yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G1 Android Development] borodin1:
Update to .97 and it should work. .96 did not work after the update.
[G1 Android Development] bigballa:
edit double post

its amazing how slow these servers are getting

must donate :D
[G1 Android Development] bigballa:
i dont understand what i need to do to makes the apps to sd work

do i just do the mkdir commands from dude's first post? and thats it

just create that app and app-private folder?

im totally lost

what if i wanna move app-private, app , and dalvik-cache to my sd???

thanks for the advice

oh and by the way

i came from hays build

but i formatted my sd card and did a wipe

so im starting fresh
[G1 Android Development] MarcusMaximus04@gmail.com:
The easiest way is to use my appstosd2 app. It will partition your card for you if you haven't done that already, then(after a reboot) will give you options to move apps and/or dalvik-cache to the sd card. Pressing to move apps will reboot as well, but it should come up fine with all your apps on the sd card.

If you want to do it manually, just do:

su
mkdir /system/sd/app
mkdir /system/sd/app-private
mkdir /system/sd/dalvik-cache

in the terminal emulator an reboot and all future apps will install to the sd card.
[G1 Android Development] johnp888:
web browsing speeds

Is it me or is the data connection slower on cupcake with the newest radio? i feel like browsing is slower and downloading is kind of flakey. tried speedtest at dslreports and i get around 400kbps when i used to get 600kbps or more. hopefully things will get resolved soon.

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[G1 Android Development] johnp888:
web browsing speeds

Is it me or is the data connection slower on cupcake with the newest radio? i feel like browsing is slower and downloading is kind of flakey. tried speedtest at dslreports and i get around 400kbps when i used to get 600kbps or more. hopefully things will get resolved soon. oh i'm on thedude's 1.1.
[G1 Android Development] sandshrimp:
I have done this for app and app-private but no protected apps will install. I even updated to Marcus's updated scripts from yesterday using the below but app-private is not working.

su

mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system

cp /sdcard/init.rc /data/

cp /sdcard/a2sd.sh /data/

I also used the appstosd2 and nada.

I think the old method was better. I am now thinking of moving to haykuro. Can anyone tell me how the stability and quickness is on haykuro's builds compared to Dude's 1.0?
[G1 Android Development] MarcusMaximus04@gmail.com:
I posted a reply in the other thread to this effect as well:

The Dude's ROM uses a2sd.sh from /system/bin/, not from /data/(I chose to keep it in data for JF since it's easier for users to set up, but he will be controlling his own updates so it makes sense for him to have it in /system/bin). In order to replace it in TheDude's ROM do the following in terminal emulator:

su

mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system

rm /system/bin/a2sd.sh

cp /sdcard/a2sd.sh /system/bin/

reboot
[G1 Android Development] beagz:
MoonDust Operational!

My apologies to Manup but I just had to port another one. I love switching between MoonDust and Prodigal Sun and now I can do it again. Thanks for the great themes. Gonna be hard once you release that new one *I will have 3 to switch out*.

Anyway here are your screens!!
[G1 Android Development] limakev123:
private apps issue

I tryed doing that to get the private apps going to the app-private folder. That script is for that purpose or did i misunderstand something? Also when i did it I got cannot stat /sdcard/a2sd.sh': no such file or directory

did i mess anything up. Im on dudes 1.1 with the apps to sd 2 app and my apps go to the sd card but not the private apps and i thought this script would put the private apps to the app-private directory that i made.

Please if anyone has any ideas?

Thanks Kevin
[G1 Android Development] MarcusMaximus04@gmail.com:
Those posted steps are for updating the a2sd script The Dude uses for apps to sd, with my latest version(I wrote the script, The Dude was kind enough to build it into his ROM). To find the latest version follow the first link in my signature and download the attached a2sd.zip. Then put a2sd.sh from that zip file and put it on your sdcard(in the topmost directory) and then follow those steps. The latest version has a fix for the non-installing protected apps issue.

