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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] AirwolfUK:
Blackberry Connect is only for email, contacts, diary etc.

You will need to wait for Blackberry Application Suite before you get a richer BB experience.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] AirwolfUK:
Yes........
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] AirwolfUK:
For those having connection issues - a few observations:

1. make sure you have a good 2G/ 3G reception - seems to be fussy about a good connection

2. do not connect your TP2 with active sync - only one data connection allowed

3. does not work with wifi

hope it helps....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] dominoid:
Sounds like it's trying to use the blackberry APN for browsing instead of the deafult one.

Go to:

Start>>settings>>all settings>>connections tab>>connections icon>>advanced>> In there, make sure the drop down box has the settings for your network provider instead of blackberry. Browsing won't work through the blackberry APN. afaik, you will ALWAYS get this error if you click on a link in an email. Only way around it I've found it to copy and paste links instead of clicking on them.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] dominoid:
The ID change isn't permanent so there's nothing to worry about with it. I'd suggest doing so. With Blackberry working on the Blackberry Application Suite now, there hasn't been a new release of Blackberry connect in a long time and I don't believe there are any planned.

The Blackberry platform has gone through a good 4 revisions since the last version of the connect software. There's not even support for HTML email with BB connect. I think there's a good chance that what we have now is the best we're gonna ever get.

BAS looks nice but it seems to go over the top of the OS rather than integrate with the messaging function of WM itself (ie your device essentially becomes a Blackberry until you close the application and email only comes in when you have it open, thus defeating the object of push email) or at least that's how it appeared to me in bits I've seen. Someone will be along shortly to correct me if I'm wrong I'm sure.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] gunggu:
errr...thats what we're trying to do, i can browse using bb browser on my old TP
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] c0rnholio:
IE Problems with BBC

I can confirm problems with IE when clicking on embedded URLs in email received with the blackberry connect client.

The problems are caused by bbc reconfiguring the default APN each time you click an embedded link. If you close the IE instance opened by bbc, the default APN is set back to it's original value.

To proove this you can open an embedded link, wait for IE to start up.

Then open your device connections settings and there you can see that the default APN for internet access is reconfigured. Do the same after you closed the IE to see that it's set back again.

Currently I'm not aware of any workaround for this behaviour.

Maybe one like to try BBC 4.0.0.104 and check if it's the same there?

Cheers
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] giantrez:
no preview

installed and working. very good Job! just a little issue now: I can not anymore see mail previews on manila (on the envelope). any suggestion?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] miso82:
BB Connect working (connecting) BUT...

Hello,

I installed the BB Connect on the TP2 and i received a PIN and Server connection and I did not changed to RAPHAEL, BUT the connection works only with an O2-Card and not with my Vodafone Card.

The connection with 02 ist stable but i can not get the entreprise activation. With the Vodafone-Card nothing happens.

Any Ideas?

When I change the ROM to RAPHAEL, how I could change it back to RHODIUM if the BB still not runs.

Thanks

Miso
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] mirage22:
Miso... do not change the ROM to Raphael... only place the file that makes ur TP2 think it is the Raphael and let it run at every boot.

if things still do not work for u, delete the file and the line u added in your registry. tht's all... all the best!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] cdcool:
I dont use enterprise, I only use my pop3 accounts I have setup on my t-mobile blackberry account..it worked fine with my Nokia E61i a few years ago.

I tried the suggestions in the forum with no luck on my TP2, it seems that 106 wants you to use Blackberry security and does not intergrate into WM 6.1. the older versions didnt have this problem.

Hopefully a new version of blackberry connect will be released.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] miso82:
Hello MIrage,

thx for your reply. I tried it with the regsitry etc. and now I have a new Problem, the TP2 do not start, it is hanging on the green 6.1 screen and nothing happens. My only possibility is to HardReset.

Any Ideas? Maybe because it is a German Phone?

Thx
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] AirwolfUK:
Not sure i understand you problem here but this mod is for blackberry email on BIS and BES based Blackberry servers. You do not need this for regular POP based email.

