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[XPERIA X1 Accessories] anothadave:
i notice a few comments about sonys build quality...remember that this was built by HTC... i think sony was as dissappointed as we are and theyve given them the boot. rightly so.

i wonder if this is two "normal" batterys strapped together internally?? lol. it wouldnt be the first time a company has done this. from the thickness and the construction i wouldnt be surprised. and from the way the battery drains this seems to support this. that would explain why it drains at the same rate as a normal battery. youll probably get to near zero and then youll have many more hours before it runs out because then its draining the second battery. hopefully your update when youve completely drained the battery will shed more light on this.

whats different about the charging illumination? mine has always flashed three then a single one. and from what i can tell this is the standard. charging sequence.

thanks for the extensive review, it was very helpful.
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] vagelis:
I would not think that this in the case, as the stock battery is 1500mAh, and the Mugen is 3600mAh... the battery drain is always proportional to the applied load, so, given the extra capacity and the same load (the x1) you will have a longer runtime. The only issue is, the bios will not be able to 'read' the additional capacity, as it is not calibrated for it.

We expect overall performance of the battery to be somewhere in the middle, i.e. about 2/3 of the nominal 3600mAh capacity...as xda devs have always given us new things to play with, there even might be an updated battery.dll or calibration configuration we'd eventually be able to test with it.
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] poetryrocksalot:
Exactly! Mine flashes three at the same time, and then 1 flashes alone. However, the instruction says that the flashing pattern rotates, but don't. Although, prior to yesterday, I didn't even know the "specific" illumination pattern for charging was 3 lights, then 1 light, WITHOUT rotation.

And about the HTC build quality. I also thought that SE switched to Mobinova because of the bad HTC build quality. However, I am not looking forward to the X2 as much because Mobinnova has only made 1 phone, and the public opinions on this phone are so far VERY BAD.

I think SE should switch to Nokia and Nokia should switch to Windows Mobile. Otherwise, just stick with HTC and give them another chance.

So far, the battery meters of my phone all say 0% and the the phone is still on for 30 minutes now. Prior to this, when the phone was 10 and 5 percent, I got messages that the battery was low, and then very low... but I am really looking forward to XDA developing us a driver, but I bet those people who can develop these drivers need donations for a test battery.

Also, prior to when I said that the extended battery drains at the same rate as the OEM battery was because the extended battery works awkwardly. I think the battery will last longer, than I thought. Basically, the phone only recognizes about 50 to 75 percent of the battery's current charge. The remaining 50 to 25 percent aren't included in the battery meter.

I also think that if you want this phone to charge to 100%, you have to leave it charging for an extra hour after the battery meter reaches 100%...since I am sort of uncertain whether 100% is actually 50% to 75% or 100%

I think that the battery still charges after 100% but when it reaches 100% the battery meter stops counting, and when you drain the phone it will reach 0% because the remaining charge is not remembered by the device.

I am unsure of this. I could be wrong.
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] michaelthemage:
Perhaps the battery program Batti 2.4 can show the 'real' power?

I have the mugen 1800 and it also shows strange behavior with the power meter, like when the meter shows about 30% left.... a few minutes later phone dead, battery empty!
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] poetryrocksalot:
I am using WisBar advance, it has a battery meter, and it works EXACTLY the same as Batti Power indicator. I already told you...all of my battery meter shows the same results.

It has been about 2 hours of non stop Rock Music (Pocket Player) and the the phone still has enough juice to keep playing at 0 percent charge!!!!
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] michaelthemage:
Don't know that program. Can it show the juice too? Would be interesting if those batteries 'really' have 1800 or 3600.

And how is the battery's temp after 2 hours of music nonstop?
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] notjoker:
i also noticed the right side of the chrome edge left a little gap between it and the back cover. it must have been because of the many times i took off the battery cover.
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] poetryrocksalot:
It's been 3 hours now, and the music is still running, the battery is warm but not hot. Of course it's not like I am talking on the phone. A phone gets hot when you talk and press your cheeks, not when you play music.

Edit: It took like 5 non stop hours of non stop music to deplete itself after the zero percent mark. As for the amount of hours after the Zero percent: it doesn't matter, because the battery drains just as fast as the battery drains on the standard battery.
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] Ethermind:
holy sh!t !!!

i want that battery!

i think then i've buy it i will correct my battery.dll for lowPowerLevel message..
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] poetryrocksalot:
What sucks about the battery is that it's almost impossible to know if your battery power is low. However, after 5 hours I did finally get a third "battery very low" message.

EDIT: I do not know why the time on my messages don't count up to 5 hours, and also, the time is wrong, I live in California, how do I fix the time for this forum?
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] Ethermind:
i think UserCP\Edit Options\Time Zone
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] anothadave:
sorry i meant two mugen batterys...mugen make a 1800mah... so two of them would equal the 3600mah... would make sense they would use two of their own batterys strapped together to make the 3600mah superbattery. would be easier for them to manufacturer than starting from scratch.

the three lights flashing then a single is the standard charging light sequence. if youve got xperiatweek or illuminera they both list that sequence as the default. so sounds like your pattern is fine. maybe you just never noticed it before?

maybe some clever person can correct the battery status for the 3600mah. they managed to crack the 1% problem so im sure they can crack this one too :)
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] michaelthemage:
Interesting thought.... 'they might have strapped both of their 1800s together to make this 3600 battery'.

As for the warming up of the phone/battery, some people must have some kind of different phones, because I am now at the 6th phone and all of them got warm/hot just playing music! That is in my opinion one reason for the cracks that appear.

Therefore I bought this mugen 1800 to see if a higher capacity battery would lower the temp... which it appears is correct! I did not go for the 3600 as I think it looks ugly and makes the fine lines of the X1 go down the drain. Unless I go to the jungle and need double power, I would not get that. Looks like a very bad hump. And if I went to the jungle or desert for that matter, I would get the Solar Panel to have unlimited power available.... ;)

Still, my experience with the mugen 1800 is that it last SHORTER then stock... but will definately not get as warm/hot as the stock. So, persumably the 3600 should stay at a very low temp at all times.

Great post by the way!
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] poetryrocksalot:
3600 does not get hot when using MP3 player, however, I think the MP3 player on yours got hot because you were holding the phone. Your hand and cheek produces more heat than a phone battery ever will.
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] michaelthemage:
I am not holding a phone for 2 hours to listen to music. I use the bluetooth and the phone sits on table or somewhere.

Even when I make phone calls... not holding phone ... its 2009, I use bluetooth.

In any case, this phone -the Xperia X1i- gets warm/hot when it is u s e d, no matter what and how. So if yours stays cool (even with the stock battery) consider yourself lucky. And by the way, you might want to check if you have a crack under the volume button.... you should never get that if your phone won't heat up ;)

PS

As I stated in the other thread, the stock battery got over 50°C whereas the mugen 1800 stayed below 33°C. Per batti 2.4 and this after 1 hour of mp3 playback.
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] vagelis:
Ethermind,

I think that your driver is already doing its' magic...

I am using gtrab's 1% cab file that is incorporating your driver.

It's been over a day that I received the battery and fully charged it, now the battery indicator with *your* dll still reports that I have 41% of battery left, with moderate usage.

I know I would never have lasted through that with the standard battery, and so far the capacity 'appears' to be reported correctly with your dll and grab's icons.

Perhaps other users of this battery can install

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=512769

and report their results
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] poetryrocksalot:
Vagelis, should I install his battery? Does the battery meter work correctly if I install it? You are talking about the 3600 mAh right?
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] salmonsushi:
WTF? That's how it suppose to flash! Did you ever look at your phone with OEM battery when u r charging? BTW, why you do believe it's 3600 just because it's what "printed" on the battery? I have seen so many made in china USB thumbdrives that says 720 GB, but in reality it's only 256MB.
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] salmonsushi:
Well, not on my black Xperia? I dono how people treat their phones... but some suggest that this problem only occur for the first group of Xperias (those that people bought within a month of release date).

Silver Xperia seems to be aiming at female consumers. of course there will be guys that like silver and that's just my personal opinion
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] Ethermind:
Please look thru sktools for voltage (ex, 3956mV) every time you receive low power warning and report here. it info could help improve battery driver.
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] vagelis:
Yes I am talking about the 3600mAh battery.

I think you should try installing it.

See if you get a more accurate measurement of your battery's discharge and status.
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] poetryrocksalot:
Ethermind, do you want me to give you the information that I find from using SKTools?

I have installed it yesterday, I will test the charge measurement. BTW, I live in Riverside, maybe we can meet each other.
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] poetryrocksalot:
Yeah, what is a matter of opinion is just plain stupid, saying that it is aimed for the female market is just plain ignorant to the females.
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] vagelis:
I work in BH and live in Pas... come on down :)
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] poetryrocksalot:
Damn, Beverly hills? What's your job?

And it's "come on up" btw, 'cause I am south and you're north.
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] vagelis:
You're right, so come on up :)

Just a Greek IT geek... aren't we all here :D
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] vagelis:
@Ethermind and all others,

after almost a week of testing my conclusion is that the 1% dll though perfectly functional is *still* in need of recalibration if we want to properly indicate the capacity of the 3600 mAh Mugen

There have been at least 3 occasions where with 0% battery indication I was able to run wifi for an hour or so prior to a forced shutdown

The battery's great though, for anyone willing to take the rather expensive and bulky plunge:)
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] poetryrocksalot:
I am still seeing how the dll interacts with my battery.

It seems that it took quite awhile for the phone to realize that it has enough charge. Basically, the indicator said the battery was 0%. But it was still going. So I reset my phone, and once I reset, my battery said 50%. So I drained the battery to 0% AGAIN, and once it reached 0% it shut down because of critical low battery.

Now I am on my second test, to see if the battery capacity is measured correctly again.

Possibly the battery percentage "refreshes" once your device meets two required conditions: 1) battery meter is <0% and 2) you reset the Xperia at <0% charge.

And to an earlier post by Ethermind, I am not quite sure what you asked me to do with SKTools, but if you want me to give you information on the battery, you're going to have to tell me again, because I am not sure what you were saying.

Vagellis: I have a request, can you make the battery reach <0% and then reset at this point. I want to see if this "refreshes" the battery meter on your phone. So far my battery has only drained out twice, it lasts pretty long.
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] Evostance:
What a pile of junk. The X1 is already fat enough as it is.

Just learn to charge it every night like you should anyway.

Its not rocket science
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] poetryrocksalot:
Xperia doesn't last very long, I charge my device every night, read the topic about "light leakage", in there I posted a response in which I said the old battery sucks and that it didn't last long enough that I had to charge every night, and then it still doesn't last long enough.

UNDERSTANDING THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.

Ethermind: here is my first report... (that you asked me to do)
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] zkyevolved:
Is this still an issue? I'm thinking about getting the extended battery 3600 mah for my xperia, because I need a longer battery life. But I would need to know how much battery is left :( Did the 1% battery fix work? I see that no one has written in this post for 2 months! Wow.

Also, the 1800 mah is only 24 euros, while the 3600 is 70 euros. Is the 3600 worth it?

Thanks guys :)
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] poetryrocksalot:
zkyevolved,

1) The 1% battery driver does not work all the time... only 1 out of 10 times will it sync.

2) The battery is heavy and it will destroy the plastic and make the Xperia crack.

3) The battery cover becomes very lose once the plastic on your Xperia has cracked.

4) Don't get the 3600 battery. (I might have to update my review [-_-])

5) The battery lasts forever though.
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] zkyevolved:
So what route would you go with? I can't believe there are no other extended batteries out there! Seidio made really good ones, I used those for my blackberries all the time. This is the WORST phone for accessories... that's for sure. Lol.

OK, so... 1800? Or would you not even recommend that?
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] poetryrocksalot:
I recommend getting a spare Sony Ericsson 1500 MaH battery and carry it in your car. Or if you always have a backpack, carry it in the backpack. If you want to go on trips, then carry it with luggage/backpack.

I would be much happier going with that route.

I wouldn't buy compact batteries with extended MaH as I don't trust it. I believe it is bull****.

[According to someone, the original 1500 MAh last longer than Mugen's 1800 MAh]

Think about it, Sony Ericsson made the battery 1500 IN THAT SIZE BECAUSE THAT'S THE MAXIMUM SIZE THAT CAN BE DONE.

So don't EVER BUY standard size extended batteries. It's bull****.

Buy OEM or buy extended size batteries.

Unfortunately the one for X1 sucks in alot of aspects.
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] mr_5a:
No everyday usage. Too heavy, too big, too crappy.

I use it for outdoor performance with GPS: bike&skitouring.

It really lasts very long.

I have 1% dll. But that doesn't make difference. It shows until 1%left and then long,long further.

The problems under 1% are:

-you don't know the status

-notifications bothering (low, critical) and phone wake-up

-firmware tends to stop radios at some moment

Formatting - no idea how to make this correctly. Mugen says to go to minimum, but not to empty. As we have no status, this is impossible. It would be nice, if Mugen delivered pre-formated.

Peter
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] poetryrocksalot:
I have no problems with phone wake-up or radio stopping.

Formatting ... not sure what you mean.
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] mr_5a:
3x 12hours Empty->Full->Empty
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] poetryrocksalot:
Now I gotcha... I was wondering if Xperia is the only one with this issue?
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] mr_5a:
No.

During formatting you shouldn't go total empty.

With Xperia you have no chance to start charging shortly before total empty, because you miss status info.
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] deezy7:
Sorry, I know this is late, but I just got my SEX1 yesterday, and came across this post while looking for a battery meter.

This review was HILARIOUS!!!

I had a great time reading it lol!!

"3) keys hanging on waistline to they can jangle and annoy people while I am walking" and "for looking up chicks' skirts"

those lines were damn funny lol

thanks Poetry! I gotta get me one of these things now, just for the "mirror" capabilities lol
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] allenx1:
eww the added bulk!

btw wut u do is wrong! lying about not recieving an item! good thing i make sure i get delivery confirmation and stuff!
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] sekall12:
The heating of mobile phones doesn't have anything to do with your hands or cheeks.

Any device that has a current is heated by that current. And as long as many internal parts of your mobile consist of metal, there's an energy loss in a way of heat. Also your accu heats thru chemical processes.

Only a part of your mobile's energy flows into the display illumination, where also energy is split into heat and light.

What means... anytime your device is getting warm, it consumes a lot of battery power and it's almost equal to it's flowing current ²

Sorry... had to post that.

About those accus... I'm not sure how much they could differ but i have 2 made-in-china's that don't last very long. They constantly drop their power to maybe 30% where they rapidly lose their rest.

Every accu has its individual remaining capacity depending on its voltage. When the voltage drops, not every accu "behaves" the same way. Some drop their voltage faster than others whats your "never ending 0% power" and some drop slowly, what leads to my china-accus which last 2 min. after they hit 10%.
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] bgeorgi:
definately, and with this new battery the phone looks like a brick, i would definately sacrifice an hour or two of battery life to keep the good looks of the phone
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] paul c:
I just keep a spare 1500mah battery handy - no extra bulk on the phone, and the standard battery is very slim anyway.

So that is a supply of 3000mah, more or less guaranteed ;)
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] hwy7.fox:
Oops, double posted. Ha!
[XPERIA X1 Accessories] hwy7.fox:
I just recently purchased one of these, damn, this battery lasts two-three days, with constant internet 3G usage, texting all day, weather updates/email updates.

I do have to restart the phone in order for the battery percentage to show correctly. Not a biggie.

Maybe mine is updated? I got a version with the 'Sony Ericsson' Spelled correctly. The case fits fine, and aligned. No gap.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Wh00sher:
I`ve tried searching, but as the search only allows more than 3 character searches, I can`t search for X50 :( , I only get the message "Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms. " when searching for X50.

I have found some guides for the X50V, but that is a different ROM.

What I`m after is the WM5 A01 Rom, so I can upgrade my X50 from WM2003 to WM5, I can then flash that with the A02 ROM for the increased stability that one offers.

If there are any threads that already answer this, please, just put the link here and I`ll follow the info on the relevant thread.

I have tried searching before posting.

If there are any custom ROM`s that are better than the A02 one, I`d be grateful if someone could let me know?

Thanks in advance

Wh00sh.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Steven855:
Have you checked aximsite?There's a sticky there that deals with X50 series flashing.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] DIE HARKE:
Look at this.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Wh00sher:
I have, but there doesn`t appear to by any link to download the WM5 A01 ROM and bootloader for me to flash my X50 WM2003 A05 with ?

I`ll happily be corrected if you have a link to any !
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] walter67:
If you had to use another phone other than your BA, which htc would you choose for easy of rom upgrading and functionality that the BA has offered us?
[G1 Apps and Games] kyle2blue:
Hey guys,

I bought this app, which is great by the way, but I don't know how to create a new shortcut. I'm trying to make a shortcut to settings/wireless controls/mobile network/operator selection. But I don't know what to put in action, data and type.

Thanks for any help, I messaged ba and they said ask here, lol.
[Touch Pro CDMA] groffnuts:
I am sure there is an easy answer but searching through the archive forums I couldn't find a clear answer. How do I make a PNG file to be used in my touch pro? Every image I find on the internet is in a different format.
[Touch Pro CDMA] Sh0wNuF:
this might not be the perfect solution but I just use infranview(which is freeware) to convert the file...and sometimes you can just rename the file to .png and it will work
[Touch Pro CDMA] tsowen:
You can use a freeware called GIMP or Paint.NET and save file as .png
[Touch Pro CDMA] ronaldsdv:
the program I use to any image editing is called corel paint shop pro it works like a charm and you can find many useful videos online as well.​
[General Questions and Answers] porsche996:
Hi! I have a few questions. I'm planning to go windows mobile, currently i'm using symbian.

What is hardspl? What does it do? How would it affect your mobile?

Also, what is flashing? I encounter these words most of the time when reading the forum.
[General Questions and Answers] nir36:
Hard-SPL releases your device from using only branded ROMS given by whoever you bought the phone from (a ROM is generally the OS with additional software and settings). if you buy a device you should Hard-SPL it so you can flash new, customized ROMS from here (if you're buying an HTC).

flashing is the act of replacing your ROM/Radio ROM/SPL
[General Questions and Answers] porsche996:
ty

thanks a lot..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ADB100:
I am really struggling with this and am not sure what to try next. A while ago I dumped the official 5.2.19212 ROM and put this into Alex's kitchen. I have updated some of the OEM packages and added some registry tweaks as well as adding my own packages and auto-install stuff (the stuff that executes following a hard-reset).

It has worked for ages but seems to have 'gone bad'. Now following a re-flash the phone boots and seems to behave normally except for the application 'Microsoft Office Communicator Mobile 2007 R2'. This gets installed as part of the auto-install. From a soft-reset Communicator will initially run, however after opening IE it will usually lock up the device where the only option is to soft-reset it. If Communicator is not initially run after a soft-reset and other stuff is started, Live Messenger or IE for example then Communicator won't then even start, sometimes the hour-glass shows (or whatever you call the spinning circle?) for a few seconds and then nothing, other times the hour-glass shows indefinitely and then it locks up again.

I can't for the life of me think what the problem is but I assume it has to do with the kitchen. I thought it might be an issue with using G'Reloc.exe to relocate modules in the kitchen but I never really got any helpful responses to my post about G'Reloc.exe causing issues like this.

If anyone has any ideas as to what is happening or has happened to my kitchen I would be grateful.

Thanks

Andy
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ai6908:
All cooked ROM usually goes corrupt for me as well after a certain period of time. They will all work great initially, it might be for months, but then all of a sudden, you cant do anything with them!

I would suggest, update your kitchen to a more recent build and see if that solves the issue.