NOTE: installing the newer script will make phone storage show up as the space you allocated to the ext2 partition. This is normal, so don't freak out :)
[G1 Android Development] stogchris81:
Did you download the a2sd.sh file from murcus' "new and improved a2sd" thread and put it on your /sdcard? If not, you need to do that and run the command again.
[G1 Android Development] limakev123:
pected apps

Thanks for repy!!! I will try that. If is just update with your new apps to sd2 off of the market and do it that way will that work?
[G1 Android Development] limakev123:
No is did not and thats why I think it did not work. I just re falshed everything and did all the steps over again. I am gonna try that now. Im gonna put that file at the top of my sd card and re do that script.
[G1 Android Development] limakev123:
Also I just want to say thanks to everyone for answering my questions. If it was not for this site and the kindness of everyone I would not have the phone that I do. So thanks everyone and I will try that soon!
[G1 Android Development] Ronnymes:
Thank you! love the original theme ;)
[G1 Android Development] applemonster:
So what exactly is stored in the dalvik cache? I keep seeing that mentioned but I'm not quite sure what's in there.
[G1 Android Development] limakev123:
I did it and it worked thanks to Marcus!!! Awsome now everything works the way it should.!!!! Sorry to be a pain but one more question lol anyone know why the wallpaper wont change?
[G1 Android Development] limakev123:
I did it and it worked thanks to Marcus AND stogchris81;3771366 !!! Awsome now everything works the way it should.!!!! Sorry to be a pain but one more question lol anyone know why the wallpaper wont change?
[G1 Android Development] limakev123:
wALLPAPER

SCRACH

The wallpaper does work now!! This is build is great now.. It was not working last night but this must be an updated one.. Well awsome and thanks to JF DUDE and Huy. Thanks to Marcus this app to sd2 app makes everything much much easier and it ever makes a ext2 partition now dam. I wish that was around months ago when i could not make the dam partition because i did not know that I needed to reboot the phone so the phone sees the ext2 partition but we all learn from out mistakes!!

Thank you all
[G1 Android Development] MarcusMaximus04@gmail.com:
I do what I do :cool:
[G1 Android Development] iso67:
Hi, I'm a noob unfortunatly, and I'm reading this 3d for quite a few days now, but I'm still confused!:confused::confused:

I have the JF ADP 1.5 now, without any apps2sd. I'd like to install the dude1.1a expecially for the apps2sd, but I'm not sure of what I have to do starting from scratches! I can wipe, no problem at all! I just partitioned (with fat32 and ext2) a 8gb trascend sd!

so what I should do? which is my starting point? should I have to install the apps2sd application, or everiting is included in the dude?

please help me!!!!!:o
[G1 Android Development] MarcusMaximus04@gmail.com:
Flash The Dude's ROM(with a wipe is suggested), then once that's up and running use appstosd2 to move your apps over. Don't use the first appstosd, it won't work.
[G1 Android Development] chicojd:
VACATION!!?? Are you kidding!?

Vacation? In the midst of the Cupcake mania!!!??? I would not have expected this!

Just kidding Dude... thanks for all your great work. Hopefully you were able to get enough donations for some tasty cocktails on your vacation! Still Dude, Vacation? Really?
[G1 Android Development] ameridane:
stereo bluetooth

So, first of all, THANK YOU for all the work!!! This build is so amazing! I run to the pc every night just waiting to see what else you've all done to make my G1 the device I was hoping it'd be out of the box.

That said, I have one wish. I had the Dash before (HTC excalibur) and some wonderful person had created a program to send all sound via the bluetooth to the headset. I listened to music on the subway with it. I do NOT own a stereo bluetooth headset, nor do I want to because it isn't practical for me. Is it possible, with a little 1 ear iLuv bluetooth headset to get the audio sent to it, despite the fact that it isn't a stereo headset? I believe the phone only sees it as something that can handle phone calls, and not as something that someone would want to listen to music on.

I will also say, I may just be missing something and it is possible? Thanks for any help!
[G1 Android Development] JAWheat411:
Do you have a download link? Would be cool to keep all these together somewhere. I like change also. I can't keep the same theme on my phone for more than a week.:p
[G1 Android Development] mrmonto:
Apps2SD2 on JF1.5 too

I am in the same boat, but I already purchased Apps2SD2 on JF1.5 and haven't partitioned, created dirs, or copied apps to sd yet. I want to go to Dude 1.1a, but not sure the best and safest way to do this.

