yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
Wow this thread got a lot of posts since I last read it! Anyway, sorry about the delay on a new build. Don't have a lot of time right now because we are preparing for a yard sale over the weekend and are selling a lot of big things.

The things I will be trying to focus on (but am not guaranteed to fix) are going to be, wakeup on sms (kills battery, causes unwanted screen touches,) the g-sensor auto rotation problem, speeding up the manila weather animations, and any other fixes that I can find while i am at it. :P

Manila or non manila version?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] EgorLev:
Manila version. on nhathoa rom I usually get 1.5 days of my kind of use

The very good thing I'd like to point in is delaying reminders with time selection options like on older WM. did you managed to make it yourself?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] lehmac:
Hello

i need the rsap protokoll for bluetooth, where can i enable it ????
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] GuiPoM:
Hi shadowline !

My first post here, I have discovered your work through the ROM cooked by agent47. You are doing a great work !

My question : I just have discovered your autumn theme that I like a lot. I was wondering if it was possible, in order to better fit with a Hero like wallpaper, that taskbar and softbar remains transparent, as they are when pressing start, or as they are if I use titanium menu. By default, I use HTC Sense, and the bars are both grey (dark at the bottom, lighter at the top).

=>

(Just to illustrate my question, I'd like top bar to look like the manila top bar (where is written 3G SFR) and the bottom one, to look **** the manila bottom bar.

I tried to mod your tsk theme by replacing:

WMBHTC_taskbar.png

WMBHTC_softkeybar.png

on top bar, I put a transparent one, on bottom one something with 50% transparency, just to test. It works on start screen, but is replaced by the grey backgrounds when running programs (manila, etc ...)

Have you time to advice me what to do ? or maybe it will give you a new theme idea :D Thanks !
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ruscik:
Wakeup on sms can be fixed with TD2 tools. It is not a problem it is a function.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Angus9000:
ok, after running a couple of shadowline builds on my new topaz, i decided to give the stock 6.5 build a try, to find out the differences between manila 2.1 and 2.5, and between windows mobile 6.5 and 6.5.1

so far, i must say i expected worse from the stock rom. it runs pretty well, and i don't seem to miss any key functionality: weather is there, facebook integration is there, everything is pretty similar. actually, it appears that the stock rom comes with manila 2.1.1, wth the colored buttons at the bottom and some basic weather animation. however no twitter and footprint tabs, etc.

i have the feeling that windows mobile 6.5.1 performs a bit faster, and i also like the interface changes (start button at the bottom, for instance) which i miss in the stock build.

but, running this stock build i noticed a few things i actually quite like and am missing from shadowline's rom, so i thought i might make a little list :P

- volume control: i like the htc volume ontrol that pop up when pressing the volume keys, sadly it is not available on shadowline

- i really like the notifications page which pops up when tapping the top bar. in shadowline's build some icons pop up, whereas in the stock build you ge an (htc i guess) page with everything in one place, which is more comfortable

- i also really like the task manager drop down, that you get by tapping the right corner in the top bar. seems to be htc stuff as well, missing from shadowline's

- another thing i noticed is the notification popup for a calendar reminder. in the stock rom, i can easily snooze or dismiss the reminder, in the 23502 build i got a weird popup multiple times where i just could click ok. weird...

- oh and of course, the gsensor works over here, and there is a nice game whih i believe is not included in shadowlines (but am not sure): teeter

all in all i was planning to try dutty's rom as well (which is wm 6.5.0 and manila 2.5) but actually i must say that i miss wm 6.5.1 more than i do miss manila 2.5... so my next rom might be one of the future shadowline's builds, hoping that he manages to fix the current g-sensor and battery problems, and who knows, maybe fullfill some of my wishes from the above list? :)

cheers!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] florinr08:
I too am completely ALL IN for the Volume Control, Notifications page and the Task Manager, all from HTC, I presume.

About the reminder thing, I thought there was always a snooze and dismiss button that you could press.

As for the games, Shadowline's 23088x2 includes both Teeter and a new one called Xtrakt. That one's from Sony Ericsson's Xperia phone and it runs really well and I've only played it once but I like it! :D

But yeah, in summary, I really would like to see the Task Manager, Volume Control and Notifications page into this ROM! :D All in order of most wanted. :p
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] zard:
Manila 2.5, of course!

Thanks.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] lagefrequentie:
my time will not sync in active sync, messages that i recieve are coming in later then messages i repley to, so it will set the message i reply to at the bottem and the thing i answer as a reply before the 1 i send?

hoe can i change the name of my location, it will not download weather on that?

great rom x2, just working out the details!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ruscik:
Task manager drop down - does not work in 6.5.1 as X button has been moved.

