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[G1 Accessories] huh28:
Phone Dead....

I got a 2300mAH battery from ebay then bought just the mugen black battery cover so that I won't have an awkward looking phone (kinda looks like the phone has a tumor on its back...)

I've been super pleased with the battery life of this new battery because I can't stay awake long enough to make the phone show me that "15% remaining...must recharge" reminder. Typical usage is about 9am to 2am...so like 17 hours usage with everything on, GPS, Wifi, 3G, screen at about 50%, lots of texting, market surfing, browsing, music playing, imeem streaming.....you name it. So super stoked until....

today, I tried to reboot my phone then it wouldn't do anything at all.....totally dead/bricked. screen doesn't turn on, changed different batteries (extended and original), tried it with the power plugged in......nothing

So I don't know if it's the extended battery (maybe not having proper voltage or even voltage....) that killed my phone or just a coinsidence. I've searched around the web and seems like no one has the same problem so I'm guessing it must just be my luck. Good thing tho Tmobile has agreed to replace the phone for me (it's in the mail now)....So i'm afraid to use the extended battery with my phone again when the new one arrives.

anyone has ran into anything similar or am I just unlucky...:confused:
[G1 Accessories] huh28:
@kingbird, so about how many hours can you get out of this 1400mAH battery? Approx.....12 hours with moderate usage?

Thanks for your input!
[G1 Accessories] down8:
How did you compare if you replaced your stock battery so quickly?

-bZj
[G1 Accessories] vr24:
I'm weary of any of these batteries. "The 1400 is much better than stock, like 15 to 20%" - honestly, without actually doing a real test, like running one program and timing how long it kills it, etc... there is no way you would know this. The difference is most likely just a placebo.

As for the 1600mah Fommy battery, all the reviews say it's a scam and just as bad if not worst than the stock battery. Dont' waste your money on it.
[G1 Accessories] Droshi:
This is the main reason that you should be able to approximate the differences in batteries by weight. The only problem would be the differences in amount of plastic used. Ideally you would want to remove the plastic shell, but I'm not sure if that's a good idea incase the polymer isn't wrapped not to mention getting it back together.

The other test you can do is hooking it up to a static load like a network of LEDs and measuring the time they take to discharge. Doing a test like this using the phone as a load isn't so good because the current draw will be highly variable.
[G1 Accessories] Droshi:
Pretty doubtful that the battery was the cause of this failure. Electronics break...and usually when you power them down and try to turn them back on (you can think of it like a light bulb that shorts when you flip on the switch, not usually while it's running or when turning off). Many things can operate at a varying voltage, but it's better for the BATTERY if you turn them off when it gets too low.

Glad you're getting a replacement, but I personally wouldn't worry about using the same battery in the new phone. If it happens again I would be more worried about habit usage than other things, for example excessive dropping, condensation or spills which should lead to failures much more often.
[G1 Accessories] Mr_dev:
I wonder if this was caused by having an extended partition with a fat32 logical drive. Well so long as its working now :D
[G1 Accessories] savethechicken:
I had this problem with two of my memory cards but only after I set it up to run my apps off the SDCARD. Granted they weren't Class 6 I believe they were 2 or 4.

Tried wipes reformats and nothing. I had to re-Flash my phone and then buy a new card and only format to Fat32 and haven't had any trouble since.
[G1 Accessories] ridli:
Why buy a new card? why you didn't use fdisk and mkfs? you can change partitions and format anything from Android.
[G1 Accessories] knight4linux:
Holy crap...when i got to the bottom and saw the pic of the retro 80's phone, I almost peed myself I laughed so hard.

heh....nice.
[G1 Accessories] XL4T3R4LU5X:
Is there a difference between these 2 batteries?

ok, so i have 2 batteries for my G1, there both from new phones in the boxes, but the serial numbers are different. Part numbers are the same.

