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[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] usmc2k:
I went to use my camera to day and no matter what i did all my photos came out like it was in solar mode ??? Has anyone experienced this or know a fix ?? Im using JF 1.5 ADP1 Cupcake and ive already deleted snap photo...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] momentarylapseofreason:
Are those carpet samples?

Have you tried reinstalling Snap and setting it to the default?

Oh yeah... and nice flowers on the fridge. I see there's an arteest in the house
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] usmc2k:
LOL 1st off nice obsevations.... yea those r carpet samples I'm doin sum remodeln. I have tried everything n tha book un installed snap photo reinstalled it even went as far as to reinstall the stock camera.apk !? Is there a system file or somethn that I kan change ?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] momentarylapseofreason:
Very odd.... Sadly, this isn't like Windows where there are dll files laying here and there. My next step would be a wipe of the phone. Know that sucks, but I can't think of anything else really.

Have you tried contacting the dev for SnapPhoto?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] usmc2k:
no i didnt have snap photo as default when it happnd
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ronfar623:
I had a Microsoft webcam that started doing that, and it was a hardware problem with the CCD. I had to exchange it. You should maybe try wiping the device before you send it in though.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] mephisto20:
hi guys,

I tried to find out if there is a free solution to manage SMS on the device.

I have 400 SMS sitting in my Inbox and want to sort them now.

Therefore I would need some software to manage the in the device using my pc. May be some of you have an idea for a good soultion.

I have looked at Jeyo tools but the last time I used it it did not really work well plus it is not for free.

Does anybody know a good free solution or a workaround using some other software (like doing backup --> sort out on pc --> restore sorted folders).

thanks for the help
[G1 General] .PaNiNi.:
........................
[G1 General] Beast84:
You are just a chat a holic aren't you!?
[G1 General] .PaNiNi.:
you love it dont lie!!! and you will be in there lol
[G1 General] momentarylapseofreason:
I suppose this would be ok for kids that want to chat about when cupcake is coming out or Flash gets ported but the only "real" android chatroom is on irc.freenode.net.

PS... your color scheme is a trainwreck.
[G1 General] CBowley:
Eeew a myspace copy..
[G1 General] .PaNiNi.:
no need for hateration... if your not interested keep your negativity to yourselves. :-) thank you have a loverly day!
[G1 General] anddep:
ooOoOH! u just got served! lol

nah really suprised its able to work on the phone to chat.. (google widget chat)

oh are u able to log in to myspace chat with ur g1?(asking)
[G1 General] .PaNiNi.:
its not a google widget its connected to my site and its a non flash chat so it works with the G1 browser.
[G1 General] CBowley:
I haven't tried logging into myspace.. I'm all grown up now and I'm not into drama and I don't need to meet any myspace sluts. Facebook works though. :)
[G1 General] anddep:
lol just a joke, not meant to head into drama.. yea facebook does:D
[G1 General] CBowley:
Haha no

MYSPACE=

1. A way to find "myspace sluts" (usually sub-fifteen year olds)

2. A way for friends, ex's, ex's friends/family, people you don't know, to find out the next big thing to talk about (drama)

3. A huge effing waste of time. If everyone took their myspace time and invested it in something else (like porting roms) the whole world would be a better, more advanced place.

Wasn't saying that what you said was drama. Haha

(I am kidding by the way (even though what I say is true))
[G1 General] Senorkabob:
Good stuff... Did you ladies actually develop this? Or did the site give you wizards to do all this stuff?
[G1 General] .PaNiNi.:
its premade but i have the ability to make my own just not the time
[G1 General] the.snks:
Following the guide here: http://modmygphone.com/wiki/index.php/Caches_To_SD_Card I'm moving my caches to the SD card.

However, I get an error while doing the maps. At the busybox line, I get the error:

cp: cannot create symlink '/sdcard/cache/files/maps/files': Operation not permitted

I figured I'd just skip this step, and continued on with the rest of the commands. I now see the error of my ways. So you know, I JUST upgraded to JF's 1.5, and I don't have any other special mods going on (no apps2sd, no themes, etc). Just was looking to move my caches to the sdcard.

All commands were entered using the Terminal app on the phone, as I am not very familiar with ADB. I rebooted, and tried entering the commands again, same deal. Now, Google Maps force closes immediately upon launch.

Any ideas?
[G1 General] the.snks:
*bump*

Anyone? Is there an "undo" command of some kind I can use to at least get GMaps working again? I can worry about moving the cache later.
[G1 General] maxisma:
have you entered su for root rights?
[G1 General] the.snks:
Yes. I followed the instructions verbatim. I've done this same procedure before in RC33 and didn't have any problems (if that helps any).

Thanks.
[G1 General] the.snks:
Solved. Well, kind of.

I deleted the 'files' directory from 'cd /data/data/com.google.android.apps.maps'

Relaunched maps, and now it is working again. I will try messing around with moving the cache at a later time.

Thanks to all.
[G1 General] GTIChris04:
You should just download the app from the market, you obviously didn't do something right. :P
[G1 General] the.snks:
Download what app? And I know I've entered the right commands because I've done this before easily 3 or 4 times. It's just not working now.
[G1 General] beagz:
New location for maps cache is

/data/data/com.google.android.apps.maps/cache/webviewCache
[G1 General] the.snks:
Appreciate the help dude. What I did was remove the symlinks I setup (e.g. move the app caches back to the internal storage), and I'll just use a script to clear it out every now and again.

Honestly, I don't know why I didn't do that in the first place.

Mods, feel free to close this thread.
[G1 Android Development] jstutman:
I have (see post 3) on my Tmo G1 right now, and its time to wipe it and update, so I was hoping on some insight on what to use as of current.

Thanks
[G1 Android Development] jashsu:
?

Sure you're not referring to a T-Mo Wing?
[G1 Android Development] jstutman:
Hold on, Im just being retarded. I just searched my last topic I posted in...which was when I had the wing.

G1

Firmware: 1.1

Build: kila-user 1.1 Plat RC33 126986

Kernel: 2.6.25-01843 jesusfreke
[G1 Android Development] jstutman:
feel free to close this topic. I just got the info I needed by just searching lol

search always fails me
[G1 Android Development] djkdawg:
its weird, but i had the normal 1 gig stop working, even the computer wont read it with a card reader, so i said what the hell maybe they gave me a bad sdcard, so i bought an 8gb sdcard and it did the same, is their something im doing to cause this or does it only work on certain brands ??
[G1 Android Development] andonnguyen:
im assuming you mean apps2sd, you may need to reformat it again with paragon, or a similar partition program (such as g-parted on linux).
[G1 Android Development] Asswipe44:
When you say fry, do you mean you're not able to access it at all? I have tampered with my Transcend 8GB card quite a lot and found that it became unreadable after a while, but what I did was open up My Computer, right click on my SD reader and select Format even though it did take forever for the option to actually appear. Windows may sometimes make you think your card is done when it's not. Have patience and you can likely just reformat your card and start over without dishing out extra $$$
[G1 Android Development] Darkrift:
You used the 1g that came with the phone? Even though almost every guide on the matter says "class 6 only" and there is no way in hell any company is sending out 1g class 6 cards for free with a phone? Comeon man, you are killing the cards.
[G1 Android Development] anddep:
umm so did u just pop in the sdcard to the phone when first bought it? w/o anything on it, and it still didnt read? if it didnt, it might be an internal hardware problem.. if u had the sd ready for APP2SD, u must have partition the sdcard wrong.
[G1 Android Development] djkdawg:
yea i put it in normal and it worked fine but when i try appstosd method, it works fine, im a pro at instructions but it keeps messing up my sdcards, and no it wouldnt mount in my sd reader on the pc, but someone told me to wipe it down with some water and that seems to work, i think my sd thingy on the phone is dirty on the side, i will play around with it more when im off of work, stays for the ideas.
[G1 Android Development] MarcusMaximus04@gmail.com:
Oh. Dear. God.
[G1 Android Development] djkdawg:
lol i know marcus, your apps rocks, i also went back to ebay and found out mine was a class 2, that sucks i will have to buy another one, but i will make sure its class 6 8gb
[G1 Android Development] serialtoon:
LMAO! Did you really wipe it down with water?
[G1 Android Development] anddep:
water? wow.. that would be my last option when my sdcard wont read..

