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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SleepiTyme:
Quoting myself from another thread;

I went into a local TELUS store to see the Touch Pro 2 and played around with it for about 20 minutes.

I loved how TF3D now completely engulfs the kind of ugly Windows Mobile facet.

However, the speakers that play music are MUCH MORE quieter, considerably so than the BlackBerry Bold.

I don't know how GSM Arena does their speaker tests, but the BlackBerry Bold in a loud environment is excellent and does better than the Touch Pro 2

(You can tell that I have a blackberry bold)

That aside, it's as slow as the Sony Ericsson Xperia X1a, when going from program to program. (GPS, touchflo, MSN, word, music)

It's also a bit slow when multitasking. I'm just wondering (and I'm not flaming WinMo, BECAUSE I'm new to WinMo) ARE Windows Mobile phones just as reflective of computers?

Does that mean the phone slows down as you start to use it with more applications?

I'm playing music while getting my GPS location and send/receiving SMS from friends while finding the info they're sending to me on the browser and such on my blackberry, but I don't see any lag when moving from program to program.

On Windows Mobile phones, I'm suffering horrible lag times, and to go in a circle from Music to GPS to MSN/SMS and the browser, it's about a minute...

Is this normal on Windows Mobile phones?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Fabri181818:
I just try it now and yesssssssssssss it works very well many thanks to Sirgal and Ronh for the solution :D :D now my Rhodium is very ok for my work

Thanks a lot
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gehzumteufel:
If you look at the pictures of the unit though, the TMOUS version has a lot of differences. I just can't wait for the damn thing to come out already.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] atomic2mod:
Here's a Soft-Reset cab I use on my Diamond. Might work for you guys too.

Added it to my favorites to easily get to. So - no need to remove the back cover.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] michi123:
No need for a special .cab. Just hold the power button for a few seconds, confirm you want to shut down and then restart. Nice and clean soft reset as long as the system is still responding. If it has stopped responding a cab/program won´t help either, and you´ll have to remove the back cover...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gehzumteufel:
I have to agree with not bothering with a cab. Unnecessary and ultimately pointless really.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fraser:
As pretty as the Manila TP2 interface is, I've found myself disabling more and more tabs as time went on. The calender is rubbish for actual planning, "messages" has the long-standing reply bug, "internet" is a waste of space, "music" is useless without clean mp3 tags. All I've got left are "contacts", "photos" & "weather. I'd get rid of "Home" if it let me to be honest.

To take up the slack I've installed "Manila Today Page" which gives you an old-style Total screen on one of the taps. With PocketBreeze running there I get a much better calendar & a decent tasks interface. Are there any apps that let you run today plugins as regular apps?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poetryrocksalot:
I totally agree.... BTW PocketBreeze is a rip off of SPB Diary.
[G1 General] angryspoon:
I know this might have been posted and probably has but i simply am not getting it to pull up on the search function. I am upgrading my root G1's Micro Sd from a 2gb to a 8gb or possibly 16gb as I tend to want to keep a lot of music on it. If I upgrade the SD do i simply partition it to Fat32 and then copy my files over or does something else need to be done? I simply do not want to screw all my stuff up b/c i am not thinking about some aspect.

Thanks in advance for any and all help as i am just trying to be safe. Do not want to screw up my root/phone or anything with something like this.
[G1 General] Dharkaron:
Have you done the apps to sdcard? If not then yeah you can just copy the contents of the old card over to the new one and use it.
[G1 General] angryspoon:
No i have not done Apps2SD yet as it was unneeded as of so far. I have also wondered about the safety of such. If the phone were on and the SD card were to come out i would imagine some damage could be done. Once i get the bigger SD then i might do it.
[Touch CDMA General] Kasaki:
I have a chance to get a touch for 40$ which is a good deal right?

Also can I flash it to cricket and internet and all will work and after I flash it I could put android on it correct?

