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[G1 Accessories] veda_sticks:
Im surprised that there are so many people surprised about the battery life of the G1. I just received mine yesterday, and have charged it twice. Compared to my old phone (mda vario) which would hold a charge for a few days it seems really bad.

But when you think about how the phone works and whats in it. Theres no way that the standard battery will last that long with constant fiddling and playing.

The phone is constantly connected to 3G. Keeping your contacts calander and email synced.

Then theres the GPS, which also when used is a big battery killer.

Using wifi uses quite a bit of power too even on my old phone wifi would considerably drain the battery and thats with a new battery.

No doubt that there are a few bugs that may be causing unessesary battery drain. But that can be said about alot of the WM phones too.

That high capacity battery is a good investment.
[G1 Accessories] phatman81:
I glanced over the 8 pages, but didnt see it mentioned...

I have been using the battery status program in the phone to keep track of the levels. I usually turn my phone off every night and stated to notic a weird trend. When i turn the phone on in the morning, battery status shows the charge % much higher than when i turned it off. (no charging at night, just turned it off for maybe 6-8 hours) I have seen changes up to 20% or more (one night the phoen had about 70% charge and the next morning it was in the high 90's). This may explain, at least in my case, why it seems some days the phone runs all day and other days only a few hours...

Has anyone else experienced this at all?
[G1 Accessories] xavier6303:
I can attest to that. I noticed about a 15% battery gain with the phone being off for two hours.
[G1 Accessories] Audiofreq:
My battery seems much better since the RC8...not sure if it's cos of RC8 or if i've turned some power burning feature off without realising it...
[G1 Accessories] tim273:
I got an 8GB Sandisk microHD for $26(shipping included) from Amazon. Here's the link:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0012Y2LLE
[G1 Accessories] neoobs:
Most objects will show increase in battery power when turned off for periods of time. I have done this with walkie talkies that wouldn't be able to send a message... turned it off for 5-10 minutes and back on and I could use it for another couple minutes.

I do like what veda_sticks, on my wing when I used wifi I could get 2 hours on a full charge... on the g1 I use 3G constantly for myself and now I last at least a good 8 hours... I also bought a portable motorola charger that t-mobile had on sale.. I can charge that and the phone over night on the same plug... it is really nice and reminds me of the pebble but it keeps my phone charged if I need to do battery intense stuff... I would say it gives me a full charge.
[G1 Accessories] punkzanyj:
I got mine yesterday. They sent it UPS, and since I wasn't home, I had to go pick it up because UPS SUCKS!

I thought it was funny because I just got the G1 last month, and I bought it from T-Mobile. So they know I switched phones. But I guess it's good that they did send it. I still use the Wing to record my workouts in excel. As soon as there's an excel reader/editor (doesn't have to be 2007, even!) I'll be able to stop using the Wing altogether.
[G1 Accessories] Ben74:
Battery dead after 4 hours on standby? Phone very warm.

