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[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] daldroid:
Hi,

any flash image available for TIM devices?

Tried to fastboot recovery-new.img but it doesn't boot on my device (stuck at TIM splashscreen). So I was unable to root the device.

However after getting root access from "adb shell", I've flashed recovery-new on recovery partition, but with the same result: stuck at splashscreen when "home-power" booting. No "warning-triangle", only TIM splashscreen.

Is any original recovery image available for TIM devices?

Thanx

P.S. some more info about TIM Android build:

ro.build.id=CUPCAKE

ro.build.display.id=CUPCAKE.eng.u70000.20090430.225308

ro.build.version.incremental=eng.u70000.20090430.225308

ro.build.version.sdk=3

ro.build.version.release=1.5

ro.build.date=Thu Apr 30 22:53:53 CST 2009

ro.build.date.utc=1241103233

ro.build.type=user

ro.build.user=u70000

ro.build.host=Android-X01

ro.build.tags=ota-rel-keys,release-keys

ro.product.model=HTC Magic

ro.product.brand=generic

ro.product.name=htc_sapphire

ro.product.device=sapphire

ro.product.board=sapphire

ro.product.manufacturer=HTC

ro.product.locale.language=it

ro.product.locale.region=IT

ro.board.platform=msm7k

# ro.build.product is obsolete; use ro.product.device

ro.build.product=sapphire

# Do not try to parse ro.build.description or .fingerprint

ro.build.description=2.15.901.4 146733 CL#30006 release-keys

ro.build.fingerprint=tim/htc_magic/sapphire/sapphire:1.5/2.15.901.4/30006:user/release-keys
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] daldroid:
Recovered my recovery partition and finally built a recovery image (with Nandroid) working for TIM Magic (no more hanging on splash screen).
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] gerazzo:
Hi

I have the Vodafone Dream, and would like to put on the TIM firmware mainly for the option to sync directly with Outlook.

Is somewhere available? probably I'll need also the original Voda Firm (in case of problems to recover the device)

PS: obviously i'm looking for ITA localised Firmware.

Thanks
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] nk02:
forse da qualche parte ho la recovery originale di un tim, domani guardo..

ps: fra qualche minuto ci sarà una bella novità eheh..
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] gerazzo:
Thanka for the TIM recovery!

what kind of new is coming?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] angelsanges:
faccio anche io parte della novità :D :P
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] dakiz71:
hi I am italian too!

nk02 I really do not understand why you try to modify and adapt a roger G1 rom to a Magic device, while Magic rom from TIM is exactly the same thing (mostly done by HTC) and 100% compatible!

can you explain this mistery to me, please?

:)

anyway thank you for your roger v2 rom!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] buffet:
So it is now possible to root TIM HTC Magic and install other custom firmware?

P.S. I saw your guide on creating recovery image for TIM on italian android forum...maybe you could post an English version here? (I think it will solve problems not only for TIM users, but for these Nordic folks who can't root their devices for the same reason.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] gerazzo:
Hi,

have you found the TIM Italy Recovery ROM?

Thanks again
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] nk02:
angelsanges have it :D
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
Yes please...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] buffet:
nk2,

Are TIM HTC Magics sold SIM unlocked? (I'm going to Italy for vacation and would like to pick up one for 449Eur, but I wonder whether it will work with my non-TIM SIM card)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] gerazzo:
Does it exist a NON BRANDED rom? something clean released from HTC...

.... still waiting the TIM Rom link :p

Bye
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] dakiz71:
yes, both Vodafone Italy and TIM Italy sell unlocked Magic phones.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] nk02:
TIM rom have only "TimHome.apk" and TIM APN :)

in the next days i try to build a rom based on HTC TIM rom :) but i promise nothing :D
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] gerazzo:
could you please start posting the TIM image ROM? so I can start to give it a try before to switch to your implemented ROM :cool:

Thanks
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] daldroid:
Hi all, I'm sorry I had no time to answer your questions.I hope to have more free-time in the week-end to work on TIM ROM, in the meanwhile I try to answer your questions in the previous posts:

1) do not flash Vodafone Magic recovery on TIM Magic, otherwise you'll brick your device as I did (now fully recovered)

2) I found a way to recover a copy of TIM's original recovery partition (you saw the small procedure in the italian forum).

