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[G1 Accessories] hbguy:
I have a quick question on which extended battery to get and would appreciate your guys input.

I'm definitely going to get an extended battery because I hate babying my phone and leaving it on 2G. I have a white G1 and since all the back cover at black, it will have to do. However, I'm not sure wether to get the MUGEN extended battery or the Seido Battery. Meltus talks about one for 21 but I'm trying to get a good battery(that won't wreak the phone) along with a nice looking and quality back cover to complement the white g1.

any thoughts guys?

Thank you,

hbguy
[G1 Accessories] KyleK29:
This is the one I bought, comes with the adapter + free shipping for $13.49. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208453

It was $14.99 yesterday (glad I held off ordering, lol).
[G1 Accessories] MeatyCoins:
heres some good but pricey extended batteries with backpeices

http://www.fommy.com/accessories.asp?make=T-Mobile&model=T-Mobile+G1&cat=Batteries
[G1 Accessories] vr24:
I'm just going to continue to wait for the 1600mAh battery to come down in price. It's already down to only $35 - once it hits $20, I'll get one.

I'd rather just have a 2nd battery laying around than that gigantic backplate.
[G1 Accessories] JonFolse:
Great Price and Free SHIPPING!! Just ordered it!! YESSIR. I was on ebay bidding on a couple and there was one (an 8gb class 4) that went to like $17. No thanks :D
[G1 Accessories] mmafighter077:
2300 mah extended battery with alternative cover

I bought this one on ebay for $12 US (including shipping) from the following link:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160310108949&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:AU:1123

It was shipped from China. Now I know you guys are probably thinking its going to explode in my pocket. but its actually the same battery that they sell on Fommy.com for $39.99 (check out the video review tab):

http://www.fommy.com/view-full-page.asp?divid=T-Mobile&cat=Batteries&skuno=82277

This battery has worked great for me. It last me all day with moderate use. For example I went out Saturday night (to watch the Affliction fight of course). My phone was at %100 when I left at 5pm.

10 hours later at 3am when I can back it was at approx 60%. I used it for GPS a few times I used the browser for atleast 30 minutes and I had the bluetooth on the entire time and the backlight was at number 60.

My review

PROS:

-Shape: some people may not like it but I love it. It allows you to lay the g1 on its back w/ out muffling the speaker. The shape also gives you somewhat of a grip on the phone.

-Feel: It feels like the actual g1 cover with the satin finish

-Look: Somehow it doesn't make the phone seem as bulky as the other extened covers.It makes the phone extend to about 1inch. It matches exatcly with the original g1 color. (Can't be seen in the pictures because of my bodyguardz skin.

CONS:

-Shape: There is no skin or protection cover that will fit it. As you can see I had to cut and modify my bodygurdz skin to fit the back cover, it wasn't easy. These are also some bad shots the bodyguardz actually looks a lot better in real life.you will probably have to purchase a new carrying case because that sidekick one will not due anymore but this is for all g1 extended covers. The cover is also slightly higher around the camera button than the original (when I say slightly I mean like a grain of sand). This causes you to have to have to press the camera button a little deeper to get a reaction but it is not visibly noticeable.

-Design: The extended cover does not have glass protection over the camera. So if you get a splash of water. It will probably go inside the phone.

-Battery: For some weird reason when the battery reaches 99% it takes about 30mins from that point to get to 100%. Probably has to do with the calibration.

OVERALL: I definitely would recommend this battery and cover. Especially for the price. It lasts a long too. Double the g1 battery life.
[G1 Accessories] dwang:
I got the same one yesterday and its big. Really big. I thought it wouldn't be so bad once I got it in person, but no, its a brick.

At this point I don't think I could use the extended battery for daily use. I'll probably use the regular battery and just keep a spare in my back pocket and maybe use the extended battery when I really can't plug the phone in.

