yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] pbmestre:
HTC has realesed a Hotfix for TP's GPS problems...

Still haven't test it, but what have you, Chef's, to say about it?...

On HTC's Support page:

Software Download

This software is suitable for the following devices : HTC Touch Pro

Hotfix for resolving difficulties finding or locating a position when using GPS for HTC Touch Pro Release Date: 2009-05-25

If it is difficult to find or locate a position when using GPS, please download this hotfix to solve the problem.

Installation Instructions:

Follow the instructions below to download and install the hotfix on your device:

Make sure you have Microsoft ActiveSync® installed on your Windows XP PC or Windows Mobile Device Center on your Windows Vista® PC. You can find Microsoft ActiveSync from this link or Windows Mobile Device Center from this link.

Connect and synchronize your device with your PC via Microsoft ActiveSync® or Windows Mobile Device Center using the USB cable.

To download this hotfix select the hotfix below and the location closest to you then click Download.

Copy the hotfix, which is an .exe file, to your device. To install the hotfix, tap the .exe file and follow the on-screen instructions.

Note: If you perform a device hard reset, you will need to reinstall the hotfix after the hard reset.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] X2D:
So where did this come from? Would be nice to have more information than what you've currently posted, please elaborate..
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] thesilentnight:
In addition, most of the newer roms have the aGPS working, so the gps issue is a moot point.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Da_G:
Which GPS problem I wonder, I can think of 4, one being aGPS (which works great now after 5.08 AT&T)

There's also the issue of 'speed lag' and then the issue of 'position lag', and finally the issue of 3rd party gps programs not showing satellites/losing fix every xxx seconds/etc.

/me snags the goodies
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] pbmestre:
Updated first post...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] B4PJS:
Anyone actually worked out what this does yet?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Da_G:
Ok, so this installs cleangpsdata.exe to \Windows (same ver that can be found on blackstone and other stock msm 72xx ROMS)

It copies a link into \windows\startup (same as the cleangpsdata package from blackstone does)

The functionality of the cleangpsdata program is simple, it opens the GPS0: hardware port and sends an IOCTL to wipe out the stored epheremis and other cached data in the chipset's NVRAM.

The problem this is intended to fix would seem to be extremely long startup times for gps (due to bad cached data that needs to be cleaned out)

With aGPS functioning it should have no effect; without aGPS it should only have an effect if your cached gps data gets corrupted for some reason and a quickgps re-download/re-inject won't fix it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] majkeljj:
i'm wondering if it's works with WM6.5
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] B4PJS:
So as a chef, would you recommend cooking in this fix and executing it in config operator or just cooking in clean gps and creating the startup link in app.dat??
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Da_G:
Same effect either way (cleangpsdata as a package, i.e. from blackstone or this hotfix .exe)

I used to cook it in prior to aGPS being fixed.

Also, there's no relation to WM 6.5 with this hotfix, it talks to gpsdriver.dll, which is compiled independantly of the OS.

In addition, if you snag the latest HTC GPS Tool, there's a "Cold Start" menu option in it - sends the same IOCTL!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] zenithcoolest:
I do not use aGPS and am a bit scred to install this hotfix :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Daemos:
I'm in Canada...I have no assistance server for AGPS...so would this help?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Daemos:
well I just tried installing it on my fuze which runs energyrom 3.0 the May 22nd build and it says "incorrect version, this hotfix is not compatible with your device.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Da_G:
Re: Not having an assistance server for AGPS

There are several publicly accessible servers available, check out the agps thread, as long as you have a data plan you should have no problem getting agps working with a few registry tweaks :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Xtreme XL:
same error here.....

not that I care though, I have good gps reception
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Farmer Ted:
Check your \windows folder; you probably already have cleangpsdata cooked in.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] zenithcoolest:
are you guys (who are using this hotfix) having the data plan?

or do you have entire map saved on the storage card?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] andrediaslopes:
Not that I've bad reception but after all this time from htc to post an answer to gps issue I had to install it and tried it..

Did not tested yet, tomorrow will post if I see any difference! Maybe it will take longer, cause it cleans the gps data all the time i reset. Or am I wrong?

@zenithcoolest: I use maps always on storage card... Data Plan is expensive and it's impossible to use with frequency!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] jgaviota:
You can use supl.nokia.com if you have a data plan, works great in Guatemala :)

You can find info in this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=489887
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Farmer Ted:
It didn't do jack-squat for me. Well, instead of getting a fast lock like I was getting yesterday, I had to wait five minutes. So it did do something.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] programatix:
Hi,

I actually set up the agps setting for my Touch Pro to use supl.nokia.com but I see no difference in gps fix time. After turning on the GPS, the phone will connect to the internet and not much different.

