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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nitrate:
Is there any way yet to have TMC in Route 66 Mobile 8 for Windows Mobile? I used the configuration "lacasi" posted on page 71 of this thread, but it takes too long until R66M8WM realizes that there is a TMC signal.

On the other hand "lacasi" posted that we should choose "Options" (Settings) in R66M8WM menu and then "Extras" and enable TMCpro. But if i do so and click the OK Button, i get the message, that "Activation was not successful" and "this operation is not allowed" or similar.

So as of the time taking R66M8WM to realize the TMC signal, is it because of bad configuration?

I currently use this one, "lacasi" posted on page 71 of this thread:

ROUTE66 MOBILE 8 Version 8.0.7254

SETTINGS:

HyperGPS Version beta1

ComPort Com9

Data output TMC + GPS Data

Sound output speaker

Mute radio Mute

Load on boot Manual

> TMC driver active

then > Menu - > Test

then > start route66 mobile 8

(only once-

settings - extras - TMC source --RDS--

Activate TMC Pro -- Yes-- <--- does not work!!!

Network connect -- do not allow--

Access point -- default / ActiveSync

entering in file Device.ini (route of SD-card)

[GenericPPC]

Com Port Value=9

Baude rate Value=4800

RdsTmc Device Type=1

RdsTmc Com Port=0

RdsTmc Baud Rate=38400

HasShell=1

)

in route66

- you see the strength of tmc signal- visible in the map

Erm... by the way i use XPERIA X1.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jackleung:
Beta1? Why not use the latest beta 8? It works perfectly w/ my X1 rom.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nitrate:
Does beta 8 work with Route 66?

I now tried updating the RADIO to version 1.14.25.55.

Will be right back to report, if it get's better connection.

Edit:

I don't know why, but HyperGPS since yesterday (after several hours of testing) only knows / tests the frequency 108.0 MHz and 87,5 MHz. When i pushed "Auto" in HyperGPS Test mode, it would test all frequencies from 87,5 till 108.0 MHz. I don't know, why it is doing this suddenly. It worked with no problem yesterday and suddenly it stopped testing other frequencies. :-( Any ideas?

Edit 2:

Now it tests other frequencies again and get's in the "Receive" window of HyperGPS "RTTMC" messages. But HyperGPS shows on the top of the Test window right under the signal strength "RDS" only. I remember that there was "TMC" shown once, too.

This is really strange.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lalamaus:
The signal strength can vary according to location or weather conditions vary greatly.

Since the RDS information is a very narrow band carriers can use it the morning you better reception than did the evening.

Likewise, strong thunderstorms near your home or deteriorate significantly improve (sharp layers in the stratosphere)

The autotune function displays only the frequencies at which he can receive proper)

I hope u understand this google translation ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lalamaus:
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B001GDAU00/ref=ox_ya_oh_product

This works Perfct with headset and charger at the same time,

dont try this 2in1 adapters. =)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nitrate:
Well, i have created my own TMC antenna and i use the headphone output of my X1 and sometimes Route 66 Mobile 8 also get's the signal, but only sometimes. It doesn't matter if it's the original headphones or my self-created TMC antenna.

I don't get this...

Is there noone here who got HyperGPS working with Route 66 Mobile 8 for WM?

I'd like to see the configuration of other R66 users here, please.

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lacasi:
Settings for Route 66 with beta 8

@nitrate

Well, i have created my own TMC antenna and i use the headphone output of my X1 and sometimes Route 66 Mobile 8 also get's the signal, but only sometimes. It doesn't matter if it's the original headphones or my self-created TMC antenna.

I don't get this...

Is there noone here who got HyperGPS working with Route 66 Mobile 8 for WM?

I'd like to see the configuration of other R66 users here, please.

Thanks.

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Here my configurations with Route 66 M8 WM 8.0.7254(21113)

HTC Touch HD

WM 6.1

Settings in HGPSClient:

COM9

TMC + GPS Data

Speaker

Tuned sound

not logged

Royaltek

Settings in Device.ini (root SD-Card)

[Initialization]

Device = GenericPPC

.....

[GenericPPC]

Com Port Value=9

Baud rate Value=4800

RdsTmc Device Type=1

RdsTmc Com Port=0

RdsTmc Baud Rate=38400

HasShell=1

Settings in Route 66

TMC Source RDS

Activate TMC Pro Yes

Network connect Ask always

Access point Default/ Activve sync

Start

HyperGPS

Route 66 Navigate 8

If you can't see a TMC station in Route 66 screen (map ) after 1 - 10 sec -stop the programs and

try

1.start the programs once more

or 2. reset your device (HD Soft Reset)

or 3. try in HGPSClient with Protoco GNS and in Device.ini with RdsTmc Device Type=2

you receive after starting the programs in Route66 in Extrs - Traffic information - traffic information set : can' open device....

