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[G1 General] XwXDv8XwX:
So can anyone shed some light as to whether the firmware will be able to be loaded on the "Canadian Version"?

As far as I can tell all that is new is this....

"On June 2nd, 2009 it will be released through Rogers Communications in Canada as the HTC Dream. This edition of the HTC Dream includes the UMTS 850 / 1900 bands for use on Rogers' 3G network."

I am unsure if this is new hardware or not and I dunno if it will affect the install of the ROM or not. Please help me out! Thanx!
[G1 General] aggtrfrad:
how can we help u since we don't have either the hardware or the firmware yet. It's only ONE day left so calm down :)
[G1 General] XwXDv8XwX:
no damnit...too excited!!! lol
[G1 General] Nismo300zx:
wtf???!!! i was using one then the page refreshed and its gone and now im stuck with a half done phone...what gives
[G1 General] neoobs:
Everything was merged into the main hero thread.

Thread locked and moved.
[G1 General] utcarbs:
This Ridiculous

There were multiple threads, each taking a different approach , about various issues concerning the HERO rom. I know the mods are doing their job but this is extremely frustrating when a thread is actually helping you. I managed to get HERO rom working with Lawrence's thread and then I tried to push a new VK through another Tutorial thread but guess what ? It was removed and now my VK doesn't work. How am I suppose to ask questions? Where did the thread go?

If you are going to delete a thread, move it, or merge it, it would be extremely helpful if there is a sticky or something letting us know.
[G1 General] afflaq:
they were all saying the exact same thing in 40 dialects, it's repetitive useless information and doesn't really do anything but clutter the forums.
[G1 General] utcarbs:
I dont see one thread with the information i am looking for? where is the consolidation? where are they merged?
[G1 General] GT30RSUBIE:
I totally agree. This deleting of the threads is getting out of hand. I was almost done with the step by step instructions by lawrence when the thread was deleted!!
[G1 General] bakler5:
I guess the short answer to your question is don't venture into uncharted waters, i.e. messing around with a beta ROM that you have no idea how stable it will be, and not really having an understanding of exactly how to troubleshoot on your own. This is a developers forum, not a place to ask a thousand questions, each of which has either been asked or answered already.
[G1 General] utcarbs:
that's my point. its too bad because the only reason i got hero to run was because of Lawrence thread. now where is it?

--Bakler--

I dont want to ask questions; i just follow the developers own tutorials and thats it. but im forced to ask questions when the thread im using is removed.
[G1 General] rahduke:
JustAnotherCrowd - HERO ROM

There was a thread on a rom JustAnotherCrowd was about to release, looked real promising but now its been deleted.... What's up with that?
[G1 General] Kllian:
i swear people really? are you fing serious?

read the instructions, understand what they are doing, then do it. this stuff is beta, its not even suppose to work on the g1. if you want a stable os on your phone then dont fck with it.

creating threads crying about how somethingdidnt work just looks childish.

if you want to ask a question, goto the irc where people are there to help each other. creating thread after thread or posting after posting isnt going to solve your problems...
[G1 General] prash:
As someone who is NOT rushing off to unstable hero builds, I for one do like the cleaning up of those threads. If its hero related, it should be kept in hero thread. There was one hero thread, and 4 'how to fix hero' threads. This clutters up the forum. Everyone is rushing to an unstable build to get to rosie UI and not realizing flashing to hero requires some knowledge and following directions extra carefully.

Either people should STOP making new threads for fixing hero, or people actually read before flashing it to see EVERYTHING that is required to do before loading it.

Thanks mods.
[G1 General] dpgc213:
mods are deleting **** for joke lol
[G1 General] Kllian:
stop creating threads asking where threads went.
[G1 General] utcarbs:
this thread isnt about complaining about malfunctions. its about discretion. where are the threads that actually help ?
[G1 General] law_ren_ce:
My post

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3874647&postcount=405
[G1 General] rahduke:
I wouldn't have made a post but there is some documentation on

http://www.simonwalkerphotos.com/android/android_build_information.asp

and 'm sure JustAnotherCrowd is working hard getting his ROM together and it didn't seem fair that his post was deleted
[G1 General] Six6Sicks:
Neoooooooobs!!!

Lock it up!
[G1 General] Kllian:
this......
[G1 General] Graph.Two:
http://wise-projects.com/

best one yet
[G1 General] SimonNWalker:
Many threads have started to dissapear.

Not sure what's going on.

