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[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Incarniac:
Battery?

I'm not so sure faster necessarily means using more power. It is possible to make software faster and less power hungry.

Coming from the stock HTC Touch Pro ROM that shipped with the phone to EnergyROM 3.0 53009 then 60109 with 1.14.25.05 radio, I think the battery lasts roughly as long as it used to on the stock ROM. I don't have any hard numbers to back this up, as my usage pattern is a bit erratic at times, but that's the feeling I get - I don't really charge more or less often than I used to (at least not noticeably so in either direction).

What I did experience for a bit on 53009 was a 'sticky' battery meter, where it would stay on the same level for a while then suddenly drop quite noticeably. This has since improved, but even so, the actual usage time without having to charge was roughly as before, just the meter characteristics seems to have changed slightly.

So for me this ROM is snappier and more responsive than the stock ROM was, with battery lasting roughly the same amount of time, which for me is a good improvement. Oh, and I like the look of it. Great work NRG.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] AndyJ91:
The thing is, whenever I compare this to my previous phones regarding the battery, the Touch Pro always is terrible. But then I remember that in my previous phones, there wasn't much to do, so except for talking, I didn't do anything..and they would last for 4-5 days..

Well, doing nothing on the Touch Pro, it's been 75 HOURS already, and still has juice in it. And I'm gonna leave it alone for one more day, to reach the 100 hour mark.

How many of you were playing around with older phones, at least half as much as with the TP?... Of course it only lasts one day if you're wi-fi-ing, or just sliding your finger left to right just to see the cool TouchFLO in action. :P The battery is quite normal and up to par with all the other phones out there.. It's just that the phone is cool enough to make you wanna play with it non-stop.

It's like a fancy sports car. Drive it like you would a normal ordinary car and it will consume just as much. But can you resist it? :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hmota78:
I agree, plus you have to account for the vga screen having 4 times the number of pixels of the qvga screen:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] supersobbie:
missing in menu

Howdy all... :) NRG another great rom... I dont really see the battery issues that people are talking about but maybe it is the stuff that I run or turn off that create them.

anyway, is there anyone that can zip up "/windows/Start Menu" for me? I accidentally deleted my system and utilities folders and would like to have them back without reflashing...

Thanks in advance.

SoBBie

Oh, and one thing I did notice was GetSportz live baseball feeds now seem to be a little off. It must be from the new video drivers since it worked in the earlier builds. Just thought I would bring that up as well.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] :
I agree. I've tried other ROMs as well, and battery life seems about the same on all of them, after I get my backlight settings the way I like, etc.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] lightning5791:
*sigh* You are so right.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] patcat007:
NRG ROM 20090601 and Radio 1.14.25.35

After flashing the new NRG ROM & New Radio, I followed the advice of everybody out here and let my battery drain out to 1% post which the device switches off anyways. It took about 2.2.5 hrs for the phone to recharge completely to 100 %. The phone was idle for 3 hrs off the ac charger the battery icon still showed 100%. Then I sent out and recd three sms post which the battery was down to 97%. Post leaving the phone overnight I woke up to the battery at 91%. Was very happy that it had drained only 9% in 9 hrs.

Then After 7 min of talk time and sending and receiving 7-8 sms the battery was down to 72%. Post this after the GPS was on for about 2.5 hrs and another 5 min of talk time the battery was down to 1% again.

I am In India does this warrant changing to another Radio 1.14.25.05 coz on the 1.11 and 1.12 i dont get any GPS fix

What do you guys say?? any expert advice. Or is this a good battery time I got above??.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] finsmaniac02:
Yes, I am also having the problem of TF3D taking over from the 6.5 lock screen. It's a real shame, I hear this new dialer doesn't interfere with the lock screen so I was lookiing forward to using it, AND the autolock option in Touch Pro Tweak seems to work also (could not get my old kaiser to lock automatically when turning screen off; so was happy this could).