im on a class 2 app2sd.. everything is working good.
[G1 Android Development] djkdawg:
lol i didnt soak it in water, you know i wet a napkin and whiped the connections off and yea its been working fine every since, i guess it was dirty
[G1 Android Development] Mediocrates:
Try using 90% isopropyl alcohol, NEVER WATER, and a camera lens wipe, if you are going to clean electronics, and, as always, make sure there is NO electrical connection to any component or you may have a fire on your hands! I have revived a few cell phones by bathing them in the 90% solution, it removes water from a phone that's been dropped in a puddle, but make sure they dry completely before snapping the battery back in. It's cheap, and works great!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] onkolog:
Yessss)))it's me)))

You know why my ROM has worse parameters?)))I tell you)))because I don't use any new graphic drivers and all my tweaks was set in average parameters)))

But in my next ROM I'll include new graphic drivers...;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daeron.be:
Which version precisely? :)

It's hard to say why you scored worse than Dutty... But I guess if you'll study his rom, you might improve yours.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] onkolog:
)))HAHA)))I won't study his ROM because I have my head on my shoulders...maybe his ROM has better scores,but my ROM is bug freeeee:D)));)Also all benchmark tests always show different results)))If you do twice one test in one device you will get different results 100% sure)));)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] KukurikU:
sure are bug free...whats left of the original OEM or SYS. what ever could be a problem is out. forget about light, super light and hyper light and try to make a complete one. that's why is called cooking:p. the chefs are mixing tens of "ingredients", sometimes even different builds to get a good ROM.

chicken and water only don't make a good soup:D. add some vegetables, salt, noodles...all ingredients.:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] onkolog:
No my friend)))I cannot decide for you or for somebody how to live)))you must decide it for yourself;))))that's why I make ROMs only with necessary stuff and you GUYS can decide what you want see in your ROM...I made full ROM for russian users and if you know russian (probably you're not))) you can read feedbacks about my ROM and I give you 100% you won't find any bugs in it...It's same like I gave to XDA users,but it's russian languages

This is it - http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=119115

I'm mah in this forum;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Laurentius26:
New benchmark tool

Awsom to see these benchmarks, thank you for your work. :)

Grtz,

Leo :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cyphol:
Put one more. Topix 1.6.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] RobRedbeard:
You I have to say, although I usually run Dutty, and the one time I tried to run Laurentius' ROM it complained to me every 5 seconds that my network wasn't in the database (it's only the largest cell network in the world), these results actually make me want to try Laurentius' ROM again. It looks like he won to me. Close but behind on things that were very short, either close or ahead in some important things, like opening 100 10k files (sounds like Manila), that's where I'd like to shave off a few seconds. 10ms for writing one long file doesn't matter much. I call this a tie for Laurentius and Dutty, at least at first glance. Especially since Dutty's didn't finish every test.

Rob
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] KukurikU:
there is a 1.6.1 already;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] port2life:
nice work

dutty may be the fastest rom, but so buggy

i'm using many dutty's vesion, even dutty V3.3.

just try miri 6.5 v12 1 day ago, not found any bug and feel faster than dutty
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kieboy:
Are they both using the same contents on the Manila? Meaning the miri rom has the HTC dialer already with video call options?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] AndyCr15:
How is Dutty's concluded to be the fastest? You need some kind of scoreing system surely?

Do some tests carry more weight than others though?

