yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Detroit_Doug:
Not really ... sucks it will be pricey, but thats the risk of having tech that isnt native to your location - sounds like the options :

1) check out cost of the hardware replace rather than speculate without actual data of cost

2)If it does cost more than a different Vogue, then get a different Vogue

3)Purchase a Charger base with extra battery via ebay or amazon was about 20$USD for that option for me

From all the suggestions you really dont have any additional options software wise so with eliminating software that only leaves hardware

Detroit Doug
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] ckl_88:
I'm not familiar with US carriers, but you're on Sprint and not living in the USA? Could it be that your phone is constantly roaming? That's a real battery drain right there.

Also, if you're battery is draining that fast, the phone should be warm to the touch... especially the back cover where the battery is.

I suggest that in order to make sure that it's not your battery, you should download and install a free utility called ACBPowerMeter located here:

http://www.acbpocketsoft.com/Products/acbPowerMeter/acbPowerMeter-Overview-2.html

This utility will tell you how much power is being consumed at any given time. For myself, I have push email setup so my data connection is always on. My power usage is somewhere between 80mA with the backlight on and around 50mA with the backlight off.

try for yourself and see what the power consumption is.

Thanks.
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] A.J:
hey all

how you doin ?

sorry about im not here all the time little busy these days with college :D

anyway here is an update for the customaztion rom 6.1 for htc opal hope you like it

Download Link :

http://rapidshare.com/files/222112210/VIVA__WM6.1__1_27_707_14__B21042_BS.rar

Password :

PhamQuang
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] mirchichamu:
Already posted here.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=505361
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] fukaizheng:
good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] jimenezboy:
I'll download this version of WinMo 6.1, 6.5 bored the crap out of me: Media Player doesn't play videos, task manager shortcut not working, file explorer hangs,drains battery like it's on a paycheck, very slow, full of useless stuff.
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] freelancer81:
i agree

he he he he!!! i quite agree with ya...wm 6.1 is fast, doesn't drain battery like 6.5 and less buggy (or no bugs at all). will pause further testing till a solid, stable rom is released (officially!!!)
[General Questions and Answers] quicksite:
Ivan, wizard of ultraslim ROMS for Herald and Wing, has been perfecting his latest ROM. He's eliminated everything non-essential, and it is very stable.

I asked him "can't you dump WMP? Most people use other music & media players" (because WMP is so poorly designed from user-experience perspective). He said as far as he knows, WMP is required simply to produce the ringtones.

But has anyone at XDA ever found an alternate, slimmer (and less resource hogging) method to play ringtones, allowing the hacking out of WMP?

I'm not afraid to be a Dummy. But I sure hope the answer is: "Yes, see dutty's rom xyz" or something like that :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Stalix:
I there any way to make a microsd card visible in the phone while connecting the phone in Disk card mode to a computer. Kinda like "Card Export II". But seems very simple to do like have the card switch to read-only mode on the phone when connected. Or if you can have read and right on both the phone and computer that would be amazing.

So does anyone see this possible?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] XERO_Racer:
im afraid that its not possible atm, since the computer is using the SD card as an extra HD to transfer files, and i had that come across all the time, i know its a pain especially if ure exporting pictures or wallpapers and try to see if itll fit or look nice on ur TP or FUZE but ya man it wont work, unless u can google it up and see if its possible, would be nice
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] darfri:
The latest wm5torage does that. Only you need to run it and forget about the beautiful popup for selecting usb mode
[Networking] american.swan:
I am having trouble with my Samsung M480(Epix?). The problem is networking/internet. I have a technical background so generally this stuff is a breeze and wiki could answer any of my specific questions. The problem is all the advanced connection settings(VPN and such) are in Korean.

Are there any "English" screen shots of these settings? I have looked a bit and couldn't find much.

Thanks for your time.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
Hi... With less and less new ROM development for the Wing/Herald, it appears this hardware is being slowly but surely abandoned by XDA users. One sees 20,000 view counts for various ROMS here, but, just for example, the newest Herald/Wing ROM about to be released is Ivan's JUST STABLE.

