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[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rajanraghuvanshi:
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[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] thebestguru333:
Can someone enlighten me as to why is it important to flash the raphael without the sim card in it, as well as the sd card. I just flashed 2 roms with the sim card in it because i didnt remember to take it out, and i want to know what to expect.

Note: i previously used to own the kaiser and i never took my sim or sd card out when i would flash a rom and this never caused me any problems so i assumed the same would be true for the raphael.

So whats the reasoning behind this? is it safe to continue flashing with the sim in the phone?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mddjr01:
I have never had a problem flashing with SIM card in (I have flashed hundreds of times), but from what I have read, if the card is in and a call comes in while it is still loading it could mess up the flash (customization part of flash). But always better to be safe than sorry.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] thebestguru333:
thats a very good reason as to why one shouldnt have the sim in there, but i highly doubt the phone can receive a call through the sim while the rom is being flashed(process when the phone shows the percent bar from 0% - 100%), some please correct me if i am wrong.

Now I can also understand that a call can or may be received when the rom is installing stuff on the first boot.

Any other input on this subject?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] r04d5t3r:
I'm not sure about possible incoming call when flashing, but I highly agree with this guy :D:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sarkanik:
I always flash with SIM card in raphael. I presume I can't receive a call when the card is protected by PIN code. Without entering it the phone can't make calls or even receive them...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] jmckeejr:
I never take my SIM or SD out. I have recieved a call before during customization(not flashing,which should be impossible) and it didn't have any ill effects. The SD: I'm pretty sure this can stay as some people use it to flash with RAPHIMG.nbh. Also, how is the sdconfig to run during customization if you leave it out. I used to do the whole take my phone apart, remove SIM/SD, flash, etc.etc. but it takes twice as long and I haven't seen any benifits. By the way, I am flashing ROMs at least 2-3 times a day while developing a new ROM. Only thing I notice with SIM in is that connection setup tends to popup during customization, but with SIM out I get the PIN pad instead. Maybe a seasoned PRO can tell us why it is supposed to be necessary.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hilaireg:
I used to follow the practice of removing my SIM and SD card as well as plugging the charger in when flashing.

Since i've been cooking my own ROM's, I've ceased the practice of removing the SIM and SD Card - primarily because I am using the SD card to flash my ROM to the device. I still keep the device plugged to the charger.

The problem with an SD card flash approach, is that the SD card could be faulty resulting in a corrupted flash. As the device is HardSPL'ed, corrective measures are simply: obtain a new SD card, copy the ROM to it, initiate bootloader ... and one is "back in business".

HTH,

:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hilaireg:
LOL

You're one step ahead of me. :)

ASFAIK, the PIN pad (assume you mean the MS Dialer) comes up as it is apparently possible to place emergency 911 calls without a SIM present - haven't personally tried calling 911 to find out. Same as when the phone is security locked, it is possible to bypass the PIN Lock and place an emergency call to 911.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] jmckeejr:
I have actually called 911 by accident once. When I was a noob, the first time I flashed I thought it was askin for a pin # or something. LOL. It does work, I hung up right away.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] thebestguru333:
Awesome replies guys,

however one has not convinced me to take the sim and sd card out when flashing... i am going to continue flashing without taking the sim/sdcard out. It just saves a lot of time.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rgb-rgb:
I never remove the sim or sd card when flashing. Never had any problems.

Just flashed a ROM and after the flash and hard reset, while the initial configuration was going on, I did receive a call. I did not get the ringtone when the call came in but I could see the lights blinking. I'm not sure if I could have answered the calll and I did not try it. I did have a voicemail when done. I do not see any side effects from it either.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sguerra923:
Maybe we should have poll of who removes there simcards/sdcards and who doesn't lol j/p... :D

I actually remove mine after ever flash.. but seems like "everyones not doing it" lol so I guess I'll just on that bandwagon lol
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] SamsungGalaxySamsung:
sim and sd don't have to be removed. when flashing, the phone is in bootloader so there can't go anything wrong. i flash a half year now, once a day. I don't have lost my sim contacts or any content on my sd.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] pyraxiate:
Ive flashed between my Kaiser and my Raphael at least 1000 times. Ive ALWAYS flashed via SD ( as i primarily use a mac and refuse to reboot into MS to use activesync ) and have NEVER removed my SIM in the process. Ive had calls come in ( As others stated, I just let the voicemail pick it up ). Not only is SD flashing SAFER ( never worry about losing a connection by bumping a cable ect ) But is it also FASTER. I carry several radio/ril combos and several OS's on the SD card itself and flash on the fly. Its a good way for me to test which radios work near which towers ( as I commute a lot )

Just my input here. Hope this helps some.