Now stop the programs and set Protocol to GNS and RdsTmc Device Type=1 in Device.ini and start the programs

I hope this is successful to see TMC Datas

lacasi
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kutzi:
Problem with GNS Protocol after Soft-Reset

I use Navigon 7.3 with Beta8 on a HTC Touch Cruise (Polaris).

After each Soft Reset I have to load HyperGPS with Royaltec Protocol first before i can switch to GNS Protocol.

If I don't do that, Navigon can't find a TMC station.

Can anybody reproduce this bug ( ... or feature :-) )
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nitrate:
Well, at this time, Route 66 shows the frequencies of several programs at the top of the map. But there is not shown the name of the sender - for example: there only stands (105.6). If i click this bar, i get into the TMC menu. At the top it says "TMC - 105.6" and nothing more.

Maybe it's because i use my own TMC antenna, which has a connector with only 3 poles? The headphones of the X1 have 4 poles afaik. Using Google i found out a TMC antenna should have 4 poles. I will get one the next 2 days. Will report if i have success or not then.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] astucemobile:
Hello,

I just run version 8 with my HTC Cruise

I went on the GNS protocol.

He recognizes when frequencies and indicates that captures a signal TMC.

My only problem is that my HTC Cruise no have GPS signal if i use GNS

I do not understand, my GPS signal is on port 4 and my GNS TMC signal is on port 9 ... ?

I really trourne in circles and I do not move ...

If y use Royaltek, on port 9 it's OK for GPS signal but i have no TMC signal until my device found the TMC !

Thank you for your help if you can.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Polluxus:
Ok B8 and B7 work pretty good but I still run in some usability problems.

1.) The auto tune thing. I have a preferred favorite tmc frequency (102.1) hard coded in the sys.txt but auto tuning is also enabled. When I start Igo the auto tuner always starts scanning and locks on to a station around 95.

2.) I use this carkit (tmc reception is pretty good btw):

http://shop.brando.com/car-handsfree-kit-htc-touch-diamond-htc-diamond-100-_p02698c0902d039.html

Normally my phone/Igo, when connected to this carkit, mutes the phonespeaker and outputs the audio through the carkit speaker. The way it should be and how I like it.

When I fire up Igo with the switch utility and thus the tmc driver the audio is only routed through the phone speaker. Settings in HGPS client are "sound output: headset" and "mute radio: mute".

When I select

speaker

in the HGPS sound output selection box the audio is send to my carkit but it also comes out of my phone speaker.

Does anybody know if I can direct the sound to my carkit only?

Specs:

HTC Touch Diamond

HGPS B8

Royaltek, TMC data

iGO 8 R3 - v8.3.2.96054
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] patience88:
Hey, I'm using a brodit active carholder. (I have a Touch Pro)

Am I correct that the only solution to use TMC is an external TMC receiver that connects by bluetooth with my phone?

Sorry if this looks like a stupid question.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] saigon66:
http://shop.brando.com/car-handsfree-kit-htc-touch-hd-_p03039c0858d060.html

I use this handfree set for mine HTC HD, but when i use it it can't receipt TCM signal. Dont no why ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nitrate:
OK, on my XPERIA X1 i have the following configuration:

XPERIA X1 Settings / Firmware

Firmware: R3AA007

Radio version: 1.14.25.55

GPS COM port in XPERIA: COM4

GPS COM port Baud rate in XPERIA: 4800

HyperGPS Beta 8

COM Port: COM9:

FM Band: CCIR 87.5-108 MHz

Data output: TMC + GPS Data

Sound output: Speaker

Mute radio: Tuned sound

Log mode: Not Logged

Protocol: Royaltek

Route 66 Mobile 8 (Windows Mobile) v8.0.7254 (Build 21113) Device.ini

[Initialization]

Device = GenericPPC

[GenericPPC]

Com Port Value=9

Baud rate Value=4800

RdsTmc Device Type=1

RdsTmc Com Port=0

RdsTmc Baud Rate=38400

HasShell=1

Route 66 Mobile 8 (Windows Mobile) v8.0.7254 (Build 21113) Settings (Extras)

TMC Data source: RDS

Activate TMC Pro: No (can be changed to Yes, but as soon as I click the green button for "OK", i get an error saying that "this service is not activated and i shall visit the Route 66 Store" and "this operation is not allowed")

Network Connection: Never

Access Point: Default / ActiveSync

Now the situation is the following (with the original Sony Ericsson headphones connected, that came with my XPERIA X1):

When testing HyperGPS with the settings above, i get on several frequencies "RTTMC" messages. HyperGPS also displays "RDS" right under the signal strength bar in Test mode. But also it displays "TMC" instead of "RDS" under the signal strength bar on several frequencies.

