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[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] humayunl:
I have another observation with respect to battery life that may be helpful to this overall discussion. i'm on the latest ROM which is i believe 41609

I have noticed that the battery did not drain much AT ALL (from 99% to 94%) during the entire night from Midnight to 8:00am - but AS LONG AS I WAS NOT USING the phone at all.

No external apps installed/loaded

No GPS, 3G was off.

Push email was ON and set to "as items arrive" 24 hours a day and I get lotsa mails at night.

Even then, the drain as long as I was not actively using the phone was minimal. However, just being on the phone for about 2025 minutes quickly brought it to 64% from the 94% that I started with.

So it does drain quickly for me, but only when actively on use i.e. screen on, and me talking or doing something else (typing notes, talking etc.)

So its just hungry when its up, and not when it is sleeping (at least in my case)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] humayunl:
Connection Setup Wizard bug

I have started noticing this from the last 2 ROMs (currently on 41609). Everytime I reset the phone, the connection setup wizard launches and on the top it says (SIM CARD CHANGED).

My connection is already setup and I uncheck the "ask everyone" checkbox and then Cancel the wizard (thats the only option available when you un-check) but still it comes up every single time I reset.. sometimes even if I don't reset the phone. I ahven't established/noticed a pattern about when or why.

But its very annoying. Anyone else having this issue with 41609?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] amnya:
First of all, thank you for taking the time in writing that post. Nothing new to me, except the above. You can call me a noob in winMo, raphael is my 1st winMo phone, and am loving it.

Anyways, what exactly is "rilphone" (Answer is here) and how can i know if i have the correct one? ( Waiting for the answer )

Damn winMo is an ocean, and am loving it :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] nakano.black:
That to modify the registers doesn't resolve completely the problem because in mine "HTC Pro" a lot of times the key "FN" it goes to conflict (straight it turns on me the led of the key "MAIUSC") and it doesn't work well. to her all correctly works??
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] nakano.black:
I everything wanted to thank to give me for you listening. I believe that I would not be so much of I help considering that there are 2 enormous problems leading! The first one is that I am not so smart to be been to the height to make a will the ROM, according to my English ago indeed disgust (in fact I use Lec Power)! cmq from how much I have understood there is already working and if you tell me that only matter to wait for few weeks I will be patient. thanks still!:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] loopsider:
Like your enthusiasm! I love Windows Mobile for the tweak factor.

For explanation:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3354857&postcount=13

Look for the right one here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=494632

I haven't done it myself, and I would rather someone else who's done it answer it, but I believe it involves placing the .dll file into your phone thats appropriate for your radio.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] paradoxni:
No extra processes running , as stated in my previous posts after I HR i only add some contacts NOTHING is added, setup or turned on.

3G is permantently OFF for me & Im not going near the internet on my phone. for the time being I dont use anything cuz the battery is so bad.

No email setup at all.

I have tried with 3 different radios, each with and without associated rilphones...as with you I have prefered the hard method rather than the CAB method.

I have tried this battery cycling many times to no effect.

As stated before after flashing and doing a hard reset all I do is add contacts. nothing installed, nothing setup and nothing extra turned on, infact I turn 3G OFF aswell.

I also went back to 1.0 series of EnergyROM and my battery is perfect, it does not drain at all in standby..e.g. when I wake in the morning the battery level is more or less the same as when I went to bed, unlikes with the current 2.0 builds were I lose 80%+ battery overnight in standby (with the above configuration).

I fully appreciate your post for trying various methods of findin the cause, but I and a few others have posted many times that we have tried all of this and its not a "normal" battery issue. I also appreciate that most of the people here do not have this issue, but I do have it and I have tried everything under the sun to find a cause that is not the ROM (including a different battery from another touch pro)

I COULD always just stick with 1.0 or leave my phone on charge 90% of the day, but the latter is impractical and I much prefer the excellent 2.0 series it realy is amazing and I would love to have this issue sorted out. Also I need to get my moneys worth after sendin NRG dollars for a load of beer :P :P
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] alanplum:
Further to my battery issues, I took off the back cover and noticed that the battery has got so hot it's actually started to *melt* a little.

