yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Tornado] puffin_nugs:
settings>phone>call options>show sim contacts
[HTC Tornado] dark_prince:
damm shud have told me before, i got sim_mgr_v6.47 and copied all the contacts from my sim to phone. and now they are duplicates :(

any how, how to navigate through radio buttons and check boxes in IE ? also its killing me that it wont even navigate to a link

any one reports lockups on opera ? (same as i expereienced with v6.0 and 6.1 :( )

Edit: Fast rom BTW, and i have installed the option menu add on :P loox kewl and thumbs up :D

BTW I dislike the Bee-Hive like menu in WM6.5 Pro

Edit2: Nine Way keypad is working pro and is a bit more faster than previous roms

Typing speed and phone response is a bit mroe faster than v6.1 and 6.0

Will tell u when i go to uni 2morrow and check wifi there :)
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
Both this links have slightly different file size, which one to get?

http://wce.by/gregory/WM6.5.Tornado....5_21234_Standart_Tornado_by_Gregory_Full.ZIP

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=4e625465ebb3ebb3312dbd5f2bdc5062e04e75f6e8ebb871
[HTC Tornado] rajathvsm:
Download

Please download the first link you mentioned. If you see the thread fully, then you will know that the link is of the later version and the full version. But I don't know about the second link.:p:)
[HTC Tornado] puffin_nugs:
MIDI ringtones do not play (no sound), they dont show as corrupted unless set as alert. any ideas how to get them to work?
[HTC Tornado] george_sh:
Maybe it's a problem of Skyfire? Well, as far as I understand, even in official ROMs there are fields in IE and other programs that require only numbers or ABC. E.g. e-mail settings (login & password).

Yes, there is a slight problem, but Gregory has already commented on this:

just rename the key HKCU/Software/Microsoft/Today/SoftKeyBar to, say, SoftKeyBar0. And it'll be OK.

Yeah, I also had trouble 'catching' the links with joystick movement.

And I've never had other problems mentioned.
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
Can I confirm that the installation procedure is still the same as what I have written in my guide?

What's with the format BINFS (sector number) issue? to free up more space?

If it is not, I need to update them or people will start ending up with a brick.
[HTC Tornado] rajathvsm:
Guide.

Yup, the number is to maximize storage. It is the hexadecimal equivalent of the size of the ROM. And thanks for your excellent guide:).

Just update, if you already haven't, to include 6.5 ROMs' links.

I suggest this ROM and JouSePo's 21501 ROM, as I have tested both and think that they are relatively bug free.

Anyone upgrading from WM5 to WM 6.5 PRO will flabbergasted!!! :D:p

@SGregory, excellent ROM. Thank you!:)
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
So how do we find out the hexadecimal value of the size of the ROM?

I will only update the guide once I myself has personally upgraded the phone, feels more comfortable doing so.

I have downloaded the ROM and I will flash it tonight (10 hours later)
[HTC Tornado] rajathvsm:
Sure, it's your guide.:)

That's the way to do it. I appreciate it.;)

In TTP,

For Full version: format BINFS 02200000

For Lite version: format BINFS 01E00000

I think the value is calculated like this.

Check the size of the .nbf file in number of bytes and convert it into hexadecimal using any decimal to hexadecimal converter. You can use the Calc program in Windows (Desktop) to convert it. Just go to scientific mode and enter the size and click on hexadecimal. I hope this is the way to do it.:D

Can anyone confirm this?

All your questions have already been answered in earlier posts. Please follow the thread fully for any more questions.:)
[HTC Tornado] puffin_nugs:
yes, you would be correct. i have personally flashed this rom with 02200000 and its complety safe, didnt make a differce from the normal "format binfs" but thats mostly likely that the rom i was using before was around the same size.
[HTC Tornado] dark_prince:
the http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=4e625465ebb3ebb3312dbd5f2bdc5062e04e75f6e8ebb871 gives me HEX 21D0400 so if i do that, how much space i get ? likely less than 1MB? nah i wont do that then. Its better to stay safe following Murophy's Law :P
[HTC Tornado] george_sh:
rajathvsm was right about using scientific calculator. Yet SGregory said that we need to round up this hexadecimal number to 00000 (5 zeros in hex).

It worked fine with me, but I haven't tested how much more space I get by using it.
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
How many more extra storage space do we get by entering the hexadecimal value? Cause my guides serves newbie, and I would like to make it as easy as possible.
[HTC Tornado] rajathvsm:
Not for newbies!

