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[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ck_jun:
Hi i've been using this for a few days and encountered some slowdowns in my phone, anyone experience that? also, it got so bad that when i was typing smses, the key would lag at every character such that some characters were entered twice. however, after i use cleanRam when i face this, it will become better for a while before gg back to the lagginess.

I'm using a touch pro 2 winmo 6.1

Thanks!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] jimski:
I have a delay (2-3 sec.) when moving from the MTP Tab to another TF3D tab, (because every movement is written to a log) but have not noticed any performance hit or battery drain. The MTP Loader process is only using 7.9K.

Occasionally, when I am typing an email I will have lag between typing and the letters appearing, but I would say that only happens 1 in 5 times. I still don't know why. I keep a close watch on my memory usage and open processes/apps running (kill and clean often).

Maybe you installed something around the same time that is contributing to your problem. I have tried a couple today plug-ins that were real resource pigs, slowing things down quite a bit.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ck_jun:
every movement is written to a log? can we disable that? i sure dont need to see what tabs i shifted to the whole day..

Can we check wat processes is holding up the phone? what software can we use to see the memory usage? thanks!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] aldamon:
Still works great in WM 6.5. :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] jimski:
I asked about the log about 100 posts ago and got instructions for how to clear it out :(, but there is no way to disable it. I understand the importance of a log file for an application under development, but I wish there was a way to disable it when every is running nice. I replace the file every few weeks usually when it has reached about 1MB. It appears to record all of the movements within TouchFlo. The TF3D weather app is especially troubling where MTP writes 100+ lines (especially if you have several locations defined).

Instructions for replacing MTP Log File:

-Create a new file labeled log.txt - Set attributes to Read Only

-Rename existing log.txt file to log.txt.bak

-Copy new file into Manila Today Page folder

-Soft reset - Delete log.txt.bak file

I usually use MemMaid to check the size and CPU usage of running applications and processes. But you can also use TaskMgr.exe (not to be confused with TaskManagerApp.exe) which can be found in your Windows folder to check CPU usage. MTPLoader.exe is listed as being 68.0K in this app, but it never even triggers 1% of CPU usage so I don't think that's your problem. You may find some other add-ins that are eating at your CPU. Most of the usage I observe comes from built-in Windows utilities.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] aldamon:
Fixed!!! See below.

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Anyone else getting misaligned tab icon and icon underneath with MightyROM 6.5? I'm using the same color icon from this thread that worked fine with the stock ROM and it's driving me nuts:

1. Slider icon aligned in the upper-left corner:

2. Icon under the slider is also too far to the left and slightly high:

3. Pop-up icon is also too small and misaligned in the top-left:

Can't figure out how to straighten them out. I've extracted the other icons in the slider and used one of them as a template and my new icons are still misaligned. What controls the alignment?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] sjescott:
pRSSreader not updating

Hi!

The pRssreader application itself updates properly, but the updates are not reflected on the MTP Today Page.

I get no error messages.

Is there a solution for this? I use another "live" Today page adin, called STQ, and that updates fine...

Thanks

Steve
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] jimski:
Can't help with your problem :( but I can report that Newsbreak and Handy Weather both update/display fine on MTP.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] supermarioarv:
can someone please give me an explanation how can i use this programm in duttys holy grail rom?

Im trying but i canot make it run...

Please someone give me step by step what should i do.....
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] henfeb:
tried on Duttys R8 ,Diamond 2/Topaz , not working :(
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] aldamon:
OK, so it turns out a mode9 file was controlling the size and location of the slider icon and I figured out how to fix it for MightyROM (WM 6.5). I've attached the fixed _manila files to the bottom of this post if anyone is interested.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] supermarioarv:
Can you explain how will install exactly the MTPinstall programm so it will work with win.6.5 and manilla 2.5 .

I have htc diamond2 with dutty holygrail rom R0.

