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[XPERIA X1 General] vietdoan20062006:
all i want from X2 is

- xenon flash so 5mp is enough but not crappy led flash.. i missed my K800, k850 2 years ago

- internal storage to 4Gb-8Gb and expand external storage up to 32Gb

- Faster processor 800mhz-1Ghz

- OMLED screen and bigger than 3 inches

- TV out function

IF they got at least 3/5 points there, im definitely buying x2 :D
[XPERIA X1 General] THE GRIZZ:
so in 5-6 weeks till its out is a good approximation

i hope thats not SE way of lowering our expectation. that 528MHZ in the X1 is not something many people over here can live with

i hope im just stupidly reading too much into your post
[XPERIA X1 General] gundamboy:
no multitouch eh D:
[XPERIA X1 General] fpatrick:
Thanks nevermind's new info :)

btw, for the final version of X2 on your hand, which build of WM6.5 is being used?

As the latest build 23034 of WM6.5, with all buttons now on the bottom bar, which is more amazing on control!

Windows Mobile 6.5 23034 Xperia X1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xbds4hwgX8

Or it will more or less the same as what we have seen at July?

Sony Ericsson XPERIA X2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs4OWMQ4NMw
[XPERIA X1 General] markoc84:
Please can you advise your source for the new leaked photo because i have had a quick search in endgadget and google but cant find a new one,

Thanks
[XPERIA X1 General] informatico:
Makes sense :D

About SE support ive tried in italy with my P1i and in germany with X1i ... everything just perfect ... i wish other companies had this support.

Please tease us with some spicy info ;)

Regards
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
do u have the photos or a link to them as i cant find any new ones.

thanks
[XPERIA X1 General] informatico:
Weel i think he means ... the old ones ... or is there a new X2 design??? that wuld be nice but i don't think so
[XPERIA X1 General] mbernstein:
I saw this link from BoyGenius. As I said, if the "glimpse" of design we can see is real... Or is this the X1? I apologize if I created a false expectation.

http://semcblog.com/2009/08/24/xperia-x2-will-be-announced-on-the-next-week/
[XPERIA X1 General] spikegotti:
lol i hope u dont mean the image on that link, thats the x1 early design for sure if im not mistaken.
[XPERIA X1 General] mbernstein:
Then I am dumb!!! Sorry everybody. It is just that it looks so much nicer than the X2 prototypes, that I've got caught in my wishes (the possible X2 specs are very nice, though)...
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
TV out: Works fine. Tried with my Sony and Samsung LCD. It works even with Core Player :eek: Now seriously, Core sucks as* on X1 but works very well on X2. Not sure if it's optimized for X2, but it simply works

fpatrick: Lol, nice to see my own X2 video on youtube :D

Won't tell which OS version is used, sorry. But it's one of the latest I can tell ;)

Ganondolf: no new pictures, as engadget and others are simply publishing them without any permission.

Differences prototype vs full - build quality of course. The slide mechanism is really good, makes good impression to me. Better than X1.

Screen has increased responsivity than the prototype. In fact it seems to me, they changed the screen. Not sure if another revision or different provider. However the lags it had on the videos are gone. Also it's more bright than X2 prototype and X1. If I have time and i'm in good mood, I'll try to post picture of X1 and X2 and the screen brightness. It's really big difference.

The reason I cannot tell the final specs is that SE will be releasing them soon (God told me, LOL ;) ) and they want to keep it secret. And hell yeah, don't want them to know who I am and get into the trouble ;)
[XPERIA X1 General] mbernstein:
Thanks nevermind.

But can you please tell us about hardware buttons. How many there are in the front and sides, and what they are for? And will the d-pad (or whatever it is called) be able to do "previous" and "next" track on music players, a function which seems to be less and less present in new hardwares...

I have a Kaiser and do love to use hardware buttons, thus my question.

Thanks a lot.
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
Oh man, sorry,

you saw the pics right?

So why you ask for sth you can see??
[XPERIA X1 General] killerskincanoe:
brighter screen eh ?... oh pretty plz be AMOLED!! oh god just got excited alll over again :)
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
u are indeed mistake my friend as that is the x1, even says at the bottom of the post on the site u gave :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
@ nevermind

1. have they changed the look of the keyboard so that it looks eye friendly? (not the design, as i hope they keep the laptop like keyboard as it works better than the x1 type but the look and shape of the buttons etc)

2. does the final model feel like a good enough phone and has enough improvements to replace my/yours/anyones x1?