* Should I partition the sd, create dirs, and copy apps to sd on JF1.5 first, then wipe phone, then flash the dude's ROM

* Or flash the dude's ROM then run apps2sd on that.

I'm not sure how to re-install apps from sd after saving apps to sd via App Manager then wiping, so my worry is that I may have to purchase the apps2sd app (and other paid apps) again after flashing to the dudes 1.1a. Help please! :confused: Thanks!
[G1 Android Development] stogchris81:
what ever happens, the market always know what you have purchased. you can re-download as many times as you need once you paid for it.
[G1 Android Development] mrmonto:
Flash Dude, then Apps2SD2

OK, thanks! Sounds like a wipe, flash of the Dudes 1.1a, then run the apps to sd2 app? Did I read that the A2SD2 app actually creates the sd partitons for you now? Any advice on bkup/reinstalling apps so I don't have to dwnld them all over again?
[G1 Android Development] sandshrimp:
I know I responded on the other thread but wanted others to know that this works.
[G1 Android Development] MarcusMaximus04@gmail.com:
Ah, I thought the market tracks by google account? Not absolutely sure but that was my impression. At any rate, there shouldn't be any problem keeping apps on the sd card before switching to The Dude's. The apps should show up as soon as it's done flashing.
[G1 Android Development] mrmonto:
Since all I have done is just purchase and install the A2SD2 app in JF1.5 (nothing else). Should I just run the A2SD2 app in JF1.5, then wipe, then flash to Dude1.1a?

Or just wipe, flash to Dude1.1a then do all the apps2sd stuff (BTW - did I read that the app creates the paritions for you?).

Looking for the simplest/easiest way that would potentially eliminate any screw-ups. Thanks!
[G1 Android Development] MarcusMaximus04@gmail.com:
easiest way is running it in JF1.5 and then flashing to TheDude's, that way you don't have to redownload everything. Also, yes it will create the second partition for you if you don't already have one(be really patient, it takes a while and restarting it/pulling the battery will make it not start unless you re-flash the ROM)
[G1 Android Development] brandon15811:
Its

adb pull /system/sd/app app

adb pull /system/sd/app-private app-private

not

adb shell pull /system/sd/app app

adb shell pull /system/sd/app-private app-private
[G1 Android Development] mrmonto:
Thanks! So I'll follow your tutorial for A2SD2 for JF1.5. I do have to do a wipe before flashing to Dude1.1a correct?
[G1 Android Development] g2crx:
Man I'm so tempted to update to 1.1a.ut dont wanna go thru the bs if phone loops. What to do?what to do?:confused:
[G1 Android Development] Ryanmo5:
JF said to immediately wipe after install, will fix it.
[G1 Android Development] iso67:
really many thanks! so that's it? don't I've to copy or write in your guide "New and very much improved apps to sd method" (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=512743)? When I should use that? just in case of an already installed dude's fw to upgrade apps2sd or to use it with jf 1.5 asp?

should I eliminate the ext2 partition I just made with gparted and let apps2sd2 create it again to avoid duplication of ext2 partition?

and how to put in sd not only apps but also the cache?

appstosd2 is the one I can download from the "New and very much improved apps to sd method"? here in italy we have problems to buy from market!
[G1 Android Development] meww:
I am having problems running protected apps that I download from the market . I have the latest build from the first page of this thread. Anyone know how to fix that.
[G1 Android Development] lance713:
I would look through the thread but I can't go through 300 pages... I went through the first couple though.

How do I install the resources zip??? I get an unsigned error when I do the update.zip/alt-s trick.
[G1 Android Development] g2crx:
you can install them with a app.installer from the market or adb push it.
[G1 Android Development] circa85:
unzip to your sd
[G1 Android Development] MarcusMaximus04@gmail.com:
The Dude's ROM already has that method built in, so that tutorial isn't necessary.

Also, there's no reason to erase the ext2 partition only to have appstosd2 make it again, it has that functionality for people who are having trouble partitioning it. If you already have the partitions set up it won't run the partitioner.

You should only use the bit about updating the script when The Dude's script is outdated(as it currently is). You should do that once you already have TheDude's ROM flashed.

