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[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Satanael:
The company I work for has 4 wings, two of them in our IT Dept (which i'm obviously part of) and two in our C level execs. Currently 3 of us are using the JustMe rom because it provided a lot of space customization options on what apps are used. The 4th phone i've got a guinee pig testing ivan's new JustcHome rom. Really looking forward to that one's final release so that i can push it out to the rest of our phones. The JustStable rom works great too but I stuck with the JustMe rom because i already had it working great and no issues with it.

Keep up the excellent work Rom Developers :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kristopherson:
Atlas

I was new to the Atlas/Wing/Herald (WM in general) until late last year. I was just a "I need a phone to make calls and send the occasional text" kind of guy until my job title changed and I was bored out of my mind for six hours a day. (stupid complaint to have about work huh?) I bought a cheap used wing on ebay and a friend told me about !!!!!XDA!!!!! and bricked it on my first flash attempt because I didn't read the directions. So I went back to ebay and bought an Atlas and I haven't looked at phones the same way since. I have flashed every rom I could find and found a new way to lose hours of precious sleep by trying to make it juuuuuust riiight.... Then someone would release a NEW ROM and I couldn't help myself.

I'm currently head over heals in love with my wife... Sorry... Had to write that because she was looking over my shoulder.... I'm currently in love with Ivan's 15v2. I tried his "buggy alpha" 6.5 and was impressed because his "alpha" was better than the rom I cooked for months. I'll stick to cooking steaks and leave the roms to Ivan, ASerg, Mops, PDAViet, ICP, Gullum and the rest of the true Cooks.

My only question at this point isn't "when will Ivan's 6.5 be ready?..." I wanna know what phone Ivan will be moving onto next. I wanna make sure I keep getting solid, reliable fast roms for my future devices.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Master Loon:
Waiting for a good 6.5

Yeah, still winging it. I need WM for work. Over Wifi, I have Mnotes hooked up for email on the hip.

Working off of Open Touch 7.5.

It does the trick.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
haha thanks

Actually I moved on to the G1 which is the only reason why I have been able to work on the Wing so much. And I'm a little obsessive compulsive with my ROMs which is why my alpha's are alpha's to me.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] artvandelay:
I am using the T-Mobile wing, and have the PDAViet WM6.5 ROM installed.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] WhatzinyourphonE:
Im still using my Wing. But as tmobile gets the pro2 wing2. Im switching no questions asked. Im using Aserg's rom build 19209. The best roms out there, i think.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kristopherson:
DAMN! I don't want a G1... Maybe a G2 but I have friends with G1's and I just don't like it. I can't quite put my finger on it... it just doesn't click with me.

I'm looking forward to the Touch Pro2. Knowing TMobile they'll eff up the stock rom and The great chefs here will have a remedy. I've tried cooking my own rom but I just don't have that special touch of creativity to make it work juuuust right.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
What I lack in the creativity, I make for in the obsessiveness. :p

I also felt the same about the G1, but after getting one, and especially after installing Haykuro's 5.0.2G (based on the cupcake branch of Google's development) I have to say that I'm pretty happy with it. But I'll be happier once I start cooking my own G1 ROMs. What I have to do is learn how to program in Java... so many app ideas that I wish I could make...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kristopherson:
Maybe after some progress is made with it I'll come around. It's not just the OS... it's the phone itself. I just don't like the feel of the G1.

Whats most amazing to me is how in the blue hell are you constantly posting and helping people out and still able to crank out these SOLID roms? do you sleep?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Sleep is for the week... :p
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kristopherson:
HAHAHAHA! I'll sleep when I'm dead
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Truthfully, I WANT to sleep, but I get obsessively tied up in making something work and I won't let it go until I have it perfected, even if I only sleep 3 hours and have a midterm or busy day at work the next day. It's not that I don't want to sleep; it's that I can't help but obsess until I've found an answer to whatever question is bothering me.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kristopherson:
you have no idea how much i know about that OCD issue. i won't even begin to go into it here because of how off topic it is. we should have a sticky post on OCD to help the members of XDA cope with this issue. i KNOW we aren't the only ones. LOL
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] thecraze:
I upgraded from an SDA (Tornado) to the Wing recently, and I don't care if it's outdated already. I wanted a pocketpc, and it's great. The ROM version is in my signature, and I like it (of course over the T-Mobile bloatware).
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ericramos:
ttran's opt 6.5 lite

i love my wing so much, been w/ me for almost 2 years, fallen (usually when i get off the car) like a bazillion times and still working.. Wing rox!

