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[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] fixxxer2008:
i did hard reset 2 times and installed my dcd cab for sprint, it doesn't fix anything. it must be a bug with 6.5 roms. i have since installed palm threaded messaging and all is fine now.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] joepicco:
could i please get a link to that?!?!?!?!?!
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] fixxxer2008:
heres the cab install. :)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] IrfanSEAT:
Is there a rom with touch flow 3d ??

Thanks in advance

Irfan
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] -yasser-:
Please post your thread here :

Questions and Answers Section for BA Forum. Post Your Questions Here
[G1 Android Development] d474rpr:
I started this thread as a constructive and positive place for those of us that have recently lost our G1's or ADP's. I am going to document all my settings, Radio version, Firmware, Build info, etc here and hopefully reverse engineer this issue until I have an answer. If anyone has any hardware engineering information on this device it would be greatly appreciated. I'm even willing to host a private forum from my site to work on this.

Thanks everyone for your continued hard work and Haykuro, you're still the man!
[G1 Android Development] MosquitoD4K:
-JFv1.43 RC9 firmware (just did this one update, not the radio update)

-1 GB micro SD which was deliverd with the phone

-Google's Developers Edition

-rooted

-sim ulocked

-almost fully loaded about 80 % battery

-everything went fine, the update went fine, restarting, and then no response and always and always the same android screen,

now im trying to crash it by low battery, not by just take the battery out, maybe this'll work (but I dont think so)

don't know anything else
[G1 Android Development] sir*mez:
Partioned Fat32/EXT2 1GB SDcard from t-mobile

Flashed RC29 via Bootloader .NBH file

Rooted with RC29

Updated to RC33

Flashed Hard SPL

Flashed JF v1.5 ADP Lucid MOD - did APPs2SD and Dalvik2SD

Flash 2.22.19.26I Radio

Flashed Grafitti Citrus Theme JFv1.50 Beta

Flashed H Special SPL with battery at 89% - saw it update, rebooted on its own, saw the chip with the arrow on it and it rebooted. once after that it hanged. I waited 5 minutes and then took the battery out. Got my sdcard reader, renamed the jf v1.5 to update to reflash like instructed. powered the phone with home+power and got nothing but a hang on t-mobile G1 screen.

Both phones were done the same. One phone bricked and one phone flashed the SPL.
[G1 Android Development] ivanmmj:
I wonder if the Dream responds to goldcards like other HTC phones do...

That's how we fixed our Heralds, which is how the Elf's got their fix, etc.
[G1 Android Development] d474rpr:
Goldcard as in a specialized SIM?
[G1 Android Development] UnkzDomain:
Goldcards as in a specialized SD card
[G1 Android Development] ivanmmj:
You convert a SD card into a Goldcard and the phone will read it and allow the phone to flash ANY NBH file, regardless of CID, etc etc.
[G1 Android Development] sblmnl:
This has happened to me many times when I didn't wipe (the PHONE :) ). Take the battery out, place back in and hold Home + Power to get into menu. Type alt + w to wipe, afterwards, alt + s to apply update.zip from sdcard, then Home+Back to restart. The first time loading, it can take up to ten minutes to get past the Android screen (mine took 7-10 minutes), so be patient.

Post back with any results.
[G1 Android Development] sir*mez:
that wont work i just read the write up. In order for the goldcard to work, the g1 has to go into fastboot, which none of our devices can go into fastboot nor recovery. I even formatted a sdcard to start the process but when i got to the fastboot i was so disappointed.
[G1 Android Development] satru:
One detail, when i flashed the new spl I was doing something else and when i check my phone it back to recovery utility windows itself ,it was in 15 20 minute, after that i reinstalle jf1.5 and all worked ok

what this means. if you are flashing your phone and before these process finishes your take out you battery, you can bricking you phone. take patience and wait.

Good luck

ps:i change the final text for sir*mez
[G1 Android Development] satru:
hey sir*mes was no my intentions blaming to anyone , i only want to say that all need to give more time to flash before take out the battery. only that.

i will do something for you , i will change the text, happy?

Good luck
[G1 Android Development] neoobs:
So what harm would it do to try? From what I remember the goldcard on herald was supposed to get us into the bootloader even when we couldn't normally.
[G1 Android Development] d474rpr:
Let me be perfectly clear, those of us with the issue of a bricked device from loading the SPL from Haykuro are experiencing an actual case of being bricked.

Read carefully.

