yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] littlewhitedog:
Hi guys,

which dialer is used by default ?

I was using Dutty XT 3.3 until I tried Miri 6.5 v12 ROM because I wanted to tried 6.5. In the Miri ROM, the windows dialer is used, because Miri said that HTC dialer do not show when windows is locked (using the new 6.5 lockscreen). And I really prefer the HTC one.

Is it the same thing here ?

Cheers,
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jouh:
I have never felt a resistance towards flashing a ROM like this time. Everything feels SO perfect with Duttys 3.4XT, I mean Everything is customized and really NO bugs...

What should I do when I want to try out Duttys 6.5 ROM??? :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] crankshaft:
Looking good so far Throy.

Has anyone managed to remove the top curtain yet? I was using no_top_curtain.cab in previous roms (including Duttys 3.4) to remove it but when I tried it with this rom I get a nasty gray bar instead! I've used NoCurtains.cab too which removed the bottom curtain perfectly.

Cheers
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] scar88:
thanks mate i downloaded it from the website, ive assigned the vol buttons as you said it works fine, i question within aeb theres different buttons such as red and green buttons, which buttons are these?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
I also get this. Rather annoying. Haven't found an alternative yet which works though still looking :mad:. I'll post if I do!! ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] suisen:
i don't have any curtains in TF3D or Titanium, using only pureblack2 theme of the things that could affect that :/

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=506584

other TF3D stuff installed are R.G. Glass Clock and HD black Tabs
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Was just testing dialer screens there when receiving calls. If you use WM6.5 lock built into rom and have screen turned off. You are presented with the windows dialer and windows screen unlock. However if phone is not locked and screen on you are presented with ordinary lock screen and then HTC dialer

Can anyone else confirm this please?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Cheers bro, I'll test it out now
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Elim:
Yes, I used the "TF3D Theme Maker" to change the top and buttom curtain. And look here to correct the ugle programs tab afterwards.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] 2unique:
Niggles:

Reminders is the old notification (using crackwhore's notification/snooze cab)ditto alarms

Keyboard doesn't pop up when going into manilla sms send box

X doesn't change to OK with Brians 6.5 taskbar
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Oddly enough your 3rd image which shows homescreen still has top & bottom curtains displayed, however see through
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] illuzi0n:
hmmm i think ive found a new one done by same person

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=512849
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Elim:
No, first I see short the 6.5 lock screen, then (sometimes) short the 6.5 phone and then the HTC phone. When the call is not answered I see shot the 6.5 phone before the 6.5 lock screen and when I answer the 6.5 phone pops up before the screen goes black.

Yes.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sunish:
i installed no_top_curtain cab and its gone.... o issues so far there.

the only annoying thing i find with win6.5 right now (not sure abt other HD 6.5 releases)

is that when i click on the start menu to invoke , clicking on the start menu does not close it, and need to press either home key or the 'X' icon.

few months back when i tried 6.5 on my blue angel clicking on the start button/menu, closed the program menu.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] illuzi0n:
sunish can you link me to your no_top_curtain cab so i can test?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
1. Yes, you get old notification but if you press menu instead of dismiss you are presented with snooze interval options

2. keyboard pops up everytime for me. Just tried 5 times

3. Don't use this taskbar so can't comment. Use different modified Brian's taskbar but still has X. This doesn't bother me in the slightest though :p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Yes noticed this myself and passed it on to Throy so next release should have it.

Can you post your no curtain cab for me to test also
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Elim:
Yes, that is correct because I like it so.

But by fault I remove the buttom curtain and mean that it is also possible to remove the top curtain. But after a test it stays gray :-( So, also with ThemeMaker it is NOT possible.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] crankshaft:
Yeah, wouldn't mind testing that too?

Cheers
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] heartofwolf:
Yes I confirm, this is the biggest bug for me in this rom. This causes 15-20s delay before the phone rings when it's locked.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Thanks for confirming. Odd and annoying behaviour this.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Elim:
Little issue:

Sometimes, after a reset, the phone PIN dialog disappear before I can enter my PIN.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] starbase64:
Work on this Rom? I have after install a not worked start menü and settings, Hard Reset required.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Was just about to test when you posted. I'll test both see which is more stable and works best with WM6.5
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Yet to experience this though I'll keep an eye out for it. Pressing phone button should take you to this anyhow if it feels to open
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] littlewhitedog:
Thanks for the info guys. I guess I'll stay with my actual ROM until this is fixed. Anyway when you see Dutty XT series, especially the final ships...you know he's going to do something awesome with winmo 6.5 ;).

