yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[P3400 ROM Development] BesFen:
I love the Finger touch/scroll in WM 6.5, this is the new and usefull feature, but the speed is to slow compare with WM 6.1.

The memory management is not good like WM 6.1, althought I have 24Mb for the first boot, but after several time operated with exchange mail active, the memory will godown under 10Mb, and the performance is slow down too.

Yesterday I get 21042 SYS and XIP from Sumit, and as my experience it's the best WM 6.1 I ever use, very fast and stable, I have 31Mb for the first boot, with SPB shell 3, touchpal, SRS WOW, and exchange mail active, the memory still above 18Mb and the performance still same with free Ram 31Mb.

Anybody know, Which is the latest build of WM 6.1?
[P3400 ROM Development] zinzar:
Bes Fen :

This mean you change your mind and you will post 2nd version from your rom

and this is proof that WM6.1 is the best

no one untill now tell that wm6.5 is better only the view , and in device like we have ,we can not look for the view but we should look for the performance .

Krazy :

Thanks' for your support i will try it and i will tell you .
[P3400 ROM Development] ankit360:
hmm did you see my new kitchen ?

that kitchen contains latest build of wm 6.1 that is 21046 also check my new window phone 6.5 rom in windows phone 6.5 development thread
[P3400 ROM Development] BesFen:
Ofcourse Yes... :D :D, I download your kitchen yesterday, but the file is corrupt while downloading, I download it again now....

Thank you.
[P3400 ROM Development] BesFen:
Sumit already release 21042 ROM, the different his ROM and mine is only the additional app and package in the OEM Folder and I remove some module in the SYS folder. You can Dump his ROM and re build as you want.

I will not release any ROM for this time, Manila 2D is old style now...:D:D
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Ankit Yaar, the sys you have released mostly contains 21041 packages in SYS, are you sure its not a heavily patched sys? How is performance of IE on 21046?
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
About Memory Leaks

I am using krazy's latest Pro ROM (WM 6.5) for last 10-15 days, but I don't have this memory leak problem whatsoever. But I have disabled titanium, could titanium be the culprit? I am using homescreen plusplus (Clock UI). And when I close all apps, I get 45 to 55% free RAM.
[P3400 ROM Development] BesFen:
Titanium is not the reason of memory problen, I think WM 6.5 for device with 128 Mb of RAM or above, the performance very good in that device.

Try WM 6.1 build 21042, you will feel the different with wm 6.5.
[P3400 ROM Development] ankit360:
yes you r right i m using wm 6.5 with camera off i get 29mb of ram on boot , after browsing net from opera mobile , PIE , operamini and one hotmail account free memorey is 20-21
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
well the processes that eat most memory in 6.5 are gwes.exe (graphical windowing and event system), and shell32.exe. both of these are gui related and hence titanium can be one of the cause of mem leaks if not sololy. but i guess gwes.exe itself is also having memory leaks. another component is lockscreen, it takes 2 mb at startup, and this adds up in memory count of gwes.exe as lockscreen doesnt have its own executable.
[P3400 ROM Development] haree:
simple

hi

my reason is very simple ever since i started using 6.5 it has been a great experience i dont need to use the stylus i can just use my finger to make calls and i realy luv the finger scroll well im not a techi just a simple user and i feel it has become very very easy for me to use my phone after using 6.5

in fact i dont even touch the stylus now :D

and hey i think every one is here to use new tech on their gene so naturally people have kinda forgot the 6.1 like im sure most here have totally forgot Wm5 and 6 right :D:D

i luv WM6.5 its made my phone usage very easy and kind of the reason why i have not bought a new phone even though the itch to do so is really killing me :eek::D:D
[P3400 ROM Development] ankit360:
i don't think there is any memory leak iissue even in latest build of wm 6.1 you get 28 mb ram at statup and start decrease i think its cache program in memory

for example did you notice behavior of lookscreen first time after boot it will takes some time to lock phone but one it lock next time it lock phone faster

off topic

i saw new wp 6.5 to my friends they tell me "theme bahut accha hai" ( theme is very good )

now how i explain my friend this is not theme :p
[P3400 ROM Development] ankit360:
yes man wp 6.5 is more finger friendly

but gene screen is not finger friendly i can't use corners of screen with finger easily

eg. you can't press htc task maneger icon on taskbar easly with your thumb
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
But in 6.1 the decrease stops at around 21 MB. and On running hibernate.exe or some tool like that it comes again to upto 24 MB. But on 6.5 memory drops to 8-12 MB and doesnt comes back no matter what tool you use. So i think thats a memory leak not cache coz cache will be returned back to RAM when WM_HIBERNATE message is sent to all applications. Anyways, i think this will be fixed in final release.

Ya, you are right. After first run, lockscreen files remain in ram and it comes up faster on subsequent locks, thats what i am saying. It takes 2 MB memory for this and since lockscreen doesnt have its own exe and hence process, the memory is also appear to be taken by gwes.exe. So there is no way to know for us that the lockscreen leaks memory or not.

:D Let them be in delusion. They will remain happy and one day they will understand themselves that this is obliviously not a theme, and believe me, if they get to know this from someone other then you, atleast one of them will try to "educate" you about it :D It happened with me when Windows XP was released. One of my friend asked me where did i get this cool skin for Windows 2000, i was like :D :D :D

@Hari: Ya buddy, WIndows MObile 6.5 is great in finger friendliness, so i recommend you to hold your horses for a while since its being said that by end of 2009, 31 Windows Mobile 6.5 phones will be introduced in the market and the prices will fall for existing devices for sure. I sincerely hope that manufacturers will also release at least 2-3 affordable 6.5 phones too :)
[P3400 ROM Development] Lewelynn:
CHome in wm6.1

@Krazy

Quote:All .cpr's are the skin layout controllers for the respective parts of WinMo 6.5. The Start Manu, Titanium, Lockscreen, Incoming Calls, anything that has a CPR is all part of CHome. All all this stuff is is just a basic shell. WinMo 6.5 otherwise isn't anything new. It's safe to say if you find all the files and regiy it can be ported into 6.1 or even 6.0 as CHome first appeared in 6.0 on the T-Mobile Shadow as Neo.

(from thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=504324 post #3)

Sorry if this is stupid but i think it means that we can have CHome in wm6.1. Then we can have the speed of wm6.1 with the looks of 6.5, at least until RTM of wm6.5 is out.
[P3400 ROM Development] zinzar:
+1

Yes man , can any one tell about the possibility of this !

I think it will be very good for GENE , good looking with good performance
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Well may be its possible, i will look into it. But i think CHome has some dependency on IE 6 too. Lets see, what can be done :)
[P3400 ROM Development] ankit360:
FYI build 21232 is not beta build

next build is Rtm

i don't care about build even rtm also has bug and

new features and fix will added in newer build like wm 6.1
[P3400 ROM Development] zinzar:
After Sumit WM6.1 v2.5

I think we will leave WM6.5 for a while !!
[P3400 ROM Development] haree:
tough question

hi

i would say this is a little tough question to answer

im very comfy with sumits new 6.5(using it right now) but many are the same with sumits 6.1 and ankits new 6.5 & 6.1 , helgees & besfens Roms

But i can say this.......

im totally comfy with all of sumits ROMs and i have used all the ones he made for old gene why :confused: simple:D because he seems to give me all things i want in a ROM

i want one fully loaded and to my knowledge all of his are fully loaded:D:D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tjotji:
mods please delete this thread... I have started a new one with the correct title...:(:o

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=514351
[Off-topic] jmitr:
Guess there's not many trekkies on here.

Opening weekend is done and no comments on young James T Kirks nokia cell phone!!!! Seemed like a hollywood prop omnia rip.

VERY American though......24rth century and still no video calling:D
[Off-topic] -PiLoT-:
he only had nokia because of the drivers
[Off-topic] Brau0303:
looked like it was built in to the car to me.

Great Movie btw.

Cheers

BR
[Off-topic] Rudegar:
is it freaky that mr spock is played by sylar? :O
[Off-topic] galaxys:
must see for trek fans...great story line, rougher edged charators, & effects!
[Off-topic] -PiLoT-:
whats worse is no one who warches heroes will call him zachary. he will always be sylar
[Off-topic] strongmind:
great movie, i am the trekie!!
[Off-topic] leobox1:
are there borgs? i love borgs
[Off-topic] TheBrit:
No borgs but a great movie. Saw it today. I didn't take long for me to stop seeing Sylar and start seeing a young Spock. ;)
[Off-topic] the-equinoxe:
I missed the "clock sound" every time sylar/spock came into view..
[Off-topic] dgaud007:
Veredict:

The visual effects and sound were very good. I was most impressed with the acting of both the Kirk and Spock characters. I got the feeling at the end that they really went out of their way to incorporate the old Spock and made the plot extremely complicated by this: time-travel thru black holes, paradoxes, alternate timelines, etc. (this is Star Trek though...)

There were some script writing horrors like, when little Jim is being born the father asks "what is it a boy or a girl". Didn't they have sonograms in the 22nd century? And also how original was Eric Bana's character name, Nero?

Overall: It was entretaining with good acting and action.
[Off-topic] adesonic:
Not a bad film, but I thought the engine room (shot in some brewery I understand) was a real let down, actually spoiled the thing for me
[Off-topic] leobox1:
it is funny too !
[Off-topic] ckl_88:
Just saw this movie last week. While not a fan of the original TV series, I loved the movies that they (William Shatner et al) came out with starting from the original motion picture all the way up to the ST6. While watching this movie, I was impressed by the likeness of these new characters to the original. The funniest was Mr. Chekov with his accent... classic. The actor that played Bones did a pretty good job with his character too.

Overall, my impression after walking out of the theater is that I'm looking forward to the next one that comes out.
[Off-topic] haileyjonathan:
Hello

Its great movie to watch and like them too....
[Off-topic] jamzi:
Excellent movie, special effects melted my eyeballs!

Alot more funny bits than i expected too.

Had a bit of a tough time not thinking about Sylar when Spock was on screen!
[Off-topic] optional106:
Didn't you think that the bit when Bones was trying to sneak Kirk onto the Enterprise was a bit too comical ?

Maybe for the younger audience ?

It did make me laugh though.

I don't think any of the previous films relied on physical comedy like this.

Will this trend continue in the next films ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] zinphi03:
Hi, I'm searching a german rom for my ipaq 214. Can anyone dump me one? Simply make a clean boot first, start linux on flash and backup as described HERE. Please make sure that there aren't any bad blocks.

Thanks in advance.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lemonadesoda:
I've got a German ROM, but I looked at your link. The description is weak:

1./ Reboot the iPAQ and select option 2 from the bootloader menu. The iPAQ should appear to boot linux from the MMC card as normal.

2./ Log-in and start a root shell/terminal.

3./ Type 'cat /proc/mtd' and check that the output looks like the following:

Er, how do you reboot? How do you "log-in" and start a root shell terminal? How on earth do your "type" when the iPaq 214 doesnt have a keyboard?

The "instructions" seem to have a lot of assumptions in them, and are not a walkthrough for an "average 214" owner.

I'd like to help... but can't without instructions.
[G1 General] blobby:
Can anyone suggest a decent PDF reader? I have tried a couple of the apps from the market, but have not found one yet that utilises 'bookmarks'.

I use pdf docs that have thousands of pages (one of them has close to 10,000) and scrolling thru from the beginning each time is simply impossible - I need to be able to use the index/bookmark to select chapter/sub-chapter etc. Adobe Reader 2.0 on WinMo was best, anything similar?
[G1 General] supremeteam256:
i use the dudes build that has pdf viewer. haven't played with it that much so can't tell about bookmarks
[G1 General] saffyreuk:
Check out repligo reader, its not free but its top quality.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] TrueTenacity:
Is there a way to Permanently allow java apps to access internet?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] v70z650:
I have installed the freeware version of PocketMusic 5.2 on my XDA Serra (HTC Touch Pro/Raphael). It plays fine and you can skip forward and backwards through a track list. But as soon as it reaches the end of a track and moves to the next track the sound drops out / becomes very broken up.

I love the PocketMusic interface and sound quality and would therefore really like to fix this. Has anyone had or more importantly fixed this problem?

Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] virtualflesh:
Problem reproduced - LG Inite CT810

I have the exact same problem with PocketMusic on my LG Incite. This might be a problem with the free version? Haven't tried the purchased version. Also have not checked for latest patches to OS.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] virtualflesh:
Update on LG incite - still no change

Updated LG incite firmware.. then reinstalled just the PocketMusic application. The 2nd track still skips terribly when it reaches the end of the first track given no user interaction.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] atjong1:
Try the paid version (demo for 7 days). That one's v5.3.1 and doesn't seem to have the track change problem or the sound drop out problem. I've experienced these problems also on the 5.2 freeware edition (a.k.a. the 5.2 buggy edition).
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] brolly727:
Hi,

sorry am a noobie to the scene but I was wondering is it possible to Upgrade my HTC Touch Pro to Windows Mobile 6.5? I am currently running the Elite RC3 custom rom. Its very good but i have a few niggles with it and i like the 6.5 interface and i hear it is better on battery and runs faster.

So is it possible to upgrade from Windows Mobile 6.1 to 6.5?

Regards

'sim
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] brannutz:
Before you get flamed lemme just say.....

Yep.....
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] brolly727:
cheers brannutz I fink i will be upgrading tonight then :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dwmackay:
6.5 runs like a champ on my Fuze.

Good luck and have fun trying out all the ROMS. Plenty of great ones to choose from.

Doug M.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] marmota:
Does anyone know the official release date for win mo 6.5, I'm kinda' sick of Betas... :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Okstatefan:
I've only tried RRE 6.5, and it's about perfect for me. I wasn't sure about CHome at first, but I'll never go back to Manilla.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] marmota:
I've tried various ROMs until now, but I still think that the official ROM is the best... I did not have any problem with it... but I'd like to use win mo 6.5 on my Raphael...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Leechoonhwee:
Will there ever be one for TouchPro? So far I know 6.5 is only available for TP2 and Diamond2.... as an official upgrade.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tarunsid:
win mo 6.5 for htc

can any suggest were to get win mo 6.5 for htc touch and how to install , thankx
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ark666:
does this work on my wizard???

or on my diamond??
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] p51d007:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=448008

Read that.......best source of info on updating the GSM versions.

Runs great on my FUZE, and as another poster stated, took me a couple days to warm up to the Chome UI, but, now that I have, the last update (RRE's), I did the "no manilla" version.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] p51d007:
PLEASE!

There are countless posts for "noobs". Everyone is here to help out, but sometimes the frustration over answering the same questions 1,324 times gets old. There are sticky's at the top of EACH section, look for those.

I know there are at least 2 "noob" sticky's for flashing the roms for first timers. I'm not a vet at flashing, but I'm not a noob either, but, the sticky for first time rflashers is VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT and works exactly as advertised.

Please, if you want help, at least try to look for the answer. If you don't know how to do a search, or how to use this BBS forum, there are plenty of

help & FAQ's at the top of each board.

Have fun here, but please look before you leap :rolleyes:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ryandsouza:
Hi, I am also looking to upgrade to windows 6.5 Currently I am running 6.1 with Energy Rom2.0 How do you do the upgrade to 6.5

I know the procedure to flash a ROM, I guess the question is does flashing a rom for 6.5 automatically upgrade the OS as well?

What is the procedure for upgrading the OS?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] gmanfuzing:
there isn't one and how can you get sick of BETAS when they aren't beta.

the roms out there are made from the officially updated versions that winmo makes so if anything they are the most updated as possible roms.

there is no new procedure to upgrade the OS you just flash the 6.5 rom, there is no new set up no new settings for the first time, just flash like normal.:]
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ryandsouza:
Thanks so flashing a 6.5 ROM will also upgrade the OS from 6.1 to 6.5 right. Just want to make sure. I Do NOT want to brick my phone :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] TheDeadCPU:
Well, a ROM is what contains the OS so yes.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] stylez:
Just make sure you hard-spl'd before hand ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ryandsouza:
Done and DOne. thanks a lot for the replies guys, much appreciated. Flashed Energy Rom pHoenix :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] wiLLean:
sorry im new to the winodw mobile thing but where do i find the upgrade to 6.5 for touch pro 2 on sprint
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] wanwarlock:
since this is a 'n00b' thread, i'd like to ask some questions as well,

what's the difference between sense 2.1 & 2.5?

thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Confused Stu:
Top hit on Google for "Difference between Sense 2.1 and 2.5":

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=576205

:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hilaireg:
HTC never released an official version of WinMO 6.5 for the TouchPRO/Fuze.

The WinMO 6.5 Raphael ROM's (and kitchens) that are posted in this section of XDA are the work of fellow XDA members who have gone to great lengths to get a running WinMO 6.5 on the Raphael. As newer builds of WinMO 6.5 come available, these members update their ROM's (and kitchens) as traditionally, newer "release" build from HTC/MS typically address issues that have been discovered.

In short; until HTC decides to release an "official" WinMO 6.5 build for the Raphael, custom ROM's are the only option.

Cheers,
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Noodled24:
I Heard about this app via "Click" a late night BBC Tech show.

The application was seen running on a WM handset. The idea being that you can take a picture of a building / monument / piece of art etc. Via GPS the app gets a rough position on you, then searches for images that match the one you have just taken, along with text giving you info on the building/object. (for example taking a picture of Blackpool Tower would give you the complete history)... (scary when you think that in theory someone could take your picture in the street, and be linked to your facebook page)... but anyway, it sounded like quite a cool and fairly impressive app.

The show was on last saturday (9th may) and is still available on iPlayer should anyone want to have a look.

The app website is (i think) http://www.mobvis.org

However I cant see any download options, and it looks like the site hasnt been updated since august 08.

Does anyone have any more info on this app? Perhaps it has been discontinued or maybe the app hasnt been released yet? Anyone know?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] rctneil:
Hey,

I am attempting to get Remote Desktop working so I can access my pc from my device. I have forwarded the ports correctly using the start and end port as 3309 and entered in the following details on my phone but it will not connect:

My non-local ip

Pc username

pc password

and no luck.

Can anyone give me some help in getting this to work.

Thanks

Regards,

Neil
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] 2revup:
Can you RDP from another PC to your home PC?

Also have your tried Telneting to port 3309 to ensure you can actually hit it?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Imaginos:
It is port 3389 that you want. Also be sure that you have a password on your WinXP logon that you will select as an allowed user of Remote Desktop.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] layzieguy:
you may also need to configure ur firewall aswell (if u have any)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] markmensch:
Make sure you enabled Remote Desktop to begin with ;)

I can only get RD to work for me by using the IP addr instead of the machine name (of my desktop).
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] l3it3r:
I can use RDP to my XP machine with no issues, but my win7 machine (over 3G that is) will not work. I've adjusted my router and firewall settings, but still can't get it to work. I'm hoping that I come across some crazy hidden setting soon... anyone have success w/win 7?
[HTC Startrek] Tiger Shark:
I have a Cingular 3125. I'm changing jobs, and the new one does not allow camera phones. I don't use the camera, anyway. They say it's OK if the camera is present but disabled, but physically covering the lens is not (even though I think sandpaper would do a pretty good job of making it useless).

Is there an easy way to disable the camera (both camera button and the apps) that will survive a reset? Hopefully, something as simple as a registry and menu edit (OK, I could undo that, but they won't know that) or a CAB to load. Changing to another version of the ROM is an acceptible option, but I'm not really one for cooking my own ROM and I've not seen any 6.x ROMs for the 3100 (camera-less 3125) or ones that list no camera function.

Found some messages from folks who lost and wanted to regain the camera function but nothing the opposite or even a clue as to what unintentionally disabled the camera so I could do the same intentionally.
[HTC Startrek] XtreMe_G:
you can replace the Short_Camera.lnk (and maybe the Long_Camera.lnk) in the windows directory with a shortcut that points to another app. This would stop the camera button from starting the camera app, but it wont totally disable the camera, as you can still manually launch the camera app.

Your other option would be of course to physically disable the camera. Its just plugged in to you can remove the actual camera.
[HTC Startrek] Erofich:
just delete a registry key

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\Camera]

and reboot
[HTC Startrek] Tiger Shark:
Wouldn't let me delete the key, but changing the Dll REG_SZ to nothing or an illegal name seems to do it. Camera button now brings up "Pictures & Videos" and both the Video Recorder and Camera apps fail to work. I thought changing SensorType from 1 to 0 would do it, but it doesn't seem to have any effect.

Thanks for the speedy reply. Might have found it by myself, but wouldn't have known not to mess with the other Camera keys.
[HTC Startrek] Tiger Shark:
Hoping Erofich's solution is good enough for them. Don't want to go that far, but will if it's the only way to keep my precious 3125.