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[myTouch 3G, Magic General] rahux:
Hi guys - I've been waiting on the Magic to arrive for quite to aus and now that its about to I've just read about being unable to install apps to the SD card. I note that its possible with some hacks but I imagine this might be a pain in the ass.

So: Am I likely to run into problems with the 512meg internal storage? Would it be wiser that I wait for something with more internal storage (I7500 for instance)? I imagine it could be messy if I wanted to install a local encyclopedia for instance or, more likely, large medical resources, one of which for WinMo is over a gig.

Also a little worried about all this variation between included and available apps between carriers. How easy is it to switch to the original HTC build? Does that break the marketplace?

Thanks!
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] AdamHC:
Yea this is to stop piracy I think.

I reckon they will make some changes in the future to allow us to install programs onto the SD card but not the whole thing so this way people cant just copy it from the SD and have a functioning version of the app. The G2 has 512mb internal as apposed to the g1 with 128mb (i think). This is a lot more but still not enough IMO. I think they should have bumped it up to 2gb or at least 1gb considering it will be the only place we can install applications (well at least for now).

I plan to get this phone anyway and hope that the 512mb manages to be enough for most stuff. And if its not I'll just prey for Google to make some changes.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] rahux:
From my reading it looks like apps-on-sd support is still quite a way down on google's agenda, which is unfortunate. Because of this I was considering waiting for the Samsung Galaxy which has an 8 gig harddrive but then was put off by the 128mb ram it has. We have such an odd constellation of design decisions being made. Wish there was more info available on aussie release dates on the "18 to 20" android phones google expects to be released this year.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] AdamHC:
We're already half way through the year and only about 3 have come out so that means they got over 20 left for the rest of the year lol. I really don't know whether to just get the Magic now.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] rahux:
Yeah I'm really torn too - the decision between a crippled vodafone edition and 3 plan which won't include roaming is a difficult choice. I might just have to wait.. I want it so much too though! bah.

Well - the HTC Hero and Lancaster are rumored to be getting announced soon at an upcoming HTC event in the UK - though I doubt we'll find out any information about Aussie releases there.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Tsanger:
Most of these programs are really small, like less than 1MB, at least what I've seen, so there should be room for lots of apps. I haven't installed to many myself at the moment because I have found anything I want yet. But don't some apps use data? For example, if you were to download an encyclopedia, its just basically a shortcut to quickly look up something using data? I think that's how an app on this device should be since I have 6GB worth of data. I understand it might be an inconvience for some people who go out of the country and would have to pay crazy roaming charges. I live in Canada btw. Correct me if I am wrong about the apps using data.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] SkullKill:
unfortunately, coverage and the amount of data that you get in australia is not as great.... we need offline program support.... :(
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Tsanger:
The is unfortunate, I just downloaded quickpedia onto my phone which is onyl 181kb, but like I said, it uses data to search your requests. Not sure if there are any apps that does not use data from the andriod market.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] miki4242:
Maybe the whole deal with the limited memory is related to Google (and as a consequence Android) being net-centric, meaning they want apps to download their data from the net as much as possible.

An ideal Android app (think Google Maps) would be not much more than a user-interface and a tiny application layer that ferries data to and from the net, like the ideal Google app (think Gmail) is just a Webpage (with all the javascript stuff in it) in a browser window that ferries data to and from Google.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] rahux:
Yeah the web-centricism is great and mitigates the problem somewhat - I suppose the real trouble is that the carriers offering the Magic in australia are 3 and Vodafone - Voda obviously has the crippled version so I want the HTC version released by 3.. but the 3 network is kind of weak and often roams on Telstra where the rates are higher. That would be fine if it was included in the cap and just eat through the credit faster but roaming charges are on top of the cap. So if I pay $99, whenever I jump on roaming it'll all be additional. This would be incredible frustrating. Hmm.. I think I'll wait till July and wait for feedback and news on other handsets. Although I imagine it'd be mitigated by putting big E-books in the SD...
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] AdamHC:
I'm in the same boat as you, 3 are being dogs about roaming. And where I live is a roaming area.

Anything about 3 offering it outright? Then I can chunk in my Telstra SIM...
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] miki4242:
I'm glad you all see my reply in a positive light, actually I meant it to have a slightly sarcastic undertone (hail the Google Empire and such :-) ).

If implemented well, having limited memory but good performance networking would be a good compromise as far as consumer price (fewer and cheaper electronics parts), battery life (less memory = less power drain) and sync advantages (centralized storage in a datacenter: access and sync anywhere, Web access, enterprise-class backup strategy, etc.).

Now if only the carriers would start lowering their data rates...

Maybe by caching app data like Google Maps, Wikipedia, popular websites and such on their own servers instead of sucking it down a large pipe, carriers could lower rates for accessing stuff like that.