Volume control - for some reason does not work with 6.5.1

notification page - does not work as in 6.5.1 there is another pop up bar built in to windows.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] florinr08:
Oh come on, there must be a way to move all the icons and time over to the left a notch and slip in a button for the Task Manager.. -.-

There must be a way for Volume Control to work, it's just a program that controls the master volume level that triggers when the volume rocker up/down is pressed. Is it that difficult??

And the notification page? I'm not sure if we're talking about the same window elements here but I'm certain I've seen this work in 6.5.1!

Do you actually know these for a fact or are just stating these as you think they are??
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
no, it is a fact that they do not work on the new builds. The volume manager is sketchy at best (seems that it tries to pull up both the wm one and the htc one and causes neither to work), the task manager is just a no go for now until htc does something to fix it, and the notification manager semi works but its just a game of roulette on getting it to actually show that vs the wm one.

They are broken and only htc can fix them as the bugs are hard coded into the applications themselves, and can no longer communicate with WM properly, or just were not designed for the new style taskbar. Though I do think someday soon there will be a change in that and HTC will update them to work with 6.5.1 as it gets closer to official.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Angus9000:
thank you for your explanations :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] blublub:
Hi

I have one most likely easy problem but which I am not able to solve myself.

I can set rintones, no prob here that just works fine.

However I just cannot get sounds/tones for incoming sms or email to work.

For that I am using wav and mp3 an I have tried the "sound" folders in \Windows and \Program folders - Can someone please tel me where to put the files, which formats work (bitrate / size limitations) etc... it is really giving me a headache! (I had this problems with ervery version I have tried yet)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] User_99:
No problem here so far. I copied my mp3 files for incomming SMS to the "windows" folder and the files for incomming calls to "windows/rings" folder. Make my settings and all works like a charme.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] RufusThorne:
Mirrors

High-speed mirrors:

Non-Manila version:

http://mobile.mothdesigns.co.uk/ROM_Releases/RELEASE_TOPAZ_23088x2NM_Shadowline.zip

Manila version:

http://mobile.mothdesigns.co.uk/ROM_Releases/RELEASE_TOPAZ_23088x2M_Shadowline.zip
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] florinr08:
In my opinion I think that they've changed the software over so much (Windows Mobile 6.5.1) that I want to have just that with absolutely no Manila on there (not even Messaging or any trace of Manila) just so that I get to feel what it's like to operate WM on its own with all its proprietary windows and apps. I still would prefer some apps from Manila instead some of WM's ones but it'd just be nice to try it out... :p

What are everyone's thoughts? :p
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Marandus:
Hi there!

Just wanted to report in that I do not see a real difference in battery use in the 23088x2 Manila build. My phone is up for over 24h now and lost about 50% of the battery...not really different from the older builds.

The builds are really nice and with gyrator for the g-sensor it really works like a charm. Thanks for the good work!

EDIT: Oh btw...is it possible to get German keyboard layout on the 23088x2 build? I would really appreciate a QWERTZ keyboard instead of a QWERTY.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] blublub:
Mhh, I however am running 23504 and I loose 78% in 24h without a lot of use (checking email every 2h, 15-20 phoe use and about 15min internet use per day)...I by myself actually totally dislike the battery :(

I also would like a QWERTZ keyboard!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] VistaX:
Are you cooking a new rom now adays, Shadowline?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
Yes, in fact, I am.

New features in this build include, hopefully better battery management, New battery icon (% increments,) Showcase suite (now working with manila,) The inclusion of the "NoData" tool, 26MB PP by default, 2.18 OEMDrivers (as a test,) Speed enhancements, and hopefully much more. :D

Edit:

After some testing, 2.18 is the new default for my roms. :D

You all should enjoy it, especially its new charging feature, which is a first I have seen on a HTC phone so far. :cool:

Edit2:

Unofficial Test rom release, test and report back, so I can tweak for the full release coming later if needed. No auto rotation for apps again though, but I am hopeful for the future on that.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=E18IVRWG
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] VistaX:
When do you think this build will be ready for release, and is the rotating back (in photo, music and sms/email/mms wrighting)? And do you know if it's possible to install a .cab file with T9 norwegian spelling?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
Just look up. ;)

It is only a test build (due to a lot of changes, I want to make sure it is still stable), so test for any bugs then report back so there can be a full release of it later tonight.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] pencilcase:
QWERTZ is possible, just change it (press the keyboard at the right side, select GERMAN)

the batteryloss is non-existent for me on 23088x2.

follow these 3 steps after flashing:

a) flash, then hardreset

b) let the batter drain completely

c) reload fully

the other thing that could be causing this would be that pressing X does not really close apps. for this, use a taskmanager like showcase suite or similar that enables you to CLOSE apps when pressing X.

hope this helps
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] tomoooo:
short review of 23506x1M :-)

Hi Shadowline

Speed is ok, for me fast and responsive except for picture scrolling which is slow - in full screen

all settings -> customer feedback - does nothing

* opera zoom bar not working

* fever ring tones as usually not a issue at all, I was just used to some of them

* battery meter looks good

Tried it also with max manilla 2.5, no problems so far

video playback is working w.o. problems

I did not tried footprints, facebook or twitter, as these are apps, I do not use.