I suggest that the newbies better not try this at first as saving a couple of mb in storage space is not something that is important at first. If they mess up entering the values, I am not sure of the consequences. They can try it once they are comfortable in flashing.:)

I am saying this because I am kinda a newbie too.:);)

And anyhow, the values have to be changed for every ROM and so it has to be calculated and entered every time we flash. That too in terms of bytes.

I think that the amount of space you save from specifying the size actually depends upon the size of the partition in the previous state of the mobile. Please can anyone correct this if I am wrong?

BTW, I think I noticed a difference of a couple of megs. I am sure Thacen would be interested in this.:D:p Well, to say the truth, even I am greedy for more storage space and RAM.:D;)
[HTC Tornado] rajathvsm:
Requests

I changed the dpi to 96 but the notification icons are not visible. But the ROM looks extremely beautiful and user-friendly because of the amount of information you can get at one glance. It is one of the reasons why people like me choose PRO ROMs. So, is there any patch that I can make use of? I searched the forum but I didn't find anything of help.

And I would like to use xt9 instead of the T9 input present, as it is easy to add custom words through xt9 as well as the correction features help when I am typing too fast. Any info on how to do this?

Thanks in advance!:)

PS: @SGregory,

Any chance of entering into the PRO ROM cooking arena?:D:cool:
[HTC Tornado] [G-SpotteR™]:
Comparing 6.5 to 6.1

ok aside from its speedy performance what other major attributes that the 6.5 rom has that the 6.1 doesnt have...in general terms and not just of its speed.
[HTC Tornado] deshwasi:
what a sweet ROM SCGregory. great work mate. i just flashed from a kamikadze 6.1RC. everything looks nice in the 5 mins i have used it (except for the IE start page that just looks sorry). fakecursor is not in here, correct?
[HTC Tornado] george_sh:
It's just new wait icon and new default black theme. Nothing else. The start menu is the same (not transparent like in 6.5 pro).
[HTC Tornado] Romano2K:
Link to the "Lite" edition doesn't work. Can anyone fix this? Thank you!
[HTC Tornado] puffin_nugs:
the "tabs/ menus" is improved also, the contacts list is better, theres a few thing better about this than 6.1 once you play around for a while
[HTC Tornado] george_sh:
Yeah, looks like the link was updated. Here you are: http://wce.by/gregory/WM6.5.Tornado....5_21234_Standart_Tornado_by_Gregory_Lite.ZIP

And one more link (Lite version): http://letitbit.net/download/fd584c4ebf/WM6.5_21234_Standart_Tornado_by_Gregory_Lite.ZIP.html
[HTC Tornado] iceage6:
Fantastic work

The lite version of this ROM is my new top favorite - fantastic work! I upgraded from 6.1 Pro, and like this a lot better. At first I tried the full version, but didn't care for the poor IE performance & navigation issues at all, so I re-flashed, this time going with the lite ROM, and haven't looked back since. :D
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
Perhaps the first post can be updated with the exact hexadecimal value for each ROM ?
[HTC Tornado] moalesipufos:
Link to Lite version work now!
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
Guys I have updated my guide with the instruction for WM6.5 including the format BINFS part where I asked them to refer to ReadMe file, can anyone confirm that it's right?

I'll update the guide to Lite version later

This is a mirror of the ROM I hosted at RS

Full version

http://rapidshare.com/files/245884003/WM6.5_21234_Standart_Tornado_by_Gregory_Full.ZIP

Lite version

http://rapidshare.com/files/247344285/WM6.5_21234_Standart_Tornado_by_Gregory_Lite.ZIP
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
I have just installed the Full version, it was awesomely fast

You guys can watch the video of this rom in action here

http://karhoe.net/windows-mobile-6.5-for-htc-tornado.html
[HTC Tornado] Magnus77:
Dopod Simmanager doesnt work.

I cant resume phone contacts:o
[HTC Tornado] waldziur:
SIM Contacts

I have an issue about not displaying sim contacts. But thanks to mate from preview post i recovered my contacts thanks to simmanager. I hope it can be fixed in next versions. Anyway thanks for your work mates. CHEERS!!!
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
I can view the sim contacts.