i've had my G1 for a few days, and so far it's behaved well. battery life has been unimpressive, but i at least get a full day with light use and GPS on. however, today i took the phone off the charger with a full charge at about 12:30pm and went to a coffee shop. the phone was in my laptop bag at the coffee shop, on standby, wifi off, GPS off, BT off, 3G mode, screen locked. at 4:30pm, i pulled out the phone, and it was off. tried to boot it, but it only showed the boot screen for a few seconds then turned off. the phone was very warm, as if it had just come out of my pants pocket, but it had been sitting in a cold room nowhere near any heat sources. the area in my laptop bag where it sat was also very warm. note that my laptop was not in the bag at the time. i came home and put it back on the charger. after a few minutes, it was able to boot, and showed a 10% charge. i checked the call log, but no calls were made. something strange is going on here. the fact that the phone was so warm and the battery was dead seems to indicate that it was busy doing something while i was at the coffee shop, but i don't know what. anyone got any ideas? i am running the modded RC30 w/ root access.
[G1 Accessories] HOGWILD:
try turning off the gps and check other settings their is a new power management app in the market try looking at that...but mine gets warm every time my gps is running...
[G1 Accessories] Ben74:
as i stated above, the GPS was off.
[G1 Accessories] Gary13579:
If you were running any of the proxy apps, those will kill the battery extremely fast.
[G1 Accessories] Ben74:
not sure which apps you're referring to, but i don't believe i have any proxy apps running.
[G1 Accessories] Yos025:
The same happened to me the other night. I went to bed and it was about 70%. Woke up about 5 hours later and it was off. I was surprise, my g1 keeps the charge as long as is on stand by. When I turned it on (While connected) it prompted for the RC 30 update. I thought maybe that was trying to push for the last five hours and drained the battery. The phone is back to normal...
[G1 Accessories] Ben74:
yos, the OTA update thing occurred to me as well, but i figured why would it be trying to update if i'm already at RC30? as far as i know, there isn't a more recent update. if my battery was indeed wasted by trying to download an OTA update, that's disturbing. can you imagine if you're away from home or traveling and you need to use your phone, but the battery was dead from downloading an OTA update? what if it's a life or death emergency. seems like we should have a choice of when an OTA update downloads.
[G1 Accessories] Ryanmo5:
I highly doubt the ota update killed your battery like that. I agree with you we should have a choice not have it shoved down our throats!! I was saying no to for forever until one day I accidentally hit yes. :mad: Perhaps something you changed or did with root access messed up your phone.
[G1 Accessories] Ryanmo5:
As a Fedex employee I can back up your statement, Ups sucks lol.
[G1 Accessories] Ben74:
doubt it. i modded it right off the bat, and it has been working fine for several days until now.
[G1 Accessories] mr_roboto:
I just contacted t-mobile and they told me no extended battery program is in effect. Any way I can bug them to send me an extended battery?
[G1 Accessories] Impossible:
For the past two mornings I have woken up to my G1 being off...

The reason was that the battery was depeleted. Currently im only using 2g with no GPS or wifi on. I have noticed that upon taking it out of my pocket the bottom area of the phone is warm (the area behind the mouse ball and buttons)

I cant belive how fast the battery is running out at the moment. I had fully charged it twice yesterday, and thats with no Wifi/GPS/bluetooth usage =(

Imp
[G1 Accessories] brooklynite:
the GPS turn off and on mod is NOT working, and that is what is draining the battery depending on what software you have installed. The apps can turn the GPS on and off and that causes battery drain.

I have had the GPS ON and the maps and other software could not locate me while my car GPS next to me (and I am outside the car) locates me right away. Some other times, the GPS has been off and (the wireless locating was off too) and the phone actually finds my location which means the app I was using could turn on the GPS.
[G1 Accessories] Ben74:
brooklyn, you realize, of course, that the phone can estimate your location based on the cell tower you're connected to. the GPS doesn't necessarily have to be turned on for the maps application to show you where you are. it will be less accurate with the GPS off, but just because maps shows you a location doesn't mean the GPS is on. besides, having the GPS on doesn't explain why the battery went from 100% to zero in four hours.

imp, i have also noticed that the phone gets warmer on the bottom (trackball) end. from the teardown photos/videos around the internet, i get the impression that the CPU is down there. this makes sense, since the CPU is probably the only component in the phone capable of making it so warm. this would lead us to believe that these rapid battery drains might be due to high CPU usage. i'm thinking one of the apps i have installed is overusing the CPU. i'm going to uninstall everything i don't really need, to see if that helps.
[G1 Accessories] Gary13579:
Incorrect. Bluetooth, WiFi, and the battery can heat up almost as bad as the CPU. When I was charging my old phone, using a bluetooth headset, and talking on it, it would heat up to nearly 120 degrees where the Bluetooth chip was.
[G1 Accessories] sh!mon:
Explain location thing more please

So the deal with turning off the wireless networks under location saving battery... can you explain this more?

What does this actually mean? Will calendar,gmail n everything still b syncing just fine?

I just need anything that will get me more battery life!

thnx:)
[G1 Accessories] Mikey:
Turn everything off or buy an extend battery off of Ebay.
[G1 Accessories] veda_sticks:
If you take the batter out, its a 1150 battery. Which is smaller than what was in my mda battery which is 1250. On my mda vario battery life was decent. Though that only had a 200mhz processor. When browsing web on my vario the battery would drop 20% after an hour or so of browsing.

