yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Barty_2:
start TF 3D

I have read this post from day zero and been using the app on my Tuch HD, so a big thanks to the developer, I have one question is there a tweak to have the start up page as TF3d instead of the today? also could you let me know how to assign the home soft key to bring the TF3D to the fore instead on MTD as I can easily access the MTD from slide menu.

THANKS
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] c_shekhar:
The second today does not integrate the SPB diary so well with the TF3D. MTP is an excellent way for this in my opinion....;)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] MrAnderson:
MTP seamless integration

Hey, guys, check this out:

I've spent 4 hours to 'dissolve' SpbDiary plugin into Manila page as close as possible.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] hugo_pua:
look great, how you do this? mind to share.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Psyki:
This app is simply amazing, XDA has some serious geniuses :D Does anyone know if it is possible to have multiple installations/tabs of MTP?

Thanks!!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] MrAnderson:
Here is the package with detailed instructions:

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/668704/2009-06-01/MTP_set_Mr.Anderson.rar (700 kb)

I've done it by adding extra space with Spacer plugin and adding customized background with prepared text.

That's because I didn't find any Today plugins which can merely display static text string, with no bells and whistles.

By the way, that can be added as feature request to MTP author - such "text header" or "text divider" can be easily implemented on MTP side.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] hugo_pua:
thank you...

Mr. Anderson

Thank for your files.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] bill340:
Is anyone able to make MTP work with the latest Manila V2.1?

I really miss that app so much on the latest dutty roms!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] v1zca1n0:
I have a problem. I am using a ported version of TF3d from Topaz (in spanish) and, as you know, you can put on/off the programs tab. When I install your program with his own tab, and I want to because is a great program, the Programs Tab of TF3D don´t work. Maybe one and another are in the same .dll or merge each other. Did you know this bug? Any solution?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] rickgillyon:
Has anyone tried this on Manila 2.1 yet?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] drblow:
I have the same issue, and as far as I know there is no fix. Installing mtp also results in the customise tabs option in the settings tab not working, the list of tabs to move is gone. I guess we will have to wait til someone develops this a bit further.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] hugo_pua:
i have a solution.

1) Setup MTPInstall.CAB(ver 0.3.5) to Main memory

2) Go to programs menu, run MTP Configurator.

3) Choose page to host plug-ins,

choose plug-ins you want to enable. Uncheck "TouchFLO 3D".

4) Click apply button. Close configurator.

5) Go Settings-> Today Disable TouchFlo3D. Click OK. Enable TouchFlo3D. Click OK.

6) go to customise tabs option in the settings tab (manila3d).

7) move the MTP tab for the position you want. and click ok.

8) open resco registry editor, and goto HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\Configuration & change the configuration to temp name(something like configuration1)

9) remove the mtp program.

10) setup MTPinstall.CAB(ver 0.3.6) to Main memory again.

11) open resco registry editor, and goto HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\ & and delete configuration & change back the configuration1 to configuration.

12) goto step 2 to 4

13) Go Settings-> Today Disable TouchFlo3D. Click OK. Enable TouchFlo3D. Click OK.

14) Run MTPLoader

15) Selected plug-ins should appear on selected tab.

Finally you solve the missing customise tabs option in the settings tab problem. Done! email me if you don't know. hugo_pua@hotmail.com

i'm using HTC touch HD & stock rom. this step solve my problem.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] v1zca1n0:
:):D ¡¡¡¡YES I DO IT FANTASTIC... You are great!!!!!!! A BEER..:p..for you
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] hugo_pua:
thank, guy... you're welcome...

but i don't understand why the latest version missing the configuration registry. maybe the author know the answer.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] joaquingu:
MTP in Home TAB

I've tried to put the tab in the Home tab of my TouchFLO 3D 2.0.37889.1 and I can only see the today screen for a while.

Has anyone the same problem?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] garyjmobey:
just been playing around

you can use mtp and second today on the same machine

just need some decent plugins
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] garyjmobey:
there are some posts earlier

but on mine it basically stoped manila 2.1 from working

Now using a diferent rom with 2.0 and all is well with mtp
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] rickgillyon:
Thanks for that. Means I'll be sticking with Manila 2.0 roms, MTP is too useful to lose...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Barty_2:
THASNK’s

I am not to clever with this customizing stuff, but I follow instructions well , so a big :) THANK's to Hugo_pau for the post solved a problem i has for a while.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ja-marcin:
hi

blazealex this app looks great, but it looses a lot of funcionality without posibilty of scrolling horizontal casue on diamonds liitle screen is not much space for plugins...

for example in second today it`s solved very nice

also it would be great if it could support plugins like calndar and tasks (but if i understand correctly for now it`s impossilble, right?)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] LondonTownGuy:
I thought this was the case but on my diamond with spb calendar installed if you slide just above the bottom tabs it works.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Zänker:
Great app. Using it for a decent calender in tf3d.

