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[Touch CDMA Android Development] aven_soulgazer:
I can't get Android to build a data file. Martins build gives me one error the freezes. Then your build says running check on sd card and freezes.

I think I need my phone replaced, I didn't have these problems with my last phone. Yes it's a vogue, I had to get another one because my charging port went out.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] stoked:
Oh ok, thought voice might be working in Shazam. It seems to be unable to connect to the Shazam servers though.

Locale is pretty cool, but I definitely want a way to switch to vibrate mode manually. Doesn't having the GPS on every 10min drain battery like crazy? It'd definitely be great for my use if the cell tower method worked, but it doesn't seem to here in Vancouver on Bell Mobility.

As always, a huge thanks to the dev team!

Thanks I'll look for it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Pandemic187:
So how do I enable GPS on Google Maps?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
It's not an issue connecting to the shazam servers. Running logcat shows it can't open the audio device.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
On the Tilt/Kaiser, I think you do something completely different. Check in with MBurris.

On the Vogue, you go to settings->security & location and turn on GPS
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Pandemic187:
Perhaps, but I'm actually using files from the vogue-android Google site because they work for Kaiser and because I wanted to use mssmison's HERO theme and no one has made one specifically for Kasier. In any case, I tried enabling by going to security & location, but I don't see the GPS icon.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
I've actually been in contact with the Locale dev team and they state that it is a kind of symphony (my words) happening between GPS, cell towers and wifi hotspots to get location data. Since we only have one option, GPS, it is a little crippled, but still works to some extent depending on how many sat locks you can get at any one particular location.

Which brings me to my question: Is there any line of site to cell tower (AGPS) triangulation? This would get us two out of three and most likely contribute to significant gains in using LBS (location based services).
[Touch CDMA Android Development] stoked:
Well actually in general the Vogue has 2, cell towers and GPS. However, it depends on your location as to whether the cell tower info can be used. If WinMo Google Maps My Location (without GPS) worked in your location, the theoretically locale should work with cell towers. Of course that's provided locale can access this data on the vogue.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] stoked:
Oh, ok, thanks.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
You say it says that it is running a check on the sd card and freezes... does it say anything about dosfsck before it freezes?

Have you tried reformatting your SD card?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] skajaqueda:
After I replaced the non-gps initrd.gz with the new one, my username and password are no longer picked up upon booting. Here is my default.txt:

set RAMSIZE 0x08000000

set MTYPE 1667

set KERNEL zImage

set initrd initrd.gz

#

# The following kernel parameters are useful

# ppp.username - The username used to connect to the network when dialing #777

# ppp.password - The password used to connect to the network when dialing #777

# msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax - The maximum frequency (in Hz) used by the SD controller

# pm.sleep_mode - The mode used when the phone is off

# 0=Power Collapse Suspend, 1=Power Collapse, 2=Apps Sleep,

# 3=Slow Clock and Wait for Interrupt 4=Wait for Interrupt

# Default is 3, use 0 for best power savings

# board-htcvogue.panel_type - Panel type used to power the panel off and on

# 1=Hitachi 2=Topoly 3=Samsung

# clock-7x00.mddi - MDDI clock (try 0xa51 or 0xe2c)

# clock-7x00.ahb_div - Advanced Host Bus divider, default is 4

# 2 is faster but uses more power

# clock-7x00.a11 - ARM11 clock speed in MHz, best to leave this alone

# ril.smsfix - Bell SMS works better with this set to 1

# lcd.density - Defaults to 160, 128 shows more on screen, you'll want to adjust the mddi width and height too

# vogue-ts.XMIN - xmin value for the touchscreen calibration. Also YMIN, XMAX, YMAX, PMIN, PMAX.

#

# Probably the only one of these you will need to change is the panel type, NZ Vogues seem to all have type 1

# US Sprint vogues usually have type 2 or 3 I think.

# Make sure you add these between the quotes on the following line and that your editor hasn't split the line up.

set cmdline "ppp.username=203******@vzw3g.com ppp.password=vzw vogue-ts.XMIN=447 vogue-ts.YMIN=383 vogue-ts.XMAX=3743 vogue-ts.YMAX=3791 vogue-ts.PMAX=374 mddi.width=320 mddi.height=428 msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=32000000 pm.sleep_mode=0 board-htcvogue.panel_type=1 mddi_client_vogue.vsync=0 no_console_suspend"

