yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G1 Android Development] justanothercrowd:
Shouldnt need to be but there is a chance you will need to start from scratch

You can't really re-odex the odexed apk's There is no longer a classes.dex to base the .odex off of. You need to use an older rosie.apk (from 1.72 or earlier) and make the changes....odex and then remove the classes.dex from it.

To clear some other things up my ROMS are not overclocked...the proc settings are left alone...it is a data interpolation issue with the particular oc app your using.
[G1 Android Development] armoredraven:
I'll experiment, see how it goes, and then get back to you, shouldn't be that bad.

Data interpolation... never heard that before lol.
[G1 Android Development] justanothercrowd:
haha i meant interpretation but it cant go either way i guess?
[G1 Android Development] armoredraven:
Lol. Dictionary.com says interpolate means to insert/ introduce something, so I guess you could have made sense haha.

For now, I think I'll try messing with images in the framework_res.apk, rather than rosie. Seems like a pain to edit all the 9.png files though. The process seems tedious to edit them :P
[G1 Android Development] DMaverick50:
so heres a stupid question.....will this rosie speed up or slow down depending on the background? If I am using a more graphic-intense, colorful background will rosie lag as opposed to a black, somewhat plain background?

I have the aero wallpapers, two are black with basic patterns but the others are bright and colorful, it almost seems as though it runs better on the black ones but maybe im reaching...
[G1 Android Development] sovietspyguy:
okay so i installed the spl the radio and the jachero1.8bv4 rom and my g1 does not go past the htc screen. help?
[G1 Android Development] DMaverick50:
have you checked to make sure the spl and radio installed properly? if you have id just try flashing again. And v4 uses auto apps to sd so if your card isnt partitioned perhaps thats a problem. and if it is partitioned make sure youve formatted the ext2/3
[G1 Android Development] juangil:
radio MUST be installed bfore the Haykuro special SPL or you could brick it:(
[G1 Android Development] sovietspyguy:
Yeah I flashed the radio 1st, then the Haykuro SPL. Im guessing like the above poster mentioned is that I have to partition my sd card.
[G1 Android Development] startekee:
Why is is that I only have 14mb of free scpace left
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
because this rom was not made for our phone and is huge get used to it, any hero rom with more free space without apps2sd doesnt exist.
[G1 Android Development] xyrcncp:
Technically it does, if you remove stuff you don't want. I removed some HTC widgets, the HTC setup wizard, the weather app and widget, the Twidroid app and the Mail app and I started with 28MB :p
[G1 Android Development] startekee:
Doesn't apps2sd correct this?
[G1 Android Development] justanothercrowd:
Okay a normal 1.5 ROM is about 40-50MB...now the Hero's lib folder is about that big alone...let alone EVERYTHING ELSE

The G1 doesnt even have enough room in SYSTEM to fit Hero's SYSTEM files thats why we have an app_s symlinked to SYSTEM:app

The ROM in SIMPLY too big...and APPS2SD only moved data...we still have to account for the HUGE system size
[G1 Android Development] justanothercrowd:
Okay a normal 1.5 ROM is about 40-50MB...now the Hero's lib folder is about that big alone...let alone EVERYTHING ELSE

The G1 doesnt even have enough room in SYSTEM to fit Hero's SYSTEM files thats why we have an app_s symlinked to SYSTEM:app that sits on the DATA partition

The ROM in SIMPLY too big...and APPS2SD only moved data...we still have to account for the HUGE system size
[G1 Android Development] Zarboz:
so ... just wondering but... isnt apps to sd just symlinking /data/app to /system/sd/app etc... so if i use the script to move my apps to sd will installs go to /data/app or /system/sd/app

???

or do i have to run apps2sd for it to work

... or after i run apps2sd does it just move everything from /data/app and symlink it to /system/sd/appp

and install new applications to the phone mem....

