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[G1 Android Development] B-Eazy:
EDIT: I see you figure it out

Thats weird. I would double check the battery, some batteries do weird things to your phone when they crap out. Did you check if anyone running superhero had the same prob? If you get it running I would clear my cache and other browser crap
[G1 Android Development] maxisma:
If you get into recovery, just flash a rom named to update.zip.
[G1 Android Development] taylorb1:
I'm still in the same spot on getting NO response... Once my new G1 comes in, I am going to try putting the fresh battery in the older G1, and see if maybe the battery just truly died. I'll come back once I know something...
[G1 Android Development] B-Eazy:
If you got your phone from tmobile exchanges its not gonna come with a battery or a back cover. Best bet is going to a tmobile and telling them you think your battery died and wanted to check it
[G1 Android Development] maruutah:
Don't know of a program myself, but I went to the tmob store near me and talked to the guy that I usually go to for anything dealing with my service or phone, what have you, and told him that same story, literally. Got the OTA update (though, my last G1, the one I got replaced for dead pixels, was fully rooted and had apps2sd and all that jazz) but the replacement was bunk from the get go.

It seems to be happening to a few people honestly, and tmob does know of this. He said a few people have had the same issue, the phone rebooting itseld mid-update, thus bricking it. He even tried home/cam+power and got nothing as well. Luckily since the phone was a replacement that went terribly wrong within less than a day after getting it, they rushed me a new one ^-^ Should get it tomorrow.

You should just stop by a tmob store and get a replacement, see if they can do it in-store, the only reason he couldn't for me is because it was already a replacement phone, their policies for my situation wouldn't let him swap in-store. But yes, you should be okay if you go in and complain nicely a little ^-^ Try to get a manager, usually the low level staff can't do much but iterate the policies and tell you to mail your phone in for replacement :(
[G1 Android Development] TylerKinkade:
This is extremely infuriating. :confused:

The convoluted versions, roms, spl, radio versions, and builds are really starting to irritate me because there is no defined guide and stuff continues to change. I have to travel to five different sites just to get the right info for a certain rom/build then this happens.

I'm by no means a rookie when it comes to this kind of stuff, and I understand that the community is thriving, but can someone please make this more clear.

All I did Was flash the (What I thought to be) latest radio.

And here we go! a bricked phone. No recovery screen, no bootloader screen, and no connectivity between the phone and my PC.

Totally Bummed.
[G1 Android Development] mrcampliftl2005:
Could I get my bricked G1 replaced if a friend gave it 2 me...
[G1 Android Development] B-Eazy:
Unlikely that a radio update (that went uninterrupted) bricked your phone but anythings possible. If you still have the zip file on your computer then look thru it , its prob the new spl. Maybe you confused them?

Are you sure it is bricked???? What happened to it?
[G1 Android Development] darcjrt:
PLS guys I need to know if I'm going from a custom ROM WITH latest radio and spl, if I flash the RC29 Image will It brick my G1??
[G1 Android Development] imnothimm:
It all depends on if you have the stock/ HardSPL or the new one from HAYKURO

IF YOU HAVE THE NEW SPLE FROM HAYKURO.. DO NOT FLASH DREAIMG.NBH FILE IT WILL ALSO INSTALL THE OLD RADIO AND THUS WILL BRICK YOUR PHONE.........

It is an easy fix though... just Re-Flash the HardSPLhttp://koushikdutta.blurryfox.com/G1RootWalkthrough/HardSPL/update.zip

Do that ^^^^^^ and you can re-Flash the DREAIMG.nbh (RC29) image with no problems
[G1 Android Development] darcjrt:
Thanks a lot. So it is safe to go from the latest .2005 spl to the HardSPL keeping the latest radio. Then from there, flash the image.

