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[G1 Android Development] ei8htohms:
this is exactly what I keep asking myself

I can understand wanting to have (virtually) unlimited storage space available for apps, but it seems like the quest for free memory on the device has been fetishized without regard for any actual utility or advantage gained, and possibly even to the extent that performance may suffer (I'm speculating on that point, please correct me, but doesn't moving every bit of cache cause a little bit of lag here and there?).

Since I never seem to have (or want to have) more than 15 or 20 apps installed at any one time, I've yet to try the apps to SD mods and can't figure out a good reason to do so. Am I missing something?
[G1 Android Development] inpherno3:
its because i didnt want to pay an extra 70 dollars for the phone to give me 1gb of free space.... i would rather pay 10 for 4gb.
[G1 Android Development] santela:
Well, i just think everyone has different wants and needs. i have more than 10 games on my g1, and more than half are huge (3MB-5MB), so before i used app2sd, i can only keep 4 or 5 of those huge games, now i can hv them all n then some! isn't that great?

Besides, more apps r gonna come out, i'd hate deleting apps to make space for new ones.

As for performance wise, i think as long as you have more than 15MB, there isn't a noticeable difference.
[G1 Android Development] ei8htohms:
that makes a lot of sense

And when more cool games come out, I'll likely be encouraged to try the whole apps 2 SD mod myself. :)
[G1 Android Development] santela:
Totally recommended, won't have to worry about clearing your Browser history anymore (I hate doing that).
[G1 Android Development] bigzae:
After i put this in it read...cannot create ............. : file exists

so does that mean its already on my phone and if so y after flashing to JFs rom everytime i dl a new app it takes away space?
[G1 Android Development] SilentMobius:
If you don't has actual issues with /system or /data being full I would really not recommend doing this. The Dalvik cache is heavly used when apps are reloaded (app activation, after screen rotate, after swapping to another app) it needs to be as fast as it can be and microsd (even class 6) isn't that fast. I was unsure how slow the sdcard was so I did my own tests http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=495206 (And I was very wrong with my initial thoughts which is why I'm posting now)

Remember /system is just storage, free space there will not speed up your phone, for that you would need more free memory, or a speedy place to page to, which is similar to what the dalvik-cache is, its almost the same as what windows does when it runs out of pagefile, it pages out executables and re-reads then back out from the .exe/.dll's as they are needed.
[G1 Android Development] santela:
I think you needa re-do the app2sd part after u flash 1.5, then follow samysam05's codes.
[G1 Android Development] santela:
I'm not very technical... but I do kinda understand what you mean. so if i haven't experienced lags, can i keep it this way?
[G1 Android Development] rjlan82:
I have experienced lags with the apps2sd mod when i had both apps and data moved to sdcard. I eventurally got some weird corruption on the sdcard that caused my g1 to not boot, had to reformat the ext2 partition on the sdcard. Now I just have the apps on sdcard, and that frees up alot of space. With 120 apps/games, data and cache still on the phone, I have 11 MB free... and no terrible lags or risk of corruptions.
[G1 Android Development] nirvana2645:
small question dude.. are these commands meant for anyone? or just people that have their apps to their sd? im guessing thats why the first command doesnt work for me? it says "cp: cannot create directory '/system/sd/dalvik-cache' : Read-only file system"
[G1 Android Development] Seeknay747:
Just people who want APPS on their SD Card.

/system/sd/dalvik-cache is located on your SD Card. It wont be there if your not partitioned correctly, and didn't move your apps.
[G1 Android Development] anddep:
I had the same problem, but it can be fixed! u have the new 1.5 update installed... just do a factory wipe in the "sd and phone storage". most of ur apps with be gone, the paid apps will be on ur "my downloads" in market.

ur contacts has been sync with google on ur gmail account so u wont lose that.
[G1 Android Development] j00nior:
is this in the terminal app it must be but its not working for me
[G1 Android Development] bananajama:
I don't use app to sd card but am still experiencing this problem is there some command non app tp sdcard users can use to solve this problem?
[G1 Android Development] madunix:
=/

i havnt ordered a new sdcard yet, i still have the 1gb that came with my phone so cant do apps2sd yet, my #1 question is what is the best 8gb sdhc class 6 card to buy and where can i find the best price for it? best price i found was transcend for like $45. anyone else know another place? and also i just installed jf 1.5 and did a wipe just to start from scratch and it says 51mb free, any ideas?
[G1 Android Development] madunix:
says it's read only for me and that the directory cannot be created.. i don't have anything installed, i just installed jf 1.5 and did a wipe, i dont have apps2sd, im waiting for my sd card to come in the mail, is this only for ppl with apps2sd already?
[G1 Android Development] nirvana2645:
Yea dude just for apps to sd peeps, I'm on the same boat as u lol
[G1 Android Development] Jefpier:
it worked for me, from 13 mb jumped up to 72 MB... DAMN!
[G1 Android Development] samysam05:
Sorry for the wrong information. The command is supposed to be done using adb there's a guide to do it from terminal somewhere in the forum... and for those having the read error try this:

mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
[G1 Android Development] samysam05:
It's not my method i just found it somewhere on this forum. Glad i can help tho!:D
[G1 Android Development] joadchob:
is this process will work only for people who has app2sd ? cause i used dude 0.92 build before moving to jf 1.5 and i had 30Mb in my cell after i ran jf build i had 13Mb, and im not allocating my cache or app to my sd, it just normal, i tried to do it, but didnt work for me, so i left it, im wondering if this process that is mentioned works also for guys like me. Thanks
[G1 Android Development] savethechicken:
Everytime I have ran apps on my SDcard (8gb Class 6) I have always had trouble with it after I started to run my Dalvik data off the card. It would continously corrupt that partion on my sdcard. Dont know if this method would make it any better as you are not partitioning the card.

The good thing is that even with the lower memory the phone is running better at lower memory (if that makes sense)
[G1 Android Development] n19htmare:
I also don't see the need to not use the onboard memory at all.

That's why I've not moved my cache to SD. What sam posted was simply the move of cache to SD.

I simply kept the cache on the phone memory because it's something that maybe accessed often and I wouldn't wanna slow that down by moving to SD card. Once it's full, I believe the G1 automatically deletes it.

I only have my app and app-private on SD and all my caches on phone.

Exactly! I've had problems as well when I've moved the cache to SD. Thus, I think it's best to keep the cache on the phone memory and link the apps.

I really don't see the point of keeping the phone memory at 70MB... put the damn thing to use.
[G1 Android Development] DOHCtor:
What's the command to revert the cache back from sd to phone? I wouldn't mind having 52mb free space again lol
[G1 Android Development] isolated_epidemic:
Thanks samysam05

Thanks samysam05 I did what you recommended and went from 49 to 71 megs free, thanks a bunch!
[G1 Android Development] jsapp:
$45...ouch. Go to Newegg, they have class 6 8 gb for less than $20 shipped.
[G1 Android Development] samysam05:
That never happened to me and i'm not on a class 6, but i understand things are different for everyone. I have over 145 apps and my phone runs very smooth. My phone did crash when i try to move the data/data.... but for others it runs well.:D:D
[G1 Android Development] shaneaus:
I have everything on my sd: all caches (including dalvik-cache), all apps, and all data on my ext2 partition of the sd card.

NO problems and it runs really smooth without any crashes or force closes (that are not app specific).

I just wonder how much of the problems people are having with this has to do with their memory card or the code execution.
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] loyjwe:
sorry guys, there is so many thread for xperia so i also dunno 1 2 post where. im a new HWZ user and using xperia for less den a week. need few advices. pls help

1. on the sound notification, i notice that for New Text Message Received, there is a checkbox "Repeat" under the Play Sound option. but it cannot be ticked. how come? how can i make it possible to repeat the SMS alert? coz sometimes by ringing once i may not notice it.

2. just now after i charged the phone, i notice that everytime my phone goes into sleep mode, whenever i press any button to wake it up, the screen will "blink" once before appearing. meaning when i press a button, the screen comes alive but blackout again for a split second before the screen really stay there. whats wrong?

updated:

i installed the growing panel and the activex and some java games. but having a few more questions

3. java games is different from the 4 games that comes with the phone? coz i find it is playable using xperia but doesnt seem to be really compatible like the 4 games that come with it.

4. i installed the touchpal and xperia tweak and both work fine. however for panels, i install windowslive, spbmobileshell, photoslideshow and growing panel. all installed but only photoslideshow can be used for panels. how do i make the windowslive and spbmobileshell panel work? how to choose this 2 as panels?

5. how come i install growing panel and activex plugin but both file cannot be installed. a popup will say need run the application 1st but i cant do anything to it.

thanks all. please advice me. thanks
[XPERIA X1 General] loyjwe:
sorry guys, there is so many thread for xperia so i also dunno 1 2 post where. im a new HWZ user and using xperia for less den a week. need few advices. pls help

1. on the sound notification, i notice that for New Text Message Received, there is a checkbox "Repeat" under the Play Sound option. but it cannot be ticked. how come? how can i make it possible to repeat the SMS alert? coz sometimes by ringing once i may not notice it.

2. just now after i charged the phone, i notice that everytime my phone goes into sleep mode, whenever i press any button to wake it up, the screen will "blink" once before appearing. meaning when i press a button, the screen comes alive but blackout again for a split second before the screen really stay there. whats wrong?

updated:

i installed the growing panel and the activex and some java games. but having a few more questions

3. java games is different from the 4 games that comes with the phone? coz i find it is playable using xperia but doesnt seem to be really compatible like the 4 games that come with it.

4. i installed the touchpal and xperia tweak and both work fine. however for panels, i install windowslive, spbmobileshell, photoslideshow and growing panel. all installed but only photoslideshow can be used for panels. how do i make the windowslive and spbmobileshell panel work? how to choose this 2 as panels?

5. how come i install growing panel and activex plugin but both file cannot be installed. a popup will say need run the application 1st but i cant do anything to it.

thanks all. please advice me. thanks
[XPERIA X1 General] Stevo8227:
1. Don't know. Don't think it's possible, perhaps with som register tweak.

2. Don't know. Mine just blinks on direct, no black out or so. Tried to just restart the device?

3. Yes java games is different from the 4 games that comes with the phone. The java games are running within an java application in the phone while the 4 games that is preinstalled and as far as I know other games that is programmed directly for windows mobile are running more like free independet application like any other winmo program.

4. Just to check, you do know how to put the panels in the panel manager? Because they don't pop up there by them selves, you have to put them there. You enter the setup for that with the bottom right icon in the panel manager.

Other than that I don't know if the growing panel and activex plugin might have messed up the panel manager and here we come to question number 5...

5. The growing panel and activex plugin are not official yet and just beta versions. Therefore the results may not be so good with them. I have tried them, they worked fine for a couple of hours and then the phone just started to hang and get slower. Uninstalled them and it was fine again. I do belive for example that they are depending on the new panel manager that will come along with them in the next official ROM.
[XPERIA X1 General] loyjwe:
1. oh. i download the xperia tweak also cannot find any clue

2. think the phone is fine after restarting. thanks

3. so if i want to download games like the 4 preinstalled, i should look for winmo games and not java issit?

4. means i need transfer the .cab file from my computer to the panel manager folder then install from there issit? sorry coz i not really catch what u mean

5. means it may be launching officially with the new ROM coming soon?

thanks for the info given. :)
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
3 - Yes

4 - No. You can install them from anywhere. After you install them click on the panels button.

When you click your panels button, you may choose between different panels right? There are nine slots for panels there. In the bottom right corner, just below the last row of panels, there is a round icon with 9 little rectangles and a rench. Click it. The panels should turn around. Tap the suitcase icon on the panel that you wish to replace. The panel should pop out and get bigger. Tap the icon with the two rectangles.

Now you are in the panel management menu. From there you can choose the different panels, that you have already installed.

5 - Yes

And a piece of advise. Use the search function of this ofrum. 99% of all question that you may ask, have already been answered here. :) Do a lot of random reading too. Read the threads in this ofrum. Lots and lots of them. :D

Cheers.
[XPERIA X1 General] loyjwe:
4. i installed the panels and tried the way u mentioned. but only the photoslide panel is shown in the list of panel. the windowslive and spbmobile both not shown.

thanks for ur help. i just found this forum through google so is still trying to browse thru the threads. thanks for ur advice
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ReznikAkime:
Yes, that's exactly what I'm looking for. I lost my BT headset I used for online gaming, yet I have a perfectly fine Fuze that works well with my Plantronics headset that I use for my xbox.

Is it possible to use the fuze as a rx/tx passthrough unit for a wired headset?

Basically:

Wired headset > Fuze with Bluetooth turned on > Fuze synched to computer with bluetooth > Chatting with wired headset through the Fuze's bluetooth in online games.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] darfri:
Not odd at all

I would also love thing like this
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Rudegar:
I think if the bluetooth software on the computer

support audio gateway

and the x1 show up as supporting audio gateway bluetooth profile

when one bound it

then one can pick the x1 as soundcard to be used

in audio settings in control panel in pc windows

and it should work
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] darfri:
Well I am using Bluesoleil on my laptop with Bluetooth v1.2 which actually connects well even to my A2DP dongle with full stereo sound even if it is not v2. But when I browse the services of my Raphael, the comp shows only Dial-Up Networking, Object Push and PAN... no Advanced Audio or Headset. Maybe I would need to configure the raphael somehow?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ReznikAkime:
After doing some research, it would definitely have to be added in by way of some third party app. There are only two or three phones out there that support this. Essentially, a deal was made to where phone manufactures wouldn't include the Advanced Audio or Headset profile in their phones.

I don't see why someone couldn't make a program for this though.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Daved+:
I have been looking to do this with other HTCs for more than a year.

So far I can only say it's not possible as it's not supported by the WM BT stack.
[G1 Android Development] Chandon:
I've got an ADP1, and I'm trying to upgrade to JF's v1.5 image. I started from JFv1.43 and radio 1.22.14.11, which seems to work fine.

From there, I flashed the new radio image, wiped, and flashed the JFv1.5 image. I copied image files onto the SD card root as "update.zip" using the USB cable into a booted Android environment and then flashed them using Alt+S on the (JFv1.43) recovery screen.

Here are the files I've got:

aeecdb49b74a0d4bb67f9d8af70c1889 ota-radio-2_22_19_26I.zip

8d78b985316ec77f81c71cab0eeb9f27 JFv1.50_ADP1.5.zip

On the first boot after flashing JFv1.5, I get three bars, can go through the sign in wizard, and can surf the web. In the phone info screen, it shows the correct baseband version. On second and subsequent boots, I get absolutely no signal (zero bars with an X) and in the phone info screen it shows the baseband version as "unknown".

Reflashing the radio image has no effect with either the 2.22 or the 1.22..11 radio. Reflashing the JFv1.5 image makes it work again for a while, but breaks again with the next reboot. This isn't specific to the JF image either - Hv1.5r3 gives me the same behavior.

Further tests:

- JFv1.43 with radio 2.22 works fine.

- The HTC ADP1.5 release breaks the same way. In this test, web connectivity broke before the first reboot; I had gotten the same result in one of my JFv1.5 tests too, so the reboot may not be the key thing.

Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?
[G1 Android Development] tomvleeuwen:
MD5sum

I can confirm that the MD5 sum of the JFv1.5 image is correct. I just installed the two images, like you, and it works fine. (After entering my PIN, it cost 10 seconds before I have bars)

Did you check the MD5 sum of the images after you uploaded them with the android/recovery shell? I don't know if the recovery will detect a corrupt image, but I always check it just in case. I downloaded the image over 3G.

I have a T-mobile G1.
[G1 Android Development] Chandon:
In trying to test this, it magically works now.

I hate it when that happens - if a computer decides to magically work by itself, that means it can decide to magically break again by itself whenever it wants to.

Specifically, I applied the JFv1.5 update over JFv1.43 without wiping this time and I'm now unable to replicate the unknown baseband issue by rebooting.

Edit: Apparently by "works" I mean "google maps and the market both don't work at all". But that's a new problem. Whee...
[G1 Android Development] Chandon:
In playing with the JFv1.43 to Xv1.5 (no wipe) upgrade path, I ran into a couple more issues. That path would consistently result in no working market, and I could only get Google Maps to work on Hv1.5r3.

But I've come up with a new strategy that largely seems to work:

Wipe

Install JFv1.42_R33

Wipe

Boot, Login to Google

Install JFv1.5

When I do this, I get signal and the market works. Google Maps shows a broken icon with the class name and won't launch, but I've basically got a working v1.5 phone.

Apparently all of this stuff just works for everyone else, but I figure I might as well document the fact that it took me two days to install a point-release update on my telephone in case anyone else is equally incompetent.

Edit: Apparently I hadn't installed the new radio. Doing that last doesn't seem to have broken anything.
[G1 Android Development] Chandon:
I managed to solve the Google Maps thing.

I deleted these files:

/system/framework/com.google.android.maps.jar

/system/etc/permissions/com.google.android.maps.xml

/data/data/com.google.android.apps.maps

/system/app/Maps.apk

Then I copied the stuff under /system over from H1.5r3.

I'm relieved - finally Android acted exactly the way I expected it to.
[G1 Android Development] electricbluestang:
Update 1.5 + radio

Hey, I am also having a problem with updating my g1 when I update to the 1.5v and new radio. When I updated to the 1.5v phone was not allowing me to make calls. I updated the radio and then it started acting crazy. No gps, internet, when a phone call come in it automatically went to speaker phone and none of the buttons would work. I couldn't bring up the dial pad or get to the menu. I had to go back to the old radio and old 1.43adp1.1h build. Has anyone gotten this to work and is there a certain order to update and when to wipe. Also, do I need to have a certain build in before updating and could the copies of the radio and build I got be bad. They came in on my jf updater and downloaded ota.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mickey78:
Hey guys. I've spent the last hour trying to figure out how do add my city to the Weather file in Manila.

Here is the content

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>

<locations>

<city name="Vancouver, CA" loca="NAM|CA|BC|VANCOUVER" land="Canada"/>

<city name="Valdor2, CA" loca="NAM|CA|QC|VAL-D'OR" land="Canada"/>

</locations>

Vancouver works perfectly, this is my baseline. The city i'm trying to add is VAL-D'OR so I have 2 special characters the dash and the apostrophe, I've tried every possible combination of escaping or encoding I havent found a way to install this city. If anyone know how let me know!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nowshining:
I don't think a port of it exists, it would be nice - also please include a computer player or so if one of u do conjur one up, also I own a ppc with WM2003, and please NO .Net games... :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] gilligan8:
Something that can do simple basic GPS functions like the original hand helds did. No map needed, can track a path and way points. Most importantly I'd like to use it to measure things... so show me footage from where I start to where I am currently.

I looked at GPS Cycle Computer v3

Which looks like it would be what I want, but it only shows distance in miles... which is way to large of a scale for what I'm looking for.

Anyone have a clue to what I could use?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] JValmont:
The Ultimate X2 Rom in my sig has several great GPS apps cooked in, one called turboGPS which is freeware and should be exactly what you're looking for (although a bit of a learning curve)

Val
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] bteljuice:
do u run GPS turbo in parallel to GPS software(i.e garmin)?

in GPS setup, what do you select. Simulation? API? or none?

What tweaks did you also do in Tubro GPS
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] teodorparcel:
Couple days ago I instaled Sportypal. It is use a GPS to measure time, distance, speed even calories if you select proper activity as walking, running, cycling, rollerblading or "free stile' where you can do what you like to do without calories of course. Nice clean design, feeling is great....it has pause if you like (no measurment in it) continue, track, compass.....it is FREE

http://www.sportypal.com/Workouts/Details/1649

This is my cycling workout from two days ago. Uploading of workout is by your wish.

The mesurment is in yards up to 1mile after is in miles.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Orion110:
That looks to be a good one, I will definately give it a try and report back

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] gilligan8:
Word... I'm definitely looking into that!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] kekele:
I just found out that on sportypal you can upload the gpx file from whereever you want, even if it's not made by the sportypal.

Just upload it and see your stats or analyze your workout. It worked for me, i had some gpx files from before and it put them on the map.