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[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Ya you are correct but not fully. Currently I have htc_fb_console,vreg,proc_comm_wince and blackstone board code working before putting them in repo i want to review them full ones again that's why i did't put it in repo still. After putting i want testing team to keep testing our code find bugs and do R&D about those bugs. Currently i am at my office or else i would have updated repo with my code any way i will be updating repo in few hours.

I don't want to make this Thread long that's why i asked every one to PM me.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nova_vx:
My goal is to boot directly android, because i hate wm and the few app and games that run on it.

I don't know if this question is stupid or not but when we run android from haret there is always wm that run? if yes we spent lot of ram in this process.

Sorry for my low knowledge. :p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Ya many people want that we will find some solution for that. When haret boot linux all ram will cleared so no wm stuff will be left. Only amss will be running on ARM9 Baseband Processor.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] PooleyUK:
Happy to test for you if need be, I'm a flashing whore and my HD is my playground ;-)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nituraj:
how to instal the android operating system......try to help me and make it little easy how we instal windows rom
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ReijMan:
not by asking this kinda questions in this forum.

Just take 5 minutes to look around and i'm sure you'll find it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Geeba:
Not sure if this is old news but Orange have just confirmed the HTC Hero... it reads to me that its pretty much an HD in a different case! :confused:

Can that be used at all?

http://www.coolsmartphone.com/

Its there on the front page....
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] globiboulga:
Unless something is put as a sticky, this is the kind of fatherhood, non-helpful, stupid comment I hate. You could have pasted a link instead of being a condescendant idiot. I'm sorry but it pisses me off. These forums ARE NOT GOOD to manage information. They are CONVERSATIONS...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Rumbi:
And the author of the question could have read at least the FIRST POST where ALL available links can be found -.-'

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlackstoneLinux
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fards:
Sticky.. Good god man its in the wiki! and the instructions have already been posted in this very thread..

but then Hey why should anyone bother to read the RULES of the forum before posting..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] brumbrum:
According to www.htc.com:

Hero Display: 320x480 HVGA

Magic: 320x480 HVGA

Dream: 320x480 HVGA

Blackstone Display: 480x800 WVGA

I think Hero is just a Dream/Magic with newer software and better camera.

It will probably not help us getting android on our stone. The diffrence between blackstone and dream is minimal. The biggest diffrence is in the low level firmware/code, and this code is very hard to change and/or modify without JTAG'ing the device/the components.

If this code was the same on the blackstone and the dream, we would probably already have android/linux on the device.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Geeba:
Bugga - forgot the resolution problem and was just thinking chipset...

The replacement for the HD (The Firestone) will be running Windows Phone 6.5 so no help there ether then... :(

http://www.trustedreviews.com/mobile-phones/news/2009/06/25/HTC-Touch-HD-Sequel-Leaks/p1
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] john-vogel:
Another 5$ from me!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] TheMasterR:
@ nituraj

Hi. You can find a lot of tutorials on the HTC Touch HD on the

wiki

page, that you can find here.

For a mini tutorial on how to run Linux of your touch hd (note that you don't have to install it, you can run it from windows mobile, using a program named HARET) go: here.

For a video tutorial, go: here.

For a good tutorial on flashing (or in other words installing a new ROM aka a new windows mobile pack) go:

To the wiki or,

for a video tutorial: here (I strongly suggest you read the information in the wiki first).

If you have any more questions PM me, or post in the related threads, that you can find on the wiki.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Terrorhuhn:
Does that mean, it doesn't mather if we start linux directly or through haret, at the end it's the same?

lol, when the projekt is finished there will be Windows Mobile Bootloader Versions cooked^^ very small only for booting Android^^

One Question. I work often with Linux and bring some skill with, are they useful for this projekt?

greets
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tids2k:
@ abhi

Any Updates ?? :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ASK768:
About Jtagging the devices, wasnt someone with a name like "Viperbjk" working on this. He made a few posts at the end of the old project. Ill send him a PM to see if his work has got anywhere. His research may help us a lot.

Here's the app he was working on
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] TheMasterR:
@Terrorhuhn

That means, that through you are booting linux from windows mobile, all the windows mobile "stuff" from memory get's erased as soon as you boot linux, so basically it's pretty much the same as booting linux directly.

A small portion of windows mobile still remains in the processor memory (but it doesn't really slow linux down).

