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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] astrell:
Hello m8s,

Still no luck! Moreover, when I try to use the built in FM radio, I get an "unexpected error" message!

Now, if I soft reset the THD, the FM redio functions well. Of course I then have to copy the two .dll files to the windows folder and delete the log. And now, to my greatest surprise - 'cause I am doing this on the fly - I can again see the frequency and the signal strength on the test screen AND listen to the radio constantly.

Now, I select "set",I do not close the test screen, launch IGO8, and start the TMC setting procedure. For a while NOT THE PRESET FREQUENCY is displayed, then the whole TMC receiver search starts with no luck.

Then I launched IGO8 again, and I succeeded in getting TMC messages - but I had constant radio reception, I mean I heard the radion continuously although I set the mute function. I quit IGO8 launched again, and no more TMC receiver available.

Sorry guys for my long text, my only aim is to supply information to the highly appreciated beemer tppc.

regards

astrell
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lpad:
because i had some problems in my polaris i did a hard reset and then i started to work with HGPSCLIENT. Finaly:eek:, the Test recieved o lot of $RTTMC messages. It has been the first time, before i only recieved them in XFM. Until now i´ve been able to recieve the messages twice in the HGPSCLIENT test (tested 6 times). The sound is good now also.:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 4irm:
thatswhy you've got a repley already --> THE OTHER THREAD

regards

irm
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
DONATIONS

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Thanks to Mario van den Heuvel, Stefan Manzke and Marcel Cerveny for their donations. I was so happy that I just finished the setup dll debuging and now the cab file works OK.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] w04g005:
Hey beemerTPPC, have you read the posts from many polaris users (like me)?

We all suffer from the same problem...what can (i) we do to help solving this problem(s)?

Does it help if we upload a dll or any device related file?

thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rvdgeer:
Does this mean a cabbed up alpha 3 will be out soon?

Not trying to rush you, but just trying to find out if this is what you're saying...

;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] flywhc:
This is fmradio for HD:

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=183564&d=1241743319

do not use FMradio.exe but copy other two dll files into your windows folder see if it is improved.

if not, or doesn't work at all, rename/delete them and reboot you would recover. there is a risk of hard reset.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] LittleH79:
I have a Touch HD and I must say that everything is running pretty good!!

Beemer, you've done an execellent job my friend :D

For others who have problems with a HD, these are my settings (which may help you)

I'm running Dutty's 3.3 Extreme, Igo 8.3.2.xxxx.

Driver is running on virtual port 9.

I receive TMC om multiple channels over here in Holland.

Best for me is 88.6 MHZ.

When I run Igo, I close HyperGPS en even don't let it running in the background.

But maybe most important is that i've cut the wire off an old headset, left about 25 cm of cable to get best results.

Alpha 2 driver is working much much better for me. Faster, and a little bit more stable. It still crashes sometimes, but Igo redetects it automatically.

But hey, it's an alpha release no :).

Hope maybe this helps my fellow HD owners.

Thankz again Beemer!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
HyperGPS Alpha-3 is out!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] swoop_xda:
You are the man, beemer. Shall I take it this is the thread for TMC on HD instead of http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=511838 ? Keep it up, please. I really value your efforts. ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gongoscho:
HyperGPS Alpha 3 - Problem

Hello, i have a Problem with Alpha 3.

Where i can find it after instal? i instal to device!

gongo
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
I didn't knew the existence of that thread, and I think it is not good to have a thread that simply duplicates this one: it is not updated fastly with the latest releases and we divide the feedback loosing valuable information.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
Under "Programs", as any other application ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gongoscho:
sry the problem is: i can`t instal the cab:

Error: Installation was unsuccessful. The programm or settings cannot be installed because it does not have sufficient system premissions

before alpha 3 i have alpha 2 installed..

*edit*

i delete the old files: GFMAPI.DLL and HyperGPS.dll and now works
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] camro:
great job:

my tests:

1.) Audio output

-> switching to headset or speaker -> FIXED

-> Mute Radio: switching mute or sound -> NOT WORKING for me (HTC HD) its always mute.