Activesync works without any problems without special tweaks and settings.

So far GREAT work.

THANKS A LOT, donation sent to you.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] rob_brum:
Only issue so far click on 'Showcase' and nothing happens.... no idea whats it does though!

using latest 'test release'
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ruscik:
I want so get all my issues together plus share some news:

I use 23504.5.5.0 version.

- TomTom does not install when manilla is running, it just starts and hangs on the first screen. It installs fine with manilla off.

- Battery lasts much longer with manilla off, over a day on WM couple of hours on manilla

- When playing just music using media player or default manila player it hangs the device after around 5 min if screen is turned off. If I use the device all the time it is fine. I have already switched off all power management options for memory card. When manilla is off and I use media player the same happens but after 90 min to 2h. The same power management options are off.

- G sensor problem

- WorldCard mobile does not work - what does it do?

- BT button does not work

Now the news.

Today while having a ride on my Monster and listening to some tunes they suddenly stopped. When I looked down why phone was gone. I was on the slip road going to Motorway doing around 80MPH, maybe a bit more.

Phone was gone out of my bag, doh.

Stopped and went to see what was left, found battery and it is fine, found phone looks very poor but works!!!!! GPS is touch and go but a good bang gets it working. Talking about build quality last phone that I lost that way has been found in 20 pieces.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] dragonkaiser:
23506X1

Nice Work :).

After 30mn of all king of testing all thing is working fast and smooth,except for:

showcase is not working

Opera zoom bar not working.

I found a graphic bug in the remove program :eek:.See the picture attached .

Keep up the good work :rolleyes:

edit:

showcase work but take quite some time for the first launch after its ok
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] florinr08:
You said you didn't notice a real difference in battery usage in the 23088x2M build. Are you using the latest radio ROM or an older one and if so, which version?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] bmxrideher:
Will this be compatible?

I feel dumb for asking, but I have a Touch Pro/ Fuze. I didn't see any devices that this would work with or if it will work with all devices. It's a really beautiful ROM and I would love to be able to flash it
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] florinr08:
Sorry but this ROM will ONLY work for the Touch Diamond2 (Topaz). If you want any cooked ROM's for your Touch Pro (Fuze), you must search for ROM's in Fuze's ROM development page, sorry.. :/
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
So other than showcase not immediately showing in the new build, any other bugs besides the known? How is battery? and speed?

The graphics glitch in the remove programs is something that happens to me at random with other areas too (like setting up an exchange server for example.)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] rolandyip:
Found got 2 [ clear storage ] on setting >system.

Hope new rom can add in Brain's Taskbar WM6.5 http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=520547
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] orlean:
issues

Hi,

The rom is very nice and stable.

Two issues only:

1. settings-personal NO input. (For example I use SPB keyboard, there is no way to add additional layouts as this is controlled there.

2. No screen rotation available.

Regards
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
oooh two icons... that is interesting. I will look at that too. (Edit: Found what you are talking about. Quite strange they don't seem to share the same icon either.)

Some fun facts for all of you about my rom kitchen.

(really it is just me realizing that I need to clean up my rom kitchen a bit... lol)

There are 12 6.5.1 SYS versions ready to cook in my kitchen, ranging from 21869 all the way through to the latest 23506.

It is set up to handle both Rhodium and Topaz roms from the same kitchen, Cutting down on the time it would take to carry separate kitchens for each version.

There are 24 Packaged rom builds ready for flashing, dating back from 10/5/09 till today at 11/15/09, all of which take a whopping 3.80GB of hard drive space.

There are 18,468 EXT files shared across the topaz and rhodium versions, though not all are used in the builds.

There are 141 EXT Packages that go into making a leo-based rom.

There are 438 .reg files that are part of the EXT packages.

The entire Kitchen itself costs about 10GB worth of hard drive space, which multiplied by three (backups) takes about 30GB.

Some screenshots from the last test build are attached. The first shot shows off the new battery icon. The last is of the new charging feature, while on standby.

Video Preview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZzgUi7szX4
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cubanaso:
First of all, ive been a fan of your roms even when i was with my att fuze, lol...your custom graphics and designs gave me the extra push to purchase a pure because i felt like i was missing out...

On your latest 23506 rom it definitely feels more stable and responsive than its predecessors. Iam glad to see you got showcase working on it as well. Now what I personally think it missing is a few more custom graphics to bring it all together. It would be real cool to see a custom theme that flows together nicely with manila 2.5. I have some experience with photoshop and graphic designing and I would be more than happy to help out. Maybe your logo over the start button?

