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[Windows Mobile Software Development] djtosh:
i think this would be an excellent app i would donate but I have an omnia and we seem to be often overlooked when this community creates apps so i will definatley donate if this app is completed and a wqvga version became available.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
I absolutely understand your point of view. As I have no knowledge at all when it comes to programming and developing apps, I can't guarantee anything. This must be answered by our heroic developers. But my intention for this app is that it'll be available to everyone. So, hopefully, you will be able to enjoy S2S on you Omnia as well :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ioulian:
Hi,

Very funny to find my own software here :D About your comment on virusses and spyware: NO, you won't get any. Right now there are only 2 commands included in this program: calling and executing a program. You already know what calling does but that execute command: it was made for launching a webpage in internet explorer, BUT can be used for launching virusses or spyware that are ALREADY on your PDA. So if your PDA is clean, with this software it stays clean.

You're right about no-finger-friendly-ui, but you must keep in mind that i'm an amateur coder, I know C# for 4 month now and don't expect some cutting-edge programming :D

Anyway, thanks for commenting on it, it helps me to improve this software.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
Hehe, didn't mean to cause any hard feelings, bro'! Just seemed scetchy about the message trigging calling function! But creds for creating this! ;)

As I said, it lacks some finger-friendly functionality... but perhaps you can contribute with your programming skills when it comes to sending and receiving SMS/MMS? Together I believe we can create a killer SMS app! And some day we'll send it to HTC and get it baked into the next ROMs :p
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ioulian:
Ok, I can help, but for questions, please mail me at: ioulian [at] alexju [dot] be because I never check this forum (not much time to check all ;)) I found this topic on google when searching for my software, haha :D Contact me and I'll provide the information I know ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
Hehe ok:) I will direct developers to you! Thnx alot, man, you're great!! :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] magicalan:
nice i wanna c this working on my phohe all ress? :P
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dickenz:
Planning on supporting all resolutions.

I'm going to create some more polished PSD mockups today.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] rjmjr69:
I'm in for $20 US.

As long as a majority of the donors are happy with the end product I'm good to go.

Good luck to all who try
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
Great, thnx alot!! Yes, we need an end product which is good to go, but I guess we'll see an alpha and beta first, so be patient for the complete version;)

Really looking forward to the new mockups from dickenz now :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] kly:
I'll create a thread when the first beta arrives ;-)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
Cool! Give me a notice when it does ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] eranyanay:
Hello,

I've been watching this thread for a while,

Im willing to donate 10$USD for a good sms software that will please me =)

I hope that helps.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
Every cent helps;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] JackTheJacker:
The mockups of Dickenz are simply amazing!!!

And the creation of such an application would be the most fantastic program ever, i think :cool:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dickenz:
Thanks mate and to everyone for their kind words.

The mockups are taking a little longer than expected so I might have to finish them off tomorrow morning. Trying to cover all the bases and really polish it off.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] neptune68:
Developping such an app is a great idea ! I'm looking for a better "touch friendly" alternative to PocketCM Contats for weeks !
[Windows Mobile Software Development] cornelha:
The psds need to be sliced in sections ie: the slider at the bottom should be 2 sections, the actual slider and then the underlying red and green image. Same with message bubbles and the default contact image.

I will fiddle with the mockups as far as I can. I really like the idea of this app. The suggestion for notifications is also damn cool even if it can be done as a seperate app
[Windows Mobile Software Development] laocheebye:
i think most importantly it's gotto be able to integrate into wm itself.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Naffets:
Aslong as it is indeed threaded/conversation view, based on the mockups I pledge $10 to the bounty :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
Threaded/conversation view is mandatory for this app, so there will be;) Please keep in mind that the mockups are not a final UI. But I believe that these mockups are nothing compared to how sweeet the app will look like when it comes!! I think it'll kick some M$ and iphone ass:D:D

Thnx alot for the contribution!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] eranyanay:
is it still just a fiction or there're people actually working on it?

I wanna know if this small dream will come true one day
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
Well, the thread was started less then four days ago, so there are not that much happening yet, of course. But if you look at this post and this post, you'll see that people are working on it or will start soon.

But, as this is not just a walk in the park, I guess we'll have to be a bit patient:) Stay tuned, though, the activity on this thread is surprisingly high!

