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[Touch HD General] veehexx:
hey guys,

not sure if anyone knows the answer to this, or even if theres software available that will do this.....

i have the HD as a handset. it has wifi - we all know that.

my work has cisco VOIP system (SIP-based), that could be configured to allow traffic to our wifi network (or a new SSID setup for VOIP).

i know their is some SIP software out there, but apparently it disables bluetooth once installed - so this peice of software is no good.

HOWEVER, would i would like is when wifi is enabled and sucessfully connected and the SIP (VOIP) software sucessfully connects to the server, then all calls made are via wifi as default.

so, the questions:

- is there any software available that has the above features?

- would i need 'line2' enabled from my service provider?
[Touch HD General] Rudegar:
think fring support sip
[Touch HD General] veehexx:
that would be a good test platform, but i forgot to mention that i would prefer it to be intergrated into the existing dialer, rather than a 3rd party app.

somewhat like how 'video calling' is, but obviously via a pre-configured SIP service.
[Touch HD General] spud_work:
the last time i looked into this voip drivers for integration stopped the GPS function working (it has been a couple of months since i last checked though), so i use either agephone (paid app) or fring (free) for SIP calls, both of which will use the contacts on your phone.
[Touch HD General] veehexx:
not so much the contacts, it's the fact i have to load/switch to a 3rd party app to use SIP.

the app you used that disabled GPS, could well be the one i used. i remember it disabling one of the phones' featured that i used.
[Touch HD General] yohay:
X-Pro_Softphone_for_Pocket_PC_2.2.2
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] xenofire:
hi there.

i recently upgraded to HTCMAG_ROM_WWE_O1 however when i started it up i got the splash screen with the Bad Radio! error.

I tried updating to the wwe_02 and than wwe_03 roms. to the same affect. However since upgrading to wwe_03 i have gotten the No Radio! error. It runs fine and loads to mobile 6, however i obviously dont get the phone features.

I also tried updating the radio rom, both through usb. But to no avail. I've been trying to go the SD route however i am getting the following error:

pc->drive.total_lba=7A70

pc->drive.num_heads=2

pc->drive.sec_p_track=20

pc->drive.num_cylinders=1E9

pc->drive.block_size=200

pc->drive.features=0

pc->drive.RCA=1

pc->drive.drv_type=40000000

pc->drive.securedAreaSize=0

pc->drive.securityDrv=0

pc->drive.busWidth=1

pc->drive.erasedSize=0

Total card size=F4E000

************Add SD card record info is fail!

and on the unit it says:

Add record is error!

I just tried to ignore it and continued the steps but upon reinserting the SD with the modifiedradio rom nothing happened but another error:

Sections = 1 Now Allow

Update

any help or suggestions would be wonderful.

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[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Cotulla:
probably card is wrong, try another card.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] xenofire:
nope, apparently i am doing something wrong as its failed to work on 3 separate cards
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] xenofire:
i wonder if it is because i am using parallels xp on my vista. have there been any reported problems using xp emulation?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Cotulla:
try to clear to zero begin of card (1024 bytes for example) via WinHex.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] xenofire:
thanks for the help.

I decided to try to run a fresh install of htcmag_rom_wwe_01 through a xp machine rather than parallels and it went through great.

it installed the radio back to 1.12 and than i upgraded back to wwe_03 and everything seems a go! Im guessing that something was wrong with one of my parallels settings. Something minor that i wouldnt have noticed before.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] MusikMonk:
I'm glad to see you got it working! :D
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Euroman28:
If anyone here could get hold of a danish SDK language pack so they could create a danish language X1 rom with WM 6.5. I would donate money e.g. 20 USD for the that person who could or would create it.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] gtrab:
but... but ... but...

I thought it was DEUTSCH, not Dutch !!

:mad:

I don't have dutch SYS files but I do have a spanish ROM

heeeey, c'mooon, I know you learned a bit of spanish, wouldn't it be sufficient ??

