yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G1 Android Development] setzer715:
You Guys Rock!
[G1 Android Development] bestwebs:
Hi,

Everyone is doing a great job in modding these firmwares.

I am a big supporter of the Haykuro 5.02Hr5.

All the innovations that these programmers have brought to the G1 are truly phenomenal.

Many thanks to all!

:) :) :)
[G1 Android Development] twistedumbrella:
It dissapoints me to read this post. I thanked you in the past but you have become nothing more than a child in my eyes. You built nothing from the ground up. You simply used what you found and pieced it together, much like a puzzle. Fixing broken pieces along the way.

We have three builds currently, four if you count both google and HTC separately. Of them, what ones are currently running properly? They are not yours, nor are they Dudes. They are the ones you have been taking parts from all along. I am sorry to be so blunt, but this sickens me. We are a community!

You did not credit the most important source properly. The testers. The people who found the faults. The people who sacraficed their devices to further your endeavor. My build is no better, which is why I credit noone. But if you look at it, it will show the point I make now...

Two people can make the same software. One works for browsing and one works for location. Will you be able to see the page of a location? No. Will you map out directions from the page that updates as you move? No. But if you combine the two, you will. Stop being a brat. No offense, but this is why your most recent work is nothing worth loading to me. I know it will never be complete because you want it to be yours far more than you want it to be good.

Again, sorry to be so harsh. But with this I hope you grow and learn. Stop worrying who credits who. Satisfaction is the completed project. If noone had a G1, would you still have done it simply for yourself?
[G1 Android Development] haykuro:
much like the child you claim me to be, you begin bickering over something that was plainly stated. I mentioned each source, and where it came from in the opening post. And now, i did not "piece together" a bunch of builds. Daproy, dream_kill, fnord, Darkrift, JesusFreke, and myself have sat various hours working out problems that are at a kernel level (have you ever heard of compiling your own ****? possibly not.) and other stuff that just requires some standard *nix knowledge (i doubt you built your own operating system, and hope no one decides to spend that much time to prove a point. Debian/Slackware/etc, are all basis, just as i use the magic firmwares as my base.)

exactly. we are a community, and as such i have given those that have worked hard credit. "what ones are currently running properly" ADP1.5Hr3, please go use it and enjoy it :) it's about as stable as you can get. it's simply ADP 1.5 with root functionality and other nice goodies.

I think i choked a little laughing at this statement. Your build? You couldn't even rebuild the damn boot image

adb shell cat /readme.txt

thanks for the props :)

A guilty man always enjoys pointing fingers.

I attempted to pull a logical point out of this assertion, and found none. :rolleyes: Mine and Dude's latest builds work almost perfectly, the only "bugs" you may experience are slight audio issues (which exist in both, and again, is a kernel problem. if you'd like to solve it, be my guest).

You're right. **** it! Who cares about who did what? I should just go replace 3 files in Windows 7 and sell it for my own profit as "Windows 7-Twisted" Who cares? As long as people are satisfied. :p

And yes, i would have simply done it for myself. This whole project began as doing it for myself. If you bothered reading, the only reason this was posted publicly is because i wanted the XDA forums to be able to see my progress with what they refused to listen to me about. It later blew up into what we see today.

Please keep your guilt to yourself.
[G1 Android Development] ESKIMOn00b:
so if i go and buy a puzzle and its missing or has broken pieces and i bust out my jigsaw and cut out the missing or wrong pieces that i need, i didnt do anything? some magical puzzle leprechaun came along and put in all that effort?

and therefor by your reasoning builders shouldnt be thanked or credited only the architects seeing as all theyre doing is following some instructions and putting together pieces.... sounds like some pretty flawed logic to me...

im sure if he had the only G1 he would have done it for himself and it probably would have taken half the time, effort and headache, i applaud him for releasing it and keeping it current, and admire him and the community for supporting it. dont you think he would rather not have a bunch of PM's, e-mails, posts... asking for help, whining about bugs, asking STUPID questions? in fact the last thing he needs is @$$#*!&$ like you giving him problems...

just my .02 and more

\rant
[G1 Android Development] ESKIMOn00b:
well damn the devil him self beat me to the punch... how i wish it were a real one rather than a virtual one
[G1 Android Development] justanothercrowd:
Thanks Haykuro. Sorry if this molehill turned into a mountain. I've edited my post because this is getting out of hand and I feel bad for saying anything in the first place. I didn't realize people would take such issue.
[G1 Android Development] haykuro:
very well put :) and yes, i am a firm believer in the magical puzzle leprechaun.
[G1 Android Development] robpet2:
Haykuro thank you for all the hard work, and to all that help contribute to us users and testers to have cupcake / magic rom prior to release...