Anyway, I saw in one of your post showing the AGPS communication log with the server. May I know how to get the log?

Thanks.

Edit: I tried supl.google.com and the result is the same.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Da_G:
You get debug log with debugtool on my post here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=451646

Instructions are there on saving log, i'd suggest using "435" instead of "43D" to save log to internal storage instead of SD

There's a handful of crucial components for proper AGPS support:

radio rom > 1.12.xxxx

gpsdriver.dll + gpsid_htc.dll from 5.08 at&t rom

suplrootcert from 5.08 at&t rom

agpsnvsetting = 1 in registry

then you need the registry settings for proper agps server, port, APN, gprs connection name

all this info should be in first post here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=489887

if all is successful, in addition to what you get in debug log, in HTC GPS Tool if you save NMEA log, you should see within first couple packets of data, $GPCELL [some latitude/longitude coordinates]

if you get $GPCELL, you know AGPS is working properly. No $GPCELL and something's wrong!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] programatix:
Thanks. From the debug, it seems like my TouchPro does not even use AGPS (even though it did connect to the internet).

I'm using your WM 6.5 (21234) kitchen to build the ROM. I have done the following:

Build ROM using DaG's WM 6.5 (21234)

gpsdriver.dll + gpsid_htc.dll are from your kitchen

suplrootcert is from your kitchen

AGPSNVSetting is already 0x01

Cooked in aGPSConfirmation package

Radio ROM is 1.14.25.05 from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=439566

DynamicURL = supl.google.com

ServerURL = supl.google.com

TLSHostName = supl.google.com

APN is correct. In my case is celcom3g

Network and GPRS Connection name should be correct or the phone would not connect to the internet (data network)

Port is the default

From the NMEA log, there is no mention of $GPCELL. From the debug log, there is no mention of:

[D:GPS] GPS: [SetupGPSConfigForGetPosition] Using AGPS settings from registry.

Instead I get something like this,

(GPSAUX) InjectData: Injecting function start
14:53:08 [D:GPS] GPS: [GPS_Open]
14:53:08 [D:GPS] GPS: [GPS_IOControl] IOCTL:17263972
14:53:08 [D:GPS] GPS: [GPSDriverXTRAModuleProcessIOCTL] IOCTL_GPS_QCOM_ENABLE_ASSISTANCE_DOWNLOAD
14:53:08 [D:GPS] GPS: [GPS_IOControl] IOCTL:17263960
14:53:08 [D:GPS] GPS: [GPSDriverXTRAModuleProcessIOCTL] IOCTL_GPS_QCOM_ENABLE_TIME_INJECTION
14:53:08 [D:GPS] GPS: [GPS_IOControl] IOCTL:17263980
14:53:08 [D:GPS] GPS: [GPSDriverXTRAModuleProcessIOCTL] IOCTL_GPS_QCOM_INITIATE_ASSISTANCE_DOWNLOAD
14:53:08 [D:GPS] GPS: [WaitForXTRAThreadIOCtlDone] +++ Wait for hXTRAIOCtlDone
14:53:08.115 3GVT:Other RIL Notification: 0x400005
RilNotify,dwCode=400005,cbData=20
14:53:08 [D:GPS] GPS: [XTRADownloadThread] --- hXTRAIOCtlReceived Received!
14:53:08 [D:GPS] GPS: [XTRATDownloadThread] IOCTL_GPS_QCOM_INITIATE_ASSISTANCE_DOWNLOAD
[RPC] n 8 2ee8bdba 69124
[RPC]L2 5104ae70 2ee8bdba
[RPC] s 5104ae70 5104af70
[RPC] i 5104ae70 5104af70
[RPC] i 51048170 510480b0
14:53:08 [D:GPS] GPS: [XTRACmdCallback] cmd=1, err=0, expected cmd=1
[RPC] r 51048170
[RPC] i 51048170 510480b0
14:53:08 [D:GPS] GPS: [XTRAEvent] event = 1, status = 268435456, flags = 1022
14:53:08 [D:GPS] GPS: [XTRAEvent] PDSM_XTRA_EVENT_DOWNLOAD_REQ
[RPC] r 51048170
LoadDLL(ffffffff,8c5974cc,packageinfoapi.dll,7bfee000)
LoadDLL(8db8f8b6,8c5974cc,packageinfoapi.dll,7bfee000)
14:53:08 [D:GPS] GPS: [XTRADownloadThread] +++ Wait for hXTRAIOCtlReceived

