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[G1 Android Development] Franklees:
Is anyone else having a hard time resetting their home screen to a different picture. It takes several attempts, and on some pictures it is never successful? does anyone know of a solution?
[G1 Android Development] Franklees:
This has been a problem with several builds. I have asked and not found a solution yet.
[G1 Android Development] Zarboz:
sooo i ran into a few problems with 1.8v2

1) cant access wireless controls from settings menu just goes back to settings

2)internet settings widget (the 3g toggle) turns 3g off but not on

3) Get ALOT of lag on rosie between home screens even with swappiness up and overclocked

other than that normal hero issues

jw if anyone else has had these problems
[G1 Android Development] djdeviance:
You should actually be on 1.8bv3. Everything works.
[G1 Android Development] Zarboz:
dl'ing and working on flashing now
[G1 Android Development] Breakthecycle2:
The 1.8b3 is awesome
[G1 Android Development] cjlyrix:
tru that.. :)
[G1 Android Development] Lionheart7:
Question About 1.8b3 from a newb

Can u restart the phone with swapper running, or do i have to disable it before?

Because today after installing 1.8b3 and enabling the app i restarted the phone and was stuck on the G1 window, so i had to reformat the card create the ext3 partition and reinstall 1.8b2, could someone give me some advise.:confused:
[G1 Android Development] KyleK29:
Plus, most SDcards come with a huge warranty (10years +). So as long as you keep your proof of purchase. You could probably just keep rotating two SD cards in the event one of them dies (warranty it, and go to the other one).

I've never gotten it to successfully change to anything other than the built in wallpapers that Rosie comes with. The others go through the crop process and "save" but never actually apply.
[G1 Android Development] blakestimac:
This version is pretty much perfect. I love it. Returning to rosie almost never gives me the loading screen!
[G1 Android Development] Franklees:
found a market app called "wallpaper save and set" that worked. it lagged when i first installed it, and after application of a new wallpaper, but just reboot and you wont notice the lag anymore.
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
its a little funny that i was just talking bout a way to conserve ram for rosie not to far back in the thread, and then JAC you turn around and find a way to create ram with swapper, truly genius lol
[G1 Android Development] armoredraven:
Yeah, that app works really well to use high resolution wallpapers.

You could also just modify the Rosie.apk and put your own wallpapers in there if you like. I don't know how this would affect it.

People say that using high resolution wallpapers from wallpaper set/save can cause some general slowdown as well as more battery usage. Possibly using your own Rosie.apk would prevent this? :P
[G1 Android Development] ccyrowski:
Swapper is an app downloaded from the market. And the concept has been discussed for some time in other situations, but it was definitely a great and necessary - albeit "hack" fix - addition. I've been testing it for three days now, experimenting with settings and have settled on 64 MB 60 swappiness. With a lot of widgets.
[G1 Android Development] mrfrenchfry:
Most people here say the swapper doesnt mess up your memory card that much. But the market comments has people talking about how it messes up in a week or so. So is there a specific sd card to use?

Side note, I would get system force closes outta no where, and then when i do they would go on and on until i reboot. Any idea? I'm on the 1.8bv1.
[G1 Android Development] tato22:
is it me or the lucid app dont wana work for me
[G1 Android Development] ccyrowski:
I use the lucid.txt method and it works fine (LucidRem JF1.51 thread).
[G1 Android Development] ccyrowski:
This is my theory:

Swapper "swaps" ad hoc, thereby separating essential cache information that ought to be together. An optimal solution would be to create a "swapper" app that does it in "blocks." That is, putting everything relating to one process or app together, and not allowing/allowing it to be killed at the same time.

Another solution would be to force Rosie to stay on internal RAM constantly, and let swapper/RAM deal with the rest ad hoc.

Did that make sense?
[G1 Android Development] armoredraven:
I'm thinking that maybe some people were not paying attention and tried to mount their usb while swapper was on. Doing this can corrupt your sd card I've heard.