Alas, still not being able to take advantage of the new lock screen which is one of 6.5's nicer features...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] alex_time:
I also had battery drain problem until 2009/6/4 version. I have not flashed yet the latest 2009/6/5 but what I can say is that after months of battery drain problem, I had my phone with me from saturday morning 9 am, to monday afternoon 3pm without charging! BT on, 3G on, Data on, airplane mode on during the night. It would be very interesting to know what has made the difference between 2009/6/4 and ALL the past rom. The core?!

The way I flash is always the same, sd and sim off, battery more than 50%, hard reset after flashing on the "Tap here.." screen, sd in after the "Tap here..." screen after the hard reset to use UC. And this time, my battery really works!

And I can say more, this time, I set the Internet connection alwasy on through reg "HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\*7C4B7A38-*\Connections\*\AlwaysOn" otherwise iskoot message system does not work very well, and I did not disabled the ActiveSync KeepAlive feature suggested by a user some pages ago.

Now, with 2009/6/4 I leave my TP alone on the Desk at 78%, and after 1 hour it still has 78%, I check something, leave it alone some time and when I take it again it still have 78%, that's great! A little problem is that if I soft reset it, after the reset I have lost 8% of battery, maybe the battery meter is not 100% correct, but my phone has been with me for almost three days without charging it! Thanks NRGZ! This rom make the difference!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] DavidDodd:
Great job.

Installed over the weekend and this is the best. My 50 year old eyes have no problem viewing, very clear and operation is sooo easy.

Thanks much:):):)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] krook6023:
If I am getting frustrated only reading about battery drain…I can only imagine how the master chef NRG feels.:eek:

Bottom line; if you are experiencing battery drain (which by the way is very subjective) please make sure you are using a good radio with matching rilphone. I am using 1.14.25.35 and like most people I am satisfied with the battery usage. Please read and follow other recommendations provided in this thread and refrain from posting the same issue over and over again. This thread has almost been hijacked by the “battery drain debate”. One thing is clear some people subjectively say battery usage is fine and others subjectively say battery usage is horrible.

Let’s just agree that no matter what some people will not be satisfied with the battery usage and move on…The battery issue (or lack there of) has been reported…until NRG makes a “magic bullet” cab to satisfy everyone…lets just put it to bed.

NRG—keep up the good work…I would use your ROMS if I had to charge the battery 24/7…they are just that good.

Peace to my nine.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] BigBadger:
MSVC issues

Anyone experiencing MSVC issues should check out:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=434977
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] BigBadger:
Even with fairly heavy usage, less than a day on a charge is not typical.

Advice? Yeah. Read the previous 'battery' posts and follow the advice.

Is all this on a single/first charge after flashing? If so it has been suggested (many times) to wait out a few cycles before you start worrying about this.

You all know the phone itself has circuitry that handles the battery monitoring and such, right? It isn't just the OS.

And in case you have not noticed, this is not the only ROM for which people have noted wonky battery issues on occasion.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kwill:
found the problem. it was gfxboost. so, i guess that means no use of that anymore until its update:D i wonder if its the newer video drivers from 5.11 release? or were they even newer?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] AndyJ91:
There's your "problem". :) GPS really uses a lot of battery, 2.5 hours is actually good.

Battery meter can sometimes hang.. I've had 33% all day, but if I restart, it will probably show 20-25%.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mindfrost82:
NRGZ28 - With all of the other WM6.5 builds I've run, there has always been a delay when you turn on the screen before you can slide to unlock it with the builtin lockscreen.

I'm using your 3.0 0601 build and there is no delay at all. I was wondering what you did to fix this problem. Is it a simple registry fix, or was there more to it?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] civicvx94:
does anyone know if the lockscreen more stable now tith the new tachi dialer??
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Fuze1969A:
NRG 3 TF3D Internet Browser

I thought I could delete NRG’s Opera 9.5 browser and replace it with the new Opera 9.7 on the Internet tab, and it turns out it is not that easy. I went into remove programs and deleted the old Opera and then installed 9.7. I cannot link 9.7 to the TF3D Internet Tab. I looked in the registry but could not find a setting to link the new Opera on the Internet tab. Does anyone know how to link the update Opera on the Internet tab on the NRG 3 ROM?