The phone WILL NOT turn on!!!!

We are looking for a solution that runs as far back as actually burning the SPL image directly to the phone's memory. I am even willing to try a hardware to hardware method to accomplish this.

I know the phone is still somewhat responsive because my laptop detects the USB connection to the phone but it will not recognize the device.. obviously because the communication is broken since the phone is dead. The power LED will turn on but only after I remove the battery first. Once I press the POWER key the LED turns off and will not light again until I remove and replace the battery.

Solutions that we are trying:

GoldCard method.

Looks like a couple of us have tried this but since fastboot can't see the device then we can't use this method unless someone knows something super seceret.

Crashing the device by allowing the battery to fully discharge. Unlikely but trying anyway.

Any other ideas?????

Thanks everyone for helping thus far!
[G1 Android Development] d474rpr:
I tried it and so far no luck...
[G1 Android Development] sir*mez:
ok but the phone wont go into bootloader. which is what im trying to get it to do. if i get it to bootloader i know i can fix it. even if it went to the recovery i could fix it. but I get nothing.

in order to create a goldcard for the dream it has to read the sdcard off fastboot which i cant get into.
[G1 Android Development] neoobs:
Are you saying your screen doesn't turn on?
[G1 Android Development] d474rpr:
No, I'm saying it doesn't turn on. :)
[G1 Android Development] ivanmmj:
The same happens on Heralds when the imgfs is messed up. To fix it, we force it to go into the bootloader mode and it does turn on. I wonder if it's something similar.
[G1 Android Development] theslam08:
I meantioned in the big main topic an idea though I dont think anyone saw it.

In the past for other phones I was able to make recoveries using the computer while it was in the boot loop.

Anyone with the brick, try to see what happens when you do this:

adb remount

After the "T-Mobile G1" screen shows up. See if it says mount sucessful. I would try though it does not stay on the screen too long for me, not only that it might work for me just because it continues fine so its inconclusive.

If you get lucky and it says remount successful, you could try this:

adb shell recovery

I am not sure of the commands to follow from there, but it might allow you to flash a different update.zip file from the command line. If you get lucky like that, look up the commands and see how that might go. There has to be a way to communicate to the hardware when that screen comes up. Its good that that screen comes up, because it means its not 'fried' so to speak, it just has a misconfigured loader which doesnt have the correct set of instructions (good point about the different types of boards, thats most likely the issue) for THAT board. I would go back to the one that worked previously.
[G1 Android Development] neoobs:
Have those of you with the Android Dev Phone tried contacting someone at google on how to fix your phone? You would think they would help developers and possibly give them info or software to help fix the phones.
[G1 Android Development] djboo:
unfortuantly i purchased mine from ebay - tmob are being less than friendly about it. any hints? im kinda in a panic.
[G1 Android Development] imnothimm:
Then its pay 150 to Htc ....

At this moment that's all you can do seeing there is no fix for the spl brick
[G1 Android Development] R3nrut:
Developers wouldn't have the need to reflash their device's SPL for the hell of it, hence, they have no support for this type of issue. This would require an engineering level hardware architect to give us the support needed.
[G1 Android Development] neoobs:
Then why did so many developers flash the new SPL? The SPL is part of the android project so of course you have the need to flash it. In fact I think most developers do things for the hell of it. I know I do.
[G1 Android Development] Deuces:
Bricked It

You won't recognize my name as i've been quietly gathering knowledge and trolling for a couple months now. My expertise is software administration, basically everything except actual development.

Ive officially bricked my G1.

From the beginning of browsing these forums:

I successfully rooted, used apps2sd, and have played with just about every flavor of ROM (JF / Haykuro-Hero / Rogers Cyro-whaterver were favorites)

I got rid of apps2sd and had since have been having root access issues.

I downgraded to rc29 to re-root and flashed the old SPL , didnt touch radio.

I now know this to be a big no no and a near-guaranteed brick.

Hasnt come back from the Tmobile G1 first-screen since, won't boot into recovery or bootloader mode. Have let it sit for over an hour at the screen more than once. Have recovered "seemingly bricked" multiple times before by wiping/reflashing, but this one wont get past first splash.

My G1 did survive being in a lake for about 3 minutes, was still powered on when i got it out, and air-compressor-dried it, almost seemed to work better after. Am almost considering trying this again :P

Anyone have ideas?
[G1 Android Development] dwright48:
bricked g1

if it all fails: turn off the phone, power+ camera buttons at the same time. hotboot and when it ask you if you want to update hit the menu button. it will revert it back to stock phone
[G1 Android Development] ivanmmj:
hmm.... I wonder....

