yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobsbbq:
Not sure what the dependacies are but the light rom has a lot of stuff removed. When I have time I will try it. Trying now to get new releases out.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] RobRedbeard:
In that case how does removing the SD card affect the operation of the device if Manila is running? Again pocket full of SD cards here...

Rob
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobsbbq:
No once it is installed in is on your device just not in Windows. You can change or remove the sd card without problem.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobsbbq:
If nothing goes wrong I plan to release the 28014 tonight. I'm going to test it all day today. It feels a little bit slower to me than 28011. 21885 there is not any changes worth building a new ROM with. I will release a ver 15.5 with the 21884.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Wiggin:
hi, Bob.

Where can i find the "LIA V15.0 21884 MS version".

Thanx.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] michoob:
Have you seen this update concerning HTC messaging?

http://www.htc.com/fr/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=812&news_id=407

It's written: "this update delivers just that: fast and reliable SMS messaging."

Might be interesting...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jldiablo:
it is a joke, does not seem to fix anything...new problems being reported after installation
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobsbbq:
Sorry I forgot to put the link up. Check first post.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobsbbq:
NEW ROM's Online Enjoy!!

Please take your time to read the instructions and don't make a mistake like putting The position fix on 21884 build. Just skip Manila Mod 1
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] onai:
Does the preset work propely, if I have other folders in the stogare card? or should I format and place the extendir folder only?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] corwin_de_amber:
Lost in Asia V15.5_WM6.5 21884

This version is considerably better than previous LIA 15.0!

Much faster and smoother.

Thanks.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] RobRedbeard:
Bob:

I'm running 15.0 MS version now. Great work, but still a couple rough edges.

1 - Word isn't associated with .doc files??

2 - Why don't you include Windows Marketplace?

3 - Opera 10 seems to be Beta 1, but Beta 2 (much improved) has been out since Dec 1st. ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/1000b2/

4 - Mobile Shell is currently on version 3.5.2 not 3.5.0 since Dec 9th. http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/mobileshell/download.html

5 - Can e-mail and text notifications from the lock screen be redirected tmail.exe (tmail.exe -Text, etc)?

6 - I highly recommend setting \HKLM\Drivers\TouchPanel\PressureThreshold to FFFFFFFF

7 - Please make alarms show their a popup by default. Otherwise, it's a pain to find them. Also, 28011 has a KICK ASS snooze selection button!!!!

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Notifications\{15F11F90-8A5F-454c-89FC-BA9B7AAB0CAD}:Options = 7 or 13 (13 if you want flashing light too),

Also, MS builds don't need soft reset software or rotate screen software as these utilities are built into Mobile Shell.

Rob
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] chibajoe:
I think I figured it out: it has something to do with A2DP. On initial install, it works fine, but stops working after a reboot. If I disable A2DP for the headset, everything works again. Now that everything is working, I'm really enjoying the Lite ROM. Thanks.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] RobRedbeard:
Bluetooth Headset Optimzations

Hey Bob, it's me again. This time, I thought I'd post the optimizations for best quality on bluetooth headphones that I always make to your ROM. Maybe you could consider including them.

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\BtA2dpSnd]

"Priority256"=dword:0000003C

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\A2DP\Settings]

"SampleRate"=dword:0000BB80

"UseJointStereo"=dword:00000000

"MaxSupportedBitPool"=dword:00000064

"BitPool"=dword:0000003C

Older phones and headphones needed lower bitpools, etc. Also, true stereo is better than joint stereo.

Wish these settings I get very excellent playback on my Nokia BH-503 with both my Diamond2 and HD.

Rob
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] RobRedbeard:
Birthday bug

I'm sure this is an old bug, but... I've searched and only found people complaining of it without finding a solution.

2305x and 28xxx both seem to have a bug where when I sync my contacts from Outlook 2003 on my PC to my newly flashed phone, all the birthdays and anniversaries store a value 1 day earlier than their actual date (and the one displayed on the PC in Outlook).

Is there a fix for this?

Rob
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobsbbq:
There are no presets with this one. Always use the folder with the ROM. You can just let it overwrite the old one.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobsbbq:
1. Known problem fixed in new release. Or you can copy the Doc, Dotx template to your Template folder.

2Because this is a lite ROM for MS (you can add want you want)

3.Opera beta 2 had its problems as well and was not available to me in time to get in that release. It is included in new ROM

4.I'm not SPB and I don't provide their software this was one I found. See Readme and be Happy! Otherwise you can download the latest version from their site.

5.I don't know I will check.

6.Remember this ROM is built first for my personal use the way I like it. Then it has to satisfy all the other people, who all have different taste.

7.I will look in ti this one. Thanks.

