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[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jay652:
As petty as you have proven yourself to be in the past, this seems to be a new low. Sure, your site is helpful to some users, and yeah, I'm sure you enjoy working on it. But please don't peddle this crap about doing humanitarian deeds for the benefit of the Android community.

Your site, like 99% of webpages, is intended to make a profit. Maybe not to replace your other job, but for a bit of extra income. As someone who has my own website, I can confidently assert that domain names and hosting space do not cost that much. At least, far less than you're making in advertising revenues and donations (unless you're being largely ripped off).

That being said, stop trying to paint yourself as some sort of non-profit; it's bogus. You do make money. Your posts here do not contribute to Android development, and they really are spam. Consider your thread's title: "We need your help." Does that really sound like you are selflessly giving back to the community?

Again, I think your site is useful. It serves its purpose. But it's a bit insulting to all for you to come on this forum and spam everyone and then attack those who call you out. Grow up.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Reignzone:
You're becoming quite famous Jay.

It seems that your post is something that "AndroidSpin" takes personally.

As if ONE post on Twitter wasn't enough...a second one came immediately after.

At least you're speaking your mind; unlike 50% of users on this website.

[Then again, I don't necessarily agree with your point-of-view or opinions...but still; this was hard to read without smiling.] :D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Afirejar:
An update in October when the last one before that was in August, the horror. The thread might even get to page thirty within the next decade at that rate on bumps alone!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] estan_0223:
Wow.

They ought to just rename this site www.xda-jrhighchicks.com. I generally come here to make my phone work better and have some fun. It appears too many of you come here to compare skirts.

Grow up!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] enomther:
Yea ... screw it ... I'll weigh and +1 that ... truth is ... bring on the haters ... :D ... they are actually the one's causing all the "bumps" LOL!!!

@jay ...

Seriously ... I think "We need your help and support" is completely warranted. If it wasn't androidspin ... it woulda been some other site ... and if you have followed the history of XDA and this forum .. you'd easily recognize the evolution of androidspin was born of a very basic desire to help the "android ROM development" community. Many noobs were lost in the sea of freshly released ROM's too numerous to count and completely track.... thus, enters androidspin (really Simon) ... who simply wanted to give back to users by creating an easily navigated ROM DB, allowing noobs to easily understand the differences between the various features, etc.

That grew into a greater desire to help the "devs" by providing a feature set and hosting space to allow them to update the DB and community on ROM feature sets ... thus a website ... which was named androidspin.

If you think Simon is somehow "making bank" on that site ... that says more about your intelligence level than it does about reality.

Jay, save your useless comments and "bumps" for some other forum please.

~enom~
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jay652:
I've lost interest in this thread (and I think I may have hurt Simon's feelings), so this will be my last comment.

Enom, I've been a member of XDA since Android was released, though I had a different username to begin with. I know the history of AndroidSpin, and like I said, I commend its usefulness. The owner of the site, however, has proven himself to be quite petty. Months ago, I created a simple Google Docs spreadsheet as a means for the community to keep track of all the ROMs, instead of just one person. At that time, Simon did not have multiple-editor capabilities. I was trying to give back to the community, by assembling an easy-to-edit spreadsheet that everyone could keep updated. Simon attacked it, because of course, it posed a minimal threat to his site, and thereby, his revenue. This made me question his true motives.

I never said he was "making bank," but it's highly unlikely that he's just breaking even. I pay about $30 per year for my domain name and web hosting, and I get a lot of bang for that buck. Unless he's being hopelessly ripped off, he's making a bit of extra cash. Which is fine -- I really don't care -- but it just pisses me off when someone tries to portray themselves as a selfless saint.

Suggesting that such spam is warranted because "if it wasn't AndroidSpin it would've been some other site" is like saying that the Holocaust was warranted because if it wasn't Hitler it would have been some other radical fascist. Finally, my comments are neither useless nor "bumps." Simon bumped this thread; I'm simply responding to something that I see wrong. If you find accountability and honesty to be useless, then maybe you need to reevaluate your priorities.