Check your device and see if you have the same.

I've jumped to ROMeOS WM6.5 build for just now and my battery now lasts ages. Looking forward to EnergyROM 3.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] amnya:
hehe, me too, love it for that specific aspect.

Anyhow, the 1st link u provided was already covered ;) check the quote you did :) As for second link, it says WHERE to find those files, which also is not hard to find since its a sticky ;)

So, that gets me back to point 0. How can i know if i already have the right one?

I had stock rom, did hardSPL and EnergyROM, and thats ALL I DID. So far, am happy, battery is even BETTER than before btw, and no lags in GPS and all is good.

Sooo, again, do i have the right Rilphone?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Rickinfl:
Strange

First off Awesome ROM!!!

As for issues really nothing bad everything I need to work... works fine.

I've been reading on the Battery issues everyone has had. I've not had any problems with battery drain. 3G turned on, connected 24/7 to exchange server, Phone calls all during the day and 30 to 40 text messages a day, bluetooth full time.

No extra's added except for the icons and changing green to blue. No extra software installed except for Pocket Controller Pro. I use remote desktop a lot to access the servers and my phone last all Day!

I've been in IT for years and rebuilt 1,000's of computers and servers. I use to service Personal computers I had to stop because of issues... I would rebuild the computer and it would run 100% and the customer would be Happy! after I leave I'd start getting phone calls about how I didn't know what I was doing and they would get nasty with me even after I sat there after the rebuild and they where happy with it.. even offered me drinks and food! Come to find out they installed their software after I left... and all hell would break loose mostly AOHELL software, but others too. So I quit doing personal PC's and only do Corporate now because they can't install their BS software.

My point is the ROM runs perfect and does everything I want it to do and more, BUT I've not loaded it down with a bunch of software that could cause conflict problems. Yes there may be some bugs, but I can live with that because I didn't cause it he's working on the problems and I can wait.

When you post something that you're having problems you may want to list all the software you installed AFTER you flashed the ROM. It's NOT NRG's problem if you installed something afterwards.

My advice is Flash the ROM run it for a week or so before installing anything that way you can find out the bugs if there is any. After you install your software and you have problems don't run back here and post you got issues AFTER you installed your software OR did tweaks.

Trouble shoot it yourself... it's simple! "IT ran fine before.... Now it doesn't" So what changed from it running fine until now? What did I do? change a setting? installed something? Back track yourself until you figure out what changed.

And if you do post a problem here... I'd make sure you include everything you installed on top of the ROM and any Tweaks you did. That way NRG doesn't pull his hair out thinking it was something HE did, Because if you did something it's not his Fault!

Keep up the Great work NRG! Thanks :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] abledanger:
Hey Amnya,

If you want to be 100% certain you have the right one, just go into the Radio Rilphone thread (sticky on the first page, here's a link). From your sig, you have the stock radio, so just download the matching rilphone zip in the first post. Then do the following:

Rename the file to rilphone2.dll

Copy the file to your /Windows directory

Use your reg editor of choice to edit the following registry key: HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL

In that reg key, find Dll and edit it. Change the value to rilphone2.dll

Soft reset and you now have a matching ril and radio.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] amnya:
Double that, i wrote about this some time ago, for me, found this ROM draining actually less energy. More memory but somehow less battery hungry, i use the phone on wifi, 3g, phone calls for hours, play around with the phone here and there and even use GPS. Battery hangs in there for a whole day as well.

