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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Inc:
I don't like android much; prefer Win Mobile clearly ... So for my part I would want work be put into creating better WM6 ROMs than wasting time porting android.

I know I'll be flamed heavily for this comment - but hey - who cares ;-)

Take care,

Inc
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ivanmmj:
I think people really misunderstand something.

ROM cooks and Android developers are TWO different sets of people.

Android porting requires actual coding skills.

Windows Mobile Cooking doesn't.

Porting Android won't take away from making windows mobile ROMs. It'll just get MORE people involved. Take the Herald forum for example. Not one cook is involved with the actual android porting. (Well, I'm involved but in a minor way.) In fact, most of the actual coders still use the default ROM. lol

So, no, not porting Android doesn't really help anyone. (Except for maybe the coder's wives/husbands... lol)

As a side note: I used to also prefer winmo, until I really started playing with my coworker's G1... To make the story short, I got my own G1 and I LOVE it. Wouldn't trade it for anything.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Thisisaline:
Hey guys, i'm kind of a noob with a noobish question. You see, i've been eyeing this phone for sometime but was always kinda dissapointed it wasn't running android, but it was way out of my budget anyway. Long story short, my mobile provider is offering me the chance to get it at about half the price, but i only got till the end of the month to do so.

I'm just wondering, to be sure since i barely passed programming in school, if the developers are able to fully port android for the touch pro 2, will a programming idiot like myself find it way difficult to get it running on my phone, or is that bit relatively simple?

Having said that, what are the current prospects that it's actually gonna fully materealize?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] crazy talk:
the porting of android probably will not happen for atleast 6 months. maybe longer. i do not know first hand how long, or complicated these projects are.

when it actually happens i am guessing it will not be out of reach for most to accomplish.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Thisisaline:
Ooo, ok.. Wow, what should i do...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] crazy talk:
use windows Mobile?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ivanmmj:
Well, installing the current Android port on the Herald is as simple as installing a CAB then clicking on the icon to boot it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] crazy talk:
does it run ontop of Windows Mobile or restart the phone and take over the show?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ivanmmj:
Neither, it kicks out Windows mobile from memory and takes over.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jutley:
HTC Hero is aproaching ever so fast we dont have much time left hold tight its gonna be a bumpy ride.

This is what we have been waiting for all our lives this is it guys saddle up cause theres a new guy on the block and he means buisness.

I officially anounce the HTC Hero is here and to give the go ahead to start porting and helping eachother to create the best android port ever to the htc touch pro2.

please submit all uploads here mods you may clear up this topic when uploads start rolling in keep it clean guys keep it real and hey may the force be with you.

I leave you my last words for windows mobile users god bless.

The android hero mobile is here

what all windows mobile users fear.

Its faster its swifter and its ease of use

is far better then years of windows mobile abuse.

You know android is comming and its comming fast.

Its time to put windows mobile where it belongs the past.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chasy:
rofl .. nice one ^^

but android + sense running on touchpro2 would be the most awesome thing in the world
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kelvin123204:
yes,i thing so:):p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Poke_N_PDA:
+ CDMA version that has a 3.5mm jack.

That would be the most awesome thing in the world. At that point, all you are missing is a capacitive screen and it seems that the resistive screen (from what I hear) is pretty damn good on the TP2.

well, I'd also like a hardware vibrate switch and a directional pad, but I can do without. We're really getting close to having the perfect devices available :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] powersquad:
lol, you seem to be clueless and sound like a M$ hater. Android has many years to catch up.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Yuuvi:
Has nothing to do with that IMHO..

WinMo6.1 is a mess.. really..

I'd rather have Android ported to the HTC Rhodium. =|

I will even donate to these projects when they start. =D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Poke_N_PDA:
ditto that.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccreath:
Waste of time

Hero and Android are still soooo far behing the curve it's not funny.

Linux took YEARS to establish itself as a viable open source competitor for M$ or Unix, why do you think Android will be any different?

Hero has old tech bits shoved inside just so that the open source programmers don't get confused with their current developments.

*yawn* /rant
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ozwak:
APN problem

I had the same problem at start after a while reading here and few other places i found that what i didnt notice is how to create the APN.

Go to Settings menu and mobile and networks -> there get to the APN menu and press menu option if will open options click new and set it according to your ISP. Often the only needs are APN name APN user and APN pass.

Hope this helps, sorry i dont point to the direct location but not next to the mobile right now.