:D:p:rolleyes:
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] LFCFredda:
He asks for DANISH = Denmark not deutsch, dutch or spanish :eek:
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] knudsen81:
I will join to donate some money to him what makes a danish 6.5
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] jerpelea:
hy all

i have for you an danish kitchen

for now only wm6.1 because there is no mui for 6.5 (i will update it as soon as i find one)

http://www.sendspace.com/file/pd67bm

for those that like my work here is the donation button

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=4300696
[G1 General] Binary100100:
I was looking for a couple of threads that I had recently bookmarked to go back to later on only to find that they weren't bookmarked anymore. I spent almost an hour searching for them only to find the one specific thread in the trash. No warning or reason was given. Why was this done? I can understand if it's a thread with only a single post or perhaps even one that has become outdated (like a Cupcake release date thread) but why a thread that has 4 pages of information for a topic that doesn't have any reference for it already? Isn't this going to just create more new threads? More e-mails? More questions? Isn't this defeating the purpose of posting a new thread about a topic that hasn't been posted or stickied, if it is just going to be deleted?

If you look in the trash you will find SEVERAL Dream threads. In fact... just on the first page HALF (TEN out of TWENTY) are from the Dream thread! So just to clearify... of the dozens of different threads for different phones half of all trash is for the G1??? Isn't the trash supposed to be for SPAM?

How are these spam (just from the first page)???

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=525564

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=524956

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=519591

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=525034

There are a few more of course but I can understand because most of the questions have been answerered and it would be faster and easier if these people used the search feature. But some haven't been. (example)

Instead of deleting the threads... merge them. But of course you get stuck with a 500+ page thread that MOST people will not read all the way through to see if the question they are about to ask has been asked/answered already. Which is of course why they post a new thread but guess what? It gets deleted and so another thread gets posted. It's never ending and I realize that this must be hard work for the mods.

So what to do?

I propose that instead of deleting these threads without reason or warning, to PM the original poster of the thread to ask of the significance of it and to provide a legitimate reason and purpose for it. Otherwise give warning or notice of the possible deletion. Of course this does not exempt the threads that are posting warez, copyright infringements and other obvious violations of memberships.

This is only my opinion and I hope that I have made an interesting point or two about this matter.
[G1 General] JanetPanic:
Look at the Sticky "Tough Love Moderation Alert". Basically the admins will lock/delete threads they think duplicate or off topic. I can't say as I agree with their method (no explanation) but there is a need to keep the threads under control. The development forum is the worst of the problem area but all the Dream forums have some abusers.

On the other hand it is leading to silly thread titles "[ONLY] something [ONLY]" (which is silly since people who would have posted off topic before still will) and confusion as well as "What happened to my last post" threads. Time will tell if their methods achieve their goal.
[G1 General] Binary100100:
Yeah... okay. I agree that some of the most annoying problems with the dream thread is that people do post in the ROM Development thread. But is deleting so much easier then moving to the "Dream" thread? If so, does it out weight the inconvenience of the possiblity of the same question being reposted because it was unable to be found by the search feature?

Say this post gets deleted... and it likely will be... and someone else notices the same issue... and they search to see if this has been posted. Will they find it? No. Because hardly anyone looks in the trash. So what do they do? They post it as a new thread. So what happens? A mod goes in and deletes that post. And it repeats over and over again until the mods stop deleting the posts. Then what? Nothing. The post stays and maybe even grows. Is it really a bother that a thread is over a month old and hasn't had any recent posts? Does it really bother anyone? Of course not! They just ignore it, right? So why go through all the trouble to delete it? Some of the threads in the trash are still useful and there is absolutely no harm in keeping it in the proper catagories (ie Dream, Applications, Themes, etc).

