yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G1 General] Mast3rmatt:
Its a incomplete Build. Stop complaining you shouldn't even have it for it was leaked.
[G1 General] 4treyu:
But why? I think he has to calm down regarding these matters. Would that be his fault if someone gets ahold of the hero rom? it's not like they got it directly from him, plus AFAIK he hasn't published it. I agree with someone who wrote a few posts ago: it's impossible to keep these roms from being leaked. And anyways, everyone here knows that Haykuro is the real thing and that he deserves all the credit, we will be all waiting for his official release.
[G1 General] fleshdeep:
Someone leaked his hero rom and it was a total failure. It corrupted my sdcard. Good thing for nandroid. Wait for official release.
[G1 General] haykuro:
i provided them with these roms for various reasons. HardDaez received it because he promised me a Rogers ROM. turns out he was a fake.

i can easily, and have, stop the leaks.

no more handing out roms, and no more dedicating hours to this community. for what?

it seems as if you guys don't care so much about the quality of the product, but the label. "Hero Rom!" and you guys go running.

i don't care for anyones respect, anyones money, anyones anything. i have been sharing with the community for everyone to enjoy and learn a thing or two. but if that is taken for granted, the fact that i am willing to share these things with everyone, then why should i bother?

i am becoming more and more discouraged the more i read through all these pathetic posts.

i understand now why no one else has bothered dedicating themselves like i have. it's pointless.
[G1 General] Vision77:
Dweller88 refer to post 937....... I actually agree with you on the patience thing....but I did not say we would never see a hero rom on the g1. I just don't think its good for us because now Haykuro has to be fall back and be more reserved. He may have to tighten his circle a bit.(speculation) In light of his recent tweets....It would definitely be a great loss if he does not release any builds in the future
[G1 General] tehseano:
@ People complaining about options not working, goto a stable build. This is NOT complete. You're not that special, when its ready, it will be ready. You want everything to work? Again, use a STABLE build.

@ People complaining about the ROM being removed: People's JOBS are at stake. Hero is not supposed to be leaked, fortunatly Haykuro has some friends in higher places. With all these people now spreading it everywhere, its traceable. Meaning if some other HTC employee happens to see it, they can tell that it came from "So and So's" phone. So in the interests and respect of Haykuro, his friend(s), and the community: Shut up.

No one should even have Hero right now. If "roms are going to get leaked no matter what", then go find them yourself. You should feel lucky that Haykuro even decided to share this with any of you.

I feel like I'm standing around 200 10 year olds at a candy store, "GIMME MORE GIMME MORE". Stop posting all of these off-topic comments and go find somewhere else to complain.
[G1 General] fleshdeep:
I appreciate the hard work and time put into this kind of stuff. The main thing you all need to remember. Nobody HAS to do anything. Haykuro can tell you all t fu@k off and guess what? You probably will.
[G1 General] matt_stang:
Pretty much everyone has donated to you. And EVERYONE has used your ROMs and given you feedback and thanks. Everyone is flocking to the leaked hero ROM because they just want a taste. Just like all the other buggy, unfinished ROMs you've put out just to give us a taste. We're all still waiting because we all want your hero ROM because it will be the best. This leaked ROM is just passing the time for those of us who hate waiting. I for one have not had a chance to flash the leaked ROM, though I'd still like to just to try it out. Then, of course, flash back to the Ion ROM that YOU provided. I understand where your coming from and I understand your frustration. I just thought you might need to see things from a different perspective. It's up to you whether to keep developing for this community or not. But I think you're wrong about this situation.
[G1 General] ynghova187:
ok im beyond confused this rom has been out for like 3 days now. What is diffrent from the new leaked rom than the one we have had for 3 days now. Im sorry if this is a dumb question but I am lost why are people getting upset about it now.
[G1 General] mr2man07:
You have a point, and I completely agree with you,

@Whiny people: These ****ING IDIOTS, and yes you can flame me all you want via PM, that never shuts up about the constant issues with the SPL, the Hero's lack of this or that is ANNOYING. YOU tried the hero rom knowing it was beta, and you sit here and ***** and moan that its not complete.

