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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] raveztaylor:
Serious Lags

Is anyone else experiencing serious lags on their Touch Pro 2 with a 16gb card or are most people using an 8gb card?

I am experiencing some serious lag on my photo albums, documents, and music. I have had to do more soft resets with my phone in the past 24 hours (that I have had my 16gb micro sd card class 6) than I have had since I have owned my phone. This is my second 16gb card by the way the first was a class 2. Had no problems with a 2gb card however that is hardly enough memory.

Please let me know if anyone has suggestions!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] automechnic077:
This is what I ended up with my 16gb micro sdhc card... 29.00

Warning: Only 15983 of 15984 MByte tested.

The media is likely to be defective.

231.3 MByte OK (473833 sectors)

15.3 GByte DATA LOST (32259351 sectors)

Details:15.3 GByte overwritten (32256497 sectors)

0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)

1.3 MByte corrupted (2854 sectors)

16 MByte aliased memory (32768 sectors)

First error at offset: 0x000000000d75e000

Expected: 0x000000000d75e000

Found: 0x00000003e675e000

H2testw version 1.3

Reading speed: 6.60 MByte/s

H2testw v1.4
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Kenichi:
Yes it works easily, TopRAM Class 6 - 16gb, Seems like it takes a little longer no mattar what but it will work the same as 8gb or 4 gb or 2gb or 1gb :P
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ilordvader:
Kingston ships Class 10 microSDHC card
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] wcastillob:
HTC Tilt2 microSDHC compatibility

I used A-DATA Turbo 16 GB Class 6 microSDHC Flash Memory Card with SD Adapter AUSDH16GCL6-RA1 which I bought in Amazon.

I have no issues with it at all.

Working properly.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gehzumteufel:
I am actually going to buy this. Saw this announcement a few day ago via Engadget. It is $100 and totally worth it imho.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] crazie.eddie:
I bought a Sandisk 16Gb MicroSDHC card in January of 2009 for my Treo 800w. I just recently switched over to the TP2 and used the same SD card. The only problem I've had was that with my constant removing and inserting of the card, I eventually lost the data on the card. I know it's not an issue with the card, but basically just an issue of it being removed and inserted. After all, it's an electronic device. Static may have affected it. After reformatting, the SD card was usable again. I don't plan on removing the card anymore, since I have access to the device via WiFi, BT, or even thru USB.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sapperpipo:
i have a san disc micro sd 16 gig

i formatted it to a fat 32 and it works fine using it on my tp 2 from sprint cdma
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sapperpipo:
i have a san disc micro sd 16 gig

it works fine using it on my tp 2 from sprint cdma
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] blast0id:
what class?

this post is useless without know what class each card was...

what class?

what class?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gehzumteufel:
I have that new Kingston class 10 16gb microSDHC card in my TP2. It is ****ing fantastic.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ilordvader:
HI

can you tell me how much time does it take to

install a 700mb or 1gb Media movie on the card

wondeing how fast it is ?

thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] petard:
Class 10 means 10MB/sec so a 700MB movie should take 70 seconds.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gehzumteufel:
It took about 1 minute to transfer 850mb to the card.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] The Jack of Clubs:
i want 32gb already!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Kenichi:
I use TopRam 16gb Class 6 16GB Micro SD, I do not see a difference between my 8gb and 16gb, feels the same to me :).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ilordvader:
Thanks bro

waiting for USB 3.0

that would make it more fast :)

wonder why they still not out with a 32gb card yet :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gehzumteufel:
I am not even bothering with them. Soon enough, the phones are going to support SDXC, so you can go up to 2TB.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fade2black101:
I've been waiting for the card for way over a year an have put off buying a 16gb card for that reason. Although when they come out they'll probably be too expensive lol.

I just want to be able to put as much of my music as pos on the phone as I dont have any sort of mp3 player.

If the iphone went up to 64 gig i would have probably got one. Same goes for the n97 but since its so **** I probably wouldn't have got it anyway.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] The Jack of Clubs:
doesnt mean that right when sdxc is supported there will be 2tb cards. thats a really really fart ways away.

me too.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gehzumteufel:
USB 3.0 won't make it faster. USB 2.0 can transfer at 480Mbits. That is 60MB/s. MUCH faster than any flash card can handle.

