yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Da_G:
yes, any rom that has ezinput will also have eT9, so it should work

:)

eT9 is the key package to support the extra characters on hw kb.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] schaggo:
So for your HW keyboard to work, ezInput (on screen KB) isnt mandatory but optional while eT9 (driver/engine/...) is needed. Right?

Fiddled around some more, cant get it to work, no chance. I'll do some banking and finance theory for now...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] RezzZ:
Perhaps it's not OS related. If you got a lot of SMSes in your backup file like me (approx 2000 in inbox and sentbox together since september 2008) it takes windows mobile quite some time to order them correctly so you can look at then threaded. Haven't timed it yet but it takes more than 1 hour before the device responds normal again. In the meantime, just keep the messages window open and see everything get threaded ;)

@Da_G or any other cook :), n00b question here, i'm new with kitchen etc but which configuration file do I need to load to get this rom?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] flipoere:
#Schaggo: I second that reg. study vs. XDA-Developers - would much rather just stay "in the kitchen" ;)

#Da_G: So far no luck here with the cab either I'm affraid. I am not the biggest techie when it comes the inner workings of WM, but as said before, I will help where I can.

#Both: Is this a generic WM6.5 only problem? If so, should we create a new thread to discuss this?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] schaggo:
Well I know that Windows Mobile indexes the message database and orders the messages into the threaded views and that this absorbs most of the resources. But until now, the device was sluggish until the process was finished. Now it dies ;) Its usually finished after 10-15 minutes, I only got 500 text's though, not 2000.

I doubt that. My keyboard worked just fine in monx latest publicly available WM6.5 build, the 2.101 of his ROMeOS ROM (based on Da_G's 21501 kitchen) once I installed the QWERTY-to-QWERTZ-CAB I mentioned earlier.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] RezzZ:
is there a way to backup the index file also with PIM so WM doesn't need to index the smses over and over again? i flash a lot so it would be nice if that was possible :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] brannutz:
Could you post a cab for the connection setup wizard or bake it into the next rom. I want to use your clean rom but don't know how to setup my connection settings manually. The last rom I tried did not have the voicemail settings and I could not check my mail without entering my phone number which really sucked.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] X2D:
could anyone possibly zip up the ringtones from this ROM and post them? =)) pretty please...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] danthman2000:
There you go.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dcelluser:
MS Tech Ed

Wow just got through watching an episode of Tech Ed from http://www.msteched.com/online/view.aspx?tid=5471dd4c-9d1f-47c8-85df-c3bf5bfe678c and I must say if they got it working on a Fuze, be nice if one of those dev images got leaked! Looks like they achieved what DaG is doing his best to bring to us. Still amazes me that MS is using a Fuze for developement and testing but I bet AT&T has no plans to release it to us. Be interested in what drivers and packages from HTC they are using. Also we are not alone in not using the HTC Dialer. But you never know maybe a developer will see this post and hook us up in the future :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] :
Hmm, wonder what build he was using. His ok/X button was fast and he never missed tapping it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Da_G:
Hi, i'm already making preparations for the next build,

This time i'm not removing ULDR because I now have a native 6.5 ULDR, this means to you guys that you will be losing ~3mb of space for your goodies, but the tradeoff is that you get a fully operational auto update (the good word is that the auto update facility in 6.5 can FULLY update a ROM on the fly, including XIP and everything, which is really cool!)

