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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] andrew-in-woking:
What does this .cab file do?

Hi monx

Can you please explain what this .CAB file does whrn installed

Thanks

andrew-in-woking
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] monx®:
Hi andrew,

it has some registry entries for tcmd preferences with some hotlist & little cosmetic changes.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jenkinson6a:
it is gps lag if , im driving down a road then i turn off and the tomtom software still thinks im going down the origional road then jumps onto the new one after going like 20m.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] seelion:
same here ;(

igo works, Navigon 7 works without any probs ONLY TT

;/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] beast0898:
Either your buffer settings are too high a value, and / or you have logging enabled. This can also be caused if you have other apps running in the background or a very slow sd card.

Cheers

Beasty (no lagging with TT7 & reg mods):D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] AlCapone:
beast0898 :

what is the drawback of reducing/disabling logging ?

- how it is being used ?

- BTW - it's nice to see meet you in Rhodium forum, I too replaced my HTC Universal with Rhodium
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jenkinson6a:
ok, thats after applying the reg mods, nothing else running like 63% memory in use. with tomtom installed to the device memory and maps on a sandisk 8gb (catagory 4) memory card that was recently formatted. used same one perfectly with my htc trinity
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] beast0898:
Logging caused major lag on the Raphael, not sure if it is a delay in the file being read by the sat nav app, but the idea is that the logfile assists in a quicker lock. Never noticed the difference in lock times myself.

Good to see another Uni convert over here..... welcome!

My advice is set low buffer settings (but not lower than 512) disable logging, Soft Reset after the reg entries are changed, run quickgps to update data. Run Satnav app, usually takes around 10 - 15 secs for me to get a lock in cloudy England and lag is unnoticeable now on the Rhodium.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] beast0898:
Does your device have a clear view, what is the signal quality like whilst in the car? Perhaps you have a heated front windscreen (a lot of Fords have these) and they can interfere with reception.

Have you done a Soft reset after changing the registry settings?

Have you run QuickGPS after changing settings?

What version of tomtom and Maps are you using?

What radio stack version do you have?

Where in the world are you?

What's your credit card number? ..........nah just kidding:rolleyes:

To bottom it out we need more info mate,

Cheers,

Beasty
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] AlCapone:
no, you should not notice any difference, because the files do not contain and frequency data, - and cannot help.

GPS modules are usually equipped with a little battery-backed memory, that remembers last active frequencies, - or - they can be fed that using AGPS.

Writing a logfile full of $GPGLL strings (location) and $GPGSA (Position/horizontal and vertical Dilution) would be a complete waste of time and space - and can NOT help gaining faster lock.

So this is just another myth crated by somebody...

IF, the log files contained only $GPMSS one time per minute, that could be at least plausible.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jenkinson6a:
i have a cleare view, with full number of bars and no heated windscreen (same car i use htc trinity in perfectly)

Have Soft Reset

Have run QuickGPS

Tomtom v7.915(9196) Map Uk Irland v815.2024

Radio 3.44.25.27

In the UK
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] beast0898:
Bizarre mate,

I have the same version of TT and Radio and have no issues at all.

Have you tried any other apps to see if it is only TT related or not?

GoogleMaps?

Sorry can't offer more help than that at the minute.

AGPS and logging disabled?

Cheers,

Beasty
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] erus1982:
Hi all, I just can't get a GPS lock in google maps. I think GPS is not receiving any data. I live in Cyprus, my external-gps setting are com4 for programs, none and 4800 band for hardware. Am I doing something wrong here?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] beast0898:
Try using HTC-GPS Tool, see what data (If any ) is being received from GPS.

I usualy have a lock within 10-15 secs.

