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[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] masr:
Hey, If somebody could get Linux on the HTC Touch HD to work, we have a working Linux on our HTC!!! Isn´t this the most important thing? If nobody wants, nobody has to change the Linux-Kernel, but the Concept of Android is that it works ON linux and uses all the Drivers which Linux provides, so if Android 2.0 comes, why should we have to change the "Linux-Kernel" with all the drivers?

And when Android 1.5 works on the Touch-HD, It will spread like the wind, everybody will talk about Android on the best Hardware. Haven´t you already seen that in the Internet there exist MANY speculations if there will be Android for the HTC Touch HD? Look at the poll! In so less time, JUST in our Forum "xda-developers" where only are the nerds and geeks, there already 148 people voted for Kernels!!! Imagin, these people will suddenly all have Android on their Mobile! They will show it to all their friends, put Videos of it in Youtube, and more and more people will have Android on their HTC-Touch HD. My mother for example has absolutely no clue about firmware-programming, but when there is Android, she really likes me to put it on her HTC-Touch-HD. She has the same phone like me :-) My father wants to buy the HTC-Touch-HD, if Android works on it.

And imagine, if Android 2.0 comes and everybody, who has now Android 1.5 wants Android 2.0, IMAGINE, HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD DONATE FOR IT!!! :-D

Hey in just 12 (TWELVE) DAYS!!! 280 Euros! And we are JUST AT THE START OF ANDROID!!!! :-D

When Android 1.5 is ready, I will kiss the programmers and also donate for the Android!

So when I like it and suddenly there is Android 2.0 and we all want it, we will donate for it!!! And if we dont want it, Android 1.5 is a complete version. I mean, nobody has to update from WinME6.0 to WinME7.0! :-)

WinME6.0 is a working system!! And Android 1.5 will always work, also with his market!

Once, all the Drivers work for the Touch-HD, maybe Google will help us with the Android 2.0!

The Hardware of the HTC Touch HD stays the same. Android is just an application, which uses the Hardware.

@xmoo: Hey, your Work was really great! You made the display work!!! And much more!!! I understand that sometimes you have no time to work, but imagine Android on your HTC-Touch-HD :-) WOOOOW! Hey, we will donate for everything! :-) Please help us!! :-)

Greetings! masr
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
I am very sorry if i hurt any one. I really did't mean to hurt any one feelings.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
This is also one thing. You people think it's about the Donations!

It's not, it's about having fun etc. while doing this.

Donations are a bit extra next to it.

Well good luck, this was probably my last comment on this thread.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hobbit19:
+1

Please help us
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tids2k:
Want to add where you left ::

NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE AS EVEN IMPOSSIBLE MEANS I-M-POSSIBLE ;) WE CAN DO IT[/
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] orux:
Hi;

I think it is my fault the situation of the old code, but

1.-The diff pushed to linuxtogo was pichurri and mine work and research kernel. It was never ready for a commit.

2.-It is not easy to do research, disassemble, code, clean code and home, make my wife happy ;) ... all together

3.-I spent two months after last kernel update surfing in a million of assembler code line sea, looking for a solution about rpc system. But it is not easy!

4.-I am sure that "NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE WE CAN DO IT" but some deserts are too large.

Nevertheless, if I can help you in some specific porting problem with old code. I am now experimenting with android-java oruxmaps and I don't have much time, but I could help you.

orux
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] wizern23:
After yall get 1.5 running off of one of the builds with root all you would need to do is a basic update to 2.0 donut. From the looks of it that samsung only has an updated build and wasnt fully customized like the htc hero or the ophone so it would be easy to get it set up when it comes out.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] patp:
It's no sweat if tuxhero wants to do it his way, and hopefully the coders whose work he's insulted have got thick enough skins not to be bothered. Of course, this somewhat controversial stance could be a set up for a grumpy withdrawal in case it turns out to be too hard after all ;)

I do know a bit what the problems were with the earlier attempt, and I (and Orux) have talked about it in this thread already. I'm looking forward to seeing how tuxhero will approaches these challenges.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tids2k:
well patp i dont know what you think of the previous developers who had been working on this project before, but for me and everyone else they did contribute a lot into the project even though they had to stop it for some other reason, im not starting a fight here, but rather than bringing good intentions into the project, insulting the previous developers and patting abhi wont make a difference to it.

have you contributed anything to the project yet if i may ask ;) dont take it too seriously ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fards:
Well I disagree with you on that one I'm afraid.

I don't consider his comments to be insulting intentionally or otherwise, I think for some reason you are reading more into it than is actually written.

I'd put it down to a bit of over exuberance rather than anything else..

