yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] scoody:
Yes majorasshole the OTP trouble exist , and i wrote that the solutions proposed in other threads don't work after this upgrade. I talk about THIS trouble after THIS upgrade.

I came back on a 6.1 and it works so i'm able to do a nvbackup and restore ...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Major A:
So you came back to which 6.1 rom ? If you restored a KisS 20.4 rom for branded phone, or a hybrid 6.1 rom, you did not have fixed the trouble. The 6.5 rom is not specific regarding the NV unbranding procedure. If you injected a correct unbranded NV, flashing procedure is not different, you flash in emergency mode without erasing OTP block. So you have to be specific on what you come from (device, rom version, unbranding procedure), because it's obviously not the ROM's fault.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sedavlas:
He asks how translate KS20 WM6.5 CE OS 5.2.23071 (Build 23071 FB) WWE Clean 2nd Edit) to russian language. We can't translate it and we need help because about 20 persons is waiting for russian translation, so, how can we translate it to russian?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mosj2009:
http://wmfan.ru/forum/9-21-1
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Deosneos:
Cook your own rom following the instructions in Da_Gs thread. You could ask farah for his kitchen files, that would get you on your way. However, as mentioned before, coocking these ROMs is a lot of work and there's no point asking for localized versions for every language. Certainly not 5 times for the same language. Same goes for flashing troubles, dedicated threads for that exist as well.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Major A:
There is too many confusions between ROM cooking and Burger King : anything can't be done "your way" because you ask ;)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mosj2009:
farahbolsey-simply blocks sewing what not able to take apart him and perevisti.Ìû we can translate on RUS but for etogo we are necessary that ( farahbolsey) not blokiruval ROM and then we will be able perevisti our internet site-http://wmfan.ru/
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Coruja747:
Bug found :)

Alarms doesnt have snooze buttons, you must click on a 'invisible' button to stop it.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Deosneos:
I don't know what you mean, I have a dismiss button and a menu button that gives me options to snooze for any amount of time.

It would be more logical to have a normal button to snooze and an option in the menu to dismiss, but that's just WM. I really don't see the bug.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sitajony:
I've saw in registry a key about of notification "Backup Battery low..." when the battery is fully charged there was as string "1" maybe if you change to "0" There'll be no more this notification but I just saw in 2sec before hard reset so I didn't test... If anybody have do that already tell me... And please make a french build thanks ;)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] moesfeld:
There are mui packages for this rom @ http://alocala.com/ for 2.99$

I haven´t tested yet (due to lack of paypal) but it maybe worth a shot.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cybersolo:
any chances for 23075? i saw there are some issues in it.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Major A:
Activesync issue is ATM very disturbing for rom cookers, and it could be logic that Franck doesn't waste time to fix this when 23071 is pretty efficient at numerous levels. Each build is not a gift ;)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] moesfeld:
I found the 23071 to be rock solid and even more stable than kiss 20.4. And I don´t need styling tools like Wisbar anymore since 6.5 is really good looking imho.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sitajony:
And if I can't buy? There aren't others way?

Cos I'll sale my LG KS20 and I live in france so if it's in english there'll be no one who want buy it...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Major A:
You learn how to cook a rom. If you have to resell the phone, get back to a stock rom. It's up to the next user to choose the rom he wants. It's not really legit to sell a phone with a cooked rom since you altered the product's licence and warranty.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Major A:
That's my point for a long time now. The small memory benefits in 6.1 roms are reduced to nothing when you need to add some tools and enhancements to have an equivalent ergonomy. More deeply, Pocket Outlook is far more efficient to handle HTML mail contents, and GUI rendering is cleaner, faster and the system recovers memory very well. Titanium and new start menu allow to access easily with fingers to all apps in less than 3 clics whithout targetting anything with the little finger and switching between virtual pages (fill the list of pseudo-ergonomic eye candy shells...).
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dumphead3:
the link for downloading the latest rom is dead!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Major A:
Just tried, it's not. Check your internet provider policies or search this thread for mirror.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Miiikadoo:
Please

Hello I would like to know if somebody can explain how to change my mobile Windows 6 in 6.5
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sitajony:
Yes but this roms have less bugs than older roms but of ourse not in french...

I can't build myself roms cos I haven't computer, only for few minutes so...

But there aren't module (.dll) containt some text language and I'll can modify myself to french? (In "windows" folder...)?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sitajony:
Are you french? I can explain you in french if you want...