thank you for all our cooks in here. i almost gave up on thw wing w/ the stock rom until i googled all my frustrations.. i found xda.. then i live happily ever after =]
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] screwball8:
I've been using Touch-IT for several months now, but I finally got sick of apps randomly quitting on me, and having to reset the phone every time I wanted to use or disconnect from internet sharing. so, I'm back looking for something light and simple. Going to try Ivan's ROMS next.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] bigreg320:
well

touch it 6.1 black i like it the best better than most the others maybe cuz im a simpleton
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apathetic:
Wing. And I am using Stock T-Mobile (all 3 of us are) if I go back (we) it will be the Touch-IT_v7.1_public_beta I think

Yes I gave up. Most cooks left and I would cook my self if I had a teacher. I really want a ROM but I am sick of the incomplete ****. I just want a fast stable ROM and it seems more trouble then it is worth most times.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Not all cooks left. :p

I think my ROM isn't incomplete. ;)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Agent Blair:
I have never owned a Wing, but my dad does, and I snoop around the Harold forums for some useful tips and advise for his phone, which, in some ways is better than my Fuze such as speaker volume, buttons, and game emulators! He has a stock ROM with point UI, which is fine for him (I have to install programs for him). But eventually he'll come around and I'll hard-spl and flash the device to a stable 6.5 ROM, when that is finished. It's really nice that a couple of ROMs are still being made for the Wing, I just wish I could test them and contribute to the community. If I could get a used Wing for $50, I'd get it! It's still a great phone to swap my Fuze with when it's charging or not wanting to work!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
thanks for posting. it made me go check ebay.com in USA to see what used wings cost. Unfortunately, THIS is what you can get for $50 :rolleyes:

Here's the current search results page ....
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kristopherson:
I don't know if anyone has noticed but within the last week or so tmobile stopped selling the wing on its website. Maybe you can still get one in a store still, but looks like they're closer to releasing the wing 2
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] WhatzinyourphonE:
yup, my store got rid of the wing. usually means a new phone is coming! its scheded to be out by mid june. im so excited!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] rstweb:
i tried a lot of different roms. but at the end i use a version modified by myself. at the moment i' waiting for oem and sys of wm6.5 to build my own rom of wm6.5 achieving my requisites.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
The OEM is the same OEM you would use on 6.0 and 6.1 with some modifications made by you. (Or by a cook that releases OEMs, like I have in the past.)

The SYS and XIP is already out for you to port. ^_^
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
that's hilarious!! and also true!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] da5fx:
The rom that i'm using:

JustHome Alpha v3 - WinMo 6.5

I install several but they all have some thing's that i didn't like so i was alway's going back to the original htc rom.

This one i liked.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kristopherson:
I flashed 7 roms yesterday.... Is that obsessive compulsive?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I've created 7-10 ROMs in a day and flashed and debugged each one. :p

That's pretty bad... but at least they were all just revisions of each other. Sometimes, I work on two ROMs at a time like I have been doing lately.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Liath:
I've still got my poor little underpowered Wing in use... only phone I have right now.

I was using OTP7 but it ran kinda slow for me, and was sometimes doing odd stuff (probably because I screwed something up). It was very pretty though :P

Looking at the ROM the OP has in sig. If it is fast, stable, and doesn't cripple my phone to death, or get weird lag a lot, I'll be all for it. About to start testing it soon. Hopefully this one will let me set the T-Mobile faves... kinda annoying having to get to a computer to do that.

