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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
@kikiller

Hi,

My config:

- in sys.txt: saved_config_available="0" otherwise iGO will not detect TMCdata

- plug in the headset and make sure you're somewhere with good radio reception

- start HyperGPS and load the driver with this config:

Com9

CCIR 87.5-108MHz

TMC Data

Speaker

Tuned sound

Manual

- close HyperGPS

- start iGO

- search for the TMC hardware with protocol= Royaltek and port= Com9. If it doesn't work the first time, try again. Move your headset if it still doesn't work and try again

- when the TMC hardware is found, tune one of the frequencies I gave you

EDIT: Don't try to power off your HTC, like conytaac said, with the driver loaded because it won't power on after!!! Beemer did not implement power management in his driver yet! After you close iGO you will have to unload the driver before power off your phone.

You don't need the GPS reception before scanning, but you can go outside to have a better radio reception. When scanning my screen doesn't change
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pego2007:
HyperGPS & MN7

@ all

My version of MN7 = 7.3.2 official from Navigate(germany)

i`ve tested MN7 with TMC today,there comes no signal to the program.

I thinks MN7 detects TMC,but it`s not the right protocol for TMC_output.

For now it`s not working,until beemer change the protocolfiles from NMEA in Navigon_formats .

greetz from germany

pego2007
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] conytaac:
when i said power off, i mean, hit the power button of the phone, not switch off the phone, igo after 4-5 sec start 2 blink, after that hit the power button again (igo will not blinkin' anymore) and after 20-25 sec u will have tmc signal, i do this from 1 week and work well,

i never make any change in my sys.txt or system.ini, so... u better try first before make any ...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
@conytaac

Hi,

When I edit my previous post I didn't want to make you mad. When I said "power off" I meant the same as you and not switching off the phone completely.

You have a diamond, kikiller and I have a touch HD which is not the same, right?! So when I say not to switch off the phone with the driver loaded that's because I've already try it and I had to soft reset my phone to power it on.

Let's say I wasn't clear enough. I don't want to have a fight with you. All I wanted to say was that the driver does not have power management (as Beemer confirmed --> read the thread if you want to be sure), so you have to unload it before switch off your phone, otherwise you will have to soft reset to switch it on (at least on a touch HD)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thochisa:
Hello

TMC on my Igo 8.3 (on touch cruise) work with hypergps and modification syst but after scan auto it didn't find any tmc station

near Marseille .

forget something ?

(sorry for my english)

thank you
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
@thochisa

Hi,

Don't use auto tune in iGO. Actually it doesn't work well with the driver. Tune iGO manually on the frequency where you have TMC data

En français: la fonction "utiliser tuner auto" ne marche pas bien actuellement avec le driver. Choisis manuellement la bonne fréquence dans iGO.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kevin8622:
I'm still getting this issue... I had to do a soft reset after each time iGO was closed !

1) I start HyperGPS, set up com port and test it : It works.

2) I start iGO, set up TMC with auto detect (device found). I go back to the map and TMC data is show

3) I close iGO

4) I open iGO again, go to the map, no tmc data. If I try to reset TMC parameters, iGO is unable to found a TMC device.

5) I go back to HyperGPS, run the test... nothing happens, no data, radio frequence cannot be changed (no frequence is displayed !). Close & start again does not change anything.

After a soft reset, both work fine again.

edit : on beta2
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Oemie:
put the antenna in and try for tmc outside your house. TMC reception is can be very bad in some places and sometimes has nothing to do with the software!

I have my igo on autosearch all the time and it works great when i have strong signal!

In my house i receive maybe 1 or 2tmc station, outside my house and in my car i have 5 or 6!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kevin8622:
Sur Bordeaux c'est NRJ qui diffuse la TMC chez moi (Région Bordelaise et je suis en campagne !).

Sinon il y a aussi Nostalgie qui diffuse la TMC il paraît.

Dans l'outil de test tu dois trouver une fréquence qui diffuse "$RTTMC,8". le 8 est très important c'est lui qui dit si il y a un signal TMC. Les 2 autres (0 et 7) ne sont pas utiles, seule la fréquence avec le 8 fonctionnera.