One minor quibble though. I tried to make a shortcut from the home tab of tf3d to MTP using this method: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=416688. The shortcut does direct me to the today tab, but then the tab is empty.

If I go to the today tab the normal way, the tab is not empty and works correct.

Any way to fix this?

Thanks for the great app.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] darfri:
Finished?

The thread is quite long to find if this question has been answered, but..

Will there be any updates for this app?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] chuguan777:
Thank you for your hard work, great job !!

I very much like this, but have a small request, and now the work of the landscape display is not perfect, can not be allowed to landscape display manila state perfect? Thank you, forgive me for not good English ...:)good luck!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] jodeltje:
if I may ask, which calendar are you using?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Zänker:
This one:

http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/diary/screenshots.html

I like it very much. It's highly customizable
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] s2007:
does it work with Wm6.5+Manila on Diamond?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Riceburner:
I tried this program (MTP v3.6.0) on my Blackstone this morning (Stock Orange Rom, TFlo v1.3.353....).

Not only did the new "Today Tab" come up blank (I set it to view PocketBreeze and Homescreen Plus Plus, both working fine in SecondToday), but I have now lost the "stocks" tab in Touchflo Settings tab.

I went through the instructions as best I could, but nothing helped. Now have uninstalled it and still don't have the stocks tab (I initially targeted the stocks tab in the MTP configuration screen - obviously the wrong thing to do!)

In the initail post it states you're not supporting older versions of Manila than 1.37, I know, but I thought I'd try it anyway. Is this still the state of play?

Would have very much appreciated this program to work for me.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] amitkapoor:
Riceburner - it shoudl have worked fine. I hope you are sleceting Today's tab to install it. Also, try installing it on device once.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] redflag:
Thanks

Thanks to your great work I can now integrate RL today into TF3D, 16 Tabs working seamlessly, keep it up.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Riceburner:
Tried again, after restoring the registry (luckily I had a backup!!), and it still didn't work correctly.

Firstly I turned off touchflo completely BEFORE starting the install and configuration to prevent any confusions.

After MTP was loaded I restarted TFlo:

The "internet" tab had been replaced by the "stock" tab (although in the settings list it was still referred to as the internet tab)

The Today tab worked, and showed PocketBreeze. :)

BUT after another restart of Touchflo (after moving Today tab up to position2), the Today tab was empty again.

So firstly, it corrupted the internet/stock tabs, and secondly, it didn't reliably display the plugins. :(

Someone else has had success by using a "15 tabs" cab - I might try that if I can find one, but the last one I tried (MaxTTD's) didn't work very well.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] libor.pavlik:
Problem with 3.6.0 installation

Hello,

I have Rhodium, english version. I had a problem and I solved it myself.

This post is here to help anyone to debug it or use the solution.

When I installed last version of MTP, all my original tabs in TF3D configuration lost. There were only 2 tabs - one unnamed blank tab and 'Today screen' tab.

If I tried to save and opened settings again, it was the same, but twice (2 blank, 2 Today screen), after every next save more and more.

My TF wasn't able to load (trying to load again), MTP install or uninstall didn't help.

I made HR and then started from clean phone.

After install of MTP cab file, I watched registry and found that in

\HKLM\Software\HTC\Manilla\Configuration is only one subdir named '11' with Title 'Today Screen'.

I didn't feel it is right, so I renamed the 'Configuration' dir and continued.

After finish of all installation steps, 'Configuration' dir was created again with all tabs and everything is OK.

Hope this will help to anyone.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Spauldio:
I'm loving this program. BelzAlex, is there any way I can contribute to keep your creative juices flowing?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Frank_B:
homebutton

after installing my homebutton doesen´t go any more.

I was searching but diden´t found any solutions.

Can anybody help???
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] doktor_ppc:
I have Rhodium, german version. I installed MTP and I want to modify my today screen. But now, I have still die TF3D today screen but one additional menu with the windows flag, where my today plugin is shown. Is that a bug or a feature :p

Is it possible to switch the plugin to the home screen?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] guitardood:
Problem w/HTC Rhodium Manila AutoStart and clock fix.cab

Hello,

First let me say.....GREAT PROGRAM!!

It was working wonderful on my touch pro with stock rom and Rhodium Beta V1D. I just updated the phone with the above mentioned CAB file to fix the World Clock/Timezone issue, which replaced the manila.exe file with an updated version. Now MTP complains that it is 'unable to apply calculated patch'. Could you kindly take a look, at your convenience, at the attached manila.exe and update MTP to support it.

