yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] puregenius:
I'm in with 10€. Maybe we should also make a list about how much everybody is willing to give to see if we can collect enough money for a Blackstone. How much does a Blackstone cost in NZ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Alright my bad lol, me and my dumb self xD
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Heres a cheap htc diamond gsm version i found on Ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Unlocked-3G-HTC...ones?hash=item4399aa3d50&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

And a fuze cheap to on Ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Fuze-P4600-...ones?hash=item33551926c9&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] imtiyazee:
Where ru Tux, its been a long time since you have last commented.why dont you elaborate on what Dzo has said, else y don't u guys work together and remember

"TOGETHER WE CAN & WE WILL SUCCEED"

Do kindly update us the status what every one is waiting for.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lambstone:
Calm down ;) Tux said a few days ago that he would have some updates in a week. Which i suppose that would be by this weekend. Relax, chill and stop badgering him.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Agreed, leave the badgering at home, or you'll be get a warning or small ban from me
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] imtiyazee:
I never know that a week has 10 or more days :eek:Last post from Tux was on 16th Aug and now its 26 so where was i wrong in asking an update. its just a friendly gesture to remind him how restless people are to see an update from him and to know the progress.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
I am putting all the time i got in working on this project. I will update soon.

If you really want to help this project then i request you to join #htc-linux irc group and start contributing if you can't do it then please keep silence and let us work in peace.

This is not some Software Company Project for which they need to be sure of timelines.

This is purely a R&D project and never every can be done with a time lines.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] imtiyazee:
We are pleased to see a reply from you, good luck with the job.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] NeoS:
You do know that that's pretty annoying, right? Imaginge yourself doing something difficult and me asking over and over why you haven't posted any updates...

Just to make sure, this is not aimed at you, but at everyone that follows this thread.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] imtiyazee:
i do understand Neo. :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
I want help Friends

There is a proprietary folder in HTC Dream For Which Source are not avalible.

So to build Android, Google has provided a script to extract those files.

You can get the scripts here

http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=pl...5a9bcbce4a92df15c350847f73b9c956f4a;hb=master

And Instructions to Extract is available here

http://source.android.com/documentation/building-for-dream

I want those files so any one know where i can get them or if you can extract it and give it to me. It will be very help full.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Ethania:
Watched tthe widio in the link and had to ask:

Will android ever run this smoth on our HD?

There were almost no lag, and scrolling seams fast and accurate.

It was almost smoother and faster than on a device wich ships with Android.

What do you think about it?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kosworld:
Hi this is for when android on the HD?? If you answered me pleasure

Tuxhero
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Ultimaex:
I'm not sure if anyone will unterstand what you wanted to ask kosworld.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kosworld:
how long it is available ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Ethania:
It is ready when god want it too,

or atleast until Tux is done whit his hard work.

You should try and read some old posts,

and you will get the whole picture...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dB Zac:
man sometimes I think people forget. These guys are doing something you cant, for FREE!!! lay off. Be thankful he hasn't scrapped the project and stop sweating the updates (or lack there of). Even if you donate, I am sure its nowhere near what you would pay for these things! honor there hard work by being patient and thankful, that's all I am saying
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
It doesnt matter what you say. These people doesnt read the thread anyway, they just post and move on.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ASK768:
Should we post a request in the dream forum?

I had a feeling thered be more people with a dream there than on a blackstone forum :P

If you'd like, i could open a thread for you.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Thankyou ASK768. I got those files i am working on them.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] El Massman:
can we assume that since you're working with android files now rather than just the kernel that you've made some fairly decent progress in regards to getting all the hardware working?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] parcec:
unyaffs and codeaurora

Hello tuxhero,

with the program unyaffs you can extract the proprietary files from the downloadable images from HTC by yourself. Get the source from http://code.google.com/p/unyaffs/downloads/list .

Did you ever check codeaurora git repository? It´s from Qualcomm and they are doing a lot of coding for the different architectures they´re selling espescially snapdragon... but for MSM7201A, too. If you didnt´t check it before maybe it´s worth to have a look at it?!

greetings parcec
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bigSoft:
Not being a developer or whatnot, but being really interested in Android on Blackstone, I'm not sure how useful this link will be, but have you seen this...

http://developer.htc.com/

...where they have listed the HTC Dream Kernel Source Code as being available for download (apparently released 30/07/2009)?

