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[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
I have some general questions for the flashing experts!

Greetings to all fellow blackstone users

I have some general questions for the flashing experts!(or anyone who is confident about their flashing knowledge)

I just got this amazing piece of machinery and as I am into computers and tweaking/customizing(my vista is so tweaked its lightning fast), I would like to have new winmo 6.5 on it. However I have no experience in tweaking/flashing phones, and I paid A LOT of money for the precious stone.

I have read wiki on flashing, the guide and the first 40 threads on this topic and other similar topis (it took hours and hours), but there are still some unanswered questions.

I hope there are some experts out there that will find the time to reply to this post, so here it goes:

1.Which method of flashing is safer and why? Some have said that uspl is safer but I have read countless posts about problems occuring when using uspl as opposed to the hspl method? What are the benefits of using uspl method?

2.Is it possible to brick your phone beyond repair using hspl method?

3.At the beginning of flashing process some things in the guide are unclear: when doing the first step( flashing hardspl 1.56olinex), do u use activesync (just plug in you your phone to your laptop, wait for it to sync and run HSPL1.56olinex) or do you go to bootloader then connect to pc (not using activesync at all) when it show USB run HSPL1.56olinex, or can u do one of this methods an it doesn't matter which one?

4.After step one is completed (flashing hspl1.56 olinex) do I unplug my phone and then plug it in again in bootloader mode and run RUU wraper, or do I leave it plugged in and just run RUU wraper immediately after flashing hspl1.56olinex (cause I have seen some guides on youtube where the guy does just that)

5.I understand that there is a program writen by DIgital outcast, that makes the uspl method a lot easier, for those not versed in dos commands, uspl gui, is this true? (just making sure)

6.Is it absolutely necessary to hard reset the phone after flashing, if so -why?

7.Is it possible to go back to stock rom after hspl method?

8.Which method of flashin would you recommend and why?

I apologize if someone finds this questions trivial, but please understand that I have paid a lot of money for the stone and I want to be absolutely sure about what I'm doing before I do it.

THANKS in advance to anyone that replies to this post, U have my gratitude and RESPECT!

(P.S.suggestion: a video of the whole process would answer all questions)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] DaveShaw:
1) Hard SPL is safer. Hard SPL can help you out when something goes wrong).

2) Very unlikly, especially if you have Hard SPL. Always read, and never try anything brand new and you'll be fine ;).

3) For Hard SPL, just plug it in when Windows Mobile is running and wait for the Icon to go green.

4) ?:confused:? Not sure try following instructions from here : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=431217

@Digital Outcast: those steps seem wrong to me, you run the Hard SPL installer in WM, not the bootloader.

5) Yes, but stick with Hard SPL.

6) Not absolutley, but it could help avoid random problems. The explanation is long, but basically, flashing the ROM doesn't override the old one 100%.

7) Yes, just find it, download it, flash it, then follow the SPL relocking here : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=431217

8) Hard SPL, it's easier, better supported and makes fixing your phone easier when stuff goes wrong. The Hard SPL bootloader is easier to work with than the stock one.

HTH.

Dave
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ace10134:
THIS Guide will be very close to a video, and should be a bit simpler to follow. At least, the Touch HD fellow that I helped out thought it was was easier. Hope it helps.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
A big THANKS and 2 more questions

Thank you very much Dave and ace10134 for your quick reply!

I feel encouraged, but I have still not decided.

1.When you download the rom file, do you have to rename it to RUU_signed.nbh, or can I leave it BLACIMG.nbh, because i have downloaded a few and they are all called BLACIMG.nbh?

2.So to get things clear, after I flashed HSPL1.56 I unplug the stone, check the SPL, download ROM, plug the stone in again in bootloader mode and flash after it shows USB on the bottom OR just turn it on, plug it in and wait for activesync to sync and proceed with flashing?

THANKS in advance
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ace10134:
1) You don't have to rename a thing if you're flashing through PC, as you are.

