yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] leaskovski:
My understanding is that its not really a limitation, but it is more to do with the device using a different chipset, thus the current HTC version doesnt work with it. The Radio transmission thread is where you need to look. They need to use that thread to build a driver to work with this, but it looks like that isnt going to happen any time soon.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mentosan:
I think I have good news about receiving TMC on HD2. Today I received the following email:

Hello,

Thank you for using CoPilot Live sat nav on your HTC HD2.

We wanted to let you know about our latest software update that adds great new features and improvements, including integrated Live Local Search. You can download and install the update for FREE.

Our latest CoPilot Live software update for your HTC HD2 brings new features, enhancements and fixes including:

Free integrated Live Local Search:* helps you easily find the nearest product, service, brand, shop or just about anything you need - then let CoPilot Live guide you there

Improved timing of turn instructions

The ability to turn-off the 'Welcome to CoPilot' greeting at start-up

Optional Premium Live Services: access real-time Traffic and Fuel Prices directly from within CoPilot Live on your HTC HD2

Optional Text-to-Speech voice directions: receive detailed spoken turn instructions with road and street names pronounced in full

Download the CoPilot update now

Your HTC HD2 comes with a free 15 day, full featured, satellite navigation software trial - we hope that you've enjoyed using it.

Has your trial expired? There's no need to be lost without your CoPilot Live! Upgrade to a full version from just £26.99 today!

Buy now

CoPilot's Live Traffic and Live Fuel Price services can help you make better informed decisions while on the move. Get them both today for just £19.99.

With CoPilot Live's Premium Live Services* package you can:

Relax more. Avoid stressful delays with CoPilot Live’s real-time traffic service. With a constantly updated feed, it can warn you about problems on your route and help you avoid frustrating traffic jams.

Spend less. The new Fuel Price service in v8 can help you find the cheapest petrol station nearby or on-route. So whether you are running on empty or want to fill up without emptying your pocket, let CoPilot Live lead the way.

More Info | Buy at CoPilot Store

CoPilot Live uses the latest Text-To-Speech (TTS) technology to provide clear, spoken directions at each turn, pronouncing full street names. For example, 'Turn left onto Pall Mall'.

Buy at CoPilot Webstore

CoPilot Live's map region upgrades cover the whole of Europe, USA and Canada plus Australia and New Zealand. With detailed street maps, guidance in your own language and millions of POIs, you’ll be able to find the way without having to think about asking for directions. It's like having local knowledge everywhere.

Buy at CoPilot Webstore

So, I think HD2 has no limitations and more we can extract in one way the TMC module from CoPilot and use it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Heart1010:
Hmm, i don't think so mentosan ;)

I think CoPilot will use data connection (GPRS/UMTS) to fetch/get traffic data and not FM sender/station, won't it?!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] schmeichler:
second that - 'live traffic' for me also sounds like 'downloaded from the net'

BUT - actually - this kept me from buying a bt-traffic-box

Navigon hardly costs more than the bt-device I was going to buy - live traffic there is:

TMC, TMC Pro and 'floating car' info together - it is fast and does not drain extra power (assuming you are always connected anyway)

I remember my Diamond drainig more than I could charge ;)

All of them are going this direction - if I'm informed correctly cygic even passes 'live speedcam info' this way :eek:

sorry for ot - still watching this - still hope someone will break through
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NuShrike:
And I ask again why can't we have internet traffic download and then pretend to be a TMC device? Data is a lot more ubiquitous and less mystery than TMC hardware.

If only we can extract TMC from Google Maps.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] navimodus:
I know... but I really (!!!) search quite a time...

Dear folks.

Please be patient with me asking this.

Even after having done alot of searching in this thread (manually and with search-function) I haven´t found the solution for a problem a lot of people state... but I can´t find if they found the solution.

Somehow everybody stops complaining after a while as if they got private message or sth. At least I couldn´t find public answer.

Therefore I ask you to be patient with me asking the question again (might be the 100th time?):

I have the HTC Touch HD. WM 6.5 installed working flawless. I use iGO 8.3. Everything with TMC works VERY VERY FINE... (installed it yesterday) but... I can´t get Audio-Output to come out the speaker. No matter what I adjust with HGPSClient the Audio always goes to/through Headphone. So when I use iGO I´ve got to wear the headphone because otherwise I can´t hear anything.

What do I do wrong? Or what other/additional application do I need? I don´t want to wear headphones while using my iGO-Application. Can´t I get the speaker back working?