Will be in Cyprus at end of August (maybe you have a "Bermuda Triangle" there:rolleyes:

Cheers,

Beasty
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] erus1982:
Hey, I used HTC Gps tool, well I dont know much for it but I says com port 4, band 4800, When i press OPEN it says "failed to open port". I tested this while its running google maps or not, i get the same message. Am I doing something wrong here? Can't get GPS to work

EDIT: OK, I dont know how but I got the GPS running on google maps now, it shows correctly my position! Im gonna try TomTom tommorow and inform you guys how's going, thx!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mirage22:
Hey Monx.....

i have installed the latest v5 of Garmin and purchased the garmin middle east maps....

people who either have garmin devices or use blackberrys get a lock asap here...

i have been sitting outside in the sweltering heat for minutes.. and no lock... :! !!!

how did u configure the garmin xt to function with tp2's internal gps?.... thx!!!! .... :)

edit: I Have used quickgps and its updated, have soft-rest the phone after the installation was complete, the settings are configured to use the gps intermediate driver in garmin & am not surrounded by the mountainous skyscrapers of Dubai... ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] AlCapone:
First time in a while may time some time, that's common for all GPS devices. - and, it depends on luck as well.

update QuickGPS and try again.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mirage22:
nope... been sitting outside for like 15 minutes plus... !

have tried both, y'day evening near my office and while nearing my home... repeated it in the morning too...

btw, even google maps is sitting on seeking gps satellites (0).... :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] powersquad:
Why do you disable A-GPS? It helps lock into satellites quicker using 3G service.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] beast0898:
Because it has to be supported by your mobile operator and so far only a few support this functionality.

It does not triangulate your position itself, it relies on data provided from the operator.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rob_p:
Just got back from the US where I ran TTN 7.915 with the NA map. Have to say it did pretty well. There is some lag, more than with IGO8, and it seems that if the phone has a good view of the sky (sitting on a vent-mount or similar) it tends to keep track of position well, but if say you hold it in your lap or similar then it can loose track fairly often (something that the TyTNII never had an issue with).

So I get the impression that the gps fx can be a bit temperamental, and hopefully HTC will have a fix out for this sooner or later.

Just debating whether to get CPL 7 HD as it supports the TP2, and I hear it has less lag than TT7??

Anyone got experience of both on the TP2?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Alcibiade:
Been trying my GPS in France and in Japan (With Google maps)

It sem sit is unable to work if I use for the GPS setting the managemet by windows (Finds 0 satellite...)

If I set to Com 4 and 4800 it finds satellites BUT my location is off by 100 meter (basically it is obvious it's using the approximative location from my provider but not the GPS location)

Actually if I enable aGPS I get the location point. I I disable, I keep on getting "Seeking GPS satellites" (However I have a string into brackes, not a 0 like when it I let the manegement by Windows)

Anybody has na idea of a solution ? (I am using the tweaks advised at the begining of this threda but with no improvement...)

I am quite worried my GPS is just broken...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Alcibiade:
Ok Ok... after letting it seek longly I have Google's mssage "Weak GPS signal"

I tried it indoor, outdoor, in Japan, in France... Doesnt look good...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rob_p:
I'm still not convinced that there's not an issue with the GPS hardware in some phones. Given some people say it's blindingly fast and accurate, and others the total opposite!

Mines somewhere in the middle - not too slow and relatively accurate, but there's still some lag, and it will ocasionally lose itself for 10 secs or so! I'm gonna hold fire for a bit, see if there's confirmation that some gps chipsets are not right, and then look at returning it to HTC to get it fixed if this can be done :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] peter7:
How about Navigon and Tmc - is it working on the Pro2 ???
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] martinjclarke:
I'm having a similar problem to others. Have used all tweaks listed, soft reset, run Quick GPS again - and TT7 still has quite a lag issue. TT ran MUCH more smoothly on my TyTN II. Could it be to do with the size of map file? Mine is over 2GB - is this the problem? Google Maps seems to work ok. Quite disappointing.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Alcibiade:
Cant even say I have lag... I have no working GPS :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Alcibiade:
Just started to work... Dont ask me why... I have no idea...