Glad I only paid $16 for it and not opt for the seidio one. I may go ahead and buy the 1400 mah from seidio though.
[G1 Accessories] mmafighter077:
I dont think its that big. Do you think its just as bad or worse than regular extended cases? When I first bought battery I thought I was just going o use it as a back up but I realized it wasnt that bad and decided to keep it as the regular. Its such a pain in the ass to take the original back cover off. I feel like im going break it everytime I open it.
[G1 Accessories] gottifour:
Other than the part that is extended, is the rest of the battery cover the same as the original or is it a little bit bigger too? Thanks.
[G1 Accessories] mmafighter077:
Its pretty much the samesize as the original. Like there isnt anything sticking out. The area around the camera button is a little higher (not visually noticeable) but youll realize when you try to push the camera button youll find yourself digging a little deeper to push the button. Not an inconvenience for me at all.
[G1 Accessories] gottifour:
thanks for the quick reply. i have been debating between the 2600 with the battery door that is bigger all the way around...and this one. i think im liking this one more so far. i wonder if the 2600 would fit under this battery door? thanks again!
[G1 Accessories] mmafighter077:
I dont know about that 2600 fitting under this one I wondered that too. You know 2300 mah last me most of the day when I use my phone a lot. 2300 is more than enough I would say. I use my for a lot more than the average user.
[G1 Accessories] gottifour:
i hear ya... it should be enough for me too. i was just getting greedy :) thanks for the info!
[G1 Accessories] hbguy:
rats, i just bought a 2400mah battery from a UK seller that will probably take 3 weeks to come. however, i think the back cover on this is horrid. I would suggest getting the battery for cheap and then replacing the back door with the MUGEN one. look for it on ebay, MUGEN extended back door and they have it in all the colors. I think it only runs 15 with shipping. So when adding all the numbers up you only pay a little less than 30 dollars for the same thing seido of mugen charge you. :)

you know that is the best way for longer battery life without so much sacrific in aesthetic so i wanted to share with all you great people :). nonetheless, great find MMAFIGHTER077!

hbguy
[G1 Accessories] dwang:
I think somebody should come out with a 1800 mah battery that is sized in between the 1150 and 2300+ batteries and maybe only add 1mm to the thickness of the case.
[G1 Accessories] blackgin:
Micro sd problem

My micro sdhc give me a problem. I am able to read it, but not to write.

I know normal sd have a lock button, but microsd doesn't have it. How can i make it read/write?

(I tried both using the g1, both using the sd adapter, the result is the same: I cannot write)
[G1 Accessories] Fear_Zoa:
Im not any good with sd cards but perhaps formating it will help...
[G1 Accessories] djind:
Where? Link plzz.. Do they ship to Europe?

edit: you mean fommy.com.. they don't have very good reviews, service AND the battery..
[G1 Accessories] blackgin:
Luckly I solved.

If I connected the micro sd inserted into the g1, I couldn't format, but I put it in the sd adapter, and i formatted trough gparted..
[G1 Accessories] Fushichou:
The specification of SDHC only goes up to 32GB, after that it's a new specification called SDXC (Secure Digital Xtended Capacity, complete with slang on "extended" :p) which will take us from 64GB to 2TB in its spec.

Though it should make little difference, SDHC could hold up to 2TB, but they limited the specification... Meaning SDXC won't be very different, just a new name.
[G1 Accessories] Jess Moore:
Google G1 Cases (no magnetic closes)

Google G1 Dream Cases without Manetic closes at CARRYMOBILE

http://www.carrymobile.com/scripts/main/viewitem-GGGGG1LCBT1BK-GGG1.html

US$28.00 + Worldwide free shipping!

Jess Report!
[G1 Accessories] hartej:
Personally I bought two 1400mah batteries off of eBay (£5 including postage here - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300291138384 - I know it says 1150Mah, but the ones that came say 1400!?) and they fit perfectly in my wallet where you'd keep the coins.

Doesn't affect the shape or size, always with me and takes only a couple of minutes to switch them over :)
[G1 Accessories] incudie:
I've been thinking about this:

http://www.boxwave.com/products/hig...apacity-extended-battery-t-mobile-g1_3283.htm

Only downer is that if I want a "cool hip" case I'll have to make it...

Any thoughts on if Boxware is a decent battery manufacturer?
[G1 Accessories] rickyteddyb:
Case with stylus for the g1?