Looking forward to your kind support. Thank you.

EDIT|EDIT|EDIT

As I´m not able just to sit and wait, I tried to install one of the other HyperGPS-Versions.

The one I had installed was "HyperGPS_WM6_B5.cab". I deinstalled and deleted it from all folders it has copied itself in and installed "HyperGPS_WM6_HTC_V1.0.cab".

Believe it or not :-) now it works almost perfect - at least good enough for me to be happy... The sound now comes out of the headphone AND the speaker. That´s quite a good compromise and I can live with that as I usually will put a TMC-Antenna into my Headphone-Plugin.

Well. That wasn´t that hard...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jackleung:
No sure if my setup working for you since X1 use the 3.5mm jack for audio and fm antenna. I have a BT capable audio system in my car (U can use an A2DP adapter like Sony mw 600 if you have an Aux input) such that audio (Igo8 TTS and music) will route to my car's speaker by A2dp
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] navimodus:
Haven´t thought of connecting my PDA via BT to my car Audio. Sounds cool.

I already made iGO "talk" to me through the speaker of my PDA by installing another HGPS-file. If that proofs not to be loud enough the solution you proposed will be the best alternative! Thanks for that hint.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] manosandrea:
Anybody could make HGPS software compatible with OMNIA 1 i900 ???????

Thanks !!!!!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] freco:
No luck with Acer S200.

HGPS installed, RDS works but no TMC info. RTRDS...bla... bla only. IGO recognize TMC device but no TMC info recieved. :-(

I was excited today when I saw it working on a Omnia I8000.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] damikey:
Has anyone get this working in Vancouver, BC. Canada? Through HyperGPS Igo8 can receives TMC data but igo8 states that "TMC States Unknown". Signal strength was high. I did a scan and two stations report to output TMC signals (94.5 and 103.5) but no traffic icons shows up when I was in a traffic area.

Any confirmation would be appreciated
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kkof94:
dose this ver support HTC Daimond 2 ???

itry it dose not work properly each time i choise port of GPS Not accapted ..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] keremcoban:
what if beemercert.cab is not work ?

###################################################

2-Press the TMC button. The driver must load inmediatelly being shown at the top of the page. If an error pops up, you should install beemercert.cab. Some devices (or ROMs) needs the driver to be signed, others not. This driver is signed but as long as Verisign wants 400$ for a certificate I've done my own one, but it needs to install my certificate.

###################################################

I installed each needed files as explained. I got error after run the TMC "cannot load driver try instaling beemertcert.cab or another COM port".

I tried to install the beemertcert.cab file , it did not work! SO any recommendation ? How can I solve the beemertcert.cab problem?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] keremcoban:
Can you give me name more detail for the installation ? DLL file name so on...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
Support Rhodium??

Is there any news on when the Rhodium (Touch Pro2) will be fully supported? Or is this possible allready? Would be nice to get TMC information on my iGO8
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fuorigioco1981:
is there a solution for HD2 and HDmini yet guys?

thank you
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] david_salva:
I can help shape it to work properly on my D2 with IGO8 ... because I fail to run .... I hope that anyone can give me a solution
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rongara:
Anyone here who's using HyperGPS on HTC Polaris with GNS-Protocol?

Royaltek is working perfectly, but GNS isn't: No indicator in Test and Mobile Navigator shows poor reception.

Tried several ROMs and installed everything fresh. Don't know what else to try :(

EDIT: Guess it's working fine, but somehow my MN7 isn't up to date. Will update, so consider this as solved.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jerommeke:
No tmc when charging

I'm using iGO 8 on my Blackstone with the latest Mikenificent-ROM and trying to get TMC working. Fortunately, it does! Within seconds the traffic-messages come in, so that's nice.

But .. There's always a but. Once I connect my Blackstone to the charger (original HTC-one in the car), the signal's lost. Inside the house it works flawlessly with any usb-cable, but when in the car the signal's lost rightaway.

I tried it with a original HTC-splitter, but no luck too.

What can be the "problem"? The charging-method? The amount of Volts/Amperes?

I'm not that technically gifted, but I have "lots of patience" when trying to make this work. I got it working on my Raphael, but unfortunately it's broken.

Anyone with the golden hint? :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] peter63:
HD uses headphones as antenna, no USB charger. Try TMC with original headphones.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] horusgod:
Yes, the problem is to have power and headphones; to solve I had bought HTC YC-A300 that allow to connect both things in the car.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] renesan:
It works great with Glofiish X800 WM6.0 with actual ETEN HyperGPS V.1.0.1.