I could easily find out how to flash to cricket by reading but am confused by the android part isnt it flashing a new rom so I couldnt connect to cricket? Thanks will be back tonight to reply so leave as many suggestions as possible

Thank You all :)
[Touch CDMA General] tetrismonkey:
no flashed rom needed for android

after you have flashed you touch to what ever rom works for you. there will no need to flash it for android because android as it is will not replace windows. andriod runs off of the sd card. just read forum for android on the touch it should any question you have.
[Touch CDMA General] Kasaki:
What are the downfalls to android?
[Touch CDMA General] catfishk:
with Android running off the MicroSD, texting works only partially (Sprint/Verizon texts give "bad SMS encoding" errors) and web not at all due to Cricket's dumb proxy settings

this is the case with the XV6800, and i am sure the Touch will have the same dilemma
[Touch CDMA General] edru:
I got it working by editing the default APN and setting up the proxy that way.
[Touch CDMA General] oceilot:
edu help

how did you get the APN to work with cricket using android and vogue. what are the settings, theres so many to input. Also for some reason i can make calls or anything is this becasue im not connected to a network?
[Touch CDMA General] whitey10tc:
:confused::confused:Can you make calls or not? :confused::confused:

If you can't call or recv is your ESN in the cricket system.

Did this just start happening?

If you can not make calls but can recv calls go to EPST setting/CDMA setting and change the following..

EVRC enable = enable

and the three below it change to EVRC

make sure you have cricket PRL

HOME SID/NID are correct

ESN matches cricket system

MDN/MIN are correct
[Touch CDMA General] oceilot:
Everything works fine now, call and text. However mobile web is still a no go. In the new Ion build there is no APN settings program, just APN under settings for the android. When I add my user name and password to my current APN it still wont log on.
[Touch CDMA General] therenetrejo:
Web works on mine. reset your modem settings using the modem icon. You may have to dl a new modem app though.

The APN settings should be the same as the settings you used on the window mobile settings, wap.mycricket.com port 8080 etc etc.
[Touch CDMA General] oceilot:
How do you change the modem settings? Ive entered all the information in APN like user name,password, por,t proxy, is there anything else you said..... meaning theres more?
[Touch CDMA General] hermeez:
So what are the correct APN setting to make these cupcake builds work on Cricket???
[Touch CDMA General] edru:
actually at this time i have no idea if it works or not as they removed the ppp.username ppp.password from teh default.txt and from then on it seemed to have killed the data connection.

All i did was go into the wireless networks settings, or APN settings in wireless settings and modify teh defulat. I changed all the settings that you would in WinMo and left the rest as they were and it all worked. Currently trying to download a new system image file so I can test it.
[Touch CDMA General] dru28:
proxy question

hi i have htc vogue on cricket and im using donut 1.6 flashable rom and i have data working with no problems. But only in browser not through any of the apps or activate my google account. i have been reading and they say its because of cricket port wont let us reach out. also there has been mention of buying cricket 15 html plan but is there a proxy bypass or workaround out there thank you
[Touch CDMA General] whitey10tc:
The HTML data plan is a good work around but is not a 100% sure fix because in different markets it also works through the Simple IP. There are other work arounds like the broadband hack. But that requires a broadband number.
[Touch CDMA General] benjammnaz:
I know this is a bit old but has anything changed here to make Android market/data work on cricket data plan? I am still confused as to what settings in android to make (followed all of whitey's instructions for cricket)
[Touch CDMA General] benjammnaz:
New cricket thread

can someone that is way smarter at programming these phones for cricket look into this thread and see if its legit

http://www.thefuzz4.net/home/Forums...did/263/scope/posts/threadpage/2/Default.aspx

looks promising but....
[Touch CDMA General] egzthunder1:
It looks legit to me...
[G1 General] bolmedias:
This is a question that has probably been asked before, but I did use the search function and I couldn't really find anything. Now that I've made that clear...

I've always thought that whenever Haykuro's builds say that you're connected on HSPDA, and display 'H' in notifications, it is the same thing as being connected over UTMS on any other build, and the notifications bar displaying '3G'. However, after reading a post in another thread, where someone had said that they were getting much faster download speeds in Haykuro's build than in JF's, and that they had actually run speed tests to confirm it, I'm no longer sure. Does anyone actually know if HSPDA in Haykuro's builds means the same thing as 'UTMS' in JF's builds, and if they are not, why we cannot get HSPDA in JF's builds, but we can

only

get HSPDA in Haykuro's builds?
[G1 General] dixxa:
Instead of opening a new troll thread why not use our dear friend google ???

