yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] vranikx:
hi,

by which application, plugin etc is skinned your taskbar?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Jed D`Lagged:
Hey, thanks for making this rom. Tried it out and decided to stick with it after testing out a few other 6.5 roms.

Few questions though: Any way I can turn off the way the taskbar is handled? I want to be able to press each icon individually. I've installed other taskbar icons... so they don't work with this new taskbar magnification/notifier. Is the only way out to go to the HTC one?

Also, how do I stop it from vibrating whenever it makes a network/data connection? I turned it off in the phone options but the issue persists.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] player911:
The new taskbar is just the new WM6.5's taskbar. The more MS changes the OS, the more 3rd party programs tend to break. You can't install older taskbar icons because the of the new format. Several people have begun making new/updated versions but I haven't seen many. I have experimented with the HTC Notification Manager but it is very quirky and hard to access with the short taskbar. As WM6.5 continue to develops, more and more of HTC apps will break.

If you want to replace the taskbar icons, wait until the newer taskbar becomes more common.

As far as the Phonepad dialer bug, I may have found a solution. It appears the Tachi dialer doesn't experience this bug. I've tested it slightly while experimenting with Manila 2.1. Using the latest Tachi dialer may be the way to go. I haven't used it enough to say whether it is without it's own bugs or not, but I could bring up the phonepad to check my voicemail.

I'm testing a build tonight, if all goes well I will throw it up tomorrow. The only difference is it primarily has the Tachi dialer. Will post back tomorrow.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] villa_bryan:
I really love this ROM. I can't seem to find voice recorder anywhere however. I am not sure if you left this out on purpose or not.

Thanks a bunch.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] GustavTheLion:
i am getting random vibrations as if i received a text- and it happens often :\

anyone else experiencing this, or have a fix?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] player911:
You are probably getting vibrations from the data connecting/disconnecting, as posted earlier. Data vibrations I believe are 1 pulse, where SMS/MMS is 2.

I didn't program that in the ROM build itself unless something is turning it on. I don't notice it because I actually turn that on in one of my personal UC settings I install at first boot off of my SD card. I was able to turn it off in my settings >> Sounds & Notifications >> Notification panel. I believe it is under "Connection Established" and "Connection Disconnected".

The only recorder app I remember using was "Notes" which allowed voice memos and scribbles. For some reason it won't launch on my test build so perhaps they are messing with it again, I know it just got a overhaul a few builds ago.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Baronic:
i have no problems with the dialer except no video call. but there is another bug, the camera at All phots aisnt working
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Jed D`Lagged:
Sorry, I'm not familiar with this dialer. How is the speed? I prefer using the WM Dialer because the HTC one... is... so... slow...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] fubsle:
Wifi Switch in Comm Manager does not work in latest rom!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Jed D`Lagged:
Actually, I found the cause of the data connection vibration. In Sounds and Notifications, for Connection Established and Disconnected (or something like that) it has Vibrate ticked. Uncheck, reboot, no more vibrate.

Uh... you're saying your camera isn't working? Upgrade your Radio, that might fix the problem.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Baronic:
the camera is working fine when i launch the camera application. but launching camera from All Photos, doesnt work. link file probably broken
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Jed D`Lagged:
There's also something else that's driving me nuts. The list items are massive. Sure, you can increase and decrease the font, but that doesn't reduce the size of the list items themselves. Check boxes are also largely elongated.

How can I reduce this size by about half?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] player911:
LoL, get used to that. The checkboxes are new in the last release or two. Microsoft's end goal is to make their OS more finger friendly, as you can see. The checkboxes and stuff will be tweaked a long the way so they don't elongate when there is a lot of text.

