yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Kisja:
Hi,

I've tried B6 and Navigon seems to recognize TMC now, but with the mentioned on-off effect.

I've tried both Modes:

combined GPS

<TMC>
<RadioStationScan>1</RadioStationScan>
<AutoRecalculation>1</AutoRecalculation>
<PreferPay>0</PreferPay>
<TMCPort>9</TMCPort>
<TMCBaudrate>4800</TMCBaudrate>
<DRVPrefix>COM</DRVPrefix>
<Freq>899</Freq>
</TMC>
<GPS>
<Type>1</Type>
<GPSPort>9</GPSPort>
<TMCPort>9</TMCPort>
<Baudrate>4800</Baudrate>
<DRVPrefix>COM</DRVPrefix>
<BluetoothDevice>
<Name />
<Address></Address>
</BluetoothDevice>
</GPS>

HyperGPS Config:

COM Port: 9

FM Band: CCIR

Data Output: TMC + GPS Data

Sound Output: Headset

Meute Radio: Tunend Sound

Log Mode: Full Logged

Protocol: GNS

separate Mode:

<TMC>
<RadioStationScan>1</RadioStationScan>
<AutoRecalculation>1</AutoRecalculation>
<PreferPay>0</PreferPay>
<TMCPort>9</TMCPort>
<TMCBaudrate>4800</TMCBaudrate>
<DRVPrefix>COM</DRVPrefix>
<Freq>899</Freq>
</TMC>
<GPS>
<Type>2</Type>
<GPSPort>9</GPSPort>
<TMCPort />
<Baudrate>4800</Baudrate>
<DRVPrefix>COM</DRVPrefix>
<BluetoothDevice>
<Name />
<Address></Address>
</BluetoothDevice>
</GPS>

HyperGPS Config:

COM Port: 9

FM Band: CCIR

Data Output: TMC Data

Sound Output: Headset

Meute Radio: Tunend Sound

Log Mode: Full Logged

Protocol: GNS

My Device: Touch Diamond 1

And since B6 there is something wrong with the Sound Output. With the same settings I can hear the tuned sound in B5, but in B6 I hear nothing. And I'm missing RTTMC,8 Messages (B5 worked!)

HyperGPS.Log attached!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] faeArai:
8.3.2.9x is a cracked PNA version made to run on pda. So you'll never know if there is a bug in TMC-driver or a bug in igo. Please use a real pda-version of igo to ensure that a bug is realy caused by TMC-driver made in this thread.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
Sorry if I don't answer to every post, but I've taken some that says what all are saying as a reference :(

I think it is related to GFM API and your device. Could your test another app based on the last api like PowerRadio and see if it has the same issue? (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=4046501#post4046501)

Sorry, My bad :(

None, sorry. The only interesting test in GNS are from real GNS receivers. Thanks!

About block ratio. Its OK. Why not?

About autotune. Have you tested on HGPS Client? see above user answer.

About weird characters: I only know what characters should go on 1,2 and 8 position, the others are based on logs based on internet. I think there are bettera than previous version ones.

About autotunning: I's nor an HGPS problem but igo one. See your log!!!

About GNS NEMEA sentences interlacing. What about when no NEMEA sentences are sent? My main test are with iGO and I only send GNS, not NMEA and still have the 100% CPU usage problem.

Please make a test with iGO, only TMC and puting a "man on the middle" COM port replicator.

GNS unde Navigon:

DOES NOT WORK.

I don't know wgere is the problem but even the driver being managging all the IO controls, navigon and igo go to 100% usage under GNS. That's why it is recognized but disconnects!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dickerhund:
GNS Receiver

Hi, I have this:

Navigon Triceiver.

If you tell me what to do, maybe I can help with logs
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
Thanks for your answers.

I've made a test with Royaltek TMCDemo: block ratio keeps the last value after I disconnect the headset... I don't think it should be that way.

Yes I've made the test with HGPSClient (test app) as I said on my post. I cannot tune after 99.9MHz. Everything works fine with PowerRadio (I'm using the latest GFMAPI.dll with PowerRadio).

I've just made this test again and I still have this problem:

- The "|<" and ">|" has no effect in GNS mode! I can only use the ">" and "<" buttons.

- I cannot tune after 99.9MHz and I have "..>" or "<.." showing, instead of the frequency (GNS and Royatek). After that I cannot disable the driver and HGPSClient crashes, I have to soft reset.

OK. I will check again and will keep you in touch.

I've made a test with a glofiish x800. See the first part of my post here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4078158&postcount=1239 But never mind, we can use it that way.

