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[G1 Android Development] dkb218:
Okay, this isn't working for me... I have successfully done the operation twice. First time I used 750MB part. Everything was working fine! Without a couple of days, everything went to hell. Lock ups. Force closures of apps that weren't even open, rebooting on its own...etc.

So I repartitioned and use a 200 MB part. Within a week, the same thing. Is there something in this method that has to be cleared every now and then to get this thing working correctly?

Is there a better way to do apps2sd? My device is damn near useless at this point.
[G1 Android Development] MarcusMaximus04@gmail.com:
"mount data" and "rm /data/app"(not the spacing there) should be on different lines. Also it should be "cp /sdcard/init.rc /data/".
[G1 Android Development] MarcusMaximus04@gmail.com:
Hmm haven't experienced that, though 200MB might be a bit on the small side. What class sd card are you using? Also have you tried using ~1GB for the ext2 size?
[G1 Android Development] MarcusMaximus04@gmail.com:
Can it come up without the SD card in it? At any rate, if you're going to be hacking your phone using the methods here(xda developers in general) I'd really recommend having an sd card reader for just such situations.
[G1 Android Development] dkb218:
Using a 8 GB class 6. So your telling me that a 1 GB ext2 works better that a 200MB ext2?
[G1 Android Development] diset16:
Help needed

I used apps2sd for about a week or two and I unmounted my card and put a new one in, it didint work so I put the old one back. My phone was working fine for a few hours then it just shut off. Now when I do apps2sd the apps go to my sd card but I cant see them on my phone they just disappear. What can I do to fix this? :confused:
[G1 Android Development] MarcusMaximus04@gmail.com:
Have you restarted the phone?
[G1 Android Development] MarcusMaximus04@gmail.com:
Well, not that it works better, but if you run out of space in it I'm not really sure how the phone would react since it's not really expecting you to be using the sd card for apps.
[G1 Android Development] diset16:
yes, multiple times
[G1 Android Development] gurugabe:
major help needed please

Been using a2sd perfectly for awhile now. Had to wipe my phone, installed again cp init.rc and a2sd.sh 2 system/intmem and /data just as I have done in the past. But now it does not work. All apps are still being installed to system mem. Tried wiping and installing multiple times but same. Help. Jf 1.5 g1
[G1 Android Development] rhynoblade:
Hey this is working fine for me but just wondering if anything can go wrong if you take out your memory card. U see I tried this with a 1gb card and now want to move on to a bigger 1.
[G1 Android Development] Thats BS:
Wipe and redo the process.
[G1 Android Development] MarcusMaximus04@gmail.com:
First: How have you verified that apps are installing to internal memory? Do they appear under /system/intmem/app?

Second: Do you have a /system/sd/app directory? Without this all apps will install to internal memory.

Third: What shows up if you run my appstosd2 app(if you don't already have it, it's available on the first post, just extract the .apk file out of the .zip)?
[G1 Android Development] diset16:
I even reflashed rom, still the same thing happens the apps install to the card but do not show up on the phone.
[G1 Android Development] gurugabe:
Have no /system/intmem folder. /system/sd/app; app-private; dalcik-cache there but empty.. run appstosd 2 multiple times, system reboots and all is the same.
[G1 Android Development] somedude:
no. it won't go past the G1 splash even without a microSD card in it.
[G1 Android Development] xeric0321:
partiition thru the console option...

i partition my sdcard thru the console option in the recovery screen....i was using a 8g memory card, but afta the partition was completed, i looked in the sdcard setting to see my available space and etc....and i witness that my memory card space was at 1356 MB, so wat happened to the rest of tha 6800 something g of memory of the sdcard?
[G1 Android Development] bmj1086:
class 2

Is this a bad idea to do with a class 2 8gb card?
[G1 Android Development] Thats BS:
No, class2 works good, I have three cards, stock, 8g class2 and a 8g class6.

The class2 is still kicking along fine, I use it when I hop to Hero roms.
[G1 Android Development] Thats BS:
Are you on Cyanogens rom? If so, what does your partition space say?

You probably made the partition 6800mb by mistake.
[G1 Android Development] bmj1086:
apps not working

no idea why some apps aren't working but I have tried to install them several times

Digital Clock Widget com.maize.digitalClock

My Coupons mycoupons.update
[G1 Android Development] bmj1086:
Thanks. I have partitioned 512mb and I'm not really satisfied with it yet. Some apps aren't working. I tried to move them to internal memory and they just don't show up in apps2sd and terminal says they don't exist I tried installing several times. Also some apps I install and they don't even show up at all. I am using TheDudes latest ROM, Seriously thinking about moving to JF or another one
[G1 Android Development] Thats BS:
You have Cyanogen's recovery? If not get it, you can fix the file ext and upgrade to ext3 with it, then get his rom. It seriously rocks.
[G1 Android Development] bmj1086:
Okay man thanks. Ill try that when I get home. Hard to find help without the douchebagness anymore on here thanks =)
[G1 Android Development] xeric0321:
partition thru console....

Yes in on a cyan rom, and my secondary memory reads...total 446 n avali 371...so I don't understand y I lost a lot of space on my sdcard
[G1 Android Development] RuuDBoY:
i tried doing as you said, but when ever i type:

su

cp /sdcard/init.rc /data/

cp /sdcard/a2sd.sh /data/

and i reboot, my phone gets stuck in a bootloop and i have to do a master reset, i've done it at least four times already.

*Edit* i noticed that i can copy the "a2sd.sh" file w/ no problem, but once i copy the "init.rc" file, the phone gets stuck in the bootloop...
[G1 Android Development] bmj1086:
So far its working perfect. apps2sd is working good too. I haven't found an app that doesn't work so far. Ill stick with ext2 until I feel like I need to switch.

Thanks again for the help.
[G1 Android Development] noname4444:
I'm thinking about trying this for my phone and after a bit of research I have a question.

Is it possible to partition the card to ext3 instead of ext2 and have this app work? My question comes after reading some of this thread. Or do you have to start with ext2 and convert to ext3 after the fact?
[G1 Android Development] Jak Crow:
Anyone know if sd card installed apps are going to be official at some point for the OS or is it going to be dismissed over new devices just having more internal RAM?
[G1 Android Development] Thats BS:
I think with Marcus' app it does ext2 only, then you have to covert if you want. Really easy to covert with Cyanogen's recovery!

If you make an ext3 yourself you can go to Cyanogens rom and it will automatically do apps2sd to your ext3. You won't need to use this app that way.

"* Apps2SD is automatic! All you need is a second partition (ext)." -from Cyanogen's 1st page-
[G1 Android Development] jessem89:
im using a rogers htc dream

I run apps to sd, select how much i wanna format, and it just says done, i click the reboot nothing happens.

I tryed the commands and it didnt work says cp dosnt exist and what not

I have root access. Is their anyway I can have my apps installed to my sd card instead of internal memory on the rogers phone?

D
[G1 Android Development] klausa2:
su not working after appstosd

I followed the tutorial. Then I started appstosd2. Gor "superuser request" several times that I always allowd. Selected manage apps. Decided to manage them later and pressed Home. Went into Terminal Emulator. su. Statur bar shows "superuser request", screen stays blank. No screen with "allow", "deny" etc. appears. After waiting for 5 minutes I pressed Home. Tried to start appstosd2 again. Same result: status bar "superuser request" appeard, then nothing.

Any ideas what to do? How can I get root permissions if I cant issue the "su" command anymore? How can I fix that problem?

Otherwise all went well, free memory shows 680 MB now. But I did not move any apps to sd yet - I think.
[G1 Android Development] Putrid186:
Plug device into USB cable - make sure the other end is plugged into computer..:D

Use Home+Power to get to your recovery page.

Use Alt+X to open the console.

use command :

ums_enable

that will mount your SD card and allow you to move files to/fro, allowing you to use your update.zip

You can use command:

ums_disable to un-mount.
[G1 Android Development] amihov:
Apps to Sd on rooted htc dream rogers

Is it possible to run this on rooted htc dream from rogers?

At this moment i have TA utility installed and running. This program moved my cash for browser market place Gmaps street view and g mail and steel cache to sd. In the app it is said that revert is impossible i gues that i have to wipe the phone in order to restore it to original.

If anybody has any idea please let me know.

Thank you

Alex
[G1 Android Development] avallark:
Just a thought, i was partitioning the hard drive the other day and put the ext2 partition as the first partition assuming since its the most accessed for apps2sd, it'd be way faster if it were the first drive.

now the spl bootloaders wont allow update cos sdcard is mapped to mmcblk0p1 which is now my ext2 partition. I was always under the impression that the initial sectors of an hdd are faster to access, if so, maybe its a good idea for bootloaders to rearrange the /sdcard mount point in fstab
[G1 Android Development] Kavin2468:
HELP ME PLEASE! I don't know what I did wrong. I had JF ADP 1.51 and I saw this so I tried to do it. I did not follow the steps for if I had used Apps2SD or not because I have not used it. Everything was working fine and I had about 1.5gigs of "internal" phone memory. I opened apps2sd and I clicked "Copy Apps to SD" while also having "Delete apps from internal memory" ticked. My phone restarted and now all of my apps that were on my desktop are no longer there, but have icons with names and the standard "file is not there" icon. Since I could not use Astro, I plugged in my phone only to find that my SD card *looks* empty. All I see are two folders named "data" and "tmp". All of my apps appear to be gone and I may have even lost su! Please help me, I'd rather not wipe!

I just found out that my computer doesn't recognize the other partition. My apps may still be alive! How can I retrieve them?
[G1 Android Development] avallark:
Yes , your windows machine will not recognize a etx2/ext3 partition. You either install drivers for ext2 partitions, or use partition manager or simply download an ubuntu desktop live cd and restart ur computer into linux. Ubuntu will recognize all ur partitions

If ubuntu doesnt, you can mount the partitions using

mkdir phone-1

mount phone-1 /dev/sdb3

mkdir phone-2

mount phone-2 /dev/sdb1

Now you can see both partitions.
[G1 Android Development] Kavin2468:
I do appreciate that, but how do I get the apps to work on my phone? Any new app I download works fine with the Apps2SD system but not alllll of my old ones! Many of which are quite important and I can't remember what they were
[G1 Android Development] lostman1027:
Aww dude I had no clue about this thanks! :)
[G1 Android Development] MarcusMaximus04@gmail.com:
Ya, try using the terminal emulator app that should already be on your phone(standard in most ROMs). In it do:

su

cd /system/sd

ls

if you don't get an error and anything shows up then it means you still have stuff on it("app" in particular should show up). You might also try this and make sure that "unionfs" shows up:

busybox df -h
[G1 Android Development] foxlin:
Thank you so much. This works great. Although I am experiencing one problem. Whenever i get a call, it says its from unknown, no matter who or when they call, and after the call or if i miss a call, it will show the name, and then a second later become "unknown". My call log is filled w/ "unknown", but the call log from b4 i did the apps2sd are prefectly fine. Anyone know how to fix this? All i want are the apps to the sdcard, i would rather have all the things like dalvik-cache on the fone still. Thanks for the help in advanced.
[G1 Android Development] Maneby:
Problem

EDIT: Got it all working now, thanks to some improvising!

The second problem solved itself when I got the JF 1.5 (instead of the official devphone cupcake). Apps to SD didn't change the contact status at all.

Old message:

Hi!

I'm following the tutorial for noobs, and everything worked fine until the reboot after the first partitioning. The reboot never ends, it gets stuck at the screen with the green android-man. I tried removing the battery on the G1 and then booting again, with the same result.

I'm using the JFv1.51, which I installed some hours ago.

I would appreciate your help with this, as I've got no idea what do to.

Thanks in advance!

Actually, I got that problem 2 weeks ago, without even having started with these risky operations. Don't know how to solve it.
[G1 Android Development] Jak Crow:
I'm running with a 16GB class 6 micro sd card, and a 300MB ext3 part for the apps. I'm running into some irritating problems with the apps on the sd.

I run into a problem where all apps that are currently running, the app I'm using and anything that's running in the backgroup, pop up the Force Close / Wait window. This could be 4 apps all at the same time for instance. It seems like something is intermittently interrupting the storage system. Is this a problem with the sdcard? Or is this something to expect from apps on the sdcard?
[G1 Android Development] Maneby:
Apps2SD

I have a 16 GB MicroSD class 2, which works good, it might be the difference in speed between class 2 and class 6 that causes you trouble?
[G1 Android Development] miketaylor00:
It does sound like your storage device is becoming unavailable. I get this same problem sometimes when I mount my SD card to my computer. I have an 8GB class 6 card and I have never had this problem unless I did something to make the SD card unavailable to the OS. It might be something with your SD card.
[G1 Android Development] raz334:
Cupcake JF1.5 Rooted, overclocked, Apps2SD, Cache2SD -> No Market Place !!

phone was rooted with cupcake jf1.5 and cache2sd and overclock widget set 128-527 prior to moving apps2 sd using the following guide http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=512743

after moving the apps and the dalvik-cache apps to sd now the google maps fails to work at all, and more impotantly the market place doesnt work, when i launch the market place it "Fails to connect to server" after several "Retry" attempts it force closes with no option to wait.

Please Assist

*** SOLVED ***

Forgot to Restore SD card contents after the Wipe, after doing so Everything works.

leave this post incase someone else forgets ^-^
[G1 Android Development] magicman1987:
thank, worked perfectly,

thanks man, worked first time like a charm,

JUST READ... AND REREAD the instructions....

i had JF 1.43, then used the jf updater to JF 1,5 cupcake, then followed all the instructions to the bone on the first post, and voila! i partioned 350mb, i was reading somewhere not to do more then that... moved all dalvik and private as well...

dead simple!

my g1 is RULESSSS!!!!!!! WOOOO!

Thanks marcus!!!
[G1 Android Development] mconstant:
market not working after apps 2 sd

read raz334's post. Problem for me is that I couldn't copy all my old data back to the SD card. Now market doesn't work :( Suggestions?

====

Solved. Cache directory was linked to nothing. Created a directory for it to point to.
[G1 Android Development] themediator:
I was able to get mine to work using manual commands

I couldn't get the apptosd auto program I paid for to work for me but once I typed the manual commands for removing the directories and making the new directories it worked like a charm. I finally have 760M on internal memory cache now! I started with a fresh clean install of JF1.5 ADP1.5 so there was no need to move apps over for me.

I used an 8G class 4 because they had them on sale for $14 at Fry's.

What is the largest capacity and highest class SD card this will work with?
[G1 Android Development] iRobC:
Am I heading for trouble?

OK I've got an 8GB Class 2.

A ran Apps2SD and I've ended up with:

SD Card

2791MB Total

1791MB Available

SD Secondary

4707MB Total

4411MB Available

Internal Phone Storage

52MB

I now realise I created a 4707MB partition not a 470.7 partition as I thought (why isn't the Apps2SD slider range limited to not go above a sensible limit?)

Am I heading for trouble?
[G1 Android Development] SlicedKuniva:
If I used this way to format my sd card and get my apps on my sd. Could I wipe and install a rom that has a2sd already? or will i need to reformat my card again?
[G1 Android Development] Thats BS:
Yes. No need to reformat.
[G1 Android Development] Thats BS:
Probably. You should be able to reformat the sd with the phone and it should get you back to a full 8 gig card. Then re-due this.
[G1 Android Development] iRobC:
Thanks for coming back to me. What would you suggest using to reformat, I took Apps2SD off the phone when I moved across to the CyanogenMod but could of course put it back on if need be!
[G1 Android Development] onEnterFrame:
New SD Card Procedures

Everything is working great on my 4GB card

When I get a new 8GB card what is the procedure to move my apps to it?
[G1 Android Development] SnowmanDK:
This may be answered somewhere else but my searches came up empty.

I wonder if this will work on the Fatal1ty v1.4 Hero ROM on the HTC Magic?
[G1 Android Development] pistol4413:
should work i think that rom has auto a2sd but i maybe wrong. jus use the initial program to partition or one of the many recovery images with it built in.
[G1 Android Development] Burko:
Awesome work, bought the app on the market to support your hard work.

Never did apps2sd before as the process always seemed a bit involved, this was so simple even for someone like me who has never used linux.

Went from 8mb free to 67mb free.

:)
[G1 Android Development] SnowmanDK:
Didn't even think about that :o
[G1 Android Development] TeCH NiNJa:
HelP!

i have my g1 on the parted menu right now in console and i cant figure out how to partition this card? i did a 8gb class 6 before but with this gb stuff im lost. right now i ran print and it brought up " disk dev/block/mmcblk0: 16.1GB"

how do i partion a ext2 to have 1.5 gb and run a 32mb linux swap? or if you guys have a more optimal set up for a 16gb card please help......i just need the numbers to punch in.....sorry...yes im a noobie but please help
[G1 Android Development] TeCH NiNJa:
also i am trying to run this card on my mt3g....im just using my g1 to partition the card.
[G1 Android Development] TeCH NiNJa:
!!!!!!

figured it out just had a panic attack with a dash of brain fart!:p
[G1 Android Development] Coderedpl:
Can someone explain why i keep getting blank sd everytime i do this?

followed this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKbVDIHG818

which looks like pretty much the same thing it says here
[G1 Android Development] SemiMusicGuru:
i cant seem to get 2sd.zip to download it never stops gathering the information to download
[G1 Android Development] cor-e:
Apps Freezing

I got apps2sd2 to work but now my apps will freeze and make me force close them. Sometimes even apps that I'm not currently using (i assume they are running in the background).

This causes my phone to be really slow and I'll even miss calls because apps will freeze at the same time that a call comes in, or even the phone function will freeze.

Does anyone know why this is or how i can fix it. Its getting pretty annoying.
[G1 Android Development] decline55:
Which rom are you using?
[G1 Android Development] cor-e:
I'm using jesusfreke1.5
[G1 Android Development] decline55:
I would update to a newer rom if I were you. That rom is a bit dated, and all the newer roms usually come with apps2sd pre enabled.
[G1 Android Development] cor-e:
Thanx, updated to cyanogen 1.5 and using the built in apps2sd method seems to be working fine.
[G1 Android Development] daberg70:
I would like to know this too! I did this with my 4 GB SD, but intend to swap it with an 8 gig... Is there a procedure for copying the contents of the 4 gig including the second partition to the new drive?

No offense to anyone of the awesome devs, but the procedures for doing the initial AppsToSD are much easier than the overcomplicated instructions, and I am sure there is good reason (protecting less tech savy people from themselves maybe?) But it is a little frustrating for the rest of us! LOL :cool:
[G1 Android Development] aDaM_PaTT:
My Apps Being Moved To SD?

Okay, when I mount my phone to the computer, I click the folder named system, then I click sd, then I click app. How come there is nothing in the app folder if everything is getting moved to my SD card? Is there something wrong?

I've got a 16GB A-DATA SD card, and got like 1,300 GB of it EXT2, and the rest FAT32, and I've also entered all the codes in the terminal correctly, and everything runs and starts up fine. Even my apps work, and run, but I think there still being used by the internal memory? Because when we had to create the directory of system>sd>app, there is nothing in the last folder? That doesn't seem right.
[G1 Android Development] kaotikking:
Wow 1.3GB ext2 is overkill u will not store that many apps 300MB is even to much but that's a good # to start with IMO and what ROM are u using because 99.9% of the new ROMs do apps 2 sd on startup... ill also put my 2 cents in to say upgrade to ext3 its a safer filesystem
[G1 Android Development] aDaM_PaTT:
I use JF version 1.5. I mean I got the apps2sd and when i click the manage apps, there all unchecked? So im guessing thats right, and they all still run. So Im guessing I did it right.

And when I go to Settings>SD card & phone storage> its saying my Internal Phone storage is at 1,286 MB?

But then when I go to apps2sd app its showing 63/78 MB free?

And shows Free sd space 1348/1439 MB

Then in the app manager app its showing Memory: 1286/1372 MB

And the SD: 13.862/13.904 MB

So im really confused. Lol. Why are all these numbers different? I cant tell if the apps Im really getting is getting put onto my EXT2 partion, and not taking up my Internal memory space.
[G1 Android Development] daberg70:
Memory usage???

If anyone can shed some light on "available memory" regarding the following info, please feel free...

I have apps2sd running smoothly, and everything is working perfect on my phone. What is confusing to me is trying to find out exactly how much internal phone memory I have freed up...

My phone settings say I have 280mb of internal phone storage...

here is ALL the info I could gather after killing all tasks:

Taskiller says I have 40mb...

Task Panel says Avail mem = 35mb

System Monitor says Avail=95mb Used=60mb

Gphone Manager says Avail = 28mb Threshold = 16mb Lowmem = false

(My SD second partition says 973mb total and 865mb avail)

SOOO is there any way to tell for SURE what internal phone mem is used and what is avail???