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[G1 Android Development] rainabba:
Think we're having a communication problem so I'm seeking clarification:

Front-end = GUI ? (in my terms, true)

Front-end != console/command-line ? (in my terms, true)

Auto-connect (after pairing) shouldn't require GUI right ?

So... If I could pair devices with the GUI (which I can), then mod/tweak/enable anything else needed through a command-line, then I could have fully functional bluetooth (all standard profiles) right ?

IOW, can bluetooth be made to work completely without the frontend (GUI)? If not, then I don't see why you made the distinction and I'm trying to understand what you were trying to communicate.
[G1 Android Development] alritewhadeva:
Shafty are you still working on this or have you given up?
[G1 Android Development] seufert:
Has anyone tried preloading a hero libandroid_runtime.so under the cupcake libandroid_runtime.so, 'in theory', it should only call the *new* methods from the hero lib, and the standard methods from the cupcake lib. This will only work if HTC has not modified the behaviour of the function calls.

Not sure how you get it to happen thou, im not familiar with how the libandroid_runtime.so is actually loaded during android boot.

The theory is along the lines of the how socks lib's on linux work, where they overide the socket_* function calls, and let the rest go to the usual places.

Maybe if this does work, we could rip down a cupcake libandroid_runtime.so to only have the functions that bluetooth requires.
[G1 Android Development] shafty023:
These files are .so which are ELF shared libraries. This means when they are compiled they are dynamically linked against these files. You can see what libraries an ELF file is linked against using the Linux "ldd" command.

So you would need the HTC source code, change the makefile to include the "other" libandroid_runtime.so and then recompile source so all files linked to libandroid_runtime.so also include the cupcake version which you'd have to supply as a different filename from the original.
[G1 Android Development] shafty023:
I had stopped b/c I went back to a cupcake build as I use my phone for business and the lag/issues with Hero were becoming an issue. Now with switchrom being released I am able to switch back and forth between cupcake/hero as needed. This doesn't mean I'm back on finding a cure for the BT issue though as where I left off last time is exactly the same issues that are relevant now. The framework is not built for the G1/Dream BT chipset. We will need to wait until the Magic gets the Sense UI released for it and we'll be able to EASILY port that over to the G1/Dream. So just hang tight until that happens
[G1 Android Development] :
thanks for clearing it up :D
[G1 Android Development] seufert:
Hrmm, not even possible using an LD_PRELOAD? That woud allow forced loading of the cupcake libandroid_runtime.so, but still allow what ever process needs it, to load the hero ver. Thats if the linux ver for the phone even allows for LD_PRELOAD.

If I had a better understanding of the boot process for android, i would try and hack something myself.
[G1 Android Development] shafty023:
Yes if we had access to HTC's source code for Hero, which we don't. You're thinking Linux when you should be thinking Java. These shared libraries are not called from the commandline or via a shell script. They are called within jar files which have been odex'd and converted to byte code.
[G1 Android Development] SRKdrift:
Bluetooth with hero possible fix

they say that bluetooth works with htc magic and sapphire because of the updated drivers so if we (HTC Dream guys) to flash a Magics or Sapphires version of the DREAM.nbh file wouldn't we also update our drivers?
[G1 Android Development] Wii60:
So, now that we have the MyTouch dump, can we get BT on the G1?
[G1 Android Development] SRKdrift:
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well is it in a nbh format
[G1 Android Development] Wii60:
Surely if it was in format someone would have tried, right?
[G1 Android Development] SRKdrift:
well i will take that as a no well if we can put it in nbh format we can flash through fast boot
[G1 Android Development] Wii60:
I feel a sudden need to state my immense respect for shafty.....

We got the the ROM you wanted!
[G1 Android Development] rainabba:
Anyone else left feeling a bit lost from this post? I'd welcome some clarification (feel free to PM even).
[G1 Android Development] shafty023:
I appreciate it but unfortunately the ROM that was released was still for the HTC Hero phone and not for a phone with the same BT chipset as ours.