Would this be compatible with these HTC phones?

http://vivien.chappelier.free.fr/typhoon/install.html

If so, I wonder if we can use it to boot a recovery console?
[G1 Android Development] njuncos:
LOL, God I wish simply for all these bricked users out there that this would do the trick...however, if you have read this forum at all, you will quickly notice that Camera+Power and Home+Power don't do didily squat for these bricked devices!
[G1 Android Development] RueTheDay:
From the Home section of that link:

It sounds like it needs a functioning SPL to work.
[G1 Android Development] ivanmmj:
I forget, did the Goldcard not do ANYTHING?

Can we get to the SPL screen at all? Even if it refuses to flash?
[G1 Android Development] Drizzy Drake Rogers:
If your phone turns on, gets stuck at the tmobile G1 screen, gets stucks at the splash I do not consider that being a brick...simply just turn your phone off get a usb sd card reader place the RC.29 image in the root of your sd and boot into fastboot and then downgrade it.

to me a brick would be that your phone does not turn on,doesnt boot into recovery, or it doesnt boot into fastboot...now that to me is a brick and not fixable Y? IDK

But that is a BRICK a complete device that doesn't do anything, if your phone turns on then your only stuck on WET SOIL which you can get out of!

well hope this helps some one to understand that their phone still works if it boots up!;)

and if it doesnt boot well your s#!t out of luck!
[G1 Android Development] Drizzy Drake Rogers:
goldcards do not work for the g1! from my understanding!
[G1 Android Development] RueTheDay:
The truly bricked ones will not get to the SPL screen with Camera + Power.

However, now that I think about this, the phone is displaying Splash1, so the bootloader can't be totally inactive. Depending on where the bootloader is failing, trying to boot with a goldcard MIGHT work.
[G1 Android Development] RueTheDay:
QMAT can generate a goldcard for the G1. Whether it will un-brick a true brick is a long shot and depends on how/where the old radio is corrupting the SPL. It's worth a shot for any of the guys with bricks though.
[G1 Android Development] lbf:
Sorry, but what is a Goldcard? How it works ?
[G1 Android Development] R3nrut:
I walked someone through using a goldcard when this first happened and it did not seem to work. I didn't get to do it first hand since mine is properly bricked.
[G1 Android Development] lbf:
R3nrut, take a look on this goldcard thing, its better than the microwave way :p
[G1 Android Development] Deuces:
so whats this gold card...
[G1 Android Development] Deuces:
talked to tmobile, they're willing to send me a new g1 if i sign another 2 year contract, im only 1 year into my current 2 year contract... grr..
[G1 Android Development] R3nrut:
The microwave solution scares me deeply
[G1 Android Development] Deuces:
BTW - I had ION2 right before root access issues where i attempted to downgrade spl before radio and bricked.
[G1 Android Development] Ignatz Mouse:
Help!

I was running Cyanogenized Rogers Rom V3.3 for the last several days (I had applied the SPL and Radoi recommended) and today my phone spontenously bricked itself (this is days after running).

Any ideas how I should recover?
[G1 Android Development] profchaos:
what's the microwave solution?
[G1 Android Development] neoobs:
If you have to ask I don't think we should tell you on fear that you might actually do it and sue us LOL
[G1 Android Development] taylorb1:
I had the same situation with JF 1.5 Build 5.... 1 great week, then... paperweight...

I have not, nor heard of any solutions for it... :(
[G1 Android Development] R3nrut:
I'll give you a brief idea of what the microwave solution is, however, if anyone does it... that's completely your deal. I have no responsibility for any crazy unorthodox attempts to destroy your own phone.

So the MSM7201a chip sets on the board using what's called a BPA (ball pin array). This type of chip is set into a board and fused with solder using a soldering oven. The basic idea of the microwave solution is to heat the main board to the given heat requirement to melt the solder and remove the chip. This would give us a visible layout of the pins and where connection points are for the JTAG interface. I haven't mustered up the b@lls to give this a try yet.

If I do, I promise to keep a video record of the "experiments".
[G1 Android Development] plazmagog:
Warranty...

For those of us that bought the Dev phone:

Brightstar will replace your bricked phone under warranty, just make no mention of SPLs.

Don't bother calling them, they will just have you send email.