What i must do so that i can make it work?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] aldamon:
I don't think MTP works with Manila 2.5.

MightyROM is 6.5 with Manila 2.1.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] mike2nl:
Developing anymore?

Hi blezalex,

i have seen that your last post is from the 27. July 2009. Are you busy with some new stuff or have stopped the developing of MTP.

That will be very sad, because you have created a killer app for WM. So my question is now:

Are you on further developing?

Yes, then please give us a overview ... :)

No, it is possible that you give the source code free, then someone can bring this super app further? ;)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] blezalex:
Development is suspended due to lack of time.

I can share source code on GPL license. Please PM me if you are interested in further development.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] gkai:
It partially work with manila 2.5: If you remap the today screen to a tab that is common between 2.0, 2.1 and 2.5, it works...

But it does not add the new "today" tab anymore, nor is able to remap today screen to a 2.5-only tab (like twitter, footprint,...)

I think that most of the App is still working, but I suspect that the only thing that fails is that the Manila tabs have been hardcoded or there is some magic tag that allows MTP to overide one particular tab, and this has not been updated for 2.5 (hence the new tabs not appearing in the configuration utility, which makes them impossible to override)

The absence of new today tab may just be that there are more tabs in the new manila 2.5, but there it may be more complex: removing tabs (including all new ones) does not allow the new today to appear, so maybe the code to add a tab in Manila was highly version-specific...

That beeing said, I agree that it is a killer app, so much that I consider going back to manila 2.1 just to have it functionaing perfectly. Congratulation blezalex!!!!!

I would like to contribute also if it is released as GPL code (but I will need to lean a little bit about WM development, never done it before, only linux stuff yet ;-) )

I will perform more check (using new manila 2.5 roms - all the above is for larva 3.9.7 rom)

Edit: tried with Tess 3.9 rom, same behavior, so probably this is the current state of MTP in Manila 2.5, regardless of the rom...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Stratofour:
Isn't it somehow possible to make the "black curtain" transparent?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] drjim:
MTP on Manila 2.5

I flashed EnergyROM Akeo with Manila 2.5. I then installed MTP. It worked at first, but then when I did a soft reset, I would get a warning "unable to find MTP," plus the bottom bar would change (turn white, softkeys become small, Windows logo disappears so no way to access Start Menu).

So I had to hard reset and don't think it is worth trying again.

Yes, I agree that MTP sort of works, but not well enough to be really useful.

Hopefully someone will take over and develop it for 2.5. Before I realized that the 2.5 problem with the bottom bar was due to MTP, bbonzz had been working on code to create a new tab. His work is on hold though.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] jimski:
Bummer. Not using 2.5 yet, but I would like to someday. And I would definitely miss MTP. Hopefully someone will pick up on development.

I use TF Detatcher and bob back and forth between TF3D and Today screen. When I close TF3D to clear up a problem or otherwise, I get the "unable to find MTP" message within 10-15 seconds, so I assume it is always polling. Based on your experience, seems like it was trying to load but couldn't.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] gkai:
Strange, cause I find it working quite nicely, at least when I map it to a recognized tab (not the new today tab that is not added in manila 2.5). I map it to the browser tab.

The only small issue I sometimes have is that it loose it's size, but now I use a forced size (about 630 px) and it work nicely. I am using Tess 3.9, without landscape support in 2.5 main screens (it remains in portait mode at all time).

I also activate only digital clock and spb diary elements in today screen, not the microsoft 6.5 today screen. That may be the reason why it is working almost flawlessly for me, the problem you mention may be more linked to the new 6.5 today elements rather than to MTP itself: maybe 6.5 today is using a new, improved interface to draw itself on the screen (more finger friendly, with kinetic scrolling for example) which is not supported yet by MTP, while my elements were working in 6.1 today screen and are thus "old-style".

Do you have problems with MTP if you activate only 6.1-compatible elements (should be most of existing today plugins, except the ones provided by microsoft in 6.5)?