Battery1: Serial Number-163A189K010965, Part #35H00106-02M

Battery2: Serial Number-1B8A18CL001656, Part # 35H00106-04M

I also have encountered something thats kind of frustrating and i dont know if it has anything to do with these 2 different batteries. When i power off my phone to swap out the batteries, ill put in my new fully charged battery and it wont turn on. I have to leave the phone off without a battery in it for a couple minutes, then itll turn on. Anyone know anything about this?
[G1 Accessories] jimbo2412:
the reason the Serial Numbers are different because they are identification numbers for that individual battery. Thats how they trap them.
[G1 Accessories] Droshi:
Especially when the batteries sneak away, you have to be crafty to trap them and get them back. Be careful! But yeah, jimbo is right the battery will only come back if you have it's serial number...it can't resist that string of numbers and letters.
[G1 Accessories] XL4T3R4LU5X:
...i think im dumber now...
[G1 Accessories] vlator:
my G1 can rw to my sdcard but my pc cant, any ideas???

My G1 can read and write to my sdcard but i cant write to the sdcard on windows.

Formatting the card only worked on a vista machine but i still couldnt write or read from the card(i mounted the card using the fone)

since i cant read to d card i can root my fone cause it impossible to copy any thing to the card:confused:
[G1 Accessories] dixxa:
are you sure you partition is fat32 ??
[G1 Accessories] raven1019:
that is very old school
[G1 Accessories] JackD3ath:
use a card reader, you can get one for 5 bucks.
[G1 Accessories] Henchman:
I had the same problem.

Turns out there's an update for Xp for newer SD cards.

Do a search for it online.

Solved the problem for me.
[G1 Accessories] here.david:
Just received my replacement battery from HTC

Just got my replacement battery from HTC...the only few differences I can see is that the old one has a part number ending in 03M and the new one ends in 04M, new one has 4.25Whr after the 1150mAh, the old one does not and the new has E225867 near the Li-ion logo on top with the old one has E309412.

Invoice does state Sanyo - Dynapack battery at $31.46 with a $7 shipping charge. I was told NO cost so the shipping was a surprise, however, after I send the old battery back I was told NO fees to me...? We shall see...

Also, they sent it to the wrong city and it was re-sent which is why it took so long to get to me.

:D
[G1 Accessories] n8izzle:
wow.. thats seems like alot of hastle lol.. but im glad you got a new battery.. i contacted t-mobile and told them that my battery power was no good and they sent me out an replacement.. free of charge and let me keep the old one too :D.. maybe after a couple of days you can call t-mobile and get a free one as well..
[G1 Accessories] wootroot:
is it bad that i actually tried to determine the logic behind those posts?
[G1 Accessories] daveid:
Clearly the part numbers are not the same.

I have an 02M that came with my phone, just received a replacement for another battery through HTC it is an 04M. It will be tested out today, see if there is any discernible differences.
[G1 Accessories] here.david:
New battery

Tx's...previously (Oct-Nov 08) I did that, however, the replacement was the same 03M without the 4.25Whr. I also just noticed my stock 2nd G1's battery is a 02M (without the 4.25Whr) and it too is less than the "best", does not last long and get "HOT" so we shall see. Just on the 1st full charge and so far the new battery "SEEMS" to run cooler....have not "push" it that will be after the 3rd full charging to condition it before I do.

Maybe you can call HTC....<grin>...and get one of the SANYO batteries if I find these work better......
[G1 Accessories] borodin1:
Please update us all when find out. Thanks!
[G1 Accessories] oreoOozZz:
Your right, i misread the first post and was expecting more. I also was doing it wrong i think, i would wait until the phone died the first time and then i would charge it right away and the most it would last was like 12-14 hours. Now ive been letting it die and then keep trying to power on until it wont anymore then fully charging it with the phone off. The battery now will last 2 full days and nights. This thing is a brick though, i might end up selling this battery and end up getting another regular size battery as a spare and just alternate between them throughout the day. Such a hassle though. All in all, im happy with the battery's peformance for the price i paid.
[G1 Accessories] barty82:
cheap repl. batteries - are they safe?

I plan to buy a standard capacity 1150mA replacement battery for my G1 on ebay. Some of them are rather cheap - I understand these are not original HTC accesories, but what can the possible danger of using a battery like that:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/For-HTC-G1-Go...286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:15|39:1|240:1318

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-BATTERY-F...286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:15|39:1|240:1318

Is the only difference that there is no HTC logo on it? Can it maybe overheat and damage the phone?