So its not so surprising that tha g1 battery drains so quickly.
[G1 Accessories] Dimath:
Do you have any other ideas of how the compasses can possibly work?
[G1 Accessories] demontefixo:
lasers... ;)

--M
[G1 Accessories] Mikey:
LMFAO ....ok don't kill this thread this quick.
[G1 Accessories] benmyers2941:
Well, there's always the this but I don't think it would work well without wheels.
[G1 Accessories] Iceucold:
16gb MicroSDHC 69.99

I've found a 16gb MicroSDHC for 69.99. Has anyone else seen any better deals on a card this size?

http://www.dz-tech.com/sandisk-16gb...hc-flash-memory-card-bulk-package-p-1075.html
[G1 Accessories] cmavr8:
I believe this info is incorrect.

A devices "draws" as many amperes as it wants, if it is allowed.

So, if you connect the G1 to its charger it will draw full 1A and charge quickly.

If you plug it in any other charger (lower amps) it will draw the maximum amperage of the charger. There will be no damage, but it will charge slower.

The practical proof is that HTC lets the G1 charge from its usb cable (rated for 0.5A max). If it was to get damaged or damage, usb cable would only be for transfers.

I thinkg I can provide more scientific proof if requested.

Thanks!

(Right now, my battery goes from 100% to 85% after 7 minutes of "Compare Everywhere" over wifi and with Bluetooth on. Will do a full cycle and report back)
[G1 Accessories] neoobs:
You are correct. It draws as much as it can to its full rating (1A) but if the charger can't do that it will go as high as possible. Now as long as the charger is decent quality it shouldn't be a problem. But of course if you use third party chargers that are inefficient (not the ones that came with your BB or other HTC device) it will of course not work correctly and possibly damage your device.

The main proof is like you said above. The USB from a computer is not 1A in fact it is usually a lot less and most the time can't even get up to 0.5A
[G1 Accessories] razor1394:
Battery drains really bad over here. Wifi is off but bluetooth, GPS (standby) and 3g is on. I've placed an order on the 2200mAh on Ebay. It should help a bit at least. I will be keeping my external battery on me.
[G1 Accessories] Mikey:
If you dont have the program called ANY CUT, get it. Create a short cut to Network settings *for 3g* toggling.

for EVERYTHING else i have the program shortcutted to my homescreen. It's called toggle settings. Awesome lil program.

Your battery will love you.
[G1 Accessories] lajtosi:
actually these type of Lithium Ion batteries do not need discharge at first use. Also HTC are charging every battery up to 75% in factory. When you are using your device on a charger it will still "top-up" the battery using the travel charger which can provide max 1000mAh output. When you are using your laptop, USB ports are limited to max 500mAh output power, however the "intelligence" to decide when top-up or allow full charge is built-in the phone...

Measuring battery life is a difficult and subjective task as the use case sceanrios are almost endless...to compare with other phone, same data transfer, same radio conditions are impossible. The HTC figures are nominal values which are indicative figures to "real" battery life....I hope it makes sense...:)
[G1 Accessories] jndscslegal:
found 8gb for 18.99 free shipping

www.meritline.com
[G1 Accessories] maxdamage2122:
Kingston 8GB microSDHC (Class 4) High Capacity Micro Secure Digital Card W/Adapter, Model SDC4/8GB, Free Standard Shipping!

direct link: http://www.meritline.com/kingston-8gb-microsdhc-card-with-adapter-class4.html

just ordered one. btw they charge sales tax. at least to MA residents. $19.94 shipped
[G1 Accessories] Ryanmo5:
I ordered one as well yesterday, no tax for az
[G1 Accessories] maxdamage2122:
So not fair.
[G1 Accessories] andonnguyen:
I remember the days when even a 4GB microsdhc card cost over $80. lol. I'll wait until next year when i can get 32GB for under $50 =]
[G1 Accessories] Ryanmo5:
lol sorry man!
[G1 Accessories] disflipissofresh:
g1 case!

http://www.accessoryexportwholesale.com/tg1casoblhon.html

i was thinking of getting one of these, but im also wondering if this is going to mess up my g1 since the closing for it is magnetic.

thanks.
[G1 Accessories] disflipissofresh:
or does anyone want to recommend a perfect belt case for g1?
[G1 Accessories] maxdamage2122:
FINALLY! I've been searching forever for a plastic belt clip and finally found one.

http://www.seidioonline.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=2724
[G1 Accessories] qtronix:
funky covers

anyone no where to get some cool covers from for the g1. iam in the uk but dont mind shipping. i cant find anything over here.

