yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] schmeichler:
I totally agree with you - have never done this myself as it was not necessary - just read it a couple of times.

As to your link - yeah thats on my list of 'things I want to try someday' ;)

So just now I tested GNS with MN7.3.1 myself and have the EXACT same result as you do!

First test (inside, no gps reception) it gave me station name - no tmc messages but I do not know if there were any...

From then on:

- it either jumps as you describe from 1 bar to full

- sticks at one bar

- sticks at full

- says no hw found

- never gives me the station name anymore just '...'

using gps+tmc - have not tried tmc alone yet

have tried:

- leaving hypergps client open or closing it

- all kinds of settings in Navigon, makes no difference (autotune / stick to station / stick to freq)

- went outside to get gps signal

On my way home later today I will try just letting it sit and see what happens... (will enable logging in HyperGPS)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] niwa2:
with beta8 TMC seems to be working with MN 7.3.4 on my Touch HD.

but i also have the problem that the signal strength bar in MN jumps between one bar an full reception about every second. but i get traffic messages.

i am using seperate GPS and TMC. gps on port 4 and tmc on port 9.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] schmeichler:
have my station-name back...

tried separating gps from tmc which made no difference - what fixed it for me was 'autotune'

NM now jumps from frequency to frequency (too fast comparing with PowerRadio how long rds info takes to show) and sticks at the one I would like to use.

Station name is now showing again, frequency jumping - still no TMC

my settings:

<TMC>

<RadioStationScan>0</RadioStationScan>

<AutoRecalculation>0</AutoRecalculation>

<PreferPay>0</PreferPay>

<TMCPort>9</TMCPort>

<TMCBaudrate>57600</TMCBaudrate>

<DRVPrefix>COM</DRVPrefix>

<Freq>1070</Freq>

</TMC>

<GPS>

<Type>1</Type>

<GPSPort>9</GPSPort>

<TMCPort />

<Baudrate>57600</Baudrate>

<DRVPrefix>COM</DRVPrefix>

<BluetoothDevice>

<Name />

<Address></Address>

</BluetoothDevice>

</GPS>​

I am also having some trouble with HGPS_Switch - it just won't start, not even give me a wait-cursor?!

Copied it to Navigon directory, created a working link to mobilenavigator.exe:

NavApp.lnk

47#"\INTERNER SPEICHER\NAVIGON\mobilenavigator.exe"​

What am I missing? Have not used this in the past as I never got past TestApp ;)

EDIT:

workin! while driving after a coupe of minutes TMC are received! :D GREAT WORK!!! (autotuning on and working)

HGPS_Switch problem remains
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
not every adapter working

for those who want to buy an adapter to use headphones (tmc) and charge their devices, i want to let you know that not every adapter works (at least for me).

i bought this one: http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Charger-A...8?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1249232785&sr=8-8

i can't recieve tmc data with it (and beta 8). with directly connected headphones to my polaris, everything is just fine.

k
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] meganefan:
hi,

I use this one:

http://cgi.ebay.de/HTC-2-in-1-Charging-Handsfree-Adapter-HTC-P3700-G1_W0QQitemZ200369160753QQcmdZViewItemQQptZHandy_Zubeh%C3%B6r?hash=item2ea6eec231&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

and it works well :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dickerhund:
I use this one too, and if I plug in the power supply (from laptop or directly from power plug) the signal is lost completely
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] krt.ecek:
I have the same probelm:mad:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] germanxdafan:
Why do you guys buy these things?

The original htc is way better and cheap, too

search for htc yc-a300

http://www.amazon.de/HTC-baugleiche-Converter-Kopfhörer-Freisprecheinrichtung/dp/B001ID9AHM
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] yetgul:
i have with beta8 tmc(pro) while the code ok, super beemer ´s

touch hd, igo8.3.2.97313
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] iseeka:
i have htc yc-a300 and works well
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
DONATORS

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Thanks to Alan E. for his donation. Thanks to you I plan to work on automatic tunning this week. I have one or two ideas about how to improve it on GNS mode :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Lifear:
Is there a way to use HyperGPS on a PNA Device like a Binatone Carrera X430? I would like to use MN7 on this device. MN7 dows not recognize the GNS Receiver build in the device. But iGO8 runs without any problems.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mille:
Thanks a lot for this great piece of software! With the current version iGo & Navigon working like a charm :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] miis:
Touch Pro 2 - B5 has response but B7&8 does not

Hi guys, I read many pages, but I dont know what else could I do so let me ask you please. On my Touch Pro 2 with original ROM I can listen to FM radio.