TIM Magic has fastboot enabled and you can issue su command in both adb shell and terminal on the device. So the recovery was very easy.

I'll eventually post a guide in english as soon as I can (week-end maybe), but maybe I could post something more interesting...

3) Yes, once recovered my original recovery partition I started working on building and flashing a working recovery with embedded nandroid. It works.

TIM Magic has an apparently newer SPL and radio rom (I've not dumped them, so I prefer to work with original ones)

4) I suspect that TIM Magic is very similar to the sapphire devices being released world wide, that's the reason why I asked Joost to verify if He is able get access on his Magic. Right now it seems no. I had no time to make a double check with him, sorry.

5) I still have not fully understood the differences among TIM Magic (PVT 32A) vs other devices, so at the moment I'd prefer not to release my patched recovery. I'd prefer having some of you to make a dump of your recovery or boot partition and send me a copy to analyze it.

If none of the owners of new devices, not able to fastboot recovery-new.img is abe to get root access to make the dump in the simple way I described in the italian forum (google for daldroid), we could try having a volunteer tryng fastbooting (NOT flashing) a copy of the modded Haykuro's recovery-new which I modded and is working for TIM

6) Right now I have a modded HERO rom working on my TIM, but it still has flaws like no bluetooth and no wi-fi which I had no time to investigate. Sure minor problems (I remember I read a thread about similar problem with a rom porting, so the topic is well known, maybe I'll be able to solve it soon)

I'm sorry I had not enough time to offer you a complete working rom, but I only bought my Magic last week and I'm still learning about android and sapphire internals, you know ;-)

Just to be very clear: the current HERO ROM I'm using is only a test, a quick and dirt patch of Haykuro's release, further modified by nk02 (sorry if I forgot to mention any other involved in this, please correct me).

See you soon,

Daldroid
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] buffet:
Does this also mean that TIM/original HTC Magic users can't just flash custom ROMs which are not signed with some special TIM/HTC keys?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] angelsanges:
yes! right.

the situation is this now!...so if you want to buy htc magic, is better the vodafones one!

here is the originale TIM recovery image dumped by me.

http://rapidshare.com/files/239969779/recovery-orignale-tim.img

i do not assume responsabilities
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] daldroid:
TIM Magic (and it seems to be the same with all A6161 devices, like danish HT Magic) is simply not booting any of the available images I'm aware of).

At first I though they implemented a secure SPL, then I found a way to boot modified images. No special signature required. It may be applicable to other Magics. We could verify this either by:

A) a "blind trial" having someone booting his non-TIM/Vodaphone Magic with a custom image I could prepare

B) helping someone with a different HTC original phone dump their rom, so I could verify if the same customization applied to TIM roms will help them to boot their phone via fastboot. In that case, I could generate a custom recovery image with nandroid which will be working and flashable.

I suppose the problem is the different SPL and radio rom flashed on device. I don't have a copy of them and from my searches they seem to be a newer version.

Right now I prefer option B). But this requires to have root access to the phone. In TIM Magic it's enabled by original ROM (either via adb shell or by installing a terminal on the Magic itself)

I didn't try flashing a different SPL and radio from previous version.

SPL and Radio images are available on the net (Haykuro released one If I'm not wrong), but I noticed our board is PVT 32A, while Vodafone Magic is PVT 32B, so I prefer to find a way to use original SPL and radio until a newer ones are available.

Bye

Daldroid
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] daldroid:
Well, as you published the original recovery ROM, if somene tries to fatboot it on original HTC magics we'll be able to know if they are compatible with TIM ROM.

Something like the option A) I mentioned in my last post.