3. have sony put its own ui over 6.5? (i have seen the panel in your vid but want to know if there is a full ui system like mania /spb 3.0/ touch wiz etc or is have they kept the 6.5 as the main ui?).

4. do u feel it is good enough spec wise to keep up with the new samsung/tosiba/lg models that are out and coming out?

5. have the change the casing material from what was used in the prototype to a higher quality material?

6. has it got much metal like the x1, and if so how is the reception quality? (as this is a problem in the x1 in a lot of places).

thanks in advance
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Now, this is some good news. The slide on the X1 is awesome, so any improvement to that must be phenomenal.
[XPERIA X1 General] D-SouthWest:
What up Nevermind

Just 2 questions?

1.Is the screen measuring of the final version 3.5 inches or 3.2?

2.Has the SE media menu improved (an equalizer maybe)?

Peace
[XPERIA X1 General] fpatrick:
nevermind: lol, i don't know the video is from you indeed

thanks for answering, may be i just look forward on coming announcement next week, can't wait for this fantastic X2!
[XPERIA X1 General] 10123:
So far this is all we know

-8mp camera, with flash

-Slide out keyboard

-Better screen

-Larger screen

-WM 6.5

-WM 6.5 home screen given a shell by se

-Stream content from PS3

And thats it so far, i think :confused:
[XPERIA X1 General] hyellow:
So... maybe the most important question of all time:

Will xda support this device, will there an exception be made to allow windows mobile devices from other companies. with upcoming competition of iphone, webOS, android, we must stand together as one, support all wm fans all over the world.

am i asking too much?:p
[XPERIA X1 General] Gilg@mesh:
the most important for me is: IT HAS TO BE A BETTER CPU, if not I'm not buying it, because I want to listen to music and in the same time send a sms WITHOUT the phone becoming SLOW like in the X1... I pray to GOD 800-1000MHz CPU :)
[XPERIA X1 General] bronx:
You are sooo right pal. when I've heard for the first time about x2 having 512 mhz cpu again, my heart stopped for a second. :) I hope it was just a silly rumour or just a prototype device.
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
My first laptop had a P2 366mhz :(.............
[XPERIA X1 General] harveydent:
My first desktop had a speed of 4 MHz. And it had a turbo button so you could "overclock" it to 8 MHz!!!!
[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
I speculate the X2 will be somewhere around 628 MHz with 256 RAM. If it were released Q1 2010 than that's very likely. When Samsung Omnia came out it had 628 and yet X1 had 528.
[XPERIA X1 General] fpatrick:
So...even more better if X2 can come with Snapdragon MSM8250 1Ghz, same as htc Leo (rumor), haha :D
[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
I highly doubt that the RAM will be 512. Seriously, that's pushing it. You guys want to keep this rumor alive because you know it's a disappointment having the same amount of RAM.
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
i think the ram will stay the same but the cpu will be 1ghz, as they are using that in the x3, there is no reason why the x2 (which will be released so close to the x3)will not have it too.
[XPERIA X1 General] informatico:
Well they are different OS platforms ... and the cpu´s depend also a lot on that ... for example symbian doesnt need lot of MHz. i dont think they have increased the ram ... or maybe just 32MB more ...
[XPERIA X1 General] thelucius:
I suppose SE will keep the good old 720(0/1)A CPU stuck to 528Mhz. Just what HTC did with their TP2. I hope I'm wrong about this one, but it definitely makes no sence to change X1 to X2 if the CPU is the same. I think that KB,Display and Camera are not enough to make people throw their X1 for an X2.
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Check this out people:

http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/27/nokia-n900-running-maemo-5-officially-500-in-october/

600+ mhz processor and 1gb RAM. Damn...
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
for a device with 1gb of ram, the 600mhz cpu seems a bit low. why not put a 1ghz cpu or even better tegra. i wonder if its a cortex-A8 like in the iphone 3gs and palm pre.
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Yes it is AFAIK. 1ghz processor would be perfect I agree.
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
Eh good old times. The turbo was so awesome, dude! Remember playing Lotus and other racing games. But with Turbo it got way too fast LOL

My first PC was Commodore 64, which had almost 1Mhz.. Basic on it, games.. Damn those were times! :D And now everybody is bit*in about 1Ghz and 16GB RAM! :D:D
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
if the commodore 64 had 1mhz i wonder what my atari st had?:p
[XPERIA X1 General] informatico:
ok ok ...is nice but can't fit in a pocket anyway

Volume:

Approx 113cc

Dimensions:

110.9 × 59.8 × 18 (19.55 at thickest part) mm

Weight:

Approx 181g

even my laptop is thinner :D
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
1GHz..