WiFi is working fine on my phone. I just tested it and connected to my work's WiFi. Are you on a AT&T Fuze or else? I don't think the WiFi is different though.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] nourarch:
For my HTC HD

can I use this rom for my HTC HD ? if not which wm 6.5 is computable with HTC HD ?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Baronic:
@nourach, u're in the Touch Pro forum section, go to the Touch HD section

@player911, so the camera thing, u've noted it right? also, the Pictures tab in Titanium in your rom only previews whats on my main memory. how do i change it to both main memory and storage, and i'm hoping to redirect to the Album app (i know there isnt one, i wanna install it) instead of Photos and Videos app?

i like your rom, but there's just a few stuff missing.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] jglev:
Actually, I can connect to my WiFi too, but that is about it. Nothing seems to be accessible via the internet and I get an error anytime I try to use is. I am not sure what the problem is. Maybe I need to try an updated build (I am using the 9/9/09 build).
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] player911:
Yea I've noted the Camera thing. I can duplicate it. I think the pictures tab is programmed to read from the My Documents folder. I personally install a reg hack to turn my sd card into my My Documents folder (so there is only 1 folder to manage) and it works great.

Lots of people can't wrap their heads around combining My Documents and the Storage Card folder, but it serves multiple purposes and has no ill side effects. I don't include this hack in my roms because people tend to freak out.

Here is my reg edit XML format I use for my UC that contain the above tweak:

<wap-provisioningdoc>
<characteristic type="Registry">

<!-- SDCard Hack -->
<characteristic type="HKLM\System\StorageManager\Profiles\SDMemory">
<parm name="Folder" datatype="string" value="My Documents"/>
<parm name="Name" datatype="string" value="My Documents"/>
</characteristic>

</characteristic>
</wap-provisioningdoc>

If you apply this reg edit, at first you will have "My Documents" and "My Documents2". Just backup and delete "My Documents" then reinsert the memory card so it can refresh.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Baronic:
thanks lol. but i hope u'll include that in your future releases :D or maybe a cab for the less initiated peeps. (i dun wanna memorise the regs and do it everytime i flash your rom, a cab i can just run from my card)

in the current dialer btw there's some options for video call, but i dont see a way to actually make a video call? :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Baronic:
am waiting for your latest release so i can flash lol. btw if u are gonna put in taichi (u said a few posts back?) , be careful that there isnt a scrollbar in the dialer? also would hope for a HTC dialer version for those who need video call :)

just my two cents suggestion lol.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] JoeUsername:
Yeah this whole dialer/phone not working at all makes this ROM non-usable for me.

Anyone try out the New new new version and verify if the PHONE functions work? (Slide to answer/ignore, ANY of the hardware buttons, dialpad, etc). These are key features to have working on a

phone

for me. Currently cannot answer any incoming calls. Cannot dial out unless it's in the number is in my contacts.

The little quirks (vibrating, squishing sounds, butt ugly theme, and other stuff) is able to be worked around or put up with. But the inability to answer incoming phone calls or make outgoing phone calls (without having the number in your contacts already), makes this worthless as a phone.

Trying to use this ROM since it appears to be the most recent 6.5 build without the crap that is in the other roms. Trying it since Da_G hasn't been making his bone stock ROMs.

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And just to reclarify. if the dialer worked, I would really like this ROM. If anyone has any tips on what they did to get the dialer working, please feel free to inform us. And if the ROM creator could put these tips in the first posts, that may save a ton of headaches for people trying to use it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bangbang023:
I've had the same problem since he stopped making the roms. I'm using Natf's stuff now, but he hasn't been around lately, so I'm starting to look around. While this rom caught my eye, it still seems too far from stock to be usable for me.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] player911:
I never had any problems with the dialer itself for making phone calls. The Keypad button/menu bug is a problem but doesn't prohibit dialing. So you are saying that you are UNABLE to answer, dial a number, or call out? AND your hardware buttons aren't working? That seems extreme. Has everyone experienced this because I use these roms for daily use and usually always dial my numbers to call.

To my knowledge the only bugs with the Raph dialer is that the shortcut in Titanium's Missed Call slider's "View" button doesn't open Call History... and while on a call pressing the keypad button launches a menu instead of the keypad.

