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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Kristaps-K9-Lv:
Just read a review - http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=reviews&id=1139

made me thinking, but still I need someone who is holding the device in his hands to write a review or something about the sound capabilities and other multimedia stuff!!! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orb3000:
Well

If you ask this on HD section you would recieve a lot of posts saying No!

But as you posted here...imagine what members would say?:eek:

If you prefer a buisness oriented device with a real keyboard go for TP2

If you are looking for a more entertainment device go for HD
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sgsdebruijn:
If you don't need a keyboard then the HD would be nicer.

Now i have a HD and a TP2, for now there are no custom roms for the TP2 and the standard HTC rom is crap. After a night the device reacts slow and needs a softreset.

With a custom rom (black pearl 2.9 or daviduck 6.1) the HD is more stable and faster.

good luck with your choice. The sound when making a telephoen call is better with the TP2!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Kristaps-K9-Lv:
I wanted to but this place has some touch pro 2 users, and the forum doesnt have a option where you can have same thread in different forum places!!!!

but I think I will post same thread at HD forum!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] aeon101:
I did it last week (changed my HD for TP2) and I have to say that it is definitely worth of change (if as you are saying multimedia user). Better video, speaker is unbelievable, better camera (photos and video recording etc.). Different is, that I definitely needed a keyboard so this was my real drive. But by this I realised many other advantages of TP2. I wouldn´t change it for Diamond 2, but TP2 ruless...WiFi is for me same as on HD.

Dan
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] shingers5:
i have got both phones and the touch HD has a bigger screen and video performance is about the same. the reason i say to get a tp2 is as follows:

1. screen is much brighter and colors more vivid. when watching movies you can tell the difference instantly. playback is much more fluid on the tp2

2. htc have refined the tp2 to almost perfection. the whole user experience is thoroughly enhanced. touchflo finally looks like a winner and the addition of the vibez feedback just adds another dimension

3. battery life is better on the tp2 as i have had both devices running together on similar usage

4. tp2 is latest technology and a vast improvement on past htc devices.

5. it looks awesome dude

i'd say to get a tp2 and not only will you have a new device but one which delivers with what it has got under the hood!

edit: oh yeah the current radio is pretty good. got a constant 'H' signal and wifi is strong in and outdoors!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] JLowe:
Well if you are listening also to music with a wired headset than you have to consider that the TP2 hasn't got a 3,5 mm headphone jack...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Kristaps-K9-Lv:
less than 10$ on ebay and now you do!!! :D

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...Category=20336&_trkparms=algo=LVI&its=I&otn=2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] shingers5:
soundz like your mind is already made up! just get it as i am sure you will like. phone is a good un mate and my views may seem bias, just that i got both devices and the improvements are clear to see :cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Kristaps-K9-Lv:
The problem right now is - I dont have the $$$ for the phone but selling my touch HD will take some time(if I will even be able to sell it, but i think if I throw in some extras like Nokia BH-503 stereo headset, then I think that the phone will go!! but im not 18y old so I have to do some talking with my parents!! :p:p :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] shingers5:
well 1 month of doing dishes, promise to keep your room clean, wash the car for 4 weeks and bring in the groceries. sounds like a good deal to me so your parents might buy it!:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Kristaps-K9-Lv:
not good for me!!!!:D :D

my parents are realy (i dont know the right word - hard, or something, trying to raise me right) and they wont buy it for me!!!

Im already trying to get a bike from them (have to do everything they say-lot of work in the garden and lot of painting-- and get a midle grade of 8 in school + all exams combined) nice aint it?? :D

But the touch HD is 100% mine, bought from my money!! :p

So ill do alot of thinking an if you see me writting in Touch Pro 2 forum at the end of the summer, then I managed to get Touch Pro 2.... :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] smasma:
one of the reasons ive not read here is:

You have to hold the HD in your hand or put it up against something to watch tv or video