In english that'll be too long lol (I'm french)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Miiikadoo:
Please

Hello I would like to know if somebody can explain how to change my LG KS20 WM 6 in 6.5
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Major A:
No, language files are system files in read only, and the modification can only be done at cooking stage, and nowhere else. It's not as simple as copy/paste.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sitajony:
Ok it's sorry :( But I don't know when but I saw a program who can unsecure files in "read-only" and I can copy/del/rename/move any files...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Major A:
I guess you don't understand well. That's not a copy pasta work. You need to edit the initflashfiles.dat (if not rebuilding it...), add LANG modules, and you can only do that by cooking, and nowhere else.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sitajony:
Ah it's in initflashfiles.dat all icones/languages...? I beleive it was in a simple file ".dll"... Ok I'll look when I'll have time lol thanks for this informations I'll learn how cook roms with a computer...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Major A:
You read what I wrote ? initflashfiles.dat is JUST A PIECE of the work ! Languages modules are not just a file, but a complete set of system files and datas. So, you should have your attention really focused if you really want to begin a clean rom cooking.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sitajony:
Sorry I didn't understand cos I'm french... I've understood there lol. Yes I'll take lot of time to learn it...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] fercito:
do this work on lg ms25
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] fercito:
if it works on a lg ms25 how do i install it
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Major A:
Everything you ask has a response just by searching this thread with the "Search this thread" fonction. So, carefully read the rules you endorsed when you signed up in XDA, because rule #1 could help you much more than two posts...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Deosneos:
What I was wondering: most other ROMs I see around have thee square buttons on the bottom bar, instead of the round and oval ones this ROM uses.

Why don't you use the square ones?

I'm flashing 23081 right now, I'll give feedback asap.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mcm.xii:
what is new in 23081 >??
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] KupoB:
Automatic time change

Did anyone using the 23071 got the automatic time changed back from Daylight Saving Time? Mine didn't. :(
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] scalle288:
Mine did. Time adjusted automatically.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] zalaros:
Mine too ;)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Deosneos:
I've been using 23081 for a while now and if you're satisfied with your current ROM there's no real reason to upgrade. The bouncy action at the end of lists isn't back :( and there might be some speed increase, but I would say the benefits are minor since 23071 was quite speedy already.

I still only have around 20mb of RAM free, so no mayor improvements there.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sitajony:
Ok je vais de ce pas la mettre j'aime le nouveau lol...

If you didn't understand: I'll try and I saw too if it's better than 23071 but why nobody build a french version? Not only for me but for others french... There'e a lot of poeple who i french so try to build a french version it'll be very nice... I would do it but I haven't my own computer so I've never time :(

but thanks a lot for your work :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Major A:
Perhaps because many french guys involved don't give a **** about...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] farahbolsey:
I'm really curious, how come can you only have 20MB free when I have around 30 and 35MB free according to what says memory in System. And around 40 to 45 % free shown in Showcase.

Franck
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Major A:
Same here, 30Mb left with few things launched at boot.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] opsVic:
With the 23071, mine got 20ish MB free RAM :( Couldn't figure background running apps except SPB mobile shell for sure...

What annoys me with this ROM is that when I switch on the wifi, sometimes it freezes the phone completely which never happened before in the past builds. Any detective like to help investigate? ;)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] opsVic:
Me again

Just want to make sure I understand correctly, when you say in the information page of the build, under 'Programs and addons' does it mean all items below it are included in the ROM itself not to install from PI or else? Since I put some from PI which are the same as some of the list there so not sure if it is the reason to lessen my RAM down...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] farahbolsey:
yes, all what's listed under 'Programs and addons' is included in the ROM

franck
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] moesfeld:
Did you try to turn off the videocall dialer (in case it´s not needed) It got me around 6MB. SPB sucks a lot of Ram too.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Major A:
SPB is a direct wasting of 6 to 8Mb of memory, like PointUI does. Lots of bitmaps and redundant functions with WM 6.5 (app launcher, contacts and so on)...

I would recommend anyone who likes using his fetish heavy UI replacement to stick with Spocky's ROM for numerous reasons, including free ram.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cybersolo:
Was SPBM3.5 fan, not anymore. Right now, I only need functions (phone & ebook), performance (response) and stability (no need to take out battery).

For cosmetic showoff, I use iPhone1.2.5. Light, fully functionally, fast. :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Cissmayazz:
23081 is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just check out how fast the camera loads, it's like 5 times faster than it used to be. Thx Frank!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] opsVic:
How to see if videocall dialer is turned off? Is it the same as the registry change for gsm reload to get better as suggested in the first page's tip? If so, it is then done

From the 'Process' seen in 'task manager' I see SPB only consumes 3MB ish so if original free ram is about 35MB as you guys said, it should be ok to run SPB while 30MB ram is still free right? I see 'gwes.exe' which consumes 6MB ish.. what is that? I think it is anyway, mandatory.:D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] scylla69:
Hi,

23081 is working quite well on my ks since yesterday but I've encountered a small issue: When I use the Chobit Company SmartLock app. to lock my screen after 'suspension' it wakes up only when I wake it up after few seconds, but when I leave it off for more then a minute the phone doesn't respond to the wake up button (I have to reset it by removing the battery)

has anybody encountered this issue ?

cheers :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Major A:
Yes I did to. Looks like the waking up problem is not isolated to the KS20, but more to the build itself.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] phamtuanchip:
yes, i updated the wm6.5 for my ks20, it stil have this problem. Besides, the screen seem to be not fine. The system information said that 18 bit (262 k) colour ? Is that not like 6.0 ? (though 24 bit)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cybersolo:
Anyone has the touch screen 26 keyboard issue? i have problem with screen alignment character 'q' and 'p'.