Any mod that simply deletes a useful and recently commented thread because it was mistakenly posted under the wrong catgory instead of simply moving it, is just lazy in my own personal opinion and is doing more harm then good. Again... just my opinion.
[G1 General] jashsu:
That doesn't indicate that what the mods are doing is necessarily wrong, it means that new members continue to disregard the rules (posting already answered questions, posting in wrong forum, etc).

That said, I think the mods need to reevaluate how and when they do thread merges. The form of discussion in forums like these tend to be "conversation" centric. However, the threads are presented in a flat format (by default). That means that merging two threads of identical or similar topics will cause their conversations to intermix, with disastrous results. People already have piss-poor reading skills as it is.
[G1 General] uberingram:
What do you expect the moderators to do? We didn't give them a choice. The Dream forums are out of control and it would take the 3 or 4 moderators for these forums 8 hours a day not being paid to police it. You want someone to blame? Blame your fellow XDA members because there are only 2 solutions for this problem:

Get more moderators to baby sit the forums or increase the quality of posting within the Dream forums. The later is what we need here and what the moderators are hoping for.

Edit: And honestly, I think this is the best method. Do we have the potential for losing good information? Yes. This is how you teach the multitudes of Dream posters that there are consequences for being ignorant. Being stupid is not an excuse.
[G1 General] NeoBlade:
It is pretty annoying how the Dream thread has exploded and that the same questions just keep on cropping up. When I reply I do try to either re-direct them to my signature (which has the basic links to Dude's ROM, SPL, Apps2SD, Radio etc), teach them how to search with the actual result or just point them to the right direction.

However with 500+ pages or whatever, it can become a chore for newbies to read though, even if 70% of the info is in the first page.

I did recommend to the mods that the Dream section needs cleaning up, with a dedicated sub forum purely for the established (or popular) cooked ROMs. So underneath the Dream Dev sub-forum is another just for JF, Dude, Cyanogen, Haykuro etc. That should remove quite a lot of traffic and usual questions then from what is supposed to be a general development thread for other matters.

Then I would suggest a much more organised and up to date FAQ in such a sub-forum which covers all of the same questions that get asked daily. Any such questions that get asked in any of the ROM forums would then be re-directed to the FAQ.

Most of us I'm sure have come from large forums (lik-sang, avsfoums, etc) and know how to search, read etc but many newer members don't, be it due to lack of effort etc. However I'm sure there are many genuine new members who are willing to learn that only need a nudge in the right direction. Simply blocking them off by trashing, linking them only to the search page etc isn't helpful and won't generate a positive community.

I would put myself forward to help moderate the Dream section but I know that zero mod positions are available at the moment, but I do agree with the OP that trashing isn't always the solution.
[G1 General] jashsu:
The main problem is that for the veterans who have been here since Sept/Oct 2008, everything more or less makes sense because they have seen it evolve to its current state. It's a lot like a guy who lives in a very very messy room who can still find the book buried under a pile of empty ramen cups and dirty laundry. Thus its easy to say "use the search!" in response to any newbie query. That said, from the first-timer newbie perspective, there are a few problems: 1) A lot of information crammed into two poorly organized subforums. 2) A lot of information is outdated and is superseded or contradicts newer information. 3) Some of the sticky threads have very poorly written or maintained first posts.

Sticky threads are not a very good way to store information for general consumption, unless the original poster is a very good communicator and also vigilantly updates the first post with concise information from the entire thread, no matter how long it is. Of the former sticky posts, few actually meet that standard. The ideal format for information conveyance is wiki, but then there is the disconnection between the wiki and active development. In other words, people don't like to move back and forth between the wiki and the forum.
[G1 General] NeoBlade:
I know what you mean jashu, I love my "organised mess" at home ^_^

It does take effort alright in keeping threads on topic and up to date, I remember when administrating the TokyoToys forum (I since had to close it, joint decision by myself and the owner) and also organising events for fans and people alike to meet up and have fun, took effort and more often enough without any recognition as well which can get discouraging.