Just go to Phone -> Call Options -> Show SIM contacts
[HTC Tornado] waldziur:
oh, thanks man... it was so simple :)
[HTC Tornado] mato-peto:
is any way to set WM6.5Pro menu small, it is to big :(
[HTC Tornado] SGregory:
mato-peto you can try to change. For example, I reduced all the values in two times in HKCU/Software/Microsoft/Today/Menu and edited classicblue_menuSelector. I received the following:
[HTC Tornado] 38399989:
I downloaded it,it dose working!

that's wonderful!
[HTC Tornado] Magnus77:
I didnt find classicblue_menuSelector in HKCU/Software/Microsoft/Today/Menu
[HTC Tornado] SGregory:
classicblue_menuSelector is png file in windows folder.
[HTC Tornado] Phonny:
HTCaddicts Clean RAM (memory cleaner) doesn't work.
[HTC Tornado] marchese:
NRG 1.2 MiniWeather Works

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=403343

Though a bit temperamental, it did eventually work. :D

Cheers
[HTC Tornado] leungda:
Tested with Garmin Mobile XT GPS software. It is working fine.
[HTC Tornado] norman007:
hi, i just want to ask why i can't install java games?... i already flashed WM6.5 and its works fine and quick... i just cant play java games or install any java applications... can anyone tell me why...? tnx...
[HTC Tornado] tonyc0642:
Um, it looks like the WM6.5 Standard start menu to me. Or am I misunderstanding you?

Also, PIE doesn't work. It needs a virtual cursor to work, because PIE8 sucks.
[HTC Tornado] sandervanzijl:
please explain a bit more how you install tom tom with the help of an emulator? because i have the same problem
[HTC Tornado] rajathvsm:
Answers!

You have to install a Java emulator like Esmertec JBed. Search around and you'll find cabs. Try the one with fixes for 3d and audio. It is still the best for me, although you have to open the emulator and search for the Java files for installation of Java apps. You can even assign shortcuts so that you can access the apps directly without firing up the emulator, but it is not worth my time to configure it as I'll be flashing my device regularly.:cool::D

The start menu is the same but the menu you get while you open menus like in PIE, WMP etc., is changed to the PRO version. You will now get larger text and coloured boundaries at the top and bottom.:)

And yup, PIE8 sucks. In fact, all versions of PIE suck. I personally use Skyfire while using PC's connection using BT, or Opera Mini using JBed emulator on GPRS.
[HTC Tornado] critz:
great rom ! favorite so far...

anyone else having problems with mms manager ? sending and receiving is ok but nothing is stored in the Inbox and Sent Items folders in the MMS section.

when MMS received, once viewed .. it vanishes from the Inbox folder. the same when sending , no record in the Sent Items.

any suggestions? thanks.

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[HTC Tornado] supervaags:
i want to say thanks for this version, i use the lite version and it looks realy good and it works quick and nice.

so far i didn't really had any problems and its much quicker.

but one question, is there a link to that browser from the full version so i can give it a try or do i have to install the whole full version.

thanks mate!
[HTC Tornado] dark_prince:
yo! after playing around a bit for 3 weeks, I finally decide to keep thsi WM 6.5.

This rom is fastest/responsive and above all no character skipping in SMS for my typing speed :D

The wm6.5 menu means, the crystal menu highlight and crystal skin of normal "options" menu. Not the start menu and personally i dont want that stinky Bee-Hive like start menu on a smartphone. P.S I hate to use my joystick too so WM6.5 standard is a fine choice with me
[HTC Tornado] Jaimartz:
Contacs SIM card no visible

Hello friend. Hey very good rom but I comentarte that I have a problem with it is that everything in the rom is fine, but contacts the sim card I do not display. I receive calls, sms and other shows but I have no contacts. You insert another sim card with which you install the rom I do not show it, that you feel may be?

Sorry for my bad english

:)
[HTC Tornado] george_sh:
SIM Contacts

This question has already been answered here:
[HTC Tornado] kentchristopher:
WiFi with WPA doesn't work

I just installed the full version downloaded from the wce.by link in the first post, and while I'm able to see available WiFi networks, when I try connecting to my WPA encrypted network, it fails within 5 seconds. I've checking the settings, tried re-entering the passkey and even tried the hidden network option (even though it's not hidden). Same results. Any suggestions?

I decided to try this ROM because the WM6 Platinum I've been using has had problems with the WiFi cutting out and the device "forgetting" the passkey, requiring me to re-enter it. If anyone knows of another ROM I should try that doesn't suffer from this, please let me know.

Thanks!
[HTC Tornado] Jaimartz:
No works the solution

no friend, I was reading the post for the solution but I do not work. That could not be done?
[HTC Tornado] supervaags:
have you tryed to change the wzcsvc.dll?

i had to replaced it with another one beforce i was able to connect to a wpa secured network, but that is exacly the same isue witch i also had with wm 6.1

search for it on this forum and you will find him
[HTC Tornado] kentchristopher:
I did get WiFi with my WPA network working: I stood next to the wireless router and connected successfully. After doing that, it now connects without problem from the room where I actually use it.

Apparently it just needed a taste of success? :)
[HTC Tornado] zhuyadong:
thanks ! looking for a long time!
[HTC Tornado] dark_prince:
pocket IE is pain in neck!

any one found a way?