With that said I'll still be toying with the ROM and seeing if for some strange reason it has expanded compatibility with our chipsets :)

BTW, the ROM release we were waiting for was a Sense UI ROM for the Magic phone which is the Canadian version of our G1 phone. That will be released soon hopefully as HTC had promised
[G1 Android Development] Wii60:
I thought you were talking about this- http://twitpic.com/lcwgq/full. It's all over Drizzy's twitter.
[G1 Android Development] shafty023:
I actually meant to say we were waiting for the Roger's Sense UI update, not the Magic (aka MyTouch) which has a different chipset than our Dream/G1.

I haven't seen Drizzy's Twitter page, anyone have a link to it?
[G1 Android Development] Wii60:
Ahh I gotcha now. I didn't know there were plans for the Dream to get it. Oh well, I suspect that Blur will get BT and wifi before Hero gets BT.

Here's his twitter- http://twitter.com/HeartBreakDrake
[G1 Android Development] shafty023:
K thanks. I'll likely not be contributing anything for this week as I'm battling that annoying Swine Flu (H1N1) right now. Soon as I can think clearly without a fever I'll take a look at the newly released dumps, flash a hero ROM back to my phone and do some BT hacking!
[G1 Android Development] axlastro:
Get well soon

Sorry to hear that. Get well soon.
[G1 Android Development] SG_Shadow:
@shafty023

I had a brush with H1N1 myself, it is no joke. Hope you get better soon. I also wanted to add that I'm using a HERO ROM based on sapphire sense ui. We needed sapphire sense ui to get BT working for G1, right?

http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1032
[G1 Android Development] axlastro:
Not quite. The sapphire is based on the same bt hardware as hero so it's not applicable for dream. We are waiting for a rogers dream sense ui. Also HTC released the source code for hero 2 days ago, so we could hope this will help our devs to recompile it for dream, which is not very simple task too...
[G1 Android Development] os2baba:
The dream source seems to be released as well.

http://developer.htc.com/
[G1 Android Development] axlastro:
Yep. All threee - dream, magic and hero are released. Not sure what it actually means for the development of roms for g1 though... Are we going to get bluetooth working? Are we going to be able to recompile the whole sense ui for use on the dream? Is it needed anymore, when we have donut released and android 2.0 and Flash 10 on the doorstep (probably will be released in 2-3 months). Not sure.... I think HTC have made their calculations well so even if we could get Sense ui on cupcacke running perfectly on our G1, thare will be something new, that won't work. The G1 is only an year old and I won't be changing it for anything less than a Moto Droid that's for sure... So sorry HTC, but you can't make me buy a Hero...
[G1 Android Development] axlastro:
SO now that we have SENSE UI for Sapphire

Any chances of making that BT work on G1s?
[G1 Android Development] shafty023:
We need senseui for the Rogers phone. And the source that was released on the HTC website was only for the linux kernel, NOT for the android operating system. The kernel is not the issue, we need the android source which I'm doubting we'll ever get. In the mean time you should try out one of the Motorola Blur ROMs, they're impressive.
[G1 Android Development] SG_Shadow:
I won't continue to hold my breath for the roger's sense ui so I will try the motorola blur rom's. I've tried in the past and couldn't get past the initial setup. I also tried setting up the motoblur acct online and then just sign in during the setup and still no luck. Do you happen to have any advice or suggestions for a blur rom?
[G1 Android Development] Wii60:
Well, before you go too far, be aware that Blur roms lack wifi and gps. They also have a few other problems. The wifi problems there seem to be in the kernel, but there has been almost no progress on that front.

It is extremely frustrating because Sense and Blur are very impressive, but look like they just will never be usable on a daily basis.

Most of us can either wait for the devs to keep up the good work and find a breakthrough even though most seem to have given up (not their fault, it may just be impossible) or wait for T-Mobile to give us a snapdragon phone.
[G1 Android Development] SG_Shadow:
@Wii60

Yeah, I think the biggest problem with all these cool rom's is that they were never designed for the HTC Dream/G1. I would be in heaven if I could get BT w/ Sense UI on my G1. It would be like an early Christmas present. But I will not continue to hold my breath for this. If it happens, it happens. I just want to try out the Blur rom's. Do you have any suggestions for completing the initial setup? I just can't seem to seem to get past the moto blur acct sign in....
[G1 General] momentarylapseofreason:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svVx6ZTcQks&feature=channel