8. The reset and rotate apps are installed through preset installer. You can disable what you don't want. And you can uninstall it at anytime.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mwelch16:
Bob, just saw the details on Extendir v2. Will test if you need it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] onai:
Hello Bob,

Tq v much, my first part of the question was answered,

my second question is not answered (abt placing the extendir in the sd card, should the sd card clean formatted, coz I've lot of files kept in the sd card, its really pain to remove them)

You are very active and supportive Bob in the thread.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobsbbq:
No you should not need to format just put the Extendir folder in the root of the Storage card.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] baarle:
rom sucks...sense doesnt start...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] RobRedbeard:
Good morning and thanks for the helpful information. Glad Opera b2 is in the newer builds. @#4 I'm just saying, through the power of a quick download you could update your cab to the latest version for future releases. They are generally 1-3 months between releases, so the pace isn't frantic.

As for lite and MS. Ms versions are for the userwho wants it all. I totally dig how you've solved people's variation inn needs by using preset installer - bravo! For me and my company the only software I must have installed is acrobat reader. I didn't see that in the presaet installer.

BTW if you use markeyt place - you should change your region in your control panel from en australia to en us -- you'll see about 200 more apps in the marketplace.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] corwin_de_amber:
Did you ever try to read explanation before flashing ROM :mad:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobsbbq:
He probably did not. :):)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobsbbq:
About spb no I can't I don't have a license or way to provide a free one for the new version if you get my drift. What I can do is provide the Free trial in Preset installer.

I will try to make Adobe Reader in to a cab and put it in Preset installer as well. That is one more I can take out of the ROM.

Office 10 I have tried and it does not work good installed after in a cab. Mainly because I have other items with shortcuts to the office folder like Calculater notes etc. So the folder icon get messed up.

I don't use Market Place but I will see if I can find the reg code to change the localization, Since I am American. But it will not be a factor to most people as there are somany people from different counties who will change to their region anyway.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ways:
can make one version without "ezinput"? i want use fingerkeyboard to replace that?

thanks a lot
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobsbbq:
No but you can install Finger keyboard and SIP changer and then use only Finger Keyboard.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
RTFM :rolleyes:

These people never will read and then they want to blame someone else when their device is bricked.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mwelch16:
BTW, I am trying the MS version now. I think this may be the one I stick with. It's so fast & has everything I want, like the HTC dialer and Showcase (which is working good so far).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] FrEcP:
Hi,

im on v15 21xxx atm.

I know you build it for you're personal use but is there any chance we get the old ezinput back? in former versions it was possible to change language but now its just eng and thai.

It really is annoying to type on an eng keyboard cause word completition / prediction works wrong and i always miss-type in SMS...

another thing about wm6.5:

on my old hima device i also got wm6.5 (very early version) - if an alarm is triggered and the device is locked - there is an message on the (new wm6.5) lockscreen with 2 sliders to ignore or dismiss. Where are those gone in our builds for HD?

Here i have to unlock the device, tap top bar to get to (the horrible slow) notification center, tap on the alarm reminder and then can dissmiss it. Takes "ages" to silence alarms this way....

greetings

FrEcP
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] RobRedbeard:
@SPB - There is no problem with that. The link that I pointed you to is the download for the trial. Even for those of us who have paid for SPB Mobile Shell, the upgrade is the same download. So the version that I pointed you to is the same as what you are currently using. We as users, whether we use your ROM or not, are always required to input our registration keys to register it. But the 3.5.2 that I pointed to is just like the 3.5.0 you are using, except newer -- a trial that can be registered by purchasing users. By including the newer cab you just include the latest 20 day trial. $25 for SPB Mobile shell is a steal. It basically gives your windows phone the same interface coolness that android phones have.

@taking stuff out of the ROM. There is little point to this if users plan to use those apps. Our phones have a TON of unused space and this is NOT winmo 2003. Free space on the phone does not make it faster. Storage memory no longer equates to RAM as it did in early mobile devices. There is little to no point to having hundreds of megs of free space. The only concern for lite ROMS is about including SERVICES or applications that install themselves as such. I have never, even with the 20+ apps that I install, gotten within 100 megs of free space on my ROM. It's about reducing unnecessary services, not unnecessary used ROM space -- that doesn't affect anything.

@Market place and Reg region -- I know there are many users from different regions -- Office 10 can be installed through the marketplace.. The marketplace remembers which apps you installed before and will offer to reinstall all of them for you when you log in from a new phone (or a newly flashed phone). This is currently the best way to get Skyfire, Office Mobile, Metric Imperial Converter, AP News, Windows Live Messenger (not yet available in cab form, your ROM has a very old version, compared to the Marketplace), MySpace app, Facebook App, etc etc etc. There are now a few hundred apps on it, and it remembers which ones you installed. It's getting nicer by the week. Marketplace does not install a service, and uses only like 200K or so of space, and is self updating -- thus, it's inclusion is a non-factor in creating a lite ROM. Like PIM manager and a program that associates itself with users' .reg files, it's just a must have for restoration after flashing a ROM.