Sorry if the I am doubling a thread - did not find a similar one on this forum. Thank you for your answers.
[G1 Accessories] supersoaker253:
using any non oem product especially a battery is kinda scary, those cheaper batteries with the same mAh are cheap cause they're cheaply made and probably non tested. The nature of the phone also puts you at a bigger risk cause heavy usage and just charging the phone makes the phone hot and those cheaper batteries fail most when exposed to heat.
[G1 Accessories] here.david:
Seems to be lasting a little longer, also, I did notice that both (new 04) "FITS" into the case a little tighter then either of the 02 or 03 batteries did....so something is different...if I see any major time improvement I will posts otherwise not...However, it does seem to run a little less hot, which that in and of itself is "way cool" and would allow a longer time due to less heat. I do also think that it turns off the G1 when battery shows 1-2% left whereas both the 02 and 03 batteries did not. I will keep my eye on that and post if anything to say.
[G1 Accessories] Bunnybooze:
Cute girl cases/pouches for G1.

I was just wondering what everyone has on their G1, preferably the other girls.

I bought a little pouch for my phone but it's not G1 specific or anything.

I have some pictures and the website if y'all are interested though. :}

One thing I like about this pouch, besides that it's super cute, is that you can put charms on it~

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj306/dadsstarwarspics/G1-01.jpg

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj306/dadsstarwarspics/G1-02.jpg

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj306/dadsstarwarspics/G1-03.jpg

Website: Aranzi Aronzo

It's called a "Hook Pouch (PVC Coated)".

It's a little shorter than the G1 (length-wise) so if you have a hard case that makes your G1 thicker, it may not fit.

Dimensions for pouch: 3.93 x 2.75 x 0.98 in

vs.

Dimensions for G1: 4.6 x 2.16 x 0.63 in
[G1 Accessories] Gimpeh:
Cows must be flying as I've now spotted the SECOND female on this board!!!1! :P
[G1 Accessories] haitiankid4lyf:
haha i bet there more than two

about four :p
[G1 Accessories] Meltus:
thats a very specific post, i smell advertising... :D
[G1 Accessories] here.david:
I have 3g, wifi, bluetooth, brightness at 50% and screen timeout at 30 secs, everything syncing with 1-2 hours of music/video with 30 SMS, about 20 mins of calls......I am now getting about 8hrs on the new ones from HTC (the 04).:D
[G1 Accessories] ei8htohms:
16GB Class 6, anyone tried them yet?

Newegg is now selling 16GB Class 6 Micro SDHC cards. Has anyone tried them? Is that actually what they're delivering? A little pricey ($55), but very tempting...
[G1 Accessories] Gimpeh:
$55 sounds pretty damn good to me! Thanks for the heads up.
[G1 Accessories] riflepwnage:
SDHC Class 4 Android G1 Problems

Well i have a patriot 8gb SDHC Micro SD Card Class 4 and i have been trying to find a solution to the problem where the phone corrupts data and has reading problems causing the phone to lag.

symptoms

- Phone Lag (Causing programs to freeze and stop responding)

- files that where once working get corrupted

Testing Done

- 1GB Micro SD Works fine with same applications on the phone

- Tried the 8GB SDHC Micro SD Card on a Micro SD Card Reader (Works fine on PC)

- Formatting the memory card and then taking a few pictures with the card (Once i try to view the images the phone starts freezing and the images are corrupted)

- When 8GB Micro SD Ejected the Lag Stops and everything goes back to normal

-Attempted to download a 50MB File onto the Micro SD Cards

1GB = Passed this test no problems

8GB = Gets about 15% of the way and then freezes until micro SD Card is ejected

If anyone has a solution or recommendation to this issue then please post, also please post brands and models that do not suffer from this issue. I have searched several android forums with this issue but there is no solution. It is always the same only "fix" not a real fix is formatting the card "dosen't work"
[G1 Accessories] ei8htohms:
fix: get a new card

Any Micro SD card above 2 GB is going to be SDHC, so the form factor of the two cards you're talking about is the same: they are both Micro SDHC.

If the 8 GB card is working fine and the 1 GB card is not, it sounds to me like the card has failed. The only solution if that is the case is to get a new card. There are no brands that are immune from failures, but common wisdom is to stick with the well known brands if you want to minimize the risk. Paying more money for a card is of course no guarantee that it won't fail, just keep the receipt and exchange it for a new one under warranty if it does so before a year is up.
[G1 Accessories] ei8htohms:
yeah, it almost sounds too good

I paid around $70 for a Class 2 16GB card at a Best Buy a few months ago. At the time, there was nothing faster in the 16 GB capacity available and I splurged for the convenience of picking it up that day (I could've bought it for much cheaper online).