I dont wanna use skyfire (uses proxy and almost dead slow) or opera (hick ups on every page and large pauses after loading a page)
[HTC Tornado] vaidkun:
is this bug still in this rom?

because i use windows live mail a lot..

ah and is the media player flash light okay? because i tried few 6.1 roms and in some was media player flash light bug. it desnt go down when music is playing.
[HTC Tornado] george_sh:
I use Lite version of this rom. There's the old version of IE in it which is OK. I use Opera Mini (java) as a primary browser and I love it. I only use IE for everyday shortcuts like weather.

But if you need a native WM browser - try UCWEB (www.ucweb.com). There's both java and native versions of it. If you can't find you phone model in their list, just choose anything on the same platform. For example, for my Qtek 8310 I chose Dopod 577W. I think it uses its own server to compress traffic like Opera Mini does.

I don't use it but in some forums they call it 'opera killer'.
[HTC Tornado] touns_j:
yep i confirm..ucweb is better than opera mini eventough with some website it doesn't display them accurately,but it's fast,is has tabbed browsing,fast download and it does compress the data like opera mini:)
[HTC Tornado] kinchung:
Does anyone can advise how to replace the WINCE.nls in the full version ROM.
[HTC Tornado] eluth:
Random Hangs with this ROM?

Has anyone seen problems like random hangs with this ROM?

I flashed the FULL version a few weeks ago on my Tornado (second phone).

Sometimes, I just can't unlock the phone after it did lock itself.

Also, right know, I tried to get into the communication manager with the key on the upper left. The 4 color-dots keep spinning but the Communication Manager does not start.

Going into CeleTask, I see the CommManager.exe process started, but I cannot terminate it.

My Tornado does not run much besides the ROM. I have 23 MB program memory available and 10 MB storage.

Any ideas on what is going on?

Regards,

-eluth.
[HTC Tornado] Fatboyfun:
Help

I was bored and tried to flash both versions of this rom into my old SPV C600 but in both versions the phone is in flight mode and cannot be changed, but bizarrely the green network light is flashing, Just before the cold boot config the home screen does say "Orange" and there is signal but after the reboot the home screen says "Phone off" with no signal reported, and any attempt to access certain settings like "About" will crash the phone.

Any ideas?
[HTC Tornado] Fatboyfun:
Prepay cards not working

Ok this is weird, I have 3 sim cards here, A dead contract card, my main contract card out of my Diamond and a Active prepay card all on Orange UK, Both contract cards work, in the case of the dead card it just says "Searching..." but everything else works, but the prepay card which works in my diamond and my SPV E650 and the wifes Nokia will not work in the C600, the phone just says "phone off" but the network light flashes, there is a GPRS icon in the title bar, and the time updates, any attempt to do anything which accesses the sim card crashes the phone requiring a battery pull :confused::confused::confused:

Any ideas now?
[HTC Tornado] Fatboyfun:
I put 6.1 back on and now it works so something's either up with the rom or my phone has a problem with 6.5 and orange prepay :(
[HTC Tornado] maymaymay:
There is a button called "edit", You could use it in Your posts, it would be nice.
[HTC Tornado] thacen:
How you change to 96 dpi? I search on this forum but link to those cab files are found broken.

After using Pro rom for a long time, return back to Std is not easy:p

Regd xt9, try 'English xt9.cab' which is found in this forum.
[HTC Tornado] 100pies:
sms does not work

i can´t send or receive sms messages
[HTC Tornado] rajathvsm:
96 dpi

Thanks for the reply.:)

I know how difficult it is to come to Std. Even though I know how suited Std is to my phone, the looks and more importantly, the features and the compatibility of the Pro steals the deal from it.:D:cool:

BTW, for 96 dpi, go to the following using any Registry Editor:

HKLM/Drivers/Display/GPE/

Change the values in

LogicalPixelsX

LogicalPixelsY

to 96, soft reset and Voila! You got a VGA device.

It doesn't work very well just like that. The notification icons are just plain white and the Comm. Manager comes in just a single row. There must be fixes for that, or you can try dumping the ROM and including the 96 dpi packages and then flashing it.:D;)

Well, JoSePou's 23001 got me hooked to the PRO version again and so, I don't have the Std version to experiment with it. Wish you all the luck in finding a proper solution. If you find it, please share and who knows, I might be back supporting a newer Std ROM. :rolleyes:;)

EDIT:

You might want to have a look at this. It is quite old though. Not sure if it works. Just a suggestion. :)

Real VGA

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=327830
[HTC Tornado] thacen:
I am a die-hard pro fan.. but in some appli I need to type with vga keyboard that is a pain on the neck. I don't like to say farewell to those cool looks and feels of pro, only thing is if it make more tornado friendly.;)

std roms are made for tornado, so if we make the roms more usable and attractive as pro, that may also acceptable for me.