For moving cache: I don't provide support for moving the normal app cache due to it being extremely unstable. Don't attempt to move the /data/data directory to the sd card, my script will delete it(necessary for wallpaper fix). You can move dalvik-cache from within appstosd2.
[G1 Android Development] g2crx:
So if I'm still on 1.0 I should do the update on your tutorial?I have updated your app from the market already.
[G1 Android Development] MarcusMaximus04@gmail.com:
Heh, ya, probably. Even the latest Dude ROM doesn't have the current script(Dude's on vacation)
[G1 Android Development] mrmonto:
Apps to SD question within dude1.1a

This may be a dumb question, but flashing to the dude1.1a ROM should work if I currently don't have my apps on sd right (no ext2 partition either)? I am running JF1.5. I'll just have to dnwld them from the market again right? Will they automatically install on the sd card by default? The reason being, I'm waiting for my larger sd card to arrive and I don't know of an easy way to move apps between sd cards with Windows XP. Should I just wait to do this until I get the larger sd card? Any info would be greatly appreciated!

PS - Is it necessary to wipe b4 flashing to dude1.1a from JF1.5? Thanks!
[G1 Android Development] TheDudeOfLife:
I wouldn't call it vacation ;)
[G1 Android Development] g2crx:
Well call it that you took a few P.T.O days ;)
[G1 Android Development] alinsson:
JF version

I've installed JFv1.5 (JFv1.50_ADP1.5) and when I do getprop ro.modversion it shows JFv1.50 but when I do Alt+S on the cell it shows Android system recovery utility build JFv1.43. Why?

Now I installed I'm using The Dude's Cupcake 1.1a Full (3rdparty/dev apps/Manup Blue Theme) and with getprop ro.modversion it shows blank.
[G1 Android Development] zzabbas:
First of all it does not work automatically... You need to create a ext2 secondary partition, and run a couple adb commands (not hard and if you tell us the install path of adb binary... we can tell you the exact command)

How small is your card? If you have even 1gb... I don't see why you would run out... apps on the market are a couple mb at most. The reason I bring this up... is the apps are installed to ext2 partition... hence you will not see them on your sd card... at least not in windows. For what you want to do ...

And always a wipe is not necessary with Dude Releases... but it is highly recommended... for you coming from another version... I would recommend it even more.
[G1 Android Development] iso67:
Just two question:

1. I didn't install any SDK or ADB and I know what is the SDK but not the ADB.... what is it? How I install both?!!??! Do I need them for normal use and for apps2sd?

2. Everyone is purchasing apps2sd2 from market, but in Italy we have problems to puechasing apps from market (we still can't). the apps2sd2 available for downloading from the marcus 3d (mew and improved...) is the same stuff or a different one?
[G1 Android Development] dkuliyev:
To ISO67,

No you don't need ADB or the Android SDK.... You can do it all off the terminal It just might make ur phone loop..... I just wiped and it helped....

The AppsToSD 2 New and Improved is the same as AppsToSD2 for 1.00 on the market....i just got it to work I have 444 mb free internal storage...
[G1 Android Development] iso67:
thanks!

so no need to buy apps2sd2, the one I downloaded from "new and improved" is the last version?

but what is ADB? where I could find it and how I should install?
[G1 Android Development] Serpico1979:
hi,

My SD is formatted in 2 partition :

- fat 32

- ext2

ALT+W

ALT+S (installed dude 1.1a)

before the memory was 51 mb

after the app installation is 40 Mb

with busybox df -h the filesysetm report a strange directory called

../loop0

../loop1

and

/system/intmem contain the app installed!

/system/intmem is = /data

if i install manually the app is system/sd remian always empty!!!

is there a bug in 1.1.a???
[G1 Android Development] Olivier34:
Bug

I had a bug last evening : when conncected by USB (without media mounted on Linux, just connected), my G1 is not abble to save anything (market applications, pictures from the web...). Each time, the application crash (Market, Browser...).

At boot (when connected in usb) android.process.media crash.

Without USB cable connected, all works fine.

