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[Touch CDMA Android Development] kr4zyc1d:
2 more things

Hey everyone, I thought of two more questions I had, or perhaps fixes. None the less, on the HTC Vogue, is there a button that will return you to the home screen right away? So for instance, if I am using the browser, and I have searched say 10 pages, and I needed to get back home, I would need to push the camera button (which is the 'back'/'exit' key) until I am all the way back to the home, and now I have lost the page I was on! Very frustrating!

My second thought is: how do I suppress the warning that tells me I need to plug in my charger, or at least make it happen less often. Yes, I am very well aware that my phone battery is low, as indicated by the red image on the top. And every time it reminds me, it uses that much more juice of my battery and causes me to stop using it to press the "ok" button and continue for another five minutes, where it must remind me again!!!

Just some thought I have had while using the device, if anyone knows of any solutions I would love to try them out! Thanks.

Matt
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
ok for the first thing open spare parts and there is a setting that makes the end(red button)key go home then if pressed again, to sleep. it helps alot!

and for the second one yea i kno it is annoying but dude just plug your phone in:p, i think we have to live with this one afaik there isnt a setting for this
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
EDIT2: yea no data with hero builds either hmm i guess im staying away from the sprint hero, til this gets figured out.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
should prob pull that sprint build.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
yea, did you ever figure out how to get your data back as i remember you had this problem? you have verizon too right? i wonder if it is related...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
i called verizon and had them reset my phone. then booted back into the sprint rom and messed around with the wireless settings until it worked. i don't know if it was the combo of me messing around or just that the verizon tech figured it out. but messing around with those setting in wireless in the sprint rom takes affect on your whole phone. it doesn't reset it's self when you switch back. is your winmo data working? btw i pulled the sprint build to depreciated.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kr4zyc1d:
HAHA Thanks, yeah, I switched the end button behavior. I'm not sure how I missed that all these times! And I suppose I will just plug my phone in :P!!! Thanks again, have a good day everyone.

Matt
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
yes ironically i have data and 3g in winmo just not android
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
no, no data in winmo i was mislead by the 3g. i called vzw and sat on the phone with them for like 2 hours and got no-where. i gotta wait for one of there engineers to call me or some ****. they said it might take like 3 days :eek:. ****in sprint hero!:mad:. oh well ya live ya learn i hope i didnt **** some **** up for good

when i try to connect in winmo i have 3g with 4 bars and when i tries to connect it says invalid username and password and i kno that it is correct...idfk
[Touch CDMA Android Development] clockworx:
Market works fine on Hero

Good news!

I definitely had the market issue before on both cupcake and donut after using the donut build. I went to a sprint store today and tried using my google account on a hero, and the market worked fine! So it appears that the market should work for anyone with the market issue who upgrades to a "real" Hero.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
can you check to see if going back to your vogue/nike/polaris with a cupcake build, you have full market back?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] clockworx:
Sadly, I do not :(

Does this imply it is a build issue that could be fixed, though?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
i have full market with a new account. on the cupcake ion and the fixed donut ion. it's good to hear that the full market works with accounts that don't seem to work on our builds. i'll be getting an android phone as soon as verizon puts out a htc branded one. i'd go with the sholes but htc has more experience with android at this point.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] fixxxer2008:
i heard verizon may be getting the hero.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
Actually the Sholes/Droid will ship with android 2.0 eclair. I just looked the screen shots and android 2.0 is looking really sweet.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] irodex:
Is bluetooth working on ANY of the Android roms for the Vogue?

Thank you!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mikeschevelle:
I cannot get this to run. I believe i have all the correct files and when i run haret, it gets to a point where it renames 100+ or so "bad file names" and then hangs up and after about 25 minutes i just give up and soft reset.

Any ideas?

thanks
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
sounds like you have corrupt file/s somewhere. sorry
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mikeschevelle:
could someone make a list with links to exactly what i need. sorry i know thats kind of a big request
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
the latest basefiles extracted to root of sdcard, default.txt, file a system file(whatever flavor you like)

everything is at code.google.com/p/vogue-hero

code.google.com/p/vogue-android
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mikeschevelle:
I have all those and it loads for a minute and then spends the next 8 minutes autorenameing bad files.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mikeschevelle:
also when it gets to a point where it freezes, it "registers" anything i do, ie , button presses plugging in or unplugging the usb. Anything i do shows up on the screen as code i am assuming

the last line that it always freezes on is

[ 778.655269] r5:00000000 r4:0000000

then under that is the flashing underscore that registers any buttons i push
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mikeschevelle:
also just to ask a dumb question, the root of the SD card is the main folder when i click on storage card in explore
[Touch CDMA Android Development] My-life:
Is there a way to get 'system-2009-08-08.img' in Dutch?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] wentzeric:
HELP this Vouge user

I have tried everything, I have looked for alternate way around loading Android on this verizon touch/vouge 6900

I have formatted the SD card

I have tried new and old system files and rootfs files and default.txt files.

its brand new and I have tried it both with and with out a custom rom.

