yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G1 General] AndroidAutobot:
You make a good point, (and I'm still off topic here which further proves your point lol) however, the shhh thread was turning into another saphire port thread. I'm not talking about off-topic discussion such as this. I'm talking about COMPLETELY off topic discussion that HAS a destinctive thread already set up and is thus being mis-posted in a thread not relating to the subject matter what so ever.

There is STILL far far FAR more on topic posting here than on that thing and all the saphire jabber was absolutely annoying me when I was trying to skim through the masses of irrelevant jargon (that should have been posted in the saphire ROM thread to begin with) just to find one or two posts about the Hero ROM. So naw, I wouldn't exactly call this thread pointless as you claim. I'll still be scoping this one out for Hero information cuz the second someone STARTS to post anything that should be in a spahire thread they're shut down and I appreciate that. I don't understand how people don't have the sense to just go to the appropriate thread. It's like going to Marvel Forums and posting about Spider-Man in a Wolverine thread for f---s sake.
[G1 General] AndroidAutobot:
Ha ha ha. You gave more than just him a scare lol =) Good to know =)
[G1 General] doooshty:
I agree...and that was the non-douche way of saying what I was thinking.

Its not like I was asking questions about sapphire here...just telling someone to be patient about waiting for the hero ROM.

Thank you by the way for your correction. I knew it was excel however I was on my 23rd hour of being awake. Lol. Atleast right before it I stated I wasn't good at many things:D
[G1 General] CBowley:
Not off topic
[G1 General] Jrbourque:
What is that video? I can't watch some you tube links at work
[G1 General] newbie2006:
hahaah thats funny but GAY dude - hahahahhaha you got me, i was like oh damn a new hero video, but indeed you did post HERO...

Hahhahaha
[G1 General] pychobj2001:
THESE MEN are also not off topic. they share the same feelings as all of us on this thread, minus the prison part....
[G1 General] DVS_Sokar:
Just to clarify doooshty.

Twistedumbrela's post was relevant to this thread. However all your post have not.

If you do not have any constructive information about the Hero Rom. Don't post. I don't personally like your attitude towards the users of these forums.

Developers expressing a opinion about the Hero Rom are more then welcome to give there impressions.
[G1 General] doooshty:
To clarify, I stated that his post was a REPLY to a post that was not on topic. I agree, his post was a very nice one. Funny that my post was maligned by you, yet it help create a relevant post. Again it proves my point that you over-reacted about my post.

What users do you speak of? I very rarely post anything, most of my posts were dealing with my theme competition. I have no problems with anyone, not even you. I simply think you need to relax. Its not like I was asking advice for the sapphire here...I was posting about the hero Rom was I not? I will try to be a productive member of this thread from now on.

I'm sorry for any problems.
[G1 General] mr2man07:
An ETA for the rom would be really nice, hint hint ;)
[G1 General] Sheraz150:
More information on this would be nice!
[G1 General] Lieu10ant:
ETA = September 09.
[G1 General] froggg:
Does anybody know if the music player has an equalizer.

On another note i cant believe how out of hand the hero rom has gotten. I don't understand why we are being left in the dark, and i don't understand why the open source essence is not being exercised. The whole point of android was open source, or at least that's what i thought. I understand that things take time, but i don't understand why someone else who might want to work on this cant.
[G1 General] mr2man07:
In a sense I agree with you, this rom could have been done in possibly half the time if many people were working on it and not a group of 4. But, they are the ones who have the rom and had the hookups getting it so I guess it's their choice. Also probably has to do with watermark. Don't want some idiot posting it up with watermarks all over it and costing our source his job.

Its not like they can't mention it to us, this "code of silence" is more than likely a group thing. I think HTC already knows this is out in developers hands already with articles appearing on Gizmodo, Engadget, BoyGeniusReport and many other tech sites. Not only that but I'm sure an HTC employee has seen this site and possibly the Shhh thread.