Really, the only thing I really miss is a new today tab, or at least the possibility to map to tabs I do not really plan to use in the near future, like twitter tab for example....The "t" could even stand nicely for "today" ;-)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] blezalex:
Source codes

I've uploaded source codes to google code

http://code.google.com/p/manilatodaypage/

Feel free to contribute
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] gkai:
Ok, my first contribution (more a hack than update to the code, I do not have visual studio installed nor have any idea about compiling for WinMo ;-) ).

It is very easy to target the new tabs in manila 2.5 that are not mentioned in the configurator: Just edit the registery to set the correct string, and relaunch manila 2.5.

The string to modify is in \\\HKLM\Software\Microsoft\ManilaToday\TargetPage

Set it to the tab you want, the different possibilities are below

home.page

people.page

messaging.page

email.page

internet.page

calendar.page

inforwidget.page (this is the "stock" tab)

album.page

music.page

weather.page

twitter.page <- this is my new target, i do not use twitter and the "t" is perfect for today ;-)

footprints.page

settings.page (this one should not be targetted ;-) )

After setting you new target page, you are able to re-organise tab order without problems, and MTP work nicely (at least with 6.1-compatible pluggins like spbdiary or PDC digital clock, the one I use).

Now MTP is almost perfect for my use, i hope this hack is usefull for others...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] angelfire226:
Working beautifully on Rhodium 7200A

I hope that HTC integrates the today plugins into the TF3D home screen, but this is working beautifully on my Rhodium!

I was wondering if would be possible to rearrange the tab like the other tabs in TF3D... would be great to be able to have it right next to the home tab.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] rickgillyon:
Very good, thanks. I get an error report every time Manila starts though (the type that it wants me to report to Microsoft). Manila then loads and MTP is working and active, but I still get this annoying error on startup. Any ideas?

HD2 BTW, so Manila 2.5 WM 6.5.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] angelfire226:
Rearranging Tab Solution

I tried this and it kind of worked but I don't have a Twitter Page, so I tried the stocks page. It worked but I was stuck with the stocks icon and name on the tab, plus the stocks soft keys. I really wanted to keep the windows icon as it was with MTP and the MTP Config and Home soft keys.

Here's my solution:

I reset the above key to its original value, then ran MTP config and reset the tab to Today.

Then I went to this reg folder \\\HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\Configuration

and opened each numbered folder until I found the tab that I wanted to change to today.

I chose the stocks which WAS 12 because I don't use that page and renamed Page Name to Manila://today.page and Title to [[IDS_TODAY]]

Then I closed everything and soft reset. Next I went into the settings tab and rearranged the tabs where I now have one called Today and none called stocks.

Now my MTP tab is called Today Screen and has the windows icon, the proper soft keys and rests next to my Home tab... YAY!

Hope this helps anyone looking to configure this just a bit further.

-A
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Karle:
Uninstall doesnt work

MTP didnt work right for me (im only interested in tasks on home screen) :(

so i just tried to uninstall (through settings --> remove programs).

after that, TF3D didnt start, so i reinstalled MTP and deactivated the MTP Button like the author described in his first post (faq).

My question: how can i completely remove MTP without having any trouble with TF3D afterwards? :confused:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] mike2nl:
Hi blezalex,

that is very bad that you a lack of time. I hope you come back in the next few weeks or some months. Because i am very busy with all the DUSK theme stuff for HTC Sense 2.1 in WM6.5.

I will download the source to take a view. Possible me and others here can work together on MTP. That will be a great lost when MTP goes into the internet nirvana.

I will restart the tests with MTP on the weekend, because i need for other things a different today page and i will not switch every time from one to the other. So MTP is THE solution.

I have done so many research for MTP, i mean addons, because that i can't stop with that :). At first install MTP and manipulate all manila stuff.

Yes back to the roots.

