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[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
I too was disappointed slightly with the HD when I first bought. But I stuck with it, tweaked it and I'm now a lot happier than I was.

#1. I miss the hard key to turn on/off the bluetooth/wifi. To navigate to Comm Manager and use on/off function is very straight forward. Takes 3 buttons presses at most.

#2. I miss the led indicator of the wireless status. You can download different task bar icons, countless available if you search whoch have better wireless status indicators

#3. for touch camera, I also miss the hard key to trigger it. You can use apps like HD Tweak or AEB Plus and remap soft keys so camera is one click away

#4. The touch screen doesn't respond to touch. You must press with some strength. It is even worse than Axim 51v. Again use HD Tweak and change sensitivity of touch press

#5. difficult to plug in/out sd card. Gonna have to live with this one. Not as bad as you think compared to some other phones

#6. I soft reset axim once/twice a week to get best performance. But to access soft reset button is not convenient. Try using Touch Off. Easy app for soft reset/trun off etc

#7. I miss the D-pad. Use 3rd party apps. Can be found in Themes, Applications and Software forum

To improve performance I'd recommend reading up on the wiki for some tips. HD Tweak & Advanced Config shoould also help. Also, there our countless cooked roms out there which have been tweaked for performance. All you need to do is search!!
[Touch HD General] stonedge:
my X1 is better...
[Touch HD General] henrik.dk:
Thank you for all these information.

The capability to adjust touch sensitivity is really super. I will definitely try it.

Do you have any recommendation of wireless tools also?

Regarding D-pad, I really cannot image it can be implemented by 3rd applications.

But your response had made me think that I should keep it ....
[Touch HD General] henrik.dk:
complain - as it worth to complain.

I really cannot live with phone+axim+gps when I go outdoors.
[Touch HD General] leobox1:
i came from X1 I LOVE THE HD
[Touch HD General] sthapa:
I bought mine in Dec 08, and so far ive been real disappointed.

* constant lag

* battery sucks

* non standard USB port

* Flaky paint work

but the biggest critism is the lack of structured apps compared to the iphone and android phones. I'll gladly pay for apps that are easy to download and install, hell even nokia have their own store.

Seems to me HTC just rushed through these phones without thinking of after sales products.

Ive always disliked Apple but im seriously going to have a look at the new iphone this summer....anyone wanna buy my HD :(
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
Go to themes, Applications and software and type in D-Pad and see whats going on. They're is currently threads on this where some have acheived a simple D-pad and others are still trying to implement more advanced ones. Also search under mortscript and a game pad similar to the nintendo gameboy has been created for your gaming needs.

For every fault which the HD has, someone in this excellent community has either fixed it or is trying to fix it. You just have to know where to search mate.

Only things which can't be fixed are hardware ones like increasing camera quality or flashlight. Otherwise, happy searching!!
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
iphone approve every game which appears on their device. Because the HD is WM they cannot approve every game as anyone can basically create games for windows. This is the main reason my HTC do not provide one web site for all apps & games.

Typical websites for apps and games would be:

www.handango.com

www.pocketgear.com

http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/?en
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
You could try these 2 amongst others
[Touch HD General] sthapa:
but spartan, why do HTC need permission to sell games/app that run on WM ?
[Touch HD General] PeterGuru:
Sometimes people just complain for the sake of complaining

Constant lag? Mine is as fast as I need, and that's quick.

Battery sucks? I have no problem going a full day using virtually everything, and talking a few hours on the phone. After that, I recharge it through my USB port and up-date everything via ActiveSync. Perfect!

Non-standard USB port? Oh, please. The standard USB port fits perfectly. I use a standard USB port to connect my computer to the HD.

Flaky paint work? I haven't had a single flake of paint since I bought it four months ago. Perhaps you have a bad batch.

Don't paint every HD with the same brush. Your complaints are irrelevant to me because they simply are not true when you apply them to my HD.

Peter
[Touch HD General] Aaronc1978:
I think you may need to re-read his post
[Touch HD General] dao:
I think what spartan was referring to is the fact that the iphone is locked (unless you JB it) They control what you can and can't have whereas WM you are free to have anything you like.