I have seen other have this same error code...

"failed to mount SD card. cannot continue

/bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off"

I have yet to see a resolution

some one please tell me what this is and where to go from here.

thanks in advance
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
what did you format your sd card to?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] wentzeric:
I had the card formatted by a HTC mogul, then I formatted it using an SD adapter to FAT32 and tried just FAT.....

what else can I do?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] wentzeric:
Solution:

I formatted the card using the SD Formatter V2.0:D

Windows would not recognize it when it was done, but I put it back into the Touch, loaded the 7 files and it went off like a snap.....

It was a SD card issue.

Thanks for all your pages about this working....and all your work on this project.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mikeschevelle:
so should i format my card, mine loads but only half way and then hangs up on a file or something
[Touch CDMA Android Development] MrPenguin_2:
So I finally figured out how to fix my resources.zip issue and I'm posting the solution in case someone else runs in to this problem.

Problem:

No matter what I did I couldn't get any ringtones to be recognized. I had tried putting the ringtones both in a ringtones folder on the root of the SD card and just extracting the zip to the root of the SD.

Solution:

I don't know if I had to, but I formatted everything on my SD card and put on a fresh copy of everything (except the default file). That didn't change anything. So I downloaded Astro (the file manager) from Android Market. I went into my SD folder, created a ringtones file with Astro, and copied a single ringtone from the Media -> Audio -> Ringtones file on my SD card. After that android recognized not only the ringtone in the folder on the root, but all the ringtones in the Media folder. It also recognized all the notifications.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mikeschevelle:
how do i access the SD card in android, also is there a smart dialer i can install
[Touch CDMA Android Development] My-life:
Nobody knows?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] spidiracer:
Is there a better writeup/how to for this? This one is not accurate:

http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android/wiki/HowToInstall

A lot of the files a re-named and the instructions are not accurate. For a total newbie trying to do this... its very confusing and difficult. I think I have gotten things figured out but I am not sure. Its just sitting on HeRET: Booting Linux... been there for a few minutes. I am just chilling. Anyway... better instructions out there or no?

How long should I wait on this Booting Linux prompt before I start to worry?

I hope I renamed the files right.. I did not have a initrd.gz so I renamed the rootfs-15-10-09v2.img to that... I assumed that was the initrd file...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] spidiracer:
Well despite bad instructions I have gotten a little farther... its booting now... sorta... Right now its stopped at

/bin/sh1 cant access ttyi job control turned off

/# _

What does that mean?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
did you download the basefiles?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] spidiracer:
I did yeah... I didn't quite understand the instructions in the readme though. I just extracted everything from the basefiles onto the card... overwriting anything else with the same filename that I previously had on the card.

I started over. Last time I forgot to take one of the conf files out of the conf folder and put it on the root... I have a welcome to google ion now.

I think the reason more people dont do this is because its so confusing... its actually pretty simple if you just have descent instructions. Maybe I will write some up!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
i just wrote one up its at vogue-hero
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mikeschevelle:
I believe I am using the Ion build?, Any one figure out how to get the phone to vibrate when you get a notification(text/email). There is a vibrate on incoming call option but not for incoming notifications.

Thanks
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
not sure about ion but in hero go to the settings in the message app
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mikeschevelle:
LOL Needless to say I am still getting used to each app having its own menu :D

thanks
[Touch CDMA Android Development] spidiracer:
anyone else have problems with SMS? Some texts I seem to get just fine... others I dont. I sent a few messages out and those didn't make it to my recipient... Thats no bueno.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] My-life:
Don't go past 160 characters.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mikeschevelle:
So what is making this run my battery down twice as fast as my NFS WinMo ROM I came from. I could get almost two days normal use from NFS. Andriod isnt even lasting me 8 hours.

