yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] poceh:
I'm not complaining about anything. That was just thoughts of mine regarding the starting of 6.5 ROMs. Even me earlier in this thread said to Dutty not to rush and hurry up with the releases before the bugs are sorted out (here). I thought I said it in the right way in my prevoius post, but I think I was misunderstood. Like Royan I'm also a software developer and I fully agree with him and his opinion on this:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClownShoes:
I didn't mean to direct my rant at you, but following Dannyng's comment, it was just an opportunity to state the current position of Team Dutty and remind everyone we are far from stopping development on the 6.1 roms.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BLfan:
ClownShoes, that is great news. I think the absence of Team Dutty over the bank holiday weekend has got some people worried but your words has definitely put my mind at rest. :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClownShoes:
Glad to hear it BLfan :)

There is also a group here on XDA for throy and his testers, where we do much of our conversation.

Also remember everyone, just because we're not always commenting on the board... doesn't mean we're not reading it!

Team Dutty is always watching...

:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lopikcz:
Mixed up long messages

Hi guys!

When you write SMS that is longer than 160 characters it is spllited to several parts. I have send my freind 3 messages which where longer 160. The first one was ok. In the second and third msgs those parts have been mixed up togther with the first message. I try to indicate what I mean.

(send => recieved)

1st SMS

A + B => AB

2nd SMS

C + D => CB

3rd SMS

E + F => EB (or ED don't remember that exactly)

Everytime I was using WM messagaing not Manila, no 3rd party apps, just plain ROM. In sent items everything seems ok. Also tried to another mobile number, operator and phone - the same.

Have anyone of you noticed this in V3.4?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClownShoes:
Guys, I've had a chat with Dannyng and discovered there was a bit of a communication break down this morning!

What Danny was trying to say was that he was "so pissed off" not telling everyone to piss off.

Anyway, just wanted to make this clear as I think in light of this our reactions wouldn't have been quite as strong :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
You've hit the nail on the head my friend :cool:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] akash_nu:
My GF has literally threatened me that she will take my HD for a power shower, next time... Lucky HD :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Good to know mate. Think a few of us jumped on the band wagon and lay into him a bit strong. On reflection this was wrong seeing how there was a communication breakdown.

@Dannyng - I offer my apologies

p.s. Also wanted to add to what Clownshoes stated about the beta team keeping an eye on this thread. Yes we always have one eye on this thread and the other talking amongst ourselves to find solutions. If you ever feel your queries aren't be answered PM me and I'll respond at my earliest convienience.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
Let's look at it this way, have you considered the possibility that perhaps Dutty is waiting for an update to certain software before releasing the final 6.1 version? Or perhaps this time there is going to be an extended beta testing period so we don't encounter the bugs that existed with previous "final" versions?

Whatever the reason is, I am content to wait for the final 6.1 whenever Duty feels is ready to be served. I really think that this is to my advantage as it means that I can setup my phone without having to worry about an update soon to fix further issues.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
I've never experienced this (well no friends have ever mentioned it). I have 2 HD's so I'll send a few messages back and forth to see if everything is ok

EDIT

Sent 10 random messages and everything seems fine i.e.

1st - 10th SMS

A + B => AB

EDIT 2

I should point out that I use one HD for personal use and one for testing. I sent test messages using V3.4 installed
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClownShoes:
Actually yes! Yes I have and I've been experiencing it since about 2. something or other!

the problem is my girlfriend is the only person to have ever mentioned it to me and I just blamed it on her phone :D

It looks like as the larger message is made up of lots of smaller ones, they should all be sent in order, but every now and again the order gets slightly messed up.

Interesting bug indeed
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pandemoniumone:
Dutty, Alltheway, Clownshoes, Cracwhore, Fallen Spartan and MattRob. Just wanted to express my thankfulness for what you've done for the community here. Devoting your time and knowledge as you've done deserves so much respect...especially those with families and GF's. Your families deserve our respect as well in that you giving us your time means they are giving up time with you.

I feel extremely privileged in having the opportunity to benefit from Dutty's amazing roms and from you who are able to fix the bugs that come up. Your technical abilities will never cease to astound me.

Dutty, you couldn't ask for a better team.

