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[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] RufusThorne:
I've literally just finished flashing version 2.0 and already there's a new release. This is just getting rediculous now, Shadowline :-p

I can only comment on 2.0 for now: absolutely positively *LOVE* the start button and taskbar along the bottom. I have Windows 7 on my desktop, and my Topaz matches it wonderfully with the little 7 flag on startup ^_^

4-Row Start menu is actually *very* good. I had my doubts at first, but the more I use it, the more I like it.

Downloading now *again* and I will report back. Yours are the only ROMs I will use now.

Edit: Still no Owner Info makes Roofie sad, and I find QRCode reader more useful than Microsoft proprietary coloured-square things.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] elmalote:
To create mirrors we need to download it first :p
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cyron_at:
...so quiet now..what are you all doing *lol*
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
Good luck with that! :D

And sorry, I am going to have to find a way to fix the owner info in the ext or something that isnt in the sys files, or create a cab...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cyron_at:
..fix for which version? 2.5/2.1
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
Any versions, its a WM thing :P
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] htakahasyd5:
Removing HKLM\ControlPanel\Owner\Redirect?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] NoMercyWWE:
Shadowline - your new cool design does not apply to the rom you posted with 23052 and manilla - check that please because for me its using the blue screen in the bottom bar but manila 2.5 works

edit: after a restart it does
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] anh4xeo:
OMG shadowline, I just flashed the other version 10 mins ago, and i refreshed the page, and I have seen the Manila 2.5 version came up :)) , what a great spirit you have, Thank alots for your work, I will donate you as soon as I get my first pay check.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
That is how it is done, but i dont know how to remove a registry setting using an app.reg

Working on updating some builds of files even more, and changing a few things to make it smoother, and there might be a new 6.5 manila build soon .:D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] RufusThorne:
The question is.. why did Microsoft see fit to remove Owner Info from WM 6.5 in the first place?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
Ah yes I forgot to mention, a soft reset is mandatory for this version after hitting the home screen. The next version seems to not have that problem so far. Though has no changes except in build numbers for some packages.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Rado_K:
Here is the Rapidshare mirror:

http://rapidshare.com/files/283259944/TEST_TOPAZ_23052_Manila25_Shadowline.zip
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
Thank you, added to the rom post.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cannedsoda:
Just flashed to 23052. I don't see the Settings button in the start menu.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] zard:
Can be done using mortscript.

Hope I can send you later when I get back to my desktop , of course to test first.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
Settings is in manila now, it is the softkey of the settings tab. I will be adding it back as soon as I can.

Mortscript is actually cooked in already so having it as a mortscript would be doable. I just know nothing about it. :P
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] zard:
Done and tested.

I have two files, one that comes with a prompt "Done!" for use by anyone after your rom had been flashed.

The other file, is for cooking in rom, which doesn't have any prompt after it is ran.

I had tested them, hope it works for everyone.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] zard:
On the latest rom with Manila 2.5, it's beautiful. Flashed, and now doing my email sync with Exchange 2007 and following that, will run Sashimi to install all my other apps.

Thank you.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] elmalote:
I fell asleep waiting for the download to finish :o

Going to flash now :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] elmalote:
Should I wait until a new build or should I flash this one :D ?

Just so I dont set everything up and you release a new updated version :p
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] pencilcase:
but ... but i wanna use titanium :p

testing now, will report later.

cheers!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] elmalote:
It has the WiFi bug :(:(

but the ROM is really really nice!!!!!

Thank you!!!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
Good morning p3ncil. :D

There are no planned releases for the next 12 hours. So flash away. :P

Edit:

Wifi bug? which version of the wifi bug? as there were many bugs with wifi. lol
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] elmalote:
The one that makes it turn on and off :p
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
nooo!! stupid bug!

Also did you soft reset after flashing?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] elmalote:
Yeah but it doesn't do it as often as other ROM's I have tried..

I have soft reset a couple of times..

but I haven't hard reset after flash though..
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
hmm, i havent seem to have had it yet.. i am starting to wonder if it is a radio thing. I am using 4.48.25.13 at the moment.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] elmalote:
I'm using the same radio version.. :o
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] pencilcase:
i am using a different one but mine hasnt actually turned on, only the icon flashing ... but i am really missing that settings menu :p

thanks for the dialer (- the scrollbar hihi ) but still great i am really liking the new builds but i think all the 230* builds (of 6.5.1) have this wifi issue ... i havent seen it in the 234* builds yet. what exactly is so unstable about those? I know you mentioned something yesterday ...

on the other hand ... i wont be home in the next 8 hours so 12 hours no rom sounds doable ... hard on the limit though :p
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
Hmm, odd... I wonder why this bug is sticking around soo much for some and not always.

