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[General Accessories] elektrownik:
If device have usb host, and you will write driver for it... almost impossible
[General Accessories] Schubidua:
Which HTC or other device has usb host?:confused:
[General Accessories] elektrownik:
I'm not sure my ipaq 214 have, htc athena also have, it need full usb host not only otg, htc dream have otg, upcoming htc thot should also have full host, dont know about other devices, maybe diamond or touch hd ?
[General Accessories] ronnzz:
maybe but its a usb?? i think its you have 35% possililty

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[General Accessories] Rudegar:
athena is the only wm device from htc I have verified got working usb host

and even with usb host a driver is required

of the makers of the dvb-t stick haven't made one

it could take years for people to reverse engineer

a pc driver to make a wm driver
[General Accessories] wovens:
I believe that if there are phones like this that are DVB-T enabled, it is because there is some sort of driver for it already. I agree that it would not be the exact same as connecting something via USB but at least we already have some sort of driver available for wi-mo devices; it would only need one of the great brains in here with enough interest in developing it further.
[General Accessories] shawankit:
Possible with SDIO

You can watch TV on your HTC , Instead of buying a USB DVT , You need to buy SDIO DVT ...

Some are available on ebay and other sites

examples :

http://www.eopstech.com/eops/pro3.jsp

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SDIO-TV-Tune...ItemQQimsxZ20090526?IMSfp=TL090526149001r7516
[General Accessories] Rudegar:
"but at least we already have some sort of driver available for wi-mo devices"

problem is that a driver is very very different depending on what interface

as the driver is talking to the interface not the chip directly

on a pc there is a world of difference between an usbTvcard and a pciTvcards driver
[Touch HD General] lancsuk:
can i have some help here please guys

i want to put my htc back to orange original rom so i have downloaded

RUU_BlackStone_Orange_UK_1.19.61.1

Restore_Stock_SPL_114_2.zip

the instructions say download original hardspl from the attachments in this post.

what one is the original hardspl

Unsigned_HardSPL_for_Blackstone_OliNex.zip (1.12 MB, 50348 views)

SSPL-Manual-TouchHD.zip (489.0 KB, 17522 views)

Restore_Stock_SPL_114_2.zip (132.7 KB, 16713 views)

Restore_Stock_SPL_113.zip (132.7 KB, 6350 views)

Restore_Stock_SPL_115.zip (133.0 KB, 6112 views)

HSPLWrapper_Blackstone_156OliNex.zip (1.12 MB, 19855 views)

RUU_Signed_Blackstone_stockSPL154.zip (132.8 KB, 6150 views)
[Touch HD General] HDuser:
I would think you should know what SPL you had on your device when you upgraded it (not many of us were with you at that time (grin)).

Best option is to check the available versions on WIKI, maybe somebody was nice enough to add the details of your shipped rom.

Best I can do for you.

PS if its 1.14 then you have the correct version.
[G1 General] silverchris:
Hello,

Is it possible to root the HTC Dream from rogers yet? I just purchased one yesterday and I am not sure if the procedure is the same as for the T-Mobile G1.

Thanks
[G1 General] Arcias:
I too would like more information on this. Thanks in advance.
[G1 General] BlackElvis79:
Dream...

I believe the Dream and the G1 are actually the same devices. So what you can do to one, should also apply to the other.
[G1 General] silverchris:
I am curious to try the G1 procedure, but I am wondering a few things... Biggest thing is if rogers would be using the same key to sign the updates? and second is if downgrading to rc29 would brick my phone.
[G1 General] TemporalShadows:
I wouldn't use the DREAIMG.NBH rooting procedure on the Rogers Dream. If I recall correctly, it includes a radio image (please correct me if I'm wrong). If that's the case, you wouldn't want to try to flash the radio from the G1 to your Rogers version that uses different frequencies.

I would venture a guess that the method Haykuro used to root the Sapphire would work, and should be safe to try even if it doesn't. Go here:

http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting

I got that from a post in the Sapphire forum here on XDA Developers.

The key is to flash the recovery image with the rooted recovery image. I don't know what difference there may be between the magic and dream recovery images - you may want to grab the modified recovery image specifically for the dream and use it instead of the one on the wiki page.