LOL
[G1 General] Abbens:
funny video but he voice is very annoying
[G1 General] CBowley:
Couldn't even watch more than a minute because of how annoying this video was.
[G1 General] skiptomylou11:
He sounds like a drunk Irish person with Down Syndrome. No offense to any drunk Irish people with Down Syndrome intended.
[G1 General] liamhere:
hummmm

well i can see you can't tell a irish man from a scots man

before the flaming starts......thread closed
[General Questions and Answers] dru28:
so i have htc xv6900 from verizon. i have it flashed for cricket and the internet was fine but i love messing with phones lol so i ended up flashing my rom to the wm 6.5(sprint htc touch pro) and had to get a program to get the unlock code to get into my ##778# and the info is right but my data connection is not going through #777 which it was at first so is there a program or app that i can run to connect or sprints code or jus something to get internet back to my phone thank you sorry if i post it in the wrong place
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Chrono86:
We all know how bad Windows 6.1 performed thanks to HTC never providing us with the correct video drivers...

I just installed 6.5 from this link

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=519715

And now my phone is UNBELIEVABLY sluggish, I mean 2 second delays between selections and screen changes...this is pathetic really

I thought people were saying 6.5 was faster

Anybody else have this problem
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ChumleyEX:
I don't know any of that. 6.1 was good to me and 6.5 better.

Just because you have problems doesn't mean we do.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] anagarika:
You should be posting on TCP's thread. I'm using it and very happy .. in certain aspects, it's faster.

Did you flash OEM before doing this? SPL version and Radio is important too ..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ejectionseatfixer:
Im Having issues too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ejectionseatfixer:
I am a bit curious about that. I unlocked mine with hard-SPL after much fight getting it to run and installed the new radio packed with it and then updated to TCP Elite, and for some reason, the radio is acting up, I can get calls and when I hang up, I get this wierd humming noise even while hung up, afterwards which the phone wont answer calls. (Radio version is 1.70.Olinex, SPL 1.0 Olipof). Also, the camera doesnt work either. Anyone else having any issues with this and if so, what fixed it?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pjcforpres:
I would suggest reading the flashing for noobs guide again, as you have a radio that is hacked to unlock the phone and isn't meant to be used everyday, and you have an SPL that is in the exact same boat. Read my sig as to what I have for a Radio and my SPL, they work great for me!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ejectionseatfixer:
Thanks. I am running what I am running due to having the white screen issue as well as the "rare" (per another thread somewhere) USB connection issue, so the ones I am running are because of all the hassle it took to get the USB to connect. Once I did, I was a little nervous about going much further. Thanks for the updates. I will surely look into it after work.:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pjcforpres:
Just flash via SD card... I would upgrade your Hard SPL first, then upgrade your Radio... no need to hard rest after flashing any of those... just follow the sticky guides in the ROM Development forum.
[Off-topic] Nautme:
I'm probably going to get it for asking this, but why not add support for other devices (at lest popular ones). I realize this site was founded around HTC devices (I've owned at least four myself), but couldn't there at least be a couple forums for other vendors (Motorola, Sony, Samsung, to name a few).

Personally, I've been extremely anxious to get my hands on a Touch Pro II when they come to the US, but I must say the more I read about the Samsung Omnia Pro, with its AMOLED screen, 3.5 mm headphone jack, dual flash, 5 megapixel camera, 30 fps video, 1GB ROM, 800MHz processor, and so on (check out http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5024 for a comparison), the more I start to wonder if I should wait for that device.

While I don't agree with everything in the comparison, WMPowerUser makes a point that the Omnia Pro won't have XDA-Dev support. I've gotten so much help from XDA over the years that not having that support could be a deciding factor.

I guess my question is... Why can't we have support for devices from other manufacturers on XDA-Developers (other than in Off-topic/General Discussion areas)?
[Off-topic] DaveTheTytnIIGuy:
I believe the idea behind keeping the site all HTC is for a few reasons. The first would probably be because the site is huge already, and running at maximum capacity. And once you added the Samsung Omnia for example, then other people want a forum for their Axim or QTEK or I-mate or whatever phone (or even an iPhone section, gasp!), and this site simply does not have the resources to have forums for every single device ever made. And in my opinion, the second major reason is summed up by JimmyMcGee here:

I hope that helps,

Dave
[Off-topic] galaxys:
Here's a simular thread with a lot of info, pro's, con's, etc.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=502205
[Off-topic] + Que PPC:
Always exist somewhere everybody's belong

This is the site for HTC manufactured Devices, maybe there is a Omnia forum for you all...