Installation:

Download HyperGPS_ETENV1.01.cab and special Eten gfmapi.dll.

Download from "What's new" the Eten Testfile.

Extract zip file diese and copy the GFMAPI.dll into Window folder of PPC.

Setiings:

Erase all bluetooth com ports and devices in Bluetooth settings

Internal GPS Com Port Value= 2 or 4 or 6 is set automatical by Eten Glofiish X800

Baud rate Value=38400

RdsTmc Com Port=9

RdsTmc Baud Rate=38400

Operation:

Start HyperGPS und set following:

COM Port: COM9

FM Band: CCIR 87.5-108 MHz

Data output: TMC for Igo8 or TMC+GPS for Navigon7

Sound output: Speaker

Mute radio: Mute

Log mode: Not Logged

Protocol: Royaltek for Igo and GNS for Navigon

Press TMC button to activate the TMC driver

Press Menu then Test to check ff you get any TMC signal data

Press Exit and start your Navigation program Igo or Navigon

Enter GPS and TMC settings.

On Igo select royaltek protocoll and com port 9 then press autosearch until you get found TMC first then goto GPS and select com 2 and baudrate 38400 and mark autodetection until GPS were found. After Igo have found GPS and TMC you could select a TMC channel. Go back to main menu and start the map and press GPS signal strengh in the left corner then goto page two and press TMC and GPS button and look if you get satellites and TMC messages. On Navigon went to options then press TMC button and then TMC settings and select right TMC channel. Now you should receive TMC messages. Go back and start the map and look if you get grey TMC and satellite sign in right corner. Both navigations works fast. Gongratulation! After finishing navigation you could open hyperGPS again and press TMC button to deactivate the driver.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] HARRY02:
My device is an HTC Diamond Touch 2, with Windows Mobile 6.5 Professional (5.2.21887), the latest version of HTC, with Manilla 2.5.20113030.0. Rom version 01/01/10.

The navigation software is Igo 8 8.3.2.124260.

I downloaded and installed HyperGPS_WM6_HTC_V1.0.Cab.

HGPS_Switch was installed according to the instructions.

I made the following observations:

1) In principle it works!

2) Switching on a second time, does not always go well. Then a soft rest is required.

3) It works only when the head set is

directly

connected to the PDA

4) I have a Veripart Ext USB splitter. As soon as I connect that between head set and PDA, TMC reception is broken; even before connecting power to that splitter.

Also, when I start the radio, after a soft reset - so totally apart from IGO 8 - , I notice a much weakened reception when I install that splitter between head set and the PDA. The radio finds e.g. 10 stations without splitter and only 3 with splitter. This is also true when I uninstall HGPS.

Now I have three questions:

1) When I uninstall HPGS, does the same situation exist as after a hard reset as far as drivers for the radio concerns? I ask this because I do not know whether the reception loss with the radio using the splitter occurred also earlier, before installing HGPS. I never used the splitter before.

2) Does somebody, with the

same configuration

as I have, got TMC running

in the car with a powered YC-A300 adapter

? Powered via a Veripart 12V DC to 5V DC converter.

3) Is HyperGPS_WM6_HTC_V1.0. the most suitable version for me?

Harry
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Keeviiin:
Hi,

I haven't read anything about TMC and the HD2 for a while in this thread. Does anybody know whether it will come one (soon) day?

This would be so awesome! Don't let us alone...! ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cybaer:
TMC via FM for T-Mobile MDA Vario V (HTC Touch Pro2)

I've some problems with using TMC from the FM-radio device. I've installed the HyperGPS and used the requirements from the testing section in the first thread/post. If I try to test the adjustments I receive only GPS-data ($GPGSA...) in the HPGSClient. The headphones are plugged and the FM-radio is on. Could it be that my mobile phone T-Mobile MDA Vario V (compareable with HTC Touch Pro2) is not supported?

HGPSClient: COM9, CCIR, TMC data, Royaltek

IGO8: 8.3.2.71348

Thanks for your advice in advance!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Duffyduff:
does anybody know if there are a news regarding HTC HD2 ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Medusar:
HyperGPS uses GFMAPI to receive the TMC data over RDS. When we check the GFMAPI topic we find:

In case you didn't know: Rhodium = TP2. You'll have to be patient I guess.

