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[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] YannR:
Hello,

It doesn't seem to be critical as I can run a "fastboot boot recovery-new.img" without any problem but I think my in-built Recovery is "broken". Starting with VolDown + Power gives me the HBOOT mode but I see displayed the following messages on the device :

SD Checking...

Loading...[SAPPDIAG.zip]

No image!

Loading...[SAPPDIAG.nbh]

No image or wrong image!

Loading...[SAPPIMG.zip]

No image!

Loading...[SAPPIMG.nbh]

No image or wrong image!

Then <BACK> FastBoot Mode is proposed. No Recovery/Nandroid screen.

My HTC Magic has already hacked SPL and I already did every steps described here :

http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting

And, being a noob on Android, should I try to flash the boot-new.img mentionned in the procedure posted here in this thread :

But I'm suspecting Haykuro's Magic RooteMe ROM has done the job already... or? [Edit] And this is not related to the Recovery problem, right?

So, I'm wondering how I can get this sorted out... Any tips?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cmf:
You get to the Recovery/Nandroid screen via Home + Power. You get to Fastboot via Vol-Dn + Power.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] YannR:
LOL... I'm stupid... :p

Thank you, cmf!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cmf:
It's OK. I made the same mistake, backwards.. I was trying fastboot in Recovery/Nandroid mode. :)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] stevetigersix:
hi people im a complete self confesed n00b when it comes to android platform and ive just landed myself a htc magic/sapphire and wanted to do some improvements on it. Im okish on pcs so following instructions isnt an issue.

my questions this

is it easy peasy to root this bad boy and flash it with a new rom apart from the wiki guide to haykuro in this thread is it as easy as he suggests, also once rooted i gather you will no longer get ots updates,true or false. Also can we flash anything thats been done for the dream like the latest dream interfaces? looking foward to rosie comming our way eventually

btw anyone done a video tutorial or pic tutorial ive browsed youtube etc and found nothing
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] csw43:
Hi Steve, just follow the instructions as stated, it is as easy as it sounds. You will not be able to flash G1/dream interfaces, or at least its not advisable :). The dream has a hardware keyboard etc......and yes you are right, no more ota updates.

Good luck

Craig
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] stevetigersix:
thanks for that craig i might jump in and do the fandango with it:rolleyes:.....stilll worried about bricking it though lmao.

do you think we will get something like this from haykuro as well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRX5N5bte68
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] csw43:
I have no idea Steve, im too old for all this now :). I rooted my Magic earlier on but having had a g1 and now the magic and seeing the talents of haykuro et al i dont see why not. Lets be fair without haykuro the Magic forum would be a quiet place really. It seems to be all happening in the G1 area at the moment.

Regards Craig
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] YannR:
Very true. But that will change over time : Sapphire sales are just starting... And I'm guessing we will see more users when HTC Magic exclusivity (my assumption) in Vodafone territories will end.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] csw43:
Agreed, but unless im mistaken, haykuro does not own or use a magic, so why the need to provide root solutions, ion roms etc. All im saying is that im not talented enough to do develop these solutions myself, so im very grateful for any and all assistance.

Regards Craig
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cmf:
That's just because the Magic was only launched in the UK with Vodafone a few weeks ago, and only released in Singapore today (30th May), and not released anywhere else yet, or thereabouts anyway.

As more and more tech savvy people get hold of these units there will be a busy community around them. The Magic is going to be such a better seller than the G1, simply because it doesn't have Alfa-like looks and is quite obviously sexy.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] csw43:
I dont disagree, the magic is a better looking handset, thats not my point. My argument is that i am not clever enough to develop any of this, so i have to wait for people like haykuro to come up with ideas and solutions for me........and alot of others also....credit where its due

Regards Craig
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cmf:
I think it would be helpful for people to know whether they actually need a "rooted" image or not, although not that it matters, since rooting an image seems to be such a trivial change anyway (modifying a bash-like script in the image).

