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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rm1984:
Just spoken with Orange and the phone is currently in testing :rolleyes: and it there will only be limited number handset to start off with for Business Account holders :(.

Imagine Orange are fecking up software as we speak :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ed_bracam:
Orange is busy with the Iphone 3GS in pre-ordering and nothing for the TP2...:mad:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Greenturtle:
They're releasing the iPhone 3Gs? I didn't know O2 weren't keeping it exclusively anymore.

Orange updated their coming soon list! No TP2 though :P
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Greenturtle:
Just got off the phone with Orange.

Apparently it's 'limited stock' at the moment and that the update on their server today said that they were in testing mode. If it pasts tests then it will be given to business customers in limited stock, then if it is popular they'll release it to personal customers.

What was interesting, was that he said if an Orange shop stocks the phone, they might be a to give to you on a personal contract as 'they have more leeway than the telesales'.

Sigh, the wait carries on...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] vardig:
ORANGE now sell the TP2

http://www.business.orange.co.uk/se...1=Phone&pagename=Business&t=SMEDeviceFeatures
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SamJolly:
Hmmmm..

No price and not in store....

I am not convinced that it is ready for sale yet....

Unless you can see something that I cannot...

I am with Orange at present, but am considering moving to VF for the TP2 if I can put up with the customisation.

It will be interesting to see what customisation Orange do to their TP2....

Sam
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] niktheman:
i Have the pro 2 from orange, its on there review list so i manage to get one some how.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] niktheman:
the only thing i can see at the moment is that they have the Orange home screen loaded but, it can be switched to the touchflo3d. Will give more updates once i have more time to play with it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SamJolly:
THanks for this.

Dare I ask what sort of deal you got out of them for this phone?

yes I would VERY, VERY insterested to hear how much they have nobbled/customised the phone. If very little then credit to them.

Thanks,

Sam
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dazultra2000:
From my fairly good past experience with Orange WinMo customisation (used to work for them in retail) you can expect the following:

- Orange Homescreen (may or may not be locked)

- Orange "theme" for your menus

- Orange's own ringtones (which are usually actually quite good)

- Custom Orange World icon on the HW keyboard

- Orange logo on the back cover between "Touch Pro2" and the Mute button

- One or two "useful" apps like TrafficTV (beware hidden costs)

- Disabled long-keypress on hangup button

- Possibly customised Boot Logos
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SamJolly:
Daz, Thanks...

So the same sort of customisation as VF then???

Sam
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] wootty2000:
Just spoke to Business and they have had loads of calls about upgrades to the TP2.

Was told the phone is still in testing and they claiming it is not available yet as the stock list does not show any available handsets.

At least it is showing on the website, so that is defiantly a start...

What did you have to say or do to get your hands on one of these? Or did you go to a retail outlet and get the none branded version?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Greenturtle:
Haha, they were probably all from me :P That's what they told me yesterday, that it was still in testing and if it 'passed the test' then they would release it Business then Personal users if it does well.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] niktheman:
Ok, just playing with it, now

1: Orange Homescreen is on there but not locked

2: There is one orange theme but can be switched

3: Ringtones look the same as my Touch hd, so i cant see anymore that have been added

4: Glad to say there is no Orange world icon on the keyboard

5: Only orange Logo is at the back cover at the bottom

6: Apps, the only thing i can see is Orange maps installed

7: Yes the boot logo is Orange

8: WM6.1 Pro, CE OS 5.2.21051 (Build 21051.1.6.4), Processor MSM7200A-528Mhz

If anyone else need more info just let me know.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] niktheman:
some pic's of the phone
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dazultra2000:
Very interesting!

Was your TouchHD from Orange as well? As I suspect that would have had the tones too.

The last HTC that I was able to check the tones on was the Diamond, and that definately had them. Shame if they stopped for the HD and so on.

Also interesting to see that they don't have the "Touch Pro 2" branding on the back. Maybe they're planning on giving it one of Orange's inspired names.

Looks like Orange have also bundled their own video player software into the package. Is that any good? I expect it's crippled somewhat. I would also expect some parts of Orange Maps to require a subscription of somesort.

Glad to see they haven't butchered the hardware keyboard. Should be theoretically very easy to make this device look unbranded (HSPL, New ROM, new back cover).

