yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] zuadao:
waiting for that one too
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] s1rl4ncel0t:
Why faster if "damn small" is lighter?...:confused: Usually it's the other way around: the lighter the rom is, the faster it'll run.

HastaSSSS
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] AndV:
Here is Onkolog's May 19 Lite ROM tested
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nicelad_uk:
So, a Lite rom, very stable, really quick and bug free comes second all in all ? And thats because no SD Tune up has been done which is where the rom didn't perform as well...

This rom also gives best battery performance from all I have tested so its just emphasises why I'm sticking with Onkolog
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daeron.be:
I've added following roms:

Lost in Asia Premium v3.5

Daviduck v6.1 HP

MaryOne 21231 2009.05.17 FULL

Enjoy.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] LoopyLoo:
Erm, thanx for the info... And being so lenient with me!

:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] noris08:
am i missing something or i am to tyred this evening ?:confused:

last test report is not an xls file but some colection of files - what do i have to see them (i unzipped them already)?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Funny, I disable touchFlo but it keeps running like a charm, no freezes nothing all day. :confused:

Disable/enable touchFlo no problem.

Thank you for the compliments. ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
You did download the correct file, right? The one posted here? http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4605844&postcount=572

I just redownloaded the file and extracted the xls-file without problems... :confused:

If you can't figure out what's going on, I can send you the file via e-mail - just send me a PM with your address!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] KukurikU:
here we go again! satscan and leo back in business and back in this thread:eek:

the war is on! somebody dared to criticize Leo's creation and SatScan reacts.

damn! it was so peaceful and quiet here till now. new ROMs, new benchmarks and no other cooker or fanatic fan reacting to the results just an interesting and useful thread...now the fighting is on:confused: i am fed up!

why miry, or dutty, or kwbr or any other cook does not comment on the benchmarks???? why is always leo and satscan?? you came here to brag when the ROM was benchmarked as the fastest (even tho before this you denied the legitimacy of the benchmark) and why can't u take the critics?

Leo, maybe is time to change yr "I'M LEARNING FROM YOU ,YOU ARE LEARNING FROM ME, TOGETHER IS POWER !!!"???
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] noris08:
yep, that's the file, but when i unrar it i get "Daeron's Blackstone Rom Benchmark.xlsx"

what the heck is xlsx file?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
It's an excel file? :confused: :D

It's Office 2007... You need this to open the file in Office 2003: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...70-3ae9-4aee-8f43-c6bb74cd1466&displaylang=en
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
Hmm... Right now you seem to be the one overreacting, don't you think? ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] noris08:
am i an old timer or what? i had no ideea!:confused:

thx!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
ur welcome! :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] SatScan:
I like the WiKi on XDA you 2?

Haha...

Did you miss me...

Cook shoots are not apparent in a circus tent.

The more serious feedback! The better!

Do you not have time / or meaning to your intrested to study the backgrounds of making a Rom keep your mouth delicious or keep the shipped ROM on your device

Yeah i had a nice hollyday ...

Grtz,

PS is that why all the cooks wanna stay on xda... look arond!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daeron.be:
Sorry guys, I don't know what are you talking about. It's not 'rom feedback' thread, it's performance testing one...

For me, this rom was as unstable as other 6.5 leo roms. And I well aware that I can get errors that other people like all L26's betatesters cannot reproduce. There were some irritating post-flashing freezes and I wasn't able to normally use SPB Mobile Shell 3 with it, because of tf3d disabling problems like others noted here. I've been using this rom only for few hours, so I won't say it's a bad rom. If fact, it felt speedy if you don't mess with default settings and there's tweeter bar, which is a nice addon for everyone using tweeter (I'm not). And benchmark results are top for Leo roms :)

SatScan - if you want to participate in such flame-war like discussions please write more clearly. Get some non-metaphorical arguments or write them in a manner so people like me can see them. Maybe you're right, and I don't see your point only because of your a bit poor English...

About spreadsheet format - I'll be a good idea to keep this file in an older office format, for compatibility reasons. Of course I suggest everyone without MS Office 2003 to get latest OpenOffice for free, which can open all that fancy 'x' formats. Or iWork for Mac, but I guess there aren't many "Mac people"... ;]

daeron
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] KukurikU:
dooohhh....sure...i missed yr incoherent blubbering and big brown letters...:p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bajo76:
Can´t open the file 'Daeron's Blackstone Rom Benchmark.xlsx'. I´m using Office 2003 prof.