Please keep posting comments and opinions! And mockups, if anyone got some skills! I'm really looking forward to the new mockups from dickenz:D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] eranyanay:
Im not that good in graphics,

but I can help with translations to my language when the time comes :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] cleanmonk:
i dont link an interface as iphone
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ajskhan:
I'd love to see this, it may earn\ a few bucks from me too :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] tcchuin:
i prefer slide left to send than sliding right...perhaps i use my right hand most of the time..perhaps any option?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
This is a very good idea for the final version. But I guess it implies a bit more work, so in my opinion this is not first priority ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dickenz:
Alright guys...

Bit belated... Sorry busy work day!

Here are some more more refined mockups ;) - Enjoy!

Inbox view:

Buttons across the top are for new SMS, forward and toggle delete mode (entire convo).

Conversation View:

Only one button here, delete to toggle delete mode to delete individual messages - On which a little delete button would appear to the right of each message. Then touch that to delete the specific message.

New SMS:

No buttons this time round as I couldn't think of any that would be useful (ideas?!?!) I did put a character counter and SMS counter there though. I also figured you'd make the 'area' next to 'To:' be touchable so we can type names there.

Let fly the comments my friends!

@longice: I didn't opt for the slide to reply simply because to reply to **most** messages you're going to enter the conversation view anyway.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
Well, man, this is just the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. Fantastic work!!!!! I'll put this up front right ahead!

Great idea with the static buttons up right, it looks really smooth!

How 'bout putting the white Manila background on this as a wallpaper? I think that'll look sweet both in the inbox view and in the write view!

Everything with this design is just so sweeeeet, I love it all. I do have three small comments though:

1) There were made a comment earlier in the thread regarding highlighting the unread messages. Maybe it's an idea to make the background for this message a bit darker then the read ones? Maybe a hint of either blue or grey... It's kinda like the poutlook thingy, but I like that feature.

2) I am a bit concerned about the text input field when writing messages. Will this be to small?? What we could do, is put the header (the "New SMS" bar including the counter) up all in the top. This is what happens when you reply directly from Manila 3D - the counter is in the taskbar instead of the app's name. But if this will be coded from iContact, maybe that won't be a problem, as iContact has its own, slimmer taskbar!

3) I guess there should be an easy access to the rest of the folders (like Drafts, Sent, Deleted etc...). So I guess we should put some kind of arrow (that points down) to the left of the "Inbox" text. What do you think? Check out the header of one of my mockups, at the very right (image here).

Well, I think people would REALLY like this!! This is growing into such a great app!!!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Sean D.:
Quick question...

What keyboard is this?? :confused:

Oh, and nice mock up, btw! :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dickenz:
HTC EZInput 2.0 is the keyboard - EzInput 2.0 VGA

There is a QVGA thread somewhere in Development and Hacking too. Just search for Ezinput and you'll find it.

And thank you.

1) I was thinking of highlighting the background of the conversation in the inbox view for unread. Just like you said, with a shade of colour, and of course organise the inbox by receive time - So the most recent received message is always at the top.

2) Okay... I thought about this and that was why I added the keyboard into the mockup so we could have a realistic view. Now I think having the heading bars keeps it neat. But you need to remember WM default currently allows us to view only 2 lines of text. If we could get someone who could code the input text size to be slightly smaller than default we could have a solution whilst keeping it pretty. As the keyboard governs the space we have.

3) I was also thinking about this on my way home this afternoon. It was my opinion that the FWD button in the top row isn't as important because you cannot forward an entire conversation. So why not enable a 'forward mode toggle' button in the conversation view, similar to the delete toggle that would allow us to forward an individual message as opposed to deleting it. The folder view would be very similar to the inbox view, but have an icon to the right and folders instead of people's names.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
Well, this depends - with my current settings and font size, I actually get 7 lines of text;) But the text is pretty small, though... Since we're "stealing" some space for our Slide2Send-bar, I think we should set as a goal to get as much space for the text as possible... But we'll figure that out along the road! :)

Yes, I believe this is the way to do it. This way, we'll keep it clean and nice, and at the same time every command will be no more than two pressures away. I like it!

How 'bout my suggestion regarding a white Manila background? The black one you can find here, then just invert the colors so that it goes white. I think it may be perfect for a wallpaper?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dickenz:
Yeah sure dude... We can add a wallpaper later though - I myself would prefer a plain colour for ease of reading. I guess it could be an option, to use a wallpaper or not to.

The only other thing to consider is it might not be possible as per the coder... So we'll have to see. Unfortunately programming falls out of my area of expertise. I just know websites :(
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
Hehe, then I suppose I'm not even at your level;) But as long as some one knows what to do, I think we'll see something soon!