Quite precise even while walking after applying the tweaks. Quite happy, I hope it will keep on going like this
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rob_p:
Ok, well despite all the tweaks, and trying several different nav programs (TT7, CPL7, IGO8 & Navigon7), I'm still getting at least 2 seconds lag :(

Here are the details (same as prettymuch all others!):

Rom Version : 1.19.401.0 (51489) WWE

Radio Stack : 3.44.25.27

Protocol Version : 61.25t.25.19U

Nav System : TT 7.910.9185, TT 7.915.9196, CPL7, IGO 8.4, Navigon Mobile Navigator 7.4 (build 787)

Tweaks applied:

In Advanced Config:

disable A-GPS

disable GPS logging

logfile name must be empty

old logfile name must be empty

maximum size of logfile must be 0

deleted the files :

\windows\GPSLogFile.txt and \windows\GPSLogFileBack.txt

In Registry:

Under: HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\

Drivers\GpsOneDevice\PollInterval -> 100

Drivers\InputBufferSize -> 512

Drivers\OutputBufferSize -> 512

Drivers\SleepOnNoData -> 100

Multiplexer\MaxBufferSize -> 512 (created this one)

Anyone any ideas, or do I need to send the phone back to HTC?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] EugeniusD80:
Thanks to the original posters of the GPS tweaks!

I have Garmin Mobile XT installed on my TP2 and before applying tweaks it was searching for satellites for several minutes, even when I was out in the park with clear sky above my head.

Now, after the tweaks and soft reset my Garmin locks to satellites as soon as it starts, even indoors (just bring the device close to the window)!

Didn't check the accuracy and lags yet...

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Device:

HTC TOUCH TOUCH PRO 2

ROM: 1.19.413.1 (51489) SVE

RADIO: 3.44.25.27

PROTOCOL: 61.25t.25.19U
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rob_p:
Any news on the lag etc... after tweaks?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] raynerda:
Lag on TP2 running TT6 and 7

Have made all the tweaks and changes mentioned here and I still have a lag of 1-3 seconds depends on speed etc.

Bought a Class 6 Micro SD card but this didn't improve the lag, didn't think it would but needed a larger card anyway.

Haven't tried my old Navigator II bluetooth GPS yet to compare but will when I get some time.

Will report back after.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Isard:
I've had some TomTom troubles, but with the latest version I get 10 satelites indoors... :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] raynerda:
What version of TomTom are you now running?

Tks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rob_p:
Yeah, I have the same amount of lag, no matter what tweaks, and I'm running class 6 8gb sd card. It does seem to me that some TP2s have issues with the gps hardware. I will wait for the first ROM update from HTC, and if that doesn't fix it, it's going back for fix/replacement.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cjm1979:
There is an hotfix for the gps on htc uk support site for seeking satelites. As anyone tried this? Also just looked this morning and there is a new Rom upgrade (EU). I cant yet because mines Uk Vodafone branded and it wont let me.

http://www.htc.com/uk/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=250&act=sd&cat=all
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] vdKarel:
Read all the threads on the hotfix and ROM update. The hotfix doesn't work (almost everyone gets an invalid vendor ID error) and the ROM update doesn't do an awful lot.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rob_p:
Yeah, I'm hoping they'll get another version of the hotfix for GPS out quick smart (and that it will solve my problems!).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] el_marto:
I'm intrigued; where do you see somethin' with GPS in there???

Did ya guys try the cab that can be found in the middle of this thread? It has been posted by Nadavi... works pretty well for me...

I personally use TT7 on the main memory plus a class 6 SDHC, no probs but the point that sometimes it takes a while to get a fix, sometimes it gets it in 5 seconds, maybe some feedback on that?