Thanks:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] BigBadger:
Battery FAQ

Here are some notes regarding battery issues. Enjoy! :D

There is nothing special about this ROM to make it use more power than other ROMs except that it is tweaked for performance over battery life.

Make you you follow all of the flashing instructions to the letter. Especially the part about hard reset.

Backlight is set to high. You might want to change that.

3G is on by default. Recommendation is to turn it off when you are not surfing the internet.

If your radio does not match your rilphone.dll you can get crazy bad battery drainage. Make sure they match. There is a separate thread for that.

Check to see that some application is not still running in the background. Check, do not assume.

Check to see if the screen is still on when you expect it to be off. Soft reset can fix that issue.

Some radios work better with some carriiers and locations. Asking everyone to tell you what radio to use may not give you the best answer. Be specific about your situation.

The battery metter will not settle down and give accurate readings for a few battery cycles.

For the first few batttery charging cycles, try to charge with phone off and then allow battery to get down as low as possible before recharging.

The GPS sucks the battery dry. If you want to keep track of yourself, consider something like GPSToday that only wakes up the GPS once in a while.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] drtolson:
There was, at one point, a Manila/TF3D configuration application where you could set up the link to another browser. I'm not sure where it is located, but if you search in the Raphael Software thread (or the DEV and HACKS thread, where the TF3D2 porting is happening), you should find something there.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] finsmaniac02:
Is anyone else getting a "SSMaHo autorun could not start" error on the 6/05 rom? (I forget if that is exactly what it says or not). I just say OK and move on... dunno what it effects. I think it is some Manilla loader? Just wondered if I am alone here...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] JakeRam:
Magical bad PINs being entered and reseting my phone

Extreme noob here (so noob'ish i even posted this in the wrong forum once already...), new to the Fuze and the ROM thing. I love this phone (had a Tilt prior) and ROM over stock and have tried NATFs which seems efficient, but doesn't have the stuff this one does. I have only one other comment and one question. The comment is, and I know this has been covered from top to bottom and I'm going to try the given suggestions for improving it, but my battery life is crazy short, I can't even get through one 12 hour day at nearly all just standby, but I'd been warned, I'm not complaining, just noting it here for the record...

The question is -- my company requires an Activesync policy which enforces a PIN and when I turn on my phone from idle it more often than not has a number on the slide-to-unlock which I figured out is a bad PIN attempt and twice it's actually gotten to the 10th and deadly one which hardware resets and wipes the phone. I thought for a while it was the slide-to-lock itself, so was going to ask how to disable that, but then thought that may not be the real problem, maybe something else is "entering PINs". So, is there anything else that could be entering bad PINs without anything actually touching the phone? I swear it's just sitting there on my desk charging and the wierd thing is I get the same issue when plugged it into a wall or into the PC (not sure if I let it just sit not plugged into anything...) Should I try disabling the slide-to-unlock? If so how? I don't really need it since I've got the PIN pad lock anyway I'm thinking...