Be nice to Rina.
[G1 Android Development] R3nrut:
I killed my warranty a long time ago by puncturing that VOID seal over the t6 screw. Nevertheless, could you pm me the contact info to see if anything can be done?
[G1 Android Development] funbacon:
I buy a devphone from a reseller. Can you send me the address of Brightstar ?
[G1 Android Development] imnothimm:
Good times

Come to think of it I'm not even sure why my phone bricked...

I had a compatible board, the latest Radio and I was able to run Ion with the new SPL

It was only after Flashing from ION to the Dudes1.2(had apps2sd problem) to Dudes1.1.... unless Dudes 1.1 installs the old radio my phone shouldn't have bricked right?

How odd, I never really gave it much thought...
[G1 Android Development] funbacon:
Just open update.zip and look for radio file :D. I did not read about new SPL + update old radio and my phone was bricked. Someone said that we can send our devphone to care service for a replacement :D
[G1 Android Development] stuff:
I bricked my poor fellah.

I wanted to update to Super Hero v2, and I needed to flash the new SPL.

Of course, it didn't say "YOU NEED THE NEWEST RADIO AND SPL. NEWEST RADIO FIRST"

so.. I tried to flash the newer SPL with the older radio, and I put my lil bugger in a coma.

Hopefully somehow, someone can make a fix for this soon. I'm back to using my iphone, with a damaged speaker
[G1 Android Development] R3nrut:
goldcard failed

I tried the goldcard method with no success. I didn't think it would do anything but I'd tried anyway.

http://r3nrut.com/goldcard/goldcard.img

That's the file I used to make my SD card a "goldcard" in case anyone wanted to analyze it.
[G1 Android Development] fastludeh22:
What is the gold card supposed to do, bring u back stock in "bricked" situations? Zip the file and upload it. Ill test it on my non bricked phone as a control so to speak. At least we will know if gold cards should work at all on a g1...
[G1 Android Development] neoobs:
Goldcards are supposed to bypass the SPL check. Basically instead of installing the engineering SPL or HardSPL you can use the nbh files on the standard SPL even if it isn't signed or for your phone.

However there is another MFG card that allows diagnostics, but I haven't seen it.

And the link above about running linux on HTC devices, it seems that it uses the goldcard to boot directly off the sd card... this might be your solution.
[G1 Android Development] stuff:
Just curious, how close are we to using JTAG software to fix bricked devices?

On a percentage scale
[G1 Android Development] lbf:
But if the system dont boot correctly, the usb and sd slot dont works :)
[G1 Android Development] plazmagog:
rma stuff

Brightstar contact info for warranty:

Android@brightstarcorp.com

Person that checks it is Rina.

My phone fried for *cough* unknown reasons. They had a new dev phone in my hands 10 days later.
[G1 Android Development] neoobs:
Ummm, it boots if you see a G1 screen.
[G1 Android Development] sdrewh:
Any ideas?

Ok... I got one for you see if you have heard anything like this. I had a white g1. I updated the radio then went to jf 1.5. When an update shown on jf updater I grabbed it and stupid me flashed the radio again. Then after that it started cutting off on its own and got worse and worse until now nothing. It wont cut on wont charge anything. Has anyone see this? I ended up buying a new black g1 but I wouldn't mind having it back to play around with. Any thoughts would be sweet. Thanks
[G1 Android Development] R3nrut:
[QUOTE=plazmagog;3983946]Brightstar contact info for warranty:

Android@brightstarcorp.com

Person that checks it is Rina.

My phone fried for *cough* unknown reasons. They had a new dev phone in my hands 10 days later.[/QUOTE]

what info did they require from you?
[G1 Android Development] lbcoder:
If anybody is interested at all, this procedure will DEFINITELY NOT WORK. The microwaves will make the board traces and internal chip traces EXPLODE, rendering the whole thing complete garbage.

If you want to pop off the CPU, better idea is to use a heat gun.
[G1 Android Development] lbcoder:
And the right way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKkOzgfX4JM

Might need one of these: http://www.torch.cc/en/product/BGA1200.html
[G1 Android Development] ei8htohms:
did any of you see this on Android Community?

