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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Jamesd00d:
my cousin has 2 orange spv m3100 and was thinking about upgrading them to windows mobile 6 or 6.1 depending on rom's available

is this easily done?

and would it be best to unlock the phone so it can go on all networks before the rom update or after it?

all advice would be great thank you :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] xetnic:
http://www.business.orange.co.uk/se...135315302196&extarg2=SPV+M3100&extarg4=select :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] FCW:
this link is for wm5. orange never released a update for wm6 or 6.1. Id suggest super cid unlocking the phone and flashing from there. if you want a stock rom id idvise one of the HTC releases but if you want somthing fancy id go for the custom 6.5 builds. the os is still in beta but its not far off release now. its by far the best mobile os in my opinion. just be aware that theres a time limit on them so youll need to keep it up to date with the latest builds. older ones expire at the end of this month. the newest is 21728
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Jamesd00d:
Thanks for that FCW :)

if i flash it onto a 6.5 can i flash a 6/6.1 when my beta finishes?

ive saw some of the screens for 6.5 and it looks well nice, the whole layout seems to have changed
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] FCW:
yes you can upgrade/downgrade as you please as long as you have hardspl and supercid unlock first.

Just in case you dont have them

SuperCid (this installs hardspl as well and sim and cid unlocking the device) http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=293665

Just make sure you read the instructions before you run the tool. you dont want to do this wrong as it includes a radio flash. :eek:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Jamesd00d:
my cousin has 2 orange spv m3100 and was thinking about upgrading them to windows mobile 6 or 6.1 depending on rom's available

is this easily done?

and would it be best to unlock the phone so it can go on all networks before the rom update or after it?

all advice would be great thank you :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Scotty93:
Upgrading your device's rom is quite easy after youve done it once, just check the wiki page, upgrading for beginners this should tell you all you need to know about flashing a rom for the first time.

Have fun :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Jamesd00d:
cheers scotty :)

we're guna havea play about with both of them next tuesday/wednesday when we're both free

maybe unlock teh sim so it goes any network aswell :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Jamesd00d:
another quick question

do you know if the latest rom on there for the orange spv m3100 is a wm6 build?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Scotty93:
no there wasnt a wm6 released for the spv m3100 the actual newest orange rom is a update on wm5 it is in my uploaded file i think if you want to have a look, i used a cooked rom after hard-spl and super cid everything works fine and i have flashed quite a few roms.

Have fun :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Jamesd00d:
thanks

do you know of any wm6 roms for the spv?

or if i got the phone unlocked and used a vodafone sim in it would i be able to flash vodafone roms or would i still have to use the orange rom?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Greeee:
James, going to your original question, I've recently done this myself, and over the past week, i've flashed my phone numerous times, so its very easily done.

Just read the guides, and make sure your 100% confident that you've understood it, I did and i'm 100% happy with the outcome!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Jamesd00d:
Thanks Greeee :)

did you flash a wm6 or a wm5?

cause it comes with a wm5, but wanna updte to a wm6
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Greeee:
Tbh, I should've explained something...

My phone is the HTC Hermes 200, not the SPV M3100, although they are the same phone, mines not branded by any network.

It was shipped to me (Bought secondhand) as WM6.1, so all I did last week was updated the HardSPL and since tried a few roms.

I didn't have to use SuperCID, to unlock mine, as it was unlocked, but I do wish you well buddy, and word of recommendation, try not to use branded software on phones, as they bog them down with too much bloatware, stick with what you like.

If need be, I'll help where I can, but tbh, your in safer hands with everyone in here, as all I did was read the guides, and stuck to what was being advised.

The people here are good, which makes it so much easier to use!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Jamesd00d:
cheers Greeee

well im thinking of getting it unlocked before i do anything to it anyway, when using roms without a specified carrier does that mean i can use any rom or is it best to stick with the operator specified?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Scotty93:
if you super cid you device you can use any rom that has been cooked or from any carrier as it is basically a unlock for that a bit like a sim unlock. most people use the cooked roms by the chefs in the wm6 part of the forum where there are wm6/6.1 and 6/5 roms that have been cooked and have different features so you will probably have to do a bit of flashing and some looking around before you find a rom that is best suited to you.