Respect to you all
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] akash_nu:
Not necessarily, the messages may not be sent sequentially. It depends on the network protocol to be honest. There could be a chance that the starting & ending flags might point to wrong packets.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lopikcz:
Anyway THANK you for testing Fallen!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
I thank you for your comments, but we aren't any better than any of you or other beta teams out there. Yes we spend a lot of time experimenting and testing, but if you read the wiki from top to bottom and played a lot with your phone, you'd know everything I do!! We just share our knowledge and collectively grow
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClownShoes:
Lopikcz, who is your provider? and how often do you get this problem?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Reading Clownshoes comments it appears to be a more common problem than I initially thought, though all my messages where over 160 characters. I just copied random documents and pasted them into my sms and each one arrived the way I sent it. Yes, I admit these were all sent in close proximity so I may need to do same test over greater lengths of time. I'll report back if I experience anything
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lopikcz:
"Glad" I'm not alone.. Same here, I blamed her phone, saying my HD can't do anything like that!:D

I have seen on an really old phone (not supporting these kind of sms) that they are recieved as several sms haveing some kind of 10 characters header (or footer can't remember) which I suppose is saying how to connect them back together.

However this is not the answer how to solve that:confused:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lopikcz:
O2 Czech Republic

Hard to say.. She told me just few days ago, and was refering to nearly every long sms I have sent. Let's say 60-80%??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] duttythroy:
Just reach home and noticed that I did put in the wrong nbh, i will uplaod the roms again give me couple hours, You willl definitely see the difference from R0
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Excellent mate, though take your time!!! ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] duttythroy:
For all who have downloaded the R1 ROM AGAIN, YOU WILL HAVE TO DOWNLOAD THE CORRECT ONE LATER SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION,

THANKS fallen spartan and team.

@Fallen Spartan where is my invite to my group:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lopikcz:
Didn't realize that.

Can't find the setting know, however I can remeber there is an option where you can choose if you prefer to send sms via GSM or via GPRS. I always leave GSM as it is default option. Maybe changing this setting could solve it.

Another question is, if changing to GPRS wouldn't cause additional costs when roaming when it is send as data? (I travel a lot)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pandemoniumone:
Good to hear sir, thank you!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClownShoes:
Alltheway was supposed to send you one mate. I've just messsaged him to send another one.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
LOL, I didn't even realise you hadn't joined yet. AllTheWay should have sent you a link

EDIT

I see Clownshoes already sent him a reminder. I just thought you were to busy to join mate!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lopikcz:
Was about to go to doctor for glasses, when finally found it -> Settings - Connections - Advance Network - SMS Service tab

Will try to select GPRS and test for few days. Hope I will not be suprised at the end of the month;)

Any other ideas appreciated!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jofo:
Does anyone know how to (if it's possible) to install the Compact qwerty on the new roms?

I really love my touch HD with Duttys rom, but i have big problems with the typing... I do remember the old compact qwerty that I thought was awesome. But now it's gone..

So please help me if you have a solution, or if anyone know if it's possible to make an cab with the compact qwerty for WVGA!

Dutty: Excellent work, looking forward to test your WM6.5 versions!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] manowar1978@gmail.com:
When the 3.5 version will be released?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClownShoes:
When it's ready! Please be patient :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ardsar:
If i had £1 for everytime i read this, i would have enough to go on a vacation (well not quite).

As stated before, it will be ready when its ready. There is no point anyone asking the same question over and over again.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] manowar1978@gmail.com:
I have not explained well.

I do not want know the exact date ... but only if it is forthcoming and consider if flash rom now with 3.4 or wait for 3.5 if it is coming.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nearlygod:
Unicode again and again and again

SO, it happend again.

I download all my emails and unicode works fine. I´m german and the emails are coded with "western european".

So a couple of days after that, unicode stops working and now all my new mails are crippled.

This happend to me to ALL Dutty Roms.

The crippled mails are coded with "western european" also.

Am i the only one?

nearly
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] akash_nu:
As stated here. Dont change that setting. Probably try a hard reset & do the network setup from scratch again...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
If you can, you should arrange for the sending and receiving devices to be on separate towers to give the packets some distance to travel.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
It depends on your operator. Some years ago I did switch to GPRS for SMS because it was cheaper but several months later the operator wizened up and disabled SMS over GPRS, I believe most allow SMS over GSM only.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] 55555:
No camera

Please, can anybody help me? I flash this 3,4 rom an i thought anything is fine, but now i see that my camera doesnt works. I cant start it. i see my pictures which i made whith the 3.3 rom but by pressing the camera or video button nothing happen. I made a hardreset but that doesnt help. Has anyone any idears? I love this rom" what did i wrong?

Thanks very, very much for your help!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lopikcz:
Thanks for comment, will try to get info from operator.

By any chance, haven't you experience the problem I described earlier? (mixed up sms longer than 160 char)?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
I haven't had this problem for a while but I vaguely remember something like this happening a couple of years ago. It wasn't a WM device though, it was Symbian/UIQ3, at the time I thought that the receiving phone was not capable of combining the multipart SMS properly.

