yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] matthijsvankeulen:
Thanks for the tips. The problem of no reception of tmc info was due to bad reception in my house. When I placed my phone near the window, I was able to recieve TMC.

When I wanted to upgrade to beta 2, my phone had issues with cerificates. Deleting the dll files mentionend in the first post solved the problem. There will be more testing tomorrow.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] evolution_dj:
i have the same problem...

can anyone help me? :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] agentzee:
Same problem here too!n :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] salemh:
Last version

=Hi

Where is the last version? Where can I download it? Thnx
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
Beta 3 preview

Unfortunately I don't know if spanish station RN3 has stopped today sending TMC messages or is a problem in my test device but I cannot receive TMC with none of the betas ???

Then, as long as I have a Beta 3 based on latest flywhc GFMAPI 1.2b, I'll ask you to test it, understanding that I haven't tested the TMC. But it receives RDS very well and is recognized by iGO in my Diamond better than the previous beta.

Also is faster unloading the driver.

Let me know if it receive group 8 messages in your side.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] erups:
Regarding the Touch Cruise problems

Here is my log with the modified dll for beta2.

I loaded the debug interface -> tmc decoded

exited interface

loaded the debug interface -> tmc decoded

exited interface

loaded igo

started automatic detection -> not detected

manually set protocol and port -> not detected

exited igo

loaded debug interface -> tmc NOT decoded

exited interface
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cbolumar:
Yes, i live in Madrid and i think RN3 has stopped this afternoon to send TMC , it had been working like a charm with beta 1 for two days but in this moment i don't have TMC data.

I don't have any TMC data in XFMradio .
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gauner1986:
Igo is tuning through the channels quite fast and isn't able to find any RDS or TMC info with beta 3.. In the test tool i'm able to receive TMC data.

Auto detection doesn't work..

Edit: I recognized the problem with the high battery consumption, too.. It's just sucking out my battery in less than a day with average usage.. So HyperGPS needs to be deactivated, when it is not needed.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cannondale0815:
Same here. I'm using the Beta 3 preview, and even though I can see the correct TMC pattern in the test tool, iGo doesn't find anything. I live in the New York area btw, in case that is relevant.

For the band, I chose "CCIR", as "World" only goes from 76 to 90 (despite the label saying 76-108).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Plattendoktor:
[REQ] Prevent switching to another station for a while when tmc was once found

Once TMC was found at a frequency, would it be possible to prevent IGO searching a station for a while when tmc has only a short break (signal strength)?

The "same" would be nice at every tuning, but then with a shorter time (10 sec.) and not only when a TMC was found.

I think this could be implementable in the driver:

When the driver regognises the TMC, a timer of about 30 sec. could be started when TMC signal is lost. Within this time period tuning would be prevented and maybe a simulation of a tuning would be started to meet the damands of IGO.

Thank in advance

:rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jose-Ramon:
Yes, there is a problem with the RDS-TMC information, from the 11H58' (19/05/09).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] giggetto:
Beta 3 has the same problem of beta 2 on my HTC diamond : the TMC hw is not recognized by iGO.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Nakebod:
Can't properly test Beta3 right now, at this moment I'm at a location with very poor radio quality, and the only radio stations with TMC are not available here (Tested with Beta1, and x FM Radio).

What I can test, however, is starting iGo, the hardware is found. Closing iGo, and then start iGo again, and it still detects the hardware!

So if TMC is also working, no need to use Beta1 anymore, and no need to reset the device each time you close iGo!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] salemh:
I di receive the TMC 8 messages1 at 92.6 (NL)

However, no TMC messages in iGo! (although TMC device is detected and set to the right freq.)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
Hi beemerTPPC,

Test of HyperGPS beta3:

- TMC is working with this beta here in France

- still have to add saved_config_available="0" in sys.txt because if not, after a close/start of iGO, there's no TMC or RDS (the name of the station doesn't appear)

- if the HTC is power off when the driver is active, I have to soft reset

- auto scan in iGO: very fast, but doesn't stop on stations supposed to be sending TMC. When scanning I can see the names of the stations.

- sound still much too low comparing with when headset is not connected

- I still have TMC hardware not found sometimes. I wonder if it's not related with the radio signal strenght: when the headset is not connected, the TMC hardware cannot be found (I tried more than 10 times!). And/or maybe the fake message $RTTMC,7 is not enough for iGO to detect the hadware

- unloading the driver is not that fast. It's faster than before when the headset is plugged but seems to be slower when it's not plugged
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] matthijsvankeulen:
Beta 3 runs good the first time I used it. It recieves tmc signal at 98.9 (netherlands). But iGO doesn't find hardware. When I went back to hgps, there was still tmc signal. But in test screen, when I press Set, it goes blanck. At the top, there is no frequency displayed. I have to soft reset. When I start the app again and load the tmc driver it says: "Cannot load driver. Try installing beemercert.cab or another com port." But beemercert is installed and I use the same port al before. Then I delete gfmapi.dll and all is fine again, but no tmc in iGO.

Yesterday beta 1 was working perfectly and iGO recieved TMC signal. But when I install beta 1 again, iGO gets no TMC. It does see the hardware though.

Added saved_config_available="0" in sys.txt , but now iGO doesn't search anymore. The frequency stays on 100.0 mhz and can not be changed.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jose-Ramon:
The TMC now works ... from 9h40
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] erups:
Tried Beta 3 this morning.

Hardware not detected in igo.

TMC decoded by its own interface.

Still, after closing igo, the radio is fubar until softreset.

Now not even the HTC Radio is able to work, it says "unknown error" and closes.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] matthijsvankeulen:
With Beta 3 I now recieve tmc info in iGO. I do have to edit sys.txt (iGO) and system (iGO\save with the line saved_config_available="0".

But when i close iGO and start it again, it can't find the hardware. Also hgps radio doesn't work untill softreset. But now after softreset, it doesn't find any tmc signal.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] janfk:
Tried Beta 3

Registered changes :

1. Had to mute sound in HyperGPS to make radio silence with driver active in IGO

2. Autotuning in IGO seems much faster than before.

Otherwise it still works perfect, only have to activate driver after softstart and then continue working with several start/stop of IGO.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] remko:
My Results with Beta3:

- Tuning much faster and more stable. TMC messages come in way faster and more stable in the tuning utility

- Second iGo start still an issue.

Attached my 2 logs:

Log1:

- driver started

- igo started with "saved_config_available=0"

- hardware detection in iGo found TMC hardware

- Tuning with TMC reception perfect!

Log2:

- driver started

- iGo started with "saved_config_available=1"

- hardware available

- tuning possible and fast

- no TMC reception

I see in the logs that on the second iGo start, it does not power on the radio correctly (FMPowerON, Result: 31). So still somehow iGo sends a fals command to power it up... no idea where to look for it though...

So this Beta definatly is an improvement, no still this "big black beast"....;)

Grtz Remko
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] matthijsvankeulen:
@remko

In which file are the lines "saved_config_available=0" and "saved_config_available=1" located?

Does it solve anything when that file says "saved_config_available=0" and made read only?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] matthijsvankeulen:
Ok, this is what I do with beta 3. I'm in the Netherlands with latest Dutch rom version on my Touch HD.

- uninstall previous beta programs

- do softreset

- install beta 3 and start hgps. It recieves tmc signal both on 98.9 (traffic) and 100.7 (mobile speedcams)

- tap X in hgps and start iGO 8

- search for tmc hardware but nothing is found

- exit iGO and go back to hgps

- hgps is not working anymore

- uninstall beta 3 and soft reset

- install beta 1

- hgps finds tmc signal

- start iGO 8, it finds tmc hardware, but can't search frequency. It is stuck at 100.0 mhz
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] remko:
Normally this line should be written in the "system.ini" under the "save" folder. Since this file is being overwritten each time setting it to "read-only" would solve it.

To get around this problem it is possible to add this line in the "sys.txt" which is under the root iGo folder. Then this setting is a permanent one.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] matthijsvankeulen:
Why doesn't iGO find tmc hardware with beta 3 en does find hardware with beta 2? I use the same settings.

And why isn't iGO able to search frequencies with beta 1 today? Yesterday it worked like a charm.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ToddeSwe:
Hi!

I'm not realy expecting anything from a beta, just wanted to know if someone here in sweden had gotten it to work.

If you want we can have this diskussion in my Swedish HTC forum (see my signature below) would be nice to get it to work...

But i will be following the progress in the developing on this for sure.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Plattendoktor:
Beta3 + saved_config_available="0" => no TMC hardware found
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Leon_Citron:
I had troubles also with the beta 3 at start, but:

Uninstall of the B3.

Install of the B1

Install of the B3 (without uninstalling the B1, just deleted the dll files)

Works !

It works fatser than the other one.

Good news is also that the HTC 3 in 1 adaptor works with this without handsfree connected, the reception is not so good but it works. Good in car to charge the device and use it as GPS :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] matthijsvankeulen:
Doesn't work for me.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
Stop sending logs

I'have a clear idea of the current issues. And I'm working on a whole new version that I hope solve most of them, but it could take one or two days.

As soon as I have a working version on my device I'll post it here for a controlled testing.

Thanks all for your help.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mario661:
Great news!

Great to hear it Beemer. As soon as I have the chance/time, I will test it again. I love this kind of hacking.

@all: does someone know a splitter for the Diamond 100 that works (tested) to connect a headset and a cable for charging?

Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rvdgeer:
Love this kind of hacking/programming too!

Just bought me a splitter (audio/data) for my Diamond for only € 3,99 (incl. shipping)...

Will let you know if/how it works as soon as I have it and have the chance to test it...

(Shipping can take a while...:()
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
I've tried three kinds of splitters, but all of them have the same issue that I think is more related to the PDA than to the splitter: It work well until you connect the power. then the FM reception drops and TMC cannot be received.

I'm working now in a HTC power cable with a wire connected to one of the extended pins (don't remember wich one but I've posted it before) to act as antenna. But I have it opened since two weeks... Simply I haven't time for all ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] erups:
As far as i know the radio uses the "ground" of the headset as the antenna.

So when you plug the power the ground gets grounded to a power source and probably reception goes to hell...

My guess, may be wrong but...

MAYBE if the antenna is directly connected to the USB connector shield, it COULD be possible to un-couple the shiled from the actual ground...

But dunno if it would work as internally there are probably other chassis connections...

Dunno, never opened my HTC :P
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] matthijsvankeulen:
Looking forward to your new version beemer. You're doing a great job!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] salemh:
Maybe if you share the code and open it as open source, we will get faster. REcognition is already attributed. Just an idea.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
It's a driver and it means that it is difficult to debug without access to the driver development platform, and make it opensource will only convert it in a miriad of non functional versions.

Let me finish a functional one and when toally done I'll publish the source code for others to improve it, add compatibility with more devices and protocols, etc.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zinger5:
you're doing a great job - I'm looking foward to seeing the new version when it's ready.

Cheers,

zinger5
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lame123:
Beta3 on XPERIA

For me the Beta 3 is very fast and stable. But unloading the driver takes much longer... compared to beta1 and 2.

Sometimes i can't tune (iGo and test-prog.... iGo displays 0,0MHz and test-prog displays nothing), but usualy i get the code 8 lines with the test-prog. The problem is that i cant find tmc signals in igo even when the test-prog displays it. It seems like igo just wont recognize the radiosignal delivered from the driver... igo is scanning but it cant find anything... no matter if the radiosound is muted or not.

Hardware detection is still not working for me in igo. I have to manually config in the system.ini.

Thanks for your effort!!!! Besides iGO itself THIS will be my favourite piece of software installed on my XPERIA... if you will get it to work ;) but i'm sure you will do it. KEEP UP YOUR GREAT WORK!!!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] salemh:
After trying man many times with Beta 1 / 2/ 3.... this is what I got

Driver loading no problem ... running test ... getting TMS data wit hgroup 8 at 92.6 (NL)

starting iGo ... detecting TMC HW OK

in all cases, it shows no TMC data ...

I had it once working with one of the alpha's ... no idea what is going wrong!!1

I ave HTC Polaris running WM 6.1
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] giggetto:
Hi beemer,

if you are interested i bought this item http://cgi.ebay.it/Charger-Headset-...34.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=|301:0|293:4|294:30 and this works well on a HTC Diamond with both power and headset connected.

TMC info are received correctly.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] salemh:
This is great, would it work on HTC Polaris?

Guys .. ideas from wherer to get in NL? thnx
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] datin:
Same for me on same device (HTC Touch Cruise - Polaris).

"Driver loading no problem ... running test ... getting TMS data wit hgroup 8 at 92.6 (NL)

starting iGo ... detecting TMC HW OK

in all cases, it shows no TMC data ... "

But strange is that it worked fine once after a flashed ROM. But after that exactly same result with any version.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] glpit:
Also on my Polaris!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] auxaux:
same here with Beta3. But I guess Beamerppc knows what's causing this.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] frozentoes:
Not authorized to install?

Hello, first of all, thank you for the effort you put in developing such a helpful app. I installed the Beta one on my HTC Touch HD , got through the setup-process and everything worked - for one start (IGO8). The second attempt didn't find the tmc-hardware any more. So I uninstalled hypergps and tried to reinstall it. (As I did with beemer) But my HTC says, that the program has not the authorization to be installed. From that on, nothing convinces the PDA to accept the installation on either Beta one or two. I would really like to use it, cause i am travelling a lot, and would either be willing to donate :) buy a commercial version, help with translations into German or whatever;). Thanks for any hint.

Frozentoez

HTC Touch HD

Windows 6.1 - German

IGO8
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] OlivierTheBest:
On HTC DIAMOND beta 3 (and Beta 2) doesn't allow IGO to detect a TMS device while beta 1 allows detection of TMC receiver and TMC messages are received.

Olivier
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
DONATIONS

============

Thanks to Awi S. Still working on Beta 3 very hard thanks to your impulse ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nicsarnero:
HTC Polaris on Alpha3 (Beta1 and Beta2 not Work to me)

Having configured as described earlier by

beemerTPPC "Greatest Many Many Thanks"

:DI use in my HTC Polaris Alpha3 and,works well (but I must follow this procedure):

-Start HyperGPS Press the button TMC, Once loaded, select Test Menu and select the band transmits TMC,and press Set.

-Start iGo8 "without the Configuring the File System" and I try the hardware automatically "finds the hardware,but does not download the data."

-Closed iGo8 and press for TMC "disable driver HyperGPS" and exit.

-Restart HyperGPS.... "repeat everything as described above and it works"!

-:oBeta1 and Beta2 not Work in my HTC Polaris "not responses TMC data $RTTMC,8 but $RTTMC,7"
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] salemh:
Where can I download alpha 3?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nicsarnero:
alpha3

@salemh

I have sent private message.

Domenico
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gargamelle:
hello everybody,

I'm on polaris (touch cruise) and i have tested this great job ;)

on xFM Radio, i receive the tmc signal :

i receive too in the HyperGPS (1.0 beta 3):

But in IGo, i have 0 signal TMC .

beemerTPPC, you are a master :)

Congratulation !!! Good job man :cool:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
Problems with Beta 3 development

Seeing that most of your problems are related to

-Initial hardware recognition

-Second igo start TMC reception

I've tried to do a driver that not only power off the radio, but closes totally the FMS driver with bad results.

Seems like calling a driver from another driver causes some weird behaviour if the called driver is closed and reopened. I've tried even nloading the FMS: driver but the second time the radio behaves erratically. The only way it works is when I get different FM handles between iGO runs what happens in my Diamond if I only power off the radio but don't close the FM driver but not in some of your devices/ROMs.

Seeing that this is not the way to go, I've thought on another approach and I want you to do some testing before I spend time on it.

The idea is loading the driver from a program that also will load an user defined program (igo, etc.) and automatically unload the driver once the called program finish, then terminate itself.

To see if this could work, I need from those of you that have tested the beta 3 and it is recognized by iGO to test the following. If possible with loagmode turned on and HyperGPS.log deleted previously.:

-Soft reset

-saved_config_available="0"

-HGPSclient, load the driver. Don't enter in test mode.

-Run iGO, detect teh hardware and verify all works OK.

-Exit iGO

-HGPSClient, unload the driver and exit.

-HGPSclient, load the driver. Don't enter in test mode.

-Run iGO, verify that hardware has beenautomatically detected and test if tmc is received.

-Exit iGO

-HGPSClient, unload the driver and exit.

Please don't send me or post logs that doesn't adhere to this exact test procedure.

I want to get finally something that could be useful for most users, then I'll can make a well documented project and turn it opensource ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Captain_Throwback:
FINALLY!

I actually got Beta 3 working on my Fuze! And I didn't really have to do anything special either, and I can't figure out why its working now, while it wasn't working before . . .

All I did was include these lines in my SYS.TXT, for both iGO8 (8.3.2.83157) and iGO Amigo:

[tmc]
saved_config_available=1
saved_config_classname="NMEA_GPSTMC_ROYALTEK"
saved_config_portname="COM"
saved_config_port=9

Then, I loaded the HyperGPS driver, with the output set to "Speaker" and "Tuned Sound". Once the driver was active, I just exited out without testing first. Then, I opened iGO Amigo, and selected "Traffic" from the Settings menu, and it auto-searched for a Frequency. I wasn't sure it was actually finding anything, but when I went to the map view, there was a "TMC" icon on the screen, which I hadn't seen before. I exited out of Amigo, and then opened iGO 8.

I went into the TMC Settings, and the auto-tuner found TMC without me having to do anything. Then it looks like it lost the TMC signal for a bit, but then I manuallly tuned to a station w/TMC info, and it found it again.

One thing I noticed - I'm using TTS voices. It appeared that when the TTS engine was buffering (about to give me directions), that I was getting a "No TMC" message. I'm wondering if the TMC reception also relates to system resources as well, since I just started using TFDetacher, and my Manila was closed, giving me additional free memory.

Anyway, I thought I'd share my experience, and maybe that can help others get it working.

I see that beemer is also working diligently on a fix. It won't be long before this is out of Beta!! :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] iseeka:
thank you beemer for your work, even finding solution for other devices appart from diamond

hope you manage to find a solution
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] erups:
Got rid of beta3 and installed alpha3, but i don't have an hypergps key anymore.

Should i create it with the name "HyperGPS"?

not speaking about the log key, but the whole hypergps key folder in the drivers section.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
Hi Beemer,

I hope I didn't do something wrong (see my log)!

saved_config_available="0" is in sys.txt, so each time I start iGO, I have to search for the TMC hardware. I hope that's what you wanted...

cheers
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] matthijsvankeulen:
@beemer

When I follow your instructions, no tmc hardware is found. But when i add the following lines to system.txt tmc hardware is found in igo. But no tmc info is recieved in igo. Within hgps i see that it recieves tmc signal. Also after restart of hgps and igo, hgps still recieves tmc. And igo can still search frequencies. Hope it helps.

[tmc]

saved_config_available="1"

saved_config_classname="NMEA_GPSTMC_ROYALTEK"

saved_config_portname="COM"

saved_config_port="9"

auto_tuning="1"

saved_last_frequency="989"

saved_last_tuning_mode="0"

ignore_all_events="0"
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aszotten:
Tried beta 3 according to the instructions but no TMC harware found. Did a few extra rounds of TMC detection in IGO before exiting 2:nd time

Attaching log

//Awi S.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] remko:
Originally Posted by beemerTPPC

-Soft reset

-saved_config_available="0"

-HGPSclient, load the driver. Don't enter in test mode.

-Run iGO, detect teh hardware and verify all works OK.

-Exit iGO

-HGPSClient, unload the driver and exit.

-HGPSclient, load the driver. Don't enter in test mode.

-Run iGO, verify that hardware has beenautomatically detected and test if tmc is received.

-Exit iGO

-HGPSClient, unload the driver and exit.

And my report to. It works fine this way, but I also must say that I do not need to close the driver to get the same result. If I leave the driver running but let iGo redetect the hardware I get a solid TMC reception as well.

Grtz Remko
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] salemh:
beamer, like to help ... how can I enable the log file?

by the way, since this is a driver using another (flywhc) would not be easier if the flywhc modify his code so the sound is disable (in case this is also a problem ...as I can read from some replies)