I have a friend that just got rid of his iPhone for a Nexus One. He ****ing LOVES it. He is glad he got rid of the iPhone and AT&T's service.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gehzumteufel:
That's the thing though. The manufacturers have a VERY high likelihood of skipping on the 32gb SDHC cards and just moving to SDXC.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] batbummer:
i have 16 gb works fine for both touch pro i and II :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] The Jack of Clubs:
i dont think so. 4gb could be either sd or sdhc. almost all 4gb cards are sd for compatibility. i think if they are going to make a 32gb card, which is the next step, it will be sdhc. they arent going to just skip over 32gb and go to something like 64gb.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gehzumteufel:
You are flat out wrong. SD stops at 512MB(SD1.0)/2gb(SD1.1). Anything larger than 2gb, but at most 32gb, is SDHC. Look it up. Quit spreading this bull****. The SD specification from 1.0 all the way to 3.0, are always FORWARD compatible, but never BACKWARD compatible. The reason for this has to do with filesystem format support. SD 1.0 is Fat12, SD 1.1, is Fat16, SD 2.0, is Fat32, and SD 3.0 is exFAT. And I never said they would skip 32gb altogether. I said they would probably skip it in SDHC form, and just produce it in SDXC. ;)

I can't tell you how many times I have seen people like you come in and profess this bull**** knowledge. This happened in the HTC Wizard forums for a while till people listened to me when I would link them 100 times to the same god damned pages on the SD Association website that says EXACTLY the same thing I keep perpetuating, and people such as yourself, cause others headache as a result of your bad information.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] blast0id:
brand? class?

while you are probably 100% correct there is no need to be a **** to anyone... just tell them they're wrong and show them why, no need for cursing at them... just makes you look less credible/intelligent... just sayin'
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gehzumteufel:
It doesn't make someone less credible. It just makes me look like a **** and arrogant. In this aspect, these forums seem to be riddled with people making these baseless claims about SD, and I am just tired of it. Should I have been nicer? Sure, but **** it. Too late now. I don't give a **** really.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] blast0id:
well in my opinion, any idiot can parrot info from a consortium's website, so yes I think it does make you less credible, if only slightly.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gehzumteufel:
Credibility is not based on ones arrogance, but the accuracy in the information that is being reproduced. All information is just being regurgitated from somewhere. So you're reasoning is flawed.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] nonsence:
16gb class 10 microsdhc not working well for me

i use a kingston 16gb class 10 on my att touch pro 2. i'm pissed! it lags and slows the device down, and sometimes hard locks until i soft reset it.

since i also record calls to the sd card it has so far dropped my call 1 time while i was testing it.

i don't know whats up, maybe i just got a bad card.

but it seems to work fine on the computer. will need to test using my htc kaiser next, see whats what before i call up and ask for a replacement.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gehzumteufel:
I have the same card, and it is lovely. It performs VERY well compared to my old class 2 sandisk. No lag, copies fast.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rete:
Old post, I know. But I just got a Kingston Class 10 16GB card as well....and it lags, locks and generally misbehaves. Worst $85 I ever spent!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gehzumteufel:
More like you got a defective card. I have one of those exact ones, and it is fast as hell.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rete:
Thanks for the good news reply. The class 10 seems like it could be hit or miss on the rhodium. Other misses:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=730331&highlight=Class+10

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=670813&highlight=Class+10

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=651298&highlight=Class+10

Anyways, I am trying out tnyynt's SD TuneUP, and a scan with both Pocket Mechanic Pro and Disk Checker v3.3. If that doesn't work I'll shoot for a replacement.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gehzumteufel:
Flash memory is very hit or miss period. In fact, if you understand it better, do you realise that silicon manufacturing is ALL hit or miss? Are you aware of how they clock CPUs? They test a few out of EVERY batch. Depending on how they perform, depends on how that batch is clocked and locked. The ones that are the most stable at the highest speeds, are rated the highest. The ones that aren't as stable at higher speeds are clocked and rated much lower. That is the name of the game.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] charleswesde:
Kingston 32gb class 4. Works great, no issues thus far, best 25 bucks I ever spent.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gehzumteufel:
Kingston doesn't make a microSDHC 32gb. I presume that this is a standard SDHC card?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rete:
Thought I would provide feedback. I received a replacement Class10 16GB card, and it flies. Problem was with my first card; no problem to use these in the Rhodium.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gehzumteufel:
Glad to hear that you got it replaced and it flies! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] BenGman:
SanDisk 64GB SDXC Class 10 formatted as Fat32 works in my AT&T Tilt 2. Shows 60871.23MB under Settings > System > Memory (Stock 6.5 Blue looking ROM).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] daveb673:
Just wanted to add that I purchased a PNY 32GB micro sd card and it works just fine in the Tilt 2 w/Energy ROM, formatted FAT32. I think it is class 10 as well.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] im better with a pc:
even 64 gb cards work in the tp2
[HTC Excalibur] drifterrolly:
just wondering, because i remember on other phones that i had i could customize text and ring tones for groups of people, not just individuals. is there any way to do this on the dash?
[G1 General] ekeefe41:
Changing GPS/loacation settings from with in applications seem to be disabled.