@Haykuro, your work is appreciated greatly, but the constant teasing of all of these videos is making a lot of people into an angry mob. Theyre getting desperate and impatient, can you really blame them for wanting something new? Not to say you should stop making videos, as they help show us whats to come, but come on, see it through our eyes. We (or a lot of us) are sick of the default interface and are dying for something that is atleast from this century as far as designs.

This **** is annyoing, and excuse my language but I am pissed off and furious with all of this complaining. Who the hell would want to release **** for a bunch of whiny little babies on a forum that do nothing but complain about a leaked ROM that wasn't even meant to be released?

/end rant:mad:
[G1 General] Mast3rmatt:
Someone is updated the fixes to the old build even thou most of them have been fixed in the future builds but because of ------ its not going t0 get released anytime soon
[G1 General] Razor1973:
I really do not get what's going on here and I am sure there are good reasons behind haykuro's frustration, but I feel it's a bit unfair to call this community ungrateful when many of us idealize him, his work and dedication and I have seen people who cannot afford to and yet have donated as many as three times.

Developers stand up for their work and so they should, especially if they are providing their results for free and for the betterment of the community. However, the community in this case seems quite responsive and respectful of these developers or, at least, that's my take on things from following all these threads and seeing how some people stay up all night following haykuro's twitter just so they can enjoy his next great achievement, offer praise and donations that obviously mean his work is not in vain or unappreciated.

Yes, most will also come and share that feature X doesn't work and feature Y seems incomplete, but this is by no mean criticism. I personally share these so that maybe someone more knowledgeable can tell me what I'm doing wrong or suggest a way to work around the issue. Also to report a bug that may have gone unnoticed so that maybe it is addressed in a future build. If the developer or someone with more knowledge of the build than me tells me that's the way the build behaves for whatever reason, that's all I need, as I am aware I am working with a beta build, but is there really something wrong in asking?

Like I said, I don't get it and haykuro's frustration confuses me.

Come on, fellow Floridian. We are just 20 minutes away. You want me to bring you something that will make you feel better? No more Nesquik for you! LOL
[G1 General] haykuro:
By the way people are thinking.. this means that because i see a brand new shiny thing on TV i have the right to go out and steal it.

what's that? new iPhone coming out! man, i should go grab one right now? Why? Because i'm impatient! Apple showed me a teaser, that makes me anxious! It's unfair! I should be allowed to have one!
[G1 General] Mast3rmatt:
People are also taking Haykuro build and releasing as their own build.
[G1 General] DMaverick50:
lol 'end rant'. i like that.

I have read every post in this thread, there are only a few that sound like complaining. The rest are posts about what the rom lacks and what can be done about it. Im a little confused as to how this is discouraging to Haykuro but, then, i am not smart
[G1 General] ynghova187:
So let me get this straight its because people are trying to fix the already leaked rom. Is that what this is all about. I thought someone might have leaked the one with rosie ui. But if this is about the leaked rom getting fixes i dont understand what there is to be mad about.
[G1 General] matt_stang:
...if it's as easy as just clicking "download" to have it, who wouldn't do that? Thats like putting a chocolate glazed donut down in front of someone and walking away and expecting them not to eat the donut. People don't think of the word "stealing" when it's as easy as a 5 minute download. I think someone would have to go quite out of their way to steal and unreleased iPhone...
[G1 General] tribalb:
guess it doesnt ';[
[G1 General] robpet2:
dont worry about the impatient people.. I am def one of the ones that cant wait for the rom to be released, but if its not out yet in a fully functional version, and cant be released due to the reason in which you stated, i can wait.. there are other roms that can be flashed and tested to see which one suits us best.. it would be nice to have it early, but hell tmobile/google hasnt even gotten cupcake out to everyones phones yet!! so if the non rooted people can wait I think we can respect Haykuro wishes until he can release it with out getting himself in trouble...

stop biting the hands that feed you @ at all the idiots that want to try and flame haykuro, or steal from him...

in due time we will have a better hero release with more features.. the more time haykuro gets to play with it and tweak it himself...

