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[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Juggles:
Bettery Life!

Hi Guys.. Wel 4 days in, and still on my first full charge!

According to the power screen, I have used

58 hours 25 minutes standby

Talktime 2 hours 22 minutes

device usage 3 hours 24 minutes

And stil have 4 bars left!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] chris10230:
how to say i think that htc have finally sorted out battery problems and have made a phone with a good battery life. Seems like ive been told!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] MartyH32:
Hay there what settings are you using, ie HSDPA on? screen brightness settings auto or minimal? how are you using your device?

Yay a HTC phone with good battery surely it cant be so lol
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] deechte:
My standby time always more or less equals the device usage time, so 50/50. I keep playing with it all day :) At the end of the day it's at app. 50% charge.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Juggles:
Settings

O have 3g on all day, as well as Exchange push mail, however i only get about 15 mails a day.

Screen is set to auto brightness. I have to admit i hate this rom, so am using it as a secondary device at the mo..
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Barff1984:
had it's first charge last night. Unplugged it at 7:30....now almost 11am.

it says

standby

2 hours 38 mins

talk time

0

Usage

1hour 28 minutes.

3 bars from the main power meter have already gone.

Brightness is set to auto and only recieve gprs from where i am at the moment.

I new it was too good to be true, look like there'll be a full charge tonight again.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] trinode:
I've never seen them use Li-Poly Batteries... The D2 Uses:-

Rechargeable Lithium-ion battery

Capacity: 1100 mAh
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] gkai:
yes, my mistake :) However, my point stand: battery capacity should be directly linked to its physical size and weight, given that the technology and materials used are the same (especially if you compare the batteries of a single manufacturer, like HTC). If not, it mean that the battery is not optimal and that a higher capacity battery battery of the same size is likely to come afterwards (from htc or other suppliers). That's why I was interested in the physical size of the TD2 battery compared to other devices...Well, with some luck I will know today, maybe a batch will arrive this afternoon in my favorite mobile shop and I will pick one ;-)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Barff1984:
After the first full charge and unplugging in the morning, mine lasted until the evening.

about the same as my D1.

I don't have bluetooth or wifi on ever.

So to be honest, with average use....it's still ****

Good job i bought myself a AA battery emergency charger for it as well
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] mayen:
Extend batterylife

Maybe not what we're looking for :rolleyes:, but it's a way to extend batterylife:

Just underclock your TD2 or other HTC-device:

Look here and here...

FYI: Overclocking is not possible (yet :cool:)!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] CWKJ:
@Juggles

Didn't expect to see you here, how's life? How's WmGurus?

So you have move to TD2.

How's it?

Good buy?

It's selling here from today in shops between SGD538 to SGD668. Maybe its a promo price.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Juggles:
Hey dude

I love it to bits! You can check out my review on Tracy & Matts Blog, http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2009/04/24/htc-touch-diamond2-review

as for wmgurus.. it sort of died a death i think! LOL
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] DaBountyHunter:
How you've managed to achieve this I'd like to know. As currently I have 2 bars remaining and I have the following listed:

19 hours 1 minute standby

Talk time 0 hours 2 minutes

Device Usage: 3 hours 25 minutes

since my last charge at 23:25pm Yesterday. It's now 21:53. I have had WiFi and 3G on most of the day mind you!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] eurofan:
7 DAYS on Standby within 1 full charge! (however without Sim Card in)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] obsydian:
GPRS

I was on holiday for 2 weeks so switched any data connections off, the battery would last at least 2-3 days and not be flat.

With data back on, its crap, whatever ROM or Radio :mad:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] ithehappy:
Ok,so here are my details.

The Full charge was given on 11th July @23:30

Standby time- 41 hrs 17 mins

Talk time- 0 hrs 22 mins

Device usage- 4 hrs 44 mins and after this I got 22% battery left.

So it's not that bad,but not good either.

