yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[P3600 Software Upgrading] rakzztar:
my trinity wm 6.5 can't install any .cab

and can remove apps. installed.

when i go to "remove program" i cant see any apps. that i installed.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Eisbehr:
Hello XDA-Users,

today i want to present you the first open Version of my Windows Mobile application "Mobadi". Its also my first post here. :)

This is a little application to discharge and monitor your internal battery.

Actual it will support only different HTC Devices and the Sony Ericsson X1i (Xperia), but Versions for non-HTC Devices are comming up soon. The downloadable Version will already run on VGA and non-VGA Devices.

In some test, Mobadi have increased the used mAh up to 370%! So the Bettery will discharge faster.

On older devices like the Trinity, the Bettery-Percentage are 5% or 10%-Steps. So the Diagram are not so detailed like on the Touch-Versions.

Please be so kind to post your ideas, criticism and comments about Mobadi. But remember, BETA!! :)

And if you want, please tell me witch device you own that run Mobadi.

<-- a "Mobadi" !

actual version: 1.0.09.0519 (beta)

Download:

main: http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=186708&stc=1&d=1242742324

mirror: http://www.eisbehr.de/mobadi/Mobadi_1_9_519_AllDevices.CAB

Caution:

At the Update from 1.9.518 to 1.9.519 you must uninstall the older Version first.

Because of an wrong Name in the old Version, it will not update automatically. For the next Updates you dont have to do this.

Please

If you want to post this Application on other Websites and Forums, place a Link to this Post. Here you will get allways actual Versions and Informations.

[B]ToDo:[/B]
- export to csv / md (own filetype)
- windows desktop application for detailed information
- viewmode "latest" and options
- fix diagramm error after long time under "viewmode all"
- disable background-worker while discharge
- using camera/light for discharge
- display current values under diagram

tested Devices:

- HTC Touch Pro

- HTC Touch HD

- HTC Touch Diamond

- HTC Touch Cruise

- HTC Trinity

- HTC p3300 Artemis

- Sony Ericsson X1(i) (Xperia)

Screenshot:

Diagram-Colors:

Blue: Ampere

Red: Percentage

Green: Temperatur

Violet: Voltage

You like it?!

EUR

USD

Warning:

When you use Mobadi, you use it at your own risk.

The developer will take no fault.

Eisbehr
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] ntron1:
Interesting. Can you tell us how the discharge works? What is the current draw in discharge mode?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Eisbehr:
Hey,

finally it will use different ways to discharge the battery.

The actual implemented:

- Backlight, will be permanently on. The Level can be set in the Options.

- BackgroundWorker, stress the CPU with Math-Operations. (slow down the device while in Discharge-Mode)

Comming up:

- CameraLED (TouchPro)

- Camera Access (still testing, ;) )

- Backlight behind Softkeys (maybe)

All features will actualy be tested.

More detailed Information will have some time. At the moment i use some Devices in a "Laboratory Enviroment" to get some usefull results.

Eisbehr
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] mr.jaguar:
I;m not any kind of guru or anything, but why would you want to do that to a lithium battery? you **aren't** supposed to do that to lithium batteries. do a little bit of searching using google please.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] jsn:
Well...

To store a LiIon battery, you should discharge it to

about 40% and keep it room temp.

That could be feature, to discharge it untill a certain level .

(but never 0%, although I guess the manufacturer already built

in such protection or safety margin)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] jsn:
to complement my last post:

I do test the power drain of my devices.

That way I can calculate what kind of car adapter I need to not let

it discharge while using hsdpa and wifi simultaneous

(to share internet to the car-pc :D)

But most of the times I measure by observation..

Some ROMs perform better than others. This tool could provide insight.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Eisbehr:
Hello all,

yes mr.jaguar, you are right. I think you mean that a LiIon-Battery have no memory-effect. But here are some of my Ideas:

- At first, LiIon-Batterys will have no memory-effect. But older Devices may have NiHM-Batterys.