I really want to keep this ROM, but if it's going to hardware reset frequently and at will, I obviously can't, so any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] p_razzi:
Isn't that a prompt to show the number of calls missed, emails waiting, etc? You could confirm by locking the device and then entering the wrong number.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] falcon72:
I install the V1D bersion of manila and still have problem viewing the last row of May and August in calendar for manila. Did anyone have the fix for it? Thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] overjjrk:
Everyone with battery issues read this -> Clicky
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hobojester:
I can't offer a solution, exactly, to your problem, maybe just a work around. Here's a program I use which pretty much defeats the require pin crap: http://journal.zenyee.com/2008/10/19/stay-unlock-goes-20-after-two-years/ If you install it before you setup your activesync, soft reset, then make sure it's running, then setup your sync, it'll actually completely do away with setting up a pin (even though your server thinks it has :)). I love it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Kraize:
I already replied to you in a PM, but for others, don't remove the bottom curtain. My cab has a transparent bottom curtain. I have no idea why that icon likes to pop up :| it's no where in my cab and for me, that was a problem for the calendar tab and it appeared behind it. Most likely you will not have to install the original slider unless you want to make it look like mine which has the icon show up when it's on the tab, if you don't want any icons at all, then you would have to just uninstall my cab, and then put back your bottom curtain, and reset, then install my cab and reset again.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] brain3112:
I have this problem as well. Is there a way to fix it?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hefman:
I'm running 0601 and installed Tachi via cab, along with the other Rhodium fixes. I found that the new manila loader and world clock fix cab is what broke the lock screen. I uninstalled for now, since I don't really need the clock fix anyway (I link the clock to GAlarm). I realize you probably can't uninstall it if you're running 0605, but you might be able to manually copy over the old manila loader files (with the popup SIP).
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] edusanfer:
Video call

Hello guys, am i the only one who cant make video calls?

10x

Great stuff NRG
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Pilaf:
Can anyone active the wm6.5 original menu with the nrg's theme?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hobojester:
Remove "Program Buttons"

I'm trying to find a way to either make available, or remove a few of the "Program Buttons" (Start -> Settings -> Personal -> Buttons). I want to make more use out of the PTT button, and also make kwikemap work for the keyboard Calendar and Contacts buttons. I didn't think about using the PTT button for double and triple presses via AE Button Plus until the previous build when NRG apparently accidentially forgot (temporarily) to put the PTT button back in. I had AE Button Plus map the key and it worked great. However, if I now (build 0605) set PTT Short to "<None>" I am unable to use it in AE Button Plus.

Does anyone have any suggestions? If I can figure out a way to just 'remove' the buttons from the list so the system doesn't see them, then I can use AE Button Plus to "Add a button" and it'll map the button and make it useable.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] AndyJ91:
Looks like my phone's close to going to sleep. 5% battery left, after almost 90 hours off charge.

I don't know how HTC came up with the "400 hours standby time". :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sapps:
Any word from NRG about a new update. I know he said he didnt want to overwhelm us with to many ROM updates. My phone is dazed and confused, it has never seen a ROM stay this long. I expect a pop up any day... "Flash me please...I need more flashes"

NRG, thanks so much for all your work...ROM has been running great. I feel like Joey eating thanksgiving dessert .... Graphics good, battery life gooood, Speed gooooood.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] DerekZoolander:
I'm with you man, i'm in withdrawal!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hmota78:
The Tachi phone canvas port does not support video calls...yet :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Rafiki5333:
Please add in next version

NRG, Please add some variant of Titanium Customizer in the next version. That would sure make it nice for making changes to the Start menu. The good ones I've seen are re/Start and Titanium Customizer. Either one would be a great addition.;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] imageFILE:
Playstation Emulator

I tried running the FpseCE program for a Playstation Emulator but it would not start saying "A minium of 16mb is required. Please free more memory!" I tried doing this after a fresh flash of EnergyRom. Is there anyway I can free more memory or should i just not consider the emulator with EnergyRom? I need games when I'm bored at work.. =\
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NRGZ28:
Good job finding it.. but it was hidden for a reason. It's fuuuugly... lol

I'll try to get this fixed soon :)

Thank you :)

Anybody still having the time issue with Manila... try the cab attached.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Irisht:
NGR, Love the ROM bro.. Very happy with it. I am curious if you or anyone else here knows how to change the default TF3D2 browser? I had to uninstall your opera browser to upgrade to the latest Opera mobile 9.7 and now nothing on the internet tab works. Please advise of a solution.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mattlehrer:
Alarm Clock broken under Titanium?

