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[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] hotlips69:
I spent ages looking around for insuring my TD2 and it was either way too expensive or the t&cs were silly.

In the end, I simply added it as a named item to my house contents insurance with a value of £420 which gives it full protection against loss/accidental damage/theft etc... whether at home or not!

All this cost me was £20 for the entire year, and the excess is minimal.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] colonel:
Brilliant catch Craig.

what a load of horse manure. One really has to read T&Cs these days.

I still think the best insurance is to have it covered on your home insurance. Just check the policy
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] obsydian:
I just got a good deal, but locked into 24mths Orange contract, but i bought it from a third party who include insurance, its about £5 a month !!!

Not sure whether to bother, plan was ot cancel after the 1st free month.

The 3rd party is part of Carphone Warehouse, who are good, but as its part I assume its not the same.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] tinker2000:
citimain or citymain do mine for 5.99 a month. I havent a clue what it covers, I just havent cancelled it yet. Cheers
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Prosasan:
hello guys i have tried searching the forum but i couldn't find anything so i started this thread.

well is there any plugin for the std homescreen with HTC audiomanager there is only wmp and i hate that is it possible maby to associate the wmp plugin with htc audio manager ?

regards Prosasan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] obaz:
can`t understand you
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Prosasan:
okey i'll try to rephrase this;

you know that there is a standard Win media player plug-in for the homescreen in wm 6.5, i hate wmp. i would then like to get i another plug-in for the HTC audio manager. or associate the existing plug-in with htc audiomanager.

hope i rephrased it better this time:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] obaz:
try snaps Advanced config - it has options you need.

View attachment 189854
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Prosasan:
THX

i will thank you very much
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Prosasan:
didn't work what can i do ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] obaz:
didn't work what ? if you about AC f try to update net framework. you nee 3.5 version
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] lukem:
Dear friends, I realized in my Italian Manila 1.3 version, that calendar tab is not there.....

I saw from your posted screens that al of you you have this tab.... is there any chance to have it without flashing new Rom? something like the D-Man cab file for Diamond.......

If i have to replace totally Manila, can you give me your suggestions?

thanks a lot!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] lukem:
anybody so kind?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Smobbo:
There is something called the 15tabs cab.

Search around the forum for it. This also includes the calendar tab.
[Touch Pro CDMA] Weapondrift:
To keep this thread simple ill just ask the question. After months and months of reading and reading about different ROMS and Kitchens, net frames, builds c:/, etc ive come up with a million and one ideas on my ideal rom but not knowing where to begin is making me pull my hair out. How did you start building your VERY first rom, im talking from the ground up. This will give some ideas on where to go from here.
[Touch Pro CDMA] fusingblackrose:
Did you ever figure out how to make a ROM from scratch? I've been designing/drawing my own ideas for a ROM and i'd like to get this thing going as well, if you want, I can send you what I've got and we can like compile this together? Lol
[Touch GSM General] prabuprabu:
Hi Members,

I have problem upgrading to my own Splash Screen which tried this long back with some picture which work and now I have tried to edit my Splash Screen with my own picture which is gone everything mess [only green screen now].....!:mad:

I tried many tools like splashscreen, Artemis SplashScreen etc...

but no result... The Splash screen and the 2 picture is showing green display...

Could somebody help me to do this....I have attached the screenshot here...

My

IPL 3.10.0002

SPL 3.10.cmon

Onyx 4.5
[Touch GSM General] prabuprabu:
nobody there to help me????
[Touch GSM General] jeremy89632:
You might want to Google.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dahoarty:
My Touch Pro 2 has literally just arrived. I have just opened the box and it is beautiful. I am so excited. How sad ! I will post back more feedback later when I've had a play :):o:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mallman:
congratz my friend. Do post some pics if you have them. You should test some tf3d theme installs to see if they work well. :) You're first so you are he guenea pig
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] T3ku:
AAAAAWESOME !!!

have fun with it !! Im looking forward to the feedback... *jealous* ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] hopelessnoob:
can i check with you if there is a fm radio included in the phone
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pepeto2001:
Could you post some pictures with the camera?

Any difference in image quality if you quit the battery cover?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dahoarty:
No FM Radio, but I never used it on the Touch Pro
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dahoarty:
First impressions - Responsive and quick - Just ran Sashimi and I am just synchronizing exchange. Once I've put the serial numbers in for my software and had a play I will try and give a more comprehensive report.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pgamble:
Got mine yesterday AM.

First thing I noticed was that the touchscreen - the outside most element has a minor 'pinch' two thirds of the way up the left hand side as though it was pinched when it was secured. It makes an annoying distortion as it catches the light. It's really small and doesn't affect the display itself but I'm wondering if I should accept it .... it's a long time since I've purchased a device of contract and I'm not inclined to accept anything less than perfect.

