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[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
hmm, first off run adb logcat to catch what's throwing the error, than you're going to have to mount the data.img file in linux and remove the setting/file causing the issue.

This is an ongoing issue, when changing system.img files there are lots of differences other than costmetics and apk's. Especially going from an ion based build to a cupcake base, and especially to the htc/rogers base that's being worked on accoring to vilord.

It's no different with the dream guys, when they switch to someone else's rom 9/10 times they have to start with fresh data.

It's a great idea, though I think with the way android works it's less of a program that would have to be changed and more of the android core itself. Honestly all I could suggest is to pick up a good android programming book (which there are several) and start reading. I was thinking about trying to modify the core to add full time haptic feedback, which probably wouldn't be too hard but the issue with that is that it would only work on opensource builds, cupcake based. not ion or rogers as they are closed source.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] benouch:
Hi crono999,

I experienced the same problem.

I deleted the media folder of the SD Card by mistake.

I copied it back to my SD Card and now I have the notification and ring sounds.

You can find that folder in the resources.zip file.

Benouch.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] crono999:
Thanks for replying so quickly with you suggestions, I've tried everything I can here at work (removing media, launching, re-adding, multiple system.img's) with no luck. I don't have access to a linux box here, so I'll just go with a clean data file. That will probably help in the long run anyways with how much random crap I'd done with the old one. Thanks again.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] KERKEDAGAIN:
I'm probly behind the curve, though i don't remember seeing this mentioned..if you hold the menu button (slider down) down it pops up the keyboard! When on the home screen and you begin typing, it starts searching thru your contacts...if you're in music you can begin searching through your content...when in the browser you can begin typing in your url without having to go to "menu->go". As I said..many of you may already know this but just mentioning for those who may not.

Has anyone else noticed this and knows of any other nice shortcuts gained?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mnherky:
I'm running the mssmison hero themed build and my lcd flashes amber, like there is a new notification whenever the phone goes to sleep but there aren't any. Is anyone else seeing this or do i have something installed that is not letting my phone sleep?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
if it is the amber LED on the right, that is telling you it is sleeping (slow flash)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mnherky:
OK then. I thought i read somewhere in this thread that amber was notification. i guess i don't need to worry about then. Thanks
[Touch CDMA Android Development] MynticeLX:
Is there anyway to turn off the LEDs?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] prodigy2m:
Craig rules!

I don't know what happened within few days, I am still going back through the posts but one thing is for certain. Craig (MSSMISON) RULES... You dude are f Cool... don't listen to people... You make this forum ALIVE and Kicking... Keep up or I will have to cry :) because I love your themed edition.

Big thanks again to the best developers Martin, Jesse, Steven, and Craig!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
Ah crap, I thought I was the only Craig here!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cointelbro:
welp i might have to say nevermind on looking into that button layer, since it looks like i might be moving to a GSM carrier

sorry :/
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
:) Nope. I thought the same thing when I saw your name though.. lol
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
:) So the rumors are true. I have a rogers rom working on the vogue. It brings exchange support, slightly different contacts app, different dialer with suggestion and a couple other changes. It's blazingly fast (I think faster than ion for sure) and really solid. I'm working out a couple issues before I release it to a couple fantastic guys for testing.

I wasn't going to post this because of yesterday's crap, but I've had alot of nice messages from some great people encouraging me to ignore an idiot. I have a family, and it's summer break for my kids so my time is at a premium, and I've spent alot of time on this and will not stand for any stupid comments about what I've contributed. (and that's the last I'm going to say about that situation)

With getting the rogers rom working I've also made huge headway on the hero rom with sense ui etc. It's alot closer than I thought it was to running.

Look for my new tread in the next couple of days.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] drprince89:
Sounds awesome, ill be on the lookout
[Touch CDMA Android Development] fireshaper:
WooHoo!!! Can't wait!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] oxsolid:
As bubb rubb would say...

da whistles go whoooo!!! :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] derekwilkinson:
mmmmmmmmmmmm sense ui :D :D :D :D
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mfpreach:
My name is Craig also haha
[Touch CDMA Android Development] aven_soulgazer:
When I click extended and it says hidden applications, the only option I see is to restore all hidden icons. Am I missing something there? mssmision, love the build. Hope you decide to keep working and releasing. I'm working on getting dual boot working properly so I can try getting into this. Got plenty of free time most of the time.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] MynticeLX:
Man - that Rogers rom sounds GREAT. I definitely cant wait to get my hands on it for Exchange server syncing!!!!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
Latitude issue/enhancement?

I came across this today:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/168996/Crippled_Google_Latitude_Web_App_Spotlights_iPhone_Fault.html

It basically states the Latitude sucks on the iPhone, because it won't run in the background, and thus won't update your location unless you have Maps open.

That's how Maps/Latitude seems to work for us. Is there any hope of increasing the GPS/Maps functionality so that we can have Latitude updating in the background, just like Android's supposed to do?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] t1mman:
Just woundering:

Have you tried wile the settings to kill apps on exit is off?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] KERKEDAGAIN:
The Christmas time she comes!!!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
You mean the "Immediately destroy activities" setting under Development Settings? I've never had that on.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] omgwtfbbqkthxbai:
but this stuff ain't purely for decoration, man.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] t1mman:
Exactly!

Come to think of it, it does the same thing with JogTracker, but I had that setting activated.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cointelbro:
wonder if this means people will be porting it to the G1 and Magic
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Rotund:
I'm having problems with my phone not going to sleep fully. (I press ANY button, and the screen comes back on.) Reading the APIs, this sounds like someone obtained a PARTIAL_WAKELOCK. Anyway to determine (like through adb or directly on phone) what app might be holding the lock? I'm using the 23-07-09a kernel and the latest system at the time. I'm sure it's some app I installed, but I'd like to know which one. Hoping it isn't Google Voice.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] oxsolid:
Google voice

can you make calls through. GV with your Gv. Number showing as the caller id... I have sprint and when I dial through gv it switches me to verizon's network
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
can't be a partial wakelock, because wakelocks aren't implemented :)

Has to be some module or something
[Touch CDMA Android Development] grktaurus83:
So let me get this straight... You're working on some issues with the Rogers build and you're making progress on the Sense UI build (all while youre family is on break!)? Yea, wow...

Glad to hear it, man. And glad I'm still seeing your name all over this thread and martin's. Seriously.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] stickus:
Android on the NAND?

So just curious about how things are coming along with getting Android on the internal flash? I would love to ditch WM almost completely and got rather excited about the possibility of Android on the NAND. Any word? :confused:
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
stickus, i'd love to give you better news, but so far we can *read* just fine from the internal memory, and any time we try to write to it, bad things happen (phone crashes, or it overwrites more than it is supposed to, and the written data doesn't show up properly)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
So the rogers rom is working except for googletalk and the market. The market says it's starting the download and googletalk just crashes.

I'm working on it.

Hero's on hold until I figure it out.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] fireshaper:
So the Rogers rom is an Android rom that we will be able to flash to? Also, is this a Google branded rom?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
it's an htc based rom. That's why it includes exchange and the htc dialer. And it's fast.. really fast.. And no it's not flashable, but that was already answered several posts back I think,.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] grktaurus83:
Again with the teasing! You're vicious.

Haha!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] PeterDLai:
Just curious (and anxious), what kind of speed improvements are you talking about? Is scrolling within the browser smoother? Applications run/load faster?

Great to hear that even though I find Android on our Vogues working quite reasonably already that there are still plenty of improvements to be made. :cool:

Thanks to all developers for all their hard work and time put into this project!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] derekwilkinson:
Are we going to meet some more hardware snags with the Hero build? :(

I was curious about that but thought you might have had all that set up.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Rotund:
Well, I'm on Verizon, so I suppose I wouldn't know =)

I know it requires a data connection to work. I'm trying to figure out exactly how it works. I'm hoping it's just VOIP.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jaredakelly:
YES!!!!!!!!! :D:D

http://phandroid.com/2009/07/24/sprint-ceo-confirms-2009-android-ready-for-primetime/
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jaredakelly:
i seriously can't wait!! :D
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
GV uses data to ask the google server for a connection, then the server calls you on the regular phone connection.

OR GV will call a central number (using your regular phone connection), then dial again from there to the endpoint. It isn't voip at all.

For voip you'll need SIPDroid or similar, which you can register with gizmo, then connect to google voice, then call... kindof a complicated process...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] nuttsak:
Umm, that says nothing that hasn't been out forever. Sprint is going to have the Samsung Galaxy. The question is, are they going to get the Hero too? The galaxy is 4G!

http://androinica.com/2009/04/02/samsung-to-release-android-phones-on-sprint-and-t-mobile/
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Gochris:
Very much looking forward to the rogers rom. I/we appreciate the work, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jaredakelly:
it hasn't been official for quite some time, constant rumors
[Touch CDMA Android Development] corypaul:
mssmison how to put the theme on the device (vogue Android)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] xeongx:
Anybody else noticed that the newer android-1.5-2009-07-23.zip runs slower than the older one.

Is there a place where I can download the previous system.img
[Touch CDMA Android Development] derekwilkinson:
Yeah, I thought it might have been just me.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] derekwilkinson:
Seriously? Did you even attempt to read?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] corypaul:
yea but it applies to android g1 not the vogue android
[Touch CDMA Android Development] omgwtfbbqkthxbai:
this is the vogue android thread. none of us have a g1.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] stickus:
NAND flash

I've been reading a bit (a very little bit :) ) on yaffs and yaffs2, and it struck me... could we not have the data.img and system.img be yaffs file systems inside the .img (as opposed to ext2)? Is this at all feasible or am I just sucking wind here?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] corypaul:
yea i know that im talk about this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=471586
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Rotund:
Okay, well, is there a way to determine what it is? I used to get 2-3 days out of my phone w/ minimal use. Now I can't make it through 8 hours. Same default.txt I had been using.

UPDATE:

Of course, I look and I DID have a new default.txt that had a pm.sleep of 3. Hopefully that's the problem
[Touch CDMA Android Development] derekwilkinson:
The theme was already ported.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] sshark:
So what did you set it to now to get 2-3 days? I currently have set it to 0...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
theming is the same files to edit, whatever android phone you have.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jaredakelly:
how is the rogers build coming along??

as you can see i'm anxious :D
[Touch CDMA Android Development] bchi49:
The mssmisonsystem.img uploaded today does not rotate back to portrait mode; e.g. Camera Button + Left Navigation button.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] rodmann98:
These builds are incredible! Thank you guys so much!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] sushichef:
you can get back to portrait mode by locking the phone (top power button) and then unlocking it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] bchi49:
ok, thanks.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] srwalter:
I'm thinking that Latitude specifies he wants a low-power location fix only. Since the only location provider we have is GPS, he only gets a fix when he's in the foreground. On the G1, however, they have cell triangulation, which can run all the time with minimal impact on the battery.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] srwalter:
Open up "Spare Parts" and go to "Battery History." Select "Partial Wake Usage" to see which apps have been keeping the phone out of full suspend.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] srwalter:
Unfortunately, this won't work. The way the image files are being mounted is through the "loopback" block device driver. As the name suggests, that gives you a block device, which is the interface that would be used by a hard drive. However, YAFFS, being a flash file system, wants the MTD interface. He can't run on top on a hard drive, so he can't run on top of a loopback-mounted file, either.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
the 7/26 mssmison system.img seems improved; it will rotate back and forth between portrait and landscape while within any program. only on the home screen does it seem not to rotate back to portrait for me. as noted, opening most programs will allow it to rotate back.

great build otherwise, seems stable for me. I was able to upgrade to google maps 3.1.2 easily through the market, seems to work better for me now.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
I've just put a new initrd on the google code site. It should fix the problem where long sms messages were garbled and caused the ril to die.

I've also uploaded just the new ril (libhtcgeneric-ril.so).

If you don't want to reboot your phone, you can install it by doing:

adb push libhtcgeneric-ril.so /lib

adb shell killall rild

Remember to copy the initrd too because replacing the ril will only last until you reboot.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] sushichef:
Awesome DZO Thanks!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] KERKEDAGAIN:
DZO, I tested your new initrd by sending 3 messages in 1 field and it worked beautifully! Thanks a bunch, this fix has been much anticipated.

In regards to your latest zimage..I noticed that the touch response is much greater..but it seems that it might be TOO good. This is really only an issue when typing as it would sometimes double press the letter or intermittently select a random letter nearby on the keyboard possibly because I grazed it on my way to the next. I've reverted back to the 7-24 zimage which solves MY problem..I'm not complaining (disclaimer, ha) just wondering if I'm the only one who noticed this/if there is a middle ground.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jaredakelly:
im actually hoping for a more sensitive screen
[Touch CDMA Android Development] oxsolid:
more sensitive vote

i'm happy with the current screen; but i agree that more sensitive would be better than less senitive
[Touch CDMA Android Development] ~David:
Loving the better touch screen sensitivity and accuracy! :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cointelbro:
is there a way to override the files in system.img?

for instance, i want to override the image's qwerty.kl

is there a default.txt command to tell it to look for it or what?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
we can't override anything in system.img. Instead we need to move the file into the initrd and put a link in its place in system.img. Cointelbro, if you can build the editor (as an APK) for the keymap and keychars files (keychars allows setting alt-key combinations), I'll make the changes in the kernel, system.img, and initrd... was thinking of starting on this tonight actually.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
Sounds like we may be close to key remapping...awesome but I am now totally trained by android. In winmo I often find myself turning up the volume when trying to exit an application :p
[Touch CDMA Android Development] nabicat:
Yup, can completely relate to that. Each time I want to back out of an app, I mess the volume up.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] derekwilkinson:
Haha, me too :D
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tallnerd1985:
+1 to that
[Touch CDMA Android Development] grktaurus83:
another +1 (or x2) to that one... whichever you prefer...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] drprince89:
+1, lol i cant go back!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] lazyvegaskid:
Hahaha I do that every damn time and even when i tell myself i wont after just messing up 2 mins before haha. Love my winmo too but android has been stuck on my phone, not sure I want a flashable image i love the best of both worlds.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] KERKEDAGAIN:
I'm not much of a "back" person..so whenever I'm in WinMo I typically turn my phone off because of trying to get to the home screen!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] lazyvegaskid:
i find myself making the same mistake along with almost all other functions haha gotta love both OS's tho
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
I disagree. I think WinMo is probably the worst mobile OS out there.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
I hate winmo, it really is a hack of an OS for mobile... they just took their regular embedded OS (which was junk to begin with, we use it at work, and it is a pain!), dropped in a phone application and a calendar application, and said "look! a mobile OS!"

