yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G1 Android Development] MarcusMaximus04@gmail.com:
Heh, it's "ls -l" not "ls -1"(took me a while to find what was going wrong, damn l's and 1's looking alike). Also that "ln -s" on the second page was a typo(didn't notice I put that till now), I meant "ls -l" at that point as well.

NOTE: just so there's no confusion it should be a lowercase L, not a number 1.
[G1 Android Development] Strapt:
LOL ,,, damn ,, thanks for clearing that up ,,, I was really wondering why that wasnt matching ,,, but I still think I am missing some of those lines you mentioned with that ln -l code I did edit my last post which is the very bottom of page 14, if you could take a look into that I would appreciate it very much, and again I did try and move the apps and the cache as well as the dalvik-cache too ,, thanks!
[G1 Android Development] madunix:
i followed everything step by step, everything seemed to go well... but all of my apps just keeps force closing... if not all... most of them.
[G1 Android Development] Strapt:
ok so i ended up doing an wipe and installed another version on the phone .. so my question is

does doing a wipe UNDO everything that was done doing the code from the moving apps to sd using the manual way???

I need to know because I am going to put the version i had back onto the phone and try again with your method... and also please look at that updated post I did on page 14 with that new info you asked for. Thanks
[G1 Android Development] KyleK29:
Asked (but didn't get answered) - what's the point of moving the Dalvik-Cache to the SD card? Since we aren't using that free space for apps ..

Save on wear/tear for the phones flash?
[G1 Android Development] ginopr82:
What is dalvik-cache?

I am fairly new to all this and have hadd success so far in modding my phone. Thank you guys! I have done the appstosd2. I haven't transfered my dalvik-cache to the sd card yet. What is dalvik-cache? How does this benefit me? Will this cause me problems in the long run if I want to go back and unroot it and put it back to factory out of box original state with Original firmware? Sorry if I used the wrong terminoligy.
[G1 Android Development] M3 SMGII:
I just typed all the steps in terminal emulator and in boot emulator.

I already had saved my apps on my sdcard when i was using RC9, now i'm using The Dude's ADP1.5

But I noticed, before i had 40mb free space on my phone, now after installing apps i have 20mb free space.

How does it come or did I something wrong?
[G1 Android Development] ctecamp:
Moving cache back to internal

I have apps and cache on the sdcard and everything works, it just is a little sluggish especially openhome. When leaving a app it usually asks if I want to force close or wait.

If I wait it comes back up in a few seconds.

I have a class 2 sdcard, so the question is would it be better to put my cache's back on the internal memory and just run apps from sd?

If so, what would be the proper command sequence to do this?

I don't want to screw up here.

Thanks

Tim

running jf1.5 build with openhome
[G1 Android Development] jj71787:
i partioned my sd card and installed the zip file of appstosd and all the apps disappeared so i restarted my phone and now its just on the android screen and keeps going lack then back to the android screen
[G1 Android Development] jj71787:
sorry double post
[G1 Android Development] jj71787:
i think i got it i wiped my phone and now i have 463mb internal memory

and 485mb on sd card
[G1 Android Development] bhilgeman:
I enter the cmds into terminal but when I reboot my phone I hit alt L and do not have an option for Alt X. When I hit Alt X it does nothing...
[G1 Android Development] aphongs:
me too,somebody please help me thanks anhd regards
[G1 Android Development] Mr.Jigolo:
apps-to-sd on jf 1.51

i had apps-to-sd working as i moved my apps to sd card. i was on jf 1.5 ROM. since i moved to jf 1.51, i believe i noticed internal memory went down from 63mb to 62mb. the apps-to-sd app doesn't seem to work anymore.

any ideas?
[G1 Android Development] joe v:
I had to fast forward to the last page cuz I couldn't stop laughing at this even made me tear up. Man this great comedy!!
[G1 Android Development] otto888:
Thanks. This will allow me to use the leaked hero build. In the 1st step of the term emu,i didn't see system/sd(its there...) but it still worked. :\
[G1 Android Development] JRudnik:
aphongs, what build are you running??