Though I am off to bed for now. Good night all
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] elmalote:
Yeah its strange..

Goodnight and thanks again ;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] pencilcase:
perhaps someone knows of a program to monitor the activity on a wm phone in order to find out what process/application is triggering the connection or the attempted connection to wifi? I will go on the hunt later on but I'm currently still at work ..
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] hanswurst1979:
l3v5y did fix that already...

he found out that the CommManager is the application which let the wifi try to connect every minute or so.

i also have that problem, and he solved it by using the old Topaz CommManager in his 23047 ROM.

@Shadowline: may be he can help you solving this problem.

btw: that problem is interrupting the playback of WMP when using a bluetooth HS every 30sec - 1 min.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] pietrucci:
Like this ROM. But.. can someone please share a link to a working dialer?

I tried about all of them floating around, but none of them works on this new builds.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] TheGentAtXDA:
Duttys Leo R1 has no Wifi bug anymore, you might ask him. Last screenshot is awesome, really great. Keep up that stylish work.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] jandevries12:
Beautiful!

Hi.

This morning I flashed this ROM to my Topaz, and I just wanna say I think it's beautiful. The best looking WM I've ever seen!

I also found a few bugs:

- A lot of apps, which are available in the Windows directory, don't have icons in the start menu (e.g. Comm Manager, QuickGPS, etc.)

- There's a problem with the dial pad; it shows a scrollbar that shouldn't be there

- In the Start menu, the Settings option is missing

- In the Settings/Control Panel, the Owner page is missing/hidden

- When you're in Manila's Music or Pictures tab and rotate the phone to landscape, the menubar appears on the right side of the screen; and the statusbar appears at the left (so, they stay where they normally are in portrait mode)

- The Camera GPS is not enabled (by default)

- And the biggest problem of all: bubblebreaker (my favorite game) is missing!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ChrisXP27:
Please can u send me the new Theme?

or upload it in the First post
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] RufusThorne:
Some things are missing from the Start screen:

Camera (!!)

Settings (!!)

I'm going back to the previous build. I never liked Manilla anyway.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] zard:
comm manager data connection on off has problem.

can off but after off, when trying to turn on again, it launches connections.

happens to both roms.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] emails4me:
Wheres Teeter 2 and FM Radio ?

Nice ROM ! :)

But I'm reallying missing the FM Radio and Teeter 2 ? :(

Where can I find it ? :confused:

TIA
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] RufusThorne:
New Opera mini version 5 has been released - how difficult would it be to bake it in?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] pethro:
Hi Shadowline...

I am a little disappointed with you, it seems that now you only make test versions. Why? Since version 23016 you never produce a final version. Pleace make a solid work, is not necessary to have major releases every day just because the other cast too.

As I said before, for me the best version that you already release was the 23016th stable.

But, your artwork is fantastic... Have a good work... :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
Guess whats folks, its that time again! It is time for the uber long quoted reply post of answers!

I also noticed this from the BT Headset. I will try and older version, but I had tried it before with no luck, just not with this setup.

Well the only *Working* one with these new builds is the stock WM one. All the others do not like the new top and bottom bar sizing. Though I am attempting to fix the htc one up even better if it will let me :D

Thank you. :D

Soon, Soon. :D

I am still trying to fix it. :P

They are both in there, but the icons are missing from the start menu. :S

Not sure how difficult. Have you tested it with the included java manager?

Well it is the way you think about it. The Stable rom for me is anything before they changed the top and bottom bar, causing many many appplications to not work right or display correctly anymore. And since I like using the newer versions of WM I label them as Test or unstable due to this fact. They themselves could be very stable but those applications might still have the problem. The 23016 build is not forgotten, just low on priority until the major bugs get fixed that I can post to that build.

And I would rather have these test releases out so people can see what is going on and taste it for themselves. I do try to have the quickest releases when a new WM build comes out though which does cause some bugs, but that is still why they are all Test releases. And also about a "Final" version. Nothing my friend is ever final, there is always something that can be done for it, always a change, a tweak, or an upgrade. It is built into us as part of human nature to always want more than what we have, which is why you may never see a Final tag on my builds.

I hope I have answered most of your questions, and I hope to have a new build up later today if I can get the bugs squashed. :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] pethro:
I'm not saying you're doing a bad job instead.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] -Tk-:
just flashed the stable. looks very nice. some bugs:

-in the settings tab the icon for "mail setup" is smaller than the others and it's placed more to the left.

-In the lock screen with 24h time, date and day of week, the text is not placed correctly (it's placed too much to the right side, making the day of week barely visable)

question:

is there a setting that makes the lock screen appear when I press the power button?

new screenshot looks great, but does it need the weather background? I don't really like it :P I'll keep testing :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
Oh no I didn't mean it or take it like that. Just was trying to show my theroy on the stable vs test builds.

Not that I know of, but try a long press of the end key.

The weather background can be changed from the home tab, go to the menu of it (right softkey) and you will see. :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] gursoft41:
I dont found owners name input? this rom...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] pethro:
I perfectly understand your concept ... I do not really like manila, I'll be waiting for a new version (stable or not) :D at the classic style windows mobile v 23016t non manila...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Anarkin:
Hi!

I've a little problem, I could use some help

I've installed this : TEST_TOPAZ_23052_Manila25_Shadowline

And then I turned off the Manila 2.5 (better like Titanium)

And now I don't have ANY way to access to Settings ! I should turn off that "smart" checkbox under the USB settings, otherwise I can't connect my phone to my PC.

Also I can't set up anything

Help please :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] htakahasyd5:
Please copy \Windows\Settings.lnk to \Windows\Start Menu\Programs. You will find Settings in Start Menu.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Anarkin:
Thanks :)

I've made a hard-reset, then installed a stable ROM (not as smart as your idea but worked.. :D)

This ROM is really promising tho
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] -Tk-:
lol I had the same problem with the missing settings, nice solution!

The Test Rom looks amazing, the theme makes my screen look bigger lol.

bugs:

-the line between monday and tuesday and the bottom line in the calendar are black instead of white.

-When changing to landscape in photos/videos and music the softkeys do not change (already mentioned).

-PIMbackup fails to restore my messages on the test rom, it did work on the latest stable.

-When I want to hide the keyboard it brings up the menu, looks like there is no double tap timer.

-still random wifi

tip for improvement:

It would be nice if you could make every softkey the same size (and make them all icons), with for example a maximum of five next to eachother, but I don't know if you want this and have the time to do it :)

questions:

what is Peep? It doesn't open :P

Can you get the keyboard on your other rom in the test? the one where you can disable/enable the direction arrows. (or what is it's name, it's probably on xda already)

overall it is slow, but it looks so good!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
Peep is the HTC Twitter client, and is not enabled yet, but should appear in working form pretty soon.

The keyboard was scrapped for some reason in the new Leo builds, I don't quite know why. :S
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
Hmm, so good news everyone, there is a new manila build in the rom, new oemdrivers, which may fix the wifi bug (testing will be needed)

The new manila seems quicker, with a lot of new features like a twitter tab.

Screenshots will be coming up soon. Everything in this build is updated except for the build of WM so far. Even the topaz camera is from a newer package. :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] elmalote:
Go go go, cook!!

:D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
Working on it. The oemdrivers are being a pain. hehe
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] elmalote:
Damn thats just crazy :mad:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
Hm, the good news is the twitter tab is working. :D Bad news is everything except manila seems to not work, lol

Some new Screenshots:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] strausshouse:
Love this! I now have a conference option that my provider doesn't allow, and my option to make video calls has gone. This made me feel sad.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
Hmm next version is going to take longer than I had thought. I am having a LOT of issues with this manila and also with the new oemdrivers. Nothing is impossible, it just takes time :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] bukito1:
Good Morning Shadowline, you could give me permission to take your ROM, and pass it to Spanish, and replace the windows mobile English to Spanish 6.5.

Thanks in advance
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] elmalote:
Now I dont know which one to flash, wait for yours or flash udK's or Dutty's :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
I Just tried Duttys and it is a GREAT rom. Had to get a working rom on my phone since the last bit of cooking made it non bootable :rolleyes:

Hopefully it can all be sorted out today. And once it is, and confirmed to be running smoother, there will be a kitchen :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] -Tk-:
How come your stable rom has 62% ram usage with no opened programs? Maybe because of your awesome looking themes :P I've had some slowdowns in scrolling in TF3D. Waiting for your newest build!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] RufusThorne:
I don't like Manilla at all.

I absolutely adore Titanium.

Will you release a non-manilla version of the ROM seperately, or bake one with both in?

new opera mini 5 works OK with the included java midlet manager, but I'm having difficulty understanding the difference between Opera mobile and Opera mini - methinks one is not a java app but a native WinMo one?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
Well the new OEMDrivers are working well now. Just trying to fix manila and a few other htc apps.

Oh and I also fixed the camera app, It is updated to the latest topaz package, and I re enabled all the extra modes, so even gps photo is there again.

In any case the next rom will be up as soon as I can fix all the bugs (hopefully wifi too. :D) And there will also be an update to the stable build soon enough. :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] elmalote:
Sounds great :D

Cant wait ;)

by the way I got your email about donation, you can just add my elmalote to the donation list if you want :p
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mettedam:
Lockscene

Hi Shadowline

My lockscene button and graphics looks bigger in the test rom 23052 build than in your previous rom.