BTW-How will I turn off the screen during a call(Automatically)? Anyone knows? Please help.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] frigorifix:
just press power ON/OFF ... it doesn't close the conversation and the display is stopped.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] tvrtim:
if you upgrade to the latest radio... you can dramatically increase battery life. Usually the chef of the cooked rom will advise on a particular radio. Just for example on my old polaris, stock I would get about a day maybe 2, just before I bought the TD2, I was getting 5-6 days!!!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] ithehappy:
^Is there any official ROM available? I don't think so.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] mccune:
Wow look at THIS! ;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] ithehappy:
My Stock ROM version is-1.43.720.1(51718) WWE

ROM Date-05/18/09

Radio Version-3.44.25.27A

Now is there any update than the ^ available? I didin't understand. Please tell me.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] mccune:
There is no update available for you device. But they are official ;)

Back on topic...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] sassan:
Thanks for info dude.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] georgeono:
thanks for the li-ion battery review
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Robredo:
I noticed a significant increase in battery life when I disabled the 3G altogether. I'm going to verify on a full charge but my current estimation is that it's at least a 50% increase :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] atan.ismail:
Yes. That is why I disable 3G when I travel.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] tanekki:
no wifi no bluetooth. hsdpa enabled. some google maps some browsing no texting or phone calls. msn and gyrator running most of the time. 6.5 hrs standby. 2.5 hrs usage. like 5% left. wtf?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] garethjknight:
I've not had chance to measure the performance in detail, but have to say it doesn't seem too good. one thing I have noticed is that the reported remaining battery figure can drop by 10% following a soft-reset. Anyone else noticed this?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] cottonpickers:
yup. mine does that
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] munrobasher:
Known software bug for which there was a supposed fix but not 100% how effective it is.

It doesn't help battery life, just reports it more accurately :-)

I've noticed that if I don't use my D2, battery life is great. Not as daft as it seems but the "play with it all the time" is wearing off so it's now much more reasonable use.

Also, ActiveSync & Google mail sync set to every two hours which has really helped.

Rob.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] garethjknight:
Thanks. Could you point me in the right. direction for this fix?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] tommaazz:
Hi all! Why i can"t see any info on battery time (standby and device usage...) on settings it is all on 0 and it says not aplicable?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] PseudoReal:
it is sometimes a little bit buggy!

You should charge it until the green light flashes, then it should start counting
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] luigug:
What are the instructions for disabling the connection 3g?

:confused:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] bambony:
quickest way is:

TouchFlo Settings Tab --> Communications --> Phone --> Band --> select GSM

Hope this helps

Tony
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] bambony:
My battery life has improved radically and I mean radically!

The 4 things that have changed:

Hard Reset

Swapped out old SIM for new SIM

Use GSM most of the time and switch on 3G when I need it

Installed S2L2 locking app

Bizarrely the most significant thing might actually be the SIM! I have read elsewhere on XDA-Dev that HTC support claim having the physical SIM contacts working effectively are critical to achieveing less battery consumption.

Go figure.

Of course it might be something else altogether but I thought I'd share.

I've gone from barely managing a single day without charging to comfortably having two days which I find totally agreeable.

Tony
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] luigug:
Thank so much!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] PseudoReal:
My battery lasts maximum 50hours, but this is with the following settings/usage

- 2G Mode only

- turning flight mode on over night (7hours)

- using the phone for total of 2,5 hours (Internet over Edge and WiFi, manual mail checks, weather, stocks)

- bt usually on

- calling about 30minutes

The battery life so to say really s***s, but I do not have a problem charging it every day.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] draguzet:
Last full charge: today, 7:30

Standby time: 11 hour 30 minute

Talk Time: 1 hour 26 minute

Device usage: 3 hour 10 minute

Battery level: 12% (red)

No wifi, no gps, no internet, no 3g or HSDPA, only phone calls.

This battery life is shame for HTC !!!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] o2fx:
My record is something like:

Standby time: ~80 hours

Talk time: ~1 hour 14 minutes

Device usage: 2 hours 50 minutes

And still 15% battery left!

(Wifi off, BT off, 3G on in good coverage area, auto weather updates, auto mailchecks)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] draguzet:
I write this to service, and told me to send device back, that this in not normal battery life.

I think HTC have placed fault devices on market ?

Do you have send TD2 to service ? Do you think this small battery life is normal for this device ?

I am disappointed with this :-(
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] luigug:
This battery life is very good, what range of time did you set for the weather and mail updates?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] draguzet:
Battery life with only 2 hour of talking and battery dead is ok ??