Probably, eventually someone will code a boot loader to boot directly into android, but till then, except the time "wasted" to boot WM, and start haret, witch starts android, theres no difference that really counts. (anyways you can flash a really light ROM of WM, so that it does't take too much space on your device).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] heartofwolf:
ROM

I cant wait to see htc sense on my hd! Do You think it would be possible to make an android based rom for hd?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] TheMasterR:
@heartofwolf

Probably. Then again, it's not an easy task I imagine. Maybe if we had the hardware specs... who knows :)

Anyways in my humble opinion, that's really not required since having both WM and Android on the device is more appealing to me. (I see no limitation in doing things this way).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hrcro:
We all would like to have fully working android (thanks everybody for their contribution).

My question is: if we use haret to boot android what hapens with all contacts, sms, call history when phone reboot?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] masr:
Everything you change to android with haret, stays the next reboot. I have already seen it.

Greetings, masr
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] TheMasterR:
@hrcro

Nothing. They remain available in windows mobile, they don't get deleted, or modified. Same goes for what ever changes you do to Android. They get stored in Android :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] imz81918:
Hey

I dont know how I can help, but I would definitely love to. I am a part time programmer on C/C++, JAVA, VB.... so if you think I can be of help, I am around. I am impressed with Android and would love my HD to run it very soon... Ping me if you need me...

Bye for now...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hrcro:
Great! I was worried that everithing will be gone with reboot.

Tnx.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kri5:
I could also contribute in devel, i have no skill in kernel programming, but i have skill in asm x86, C/C++/C#, and many more language, but i have no time to contribute in R&D, so if you have something to do and you know how to do it, but need somebody to code it for you, i may be able to contribute if i have time
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Archoz:
So long as Windows is booted first, we can configure haret to start automatically as soon as Windows has booted (and turn off all other applications at boot). It doesn't take that long this way. I personally rarely turn off the device, so I don't find this that big of a deal. But I must say that seeing the Windows logo IS a big turn off... :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bruns86:
I have seen a few things on android an I think im really gonna like it!!!

I hope android will come to my blackstone soon and hope it is fast and stable!! :cool:

On tweakers.net there was some news about android running on an Samsung Omnia.. I found a site: http://androidomnia.com/ http://www.androidonhtc.com/

Maybe you can find something usefull on it!!!

You have my respect for doing this project!!! Good Luck!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] masr:
HTC - Taipei Engineering Office

Abimanyu, could you please call the "Taipei Engineering Office" of HTC for some help of the hardware (they can speak english!)? This would be better than finding everything out ourselves.

I got its number from this page.

Here is the number: 00886-2-89124138

And this number is JUST for Abimanyu. I don´t want to spam this number with phonecalls from all of you, haha ;-)

Calling with Skype is just 1,7 Cent/Minute (VERY CHEAP!)

The time-difference between you and there is 3:30 hours. So if you call at 12:00 there it is 15:30.

I already called now from Spain, but my time-difference is 8 hours and they already have closed.

Hey, calling is ALWAYS ALWAYS better than writing emails! And please be persistent. Ask them all you can and ask them where to ask if they do not know anything.

Greetings! masr
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] omidnoei:
Please help me

I want to download tuxhero android ROM for my HTC HD,but I can not it from github.com,every time I did it ,it the download started but it broken.

Any body can to upload this ROM in rapidshare or megaupload or other sites.

Thanks for your favor.

Regards.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] abats:
There is no rom mate, read the thread.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Terrorhuhn:
the bootlogo is replaceable, so that shouldn't be he problem^^

haha, then this is the most useful WM version ever created^^.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] itchy8me:
@tuxhero,

i'm going to give the wifi a go. will be starting in about 2 weeks. at the moment

i'm doing some lite reading on device driver development.

someone mentioned here that they had the manual to open the stone.

if we opened one up surely that would save time, or is it such that the

datasheets would not be available?

itchy8me
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] masr:
OOOH MAAAAN, I LOVE android!! I don´t know if I can wait anymore, hahaha

Do you know Spotify, where you can listen to every music you like without paying? This also exists for google android!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ALGPknOsiU

Will android be ready in July for the HTC Touch HD?

masr
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nova_vx:
knock knock where's tuxhero?

Today 0 posts... :confused:

I don't want think to buy an iphone 3gs (i've already 3g) 'cause this thread is dead again... :(:(:(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daniel.hunt:
Sweet jesus would you just calm down for a second. *1* day without posting doesn't mean that the world is about to end.

Give him a chance - this project is only just getting off the ground
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] omidnoei:
Thanks for your answer and sorry for my fault,

any way I can not download it from Github,please put it on another site,thanks a lot
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Powerbik:
If he doesn't post for one day does that mean the thread is dead? Give the man a break he works hard for us.