Blackberry Connect .106 and the other versions are designed to use blackberry security to the blackberry servers.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] dominoid:
It works fine for em with BIS and no BES server. There's a blackberry security option in my menu now but I just ignored it tbh. Did you point your t-mobile blackberry account to the new PIN and IMEI from the website?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] nikanarani:
Device ID doesn't change

I tried to do multiple soft/hard resets, put the SetModelID.exe file in the windows folder (tried the startup folder as well) but no luck with the device change. I cant even get the exe file to open.

I am using an unbranded TP2. Any suggestions pls?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] c0rnholio:
The exe wont open, because it's a command line program (no GUI). The startup folder wont fit, you have to do it via the reg edit i've posted.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] nikanarani:
thanks, will try again
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] mirage22:
u seem to have edited stating that it is working... slow.. am i correct?

i think am facing that too... :)

am about to get hold of a blackberry and put this phone up for sale... :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] mallman:
i sold mine for this very reason. Just cant wait any longer.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] peebee01:
I got our IT department to allow me to use Activesync instead of blackberry to access corporate mail. Its both cheaper (you only need a flat data subscription), its better integrated in WM and it doesnt mess around with the different data connections.

wouldnt want to go back except for when I am abroad (data connections are ridiculously expensive abroad)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] chongbh:
I having some problem with the BB Connect as it don't download emails at times and I always get the registration email from my server.

Do you all have such issue also? Guess it will be more safe to revert to Push Email for the moment while waiting for the official BB Connect meant for Touch Pro 2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] billy_batch:
BBC 7 TP2 Working but frustrating

Hi,

I have upgraded from my kaiser with windows 6.0 and BBC .94. Now I have BBC working on my TP2 with version .106, thanks for the great fix.

Here's the frustration though....with the kaiser the Blackberry security policy used to force the lock on the phone, but it didn't stop me from making calls through my bluetooth car kit. Now with the TP2 the same blackberry security policy is applied by when I try to make a call, on the phone it says "please unlock the phone to make a call".

I don't know if that is a setting to change in Windows 6.1 or is it BBC .106 - has any had this problem or over come it?

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] c0rnholio:
Disfunction after Softreset

You may already have noticed that after doing a softreset or a power off BBC stops working. This is due to the SetModeID programm being not fast enough to change the device name after a reboot.

To circumvent a full reinstall of BBC there is a procedure which allows you to get BBC working again.

If BBC stops after SR or Power OFF do the following:

1. terminate BBCMain.exe process

2. stop BlackBerryLog service

3. stop BlackBerrySecurity service

4. start BBCMain.exe (from \program files\Blackberry folder)

5. start BlackBerryLog service

6. start BlackBerrySecurity service (you need to authenticate after it's started)

BBC should now connect and everything should work again.

Hope this helps
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] gnick:
Hi, a question -- could you post the source code of your SetModelID program?

BBC on Topaz isn't workig either, and currently the SetModelID.exe doesn't work on Topaz too. Since Topaz is the little brother of Rhodium, I could look whether I can adjujst SetModelID to work on Topaz.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] markam1955:
Strange behaviour ...

I am having some very strange problems once BBC is installed and running on my TP2.

I have followed the instructions in the link, get BES up and running, emails, contacts, tasks and notes downloaded ... but then after a while it all stops.

I can no longer send or receive emails.

If I soft reset, BBC comes back up, but strange things start to happen with network connection ... cant select network manually, icons telling me I am running E or G for GPRS appear when the phone isn't even connected to the network !

I have tried this with 106 of BBC, as well as 104 version ... manage to get them working for a while, but them it all falls apart again.

The ROM and Radio for my TP2 are

ROM 1.19.721.3 (51489) WWE

Radio: 3.44.25.27

Any thoughts/suggestions ?

Perfect phone for me, apart from this ... I really don't want to go down the BlachBerry path ... and the company won't allow PushMail.

Thanks, Mark
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] c0rnholio:
Here you go! Good Luck!

