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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
DONATIONS

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Thanks to PWJ C. I'm working hard on Beta 3 that will have many great improvements thanks to your donation!

For those that can't install new beta 2, try unninstalling the previous version first and ensure that gfmapi.dll and hypergps.dll are removed from \windows folder

Also ensure that you have installed beemer_cert.cab
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] remko:
Tried the reloaded Beta2 but still the same behaviour. Let iGo detect the hardware and it works flawlessly.

When I start iGo the second time, tuning is possible but no TMC data comes in....

If needed I can post the log file later today.

Grtz Remko
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] blackjag:
ok there we go

steps i took:

- i installed the newer B2 version on a diamond touch

- askings me to remove previous version (beta2)

- it removed previous version

- installed the b2

- start hypergps

- activated the driver

- searched for radion stations which have TMC RTTM,8...

- program quickly foun them

- didn't set any channels

- hit ok

- started iGO

- sys.txt i have a line which says

[tmc]

saved_config_available="0"

- TMC settings -> set Royaltek, Port 9, hit autodetect

- not finding the tmc "hardware"

- i do NOT hear the radio stations thru my headset

not working im afraid :(

reverted to beta1, hardware is detected
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] raz0r09:
yeah yeah

It installed! The solution was to delete gfmapi.dll
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
hi,

Same result as remko. If needed I can also post a log
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
yes I want logs, but first install this dll. It is the same than the beta 2 one but specified the time for the received RDS.

That's because I'm thinking that the problem is slower RDS receiving.

The "good" news are that I'm having this issue with the Beta 3, that will help me to find the problem.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Polluxus:
With Beta-2 reloaded Igo still can't detect tmc hardware.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tthor:
I tried latest beta2 without success...

I remove Beta1, reset, install Beta2, reset.

This time, I can't get iGO finding TMC hardware, even at the first time.

Whereas with Beta1 everything work except the pb of second start in iGO.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zinger5:
i'm also now not able to detect hardware using the new beta 2 and the updated HyperGPS.dll.

First time I tried the updated beta 2 i had the same issue but it did work after uninstalling/reinstalling - after first use though it stopped working as before.

Cheers,

zinger5

edit: sorry meant to mention before - when Igo 8 attempts to detect the hardware I can hear the signal loud and clear but it comes up with Unable To Detect... - when it's not working on a second run i don't hear anything. Hope that helps in some way ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] creda:
Beta2 not working, Beta1 does

Beta 1 is working fine for me, the only thing i have to do is automatically scan for TMC hardware everytime a startup iGO. TMC signal is found.

But Beta 2 is not working. Hardware not found. And when set in settings.ini or sys.txt (saved_config_available=1", saved_config_classname="NMEA_GPSTMC_ROYALTEK",saved_config_portname="COM",saved_config_port="9") it looks like hardware is found, but no tmc signal.

I got back to Beta 1 for now.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
@beemerTPPC

Here are the logs with your latest hypergps.dll.

HyperGPS_1.log:

- delete the TMC config in iGO

- start hypergps driver

- start iGO and launch the detection of the TMC hardware

- TMC messages are received. I can see the name of the station

- close iGO

HyperGPS_2.log:

- hypergps driver is still active

- TMC config in iGO from the first test is still there

- start iGO (hardware is present)

- tuning is possible but there are no TMC messages. I can't see the name of the station
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] johnpatcher:
This time the installation worked just fine, no problems. Just a suggestion: Do you really need to link HyperGPS in the start menue? I have to deactive it on every re-install, but thats just not that important.

The recognition works as well, but unfortunately every station is supposed to have no TMC. I will try to find out whats wrong, and report it right then.

€dit: Now Igo doesn't detect the TMC hardware any more :( ...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
Thanks Loki, I'ts very interesting. But unfortunately the reason I'm starting to think on is not logged on this version of the dll.

I need two bits of information from your side:

-The rate of TMC reception that I currently can get from the log

-The RRSI level of reception (new dll will log it)

-If there are sound of the station on the headphones/speaker: please don't mute the radio for the test.