boot

Is anyone else having this problem with the new initrd.gz? Is there any way I can get modem to work if my username and password are not picked up during the boot up? Everything works if I switch back to a non-gps initrd.gz and system.img. Thanks.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
skajaqueda: Do you have ADB or a terminal working?

If so, could you type

cat /proc/cmdline

into a terminal and post here the output (with your phone number snipped)?

regarding cell tower triangulation: this can only work if we can get the radio to report what towers it is near. So far I haven't had any luck with that, it seems like that may be controlled by the ARM9 chip as well, if so we'd need more RPC calls...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] skajaqueda:
cat: can't open '/proc/cmdline': Permission denied

I rebooted into Android and saw that it says:

grep: /proc/cmdline: permission denied

grep: /proc/cmdline: permission denied

username=

password=
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
okay...

su
vogue
cat /proc/cmdline
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
Ooh! That helps!

I'll take a look and see what I can come up with... (but could you please also try what I sent in my last)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] skajaqueda:
I tried running su from the terminal editor inside android and got this repsonse:

su: uid 10032 not allowed to su

One note here, I am not very good with computers/linux/programing/etc...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mfpreach:
Hey vilord,

I installed the new zimage and initrd and when I send texts, some of them are all garbaled and full of glyphs, some don't even get to their recipient.

I am on Bell, I guess the problem isn't fixed yet.

The only thing I can think of is, I haven't replaced my system.img recently, however I was under the assumption we didn't need to. Let me know if thats the problem, if not, the text messaging issue still persists.

Thanks
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
skajaqueda: okay instead of su, type /bin/su (i'll fix this too)

mfpreach: I just spoke with two other who say texts are fixed on their phones, as long as the destination numbers don't have a +1 in them, i don't know the symptoms when there is a +1... And I was hoping it was fixed :(
[Touch CDMA Android Development] aven_soulgazer:
I wish the screen didn't display the text so small and blurry so I could read this correctly.

mkdir: cannot create directory '/sdcard/cache': Read-only file system

Mount: mounting /sdcard/cache on /cache failed: No such filre or directory

Running an fsck on the SD card

Then it just stops. No flashing prompt. Nothing happens if I push buttons and the light doesn't register if I plug it in or unplug it. It's been 9 minutes so far this time. I also can't get DZO's to work either. I had been able to use the old Dood's version to run with the DZO's 1.1 data image setup

Edit:

Still no progress. I forgot what program I had used previously to format my sdcard through my phone because I have no adapter. Any freeware solutions for this?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] margosmark:
I am on bell texts work as long as +1 is not in the front of the number. When I used this new version i just started from scratch as i had nothing to loose I would suggest trying that.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] prairiefire:
Hi mfpreach,

have you added ril.smsfix=1 to the cmdline after your ppp. info? I am on bell also and this has fixed any problems i experienced
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
Are you sure you're using the latest from google code?

The version posted up there does not attempt to create /sdcard/cache until *after* the fsck on the SD card.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
ril.smsfix=1 doesn't actually do anything on the latest (posted at midnight pacific time), the fix was wrapped into the standard ril.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mfpreach:
Oh, the number I was texting did have a 1 in front, I will remove it. Thanks.

THe other thing I was wondering about was when the phone rings, the tone only chimes once, it doesn't ring ring ring, just one ring. Is that the same for everyone else?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
nope, it rings and rings...

You might want to try renaming your data.img and see if everything works in a new data file.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mfpreach:
Hmmmm, thats annoying. I did re-create a data.img last night, and this problem existed on my previous data.img, i wonder if i need to change my system.img.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
Did you try changing your ringtone in settings?

If you don't see any ringtones, then download the soundresources.zip and extract it to your SD card
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mfpreach:
Yeah for sure i've messed around with ring tone settings (i'm not that noob :P)

All the tones are there too.

Yeah I dunno, if i'm the only one with the problem it must be my phone or files.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
I have this issue too, but haven't messed around with it a whole lot yet, so I wasn't gonig to post until I had done some digging of my own, but now that I see someone else is also experiencing it, I guess I should say something.

Also, I should note that while the audio ringtone only plays once, it does continue to vibrate until the call stops incoming.

EDIT: I should also note that it's not every ringtone that behaves this way. For example "Bell Phone" will repeatedly ring. "Digital Phone" will not.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
ok using build from 2am this morning (new initrd and kernel). GPS locks, and stays on in G-Maps first giving me an accurate position, however while I am standing still outside, it takes of jumping around down the street half a mile away in huge jumps; don't think this is an accuracy problem, as it is far outside any accuracy i've ever gotten using any other GPS. It is like it is plotting incorrect values. We're getting there, great work guys.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mfpreach:
I will put it on bell phone then, I tried a bunch of the ring tones and they were all like that. Yes I can confirm that it vibes throughout.

Maybe all these dudes on this board don't actually talk on their phone but just nerd it out :P
[Touch CDMA Android Development] skajaqueda:
If I type /bin/su into the terminal emulator on the phone, it responds with:

su: must be suid to work properly

UPDATE: I did the above before I noticed that you posted a new initrd. My username and password are now recognized on boot. Thanks a lot.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
How is the diamond coming along? I check the wiki every now and again but it doesnt seem like much progress has been made.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
I'm still having nasty "going home" performance issues when using srwalter's files plus vilord's initrd.

Does anyone else see this or am I just going mad?!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] frad:
I enjoy playing with these builds... I'd love to use them full time if I could, but think I am going to give up for a while. The act of simply booting into android seems to perpetually fail/freeze up at random places for no apparent reason. As far as I know my SD card works fine... no issues in Windows.. no issues in my day to day use. I am assuming that when the little blinking cursor stops blinking that things are frozen right? not just stalled?

It appears like I am not the only one with these issues... would not mind helping to debug them... but something is definitely wrong.

Thanks to all in any case... I may just get an android phone! :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
Issue tracker on google code site

Hey, imagine that... Digital Phone only rings once then gives up.

I'm going to stick to Organ Dub, but the next time I rebuild the system, I'll try to look into it.

mfpreach, do you mind entering an issue on the google code site?

avon_soulgazer, could you enter an issue for your bootup problem?

Thanks all,

-Jesse
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mfpreach:
Issue entered.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] stoked:
Looks like it's definitely more than just Digital Phone, I went through a bunch of them to test, and quite a few of them cut short yet the vibrate continues. Confirmed that Organ Dub and Bell work ok though.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] srwalter:
Sorry, but as of now my GPS code only works on the Vogue, not on the Kaiser. The interface used by the Kaiser is slightly different. I understand that someone else is working on GPS support for the Kaiser, however.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] srwalter:
Are you running on the Vogue or the Kaiser?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mfpreach:
Not to be a ****, but last time I checked this was the vogue section of xda, maybe you should create a thread in the Kaiser section as posting bugs with other handsets will confuse the thread.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] frad:
Hi srwalter,

I'm running a Bell Mobility Vogue. Thanks for your help.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
Nah, its okay to be a ****, we all do it time to time, just make sure you address the right person. srwalter wasn't entering a bug, he was responding to a user's request
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zkush:
my GPS on the vogue isnt connecting. what do i do?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mfpreach:
Yeah my bad, i just read that over!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] njakobs:
Stand on one foot and sing your national anthem.... It might help.....