The only thing he's been critical of is the ordering of the code, which is fair enough; although it's also good to remember with group efforts of people doing stuff in their spare time, there's never going to be as clear code layout as someone who does it all on their tod..

Unless someone takes on project leadership and lays it out properly of course.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] masr:
What should I do?

Hi, everyone! Please stop the discussion now! Could you please all open a new thread to talk about thinks that have nothing to do with android and also do not make the programmers feel good? :-)

To Abimanyu:

I want to help you with the code, whatevery you want. What should I do?

Where is your source-code? How can I compile and test it without putting it every time on my mobile? And what do I need to know?

masr
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] wizern23:
Yea keep this thread on track. we dont need it to get closed.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Currently i2c is unable to init because of some clock issues i am working on it after that i will add mmc support and make my first release with that release i will keep detail (including screen-shots) of every thing. mmc wont take much time i will be back very soon with all the stuff this community needs.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
I will never let that happen wizern23.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] itchy8me:
hi again,

i just like to restate that im a linux junkie, doing my 3rd year in electrical engineering and have programmed in linux before. I also have a 2 month holiday coming up within 2 weeks and would love to help, i would however need some small pointers to get me started on the road.

I REALLY WANT TO HELP and am NOT intrested in any donations or rewards.

greets,

Wernher
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
orux and patp had did alot of thing for this project i always see orux name a lot in the kernel tree. orux your code is far better. All the problem i got is with clock,proc_comm etc.. which was written by diamond developers. They are not at all comparably with android-msm tree. porting and integrating them with rest of the kernel become very hard.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tids2k:
thats really nice to hear mate.

get in touch with abhimanyu

im sure he will help you for sure
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
@itchy8me currently i am busy working on kernel give me 2 more day i will guide you. Till then i suggest try reading http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/ and try configuring and building x86 kernel. Ya i know we need to work on ARM not x86 but x86 has lot of resource so it will help you get started with kernel.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] LikeM8:
lot of progress here!!!

You can dowload the android ROM for HTC touch diamond and others HTC handset:

http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_rokdownloads&view=folder&Itemid=68&id=3:htc-raphael

Enjoy!

LikeM8
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dwaradzyn:
To tuxhero:

I'm very interested in having Linux/Android running on my PDA. I'm following the project for almost two years now and I would like to put some comments about this thread.

The first and the most important thing is that every effort toward Linux on HTC should be respected. Guys like cr2, dzo, NetRipper, dcordes and others spent a huge amount of time working on it. They are active almost everyday since I follow this project. Statements like "the old project stopped" are simply false. They did not stop - anyone can check irc logs and confirm that. Everything achieved in getting Linux/Android on HTC machines should be considered as their contribution.

Tuxhero, you on the other side have just started working on it. So far you have made a lot of fuss, a lot of promises and collected a fair amount of donations. This does not look good in from my point of view. I really hope that you, will keep all your promises and will improve your public image in this project. There should be no divisions and no enemies in this project. Please, try to keep it that way.

The fact, that some code could be improved shouldn't lead to insults toward code's author. In reality it almost always means that the author did not have enough time to make code beautiful. And there are plenty reasons for that. In this state of project it is not the most important thing to constantly refactor the code. Other participants are simply trying to get thing working first.

I agree with you that refactoring should be done as it will be beneficial. I do appreciate your work. I just think that you should approach it in a different way. You should have prepared a constuctive list of improvements, discuss them with others, and then start coding. I hope you will reconsider joining the others - this is the right way to really contribute.

PS. I hope I didn't insult anyone because of English not beeing my native language.

edit: removed comment about audio. it turned out that someone was impersonating cr2. not nice :(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lemat1:
is this hd compatable?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lemat1:
tested rap version, boots, call functionality i think ( it new i had a voicemail, but key mapping graphics & screen off, will test diamond version now
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cr2:
i thought that a scammer like "tuxhero" will at least know how to hide his IP on the irc channel while using an unregistered nick ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lemat1:
diamond version does not boot, however the graphics seem to be sorted, but wrong screen size, obviously!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] wizern23:
i just got this message from Edvard over at htc-android dot com. regarding the diamond/raphael android port.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] LikeM8:
Hardware liste between Diamond and Blackstone?

Can someone make hardware liste (BT, wifi chip, ...) between Blackstone and Diamond, it should be useful...

LikeM8
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tids2k:
abhi can u change the Current Task : ? in the first post to what u r working on atm.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] wizern23:
These are the specs i can find on Gizmodo from the official releases are:

Touch HD=

• Connectivity: Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHzWCDMA / HSPA: 900/2100MHz. HSDPA 7.2 Mbps

• Display: 3.8 inch Wide Screen VGA screen (480 x 800 WVGA)

• Camera: 5.0 megapixel with auto focus – Second Camera: VGA

• Internal memory: 512 MB flash; 288 MB RAM

• Memory card: microSD™ memory card (SDHC™ capable)

• WLAN: 802.11b/g

• Bluetooth®: 2.0 with EDR

• GPS: GPS/AGPS

• Interface: HTC ExtUSB™ (mini-USB and audio jack in one; USB 2.0 High-Speed)

• Battery: 1350 mAh

• Chipset: Qualcomm® MSM7201a™ 528 MH

Touch Diamond=

Connectivity: WCDMA / HSPA: 900/2100MHz. HSDPA 7.2 Mbps and HSUPA

Operating system: Windows Mobile® 6.1 Professional

Display: 2.8-inch VGA touch screen

Camera: 3.2MP, with video calling

Internal memory: 4 GB Internal Storage, 256 MB flash, 192 MB RAM,

Bluetooth: 2.0 with EDR

Wireless: WiFi 802.11b/g

GPS: GPS/AGPS

Interface: HTC ExtUSB™ (mini-USB and audio jack in one; USB 2.0 High-Speed)

Battery: 900 mAh

Chipset: Qualcomm® MSM 7201A™ 528MH
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
cr2 I know how to hide my ip but if i did that how would you know that i did it. What every i do i will do it openly not hiding. I think we had enough fighting. Our goal is to port android not to fight or win. I want you to join us and help up or if you want me to join your team that also fine with me. Please Join us and help.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
I changed it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuantuti:
i like this project. thumbs up to the developers :D i will contribute if i know anything. congrats tuxhero on this project.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vr6only:
WOW!!

You guys are simply awesome. The Touch HD is a great device (thanks to XDA cooks) and with Android it will be even better.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
I have been playing around with the old Android 1.0 build the old team cooked.

Man! The HD will be awesome with Android!

Everything feels so smooth and quick compared to WM, i love the way the menues work. :)

I was surprised that I could send SMS and call with it, and kinda stressed when i got an incoming call from work, haha.

Too bad I couldnt get PacMan to start. :p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bopp:
I would really love android on my HD! Would also contribute some money when it is there :)!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lambstone:
guys. i'm having a little trouble running the cupcaked android 1.0. i've did everything in the wiki page, checked that the card is a primary partition, copied the files to the correct location. However, when i run garen to boot android, the command lines stop at this

[ 7.9876811] init: cannot find '/system/bin/installd' , disabling 'installd'

how can i run android on my hd?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] 1337_V1k1n6:
try again.. once in a while it does not boot correctly, but try again and it should work
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lambstone:
i've tried it several times and it does not boot still. by the way. typically how long is the initial boot time?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
edit: I was wrong.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lambstone:
oh. it doesnt work with the transcend card? why not?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] LikeM8:
HTC Touch HD repair guid here!!!

Hey, here the repair guide for Touch HD:

http://www.tradebit.com/filedetail.php/5692917-htc-touch-hd-blackstone-pda-phone-service

But you have to pay:mad:

LikeM8
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Kai0:
False, I have the Transcend micro SD card that comes with the Touch HD and I can run Android V1.0 with.

After updating the HD ROM, Android doesn't start anymore.

I have formatted the SD card and it's working again.

Then you have to format your sd card with a low-level formatting (search for the software sdfv2000.exe and format to FAT32).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] LikeM8:
here the service manual..free

with part list ;), 8Mb size, if you interrest send me your mail Tux and others...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6JQYY63C
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] LikeM8:
Component P/N list?

Thanks Tux,

Do you have a list of component for Blackstone (Wifi, bluetooth,...) chips?

I have to check if there is not available driver for lunix machine.

Thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
no not fully.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xaoc747:
download from here - http://ifolder.ru/10388497 (put letters to "window" - push Далее - then you'll see link like this http://ifolder.ru/download/474/?10388497&YJ8aw6LMxXz6lhggmYCo1g==)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nova_vx:
With this file we have the possibility to know everything about hw or not?n:confused:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
My bad.

Going on info from old posts.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Revin:
Great

It will be veeeeeeeeeeery nice if we will be able to choose operating system.

One of my friend bought G1 and he is still telling me how it is better than WM. He will be very jealous when I show him that I can run both systems - WM and Android :)

I should send some donation soon... waiting for payment for job ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] brumbrum:
Android is better then WinMo on these devices according to me.

If I had knew that it was this hard to port android to the device I would have waited with blackstone and bought a magic instead. But now I own a blackstone, and it is a really expensive device, so it's nothing you just do.

Although, the blackstone is good. With a nice rom, like Miris WM6.5-roms it gets really nice. But it would be even better if we where able to flash android on it instead.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] stefh:
Does it help when you get a full comparison selecting the devices you want to compare here:

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer

I guess it is already more advanced then standard specs comparison on gadget sites?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] wizern23:
To those that use this compare the HD to the Diamond 100. They have had that one working for a while.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] andes83:
I'm really glad that there are good people that are trying hard to put android on the HD keeping fingers crossed and hoping to see great results.Maybe someday this will be on our HD :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKTD...ews/view.php?id=12794&feature=player_embedded
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
I request every one to read Spl note at http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3936960&postcount=1
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] 7896zx:
When do you think this will be finished like an date estimate would be helpfull thanks! Good Luck!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Kincho:
willing to help

Tuxhero,

I will be more than happy to help you in anything you need but I don't have developing skills.

If you can guide me or give some other dutty I'll do my best.

btw: good work
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ultimatepichu:
it'll be nice if one day i am to be one of your beta testers in the future =)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Ticoq:
Would like to help

Hi,

I'm new on the forum but i would like to give some helps on this project.

I can spend some times on it and i have some knowledge in developing on hardware and java (but most for web).

So let's go !
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Small Good News.

After a long time there is a small good news for us guys github has given us 1GB space for hosting our kernel. :) Currently i am setting up git repo after finishing it i will post url and instructions.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lox_Dev:
Great Tuxhero. You are THE man.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
GIT Server is Ready

Hi Friends,

Our own git server is read. This time there will not be any server problems as it is hosted at github ;)

Web URL : http://github.com/tuxhero/Blackstone-Android/

GIT Clone : git clone git://github.com/tuxhero/Blackstone-Android.git

I did't commit any of my changes i will review all my changes and commit them tomorrow.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lox_Dev:
Wow HTC Hero with HTC sense interface has been announced for July on htc.com
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
If every thing goes well we can get htc sense interface very soon on our Blackstone too.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lox_Dev:
Great! And do you think it will be possible to have our HD being flashed with an android rom instead of running it from winmo ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
No it is not possible.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] philfan:
Sweet! I hope things go fast and smooth so we can see this on the touch hd soon!!!!!! Good luck!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lox_Dev:
Well this is really anoying to me.... I just wonder why ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Zwonzen:
yo

me dun kno if sumbody heared about dis:

http://groups.google.com/group/android-platform/browse_thread/thread/209b512a9fdf7367

but it would be great if it would be integrated...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tids2k:
well what he meant was not at the moment and if everything goes well .. flashing it on to the HTC's disk and having a dual boot wouldnt take long .. so just wait and pray that tux finishes this project asap . ;)

we all are waiting like you ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lox_Dev:
I am not in a hurry at all but TuxHero post was clearly saying it is not possible.

Did you ever manage to have a dual boot on a Winmo ppc ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Flashing Android Rom Directly to Blackstone will break you device. Currently What we are doing it using haret to boot to android from windows.

Android->Blackstone Not possible

Blackstone->Android Possible.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
But the future goal is to evetually be able to flash it to the device, right?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] frogjaw2:
1.5 on the vogue now

http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/

they may have the gps to work which was a problem in the last project

thanks tux

keep it going
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daniel.hunt:
I don't understand this statement at all. Surely if Windows can boot from the device, then *any* other OS can aswell?

It may be difficult to figure it out, but it *is* possible, correct?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Ya in the past i think few people successes in modifying wince bootload to run linux kernel after we finished all the kernel work we will look at it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Team

I want to start building team so if any one interested please PM with some short info about you and the area you are interested in.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daniel.hunt:
Ah I understand now. Perfect! :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Rumbi:
@tuxhero

Do you mean coding-stuff or does your request includes beta-testing as well ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] DarkStone1337:
I'll be receiving my blackstone within the next couple of days. I'd love to see this project progress well :D

Good luck!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cavlovic:
I'm also interested in beta testing. Thanks!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Everything i can use all the help. But one condition i want you to stick to this project for very long time.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Borbosch:
Argh! I knew it! Please stop posting betatesting requests!

I think tuxhero is searching developers for the team.

Edit: Whops. Too late
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Yes i am searching for developers but also for testing team. Developers are much important right now.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Borbosch:
That's the point. But most people see someone posting about betatesting and all the other people reading it are following. And 30 minutes after that, there are 3 pages full of requests.

You are at a point where is nothing to betatest, correct me if i'm wrong.