Cheers!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RogerStenning:
What post by Nadavi? linkage, please - I cannot see it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dlthorpe:
Think im in the same boat here. Ive made all the tweak changes but still get 2-4 seconds lag per refresh whilst driving. Most amount of sats i seem to get is 5-7. Not sure if i can do anything else to make it work?! :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rob_p:
I'm waiting for a courier to pick my phone up today to have it repaired. I've been through all of the tweaks etc... and I still get a minumum of 3 seconds lag on all GPS software. So it's going back for HTC to have a look at the GPS hardware and hopefully fix the problem. It will carry on going back to them until it is fixed as well!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] martinjclarke:
rob_p please let us know how it is when it comes back. Worried that this is just a mass hardware issue?!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rob_p:
Will do. Got an email yesterday to confirm they'd received it at the repair centre. It must be something to do with the hardware since some people don't have any lag at all!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] beast0898:
I'm not convinced that the majority are hardware issues, granted some will be down to hardware defects but there are so many other factors that could be affecting it.

What other apps have people installed

What apps are running at the time, the GPS takes a lot of CPU resource when running

What apps are being used to test the GPS and with what config

If the app is running from the SD Card, what make and speed is the SD

What is current signal strength and band, is hunting/band switching

What radio stack and provider and where in the world is the user

There are so many factors that can affect performance

On mine if I do a SR lock is alwas quicker than if GPS has been used before without a SR.

I think to bottom this one out people will have to answer all the above questions when they post with issues, hopefuly then we will see a pattern start emerging from all the results and be able to put a permanent fix together.

Cheers,

Beasty
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Mister_T:
This works perfect. Even indoors i have reception, which i never had before.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rob_p:
Well, for me, the problem must be hardware related. It has lag whether I've just done a SR, whether I'm running goggle maps, TT7, CPL7, iGO8, MN7 etc... And this is on a class 6 8GB sd card. For me, the key test was google maps as that runs on teh device, not needing the storage card at all, and that had the same lag (I made sure that it had downloaded enough of the maps that it wouldn't be updating from the internet during the test).

The status at HTC is that it's being repaired, so will have to wait and see... I can't remember if that means that they've investigated and found fault, or if that's just the status once it's arrived at the repair center...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rob_p:
I'm not holding out too much hope fo the repair since I just spoke to customer service, and they said the only thing carried out at repair was that they flashed the rom on the phone.

I mean seriously, FFS, I explained that I'd flashed the new rom, tried hard reset etc... How on earth do they think flashing the ROM again will make any difference what so ever. I have a feeling that they will be receiving an angry phone call from me tomorrow as soon as the device is returned! What a joke!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] martinjclarke:
A possible argument against it being a hardware issue is...I'm on my second phone now (first one replaced on insurance after scratched screen) and exactly the same issue with this new handset.

Whatever happened to the GPS hotfix on the HTC support site? It seemed that most (all?) couldn't install it, and they took it off. Hopefully they're aware of the prob and will hotfix us up real nice.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] schizo:
Hai pakcik, habis putar2 ketemu lagi disini. Apakabar?

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Hi monx, see you again here. Howdy?

I didn't notice this gps issue very much. Ok i realized the lock time for cold or hot ones are little behind my sex1 but not significant. And about the lagging, i too realized this but also not up to the point of bugging me very much. Dunno, maybe am just lucky :D

Just wondering, which Garmin XT version you were using, mate?

EDIT: oh, while we're at it, i dunno why but in kaiser whenever i start Garmin i can see the signal locking process bar moving for each satellite if i click gps info. but since using sex1 and now tp2, this 'behavior' is missing, meaning, no signal movement a.k.a blank. Yet in some seconds afterward i still got informed 'ready to navigate', that's why i never raise this issue. Do you experience this also?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rob_p:
The only thing is, how else can it be explained that some people have horrendous lag, and others nothing? I think the hotfix was only to get a quicker fix rather than to get less lag, although hopefully I'm wrong! I'm hoping that they've also updated the radio when they reflashed the rom so I do at least have the newer radio which could possibly make a difference (clutching... straws... help....!)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Ramsfan_Jim:
Mine seems to make a significant difference depending on other applications running (even after applying tweaks). I usually have a bluetooth link to an FM transmitter to play in the car, and music playing at the same time - and it seems slow, particularly to get an initial fix.