Will follow later if this helps and you need specific pointer.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rich2thad:
i need help understanfing the zimage and what one and why i use what one?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] psyopstt:
zImage is the kernel. Definition of kernel from Wikipedia:

The 'kernel' is the central component of most computer operating systems; it is a bridge between applications and the actual data processing done at the hardware level. The kernel's responsibilities include managing the system's resources (the communication between hardware and software components).Usually as a basic component of an operating system, a kernel can provide the lowest-level abstraction layer for the resources (especially processors and I/O devices) that application software must control to perform its function. It typically makes these facilities available to application processes through inter-process communication mechanisms and system calls.

Diagram can be found here

(insert h t t p :// before upload.wiki...) upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8f/Kernel_Layout.svg/200px-Kernel_Layout.svg.png

sorry cant embed external images or links with my account.:(

As you can see the zImage is vital in the success of porting android to our device. Most of the updates with features added eg:wifi, bluetooth, sound, gps etc. will most likely be in the form of a new zImage by the developers here at xda.

Heres a general description of the various files in the android packages.

haret.exe - bootloader

startup.txt/default.txt - this file contains settings that are passed to the bootloader to execute at boot time. eg:screen size, power management, network settings, etc. **startup.txt and default.txt files are basically the same the only difference is if you have startup.txt haret boots automatically while default.exe you have to select run from haret, i'm not sure but i think launching default.txt allows debugging mode. (can someone confirm?)

system.sqsh - Android OS

rootfs.img - :confused:not sure might be config files and such

intrd.gz - :confused:not sure init stuff?

data.img - personal storage
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DaveTheTytnIIGuy:
Initrd.gz is the initial RAM disk, and it's a very stripped down temporary file system only used to make preparations before the real file system is loaded. rootfs.img is another temporary file system, a custom implementation of ramfs to be more specific. IIRC it's only used for other init/system files.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] teufelschultz:
That was my first problem, but after reading here i learn how to create the APN. But now i know this and create correctly the Apn with Apn name, no user and password (because vodafone germany doesn't require this.) I try lot of possible Values for the APN, but nothing helps. Maybe I should ask the friends for a card from another Provider and try with them APN settings. Because of this i ask for a people her with vodafone germany or another germany provider..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rich2thad:
thanx 4 tha info.. noww my only problem is this, i had tha 12/24 version of androi up running in pretty good shape, but now i follow what the instructions were to do the 1/14 update and cant get it to start for the life of me the wifi tries to turn on and poof fone restarts.. i dont even want or care for wifi my 3g is plenty fast. ugghhhhh i just want my ability back to switch from android to WM but im always wanting the newest and latest build.. any help?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ozwak:
Vodafone APN

Hi mate, i work with mobile devices as developer in my daily job. I can say that in 99% of the time when APN isnt working some settings are wrong. since i know that the last release of Android 14.01 works to link the APN and allow data connection i must say settings. What i would do is call the ISP (i.e. vodafone) in your case say that i have G1 or any other android device and ask for settings of APN alternativly you can search the net for settings for android APN on vodafone DE. see no reason this shouldnt work from core level only settings, know its slightly frustrating when something that should be simple doesnt work but you will figure this out noticing you have made the most simple mistake along the way :)

One more thing did you follow the procedures here e.g. had data connection open before moving from WinMo, have browser fetching a page during maybe that would help. It solved me problems such as charging, and SMS when i set things from WinMo i am not sure why it is so since there shouldnt be a linking between the OS but there seems to be one, i would assume the reason is we run the Karnel from WinMo.

Anyway hope this helps otherwise keep posting will try to figure this one together.

Cheers
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ozwak:
My updates

My system is to blank clean each time there is a new release seems that updating isnt that smooth process and many things seem to be incompatible after it. few settings need to be done but at least my 14.1 release works without unknown glitches. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] thecompany:
Unfortenately still no wifi and power management, the two biggest issues for me (especially power management) to use android as my default.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] teufelschultz:
Hello,

now I call Vodafone Germany and ask for the correct APN Settings.

They talk me I only must setup:

Name: VF web

APN: web.vodafone.de

MCC: 262

MNC: 02

This are they settings who I test before, but it doesn't work.

And in WinMo I open a Browser to open a Internet Connection. Nothing helps. Maybe now you know why I can cry... :-(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nemo0405:
Thanks alot...the screen acc. is much better and yea i figured the wifi and g sensor weren't working i thin i was in the wrong thread :( and must not have been paying attention lol again thanks :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] qqa92:
How long would you say the initial boot sequence (after running haret.exe) takes? I had android running on my TP2 in which I tried several versions (jan 7th, 9th, 10th) and it would boot up really fast but I couldnt get data working so this morning I decided to try jan 14th build and it is just frozen at:

[ 17.455871] pgd = c0004000

I have the haret.exe program and the necessary files on the root of my 8gb sd card. I initially ran haret from a sub-folder of my sd and it fired up fine and "worked" :-) (never got data working but I made a call with sound after using the boot while in a phone call in windows work-around) but then I realized that the boot instructions said that you are not supposed to run haret from a root directory so I copied the appropriate files from the jan 14th .7z file to the root of the sd and ran haret after removing all of the old files from the root to a "stuff" folder on the root. This time it is just frozen at the above line and has been there now for about 30-40 min. Any ideas? Is it creating the file system? Does this process partition the drive for an ext2 partition or something?

Update: I just tried using a different sd card that I have never used for android and I am getting this:

[ 82.781921] Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception

[ 82.791626] Rebooting in 7 seconds...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] schriss:
when we download new zImage, do we even need the other file that is in the archive? Talking about modules. Should I extract the files and put them in Modules directory on SD card?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Scrog:
Extract both to root of SD card, rename zImage.ksdjfl;asfj. to just zImage (delete the date garbage). Leave the modules compressed in the root drive (when it boots, the system extracts what it needs).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] The_inked_battosai:
okay so i have tried to boot this on my tp2 and noticed that some of the apps dont fit the screen properly there is no camera, no sound, no g sensor and wifi but from readin this forum thats the case with everybody right? jus checking in and i acknowledge the hard work the devs are doin and congragulate there success so far.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kinglifer:
odd mine crashes when it looks for a wifi during start up. just after the gmail selection.

why is mine messing up?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] The_inked_battosai:
I jus select skip this step to get to the home screen then go to the android market to enter your gmail info or sign up thats what i did.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nwo122383:
WIFI is not working yet so just skip that step in the setup process and you can go back to it manually and set it up. For some reason when doing the aut setup it tries to use wifi, which at this point causes a reset.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] raticus76:
On the boot screen, just after "ANDROID", I get this:

unable to find setupmodem/

Could this be why the data doesn't work!?

I'm using the 14 Jan build on Tilt2 version (TP2)

EDIT: Ok. Still shows "unable to find setupmodem/" but the data now works...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] TheAgent1982:
Language files

How can i add localization and language files?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shotgun_1:
please help

Im sorry guys i have been trying to fallow the links but i cant get anything working on my tp2. can some one out there please post step by step walk through directions for some of us mentaly impared?:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DaveTheTytnIIGuy:
Try the Rhodium Port Wiki.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Kawaiius:
Im trying it out now..im new to all this so im still confused but am slowly getting it..cant wait to get it fully working. i have a problem i got it to load the first time but hte screen went off and it reset..now it wont boot..it goes through all the lines and gets stuck..been sittin for like 15 mins..any idea?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kazekage011:
CAN someone plz tell me y whenever i load up haret i reach to the android setup screen & have to click on the android it never clicks NEVER it just flashes & nothing happens. this happend with almost all builds plzz someone help i wana try it!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shotgun_1:
dose anyone have an idea why when I run HaRET all I get is 2 vibrations and then my phone shuts off, and I have to soft reset?:confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] koolgtz:
startup file

If your startup file View attachment startup.TXT is not correct this can happen use this one from now on and you should be fine with every build.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dpeavy:
ok, i got to where i'm setting up android and everything, just got past where it says network connections and all a few screens after touching the android and then it just shuts the whole phone off... whats happening?? how do i fix it??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Star-Lite:
Thats because the setup wizard tries to connect via WiFi, which crashes the phone.

Just press "skip" where you can at the wizard and setup the mail later once your data connection is working.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dpeavy:
ahh thanx, got that figurednout now. what about the camera? there isnt even a way to get to the camera besides going into the albumns and trying from there to get to the camera but thats not even pulling it up.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] raticus76:
The developers haven't got the camera working yet. A kernel update will eventually fix that but it will take a while.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wrxtcy3790:
alright thanks for that startup file for anyone who needs to know how to fix the double vibrate turn off

remove default rhoduim and replace it with the file posted like 2 posts back

n now after n the first launch it seems to lag at this line of code

/bin/sh: cant access tty: job control turned off

then after a few minutes its advances to

r4:00000000

idk wats going on it booted the first time, if its any help i tried to turn on wifi before n i just deleted everyhting and it works idk if anyone can help me figure it out wat caused it
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] WenWM:
So far this is pretty awesome, except that I cant get it on my phone
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shotgun_1:
I just want to thank all of you for what you are doing and having the patience to help some of us that are not yet up to speed
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shotgun_1:
Any ideas on why the hang up key is not working, and the screen has a red tint to it? I have a tp2 on tmo
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] J-Hop2o6:
the burn screen happens after u "wake" it up from "sleep" .. it a problem with the zImage.. after about two zImages with that burn image on the screen, i justed used a previous zImage i had in one of my folders on my SD card.. use a old zImage from around Jan 7th.. here's where all the zImage's come from--> http://glemsom.anapnea.net/android/htc-msm-android/

I haven't tried the latest ones yet.. u can try them out and report back.. they show the date of the zImage, along with user comments on the zImage..

the end key hasn't been mapped yet, so just use the on-screen end button (hit the Menu/Home button, then hit the Hang Up button (4th one on right)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shotgun_1:
thanks, is it normal that i do not have any of my sim contact when running droid?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] J-Hop2o6:
i dunno.. i haven't looked into that.. i noticed my special sim numbers #xxx# numbers wasn't in the contacts, unless its on HIDE by default.. juss look in the options of the contacts page
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shotgun_1:
ya it tells me that i have no contact and to go to menu and account, but there is no account opt in my menu.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] J-Hop2o6:
i'll check into that for you a lil later
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shotgun_1:
never mind, I've got it figured out. I'm still learning how to navigate on this phone, my brother has the G1 and it works just a little different. Thank you for your help.:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] fishwiz45:
i just keep going back to the jan. 7th build. i know that it's donut rather than eclair but, between the red screen and the end call button not being mapped i have not seen any improvements in the build?? what has been upgraded or improved?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] qqa92:
Why? Just curious.

Why would 148 people in the poll choose no to wanting an Android for Rhodium port?

Why wouldn't someone want to see the differences between the 2 OS's? Really curious. ????
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rick94:
Wondering where you guys get all those new builds from?:confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Star-Lite:
http://glemsom.anapnea.net/android/htc-msm-android/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shotgun_1:
glemsom.anapnea.net/android/htc-msm-android

In this link are all builds compatable for all devices or what for what?:confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gehzumteufel:
That is just the zimage (the kernel). That doesn't contain the system. Search on google for xdandroid. You will find it. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] m8tix:
WoW, I'm really very impressed of the progression of android on such a nice phone. I've just copied the latest files from http://www.connect-utb.com/ with the startup.txt mentioned a few pages back and it works really like a charm so far.

So guys, which builds/zimages are you using at the moment and accordingly whats the best and easiest way to put the latest and greatest images on our device ? There are so many threads that it's really hard to keep tracking them up to date :)

Regards

Matix
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] iridium21:
Yeah, that's pretty much why I've given up on this for now. There's so many threads that I don't know where I'm up to with this :(

It's such a pity that the moderators refuse to sticky just one thread! :mad:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] iridium21:
I'd like to know too - bit of a waste of time without it, IMHO.

Greetings from Bury BTW.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] m8tix:
I've just tested it now, no sound on incoming calls. But as far a great work on the developers !

Regards
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] fr0st420:
Is there a way to make the phone not go into GSM mode? My SIM is unlocked but I'm on Sprint and would like CDMA networks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DaveTheTytnIIGuy:
The most up to date information, all in one place, is found at the Rhodium AndroidOnHTC wiki, here. Whenever anything relevant to the Rhodium comes up, I will update the wiki, as will others. It documents all working hardware, the latest builds, common questions, and contains other useful links to all the relevant Android threads.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] [ACL]:
Having the same issue. I went as far as building my own kernel with modified .config. I don't know how people claim CDMA is working or at least partially working.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aledantas2k6:
Could someone zip and post a working image?

Would be cool, just download and run... without the lame questions about where should i download, or zimage or where should i edit?

Just 1 file, download and run... That's it!!

Cheers

Alessandro
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] iridium21:
Ignore me please