The poster for JustStable needs to put install directions in there, as well as which ROM is newest/how they're flashed, etc... going to have to load the OTP7 install thread to be able to install JustStable.

The default T-Mobile Wing software works pretty fast, but its... annoying how they make parts of the phone menus and such un-changable. "Can't remove this item" my *$$! Hate that about branding.... esp when I paid retail for it when it came out (and was really PO'd when my bro's old HTC had more balls under the hood (CPU) than the Wing/Herald....)

Oh, and for a T-Mobile person with the fave thing... and wanting it to be fast as possible without being gimped, should I try JustHome, or JustStable?

And do either of these end up with features missing? txt, mms, anything up and go poof? I keep reading about Arcsoft MMS for custom roms, though I dunno why the custom rom doesn't include it by default?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
For the longest time, my ROMs were only used by a small subset of very advanced users. My LZX ROMs are not compatible with the regular flashing software due to limitations in the flashing software. I'm not used to dealing with newer people. That and it takes a lot of time and effort to create ROMs as it is, and since I've created walkthroughs on how to flash, I figured it's ok for the user to do a little searching themselves.

I don't use myfav and it slows the phone down so I don't include it in my ROMs. JustStable is as fast and stable as it gets.

Text's work fine. MMS works fine if you install arcsoft then run the network configuration (as tmobile isn't the only provider for people who use my ROMs.) I don't include it, believe it or not, because people ALWAYS complain about it not being the version they want. You can't please every single person with one version only. That's what made me give up on including it altogether.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Liath:
Yeah, but sometimes searching gives me so much stuff I have to wade through that I give up on it. I'll usually run 2-3 searches to try and find what I need to know, and if it isn't on the first page, it's usually not going to be on there at all :P Like Google is my best friend and most hated time-wasting enemy :P I do understand how your time would be limited and you'd be slowing down development of the ROM to sit and write up a guide. Maybe a link to a common 'how do I install ROMs' thread :P I didn't know what the heck an NBH was till I stumbled onto the OTP thread from Google.

So far, btw, I'm *really* liking JustStable. It doesn't have myfaves, but it does have that neat little contact panel. That makes me happy enough, and I do understand that the actual "MyFaves" app that TMO ships would probably be a bloated pig.

Ahh, okay so I would need to install that arcsoft thing if I used MMS. Not too bad of a trade-off, and I do understand why you wouldn't include it, especially if people gripe about wanting a particular version. I read up on that thread about the opera mini fix, and that one is a good example :-|

But yeah... JustStable so far kicks the crap out of OTP7 imho. Meets my needs, plays friendly with Homescreen++ (I use it to increase battery life with the scaling/underclocking) and still is responsive at 143Mhz, which would drag OTP down to its knees and freeze/lock up the phone intermittently. Very few quirks, and still pretty feature-packed. I like! Oh yeah, and the slide to answer thing actually WORKS in JustStable. In OTP I'd hang up on people more often than answer with it.

So, JustStable gets my vote :D And once I have some spare cash, a donation. Much better than the crap TMO had on it!

Btw, why don't they HIRE the hackers? You guys do such a better job with these phones! Seems like HTC, TMO, and all these other companies would be on these sites trying to recruit ya.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] rstweb:
thanks a lot for your correction. of course, i meant sys and xip. don't ask what i've done when writing ma last post... ^^

my problem is that i haven't ported any sys and/or xip. but that's something i have to learn and i will learn :) but for the beginning, it would be much easier to see, if wm6.5 is something i want to have. because of the dofferent opinions i read here in the forum, i will wait some time till there is leaked a good base version.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
There are many bases to play with now a days. If you want to give it a try, have you tried any of my JustHome alpha releases?

And I might rewrite my cooking class, this time with a different purpose. Instead of teaching how EVERYTHING works, I'll just teach you what you need to know the most and how to use released builds, instead of having to extract your own. MIGHT.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] rstweb:
not yet, but at the moment i do a backup of my herald to test your JustHome.

