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[Touch CDMA Android Development] aven_soulgazer:
I downloaded all the new files, put them on my card and it went into infinite loop. I think I used the new system that's not hero. I deleted all the files off including data and tried again. Still inifinite loop. Downloaded the last bundle and it worked. Replaced each file one by one and it seems to work fine now with the hero one. I like being able to delete icons off my tray, is that new or did I just miss it before?

I like it, just wish the actual sense ui could work, but I've heard the problems that actual dream users are having with it on better hardware
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
i updated the system image per dzo's instructions. The one he'd updated had a few files that were out of date. Should have the latest google maps which I've only given a two-second check to make sure it launched... maybe they've fixed the alternate density issues, maybe not, we'll see.

I also added superuser back in (not sure if anyone uses it, maybe the task manager apps use it? dunno), and the api demos.

If you were an avid user of amazon mp3, my apologies you'll have to grab the apk from somewhere else, it was just filling up space on my phone :D

EDIT: Oh yeah, a new bundle is on the way too, just has the latest updates from today in it, nothing beyond that.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jsun21:
Great build, thanks for all your work!

I'm curious right now, I always have some Ongoing process running in my notification area, and it just says "Loading Data, Please Wait.." Does anyone know what that is?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] ljmeli:
Is anybody else getting a force close on a google.partner app (or something to that affect) after boot up? Other then that I'm loving the fact that there is now voicemail notifications!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
Sounds like your google data is syncing, contacts and email.

Yeah that happens with the ion builds. Everything still works though.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mfpreach:
Wow this is the fastest build yet for people like me with slow memory cards! Amazing!

I do have 1 problem, my gmail timestamps are wrong. It is not so when I login to gmail from my laptop, but on the phone it is show weird hours that don't correspond with that on the phone. Anyone know how to fix this?

Thanks
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
double check that your timezone is set correctly, or it will show the wrong times for all your appointments and emails. Also, you might have to go onto your gmail account settings (from your laptop) to be sure your location is set right for timezones.

Coming soon is an update to the RIL for automatic timezone and times from the network, as well as support for voicemail notification from verizon (and other carriers).

We might even get working call waiting id!

Look for it this weekend.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cccpms6:
Would anybody know why some applications are not running on my phone. I get an error and a force close. I tried the Global Time just to see if it works and I got a force close on it. The previous build, the 1.1, worked fine. I like this one better, but it seems like more of the apps are not working. The camera is also down, and the picture gallery keeps jumping around. Its loading the pics but its also going in and out of that screen. I don't know whats going on. Any idea anyone?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mfpreach:
Thanks Vilord you are the man, that did the trick. The reason I didn't mess with it before is because it was displaying the proper time and date on the clock so i assumed that automatic settings were working properly.

How far are you guys on getting speakerphone to work?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
Try updating your apps. Many of them have been reworked to play nicely with cupcake.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mfpreach:
I noticed that when I get a notification and I don't respond to it, subsequent notifications don't make a noise to notify me. Anyone know how to get around this? The reason being that sometimes I don't need to look at my email but sometimes I want to see text messages.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
Try smspoup, it's pretty slick, or other third-party sms apps. I think there are a couple out there.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mfpreach:
Thanks I will!

Again, I am ecstatic as to how fast this new build is! PROPS!

Does anyone know what the different indicator lights mean: ie. the red flash, orange flash?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
red flash is power collapse (powersave/suspend), orange flash is charging, green flash is fully charged or normal/idle.

Eventually we'll make the changes so android controls the leds instead of the kernel, at that point the colors may change.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mfpreach:
Thanks for the quick answer.

Yeah it would be good if the light notified you of a notification!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
Okay everyone, new initrd posted:

-support for automatic time zones and network time!

-better support for voicemail notification (supports verizon now, and maybe others too)

-working call waiting ID!!!

You can switch calls now... you can't switch back yet, but if you hang up, the old call seems to re-activate on its own... Still a work-in-progress.

I haven't done up the GPU kernel with vibrate and ADB yet... does anyone still want it, or is the newest/latest kernel with the initrd updates fast enough?

-Jesse
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
I can confirm it works great on vogue. Great work you guys! Let's hope we can get it to swap back :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mfpreach:
The latest Kernel is BLAZING you don't need to mess with it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mfpreach:
Hey vilord, I tried the new initrd and my time zone still doesn't automatically update. All other data functions are working fine, I still have to manually set the time. Is there a way I can force it to look for the new time, I just tick the box and the time doesn't change.

Thanks!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
New stuff posted, new initrd, and new supptools.zip that contains everything you need. No more 1.1 for data files, sign-on just works now!

mfpreach - you have to wait a bit for the sync to occur. If you set it for automatic and reboot it should get the update.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mfpreach:
Hey, I did reboot, twice actually.