Its exciting to have new software before the general public whom have not gotten the cupcake update from tmobile yet..

forget the haters and naysayers and keep doing good work..
[G1 Android Development] ESKIMOn00b:
he's one sneaky lil ****er
[G1 Android Development] BSDADON:
what happened to just saying thank you and moving on? or if you didn't deem a thank you necessary, (which i don't understand :confused:) just building a bridge and getting over it. and robpet2 i'm in 1000% agreement with your post
[G1 Android Development] doooshty:
I'm with Haykuro on this one. I have been following since the xmoo days and I know what he has gone through with this. I have tried every build he has released. I was even rockin it out when aHome was the only launcher.

Twisted makes me think of a guy jumping in a marathon 100meters before it ends and then starts complaining when everyone else starts thanking thier coaches and trainers. "I finished too, I didn't need a coach and I was faster than you!"

Haykuro's been running the whole damn race...

and you still can't catch him.

oh...and magic puzzle leprechaun FTW!
[G1 Android Development] smuvman:
THANKS!

if haykuro can fight as well as he can build a rom id hate to be twisted lol anyways thanx a bunch to EVERYONE on this forum. Im sure we ALL share the same feeling when we show our friends family etc how much better our G1's are compared to their "regular" ones. Nothin better than being able rotate my screen turn up the volume on my stereo bluetooth headset while my cousin gets his headphone cord stuck in his coat zipper!
[G1 Android Development] TemporalShadows:
The work being done here is pretty awesome.

I have a solid grasp of the fundamentals of this stuff, but I can't do what you guys do as far as building and hacking the stuff together. I'd love to learn, but don't have the time (I've started a few times, but couldn't stay with it!)

Also...I thought it was apparent from the beginning that Haykuro, Dude, JF, and everyone else was working together on all of this stuff? I still don't get why anyone thought there was "competition" between everyone. Yeah they all made alternative builds...but they each brought something different to the table, and that was the point!

Anyway, thanks to everyone for the work. My phone is much more fun to use because of it. :)
[G1 Android Development] froggg:
I would also lie to thank everyone involved in the cupcake epidemic. I myself am grateful for everyone at xda. I'm a computer science student and as soon as my java, c# skills are developed, i know i have a home, where i can get an educated opinion of my work. Not only that, reading these threads give me hope for humanity because there are complete strangers willing to teach people they have never met.

Here's to ya.
[G1 Android Development] f00bar:
lol @ asking permission to use firmware/binaries that noone has a legal right to distribute
[G1 Android Development] Jrbourque:
riiiiggghht but wouldn't be flashing it to your phone if it wasnt for him BUILDing

the rom.
[G1 Android Development] MarcusMaximus04@gmail.com:
A: This is a community, what he said isn't about laws, it's about mutual respect and courtesy

B: Android is open source. Everyone has the right to distribute and redistribute it to their heart's desire.
[G1 Android Development] MarcusMaximus04@gmail.com:
Seriously? You seem to know nothing about making software. Building software is almost entirely using "what you found and pieced it together, much like a puzzle. Fixing broken pieces along the way." In fact, if it mentioned computers at all that would practically be a perfect definition for the software engineering process. Furthermore, his 1.5Hr3 works perfectly and I've been rocking it since it came out and will continue to do so.
[G1 Android Development] galize:
Merci

I would like to thank you first. It was very easy to improve our phone from your build, but it seems to me too blackbox. I mean, it's work great but no ideas why or how.

My wish is to read a little more of your work. What have blocked you ? Wich way do you have investigate ?