E-mail, and weather are set on 30 minute check, but no change even is turned off.

On my opinion phone that last only 2 hour of talking and battery are empty is not phone.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] draguzet:
This is my info about usage:

Last full charge: today, 7:30

Standby time: 11 hour 30 minute

Talk Time: 1 hour 26 minute

Device usage: 3 hour 10 minute

Battery level: 12% (red)

No wifi, no gps, no internet, no 3g or HSDPA, only phone calls.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Clound:
Share my reading here...not the best, but quite awful...

last full charge: yesterday 12PM,

today evening 6:30PM: 28% left....

so the charge is about to last a 36hrs estimated.

settings:

GSM all the way (signal: home = full, office = unstable)

I am using a GSM-only service...

few mins of talk,

5-8 text messages

playing device from time to time...

Device:

ROM: 1.40.707.1 (stock)

Radio: 4.47.25.09 (stock)

TF3D not running

Pocket plus running
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] o2fx:
I´ve had the device for about a month, and no, it hasn´t been serviced. Your battery life seems bad and if HTC says to send it in you should. My standby time is good because I don´t make many calls.

Weather, I think, is set to 2-3 hours something, 4 mail accounts is set to 1 hour checks.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] ruffer:
Last week bought d2 to my wife - without email, wifi and other stuff it can hardly last for 6 hours since full charge, I thought my raphael is draining battery, now i see i was so wrong %(
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] draguzet:
6 hours of which use ? Calls ?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] ruffer:
No, just idle. Will try to hardreset and see how it behaves with clean oem environment, might be some third party app is messing the cpu or memory %\ though there are only resco kbd, igo and reader.

UPD: Just found out that it was not completely idle, it was running ICQ client. But in standby mode (i.e. screen turned off). And taken from charger in the morning, it is screaming about low battery (<=10%) after lunch.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] luigug:
For me 3,5 days is a good battery life for a D2, with a short calling and usage time, but with automatic mail and weather updates, because I purchased this device 4 months ago and I have charged 1 or 2 times every days!

My daily use is as follows:

- 2-3 hours for internet connection

- approximately 1 hour of talking time

- 2-3 manual updates for mail, weather and feed rss.

:confused:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] draguzet:
1-2 times every days ?? :confused:

You have big internet use, this drain battery because use radio and screen, but I don't understand why calls drain so much battery and screen are turned off in call. What smart phone do in call different from normal phone, and normal phone last 5-6 hour of calling.

I test TD2 in call, 20 minute of call drain 10-15% of battery ?? :confused:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] luigug:
300-350 minutes for talking in 3G is a normal battery life for a modern smartphone.

In fact, some companies declare a value around this one ( for example HTC d2, iphone 3gs apple, Nokia n97 ...), but often the true value is lower.

10% of this value is 30 minutes that is very near to test of draguzet.

At last, I believe that the values of battery life we have correspond enough with those declared by HTC

:(
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] draguzet:
I use GSM, no 3G calls because 3G consume more power, that I believe with GSM usage with this battery can be better.

In daily usage i make 2 hour of calling (GSM) , and without GPS, Wifi, Bluetooth and internet usage battery is dead. This is much much less compared with 300-350 minutes of talking in HTC declaration.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] roush611:
The battery life seems to suck really bad... I will spend maybe an hour using the internet and talking on the phone and my battery will be at 50% what the heck. That is terrible. The memory usage always says 80% even when everything is closed, to me that is abnormal...?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] ArtieQ:
My battery life is actually really good. Bluetooth always off, WiFi only on when I need it (2-3 times a day at home, more when I'm on the run), I make maybe 15 SMS a day, MMS is deactivated. I'm always on GSM mode also.

RAM usage shows 43% and I've had my phone on since 6:00AM and it shows me 79% battery life left, with that said, GOOD BATTERY!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] draguzet:
Last night I disable auto disconnect of GPRS because someone told on forum that GPRS connection not drain battery if no data are transmitted.

From 95% in sleep mode with gprs connected are in 7 hour drained to 83%, no data transferred, all mail checking are turned off, no RSS, no push page.