And @ccyrowski, I think that sounds completely logical. You should try emailing/ pming the swapper developers, he posts on the swapper thread in the apps section.
[G1 Android Development] ccyrowski:
Yea, mounting while swapper is on corrupts card. You can reboot and be fine (at least that worked for me). But I make sure to turn off when mounting now.
[G1 Android Development] justanothercrowd:
Swapper is not my app and all credit goes to the developer. I had seen a few people rumbling about it so i decided to throw it in the beta :)

Thanks to everyone though i do appreciate the kind words.
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
ok i should have worded the statement better lol, but you got the idea lol
[G1 Android Development] xadaniman:
10 times better

Im soo happy that this build works efficiently. i have 5 widgets running with minimal lag. really looking forward to having this build perfected.

My top 4 builds (for most stable)

ION

Cynogen

JF 1.51

JACHero 1.8 bv3

keep up the good work, i blame the G1 for any problems not the os builds
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
quick question, im still using 1.7 with no problems and now have swapper up and running but i just recently found out i dont have rosie.apk anymore. I wanted to test its performance with swapper installed. Now i must have lost it using these commands

su

mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system

cp /sdcard/Launcher.apk /system/app/Launcher.apk

to move launcher.apk from 1.62 into 1.7 because it wasnt in there to begin with. Now i know i can just take rosie.apk from another version and install it back right ? Can i use the modified rosie.apk from 1.8bv3 that uses less ram ? If not i'll just take it straight from 1.7 again i just need the terminal commands that will place it back on the phone AND keep launcher.apk as well just in case i want to switch back. Thnx in advance...

I have used search but could not find a particular answer to this question.
[G1 Android Development] xadaniman:
update

instead of doing all that i would just rather update to 1.8bv3. less stress
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
true that would be ideal but at the same time would it ? inputting terminal commands and moving rosie.apk to the sd card would take less time than wiping, updating, and the re-setting up of the phone... 4-5 Mins > 20+ Mins lol
[G1 Android Development] armoredraven:
Just use "backup for root users"

It is much quicker and doesn't require any work, except pushing the things you want to be backed up, like settings, apps, app data, messages, etc.

If you want, you can easily just adb push the rosie.apk to the correct system folder
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
just downloaded backup for root users and it should really come with some more details even though its pretty straight forward. Lol but its getting late and ima do more looking over in the morning at work.
[G1 Android Development] mrfrenchfry:
One more question. Mount as in usb mount or adb remount? Thanks in advance.
[G1 Android Development] jesusxxx:
MMS

Any word on getting MMS to work? I love these roms...but the lack of MMS is pushing me away
[G1 Android Development] armoredraven:
I asked this question in the swapper thread also, but no one responded yet. I don't think anyone wants to test it out if it risks corrupting your sd...

Anyways, engadget posted this today:

http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/23/htc-launching-new-android-phone-in-london-tomorrow-well-be-the/

They are saying the picture may be hinting to the release of the Rosie UI on that android device, eh. If anyone here is in London, and if this thing does have Rosie on it, someone needs to pick it up so that it could be examined lol
[G1 Android Development] justanothercrowd:
1.8b4 w/auto APPS2SD via SYM/BIND uploading now. Some system changes and .odex/.dex changes
[G1 Android Development] justanothercrowd:
this is the Hero...if it actually gets launched we need a system dump :)
[G1 Android Development] armoredraven:
Jeez man, you don't rest do you? lol

Good job dude. Do you think the odex/dex and system changes are worth updating form 1.8b2? I'm really happy with my current setup, but if this will improve it... :p
[G1 Android Development] IRIE4IPIER:
didnt work for me either
[G1 Android Development] kickfliprock13:
got the entire build in about 45 seconds haha I had 800kb/s!
[G1 Android Development] jubeh:
i don't like hero, htc roms always seem kind of broken on dream devices and rosie's still too fat for the dream. With that said, though, I think you have done an admirable job at getting it running as well as it is (still no ion, but it's better than the original). I also commend you for propperly odexing almost all apks (still missing framework ones), it makes the apps run faster, saves space in /system compared to the lazy odexing (leaving the dex inside the apk), and saves space in /data. Great job indeed. I'd very much love to see a propperly ported version of rosie instead (one that is able to work with the default google frameworks and libs), but this job is amazing.

---edit---

oh, also, very importantly, kudos too for making apps2sd a choice, not a must. really nice job making an intelligent port of hero
[G1 Android Development] IRIE4IPIER:
Is anyone else getting an error while trying to flash the latest build? because i am. the 'bad instalation' error.

am i doing something wrong?
[G1 Android Development] crxtasi:
Try redownloading the Rom all over again! Hope this helps:D
[G1 Android Development] cidica:
well I got bored and decided to try out the rom. Have an issue though I DO have a sdcard partitioned I was running Cyanogen's 3.4.4 mod with a ext3 partition but during first boot I'm just getting a boot loop. figured I'd let the phone sit for a few so let it do that for about 20 minutes now and still no go. do I have to use ext2? or is ext3 ok as well? BTW this was with the 1.8b4 build
[G1 Android Development] Nismo300zx:
Did u wipe your phone and reformat ur ext partition??
[G1 Android Development] cidica:
I did wipe I just redid my ext partition now figured since I'm bored I'm willing to screw around this morning....so gonna try it again in a second here. I did remove all files from my ext3 partition before I installed the rom but I didn't reformat it it was already ext3 figured it would be ok. But I just did it now so gonna see how it goes.
[G1 Android Development] Nismo300zx:
Ok and if that doesn't work u can try formatting the partition to et2 then upgrade to ext3 in cyanogens 1.2 and jesusfreke recovery
[G1 Android Development] cidica:
yeah it's ext2 right now (used sdsplit) so right now it's doing the update files so I should know in a few mins if it's going to work or not.
[G1 Android Development] Nismo300zx:
i think i read somewhere that its better to use paragon or Gparted to partition...
[G1 Android Development] cidica:
yeah have paragon but it just loaded setting it up now so must of been the ext3 I had. will have to mess with it more but setup is nice so far
[G1 Android Development] Nismo300zx:
i

think

it supports ext3 as well....u can upgrade to it through cyanogens recovery image
[G1 Android Development] RaiderX303:
anyone having a problem with rosie not letting you slide to the next screen using the touch screen, i have to use the trackball to go to each screen, altho the touchscreen works fine in the menus
[G1 Android Development] cidica:
yep thinking about doing that. btw thanks for the help :) so far nice rom speed is eh but eh still nice though
[G1 Android Development] Nismo300zx:
maybe try clearing data in rosie
[G1 Android Development] xyrcncp:
Quick question, I'm still not doing apps2sd (still have a fairly new 16GB class 2 card), I would update to v4 now, but this line concerns me:

"Auto EXT2/EXT3 APPS2SD (Cyanogen SYM/BIND) on boot...use the included APPS2SD apk ONLY to move newly installed apps from the market"

Does this just mean that there will be a check if there is an ext2/ext3 partition? I can still go without apps2sd right?
[G1 Android Development] mhsbrian:
Anyone else had a problem with swapper corrupting their SD card?

I have a 4gb class 6 SD and 3 times now I've installed swapper on it and started it then then when I mount my phone to my PC and unmount RIGHT after unmounting the phone tells me the SD card is corrupt.

But here is the kicker, it's not really corrupt, I just restart my phone and everything is fine and reads perfect.

This only happens when swapper is running and it only effects the fat32 partition, the ext2 still functions fine when it says its corrupt so I KNOW it's not the SD card.
[G1 Android Development] chunga:
hero is out! rom needed!:P
[G1 Android Development] wwwhershcom:
smh.

you're not supposed to mount your phone with swapper on.

TURN SWAPPER OFF BEFORE YOU MOUNT.
[G1 Android Development] salamandar:
any bluetooth info yet?
[G1 Android Development] wwwhershcom:
no bluetooth.
[G1 Android Development] mhsbrian:
Well,

That should probably be mentioned in the main post because people are gonna do it that won't see this post, I seen 1 other post when I searched that mentioned the SD card corruption, but they said "i think" not that "it does".

Well now we know.
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
it most likely is the hero, it says july launch for europe and i wouldnt be surprised if this is the official coming out party for the hero which looks like a more boxed shaped G1 with a Leno style chin lol. But you never know it may be the HTC Lancaster as well, thats supposedly supposed to be running Rosie and has lower specs than the G1 either system dump would do wonders for getting a fully operational Hero rom.
[G1 Android Development] crxtasi:
there's a whole tread about it...swapper 0.1.1

it was my first time with this app too but the 1st thing i did was search on what it does before updating JACs rom just to make sure since it does have that warning. so far so good does help but still worried on how long my sd card will hold.:D
[G1 Android Development] mhsbrian:
Yeah, I have a San disk 4GB class 6 SD card. Got it from best buy for $18 so hopefully it will hold for a good while, maybe a few months..lol
[G1 Android Development] sxfx:
OK so I screwed up, I didn't realize swapper is turned on automatically right at start up, and mounted my sd card like an idiot.

Thing is I already had my ext3 on there.

So question is. Is it just the fat32 part that's corrupt or is it the whole thing?

And if it is just the fat32 is there a way to format it through terminal?

Thanks.
[G1 Android Development] mhsbrian:
Don't format, just restart your phone. It may not actually be corrupt!
[G1 Android Development] sxfx:
Nope it needs a reformat.

SO as it stands for right now like someone said. Do not mount your card unless you have turned off swapper first.

No big deal I have to update to V4 anyways.

Is there a way to boot our phones into terminal somehow and do a format command from there?

Cause once you do apps2sd and corrupt your card like I did the phone wont boot anymore. and I left my sd card reader at home hehe.
[G1 Android Development] Breakthecycle2:
What should the swapper be set to anyway?
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
i currently use 16/10 and it runs well...but too each his own i also eard people use 32/10
[G1 Android Development] Breakthecycle2:
Bear with me a sec...Where it says "swap control" - how many megs should that be set too?

For swapiness - what should this be set to? I am still new so don't flame! lol
[G1 Android Development] ibu2002:
anyone get an error with the twitter widget?

i cannot login and logcat says:

D/AccountManager( 1366): com.htc.htctwitter Not Found
[G1 Android Development] Nismo300zx:
Ok I just upgraded to 1.8bv4 and set the swap size to 128mb and swappiness to 60 ...is this setup right...should the swappiness b a lower number or higher?
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
no flame i just learned these yesterday, swap control is how large you want the space to be, thats where i use 16 MB and swapiness is how often you want it to use swap i have that at the default 10.
[G1 Android Development] 71CH:
How is 1.8bv4 working for everyone? Tried Hero before but it wasn't really a great match. Could this be the Hero ROM that brings me back to Rosie???
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
after doing some research i find that these numbers may be overkill, truthfully unless you really are going to be running alot of apps at the same time...i would recommend 16 or 32 MB and 10 for the swappiness but depends on what you like to do with your phone.
[G1 Android Development] Nismo300zx:
This build just gets better and better. I mean its running pretty fast with a stocking 1gig ...sh*t I can't wait to see how it runs with my new class 6 comin in
[G1 Android Development] 71CH:
Sounds good. I just might have to try it. Especially since my class 6 just came in :D
[G1 Android Development] Nismo300zx:
I'm just Trying to find the best setting to run about 5 apps at the same time along with the widgets on the screens without any lag or minimal lag
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
o u never did tell me how that went with the 1gig, lol its performance isnt that bad right ?
[G1 Android Development] Nismo300zx:
Man this things running great...sometime I forget I have the old 1gig in there...
[G1 Android Development] 71CH:
So swappiness is like RAM or something? And it kills your card faster?
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
i would say run 32/10 then try it and see what happens that gives you a good amount of space
[G1 Android Development] Nismo300zx:
Yea but not to the point in where the card is gonna die in a couple of months...u can do it and your card will still last about its normal lifetime...I believe they explain more on this in the swapped thread
[G1 Android Development] lazee_smurf:
Not to sound Noobish but, with this Rom do I need a freshly formated card. It's already partitioned with 1000mb for ext2.
[G1 Android Development] 71CH:
Alright gonna go check that out. Thanks for the info. If this swappiness thing really makes Hero snappy I might have to go back to Rosie :D
[G1 Android Development] dazzawright:
i would try it without formatting the ext_2 partition if i were you. I dont like formatting an SDCard too many times if i can avoid it. If it doesn't install properly or you have problems, then format the partition and reinstall. Thats what i would do anyway.
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
Yea its really quality to tell the truth lol....i cant wait to see a class 6 in action lol....

