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[Windows Mobile Software Development] dickenz:
@ace10134 and @utak3r:

Between the two of you, you both have near 3,000 posts. Yet you just derailed a topic. And over it's sticky status too that neither of you have control over. PM a mod or something, don't fill this thread with your whining. You'd think after being around here for so long - as you just reiterated about the old days of cmonex, bepe etc - that you'd understand XDA forum etiquette a little better.

Who's it harming by being a sticky? Why does it get your knickers in a knot as to what is stickied here and what isn't? Does it stop you sleeping at night? If not I really don't think the comments were needed. If it does, I'd go see a therapist.

Regardless of whether it deserves a sticky by logic; It has one for now so until it's removed by someone with the appropriate power let's just focus on the topic at hand thanks.

@publicbkh and @bob_the_amazing:

Great to hear you guys have made progress. I can't wait for some form of release. Any update will be awesome, have at it guys :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] salilshukla:
Not long ago, someone claimed that the Slide button is the MOST DEFINING feature of this app which will set it apart from the other mere wannabes. :rolleyes: Well an app that can be so groundbreaking as a slide button, does deserve to have its own you-know-what. :p

Jokes apart, its good to see that some developers are doing their bit. I hope they are only a little distance away from coming up with something which can be tested, analysed, thrashed and developed into a really ground-breaking app. Best of luck to those who know what they are doing. The others may restrict themselves to suggesting a suitable name for the app which eventually the developers should ratify. :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] cooleydan5:
anyy news on developement/updates?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] publicbkh:
Question for skinners: what do you need?

I am pondering how to implement skinning. It's not a top priority, I know, but it would be fun to have others (the UI creators) working alongside me. I'll continue to update this post.

1. Should UI creators use html and javascript -- WPF? -- (and handle events) or just provide static bitmaps?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] style1:
simple folder with png files would be simplest...kinda like S2U2
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dickenz:
Nah I think most graphics editors including myself would prefer to just have static bitmaps we can skin.

Maybe XML? But I think javascript might be too much for the average graphic guru.

If you want to get in touch with me regarding the UI or need any graphics just PM me here.

Cheers.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] cooleydan5:
any updates?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] xauzainhatvn:
Some SMS Program not Support PARAMETER SMS

Ex : Tmail.exe ... to ....

When you send an SMS for 1 contact from Mscontact, the Tmail EXE is add this Phone Number of Contact to TO FIELD and you type message.

But when i want made VITO SMS CHAT default my SMS PROG, it can't use Tmail parameter .... And i use CONTACT, Select contact, add phone number .... :(

Any body can fix this ?

Thanks !
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Baadshah555:
Hey.. Please, can anyone Help me.. I'm unable to Intall this Slide2SMS in my HTC 3400i..

How can I install it.. Does my HTC supports this Software or not.?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ace10134:
Well this isn't a completed app yet, it's a technical preview.

If you're expecting to send TXT messages heavily with this app, then you're gonna have to wait for it to be finished.

If you want to help with beta testing, then you're in the right place! Someone should be able to help you. But remember, beta testing means that things won't work perfectly, and if you're not into that, then just wait on the side lines ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Blowfish64:
That would not be sufficiently customizable though. My vote is for xml.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] md_bluelily:
What's your programming language ? C# ? Then why are you talking about JavaScript ? Are you going to build it in HTML ?

I can help in coding in C# if you need any help in this area.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] publicbkh:
UI

The basic idea is that I (and others) would write customized *faceless* controls (a contacts listbox, an sms conversation-thread listbox, an sms new-message composite control) that are used by the true "application developers" -- the people interested in user experience (including the UI skinners) -- to stitch together and *envisualize* the actual SMS application. XML(XAML?) and Javascript, in addition to the controls, could provide the framework for creating layout and behavior.

This approach should permit the app. devs maximum flexibility in designing the User Interface but can accomodate those who just want to provide static bitmaps (a default configuration can specify target filepaths for them). It also can support consistency across apps through reuse of controls and, potentially, a common framework among controls for UI design.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] md_bluelily:
Anyway,

I'm able to help in sending and receiving the text messages using C#, if you guys like.

But please notice that having a single standard framework (eg. Microsoft .Net) is essential for such an application. If you like to send and receive text messages using C#, then it is better to forget using HTML, JavaScript and ... .

Best Regards.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] stylez:
Without getting the response of hold your horses or the likes...

Could we as XDA users please have an status update as last beta June now Sept would be good if we had an idea of where the project is @ and where it is heading.