I'm not sure xda is the perfect place for it, i will continue googling and reading and soaping my hands.
[G1 Android Development] FearlessG1:
With this statement I will not be using any of your builds or making any donations. I give my thanks to dev's through donations but don't like credit whores. True open source dev's don't need ego stroking threads.
[G1 Android Development] ESKIMOn00b:
Ego stroking? I read the title and immeadeatly laughed.... its a ****ing joke you tight wads.... he's joking about the fact that people think dude and haykuro are competing, stealing work from one another ect... he's just trying to get it all out in the open cuz he DOESN'T want credit for others peoples work
[G1 Android Development] tannyfiles:
Thanks so much guys for the brilliant work you people are doing...thanx a ton...!!!
[G1 Android Development] derekedw:
OMG..someone..a dev...has pride or ego....its the end of the world!!!!!

Nothing wrong with a little pride or ego. It's pride and ego that turns regular ordinary work into something better.

Hell...it was your ego that even prompted you to respond....If you had no ego over this, you would have made your decision and let it go, but no, you had to publicly announce how you felt.

Ego is all around us and in all of us. It's why we function. Ego can be negative, but very positive things come from it as well. You must first understand that we are all human and by definition imperfect. If you're expecting perfection from anyone, you might as prepare for a lifetime of disappointment.

Haykuro...screw em....who cares...have some of your ego for breakfast..and lunch. You've done a good thing for the community here and the G1/Android users desperate to unlock the potential of this project.
[G1 Android Development] haykuro:
Well, it seems people fail to see sarcasm.

Be that as it may, i'm not here to fight or make enemies. This thread was made for informative purposes. If being told the truth makes you angry, please go back to mommy and ask her "why isn't life fair?"

EDIT: jealousy seems to be rampant as well. those who can point a finger and claim "who gives a ****" are the ones that failed at distributing there own builds.
[G1 Android Development] haykuro:
NO, please! I need your acception and donations! I need you to upgrade your phone to have video recording capabilities, wifi tethering, and root! It ruins me inside when you don't :(

yup.. giving credit to everyone strokes my ego juuust right. :rolleyes:
[G1 Android Development] haykuro:
You, sir, get cookie points. :)
[G1 Android Development] ESKIMOn00b:
Cookie points? GOODIE, maybe I can spend them with the magical puzzle leprechaun...

Wonder if he has any good ROM's for sale... lol
[G1 Android Development] giantcrazy:
True open source dev's give to the community excellent products and don't expect to be paid in return.

To me, you've all lived up to that criteria. A big thanks to you all, for your hard work and for maximizing the investment that I've made in this phone. You guys ROCK!
[G1 Android Development] kathi17:
That is exactly how I read the title of this thread and what Haykuro posted. I agree that he and the Dude, (who also posted a similar thing a while back), needed to point out that they are all working together.

If everyone had twisted's mentality, we wouldn't even have root!

Thanks to everyone, from JF making it easy to have rooted builds all the way to Xmoo for this rom, and to Haykuro and the Dude for making it work on our phones and giving us a choice!
[G1 Android Development] Christopher3712:
Back on topic, thank each of you for all the hours put in, the late nights, the tolerance for noobs, the quick response to the increasing demands of a rapidly growing community, and most importantly...

the desire to see a better product.

Mighty thanks go out to all the legions of XDA members who are willing to test out new ROMs and spend their time posting their thoughts and findings online. We all probably have better things we could be doing.

--With exception to FearlessG1 and twistedumbrella who:

a) Probably have no friends

b) Don’t associate with the outside world, therefore lack the necessary social skills to communicate properly in an open forum

c) More than likely were the kids that ended the game and took the ball home when things weren't going their way.

/hater bashing.

Simply put, you guys must be doing something right - I've been putting up with nagging from my girlfriend for weeks because these builds are killing her chances at getting laid. :)
[G1 Android Development] xyrcncp:
You know, I was typing a reply that pointed these things out and then I thought, "maybe I won't reply and just say THANKS to the dev guys who have made this happen". Why didn't I post it? Because I started thinking about all the pansy posters who get butthurt when someone posts something like that. I should have posted it :p

So, again, thanks to all the Devs for making things happen :D
[G1 Android Development] Christopher3712:
roflmao, sometimes you just gotta leave the pansies butthurt.
[G1 Android Development] MarcusMaximus04@gmail.com:
Then you know nothing about open source devs. Please don't talk about things you A: don't know and B: have no experience with. MANY open source devs have HUGE egos. Of course they do, without having a huge ego, you don't believe in yourself enough to accomplish anything great. Thus why you see massive egos in: science, medicine, software, etc. etc. etc. All these fields are incredibly tough and without a huge ego to support you, you can't accomplish anything. And before you say I don't know what I'm talking about: my comp sci degree, job as a Software Engineer, and numerous threads around here(including an open source project) would beg to differ with you.
[G1 Android Development] alapapa:
I have to say the amount of ego stroking i've witnessed since dream development really took off has drastically paled in comparison with the leetness displayed by those involved.

One million times, "Thank you!" to everyone involved in making my phone better!
[G1 Android Development] vivid007:
BOH!!!!!! the android community is solid... that's why Motorola is behind it.

it reminds me of when flash first came out, and the sheer creativity that was unleased

keep it up :)
[G1 Android Development] uberingram:
Internets is serious business.
[G1 Android Development] aagvain:
which to choose......haykuro's, dudes, jf's build, none at all, etc. the beauty of free will.

thanks to all with the knowledge for sharing what you dont have to........cuz i cant compile squat!
[G1 Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Haykaru responded as an 11th grader would. Wah wah point out how he's better than me wah wah. And the rest took it as the followers in a group, being led only by the word os the leaser. None of you understood the message. The message was not saying Haykaru didn't do any work. I even said I thanked him in the past. The point was STOP DRAWING LINES between who does what. He started to get that, but imediately reverted to *****ing.

Architects and builders... Yes. Architects do not claim to build, but builders cannot claim the design itself either. Puzzles and pieces? Yes. But you don't take a jigsaw. You get a second puzzle and take the missing pieces from one and add them to the other.

My boot? No. I never claimed ownsership. I said that. What you missed is I called it a BUILD. A recombination of existing source. Whatever. I have friends, hence wanting a working phone. But I don't want to have to bow to the gods every time I click download. Get over yourself.

As for your reply, much like why you claim you started this endevour, will be for yourself. I see no reason to visit this thread again. I am trying to explain things in a way only those with the capacity to see beyond the computer screen will understand. Ironically the same insult you throw so callously at me fits you so well. Again, sorry I am misunderstood and sorry you were never thanked enough to silence the desire for recognition.
[G1 Android Development] MrOuch:
Overall, great work!
[G1 Android Development] ESKIMOn00b:
That sir is exactly my point... your the type of person who goes out and buys another puzzle, haykuro on the other hand had the knoledge and tools to make his own pieces which is great to see people who aren't just ok with the bs we get from corporate industrialized 21st century..
[G1 Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Let me clarify... get another puzzle that may also be missing pieces, from a friend or thrift store (Google, haha). Just a different set are absent. To break it down for you... Why try so hard to fix one broken program... Like HTCLauncher when there is no real difference between that and Launcher. Just throw some graphics over and BAM. Emeril style. You people need to learn to read things without such a hostile interpretation. Only then you might get I am trying to help. Yes, I took my shot at Haykuro. But the rest was a lesson. The shot ended at about the third sentence. But that is what I get when typing.
[G1 Android Development] tsowen:
Alright folks lets play nice and get along and be respectful to each other. All this he did, she did, no I did or we did stuff could have went in the specific thread of the created application, software of whatever the case may be in the CREDIT section instead of creating a thread like this that is bound to create argument.
[G1 Android Development] Wisefire:
Nice to know who does and did what. It's also nice to see people can work together seemingly to get something so grand done and out to the public, Thanks.
[G1 Android Development] haykuro:
Right. The kernel made itself, the scripts made themselves, and the various other additions.. all made themselves. What a wonderful thing the HTC Magic really is. I understand why they call it the Magic. It's truly magical! It hacks itself.. what an innovation. Not only that, it ports itself over to the dream. That's truly amazing.
[G1 Android Development] haykuro:
Sorry to have bothered the mods. This thread was made, instead of adding on to the previous threads, because the confusion was spreading like wild fire. I felt that to end other arguments ("Dude stole from haykuro!", etc..) this would be the best way to do so.

If you feel otherwise, please feel free to lock/delete/close this thread.

I'm not here to cause trouble :)
[G1 Android Development] sensimila:
Thank you very much for all the hard work that you put into android. I don't really post that much but I have learned a lot from xda forum lurking around. one day i will be able to code something and learn from the best of the best.
[G1 Android Development] chicojd:
I had the pleasure of resting 4.9 when paid apps had not worked. I had only found 4.5 a few days earlier. I had no idea he was 17, just that he was first to get cake to the masses. Has he had help? Sure, as he has helped others. These guys didn't have to do ANY of this and aren't getting paid, except in gratitude and some donations. I think that twisted is pissed because he was late to the party. Thanks a heap Haykuro.

Now, DONATE to your favorite builder so they can buy some chips ahoy.
[G1 Android Development] driguez:
Thank you guys for your hard work. I get the post and the point. I will just point out though too many bold I's might give your post the wrong impression. Anyhow im enjoying your build, ty.
[G1 Android Development] tsowen:
Discussion is okay as long as we are all acting like grown adults here and not turing it from a discussion or clearing the air to a bashing thread.
[G1 Android Development] d0nkey:
HAY GUYS WHATS GOING ON IN THIS THREAD>?

I rate this thread -7.

And I didn't see Saurik's name mentioned anywhere...
[G1 Android Development] eladkatz:
can you plz answer this question:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=511153

pros and cons of each release...
[G1 Android Development] Jocutz1987:
yo wuz up

hey guys thanks for your hard work i will b spreading the word about ur work in florida ok cuz i think what u guys have created is outstanding work so thanks againg and were can i get adp 5.0.2.hr3 apps on sd
[G1 Android Development] METHOD1911:
AND MAY I ADD twistedumbrella KICK ROCKS AND KEEP IT MOVING HATS OFF TO U HAYRUKO AND THANKS TO ALL OF THE GUYS MENTIONED FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU HAVE DONE
[G1 Android Development] bolmedias:
Necropost much? The last post was almost a month ago.
[G1 Android Development] jubeh:
I must say, i thought most people were aware that these custom roms were really frankenbuilds and that there was actually very little coding required to come up with them, as haykur0 said. A solid background in -nix is far more important.

I do think we owe haykuro, jesus freke (him mostly because he gave us root genesis), the dudes, etc who's worked on either a frankenbuild, or a theming patch, or anything else a big thanks because of the time they've dedicated to getting these things to the sometimes-ungrateful forum-dwellers delivered, and in several ocassions fixed, if you've ever tried to make your own flavor of linux (which this is akin to), then you know that it's often grueling experience to get everything working right, so thanks for your time guys.

I've been lurking these forums for a while (i only have a bit of background in -nix systems and c++, basic, and java programming, so it's not like i had much to contribute), and i've had the displeasing chance to witness first the fanboyism, and now the feelings of entitlement of several users here, they MUST have their rom.

You want Rosie? learn to code. Google has a well documented api, so go over to their website, learn it, and make your own UI that's even better than Rosie. If you're not willing to go through the trouble, then wait for somebody else to do it, but you are not owed it, so don't be an ingrate.

Haykuro, I do have a slight piece of advice for you. You'll never please everybody, and trying to do so usually blows up in your face. I'd suggest you stick to a release schedule instead, both for build and fixes. It really keeps the daily grind of "where's my rom, where's my rom, gimme my rom" down.
[G1 Android Development] bolmedias:
You do realise that Haykuro has publicly stated that he's ceased development on Hero, right?
[G1 Android Development] jubeh:
I am aware. I also know that after he announced it, he's posted at least 2 new threads, maybe dragging the subject even further. I don't want to sound like an a-hole or sound like i'm calling his bluff, but i don't think he's leaving for good, but a hiatus is a good idea. If, and when, he does come back, he should stick to a release schedule.