and yes thats what it is in theory...it caches the apps in the space provided from swapper so they dont have to close and can stay open in simple terms
[G1 Android Development] dazzawright:
i wasn't convinced by this swappiness stuff myself. Maybe i just wasn't setting it up right but i seemed to have lag and force closes still so i have gone back to cupcake and waiting patiently for a month to get the proper hero and experience the UI as it was meant to be experienced :) can't wait.
[G1 Android Development] buttsbuttsbutts:
I just flashed 1.8bv4 and I don't seem to have any ringtones? Is this normal?
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
wat class sd card do you have ??? i have a class 2 which is the stock 1gig and experience very little lag, but 1 thing i did notice is that when you first set up swapper there is a little lag but once its running for a few mins its good to go. I guess it has to get things in order...lol
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
yes they were removed to save space. Just create your own with ringdroid that way they save to your sd card.
[G1 Android Development] 71CH:
What are the best settings for swapper? Sorry for all the noob questions.
[G1 Android Development] fleshdeep:
1.84 auto sets swapper to 32/10 from boot.
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
the best settings are preference based, it depends on how many apps you want up and the space available on your sd card for swapper. But 32/10 isnt bad...and alot of people are new to swapper not just you...its funny how many people didnt use it till now...
[G1 Android Development] dazzawright:
See, thats the strange thing, i just got a new class6 card because i thought it'd be quicker.

I just saw that this new version auto sets swapper at 32/10. Is that the optimal settings ? i was setting it to 128\60 i think. Maybe thats why mine was still laggy. To be fair, it was actually blinding if i used the normal home rather than rosie, but that kind of defeats the object.
[G1 Android Development] buttsbuttsbutts:
Thanks!

One other thing I seem to have lost my softkeyboard is there a way to get it back?
[G1 Android Development] fleshdeep:
Kinda irritating.

When i setup ringtones on my sdcard via making folders /media/ringtones/, the 1st song i put on starts playing on my device. I cant stop it without a reboot. Anyone else have this happen?
[G1 Android Development] Breakthecycle2:
when I run App Swapper...it says: "staring (this kind take a long time). It's been saying this for almost 10 minutes. Is this normal?
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
hmmmm that may be the reason why, with swappiness set to 60 its using swap alot, but at the same time 32/10 are recommended...do yu really need 128 MB ?
[G1 Android Development] stopjockingme@gmail.com:
hows 1.8bv4? the change log weren't really listed. Im on 1.8bv3 and I don't want to switch if its just one little change.
[G1 Android Development] ccyrowski:
I'm using 64 MB swappiness set to 60
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
i would say try lowering your swappiness and see what happens try the 32/10 settings. But remeber it may be laggy at first unless that was just for me...it should get smoother as it starts cache-ing the apps...
[G1 Android Development] ccyrowski:
I've been playing with swapper for about three or four days, I stumbled upon it and alerted justanothercrowd to it.

Alot of people say stick with the default settings, hell I emailed the developer of swapper and asked him about it - poor soul is in Latvia - and he said the larger the swap file the slower it will work.

I use 5 screens of apps and widgets and no lag with my settings. I think I have perfected it.
[G1 Android Development] dazzawright:
i doubt i do, thats what I was reading in earlier posts though, or misreading more likely. Settings of 160/60 swappiness etc
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
see thats what i was thinking the larger the file the slower it moves...lol but thats cool if u got no lag stick with what works...i think that tid bit should be on the 1st page about the larger the size the slower it works
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
yea thats overkill i just think people say max it out if you can lol, but go with a lower MB it should move faster...
[G1 Android Development] ccyrowski:
Yea, I think the "slow" when discussing Rosie is a relative term. That is, relative to a regular build a large swap file (64 or 128 MB for example) is slow, but relative to Rosie - where you'll be encountering 30 sec load times if you have five screens of widgets - the effect of a large swap file is mitigated by the fact you don't get load times.
[G1 Android Development] Breakthecycle2:
Still says same thing.....anyone?
[G1 Android Development] fleshdeep:
Do the 3mm/usb headphones/adapter work with this hero build?
[G1 Android Development] ccyrowski:
press "get information" and see if your settings show up.
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
hmmm that may be the thing im still using 1.7 and when i used certain terminal commands to put back in launcher.apk i didnt kno it took out rosie.apk...so until sum1 can provide the code for terminal to put back rosie.apk and keep launcher in the process i cant test how rosie performs at a lower size swap file. I want to keep launcher just in case cuz it flyes with launcher.apk as the home...but i do want to test it with rosie