There are millions of apps/games/etc for WM phones so all you need do is search on forums like this and on the net to get what you want. HTC don't need get any permission because ultimately they don't control the phone. It's up to you to install what you want. HTC are in the business of providing phones not the 3rd party programs you run on them.

As regards the thread: I'm very happy with my HD. I'm not a camera user so this aspect of the phone has never bothered me, I just look at it as an extremely handy extra feature.

Soft reset - just install a program as has been said

SD card - Not needed to swap the 8Gb card as yet and can't see any real instances where I'd be constantly needing to swap it with any frequency.

Dpad - never used it on my trinity so not missed it on the HD

Battery life is amazing - I have watched all 3 Pirates of the Caribbean films on 1 charged battery (that was one hell of a long day waiting round for people i can tell you!)

After about 2 months of constant (reasonably heavy) use there are no visible marks or scratches on the phone and people are constantly amazed at it's looks.

So all in all I'm happy but perhaps I'm less fussy than most people here.
[Touch HD General] Tsadila:
The phone Rulez. Period

Sure, a D-pad would be nice and it would be even better if you could attach the car battery to it (consumes like a bloody ($*T%(#$*^). Yes, for a plain phone it is both big-ish and a bit heavy

Nonetheless a) It is not merely a phone b) Rulez (see above)

If you want to compare crappy WM devices, just have a try at LG KS20 :p
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
@sthapa - Think both dao & Aaronc1978 answered you query efficiently
[Touch HD General] henrik.dk:
I tried the hd tweak and the sensitivity adjustment is just for touchflo

but not for the touch screen itself. I used phatpad a lot for note taking in axim. But for HD touch, it is almost imposssible to draw a continuous line

since the strengh required to press the stylus is way too bigger.

Anyone tried to use phatpad in HD?
[Touch HD General] antrak:
Try the last cab file in this post. Might be your registery settings cause my screen draws a line without using any strength at all with a screen protector applied. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=469865
[Touch HD General] KP_2009:
Well I'm a noob to PPC/PDA type devices (I had a work crackberry eons ago, hardly ever used it) and I'm happy-ish with the phone so far.

My main gripes so far are:

Contact copy from SIM was a nightmare, and I'm having to go back and enter everything by hand because the numbers were basically a mess...also can't remember how to change the name order in the address book to firstname/lastname :o

Music player is fine, however I was gutted that it won't play avi/divx out of the box...I mean WTF? Still I guess that I should have expected something similar given it's windos...

Other than that I love it - great piece of kit!
[Touch HD General] ratchetjaw:
I am loving mine, to me it beats my iphone 3g in every aspect and actually keeps my attention. Used media player to play all my tunes while mowing the lawn and sound quality was every bit as good as my iphone if not better. I even made my own ringtone with mp3 trimmer. That would have had to have been done on the pc threw itunes with the iphone. The HD rocks in my book. I have had 8-10 phones in the past year and i may be done for a while. At least till i can try the touch pro 2 :D
[Touch HD General] brusko1972:
Im very happy with my hd. its the best phone ive owned over the years. i have been a nokia guy for as long as i can remember and im glad i switched to windows mobile with the hd. i do miss the hardware keypad when texting
[Touch HD General] henrik.dk:
Could be due to my bad luck?

I just tried the tweak cab but still with the same result.
[Touch HD General] moullas:
Ever since SPB mobile shell 3 came out, the usability factor went up 100% for me, beating even the iphone in aesthetics for a UI...

It was as if it was designed specifically for this phone, and it fixes a lot of the shortcoming of WM.

1) I don't need comm manager now at all, since it has its own, and it's more easily accessible than either a proper hardware button or otherwise.

2) I can see whether BT/Wireless is on from the top bar. Either way i covered the power led with a silicon case, so even if it had status leds i would still cover them. Protection > Convenience.

3) The screen interface is really made for touch, and is also hardware accelerated on the HD. This does wonders on the perceived touch sensitivity.

4) It also has a soft-reset shortcut built-in, easily accessible in 2 clicks.