Certainly if the OP kept his or her first post updated often enough with information it will keep questions down to a minimum however I still approve of a well made FAQ which is stickied. It then becomes a focal point as any FAQ should. I'm actually in the middle of writing one myself and once its done and the people concerned are happy with it, I would be happy to post it here too.

Ideally a wiki would be best because its user editable however I had a look at the XDA wiki and it does need a bit of TLC.
[G1 General] JanetPanic:
I will qualify my statement in that I come from the standpoint as an administrator in a prominent Linux forum that gets more posts in an hour in than the Dream forums get in a day. I firmly believe that draconian administration is not the answer and makes the forum far less pleasant to use. I think of administration as keeping things civil and posts in the right forum more than controlling creation of threads. Forcing the organization into a few mammoth threads is not any better than letting users create new threads without rules.

The developers forum is a bit of a mess and completely left to its own it would be worse than it is. The Development forum is not really about development anymore though. It more of a "custom ROM" forum. It is rare that I see an actual post on development on the android platform. Since the primary topic on the forum is custom ROMs the support questions for said ROMs get put in the development forum and generates a mess. Creating a ROM forum would just shift the mess, so I am not sure that would be better.

I think eventually the newbies who are flooding the forum with threads that could be answered by searching will either go away or learn to search. The current choice of administration is not educating the newbies though, it is just forcing them to learn. Regardless of how any of us users feel about the subject though the administrators have made their choice on how to deal with the Dream sub-forums. We are just along for the ride.

The thought that scares me more than any other is that the flood of newbies up to this stage could be just the tip of the iceburg. XDA-Dev before the last year or so was a forum for a fairly small group of people who generally know how to deal with their own problems. Lately the number of users with limited technical ability and desire have been increasing. This is partly due to the ease of having the Android platform, partly due to the fact that smart phones in general (including iPhone) are becoming much more mainstream. If android truly takes off on HTC phones then either the users will have to be forceful to new users to get them into line fast or the philosophy of the XDA-dev forums itself will need to change. Linux forums have a reputation for rude users, this is largely due to the veterans being unforgiving to repeated questions. Harsh but it does work over time.
[G1 General] uberingram:
This and the fact that it's brand spanking new. Give it time and the kids will find something new to play with and move on while the people that give a rats arse (us) will be left behind. I've seen it time and time again on car forums. This isn't any different. The first 6 months is bliss. The following 1-2 years is absolute hell. Then comes the volume drop off and the true development. I've all for tough love but it's not like the tide is ever going to stop. We are just going to have to wait it out.
[G1 General] NeoBlade:
There's always methods in dealing with issues and I do agree that its more of a ROM section than Development thesedays... Hence in my opinion it would be better off having a ROM section for such people to post on, which will clear up for people actually developling or helping to improve the android platform - Most notibly the Bluetooth OBEX support.

This isn't the fastest forum I've seen or been involved in in terms of volumes of posts, however it is getting to the point where re-structuring and possibly more moderators are needed to help ease the burden. When a large number of people register and start being active, it is often the best time to set an example and indeed set and establish a community where people help people - Be it to simple things as pointing them to the right direction to much more techinical issues.

Without the ethos to help each other, where would open source be?

Granted I know nothing about Linux myself and couldn't code to save my life but I do enjoy the technical discussions that take place. A lot of this is lost with the usual questions that get asked, hence the need for a more up to date FAQ. Tough love is needed but I believe with the right organisation, it shouldn't have to be the only answer.
[G1 General] mrcrs:
the G1 is the new sidekick. and the sidekick was such a fad and trend for kids to use as a phone. the hip hop and celebrity community did well in terms of marketing the sidekick to the mainstream public as being a "your not cool if you don't have one of these" items. also the emo/scene kids are all about what the "in" things and fads are, so that highly popularized the sidekick as well.

and now since the G1 came out, most of the people that got a sidekick for those particular reasons mentioned above, are now "upgrading" to the next newer cooler big thing.... the G1.

young people love to follow trends, fads, and what's cool at the moment.

right now, the G1 is just that.

it's a double edge for Android and the G1. the popularity is one of the key things needed to make Android and the G1 a success. but with popularity comes a lot riff raff and criticism that is not welcomed so well. but i digress lol

i just hope the sidekick comes out with a touchscreen version or something, so the kids have something new shiny to play with haha :)
[G1 General] NeoBlade:
Not owned a sidekick before but then I presume its more popular in the USA than it is in the UK? I moved to the G1 after my Nokia N95. Got impatient waiting for the N97 so made the jump and thanks to the incomplete stock OS, I was tempted to move back to my N95 until JF released his research, Haykuro and Dude. Now it feels more complete with only a few things missing.

Back on topic though, the place isn't as bad as it could be but since this is more a development forum to begin with and not a social based one, just a few tweaks here and there would help newbies a little.
[G1 General] mrcrs:
ohhh i have an idea...

like when you sign up you pick the phone and platform you use then instantly redirects the new member to a FAQ or pertinent threads associated to their liking of phone and platform and at the same time directly email them a link to those FAQ and whatnot.
[G1 General] uberingram:
Yeah, it's just how mrcrs described it. The Sidekick became quite the fashion accessory model when celebrities started picking them up. They are pictured all over the tabloids and mentioned a lot of times in up-start musician's songs. I doubt very much that it would have panned out this way if T-Mobile released the SideKick 3G before the G1 but then again, T-Mobile needed a victory and a halo phone really fast.
[G1 General] NeoBlade:
That would take a fair amount of modification to the forum files to do (I've done my fair share of phpBB, phpBB Plus, IPB etc) and also is on the pretence that every single mobile has a suitable FAQ to begin with.

And easier way and modification to the forum could be to send a general stock welcoming PM along with a reminder to search and any additional helpful links within. That is, if XDA wants to go down that route.
[G1 General] mrcrs:
whenever i join forums and in my inbox i get a message automatically, which is usually from the forum itself, i usually disregard it because all it is a "welcome to xyz forums... yada yada yada... enjoy your time here"

i usually don't open and read it, delete it then... go wreck havoc on finding out the information i want to know or read about. but that's just me :o
[G1 General] jashsu:
To get a glimpse of where Dream/Magic forum is headed, just look at the xda Winmo forums. "Development" in this case basically just means rom customization. It's already pretty much at that state here too. Of course if Android fulfills its promise of being a mainstream smartphone OS, there will be many more newbies here than there ever were on the Winmo forums (you don't see many kids rocking Touch Diamonds).

IMO there's nothing wrong with being a bit curt, especially in the "development" forum. This isn't an interactive tutorial, a hand-holding journey. Too many people seem to get the idea that the unsupported hacks enabled by rooting can be generalized and simplified for mass-market consumption. That kind of thinking is faulty and the resulting bad publicity may jeopardize the Android hacking community on the whole.

The problem is that in most cases, being rude only keeps away users who had initial reservations and cautions to rooting-- precisely the kind of user who actually might take the time to indepedently and/or responsibly learn how to do things properly.
[G1 General] JanetPanic:
:) I have been here since 2005 with the Blue Angel (then the Wizard, Jam, Magician, and the Artemis). Eventually XDA started dedicating a subforum to ROMs with the general development thread up top for WinMo development. The Dream right now just has the one combined forum. Another difference is that the ROM threads in Dream seem to grow faster than I remember on the WinMo threads. I am not sure what the difference is, maybe that usually there are a couple debug threads that die out which in the Dream forum is discouraged. Regardless the rapid posting makes it harder to keep up with more than one ROM.

I agree, well put.

Good point as well.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mactron:
I tried it for 4 hours now with the 1.43 ROM dump. How do I rebuild it?