If you have ne more questions just ask, Have fun :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Jamesd00d:
cheers again scotty

super cid, that easy to do?

just like flashing?

and could i sitll use any carrier rom even if i got someone at a shop to unlock my phone to any carrier?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Scotty93:
super cid an sim unlocking is different to flashing i think i dont really remember

wiki on sim an cid unlock here

and a thread here

hope this helps and saves u paying to have it unlocked good luck :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Jamesd00d:
yer unlocking and super cid are dif to flashing

are super cid and unlocking the same you know?

cheers for the links, i'll try saving some cash now :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Scotty93:
no problem and they both come in the same program you just choose which one you want to do both.

Good luck :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Jamesd00d:
whats teh splbootloader thing what i been reading about?

it says you need to install that or something :s
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Scotty93:
do you mean hard-spl?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Jamesd00d:
yer thats what i mean
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Scotty93:
you will need to flash version 7 2.10 after the sim and cid unlock this prevents your device from bricking if a flash goes wrong
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Jamesd00d:
cheers

so sim/cid unlock

then flash hard spl 7 2.10

then flash my rom?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Scotty93:
yes but before you sim/cid unlock check what radio your pda is running becuase it changes the radio rom on your device so you will need to flash another one, you can check the radio if you soft reset your device it will come up on the first screen with other information.

the safest way to flash roms if with a sd card if you have one the method on how to do this is in the wiki here

Good Luck :D
[G1 General] bbbblack:
My calendar online at gmail has tons of items dating back to october. But when I sync it only goes back to like april. Is there a special way to bring these events back to the device? Its used to work but for some reason it doesn't. And I double checked, and all the original events dating back to october/november when I got the phone are online. I keep syncing but It doesn't show up. Suggestions or reasons devs?
[G1 General] Mikey:
Please post in the proper forum (General) And do a search there first prior to creating a new thread.

This is a question, has nothing to do with developing.

Moved and warned
[General Topics] slick69:
... thousands of people buy iPhones.

Discuss :D
[General Topics] Rudegar:
the first iphone did not work with normal 3.5mm headsets
[General Topics] slick69:
No HTC phone works with normal 3.5mm headsets.
[General Topics] Rudegar:
sure

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Overview

comes with 3.5mm

and for the rest one can get a extUSb -> 3.5mm minijack converter for 5€
[General Topics] D'rath:
Sorry if I wrong to understand the point but HTC HD has 3.5 jack and it works with normal headset

D'rath
[General Topics] denco7:
The iPhone only works with a 3.5mm headset IF you buy a $10 adapter to go with it. The jack is inset in the phone and cannot be reached by a normal 3.5mm plug. So you are forced to buy Apple's or an " iPhone approved " headset. Or the $10 adapter. Just like you can but a mini usb adapter to use 3.5mm with HTC
[General Topics] nir36:
First of all, it is ridiculous that HTC doesn't put 3.5mm jacks on ALL new devices.

Second of all... choosing an iPhone isn't the opposite of choosing HTC.

Thirdly, if a 3.5mm jack is your only problem.. you must be way off... because that's the least of the problems..

Strong processors, Flash in the Diamond2 and HD.... these are problems.
[General Topics] orb3000:
My Universal also come with it, no problem!
[General Topics] slick69:
My Axim, which was manufactured by HTC also came with a 3.5mm jack. That's not the issue guys. Sony Ericsson's X1, also manufactured by HTC came with 3.5mm jack. See a trend? We need to put pressure on HTC - why defend HTC's decision to not use 3.5mm jacks at all? They only do it so they can sell their stupid extUSB connectors, which are liable to break, fall apart and add bulk.