I also tried to extract your image, but the pkg tool doesn't work with the dumped rom.

that would be great. i used your cooking class to learn how to build own roms. other help was this forum. but i did not yet figured out how to use released custom roms as base and how to build an extended rom image.

base was always an original htc rom.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
There are plenty of places (especially here and in ppcgeeks.com) to download new builds that are ready to cook. Using released custom ROMs as a base is seen as a no-no due to the hard work that it takes the original ROM cook to get them to that point. (Most 'recooks' don't credit their sources.)

Most kitchens now a days encrypt the ROM to make it undumpable. (My ROMs are also encrypted.)

The best way to search for the files is to search for "SYS XIP". :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kristopherson:
Ivan.... Please just admit you're not human! I've been working on my own rom here and there for about 3 months... But I doubt I'll ever release it because It pales in comparison to your stuff.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Most people here haven't been around here long enough to know, or were around but never took notice of me, but my first released kitchen/rom was HORRENDOUS. It was the most broken ROM I had EVER seen... haha. those were the good old days... I'd ask an experienced cook a question, and I'd either get NO answer or "READ!" as the answer. :p
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] rstweb:
I know and I dislike those 'cooks', who don't credit their sources, but sometimes I ask me why I shouldn't use a good custom rom as base (for example yours with a lot of free space) and use that to build a new rom. But I think, asking will help a lot :)

Yeah and this is good. But unfortunately I have not yet found informations how ROMs are build by for example BuildOS and how encryption is done. I have to search more ^^

I know and I will do :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
In the past, I've released whole kitchens set around my ROMs. In this case, I haven't, but only due to all the patching that I've done. If anyone tried to make sense of tales of it, they wouldn't be able to AND they would probably break half of the patching. :p

But, I may be releasing a kitchen (stripped) for all HTC devices, eventually... future stuff here, no where near beginning that project.

You can find information from my cooking classes, but they're a little incomplete. I've thought about starting up the class again but in a different format, BUT BuildOS is a little outdated... so I might switch the class over to the visual kitchen...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kristopherson:
You'll probably laugh at this... I logged on to XDA a few days ago and saw you released JustStable V5 micro and said "Awesome!" My wife said, "What? did that Ivan guy release a new rommy thingie again?"

*If you made a release of that rom with the new skyfire 1.0 and mms included I would build a church in your honor*
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
hahaha! That's awesome. ^_^

I might one up that.... I MAY release a full kitchen based on my current ROMs....
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kristopherson:
That would be stellar!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] sclegend:
still using herald

i'm definitely still using the herald and thank god that juststable came out because i've been dealing with a turtle-like stupidphone for the past week.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Liath:
Hey I have been exploring the phone and found out that voice command isn't installed in JustStable. Did a little searching, and found out it isnt' in any of the ROMs since it is a paid program. That is cool and I understand that.

So, my question is if it is possible to extract the VC app from my original ROM, or if there is an alternative that is free and works. Since I already have my Voice Command software in the original rom, and it does work with the phone without issue, I'd like to go ahead and use it.

This a doable thing?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] dashgeek90:
im using mirolabs manila touchflo 2d wm6.1 on my wing im might try wm6.5 but idk i hear its buggy:p
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] bodyman:
I use my wing as a back up... I upgraded to the G1, but my son is at the age where he is ready for a cell phone and I am going to give him my wing (won't he be the envy of the kids at school -lol).
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Another G1 transferee. ;) I <3 my G1
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I'm not 100% sure if the MS VC is free or not. Usually, I don't include it because it takes up space and not many people use it. (I don't use it so I don't include it.)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] .mrwes:
To be honest, i wanted to throw my Herald away because I didnt had a good ROM. I always used Manila2D (installed cab) but never flashed before. My phone sucked and stuff.

BUTTT

then i saw Justhome. JustHome is like the best thing EVER XD. Im very glad that i installed it and everything works so smooth.