JF's build somehow (idk what it is called, specifically) has a new bootloader. It has a black background, and it has the ability to ALT+X. I updated to his 1.51, and it stuck when I jumped to Haykuro's 6.0r1 (and shamefully the leaked Hero rom. Thanks, xdan. Now we cant be seduced by that.. sexxy screenshots... =) ).

Idk man I cant help all of y'all. You gotta help yourself. This is getting stupid. Be adventurous. Grow some balls. But, think before you act. I do, and I have no bricks. Oh, and dont brick your phone. Not cool.
[G1 Android Development] MarcusMaximus04@gmail.com:
Wow, seems like there's a sudden influx of old bootloaders(1.43 was the version where JF added the terminal; that was months and months ago). Without that... well... I suppose you could do it in adb(mount data not needed anymore). I put that part as recovery terminal 'cause it's a little more safe and I don't particularly like screwing with things the system relies on while it's fully up and running. But without recovery terminal... I guess there's no other way
[G1 Android Development] mexpress22:
new but obsessed

I had the same problem not having access to jf custom recovery. All i did was dl the recover image and install just like when preparing root access the first time and voila...now i can finish the process and use apps2sd. I hope this helps.
[G1 Android Development] METHOD1911:
su

cd /system/sd/

ln -s whe i try this i get ln target name whats wrong with this
[G1 Android Development] MarcusMaximus04@gmail.com:
Oh crap, I meant "ls -l"(those are both lowercase L's, not 1's), sorry
[G1 Android Development] lilwill2806:
loop at android boot screen after -Apps-to-SD in Recovery Terminal

im using the google ion ver. 2 and went through the steps to move apps/cache and when final reboot goes i wait forever and al i get is boot loop is this normal
[G1 Android Development] smsrat84:
Ok, I got this to work, after some reflashing of an older ROM, then updated, then got the apps to sd to work. What I want to do is start over, with the ext2 partition of the card; i.e. remove all apps that have been saved. Is it possible to do it from the phone? Would this even be a question for this thread?
[G1 Android Development] samethsom:
I'm having a problem, it's still stuck on the G1 screen, and when i followed your tutorial, i didn't get any errors at all....:confused:

i tried a wipe, still stuck, should i reflash the rom i was using?
[G1 Android Development] bdaboy338:
i got it working, had the cache on the sd, but it was lagging like hell, so i moved it back. now i got 50 MB free when i put the cache back on. but its moving way faster now.

BUT im getting alot of force closing, is that normal, or is there a problem?
[G1 Android Development] mickeycobra04:
i keep looping:( need help please
[G1 Android Development] Jak Crow:
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[G1 Android Development] mkolonko:
how can i put the dalvik cache back to device?

i tried with the reverse sequence:

busybox cp -a /system/sd/dalvik-cache /data/ -> this worked

busybox cp -a /system/sd/data /data/ -> didnt work

could someone please post the right way for setting the cache back?
[G1 Android Development] agent-5:
Custom ROM

Hey Forum,

I've read its quite dangerous to move the Davlik-Cache but would like to try it anyway. I'm using MoDaCo's 2.8 Custom ROM and therefore have Apps2SD installed by default. AFAIK Apps2SD does not do Davlik, therefore would it be safe to just execute the commands listed here which relate to Davlik?

Also, my Hero is reporting (via settings and a widget) that I only have used 26MB of my 165MB internal memory (52 apps installed), so it would appear that Cache2SD and Apps2SD is working fine. However, when I browse the device using Root Explorer Apps, PrivateApps and Davlik are shown to not be on the SD card. Is this something to do with Symbolic links or is there a problem?

Thanks in advance everyone! ;)
[G1 Android Development] agent-5:
Sucess!

The last time I tried this code with MoDaCo's ROM I bricked my phone and had to do a full wipe/reinstall. I think there was a conflict with Apps2SD. With that in mind, I thought I'd try the following (my notes) and only run the code which relates to Dalvik as Apps2SD is already taken care of... Upon reflection, I suppose I should have thought of that!

WHILST PHONE IS IN NORMAL MODE:

su

busybox df -h

busybox cp -a /data/dalvik-cache /system/sd/

busybox cp -a /data/data system/sd/

exit

exit

REBOOT INTO RECOVERY ROM:

mount data

rm -rf /data/data

ln -s /system/sd/data /data/data

rm -rf /data/dalvik-cache

ln -s /system/sd/dalvik-cache /data/dalvik-cache

reboot

Everything seems to be running OK and I now have 150MB of free internal memory! I'd like to thank the original poster for thier contribution.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] FalkenX:
Pretty wierd, Itje has been in-active for a couple of days (probably due to easter) and all of a sudden everybody is "releasing" roms like its there speciality? :confused:

And when i read these threads and somebody askes a simple thing as "are you putting youtube in it?" i see answers like "it is pretty hard to get youtube up and running, i dont know how to do that"..

Is this something everybody wants to see? Imo cooking/releasing roms should be done only by people who have the knowledge and knowhow off everything.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] shithead:
If they want to try to cook, why not?

It's only a win-win situation ;)

They learn more & have more experiences and maybe they'll even getting better than Itje :p
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] fards:
very very succinctly put..

jerpeleas kitchen is very very simple to use.

and is perfect for creating that "personal rom"

unfortunately, whats happening is what often happens, and is that everyone suddenly decides to throw out that personal rom for public consumption.

now i think its great that people are trying things out, but i do think, ladies and gentlemen that you should keep your experiments a bit more "internal" at least till you understand what you're doing a bit better..

please??
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] jackleung:
Agreed. Glad to see more cooks or more people willing to learn to cook. But sad to see lots of them either unfinished, or not tested fully w/ lots of bugs here and there. And I don't see any unique features/characteristic/fixes among most of them since all are based on the same kitchen without going into details to learn and create.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] FalkenX:
In other words, people, if you wanna try to cook your own roms thats your own choice, but stop the posting on the forums if there arent any new feautures/bug fixes in it.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] knaplullig:
alway nice to see more people cooking.

but like myself i cooked a rom with jerpelea's kitchen.

i twisted and turned allot over and made it to my personal favors.

but i won't release for public just because it is to my own taste and i know that allot of peoplehere have different choises and willings.

it's great that cooking is made easy for everybody but if you don't have the real knowledge like our first timer chefs keep it for yourself and enjoy it as much as you can!

but hey..

that's just me
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] gtrab:
The word is not "cook" kids: it's READ and SEARCH.

Spread the word

I cook

You cook

He cooks

She cooks

We cook

You cook

They cook

But jerpelea is the biggest cooker of them all !!

Been cooking since january over WinMo 6.5, nothing worth sharing yet... until jerpelea uploaded his kitchen and I solved 6 weeks of problems in 6 minutes:

I eagerly read all 49 pages of his suggestions/tips, and included a couple of his packages into my own recipe, now I can fire the oven
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] fards:
yup I've been cooking my own for a while now, but I've never released one.. mostly as I do it to learn more..
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] shadowmike:
ive made 6.5/manila2 roms but havnt uploaded them because of this whole situation.

I do think however its better that ppl make their own roms and learn more about their phones then being a drone to somone else.

Its too bad that some in the past ruined it for some to truelly learn what needs to be changed in some cases. because alot of cooks are protecting their roms. so disecting their rom to see whats really in it is a bit harder then normal.

not speaking down to itje or about him. but if we were able to truely dissasemble his rom we could find out why myfaves doesnt work.

but cooking my own rom i got myfaves working but using jerpelea kitchen i get dumb little bugs
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] jackleung:
That's not what I mean. But I wish new cooks

instead to rush out a buggy rom

(especially for 6.5 which is still beta and still with lots of issues w/ X1), could

spent more time in clean up and bugfix

, then release an tested and quality rom. It just a waste of time of you and your users if your rom is too buggy to be useful. Or released roms w/ features/softwares w/ bugs and issues that you don't have idea how to get them fix.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Bxsteez:
I kinda like to see all the new ROMS out. We went from 1 or 2 to a bunch. Granted there are a lot of buggy ROMS and people should do a lot more searching and more beta testing but being one of the new cooks i can see the reason for trying to release it. Some people use there phones completely differently that you do so i would think that others would find bugs that you don't. I know when i released my lite rom there were issues that i never even thought of trying so i had like 5 versions in like 2 weeks.

Most people don't add new features because a lot of the stuff is hard to come by in my opinion that is. They just release a different take on the programs and features.

I dunno just my take....
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] jackleung:
I am not sure if this is his true intention. But you got to understand this is the side effect that the Bepe's kitchen he use (which is a lot more effieicent and easy to manage, and I start to use it as well since my V3.x series).

In fact, Itje is very generous in sharing what he could share in the Chef sharing thread, or his own threads w/ the helps from Fards, Akp99 (man, how come I don't have such an helpful team???). All you need is search, or ask the right man.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] itje:
I have seen the same thing..

I welcome new chefs..its all good, but as said before, its not the "real" work of chefs, its more a "Ikea" sollution, buy/get the kitchen parts..put it together and use it at home...

And as jack said, please guys keep making roms..its cool..but rather then releasing roms that others has made (Jerpelea) try to make one from scratch...

I must also admit with this new wave of chefs, it also keeps getting very annoying that many of the new rom makers keep sending pm's, e-mails and adds me to msn. It didnt bother me at start, but now Its getting pretty frustrating.

And I am not even allowed to say no, they keep on coming asking for everything I know, everything I got..and if I say no, im a cocky mofo who wants to be the topchef all by himself..etc etc

I have to be rude, and I have to put ppls requests down. If not, I would not have time to do make new roms, because I was personally guiding everyone else.

That IS NOT why im here. I have no interest at all beeing a teacher...I can share stuff, but then I also like to get something back (not talking donations here) and that is a more respectful tone, specialy when I decline helping.

But, I try to point ppl in the right directions..telling them what to look for or where to find a thread with the stuff they need..usually that is not enough...cause they keep coming back asking what to look for....

But then I dont reply, because if you cant find it, then you can find another hobby..and that I dont back up on..

I have been searching this forums, so many times for new stuff, to learn new things, and I STILL DO.

I help if I can, I share when I can..but dont add me to msn to ask for cooking help. Cause you wont get it..sorry.

I know this post can be considered a bit off topic..but then again, its not..cause that is whats happening "behind the scene" of all the new "chefs"

Im sorry if this offends anyone..and im sure there is ppl among the new guys that are gonna get way better then me in this...after all, its just a hobby
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] itje:
I dont like ppl dissambling my roms

I tried for some time to have open roms..damn I even left in the rgus, so ppl could dump the rom and recook for personal use..

But what they didnt know was that I hid some small codes in the base of the rom

So when suddenly new roms started popping up..from ppl claiming it was their own work...can you guys guess what I found in the roms???? nahhhh..guess one more time :p

Then I made some "rules" Do not recook and release my roms, or I will protect them...

To bad..it still happened...

So I locked my roms, and if ppl dont like it...I dont care :D
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] shadowmike:
Oh please don't take what ive said the wrong way. I understand the reasoning behind it.

not to be that guy but i still get the files i need from ur rom. :) like new images for replacement of the old green highlights.

but i also respect your work to not release anything as i understand how time consuming it is.

as i used to skin for psp's and windows mobile 6 and 6.1 standard neo and sliding panel home screens.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] nirave:
I have to say I've been reading this thread with particular interest, as I could be considered one of the "chefs" Itje is talking about as I recently asked him to point me in the direction of how to create ROMs. I personally found in all the custom ROMs that I tried several different little tweaks or something that I didn't use and wouldn't use and all I can say to people is, unless you've created a new TF3D or something HUGE then don't publicise ROMs - Once i eventually learn how to create on, I will simply use it just to create a ROM that is PERFECT for ME - and then I will work on creating something spectacular!

And that's my 15minutes of fame for the day :)

Nirave

P.S. I've just re-read the post and there is no hidden meaning in what I said regarding asking Itje! I know it sounds like there is, but there's not :) :D!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] nirave:
I'll open it out a little more: If anyone can help a long-time reader, small-time poster (ME!) and point me in the direction of how to create a custom ROM I'll be ever grateful :)

thanks

nirave
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] itje:
dont worry, im not aiming at any person...but its a typical thing...its the same over and over again...same way
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] BobAndrews:
I dont see any problems in all these new roms. If there is nothing special, people wont be interested so that the "problem" will be solved by itself.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ianl8888:
Yes, I'm an Ikea cook, as Itje said. I'm only ever after a bare-bones ROM with whatever XIP\SYS improvements updates may provide.

I once published one of my "Ikea assembly" efforts for my earlier Eten X500, acknowledging the base was from PDAVIET, and was inundated with requests, complaints etc etc. So now I just use these Ikea efforts.

Question: does anyone know why official ROM updates seem never to use NETCF3.5 over v2.xx ?

V3.5 has been available for well over 18 months now
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] fards:
Sorry mate, I flash my X1 so often these days testing various stuff that I don't think I'd ever be able to use it for it's intended purpose if I started trying to help with other roms :D

Maybe I'll have to get a HD or something to use in the "real world" so I can use the X1 as a resource device..

anyone know any wealthy benefactors or bored HD owners that have progressed to a diamond2.. LOL
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Jiggarome:
good topic

good thread, i really want to learn how to cook a rom, but i will wait until i finish my exams and have the summer free.

It is slightly confusing seeing all of these roms available claming to be bigger better faster etc.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] FalkenX:
The only reason i created this thread is to try to keep this section of the forum a little bit more "readable" .. Itje's threads (and other well known chefs) allready are hard to keep up with all the new pages full of posts within 1 day, so if the "new chefs" also release there personal roms and we wanna discover some new talent of upcomming "itjes", (LOL) its better imo if people only release new roms when there are new feautures/bug fixes in it.

So nobody has to feel offended by this thread :D
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] tjex:
I see no problems with people releasing their own version of ROM's and I don't see why ppl should put those efforts down.

You have to start somewhere and learn and if they want to share their 'Ikea' version so be it. It's all about supply/demand. Just because they post something it will only become popular if it's a good ROM. Otherwise, the thread will eventually drop off to page two.

I don't recall seeing anything on this site that restricts who can post what! Who are we to judge what ROM's should be shared? :mad:
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] shingers5:
as per everything in life we all have choices and its up to us as individuals to make that choice and flash any rom. people forget that guys like itje and jack etc all started off with that 1st rom which was nowhere near perfect so why not encourage others? i am all for it on both my touch hd and x1. it's my choice just like yours what rom you flash and test. i tend to go with the masses when flashing. the only issue i have with cooks is i dont see the point of releasing a rom if ya dont know how to tweak it or fix bugs. other than that i think that encouragement is what new chefs need and most seem to have help from the master chefs.

this is purely my feeling and opinion. if ya don't agree then thats your opinion! get my drift. i will not be drawn into an argument!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Sera_6969:
I love flashing my X1 with all these beautifully baked (and sometimes half-baked) ROM's but they all lack something or have too much padding for my own personal tastes. Next stop for me is the kitchen to cook up my own recipe but i wouldn't release a ROM here unless i had something significantly different to offer.

It's always good to try but when all you get is variations on the same pie the old taste buds get jaded... I feel it can't be long before there is an exclusive Masterchef section on xda, locked to the junk-food cookers like me :(

...am i over egging the kitchen comparisons, do you think???
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] shingers5:
true i think that there are a lot of variations to same thing or build. loads of people are putting their personal stamp on the master chefs creations. for those who are serious it could help them along the way but doesn't mean they have to release everything they create. also feel that chefs should fully test rom before releasing........... my opinion dread not yours ok!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] sabesh:
Many cooks .. only a few chefs. I'll stick with the Chefs' creations ;)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] shingers5:
in the beginning there were only cooks no chefs. through loads of cooking and testing they have now become chefs and refined their creations. how are the young cooks ever going to get a chance to be chefs if they are not given the opportunity or no ones tries their work? some of them get help from the chefs so their work will have support and that my friend is good enuff