yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] pirandello:
I have waited faithfully for a long time for Android, but now I have fallen in love with Diamond2...

I am a student, and will mostly need the phone for entertainment purposes. For my use, (mostly internet, skype, taking the occational picture, watching .avi's, mp3, old school games like nes or scummvm), which one would you pick? It's important for me the the phone is fast and responsive, and that it can edit .doc files (word, openoffice, something like that). I also would love for it to have a file-organizer (something like norton commander would have been excellent), ability to run and install files from the phone directly, and the ability to download with it (torrents, etc) and if possible, stream online content. So basically a mini-computer. Which phone do you think is best for me? I do not care about calender, email (e.i outlook) integration, or anything that has to do with planing and\or actual work, in other words :)

Also:

Do you belive android will get ported to the diamond 2 in the forseeable future?

So to sum up, Should I just go for the Diamond 2 or wait a month or two for the Magic (thats the earliest it will be released here in norway)?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] alexjzim:
im not an expert at this (ive had no luck with my herald), but if you check around, there are diamond android ports.

most likely, they will be on the diamond2 if they r on the 1st one.

winmo - buisiness/planning/work

android - consumor, but can do buisiness and work

(i can say this because, like i said, i had a herald, and i have the dream)

ur choice buddy ;]
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] redrazr7791:
just want to add my opinion. I have had 4 WinMo phones in the past, currently have the Blackstone, which im trying to get rid of. Anyways, I am a "medical" student, who really doesn't use all the features that can be found on a WinMo phone. I have played with a friends G1 and was honestly amazed at how much it just "fit" with me. I know I will probably be bashed for saying this, but phones like the android (G1) and the Iphone are really what I am interested in now. They are simplistic to use, but still can outperform your normal plain old phones. For me, if the G2 Magic doesn't wow me when it hits the U.S. shores in a couple of weeks, than I will probably purchase an Unlocked Iphone. Now, you have to base your decision on what you will use the phone for, especially if you are a student. This is my opinion, but if you are really into business type stuff where you would need all the necessities of a PC than go with the Diamond. If you want a cool, visually appealing phone that isn't as powerful as the Diamond but still gets the job done! than go with the G2.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] mannyb:
I agree with redrazr's post above, but I would also like to add that for me a big part of going Android was to be part of something huge, right from the start. I mean, the first Android phone (the G1) has been out less than eight months and Android is already this good? That's pretty damn amazing. WinMo fanboys won't like this, but give Android eight months more and it will blow WinMo out of the water in every single aspect.

And no, WinMo 6.5 (and not even WinMo 7) will not revolutionize WinMo since they're still based on the same old crappy, sluggish platform/core. My understanding is that WinMo 8 will be the first WinMo based on a completely new and/or revamped core, and won't be out until 2013 or so.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] gkai:
He he, I have a D2 and I will not flame you for supporting Android (but then I am not a microsoft fanboy at all, I am typing from ubuntu right now :cool:).

The problem with the smartphones imho is that they still are differentiated using their OS, sometimes even from the carrier customization. Their are more carier network toy than than their are your own toy, while they should be judged on their design, hardware specs and support only imho. Like a PC, where you can install any OS and applications you want, and are even expected to do so.

Thanks to xda-devellopers, HTC phones are closer to what every smartphone should be: an handheld computer with a large array of network connectivity options on which the user (you, that have paid for a device that is now your own, damnit :p) can install the OS of his choice.

All that to say that Android should be installable on the TD2, and likely will be installable quite soon. Which is only the absolute minimum to be expected for an open-source OS for which google took A LOT from the opensource community to develop. Android should be installable on any device that has compatible hardware to run it, no excuses (HTC is at fault here, it should halp xda-develloper in the porting effort if not offering multiboot himself from the start, especially as all it's top-of-the-line smartphones are so close to each other hardware-wise).