I recommend JustHome for EVERY Herald user.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kp72204:
Wing. new to community but i'm using wm 6.5. i never realized potential of phone till i saw stuff on youtube. Up for upgrade in JUL thinking G1 but i didn't know they were making Wing II so i might wait. Besides i'm having a blast learning how to flash and everything else. Thanks to all especially Ivan----your 1 rom away from having your own holliday
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] gustavosg:
I use wing too. But i'm using right now Windows Mobile 6.0 original ROM from HTC, because its on Brazilian Portuguese, and i'll gonna sell it to a friend in the future.

I'll gonna buy a HTC Touch Pro 2 (if VIVO sell it to me...), or else a HTC TyTN II.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] djbutcher:
Wing...my baby's far from obsolete. She's looking extra sexy with ivan's justhome...though I tend to switch between that and his juststable v2 rom...both are great, but I like showing off 6.5 on my *old* wing :p
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] raduque:
I have OT 7 with the 2d touchflow thingy, but I very rarely use it anymore. I have it unlocked and I swap my iPhones sim into it and use it to tether with my laptop.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] afn691:
A week ago I had a Kaiser ready to work, that I bought second-hand through the marketplace here in XDA-devs. I'm experiencing this strange sensation of wideness and speed.

But let's go to the Herald:

Mainly I continued using it because I have no money to buy another device. I'm working in architecture and building, and spend some hours in public transportation, so I can write the projects' documents, calculate some worksheets and draw small things about. I use it also for reading some e-books. And my small daughter likes to play with bubbleblreaker, draw some small sketches, listen to songs and see pictures.

I use the official WM 6.0 spanish but if I feel capable (not now!!) I'll do the hard-spl and radio mods to flash with one of Ivan's ROMs.

As I have 3 different SIM cards, I'll use both the Herald and the Kaiser and try to sell my other phones (they are 3 Siemens: s45, s45i, sk65-BB). Definitely changed to WM world.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] toadlife:
My wing is still chugging along. I'm using a custom ROM I built myself (My wing is truly one of a kind!) with a modified version of the JustMine Dual Kitchen by ivanmmj. I just bought a replacement black enclosure and a new screen and I am going to rebuild my wing. I plan on using it for at least another year until t-mobile's new windows mobile phone has been out for awhile and it available on ebay for a decent price.

EDIT: Just realized that that was my first post here!

Hi everyone! :0)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ShuShine:
New to Wing and New to XDA Dev.

Hi guys, I got my T-mobile wing phone for about a week now got it from my brother since he does not use it anymore.

Here's my setup.

JustHomeV11-Wing

Overclocked to 240mhz

Honeycomb

Google Map

Skype

Reg Editor

HTC Album

MS Office

Youtube

CleanRAM

i got this two .cab but i don't know what it does although I already installed one of them since the other wont install

JustHome RegEdits (Keeps current phone skin)

JustHome RegEdits Without Phone Skin

I also tried JustStable but JustHome is far easier to use.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
I'm helping to bring new life to our Wings!

Visit http://thewingster.com/default.aspx for everything Wing!

I'm gonna be sticking with my website project, so you can always trust it! And thanks for Ivan (JustHome) for making such awesome ROM's, they were what inspired me to make the site!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] xufeng:
20764 is the best
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] toadlife:
In my custom ROM, 20764 made my Wing choke every time I switched from portrait to landscape (shell32.exe would go to 60-100% CPU for a minute after switching). Updating my ROM's SYS and XIP to 21051 fixed the shell32.exe problem, and my phone has never run faster.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] 1135marcus:
im using ivan just home and it work good no bugs so far
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] mayurolla:
Using Ivan's JustHome and love every single bit of it! It is such a shame that he is no longer developing it. I am hoping he returns to 6.5 in the future because this thing is much faster than the stock t-mobile rom and has a much nicer UI and more finger friendly. I was looking for a replacement phone because I still have one more year before my contract is up but with this ROM I can safely say I can pull another year on this old wing lol.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] SSJ_Gomike:
Am now running v3 of Ivan's JustHome ROMs and its great....v11 was great too, but with v3 i can listen to music easier...

I wll probably keep this rom for a while till Ivan's SuperKitchen comes out...then i will probably build my own either based on build 21222 oe the newer 219xx