Do you have the latest radio in your phone?

Do you have all the latest files?

Are you outside? Depending on where you are in the world it can be a lot harder to get a lock. In NZ for example I have to be outside and away from tall buildings and even then it is a bit hit and miss.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mfpreach:
Does anyone have the definitive touch screen settings so the left edge of the screen is also touch sensitive? It would be useful for it to work when marking multiple emails (batch selections).
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zkush:
got it workin!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Pandemic187:
Not to be a ****, but Android for Kaiser development is kind of at a halt right now. And if I had known that the GPS interface for Vogue doesn't work on Kaiser, I wouldn't have asked about it here. Oh, and there is a thread for Android for Kaiser. But, with no one working on it right now, that wouldn't get me very far, now would it?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
The touch screen settings vary widely from one phone to the next. You'll need to calibrate yourself to find out the right numbers.

What you can do is to push the camera button once, then press sym then 0, it will display a bunch of text

then hold down the end call button and while you are holding it, use the stylus to touch the top left and bottom right corners of the screen.

now push the camera button again, and read off the bottom row of numbers, those are your 4 settings.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mburris:
I've been trying to port HTC Music from hero to our ION build for like the last 4 hours... fail. Im going to bed.

info about other people getting it to work on IONr2 on Dream can be found in this thread

Are we using an ION or IONr2 derived image?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
It is about 99% haykuro's IONr2. I just spent the last 2 hours trying to get the hero build itself to run instead of Ion... fail... If we had a wifi simulator, it might be closer... but hard to tell. I'm going to bed too.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] sricke66:
PC6800 (Titan / Mogul)???

Will one of these builds work on a PPC6800 (Titan / Mogul)? TIA!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
That thread is for getting it to work on JF based builds. Those are different from ION, It's alot harder to port stuff to ion as the code is different. I'll post a system.img of the new dudes1.3 build with htc music later today... And it's not wifi that's stopping hero from working on our builds, It's permissions. I'm working on it.

**Edit** Okay I'm uploading thedudes 1.3 build with htc music included to the google code page right now. Give it about 10 minutes or so and it should be there. It's a hero skinned build already so the music player fits nicely. There are still bugs but it seem to works. All of our previous updates are included in the build.. **
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jaredakelly:
finally!!! boots up fine and lcd density is working!!! thanks guys!!!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mfpreach:
I don't want to make a whole thing about this, but when I hit sym-0 and it put me in linux, and I hold the end call button and touch the top left corner and the bottom right corner and let go, it doesn't display any numbers, I just get a continually Battery reading, hitting the camera button again just brings up the linux keyboard.

Also, how do I get my android gui back from the linux prompt ?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] prairiefire:
try having the linux keyboard up when you're calibrating. (at least that is what i have been doing.) I get the battery level readings drowning out my calibration when the battery is low so i'd suggest having a charged battery or an ac adapter in while doing the calibration. hope this helps.

also, since i noticed that people were commenting about the number of rings, it appears that whatever ring i have, it only rings once. if i set to vibrate and ring, it only rings once but vibrates many times until it goes to the answering machine.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jaredakelly:
with the auto backup where does it backup to?

edit: nevermind
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mburris:
I was refering to someone who said they had success on the ION in that thread. This is his post. It was short, sweet, with no explanation. (insert joke about lsat sentence here)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mfpreach:
Thanks for the suggestion,

Yeah we know it continues to vibe, thanks.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
mfpreach, sorry bout that, i guess you want to push sym-0 *after* you calibrate...

sym-7 brings back the GUI

so bring up the blue keyboard, hold down end call until the shutdown prompt appears, then while still holding it down, tap top left and bottom right, then let go of the end call button, and hit sym-0.