The next person to say "Bluetooth A2DP" gets the pleasure of buying me an extended battery by Seidio. :D

Also, why did the Touch HD come with 3.5mm jack and then they removed it on the TD2 and TP2?
[General Topics] toiletduk:
I have a 3.5mm jack on my Xperia and I've used it 0 times.
[General Topics] slick69:
Please send it across, shall I send you a SASE? :cool:
[General Topics] toiletduk:
I meant the 3.5mm jack. I use the Xperia quite a lot, and will continue to until the Touch Pro 2 hits AT&T. ^_^
[General Topics] Rudegar:
don't think you can have too many takers for solvering out their 3.5mm minijack which can be bougth pretty cheap at rs-catalog and send them to you....
[General Topics] slick69:
That's the PAST bub. Apple actually listened to it's customers and removed the retarded design in the 2G, which is more than I can say for HTC, which won't even introduce it's flagship device (the only one with 3.5mm jack) in the biggest economy in the world.

I buy a Touch HD, pay $700 for the privilege of bug testing it, then find it won't even work on 3G in the US on the only carrier HTC does support unlocked 3G on! Wonderful!
[General Topics] adeltaY:
Here's why. Money . . . . it's that simple.
[General Topics] abvmoose:
Ive had a Touch cruise for a year and now I only get sound from the right channel. I use one converter with my earbuds and another for my car stereo so its not the converter. It would be nice if they could start stick 3.5 jacks in all their phones
[General Topics] toiletduk:
What do you guys use a 3.5mm jack for? Surely not music, because the available applications are a bit lacking in the interface department. :/
[General Topics] slick69:
Baby steps.
[General Topics] toiletduk:
I'm not sure what you mean. Are you implying that HTC including a jack on all models will influence the development of better players? It's a little far fetched if that's what you mean. :O
[General Topics] Monty Burns:
what about HTC actually using quality parts and manufacturing rather than bits that fall to bits - even when treated with cotten gloves? Thats my vote!

(yes, four HTC phones, all have had to go back at least once for harware warranty repairs)
[General Topics] slick69:
Are there any serious $500+ phones announced nowadays without 3.5mm jack? The Omnia and Omnia HD both had 3.5mm jacks, heck even the archetypal business devices - Blackberrys - have 3.5mm audio jacks nowadays.

Ask any business owner which is more business like while showing him a Blackberry Curve and a Touch Diamond and see which he picks :cool:

Ask any tween which looks more fun while showing her an iPhone or Omnia and a Touch Diamond see which she picks.

Seems HTC doesn't want to put its full effort into anything.
[General Topics] toiletduk:
You ask a lot of a Taiwanese company. -_-
[General Topics] Monty Burns:
TD isn't a business phone in my opinioin, its a geek phone. No keyboard-less phone is a business phone. Sadly, I thought the Omnia might be and whilst its the best WinMo device i've ever used, its lack of physical keyboard in a meeting is a b*tch.
[General Topics] nir36:
If I had flash and an 800Mhz processor on my HD it would be as near to perfect as I would expect. First of all, you can't expect a company to make everything "as good as you'd expect"... because companies don't work that way (99% of the times at least).

I agree that HTC are WAY OFF on some of the features... since the Diamond 2 and TP2 OBVIOUSLY needed stronger processors.. and the diamond OBVIOUSLY needs a stronger battery considering what users are expecting from it.

I don't think, tho, that comparing HTC to other manufacturers is relevant to this debate. Samsung has more than 1 device.. and from what i've seen.. they mostly suck. Toshiba had a series of devices prior the TG01 (which can easily be argued to be an amazing device if it wasn't the size of a house)... and those devices weren't any good in my eyes.

What you guys are trying to do is take the best of different manufacturers and put it in one HTC phone. It IS relevant to do so since HTC are supposed to listen to their customers.. but arguing that "they suck where others don't" isn't the right way to look at it.

I'm telling HTC, as a Polaris -> Diamond -> HD user... that i was satisfied with the Polaris more than the Diamond and the HD. This isn't the way it's supposed to be.

Grow some balls, add 150$ to the price of the Diamond 2 and give us a 1000Mhz processor, a flash and PROPER GOD DAMN DRIVERS, and i'll buy.

Remember tho... Toshiba/Samsumg/whatever users can say that as well.
[General Topics] Monty Burns:
:eek:You surley cannot be talking about an Omnia???? :eek: Omnias are daddy. Stable, fast, good battery life, loads of ram AND loads of storage. Im seriously happy with mine .... except for the lack of a physical keyboard. I rate my Omnia much better than the Blueangel, tytn, tytn 2 and TD i've owned.

btw, I had a tosh g900 and it was a brilliant device. It was running 800x480 a couple of years ago ... well done the rest of the WinMob world for finaly catching up!:D
[General Topics] nir36:
I didn't wish to degrade the other companies. not all omnias are good. My friend has an Omnia.. and he always tells me he wants to kill himself for buying it.

Storage is the least of our problems. 30GB on a PDA is EXACTLY like having 8GB in my eyes. Ram is important, and as HTC finally realized that they put 256mb.. which is enough for you to run a decent amount of applications.

Brilliant devices are measured by the device itself, not by the company it comes from. the Polarlis is a BRILLIANT device for what you pay for it. Its stable, responsive, has a good battery, very very useful with its rotor wheel, sleek design... anything I wanted in PDA when i first bought it.

The wizard is a KILLER device... considering how old it is.. but.. HTC have problems..

Toshiba and samsung are the same. they should be measured by their devices rather than by their name. I'm a BIG Toshiba fan. They make excellent products. I've had 4 laptops, all from Toshiba. 3 were great, 1 SUCKED completely. Can i say Toshiba is great? yeah.. they MOSTLY have good products.

Consider the Universal for instance.. an old device, big screen, good resolution... which doesn't mean the Diamond is a good device. No flash, low memory, very very short on battery, sucky GPS...

What i'm saying is... don't judge HTC.. because then you'll have to judge all other companies.. and it's completely pointless. Let's make it our project, to influence them to create better devices.. and hope they will. We are the largest mobile community in the world... if we can't have any effect on them... no one can.
[General Topics] samy.3660:
I totally agree, i have an omnia and none of the HTC's are closer to it, rather than sporting WM and having XDA support.
[General Topics] billu:
I doubt it, I am sure most of the iPhone brigade haven't even heard of HTC!
[General Topics] slick69:
The Touch Diamond is called a business phone by some people, and a "fun" phone by others. Regardless of what it is at this moment, it lacks video acceleration and a 3.5mm jack and good speakers.

Funny thing is, a good phone is good for everything - look at how many people were using the iPhone 1G for work even when there was no activesync or push support or any kind of corporate outreach by Apple. People recognize a good phone when they see one. :)

Huh. How is 30GB = 8GB?

Yes, and I hate to sound like a broken record here, but look at their track record - prior to iPhone = small sh*tty screens, bad design, low memory, 201Mhz processors. After the iPhone = big nice screens, better design, TouchFlo, 528Mhz processors.

Toshiba laptops unilaterally suck unless they're the expensive ones which are sold via business channels. This I know. But it is also true that their laptop division is not responsible for phones, and quality can be completely different from division to division in today's offshored, compartmentalized, globalized company.

How about I judge HTC because while they're mostly good, they sure could stand improving in some areas :cool:
[General Topics] Psygnosis84:
The Omnia doesn't have a 3.5mm, and your post at the beginning stating no HTC phone has 3.5mm, HTC Touch HD does, just buy the t8285 version to work with 3G in the US.

Also, your sig makes you sound like a Apple iTard.

You sound like you wanted to come into XDA developers and piss a few Microsoft user off thinking you can get to them by stating 3.5mm, but it back fired on you didn't it?
[General Topics] leobox1:
my touch HD works beautiful with a normal earplug
[General Topics] Georgeous2008:
I'm pretty happy with my Blackstone BUT there are two major things that suck:

1) no official TF3D upgrades (sure, I could flash third-party ROMs but why not make it easier ??);

2) no proper driver support.