Beware the image is ro.secure=1 and contains no nandroid, so pretty unusable if not for wiping and reflashing your device (I recommend not to use it for any operation except trying fastboot, which will be safe - battery removal and reinsertion if it hangs on logo splash screen).
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] daldroid:
I forgot to mention that you can use it to generate a working recovery-new. I omit the details. For experienced users like Haykuro it will be a breeze or wait 'until the weekend when I'll have more free-time to finish tests on HERO image, fix not working wifi and bluetooth and help non-TIM HTC Magic users to verify if their phone can be updated to recovery-new.img

Bye

Daldroid
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
I can´t seem to root mine by adb or by terminal from the phone - it just won´t work for me.

I tried the dumped TIM-recovery.img and it works and gives me the triangle for a few secs., but then reboots the phone again back to normal.

I have firmware 1,5

baseband 62.52s.20.18u_3.22.20.17

kernel 2.6.27-dd63d1eb u70000@Android-x01

Daldroid - I tried your guide but at the end; endup with error opening recovery: Permission denied
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] gerazzo:
So there is a guide to try to flash Voda Magic with TIM Rom?

another question: the other rom i've seen for magic are about 40 MB (more or less), this recovery TIM is only 5 MB... can someone explain me the difference between a ROM and a Recovery?

Thanks
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
gerazzo - this is not a rom - but a recovery tool/image.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] gerazzo:
ok I understand it! but since i'm very friendly with this kind of tool for Windows Mobile i only know about ROMs, what they are and how to use them.

So i don't understand the difference.

As on the notebook the recovery partition is used to recovery the non working system. So it means that it has all the files+customization. But how can it be only 5 MB?

Sorry for the NEWBIE questions but i have to learn about this kind of things.

Bye
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] daldroid:
Gerazzo, in htc android world the recovery partition+fastboot offers functions similar to what you are used to find in SPL (or hardspl or uspl).

Fastboot functionality is offered by the android SPL and it's not always enabled on every device. It allows you to flash your rom images like I suppose you are used to do with RUUupdater.

In android devices there are a boot partition and a recovery partition (really there are some more:data, cache, misc).

The recovery partition is a minimum OS able to flash ROM images, wipe your customized settings (like factory reset) and/or apply updates to the operating system by directly modifying the rom image for boot partition.

Just imagine the "flash from sdcard" you are used in WinMo devices.

The reason why it's so small is that it not contains the whole system image. You start in recovery mode (boot from recovery partition) and then recovery tool updates the boot (or any other) partition from zip files which you stored on sdcard.

I'm new to android world too, so I kindly ask anyone to correct me and/or suggesting to Gerazzo some links to study.

Bye

Daldroid
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] daldroid:
I suppose I can say good news for owners of non Vodafone Sapphire-Magic devices ;-)

As you cannot have access as root user, the "permission denied" is correct.

But I'm confident we can have root access.

If you have some sparetime I'll provide more details by Private Message.

If we'll succeed in rooting your device I promise I'll publish a new thread with the correct procedure after getting the thing working.

I prefer not having someone trying an incorrect procedure by reading this thread while "work in progress" and damage their phone by trying to flash any of the current rom images for sapphire/Magic which are simply not working on TIM Magic.

Before flashing any Hero/ion/rogers/whichever rom image, we have to be able to dump the original rom and to be able to start the recovery process too.

Bye

Daldroid
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] gerazzo:
Thnaks for the infos...

So if I have understood to transform my VodaMagic in TimMagic I need non only the recovery IMG, but also the ROM to flash using the recovery. Is that correct?

I've done some research on the net trying to find someone who as done the voda/tim conversion but i had no fortune.

Do you know anything about this procedure?

Bye
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
Thx Daldroid! I´ll PM you tomorrow, grazie..

Ciao
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] amigo80:
I got the same device as Joost39(and the same problems), so if you should need an extra tester I would be happy to help.

/cs Amigo
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
@Daldroid

Your new modified recovery.img worked and I did make a backup through Nandroid - thx.