My concern really is whether or not these cards are what they say they are. A lot of vendors were selling Micro SDHC cards with the wrong Class ratings on them not too long ago because the format was so new and no one was all that familiar with the standards or what they were selling.

Since this is the first I've heard of Class 6 16GB cards AND the price doesn't sound unreasonable at all, I was just hoping someone had purchased one already and could confirm that it is what it says it is. You'd think Newegg would be pretty reliable in that category, but who knows?
[G1 Accessories] rshemeld:
http://microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0304662

49.99 at microcenter!
[G1 Accessories] ei8htohms:
are those class 6?

Thanks for the link, but I don't see any indication of what class those cards are.
[G1 Accessories] rshemeld:
class 6 ..i work there so i knida know :-p
[G1 Accessories] ei8htohms:
good to know

Perhaps you should pass the word along to the webmaster or whoever handles the product listings that the Class of a Micro SDHC card is a key selling point; especially to, like, everyone here. :D

Since there is no indication on the cards pictures and they don't come with any retail packaging, would you mind bench marking one of them for us and posting the results? You can get free software to do so here:

http://www.sisoftware.co.uk/

or here:

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1137/ATTO_Disk_Benchmark_v2.34.html

I'm sure you'd sell a bunch of them to the XDA crew if you could establish the read/write speeds.

Thanks for the info!
[G1 Accessories] untermensch:
I have the same problem

I have a Kingston 4GB class 4 model # SDC4/4GB. and I am experiencing

the same issues. formatting with an allocation size of 1024 helps some.

reading from the card seems fine, but writing causes the corruption of files

and the lag you described. works ok on a PC but screws up in both the G1

and a Sansa View mp3 player.

from now on I wont buy class 4 SD cards.
[G1 Accessories] riflepwnage:
this is not a failure with the cards i am afraid, i have already tested transferring large files through a card reader and it works just fine reading and writing with a card reader. But once the card has been placed into the G1 it will start to corrupt the files on it and hang the phone.

attempted a quick format and then tried to use it straight up with a g1 android set to factory settings, after taking 4 pictures and saving them went to my pictures and it attempted to load the thumbnails and then loaded about 1-2 of them and then the phone started to hang. ejected the card and it returned to normal speed.

found those files in my thumbnail folder O_O
[G1 Accessories] AndroidSamurai:
That is not a bad price for a 16GB Class 6...

I was just curious as to the difference in speeds when compared to a Class 2...

I have a 8GB Class 2 and I am getting around 10-16MB/s in both Read/Write. :D

My SDHC is a Sandisk Class 2(or so it says...)
[G1 Accessories] ei8htohms:
the Class denotes the minimum read/write speed in Mb/s

Great read from right here on XDA (slightly out of date, but still a great reference, it's notable that the cards are all name brands, so it would be interesting to compare to some of the newer off-brand or generic cards):

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=341277
[G1 Accessories] blackknightavalon:
I have a Class 4 SD card that I'm running the apps off of. I haven't had any problems with it, though the first thing I did was partition it then format the partitions. :D
[G1 Accessories] riflepwnage:
what brand is yours i ordered a sandisk because tmobile recommended it to me i will see how it goes gonna return the patriot and pay 15% restocking fee from my local computer shop :(
[G1 Accessories] rshemeld:
once i figure out how to use the programs ill post em up :)
[G1 Accessories] daveid:
I think I am going to go ahead and order the A-Data 16GB Class 6 from Newegg right NOW! I wanted to encode my music collection to a higher bitrate, and still have all my albums on my phone at once. This might also convince me to go ahead and put my apps on my sd card, if I could only get over the desire to swap sd cards to watch videos (I have about 40GB of tv episodes I compressed for my phone - wish I could figure out how to get this RTSP server going on my BSD box so I could just stream them).
[G1 Accessories] rshemeld:
ok i dont know how accurate

i dont know b.c i had a few othr things running could affect this..
[G1 Accessories] ei8htohms:
great, thanks!

Thanks so much for posting the benchmarking results. The results don't look to me like the card could qualify for Class 6 (all the read speeds are below 6 Mbps), but it looks like a solid Class 4 anyway. I may pick up one of the SanDisk Ultra (Class 4) cards and if I do, I'll post the results.