OK ladies, time to uncover the secret. We at SE are preparing brand new device and testing it.

It has 70 inch screen (that is 1.7 meter, dude!) http://media.akihabaranews.com/12266/70 inch LCD_02.jpg (no, the fine lady isn't included, she is all mine, muhahahahahahahaha < evil laugh ;) )

666 Power7 CPUs - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POWER7 (seriously, forget the chick above!)

RAM will be available depending some people's brain - connected through your thoughts

The code name is HAL 9000

It has everything you can imagine. But you cannot put it in your pocket and therefore it's not POCKET PC anymore...

Well, it wasn't exactly 1MHz, but about 0.9MHz.

Anyway damn you, Atari got 8MHz LOL

Exactly.. People forget what means POCKET PC, PDA ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_digital_assistant ). Also that in most countries, cellphone is called "mobile phone"

Because you can't carry in your pocket, it's always better to buy a laptop or desktop PC. It's bigger, faster.... And you can be all day long at home, watching all those nasty Pr0n on 70inch LCD :D
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
How did ypu know? "Goes to check for hidden cameras"

Also, Pocket PC is not the same as PDA.
[XPERIA X1 General] gundamboy:
a big thing of importance is whether it will get any XDA support... :(
[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
Next Week from August 25th = September 1.

September 1 is when things start happening!
[XPERIA X1 General] vinokirk:
It will never get any XDA support as it has not been made by HTC. This has been discussed a thousand times on a thousand other threads...

This site is only for HTC made devices
[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
It has not been officially announced that HTC won't be making the X2. So shh..
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
Which actualy sucks.. Because although a device is made by HTC, the inside (CPU, GPU, whatever) is made by different companies. So I don't think it'll be such problem to change this site as well to E-Ten, Samsung,....... Hope others get my point :D
[XPERIA X1 General] njao:
but come on its a huge difference... i understand if they dont want i dont know samsung omnia or e-ten or whatever but the xperia line has started here they already have the x1 on the site it would be wrong in so many ways to just ditch it... if they do that this site will go on my black list...
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
I have a solution for everyone who is bothered by the "not made by HTC = no support on XDA"

DON'T BUY THE X2, 3, 4, ....75. Wait for the Touch Pro 3 or something else made by HTC. I have said it many times before, no XDA means no purchase of that device.
[XPERIA X1 General] killerskincanoe:
who cares. if it's here. x1 had too much of a following of modders to NOT have one after the x2 comes out
[XPERIA X1 General] gundamboy:
true true, who's to say that there won't be another place you can find X2/X3/X4/X5 support if it becomes popular enough? :)

I'm glad I have the X1, because without xda's support, it would be nowhere.
[XPERIA X1 General] njao:
haha yeah i will let a sites support of a certain device decide if i should buy it or not... it makes so much sense lol... its like not buying a BMW bc a certain trim shop doesnt support my 6 series that i bought...
[XPERIA X1 General] slavyan5:
Well.... I wouldn't say it doesn't make sense...if I still had to live with the slower and buggier normal ROMs and windows 6.1, that I bought the xperia with, I might have just returned to symbian with nokia N97 ot something.

I wouldn't say it will be to only think that decides for me whether to buy it or not, but if there's a worthy competitor from HTC (pro 3 for example or something like that) I'd definitely go for the one that has support here with no hesitation.

Nevertheless, I truly, truly hope it wouldn't come to that, and the site will decide to support the X2, whatever happens. For me, that would be the right thing to do, both for our sake, so that we'll be happier, and for the site's sake, so that more people will visit it and it will be more popular.
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
If you'd switch to N97, you would REALLY experience slow and bad software, LoL!

N97 is a mistake...

I will buy X2 no matter who does whatever.

It would be nonsense to rely only on support - the device should be good by itself!

In other case it's fake...