// SetModelID.cpp : Defines the entry point for the console application.
//

#include "stdafx.h"

extern "C" BOOL KernelIoControl(DWORD,LPVOID,DWORD,LPVOID,DWORD,LP DWORD);
extern "C" BOOL SetKMode(BOOL);
bool patchfunction()
{
WCHAR* nkstart = (WCHAR*)0x80000000; //I hardcoded this but can look it up via kdatastruct romhdr ptr
int nksize = 0x200000; //hardcoding to 4MB, using above method you can get size too

BOOL bPreviousK = SetKMode(TRUE);

while (nksize)
{
if (!wcscmp(nkstart,L"HTC-Rhodium"))
break;
nkstart++;
nksize--;

}

if (!nksize)
//we haven't found string
{
SetKMode(bPreviousK);
return false;
}

wcscpy(nkstart,L"HTC-Raphael");
SetKMode(bPreviousK);
return true;

}
int _tmain(int argc, _TCHAR* argv[])
{
patchfunction();
return 0;
}
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] gnick:
Got it working, posted the solution on Topaz forum.

Thank you!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] rileyfreeman:
sorry if this has already been answered, i am browsing from my phone. will this work on cdma phones? i have the telus touch pro2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] TheOmen666:
Hi All,

as I own a Topaz, I took the solution offered by gnick with the help of c0rnholio but I cannot get it working.

I already asked this in the Topaz thread, but as this one is more visited I am hoping to find the solution here.

This is what I posted in the Topaz Thread:

Thanks a lot for providing a solution for this issue, but I cannot get it working...

The Client keeps stating: "PIN Pending". When I try to register the account the data tunnel gets established for a second but then it gets disconnected again.

The SIM is working fine in a Blackberry.

I already tried to reinstall the BB Client several times, but I always got the same results.

The device-ID is set to HTC-Raphael, so that shouldn't cause any issues.

Additionally I tried to kill the bbmain.exe and suspended the log and security services and reenabled them after a few seconds, but still no success.

If you have any further hints on what to try, pls. let me know...

Thanks in advance,

TheOmen666
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] mitsi:
Thanks for the programme cOrnholio and the tip above. I have a Diamond 2 and have been checking the other thread there which links to your programme. The above process is the last ingredient which makes the BBC work on my D2. However, what a lot of things to do just to get this going. I have asked on SEMS if there will be any more developments on this from RIM. BBC is definitely one of the most difficult programmes to get working.....

I wonder if the above process could be done by Mortscript?

Thanks again for your help. Much appreciated..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] dominoid:
After using this tweak happily on BIS for quite some time I now have problems since upgrading my ROM to the warhawk WinMo 6.5 one. It runs the SetModelID program successfully and BBC does report the device as a Raphael but the PIN sits on pending. I've tried suspending and reconnecting and also tried doing a register now. When I do the register now thing it makes a connection to the blackberry APN and then disconnects again after about 10 seconds with no PIN still. 2 reinstalls and a bunch of soft resets later and I have the same behaviour. I've checked with Orange and everything is still setup fine at that end for access to the APN and the BIS server, nothing has changed their end, the only changes is the ROM update I did.

Anybody else had problems under 6.5? Or has anyone else been succesful with this setup?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] c0rnholio:
Yep to both. Had problems and got it working. Just change the AKU string in the registry to .1.6.3

After that, do the start'n'stop procedure + "register now" and you should be fine.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] TheOmen666:
@c0rnholio

Thanks you so much for this hint. I tried to get the bbconnect working on the Topaz, since the solution was posted here, but couldnt make it.

With your hint it worked perfectly well and I could activate my Topaz with BES.

Thanks again,

TheOmen666
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] AirwolfUK:
hey Deminiod - like you i wanted to try a 6.5 ROM and like you the Warhawk didn't work for me at all.

I flashed a few of the new ROMs and the only one that worked straight away was this one

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=550991 (a 6.1 based ROM).

I have no idea if it was just luck or if there are differences between a 6.1 and 6.5 in terms of BBC/ data?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] c0rnholio:
Like I wrote 3 posts above, BBC is working fine for me on a 6.5 rom. Just change that AKU string in the registry and it should work...(at least it did for me)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] AirwolfUK:
thanks - I'll give it a go

BTW - which 6.5 ROM are you using?

UPDATE:

Got it working on 6.5 ROM. Here's what i did.

From a clean ROM install

1. used a reg editor and changed the AKU to .1.6.3

2. Set the new string Launch130= SetModelID.exe

3. Copy/ paste SetModelID.exe to the windows folder

4. installed .106 of BBC

5. from the utility tab - registered on the network (PIN and stable IP address straight away)

6. Run the Enterprise Activation process
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] dominoid:
C0rnholio, you're a diamond. That worked like a charm. Thankyou :)

Airwolf: I'm assuming the reg hack there should work on all 6.5 ROMs but I'm using the Warhawk ROM so that's the only one I can confirm.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] AirwolfUK:
Yes - i am using Warhawk, manilla 2.5 - yes living on the edge!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] rsacipher:
I was able to terminate BBCMain.exe but what are you using to stop step 2 and 3?

Thanks,
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] rsacipher:
I for the life of me cannot get it to work after a soft reset or power off. I need to reinstall BB Connect to get it to work. Anyone else have a work around?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] gnick:
This most probably means that you got this part wrong:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] nikanarani:
I know what you mean, I had the same issue for weeks.

I finally added the setmodelid.exe to my memmaid software (funny enough after rsacipher mentioned it on the 'blackberry connect is working thread'). It has a tab for "Startup Items". I simply went into that tab and added the "SetModelID.exe" file from where ever I had it saved.

It worked seamlessly after that.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] jo_jo_mania:
i just sent email to HTC, they reply here

hopefully as soon as they release the software
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] rsacipher:
Hopefully this will be officially supported. I had Setid.exe in the Windows folder and set up the reg key to run it on startup. It didn't seem to work for me then I found I could get Memmaid to start it, however it works only about 50% of the time.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] rsacipher:
Ok I get an IP address PIN and in the about tab it shows as Raphael, but emails are not coming in.

I have the service books and it was working but after a soft reset email is not working.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] ssniptest:
Thanks for the very useful pointers to setting up BBC here. I have a few questions. Please excuse my complete ignorance – I’ve never owned a WM device, currently running a Palm Treo 650 on which I have been running the Palm version of BBC for several years without too many problems. Unfortunately the Treo is on its last legs and it’s time to upgrade.

1. A really ignorant question: is the SetModelID fix difficult for someone who has no experience of Windows Mobile or registry editing. I’ve set up home networks, worked my way through installing BBC on my Treo and my corporate system etc, without support from my IT department who only support Blackberry devices, and can follow instructions, but this is uncharted territory.

2. Is the fix described here sufficiently replicable that I can buy a Touch Pro 2 in the expectation that I can install BBC and get it to work? A leading question I know but I would be interested to hear views either way.

3. I originally had my eye on the Palm Pro – having been happy with Palm devices for 8 or 9 years. I see from the Palm Pro forum that no-one has found BBC for that device. I assume that the SetModelID route described here won’t work for other devices like the Palm Pro, and that it is for some reason restricted to the Touch Pro 2/Touch Pro combination. (If I'm wasting my time even thinking about Palm Pro rather than Touch Pro 2, please also tell me - although I accept that it is probably a question outside the scope of this forum/thread).

Once more, apologies for asking what are probably very obvious questions. Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] mitsi:
Hi Ssniptest,

1. I think you will be ok if you have set up BBC before and follow the instructions in this thread. I think one of the most complicated parts for a newbie is the registry settings. You don't have to do it this way. Instead, you can put the SetModelID programme in your storage card or anywhere and use file explorer to copy this. Then go to Windows/Startup folder and paste a shortcut to the SetModelID programme instead. This will basically have the same effect to launch this programme on start up.

2. I think the answer is YES. I have a touch diamond 2 and it is basically the same method to set this up. It does require a lot of patience though.

3. I don't know anything about the Palm Pro.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] ssniptest:
mitsi

Thanks very much for the encouragement/comments. Sounds promising. I guess I'll just have to give it a shot. I'll make sure I report back.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] ekerbuddyeker:
hi, i hope sompeone can help me here...

i have a TP2 but have never been a BB user. I changed jobs and they dont support activesync/ OWA so in order to use my TP2 I have subscrbed to the BB service at T-Mobile (enterprise). My work has added me to their BB system. I ran the BB cab (and the IDDevice stuff etc). the BB software runs and says I am a raphael, so thats all fine.

Trouble is, I have not recieved a PIN so it says PIN Pending ands IP address: no connection.

can someone walk me through the steps of who is meant to give me what so that I can get the BB service working?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] ekerbuddyeker:
I am also on t-mobile and followed your instructions. But when i hit register now, it changes color, but does nothing else. what is it supposed to do?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] ekerbuddyeker:
OK, after a ton of work, i got it to work. if you use micrtosoft live, you MUST take it off nonm stop sync, otherwise it wont allow BB service to run.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] bremair:
c0rnholio

Did you think about a cab file for this think? Seems that it will work for others too.

I'm not such a crack and would appreciate such a cab.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] mitsi:
Try version 104 instead of 106. 106 doesn't work on mine - I get no IP address or PIN, but 104 works fine.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] bremair:
Work on my german MDA Vario V

great job, testing it for a few days.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Phurious:
Mitsi, you made my month! I have been trying to get BBC running on my TP2 since late July; reverting to 104 was the fix I needed. Thank you!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] daguilar87:
I have tried to do this a few times and have been unsuccessful. Has anyone got it to work on the Sprint Touch Pro2? I followed the steps outlined with the SetModelID.exe registry add and install of BBconnect version .104 and still no luck. My device is still coming up as Rhodium and not Raphael.

What am I missing?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] dominoid:
That suggests you didn't put the setmodelid.exe file in the correct place. Should be in your windows folder, if it's still in your my documents folder then you won't get any joy.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] daguilar87:
I have a copy of the SetModelID.exe in the My Device\Windows folder. I also added the registry string and made sure it is typed exactly the same way as in the instructions. Can anyone with a Sprint phone tell me their exact steps? Anything different to get it to work?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] ekerbuddyeker:
I have one unread item in my BB folder that I cannot delete or even see, even if i mark all as read. Anyone else had this problem?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] daguilar87:
So i am still having trouble getting my sprint touch pro2 to be detected as Raphael but aside from that I contact sprint to activate BES services on my line and they are telling me this is not possible as it is a windows mobile device? Does anyone have BES data plan on a sprint account for a windows mobile phone?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] mirage22:
cant u tell them that u will purchase the blackberry next weekend (as u r unable to decide on which model), but to activate the BES plan nonetheless...? :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] daguilar87:
I wish it were that easy. They are telling me their system does not allow them to add it since it currently recognizes my phone as a windows mobile device. I had a blackberry with BES plan right before I switched to the Touch Pro2 and it was removed from my plan without me asking them to.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] ivwonka:
I have been wondering how people were going to get their carrier to put BES/BIS on their account for a wmphone. If anyone has any luck with sprint doing this, then please post your experience as I would love to give this a try with my work email (as I am never going back to good mobile messenging). Maybe people on a GMS network also have a bb and swap the sim cards?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] HigginsB:
Hi forum.

fighting my new TP2 since last week, after switching from my BB.

Did most of the things suggested here (HTC_Raphael etc) but after several phone calls to T-Mobile, HTC I'm ending up like the 2 posters above.

I don't get a PIN and while T-Mobile 3 Tier support said yesterday "Yes it can be done", the TM supporter today told me they can not active a BB plan on my account (I have this web2go full internet package) because

"I would loose most TP2 functionality ?????"

and they can NOT have 2 data plans on one account

Does not make much sense to me.

Any ideas/knowledge about this is appreciated.

Tnx