I have a Task Manager and dont have gmail on auto sync. Only thing I have is a weather widget. Any tweaks out there?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
there is a thread going on about battery life. also make sure your using the latest kernel. turn down screen brightness and turn off data/gps/bluetooth when not in use. also make sure the power settings are correct in the defaulttxt
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mikeschevelle:
also is there anything in the marketplace to toggle on/off background data?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] donkeyman:
None that I've noticed. It's annoying to turn on data for marketplace and then having to remember to turn it off again. But then again, this is only a problem due to the short battery life.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
"power control" widget included in some of the system.img/sqsh files toggles background data.

missed sms and calls (never come through or wake up phone at all) are a known issue that some have and some don't, seems to be nothing to be done about it at this point. no difference with cupcake vs donut.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mikeschevelle:
I do not see a widget in the marketplace called power control
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kr4zyc1d:
Constantly Rebooting

Guys, this is just silly. Why must I reboot at least twice a day now? It either locks up or gives me a list of must "force close" apps like acore and other stuff. Is there something I am not doing? I made those changes that we had discussed earlier, but this is just getting annoying!

Other information:

-I do not have many apps installed.

-When Android does finally boot, for some reason 90% of my apps start running in the background. This did not use to happen with previous versions (now requiring me to run Advanced task killer so that my phone gets up to speed and doesn't suck battery life)

-Every time it boots, it creates a file called fsck000X on the SD card. I have worked with linux for a few years now and understand what fsck is, but why is it creating a file every time it boots (oh, and that never happened on previous versions)

I hope I provided enough information that maybe someone can figure out what is going on with my device and why it does stupid things!!! Thanks again guys, have a good one.

Matt
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kr4zyc1d:
A note

I forgot to mention, I have an 8 GB Turbo SD card. I know that people originally had said that anything over 2 GB was going to be an issue, however I haven't had a problem with it booting, but as for the other problems I am experiencing, could this be the problem? Most obvious way of testing this process is to get a 2 GB card and try it out I suppose, but if someone knows how to resolve my issue before I go out and pick one up that would be awesome. Thanks again,

Matt
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mikeschevelle:
Over atr PPCGeeks there is a thread on the Andriod on the Vogue, I think its called the newbie guide. Anyway a gentleman zipped me together an Ion build and posted it in there. I have been running it with really zero problems. Maybe give that "build" a shot.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kr4zyc1d:
Update

Thanks for the advice. Do you happen to have that build zipped up still and would you mind sending it to me? Also, I checked over there and there were about 10 different threads for android on the vogue, any specifics I should be looking for? I'm assuming this has the most up-to-date system files and that all the buttons work correctly as they do now (and also android 1.5)? Thanks again.

Matt
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mikeschevelle:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=79798&page=3

post 88
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mikeschevelle:
i would also say read the first post in that thread. it has a walkthrough of the build
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kr4zyc1d:
Thanks for the update. I will have to play with it. I have had android on my phone for a few months now playing with it and getting used to it, however the build that I got from that forum is a little messy (when it boots, it goes completely black, throughout the boot and once it is finished) So I will need to work on that and see what I can do to fix that. Thanks again for the help.

Matt
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
if your not getting your files from vogue-android then don't post problems in this thread. i recommend downloading the latest basefiles with the latest rootfs, zImage and ion system image and deleting your old data.img and letting the system create a new one. this ion build is the most stable and most tested build out. it's been untouched since august for that simple reason. also i'm not sure where people are getting the idea that you need a small sdcard for this. i have a 8GB class6 sdhc and i've never had any problems.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mikeschevelle:
I have to say the only thing I am not liking is the dialer not having smart dial. I HATE browsing through some 500 contacts. I have tried SmartDialer from the market place but it sucks
[Touch CDMA Android Development] ywjkid:
The smart dialer in acontacts from the market works for me.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mikeschevelle:
I will give that a try thanks
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mikeschevelle:
Wow MUCH better
[Touch CDMA Android Development] ruizit0:
im getting problems charging inside this last update...

it starts to charge.. but after some time it stops charging..

have to take of charger and insert again to star charging again.. and some times i have to wait some time.. weird hein ?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheB0rg:
I have an OKTA Touch and have successfully installed the latest Vilord Ion files but cannot get the data connection to work. I enable the Modem and it attempts to authenticate but within 1-2 secs it comes back with the error:

"Starting pppd...

Connection attempt FAILED!

Done!"

I don't see anywhere in the default.txt file where to put my Carrier's (Telecom NZ) credentials (or if this is the right place to put them?), and cannot find anywhere else in the Android settings where they could be configured either - Any ideas where I am going wrong? I have tried trolling through the forums without success :-(

Cheers,

TheB0rg
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
maybe in default.txt

change ppp.username and ppp.password
[Touch CDMA Android Development] ruizit0:
make a first call to anywhere anyone before connecting in modem... just to start the radio services :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheB0rg:
DOZ got back to me and mentioned the following steps:

In Android go to:

Settings...Wireless Controls...Mobile Networks...Access Point Names

And complete the Username and Password settings as per my Carrier. I did that and now it *seems* to authenticate (i.e. no feedback on the fail) but there is still no data access (www doesn't work) - Any other settings I might need to check / tweak / tick to get "outside"? When I reboot to Winmo I get my data back so it isn't a data plan issue...