I'll to find new links for the ROM database.

If anybody has any links for the builds, please let me know.

Twitter accounts or anyway to contact the developer will do.

contact me at: simonnwalker@gmail.com

Thanks
[Touch HD General] Freypal:
Following on from my services.exe constantly erroring, a few more have appeared.

connmgr.exe has crashed a few times now as well as device.exe which locked the phone.

Im getting a bit worried now as this seems to be an excessive amount of crashes...
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
Hard reset device to restore factory settings. If you are still experiencing these errors try flashing a different rom
[G1 Android Development] BrumBrum74:
VK problem and using Apps2SD yes.
[G1 Android Development] ministersin:
Which recently released HERO Rom? H's? Beta4? Squished? All of the above?

Any instructions on using this bat? Drop update.zip in same folder and run bat or what?
[G1 Android Development] question.com:
locale and text still keeps FC after i ran new script. wonder if anyone will be able to make all apps orientation aware?
[G1 Android Development] chief2842:
VK problems also APPS2SD.
[G1 Android Development] jooshy180:
the thing thats being slow is the rosie.apk. whenever i press home.. it takes a min.. i already deleted launcher.apk and installed rosie.apk to the internal memory.. a bit faster.. but still slowwwww
[G1 Android Development] dbhatesyou:
i asked before the threadmerge about the force close on locale and text, if it could be related to the .odex optimization since it worked before we odex'd our files.
[G1 Android Development] jasonpeinko:
VK issues at start, ran the calibration tool and rebooted the phone, VK now works
[G1 Android Development] tehseano:
Working peeps, think I found a solution for your VK problems. Before I do anything else, have you tried rebooting?

New users, I'll get more installation instructions up ASAP. I only have 2 hands and can only type and fix things 1 at a time. Please be patient.
[G1 Android Development] custom374:
After we do the run the script do we need to run it again for every program we load afterwards to keep the speed file odeccs?
[G1 Android Development] afflaq:
anytime that you replace an apk you'll need to recreate the optimized dex for it.
[G1 Android Development] tehseano:
If you want to re-create the odexs after a new app is installed you can, it certainly won't hurt.

Peeps with VK issues, wheres my feedback?!!? Have you tried restarting your phones? If so, is the VK still Force closing on you?
[G1 Android Development] brainz11203:
i keep getting a rosie force close and its so slow what can be the cause?
[G1 Android Development] question.com:
well, i rebooted, and dont have any kind of VK. this was before and after 1.5
[G1 Android Development] bakler5:
oops double post
[G1 Android Development] jooshy180:
can u please write a step by step instructions? for noobs like me?
[G1 Android Development] BrumBrum74:
I have rebooted several times as well. Still no VK
[G1 Android Development] afflaq:
If you're running optimized dex, make sure that you're recreating those after you install the new ime.
[G1 Android Development] bakler5:
I installed http://haykuro.theiphoneproject.org/?p=213 for my keyboard before i ran the script and my vk still works after the script. not sure if that is why it is still working, just a suggestion for some tho.
[G1 Android Development] surj08:
You might want to install any of the widgets you have to the internal memory too :)! which method did you use to install to internal memory?

I rm it from the /system/sd/app_s and then installed it adb Jw
[G1 Android Development] erickrios:
Got it, not questioning your method, I was just curious as to why. Anyway, I followed your instructions but now I'm stuck at the HTC loop. Any ideas?
[G1 Android Development] g1201:
ok how do i do that
[G1 Android Development] CC CEO:
is it ok to follow pentace instructions after u already ran 1.8? and is it suppose to be done in adb or the terminal?
[G1 Android Development] pentace:
Video

Here is a video of mine running with app_s on system drive in my opinion it runs faster you decide though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh2esGNolD8
[G1 Android Development] pentace:
I never said to move data/data

DO NOT move data/data to sd you will have issues with apps being slow and crashing. Especially Gmail
[G1 Android Development] chicojd:
Ok, here's what I did... and yes, this is after I ran the 1.8 script!!! EVERY STEP IS IMPORTANT!!! AND NO TYPOS, OR YOU WILL BOOT LOOP!!!

IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW TO USE ADB AND THE LINUX SHELL, DON'T DO THIS!!! YOU CAN CREATE MAJOR HEADACHES FOR YOURSELF!!!

