yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gongoscho:
HyperGPS with the PNA Navigon 7.4 Software?

Work HyperGPS with the PNA Navigon 7.4 Software?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] stokesie:
HyperGPS switch for igo8

hi there

hope youe dont mind beemer but ive edited the B5 cab so it installs hypergps switch for igo8

note

you still have to run hypergps first & setup your frequency.

then shutdown the program & run iGO8+TMC in start menu.

ive tested only on wm6.5
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Oemie:
YEP,that is the one!:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] swoop_xda:
blimey, I did the same thing last night and was hesitating to post (didn't want to cause any offence). anyway, I find it very useful and others will too, I believe.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] stokesie:
great minds eh swoop ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] peron:
It does not work for me. First it does not put an entry in the start menu, instead it is in the programs folder.

Then even starting it it will not load Igo8.

Running WM6.1 so that might be the prob.

I think it is a good idea as the instructions for the hypergps switch can be a bit daunting for some.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] derstandard:
works great @ Touch HD with Topix 2.2.1 and iGO 8.3.2.79297
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] stokesie:
sorry should have mention i tested on blackstone wm6.5 nrgz new rom
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] krt.ecek:
beemerTPPC

I have problem, in the Czech republic is tree station with TMC and IGO find in the fisrt station and read all message, don't find in other station.

Please solve this problem:cool::p
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mittaa:
Does this version work for non-english versions of windows (windows variable to folder "program files" or static path)?

Example in Danish version of windows "program files" is called "programmer" ...

Mittaa
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 69Morph69:
Yes indeed! It's a Blackstone... Thanks in advance! :cool:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] peron:
Let's try to summarize all the outstanding issues with this great program:

- TMC sensitivity not perfect, while driving Igo loses signal way to easily and has difficulty locking on some channels unless signal is very strong

- Low volume from speaker

- HyperGPS switch to be integrated better

Anything to add?

Note: the standard headphones seem to be worse for reception than any other headphone with usb-3.5mm converter.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Captain_Throwback:
Add: Signal Strength does not show in iGO (which might be part of the problem with the TMC sensitivity issue you noted)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Qukace:
Hi much more experienced Forum Members!

HGPS-Switch.exe is NOT working for me, I mean this program is NOT Switch the driver ON and OFF.

To start this program it stats the iGO8, nothing else. I've installed everything as the first post of this thread. I'm using the iGO8 not installed version from my Storage card. Is it a possible reason? :confused::confused:

Many thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Captain_Throwback:
Use FM tuner without headphones?

I found this app in the Raphael software forum. Maybe it would be useful to beemer and/or flywhc? This tool came from the Xperia and is for MSM72xx chipset devices.

I thought it was interesting that the FM radio could be activated without headphones, though I don't know how you'd get reception (or sound) without them.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Polluxus:
Doesn't matter hat you installed Igo to the storage card, I think most of us did. Did you configure hypergps first and made changes to your sys.txt?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] byballo:
TMC signal with HTC original charger for Diamond

Hi,

This is a very nice information.

Can you try if fm radio works with this charger too?

If you have problems with fm program to start, try to change value "Headset" to 1 in <Hkey_local_machine/System/State/Hardware> to run it and test radio signal.

Thanks.

One last thing: Do you know the reference or product code?

byballo
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rwertz14:
Does anyone know why I would be getting the message CA-TMC (no key) on iGo 8.3.80621? Or what it means?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] looby:
HTC Charger..

My original HTC charger does not act as an antenna.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cbolumar:
I have the original HTCAB1 model and it doesn't work like an antenna in polaris.

Please Charger model and PDA model that are working.

Thank's
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Qukace:
Thanks for your fast reply!

Only thing was the SOFT RESET after installation of the cab files.

Now it is working like a charm.:D

Many thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] seelion:
Hypergps with Tp2 stock german ROM NOT WORKING! ;( xmradio also dont work

hypergps starts but no data inside
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Oemie:
Charger: HTC Touch HD Car Charger CC C100 http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/dk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=173542

PDA: HTC Touch HD..