Questions have been put before the audience of those likely to use this ROM, and there can't possibly be more than 8-10 regular users giving feedback.

Please help explain if demand has ground to a halt for these devices, simply by replying, and simply stating which ROM you currently use... and will you be switching again, or are you settled with your existing phone configuration.

thank you
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] rdleezy:
ive been trying out ivans unofficial roms lately. theyve been badass so far. im jus waiting on a lite or clean, finished version......
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Peewee43:
I use gullums latest rom its great and cant find any bugs
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] vi3tshiet:
ive been using ivans justme rom.. its really fast and i have no problems with it... im waiting for his 6.5
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Mijisu:
I just tried Ivan's JustcHome yesterday and Im using his 15v2w from his mediafire account. And so far they are nice but like what rdleezy said, Im waiting on a finished product.

I was running OTP 7.7 Manilla 2D Biggy before I tried them.

And Im pretty sure there's still a big demand out there.

Maybe people are just busy with other stuff.

Or maybe they are satisfied with their ROMs, but if something better and faster comes out, Im pretty sure people will be back. =)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] razorbone:
Using Herald

using Herald here.. with Ivan's JustCHome unofficial release.. and its really one great bad ass rom! really like using this beta release so far. coupled with WM7 Titanium project, Ferrari Theme.. really works super wonderful! Thanks to Ivannnn!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] DestructDez1:
Personally, I think the Wing/Herald is a dying breed. The Wing is still my most used phone in my collection. Regardless of the demand, I still expect that there will be new and improved content for the wing every so often. So hearing that there is less movement in the scene is just expected. There is newer technology out there that is better and faster in every way than the wing and herald. But it is the developers that decided how much of the captivated audience will stick to the current "dated" phones.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
I totally agree -- and I discovered this in several ways: (1) when I replaced my MDA (prior generation phone) with the Wing two years ago, lo and behold it had the exact same processor and RAM -- there was no core improvement in the power of the device. The ergonomics were improved, and so on, but it was always an overly-priced phone compared the the MDA, which had almost the same guts. I remember complaining up the management chain to T-Mobile about this, and they they delivered the news back to me:

That in America the culture is very different than in Europe where people buy expensive phones at closer to their retail costs, but they are unlocked and not tied to a service provider -- vs in the USA -- consumers are used to less-expensive phones, so the carriers must heavily subsidize the costs of the phones with 2 year service contracts. Thus the iphone went down to an unheard of $199. ... When I was in Central Europe 2 years ago, people in Serbia, Hunary, Romania were buying far greater phones than I could even get in USA -- but they paid the direct costs....and they had phones completely 1 generation ahead of mine, with twice the processing power and RAM.

and (2) I stated to see the winding down of the Wing/Herald new ROM flow about 9 months ago... yet would still see huge activity in, for exmaple, the HTC Kaiser section here. When I asked some people about that, here in this forum, it was explained then again "but the Kaiser's a more powerful phone so it's still got more extended life capability".

All of this makes sense... But what doesn't make sense is that T-Mobile is STILL selling their obsolete phone model The Wing, for the same $350 with 2-year contract they did 2 years ago. That's only because they can get away with doing this because the American market is way less sophisticated in knowldge of higher end phones. This is what I have learned.

Yet, at the end of the day, the WING *can*, when operated on fast ROM, perform all the functions I need -- and it STILL has video and MMS messaging when even the 3G iphone did not. So, for me, in the same way Americans are now, inthese economic times, stopping buying new cars and instead keeping their cars for 2-3-4 more years, getting them repaired instead, so too I am keeping my WING and using it til I really need a new phone.

All of this is why I am thankful to those who are still cooking for the Herald/Wing... I've only been monitoring Ivan's new "Just Stable" after using 2 prior versions from the PDAviet site.

hey thanks for commenting folks... I think it's good to take stock and see what the demand IS here :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
It'll work for sure within the next few days. He's close to wrapping up a beta release, and he's definitely committed to both devices.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
That's cool. so, THIS one, right?

