yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD General] mr london:
Hello, i need the above, but dont want to order from internet, i live in London,

can i get one from "orange" what have you got? thanks.

Paul.
[Touch HD General] playdo:
Why don't you order it from the internet?

There is a nice holder in the Brando Shop and it only cost 3$ shipping worldwide. I ordered mine yesterday :)

But if you have reasons not to buy from the internet, go to your next big media store and ask for it ;)

greetz

playdo
[Touch HD General] mr london:
Because im a wanted man! haha, serious i just want it now if you know what i mean, is the one you ordered a proper HTC one or a Universal one?

Paul. (sorry didnt go on that link, thats nice). cheers mate.
[Touch HD General] Roadrunner100:
I had a holder for a while - vacuum attachment. The thing was bobbing around so much while driving that I got rid of the bleeder. I now use Velcro to attach the phone to the dashboard, in a much better position next to an air vent, within reach of my fingers, while my palm is still on the wheel. Works a treat.

Hit Boots, get a strip for less than two quid. ;)
[Touch HD General] garyjmobey:
might be an idea to check the blackstone accessories forum

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=454
[Touch HD General] mr london:
Yes roadrunner i agree my sat-nav is a vacuumed holder and thats fallen off a couple of times! so you have velcro on back of phone? that what you mean?

Paul.
[Touch HD General] playdo:
Hmm I used a vacuumed holder for about 2 years with my Tytn and it has never fallen off.

Maybe u should clean your car more properly ;)

But like i said, its possible that the holder i mentioned vibrates if you drive "rough"
[Touch HD General] mr london:
hahahaha, clean car, drive more smoothly, yeaa i can do it.

Paul:D
[Touch HD General] Roadrunner100:
Yeah, I have Velcro on the back of the phone and on the dash.

The Vacuum isn't the issue, it never dropped, the holder tended to vibrate and bob around.

@playdo

"But like i said, its possible that the holder i mentioned vibrates if you drive "rough"

Never rough mate, I bend the speedo needle very smoothly...
[General Topics] thetiltedKaiser:
Posting this in general, because I think it would be related to any phone with a dpad.

Does an app exist that allows remapping of the dpad functions (e.g.; up,down,left,right,center) to numeric functions (or arbitrary functions for that matter) ?

Search yields this:
Remap Softkey and volume button
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=256525

But I'm having trouble downloading it to test.

The idea is to use the dpad to:

-Unlock the phone via pin

-Dial a number

-Do other things where numbers are needed (concept pics attached)

All one handedly and/or without looking at the device.

Any guidance/comments welcome
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RMU:
I've got a new problem with my pro2.

It seems that when i'm getting a textmessage and i write an answer... in the little box down the window you see on this picture: [click for image of window]...

it will send.. no problem... (to the phonenumber: +31612345678, thats good)

but when i then send another textmessage to the same person again, in the same box as earlier, and i don't got an answer yet the pro2 shows that the message is send, but when i look at the phonenumber its changed automatic. it must be +31612345678 but then it is 31612345678 without the +... so the message is not send...

how can i solve this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] quarintus:
NOt a real solution, but dial two zero's "00" instead of the + sign. Though it should work with the + character
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Sjuust:
Same here! I was wondering why I didn't get a reply from the message I thought I was sending...now it's obvious.

Need a hotfix FAST!

As a business user this is totally unacceptable!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RMU:
I don't think that will help, and i'm not going to change all my phonenumbers, because the + caracter must work to.

i'll try later this day with one person.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] beast0898:
Have you checked that your locale is set correctly and not on the shipped default (which is usualy US)

Cheers,

Beasty
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RMU:
No not done yet,

Where can i check that?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] beast0898:
Start / Settings / System / Regional Settings.

Cheers,

Beasty
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RMU:
Hmm, that's all ok. So that don't caused the problem... any more solutions anyone?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] quarintus:
The contact manager has an option to auto set the phone number.

If I (still my hermes for now) add this number 0612345678 my contact manager makes it: +31612345678

Maybe it's something with this settings of auto managing the number format. Don't give this solution much chance though
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mika34:
Hi i'm xperia user, with a rhodium ROM, the newest one Build 21051.1.6.4, and we (all users) have this same problem too. Even in prevorius rom version i had problem with it. The problem is in HTC roms. I think u neet to wait for a update.

Or u can ask user name Smaberg, i heart that hi solved this problem, but hi had to change some entries.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RMU:
Thanks, i've send smaberg a private message. hopefully he knows the answer. strange problem!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Hamburg:
Your buddy John might appreciate it if you edit your original message to remove his direct number from the forum. ;)

EDIT: Hah! I'm dumb. I just noticed that it was a dummy number! I'll shut up now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] quarintus:
Hahahahaa, youre funny :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RMU:
hmm not found a solution yet! :(... anyone else maybe?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RMU:
Ah! i've got a reaction of smaberg! :D (It's for the X1 officially but i think/hope it will work to on the TP2, because it are both WM phones...) but i can not test it now...

my plan is to test it somewhere tomorrow (sunday)... i will post the results, and the answer here if i know more! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RMU:
i've tested it, but the problem is still there. :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Prille:
I still have the same issue as well, weird no solution is available huh...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RMU:
I've added a poll :) let's see how many people there are with the problem :P
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] AlCapone:
you should notify HTC support - they really DO read the messages they get - describe it good, and you will get response.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RMU:
How can i contact them? there website is not very clear about that :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] AlCapone:
easy, look around -

http://www.htc.com/uk/CS_Mail.aspx

maybe you will prefer another country/region..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RMU:
ahh okay thanks, maybe i will send them a message :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RMU:
Okay, done, in dutch :)

more people that are going to mail HTC?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gingerprince:
I did yesterday, and got a reply today "This issue that you have raised is unknow to us. Let me do some testing with our handsets to see if we can Replicate the issue that you are having. We shall get back to you ASAP with the results.".

I guess not many people actually contacted them.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RMU:
The same sort of reply i get :) but then in dutch :)

and they had a few questions for me, and i've mailed them back thursday but nothing back yet... lets wait :rolleyes:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] LinoX:
Just called HTC support by phone.

They took three days trying to understand WHAT the problem is (and they didn't reproduce it).

They suggested me to soft reset.. to hard reset.. to send the phone to repair.. (obviously the repair center CAN'T repair the problem because there's no software update for touchflo at the moment)

At the end I sent them an email with two links here..hoping they'll be able to AT LEAST REPLICATE the problem.

Sorry to say but I'm NOT SATISFIED about customer support.

I bought an HIGH END phone!!

I should have high quality support and an high quality product..

..and among others they answered "are you missing the question mark on the hardware keyboard? than use the symbol panel!"

you dumb!! do you know ANY world language without the question mark???

do you think it's more important for me to type the "#" with the hardware keyboard?? YOU STUPID! why did you replace FN+M with "#"???

I really would like to have a talk with the dumbass HTC engineer that made that keyboard layout!!

YOU DORK!!!

(@ everyone...sorry for the rant..)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Delete4Ever:
anyone encounter this here?

when using the phonepad input to type sms, after i type finish a word, sometimes, the last 2 or 3 alphabet will appear underlines, eg, 'underline'. When this happens, the space button will not work no matter how i press it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] PIR3lly:
Hey guys!

I've noticed the exact same problem on my phone!

It's a Dutch TP2, so maybe it's got to do something with the dutch version.

I'll try to email htc with my problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ronh:
No problems here, sending and receiving is working fine.

Also twice sending from the line you showed on your picture in the first post.

Bought in the Netherlands, WWE edition.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RMU:
hmm... all phone numbers on your phone start with a + ?

and are you sure the contact has received the message? because, in the touchflo interface all looks normal but it's not always sent ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] PIR3lly:
I've made a screenshot to illustrate the problem a bit more:

In the first screenshot you see the text messages in tf3d. A "message" is send by someone to the phone, then an "answer 1" is send by me ("ik" in dutch), followed by an "answer 2". In this first screen it looks all normal.

The second screen shows the standard windows mobile window, where it also looks normal.

The third screen shows the send items. You can see that "answer 1" was send to the correct number starting with +31. However "answer 2" was send to the wrong one, where the + is missing. If I send more messages, they all miss the +. These messages are not received by the original sender.

This is clearly a problem that has to be solved. I use my phone in foreign countries a lot and therefore need the numbers starting with their country code.

(the names and numbers have been changed to protect the innocent)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rbroudo:
Same here :-(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RMU:
Good job! :D that's the problem!

When you get an answer back of THAT SAME contact, then you can send ONE message again ;) but if you send more then the problem is back.

And it only happends when sent through the touchflo interface seen on the first screenshot! :) i've tested sending with the windows interface as well and that works perfect! but looks ugly... :p

Maybe contact HTC? i've done that to but they say nobody has the same problem yet... i think they fix it faster if more people let them know they are having the problem. http://www.htc.com/nl/CS_Mail.aspx (Dutch)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] skycamefalling:
I had the same problem about 4 times since I bought the TP2 two weeks ago.

I'm in Austria with an unbranded German ROM
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] PIR3lly:
I've already send HTC an email with the problem and the above posted screenshot. Hope they'll fix it soon.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ronh:
Tested it once more.

I also have a sent message that's missing the + in front of the number.

But it was received and made several text messages back and forth.

So on my Dutch WWE TP2 I can't produce this problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] PIR3lly:
That's rather strange. Cause if it's missing the +, it's sending it to a number in your country starting with the numbers behind the + and not to the number behind the country code.

But yours is a WWE and not the dutch version. Could be that the WWE versions are good and other languages are not.

Still waiting for a response from HTC.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gingerprince:
Mine is a UK model and I have the same issue, so it's not isolated to Dutch devices.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ronh:
I know, it's really strange!

But I just checked it again, and that SMS was received by my wife.

No problem what so ever with sending/receiving SMS on my TP2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] da-vid:
I bought my Touch Pro2 three days ago, and I have this issue. I'm in Singapore.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] da-vid:
Hey guys, I found the problem for me. After doing a manufacturer reset, I installed every application one at a time and tested for this issue after each one. The problem started after installing AEButton Plus.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] skycamefalling:
I have the problem and never installed AEButton. Even after a hardreset the issue still persists. Just hope that a firmware update will solve this.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] PIR3lly:
Same here, I don't have that program installed.

Happened on a fresh phone.

Still no answer from HTC though...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] AlbioB:
Same here, Italian default unbranded ROM.

I never installed AEButton Plus.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Rockhound53:
Hi Guys,

i am from Germany and a have the same Bug with the unbranded TouchPro 2!

Hope they will fix it!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Brainio:
I had the same problem on my unlocked uk phone. I have changed all the numbers in my contacts list to +44 instead of beginning with 0 and have not had the problem since. I had the problem daily but since doing this it is now 5 days problem free.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] nlhall:
I'll give this a go, but it happens even if the contact is not saved in your phone book.

I logged a call with HTC almost 3 weeks ago and they have just closed the call without a resolution so I have just opened another one.

The problem is defiantly caused when you use the TF3D message treading and reply to the same message twice in a row.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Rockhound53:
All my Numers are with +49, so this is not a way to fix the problem...

I don't change anything, but the last 5 days the bug doesn't came on the Phone...

Crazy...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] variosteph:
same problem here, i can´t send messages from the tf3d messaging-window

+ i always get the Message:

"this message could not be sent because the sms feature is not enabled by your provider..."

from the "normal" messaging center messages could be sent without problems..:confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] variosteph:
ok, very strange, problem is gone...:confused:

hard-reset and DON`T import sim-contacts on first start...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] :
same thing here too.

I tried saving my contacts both with and without country code (+39 for Italy), nothing changed. very annoying thing on such a high-end phone. It's my main work "tool", and I can't fully rely on it??

I hope HTC will release a hotfix soon... diamond2 should have got already 2 or 3 of these fies right?? so maybe it will soon be our turn!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Farsquidge:
Think I have tied it down to TF3D not handling Outlook synced contacts correctly.

If the contact is inputted directly from the TF3D (phone) with +XXX YYY then they are handled correctly. If it is a contact that has been transferred from a PC ( Outlook sync) with "+" TF3D does not recognise the "+" for some reason, probably due to a missing or incorrect character code associated with "+".

Try this, if you are having problems with a certain contact, edit the contact on the phone from TF3D people. Remove the "+", save then edit again and replace the "+".

Bit of a pain but it seems to work. The next time you sync all will be as normal.

It is defo a TF3D problem as immediate replies show the contact name but cold replies (ie just replying to an old message) show the persons number in the "To" field, not the contact name, so when it runs the number/contact comparison lookup, a code difference must exist and it returns with no match of contact name.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] PIR3lly:
I tried your trick by removing the +, saving, then adding it again.

Unfortunately it did not work. If I send two messages right after each other in tf3d, the plus is still removed on the second one (I go to the send box in windows mobile to see this).

I think I'll now just have to live with it. Been in contact with HTC and they said they couldn't reproduce it. I even mentioned there were more people with the same problem, but no luck...

Don't wanna hard reset again because of all the work, but I might just wait till the windows mobile 6.5 update comes along. Hope it fixes it then.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DeepDay:
I have to say that HTC sux on support.

We bought a very expensive phone, and have to live with this bug? unbelievable....:confused::mad:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] PIR3lly:
Everybody that has this bug should write to HTC.

If you don't, there will only be a few complaints and HTC will think it's a user error. But if more complaints come in and it's reported as a bug, HTC might just do something about it (and maybe even release a new version of tf3d).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] monkeyturnip:
any news on this, im going to email them tomorrow, anyone fancy puttingup their call/email log number from htc so that they can start linking similar calls showing that it is an issue
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] simnl:
I got the same problem, and it gets really annoying after a while:mad:

Email to HTC-support has just been sent, so I hope there is a fix soon...

EDIT: Also discovered it removes the '00' if the contact number starts with that.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RMU:
My "Question Activity ID" is 09NLCW25NLA000130 ;) but that's closed already because they don't know the answer.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gingerprince:
Mine was 09UKCW25ENA000182 but again closed!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] PIR3lly:
Ok, so how can someone else view these question activity id's???
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gingerprince:
They can't. They're for "monkeyturnip" to pass to HTC to say "look feckers, loads of people have this same problem - do something about it!"
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] simnl:
I sent a complaint to HTC, and they sent me back this(in dutch):

I'm too tired now to translate it to english( http://babelfish.altavista.com :p ), but they say more people reported the bug, they only don't know if it is a WM bug or TouchFlow bug, and to find out I have to do a hard reset and stuff. I'm going to do that tomorrow and send a reply, but first I want some sleep :p.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] PIR3lly:
Hey, that's good news. At least they confirm more people have the problem and they are willing to test things out..

I'd love to test this as well, but I can't be bothered to do a complete reinstall at this moment. However, if it would help others, I might do it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] madlib:
Quick translation of the reply simnl got,

First of all thank you for the clarifying screenshot. I have discussed this problem internally and it seems that a few aspects of this issue are already known. As of yet we do not know if it is a bug in the software, Windows or in the TouchFlo system. We have yet to rule this out. What I would recommend to do is to do a Hard Reset on your device. By doing this all the data on the internal memory will be erased and Windows will be reinstalled. Without restoring a backup or installing any other programs I advise you to test directly again after the Hard Reset to see if the problem persists. Also do not import any contacts unless they are already on the SIM card. If you already have contacts on the SIM card I advise you to delete 1 contact BEFORE the Hard Reset to test with AFTER the Hard Reset. Manually add this contact after the Hard Reset and test it with this contact. If the problem is then solved then it would seem to be a software bug in the device and would be solved by doing this. If the problem still persists then I ask you to contact us again and then this problem will have to be passed on to HTC’s head office, so that they can investigate this.

I hope I have informed you enough.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] GroteBozewolf:
Well, I have a TD2 (UK) version and I cannot say it otherwise: contacts and in TouchFlo 3D just doesn't work! I have a lot of problems:

I have a lot of contacts with multiple mobile numbers. One private, one for work. These things then go wrong:

* Reply-ing an SMS: it always replies to the mobile number, even if the original SMS came from the work number. When I use the Microsoft interface, it does send it to the number the sms originated from. -> TouchFlo is broken

* When I select a contact and select the work number, it just dials the mobile number! So I cannot dial the other number. When I use the Microsoft contact interface, I dial the one I select. -> TouchFlo is broken

* When a contact has multiple non mobile number, the same behavior occurs: it always dials the home number, even if another not mobile number is selected.

* because of the previouse 2 issues, the redial in my car (bleutooth) does not work either.

Dialing a correct number is very essential for a phone, so I consider this as show-stopping (IT jargon for: we can't ship the software if the bug is not solved) bug that needs fixing immediately.

Same goes for the dissappearing 0. It just should not have.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] challenger150:
Same stuff here

Same thing. When sending, it removes + sign and SMS central notifies me that I'm trying to send an SMS to number that doesn't exist.

Send an e-mail to HTC, no reply yet.

Will they fix this?

For now, I'm not using the TF3D application to write messages twice to thesame number but I press on left (ALL MESSAGES) and write the message again. Then, everything works fine. I can send several messages to thesame number.

Finally, I also noticed that when I write very long message, it is not delivered.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] GroteBozewolf:
For me the problem is cause by the brackets that er in the numbers: +31 (6) 12345678. Apparently, TouchFlo cannot handle the brackets
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] PIR3lly:
I'm not using the brackets and the problem is still there.:(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] GroteBozewolf:
the same goes for spaces and dashes (-)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] matech:
Glad I found this thread. Got my TP2 6 days ago & thought I was going mad!

I've got a UK HTC TP2 via MobilePhonesDirect on T-Mobile. My contacts have been imported from Outlook. All my mobile numbers are of the form 07123 123456 (haven't typed them in using + and country code).

I've been having intermittent problems sending txts and the last two mornings I've had this txt back from the network:

Network§Msg (10:03):

Yesterday you sent a message to an invalid number. UK mobile numbers start with 07 or +447. Numbers starting 447 without the leading + are invalid.

This will tally with all numbers being stored using the country code and the "+" being dropped off as described in this thread! I've been using the TF3D interface as well as the standard threaded SMS window to reply. I've updated the poll & will stick to the threaded SMS window until this is fixed ...

:(