I'm here mainly to learn WM....

There are other sites too...

I hate TF3d and lack of hardware ctrls on HTC,

as well as theirs disgusting design.

So HTC no go for me.
[XPERIA X1 General] slavyan5:
We have a saying in Bulgarian that in English sounds something like this : "Various people - various ideals." :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X1 General] spikegotti:
slower and buggier normal ROMs and windows 6.1???????

i am still on the official rom from SEUS and nothing slow on my device or buggy either, actually i love my stock rom more than any of the cooked roms i have tried here, please check your 3rd party apps that may cause this, my device was running well until i installed pointui (which was this morning) with the sense thingy which is screwing up my main homescreen eachtime i change the wallpaper of the regular home :(

if the looks of the x2 improves then i will purchase it regardless who supports it, i dont see the reason to ditch a device because its not htc made and wont be supported by the xda community, give me a break, its still windows mobile and almost everything that can be installed on the x1 will be able to install on the x2 if not everything...

and for the site's sake, so that more people will visit it and it will be more popular......SEE HERE AT THE BOTTOM >>>http://xdaforums.com/index.php

this site is like this every minute of the day dude, it reminds me of insanelymac...anyway, i can assure you that the least of all reasons people bought a winmo device was for the htc xda support...
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
exactly the same here
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
That's the keyword right there. Has there ever been a phone that was good by itself? You don't have to answer, because the queston was rethorical...

There are no other sites comparable to xda when it comes to development and support.

I agree with this.

P.S. A lot of people have missed the point of ny earlier post, I guess.
[XPERIA X1 General] killerskincanoe:
so, back on topic. who has a guess as to when this annoucement might take place next week? earlier, later, mid week?
[XPERIA X1 General] fpatrick:
as far as i heard, should be 2 Sep, correct me if i wrong.:p
[XPERIA X1 General] nevermind:
Just to make it clear - hope you understand that annoucement and final release are two different things..

Oh by the way, it's so interesting how many officials from SE are reading this thread ;)
[XPERIA X1 General] spikegotti:
Oh by the way, it's so interesting how many officials from SE are reading this thread

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lol maybe they are wondering who could have posted such info from the inside :P

oh well, its good to get feedback from us xperia addicts, i hope they listened *whistling*
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Well then, I'll post a direct message to them.

Let me tell you something, you fat, overpayed SE officials. For once in your life listen to what we want or no one will buy your overpriced garbage anymore and you will be forced to go on a diet. Keep the form factor, the D-Pad with all the buttons and the resistive touchscreen. Put a 4 inch screen, 1ghz processor, smooth WinMo, panels development and all the other goodies mentioned in this thread and I'll pay 1000 euro for it. Otherwise I'm going back to Nokia.

Nuff said.
[XPERIA X1 General] D-SouthWest:
Dont forget high quality sound, great video player & webrowsing (Flash player)!!!

Peace out!!!
[XPERIA X1 General] hyellow:
don't forget the flamethrower either
[XPERIA X1 General] bronx:
LOL.......
[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
I want a 4-inch screen and Touch Pro2 keyboard with a number row and ctrl key (or Xperia X2 keyboard with a number row and CAP/FN indicators) on a curved slider form factor, With a 3.5 mm headphone jack, atleast 1 GHz processor, instant rotation (without screen animation), N95 quality stereo speakers, 32 GB internal storage + microSDHC expansion, 1800 mAh battery, Frontal D-Pad without optical joystick (replace it with a scroll wheel on the side of phone), 12.1 MP Camera, and OS Should be Windows Mobile for now.
[XPERIA X1 General] spikegotti:
lol i agree, the design of the x1 still stand out as the best designed of all pda-phonethingies to date, if i had my way i would have upgraded the internal hardware, build the body with the same material as the P1i (believe it or not but after 2 years my p1i frame still looks new, and i do love the P1i), maximize the screen a bit and make the device thinner.

its soo weird that the front of the xperia does not scratch but the battery cover does, why didn't they just build the battery cover the same as the front housing plate :confused: or even give it a rubbery finish like the P1i battery cover? anyways enough said, if the x2 looks like the leaked pics, i aint buying it
[XPERIA X1 General] slavyan5:
1. Not that I don't agree, I do agree, but don't you all think that it's a bit too late for demands now, at least for the X2. Whatever is done - is done, little can be changed now, so close to announcement date.