In the past applications like PowerManager, or ToggleSettings could manipulate these settings with out having to switch to the OS settings menu.

My questions are

Is this working as intended?

If not, will it be fixed?

I did a search in the forums, i found nothing..

Thank you for your time.
[G1 General] ekeefe41:
Google search FTW

http://groups.google.com/group/andr...53ac809a69da9/e24e7f30cd989edd?lnk=raot&pli=1

Turns out not everything is in these forums.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] vozzie:
Anybody has a clicking sound when closing the tilt mechanism?

Thx,...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] combat goofwing:
yes, no sound opening but a clicking sound closeing it
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] galaxys:
I read in a few other threads that it did click when closed...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] vozzie:
Thx for the confirmation,...

Now i can stop blaming the person who broke it :D
[Off-topic] xtreme2001:
From other Samsung omnia forums, I have found that there is no way to save the settings in the camera, but only change them every time I enter the camera and take a picture. In particular, I would like to change the contrast, sharpness and sharpness to +1 (default is 0) and have those settings saved permanently - is there any way to do this?

Most importantly, when I save the picture at its maximum resolution, the file size is around 1mb. Other forum members have stated that Samung's software compresses the file and reduces the overall quality. Typically a 5MP camera should have a file size alot larger than 1mb - has anyone figured a way to have the camera not compress the file so small, thus increasing the overall picture quality?

Thank you.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] tegera:
Hey, can anyone tell me where i can find a litle more info on how to make a rom? I've searched the forum and found som good info, but i need som more or it's maybe just me thats don't get it?? who knows maybe i'm dumd ;)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] tegera:
i have kovsky kitchen and also bepes platform builder, the problem os that i don get it how i can mix topaz and X1 together ?? :confused:
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] gtrab:
take a look at the sticky threads

there are two kitchens there with many package options

mine even has a full tutorial

also, take a look at the developers share centre, itje and other cookers have shared many more packages there

jerpelea is always keeping his kitcheen up to date with latest SYS buils and TF3D-2 packages too
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] tegera:
I have read your TUT and it's easy to make a lite rom to X1, my problem is that i am trying to get the swedish topaz over to my experia, and thats the problem for me, i dont get it how it works. have read and read but stil don get it. Hav tryed almost everything but stil no good..
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Wild Child:
I would suggest contact smaberg...he seems to have the swedish stuff worked out....

WC
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattjirmanos:
Hi,

I was trying to follow the hero rom threads, faq's and all the reading.

I have since read the Fix that SPL thread, and the brick thread.

I want to just start over and put everything back to how it was before I started to do any kind of altering.

I have an SD card in the system, I flashed the new radio, and new hardSPL, but it is stuck on the Loading screen when i first turn my phone on.

I just got an external sd card reader, can anyone instruct me on which radio, and spl files will get my phone back to its original state?

Any help is appreciated, and thanks. Be easy on me, i've done a lot of reading and searching through all threads to try to find this...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattjirmanos:
Does anyone know which SPL files or radio files will get my phone back to default state?

Wiping wont work...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cassper1:
I've been trying to find something about the subject but no luck so I'm posting it here.

I'm not sure if it's just a case of my D2 but the RAM consumption is extremely high. After about 48hrs since the last soft reset, with no application running, the RAM consumtion is whopping 74%!?!?! Reading from the windows Memory card is saying: Program: Total 183.73MB, In use 134.71, Free 49.02MB. Out of supposed 288MB of RAM on D2 this looks quite scary to me, I'm experiencing slowdowns of the system when I'm switching between Opera, Mail, ocassional phone call and Contacts. I hope my D2 is not faulty, but I'd like to hear from you guys if this is a common thing or a problem with my D2. I compared with my colleague's Touch Pro and he's never nowhere near these figures, he gets max to 50%, if that.

Any help is appreciated.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WMguy:
yeah, she's a leaker. I'm sure your device is fine. I think Opera chews up a lot. I notice bigger drops after using Opera.

Have you tried using CleanRam? You'll be pleased with its performance. I usually run it once a day or so and it keeps the memory 50% or lower.

http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-cleanram.html
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jim Coleman:
The Single biggest thing you can do to speed up your TD2 and release a lot of that RAM is to switch off TF3D. It's a much better phone without it in so many ways.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grabejud:
this one worked for me..sktools seems dont have enough privilege to kill some exclusive task. One main culprit is opera running in the background all the time..
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tonyh0905:
I have been worried about what I thought was very high memory usage since I've had my TD2. Mine seems to settle at about 75%.

I have also noticed this drops to about 55% with TF3D turned off. As I like the TF3D interface a lot I'm not willing to lose it for the memory gains. I have tried running memory intensive apps like TomTom with TF3D on and off and there doesn't seem to be any significant difference.