2) Leave your phone booted up in Windows Mobile, and connect USB through ActiveSync. Then go and flash.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] DaveShaw:
Just ensure there is only one file with the *.nbh file extension in the same folder as the RUU and you'll be fine. The RUU will flash the first file it finds with the nbh file extension.

Dave
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Thanks for all your help guys!

Your advice is much appreciated.

I will attempt to flash NRZG28's energyrom winmo6.5 build 23016 maybe tonight or tomorrow.

I will post how it went

respect
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
end result

I have successfully flashed NRGZ28's latest energyrom.

A very special thanks to daveshaw and ace10134, u now have a friend in croatia.

I will promote this site every chance i get.

respect
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
questions for experienced hd users

1.Which cooked rom would you recommend, for stability, speed, everything working? I am using energyrom sep 23 version, winmo6.5 build 23016, I have noticed that memory usage is never below 60%, is this normal or is this a bit too much?

2.which app would u recommend between SK tools4.4.7.7 and Dinarsoft Memmaid?

3.Do u use an antivirus program on your HD?

Thanks in advance
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
This thread is to be used for queries on flashing roms only. If you have queries on other subjects, please post these in relevent section/forum/thread

Also you are asking opinionated questions which are generally frowned upon within XDA as they create endless responses as everyone has different opinions/thoughts on the matter.

Oh, as for your memory usage, it sounds about right for that particular rom.

Now back on topic please
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
sorry

ur right

thanks for the answer to the first question
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ausi:
Could someone please tell me if this ship version i found on the HTC site:

RUU_BlackStone_HKCSL_WWE_1.57.831.1_Radio_52.64.25.34_1.14.25.24_Ship.exe

can be used to "clean-up" my HD ROM memory before installing a new ROM as suggested by some Cookers.

I'm a little confused as this is a 1.57 ROM and the new Cooker's ROM's are all 1.56??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] p4rma:
Bit stuck

Hi,

Firstly great tutorial, very helpful.

I am at the final stage now (USPL5a) to (USPL5f). I noticed that "(USPL1d) A 1.56+ based rom- Dutty's latest rom" is WM6.1, is it vital that I have to update to this? and then upgrade to WM6.5? Or can I just go straight to WM6.5 with one of the many ROMS linked on the forums?

Thanks!

p4rma
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
No this rom was only a suggestion, but is actually an out-of-date rom. Just use the cooked rom you desire in its place
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] p4rma:
thank you very much for the quick reply!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] arleao:
Thank You very much for your posting... it's the salvations of us dummies... I saved my Blackstone with your help.

Regards,

Arleao.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] niksrulz:
Hi!

I'm a newbie ,

I've just been trying to modify my new telstra branded htc touch hd from yesterday

I tried hard spl 30 times but always got 260 or 262 error

Finally after playing around i tried this uspl method

And i tell this works awesome

Thanks for the wonderful guide!!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] clarkedigital:
Flashed my first ROM

Feeling fantastic!! Flashed my first ROM. [Dancing round room]

Read and reRead all the guides all went smoothly. So much so am gonna go for NRG's latest in the next day or so.

Huge thanks to Digital Outcast and all contributers on this thread.

I only made the one big mistake, tried to go via UPSL route but forgot to swap the file before touching any buttons. Oh well looks like I'm stuck with HPSL unless there is a way to go back? Is there?

Thanks again to you all...... (a very happy HD owner) :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
You can still remove HSPL. Follow instructions at bottom on first post in this thread to restore stock SPL and then re-use this guide to put USPL on device
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Nayel:
many many thanks to you bos
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Chris Roadster:
nice work bro!thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Q8ENG:
thanks

Thanks Man for your help your post helps me to flash the SPL correctly and the Rom working fine

Thanks A lot till infinity ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thekingro:
qustion

hi

i want to put on my hd my first rom but i want to know how to do it first..i read that flash for dummies and i have some question..

after i make all that steps i can put on any rom from here?after the steps i run that rom update launcher that every rom arhive has?

thanks and looking for some answers..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Welcome to the right place ;)

You basically have 2 options for flashing. you can either go HSPL, which is easier if you are going to flash often, or USPL which is safer from a potential warranty perspective.

Once you have successfully updated to either HSPL or USPL, you can flash any rom (1.56+ based - which is probably 99.9999% of the roms here). If you use HSPL you can flash and flash again and again. With USPL, you will need to run it everytime you want to flash.

You just download the rom.rar file, unpack it using WINRAR and then you should see 2 files, one called BlackstoneCustomRUU.exe or RUUWrapper or similar. The second file will be a Blacimg.nbh or similar file which is the actual rom.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thekingro:
thanks

sorry for my bad posts from other places:p..i think i understand wwhat to do now..thanks a lot..if u can one more thing..i think u have more experience in this..if u should recomand a fast rom that looks great like winmo 6.5 which one should it be?:P

thanks again for your help
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
There are a number of options and a few different builds of wm6.5. There are some which have the start buttons at the bottom and are more finger friendly and those that have similar button layouts to wm6.1.

I personally prefer the 230xx range (with bottom buttons) and you can see links to some of the roms I've tried recently in my signature. The 21xxx based roms tend to be a little more stable. Then to add to the complexity of the roms there are also different manila (TF3D) versions either based on manila 2.1 or manila 2.5.

As you can see it is very much personal preference that will determine which rom you will like as this may not be the same as the one I like. Once you're set up you can try a few to see what best suits your needs. Welcome to the Flashaholics Club :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hurricane3000:
Remaining 30% of doubts....(almost).

Hi all,

My remaining 30% of doubts (almost):

1)- In another thread I read that also if to update a Rom using a HSPL, it remains possibility to restore it to the "old" original SPL. Is it thrue? And if yes, how can I back-up/restore both SPL and Rom? I must back-up/restore them separately?

2)- I decided, before to update Rom, to run BlacDiag.nbh from Sd Card, to be more sure that device does't contains some problem and is 100% free of defects. So, if not, before to update it , I will bring it to the assistance (my device is 15 days old).

I already downloaded BlacDiag.nbh, but I have some esitation to run it because I read that use of this diagnostic can damage the device.

Personally I don't think it's thrue, but I remained with some doubts.

And also, is it country sensitive (I don't think so)?

3)- If I will decide to do the Rom update from Sd Card, I will unzip the RUU file and to copy ALL files on Sd Card or copy only the .nbh file?

4)- I downloaded the following files, but I have some doubts on wich is more suitable for my device:

RUU_BlackStone_HTC_ITA_1.56.408.0_Radio_52.62.25.34_1.13.25.24_Ship.exe

RUU_BlackStone_HTC_Europe_1.56.401.0_Radio_52.62.25.34_1.13.25.24_Ship.exe

Actually I have ROM Version 1.13.401.0 (20428)ITA

and I not understood why the first RUU file is indicate (by the name) to be an Italian Rom, while his County Code is 408, and the County Code of my device is 401 (different).

Note also that at contrary the second RUU file is indicated to be an European-WWE rom, it has the same County Code of my Italian Rom.

Many thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Znaky:
I have a htc touch hd.

Reboot, do you mean turning it off and then on and it is rebooted? Or press the reset button?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hurricane3000:
If for you "turning it off and then on" the device, means to hold the power button until message "The battery will be disconnected from device.......etc,etc.), then the effect is the same.

If not, then rebooted means resetted.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
I helped with the 1st 70% so lets see if I can address the last 30% for you :D

1) Yes, you can revert to your original spl after going to hspl.

You can back up your rom and spl, - see here for more information. (Although you can get a copy here)

You do not need to backup your spl, just remember which one you have as you can recover the stock spl from this post. This post also describes the steps to follow to revert to your stock spl. (see bottom of post)

2) I've never run Blacdiag.nbh so can't comment on this one, but as I understand you need to install hspl before running this in anycase so you would already be in the same position as if you've flashed a rom.