Thanks a lot!!!
[G1 Android Development] duan19:
Blank SD Card

ok i was playing with Ak-47 app on The dudes cupcake then next thing you know it says Blank sd card now I cant use any apps and under settings<SD card & storage it says total space and availalable space unavailable and unmount sd card. When I go to notifications bar where it says Blank SD card it suggest to re format sd card....What should I do? even when I mount onto pc under removable **** it suggest to reformat. What should I do? I dont wanna brick my phone. Also it wont let me see any files under removable disk.
[G1 Android Development] funbacon:
I use SPL 2005, Roger build from Soulife, trying update 1.1 radio and now I have a brick :((

How can I repair my phone ? 2005 SPL is really suck :((. I have only one phone :(
[G1 Android Development] imnothimm:
As of right now the only hope you have is to call T-Mobile and tell them it was updating now it just stopped working... They'll offer to send you a new one via ups 3 day select for free or 20 dollars for overnight...

By flashing the old radio with the new SPL you bricked your phone

^^^^^^^This has been discussed many times before^^^^^^^^^^^
[G1 Android Development] lordlegion1985:
Bricked phone replaced.

Good afternoon all i was one of the unlucky ones who bricked my phone i know i should of read threw everything :( (note do not flash under the influence of alcohol)

I am on a Tmobile contract with the G1 in the UK i took my phone into tmobile and fed them a few fibs "i receided an update a week ago or so since then my phone was crashing a lot then it hung and i did a battery pull it never recovered from it" for extra value i stuck a corrupted 2gig SD card in and said this happened aswell.

They said they would send it off for repair 4 days later i get a text saying my repair was complete and ready to collect.

Picked my phone up and hay presto they replaced the whole main PCB and appologised for any inconviniance.

They oviously was unable to check anything firstly the main splash screen it was getting stuck on was not the default one for the UK G1 it was the splash screen for the US g1 totally different they didnt pick up on this also had a second splash screen that didnt show but said "HACKED" right accross the bottom of it ha they oviously was never able to see this either.

anyway i suggest anyone with a G1 on contract and bricked to just take it to Tmob for repair they did mine no questions asked maybe i was lucky.

As for the people who bricked there phone who have bought it out right :( i hope for s solution soon.
[G1 Android Development] firiel:
OK so I bricked it, Am from greece bought it from US through ebay. What should I do?

A. Cry and give it a funeral

B. Get it to HTC

C. Wait for a ressurection

D
[G1 Android Development] firiel:
OK so I bricked it, Am from greece bought it from US through ebay. What should I do?

A. Cry and give it a funeral

B. Get it to HTC

C. Wait for a ressurection

D. Send it back to t-mobile US (how???)
[G1 Android Development] ivanmmj:
So to avoid reading every possible thread in the forum about this:

1. Is it 100% confirmed that if I flash the radio first, the SPL will NOT brick my phone if I have the correct board? Guaranteed?

2. You guys DO have access to the SPL screen on bricked phones but the phone will not flash any nbh from there.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thx1200:
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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] the0ne:
Wonderfull app , thanks for sharing it with us

Have added a little something to the Tip Jar :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] abumhmmd1:
THANKs

what about W5 , any chance to work in it ??
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thx1200:
Do you mean WM5? give it a try. I wasn't sure because I developed the app in Studio 2008 and targetted my device (WM6.1) but if it works, let me know and I'll update the top post.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thx1200:
How it works

Added an explanation of how MS3T works to the top post. I'm hoping this might inspire others to dig into MS3's window messages and find some other cool things we can do with it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MaxLaw843:
Work on WM 6.1 on a Palm Treo Pro?

Since the Palm Treo Pro (running WM 6.1) was made by HTC, I never know whether or not the software here on this site will work on it. Will it? :confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gil@spoontools.com:
Palm Treo Pro

Of course it will!

Why do you think it shouldn't work?

The important thing is usually the OS, not the exact device (unless it's something specific like TouchFlo3D which you probably don't have...)

(I want a Treo Pro as well...:( )
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dragonfly1113:
Where do you go to assign the hardware key for this program?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MaxLaw843:
Palm Treo Pro

Why would I think it would not work? I don't know why some of the software wants me to pick between QVGA or some other resolution. At times, the 320 x 320 is a problem, as the software is too big (or too small) for the screen.