I will let it sit for awhile instead this time.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
The new stuff will set the time on a reboot. The old stuff you had to wait for *something* to happen, i don't know what.

Also, for anyone that tries the new stuff with the blank data file, until I get system.img re-uploaded you'll need to reboot once after starting up to get the radio to show up and to get sign on to work. just reboot as soon as you get the "press here to begin"
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
ok, in the name of all things new, i updated my mssmison google maps 3.0 to 3.1.2. seemed pretty similar to 3.1.1. Still turns GPS off when you go into directions, search, etc. despite all the little advances of the 3.1.x series, I think it's more convenient for me to have the GPS remain locked while getting directions and so on; i've rolled back to 3.0 and will wait to see if this gets fixed in the next release by google.

Interestingly, I don't know how many have been experiencing the "not enough memory, traffic will be turned off" error when trying to use traffic; don't know if this is a fluke, but so far have not gotten this using traffic in 3.0 - been using for 5 min now, which was impossible with 3.1.x.

So far it seems google maps 3.0 just functions better with our current GPS setup.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
what does maps 3.0 not have compared with 3.1.2? Maybe I'll use 3.0 on my system too... hmm...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
it has no long press functions, so you can't long press on map and get directions to there, street view, etc. you have to search for an address, or get street view from the map mode menu. Lattitude got a few updates, but who uses that - the iphone doesn't have it yet, and I can't seem to get any of my friends to use it.

probably the biggest thing missing from 3.0 is options for walking and transit directions. you only get one direction type.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
hmm. maybe i'll stick with 3.1.2... i'm more likely to use walking/transit directions from google maps, i have copilot for driving directions... and it *usually* doesn't cause the phone to reboot :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheKartus:
I loaded the newest Hero system file onto my phone this morning, and after unlocking the screen, I would get an error message saying that android had an error and had to be closed. The phone would just get stuck in a loop of shutting down and restarting.

I reverted to yesterdays Hero file for now and that seems to work fine.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] fireshaper:
Can't wait to try the newest files when I get home. Thank you guys for all the hard work you are putting into this! I know I'm not the only one sitting on the edge of my seat, reading each post and hoping that it has the words "I uploaded new files" in it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] crono999:
I loaded all the latest updated files (mssmisonsystem.img), running great, very smooth and fast operation. However, I'm missing all of my media (ringtones, notifications, etc.). I know they are on the card in the resources folder, and they all showed up properly on yesterday's mssmisonsystem build. I'm using my old data file, instead of letting it build a new one. Is there some obvious reason for this?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] drprince89:
I cant get the new mssmission build to boot it says "failed to mount /data"
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheKartus:
Are you trying to boot it without an existing data file?

If it is the same as the old hero build, you need to use an existing data file, not let it make a new one.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] KERKEDAGAIN:
umm..this is a first..i'm trying to restore on of my data files in the backup folder. I rename it to just data.gz and run haret..it says, however, that it failed to extract data image. I'm trying to boot msmissions hero image. Am I doing something wrong, missing a step?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] ejlmd:
This is really an extraordinary ongoing effort by the developers. Thank you for your hard work and expertise.

A small ergonomic/usability issue on the HTC Vogue: the left side volume slide control, used in these Android builds for back and menu functions, feels sort of flimsy to me, and I get the sense it could become a point of hardware failure. Have you considered mapping these functions elsewhere, like to the central rocker switch or to softkeys?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
You rename it to data.img, not data.gz.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] KERKEDAGAIN:
Yeh..i already tried that and when i do that i get "failed to mount /data" or some funny bizness like that..

*edit*

so I ended up creating a new data store seeing as to how I deleted the backup file I was trying to restore..as always and expected, msmission, your build runs and looks so fantastic it's scary!! I still would like to know how to restore a data file for future reference; mainly because of the loss of potentially crucial text messages. If anyone can give me their typical method for restoration or help me see where I'm going wrong, I'd appreciate it. As for now, I'm a happy camper inputting any text via voice instead of the keyboard.

-Use guys are the best..i got cases coming your way(s)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] nabicat:
Mixing system.img and zimage

Has anyone found a workaround for the filepicker crash on the hero branded system.img? Was going to try out the pdf viewer, along with the office app, but neither goes very far before throwing an error around the filepicker.

Also, is the mssmison hero system.img compatible with the latest zimage file from yesterday?

With all the great development work that has come together in the past couple of months, I've switched to Android F/T.

Thanks all.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
nabicat, which hero branded system.img? There are two... mssmison or nk ?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] t1mman:
Congrats!