:confused:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bulldog:
Let me start first to say thank you for this tread. I think it is great idea to give a guidance how each ROM’s performance numbers look alike.

Furthermore it is funny to read few “ladies gossip”

Well let the ladies continue putting their lipsticks and let the Man talk about the real ROM facts.

Therefore I wonder whether it would make sense to include “RAM” and “Battery” consumption in to the Table.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to tell us... :confused:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
Try this file! It's Excel 2003!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
The RAM-specs could be included, but the battery consumption isn't that easy to do: To get reliable data, every ROM would have to be tested for a while. And that would be too time consuming! Sorry!:(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bajo76:
This one works. Danke ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
You're welcome!

Gerne! ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alzarin:
Keep it Delicious

Thanks for the work on the spreadsheet Daeron.

Keep your mouth's delicious all! :cool:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] houms:
news

Miri_WM65_21859_Premium_Manila_2.5_REV9.1

L26HDLEOV2_WWE_WM6.5

RUU_Dutty's_HD_WM6.5_Turbo_5.2.23016.5.0.3_R14

RUU_Dutty's_HD_WM6.5_5.2.23016.5.0.3_Leo_R5

:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
Hold on a second... Just saw houms post...

EDIT: Ok, forget about it! Just wanted to add the results for Dutty's R5 - but houms was faster! ;)

EDIT: Since houms already took care of R5, I did some cleanup work (making sure the ROM-names from the same series are formatted the same way etc).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] morfis:
Why not use google docs for the spreadsheet? Write access allowed can be given explicitly. Formulae, lookup tables etc are all accomodated, not sure what the file size limit is but I have a couple of 3Meg spreadsheets on there and they work fine.

Google account isn't necessary to view (unless you choose to do that for privacy) but IS necessary for write access.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] houms:
you are right

I put it on Google doc:

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AqiuOwZ6uDhpdFVLVFQ3X0hjbEJ0cEk5WVhKcFBhMnc&hl=en

PM me for those who need to edit it.

Daeron, can you please put this link in your first post.

Except if you want to put it in google doc by your self and it's ok for me.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] michoob:
Because if you had read the first post, you'd know that:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daeron.be:
I had a lot of problems with this google service in hosting our results. They might have fixed it already, but I'm not completely sure. If for a week there won't be any significant problems with the spreadsheet, we'll switch back to google docs again. :)

daeron
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] houms:
come back to zip

You are right: tested a new rom PDAVIet and didn't succeded to add it online!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Xannytech:
if you would like to test my ROM you're welcome :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daeron.be:
if you like to test your ROM you're welcome too :D

just remember to send us your result.

;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lococosam:
sam

hi please could u tell me where i can download this rom?

many thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] houms:
news

Miri_WM65_21864_Premium_Manila_2.5_REV10.0

Miri_WM65_23420_TEST_Premium_Manila2.5
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] houms:
news

Xtrom_grid 1_3

hd_wm65__v67__b23420com4__d100209

xtrom_grid_leo_rc1
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] michoob:
Thank you for your work.

Just one question: when could we expect a benchmark of the 'Topix HD Unleashed 3.0.1', please? :D

Thank you in advance.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
Later today! ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Blessed HD:
+1 (the version without weather if possible)

I was gonna ask MAMeingast for that on the TOPIX thread a few seconds ago.. :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
Update: Added results for Topix 3.0.1 (with weather).

Sorry Blessed HD: I didn't see your post beforehand! :( But I'm sure that Manila without weather is not going to make any difference concerning the benchmarks because Manila is turned off during testing anyway! ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Blessed HD:
Ahaaaa

Well MAMeingast, it's enough for me that you take the time & effort to share your benchmarks.. I truely appreciate what you guys are doing ;)

Thanks, & will be flashing a new ROM soon... :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mstechfreak:
Thankyou for the frequent updates.

Can you do a benchmark test for XannyTechROM GRID LEO 1.5 M2.5?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] houms:
news

HD_WM65__V68__B23064COM3__D100909

XTROM_GRIDLEO_1_5

MaryOne_23060_WWE_051009
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] houms:
news

I started to put the information if it's a Manila 2.5 or Manila 2.1 weather.

I think it's a usefull information. If someone want to complete the column for some other rom, don't hesitate.

I'll put it for all my next tests.

New:

MARYONE_V0_02_23064_WWE_091009

XTROM_GRID_LEO1_6
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
That is a good idea! But we should change the title of the column because it doesn*t make much sense anymore... ;)

I've added some more entries in that column...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
can somebody do a benchmark on energyrom photon titanium version without manilla, 7.10. release, im intrigued by the official packages

thanks!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] houms:
3 news

Kwbr_Topix_3.0.2_Sense

XTROM_GRID_LEO1_6

EnergyROM_BLACKSTONE_20091011_StandardM2.5
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Blessed HD:
One last edit because I felt the request was a little silly...

Sorry :o

&

Thanks again guys for all your efforts... :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] houms:
news

Lost_In_Asia_V10.0_21869

Kwbr_Topix_3.1

MARYONE_V1_WWE_21869_141009

MARYONE_V0_04_WWE_23064_141009

Miri_WM65_21869_V29.0_Premium

Miri_23071_Standard_TEST

Miri_23071_Manila21_TEST

Miri_23071_Manila25_TEST

Miri_WM65_21869_V29.0_Standard

Stop, there is two many cooker and not enough bencher ! :-)

For sure, I'm joking, all cookers, please continue oyur good work. and thanks.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] noris08:
Test parameters

hi guys!

first:

i remember that i saw somewhere how each parameter counts for final result, but i am not able to find it right now:confused:

can you point it out?

second:

how often do you use your device to compress or decompress something?

how important is, on day to day use, the speed of copying or writing something? i would say, from this point of view, it is more important the reading speed

i also think that graphical speed it also very important for daily use and for looks of the phone

that is why i asked for "weight" of each parameter

thank you!

cheers!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
WOW! You've been busy like a bee! I can't do any benchmarks atm, because my HD is not working (LCD broken... replacement on it's way)... :( But luckily, you're here! ;)

Ehm... Do you need glasses? Open the Excel file and look for the bright red line labeled "Weights" (fifth from the top)! ;) Or did I misunderstand your question?

I don't think there is much point in arguing about the weights... Everyone will have a different opinion on the subject and there is no perfect way to distribute the weights, since everyone uses their device differently. But: You can change the weights yourself! If you don't like the way it's done, just change them! If you edit a weight value, the overall performance index will adjust itself automatically! :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] noris08:
it's no need to be sarcastic:mad:

maybe i have glasses or maybe i am just tyred or maybe i simply missed it

it was a honest question:(

there is no argument here:)

your answer is just perfect. as you said, each of us have different needs and different use of our devices

thank you!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
ok, lets leave the childish behaviour & handbags in the playground shall we. Remember, this is a community based on sharing, so try and treat each other with respect they deserve!!

@ noris08 - Maybe you prescription for your glasses needs changed, joking :p.........remember...to quote a friend "There are no stupid questions, just offensive answers"

@ MAMeingast - Treat others the way you would like to be treated!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
Hey guys!

Obviously my comment wasn't recieved the way it was intended - in no way did I want to anger or hurt anyones feelings! It was supposed to be a harmless joke - I'm sorry if that misfired! :( Especially since I always try to be as helpful and friendly as possible...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] houms:
3 new measures

Xtrom_gridleo_1_7

hd_wm65_v70_b21869com2_16oct2009

maryone_v0_05_wwe_23071_161009
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] houms:
6 new

Kwbr_Topix_3.1.1

RUU_Dutty's_HD_WM6.5_5.2.23016.5.0.3_Leo_R6

RUU_Dutty's_HD_WM6.5_5.2.23016.5.0.3_R15

XTROM_GRIDLEO_1_8

Sunrise 1.5

HD_WM65_V70S_B21869COM2_17OCT2009
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] melix2002:
Hey guys, could u may be test Miri's ROMs? e.g. Miri v29.0, v10.1 & TEST2?

thx
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] houms:
2 news

Miri_WM65_21869_Premium_Manila_2.5_V10.1_NoHtcMessaging

Sunrise_2.0
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Blessed HD:
Now that's one excellent 6.5 ROM

Can't wait to see the benchmarks :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] varunverma:
Thanks for your ROM

THANKS TO HOUMS AND TEAM FOR WORKING ON SUCH A HELPFUL(FOR US) PROJECT :)

HATS OFF!!