BTW check my siggy there is one more Win Mo Non HTC devices forum

WINMODEVELOPERS... its growing...

winmodevelopers.co.cc
[General Questions and Answers] bstylz911:
ok so i reliazed that everytime im running my sms everything else i try to run slow way way way down

all my stuff freezes too making it dificult to anweser calls

ALSO

the battery indicator seems not acurate

one time its says im 50% then i soft set it while charging only for 2 minutes and it says im 90%

any help please?
[General Questions and Answers] + Que PPC:
Many things happend to it...

but you must start to write what do you got:

We all know that its a wizard but...

What about the Memory? please go to memory and tell us what you can see...

WHat about the apps installed? so much... or too much photos in main memory or too much sms...

What about the OS? stock WM5? custom 5, 6, 6.1, 6.5?????

What about that ROM!!!? didi you ask to the developer?

I think is your OS... OH! BTW is overclocked? check it with TCPMP if it says more than 205MHZ its overclocked and its about to crack the processor down so disable the overclock to your "TI OMAP 850"...

What else the batt problem its caused by the OS sometimes but the not accurated info may be the batt is damaged... but we need more info.
[General Questions and Answers] bstylz911:
well ok im kinda noob at this but i will try my best in anwser ur questions

oww and just to say that i bought this phone from a friend and it is unlocked

storage memory

total - 47.46

in use - 29.30

free - 18.16

program memory

total - 47.69

in use - 26.47

free - 21.22

my photos, games, apps are installed into my memory stick which is 2g if that makes any difference

and yes i sms alot but i frequently clean my inbox and outbox

my OS is 6.1

ROM i dunno how to check that

my clock speed in TCPMP is 168Mhz

and my battery is not really damaged

the only thing is that the plastic skin is coming off on a few sides
[General Questions and Answers] orb3000:
Have you considered doing a hard reset?

It always help

Have a deep read here:

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Wizard

Good luck,
[General Questions and Answers] AIN1:
you must to check it out!

orb 3000 has a easy way to go out from any trouble... but if the rom has that trouble everytime you need to upgrade to other 6.1, i know that 6.1 can run so well on wizards because of the omap processor but there are many nice coocker that has made gresat imoprovements to the system like mr cracing please cehck your rom version spl and ipl to check if you are G4 or g3 device and go to that forum and flash another one... there are many to try.

thanks paisa nice try. oups im writing with my brothers account hahahaha. im + que ppc
[General Questions and Answers] bstylz911:
is there any way instead of hard reset?

because i dun wanna lose everything i installed then reinstall again
[General Questions and Answers] + Que PPC:
Everything you had installed?

so... thats maybe the reason, it seems that some app you had installed is mking all your troubles..

Can you tell us what apps you hadinstalled please... mybe one is to heavy for the system.
[General Questions and Answers] bstylz911:
i have alot of apps install to my opinion

and most of them are stored in my memory stick

the one in my main memory are

Hbutton

icontact

imageviewer

oxios

pocketscreen

s2p

sipchange

throttlelock

thumbcal

touchresponse

windows media player

bluetoggler
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] hotweiss:
I have two questions about modded the ROM's for the HTC Magic:

1) Which one is the quickest?

2) Which one is the most fully featured?

3) Which one is the best?

Thanks.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Wombat:
1) The one that runs best on your phone.

2) The one that looks like its got a lot of things on your phone.

3) The one that you like the most on your phone.

It's personal preference, try them all...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] bluekieran:
Try Ion, Try Rogers, skip Hero.

Ion is fastest and has some features (like voice search) that Rogers lacks.

Rogers has Exchange sync, not available elsewhere. I find it slow but I'm sticking with it for now.

Hero is pretty and full-featured but dog slow.
[Off-topic] DaveTheTytnIIGuy:
It's finally happened: True, wireless charging with NO base station.

Article:

From a Yahoo! Tech article:

Maybe this will make its way to our devices someday...