I had also bluetooth car kit activated but i don't think my bluetooth kit works as an antenna...

I tested it in my car while driving, maybe when i try here at home it won't work because of poor TMC reception, i don't know. I will try it and report here again..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jackleung:
Search please. U have to pay "clear channel" in USA.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] GJAman:
I have the same charger but on my HTV Touch Pro this doesn't work :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] KRiZ-R:
I also have that charger.

It only works when I connect it through a splitter and when the cable is stretched out instead of curled up. :confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Oemie:
So it must be the Touch HD, or me just being lucky, maybe it is my car;) i don't know...

just got home and tested again. Again TMC works like a charm with just charger..

Someone asked if FM radio is working to, i tested the radio and it doesn't work with just the charger.

It asks to put in earphone...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] byballo:
It was me,

Could you try if there is radio signal with charger?

How? In Diamond you'll be able to start radio app without headset if you change value "Headset" to 1 in <Hkey_local_machine/System/State/Hardware>, so in HD it would be the same.

When you have fm program working without headset, plug the charger and look the signal strenght.

Thank you.

byballo
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] powerbyte:
Hyper GPS and Amigo works on HTC Diamont

Hyper GPS and IGO Amigo Version: 8.4.2.81333 works on HTC Diamont ( Beta 5) with BSB 6.5 Black Version: K

Many thanks to the developer

Edit "sys.txt" to Amigo root

[rawdisplay]

screen_x=640

screen_y=480

[gps]

port="4"

baud="9600"

set_messages="1"

[tmc]

saved_config_available="1"

saved_config_classname="NMEA_GPSTMC_ROYALTEK"

saved_config_portname="COM"

saved_config_port="9"

saved_last_tuning_mode="0"

saved_last_frequency="958"

[debug]

skip_eula=1

[interface]

maxzoom2d=6000000

show_exit=1

[3d_config]

disable_roadsign_navigation_mode=0

[debug]

reserve_memory=1900000

cache=900000
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] peter_fuchs1:
Driver doesn't load

Hi @ all!

I have installed your dirver (with the cert.cab)

When I start the client, the driver won't load with

none COM-Port (1-9)!

What can I do?

Is this a problem with my firmware?

thx in advance.

peter
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] undercover1961:
Gns + tmc pro

Hello Beamer, how it looks with the protocol GNS. If it soon runs. And if there is one crack for IGO 8 for TMC Pro.

Ciao, Beamer the Hero
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
DONATORS

========

Thanks to Pekka H. for the donation. I've finished the Royaltek debugging and currently I'm working hard on GNS protocol thanks to your support.

GNS have a lot of problems, first one is the lack of information and logs from real devices. I've implemented all the commands and works in DecoRDS but iGO still have random problems.

Once got GNS I plan to release a new beta.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] degus:
Hi Beemer,

I would say thank you for your great work, too. It's working on my Touch HD really good.

May be I can help you with a log of a GNS TrafficBox FM9. I'm using it with Destinator, but there is no (build-in) way to write debug or log information. Do you know any app for logging Com-ports and writing it to file?

I would love to help you!

Cu

degus
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] giggetto:
If you need it, i can do a log from a combined gns + gps bluetooth antenna.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] flywhc:
I used and analyzed that program before. It is a testing tool for HTC FM API.

They were copied from HTC debug tools.

That thread was wrong - FMTuner is not for MSM72xx.

Surprised. does your TP2 have anything like FM Radio panel etc always running and opening FM Radio?

Can you extract FMradio app from your device?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
Thanks! that could be great.

You can use a port splitter like GPSgate. The 14 days trial version will be enought: http://franson.com/gpsgate/
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
Yes, please!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Oemie:
I can help with a log file. I have GNS TrafficBox FM9 in my car working with iGO, or maybe Navigon if you like. It runs on PPC with windows mobile 2003 SE.

You can tell me how i can make a log file on WM 2003 se, than i will do so:)

thnx for your great work again..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] giggetto:
The file attached is a log from a combo GPS + GNS antenna in communication with IGO. The GPS does not have a fix because I am in a building but the tmc was working and received almost 35 traffic advices.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mittaa:
Same her...

Original car charger "clm10d-050" DO NOT act as antenna! :(

Mittaa
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cbolumar:
Charging in polaris.

My original charger don't act like antenna but it is working very well with the 3 in 1 splitter , i use a 3,5 headset cable from Renfe (the headset you have free when you travel in train or bus) and the original charger and all works perfect.

I think , you don't need the original charger but any charger in one piece (not charger piece + synchronize cable) .
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] degus:
Hi Beemer,

here is a log file of gns-tmc data in germany.

Destinator has a tmc pro license. I hope that is not a problem.

cu

degus
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
@degus

Hi,

I don't think there's gns data in your log. There's only gps data. Take a look at giggetto log (Third post above yours). In his log there are strange characters surrounded by "?": that's gns data. :)

EDIT: @Beemer

If you're looking for a log, there's one on gpspassion from user camomille: http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17275&whichpage=2
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
Thanks all for the logs. Now I've to see what are the differences among the logs I get with HGPS and those. ;)

Giggetto: Could you do another log in Hexadecimal? I don't know if there is that option on GPSGate :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] degus:
Hi,

I have found a Sourceforge wiki with much details about TMC data (GNS & Royaltek)

http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/travelingsales/index.php?title=Plugin/TrafficMessageChannel#TMC_in_NMEA

@L_o_k_i: you were right... here is a correct log file.

cu

degus
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] giggetto:
Unfortunately GPSGate doesn't have that option. I think that the TMC informations are in that strange format because they are encrypted. This data was taken from a TMC pro station. I can try to do a log connecting to a free TMC station, but now I don't have the antenna. This evening I'll do a test.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Fitor:
Nice work! It works very good on my HTC TP.

With iGo and AmiGo I have changed sys.txt or sys.ini:

[tmc]

saved_config_available="1"

saved_config_classname="NMEA_GPSTMC_ROYALTEK"

saved_config_portname="COM"

saved_config_port="9"

saved_last_tuning_mode="1"

saved_last_frequency="946"

auto_tuning="1"

to get autotuning after restart the App.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
@JoseRamon

Why DecoRDS tries to tune the GNS receiver with commands like

FF 73 XX 05 73

instead

FF 46 Xx 78 46

This is screwing me ;)

Also, tunning manually (and supporting FF 73 XX 05 73 to do so) it works, but searching for TMC don't. The reason is that DecoRDS waits a fraction of a second before trying another frequency and doesn't wait at least a second for RDS to be received!!!!

Last one,

Once tuned the answer is 3F 00 00 46 XX 01 55 00 00 3F

The question is 01 55 What means? why sometimes is send 00 00, or even 01 00?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
No, simply it's binary format, and ascii view is not adecuate. Perhaps connecting to a splitted serial port a terminal...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] degus:
Hi Beemer,

look in my posted link above. But here again:

cu

degus
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TinTin:
german special characters omitted

minor bug? not sure if it was mentioned before (didn't read all 108 pages, sorry if it was reported already) and not sure if it's IGO or HGPSClient, but german "Umlauts" like äöü and ß are omitted in the text coming through TMC.

Not that important of course. Other than that everything appears to work perfectly fine so far on HTC Topaz with IGO8.

WONDERFUL JOB - THANK YOU SO MUCH!

[Edit]

Found out that the problem is =not= with HyperGPS. In my case it was a "faulty" german map causing this somehow, after installing the german map dated February 2009 the problem was gone

.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fwt:
Already a know ... "Bug" ;) http://xdaforums.com/search.php?searchid=24869530
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
degus, I knew that page, but I cannot find the sequence FF 73 XX 05 73 on it! tht's why I ask to the author of DecoRDS (and of the page you quote).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] giggetto:
@beemer

here is another log in hex format. I don't know if it is usefull for you, it is just a sequence of hexadecimal data.If you need it in another format, please suggest me a software that can do that.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Fitor:
Hi, for one year i was solving this bug by MioC710. I was partly successfull.

By the FontCreator a have changed font tahoma for Mio to display TMC message in CZ. If you are able to find out whitch kod is used in Germany for TMC (i think it could be UTM8) in CZ it is WIN1250, you can copy signs äöü and ß to respond address in font tahoma or/and tahomabd and these put in folder iGo.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
Thanks! it could be useful ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
DONATORS

=========

Thanks to Max B. for his donations. Things like this makes me not give up with GNS ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
EDIT: oups, already anwsered by degus!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fwt:
I don't understand much of this but i really appriciate all your work here (and beemers of course ... and all others ;))

If you meant this part of the Blog-Entry:

Then you are right ;)

0x00 | 0x00 if there is no transmitter

0x01 | 0x55 if there is a transmitter but no RDS-Data (i.e. because the signal is to low).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
@fwt

I edited my post (but I wasn't fast enough) because degus already answered Beemer's question (half of it in fact), but thanks anyway! ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fwt:
ok ... then i'll shut up again and whatch your progess :cool:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jerommeke:
Hi!

First of all, great job you guys working on the TMC-functionality! Using it with iGO on my Raphael with a splitter and I'm receiving TMC-updates.

Haven't been able to really try it on the road, since on my daily route there are no traffic jams normally.

One question though, I checked the box for automatic tuning TMC-messages, but it only goes from 76.8 to 90.0 mHz. I selected the world-choice in HyperGPS, because I live in Holland, and the radiostations I know broadcasting TMC-updates are on 102.3 and even on a higher frequence.

Did I do something wrong or is there a way to change it in sys.txt or system.ini or another file?

Thanks for the help and I hope to help here someday too :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
@Jerommeke

Are you using a custom rom? Did you try ccir 87.5-108MHz in HyperGPS?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jerommeke:
No I didn't, why didn't I come up with it myself? :D

I'll try it tomorrow, I have no antenna with me now. Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
Can you also check if you can tune from 87.5 to 108MHz with the FM radio app, and after that check with the test app (in HyperGPS) if you can tune these frequencies.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Oemie:
In HyperGPS just use CCIR 87,5-108. This works fine for me in Holland.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jerommeke:
I'll try it :)

OK, thanks :)

Another question, in iGO will it automatically avoid traffic jams when a TMC-update is on your route or will it ask you to take another road?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Captain_Throwback:
Depending on your version of iGO, you should have an option in the "Route Planning" Settings menu to automatically Re-route for TMC updates, Manually re-route, or you can disable re-routing for traffic altogether.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] michelD:
Thanks Captain_Throwback, but I don't find these options in my last version of iGO8 (v8.3.2.80621).

Could you please indicate the version(s) where these options are there.

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Oemie:
This option is in all versions, but the option only appears when you once had real TMC data coming in.. so first do that and then you can check the option agagin.

I am advising you to set it to manually )so can choose yourself' to reroute. i don´t know about other country´s but here in the Netherlands for instance, Qmusic and sometimes skyradio leave all the roadblocks in TMC in the evening, even if they are all gone;)...anyway for me that works real good.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jerommeke:
I don't know what I did wrong yesterday, but I'm not getting any TMC-signal anymore. Everything I try doesn't work at all.

It looks like I get no signal any more with HyperGPS, no green colour in the signal-strength bar. I uninstalled the program and even deleted iGO but no succes.

I don't know what went wrong but the FM-radio still receives radiostations, so the antenna-function still works.

HyperGPS in testmode gives following code:

$PSRF123,1,1*27

Anyone an idea what's wrong all at once?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
It happens to me once. Try to soft reset. No need to uninstall iGO next time. :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jerommeke:
I tried that multiple times, with no effect :confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
I'm running out of ideas...

Try with another headset, got outside to have a good radio reception...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jerommeke:
After uninstalling and reinstalling HyperGPS and some soft-resets it works again. Don't know exactly what happened before, but I'm not touching my Raphael again for a while ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cbolumar:
Delete the Hypergps label in the register.

After do SR and tray the test utility.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Christian72D:
This tool really works GREAT with my polaris, THANKS!

But i have a little hardware problem: i bought this adapter http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370208453832 and thought this should work, but i have no radio signal when i use this.

The pinout for the EMU hat no line for an antenne so i don´t know why it does not work.

Has anybod an idea or knows an adapter (with audio and charge function) which i can use?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TinTin:
Donation/re: minor bug

@beemerTPPC

Sure thing, great work you've done! Hope more people will donate.

@fitor, beemerTPPC

The problem is =not= with HyperGPS, right. In my case it was a "faulty" german map causing this somehow, after installing the german map dated February 2009 the problem was gone :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jerommeke:
I don't know how to solve your problem but I bought this item and it works perfect.

I even found out this morning that it works without a headset too, so you don't have to plug in any headset :)

Maybe you can try this one?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sandrinopi:
Hi all.

I just successfully :D made it work with my Xperia, a WM6.5 custom ROM and iGO8 ver 8.3.2.91972 (28may09).

Only one issue; the driver makes the phone extremely slow; iGO8 takes about 40 seconds to load or unload, while less than 10 seconds are needed without the TMC driver.

Does this happen to someone else ?

I didn't yet try to use it during navigation; is the program so slow during navigation also ?

Also, am I wrong or the headset jack has to be inserted during navigation ?

Many thanks to all

S
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jerommeke:
I tried iGO today with the TMC-receiver and it looks like there's a lag in navigation. I haven't experienced it before (when not using TMC), so there may be a delay in GPS-signal with TMC receiving?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] L_o_k_i:
@Jerommeke

- Did you manage to solve your frequency range problem (76.8-90.0MHz ---> 87.5-108MHz)?

- Concerning your delay problem, try this:

Select in HyperGPS data output=TMC data

In iGO set the GPS port on the real GPS port and not on the one you configured in HyperGPS
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jerommeke:
The frequency problem is solved indeed, I added "auto_tuning="1" in sys.txt, too so TMC searches itself.

I'll try your other solutions and report my findings here, thank you :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] undercover1961:
tmc premium igo amigo germany

look here and copy under amigo and softreset.have fun
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] undercover1961:
here is

look here and copy under amigo and softreset.have fun

http://uploaded.to/file/hnn11m
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] stefanx:
Ony $RTTMC,7 with HyperGPS Betas on Touch Diamond

Hi, with the beta versions of HyperGPS I only receive $RTTMC,7 messages no matter which frequency I'm trying (Germany). The alpha versions do work. I'm running it on a Touch Diamond, ROM Version 1.37.162.2.

Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] undercover1961:
Ony $RTTMC,7 with HyperGPS Betas on Touch Diamond

hallo stefanx , lösche alles von hypergps,dann soft reset,dann die beemer_cert installieren,dann die beta 5 instalieren,dann softreset.wenn du igoamigo hast dann die beiden dateien von hier http://uploaded.to/file/hnn11m

entpacken,in den amigo ordner kopieren und wieder einen softreset.dann solltest du sogar tmcpro haben.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] IBX1:
Status of the GNS protocol?

Hi Beemer,

could you please give us an update of the current state?

Can we expect a new beta until the weekend?

(I'm going on a long journey through 6 countries next week)

When it is running stable, I will send you another donation.

Nice job,

IBX1
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beemerTPPC:
DONATORS

=========

Thanks to Martin S.for his donation. I'm still working on gns and not threwing the towell thanks to users like you ;)

I've a Beta 6 ready with many small issue solved and the new API 1.3 working, but I want to add GNS support.

The problem is that GNS still doesn't work reliabily.

I cannot give a date, sorry. But be sure that I'm working hard on it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] stefanx:
I removed the HyperGPS alpha version. Checked the reigstry. Did a softreset. Installed the beta 5. Did a softreset. Still no luck.. still only seeing $RTTMC,7 messages.

I did several softresets. Still no change. I'm pretty sure, that the alpha version will give me the $RTTMC,8 messages.

Btw., if I remember right, the alpha version would show me the frequencies in the upper part of the screen. For the beta version, the field is just empty, or shows `..>`.

I read in some other post that somebody else had the same problem so I'm assuming something 'basic' must have changed between the alpha and the beta versions.