I ALSO ASSUME THAT YOU ARE RUNNING WITH APP, APP-PRIVATE AND DALVIK-CACHE ALREADY ON SD

Comments not to be typed are in parenthesis or preceded by ;

; CHECK YOUR /SYSTEM/APP - IT SHOULD ONLY BE A SYMLINK.

; IF THERE ARE PROGRAMS IN THERE, DON'T DO THIS!!!

adb remount

adb shell

ls -l /system/app (should just be "app -> /system/sd/app_s")

mkdir /system/sd/data2 (in case you already have a data folder)

cp -a /data/data /system/sd/data2

rm -r /data/data

ln -s /system/sd/data2/data /data/data

reboot (to fully clear the /data/data folder, not necessary, but I do it!)

adb remount

adb shell

busybox df -h (should show you about 89MB free on /data, if it does, then:)

mkdir /data/app_s (because you already have "app")

cp -a /system/sd/app_s /data/app_s (this will take a while... it's 71MB)

rm -r /system/app

ln -s /data/app_s /system/app (I do this without deleting the app_s from the SD for security purposes, just in case it doesn't work... it worked, but I'm keeping them there anyway... why not, I've got 1GB of SD partition that I'll NEVER use up)

; check your symlink

ls -l /system/app (should show "app -> /data/app_s")

reboot

DONE!!!

Those who are familiar with cp and symlinks, please correct any errors that I may have made here... I think this is exactly what I did... all I know is that my performance is improved. Now if we can only get Rosie to stick in memory, we'll be in the pink!!!!
[G1 Android Development] MonkySlap:
its a bad idea to move all of /data/data to /system/sd. you will notice a increase in speed for Rosie when running it on /data but you slow down alot of other apps like gmail and such and you will got alot more force closes when running apps.
[G1 Android Development] pentace:
1 having data/data on your SD card is bad it slows certain apps and causes crashing and horrible lagging on loading list views.. aka gmail and market place

Also if anyone is thinking about moving data/data or any other folder to somewhere else i would not suggest it. granted data/data fits on the system partition but then if u have any new apps that cache u will run out fast.

and i tried moving the other folders to /system like anr and property and such and i noticeds some phone options stop working. like the ability to turn on and use wifi
[G1 Android Development] pentace:
Hah i think its time for a Super re-write everything on your sd and internal memory script lol jk
[G1 Android Development] chicojd:
To point #2... When I followed your initial post, there was BARELY enough room to move app_s to /data... the problem then becomes constant low memory errors and again, Rosie force closes... If this doesn't work for me, I'll undo the whole thing and post how to for that... This was just what I thought up, remembering that I ran /data/data on the old builds as well, back to RC30, with some success...
[G1 Android Development] manup456:
RAM! I wish there was a way to open the phone like my laptop and pop in a 256 instead of that 192 then this all wouldnt be a problem everything would load fast,theses awsome .apk apps i'm sure are pushing the RAM the limits.
[G1 Android Development] sputnik99:
I did this and ran into trouble... I had my old jf 1.51 back

then I did (to undo)

su

mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system

cp /data/app/Rosie.apk /system/sd/app_s/

rm -r /data/app/Rosie.apk

now I only get forcecloses of com.android.phone (stopped unexpectedly)

What have I done wrong? any help?
[G1 Android Development] Rafase282:
It works fine for me. But when going back to home after a while it gets the loading message then I have to wau a few to get back to home. Anyway to avoid this?
[G1 Android Development] pentace:
anyone know what the dev block is for that has 49 megs of free space?
[G1 Android Development] pentace:
Really it depends on your card... a class 4 no way a class 6 is doable but u will get a lot of lag on the lists still as well as moving icons on the desktop youll see some lag with them staying big.. i wasn't happy with that so i keep them on the system drive
[G1 Android Development] ChefCree:
Try using the back button instead of the home button. Also,

I've noticed that a reboot always helps. Try to not use any web based widgets. I installed the reboot app from the market and put it on my home screen because of this. Understand that we are testing the sh1t out of this and it will probably respond more friendly during regular use.
[G1 Android Development] pentace:
I am just taking a shot in the dark here. But i think that the app is set to go into an idol state to save system resources when its not in the foreground for a set period of time. Like the wifi does to save battery life
[G1 Android Development] g1201:
followed this now i have no memory on internel

not this my bad the otha 1
[G1 Android Development] g1201:
follow this now have 0mb in internel
[G1 Android Development] diaztradeinc:
I wonder how this is running on the magic? Does the magic have the same amount of memory? By the way im on a 8gb class 4 and its running smooth for me.
[G1 Android Development] pentace:
did you catch the part on top about how he already moved his other files to the SD card first?

also did you clear your cache and move them as well?