adam
[G1 Accessories] gospeed.racer:
are you thinking of the plastic covers like this? if so, I will say they are built pretty well- they are chunky- but sturdy. I am VERY disappointed however in the edges. Every edge is raw white plastic, and looks horrid. I would only recommend a white one, unless you are ok with white "highlights"
[G1 Accessories] jenol:
Go to www.seidioonline.com
[G1 Accessories] maxdamage2122:
not sure where you got your information from (or lack of information) http://www.seidioonline.com/Articles.asp?ID=135

i assume you've never had any seido products. their accessories are top notch, good quality, and very durable. $30+shipping is a little steep for me too but I will just wait for a coupon code or sale for that clip.
[G1 Accessories] jenol:
better than any crap they sell on ebay or any other place these pieces are made in the usa not china plus ive used there products for three years without any problems whatsoever so dont bash on what you dont know about
[G1 Accessories] jenol:
no thats cool but the ones ive bought for my curve my tre750 wing dash and others from seidioonline i have never broken but maybe thats me because im always aware of where my phone is they are very good quality though we you buy them if that worrks for you then great but ill stick with seidio i love there extended batteries same size as the original but packs a lot more power they will be putting one out for g1 soon and they are fully warrantied so happy hunting my friend
[G1 Accessories] jenol:
yes check out the site www.seidioonline.com
[G1 Accessories] razor1394:
Battery Thread!!!!

Just posting this pic to show how fat it looks with the new back cover.

I can't test it though as I have to stay away from the phone until It's fixed (glass pieces are breaking off the more I use it).

The battery is a bit harder to insert than the standard battery but it gets in. The back cover snaps on easily but there's a tiny, tiny space on the sides. There is no camera plastic cover just like the Seidio back cover for the Kaiser Seidio extended battery.
[G1 Accessories] Henchman:
I'll stick witht he 1600mah.

This is just too thick for me.
[G1 Accessories] razor1394:
Another comparison (not really good at this :confused:) against Kaiser with 3200mAh battery and hard case.
[G1 Accessories] Ryanmo5:
Lol this phone is big enough as it is, that looks so ridiculous its unreal!!!
[G1 Accessories] veda_sticks:
Compas on my g1 has never worked since i got it. Even outside in the open. Turn 180 results in a meer 20 degrees of compass movement.
[G1 Accessories] vr24:
Geeeeeeze.

I'll just wait for the 1600mah battery to come down in price.
[G1 Accessories] qtronix:
i bet you have trouble keeping your trousers up with that in your pocket :D

how long does it last compared to the battery you get with the phone.

adam
[G1 Accessories] Alpha Class:
im waiting for this

http://www.krusellcases.com/us/p_krusell_product.aspx?i=175772
[G1 Accessories] Alpha Class:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...E&N=2010070068 1053131144 1053313634&name=8GB

4th one down is a class 6 A-data 8gb for 18.99 free shipping 17.99 if you dont want a package

or you can get the class 4 kingston for the same price with a bunch of adapters free shipping of course

cali tax only i think
[G1 Accessories] Alpha Class:
i would have taken it for a push button type seal rather than magnetic

krussell tends to use buttons or zippers, physical seals

i suppose we'll have to wait till its officially released
[G1 Accessories] benmyers2941:
I've had quite a few bags that have had magnetic closures and they looked a lot like that. Personally I bought a cheap case, cut out the magnet, and replaced it with Velcro pads. Now that I know how to do it and make it look nice I may spring for a better case.
[G1 Accessories] residentEvil:
Got mine from newegg today but it won't work, :mad: tried it in the vista laptop...nothing..tried in the desktop xp...nothing .. tried to re-format in the digital camera...nothing even downloaded a program called Compuapps Swissknife v3...nothing, so New egg is sending me another one

..anybody else have problems? Awe crap just tried it on my HTC wing and it works no problem...WTF???
[G1 Accessories] tengtengvn:
Newegg has warehouses in Cali and TN.
[G1 Accessories] :
i found an 8gig microsd on amazon for $12. and it works great. sorry about the newegg one...
[G1 Accessories] tengtengvn:
with or with out shipping.
[G1 Accessories] Dalamak:
I thought the compass was GPS
[G1 Accessories] residentEvil:
Is yours sdhc ?
[G1 Accessories] jashsu:
SD tops out at 4GB. SDHC is required for 8GB and up.

Btw, the Kingston MicroSDHC is excellent. Made in Japan too.
[G1 Accessories] The Great NY:
16gb MicroSDHC Card

Ok, i made this thread a lil while ago, just basically inquiring about the 16gb card wondering if anyone had every used one yet. But i finally got it in the mail a couple days ago.