just wondering before i flash the new version
[G1 Android Development] xyrcncp:
JAC, did you ever see these posts? They're from the 5th. I just played a video and the buttons don't work in the video player, or any controls, the video just plays.
[G1 Android Development] justanothercrowd:
Thank you..I have not recieved any bug reports like this. I'll look at it tonight
[G1 Android Development] Franklees:
The wallpaper is functioning now, I have tried several different pictures.
[G1 Android Development] jigdagod:
When I run Advanced Task Manager to closed all apps I notice that I have some apps running that I haven't even ran at all like NBA 2 Go, Toggle Settings, Ringo Pro, PF Voicemail+, Photo uploader, is there a way I can stop them from loading up? I'm on 1.8bv3 about to update to 1.8b4 unless JAC is about to drop 1.8b5 tonight or early this morning beacuse every morning I wake up I have a new one which I love to see. Thanks for all your hard work. Keep it up.
[G1 Android Development] startekee:
I like that I don't see the loading screen alot in this build. Now if only we can get rid of it entirely :)
[G1 Android Development] sullitf:
I see the same thing happen with certain programs as well. I think that's something specific to each app though, not really the roms. Toggle Settings, for example, is one that I see all the time as well. I think the developer made it to run in the background and constantly listen for changes in battery, location, charging status, etc. Oddly, even if I have all of the "rules" turned off in Toggle Settings it still runs in the background, but that's an issue with the specific apps' memory management.
[G1 Android Development] rishi_hacker:
Jac hero installation

Does jachero have the htc sense build and flash in the newest update.

Also is it pretty fast???
[G1 Android Development] jigdagod:
Yea, but when I was running 1.72 I didn't have that many apps open at all just the ones that I was using, I never saw Toggle Settings or any of the other ones I named and they've been on my card since I started doing all these ROMS.
[G1 Android Development] Nismo300zx:
is it possible that this is caused by swapper..which helps run multiple apps at once?
[G1 Android Development] rishi_hacker:
Jachero installation

Could anyone tell me if you need to have the new hardspl from haykuro to do this. Also could anyone give me a tutorial on how to do a recovery image:):):):):):):):):):):):):):)

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[G1 Android Development] Nismo300zx:
check this thread out

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=523558

and yes you do need the new spl its a requirement
[G1 Android Development] sullitf:
jigda, guess it could be something to do with the rom then. I haven't paid close enough attention to see the differences in what has run in previous roms. Not sure what would have changed within jachero that would affect this, maybe some of the memory optimizations inadvertently prevented the phone from killing background processes?

This could make sense and answer something I've been noticing. I'm on one of the 1.8 builds (I think its v2 but I could be mistaken) and I seem to have memory problems every once in a while. It hasn't been reset in a few days and it slowed down quite a bit. It actually reset itself about an hour ago (tethering via wifi to two laptops probably caused it), and after the reset it's been running fine again.

I'll keep an eye on it when I update to either 1.8v4 or v5 (if released tonight/tomorrow) and I'll see what happens.
[G1 Android Development] AGunz82:
This is the best Hero Rom I've tried. I do wish we had the day htc widget instead of the black.
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
quick question before anyone should answer the question should be have you read any of the information in the stickied thread at the top of the development forum ?
[G1 Android Development] madunix:
question... i did apps2sd the first time i booted this new rom, my internal memory was at 55mb. so i installed all of my applications that i wanted n now it's down to 43mb. i thought after apps2sd the apps i install afterwards go straight into the sdcard? i also did dalvik, do i have to do it again with my apps installed for it to copy them over to the sdcard?(dalvik as well?)

and also has anyone tried that app to move browser cache and market cache along with other apps to sdcard? (fat32) how'd it workout for you?
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
cant that be basically changed with a different png image ? from the day widget ?
[G1 Android Development] mcp2009:
stuck on htc screen keeps looping on it. any suggestions? and yes i wiped 1st
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
ok you have to move over the apps that you download from the market to the sd card by just pressing move apps to sd, make sure copy existing apps is checked though reboot when done, and your good to go. It may give you a force close option but just hit wait and let it finish.
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
have you read around the forum ? do you have the new spl ? do you have the new radio ? again did you read any of the 1st page in this thread ? did you read the stickies ?
[G1 Android Development] DMaverick50:
v3 was the best rosie yet, and ive tried all of jac and most others. but v4 is really freaking out on me. after about an hour of sheer bliss im getting force closes quite often, and most often while just looking at the main menu and i see the load screen when i hit home from browser, messaging, market and many apps. Could it be the auto-swapper app causing this? V3 had the swapper app but was it automatically initialized because i never messed with it and only had load screen from browser and occasionally market?