The pro 2 can stand on your desk and you can see video's just while it stands

and the extra keyboard lets you see the hole screen, when you use the onboard keyboard you mis a large chunk of screen

imhu
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] galaxys:
I have the good old HD, but will be getting the TP2 for most of the reasons already mentioned (once it comes to the usa for tmobile 3G)! Mostly, I want the tilt capability for most of the stuff I do.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ratchetjaw:
I also say go for it. I have both and at first look it is very noticable in the small screen size difference i was like ahh i dont know. But in less than 30 minutes i was thinking of putting the HD up for sale lol. (iam keeping though most likely). The build of this phone is very nice and its a good performer minus typical few misc bugs. Once the cooks start in this phone will be tops for sure
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] xmoo:
I'm gonna sell my Touch HD to get a TP2, Having Big finger and using the on screen keyboard is pain in the ass!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] billu:
The only pluses for the HD are:

1) Bigger screen (only by 0.2 inches) but it does make a difference.

2) 3.5mm audio jack (I am not a big user of earphones so not an issue, plus you can always use bluetooth ones or get an adaptor)

3) Camera is 5MP (Never really used it as I have the N95 which is much more user friendly in this dept)

but the positives for the Touch PRO 2 are:

1) TV-OUT

2) Fantastic keyboard (Had Shapewriter on the HD which made the onscreen entry bearable but still no match for a hardware solution at the end of the day)

3) Better multimedia performance (around 30% I would say)

4) Tilting screen

All in all the only downer for me is the smaller screen but will sacrifice that for the other advantages the TP2 brings to the table.

Make no mistake, the touch HD is a brilliant all round phone but for me anyway the extra functionality of the TP2 is too appealing.

Touch HD will be going on Ebay soon.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Roupette:
You forgot another advantage for the HD : it's pretty much thinner than the TP2... and I find that in term of design, the HD is really more good-looking.

Another thing is that multimedia improvement on TP2 is certainly allowed by software corrections which will be soon (are already?) available on HTC HD cooked ROMs.

So I'm sticking with my HD, however I'll still be jealous of TP2's hardware keyboard, which honestly seems to rock ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orelsi:
Do it now!!! It is not just a HD with a keyboard as some people say. It is better on many levels. As a former HD (it is awful) owner I can say that I wouldn't hesitate even for a second.

The only advantage HD has is the 3.5 mm jack. If losing that doesn't bother you, you are all set.

Wi-Fi is as good as any other HTC device I have used. Sound quality is very nice. It is not on Nokia or Sony Ericsson levels, but it is a pretty big step up from the TP or the HD. You cannot expect great bass on a phone, unless you have the Nokia N95 which has monstrous speakers.

That is my opinion on the comparison of those two phones and the question at hand. I have my reservations about the TP2 in general, but compared to the HD it is a definitive winner.

Cheers !
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] josh_prayyforplagues:
so is it safe to say that the TP2 is an improved version of the HD and TP1? thats what its starting to sound like, right?

-better screen quality, [HD = high definition. TP2 = highER definition?]

-sound, [dual speakers]

-tiltable

-keyboard, [improved from the TP1.]

-screen, [bigger than TP1, better resolution.]

-TF3D, [added features that TP1 didnt have.]

-layout, [when tilted, the slide bar shows. TP1, bar doesnt show.]

-video/playback quality, [better than either, TP1 or HD.]

sounds like a winner people.

i cant think of anything i dont like about this phone, from the specs anyway. the only thing i have against it, is all the bloatware thats going to come with it from Tmobile. but that can easily be fixed with a custom ROM. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orelsi:
It is a lot better than the HD.

About the TP1.... If you want my honest opinion read this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=3888025#post3888025
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Link278:
Also I think the touch pro 2 has a more sensitive screen than the HD also, there is a very similar thread to this a while back which is here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=502207

and one here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=520073
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orelsi:
Thank you for those. Some nice reading there.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RacerX10:
Why would media performance be any different, aren't they the same processor ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Kraize:
I was also wondering the same thing lol. It seems that maybe it has to do with the OpenGL drivers or something different. Someone will have to dump a TP2 rom and use the drivers in a HD rom to see if it might make a difference.