Now with HyperGPS and the above settings enabled i run Route 66 Mobile 8. As soon as he displays the map (zooming to earth as soon as i start the program) he shows a bar on top, switching several frequencies. The bar shows a signal strength icon and the frequencies next to it. But the frequencies are set into brackets (i don't know if this is the way it has to be).

If i click that bar, i get to a menu that says "TMC" at the top and the frequencies right next to it. The way it is displayed is this: TMC - (101.0). Right below this "TMC - (101.0)" it says "No Data".

Now i don't know what the matter is because some people say it's working with the XPERIA X1. I also had a TMC signal once, but with older:

X1 Firmware (R2AA006)

Radio version (Original from R2AA006 - older than 1.14.25.55)

Route 66 version (Original as delivered but older than 8.0.7254 - no update)

HyperGPS (Beta 1)

I don't know if the behavior that i mentioned above is normal in Route 66 Mobile 8 (the bar at the top of the Route 66 map and the way the TMC menu is displayed).

I hope i can get any more help on this. I really can't get the point of this.

Thanks for any suggestion and / or help.

Sincerely, nitrate.

P.S.: I also tried your tips lacasi, but it looks like it doesn't really help. How can you enable TMC Pro? I can't activate it. :-(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] saigon66:
http://shop.brando.com/car-handsfree-kit-htc-touch-hd-_p03039c0858d060.html

When i plug my HTC HD in the car kit and i get the warning: The device doesn't support the USB headset. Please remove it . What that mean ? And how can i fix it becoz when i plug it in the handset TMC wouldn't work. Thnz ....!!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nitrate:
Ok, i finally think that i am not able to receive any TMC Data with my XPERIA X1 and my Route 66 Mobile 8 and HyperGPS.

I tried getting a signal by letting HyperGPS and Route 66 Mobile 8 enabled the whole night (for about 8 hours), but nothing... nothing happened. It is still the same way i mentioned above.

Am i doing something wrong? HyperGPS says "RDS" and "TMC" on several frequencies and Route 66 Mobile 8 is switching the frequencies in the bar on top of the map - but no data incoming anyway.

What the hell is wrong here?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] GuiPoM:
For the people who are using HyperGPS with Navigon, and an Xperia, if phone matters: which verison of Navigon do you use ? I use the 7.4.2 b802 version from digital eliteboard, and I can't get the traffic tab enabled. So i guess that Navigon does not detect any TMC device on port COM 9.

My config is :

HGPS Client

COM9

CCIR 88.7-108

TMC+GPS (tried TMC only)

Speaker

Mute (tried not muted)

Not logged

GNS (tried Royaltek)

Navigon (this is XML, but i just copy the values)

TMC node

RadioStationScan0

Autorecalculation 1

PreferPay 0

TMCPort 9

TMCBaudrate 38400

DVRPrefix COM

GPS node

Type 0 (tried 2)

GPSPort 4

TMCPort empty

Baudrate 4800

DVRPrefix COM

BluetoothDevice Node empty

I can't make HyperGPS work, so thanks if anyone can help me !
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nitrate:
OK after posting my last message like an hour ago i got TMC on both - Route 66 Mobile 8 and Navigon Mobile Navigator 7 with the following settings / configuration:

XPERIA X1 Settings / Firmware

Firmware: R3AA007

Radio version: 1.14.25.55

GPS COM port in XPERIA: COM4

GPS COM port Baud rate in XPERIA: 4800

HyperGPS Beta 8

COM Port: COM9:

FM Band: CCIR 87.5-108 MHz

Data output: TMC

Sound output: Speaker

Mute radio: Mute

Log mode: Not Logged

Protocol: GNS

Route 66 Mobile 8 (Windows Mobile) v8.0.7254 (Build 21113) Device.ini

[Initialization]

Device = GenericPPC

[GenericPPC]

Com Port Value=4

Baud rate Value=4800

RdsTmc Device Type=2

RdsTmc Com Port=9

RdsTmc Baud Rate=38400

HasShell=0

Route 66 Mobile 8 (Windows Mobile) v8.0.7254 (Build 21113) Settings (Extras)

TMC Data source: RDS

Activate TMC Pro: No

Network Connection: Never

Access Point: Default / ActiveSync

Navigon Mobile Navigator 7.3.4

GPS Settings:

GPS Type (GPS Receiver with external TMC Receiver)

GPS Port (COM4: ActiveDevice)

GPS Baudrate (4800)

TMC Port (COM9: HyperGPS)

TMC Baudrate (38400)

TMC Settings:

Radio Station Scan (Automatic)

Recalculation (Automatic)

UserSettings.default:

...