Thanks for making this ROM. You will be receiving my normal Dutty donation this Christmas. As another American Lost In Asia, I applaud your work, and will continue to give you, hopefully, helpful feedback.

Rob

Bugs:

1 - birthdays & anniversaries are synced with the wrong date

2 - the dialer screen is the wrong size -- SCROLL BAR?

3 - the lock screen is the 6.1 lock screen??? (registry setting???)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobsbbq:
Ok I'm getting V16.o ready it will include the following.

update sys to 21616 A HTC branch build. (Same UI as 28014)

Made a cab for Adobe Reader and is now on the storage card for install.

EZ Input Keyboard is back

Remove HTC Manila Sort Cuts from Start Menu. You can add them back with a simple reg change if you want them.

IME_CHS_ Keyboard is in a cab with Fonts on the storage card.

More tweaks and fixes. (Thanks to RobRedBeard)

I will make new lite versions as well for MS

One of the reasons I'm moving a lot of things to the Storage card is to benefit the speed with Extendir. It also gives more flexibility for the user to install what they want. Right now the install process can be a little tricky and you must follow some specific order. When the new Version 2 of Extendir comes out this will be much easier for me and the user. This is why I have been working on the improved stability and as many add on apps on the storage card as possible.

ETA for Version 16.0 Hopefully within the next 12 hours
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobsbbq:
The reason for installing apps after instead of in the ROM is not for space or memory but for the benefit of optimization through the Enhanced File system filter Extendir. I could do some of it in the background after flash during customization but I think there are people who would not like you running apps from there storage card without their permission. So for now I will do it this way.

Market Place is a good app. For Office I removed the beta 2010 plastered everywhere and used my shortcuts for my start menu. I also removed a bunch of wasted files for installation of the cab other resolutions, Lang etc, and saved 5 mb of space.

I will if at any time try to make a cab or a package from a newer app if someone can post it here. That way I can keep the start menu clean and modify the cab or package to use my folder structure.

1. For Birthdays & Anniversary's I have never used this. I'm not sure if this is a Manila problem or not.

2. Phone Dialer I'm using I don't have any scroll bar issues. I don't know if it could be related to SPB MS?

3. The Lock Screen I never checked on the Lite versions. Will have to check on this
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] noris08:
hi bob!

in the last few days i flashed your roms lia15 an lia15.5 280xx versions

unfortunately i''ve managed to broke the htc sense on both of them by playing with different apps. on lia15.5 i just uninstalled b4alltabs (or i insalled it??!!:confused:) and htc sense didn't start anymore

that didn't happen before with your roms or with other roms:confused:

can you make your next release not so sensible to "cosmetic" changes?

thank you!

regards

LE:

i have the same problem with birthdays by syncing my phone with outlook pc
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobsbbq:
Unfortunately not with the current setup. This is why I put warnings about this. Because the real manila files installed from the Storage card are not in Windows. They are in Windir\Manila There is a alias file in windows that directs to the real file. When you install something which overwrites the files it seems to be no problem. But if you uninstall it it removes the alias file as well as it was overwritten and then Manila will not start.

A way to get around this is find out which files are going to be overwritten and make a backup of those files before installing the mod. Then after uninstalling you can put the backed up file back in Windows. I'm going to as the developer if he can add a function on V2 Extendir that checks the windows directory for missing files and automatically recreates them if needed.

EDIT: Another option for the now would be to reinstall manila over the current setup and it should replace the missing files. Then it will work again.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] noris08:
that might be a very good ideea

howevere, my personal preference is to have things as "automatted" as possible

the less things to take care the less chances to do something wrong:)

keep up the good work!

regards
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobsbbq:
Sorry, This is a different kind of ROM than what you want maybe. I trying to optimize the Extendir capability so we have a lighter faster ROM that is highly configurable by the user.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] noris08:
no problem. i realy like your work (you are in my top 3 chefs), but maybe i am just lazy:D

looking forwad for next release. will it include extendir v2?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mwelch16:
I was guessing that MaxTTM 2.6 would not install correctly. Is that right?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobsbbq:
I have not tried but it might. I have tried other mods and they work. Only the uninstall that its the problem.

I intentionally uninstalled some manila mods to break mine and I got it back working in 3 min by reinstalling Manila. I also found out that you can install all 3 or 4 Manila mods at the same time as long as you disable Manila first from the Today\Items menu.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] manowar1978@gmail.com:
Hello bob...i want to know the main differences between 21884 and 28014 os.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobsbbq:
New ROM online 21616. Mirror links coming soon.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobsbbq:
Different user interface, start menu on bottom bigger buttons etc.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jldiablo:
nice to see CHS input coming back!!!!!

thanks bob!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] RobRedbeard:
1 - Birthdays are unrelated to Manila, since at the time of that posting, I was running a non-manila build. It seems to be just a sync bug in 235xx-28xxx

2 - er, not the dialer, the in-call screen. Has the same problem when I turn off Mobile Shell.