Cheers,
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] heartofwolf:
for me the only solution before it would be fixed is using Smart Lock to change the locking method to old windows one. I hope that next release will not have this bug. Does Dutty know about this one? It's not on his future change list.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] laidbackfreak:
ok first impression I have to say I think its great :D and runs so smooth

now started to tweak things a bit to my liking....

1st I've always used pimbackup for backups of calls\sms etc now thats removed anyway I can restore this data with another program ? (I will admit I havent tried yet but hopefully someone has ;) )

2nd I cant change the welcome screen unable to over-write it ?

3rd I cant change the wallpaper, and have noticed the default is a png file ? do they now all have to be this format ?

4th I've opened excel and cant see the files on my device it will only point to the sd card ?

I've not installed any customisations to the toolbars etc yet.... I'll be testing them shortly....

Cheers Dutty.. and the team keep up the good ... nope make that GREAT work.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
I've just informed him on the beta team discussion group. So he is aware now
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] heartofwolf:
great, thanks.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Elim:
Another way is the CommManager.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] crankshaft:
Search for PimBackup, I'm sure it's been posted plenty of times in the forums. I always keep a copy on my sd card so I don't have to rely on it being in the rom in the first place.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
1. You can use a number of backup software to restore pim info (contacts/sms/emails etc) uncluding Sprite Backup, SPB Backup, Resco Backup, PIM Backup & Sashimi

I haven't used all of these (resco) but can confirm the rest work

2. Welcome screen - do you mean Splash screen? This can be changed easily. You need to replace the file 'welcomehead.192.png' in windows/

3. I believe so

4. Don't experience this
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] butkol:
Still problems with G-sensor calibration

I am still unable to run the G-sensor calibration. With a clean hard reset and nothing else installed, the "bubbles" do not move and eventually the calibration faults out. The screen rotates properly, althought gyrator will not work either. Any ideas?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Elim:
Mh, this use the ugly layout of the 6.1 lock screen.

Can somebody ask Dutty to add his nicer layout or the publish it? I am a big fan from it (see attachment).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Xaddict:
As Mr Crankshaft says, PIM Backup works fine running from sd so no need to install each time I flash. It is there in the same place as the backup files. My guess is that PIM BU is needed to reload PIM BU files. They are *.pib file ext as opposed to *.pim
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] laidbackfreak:
cheers guys, I'll investigate my backups further (given I use sashimi already I'll look at that route....)

FS - yep the splash screen, when I try to copy my prefered one over I get an error :- "cannot copy - xxxxx access is denied

i've not come across that before any ideas ??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bloke:
You will need to use Total commander , or the like. :)

Bloke
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Use either of the attached file explorers (total commander or file explorer 2)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
I'll pass it on mate. In the end its whichever he prefers lol
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] shruff:
The dual dialer/lock screen bug may can be temp fixed by either not using the WM6.5 lock or disable the Rhodium dialer in registry. Since the HTC dialer uses slide to answer/ignore I dont see any need for the WM6.5 lock/slide to answer. All WM6.5 cooked ROMs containing an HTC dialer have this bug, afaik.

However, the standard WM dialer may hide contacts after this change is made and you will also lose the ability to make video calls, I accept no responsibility for any harm to your device!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] geekbuddha:
+1 for this. MS and their half assed job!

This old pin screen comes only when you connect a phone in locked state to your PC. Even then it sure would be great to get it to the nicer look.

Thx Dutty.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Please provide location in registry for rhodium dialer so others can use this. Thanx

EDIT

Thanx for adding
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nearlygod:
Wm 6.5 Startscreen

Hi, this is my first try with Wm6.5.

Can someone tell me how to get/enable the Wm Startscreen?

And how does the lock function works?

Thx for replying to that 6.5 newbie questions .-)

nearly
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] NikPraskaton:
settings- today - disable tf3d

to lock - press start button and then Lock. easy :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
If you mean Titanium you need to go to Start > Settings > Today > Items and turn off TouchFLO 3D and turn on Windows default

If you select lock it will obviously lock your phone. To unlock slide finger across to either left or right. You can use apps like HDTweak so lock is automatically turned on once phone is put into standby by pressing power off button
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] <<CodeMaster>>:
You can do this using Sashimi, by backing up PIM.vol

I am not 100% sure of how to do it, but I want to look into it tomorrow. Today was y first day of using Sashimi - learnt just for the 6.5 ROM :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] <<CodeMaster>>:
or long press of the END key :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] *justintime*:
Played arround with the 6.5 R1 ROM

I must say awesome!!!! Eveything runs smooth, can sms and very fast.

Resco explorer is responding faster than ever.

And thanks for the t9 dutch!!!! ;)

Looks like a final Rom to me.....
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] laidbackfreak:
your right there, but you can get it to run the restore for you..... (I'm still fine tuning it... )
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] citrix80:
in the 1st post, ROM feature listed '"The ability to show weather information in your appointments by checking your city location in World Map."

I dont see it. can anybody show me how to find it?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Go to weather tab and add your location. Use update utility so current weather is displayed. Now go to World clock in Home tab and set your location to default. Now if you go to Calendar tab and click on today or the next 4 days, the weather should also be displayed
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cypher2001:
Anybody know how to add opera shortcut to titanium today screen?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] deophanto:
Still can't send SMS through bloody manila. Not even after Hard-REset, changing contact phone number, so it doesn't include the international prefix (+xxx)... It's a bit boring having to get to all messages, select conversation and then reply. Be trying to fix this. Anyway, nice work Dutty, on with that!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sutt359:
Flashed to the new version of R1 and i can say ive not had any problems with the basics (so far)

Nice and fast and does what i need - Email, sms, phone and some Live Messenger and web.

Could i make a sugestion

Im a big fan of MS Live Search could we get this cooked into the rom?

http://mobile.search.live.com/client/download_manual.aspx

Cheers

Kev
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] NikPraskaton:
I would like to know it too.. I dont need internet explorer there :D Im using titanium instead of TF3D for few days to test it. Something new & fresh.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hmmhmm1222:
there is, and i have it, its wonderful, but i am not going to tell you where to find it, go search!

no just joking :) there is a thread stickied that says win 6,5 themes ect..... go there and you find everything, also its good to go to the development and hacking forum and keep an eye for win 6,5 , much good stuff out there
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Elim:
Why not searching? Then you find this :rolleyes:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Throy is trying to keep rom as bare as possible so provides add-on cabs. I don't think he'll want to add more apps to rom
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Would always recommend trying something new, keeps you up to date with whats going on.

I would also recommend to everyone to try searching instead of asking.

I notice others before me have already provided link though so no lesson learnt!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] *justintime*:
Only thing i was missing is Pimbackup and Cleanram. Hope he will include those.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Not everyone uses PIM Backup, so again I can't see him including it. Do you have them now or would you like me to provide cabs?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] NikPraskaton:
lol I use it.. scheduled backup :) fastest & simpliest way for me.. better than SPB or ActiveSync for me. If someone need it I can send it to you.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nearlygod:
Ok. Thanks, i tought that titanium and TF3d could work together somehow.

Is there any way to to have to unlockslider at the bottom?

nearly
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] astromark:
I had probs with this in the R0 version (it took agest to bring up the lock screen on waking) so installed Chobit's Smartlock. I installed it without thinking about it in R1.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] *justintime*:
No thanks I DO USE the search button :D Was the first Cab ive installed

But thanks anyway!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] paranoid2007:
Could you post your HD black Tabs cab? The one, I use, somehow produces a grey top curtain with WM 6.5. Worked perfectly on WM 6.1 before.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] suisen:
here, hope it works :D

question for experts....CLauncher launches .exe files from Titanium, could i add manila.exe to it and use it as a quick way of switching from Titanium to TF3D? i mean i did do it but then i had both Windows Default and TF3D activated in Today, so i'm not sure what that really did or is that even possible?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Glad to hear it. Hopefully others will follow suit!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
I haven't seen this working yet but I know a few others were looking at this. It sounds feasible but not something I've looked at myself. Hopefully others will be able to provide more info. Sorry mate :(

I do plan to sit down this weekend and go through a lot of the plugins (including CLauncher) in depth so may get a look at it
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] suisen:
ok, tried again, it does launch TF3D, memory in use stays about the same, all TF3D things seem to work, but in Today Windows Default (only, not TF3D and WD) is still selected and tapping Ok brings Titanium back....also cleanRAM brings Titanium back :D don't know what to think about it :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nearlygod:
SPB Wheather

SPB Weather is blue now instead of black.

???

nearly
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nearlygod:
I used HDtweak, but it does exactly what it says. It also locks when backlight goes off and it has problems after that. The backlight is not restored after tapping the screen.

Also i find the lock very sluggish. I always have to slide 2 or 3 times until it responds.

So, is there any way to use the lock screen just after pressing the ON button?

nearly
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sunish:
i think it was part of 3.4 add ons.

another thing that i'm unable to locate is rss hub.

does anyone has a cab for it?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Cheers thanks for posting but I have tried this one and for some reason it doesn't work for me. Instead I get a grey top screen. Worked fine in V3.4 and V3.5 beta, just not on R0 or R1

Thanks anyhow mate
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Djemba:
Don't think this has been posted yet. When you want to add rotation for an application you can use G-Config to add it to the rotationlist. This way no flip-it etc is required. I've tried it and it worked very nice.

Link: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=487991
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] astromark:
Couple of issues

These may have been reported already.

1. SMS in Manila or Win messaging - no way of asking for a delivery report, the option has gone

2. The SMS text input box is back to being only a couple of lines again.

3. The time on the new lock screen shows the time the device went off, not the current time! (Sometimes it corrects in a few seconds, others not.)

4. It's crashed twice in two days - totally frozen (display operating) and required a battery yank to fix.

5. Otherwise :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fwt:
SPB Wireless Monitor also ... but no big deal :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Djemba:
Damm I seem to be one of the few who still has sms issues. I can't figure it out.

Guess it's back to other ROMs untill till a fix is found :(.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ardsar:
I think you will find this is due to the windows theme that has been selected under the today options. These themes now do alot more than just changing the background.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
Please quit the "Downloading..", "Nice...." posts.

Already 4 pages in half an hour without experiences of users testing this new baby :(

First impressions are good on this new 6.5 ROM Dutty!

Few things:

- On initialization there are two notification sounds.

- Automatic soft reset without going through initialization procedure.

- Keyboard contains 5 languages (no Dutch etc. included)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] duttythroy:
I have integrated manila and wm6.5 and wont changei t but will make a slight change in R1
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] taiseer999:
Screenshots

thank you will add it my screen shots, just figured some more nice features added with manila making it more integrated with wm6.5
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] duttythroy:
YES , lot of stuff going in background,

already mention that i disabled the normal welcome in changelog.

Keyboard I will look at,

already making some nice stuff for R1
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kille9:
Why didn't you use the latest build of Winmo 6.5 - builld 21234??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] soulja85:
Can you use the new 6.1 notifications in 6.5?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] taiseer999:
How about

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Manila]

"Manila://programs.page.hidden"=dword:00000000
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] str0nz0:
brings this the function back to the startbutton?

i dont think so
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] homer285:
One immediate bug is Home button not working, think I saw a fix somewhere, fantastic so far otherwise.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] str0nz0:
Bug:

Album always thinks you are in landscape and doesnt react on gsensor.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] str0nz0:
Mine is working without problems
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] davidwxh:
Dutty u r great man!

But i have a question: Why the Radio is 1.13 not 1.14?

:D:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] duttythroy:
I forgot to add in the home buttons fix, I will upload a cab for that later, some minor stuff which i might overlook will be fixed in R1,
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] duttythroy:
ITS RADIO 1.14 still using the wrong file name sorry
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] *justintime*:
Great development Dutty......

I am still very happy with 3.4 so i will stick with this ROM before going to 6.5 and wait for R1. I assume on that ROM you can install third party apps??? Because thats important for me.

THANKS DUTTY....
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cypher2001:
Great stuff Dutty you ae my favorite chef, can't wait to try it!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] str0nz0:
Sometimes the topbar, which is black in manila and colored in the programtab, gets colored even if you are still in manila. switching to programs and back home solves it and the bar becomes black again
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kille9:
Hi dutty!

You didn't answer my Q.

In the next release (R1) are you going to have the latest build of WinMo 6.5, 21234?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] McCLoY:
Wow i will take it now haha
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] FutureCow:
In manilla when you go to settings, and press the All Settings button you go to Connection settings and not to the "all settings" (like start - settings)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClownShoes:
Can anyone whose having the sms issue tell me firstly whether the number they are texting has a country code before it (such as 0044 or +44 for the UK) and secondly, if they could explain in as much detail as possible the process leading up to the bug, ie; open manila sms tool/ Winmo sms tool, type message, etc...

The better we can narrow this down, the quicker we can find a solution or workaround.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dizzle:
I don't know if it's already been discussed here but the SMS problem affecting some users is related to Manilla 2.1.

I'm not using Dutty's ROM at the moment but when Kwbr cooked a ROM with Manilla 2.1, I had the same SMS problem with the Manilla interface as I did with Dutty's 3.4.

The steps to get it were not complicated. It just involved sending a message from the Manilla interface. This was to local numbers and not international eg 07123456789. I'm back on Manilla 2.0 and don't have any problems.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
@ Clownshoes - The following was posted in V3.4 thread