Now that there is a white board app, i'm looking for a case that can also carry a stylus. Any in the community know of 1?
[G1 Accessories] XtremeKh:
A normal stylus wont work. You need a special one.
[G1 Accessories] Sistum Id:
Dont those ones for the iTouch and iPhone work, ya know, the ones on ebay for like 1.99 or some crap. It looks like a pencil with a black eraser head?
[G1 Accessories] maxdamage2122:
ya those should work since the iphone has a capacitive screen
[G1 Accessories] AustinKnight45:
I ordered this one on Wednesday http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSAA:US:11&Item=120363026784
[G1 Accessories] razor1394:
I have one of those cases but from Boxwave and It's very nice however I prefer the armor case as it covers the phone fully and feels very resistant. My Kaiser has an armor case as well and I've had a lot of moments with shock (debris). The color has started coming off and the Plexiglas got fairly scratched but I used a display polish and it was almost as good as new. fadedmicrobe asked for a full case and that is not a full case as it doesn't cover the screen.
[G1 Accessories] All~G1:
Had to also jump in on that one. I have a 8g Class 4, but I'm doing this for prep of the apps move to the SDcard. Plus my Head-unit supports usb (card reader) and SD (adaptor slot). You can guess where the class for is going to go :)
[G1 Accessories] Mikey:
Dont you guys think the aluminum with mess with the compass?
[G1 Accessories] UnkzDomain:
No. Aluminum is not even magnetic. Magnets are only attracted to Iron, Cobalt and Nickel.
[G1 Accessories] thulinhlun:
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f13/carrying-pouch-for-ur-g1-vote-for-ur-favorite-11873/

I think u shud take a look at these cases

I bought the case number 5 for couple week now, and still happy using it ^^
[G1 Accessories] APrinceAmongMen:
8 GB Class 6 SDHC Card!!!!!! $16 with shipping.

Newegg.com has em.

Beautiful. Can't wait till I get mine. :)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...lickDeals-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA&Item=N82E16820208453
[G1 Accessories] t1n0m3n:
When you get yours be sure to post up a read/write benchmark. I haven't found anything faster than my SanDisk 8G yet, but I'm always looking.
[G1 Accessories] benmyers2941:
I have one on the way as well. How do you test the read/write? do you have a benchmaking tool you use?

If they're both class 6 I'd expect them to have similar performance.
[G1 Accessories] golferguy17:
2 TB???? oh my goodness :eek:
[G1 Accessories] ihpsta:
Nice I just ordered one as well. When 16gb goes down in price then I'll make a switch. The 8gb is way more then enough for my encoded animes, movies, and mp3s. =)
[G1 Accessories] nolageek:
thanks for the heads up, i got one myself.
[G1 Accessories] KyleK29:
I have this card. Newegg had it on sale (same Class 6 8gb) for $13.49 w/free shipping a week or so back. Works great. No slow-downs what so ever.
[G1 Accessories] haitiankid4lyf:
i use hd tach

does anyone know the speeds of the classes?

ie:

class 4 ~ xx kb/s

class 5 ~ xx kb/s

class 6 ~ xx kb/s
[G1 Accessories] coolbho3000:
Class 4 is at least 4 MB/s read and write, Class 6 is at least 6 MB/s read and write. This definition applies to a relatively empty card.
[G1 Accessories] benmyers2941:
here's the scoop from the source

http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/speed_class/
[G1 Accessories] yellow heel:
Just ordered one! Can't beat the price!!
[G1 Accessories] singsing:
seidio 2600mah extended battery cover is too small!!

i bought the extended battery (2600) direct from seidio fedexed to me here in Australia.

and guess what... the back cover didnt fit!!!

i emailed seidio and they basically told me they were all the same size and were not aware of any problems.

it was a MAJOR FUNDAMENTAL issue..

essentially, it was too short on the longitudinal axis and the cutouts on the side for the various volume buttons etc did not fit...

i strongarmed it on and was quite happy until i realised the keyboard part was bowed because of the poor fitment!! i though i killed it... :(

i basically decided to order one of those ebay cheappppp ass batteries and it arrived to day... :) clicked on perfect fit...

LOL... the seidio battery is exactly the same size as the ebay one... so i just used the cover from the cheapy and put the seidio battery in.

VERY SHODDY SEIDIO!!

beware!!

perhaps they just had a bad batch?

the asked me to RMA it etc.. i basically CBFed as i dont want to pay any more fedex fees and whatnot
[G1 Accessories] maruutah:
"SD Card unreadable", cannot find answer on forum

Pretty self explanatory.

Now, I have done a search on here for this error for only the G1, the only result came up in 1 thread that was not relevant at all ("Rooting, Hacking, and Flashing your G1/Dream" sticky)

This did not help me out, however.

The card works fine on both my mac and my pc, whether in a card reader or mounted via the phone/usb cable.

I can edit files, what have you, formatted it to fat32 as well (twice to be sure: once in mac os x with disk utility, and with command prompt in windows.)

Not sure what the deal is, I haven't added any new programs to the phone, or changed any settings. It was mounted fine roughly an hour ago when I went to look at a picture to maybe set as wallpaper (did not set it, however). Set the phone down since I am at work, and went on break, showed "sd card unreadable". Woohoo!

No clue what to do.