Help is really needed...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Da_G:
Hi, this portion of the log you pasted is actually not from an attempted GPS connection, this is from the GPSAux.dll service (Part of QuickGPS)

What it's doing in this snippet of log is opening the GPS0: port, communicating that it intends to transfer XTRA.bin (quickgps epheremis data), and then transferring it

Search your log for this "[ProcessPollData]" near a timestamp that matches when you opened the GPS port,

The first instance of [ProcessPollData] should say "No GPS data was retrieved" followed by the processing of the agps registry entries, and finally connecting to the server

you should see a cluster of 3 [ProcessPollData]'s for every time the GPS is updated (defaults to 1000ms, once per second, set to 500ms in my kitchen, so twice per second)

Important lines to AGPS are:

[SetupGPSConfigForGetPosition]

[ProcessGpsFixRequest]

[HTC_EnableConnManager]

[PDCmdCallback]

[PDEvent]

[PPPOpenEventCallback]

[InitConnectionInfo]

[OpenUMTSConnection]

[ProcessPPPOpenEvent]

you should be able to visibly see the whole flow from reading agps registry, to connecting to gprs, to communicating to server, to finally closing connection

if all is successful $GPCELL will be in NMEA log!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Da_G:
do you get [ProcessPollData] in the log?

agps is enabled, right?

you should see at the least a failed agps connection attempt, strange that you see nothing?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] programatix:
Now I'm getting it but still no gps fix... in a building now actually :)

Anyway, do you happen to know what,

16:08:00 [D:GPS] GPS: [SetupGPSConfigForGetPosition] AGPS Mode - ReAiding is Disabled.

mean? Is it set from the phone side or the supl side?

Then I also noticed this,

Wimmob: ip address 0xc0ad55d1, ip port = 7275
pdsm: ip address 0xd155adc0, ip port = 27420

Does this mean that the PORT should be set to 27420 instead of 7275?

Btw, I'm not getting any confirmation regarding a position request. Is this normal?

Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Da_G:
reaiding is a feature of period re-injection of agps data, it's disabled in all stock roms ive seen, not seen a benefit from enabling it, key is enablereaiding = 1

winmob/pdsm is just a translation, the value's the same

you should see

CONNMGR_STATUS_CONNECTED

PDSM_ATL_EVENT_OPEN_SUCCESS

PDSM_PD_EVENT_COMM_CONNECTED

PDSM_PD_EVENT_COMM_DONE

Received PPP close event for session handle =0

PDSM_ATL_EVENT_CLOSE_SUCCESS

from here you should be seeing $GPCELL [coordinate data] in your NMEA log, if not the server isn't kicking back the right data, maybe your towers aren't in it's database?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] programatix:
I see. I get all the strings mentioned except:

PDSM_PD_EVENT_COMM_CONNECTED

PDSM_PD_EVENT_COMM_DONE

Not sure regarding my towers not in supl.google.com database as I can get my position using Google Maps (without gps).

Thanks for all the help. Really appreciate it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Da_G:
hmm, sounds like the issue is in the actual connection to the SUPL server, from the log.. :( is there a proxy?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] programatix:
No mention of a proxy in the log except mention of loading the cspproxy.dll

Anyway, I'm getting this in the log after PDSM_ATL_EVENT_OPEN_SUCCESS. Once with GPS data retrieved, followed by no GPS data retrieved and repeat.

18:07:57 [D:GPS] GPS: [ProcessPPPOpenEvent] PDSM_ATL_EVENT_OPEN_SUCCESS
[Cpu] 42 639339 0C0C4060 8DA7BA00 000183F8
[Cpu] 3 639585 0275AF60 8EB87574 026DABC8
18:07:58 [D:GPS] GPS: [ProcessPollData] --- g_hStateChangeEvent Received!
18:07:58 [D:GPS] GPS: [ProcessPollData] No GPS data was retrieved!
18:07:58 [D:GPS] GPS: [ProcessPollData] +++ Wait for g_hStateChangeEvent
[Cpu] 18 639848 0C070BA0 8DA7BA00 000183F8
[RPC] i 51048170 510480b0
[RPC] r 51048170
18:07:58 [D:GPS] GPS: [ProcessPollData] --- g_hStateChangeEvent Received!
18:07:58 [D:GPS] GPS: [ProcessPollData] GPS data was received.
[Cpu] 4 640211 03FADD68 8CAAE318 7866BDC8
18:07:58 [D:GPS] GPS: [ProcessPollData] +++ Wait for g_hStateChangeEvent
[COM_Read] Timeout
18:07:59 [D:GPS] GPS: [ProcessPollData] --- g_hStateChangeEvent Received!
18:07:59 [D:GPS] GPS: [ProcessPollData] No GPS data was retrieved!
18:07:59 [D:GPS] GPS: [ProcessPollData] ++[Cpu] 4 640719 80068704 8CAAE318 7866BDC8
+ Wait for g_hStateChangeEvent
[Cpu] 7 640945 03F51ED0 8D6DCAB4 000415B4