But what do I know, I'll just sit back and wait for now I guess. Though I did notice that on androidin.net the topic said the rom is complete but some poorly translated words kept me from fully understanding some other stuff.
[G1 General] Gimpeh:
True android is about open source although the firmware build they have is full of watermarks which if not removed could cause someone to lose their job, would impede us from getting future firmware updates like this. I think everyone should just remain calm and wait while either the watermarks are removed or all of the new features are implemented into current builds.
[G1 General] froggg:
I would hate to see somebody loose there job, that would be horrible especially in this economy.

Does anybody know what the difference is with the ui. It looks the same to me just with better apps, and widgets. I wouldn't be surprised if we seen these features pop up in the market soon. That's just my thought
[G1 General] shockd:
From what I remember it's little changes (not talking about Rosie here) such as a black status bar, changes to music and calander apps, etc. Hopefully more stable and faster :D
[G1 General] twistedumbrella:
Music has no eq built on but does support purchased content like iTunes. The darkness comes from the lack of knowing what will happen, least from what I know. Mind you, I don't talk to haykuro tho so his reasons may differ.
[G1 General] mr2man07:
Such as legal issues or what?

Thanks for your input, any news from a higher up dev is better than no news
[G1 General] twistedumbrella:
Less legal issues and more development of the OS itself. When this all started it was similar to pictures of a new phone. More blueprints and glamour shots than actual production specs.
[G1 General] Baldyman1966:
Could you all take a moment to visit the thread below, Its a poll regarding a donation app I have written for Haykuro

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=519407

Please note, this thread is not off topic, Donating to Haykuro will speed the development of the Hero Rom.
[G1 General] wugui:
htc hero?

http://twitter.com/haykuro/statuses/1919183596

for everyone BEGGING for the rogers rom.. get me it and i'll port it. haha. i can't pull roms out of the air ;)

7:26 PM May 25th from web

guess that someone just leaked him with the hero rom and wanted him to install it? but im sure he aint working alone.
[G1 General] twistedumbrella:
You'd be surprised..
[G1 General] twistedumbrella:
I honestly don't think we should be so quick to fill this kids bank account till there are more than pictures. Most of the proof we have is video taken directly from the device image. If anything we should be donating to xdan for that. It ran in the state shown long before haykuro even received it.
[G1 General] runderekrun:
Hate to nitpick (if I am) but does is the video really famous for "having a reputation of the worst kind" (the definition of infamous)?

Is the video generally looked down on for some reason (honest question)?
[G1 General] mr2man07:
Yes because it was the largest tease so far of all Android history!
[G1 General] johnnylicious:
hope haykuoro can release more goodies to keep the hype up it seems sorta dead since the past few days.
[G1 General] RaQHoliday:
Honestly I somewhat hope the hype dies DOWN lol. Like, I'd really be perfectly fine with hearing nothing else about Hero until the actual ROM release. Keeps the thread much cleaner and makes it easier to find actual information about the release when there are fewer posts... well, like this one lol.
[G1 General] Vision77:
I think he should honestly hold a cnn press conference on the Hero State of the Union. :D Nah just a weekly progress report would be cool. Give him time.
[G1 General] nolageek:
Wow.

<sarcasm>

Yeah, cause we all know "this kid" hasn't provided us with anything except a few screenshots. Haykuro hasn't done anything for the community, we shouldn't give him anything until he actually contributes something, eh?

</sarcasm>
[G1 General] Jrbourque:
For real twisted you have been all over his nuts for a while now when you got into it with him.
[G1 General] mr2man07:
He has a point. XDan deserves just as much credit and donations as Haykuro for the **HERO** build, but Haykuro deserves it for the regular android and 1.5 builds.

He's saying that Xdan pretty much gets little credit for how much road he has covered with the Hero build. If I can ever find out which user on here is Xdan, then I would love to thank him and send a donation his way.:p
[G1 General] Jrbourque:
im not saying that xdan doesn't deserve any credit because obviously he does. Its just that it seems that he is trying to divert the credit from one to another when they both deserve it
[G1 General] mr2man07:
It is true they both deserve it, but it seems that without Xdan, a lot of this wouldnt be happening, and when this ROM releases, well, I can't explain how happy and thankful I will be as well as this whole community for of all their work.
[G1 General] twistedumbrella:
I am not saying haykuro hasn't done anything. Donate to him for 6.0 if you like because that was good work on his part. And in all fairness when someone calls you out for not crediting your source and then does the same it's only fair..

I beleive it's x140dan on here. I just hate seeing him left in the dust. It's also hard for most users on here to know what goes on past HTML XML and php to understand why things get posted. And I quoted who I did because at least someone understood it wasn't about a "rivalry" that, at least for me, was dropped right after everyone said their piece. It's about making sure we know our whole "ohana"
[G1 General] nolageek:
I'm sure there is a reason he's not going around trying to get credit for his leaks. :)
[G1 General] jonnybueno:
"Ohana"? That word means a lot where I come from. Those are nice sentiments and I agree. ...if xda was run by Hawaiians, we could expect the hero rom by Xmas
[G1 General] xMemphisx:
About an hour ago:

Bummer.
[G1 General] chicojd:
I'm going to guess that Haykuro is going to get an A+ in computer science! Finals this week? SUX but I'm sure it's easy when you're a genius!
[G1 General] chicojd:
Precisely why I REFUSE to load a twisted ROM. Bitter troublemaker.
[G1 General] nolageek:
Furthermore, I have no idea where twisted gets off saying haykuro isn't crediting xDan.. XDan's name is dropped all over the place.

and yeah, Haykuro never gives anyone credit:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3713324&postcount=1

Perhaps Twisted is just upset no one talks about his ROM anymore.
[G1 General] froggg:
Whears your rom ****. Twisted knows much more then you
[G1 General] xintrc:
Yes, I think xdan deserves a thank you from us. I've got his paypal and the donation link is provided below and in my signature.

So anyone want to buy him a beer, feel free to do so.

You also can send him a thank you msg, his user name is x140d4n.

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webs...onationsBF:btn_donateCC_LG.gif:NonHostedGuest
[G1 General] DVS_Sokar:
I Wish I had the power to at least moderate a thread I created. Because again I find myself telling you PLEASE only discuss HERO ROM related material. Discussions about the author or speculation about the author does not qualify as HERO ROM talk. Unless you are quoting information from him about the Hero ROM.

Please Repect the users of this forum and keep this thread to relevant information about the HERO ROM.

Thank you
[G1 General] twistedumbrella:
Way to dig up a past thread I admitted to posting while I was a bit angered by the way things were going, which if you read above I said was dropped within a day...

What ROM? I never made a ROM. I just combined parts of other ROMs to save the end user the trouble of scripting tons of adb and cp commands to get the same result. Read the thread, then take shots at it.

Noone needs to talk about my remixes, because Haykuro found the time to complete 6.0. As I stated in my own thread, my update was simply a filler until that time came. I'm on to more important things...

http://twistedumbrella.googlepages.com/SDC10350.JPG
[G1 General] ynghova187:
twisted u bastard how is that rom
[G1 General] twistedumbrella:
VERY incomplete. I promised a friend I would not release anything until the time came, but we are working to get somewhere with it. I can only really answer general questions. I am not working with Haykuro, but I have heard he is making good advances. Like I said before, I just don't want to throw a party because I know where it stood when it started and it wasn't a whole lot more than a magic rom with pretty colors. At the same time, I will be the first to offer the praise if this kid can pull the Launcher UI out of his @$$

As for the ROM itself, on my end we are just working to make it stable enough for an official release. My thought is that we don't want another case where 30 threads arrise saying "...doesn't work" or "Can't get..."

Just a side note: The ROM was a lot like one of the blueprints for a new phone. A lot of frameworks and shells with no real features up and running. Just getting what works working was a huge jump for the guys over at androidin.
[G1 General] ynghova187:
That makes sense. so from your incomplete version what dosent work. Like what major element is missing where everyone wouldnt be able to use it
[G1 General] CBowley:
He said he promised a friend he wouldn't release anything until it's time, I think he meant info also as right under it he said he can only answer GENERAL questions.
[G1 General] ynghova187:
Yea i know i asked a general question. I didnt ask anything hard or complex or something that he couldnt answer like for a example he could say the dialer dosent work or cant receive emails my question was real general. Oh but here is a complex question does your version of hero have rosie ui
[G1 General] xintrc:
What is Hero related? Do any of you have any infos on Hero ROM? NO.

xdan=hero, without him, no HERO ROM, no h6.0, no hspl.

xdan is THE Hero.
[G1 General] _nobody:
can anyone tell me why my calendar doesnt look like the one in the video?
[G1 General] m00b3rt:
you don't have that build.

it's the Hero.
[G1 General] mr2man07:
Thanks Twisted for offering time to stop by and give us some information on your hero build. Its a nice relief, even if its not fully functional, to know that someone is giving us an update.
[G1 General] twistedumbrella:
Launcher is not the one from the videos. I am guessing it was still under development when they released a test version. Looks more like a recycle of the magic UI. Bluetooth and flash don't work as listed on androidin.

There were a lot of crashes when using anything that required decent memory consumption because of the size of the image. Almost 72 megs before I added apps to SD and some apps still crash if you rush things.

Social components are missing along with network sharing. Calling currently doesn't work, as you get that five seconds before a disconnect. Not to mention the lack of all the extra little scripts people have become so accustomed to...

I should also mention the boot it came with is incompatible and the one edited to run it on the G1 does not allow for a whole mess of operation either. It is just missing bits and pieces honestly, but they are enough to frustrate any user.
[G1 General] twistedumbrella:
As for earlier posts, I need to clarify that Haykuro is working his ass off, but on the Magic. Right now the Hero build is at a stand still. It is a "leaked" build so there is only so much that can be done without the necessary components. I don't have anything against him, I just don't want to see anyone take a bow and leave the stage before the movie starts. Call it motivation...
[G1 General] mr2man07:
No problem dude I completely understand. I know that, at the moment, you devs are way ahead of me as far as programming goes, and I know that programming is not as easy as one may think. I am very interested in learning how to program and I'd love to help you guys, but unfortunately the only thing I can help with is networking equipment.:p

I can wait patiently, its just the lack of updates that is killing most of us.:)
[G1 General] x140d4n:
i might throw the incompleted version out soon .. haha.
[G1 General] DVS_Sokar:
Hell I am sure you will have a ton of peeps jump on it.. DanX can you list what is complete and isn't.. Just to have a bit more info on what is going on in the build that is being worked on?
[G1 General] ynghova187:
i would love an incompleted version
[G1 General] Jrbourque:
thats the best news we've heard in a while lol
[G1 General] x140d4n:
any one who interest in the original hero rom . pm me.
[G1 General] Rayman0625:
I'd like that too, just to know what's going on with the build.
[G1 General] wwwhershcom:
this would be so much eaier to read if it was in english, but thanks either way.
[G1 General] l3wish:
So is beta which it was release by vincent
[G1 General] Jrbourque:
gps not working in maps for me
[G1 General] Baldyman1966:
I think you should say Incomplete Buggy G3 Rom has been released, with a misleading picture at the start of the thread.
[G1 General] Rayman0625:
That release shouldn't have been released in my opinion. It's way too buggy and has too many issues to be thrown on phones.
[G1 General] jmon777:
This is cool. Its not done and a little slow but not bad, but I have a qestion. With only 23 mb left on the phone with all the other goodies this roms is supose to have will it fit on the phone?
[G1 General] funbacon:
For everybody can't see the download link :)).

Do you love me ???????????
[G1 General] darthspartan:
I got it flashed it made a video so you could see it posting on youtube now. Yes its flawed but shows promise.
[G1 General] kronosx1:
I'm loving this Rom. So far I have had 0 issues. Sure its missing rosie, but it still looks so much nicer than standard UI. I don't use GPS so that's no biggie for me.
[G1 General] l3wish:
Build Status

So here is how it would go..

α-β-rc-1.0 Right now is on B=Beta

Some screenshots
[G1 General] Baldyman1966:
Ok we need a full report. My main questions are

Does e-mail work?

Does Exchange synch Work?

Do phone calls work?

Does Google Sync Work?
[G1 General] teenfaces:
email works

exhange don't know

phone calls work

and htc sync with pc works
[G1 General] theslam08:
They both have gotten VERY good at this following JF. They should just work together to make it amazing. Less work for both of them, quicker it can come out, and the famous saying: Two are better than one [almost always]. And GREAT minds think/work alike, so why not...

Either way, I think these updates are soo much better than the stupid 3.0 update that has almost nothing in it and they waited soo long for. [should know what im talking about]

These updates are actually progressing the cleverness of this OS...niice! :D

THANKS FOR THE HARDWORK!!!
[G1 General] ESKIMOn00b:
Doesn't it say in the same post that says he got the Rom from xda say he WON'T be working on a hero Rom?

My guess is haykuro made some of the tweaks nessicary for the Rom to run on the g1 and the dude will actually be cooking up the Rom for general use
[G1 General] justanothercrowd:
I honestly think Haykuro should release it as he and JF are a notch above The Dude as far as coding go. Their ROM's require less releases/patches to be running smooth in comparison as well.

I like how JF and Haykuro stick to Official feeling releases without a bunch of 3rd party stuff...themes apps etc.
[G1 General] MontAlbert:
thats a bit harsh.... Dude is fairly new to this- i am currently using his release and once i uninstalled dxto pi have had absolutely no issues at all with it..... his is different to haykuro and JF. He uses the ADP combined with the latest android build so he is basically always a works in progress.....

I think this thread is pointless.... everyone likes different things......
[G1 General] theslam08:
Funny, his is just as popular....

They are all good at this point, its extremely ignorant and stupid to say one is better than another.

Obviously they will do what they want, and will probably keep doing what they have been doing. I really hope they do, because its what makes this phone what it is, and the future of it. Dont put anyone down :mad:....

And even if they just collaborate, thats great too!
[G1 General] Joushou:
That comment does sound like TheDudeOfLife is considering working on it, but he usually works on his own build (as in, sources he compiled himself).

Haykuro is usually doing the other->dream porting, and JF modifies original images...

It only fits under haykuros usual work, but if you're curious, just ask the guy...
[G1 General] x140d4n:
yeah. haykuro is doing the porting. dude is making his own.
[G1 General] jaaronmoody:
the dude said in his thread that he's working on the g2 rom
[G1 General] x140d4n:
yeah. he works on the tim g2 rom too.
[G1 General] eghoti1:
i loved this forum because we avoided lame threads like these. please don't make this a regular thing and close this.
[G1 General] xyrcncp:
^^^this. I'm not even that much of a "vet" in this forum and I'm already dreading the number of threads like this.

Why couldn't this go in the "shhhh" thread?

Go ahead, I'm sure I'll get some "flames" for this:

"whateva man, we're excited about this, if you don't like it leave"

"dis is my porn man! I'm into electronicz and ****z."

...but add a little more misspellings.
[G1 General] blueheeler:
AMEN

After all the hard work that each of these guys put into their releases, I find it an insult to knock any of them or any of their releases.

Considering the fact that we've had 1.5 releases for weeks (sometimes months)... and considering the fact the T-Mo can't get their finger out of their butts and do the OTA official update as per their own release schedule, it's astonishing that someone would be highly critical of a ported release that adds more functionality, the features we ask for, tweaks for added performance, the best of the different ROMs combined into easy to install and use packages, etc...

Try ones that tempt you, offer well founded feedback to help (if you so choose), but I sure wouldn't be ungreatful and brazen enough to knock anyone that devotes so much VOLUNTEER time to make things better for all of us.

I see very few people stepping up to the plate. Those that do deserve our encouragement. Nuff said.
[G1 General] eghoti1:
Yea I mean I have been an xda regular as a lurker for years but mostly on the Wizard and other forums. Those seem to have stayed true to the craft but the influx of posters to here regarding the Dream forum from other Android sites has really taken its toll. As much as I love Android Community's forum, this kind of post is what plagues their board unfortunately, and is was a big part of what separated XDA from the rest IMO.
[G1 General] xyrcncp:
I used to post more in AC, but then moved over here as I saw better quality of postings. Don't get me wrong, some speculation and humor is expected in a message board, even some flaming, but c'mon...there's just so much pointless posting a board can take before turning into childish stuff.