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[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Goose4all:
man.. you all just don't get the point...

why in the world tuxhero doesnt just check the %(/% in, into his own github. that others can help as well!? thats the only freaking thing the complainers complain about.

but this gets ignored completely by tuxhero...

it is no questsion that it takes time.. even if it takes years. noone said anything about that. its the lack of progress made public we criticize.

most of the complainers just wanted to support the development as tuxhero himself was asking for help. but they got no chance at all..

sending emails and asking for the code.. c'mon.. thats bull****.. we live in the 21st century, there's things like good old cvs, subversion and git. they are there for a reason...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] andes83:
Well I guess things turned out for te worst my only hope is that tuxhero really continues with his project and gets it done to show that his actions are a lot more important than to just talk about it in the xda forum.Maybe when he's on his own and not having to explain his work things will develop a lot quicker.I'm keeping fingers crossed tha in a couple of months we will see Android up and runing on our precious HD's.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] pLUSpISTOL:
Why do people insist on posting rubbish? Just encourage the dev!

Oh well, what is tuxhero's website so I can follow his progress?

Is there any other people/teams working on an Android port?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
Read the first sentence in Goose4all's post, thats why.

Here is tuxheros homepage http://abimanyu.in

The new Android-page is not up yet, I wouldnt hold my breath on that.

Allthough it looks like you should mail him so he can give you the updates through mail, sounds very practical and not time-consuming at all compared to posting it once on a forum or webpage.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] purec0de:
well i hope everyones happy he has gone from this forum now...

[sarcasm]

good old cyber bullying it seems.

and i thought XDA was supposed to be a COMMUNITY i.e. supportive & helpful to each other.

no-one ever actually verified Tux's integrity ... this kind of project takes time..and patience!!!!!

now he's been witch hunted away.

hope everyone proud! :mad: :confused: :mad:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daniel.hunt:
Don't be ridiculous. This isn't a witch hunt, it's people looking for transparency in a project that's supposed to be a community effort.

What bothers me most about all this is the blind faith shown by people willing to follow tuxhero to the ends of the earth with little or nothing to show for it.

I don't doubt he's good at what he does, mainly because I couldn't prove otherwise - even if given the sourcecode myself. But that doesn't mean I can sit here and sing his praises from the rooftop simply because he happens to be working on a project I would really like to see be a success.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] FabianNL:
But what are the costs of 'following tuxhero to the ends of the earth?"? Nothing... I just live my life and check this thread (and the rest of XDA) when I have some free time. If tuxhero posted some progress, then that's nice to read. If he posted anything, I just went on with checking other threads. So yes, call me stupid and blind by 'following tuxhero to the end' :confused:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sbibif:
well tuxhero i don't post much on xda only thing and advice i could give you is: you continue your work , take the helps proposed answer technical questions if any , and if you like shareyour work only in final ! the world is not neat nor dirty , it is both at the same time!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Goose4all:
it would be better if you would actually read "our" posts...

noone is hunting anybody..

once again.. in a short story (my comments in brackets)

everybody wants andorid on blackstone. (me too)

there was a development team built and they stopped it (for whatever reason).

long time no progress. (happens)

demand was getting *massive*.(understandable)

one guy wants to reanimate the project and restarted it. (yeah! exellent!)

he makes some colorfull pictures (umm.. wel.. ok, looks nice.. who cares..)

people start to donate (ok, as he does something he can get the money as he also made some kind of a fund for his fellowers..)

he sets up a git repository

he talks about good progress

but he'd need help from everybody he can get

(sure, this is a huge project.. not one a single person could handle on its own in a reasonable amount of time)

git repo died (should i offer him a git repo.. well, the bandwidth would kill my server.. )

help offers got ignored completely (why in the world he doesnt want that help he was asking for?)

still no git repo (man there were 2 people offering him a git repo.. no reaction on that. that stinks)

restarted git repo at github (oh.. ok..)

3 weeks coding in the dark (still no checkin.. strange..)

complaining starts.. whats done.. why not using our help (yeah, i think so too.. what's going on here)

now it becomes dirty.. tuxhero starts the racism **** (what the f... - is he insane or what? noone was talking about that)

the "blinded" jumping in (omg.. c'mon guys - you really cant believe that, can you?)

tuxhero takes the money and runs... (f*ck... )

so, when we are a community.. why he is not using it?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
hobbit19

[*]3 weeks coding in the dark (Gitrepo at github is broken)

[*]complaining starts.. whats done.. why not using our help (i need developers show me atleast one post from a developer saying i will help)

[*]now it becomes dirty.. tuxhero starts the racism **** (I think it's not me who started it. Please check before you say)

[*]tuxhero takes the money and runs... (Ok i don't want to listen this. Any one who donated and what there money back can send me a money request in paypal. And you have a nice offer too I will give your donations back double that means if you donated $5 you will get $10)

@Goose4all

I am not a run away kind i will surely show every one what i am and what i am capable of. I am sure that every one who talked against me will regret very badly

and that day is not very far.