<RadioStationScan>1</RadioStationScan>

<Recalculation>1</Recalculation>

...

I realized that i have really bad signal on Route 66 Mobile 8 but i think Route 66 Mobile 8 anyway is more worse than Navigon to receive TMC.

If you have problems selecting the right port for GPS and TMC within Navigon Mobile Navigator 7 then try selecting another GPS Type first and then select "GPS Receiver with external TMC Receiver" again. The ports should be listed in correct order then.

Anyway with my configuration above i got TMC in both - Route 66 Mobile 8 and Navigon Mobile Navigator 7. With Navigon Mobile Navigator 7 i had much better results.

Let's see how long the receiving lasts as soon as i disable and reenable the software.

I will also try to update my XPERIA X1 RADIO Firmware to 1.16.25.48 (from korean ROM).

Edit:

It is also working with the latest 1.16.25.48 RADIO Firmware from the korean ROM (without rilphone.dll - because of the error's mentioned in this thread. See post number 138 on page 14).

Greetings from Germany.

Sincerely, nitrate.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ecky:
If someone have problems with HyperGPS - I have made bad experiences with power chargers (for Car and 220V)

I have tested 3 chargers (no 2in1-Adapters) and only with the original Sony-Ericsson power supply (I have an XPERIA) receiving of radio stations (tested with PowerRadio) is possible. The headphone is of course used anytime. But seems that any chargers crash the signal.

Btw. in my car Zafira A I have no chance to get a signal because of the special windscreen.

Without any power adapter and out of my car HyperGPS works fine, the other problems with radio reception are irrespective of HyperGPS.

Greetings ecky
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nitrate:
Thank you for the information ecky.

I will test that later with the car charger for my X1.

If this is true then it's no wonder why i don't get any signal. I wouldn't be surprised if this belongs to all kind of chargers - not only car chargers.

Edit for ecky:

I didn't have any problem with my car charger (from company Brodit) to find a TMC signal and received 1 TMC station.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
same here! thanks for mentioning it! i was wondering why tmc did not work after soft reset. but switching to royaltek first and than back to gns solves the problem! nice!

k
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] GuiPoM:
Could you provide the userconfig.xml located in settings directory from your navigon software ? I would be helpful to find what does not work on other versions ;)

My issue is probably linked to the use of a PNA based version of Navigon, and not a PDA one, people reporting here do not precise the full version of Navigon they use

Thanks ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jerommeke:
No TMC with iGO - Mortscript - Bluetooth

Hi all,

There's a little problem in my configuration. I've got a HTC Raphael with Dutch M-ROM and iGO 8.3.2.80621 installed. Lately I've decided to use an external GPS-receiver (Holux GPSlim 236), because the built-in gps chip is not that good.

For the external receiver I need a BT connection and in order to startup iGO with HyperGPS and an automatic BT start I tried a script with Mortscript:

Run "\Opslagkaart\iGO8\BTOnOff.exe"

RunWait "\Opslagkaart\iGO8\GPS_Switch.exe"

Run "\Opslagkaart\iGO8\BTOnOff.exe"

Opslagkaart = Storage Card

This works, but I get no TMC-signal. Although the TMC-driver is activated in HyperGPS. In sys.txt I've added following:

[tmc]

saved_config_available="1"

saved_config_classname="NMEA_GPSTMC_ROYALTEK"

saved_config_portname="COM"

saved_config_port="9"

saved_last_tuning_mode="1"

saved_last_frequency="1048"

auto_tuning="1

But in iGO TMC won't search for a right frequency. The TMC-receiver is recognised though.

When I try this with opening GPS_Switch.exe directly from the iGO-directory, then TMC-reception works fine.

Is there something I can add in the script to make this work? Do you guys encounter the same problem or something like this?

Another problem I've just noticed, my TMC-signal disappears when I connect my Raphael to power. I have an adapter connected to split the power source and the headphone. In my memory this worked before, not anymore though.