- Its nice to see, witch Application will stress the Battery or to see the drain while call somebody or browsing the internet, with wlan enablend/disableb, and many more ...

- Also, its not only for Discharge. You can use it for monitoring in normal use, and also, can monitoring the Battey-Charging.

- I use it, to drain the last 2-10% befor i will charge my Device. Not needed for LiIon, i know ... but ... in german, we call it a "tick". :)

to LiIon:

- The LiIon lifetime is round 500 load and discharge cycles. Also the time of use will reduce the lifetime. To see how fast your battery will lost his capacity or to compare with other Battery/Devices you can use this tool.

- LiIon Batterys will have "fixed" Voltages. To check this, you can use it too.

As you see, there are different ways to use it, may be there are many more ways. Try it at your own... :)

Greets,

Eisbehr
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Eisbehr:
@mr. mr.jaguar:

Today i have do some test with my HTC Trinity. In normal/idle mode the device use 40 till 70 mAh. In discharge-mode with only one BackgroundWorker it will use 145 till 151 mAh. So, it will increase between 200% up to 370% of the normal usage.

On an Touch Cruise in normal Mode it will be 177mAh, in dicharge 257 mAh. So an increase about round 150% of the normal Useage.

So, the Betterymust be dischargeing faster. ;)

More detailed tests will come ...

Now i will Upload the Version for Non VGA divices from HTC.

Please wait wihle the Version 1.9.519 will be uploaded.

Tested on Trinity, Touch Cruise, p3300 and Touch Pro.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] abumhmmd1:
THANKs

:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] mylostblog:
Nice App.. Thanks for Sharing!! :)

Works great on my HD
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] mindfrost82:
While I know they say its not good to fully discharge these batteries, I have noticed some improvement after flashing a new ROM. It seems like the battery meter gets more accurate after letting the battery get down to 1-4% then fully charging it before using it again.

So this app would help drain it faster.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] the_ozyrys:
While this can be useful to discharge battery completely just for

calibration of battery monitoring unit, it serves no purpose to

"deep-cycle" battery everytime, since it wears out on battery

more than charging it when it's still partially charged (it's like

expanding a spring, it wears out less when you expand it more

frequently, but to lesser extend, than when you force it to expand

to it's limits but less frequently)... I've proved this to myself with

my previous phone (SE P900, with excellent battery, Li-Pol 1260mAh

and 16h of talk time), when I've killed first battery by NiMH "care"

method (discharging completely until phone won't boot + fully

charging) in about one year, while next one used in normal way (frequent

charging when not completely drained) served me for about 2.5 year...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Eisbehr:
Why do the most people only see a complete/deep discharge?

You can also monitoring the time to drain 10%, or the loading curve?!

No one must discharge till the device is shutting down ...

But if somone need, i can implement a automatically break.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] the_ozyrys:
Maybe better idea would be not to drain battery by program,

but to monitor energy consuption and foreground applications,

and then prepare graph of most power-hungry apps?

By comparing power consuption of, for example, Opera, users

can check if they device isn't more hungry than it should be...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] ermenzegna:
not working at my hermes ............ anyone ???
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Eisbehr:
I will try to get a Hermes / TyTn and check this.

But normally i must work. Its still the same WM as on the Trinity.

Witch error you will get?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] nir36:
btw, you can check electromagnetic radiation and see differences between 2G and 3G like this.. as a proof to battery usage differences
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Scrtcwlvl:
You stated one could use this application to also monitor battery usage over normal use by disabling the backlight override and background worker, I am wondering if this does this fully eliminate the negative battery drain increased by this application?

I am currently running a battery drain trail that examines the current raphael radios effect directly on battery life through normal usage and I have been on the lookout for a battery monitor application that does not effect normal usage of the phone nor cause negative effects on battery life.

All of the currently available free applications I have found and tested are either inconsistent in their monitoring of battery life or greatly influence the battery life themselves causing inconsistent drain. While I see the usage of this application and commend you for your work thus far, as a suggestion for the future you may wish to look into creating simply a monitor. One that either every given time interval, kicks the phone out of sleep for a second, logs the battery level and time and goes back to sleep. Or simply logs the battery level and time every instance where the phone is taken out of standby / sleep. Either one would serve the community greatly as a battery application that accurately logs the drain without horribly influencing the battery life. One that any user could run without any major negative effects.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] ermenzegna:
device wrote :

Can't find an Entry Point

'HTCUtilSetOnBatteryBrightnessLevel' in

a PInvoke DLL 'HTCUtil.dll'

pls .......... tQ
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] khaytsus:
I thought about all sorts of things to suggest, like S2U2, IM+, etc, to drain ones battery, but I see this project does have some merit. :) I do have one suggestion for another battery draining method; turn on GPS! Or maybe you don't want the battery to drain that fast ;-)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] kaanHAN:
That's a great idea..

do you have a chance to operate mobadi on i900 omnia?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Eisbehr:
@ermenzegna:

Oh, thar kind of error ...

You use not the Original ROM on your TyTn, or?

@khaytsus:

Its a good Idea. I write it on my ToDo list. Thanks. ;)

@kaanHAN:

Yes. A Version for non-HTC device will come. Probably it will run on all WM Devices, with one exception. Mobadi use the HTCUtil.dll. And that file is not on Omnia. ;)

But wait, a Version will come, even for Omnia and Xperia.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] ermenzegna:
yup, i use cook ROM.

ohhhhhhhh, maybe i should flash my ROM again to original one.

thanks for your respond, i appriciate that.

cheers.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Eisbehr:
Cooked ROMs must be supported when the version for non HTC Device is out.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Eisbehr:
Some little News, Mobadi in the actual version (1.9.519) will run on Sony Ericsson X1i (Xperia) without changes.

I think Sony Ericsson will not only use HTC Hardware, even the Software is from HTC. :p

The new Version of Mobadi will come soon ...

Eisbehr
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] bauerpavel:
Thanx for the development you do here. Since this is purely battery related thread let me point you to my "LI-ion batteries myth busting" thread....just to be sure to know what is good for your battery and what is not ;)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=518861

I don't mean to undermine your project in any way, just want to raise a warning to everybody who is planning on using your software on daily basis - with li-ion batteries you are likely to shorten battery life by dischsrging too deeply. It is recomended to charge more often rather than draining your battery to nearly 0% or even let it "die". However it is recomended to let the battery die once in 30 charging cycles to help the device to read battery level properly - and how I see it, that's a moment for your utility to jump in the scene :)

All the best to everybody!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Eisbehr:
Thanks for your post.

I think you Battery-Guide is great for some Questions here. If it is ok, i will include the link in my first post. So some user can read before use.

Eisbehr
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] bauerpavel:
Be my guest, neighbour :)

PS: Thread moved to "Raphael" section ;)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=518861
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] darfri:
A good way to superdischarge is to turn on wifi

Have you seen this already?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Eisbehr:
Yes, WiFi is a nice way. Its a point for the next version(s).

I know BattLog. But ...

A "Battlog" that loggs if my device have phone service or not? Why?

If you want to write BattLog at your own, try the "tutorial" from CodeProject:

http://www.codeproject.com/KB/mobile/WiMoPower1.aspx :P
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] losdrivare:
Excellent program. :D

I would like to humbly present a feature request:

Is it possible to make the program to measure the time to discharge and log the time the battery takes to reach 90%, 80%... 10% and even 5%?

Then, voila, we have a great app to measure battery capacities! :) It would be very useful when comparing a stock battery to an extended one. Especially when there are so many batteries floating around ebay with different more or less likely claims of mAh, most of them are probably just original batteries with new stickers...

What do you think?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] thangkls:
Nice Program !

Could you add a schedule stress: stress battery to some percent ( 10% or 5% , etc ) then stop ?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] ungureanub:
Hi Eisbehr,

Greate software. I used it this weekend to see the battery evolution, and I have 2 questions:

1. Why, after a while, I see only vertical lines in the graphic?

2. I see an export item in the menu, but when I click on it, nothing happens. I've look in my phone, but I could not found any file with the export. Is this feature implemented?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] nhvoltagenh:
i set mine to turn on the camera and LED the LED didnt turn on.

I do have a TP

ideas?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] emersonvier:
Thx, good work.

EMERSON VIER
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] rafalinx:
is this project still going on? :confused:
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] coolguy949:
My HTC Touch Pro has this feature built in. All you need to do is talk on the phone, text, or surf the web for a couple hours....or simply just leave it in your pocket all day and the phone battery will be completely dead. :p
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] ungureanub:
Any update here? This app has good potential. It will be too bad to die like this.

I hope we will hear soon about an update.

Good luck!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] mike2nl:
HI,

i will test this app omn my TP2. To regenrate the battyr yime to time. Thanks for sharing...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] mike2nl:
Hi Eisbehr,

in your litte usefull app the temperature for the TP2 isn't correct.

It mus be 36.0 degrees C, but it shows 3,6 degrees C. It is

possible that you add a registry key to set a divider or a multiplicator?

Or something in the settiings?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] jaskiratsingh:
I am using Asus P320 and needs to discharge my battery completely. I tried Start Discharge option and it threw an exception. Below are the details:

Mobadi.exe

MissingMethodException

Can't find PInvoke DLL 'HTCUtil.dll'

at

MobadiSystemCore.BacklightControl.BaclLightLevel.SetBacklightLevel()

at

Mobadi.Thread_setBacklight.setBacklight()

Please assist
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] jane.h:
Android

Hi, will be ever this app able on the Android? I will really appreciated it, cause it seems really useful :) it is really great idea!! :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] unicastbg:
This is years old, but hey - I just discovered it today :). Here's the htcutil.dll file:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1397326&postcount=817

I have an old HP Data Messenger and fixed the app's missing dll error by placing that file in the Windows folder.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] v8psp:
Hey guys, new tilt owner here. I just got Iguidance 4.1 and I can't seem to get it working. I installed the OVGA version on my memory card. I went to auto detect Satellites and set it to comp 4, but nothing ever happens it never finds the signal. I dont see the blue blinking light that I have read about either. Can someone help

Thanks in advance
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mycell:
Need a little more info. Where are you when your trying to get a signal? Also what do you have your baud rate set at? When I had Iguidance installed I appeared to get the best results with my baud rate set at 9600. You may want to verify that you GPS is actually working. There's a couple of tools on XDA that will help with that.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Eisbehr:
Hello XDA-Users,

please use this link, to the original Thread!

Tested Devices:

- HTC Touch Pro

- HTC Touch HD

- HTC Touch Diamond

- HTC Touch Cruise

- HTC Trinity

- HTC p3300 Artemis

- Sony Ericsson X1(i)

Screenshot:

Eisbehr
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] rjmjr69:
Nice idea if it wasnt against recommendations of draining LIO batts.... Good work though maybe a limit stop at what 40%
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Eisbehr:
Hello,

Why stop at 40%?

You only need the 40%-mark to store your Battery, and only with a LiIon Type. Else you can discharge it on your HTC to 0%. The HTC has a secure-funktion to not total/deep discharge the Battery. So, 0% at the HTC are not 0% capacity in the Battery.

Greets ...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gil@spoontools.com:
Hi,

I just started using Winterface and I must say it's very nice.

I'm looking for ways to add more content to the pages.

So far, the following are standard capabilities:

- websites

- contacts

- special toggle buttons (bluetooth, Wifi)

- of course: applications and settings

I managed to find a weather CAB which is nice too.

Now I'm looking for ways to do the following:

1. change the skin of the application (not just the icons)

2. Add content like appointments or tasks - embedded inside one of the pages.

Anyone knows how to do it?

Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] garyjmobey:
just for reference

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=455254

deals with the icons

winterface 1.2 isn't skinable, 1.31 comes with two skins

I've not tried that version but if any skinning is possible I'd guess you'd need to start with that version and a lot of hacking around

Gary
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] oscarbum:
Actually, there are several skins in this forum. For version 1.2, in fact.

Here's one:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=455254&highlight=winterface

Here's another:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=454157&highlight=winterface
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] garyjmobey:
again mostly just the icons

though your second link has the weather plugin mentioned by the original poster

(your first link is the same place as my link)

but hey it's a start :-)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] chanjerry:
I am using LG KS20 WM6.1 rom, i found that Winterface is very unstable at KS20

Everytime its running for certain time, it will halt and unable to wakeup, unless unplug the battery

Is there anyway to solve this problem?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nir36:
next time, please post this in the Q&A section.

thanks
[General Topics] momike205:
How or is there a tweak to display the to do list on my homepage... who needs the "call history"... id prefer to have something more practical like my to do list!!

PLEASE ANY HELP!! i dunno why HTC hasnt fixed this...

Thanx

Mike
[General Topics] -RDS-:
bump

I wonder if there is application showing Tasks (to do list) directly on home tab? for HTC Rhodium - WM 6.5

Just like Birthday Manila makes entries into Callendar so birthdays display on home tab.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] Sharpe1965:
Hi to All !

Currently I am using a Wizard with Win 6.1 flashed on it.

I´m thinking about buying a used Orange SPV M2000 because the display size is

larger and the CPU seems to be faster than the Wizard´s.

Will i be able to use A2DP with the Blue Angel also after flashing it to Win 6.1 ?

Does anybody have any experience on this ?

Please advise.

Thanks,

Karl
[G4] iki_hack:
Is there any chance to revive Chamer PM200 flashed with Prophet rom and after that tried to flash it with regular Charmer rom but pc restarted on near 30% of flashing,was on external usb supply,and now is completly dead no reaction,no bootloader mode :(
[G4] iki_hack:
I finally managed to get back to life the Charmer after jtag and hundreds times flashing :)

But now it is another problem : " Data Crashes.Please contact your service center." :S :S

On wizard tool it shows diferent checksums on cid,gues cid and all data gone :S:S

Any idea of repairing that???Anyone???
[G4] Myrddin Wyllt:
You realize that you're on a Wizard board, not a Charmer board, right? You're never (well, probably never) going to get any relevant advice.

Go here instead:

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=345
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] tikejhya:
it would be great if we get good finger friendly interface for file exploring and message/emails.

am i unaware of anything.

is there anything to come for such.

many thanks if there is any advice

and many thanks in advance if anything comming soon
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] crashDebug:
resco file explorer

vito smschat

the latter only for sms as far as i know
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] tikejhya:
Blackstone quality mate something like spb3 point ui interface resco looks not that pretty interms. and chat one doesn't holds that many conversation i think though not tried not definitely resco but i will try chat one thanks for suggestion

cheers
[Advantage X7510 General] adamo86:
i installed the ram cleaner from the freeware site for some reason when i connect to pc it dosent seem to know i have connected
[Advantage X7510 General] Just about right:
Check you PM.
[Advantage X7510 General] adamo86:
were do i go to check that

were do i go to check that
[Advantage X7510 General] adamo86:
i did hard reset

i thought when you do hard reset the device go back to normal
[Advantage X7510 General] Just about right:
PM is your Private Messages, which you got and when you hard reset, the device does go back to factory default, if you haven't updated with another ROM. If you did, then the device will default to the ROM you updated with.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] hadmanysons:
I've been tethering my phone with PDAnet and just recently it has started to act up. The only way my computer will recognize and sync with my phone is if I put a little downward pressure on the usb cable (phone side). Then, if it gets jostled to much it'll disconnect and say "USB device not recognized" when I try to plug it in again. It will start working if I put my computer into stand-by or shutdown. But only once. What is going on?