Thanks again!
[G1 Accessories] cronin4392:
find out the class of an SD card

i have 2 sd cards, one 1gb card that came with the G1 and another 2gb card. neither of them have the class number on them. how can i find this out?
[G1 Accessories] ei8htohms:
benchmark them from your computer

If you plug them into a card reader, you can benchmark them from your computer to see what the read/write speeds are. This won't tell you what the manufacturer claims for the Class exactly, but will tell you the actual performance. Every Megabyte per second of read or write speed corresponds to one "class".

Check out the thread about 16GB cards in this forum with links to some (free) benchmarking programs if you have a PC. Otherwise some searching should find you some Linux or Mac compatible benchmarking software.
[G1 Accessories] gospeed.racer:
I have been on battery for 10 hours with a few light calls, couple texts, and some internet and I am still at 84% after turning off the wireless networks.

Sure, it sucks when you open a program that needs it, but for the extra battery life I will leave it off! SOOOOO much better:cool:
[G1 Accessories] jkiller122:
Thanks for the warning.
[G1 Accessories] jehlinger:
might be a coincidental problem that popped up with your gps. I've been using a case with a magnet for over a week. No issues with GPS or compass, works well, fast gps fix in all programs.
[G1 Accessories] dagentooboy:
use Locale... I only have my WiFi on at home... it is SOOO nice because anywhere else it saves the batt but at home I have super fast internet and chargers everywhere :D
[G1 Accessories] punkzanyj:
Definitely! I have this set up in locale as well. I have it change my wallpaper, lower the volume on my ringer, and turn of WiFi. I actually don't think anyone would care about my background, I just wanted a visual way of verifying that locale is working. I know it gives you a notice in the notification shade, but I usually clear out the notifications. I don't recall if it gives notice when it goes back to normal.
[G1 Accessories] damnitpud:
Magnetic holster messes up the compass!

Hey i started this post on AndroidCommunity forums also. I bought a holster on-line and loved the look and feel of it. But after reading a post about someone having issues with their compass after using a magnetic holster, i decided to check mine. I also had a problem, I could get the map to look up or down but it would not go left to right. But i figured out by tapping the sides of the chin on the phone the compass will work again! But as soon as i put the phone back into the holster it messes up the compass again.

I also took the holster and put it close to the phone while in compass mode and the map flipped out! So the magnets in this cheap case i bought is strong enough to mess with the compass. I am not sure if this can or will permanently damage the compass, but i will be researching this further...

I wanted to give everyone a heads up.

Anyone know if weak magnets can permanently ruin a compass?
[G1 Accessories] dagentooboy:
I wish it did... it says "home" but never "back to default" :( The wallpaper is a good idea thanks...
[G1 Accessories] damnitpud:
I can also say the magnets in my case has messed up my compass. But by tapping the sides of the chin a couple times will fix it. I am still looking to find any information on weak magnets permanently damaging the compass.

I started a thread about this Here And on AndroidCummonity forums.
[G1 Accessories] gospeed.racer:
after reading the comments, locale is definitely on my "on their next update" list. Awesome idea, just too early it sounds
[G1 Accessories] ibpnyc:
so you guys are getting really good battery life without the wi-fi enabled? what about bluetooth and the 3g...are these on?
[G1 Accessories] Mikey:
Bluetooth can stay on, switch 3g to 2g. I switch to 3g on a very heavy website(s) only.
[G1 Accessories] gospeed.racer:
My results for yesterday were 18 hours on time, 54% left

Still going on that charge
[G1 Accessories] Yos025:
HOW DO YOU GET ALL THAT BATTERY POWER?

I have everything that can possibly be consuming energy off and still cant get more than 12 hours...
[G1 Accessories] gospeed.racer:
gps and wireless off, 3g, bluetooth and everything else is on. I amk not a power user by any means, yesterday for example I was on the internet maybe 45 minutes, talked about an hour, and sent several text messages.
[G1 Accessories] Yos025:
Well, I have no 3g here in Detroit. But I do have bluetooth always on. I talk about 2 to 3 hours on the phone. Little to no browsing since I am always next to a computer. I have to say when I am talking battery doesnt go down as much as when I browse, email and stuff like that...