In english : not so important, I give him some french radio frequence with TMC and the test tool must display a "$RTTMC,8" string.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Leon_Citron:
There are 2 different providers for TMC in France:

First is V-Traffic, you can reach it on "France Inter"

Second is Viamichelin, you can reach it on "Latina", "NRJ", "Nostalgie".

I don't believe that IGO has the 2 licences inside, maybe.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mittaa:
Any solution to "car charger problem" ...

Same experience here ... works fine with HD and IGO if I follow same procedure.

The only thing I don't understand is: why do I loose connection using ordinary car charger and not when I use 220v power supply? :confused:

Not being able to charge while driving is a major showstopper because IGO drains HD in about 1½ hour ...

I have search this thread but didn't find any explaination or solution.

Anyone found a solution related to this car charger problem (or did I miss a post)?

Mittaa
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thochisa:
Thank you all for uor response

In hypergps test i have no number "8" only "7"

when I test on NRJ france inter nostalgie

may be too far from station ? I leave 30km from marseille

i retry another day on highway
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
I don't have this problem when charging in my car. This is clearly a big problem: iGO and/or hyperGPS drain the battery quite fast! Try another charger maybe that can help...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mittaa:
THANKS L_o_k_i ... you just gave me hope back :D

And thanks a lot beemer ... this is really a fine piece of digital craftmanship :)

Mittaa
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nickox:
hello i use version alpha 3 and igo 8.3.2.71348 and igo search tmc but dont work

what is the solution ? i live i,n paris
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
@nickox

Hi,

All you need is in this thread! All you have to do is read, starting from page 64 for example. Of course the first post is very helpfull to know how to use the driver. I don't know what to do to help you more...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mittaa:
Car charger makes a difference!

OK here some good news :)

Found another (better) car charger and it made a huge difference!

Testet it over and over ... same result. The cheap one generates some kind of disturbence and the better one don't.

Next step is signal strenght inside the car ...

At the moment I use a wire from a headset (plugs cut off).

When I let the end of my "antenna" hang out the windows, signal improve a lot. When inside signal is more weak.

Would be nice to hook it up to the real car antenna.

Must give a much better signal?

Anybody tried this?

Thanks

Mittaa
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
@Beemer

Hi,

In one of my latest post I told you that the radio signal strength doesn't show up in iGO. I'm not the only one in that case. I just saw on Modaco.com that the OmniaTMC's driver gives the signal strength.

Will it be possible in your next beta to include this feature because it's very useful? Maybe Beamrider can help on this...

EDIT: Is it possible to make the com port of your driver accessible with a second program? I would like to be able to log the data when I use iGO.

Cheers
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] XDANoob:
Hi,

Beta 2 works on my Polaris, but i don´t have a TMC Signal in iGo :(. On HyperGPS Client under Recent is $RTTMC,7,0000,7000,0000,0000*40 always. What´s wrong?

XDANoob
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] matthijsvankeulen:
@XDANoob

Try to run hypergps outside. Mostly reception is better outside. I had to put my headsetcable near the window to recieve tmc signal. You can find tmc frequencies of your country on the internet. Google is your friend :-)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sandeman1976:
Have tried B3 and B2 with Igo8, can't get it to work. I've changed the sys.txt, the .ini file, checked the casing of the dll's in /windows, soft resetted, tried inside and outside, during rushhour etc...

Despite ok tests (tmc,8 lines) Igo8 (on the same frequency, no auto scanning) keeps telling me there's no tmc signal...

Any tips? Or should I just wait for B4 and have another try then? :D

Ps, device is Touch Diamond, stock dutch ROM.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] astrell:
Hi all,

I still am using beta 2 with my Touch HD and all I have to do is to search for a TMC receiver in IGO8 every time I start the nav s/w. HyperGps has to be opened in the backround but works flawlessly every time. After soft reset works great too, without the need of any intervention whatsoever. Almost nothing to complain about.

Excellent work beemer!!

rgds

astrell
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] halloj:
I'm using Beta one in my Diamond, works perfect.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sandeman1976:
I was afraid someone would say that... Ok, I'll try B1 :D

To be continued
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] well0549:
First of all BEEMER IS (almost) a god !

OK, I have beta 3 installed, but i keep getting the follwing problem.

( I have read this entire thread... (so i already tried a lot))

1. Install HyperGPS.

2. Load Driver

3. Test ( I can see data coming in. I read the entire posts here and i can confirm that i see TMC 8 coming in)

4. Changed the settings of IGO, IGO recognizes the Driver. (IGO 8.3.xyz)

5. IGO keeps saying no TMC signal......(and then scans the next frequency)

6. IGO finds the same frequencies as the testapp. But the testapp does display TMC,8 type entries

7. Igo scans for next freq (and finds them) but cant see the TMC signal....

What am i doing wrong here

Using TD2 wwe Stock in holland !
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] XDANoob:
Hmm, no TMC Signal :(!

Always $RTTMC,7,0000,7000,0000,0000*40 or $RTRDS,XXX,X,X,X,X........
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pego2007:
HyperGPS no TMC-Channel

@XDANoob

Try the radio from the first post

(http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=497977)

and control if it works.

With the radio started,you have information about chanel,frequencies,latencies and of course tmc .

After 1 minute you start the radio ,you can see the information.

If not,make a softreset. Then it will work fine

If you have no information about tmc you have a problem with your device.

greetz

pego2007
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] well0549:
Found something else today...

When I change the saved_config_available="1"

to saved_config_available="0"

IGO will detect the TMC driver and will find TMC data. But then I will have to change the setting every time I startup and do a discover of the TMC driver... This is not real handy....

If it picks up the TMC signal it is also dispaying all the other stuff like the name of the

station

Maybe the scan is too quick... Sometimes i have to wait a little while before a tmc 8 comes by in the TestApp as well, so maybe IGO is not getting the TMC signal fast enough and IGO decides (or the driver) to switch to another frequency ? Just a guess.... (Cause IGO is scanning very fast over the frequencies)

So that's my experience this far...

btw, did i mention that BEEMER IS (almost) a god
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sandeman1976:
w00t! Got it to work with Beta 1 !! :D

I had to turn off the screen for a couple of seconds as stated earlier in this thread, but after that I got beautiful TMC data :D

I wonder what has changed after B1 that's causing this...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] halloj:
Prepare according to first page.

Go into IGO and select TMC, set it to a fixed known TMC station and than you've to wait a half minute or so for it to show data on the screen and the messages to start to pour in.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] XDANoob:
ok, i have test it and xfmradio say TMC ;) (96.8,100.8 and 107.2)

IGo say no TMC Signal on 96.8,100.8 and 107.2 :(.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sandeman1976:
Yes, I did and it worked (check the post right above yours ;)).

I changed the two dll's to lowercase and left the other settings in Igo the way they were (with modified sys.txt and .ini files). :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] monzablue16v:
read most of this thread and tweaked uninstalled, reinstalled, hard resets, soft resets. Just can't seem to get Igo pick it up on my touch HD, or get a decent stream in the test program, most odd. I will wait around for someone else to get it going then copy them!! :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Captain_Throwback:
All you should have to do is add this line to your SYS.TXT:

[tmc]
saved_config_available=0

Then you just have to re-detect the TMC hardware in iGO everytime, but that's it. Also, using auto-tuning in iGO is not recommended, as it scans too quickly.

I'm using the HGPSSwitch beemer posted in the thread, and I don't have to even go into the HyperGPS app before opening iGO.

Actually, regarding the above statement, I've discovered that the HGPSSwitch app doesn't seem to work correctly (i.e. iGO doesn't detect TMC hardware) unless I manually go into HyperGPS, activate the driver, tune to a station to verify TMC data, and then de-activate the driver before using it.

Also, @beemer - If I used HGPSSwitch.exe to open iGO, and I minimize iGO after starting, can I use the same shortcut I created (to HGPSSwitch.exe) to open iGO again, or will it de-activate the HyperGPS driver? I usually minimize iGO to select music to play, and then re-open it using the shortcut, but I didn't want to risk losing the TMC driver, so I've been navigating directly to iGO.exe in Explorer just to be safe.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] salemh:
I had exactly the same problem, until I changed the setting in iGo to use "Backlight always"

under setting/device.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mittaa:
HGPSSwitch.exe?

Hi

HGPSSwitch.exe ???

Did I miss something here?

What is HGPSSwitch.exe?

Where can I get it?

Mittaa
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mamamam:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3817581&postcount=530
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kikiller:
IT WORKS !!!!!!!!!

Finally, I succeded in having TMC under iGO.

I've reinstalled iGO and HyperGPS b3 and follow steps L_o_k_i (and some others) gave me.

Beemer, you're a genius !

To be helpfull, here's my experience :

The only thing you need to set is

[tmc]

saved_config_available=0 in sys.txt

No parameter is needed in system.ini

In my previous tests, i've put tmc parameters in it, and iGO seems to see my tmc hardware, searching for tmc signal, but it has never worked...

You need to really detect tmc hardware to obtain tmc signal.

To make it work :

- plug aerial

- start driver (then close HyperGPS)

- start iGO

- go to settings > TMC

- set protocol and com port then search for tmc hardware..........

- one time...

- on more...

- try until it works (usually it has worked at the third or fourth time for me)

It seems that you need a

very very good

reception !

Once TMC hardware is ok :

- set radio manually (90.4 around Paris works great)

Then the miracle comes true ! TMC alerts appears in iGO :)

By the way, I still have some issues :(

The only way i've found to have TMC hardware detection a second time (after closing iGo and stoping driver) is to soft reset Touch HD.

I've tried several times to detect hardware without reseting but never succeded.

Last point : Can someone explain me the link between good reception and hardware detection ??? :confused:

I can understand the link between good reception and TMC signal, but why for hardware ????

Thanks all ! :cool:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
@kikiller

Hi,

I'm glad to know you succeeded!!! But I don't understand why you have to soft reset to make it work after closing HyperGPS and iGO! Maybe it's important to have quotes around 0 in sys.txt like this:

[tmc]

saved_config_available="0"

I don't know why we need a good reception to be able to detect the TMC hardware. I already point this out to Beemer. He will increase the fake data when no RDS is present. Let's hope this will be enough. Maybe sending real and constant $RTRDS with information about the tuned frequency (and not fake $RTTMC,7...) could be a better solution...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Captain_Throwback:
You only need the quotes around it if you're putting the value in the system.ini file. I don't have quotes for any numerical parameters in my SYS.TXT, and it works fine.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] well0549:
Only got hardware detected once.

And after i start HyperGPS my radio won't start anymore. I have to reset the device an dthen my radio will work until I start HyperGPS again....

Anyone with similar problems ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sandeman1976:
I've got it to work a couple of times now, but only after starting Igo8, selecting TMC, tuning to the right frequency and then... Turning the screen off, waiting a couple (10+) seconds, turn the screen back on and only then the data starts rolling in... (!)

I found that tip somewhere in this thread...

I'm completely clueless about what the reason for this is, but maybe it can help others and maybe it can help the programmer to build even better code :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] darkblue68:
BeemerPPC: any news about GNS Protocol?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thochisa:
Hi,

Finally I test TMC (NRJ marseille 106.4) on XFMradio and it find signal ?????

and on hypergps the same frequence 106.4 no signal only number 7 ???????

forget something ??

great work..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] grooves1:
XDANoob:

I have got exact the same problem with a polaris (german brand orbit II) and WM6.1

I can receive TMC messages with XFMRadio application

but with HGPSclient test software I get only

$RTTMC,7,0000,7000,0000,0000*40 messages

the antenna position is exactly the same

outdoor or softreset or reinstall doesn't help :-(

Regards,

grooves
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] iseeka:
Polaris seems to have problems with the driver.

Try changing port_/audio settings and restart the driver.. sometimes works again... just sometimes
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mittaa:
Got it :)

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kevin8622:
Good job, it's perfect !
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] PJzzz:
Radio has lots of static and noise with screen on.

It's the same with my HD, when listening to the stock radio app it has a lot of static and noise but when switching of with powerbutton it's totally clean and has much better reception.

So I conclude that initial tmc reception with the screen on must be lousy as well.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mittaa:
Wonder about same...

If IGO could detect HW also when signal is weak, a lot of problems would be solved. It would then be possible to load driver and execute IGO, and just begin driving. If HW is detected and IGO autotuning is enabled, Im sure that IGO will pick up signal after a while.

By the way ... I think weak signal inside car is a common problem related to many TMC enabled GPS devices, and maby not related to HGPS.

Mittaa
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] plopper:
briljant

weeeee, after months of reading finally i post something.

been using beta 2 in combination with iGo 8.0.0.44366 (totally no settings for tmc in the igo config) now for more then a week and works perfectly (touch pro with radio 1.14.25.05).

ok igo indeed scans a bit to fast, but no worry's it's gone pick up the signal when it passes the channel again.

but what is different (at least i didn't see anyone mention it), is that i use a "HTC Multifunction Audio Cable YC-A300".

http://www.pdashop.nl/product/57427/54046/3361/htc-multifunction-audio-cable-yc-a300.html

which isn't only a damn handy audio cable (it supplies 3 types of connectors for headphones, it also gives 1 extra mini usb port (charging).

and most importantly as that's the reason why i bought it, it functions as an antenna.

funny fact i notiched this week in a traffic jam is that the siemens network in the netherlands is indeed nearly real-time (Q-music).

the moment the traffic started to drive again it disappeared from the list and minutes later when the traffic stopped it was back.

plop(per)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Oemie:
You are saying that Igo doesn't have to find hardware @ 2nd start???

It just works? Because when that is the case i will revers to your version of Igo!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mittaa:
Headphone icon do not disappear ...

@BeemerPPC

I have noticed a strange thing that might be helpfull?

After unloading driver (and unplugging headphone) the headphone icon is gone from Windows topbar, but is still showing in S2U2 ...!

Its like something stil are active or "hangs" after driver is unloaded.

Any idea whats going on?

Mittaa
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thochisa:
@XDANoob

Hi

I change on my touch cruise the port in "6" in hypergps

and miracle tmc work and I ear music too.

but don't work in IGO it find no TMC signal
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] salemh:
Beamer,

Are things OK ... we did not hear from you for sometime now! No pressure but we like also to help if u like. I was also studying the OmniaTMC ... it gives good ideas as well. I am sure u know that and u r in touch with them for one unified version (HTC / Omnia)

Looking forward to hearing from u.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kikiller:
2nd day !

It works ! and it works perfectly !

I don't understand why i had to soft reset the first day I tried it (between two tries of iGo), but it's no longer true.

Today, iGo has detected my tmc hardware on first try (both time I use it) and without soft reseting between my test in the morning and the other this evening.

I have only one remark : speaker level is two tiny in a noisy car like mine ! :(

Sound comes from both speaker and earphone (with a perfect sound in earphones)

I Hope Beemer will fix it in future beta.

Enjoy !
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Captain_Throwback:
Signal Strength & TMC indicator

I finally understand what L_o_k_i is talking about with the signal strength not showing in iGO. I have attached a screenshot (signal strength indicator circled in green). Also, I noticed that the TMC indicator doesn't always show as lit up (even when TMC is present). I'm not sure if that is also related, since I have seen the TMC indicator light up at times (see screenshot, indicator circled in green on bottom right).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
@Captain_Throwback

Hi,

Your first pic is exactly what I was talking about when I mentioned the radio signal strength.

TMC indicator is shown when the radio first find a station with TMC data, then when data are received this indicator becomes an envelope (open or closed, depending on if you check or not the TMC data)

BTW, can you tell me what is the version of iGO you are using?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Captain_Throwback:
I am using the same iGO version as you :).

If you notice, I am receiving TMC data, but my TMC indicator is neither lit up, nor is it an envelope. I don't know if that's related to signal strength, but I'm sure it should be lit up if I'm receiving TMC data.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] vboyz103:
Does this TMC work with USA channel? Anyone found any channel with TMC in bay area california?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gongoscho:
hyperGPS - Navigon

Any News / Inovations to us hyperGPS with Navigon?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] matthijsvankeulen:
Yesterday I noticed that TMC reception stays stable for about half an hour. After that, there's no TMC signal.

When I turn off the screen, tmc signal comes back for maybe several minutes.

When I soft reset my device, tmc signal stays stable again for about half an hour.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jackleung:
I do. But you have to pay the one time subscription fee to Clear Channel.

I am living in San Jose and got TMC on 92.3, 94.9, 98.5, 101.3, 103.7 etc.