@OP

Man, I'm totally with you on that. I was all for a Touch HD, until the TP2 came out :D I've had a Samsung Blackjack > Tytn II > HTC Touch Pro and I was going to go for the Touch HD, but the TP2 seems so much better. I really think the slimline would do better and I plan on going for the Touch HD if everything is ported from the TP2 (it should be as soon as a rom is dumped and hard-spl comes out). I really don't care for the tilting as I didn't use it as much when I was using my Tytn II and after a while, the tilting mechanism became loose :| which made it useless. I'd rather have a multimedia phone anyways :P HTC is slowly killing me by not putting in 3.5mm into it's new phones...I mean come on :| I'll either get an HD and wait for a TP3, get the TP2 and wait for TP3/ HD 2 / Xperia 2. OR wait all together for a Xperia 2 and HD 2 to come out to compare to the TP2. TP2 right now is so freaking new, it's the hype. If you're under 18, you don't get phones often (Trust me, I'm 16 right now). I would suggest you wait and see what your options are. Chances are if you have an HD, you should be good for now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Kristaps-K9-Lv:
well, the last though right now I have is-- wait for a PPC with Nvidia Tegra, if tegra can really do the stuff its comercialised to, then its made for me :p

we are always complaining that our devices are slow, because of the cpu speed and "missing drivers" --- so I think that I will whait for Tegra and i will take it, even if itsnot HTC!!!!
[Touch GSM General] srimpo:
Hello All

After lots of love with my touch, i have decided that it is hardware keyboard time,

i have an EXCALIBUR!!

Anyway, in the auction is my elfin, lots of pics + details online.

comes with SPB shell 2.0 (not a fan of 3) and SPB Fullscreen keyboard 4

i have flashed a nonbranded ROM, (Official) but most of you here will have no trouble putting WM 6.5 on!!!!!

remember this is an ELFIN so thats 128mb of ram,and 256mb of rom. this means that it is able to run more applications, and better ROM upgrades than the original elf!

Please Visit My Auction and help me through university next year!!

HAPPY BIDDING

EDIT: Forgot to add the auction!!
[G1 General] aye_captain:
do you still experiencing the touch screen error problem after all the steps you have taken? because i have the same problem. sometimes when i use touch screen to switch screens, the screen get stuck in the middle and shaking. i also cannot select anything correctly by touching. and i've read from various forums that this has something to do with the charger / charging process. i think that my problem occured because i charged using usb cable to my computer. because i never done that before (i usually charge my phone using a wall charger) and when i did, the problem happened.
[G1 General] Mysticales:
How I fixed it? I turned off the G1, used rubbing alcohol with a tissue to gently wipe the screen off and clean it. Then turned back on and it was fine.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] gadgetgirl21:
I have no idea what I'm doing this is the first time I have ever been on a forum so please be gentle. I am having a Blonde moment my iphone has gone loopy and I have no idea what to do as it is unlocked and I am scared to do anything with it so I've had to dust the cobwebs from my unlocked XDA II. I was wondering if I could upgrade the Rom on my XDA II and also will it uprade to WM2005 and if so how the hell do you do this as I cant even remember how to use this phone it's been so long. Or is there anybody who knows about Iphones I can't open my sms messages it just closes. I would really appreciate some help:confused: PLEASE
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] abuabdillahaljawi:
You can upgrade rom

If your device is XDA II (himalaya) then you can upgrade the rom, but it's not in this section. This section is for XDA IIi (Alpine). Search on the himalaya section miss.
[G1 General] chefgon:
My wife and I both have G1s (not rooted) running the official OTA version of Android 1.5. We also both own stereo bluetooth headphones (hers is an older Logitech, mine is a year old Sony).

These headphones behave pretty differently when connected, and these differences remain the same regardless of which handset we're using so I'm assuming the difference is in the headphones themselves.

