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[Touch 3G General] wildfxp:
I also believe it is annoying that the screen blacks out. Even when I have the phone facing down and not to my ear, the screen blacks :(

I need to get it on, so I could use speakerphone. I'm one of those that love using speakerphone, so yea :)

I will try the InCall cab file.
[General Topics] maerig61:
hi friend im from venezuela my english is not very good ok a i istalling the wm 6.5 in my omnia all very good about the function but i have a problem whit the bluetooth i can send any thing but when other people they try to send me any thing they cant it leaves error in their phone in my omnia all is good configurated in conection i dont now is hapen when a have wm 6.1 all is good not problems all begin when i formated and change to wm 6.5 please help me because i really like this new windows
[General Topics] orb3000:
Welcome to the forum

Perhaps you did not noticed but this is an HTC only forum

However in off topic section youcan find a thread related to omnia

Good luck,
[G1 Android Development] haitiankid4lyf:
Please mods move all other "Brick" threads here.

heres a few things to do if u THINK u have a brick

WIPE

if you haven't wiped and your phone wont load, stop being a baby and wipe, if you need a phone with diapers or pull ups should invest in a different phone :)

if you have apps to sd and you experience the Android Loop (that sounds like a roller coaster ride :)

first off please dont try symlinking your /data/data folder to a /system/sd/data folder that has data from a pre 1.5 firmware build

if u get the loop

try renaming the app and app-private folder to something else like app1 and app-private1 and do the system link normally

if it boots proceed to install the .apks into the respective folders (see code below)

adb remount
adb shell
cd /system/sd
mv app app1
mv app-private app-private1
busybox cp -a /data/app /system/sd/
rm -r /data/app
ln -s /system/sd/app /data/app
busybox cp -a /data/app-private /system/sd/
rm -r /data/app-private
ln -s /system/sd/app-private /data/app-private
reboot
adb remount
adb shell
cd /system/sd/app1
install *.apk /data/app
cd /system/sd/app-private1
install *.apk /data/app-private
reboot
[G1 Android Development] tubaking182:
bump this up even if it won't help. we have another thread specifically for people that THINK they have a brick and yet daily we see at least one new thread saying they are stuck on either the splash screen, animated boot screen, or bootloader. i wish more people would read. as a general rule to everyone here:

IF YOU THINK YOU BRICKED YOUR PHONE AND YOU HAVE ROOT AND YOUR PHONE BOOTS PAST A BLACK SCREEN YOU DO NOT HAVE A BRICK

unless you tried the new SPL from haykuro, we do not have a way to fix that just yet.

i have only seen one person who managed to brick his phone but he was playing with toys he shouldn't have and i will not let you know what they are because i don't wanna see another brick.
[G1 Android Development] wimbet:
I had a girl msg me who thinks she bricked her phone. On her first attempt to downgrade to RC29 she says it failed.

Now each time she starts up the phone, she gets the RGB screen. I told her to start up holding down home and do a wipe, but she says it only goes to RGB screen. I asked her to redownload dreaimg.nbh and copy it to the SD card but she has no cardreader and can't hook the phone up via usb because it won't boot.

I don't know if there is really a problem or it's just her. Shouldn't flashing the dreaimg.nbh take her back to an operational device?
[G1 Android Development] rigamrts:
brick

Just to add to this this phone is practically unbrickable unless you mess up flashing the bootloader flash jf mods or any other mod will not brick your phone just reflash if you can get the screen after holding the power+cam button if you can't get that then you have a brick you can load files by connecting your micro sd card to a sd reader I have a mp3 player that takes micro sd cards. I just use that to transfer files because it reads my sd cards without formatting it
[G1 Android Development] tubaking182:
i remember on the kaiser that even if you managed to screw the bootloader(which i actually tried to do many times) there was a way to fix it. there was a tool that you can find by searching properly(PM me for details) i do not know much about the tool but i remember there was a way to fix any brick. more than once i tried to brick my phone because i found small faults with it and AT&T refused to send a new one because the faults were too small. the member that was able to help was named GSLEON3, i do not know if he is still around but it was a simple command tool to reset some bad blocks on the boot sector of the phone
[G1 Android Development] naTTan:
Hmm i tried looking for a search but i didn't find anything specific to my problem.

I had upgraded to 1.5 and wipe and had no problems what so ever.

I had apps2sd and dalvik cache done and rebooted with no problems after a day or so i tried installing overclocker and set it at 528 works great phone didn't crash.

My batt died one day and when i charge it back up, it was stuck in the 2nd android screen. I was not sure what to do, i was able to access the recovery screen so i did a wipe and started back again.

After 2 3 days i did the whole process again and it repeated itself. So how do i know what is causing this? Is it the overclock app? i tired a different one the 2nd time and thought that it wouldn't cause a problem because it would reset itself upon reboot.

Is it because i have to many apps on my sd? around 80 apps i guess? Anything else that might cause my G1 to stuck in the 2nd screen?

Anyway to pull out a log and see what is causing it?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Edit : Hmm can the beta open home be the cause of it? How do you remove a app in recovery mode? Btw what is the new open hom beta apk file name?

Edit 2 : Yeah it was open home, used adb to remove the apk from the phone and phone booted up, now got to inform the developers. Thanks guys.
[G1 Android Development] kstar54:
I thought I had done it this time for sure! I couldn't get past the G1 screen, no android screen, just black. I wiped, I wiped again, I got to bootloader, then didn't know what to do. Just as I was about to panic, I found this thread and pulled my SD. Dur! What a simple solution, that I never would have thought of! I re-flashed The Dude's Cupcake, and am rockin and rollin!

Thanks for helping the n00b! I am slowly learning....reading and learning!

Thanks

Kstar
[G1 Android Development] RueTheDay:
Has there ever been a VERIFIED case of someone permanently bricking (e.g., impossible to repair) a G1 via firmware updating?

I see a gazillion threads that are along the lines of:

"hey, I was updating my ROM and the phone bricked"

"did you wipe?"

"no"

"wipe and then redo the update"

"ok, it's working now"

I have yet to see someone screw up to the point where no fix was available and the phone had to be tossed in the garbage.
[G1 Android Development] ei8htohms:
I don't think I've seen it yet either

I recall one or two threads about unresponsive phones getting sent back to T-Mo (some time ago), but there was nothing about the situation that made me sure it was a modding catastophe rather than a hardware failure.

If this phone was not nearly bulletproof with regards to software mods, we would see a LOT of true brick threads flying around with all the crazy stuff folks try with their phones around here. Especially lately. :)
[G1 Android Development] rigamrts:
brick

Just ask other than convenance why if you rooted your phone would you put ahome or open home when you could just flash it to your phone at a whim without having the 1.5 theme app bug plus I find flash the theme looks better on the phone. I've tried those apps never felt any of the themes where any good plus they caused the phone to lag real bad.
[G1 Android Development] markosky90:
ho installato una firmware vecchia ed il telefono ora resta fermo nella schermata "htc g1 t-mobile" e non riesco ad entrare nella recovery mode credo di avere un brick come posso fare aiutatemi grazie

I installed an old firmware and the phone now maintains in the "htc g1 t-mobile" and can not log into recovery mode I think I have a brick how can I resolve? help thanks
[G1 Android Development] thats:
I've got the same problem. Nobody around can help us? plz
[G1 Android Development] garsim:
wait and hope.

now we can't anything
[G1 Android Development] hiroots:
go to a tmobile store and tellem u did something. they will check it den call tmobile and see if they can send in a replacement or 20 dollars.
[G1 Android Development] setzer715:
I called tmo and had them send a replacement. As of right now, that is all we can do.
[G1 Android Development] thats:
so you think that soon will be possible tu unbrick it? I really hope so! thanks
[G1 Android Development] garsim:
probably yes, will be possible :)
[G1 Android Development] dixxa:
If your recovery mode don't work anymore try to boot in fastboot (power + camera)

You should see skateboard android little guys or a white page.

then on your computer download this http://jf.andblogs.net/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=12 extract it and browse directories to data to get the "recovery.img"

copy it to c:\

Assuming you know how to adb then type :

fastboot flash recovery c:\recovery.img

fastboot reboot

during the boot of your handset while it's still connected to your computer,

type :

adb shell reboot recovery

If everything went well you should have recovery back.
[G1 Android Development] coldstatue:
So if I see the G1 splash, but do not have recovery or bootloader, there is hope?

I was bricked installing JF 1.43 *after* moving to Haykuro's latest SPL. Apparently, it JF 1.43 downgrades the radio (I'm guessing). Not the way to get Alt+B option back for recovery, regardless. No recovery or bootloader - just the G1 screen.
[G1 Android Development] alapapa:
Keeping Brick posts as consolidated as possible seems like a good idea.

I added a link to the top of the round up.
[G1 Android Development] firiel:
1. I tried to flash same SPL I got on and tada

2. Can not access anything. Hangs on G1 logo, no shortcuts work
[G1 Android Development] shizdollas:
Im stuck

Was updating my phone and now i cant get past the 1st G1 screen, it wont let me get to the recover screen to do a wipe. Im so confused....:confused:
[G1 Android Development] lbf:
One more...
[G1 Android Development] firiel:
Am attaching the response I got from HTC europe. To remind u my case, am from greece bought a G1 from USA through EBAY and ... I BRICKED IT (YEY!!!)

They recommend a hard reset and if it wont work (of course it isn't working)

"then you would need to send the device to the UK repair centre as the G1 was never intended for sale in Greece.

Shipping and any customs charges are not covered by the warranty, and would need to be paid for by you.

Should any evidence of 'Rooting', Modifying or 'hacking' the device, or installing alternative ROMS or SPL Packages be found (which is a common cause of this issue) then the repair will also be chargeable as unauthorised modification of the device is not covered by the warranty. "

Hope it helps anyone
[G1 Android Development] Steeltippin:
I officially bricked my G1, stuck at G1 splash screen. Home+Power, Camera+Power does not do chit lol....I called Tmobile about it, made up something and got my replacement the other day. It all happened when I tried to update my SPL to Haykuros. I am going to think twice before I root again. I might just do root and a custom ROM that does not require a change in the SPL if that is possible.
[G1 Android Development] dionysos911:
I installed the Radio then the SPL from this link http://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/downloads/list

I can still wipe and flash so if I can get that SPL update on my sd card I should be ok? I don't want to make another dumbass move an start flashing things without knowing the consequences, again.
[G1 Android Development] g1lucky:
What excuse did you use because i did the same thing and now i am stuck..

Did you have to pay anything?

Plz Let me know what you did.:confused:
[G1 Android Development] --phs:
G1 CAN BRICK (PVT, radio 2.22.19.26I, SPL 1.33.2005) Even if done "correctly"...

Just wanted to make sure folks were aware of this, as it's happened in a number of different cases where people apparently followed instructions properly...

***** IT IS POSSIBLE TO BRICK A G1 (PVT board) **EVEN** IF YOU FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS PERFECTLY!!! *****

***** The problem is that after flashing the "new" SPL (after flashing radio 2.22.19.26I), the phone sometimes won't reboot properly, and then you're hosed. *****

Instead it only makes it to the G1 boot screen and there is then no longer any way to boot into flash or recovery modes.

There is something very bad about the "new" SPL. The only way to insure you don't brick your G1 is:

DON'T USE THE "NEW" SPL (1.33.2005) UNLESS YOU DON'T MIND RISKING A BRICKED G1! EVEN FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONS PERFECTLY, THE G1 CAN STILL BE KILLED!!!
[G1 Android Development] imnothimm:
To everyone who Bricked their phone via the SPL update:

IF YOU ARE WITH T-MOBILE......

Call T-mobile

Tell them your phone was updating to cupcake

You left your phone alone for a while while it was updating...

You came back it was off

Since then it won't boot past the T-Mobile G1 Screen

Do this and they will send you one for free via UPS 3 day select, or 20$ to overnight it.
[G1 Android Development] allstate973rd:
cnt get past the g1 screen...

my fone is stuc on tmobile g1 and i cant access bootload or anything i tried home + pwr and camer + power. with no luck
[G1 Android Development] jugg2000:
Yep, I bricked my phone. Tried the new SPL from haykuro and the phone will not pass the G1 splash screen. HOME + POWER, POWER + CAMERA won't work... battery out, battery in is also an utter fail. Went to T-Mobile and ordered a new phone (two weeks before it touches my mailbox)... in the mean time I have a cheap, pitiful loaner phone that has a pitiful screen and dents in it from other users (crack heads maybe?).

Now, this is the beef I have with the first paragraph of the quote above...

It is HARD to find info on these boards, especially for those (like myself) just signing in. Yes, I'm sure there is a wealth of info here, but uh, frankly I feel like I'm solving a mystery and I have to hunt for the steps in the right direction.

Let's take unlocker.com for instance, they have a step by step on how to root a G1... easy to follow, compact, direct. Now, let's fast forward to this morning when I tried so desperately to upgrade my ROM to the new SuperHero v2 I missed a crucial piece of info that could have saved me this heart ache... something about PVT = flash new SPL and DVT = Brick. Well, after I searched (and I do mean search) for the procedures on partitioning (which I followed successfully after purchasing Apps2SD2) I felt wonderful and ready to FINALLY upgrade my SPL... well, um, you see how that turned out.

Now if the procedures for UPGRADING TO SUPERHERO (that means ALL the procedures) were centralized into one place, like maybe THE SUPERHERO THREAD, nobody would ask one question... dummy proof for the dummies (like me). I guess everyone assumes that everybody SHOULD know some elements of upgrading a G1... and that's the problem... ASSUMPTIONS.

Look, when I get my new G1, I'm going to create a thread outlining from step ONE to whatever installing SuperHero; I'm starting from rooting until SuperHero all in one thread. It may be many steps, but it'll make this easier for people signing on that know very little about the G1 and just want a cooler looking phone... and I'm just keeping it real.

v/r

jugg2000
[G1 Android Development] jugg2000:
Actually, just tell them that you "bricked" the phone trying to update the SPL to the root flux capacitor regulator and the telnet housing displaced when you su'd the terminal causing a process kill that burnt your cupcake apk/adp.

Then when they look at you like you're a Nerd-tard, tell them the truth... like I did.
[G1 Android Development] B-Eazy:
I understand you being upset and a stand up guy (or girl) but doing this leaves you wide open for "that is not covered under your warranty." The info provided is to help you get a new phone cuz providers don't cover hacking, modding and flashing of roms that they did not provide.

As for directions, it sux that you got a brick but this is the developement section and most people hear DO assume you know how to root ur phone and flash roms because most of the people hear r developers. They provide free roms and we enjoy them. The first thing people need to do is read the first post and the 2 stickies. A lot of info is there. There are a whole bunch of disclaimers and warnings on this forums about that spl bricking the hell out of phones but if you jumped right into the rom flashing its kinda easy to miss.

Information is kinda hard to find even when searching but your best bet is to read the stickies and ask somebody. A developer might take a while to get back to you but plenty of members know what they r doing and what they r talkin about. And the stickies do have all the info needed for the G1 but its a lot of reading to do and its not easy to understand if your not familiar with the methods.
[G1 Android Development] jugg2000:
Understood. However, on the real... nobody wants to spend hours sifting through information they either they don't understand or can't relate to fully. For instance, what good is a developer if his or her hard labor doesn't produce a user friendly result? That's why they work so hard... to make products that EVERYBODY can use and find useful. Hey, if people can't understand the directions on the back of an oatmeal box, then that oatmeal is nothing more then kitty litter to them, and something good immediately turns into something totally useless to them... but the cat wouldn't complain, though.

I know, I know... you feel you have to defend the forum, but believe me... I appreciate the work of these developers. It would be nice if others would help these guys out and post the steps they took to get, for instance, SuperHero "safely" onto their G1s. The developers should have to spell it out for everybody... just produce it to whomever understands and then those people translate it all into layman's steps for the rest of us. I mean, I think the steps are pretty standard for every ROM save maybe a few, am I right?

Believe me... more people than just developers find this place. This forum pops up on Google which means there are a lot of untrained eyes trying to figure things out here. Any information dealing with G1 should be pretty much well packaged by now regardless of the developments taking place.

People want info easy and fast... that's just keeping it real, my friend.

Or better yet... maybe the devs (or whoever) can LINK some of the steps to links dedicated to certain procedures so they wouldn't have to reinvent the wheel. If threads are made already, then surely linking can be used effectively here.

But it's whatever...
[G1 Android Development] B-Eazy:
I know what ur sayin. I'm not a dev but I don't like bricking my phone so I spent a while readin and readin and readin cuz I know where I'm at and who realistically is obliged to help me. This is not oatmeal, this like finding instructions on how to uprade ps3 firmware urself. Either way most rom devs have disclaimers saying "this could damage ur phone". Good look with ur new phone
[G1 Android Development] jugg2000:
Thanks...

I'll try to be careful the next time. I may end up bricking the next one because I just can't give up as a loser, so I'ma keep trying.

v/r

jugg2000
[G1 Android Development] funbacon:
I see that we can boot to Android screen or Tmobile screen. This is boot image in our phone. I think the flash is only error, not dead. Can we read image from a non-bricked phone and write data to bricked phone's flash using a special machine ?

Or can we hard-mod battery (like PSP hacking) and using special sdcard to run special recovery from sdcard ?
[G1 Android Development] carpenterman:
cyanogens rom

i just flashed my g1 with cyans latest stable version from jf1.51 adp.

I love the speed and all functions work great but my phone keeps shutting off by itself after about 10 minites of serious use.Does anyone know why this is happening or have a solution?

Its almost like its over worked and having a heart attack.:confused:
[G1 Android Development] B-Eazy:
You'll get a better answer if you post in the thread for your rom but it sounds like theres a cpu overclock program thats making your cpu get to hot so your phone cuts off b4 any damage occurs.

This is the brick thread so I definitely could be wrong, check cyan's thread
[G1 Android Development] Fear_Zoa:
I guess Im bricked since i flashed haykuro's spl and now my phone will not turn on:mad:

EDIT:Somehow I got it into recovery mode....its fixed now :D
[G1 Android Development] jugg2000:
Got my replacement phone from T-mobile yesterday. Re-rooted it and got it back up to snuff... good stuff, good stuff.

I'm not trying that SuperHero MOD until I get the business on it. I got the sequence of installing it, but still... I'm weary now.

Hey, for those of you who never got a replacement phone from T-mobile, they send you the BARE minimum components and expect you to take your sd card, battery, and battery/camera cover from the old phone to be used on the new phone. SO DON'T THROW AWAY OR GIVE AWAY YOUR OLD PHONE!

Just thought somebody may be curious about that replacement process.
[G1 Android Development] alahao:
I really need to know how you fixed it... I had the same problem with the new SPL. And right now, I am just keep trying rebooting it with different key combination. Will not pass G1 screen, will not entering recovery mode, or bootloader. Is there anything else I could at least give a try? Anyone? Thanks in advance.
[G1 Android Development] lbf:
one more... :p welcome to the team
[G1 Android Development] alahao:
I got it bricked from not being careful enough, flashed the new SPL without checking my Radio version. (I thought I updated it...)

HELP US!!
[G1 Android Development] SamFortal:
One more Bricked

Hi guys,

I change a lot of times between JF and Dudes version. My last rom was Dude's 1.3 (AOSP + ADP 1.5). So i try install Haykuros Hero rom, puting new SLP frist and... i got a brick.

How i can solve this? I can enter into recovery (home + power) and bootloader (camera + power) neither = BRICK. I have a SD adapter to access the card into computer.

Can anyone help us?
[G1 Android Development] B-Eazy:
dude, your bricked. Currently we have no way of helping. read the past 3 pages of this thread.

Did you mean can't? If you can did you wipe? If that didn't work then you'll have to push a different rom onto your G1 then just update

If you can't get into either bootloader or recovery call t-mobile. your are with the rest of the bricked.

all these answers are in this thread. If someone finds a solution then we can ask a mod or the op to update the first post
[G1 Android Development] SamFortal:
Sorry, i wrote wrong

How i can solve this? I canT enter into recovery (home + power) and bootloader (camera + power) neither = BRICK
[G1 Android Development] jugg2000:
Ok, let's walk the dog on this here...

If HTC developes the G1 then can't we call HTC and find out how to unbrick a phone? I mean, they developed it so surely they can fix it or provide a answer to point devs in the right direction.

What's up with that?

I'm guessing the start up instruction gets damaged on the phone, sooooo there must be a way to put those instructions back on the phone and I beleive HTC got the info...

Obsurd? I think not.
[G1 Android Development] Red_Code:
Im guessing the same thing ............... There has to be a way to startup the phone from zero,