Also, ive tried several reccomended swapper settings but the problems persist, im hesitant to reflash v3 because if history is any indication v5 will be out in no time
[G1 Android Development] madunix:
ok sounds good, soo only copy apps 2 sd again right? don't worry about the dalvik part or should i do that again? and also can i do it without having to wipe or ne thing? won't mess nuttin up will i?... lol i know alot of questions but i just wanna be sure. thanks btw
[G1 Android Development] Nismo300zx:
are you using app2sd ??...if so u might need to reformat ur ext2

Possible bug...

for some reason when i try to use the HTC gps settings widget it always force closes rosie...
[G1 Android Development] DMaverick50:
yeah i am, and i reformatted it prior to flashing, may be a good idea though, can i just format ext2, redownload my apps and run apps2sd or will i need to reflash the rom too? thanks
[G1 Android Development] Nismo300zx:
id say flash too just so everything can be clean...
[G1 Android Development] madunix:
ne1 got an answer for this? i'm actually waiting as i type to do this but wanna make sure to do apps2sd again WITH the dalvik-cache as well in order to get my internal memory back up.
[G1 Android Development] the1wingedangel:
I would bet you just need to reformat your ext2/ext3 partition, then try again.

I have a similar issue. Keep in mind that even with app, app-private, and dalvik-cache folders in your /system/sd partition you will still lose space when installing apps. They will still store data on internal memory, though the application itself will be on the sdcard.

But this seems to be losing mass amounts of space in short amounts of time. I also had ~55MB free after the fresh install (1.8bv4) with everything moved to the sdcard. I then installed only 7 apps, looked again and I was down to 43 also. Strange, I know. But then I did nothing but send a few texts and make one call, and 15 min later looked again and it was at 30MB free. I'll let you know if I figure anything out here.
[G1 Android Development] DMaverick50:
thanks, im going to give it a few hours to see if theres any v5 talk first. i take it you are not having these issues, are you on v4? and if so have you found swapper settings youre happy with? when i first started i wasnt getting any loading screens so id like to keep using swapper....
[G1 Android Development] Nismo300zx:
yea i flashed to v4 this morning and has been running problem free since start up.on a stock 1gig at that....i havent changed the swapper i left it at the default settings..and rosie has been great to me...im actually gettin ready to setup my new class 6 and see how everythin runs

edit....ive had 44mb free since setup as well...i didnt use the app2sd app included...it worked out the box so to speak
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
ok you have to press the copy apps 2 sd button again then reboot make sure you let it finish it may prompt a force close/wait hit wait...dalvik you dont have to worry about again...you wont mess up anything u shouldnt....no wipe is needed at all.
[G1 Android Development] mcp2009:
yea just had 1.8b3 so i have everything up to date
[G1 Android Development] jigdagod:
Yea I didn't think about that. I'll do some test by turning swapper off and see what happens. Thanks for the tip
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
hmmm thats odd try flashing 1.8b3 again and then re wipe to the new rom...
[G1 Android Development] jigdagod:
I'm sorry I forgot to say that they do close, but after I get out and go back in Task Manager they are back again running. I'll keep an eye on it too and see what I can find out. Thanks
[G1 Android Development] mcp2009:
Yea kept trying paragon so i just ended up booting my laptop to linux and used gpart and works perfectly.
[G1 Android Development] madunix:
ty to everyone for their advice.
[G1 Android Development] mcp2009:
what would you recommend in my swapper settings for best performance i got a 16 gb mem card so idc how much space
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
go with 32 MB/ 10 swappiness i doubt you need anything more. I have rosie running perfectly and has been all day 5/7 screens have something on them and no loading yet and thats with 16 MB / 10 swappiness.
[G1 Android Development] Nismo300zx:
u still running that stock 1gig?
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
yep stock 1 gig...my swapper settings are in my sig...
[G1 Android Development] Nismo300zx:
u must be lucky cuz the 1gig i got still gives me some lag here n there
[G1 Android Development] mcp2009:
What if i put everything to max?
[G1 Android Development] Nismo300zx:
well the larger the size the slower itll be
[G1 Android Development] BigWorldJust:
Yeah it's still pretty laggy for me as well.
[G1 Android Development] mcp2009:
the larger the size of what? Swap size or swapiness?
[G1 Android Development] Nismo300zx:
swap size...i believe anythin past 64mb is kinda overkill
[G1 Android Development] hellbringer626:
Does this mean bluetooth is working? Specifically stereo bluetooth?