Her older Logitech model is very reluctant to connect after it's been paired. It usually requires restarting both the phone and the headphones a few times before it will finally hold a connection. Otherwise, it just shows "Connecting..." then "Paired but not connected", alternating back and forth every ten seconds or so when we're trying to set them up.

When her headphones finally do connect, the sound quality is fine but her entire system is slowed down to basically unusable levels. Even something as simple as selecting a new album from the music player app is rendered nearly impossible. These headphones seem to work fine on other A2DP devices, specifically an old T-Mobile Dash that we had sitting around, but had the same effect on both G1s.

My Sony headphones connect nearly instantly every time we try them, and while it does seem to create some mild slowdown from time to time it is nothing like the unusably slow system that the Logitech headphones create. Does anybody know why different bluetooth headphones would affect the system so differently?
[G1 General] breaultm:
While I can't offer insight as to why this happens, I can substantiate your original observations. I have a pair of Motorola S9's, and they periodically have difficulty connecting to the phone, requiring powering cycling both the headphones and bluetooth.

The phone also takes a performance hit and I even experience severe music skipping while doing anything intensive on the phone (browsing heavy websites and the like).

These headphones work fine with other A2DP phones.

Edit: I am on the Ion build.
[G1 General] chefgon:
I ended up solving this problem by buying a second pair of Sony headphones for my wife, but I'm still interested in learning what could have possibly caused this dramatic difference between them if anybody has any insight.

If anybody's interested, the headphones that work well were a pair from Sony: DR-BT22 is the model number. They're pretty good and $30 on Amazon right now if anybody needs to replace a set that is causing slowdowns.
[G1 General] breaultm:
possible solution: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=518918
[General Questions and Answers] hmotawea:
Please help me with this:

I was flashing my glofiish x500 but Unfortunately while I was updating the power went off!!!!! Now my glofiish X500 turn to black screen and the power lamp lighting in orange colour, I tried to go the bootloader mode but the mobile does not respond still giving me the black screen with the power lamp lighting with orange colour, Please what do I do to make it work again?
[General Questions and Answers] orb3000:
Welcome to the forum

This is an HTC devices forum only so dont expect too much replies

But I would recommend to reflash again

Hope it helps

Good luck,
[General Questions and Answers] hmotawea:
Thank you, but please reconsider the help

thank you for notifying me, but I hope that may be there one experience enough to help me........

I tried to connect the mobile to computer, but it the computer does not recognize the mobile and active syn. does not connect with the mobile......

Please any idea what to do???????

no connection to computer, no bootloader so what to do?????????
[General Questions and Answers] timmymarsh:
Is there any life in the device at all, ie pressing power button do anythng at all? Have u tried a hard reset via the buttons (not software dependant) sorry i dont know the button combination for the glofiish.

Was it an official rom update? Have you tried charging device for at least 3 hours without the sim card and sd (if it has one:D) or tried another battery?

If there is nothing then it sounds bricked to me.:(
[General Questions and Answers] Dragokazov:
Is there any possibility to "recover" (put its life back :-D) a bricked device? I can not imagine that it is totally broken - it is only software isn't it? I'm a newbie. Thanks :)
[General Questions and Answers] hmotawea:
Totally Black Screen with orange lamp lightening

I think that I erased the software completely,

Does anyone knows what are the JTAG pins of Glofiish X500???????????

Please Help........

Thanks for the reply,,,,,,,,,,,
[General Questions and Answers] User22:
Have a look on here http://www.eten-users.eu/
[G1 General] Rayman0625:
HTC's hipsteriffic invitations for a June 24th event in London contained precious few clues (DUDE'S WEARING A ROSE), but the Economic Daily News is now reporting something totally reasonable: it's for the Hero and Lancaster, HTC's presumed next Android phones.

Curiously, the paper refers to the two phones as one device, in two versions differentiated only by a keyboard.

The HTC Hero will be available in two versions, with and without a QWERTY keyboard. The model with a keyboard will be named HTC Memphis, or HTC Lancaster for sale by AT&T exclusively in the US for six months starting the third quarter, the paper indicated.

