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[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] milleracer41:
Hi,

I had an HTC Hermes/T-Mobile Vario II for a few years and was quite happy with it as a handset.

Then came upgrade time from T-Mobile and I decided to go for a non Windows Mobile based handset. I went for an LG Renoir which is "ok" and has a fantastic 8.0mp camera on it but I have now realised I miss my WM based phone.

I'm looking at getting rid of the Renoir + buying either an HTC Diamond/MDA Compact IV or an HTC Raphael/MDA Vario IV.

Can someone outline the differences between these two handsets please?. I know the Diamond has no expandable memory in the form of SD cards and no slide out QWERTY keyboard but aside from that is there any other difference between it and the Raphael?. Is the Touch Flo interface the same on both handsets?.

In short, aside from the SD card and keyboard, are they essentially the same phones?.

Many thanks for any advice.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] ohyeahar:
Probably best to look at the specs sheets for hardware differences...

http://www.htc.com/www/product/touchdiamond/specification.html

http://www.htc.com/www/product/touchpro/specification.html

Don't think there's any other difference in tf3d interface other than the Action Menu (when you slide out the keyboard in tf3d)

Personal opinion: I'm a Diamond user and I can't help but wish that we also got the the extra 96 MB of RAM that TouchPro users enjoy. Glad that Diamond2 users don't have to worry about that versus TouchPro2.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] milleracer41:
Hi,

Thanks for the info. I've now taken delivery of a Touch Pro and have started playing around with it. My old Vario II was running WM 6 so I'm reasonably familiar with that but I haven't really got much of a clue where to start as far as modding the handset goes. Would like to flash it to the latest ROM for a start I think and go from there.

So thank you for the info and I will now toddle off to the Raphael section of the forums and take it from there!!. :D
[Touch HD Accessories] cbreze:
Hi all, did a search using keyword "batteries" and suprisingly found nothing. Question: Does anyone know of an extended battery that allows you to keep the oem cover? I got a slightly extended for my pro (1800mAh) and it fit great , giving me just enough more juice. My HD arrives this week and I know the battery prolly will have a tough time going a full day. I've seen the usual assortment of super batts that take a custom bulging cover. I'd prefer to avoid the bulge.
[Touch HD Accessories] d.cortez:
Mugen Power makes one but it's been out-of-stock for a while... the easiest solution (at least for me) was to get a second battery.
[Touch HD Accessories] Rozenthal:
If it's any consolation, once you go through several charge / deplete cycles with your new battery, you can expect to go through a whole day without much trouble.

Touch HD actually has the best battery life on the PDA market, surpassing even the menacing iPhone by more then 15%!

You can also find very useful apps that will help save the power, such as Lumos, that will automatically adjust your screen brightness depending on ambient lighting. And I can confirm it makes a lot of difference when it comes to battery life.

Also, Mugen sells batteries for HD that have same dimensions as stock battery, but with slightly larger capacity. I bought one for 30$, and I easily go over 3 days with these 2 batteries.
[Touch HD Accessories] cbreze:
Thanks for the feedback guys. It's great to hear that the HD actually has good battery life using the oem. I know for the first few days or weeks I'll probably be using the crap out of it just because I'll be getting used to it and it will be to awesome to put down:D I'll see how it goes and maybe check into muygen if they might have something that fits as is, into the back. Really getting hyped about this HD.
[Touch HD Accessories] ez2remember:
You can also consider a power station which slots in the mini usb slot but makes your touch hd longer but you don't get the bulge. :D

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BATTERY-POWER...0|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1308|301:1|293:1|294:50

You get approx 2.33x the juice.
[Touch HD Accessories] aussiebum:
Hmm, that's interesting - I ordered mine about a week ago, they told me they were "out of stock" until the 25th May, but yet they shipped two days after I got that email and I received my 1500mha battery yesterday! :)

http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/product_info.php?cPath=108_135&products_id=534
[Touch HD Accessories] Celeborn_81:
Just ordered, and mine was out until june 15th!! :(

Are you satisfied with yours?
[Touch HD Accessories] WeeJockMacFeegle:
I go easily 2-3 days on my HD between recharges and normal usages. A few calls and texts and a spot of internet browsing.

