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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] shingers5:
and it goes on - the dreaded wobble convo. i am surprised to say the least. they all wobble. i have had mine for months now and it wobbles. i have mentioned on numerous occasions the reason why the wobble is necessary but alas people will be people. yeah it may be a design flaw and could have been better but it is there and will remain. none of you will get a tp2 without a wobble period. on the few ocassions when the wobble is more than it should then yeah send it back! but to send back the device time after time because of this is pointless. it is not going away. yep the tp2 could have benefitted from the hinge mechanism of the N97 but that is only wishing! hopefully future devices will be 'better built' for you wobbly phobes out there. i only wobbled my tp2 to check it and i havent wobbled it since. it doesnt just wobble on its own so why i should i be wobbling it. that is not in the spec list of the phone! to end i cant believe that tytn 2 owners are moaning about this as i had a tytn2 and that wobbled! :cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] shingers5:
some sense at last. why wobble the damn thing. its there so live with it. how can messing with it help at all? beggars belief all this
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] shingers5:
common sense prevails..................... sounds like your was used mate and quite rightly returned.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] raffstyle:
Mine wobbles on its own, when you hold it in the bottom part of the phone with a tilted screen then tilt the whole phone up and down... It wobble like crazy. Im not very picky in term of the wobbling coz i dont tilt the screen all the time.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] raffstyle:
damn... MPD denied me for exchanging my TP2 because of this problem. it sucks!! i just received an email telling me that they going to send my phone back in the same state. well i just wasted 6.70 and days without my TP2 !!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] lombardo8:
@ raffstyle

That should teach ya! Cant believe you decided to return it for that reason after all that you had read.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] raffstyle:
people here exchanged their phone 4X already complaining the same problem with mine... yet its my first time.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rookie333:
re

I've got my third device from o2 and all three devices have this wobbly screen.

HTC told me sometimes it is normal an other person from support told me that's not normal.

The amount of freeplay is about 4 mm only in direction to me,

but it also has freeplay when i push with the fingers on the left and right edges at the top off the display, i can push it down so that the lower side of the display touch the keyboard.

Please help is that normal or not I'm totally confused.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] shingers5:
damn now here is a case of the 'serial wobbler'!

1. why do you need to wobble the screen mate? seriously ask yourself that? what purpose or function does the wobble support? this is my issue with people who wobble the damn thing un necessarily ffs. the wobble is there cause of a design flaw in the hinmge support for the tilt screen. it is also there to relieve pressure of the ribbon that connects the screen to the body of the phone! like i have said before all these phones wobble but your issue is why can't you live with it? does it wobble on its own or do you apply pressure to make it wobble? people get a bit mad at me for my replies but i dont care as you don't need to wobble the damn phone period. why make something a problem that clearly isn't! all these phones have this wobble, some greater the others. until the screen that moving on its own without pressure then you know you have a problem! my screen wobbles as i checked wen all this talk broke out. checked it and never wobbled it again. the phone works spot on and the screen is stiff when tilted so i am happy! man seriously get over it and start enhjoying your phone! if you add pressure to most things they will move so ultimately the amount of pressure you use to test wobble determines how far back it goes!

GET OVER IT! ENJOY THE PHONE! HDSPL IS OUT AND 1 ROM IS OUT! have fun dude
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] shingers5:
they all wobble so get over it! it is what it is and does not affect the performance of the phone in anyway! fussy isn't a good enough word for this really stupid issue. we all have the wobble and some of us live with it as we know why its there but a small few find it impossible. my kaiser use to wobble without me adding any pressure to screen and its still alive! you dont need to wobble the phone ever as it doesnt support any function of the phone that you use. this small amount of free flex to aleviate any extra pressure that could be exerted on the ribbon especially in sudden unplanned movements etc
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] TyKH:
Completely agree mate. I've said the same thing. Yes it does wobble but also my old HTC P4350 did wobble. As long if you can slide the keyboard out pressing one side there's no problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] nunorsilva:
I'm sorry to disagree with you.