Please test Davideuck's v6.1 ROM. I always find his the smoothest.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Good work man on these benchmarks. Always nice to see comparisons between the roms available ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] zuadao:
lets not forget they keep releasing roms to correct some things i believe miri passed from v10 to v12 in less than a weak.

dutty will launch 3.4 in the next hours lets see how it goes.

right now i´m using topix 1.6.1. very nice rom gona keep it for now :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mitut:
Don't know but last time i used dutty rom , everything run smooth at first but then i try to install some other apps , my phone became really slow for some application and cost a lot of ram.

Actually i like the idea of onkolog :) everybody should choose things they need in their fone using his superlight for more than 2 weeks with a lot of application installed but still very smooth and stable.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] KukurikU:
lol! comparisons are illegal and strictly forbidden here;)

i do not see any comparison. i see benchmarks. everybody is free to interpret the data and choose for himself. that's the right way to do it.

thanks again to the saint/noble soul/donor/kamikaze that sacrifice his HD to the good of all community:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
LOL, thanx for correcting me mate! DOH!! Yes benchmarks would be the better or correct way to say it. What I meant or what I should have said was its nice to compare the benchmarks provided.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daeron.be:
I've created some scoring system, please commend on it! :)

I'll post Topix 1.6.1 results soon...

I'm also waiting for Dutty... :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Interesting comments regarding speed of some rom's against your benchmarks. Also scoring system will be useful for a lot I'm sure.

Keep up the good work mate!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kemsou:
Error in formula

Dear Daeron, I'm sorry to insist...:rolleyes: but column Q is still missing in the overall performance counting.

Regards,

Kemsou
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daeron.be:
Err... My bad, sorry ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Why are some of the ROMs bordered in color?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daeron.be:
That's a feature of Google Docs - you see what cell has some other user clicked.

BTW I've updated the OP.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lynne02191:
Thank you for ur benchmark!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daeron.be:
I've added Topix 2.2.3 benchmarks provided by MAMeingast, thx!

Btw I kindly ask somebody to test "Vanilla Series Topaz final" by kwbr ;)

BTW: I've updated OP. Important update!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobsbbq:
Yes it does make a difference. Different builds contain different packages, drivers etc. To make a premium version work you might have to add many different packages to get all the new Topaz and Rhodium stuff to work. A lite version might have only basic stock Blackstone Packages and drivers. You should update the sheet as to what each ROM build is.

Also I'm glad to know I'm also the Cook for the Martini series. "ERROR"
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
Daeron, maybe you should add the following to the FAQ - the ranking is taken far too seriously by some... ;)

7. How significant are the differences in overall performance?

When benchmarking ROMs, the results are never constant. Even when testing the same ROM on the same device several times a certain amount of variance can be detected. Therefore every tester will have slightly different results! This also means, that differences in the overall performance of two or less percent points are pretty much insignificant and just the result of fluctuations!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] yo3gjc:
Hi Daeron

Maybe a very good ideea is to include also stock HTC ROMs to consider it as a baseline.

Tnx
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daeron.be:
I've added one already, but it didn't score well...

If you're really interested, do benchmarks yourself and send me results to include them :) There's a method described in OP.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dany20mh:
daeron.be ,

Thanks For This Good Work , But I Think There Is A Mistake In This Column " color blending (MORE IS BETTER) "

Some ROM ( Like Miri 18 , Dutty 3.8 , ... ) Have A Big Different With The Other ROM , Please Check This .
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daeron.be:
Fixed, thx ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dany20mh:
dearon.be ,

Thanks For Solve Last Problem , And Now I Found A Little Problem And I Have Request For You :

In The List , At Column Name " Cocker " , Some Cocker Name Have 2 Name , For Example , kwbr Have 2 Name " Kwbr & kwbr " And For This Problem , We Cant Compare All Of kwbr ROM Release .

