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[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] banana24:
Only when i recieve pictures in MMS they are in small resolution, for example sender prepare mms with 80 k picture, but when i open MMS size iz maximum 6 k, My TELENOR operator does not have any answer for that, and in a manual i can't find solution. Same mms sent to different phone don't have such problem.I reset my device, update ROM and problem still stays.

Thx in advance :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] jrodizzkool01:
Do you have arcsoft mms installed to your device?
[S740, S743 ROM Development] kingsizeriz:
okay ive had a fair few htc devices, and im a fan of flashing custom roms etc.

i've just ordered an s740 as i think they look like lovely devices and have heard good reviews so far.

Now i've seen olipro's thread which went off topic..

so how shall we get the development ball rolling?

how about a collection to get olipro one of these devices

(going for about £180 - £230 on ebay)

and im sure if we all donate £5 - £10 (or more or less if need be) it wont take us long before we get some good custom roms etc

i know i can't be the only one out there thinking this!

Let me know what you guys think :)
[S740, S743 ROM Development] kingsizeriz:
comon guys

50 views and not one comment?

is everyone really that happy with their device???
[S740, S743 ROM Development] r-jansen:
Hi,

I only find 1 thing annoying. When the keypad is locked I am still able to use the keys for volume.

For the rest I think the device is pretty good.

Ray
[S740, S743 ROM Development] kkrull:
I think it is pretty good as well but could still use a few tweaks. I would contribute to any of the following on an otherwise clean ROM...

OS

Windows Mobile 6.5 - Well this is an obvious update, especially if HTC never offers one.

Usability

Tx9 - Sometimes Tx9 is used and sometimes not in various applications on the ROM. Would be much better if it were one or the other.

Browser System Command Warning - Warning on dialing phone numbers from the browser seems unnecessary if the dialer is going to 'verify the number is correct' anyway.

Key backlighting - Frequently I get a reminder late at night and the phone is locked but the reminder doesn't turn on the key backlighting so I can see which option is which. Other applications are inconsistent as well.

Home start menu All Programs - I would prefer to have the option to not see 'all programs' there.

Home start menu scrolling - I don't like having to choose 'more' there. I would much prefer the scrolling through each panel of nine icons.

1,2,3,4 app - I suspect this is an HTC feature but I really dislike having one more UI to learn. When you flip the keybaord open it shouldn't prompt you with a 1 SMS, 2 email, 3 messenger and 4 exit menu even if it is for 5 seconds. Better to keep whatever menu you are in.

Features

Weather Panel - This seems like it should use the GPS and pick a city. Also, if you turn the phone off or in flight mode and turn it back on it should recheck the GPS and change the city or prompt to change the city.

Option to keep keyboard locked even if open - Well some of us have little kids and they figure out how to get the keyboard open pretty quickly

Codecs

I don't know what ships by default but some obvious codecs would be AAC, AC3 and any other standard codecs.

Additional Applications

Impromptu Meeting App - The automatic ring feature is great if you use exchange since your phone will go into vibrate mode in meetings. In fact you get kind of dependent on it handling that for you so if you go to the movies or dinner or an impromptu meeting you forget to switch to vibrate or afterward you forget to switch back. It would be nice to have an app to put a placeholder appointment on your calander for an hour or two (which would switch to vibrate) . Even better if it would remove the appointment afterward.

Shortcuts - It would be nice to create shortcuts to applications in something that shipped with the ROM.

Settings

Home Page - I know this can be changed in the registry but while someone is at it change the web homepage to igoogle or google mobile.
[S740, S743 ROM Development] lelopet:
If I like something on Rose, it is boredom with her when setting/tweaking. Without any "exciting" seeking/trying/zilions of reflashings of ROMs.

And, to be honest, MOST of things on your list ARE included in basic settings and some others are easy to be changed by simple (permanent!) tweaks in registry. I'm lazy to collect here what's where, so just two examples:

Rose IN STANDARD supports not just AAC, but AAC+ and eAAC+ as well, others are H.263, H.264, MPEG-4...

Function of your lovely Impromptu Meeting App you can activate on standard Rose in seconds: just activate Auto in Profiles. OK, it does not vibrate (it switches into quiet mode), but it exactly switches automatically ringing behaviour based on calendar events IN STANDARD. And they're much more such things (avoiding Action Menu, keylock not deactivated by sliding of te keyboard)...