Hell yeah, i got lucky, choose NRG's ROM as my 1st Cooked ROM and i love it, hope i wont ever need to use any other. Thank you NRG, one day, i will learn cooking and steal all those lovely fans of yours :P

Kidding mate, will try learning to cook, but wont ever steal any boday, wont be able to, we're all loyal here, thanks for your hard work, we're always looking for new updates :)

PS: i bug i found on your ROMs, the EnergyROM link you link to in the internet tab, its out dates, links to an old ROM ;)

Cheers
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] amnya:
Thank you for your nice reply your step by step above will sure help me and a lot more. But you and lots others say "Download the matching rilphone" which 1 would that be, how do i say this is the 1 need? My sig below is correct, so if anyone here can help me out, thank you very much. (or shall i simply download the one that has written next to it the same radio version as mine?)

I did read that some functions might not work if i have the wrong dll but from what i see, my phone is stable, no gps lags, and i don't know what would i gain for doing the dll replacement thingie.

PS: would i need to do this regedit each time i hard reset?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mvp2020:
Just installed this rom on Sunday gotta say this is awesome (gr8 job NRGZ28), did end up waking up on monday thinking I had one hour before my exam to spare due to -1 hour bug, got their on time lucky.

By any chance is there a fix as I have tried searching through the thread?

Going to test out my gps now, thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] osrix:
:eek: Dude that doesn't sound good at all..Anyone shoot me down if i'm wrong but this sounds like a massive radio problem! i dont think a Rom would Cause it?

i'm on voda uk and ive used energy roms as well as alot of others RRe right now but the only time my battery got hot was with my kaiser and a radio mismatch,

What are you using? I'm using 1.12.25.19 with maching ril but i was using the origional stock radio 1.11## with no probs either.

Ps lovin the west..Glos rules Tho :p
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] FiyaFleye:
You could easily just use the cab for the rilphone. There is a sticky in this forum with the proper cabs, and then it'll be simpler for you to use, also, it can be uninstalled.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] abledanger:
Yes, the matching rilphone.dll has the same radio version, and you would need to do this with each hard reset. So you want this one.

If you notice any problems after making the change, you can always just point the reg key back to "rilphone.dll", but I've flashed a few radios and have yet to come across any issues ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] amin_86:
i cannot express how awesome this ROM is.... thanks for this
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] jumperfreak:
First of all I want to tell you that your rom is really awesome!

I like it a lot!

I was surfing today while I was bored at work and I found this:

http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueDynamicClock.aspx

and

http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueClockControl.aspx

The first link slows down the raphael when it's in standby for a long time and speeds it up again when you turn on the screen. So it should not slow down the phone, but ofc saves u a lot of battery uptime.

The second link is maybe less intresting as it slows down the phonespeed at all times.

Maybe you can give it a try :)

Greetings!

edit: here you can find the cab file for the dynamic version:

http://www.nuerom.com/nueDownload/download.aspx?id=112
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] amnya:
Thank you very much for the clarification, will do the change manually, don't like cabs doing the job for me :) its fun doing it manually :D

Cheers and thank you for all your clarifications community members, you all make this site a damn obsession!

when ppl post a question and KNOW in the back of their head that a reply will popup sometime VERY soon, ends you up checking the site more regular, until finally u become an addict, like me :D

Cheers all, damn i miss alcohol! :)

PS: am in a business trip to a country where alcohol is forbidden! Am craving for cold beeeeeeer.

Cheers :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] alex_time:
You can be right or maybe wrong, but it is strange that after almost a week nobody know why for some of us TP drain the battery in 4/5 hours even when it is switched off and someone can use it for days with BT 3G Push etc...if you really think is a radio matter, we should write down our radio version and if we have or not the problem...anyway I think it is obvious this problem is related to the the lastes version of this wonderful Rom...because with previous version this did not happen...isn't it?!

Anyway, I have the 1.11.25.01 radio version and I have the battery problem, what about you?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] brycestejskal:
manilla start menu

So I have searched quite a bit but as you can imagine the Words " Manilla", "start", and "menu" pull up a lot of results. The problem is that with NRG's rom with manilla included, i get the finger friendly original start menu not the manilla applications tab.