3) Only the .nbh file needs to be copied to your card and it needs to be renamed (or ensure it is named) blacimg.nbh.

4) The first rom is an Italian one and the second one is actually English. I'm not sure why your rom has a 401 code and is Italian, it could be that your provider (TIM) took an English ROM and only changed the langauage. So if you want an Italian rom use the first one.

Hopefully you are now 99% sorted :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] malechinese77:
cannot flash to spl 1.56 olinex from 1.14

hi dummies

i cannot flash spl 1.56 from my touch hd spl 1.14

i have to work your instruction

Downloads

* (HSPL1a) HSPLWrapper_Blackstone_156OliNex.zip

* (HSPL1b) A 1.56+ based rom - Your end result rom, i.e. rom you want on device which is based on 1.56+

* (HSPL1c) BlackstoneRUUWrapper.zip

* (HSPL1d) SSPL-Manual-TouchHD.zip

* (HSPL1e) Extract each item to its own folder

HSPL2 - Flash new SPL (1.56.OliNex)

* (HSPL2a) Place your phone into its bootloader.

* (HSPL2b) Run HSPLWrapper_Blackstone_156OliNex.exe from the download in step (HSPL1a) and follow it as normal.

from this i cannot run hsplwrapper blacstone 156olinex.exe, in my computer show : the application failed to initialicte properly (0xc0000135) click on ok to terminate the application.

whats the problem and how the solution

thanx
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Have you installed .net on your pc? If so try uninstalling and re-installing it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thekingro:
question

hi there

yesterday i flashed my first rom(mary one) and i am impressed now of what my blackstone can do..but my curiosity goes further and i want to try other roms too, to see the differences..trying this i encounter 2 problems..

if i enter the bootloader it says in the bottom part "serial".when i connect usb it should say ""usb""..my pc sound that discovery sound but usb doesn't appear.i do't know how to fix this and because of it i can t go further..i might have changed some settings in the phone playing around but i don't know what or where..i deffinitle need some help..

and second..how can i exit bootloader?just by tacking the battery of?

tnaks a lot and looking forward to receive an answer..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Hi, that didn't take long and you broke it already :D

Have you tried rebooting your pc and/or phone. I also get problems where usb does not always pick up and need to reboot. Aslo, I don't know if you updated your usb drivers at all during the process, but you may want to try this.

Yes to exit bootloader the only way I know of is to pull the battery out.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thekingro:
hi

yes..didn't take long but i haven't done anything..:p..i have updated the drivers..and i have rebooted my pc and my phone by turning off and then back on..:p..

what to do next?:D

thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thekingro:
got it done

got it done..was something about the driver.removed it and installed a new one..one more wuestionf for today..after flashing it says to hard reset to times..up and down volume + power on..it doesen t do anything here..??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
And still not working? You can also try different usb cables, try different ports or a different computer.

Did you use hspl (I can't remember which route you went), if so you can always flash another rom via your sd card.

Edit: Sorry I've just seen your post and I see you managed to get it sorted out, except for the hard reset now. I have also had problems with this, make sure you hold down the up and down volume buttons together and just tap and release the power button whilst keeping the volume buttons pressed. If you press the power button too long it does not work, so just a brief tap should do it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Sambabal:
Stuck

Hi,

I'm trying to install a cookedrom (topix 3.1.1) but i can't get it done.

Current SPL is the stock version 1.54.0000 and OS of pc is vista32

I have NF 3.5 installed and my virusscanner disabled.

When running the HSPLWrapper_Blackstone_156OliNex.exe the process sits at 0% Not a problem, as i go to troubleshooting and run the SSPL manual.exe.

But then I go to the next step and run BlackstoneRUUWrapper.exe, and it again sits at 0% with eventually error 260: connection.

In SPL it says USB in the white box. I've tried another computer, also without success.

Can anyone help me and give me some tips?

Current ROM 1.56.404.1 NLD (dutch stock)

Radio: 1.13.25.24

Thanks in advance!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] DrakkoFR:
Hmmmm... I don't understand...