Then i have to test many new addins from different authors. The one on the first place is all the ageye stuff. And that stuff is really hot.

I hope i see you back here. You will have from time to time PM's from me.

See you and think twice before delete :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] drjim:
Slow Sense 2.5 Launch

I am running NRG's Akeo 6.5 (11/20, build 23088) with Sense 2.5. I have been using MTP with iPhone Today for some time. The only problem I have with it is that it takes a long time for Sense to launch or I have to soft reset several times for it to launch. No pattern at all, sometimes quick launch, sometimes multiple soft resets.

Anyone else have this problem and anyone have a solution?

Update: I just got frustrated with the uncertain launch, so I've uninstalled MTP (much to my disappointment). There's something going on between my 6.5 and MTP that needs some fixing. Unfortunately, with blezalex out of action, I'll have to wait for someone else to step up and update MTP for these newer builds.

It was great while it lasted...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] mike2nl:
I had installed the MTP 0.4 version on my phone (see signature).

After installing manila.exe error appears. I think the version is too new.

Ok after some test i have strated to uninstall MTP. Oh my godness...

My back did not the job. The second backup syas something from file system errors on writeback action....

So only a hard reset was possible. So i can't use MTP anymore.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] bbonzz:
I have Sense 2.5.19211619 (so even newer) on my HD and MTP works (without own page, of course). So i guess it's something else on your side not working good

(yes, drjim: now i too have 2.5 :-))
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] jimski:
Good to see that MTP is working successfully on a device running 2.5. Lots of different feedback on this thread. That will help me with any future ROM/Device upgrade decisions as I wouldn't want to be without it.

Thanks.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] rola:
Hello, I want to ask if this plugin will be work with HTC HD2 with Sense.

Thanks
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] drjim:
I reinstalled MTP to my Fuze running NRG 23088 with Sense 2.5 (I just love it so much). Can anyone explain to me why it takes a long time and often several soft resets for Sense to launch?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] rickgillyon:
Yes, it's working fine on HD2 - there are a few errors thrown to start with, but if you turn off Error Reporting you don't notice them any more... :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] rola:
I have instaled MTP on my HTC HD2 but I found some problems; first I can't change between Sense and Today (MPT loader works (I have information on the screen) but doesn't change anything. Could you help me, please?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] mikevillarroel:
any chance for this to work in my Vogue with tf2d?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] drjim:
I just flashed to NRG 28008 and MTP (connected to iPhone Today on the Messenging tab) is playing much nicer with it than 23088.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] blezalex:
There is alternative project (held by another person), you can find it on http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=130400

Unfortunately, I have not found any references in English, Google translate might help you.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] theodor.machnich:
Hi blezalex,

thank you for your tool. I serarch a different thing to do.

I want ad extra home tabs in htc senses.

On my htc h2 i found somme links in manilaxml wich host all the home tabs.

Is there a idea from you to ad more tabs?

After I a extra tab than I want ad your Manila today page, but I nead all the tabs at the moment.

Thank you for your help

Theo

Sorry for my bad written english
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] xda_3300:
HD2 (german version): works fine

It works fine on my HD2, without problems. :)

Thank you for this aplication, now Today and Sence, it´s great.

Thanks, xda_3300
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Nagrom Nniuq:
I still cannot get this working on my Rhodium. I keep hoping someone will remake it or make something similar. I really can't believe HTC hasn't picked this up...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Fktrcfylh:
I tried to do so, but does not work: (

In the settings tab has appeared bookmark IDS_TODAY it can be moved and included in the Manila but it does not appear

I replaced the Internet tab, now it is not in the settings tab

all done a few times - just tab does not appear

What could I do wrong?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] JEWUWA:
I am using MTP on my WM6.1 with Manila 2.1.

Everything works fine. I do have a own Tab called Todayscreen with a Windows Icon. In ths new TodayScreen Tab I do have today Agenda. - just perfect.