If it helps great, if not keep up the good work :-)

Cheers.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] m3ik0:
I downloaded all the files that are provided to the developers.htc.com..

when you extract dream_9af60ed4.tar.bz2 it feels like you have a "rom" i mean all the files you need to make it flashable :eek: but the think is how u will cook that for touch hd and then flash it :confused:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] willbread:
hi,

i'm not a developer and the things i will write are maybe wrong... excuse me in advance

i had read info from this link and specially on the other page to flash a G/I device and i have a thinking : the magic android OS could be compatible with our blackstone with just a fastboot ? i saw that magic and blackstone are really closer

is it possible to adapt a fastboot from this post http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=529019 and have easily android ?

really, i think it isn't otherwise it had already be done but i'm a dreamer, so...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ASK768:
This is not possible, else we would have already done it (hardware differences - its similar but not the same).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] core7x:
im always on this thread looking for project improvement...

gudluck all
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] endstra:
project status

hi i'm really interrested in a good working android rom for my blackstone.

hope you could bring out a rom soon

keep up the good work
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] rodi1981:
Good Luck

I'm waiting for Android OS for HTC HD I just donate and I will donate more when I see progress :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] john-vogel:
donated 5$. hope this will help a little bit :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
rodi1981 & john-vogel Thankyou for you donation.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
@Powerbik my attemp to setup git server is failed due to Insufficent RAM in my server which is USA so i can upgrade it right now. can you please host a git server for us.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] JerryBarcenas:
http://android.git.kernel.org/ does that help???
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Powerbik:
I would love to. I'll get back to you tommorow about this as I don't have enough time right now.

My server has a good connection (it's hosted in a datacenter by Leaseweb) and if I recall correctly 512mb of RAM. 160GB of storage and runs CentOS Linux.

We'll talk tommorow.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Thankyou. I will wait.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] wizern23:
i have a g1 so i will see if i can get a kernal developer for android to come over and help with this project.

If we could get android completely functional then the best version i think that should be used is the hero rom which was made by HTC so it has the touch flo 3d enhancements done to make it more like their winmo lines but with android the changes are system wide.

[edit] i forgot to mention that with the hero being developed completely by htc including their own version of android that it should be easier to port and get working.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kaguendiez:
I donate too, I hope help you.

Cheers
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hobbit19:
git

github.com

www.codebase.com

http://repo.or.cz

http://dtcsupport.gplhost.com/Git/Public-Repo-Howto
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hobbit19:
git.koha.org
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Hi everyone,

as i am spending much time on kernel from past 2 days i am not able to replay to your questions. Here is a quick info what's going on.

i am currently working on Basic boot with framebuffer support after i finish it i will upload patch file and compiled kernel for testing.

Thankyou.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xaoc747:
Thank you Tuxhero for you great job! Hope to test it extraSOON!!! If possible send test version to my mail: x-star747@mail.ru, I'll upload it to russian xda and 4htc!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Thymus17:
Hello

I would like to participate to this development.

I just received a Touch HD and I would like to help you in your research.

How could I help you ?

I'm not a kernel developer but I could learn.

Cheers,

Raph
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tids2k:
hey abhimanyu,

just made a contribution .. hope to see you get this thing going ..

all the best

endavours ..

amit
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] 1337_V1k1n6:
Hi

Again, great that people are working on this project again. wish we could get xmoo and the others back in the team as well..

Is it not possible to use any of the progression that the previoous team managed? They had most things working apart from the sound drivers...!? I have written to htc support a few times to get the drivers, but they are not very helpful.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] patp:
As Orux described above, the challenge is in reverse engineering the ARM9 (Radio) rom, which handles a lot of the core hardware including, crucially, sound. This is a difficult process and involves a lot of research. It's great that tuxhero is bringing some new enthusiasm to the project, but do bear in mind that currently this thread is all about setting up dev tools and not about the actual problem, which is actively being worked on by cr2, tmzt, dcordes and others. We might see some material progress when tuxhero finishes playing with existing code and starts writing some new stuff!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
patp it is nice to see you. I know amss(Radio ROM) decoding is very hard(not impossible) do you know patp amss in android phone and amss in windows mobile are same only version is different. cr2 tmzt dcordes are not trying to solve the problem they just finding some quick fix. If they do reverse engineering of radio rom they would had find 90% of information they need in it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] patp:
Yes, I saw your conversation in the channel with them. either you are much smarter than them (great, we'll have it working soon) or you haven't understood the problem (I hope not)!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
patp i don't think i am smarter than them or a fool.

Let me explain about amss

amss runs on ARM9 processor independly and the amss is a genric ARM9 based rom (not a wince or android depended) and the application processor communicate it in a standrad RPC based protocol so it wont change much with Operating Systems. In recently android-2.6.29 kernel tree google developers are kind enough to add a backward compartibly code to rpc router so it become much easer to write code for devices like us.

In channel i told them to switch to android-2.6.29 so that we will be in sync with latest code but they are busy in finding a tempory fix than a perminent solution and i found blackstone dev thread is dead so i started this thread.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] erich900:
????

time for it now? androide project .. waiting!!!:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] DanMccoy1:
Hey Tux, Glad To See Everything Going Pretty Smooth :)

Must Nearly Be Time Now Hey

Hope Everythings Going Well.

Need A Graphic/Web Designer On Board Give Us A Private Message

And Well Done On Your Achievements So Far!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] imtiyazee:
There isn't much news around from developers side as to where this project stands as of now, just to remind here, I'm not asking for an update but certainly appreciate to know any development floating around so one and all is aware of the status and keep the fingers crossed.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tids2k:
since its the 99th page of the thread i hope that 100th will show some progress :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
If you have nothing of importance or interest to post, please refrain from posting. It becomes a little ridiculous with people constantly posting "I'm waiting" or "where is this" etc etc

This is not an easy task, and with 2 threads already on the go with same goal, the last thing these developers need is continual pressure or harassment, similar to kids in the back of a car shouting "Are we there yet? Are we there yet?"

Please try and be patient

Ta

Rick
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] NICOBJJ:
hahaha:D, completely agree with u! ur right, developers here are nobodys employees!!!:cool:

Patience its a virtude
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sudo_x60s:
Keep in mind that there are people who have donated money to this project. I think these people have the right to ask questions about the progress, don't you?

I have not donated (for several reasons) but I do not think, all though You are a moderator, that You have the right to tell other members what to write and not (=> kindly asking for an update once a week that was also "promised" by the thread starter a few weeks ago..).

My advice: stop giving false hope and the members will stop asking for updates. An update once a week is not asking for too much IMHO (even if the update was simply "no progress last week, further updates week XX").

Please try to have some understanding.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Update onces a week is also giving false hopes.

I will update when i have something.

See the above Comment.

We don't need to have some understanding sudo_x60s. It's you who need to be understanding here.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] imtiyazee:
I totally agree with you, hope members understand the true meaning behind what is written.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sudo_x60s:
...even if the update was simply "no progress last week, further updates week XX". That is not giving false hope, from where I come this is called honesty. I have tried to be understanding, please believe.

I notice that You follow this thread quite often (due to Your quick reply), why not provide some "facts" at the same time when You obviously took Your time to read my nonsense?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] FabianNL:
Please stop this discussion, we already done this a 1000 times... Tuxhero only post something when he has really something to post. Not just a useless post with 'nothing to say, check back later for more'. If you don't like that, sorry, but just deal with it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fards:
no they dont.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sudo_x60s:
I totally agree with You! Now we have 100 pages of basically b*ll s**t (=>"is it working now?"). The reason to this is so obvious and I will not repeat myself.

@TuxHero: I'm not going to argue with You. In my point of view You are only a child (yes, I'm that much older than You) and there is no idea in arguing with children. You will perhaps understand when You are older.

This is my last post. You can consider this as a victory if You want to (or don't understand better). Wish You all the best though in the future.

Now I will just wait for my Nokia N900 pre-order to arrive. Take care all, bye!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Thankyou .
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kosworld:
hi Tuxhero your boot is successful at least once? on your hd
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Celeborn_81:
Awesome timing haha, I love it! this is better than TV!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Cyclone_storm:
Haha indeed, I'm on vacation here, and constantly check for updates, and the only thing I read every time, are dumb ass messages of people that are to lacy to read the hole thread or at least 3 messages above to see that the same question was already asked. NO IT'S NOT DONE YET just wait. I should make a list of people that asked the same questions in this thread, its probably hilarious to see what a big ass list that would be haha. Success Thux keep your head cool (from all these: Are we done yet idiots.) :D:D:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
Do like the Diamond devs have done and add a big "NOT YET WORKING" to the topicname. Then maybe the retards will get a clue.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] superseagull:
hehe

good call on the topicname but where's the fun in that :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Buembel:
hi

@tux: don't care about what people criticize - always keep your project as it is yours not theirs :p

I hope you will reach what you're aiming.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Wajk:
HERO on Kaiser, if you don't saw this project...

Hero on Kasier project

Waiting for Android to my HD ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Cyclone_storm:
Yeah indeed I was thinking the same thing. :D:D:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] El Massman:
anyone managed to boot a hero port using the kernel on the blackstone wiki? every time i try all i get is 'cannot find rootfs.img on the sd card'. it's definately there, lol. i put it there myself. be awesome to play around with it if anyone knows how?

thanks,

marc
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sevensheaven:
there is a working android for touch hd.....android_cupcake_2009-03-10

regards stef
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] welki1979:
semi-working. Have it myself running via Haret but there's still no sound or camera. Texting works though.