When following steps you need to ensure you read everything and not just a single post because at times they will be split up.

BTW twitter has a cache.. ayy.. boo

/data/data/com.htc.htctwitter/cache.. << moves to sd with all the other cache
[G1 Android Development] Rafase282:
Well I have a class 2 16 GB card and using this room. I wonder how much is the difference between class 2 and 6. If is too big on the phone usage then I may just get a 8 GB class 6 one. the 16 Gb class 6 cost too much.
[G1 Android Development] pentace:
Well I have never seen a real class 6 16gig. I've seen them advertised but when I go to their pages they are class 4 or lower. A class 2 is only guarantee of 2Megs a seconds transfer rate. A class 6 is abreast 6 megs. I have not been able to find a real class 8 either. I think once class 10 are available everything should be able to be functioning fully from the as no issue
[G1 Android Development] meww:
I have applications installed in /system/app, buy I also have apps in /system/app_s/. Why Do i have same applications in 2 places. I wann move all the system apps to /data/apps. How do i do that
[G1 Android Development] Qjizzle:
use advanced task manager

if u use advanced task manager when get to the home screen it will make the phone a bit more snappy
[G1 Android Development] question.com:
am i the only one that has noticed that when the the phone is close the keyboard blinks non stop?
[G1 Android Development] dbhatesyou:
i just noticed this now lol.. i did notice that the home keys would blink sometimes... and here im thinking that means i have a message.
[G1 Android Development] DMaverick50:
loving rosie but i wanted to try this script because there are some annoying lags

i dont have adb drivers installed and the adb for dummies thread is more complicated than the LSAT (it took me all of yesterday just to partition my card and get the rom working, yes, i know...:rolleyes:), is there any way to delete default apps as well as the launcher that is evidently slowing the rom down through the terminal emulator?

any way to boost the performance without adb? much thanks for any suggestions
[G1 Android Development] tehseano:
You sure can.

To remove launcher:

su
rm -r /system/sd/app_s/Launcher.apk

To remove HTC PC Sync:

su
rm -r /system/sd/app_s/PCSCII.apk

Attention everyone!!

O.o, that's big text. ok, 2.0 is out. I have tested this with multiple people, and myself, multiple times. I've updated the installation instructions, and if you follow them 100%!!!!!!!, it should solve all of your issues and problems, and go over smoothly. If you don't follow them, I really cannot help you. But this new install method is confirmed working.
[G1 Android Development] maydaysos:
2 quick questions.

Are yall able to change the background to anything in your gallery. If so how mine says saving but doesnt ever change. I got it to work after trying like a million times. i just would never say setting as background. its working now

Second question is there a way to have Rosie stay in mem so it dont have to load when we are away from the home screen for too long.
[G1 Android Development] DMaverick50:
thanks a lot man, do i need to reboot after entering these?

Also, I was running the lucid script in this tut and it couldnt find my device, leading me to believe it was because i didnt have adb drivers installed, is this correct? thanks again, and i guess i can remove teeter and chirp by substituting their app names above?
[G1 Android Development] DMaverick50:
When i go to my gallery and choose a pic to "set as" wallpaper it works...if thats what youre asking
[G1 Android Development] big nu:
1gb

whats up, i ruined my 8gb sd tryin to reformat and partition, all i have is a 1gb till i replace the 8gb(no cash right now:() will it be a problem if i use this on a 1gb sd w/ a small 250mb partion?
[G1 Android Development] manup456:
Whats in 2.0?

@Big Nu

Ill be home in a sec if your still having problems o.k ;)
[G1 Android Development] DMaverick50:
seems to be a fair amount of problems for those using 1gb and lower than class 6 or at least 4, although some work fine. somewhat hit or miss i wouldnt do it unless youre good enough with this stuff to fix what may screw up

newegg.com has 8gb-C6 for 10-15 bucks
[G1 Android Development] Thaxone:
i used 1.8 with the lucid script and now that i want to completely reflash my phone im stuck on bootloopin..
[G1 Android Development] dbhatesyou:
delete all partitions, recreate a fat32 and a ext2 , and start from scratch flash, push apps on sd .. the whole shebang.. its what i had to do.
[G1 Android Development] AbsoluteDesignz:
chances are u have corrupt data, I just realized after using ubuntu to re-partition my card I can simply fix it with ubuntu...

if you have a live CD load it up then go into terminal type sudo nautilus and you will get a root user file manager...from there after u mount ur SD u will see disk and disk-1 disk is ur ext2 and disk-1 is ur fat32

simply navigate to disk from ur root file manager and then delete the data part in there (or copy it over then delete it incase u wanna back up a few things later)

much easier and more convenient than repartitioning...

after that you can simply re-link data to the ext2 and all is right with the world.

I tested it before.
[G1 Android Development] tehseano:
Not a lot of changes from 1.8 to 2.0, just cleaned up some stuff, added a few precautionary measures. Both 1.8 and 2.0 should work with the new installation instructions, the instructions are what really matters, but it doesnt hurt to update to 2.0, especially if you're having any problems.
[G1 Android Development] AbsoluteDesignz:
question:

If I successfully did 1.8 and all is right with the world, is there a need to do 2.0? does it add further optimizations or is it simply a better way to do the same thing?
[G1 Android Development] AbsoluteDesignz:
I know that internalizing Rosie.apk boosts speed a bit...but considering with this method we are left with a significant amount of internal space (for this hardware I mean, 75 or so MBs isnt much) wouldn't it be wise to internalize the apps that lag?
[G1 Android Development] tehseano:
Nope. That parts the same. But if you come to have to re-do everything, update to 2.0

EDIT: 2, I have a friend working on a new build of Hero that can hopefully keep apps on internal, possibly unionfs support, among more :p
[G1 Android Development] question.com:
no need for me to upgrade. your previous script works fine for me. i used t have apps2sd, but its too laggy at the moment. once your friend releases the update.zip, file, ill think about reflashing
[G1 Android Development] AbsoluteDesignz:
nice.

10chars
[G1 Android Development] mer6:
This is good... very very good. That is all :P
[G1 Android Development] pentace:
should have unionfs support...

i did split the lag apps up from sd to internal then used unionfs to link multiple folders.

but its seriously a pain if u ever have to go manually change things,.

what do u need internal storage for really accept cache. most things are going to your sd car 10 MB is more than enough.. if you want to save some space get rid of the blastid HTC weather widget damn thing is 6 megs lol
[G1 Android Development] tehseano:
Hero is laggy for you without apps2sd? ****, Hero for me feels faster than a normal JF build. granted here and there rosie could be a little faster, but overall the os is fast as heck.
[G1 Android Development] ggolemg:
wow, great stuff!

went from 1.6 of your script, sans camera, keyboard, did the launcher myself, moved rosie myself,

to 2.0, re-ran everything, including keyboard, sans camera

all of it is working like a charm!

non-squished :)

a couple of things i would love to see in this:

Enhanced ramdisk to mount partitions with noatime/nodiratime

"Louder" AudioPara CSV files by Meltus

dalvikvm from ION *edit* davlikvm causes a boot loop, no dice

or ill just do them myself, but i think everyone would benefit from all 3
[G1 Android Development] Rafase282:
I would like that too. Would you tell me how to do it?
[G1 Android Development] Jason Syn:
OK so I'm following the instructions to the letter, I try and push the app_s to the ext2 partition and it pushes up until mms and I get "failed to copy 'app_s/app_s/Mms.apk' to '/system/sd/app_s/app_s/Mms.apk': No spa

ce left on device"

I have 500mb on the ext2 partition with an 8gb SD card.

Any ideas?
[G1 Android Development] Rafase282:
Is there a way to run this using linux? I dont want to reboot my pc to go to windoes vista everytime I want to run this script.
[G1 Android Development] question.com:
i mean, hero was laggy with apps2sd. i only moved my dalvik for now
[G1 Android Development] diz305chico:
whenever I try to adb push app_s /system/sd/app_s

adb either tells me bad substitution or adb not found.. I have an 8 gig class six card and its partitioned correctly..what am I doing wrong
[G1 Android Development] Jason Syn:
Are you doing: "adb remount" first?
[G1 Android Development] diz305chico:
sorry for being such a noob but how do i adb remount
[G1 Android Development] rsfaze:
type adb remount should report back successfull.
[G1 Android Development] pentace:
Yeah the overall Performance of hero is extremely fast.

List views load alot faster than original cupcake build and such the slowness is just the code not being fully optimized. Im sure by the time it is released officially it will be a speed demon