The wobble does not affect the performance indeed, but it affect the touch experience. In my case, wobbling meant that there was a "huge" gap between the screen and the hard keyboard. With this gap, the phone looses touch sensibility. I had to press harder to get a response from the phone.

And believe me: when you're in a hurry to do something and you notice that you device isn't responding as it should, you realize that it is an issue that has to be solved by HTC.

That's my opinion.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] richabi:
from my experience, my kaiser wobble got worse so i disected it. i found two screws that fasten down the metal tilt mechanism in that device. knowing these screws r junk, over tightening will break the heads off the screws and well...you'll be screwe. but after tightening them, my tilt was nice and firm.

im not sure how the rhodium is but i bet its similar. all i know is i work for tmo and have examined 3 different touch pro2s and they all wobble.

im sending mine back b4 my employee remorse period is up but for dead pixels. :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cocoaju:
Remember a couple of months back when I first got mine. There were no wobbles at all. After 2 months, it moves easily and wobbles back and forth. I can no longer touch the screen while it is tilted without holding on to the screen.

So I take my words back. Yeah, it wobbles and worsen over time and usage.

From seeing my friend's N97, I think Nokia has a better design (though you can't tilt at the angle you would like) as it holds the screen pretty steady and he was able to press on the screen without moving the screen backwards.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] re4701:
My verizon Touch Pro 2 has a tilt issue. When tilted the screen is able to freely wiggle back and forth at least 3/4 of an inch. This was not the case when I received the phone(originally it was stiff, wobble started after 1 week). Additionally now when i return it from tilt to parallel position it no longer clicks and holds tight (this began after 2 weeks). Is this behavior normal? Will the hinge continue to worsen over time?

I contacted verizon and had them send me a replacement phone. It clicks in to place but has a wobble of about 1/2 inch. So I'm not sure if I should even bother transfering everything over, esp if hinge on the new phone will worsen anyway.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] princeasi:
maybe this can bring some closure to some, FF to 1:06 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=019DUvmT8D8&feature=channel
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] spiderpumpkin:
The screen on my Tilt 2 doesn't wobble.

However, this is my 3rd Tilt 2 because I returned the others due to the screen wobble when tilted and defective End key on both. I was actually surprised that this 3rd one didn't wobble too.
[Touch 3G General] shobankr:
I installed iDialer and for some reason I am not able to uninstall it. I mad the mistake of removing the folder from the Porgram Files folder and I also tried reinstaling and uninstaling many times. now I have many idialer icons in the "programs" menu. Is there any tool available for Windows PC or Mobile so that I can remove unwanted icons and files?
[Touch 3G General] azahidi:
You can use Total Commander (freeware) or even file explorer (whicih is a bit slower than TC). Search for the file (e.g. idialer.*), usually in \windows.. and delete it. Usually it uses the extension *.lnk (try search idialer.lnk)
[Touch 3G General] DaM79:
If it is just about the icons in the startmenue, open file explorer, go to phone:>/windows/startmenue/programs and delete all unwanted files...

afterwards I would recommend to clean up the device by using eg sktools or something similar.
[Touch 3G General] shobankr:
Thanks guys ;-)
[XPERIA X1 General] caliban2:
I know, I know, the following question has been answered oh so many times, but that exactly is my problem!!!

Does an idle data connection actually drain the battery faster or not? I've searched the whole forums (not just x1) and really read a lot of threads... There are people who say "yes, it does" and the opponents. I've also come across a blog-entry on MSDN where it says it doesn't.