I am Using your WinMo 6.1 ROM (version 3.5) based on the test results.. I m loving it.. though i feel there is a bug or 2, i will retest to ensure it n report back..

Keep up the great work!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] houms:
3 New

XTROM_GRIDLEO_1_8_1

XTROM_GRIDLEO_1_8_1B

Miri_23071_Manila25_TEST2
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Off topic

I appreciate your apology and know from past experience you would not have intended it in this way. I've also seen you support and help others in the past, but others may have no. But you must consider my position as a mod. I cannot be seen to treat people differently, no favourtism to anyone. This is why I responded to your post.

However, I now consider this matter closed

Back on topic now please
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] NeoS:
Hmm.. seeying the big differences in graphics between 6.1 and 6.5 makes me wonder. What is it that makes 6.5's graphics benchmarks so low? I'll throw this in the discussion for the driver devs.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Xannytech:
Thanks a lot!

Would like to thankyou for testing roms and specially my roms, it's really useful to me... 1.9 should be also better.

And according to NEO (thanks for your drivers) it' really strange that WM6.5 roms are slower in graphics... the drivers are the same...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] houms:
5 new

Happy to helping.

5 new:

XTROM_GRIDLEO_1_9

HD_WM65_V72M25_B23075COM3_23OCT2009

Sunrise 2.1

MARYONE_23075_WWE_231009

L26HDLEOV3_WWE_WM6.5
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tubewar:
Great job Houms!

I have tried many roms and believe PhamQuang's V69 is most stable & a bit smooth with WM6.5 + Manila 2.5 even his rom is not the fastest.

However I'd love to know the benchmark of V69. Could you please do?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mitikos:
I'm curious to se the benchmark of MaryOne X0.02☻Build 23502 COM5☻Leo 1.30

So far is the 6.5 with 2.5 manila faster i have ever tried... This COM 5 is very stable and smooth
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
I'll take care of these benchmarks later today! :D

Cooming soon:

PhamQuang's V69

PhamQuang's V74

MaryOne X0.02

MaryOne X0.03
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Rizlo:
True, but as far as I can see 6.5 roms are actually slower in just about everything that concerns drawing stuff on the screen.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
Here they are!

Additionally: Lost in Asia 11.5!

I didn't test MaryOne X0.02 because I didn't find a download link!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] berkut_g:
i'll test MaryOne X0.02 in a couple of minutes. it's kindda slugish :( like all 6.5 :(

had it from this morning ... not too happy as it is too damn slow :(

LE: it is about 0.03 , and is already tested :) sorry ...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
Update:

Topix 3.1.2 (the 6.1 version, not the 6.5 beta)

Dutty's 6.5 Leo R7
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] houms:
5 new

Hoang An Blacktone WM6.5 v0.5

Miri_WM65_21872_Premium_Manila_2.5_V12.0

Kwbr_Rhodium_31_10_2009

EnergyROM_23081_BLACKSTONE_28.Oct.2009_StandardM2.5

BLACKSTONE - PDAVIET ROM WM6.5 (Core 23502)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] houms:
5 news before tonight

RUU_Duttys_HD_WM6.5_Leo_Holy_Grail_R0

Kwbr_Rhodium_02_11_2009

XT_Grid_Leo_2B 2.0

Pyrana V17D

LIA_12.0_21872
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] parnunu:
where i can get Dutty's 6.5 R7 Thriller Manila 2.5?

And Who know how to regis http://duttythroy.net/ plz help i can't find were to registation
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
You don't have to register at duttythroy.net - Dutty moved to htcpedia (http://htcpedia.com/)! ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] parnunu:
Thank ^^

do u know where to get "Dutty's 6.5 R7 Thriller Manila 2.5" ROM?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
As stated in post above you need to go to http://htcpedia.com to get any of Throys roms......obviously if you had gone there and searched you would have found this!!

