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[Touch HD General] nocomp:
hi,

i am using the htc hd as modem,everything works fine with the user agent changend in firefox.

one prob, when i try to reach http://live.vodafone.com/tv (wich is the link of the portal i use with the htc hd) i don t get the cassic webpage but a weird xml file.

is it possible to watch the live tv using illimmityc as modem with a htc hd?

thxx for helping
[Touch HD General] johnpatcher:
Why do you have to change the User-Agent when you are actually using Firefox? If you are using your HTC Touch HD as modem the web should be just normal.

The only way determine whether you are using a mobile phone as modem is to check your IP ...
[G1 Android Development] chrisharang:
I've searched everywhere, but I can't find any mention of this. In the past JF builds, the CIFS kernel module was included, so it was possible to mount samba shares. It doesn't appear to be in any of the 1.5 ROMs. Does anyone know if this is because of an inherent incompatibility, or if it was just left out for other reasons?

- Chris
[G1 Android Development] zrubi:
Maybe it hasn't been compiled in the kernel as a module.

Did you tried the "find" command in order to find it?

If you can't find it at all ask the ROM Builder to compile the kernel with cifs, smbfs and nfs support so you have all the modules inside.
[G1 Android Development] billc.cn:
in the old 1.1 builds, JF compiled a bunch of useful linux kernel modules in /system/modules (actually it's a rom image loop-mounted to that folder). as the new roms are not built by JF, they obviously won't be there. however, i hope someone could compile those for the new kernel once the official build is out.
[G1 Android Development] chrisharang:
... and to answer my own question in case anyone searches on this, in JF 1.5, the author was awesome enough to once again include cifs in the cramfs image that mounts on /system/modules. Thanks, JF!
[XPERIA X1 General] spikegotti:
Not sure if anyone else found this, but in the Windows Directory you will find an app called TFSettings, this app enables sound when finger scrolling and panning :D
[XPERIA X1 General] Firefall!:
Yeah I knew about this. But the sound is not very cool, is it? We'd have to replace it with something more appropriate.
[General Questions and Answers] Haad:
hey guys is there any application which can turn on the pda by pressing and hardware buttons .? my pda doesnot have that options in settings.
[General Questions and Answers] orb3000:
It would help a lot to know what device you have:eek:

Normally on my Universal I just press the on/off hardware button and voila
[General Questions and Answers] netnerd:
go to hkey_current_user/controlPanel/keybd/

change DefaultKeyLock = 0

now u can turn on pdaPhone with any hardware key!
[General Questions and Answers] Haad:
there is no default keylock in keybd folder.

there are default, initial delay and repeat rate.
[General Questions and Answers] Haad:
the device is a not htc made, imate jaq3.
[General Questions and Answers] netnerd:
try adding DWORD DefaultKeyLock = 0

or get new phone! haha
[General Questions and Answers] Haad:
lol ive tried adding dword defaultkeylock 0.. but nothing.. i am just askin is there an application..?? can this option be extracted from another rommaybe wizards? or prophets.?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] twolf:
Would it be possible to have a text tab to read all your SMS's?

Something close to the M2D/M3D SMS tab:

The CHome and CText tabs already do something very close to that when you receive a new message:

It -should- be as simple as re-using that, but I cant find any clue of how that is displayed... :(

OR if we could use flash inside the Titanium tabs (sigh) it would just take message2reg.exe to display them... :/
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bstylz911:
i would like to see this
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] richabi:
I need to bump this. Hopefully someone capable will see this
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] strages:
ill bump for this one too.. would be greatly appreciated.. also for email ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] atzaus:
this needs a bump..swiping to view next message would be cool
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sn123:
There is a limit to number of pages a plugin can display, so showing all the messages is definitely out but you should be able to show something like "Most Recent n unread Messages" (~n<20). Would require hooking into State & Notification Broker to get notified for new messages as they arrive.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] atzaus:
even last 10 would do t for me and if there are more maybe it could display "tap for more"
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Cutefox:
i would bump for this too.. something missing out of current titanium..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] xternal:
Any progress on this. I too would love to see it.

Would be great if it was expanded view like in the WM7 theme so you can read more of the message, and simply flicking left or right goes to previous/next message. Then the soft keys are compose new and view all messages. Clicking on that particular message takes you to that message thread.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] chriscsh:
:D

i have this under testing
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] squa89:
Looks promising!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] xternal:
Wicked! let me know if you need testers
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ou2mame:
i would love to be able to swipe through different users in the order of the last message received, per thread, with a pic of the person above it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mr.jaguar:
oh hot damn!! that'll rock!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] anagarika:
If you need tester, please pm me.. ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] claus1953:
That is it exactly... hope you have the options in it for replay, mark as read, delete etc.

Looks very very nice
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] alekbo:
YES YES YES :-)))

replay, mark as read, delete

and yes i would like be tester ;-)

(diamond and HD)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] cdmccul:
Kaiser owner bumping and offering to test!
[XPERIA X1 General] hazart:
Thank you for carrying out such an informative research, dude!
[XPERIA X1 General] jackleung:
Since you are on it, can you install HomeScreen plus plus and compare how accurate is the consumption reported by the software. http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_batterystatus_xda_neo_wm5_im_cs.htm
[XPERIA X1 General] DaHiA:
Would you consider trying "auto adjust backlight" among your valuable research criteria

Also, maybe G-Profile and bluetooth file transfer 1MB, 5MB

Thank you
[XPERIA X1 General] Sfkn2:
Thanks for the info!! Can you also try loading something with Opera Mini and see if it eats less power compared to the other browsers? Thanks!
[XPERIA X1 General] Bennieficial:
some really useful info here, thanks! just as DaHiA asked, could u try measuring it with auto backlight on vs. like 30%-50% brightness?
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
Yeah - i'll do all of those at some point :D
[XPERIA X1 General] mzoran:
tnx for the info comeradealexi..
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
Just installed it and it is not very accurate - Its too low most of the time
[XPERIA X1 General] jackleung:
Slow is expecting since it's polling the system too frequently would waste too many cpu cycle. But how accurate it is if we wait for let's say a 10 sec period?
[XPERIA X1 General] Firefall!:
Can you please test the following:

All apps Closed

Screen Off

GPRS On

(WiFi/BT OFF)

I'm interested in the power consumption when nothing is happening AND when Outlook is auto-checking E-mails (You can set Outlook to regularily check your e-mails).

And what would also be very interesting is power consumption of Garmin Mobile XT while navigating, with both screen off and on.

Thank you for your very helpful information!
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
well when checking for mail before it was around 50 and the screen takes up about 0.03 so i dont think it will be much less but i will check
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
also btw I dont have Garmin XT :S - do you know if it is free or not??
[XPERIA X1 General] Firefall!:
Garmin can be downloaded from here: http://www.garmin.com/support/collection.jsp?product=010-11034-00 However it needs a Key and a Map (I believe you can download 1 local map for free). I can give you the KG if you want to install it, but I don't want to cause you too much trouble. But the other thing with constant e-mail polling would be nice to know!
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
I'll download all these applications ready to test later today

@firefall: dw i'll get it working fully -

ALso this time i will take my test outside and test the gps and how much juice that sucks!
[XPERIA X1 General] Firefall!:
Thank you :) Can't wait for the results!
[XPERIA X1 General] remixtech:
Thanks for those great informations ;)
[XPERIA X1 General] THE GRIZZ:
amazing

GREAT WORK. if you add more info, it should be stickied as its really really useful to far too many people especially cookers

a few requests and questions that are worth doing if you can and if you have time

1- how did you do the setup. i would like to do the same

2- keep updaTING the first post

3- can you test mobile shell 3. many are complaining about battery life

4- can you do a youtube video so we get a better idea about the overall battey usage of applications.

5- can you test the diference between edge and HSDPA battery usage.

6- can you test with different roms.

7- can you test streaming youtube video with wifi/hsdpa/edge

8- at somepoint in the future you may want to test total power over

9- test with pushmail enabled/disabled
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
I've updated with a few more things - i'll get more - if you have any more requests then let me know
[XPERIA X1 General] CowMix:
could you do tests when using parlingo, I always feel like my battery is dying extremely quickly when I have it running, thanks :)
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
Okay sure - are you using it with wifi or data?
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
Done and updated - if your chatting a lot its using up more juice than watching a movie but at idle its lower - i only had one contact so if you have more i'm sure it would suck even more juice at idle but i've never used palringo so i just added my self - still it sucks a lot of juice at idle - i will test live mesenger to compare
[XPERIA X1 General] jcsxda:
Wow -incredibly useful for everyone ...thanks so much for this great research!!

A couple of requests -could you test S2U2 as there have been recurring battery drain issues (though v1.65beta2 hotfix seems to have fixed it for many)

And then maybe G-Alarm -especially at midnight as it seems to wake up the phone...
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
i think windows mobile turns on the screen at 12 to check something? unless you mean something else - anyways - i will check out s2u2
[XPERIA X1 General] netvlada:
For comeradealexi

Please test homescreen plus because on idle on 8 hours at night,with all power saving metod, i have 70 % bat.When i delite homescreen on same 8 hours setings my bat is 100%.
[XPERIA X1 General] CowMix:
I'm using data, I assume wifi would drain even faster

idle is with the screen off right? no wonder my battery dies so much quicker with parlingo running, but I guess its still better then most other messengers in terms of battery consumption.

Thanks for the tests, they were very informative!

P.S. oops its palringo, I've been calling it by the wrong name lol
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
oh ye palringo - soz lol

that Idle is WITH the screen on - i didnt do it with the screen off - when i next do some tests i will do it with the screen off
[XPERIA X1 General] Firefall!:
ThX for your interesting results! Can you add GPRS on, everything else off INCLUDING the screen. I would like to know the difference between GPRS on and off when screen is off ;)
[XPERIA X1 General] XavierGr:
Why did you choose to take measurements in Amperes instead of milli Amperes? The mA scale is more proper for details in these kind of measurements.

Maybe it has to do with the multimeter that you are using. I have the same and it sucks because fused, it can measure up to 200mA. Then you can use it unfused for up to 10A which is like counting drops with a bucket!

Sorry to ruin it for you guys but in order to be sure better equipment is needed. This particular multimeter (that I am seeing in the picture) is very very cheap (crafty nonetheless).

EDIT: Yup examining the picture more carefully you do exactly what I said. Unfused 10A scale. This scale doesn't give you enough detail for precise measurements.
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
it is still quite acurate though

plus the multimeter would have to measure mA up to 850 and i havent seen any of them
[XPERIA X1 General] XavierGr:
Find a state on the phone where the consumption is lower than 200mA, then measure it with fused 200mA followed by unfused 10A scale. I find alarming differences.
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
Okay i'll do that - what connections do i need to make
[XPERIA X1 General] XavierGr:
Nothing more is needed really.

Just make a measurement with the 200mA scale. Your phone should be (e.g) in idle state where no more than 200mA is needed; you don't want your multimeter to overflow and show the generic '1'. (Red multimeter cable should be in the middle hole)

Then make the same measurement (with the phone on the exact same state as before) with the 10A unfused scale (Red multimeter cable in the upper hole).

If both measurements are close then you shouldn't worry.

I've never measured my X1's current consumption with a multimeter but with other circuits I had surprises with this multimeter and its vastly differentiated current scales.
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
I've got it set to the middle one and it wont even let the phone turn on - does it still have to be in series?
[XPERIA X1 General] CowMix:
Is there a big difference in battery usage when using edge vs 3g?
[XPERIA X1 General] VanAuberjim:
Is the SE Panel measurment done on auto-brightness screen on, or screen off?
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
On - at the top of the section it shows the current settings which i used for the tests below
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
Well for me it wont turn on using the middle one - these results must be pretty accurate and give you a good idea of what is sucking the most juice
[XPERIA X1 General] XavierGr:
Maybe you burned the fuse and this scale can't take measurements any longer without replacing the fuse.
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
fuse wire doesnt look broken but i will replace and check it.
[XPERIA X1 General] THE GRIZZ:
did it ever get fixed?

if not, it was fun while it lasted
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
Nope - not yet anyway - still the results show roughly what consumes most
[XPERIA X1 General] DJGonzo:
Sorry to bring this thread up, but could you run some tests on how much juice S2P and Sense 2.5 suck up? This is really a good thing. Thanks
[General Questions and Answers] noeinstein:
Hi there, I am trying to free up some main storage in my wifes Asus P320.

When i was browsing through the windows folder i found appx. 300 files named install.*.ruk. These files takes up appx. 3Mb. I tried to open one in rescoe explorer but could not read the output.

Does anyone know if this files are safe to delete and what they do?

Thanks in advance for any help

Noeinstein
[G1 Android Development] haykuro:
Okay, now that you're all curious.. :p

This thread will sum up quickly the last month of hard work, and who deserves the credit. Everyone who deserves serious rep will be in bold, anyone who deserves acknowledgement will be in italics.

- xmoo and his source release a leaked copy of the HTC Magic "system" folder.

- xda members start to frantically get the system folder to boot.

- I go on the forums and try to persuade everyone to listen to me and fail to get anyone to care.

- I decide to take it into my own hands and get that m.f. to run. :P

* build 4 is released (builds 1,2, and 3 were in house builds until i made the build somewhat usable.)

- barakinflorida suggests that i put open home as the default home application to give you guys a GUI.

* build 4.5 is released

- After 2 days I received an OTA update while testing the 4.5 build and manage to track down where HTC is releasing updates.

- Playing with it for a bit I ported the first successful cupcake build.

* build 5.0 is released

- Some days go by for fixing bugs and sorting stuff out.

- dream_kill shows me how the boot works on the device, and how to fix wifi/bluetooth (simply changing something from sapphire to trout).

- fnord, Darkrift, and I work out how to get apps to sd working on cupcake (cupcake uses vold instead of mountd)

* this is now at build 5.0.1

- an anonymous tipster gives me the system directory to another build based on the vodaphone magic.

- I port that over to the dream again

* G build is released

- Daproy starts building kernels for me with built in ext2 and other goodies, bringing easier apps to sd and other nice features.

- At this point everything is pretty much going pretty smooth, I got a new SPL, new radio, and cupcake is running pretty much on everyones phone. (this was my initial goal, give cupcake to the community :))

some days go by...

- Dude compiles the latest cupcake build from source and uses Daproy's, and my, boot image and other pieces (refer to his thread for what exactly) to have a nice working source based build.

- HTC releases ADP 1.5

- I mod ADP 1.5 and release the "root" build.

* ADP1.5H (yes the H stands for haykuro, not HTC.)

- Daproy cooks up a multi-touch kernel for the ADP builds.

- JesusFreke helps me through my compiler troubles and builds the multitouch browser.

* ADP1.5Hr3

this is pretty much it guys. no need to argue.

Me and Dude are friends, he has been very understanding and asks my permission before using any of the parts of my builds.

This is a developers community, and open source supportive.

I want to take a second and make sure everyone understands none of what we have today would be possible if it wasn't for 4 main players.

xmoo releasing the HTC image.

me porting the image.

Daproy building those wonderful kernels.

JesusFreke lending a hand when needed.
[G1 Android Development] notxel21:
I want to thank everyone mentioned above for all of the hard work!!!

Much Appreciated!!!!:D:D:D

Haykuro = greatness!!:D
[G1 Android Development] cl2eep:
Thanks for posting this Hayruko. Those of us that have been following from the beginning (I started with 4.5G) or close to it knew this timeline pretty well, but there seems to be some misconceptions out there now that 1.5 has exploded. Many might think this is a pointless thread, but I like that someone is finally standing up and saying that this isn't a competition between You, Dude, and JF, working fervently to have the best build, but a collaboration between you all and many other hardworking devs, to give us all the best homebrew ROMs available. I wish everyone would stop the "Which is better" or "Just wait until JF gets involved, he'll kill Hayruko's stuff" discussions, pick a build that suits them, and be happy. There's plenty of cupcakes to go around.
[G1 Android Development] tehseano:
Definatly a big thanks to everyone. I don't know what drives some members to shun ANYONE, not just those above for optionally helping them. The idea of Open Source is to help spread knowledge from everyone to everyone. The greatest learning experience. Yourself and among countless others have helped evolve the use of Android and the G1, and there isn't a single person on this forum that shouldn't be grateful for the hard work and countless hours you've slaved to do this work on your own time.

I'm sorry we have some of the members we do here, but on behalf of those that don't wish to speak their names and hide in the darkness.

THANKYOU!!!!!
[G1 Android Development] davil124:
thank you guys for all the hard work u guys done for us ! XDA DEVELOPERS #1 FORUM ! GOGOGO !
[G1 Android Development] MrADeveci:
That's actually an interesting build ........... well done guys (& girls?)

Love the work you bring to the community here!
[G1 Android Development] dkb218:
There is no "I" in T-E-A-M!!

Great work! Really Great Work...
[G1 Android Development] Gunnygt49:
Arigato gozaimasu
[G1 Android Development] Darkrift:
What a liar!! I did most of the work, haykuro just took all my credit.

/me hides
[G1 Android Development] johnnylicious:
you guys should get together and open an android company and develope more software for android and get paid =D
[G1 Android Development] savethechicken:
It is awesome all the hard work that you all have put in on the bettering of this device. Much Appreciated, Thank you!
[G1 Android Development] t1h5ta3:
Awsom work guys! Helping each other is what's goning realy help throw the apples and windows out. I've been folowing all of the android news for about 6 monts waiting for my old contract to be up.

It sounds like this is stable enough now, ill be updating tonight. I can't wait.
[G1 Android Development] All~G1:
People who do this get killed by GOOGLE "thugs" :D

On a serious note.... Thanks to all who have contributed to the advancement of android!
[G1 Android Development] twism50:
You guys are all amazing. Thanks for all your hard work.
[G1 Android Development] atlmatt:
Maybe you dont understand what open source means, The whole point of android was a open source projects that would remain open and free. Any TRUE open source developer knows and understands this and does the work not to get paid, But to help out a community. Yes there is a way to make money, And yes some people are making money from their apps, But that was never the point of a open source community, People contributed for the common good of the community not to get rich... But i am a capitalist and understand the all mighty dollar...
[G1 Android Development] knight4linux:
Lol @ darkrift. Agreed w/all above. Someone recently (don't remember who) brought up how roms are cooked for other HTC phones...and the fact that there are tons of customs for those w/ unique apps for each. We should be celebrating these guys with thanks for providing each something different to the open source community.

Ps. Tehseano I like your new sig.
[G1 Android Development] elcanela:
To all devs who participated.....

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR AWESOME WORK!!!! Thank you all for your knowledge & watermelon sized cojones (each), for flashing the first releases & being fearless of the outcome, as well as moving forward at a blazing speed. I sincerely thank you for your hard work, and for making me look cool by being the first person around that I know with a working video camera on their G1!!!!
[G1 Android Development] Gimpeh:
First and foremost I would to say THANK YOU to all involved.

Second; I imagine you guys are using IRC to keep in constant contact? If not I suggest we put together a IRC room for this board so all can idle, and discuss ideas.
[G1 Android Development] AbsoluteDesignz:
Thank all of you guys...loving my G1 even more...personally I don't know how much I'd like my phone if not for all the mods.

Keep up the great work.

Can't wait until you guys begin compiling 100% custom builds...muahahahhahah...one can hope.
[G1 Android Development] chamelieon:
thanks so much guys! it just cant be said enought how much your work is appreciated.. i hated my g1 like a mofo, now i cant think of having any other phone!
[G1 Android Development] stogchris81:
its truly a shame that this thread had to be started. i loved haykuros g build. the only reason i decided not to use it was the market stopped working on it so i tried out dudes aosp+adp1.5 build and fell in love.

some guy shows up acting like dude broke some copyright law without any info even though anyone who has kept up with Dudes thread knows that dude has given thanks to haykuro and anyone else all along the way.

I admire both Haykuro and theDudeoflife for having the ambition and knowledge to improve an already great os.