I just flashed from 52209 to 60509 (Standard) in hopes of getting the alarm clock to work as I nearly missed an appt. this morning.

Neither version's alarm clock worked under Titanium. The alarm clock under Manilla works just fine.

There doesn't seem to be an alarm event under sounds and notifications for the alarm clock (I can't remember if there used to be one). If I set an alarm using Titanium, the device will wake up and go to the alarm screen but then just goes back to sleep and never makes a sound nor vibrates.

I searched through the threads and saw NRG saying the alarm worked fine, and it does, just not using Titanium.

--Update

After a fresh flash with no changes, alarm didn't work.

After loading Manilla and testing alarm there and going BACK to Titanium it appears that the alarm works.

Perhaps the sound file doesn't get set until you use Manilla to set it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] atekone:
try this.. go to start, setting, clock and alarm, then click on alarm, once ur in that screen click on the bell. u'll notice that the sounds are turnd off by default. just enable the sounds and the light flash and repeat and chose the tone of ur choice.. that should work! :cool:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mattlehrer:
Excellent!, I feel like a complete retard.

Thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] atekone:
cool. no problem..
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dpcole72:
Even with the official AT&T ROM, 400 hours is just a teensy itty bitty wee bit on the liberal side... :D more like 40...

NRG's ROM does use more, albeit sporadically, but the speed improvements... on top of the unity and consistency in his design -- well worth the tradeoff. To say the very least.

Oh, the last time I made a phone call, I noticed no atypical decline in battery life compared to using the stock ROM either (the screen was in sleep mode, as usual). I think the previous poster might have a point about the taskbar icons, but even then I wouldn't advocate their removal.

It is a FANTASTIC ROM set, period.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Roflcopterrr:
does this ROM have memory leakage issues or something..? i just flashed energyROM freshly and I disabled TF3D2, and without doing ANYTHING, the amount of free ram went down around 10 mb in 5 minutes.. why?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] black_mobility:
Try this

http://www.fuzemobility.com/tip-of-the-day-connecting-browser-tab-in-opera-97/
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hiazn:
The easiest way would probably be using vjbrisk.

install the cab, copy the vjbrisk.exe into the name of the opera exe (/windows/operaL.exe) and make a link file pointing at the new opera and name it operaLlnk.lnk in the /windows dir with the new operaL.exe you just copied there (the renamed vjbrisk.exe). It'll now still run operaL.exe but the new one will just run the operaLlnk.lnk (pointing at the new opera)

=)

vjbrisk forum thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=477519&highlight=vjbrisk
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Irisht:
Thanks a ton.... did the job and now it is back up and working. :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Lledrith:
About memory, I tried with bluetooth on, and in idle mode, all night, and I lost about 9% battery, so not a lot. (I lost 30% memory with an other ROM)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tranquillo:
flashed the latest version yesterday evening: looks good, feels good - is good ;) donation will come this evening :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Irisht:
Ok, so on to the next issue. Got the Internet Tab to launch Opera 9.7... Now how do I get the "push internet" to work :confused:. When I select "add new push page" I get a blank screen and when I try to select the soft tab for all bookmarks it does nothing. I have seen that there is a cab fix for this but have not found a dl link for it. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ssceddie:
bad battery life

hi,

this rom is very nice,really. but the battery life very bad.

at the morning is it full loaded and at the evening is the battery empty.i used the test radio.

is thery a trick to get more and longer battery power?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] EazyVG:
Just wanted to inform that I personally do not have any battery life problem at all. Running my old 1.02.25.19 Radio on Touch Pro with the rillphone.dll that comes with EnergyROMs (2009/6/5)...and I never did have any such probs with any of ROMs.

BTW, I cannot find the .cab for the bluetooth icon, can someone pleae post it again, as when BT in ON, there is no icon coming up at the top.

Thanks.