This is the adapter I use:

Is there a way to bypass this? Is the power source to powerfull?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pelroig:
@Beemer, some alpha 3 findings on Sony X1

HGPSClient - in the test mode is receiving TMC data

iGO - driver connection seems stable. But only once succesfully received RDS/TMC signal.

Also some volume issue. When using WM volume control, the radio output volume drops to zero. Need to restart iGO and then volume is back again.

Closure of FM radio still only takes like 8 seconds, with headset inserted :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] camro:
forget the ROM, i've played today a "little bit" with diff. ROM's

orig and self cooked from wm6.0, wm6.1, wm6.5 -> all the same !

and also i tried 3 diff. RADIO ROM -> all the same - no difference for me.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mario661:
Test results Alpha 3

Alpha 3 test on Diamond P3700, Dutch 1.93 ROM (HTC), 1.09.25.23 Radio, iGO8 8.3.2.64029, tuned to 91.3

I have put the output on Speaker, Tuned audio. TMC works*

After that, I have put the output on Speaker, Muted. Audio DOES get routed to the speaker, but I am unable to receive TMC data.

I tested it within the driver itself and it seems to work, but I'm not 100% sure.

Changed to COM port to force iGO to look again for the TMC. Will find it and use TMC, but audio is than routed to the headset.

From what I can tell: TMC data will not work within iGO when audio is routed to speaker AND radio is muted.

Tried various USB cables, including the original, as antenna. This unfortunately doesn't seem to work for me.

I still find the project very interesting. Keep up the great work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] camro:
@BEEMERTPPC

my tip: (i'm be sure)

the connect to TMC driver in iGO8 is different if TMC is not set -> then make the "search for TMC port" and send some special init cmd's to ser ports.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if TMC is set in IGO settings (system.ini") it handle the init of TMC driver different (maybe it makes no init or whatever ...)

ex: the different is: if the TMC settings in igo, then the sound will be route to speaker(set in driver)

but if there are no TMC settings -> only first scanning RADIO channel i heard in speaker AND all other sound of IGO are on the headset.

maybe this hint helps to find where the problem is

therefore it would be good to see exact wht input/output . Therefore a serial porttracer would be fine :) anyway ...

cu camel

EDIT:

ALSO i found out, that only the fake TMC is then coming to iGO, if TMC settings are set in igo8. and after that nothing helps - only reinstall helps to get once again data(but i know that RADIO signal is here, because on scanning it jump to the places where channels are incoming...)

EDIT2:

have now a solution that i don't have to reinstall all the stuff.

if i start iGO with a TMC clean system.ini and only set the ROYAL + port 9 and then autosearch, then it works again and i don't have to reboot and all the stuff - so the init process is very important from igo and what it did there.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] auxaux:
Great testing!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] camro:
this doesn't work for me (HTC HD)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] shurik_1:
first of all thanks for a great tool. with a few tricks described here like starting iGO while HyperGPS in test mode I managed to get TMC working on my Touch HD. Even Autotune seems working just like with my external Royaltek unit.

I could not get sound routed to speaker however. I even cut the cable from headphones as suggested but it did not work. Do I have to buy a headset to get the sound routed?

I have also tried the audioswitch suggested earlier in thes thread. But it only made me wonder if posters have tried their own medicine.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] camro:
of course ... but you don't have a HTC HD ;-)

and a lot of guys knowing about that they can trust me - but it is ok - i only want to help. in real -> i don't need TMC. i'm using IGO 1 time per month and TMC is for me not worthful - but if something is not working , then i'm hungry to help ;-)

There would be only one(your version) on the market. this would be only for testing ....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] remko:
This is exactly the same behaviour as I am experiencing on my HD. My steps and results:

- SR

- delete reg key

- delete GFMAPI.DLL

- copy GFMAPI.DLL

- system.ini of iGo without TMC and set to Read Only

- Start driver and iGo

- Manually set Port 9 and Royaltek

- Manually set frequency and iGo recieves TMC perfectly fast and stable!!!!!

- Restart iGo and set port and protocol again, still works perfect!!!!

- Stop iGo and driver

- Restart everything and iGo doesn't recieve TMC anymore...:(

I have been able to reproduce this scenario multiple times, so I now at least have a way of getting reliable TMC in my iGo so I am very happy!!

Hope my comments help, keep up the good work..!!

Grtz Remko
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] camro:
i played on HTC HD and searched in the hole worls ~8different tools for routing/switch audio to speaker - nothing is working)

if you find a trick - let me know.)

also i made a zip with a lot of different tools for routing/switching audio to speaker, headset ..) see: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3752877&postcount=503