It certainly looks like there'll be a bit more than that to set the devices apart, and for the sake of variety, I hope there is. In any case, we'll be there. [Economic Daily News via Digitimes]

http://gizmodo.com/5278510/report-htc-announcing-hero-lancaster-android-phones-on-june-24th

Looks like we won't be getting the Hero, or we have to wait until after the 6 months AT&T has it exclusively?
[G1 General] G-Fetus6:
that phone is UGLY!! the mytouch 3g or what ever their calling it . looks way better
[G1 General] harpreet1988:
The version without the keyboard will probably be Hero, since the Lancaster is the one for AT&T.
[G1 General] tshizzle:
how about this one?

http://ow.ly/b3EG
[G1 General] Hendrik212:
Anyone noticed that at least the Lancaster version has only a 240x320 display?

If this is also true for the HTC Hero version, it would be a clear disadvantage.
[G1 General] Nikeem24:
LMAO!!!!..............You are absolutely right. And why do they intend on doing the "Chin" thing on these devices. I mean im not really complaining(Lie) but i really want to know why and what purpose dos it serve.......lol im just saying.:D
[G1 General] g1junky:
this means that we're gonna have a better hero build with bluetooth that works :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Waze:
This is Daniel from the product group of waze (www.waze.com),

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We launched an alpha two weeks ago, limited to android, and received

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We are proud to announce that we are now opening the alpha for Windows Mobile Phones.

We are looking for people who would like to test out our product on their HTC phones.

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[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] dpgc213:
made it easier to change the lockscreen wallpaper for you lot

image has to be 320x480 for it to look normal and has to be a .jpg

you have to have adb set up

instructions:

1. download and unzip the lock screen folder to anywhere you want

2. place your desired image into the lockscreen folder (make sure theres only one image here)

3. double click lockscreen.bat

4. wait for your phone to reboot with your new lockscreen image

http://www.zshare.net/download/61708386e89ec17c/

thanks to xidominicanoix image name doesnt have to be limited to 18 characters

Donate
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] doubleokneegro:
this WORKS

my steps were:

1. download the file... unzip and open lockscreen folder

2. place an image 320x480 in this folder (The

name

does not matter, will be renamed in process)

3. Connect phone (ADB is required)

4. Run .bat file (ADB remount, rename, and cp to default_lockscreen land/port)

5. It will reboot on its own

6. SEE ATACHMENT.. Youre all done..
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] uberingram:
Is this a straight rip of it? Meaning it displays calendar, music and message notifications while locked?
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] dpgc213:
this is for the hero rom only, as when you try and change your lock screen wallpaper the gallerly crashes. the only way to do it is through adb or terminal

i just made this to make things easier when i wanted to change my wallpaper and id thought i share it :D
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] uberingram:
That's what I figured, just wasn't clear. Thank you for clearing that up for me. :)
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] matt_stang:
How exactly do you change the wallpaper manually? I have a 320x480 jpg that I want to use for my lockscreen wallpaper and named it Default_lockscreen.jpg and put it on the root of my sd. This is what I did:

# rm -r /system/etc/lockscreen/port/Default_lockscreen.jpg
# cp /sdcard/Default_lockscreen.jpg /system/etc/lockscreen/port/Default_lockscreen.jpg

Then rebooted. But it didn't work, it just shows no wallpaper when it should show the lockscreen wallpaper. What do I need to do?
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] dpgc213:
just use the bat file i posted its quicker, if you want to do it manually you need to add the lock screen image to the landscape folder in /system/etc aswel
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] killa_tattz:
damn so easy, love it, good work...
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] doubleokneegro:
check out my post, post 2 for a step by step which might be alittle more clearer... its what i did, n is exactly the same as the instructions
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] bigballa:
worked like a charm

if anyone needs 320x480 pictures interface lift has some really nice ones

check this one out
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] Rinja:
i'll try that now thanks
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] bboy_201:
hmmmmmmmm....

this is not working for me,,,,,,

damn idk....