TCM does not - I started with beta5 so I tryed to update to B8 (then B7) and that higher version does not response on test page in HyperGPS - but B5 does.

I tryed uninstall, restarts, but it is still that way. Do you have any hint about this? thank you
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
@bilbo_b

Same answer as here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4246723&postcount=1484

If iGO can detect your GNS receiver, there must be something missing in your MN7 config!

@miis

For the moment HyperGPS does not work with Touch pro 2. As you can see here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=497977, flywhc is working on it
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rkelly:
hi there, first of all I want to say thanks for this great tool.... with IGO it works really great!

But i have a problem with ALK Copilot 7 live, no Traffic Messages will arrive on my Touch Diamond II! Within Copilot Settings the TMC Receiver will get connected on Com 9 and auto scan seams to find radio channels and also RDS information! Within IOG, after a few moments I receive TMC messages using HyperGPS so generally it seams to work!

Does anyone gets HyperGPS B8 working on Copilot 7 live?

I have configured Hypergps with GNS Protocol and TMC + GPS Data as discribed on the first page.

Any suggestions?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gongoscho:
Same problem!

Navigon MN7.4.3 not work! TMC detectet but signal strength to low, no radio fix, can´t receive messages :(

Navigon MN7.3.1 work good! TMC detect but the signal strength bar in MN jumps between one bar an full reception about every second. but i get too traffic messages :)

IMPORTANT, for TMC with Navigon you ned the gpstmc.dll in root folder of navigon!

@beemer: Can you please test it with Navigon MN7.4.3?

grEEtZ,

gongoscho
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] niwa2:
you probably mean MN 7.3.4. afaik MN 7.4 is not out (yet).

i am using MN 7.3.4 with HyperGPS Beta8 and it is working. it takes some time but after a while TMC messages appear.

i am not sure if autotune works correctly though. and the signal strength bar is jumping up and down about every second.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] skaterazn:
i don't have such file :confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nlesad:
Navigon 7.3

Hello first of all thanks for this wonderful app. I only have one problem with navigon and hypergps. When i use hypergps for both gps and tmc signal my navigon seems to stop responding (gps signal) from time to time during navigation. Is it possible to use com4 for gps port and com 9 for tmc port in navigon because when is use com4 for gps everything runs smoothly. I've done all possible config settings in usersettings.xml but i can not get them seperated. And i also have a little problem that not all frequenties can be found from time to time. When this happens hypergps will only find 3 frequenties (96,00 , 104,00 and 108,00). I use a htc touch pro.

many thx in advance

Grtz,

Peter
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
DONATORS

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Thanks to John P. and Frank G. I'm going to have a small holidays and my laptop will came with me thanks to your support ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dickerhund:
Hi Peter,

I have the same problem. However, for me the problem lies in the bad reception of the Radio. That only occurs if I use a 2-in-1 usb-adapter, which somehow interferes with the antenna if a power cord is plugged in.

If no power cord is plugged in, the tmc signal reception is very good and the gps connection in navigon is very stable.

You can try editing the navigon/settings/usersettings.xml directly like this:

<TMC>
<RadioStationScan>0</RadioStationScan>
<AutoRecalculation>0</AutoRecalculation>
<PreferPay>0</PreferPay>
<TMCPort>9</TMCPort>
<TMCBaudrate>57600</TMCBaudrate>
<DRVPrefix>COM</DRVPrefix>
<Freq>928</Freq>
</TMC>
<GPS>
<Type>2</Type>
<GPSPort>4</GPSPort>
<TMCPort />
<Baudrate>57600</Baudrate>
<DRVPrefix>COM</DRVPrefix>
<BluetoothDevice>
<Name />
<Address></Address>
</BluetoothDevice>
</GPS>

However, it shows correctly in the Navigon Settings dialog, but tmc is not recognized
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gongoscho:
HGPS_Switch for Navigon

@skaterazn & all:

Here is a "gpstmc.dll" from MN7.3.4 Build 494. Have fun!

screenshots of my own MN 7.4.3 Build 793 with TMC Premium (in Austria TMCplus) and TMC Pro and working autotune! :P

Hello beemer,

is it possible to edit the HGPS_Switch.exe for only load the TMC driver unload without start of iGo8.exe?