TD2 are faulty device because low battery life and all owner's TD2 with that problem must send device to service, I will send in few Days.

Please inform on this thread if someone send device to service and what are conclusion.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] haranbh:
I don`t have this problem here..

I`ve charged my phone yesterday (until 11pm) and now its 11am, mine battery still on 99% with 3 calls (4min each) made.

I always get this battery usage with the ROM and Radio from my signature ;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] pa49:
Battery will take a few weeks to achieve max operating capacity.

Charge the phone whenever you can for as long as you can (mains or car/plane charger). Keep it on charge while you use it if possible.

Don't switch off at night (leave on charge), don't cycle the battery in any way, don't allow it to fall excessively low, install your apps to phone where possible (mem cards drain a lot of power when in use).

Lion batteries improve with use and the more the better they like it.

I thought the battery was useless when I first got the TD2 and I bought a spare battery. I have never used it yet.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] draguzet:
Yes, drop by 10% after soft reset is present in my device...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] r.p.2003@wp.pl:
Refreshing this topic :-)

I bought my D2 few weeks ago and battery life is terrible :-(

I have to charge it every day. Fully loaded at 7am at 7pm mostly has less then 40%. During this time there are ca 30min. calls, 3-5 times checked (manually) e-mails, weather is updated automatically every 1h, phone usage is about 2h, BT is on, WiFi is off.

I've got:

- stock ROM: 2.53.479.3

- radio: 4.49.25.91

- Manila: 2.5.20113030.0

I use Cookie Home Tab (1.8.5) and consider does CHT drain battery?

And additional thing - in WM6.5 with Manila 2.1 has such statistics for device:

when I updated ROM to newest version from HTC site (with Manila 2.5) such statistics are not available :-(

Is there any possibility to get them back? Or maybe there is additional software which I can install (I searched on this forum but found nothing :-( ).
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] tlsty:
my battery is a real crap! 1 day of "ultimate" usage. 3G, facebook, twitter, GPS from time to time, NO WiFi, weather updates... maybe 1.5 day, but only by a miracle...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] goki1:
same problem with my TD2
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] tlsty:
i only wonder where do vendors get such a wonderful times for STAND-BY and CALL-TIME. i can hardly imagine 3-5 hrs. of calling on the same battery with a single charge...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] DjangoBE:
I got 115hours, last day i fully loaded the phone was 1 may.

only made a half hour phonecall though and about 5 text messages a day, and some browsing in the morning, I did used the data cable to put some wallpapers and sync the phone, so it charged a little via the USB.

Can`t complain...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] chris10230:
WOW but somehow believable with no sim card... lol
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Juggles:
wifi is your killer there!

Wifi KILLS the battery so much!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Juggles:
End of the second day!

OK.. its says charging, because i had to attach it to make the screen shot.. however...

Not doing anything special!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Barff1984:
I think some people are claiming good battery without realising that when they plug into computer with usb, it actually charges as well without affecting the status info page.

Let's face it...the battery is still bad!

If you actually use the phone as it's intended, then getting a day out of it is actually near impossible.

Obviously the people that just charge it and keep in their pocket without using it because they have no friends, can get over a day with a full charge.

but if you actually use the phone normally, then you need to start thinking about a back up battery or one of those AA battery emergency charger kits

Should've got an iphone
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] adesonic:
Dear Barff1984, please go trouble people on macrumours or some such rather than make plainly ridiculous statements here. I generally use my TD2 heavily and get 2 days between charges no problem.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] DrM007:
I use it heavily - dozen calls and texts at work, camera, 5+ hours of wifi with moderate browsing and stuff. Some games too...

It's usually good for 24+ hours. I've had it for 10 days now. It only once lasted for two full days. I'm not surprised or dissapointed at all. I expect battery to last much longer when I stop "abusing" the thing so much.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] DaBountyHunter:
Thinking about it 5-6 hours heavy wifi (constant google maps) and 3G isn't too bad seeing as they've rated it for 5 hours talk time on 3G. I'm tempted to leave my phone alone on standby and see how long it will go. Will probably get the 7 days eurofan said. It's odd though I think the battery life is staggered as it is quick to drop the first 10 percent or so but when you go below 55% it takes a bit longer to drop it. I think this is because the CPU switches to a lower voltage (1.325v to 1.1v) when it gets to that point.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Edumac:
Well ...