I am soooooooo glad that I found Mobile Shell (and really like their version 3), as I moved from a Palm OS to WM---ycch! Like my Treo Pro (unlocked GSM on T-mobile network), so you can't have it :p Until they come out with the Palm Pre in an unlocked GSM with the WebOS. Yummmm...... Then we can talk! :rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thx1200:
MobileShell 3 Toggler relies on other apps (or the OS itself) to map its functions to keys. The first place to look is under Settings then Buttons. If you are using a newer HTC device, that's usually a pretty sparse menu. lol. I personally use AE Button Plus to remap buttons to functions. If you use AE, buy it! The author doesn't get enough monetary love for such a freaking awesome app. :-)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thx1200:
There is no good reason why it shouldn't, but that doesn't mean anything. Download it and try it. If it doesn't work, uninstall it. lol
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tony.wheeler:
Smart Toggle Issue?

:) Thank you for this (and highlighting it to me from Spb forum). I find the toggle works exactly as designed on my Kaiser - but I am not sure that the smart toggle is correct for me.

It will not at all cycle between the 2 home screens. The behaviour I see is that whenever I press this Smart Toggle (assigned to a physical button) I am taken to the HTC Manilla Home: from within Manilla anywhere else, and also from anywhere in Spb Mobile Shell.

BTW - I am using the Kaiser ROM PDA Corner Xv3 and the latest Spb MS3 (3.0.1 Beta 1 (build 6456))

PS - have you considered a three-way toggler to cycle between Spb Home, Manilla Home and the Today screen? This would merge your Touch Flow Detacher and Mobile Shell Toggler efforts and seems a logical next step unless a problem.

Regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thx1200:
First, toggling between the three would be cool, but I just don't have time to work on it. All the source code is available for both projects. If somebody implements this, just give me a little credit! I won't say "no" but I have no plans right now. As much eye candy as TouchFlo 3D was, it just wasn't that useful to me. I find MS3 incredibly useful, even if it's not quite as much eye candy as TouchFlo. So I'm pretty sure I'm not going to use TouchFlo anymore. But never say never!

The problem you are facing with Smart Toggle is likely because MS3T doesn't know to look for TouchFlo as the top window. It only looks for the "classic" Today screen. I can add a feature to consider the TouchFlo screen the "Today" screen. That should fix it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] karatche:
tf3d not loading

I'm running wm6.1 / Arrupenthals rom latest V5.9 with SPB 3.0 . After installing I can toggle to Today screen but even though I have TF3D checked in today settings it will not load when it switches from spb to tf3d. It jsut hangs on the HTC icon and tf3d does not load. any ideas?

ps - if I stop spb (shut down- kill program) tf3d loads.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] samer_salbad:
MB3 starts at the begining,,I dont want to

I insatalled MS3 on my X1 but I restarted it, it always started at the begining but I don't want to...could anyone tell me how to disable to start in todays screen ,,I just need the other application start not MB3 and sometimes it stopped working and I should restart it,,I dont know why..plz somebody help me...thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] minglee:
Thank You

Many thanks for the MS3 toggler. I also use your TouchFLO Detacher.

I am also interested in the "feature to consider the TouchFlo screen as the "Today" screen".

Hope we can have this brilliant feature soon.

Thanks again.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kuokhong:
okay, so i have downloaded the file, copied into my touch hd, and installed it. and.. whats next? it just says everything installed successfully but whats next? how do I set or toggle the screen? sorry for noob question.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mbernstein:
Working great on my Kaiser with MS 3 beta 3, PP+. Smart Toggle great. If it does not have any issue in the next few days, I will contribute. That was my biggest issue with MS 3 (Although I liked that I could get to phone contacts from anywhere just doing the "L" swipe in MS 2 - actually only thing I used in MS2 -... but nothing is perfect), new "show today" widget is an advancement from SPB, but your solution is the best for hardware buttoned phones as the kaiser.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mbernstein:
Working great. Made MS 3 perfect. Dropped you a beer, thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] PiperD:
Any way to go back to last-used MS3 screen?

I've got MS3 on a WM5 TyTN. Although I can't get your programs to run (could be a certificate issue with WM5, where a required trusted root isn't present...?) I put together a quick program using SendMessage() and the parms you specified in the first post, to see if I could bring MS3 to the front.

While this does work, what I was hoping is that it would bring MS3 to the front and display the last screen I was working in. For me it's a continuity thing, but it also makes some tasks more simple like using MS3's web favorites to view pages in IE Mobile.