GOOGLE
[G1 General] emms007:
HSPDA=3G+

UTMS=3G

JF 3G = HSPDA/UTMS no distinction

HTC builds "H" = HSPDA

.... as mentioned before
[G1 General] bolmedias:
This is not what I meant. I know that HSDPA is faster that UTMS, and I know what HSDPA is, but in that case, why should people not get HSDPA with Haykuro's builds only? Whenever I use Haykuro's build, I have HSDPA. Whenever I use a JF build, I have UTMS. Why?
[G1 General] mystica555:
OK:

The way I see it, TMO USA doesn't actively market a "HSDPA" network. They market it as 3G. This either is to be less-confusing (less 'buzzwords' to market) or less prone to cause uproar when people realize TMOs' network backhaul (the data path between cell towers and the TMO network for both voice and data) is not currently able to give users speeds as fast as HSDPA implies.

It is also true that currently their 3G network is HSDPA enabled, but due to backhaul limitations the full speed the network is capable of (7.2mbit in hardware, likely 1.8mbit in the cellsite radio software currently which with new licenses or firmware would be scalable to 7.2mbit) currently cannot be attained.

In the Denver metro, both HSDPA and HSUPA are enabled but the T1 (1.544 mbit) backhauls each cell-site has give me MAXIMUM 900kbit/s (0.9mbit) downloads and 300kbit/s (0.3mbit) uploads regardless of where or how I test. Consider that EDGE takes approximately 200kbit/s, and each voice call requires 13kbit/s plus some overhead. If a cell site is overloaded on voice, the data services will slow down. EDGE slows down because the same radio channels are used for both voice and data; more voice calls mean less datarate is possible. 3G will slow down due to sheer loading of the backhaul link.

As soon as TMO gets newer backhauls, either new fiber to cellsites, or perhaps a backhaul agreement with local cable providers, or even wireless (point-to-point microwave) backhauls to a centralized high-speed hub, I feel they will promote their HSDPA network much more like AT&T does now.

So to sum up: The only reason you see 3G with TMO sourced firmwares, is that they don't market HSDPA even if their network is technically capable of it. HTC however writes generic firmware and indeed many other operators worldwide will likely actively market HSDPA. I bet that if you were to take the firmwares apart, graphic by graphic / text string by text string, TMO builds will contain the same graphic twice (3g) and the same text twice (UMTS) whereas HTC builds will contain different text/graphics in each. There is nothing preventing the phone from utilizing the highest speed possible from the network on either build!

My slightly-more-than $0.02.
[G1 General] maxisma:
It was me who reported that.

I tested it on O2 Germany, no HSDPA with JF, but with Haykuros 6.0r1 and now with the leaked HTC Hero ROM too.

Seems like it does only work for me on HTC Builds..
[G1 General] cyanogen:
Hmm, the libhtc_ril.so is different on the Sapphire builds. Try pushing this file from /system/lib to a JF-based build and see how it goes :) I'll do some testing tonight too.
[G1 General] AbsoluteDesignz:
oh snap, when did they change the definition of Troll?
[G1 General] abdulla1:
I know I did get around 3-4mbps on JF's 1.5 while tethering using anetshare. So basically, it was running on HSDPA but the icon was '3G' and not the 'H' icon as in haykuros roms. So I guess it doesn't matter.
[G1 General] kevev:
Hey, Good idea cyanogen. I have been wondering if we could get the T-Mobile/JF builds to display "H" when in HSDPA and "3G" when in UMTS. If you figure out anything that works, maybe this thread could be moved to the Development channel, or a new thread opened up there. If I can help, please let me know. Thank You! :o)
[G1 General] sino8r:
yeah, it's the same speed either way. I've tried speed tests on both various builds. I'd love to be able to enable the H icon so when I'd know when I'm in UMTS or HSPDA/HSUPA like when I used H build. It was pretty useful. I hope cyanogen can figure it out. I tried last week but couldn't figure out which file I was missing although I had all network icons loaded in my ROM.
[G1 General] mannyb:
Bingo. The actual speed is the same, it's just the status icon that is different.
[G1 General] kevev:
In Texas here, I get different speeds in different areas. sometimes around 300k and sometimes around 900k. Which means that HSDPA has not been rolled out in all areas, or some towers only have one T1 line and it is pretty overloaded.
[G1 General] jashsu:
It could mean something or it could mean nothing at all. Also, does the difference in the build.prop values carry any significance?

ADP:

ro.ril.hsxpa=1
ro.ril.gprsclass=10

HTC:

ro.ril.htcmaskw1.bitmask = 4294967295
ro.ril.htcmaskw1 = 800881

In other words, do these values affect the ril and baseband or are the values already hardcoded in the ril and these properties are only for informational purpose?

At this point i'm more inclined to believe speed differences are chalked up to varying levels of bandwidth usage or limitation of the backend bandwidth (i.e. UMTS Node B -> carrier's inet backbone).

btw if one more person suggests that non-HTC builds can't use HSxPA because they don't have a "H" icon, i'll probably go bat**** insane.
[G1 General] mannyb:
Yes, but if you're in an area with a poor speed, an icon saying H instead of 3G, or vice versa, won't make a difference. The H is just there as a visual aid in the haykuro builds, it won't make your connection any faster. I do agree it's a useful aid as far as informing the user about the current connection status though.

It's like putting a turbo badge on a car, it won't make the car go any faster, it'll just let you and everyone else know it's a turbo. In the regular builds they, Google, decided to not use the turbo (H) badge even though there's a turbo under the hood.
[G1 General] kevev:
I beleive the concern is that some users would like to know if they are connected utilizing HSDPA or UMTS. I for one would like to know if and when my area is upgraded to HSDPA. Just a feature request, not a rant. :)
[G1 General] maxisma:
Tested again with jfs 1.51... Checked the Phone Info, it says it is connected with UMTS.. went back to the Hero rom, said it is connected to HSDPA and displazed the H Too.

Mazbe non-HTC builds have problems With o2 germanys hsdpa ?
[G1 General] cyanogen:
I noticed this too. I'm sure it means something. I might try adding these options to my build and see if anything changes.

Did you try it with the new libhtc_ril.so? I included this in my latest build (CM3.2), but I am on T-Mobile so I need someone to test it out.
[G1 General] bolmedias:
The important thing is whether the speeds are the same, did you test the speeds again?
[G1 General] dixxa:
Hi,

I dunno if it'll help but few days ago I was playing with a program and was getting this results

Now with Cyanogen's rom 3.2 I get this so a small improvement

and my settings didn't changed

I hope It'll help :)
[G1 General] milestone.it:
dunno if i'm getting the point of this thread wrong, but heres my £0.02:

I have the haykuro 6 rom, on orange UK network.

I get four different icons AND four different speeds (i will post proof if needed):

SYMBOL SPEED

G 0-10k

E 10-22k

3G 22-300k

H 300-500K

so, IMHO my phone is understanding all four types of data connection
[G1 General] Dantehman:
at the end of the day it just depents on what area your in and how close you are to a phone mast, you know those lovely things that are in the news for causing people cancer when they are chain smoking?? :D:D:D:D

I work at an office with a BT mast outside and a million different antannae on it and i get G, 3G and H dependant on where i am in the building, it basically depends on just how good your signal is > what your network connection will be
[G1 General] milestone.it:
lol. that was funny :-)

i totally agree it is down to signal.

i live in a little place called pye green, and we have a tower here used by nearly every single mobile network there is and then some :-)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] starrayfly:
I am using unlocked fuze with t-mobile service. Because I don't have data plan, I tried to use instant messenger with wifi connections, but it didn't work. The messengers only tried to use the data connection. But I can use wifi to surf website with Opera. Anyone can help?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] starrayfly:
no one could help?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Wil Badger:
If it's anything like the factory IM program on the AT&T phones it uses your SMS. So unless you have a high text limit or unlimited I would use the factory program. Do some searches on here for IM programs and get a third party one like Palringo.
[Touch HD General] mr london:
Was just wondering how long the power button is going to last as im allways pressing it on and off.

Paul.
[Touch HD General] mr london:
And there is the 1st one....tboy. i knew it!!

Paul.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] cincy1020:
Hi:

I have a Fuze I have been using for several months. At some point it stopped connecting via USB to Active Sync. I was still able to sync via bluetooth.

Since the official ATT ROM is about to be released I decided to troubleshoot the USB/ActiveSync problem.

Well, I checked all connections, deleted and reinstalled partnership, tried different cables, different USB ports, uninstalled and reinstalled ActiveSync, unchecked the advanced network functionality box, turned Firewall on and off. Other usb devices are working fine, and I am able to connect the phone as storage/file transfer, just not ActiveSync.

I have searched and searched, and tried everything I can find, but now after so much messing with it, I am unable to connect to ActiveSync at all. When I try to pair it via bluetooth to my phone ActiveSync doesn't even show up as a service anymore.

When I connect via usb, I get the same error unable to establish a connection, and it suggests I check my Firewall.

I have added ActiveSync to my Firewall etc..., as well as completely disabling my Firewall. Still nothing. I have tried all the steps suggested by ZoneAlarm.

I am using Windows XP, ZoneAlarm Security Suite 8.0.298.035.

ANY ideas would really, really be appreciated.

Thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Cassetti:
Activesync is one of M$'s WORST inventions! Before WM6, The only way to connect your computer was via activesync (there was no "drive" option that i knew of)

I HATE activsync, never have gotten it to work. Thank GOD Google sync is around, sync up my contacts and calendar over the air.

Honestly, I'd say avoid activsync at all costs. But one other option MAY be to create a new user account on your computer and try activsync with that user.

I could also say ditch windows for ubuntu, but i have yet to find any easy way to sync my Fuze with ubuntu
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] cincy1020:
Hi Cass:

Thanks for the reply. Well creating a new user did enable me to once again sync via bluetooth, but still no luck with the usb connection :(

Is it possible to install a ROM update via bluetooth?

Thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jcaf77:
i am not expert and I have not had that problem wth my fuze, but have you tried doing a hard reset?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mr.jaguar:
uninstall activesync, reboot,make sure activesync files were deleted, reinstall activesync, turn the firewall off (for testing purposes), (turn off MS firewall service in services) and try to reconnect then.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hilaireg:
Need a little more information in order to help you. Information that would help is:

- Version of Operating System Service Pack

- Version of Active Sync

- Anti-Virus software

In the interim; can I assume that these KB articles did not help?

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/915152/en-us

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/912240/en-us

I've run into similar issues with other USB devices; and the solution is usually one of two:

1) Too many USB device entries

When a device is not connected to the PC, it doesn't display in the Device Manager. To display those hidden devices, follow the steps in this KB article:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/241257/en-us

Once the hidden devices are displayed (usually semi-transparent looking) you can right-click on each one and remove it. If you see any hidden devices with an Exclamation, you need to remove those as well.

For the moment, keep to USB related devices - in other words, don't go removal happy ... some hidden devices are meant to be there.

2) Driver Signing

It's also possible that you have a driver signing issue. You can temporarily disable driver signing by right-clicking on My Computer and selecting Properties ... the option is found on the Hardware tab.

Don't leave it permanently disabled; set it Warn, at the very least, to avoid malicious installation of Trojan or other similar programs.

HTH,
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] studentjunk:
You don't need activesync to install a ROM from the computer. Hold the power, volume down button, and press the reset button with your stylus. This will take you into bootloader mode. Keep holding the buttons after pressing the reset button until the tricolor screen comes up. Then plug the phone into the computer. It should say "USB" at the bottom, which shows that it is connected to the computer. Then flash away.

You can try it out and let us know if it works. Just soft reset after you confirm it works.

You could also flash via SD card, but that's more work and requires unlocking phone.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] cincy1020:
Thank you all so much!

I have not been able to try any of your suggestions, because I had an unexpected work issue arise, but I will definitely try then within the next couple days, and report back here.

Thanks again!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] schneid:
I have problems syncing with WMDC and my Fuze. When it becomes persistent, I end the partnership, uninstall WMDC, and then reinstall it. It then works for a while.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] cincy1020:
Junk:

You are my hero!! Your advice worked perfectly. I was able to update to the new ROM without using ActiveSync.

Thanks so much!!

And thanks to those of you who replied. I didn't try the other suggestions, since Junk's worked perfectly for me.