Wish I had a Rogers Dream so I could try it. If any of you with this handset try it, post the result here!
[G1 General] SpEnTBoY:
I'm wondering this too. I'm not new to flashing devices etc but THIS is all new to me lol ... I found more info on This page that also explains about the radio however, I'm not sure what all applies or how things change with the Rogers phone. The more I read the more confused I get. One site said follow the link above and you wont have any problems, another said dont follow the site in order but do the radio first then flash the SPL.

Can someone please confirm the steps required to root the Rogers phone and then flash haykuro's ROgers ROM please? I just dont want to brick my device if at all possible :D (not that anyone really wants to brick their phones).

THanks guys!!
[G1 General] silverchris:
I am going to see if I can boot any of the recovery images without flashing them. I read in a thread thats possible....
[G1 General] hellfenix:
None of the recovery images I've tried will boot on my device, Haykuro told me he's working on a solution with dream_kill to root this device.
[G1 General] silverchris:
So it can't be rooted yet?
[G1 General] evilpig:
Awwww I was hoping to put hero on
[G1 General] AlfaTrion:
ya we must be patient.

i don't do that so well :p
[G1 General] r4nd0mn4me:
the waiting game

I will be waiting as well. Though as soon as the US rooting procedure failed for me, I felt like Rogers had just bent me over and shoved a big rusty sand covered......you get the idea. Was it not enough to put Rogers logos all over the phone, but you had to take away our rooting ability's as well? How sad. But I like the phone too much to take it back :( Oh well, wait and hope for the best :)

All you guys (and girls) working on this, you totally rock!
[G1 General] Bedeadu:
Well, guess we're all in the same boat. I have been reading some of the other threads though, seems like maxawesome, has the Rogers Dream version, and had success rooting and flashing a few days ago, maybe he could share? Looks as though he is the first and possibly only to get root so far for rogers. I tried sending a pm to him, but not sure it went through. You should try, he has some posts in the "rogers rom" thread, just doesn't indicate which SPL version he ended up using.
[G1 General] bernZ:
I'm in the same boat as everyone else. Lets just hope we get to rooting our phones soon!
[G1 General] kaninabu:
Just a suggestion: Perhaps you Canadians can try the goldcard method used for non-US/UK Dreams described in the following thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=485364

EDIT: Sorry, I forgot that the updated SPL may cause bricking when the older radio is used. Please disregard this post!
[G1 General] lbcoder:
Wasn't it just the haykuro modified spl that caused bricking? Of course, there is more to the radio on this device, even if it doesn't brick it, may result in a non-functional radio (until the correct radio is put back).
[G1 General] r4nd0mn4me:
Work in progress

I see haykuro is working on it here

More waiting and searching.
[G1 General] outsider787:
Any other updates on where haykuro (or anyone else working on this) is at?
[G1 General] aggtrfrad:
i think haykuro is looking for a device but its still hard to find in USA.
[G1 General] SpEnTBoY:
hrmmm ... wonder if we can put a call out and some extremely generous Canadian can send one to him :D ... seriously if I had a way to get my hand on another one without having to fork out $700 I'd totally contribute a phone
[G1 General] SpEnTBoY:
Ok back on topic ... Go Haykuro!!! (whenever you get said hardware). I've never been so excited to have someone ELSE get hardware ... ever lol :D:D
[G1 General] r4nd0mn4me:
Tethering policy

Sorry to change the subject, but I just got off the phone with a lovely young Rogers representatave in regards to this news release. *she asked for my number but I have a feeling I won't hear from her :( *

http://www.androidincanada.ca/news/new-tethering-policy-for-rogers-and-fido/

Rogers site here.

http://www.rogers.com/web/content/w...mer_Wireless_Eng-_-Tethering_0609-_-tethering

So I called up and had the "tethering" feature added to my plan at no charge as it is available "free" for all smart phone accounts with data plans one GB or higher. She could not help me with the fact that my phone can not tether, but we are working on that end. Though I wonder if we bugged them enough, if they would give us a root free tethering app...

No word yet as to how much this feture will cost after the interm perioud is up. At least this will allow us to test and see how much we really use it, though it sounds like a cash grab to me. I won't mind if it is like an extra $5, but any more would be pushing it if you ask me. Glad to hear they are at least willing to charge us for it rather than prohibiting and penalizing us.