[23/08-08] Throttle Diamond II 13 languages ( 1 2)

gullum

Downloads: 14,657
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] peter.aviano:
Aserg's Rom

I use Aserg's Rom. I have used all versions of Open Touch but keep going back to Aserg's rom due to speed and reliability.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Zaknafein21:
I still use papamopps latest ROM but i will try ivanmmj´s wm 6.5 when it´s done.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Chongie:
Hi Guys,

I used different different roms on my herald in the past.

I used OTP 7.4 and 7.7.

Am now testing every release Ivan brings out (both JustStable and JustChome)....

The one I am looking forward to the most is JustChome..

If I decide to buy another phone. I am definiately staying with windows Mobile...

The HTC Touch Pro2 is a good candidate.....

See Ya all...

Chongie
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] dougstoner:
I'm currently using Ivan's Justme, and I must say I love it. When juststable releases, I'm sure I'll flash that. I was a big OTP fan, and still am, but Ivan's roms seem to be extremely stable and fast. :)

On a side note, I've grown tired of my wing, and have been thinking about the new Touch pro 2, but I bet it will be super expensive when released.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] illconcepts:
i was running OTP 7.5 pro for a while but now i run ivan JustCHome
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] nonpaq:
WING user

i bought my WING from TMO late in its life (< 1 yr ago) . I expelled the TMO default rom within the first week of purchase. I change ROMs like I change clothes. I used papamopps for a while. I stuck with OPT ROMs also for a time. Tested Aserg's Roms. Alpha tested JustStable. Now on to JustcHome, because I like to be on the cutting edge. Overall I like the WING, and pleasantly surprised what a low powered PPC/Phone device can do. I'm looking foward to the rumored WING II when I can upgrade (I hope it is not overpriced, but drooling over 3G possibilities).
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] retepger:
I have tried pretty much all the ROM's made here, with the exception of JustMe, JustcHome and others by Ivan. I haven't tried those because they require more in depth knowledge then all the others I have tried. And i don't have the time to learn it all.

I really like Aserg's stuff, for the amount of functionality you get and still have a lot of space is quiet amazing. It is fast, stable and I have been running it for several month without a hitch.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
Is there anyone here who has used both Aserg's stripped down roms -- and Ivan's current "Just Stable" rom? I am curious to see if one is speedier than the other, or has more ram than the other (after installing apps you use).
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Peewee43:
If im not mistaken, Yes thats the one. I tried them all except for Ivans latest, but im waiting on him to come out with his finished clean version. Ivans was the first

i used. I need to touch on all these people downing the wing, IT WAS THE **** WHEN A BOUGHT IT AND YOU STILL USING IT SO WHY HATE ON YOURSELF WAIT TILL YOU GET THE NEW PHONE OR GIVE UP THE WING THEN DIS IT. iM STICKING TO ANY WING THAT TOUCHDOWN. As soon as the wing II comes out im getting it. Wing III come out im gettin it. And just watch when Wing IV comes out... LMAFO!!!!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Corvidus:
I used Gullum's for a while but am stuck with OTP 7.7 since the release - it's quite nice but a little slow and cramped at times imho.

Would have started beta-testing Ivan's new rom but I dont have the time right now and cant afford reflashing constantly .. So I have to wait for the final :-)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] nonpaq:
What are the spec of the WING IV? When is it expected to come out?

Listen, the WING is a great device, made better by all the cooks of the various ROMs, but it has its hardware limitations. The next device will have a better screen (flushed without a bevel), more memory, better CPU, and best of all 3G radio. I can just imagine how much better it will be once the cooks strip out all the T-mobile junk from the rom.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] livndeadgrl13:
personally ill flash just about anything new that comes out from any cook lol, just to see whats out there, right now im using ivans juststable 15v2 and love it :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] R_phAn:
I'm still using a Herald. A genuine P4350, running a PDAVIET release. Before that I used to run Itje's iterations of Touch-It and OTP, but since the inclusion of Manila2D I find pdaviet to be a *lot* more stable to be honest. Only problem with it is that I keep running into low memory problems every few days, but a soft reset solves that.