Also interesting to see it's running a newer WM6.1 build than the stock HTC devices.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Greenturtle:
So how do you have your hands on this device?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Greenturtle:
Sugar cube trick?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] niktheman:
I work for one of Orange's Business partner, so i asked for one and was amazed that they sent one to me so quickly.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Greenturtle:
Well I'm amazingly jealous :P It's seemingly unlikely but I need Orange to release this within the next week! My contract expires in two days and although I was just going to let it roll over until the phone was released to personal users, my 18 month £10 discount apparently stops on the 1st July so my contract will jump up in price by a tenner!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ibanyard:
Wait until the phone is released (for upgrades), phone customer services, pick out the upgrade option in the menu system, then ask to speak to retentions.

Tell them that you've seen the phone you want, on other provider (you dont need to say who), at a package that is more appealling and that you are considering leaving orange unless they can match it.

Orange are pretty good at trying to keep customers. Dont take the P***, they too have access to T'Internet, and will know the competitors average pricing - you'll have some ley-way, but dont overcook it!

I've currently got 2x handsets on consumer, I'm going to transfer them both to business and get 1xPro2 for me and a BB handset for the wife. The transfer process takes about 1 week, which is when Orange say the handset will be available for Business Upgrades. Looks like Pro2 not available for upgrades until mid-july (got the "in-testing" line from the customer service rep I spoke to today).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] wootty2000:
Phones4u now list the TP2 on there website with a back order date of 27 June. Unfortunately they can not do an upgrade on that phone, just new contracts
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Greenturtle:
I had a very good conversation with retentions yesterday, telling them about how I wanted this device and got the lady relate with my about my hatred of 100% touch screen phones with no keyboards etc.

She said that she'd ring me as soon as it's actually available for Business customers and that there might be wiggle room with my contract because I have very high loyalty or something and that she'd discuss it with her manager about me getting a Business phone on a personal contract :P. Fingers crossed eh.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ibanyard:
nice one, I'll hold off getting tx'd to business, see if I can get someone more useful in rententions in a few days... with 2 lines, about 150 a mnth spend and having been with Orange for about 9 years I should have some clout
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Greenturtle:
Wow, yeh I'd say so. I just want them to actually release the phone, why does it take so long!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] wootty2000:
Spoke to orange eariler and they have told me that it is now looking more like mid July instead of mid June before they get the release the TP2. Considering todays date, I guess that mid June has already been and nearly gone... Also, they are now looking at releasing it to both domestic and business customers on it's release.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] zoomee:
mid july? hmmm - I've had my work Orange Touch Pro2 since beginning of last week :P

It seems really smooth but I still prefer my personal Touch HD ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ibanyard:
TP2 out now on Orange Business.... However also listed the Tosh TG01 on Orange coming soon.... Prefer the TP2....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] wootty2000:
Has someone from Orange actually told yout this?

I know that its listed on the Orange business website, but its not currently available on the business shop

EDIT:

just come off the phone with Orange... They are still insisting that it's in test and not available :-(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Greenturtle:
Sigh, come on Orange. I wanted it to be out when I got back from holiday! They released the Hero rather quickly, so why is this taking so long...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ibanyard:
Orange Business Press Release

(From Tracy&Matt)

Orange announces HTC Touch Pro2 for business customers

The ultimate high-end Windows Mobile PDA phone for business customers serious about their communication

· Straight TalkT - Sometimes you need to stop bouncing emails back and forth and just make the call. The HTC Touch Pro2 lets you do it instantly, from within the email, just by tapping the image icon of the sender

· Slide out QWERTY keyboard and screen tilt feature makes writing email easy

· Powered by Windows Mobile Professional® 6.1 for seamless integration with business networks

2 July 2009 - Orange today announced the availability of the HTC Touch Pro2 for all business customers, combining multimedia and powerful business tools with smart styling.

The HTC Touch Pro2 makes organising, hosting and participating in conference calls easier than ever before. The appointment reminder tool will cue up dial-in details and the call agenda and with a tap of the screen you can effortlessly join the call. Further taps to the screen allow the user to also confer privately with a single person and then return to the conference call if they so wish. The HTC Touch Pro2's quad-band 3G+ connectivity also delivers reliable high quality voice calling and with Windows Mobile® 6.1 Professional, users can very simply synchronise all Microsoft Outlook email, contacts and calendar information directly with their phone.

Business users can also use the HTC's Straight TalkT feature to switch from an email account to single or multi-party voice calls by pressing the image icon of the email sender. For those on the move, the HTC Touch Pro2 transforms into a professional quality speaker phone with a noise-cancelling microphone and speakers, just by placing it face down on a surface.

The device also boasts a 3.6-inch high-resolution touch screen, while a slide out QWERTY keyboard with adjustable tilt allows users to easily write emails or amend documents. With capacity for an 8GB MicroSD card, professionals can use the HTC Touch Pro2 to watch a film, listen to music or browse the internet on the move.