I will use this for Navigon! Please develop a HGPS_Switch for Navigon :rolleyes:

Thx,

grEEtZ

gongoscho
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
@gongoscho

Please read the opening post to know how to use HGPS_Switch.

@nlesad & dickerhund

Actually autotune does not work well. It's better to manually tune the frequency.

It would be best to tell MN7 to use the real GPS com port and use the com port created by HyperGPS for TMC, as dickerhund suggested:

GPS --> com4

TMC --> com9
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gongoscho:
Not work with Navigon, i use Navi-Loader and can start a PreLaunch (Launch program before execute navigon) or ExtLaunch (Launch program after exit navigon). I dont need this function in HGPS_Switch. Important

My autotune worke since MN 7.3.1 and HyperGPS beta8
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] niwa2:
are you using a PDA or PNA? because here in germany the newest version of MN for PDA (i am using a Touch HD) is MN 7.3.4 build 494. the all black skin kind of looks like a PNA version.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
Meanwhile, you can:

- copy the HGPS_Switch.exe file from \Program File\HyperGPS to Navi-Loader folder

- create a shortcut of Navi-Loader in the same folder

- rename this shortcut to NavApp

By running HGPS_Switch.exe (in Navi-Loader folder), it will launch Navi-Loader. That's the best you can have for now. :)

You are a lucky man! :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] doggy101:
car nav

Hi All,

I have navigon 7.4 running on my car nav it runs on Win CE 5.0

is it possible to use this great app on that?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
Same answer as here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4246723&postcount=1484
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gongoscho:
thx, i test it ;)

Real, this are my steps

Load TMC driver

start navigon

wait for tmc reciver detection

wait for incoming tmc messages

tmc messages received

tmc configuration is automatic

by lost signal, navigon search automatic another frequenz

when i exit and start navigon same ;) her is a video extra for you with this steps :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvTg9Sz0Jds

grEEtZ,

gongoscho
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dickerhund:
Auto-Tune works for me too, as far as I can tell.

Also, the splitting of GPS and TMC on different Com-ports (4 and 9) works now (after Hard-Reset). No idea why it didn't work before.

Indeed a great app beemer!! :cool:

Only slight problem now is the switching of reception bars in Navigon every second from 4 bars to 1 bar.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gongoscho:
And the function in navigon: hold radiostation (name) not work.

It is a AF (Alternative Frequency) problem!?

Not work! I have in Navigon - Root

HGPS_Switch.exe

MobileNavigator.exe (Navi-Loader)

NavApp.lnk (created in windows in Navigon - Root too MobileNavigator.exe)

By starting the HGPS_Switch i see nothing! :( Where is the problem?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
Verify that tapping NavApp.lnk Navigon start, then be sure that HGPS_Switch.exe is in the same folder than NavApp.lnk, and finally execute HGPS_Switch.exe
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
DONATORS

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Thanks to Florian G. for his donation. Working hard because I'm happy :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] voltiger:
Tested Beta8 on Diamond 2 (Vodafone Germany Rom, Navigon MN 7.3.1) and it's working perfectly. Thanks a lot, great work! :-)

Is it possible to implement a button or link to start the preferred navigation-app automaticly if the driver is loaded?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gongoscho:
I have a Error Message on start NavApp.lnk

I create the link with windows on storage card

*EDIT*

My NavApp.lnk - Link work. Created with Total Command, bur HGPS_Switch.exe not start NavApp (Navigon) :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nlesad:
Thx for the quick answer. it looks like its working now. Thats the only combination of settings i did not use :-(

grtz,

peter
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gongoscho:
Now Works! Thx ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] saigon66:
How can i create a link of HGPS_Switch.exe with my Igo8? Thnz
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
Thanks, it can be useful for others!