Just like those who have a Leo (HD2) and keep asking the same thing.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bluebat1001:
HyperGPS with HTC Touch Diamond2

I have the same config. Even I use MobileNavigator, but I know your problem.

The Y-Adapter allows you to get a signal, but you have to plug in a normal stereo cable as an 'antenna'. I only know the german name '3,5 mm Klinke'. Caused by the short cable of the Y-adapter you can also receive same signals, but not while driving an less stations.

You can also use this cable to connect your device to your car radio. :cool:

--bluebat1001
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Ig_man:
HTC-Mini und TMC

Hallo zusammen,

ich habe den HTC-HD-Mini und wüsste gerne welche hyper-GPS Version ich nehmen muss.

Geht es überhaupt beim mini??

Danke für Infos
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DaveShaw:
Hi, could you please post in English, or in with an English translation?

Forum Rules : http://xdaforums.com/announcement.php?f=263

Thanks

Dave
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Ig_man:
Oh sorry, I would say I have a HTC-HD-Mini and would like to know what version of hyperGPS I can use with it.

Is it possible at all receive TMC messages on this device with hyper GPS???
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] quetzalquatl:
Any chance for an update that will go with iGo Primo? Till now, it worked perfect with iGO 8 on my Xperia. Thanks again!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Golf_4711:
for hd mini

Hello Ig_man,

I've got the HTC HD and use the

HyperGPS_WM6_HTC_V1.0.cab file.

It should also function at your device (I hope).

regards

Golf
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] T4J:
works with primo on my htc diamond 2:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] goodmike:
HI What about Artemis. do you have work driver for us.:) thanks for your work
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] vaadiv:
Hi, can you write how can i get TMC with Primo on my HTC Touch Pro? It works perfect with iGO 8 on the touch pro. In the sys.txt:

[tmc]

source = "NMEA_GPSTMC_ROYALTEK"

port = "COM,6"

baud = 38400

Gpstmc.dll is inthe install directory.

what's the problem?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] BS3001:
Doesn't work unfortunately with Acer neoTouch S200...:(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ausi:
TMC for Primo on HD

Can you please post your Sys.txt which includes the TMC lines (& others)

Are there any other cabs/files to install apart from "HyperGPS_WM6_HTC_V1.0.cab file " for Primo TMC.

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] karaern:
any chance that cab to work with hd2?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mobilen:
Anybody tried to use it with a car charging (from the lighter) cable?

Does the interference completely mutes the signal or just the traffic information arrive slower?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mv0hra:
HTC Touch HD (blackstone) TMC issue resolved

Hope this helps someone.

The Problem I was facing;

I would initially receive TMC update in IGO, but then would loose it after a few seconds.

After reading through some of the posts on here, I realised that the problem was occurring after I plugged in the power cable.

I am not sure if anyone else has found this solution.

Here is what I have;

HTC Touch HD (Blackstone)

Installed IGO 8.3.4.117940

Installed HyperGPS_WM6_HTC_V1.0

Headphones

Power cable

Solution;

1) Plug in the Headphones and start HyperGPS. Make sure you are receiving TMC.

2) Plug in the Power cable, you should still have TMC.

3) Start IGO and hopefully it will keep connection for TMC.

If you disconnect the power cable it will still keep connection, however if you plug the power cable back you will not receive TMC and you will have to close IGO and start from step 1).

I am also facing a similar, but not exact, situation with HTC Diamond 2. If I find a solution I will let you know.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fwt:
TMC-Settings in SYS.TXT

[tmc]
port="COM,9"
baud=38400
source="royaltek"

Only instaled "...HTC_V1.0.cab"

Works fine on mine HD with Primo

my complete SYS.TXT

[device]
Type="ALIAS_TOUCH HD"
sdcard_dsk_num=7

[folders]
;app="\Speicherkarte\Primo"
app="\Storage Card\Primo"
has_secondary_root=0

[interface]
show_exit=1
resolution_dir="400_240"
screen_x=800
screen_y=480
VGA=1
extra_settings=1

[Rawdisplay]
HighRes = "1"
screen_x = 800
screen_y = 480
class = "landscape"

[gps]
port=4
baud=57600

[tmc]
port="COM,9"
baud=38400
source="royaltek"

[warning]
speedcam_warning="1"

[tts]
tts_buffer=131072
announce_exit_directions=1
tts_logics=3
priority="HIGH"
always_say_road_names=3
announce_street_name=1
skip_exit_numbers=0

[dynamiccompressor]
compressor=1
ratio=9
gain=9

[sound]
ding=0
queue_length=200
mute_os_key=1
pause_mp3_sooner=1

[debug]
sound_q_length=200
tts_min_ready_wav= 1
tts_getaway_time=100
tts_expected_engine_delay=400

[power]
powermgm_state="1"

[keyboard]
panel_numeric="Numbers"
panel_geo="Geocoord"
panel_alpha="German (QWERTZ)"

[map]
2dheadup=1
sieve_mode=0
3d_scale_carmodel=1
;3dcarsizemin=1000
;3dcarsizemax=2000
;3dcarsizemul=4000

[3d]
road_shield=1
road_box=1

[registry]
oninit1="HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\Timeouts\ACSuspendTimeout:DWORD:0"
oninit2="HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\Timeouts\BattSuspendTimeout:DWORD:0"
oninit3="HKCU\ControlPanel\BackLight\BatteryTimeout:DWORD:0"
oninit4="HKCU\ControlPanel\BackLight\ACTimeout:DWORD:0"
oninit5="HKCU\ControlPanel\BackLight\ACBrightNess:DWORD:10"
onexitreset1="HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\Timeouts\ACSuspendTimeout:DWORD"
onexitreset2="HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\Timeouts\BattSuspendTimeout:DWORD"
onexitreset3="HKCU\ControlPanel\BackLight\BatteryTimeout:DWORD"
onexitreset4="HKCU\ControlPanel\BackLight\ACTimeout:DWORD"
onexitreset5="HKCU\ControlPanel\BackLight\ACBrightNess:DWORD"

hope this helps

fwt
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Navazka:
Hello, is any chance to work in HTC HD2 (Leo)? Thanx.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mv0hra:
I had not tested my solution in the car and it seems that with the car charger it does not work, however with the home charger it works as described above.

If anyone has a solution I would be very grateful if you could let me know.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tgratzl:
Does anybody have a solution for HTC HD mini? Does it work?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
DONATIONS

=========

Thanks to Wolfgang V. for his donation.

I'm working on somthing that will revo this thread ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] quetzalquatl:
Got it to work with this sys add:

[tmc]

port="COM,9"

baud=38400

source="royaltek"

However, HGPS_Switch.exe still trigger nothing. I have to "manually" start the driver before Primo and shut it down after Primo. Guess we have to expect the goodies that beemerTPPC just announced above! Thanks for info to all!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jbm31:
Is your "revo" a working TMC on HD2 ? :rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dussel:
IDEA: TMC over Internet

Hi,

right now there is no chance to get TMC on the HD2 and i think this will not change in the next future. But i got an idea how to get TMC on ALL Windows Mobile Phones. My idea is that the TMC Data are free and we need only a Radio how collects the TMC Data. After the the TMC Data will be loaded on an Internetserver und HyperGPS can get every 30 Minutes the TMC Data from there.

What do you think about my idea??

Dussel
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] schmeichler:
I think you are by far not the 1st to have it ;) (read it many times...)

Should you get a service like this working you will probably earn quite some respect!

Have you thought this through? - I'm not a developer at all but here are mine reading TMC stuff for quite some time now:

you could probably really profit from beemers and flys work concerning feeding messages via com-port to navigation apps (although I think it would most probably have to be something completely new)

unless you find tmc messages online (I don't think so) you would have to rely on users from around the globe in countries and regions to provide tmc data to you! and how would they do this - an rds-fm-receiver hooked to a pc?

now make sure the mobile client only downloads messages in a certain radius of his current gps-posiiton...

tmc messages have validiy right (traffic jam stays present if the same message is received again)? so I don't think a check every 30 minutes would be sufficient

this all of the top of my head I am very sure the protocol itself as endless traps ready for you ;)

No offence - please do! Please also start a seperate thread if you do so... You wil surly find many users willing to support you / donate - especially since there are so many HD2-users out there (including myself) not able to get tmc off the radio anymore.

Personally (if I am ever in need of a navi-soft again) I think the future is live data collected from other vehicles navis or bought from mobile operators is the future.

Have fun - let me know if you start!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ahhl:
the thread is veryyy long....

sorry really need help here. been reading half way and lost my track.

in searching for tms transmitting station on the test page. what are we looking for indicating that particular station transmitting tms signal. noticed some station give full bar signal, some not. what are the response that we are looking for. tia
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dussel:
Thats sound great ;-) We wait for the Revolution..