Best,

Guitardood

EDIT: The TODAY page stays blank. Loader gives the messages 'Load Complete' and then 'Unable to apply calculated patch'. The plugin worked great prior to upgrading the manila.exe(from Rhodium V1D) with the one attached. Tried to upgrade to 0.3.6.2 and received the same results.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] lover:
@blezalex this program really rocks,

is it possible to include Task Bar in MTP?

application like Magical, rk-LocationSwitch and ... are minimized to TaskBar and Manila doesnt let to launch it
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] anubis.genix:
is the development on hold?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Asphyx:
Well whats left to do? This program works great! Does everything you would want it to do...

The today plugs it does not support I believe is due to Manila not this program itself.

I believe the corrupted tabs is also manila related...And yes the registry is where it gets screwed up. I lost my settings tab in this case so it seems to be random tabs that get screwed up.

If anyone can post the reg settings (complete folder) for their settings tab I think I can get it back.

Renaming the today plug page seems to solve some of the issues using the tab customizer.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] bill340:
Manila V2.1, like it is used in the latest Dutty Touch HD roms is not yet supported...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] n2rjt:
In the ROM I am using, the class name is "Manila2D"
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Asphyx:
Is it just a screen size issue or does it not function at all?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] garyjmobey:
On mine (when on m2.1) Manila itself wouldn't load after installing MTP

same rom family with m2.0 was fine
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] bill340:
It does not work at all with Manila V2.1

It says, that the manila version is not supported.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] LinoX:
I have v 2.1.38158.2 (on my rhodium)

Everything installs as it should..

configured ok..run the loader...

no effect at all.

Tabs don't change, no today appears.

Everything works as before.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] scottspa74:
Iapologize for this being SLIGHTLY off topic, but that dotFred task manager looks AMAZING! Anyone know if installing it while I already have PHM Reged installed will 'confuse' my phone? Would I have to make edits on both editors, or just not use one of the 2 for registry edits...? I'd love to have dotFreds, any info would be super appreciated. Much thanks.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Franceschiello:
I try to set the page on "home" but my today page appear and then come back to standard home.

If I set on, for example, on internet page, then work perfectly, but I'm not able to rename and remap softkey.

thx
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Barty_2:
request

HI, can someone walk me through how to change the HOME softkey on the MTP tab?

thanks
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] dennisddd:
Some errors concerning Diamond2

Hello,

this application is really a great idea because the TF3D is almost worthless without beeing able to use additional apps and icons.

My main concern is to be able to use TodayAgenda to display Birthdays and Todos on the Home tab. Like this:

My System:

HTC Touch Diamond2 T5353

WM 6.1 Professional

CE OS 5.2.21041 (Build 21042.1.6.1)

Rom-Version: 1.39.407.1 (47382) GER

Language: German

Name of "Program Files" folder: Programme

What I did:

Installed .net and also the newest version of MTP.

What's happening:

Every time I hit apply I get an error message from windows which it wants to send to MS:

"There was a problem with manila.exe. Please send this problem to MS..."

I attach a screenshot of the things it says when I click on technical error details. I also attach the Manila-log and the Manila.exe

Still kind of working:

It does show the window flagged new tab and also shows the items I select, if I choose any other tab then Home. On Home just nothing happens, but thats exactly the tab I wanted to change :-(

What do items look like:

I'm not sure, if it really works the way it should. What it does is it puts the selected items right on top of the tab, hiding the things that are actually on the page. Now I have forced it to be a little smaller, but that doesn't really help. That's what it looks like:

My questions:

Most importantly: Is it at all possible to use MTP for the HOME tab?

Is there a possibility of showing the MTP-Items underneath the regular tab stuff?

If 2. not possible/additionally to 2., is there a possibility of controlling the y/height starting point of the MTP-Items, so one could adjust it to start in the y-place wanted

Is there a possibility of using no background and making it transparent, so the regular tab stuff shines through?

If none of those points above work, is there a possibility of setting a different tab to be the standard home tab, so the one using MTP comes up instead of home and home just becomes a regular tab further down in hierarchy?

Thank you for the support,

Dennis
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] eXman:
Nice work! THX! :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] dennisddd:
Could you give us a tutorial on how you did that?

That's exactly what I'm looking for!

Thanks,

Dennis
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Asphyx:
From what I can tell...MTP doesn't really insert today plugs into TF3D...

What it does is simply make a blank page with softkey definitions in Manila that the loader overlays the today plugs onto.

I do not think you could position where the today plugs will actually show up inside of a manila page...just over the page itself.

At least in it's current incarnation.

this is why swiping on the MTP page does not always slide to the next manila page...I don't think it is actually part of the manila the way it is done just triggered to load and overlay by the manila page you set it to show on.

It would seem that HTC is still trying to improve TF3D for future devices...

Lets hope they listen to their loyal user (yeah I know why start now!) and enable us to use today plugs inside Manila...