All in all my Herald rarely disappoints. It has been back for repair a couple of times though, but it has always been repaired under warranty, no questions asked.

After two years I'm still very happy with my device. It's always with me and rarely ever quits on me. Battery life is still impressive - I barely ever don't make it through the day.

But soon the Touch Pro II will replace my trusty handset. And doom it to.. well, I don't know. My drawer, probably.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] jtarango1:
im using ivans justhome and have been rather impressed with it...it is an early release of the rom and i have not encountered ant major bugs other than not being able to send mms, i can receive them but not send....i highly recommend it
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] v5HMeca:
The newest ROM about to be released is Pepperland. http://cleanimport.xda/index.php?threads/507789/

There is also JustStable coming soon.

That's not to mention that one was just released on the 18th, and another one released sometime in March.

All in all, I'd say that activity around here is just fine.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] DestructDez1:
Just Home is the ROM I am waiting for. I've used almost every ROM released since I joined this site. OP, OTP, Papa Black, and the "Just" ROMs are my favorites that I rotate every 2 weeks.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] h4xdaplanet:
I have a wing, running OTP 7.5
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] bishoprnpb:
wing, using ivans's fast justhome build. fast 6.5 version thee only one 6.5 ive tried was pdaviet's personelly,this is way more clean and stable
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] accountabc:
I am using the

ROM HERALD WWE 6.1 BUILD 20764.1.4.3 (Blue clear)

I like it, but sometimes my device runs out of memory (usually when i want to show some pictures to friends :P)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] mekstro:
I'm using f1rick's 21040.1600 rom with my Herald and found that to be the best choice for me. Rock solid and doesn't bloat the phone too much. Installed Mobile Shell on top of that and now I'm satisfied with a very usable phone!

Probably won't flash until there is a 6.5 that I can live with ;-)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
Just curious: when you rotate every 2 weeks, how do you handle the reconfiguration of your apps and themes and preferences? Do you use Sashimi, or other auto-installation app, to save all your caps, registry entries, etc, so that the next time you flash, the reinstallation of all your stuff is made simple?

i ask because for me it is very very time consuming to re-set up my phone after flashing....
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
This is the one from the chef "thanhy", right? That was his first ROM, he got accused of copying someone else's, turns out he didn't, but that must have sent him packing. As far as I know he's never been back, which is a shame because surely he's modified that ROM several times over since he first posted it, i think in February. I liked it too, and I used it for 4-5 months as I was discovering the touchFLO manila interface.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Xystance:
OTP 7.7 Lite

I've been using OTP 7.7 Lite, but it gets slow occasionally (especially when browsing contacts) so I've been looking to upgrade.

Reading all the responses in this thread helps me decide to look up Senor Ivan's releases.

Thanks!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] DestructDez1:
LOL I used to have the problem but not after I stopped caring what I had on the last rom. I have a 8GB mc that holds all my roms and cabs. I have categorized all the cabs into what I think i need and want for certain purposes. Sometimes the only thing i use is PIM backup.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] izzzy12k:
I'm using OTP 6.5, waiting for a finished version of windows mobile 6.5
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] thedudejdog:
i use aserg roms, i had carbon for a long time and today i tested justchome and now i'm flashing just2clean

i change roms about every month and am looking forward to the new wm6.5 when its stable
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] qngds:
f1rick rom

I've been playing with Ivan's' roms, have used otp(?) 7.7 and have also used pdaviet's roms as well. Currently, I'm using f1rick's 21040.1600. I put spb mobile shell 3, and am pretty happy with speed and battery. Of course, I see there's a new version of his ROM, so I guess I'll be flashing again this weekend. I use Sashimi to auto install most cabs, but I learned the hard way that anything needed a reset after install is better installed by hand.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
Re: "Waiting for Ivans Windows 6.5 ROM" ---- just curious: why?

