yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G1 Android Development] borodin1:
I think I'm ready for an update (ran 3.4 for a while now, just not the type of person who flashes roms every 2 hrs)

I have one question though: in the beginning (January)we moved our apps to SD via symlinks. Few months ago the hell broke loose and all of the sudden symlinks were the worst evil on earth so we moved to unionfs, then to aufs and everybody raved about it. I was never too impressed with unionfs/aufs because (since I stick with roms for a while) these setups slow down considerably after a week or two of use (just like my 3.4 did). I also never, and I mean never, had a problem flashing different roms with symlinks, yet I almost always have to reinstall my apps now, using unionfs/aufs. Now we are back to symlinks.... what happened? Did we decide that symlinks were the best way to go all along or was was something discovered that made symlink method better then the rest.

P.S. This is not bashing of any developers, neither it is a complaint of any sort. I would also appreciate if Cyanogen himself dropped a line with his thoughts about this (not that I wouldn't like to see what other people think).

Thank you for your time... sorry about the long post.
[G1 Android Development] tekkitan:
is anyone else having an issue when they mount the sd to their computer (when connecting the G1 to the computer via usb), then unmount it, and the G1 locks up and reboots?

mine is...
[G1 Android Development] pgarza:
nope, i just tried it and it worked just fine.... maybe you need to wipe you ext2/3 partition and then try a fresh install + wipe...
[G1 Android Development] louie101086:
Is anyone else's street view not working or is it just me missing a step
[G1 Android Development] cyanogen:
Nobody said symlinks were evil, it's just that a union mount is a superior way of doing it. Unfortunately, there is something about the kernel code that doesn't work so well on Android (possibly on any low-memory system). I sent some info to the AUFS developers but haven't heard anything.

One downside to symlinks, is that if you had dalvik-cache symlinked then you couldn't boot without your SD card. I solved this by using a bind mount for dalvik-cache, and two symlinks for app/app-private (app dirs have to be on the same filesystem so bind mounts are no good there).
[G1 Android Development] driguez:
Niiiiiiiiiiiice!!!!!!!!!!!!
[G1 Android Development] cyanogen:
Are you on Linux? Is your system trying to actually mount the ext partition? That could be potentially bad. In fact I think I am going to try and tweak vold to ignore it.
[G1 Android Development] Denkai:
CPU is auto OC to 528, and you have to manually put an effort to move your caches. try going to settings/applications/manage and uninstall/clear cache google Maps then redownload it from the market if you uninstall and reboot in either path you take.
[G1 Android Development] bkmo:
APN List?

I only have the APN's that I have added manually. I thought that Haykuro's list was supposed to be in the rom? Am I looking in the wrong place or doing something wrong?
[G1 Android Development] borodin1:
Not in those words, but yes, it was said :D

And who ever booted without SD card? Just my 2 cents. Again not bashing anyone or anything :)

Do you see any problems in the long run using this set-up? I personally don't even need apps on SD at this time, just getting ready for whenever someone releases GPS navigation that stores maps on the phone.

At any rate, Cyanogen, you're doing a great job with this rom, my favorite rom by far as a matter of fact!!!
[G1 Android Development] Rickster08:
what is going on with the themeplate..downloaded it and it looks the same as downloading the actual rom....doing something wrong?
[G1 Android Development] bkmo:
My ubuntu 9.04 automounts the fat and ext3 partitions. If I select unmount from ubuntu, then unmount sd from the phone I have no problems or reboots. I have used it this way to copy my apps from the ext3 partition before an update.
[G1 Android Development] catracho99:
Having the same.

i have the same problem i see no diferents
[G1 Android Development] jimbo831:
I tried all of this and even tried a new NES game, 1942. The issue did occurr again and this time the force close was for com.google.process.gapps (I don't even know what app this is). Something just doesn't seem to mesh with background multitasking and these emulators. I really don't think this happens on stock builds though or I would imagine there would be mentions of it in the Market reviews.

Edit: As a side note, I have also emailed the dev explaining the situation. Perhaps he may be able to provide some insight. I'll let everyone know if I hear back from him with anything interesting.
[G1 Android Development] dwang:
LOL

Its a "template." Its for people who want to make a theme. Its not an "actual" new theme.
[G1 Android Development] cyanogen:
It can also be used to quickly revert back to stock if you flash a theme and it doesn't work or you don't like it.
[G1 Android Development] tekkitan:
I doubt it, I just did that this morning.
[G1 Android Development] catracho99:
dup

lol i feel like hommer
[G1 Android Development] tekkitan:
Yeah I'm on linux. Ubuntu auto-mounts the partition.
[G1 Android Development] tekkitan:
I unmount using the phone. Perhaps that is my problem...
[G1 Android Development] stellarman:
I still get force close / wait twice on each boot. Very annoying. But, I just say wait and it never seems to effect the workability of the program or the ROM.
[G1 Android Development] bkmo:
I am always issued a warning before unmounting from the phone. It asks to make sure that you have unmounted from the OS filesysytem first.
[G1 Android Development] heyoh:
Ok so based on what you said I decided to try it again and after your steps I am up and running with Haykuro's SPL and CM-3.4.4! After the loading the SPL I had to reflash CM-3.4.4 on top w/o a wipe and everything is working fine! That freed up some extra space for me on the internal memory! Thanks!
[G1 Android Development] Denkai:
I'll tell your right now the issue isn't directly related to your Emulators. it could be the Emu is a resource hog and none of your other apps can run like it should and they crash, However I would suggest doing a complete wipe/format SXT3 and do a fresh install and see what happens.
[G1 Android Development] cyanogen:
Having an ext filesystem mounted in multiple places is bad news. I'm not surprised that the system blows up. I need to figure out how to make it ignore that filesystem when exporting via usb_storage.
[G1 Android Development] cyncere:
Cyanogen

I noticed that the music stops/pauses itself when the headphones are disconnected at first I thought the Music app shutdown altogether but when I opened it the song is just paused. This does not happen with tunewiki only the original music app. Other than that no complaints & I have to say after using 3.4.4 for the better part of the day there are noticeable speed improvements overall :D You are the man!

Thank you for making my G1 experience that much better :)
[G1 Android Development] cyanogen:
Yeah, it will work fine.

It's under the "Locale & text" settings menu. Select Touch Input for the HTC_IME.
[G1 Android Development] jj972:
Alright appreciate it
[G1 Android Development] Kinslayer81:
of course you must use the best ROM for you. cyanogen's build is fantastic; but if you want the ramdisk features without switching from 6.0r1, see here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=3837941#post3837941
[G1 Android Development] Kinslayer81:
Re neverending splash screen...

Can you post the last few lines of "adb logcat" ?

I know when I was playing around, if it couldn't mount the ext2 partition and load the dalvik-cache, it wouldn't finish the boot process, but the system was pretty functional from an adb shell; i just mounted the partition manually and all worked great.
[G1 Android Development] Do0zman:
I just got fed up with it reformatted my ext-2 partition and it worked fine after that.
[G1 Android Development] cyanogen:
Yeah, a lot of people with A2SD are getting corrupt ext2 partitions on all the current builds (not just mine) available. The reason is that Android doesn't unmount it when you shutdown/reboot the phone. That's why I added hooks in my ROM to cleanly unmount the partition when you shutdown or reboot.

If you have a Linux machine available, you can also just plug your SD card in an e2fsck it. I recommend switching to ext3, if you can.
[G1 Android Development] M3 SMGII:
great!

Just installed it.

I already have app2sd, how can I move them back to my phone because now I can't see them.
[G1 Android Development] cyanogen:
Well, you can use Haykuro's "special" SPL and get more space on /system, but I am sure you have heard about it bricking some phones..

The next build will be a tad slimmer, so this shouldn't be an issue.
[G1 Android Development] facelessuser:
Yeah, I did read that. I have a PVT, so I may just bite the bullet. You can't mod without some risk.:)
[G1 Android Development] Do0zman:
Are you saying use ext3 instead of ext2? what will be the benefit to that? Less corruption? Im not very keen on file systems.
[G1 Android Development] blacklotos:
i was using an older version of JF and this happened to me too. I also didn't wipe. did it work fro you after you wiped and flashed again?
[G1 Android Development] cyanogen:
Ext3 is similar to ext2, but it uses journaling so there is no file system checking required, it can recover from an unclean shutdown on it's own. But, like I said, this ROM has hooks to cleanly shutdown your filesystems, and AFAIK it's also the only one that will let you use ext3 (although you can still mount an ext3 partition as ext2 if you decide to switch ROMs).
[G1 Android Development] unthinkablehero:
I love the rom... best one that i've tried so far. have appstosd and no problems. my only thing is themeing it. I've tried the aero themes (many of them, and the magic theme) and they just pretty much crash everything. any ideas? would really appreciate it. thanks.
[G1 Android Development] cyanogen:
Could be due to the tiny amount of space left on /system? I am going to free up some more space later tonight. Do you have an "adb logcat" from when the system crashes?
[G1 Android Development] unthinkablehero:
No, sorry, I didn't get the chance to get the adb logcat. When everything started force closing, and freezing, I did a soft reset. When that did not work, I pulled out the battery and tried rebooting. Got stuck at the android logo. Pulled out the battery again, and then just did a nandroid restore. I'm running the rom now without theme. And yes, I did wipe before installing. I'm going to leave it as is. Your rom is one of the best man, really love using it, especially with the pdf viewer (a must have). I have read throughout the thread that other themes work, but I love transparency and the aero look. Don't work too hard on my account cyanogen, your work and all the others are greatly appreciated. But if you do, thanks man.
[G1 Android Development] cyncere:
will there be a non adp version of v3.1
[G1 Android Development] cyanogen:
No, this build will work on your non-ADP device just fine. The only thing it doesn't have vs. the US version is MyFaves.
[G1 Android Development] mer6:
Yep, works fine.

Thanks very much for this, I installed it this morning and it works great!
[G1 Android Development] cal3thousand:
I'm using the modifed ROM and the aero 1.5 theme worked just fine for me. although I had to wipe to get stability after some issues.

I then restored my items using apprestore.bat and mybackuppro. Everything is working well right now... works well with unionfs appstosd2 too.
[G1 Android Development] mrcrs:
okay, so i've been reading and reading this whole thread and i can't seem to find the answer to my questions/issues.

I don't see the SkyInternational widget. Can't seem to find it.

the IM apps look the same as I had before. Google Talk and IM. So where's the T-mobile IM app?

I don't see and difference of the pattern lock from what I had before.

oh and the new VK is way better than the old VK :)
[G1 Android Development] cyanogen:
Yeah, I think this is how it's supposed to work, but it is broken in the default Cupcake build. I patched the framework to properly support HTC's ExtUSB stuff. Personally, I love this because I can just yank the cable when I'm listening in my car and not have to do anything else.
[G1 Android Development] Chahk:
Same here. Dude's latest ROM did the same thing, even though APNs are in the changelog.
[G1 Android Development] tekkitan:
Doesn't it unmount the card from the phone before it let's my computer mount it? Never seemed to effect it before, I think it's just because I started turning it off at the phone instead of unmounting it from the OS (the smart way!)
[G1 Android Development] Denkai:
cyncere, no doubt that is a feature included incase you didn't intend for your headphones to get pulled out. nothing worse then listening to "let the bodies hit the floor" at grandpas funeral and pulling the cord out.

cyanogen, few questions, I know your busy with the builds and all, but do you plan on updating the Recovery menu to include those SD wipe codes I sent you on twitter or ones like them? and I forgot the other one so it couldn't of been that important.
[G1 Android Development] tekkitan:
hahaha now I have to try that. All I need is a funeral...
[G1 Android Development] cyanogen:
It unmounts the VFAT filesystem, but the EXT filesystem can't be unmounted because it's in use. The vold daemon stupidly exports all filesystem on the card no matter what, which is really dangerous. I'm working on this problem now. Your PC should never be able to mount the A2SD partition over USB while it's active. Vold is one of those crufty pieces of Android that is a really good idea but they never finished developing it- it has lots of missing features.
[G1 Android Development] cyncere:
thanks for the quick responses... I can definitely see this being a positive thing to have especially at a funeral :) or in class
[G1 Android Development] dwang:
Any thoughts on porting the latest webkit and javascript engine to android?

I wonder how hard that would be?
[G1 Android Development] tekkitan:
Ahh that makes sense. Then yes, I would agree that is bad :)
[G1 Android Development] cyanogen:
Yeah, there will be a new recovery image soon, after I figure out how to do a Nandroid restore without using fastboot.

Supposedly you can build V8 for android now, haven't tried it yet though.
[G1 Android Development] tekkitan:
is there any specific (or special) way i can move /system/media to my sdcard? or just move it and link it?
[G1 Android Development] jimbo831:
I may give this a try, but losing all my apps again will be a pain. If I understand correctly, a Nanrdoid backup doesn't backup my EXT3 partition, correct?
[G1 Android Development] cyanogen:
/system/media should only have like 4 things it on this build. Everything that used to be there is in the audio resources file linked in the first post (which you can unzip to your SD card and Android will find them).
[G1 Android Development] tekkitan:
I was just wondering because I have my media folder on my sdcard from when I was on JF1.51 and used lucid to move it there. I have some custom ringtones I want to keep. One reason I want to do this is to keep it separate from my music (which I have 8gb of on the phone) so it is easier to pick specific ringtones without going through a thousand songs.
[G1 Android Development] firestrife23:
in regard to those who use linux including myself... my suggestion is to power down your phone completely and remove microSD and use adapter or card reader and mount it from there, safer that way.
[G1 Android Development] prash:
Just chiming in, theme template works perfectly well, and I'm already working on a new theme for the CM ROM...heres a preview (again this is my own theme, its not the theme template in case anyone gets confused)

:D shhh coming soon.
[G1 Android Development] cronin4392:
Im trying to flash my phone with this build, but I am looping at the android screen (the second boot screen). been on it for about 10 minutes. I did a complete wipe before this.
[G1 Android Development] tekkitan:
don't always have that option is the problem.
[G1 Android Development] tekkitan:
what rom are you coming from? do you already have an ext2 partition? mine was doing the same thing, i ended up having to reformat my card (after backing it up) and doing the sdsplit.

to test, if it doesn't go anywhere after another 5-10min, try taking out your sdcard and booting it back up. if it boots, you'll need to reformat i think.
[G1 Android Development] cyanogen:
I just fixed vold to only export the first partition. Will be in the next build.
[G1 Android Development] tekkitan:
you rule!

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[G1 Android Development] firestrife23:
thank you for sparing me from having to shutdown my g1.
[G1 Android Development] cronin4392:
i had been on the dudes 1.3, but i wiped. I wiped my sd card (the ext2 partition) and also tried using ext3, both looped @ the boot screen. ive tried reformatting it and booting back up and it still happens. When i try booting up w/o an sd card still happens.

I have the newest spl (might be hykiros (or however you spell it)). I saw at least one build that said not to use this one for it. could that be causing the problem?
[G1 Android Development] pgarza:
im using this rom + latest spl + latest radio with 0 problems... was using an earlier build... but i decided to try this one, updated without wipe and without problems... flawless
[G1 Android Development] Denkai:
define latest spl.
[G1 Android Development] cronin4392:
hmmm, weird. I was able to fiix it by turning the phone off, taking the sd card out, putting it back in, and updating (alt+s) and not wiping.
[G1 Android Development] pgarza:
Haykuro's SPL is the latest, thought everyone was on the same page :)~
[G1 Android Development] cyanogen:
Android does something special to determine if something should be in the list of ringtones when it scans your media. I imagine it's a meta tag (id3/ogg comment). I'll find out what that is and get back to you :) No problem pushing files there, though.
[G1 Android Development] tekkitan:
You're too nice. I wouldn't have a problem using something like TonePicker or something like that, but they don't make it easy to go through hundreds/thousands of songs to get to my custom ringtones :)

I can just remount it and put them there, thanks.
[G1 Android Development] pgarza:
<3 Ringdroid !!!!
[G1 Android Development] tekkitan:
Thats what I have, but I still have hundreds of songs to go through
[G1 Android Development] DAKIDD236:
i turned my phone off today, and turned it back on and went into a permanent boot loop.. wiped about 30 times and my sdcard wasnt readable. I ended up having to reformat my sd card. any ideas why this happened? i flashed to v3.4.4 earlier today and installed cyans no wipe permissions update, could this be the reason?
[G1 Android Development] andonnguyen:
hmmm curious. I had installed swapper, and i thought that it corrupted my sd card. maybe it was 3.4.4 itself (happened twice in a row after wipes.)
[G1 Android Development] cidica:
Didn't install swapper but I noticed an issue with mine today as well. Went into a boot loop after I removed my sdcard (with the phone being off at the time) When I rebooted I got stuck in a boot loop for about 20 minutes went to recovery ran fix permissions and still nothing (was worth a try)) It did finally reboot but I ended up losing one of my apps to force close issues even after reinstalling it and rebooting again was still force closing on me so just removed it.
[G1 Android Development] here.david:
Yes same here...I just "unmount" it so not to confuse the Vfat, then I got smart and used "label" as 'FAT32' and 'EXT' which showed up when I usb-ed the G1 to my Ubuntu system...however, it was nice to "see" what was going on with the changes...Also, I sometimes boot into Xppro64 (Hava TV does not work in Ubuntu) and do not recall seeing the EXT just the FAT32, been weeks so I might be forgetting...
[G1 Android Development] here.david:
Sorry fast fingers...
[G1 Android Development] tekkitan:
Windows (by default) does not have ext2/3 read abilities.
[G1 Android Development] andonnguyen:
it will probably loop because aufs/union fs is no longer implemented, therefore when you remove your sdcard, the programs linked to the sdcard are no longer found, and android goes crazy (basically) looking for them.
[G1 Android Development] xnycen:
quick question, i just partitioned my sd card to ext3 through paragon, never had app2sd before? what should i do now, i am going to upgrade to 3.44 from 3.4
[G1 Android Development] xnycen:
what's theme template for v 3.4? do i have to update it first before i update to 3.44?
[G1 Android Development] Denkai:
its to make people like you ask retarded questions.

but seriously, it is for theme developers, you as a enduser do not need it or anything from it, you can simply ignore it.
[G1 Android Development] sputnik99:
After one day of heavy use, I still don't have any issues with 3.4.4 and hero theme.

The only thing is a leftover from earlier versions. Everytime I turn my phone from landscape to portrait or vice versa, touch input forcecloses. Any1 else noticing that?

Reason? Help?
[G1 Android Development] mexpress22:
I hope at some point (hopefully before hitting "submit reply") we can all remember we were once a noob. C'mon now...how hard is it to read past a post or feel good about being able to share your knowledge with someone who is just trying to achieve today what you did yesterday. This is not a developer's only forum. Let's try and prove that G1 owners are primarily past the high school era. Show me how cool you are by answering my dumb question instead of proving how dumb you are answering cool.

And most importantly Cyanogen, thank you for helping me fall in love with my G1 all over again every time you post an update.
[G1 Android Development] Audinator:
so I'm having a little bit of trouble updating. I have had 3.2 for a while now, and when 3.4 came out I tried to update, but it kept going into a boot loop and I couldn't figure out what I did wrong, tried going back to 3.2 and booted up just fine. it has done the same with all the builds that have come out after 3.2. if anyone has any ideas on what might be happening here/ how to fix it, I would greatly appreciate it. I have his 1.2 recover image and have done all the combinations of wiping and updating. not sure what is going on! thanks for you inputs!!!
[G1 Android Development] userfriendlyme:
I have to second that. Ive pretty much used it very hard since installing wifi bluetooth, tethering apps widgets i mean all day and i will admitt to one fource close but honestly it was more app relatated then rom. I must say this build has given me the least problems so far.
[G1 Android Development] cidica:
yeah I kinda figured that was going on but the issue was happening with the sdcard in the phone. (ie.. I removed it did what I needed to do while the phone was off put the card back in and rebooted the phone to boot loops)
[G1 Android Development] Denkai:
coming from a guy with 2 posts. lol however, if you haven't noticed, I'm the first one to help a "noob" in distress. I probably piss of the mods answering questions that could be searched. inbox full of Q&A. either case it was a joke, hense the "seriously though" on the second line.

as for me, I've been running 3.4.4 with the PS themefor 48 straight without shutting down, with a twitter widget checking for updates, GPS on, and using apps and toying with terminal, and I'm at 68% battery life. I left it off the charger over night and came back to a phone still at 60% and put it on the charger for 2 hours. still running strong! no crashes for any apps or anything.
[G1 Android Development] pgarza:
bummer.... i usually find a suitable ringtone by listening to my music on my pc, then ill find the song on my phone once ive found the right song whilst listening on my pc...
[G1 Android Development] alritewhadeva:
Past the high school era? I dont think so, I'm in middle school haha :p