Any suggestions=jawesome.

Any questions regarding this, feel free to ask.

AGAIN: works on both mac OS x, and windows vista (windows 7, but basically windows vista, same components.)
[G1 Accessories] missxoash:
I have this problem as well. Never had it until I upgraded to RC33.
[G1 Accessories] im.l0ltn:
I don't know if this would help but i have was having the same problem but then i reformatted with a microsd adapter instead and it worked.
[G1 Accessories] speoples20:
Ordered 2 of them myself, one for me and one for my wife's G1. Really can't beat the price.
[G1 Accessories] danguyf:
Wow, that's crazy. Mine fit fine, so I can see why Seido thinks your problem unlikely. Maybe your's got baked too long and shrunk or something?
[G1 Accessories] maruutah:
Thanks for the tips!

Yeah, I used the micro sd adapter and the g1 usb'd to the lappy.. and still when I format it would not read!

Yeah..worked up until I got rc33 on there..maybe its the type of sd or something...
[G1 Accessories] Meltus:
have you tried a different SD card in the phone? maybe the SD card reader in your phone has broken. take it back to a t-mobile shop and see what they say.

i know this might sound like a stupid question, but have you rebooted your phone? mine was acting up (wouldn't write, but could read the sd card) so i turned it off, and turned it back on and it worked.
[G1 Accessories] haitiankid4lyf:
wow didnt know it was that simple :)

Few More Questions:

anybody by any chance know how fast the onboard memory chip is?

or if there is a command to test this besides adb pulling a random file?

i pulled dalvik-cache folder through adb and got 984kb/s is that about rite?

also is there a defragmenter for ext2 partitions?
[G1 Accessories] question.com:
Ordered mine last night. Can't wait to get it
[G1 Accessories] maruutah:
Not a stupid question ^-^ I have rebooted many times even did a wipe haha.. Still wouldn't read any card I put in there.

But this morning its now working, and I didn't do a thing..damned technology! Hah!
[G1 Accessories] singsing:
quite likely the case.

its just embarassing for seidio to put out crap like that... some cheap ass ebay crap just clicks on fine...

the battery from ebay i wouldnt use... it cost me 15 bucks with the cover. it seems to charge up ok and all that... works... but the battery level stays at 100% for a long time... leading me to believe that the electronics in the battery are probably 2nd rate.... so im not using it just incase it blows my phone up... i really just bought it for the backing

the seidio battery on the other hand works very well...
[G1 Accessories] bestwebs:
Hi,

I bought one of these 2200 battery 3 weeks ago for 19.99 and it works great.

Case looks like it has a hump.

My g1 lasts about 2 days now instead of 14 hours.

http://cgi.ebay.com/T-Mobile-G1-HTC...20336QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262

It takes about 2 weeks to arrive since it comes from China.

:)
[G1 Accessories] shehanjaro:
Thank you. Just bought one!
[G1 Accessories] JonFolse:
^^^^yea same here. I bought a 2200 from ebay for like $17 and conditioned it like 3 times and now it last LEGITIMATELY throughout the day!! I should condition a couple more times and see what happens. Mine also came from China. (Hong Kong)
[G1 Accessories] sonikamd:
The worlds smallest MircoSDHC -> USB adapter. (useful for older non-SDHC laptops)

Yes, most everything can be done through the USB cable+g1 but it's always nice to have.

I picked up the

4g setup here for only $12.99

, what a deal right? lol
[G1 Accessories] Crusher16:
Yeah, just got a 8GB microSD card with the SD Card Adapter, XD card adapter, and the little reader at Frys Electronics for $18. Carry around the reader in my backpack.
[G1 Accessories] cchap07:
Different card

I bought a different card from newegg. It is 8gb class six and i am very impressed. The price was USD $16.25 and it works great. I have attached a program to test the speed of your card when you get it. You can find it Here My readout is as follows:

Warning: Only 7637 of 7638 MByte tested.

Test finished without errors.

You can now delete the test files *.h2w or verify them again.

Writing speed: 8.56 MByte/s

Reading speed: 15.1 MByte/s

H2testw v1.4

So very good card, very good price! Try it. :D
[G1 Accessories] xavier6303:
Thats exactly what I got..but I had to also pick up a 4gb and 8gb cards as well.
[G1 Accessories] coolbho3000:
Don't defragment a memory card! It wears it down due to the enormous amounts of read/write cycles it performs. Remember, that each NAND cell only has 100,000 write cycles before it dies. To "defragment" a memory card safely, just copy all its files out, reformat, and copy all its files back in.
[G1 Accessories] M Power:
2400mAh battery for HTC Dream (HTC G1)

Any thought of this model:

http://picasaweb.google.com/mugenpower8/HTCDreamPhotoTMobileG1GooglePhoneG12400mAh?feat=directlink
[G1 Accessories] 2dorr:
I already have that case on my G1 and it's perfect.
[G1 Accessories] dwang:
I ordered one too, how is the fit? Does the silicone get loose over time or does it stay on tight?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSAA:US:11&Item=120363026784

I currently have one of those hard cases, but because the battery life on the g1 is not so great, I need to change the battery once in a while, and its really difficult to remove the hardcase. I'm hoping the silicone case is easier to remove.
[G1 Accessories] vahustla4lyfe:
Best full Phone cases

I have a problem with dropping my cell phones, and is trying find the best case, or combination of case & protection to use. Any and all input is greatly appreciated.
[G1 Accessories] jcostantino:
$65 from Mugenpower seems a bit excessive but it looks like one of the better designed cases. I think I'm going to pick up one of the Ebay specials... I'm really disappointed in the battery life on my phone but I'm not thrilled about adding a bunch of thickness to it.

Maybe all the dead space inside the case could house an LED for making pictures less awful at night...
[G1 Accessories] dissonance:
Nice. Wonder if that would fit my seido 2600mAh.
[G1 Accessories] dagentooboy:
well... just so you guys know... the charge it up and run it down process has nothing to do with the battery but it has everything to do with the battery monitor. There is a chip inside the G1 that monitors and charges the battery. Without that chip you would never get your % of battery life. The advantage of running it all the way down is to make sure the chip knows where the 0mAHr line is and charging it all the way up tells the chip where the max capacity is.

Just some more info on why.... :D
[G1 Accessories] ghackett:
This is probably a stupid question, but what about using the phone while it's doing the initial full charge? Will that affect the chip's ability to measure the battery life? My phone is out for delivery by UPS as we speak, and while I want to give it the full charge treatment from the get go, I also don't think I have the self-control required to not play with it while it's charging.
[G1 Accessories] dagentooboy:
as long as it is plugged in it shouldn't be using the battery at all... so I would say plug it in right away and don't unplug it for at least 8 hrs (I would leave it plugged in overnight if you ever go to sleep). and then just don't plug it in till the battery is DEAD (as in you can't turn it on or anything)... you might lose some data but I bet you will get better life out of it... and then in an ideal world you would charge it fully again and then you should be good to go. Also if your battery starts showing signs of not lasting as long just run it all the way down and charge it all the way up. I am not sure how to run it all the way down... on my laptop I went into BIOS setup and left it there till the computer just died.
[G1 Accessories] ibpnyc:
just a comment which may negate what you guys have done. I was told by htc via email to not charge the battery when I first get the device. That I should totally drain the entire battery until fully dead and dead charge it to 100%. The reason explained to me is that the battery and device will "sync" the proper readings and the battery will be more "trained" as to what it fullest capacity is. Perhaps this is wrong but this is what I was sent via email.
[G1 Accessories] dagentooboy:
oh ok... I thought it was already dead... so yeah... run it down and then charge it... the "sync" is the chip that I was talking about... it needs to know where the 'empty' mark is and where the 'full' mark is...
[G1 Accessories] punkzanyj:
that would explain why it only took an hour and a half to get the green light. Still left it charging last night. Until 2:30 when I woke up geeked out and couldn't wait anymore.
[G1 Accessories] punkzanyj:
Battery Revival?

So, I'm currently on my second charge of my G1. I'm one of those geeks who wants to fully charge, and then fully drain the phone the first few times just to be safe.

So, I didn't charge my G1 last night, and this morning on my way to work it warned me that I had only 15% battery left. So, I decided to turn the phone off, I figured I'd run it down at work (turn up the brightness, turn on GPS, play some music, etc)

Well, I just finally got situated at work, turned the phone on and the battery is back up to 47%. In the time it took me to start this thread and type this far, it's down to 34% already. Seems odd to me.
[G1 Accessories] Yos025:
Internet Browsing Eats the battery. I drained it all the way twice yesterday. it only last me about 4 hours both times. I talk for about 2 hours straight and batterry was excellent but when I hanged up and started browsing, battery was dropping 20% in about 15 to 20 minutes. it is crazy, and I am using edge here in Detroit... by the way edge works pretty fast with this browser... Better and faster than with my wing