So, which one shall it be?! :confused:

I'm pulling Mails every 60 minutes, all other data-settings are set to manually. I'm asking this because of my post in Itje's Touch-IT v.10 thread. ("auto-disconnect after..." makes a phone call end a data connection on 3g)

Best regards,

Cal
[XPERIA X1 General] Firefall!:
I believe it DOES drain more. Why don't you try?
[XPERIA X1 General] caliban2:
Of course I will try. :) (especially if there's no definitive answer) But that would also mean I shouldn't play with my phone for a day - come on, seriously? :D

Nah, I'll see over night, post it here and then there's at least one specific thread on this from 2009. Thought i'd might ask anyway. :)
[XPERIA X1 General] scar45:
For me, it does NOT drain the battery more. What kills the battery for me is having IMAP IDLE enabled, which will definitely drain the battery, as it is actively using the connection, passing data. If the data connection is enabled and on, then it won't use more juice until it actually starts transmitting data. You'll want to check if any applications you have open (or running in the background) are set to "Auto Update" after a certain amount of minutes (e.g. RSS readers, Twitter apps, etc.)
[XPERIA X1 General] caliban2:
See? Two answers - two statements. *lol*

imap idle? are you using a different mail client or did i miss that in pocket outlook? Oo

Nevermind. Found it, Email Scheduler and Imap Pusher - reading into it now... ^^

nope, no apps, no automatic updates (that i know of. pretty sure i disabled them all. no suspicious process in task manager as well.) except mail-pull every hour. so, i'll see tomorrow morning what my phone has to say about it. :-)
[XPERIA X1 General] alex_mib:
I really think it drains the battery!

I noticed in past 2-3 weeks that my battery drains faster than before. I thought that probably it dies because i charge it every time i can: at home, in the car; I talk and use the phone a lot. I also noticed in past days that I got two "E" icons (edge) in taskbar instead of regular big "E" and antenna.

I got to conclusion that data connection drains battery faster, because i set up regular email check just recently.

The only way I found to disconnect data connection is going to Start-Settings-Connections-Comm Manager-Menu-Disconnect Cellular Data.

Can anyone provide a tip how to make it disconnect automatically after the program that required it was closed?
[XPERIA X1 General] caliban2:
not after closing the program, but after a certain amount of time... there are some possible ways:

- use "bandswitch" (not free)

- use "advanced config" (free) - more settings -> connections

- with a reg editor add these keys

- ...

i'm sure you'll find many other apps to do it if you search for them on xda. :) these above are just the 3 ways i tried myself since i've got my phone.
[XPERIA X1 General] caliban2:
okay, i lost 7% in 10 hours - so i guess an idle data connection DOES NOT drain the battery. at least for me that is. :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X1 General] Firefall!:
With the data connection constantly on and mailcheck every hour?
[XPERIA X1 General] caliban2:
Exactly. :)

- polling evey 60 minutes

- data constantly on

- gprs connection (no edge on my new carrier :( )

- 3 of 4 bars reception

- standby mode (phone doesn't wake up at new mail)

- cpu set at 122 mhz in standby with clock speed

but i'll have to see how it does in the next few days... and i'll give outlook email scheduler a try, for it's imap idle support. pretty sure this would increase battery drain.
[XPERIA X1 General] razor11:
And what do you guys think,

Is beeing on a hsdpa network without data connection but using the X1 drains more energy than the same circumstances but disabled hsdpa(only gprs but still not connected)?

And whats the situation when the phone is off with the both network type?

With what program can you do that?
[General Topics] wfactor9:
Yeah, so I am with you...In fact, I was just talking to someone about this and the potential demise of WinMo because (IMHO):

a) beyond the dedicated coders in this forum and power users like you and me, winmo does not have a broad appeal like Palm, RIMM and OSX has...granted winmo has a large embedded base

b) WinMO does not own a device platform like Palm, OSX and RIMM

c) Android is getting more attention (and taking away from winmo developers).

In most industries there is the Rule of 3 (3 big competitors and a bunch of smaller distant ones). Unfortunately, with today's indicators, it doesn't look good. Ex. Pandora for winmo platform vs. AAPL, PALM and RIMM - it appears, pandora just threw it out the door to see what would stick and this probably has to do with the sheer number of winmo devices and their screen formats. And, I too, have been feeling similar peer pressure as yourself. In fact, I had the chance to spend considerable time with the Palm Pre and absolutely loved it as it blended my personal and business life in a very nice way (PSST...I hated to let it go - I was politely asked to).