Just a little feedback for you guys,

I've installed latest image with hero built (system-nkhero-2009-07-23.img ) and everything works pretty nice! Audio search is surpising, even gStrings Chromatic tuner seems to work pretty close to reality (not tested throughly, but a couples of minutes with a guitar).

Just one downside for now; I can't seem to get a speedometer to works (at all) even though I get locations right and following (jog tracker is also impressive).

Keep up the good work guys!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheKartus:
Check if your resolution is 320 x 480... not 320 x 428
[Touch CDMA Android Development] omgwtfbbqkthxbai:
although using the default resolution prevents you from being able to run some apps (particularly the sweet new music app), none of them are really deal breakers for me. i can't stand 320 x 480, it reminds me of when i was a little kid and had my computer outputting to an sdtv via s-video. too blurry!

it's a techno sophie's choice of sorts. :) did the people playing around with the lcd.density options have any luck making it a little more bearable?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] KERKEDAGAIN:
It was mentioned that an lcd density of 148 'compensates for a few of the anomalies' normally found..one major difference is that when in Google Maps you can actually see the little markers for your search, though you still can't see the reviews/info (thats why I use Places Directory). The benefit of seeing the marker, for me at least, is that at least i know roughly what side of the street my destination is. I started trying to find another density w/ more real estate that produces the same effect but it was getting on my nerves having to boot, boot, n reboot with each number changed..so for now 148 serves me pretty well..clarified some of my widgets n everything
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
have you noticed that an lcd.density of 148 breaks anything? It used to be that anything but 160 would cause google maps to crash upon trying to access the directions list
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
I'd just like to pipe in that I've changed my resolution to 320x480 (from 320x428) and aside from the bluriness, and fixing some apps that didn't fit properly (which we all knew about) the screen calibration seems to be much better, at least for the HTC keyboard. Before I changed the resolution, hitting backspace was not easy. It usually ended up with L instead. But with the new res, that seems to be fixed.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
What lcd density are you using? it's not blurry at all for me at 160?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] omgwtfbbqkthxbai:
not blurry at all? b-b-but how?! you lucky dawg!

no matter what resolution, yr build is still tight and blazin' fast. it's unbelievable.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] oxsolid:
Google Voice & $HTC-ERIIND: 3

I have Sprink

the NK build

everything else 7-23

and google voice APK

this may not be applicable to everyone since GV is in beta, but when i set the calls to be made through GV, my carrier info switches from Sprint ->$HTC-ERIIND: 3

$HTC-ERIIND: 3 (is verizon, it gives me a "welcome to verizon message") and the call doesn't go through

so this is probably too specific for anyone to know the "how to fix"

i just remember seeing the $HTC-ERIIND: 3 before somewhere on the thread for a different issue

also a side note (this might be way more interesting to everyone) is that i got Telenav up and running**** on my phone.... harder to figure out than it sounds.... but the issue is that the program doesnt communicate with the GPS... (so its basically worthless) its a little frustrating, because it seeeeems sooo close to having the gold standard of turn by turn gps working on our phones

dev's

any ideas why the telenav APK can't talk to the gps?...

could they have hard coded the software to talk to a different com port or something?

if anyone wants to try it you need to get the apk for the G1 ( ota. ), and then sign up for a free month trial

...it can be a little cheaper if you have sprint simply everything ;) ;)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
I was just using the default. I tried 148 just now, and i'm not a huge fan. I'll try 160 and post back.

It's not like it was hugely blurry. Really, just a tad blurrier than at 320x428.

EDIT: Yeah, 160's perfect, thanks!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] nabicat:
I had the mssmison, but missed that there was a slightly newer NK version. I've just replaced it with the NK and all is good.

Cheers
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
I'm not sure who put the nk version up or why but I don't think we need two builds with the same theme. I'm going to move away from the hero skin on my next release and whomever was doing the nk version can keep it updated..

I have already started working on it, Ill post it in the next couple of days.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] omgwtfbbqkthxbai:
if you don't mind me asking, what sort of theme are you working on? what sort of treats can we expect?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] KERKEDAGAIN:
That is still the case. I willingly sacrifice the lack of directions because if I'm using it for round town commute, I dont need step by step directions; just a marker telling me where I need to end up.

I agree that the 320x480/160-density combo is manageable but I'm wracking my feeble little mind here trying to find some resolution combo that would produce more real estate and at least the minor achievements found with the 148-density/"native" resolution. I'm here making equations trying to find some semblance of relation between 160 n 148 coupled with the 320x428 resolution.. Am I way off base here?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
lcd density of 160 does not affect my google maps.. The only thing that doesnt work for me is camcorder because it requires a different resolution.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] KERKEDAGAIN:
Yeah..I know..the "downside" is lack of screen real estate. My issue is I like having more space for icons on the home and being able to see more options in my settings page, stough like that makes for a lesser need to scroll. With 160 the scope is limited..so i trade the full functionality of maps n htc music (which still allows me to play/view all my music files in the "now playing" playlist) so i can have my space.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
Than you've answered your own question. Unless you want to program another launcher that gives the functionality you want. Maybe that would stop everyone from bringing up this same question over and over. :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] KERKEDAGAIN:
You wouldn't believe how much I would LOVE to do that!! It was actually a week ago or so when I discovered the whole 148 being a sort of "magic number"..and i started trying to see if there was some sort of resolution/density equation I could come up with. After that I started changing the density number, one by one, to see if that did anything..as you can guess, both those methods took up MAD time so I gave up and settled at 148 x 320 x 428. My curiosity has been re-awakened and I would LOVE to somehow contribute to this project, particularly in this regard..its just that i have NO programming experience, WHATSOEVER! If you or anyone could point me in the right direction to take this on, I'm more than willing..specially since I realize use guys are cooking up far better tweaks n improvements

..oh yeh and my main reason for posting all this is: Due to my lack of insight into the whole programming thing, I'm really just bouncing these ideas around to see if these are even POSSIBILITIES. I'm a very theoretic person whereas you guys have the concrete. If it's possible, I'm willing to get my hands dirty and help. If it's not..you give me the word and I shut up n keep my theories to myself, ha!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
the word... seriously we have way bigger fish to fry.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] refthemc:
mssmison, seriously calm down with your little attitude you have against the users here. Yes developers are necessary here, but so are users like KERKEDAGAIN who test and try the releases. Without them you would have no one to try out your little themed builds, no offense bro, but an update by vilord, dzo, or srwalter is far more important than yours. Sorry if i'm coming off a little tuff but i hate when guys that think their big pick on little guys....

i'm really just asking that you respect everyone's comments, even if you think their stupid...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
Where did THAT come from? I didn't think *anyone* was less than calm until I read your little hissy fit there.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] refthemc:
you know i did kind of just snap at mssmission and i apologize, i just didnt like that he put down someone else's idea so quickly
[Touch CDMA Android Development] omgwtfbbqkthxbai:
i, too, thought it was a little cold.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
Wow,

That was hurtful. You really think all I do is bring little themed builds hey? And from your high horse you thought I was having an attitude? I'm not going to bother to list the things I've brought to the vogue android table, all the time and hard work I've spent on this project. I'm just going to say this.

I wasn't having an attitude, I've asked DZO more stupid questions and comments than probably anyone in this thread. I understand wanting to learn, that's how I know what I do.

Funny I was just talking with vilord today about how I wasn't even going to release my hero build. I guess I shouldn't have, cause I really don't feel like I deserve to be talked to like that.

Moving forward I'll happily keep my 'little themed' builds to myself.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] KERKEDAGAIN:
Alright gents...lets not go doin or sayin anything RASH now! (i.e. no more themed builds :eek:) I didnt take any offense to the statement, tho I can see how the written word can be misinterpreted..gotta love that! All the devs work is GREATLY appreciated despite how much it may seem we're complaining or nit-picking..thanks for stickin up for the 'little guy', though, ref..we're all family! HAAAA...(k my attempt @ butterin' everyone up stops here)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] theelite:
I enjoy mssmison's build. extra apk's not included in the original and a different look. I think the more people we have contributing to this project the more successful it will become.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] refthemc:
That comment on your themed builds was uncalled for and immature, and i apologize mssmission, your themed builds are actually amazing and i truly appreciate them. What got me upset was how quickly you shut down KERKEDAGAIN, like you said, you've asked some stupid questions yourself, i just ask that you would treat him like you would like to be treated, with kind and respect. once again though, i apologize on my stupid remark on your themed builds, which by the way, are awesome
[Touch CDMA Android Development] derekwilkinson:
WTF, are you on drugs? What the hell are you talking about? Did I miss some posts??? :confused:

mssmison kicks ass, just like all the other android developers. What have you done? Anything?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] lazyvegaskid:
gotta agree here, tried the new NK build and it kept force closeing before the icons even popped up. very disapointing. going back to the hero build since it ****in rocks keep up the great work on these themes
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
+1.

We all can get annoyed with people asking things that were asked before, or bringing up things that are far less important than the big picture. We've all done it, we've all been there, all the devs are important in their own special areas, the mssmison system.img is a great build (my favorite) with a lot of extras and took a hell of a lot of work. . . nuff said.