The Blackstone hardware is far better than the 200 MHz Pentium MMX that I owned 10 years ago BUT together with HTC's slowware its performance comes down to that of a Commodore Amiga 500 I owned 20 years ago. :rolleyes:

It's the third-party developers who pay for HTC's lack of support. I'm pretty confident that, if there was no XDA community, HTC would already have followed Commodore's fate ... ;)
[General Topics] slick69:
Your words make you sound like a retard. I've been using Windows Mobile and HTC phones since 2003.

Anyway, yeah I don't really care about HTC on a fundamental level - they'll adapt as they need to. If they don't, I'm sure Palm, Samsung, Apple et al will be more than happy to eat their lunch whether it's because of 3.5mm jack or a clunky OS.
[General Topics] leobox1:
touch hd is indeed slow why is this so?
[General Topics] Rudegar:
"200 MHz Pentium MMX"

arm cpu's can't be directly compared to x86 cpu's

an arm 200Mhz is nowhere as fast as a x86 cpu

their architectures are very different

also a device is never faster then the software running

so if you run various .net compact framework apps and feel

they are sluggish then the issue is really more with compact framework

then it is the hardware or even os you run

also htc provide the hardware and customise the rom which is based on windows mobile

same with other wm device makers

if the hardware are the same

and the wm version the same

the 2 devices would run more or less

the same speed

of cause if the customisation don't include bloat which slow the device down
[General Topics] Georgeous2008:
I see you agree with me on that point. Of course, I agree with you, my comparisons are completely absurd and for a fact. However, it is also a fact that HTC does not focus enough on software to make their devices more attractive, who cares what the other WM competitors do, isn't Apple competition enough ? :D
[General Topics] toiletduk:
Not really, since Apple isn't competing for the same market that MS is. MS is interested primarily in competing with RIM for corporate use.
[General Topics] Psygnosis84:
Actually by saying you've been using WinMO since 2003 and making mistakes about features makes you the bigger retard here.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] j_mee_5:
oky i know that i will get lots of HATE bc i didn't search or what not.

but i did i did search but couldn't find my answer, and if i post up my question on the 6.5 thread how would people be able to read my question if like every 30 mins some one write something new in it right ?

so please just give me a answer if you guys have the time or know where i can find it.

oky 1st of all i love the 6.5 upgrade nfsfan you did a great job with this..

oky so here is my question i been looking for a program or a way to make my display words smaller. you know the home screen the tabs.

i found a theme that will do it and move every thing to the right instead of the left but i don't like that theme to much and you have to d.l. this and that and move this and move that and to much. i just want to be able to change the size of the tabs.

so thanks guys for taking the time to read this..
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saulo866:
I am running windows mobile 6.1 in a HTC device, Topaz Diamond 2

In settings > input method I see listed 6 inputs methods: Block Recognizer, Touch Input, A4<chinese char>, Transcriber, etc.

The chinese input method often comes out as a default choice, even if I deselect it and select Touch Input as my preferred one.

Basically I do not need A4 input method, as I am not chinese speaker: how to erase it permanently? How to remove this A4 input method completely?

Is it embedded in ROM (it comes pre-installed) and therefore I cannot delete?

Of course A4 input method does NOT appear in the list of installed programs (in fact no programs appear, as I have just done a hard reset)

I put my question here, since I believe this issue is a general purpose one, not related to ROM development. I apologize if this is the wrong forum

Thanks

Saulo866
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saulo866:
more details

for completeness: I am running wm 61 on HTC Topaz. The room seems to be:

wwe 1.40.707 04/20/09

Waiting for your suggestions on how to permanently remove this A4 input method.

Saulo866
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lcw622:
I'd say just hide it by (G4 Input Hide)

so u won't see it on the selection menu anymore

It's a PITA to remove input method....