"The HTC Touch Pro2 is packed with features to make everyday business tasks a great deal easier and is the ideal mobile companion for the busy business user," said François Mahieu, Director of Devices at Orange.

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Thought I'd call in too, as I've got 2 handsets with about £150 month spend, but still in testing :(.

i've asked them to call when available, however, I'm not holding my breath.. also reiterated that I only have a few weeks left on contract and am looking at other providers...

(Just thinking I remember it was just the same for my TytnII (and the Tytn, and I think for my M500 too....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ashtemple:
Been calling every other day and still get told that its coming out tomorrow... They dont have a clue!

They did exactly the same with the TYTN II
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] zoomee:
As this is being promoted as a business tool orange have to do their testing to ensure its ok with exchange and all the other business tools that they will have to support when its officially released. Must be a bug they've picked up and working on resolving.

I noticed mine has something installed on it called Orange Labs (its in add/remove programs)

I'm usually amongst the first in the country to get my hands on the new orange SPV's and noticed this wasnt exactly brand new (no protector on the keyboard) hence assume its been used for testing by orange themselves.

ROM version is 1.19.61.3 (51489) WWE (dated 05/26/09)

Radio: 3.45.25.14
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ibanyard:
Orange Labs.. whatsthatthen? got a cab hidden on it somewhere to share?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] carlos_c:
Funny it says it's available on business, we're a sme and the best they could offer us was tyn II - on our package - ah well - Vodafone here we come
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] wootty2000:
Orange told me the tytn2 has been discontinued. Go figure...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] zoomee:
TyTn II is officially end of life unless your business has managed to reserve some stock like mine.

Its natural successor is the TP2.

Will check out if theres anything 'additional' that installed orangelabs program gives us before I perform a hard reset.

Only thing I've tested on it is groupwise PDA connect (which doesnt work just like on my Personal Touch HD) and Spikes Taskbar icons which seem to be doing the job (not sure about battery performance yet) - havn't had much time to play.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] shaunspp5:
I’ve just been reading through this post and Im a little confused. :confused: You where saying is only on Orange Business? Well I got one on a personal Orange contract last Friday (supplied by a major UK high street and online store).

I am actually a Vodafone business customer, but took it for 7days on Orange to test it out before I committed us to Vodafone again. You can even get it on a Vodafone personal contract if you push retentions hard enough.

After a week of playing around, Im now still on Vodafone and have a nice shiny TP2 :D

Enjoy your phone when you get it!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] wootty2000:
Was this from Phones4U by any chance? They will do a new contract with the TP2 for domestic. If you go down this route, the Orange insurance will not be valid as the phone is an unbranded handset.

The only probablem with this, is I really like the Orange insurance plan and I have not found a plan better than their's.

The other thing about going to your cellular provider for a phone is that if you have a problem, you only have one body to go back to... Orange cant blame HTC's generic software/ROM for an incompatibility or what ever because they test it for full compatibilty. If the phone breaks down (and you have their insurance), they will just send you a replacement handset because if you are without your phone, you cant spend money and Orange will loose out.

All this being said... As soon as Orange release the handset and HardSPL is out, I will be flashing the phone with a cooked ROM anyway
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cubit:
TP2 and Orange

Well, it's definitely out. Collected 3 of them yesterday. Business contract.

Doesn't seem to be crippled with the usual Orange tat either.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] wootty2000:
Where did you get them from? Orange shop, Carphone warehouse, Phones4U etc?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] zoomee:
Are you sure mate?

I got my Touch HD from Phones 4 U last year - it was orange branded and now I also have orange insurance on it too....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] shaunspp5:
I got the phone from Phone4U on Orange and it WAS an Ornage Branded phone. Their rom and the logo printed on the back of the case. So Im sure your insureance would be fine.

I can also confirm that the Orange Rom is better than the Vodafone Rom, its a lot faster to use and it also simply looks better to!

I sent the oranage one back and stuck with Vodafone, a far better company and their mobile broadband is around 7mbs!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] wootty2000:
Wow... Orange told me (you would have thought I would have learnt by now) that Phones4U only had the unbranded handsets, hence the insurance being invalid

Did you get the phone in store or over the internet?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] shaunspp5:
I got it from the website, the links just below:

http://www.phones4u.co.uk/shop/shop_contract_details.asp?ItemKey=282651

But come on, ditch orange and go vodafone!!!:p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Greenturtle:
Are we all still sitting, waiting and wishing then?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] wootty2000:
I might consider ditching Orange for Vodafone, if they had any signal near my home.

I had a text today from Orange saying "Hello from Orange the pro 2 has launched Unfortunately it is not available over the phone in Orange shops only thank you"

This does not seem to be the case though, as I have spoken to a few Orange shops and even a business center and none of them have the Touch Pro2 or think they will even get it.

Phoned Orange back and found out that they launched the phone, then canceled the launch due to more problems.

So we still dont have a date for the release, or know if they are even going to release the phone :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Greenturtle:
Sounds like some great management going no there. Sigh, I'm not going to switch contract due to my ridiculous loyalty on the account so I'll just wait it out..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ibanyard:
X2, was wondering if somewhere like phones4u will do orange upgrades for existing customers - although I've still got a few weeks until the actual end of my contracts, however orange will allow you to add any remaining weeks/months to the end of the new contract......if p4u do the same then might be worth a look... might phone them next week if no new news from Orange...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ashtemple:
The only reason id go through Orange now is using the retensions department and threaten to quit. it tends to bring my bill down by about 30% every new contract and getthe phone for free

I called today and they said there is now no release date. The guy said its always been penciled in and moved... I think this is better as theyre always getting the dates wrong
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] venner93:
:cool:I HAVE THE ANSWER:cool:

Go on phones4u.co.uk then the touch pro 2 is on there NO BUSINESS CONTRACT NEEDED. and it is orange network.... my dad first approached orange and they said they could not open a contract because of VAT registration and stuff. but 2 days ago he ordered 1 from phones 4 u and it turned up the next day with the orange logo and all orange rom. it is a better rom than the vodafone rom (i have a voda touch pro 2 but i modified it so now mines better:D). Any way hope i have helped: go to phones4u.co.uk and chose a orange touch pro 2 as from personal experience there better than vodafone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] wibble:
So Orange HAVE released it but not on their own site.... great!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] meeporox:
where about is the logo located? Just wondering is it possible to replace the cover with the original cover without orange logo? I don't really like branded phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ibanyard:
Tried Phones4U, they'll only do the TP2 on a new connection :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Greenturtle:
Well the Hero was released a few days ago. Maybe the TP2 is next?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ibanyard:
TP2 on business!!!!

http://www.business.orange.co.uk/servlet/Satellite?c=OUKDevice&cid=1242977836148&pagename=Business

Since I've waited this long, I'm going to hang on for another week and see what happens with consumer...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] wootty2000:
Had to upgrade from domestic to business, and now I finally have my Orange TP2.

I have been paying about £65 a month for a few years now and they want £166 the for phone. Managed to get the price down to £50 and get my contract down to £35 per month with more free minutes
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Greenturtle:
Where is it available for business on the website? That's been on the website for ages but not available for purchase. wootty2000, I assume that means it's officially out of testing then?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] wootty2000:
Yup, ring orange business (345 from your orange phone)

Last time I looked, it was only listed on the business website, and not the small business shop website

The steps you will probably need to take

Take a copy of your company letter headed paper in to an Orange store.

Ask to upgrade from a domestic customer to a business customer

Show letter headed paper to prove you are a company

The store will ring Orange Business customer services, speak for a bit and then pass the phone to you (this is what *should* happen - see below)

Give business name and details to business customer services

Ask for a phone upgrade to TP2

Explain that you are not prepared to pay £166 for a phone when you are already spending £xxx per month

Speak to retentions and ask for the TP2

Get put on a better tariff

Wait 24 hours for phone to arrive

Sit back and smile at new phone

I did have a few issues in store

They told me I needed a copy of my business bank statement - This is not true as you might not have a business bank account as a sole trader

If I did not upgrade my phone in store I could not become a business customer - This is also not true. No stores in the UK (as far as I know) have the TP2 in stock at the yet (Trafford Centre in Manchester did have a handfull a few weeks back but they have all been sold) My answer was "Ok, I'll ring Orange Business, explain what you have said, you can speak with them, and business services will get it all sorted for me"

If you also change to a business tariff you get free phone insurance

HTH
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ibanyard:
...Or use the attached form to transfer from consumer to business..., email to address at bottom....

Apparently takes 5days to transfer, can then get the phone... I'm waiting on a callback from them to confirm, will update as soon as i hear.....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] geronimocommie:
call

call business and if they ask if u got a business say "YES", then if i didnt work ask if they couldnt do it for you because u realy like the phone, if it didnt work call them again and pray for it to be a different telesaler then try again, worked for me.:cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Greenturtle:
You got the phone without a Business contract?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Greenturtle:
I'm contemplating upgrading to the HTC Hero and just selling it on the bay, then buying a TP2.

Orange were very unhelpful just then about getting me a Touch Pro2 on a Personal Contract when I went through retentions. Sigh..