I´ll send you my files system, boot, recovery.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] angelsanges:
so ....daldroid your methods works :D

give us the ability to play with TIM MAGIC :D
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
Yes knows how indeed! Another great Italian!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cmf:
Woohooo. Original HTC ROM for Magic coming very soon then? Well done chaps!!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] dakiz71:
grandissimo daldroid! ti adoriamo!!!! :D:D:D

awesome job dude! we love you!!!! FORZA ITALIA!!! ;)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] daldroid:
Hi all, sorry to be silent, I'm using all my free time to trying to fix the HERO rom I'm working on.

It should work not only on TIM, but on original unbranded HTC magic devices and I suppose on Rogers too.

My TIM runs Hero since a couple of days, it's fluid but with bluetooth and camera problems (just fixed the Wi-fi, now it works).

As currently released roms I found in the forum won't work unmodified even if flashed using the working recovery I prepared, you can see why I prefer to have you waiting a little bit more than distributing a recovery image which could push someone to try flashing a non working ROM on his Magic.

Releasing a tested recovery and a working ROM (working on Hero, but I'll try to prepare a vanilla-unbranded HTC MAGIC rooted image) should minimize the temptation to flash a non working ROM ;-) We'll see less people worried about his new ashtray ;-)

Bye

daldroid

--- edit----

I forgot to mention that as we use a different SPL from vodafone Magics, it exist the possibility that the older SPL works or not in our devices. Maybe it will allow to boot other firmware images, maybe not, may be it bricks.

The radio code is newer too.

So i decided to have a new rom working without reflashing the SPL. We don't have a backup for our version either.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] buffet:
daldroid,

Any progress? I think people also might be looking for Google Ion ROM since it seems to be the fastest and considering that haykuro doesn't update it.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] daldroid:
Sorry for being silent so long.

I posted a new thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=3917285#post3917285

You can fine a working recovery and ROM (based on the dump from Joost39, thanx again)

I've almost finished an hero rom, but bluetooth is not working (it seems to be a common problem). I'll release it when solved the problem or the delay will be too much for you ;-)))

PLEASE, the roms are not fully tested. Beware!

However you can use the recovery to backup your original rom, simply fastbooting it. NO FLASHING is required.

I've to leave now, see you later

Daldroid
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] daldroid:
As you may have noticed, I released the working daldroid-recovery.img with root access, as well as a ROM based on the original HTC magic.

Based on my images, I'm sure other rom builders can start working on images compatibles with our board and SPL.

Nevertheless I'm working on a Hero ROM, it runs smoothly but has a bug in bluetooth (it seems I already fixed Camera and WIFI problems). I had to stop Hero ROM modding in order to test and release recovery and plain/vanilla ROM (adb shell rooted).

If I'll not be able to fix the bug in a short time (there is a forum in dream development looking at the problem, I've to check the progress) maybe I'll give a try to ION ROM modding.

bye

daldroid
[General Questions and Answers] kkshinoj:
Hi,

I am new to the windows mobile and recently started using an HTC touch.

I would like to know if there is any way i can have additional font styles when i type emails?

For ex : I would like to change a sentence to Italics.

Please help.
[General Questions and Answers] kkshinoj:
HI,

I am new to this forum amd hope u people can help me with my problem.

I have a new HTC touch and i am new to this smart phones.

My problem is whenever i connect my head phone with my phone it automatically dials the last missed call.I will not be knowing it at all.

And it keeps on dialing in loop if the other person doesn't picks up.

Is there any way to diasable this option?

FYI. I am also using SPB shell

Regards,

Shin
[General Questions and Answers] mohamedtarmohamed:
had the same problem here... there is a way to bypass it run the attached cab file
[General Questions and Answers] kkshinoj:
Thanks

Thanks a lot mohammed. I will try this and let you know.
[General Questions and Answers] mohamedtarmohamed:
and go on my website of-course!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] wind79:
I am having problems hearing the GPS instructions, is there any way I can increase the volume of the loudspeaker even more? Currently I set the volume to max but its still not clear at all.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] zhuozhi211:
connect HD to your car's hifi - via Bluetooth, FM transmitter, on audio line connection.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] wind79:
Is there an easier way like changing registry keys or installing some cab files to boost the volume? Pardon my ignorance, its a new sound system for me, and I am not familiar with audio system in general... Btw, will I still be able to listen to radio or cd if I change the source for the hifi to the HD?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] darfri:
[APP]

Where is the app you created?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] wind79:
I thought [APP] means application related thread? Sorry, I am still very new to this forum...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] edtham:
Do you use a bluetooth headset?

If yes you could probably use the app listed in this thread.

I find it useful since it pushes the voice instructions straight to my bluetooth headset while I can still play my music in the car.

Hope it helps! :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] laurentvdk:
On the site of HD Tweak, you can download a light or full volume boost:

http://www.montecristoff.com/goodies.htm

Hope this helps.

:cool:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dikp:
hello i want to unlock my phone raphael can you me help please thank you
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Radim_S:
Unlock

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=448008
[XPERIA X1 General] maguss:
Hello gyus, I've been looking through this forum and haven't been able to find out how to set up tiny time and date in top panel (wisbar). I don't want to replace battery icon with time through setting and also I don't want to install any 3rd party soft like Wisbar Advance which consumes memory. Thanx in advance for any advice.
[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
WisBar is worth it. You can also get SPB Pocket Plus to do this, but get the trial first. But WisBar is much more worthwhile than Pocket Plus.
[XPERIA X1 General] maguss:
That's exactly what I don't want to...because of only 1 feature I wouldn't install Wisbar Advance. I was hoping for easier way how to set it up.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] shameer2255:
hi

i had downloaded marysone 6.5 rom. the file is in nbh format how to update the rom

2255
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
There is 2 methods mate:

1. SD Card method

Copy BLACIMG.NBH into the root dir of your Storage Card.

Be sure to have at least 30% of charge.

Turn off your device by using the Power Button.

Go to Boot loader mode. Push and hold Vol. Down + press Power button.

Be sure that Device is connected to PC first before inputting the Storage card

Input Storage card when you see USB displaying on screen.

Now run USPL (If you have aleady run USPL before this or if you have HSPL on device ignore this part).

If all instruction is followed device will start upgrading through Storage Card.

Always ensure that you run USPL before flashing any rom when using USPL method.

2. RUU.exe method

Extract BlackStoneCustomRuu.exe from attached file.

Put BLACIMG.NBH and BlackStoneCustomRuu.exe into same folder on your pc

Be sure to have at least 50% of charge.

Turn off your device by using the Power Button

Go to Boot loader mode. Push and hold Vol. Down + press Power button.

Connect your device to PC

Run BlackStoneCustomRuu.exe and follow the screen instructions.

For noobs to flashing, I'd recommend 2nd method

Hope this helps
[G1 Android Development] xMemphisx:
So i'm trying to modify the Launcher.apk for a personal project i'm working on... so i ran make in my android_source directory, everything went to the 'out' folder ok, and i'm running the emulator. I searched around using google and i came across this page:

http://devtcg.blogspot.com/2009/03/building-running-and-debugging-android.html

and it said that after i edit the sourcecode to an included package (Launcher in this case) i can just run a command like this:

mmm packages/app/Launcher/ and it'll recompile the apk for the emulator. But when i type in 'mmm' i get a command not found. I searched to see if 'mmm' had compiled anywhere and it hadn't. What is 'mmm' and where can i get it? or is it just an outdated command and i need to be using something else. Someone please help.

[Edit]

Got it figured out...
[G1 Android Development] natediddy1120:
I'm having this issue also....i wish the OP wrote HOW he resolved this damn it lol
[G1 Android Development] Macrophage001:
@OP

how did you figure it out?

what is "mmm"?
[G1 Android Development] raidzero:
HOW??? this would be such a great thing to know. I don't like to wait four hours for one apk.

EDIT: got it!

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4812276&postcount=4