Imagine having a very cheap, multi-Terabyte harddrive in your phone to store your encyclopedias, dictionaries etc. (with no need to manually sync or back it up to mountains of DVD's or other harddrives everytime), while still having your really private stuff on SD card.

(whoa, I'm starting to sound like a Google rep :-) )
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] drmosh:
hah I wish I could get 512 megs... the G1 only has 96 megs of internal memory, talk about being cramped, with 512 you'll have excessive amounts of storage and you can just run apps2sd since it's android
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] rahux:
Sounds like paradise miki. Don't worry, I'm obsessed with cloud computing too. My entire life lives in Zoho.com (awesome web-app suite), gmail and rememberthemilk. haha yesterday I went to bed thinking that I'll wait till something comes on another carrier.. then woke up this morning thinking I'll just bite the bullet and buy it on 3 :)

Damn the sex appeal of this phone. I know a lot of people love the I7500 Galaxy but I really don't.. and it has less ram too (128)..
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] gonucks:
Agreed, mine is black absolutely love it. Pure sex
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] AdamHC:
That does sound pretty sweet but I think I would still prefer to have the ability to have certain things like my apps saved onto my phone. But then again, as long as it would be error free and fast to download the data I wouldn't mind so much.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] rahux:
Yeah, there are a couple of things I'd definitely want to access locally and one of them is a solid GPS program. Data-centricism is all well and good but if you're travelling (both in rural Australia and overseas), roaming charges would be too high to make web-based GPS navigation feasible. Similarly with a translation app.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] gonucks:
I agree a data free GPS program definitely interests me. Problem is who is gonna develop one knowing that Android wont run(natively) Apps from SD??
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] rahux:
You never know.. TomTom just released a version for the iPhone I believe (granted it took them a hell of a long time to get to it).. and some of the WinMo mapping software are comparatively small - destinator is ~80megs with Aussie maps which isn't tooooooo bad to fit on the Magic.

Fingers crossed
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] x86:
What is the diff between the voda and 3? I mean I'm with Voda, so wat u mean 'crippled'.. I'm thinking on getting this by june 30 to get the 3mths free access..
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] AdamHC:
The Vodafone version has only 192mb of RAM whereas 3 and all the other ones have 280mb or somewhere around that.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] cedricberger:
Anyone knows the real ram available in the Samsung ?

Because for example, in the Magic/Dream with 192M, there is only about 96M available for android apps. The remaining is for the system, video,...

Maybe Samsung ram is 128, but in the end also has 96M available (ex. if video memory is on another chip) ?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] bluekieran:
I'm Linux & BSD literate, and used to administering servers, compiling programs and kernels from source. I've also managed to root and flash my Magic, following advice found here. What I'd like to do is gather up some info on how to build ROMs for the Sapphire platform.

I'm already poking around the Android Wiki FAQ and the Dream dev forum on this site. There's quite a bit of info there but some of it is out of date and I've not found much that's Sapphire-specific. I also plan to take apart the .zip files released by Haykuro and others and compare/diff configs to get a feel for things.

My intent is to put together enough info to allow anyone to pull apart a released ROM and replace the dialler, add some language support or some extra apps, maybe make some other simple changes.

What I need is any pointers on:

1. Sapphire-specific info.

2. Any danger of bricking my Magic by messing around with home-made ROMs.

3. Anything else that might be useful.

Hopefully I'll be able to put together a rudimentary HowTo for the wiki, which others can add some fine-tuning and extra info to.

Thanks for any input.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Amon_RA:
I think this is a very good idea!

It would simplify things if everybody would understand how exactly custom ROMs are created.

1 - Be aware that there are different Magic HW versions...

2 - I don't think you can brick your magic as long as you make backups via nandroid.

3 - A few things I think should be in the wiki :

- how to completely setup a linux environment and which applications you need to be able to build custom ROMs.

- Explain how the android OS is working, explain what boot, hboot, recovery, system is, how the partitions work, etc..

- What are test-keys, what is the difference with and release-keys.

- How to sign.

- How to dump the recovery.img, boot.img without having root access.

- What to change into the recovery.img and boot.img to get root.

- How create an update.zip

- How to make backups with nandroid and how to restore them..
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] fxn:
Agreed think this would be a fantastic idea, unfortunately it seems like the people in the know are not willing to share any of their knowledge =o(

Do keep us up to date as to what you find by dissecting the ROMs, had a look the other day briefly but didn't have time to play yet,

Also waiting for info/confirmation that as long as you just flash bad roms its not possible to brick your phone only if you play with SPL's and such
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] bluekieran:
Oh, I'm sure the knowledge is scattered around the place - sharing is one thing, bothering to document is quite another!

The only thing I don't expect to find openly shared is traceable leaked material, and frankly I can live without that.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] parcsalooc:
I currently have the NFL Mobile program installed on my Fuze and was wondering if there was any way to get Sprint's NHL Mobile on my phone? If not, is there anyone who can make a cab for it?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] lbhocky19:
i would love that as well
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] thesilentnight:
theres a cab floating around called getsportz....its on fuzemobility.com...it basically gives you up to the minute scores and reports on all major sports...including hockey...it does connect to the internet, so you need a data plan, but i use it and its nice....
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] lbhocky19:
i tried getsportz and it installed but everytime i go to get scores it doesnt do anything?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] thesilentnight:
Click the refresh button at the bottom of the screen..and it will give you the most recent score (s) for your particular sport
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] noellenchris:
Do you have the NFL mobile cab file? I also would like to find the NHL one....:( I do have the Nascar one though.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] supersobbie:
Man great call... I have been looking for an app like this. it is the only ports app that I can find. only down part is on the latest 6.5 the live baseball feed seems to be screwed up. possibly something to do with vga vs qvga... or somethin'. It is a great program none the less.

Thanks,

SoBBie

PS I have the latest Energy 3.0 ROM (6/5) and that version is what broke it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] OK Dog:
Is anyone having problems running any of these programs in 6.5? When I used Nascar Mobile in 6.1 it let me use all of the features track pass and everything. After switching to 6.5 it says my device isn't able to use those features.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] thesilentnight:
There are a few programs that will work on 6.1 that wont on 6.5. Im using RRE 6.5 v5 and getsportz works nicely. Perhaps the rom you are using just isnt compatible with this app.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] jeksparo:
i just confused , my BA all function normal .

any problem in lcd. every myBA i shake screen like green light vibration or grainy on menu panel and color red is domination in center. but if BA freeze is nothing happen

how to fix this problem?

sory my english:p
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] bad.boyz11:
Probably the phone flex cable or the LCD's flex cable.. (can be any other thing)

Mine got flicker when I slide the screen up(upper part of the phone), and going normal when put it back to Slide down. already change the flex cable (phone flex cable) and nothing changed, not change the lcd flex cable yet, seems the lcd flex cable fixed with the lcd.. :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] magius00:
Yes it does have keybaord sliding sounds however they are in genral quite loud but if you want them or just for some fun and to save some forum trawling the best pack I found is avilable here.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=382966&page=10

It won't overwrite your existing sounds however you won't get the transformers or r2d2 sounds i don't know if someone wants to modify to get these working again of anything.

I belive thansk for the pack goes to BzeBwoi.
[General Questions and Answers] ankurchauhan:
help pls..

i installed a software Smart.Inbox.v2.05.14. for having password for inbox and that crap program changed my inbox to non-conversation view

i uninstalled it .yet no effect

when i look at registry then there was no OEM registry (it was before as i have edited the registry before once to see non conversation view but i did not like it so i switched back)

so i made a registry oem and then create a new D Word named SMSInboxThreadingDisabled and set its value to 0

yet when i restart there is no effect .. what do i do ...

help

i have uploaded screen of registry also

i need conversation view back... waiting for ur reply
[Wing, P4350 General] Kernel Jag:
Hi Guys,

I'm using a sole Herald for testing, development and as my main phone. Having used the Android emulator which came with the SDK, based on QEMU, it got me thinking..why can't we develop an emulator for our OMAP850 based devices?

I don't come from an embedded systems/electronics background, so any pointers will be greatly appreciated! My specific questions are, what would be the hurdles to overcome?

Many thanks in advance!!

EDIT:

Quite interestingly, something similar has been done for a Nokia tablet, and for the very same purpose I intend using the emulator for (porting Android to our Wings and Heralds)!!

Here's the link: http://www.newlc.com/en/eeedroid-emulator-nokia-tablet-desktop-ready-test-android
[Wing, P4350 General] Kernel Jag:
41 views and not a single reply??? :(

C'mon all ye experts out there, suggestions please!!
[Wing, P4350 General] rstweb:
I had this idea a year ago and I've searched a lot about it. Theoretically it is possible, but who has time to do this? AFAIK there is an emulator for the OMAP850 out there, AFAIR opensource. There should also be some other emulators who have things like wi-fi ready. It should be possible to "put" these things together. I only have two problems: 1. I haven't already programmed such things and 2. I don't have enough time to learn how to do that.

But if there would be an emulator... It would be great! :)
[Wing, P4350 General] Kernel Jag:
Hi rstweb,

Thanks for the reply/lead. I searched for AFAIR opensource but couldn't gather much. Do you have any links I could use??

Any help will be greatly appreciated!

Many thanks..
[G1 General] jgu71424:
my phone is looping because i intalled a theme and it had an error on the update. i was wondering is there a way to get the file that i downloaded which was JF from my desktop to my G1?:confused:

ADB is working when my phone is looping.

Thanks

EDIT: PLEASE MOD CLOSE THREAD THANKS
[G1 General] Sicraven6:
hey man,same thing happened to me once.Your best bet is to get the sd out and put it on their from a reader or something like dat.I took my sd out and stuck it in my girlfriends's g1 and dragged it on there like dat.hope that helps
[G1 General] Senorkabob:
Boot into recovery mode

Open cmd prompt, type

adb shell

echo /dev/block/mmcblk0 > /sys/devices/platform/usb_mass_storage/lun0/file

EDIT: Sorry forgot to mention this will mount your sdcard in windows through recovery mode.
[G1 General] brandenk:
The command to send your file from your computer to your SD card is in my thread here.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=517874

adb shell mount /sdcard
adb shell rm /sdcard/update.zip
adb push *filename* /sdcard/update.zip
[G1 General] jgu71424:
where do you have to put the file i have mines on my desktop do you have to put it in tools...Also do you have to mount it?

Never mind i got it you have to put the folder in sdk/tools..

Thank you all for your help...

THIS IS THREAD CLOSE
[G1 General] rjhay22:
Edit: Nevermind this... I figured it out :)

A little help plz, how bout trying to push files to system\app? I'm trying to push HTC_IME.apk to system\app so I can use the new skin for it via Metamorph, But It says read only files... I already did remount but still didnt work... Anything I'm missing here?
[P3400 General] lucasbasso2:
he i dont speach inglish i am Brazilian but i need one rom wm6 or wm6.1 for htc3401 in portuguese or inglish preference in portuguese pliss send links tenks

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------ola pessoal que le em portugues eu to precisando de uma rom com wm6 ou wm6.1 de preferencia em portugues mas em inges tambem serve obrigado

mande links porfavor
[P3400 General] ramersonw:
Hi Lucas,

Here in the forum you'll find a lot of roms, but all of then are WWE (English). Do a search in gene upgrading section.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ola Lucas,

Aqui no forum vc ira encontrar um monte de roms, mas todas elas estao em WWE (Ingles). Busque na area de upgrade do gene que vc vai achar.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] andrewgordo2:
Hi All

I am in Taipei and i want to purchase a Magic.

They are unlocked but have chinese as a main language.

I can change text to english but phone leypad and other items are still in chinese.

How can i purchase and convert to full english?

Thanks
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] firecrac:
i do think it is possible,

root ur phone, and install the 6.0 rom from haykuro, it's multilanguage but dont have chinese built in currently

http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting <--rooting

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=518894 <-- 6.0 Sapphire

but wait... we need ur tw HTC Original firmware for the MS Exchange and PDFviewer... i might need u to do a backup on ur system for us first..

gtalk me taufun@gmail.com
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B1CEP:
Hi Guys,

Can anyone tell me how I can out a short cut for a program i have on my memory card on to my start menu, I have searched but not getting anything back suprisingly :-P

Cheers
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] paalkr:
Hi!

Well, I wonder how good you have searched, because one simple google site:xda restricted search gave the following results:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images

I would recommend the Link Creator 1.4, it has a lot of good features.

Regards,

PK
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B1CEP:
Thanks buddy, I did search, but i used the advanced search option, to seach just this site :-P il use the google option in the future.

Nice one!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] paalkr:
You're welcome :)

Regards,

PK
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HandySpanner:
1. Find said program in File Explorer. Hold down stylus on it then select Copy.

2. Go to \Windows\Start Menu\Programs. Either hold down the stylus in a blank area of the file list or select Menu/Edit (you'll have to scroll the menu down), and select Paste Shortcut.

Job done.
[General Questions and Answers] RytisRtz:
Phone: HTC P4350

Hey there,

I have very weird problem with JAVA. Apps installing works, I can see installed things on list, but when I trying to run it, it shows only white screen and makes "error sound", but I can't see any error, only "OK" button on toolbar.

How can I fix it?

--------------------------------------

On other app I got this error:
[General Questions and Answers] denco7:
Look here for everything Java, and the Zen Master of Java.
[General Questions and Answers] defcomg:
Try Another Version of jbed http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=407667
[HTC Vox] Pikranus:
Hello,

I'm a happy user of HTC Vox, but after a year I felt that the battery lasted much less than it used to. I thought it was natural, but once I had the phone discharged to 0% and surprisingly it still worked! The power indicator shows 0%. I launched TCPMP in loop mode with a video file and found out that it could work for more than 1 hour after 0% charge. I guess the battery is all right, but its internal controller has the wrong values for battery capacity for some reason.

So my question is - how can that be solved?
[HTC Vox] iamcrazi:
I'm no expert, but try discharging the battery completely and then recharge it fully. Do that for a couple of cycles and that might recalibrate it to show charge status a bit more accurately.