Thankyou for takeing time to read :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] macoolit:
I hope this project will continue... i really like smooth apps like this one.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] kidoucorp:
Don't know if some of you are aware of theses controls for WM C# programing : http://fluid.codeplex.com/

Could be useful for a such app :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Shidell:
I'm a little boggled that work on this project hasn't begun yet. I'm a C#/C developer and simply can't believe someone hasn't taken up the project.

This is by no means a small project, but all of the tools are available to make it fly. Has no one even begun on this yet?

If not, I may start dabbling myself..
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dickenz:
@Shidell:

There are a couple of guys still working on this. If you read back a few pages I think publicbkh and bob_the_amazing were working on this in their spare time.

That said you're more than welcome to have a go yourself :)

Cheers.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Blowfish64:
You all don't think anything is actually going to come of this do you? I mean it started in May and there's been basically nothing of worth to come out of it. I still don't get why it's stickied.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Shidell:
I've briefly looked into this, and while an interesting project, it's unfortunately much beyond my singular scope of capability.

I'd be more than willing to assist publicbkh and bob_the_amazing, but they'd have to bring me up to speed and inform me where I could help out. (To either of you, feel free to msg. me regarding this if you'd like.)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] wrocha:
Hi guys,

I was searching something at codeplex and found this great project: http://silvermoon.codeplex.com , while it's still on beta, it promises a lot.

for testing i made a simple app similar to the goal of S2S based on the file explorer demo that comes with silvermoon just for a proof of concept. Attached to this post is a cab just to know if you guys like the concept and believe that worth the effort of making it an usable aplication.

P.S. i just tested it on my xperia x1
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ace10134:
Jesus, I want that!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
When trying to start app, I get an error message: Cannot find PInvoke-DLL MAPIlib.dll...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] htcfreak:
Bro not able to download "http://www.mediafire.com/error.php?errno=320"..!!!

Please give the links again..!!!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] k1sr:
I get nothing... Just the wait icon, and nothing... then there's a little more wait icon... and then nothing...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ace10134:
Maybe that's why it's a beta.

That interface idea looks freakin awesome! I hope that interface replacement continues development, and eventually replaces WinMo.

Who knows, the developer of that interface might even include a SMS app in there, well, they have to. That will be promising!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] raizaM:
+1

.......
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
Guys, please provide some screenshots :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ace10134:
There were a few some pages back.

But anyways, it's not near being finished.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mb286:
"more functional" alpha

Hi all,

i am currently experimenting with my own version of this idea. In the first place because i wanted to learn how this could be done. It is created more with the idea of how can you make it work rather than how does it look good. (which really shows). it currently has the following:

Finger friendly scrolling lists (which really makes it feel a lot like iContact!)

Display SMS inbox with contact name and picture

Display details of SMS

Display Contacts with Contact name and picture

Create SMS message and send it. (you can send an sms message by selecting a Contact from the Contacts list)

It is currently slow and does not look very good. it is after all still an alpha release.

I have contacted user Ricky to be part of the googlecode group, so it is currently not my intention to try and create this on my own and i am perfectly happy and willing to help the users that are already involved.

having said that, I am interesting it what you guys think, so if there is any interest i will put up a link for this here.

best wishes
[Windows Mobile Software Development] tcchuin:
i can be the tester..^^

hope you'll develope it..
[Windows Mobile Software Development] cooleydan5:
YES!!! finally some progress. please post beta and screenshots! i am very willing to test!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] raizaM:
Guys, I really wanna try this prog but the download link just gives me an error.

Please recheck and/or if possible place a mirror.

Thanks...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dickenz:
PLEASE do post a link mb286 - It is great that someone has made some progress. I'd love to test and I am sure there are loads of others that'd be extremely keen to do the same after the thread being inactive for so long.

Don't worry about the UI at this stage. It's fairly unimportant. We need the foundation first. Congrats to you and thank you for your hard work.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mb286:
Slide2Send alpha semi functional

Hi all,

ok so here is my slightly functional alpha version of the concept that is discussed here. it includes the following:

Finger friendly scrolling lists

Display SMS inbox with contact name and picture

Display details of SMS

Display Contacts with Contact name and picture

Create SMS message and send it. (you can send an sms message by selecting a Contact from the Contacts list)

It is slow and doesn't look very good, but it should display in both QVGA and VGA. also, when you have send an sms it will currently not show up in the send items list

please note, for best user experience while scrolling or selecting rows please use the area on the name or phone number.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] namwollem:
Nice one!

Thanks! I'll give it a whirl and let you know how it goes (on my Touch HD)!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] namwollem:
issues so far....

Whilst I do appreciate that this IS still an Alpha release, I just thought I'd mention a couple of issues I have found so far...

Please don't take this as criticism because it is in no way meant as such - purely so you know where a potential problem lies.

When selecting an item (on my WVGA screen), the item BELOW what I have selected is brought up... for example, if I choose to send ALAN an SMS, ALEX is chosen as the recipient as he is the next on the list below Alan in my contact list. The same is true when selecting a message to view.

Also the font size means parts of letters are not visible - but I understand that this may be a WVGA issue.....

But, never the less, great work so far, please keep up the great work!! Awesome project!!

:-)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] cooleydan5:
im waiting fo QWVGA i cant wait for this to become a full working sms application. this is great progress! keep up the good work!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mb286:
thank you for your comments, you are correct in this. if you click on the area that is the name it should select the correct row, this is indeed a mistake and will be corrected.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] namwollem:
another small thing I've noticed!

Another issue I have found is that on my Touch HD (Blackstone), when I select the Contacts 'screen', only one page is available - in my case A, and 2 Bs! The scrollbar won't allow me to move down the page any further, nor does any kind of swipe or slide gesture bring any more contacts into view.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mb286:
Try clicking and holding the area that contains a name and then try to scroll. This also has to do with the way the program is currently incorrectly recording clicks and movement.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mb286:
Slide2Send alpha semi functional version 0.2

ok, so here is a improved version of my alpha release (version 0.2)

this version should have better responsive lists when scrolling and selecting rows
[Windows Mobile Software Development] namwollem:
Ahhh!

Yep - that solved that issue - although the movement is very tricky to control accurately - but I do understand your program IS still being worked on!!

Thanks for your reply, and apologies for my slow reply as I've been away for a few days!!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] namwollem:
cool!

I'll download this new version and have a play!!!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ManUtd07:
This may be a dumb question, but do I just copy over the .exe file and run that or how do I install this alpha version?? I have been very interested in this project from the get go and it is nice to see some progress again.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mb286:
extract the entire folder and put the folder with its content on your device's internal memory or storage card. that should do it.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ManUtd07:
Thanks for the response and again for your hard work!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] cooleydan5:
any word on beta release for all resolutions? or at least wqvga? i cant wait for a final releaSE .
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mb286:
have you tried the current 0.2 version ? it should also work with WQVGA and WVGA
[Windows Mobile Software Development] TheDude1120:
guessing people gave up on this???
[Windows Mobile Software Development] oknaka1:
Looks good! +1 for this gd thread.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] masrterk:
~For Sms Vito sms chat is the best choice :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
I don't agree with you at all :) I actually prefer WM poutlook over SMS-chat.

SMS-chat is a heavy and big app, which is really slow. And the UI is not easy or finger-friendly. You have to push two buttons just to send a message! Yes, I know it's to prevent sending on mistake. But that is just why I want the 'Send'-button on the top of the screen! And SMS chat has a loooong delay before it starts sending. This delay made me send one sms three times! Hehe...

In my opinion, SMS-chat doesn't integrate good enough, and the design is - if I'm gonna be kind - cheap looking....

The worst about it: $15!!!

So, I think you're wrong, and that's why we need something better ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] l3v5y:
What I'm thinking of doing utilises most of the code of iContact, and just changes the functions of the lists (IE, the data that gets added to the lists) and the details screen for each section.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
Man, if you make this work, I might propose to you :p I'm really looking forward to seeing results of your work!! That Topaz just might get a little closer!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] tcchuin:
the "send" shouldnt at top of screen..quite tiring if we send alot of message
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
Well, I believe that it won't be a problem. You push the X button in the top right to close all the time, right? I'm not tired of that yet;) The reason for putting it on top, is to avoid accidentally pressing the "Send" button while typing. And I don't like the confirmation-thing in Vito SMS-chat...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] gfandrea:
Vito sms chat looks very ugly on my touch HD, and i think on a vga device to,

i use it on mt htc touch, but now is dont worth the money.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
I know, that's why I want a new app to be created! And preferably free, at least for a while :) I think it's much better to donate $20 than to pay $10 ;)

Sign up for donations, people! So far the pot is $40. If it gets bigger, maybe l3v5y will speed up the development? ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
So, what do you guys think of my last concept UI??? It's kinda similar to the TF3D2 UI, but isn't that what we want it to look like - but with a few improvements? :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] alexirsi:
There should also be a small preview of the message. ;)

And of course: date and time.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
Ah, of course, forgot about date and time on the last one! Thnx, will fix it tomorrow;)

About the preview - of course there will be one! I want the first part of the message to show in the list instead of just "Message" showing, just like in poutlook (standard WM sms app)! But I didn't bother to enter a separate text there just for the mockup, I hope you can forgive me.. Wait for the alpha for this, where there will be actual text messages (hopefully!!);)

And with more donations, I believe the alpha will arrive sooner......... Hehe!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] computerjunkie:
This is almost like VitoSMS...i've been using that for months...seems very stable and light.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] longice:
Well, as I mentioned in the first post, I've already tried it. And I think that it's not good enough. I don't see it as a lightweight app as it's pretty slow, and I think that many things could have been made in an easier way. E.g. for sending a message, you need to press twice on different buttons. And still there's a quite long delay before it starts sending. Me no like :)

And, I don't like the look of it. Or the price:)

So, that's why I'm challenging the developers of the great XDA to create a new app!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Sean D.:
Wow

Okay, yeah... this is getting my vote. And will likely get my donation (assuming it's made for QVGA screens).