With these new mockups I hope that people will pledge! The bigger the bounty gets, the more interesting for the developers! ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dickenz:
I'm gonna make those small changes to the mockup. I might make the To: region smaller, giving us more text room.

Try get them as close to a finalized product as possible, so a dev can start as soon as one officially jumps on board.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
That's great:)

We've actually passed 7 000 viewings of this thread in just a few days. I think that says a little something about the interest for this!

I don't know if l3v5y has started yet, or how far he's got. And, kly is also up for a look at it in a few days, I think...

If anyone of you are reading, do you guys have any chance to announce an alpha release date? :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dickenz:
Hehe little bit optimistic there dude - I wouldn't pronounce a release date as I'm sure it's a fair bit of work. 'When it's done' is usually the best way to go ;).

You never know what you may encounter along the way, good or bad!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] oknaka1:
I really like your design dickenz.. looks good. The text input is just nice, not too small nor oversized.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Winker-Omnia:
Hey - look at how this thread has grown.

Can I add the following suggestions.

* The app is handles all available resolutions and is winmo 6.5 compliant.

* There is an option to auto retry if the sms cannot be sent - rather than the current error message

* There is a pop up on screen to tell you a new sms is here - maybe with various options.

- Fall from top of screen

- slide in from left/right

- start small and grow to centre of screen.

something to jazz up the NEW SMS alert

I am in for $10 if the above is possible - I have tried almost all the freeware sms apps and they just dont have the fluid motion I would like to see.

Cheers all and finger crossed this can happen
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Drybonz:
Are people actually working on this? It would be amazing. The concept screenshots are very cool. I would love this thing if it somehow comes about.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
Try read the whole thread ;) I answered this yesterday, check it out here, my man:)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] badaas:
needs smiley gifs, if that hasnt been mentioned.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dickenz:
Ok guys...

Finalised mockups!

Inbox View:

Conversation View:

Folders:

New SMS:

Enjoy!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dwizzy130:
Those look amazing! The only thing i'm not too sure about is the text size for the actual texts... I personally wouldn't have a problem reading them but others might.

dwizzy130
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dickenz:
Don't go off the mockups for text size - I imagine it won't be hard to adjust. And I'm hoping when/if it's released we could even have an option to set input text size.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dwizzy130:
I'm not going off, and I didn't mean it to sound that way if it did. I just know that not all of us are teenagers with good eyesight so I was just looking out for others.

dwizzy130
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dickenz:
You're right mate... I understand...

As I said I'm hoping we can have it as an option so we can cater for everyone inclusive of those that have not so great eye sight :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ace10134:
I might be able to help develop this. I am just starting to learn Visual Studio, but I could possibly make this as my first app. I'll see what I can do. Idk if I could do the slide2send feature, but I could possibly make a light sms app. Slide2send would be included in a later version of the app then.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] oknaka1:
They look great dickenz! Props to you for implementing this app and working on it.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] kly:
Indeed, they do look sweet !

My Diamond2 Weekly Calendar is almost finished (a project to get reacquainted with .NET after a couple of years in native C++ on Linux).

Maybe I can start next week on this one.

In my opinion, this should be an open-source project.

If you look at the amount of views and reactions, there's a whole community behind it.

If someone (me or someone else) can create a base program, a lot of input of the community can be added.

I don't know what yo guys think about it.

Depending a bit on the choice 'open-source or not ?', we can choose the programming language.

Programming in c# is easy, so we can expect more community input.

It's also a lot faster to develop in, so the project will be finished earlier.

C++ on the other hand has the advantage of being faster (in execution), especially for drawing graphics.

I'll let you know when I start developing :-)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] aiiro:
If this will work on my Asus P550 (QVGA) count me in for 10$.

So far I have seen only VGA screens - which are very nice of course. For QVGA the slide buttons definitely need to be a bit larger.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dickenz:
Awesome kly. Open source sounds good to me dude. I am quite happy with a community driven project.

Just PM me for ANYTHING you need done when you're ready to get started.

I have PSDs of everything I have created ready for slicing so I'm ready to rumble.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
This is great, ace10134! The more working on this, the better it'll be! Hopefully, together we'll find a good way to make the S2S function work. I think this feature is quite important, as this is what will distinguish our app from every other SMS app! Good luck!