Do you have any idea if there's a message that can be sent to SpbNow_MainWindow to just bring it to the front but not jump back to the Now screen?

Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thx1200:
I don't know of any code to do that, but if you discover one, please post it and I will add it to my top post for those interested.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] astro33:
MB3 starts at the begining,,I dont want to

I am having the same problem, MS3 start but TF3D hang when starting up...any bro out there mind help to solve this matter... thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TouchPro9in:
tf3d not loading

i installed the MS3 and the MS Toggler,but it is not loading the tf3d along with the spb...it hangs with the HTC logo....kindly help...sos:confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kaju:
Finally works!! I HAVE MANAGED TO RUN TOUCHFLO 3D AND SPB MOBILE SHELL 2 all at the same time!!

You can see the steps here: http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/ne...3-touchflo-3d-classic-today-all-together.html

After, you have to delete MS3 from startup (windows\startup\) to prevent MS3 from booting on startup. This configuration only works if TF3D begins the first. Then, do a soft reset.

Enjoy!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dashad:
hey, is it possible to put﻿ the spb carousel button (or a link) to the touchflo 3d screen ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] johnhendo:
Working at last

THANKS A LOT MATE......:)

I was also very confused by the instructions given in the original post. It kept saying to delete or rename the MobileShell file. The problem I had was that I couldn't even delete or rename this file. There was no mention of doing this in the windows\startup menu.

Checked out your link and together with your instructions - to delete MS3 from startup (windows\startup\) - I finally got it to work.

The reason I need to be able to switch between the two is that I have a HTC Touch HD from Telstra. I need the Telstra part (TouchFlo) to Surf the Internet etc and use SPBMS3 for all my other stuff. (Much more user friendly than the Telstra Interface)

Thanks again.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mbernstein:
I like this so much in my Kaiser that I made a donation. I would like to know if this can be used in XPeria X1 with stock ROM with Panels.

Anyone has any input?

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thx1200:
I seem to remember somebody having problems doing that, but I'm not sure. I guess give it a try and let us know! Unfortunately, I don't have a X1 to test with.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mbernstein:
I'm exploring the possibility of buying the coming X2. When (if) I do so in a few months, I'll install and will let you know if it works.

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CSX321:
No longer seems to work with the new MS 3.5 that came out today.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kirkus:
+1

Toggle program does not work with MobileShell 3.5
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mbernstein:
Hey thx1200,

Do you plan to update it? This is a major feature. I will consider not upgrading to 3.5 if there is no toggle.

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thx1200:
I do plan to update it. I've been busy as of late and haven't even had a chance to look at 3.5 yet. Once I download it (maybe this weekend) I should have an update out shortly. I'm sure there's just some different window class name or something. It was previously called "manilla" and they may have changed it since that's also the window class for TouchFlo 3D. But not sure. Won't know until I download it and dig into the window messages.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dajhoony:
All german fans could see here a german test and tutorial about SPB Mobile Shell 3.5:

http://fingerfriendlyappz.wordpress.com/2009/10/02/spb-mobile-shell-3-5-new/

Have fun with it and leave some comments.

greetz, da Jhoony
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thx1200:
MS3Toggler works fine with 3.5. I found that after installing 3.5, the links that the MS3T creates in the MS3 folder get messed up, but if you just reinstall MS3T, it all works fine. Going to update the top post.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] travis:
Many thanks.

Will give it a go.

EDIT

You're correct it's working but no longer works with this - http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3789383&postcount=1509 - setup.

Appreciate it's not your problem but any help/advice would be greatly appreciated.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mbernstein:
So it was the same as with the upgrade to MS 3.1. Again, this is great. When MSkip upgrades his widgets, I will go to MS 3.5 and with everything working I'll give another contribution.

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ewingr:
I am not finding this to be the case. If I am on the Today screen it takes me back to SPBMSH3, but if in SPBMSH3, it does not take me to the Today screen.

I've tried SMart Toggler, and Toggler. I have uninstalled, and reinstalled, and I just downloaded the current version (in case mine was old), and same results.

I'm on a Tilt; and I am using MSkip's Ultimate Widgets, fairly recent set, if this makes any difference.