With nothing else running it was almost instant.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rob_p:
Well I've tried the phone out, and there's no real difference, still a good 2 to 3 second lag on the GPS signal :( Getting a fix is no problem - with quick GPS, it gets a fix within a matter of seconds, but the lag is permanent.

Really frustrating :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] oltp:
unfortunately the new radio doesn't seem to solve the 2 to 3 sec. lag. The time to get a fix feels slightly better. I got a-gps disabled. But it's hard to say wether it makes a big difference.

Hopefully htc or someone here can sort it out. Even my Hermes with a BT gps has got less lag.

M
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ed_bracam:
Please help me

I have my TP2 since last week. It's french Orange version. There is the FM radio but not the quick GPS.

The TP2 cannot fix the GPS signal

I tried first to add QuickGPS cab and some tweaks but the result was nothing.

I decide to hard reset the phone and don't modify the factory parameters.

The phone have easily satellite bars (sometimes 8 or 9) but all grey with the message no fix. Sometimes, I have a fix after 15 mins and more and the fix is only on 3 or 4 sat at the same time and unfix easily.

To test, I used TomTom 7 and BeelineGPS programs (TomTom is 7.915 version)

The signal is max at 50 or 60% of the bar level.

I tested also on the Kaiser and the it fixes very fast with the same satellite number.

Someone else has the same problem?

It's software Radio problem of hardware?

I ask you because I hesitate between HardSPL and new Rom or contact the customer service without soft modif for the waranty.

Thanks. Seb...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] blader:
My GPS doesn't seem to lag and gets a good fix quickly since doing the registry tweaks BUT it's consistently 20+feet off point, i tried using it for geocaching but it never got me close enough to where i should be. Anyone have an idea on how to correct the off point error??

Voda branded tp2 with nothing else running apart from Geoscout.

cheers
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pounderd:
How do you know it's you who's 20 ft out and not whoever posted the coords you're trying to get to? You can't always get that accurate a fix.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] blader:
it's been the same for the last few caches i've gone for. also, google maps shows me over the front of the house BEHIND mine when i'm in my garden...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] khaytsus:
How to correct the poor GPS, assuming the GPS behaves similarly tp the Kaiser; bluetooth GPS. MUCH less battery drain too.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] blader:
Kinda defeats the point of having built in GPS though!?:p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] blader:
Anyone got any ideas on EGNOS or SBAS usage on the TP2?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] khaytsus:
It's useful for some things.. I use the built-in GPS for RemoteTracker, Google Maps, GPSToday, etc... Things I want to have available any time (although on the Tilt, it may or may not actually work in a reasonable time..)

For geotracking, car nav (see below), geocaching, etc.. Bluetooth GPS.

I've found during car navigation in a warm car the phone will actually discharge because it get so hot with the internal GPS, never happens with the external.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] imugli:
Just as well I've kept the BT GPS receiver then. Quite seriously, why can't HTC or Qualcomm or whoever make these things listen to the feedback and fix the problem? This is their top of the line phone FFS...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] khaytsus:
I doubt the GPS supports WAAS/SBAS, etc... It'd be nice if they'd put a nice Sirf or MTK chipset in.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rookie333:
re

Amazing, after 20 sec.i can drive in my living room....:):):)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ed_bracam:
The Bluetooth Gsat receiver is MUCH MUCH better than HTC's. But on the kaiser it's OK and more practical.

Now my GPS is blocked because I tried to replace some dll by HTC rom files... the COM4 is not present and I'm ready for hard reset I think.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] terrypin:
I'm studying this thread to try improving my GPS initial fix (mainly using Memory-Map, but also expect to use Google Maps too.)

In addition to the instructions above for the logfiles (which I've followed but not yet tested), could you please advise if I also need to change the registry entries under \GPS Intermediate Driver:

CurrentLogFile = \windows\GPSLogFile.txt

IsEnabled =1

OldLogFile = \windows\GPSLogFileBack.txt

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Terry, East Grinstead, UK
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] terrypin:
No one able to answer this please?

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Terry, East Grinstead, UK