BUT

This Tab is on last place and I can't find any settings to change the position if this tab because it is not shown in register tab settings. Even in the registry I can not find this tab in \\\HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\Configuration

There are all regular Tabs shown but not this from MTP.

Is there any way to get this on another position?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] aldamon:
Yes. I posted this a while ago:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=4705390#post4705390
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] paryav:
Some customization:

In attachment cab which make today tab under manila 2.5 and install mtp.

Testing may be work or not, for me work.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] dan_ru:
I've create topic for Manila 2D TodayPage http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=5167748

blezalex

You are the first! I've use your idea. Thanx.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] drjim:
Has this cab been tested on a variety of phones and TF3D/Sense screens? Will this work on VGA phones? bbonzz said that he couldn't even install it on his HD.

Thanks.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] garyjmobey:
which version of 2.5?

mine is 2.5.19211619.0

and have no luck

though I do have max ultimate 2.5 installed
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] bbonzz:
This won't work on Manila 2.5 (Sense). it is for Sense 2.1. You have simply changed tab icons dimensions, to reallign them in 4c9a8479_manila (good find, i did the same thing a couple of months ago). But this doesn't solve the problem to make the today tab appear on Sense 2.5.

btw, the 26948339_manila file in your cab is useless (and prevents the cab from being correctly installed): the embedded install.dll already does the same thing.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] paryav:
My manila 2.5.19211622.0

OS 6.5.21885

May be wrong pre-xml file created for WinCe cab manager:

<characteristic type="FileOperation">

<characteristic type="\Windows\ManilaFull.xml" translation="install">

<characteristic type="Delete">

<parm name="ForceDelete" />

</characteristic>

</characteristic>

</characteristic>

<characteristic type="Registry">

<nocharacteristic type="HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Manila\Configuration" />

</characteristic>

Your can do this manually.

Or if find error tell me when.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] paryav:
May be your not stopped sense before install.

See file 26948339_manila. Customization in it:

<Page Order="13" Name="today.page" PackageName="HTC" Title="Today Screen">

<ComponentReference Name="page" Mode9Path="HTC\today.mode9" Component="GizmoRoot" SmartComponent="true"/>

<ComponentReference Name="icon_normal" Mode9Path="HTC\todayicon.mode9" Component="today_Off"/>

<ComponentReference Name="icon_selected" Mode9Path="HTC\todayicon.mode9" Component="today_On"/>

<ComponentReference Name="icon_preview" Mode9Path="HTC\todayicon.mode9" Component="today_Preview"/>

</Page>

Full idea not my. I was find it on 4pda.ru
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] bbonzz:
I've seen. And it's exactely what the install.dll does. try to install the original MTP, extract the 26948339_manila file and compare with yours: it will be exactely the same. And this does not help at all in displaying the tab in Sense 2.5
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] paryav:
Very Interesting i have manila Sense 2.5.19211622.0 and all work's

Different is: Page Order="13". Installer did Page Order="12"
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] bbonzz:
On mine does "13"... And i too have 2.5.1921

When 2.5 came out, i tried to do the same thing manually, and also editing the MTP _manila files, but without success...

So, at this point, i wonder how on yours this editing does the trick (and why the installer does "12")
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] paryav:
Ok. Just do this.

1.Stop Sense.

2.Delete key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Manila\Configuration and all sub keys.

3.Delete file \Windows\ManilaFull.xml

4.Edit file 26948339_manila. Add new session.

5.Install mtp 0.4.0.0

6.Run sense.

Manila autocreate file \Windows\ManilaFull.xml based on 26948339_manila

If your reorder pages in Sense, Sense create key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Manila\Configuration in registry.

Thats all.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] bbonzz:
I know, i was the first to point out this trick in this thread :)

Success! This was the trick! Now the tab appears

Thanks, paryav. You should try to automate the process in your cab with a provxml (the actual one doesn't install correctly as told, and thus doesn't delete the xml)