I don't yet know if it works, but it will be one step closer to working with a complete ULDR at least :)

Edit: watched the video, the reason he's having an easy time with the X button is he hasn't modded the registry to make the power button clickable, so the x button is "double wide" :) I disable this feature in favor of being able to click the power icon to get to the power control panel. You can easily re-enable it with a registry key though :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] thedogger:
Hey Da_G - What registry key do you change to get the "double-wide" ok button?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Da_G:
hi,

; X does not take up 2 spaces, can click battery icon
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\TaskBar]
"LimitedClock"=dword:0
"ConsistentClockOrBattery"=dword:0

i believe the double wide setting is

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\TaskBar]
"LimitedClock"=dword:1

or it might be

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\TaskBar]
"ConsistentClockOrBattery"=dword:1

i forget, one of the two :)

:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] RezzZ:
was just playing with your kitchen. Converted my first few cabs to OEM (with package creator 5.4)... I hope I did it right but where do I put those folders in the kitchen? EXT\Raphael\COMMON\RezzZ folder?

but thats not the point. Was looking in your DaGs_Mods folder and the registry file in in. it says:

; X does not take up 2 spaces, can click battery icon (set LimitedClock to 0 for double wide x)
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\TaskBar]
"LimitedClock"=dword:0
"ConsistentClockOrBattery"=dword:0

so I guess no need to remember ;). As long as it's been written somewhere :D. LimitedClock to 0
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] X2D:
thank you so much i appreciate it
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] wethead4:
is this rom optimized to utilize radio 1.12.25.19?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] SaT117:
Skype Problem...

Hey i just flashed my Fuze with this rom but now i have just one problem...

Skype dosnt work!

dosnt mattter if i use the 3G network, activatesync or WiFi the program just dont connect.

I remebr when i flashed my Elfin WM65 asked to unblock (allow) Skype to connect to the internet

This one dosnt do that

anyone can help me?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NFRCER:
Hi Da_G! and thnx for the awesome 6.5 Roms, I missed the Roms :).

I hava a question regarding the Comm manager provided here.

I installed the Tachi Comm manager but it seems the mapping to the PTT button still leads to the older one provided by you. Same goes when clicking Comm manager in the today screen.

Is there anyways to solve this?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Wordsmith9091:
That's because the lnk in Windows\Appbuttons is still to the old Comm Manager. You can easily solve this on an already-built ROM by copying the one from the start menu over to there.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Da_G:
Actually, I follow the Win Mob standard for replacing the Comm Manager, and for whatever reason, HTC doesnt :P

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\WrlsMgr]
"Redirect"="\\Windows\\CommManager.exe"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Rai\:MSWRLSMGR]
"0"="MSWRLSMGR" ; class name
"1"="\\Windows\\CommManager.exe" ; exe to launch
"2"=dword:1 ; perf hint (RAI_PERF_*)
"3"=dword:0 ; app type (?)

change your reg to that, and it'll take care of ya :) (the shortcut calls :MSWRLSMGR which is currently pointing to the windows stock one, and the .cab for it doesnt replace that link in the registry)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Da_G:
21232 MSVC

http://rapidshare.com/files/233352326/Da_G_Clean_ROM_WM6.5_21232_5.08_ATT_Base-v1-MSVC.rar

updated first post
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] :
So um, whats the diffrence between 21231 and 21232?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Da_G:
a digit

you'd have to ask microsoft :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] aaznak:
ROM Da_G

Hello,

I can Flache t7272 my Touch Pro with this rom?

:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Da_G:
Yes, you will need one of the many tools to change the keyboard layout to Touch Pro however

:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] X2D:
M$ said ask Da_G because they have no flipping idea what they're doing... we're doomed..
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] aaznak:
ROM Da_G

21232 v1

21232 v1 + MSVC

Sorry, but that is what the differance? :mad:

Htc Touch Pro T7272

Rom:Da_G WM6.5 21231
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] :
That was EXACTLY what I was going to say.

Either that or 'Da_G actually does work for M$ and hes the leader of the dev team, so ask him.'
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] TheAgent1982:
Kitchen ?

Any Kitchen for that 21232 ROM?

Chefs are on the run.... for that... :cool:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] shiguo:
isn't it obvious?!! read man!!! one is with voice command and one without it...ggeeeeezzzzz
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Da_G:
I can only upload so fast.. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] aaznak:
ROM Da_G

Da_G and excellent, even if he works for M $ is not serious, as he says:

Philosophy: As stock as you can get while maintaining 100% hardware functionality

:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] aaznak:
Thank you, I sleep it is 9:20 PM in France (Lille)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Wordsmith9091:
Oh suuure, if you want to tell him the SMART way to do it. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mexiken:
Wouldn't that be nice. He'd be my best bud :)

Or maybe he does....ah, the mystery....

;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] evrenaker:
any mirrors for this download?

need help guys, any mirrors pls....:eek:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ar1989:
Sorry if this has been asked, I'm kind of a noob at this nd this is the first rom I ever flashed but is it normal for 3G not to work? Why does it happen? Can I do something about it? Thanks in Advance. :)

[EDIT] Ok I got it to work better with EDGE by changing my phones "Band" Network Type and Selecting a GSM/UMTS band. Am I heading in the right direction? I Changed The Network Type to "GSM" and set GSM/UMTS band as "Auto" so now I get better EDGE, but it would be better if I could get 3G to work.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] cg87:
Is there anyway to organize the new start menu?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] thedogger:
Thanks - I'll give it a try!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] smis:
Does this ROM contain titanium?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ar1989:
wow r questions regularly unanswered here? well neway in wat way did u want to organize the start menu? nd "smis" i'd try to help u bt i dont kno wat ur tlkn about.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Da_G:
ar1989:

please describe your issue with 3g in more detail. are you never able to establish one? im almost exclusively on hsupa with no problems.

oh and.. patience is a virtue :)

smis:

yes, titanium is part of wm 6.5 and the goal here is a 'stock' setup :)

cg87: registry, hklm/security/shellinfo/start if i recall, a subkey for each .lnk and dword "rank" in that subkey determines start menu order
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] flipoere:
Haha, love the comment man :D Thx for the on-going release-updates, already with the 222 release I've had the higest degree of stability ever experienced with any HTC device. I'm finally a happy camper.

Btw, for anyone interested in radio/sys coupling let me say that the 1.14.25.05 radio (with the corresponding rilphone) has given me the most fantastic coverage and battery time.

Just wanted to share - Thanks Da_G again ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] schaggo:
It's still me, I'm still following the thread... Any idea on how I can get my german umlaute on my Touch Pro 7272? Experimented and hardreset *sigh its a pain to do the initial configs just to hardreset right away afterwards...* for two days now, no success.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] nesds:
great ROM, lot of freedom for the user as a consequence -- thanks very much!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] RezzZ:
you can change the order of the icons. just longclick on the icon and select move to top.

if you got the whole order thougt out, start with the icon you want at the bottom and sent that one 2 te top. then the next and the next. The last one you sent to te top is your most favorite icon ;)

yep:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] timolol:
You're correct, although the process is unnecessarily tedious. I'm sure a company with the man-power of microsoft could have come up with a better method of reorganizations than that!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] cg87:
Sorry that my question wasn't clear enough. I was trying to ask if there was an easier way to organize it besides one by one. Based on the responses so far, I guess the answer is no. Thanks anyway.

Also, is there anyway to get the old style start menu back?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Rytt55:
Using Manilla

After installing this ROM and putting on the manilla from his first clean rom, everytime I go to landscape and back to portrait, the taskbar turns to the blue theme. If I set the HTC black theme in Today, I lose the new menu style, but any other theme makes my taskbar change to that color instead of staying black. Any ideas?

Also, why is the startmenu/setup empty? Where are the files located? The reason is when I installed QuickMenu, I lost the "Today.ink" within startmenu/setup/personal.

Thanks for the great ROM Da_G!!

Rytt
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] wshader:
Wow first 6.5 rom I could actually picture using as a regular setup. Excellent work as always. Actually starting to enjoy titanium too. However does anyone know the registry key to modify the system volume? Seems kinda quiet to me.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Da_G:
updated first post w/v2, speed tweaks discussed in kitchen thread (higher pagepool, cache sizes)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] vido.ardes:
I am loving the clean ROM, but I am looking for a couple of cabs, and I am wondering if anyone here can help me. I would like to install the new Notifications page that pops up when you click the taskbar, I can only seem to find cabs the bring up popups when you reccive some sort message. I am also looking for the task manager, I keep getting versions that are horribly pixleated so I assume I keep finding sub-vga versions
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] phobos512:
You should be able to find all the various HTC apps you're used to in the CAB list in Da_G's older clean ROM thread, located here.

Here's something I've been wondering - does the email app pop up regularly on this variant of 6.5 once an account is added? That was driving me absolutely nuts with NRG's ROM and led me to try out this one (which I have to say I am absolutely enthralled with - none of those stupid apps that I can't stand!).

EDIT

Well with v2 out I went ahead and decided to try an email account with v1 figuring if it starts acting weird I'll just upgrade. So far however it hasn't been popping up. With NRG's ROM it was popping up *very* often. So this is a good sign. I'll still probably upgrade to v2 tonight though. Stupid tinkering habit I have lol...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] phobos512:
Your linkages are messed up :) Thanks for the update!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] phobos512:
New question for you - how does one change the program run with the Power Button? I did some searching that indicated one has to replace a file in the Windows directory, but on this ROM that file is in ROM so can't be modified. I'd like to get the psShutXP hooked up to the power button.

THANKS! :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ar1989:
Umm ya sorry I thought that was what I had sed. I always used to be able to get 3G with at least 3 bars and after getting this rom i can't i can get full E bars but never 3G. I was just wondering if it was just mine. OH and okay I guess I can TRY to be a lil more patient. :D OHHH and I hope I made a lil more sense now. :o
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] phobos512:
Just in case anyone wants to know, the correct key to get the wide close button was:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\TaskBar]
"ConsistentClockOrBattery"=dword:1

Leave LimitedClock as 0. I tried it both ways. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Da_G:
ar1989: i'm even running the same radio as you :( i duno what might be causing it.. :(

phobos512: gimme a sec i'll write a quick cab that puts a power button option on the buttons menu :)

edit: attached
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] morpher99:
exchange 2010 sms sync

Hey Da_g, first, thanks for all your hard work and awsomeness,

Do you know if this build supports Exchange 2010 SMS syncing?

Thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ar1989:
OH nevermind. MahBad guess i shud have done some research first. ders no prblem at all. Sorry im still learning all dis stuff. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] pcboyy:
i'm super noob.. i've downloaded the file from 1st post and there is no RaphaelWrapper.exe... i've search raphaelwrapper in this thread but no solution.. how can i flash this Rom into my Touch Pro? Any specific link that has tutorial to flash this Rom?Please..

** I have few cooked ROMs in my PC.. can i just simply use their RaphaelWrapper.exe to flash this Da_G's ROM?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] X2D:
yes you can use any RaphaelWrapper
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] phobos512:
Works great, thanks!

The PTTMod required means that you can't install the ATT PTT software listed in the CABs of your prior clean ROM, correct? I don't use PTT so that's fine for me but figured I'd clear it up in case anyone else is wondering. :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] wshader:
Does that mean you'll be able to send us push updates eventually lol? Or will it only work once everything is official?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Da_G:
wshader:

That would be awesome wouldn't it :)

But push upgrades are initiated via SMS message generally, would not be practical to maintain a database of everyone's mobile to be able to update them in such a manner :(

Once the API is documented it may be worth looking into an alternate way (i.e. load up a cab - it connects to update server - downloads update and updates your rom)

Won't be for some time yet though, for the documentation to be written

But now we are prepared :)

phobos512: The 2 softwares may actually coexist OK, I helped xcsdm with development of PTTMod and I don't believe these 2 softwares will conflict, but I have not tried :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] phobos512:
Da_G - gotcha on the PTT software. I'll leave that up to someone else to check out since AT&T PTT has no place on my phone :)

I have a new question re: your power button remap. The psShutXP that I downloaded doesn't seem to actually turn the phone off - it just turns the screen off. I've had versions of psShutXP that did though. Have to fiddle with that I guess. But to get the regular display off functionality of the screen to work I selected "Display Switch" for the regular Power Button press - this works as expected when everything is on - i.e. when you press the power button the screen turns off. However, when the screen is off and you hit the power button the screen turns on then turns back off again. Then when the screen is off from that state and you hit the power button the screen comes back on as you'd expect. So, when the screen dims due to the phone turning it off from the power settings it doesn't set a flag (or something) the same way as when you turn the screen off with the button. Any ideas?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] cg87:
Is there a cab to make the start menu more than 3 columns?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Da_G:
experienced similar issues in the past, thats part of the reason it didnt make it to being a standard buttons option - good luck tinkering :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] phobos512:
Well I don't know how to fix the assignment of the button to make it act like stock BUT I did find a piece of software that does what I wanted - act like normal display switch with quick press, long press turns on psShutXP and actually turns the phone off all the way when you click the Turn off Button. Here's the link:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=475761
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] GiODi:
Start Menu

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3304751&postcount=1
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] cg87:
Awesome! Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
FYI - There's a Fuze version of this here. I use it and it works nicely.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] phobos512:
Good find. I didn't even notice before that it says the name of the phone on the shutdown screen. lol. :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] toddr:
I have now been running this ROM for about a week, and its stability and usability continue to impress me.

I have one issue, that I am sure is just a setting I can't find. The "X" button in the upper right of any applications just minimizes the application doesn't close it. I find that when I check my task manager, I have a long list of open applications.

Thanks in advance for the help.

Todd
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] gunshy73:
HTC Task Manager

Goto this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=446652 and look for the link to the HTC Task Manager.

Install the CAB

Perform a soft reset

Goto Start, Settings, System and click on Task Manager

Click on the "Button" Tab

Click on the "End programs by tapping 'X'" Radio button.

Click Ok
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
There are two options:

Do the below, or . . .

Press and hold the "X" button to close applications, rather than single press. This, apparently (or so I've been told), is the default Windows Mobile behavior.

(personally, I use HTC Task Manager)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] :
Here, check out my post here. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3780534&postcount=4802
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] toddr:
Thanks for all the advise, I loaded the cab, but it seems that only the original task manager that was baked into the ROM is working, I don't know how to remove it. The HTC task manager doesn't list any running aps and the X button still doesn't exit them. I soft reset twice.

I also tried holding the X button, with no luck.

This seems like such a silly issue, but now it's bugging me.

Thanks,

Todd

*****It is now working, the first cab that I loaded, HTC TaskManager 2.1.37655.1.cab wouldn't work at all. I went to the one that Da_G had uploaded in the thread gunshy73 listed and all is good. Here is his link in case anyone is looking.

http://rs445.rapidshare.com/files/170694486/HTC_Task_Manager.cab

Thanks again
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] vinsyl:
Non AT&T users

Hi Da_G and all,

Very very good rom, thx Da_G:-).

I just have question regarding non AT&T users (french for me but nevermind).

You said in the first post, that these settings are automatically fixed: "Comes set up with AT&T MMSC settings and AGPS settings, gprs settings".

How can I disable these steps if it's possible?

How can I reset the AGPS settings and/or gprs settings?

I have tried to create a new connection for my provider (tested and worked on another rom) but with IE, I have an error: "error 403, you are not authorized to display...". I have notice during steps to create the new connection that the modem is "Cellular line or Cellular line (GPRS)" and for me the correct modem is "Cellular line (GPRS, 3G)"....

Do you think that is a problem with the gprs settings? Do you have a solution?

Do you think I have to change other settings to have a non AT&T rom?

Thanks in advance for your help and I hope these questions are not already posted:-)

Regards.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] alexeyGE:
I have Swiss provider Sunrise. I have established a GPRS connection with Internet point d'access. Everything works fine.