It will also cut down the numbers of bricked phones, corrupted sdcards from the fake roms that the thieves are posting..
[G1 General] thelamacmdr:
The leaked rom was just that a LEAK, nobody should really have it and whoever did leak it has thier jobs at stake (which are really hard to come by and it must be a good job if you have access to HTC's ROMS). I understand Haykuro's point of view on this and wouldn't be surprised if someone comes in and says "Screw you Haykuro, I give the population what they want and don't care what the consequences are". To make this post have some relevance to the Hero Rom, so HTC can still track the ROM by checking the SHA1 sums of the files in it? Also, would the Hero Rom still use the 1.5 sdk?
[G1 General] Razor1973:
If this is really the case, then that's screwed up, but compare the number of "people" in your statement to the number of people who know, follow and respect haykuro's work. Should a couple of idiots tarnish the reputation of this community and frustrate developers to the point of simply giving up?

But I still don't quite get it. Are you saying that this very thread is wrong in haykuro's eyes?
[G1 General] Six6Sicks:
Really? Then remove your "If you like my work, feel free to buy me some Nesquik" paypal link and/or give every donation that you received back.

I understand your frustration, but you gave this to someone you didn't know and it turned out to be a fake? Ummmm yeah, that's not

our

fault.

You might be a respected member on this forum, and I can see why, you do great work with your roms, but who are you to come on to this thread and talk to people like this? I agree with the fact that this rom being out and free could cause someone to lose their job, and as I stated a few pages back. I have no problem waiting, but don't come here bad-mouthing people when you gave the rom away to an unknown/untrusted source.

I don't really care if I get bashed for this, or even banned. Every rom/fix/tweak from this forum can be found on 10+ other forums.

You, Mr. Haykuro, need to go take your frustrations out somewhere else.

I used to respect you, but you don't care about respect......most 17 year old punk kids don't..........
[G1 General] mr2man07:
Its just like Windows Vista, Windows 7, etc being leaked. Everything is eventually leaked, its the nature of the beast. You got a leak, that got leaked, sounds ironic doesn't it? Pictures, software, data etc everything has a leak sometimes.

iPhone 3.0 beta stuff comes out and people were scrambling to flash it, just like us with Hero, its the joy of something new. None of us are going to go out and "buy it" just because we see it on TV. If you are saying that we are sheep for wanting to buy stuff on TV because we see it, does that mean we are sheep because we donate to you in hopes of getting the Hero build released sooner? I mean sure you have contributed FAR more than I ever have to the community, and I respect that, but you can't expect to release a video of a revolutionary thing for android and NOT expect us to get psycho ;) The ones that leaked it weren't trying to steal credibility, I have a feeling its more about the spotlight than anything else. They are just trying to shut us up and let us get a taste of the stuff we have been going crazy over. Even though it made things worse, the part of the community that wanted it, got it, and I haven't complained one bit about it and I am loving even the slightest UI improvements found in Hero.

Keep up the good work, and if you decide to call it quits, you will still be known throughout XDA for your effort and work, so once again, thanks for your support for things that I have yet to achieve the skills to complete! :D
[G1 General] Pinesal:
I don't know the right thing to say here...

I think, Haykuro, you would be justified in keeping Rosie and quietly disappear and work for the good of yourself.

EDIT: Then again it seem silly to be angry about someone leaking a rom that you yourself are leaking.
[G1 General] 4treyu:
I just think you're overreacting, there will always be trolls on the internet forums, there will be always be fakers, there will always be leaks, it's unstoppable and you have to learn to live with it. There are mechanisms to fight these things (not stop them completely), like moderators against trolls, not trusting everyone over an internet chat or blog who promises something in exchange of something of yours, etc. But all these "plagues" wont make us desist from waiting for your finished and polished release. If some of us want to try some crappy alpha (posing as beta) leaked build it's our problem (I don't do it myself, I've been using Dude's for the last 3 weeks and just went to try JF's US 1.5 for a day).

Again, it's up to you if you want to continue or not with your great contribution to the Android community and we are going to to respect your decision.
[G1 General] justanothercrowd:
Why don't you take off that nice fast ION ROM your running that Haykuro made available for us.

In fact why don't you contribute something to the community besides and attitude...since we all know we have enough of that to go around. We don't want or need yours.

You obviously fail to understand simple logic if you can't grasp that no one else besides JF has the skills Haykuro has. And that what Haykuro has given us had allowed people with lesser knowledge to pick apart and find hacks/tricks etc. We do need people like Haykuro....

If all we had were folks like you we'd have nothing!!!!!!

I'd like to see someone on another forum port an android ROM from another device to the G1....good effing luck.
[G1 General] justanothercrowd:
And Haykuro...Please keep people's jobs safe.

End-users are scum anyways.
[G1 General] manup456:
He is pissed for the same reason JF is gone now and i'm not around here like before. The reason is people want and want and dont care what the people creating these roms and themes go through to get you this stuff it's not fare respect and appreciation is payment not people complaing that thing dont work on a leaked build. This stuff is not as easy as it may seem and i dont speak for all but they know who they are.
[G1 General] slyfury:
Gotta love E -Tough guys
[G1 General] haykuro:
you're right. it is my fault. and i took blame already.

speaking out of anger, of course things always come out wrong. but whatever. what's been said has been said.

all i CAN say is i wouldn't have been so angered if someone who had seen it had reported the incident 19 pages ago (the leak thread grew in a matter of minutes.)

like the previous leak, i didn't care. i didn't mind the fact that it got out. I was trying to give it to you guys for a month now. someone else did it, great, fine. i told everyone i'd even help them out with getting it to work. (but mods locked that thread for some reason?)

but, anyone who claims to have "respect" for me clearly doesn't when they figure "i'll throw money at him and he'll give me the rom."

i thank, and can't thank enough, the people who donated to me (you helped pay for various struggles my family is going through right now.) but people were donating $5 with comments like "heres ur money, can i see the rom" that.. is just ridiculous.

i'm sorry if i offended anyone but put yourself in my shoes.. someones job is at stake, and it's my fault. why is that the guys who tried helping you all out in the fist place have to take the **** end of the stick? (everyone else instigating the incident is at more blame than the leaker himself.)
[G1 General] ynghova187:
Every Community has leaks. HTC is no stranger to leaks the rhodium rom was leaked like 4 months before it was even released on the touch pro 2. Windows Mobile 6.5 has been out forever and it is just now getting offically relased. My point is leaks happen thats how the game is played and for pretty much all of us on this board thats where the fun is. My point is If you dont release it someone else will. There already have promo videos out for the hero so im guessing demo units will be all over the place soon. All im saying haykuro just relax man. 95 percent of the people in here have nothing but repsect for you.
[G1 General] mr2man07:
This happens with EVERYTHING. I busted my ass bringing the network at work up because one of the other techs ****ed up and wiped the configs off of all of our routers. i was up from 9AM working a regular day till 4:30 AM, this is not a comparable time to your contributions, but when I went to work the next I had only my boss say thank you. Did I care that nobody else said thank you? Did I just give up because I had 50 emails *****ing that the network was down? No, ****, I didn't even have to go into fix it, I volunteered like you guys.

The Linux community is a very similar thing. Thousands of developers help make Linux what it is, but they did it for respect, even when new people or the community were hassling them to release this or that.

Look we all respect your work, I loved your stuff ManUp, but all of this "we don't have to put up with your ****" talk is something a lot of us knew from the beginning. Its part of pleasing crowds. I mean I can give you more examples of people wanting more if you want lol:D

O ya, and JERRY!!! JERRY!!! JERRY!!!!
[G1 General] Pinesal:
Whoo, felt good to let out some steam, get things off our chest... :o

So, Haykuro... we cool? :cool:

Ah heck gimme a hug :D
[G1 General] justanothercrowd:
OMG!!!! you think I'm tough. I love you!
[G1 General] jawnsixteen:
I usually don't say much around here, but I'm going to say this and I hope Haykuro reads this.

Firstly, I can't believe how ungrateful, immature, and disrespectful some of the last few posters in this thread have become. This kid puts his heart and soul into this stuff just for your benefit and when he reprimands someone for lying to him, you have something to say? Really? You guys need to show a little respect to someone who has done so much for these boards. Do you remember how fast we got the Ion roms? Did you already forget?

Guess what, all of this excitement and hope that currently electrifies the community is because of Haykuro. He has become a homegrown hero. His constant updating and his hard work has led to some great things in this community. Not to mention how busy he is in school.

And to Haykuro: In this situation, you have the right to be as upset as you want to be. But remember, when you raise this much excitement people are going to do things that morally they shouldn't do. I, myself, appreciate your work, and would really appreciate it if you continued your developmental efforts. There's nothing like catching a good twitter update from you in the middle of the day.

I say all of this because I care about the community and the great things to come. It would be terrible if it all came crumbling down now because past actions.

Oh and honestly, his age has nothing to do with it. He's acting a lot more mature then you at this point.
[G1 General] Henchman:
then go back to a working 1.5 ROM.
[G1 General] Henchman:
Hmmm, I have a better idea.

Why don't you show us YOU'RE HERO ROM, or just leave.
[G1 General] Razor1973:
Sure, while you read the next 3 pages of this thread after that comment you replied to. Ready, set, GO!
[G1 General] Six6Sicks:
I totally understand your anger. I too am one to say things I might not mean (ask my girlfriend). I was just upset cause you were trashing a lot of people on here (like me) that just come on, look for the newest/coolest thing to upgrade to and I felt I had to stick up for us little guys.

I ain't madatcha.

Cool? Good.

as for justanothercrowd, you are extremely E-tough. I put a fence in front of my monitor after reading your post, I was worried you might jump through and do physical harm to me. lol.

I'm now calm again.

I <3 you all.
[G1 General] GOVATENT:
For the people that get mad because he posts videos to show us, I am happy he does this. I understand he can't release the roms, but it's nice to see the videos because it shows he is working on it and making progress. Once he can release the rom, I look forward to playing with it.
[G1 General] Henchman:
Seriously.

I tried the ION, and just wasn't that blown away yet.

Why not just use the optimized 1.5 ROM here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=518851

It's really fast. And things work.

I personally am waiting for the full Hero build.
[G1 General] froesei:
I think everyone needs to just chill out on here. For the 4 years I've been on this forum, people are for the most part respectful and helpful. And in every forum, whether it's windows mobile, or now android, there are always a few "star" developers that people come to trust and expect great things from. And really, that's what makes this forum great. Stuff on here is cutting edge, and ahead of the curve. And it would be shame to lose that.

Not everyone is a talented developer on here, and those that aren't need to understand that without the ones who are, there wouldn't be a whole lot of reason to be here. I have no where near the skills of some people on here, but when I can help I can, and when someone helps me I say thank you. But the level of entitlement on here has gotten out of hand, IMO, and we all just need to relax.

Yes, leaks are a reality, and will always happen, but to be obnoxious about it and start expecting that you have a right to get it is ridiculous.

The other thing that kind of bothers me, and perhaps I'm guilty of it too, is the "hero worship" (no pun intended) that seems to have started. Haykuro is just a regular guy like the rest of us, who happens to be really really good at programming. But the constant fawning and pawing over him only adds to his stress I'm sure, and quite frankly is kind of embarrassing.

Just my $.02
[G1 General] Razor1973:
I have tried every single ROM out there, almost every single version released. At this point, this is my favorite, except for the lack of Bluetooth. I will just wait patiently until a more official ROM is released.
[G1 General] mr2man07:
Ya I did that as a joke a while ago but I am starting to suspect some people have shrines of Haykuro in their closets and it's kind of creeping me out...:eek: