yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Poke_N_PDA:
If that's what the current internal spec is then I'm pretty dang sure it will have it. That means that it's been designed to have it and removing it would just be removing the chip from the board. The chip is probably pretty dang cheap as it is. Then it would just be wasted space.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ajbopp:
Specs don't just disappear from web pages for no reason. The main HTC site still shows the FM radio as not being included, when it used to be there. I'm hoping it will continue to be there, but somebody took it down for a reason, even if it wasn't taken down from all sites.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Lyian:
at this point, if they say it still has it, it likely still does. They have to be manufacturing them in mass by now with it being as close to the release as it is (least outside of the US). T-Mobile/AT&T may have the radio removed tho, it wouldn't surprise me for them to remove features (ie cmos camera). But who knows. Either way, i couldn't care less. I don't listen to the radio as it is. Not to say that others wouldn't want to, but technically, this is a business phone so a radio would seem a bit out of its way.

Personally, i would say, if they included a radio, they should also include a 3.5mm jack to Listen to it on.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ajbopp:
That's pretty much my point. At this time, they most decidedly are not saying that it has it, when in February they specifically said on the same page that it was included. I hope it was right then and wrong now, but I have my doubts.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pgamble:
Business or phone phone

I do wish people would stop pandering to this rubbish.

No one buys a highend PDA phone (privately) to use it just as a business / organiser device or just as a fun / media device.

It is fair to say that some people won't mind if a radio or tv-out or gfx acceleration or decent camera or 3.5" jack is missing .... but that isn't a justification for HTC or anyone else not to put these things in on expensive new devices.

Most people I know that have a highend device like the HD or TP2 will probably want at some point to dump some movies to it and play it on an hotel TV when they are away with work because they don't have their Archos or ipod with them. This means that TV-Out and support of embedded gfx hardware should be a given.

Most people would prefer a proper wired headphone jack for wired listening of any description.

Many people find themselves on the train, at an airport or in a break and at some point may like to listen to the news. If you live in the UK or a country where most providers insist on realmedia for streaming, Resco News etc is no good ... you need a decent radio. PDA and phone manufacturers have demonstrated that hardware for this sort of thing is typically on chipset anyway and just needs enabling and exploiting in firmware.

HTC very irritatingly artificially leave these things out which makes the device in complete ... for no good reason other than to force people to either get two devices or feel frustrated from time to time (even if rarely) when they want to use things like the above.

The camera situation is the same. 30fps vga video is common place on SE and Nokia ... Apple and HTC should not be forgiven for not including it (yes ... I know the TD2 and TP2 now have it ... at last) ... also ... yes ... you'd expect if you were planning to take holiday snaps you'd take your Pentax or Canon SLR with you .. but often you want to take adhoc pictures .... why shouldn't they be of decent quality ... the technology is there and in mass production SE and Nokia have shown that it shouldn't raise the cost of the devices.

We shouldn't be so accepting about things like this ... it allows HTC to treat us with some contempt and encourages them to continue to do so.

All these devices they are bringing out ... long after the Snapdragon ... but still no sign of official support ... again ... getting people to buy last generation technology today. Are we forced to ... no ... but given their position in the market ... they still have no viable competition on the WM front ... they are exploiting that.

Sorry for the rant ....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Ciciban:
Hope this helps...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DaveShaw:
Some food for though...

If HTC remove the FM radio, at this late stage (after some devices with it have been released) will they keep the chipset's the same?

If so I'm sure some of the guys on here could get the Drivers for it working again...

If such a project is needed, count me in, I'm missing FM radio from my Kaiser :(

Dave
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ajbopp:
Speaking of rubbish...

Yes, I'm sure that this is precisely the reason HTC does these things. Market analysis, purchase trends, customer preferences research - all of these things are meaningless next to the opportunity to make their customers irritated and frustrated.

Define decent quality. I'm not sure what your gripe is here. Lack of a flash? OK, I can see that. But if you are complaining that you're not getting 30 FPS for your ad hoc videos, then HTC is just not the camera for you. Your priorities dictate the purchase of a different device. That's no reason to suggest that HTC is being intentionally annoying. They are making the decisions that will earn the highest sales for any given device in the markets for which they have seen they can effectively compete.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DaveShaw:
I read HTC somewhere (I forget where) that it will be removed because of battery life performance issues. HTC are still trying to make this a business phone (hence the conference calling and Straight Talk) so it makes sense that a business phone would benefit more from battery life than an FM radio.

Just my 2'cs :)

Dave
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cocoaju:
I have to ask this again. Why would a radio chip and software waste battery when it's not on? It just doesn't make sense. Please enlighten me!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DarkHorse:
any news?

it's weird to see the Radio feature still on the official italian specification web page ...but it's not anymore on the english page

:confused::confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] magius00:
It's Possible the FM radio stuff can cause interference with other devices in such a small space, meaning more power is needed to overcome any distortion.

There might even be a form of idle state it keeps itself in. Take the radio feature on the mp3 player next to me, it doesn't scan through like normal unless you force it to retune. It presets itself stations it can find gets RDS for them and names them and keeps track of it when not using the radio feature and more annoying it will do this when the whole device is in it's standby mode and will do so unless fully turned off.

Personally I believe it's just an oversight when they updated the battery spec on the UK HTC page as mass production is likely to have started and removing it last minuet would have likely been costly.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cocoaju:
I understand that if it's on standby mode, it may use up battery life. I mean if you leave software running in the background, it will run down your battery as well. So it's understandable.

But if you fully turned it off, it shouldn't kill battery life, cos it's not on, right? So, again, it doesn't make sense for battery life to lower, with or without the radio.

As you said, it could be HTC updating on the battery life spec because they got it wrong the first time round. And they thought the radio is no longer needed on this phone so they take it off as well.

I think this happened to the Samsung Omnia HD (not out till end of June) as well. GSM Arena just took another preview of it and some specs has changed prior to launch. They took the radio out as well.

So anything can happen until everything is set on launch date.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] visegrip72:
Just thought of a good reason to keep radio for business - GPS traffic data! GPS software use FM radio to receive the traffic data. if no radio, no traffic for GPS software.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cocoaju:
Apart from no Radio, I just saw a couple of videos from you tube on TP2 reviews, it looks like the zoon bar is missing too.

I checked HTC's website and their gallery still shows the zoom bar. The videos were uploaded this week as well. So unless they took the video a while back and just uploaded it now, it looks like we are missing more features.

European Version Video Review

Asia CNET Version Video Review

Hope this is my mistake.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cocoaju:
I just watched again and on the start of the video, I think I saw a glimpse of the zoom bar but never again afterwards. Maybe it's just so reflective, that I can't see the zoom bar. Maybe it is really me... being too imaginative :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] adolfotregosa:
european video at 3.36 min, it's there !!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cocoaju:
Ha! You are correct! I saw the glimpse. Super reflective screen makes it hard to see on the video.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Lyian:
which icont is it? i cant easily make out what one is the radio
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ajbopp:
I *think* they were talking about the zoom slider, not the radio.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Lyian:
Oh well pssh.. yea its there. He USES it when its looking though pitcures and even says it. its defiantly there.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cribeiro:
Has it or not FM radio?

I'm confused. Has it or not FM Radio? Please inform.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] galaxys:
It does per pdadb.net specs "Analog+Radio;Receiver: FM radio (87.5-108MHz) with RDS."

but, still could be different country / carrier versions...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cocoaju:
Shoot! Should of paid more attention. :D What non-sense I make. Sorry guys, for alarming you! I will look before I speak (write) next time!

Back to topic. The TP2 will be launched in Europe soon, some as early as end of the week (22 May 2009). So maybe some of those buyers can show us some light at the end of the tunnel. ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cribeiro:
May be latest update?

Do you think these are latest updates? If yes, there is FM radio in it.

http://www.prlog.org/10230488-htc-pro2-release-date-confirmed-htc-touch-pro-2-sim-free.html

http://blog.phoneslimited.co.uk/2009/03/19/htc-touch-pro2-htc-pro-2-review-htc-touch-pro-2-review/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DaveTheTytnIIGuy:
Well, even if the FM radio capability is removed, the FM radio is part of the chipset, and cannot be physically removed. An example of this would be the AT&T version of the Touch Pro; If I remember correctly, the FM Radio was disabled on the first stock ROM, but a stock ROM update enabled it, because the device had the proper hardware all along.

So it's essentially a software/driver thing to get the radio working, and we already have other devices with identical hardware and radio software/drivers, so I'm confident that some of the brilliant minds here at XDA could get it working in no time, even if it was disabled by default on the TP2.

Dave
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cocoaju:
YEAH! :D I can't wait!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Elchico:
Looks like there is RADIO!! ^^

According to Pocketnow.com:

"Yes, the TP2 has an FM Radio. You must connect a headset to get that to work."

http://discuss.pocketnow.com/showthread.php?threadid=27273
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] quarintus:
In the discussion connected to the review, the creator says he made a mistake and there isn't a radio.

(btw, it seems they reviewed a prerelease version since they made this mistake, and just waited before putting it online... If that's true it's not very reliable. As they say the battery has a short lifetime, that maybe not true either than.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Hamburg:
Check the other posts people. It has been confirmed...

TP2 HAS AN FM RADIO!!

The hardware is still there, but for some reason they got rid of the software (maybe due to a glitch that affects battery life), but someone (adolfotregosa) created a cab that will reactivate it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DaveShaw:
And for that reason I'll close this thread. (See the stickies for the CAB).

Go and enjoy the radio ;)

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] branedge:
Does anyone know of a windows dial tab app like spb mobile shell 2?

i want to assign my left soft button to the dial tab so it pull up a full screen of contacts pictures...

i haven't had any luck finding anything. does anyone have any ideas?

thanks
[General Questions and Answers] wolframio74:
any knows what its the file that call the link on about control panel, i mean where the os version, device id., and copyrights are display, its a exe, cpl or something? thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] darthbane2k:
I cant see any update thread, but was wondering how close we are to a final or at least stable version running (albeit unofficially) on the Touch HD?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Digital Outcast:
Well, Steve Ballmer (CEO of Microsoft) last announced that WM 6.5 is due to be officially "kicked off" on May 11th at the TechEd conference. As far as when we will get it and such there is really no telling ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] -fluffy-:
does anyone know if the raphael rom works on a diamond

to be more specefict

can i take a raphael rom and flash it on my diamond
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] krogoth:
No, You can't.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mobilkungen78:
are you joking they are a bit diffrent from one to another

if you do tha you´ll brick youre diamond
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] robear18:
I thought that there was no 3g coverage in my area, but i have recently discovered that there is and a friend of mine has 2,7mbps whereas i have 140kbps. I can see the 3g and H icon only for a few seconds,when i turn my phone on,then they disappear and i go through the conection setup, and i get the G(gprs?) icon for a few seconds and then the E(edge ) icon but no H or 3g. Im stuck at low speeds and though i have enabled the HDSPA it didnt help.What should i do?

Im thinking of flashing a new radio version..
[Touch HD General] mr london:
When im on opera browser i get above message, and cant open anything!

does anyone know what to do to fix this??

Paul.
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
Close one of the tabs you have open first and then try and open something else.

Alternatively to increase amount of tabs:

Start Opera, type the following into the address bar opera:config

Find "User Prefs"

Find "Max Allowed Tabs". Set the value as you want.

Or open the opera.ini file in \Windows\Opera\ and add the following line under the [User Prefs] section:

"Maximum Allowed Tabs=X"
[Touch HD General] Svegetto:
I believe it's somewhere in the opera:config (accessed via opera url) under user pref. A google search for opera mobile config should tell you how to access it.

.... I did it for you, here's a link:

http://www.nirmaltv.com/2009/01/21/how-to-increase-number-of-tabs-in-opera-mobile/

(and lol, by the name of this url, I'm gonna guess you never searched this....plz use search before posting)
[Touch HD General] mr london:
Ok (sorry), Thanks very much guys.

Paul.
[Touch HD General] p3eps:
Found my answer - and posted in my own thread
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] itje:
A winmo 6.5 rom with t-mob rhodium manila and Topaz apps

CE OS 5.2.21222 (Build 21222.5.0.1)​

--This is a Public Beta--​

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If you dont like what I do with the rom, dont make comments that will only embarrass yourself.​

Thx to:

Bepe

Ervius

Ameet

OliNex

Jackleung

Conflipper

Noonski

All you who have donated​

Special thx to my Touch-IT team:

Fards, great problemsolver, thx for helping bro.

akp99, for mods on opera, problem solving..thx bro..

m@rko, bugreports and suggesting fixes..thx bro​

You guys really made it easier for me to make this rom​

Extra special thx to:

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All my friends/users/fans using my work​

To others I might have forgotten: sorry...​
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] itje:
Download

Before you download, read here:

-Update to my roms and hard-spl at your own risk, I'm not responsible for any damage to your X1.

-Dont start yelling about the rom is useless (Or similar) just because a feature you use is not working. That is to me really demoralising to read, and it most

certainly dont encourage me to respond to your issues.

-Dont complaint about why I remove this or that. Or why I dont add this or that.

-Have respect for ppl who contribute to the members of XDA

-Do not sell this software on E-bay or other places

-I really spend alot of time working on this. Donations is not required, but is much appreciated.

-I do NOT respond to bugreporting on pm or via email/msn, ask in the thread. If someone has time, knowlege and patience, they might help you ;)

Any donation given for the time I use on this is appreciated, so pls use link above my banner.

Download Touch-IT 6.5 with Manila:

-MegaUpload
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] itje:
How to get the Touch-IT Xperience:

Hard-SPL is needed if you wanna flash custom roms

-Info on Hard-SPL here

My tips on how to flash a custom rom:

-Do not let battery be below 50%

-Keep the device on a secure location (so that it wont fall and loose connection to your pc during flash)

-Enter bootloader (rainbowscreen) pressing power button and volume down simultaneously (hold the buttons untill you enter bootloader)

-Connect to pc (activesync)

-Run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe and follow onscreen instructions

Please read here to get the best xperience with my roms

-Do a Hard-reset after flashing is done

-Wait with installing any apps/progs until you have tested the performance and stability of the rom.

-Tweaks and regedits are allready set to max up the performance, if you install tweaking cabs or other performance cabs, they might not

work well with this rom, and can ruin the performance of the rom.

-Before reporting bugs, try think before you post; is it related to something you have altered?

-Missing programs is not a bug. I do not wish to have comments on why this and that are missing. Get a cab..

Flash via micro-sd method

-Originaly posted by Jackleung

-Make sure x1 is hard-spl first

-Make sure your micro-sd is formatted w/ fat-32

-rename the image file (normally "ruu_signed.nbh") to Kovsimg.nbh, copy that to the micro-sd, and put that on your X1's sd-card

-Bring x1 to boot-loader mode by turning off the x1 completely. Hold the "volume down" button on the right, and hold the power on button until you see the tri-color screen.

-Then follow the on-screen instruction
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] itje:
My rantings...

-Please dont ask why this or that theme is not in the rom...its just so...pointless...!

-I have put what I wanted in the rom, if you dont like themes, skins or w/e..do a search..find another theme/skin. install it...and dont whine about the choice I made on colors etc...

-Search the thread for the answers, or search the forums if you cant find it...The issues you have is not so special, im sure others have the same, or have had the same issue...
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] mcbyte_it:
i'll be waiting for it, thanks to you itje i am used to use the manila that i don't want to use WinMo 6.5 if it's not there, even though that i saw winmo 6.5 have some nice things (not talking about it's home screen) i didn't put it yet :D
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] newstar:
wow

Your work is also very very very best

we love your hardworking

God bless you

we love you

waiting :)))

regards
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] itje:
rom is posted...first public beta of this rom
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Jonny4911:
downloading now :D

EDIT: Downloaded, and flashed!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] XperiaX1_hoa:
My X1 up now:D
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] jianwei87:
i would like to ask why the top of the button are so close with the "close" button
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Jonny4911:
it's win mo 6.5 problem!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] GOKILL:
should i try?? tell me
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Gilg@mesh:
any "bugs" you can tell us about? thanks
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] romeo0119:
You dare me? I will flash it now :-) Thanks

BTW why did you use manila from Tmobile Rhodium? Why not use the same one from your v7 Touch it rom?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Jonny4911:
i believe the t-mob. manila is more stable/has better facebook integration etc

this is also in the new Touch it 7+ ROM
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ninja.rogue:
@ itje

except for manila, how does this rom differ from your latest 6.5 one?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Tuncal:
Trying it out...works perfect!

Thanks Itje
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] fards:
this is built on 21222 which is the 6.5 sys build from the htc twin.

so it's newer.. and faster.

manila slows it a bit, as usual, but it's still quick.

I found a few bugs in 222 build, but itje has a different one, so I'm keen to try it as a base for further experiments.

Overall though :

it has all the goodies from V7+ on a 6.5 base.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] himuraken:
i love to have the 6.5 start menu with tf3d. i just hope this one is just as fast as itjes other roms which i don't doubt will be.:)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] meptik:
Thank you, itje!

I've been playing around with this for a few hours now, and I must say it's impressive. It feels very, very fast!

I had it crash twice when switching directly from Titanium to TouchFLO 3D, but couldn't reliably reproduce this. This was after installing TitaniumWeather and AppStar Favorite People Plug-in, so not sure if it was related to anything originally in the ROM.

Other than that, didn't notice any bugs so far.

From what I can see, this ROM doesn't come with Chainfire's GfxBoost cooked in. If I remember you did include it in Touch-IT v7 Final. Any reason it's not in this one? Supposedly it benefits performance of both Titanium and Manila.

Definitely not complaining, just curious. In any case, I'll install it and see for myself ;)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] MykeChester:
Been using this for a few days now and...getting really impressed...very minor problems...but can live with it...only one thing, does anyone having issue with the htc FM Radio?

Edit: Ok...same issue as before...solved it
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] pekvocey:
impressed, fast, lovely rom.. :)

ahh, After I installed the TF3D Panel, I cannot load the TF3D on this panel.

+ Due to the tf3d in this rom, I only installed the TF3D Panel.

+ Then, uncheck TF3d in Today Settings & Soft-Reset.

+ Load TF3D panel, but it only shows white screen with "LOADING"
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Mr.UAE:
i can not download from MegaUpload ?? -__-
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] MykeChester:
Why would you install TF3D Panel on this ROM???:confused:
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Cutefox:
use tf detacher.. then map show and hide tf3d to any of the buttons.. you dont need panels for it..
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] pekvocey:
Coz sometimes I wanna use Titanium for simple, sometimes TF3D; so better way is to attach two to two panels :)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] MykeChester:
Just Go to settings...today...Items...then uncheck windows default or touchFlo 3D...it would be much healthier on your mobile...stop torturing your Xperia
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] fards:
no it's not, its an appalling way of trying to do it.

press start.settings.today.items.

much quicker. much more efficient, and it works!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Cutefox:
i think my way of using TFdetacher is still the best way to do it.. =P hey guys is there anyway to speed up the keyboard typing? no matter with any rom wm6.1 or 6.5 i find the keybaord very slow.. u can type on it and watch sumtin then it would still be typin it out..
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] diime:
someone plz tell me da default fingure pressure n pressure threshold for this ROM !! my touchscreen now workin NOW !!