So once the playfield is levelled and Android is installable on the TD2 (as it is on the HD, even if it is work in progress), I think that the TD2 and Magic should be compared from hardware and design alone. That's why I have chosen the TD2 (I like its design more, and a higher resolution screen is a big plus for me, I read a lot on my smartphone). But for other people the Magic could be better (digital compass, larger battery, more physical inputs like the trackball and additional buttons are its advantages imho)
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] mannyb:
Could not agree more. I'd pick Android over WinMo any day of the week, but let's be honest; WinMo phones have the best hardware. The few Android phones on the market definitely can't hang in that aspect. The only thing I can't stand about WinMo hardware is the resistive touchscreen they're stuck with. WinMo does not support capacitive screens as far as I know.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] bobdude5:
im going with the magic

i dont really like the look of the diamond 2 and the magics screen is bigger..and plus its going to have a 5mp camera for the US version :)..i miss android..i went from the G1 to the Touch HD to the iPhone...touch hd was the worst expierence..windows mobile was dreadful for me...iphone..i dont feel as free with it but the variety of apps is quiet appealing to me especially after you jailbreak it..and android..lacked alot in the beginning but it was awsome i just hated the fact that i have to open the damn keyboard for every little thing i needed to type and i didnt want to wait for cupcake..but magic here i come
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] bastage:
So in the last 15 or so months I have had 8 PDA's... 6 of them were WinMo, & Honestly I love WinMo for its versatility & The touchFlo interface is freeking awesome.. But.. I am using a g1 now & The only phone I am looking at other than it is the MyTouch (magic) the day T-Mo releases it (if not sooner).. The android OS has shown me to be much much more intelligently designed & Has yet to have any major issues (I have only had to soft reset the phone 2 or 3 times in the last 2 months).. The App Store is also a huge factor as well.. With free apps that actually work & improve the value of the device.. My last phone before this was a Touch Diamond (unlocked GSM) & I loved it for that beautiful High Res screen & The fact that movies on it were Absolutely Amazing.. Not to mention the small form factor.. But on the other Hand using the Cinema App downloaded for free from the android app store My movie playback looks almost as good (ie 1080i vs 1080p ish) & on a bigger screen.. Also Much less herky jerky to start & stop...

I am super excited for the Magic to come out, but if I had my choice I Would have kept my Diamond & Used Android on it & Somehoe managed to make a MicroSDHC work on it.. That would be my absolute perfect phone.. The Diamond 2 on the other hand I Think only had 1 thing over the diamond & thats the MicroSDHC slot as the increased screen size isnt in my opinion enough to be worth the increased mass.. Its like an inbetween size from the original diamond & an HD & I Dont think thats a necessarry spot to fill..

My 1 And only complaint with the G1 is the bulk & The Magic will obviously resolve that & only a Pocket test will be able to tell if it feels as small & easy to cary/use as the Diamond was..
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] macsbac:
The port for the diamond 2 will never be complete and always behind the current release of Android.

While the Diamond 2 has a higher resolution screen than the Magic the Magic is capacitive and performs much better in direct sunlight. Android will never run as well on the Diamond 2 as the magic.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] gkai:
Capacitive vs resistive is not so simple an issue: After testing the iTouch, I was all for capacitive, partly because it is more responsive to fingers, but even more because it offer a hard glass screen, much harder and durable than soft plastic resistive screen...

However, after testing the TD2 resistive screen, I must say that reactivity is almost as good as capacitive (not as good, but it is ok for me).

Durability could still be an issue, but the screen seems harder than my previous PDA, and with screen protection + flip case this is not an issue anymore.

BUT with resistive screen I have the possibility to use the stylus, which is very nice for accurate pointing (not relly needed for android, but very usefull for WM) and freehand drawing/ handwriting recognition. this may look like a gadget, but given the number of time I use my PDA as a notepad for quick drawing (abroad, when you do not speak the local language, a picture is worth a dozen words, and a thousand innacurate gesticulations ;-) ).

Capacitive do not allow the use of a stylus (except of the fat-and-soft tip variety, which I consider as completely useless, because it offer no real accuracy improvement), and, for me, this is a significant drawback. If a capacite technology evolve to allow for a pen-like stylus with pinpoint accuracy, then it would definitely burry resistive technology. Not before, especially for asian countries where the ability to draw characters is really useful.