Have to skew align the screen a bit. (cannot exactly on the cross '+'). Click 'p' always get 'o' and click 'q' always get 'w'.

Should be KS20 touch screen issue, but any advise?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] phamtuanchip:
What about the Video call problem ? i can not see the video call on the keypad when open phone,
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Deosneos:
That's because it's turned off by default. Please don't quote the entire first post, it screws up the readability of the thread.

About the alignment of the screen, go to settings>system>screen and click align screen.

P.S. 23081 seems to have some real stability issues. I've had to take my battery out several times now. Also, the contacts menu sometimes takes a while to open.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cybersolo:
actually, what i meant is using the screen align, if i click exactly on the '+' (cross sign), the 'p' at the right-end cannot be selected in 26 keyboard input view. therefore i have to click a bit left of the cross sign during screen alignment.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spike019:
Great work

Great f*** work. I have the 23071V2 and it's perfect. Quick, ram free (30meg). In the previous one I had no ring when I receive sms but in this one it's working perfect. Marketplace is good and usefull. The taskbar is perfect. I just wonder how to replace in the main menu the "music" play by windows player by S2P. SIP working fine with pcm keyboard.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] 2.nine:
Same here I flash back to 23071 Version 2 for now.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] vaibhavdoshi:
i have been using ks 20 since past 15months but this is by far the best rom rom available in market

About the bug issue i wold like to say that"This person is running a one man show and company has a development team"

u rock dude!!!

i would like to be a beta tester for ur newly developed rom's.........:):):):):)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] scoody:
Bug the same

Hi,

with the last ROM 23081 for 10 days now i have regulary this trouble :

Lock your screen, wait KS20 turns off screen, then call your mobile.

It wakes up, and if i don't answer it hangs vibrating for 5mns always and after it's hang. I "succeed" to reproduce many times this trouble, it's not always but one time on two approximatly.

It's also very long when accepting the call, do i have to apply the video call registry modification ? will it solve ?

Laurent
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] farahbolsey:
This last ROM is far from being the best, it hangs, sometimes when I receive a call, the phone only vibrates without playing the ringtone and so on.

Unfortunately, I've had no time yet to find what is wrong.

Franck
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] henry63b10:
Strange, my works well, I find no differences from the previous version!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] scoody:
registry key already changed in build and hang still the same on call enter

The registry key os already patched is the second build : it's already set to 0

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Phone\Skin]

"Enabled"=dword:1 to 0

"ext"="LgePhoneExt.dll"
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] oktay555:
KS20 call voice quality

Dear KS20 users,

First of all am sorry about write the problem at this thread. (i can say that i searched all forums about this problem but found nothing)

But here is a lot of KS20 users and i thought that my problem can be solved with a rom version of KS20 (however i tried many many roms).

Problem is that;

When i have a call, friends say that they hear always a loud parasite.

Sometimes i can have clear calls but generally everybody complain that problem.

I tried everyting to solve it (sure that wi-fi, bluetooth and any program is closed) but couldnt get a reason.

Also my cousin have a KS20 and he has the same problem, when he calls me i hear the horrible parasite noise too.

Our operator is Vodafone (in Turkey) and 3G service is closed. We tried with other operators but the reason is the same.

Is there any setting about change the voice quality? Anybody have an idea about solve this problem? (maybe this can be a microphone problem but there is two KS20 and think that is a little possibility)

Again am very sorry to write here (so sorry about my poor English)

Thanks a lot...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] moesfeld:
Strange I had this today too. But I´m still on 23071 (v2)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] :
I've got the same problem. People complain about bad voice quality and pretty much constant buzzing. I live in Belgium, and tried 2 operaters, it's the same. 3G disabled. I was thinking of sending the phone in for warranty.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Major A:
That's a common problem on KS20 10b stock rom (well, it existed on French 10b, and resolved in Vodaphone 10f). Might be the same thing.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] oktay555:
i thougt to send service but if there is a soft solution no need to send.

dear @majorasshole do u mean that if we flash Vodaphone 10f the problem can be solved?

my KS20 is unbranded, is Vodaphone 10f rom branded or unbranded? and if possible can u give a link for download?

and for last, can we integrate the solution at Vodaphone 10f rom to any other roms???

thanks for ur reply...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Major A:
No point using this specific rom, any rom released till now by spocky or Franck integrates the fixes. So if your actual rom is based on an old rom, this might be the reason. If you already use a custom rom, it's hardware related and you will have to RMA your phone.

Most stock roms are linked on the KS20 flashing thread, so you just have to search.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] oktay555:
thanks majorasshole, i got now:)

i have already the latest rom by farahbolsey installed and tried almost all roms by Spocky and farahbolsey before.

i got the same issue with all of them.

so as u said i think i have a hardware problem. than i must send to service.

thanks a lot again for ur replies...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] szmatti:
Works pretty good on my KS20, but a german built would be nice.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Yagami_ex:
The post of Builds of the Windows Mobile 6.5.1 there the localizations files, i can cook this files to this rom?Because i am brazillian and i want make a brazillian version of your roms, the brazillian people will be happy with this build.

You can teach me cook a rom?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] scoody:
hang when call enter

hi,

It seems the hang on call enter happens more and more when phone uptime > 1 day.

I have to reboot everyday with the last build 23081, and the trouble arrives not at the first calls. The trouble happens more also if the lock is used. If no lock there is also the trouble but "it seems" less.

Any idea to solve pb and build a new release of ROM ? :D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] moesfeld:
As I said before I have this too on 23071 build. You are right about the lock thing and my phone was running > 1 day.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] :
Ic , then it must reaaly be a hardware problem, as I've been using custom ROMs from the beginneing. Thanks for the info.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Major A:
For those who encounter the waking issue, try to disable the Backlight DIM feature "Turn off Backlight if device is not being used in the...", and just use the power advanced feature to turn off device, and see if it fixes it.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] scylla69:
It seems that your method works. no hang ups with the lock on so far. thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Major A:
Ok, cool, but no victory before a real 24h test ;)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Major A:
New gift for testing purpose : a refreshed Opera 9.7 build with everything configured for the device out of the box. It's a little bit faster to start (15 secs till google) and responsive.

Link : http://dl.free.fr/azlmtbKVZ

Password : same instructions as my PI in first page

Edit : updated link, small UA error now fixed
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] siriokeliang:
IE and FLV Files

I noticed that the version 23071st I could open FLV files from Internet Explorer browser. Now with version 23081st I can not see FLV files from Internet Explorer. this is my problem or is it a problem of rom?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] velvet_hun:
This works on the kiss20.5 as well?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Major A:
Don't know, I won't flash to test it, so try by yourself.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Deosneos:
Major, the resco photo viewer from your PI package just expired...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Major A:
That's why I replaced it by a new HTC Album version for the next PI version.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Phantom2380:
Build 23081 set to private on mediafire. Are you still working on it? Or is it a mistake?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Major A:
None of both, just removed beacause of a bug in the release.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tonoslo:
im tried "KS20 WM6.5 CE OS 5.2.23071 (Build 23071 FB)10E Clean 2nd Edit.7z" version, my opinions:

- free Ram only 32-33MB - im favorite 40-42 MB

- one bugged SlimtkUi item in the Start menu

- WM 6.5 Start menu , Today and Taskbar horribly - wm related, not rom problem, i know

- IE, Mplayer quite good but i dont use

- font smoothing and cleartype better in 6.1 - especially blurried font in WM 6.5 today items (ugly)

- battery issue display filled 100% AND all external power connections
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cybersolo:
May i know what the bug is ?

Should we use back the 23071 2nd edit ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] scoody:
waking up trouble better ! but still loose signal sometimes

About the waking trouble, it's better if with the modification proposed for the "turn on device on battery ..." set to never. I didn't encounter the trouble of waking up trouble for two days.

But sometimes '3 times a day approximatly' the KS20 looses the phone signal without doing nothing, there is the " ! " and if you try to call your phone you go on voice mail. If you put the phone application foreground, then it find back the signal .|| .

I try to set the manual network (not automatic), pb is the same

I try to set GSM only, pb is the same

Any idea ? do you have the same troubles ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] xnym:
It's really a problem for 23071.

I found that memory used is ~46MB initially. After few days usage without soft-reset the phone, the memory used increased to ~51MB, even no programs are running. The unused memory cannot be free. When using the Opera 9.7 (only 1 tab, without other program running), the memory usage up to ~76MB. So close to the max 81.59MB.

Not sure whether the memory problem, the phone hangs some time if there is incoming call or notification pop-up.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cybersolo:
Sigh, 23081 is the best ever, but too bad irritated by the same problem - have to take out battery to restart.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ComaWhite:
JABRA BT 3030 is recognised only as a Headset. Can hear no Music about Bluetooth only phoning. Is this normal?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] 12nala34:
Hello!

I have installed v10b ROM on my KS20. Which ROM - WM6.5 or Kiss 6.1 is better for device's stability and functionality?

cheers!