If you have any questions, just post them in this thread, and everyone will be happy to help! :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
I agree with dickenz and kly on the idea about this being an open source project. This way, the whole community is able to help out:)

Concerning programming language, I don't have much to say as I don't have a clue about programming :p But the intention of the app being light, fast and easy is very important for me, and for a lot of other people as well. Although, I really would like to see a quick development ;)

Will there be a great difference in the app's functionality speed depending on C# or C++ being the programming language? If it is not a very big difference, I'll say go with C#. But, as I said, I don't know a thing about this... :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
As this seems to be turning into an open-source project for our community, I changed the title to be more accurate.. I hope no one minds :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] kane159:
I'm working of this too

can some one pot the silder picture up ?

we just start at today so.....it might not be so quickly...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dickenz:
Which image do you need?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] kane159:
I need the slider and the buttom 's pic we need to try first about it's comvenient or not
[Windows Mobile Software Development] md_bluelily:
Greate Idea,

But please consider memory usage which is a problem for old devices,

Using C# as the programming language makes it easy and fast in development phase but the performance is about 10 times lower that C++ and the memory usage is higher.

Best Regards,
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Touchmypro:
This is such a great idea!!!!:):):):):):):)

I love the idea of open source it just always ends up being a better application in the end,while also achieving better interest to help further its development.

This is one area the winmo has always been lacking severely IMHO. I don't know if it is quit necessary(although it looks cool) to have "slide" though,but maybe

the option of push button or slide in settings? What about a mockup to have the look of Yota dialer\contacts? Yes,The skin thing is a must!

BTW,those new mock ups look soooo nice longice!

P.S. The ability to just tap the contact picture and instantly dial the contact would be a plus,and a button for instant accessing the "new message feature" instead of having to go to a sub menu ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
Thnx for the enlightenment! I guess the language will be C++ then? The app needs to be light and fast in order to be competitive! I will just have to be patient and wait a bit longer :) I see that iContact also is written in C++, which may be a possible basic for S2S...

I guess, that when we first start in one language, it's not possible (or at least very difficult) to "convert" to another language later?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
Well, I think that the Slide2Send option is pretty much the coolest thing about this app! ;) But of course, it'll be great to have the choice!

I can't take much credits for these, it's all thnx to my hero dickenz:)

I love that idea!! Shouldn't be too hard to build it into the app???
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dickenz:
Do you need it sliced up? I'll slice it up; left cancel box, slider button and right send box? Is that suitable?

And lastly as PNGs?

Or would you prefer the entire PSD?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Touchmypro:
Oh one more thing,a quick easy button for spell check would be most excellent :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] kane159:
OK,put them all up please.

psd is grate;)

thanks very much
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dickenz:
Done - They are all in the attached zip file.

I'm sorry kane, I am lazy and haven't named most of the layers. But the layer sets are named. I'm sure you know but if you need to know what layer is what, just hide it's visibility then make it re-appear.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
Hehe, maybe not first priority but a nice feature for the final version;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
I've put you on the list, thnx for contributing:) The goal is to get this app ready for all resolutions! And keeping it an open-source project, I believe that won't be an issue!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
Hey, dickenz, I got an idea: How 'bout turning that almost black titlebar background upside down? So that it's all black at the top and brighter at the bottom? Maybe it'll be more seamless and better looking? Care to give it a try? :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] oknaka1:
I prefer dickenz current idea.. it looks fantastic.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Sean D.:
???

Isn't spell check kind of natively built into the standard MS messaging apps already.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Touchmypro:
sorry for posting again :o But I just love this whole idea so much I keep thing about it:). So I was just wondering if this would be possible at all,what if for the spell check and other menu options you have a transparent a bar that could pop up on the bottom of the screen by touching a certain part of the screen? Similar to that of the HTC photo album? Kind of like the one in the attached pic but with the spell check option,the add a picture option,call contact etc..?

Possible,or to much?

It would also be real nice if the said sms program will actually take over the built in text app in winmo so that all the linking from touchflo,spb mobile shell or similar actually link to the new text program instead.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] LilGBlood:
Okay, I don't mean to be rude. This idea is great, and I'll even donate for it.

But we seriously need to stop with the i(Insert App name here). Its annoying. If I wanted i(Whatever), I would've wasted $200 on an iPhone instead of $350 on an AT&T Tilt or $720 on a Rhodium. I am sort of tired of seeing i(Everything). I like the Slide2Send name and concept, and to the last concept, it looks awesome. I have a Rhodium, and I love the SMS on it.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Sean D.:
Yup!

I couldn't agree more.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] norkoastal:
If this app can be launched (become default) using Titanium and be used exclusively without a stylus (minus typing), I am willing to donate $10..

Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] TheDude1120:
damn that looks good....ill add 10 to that bounty when i get home