You still don't fully understand I guess. There is NO ROM yet. Only a collection of files from the driver and kernel development.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Thankyou for understanding. I am working here I want to put much time in working on code that's why i am keeping silent. I will be back soon may be with some surprises too.

Github is give also lot of problems but don't worry i am working on github alternative also.

I am always with you.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kcalim:
maybe this can help you?

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=K0AHA2T0
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fards:
Ignore me.. I'm talking drivel..

been a long day :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nedge2k:
@tux

if you need some hosting, let me know, be happy to donate to the cause.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] itchy8me:
well, i tried searching for wlan datasheets for htc devices that others have cracked open. The only documents that i find for these are block diagrams, no pinouts or such.

I take it that would mean that reverse engineering is the only viable option?

itchy
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
you got a volunteer here for beta testing! will monitor this tread!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nova_vx:
Sorry to everybody to tuxhero specially...

I've a lot of anxiety about this project 'cause you've to know that i buy blackstone 4 months ago only with the hope to can run android, i've used it 3 or 4 times with wm... :o

I leave dev to work also for me.

Thanks a lot.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Behold:
I can host files up to about 300mb worth with unlimited bandwidth. If that helps. PM if interested.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] [germany]merlot:
Oh yes, I can host files, too. I have a webspace with 10GB in Germany. It's quiet fast and I have a little bit traffic left. :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
Sweet!

Now all you guys need is some files to host. ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] masr:
Yes, hahaha ;-)

You have to wait, until there is an image for Android, because what else should be hosted?

By the way, everything, what is on the git-server is there for a specific reason! git is a revision control protocol, so hosting this instead of putting it on the git-server makes everything very complicated.

If anyone says that the git-server is not available and if tuxhero could put it on another server, just means that somebody doesn´t know a git-server and it doesn´t mean that we need another server ;-)

Greetings! masr
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jimbo29:
I found something about future android os:

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_hero-pictures-2861.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKTDSfbcbBU&feature=topvideos

Have fun!

Cheers!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dcordes:
don't wanna spoil the party but fb works for quite a while. also it would make much more sense to use htc-msm-2.6.27 branch at linuxtogo http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-msm-2.6.27 . you can contact me if you want to commit anything
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] itchy8me:
hi,

could someone please expain the difference between the two branches?

itchy
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dwaradzyn:
2.6.27 is currently used by develpers from #htc-linux. This kernel includes (limited) support for blackstone/diamond/raphael/kaiser/vogue/polaris, you might want to check wiki for details.

2.6.29 is latest kernel and this version is currently used by Google. According to #htc-linux devs there is no much sense in merging 2.6.27 changes to 2.6.29, as 2.6.29 does not differ much from 2.6.27 and it would not be a significant improvement in project.

Tuxhero stated opposite and he is currently merging changes from 2.6.27 to 2.6.29. Will this be a progress? I hope so. Time will tell.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] itchy8me:
okay confusion has settled in on this side.

¨This is a fresh start we are not going to consider old code at all (believe me our old code is the worst code i every seen in kernel tree) but we will use the information from the old code like GPIO,IRQ,Memory maps etc..

Till now we are using htc-msm-2.6.27 based kernel but android-msm-2.6.29 got lot of new stuff and has backward compatibility code which is very helpfull for our device.

so i started porting 2.6.27 code to 2.6.29 and add code to make use of lot more hardware.¨

taken from the first post on this thread.

if old code is not been used then what is getting ported?

also, for which devices is the google branch aimed at?

and finally when you say ¨there is not much sense in merging 2.6.27 changes to 2.6.29, as 2.6.29 does not differ that much from 2.6.27 and it would not be a significant improvement in the project.¨, is merging the porting of ¨driver¨ code to the new kernel?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ASK768:
the google branch is aimed towards official devices made for android. The kernel is being ported to our device (i think as a result of different hardware etc.) the whole idea of starting afresh was that then we'd be using a specially made blackstone kernel, not one ported from the touch pro.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
htc-linux 2.6.27 kernel is developed by #htc-linux irc group targeting Diamond/Raphael. android-msm 2.6.29 is developed by Google. I found htc-linux 2.6.27 kernel full of mess if u try to compile any other device other than Diamond/Raphael/Blackstone it will not work. When i stared working on this project i was using htc-linux 2.6.27 kernel i found that all the blackstone code is just nothing but copy of raphael device code. Now i am using some code (like proc_comm_wince,epson lcd drivers) from old device but main blackstone code is completly rewrite and our old blackstone code was based on haltbut (Google own development board) now i am using code based on G1 and G2.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Behold:
Im aware the only files will be for the images available. But as said im not restricted on bandwidth and it will not be blocked for people at work trying not to work..!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] DaVoice:
timeframe

Hey guys,

How's the development going. Is there any idea about the timeframe for a first beta ? I'd love to test it
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
It's going fine. Service manager in android is scolding me alot :( I am trying hard to convince it. By the by i found one thing. Hard reset under the backpanel is not software independent it's it also controlled by software.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] DaVoice:
Ok, pretty import to port the hard reset button the right way then.