So instead of calling for extra ROM, which will do what's already there, my recommendation would be classic: Read the f..... manual first. And if anybody would see gimmicks like iGoogle on homescreen or GPS based weather as so exciting that it will deserve tens (if not hundreds) of working hours on extra ROM just for these - you'll be a lucky man.

IMHO, spending few hours with searching around for settings and these few tweaks would be much faster and time efficient...
[S740, S743 ROM Development] colonel:
we don't need HardSPL, SSPL would be fine. Perhaps we bribe Olipro

$10 each ? whats his price :)
[S740, S743 ROM Development] zoomee:
I'm sure if one of you lent oli your rose for a bit he could work his magic and get the job done ;)
[S740, S743 ROM Development] shingers5:
fuk i am on board. can we have some info from olinex(olipro+cmonex) as to how much donations is needed to get this done! i am getting one but shocked as to the lack of dev activity here. come on guys support yourn device.........once we have some solid feedback from the olinex crew then we can get ball rolling! they would really need the device but it is so similar to the touch pro in form factor that HDSPL for touchpro might need slightly tweaking to work on s740
[S740, S743 ROM Development] Profy_X:
I think this forum is dead no one poast here no one wants to do something with this model..are you so happy with your phones as they are without any improvements?

Maybe if someone could give as a tutorial how to make an HSPL we could do it more fast and we could make the ball rolling can someone do this?i am would be glad to help and do something for this device cuz it`s too awsome :d
[S740, S743 ROM Development] cmonex:
well, I guess if it's enough to buy a htc rose for testing it'd be good. :)
[S740, S743 ROM Development] shingers5:
how much would be needed to get this device? i got mine pretty cheap through the trade contacts..............:D
[S740, S743 ROM Development] cmonex:
I have no idea... how much is pretty cheap? I don't mind if it is SIM locked. can make SIM unlocker no problem
[P3600 ROM Development] Make My Day!:
I want know which Rom is better in

Free Ram

Performence

Storage

compatible with software

Battery Drain
[P3600 ROM Development] ahraah:
6.1 works great with me
[P3600 ROM Development] goofy3:
6.1 is better in everything you wrote ;)
[P3600 ROM Development] thout:
6.1 will be better
[P3600 ROM Development] davidl2:
from what I heard, 6.5 would be slower, memory hunger, cpu eater...
[P3600 ROM Development] sole71:
hello

WM6.1 more free RAM

WM6.5 more responsive

This is what I can say comparing the ROMs of CV93+Oggi.

Regards
[P3600 ROM Development] zmuda:
Hi to all.

For me , not exist a rom ok for all.

WM 6.1 is ok for any function but is slow.

WM 6.5 is very fast , but again is not regulary ,

with many bugs,

I am waiting a rom very very beautifull ,

without bugs.

When ????

Bye .......
[P3600 ROM Development] sohil:
i found 6.1 is much faster and good ram Management, some of rom like i m using NiAx 40 which is very clean, i have tried couple of 6.5 rom but they are very slow and un stable, i would better stick with 6.1, may be 6.5 requires more ram then TRINITY have.
[P3600 ROM Development] chanvi93:
Hello all

WM 6.1 is in the end and WM 6.5 is in beginning of development .

6.5 is faster , nicer , smoother etc... 6.1 but use 4 or 5 MB of RAM more , my latest wm 6.1 in Ultra Lite has more than 31 MB of RAM and latest 6.5 has only 27 MB and can to be daily use .

Hope this synthese help you .
[P3600 ROM Development] BigE:
WM6.5 is BETA but..

Folks,

I think Chanvi gave the best answer so let me just repeat it and add:

1. WM6.1 is at the end of the road. True, there isn't yet a phone that comes with WM6.5 but soon it will start.

2. WM6.1 has an advantage regarding free RAM. However, with some clever tweaks (using kitchens) it is possible to create a ROM that will serve ANY application that runs on WM6.1 to run on WM6.5

3. WM6.5 has more than few annoying bugs of WM6.1 resolved. Original WM6.1 used to have some major issues, such as lock users out with 'wrong password' and other MS crap. It was all fixed in WM6.5

4. The GUI in WM6.5 is great. It takes time to get used to it, and I was between the ones complaining about the change it took from WM6.1 but the naked truth is when i tried to be back to WM6.1 it was bad experience for me.