I also do the above... I think I want to get away from an alt- or shift-key combination completely... The advantage of the keychars way of doing things is that *hopefully* I'll be able to use my camera button for menu and my power button for back, use the first-press-end-key function to go home (i can do without the current running programs list), and not need to risk dropping my phone trying to change the volume or silence a ring in a meeting...

But if people like how it is currently mapped they could do that too... we'll just have to see how well it works.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheKartus:
Just saw this on lifehacker,

http://lifehacker.com/5325441/sugarsync-extends-file-syncing-to-android-phones

Mutliplatform Android synching program. Could this possibly work/help us with being able to connect and sync our phones with a non linux box?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
Nice find, but I would bet it wouldn't help too much. It looks like it's just an app for android. We would need new Windows drivers to increase platform compatibility.

When you say "non-linux," I have to point out that there are other platforms that sync fine with our phones. OSX and WinXP for starters. I know there's problems with Win7 64-bit... I can't even use a Linux VM to connect to my phone at home. I have to do all my adb'ing at work.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
I like this idea. Can we try mapping like this?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] adeyo:
text voice + mssmison img voice dialer error still...

sry, two quick questions: above quote, can you actually input text via voice? how? or are you just talking about voice dialer and attaching a voice recording to your text message?

**EDIT** mmssmison voice dialer question moved to mssmison thread
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
deleted reply
[Touch CDMA Android Development] drprince89:
I think thats the best idea on mapping so far
[Touch CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
Going home to switch often results in the "giong home" lag that seems to happen with heavy data usage apps. I use the app switcher a lot to avoid this. In the car it's great for switching between imeem/last.fm and maps/places with easy access from the exposed top, no interference with the cradle. Perfect roadtrip and commute use case. Just my $0.02

Also, how would the proposed key layout put the phone to sleep?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
by hitting red key twice. spare parts allows you to set red key to go to home first, and then put phone to sleep on second press.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] KERKEDAGAIN:
I'm talkin' real deal Speech-to-text (STT, heh) You receive a text message; it uses SMS Popup technology wherein you can choose to respond via voice, close, or go to your inbox. After you speak your response you can edit or add puctuation with the keyboard before you send. MAD handy app!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jnrbshp:
you dont think the end key would make a better back??

and power to go home and sleep?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
jnrbshp, that is how it is in windows mobile, but if we did that in android, you'd have to push the power button to end a call, and I don't think that is what people want.

But the idea, is that you could set it up however you like, I just need to find a reliable person to write the gui frontend that will modify the binary keychars files.

The only functionality we would lose by going this way is the rotation, as I haven't found a key command to rotate, we're currently emulating opening the drawer on a G1...

Maybe long-press of camera is a different keycode than short-press? thats how it is on other devices.

By the way, new initrd posted that you can now properly reset the radio by pressing the disconnect button twice in modem.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] adeyo:
Kerkedagain

Wait, what??? I tried downloading MAD translate but the one i found didn't have speech-to-text only text to speech and it kept freezing up... where can i find this app?!

***EDIT**** AHHH....thanks KERKEDAGAIN. I just downloaded it and it is great!! This is incredible!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] KERKEDAGAIN:
Yipes! Sorry for the confusion..the name of the app is Voice Text
[Touch CDMA Android Development] bangout:
Thanks for all the hard work. Works great. Adb would be nice
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vilord:
Huh? ADB would be nice? It works already! just set up ADB stuff on your desktop as if you had a t-mobile G1 in your hands (search the web for it), it'll work great.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] bangout:
sry just seen it. i must have read it wrong. thanx once again
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zakkain:
Linked to this thread from dzo's thread.

My god, this latest cupcake build ROCKS. Kudos. So much kudos.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] grktaurus83:
Haven't been messing around with Android much in the last month or so, but I thought I'd finally give 1.5 a try with your latest update (linked over from Martin's thread).

Very impressive work. Kudos to you and everyone involved on this end.