Do you guys watch video's or something to make the battery life so poor?
[Touch HD Accessories] cbreze:
Well, after using my HD with the oem battery for the past 3 weeks I must say I am very pleasently surprised that it is working very well for me. I can go a full day with usually a bit left over. I am still using it pretty heavily, just because I can't put the dang thing down. Lol. I'm not sure I'd want to pay to much for a 1500mAh as it seems like not enough of an increase in power reserve. I'm happy with the oem.
[Touch HD Accessories] DRTigerlilly:
i don't even know how you accomplish that...my screen is turned down to the lowest brightness...the 3g radio is off, i don't use wifi or play music or video...and i get a day to a day & a half @ best.

Never, ever seen 3 days
[Touch HD Accessories] 900SS:
I ordered a battery from Mugen.

I received it on friday, but the phone will not charge it.

charge light turns on for about 15 sec the shots off.

when looking at the battery status it shows battery unknown.

I have emailed Mugen about this no reply as of yet.
[Touch HD Accessories] swiftytom:
I charged my HD over night two days ago, so now I'm clocking 2.5 days from last recharge, and it's on 50%. Couple of calls and SMS, 10-15 mins of GPRS internet each day and about 20 mins of GPS in Google maps.
[Touch HD Accessories] WeeJockMacFeegle:
That's the way to do it.

I'm on Dutty's 3.7. I make a few calls, send a few sms's, browse the internet a bit and play a bit of freecell most days. Last time I charged up was Thursday morning, yesterday at 2pm it hit 14%.

Maybe you live a a poor reception area? I've noticed my battery life gets very poor if I'm in the middle of nowhere, far from any cell towers.
[Touch HD Accessories] Celeborn_81:
I usually listen to internet radio and surf to and from work, make a couple of phone calls, have a couple of mail accounts set up. I usually don't run out of battery on a normal day, but if I have to go somewhere special I might listen to internet radio more and surf more and the battery will run out. And if I play any games, Xtrakt or Need for Speed Under Cover, or watch videos I can kiss the battery good bye.

It's a smart phone, so we use it to do all the cool things that a smart phone enables us to do. Sure its gonna drain the battery more and usually it's worth it, but you can fault us for trying to get more out of our devices ;)
[Touch HD Accessories] aussiebum:
yep - been using the 1500mha Mugen for about 2 wks now and it seems pretty good - on avg. get about 10% more charge remaining at the end of the day vs. the stock battery. Work day = a bit of web surfing via HSPDA / GPRS, a bit of gaming, 1hr or so of music and a couple of SMS's and maybe calls. Usually still have around 60% charge around midnight. I do use S2U2 with Suspend Power = ON option.

I've noticed that Windows Mobile phones (in general not just Touch HD) seem to have really poor battery life in areas with poor / no reception - in these areas, it's best to either switch to flight mode OR force GSM only mode on.
[G1 Android Development] rasturn:
Download and and copy to sd card.

http://www.droiddeveloper.com/hrbuilds/htc_ime.zip

from teminal em

$ su

# mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system

# cp /sdcard/libt9.so /system/lib

# cp /sdcard/HTC_IME.apk /system/app

# reboot

setting Local & text and inputs select touch input

from there u can select compact qwerty or t9 etc

have fun!:D
[G1 Android Development] alapapa:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=515822
[G1 Android Development] heatsha:
Hallo do you need a rooted G1???

Thnaks
[G1 Android Development] ninoedgar:
Yes...you do....
[G1 Android Development] wiked1r:
im not getting the predictive text for the hardware keyboard for some reason .. any suggestions?
[G1 Android Development] iammrwizard:
Not sure why, but after you open the hardware keyboard you have to touch the "Type to compose box" and then start typing for it to turn on the predictive text.
[G1 Android Development] wiked1r:
yea after awhile i realized thats what it was .. i didnt touch it but it works now plus i reflashed a fresh jf adp1.5 so everything is a ok
[G1 Android Development] manup456:
Works great extra features is always a plus.
[G1 Android Development] jj972:
Cant get it working. it says "cp: cannot stat '/sdcard/libt9.so' : No such file or directory

Im assuming i have to unpack the zip to my sd??
[G1 Android Development] manup456:
Yeah you need to put the two files on your S.D.
[G1 Android Development] jj972:
Yea i just did.....rebooting as we speak...appreciate it
[G1 Android Development] g1junky:
i installed this through the app installer app from the market and it works perfectly
[G1 Android Development] anddep:
here and easy through the pc

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3797462&postcount=196
[G1 Android Development] Ska8erMush:
hey, so i dont post that much but i got a question!

i have tried adb and using terminal through the phone to put on the new ime but they both say

"cp write error: No space left on device"

i know i have space on my phone over 32 mb

im running Haykuros 5.0.2Hr5-A2SD

is it the build im using or any ideas?

thanks!
[G1 Android Development] bestwebs:
Hi,

Reboot to get back space and try again.

:)
[G1 Android Development] l3wish:
Make sure you don't have select "Android Keyboard" or the new one wont show up :)
[G1 Android Development] mmafighter077:
Where do i find this option?
[G1 Android Development] Ska8erMush:
so i tried rebooting and it still gives me the same error :c

any other ideas?
[G1 Android Development] l3wish:
Settings--->Locale & Text (Android Keyboard)
[G1 Android Development] mmafighter077:
Haha thanks thats what I thought but nothing happened. hmm.

Do the other settings matter?
[G1 Android Development] l3wish:
try reinstalling the apk file. at first mine wasn't showing up and i reinstall it using the eoaAppInstaller
[G1 Android Development] l3wish:
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[G1 Android Development] Ska8erMush:
sweet! i decided to try and update to Haykuro's newest SPL and tried again and it worked this time.
[G1 Android Development] prettyboy85712:
Try the calibration and tell us if it works.
[G1 Android Development] mmafighter077:
Got it... just reflashed jf 1.5 (a second time). Did the commands on the opening post then rebooted.

Then I went to settings > locale & text

I then checked "touch input" and unchecked "android keyboard".

That was it. I got it.
[G1 Android Development] l3wish:
Youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8RUBTQYMS8
[G1 Android Development] limakev123:
calibration not working

how do i get the calibration to work????
[G1 Android Development] n19htmare:
Since I installed this, I'm getting self correction on the ACTUAL HARD KEYBOARD. it's VERY annoying. Any way to disable this, I can't figure it out!!!
[G1 Android Development] Dantehman:
installed from the .apk, jobs a good un!
[G1 Android Development] prettyboy85712:
Noticed some slow down with the error correction. Pretty annoying.
[G1 Android Development] FuMMoD:
How do we uninstall the new IME and revert back to the ADP 1.5 one? This ones annoying the crap out of me.
[G1 Android Development] n19htmare:
I AGREE!!!!!
[G1 Android Development] FuMMoD:
Oh boy, i reflashed the ADP1.5Hr3 rom and all it did was make it worse. now it does a force close every few seconds on my screen.... ****
[G1 Android Development] pershoot:
untick touch input from locale & text menu.

click the back button until you go back to the home screen

open up terminal emulator

$ su

# mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system

# rm /system/app/Clicker.apk

# rm /system/app/HTC_IME.apk

# rm /system/lib/libt9.so

# mount -o ro,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system

# exit

$ exit

if it says device busy while trying to remount system back to read only:

# exit

$ exit

bounce your phone.

your done.
[G1 Android Development] FuMMoD:
Thank you so much <3
[G1 Android Development] sinbot:
On text input fields you can long press, choose input method, and select from the available sooft keyboards there.

Also where can I get the clicker.apk so I can calibrate this?
[G1 Android Development] pershoot:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3791945&postcount=17
[G1 Android Development] KiinG JWD3:
I followed the steps to install the ime but when i typed reboot it said "Not Permited." So i just reboot by turning it off/on with the power button. I wen to system settings and tried to click on locale but it keeps forclosing.
[G1 Android Development] KiinG JWD3:
I put the two files on my sd root snd it stills says no such file or directory
[G1 Android Development] Indianbuddha:
1. I just extracted the HTC_IME.apk

2. Put the .apk file to SD

3. Installed using ASTRO File Manager

4. Go to => System Settings => Locale &Text => Uncheck Android keyboard => Check Touch Input

VIOLA!!!!
[G1 Android Development] nyayo99:
I did the same initially but ...

Check if the keyboard comes up when you search Contacts.

If it doesn't you must follow instructions in the first post
[G1 Android Development] Sistum Id:
How many different versions of the HTC_IME are there actually? I think there is two right? One with the white and dark gray keys and one with the white and dark gray and green keys right, which is the Hero one right?
[G1 Android Development] a1t:
Unzip

Also, if you are like me and do not have adb at work when you wish to try this...remember you can unzip the file from the term emu.

su

cd /sdcard

cd download (or wherever the .zip is located)

unzip nameofzip.zip /destination folder

so...

unzip .HTC_IME.zip /sdcard

Or just download an unzip app from the market. Then follow the rest of the steps.
[G1 Android Development] yozpalang:
I did the same and it is working like a charm
[G1 Android Development] yozpalang:
I tried and it is working
[G1 Android Development] kstar54:
Thank you - this is just what I needed!
[G1 Android Development] the_wookie:
xt9 not working in all fields with HTC_IME

So I have the HTC_IME keyboard working. I am happy to have the compact keyboard back, its one of the things I missed about the BB pearl I came from, but it does not use the xt9 (predictive text) in all fields. such as the google search widget. the search field in maps, or contacts. or the Go field in the browser. It seems to work fine in gereral text input boxes though. Did I do something wrong, or is this a limitation of the keyboard?
[G1 Android Development] raydekok:
running this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=518851

but want the haykuro keys. dit it thru adb and normal thru sd but the keyboard is not there. i dit a reboot but nothing happend. how come? can someone help me?
[G1 Android Development] raydekok:
stupid me....

unchecked the android keys en checked the touch input and guess what... he is there.

:p:mad:
[G1 Android Development] MontAlbert:
i have both checked in settings. If i want to change keyboards i long press on a text box, up comes input method- tap this and i can choose which kb i want....
[G1 Android Development] raydekok:
i can't already tried that
[G1 Android Development] nk111:
Hi, is it possible to get word suggestions in a language other than english? I can't change the keyboard language in the settings of touch input. What would be needed for this?
[G1 Android Development] fairymaru:
Can someone tell why can't I change the HTC_IME in latest Hero of JACman 1.63? cause I was able to change it in the other roms, but I decided to give a try at the new release and it doesn't let me I've tried thru terminal, and with the app in sd, with appinstaller etc...what i'm doing wrong? Ore is it that in this Rom this can't be changed?
[G1 Android Development] ChrisiMA:
Hello,

can anyone help me please... using soulife's rogers ROM which comes with the HTC_IME as a standard.

How can I go the other way and install the "normal" IME instead of the HTC one? When trying to install LatinIME.apk, adb gives me an "Incompatible update" error.

Any help of how to accomplish the installation of the standard IME?

Thnx a lot!
[G1 Android Development] pphi:
So if we install the clicker.apk, does that mean the calibration will work?
[G1 Android Development] setspeed:
I noticed this as well - its a bit annoying, isnt it! Can anyone explain why this is happening?
[G1 Android Development] Paging Dr B:
same here. this htc keyboard is great!
[G1 Android Development] pistolazzi:
Same problem here...

I'd like to use English language for the interface and hardware keyboard, but I need Italian for suggestions and T9, is it possible?
[G1 Android Development] alias75:
Hello. When you install the keyboard so I am "write error , no space left on device" . I root Phone ROM CyanogenMod v3.6.5 (stable) and app on the SD card.

Thank you
[G1 Android Development] rasturn:
htc

CM3.6.5 already has the keyboard with the rom just go into setting and select touch keyboard
[G1 Android Development] beagz:
You have to remove both HTC_IME.apk and HTC_IME.odex from /data/app_s then you can push yours.

Adb shell rm /data/app_s/HTC_IME.apk

Adb shell rm /data/app_s/HTC_IME.odex

Adb push *yourdir*/HTC_IME.apk /data/app_s/
[G1 Android Development] rpcameron:
It's not a limitation of the keyboard, but rather the way in which the text field you are entering text into was coded. The text field can specify whether it allows for word prediction/completion, or if it only allows text as entered in the screen. If it does not specify for word prediction/completion, then it basically operates like a password field that does not mask input.

For a more complete description of what is happening, check out this blog post from the Android Developers' blog: Creating an Input Method.
[G1 Android Development] alias75:
Beautiful. Thank you
[G1 Android Development] mvanwyk83:
Will this keyboard work with all builds?
[G1 Android Development] chevy2627:
where is the htc down load found?
[G1 Android Development] str4vag:
I am using HTC_IME on a my phone. I noticed that everytime i reboot the phone, the haptic feedback aka "vibrate when typing" option get turned on again.

Does that happen all the time? because I prefer using it without the vibrate on.
[G1 Android Development] ytj87:
Same happened with me, re: vibrate comes back on. Finally fixed when I used the fix permissions script.
[G1 Android Development] miamidade:
i had to wipe my phone and i reinstalled and now it keeps FC right after i click Input. i hate the stock keyboard and love this one.
[G1 Android Development] beagz:
Cyan's new rom comes with an updated keyboard. So if you are using one that did not come with the rom it will not work unless it also is updated.

Is there a particular one you want updated?
[G1 Android Development] miamidade:
i was using it fine with cyan v4.1.8 but after i wiped and installed it kept on FCing.. i love this keyboard, the one that comes with cyan's is to small for my fingers
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Husband:
I am currently running one of the latest DCD releases with radio 3.42.50 and am very happy with it, but I cannot seem to find a 6.5 release that is compatible with Telus.

Does anyone have 6.5 running on their P4000? What build is it?

Cheers,
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] drewcam888:
You can easily build your own in PPCkitchen. Then just add the telus carrier file.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Husband:
Excellent - Never done this before so I am following walk-throughs on ppckitchen.org. What are the risks of bricking your phone while using this?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Sirhcchris:
You can just install this rom, http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=512718 Its the newest 6.5 Rom that I know of. Then delete the VZ data settings, install the Good ole DCD Telus cab and Bang! If your not wanting to delete the VZ settings then thats fine. Still works.

This is a very good rom, I have not had to do a reset since I installed it.

Chris
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] fender_bass:
Umm noob here.

1. How would I delete the VZ settings?

2. Where can I get the DCD Telus cab?

Thanks :)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Sirhcchris:
To delete the network settings:

Settings>connections>connections> Advance (tab at the bottom)>select Networks>edit. Hold your stylus on the #777 area until the pop up menu appears and select delete.

Then install the DCD Telus cab. It will reset all the nessary settings to work with telus.

Your good to go!

If your really new to this racket then let me warn you its like using crack! Try it just to see what its like then it will take over your life!

Kidding its not that bad, but be sure to read the wiki and have your boot loader and radio updated after you have recorded your vital serial information like it says to do there. I've never needed to re-enter that info but some ppl here have had to.

EDIT: All Cabs Here: http://dcd1182.n715dp.com/titan/carriers/

Chris
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Prodigyz:
If I have Wifi(personal) and disabled my data transfer, does web usage of the internet use up my data plan?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] stuntd97:
It should not. You need to be very sure that your data is disable though. I call AT&T and tell them to put a data block on the line when I don't have a data plan. It means no MMS (SMS are still possible), but at least you are 100 % sure. Alternatively, I have also just changed the connection settings on the phone (e.g. add an "x" to the end of the line so that it can't connect, etc). But yeah I use wifi all the time and have no data on the Diamond.
[G1 General] bbbblack:
I have been receing emails later then they actually entered my inbox. This began happening with the haykuro H build installation. For example, i have the gmail on autosync, and ill get my email notification at like 2.42 pm, but when i go into the inbox, the message says 1.45 pm. Wtf ? And sometimes i have to force sync b4 i get a new email that was timestamped about an hour b4 the time of force sync. I have cleared my gmail cache and everything, same prob. I did the adb tweaks that enables G sync for gmail, calendar, and contacts in the H build, nothing. I went onto a pc and got my emails alllllll deleted, still nothing. Anyone else experiencing this problem? Is it the H build prob? How does it work for the G build users?
[G1 General] axion68:
I have the official abd 1.5 on my phone and have been getting notifications late as well. It worked fine with jf 1.42. Waiting for the official cupcate ota to come out to see if it has the same issue.
[G1 General] gimiento:
Yes, coming in late for me too.
[G1 General] Phromik:
I have JF1.5 and my emails are fine. I usually get them on my phone before my Gmail refreshes on my PC, as a matter of fact. lol.
[G1 General] bbbblack:
damn

I would get the jf adp 1.5, but the only thing thats stopping me is that that build doesnt have the htc smart dialer, or the extra options that the camera and video recorder have. If i adb push the dialer from h build to jf adp 1.5 will it work?
[G1 General] rickymello:
i have JF1.5 and recieve my gmail late, sometimes i do not recieve at all :(
[G1 General] bbbblack:
**** sucks man... defeats the purpose of push email
[G1 General] agee:
I've only noticed my emails have been coming in late today.

Upgraded to JF1.5 when it came out and had no problems with push gmail. I would call tmobile smartphone support and see if there's anything wrong. Last time i had gmail push problems they were able to manually force me onto a different cell tower which fixed my problems.