Write down the numbers, then sym-7 to get back
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
minor update to initrd, it now will list your carrier info instead of the generic "Android" on CDMA phones
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
I love it! I'll leave it running for the next few days, maybe it'll become my standard :D

Also, so far the lag going back to the home screen is gone for me. There is a little more lag opening applications than with Ion, but not very much, and that is to be expected, as thedude's build is based on opensource (right?)

EDIT: I noticed that although music player works, if you push the buttons on the left or right, the program quits/restarts. Not sure what those buttons are for...

EDIT 2: Added some screenshots! http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android/wiki/Screenshots
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zkush:
any word on how to get the camera working?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
It is being worked on, check back towards the end of next week.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Pandemic187:
Jeez, this development you guys are doing is almost making me wish I had a Vogue. :(
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mfpreach:
Buy one, you can probably get it cheap as people think this phone is old and ****ty now.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] littlebrowntony:
hey folks -- the newest build seems to load up just fine for me, but then freezes after a few seconds and automatically restarts -- it does this repeatedly and then eventually just locks up. Anybody else have a similar problem? Is it something wrong with my phone (sprint, wm 6.1 v. 3.03.651.4)?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
what "build" are you using? are you using it with an old data.img (did you just switch from 1.1 or an older 1.5?) Try downloading everything fresh, using no data.img/data.gz, and give a fresh start.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Pandemic187:
Nooo thanks. I still prefer having my real, hardware keyboard. :D And although I prefer Android to WM, I can still get GPS on WM if I really need it...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] grktaurus83:
You can get GPS in Android now too~
[Touch CDMA Android Development] littlebrowntony:
thanks for your response -- i'm using the most recent build posted on the download site -- i've reformatted my SD card and redownloaded the files (without data.gz) a few times with the same result each time -- not sure what to try next...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
Actually didn't catch this the first time. you are running the sprint 3.42.30 radio, you could try the bell 3.42.50 radio, don't know if this is your problem though. Download the bell radio 3.42.50 (flash the bell 3.09.666.1 ROM found here, this will upgrade your radio), then you can re-flash whatever custom rom you are currently running. It is ok running this with sprint, this is what I run.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
anyone able to get google maps and directions working properly? prior to gps, I was able to get directions, see the steps, etc. now I can look up directions with or without gps, but it won't show me the list or the track on the map and force closes if I press any of the direction buttons that show up (although the route does show on re-opening of g-maps). wondering if it is just me, maybe I need to dump my data.img. . . gps is running great for me now though . . . Google track-me works just fine.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] SolemnWishing:
Im getting a force close on anything that has to do with media. Gallery, music, camera, camcorder, etc. Note: I'm on T-Mobile with a G1, and this phone isn't activated. However I doubt that would be the cause.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] lip:
Hi,

I have the same problem with with the latest.

LIP
[Touch CDMA Android Development] lip:
Exchange support ever?

Hi,

The main hurdle for me switching completely is cxchange email, agenda and contacts support. Bluetooth is a pain not to have but I could live without it.

I know HTC has exchange support in their "non google" google phone...any chance of this working in the future?

With winmo I have to add security certificates in a directory on the phone from my IT group so I hope this would work also for exchange.

LIP
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mfpreach:
As I understand, this is a caveat with the Google Android OS, not with what these developers are doing to make it compatible with the vogue. I also used to use exchange but have switched to gmail syncing as it is free and does the same thing, however this probably isn't sufficient for you as I am assuming you use it for work.

For exchange users, you should stick with winmo.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jaredakelly:
i can get gps and search but if i try to use directions it will force close on me for some reason. i've been having problems with google maps with the couple updates
[Touch CDMA Android Development] stoked:
I don't think the HTC Exchange client is a priority for the vogue developers and rightly so. I'd love to be able to try the exchange client as well. However, in the meantime, you can try http://www.nitrodesk.com/dk_touchdownFeatures.aspx , not sure if it works on the Vogue, I haven't tried yet.