Am I correct in assuming that running a non-standard/modified/third-party-supplied/acquired image does not require a hacked image/phone? Does it just require: Fastboot to be enabled (as seems to be the case on the Magic so far anyway), and a one-time execution of the nandroid/update capable recovery image, via "fastboot boot recovery-new.img" so that "apply update" can be run from the Recovery screen. The image that is actually flashed can be bog-standard HTC/Google/Voda/whoever, unrooted ?

What's the deal with the bootloader and cryptographic signatures on the images? Does a special bootloader need to be found/created & loaded for a non-default/non-voda image to be run on the unit without errors due to bad signatures? Or is the signature just checked on updates via the running image, and not relevant to booting images e.g. Vodafone OTA updates can only be applied via a Vodafone-running system?

It's be helpful to me, and I'm sure others, if they knew what they were doing and why. cheers.

It's just that I think people get the jitters about "running a rooted image", and perhaps don't realise that they don't need a rooted/hacked image just to run the Google ION image, or HTC original image, or whatever. It'd be helpful if they knew they were just running a totally normal, non-rooted (since that's a scary sounding word), non-default set of software.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cmf:
Of course, credit is due definitely, and I'm very grateful to Haykuro and am hopeful he'll be the man to supply us the HTC original image. I was just commenting on the "G1 is where it's all at" side of things.

Hopefully Haykuro will get himself a Magic ;)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] stevetigersix:
ok now im lost:confused:

lol i used to own a htc p3300/xda orbit and that was easy to flash to a rom this however is different thing and for some reason it scares the bejasus ota me lol, paranoid moi....you better believe it
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] csw43:
I would also like the original HTC image, but it seems that at the moment the G1 thread is where it is all at.......i think we want the same things here and appreciate all the help given by others :)

Regards Craig
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cmf:
Well, "got root", or "rooted", means that you are able to run/execute things on the device as though you are a superuser with full control/access and no limitations. That's what a lot of people want, so they can run particular things on the handset, modify certain things, tether via bluetooth, hack this and hack that.

But, if I'm understanding correctly, root access or a rooted image is not needed to just "flash a different rom", and that's what I'm trying to clarify for people, because I think people might think of "a rooted android phone" as something like a jailbroken iPhone, which might break/stop working at the next update..
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cmf:
Exactly the reason for my posts..
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] magpie2000k:
Installing the drivers

Hi folks I have read the entire thread and all the wiki pages.

I cant tell my device to use the drivers in the android SDK

Please help
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] w3rw01f:
try this:

If you don't use Windows or adb has no problem with your device,

please skip this.

If your G1 or HTC Magic is not properly recognized by ADB under

Windows, please read this.

The bottom line: Please make sure to enable Home > Settings >

Applications > Development > USB debugging on your G1 or HTC Magic

*before* you plug it in Windows the very first time.

If you read this after the fact, googling why "adb doesn't recognize

my device under Windows", here are the steps to fix it:

This concerns both the G1 and HTC Magic and all flavors of Windows.

1- Remove existing drivers:

1a- Plug your phone

1b- Open the Device Manager

1c- Remove any driver for [ADB Interface > HTC Composite ADB

Interface] and [Disk Drives > HTC Android Phone USB Device] if you see

them

1d- Unplug phone

2- Edit the registry

2a- Disclaimer: be careful what you do in regedit. If you're not sure,

don't use it :-)

2b- Open the Registry Editor (Start > search/run > regedit)

2c- You _may_ need to be administrator to do that

2d- Search for "vid_0bb4&pid_0c02" in keys or values. It makes take a

while. If you find in a value, delete the whole key folder.

2e- Some keys might be "locked": right-click them and add "everyone:

full control" to the permissions. Then delete the key folder.

2f- Repeat the search till no more instances are found.

2g- Close regedit.