@everyone who believe me

I am not going way guys i am just preparing for my new web site http://androidkernel.org This time i don't want to take chances that's why i am

testing everything fully many time to make sure every thing works with out any problem for atleast 1 or 2 years. Ones site is up i will invite each and every one

in this thread personaly even cr2 and patp will also get a invitation.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Cliophate:
I don't really know what's going on here, but I must admit that I don't care about racism and so on.

What I want is to see this progress going on. Android on my BlackStone and I would be like :eek:

As it seems you are the only one who is working on this project. Some others started it, but I haven't seen any changes until know (maybe I'm blind)

Please Tuxhero continue with this project...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] onda.maser:
Please Tuxhero, continue with this project. :)

I want Android on my Blackstone
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
Just to clear things out, are you saying you will open the new site in about 1 to 2 years?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Cliophate:
Haha no, what he want to say is that it should work without any bugs for 1 or 2 years.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
Erm, ok.

That, like everything else, doesnt make any sense, but whatever.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] stoolzo:
why?

why is this thread still here, it needs deleting.

If the project is stopped then in the interest of allowing people time to cool off and rethink their positions then we should close and delete it.

If tux decides he wants to continue with the project then i suggest it is done elsewhere than this thread and off XDA entirely to prevent any more of this childish bickering.

On a side note, i have read this entire thread and do feel that some of the glib comments and third world countriies etc should not have been made being that this is a global thread but i dont think out and out rascism was apparent.

:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] moer99:
can someone tell me wats gonna happen now, so far i've only said, "is ther a released version without audio" on this thread, so wats gonna happen??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] purec0de:
this thread is finished...

@goose4all, @daniel.hunt

hi guys, my post should perhaps have been worded more appropriately or at least directed at those i intended..

i do not follow (as i am sure others don't) with "Blind Faith", i am also aware of the more correctly aimed questions some including yourselves are quite correctly asking, especially the ones directed at PROGRESS being made.

it is the fact that XDA is a community and its willingness to protect itself that 'Scammers' are not suffered very often.

but i feel Tuc was pushed into this category before it was correctly discovered if this was the case (again this statement is aimed at the more daming questions and not the rightfully inquisitive)

i do have a lot of patience and as some others have said..checking the thread every once in a while is hardly investing a sense of blind faith and devotion.

as you yourselves have indicated we are ALL very keen to see Android on the Touch HD (course HTC for not making this an easier task!!)

but comments by a lot of people on this thread have now left Tux with no choice but to abandon the forum.

i for one would rather see the project being discussed and updated as necessary even if it takes 12 months from now to get a working BETA on my HD.

i only hope that those technically able enough will continue with the project and eventually open a new thread on the forum when there is something worth while to discuss. Sadly my own skills are .net based and if i had a little more spare time i would love to delve into Android Kernal and general low level coding....(maybe one day :rolleyes:)

...for now though i do agree that this thread is dead and once everyone has had chance to add their opinion it needs closing.

just seems a shame it had ended like this..........
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daniel.hunt:
I'm in the same boat as you - I really do wish I knew enough to help out with this, and I'm even tempted to dip my toes in the water and see what I can learn ... so long as I don't go turning my phone into a large brick :)

Completely agree though - it's a shame that it's evolved into this. Apologies for the blind-faith comment. After reading your explanation it makes perfect sense.

I do have to disagree with this though. Absolutely everything could have (and still can be) cleared up with commits to a repository of the work-in-progress code.

I'm not going to harp on about this though. Tux has decided to take his work away from XDA, so only time will tell if he can work through this huge project by himself.

We all want to see Android on the Touch HD as soon as possible - it looks like it's going to be a long wait for the next person to jump in and try to figure it out though :(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] brumbrum:
Agree! Who wants to get the bullys on this forum on their neck?

To bad that some people in here acts like children...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] purec0de:
thanks for the response, your apologies are unecessary but appreciated!