The previuos one had a smaller lockbutton and appointment view.

Is my lockscreen resolution wrong ? should be 400x800

BTW your rom looks beautiful and keep up the good work :)

Kleemann
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] chihliouma:
Hi Shaowline, can you share what you have about the new OEMDrivers+camera ? thanks.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
That's because its an HTC Skinned lockscreen that they have been including, even in a topaz official rom I came across. So I included it aswell. :D

What do you want to know about them? :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mettedam:
Lockscene

Is it possible to get the previous lockscene back with the smaller button and slimmer appointment view ?

Thanks in advance :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
My friend, for you anything is possible. :D

I will make cabs, just like with my start menu, that you can install either the default lockscreen, or the HTC one. :D

Just have to find the time first. :P

Edit:

mmhmm I smell a release soon, i do i do i do!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] pencilcase:
sweeeeeet can't wait my battery is dead on a daily basis thanks to the wifi bug hehe
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
Well with new OEMDrivers and packages I can only hope that it is gone! If not I will resort the begging soemone else to fix it. lol

I am soo tired, went to sleep at 1:30am and it is now 6am. heheI am building the rom as we speak and it will be uploaded very very soon.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
*** TEST ROM RELEASE***

This is a rushed release (I am supposed to be on my way to work right now... lol)

Changes in this build:

New OEMDrivers 2.31

ALL EXT packages from HTC have been updated.

The Camera app has all the extra modes enabled again.

Brand new manila:

Email, twitter, calendar tabs are totally new/updated.

HTC Footprints *Should* work, though I have not tested.

Opera may not be working, I have not tested it yet (you can find a cab and install it though if you need it, and it isnt working.)

Wifi bug better not be present or I will have no hair left on my head from pulling it out. :P

-->Download Now<--

Thanks to Shumilica for the FTP Access.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] pencilcase:
flashing ... will keep you posted as usual :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cyron_at:
wow 231 mb!!!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] VistaX:
Can you post some screenshots?

My phone is broken, so I have this bad and old Sony Ericsson right now :p

Would have been nice with some pictures of ex. twitter, new email and calendar and other new things.

And for you that have tested it, how works Wifi now? Bug is still there? And what about the battery lifetime?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] pencilcase:
issues found so far:

- having several lockups in manila in connection with attaching it to a desktop pc forcing a reboot

(- adding a quick launch on first page shows me selection list but then freezes when trying to open applications or any other menu on that selection page.

^^^ fixed after soft reset)

- lock-screen is out of range. calendar entry is not shown, only icon and text for date/day is cut off.

will update this post once i find more.

goodies:

- wifi bug seems gone !!!!! Whopeee and thanks for solving that one !!!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Zwerg:
found a bug:

- SMS notifications not sounding while in standby mode
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Panamaaa:
only on NONenglish manila. Change manila to english.

my bugs:

1. cant change date in htc option. and when starting settings. in standart windows options is work properly.

2. dailer with scrolling

sorry for my english
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] pencilcase:
hiya..

pictures of the new manila are already floating around in the forums if shadowlind doesnt have the time to make them i will try later on if i have a chance.

wifi bug seems to be gone (had it installed for a few hours and had no popups at all)

this should be better on battery life too.

after installing a new rom you should ALWAYS a) hard reset and b) let it drain completely and then recharge it. this helps a lot too.

additionally on the new roms as applications do not close automatically I would suggest installing "htcaddicts cleanram" and shedule it to clean every few hours.

@shadowline: maybe you can include this in the next update?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] htakahasyd5:
Cannot change "Date"!

Thank you for your great work! Your new ROM looks promising.

So far, the most critical issue should be "Date". Not only HTC Sense, there is no way to change date. The WM clock & Alarms in Settings looks working, however, the change doesn't work at all. It sticks to August 16.:(
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] htakahasyd5:
I found that I can change date using SIP instead of calendar UI. I continue to use this ROM.:)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] hinds:
HTC SMS

Has the performance of trhe HTC SMS improved? If not, has the Zenyee patch been able to restore the WinMo SMS? I have bee using the WinMo on all Manilla ROMS.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] gengt:
:eek: wow! first time i load a rom from shadowline, and its very fast and seems very stable!! (about 1h playing with the test rom 23052). the only "bad" thing is the deleted manila language files... it is possible to add language files on the next rom?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
Here are some of the latest screenshots. :D Enjoy.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] jwee:
Hi guys,

SMS and MMS working in this rom ?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shadowline:
should be, havent tried MMS yet but SMs works. :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] jwee:
thanks shadowline

i tried mms now:p