I don't need very many today plugs since Manila gives me most of what I need displayed on a quick reference basis...

This program will hold me until they do! Works great (even on TF3D2)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] dennisddd:
@Asphyx: Thanks for the clarification. Do you know if there's a possibility of making a different Manila tab the Home tab, so it is the starting point instead of the default?

Sad thing we don't have insight (not that I know of) into the source of MTP, otherwise we might be able to configure some stuff like the Y-position.

Thanks,

Dennis

PLEASE SIGN PETITION TO HTC: Please give us Today Plugins back
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Asphyx:
If I had to guess I would say the code to set Y would be in the loader.

You could try PMing the author and see if he won't release the source...HE used .netcf to make it.

As for begging HTC...Hell we can't even get them to enable hardware they already have in their devices...LOL
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] dennisddd:
Asphyx,

thanks for the hints. I'll PM him and let you guys know. I've read he's been pretty busy lately.

About the petition for HTC: I'm aiming to get a 1000 signees and we'll find out, if that doesn't help to get HTC moving. If it doesn't - I know some people at some very interesting news mags ;-)

I mean, what's the deal with this. The older HTC devices allowed plugins and now with the new ones it gets worse?

Take care,

Dennis
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] garyjmobey:
Manila Today Page (MTP) v0.3.6.2 (Updated 22 June 2009)

works with dutty 3.7 rom with tf3d 2.1 Yay !!!!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] mlk:
Think something isnt working properly:

1. Downloaded the 3.2 cab

2. Run the CAB on HTC Touch Pro using stock ROM

3. PPC soft resets itself as installing (no interaction from me, this happens automatically tried it twice to confirm)

4. Run installation instructions as per Page 1 (running configrator, loader, etc)

5. Noticed that configurator still shows 3.0 version

6. After running loader, left & right buttons move 2 tabs, so cant see any difference.

Any ideas?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] snufkin:
I did the followings to have MTP as the home tab:

1/ making a full backup :p

2/ removing the home tab using Advanced Config

3/ Installing MTP as a new tab

4/ Manually modifying the file \Windows\26948339_manila (make a copy first) to change the Page Order of MTP to 1 and moving the page order of other tab correspondingly

5/ Voila!! You can get the MTP as home!!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] dennisddd:
Good morning,

Snufkin, this sounds great, but on my TF3D V2 (Diamond2) the Advanced Config is not working for the tabs, TF3D Config also not working and the Reg Key for the tabs (HKLM/Software/HTC/Manila/Configuration) mentioned somewhere is just not there in V2. Any ideas for TF3D V2?

Thanks,

Dennis
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Ameet:
Here's the Manila.exe that I use on my ROM. Can you do something to it to use your amazing software? :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] blezalex:
Error message?

What is happening?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] jolas:
Blezalex,

Thanks it is working now!

Just a few thinks to correct, if it is possible.

1.Due to the fact that I have Touch HD, the screen is not fully covered.

2.Either I select in the configurator to have the same background as main page, or not, the background is always black.

3.Some plugins have white background, like 'Messaging' and 'RSS Hub'.

Thank you very much for your effords!:)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] blezalex:
Sorry, but it looks like this version would be not easy to support. It is very different from all the others I have. Is it from Diamond?

It looks like it would be easier for you to update, than add support for this version.. Maybe I'll analyse this version deeper later, but now I have to much other tasks to do..
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] bbonzz:
Here's Manila from my rom (Blackstone EVO II): mind adding this one as well?

As now the app says it's loaded, manila works as usual but i have no today

screen in selected tab

Also, is it possible to support other tabs as well (reading actual tabs from manila itself, maybe): i have an extra "calls registry" tab i don't use, but cannot link this one to MTP

thanks
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] demonizator:
Thank you so very much for adding the stock page!

It seems that white background issue is not that random - it apperas only on messages, rss feeds and lock plugins.

Still can't get the spb finance plugin to work.

:(
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] blezalex:
As I see all these plugins are created by Microsoft. It looks like microsoft ignores its own specifications :)

What version of SPB finane do you use? I verified on latest 2.8.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] demonizator:
The same..!

:confused:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] blezalex:
Does plugin configuration appear when you call it from MTPConfigurator?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] djkasmic:
are the today-plugins on mtp working like normal today-plugins on standard today-screen??

with some othe today-screen replacements like second today not all today-plugins are working, because they were running in background!!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] mkucuksari:
Thanks for the info. It is from diamond :) but I think very early version. I will try to update it. Many thanks :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] energyx:
I was reading this post and it says no - doesn't work. And i think none of the "clone today screens" is able to run all standard today "Applets".

But normally, or in the most cases, you will find a very good alternative to the one you want to start.

And returning to the Topic...nice idea! I will try it later on my Diamond and HD.