yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] itchy8me:
hi there,

i would very much like to help with the development of the kernel. im currently in my 3rd year studying electrical engineering and have background knowledge of programming in linux, however i hav never touched the kernel.

is there anyone that can give me a boot in the right direction to programming the kernel. a couple of practical examples in the kernel code and what that code does on the blackstone would be really helpfull.

im looking forward to helping out and giving blackstone owners a option in running another os than winmo.

thanx in advance,

greets itchy
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Goose4all:
oh, really?

thank you, it's not common that they change the sources of an open source project...

to the rest of the chatters:

can we stay focussed on the development please..?

if you wanna chat, feel free to open a new thread.. this is becoming too much of it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] patp:
Can you link me to the comments where this is? I can't find anything about backward compat.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] JerryBarcenas:
Also on the android roadmap support is comming soon for wvga vga and other screens as opposed to hvga... And quick question will this development include Hero Rom with rosie ui?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Hi everyone Sorry for not giveing reply to your questions i have been busy working on kernel. While i am working i may not give reply but don't think that i left this project. I will never leave this project untill we got a fully woking android on our little blackstones. I thought it is good to keep in touch with you people that's why i am posting this message.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tids2k:
good going ... abhi

keep it going pal ... take your time... we aint in a hurry ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
tids2k this project is going from very long time many people came n went so i don't think we can wait any more we got to finish it as soon as possible.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] christianxxx:
Yes, please! I'm on fire for Android! If I had the money, I'd buy a Magic straight away. But now, I can wait for this project...

Sorry, this wasn't very developer constructive. And I just can't find the delete-button...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
you are free to express you feeling n thought. All you comments,donations keep on encourage me alot.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Goose4all i am alone working on this project so i don't think we should stop ppl expressing there feelings there posts are always very encourage, It's a very good feeling to see all this people are with me.

@everyone very shortly i will release first beta but don't expect a fully working version. Our first release will contain 2.6.29 based kernel with basic hardware support.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] core7x:
im also a linux fan .. im really want android on my HD .. :cool:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Timbojames:
Tuxhero, you really are being a hero!

I would love to have Android on the Blackstone.

Wouldn't it be better of you would get some help from the diamond side? it seems like a truckload of work for someone on his own.

I was wondering; 1.5 is the latest released android right? and I thought this version doesn't support 480x800 resolution . .

Or did you get your hands on the 2.0 version or something?

Keep up the good work, I'll be watching!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] masr:
Hey, tuxhero! I would be SO EXTREM happy, if I had a working Android-Version on my HTC Touch HD!!

What you do not know: Since the beginning of this year, I NEVER missed any news of Android for my phone! I have a google-alert on "Android + HTC-Touch HD" and I am also registered at a webpage, with which you can observe webpages. It lookes every day in our Android-Wikipage and if something new happens, I get an email. That was the reason, I saw this new forum-thread as one of the first of all :-) (the same day).

I don´t know how to express my feelings to a complete Android-Version, but before you made this thread, I REALLY thought about buying the HTC-Magic, just because it has Android installed! :-)

But why buy a worse hardware, if I have the HTC-Touch-HD with the best hardware and Android on it? WOOOOWWWWW!!!

THANKS, tuxhero :-)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] LuisFarpas:
Keep up the good&hard work, not wanting to put that many pressure on you, but hd/blackstone owners dreams are on your hands.

Eagerly waiting for that beta!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Imperium:
I can't wait!

Good job so far!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] wizern23:
Android can be made to work with any screen resolutions because they already have it on netbooks. Android can work on any hardware it just has to have everything pointed n the right directions like key mapping. The soft keys at the bottom are the same as on the dream and magic.

since it runs from the sdcard will it know to look to the sdcard for files like music and to put the apps and data in the right place? Wouldn't it be easier to create multiple partitions on the sdcard to point it to the right place.

On my dream i have apps to sd set up so that apps,data, and the cache goes to an ext2 partition. since most people have 8gb sdcards for the HD they could just create a up to a 1500MB partition. Anything bigger than that wont work right. On the partition the ext2 partition there would need to be an app,app-private,data, and dalvik-cache folders.

I don't know much about programming but i will help out as much as i can.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
I think running it from sd card is just a temporary solution in order to get a proper hardware support. Once this is achieved it will be certainly flashed on the internal storage, won't it?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] furrypotato:
Good news. Having managed to get the basic version running from previous project I'm very keen on your new thread.

And even when you just start getting the basic kernel working it will create a buzz around the project as people like it when they can see something running on their own phones.

With luck, each improvement you make after that towards full compatibility will keep that excitement building :)

So thanks for all your hard work, we do appreciate it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobik91:
how long time we muss waiting, than we are going to see the system android at our HDs:confused:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tids2k:
lol right said fred ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] enatefox:
Can this not be Blackstone specific? We need kernel devs for Vogue and Kaiser too. Willing to help but need help getting started.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hobbit19:
Toolchain For Android

Release Notes

EMBINUX™ Cross Compiler (ECC) is based on GNU Tools strictly adhering to open source standards. This toolchain is designed for building Android stack.

These release notes give you information about installing toolchain in your system and compiling Android build with it.

This release of ECC contains the following features

Supports thumb instructions, cortex core

GCC has been upgraded to 4.4.0 and binutils to 2.19.1

http://labs.embinux.org/index.php/Toolchain_For_Android
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fards:
tux, I'm happy to help out where I can.

I've some experience of nix but nothing like the lowlevel knowledge you've got..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] masr:
I also like to help! Tomorrow is my last exam at my university and after that I can help you! I can program in C / C++. I never programmed a kernel, but I can learn it :-) I am a Linux-Freak!

So just tell me what to do :-)

masr
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cr2:
The blac100 kernel does not differ much from raph800, so any real kernel

development is done on raph800, which is a more advanced device.

kaiser and vogue use a different CPU, and have much better linux kernel support

(sound et al.) Why do you mention them here ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
cr2 i accept that you have done a very good job but we want to do our own kernel developement. 90% of our kernel will be based on you code only but our code is going to be structured,clean,fully documented, fully compatible with standard kernel and 2.6.29 androd kernel based.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Braveheart1980:
I simply can't wait to see android on my touch hd!

I will gladly help you in any way - like beta testing

Unfortunatelly my programming skills are not so good....
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tids2k:
abhi @ have u compiled the kernel yet ? is the boot arguements ready ?

cant wait to test 'em.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
i have finished porting htc_fb_console and basic board support. Currently i am working on msm_fb and epson LCD Panel drivers. As soon as i finished i will release our fist version. Without LCD Panel Drivers we can boot kernel but we can't start android. As i am new to qualcomm platform it took me some time to understand it and understand msm kernel tree from now thing can be speedup. Any one who is interested joining this project and need get started help can contact me at me@abimanyu.in i will provide you all the help you need.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Geeba:
Just curious if any bits have been pulled over from the other atempt to get Andriod running on HD? afaik they had screen drivers working?..... seems pointless re-inventing the wheel - but I know very little on kernal stuff to be honest.... :confused:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
@Geeba i am using old drivers only but they need lot of clean up and improvements and we need to make them work in 2.6.29 kernel that what i am doing now.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nova_vx:
To be honest, how many possibilities u think are to porting before blackstone hw became old or if can u give an estimated time to complete?

Thanks and sorry for disturb... :o
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
Very nice to see things are moving forward tuxhero!

I read this thread many times a day. :)

So, when the time comes... will we be able to test this thing from our SD-cards without disrupting our current WM-installation?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Nice question nova_vx

I can't give you estimated time but things are moving very fast than our previous developments we can see many improvements with in 1 month (may be we can get all our hardware working too). This is just a guess based on current status of Raphael/Diamond Project and Our project. Raphael is also consider because if they got a working code can also get it working (I am there to port it to our stone) :) .
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] empewoow:
Just donated $5,-. I hope it helps and keep us updated guys ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] patp:
I did notice considerable changes to the SD card stuff in the android kernel branch... perhaps the problems ppl had with Transcend cards might go away.

I'm still unable to find anything in the source that suggests the older AMSS version we have will be supported though. Any reference to this welcome, tuxhero.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Archoz:
@Tuxhero

This is way cool. You're my hero as well.

I actually bought a Touch HD three months ago in anticipation of running Android on it. I've been checking development ever since.

It was disappointing to see the previous development getting stuck, so thanks A LOT for getting it going at this speed.

I know lots of people would be VERY HAPPY with Android on their Blackstone. The fans on this thread are a tiny fraction of your fan base.

I'll be donating a fair amount when the beta version is up and running. I suggest everyone interested in having Android fully operating on their Touch HD does the same.

Because really, doesn't it kind of suck to have this marvelous little machine... with a crappy, sluggish and closed operating system from Microsoft?

Then consider what it's worth to you to have all these wonderful, free Android apps on your great device.

Awesome.

To the individuals who were merely following this thread, like me, register and show some love!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigDaemon:
If i see the first version here, i will also donate some $ in hope you won´t get stuck with this like the other try.....

I really love android and i love my HD, both together would make my dreams come true :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
It's not only you dream BigDaemon it's all our dream. We are all in it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tids2k:
very well said mate
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] doudouhightech:
I am waiting for android too

First of all excuse me for my english.

I follow this tread too, and I am very interesting in android on touch HD.

So thank you for your work.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cr2:
cr2 i accept that you have done a very good job

I have nothing against you developing on 2.6.29, but the 2.6.27 vs. 2.6.29 kernel changes are

really marginal, so porting 2.6.27 code to 2.6.29 is not really rocket science.

Well, show us the code and not just hot air. Tell us about the rpc version and such ;)

Addressing the real problems is a tedious job, unlike riding the android hype.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] antrak:
I approve of this message.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Digital Outcast:
As I am very interested in seeing this succeed I am offering my time if you need any help with development, testing, etc.

Cheers
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] itchy8me:
why is no-one directing the developers that would like too help?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bebear:
Sorry, but why some of you are so angry!

Tuxhero just restart a dead project. It seems that he makes some progress and he didn't ask nothing except some help from who wants to help him ...

If you don't like his work, you can work on your own.

Why don't you just try to help him or just make some constructive comments.

@Tuxhero : So thanks for all your hard work, we do appreciate it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Ya i know that porting to 2.6.29 is not a rocket science but i want our own kernel for our stone not some other device kernel modded for our device (like our old kernel). If i got another developer working along with me then i can share code for him but i am working alone and if i publish half code many people will be asking question about it and i have to put much time answering those question rather than getting work done. cr2 i am in very early stage when i came to rpc thing i will surely let you know. cr2 i am not riding the android hype. I am just trying to full fill mine and everyone dreams of running Android on our device.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Status Update

I don't know how many people want this but i thought to post code status.

mem=xxx parameters causing kernel to freeze on very early stage. Without it kernel is able to boot fine.

clock-wince.c is no longer need as default clock.c with little changes works very well with blackstone.

board-htcblackstone-panel.c causes kernel to break as it use same namespace of other device code.

proc_comm.c don't not stop waiting for response from modem.

Developers of our old kernel modded all the msm kernel tree which cause kernel not to compile for any other devices which is a very wrong way of doing it's against Linux kernel standards we now need to correct it as i want to keep thing clean so that other developers can also work on our kernel.

This is not a final update the above thing may be wrong i will update you if any thing changes
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hobbit19:
@tuxhero

If you need help on the GIT , you can ask me. I have a dedicated server . Send me a PM or reply here if you are interested
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Thankyou cRaCKwHoRe i want all the help that you can give for this project mainly with development.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Cyclone_storm:
Indeed exactly how I feel to, and I find it fantastic that your working on it

Tuxhero. You are indeed really making us very happy. :D:D:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
I Removed List of donated people because it is creating problem with some members.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Archoz:
Does it create problems with the donating members? Can't you just make them anonymous? I think the list is valuable.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
No Archoz it's not problem with donating members. It's with other who did't get such huge response. This Thread got lot more donation than expected and become alot more popular

than any one think. That become a problem.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] masr:
Which problems? Are there some developers for Microsoft who privately have donated for Android? Haha ;-) I mean, isn´t it good to be seen as a donator?

Greetings! masr
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ASK768:
People dont donate just so they can recieve the fame of having others know they are generous. If they did it truly out of selflessness then they wouldnt mind not being accredited for it.

@tuxhero: This project really looks like its going somewhere and i appreciate you putting time in something, for free, for other people. thanks.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Digital Outcast:
Just let me know what you need. I don't have an environment set up at the moment but I can have one in minutes. Haven't messed with this stuff in a while... Kind of excited actually :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] enatefox:
So the real reason I asked about help with Kaiser and Vogue is that we are having kernel issues as well. Not so much our hardware but just figuring out Android. If this thread is really just going to be about one phone then by all means go for it but if you can try to make the info you discover friendly for others to learn from then it would really help us out a lot. We've done a lot on our threads and there is also a lot of clutter (is wifi working yet?? can't change screen size?? etc. etc.) and it's very hard to move forward.

I would love 2.26.29 for us and working with the HTC HERO's alleged Donut sources is also appealing. All I'm saying is please can you include some info on where/what you're doing? Thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Archoz:
@tuxhero: Ah I get you. I won't let praises and blames get in the way as they always come up with increasing demand, but I understand they are especially not desirable at this stage.

@ASK768: I think donations are not purely unselfish in this case as supporters would like to have Android on their Touch HD. A donations list creates some trust/ confidence for other individuals to donate as well and for other developers to join this paid for project. Unfortunately we still live in a world where money is needed to live a life, so we have to deal with that.

Distracting focus is not very helpful for development so back to the more important matters...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cr2:
You can see all the previous kernel work here : http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-msm-2.6.27

Some blac100 gpios are documented here

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Raphael_GPIO

and the general msm7201A research is at http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Raphael

Let me know where can i get any code or technical information for this "new" project.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
This new project is using the following information

Code & Informatiom from here : http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-msm-2.6.27

Other information from : http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Raphael
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
cr2 i am ones again saying you we are in early stage i can just port old code and release it right now but i want to build kernel in structured way like Linus Torvalds kernel. If we build kernel like you un-organized it will be just like another windows kernel. Beauty of Linux kernel is it's simplicity. cr2 you forget that at very very early stage and messed up all the kernel.

cr2 i am not saying i am better than you or some thing like i can do, you can't. I am just trying to finish some unfinished project in my way.

If you think you can finish it then do it cr2 i will handover this project to you and all the donations i received till now. I already said in my first post any one who

submit code they will be rewarded with the money we received as donation so if you get fully working kernel you will get all the donations + $200.00 USD as my donation

to this project. At the end all we want is fully working Android on our device. We are here to get work done not to fight.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mr. Nick:
hello,

tux.... can you give estimated time on your first release.... I know you said you would finish it by the weekend.. but the weekend has past... :D

no pressure at all I love how you are sticking to what you said in the beginning...

I would love to help.... but all i know is C# :(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Ya but mmc is still not working without it we will not be able to boot into android. It will take little more time. I have added a poll to this thread please poll your option.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Techvir:
I have been following this thread since it was born..

But i dont know which to select for ur thread...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
2.6.27 is our old kernel may people from diamond project are working on. We can use is as our base kernel. But has many problem and some things are working too.

2.6.29 is a kernel from android developer we need to write lot of code. We have to work alot but it's feature and we will be in sync with android developers. Seem to be much more stable than 2.6.27.
[Touch HD General] Hardice33:
I've seriously searched for the past 30 minutes and can't find anything that works. Any suggestions? I'm about to throw my phone through my wall. :(
[Touch HD General] ozmoran:
What exactly do you want to do? Edit cities? do you mean change the current cities shown and choose others?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 Software Upgrading] msimsam:
plz can u help me to discover JTAG pins for S200
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] PumpAction:
Some days ago I saw a video on youtube (which I can't find anymore) where a guy connected this 4in1 adapter

to his HTC Touch Pro 2

and this Iphone cable in the 3,5mm of the 4in1

He then started an application on his phone and he had video output.

Are these the right cables and where can I find this cab?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] hsukirk:
http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=7112
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] PumpAction:
Thanks! Very fast response! :) So will this work with the touch pro 2 too or should I get the normal tv out cable?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] mizhi:
yeh。I can help you 。and

http://www.htc.com/tw/ or http://www.htc.com/tw/product/accessory/cable_ac-t110.html

there are two webs that i can give you
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] monx®:
I dont think the iPhone cable will work because HTC extUSB has double sided terminal for differ function. And the 3.5mm jack maybe is for audio-in for external sound system.

(Here is unboxed, as free gift + canon selphy CP760 + 4gb class6 mSD when i bought this device -kind of promotion :p )
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] mizhi:
nobody see my reply？
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] PumpAction:
I've seen it but that wasn't what I asked for ;) I know that there is this cable but it costs around 30-40 euro here in germany.

The adapter + iphone cable just costs 8-9 euro.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] mizhi:
AT LAST ，I know what you means.but you mind was wrong,because 4in1 adapter is only used audio output

do you know what i means?