Thanks in advance!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] LaZ3R:
Awesome, android up and running here :P

Is it just me or is the battery charge % screwed up and not displaying the correct amount?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] My-life:
No thats not just you. I had to same problem but I think I fixed it now.

I did the following: Delete the battery capacity file, shutdown your phone, attached the charger and wait till the LED indicates that the battery is fully charged. Leave the charger attached, startup WM and Android. Android now knows what the maximum battery capacity is. Now disconnect the charger and leave the phone on till it shutsdown by itself so it learns when it's out of power.

Above worked for me. I can leave my Kaiser uncharged for more then 2 days now :) .
[Touch CDMA Android Development] LaZ3R:
Oh cool, thank you :P, I'll try that next time then.

Also, is there no way of shutting down the network connection?? I find that I can't kill the connection and it's draining the battery if it's constantly on.

What I mean is, the equivalent of turning off "Data Connection" on WM.

Thanks.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] ruizit0:
my power button is damaged because the phone crashed in the floor:|

how can i set up another button to wake up ?

i can power off in the red call button.. but i have to wake it up in power button..

but in some release dont remember what one .. i was able to wake up phone in menu button...

but now i cant do it anymore hummm
[Touch CDMA Android Development] BJNK:
You should be able to hit your menu button - for me the down slider. Or by pressing the down part of the 4 way directional button, and sometimes the actual center 'enter' button of the 4way if I tap it a few times. Works for me anyways..
[Touch CDMA Android Development] KERKEDAGAIN:
whats this "battery capacity file"? n where do i find it to delete it?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheKartus:
I agree. Instructions please. :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] My-life:
I use the free app APNdroid, but let's don't get to much off-topic here.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] stickus:
Use the Modem app that is included and click the Disconnect button. has always worked for me... you will have to manually re-connect (using the same app and the connect button), but it works a treat :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
i think the battery capacity file is for kaiser users... I've certainly never heard of or seen one... my-life? confirm/deny?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
i havent seen one either it may be in the stored in the data.img... i havent looked though
[Touch CDMA Android Development] socram2k:
the battery capacity can be modify in default.txt, and in my(im using nike) default file im using the valor 1800
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
battery stats file is: "/data/system/batterystats.bin" and yes, what he posted is correct. Happened 3x this week and that works. On a Kaiser at least but it should be the same for Vogue. Someone check..

Okay, I got some info I thought I'd share here in case it helps the next person out:

How to go online with Android using your computer's connection (reverse tether) for slow or no data plans.

Use DroidEx to project your screen on your monitor @ 6fps choppy but it works very well. Can't figure out how to decompile it to up the frame rate though.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] stickus:
Trying this battery thing on my Vogue as we speak, will report back after battery is charged and drained...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
oh and one more which was the best thing since sliced bread:

Telnet via ADB so you can actually scroll through text and history
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
yea im going to give this one a shot sound believable to say the least...:p
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
Just throwing it out there that I just remove the batterystats.bin, reboot to Windows, notice battery says 0%, quickly replug the phone so it gets to 1% and let it charge. Then boot Android. All is well then
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
The battery on Vogue works in a completely different way to the battery on kaiser, Vogue doesn't use a batterystats file.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
.......damn lol:rolleyes: i was planning on trying that tonight.

what about an extended battery?? thats what i have.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] My-life:
In that case I'm sorry. I have a Kaiser also.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] stickus:
Yeah, after trying this out for a while, I'm not noticing any significant increase in battery life yet... i still get just short of a regular days usage (but I'm a big gTalk user, so I consume a lot of data).
[Touch CDMA Android Development] frad:
Just gave the latest build a try after a few months and all I can say is wow. I'm amazed at how much this project has progressed and just wanted to say thanks to all involved.

I've been getting envy over all the new android phones out there (the Droid specifically...still think its pretty sweet), but suddenly I can see myself staying with the Vogue for some time.

A quick question if I may: Does the Google Maps Navigation that comes with the Droid work on any version of Android other than 2.0? Basically is there a way to install that specific version of Google maps on our 1.5 Vogues? Thanks.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
just download it from the market... i think its only for donut tho, and we still need to fix gps for donut (and for nav)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] rttw.cn:
strange problem:when I tap the screen position(x,y),the android os get the (y,x) values,that means i must tap right-top area to a button which is on the left-bottom area, even the "calibration screen" program can not help,how can I fix this?