I have tried to follow the 6.5 pros and cons for the past 4-5 months. I know the initial ROMS released to XDA were very buggy. I also know that Ivan will nail it.

My question is: are there inherent advances in the operating system "kernel" or whatever its called that make it, for sure, a better operating system for our phones?

What I know:

* graphically: new today screen uses a scrollable list of large-type text with the email, calendar, etc functions all on separate lines, and finger-accessible.

* I know there is a new scrolling system that eliminates a scrollbar (finally), and instead invokes a pop-up scroll system that is large & finger friendly

* I also know about the honeycomb, which MS quickly retreated from after their own WM team employees bawked at how stupid the lined grid was. And that they have left the staggered arrangement, but pretty much eliminated the honeycomb shape.

So, aside from those things:

* is it faster?

* is it more efficient in its memory management?

* is there an overhauled "new COntact" interface?

* Has "Pictures and Videos" been improved so I can assign ANY folder I want as my primary folder, like on my storage card, and not force me to navigate thru "my photos" etc?

* Are there entirely new features?

I know there are tons of review articles out there, but those of you waiting for Ivan's 6.5, what is it specifically you are waiting for... hopefully it's more than "it's the latest thing" :D
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] hoolahoous:
using pdaviet rom on my wing.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ghostnj:
ive been using ivans justme rom.. its really fast and i have no problems with it
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
I'm using JustcHome 6.5 on my phone and I love it! I was using OTP 7.7 before, but it got too slow and way too buggy for me. All of the new features shown in the videos are pretty much the only new features you will find in these builds. Windows Media Player still looks the same, and the photo thing still uses the same picture folder.

As I said, this ROM is supposedly a very early alpha, but I can actually tell you that without overclocking, this ROM is a lot faster than OTP 7.7, which I might add was overclocked to 247mhz...

I'm just anxiously awaiting the next build! :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] dirtisgood:
I'm doing the same

I was waiting for 6.5 for a while, but for the last two months, I haven't had a working touch screen. (installing new one this morning, also looking for what new roms are out) I was also using OTP 6.5, but lately it is very unstable, making the phone unusable for the last two days. I do a soft reset, it shows the current time, and stays at that time, nearly unresponsive after that, and will not sync with any PC anymore.

What's new? What's good? What's better? I just need a stable rom, large or small. No fancy features needed in the rom, I have apps for that.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
I'm using gullumTF2D_II_Herald. This is the third rom so far that I have flashed on here. And so far I think, not only aesthetically, this rom wins. I have used Touch-It roms and The Canon rom to Hard-Spl my device. Kudos to the Cooks - Will be donating to them as well if they have a way of donating to.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] glebv:
I am still using ICP-Touch 2.0 on my 2 year old Wing. It has been a while since I have flashed a new ROM :o This ROM has served me well for all this time and if it wasn't for college I would have changed to a newer one a long time ago. I also have to say that I am very thankfull to all the people who dedicate their time to these ROMs (chefs, testers, people who answer questions, etc). With this website I would never be able to appreciate the true power of WM (considering how horrible T-Mobiles ROM was, and maybe still is).

Wing is a good phone, but it never compared to the offerings of other carriers in the sense that it was underpowered. In any case, it was still a nice change to the MDA and it was my first WM phone. But the time has not been kind to it, some from buttons don't work anymore (call and end) for example, but it is still pretty usable. I am hoping to get Wing II when it comes out or soon after that.

This website made the phone great and I hope everyone keeps up their good work.

Sorry for the rant (I wonder if the rant is the right word to use for this)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
That's not a rant. That's a tribute! ... to the XDA community
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] glebv:
I knew I was getting my vocabulary messed up. :o

Note to self: posting late with lack of sleep is not a good idea.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] exxell:
Guys I've also be waiting for the 6.5 for Herald but is seems not coming i hope ivnnmj will release his soon. otherwise I start one myself
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] TeLLuB:
Using Open touch

Using Open touch