My rom today uses the Tachi dialer which does fix all of that. It actually works very well and displays the Call history from within the dialer that is customizable to display only the type of calls you want (ie Missed, All, etc). Oh and the keypad works too. I haven't released because I got busy. I'll upload it if need be since I won't be available tomorrow to work on anything.

Here is a Tachi build: http://miiwiichat.com/chat/rom.zip

It's what I'm using now and should give you better results.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Jed D`Lagged:
I use my phone primarily in landscape, and these 'effing massive list boxes make doing some things practically impossible in landscape.

Is this a DLL that needs to be hacked? Is it a reg key? I looked for a reg key for a while but I couldn't find anything.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] player911:
I dunno. That is MS making everything "finger friendly". You shoulda seen them when they first came out. I still think they're a little too big but we'll see if MS reduces them a little. I can say that they probably won't go away from future builds unless someone finds the controller. Eventually a program like Advanced Config will support the sizing of all these new elements.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] djdafreund:
I was wondering if this works on Touch Pro (CDMA)?? I was send this link from a semi-friend. I normally use NRG3.0, but some things don't work, and i would rather go with the newest included 6.5 build (with major speedup's and new bottom start menu and buttons.) and install TF3D2.1 R1.5 CAB's (yoz's) additionally. Sorry to not be so up to date with this thread, i just read this for the first time today, and thought this would be an acceptable question to ask . Thanks a lot in advance for any response's. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] player911:
I will be uploading a FULL version, that includes TF3D2.1 R1.5 and Tachi Dialer, tomorrow.

I'm sitting here playing with it and I am in aw. Really sharp. When I go in to work tomorrow I'll upload it and snag some screenshots to post. I've worked out all the bugs mentioned thus far and updated a few packages along the way. I cleaned up the first post which I think will help. See you guys tomorrow.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] JoeUsername:
I won't have time to load the update till monday, going away for the weekend. But here's the symptoms:

When receiving calls, sliding the touch screen slide to answer appears to do nothing. Pressing the hardware button without touching anything else first, seems to work. If I try the slider first, it won't work. if I press the answer call screen button, it doesn't work.

Making calls the dialer works fine.

DURING calls:

Cannot bring up the keypad at all, so therefore checking voicemail or using other keypad button functions (call tree menu, etc) cannot be done.

These may all be moot since I haven't tried a different dialer, or tested the new build. Anyway, it's late and i need sleep.

Stephen aka "JoeUserName"
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] player911:
Very odd. The dialer slider always worked for me. The keypad issue is known and is just a WM6.5 issue regarding the softkeys, which is why I swapped to the Tachi Dialer which has onscreen buttons for the keypad. I hope it will be more reliable for you in the future.

Currently I have posted a Full version which has been running very well and includes a Tachi dialer. I may make a "LITE" release which includes everything except Manila. Even the FULL version I posted today is still lite on the apps, as I try to keep it as lite as possible.

Thanks for your feedback Stephen.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kwill:
Dang player, right on time with this one. I just crapped out my phone (wont boot all the way up) uninstalling ezinput, so I'm going to give this one a whirl today (and hopefully a couple weeks) to see how it holds up. It looks great and has already been hit with the few necessities, without being overloaded. Will report back what I find and thanks for making the manila/tachi version. Also, were you able to get a hold of the newest 2.1 package (with weather in the home screen) before Atom's thread was closed?

**edit** hey player, just unzipped the file and the rom image isnt there.

Actually, used a diff unzip app (alzip) and now the image is there, but once extracted it says the file is corrupt. I'm flashing it now anyways to see what happens:)

Got to 98 % and then stopped.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] player911:
I don't know what is up with Mediafire corrupting my files. I extracted it fine on my end, rezipped it up, and currently reuploading. Hopefully we get a good one this time. Mediafire is a nice free file archiver but useless if my files are corrupted. Let me know how it turns out. I'll post the link here and on the front page.