@soooalleine

Why don't you use HGPS_Switch??? That way you can start the nav app you want by activating HyperGPS driver before!

@saigon66

You don't have to create a link of HGPS_Switch!!! You have to create a link of your navigation app. See first post for a complete howto.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] doggy101:
ok thanks.....:(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wupperbayer:
Hm, somehow my device (Diamond2) won’t let me install the cab. It says (translated from German, so I don’t know if it’s the exact same wording in English) “Installation failed. The program couldn’t be installed because it doesn’t have needed system rights”.

Anyone know what went wrong? I saw that some other Diamond2 users had no problem at all installing HyperGPS, so what did I wrong?

I don’t know if the certificate is for this exact thing, but it didn’t help installing it either.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Capt_Caveman:
Works perfectly on my HTC Touch Pro and iGo Nav Software.

The only thing that is puzzling me is when I use the HGPS_Switch.exe the iGo software does not find the TMC driver ( It starts iGo automaticly ). When I start the TMC driver HGPSClient.exe and start iGo manually everything works fine.

Does anyone have an idea what is happening with the HGPS_Switch ????
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] iseeka:
doesnt worth for me either
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pietrucci:
same here too, HGPS_Switch gives no TMC driver.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zerobyte71:
Great ,Tank you ! ! !:D

Works fine on HTC Cruise (polaris)

SPECIAL TANK to BEEMER ! ! !:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MyRho:
sometimes it works - sometimes it doesn't work on my Polaris und IGo 8.3

When I plug in the htc yc-a300 adapter and the headphone it's ok but when I plugin the charging-cable the signal is lost immediately.

Do I have to run the test everytime I've re-booted the phone?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Alfatag:
Hi All!

First things first: Beemer, GREAT WORK!

Second: I live in Brazil, and here there is only one station that broadcasts TMC, using GNS protocol, but its locked to MIO GPS brand running Destinator with an especific software "atualization". The major problem is that this company dont offer any kind of signature service to other brands. Anyone know if is possible to decode those messages and get TMC working with Beemer project?

Sorry about the bad english, and thanks in advance!

Alfatag.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zerobyte71:
Sorry for my bad English, I'm Italian:D

Test using Car Charger: OK

Test using a PC usb Cable: OK

Test Using Standard Charger : OK

No re-test needed after reboot !

Sorry :o
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dickerhund:
I have the same problem with a 2-in-1 usb adapter. I ordered htc yc-a300 but it didn't arrive yet. Where did you get yours? I fear the ones you get on ebay (from Hong Kong mostly) are not really original and therefore not very well built.

Others on the forum mentioned already that the yc-a300 is working.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] niwa2:
same for me with MN7. seems like the driver is not completely loaded or not loaded at all before NavApp.ink is called.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] voltiger:
I had no problem during the install. After executing the .cab, WM6.1 installed HyperGPS and everything works fine. Do you have a VF-Rom? The certificate-cab was not needed for my install, what about yours?

@L_o_k_i:

Thanks for the hint, I've skipped this part of the manual and forgot to read it again, now everything works great :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ecky:
I have a XPERIA, Original Firmware, Navigon 7.3.4.

HyperGPS theemes to work fine. Thank you very much for your great work!

I have seperated gps port (4) and tmc port (9), in MN7 I selected GPS-Receiver with external TMC-Receiver.

My question is, in first post is described, that for Navigon the driver has to setup the data output to "GPS + TMC". But with seperated com ports and external TMC-Receiver in Navigon I think, I have to set data output to "TMC" only. Is this correct?

Best regards, ecky
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Forever022:
I made the program work on my ATT fuze (rafael)... using Igo 8.3x

But i search for all stations and cant find any... is there a list of the stations? I live in Northern California... thanks

Already google it and no results
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] phyco:
disappearing TMC signal

Its the same for me.