Also, one of my only complaints is the phone canvas. There is a considerable lag between answering calls. It has been noted on the forumn and it seems that the Leo phone canvas solves that issue. Ive used the phone canvas on other roms and it definitely is more responsive. Is there any way we can get that on board?

Thanks again for your great work.

P.S. how do i get one of your banners on my signature????
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
Thing is, I can fix that problem by using the leo phonecanvas. BUT everyone else would lose video calling. Which shall it be?

For the sig, here you go.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cubanaso:
Very true, is there any way to get that phone canvas in a cab form? Ive searched everywhere for it but cant seem to find one.

Thanks for the sig.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
Hmm, I just realized where you are from, all of my family lives there and near there. :D

You are welcome, glad you like it. :D

As far as the cab goes, I have to edit and fix the leo dialer (or any other dialer for that matter) to work with the new 6.5.1, so just any cab may not work.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Rajce:
Wow, new build is really touch friendly :D

EDIT: Size of windows is sometimes strange :/
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] thebiker:
Yes! Your right! Sometimes the texts are too big.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] thebiker:
Missing apps

I can't find the button settings, user name setting and other apps in the Personal setting.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
Hello everyone, Sorry about my server and its wackyness!

This new build is one that is working towards 6.5.1, which is a more touch friendly build that bridges the gap between WM 6.5 and WM 7. The graphics are not done yet (microsoft's side) and some things are not optimized yet.

Also, as of this build, I announce the death of the "Today" screen, as it is now the "Home" screen from here in.

Scrolling and speed should be improved in this build as well.

I do confirm that it is missing the "button settings" but do we even have any mappable buttons on the TD2? :P

Also this build uses a keyboard new to the rom, and as such needs testing too.

Also someone was asking what driver version and such i am using, this version is 2.06, I upgraded last minute with the new build to bring you all the latest. :P
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Firething:
wierd size of windows and pull-down menu´s

Hello and thanx so much for the hard work with the roms... i see that im not the only one that have the problem with strage sizes of menus :D .... doesnt make much difference to me at the moment, just pleased with the fast and great rom, but will still be waiting for a fix.. keep up the good job

cheers
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] avers:
Congratulations!

It's beautiful.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] AMackay:
The new keyboard is better, seems a bit faster than your previous roms. Theme is great as usual
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] xthephreakx:
yesterday ev' i saw something cool but i don't know how to get it back or meebie it was a bug i dont know :)

when i got called i saw an other screen than usual it kinda looked like the lock screen but with 2 big slides 1 green 1 red is that correct?

btw i took the liberty to upload your file to rapidshare hope you dont mind
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
What you saw was most likely the lockscreen incoming call screen. The htc dialer overwrites that sadly though so thats why you problably have a hard time getting it to show.

A new build is coming soon again. Changed a bit in netcf, fixed part of the theme, added new icons for almost everything HTC (and more!) fixed the 2.06 drivers, fixed the boot screens, fixed the extra camera modes, fixed the keyboard settings panel, plus even more random tinkering to fix things and speed things up. at least hopefully.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] xthephreakx:
well it looked cool so i hope you get it working :D

btw if u use total commanden or file explorer when you select a folder of cab or other file you get a strange icon on the selected folder
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] zard:
Nice background but because the Manila text are white, a bit difficult to read. No big deal though.

Everything seems to be okay for me. Thank you so much.

BTW, when is the new build coming? Eager to give it a try.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
While true the background is too light for the light text color it just looks soo nice! :D But serious though thats why I changed it darker on the tabs. If it is too much of a problem I will fix it in a upcoming build with something else, so please let me know.

Before I build and upload in about 2 hours, anything that should be added, removed, or fixed in the next version? Also again sorry about the horrible server last time around, it was getting hit pretty hard that day for a small server. Next build will have mirrors from the start.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] XClemX:
ahh so a new rom will be out soon?

i just grabbed the latest to play with, but i will wait now and grab the newer one..

dont apologise about the server speeds...the Ox is slow, but the Earth is patient...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ROBLANS:
Information: saw another treath information about the size of the control buttons, it is from cook avers.

The 925 Build's oversized control buttons aren't a new feature, just a corrupt gwes.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
Hmm did not see that, I have heard that it is just a step towards 6.5.1 controls as they are shown about the same size, somewhat, and of course have graphics for them unlike these.

Here is a preview of some of the newer icons. These are official HTC icons from a build that shall remain unnamed. :D

(Audio booster, clear storage, device information are the new ones in this pic, there are loads more.)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ROBLANS:
Whatever it may be, give the information extent, shared knowledge :D

Now I see your example, always in for a surprise, but that's not a diamond 2, it is an old dumped friend (humor).