For the direct sunlight, I agree: TD2 is not good under direct sunlight. Barely readable with high contrast large font text, but nothing more. Older PDA were better for this, and I believe you that Magic may be better too. I would be surprised if it was great, though, besides e-ink or passive LCD (reflective technologies), no screen has ever been great under direct sunlight ;-)

And for Android not running as well on the TD2 than on the Magic, yes, but the difference should be minimal: the hardware is almost the same, and Android is opensource, so the porting, once the bootloader/HARDSpl is done, should be quite straightforward...
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] CBowley:
I have owned winmo phones, played with an icrap, and now own a g1, and I will say I'd never ever go back. Android is always improving and will never stop improving. We have a few great developers that are always making this o.s. better. If you are looking for a phone for hardware, wait till one come out with Android. Otherwise get a magic. From what it seems like from your post, you'd be happier with android and the "wow" factor.
[General Questions and Answers] DoublePlus:
Hi guys,

I found out about this forum a while back, but didn't know it was only for HTC phones. I realize that now since I came for help with my Samsung Impression. What I'm wondering now is if anyone knows of any similar sites or forums that could help me out with my samsung. Sorry that I won't be a productive member of your community :)
[General Questions and Answers] orb3000:
Welcome to the forum

As you mentioned this is an HTC devices only forum

However if you look in off topic you´ll find a samsung "official" thread

Good luck,
[General Questions and Answers] -PiLoT-:
click the picure in my signature.

ill add a forum for your phone soon
[G1 Android Development] zgmf-x322a:
hi there

this was my g1's stats

Drea110 pvt 32b

Hspl10.95.3000

Cpld-4

Radio-1.22.12.29

Oct 20 2008

and then iv successfully updated the radio to

Drea110 pvt 32b

Hspl10.95.3000

Cpld-4

Radio-1.22.12.29 --> radio-2.22.19.261

Oct 20 2008

then i deleted the update file of radio from my microsd and then added the spl files into the microsd and renamed it to update

then turning on the phone with home+power and then alt+S, the yellow bar loaded half way and then restarted the phone and started looping

please help if anyone could, please, its urgent
[G1 Android Development] krazyconejo:
it should not have caused you any problems. Try wiping your phone.
[G1 Android Development] zgmf-x322a:
do u mind telling in which part i need to do a wipe?

before updating spl or do i need to do a wipe before updating the radio?
[G1 Android Development] ei8htohms:
you don't need to wipe with either one

You can flash the radio and the SPL without wiping, you just have to reflash your ROM of choice AFTER the SPL. The SPL will flash and then reboot similar to flashing a radio, and then will hang. Then you insert an SD card with an update.zip of your ROM of choice (from the same family if you plan to do this stuff without wiping), reboot in recovery mode and flash the update. This has been covered MANY, MANY times in the threads dedicated to the new SPL.
[G1 Android Development] zgmf-x322a:
after NOT updating the spl, i had no other choices but toput the latest htc rom into the microsd card and renamed it to update.zip and plug it back into the phone and started the home+power function and did a wipe (it reboots after i did the wipe) and then clicked alt+s and the it started updating

and at the end, it restarted and took a long time at the G1 logo...finally it went into HTC!!!

i think it was really a fluke....but to be honest, i think iv skipped the updating spl thingy...im wondering if there would be any problems or not....

if haykuro sees my post, i hope that he could give me some suggestions or opinion about this incident...

thanks in advance

o yeah, and thanks to the person who replied my post too

thanks alot
[G1 Android Development] robbie725:
READ this entire thread... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=517595

hope that it helps you understand...

peace
[G1 Android Development] ei8htohms:
If you loaded the latest HTC build (6.0r1) successfully, then you were successful with the SPL also. You can't load 6.0 without first loading that SPL or else your system partition simply won't be large enough for the ROM (at least that's my understanding). And yes, when I loaded Haykuro's 6.0 ROM (without wiping by the way), it took a very SCARY long time to boot up the first time, on both the splash screen and the HTC screen.
[G1 Android Development] ESKIMOn00b:
or maybe it did update and you havent checked to see????

that would be the first thing id try.... go back to bootloader and see if you have the version info for the new SPL or if its still the same as your old SPL... but honestly if you have haykuro 6.0 on your phone then it worked... or your phone would be slow as mud (if you somehow installed it without the SPL but im pretty sure it checks) since youd have like 20mb free on a fresh flash
[G1 Android Development] ESKIMOn00b:
damned dbl post
[G1 Android Development] zgmf-x322a:
hey guys, im so sorry about the fuss but i cant help without asking the professionals out here...

im really a newbie around this area....please help out if possible

------------------------------------------------------------------

when i pressed camera+power

it went into the 3 skateboarders...

the stuff shows at the top was:

Dream pvt 32b eng s-off

Hboot-1.33.2005 (drea11000)

Cpld-4

Radio-2.22.19.261

Apr 20 2009, 15:30:43

does this mean i have the latest radio and spl?

thanks all who've helped
[G1 Android Development] t1h5ta3:
Does that match what it said it shuld in the thread you got it from?