I try to flash, it does not work (0% forever)

I try to flash again, it does not work (0% forever)

I try to flash again, it does not work (0% forever)

I try to flash again, it does not work (0% forever)

I try to flash again, it does not work (0% forever)

I try to flash again, it works

Any rom or HSPL do like that. It's only the first time that it used to work for the first time.

Since now, I need to restart the procedure between 3 to about 20 times !
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Where have you got to in the guide? What uis your SPL? Haver you successfully used HSPL or USPL?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Generally speaking if you get error 260, you should just need to reset device and try again. Have you tried this?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Sambabal:
I found the problem.

I got confused by step (HSPL4a) Place your phone into its bootloader before loading BlackstoneRUUWrapper.exe.

This isn't right, should be something like; Start up your phone like you always do and get an activesync connection and run blackstoneruuwraper.exe

Thanks anyways,

Greetz,

The ultimate noob
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Theoretically you should first start in bootloader mode and wait for the bottom of the screen to change to usb before running the ruuwrapper. However there is a little procedure in the RUUWrapper that performs the bootloader switch as well (in case you forget).

Glad you got things sorted out though.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Sambabal:
I understand. Maybe it would be nice to add this step as troubleshouting though. It worked for me!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daniel9191:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=573221

ulopes: i have deactivated my zone alarm and still dosent work

Fallen Spartan: i make folders for each and every rom i download, so i have a folder called Flashing, in that there are several folders, each have there own blackstoneRUU
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Thats a strange one.....right, a bit of a recap:

1. Bottom of bootloader states usb.....so not a driver issue

2. You get ERROR [240] : FILE OPEN

When this error message appears, check whether the downloaded image is placed in the directory of RUU. If, for some unknown reason, you find that the ROM image is not located in the RUU folder, you have to download the RUU and retry again. Check that the contents of the folder is a CustomRUU.exe file and an .nbh file. If you put the os-new.nb file in by mistake instead of the .nbh, this is the error that shows up.......But you state both ruu & .nbh are in their own separate folder and you have named .nbh file correctly as Blacimg.nbh, plus it works on another computer

3. Works fine on another vista laptop.....your anti-virus is turned off

I'm a little puzzled to be honest
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daniel9191:
yes, shall i record a video of the process???
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] atomas7:
Hi, i have a portuguese HTC TOUCH HD, and i try your steps, but when i was in HSPL Method, STEP 2)

I have the error 262: Error during Update Process, and not the 260 error like you said...

Can you give me some help?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] atomas7:
BLAC100 32M

SPL-1.54.0000

MicroP-Blackstone (LED) v6

USB
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
1. Just because the device displays usb at the bottom of bootloader does not necessarily mean that it is not a driver issue. The very first step of the update usb tut is:

.

@Daniel9191 - I can't remember what your response was on the last thread we were busy on re the updating of usb drivers. Did you follow

this guide

fully and update your usb drivers accordingly?

Can you also confirm that each of your folders contains only the RUU and the rom Blacimg.nbh file (and only the one .nbh file at that)? I know you told Fallen Spartan that each folder contains their own RUU, but does each folder also only contain 1 .nbh file?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Error 262 is as follows:

Try this a few times and if it still does not work, you will then need to use the sspl method:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daniel9191:
yes one nbh and RUU per folder (exept my HSPL folder containing olinex)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
What do you mean exept my HSPL folder containing olinex?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
@ ClydeB1 - I think I've created a monster in you.....:p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Justin86:
Hey everybody,

Maybe my question is already answert but i could not find it.

I'm having the same trouble here. I will try to soft reset my touch hd. Before i do that i need to now when to do the soft reset. Is that when the instalation is at 0%? or should i first walk true the steps an recover the touch hd? I'm not sure when to do the soft reset.

In the tutoral is said: "run RUU again" Is that the HSPLWrapper_Blackstone_156OliNex?

And what means "the Wince is destroyed"? Can this cause any trouble? of is it harmless.?

Thanks for all the help.!

Justin.