And from the test, I think the "EnableCertData"="1" in "HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\QuickGPS" is required for the AGPS to function (well, in my case, to connect to the supl server). Without it, it won't even try to connect to the supl server.

I also downgraded the Radio ROM to 1.12.25.19 and still no fix... well in my case, in a building... next to the window.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] durius:
I cannot get this hotfix to install. It tells me that it's not compatible with the device...

I'm using Energy 3.0 ROM, could this be thet cause?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] pbmestre:
Because Energy 3.0 ROM it's a (cooked) WM 6.5 ROM... And i think this Hotfix is for WM 6.1 stock ROM's... :D

If you're using a cooked ROM, you don't need it!!! Read Da_G posts! :D :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] programatix:
Actually it installed properly on WM6.5 ROM, cooked using Da_G's kitchen.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] zenithcoolest:
only stock ROMs or will it work on Energy 2.0 also?

also is there a way to uninstall it later?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] programatix:
20:44:06 [D:GPS] GPS: [PDEvent] clientID=3491, event=16777216
20:44:06 [D:GPS] GPS: [PDEvent] PDSM_PD_EVENT_UPDATE_FAILURE

Same for supl.nokia.com, supl.sonyerisson.com and supl.google.com. Sigh... :confused:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] programatix:
It's in the Remove Programs list as "HotFix RAP_S00829"
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Haspels:
As mentioned, the hotfix is actually only required if you are using a stock ROM.

The new cooked ROM's (as in 6.5) all have modifications that eliminate the need for this fix!

I downgraded to stock ROM (for warranty return) and have good results with this hotfix on getting a satelite fix. Still seeing a small lag though.

The time to get a fix is comparable with previous flashed ROM's like Energy3.0 and RRE
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rwkr:
it told me that this hotfix is not compatible with your device.

I couldn't find the star at all in room, but it will be better outside, other guys?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] zenithcoolest:
Thanks

@Haspels: So for Energy 2.0 ROM also it would not matter much with this hotfix?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] JPHCCFC:
im having no luck with google, sony or nokia SUPLs - I have downloaded the Att rom how do i extract the following files from it?

gpsdriver.dll + gpsid_htc.dll from 5.08 at&t rom
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] JPHCCFC:
Im having the same problem cannot get google, sony or nokia SUPL to work - how can i extract the following files from the At&T rom?

gpsdriver.dll + gpsid_htc.dll from 5.08 at&t rom
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
If you have AT&T, you can simply install the cab from this post.

Even if you don't have AT&T, that cab contains the DLLs you need (as well as the SuplRootCert and AGPSNVSetting). You can change the server info after installing it, if necessary.

NOTE: The cab does NOT contain the rilphone.dll from the 1.12.25.19 radio, which is available as a cab install in the rilphone thread.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] JPHCCFC:
cheers have updated that - apparently the rom i am using has the required files cooked in (NRG 2.0) i had it working briefly on Sunday now nothing seems to work - neither google, sony or nokia SUPL!!! I also have the 1.12.25.19 radio installed! im on fido network and gps just doesnt seem to work at all now!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Da_G:
See my post over here:

Re the other SUPL servers

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3839715&postcount=141
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] badtrippr:
Nice

Installed today on my HTC Fuze and works perfect

Actually I stand @ the same place where my phone doesn't detect any sat and instantly recognized @ least 7.

For me is a hotfix that really works.

Test Place: Puerto Rico West Area
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] andrediaslopes:
Maybe it's fast I really can't tell the difference! It's fast enough... :)

Now I know that when data from COM0 is corrupted I only have to reset and the problem is solved.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] p50kombi:
Any public supl servers?

Has anyone got any remaining public supl servers?

Which servers and matching IP are actually still working for you guys?

AGPS is failing on my touchpro on t-mobile network.

Used to work with supl.nokia, but think it's down or IP changed..

Anyone got a winning combination?