5. Finger friendly- I hardly use the stylus in WM6.5 So much easier than WM6.1 was.

6. Stability- Sorry to 'disappoint' you, but at least Chanvi came up with a set of ROMs that are too good to be true. not one crash since April (two months) , great memory management (no leaks) and good battery life. It isn't all WM6.5, it is , I think, because Chanvi and Oggi are very talanted. Nevertheless- WM6.5 is , by far, superior to WM6.1

And I was one of the people thinking WM6.5 was too heavy for our trinity..:D

To get you an idea: I run 3 email accounts (one exchange) , my today plugin is home2 (heavy graphics) and I use iGO8 for GPS navigation, with high resolution and 3D (but no TTS).

And lastly- it makes the phone beautiful. Whenever someone shows me his iPHONE/Samsung/HTC Fuze/whatever with standard ROM, and I show him my cooked WM6.5 on a 3 years old phone (!) it is impressive... and runs as good as theirs, if not better. 3 years in phone years is 21 years in dog years.. LOL.. so much for phones, especially XDA ones.
[P3600 ROM Development] neato4u:
well apart from the comments above I personally think I like 6.1 better.

Used chanvi 6.5 for 2 weeks, and I can't stand the slow response of the device, especially accessing my SMS (i store lots of em) and it takes more time to load and switch between applications (about 2 - 4 seconds more than when using 6.1).

I even flashed 6.5 onto my friend phone, as to try out the new and latest OS, and he too came back to me after a week, saying please save me and reflash back 6.1 as it's too slow for him.

We are business users hence accessing options like SMS, MMS, and web browser and switching back and fourth between applications should be fast. Unfortunately 6.5 does not provide that. It's fast, but just the today's interface and when clicking start, but when you actually load any application, it will take longer than 6.1 which we can't bare anymore..

In the end, my friend flashed trynnt ROM and I flashed another ROM which uses diamond interface runs on 6.1 and have no speed issues anymore.
[P3600 ROM Development] chanvi93:
Hi neato2u

I'm agree only on thing with you on IE (web browser) is not good in WM 6.5 if you use new IE8 with widgets , it's very slow and lag because our device have not enough free CPU (not ram) .

I use also in professional and business , i don't know exactly how many e mail i have (stored in sd card) but certainly more than 1 thousand with 3 account , Tomtom 7.910 daily use ,more than 2 hours phone (Voip included) by day et... , my rom is a Extra Ultra Full with Titanium + Manila + SPB Mobile as interface , i change interface when in job or wk or holidays . Never problem crash or other , only one thing is true , some app. like "Auto Hibernate" or "Activesync Killer" don't work in wm 6.5 so recently i find and use cleanRAM level3 with settings by run auto all 3 hours .

You can not compare HTCHome interface with Titanium or Manila , of course HTCHome is the lighter interface but older also , you can also install HTCHome in wm 6.5 , it will work better than in 6.1

Regards
[P3600 ROM Development] BigE:
Things you can do..

Some comments, as you did not mention some crucial info...

1. Have you tried IE6UltraLite ROM?

2. Do you support the phone with any tools like SKTOOLS for memory managment and shadow RAM services?

3. Ever tried opera MINI 4.2? (not opera mobile, don't confuse between the two). IE6 or IE8 are a disaster app, regardless if you use WM6.1 or WM6.5

I am, like you, using this XDA for business. I have no issues with either OS, provided I am taking good care of the installation of the above. Please keep in mind this phobe is not HTC but Dopod (were bought by HTC) and since WM5 there is not much of support for it by HTC. If you intend to keep using the trinity, even if with WM6.1, you can make it more efficient.

If you have installed the full blown IE8 version, yes, I agree with you it is not business oriented. But Chanvi has the lite just for the business side of it.

Besides, if you are really away from a computer and use your phone heavily, making it finger friendly is the main thing WM6.1 is missing. The GUI (and I mean the pull down menus) is what makes the difference for me. I was hesitating a lot with WM6.5 until Chanvi proved me step by step how WM6.5 can give me what i am looking for.

Other than that, the naked truth is a 64M RAM phone is a joke.

BigE
[P3600 ROM Development] mur1:
wm 6.1 is better u can do more :)
[P3600 ROM Development] gepy73:
WM 6.5

Hi all

this is my first fost...sorry for my bad english.