Same use than with the D1...

- one hour wifi, +/- 15 min calls, +/- 25 incoming sms, by day...

With the TD1 one day batery life. First charge on TD2 it was 40 horas and 20% remaining.

For me better than TD1 :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Mr-Fly:
Charged: 6. May / 18:20

Standby: 35:50 h

Talk: 0:13 h

Use-Time: 2:56 h

21 % Left

Used GPS, WIFI and used Gprs/Edge when using the phone.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] incubus_v:
I cant understand how you get this lifetime!

1. Standbay 5:14 Usage: 2:34 (WiFi half time) down to 17%

2. Standbay 14:15 Usage: 0:38 (no WiFi) down to 34%

this would mean i would never get even in standby only one day life time! thats

untenable and i am close to return my device!

so is it luck with the batterie or what!?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] elmalote:
Im not even getting through the day with mine!! :eek:

Have Activesync syncing with Exchange with peak hours from 8-17 and off peak every 60 min.

Other than that I'm using it for 30 sms and 5-10 min talk and 10-20 min web surfing.

And 8 in the evening it runs dry..

My Nokia N95 8GB used to last 2-3 days with the exact same usage.

I've ordered an new battery to check if mine is defect..

I really hope so, because this is unacceptable..
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] DaBountyHunter:
im using the new 1.3 version of nueDynamicclock and it seems to be working quite well. ive been on 26% for a while now. ive made my cpu use level 0 voltage which is 1.1v a good balance here.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Smackhacker:
I am also trying this out now. What are your settings? There are so many variables...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] DaBountyHunter:
I'm running mine on Power Savings profile.

I've got it set to the following:

boot: 384Mhz @ Auto Voltage

Idle: 122.88Mhz @ Auto Voltage

Backlight Off: 122.88Mhz @ Auto Voltage

Suspend: 61.24Mhz @ Auto Voltage

Becareful with this app as I found when I set the suspend to the lowest setting 19.20Mhz @ 1.1v (Level 0) when my Diamond 2 went into suspend mode it wouldn't come out of it. Wouldn't even soft reset. Had to take battery out and put it back in and then it wouldn't boot so ended up hard resetting the device. The 2nd lowest setting of 61.24Mhz @ Auto Voltage seems safe however.

EDIT: Ok my battery is at 82% now I've put my phone on standby (power button) and am going to sleep now 12:30am. I'll let you know how much power is remaining when I wake up as a judge to see its power draw in suspend mode...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Oskala:
my battery is down to 20% now.

40 hours standby

5 hours use, including 3 hours talk time.

i think the battery is great :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] DaBountyHunter:
Ok so i over slept till 1130am but when i came to look at phone this morning I had 77% charge remaining! not bad huh? especially over almost 12 hours. Used my phone for a few mins (to write this as well) down to 73%.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Mr-Fly:
What tool did you use for the Power Savings Profile ?

regards Thorsten
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] DaBountyHunter:
nueDynamicClock v1.3 (apparently v1.0 might be the better tool to use according to some Touch HD users) You can find it here:

http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueDynamicClock.aspx
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] shakiraa:
some of the data from you guys really impressive.

mine cant only last for 12 hrs, need to charge it every night. my usage usually as below.

take note that i uncheck the auto charging when connect to PC.

do you guys think i should change my battery?

standy time: 9 hrs

talk time: 1 hr

phone usage: 3 hrs
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] tonyh0905:
:( I'm shocked by the figures i'm seeing quoted!! I don't use my TD2 heavily and yet I still need to charge it every night. I have wifi off, mainly bluetooth is off too, but HSDPA is on. Today has been a pretty average day and according to my power screen I have used:

14 hours 39 minutes standby

Talktime 0 hours 9 minutes

device usage 2 hours 45 minutes

and I'm down to 4 bars also!

How can there be such a huge variation in battery life??

Should I be contacting htc to complain? or is listening to audio books on Core Players a battery hog??

Frustrated TD2 user:confused: