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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
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Thanks to Volker K. and Matthias B. I'm finishing a new development platform to improve development speed and I did it yesterday thanks to you ;)

Issue with iGO stuck at 100MHz and not receiving TMC.

All the logs you have sent to me start with a test. Please try this: Soft reset, load driver and WITHOUT entering in the test, run iGO. It should work at least for the first time after the soft reset.

I think that the problem is that the asyncrhonous power off takes more time that the one iGO waits between closing and openning again the port. It doesn't happen on my Diamond that now works flawlessly.

I'm trying to get a HD from a friend to make more testing, but even without it, and with the help of the logs posted here, I think I can modify the timing to ensure that the radio doesn't get stuck.

I plan to add also command line options to load/unload the driver from a script, this will help to those that only get iGO working just after loading the driver.

Unfortunately I have not ready the new development enviroment and I'll cannot do anything until tomorrow :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] remko:
Ok, here's the log which directly starts with iGo, saved_config_available set to "1".

- No TMC reception, but I was able to tune channels.

- Exit iGo and restart it again: No tuning possible and locked at 100 MHz

If you need me to test any other scenarios, please describe the scenario and I will gladly help you out...

Grtz Remko
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tthor:
Hi beemer, for my logs, I never start the test mode.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] erups:
I officially can't get it to work.

HTC p3650.

Custom rom (R3D_Rc1, it's an italian rom from cellularmagazine.it)

I tried every possible config.

I tried renaming dlls to lowercase.

The fact is that the HyperGps test screen finds TMC stations and data (i haven't tested the auto func, i tuned them manually), igo doesn't.

Even if i manually set the stations IGO always says "no tmc data".

Also i would point to a strange behaviour of HyperGps:

when i exit IGO after having tried to lock on a station, if i load again the test screen, not even HyperGps is able to find data.

It keeps putting out the automated class-7 keep-alive.

If i stop and reload the driver it starts to work again.

Anyway the frustration is that on hypergps the data is present, in igo it's not.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] p50kombi:
Tomtom

Anyone got this working with TomTom.

Saw it mentioned, but no real clue whether someone actually succeeded in making it work with TomTom.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] iseeka:
softreset -uninstall- check dll and reg are deleted - softreset - install DOESNT WORK
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] speedme:
I don't even see a TMC option in TomTom, so I'm wondering same thing....does it work in TomTom and if so, how ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] iseeka:
there is NO TMC in tomtom

some ppl managed to introduce TMC data as POIs i think
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] creda:
Working without any problems

I tested a lot with beta1 version on my HTC TOUCH HD, Dutch original ROM (1.14). WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS SO FAR. Always working.

The only thing i had to do is to startup the radio (when driver is off) and set the volume to maximum! In that case i can receive TMC signals always on different channels. When it is set too low, or mute, i can't receive any TMC channel. The HTC radio isn't a very good radio, so when i'm in a building, the reception is bad, but when i get out of the building, or get near a window, the tmc signal is back again.

I can start/stop/start/stop/start IGO as many times as i want, it always works (after IGO scans for the TMC hardware everytime again). I can start/stop/start/stop the driver as many times as i want, i never had any problem yet.

On my device the beta1 version is very stable, tested it for hours.

Thanks to the builders! Very impressive!!!

:):):):):):)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] camro:
for me - the most wanted bugfixing would be, that i don't have to configure in IGO8 the com port for TMC every time again.

it would fine, that igo8 can use the confiured COM port.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] johnpatcher:
Just save the appropriated data in the sys.txt or system.ini ...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] iseeka:
nice found

tried on my polaris hoping it resolves the problem.. but no

ty for sharing
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] as_x1:
hi beemer! it is possible the hyperGPS will be compatible with new r3aa ROM @x1 (with the new media panel)? thx A.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] speedme:
Hi creda, judging from your name I think you live in the same city as I do (breda) in Holland.

What ROM's (OS + radio) are you using ?

I'm on Macadam V1.2 and radio 1.09.25.23.

And I''m using iGO 8.3.2.80621

I can scan using the tool and set radio channel to 100.4 but in iGo it keeps on scanning and always gives the message "no TMC sign.".
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Captain_Throwback:
The problem is, TMC only works in iGO if it redetects the TMC hardware every time. It doesn't work if a saved configuration is used. This is a known problem, and beemer is actively working on a fix :).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] peste19:
cant anyone answer me this
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
@peste19

Hi,

Yes iGO will warn and re-route you if you tell him to do so (look in settings/navigation: TMC must be configured to be able to access this)

I don't known where you live, so I will answer for my country: I don't think all TMC stations provide the same information because some of them are free and others are not.

About the antenna, try to search this board, we already answer this.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] erups:
One thing i would like to see beemer address is my report of erratic behaviour of the driver itself.

Even WITHOUT Igo, sometimes it fails to decode and data.

Not even RDS is decoded.

I randomly switch options (mainly those related to audio re-routing) and then it starts to work again.

Until it stops.

Unloading and reloading the driver does not affect this behaviour.

Nor does a soft reset of the device.

This happenes even if the radio station is tuned correctly (and i can clearly hear the station without interference).

I am available for any kind of testing.

Polaris 3650

radio 1.59.42.15
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Polluxus:
@ Erups

Are you using Beta-1 already? I saw the same behavior in alpha-3 but since the update it works stable for me on my Diamond.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] erups:
Obviously.

I uninstalled Alpha3, and installed Beta1.

Going to try do that again with manually removing the dlls.

Update: no luck.

There is not dll to manually delete after uninstall.

Gonna try re-install but i doubt it solves the problem :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] stick7:
...and Navigon

Hi all!!! This application is fantastic... I'd like to ask to the developer of the software if it can work with Navigon 7 for PDA too.

Thank you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] johnpatcher:
Read up the thread. Navigon just supports GNS, whereas HyperGPS is using Royaltek, so Navigon isn't supported yet.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Polluxus:
Don't write off Navigon to fast. Route66 is also confirmed to work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Hakem:
headset

With the lines Remove all tmc entries from system.ini and add the rule below to your sys.txt:

[tmc]

saved_config_available="0"

TMC works perfect! (htc raphael and IGO) One minor problem is that i have to keep plugin the headset for reception. Now i can't charge the battery when navigating. Is there a solution for this?

This is Beta1
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Schlaefer:
@Hakem

Serach for HTC 2-in-1 Charging & Handsfree Adapter or try the 3-in-1 version!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SmokinMan:
Thx Hakem, that really works like a charm on my Touch HD! No more messing with the config files.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SkizZO:
Do you use the Alpha or beta1 version?

By the Way, i've made a mortscript script, who RESET the system.ini file (and make some other things):

;rimuove TF3D (+ ram c'è, meglio è - opzionale)
RegWriteDWord("HKLM","Software\Microsoft\Today\Items\TouchFLO 3D","Enabled",0)
Sleep(100)
RedrawToday
Sleep(500)

;Rinomina il file .dll
;rename("\Windows\GFMAPI.DLL","\Windows\gfmapi.dll")

;reimposta variabili in system.ini (sovrascrive un file giusto)
copy("\Memorizzazione Interna\Programmi\Igo8\save\system2.ini","\Memorizzazione Interna\Programmi\Igo8\save\system.ini",TRUE)

;avvia ed attiva hypergps per il TMC - installato nella memoria principale
if NOT WndExists "HyperGPS"
Run("\Programmi\HyperGPS\HGPSClient.exe")
Sleep(2000)

;attiva il driver di hypergps e minimizza
;MouseClick (400,100)
;Sleep(500)
;show "Desktop"
;Sleep(300)
EndIf

;aspetta chiusura di hgpsclient
While(WndActive("HyperGPS"))
sleep(1000)
EndWhile

;Avvia iGO8
Run("\Memorizzazione Interna\Programmi\Igo8\Igo8.exe")
Sleep(8000)

;Controllo ogni 10 secondi dell'apertura di igo8
While(ProcExists("Igo8.exe" ))
sleep(10000)
EndWhile

;Riattiva il TF3D
RegWriteDWord( "HKLM", "Software\Microsoft\Today\Items\TouchFLO 3D", "Enabled", 1)
Sleep(300)
RedrawToday

;Mostra Hypergps se aperto
if WndExists "HyperGPS"
Show("HyperGPS")
endif

...sorry for the italian explaination and remember, the Window title of HyperGPS, for the Alpha version is: "HGPSClient"; for the beta1 version is: "HyperGPS", to change in:

..... "if NOT WndExists "HyperGPS" ....
and
......" While(WndActive("HyperGPS"))"
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] druckgott:
Is it posible to use this app für Navigon MN7 ?

mfg

druckgott
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ggrew:
Did you read the thread? Especially post 369, only 6 above yours? ;)

It is not supported yet, because MN only supports GNS...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Hakem:
Thanks for the tip
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] erups:
I've basically given up with this thing.

No help from the dev, no debug, no functioning.

No nothing.

The darn thing simply doesn't decode anything most of the times.

Those few times it decodes, upon loading igo it doesn't get nothing, and upon exiting igo not even its own interface shows any decoding done anymore.

And it stays so for on and on until, who knows how and when, it acts up all over again for the briefest of time.

Ok it's me and my device since everybody seems able to use it, but i'd like at least a hint as to where to look to nail what's wrong.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lame123:
Beta1 on XPERIA

Tested it on XPERIA and can't get it to work.

Alpha3 was working perfectly (except the speaker-sound output) with iGO... i just had to search for the TMC device every time.

Uninstalled alpha 3, softreset, installed beta1, softreset and now i can't find any tmc channels in iGO. even the test-prog shows no code 8 lines any more. The good thing is that sound in iGO works great now.

I switched back to alpha3 and everything is like before... no sound through speaker, but TMC.

.... hope for a working version! VERY usefull tool!!!!! Thanks for this great work!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dolphine:
Unfortunately the behavior on my Diamond, WM 6.5 ROM BsB 6.5D is the same with the B1 DLL as with the updated "async" one.

The issue is that on second launch iGO successfully detects the hardware (so it is able to tune frequencies and play radio clearly in headphones), BUT does NOT find any TMC information, even though it did very well on the first start (same palce, same stations, same antenna).

Unloading, reloading driver does not help.

What helps is reloading the driver on different COM port and rescanning for the TMC hardware in iGO... but this way it is actually always FIRST iGO start with seach form TMC hardware.

It may be an iGO issue not the driver as such, I am yet going to play with iGO settings file.

However ultimately I am able to use the TMC for navigation so VERY MUCH THANKS for everything you have done...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pjam:
After a soft reset it is usually necessary to copy the gfmapi.dll into the windows folder again.

pjam
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mr.jaguar:
wow. that's odd, I'll try it and get back to you guys.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mr.jaguar:
I deleted and re-copied the gfmapi.dll into the windows directory, and everything is working ok, I got tmc in igo, but it was dropping out, and I had a solid radio signal. everything seems to be working great other than that, it would probably be usable on a regular basis, but I'm looking forward to more developments.

PS. in the US, clearchannel radio broadcasts TMC concurrently with all their channels, so if you can get any clearchannel radio station you can should be able to get tmc.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pidsw:
dumb question: when you say:

"-GPS + TMC not implemented"

How does IGO work without GPS? Does it use cell tower triangulation? I must be misinterpreting this.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Captain_Throwback:
I found that the auto-tuning feature appeared to be working, but it was moving on too fast to actually detect TMC data, for me. Once it got to a station I know has TMC data, I unchecked the box, waited 10 seconds or so, and usually then TMC data is detected.

I see this too, though I did hear audio try to come out of the speaker intermittently.

This is a bit of an annoyance, and it wasn't an issue with the previous GFMAPI. Is that something flywhc should look into, or is it related directly to HyperGPS? The GFMAPI file does still appear to be in my \Windows foler, but it has a folder icon rather than a file icon.

That's not a minus sign in front of "GPS". Its a bullet-point. I believe that's referring to GPS & TMC on the same COM port. GPS is, of course, a necessity for iGO to work. Currently, however, the GPS COM port and TMC virtual port must be different.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] flohtc:
I also have a Touch HD (with same rom versions), and the only way I found to get TMC messages is to let HGPSClient running on test page in the background (on a frequency with TMC messages), and then run iGo.

When I do that, I get TMC working, otherwise if I close HGPSClient and then run iGo, I don't get any TMC.

Hope this works
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] astrell:
Dear flohtc,

I do have HGPSClient running in the background. Yesterday I finally succeeded in getting some TMC messages. Today I made a roadtest, and the only thing that occured was, that I had no constant TMC reception and when I did for a split second, than the speaker was muted whatever the settings were. Now, while I am typing these I keep on getting error messages - no TMC available. So far I cannot recognise any patterns in the behaviour of all these.

What is more, when HGPSClient is running and I enter the test mode, nothing is displayed just the blank boxes. For the first time the frequency and - probably - the signal strength was on display and I could tune in for the required TMC station. When I now have HGPSCling running in the background and I start IGO8, for the first intance I see a connacted TMC receiver, with 0,00 frequency on display, than after a couple of second the screen changes into search mode, and no TMC hardware can be found.

I keep on deleting HypeGPS.log, but this doe not help either.

And all these after yesterday's successfull TMC data reception.

Any help is highly appreciated.

regards

astrell
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Alderan184:
Can anyone confirm that its working in austria too?

thanks for the great application

Okay now it works for me too
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MrKaon:
Still there is not success for me in the middle of Manchester, I can trace TMC signal at HGPSClient (101.1 MHz) but in iGO nothing
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] flohtc:
You can set the frequency on the test page by directly typing the radio frequency in the box and hit Set. You can type for example 100.4 and hit set, you don't have to use the arrows.

For the TMC, I have to leave HGPSClient running but also I have to leave the test page up (I do not close the test page where TMC info is displayed). Leaving HGPSClient running but not on the test page does not work for me in iGo.

Hope this helps
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] janfk:
Just short info from Denmark

Have Sony X1 and IGO.

The first version of the utility only run for about 2 minutes before loosing TMC, but the latest version seems to function almost perfectly.

Thanks to the developers for the good job.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
Some comments

I think that the slow responsiveness or even hung under iGo is related to the icontrols combination of GPSID and the HyperGPS stream driver. It doesn't happen on programs that doesn't use GPS data, like the test utility or DecoRDS. Working on it.

The sound not redirected to the speaker or even continuosly jumping from the speaker to the headset under iGo is related to iGo. The driver sets the sound on the speaker, but igo set it back to the headset. I have some ideas for trying to solve this. But there is a definitive solution: make your own antenna.

I've modified an Ebay HTC miniUSB to 3.5mm headphones adapter removing a jumper that makes the headphones to be detected. Then I've simply connected a 3.5mm jack with a 75cm cable. But ... working on it ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] johnpatcher:
It works for Eten devices also, so there must be a possibility at all. But I don't know anything about it :).

Could you provide us with some pictures maybe? Had a similiar plan, but want to see it first, if possible :p.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
Hi,

I'm trying to make my own antenna, but I'm looking for the 3.5mm jack pinout...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 4irm:
exactly the same issue here.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] as_x1:
same here on X1. A.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] BorisDeviant:
Same on Polaris Rev. B with wm6.5 Rom.

Keep up the good work !
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] giggetto:
same issue here on htc diamond.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pranik:
I've tried to use my standard usb cable as antenna....and it works. No more problem with speaker and iGo. If you connect the cable on PC the trick doesn't works anymore. Maybe it losts signal with pc chassis.

Great work
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MadMax1978:
Audio Routing

Hey, maybe this works: Audio Route (freeware tool)

With this tool you can route all audio from earpeace to speaker!

I tried it. But not for a really long time, you can download it from here:

http://teksoftco.com/index.php?section=freeware

alpha2 version is working really great and fast over here! (on iGO 8.3.2.xxxxxx)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Plattendoktor:
igo often has problems with tuning.

then i only get it work by trying a bit around with starting and stoping igo and the tmc driver and switching com ports.

it seems for me there are some com port problems.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] leaskovski:
Throwing your toys out of your pram isnt going to help. Remember, it still is only a beta (just come out of alpha as well).

The behaviour of the driver after it being used has been noted as an issue by a few people (starting igo for the second time iirc) and issues with the driver itself, is down to the other thread and not beemer as he is simply relaying the data out of the driver and onto the com port.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
HyperGPS Beta 2 released!

This one is the last version I'll do with the old GFMAPI. It's only for solving the iGO second start issue, the lowercase dll issue and optimize the TMC + GPS flow of data.

flywhc have released a new gfmapi that will be implemented in Beta 3, but as long as this new API means some big changes in the code I prefer to release this one with small modifications before.

Please test the TMC not recognized or not giving TMC data on the seond iGO start. In my side, with an HTC Diamond, OEM ROM works OK.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] iseeka:
beemer

users with basic driver recognition problems as polaris users have any hope?

i think all the polaris drivers have serious problems with the driver a only working once (restart re install etc) doesnt working)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
Try this version and if it doesn't work make a log and post it here, please.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] neo9596:
Beemer, with the last version Igo says NO TMC hardware, but in hypergps test mode works.

see you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Polluxus:
The second start issue isn't resolved here. Still no TMC signal in Igo. So I put back saved_config=0 in the sys.txt and now Igo can't find the TMC hardware at all. Will test some more later today but I think I have to fall back to beta-1.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zinger5:
Not working here

Just tried Beta 2 to see if it would hold the settings in Igo 8 but although it works great the first time the driver is loaded, the second time it still won't do so.

Unloading/Reloading the driver doesn't seem to work either but unloading the driver then changing the COM port to a different one does (forces Igo 8 to allow redetection of the TMC driver).

Really great little application though and i really appreciate the work going into it.

Cheers,

zinger5

Touch Diamond user
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] janfk:
I have tryed the B2 version.

1. Installed

2. HyperGPS, activate driver + test

3. IGO OK

4. 2 times restart IGO -> OK

5. 4.time restart -> no TMC -> HyperGPS (without stop/start driver, just test) -> OK,

Start IGO -> OK.

No. 5 could relate to my poor antenna for TMC reception.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] blackjag:
same problem here

steps i took:

- i installed the B2 version on a diamond touch

- askings me to remove previous version (beta1)

- it removed previous version

- installed the b2

- start hypergps

- activated the driver

- searched for radion stations which have TMC RTTM,8...

- program quickly foudn them

- hit ok

- started iGO

- sys.txt i have a line which says

[tmc]

saved_config_available="0"

- TMC settings -> set Royal_tech, Port 9, hit autodetect

- not finding the tmc "hardware"

- i do hear the radio stations thru my headset (and sometimes thru the speaker)

im sure i made lots of mistakes lol, but please enlighten me :)

thank you
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] raz0r09:
Halo,

any idea? I can´t reinstall Beta2 because of missing system rights!? I alredy restarted my device (Touch HD) and also reinstalled the certs.cab. But always the same error: You don´t have enough system rights to install this program?

What can I do to install it?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] giggetto:
Same issue here, i tried also to change com, to soft-reset the diamond and all others tricks with system.ini and sys.txt, but it dosn't work anymore.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
WARNING

HyperGPS Beta 2 Reloaded!!!!

Please DOWNLOAD AGAIN Beta 2. Playing with Beta 3 I've found two bugs that prevented hardware recognition under iGO.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] blackjag:
u mean reload beta 1? since beta 2 is giving the hardware recognition problems..

when it DOES work it works flawlessly, i so hope u can fix the issues addressed here. Thank you so much for ur hard work and effort
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cupra TDI:
Beta 1 did well under iGO8. I tried it once yesterday.

Today I wanted to try it for a second time, but it didn't work.

So I uninstalled Beta 1 and tried to upgrade to Beta 2. But I don't get this app to install. Always receiving the error message: Installation was unsuccesfull... does not have sufficient system permissions.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] raz0r09:
The same by me !!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
I've changed the beta 2 file. Please, download it again
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] raz0r09:
Unfortunately it doesn`t function for me. Always the same error Message: You don´t have enough system permissions to install .....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cupra TDI:
Same problem again and aigain. Also a SoftReset did not help.