3- Before your plug in your phone:

3a- Make sure to enable Home > Settings > Applications > Development >

USB debugging on your G1 or HTC Magic

3b- Plug the phone in. Windows should now ask you for a driver

3c- Do NOT selected to search the Windows Update. Instead select "I

will choose a driver" or the equivalent.

3d- Make sure to give the *full* path to the x86 or x86_64 driver, e.g:

SDK/usb_driver/x86/

or SDK/usb_driver/x86_64/

If you just select "SDK/usb_driver", Windows might take the wrong

architecture and complain the driver can't be installed.

source: http://groups.google.com/group/andr...92dcc0a8a9a23/903290bb363ea565?lnk=raot&pli=1
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] w3rw01f:
have you flashed radio first?

you can find files here: http://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/downloads/list
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] magpie2000k:
Thanks for that do I need to rename it
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] w3rw01f:
yes, any update has to be named update.zip in order to be applied =)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] magpie2000k:
this is for Magic correct
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] w3rw01f:
it's both for dream and magic
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] magpie2000k:
I tried and it aborts states that not dream
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] w3rw01f:
ok. then skip radio update and use http://sapphire-port-dream.googlecode.com/files/spl-signed.zip, if u have any problems after that try to wipe
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] magpie2000k:
hi thanks for all your help so far but still get to the formatting cache...

the update seems only to take seconds then reboot and get back to same place..

Was looking for the update as I read that keyboard was better.

Any advice would be great but remember I am a nood with Android
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] w3rw01f:
try using this rom - http://android.smartphonefrance.info/firmware/magic-13.zip

note that there are update.zip and recovery-magic.img in that archive.

update.zip goes to your sdcard; img file to the same directory as fastboot.exe on your computer, boot into bootloader using BACK+POWER, then run fastboot boot recovery-magic.img in command line (on computer). do a backup, wipe, update, and reboot. after that you should be fine)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] magpie2000k:
Hi thanks this seems to be working does backup backup my dowloaded programs I have paid for?

Then which rom is the latest should I then go onto flash the one I need or is this it..

Cheers

again
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] w3rw01f:
yes, backup saves everything.

latest rom is the one that i provided (http://android.smartphonefrance.info/firmware/magic-13.zip), it includes latest security updates, so i recommend you stick with it, because other roms here have various bugs and not maintained.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] BigRD:
Did you get ADB/fastboot working with the correct USB drivers?

When it appears to freeze at formatting cache and not doing anything else this is the correct behaviour. You should notice that the highlight has now moved back to the top of the list over reboot.

You can now apply the update.

The correct "update.zip" should be on the root of the SD card and the process should take around 5 minutes to complete. By that I mean download the zip file and rename it to update.zip DO NOT EXTRACT IT then copy it to the SD Card. I don't have it to hand but if I remember it's approx 35Mb in size. Press the roller over Update. You should be able to see a faint yellow progress bar behind the detail text.

It can take a while if it's the 1st boot on a new image.

Be patient :)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] magpie2000k:
HI mate that has worked..

Now two questions left and peace for you.

1: where do I get my programs back from, ie can I just get them from the market again and it will know that I have already paid or do I have to locate them.

2: I can dial but not get data access since flashing. when I click APN's nothing come up. where can I get vodaphone ones from any ideas.

Sorry again and thank you very much for your help thus far
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] w3rw01f:
=)

1: you can get your programs in market under My Downloads - you will need to download them all again, not sure about paid ones, but as list of programs is stored in google account you won't need to pay for them anymore.

2: You have to add APN's manually (press menu button and then "add apn). Sorry, i don't know which operator you are using, so just search for APN settings in google, or on the operator's website.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] magpie2000k:
Thanks for all your help.

Youve been a star.

Do you have any other tips that I should be looking to do as a noob.

All working email account set back up and can see my downloads.