PS

I do make PIM backups of my contacts occasionally just so I have a somewhat current backup copy
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] CBA0209:
I flashed mine with the SIM card and SD card in the phone before... I don't think it hurts anything.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] lukesky:
how about flashing via the microS/D card and plugging in the power adaptor? shouldn't be a problem either right?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] B4PJS:
Its actually quite a good idea to plug it in while flashing :) stops you getting a bad flash from running out of battery
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] AndyJ91:
I've flashed with SIM and SD card in before and there where no problems. I haven't received any calls though so I can't tell you how safe it is to keep the SIM in..

I remove it now, better safe than sorry.
[General Topics] rogydoux:
Hi,

I noticed that the contacts in my HTC Touch don't sync with my outlook if no email address is present in the contact on the phone. As soon as I enter an email address into the contact, the contact will also appear on outlook.

The thing is I want to to sync ALL contacts, not just the ones with emails. I think it can be useful to have the phone numbers or street address in my outlook too even if I don't know (or don't use) the person's email address.

I understand outlook contacts is mainly to keep email addresses but I also use it as a general contacts books for street adddress, phone numbers, birthdays, etc...

What I'm doing now is enter a random email address like "no@email" in the contact to make sure it syncs but I'm pretty sure there's a better solution...

Thanks very much!

Remi:):mad:
[General Topics] rogydoux:
Can someone at least confirm me that the behavior is the same on every mobile phone?

Thanks!
[General Topics] Rudegar:
no I've never heard about such behaviour before

non of my wm devices ever don anything of the sorts

tons of my contacts don't even have phone numbers or emails
[General Topics] nir36:
this belongs in the Q&A section.

thank you
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
Because it has all the features that I thought the branded Vodafone version would have....
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Branwen:
seconded.

Also, i've talked to HTC, and they say no updates for vodafone users. So root please!

(also, for what its worth they seem to have really rather good customer services!)

"

Dear Tim, Thank you for contacting HTC Europe. You ask a good question! At the moment we have received no information from Taiwan regarding how they plan on managing software updates for the Vodafone HTC Magic, and whether or not Vodafone customers will be able to get an enhanced, HTC application filled Android update. If I was asked to speculate, I would most likely say no, Vodafone customers will not be able to obtain the HTC Android software version - my rationale behind this is that T-Mobile customers did not get the HTC Dream software (although Cupcake was very similar), and also generally speaking even with our WM ROMs this is never usually possible - but I can not say for certain! Until we are offered more information from Taiwan I will have to ask you to be patient. Kind Regards, Perry HTC Europe

"
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
Now that we have root (thx Haykuro) does anybody have the org. HTC rom/english with the MS exchange mail app.?? Please....
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cruzzade:
The problem is probably to find someone who has access to the rom :) I'm dying to get my hands on the rom from the soon to be released swedish HTC Magic but I guess that won't be so easy since someone has to buy the phone, root and...backup? We should have someone on the inside (HTC) ;D
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] duffnut:
there are a couple of threads in this forum from people who said they had the asian sapphire, and were willing to help. I'll try pm them later.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
Yeah duffnut saw the treads too, but I think they need help with dumping the rom and putting it back together... and I´m not the one :-)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
I just sold my Vodafone branded HTC Magic and I´m getting the real deal tomorrow - HTC Magic from HTC - not branded (only HTC). With all the apps. I miss plus MS exchange.

I´ll do a Nandroid backup and upload the .img files here when I get it done.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Draxter:
That would be nice :) then i can flash my Magic with it once I have it :D
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cmf:
Top man! Thanks :)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
Lets just hope it works for you guys with the Nandroid backup system.img, or someone will tell me to do a dump....(of the firmware/rom)

I personally can´t wait to get a fully functional Android phone for work and home.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] guinnes.s:
When it will be yours????:d
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
Tomorrow morning at nine...... releasedate i Denmark.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] janjan:
Nice to hear, its means I will able to use the danish tx9?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
Hej Janjan, no I don´t think they put in the Danish tx9 yet - sorry....

Troede du ville sælge....
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] janjan:
ups trist :( . Jeg har faktisk 2 fra vodafon..sælger kun en af dem..:)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Carabei:
any news? :rolleyes:
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] MontAlbert:
if you get it done can you write a step by step instruction to do it please. I am getting an aussie HTC Magic in a couple of weeks and want to be able to back it up so i can either root it or go back to it from a rooted version if required.

thx
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
I just got home with the new HTC Magic - branded HTC... with all the goodies.

Did not root it yet or anything else.

I´m doing a fastboot boot recovery-new.img - and the PC says Okay for downloading and for booting - and reboots the Magic, but it just stays froozen on the htc magic page.

Should I root it first? and try again...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
I can`t root it either - because it freezes on the htc magic screen with Haykuros recovery-new.img.

In the recovery utility is says;

reboot or

apply update

wipe and

THIS:

E: Can`t open /cache/recovery/command

I don´t know if its safe to do the update without the recovery-new-img.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] daldroid:
Joost 39, I bought a TIM Magic less than a week ago and I had a similar problem.

If your original HTC Magic is like my TIM Magic, you can find that getting root privileges is very easy, but at the moment I suggest not to flash any image which cannot be fastbooted.

e.g. After getting root at shell access I used flash_image to flash the recovery-new.img. I lost a bootable recovery partition, I didn't make a dump of it (very stupid...), so no way to reboot in recovery mode.

I now found a way to recover my original recovery partition and to start a special recovery-new.img (Haykuro's based).

I didn't have enough time to test flashing my special image and I'm not sure it will work for you. I'm sorry I'm short on time to help you right now, but if you don't get any helpful answer in the next hours, I'll get in touch.

In the meanwhile, please verify if you can have root access simply by installing a terminal on device (like better terminal) and issuing su command.

Or maybe with "adb shell", then "su".

Verify uid and gid of su user issuing the command "id".

If positive, you could dump your recovery and boot partitions and maybe (maybe, I'm not sure) I can generate a working recovery with nandroid for you (and a boot.img with full root access too).

Maybe you get help from more experienced users, remember it's my first android device and I spent on it only a few hours since I bought it a week ago (Yes, it's a disclaimer ;-))

Bye
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
Hi daldroid, Thx for the answer... I was just trying to help people getting the HTC rom.

But tried the update and of course it fails verifying.

I´ll try out the terminal and se if I can get rootaccess the old fashioned way.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
I can´t root it or anything else - sorry..

The recovery.img we have from Haykuro fails when booting- so I can´t do a Nandroid backup either..
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] janjan:
Is it with 192 MB RAM like vodafon or what? Any news with rooting :)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
Yeah janjan...

Nope - I´m not the man for making the correct recovery.img - maybe Haykuro will help out?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] buffet:
Joost39,

Hmm, we discussed in another thread that native HTC Magic (non-Vodafone) should have 288mb RAM according to HTC website. Could you check once again for us and run the following command in Terminal application:

cat /proc/meminfo |grep -i memtotal

Thanks!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Z3ko:
(sry for my english) Can you Backup your HTC Magic Rom with Nandroid an Upload the system.img,boot.img and userdata.img? pls. pls. pls :D

i waiting all day long for this^^

Edit: Ohh... i see you have trouble with the recovery.img, i hope Haykuro can do anything :(
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] janjan:
smile..hehe ok. Yes Haykuro is great.He will do something. waiting for it. by the way what about danish language? Is the HTC-rom with danish language or its just like vodafon. according to http://www.htc-magic.dk/ its with 192 MB RAm. I don't know really.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] dallerup:
but according to this http://www.htc.com/dk/product/magic/specification.html

the text is in danish and says 288 mb
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cmf:
Bugger :-(
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
I get lots of info - but only;

MemTotal 197144 kb

Memfree 7368 kb
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cruzzade:
The thing is, I believe the Vodafone phones have 288 mb RAM too...checked my Vodafone Magic and it says that I have 273 mb free space in Internal phone storage? Is that the ROM then? Why the hell report rom status in SD Card & Phone storage >_<
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
There only English as language.....
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] buffet:
Joost39: Which means totally you have 288Mb (around 95mb is used by some low-level things like framebuffer and GSM) as stated on HTC website.

cruzzade: yes, that free space is ROM, not RAM.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cruzzade:
Well that total would amount to 192 mb :/ (197144 / 1024) What does it say in SD Card & Phone storage for you?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cruzzade:
But when I used a program from Market for showing free/used memory it reported 270 mb free, 28 mb used? That is far from 512 mb...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] angelsanges:
also me have TIM android g2...how you created the special image?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
I sent Haykuro a PM - lets see if he has the time to helpout, so that you guys can get the HTC rom.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cruzzade:
Is there Swedish language support in your firmware? Swedish wordlist?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
Nope, theres only English for us here in Scandinavia on both counts....

And I really don´t know why cruzzade?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] janjan:
You mean there is no danish or swedish xt9 too?I just tired the RogerMagicV2. Works fast & nice and also with danish xt9.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] bernard black:
There is no Danish under "Locales", but if you go to "Touch input" under "Locale & text" and then "Keyboard language", you may select several languages amongst some of them Swedish, Danish and Norwegian.

This option should also be available on the Danish Magic .
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cruzzade:
That should mean that there is a swedish wordlist right? Since wordlist are connected to keyboard language.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] bernard black:
Yupp, that is correct.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
You are right Bernard.... thx - didn´t check that keyboard language setting; Theres English, Danish, Swedish, Norwegian.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
RAM/ROM

On the HTC box the specs. are;

Model A6161 HTC Magic

Processor Qualcomm MSM7200A, 528 MHz

ROM: 512 MB

RAM: 288 MB
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] bernard black:
What baseband version do you have?

The Swedish phones comes with:

firmware 1,5

baseband 62.52s.20.18u_3.22.20.17 ,

kernel 2.6.27-dd63d1eb u70000@Android-x01 )

If i'm not misstaken, that's a new baseband version. On my Vodafone branded phone from Germany I have baseband version: 62.50S.20s17U_2.22.19.261 which I think is the same one as here: http://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
All the Scandinavian HTC Magic´s comes with that baseband and bootloader!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
Heres a link to my Nandroidbackup of the system, boot, recovery.img files. (Thx to mr. Daldroid)

Use them only if you know how....

http://rapidshare.com/files/241388756/HTC_Magic_img.zip
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cmf:
Super! Thank you. I'll let you know if my Vodafone model likes it or not :)

I suppose the problem is that we need root to run "adb flash", but I'm sure it would be easy to make an update.zip out of these files with just simple "adb flash xxx" commands in the sh script, signed with the test-keys that the recovery-new.img is happy to load with, if my understanding is correct.

Just as a test first, I will see if the recovery.img from your nandroid can be booted with fastboot on here. If not, I will not flash the recovery.img, maybe, but still the others.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cmf:
Woohoo. I think it's looking good. It's past the vodafone screen, just had a musical "htc" come up.. now waiting for boot.

All I have done so far is "fastboot flash system system.img"
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cmf:
Hmmm. Something is not right. My data is still all there, that's OK, because I didn't re-write data.img or do factory reset. All the applications look OK (the Haykuro root stuff is gone, but all HTC stuff there), but the kernel version says:

2.6.29-daproy/haykuro dan@Sunnyvale)

Build number says 2.16.401.5 146733 CL#33743 release-keys

Now, the release-keys must mean it's proper HTC, right? but why the Haykuro kernel?

Perhaps the kernel comes from boot.img ? I guess that makes sense.

I will flash boot.img also and see what happens.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cmf:
OK. My Vodafone model does not like the recovery.img or the boot.img. I guess the kernel is not compatible.

So I will re-flash the boot.img out of Haykuro's Rogers G1 -> G2 port. This is a shame because it's probably the kernel where drivers are present and therefore bugs like cpu usage on bluetooth, audio volume etc are set.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cmf:
and now it is working again.

So for Vodafone model: boot.img of Haykuro, and system.img of Joost39 works. I am just not sure if this is any different to just using Haykuro's Rogers port, since we don't have HTC kernel.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cmf:
Wifi says "Unable to start Wi-Fi"

I guess the hardware is really slightly different than the Asia model, so for now Haykuro's Rogers port is best to use, but I'm sure there is stuff in here that can help the ROM builders to do more. There is no Italian bug in this either.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] daldroid:
Yes, kernel is booted from boot.img and if have a vodafone Magic and you re-flash the original HTC rom, I suppose you'll have problems either booting or with wifi, bluetooth and/or camera
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] daldroid:
You are welcome ;-)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] daldroid:
TIM Magic and original HTC Magic have newer SPL and Radio than latest published SPL.

The board is PVT 32A while vodafone one is PVT 32B, I don't know the difference, if any.

Bye
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
But did you try flashing the boot.img at this point?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] MontAlbert:
can you write a quick step by step guide on how to do it? for those of us who want to do the nandroid before we root just in case we have to go back for warranty purposes....

thanks
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
Carl did one here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=517096 But it only works on HTC Magic from Vodafone.

You need the recovery.img that Daldroid is working on, for making a Nandroidbackup on the org. HTC Magic.

With that image (recovery.img) in the SDK/TOOLS you only boot it - don´t have to flash it.

1. Power of the phone and then hold Back+Power for a while.

Phone goes i fastbootmode.

2. On your PC type; Fastboot boot recovery.img

Phone boots on the new image.

3. Hold Back+Power again shortly.

You now get the menu for recovery including the option to do a Nandroidbackup.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cmf:
Yes. It hangs in the same way the recovery.img does when trying to boot that. recovery.img and boot.img both obviously contain the same kernel which doesn't work on this unit.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
Okay thx for trying it out cmf...

Maybe Daldroid can make an update.zip of the org. HTC Magic images that works.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] MontAlbert:
ok. thanks. will wait for new recovery image from daldroid. (and for 3 to actually release it :D )
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
I´m out though - selling the HTC Magic again - love my iPhone more....
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cmf:
Palm Pre dude.. http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/03/palm-pre-review/
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Joost39:
LOL - could easy be me :-) Thx cmf. Damn you - it really looks nice. :-) 600 USD on Ebay --- :-(
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cmf:
Yes it looks awesome. Only went on sale in USA yesterday, cdma ev-do. Gsm version not here yet.