yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
The Micro doesn't have a lot of things.

Amongst them:

QuickMenu

wktasks

.NetCF

The Canvas Dialer

The modified taskbar icons

Mortscript (for the wing versions that use the multibrowser button)

OperaMini

The newer version of IE (which takes more space)

The extended Explorer

The Rhodium Notification Enhancements

The HTC calculator

HTC Home

The keyboard skin

MyCPL

The new Volume Control system

The deactivated Rhodium Menu Enhancement (it's there to keep the notification enhancement working due to dependencies but it itself isn't working.)

The outlook enhancements

GoogleMaps

RandomAccess (the contacts quick alphabetical bar)

more modified icons around the system

Yet more modified icons around the system

Touch Responce (the force feedback)

I think that's all.

And the Payload has been modified to remove the ULDR (update partition which isn't used anyways.)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
hehe, This gets asks every time I release a stripped ROM. :p Yep, no .NetCF.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
The ; key should be working if you're using the correct version on your phone (if you have a herald, you're using the herald, if wing, the wing version.)

Is anyone else having this problem?

The MMS and SMS, is anyone else having this problem?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kristopherson:
I'm using the wing version for a wing.

like i said, sms works beautiful, i just cant send or receive mms, and the oz .cab won't work. should i use a different arcsoft build for this rom? I'm running spb mobile shell 3.0 and sometimes the shortcuts dont like to work after its been running for a while, but when i select it from the start menu it fails too. uninstalled and reinstalled it 3 times, did a hard reset, installed it on both the phone and sd card, always the same result. it's not super important because i use yahoo and i forward my im's to my phone when i'm not online. but i cant see my friends list that way.

even with this minor issues i'm having, i still love the rom.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] unknown123456:
I am so stupid for not mentioning this issue in my first post. I installed Network Wizard & Arcsoft 5.0.x version and soon notice I couldn't text neither. I had to install the T-Mobile MMS Config.cab . Search for that .cab file and install it. It worked soon afterwards. You can find that in the iOlite Manila2D thread in the Herald ROM Development. That rom also had this problem.

P.S. - I am sure you can use ConnectionSetup instead of NetworkWizard.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] unknown123456:
Ivan, one thing I notice so far is that Clear Storage does not work. Please take a look at that.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I can't test it without risking wiping out my own storage... Does it even open? Does it give you an error?

EDIT: Either way, I'm updating the Clear Storage on the next version, so don't worry about testing it until then.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] unknown123456:
Nothing happens after typing 1234 and pressing yes. I tried pressing enter on the qwerty keyboard but nothing. You can input 1,2,3, and 4 in the confirmation box but nothing happens after confirming yes.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Oh well. We'll see if the updated version fixes it. I'm planning on releasing Rev.B of both my JustStable builds with stuff ported over from my JustHome builds.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
if u released it wat stuff will b ported over babe?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] buru898:
Internet Sharing!!

Ah Ivan no internet sharing???

That's the ONLY way I get internet on my computer... do you have a cab for internet sharing? I tried googling it and it's just about of people asking and no solutions... I tried installing some cab and it doesn't work...

Bah!! Internet Sharing :(...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] doubts:
Hi

ok so i want to try it ...Can you please tell me how to download ROM or do i have to buy it?

i clicked on the "news version "link but i didn't see no download link ?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
It's a Micro version. It won't have anything but the BARE MINIMUM. Internet Sharing is only used by like 1 out of 20 people.

I'll try to make a cab out of it later, though.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
In the first page, click on my site. Click on the JustROMs link on the right hand side.

Download the one you want. (Micro Edition in this case.)

Follow the SD flashing guide that I've written down. (Just search for it.)

Make sure you're HardSPL'd.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Try this. Download the Internet Sharing and report to whether it works or not. (Some people say it HAS to be cooked in...)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] buru898:
Ah no luck... when I install it and go to Internet Sharing and press connect the connect button flickers to disconnect but instantly goes back to connect and a message appears saying that it tried to dial the number but it couldn't and to check the connection settings...

BUT I found a zip with 2 files (the intshrui.exe and the dll associated with it forgot the name...) and, after uninstalling the one you provided, it actually does connect to the internet but when I plug it in my computer it shows it's connecting but never does :(. Limited or no conectivity...

Ugh sucks... Guess I'll be forced to be using your JustStable then. Nothing's wrong with that one I just love the ridiculous RAM and how NOTHING is on it... cept how Internet Sharing isn't :(.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Stereohype:
volume

great rom! can u please provide the cab for the new volume control?

thnx
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] unknown123456:
If you are referring to the OPAL Volume Control, just do a search on it. It took me two minutes to find it yesterday.

P.S. - I'll even save you the time just this once.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=425694
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] v5HMeca:
Can someone remind me again what are the pros and cons with regards to pagepool? I'm sure I read it at one point or another, but I honestly don't remember at all. Sounds like it's an interim place to store information/memory that will be accessed more frequently, similar to the function of RAM in a computer.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] unknown123456:
It's simple. A lower pagepool will give you a slower performance but higher memory(ram). A higher pagepool will run faster but it sacrifices the RAM as an expense. Now most people will say that 6MB PagePool is the best with the Herald. I can't disagree on that but I prefer the 4MB PagePool (slower but more memory). The most common roms you see will be at 6MB these days because it's what most people prefer. The reason is it doesn't sacrifice a lot of memory and gives the best performance with our device. I don't see the difference in 4MB PagePool because Ivan's and TTran's rom were so fast that at 4MB, you couldn't tell. And on top of that, I get the extra RAM. But I'm not saying that all roms changed to a 4MB PagePool will be fast. I have changed some older roms and there was a huge difference in speed. So it depends on the rom you are flashing.

For example, when I first installed Manila2D in JustStable Micro without changing the Pagepool, I had 23MB of ram using the 6MB PagePool at startup. After changing it to 4MB, I'm running at 26MB at startup. This includes some programs like Omap, FingerMenu, and two others. I know I will have at least 8 more programs running at StartUp after I finish installing everything and that extra 3MB of RAM will save me. I do see a slight speed difference though but I'm willing to live with that. It's a herald and not a fuze/raphael no matter how much you want it. Ivan, I believe, has already tuned the heck out of our Herald/Wings and made it the fastest ever with his roms. You can probably ask anybody out there that flashed a good micro/lite rom and then installed the latest Manila2D and I bet they couldn't get over 17MB of free Ram at startup with just Manila2D in their startup folder. That's how nice this rom is.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] aerovolce:
can't flash

When I start the bootloader, it doesn't seem to find the HERAIMG.nbh

i am using 256mb fat32 on 4gig SDHC Made in Taiwan

anyone with the same microsd having luck with the flash?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] sambalbij:
Sorry, sdhc doesn't work well.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] aerovolce:
darn

Darn it, I was looking forward to it!

Thanks for the heads up mate :) Keep up the good work guys
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] 321123:
active sync always works in background...

active sync always works in background... how can I sovle this problem?

thnx

by the way ... grate rom...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
It always in on the background in every ROM by default. It's the way it was designed so that it could be used with exchange servers. Search around and you'll find many "fixes" for it. I don't kill it since I use it, so I don't know said "fixes".
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] unknown123456:
There are a few ways to prevent ActiveSync from working. Each method differs and sometimes it's only a temporary fix for some roms. But I've used one of the methods and that method works with JustStable. You should try the following method. Before you start, please make sure the X button really terminates programs when pressed. So use WKTask, QuickMenu, or whatever task manager that will help you terminate ActiveSync for the following method.

Go to Settings

Phone

Time Zones

Uncheck Automatic change time zone and clock and then OK

Reboot

After Reboot, go to ActiveSync

Then Menu

Add Server Source

In E-mail Address, type in fake

Uncheck Attempt to detect Exchange Server Settings automatically

Then Next

Type fake in the Server Address

Uncheck This server requires an encrypted SSL connection.

Press Okay to choosing to sync without a secure connection

Next

Type to following fields: User Name: fake , Password: fake, Domain: Fake

Uncheck save password then Next

Uncheck Contacts, Calendars, E-mail, and Task under Edit Server Settings

Click Finish

Terminate ActiveSync (Very Important)

Now run ActiveSync again

Go to Menu then Schedule

Choose Manually for Peak Times and Off Peak Times

Uncheck Send/receive when I click Send

Now to go peak times link at the bottom of the page

Uncheck All the Weekdays since by default, it's Monday - Friday

Press Okay

Terminate ActiveSync again

Reboot

That's it!

Now, I don't use the Exchange Server so if you do, I don't know how well it works or if another Server Source will affect anything. Also, the method I've given is not my own. It's posted somewhere in XDA so please don't give me any credit for it. The original method also states you can delete the Server Source after following the instructions I've given. I do not recommend this. If you do, expect ActiveSync to come back soon after StartUp.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] buru898:
Ah now I can keep activesync closed thanks :).

Hey Ivan, any luck or idea about the Internet Sharing cab? I've never been able to get MMS to work on your JustStable but your Micro worked.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] buru898:
Hmm well for some reason my MMS only worked on the Micro editions... so now I either have to choose to send and receive pics... or be able to use internet sharing... sucks...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Did you install the Arcsoft THEN run the connection wizard? Most people that report it not working aren't installing it in the correct order.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] buru898:
Yeah I've tried both ways... I put the arcsoft in the sdconfig so it installs right away...

I'll try again and see how I got it to work last time...

Hey is there a way I can put Internet Sharing in your Micro ROM? Like take it apart, just put IS, then put it back together?

Thanks for the replies though Ivan.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
No, but I might release one WITH IS.

On the other hand, JustStableV2 Build 5 Micro is out!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I also uploaded IS versions (Internet Sharing included.)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] buru898:
Hah omg Ivan you are the BEST!!!

And did you ever want me to make you a splash screen(s)?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I decided to make the splash screen HTC like to make the phone as professional looking as possible. ^_^ So no need. Thank you, though.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] v5HMeca:
Wasn't the Pagepool 6MB in your last version?

Why the change of heart? Not that I really care either way because I honestly have never paid attention to the effects of various pagepools; I'm just curious.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
There's nothing big in the ROM that slows down with a smaller pagepool and I like the extra RAM. :p
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] v5HMeca:
Another question: How can I change the Start Menu icon to be the HTC logo or the white Windows logo? I'm assuming that requires replacing shell resources, which I'm familiar with doing. I'm just wondering what resource files are modified and what the known limitations are.

I suppose that would also be along the same lines as replacing the other icons in the task bar. So if it's not too much trouble, can you tell me how folks do that too? You don't have to be too explicit if you don't feel like it. I'm not even sure if I want to take the effort to do it if it's too complicated.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] unknown123456:
33+ of free RAM? Are you we still talking about the Herald/Wing here? :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] buru898:
There's this tool tht a guy made that changes the Icon... hmm... google "Icone Demarrer". You install the cab and drag and drop the icons (he should have a zip with all the icons) into the windows folder and soft reset! I use the blue mushroom.

Hey Ivan it seems the only way for MMS to work for me is using WAP 1.2... why is that? 2.0 doesn't work at all for me... hmm... maybe that's all I had to do in the first place?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
The start menu can be changed by adding a custom shellres.96.dll.mui with the edited icons.

You can download mui's with the icons already edited (just search for them) or you can edit them yourselves if you download the edit package floating around in XDA. (It unsigns the mui, lets you edit it with reshacker and then sign the file again.)

Yes sir. :p

Not sure. I don't really use the MMS very often.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] mohsen198x:
hi

this link for download is incorrect.plz ,upload this rom to other server(rapidshare,mediafire,etc)tnx
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
That link isn't incorrect. It's my personal site. As I said, click on the JustROMs link. On the right hand side of that website.

On another note: JustStable V2 Micro Build 6 is ready but I probably won't release it until Build 7. No bugs but no huge improvements other than upgrading to build 21051. (The newest wm6.1 build.)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] mohsen198x:
i know that,but i cann't visit your site.

i see this error:Failed to Connect

help me for download this rom,tnx
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] CuteD34th:
Kudos to you Ivan!

This is an awesome ROM!

I've never seen so much free RAM on any Herald ROM.

Thank you very much!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Amoxaphobic:
Ok, I am sure I am doing something wrong, but I am not sure what it is. I have tried to install a couple copies of the JustStable V2 Build 5 for the wing. But everytime I start, get to 7% and then an error says that the file is corrupted and is the wrong size.

"Error 228: INVALID FILE SIZE"

The image file is corrupted. Please check your update utility

I am not really sure what this means. I have tried several other ROMs and all flash just fine. I'm confused. Anyone know what the problem could be????

My phone is HardSPL'd and is currently running Touch-IT 7.1 (In case you wanted to know).

Thanks for any help.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
^_^

*padding for character limit on the forum*
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] momoclax:
just flashed with JustStableV2 Build 5 Micro Edition with IS....

I really love this ROM, very fast and stable.... so no bugs or something error...

thank you ivan..you are the man !!!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Amoxaphobic:
I knew I was missing something. Thank you. I'll try that.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] unknown123456:
Clear Storage is still not working Ivan.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] buru898:
Hey Ivan are you reading up on the ULDR exploit thing? How cooks can update their ROMS without having to make a completely new ROM and users having to reinstal and recustomize EVERYTHING??

Really kickass but also kind of ironic how a few days or weeks after you release your ROMS with ULDR removed is when people found potential with it.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Yes, but as I mentioned in the other thread, this would only work for minor updates. A full update where I change the build version of windows mobile, would take quite a bit more space than those 3mb's.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] v5HMeca:
Oh, heh. I just sent you a PM about that too. I should have checked the threads. Bloops. My bad.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Amoxaphobic:
Well it took a little while for me to get the format version right... using Vista and command prompt only wanted to format to FAT. But I finally found the disk mgmt and got it to to be FAT32. Once that was done, everything worked like a charm.

So far, this ROM kicks ass. So, I think Imma stick with it for a while. Thanks Ivan.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Kernel Jag:
Thanks ivan!

I was able to HardSPL my phone, and get this ROM loaded up. But after using it for a few days, I'm convinced it's noticably slower than your other ROMs, or any ROM I've ever used for that matter. Still unsure why. Could be the pagepool, could be the LZX compression, or could be both together!

Am I alone or does anyone else feel the same way?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] unknown123456:
Did you use the 6MB PagePool version? That's the fastest one. Every tap gives you an instant feedback. If you flashed the latest version, it's because it's 4MB Pagepool which makes it slower. Based on my needs, I think the 4MB PagePool needs the overclock but the 6MB does not need it. I still prefer the 4MB with overclock. A LZX compression actually makes it faster.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kristopherson:
I think you're alone on this. I love the quick response I get with every tap and gesture. I'm running Spb Mobile Shell 3.0 and it's running flawlessly. Maybe you got a bad flash?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Strange, it also FLIES on my herald...

And this is the MICRO ROM we're talking about?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Kernel Jag:
I think you're right about that. I had to overclock it to make it response.

@kristopherson

Wouldn't a bad flash render the device unusable??

@ivanmmj

Yes, it's the JustStableV2 Build 5 Micro Edition I'm talking about. HardSPLed my phone esp. for it!! :D

I've flashed the latest JustHome for the time being (v11) and loving it (save for the the lack of free RAM)!

I'll flash it back to JustStableV2 Build 5 Micro Edition and record my experience on a video.

If it really was a bad flash, the problem might get sorted out on its own!

Will let you guys know when I find out what was causing the slow-down...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] taylorb1:
are any other files needed to flash this ROM? or literally just replace the nbh file and reflash?

I ask because I have lots of crap on my SD already and am running Blue clear ROM...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] mohsen198x:
help me plz

dear ivan

i can not see your site mean when i try to see your site i envisage this error:

Failed to Connect

Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at justkitchen.info.

Though the site seems valid, the browser was unable to establish a connection.

* Could the site be temporarily unavailable? Try again later.

* Are you unable to browse other sites? Check the computer's network connection.

* Is your computer or network protected by a firewall or proxy? Incorrect settings can interfere with Web browsing.

plz, help me to download your rom.

can you upload your rom on rapidshare server or another,plz do that
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Sorry, I'm not the webmaster, so I don't know why you would be getting that. Maybe your DNS isn't seeing .info sites? Maybe the webmaster will comment. He's around here somewhere... ;)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] unknown123456:
You do not need to delete anything off your SD card; it will not interfere with the flashing. You must remember you have to have the HERAIMG.nbh file in the root of the SD card though.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] taylorb1:
My card was already formatted to Fat32, but wouldnt flash (it did the 1/4 second search and then gradient screen). I reformatted the card, and it flashed fine in about 6 minutes.

But now when it loads, I get the old start bar on top, Calender and contacts on bottom, but NOTHING in the middle? I reflashed again and still have the same prob.

I used the nbh from the last option listed on JustROMS...

JustStableV2Build5-Micro-Wing.7z 25992859 05-27-2009 17:31:21

I do not have an SD card in the phone, becuase it is now in my G1. I dont see where that could cause this issue though...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] marty123:
Not a problem, but a feature! As a Micro Rom, it has nothing in the way of "extras", including Today plug-ins like HTC Home that you may be used to seeing with the clock, etc. You get to add only the plug-ins and programs you want/need, and not have unwanted programs just taking up space.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] unknown123456:
The reason why it flashed it 6mins or less is because the file size of the .nbh isn't big. It's 17MB when downloaded; hence the name of MICRO. Any other ROM you ever faced will probably have at least 45MB. If you ever downloaded a lite version of a ROM before, picture MICRO as a version with only the bare minimum that it takes to run Windows Mobile. You have to install everything from scratch on your own. This ROM is not for the lazy that wants everything pre-installed. This is for users who want the ultimate customization starting with the bare minimum. So compare it to a new car with no optional equipments but just the basic features. If you want some nice rims or a better audio system, you have to add that on your own.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] taylorb1:
6 minutes was just for reference... I'm not totally brand new to this, I just saw all the screenshots and thought it would load all those minimums already...

Anyways... its on, its running and it rocks! Now I am researching to figure out how to get Audio Manager to open up during startup, becuase that's all I using the Wing for anymore...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
The screenshots are for JustStableV2 not JustStableV2 Micro. ^_^

Anyhoo, I might be moved to create a JustMP3...

And a JustGPS...

And a JustMovies...

hmm... I could even disable everything not needed...

Like:

No apps but the MP3 player which loads automatically at startup.

No camera driver.

No anything but the BARE minimum for MP3 playing.

No IE, nothing at all BUT MP3 player software and WM5torage to transfer music over.

Not even activesync...

hmm...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] taylorb1:
Well if you just need something to do... JustAUDIO would be killer! but right now I have JustSTABLEV2 Build 5 Micro and HTC Audio Manager, with audio set to load at startup. This is great for me (for now) :) minus the fact that Audio Mgr only uses the volume on the side of the phone for control, so you get the factory delay in volume changes

I have no SIM in the phone, but put it into airplane mode, so i quit getting the No Sim and no service notifications...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I like that... JustAudio. OK. That's the new name. :p
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] sambalbij:
activesync

Lol. Not that i'm going to use it (i use more than audio), but you may want to leave activesync in it just to sync your device with windows media player on your pc.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] unknown123456:
I like JustMedia (music/video) and JustGo (for the GPS). The micro version still suits me best.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
NetCF

i am looking for NetCF i cant find a cab