Dave

(If this has been posted before, feel free to delete, Mods.)
[Off-topic] + Que PPC:
There are already solar chargers mobile

In JAPAN the solar charging systems comes to town in a small stick around the back of the phone that allows to use less batt power... keeping it safe more time... i saw in tv and i never search in google for it... if one is trying to do it please post something about...
[Off-topic] -Jonny-:
wo! so what happens to my head when we reach 50mw of radiation floating around! perhaps we could just put our devices into a microwave and set on low for 30 seconds!

(this is just a humerous post, and isn't intended to offend or infuriate anyone!)
[Off-topic] kdj67f:
Is this like the wifi charging article from april? :D
[Off-topic] galaxys:
cool battery charging technology...hopefully HTC is taking notes :)
[Off-topic] -Jonny-:
he he! nice one :) :D :p :)
[Off-topic] josefcrist:
sweet i cant wait until i have a piece of this technology in my pocket. I also like the idea of having a solar panel on the phone except my phone is in a holster most of the time and i would not like to leave it out in the sun.
[Off-topic] character:
WHOAH!!!

this is really amazing if it can be implemented on pocketpc
[Off-topic] -PiLoT-:
oid like wi fi charging

that would be cool

its a good thing the whole battery memory issues ws solved though

i think that was when old batteries would forget there chrge oif they kept getting charged repeatefdly
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] awca22:
Hi xda developers comunity , im trying to seel my htc tytn for parts cause i dont want to continue battling with it....

A month ago i got a problem with the screen that it didnt respond to touch but keyboard was working so i just had it without the touchscreen, but heres where the problem came i tried to flash it to a newer one but im stuck at the calibration part because i cant calibrate it so i know the screen is damaged

What im selling :

The logic board i in excellent shape.

Housing ( Have many wore and tear , battery cover is really damage) Heavily Used

Battery

Usb Cable

European Wall Charger or USA Charger

Car Charger

Speakers Work

Camera Works

What Doesnt Work:

LCD Screen

Housing

In the box :

Phone

Two Chargers European and Usa

Usb Cable

Car Charger( Motorola One )

No returns , No Refunds

100$ plus shipping

Paypal Only

Selling it because im ruin i cant afford to pay rent the Manager is almost kicking me out.

PM me for more information
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] galaxys:
You may have better luck in the Marketplace section: http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=476

Have a MOD move this thread for you...duplicate threads are not allowed! good luck
[HTC Excalibur] brad1825:
Now that we have at least one pretty solid 6.5 rom, I'd like to see this be a thread of Excalibur compatible windows mobile 6.5 themes.

Post any you have made.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hdubli:
Already running it on my p835.

more details here : http://asus.forumpro.eu/p835-f11/rom-preview-65-build-21812-t38.htm#223

if needed i will upload.pls let me know :)

uploaded.Pls check on the above link
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nghiattvn:
Yes, pls upload it. I really like it. Thank you!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lizard999:
Thanks so much for your work, can't wait to download, downloading.......
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] andycmc:
:) d/l in process, will try out immediately, thanks a lot !
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] steveling:
could you make the wm65 chinese ver.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] steveling:
when i dial the number ,the number can not show on the top bar .how can i do.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lizard999:
Use Advanced config to disable phone skin, then you will see the dialing number.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] kencwh:
It is nice, the machine's response is quicker than before. Other is testing, thank you.

Also can you make a version with Extented Rom v2.33 or latest v2.36?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sandeep6372:
ASUS P835 how to synch with Vista and Windows Mobile Device Center

ASUS P835 how to synch with Vista and Windows Mobile Device Center.

Vista could not recognise the ASUS P835?

Please help. For this I can not go back to XP

Sandeep Kulkarni
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lizard999:
Hi hdubli

I have been using your P835 WM6.5 Rom since it release, it is great.

Will you release lite version of WM6.5 ROM for P835, It would be perfect to have a clear WM6.5 rom without any ASUS pre-install software, thanks.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] xenon_art:
I cannot go to the link to asus.forumpro.eu

my browser keep redirect me to asus.fr-bb.com

what happen?

I try search the forum and see no details instruction how to flash P835 rom. I normally use HTC device and they need hard-spl. Do asus need any? O I just run *.exe to install the rom

Thanks in advance.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] AaronHTC:
do you have Asian regional file???