No matter which type of charger and splitter ( I bought 2 different types each) I use, the TMC signal disapperars immediately. It seems to be a HTC Problem, the Charger never has a really DC. So the "alternating Current overlays the TMC Signal. I'm still looking for a charger with real DC

phyco
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] niwa2:
i don't think that this is a problem. TMC comes over regular FM signals which are in the range of 76 - 108MHz.

switching power supplys usually operate at 1kHz switching frequency, some even higher but still in the kHz range. that means your power supply is switching way to slow to interfere with the fm signal.

my guess is that the headphones ground pin is connected to the ground of your power supply. this is great if you want to surpress noise you might recieve with your headphones. but in this case you want to use this "noise", because it really is a signal, fm radio in our case.

so you need to check if your power supplys ground is connected to your headphones. this is probably done in the 2 in 1 adapter.

if you break this connection you should be fine.

just my 2 cent
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
Same on my side.

My theory:

Seems like that many cables and chargers join the headphone ground that is the antenna with the power ground and this shortcircuits the antenna to ground: No signal.

The power ground is on PIN 5 of the connector and the antenna is on PIN 7.

PIN 1 to 5 are compatible with MiniUSB, PIN 6-12 are on the other side of the tab. Seems like the antenna is on PIN7 (MIC ground) and the ground of the headphones is on PIN 8. PIN7 and 8 can be shortcircuited, but not to PIN 5 or the reception will fail when a charger is connected.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dickerhund:
Hi,

I am not very good at electronics but I ripped the 2-in-1 adapter apart. Anyways, I can't make anything out of it, but maybe you could tell which wire to cut :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Oemie:
Is there already someone that got hyper to work with Mn 7.4.x..

With Mn7.3.x it works like a charm, just as with Igo..

If there is somebody that got it work what are your settings and files?:)

Thnx in advance

cheers
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] phyco:
Supplement

since I's reading the 2 answers (niwa2 and beemerTPPC "at this point a big thank you for such efforts" great job )to my guess, I dismanteled the Splitter (same as dickerhund) and cut the 2 black wires> and it worked a while. after that I didn't get a reception at all, even just with the earphones. So I softreset my Touch Diamond 1 and now I'm a little bit confused, because now it even works with my second (I bought 2 splitter, at this price!!! one just for tinkering with it) "Virgin - Splitter". Does anyone have a clue? Is it because of the Softreset?

By the way, I use the original HTC-carcharger(the cable is directly connected too the charger> not plugged with an USB-Plug

Phyco
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dickerhund:
Don't you need the black wire of the standard usb connector as a ground for charging?

As my (very little) understanding of electronics goes, you need a ground line somewhere in order to have a voltage drop?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] phyco:
You're right, but I tried at first to disconnect the shield and it didn't charge anymore. So this must be the ground for charging. I'm not sure if anything else is missing, but as I said before> the second one is working also without doing anything too it. that's what confuses me.

Phyco
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] niwa2:
you need the black wire labled 4 for charging.

i'd say cutting the 5 should do the trick, if there is no other hidden connection. but i am not 100% sure.

the shield can stay connected.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dickerhund:
YES!!

It works. Thank you very much!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wupperbayer:
VF-Rom? As I don’t know what this is I probably don’t have such a ROM ;) I never changed my ROM so I have the stock ROM, German version.

I first tried to install HyperGPS and got the aforementioned error that the program (HyperGPS) hadn’t the rights to be installed (that’s interesting, because I want it to install, it doesn’t have to have rights on its own I think). As this didn’t work, I installed the certificate with no problems, but HyperGPS won’t install anyway.

As I said before, I got a Diamond2 (Topaz) with stock ROM, and I read that some other people with Diamond2 didn’t have problems. I really don’t know what I am doing wrong…
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
@wupperbayer

Can you check if you have a file named hypergps.dll in your windows folder. If so, delete it then soft reset. Then try to install HyperGPS again.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] derstandard:
hi @all

i have a some wired issue.

I used HyperGPS several months ago with the Stock ROM on my blackstone.

After trying some ROMs i reinstalled HyperGPS B8 and now i have the problem that the testprogram stucks at 90.0 Mhz, when i push the scan buttons the frequency will not changed, the other wired thing is, that my FM-Radio don´t work too.

these issues seems to be rom independend, tried it with kwbrs TOPIX and MIRIs V 26.x , same behavior ;(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
DONATORS

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Thanks to Mathias A. for his donation. I'm going holidays for two weeks but I'll continue the project as soon as I came back!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] giggetto:
Hi , I have the same adapter. I soldered a 70 cm wire on the red one and it works as antena very well.