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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] SOHKis:
you don't call directly from the program, here's an example of the setup i was speaking of.

open the OnDialer application, open the config menu & change the last line "Number to dial from (cell number)" to a landline (i use my office phone).

this way, when dial a # w/OneDialer, it opens a connection w/the landline # you just changed, and then will call whomever you dial, WITHOUT using the cell phone. it will connect your landline to the number you dial.

hope this is a little more clear, give it a try

someone gets it! thank you
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hgrimberg:
Is this application only usefull if you live in the US? I tried to get a google number and they responded me back saying that I don't live in the US and that the service was only available in the US.

Thank you.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
anyone else care to comment? I don't have any idea.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] cxi:
Yes, Google Voice is currently restricted to the US. I imagine that'll expand but it's not even general release yet!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] cxi:
I have a Verizon Touch Pro with an SSK ROM on it, which means it runs way faster than a stock TP. It's most noticeable when trying to delete a phone number that was manually entered. I'll hit the button 20 times to delete a ten digit number (unless I wait for it to visually delete before hitting the button again). It takes 18 seconds to launch OneDialer as well.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] reekotubbs:
Thank you for the info.

But you can also call your GV number and use the # 2 option to call someone without GV calling your "call from number".

I do know how to use GV, I was just looking for clarification to what the poster was stating.

I appreciate the comment.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] reekotubbs:
That is clear. Thanks SOHKis.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
It does take a long time to launch. During that time, it's logging you in to GV and gathering up the cookies and info to make a call. It's either 18 seconds at the start, or 25 seconds when you try to make your first call.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] reekotubbs:
This is what I thought SOHKis was talking about, dialing directly from your contact list, then OneDialer intercepting your call and calls your GV number pauses, dials 2, pauses, then dials the number you are attempting to call. Similar to GVDialer.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
I've got the intercept working....now I just have to figure out what number you dialed...but when I do, I won't be dialing GV, I'll just send the command over the data connection instead.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gardndj:
The square version works just fine on QVGA. A version optimized to fully fit the screen would be nice down the road but this will do for now. A couple cups of coffee are on the way.

For anyone interested, the guy over at the J2i.net blog has done some work on GV and has posted his code and solutions for devs to use. I hope it can help.

http://j2i.net/blogs/home/archive/2009/07/29/google-voice-and-windows-mobile.aspx

http://j2i.net/blogs/home/pages/details-of-interfacing-to-google-voice-part-0-of-n.aspx
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Moguledyouth:
I love this concept, but loading the contacts still takes forever even with the new version, it is jsut way to touchy trying to get a contact loaded and the scroll needs to be sped up quite a bit.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
I'm working on the intercept version right now. Basically snags your call when you dial it from your normal contacts and asks you what you want to do with it. This will only work if OneDialer is running though. Give me today and I'll have something that I think will please everyone...and SMS will be back too.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] SOHKis:
removed OEM until features have been added :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
I appreciate it, but don't do that yet! I've got 3 more features to put in and test before it's cooked. :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Shawner:
3 New features?? :eek: Please share!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
well....2 and putting SMS back.

1. Intercept of call from regular contacts. That's right....you'll be able to just use your own damn contacts now.

2. Auto-answer when you dial out. Not really important, but I want it in there.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Shawner:
All are great ideas! Keep up the VERY excellent work!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sahiljain22:
Hey - I did see some improvements in speed and also THANK YOU for adding the option to dial contacts.

Here are some minor suggestions you may consider -

1. In the sign-on page, the last number to dial back to should by default be the installer's cell phone number in most cases. Depending on the complexity of having this functionality, please consider including this sometime.

2. Rotating the phone into landscape mode still doesn't show some buttons. Can you consider adding a scrollbar, or maybe having rearranging buttons?

3. The first time I tried to use contacts, my phone froze for almost 2 minutes.

4. I still can't use the + on the keyboard. It always enters a zero.

5. Instead of an exit button on the right bottom, how about a contact button so that one can choose the contacts to dial?

6. Any chances you can integrate this into the built in dialer?

7. I use a ATT Fuze with keymapping which works everywhere else on the phone, except your app. You may want to rework on the way you accept text input ;)

Don't get bogged down by my suggestions buddy, I am perfectly happy even if you don't implement any of them :)

But onedialer has the potential of becoming a great app from a good app. hence the lengthy critique.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] WW3:
Thanks for the app, Can't wait for SMS to be back, they only reason i use this app is for the free SMS :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] simbadogg:
as far as SMS, is it going to be setup to auto update/notify when new SMS messages come in, or do you have to constantly refresh. i played w/ the android version and loved it because of the auto updating, and thats one of the reasons i hated the blackberry version (forced to manually refresh)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
I tell you what...it's going to be auto-update, but you probably won't like it. You know what pisses me off about the whole deal? It's slow. And the reason it's slow is because Android has these super-secret ninja backdoor api's that let this stuff work on a normal EDGE network on THEIR phones. I run this over 3G and it's slow as molasses without my backend server preprocessing everything before you get it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] timfp42:
thanks, m_drunk, for all the work on this app!

I've been following the thread for a couple of days and installed the new version today (never installed the previous version). I keep getting "Error dialing number - Network Error" when I attempt to dial. I've tried on both WiFi and ATT Media.Net and get the same result, always. The config looks fairly simple, so I'm pretty sure I haven't screwed that up. Has anyone else seen this or have any ideas?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
you put @gmail.com at the end of your username?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] timfp42:
I did initially, but when I got the error, that was the first thing I removed. I just added it back to try again, but no change. Should it be there?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
yeah. mine's there anyway. I dunno....some people tell me they have it, some tell me they don't. Usually when you get that error, it means that either your google voice account isn't set up right, or the number you're calling from isn't in the GV account yet.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
Update.....Setup version 2!

1. Incoming SMS is back, but it's SSSSSSLLLLLLLOOOWWWWWWWWWW. Still no notifications. I'm working on both of these things.

2. I added call intercept. If the program is running, and you dial with the default dialer, the program will intercept the call and ask if you want to dial it normal, use your Google Voice, or cancel. I hope you guys like this. It kinda solves the slow contacts thing as it allows you to use your own contacts in the phone. No use in trying to reinvent the wheel.

Donation link is on the front page right above the downloads.

Note: I haven't updated the square version yet.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
ok....the square update is done....

version 4
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] cxi:
The call intercept isn't working as expected on my setup. With OneDialer open when I dialed through SPB or with the Windows Mobile built in contacts it appeared to go through like a normal call without asking me anything. One time out of three I saw the call intercept screen but it popped up after the phone had already dialed and was ringing. Maybe it's my dialer?

Verizon Touch Pro, SPB Mobile Shell, Tachi Dialer, SSK 6.1 ROM
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DogSpots:
I'm having nearly the same experience. The call goes through and starts ringing and then the call intercept screen pops up. Even after the intercept pops up, the first call continues.

I have turned off or uninstalled all "extras" that might interfere with the dialer.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
hmmm.....ok.....I'll have another build tonight. this is the kind of testing I'm looking for!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
OneDialSetupv3.CAB posted. uses a different method to detect outgoing calls. let's see how this one works.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gardndj:
Suggestion - instead of "Exit as the right softkey menu, what about "Minimize"? Since OneDialer has to be running in order to utilize call intercept, that would make a little more sense.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
sure would. does intercept work for you?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kwill:
ok, loving the concept of the app, and for the most part it works. but, once question. when is the call intercept triggered? is it when i press the call button on my fuze to get to the dialer, or should it do it once I actually press "dial"? thanks much and urs is the first im trying since i got my confirmation for google voice yesterday:) oh, and the sms button and phone do take a min to bring up contacts which i'm sure i saw that you are already aware of. they actually come up if i just hit the x to minimize one dialer, then the built in contacts app will pop up.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
when you press dial...but it seems to be sporadic. I'm testing it with some folks privately right now to get it working 100%.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kwill:
no worries and can't wait to test the new version. im pretty excited about the whole google calling feature! so, if your app uses the data connection to dial out. what does idialer use if you don't mind me asking? im assuming it uses the regular voice connection but somehow doesn't use your minutes:confused:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
I have no idea. I think it has several options.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
ok...I'm stumped. Anyone on here have any experience coding TAPI or RIL in c# with their requisite api's and p/invokes? specifically to hang up a call....
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gardndj:
Couple observations:

1. Intercept works fine. The outgoing call is ended immediately, the option screen shows, and then I receive a call from Google Voice, exactly as expected. Call log shows an outgoing call to contact and an incoming call from GV #.

2. If I select "Dial Normally" the call goes through but it shows me as dialing an Unknown Number. Not a big deal, as the receiving end still shows my cell as calling, but I thought it was kind of strange. Call log shows an outgoing call to contact and an outgoing call to Unknown.

3. Is there any way we could have OneDialer start at boot? Right now I simply put a link in the \Windows\Startup\ folder, but is there any way it could be run in the background like a service so we don't have to worry about accidentaly closing it. I believe this is how gvDialer worked when I tried it.

4. Future suggestion for a 6.5 Titanium panel with sms and voicemail on it.

I believe iDialer can work both ways, either initiating a call over data and then ringing back to the phone or calling out through your GV number and entering the prompts and number for you (that's how gvDialer does it). However iDialer is simply a dialpad, so it doesn't integrate with your call log, voicecommand, etc. I also have a funny feeling that Google has no plan for creating an official winmo app. That leaves OneDialer, which so far is the first and only truely useful GV app for winmo. Keep up the good work.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Shawner:
I installed the newest version (v3, VGA) and noticed that SMS is not as slow as you say and not nearly as slow as it was in previous releases. For contacts, it loads just as it did in previous releases, but i've noticed that the finger scroll speed speed a bit slower.

Also, I looked at my setup and noticed that my username does not and never has included the @gmail.com yet the program works perfectly for me otherwise.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
and does the intercept work for you?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
OK....I need some people with some time to test pretty real time with me that have google talk. add me to your chat list, please. pm me for my gtalk name.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Shawner:
When I have @gmail.com appended to the end of my username I am able to use intercept, but only w/ OneDialer open...and I get called twice by my GV number

If I don't have @gmail.com appended to the end of my username then I am not able to use the intercept. It goes out my cell number.

I've also noticed an exceptional lag when loading the program.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
HUH?

Yeah...at the startup it's gathering all the codes and cookies it needs to work from there on out. It's either right there or the first time you dial. I elected for the startup.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Shawner:
I've updated my post for better understanding.

Makes sense.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
that makes 100% no sense. the username and whether or not it pops up correctly should have absolutely nothing to do with each other!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Shawner:
Either way, it is important to add the @gmail.com at the end as noted previously in this thread.

I will do some more testing just to verify these findings.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
Smaller resolutions in now!

Call intercept and QVGA resolutions have been implemented. I'm going to take the next day or two off. Post anything you have to say and I'll get back to you as I check messages.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ace10134:
Wow, QVGA, already!!! Great job, I'm gonna test it out! Then my Google Voice number might be going primetime, if all goes well :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ace10134:
I've gotta say...It's slow for dialing numbers. That's probably since it uses the data connection, and I only have Edge (not 3G).

I'm just gonna wait for my Touch Pro 2 (6 more days).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] faceless:
sweet, a QVGA version... time to mess around!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] isaacl:
Just to inform everyone...

I am now working with m_drunk on some aspects of the app.

We set up a Twitter account to try to make it easier to follow the updates.

You can follow us on Twitter here.

Thanks a lot to everyone for their feedback and help!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
damn it's gotten quiet in here. where'd everyone go?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ace10134:
They've been Twitterized.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
damn that bird!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] agentmikeyd:
Quote:

Originally Posted by reekotubbs

Can you clarify what you are stating. Do you mean if you set your cell phone as "office phone" in GV the application won't call your cell.

m_drunk, thanks for the quick response. Is there a way to call directly from the program like SOHKis stated?

you don't call directly from the program, here's an example of the setup i was speaking of.

open the OnDialer application, open the config menu & change the last line "Number to dial from (cell number)" to a landline (i use my office phone).

this way, when dial a # w/OneDialer, it opens a connection w/the landline # you just changed, and then will call whomever you dial, WITHOUT using the cell phone. it will connect your landline to the number you dial.

hope this is a little more clear, give it a try

The apps works well on my Sprint Diamond except for one thing I cant figure out:

when I call a phone number, it actually uses my cell phone app to dial my Google Voice number.

my understanding is that this app (unlike iDialer) would use my data plan and not my cell phone minutes at all? am i wrong on that concept?

i have reviewed all settings in the app and this thread, but cant figure out what is wrong...

thanks for any help!

ALSO: I tried the above with my office number -- but then I have to use my office handset to actually complete the call; my Diamond just initiated the call, but I cant actually speak over my Diamond...confused here
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
This isn't a VOIP app. It only uses the data to initiate the call. The thing is, it gets GV to call your phone back, accomplishing two things:

1. A call turns into incoming minutes. The point is to utilize a plan from your carrier that allows free incoming minutes. That way, you never spend one.

2. Number portability. This allows a single number to be used wherever you are.

And as a perk....it also does incoming and outgoing SMS. I'm reworking how the outgoing SMS works right now so you don't have to use my slow-ass contacts that are internal to the program. The next release will use your normal contacts to send SMS, and the app will just ask you if you want to use data to send your SMS or your carrier's SMS plan.

Hope this clears up the confusion.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] SOHKis:
sounds like it's working as it was designed...

this isn't a VOIP or voice over data app. it simply uses the data connection to initiate the call through GV to whatever number you have entered in the "call from (cell number)"
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gardndj:
When I select "Dial Normally" instead of "Dial with Google Voice", subsequent outgoing calls no longer give the option screen and continue to dial normally. I either have to restart OneDialer or soft-reset to return the call intercept function.

Also, is there anyway we could have an option to always dial with GV (no option screen) for those of us wishing to make the full conversion?

QVGA looks great by the way.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] isaacl:
Which phone do you have?

We have seen a similar issue on the Treo Pro.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] scottsimon1979:
ITs working well, except I am again finding it difficult to select either a contact or an SMS message in the scrolling list. The last release, I was able to select things...this release, its back to being almost impossible to select.

Still, this is the best GV app I've used on WinMo yet. Good job, and I will be following your tweets!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DerekZoolander:
would it be possible to get AppToDate support with this app?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] twe90kid:
what's the difference between the two different files?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gardndj:
AT&T Tilt/TYTN2/Kaiser (it's in the sig)

Seconded on AppToDate support.

OneDialSetupv12.CAB fits VGA/QVGA resolutions.

OneDialerSquarev12.CAB fits square (320x320) resolutions.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
next release.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
I've got an idea about the scrolly selection. I'm also going to speed that bad boy up quite a bit and make hotkeys work.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jj62mtp:
m_drunk, i have one quick suggestion for your wonderful program, is it possible to add an option to start One Dialer Minimized? i ask because i have added OneDialer to my startup and would like it to be already minimized when i reboot. thank you for your great work!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
I'll add it to the list.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
I'll send you a PM too, but would you like to test the interim beta version that fixes the subsequent dialing problem?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] WW3:
i read that it uses data for SMS, so if i cancel my texting plan, will i still be able to use this program to send and recive SMS using my google voice number? I will still have data plan.

And, m_Drunk really appreciate ur work here and once we get this SMS working, ill be sure to donate as running those servers can't be cheap.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
"once we get..."? it already works, and yes, you will be able to use this for sms. but I'd wait to cancel your SMS until I get some of the lag issues worked out on contacts and SMS. I would definitely appreciate your support. Next release...which should be lucky 13, will have a lot happier SMS experience.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mercado79:
Another angle I'm excited about is the possibility of calling a long distance number and using Google Voice's discounted rates. This is obviously not a big deal in the US since most plans have unlimited long distance, but now I'm able to call my sister in Canada without paying an arm and a leg (only 1 cent per minute).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] scottsimon1979:
FYI...if there is a"Beta tester list"...sign me up for it. I would love to help test this!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
pm was sent
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ethanhunteg:
I also would love to help beta test as well

I think i'm having the same problem as gardndj

I can only get onedialer to interrupt the first call I make after starting the program and making a call. I get the choice screen for how to make the call that first time. Whether or not I choose GV, normal or cancel, I do not get the call interrupt screen again until I close onedialer and reopen it.

I have tried uninstalling / reinstalling as well as uninstalling gvdialer as i thought it might be conflicting (even though gvdialer was disabled). I am now reflashing the touch pro with the newest version of mightrom6 and will try again and report back.

Thanks again m_drunk
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
PM sent for beta. I think this beta will fix your problem.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sid0101:
hey m_drunk I have a WQVGA Omnia, but I'd be willing to test another resolution like QVGA, since that resolution tends to work on the Omnia fairly well.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m_drunk:
pm sent to you for beta