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[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I wonder if the OBEX is on by default... Do ANY ROMs do this by default WITHOUT the Bluetooth FTP installed?

Oops... I thought I fixed that bug. I'll fix it and release an update Tuesday.

One of the updated files may have accidently added this feature (or 21046 added the feature) and since I don't use my Herald anymore, I didn't test it and see it. I should be able to easily disable.

1. See above for answer.

2. Strange... I didn't change either program....

3. Hmm... You mean when you enable the battery icon that I had disabled? That might be why I didn't notice it. It's probably part of the 21046 build and my taskbar icon replacements not playing nicely together...

4. What's going on with QuickMenu... I haven't touched it so it must be something else I added.

5. JustStableMicro is super fast in general. lol

This ROM was NEVER tested. :p

hmm.... you can't prove that...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
You are so busted, fake-Ivan. Everyone here knows that the REAL Ivan would give up his holiday in USA, tell his wife to go to a movie by herself, while the real Ivan works overnight tonight to have the new release ready on Monday -- not Tuesday. Tuesday is way too late, and certainly not indicative of the REAL selfless Ivan.

I suggest you let him out of the freezer and you Fake-Ivan take a hike!

The crowd says MONDAY, MONDAY, MONDAY, MONDAY !

No rest for the weary.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
LMAO! Hmm... Good Ivan has promised his wife to not touch the phone during non-work hours. :p
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] xecutionkrk:
Ok I went to try 6.5 Justhome, and never coming back to 6.1 I guess :p
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] pseudoheld:
really liking it so far. runs real smooth i must say!

probably a noob question but how do i change the sound settings? when on normal i dont want th phone to vibrate each time i tap the screen. how do i disable that?

on a more serious note. i get an error when trying to start opera.

installed opera mobile 9.5 and it works perfectly. is there any way to deinstall the opera that comes with your rom?

thanks alot for your great efforts!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
No, Opera Mini comes pre-installed and is un-removable, just like how you can't remove Internet Explorer.

And for your other question, I'm not exactly sure, but there's some option in the Settings menu that you can change the haptic feedback settings. Idk where it exactly is, so just explore for yourself.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
The vibrate is in the settings, under system, TouchResponce Settings.

The OperaMini issue (it's not OperaMobile that I have in the ROM) has already been reported. It'll be fixed in the next release.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Well, I guess I was wrong. I think you actually can remove Opera Mini. Just go to the Java program (might be called Esmertec Jbed under an Apps folder) and then select Opera Mini, go to Menu -> Actions -> Uninstall. Tell me if that works! EDIT: Nvm, look below here.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
It removes the "shortcut" that you see within the java app but the files are still there. Anything that's in the Windows folder is unremovable.

The next version of JustStableV2 will have it working fine.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
To the original poster (not ace), isn't this all a rather moot point, since within 24 hours a new release of this ROM will correct the OperaMini problem? It was just an oversight for god's sake :)

For what it's worth, i installed an OperaMini cab, in the meantime, and it works totally fine.

And even if one's primary preference is Opera Mobile, then the choice is easy: use Ivan's JUST STABLE MICRO.

But this ROM is so lean, the smarter choice, in my opinion, is to have OperaMini installed, and add Opera Mobile as well. Then you can choose either... on a very very efficient ROM.

Now the only problem is that fake-Ivan is taking a holiday, whereas real-Ivan would be knocking this new release out today.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
I just flashed from OTP 7.7 using USPL, and I'm getting a strange occurrence. Every time the device restarts I see the OTP 7.7 intro, and then I see your HTC Intro, and the device loads normally, and appears to function perfectly fine. Any ideas why Ivan?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
I'm pretty sure I know what this is. It happened to me several times with other pairs of ROMS... There is an "optional" secondary splash screen that some ROM builders create something for, and others do not. I'm prob wrong about this but i think it even gets stored on some firmware, separate from the device drive. So, even after you flash to a new rom, which is supposed to wipe the whole device, if the ROM you are flashing TO doesn't have that optional splash screen element, whatever is in the firmware from the prior ROM that *did* have such a splash screen gets displayed.