Its the only thing keeping me from jumping to a hero build
[G1 Android Development] jigdagod:
Is there a way I can backup my homescreens so I can restore it and not have to re-set them up when I do a wipe and install?
[G1 Android Development] mcp2009:
then what exactly is "swappiness"
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
i dont really see it if there is, i mean even the dialer pops up quickly now lol...
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
swappiness is basically how often swapper uses the swap function....from the sd card im pretty sure thats it anyone crorrect me if im wrong
[G1 Android Development] jigdagod:
I just turned off my swapper for a quick min and my phone slowed down so drastically. They say swapper can shorten the lifespan of your card so is swapper just a temp fix to keep Rosie at these speeds or will this be apart of it always?
[G1 Android Development] armoredraven:
My guess would be this, though I'm not sure it would work:

Using "backup for root users" backup app data and restore the data for rosie.apk. It should work if no drastic change occured

I'm updating to the latest right now. I really changed the update.zip for myself though. I removed the apps I don't use: A2SD, Twidroid, Mail.apk, and the widgets I don't use. I even edited a lot of the framework-res.apk, so let's see how flexible that file is.
[G1 Android Development] Nismo300zx:
it shortens the life doesnt mean its gonna die in months...its still gonna last its normal lifespan minus maybe a yr
[G1 Android Development] mcp2009:
i know rosie doesnt support landscape at home screen. I was just wondering whats compromising it from working
[G1 Android Development] wilkil973:
sorry if this has been answered, but does auto-rotate work in the message app, and does the home screen auto-rotate?? can you open landscape mode on the homescreen yet??
[G1 Android Development] jigdagod:
Thanks I'll try that out.

Question, I was wondering what you were using to edit .apk files and such. I just wanted to check it out. I'm not trying to create anything I just have a curious mind about this stuff.
[G1 Android Development] JakobFriedrich:
how do i install the widgets
[G1 Android Development] armoredraven:
I really wanted to know this too before. Here's a secret.

APK files are essentially zip files. Just rename the file and remove the .apk and replace it with .zip. Open up that folder and inside you can find all the goodies
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
unless we get an official system dump for now swapper is the bomb lol...swapper will shorten the life but nothing drastic, it will still last 1-2 years.
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
no, no, and no lol
[G1 Android Development] jigdagod:
Oh okay, cool I'll probably have a 500GB SD by then if they make one. LOL
[G1 Android Development] jigdagod:
and how did you edit the framework-res.apk, by taking things out or like notepad or anything. Is there a thread about this somewhere because I wouldn't want to keep bombarding you with questions about it. Thanks for that secret too.
[G1 Android Development] lazee_smurf:
I just came from the dudes rc2 and had my sdcard partitioned using the ext2 it was @ 900mb for internal memory. Now I just flashed the jachero v4 by doing a wipe and then update. Went to apps2sd2 that was already on the card and hit copy apps to sd nothing happened. So I rebooted myself. I checked the internal memory and its at 56mb WTH! I went into terminal typed mount and seen where it said ext2 in the commands not ext3. I thought this build auto changes to ext3. Where did I go wrong?
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
it doesnt auto change to ext3 if im correct
[G1 Android Development] armoredraven:
Inside there are always folders like res, which contains the graphics and xml setup of the app itself. Then there is the met something folder, which contains other parts of the app, either than graphics. It's all pretty straightforward... Just explore
[G1 Android Development] lazee_smurf:
Gotcha, well how do I get it to use the ext3 and get my internal back to How I had it using the dudes Rom thanks in advance.
[G1 Android Development] armoredraven:
The version with ophone graphics is still kinda weird. I didn't use the old version, so I have no comparison.

When I try to mount usb, or when any dialogue bubble pops up, the part with the buttons (like mount or don't mount) are cut separate from the rest of the bubble... it looks funny it kinda looks like this:

..______

.|Usb co|

.|nnect?|

| M DM|

.|______|

A little section of the bubble is expanded
[G1 Android Development] jigdagod:
Alright. Thanks again. One last question. How do you sign it after you modded it?
[G1 Android Development] armoredraven:
Umm... I read a tutorial in the themes creation thread before that installed something on my computer so that whenever I double click an apk it signs it, or right click a zip to sign it... Check there... Sorry
[G1 Android Development] jigdagod:
Thanks again man, I appreciate that.
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
im not really familiar with the ext3 set up my guess would be to go back to the rom the set up ext3 for you and set it up, then comeback because i know its supported in the rom it just doesnt set up ext3 for you. There has got to be someone in here that uses ext3 i personally am an ext2 user myself
[G1 Android Development] Nismo300zx:
i believe u can upgrade ext2 to ext3 thru cyanogens recovery except i just dont know the commands to type
[G1 Android Development] nisto91:
I can't even get through the setup without 10 force close messages. I didn't do apps2sd, does that explain all the force close messages?
[G1 Android Development] Shaquiel Harris:
LED

does the led lights work now? nd how is this new 1.8b4?
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
i been meaning to ask are there any advantages or disadvantages of ext3 over ext2 ???
[G1 Android Development] lazee_smurf:
Thanks guys will look into it.
[G1 Android Development] crxtasi:
I guess the advantage from what ive read is how the partition performs when you turn off your phone. basically in a nut shell instead of just off it powers it down with the phone and not shock the sd card. correct me if im wrong guys.. :D

P.S. Jac get some sleep dude... but thanks!
[G1 Android Development] Franklees:
no, not till the script is perfected
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
i second that JAC get some rest, we wouldnt even be madd if you took a week off and did light work, you have been working like a horse thank you but do still get sum rest. lol
[G1 Android Development] 71CH:
Just wanted to say that I took the plunge and loaded this baby up. Installed SetCPU, left swapper to default settings. So far so good. Thanks JAC!
[G1 Android Development] armoredraven:
Hey JAC, I fixed the problem I had with graphic distortion on pop up bubbles using the ophone download. I don't know if anyone else had the problem, but it was a file in framework that needed to be placed...
[G1 Android Development] jawash22:
Ext3

It keeps your SD card from being corrupted when shutting down or having to force it o shut down. I also believe apps might start faster...not sure but I had Cyna's 3.3.4 rom and followed instructions in first post and after wiping and going to JAC it kept my EXT3 and did auto appstosd.
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
cool i mite make my class 6 a EXT3 then when i get it
[G1 Android Development] Indianbuddha:
Screenshots?

If its not too much to ask....can someone post up screenshots of this build? I want to c it b4 I install this ROM. Thanks a bunch!! :D :D
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
no offense but it looks the same as every other normal hero rom minus the superhero rom if im correct. But if u talking bout the ophone graphics hero then the ophone theme in the theme section should give you an idea. I wish i could do screen shots but i dnt have the app...
[G1 Android Development] Franklees:
1 create a folder called widgets on your sd card,

2 on the first page of this thread there is a download for the widgets, download, unzip contents into the widgets folder you created on your sd card

3 download a market app called astro, its a file manager that will let you view files on your sd card and install apk's. use it to install the apk's you put into the widget file on your sd card
[G1 Android Development] mcp2009:
7. How do I convert to Ext3?

Reboot into recovery (home + power), drop to a console (Alt+x), and enter: "upgrade_fs". Reboot and you will be at ext3.

With cyanogens recovery image
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
if u upgrade does that wipe everything on the ext2 partition ?
[G1 Android Development] mcp2009:
Quick question about ext3. Since i already booted up and everything will i have to undo app2sd or wipe and reflash 1.8bv4 to convert to exxt3 or will the conversion not mess my files up?
[G1 Android Development] mcp2009:
ha wow i just asked the same thing lol. thats what im wondering. im tired of redoing app2sd and reflashing
[G1 Android Development] jamizzal:
yea theres still alot to get to know lol....
[G1 Android Development] syncronox:
great work justanothercrowd, you have worked hard to provide with us a good fast rom
[G1 Android Development] JakobFriedrich:
very good rom little bit clunky
[G1 Android Development] Indianbuddha:
Thanks i wasn't sure if it was the same :D
[G1 Android Development] nisto91:
How come android phone force closes when I try to use network?
[G1 Android Development] kkozuch1:
Hey quick question for anyone using swapper. Does it really speed up the UI, is it worth it, or is it hardly noticable.