SANDISK 16GB MICRO SDHC CARD:

review -

loading speeds have not suffered whatsoever, i have like 7 full lentgh movies, LMAO (porn) and some music, as well as music videos and i have yet to have an issue with loading speeds and/or search speeds.

i got mine off ebay for $50 shipped and it came with a lil' USB adapter and normal sd adapter as well.

so my overall review is,

go get it........if you want more space....get it, no worries on load times and whther or not the phone will read it. it does, and its just under the full 16GB, something like 15,550 IIRC when i formatted it.

but its a great buy. more movies and media, here i come.
[G1 Accessories] Iceucold:
The Dream is capable of handling up to a 32gb MicroSDHC. Of course, I haven't received my 16gb micro sd yet so I couldn't tell you if it's easy to work with or not. Let me know how it turns out if you get it.
[G1 Accessories] kevinems:
the issue what you describe appear on my G1 once. But now it work perfect.

i once used magnet to affect my G1 compass sensor, and then it doesn't work well.

try:

1. take off the Battery and wait servel minute, and then power on, test your compass again.

2. if the first step doesn't work, i think you can use the magnet to affect your compass. i once tried several times.

i don't know whether what i do make sense, but my compass work well now.
[G1 Accessories] DJ_Steve:
Excessive Battery Drain

i know this has been posted before but i want to find out some info quickly. im wondering if anyone else has had an issue with the G1s battery life where it drops near enough to empty within an hour - i was using my new g1 (got for xmas) yesterday and it had about 80% charge at 9pm by the time i turned it off at 10pm it was down to 30% . thats once heck of a drop for an houtrs usage, was only using 3g, gps and wifi off, all location settings turned off.. im tempted to take the g1 back to store because it should not use trhat much power in an hour, my tytnII doesn even use that. whats everyone else think. should i complain to tmobile or is this sort of excessive drain normal
[G1 General] djstimpy:
hey i was wondering if there was away to downgrade to rc29 through OTA?

cuz for some reason im having trouble with downgrading through the bootloader.

and yea i have tried searching for it
[XPERIA X1 General] poetryrocksalot:
My notifications settings are unchecked for Text messages, and yet I still receive notifications for them. In fact all "display notifications" are unchecked. How do I fix this?

Also, the text message notification window is so small that I can't see anything. Any fix for this as well?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Pauli_87:
Hi!

this is my first post here, so sorry for my bad english or mistakes :)

i bought a qtek 9100 on ebay, and i'm wondering if it's a brick or not. i received the device 3 days ago. during this time i read through a LOT of threads here, tried a few things and nothing works.

here is some info:

- the phone is a qtek 9100 without branding

- the IPL is now 1.01 (i flashed "CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE" successfully)

- the SPL is 2.18 (because of the missing suffix ".0001" i guess it's a G3)

- GSM is 01.12.10

- OS is 1.5.4.2

- when i start the device (without any button pressed) it stops at the splash screen (which was a qtek logo before flashing, and is now this picture with a beer, that says "some things last forever" :D )

- i can get into bootloader screen (color screen) by holding camera button while starting

- in bootloader screen a small "USB" appears when i connect cable to usb on pc

- when i press communicate and voice buttons (on the sides) while starting, the "Press send to restore factory default" screen appears, but pressing send prints out "Format FAT Partition Format is Failed"

- the device gets recognized by windows ("Mobile Device" appears on my computer)

- ActiveSync 4.5 does not connect to device, not even as guest.

- when i hit "Connect..." in ActiveSync's connection settings, nothing is found

("Allow USB Connections" is ON)

- the device is CID-locked ("FF" state in Mtty 1.42)

- i can't unlock CID, because i can't get "EnableRapi.cab" onto the device without ActiveSync connection

Ok, these are basically the things i know now. The problem is that i never saw any other screen then the "HTC" boot screen, the "Qtek" splash logo (the one with the clouds) before i flashed with custom ruu wwe, after that i see the new splash logo, and i can get into bootloader (color) screen. I never saw any windows mobile running on this device! I could never establish a connection with ActiveSync!

So i hope that someone here on this nice forum can help me get this device to work (WM5 would even be enough right now) or at least give me a hint!

Thanks in advance!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] -MyHTC-:
Put the phone in bootloader mode and flash back to the original ROM.