It flipped me out too when it happened several ROMS ago flashing to a PDAviet ROM from another one. I thought the flash had gotten all screwed up, and wondered "how is this possible"? Until someone explained this secondary splash screen. It has a specific file name but I cannot remember it.

And now, with that, I hope I am correct. If not, Fake-Ivan will likely be here tomorrow to correct the record.

But what all of us will want to know is this: "WTF ??" why would you be leaving Ivan's ROM for that older ROM ? :D
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
lol... Good question... I actually originally flashed OpenTouch, then JustcHome, then GollumsM2d, then JustHome, then I decided to go back to OpenTouch, but I just decided to try JustStable v2, I think i'm going to flash Justhome v10 whenever he releases it.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] dorfl:
Vibrate device when connection is established

Hi, everyone.

One small question. Works for somebody this settings in the phone settings menu - tab Advanced the last checkable option under "Reject call with text message".

Vibrate device when connection is established

Is it meaned that the phone vibrate after ringing, when the other side answer the incoming call.

Thanks Ivan for great ROM!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] buru898:
Are you talking about S2U2? Cause I don't think that setting works for me but you should ask the developer about it.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] tlpenergizer:
Is anyone else having trouble with mms? I can't insert any pics or even recieve/send mms. Is there something im doing wrong?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
There's no version of Arcsoft included in this ROM (99.99% sure of that), which means that you can't send or recieve MMS. You would have to install your own version of Arcsoft for MMS to work. Ivan did this because it was impossible to get MMS working properly for every single person. Sorry!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] tlpenergizer:
alrighty then!...now to find arcsoft lol.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
not to mention... but keep it on the downlow... something tells me this rom is broken... i read it somewhere but cant recall.

oh yeah! the thread title! hah
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
JustStable Build 4:

Set to NOT do this by default for those who have limited text messaging accounts.

I need to know, do ANY ROMs do this by default WITHOUT the Bluetooth FTP installed?

Oops... I thought I fixed that bug. I'll fix it and release an update Tuesday.

One of the updated files may have accidently added this feature (or 21046 added the feature) and since I don't use my Herald anymore, I didn't test it and see it. I should be able to easily disable.

Fixed.

Works fine here.

This was not enabled by default, but I did fix it for those who want to have another battery icon in there. :p

Let me try it now.

OK, I'm back.

Works fine with the Jade Manila2D

hehe, you were spoiled by JustStableMicro.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Wing XPR - Built

Wing LZX - Building

Herald XPR - Queued

Herald LZX - Queued
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
In an effort to assist in using correct & consistent nomenclature for version control, I have instituted the following:

For posts by "ivan" that appear to be lazy or non-responsive to the crowd's instant needs for updates, those shall be deemed posted by "Fake-Ivan".

For posts by "ivan" that appear to be from the authenticated real Ivan, I propose that they be designated as authored by "JustIvan".

Responsive Ivan seems to be back, so thanks to JustIvan for these updates. If you are confused, please use the username JustConfused and you will be better assisted. Thank you.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
LOL, Haha. Well, it's good to have u back, JustIvan.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
All has to been uploaded. ;)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] DJLamontagneIII:
heres the one i use and worked great
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
Helpful Link to IvanTown -- where you download the new ROMs

http://justkitchen.info/JustROMs/

JustSoYouKnow ... :)

:rolleyes:

====================

ONE MORE THING for Ivan:

====================

For Branding Purposes, I think you should switch domain names to: JustIvan.com --- because it's available, for one. And .info is just too hard to remember. I think I might just buy it and redirect it to JustKitchen.info -- but the better move is for YOU to buy it. tap, tap, tap, I'm waiting. And of course I am not joking either.

Users at large: What's easier to remember, as in "bulletproof", no one could ever forget it:

JustIvan.com

or

JustKitchen.info

Are you sure you might not think it is JustKitchens.info ? or JustKitchens.net, or JustKitchen.biz ...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] v5HMeca:
Everything sounds good man. I actually just finished installing everything back with Micro again too. But that's fine. I'm going to give JustStableV2 a whirl right now. I can always revert back to Micro again if I want.

If anyone is interested, I made a CAB that installs Facebook and replaces the YouTube entry in Manilla2D with a Facebook entry. I figure this might be especially useful for Herald/Atlas users because YouTube sucks ass on our phones.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] v5HMeca:
I'm not sure what version it is that you have there, but I recall it being mentioned a few times in these parts that 5.0.31.16 works best with our phones.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
dumpy - i'm going to first see if i am satisfied with the way the new ifonz works on my phone, and if it doesn't, i will go with m2d... so it's be great if you were to post it. Speaking of which, can you specify (and link to) the version of m2d you are using? and specifically -- does the music tab invoke audio manager, and does audio manager work properly? Second, does the version you have run footprints? if so i'd really like to see that. it sounds like an interesting gizmo feature. thanks
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] v5HMeca:
I thought Footprints requires GPS. :confused:

Yeah, I can post my Facebook CAB. I'll do it in the morning (1am here; I'm about to hit the hay).

The version of Manilla 2D that I'm using comes from HTC Jade. It's the newest version and maybe it's just me, but it seems to be extremely efficient. It does have Footprints, but the tab is disabled by default (I'm guessing it can be re-enabled via the XML file).

I'm using Audio Manager 2.2 and it works fantastically. Manilla 2D works well with it.

Additionally, Manilla 2D looks for OperaL.exe in the \Windows\ directory by default as the web browser executable. While you can change this value in the registry, I like Ivan's solution more.

Downloads.

Jade Manilla 2D: http://www.mobilitydigest.com/downloads/herg62123_2DManila_1_20_19131530_00.cab

Source: http://www.mobilitydigest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1279

IOLITE Manilla 2D: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?wtjgmztyymj

Source: http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=d70bc95672875df0d2db6fb9a8902bda

The first one is the one that I'm using. The second one contains more than just Manilla 2D. It also contains separate CABs for Audio Manager, Footprints, Streaming Media, YouTube, and Album. They're all from January so they're fairly current, but I haven't tried any of them because my own setup works perfect for me.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] hoangtransport:
whats the diffrent

hi Ivan

what's the diffrent between JustStableV2Build4-Wing-LZX.7z and JustStableV2Build4-Wing.7z

i can flash thru vista 64 bit with non LZX verson, but no luck with *-LZX verson.

thanks for your anwser

Hoang trans
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] xecutionkrk:
Simply better than earlier release V3 version :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
ROFL

JustKitchen.info was provided by DestructDez1, he bought the domain and gave me the webspace, ftp access, etc. I just set up the page in there.

Either way, I believe that the .com is a lot more expensive to buy. I'm pretty happy with the info site, though. ^_^ And seeing as I do this as a hobby, it seems a little too official to have a .com. :p

It really depends on your likes and dislikes. I've had ALL versions of Arcsoft work for me. It's usually the users telling me that it doesn't work. :p

The LZX has a different compression. You get about 11mb more of free space. It cannot be flashed through a flashing program. You have to flash through the SD card.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] hoangtransport:
The LZX has a different compression. You get about 11mb more of free space. It cannot be flashed through a flashing program. You have to flash through the SD card.[/QUOTE]

it is clear now thanks so much

Hoang trans
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] raptoro07:
Thanks for all your hard work
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
I got MMS working.

If anyone wants to get MMS set up, go HERE

Tell me if it doesn't work for you.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Blaze03:
Great rom! works pretty good!

im new to the scene and was wondering if anyone can tell me what type of themes/skins I can use with this rom!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Any. They're not ROM or device specific. They may be program specific, though.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
You might be dead on about this. Fonts are HUGE memory hogs, even on a real windows computer. All Fonts are loaded into memory automatically at startup.