3 - Cool, I really dig the lock screen, especially jumping right to messages, etc from within it. I'll try to post up some reg entries to make it direct to MobileShell's call record and Tmail.exe for SMS and E-mail.

I'm setting up v16 21616 w/ Manila this time (I want to check on reports that 3.5.2 plays better with Sense than 3.5.0 did).

One last thing. I had a problem with v15 MS -- I couldn't get it to turn off SMS sent notifications. Usually, Tom's HD Settings app is enough, but despite what I did there, it still sent me that message about having delivered my SMS -- every time.

Rob
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobsbbq:
OK I found some Reg fixes sms sent popup window. Try the following:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings]

"SMSDeliveryNotify"=dword:1 (change from 1 to 0)

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings]

"SMSNoSentMsg"=dword:0 (change from 0 to 1)

About the dialer now I see what you mean. I will look in to that.

EDIT: This cab will fix the scrollbar issue:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] grzegorz10:
Well done

I just want to say what an excellent ROM you have put together. The only item I have adjusted is the pagepool as I found it to be to low bumping it up to 20 set it as one of best ROMs I have tried, Thanks!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ToniSC:
Three little bugs in V16?

Hi Bobsbbq

I flashed your rom V16 Manila. This is the best rom I have test, but I found three little bugs:

- YouTube doesn't works for me.

- The installed version of Google Maps are 3.2 but the newest is 3.3. I try to install this new version but I always obtain the same error (Internal Error).

- The home screen is moved down the new bottom line (the line that have the windows buttom and the X buttom).

Thanks a lot for your work.

Toni
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobsbbq:
Youtube working fine here,

Google Maps is integrated with Manila Location Service. I have not found a way to install it without breaking Manila. Maybe someone who knows can help.

You Have to install Manila Mod #1 Positions fix.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] manowar1978@gmail.com:
Bob is it possible get a new 16 version without the big button on the down of the screen?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ToniSC:
Thanks a lot for your fast answer bobsbbq

In my phone, youtube crash. In the first screen, appairs "downloading" and after, the app close self.

Before your rom, I use Dutty Holly Grial R0 Manila 2.5 and I can install the latest google maps without any error. With your rom, it is not posible.

This fix works fine, thanks a lot.

Toni
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jldiablo:
hi bob,

could you plz include a chinese font cab in your next release plz..the IME CHS worked great but all my previous font cabs stoped working with the new HTC build (V16). all chinese chars can't be displayed in the new build.

Cheers!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] RobRedbeard:
Let me take a look into this. I just got up and got my coffee made. I'll be flashing xxx16 in a few moments and I always use CHS. I may be able to provide a config cab.

Rob
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] RobRedbeard:
Bob-

Did you take the power button shutdown out of 15.0? I'm trying to shutdown to reboot to the flashloader and just noticed holding down the power button isn't doing anything.

Rob
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] stanmak:
I also experienced the Chinese character cannot be displayed. Appreciate , please take a look!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobsbbq:
Yes on V15 I did, but I put it back.on V 16.0
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] RobRedbeard:
This problem is a pain in the butt.

The problem is that the WinCE.NLS is from Western Europe and doesn't include Asian countries and their special text mapping. After installing a Chinese font, you'll find that all Unicode sources will show Chinese just fine, it's just the BG2312 crap that doesn't show up right. This is due to the wince.nls.

Normally, one can use Total Commander or any file manager to copy a different wince.nls over the old one in the \Windows directory. I had to do this with LIA 13.5, for example, and it worked fine. After a soft reset, all the Asian countries were available in the Regional Settings and under Outlook's viewing options.

For some reason, nothing is changing in this ROM when I replace the wince.nls, even using vivi_Regional doesn't work.

I'll keep working on it, but the best thing would be for Bob to replace the wince.nls in the ROM before cooking.

Rob
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ToniSC:
Another bug?

Hi bob

I found another bug. The phone ring doesn't sound for me when anybody callme :-(

Toni
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Indomitable:
Hi Bob,

I like your Extendir HD Roms, they a pretty fast for Manila 2.5.

Everything is fine but could you update MyPhone to 1.5.2317 ?

Continue good working and surprising as with these nice roms.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Wiggin:
hi, Bob.

First of all - thanks for your ROMs.

And the question - i can't see hebrew fonts in dialer, i have installed the hebrew support. This problem doesn't exist in other ROMs. Maybe some font is absent or something else? Can You fix it?

Thank's in advance