You will get even more $$$ from me if you can:

1). Make this accesible by clicking on the native HTC Home Text button (yeah, I'd rather stick with HTC Home!)

2) It would be even better if you can make a matching "myEmail". Threaded messaging, and all that good stuff. :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] michd43:
I like the new HTC design the most. I'm a big fan of white and black. Hopefully the project will get started.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] oknaka1:
You're quite a joke yeah. You only need to click once to send a msg! LOL.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] magicalan:
the only thing i dont like its the blue XD the rest its ok =D great work of art :P
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dickenz:
I'm gonna put my hand up here and say I'd love an SMS app also.

I'll happily assist with any graphics. Skinnable and NICE!!! whilst maintaining the threaded view would be the #1 goals in my opinion.

I'm jumping on the bandwagon and thinking we need something awesome so here is my concept UI design (trying to think outa the box! VGA res too):

Inbox:

Left softkey changes depending on whether a text message is selected or not. If a msg is selected, softkey = Reply. If no msg is selected, softkey = New SMS.

Conversation Screen:

Slide to send stops accidental sending of texts. The text message status is self explanatory and has a small indicator; Sent, Received, Unread.

New SMS:

You'd use the Contacts Softkey to select your recipient.

Please note these are just rough graphics and can be improved upon massively...

@Longice: I'll also add $10 USD to the pledge of this app.

I'd imagine I am with most others in this boat but I'd eventually love it to cover emails also.

EDIT: Maybe even a row of buttons somewhere on there would be handy especially in the inbox view. Actually on 2nd thoughts...

Inbox Concept #2:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dickenz:
I still wouldn't pay $15.00 for that POS.

It may work but it looks like it's from Windows 3.1 era.

I'd much prefer a skinnable, free, community driven app that covers all the bases. We can't make changes or upgrades to SMS-Chat. You're living with VITO's constraints. You'd be free of all this with an app developed by someone here.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ace10134:
I guess there's some still working on it, but Manila 2.5 is basically killing this "app" :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mb286:
As a programmer i'm still interested in how this can be realised, so i'm still working on it ...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] cooleydan5:
im still really interested plz keep developing!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dickenz:
Definitely not. Look at when mb286 posted version 0.2. It's still happening.

A lot of people do not run Manila. Let alone 2.5, which still doesn't have a working VGA port. So it's still a great replacement for WM texting.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] moesfeld:
Some are even not (really) able to run manilla 2.5
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mb286:
Slide2Send alpha update

Hi all,

i have been a bit busy with other things the last couple of days , but will resume work on this in the next days.

alpha 0.3 will have the following:

Folder View (Swipe from right to left in inbox view)

New SMS (Swipe from left to right in inbox view)

Slide2Send (in new message view)

Slide2Reply (in detail message view)

It should display in both QVGA,WQVGA and VGA,WQVGA.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] tcchuin:
can any1 here send email to request developer of chompsms(andriod platform sms app_ )to develope a similar app for us? of course,theyy can sell it
[Windows Mobile Software Development] -Arturo-:
Great news Mb286. Eagerly waiting for the new version:)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] chrisque1:
New HTC messaging is working great. Miris rom for blackstone, save all this trouble for me. Maybe u can get some ideas from it.

I hope this proyect dont die.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ASK768:
you mentioned wqvga twice, did you mean one of them to be wvga?

thanks for your efforts
[Windows Mobile Software Development] xauzainhatvn:
Not run on my XDA EXEC ?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mb286:
Slide2Send alpha semi functional version 0.3

Hi all,

alpha 0.3:

Folder View (Swipe from right to left in inbox view), The idea here is that the folders can also be accessed, no real icons and not really working yet.

New SMS (Swipe from left to right in inbox view), Currently only SMS is supported, and the "unknown contact" option does not allow for sending an sms yet (suggestions on how the program should handle "unknown contacts' ,eg phone numbers that are not in the contact list, are welcome)

Slide2Send (in new message view)

Slide2Reply (in detail message view)

some default (color) skinning in the settings.xml

It should display in both QVGA,WQVGA and VGA,WQVGA.

still not very good looking, but please be patient :)