You Add The Cocker Column , And Its Very Good , Please Add A New Column Name " Windows Version " , And With This Column We Can Compare Each Windows Release ( 6.1 Or 6.5 ) Separately .
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] pzucchel:
I cannot see the two names...cheers!..but the windows version suggestion is a good one...:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
He is talking about the fact that "kwbr" is sometimes written in small letters and sometimes the first letter is capitalized... If you want to sort by cooker to be able to compare the ROMs created by kwbr, you can't compare them, because the capitalized ones are listed seperately... ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] zuadao:
hi, can you guys pls benchmark the new roms from kwbr and dutty pls??

it´s the topix 2.3 HD from kwbr

and the 3.9 from dutty

thx a lot for all the hard work, keep it up ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] pzucchel:
....and kwbr 2.3.1....

unfortunately, i have the impression that new roms come up too rapidly for few persons spending their free time. If somebody would be interested in developing it, we would ideally need a cab that automatically compute perfs and upload them to a server, to be launched when you install a new rom...

(Yes, i want to keep this thread in the first page of the forum)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] houms:
any automation are welcome

Yes, you are right, it's really time consuming and good rom cookers work hard to generate a lot of job for us ! :-)

So even a cab which will do automatically the init steps described by Daeron would be welcom:

2. Go into airplane mode

3. Disable switching screen off and turning the blackstone off

4. Disable all today screen apps and plugins etc

5. install benchmarking apps

6. reboot (soft-reset)

8. run SPBbenchmark : disable external software tests like word and IE or file explorer (whole category)

9. run TestOpenGL for about 3 cycles of benchmarks (each cycle is 4 benchmarks) and then turn it off

the collect of result is quite easy as the XML file is directly open able in Excel.

I already send some updates to Daeron and hope he will publish them soon.

Thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sonydesouza:
No difference between 2.3 and 2.3.1...Only a fix for a prog and a new bootscreen...:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daeron.be:
I don't think anyone will do such cab file. It'd be very hard, if not impossible.

If you wonder why newest Laurentius roms are performing so badly in 3d benchmarks (testopengl) i've got an answer - its because of GFX Boost enabled by default. We test roms in default configs, only proceding as written in our method.

I've added several roms benchmarked by houms, enjoy.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] houms:
Where is this GFX Boost enabled parameter?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fwt:
Maybe Mortscript could handle this ... but i also think it will be hard to start a EXE from an cab.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vanzelvoul:
I would like to see a Panoshas rom here in comparison with the others!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] KukurikU:
topix 2.2.1 is no 3 AND no 11 :confused:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
Yes... And the results are 92.86% vs. 93.76%. As stated before, that is well within the range of fluctuations when testing the ROM - a difference of less then 1 % doesn't mean anything!

Don't just look at the rank a ROM has - the rank means nothing if the Overall Performance doesn't mirror a significant difference between the ROMs!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daeron.be:
It's usually in settings or in programs menu. :p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Checked, thank you. :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Does this mean your next rom will be top of the poll? ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Who knows. ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] LewxX:
Very great Thread !!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daeron.be:
I've added new top rom - Barebone v2.5.

And I've used results provided by the cook himself - JohnPatcher. Well, if you think he cheated, run the test by yourselves. I guess houms will do his test soon...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
One little thing to admit: Before running the tests I've closed down ActiveSync using Task Manager, as it gets started every now and then :(.

I will provide some screenshots, when reflashing my ROM, as I have installed a couple of application right now :(. I invite everyone to re-check my results, as it might be un-reliable to take results from the cook itself. I've also said this to daeron.be, while sending him my results.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Ok, I've redone the test, and I'm quite sceptic about the benchmark methods right now :(.

Although there are tests that were running even better, there are also some that were running significantly worse. Especially the graphics tests seem to be strange?

Once again, I invite everyone to redo this as often as possible to get reliable data.

I've attached my new results, which should be quite the same in overall, but as said the tests itself went totatally different. I've also added a screenshot, just in case :).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daeron.be:
Well, I hope it's obvious for everyone, but that's why we run tests after soft-reboot to get "cold start" results, because rerunning tests might improve them, and in practically longer we run testopengl test, better results are, that's why in method there's written to run these tests for about 3 cycles.