[EDIT]

I am using AE Button Plus with this.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thx1200:
I use Toggle every day on my HTC Touch Pro, so there's a very good chance the issue you are experiencing is either device specific or MSkip specific (I'm not currently using any mods since installing 3.5).

Can you backup and test with a fresh install (no MSkip)? If that doesn't help, I'll need you to dig into the MS3 process using DotFred's task manager and post some info.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mbernstein:
I use SPB MS 3.5 with MSKip mods. Smart Toggler does not work either with AE Buttons and Pocket Plus. Nevertheless, the toggler shoertcuts are still invaluable as I set AE Buttons/Windows Button to: 1 click MS 3.5 / 2 clicks Show Today. A different approach, but it works well. Actually, although I don't have a choice now, I don't know which arrangement I prefer as both are equally good! :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thx1200:
I haven't used any mods, so I haven't seen this. Does the regular Toggle work? Is it only Smart Toggle that doesn't work?

I would love to fix this, but I don't really want to install any mods yet. I'm loving 3.5 as is so much. Plus it will make upgrading easier next time. lol.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wayneywoo:
Hi,

Could you please explain what toggler shortcuts you are referring to? I use AEB and would like to set the home button to toggle just how you have it, 1 click... / 2 clicks...

Thanks :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mbernstein:
How does regular Toggle should work? (never used, only smart toggle)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mbernstein:
Depends on your device. I have a Kaiser, thus several Buttons. After installing TOGGLE, I set the "Windows" key to one click "RUN PROGRAM", then you go to Mobile Shell where you now will find Toggle's shortcuts set "Show SPB Mobile Shell.lnk", do the same for 2 clicks and set to "show today.lnk". That should do it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thx1200:
Regular toggle - When pressed will immediately switch from either Today to MS3 or MS3 to Today.

Smart toggle - Will only toggle if you are ON the today/MS3 screen. if you are in another app, it will take you back to whatever screen you left off on (today or MS3).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mbernstein:
No, both Smart and Regular Toggle go to Mobile Shell only. They never go to Today, no matter how many times you press the button. Hope this helps.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ewingr:
Hi. I'll try to get a test done on this. Been pretty busy. It may be a few days. In the meantime, I may try what the posters above have done.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thx1200:
That is very interesting. If it never goes Today, then that means one of two things:

MS3T is not finding the MS3 window handle (called "Manila" -- confusingly the same as TouchFlo 3D) that is associated with the process called MobileShell.exe (case sensitive!) -- OR -- the "IsWindowVisible()" function call is, for some reason, always telling MS3T that the afforementioned window is not visible.

Both of these scenarios can be examined using DotFred's task manager and examining properties of the MobileShell.exe process.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mbernstein:
Kind of difficult to understand... Anyway, for me it is really fine the way it is now. Thanks a lot.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] warnold007:
htc hd2 sense 2.5

can anyone confirm if this works in the htc hd2?

i can seem to get it to work.

i put the shortcuts as quicklinks in the sense home screen and it doesn't toggle to spb mobile shell.

i'm really looking for something like this... please help.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DMAlex:
As far as I know, it never worked. I would recommend you Shell TF3D Titanium Switcher. It works nice on HD2!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thx1200:
I would be happy to extend it to work in such a scenario, but I don't have a HD2 to test with to figure it out. The source code is available on CodePlex so if a developer comes along and wants to help me make it work under other situations, I'm happy to help.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Ricky Morris II:
SPB + CHT running at the same time

Hey I'm new to this just recently got the HD2 and wanted to change the theme so i originally downloaded CHT and was using it when i found out bout SPB mobile shell and wanted to give it a run was a lil worried i would lose my CHT setup but was willing to take a chance, Luckily i found that there is a SPB/HTC Sense toggle switch that once activated can take me from my SPB set up back to what i had set up on CHT these apps are great where can i find some more themes!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Antzor:
http://hacknmod.com/hack/pov-ihone-app-writes-messages-in-midair/

Might be worth a try making for windows mobile, just an interesting thing I found :p
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] criminalogic:
still wouldn't get an iphone.. lol hope they drop there phones using that app :D