But, I am huge fan of HTC devices. I think HTC does have a shot but it requires a change in their strategy and building more coding/ecosystem resources.

Brian
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] patlabor:
Hello everybody,

i guess i fryed the g-sensor of my raphael.

noticed it the first time when i instaled a 6.5 rom a few weeks ago and saw that the album app in this rom did not rotate my pictures.

was not to worried about it but recently i tryed a few other progs but non of them respond at all to the movement.

when i open the calibration prog the "bubbles" just stay in the middle, and when i try to calibrate it it does nothing beside telling me to hold the phone still and a after a while "calibration aborted".

i tryed a hard reset, flashing another 6.5 rom, a 6.1 rom, and now even the latest original htc rom, none of this did any help.

did someone had allready the same problem and even knows a fix for that?

or is the only possible fix to return it for repairs?

if i do that and just flashed the official htc rom will also be my slp and radio the correct one or do i need to take some action to get that to warranty compliance?

thanks allread in advance
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fone_fanatic:
that is really odd. did u hard reset after flashing the stock rom?

For warranty repairs it is suggested that you flash a stock rom and return the original SPL, not hardspl.

Now i've returned two devices with hardSPL, one the usb port was broken and couldn't flash it back, but i did revert it to the shipped rom. The other, the screen just went completely white on the device and couldn't see anything so just turned it in how it was and never had any issues with warranty attempting to charge me claiming that the cooked rom and hard spl have voided my warranty.

BUT better be safe then sorry and not take any chances right?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] patlabor:
yes also think that is really odd, i suspect that the phone fell down one time too much and somehow that sensor is "stuck" or someting like that.

sorry for the stupid question but how can i actually see if i have a stock spl or hardspl? and what spl should be on an original german touch pro?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fone_fanatic:
to check your spl go into bootloader. Do this by holding down the volume key and pressing the stylus in the reset hole. Hold both of them until you get a multicored screen (Red, green, blue, white).

Your spl will be the second line. "SPL-xxxxx" if its just numbers, pretty sure its not hard spl, if it is, you'll get something like "SPL-1.90.OliNex" which is OliNex's 1.90 hard spl.

refer to the wiki for more info, or the sticky threads under the Rom Development section.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] manoli20:
when you go into the g-sensor calibration setting, what happens? does the spirit level graphic move??
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] djcaston:
Wait.... if you don't know if you have stock spl or hard spl, does that mean you've never flashed hard spl? Because you need to flash hard spl in order to flash cooked roms
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] patlabor:
yes sure i have hardspl but the last rom i flashed is the original from htc. so now i dont know if i still have hardspl or if the original spl from htc came with the rom.

the tree color boot screen says SPL-1.90.OliNex.

i guess that is still the hardspl but i am not 100% sure.

so if its not original, where can i get the original one that came with the german touch pro?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fone_fanatic:
The point of the hardSPL is that so it doesn't change when flashing between roms reducing the chance of bricking your device among other things.

go to this wiki page and it has instructions on how to return your device to stock spl. after you do that, flash a shipped rom for your device and you'll be grand :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] patlabor:
flashed once my thrusty old prophed with an stock rom and afterwards the hardspl was gone and i could not flash any other roms before hardspl again.

was giving that wiki page a try but i cant follow it.

to where do i have to copy the original spl file?

dont know where the hardspl file extract the stuff before flashing.

any help`?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheOnlyDidi:
When I open an SMS by touching the message on TF3D it opens another dialog than from the SMS inbox. I prefer the thread dialog from SMS inbox. Is there a possibility to tweak TF3D to uses this application?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TeeBone:
Your question is a bit unclear. On my Topaz the threaded inbox is being used by default when thicking a message from the TF3D inbox.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheOnlyDidi:
Yes, you are right but try the following

- from TF3D open the SMS inbox (you will see the list of all recieved SMS)

- click on an SMS

Also a thread presentation will be shown but different from the one out of TF3D.

I assume from inbox it uses the WM email application. For example now you can use the pre-prepared short texts as within the email function.

Is it understandable what I mean?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dsymbol:
the 1 from the TF3D sucks. lets say you're text'ing & accidentally close the SMS, your SMS wont be saved automatically in the draft folder.

Personally, I ditched the TF3D after a week of having it. it looks nice, but quite redundant for what I need.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] shade0723:
is there any windows mobile app that can use the built in camera to take 360 degrees panoramic pictures ?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] gladson1976:
i've been searching for the same thing for a looong time.

there is Panoman for Symbian (am using it on my N73, veeery fast and powerful) but nothing for Windows Mobile :(
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] shade0723:
for something as smart as windows mobile device i thought there should be atleast one good working program to take panoramic pictures. yes, I do realize that there can be many compatibility issues with wm6.1 just like with cool camera. I think you can enable panoramic view in htc diamond right ? so what can diamond's camera do and magician's can't since they pretty much share the same os ?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] gladson1976:
well, the Diamond has a 3.2 Mp camera. it would be nice to have a Panoramic camera app for the Magician also.

maybe someone can modify the Diamond camera app for the Magician :rolleyes: maybe...

or maybe even a separate app tro stitch a set a photos to form a panoramic view
[General Questions and Answers] Acky:
Hey guys, got a problem here that hopefully someone could help me with, I have searched through the forum and I've not seen any similar issues posted by anyone else.

My phone is the Touch HD, running the stock ROM from when I first got it out of the box.

Basically I can not get into messaging at all, if I try to access 'Messaging' or 'Mail' through Touch Flo 3D then Touch Flo just resets itself and if I go to 'Start > Programs > Messaging' then nothing happens when I click on the icon.

The most recent applications I have installed are the new Opera beta, Resco Radio and a dog whistle application, I have since uninstalled all these thinking that would fix the problem but it's not.

I phoned HTC today and they said to clear storage on the phone which then obviously does a hard reset.

I don't mind doing this but it's obviously a pain to go through and backup all my data, I'm just trying to find a way to fix my problem without doing a hard reset first.

Saying that though the device has also been running a bit slow/sluggish over the past couple of months and if I am going to do a hard reset then I might just start using a custom ROM.

Hope someone can help.
[Sable] Gibla:
Hi,

I have an HP 914c, I've upgraded with an original HP ROM but now I can't here any sound!!

At all! No ringtones :(

Maybe there is a problem with the Radio? Or it's an hardware issue?

Pls HEEEEELP ME Guyssssssssssssss!
[Sable] Gibla:
Solved! Installed Montecristo Rom!!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] jaypeev_9:
Anyone here playing Mafia Wars? I hope someone can develop this for WM just like in iPhone...

Thanks!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] alper1:
My friend was playing this game on his Iphone and it looks really good. If you want that kind of games I think you can better buy the Iphone. Iphone=PSP
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] jaypeev_9:
Yea, right but would be nice if we can play it on our Winmo device... :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] mallman:
just use the skyfire browser, works fine on there
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] jaypeev_9:
Thanks for the suggestion.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] zakariae:
i'm a addict of wafiawars too LOL

i play it thru www.tagged.com/mafiawars on my HD (opera), it works fast and perfect !!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] holengjuy:
I recently purchased a Touch Pro and unfortunately did not like it too much and returned it. One thing I loved about the phone was the factory sms/text message sound. I should have saved a copy for future use, but did not.

Could someone please upload the factory text sound file for me please? :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fone_fanatic:
HTC_Ringtones_and_Alerts

Thanks to NotATreoFan, taken from his 4.x series rom thread.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] sielski666:
ive searched all over in how to fix this with-in my own ability, i saw there was a cab that installes the settings into the handset. trying the cabs (pay and go as thats wat my sim is) this has not sorted the problem.

getting down to the problem in hand....when i go into the messages and select menu, then mms options and select it the settings dont come up. i am using a cooked from (phenix energy rom 3.0)

if anyone can help me with how to solve my problem then that would be exerlent.

looking forword to the help.

cheers