I'm pretty lost in this maze of expired URL's

Help please :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] noellenchris:
Hopefully someone will extract a new AGPS server from the new rom HTC finally released today.....I'm waiting too...with fingers crossed...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] p50kombi:
They extracted it, but it's AT&T internal server...

So no go for public access..

I am still looking for a server that will let me connect using T-Mobile UK.

This sucks..

Maybe we should start a thread in the general (Hacking and Development for instance) to ask everybody their server name and IP.

That way we can centralise the request, and just change one post..

Kind of like the radio thread, but only for SUPL servers and their IP numbers and if they can be accessed publicly...

This sucks....just got used to AGPS...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] belezeebub:
Okay my Son's wizard needs the magic put back in, he took a tumble on his skakeboard and the wizard doesn't power on any more I have already replaced a screen I don't see any new bumps or dents but it no longer powers up not even a charging light when plugged in anyone got an idea were I can go from here (Other then buying a new wizard that is a last resort)

Even used they are in the 150 range.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus General] twolf:
This is a recurring bug that pops up now and then for no apparent reason (like the missing second camera)...

Its really annoying because I cant play most of the best emus and ports since the keys on the side of the device all report the same click (EX05)...

I tried rebuilding the registry or adding all the files from a previous rom where it worked fine, nothing seems to work.

:(

Does anyone know a possible reason?

The only roms I know for sure that dont have this issue is CLEAN BLACK V1 and v4. I talked to ANIMELOVER already but he doesnst know why it doesnt works too.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus General] twolf:
.... and I love the search function! :D

Apparently XT9 is the one to blame for this, solution here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1771981&postcount=5
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus General] 2alive:
second camera

Is your second camera missing to?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus General] twolf:
On and off, for no apparent reason, I did made it work once, by updating the HARDSPL for a better one:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2786065&postcount=439

...but after a while its gone again... :/
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] GustavTheLion:
i know there is a qvga htc music manager titanium plugin floating around, which requires modding to run on the Touch Pro because it is vga- can anyone make a pre-modded cab that will allow this to run on the Touch Pro ?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] zanix:
Link to this Titanium plugin?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caleoss:
i am really new to this g1 root stuff, i have cupcake 1.5, and i see that alot of the custom builds have some pretty cool stuff. but am wondering if they are better than cupcake, how do i go about changing, and also i have no idea how to "root" my phone, so if anyone has time to explain in detail how to do this, i would really appreciate it. i need to know step by step how to go from cupcake to jf1.51ADP(best ive seen) without making it look hard...lol
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grokdesigns:
Step 1. Search.

Step 2. Read through the 2534 threads that cover this exact question.

Example: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=442480
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anddep:
here ya go

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=xda+how+to+root
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mast3rmatt:
http://allshadow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5692&p=40417#p40417

Info on the builds
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] walkerx:
litterally follow the instructions, step by step without missing anything out

I only moved across from 1.5 to jv1.5 adp last week and thought it would be hard to do, but actually found it very easy once i read the instructions, downloaded everything first, and then went through it step by step...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anddep:
yup same thing i did when i got my phone at the beginning of the year.. i thought it was so much to do, which it was. i wanted to make my phone better then the IPhone.. so i read, read without much question asked.

xda dream fourm was clean and had only 3 pages of thread when i i first joined.:p
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] walkerx:
since then already read on how to change bootimages, got the files working under vista64 and updated the images, then found out doing themes is same as updating firmware and as long as remember to use theme for build it shouldn't be too hard to do..

Only thing I've noticed is down to about 46mb compared to normal 1.5, but would guess this is because of all the other features so not too bothered about it
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caleoss:
Can I do all of this with a 1g sd card or do I need to get larger one first
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anddep:
yes u can, but what do u think?

i had to grab a 4gig for my music, mp4's, wallpaper, and APP2SD. i need to get an 8gig so i can add more mp4's.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] walkerx:
i was lucky i got an 8gb plus standard 2gb when i got my phone via t-mobile uk. Only thing is the 8gb is a class 2 card, so just ordered a class 6 with adapter for £20, could have paid about £12 more for a 16gb with adapter (may still get it) as daughter as DS so should work in that
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] ninrocket:
Why don't we have a Windows Mobile 6.1 section for software and another for Windows Mobile 6.5?

Maybe a sticky for developers to post links into?

Trying to find out whether or not things are compatible with 6.5 is a real pain in the ass.

Thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] ninrocket:
bump dee dee bump bump
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] X2D:
Short answer is no, long answer is here on the forums if you search for it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] freco:
Everything working on 6.1 works fine on 6.5 too. I did not face any problem with app on 6.5.