Why send only GNS sentences? Every RDS/TMC devices have GPS capability and use one port by mixing TMC/RDS and GPS. If you think GNS can work without mixing NMEA sentences, that's fine.

So the problem could come from the way the driver interact with iGO. See the second part of my post about acknowledgments here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4078158&postcount=1239

Cheers
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] StarMonkee:
That does actually explain a few things, I try to keep it up to date and in this most recent ones I've noticed a few features missing (things like allowing you to edit speed camera locations on the fly).

Thanks for the info - do you know what version numbers correspond to a 'pure' pda release?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
DONATORS

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Thanks to Robert T. for his donation. Already working on beta 7 thanks to your impulse ;)

Great!

If you can use it with iGO using a COM port redirector like GPS Gate http://franson.com/gpsgate/ . I think the demo version will be enought. Make a log with "allow everything".

Thanks!

-Block factor: Understood ;)

It works on my side. I'll take a look to this again

GNS does not support scan commands, only direct tunning.

It is easier to debug if there is less information, simply. Once we solve this we can go one step further.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] giggetto:
I tested PowerRadio and I don't have the same issue as HGPS. I have a Touch Diamond and I have the same issue of TD2.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] capt_harlock77:
Hello,

I have the same issue about tuning above 99.9 MHz -- as L_o_k_i already said, I can't manual tune above 99.9, and if I select auto-tune in iGO after some seconds I get a "TMC Hardware not found" error. Beta 5 worked correctly. I have an HTC Diamond.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] capt_harlock77:
Sorry -- double post. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
@Beemer

Hi,

Here are more information with modus operandi:

- soft reset

- run HyperGPS with: COM9, CCIR, TMC+GPS Data, Speaker, Tuned sound, Not logged, Royaltek

- activate the driver

- run menu/test

- set frequency to 99MHz and then tune until 99.9 with ">" button

It's OK until I reach 99.9, and when I click one more time on ">" I cannot get 100MHz!

- close test

- desactivate the driver

- reactivate the driver

- run menu/test

I get the weird symbol (see the attached pic). If I try to tune back or forth, everything get stucked. So as you can see, the Royaltek protocol has also a problem with tuning.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pur_berger:
Strange Behaviour ... after using TMC no Dataconnection possible ..?

Anyone else has experianced this behaviour? When using the TMC after exiting you have no dataconnection anymore (even if it's showing active) - only after reset you are able to use internet or onlineconnection again ...

Regards

Markus
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] alex-000:
Hi Guys, i've installed HyperGPS_WM6_B6.cab.

I've got Htc Touch Hd, Igo8.3.1 and skin DiMkaWert_1.1.11.8_ABPTCX.

I open Igo, go to Tmc Settings, select Royaltec and port 9 and then i start hardware search. The hardware is not found. So i edit system.ini with:

[tmc]

saved_config_available="1"

saved_config_classname="NMEA_GPSTMC_ROYALTEK"

saved_config_portname="COM"

saved_config_port="9"

saved_last_tuning_mode="0"

saved_last_frequency="958"

Now i don't understand if TMC work or not work. if i click gps icon i don't see any information about TMC....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zippert:
Works perfectly already in the house after easy install, will test later on the road, thanks!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wis38:
beta 6 working, but...

B6 tested on Cruise WM 6.1 official rom. TMC is working with iGO8 :)

I tried to read all the thread and maybe I've missed this but I'm having troubles with the audio.

When using the original headphone from HTC no problems, the driver redirects the audio to the speaker so that I can listen to driving directions.

But with the headphone I cannot recharge the phone, so to get the antenna I'm going through an Y cable, with the USB connected to the charger and the 3.5" jack to a headphone. With this configuration, no sound on the speaker, even trying with other audio toggling tools.

Only workaround found was to revert audio to the bluetooth (my wife is even more happy with that :D )

g.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] StarMonkee:
I tried earlier with the same iGo version (PNA one) with beta 5 and everything works perfectly, so from what I can tell it has to be the TMC driver causing the problems.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 2me:
---

Hi,

I have installed the (last) version of iGO8 v.8.3.2.93112 (Jun 8 2009) on my HTC Touch Diamond 2. Everything went flawlessly and everything did work without any problems, with the proper display resolution . The automatic screen rotation is not working, but you can choose the screen orientation (portrait or landscape) from iGO settings. (on my brand new Diamond 2, the automatic screen rotation is not working, but I assuming that this is a result of one of the WM settings, because the G-sensor is working).

I've added "gfmapi.dll" (name with small letters) in "Windows" directory and I've installed HyperGPS. Again, everything went flawlessly. BUT, when I started iGO8 I got the same error. The "data.zip" was not corrupted, at all.