Cheers any other tips would be great
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] w3rw01f:
:D can't think of any, just ask if you want to know something
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] kjeldjensen:
Problem at 'fastboot boot recovery-new.img'

I don't get it. I have tried numerous times and read through this entire thread. I did find some mentioning the same problem, but I couldn't find any answers, so here it goes...

I strictly follow the procedure at: http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting

The problem occurs, when I get to run the command:

fastboot boot recovery-new.img

fastboot responds with:

downloading 'boot.img'... OKAY

booting... OKAY

and then exits.

The HTC Magic then boots showing a black screen with a HTC logo on. And that is all what happens. I never get to select the update.zip, it just hangs at the black screen.

What am I missing? The HTC Magic was bought today from a danish provider (3.dk) it is running firmware 1.5 kernel 2.6.27-dd63d1eb

Any help highly appreciated, thanks!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] BigRD:
@kjeldjensen

Hold down Home + Power when booting to get to the utility menu
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] kjeldjensen:
When would I do this?

If I do it when the power is off, I get to a black screen with a sign containing a !

If I do it after having run the command 'fastboot boot recovery-new.img' and hence got the black screen with the htc logo, then nothing happens.

Regards, Kjeld
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Izpinne:
I think that the Nordic Magic phones cannot be rooted since haykuros recovery-new.img isnt compatible with the newly released phones in the nordic countries...

Some other nordic users reported having problems in this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=515074&page=2
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] kjeldjensen:
Ok, that makes sense, thank you very much.

/Kjeld
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
Yes that correct the original nonbranded HTC Magic can´t be rooted at this time because the recovery-new.img is different from the Vodafone one.

So no root, no new romtesting for us - but its okay for me this HTC-rom is the best out there, I´ve tried them all on my former HTC Magic Vodafone.

Its so smooth and has all the nice apps. like ms exchange, HTC dialer, PDF viewer, Quickoffice, Teeter.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] kjeldjensen:
You are probably right, but I intend to look into accessing the accelerometer and wifi (or bluetooth) at the same time from a linux application, so I will probably need root access (without knowing much about the magic yet). One of the goals is to control one of our robots using the magic :-) http://www.fieldrobot.dk

But I can wait, hopefully in the near future someone will hack our version also.

Thank you for your answer.

/Kjeld
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Izpinne:
How is the speed compared to for instance Ion and Roger?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ranxoren:
So i guess the reason why i cant seem to root on my Rogers one is the same as the one why kjeldjensen cant root ... makes sense.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Z3ko:
Fot the German users here :)

http://www.ppcfreaks.de/thread-1193.html

Try out my Noob Helper :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Aznsilvrboy:
Hi guys, I'm sure this type of question has been beat to death, but mine is a bit more specific. If I'm not mistaken, different radios will have different performances on different cellphone carrier networks, the one in question here is Rogers Wireless in Canada which I'm on.

I am currently using 1.00.25.05 which I read is pretty good in terms of battery life and everything else. However I'm not too content with this radio because it seems like I've experience a lot more dropped calls since switching to this radio. So my question is, which one is the best for the Rogers network? For me, best means excellent reception and battery life. Thanks in advance.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] hjlow:
i have tried all of the latest ones but best by far has been:

1.09.25.23

it does depend on the ROM as well I think and maybe this should have been posted in radio thread :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chgrbt:
I find 1.09.25.23 to work very well too...I'm in Toronto. Signal is a little inconsistent in some parts of my house...but that's to be expected with lots of new condo buildings popping up in the area...I assume those buildings are affecting signal from the radio towers. Battery life is decent considering I am using the 1000mah Seideo...get's through a full day most of the time with my level of use...4-8 text messages...and about an hour voice.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] BB88:
To me, I tried many recent radio up to 1.12.xx, but I still find that 1.00.25.06 (the default Rogers radio) is the best in terms of reception bars :) Battery is decent as well.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chgrbt:
Toronto area? Also...which ROM? Recently, I've had trouble holding signal with 1.00.25.06 and am not sure why.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] goraps:
I am in Toronto and have never really had a problem with default one either. Maybe I don't know what I am missing but since I have never really had a problem with it I have never changed it. So I am using 1.00.25.06 with the latest Energy ROM.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] 65coupei6:
I just came back from a cruise to Alaska. 1.14. worked very well for me the whole trip. From San Francisco to Alaska then to Victoria. GPS pick up was very quick and phone reception was great even off shore.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chgrbt:
Which 1.14? There's 1.14.25.05 and 1.14.25.24...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chgrbt:
Yes...I too realize this stuff could be posted in the radio thread...but consider that on this thread we have Roger's Wireless customers; unless it's not good thing to have a carrier-oriented thread. I understood that radio performance (signal and battery) is most likely influenced by carrier and location. It's difficult in the main radio thread to determine who is a Roger's customer. My 2 cents...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chargedRam:
1.00.25.06

I am using the factory radio .. and I have never faced any problems with my calls, reception or GPS (somewhat)....

With GPS there have been times when the fix was delayed by 3-4 minutes. But everything else ... OK

I am sure some members would be able to shed some more light on the perfect combination of ROM + RADIO

CR
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] BB88:
I have been using Dutty's 3.6b and 4.0 for the longest time. Recently I have been trying EnergyRom 3, Gen.Y 1.2x, and Shaks 4.3. Not sure if it is ROM related, the signal bar at work is 1 bar less now. :( Though, it's still going pretty strong. I may try other radio with these new ROMs.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] 65coupei6:
Sorry about that. 1.14.25.05 w/rll
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] daeshawn:
I'm using BsB 6.5 I with 1.12.25.16 and the signal is good, no drop calls quick connects etc
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chgrbt:
Let is know how it goes with 1.14.25.05.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] daeshawn:
To me it seems the same as 1.12.25.16...one thing i did kinda notice is my device getting a little hot (when using opera, as well as after a soft reset)...not sure if that is a result of the radio or the flashing i have been doin lately...will test a little longer
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Rumball:
I've been using 1.00.25.05 but have notice loss of service in areas where I previously had service. I'm going back to the default Rogers radio of 1.00.25.06
[Off-topic] adeltaY:
Hello all, I am planning to get one of these close to when they come out (June 10 in the US), the 16GB one for $300, and I was wondering if any of our UK members could tell me how it is. I have read some reviews, and it seems pretty cool, but could I have some more thoughts on the browser, and especially if the screen resolution and screen size are adequate. I have an HTC Fuze, which is 2.8" and its okay, is 3" much of a difference, cuz it seems so when looking at the Fuze vs the X1. Thanks guys, cheers.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] scottd1975:
Well so Opera sucks really bad most websites i go to the fonts too damn small to see is there a fix for this or another browser i can download?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] dwmackay:
Wow Scott,

Welcome to the forum. What a pleasant post from such a new member.

Well let's see... perhaps you would prefer the new IE in 6.5. You could give that a try. There is Skyfire. Several seem to like that. Oh, you might also try to do a search. Amoung the issues you are searching for, you might also notice, perhaps, a slightly elevated degree of decorum as measured against your intial entries.

Happy hunting.

Doug M.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] scottd1975:
sorry for the abrupt post most of the forums i go to for whatever are to the point, and can be mean to the newbs... i will search but i may need to take the phone into the store because the internets not working like i should even with full bars.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] thesilentnight:
You could try Iris Browser....and most builds of opera have a zoom feature so the font wont be as small...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] acidbath5546:
NOOB??

1. Try looking for a different Opera Build.

2. Next time try being a liitle bit less angry....LOL
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] BumAround:
it's the other way around for me, IE8 is getting to my nerves.

what is your Opera version anyway? I believe you can use 'one column' view to eliminate too small fonts.

wondering when will Google/Mozilla make their browser avails for mobile devices.