New more logged dll attached.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
DONATORS

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Thanks to Remko V. and Alexandre K. Believe me, this king of apreciation makes me keep doing efforst on the project!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
I don't understand what you want me to do. Your attached file is a log file not a dll...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] yoske:
i have stupid question. .

i cant understand did with hypergps i can listening fm radio over gps, or only messages?? and the another one is: how to instal on hp ipaq 614c, they cant load the driver ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
Sorry, I'm with the flu (not the bad one!) and not sure what I'm doing :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
@beemerTPPC

I hope you will recover soon!

For these logs I did the same procedure as before. When I ask iGO to detect the TMC hardware it failed 2 or 3 times before finding it the next time!

During the detect phase I can hear the radio twice for a short periode of time.

Hypergps is configured like this:

- port com9

- FM band: CCIR 87.5-108 MHz

- TMC data

- speaker

- Tuned sound

- manual
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] BB88:
but even in day-time, which frequency should I tune to to get the proper info? I tried in daytime and all still shows the same (no key, TMC state unknown) in IGO8
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] auxaux:
Just tested the renewed Beta2.

What I Did

- Uninstall Beta1

- Install Beta2

- Start Driver & Run test tool

- Test tool in HyperGPS displays TMC

- Start IGO --> NO TMC Signal found

- Close & Restart IGO --> TMC Signal found!!!!

- Close & Restart IGO --> No TMC Signal found

- Close & Restart IGO --> No TMC Signal found

- Close & Restart IGO --> No TMC Signal found

- Soft Reset (I didn't do it after uninstalling Beta1)

- Start driver

- Start IGO --> No TMC Signal found

- Close & Restart IGO --> TMC Signal found!!!!

- Close & Restart IGO --> TMC Signal found

- Close & Restart IGO --> No TMC Signal found

- Close & Restart IGO --> TMC Signal found

- Close & Restart IGO --> TMC Signal found

I Tried figuring out if I could reproduce the situation needed for getting the TMC signal in IGO. Not sure, but it looks like I have to wait about 20 seconds before going to the TMC configuraton in IGO in order to have everything working. When I go to this TMC configuration as soon as IGO is started, it will report that no TMC signal can be found.

I Noticed I can exit HyperGPS sometimes with OK in the right upper corner and sometimes with the exit X

So for me this version looks better than Beta1.

Thanks again...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Plattendoktor:
Beta2 Rel. -> no detection of the tmc hardware in IGO. :(

Beta1 -> detection in Igo but only tmc after changing the com port.

Go on with a work like that.

I like your encouragement!

:cool:​
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
There's a big problem with hypergps: when the driver is active and I turn off my Touch HD, I cannot turn it on after! Have to soft reset it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ageva:
same here, beta 2 - iGo can't find TMC hardware (it works on beta 1).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lame123:
Beta2 on XPERIA

very different behaviour to beta1....

with beta2 iGo can't find any TMC device when searching for it. It can tune when i manuelly set Royaltek, Port,.... in the system.ini file, but it can't find any TMC.

The results using the test-prog are very random... sometimes i can tune, sometimes i can't, sometimes i receive code 8 lines, sometimes i don't.

It's pretty unstable.... sometimes i start the driver and then everything loads REALLY slowly. Starting iGo can take a min. and shutting it down even longer!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] remko:
Sorry, but the last dll you posted is not doing very much. I cannot get a log file and iGo does not recognize it.

Primary thing is that you get better and deal with the issues with a clear head..;)

Grtz Remko
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] erups:
Beta 2 + modified dll

Not recognized

first it shows decoded RDS, then upon loading IGO and unloading IGO, it doesn't even tune a frequency.

It stays idle, without any frequency displayed, and without decoding.

Buttons don't do anytning, as well as manually entering a freq.

The driver is kind of stuck, while the frontend works ok.

Where can i find the log to post here?

I looked in windows, but it's not called hypergps.log...

Some more testing: the driver is still stuck.

I unloaded it many times, also changed the dll, but it still is stuck.

No tuning whatsoever.

Changed com port and still stuck.

Gonna try softreset.

A soft reset sblocked the tuning, now i can hear the radio but no RDS is decoded (usual channel 7 keep-alive but no real data decoded), signal strenght 15.

Oh and btw: get well soon. So i don't get frustrated that much :D and don't yell at you :D:D:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cupra TDI:
Deleting the gfmapi.dll /windows offered me the possibility to install beta2.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] OlivierTheBest:
On HTC DIAMOND beta 1 with IGO 8 TMC was working :

TMC receiver detected

Some TMC data received (more than 20 pages this morning, a few days ago I checked IGO advices in case of TMC reports on the travel ...)

On HTC DIAMOND beta 2 with IGO 8 TMC doesn't work :

TMC receiver not detected

Tests done several times before and after soft reset (HyperGPS beta 1 was desinstalled before beta 2 installation)

Anyway go on that's a great improvment.

Olivier
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
@remko

@erups

To enable logs, create a DWORD named LogMode and set it to 1 in the registry HKLM/Drivers/HyperGPS/

The log file will be in the root of your pocket pc
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cupra TDI:
Beta 2 is installable after deleting one file, but I cant get it to work with igo8.

I am unable to select the hardware in igo8.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] peron:
Any link to download the beta1 version?

Beta 2 on diamond just does not work (for me at least)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] erups:
Key created, but no log file in the root or windows folder.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Captain_Throwback:
Actually, L_o_k_i missed a word in there. See beemer's original post below:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] testuser0072:
Great soft beemer, unfortunately I am Polaris user, so I have still problem with driver on iGO8 and iGO Amigo. Don't know what wrong, everything works fine (beta1) and get TMC data except Navigation Soft. Both versions detect hardware but don't detect TMC data.

BTW - small trick for all iGO users: find a file called system.ini on the \memory card name\iGO8\save\ and edit it. Find the tmc section and edit it to reach your settings:

[tmc]

saved_config_available="0"

then make file attribute READ ONLY. Now with every start your iGO detect hardware and works fine (except Polaris :[ )
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
@Captain_Throwback

@remko

@erups

Sorry, my bad! LogMode is the right name!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fharni:
Great

It is a great tool. After deinstalling beta1 und deleting the gfmapi.dll I installed beta2 and it works perfectly in iGo8.

But I would like to use tmc in Navigon, so can you add a "change protokoll to gns" option?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] remko:
I know and I also created this reg key to get the log. The latest dll beemer posted here does not write a log at all. Nothing appearing under the root of the device. Tried several times...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mario661:
Beta 2

HyperGPS Beta 2,

Tested on P3700 NL (Diamond) - original 2.03 ROM - hard-resetted

iGO build 8.3.2.64029

Freq. 91.3FM

Can't get it to work. On COM9, modified the system.ini, iGO goes see the TMC, but no TMC data. Changing the port and letting iGO search results in no TMC receiver found.

Testing from within HyperGPS - works OK on freq. 91.3FM.

Hope this helps.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] atomera:
The same for me on Diamond.

Beta 2(1) and Alpha 3 don´t work
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
DONATORS

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Thanks to Michael V. I've been very busy locating the problem with the new API I use in the Beta3 (1.2b), but being stuck with a problem on it and needing the help of flywhc... I'll return to Beta 2 problems thanks to your push ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] erups:
Got a log here, (old dll) but it's rather inconclusive.

On first start no RDS data decoded at all.

On second start (changed from headset to speaker) RDS data decoded.

Would it be much too difficult to code in some frequency saving?

Like you set those 2 national frequencies and use buttons to load them?

Anyway here is the log, but it doesn't show much at all.

Gonna try with new dll.

Edit: as you can see the new dll is quite useless, it does not log anything more plus no decoding done.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
Seems that the second time you enter on iGO the radio doesn't power off correctly:

First time: FMPowerON, Result: 0 18/05/09 17:14:29

Second time: FMPowerON, Result: 31 18/05/09 17:21:57

That result=31 is the problem. Working on it, but I cannot reproduce on my device, I've to try to wonder why it happens!!!

A question: Once the second try is done without sucess, Could you use the test program before unloading the driver?, unloading and loading again the driver solves the issue?

Yes. At this stage the power management for the driver isn't implemented. It will be solved on future versions.

@All

I'm working hard to get a stable version on all the devices, once got, I'll fo to the rest of things like GNS, etc.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] erups:
Well if that's the problem i can reproduce it nearly any time!

Gimme an hyperlogging dll and i'll do whatever you want :)

I know how frustrating remotely debugging can be...

But i'm willing to help :P

Also about sound routing on 3650: it only works after the TMC hardware is detected by Igo. During the detection phase some "cracks" are generated, probably due to the software starting the radio or something else.

Until this happens, sound is output to the headset.

After the detection, or at least the scan, sound is correctly output to the speaker.

By the way i am currently using old dll (i think... or at least i should) but Igo fails to detect the hardware... mmmm

edit

here is a new log

i want you to have a look at lines

122

132

it first shows an FMPowerOn as to give 31 and then, on powering off, it shows the previous state to be 1.

Anyway the sequence of what you see is this.

Loading of the driver

opening of the hyperGPS interface (and here the TMC is decoded)

closing of the interface

loading of igo with auto scan for the TMC hardware

no hardware found

3 or 4 manual searches

unloading of igo

loading of the hypergps interface

no decoding

exit with driver unload

hope this helps
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] remko:
Same here..!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
I've added beta 1 to the first post for those with Beta 2 issues.

Please Loki & erups & others, cound you try again with this dll?

I'm trying to see what causes the radio not to power on after igo exits.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] redvil:
hi guys

in Data output with igo8 and diamond what option I have to set? thanks a lot
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] remko:
Sorry again, but the last version as well, does not write a log file, but even worse: iGo locks again at 0.0 MHz and the Test utility does not work either...

EDIT: I found one problem on my device: somehow the last character of the regkey name was a space... That's why logs where not created. Testing again and will report later.

EDIT2: Ok tested again but not with very good results:

Log1: Driver started, iGo with "saved_config_available=1", hardware found but locked at 0.0 MHz.

Started test afterwards: no channel found.

Log2: Driver started, iGo without the saved config could not find a TMC receiver at all...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
remko,

The issue in your logs is that the FM radio is not correctly powered on on most tries. Does it work with the test program?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Plattendoktor:
Could it be a problem with the headset? I mean, when you plug it in?

Could it be that we have to plug the headset (antenna) before starting the driver?

This could be the same issue why HTC want it when you start "FM Radio".
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] remko:
If I start with the test utility I can receive channels and TMC data in the Test utility. If I start up iGo it will give the described behaviour. If I start the Test utility afterwards, this cannot find channels anymore either.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] redvil:
help please....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gauner1986:
Nice program beemer.

Will think about a donation if you get it to work stable and i'm having enough money (poor student..).

I'm using the beta 1 version for now and just renamed the gfmapi.dll to lowercase in the Windows folder. Now i don't have to reinstall after every softreset and TMC works at least sometimes..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] erups:
in nuiversity without the headset.

Gonna try when i get back home.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ToddeSwe:
Someone Swedish iGO user here...?

Hi!

Someone here who's Swedish igo user who has gotten this to work?

Having problem and need some help...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tynor:
I have a HTC Touch HD with newest iGO8 version im from Denmark and i can't get either beta 1 or beta 2 to work. iGO8 won't detect any TCM Hardware, how can this possibly be?

If i run the test in HyperGPS i can see that it finds some TMC signals (8)...

Im trying with CCIR (?) and Port 9.

Data output: TMC Data
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] vrowdy:
Beta 2 isn't working on my Xperia X1, always 'no TMC hardware found'.

Beta 1 did work fine, besides the 'known-issues'.

Keep up the great work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Oemie:
I really don't get how it is possible everybody has got so many problems??

I am using beta 1 for a couple of days now and it works all the time, and it works good!

The only thing i have to do is make Igo find the hardware after each time i start igo, but the rest of it is great.

The thing i did was put the line [tmc] saved_config_available="0" in sys.TXT (so not in the .ini file, i once deleted tmc stuff from the .ini file), i don't know if Igo wrote something in it again by itself.

Now what i do is after powering on my device (that has windows mobile 6.5) i activate the driver and when it is running i close the programm trhough the right cross in the corner (i don't let the program do test or let it search, just activate driver and close program).. I have the headphone in, or put it in after that (it makes no difference).

Then i start up IGO, to tmc and put the royal tec and com 9 in and let Igo search.

When Igo has found the hardware i go to the channel list and Igo is already searching for TMC because i have auto search on. Then it finds all the stations that have tmc and all the tmc messages come in.

(I noticed it is IMPORTEND to have good reception, otherwise Igo will skip TMC channels whether it has tmc or not.

In my house i have to stand nearby the window otherwise no TMC will be found!!) In my car i always have good reception!! i am using the htc headphone).

When i am on the road Igo sometimes looses TMC channel, but auto searches and always finds another one. I think there are 5 or 6 channels that broadcast TMC in Holland (it all works the same as with my old GNS hardware tmc receiver that i used to use on another device that also had Igo and Navigon). So it is pretty much the same now...

When i quit Igo and restart again, Igo has to find hardware again because of my line written in sys.txt.

But it finds hardware and everything is working again...No matter soft reset (before soft reset or power of always quit the driver) or just start second time it always works.

The time i don't need the driver i quit it with the same program. I pull the headphone out so it does not take long before driver is deactivated!

When i need it again i start procedure from the beginning and it is working flawless..

By the way i am using windows mobile 6.5 and i have touch HD;)

beemerTPPC you are a true genius!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] remko:
That is the problem Beemer is trying to solve and when you are programming, changing something often introduces another mistake or error somewhere else in the program. That's why it's so difficult. The bigeest problem then is that Beemer doesn't have a Touch HD and therefore cannot reproduce this issue. All debugging is done remote....

Grtz Remko
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] peron:
For you it is working well because you did not upgrade to beta 2 :D:D

Anyway, with beta1 it works for me too.

Things to fix :

- auto load of the driver

- iGO to remember the settings (is it an iGO bug?)

- HyperGPS seems to draw a lot of batter power

Outstanding questions:

- Can the car charger function as an antenna? The cable is plenty long.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] matthijsvankeulen:
Both beta 1 and 2 do not work on my touch hd. For some reason I never see $RTTMC,8.... It's always $RTTMC,7........

I followed the steps written in the first post.

I'm in the Netherlands and the frequency 92.6 should have TMC, but it's not found. The first time I used Beta 1 it found TMC on 92.6, but now it doesn't.

I'm new to this TMC so could it be that a TMC signal isn't always recievible?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] peron:
I'm in NL too, 92.6 (Radio2) gives me TMC info. Tried last night and this morning.

Using a Diamond.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Oemie:
TMC is 24/7 receivable, the only thing is due to the weather for example sometimes the reception is more weak. When that happens Igo won't find TMC messages. In my neighborhood reception is always very good, but when i ma driving i noticed sometimes TMC is gone!

So when your house is on that place, you never going to receive tmc, but in that case it has nothing to do with the driver or IGO..Th signal is just to weak!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aszotten:
Yes, I have it working with beta 1, with the known workaround that I have to reconfiger every time I start igo. I get TMC data from SR P3. It is not 100% stable, but what can you expect from a beta version.

Touch HD with 1.14 Swedish standard OS.

//Awi
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
run iGO

search for TMC hardware: no success!

close iGO

run HGPSClient, then test program: TMC is received

close HGPSClient

run iGO

search for TMC hardware: no success

run HGPSClient, then test program: TMC is received

close HGPSClient

go back to iGO

search for TMC hardware: no success!

run HGPSClient

unload driver, load driver

close HGPSClient

go back to iGO

search for TMC hardware: no success!

I don't know what's going on. Sometime I have to search for the TMC several times before iGO can find it...

OK.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
after using the latest dll iGO failed 3 times
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Atpat:
Got beta 2 running on HD in Hungary.

TMC messages broadcast on 94.8 MHz MR2 are received fine.

Respect Beemer ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] micalb:
Beta 2 still have problem on second start of iGO for me