I have been using Oxios CloseApps to free up memory. This work pretty well, but I'm going to give CleanRam a go, and see how it compares.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cassper1:
Many thanks, buddy, the app works a treat! D2 still manages to get to 75% of memory usage after a day or so but at least I don't have to restart to get to down 60%. It is still weird though, 75% of RAM constantly in use without an intervention - is this the way it was designed or just a poorly tuned ROM?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Reason4444:
My TD2 stick %64-65 level after one week usage without soft reset .. Even with TF3D :)

Daily used programs are;

Opera *****

Youtube ***

Chronos alarm * (3 alarm set for morning.. also chrono and timer sometimes..)

iGO8 *

Resco File explorer *

Resco Photo Viewer *

GS Finder *

Pocket Music ***

Pocket Player * (for mono bluetooth headset music transfer at gym :) )

Core Player ***

Mobibook **

Several games **

* Stars indicate usage frequency for daily usage...

...but i'm upgrade my 1.39 stock rom to new asia 1.40... Before upgrade, it's like yours %75 memory usage or above.. 1.40 rom seems reduce memory consumption..
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rexton270:
Well interesting...my HTC Raphael never goes over 55% and have similar apps in use as you do...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HTC Touch Freak:
Mine usually is around 55%-60%.

Can I ask how you close opera? Do you just hit the x or do you exit from the menue. i have noticed that when I exit through the menue the ram percent drops significantly. I also saw an increase in batterey when I started exiting through the menue and not the x button.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cassper1:
I already mentioned that in the very first post.. My colleague's Rafael rarely gets over 50%, that's why I started to wonder if there's something wrong with my Topaz
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] omar302:
Compared to the Raphael, the TD2 has more memory consuming apps, such as having the Enhanced TF3D with much more functions including the new start menu, new contacts center, new notifications & a higher resolution screen to name a few.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HandySpanner:
Don't worry about it

Free memory is wasted memory.

Your device should be using all the memory it can to cache all that it can and keep as many of your applications running as possible. That's how your device can switch between apps quickly. If you start another app which requires more memory than is currently available, WM will close one of the least used applications to make room. Until you start that second app, there's no point at all in closing the first one just so that the free/unused/wasted memory figure is increased. Symbian devices have had this behaviour for years and in fact it's been in place in WM for quite a few versions. Glad to hear that HTC's TF3D is making better use of it.

As it happens, Vista now adopts this policy, compared to previous desktop Windows versions: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000688.html.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WMguy:
This is the ticket with Opera at least. I noticed today that if you tap the X button, it will disappear from the HTC Task Manager so you think it's closed. However, I have SPB Mobile Shell 3.0 and also use its built in task manager assigned to one of my hard buttons. When the HTC TM shows no Opera running, I bring up the SPB one and sure enough it's still running. I wonder if HTC makes an exception to Opera due to the push internet feature so it doesn't appear in the Task Manager.

So, in other words, if you want to close Opera, use the 'Exit' command within the program.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HandySpanner:
*Any* program can make itself disappear from the user-facing Task List simply by declaring itself as a background task. My own D2 right now is running 14 of these background tasks, including Opera. Think of it like the difference between the "Applications" and "Processes" tabs in the regular Windows Task Manager. It's been suggested that Opera runs all the time to manage the Push Internet pages, although as I've said in an earlier post, there's nothing wrong in it staying around (so long as it's not consuming much CPU/battery), so that it's ready to be pushed to the front immediately when the user requires it.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] omar302:
You can make those "Back Ground" applications appear in the HTC Task Manager by deleting (or renaming) their names in the following registry:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\TaskManager\ExclusiveList\System\
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] andes83:
I'm quite new to this community and i want to ask a lot of questions to the people that know the answers i tried searching the forum or google but i get some bits and pieces of info that are most confusing and there's no straight answer.First and most important is about flashing my device and all the new ROM's that are "cooked" and my questions are

"Do i need to do that?"

and

"What are the benefits from it?" cause if it's only for looks there's a lot of programs that can do the same stuff. I supose ROM fashing has to do something with performance too but there's is no complete info anywhere only numbers and letters that doesn't mean anything to me.

I understand that there is no official 6.5 upgrade of winmo fo HD and thats why there are the "cooked" versions of it but how can i make a difference between a good "cooked" version and the unstable ones.

Also are there ROM's that can damage my device even when doing everything by the book? and..

Is the "Dummies guide..." thread for every HD no matter when you bought it and what stock ROM is already on your device ( i don't know if there is a big difference but i have to ask).

I guess i wrote all of this because I don't want to ask and write a milion more times when i do something wrong by flashing it without enough knowledge.I understand that these questions are the deffinition of "noob" but for me it's "better safe than sorry".