Now my question is, How can i get the Manilla start menu to work? I have tried the various add-on cabs that come in the whole manilla2 package and the start menu fix cab, all with no success. However, when using the start menu fix cab, i got the issue where it replaces it with the new menu, but there are no icons, just a blank black screen.

Would installing NRG's Rom with no manilla, then installing the manilla2 package from xboxmod fix this? Or is there some setting to keep the new manilla from working altogether in NRG's Roms?

Thanks for your time guys, and awesome rom NRG!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] FiyaFleye:
NRG stated that he changed the drivers a couple of builds ago, but I'm not sure if he ever reverted back, we'd need him to chime in and provide this information. I doubt this is a radio issue, to be honest. Had it been a radio/rilphone issue, I would have been able to reproduce this on older builds. When I was doing my testing (don't remember the exact build) there was a significant battery drain issue between two consecutive builds. As I've stated, I've been unable to test this new build, but as it seems to appear, the problem may still exist. Those of you having this issue to an extreme...check a few posts back, there was a clock adjuster posted which will slow down your processor, and it'll help you with battery life for now. The program seems great because it only slows down the processor while the phone is idle, and kicks it back up when it wakes up again.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] osrix:
I totally agree with you and i understand there is a battery issue connected with this rom, but it was specifically the Melting Battery issue i was refering to!! :confused:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Gundem:
Battery lasts around 10-12 hours and that with GPS usage, Lots of texting, some phone calls, some camera usuage and some teeter.

My problem however is the fact that threaded text messages go from bottom to top meaning the last message shows on top instead of regular IM style bottom. is there a way to change this?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NRGZ28:
I designed the ROM not to be compatible with the new start menu. It needs different "htcstartmenu" dlls in order to be compatible and I didnt cook the new ones in, since I like the old start menu. Unfortunately it's staying that way.. unless u find one yourself and drop it in :)

I'm using the latest 5.08 drivers in 41609 :)

Dude... software cant POSSIBLY melt your battery. You've got bigger issues than the wrong ROM, if your battery gets THAT hot. Seriously :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] brycestejskal:
hmm

If you are reffering to the new Manilla2 threaded messaging UI then don't expect a fix untill Xbox finishes the newest manilla port, aside from that, you might notice that it truncates long text messages and in landscape the words run off the side of the screen. The only timing issues in texts i have noticed however, is if the world clock gets set back an hour and you recieve a text during that time, the text shows up under the time the clock says it was recieved at. Not a big deal for me... Besides these are all Manilla issues, not an issue with the rom. That start menu thing........*Cough* *few posts up* *cough* seems to be related to this rom in particular, feel free to slap me around if you were not referring to the new manilla threaded text UI

EDIT: Thanks for clearing that up NRG, answered my questions while I was posting lol.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] pioneerz:
Some feedback and Bluetooth Problem..

Hello Guys,

Flashed Energy ROM 2.0, it is a gr8 ROM. I have found everything I need in this ROM. I would like to give a little bit feedback about the ROM.

There are some unstabilities with the ROM I have encountered:

- Couple of time phone OS crashed (rebooted from the start) while I was using Opera on WIFI browsing internet. I found Opera is little bit unstable..

- Couple of minor aesthetic correction is needed (Stock section in landscape mode overflow, In phone settings when you switch from Auto to US freq, all UI is getting messed up..

- Bluetooth connection driver problem: let me explain what the problem is. I have external bluetooth GPS, when I connect through WM bluetooth driver, it sees the GPS device and it claims it connected, but when I setup serial COM0 as outgoing port with the device TomTom Navigator does not connect COM0 as external bluetooth GPS device, when I check from WM bluetooth window it shows device as disconnected section but supposed to be in connected section, when I test the same GPS device with GARMIN on the same phone, it connects and show GPSs information without any single problem, but GARMIN bypasses WM driver and connect by itself. In this case, RADIO is fine (Radio Ver 1.12.25.19), it does not loose the bluetooth connection. In this case, my conclusion is it got to be with WM bluetooth driver which TOMTOM would like to use..

I dont know the bluetooth problem is ROM related or WM6.1 driver related.. To check that, I need to reflash my phone to ATT stock ROM and test it, which I am not inclined to do..I want to stay with this ROM..

take care.

btw I am on fuze..
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] 7boo:
Aw man i flashed to the new rom today and the SMS unread bug is still there =*( i would really like to use this rom but have to have this fix and it would be perfect!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Gundem:
I'm tlking about the actual WM messaging no the manilla.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Gundem:
what exactly is the problem? is it the old "new text message" issue where you have tap on the message so that the phone could recognize it as read?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] brnail:
Is this a Manilla bug or not?

Sorry in advance about the fact that this post will be utterly worthless for the majority of you BUT, for those that can't quite get their hands around the whole Manilla vs. ROM issue, I will offer this up.

Try loading this ROM without Manilla and then install the trial version of Spb that NRG gratiously posted several days ago. You will find that the vast majority if not all of the issues I keep reading about here will vanish. Not to be critical of the Manilla port. It is a work is process and a very good one at that, but it is not yet completely finished. If you want to use this ROM, without most of the issues I read about, install Spb. I personally like it, but perhaps not as much as Manilla. I will see, but in using it, I was able to see how well this ROM functions. Frankly, all I can say is I wish this or that worked differently (talking about the Sbf interface). What I can't honestly say is that I have found anything that didn't work.

On the battery issue, I have none, really, other than what I would expect from the FUZE. I think drunkbastard said it all.

Give it a try...... If you decide you like Manilla in it's present state better, so be it. But at least, at that point, you will understand the issues better.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ashneyder:
Anybody knows how to reenable youtube uploads in the new album version?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] jncokilla:
I was wondering is there any ETA on V3
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NRGZ28:
Kinda sorta... this week for sure :) Working on it as we speak... Still deciding the look I wanna give it and whether base in on titanium or tf3d.

Can we have a vote ? My vote is for it to be rhodium Manila based (with both included so you can switch).

Should I make two versions... one with the rhodium manila and with titanium.. or three versions.., one with the old manila..one with the new manila and one with titanium ? Vote vote vote!! :P
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bapski:
more choices the better! by golly you're making my thought of getting another FUZE to test new release ROMS A MUST!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] :
I loaded and played with Sheps 6.5, I'm just not that crazy about titanium. Rhodium vote here.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] SHSnare08:
If you're going to include both Manila and Titanium, what's the functional difference between "Manila based" and "Titanium based"?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] nyok80:
Rhodium Manila

Well I vote for rhodium manila. I've tried a few WM 6.5 cooked rom but still cannot get used to it. Every time i flashed to a WM 6.5 i would return back to your good EnergyROM series 2.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] AddisG:
rhodium manila

Voting for rhodium manila. :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] uglynip1980:
simple answer from me...rhodium..
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] michelkenny:
The big R for me... Rhodium! I tried a few WM 6.5 roms and after using Titanium for a few minutes I always switch back to EnergyROM 2.0...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rickncst:
rhodium

rhodium here as well, im not too impressed by 6.5 or titanium.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] OlSarge:
My vote, is Rhodium Manila based (with both included so you can switch) too. Yours is a super idea, and flexible so users can have what they want without you having to make 3 more versions.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] alex.krebiehl:
Never tried the titanium but it looks nice though I love Rhodium. Both would be my vote, with Rhodium being the default but being able to fall back to titanium if desired
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] cobraz2:
Three versions - I would be grateful to see the "old" Raphael manila too (Essentially Series 1.0 version I assume running WM6.5). Rhodium manila still doesn't "look" fully adapted to me due to the resizing issues, I love series 1.0.

Or course I flash and try all three, I'm always looking to change my mind.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] advanceweld:
My vote is for new manila and Titanium to switch