Can you tell anything about a release date for a beta of even an alpha ?

and do you have enough dev's ? Maybe I can help a little.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tids2k:
yah tuxy ... any updates mate do u need some more donation to invite more devs. let me know ... hows the project going on .. have u finally convinced ur ol' mate ;) i mean the service manager. .. as his services are highly needed to get this project goin '' lol fun apart .. all the best mate.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Goose4all:
some checkins would be nice..

i mean.. dont get me wrong.. but it looks a bit strange.. you tell us the development is going fine but not a single line was checked in on the repository (if i didnt miss anything).

the only thing i see is raising donations.. for... well.. nothing but hot air right now..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] docmehmood:
status

what is the status on android?

what r the expactations of its release for hd?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] wizern23:
An updated Hero Rom has been leaked. its found in this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=531416.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tikejhya:
sorry being eager ..

what may be the possible day that we can experience HTC sense ui in blackstone.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] wizern23:
with the official rom leaking ot that i posted on post 359 all they would need to do is get the kernal finished and work on booting android using that rom.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Rumbi:
NICE! Is there a way of booting it with Haret?

€dit: Just put the stuff out of Rom.zip in tmp folder and i tried to start Haret. It really starts and then get stuck @ [21.529674]mmcblk0: p1

In the log i can see much Blackstone related things so maybe we can get it work with the right settings for Haret.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
The big problem is still to get the drivers for the blackstone-hardware working.

Goose4all: I agree, im still keeping my breath hoping this isnt just a donation-scam, hopefully we will see some substance soon.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Archoz:
Will the release of the Hero ROM make the development for Blackstone easier though?

@Tuxhero: why not give us some relieve and post the current progress? :)

Did I understand correctly that more developers are working on it?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] masr:
More developers "will" help. I already asked tuxhero, what I can do over PM, but I did not get an answer. I think, he will first complete his work with the porting to the new kernel and then he will ask all people who sent him a PM.

But I am also looking forward for the first beta!!

Greetings, masr
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] [germany]merlot:
Come on guys, stay cool. I think tux is really hard working on porting the Android os to our Blackstone devices and it is not very intelligent to stop work every hour to answer all the threads/post here and giving an update about the current work.

I feel it, it'll come true in a few days (maybe on or two weeks :D). Wait and see..;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] wizern23:
@[germany]merlot. he only drops in when he has news which is good because it means he is working on it.

@nizzon. sry i didnt make it clear that i included that into getting it booted
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
What you are trying is the old build that the old team created.

Your error is common and the sulotion is in the wiki.

Use the search-function.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Rumbi:
Nope i mean the Hero-ROM from Post #359.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
I dont think anyone got that working on the blackstone, I guess it needs some coding for that to work.

You get the same error in the old blackstone-build though and all it needs is a restart.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Rumbi:
I think it's not that hard to get it to boot further than that. But i'm a total noob in things like Haret etc. And i don't think it's a problem with the card itself, because the build out of the wiki boots like a charm from the same card. so i believe something else has to be changed.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
i had ported 2.6.27 to 2.6.29 after setting RPC Versions to 0 i got audiomanager working and some welcome type of messages after that kernel stop responding. I am currently tracing the problem. I belive that we are very close to get audio and many of the hardware working on android.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mglancy23:
Great news :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ASK768:
Great news. i have a feeling that this "beta" will be less of a beta than i had imagined. (i was thinking screen corruption after 5 minutes use with none of the 4 softkeys working and stuff like that). Just one quick question, in the old version, the menu button (i think) was mapped in between the "home" and "back" keys. Where is it in this project?

thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigDaemon:
Is there some point in time you can see when you will make a alpha/beta public??

Not that i won´t believe you, but until now we have seen nothing "touchable" from you, a first alpha would make us even more trust in you :)

So just an idea: Try to get the kernel booting without any sound etc, just that we can SEE Android on the HD without more then Screen working, this would be very great to make those who think you are just talking hot air believe in you ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Menu button is mapped to HOME Key and we will be having only 4 button.

Call

Menu

Back

End