Seems unlikely that the guy is for real, but you never know...

http://androidcommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?p=210202&posted=1#post210202
[G1 Android Development] nicholasbithell:
Jtag

Try J-tag connectors its the way I fixed mine. I have tried to Rip the software but Can't sorry.
[G1 Android Development] R3nrut:
Whoa whoa whoa... You FIXED a bricked G1 with a JTAG cable???? WHERE ARE THE CONNECTION POINTS!!!!!
[G1 Android Development] R3nrut:
Dude, I have the software and the hardware, if you're for real please please tell us where the connection points are on the devices main board!!!!
[G1 Android Development] lbf:
Thats probably fake... :rolleyes:
[G1 Android Development] R3nrut:
No worries friend. I have absolutely no intentions on microwaving my device. :)
[G1 Android Development] R3nrut:
I agree...
[G1 Android Development] bertrandno7:
help!!!!

so is there any solution to fix a bricked htc g1 :(
[G1 Android Development] garsim:
now only assistence/warranty.
[G1 Android Development] R3nrut:
well some smart guy has been posting on forums that he fixed his via a JTAG solution but refuses to shed any light on where those contact points are on the device. so as of right now we are without an answer, however, so close that victory can be tasted!
[G1 Android Development] stuff:
Using the JTAG solution would mean actually opening up the phone and tinkering with it, no?

I am awaiting the day that the solution arises. I am stuck with my iPhone 3g :(
[G1 Android Development] bertrandno7:
okay but my phone is out of warranty

okay but my phone is out of warranty! i flashed to the htc g1 firmware now when i power on the phone theres the htc tmobile g1 logo there and it just gets stuck there. i am out of warranty cause i live in singapore and my phone is not under tmobile but singtel! so wat can i do!
[G1 Android Development] sebas1102:
Tough luck... an hardware replacement will cost 300 usd...
[G1 Android Development] R3nrut:
So turns out my phone is still under warranty and is being replaced... which means I'm not going to be able to experiment any further with my device. If I can come across a bricked or cracked screen device in my area I will continue to try to figure out this solution. Otherwise I can offer support to anyone willing to pick up were I have to leave off...:cool:
[G1 Android Development] stuff:
Damn. =[

I guess this means mine is toast
[G1 Android Development] scholbert:
Numbering of testpoints ???

Hi,

just stumbled over this thread and had a short view at the last posts :D

I realized that you discussed the hot airgun method to desolder MSM7201A and trace the JTAG testpoints.

As far as i know HTC put some epoxy glue around the main parts on Dream PCB.

Due to this fact, it is a little more complicated to get these chips off without damaging some of the traces on the PCB.

If anyone should try, be very careful and give a lot of heat to the board!

On the other hand R3nrut has already picked up some very useful files out of "www" space.

Had a quick glimpse and i wonder if there's a document about Dream PCB, where the numbering of testpoints is listed.

To get access, someone has to find out testpoint locations of the following numbers:

FTP7 -> CPU_JTAG_TDO

FTP3 -> CPU_JTAG_TDI

FTP6 -> CPU_JTAG_TMS

FTP2 -> CPU_JTAG_TCK

FTP27 -> V_MSMP_2V6

FTP28 -> PS_HOLD_0

LTP8 -> BOOT_MODE_2

At least these are the most wanted, i suppose.

Perhaps there's someone out there who may give answers :p

Very nice project, keep on your good work!

Best regards,

scholbert
[G1 Android Development] muttley06:
Hello i had the "danger" spl running with one of the new roger roms running on it. went to bed on the phone and i woke this morning and it was in a boot loop so i tried reflashing the rom. but couldnt kept getting a can no open recovery error.

Then got to reading fixes and found one that said to flash JF rom so i did and i think it istalled a lower radio which caused it to brick? no home+power or camara + power al gos to black g1 screen? any ideas any help would be great.
[G1 Android Development] lbf:
Moderator, sticky this post please ;)
[G1 Android Development] bertrandno7:
yes i agree really hope that theres a solution for bricked htc g1! i own one too! :( my phone is with htc service center for 3 weeks now they are trying to find some way to fix it for like close to a month alr....
[G1 Android Development] R3nrut:
Odd, most who have sent their device to the service center just get the main board replaced. Did you have yours 100% bricked or were you still able to get the main boot screen to come up?
[G1 Android Development] Cuore_alfa:
Bricked my phone updating the infamous SPL, suscribed to this thread!
[G1 Android Development] dopee:
Same here. First installed newest radio (26I)...

Got a PVT DREA110
[G1 Android Development] bertrandno7:
help me!

i am still able to get to the main boot screen but i live in singapore you see and when i turn on the phone there is the t mobile logo... so they know i did some software modifications :(