Both XDA and HTCPedia have search functions....please try and use these...thats what they are for!!!! :rolleyes:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] houms:
5 new as promised

RUU_Duttys_HD_WM6.5_Leo_Holy_Grail_R0

Kwbr_Rhodium_02_11_2009

XT_Grid_Leo_2B 2.0

Pyrana V17D

LIA_12.0_21872

I also add a filter line and clean a little bit the date formats and also the Manila column to make values be consistent.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
Now THAT is great! Makes using the table alot easier... ;)#

EDIT: But something else has changed! Before, the ROMs by Laurentius (v3.5 and v3.55) were always the fastest - now, when sorting by overall index, the TouchXP ROMs are top!?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] parnunu:
i use Dutty's 6.5 Leo R5

in benchmark it be faster than

RUU_Duttys_HD_WM6.5_Leo_Holy_Grail_R0

i want to know about real feel

anybody have try this 2 roms?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cablesguy:
Fastest

EDIT: But something else has changed! Before, the ROMs by Laurentius (v3.5 and v3.55) were always the fastest - now, when sorting by overall index, the TouchXP ROMs are top!?[/QUOTE]

Seems to me by overall index Laurentius v3.5 is still the fastest or am I reading it wrong??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] houms:
You are right

There were a mistake in min max formula and it was not taking into account all results.

Here is the corrected file and now the two L26 rom are again the fastest.

Yes the first one was the same but not the second one.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobsbbq:
Just FYI, My LIA V12 is by Bobsbbq not HelloNasty. Thanks for correcting this in advance.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cablesguy:
Seem to have downloaded the older one..thx
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] houms:
done

done and sorry for the mistake.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] andymet87:
hi, sorry i might be being stupid.... but where is the table with all of the roms listed? thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
Look for the last post by daeron, houms or me with the file attached! So just head one page back and all the way to the bottom!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] andymet87:
cheers, hopefully it will help me choose a rom!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Xeon:
what about Bobsbbq New version 12.5 ? any tester or benchmark ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] maesus:
Directory list of 2000 files (LESS IS BETTER)

Not sure had this been discussed before (didn't seem so by a forum search).

From the benchmark results, there is a HUGE variance between the ROM for Directory list of 2000 files (LESS IS BETTER). The results fall into 2 distinctive ranges - 200~350 and 1300~1400. However, by looking deeper into the data and compare with other results like:

Write 1 MB file (LESS IS BETTER)	Read 1 MB file (LESS IS BETTER)	Copy 1 MB file (LESS IS BETTER)	Write 10KB x 100 files (LESS IS BETTER)	Read 10 KB x 100 files (LESS IS BETTER)	Copy 10 KB x 100 files (LESS IS BETTER)

Their variance are not as distinctive. This makes me speculate this is due to the file system cache size being set in the ROM that cause this. Can anyone confirm this?

The 2nd biggest variance is Graphics test: GAPI Bitblt (LESS IS BETTER), distinctive ranges of 1.2 and 6. However, this is more ROM dependent. For instance for WM6.5 ROM, Dutty, Xannytech, Bobsbbq, Laurentius26 ROMs fall in the 1.2 range category while others like Miri, EnergyROM, MaryOne, PhamQuang ROMs no coincidently fall to the 6 range. I guess this is due to the difference of graphics drivers bundled in.

Now, if we found the actual tweak(s) to apply to the ROM that reduce the variance of these results, then we can use the ROM we prefer, and get faster performance by doing little tweaks or modifications by ourselves. This can also serve a good tip for the chef to make their ROM even faster from out-of-the-box.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] houms:
new tests

EnergyROM_21864_BLACKSTONE_03.Nov.2009_StandardM2.5

Sh3lby_1.2_WWE

Touch_HD_MARYONE_X004_23502_WWE_051109

HD_WM65_V75_B21874COM2

Eclipse_1.0

FancyROMv1

LostInAsia 12.5
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mitikos:
I noticed the same but i had not your brilliant suppositions, good point!

It should be good to try the same ROM with different chace sizes or different video drivers, to see if what U think is right.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] houms:
4 new

RUU_Duttys_HD_WM6.5_Sense_2.1_Holy_Grail_R0

Miri_WM65_21876_V31.0_Premium

Miri_23506_Manila25_TEST

LIA_13.0_21876