2. I just don't understand the thing about the screen. Why do you want the resistive touch screen? Am I misled somehow, coz I though the capacitive touch screen should be much better. :rolleyes: What do I get wrong?
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
@ poetryrocksalot

Nooo!111 What will I do withounthe optical joystick? I use it all the time. Maybe they can put both in lol. Agreed on everything else.

@ spikegotti

The X2 looks so ugly... Agreed totally on that.
[XPERIA X1 General] spikegotti:
I just don't understand the thing about the screen. Why do you want the resistive touch screen? Am I misled somehow, coz I though the capacitive touch screen should be much better. What do I get wrong?

well i second the resistive screen, i love it, only problem i have with it is the cleaning part, getting in those corners aint too easy lol, but hmmm, they can bring that new screen htc suppose to be bringing
[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
He thinks the resistive screen is better. Maybe when capacitive screens support objects other than your finger, he will consider (I think).
[XPERIA X1 General] informatico:
I think ... future smartphones and also best solution is to have a hybrid screen with both capacitive and resistive .... I don't remember which smartoone has it but somewhere i saw smth like this :)
[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
Nevermind, why are you doing this to us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[XPERIA X1 General] fpatrick:
hmmm....hybrid screen is not needed. htc did have technology on stylus for capacitive screen, but...never deploy right now...

http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/14/htc-files-patent-for-capacitive-stylus-with-resistive-accuracy/

http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=6842
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
steady on son, dont give them ideas
[XPERIA X1 General] spikegotti:
steady on son, dont give them ideas

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you got that Sh** right...as much as i love the x1, if the x2 catches my eye with that kinda pricetag i wont be buying...reminds me of when the P990 first hit the market with a hefty 1200 USD pricetag, the x1 was even too high for my pockets then to suffer with cracks and rubbed off paint, damn i should have bought another P1i :mad:
[XPERIA X1 General] raudo:
I almost fully agree with this, but I would also like to have a better front hardware controls (dislike the X layout), improved keyboard (added Ctrl, size, contrast) and better camera (find X1 camera pretty much useless).

So, X2 fits that bill. Hope the price is right though (Are you listening SE? )
[XPERIA X1 General] Oobly:
I would like a bigger screen (4" maybe?) which is flush with the top of the case and a more efficient front button layout (I love the optical joystick, but would like the screen to take up more space and the buttons less). Maybe a little thinner and a faster CPU with full hardware acceleration drivers!

I really can't find much fault hardware-wise with the X1, but the firmware..... ugh! Flashed a new ROM the day I got mine.
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
i think there are some things that are near def now, here is a list:

1. screen 3.2" (at max they may go to 3.5" but no way will they stretch to 4". maybe oled but not likey, although nevermind said the screen was a lot brighter what is a benifit of oleds)

2. 8.1 mp camera

3. wm 6.5

4. 4 row keyboard (may go 5 but that would mean a redesign of keyboard from prototype, but only heard good things from testers about it so cant see them doing that.

5. design of handset (may change a bit from prototype but will be little change not a whole redesign.

6. Micro sd card slot (so no big internal memory).

7. agps, bluetooth, wifi etc included (all standard stuff, we dont know it the g-sensor is included in the x2)

8. x panels included with a new se ui panel and a ps3 remote panel/app.

The most important thing that we dont know for sure is the CPU and RAM (prototype had the same cpu and ram as the x1).
[XPERIA X1 General] Gilg@mesh:
give me 800mhz GOOD CPU and 256MB RAM and I'm buying the X2 :D

check out Samsung for example, almost all their high-end phones have 600-800MHz CPU's...
[XPERIA X1 General] oTToToTenTanz:
Back to normal SD Cards? No MicroSD?

That is good news!
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
hahaha.... Which one...?
[XPERIA X1 General] SEXperiaX1:
I for one feel happy with 3.5 inch display.

I have held Omnia HD which has a 3.7 inch screen and oh dear, is that device too big or what?

I don't care too much about OLED to be honest. the screen in X1 is really nice and vibrant. Making it 0.5 inch bigger would have been nice but the most important is to remove that stupid frame which is a part of that front fascia where dusts love to stay in.
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Maybe the new tablet - N900.

P.S. I really hope no one thinks capacitive is better, because that would laughable.