(IS for me no bug, because i don't want to hear the radio signal or listen to radio for a TMC driver)

EDIT:only some kraks i heard if it is set to "tuned sound" in IGO... - maybe this is wanted in this kind ...)

2.) Disabling TMC drive (with headset connected)

-> long duration if headset is plugged in-> NOT FIXED

3.) IGO8

-> automatic scaning of sender -> FIXED

-> Audio Output headset or speaker -> FIXED

-> receiving TMC data in IGO -> NOT WORKING ANYMORE

(now not possible anymore ...(will try to find out why ...)

-> losing the connection to TMC driver -> FIXED

if these steps are working - it would be amost perfect :)

congrat. - great JOB :)

cu camel

EDIT:

PLS: maybe this a problem of my develop ROM to trace through finding disabling driver etc.

i will make now a HR and will do my tests with a clean system once again
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
No, I can assure you that this is not fixed, in fact, it is still not coded ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] camro:
hmm - in IGO - then aoutomatic sender works ...

but it is very seious on my ROM.

now i started the FMradio and after that the testprogramm does complete differ react ..

hmm - a lot of things to test now ...

cu camel
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] str0nz0:
with version alpha 3, igo does not receive any tmc information in the first 2 minutes. i use the same frequency like in the tool which shows me that tmc is available, but igo reports "no tmc signal". after 2 minutes or so, it begins detecting, but the signal gets lost again.

redirecting sound output to speaker does not work. sometimes the radiosound comes out of the speaker for a second, and disappears again.

i hope this helps to get a beta out sometime...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Lucas0511:
beemer, I have the same problem as camro, no more TMC fix in iGO ("No TMC signal"). Before Alpha3 I always had a quick fix in iGO. Also the iGO scanning page will not change to manual configuration of port and protocol settings anymore if no TMC frequency can be found.

TMC works in HyperGPS test environment, very quick fix.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] johnpatcher:
I don't understand it power consumption concerns at all. TMC is meant to be used in a car, and you can charge your device in a car, so where it the problem?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] anryl:
how do i connect the car charger with the headsets for antena ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] johnpatcher:
As I'm using a Blackstone I haven't got this issue :p, but I think it was already told how to build such an adapter, wasn't it?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aszotten:
TMC data

I have notices one thing using beta 5. When using "Use Auto-tuner" it does not find any TMC data. I have to untick this box and use a manually entered station. Then it finds the TMC data

//Awi
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] auxaux:
well actually:

when starting the drive with 100% battery and driving for 2 hours with IGO and HyperGPS on, while being charged from the car, the battery power left was still 10%.So it seems it takes more energy than the carcharger can charge
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Fire69:
http://cgi.ebay.com/4in1-USB-Adapte...66:2|39:1|72:1205|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50

There you go. Now you can donate! :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] krt.ecek:
Yes, I use this, without headphone with Beta 5, works fine:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pili21181:
thanks

@beemer

i'm using beta 5 since you release it with hgps switch, tested it today in international travel with i go 8.3 and automatic tmc, works perfectly.

thanks and drink a cup of coffee for me.

waiting for this for 2 years i'm so happy.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] majB:
After trying all other releases without any joy I can confirm that b5 is now working on my HTC touch HD without any problems. Beemer thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] peron:
This adapter lets you use both car charger and headphones

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350211477854

However for the ones that fail to understand why power consumption still needs to be fixed, if you do not have a strong charger (more than 0.5A) it will not keep up with the load and eventually your battery will discharge.

Also, for the people living in warmer countries, more power usage = more heat!

Inside a car and behind the windshield it can get pretty hot and you cannot always move the device away from the sun.

This can cause the device to hang.

Personally I use tomtom on battery when driving for short distances, it is very handy. 30 minutes of tomtom will only use up 15-20% of battery power.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Oemie:
I don't know what country you live, but i bought a genuine HTC carcharger in Holland for 15 euro's, and i can drive around the world with iGO with hyper tmc driver on.

When i afterwards leave the car my HTC always is charged 100%. The HTC charger is 2A in stead of 0,5A (500 mA), and that's the trick..:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sonydesouza:
Nice work THANKSSSSSSSSSS !:cool:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] datin:
TMC on Polaris

On Touch Cruise 1 (Polaris) version Beta5 works better than previous, but still is not ideal...