I include:

HelveticaNeue LT 35 Thin.ttf

tahomabd.ttf

wingding.ttf

tahoma.ttf

cour.ttf

All that takes about 612kb.

Some things DO show in the programs folder, due to the programs themselves being hard headed and not liking being linked from the windows folder (and this wastes space as there will always be a copy in the windows folder. I gotta work on that part, too. I forgot about the new googlemaps's hardcoding.)

The only programs you listed that would cause problems are PCMKeyboard and S2U2 since they are the only ones that load in memory. Try the font removal first, though.

The certificates is also mine, but that's going away in build 6. It's not really useful nor does it affect the system negatively.

The Windows media player is normal.

This might be the RAM issue. So check those fonts again.

I switched to a new Java system and OperaMini. No worries, it will always call from the cooked stuff, not from the SD.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
One more thing: I also have problems with WKtask

And again, I have no idea what I could have corrupted in the customization I have done over the past 2 days... But in all versions of JustStable (v1), I never had a problem with the "OK" button gesture actions that can be set up in WKtask prefs. But somehow, I have this problem now, which is intermittent.... Where the gesture actions are not functioning occasionally...

??
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Just realized I missed that section:

hmm... Does it work fine before installing anything? This one eludes me... I'll need to mess around with it. What did you have the gesture set up to do?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
ah HAH... so this could be the culprit. There are some that I still have not been able to remove. I searched high and low for methods to delete windows files, and there were only 2 methods: (a) renaming the extension to .BAK -- then trying to delete. THIS worked on 90% of the added fonts that i later removed... and again,the problem went away after they were deleted. and (b) creating a text file outside that folder -- saved as the exact name of the file you want to delete, then copying it into the windows folder to overwrite the larger file with that name.

Despite these 2 methods, there are still some .TTF files I see which are not on your list, and ones that I want to delete, but can't seem to do it:

• HelveticaNeueOTS.TTS ... 119.7k (separate from your version of LT 35, which is 86.3k )

• wingding.ttf ... (don't ask why... i just dragged a bunch of ttf fonts onto my device when i was experimenting with Menu bar and Popup display sizes) ...@ 79.1k

• some mystery font called HATTEN.ttf @ 99.2k -- can't get rid of this.

• Calibri.ttf (I think this is the PC version, vs the PPC version, because Calibri is one of the very highly recommended replacement system fonts for windows mobile -- so i might have, in my bad experiement of moving PC files to PPC, overwritten the small font file with the large one -- it is 344.4k

---- okay, i just used the textfile trick and overwrote HATTEN.ttf with a 1k text file of same name, and it took. SO I have now succeeded at getting rid of all the unwanted fonts... but still not sure about HelveticaNeueOTS.TTS --- that for sure is not yours, correct?

---- and tell me the practical impact of, let's say 3MB of saved space ... I know your objective is always shaving down. In the realm of these devices, 3MB makes a sizable difference in memory for multiple apps running? I think maybe I just have never comprehended what 3MB really adds or subtracts... it *seems* like a trivial amount to me, but in the relam of PPC device, are you saying that it actually delivers practical value in eliminating even these amounts?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
It's really no different than the actions you can set up in Wktask to "tap & hold" vs tap, and the various assignments you can make for those conditionals. The other thing allowed, which enables that "OK" button to have so many multi-functions (which I think is brilliant on the part of the WKtask app developer), is:

drag horizontally from the okay button to the left, just a bit -- to which I have assigned "Launcher" (WKtask launcher)

and

drag vertically from okay button - to which I have assigned "Horizontal-Vertical rotate" (or whatever the similar choice is to that phrase).

It has always worked flawlessly.

====

I'll tell you one more variable I forgot to say, which preceeded all these problems from last night:

I was using a screen capture app called CapSure -- which I like very much. It can be set to countdown 5 seconds, then snap a screenshot, then continue shooting screenshots every X seconds, for a mamximum of XX shots.

Depending on which application I am trying to document via screenshot, these either work very smoothly, or, with troublesome apps like that damn HTC audio manager plug in, there would be these huge delays of a minute or two, where you can't tell which event is delaying the screen shot from firing -- the opening of the audio manager app, or some conflict with a next-in-queue timed screen shot with the opening of the app.

Anyway, it is after several hours of trying this over and over again to try to document certain screens which simply look good and I have wanted to show, that these two problems occurred: (a) the intermittent problems with the Screen rotatation redraw (it's working fine right now, and I can't tell you why), and (b) the failure of certain WKtask events... most notably, in launching that App (even though it is already running), in order to access WKtask prefs, I have to launch that app -- and when you launch it, it gives you ther soft screen option bottom right [MENU] ... and in this intermittent problem now, I invoke that app, and the [MENU] thing doesn't display -- which means that something is interfering with the whole prefs thing.

I hope these details are useful to you. I am guessing that with years of cooking, you have figured out little sequential things that can actually screw up or disable a function. Those are the things I am trying to figure out.

**** But you say you are releasing a justSTable v2, build 6 ?

Is it just for some more minor little things here and there, or did you discover something that warrants a new build. I was crossing my fingers that V2 build 4 would be the last ROM installation I do for 6 mopnths to ayear, seriously. (as I have said ad nauseum ... :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Just as a quick answer to the build question (with a customer right now so I can't give you a full answer on the other things atm)

I keep releasing new builds mostly because there are new MS builds to build upon and to fix minor issues. Sometimes I will do it for major issues. In this case, it's based off a newer MS build and it has a few minor fixes.

I gotta get with you and figure out an easier way for you to reconfigure your device. That's why I offered making you a ROM at one time. I don't think I could handle having to reconfigure everything from scratch every time I flashed. I like being able to hard reset and have everything automatically set up.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
Well then I take you up on that offer. I just didn't want to burden you. I just don't have the time, unfortunately, to devote to becoming a chef for myself, learning all that, and then creating my auto-installs and roms. It's too much for me because much as I truly love XDA, its people and culture, for me it's like getting my car fixed. Once it's fixed, i don't go hanging around the auto-repair facility to see who's having what problems with their cars too.

maybe bad analogy... i try to do my share in giving... but you of ALL people would know, the TIME pricetag is very steep to getting a rom onto one's phone that makes it work even BASICALLY well. Seriously, if such a thing could be bought, I would have bought it long time ago (I understand the copyright issues and the tightrope we walk, however).

This is why to me SASHIMI might be the kind of thing I *can* invest in that pays me dividends of beimng able to reconfigure my phone hopefully really easily. Please email me or PM me or reply here what I should do about taking you up on some form of offer to help me with customization. thanks and have good weekend. didn't know you worked weekend.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
PM sent.

*filler since forum doesn't allow short messages*
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] eichenberg:
I just switched from Ttran's OTP 7.x to JustStable and so far I like it. However, I am having a problem loading a program for my work. After the software installs on the phone it syncronizes itself with the same software I have on my pc. During the syncing I get the following error:

'System.Data.SqlServerce, Version = 3.3.3600.0, Culture = neutyral, PublicKeyToken = 3BE235DF1C8D2AD3', or one of its dependencies was not found,

I googled that same error and everything I am finding is so over my head, I have no idea what they are talking about. Everything I found talks to developers in developer lanague that I can't understand. Any help would be appreciated. I would contact my work support but the Wing stock specs don't meet their min requirements so they don't support the phone.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Are you the same guy from JustHome? Either way, it sounds like my ROM is missing the SQLserverCE that is needed. I don't install it by default. You can download and install it by searching for it. Although, I MIGHT include it in the next build, as I am doing with JustHome...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] eichenberg:
No I am not the same person...thanks for the info I will search for the download