That being said, I won't be responding to any further responses in this thread. It's already digressed enough, and I don't want to sour the AndroidSpin project, even if the owner is a bit of a douche.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kb7sqi:
Might as well add my 0.02 as well.... LOL

estan_0223, enomther....I couldn't have said it better myself. I'm currently working on one last update to both my magic/rogers builds, after that, I'm done. I know my builds aren't the "HIGH DEMAND" builds like every HERO build, or Enomther/Soulife's great builds, but they serve the few that want the alternative. When a noob comes here to XDA and starts going thru the "DEV" forums, 99% of the crap is just that simply CRAP/Drama! "You stole my sh*t!" News flash, it all came from Google/HTC/Motorola/Sprint! Only thing we did was rehash it & if some are capable, compile a new kernel/modules. I'd say the only real exception to that is Cyanogen or even Enomther w/ their ASOP builds. It don't take a rocket scientist to compile a kernel or throw some files in directory, sign it & call it "My ROM." I have nothing but the utmost respect for 99% of the devs here or the awesome themer's! There's alot of great ROMS that come from this community here on XDA, but the drama does get extremely old. It's time to grow up and get real. Sorry for the outburst, now back to your regularly scheduled "you stole my sh*t!" :D

AndroidSpin/Simon do provide a great service to the community. So Simon, thanks for all that you do do!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Vlad83:
While I am very tempted to make a lengthy rebuttal @ jay, he is obviously sour that he didn't become as successful as Simon with his "spread sheet"... Seriously, it's clear your panties are caught in a bunch for personal reasons and not Simon having his website or this thread. His site (just double checked) does not have ads and most of his disgustingly filthy revenue comes from donations. He sure is riding this Android/XDA thing for major bank...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] iPhone iWing:
o come on guys!! lets just go after the traitors and morons that have no respect. not this guy. its not like you guys HALF to give him a donation. if he makes you pay to get a membership then ok but if not then whats the deal? cool im glad we got over that. thanks!!

now, spin. ? can you guys make something to guys like me that kinda love to teach and make super super detailed step by steps for things that involve the android devices? i already have made a few and getting the organized so i can post them. it would be nice to have a special spot or something for peeps that are willing to answer the dumbest ?'s without getting butt hurt like everyone here. i love to help noobs or someone that just got stuck.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] SimonNWalker:
Jay... First of all, I never dissed your spreadsheet. I thought it was a good idea, All I ever said was that i prefer my database.

My comments way back that you refer to were aimed at androidrevisions and Sir Savant. For some reason, that I don't remember, at that time I thought you had something to do with that same site and I was a little pissed that he had copied by base data, but that's all history and over a long time ago. But it would appear that something in the past has upset you, some comment I must have made.

I said to my self last night that I was not gonna reply to this thread about your comments as It's just stupid but I can't help myself.

This is supposed to be a community and it just bugs me that thee is so much bickering and fighting on XDA. There has been so much lately that it has been driving people away. Even the developers. It's so ridiculous.

So....

Yes I do have ads on my site and it pays maybe a whopping $4 a day. So Yes I do make a profit. It probably buys me and my wife dinner and a couple of drinks. Donations are literally $0. This has absolutely nothing to do with this thread.

You can come back with anything you like to this statement or PM me if you want, I don't really care. I created my site to share my ROM DB information that used to be an excel spreadsheet originally because I thought other people could benefit from it and that has turned into AndroidSPIN. I do it for the enjoyment of doing it, because I can't develop ROMs so it's my way of paying back to the developers who's ROMs I use and the community as a whole.

If you don't believe this, who really cares and if you want to tell me that, send me an email, PM me, don't use these forums. I have been a culprit of this myself in the past when someone has pissed me off.

This applies to everyone....XDA has become a mess. The content is so far from what it's supposed to be and that's our fault, The community. Everyone needs to get back on track and post developer related material and stop attacking people that you don't even know. How can people comment on a person who is a name on forum, who you don't even know. It's beyond me.

So thanks everyone for your support and sorry for all you guys who feel I'm a fraud and just want to make a quick $$$. Now please everyone stop posting in this thread relating to this subject and let's move on with our lives.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] geekingitup2005:
I have to Agree with Iphone IWing it would be nice to have such a page for yourself. I have been offering free hosting to people who actually help the community. Although never publicly but if your serious send me a PM. Could set you up your own wordpress page, add you as an editor to my site, or give you ftp/mysql access to do whatever you want. Have offered it to a few people here and didn't think anyone was truely interested.

I run my IT Business off my server as well as my android site. I have never asked for anything in return and never will. Excluding my IT business site I do charge for IT services. ;) Also, I have no Ads on any of my site.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jay652:
I would have sent this in a private message (I do not feel like dragging this thread down any further), but you don't have them enabled. So, I'm left with no other choice but to refute your ridiculous claims publicly. Sorry, Simon. This one's actually not directed at you, though.

I abandoned the spreadsheet two days in because the community was able to take over. And from the looks of things, it's still being used. I don't care if the spreadsheet fails miserably; I tried to help out and that's it.

If you honestly double-checked and could not find any ads, you are an absolute moron. I count three on the main page -- one up top and two on the side.

I don't know why you're defending a situation you know nothing about:

And as a final caveat, $4 x 365 = $1,460 annually. Subtract maybe, $200 for costs (and that's a liberal estimate) = $1,260. If that buys you only dinner and a couple of drinks, wow, you have expensive taste.

To conclude:

I rest my case.

PS: Simon, I don't want you to misinterpret my objections as misplaced bitterness and begrudging. I've said many times that your site is very useful. I don't agree with your ways because, let's be honest, you lied and said you don't make a profit, and tried to portray yourself as some noble non-profit. If you really want to give back, then donate all profits to Android developer challenges on XDA. Otherwise, you're just another dot-com entrepreneur.

Which is fine. But you have to understand why people (and they weren't me) raised objections to this thread in the first place. If I opened up a new thread directing users to Android Community, it would be in violation of forum rules. Similarly, what you're doing is advertising a product, and shamelessly bumping your own thread. Granted, your site doesn't provide its own forum, but if BGR or SlashGear came in here doing the same thing, wouldn't they be banned? As someone who has proven himself defensive of his turf before, I'm sure you can understand. This is spam, however benign it may be.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] waqas.sonic:
just checked android spin good work !
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mrcartagena2000:
I just want to add one thing. Ads no Ads what have you When i first began my android journey rooting wasn't around. Through the months after reading and leaning i rooted my phone. This forum has always been the goto forum whether a dev/enthusiast/or a newb.People in here generally speaking have been real cool to help in a bind. The website in question was and still is very helpful to decipher what rom needs what spl and so on. Whats wrong with a guy makin a little bread on the side for sorting all of it out and making it orderly.The great thing about enterprise is there is always competition. Jay my friend if you have a similar idea putit out there kid! who knows maybe some would prefer it. As far as ads real annoying when you accidentally click them! Thanks:D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lesjaw:
i just want to let spin guys and dev see, that i really love download a rom from android spin site, its fast!!, multithread and resume enable!!

i'm from indonesia, and downloading a rom from androidspin really help very much, its so much better rather the 4shared, rapidshare or any pay download site!..

thanks..
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Vlad83:
Simon, I am sorry for this... Jay, you are obviously one misguided individual with excellent copy/paste skills. I have no problem admitting when I am wrong, thats what makes me a man (you should perform a testicle check your self, cause you are acting like a skirt). If you were to put as much effort into your judgment as you did into your cute copy/paste work and that oh so in demand spread sheet that everyone can't stop raving about, then all this could have been avoided. Unlike you, I am not shooting from the hip when I speak. I went to Androidspin.com and noticed no ads. I forgot that I had Ad-Block on my Firefox, so that's my mistake.

Now moving on to your points... Your are mad at Simon for "lying" about generating a grand or so from his website? Do you email the mods on this site for not being a pure donation community site? I mean your quote:

is exactly what XDA is doing (but being such a bright individual you pick and chose when your argument applies) and there is nothing wrong with asking for donations for providing a service to the community. Had income been Simon's primary concern, his site would sport an entirely different look. He wouldn't come on here for suggestions and feedback.

You clearly have a personal issue with him and its obvious how biased your arguments are. And how can you accuse someone you do not know personally of ulterior motives through a forum? Oh yeah, the fact that he was a big meanie to you at some point due to a misunderstanding, got your panties in a bunch. The mods seem not to think this is spam, so what makes you special? There really is no substance to your three posts. Here let me do you a favor and sum them up for you; waaaaaaaa, you have a website with ads that you lied about and making an extra grand a year... waaaaaa, you yelled at me for my spreadsheet, waaaaa... your 2 posts a months in your thread are a violation of the rules, tell him mods, tell him, waaaaa... I called Cleo and she said you created this website to take out your wife to restaurants waaaaaa..." Seriously, pull your panties up and STFU.

Oh by the way, you lied about posting in here again.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MontAlbert:
ads or no ads I dont really care. it costs us and the developers nothing, and if someone wants to donate good on them. i dont care if he makes a few bucks- still is free to us and provides a VERY valuable service....
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] iPhone iWing:
hey way cool!! i had no idea you were doing this. im not a developer so i can not help with making roms or moving kernels of 32b to 32a but i can talk everyone thru everything else and i make screenys and super super detailed instructions. i run 5 different os's right now and can help with all of them (xp,vista, win7, ubuntu and linux mint). i have set times to help thou. thats the only down fall. i work the mid-shift which slides the closing shift. so i can only work with others at a certain time but i answer allllll pm's, post's and threads that cry for help when everyone is talking crap.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Pier8:
Tutorials

I'm going to begin the process of writing some detailed tutorials to expand that aspect of Android Spin. You're all right, those would be another major service that Aspin could provide.

Why are we all fighting about something that's useful?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] rp1783:
The new AndroidSPIN

The new AndroidSPIN rocks. The updated interface is awesome, and the forums seem well aligned. Check it out!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] nugget832:
The new site is awesome and great UI. Keep up the great work!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] :
New site looks great, finding surfing around it a little strange but will get used to it.

One BIG miss for me is the straight forward link to Rom Database. Can only find a 'Top' list haven't found the actual database yet :confused:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] SimonNWalker:
Drop down AndroidSPIN DB menu on the menu bar has all the links....

Sorry you missed it. Maybe it needs to be more obvious!

What's your thoughts?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] :
I've just found that my phone browser won't actually open the database for some reason, it just reloads the home page. No wonder I couldn't see it :o so going to try on the pc now if it will open for me on there. Will post back.

Solved. It was due to my phones browser as it takes a second or two before the drop down list appears and just touching the db menu option just reloads first page. Don't I feel like a donkey lmao

Great site, I must learn patience. Not a virtue I was cursed with lol
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] SimonNWalker:
Not your fault man!

What we need is a better Mobile version of the site!

Working on it... :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] :
That would be amazing! Thank you so much for all the wonderful work.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] blazinn831:
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[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] SimonNWalker:
The Community Release site has received major upgrades!

It's been a long time since I updated this thread, but I just updated the O.P. to tell you a little more about how the site has changed and how we are turning the Community Release into a full blown social site for mobile modifications.

It's going to take time, but it's heading in the right direction. You can already register and subscribe to:

Releases.

Developers.

Devices.

You can also rate releases and will soon be able to leave comments with your ratings.

We've also been working to enhance the mobile view of the site and while it's stil. a mixed bag of mobile and desktop views together, it's getting much better.

Thanks for all your support.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Dantehman:
Im assuming its whats pre-loaded on the ROM as DudeCake is the only one im aware of that uses a custom theme to start you off :D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bbbblack:
In the sheet you should change underneath haykuros H build where it says GOOGLE SYNC CANNOT BE CONFIGURED. It can, there's a tutorial on this forum that shows how to enable the options for contacts, calendar and gmail. Yes, I know its not there by default but some people who don't want to switch because it says can't be configured might change their mind if they knew it was possible at least....
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] davil124:
wow really nice graph ! great job !
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] SimonNWalker:
I meant that the ROM does not have a theme as default.

I'll clarify this on the next update.

Thanks.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] SimonNWalker:
Thanks. I'll make the update.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] SimonNWalker:
Thanks.

Give me a vote and help me get this thread STICKY'd
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jzanitsch:
Most excellent. I've been looking for something like this to help me choose which build to go to once I root. Thanks!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kathi17:
I gave you a vote, it's a very good graph!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cigar3tte:
Hr3 had Chinese input for me.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] padalabra:
Just FYI, if anyone needs download links for these ROMS, SPLs, etc - check here: http://code.google.com/p/android-roms/
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] SimonNWalker:
Thanks.

I'll add that
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] shaneaus:
Can you please add the DudeofLife's build to your chart. Also, You might add a row at the top indicating which SPL is recommended since Haykuro 6 requires his new SPL. I'm sure more will follow that require the new SPL once some Hero builds start coming out. Haykuro and TheDudeOfLife are working on those.

Thanks for a great chart!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] SimonNWalker:
I'll look into this.

Do you have a link to this build?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] crxtasi:
+1 on getting this stickied! :D

BTW Haykuru's 5.0.2H Does have APPS2SD and also has a t9 Dialer.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cigar3tte:
Haykuro 6.0 has Google Sync, NO Chinese input.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Chahk:
Could you also please add the type of Apps2SD supported:

L = Symlink

U = Unionfs

B = Both

As far as I know, only Dude's supports both.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] SimonNWalker:
Will do!

Thanks for the feedback.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bbbblack:
'Kuro 6.0 has a pdf viewer
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] SimonNWalker:
Thanks.

I'll make the change.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] johnnylicious:
gooood info :]]
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cigar3tte:
Haykuro 6.0r1

Multi Touch - Yes on Browser, havent' tested other apps

T9 - I see Compact QWERTY, that count?

Superuser - see it in my apps

Market - was able to get my paid apps

IM - GTalk only

PDF Viewer - yes, and opens, but I don't have any pdf to test atm
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] SimonNWalker:
Updated....

Thanks for the info....

Keep it coming...

:)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cigar3tte:
YouTube works, but I don't see the Higher Quality option anymore. :(