I have check with 96 dpi but if I set it as 112 dpi it is more appropriate. 12 menu icons are displayed at a time on the screen and all 12 keys of the keypad can be use to select the items. Only thing is that white info icon.

I had installed that ResPack96dpi.ARM without installing the RealVGA then my handset stuck to operator screen when rebooting.
[HTC Tornado] rajathvsm:
Phew! A long post. Sorry for hijacking!!

I have found a trick that works with most applications which don't detect the hardware keyboard initially itself. Assign a hardware key ( I had set Power button ) to AltTab2. Then, when you want to type and only numbers come, just press the assigned key till you come back to app you are working in. Then, try typing. In most apps, this should work. I have no idea why this happens. This worked for me in many apps. YMMV though.;):rolleyes::cool:

Try this. This replaces those icons. They might work.

(I couldn't find the link to the thread):mad:

Arthemus TaskBar QVGA V4.cab

BTW, I have ported 23009 SYS (PRO;):D) to Tornado. XIP is still 21806. Works fine except for a couple of bugs: FakeCursor doesn't work and the camera, power and camera buttons are not recognized. Widgets have to be tested.:cool::eek:

Can anybody provide me with a working XIP.bin?:confused: I am finding it difficult to port it without an original xip.bin of Tornado. Any link to a guide of extracting it out of a ROM will be highly appreciated too.

Apparently, I have hijacked the thread and my apologies for that. :o
[HTC Tornado] thacen:
Same problem, white icons... moreover even in 131 dpi battery icon not shown:(

@rajathvsm: After JoSePou's tornado death, speed of Pro release slow down, I think:rolleyes: May be I am coming back on next release.

I am looking for more usability in this rom, i hope somebody help me.
[HTC Tornado] clapaz:
unstable gprs settings

i'm new to the forum so bear with me please. i just installed this ROM on my old t-mobile sda in hopes of using the software walkinghotspot. i haven't been able to get the software to work but on top of that, the gprs connection is really unstable. i'm with at&t and i'm using the same exact settings as my blackjack II, which i never have connections problems with. i think the this might have something to do with the software walkinghotspot but even after the software kills my connection and i reboot the phone, i still get get gprs connection. if you guys have any suggestions, that would be great.

but other than that, the ROM has definitely been really great so far! thanks again!
[HTC Tornado] maciusk:
Three problems

1. How to break opened gprs connection? (Red button is not working)

2. I can't receive class 0 smses from operator(maybe because SmsClassZero.exe is missed but I can't find this file anywhere)

3. Midi ringtones are not working
[HTC Tornado] yome:
With the Comm manager, switch Data Connection to off (it is not practical, I know)
[HTC Tornado] SGregory:
maciusk, unpack SmsClassZero.zip and put SmsClassZero.exe into windows folder, SmsClassZero.lnk to Windows/StartUp folder.

For fixing gprs issue, try last radio (4.1.13.28_02.61.01)
[HTC Tornado] maciusk:
Thanks for link. It resolved problem with operator smses.

I have this radio version since upgrade to 6.0.
[HTC Tornado] pomfri:
Black start bar

Hello,

new WM6.5 by Gregorys has always black start menu bar. If I choose different color scheme in "Settings -> Home screen" bottom menu bar is always black.

Is it possible to fix that? Maybe with registry editor?

Thank you!
[HTC Tornado] kitroh:
GPRS stop with red button WM.x

Use reg editor, Go to: HKLM-->Comm-->ConnMgr-->Planner-->Settings-->SuspendResume and delete ~GPRS! value.

When you delete it, red button will close the connection.

:)
[HTC Tornado] alexnvidia:
MMS problem

has anyone noticed that sent or received MMS is not saved in the phone? they can only be viewed once and after that, they just disappeared. is there a way to fix this? thanks.

edit: problem solved. sort mms by date received
[HTC Tornado] yome:
Thank you for the tips
[HTC Tornado] gstr318:
Media Player Volume

Hello Everybody. I am having troubles with media player volume all of a sudden. The volume has gotten really low. At 100% it sounds like it used to at about 30%. Is there a fix for this in regedit?
[HTC Tornado] tenorman:
Have you tried adjusting the phone volume. Think of it as a master volume. It could make it quiet as a mouse even if Media Player is is at 100%. Just a thought.