I think you answered your own question.
[G1 Android Development] ESKIMOn00b:
yes, you could have compared that info to the info in the first post of the thread about this SPL, maaaaaybe :rolleyes: since they match you flashed succesfully.... but just a thought...

SPL's arent large at all and take no time to flash.... buuuuuut its just about the only way you'll pseudo brick (not technically bricked just unfixable ATM) your phone
[G1 Android Development] ESKIMOn00b:
lol, us assholes think very simialrly
[G1 Android Development] zgmf-x322a:
thanks so much for the help guys and i know it is really a fuss to talk to newbies but i appreciate the help
[G1 Android Development] t1h5ta3:
yha, and its a fuss to try to read ANY THING? come on, this has been re hashed over and over and over in almost every thread on the first page.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] doctor29:
Hey guys,

is there anything available for hebrew support for the WM 6.5 ???

חייב להיות משהו כזה....הרי 6.5 כבר הרבה זמן פה....

Thank you
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] ameerizer:
:confused:

כידוע ונכון לרגע זה לא קיימת תמיכה

too many time am looking 4 it, yet i dont see or heared about eb support for 6.5 (its a beta):confused:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Orenk:
http://windows-mobile-6.5.handster.com/software.php?id=3714&for=Windows+Mobile+6.5

I Found this one few minutes ago...

Let me know if it is working for you...

Backup everything, in case things will go wrong, you might have to hard reset.

Have fun

Oren

** UPDATE **

After installation the HERMES won't boot... I Had to HARD RESET.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] ameerizer:
somthing new? anything?

where's the developers

Alex2003?

eyron? pdac?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] lordmoionsun:
almost compatible

I use p535 and ran a 6.5 rom on it (one of the many cooked). Leng got it stuck. If it works with your device please advertise.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] MobileJesus:
I've tried eyron and some other free stuff I've found and none of them works...

Did anyone at least managed to manually install some hebrew fonts on wM6.5?

At least to be able to view it correctly..

It's weird, I've installed some WM6.1 Chinese on my machine (Kaiser) and it had no problems working with the 6.5

Why is hebrew so special? :S
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] elish:
i found something!

I have tytn I

I install Que Rom from here version +QueROM_B4_V1_MS3_23008_For_Hermes

and than I installed 2 files for hebrew:

first: Resco.Keyboard.PRO.v5.21

second: Hebrew.CAB

and it's worked!

I can read and write hebrew!

p.s

לא מצליח להעלות כאן קבצים
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] guylich:
work on diamond

I have tried this one on energy rom (6.5) and it is working (but you will have only Hebrew fonts not keybord)

http://rapidshare.com/files/261284093/Badnimits_Hebrew_nohardkeybrd.CAB.html
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] guylich:
keybord

this is a nice working keybord(also in hebrew)

http://rapidshare.com/files/261285773/FingerKeyb-2_1_.1.1_VGA_by_Giannis86.cab.html

but you should install the Hebrew fonts before the keybord installation
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] llMariusll:
its dont work on WM 6.5 :(
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] pocker_face:
another mirror:

http://www.4shared.com/file/93234549/e12c7004/Badnimits_Hebrew_nohardkeybrd.html
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] BujinRikimaru:
THX

pocker_face the Cab is Working good :)

But is there any working Heb Keyboard?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] MOZES:
WM6.5

YOU CAN GET THE

Iconsoft PhonEx

OR THE

O3TOUCH

BUT

IM WAIT FOR THE REAL DIALER

THE STANDART FROM WM6.5 (Phone Canvas)

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2/pcssi.png

WITH HEBREW LATTERS AND SMARTDIALER
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] dxdiadora:
someone got hebrew rom or just eyron pdac something for wm 6.5 my xperia got hebrew fonts but not enough.....

פליזזזזזזז שמישהו יעזור לי בא לי מערכת הפעלה בעיברית
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Orenk:
מצאתי, וזה עובד פצצה.