[Update]

23052 was released today, which fixes a few of the graphical bugs regarding the elongated checkboxes and such. Nothing major. I can't see someone flashing a new rom just of a few checkboxes. 23049 Full is uploaded: http://www.mediafire.com/?mggnbwzdwni
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kwill:
No biggie...just eager for the rom and to get my phone back working:D

Update- Thanks for reuploading. Flashed fine and checking it out now. Maybe get that 23052 build if it's worth it.

First impressions are it's stable for sure. Decently fast, a few tweaks will improve that and the apps list isn't too bad. Most essential stuff, but would like to see youtube as the phone comes with it:) and the lockscreen positioned in the middle like stock. Lastly, could we get the widgets back as I believe they're apart of 6.5 also. No bugs found yet either and thanks for your hard work on the rom playa. And heres the .bmp to get rid of the gps icon on the tachi dialer.

Actually, just noticed the battery meter isn't decreasing when I loose battery, it just stays stuck at full. As well, when you are in contacts and you hit the "New" button and choose one of the options(Messaging group, Email group), nothing happens. Lastly, when I hit the call history button on the dialer, it doesnt go the call history and if you hit contacts below the talk button, it doesnt go to contacts, but brings up an option menu.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ANDROiD KiLLSWiTCH:
looks nice

looks nice, will be flashing your flavor for the first time. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] JamesR913:
when you said tomorrow @ 1223 AM did you mean the 18th or the 19th? I wnat to get the latest build I can.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ANDROiD KiLLSWiTCH:
A day with ROM

I have been using this ROM for a day and this is what I have found.

The Bad:

1. Battery icon does not go down. I had gotten to 5% and the icon always showed full.

2. I can not get rid of the suggestive words when typing a text. This is with soft or hard keyboard. I went into settings and toggled options, but nothing worked. Also in options there is no highlight to let you know what is on or off.

3. Can run sluggish at times for no apparent reason.

The Good:

1. This ROM looks nice, and I am excited to use the newer builds of 6.5.

2. No freeze ups, acts very stable.

Suggestions:

1. Don't know if you meant to omit the program tab in touch flo, but if you don't like it, NATF has made the top start button open up TF3D start/app window, and the bottom one is the 6.5 chrome one. Its a nice touch.

2. Keep doing what your doing!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] player911:
RE: Bugs

Thanks for your support.

The menu's are messed up in the Tachi Dialers and "some" other non-WM6.5 compliant apps because MS redesigned the softkey stuff and so the softkey menu items in those non-WM6.5 apps either don't work or bring up various other menus.

I know the HTC dialers have their problems but until HTC updates their apps or xda figures out a way to hack it to work, the only other option is to simply use the stock WM dialer. It's faster and works perfect with the loss of a slide-2-answer and graphical eye candy. I know Tael and other chefs choose to exclude HTC dialers until it is sorted out but I feel that with the quirky softkey stuff, it does function pretty well.

I could always exclude the dialer for the WM stock one. Would everyone prefer a fully functioning stock dialer now? or stick to HTC with its few bugs until MS updates their dialer (which I think will be soon).

Also, kwill, thanks for the statusicon.bmp. I noticed that the other day too. Small annoyance with an easy fix. I'll be sure to include that in the next release. My roms fully support the WM6.5 widgets and actually include a few. The only ones I don't include is the MSN Money and Weather apps. I do this simply because I haven't figured out how to actually install the apps into the "Apps" Folder in the start menu.

The battery info is probably being over written by the tachi dialer. It should be a simple registry edit to fix it. I haven't actually noticed it but I bet it would be annoying. I have been looking into a battery meter that displays the actual percentage which I have always liked. Perhaps I will include that which will solve the issue.

The Manila start menu is a simply reg edit. I disabled by default but I can easily reenable it for future releases

So questions:

- Tachi dialer or MS Dialer

- Stock battery icon or Percentage Icon

- Enable Manila Start Menu or Not

- To be or not to be
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] gguy1:
Tachi Dailer

if it is possible,Please use the older phone dailer... I really don't see improvements in Tachi Dailer it causes my phone to have it's in call volume to be too loud and it makes it so i have to change the dailer to one that is usually incompatible.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] player911:
You mean the original AT&T Raph Dialer. Thats what I used to use. That dialer, I think, seemed the most compatible but it had 1 major problem with later 6.5.1 builds; that is the softkey for the Keypad, while on a call, wouldn't work. So you couldn't use the keypad for voicemail functions or automated answering services.

The Tachi dialer fixes this by having a keypad button IN the program, and works decent. But now you can't add any new contacts. So this whole game of give and take. It all boils down to ancient HTC apps that weren't designed with 6.5.1 in mind (how could they). So nothing works properly and there are some serious bugs. Basically just have to figure out which issues you can live with and settle for now. Eventually Microsoft will update the stock dialer and we'll use that. The old microsoft dialer functions but lacks many features.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kwill:
Man, I must've just missed the widgets, sorry. As for dialer, I say Tachi, as I've flashed two other builds of the 23047 and higher and they both had the Tachi dialer and it worked perfect. As well, the menus under the dialer went to contacts and such. Not sure what packages they used, but its a much better dialer than the WM one. That and the "New" button in messaging are the only things missing from making it daily use (with being slightly annoying). By the way, you think you could share the graphic on the send button in messaging?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ANDROiD KiLLSWiTCH:
VOTE

Tachi.

Percentage.

Manila Start.

Not to be.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] marmota:
Nice ROM. Only one small problem...touch pro cab keyboard?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] player911:
I'll look into a cab that converts the hardware keyboard back for the Touch Pro. Initially it was set for a Touch Pro but I swapped it for a AT&T Fuze Layout. The change is a simple registry fix that I can cab up for you. I just have to find the time to get it setup.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] isaacolu@hotmail.com:
Hi 911

really quick rom the only thing is I know its for the fuse but my touch keyboard hit problems with some of the keys I installed a cab to rectify it but i still cant get the £,sym keys to work. also had issues with not GPS detaction at all waited for arounsd about an hour .

cheers though really clean rom excellent work

take care and thanks inadvance
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] player911:
I found that Google Maps has a hard time finding a lock in the later releases. I thought it was software too, but I've tried many other builds from other chefs and they're all the same.

While many other programs get locks no problem, to get Google Maps to jump start: Go to the tools folder and use the GPS Tool in there to download the latest aGPS info. I usually download it twice cause the first time gives you 6.5 days... while a second sync will give you 7 days until it expires. It might sound dumb but it seems to work better.

The GPSWeatherRadar app finds my GPS signal in seconds without the aGPS info. The Weather Tab in Manila gets your location quick too. Just google maps for some reason. Also I've found that if you go into the GPS Options from within google maps and manually set it to COM5 and 56700bps, it tends to work better. Perhaps Auto just sets the baud rate too low (4800bps?).

Tael, another Raphael chef cooking some of the later builds, has a TouchPro and he said even his packages of EzInput are lacking several keyboard commands like FN, shift, and ?

We do our best to tie down these crazy later releases but we don't work for HTC, so getting their apps to play nice with newer WM builds is a real chore. I think in my next build, I might include the Tachi Dialer and EzInput keyboard as a cab install so that it is uninstallable if undesired.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kwill:
Hey player, think you might be willing to try and release a rom based on 23412? It has some really nice, new touches in the contacts app and some other areas. With the way you have this one looking it would go perfect. By the way, any eta on next release? Thanks much in advance.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] player911:
23412 is based off a newer COM4 branch but I haven't tried it yet. There are several differences between the two, but I do like the updated contact app.

Me and Tael are working on getting some of the HTC apps to work alittle better. Those seem to be some of the bigger ball busters right now. Although I am pretty busy recently, I have been keeping up on the latest releases. The later release, 23053, just has some updated graphics for the dropdown taskbar, which I over ride with the HTC Notification Manager anyway. It is much more buggier as a whole so the trade off isn't worth it.

23412 looks good but I'm waiting on something more worth while.