One more point for unicode users, your operator may be charging you double (or allowing you 80 characters/SMS) if you use unicode - mine does. If I use even a single unicode character, my standard message length is 80 characters, on 81st character it switches over to SMS-2.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] akash_nu:
has any of u faced any issue with the network signal? The signal strength seems to be really poor & some times it does not even pick up any signal, but if i install some other ROM then it shows full bar. And this could possibly be related to the battery usage issue...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
The network signal indicator may not be functioning properly either, just like the battery indicator. Having said that, both battery and signal indicators (default icons) seem to be working OK with me.

You should check actual reception (can you make a call?) to see whether the low signal indicator really means low.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] akash_nu:
actually even i thought that, but sitting at the same place when v3.4 shows no signal at all (AND I CAN NOT MAKE ANY CALLS EITHER), the topix 2.1 ROM shows full bar with awesome reception. Tried Damn Small Topix as well which showed good reception. Thats why I posted my concern here.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bond_guy_2002:
Hey buddy :-) ... You know what? We're on the same side of the fence. I'm ust playing clown to entertain the folks here whilst v3.5 is properly cooked to lock the best flavours in ... I fully understand the situation. Good stuff takes time - like diamonds and wine.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Benkei:
sms problem

Hi everyone, first time I flashed my ROM and after checking the forums I chose Dutty's for my Touch HD. So, first of all thanks very much to Dutty, Crackwhore, Godzson and nanoo-egg as my Touch HD finally looks the way I want it and runs the way I want it.

Unfortunately, there is one small issue with my sms-ing now. Sending and receiving of sms is not constant. I have instances in which the other person does not receive my sms and vice versa. But half of the time it seems to work and it seems to work better when I am using the WM interface, instead of the TF3D interface created by Dutty.

Does anyone have an idea where the problem could be? Before flashing it was 100% reliable but I prefer to keep this Dutty ROM.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
This is a known bug which has just materialised since V3.4. New V3.5 should be released soon with sms working. You have chosen a good rom as Duttys IMHO are the best. I'd perhaps flash V3.3 which doesn't have this bug until V3.5 is released
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Benkei:
Thanks

Thanks for the quick reply! I'll wait for the new version as this flashing business takes really long when I do it. I'm not a technical guy so this website is great. :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
When you say 'flashing business takes to long' do you mean the actual process or the restoring of apps, tweaks etc?

Do you use any 3rd party apps like Sprite or SPB Backup for pim info etc?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] SorX14:
Randomly, after flashing to 3.4 I found that Windows Media Player will pop-up with a dialogue that says, 'Cannot find the file. The file might have been moved, renamed, or deleted. If the file is stored on a server or a removable storage card, the server or card might not be available' when I restart the program. Sometimes it'll even have the album art of the last track I was playing.

I hard reset three times, still happened. Reflashed, hard reset three times, and its still happening.

Not a huge problem, but the sound that the dialogue box makes is deafening with headphones in.

I'm trying now formatting my SD card, even though the problem will occur if I'm playing files off either the internal memory or SD card.

Any ideas?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
I've never used windows media on the HD so cannot help on that one. Just tried using it and worked fine. Sorry mate
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Benkei:
The flashing itself took long last time because I was having crackwhore's walkthrough in one hand and the phone in the other, which made typing difficult. ;)

Tweaks was also something I had to figure out. Speaking of tweaks, aside from nanoo-egg's walkthrough for creating *.png files for background images that work in landscape, is there another, easier way of using wallpapers that work in landscape?

As to backups, I'm only concerned with pictures, contacts, texts and agenda. Used PIM backup for that and export the pics regularly.

I guess next time it will be quicker. :cool:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] rb0135:
V3.4 and Bluetooth connections

Hi All...

Can anyone confirm if it is the V3.4 ROM or the 1.14 Radio that comes with the V3.4 ROM that is causing this problem:

I use a Bluetooth carkit which worked perfect with V3 of Dutty's Rom and I think v1.13... radio. It would connect automatically by itself each time I got in the car and disconnect without any prompt (yes, I know about this) when I get out of the car.

Now on V3.4, it NEVER automatically reconnects. It will connect once, stating that the Bluetooth CarKit wants to connect. I accept the connection, assign it as the default hands free headset and it works until I get out of the car. Getting back into the car, the two wont even connect.

I have gone back to V3, but kept the radio at 1.14 and the same thing is still happening.

I am sick or trying different ROMs, etc to get this functionality back.

Can anyone offer an assistance, or confirm what is causing this? Maybe there is now an option turned off in V3.4 that should be turned on for the auto-connect, but I am sure I have all tick (accept all beams, allow this device to be discovered, etc).