I found which was generating this error in my case.

I was using a skin for iGO (otherwise VERY good, very nice and very useful) with the appropriate resolution made by Gurjon, GJ5.11.

And I got rid off this error by simple switching back to "default" iGO skin. It seems that this is a known bug for GJ5.11 skin.

It may work for you....

Success and best regards,

2me
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] michelD:
I think and experianced that you are right: with Beta6, if you don't kill properly Hyper_GPS when exiting iGO8.3, you will clearly have malfunctionning when you restart iGO.

But in the contrary, (for exemple after hard reset), Beta6 works like a charm !!:)

Best regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] navychief52:
Sprint Touch Pro

May I assume that those of us with Sprint's neutered FM Radio are unable to take advantage of this ? I've tried for a few days in finding a way to enable a radio with no luck.

The apps install, but no data.

Thanks and kind regards.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] alex-000:
Now it's ok, it works!!!!!!!!!!!!

I had never used TMC and was wrong.

I have to use it with headphones always connected to receive data traffic???
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dickerhund:
Hi beemer,

I made a log-file with GPS Gate as you asked. If it is not enough, just ask again.

What I noticed is, if you switch on auto-tuning in igo, the scanning goes very fast and igo misses a lot of stations with tmc. Only if you use manual tuning, igo checks long enough for tmc data coming in.

Regards Benjamin
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
Unfortunately there is no TMC commands (althought there are TMC messages) on that log. Could you avoid nmea sentences to be sent from the device?

I've attached a terminal program. Please install and select Hexadecimal in the second menu. Then log to file and finally connect it to the output of the serial port splitter. This will give us a full hexadecimal log.

Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] PGLion:
I have also tried installing beta5 but this does noet work either . Than I tested on beemer's advice the application Power Radio which results in a FMAPI error.

- Is this a typical Touch Pro 2 error?

- Is there a solution available to get this to work?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Medusar:
Sorry for the late reply. I tried power radio. It finds all radio stations, and RDS. When searching, I can briefly hear the tuned sound when it finds a station. However, I cannot hear the station anymore after that. I think this is a bug in power radio, as I can't switch the mute button on or off. (I don't know which is mute or not mute).

So power radio can receive the rds signal, and find radio channels in the entire range. I suppose it's not the GFM API then.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dickerhund:
Hi beemer,

Did as you asked, but don't know if all settings were correct. At the very least I got a binary file. Tell me if you need anything else.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] emersonvier:
I use HTC Touch HD, test IGO 8.3.2.71348 , I found the TMC signal on 96.1Mhz, but not recive any information about the traffic.

As possible check my log file attach?

EMERSON VIER
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jose-Ramon:
I'm glad to see everything you have progressed in this thread. :)

In this file, there are 5 TMC events:

PI:B034 - AID:CD46 - PS: JEITO <<< (Dynamic PS)

LTN:B-13 / Op:- Indica / Gr:8A

________________________________

L:1452 -1/E:701 (D0) #0

>>> (LTN:B-13) Loc: 1452

Roadworks

---(TMC: 1)---{@1}---

L:1463 -1/E:701 (D0) #0

>>> (LTN:B-13) Loc: 1463

Roadworks

---(TMC: 2)---{@2}---

L:1462 +1/E:701 (D0) #0

>>> (LTN:B-13) Loc: 1462

Roadworks

---(TMC: 3)---{@3}---

L:3717 +1/E:701 (D0) #0

>>> (LTN:B-13) Loc: 3717

Roadworks

---(TMC: 4)---{@4}---

L:1452 +1/E:701 (D0) #0

>>> (LTN:B-13) Loc: 1452

Roadworks

---(TMC: 5)---{@5}---
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
Thanks!

It only have the TMC device trafic, not the iGO one but it is something at least.

Hi Jose Ramón,

We are having problems with GNS protocol, it works with DecoRDS but in iGO and Navigon takes the CPU up to 100% and doesn't work.

dickerhund have posted a real device log that have some weird commands, and perhaps you can help us:

3F 00 00 46 69 01 55 00 00 3F

3F 00 00 46 5F 01 55 00 00 3F

3F D8 04 05 2F 5F 1A 41 20 3F

3F 00 00 46 5F 01 55 00 00 3F

3F D8 04 05 28 5F 41 53 57 3F

3F 00 00 46 00 01 00 00 00 3F

Some NMEA sentences here....

3F 00 00 66 2F 01 55 00 00 3F

3F D8 04 85 28 48 6C 2D 68 3F

3F 00 00 79 00 6F 6B 00 00 3F

3F 00 00 66 32 01 55 00 00 3F

This is extracted from dickerhund log. Seems that it tunes 98.0 (3F 00 00 46 69 01 55 00 00 3F) but without TMC (01 55)

Then inmediately jumps to 97.0 (3F 00 00 46 5F 01 55 00 00 3F) and receive the first RDS packet (3F D8 04 05 2F 5F 1A 41 20 3F)

After other tune message and another RDS packet send a 87.5 with TMC tune packet!!!! (3F 00 00 46 00 01 00 00 00 3F)

But then come a weird packet (3F 00 00 66 2F 01 55 00 00 3F). There are a lot of these (3F 00 00 66 xx 01 55 00 00 3F) packets in the trafic but never with the xx matching something logic.

Now a TMC packet (3F D8 04 85 28 48 6C 2D 68 3F) and another weird packet (3F 00 00 79 00 6F 6B 00 00 3F). There are also a lot of these in the trafic, but always equal.

And another type 3F 00 00 66 weird packet but with different xx than the previous one.

Do you have more information on GNS that the one you wrote on the sourceforge wiki?

Thanks ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
Hi,

It's not easy to log messages from iGO and from a device. I search the web to find an application capable of logging bi-directional traffic on a com port... I didn't find any! In fact I only found a work around with gpsgate. See here:

http://franson.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10107. The problem is that you will have 2 log files, one with the command from iGO and one with the answers from the device.

dickerhund, can you try this method and post the 2 log files here for Beemer?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jose-Ramon:
About GNS protocol, I don't have more information. However, I think the problem is that the navigation software is changing the tune. It may change for some reason of these:

1) The reception is bad = the rate of RDS groups received is very low.

2) You don't get the information ODA (Group: 3A), where is the LTN information. ODA is essential information to decode TMC (Group: 8A).

2) The map used for navigation, does not include the table of locations TMC (LTN), which is being received by ODA (Group: 3A)

Check in that logfile, if there is any frame that starts like this: 3F D8 04 3 .....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
Yes I have many 3F D8 04 35 30 00 66 CD 46 3F for example.

About the other commands, if you haven't information perhaps dickerhund could help with a bidirectional log followinf the loki method :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] emersonvier:
Jose, Where/How you found this information?

EMERSON VIER
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
I'm doinf a bidirectional logger. I'll post it here ASAP.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dickerhund:
Hi Loki,

I tried it, but I seem to have the same problem as in post 3 of your linked threat. If I mux the input to the gps device with a file log stream, IGO does not detect any TMC hardware, although GPS is recognized.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
dickerhund, Maybe this could help us.

Install the cab attached. Run from program COMLogger, select as input port your TMC device port and as output port any free in your system. Press load and the logger driver will be loaded. (As in HyperGPS).

Then go to iGO, select the "Output" configured port as your TMC port.

If all goes well, in your root folder will be created a file called COMLogger.log.

A sample of what we should get:

COM Open 14:20:37

SOURCE: 24 47 50 47 53 56 2C 34 2C 31

DESTIN:

SOURCE: 2C 31 34 2C 30 35 2C 30 37 2C

SOURCE: 32 31 32 2C 2C 30 38 2C 30 35

SOURCE: 2C 30 36 34 2C 2C 30 39 2C 34

SOURCE: 30 2C 32 37 32 2C 2C 31 30 2C

SOURCE: 32 30 2C 31 37 35 2C 2A 37 46

SOURCE: 0D 0A 24 47 50 47 53 56 2C 34

SOURCE: 2C 32 2C 31 34 2C 31 32 2C 30

SOURCE: 39 2C 32 30 35 2C 2C 31 35 2C

SOURCE: 38 32 2C 30 33 36 2C 2C 31 37

SOURCE: 2C 31 37 2C 30 39 38 2C 2C 31

SOURCE: 38 2C 32 36 2C 33 30 39 2C 2A

SOURCE: 37 41 0D 0A 24 47 50 47 53 56

SOURCE: 2C 34 2C 33 2C 31 34 2C 32 31

COM Close 14:20:45
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jose-Ramon:
From you log file, I generate a file compatible with 'DecoRDS' ... and play the file with this software.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jose-Ramon:
In this case, verify that the map of software includes 'LTN: D-1' and the rate of RDS groups received.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dickerhund:
Here it is. There was a short glitch when I first detected the TMC hardware in IGO: IGO reported it lost the connection to the hardware a couple of times. But it found it again and worked well after that.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] faeArai:
The last offical R3 PDA update was at revision 8.3.2.73871.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dizzyraider:
Using iGO 8.3.2.93112 June 8 version. Whenever the frequency goes to 100.00 and above (whether it is done manually or autotune) the iGO would lose connection to hardware, but it seems to work fine when the frequency is below 100.00. Anyone else experiencing this?

I'm using the B6 on TouchPro (Fuze)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
Hi,

Yes, several persons including me are experiencing this. We already told Beemer about this :p
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] noise010:
Thanks Beemer, great work.

I have a problem.

I can't tune HyperGPS. I don't see the frequency number, ....> is shown in the frequency display while testing. Anyone got an solution?

The device is a touch pro 2 WWE.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
@noise010

Check with a reg editor the value of: HKLM/Drivers/HyperGPS/Frequency. If it's above 99900, change the value to 87500 and restart HyperGPS
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] noise010:
@L_o_k_i thanks for the quick reply. The value is 90000 i have changed it to 87500 but that doesn't matter.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
I didn't "see" you have a touch pro 2... :D

I don't think this can work right now with your device. See http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=534240, http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=521356. Maybe it will in a near future...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] noise010:
that's to bad, hope it will in the verry near future ;-).

Thanks again.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
This log seems great!

Thanks a lot. Today I'm having problems with a SAN cabinet, but I'll study it as soon as possible.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dickerhund:
I'm glad to be of service. :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Heart1010:
Anyone experience the following issue?

I use beta5 with igo8 (on touch hd) and when I recharge the phone in the car (with car cigar jack to mini usb port of touch hd) I get NO TMC working!

(it only works when i use my touch hd in accu mode -no charger connected-)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dizzyraider:
Thanks, I didn't know what key word to search on this one. Feel like a noob...thanks for the heads up.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
@Heart1010

I don't have this problem with my car charger. Are you using the usb cable from HTC? If so, try another one, or try another car charger. It's not HyperGPS fault.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
With the log I've found that GNS has a command for scan frequencies:

FF 79 06 01 79 means to scan from frequency 06

TMC device answer this inmediately: 3F 00 00 79 00 6F 6B 00 00 3F

Once found a station answer this one: 3F 00 00 66 09 01 55 00 00 3F : Have stopped on frequency 09 with result 01 55. If the result is 00 00 continues scanning automatically if not stops until another tunning command is received.

It answers 01 55 if it finds a station with or without RDS and/or TMC

It answers 00 00 if there is not a station. I think if has stopped but the signal is too low.

I've implemented this on HyperGPS and works, but unfortunately does not solve the 100% cpu usage under GNS.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
Hi Beemer,

Do you have the same behavior with Navigon?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
Yes, unfortunately, I do :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] angelofhope:
hypergps+iGo 8 + bad reception = problems ?

Hi, first of all congrats on this wonderful initiative, it's incredible usefull.

Now, a problem I found, somehow I seem to have very bad reception on my Touch Pro,maybe this causes my problems.

The first problem I had was that the tmc receiver wasn't found,this seemed to be solved by the adhustment in the system file.

Next,the tmc receiver still isn't always recognised and it seems to be lost from time to time, I think more often when I try to let Igo automatically search for stations.

Also very often I just can't search for a station in iGo,even manually,sometimes a soft reset works...

Any ideas about these problems? and how I might improve my reception perhaps? (most of the time I use an adapter with mic and in which I plug my headphones,also tried the standard earbuds/mic thing)

Thanks in advance
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] faeArai:
If the receiver tunes to 100MHz and above, there is a connection lost. Since iGO may remember it's last FM-station, that could explain why even a reset will not help.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
Beemer, I've logged the data between iGO and HyperGPS, using your comlogger.

When iGO send FF 46 xx 05 46, HyperGPS does not answer 3F 00 00 46 xx...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Chapell:
Igo 8 out of memory

Hey guys, recently installed beta 6. Igo 8.3 founds tmc like a charm, but if i go into map mode, it exits with out of memory error. I know it's not directly TMC issue, but anyone experienced this error?

Edit: Just checked, it happens without TMC driver active too. Some ROM issue, sorry.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Nakebod:
Near perfect TMC reception!

For everyone with a poor TMC signal quality, I have a possible solution.

Build your own FM Antenna for better reception

Indoors I never had a good quality TMC signal, loosing the signal every time. In the car it was impossible to get TMC for more then a few seconds, which made TMC useless for me.

Since I've build my own antenna, I can start iGo, and almost directly it has a TMC signal, without loosing it every time. And if it looses the signal, it recovers the signal quite fast.