I found a solution, and it works great. like a blast to the gabot.

I Installed the Hebrew support only, without changing the interface.

Now, all the gui is still in english, But I am able to read and write in hebrew.

Goodluck

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=489091
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] zivkatz:
hd2 (leo)

will the hebrew patches work on the HD2 ?

if not , have anyone found something for the HD2 ?

ziv.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] kochavy:
Can you tell me which file do I need to install, i tried some Hebrew file support but it kils my SMS alert it is make me crazy and the Opra browser is not working!!

please help
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Orenk:
I think it is should work on windows mobile 6.5, on any device..

Try and let us know.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] kochavy:
which Rom are you using?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Orenk:
windows 6.5 build 21877

Mega V27 by TAI

The rom is little slow, but it works fine for me.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cmj1975:
Hi all.

I order a TD2 with WWE ROM, but I want to use a GoldCard to flash a CHS ROM,because I am a Chinese.

So anyone tell me how to make a GoldCard for TD2?

Thanks!

PS:Sorry for my bad English.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] hkericng:
HKCSL released a CHT rom for Topaz, try to search HK ppc forums.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cmj1975:
Can I flash the CHT rom without HardSPL or GoldCard?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Kilik_WM:
奸商哥哥都跑到这里来了...放心..这次事件绝对没那么简单..

整个中国能刷d2的..不超过10家..

PS:一个地区一个CID..你英文机.不动CID,别想能刷别的语言的ROM..试着在ROM上下手脚..或者想办法弄USPL去吧..加密卡就别想了..TopazDiag.nbh不是那么容易搞到的.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] RSK01:
Maybe we should exchange phones, the phone I have is flashed with WM6.5 CHS version, wanted a WWE one.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cmj1975:
Good idea:)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cmj1975:
呵呵，你根据什么认定我就是奸商呢？

在expansys买了一台英文版的TD2，想自己刷成简体中文版的ROM，也正是因为目前刷简体中文ROM的技术掌握在少数奸商手里，才在这里求助。

PS:This is a English forum,we don't discuss by Chinese.If you have any suggestions,sent me a PM.Thanks!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] springscenery:
i am a chinese too ,waiting so long time,i am going to breakdown :(
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Kilik_WM:
我就爱说中文.怎么?XDA没规定必须说英文吧.

PS:Do not reap without sowing...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] the-equinoxe:
Please stick with English..
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] jiwei1984:
I'm Chinese too.

My d2 is CHS ROM by xda-china.

My phone buy from xda-china too.

We can flashing 老麦’s chs ROM.

My d2's SPL is 1.33.1000,This SPL can flashing 老麦’s chs ROM,if your D2's SPL is 1.33.0000,maybe you can't flashing CHS ROM by yourself.

I don't know chinese Businessman how flashing CHS ROM when the phone was not unlock CID.:eek:

Who knows where does the "SPL-1.33.1000" come from.

PS:I'm sorry for my bad English too!:p
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] yyqk2007321:
hello jiwei1984

我们在这里也碰到了，没有想到啊

这里居然还可以说中文，以前一直用英文，好累啊

制作金卡我会啊，不过谁的机器给我做小白鼠呢

if i make a GoldCard for TD2 ,so it means that you can flash another rom without hardspl?

who can tell me ?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] the-equinoxe:
In English please!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cmonex:
not a modified rom.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] snafumk2:
Translate: "I just like to speak Chinese. There ain't no rules in XDA stating that we must speak only English."

That's true, but do have some respect for others. Converse in English, please.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] jiwei1984:
We have CHS ROM,6.1 and 6.5,but somebody don't flashing this rom,because Their phone's SPL is 1.33.0000,if your phone's SPL is 1.33.1000,your can flashing (RUU) this rom.

Our problem is how flashing SPL-1.33.1000。
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cmj1975:
:mad:My TD2's SPL is 1.33.0000
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] jiwei1984:
:)Someone tell me maybe the SPL-1.33.1000 is HTC's……
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] rfnn:
I have seen the market at the same SPL is 1.33.0000 Chinese
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] jiwei1984:
Yes，some D2's SPL is 1.33.0000 when your OS is CHS！

but this SPL doesn't flashing other OS。

I think these D2 flishing ROM by goldcard……:rolleyes: