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[G1 Accessories] guaava23:
Battery vamp

I have had the G1 since Friday, and I once I use the browser, it really sucks up the battery. The battery has regularly gone from 80 or 90% charged to 15% in around 2 hours or less of use. I will try all you guys have suggested to see if it helps, otherwise I think I will try to get a battery replacement first, then replace the phone altogether if that doesn't work.
[G1 Accessories] Reeg:
When turning off the GPS, will Android ask to turn it back on when using Maps or an app that uses GPS?
[G1 Accessories] gospeed.racer:
I have both GPS and Wireless off, so when I go to use maps, and choose "my location" it pops up and says I need to turn on a source, and has a shortcut to the my location sources setup. For me, its a simple step to get much better battery life. I am sure one day we will have an app that turns it on and off for us:)
[G1 Accessories] trs999:
Thanks for the help guys. Charging overnight really does make the battery life much much longer, also what I have found are alot of apps on the app store will automatically startup at power on. One example is that cooking program that was one of the first apps out I downloaded it just to look at it (as I am sure alot of people do), and then I just forget about it cause I never use it. Well when I would power on the phone it automatically stated but I had no idea. You can find this info if you go to settings from the main menu - applications - manage applications - choose the application you want - click show all at the bottom of the page and if it is set you will see automatically start on boot under system tools
[G1 Accessories] chefgon:
Disabling coarse cell tower location is WAY too effective, there has to be some kind of defect in this feature that is causing it to drain so much battery.
[G1 Accessories] ei8htohms:
hmm, sounds like it's not compatible for some reason

The more I learn about Micro SDHC cards (which is still very little), the more I'm convinced that they are NOT all created equal and there are subtle speed and compatibility issues at play that are not well documented. I fried a 16GB Class 2 card and just chalked it up to a material failure, but maybe it was a compatibility issue? That one was so fried it couldn't even be read by my PC however so...

At any rate, that sucks if you can't use the card, but luckily 8GB cards are pretty inexpensive these days so it's not crushing to have to replace it.
[G1 Accessories] cronin4392:
alright, but i found these speed tests done:

http://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/index.php?title=Memory_Speed_Tests

my card is the sd-c02g. there are a few of them there, but the average speed for reading is 16 mb/s and a write speed isnt listed. there is also a random access speed. but if it was 1 mb for every class would that mean my card was class 16(which im pretty sure they dont have)?
[G1 Accessories] Bunnybooze:
Lol it's not! I promise! But I guess no one else has anything.. :(
[G1 Accessories] Gimpeh:
Your asking about a females opinion. There aren't many of them around these parts.
[G1 Accessories] here.david:
Well now that I have had a week of use I have noticed that the (old) "02" batteries would last about 4-5hrs and go until 1% before turning off, with a slow count down. The (new) "04" batteries stay at a high number (about 6-7hrs) until they get to 15% and within a few mins turn-off....as I recall I saw postings of 'quick' count downs, so I wonder if you either get a slow drain down with about 4hrs of use OR about 6 hrs of use with the last 15% a very quick shutdown....I'll keep monitoring these new HTC batteries to see if it was just one of those "weekend" things or if this is the trade off...was caught off guard as I had been getting 30 mins or so when I had 15% left and the G1 would stay on until 1%..."teach an old dog new tricks".....

Silly me...I did not take out the battery after the 3rd charging...now everything works...goes till about 1% BEFORE SHUTTING DOWN...yes, better battery as I get about 1 1/2 to 2 extra hrs...
[G1 Accessories] Moradin:
Dual Sim

Anyone know of a good Dual Sim solution that works with a G1 ?
[G1 Accessories] karloe:
You do know that the Class is specified by the write speed: wikipedia

This looks like a solid Class 6 card to me.
[G1 Accessories] ei8htohms:
no, I didn't know that, thanks for the clarification!

I'm a total newb when it comes to Micro SDHC, so I appreciate the education.

I feel like I've read at least a few SanDisk Ultra reviews that benchmarked Class 2 and Class 4 cards with much higher write and especially read speeds (plenty in excess of 10 Mbps). So while these cards may in fact be Class 6 cards, it doesn't look like impressive performance, does it?
[G1 Accessories] Bunnybooze:
I realize that now. Bah!
[G1 Accessories] Classie83:
Wow, sickeningly cute. Not my style (and I'm a female), but if it suits you...:)

I was looking at various skins and what not and I do like DecalGirl's "Her Abstraction" for the G1. I was gonna get it to match my little netbook.
[G1 Accessories] rshemeld:
so does any one waht 1

so does anyone want one?! lol
[G1 Accessories] SoTacMatt:
I just ordered the A-data one off of newegg.com

I can't wait! I mistakenly rushed and bought an 8gb sdhc class 2, and have been kicking my self. Now I can move the apps and/or the databases to the sd card.

Thanks for the heads up!
[G1 Accessories] Bunnybooze:
I'll look into Decal Girl's skins. :D
[G1 Accessories] cheekymonkee20:
I still have the plain old holder that came with mine :( But...I ordered 2 skins from skinit.com. I did the "make your own" so one is pink with some weird siwrly designs on it, and I even put a little picture of my chihuahua on the bottom right corner. I'll post some pics when I get them!
[G1 Accessories] eleminop:
I have an 8gb A-data "class 6"

it seems to work pretty good for me, i ran a bench on it and it came up like this..

thats with a little over 700mb of stuff on there.
[G1 Accessories] daveid:
My A-Data Class 6 16GB comes today!
[G1 Accessories] axion68:
something seems odd here..
[G1 Accessories] cronin4392:
any help?

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[G1 Accessories] ruffrider5956:
sd cards

hey im wondering which class memory card is the best i see alot of people buying class 4 or class 6 but im not sure which is better and im trying to buy an 8gb micro sd card
[G1 Accessories] SoTacMatt:
Go with class 6!

In fact, I just ordered a 16gb class 6 card off of newegg.com.

If you are not rooting your phone, class 2 would be good enough.

Use: http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1137/ATTO_Disk_Benchmark_v2.34.html
[G1 Accessories] SoTacMatt:
The stock 1 gb cards that come with the G1 are Micro SD not SDHC. The write speed would put it at about class 4 (4 MB/Sec)
[G1 Accessories] heldc:
I like that this case sits flush against the speaker&camera. I wonder tho, does the battery sticking out just below the camera show up in photos?
[G1 Accessories] blackknightavalon:
Sorry for the late reply. It's this one.
[G1 Accessories] heldc:
I just have a zagg skin on mine and keep it in my purse.

I got some print your own decal paper tho, and I'm going to try and make my own purple skin for my g1. If it works out, I'll probably do a reprint, and spray the decal paper with a strong clearcoat before I put it on the phone, to give it the extra protection.

Index card holders fit the g1 pretty well, and come in lots of cute styles. Also, small makeup bags.
[G1 Accessories] SoTacMatt:
Any issues? Are you running apps and/or databases off it?
[G1 Accessories] tulamidan:
wow, that was helpful... but this is what I'm actually doing as well :\

Looks like the G1 currently has problems with digital dual sim adapters. They recommend to use an analogue one where you switch from simcard to simcard by using the flight mode. Still sucks a bit when you switch off you phone over night and you have to turn on/off the flightmode twice to get back to your normal card. But I'm struggling a bit finding useful information about this issue. I haven't tried it myself as in my city the local mobile dealers never heard about a dual sim adapter :confused: so I'm still trying to find more detailed information before I order one online...
[G1 Accessories] Obsidiandesire:
There are some manual solution, my grandad has an old nokia with Turkish+English simcard, it has a "Fake" simcard, wired to the 2 real ones via a switch, it's hard to explain but very very simple. just switches the path between simcards. Seems foolproof for me, just a second of no signal while it recognises the new simcard. If your interested, I could draw a circuit Diagram for you, with minimal skills youcould make your own (provided you have a simcard you can rip up)
[G1 Accessories] question.com:
crap, i just got my new batt, but its also a 02 one.
[G1 Accessories] zinite:
How are you guys getting HTC to send you batteries? I've tried emailing them twice and both times they told me that they don't handle issues with the G1 and to contact T-Mobile.

Even T-Mobile tells me that I have to return my entire phone to receive a new battery. Any tips?
[G1 Accessories] SolemnWishing:
It really depends on whether or not you are lucky. Actually, just a few months ago, some people in China were injured when their batteries overheated and exploded while they were talking on their cell phones, investigation later found out that they were using cheap imitation batteries. So again, sometimes it might be more worth it to just spend that extra 10 or 20 dollars and buy from a name brand or HTC themselves instead of taking that risk.
[G1 Accessories] SolemnWishing:
Hmm. I assumed that the stock memory card was a class 2, because, well it came with the phone and it doesn't say what class it is (its not gonna put it right on the card as if to brag "CLASS 2!"). And all class 4 cards I have seen put "class 4" on the card.
[G1 Accessories] gunigugu:
6gb - Class 4 card

I was thinking about upgrading my card to 16gb / class 6, for speed & storage.. though I really haven't used up all the storage on my card... so it was mainly for speed.

So did some test with my current card, just to see the difference:

Sandisk - 6gb - Class 4:

As you can see, it appears to be much faster then any other card... so I'm wondering whether i should upgrade at all? The card seems to be doing pretty good. Though I really would like faster. Especially since I run apps of the card, I always wonder if I can't squeeze out a bit more performance.
[G1 Accessories] SoTacMatt:
I completely agree with you. I only put class 4, because they are supposed to be rated at write speed, which my stock card measured 4mb write speed.

Otherwise, I'm with you.
[G1 Accessories] daveid:
Lovin' it. Running apps off it (left the /data/data on the internal memory, so /data/app, /data/app-private, and /data/dalvik-cache) are on the sd. It also allowed me to re-encode my cd collection from 80kb/s ogg vorbis to 128kb/s ogg vorbis (of course not directly, from the original source flacs) which has made my ears very happy! It is plenty fast, and I have 60MB free on my /data partition when the caches are cleared.

A great buy if you ask me.
[G1 Accessories] SoTacMatt:
Mine should show up today or Monday. And I'm planning to do exactly what you described. Thanks for the input!
[G1 Accessories] SolemnWishing:
It really is up to you. The class specified the minimum read and write speed it will work at. Class 2, 2MBps, Class 3, 3MBps, and so forth. For normal usages, a class 2 is enough. However, if you plan on running applications off an Ex2 partition on your SD card in the future, you should go with atleast a class 4. I currently use a class 4, 8 gig. Understand that if you choose to run apps off the card, the higher the class, the better the application startup and overall performance will increase. Also, of course, higher class means higher price. SD Cards are cheap, so if you change your mind, buying another one isn't a big deal. However, I recommend you buy a card from a local store rather than online, and here is why: accidents happen. You may accidentally format your card incorrectly and corrupt it, etc making it unusable. I destroyed my first 8GB card trying to create the Ex2 partition, and after hours was finally able to reformat at, as it would crash Windows Explorer when put into my computer. If you buy it from the store and break it later on, just act dumb and say "uhh, it was working this morning but when I got home it stopped working."
[G1 Accessories] jashsu:
Unless you're going to be constantly transferring multiple gigabytes of data through the microsd, I would be more concerned about the quality of the card rather than the speed class. I'd recommend either Kingston (Made in Taiwan and Made in Japan) or Transcend (Made in Taiwan). Under no circumstances would I suggest Sandisk, which while popular, also die at a higher rate. They are Made in China.
[G1 Accessories] question.com:
i called t mo, and complained a few times. last week i called cause i didnt have 3g. so they told me it was down in my area. while on the call, i told the rep my batt was horrible. i told her i had all radios off, and it only lasts around 4 hours.

she said she would be happy to send me a new batt. i asked if i had to send mine back, and she said no, i could use it as a back up.

ive had the batt now for 3 days and so far its decent. im currently conditioning it.
[G1 Accessories] chamelieon:
I just benched a 2g i had laying around which is what im using in the G1 ..expected really low numbers from it since its not name brand.. just has SD-C02G JAPAN on it and some other little serial number..

anyhow in otto benchmark after 64 on the left field all the way down to 8192 it was steady 7030-7041 write speed, and 9402-9550 read speed.

i know there isnt a class 7 ..but comparing to that other card someone benched on here with 10mb+ write speed then thats like a class 10. that thing is flyiiiing!

so anything over 7mb is considered a what ?

i remember someone saying in another post never anything under a class6 for apps to SD... but now i see people with class 2s and class4s .. notice anything?
[G1 Accessories] mrjay:
delete wrong topic
[G1 Accessories] chrisag92:
for those of u looking for a 2400 mAH

with a white back door cover i just ordered this from ebay

pretty neat and i cant wait for it to come in the mail

http://cgi.ebay.com/T-MOBILE-G1-EXTENDED-2400mAh-BATTERY-WHITE-COVER-NEW_W0QQitemZ160325673362QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_AudioTVElectronics_PDAsAccessories_PDABatteries?hash=item160325673362
[G1 Accessories] SolemnWishing:
Anyone tried this full body case?

http://www.amazon.com/Solid-Crystal..._31?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1239591158&sr=1-31
[G1 Accessories] wootroot:
no but for that price its tempting
[G1 Accessories] Dantehman:
Get it bought!! lmao
[G1 Accessories] phin1ght:
No, but it seems like it might be a bit of a pain to hit the hard keys correctly.
[G1 Accessories] AndyBroke:
I have the same issues with a transcend 8gb sdhc c4 card. :(
[G1 Accessories] SolemnWishing:
Yeah, seems like it would be a pain to hit the camera button too. However, based on the reviews, they say the bottom chin piece actually only wraps around the chin, not covering the whole face of the chin.
[G1 Accessories] supersoaker253:
ive had one of these that i got from a different site, i had ordered the clear and smoke crystal cases, i must say the clear one looked very bad but the smoke one offsetted my black g1 really well. The buttons on the chin was harder to hit and the trackball was a pain to use so i used the touchscreen more than actually useing the trackball. If you like to have your whole phone covered i recommend it but if you use your buttons and trackballs alot its a real pain. I did use it for a period of time without that peice that covers the buttons and track ball and the case was still secure without it but i felt that i didn't need a case anymore (changed jobs) now i don't have a case on it at all. =)
[G1 Accessories] SolemnWishing:
Well, actually, I already have a ShieldSkin installed (kinda like the InvisiShield by Zagg) and it covers around 95% of the phone. Unfortunately, I dropped my phone and it landed on a tiny pebble on the 5% that wasn't covered, and now I got 2 fairly noticeable dings on the phone that I have managed to cover with a pinch of clay to make myself feel better. Do you guys think I need this extra protection? I think I am becoming obsessed. I mean, I have the ShieldSkin, I hand built a case with 1 inch thick foam padding that is capable of protecting the G1 to around a 30 foot drop and floats on water, I also sewed together a case that I could carry around just in case it fell out of my pocket so it wouldn't land on the "5%" that isn't covered. And just today, I hand built a cradle-ish type device for my G1, which I am actually quite fond off. I built it out of an Erector set. Do you guys think I need this? I mean... like what, 3 bucks? Maybe its worth it... they sell a similar case at my local Frys store and its 10 dollars.
[G1 Accessories] CG2xRandy:
Largest Mini SD Card That Is Compatible With A Non-Rooted G1

What is the largest mini sdcard a nonrooted t-mobile g1 can use?
[G1 Accessories] SoTacMatt:
I don't think it matters if you are rooted or not.

But, I just got a 16gb micro sdhc. Works great!
[G1 Accessories] SoTacMatt:
When mine showed up, I read the back and it showed write speed of 9mb. Still labeled as a class 6.
[G1 Accessories] gunigugu:
hmm.. i wonder if there aren't any other benchmarks to show off like random access times and stuff.. cuz i still can't believe my 6gb card above which is a "class 4" benchmarked on 2 seperate computers at nearly 18mbs read speed!
[G1 Accessories] gunigugu:
Class 6 to my understanding is the most that has been approved to be rated for. Class 8 / 10 does not exist yet....
[G1 Accessories] daveid:
It does not matter, root or not. 16GB (some say 32GB works as well). And it has to be MICROSD not MINISD.
[G1 Accessories] Dantehman:
:D i just spotted that mistake too lol
[G1 Accessories] supersoaker253:
if you're very prone to drop your phone i highly recommend them, i dropped mine twice on the concrete face up and down without a scratch on the phone (thank goodness there was no pebbles that hit the screen =D) when it hit face up all the pieces flew all over the place but the bottom piece, but when hit face down nothing came off. I rarely take my phone out of my pocket outside while standing now since i don't have a case on it cause i have the mugen extended battery lol.
[G1 Accessories] :
my friend has one. they are bulky....just skin it...www.bestskinsever.com...
[G1 Accessories] supersoaker253:
in his last post he stated that he has a sheildskin on it and still managed to drop it on a pepple on the exposed areas.
[G1 Accessories] :
the answer to that is .......

dont drop your G1!!!
[G1 Accessories] jmon777:
looking for this case in black

http://www.amazon.com/T-Mobile-Android-Sensitive-Touch-Through-Protector/dp/B001KK941K

I want this case in black or anyone know where i can get one??? I don't really care about the color as long as it not pink.this case has A full screen cover. That u can use the scrren through and the only other case like this i can find is case mate and 30 bucks. thanx any feed back would help.
[G1 Accessories] chrisag92:
here you go in black

http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-G1-GOOGLE-PHONE-Black-Rubber-Hard-Case-Cover-w-Clip_W0QQitemZ140300942507QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item140300942507&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50
[G1 Accessories] jmon777:
Thanx but its not the same case. This one has a hard cover over the screen that the touch screen will work through.
[G1 Accessories] wootroot:
32gb works? holy ****... thats plenty of space
[G1 Accessories] Gimpeh:
If 32gig works then I'm gonna go ahead and get that instead of 16. Can anyone verify? What classes are available?
[G1 Accessories] MarcusMaximus04@gmail.com:
As far as I've seen(and I've definitely looked) there are no 32GB micro-sd cards yet. But once there are they'll definitely work. the G1 supports SDHC and that goes up to 32GB (theoretically it can go up to 2TB but the spec puts on an official limit of 32GB)
[G1 Accessories] SolemnWishing:
Well, my replacement G1 came today (YAY) bummer is there goes the ShieldSkin I bought... worth it I guess, ill be ordering another one. In addiction to that ill have a full body case too. OCD to the maxx.
[G1 Accessories] ryan75:
Not sure if it's been brought up in another thread (this is actually the first time I've been in the accessories forum - by accident), but the Body Glove rubber case is pretty nice.

It's #1 "pro" is that it has made my G1 virtually indestructible. It has survived multiple falls from 6'3" (my ear) to concrete with nary a scratch. The stock battery case sometimes goes flying with the protector, but that's about it. Also, since it's rubber and tackified, I can put it on a slippery surface (countertop or dashboard) and it grips pretty good.

As far as "cons", it has made my menu and camera buttons a little tricky to push, but nothing I can't live with. Also, as I mentioned above, if I remove the rubber protector on the back, the stock plastic case usually comes with it. Lastly, the front protector part is kind of a ***** to get off, but I rarely take it off.
[G1 Accessories] SolemnWishing:
I am considering buying this one...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Soft-Silicone-S...4|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:0|293:1|294:50

however, I need a screen protector too. Anyone recommend one? Id prefer one under 5 dollars.

Well, don't need a screen protector anymore. But I just found this neat looking case called the fishbone..

http://cgi.ebay.com/RED-Fishbone-Sk...5|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50
[G1 Accessories] albertab:
Holster that isn't magnetic?

For a while now I've been hearing that having a magnetic casing on touch phones is a bad idea because somehow the magnets break the touch screen.

Is this actually true?

Now, I know a lot of people have been having problems with compass afterwards, which is logical, but I was wondering if anyone knows of a belt clip holster that actually isn't magnetic? I've been "ebay'ing" for an hour and a half, couldn't find anything.

Getting my Dev Phone 1 next week and want everything to be ready for it. :)

Thanks in advance!
[G1 Accessories] jmon777:
i found them 96 cents on amazon. if they are any good ill let guys know because i feel like like the major week point in this phone is the screen. and these cases fix that then they are well worth the money!!!
[G1 Accessories] benmyers2941:
I ended up getting one with a magnet, cutting it out and replacing it with some little Velcro circles I got at home depot. It's been working great for me since november
[G1 Accessories] Sistum Id:
Ive had a cheap 5 dollar ebay case with a magnet since November and I havent had a single problem with my phone. Google Maps, Google Streetview with or with out compass mode, and regualr compass all work fine.
[G1 Accessories] down8:
M... most ppl would say one of the benfits of this device is the screen....

-bZj
[G1 Accessories] jmon777:
Oh I love the screen. I ment as far as somthing breaking. Or in my experance cracking
[G1 Accessories] jaboswell:
i also called htc and they said they dont handle support for G1 and that i should call tmobile...called 611 on my phone...they checked it out for me and said they dont do replacement batteries for the G1 and to contact htc.
[G1 Accessories] CG2xRandy:
thanx

Thanx for all the help everyone
[G1 Accessories] RichieDaze:
1600mAh batteries 20$.

http://www.amazon.com/1600mAh-Exten...7?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1240199355&sr=8-7
[G1 Accessories] :
thats for a tilt...not a dream.....
[G1 Accessories] bigballa:
fommy batt

this is the best one in my opinion

it even has a review from phonedog

Review

it even has a better back cover
[G1 Accessories] zeezee:
haha that actually sounds like an idea! :P
[G1 Accessories] thulinhlun:
I went for number 5 and still working untill now

http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f13/carrying-pouch-for-ur-g1-vote-for-ur-favorite-11873/
[G1 Accessories] TimSykes:
I have never had a issue with any HTC phone, and I always use a magnetic case.