After device restart Igo detect TMC device, but not see any TMC data and RDS (no names of stations)

But... it is enought to uninstall and install beta5 back and it is OK again (to next restart)

anyway thanks for development of great application :-)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] astrell:
Hi m8s,

Beta5 works like a charm. The battery consumption is heavy though.

Thanks beemer, the donation was worth every penny :)

I have a minor problem nevertheless.

I cannot use the FmRadio on my Touch Hd even if the HyperGps driver is unloaded. I get an "Unexpected error!" message. The only way to use the FmRadio is to remove HyperGps app. and S/R.

Has anyone else faced this?

Any clues?

Thnx in advance and regards

astrell
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] AnnieBal:
To Oemi:

When using the original HTC car charger, do You still need to connect the earphone as well to get the FM radio or TMC going? Or can You use the radio with only the car charger plugged into the phone? I hope that the charger cable acts like an antenna for the radio.... Maybe You can tell me where You ordered it?

Regards,

André
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lacasi:
@astrell

Hi m8s,

.....

I cannot use the FmRadio on my Touch Hd even if the HyperGps driver is unloaded.

Hi astrell,

I can use FM Radio after ending of iGO (after 1 min).

Earphone removed and plugged in tne phone for hearing FM Radio.

TOUCH HD

lacasi
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Fire69:
You have to wait long enough before starting the FMRadio!

Unplug the earphones, this helps unload the driver much faster!

Wait for 1 minute, plug in the earphones again, and the radio show work fine. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] astrell:
@lacasi and Fire69

Thank you folks! I seemed to have been rather impatient:)

Now it works just fine. Thanx again.

astrell
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 69Morph69:
Hey guys, great work!

It works flawlessly though I have an issue on using it on my Touch HD.

While I choose "Speaker" as sound output when starting the driver (beta 5), iGO 8.3.2.91272 still only gives sound over the headphones I have plugged in. I want the iGO sound output to be over speaker. Without the headphones I get no reception whatsoever so they're necessary :(

Any suggestions?

I've tried switching to "Headphones" (maybe it was a bug) but without succes...

Thanks for the replies! :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
@69Morph69

Hi,

Select "speaker" in HGPSClient, and try to increase the volume while in iGO. The problem is that the volume is very low compare with when the headset is not plugged.

EDIT: Otherwise you can use a 3 in 1 Y Cable For HTC ExtUSB (use ebay, search the board, we already talked about it)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] vphk:
Thank you, it works for me !
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
DONATORS

=========

Thanks to Ginette G. for the donation. I'm working on fixing small bugs thanks to you!

About power consumption:

I've found that the power sonsumption on my Diamond is 115mA for the FM Radio, that's a lot!.

For example, a navigation program with CPU most of the time at 80-100% plus GPS active can take 400-500mA. Adding 115mA is a 20-30% more consumption and the battery could last easily one hour less.

But there is no other solution than using external power while navigating!! The FM radio takes that power and it cannot be reduced.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] iseeka:
now that works for almost everybody.. i still need some help

i am at the point that test gets tmc data but in igo no

my system.ini:

[tmc]

saved_config_available="1"

saved_config_classname="NMEA_GPSTMC_ROYALTEK"

saved_config_portname="COM"

saved_config_port="9"

saved_last_tuning_mode="0"

saved_last_frequency="1023"

cbolumar is trying to help:

1 delete Hkey_local_machine\Drivers\HyperGPS so it makes it again

done

2 Get sure tmcdriver is on and without test and only tmc data

done

3 Do u use IGO 8.3.2 ?

8.3.2.83157

4 First start driver then IGO

done

5 you see in igo correct fm channel?

YES: RNE 3 (102.3 MHz) Sin señal TMC . Radio clásica: Musicas de españa.

6 resintonice up and down in order to check tmc again.

done

There is something strange that happens on my device with the driver:

I start the driver and doesnt start. stop. change to speaker, start. stop change to headphone, start. AND WORKS. i have to do that every time

also tried putting save config 0 (someone with similar issue fixed for him) but not for me

thanks

______________
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Oemie:
I never tried the cable to act as an antenna again. Just once did that with alpha 3 or so, and at that moment it didn't work. i had to use the headphone. And the original HTC charger that can deliver 2A was for sail at a store in the city where i live. Normally it costs 30 Euro, but at this time i think you cab get it for max 19 Euro's. Mine was 15 Euro's and i am very glad with it cause it charges my phone real fast!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Z3rO`:
I don't know if this is possible, just an idea:

Turn on the Radio and receive tmc messages.

Feed the com port with the data received.

Turn off the Radio and feed the com port with the last messages received.

After a pre set time (e.g. 30 or 60 seconds) turn on the Radio again and refresh the TMC messages.

Turn off radio and so on.

The advantage would be, that the radio isn't powered on the whole time. The disadvantage would be a delay in receiving of fresh data of at least 30 seconds or of whatever time is set to in between updates.

Since TMC data isnt changing every second, that could be a possible solution to defeat the battery drain.

I dont have this problem since

a) I have a car charger

b) My navigation system isn't supported yet ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Oemie:
Haha, LOL @ b)

I don't have this problem either because i don't have a car to drive in..:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] madmitch:
I am using Navigon 2110 max and iGo8.3.2 on it. I have tried to instal HyperGPS last one I found here and realize I can not, cozz it is for WM6, my Max is running on WM5. Is there any way around or whatever so I can use TMC with my combination Navigon 2110Max and iGo8 on it?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gargamelle:
where is the ground on the headset to increase the signal?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] darkblue68:
To BeemerPPC:

Navigon 7.4 don't use GNS protocol anymore. 7.3.4 was using it, but not the new navigon 7.4 (which is a PNA hack, the 7330 Navigon PNA has a new hardware)

Do you know if it's possible to something to get TMC on thsi new Navigon release? Thanks

THe new navigon uses this hardware :

SilverStar TMC-Empfänger

Thanks for your great work!!!

Darkblue
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Scorpie:
Hm. Does that work on normal Touch too?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MyRho:
...my touch cruise doesn't find any radio signal... although the headphones are plugged in.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 69Morph69:
Thanks,

I tried yesterday with a 3.5mm -> 2.5mm adapter and an old 2.5mm antenna, and now it works perfectly, the sound is going through the speaker now.

Apparently using real headphones was the issue.

Indeed the sound volume has gone down with like 40% now, so this should get a fix but still, I love it! :cool:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gargamelle:
Any idea for having a good reception?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] flywhc:
Maybe a manual switch is better:

have a small float topmost window on screen so user can turn on/off FM radio.

have a hardware hotkey so that user can turn on/off FM radio.

For the issue that full volume decreased to 40% or something, are you using Blackstone?

If yes, I will have a solution very soon.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
@flywhc

Yes, he's using a blackstone (see http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3923869&postcount=1000). I have a blackstone too. When the driver is loaded and the headset connected, the sound on the external speaker is lower.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dreaddan:
HI, Im having no luck with getting tmc signals with b5 on my topaz.

I do get $RTTHC,7 and $RTRDS strings but nothing else.

I can get Clasic Fm fine in the radio and have 2 or 3 bars witin the hypergps test window.

my settings are

com1

ccir

tmc data

speaker

tuned sounds

manual

royaltek

has any one goto any ideas?

edit: a soft reset seems to have sorted it :) not to get igo working

Thanks

Dan
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] twanj:
can't get switch to work

Hi Guys,

i've installed b5 and it works. However i also installes the switch and used the settings (changing the link etc) as described. When i click the navapp link igo starts up, but it doesn't detect tmc.

When i start hypergps manually it does detect tmc, however this only happens once. I have to soft reset in order to do it again.

Anyone had the same problem or a solution?

I just know that the solution is almost there, because so many of you have got it to work perfectly!

Thanks Beemer and everyone who has made this possible!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] vphk:
You have to run igo by clicking HyperGPS Switch.exe. This program will force run navapp.lnk
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] stokesie:
i had same issue but found if I edit the Nav and go igo8 ink in windows startmenu to use hyper gps switch instead of igo8.exe it works every time.

bear in mind in programs igo8 folder you need a ink file called NavApp pointing to igo8.exe in same folder

this is pointed out on first page of thread
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mario661:
Beta 5 tested

Short version: Wooooooooooooow - it works!

Long version:

My setup:

Diamond P3700 - based on HTC Topaz SYS/XIP - Dutch

Radio: 1.09.25.23

iGO: Build 8.3.2.64029: works perfectly with audio to the speaker. What can I add?

iGO: Build 8.3.2.91972: works, but audio is NOT routed to the speaker - only to the headset

NEWS NEWS NEWS NEWS

I bought a splitter on eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350211702529) and it works perfectly for me.

Note the following:

- Do not try it with your USB from a PC. This will activate the USB on the diamond and will decrease your radio reception to unusable levels

- SO: only plug in to a power socket (tried with the standard charger)

- Power-side of the splitter is a mini-USB (normal, not HTC kind) so you need a standard USB to mini-USB cable to charge via the splitter

- ONLY a headset is recognised by the splitter as a headset.

- THUS NOT a RC-E100 remote...!!!!!! (that's actually a GOOD thing!)

Like I wrote- the audio is always redirected to the headset on the 91972 build. BUT COMBINE this with the splitter and PRESTO!!! FM radio, power AND audio via speaker.

MMMMMMMMMM - I'm loving it! :-)

(hope some people will find this info useful)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
DONATORS

=========

Thanks to Carlos E. for his donation. Gracias Carlos, un abrazo!

flywhc is working hard in a new volume control system. Once finished I'll implement it on the driver.

Currently I've code to make the volume to be set at most on driver loading, but I'm also changing this to make it aware to the selected one in Navigation program entering and exiting.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
Could someone post or send me a screenshot of iGO S-Meter (the meter for RSSI or power reception level) ?

I've upgrade to several iGO versions and still cannot wonder where the S-Meter on iGO is, and some of you complaint about it is not working! :(

I've tested Beta 6 against Royaltek own hardware tester and pass all the test, including RSSI, but I would verify it against iGO if I could find iGO meter ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] GJAman:
Wasn't this the one?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
@Beemer

Hi,

You can find several screenshots in my post here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3879166&postcount=779
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] twanj:
Thanks! Seems to working now! Had to use hyperswitch self in stead of the navapp.

Problem solved!

Twanj
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] krt.ecek:
I have Touch Pro (raphael)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Imperium:
@BeemerTPC

Can you if you have got the time, support Navigon 7.4??!!

It would be friggin awesome!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] peron:
Thanks, I have the exact same splitter (bought it from the same seller too!).

I'm suffering from random bad radio reception, I will need to do more testing to see if by disconnecting the power source the signal improves.

Sometimes I can receive a station with tmc and get all the info, then it will stop updating and no matter what I do it never finds it anymore.

Also the volume is low, it is not only a problem of the blackstone device like somebody was suggesting.

But I like what I see so far!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Z3rO`:
Perhaps he should concentrate on support of official versions... :rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cbolumar:
Loki , which igo version are you using in yours screenshots ?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] AnnieBal:
iGo 8.3.2.91972 tested and works here, audio comes from speaker with nothing but standard HTC headset plugged in. This is on Touch Diamond 2 with Dutch ROM .
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
@cbolumar

I've made these screenshots on a glofiish x800 running iGO version 8.3.2.83157. Why?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zSpinner:
Confirmed working here. Using the switch thingy to start the driver and iGO8, the later showing me around some roadworks (closed highways) being done at the moment.

Thanks you guys for bringing us your work, you rock!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Oemie:
Now that is nice. Just got home and on the way i tried my HTC charger would act like an antenna...and guess what, it does act as an antenna. First tried it without charging, after that worked tried it with charging and both worked!! with perfect TMC reception...

I am very happy with this software.:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cbolumar:
Beemer , igo is waiting for a number between 0 and 30 in one variable named

tmc.signal_strength , this variable read the data you are sending from Royalteq.

The number igo is obtaining at the moment is 0

Regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mittaa:
Great :)

Is it this kind car charger you use? http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/dk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=173542

Mittaa