Wow, this is the first time I have posted here on something other than my phone... feels weird.
[G1 General] nostriluu:
Kudos on your initiative, have been meaning to contact them to inquire but have been flooded with work. My reading was it is automatically available to anyone who takes on a plan before December 31, forever, with no extra fees, and we don't need to have anything added to your account. I suppose I will have to call to make sure, for what it's worth.

As for the tethering without root access, I don't think Rogers is in the software development business, so unless you're running a non locked down Windows box and can thus use PDANet, root access would be our best bet.
[G1 General] SpEnTBoY:
Potentially what this could open up is the viability of a dev team to engineer a non platform specific application not unlike PDANet. Right now I think dev's would see it not as a viable option because there is a limited market ... knowing Rogers would open the ability (before we take it anyway) to tether, might make some dev people take notice and try to write a different app to do so.

Personally I like the direct approach ... get root, treat the device as a WAP, done. :D
[G1 General] i<3andr0id:
I have so many questions...

Is this true that the phone actually dials out and becomes a modem when you tether? I had a samsung jack and it actually had an option on the phone to share its data connection. You use the proprietary cable that plugs into the phone then terminates in a male USB to hook up to the computer you want to have on the net through the phones data connection. After you install MS sync software it allows you to share the data connection. Is this not considered tethering or AC's external modem mention just messing up my idea of what tether is?

How are they going to enforce this new tethering cost? I mean, are they going to look at your data usage and say "hey, you must be tethering because you're using too much data"? Can the service providers really tell if you're using your data on the phone or on tether other than by the amount that you use? If the amount is the only way, isn't there plausible deniability in that you could say you watching a movie (streaming) and that's what you like to do with your data? (I think having to pay for tether is stupid, you already pay for the data, and now you have to pay for it again depending on how you use it. It's all the same bucket...)

thought about this one for a minute... i guess they could look at your data usage, or have it implimented in their system that when you reach X speed for Z period of prolonged DL/UL that they'll just throttle your usage, or automagically bill you for tethering. Still, Plausible Deniability? "I own no tv! i stream everything onto my little screen!" hehehe

Is there a difference between tethering and using your phone as a wireless router (the way the HTC Dream/G1 can after root)? Or is the HTC dream/G1 special because it's the only phone that can become a wireless router that you can connect to in a hotspot like fashion and share the data connection?

Can anyone answer any of these questions?

did I just type all that for nothing? (hahaha...)

And finally, THANK YOU AC FOR DRIVING! Next time I'm in Niagara I owe you a beer.
[G1 General] jonnyczi:
Rooting and Unlocking

I'm switching from the iphone to the dream. I know that rooting is just like jailbreaking an iphone gaining access to the root account of the phone. Unlocking requires jailbreaking but does unlocking on dream require rooting? I'm with fido and plan to stay there and take their unadvertised $30 6gb plan that allows tethering and non-fido phones. Thing is that I don't know when it expires and its probably july first just like the rogers one. Should I just get it even if there is no such unlock yet cause I don't know if it will actually happen but Im sure it will. I gotta donate to the guy who does (I forgot his name) :confused:
[G1 General] Capt Fiero:
As far as I know, you can use a Dream from Rogers on Fido. I have had the 6gb $30 plan from rogers for about a year, and never had an issue with tethering on my old HTC Tytn or my wifes HTC Touch and HTC Diamond.
[G1 General] jonnyczi:
Thats odd. I would think that even tho they are the same company they would still not let one phone work on the other.
[G1 General] aggtrfrad:
after some more research i did, i believe the only way to get charged for tethering is by using an app like PdaNet witch dials a code for some reason (not sure why), or going beyond your limit per month (which is obvious but dump people are blaming it on tethering). If you are using a NAT kind of app, like "tethering for root" for android, you wont get charged...
[G1 General] SpEnTBoY:
Read my Wiki on tethering for a specific carrier. The number is typically just a register mechanism to officially get on the network through a modem (in this case it acts as a USB modem). I believe you are correct however on how they would bill.

If the device, however, is acting as a router (or even a transparent bridge or gateway/WAP) the traffic looks no different than regular IP traffic the phone is already generating on the network. The only way they could _kind of_ validate you were tethering is all circumstantial (higher volume of traffic or something).

I just want the option to do it. I may or may not use it often, but I paid for the hardware and would love to actually feel like I own it and not have my 'hand held'. That being said I don't have the resources or experience to figure out how to root it myself ... and I have every confidence in haykuro and am much happier helping out someone smarter to do it LOL

:D:D

--

Got Root? .... everywhere but my phone ... soon .... soon
[G1 General] i<3andr0id:
I'm on fido and i'm using a dream. Didnt need to unlock it. As for the 6 gig plan... are you sure? I called and they arent offering it. If they are, and youre sure, i'm calling in again.

Root does not mean sim-unlocked. If you want to sim unlock you need a sim from another carrier other than rogers or fido and boot phone with it in phone. The phone will ask for sim unlock imei code. You can get it from various unlock sites.

This is the best i could get from them:

$75 per month

200 min anytime

Ulm evening and weekend 7pm

Fido to fido free (gf is my most called and she's on fido)

3 gb data

Voice mail + call display + call waiting

2,500 txt msg
[G1 General] Capt Fiero:
I know for a fact, Rogers has a promo 6gb of Data for $30 I don't think I have ever heard of a 30gig deal, not sure if it was just a typo in your post?
[G1 General] AverageCanadian:
I'm just going from memory from forums I read. I'll try to find some links tomorrow. I assuem if the phone can be rooted and turned into a hotspot via wifi then there is no way to tell if it's a tether. However if you're hooked up via usb cable I believe the phone is treated as a instead of just a wifi spot.

Make that rum and it's a deal.
[G1 General] AverageCanadian:
did you get that through retentions? I was able to negotiate

250 mins

100 mins ld

unlimted after 6

2500 text

voicemail

call display

6 gigs of data

$64 + tax and that includes S.A.F. and E911 fee.
[G1 General] i<3andr0id:
Man... that's good. I went through retention. Would love that plan + f 2 f for 64. I'm calling tomorrow and asking for that. I wonder if i'll have any success. =(
[G1 General] i<3andr0id:
I think you mis-read. It says 3 GB. :) 30 would be AWWWWWWWWWESOME.

EDIT: I see where it says 30. oops. lol. I was trying to say 6 in response to the other post. I called fido and asked for 6 gigs about 2 days after the dream launched on rogers.
[G1 General] AverageCanadian:
If you take a look at RFD(redflagdeals) there is a huge thread on retention deals. Some people have done better than me, getting an extra 200 minutes and unlimted incoming. I tried for more minutes but the girl wouldn't budge. However she didnt' eve know the 6 gig plan was back so I really should have called back but at the time the plan was under my moms name and she was getting annoyed autherizing herself so I could try and negotiate a deal.
[G1 General] r4nd0mn4me:
Should we make a new thread about plans and teathering?

I recall somthing from the iPhone release last year about Rogers discontinuing the 6GB plan due to its subscribers not useing the full amount.

Should we watch our data "tethering" or otherwise, and max out my plan every month, then argue that it is not enough for daily use? And by the sounds of it, we have until December to find out if and or how Rogers can tell if we are tethering.
[G1 General] i<3andr0id:
I think we should make a new thread about ROGERS/FIDO Tethering and Plans. Maybe one of the mods can move some the posts over if he/she feels so kind? It is getting a bit messy in here...
[G1 General] r4nd0mn4me:
Rogers on the phone

Ok, so it had been about half an hour since I got tethering placed on my account and I got a call from Rogers asking if I had a moment for them to look over my plan with me. He said I could save money with a different plan, and went on to offer a 500MB plan as I had only used about 150kb of data. * grossly underestmated my my count*

I found it weiard that they would try to offer me a plan that tethering would not work on after I called in and specifically asked for it to be added to my package.

I informed him that I had the plan that I wanted at the moment and the lack of usage was mainly due to my trying to keep the usage to a minimum during the "buyers remorse period", my use of Wi-Fi, and working 48hrs in the last four days.

Sounds fishy to me...

Also my phone just restarted for no reason, it was just lying there while I was looking up apps on my laptop. Maybe it's just too late and I'm getting paranoid.
[G1 General] r4nd0mn4me:
Testing the tether...this post was posted while teathering.

Ok so I just had to see what this tethering is all about.

I just ran a speed test from speakeasy and here are the results.

Last Result:

Download Speed: 197 kbps (24.6 KB/sec transfer rate)

Upload Speed: 45 kbps (5.6 KB/sec transfer rate)

This was with signal strength of three out of seven bars from my house. I must say page loading seems much faster than on my phone...though not nearly fast enough to watch Youtube with.

And before I get mass mails about how I did it....well, I cheated :D

I popped my Rogers sim into my Nokia N95-8GB and used the built in USB tethering app. :cool:

I can't wait for ze roots!Oh and apparently this wont work
[G1 General] Capt Fiero:
Your area or the N95 must not support HSDPA, I was getting downloads of 280kBps, (2240kbps) and that was at my house, which acully has poor signal.
[G1 General] i<3andr0id:
I'd love to use my dream's data connection as hotspot for my xbox 360. I wonder if it could handle it without killing my radio.
[G1 General] ExTREmE99:
HTC Magic Rogers on at&t usa

Firmware Version:

1.5

Baseband Version:

62.525.20.18U_3.22.20.17

Kernel Version:

2.6.27-dd63d1eb

u70000@Android-X01 )

Build Number:

2.16.631.6.146733 CL#33776 release-keys

Sapphire PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H

HBOOT- 1.33.0009 (SAPP40000)

CPLD-12

Radio-3.22.20.17

May 8,2009,21:02:32
[G1 General] Capt Fiero:
What I am really waiting for, is when the phone can actually become a Wifi HotSpot, I'll set my HTC Hermes to use the Wifi from the Dream, and that way I can still use to Hermes for Email and Google Maps with TomTom software.

Anyone know if there is any way to share the Dreams GPS over blue tooth. As of right now I have to carry the Blue tooth module for the Hermes with me, it would be really slick if I could get the Hermes to sync with the Dream over blue tooth and use the Dreams GPS on the Hermes.
[G1 General] SpEnTBoY:
Mine was close to this as well:

2530.4kbps down

198.5kbps up

I just used Xtremelabs Speed Test directly from the phone (Market app)

:D
[G1 General] anthrax704:
Well I've been looking over these forums ever since I got my HTC Dream from Rogers, and I can see that tethering is a problem. Well, I found this neat program/app that might fix the issue. http://www.junefabrics.com/android/index.php

I've installed it on my laptop and tethered my phone to it with a *touch* of a button. It's free to try and 29 to buy. So until us Canadians get root, we can use this for now :D

(GO HAYKURO!!)
[G1 General] nostriluu:
Hi anthrax704,

Just a note, as has already been discussed, this program is only useful for "us Canadians" who are running Windows, there's no version available for Mac or Linux. So it's no real solution. The best solution would be for a rooted device. GO HAYKURO!!
[G1 General] XwXDv8XwX:
Why has this thread changed subjects from Haykuros progress and getting him a phone to the legality and ability to tether? lol
[G1 General] esmith:
My thoughts exactly.
[G1 General] i<3andr0id:
Someone suggested starting another thread for tethering, but really, who cares. We are all just biding our time until H gets the rogers dream.
[G1 General] SpEnTBoY:
... because that was one of the reasons people wanted a rooted device in the first place ;) then it was mentioned that you don't need root to do it and ... fork()

:)
[G1 General] esmith:
Thanks for the advice...

Obviously at least two people cared...

Anyone want to talk about free apps vs paid apps? or what's the best ones you have used? how about screen protectors or cases?

I KNOW it's OFF topic but who cares?... right.
[G1 General] i<3andr0id:
yea, only someone who was really anal would care. lets discuss.
[G1 General] XwXDv8XwX:
Let's not and say we did. It's recess time anyways!
[G1 General] esmith:
I understand you have been a member here for almost one full month now but as someone who has been here and anyone else can tell you people usually try to keep things on topic on the forums here.

So I guess this board is full of a lot of "anal" people as you suggest...

Welcome to the board! Try to enjoy the rest of the month...
[G1 General] XwXDv8XwX:
Like I said....let's not discuss this. It's really not a big deal, but I do feel I started this so I must state I am really don't care that much about the whole thing. I only mentioned it because I got banned for making a post about me just getting my G1 and was banned for useless posts for 3 days and I was only waiting to see the progress on rooting rogers G1's. So when I come and check for info about that and each post is about tethering (which is cool nonetheless) but doesn't apply to me because I only have 500mb per month of data so it's a dissapointment to not read that Haykuro had recieved the phone and has started tinkering around. The posts that have been posted haven't been "useless" because I been interested to learn about that topic. Anyways...I'm not sure where exactly I am going with this but no fighting is needed over the subject ;)
[G1 General] esmith:
Agreed.

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