The lack of a radio is a disappointment. Clove included the radio in the details when they sent the ready to dispatch email ... so clearly they thought it still had one.

The nice and rumoured but not focused on surprise is the video ... it is 640x480 and seems pretty much as good as the N958GB was. To me ... a credible video capability - i.e. that won't look pixelated on a big TV is very useful ... more so than the stills quality ... so I'm happy there.

Touch Flo is no where near as good as MShell3. There are some stability issues with the carousel on the TP2 ... it bails with a sorry ... but I'm sure that will be fixed in patches.

CPL6 installed straight away - just took my MicroSD from my TyTNII where I have most of the cabs etc for my apps. It worked straight away and the screen is a delight. It also seems much much better in bright sunlight. In fact the default is autosensing screen ... and it really seems to work well but adjusting itself when the sun is out.

Keyboard is nice. Seems like a tight mechanism. It's stiffer to slide than the TyTNII ... I think it may be rubbing a bit which may not be good ... signs of small scratches behind the keyboard on the stick on film they have around the keyboard. The Tilt is really stiff. There is no click on lifting .... but when you close just before it goes flat there is a distinct click ... like a dislocation ... sure it's designed to do that to maintain stiffness ... just an observation.

Put the supplied protector on ... very thin but will do the job until the Writeshield becomes available.

It does default to Opera - not PIE.

What is interesting is that there is very little memory left once running under Touch Flo or MS3. To start with you have perhaps 108m but after a couple of apps are run ... and shut down you end up with 60 or so ... this is really surprising given that my TyTNII was 6.1 with 128M total RAM ... where does it all go ?

Screen felt really sticky to start with. Strangely the TyTN II feels more responsive / smoother with MS3 that the Pro2 does ... wasn't expecting that.

Comes with Illium Newsbreak ... great app ... but why do I keep getting free versions of what I've already licenced .... ?

I like the youtube app ... would have preferred a free Coreplayer though.

Before I do too much more I need to decide where to get a replacement because of that screen pinch.

Paul.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pgamble:
Oh ... rubbish case by the way.

It is tight plain plastic magnetic (like original TyTN) one with no attachment / belt clip ... what a waste of time. Thankfully it fits fine in the old TyTNII case which was far better.

Paul.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] hopelessnoob:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=519849

would one of you mind trying? i m really intrested if TP2 is able to get radio.

Anyway gtraz to those who have received their TP2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] T3ku:
Thanks Paul for the quick update !
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pgamble:
Memory

Interesting.

It's supposed to have 288M RAM and 512M ROM.

Looking at the about it clearly says 188.46MB Memory and under the memory applet - Storage Total - 287.81 MB and Program Total - 188.21.

Have we all been taken for a ride here ?

Paul.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] hopelessnoob:
Nope the 288 Ram and 512 ROM is not including the applications that are running on the phone.

so fo eg. TF3d would take up some Ram and some things HTC included in the phone would take up some rom.

P.S can you try the new radio .cab posted in the other thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=519849 ty
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pgamble:
Device going back because of pinch on outside edge of screen

Hi

As regards memory ... in about ... it should identify the total memory available. This is before anything is used. That total is 188 MB ... not 288MB.

Also in the memory applet, it shows total for storage and RAM i.e. ROM and RAM ... and it shows used / available. The figures I gave where for total.

It's clearly odd, because the TyTNII with nothing running would have circa 80M of it's 128M. On this machine, I get circa 105MG ... which rapidly drops down to 60 odd ... It doesn't have 160M more RAM than the TyTNII had ... They run the same OS.

Because it's going back, I can't run any other s/w on it. Sorry.

Paul.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cocoaju:
So that really sucks if it has only 188MB RAM, that is false avertising mate.

Also, on the other post, a member said the stylus slot doesn't activate the screen when you pull it out. Is that true, New Owners?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Ratakisko:
Read the post again... :) "...the stylus has a distinctive metal feel to it and it does turn the device on..."
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cocoaju:
Yep, I realise it now. Ha ha ha... Sorry people for misreading the post. I need glasses maybe. Ha ha ha...

But the RAM business, can anyone confirm?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ajbopp:
Memory

I've never been able to figure out how memory is calculated on these things. Everything I've ever read about my Sprint Touch (Vogue) says that it should have 256 MB ROM and 128 MB RAM. But the memory applet and Memmaid both say 141.13/104.88. :confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Link278:
Thanks for the review, its helpful cause I have a tytn II, but currently im using a hermes cause for some reason I think it runs smoother, no matter what rom I use, I really hope it has 288 mg of ram cause im sick of the not enouph memory dialog that opens on the hermes pretty often
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] T3ku:
i think there was a similar issue with the diamond when it came out first... just wait...ppl will figure it out... i dont think that htc is trying to fool us here.. (at least i dont hope so)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cocoaju:
Just realised that too.

My HD reads 324MB Storage / 195MB Programs.

I think the OS takes up part of the ROM and RAM. WM takes up 188MB storage and 93MB RAM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Link278:
oh btw, in that review, (just trying to make sure I read right) did you say it had good video playback??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dgh:
Yup finally someone thats correct :) . same on tytn II here. WM takes the memory.

Ow and on the fm radio ...... http://www.htc.com/nl/product/touchpro2/specification.html ( sorry dutch )

AT the bootom you see "special functions ..... FM RADIO and g sensor"

If its on the HTC site it should be in the phone :-)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Roflcopterrr:
Can you go to settings - system - device info - hardware? How much is the RAM size there? My fuze says 288, I'm assuming the TP2 says the same ( i hope! )
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] magius00:
RAM 256MB, Flash size: 512MB, storage size: 288.05MB
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pgamble:
Hi guys

Device has been returned because of pinched surface I mentioned.

Didn't try the hardware applet.

I accept that it may have 288M RAM and 512M ROM ... but would like it better explained.

With the same OS and apps (aside from TouchFlo 3D) as my TyTNII (which ran MS3) ... why is it that the TP2 has 80M RAM free post soft reset (actually it has about 100 ... but that seems to rapidly leak to 80) when the TyTN II has circa 70M free and the latter starts with 128M RAM and the TP2 starts with 288 M. There is something mighty odd going on there.

Even if the TyTNII had no reserved video memory and the TP2 had 64 as has been suggested ... there is still a huge differential that no one seems to be able to explain. I expected to have 120-150M free with MS3 or TF3D loaded.

Anyway ... in answer to the other question ... yes the video and stills seem as good as the Nokia E90 which gave almost High-8 type video playback on a 40" LCD TV. The video is really useful - 640x480 with at least 25fps ... maybe 30.

It always frustrated me that WM devices only support QVGA ... having usable video is more useful that stills even for static events .... very happy with that.

The device looks superb .... very modern .... I won't say the 'ipxxx' thing ... but it doesn't lack presence ... that is for sure. It is slimmer than the TyTNII ... slightly longer (mms) ... but it will fit in your TyTNII case which was quite nice. The TP2 case is crap .... smooth plastic - magnetic enclosure and no clip of any kind.

Sound is better than TyTNII ... the ear piece is louder and the handsfree clearer. It isn't however as good as they made out ... and you do get some resonance with certain frequencies.

Screen is superb ... very bright ... very clear ... and I love the auto adjustment. I went out in bright sunshine and noticed it instantly get really bright. Amazingly it was really clear in sunlight. The TyTNII was awful.

The proximity sensor is a nice touch .... screen switches off when you put it within 5 cm of a surface (your face for example). When you move it away ... it comes on again.

I don't like the notification applet. If you hit the notification area, you get a full screen display with lines for the different notifications you can dismiss. Sadly you can't drill down into them ... eg to show the actual missed calls etc ... that isn't good.

Anyway ... in general ... if it wasn't for the screen problem ... I'd be very very happy. I wanted the radio ... but having VGA video was such a pleasant surprise that the missing radio was almost forgotten about.

Paul.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cocoaju:
Thanks for sharing your experience. Nice one. The RAM thing don't matter that much. I think some cheifs here maybe able to shift that down with a lighter ROM. I just want to try it for myself when it comes out here in Asia. My HD isn't giving me too much of a problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] combat goofwing:
thats it im getting one:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Roflcopterrr:
Did you try disabling TF3D from the today menu, and seeing the free RAM then? Even on my fuze, the VGA port of TF3D2 turned on leaves me with 105-110MB of free RAM - could it be that the WVGA resolution is too much for the phone too handle, along with TF3D2?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Link278:
well I'm glad they finally fixed the screen's sunlight issues, and the video driver issues too
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] galaxys:
pgamble, thanks for the updates! too bad about the screen pinch.

that's really good news about the screen light adjustment out in the sun!

btw, did u run task manager to see what processes are running & memory usage?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bchi49:
Is it for Verizon?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poppinpengawen:
it's coming out for all major US carriers. there are multiple threads about this specific topic.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] LordLugard:
So in all the time you had it (be it 1 second or 1 week) you couldn't even take 1 picture, not even 1?? :mad:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] billu:
We all know what it looks like, hardly going to learn anything new.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ohyeahar:
Is there a way to attach a lanyard to the device? If so, I hope it's better than what HTC did for the Diamond. (It had a hook-like thing under the battery cover, which was crap because your lanyard get's unhooked quite easily). Hope it uses the more traditional method like what was used for the original Touch. (Pics would be useful)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dahoarty:
Wouldn't you know it a quiet week at work turned into chaos yesterday on the day I received my TP2.

Firstly, I have taken a couple of pictures with the camera and although there is no flash the quality 'out of the box' is excellent. I always struggled on my Touch Pro to take a picture that wasn't blurred and it seemed to take 3 attempts to get a decent pic - so this is good news, for me anyway.

The phone has a solid feel to it and the keyboard is quite stiff to push out but it is fantastic to use.

I am running Mobile Shell 3.0 and that works flawlessly.

Now for some really good news - well it was for me anyway - on previous phones I have had it install Jetware to get the device to connect to my Bluetooth car kit and for the car kit to read the address book. No more, it paired with my car and synchronized the phonebook on the first attempt.

One slight negative, up to now, I use PhoneWeaver to control the phone profiles and that will no longer turn Bluetooth or WiFi on or off. I have contacted SBSH support and they are hopefully going to send me a test version that may fix this issue.

One more positive for now is the proximity sensor on the phone. When you make or recive a call as usual the screen goes blank, however when you move the device away from your ear the screen switches back on. I did use Touch In Call Tweak but again like Jetware it is no longer needed.

I got an iPhone for she who must be obeyed a couple of weeks ago and to be honest I have been impressed with it and was actually getting quite jealous but I have to tell you all that the TouchPro 2 has got to be the best, by far, device on the market. I love it.

I will get chance to have a play over the weekend and I will update my 'review'.

If anyone has any specific questions they want answers to post in the forum and I'll try and answer what I can.

Cheers for now !
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dahoarty:
No there isn't - not an issue for me - sorry if it is for you :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] quarintus:
Do you use SPB mobile shell WITH touchflow 3d? I heard that when you shut down TF3D all the menus are back to normal.

Is MS3 that much better than the new TF3D?

Thanks:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dahoarty:
The video playback is first class (I do wear glasses though, lol)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dahoarty:
I sue MS3 on it's own but the enhanced menus still pop up. Cool.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dahoarty:
BTW can someone reccommend a screen capture program so I can post some screenshots ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ohyeahar:
not too big of a thing, i guess. anyway, thanks for confirming!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ohyeahar:
http://www.iliumsoft.com/site/fp/screen_capture.php
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dahoarty:
Thank you.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dahoarty:
Screen Images

I have attached a few screen images. Mainly to demonstrate the menus when using MS3.

If anyone wants to see something specific please post your request.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ninja.rogue:
I have it too. :cool:

Charging battery now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bigjezza:
I'm kinda wondering if the thing will play an 350MB 45 min Xvid .avi file over the WiFi...

I know my Universal and Hermes can't. They do play fine from SD card tho...

Any kind soul wanna try this out for me?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] b16b:
Great Review.. i have also TYTN II and i want to BUY touch pro 2...

what do you think is good choose.. and something more

what about this?

1. the video player still play the video slow?

2. camera take finally good video or still bad?

3. is easy to found GPS signal Like TYTN II or is hard like TOUCH PRO?

here is a video can anyone tell me how much bad or good play this video on TP2?

http://rapidshare.com/files/238483911/750.zip

i use coreplayer 1.3.2 on my TYTN II (Kaiser)

i do a bechmark on this video and i take this score...

avarege Speed: 28.17%

Video franes 1482

Audio samples 1484800

bench time: 3.39.434

bench frame rate: 6.754

bench sample rate: 6766

bench data rate: 247 kbit/s

original time 1.01.812

original frame rate: 23.976

original sample rate: 24000

original data rate: 877 kbit/s

tell me what device is yours

ps. test take place with QTv Display

ps. quality: HIGH

smooth zoom: only for 50%
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dahoarty:
Just a little update.

First negative although only minor - the soft reset button is under the back cover !

I now have the device running MS3 and TF3D at the same time. On TF3D I only have the Home, Internet (for Push Internet), Photo's and Videos and the Stock Tabs enabled.

Switching between the two is instant and now I have the best of both worlds.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pgamble:
For those that have one

As you know ... my went back for the little screen pinch 1/2 inch down the left side from the top as the front surface touches the silver edging.

It appears that others of the same batch have the exact same imperfection.

Can you guys look very carefully at this point and see if yours are the same.

I'm supposed to be having a new batch checked next week and they are clear, I'll get a new one ... if not I've got to decide if it's bad enough on a £500 device for me to get a refund and wait.

Paul.