Lets leave Tux to work on it....I'm confident that we'll have android soon.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sevensheaven:
i know..it's semi working,but it give some people the chance to try and see how it looks.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ASK768:
there is a android emulator for pc floating around the dev and hacking thread. worked fine for me and is good for a quick play around.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
This is exactly what you are doing right now, spamming this thread with non-essential posts!

If Tux wants this thread closed he can PM me anytime.

I do not have time to scan every thread and delete flood posts. If people continue to flood this thread with pointless posts I'll have no other option than to close this thread and ban repeat flooders

Warning issued to all.

Ta

Rick
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] viperbjk:
Correct. It is possible to flash a modified first page in order to make the device work with other phone firmware. But you will also not only need to flash a modded first page, but also some patches to qcsbl/pbl/oemsbl to make it compatible.

Cya,

Viper BJK
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Thread closed by request. New thread will be created when project complete
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
Interesting read!

What irc-net and channel are you guys talking about?

Is it public?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Rumbi:
#htc-linux @ freenode

LOG
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] patp:
I think this is partially true. Have a chat with dream_kill or stepw, but I believe the radio rom has certain wince drivers as well as the (linux-based) amss, which I believe is a version beginning 52xx. Orux and others did get the RPC server to report its addresses/services, I look forward to seeing if the later kernel is able to talk to it.

Maybe you should persist in talking to them - we are all interested in the same problem after all!

EDIT:

Just looked at the git. Looks like they have implemented support for newer AMSS but not older. I think we have older.

-#if CONFIG_MSM_AMSS_VERSION == 6210

-#define RPC_ADSP_RTOS_ATOM_VERS 0x20f17fd3

-#define RPC_ADSP_RTOS_MTOA_VERS 0x75babbd6

+#if CONFIG_MSM_AMSS_VERSION >= 6350

+#define RPC_ADSP_RTOS_ATOM_VERS MSM_RPC_VERS(1,0)

+#define RPC_ADSP_RTOS_MTOA_VERS MSM_RPC_VERS(2,1) /* must be actual vers */

+#define MSM_ADSP_DRIVER_NAME "rs3000000a:00010000"

#elif (CONFIG_MSM_AMSS_VERSION == 6220) || (CONFIG_MSM_AMSS_VERSION == 6225)

-#define RPC_ADSP_RTOS_ATOM_VERS 0x71d1094b

-#define RPC_ADSP_RTOS_MTOA_VERS 0xee3a9966

+#define RPC_ADSP_RTOS_ATOM_VERS MSM_RPC_VERS(0x71d1094b, 0)

+#define RPC_ADSP_RTOS_MTOA_VERS MSM_RPC_VERS(0xee3a9966, 0)

+#define MSM_ADSP_DRIVER_NAME "rs3000000a:71d1094b"

+#elif CONFIG_MSM_AMSS_VERSION == 6210

+#define RPC_ADSP_RTOS_ATOM_VERS MSM_RPC_VERS(0x20f17fd3, 0)

+#define RPC_ADSP_RTOS_MTOA_VERS MSM_RPC_VERS(0x75babbd6, 0)

+#define MSM_ADSP_DRIVER_NAME "rs3000000a:20f17fd3"

#else

#error "Unknown AMSS version"

#endif
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
no this code is for backward compatability in come comments they explained it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] patp:
I hope you're right. How's porting going?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
It's going fine i will finish basic hardware support by this weeakend.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] alper1:
You are our hero tuxhero !:p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigDaemon:
Not only our hero, but something god-like :)

just a question from someone who can´t wait to see android on his Blackstone:

Is there a estimated time when we can try your work in something like an Alpha? :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] semitweakert:
You're damn right! Hope tuxhero gets it to work, it would be amazing to have a full working version of Android running on our HD!

Good luck tuxhero!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bonesy:
Well done tux, Wish i could help but im no programmer and i dont understand linux lol im more than willing to risk bricking my phone to help develop though :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] parnunu:
Sorry

my poor make me confuse

what i have to do if want to *try this (+can ure everything that now can)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ASK768:
It's not working yet
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] askfatcat:
Just Send my support and thank you for restarting this TUX,

Sun Lu
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] JerryBarcenas:
hey dunno if this helps but new changes have been made to the kernel http://android.git.kernel.org/