After a lot of change now i'n usin PDA ROM WM6.5 V49.

It works very well...fast and stable. For me is the best one now.

bye

:)
[P3600 ROM Development] sohil:
brother u r doing a good job but as u have said "WM 6.5 is in beginning of development" is right i have used ur lite 6.5 rom for couple of days and found is not stable as 6.1. (i m sorry if i have disappointed you)

i really appreciate your contribution to the forum and i will keep track of ur roms.

Thanks

regards
[P3600 ROM Development] mobilx:
Please share your findings. How did you conclude its unstable?

Regards
[P3600 ROM Development] juan_sck:
I'm agree with almost everything you said, but I think those few MB of RAM consumption difference are critical. I installed CV93+Oggi WM 6.5 OS 21501 and since can't use iGO (I tried several versions, even the new amigo) and it always says "out of memory" after a few minutes in best case. So if you need any RAM hungry app 6.5 is not for you, in any other case it may be the best option.

My impressions are: battery works for much longer, about 10 more hours with low/normal use (no wifi or bt, just phone). Screen and phone perfomance are better, in apps it's the same than 6.1. And I didn't find any incompatible software.

If there was anyway to close CHome, like manilla, we could get a few more RAM.
[P3600 ROM Development] SuperSport:
If you use Chanvi's latest WM 6.5 Kitchen, you can leave CHome and Manilla out completely! BigE is getting up to 29MB free in this way on one of his UltraLites. Without TTS, iGO8 breathes quite well on this.
[P3600 ROM Development] BigE:
I certainly do.. my best results were with the 21232 IE6UltraLite by Chanvi. 27M free RAM and 78M free storage. I skinned out M2D and CHOME (I use home2) and I run SKTOOLS to optimize memory. Joel from Pointui has created a home2 file that will send graphics to the storage memory, and on top I am using mToday to switch all home pluggins off before i run iGO. I get 23-26M free RAM (23 if I do not soft reset, 26 if I do) and can run iGO in high resolution and buildings, while syncing with 3 email accounts, get text messages and calls. If you have more need than that, than trinity is not for you. It is a 4 years old device with miserable 64M RAM... we are kind of beating a dead horse here, and Chanvi is able to give it a nice push and keep it alive before Diamond2 is released (I mean 3G supported around the world, not just EU, hard SPL released for unlocking, and decent forum activity to support it with cooks and testing).

The thing is, I have to admit, in order to make the device 'behave' it takes some tweaking and knowlegde, and it is not for the lazy or faint heart user.. :)

BigE
[P3600 ROM Development] sohil:
hi! these r the basic problem i have faced when ever i have used 6.5, but let me clear one thing as my job mostly require mobile communication i have used 6.5 only for a day, as i cant afford to miss a call.

1. during call waiting i cant take another call and it stalls if i take it. (needs to soft reset)

2. i m regular user of garmin xt 5.20 navigation software which get stalls if i try and zoom or changing some setting.(need to soft reset)

3. i have found 6.5 is slower then 6.1

regards
[P3600 ROM Development] BigE:
Let's try to take it to a more scientific approach..

'speed' is not something one can measure... Let's discuss it as follows:

1. First declare what ROM do you have, how much of free RAM and choose a setup (with today plugin, without, whatever) so we can compare apples to apples.

2. choose an operation as you base test and measure the time it takes. Now you have a tool to compare and state what takes less time, hence faster.

3. I found that if you have platy of RAM you get better results. Many times there are processes in the background (you can see them with task manager) you don't know about.

Personally I have seen faster WM6.1 than Chanvi's WM6.5 as much as I have seen slower ones. The question is what do you pay for the speed. tnyynt used to have a super ultra naked WM6.1 that was very fast. Would i use it? probably not, considering the things one has to give up for a second faster apps... but now we get into taste, and it can not be scientifically measured as well.. :p

bigE
[P3600 ROM Development] wabre:
Obviously you're right that we need to provide more info when stating a comparison which may lead to wrong conclusions. but not everybody will be spending hours/days/weeks tweaking every single setting/app in his phone. some people come here to try something new and flash a winmo 5 based device with 6.1 and/or 6.5. already flashing is not something everybody can or should do. and then the first impression is always the first impression. there is no second first impression, even after tweaking. some people just won't have the time or interest in tweaking to the last thing available.

me personally i prefer 6.5 (chanvi) and tested some apps, an "out of memory" message when using only iGO 8 is something quite annoying - and that's definitely not chanvis error, but we cannot expect too much from this quite old device. i think 6.1 is like XP, it's end of life but proven and stable and there's a lot out there. 6.5 is exciting and new, better in GUI and in basically everything...but...the device is not meant to run it flawlessly. so in the end if think 6.1 is the better choice as a whole for this device. otherwise sell it on ebay and get a newer device.

oh and a question: i want to test 6.5 more but apart from chanvi are there others which can be considered? i know lots of people put some extremely serious effort in developing roms, but in the end there are some few which really are better
[P3600 ROM Development] sohil:
hi

you are right, let us put some time on this testing.

we should make a team of people who are willing to put some time on testing,

and with different 6.1 / 6.5 roms. and with specific programs decided by team installed and then let them use their trinity for at least for one week.

then we can conclude, by asking them to note how many times they have done rest, for what reason etc.

regards
[P3600 ROM Development] du9mp:
I am too.;)
[P3600 ROM Development] juan_sck:
nikitto from old niax team still makes spanish roms and shares kitchen.

his latest rom has 3 versions: CHome, Manilla and HTC Home. This version has about 80MB free for storage and 20MB for program, that sounds great, I may try it today.

Check it out here: http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=49847
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kandjar:
I recently bought an imported unlocked Diamond2. I have AT&T as phone provider. The first day I setup my data plan, it worked, since it stopped. When I call them they say that I can't have data plan with this phone since it's not an AT&T phone and that was the reason why I couldn't access internet.

My concern is: At the beginning, I worked!!! It's just a day after the activation of the data plan that it stops working; I have a feeling that they may have blocked my phone after detecting that it wasn't an at&t phone.

Also when I go do "Data Connection Setup", I can clearly select "United States" and "AT&T"...

Has anyone encounter this issue? Has anyone got a data plan with AT&T and got it to work with the Diamond2?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CrezyMunky:
They killed mine too. I switched over to pay as you go for now until i can get another plan. I will not stay with a company that shafts you at every turn.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kandjar:
OK so it's not just an impression, they really did block the phone...:mad: Is this legal???

In any case, I'm going to call T-Mobile to know if this will work.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GuardianUSMC:
Unfortunately, yes they can. Most of the time they don't care but since they have contracts with the phone makers and some are exclusively with them, they don't want people to just go out and get whatever phone and use it on their network while they lose money with the contracts they have with the vendors they own. Its all about the bottom line for them and as a business its their right, although I am with you, I hate that; however, its understandable, they are out there to make money. Now I know for sure from AT&T techs that if the phone you are using is NOT on their hardware list BUT its made by one of the hardware providers they have a contract with, then they don't block it. If that helps any.

To give you an example, I have an iPAQ 910c, not a device they sell, but since they support iPAQ 6515, they don't mess with me. I had a Q9h (before my wife took it) and then my friend gave me his HK version I think known as Q9M or something crazy like that and it works fine because its still a Q. You get the idea.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kandjar:
OK.

So I actually got tricked by a d#$@%ss at&t guy :mad: who ensured me that my phone couldn't work since it was not an 'at&t certified' phone, which made me suspicious since it first worked.

Then when I read the post of someone having the same issue, I got intrigued and I called AT&T again... with the intention to talk to a manager and to clarify the situation.

This time I ended up talking with a very nice lady, which couldn't help me much except by assuring that the problem wasn't on their side and that my phone should work if it ever worked. :confused:

So I started thinking and realized that I actually changed ONE thing between the time it was working and the time it stops working... Guess what... :rolleyes: That ONE thing was actually the reason why I couldn't connect to the net anymore...:eek:

Back then, I was annoyed by the USSD notification message which kept popping up every hour or so saying: "Your last transaction costs you $0.00..." making by phone beeping every single time... :mad: :mad: I found that it was actually possible to disable them (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=326851). :p

Well the problem by disabling them is actually you loose also you internet connection :eek:. I didn't realize it immediately since I had my wifi connection working.

Now I'm back to day one:

- internet work :D

- i'm still deeply annoyed by the USSD notification message mentioning a $0.00 transaction :(