I am willing to try anything to get this functionality back.

Thanks,

Rob
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
I suppose practice makes perfect. Generally takes me about 5 mins to flash new rom and approximately another 5-10 mins for all pim, email, apps, tweaks etc to be restored. But then again I do flash about 3-5 roms, sometimes more per week.

As for creating backgrounds, not something I really have time for. Did it once and keep using same images no big deal for me. I spend to much time testing roms and apps to do this. Sorry mate
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Nasher79:
Yes! I cannot reccommend this tool by Maranello highly enough. Amazing results..

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=503511
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Ati75:
Did you try flashing the 1.13 radio? Since going back to 3.0 with the same radio doesn't improve things for you, i would try reverting back to 1.13 radio.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Nice find. I'm sure others including Benkei will benefit using this ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] rb0135:
I have flashed on V3.3 and will test that.. If the same occurs, I'll drop the Radio version and see if that fixes it.. I am leaning more to thinking it is the radio version, but wanted to see if anyone has had the same issue.

Thanks,

Rob
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] darkblue68:
Is it normal or sms is not working?

Thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Known bug. Doesn't affect all for some reason and should hopefully be fixed for final release V3.5
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] trinityb4:
I'm now using v3.3 bluetooth connection is perfect. whenever there's a call comes in, I turn on my bluetooth it connects and answer automatic. very good rom I must say.

and while I'm writing this post I'm actually listening to my usher album via sony bluetooth stereo headset. phone is connected to wifi. everything works fine!

so I bet v3.4 had to skip.

waiting 4 v3.5 and see what happens.

cheers dutty's v3.3
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pandemoniumone:
I'll vouch for this! Been using Maranell0's tool for a while now for high quality backgrounds and it makes all the difference! Amazing tool with beautiful results for our HD's!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sunnyou:
hi sry for asking a noob question, in the process of learning, the radio version is included in the rom? as in it will upgrade itself? currently i am using a 1.18 rom and spl version is 1.54.0000 , i am thinking of hspl it 1.56 by olinex and den install dutty's v3.4. All the info i got is regarding the rom, i want to know will it affect the radio or anything? what is radio actually used for? do i have to flash radio separately? and for radio is it by HTC as in stock radio or is there cooked radio?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Your method is correct. If you have 1.54.0000, use 1.56 HSPL then flash Duttys rom. Latest radio (1.14.25.24) is included with rom. You can revert back to other radio versions if you prefer. They can be found in wiki (link to radios can be found in my signature under 1.14.25.24)

Generally speaking a new radio should provide better reception, gps fix and improved battery though this will depend on your location and country as some radio's work better in some areas than others. Each thread on each particular radio should provide more info on this for you as well as confirmation by others as to how reception is in certain areas/countries
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ucarcamagno:
one question: sms bug is an occasional bug or is an "always bug"?

in other words: if i send a sms for test, and it works fine, can i tell that i have not this bug? or this bug is occasional?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Good question. To be honest I'm not totally sure about that one. I haven't got this issue, never have! Been very fortunate. But my understanding is, that you will know if you have it or not and its permanent i.e. it is not occasional.

I have 2 HD's and I have tried flashing Duttys V3.4, R0 & R1 countless times on both and I'm yet to experience it once. This means its very hard for me to find solution.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] goldlocke:
Have not yet experienced the SMS bug on my HD Dutty 3.4XT ship ROM.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pandemoniumone:
I have not experienced this sms bug either. Although I use SMS Chat for texting, not manila.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] LoopyLoo:
More to the SMS Bug?

I, like many other people on this thread, have posted about the failure to send an SMS in the new manila, whilst apparently having no problems in the old manila.

But I've just realised that, in my case at any rate, this is not the whole story. It seems as though I can send an SMS using the old manila and get a failure response notification every time, yet the SMS _is_ actually delivered!!!???

Maybe others have already noted and posted to this effect too, in which case, apologies for the repetition. And I've seen talk on other threads about this problem being associated with the manila versions, but does anyone know which version exactly? And how/where can I determine my manila version?

I've already sent numerous duplicate SMS's due to this bug and its really starting to annoy me!

(not blaming Dutty or anyone here, just looking for enlightenment/options).

LL
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
sms bug is with manila version 2.1

Go to 'Settings' Tab and scroll down to 'About'. It will state TouchFLO 3D 2.1.38147.5 duttys

In my case it is version 2.1
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tongphan:
hi does any one has delay on answering incoming calls issue, like when incoming calls i pressed answer key but it tooks about 2 to 3 seconds it to connected some one know how to resovles thanks