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[Touch CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
I'm on sprint using the latest kernel and initrd (but not hero, I am still using themed ion) and I have never modified my username and password. Whatever is in the standard default.txt has always worked for me.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] myshinynewtouch:
has the sms sent message working properly ? have you tried it out yet ?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
Sure, it's always worked. The themed ion build is 99.99% in my opinion. The other 0.01% being the bug when switching to landscape and not being able to switch back without sleeping the phone.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] canyoufindben:
ShinyNew, which build are you using? Do you have a GSM or CDMA touch?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] myshinynewtouch:
I was talking about the sms message as in, even though the sms was sent, it still displays as sms message not sent due to a problem in the initrd which was not able to capture the sms sent message sent back from the network.. this bug was documented until recently. i dont know if the rootfs fixed it or not and the language on google code was specifying only gsm touch, so didn't know if cdma was also fixed as part of it..

i am on sprint htc touch cdma network (my vogue doesn't have wifi either )
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
it is not a problem in the initrd... it is unfixed.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] canyoufindben:
I understand, but if you are using the Ion build or mssmison's hero "themed" build you don't get that error. I've only seen it in mssmison's Actual Hero Build (that may have changed, haven't used it in a week), or zenulator's Hero build.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] thoughtlesskyle:
so i have a question, i liked the touch screen keyboard on the hero alot, is there anyway to port just that to the ION rom, i like its onscreen keyboard but the one on the hero just feels smoother to me
[Touch CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
It's alread there, called touch input. Long press a text box (not the search widget, though, try a sms message) and select input method, then touch input. That's it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
Why not just use mssmison's Hero Lite build? There's a chance it won't read your SD card, but if it does, then you might as well use that.

I personally don't notice much difference, but I haven't done a lot of typing within the Hero builds. As I'm unlucky enough that my SD card doesn't read in mssmison's builds, I don't use it much.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
It's already there, called touch input. Long press a text box (not the search widget, though, try a sms message) and select input method, then touch input. That's it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] thoughtlesskyle:
thank you for your help
[Touch CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
My personal issue with the hero builds are the fact that we can't change resolution. I can't stand improper aspect ratios, like when people make 4:3 tv shows wide to fit the widescreen tvs.

Plus, the ion build screams on my touch. :D
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
Haha, oh you're one of THOSE! I can put up with slightly ovalish circles until Telus gets some real android phones though.

Yeah, I totally understand. And I didn't realize thoughtlesskyle just meant the HTC versus the Android kb. I know there's a slight difference between the HTC kb's between Ion and Hero builds, I thought that's what he meant.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] aross6:
I'm with you all the way on your points here bro...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] fixxxer2008:
is the new rootfs that was released today for gsm only? i installed it on my cdma and upon boot up my sms crashed. i uninstalled and put the 8-1-09 and all was fine again. :confused:
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheKartus:
Works fine on my Verizon Vogue. Everything is still running fast and smooth on the hero theme. Hopefully it does improve battery life too.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] fixxxer2008:
yeah but is your phone gsm or cdma?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheKartus:
Verizon, American CDMA.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] fixxxer2008:
ill give it another go i guess
[Touch CDMA Android Development] fixxxer2008:
ill give it anther go i guess
[Touch CDMA Android Development] fixxxer2008:
anybody elses internet stop working if its idle and you have to manually start it after upgrading to the newest rootfs?

nm, i see this may be part of the power saving features?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
since using rootfs and initrd (working with hero themed ion) over the last two days I've had intermittent sms come through in chinese or other weird characters, from my wife's phone who is on sprint with me. the funny thing is, like every other message she sends is fine, but every other is scrambled chines characters. anyone else experience this?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheKartus:
What is new in the recent system.img uploads to the google code page? Any significant updates? Is there anything new in that bundle that was not added separately that we should grab?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] akyboy:
i am using latest build so fast clean very nice,....!

just a q,... is there any similar dialer and keyboard as from HTC Hero (they r awesome)?

Any recommendation would be appropriated!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] thoughtlesskyle:
i just asked about the keyboard like 3 pages back,

go onto a text bar (not the search widget, try an SMS message) do a long press it should come up with an option for input method, or something like that, change from android keyboard to touch keyboard thats the hero keyboard
[Touch CDMA Android Development] akyboy:
Very nice! Thank you so much!

Anything better for dialer? Like Her smartdialing thingy?

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Maybe somebody `ripped` of dialer from Hero already , i searched but cant find anything (maybe not possible?)

Tnx again!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheKartus:
Mssmision's Hero build and his Rogers build have a smart dialer type of thing. So does Zenulator's hero builds. You can try and use one of these if you like. AFAIK there isn't a cupcake build with that sort of dialer, unless you can get one in the market but I don't know about that.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] akyboy:
i tried both those builds, (lite and full) as well as Zenulator's hero build ... iv been trying to use them each, for day or two, they r to unreliable and slow.

Only thing i really miss from them is that dialer,...

edit: i was missing keyboard ,... but no more :) - tnx thoughtlesskyle ;)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] thoughtlesskyle:
i would try the Hero Lite build, or a hero themed cupcake build

i'm not sure if either of them have the dialer your looking for though,

give them a try, hopefully your sd card mounts so you can still use the market, never hurts to experiment
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheKartus:
The lite builds do have the dialer, the hero themed cupcake build does not.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] akyboy:
no more time to experiment :( back to work, need working phone 24/7 :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] thoughtlesskyle:
haha i would find a cheap phone to use for work and keep your vogue for testing, then when you find the perfect build for you switch it back, thats my me and my treo pro get along so well, it knows its only there so i can experiment on my touch, she doesnt get jealous
[Touch CDMA Android Development] akyboy:
lol i understand, but honestly i am happy with ION last build aug 4 2009 very nice and stable,.....

btw,... i downloaded starcontacts and acontact (free dialer replacements) have to decide which one to keep ;)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] thoughtlesskyle:
yea thats the build i keep going back to also,

i just wish i knew enough about programing to be able to combine things from builds

like enhancements from the hero to the ion like the flash browser and some of the widgets
[Touch CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
Is flash working? I just may have to put up with the ovals for flash ;)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] thoughtlesskyle:
i havent had it connected to the web when i had it on my phone, but if its the hero rom down to the widgets the flash browser would come with it, i know the browser icon is differnt so i would imagine
[Touch CDMA Android Development] prairiefire:
No GPS connection when outside of cell range. A bug perhaps?

Hey everyone,

I just got back from a backcountry hiking trip (5 days in the alpine on Vancouver Island) and was excited to test out the GPS along with an app that I purchased (BigPlanet). The plan was to cache all the topographical maps I needed so that once out of cell range, I could continue using my Vogue as a GPS unit. (Also bought a spare battery, however it didn't arrive in time and so I was forced to only turn on my phone a couple of times during the trip). When I did try out the GPS, it was unable to find my location. All times I tried to connect to a satellite I was way above the tree line and had clear skies.

I wonder, has anyone had a GPS connection when outside of cell range? I seem to recall that the GPS code was taken from WinMo (which uses aGPS, and btw, did not connect either, however all I had in WinMo was Google Maps and it wouldn't allow me to continue any further after it noticed I had no data connection to download the corresponding map). So, if there are remnants of aGPS in the code, could it be possible that the phone is aware that there is no cell tower signal and this could be affecting it's connection to GPS sattelite? My apologies if this logic makes no sense. I am curious if I have discovered a bug. I was using the latest files (initrd, zImage) from the Google Code page prior to leaving (July 29th) with both the July 27th Ion system image and mssmison's July 22 system image.

Great work Dzo, vilord, mssmison, swalter, derekwilkinson, zenulator (and everyone else I forgot. Without your tireless work, none of this would be possible! :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] aven_soulgazer:
It does on some websites. You can go to Yahoo's movie page and watch trailers to movies that are flash. The full Youtube site works. It's kinda hit and miss on what flash sites work. It's not the porters fault, it's how it is in the hero as far as I've been able to tell. I watched a video of a guy that works for Adobe showing off the Hero and he said that it's not a full flash player yet but they're working on it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
I am looking through the applications in manage application settings and see a com.htc.flash Was this just a test to see if the flash from Hero would work on ion? Just curious.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jaredakelly:
which was the fastest out of all of them
[Touch CDMA Android Development] akyboy:
hero lite ,.. but so many other things didn't work, i mentioned this hero lite thread,...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] BenRivera:
Lost LCD.Density option

I tried the latest 1.5 build of 8/4/09 and my screen is all scrunch up. I have tried the 320x428x160 (WxHxD), but it produces a slightly blurry screen. I have been using 240x320x120 and it was clear as WM.

Neither one of the new Hero Builds work for me either, they just display the Hero logo then HTC and then goes back to Hero logo.....

Is there something that needs to be done, other than replacing the files in these new builds?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheKartus:
For the Hero builds to get past the logos screens your resolution MUST be 320x480 with a density of 160. These builds will NOT work with any other settings.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] akyboy:
So you're using those settings with 1.5 (aug 4 2009) now and its all nice and clear?

id like to try same blurry problem here
[Touch CDMA Android Development] BenRivera:
Thanks, that worked. But my screen is slightly blurry again....:mad:
[Touch CDMA Android Development] akyboy:
LOL, i put

240x320x120 and it was clear as WM.

For 1.5 and its all HUGEEEE ;)

But very easy to see, text or icons r not blurry at all!

Whats best (easy on eue) setting would guys recommended?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheKartus:
There is just no avoiding that though with the Hero builds since those are the only settings that they will accept. If you want it crisper, you could use one of the 1.5 Ion or Cupcake builds. Then you can use a correct aspect ratio and have it no be blurry.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
320*428*160
[Touch CDMA Android Development] akyboy:
Hehe i just put 320*428 without density and it better ,.... but,... whats that density doing anyway ?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] akyboy:
new files r just coming out :)

Every time i press refresh something new :)

Thanks guys!

http://code.google.com/p/vogue-andr... Filename Summary Uploaded Size DownloadCount
[Touch CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
It's the lcd.density setting. 160 was the default, but with the introduction of Hero we had to specify this in default.txt
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheKartus:
Whats in the new system file and new roofts?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] BenRivera:
lcd.density does NOT work on the 1.5 - 8/4/09 version. This worked great on the 1.5 from 7/27/09
[Touch CDMA Android Development] akyboy:
Aha ok,... i had it as 160 anyway ;)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] BenRivera:
lcd.density doesn't work on the 8/6/09 build either.....:mad:
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
whoops, you're right I'll have to fix the LCD.density code, it was designed for the old memory filesystem, not rootfs... I'll add it to my list for tonight :D

What else is not working with ion?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] derekwilkinson:
Haha, I hate to make a useless post, but when people have replies like this, it makes me laugh.

You're getting angry (:mad:) over something that is free!

Does anyone else find this comical? :D
[Touch CDMA Android Development] BenRivera:
Great, thx

I can't set the Notification sound. It comes up on the screen but no sounds are available, just OK nd Cancel.

For Ringtones it was the same way. But once I set a sound as my ringtone it shows up on the list of available ringtones to choose from. Only sounds that have been choosen before are available, otherwise this list would be empty like Notifications.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] akyboy:
Thank you!

Very nice!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheKartus:
I really hate to ask these same questions over and over again, but what is new in the updated system images?

Is a lot of improvement to where I should switch from the I guess outdated hero themed mssmision image?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
Don't get mad, get glad!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bihNCtNMYME
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
thekartus, if the mssmison system image is working for you, don't bother switching. The latest changes were for kaiser wlan, and to fix the Superuser.apk and the su command.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
Just a note that screen rotation (cam+left) doesnt work in mssmison's themed builds, so if your image is based on his, or vice versa, then that might be nice to have fixed.

I'll try your new builds tonight so I can get Martin some mddi logs from paneltype=3 now that su is fixed.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheKartus:
Thanks, I'll probably stick with it then. Although I may consider going back to the Ion and standard android look.

The rotation thing is known, and I think its only with the themed build. But its easily fixed if you just sleep your phone and wake it up, or go into a different app and rotate back.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] canyoufindben:
Download resources.zip from http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android/downloads/list and extract it to your SD card. That will have your system ringtones, notification tones, and wallpapers in it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] femmyade2001:
I have an issue where my sd card seems not to be mounted right. When i try to pick a ringtone, it just crashes out. Any clue as to what the problem might be?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] canyoufindben:
Who's and What build are you using?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
LOL wow, and I thought *I* was off topic by discussing 32-bit vs 64-bit Win7 in the kernel thread.

In regards to the video, there's something about girls with squeaky voices that kinda turns me on. Weird.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] xeongx:
Is google happy with the Android on Vogue? If they are, why won't they make their own version to run on vogue??
[Touch CDMA Android Development] femmyade2001:
I am using mssmison's hero.zip files from 4days ago...:confused:
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
Yes, this is a known issue, and it's why I don't use the hero builds at the moment.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] femmyade2001:
ok...thanks. I cant wait till it's fixed though.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
Haha, you and me both.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] fixxxer2008:
WOW you fixed the su permissions, now all my apps work as root, thanks man!

question though, how can i get rid of that blue outline on the taskbar? also is there a way to change the lock screen to that of the hero with the battery meter?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] akyboy:
Is there a way to reboot Android? I found something about Green+ RED + menu - but it doesn't work
[Touch CDMA Android Development] KERKEDAGAIN:
It unofficially is fixed..after a little Frankensteining. Start a fresh zenulator data.img then put in the desired msmission hero system/initrd/rootfs and you're as good as gold. Running msmissions Hero full at great speeds n full funtionality!! (even seem to have better success getting all my text messages!)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] derekwilkinson:
Without going to Windows Mobile? Not that I know of.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] fixxxer2008:
can we change the taskbar to all black on the nk hero build? that blue looks out of place. ;)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] fixxxer2008:
it would be cool if we could reboot, im just glad we can now run apps in root mode! :D
[Touch CDMA Android Development] BenRivera:
Red + Green gives you a Phone Options dialog. Power Off shuts the phone down and when you press the power button it reboots (on the 7/27/09 build at least)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
Works for me with mssmison's hero themed ion. try from home page menu > more > extended > sensor based orientation, uncheck it. Or go to Settings > sound and display > orientation and uncheck it. Try one or the other, it's been working fine for me.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
I did post a workaround in mssmison's thread, search my posts if you want to get mssmison's working with albums, market etc able to access the SD card.

EDIT: KERKEDAGAIN already took the time to write it out I see.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jnrbshp:
you only need to hold RED for phone options
[Touch CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
Cheers, works great!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] BenRivera:
Correct, my bad
[Touch CDMA Android Development] fireshaper:
I just updated to the newest ion build and keep getting "process android.process.acore has stopped unexpectedly" errors with only force close as an option. Should I try a new data.img? Also, I didn't wipe the card first, I just replaced the files.

UPDATE: Nevermind, I backed up my card, deleted everything from it and started with fresh files and a fresh data.img and everything works fine. This looks great, guys, and sooooo fast!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] fixxxer2008:
Please make another hero themed nk build but get rid of that blue clock highlight on the taskbar, its too pronounced and out of place. Sorry but im anal about stuff like that. Also is there a way to make our lockscreen look like heros or mmisions build?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] omgwtfbbqkthxbai:
you should take all the time you spend asking these frighteningly similar, inane questions and learn to code. in the controversial words of mmision, "we have way bigger fish to fry," seriously.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
Amen. I told fixxxer2008 to talk to mssmison about how to do theming yesterday. And now that I think about it, don't even bother mssmison with this. There's a thread on one of the other forums about theming android... probably the Dream forum. Go check there.

Do it yourself, or quit bellyaching.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
i've noticed a change in my battery consumption since running the new initrd.gz with rootfs with my mssmision hero themed ion. specifically, I always charge my phone all night (i'm off charger around 5:30-6a), and don't use it much at all in the morning and always check my battery between 10:30 and noon. I've noticed that with the new rootfs stuff, I'm down in the 60s by this time; I'm down below 10% with light use by 9pm. switching back to initrd.gz from 7/30/09, I'm back to my usual 80s-90s at noon, and lasting much longer into the evening with good reserve.

Seems the rootfs is most useful with the hero builds that are memory hungry. anything else I'm loosing (besides ppp apn upgrades) by using this older build?

TIA vilrod, keep up the strong work.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] natefish:
So does a long press on the red button
[Touch CDMA Android Development] femmyade2001:
Hey guys, so i did all that...i generated a new data.img file with android 1.5 files, but i still cant download files from market. It keeps crashing out with a process.core.media or something:(

I can now get to my ringtones though:)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
interesting updater for cyanogen builds:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=544663

so did you use only zenulator's files to boot without a data.img, allow it to create one, go through all the setup to get google stuff working and have a working zenulator's build, and THEN swap out all files except the data.img for mssmison's full hero?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] femmyade2001:
This might be a little dumb, but how do i know which files are zenularor's files?

i downloaded the files i used from here: http://code.google.com/p/vogue-andr... Filename Summary Uploaded Size DownloadCount

am i supposed to look for zenulator's files somewhere else? If so, could you post me the link plz?

Thanks
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheKartus:
Zenulator has his own google code page. I believe it is linked from this thread. You won't find any of his builds on the 1.5 google code page.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] femmyade2001:
...got it! I found his page and i'm about to install the files and follow the instructions! I will keep you posted.

Thanks!:D
[Touch CDMA Android Development] JacenSolo2001:
Just hit the download page...whats the difference in:

android-1.5-2009-08-07.zip and android-1.5-2009-08-06.zip (apart from the date), what's been updated, I'm running the one marked 08-06 (with no wifi)

Thanks!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] femmyade2001:
...worked like a charm! thanks!!!:D
[Touch CDMA Android Development] KERKEDAGAIN:
I'm noticing the same drop in battery life n its killing me..is it possible you can upload the 7-30 initrd as Ive gotten into the bad habit of overwriting my files..:o
[Touch CDMA Android Development] femmyade2001:
...if you use the vogue, i dont think it's much difference since the vogue doesnt even have wifi. I installed em both on my vogue, and i didnt notice anything.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
Helpful hint I just discovered: All older files are still posted on the google code site. Just do a search for "initrd" or whatever you are looking for and ensure that the search scope is set to "All downloads"
[Touch CDMA Android Development] sshark:
If you change "search" from current downloads to all downloads, you will see old files.

I have also noticed bad battery life on hero themed ION, so finally switched to Google ION....hoping to see some improvement....

Is battery life driven by INITRD/zImage/Rootfs or by System.img???
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheKartus:
As far as I know, the main updates in the new system images are fixes for Kaiser WiFi, superuser permissions, and other under the surface fixes and improvements. Probably nothing totally noticeable unless your using a Kaiser or trying to use apps that need root access.