA X1 General] Mopral:
Battery cover is still metallic...
[XPERIA X1 General] salmonsushi:
really? it looks plastic-irsh for me, lol, but at least they changed the paint. Hopefully more adheresive
[XPERIA X1 General] mbernstein:
The matter of upgrading is personal, of course. But just to throw my 2 cents, it is not only about upgrading from X1 to X2.

Like myself, I didn't see a good reason to upgrade from my Kaiser to X1, but it looks like X2 is a very worthy upgrade for me, only with these minor upgrades from X1 and a few "downgrades" (I like the many hardware controls of X1 which are nicer for me than a little bit more bare X2).

I would like more upgrades of course, but there are enough to justify the X2 for me whereas with X1 there wasn't. Like myself there may be many others.

BTW, I believe since the announcement there has been no mention of a WM 7 future upgrade for the X2. Or did I miss it?
[XPERIA X1 General] emuneee:
I doubt the X2 will be upgradeable to WM7. WM7 requires a Snapdragon, TI OMAP 3430, or NVIDIA Tegra (or equiavalent) chipset and OpenGL 2.0 compatible graphics hardware. The X2 has none of the above.
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
by the time wm7 is released, the x2 replacement will be ready
[XPERIA X1 General] spikegotti:
and how do we know the exact specs for wm 7?

nevermind has some info on wm 7 and the x2 that seems to be something positive that he refuses to share for reasons...i think we should wait for an official something from M$ in regards to wm 7 instead of repeating rumors
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
LOL'd hard :D. I haven't seen than one in a long time :D.
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
the minimal hw specs have been leaked by lots of sources and are near def and if they have just one spec missing it wont be let through, microsoft is doing this so all wm7 phones work smooth like the iphone etc.

the x2 graphics card cant do open es 2.0

the x2 does not have the required cpu (armv6+, L2 cache,VFP)

the x2 does not have 1gb+ flash (with at least 512mb fast flash)

the x2 does not have a multi touch display

the x2 does not have a compass sensor

so lots of reasons why it could never be upgraded to wm7

u might say the specs are unofficial but there have been a lot of wm phone making companies that have leaked these specs.

ps. the open es 2.0 and multi touch display have to be standard on wm7 if they are to compete with the other os's
[XPERIA X1 General] mbernstein:
Thanks for clarifying.

BTW, on another thread you mentioned that you heard that the X2 camera sensor is more like the good Cybershot phones. How possibly accurate is your "I heard"? Thanks.
[XPERIA X1 General] spikegotti:
well i hope that nevermind say what he knows about the x2 and wm 7, because we are just going by speculation

it only takes one to to spread a rumor and another blog or site will change the words to suit them, i dont believe anything until its official, reminds me of the x2 rumors when it was said the x2 would have 512 MB of RAM and a faster processor
[XPERIA X1 General] gundamboy:
nevermind would probably say, "nevermind"
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
it was from someone who was playing around with the x2 when they announced it but he said it was not working properly (some of the settings and software was not working) but when he took pics with it he though it was as good as the co5 but he said that he will wait for the final version before confirming this. he could be wrong but seeing how the x2 is make from a lot of the x1 hardware, it makes sense for SE to use the same sensor that they already have in another phone.

but as always not def
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
at some stage of SE making the x2 it probably came up but then they decided to use all the x1 hardware with some extra stuff making it impossible to upgrade to wm7.

try any remember that with all this wm6.7 stuff leaking out, wm7 is probably going to come out later than expected, like oct-dec next year. about the time when x2 replacement model will be released. because of this SE probaly decided to to make the x2 able (hardware side) to be upgraded.

making u buy the x3 with the new wm7 next year
[XPERIA X1 General] ncee:
But isn't X3 the android phone?
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
i think they will call the android xperia phone it something else.

if you look at the xperia kiki which most thought would have a X name (x4). they changed that to xperia pureness so i expect the android handset to be called the xperia *******.

it makes sense as if they call the android phone x3 and the kiki x4 it would seem that the x2 and x3 is old versions and the x4 is the new one ( x4 = kik, which is the least powerful).

so not to confuse the market they change the kiki xperia from a x number to a name and i reckon they will with the android phone too.
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Kiki was never meant to be a "X" series. It is not powerful enough. It is Xperia line, but not "X" series.

I can't say anything about the Android device, yet.
[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
If you're talking about the X3, I don't think the X3 will be bar-only phone. I don't even think it (the Rachael) will be part of Xperia line.

I also don't think the Xperia Pureness is an actualy Xperia phone.

These are all rumors. **** rumors. Rumors should die.
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
I agree to that. Lets wait and see who guessed right about the other stuff :).
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
WTF are you talking about.

Kiki = Xperia Pureness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcrPHTqbr-o&feature=player_embedded
[XPERIA X1 General] bronx:
well... I thought the same. I believe that Kiki is an xperia officialy, isn't it?

[offtop] have You guys noticed lack of moderators in here? foul language becomes something normal and acceptable in here. I said it before - xda devs is getting more and more polluted with morons... :(
[XPERIA X1 General] spikegotti:
i thought so too, and if it was never meant to be an xperia what did SE had it as before?

i thought they were the ones who called the shots on what suppose to be what, saying the KIKI was never meant to be in the xperia line up or that its not an xperia is weird, bcos the makers of the device already stated what the device is, the XPERIA Pureness.

anyway, people need to stop thinking xperia is windows mobile only, from what SE is doing with the xperia line it seems as though their motive was for a new 'Experience=xperience=xperia'...thats the reason why we have seen two different xperias with two diff OS and one leaked xperia with android, sooo, i think the common sense thing to do is to wait on SE to say what their product is, and not say what it isn't after they have already announced what it already is.

its like telling Mercedes that their lineup is not Benz, its Corolla
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
i think u find the kiki is officially xperia pureness.

and the android phone will be a xperia phone too but not part of the x range
[XPERIA X1 General] ncee:
Question?

If Xperia range of phones is about a new type of Xperiance, what exactly does X2 bring to the table: X1 = seXi arc qwerty slider, X3 = 4inch 1ghz android phone, Xperia Pureness = innovative transparent screen, X2 = ???
[XPERIA X1 General] Mopral:
8Mp camera?
[XPERIA X1 General] ncee:
There's a camera on X1, I'm not too concened about mp count on a cellphone, 5 or 8mp should be fine. In any case, 8mp cam is moving towards the new standard on mobile phones, my question still remains: X2 = ???
[XPERIA X1 General] spikegotti:
i think the x2 is a relaunch of the x1, since the x1 was terrible in built quality and graphics drivers :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
I agree about the drivers and such, but the build quality? It is as good as any phone on the market and BETTER than most of them. It is a luxurious device. All the over-inflated pseudo defects make me laugh.