So, while a bit expensive at 30$ i think this software is really worth every penny of it. Give it a try and tell us whether you still think that the HD has as much shortcomings as you thought it did...
[Touch HD General] 4agze:
Well so far I am happy with the phone although a little dissapointed on the video side otherwise it is great.
[Touch HD General] sthapa:
Peter

thanks for your comments ,

Constant lag? Mine is as fast as I need, and that's quick.

the lag for me is annoying, especially while texting, ive tried many things to eradicate but no joy

Battery sucks? I have no problem going a full day using virtually everything, and talking a few hours on the phone. After that, I recharge it through my USB port and up-date everything via ActiveSync. Perfect!

If you are happy with charging every single day then good for you, my understanding was that Wm 6.1 was supposed to manage the battery better to give more hours. i think you will find others have also complained about the battery life, for me i expect more especially with what the phone costs.

Non-standard USB port? Oh, please. The standard USB port fits perfectly. I use a standard USB port to connect my computer to the HD.

It does not use a standard usb connection i think its called non proprietary. meaning that the same usb cable i use to charge my mp3 player cannot be used for the HTC thus i have to carry around different cables when i travel.

Flaky paint work? I haven't had a single flake of paint since I bought it four months ago. Perhaps you have a bad batch.

perhaps, unfortunately i cannot change the phone with orange as its not deemed defective.

Don't paint every HD with the same brush. Your complaints are irrelevant to me because they simply are not true when you apply them to my HD.

i havent painted the HD with the same brush, merely stated the problems i have come across with MY hd not yours.
[Touch HD General] sthapa:
I think what spartan was referring to is the fact that the iphone is locked (unless you JB it) They control what you can and can't have whereas WM you are free to have anything you like.

There are millions of apps/games/etc for WM phones so all you need do is search on forums like this and on the net to get what you want. HTC don't need get any permission because ultimately they don't control the phone. It's up to you to install what you want. HTC are in the business of providing phones not the 3rd party programs you run on them.

As regards the thread: I'm very happy with my HD. I'm not a camera user so this aspect of the phone has never bothered me, I just look at it as an extremely handy extra feature.

Soft reset - just install a program as has been said

SD card - Not needed to swap the 8Gb card as yet and can't see any real instances where I'd be constantly needing to swap it with any frequency.

Dpad - never used it on my trinity so not missed it on the HD

Battery life is amazing - I have watched all 3 Pirates of the Caribbean films on 1 charged battery (that was one hell of a long day waiting round for people i can tell you!)

After about 2 months of constant (reasonably heavy) use there are no visible marks or scratches on the phone and people are constantly amazed at it's looks.

So all in all I'm happy but perhaps I'm less fussy than most people here.

Thanks for response dao.

What i was trying to get across in my first post was the fact that HTC (or anyone else) havent made acquiring apps as easy as the iphone or andriod or even nokia.

i for one dont have the time to search the internet for apps, read the associated release notes, install the app and hope its stable with fingers crossed that i dont need to perform a hard reset to undo any damage.

Having seen first hand how these app stores work, i think HTC, microsoft or any other big software vendor have missed a big opportunity to compete for market share with apple and google.

with over a billion software sold for the iphone, im worried WM will die out and the only other alternative will be android in the mobile market
[Touch HD General] timbohere:
I'm newish to this and no spring chicken either. I still have an Axim 51v and since reading this and other groups, I upgraded it to wm 6.1 and it transformed it. However it does not have internal gps which HD does. When I got mine out of the box the internal gps was so poor I used a bluetooth GPS. I have since flashed using many ROMs all of which dramatically improved the gps and other functions. For my money the Touch HD is the best all round bit of equipment I have. I use gps a lot both on the ground and in the air and using Miri's 6.5 v10 premium it is the dog's bol***ks and that is the opinion of a lot of aviators I show it to. Just my humble opinion
[Touch HD General] dao:
Slightly off topic but I'm beginning to think that the battery issue is due to the 3G connection.

I have just gone 2 days now without charging and I'm just under 50% as I type. Not much you may think but when you consider I've watched 'Have I Got A Little Bit More News For You' via BBC iplayer had 78 minutes worth of calls in and just under an hour of calls out. WiFi has been on for about 5 hours last night and I have been editing an Excel file on and off for about the same time I don't think that's bad.

The only thing I don't use is the 3G connection (I've turned it off). I don't need to use it as I'm around a WiFi connection a lot and long ago I saw how much battery it can save me.

There is an argument that you should be able to have everything for the price of the phone and i suppose it's right but it depends on your point of view. As 3G goes, I don't need it so I gain battery life at it's cost.

The question you have to ask yourself is are you willing to make small sacrifices like this to get what you want
[Touch HD General] dao:
This is the kind of argument which started way back with Macs and PC's and look how that one played out.

You do get places like http://www.handango.com which i suppose is similar to the istore (though I do admit I have never had experience of the apple store or installing apps on the iphone - had an iphone for about a day and didn't like it at all). All the apps on hanago will be tested and won't break your phone

As regards HTC providing software, you're dealing with 2 different types of company with Apple and HTC just like Mac's and PC's with HTC being the hardware provider and Apple being everything.
[Touch HD General] eaglesteve:
I was 1000% happy with HD...until I bought myself an iPhone, and have never looked back since.

Even without waiting for June, with my iPhone jailbroken, I can already multitask, cut and paste, shoot videos, do MMS, have an excellent spreadsheet application....

The interface, responsiveness, stability, and responsiveness are simply class above any winmo devices I've used.

The third party applications are so much better on iPhone than on winmo platform now, whether it is camera software, photo editing software, finance, and even productivity software. The only area where I find it disappointing is the lack of GPS navigation.

After tasting the goodness of iPhone, I can no longer bring myself to using my HD, other than using it only as a GPS navigation device.

To really enjoy iPhone, one does have to be willing and able to learn things such as jailbreaking, and to find out how to install applications from sources other than applestore.
[Touch HD General] mallman:
Just a comment on your battery and 3g. Yes, I agree because I am in US and i don't get 3g and my batter lasts a looong time. I don't have to charge it every day :) which for the amount i use my device is a looong time. 3g technology has to progress to where it is more battery friendly before i will even want it. That is just my opinion though. If i could get 3g it would be disabled
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
LOL, don't tell me this is gonna turn into another iphone vs HD thread!!! I miss your long posts mate!!
[Touch HD General] cocoaju:
Love my HD!

Things that could be improved:

1. Better screen colours (don't know if its contrained by WM OS), currently only 65K. How about 16million?

2. TF3D updates, why can't HTC provide TF3D updates for older phones? Like I would like to use the newer version of TF3D on my HD. This is no 3rd party software and I think HTC should give us more support in this area.

3. Thread messaging is annoying when you can't see what you are typing when the page is full. Even when I close and re-open the keyboard. (This may be a WM 6.1 bug)

The rest I can live with. I have nice Capdase silicon cover, so my paint job is still in great condition. It has never been laggish, maybe you need to update it. HTC does have an update for slow response on typing messages. I don't need to change my memory card all the time, when I need to access it, all I do is plug it in my computer and use my phone as an external harddrive. I also have a soft reset app to help me restart it. The camera is a bit weak but I don't take photos with it, its just a like to have option. I usually take photos with my Canon EOS camera which is miles better than any phone camera.

Watching movies is a charm. You need to tweak the movie a bit by re-encoding it to a fomat that your WM player can run on (WM is built with an graphics accelerator). A member has uploaded an HD encoder here in this forum. It works perfectly. I can watch movies in native resolution (800x480). There is also a SD Tuner to tweak the speed of reading your SD card. Oh yeah, you have to make sure you have a fast Micro SD Card, a class 6 (the one that came with your HD) will do fine. Get a 32GB class 6 Micro SD Card, that should be more than you need.
[Touch HD General] stoolzo:
expectations

I think everyone was a little idsapointed by this phone as we all made the mistake of believing the HTC hype yet again, how stupid we all are.

A word about XDA Dev - a lot of people would be lost without this, however the forum needs a good overhaul to make information easir to get at. The serch is sketchy at best. We need more categories and the main info page updating more often.

However I shouldnt complain as everyone here is a volunteer and I give a big thanks to everyone who has contributed to all DEV aspects.

Shame about Andriod though, hoped it would be an easir ports, I think we should lay this to rest as I dont think it will happen on the HD.
[Touch HD General] Wiggz:
seconded...I too think there should be slightly more forums and sub forums to maintain distinction.

And second the good work already being done.
[Touch HD General] cocoaju:
Hmmm... I was never disappointed with this phone. Yes, without our developers here, the phone will be hard to use. But then again, I bought this phone knowing the amount of help I can get outside of HTC and Microsoft. SO yes, a big around of applause to them.

I am sure there are faults in other brands as well. There is never a perfect phone. We chose WM because we believe it's a more of a hardcore phone where programmers and developers can tweak and play with the phone. Just like why hardcore users chose PC or Linux instead of Macs.
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
Why not point your proposals, views and ideas directly at XDA? The more people who request this, the more likely it's implemented into XDA
[Touch HD General] arghness:
I hope you're not talking about the "Download!" application. That "store" is a small collection of apps in seemingly random categories with misleading descriptions.

If you're talking about "Ovi Store" (their equivalent of Windows Marketplace or the iPhone App Store), then it's not available yet, afaik.
[Touch HD General] sthapa:
i was talking generally, the fact that at least there is an official section for it.
[Touch HD General] ZekeWolf:
I use at least 3 different chargers with my HD, all of them are non-standard, normal mini-USB chargers. One is originally for my bluetooth headset, and the other is for my camera. The third one is a multi-charger, that is supposed to work with a lot of different phones (though, HTC:s are not mentioned).

I also use normal USB - miniUSB cables between my computer and HD -- works like a charm.

So, I really haven't run into your problem.

I agree that there are a lot of cons with the phone as is out of box, but flash a nice, tweaked ROM and install some problem solvers -- and you have a really nice Phone.

There is non such thing as an out-of-the-box perfect mobile phone. Period.

--- but xda-developers ROM:s, tips, and tricks moves your HD close to that!
[Touch HD General] henrik.dk:
I even don't have the screen protector.

Just struggled with select&copy in notepad running in HD.

If I pressed hard, I got popup menu. If I just touch it, nothing will be selected. Tried in Axim x51v, worked as expected.

Does touch HD represent touch HARD?

The trick in the link doesn't work. Maybe I should flash to official rom first.
[Touch HD General] ZekeWolf:
Strange, must be a hardware problem. I use my HD with my fingers/nails. Don't have to press, just touch.

Though, iPhone is more sensitive, but then again - it has a completely different type of screen.
[Touch HD General] henrik.dk:
Indeed the response to the finger touch on big button seems quite OK.

Would you please also try to select&paste on a notepad to see how difficult it is? Thanks.

It is by far the best phone available in the market.

I have the chance to return it to the store. I would like to see the possibility to keep it.
[Touch HD General] ZekeWolf:
I have no problem with selecting / copy / paste text.

Normally, the text is quite small though, so I use the pen. But it is even possible to select text with the finger.
[Touch HD General] kamilyo:
Not happy with the phone because it stopped working properly. USB port problems... anyways in some time from now I will be able to tell you if I am happy with HTC guarantee service. As of now waiting for info on my phone repair status day 2.
[Touch HD General] PeterGuru:
Standard Mini USB WORKS!!!

Non-standard USB port? Oh, please. The standard USB port fits perfectly. I use a standard USB port to connect my computer to the HD.

It does not use a standard usb connection i think its called non proprietary. meaning that the same usb cable i use to charge my mp3 player cannot be used for the HTC thus i have to carry around different cables when i travel.

YES, YES, YES, it CAN use a standard mini USB connector. I use a standard connector ALL THE TIME when connecting my phone to my computer, or to any other computer for that matter.

Peter
[Touch HD General] cocoaju:
I agree as well. I use my Nintendo DS Lite's charger to charge my phone, as well as the car charger and the data cable that came with my DS Lite. So any mini USB cable will work.