(we all like to have our opinions!! :D)

i see your second point too, and i have to say it is perhaps a little odd that tux has 'cut himself off' from this thread, the XDA community SHOULD have been his greatest resource. and as you said 'still could be'!!

looks like i'll have to invent a time machine and sqeeze 27 hours out of a day and have a go at Kernel coding in the spare three!! LOL :D

regards

purec0de
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] docmehmood:
Stop fighting

hay guys,

stop fighting, as there will be no benifit, if the developer is developing the android for blackstorm users, so they should thank him, instead of saying bad.

as for me i really appretiate the developer for what he is doing, i know he is working really hard to make android work on hd.

so everyone should appretiate him, as he came this far for us...

bravo developer...

may GOD bless u....

:) and hay developer, don't listen to these people, they don't know what they r saying..... so continue ur work...:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Archoz:
Lol, 9 out of 10 people are complaining about 'haters' and fighters, while nobody is actually being intentionally mean.. "What you resist, persists." - Carl Jung
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vidojajce:
gay is loser
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Khmer123:
Tuxhero Please Please, continue with this project.

I told all my friends that tuxhero in XDA will make my phone like Android (G1) phone Please prove them wrong!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] itchy8me:
hey hey hold your horses china, i offered to help out within a week from now.

i didnt know what to make of all this **** here. but now your making false accusations.watch out boet, your slowly throwing away any credebility that you once had :(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] pronik:
@tuxhero: Just donated, hope for the best for Donut+Blackstone.

I've got three things to ask you. First, please host the code you develop on github.com so that it's publicly available. Second, get yourself an account at http://review.source.android.com so that your code can be merged upstream -- this way your work would not be gone and the project could be restarted faster. Third, we'll need a manifest file to compile an android snapshot from source -- could you start with that so that we could compile a first snapshot for Haret and look which parts work out of the box?

Thanks.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Thankyou for your donation. Your suggestions are good i will review all of them and inform you.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Rumbi:
@tux

Maybe you should add this to your first post:

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlackstoneLinux
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Kenia1234:
Well done guys!!

Excellent work! it was time to start again this ambitious but wonderful project...and if you'll manage to make run a full working Android OS version on the touch HD i'm sure that the donations will be really ingent.

so keep working!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Rumbi i have added it. Thank you for your suggestion
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bonesy:
what stage are you at tux? You compiling the kernel yet?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ASK768:
@ bonesy

see first post
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vedun-z:
Hi guys!

I try to use 1.0 android blackstone project, but kernel doesn't found my sd card. (/dev/mmcblk0p1 : no such device) What can be wrong? How I can check context of /dev directory? May be my sd card is formatted as logical disk? How I can check it and reformat my card? I have russian l18n. Also kernel prints error : "mmc1: Command timeout "
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] orhtr:
Hi,

if your sd card is "transcend" this is a known issue :( . I use sandisk 8Gbyte and it works without any problem.

(see Discussion/Testing Linux on Blackstone thread :

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3621323&postcount=1206 )

All the best,
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] LikeM8:
Yes, but how do you mean about "the blackstone is not designed to run Android", as I know the HTC Magic has the sam hardware that the blackstone???
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ASK768:
It's similar but not the same which makes the difference when it comes to booting, referring to buttons etc.

@vedun-z

have you tried connecting the touch hd to your computer via activsync and then booting android? that sometimes works.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vedun-z:
@orhtr

Yes, I have transcend flash card, but kingmax 4GB doesn't work too. Can I mount inner flash card? I'm going to try 0.8 android version. As I think, initrd contains the whole system in android 0.8.

@ ASK768

No, It doesn't work too. :(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bonesy:
Make sure the TMP folder is at the root of sdcard, I sometimes get the problem you do but a soft reset does the trick
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vedun-z:
@bonesy

Existing /tmp on sd card doesn't matter because linux cannot mount my sd card.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bonesy:
ah sorry just throwing things that solved mine :(

On topic, Is this intended to be a ROM or cab as a final?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
We are currently porting kernel after finishing we will think of how to distrubute.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daniel.hunt:
*very* interested in this. Consider me subscribed
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] LikeM8:
Me also, I would like to be help you tux in your job. What can I to do? I am an hardware engineer and could pe make code in C language...

Regards
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Comple linux code is in C. you can find git repo at http://blackstone.abimanyu.in
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] pronik:
@tuxhero: the web UI for the repository is broken currently, git still works though.

Now we'd need a development bootstrapping manifest, like google has. For example, when you start developing for "normal" android, you do a "repo init -u git://android.git.kernel.org/platform/manifest.git" and "repo sync" afterwards. We'd need a separate repository with our own manifest, which would replace kernel location with our own, exclude the Dream parts and include Blackstone's.

Alternatively, we could build a local manifest file as described here: http://source.android.com/documentation/building-for-dream.

Either way, I think we should not deviate much from offical development documentation. We should have a small, four-step instructions on how to checkout code and compile a runnable snapshot (1. repo init 2. repo sync 3. make 4. reserved for future use ;-)) along the lines of the official "Get source" (http://source.android.com/download). Ideally, our documentation should be a link to that guideline, but it's still a long way to go....
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] DaVoice:
Whoooaa, I missed the whole fighting part but as I read right the project stopped. What's the problem ? Problems are there to talk about and solve them!

It's clear we all want Andriod on the HD so please let's work together and make something to be proud of!!

Tuxhero relax a little and think about it one more time, and if you need help we'll be there!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jt_kirk:
Fascinating

I really can't understand why some forum members blame Tux!

This guy don't own you anything! I repeat anything! Hi does this project in his spare time. It's his work. Posting information about this project in the forum does not create "Contract" with other members that he must complete project or he must report status of it. He just shares his ideas with us. Thats all!

and about donations. i think some people not fully understand meaning of this word. It's not a "salary" or "price". It's a free-will money giving. Tux don't make anyone give him donations.

So Tux, I'm completely with you here. if someone can't appreciate your efforts they don't deserve to use your work. And don't try to prove anything to them. it's pointless.

I wish you best of luck!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] wheeler94:
Whatever

Bravo by the way to add something that is so useless.

You made it; we've all been looking, but you found that something stupid to say. You deserve your useless award.

Bravo again.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] DaVoice:
I totally agree! And still hope Andriod will work on HD someday...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] DanMccoy1:
Quote:

AGREE!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] docmehmood:
Bravo TUX...!

I m with u too...:)

keep up the good work and don't care about what people say...

Best of luck...:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nova_vx:
and now?!?!

I wish know what i have to do...

I've to take a decision 'cause on http://androidkernel.org/ there's anything and i've not donated so Tux has not my mail for update.

Maybe it's better if i sell mine and buy an hero?

I accept offers!!! :D:D:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] qpasatio:
I second all your words!!!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
Stop twisting this into something its not.

Its more like we questioned his actions.

He (like everyone else) does owe everyone one thing, and thats to speak the truth, no matter what subject, and when it started to look really really weird, people reacted and rightfully began asking questions.

There is nothing wrong with that on an open community-forum that is used for interaction.

If he wanted to do this his own way without any input/feedback from other devs/users he should have started his own webpage from the start, like hes doing right now.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jimvakakis:
Idiots are everywere! We can't do enything about this. The only thing we can do is to ignore them. I wish tuxhero understung this and return the project to public.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jt_kirk:
Oh. Yep. Lets question him! Hi acts weird! May be he is a terrorist! :cool:

Yes! Interaction! But why this interaction become investigation???

it's his decision how he works on his project. not a community decision. but some people here think like this: do your project like we want or we blame you that you are a lier, a thief etc.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daniel.hunt:
Oh the absolute and completely irony.

I can almost taste it... :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] blacriderv:
Well, still nothing on his website....
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
Jeesus christ.. either you are acting stupid or you dont understand english very well.

Because we dont like beeing lied to, how hard is that to understand?

He can do his project what ever way he wants, but!!! When he comes here and state that he has done this and that but doesnt answere simple questions and constantly avoid everything that would show actual work, we arent allowed to display our disbelief?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hpn:
I guess your impatience and anger helps noone but yourself.

If you feel (or know) you are beeing lied to, why bother at all?

Go buy a Magic.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
Impatience?

The only people asking for when the betas will be released are the ones allready praising his work.

Im not saying Tuxhero is a liar, he did show something eventually, lets se what he posts at his new page.

So why bother? Because sometimes I cant keep from answereing to some totally ignorent users that cant see why the questions were asked in the first place.

If i would buy an Android-phone i would buy the Hero.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hpn:
There are a slight difference between asking questions and making so much noise that interesting post drowns.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
Yes. But like people have said before, it could easily have been avoided.

Its not rocketscience why other topics dont end up like this.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] DaVoice:
Nizzon please relax a little, let's try to make this work instead of throwing mud!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
Stop portraying us as witchhunters then.

This topic is dead, tux has asked the mods to close this down and he has moved on to his own site.

I think the only way the Android-project will continue here on xda is another restart.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hpn:
Absolutely, if some of you would stick to Nokia or SE...