(Dude version 1.1 applications on sd card)
[G1 Android Development] laloch:
adb (Android Debug Bridge) is a part of the SDK.
[G1 Android Development] iso67:
How I should install the SDK?
[G1 Android Development] Bavilo:
You don't install the SDK. Just download it, and unzip it somewhere. Done.
[G1 Android Development] iso67:
somewhere in the phone? where? how to lunch ADB?
[G1 Android Development] jaaronmoody:
there is a thread on this forum "adb for dummies" not saying you are one, but thats where your answer is.
[G1 Android Development] brianb7590:
Google : http://developer.android.com/sdk/1.5_r1/installing.html

Unzip(on your computer) then set your path variable (see link) then just run from the command line prompt( on computer)
[G1 Android Development] iso67:
nobody knows if the apps2sd2 downloadable from the 3d "new and improves..." of marcus is the same send from market?
[G1 Android Development] manup456:
Wipe flash 1.1a then wipe again and then re-format the partition and do the commands for apps to s.d again listed below,and i find 1.1a to be a little buggy as far as apps to s.d goes try it with 1.1a and if it's still looping try a older version like 94 to see if it works.

1. df

2. cp -a /data/app /system/sd

3. cp -a /data/app-private /system/sd

4. rm -r /data/app

5. rm -r /data/app-private

6. ln -s /system/sd/app /data/app

7. ln -s /system/sd/app-private /data/app-private

8. reboot note: Detach plug immediately
[G1 Android Development] iso67:
yes I am!!!! :(

thanks a lot! it will be very usefull!

btw: when I install SDK, should I install eclipse as well also if I don't want the develop any software?

thanks a lot to everyone... thanks for your patients!
[G1 Android Development] brianb7590:
No need for eclipse.
[G1 Android Development] mrmonto:
Aero Theme - Connect your Charger

I'm experiencing this, as well, I'd also like to know when this is fixed. The Theme is awesome! Thanks! :)
[G1 Android Development] MarcusMaximus04@gmail.com:
Noooo. All he had to do was make a /system/sd/app directory...

EDIT: Also step 6 and 7 would make self-pointing symlinks...
[G1 Android Development] manup456:
Not sure i always do it this way and never have a problem you know a little more about this than me so i'm pretty sure your correct. :)
[G1 Android Development] MasterBunnyFu:
I seem to be missing /system/modules/`uname -r`/fs/ext2 which means I can't mount my ext2 partition. Am I missing something, or do I need to download that separately?

Edit: Nevermind. I figured out that it now uses unionfs.ko
[G1 Android Development] DarkFoxDK:
Nice, although the blue theme burns my eyes badly...

The ext2 partition still gets corrupted at reboot though, so apps 2 sd is totally useless to me, as I start loosing or breaking random apps over time.

This seems to be caused by the new way the ext2 partition is mounted... is there a way to make it do it the old way?
[G1 Android Development] cjlyrix:
i learned something last night

ok... last night i flashed back to jfv1.5 to wait for the official official dude's release... i realized i had to reformated my ext2 to make my apps run. i was at work and i was in desperate need of my phone lol so i found a way to delete app and app-private and dalvik and data off my /system/sd.

the realization came when i notice that this command "mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system" is used to be able to write files in the system folder. i noticed that the /system/sd folder is under mtdblock2 instead of 3 even though it says "/dev/block/mmcblk0p2"

(so i..)

su

mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock2 /system/sd

(and proceeded to..)

busybox rm -rf /system/sd/app

(one by one.. and it works)

i doubled check using astro to see if anything is in that folder.. and nothing was

so instead of reformating ur sd.. taking all that time looking for a partition manager that works... before you flash dude's build... you can.. take his update.zip and have it ready in your sd... go to terminal and delete them files and reboot holding home b4 the g1 screen comes up.. let go when recovery starts. flash and success. (note: if not flashing... do not do the steps above because nothing will run unless u delinked the symlink.. dont forget to wipe)
[G1 Android Development] manup456:
Yeah the old way is the way i posted a few post back,and as far as the theme there is a build without it because it burn's your eyes lol...i would check your eye's out you may have vision problems.
[G1 Android Development] DarkFoxDK:
Haha :P

I got the full bulid and installed the default theme, so that problem is fixed. :)

Edit: And I was not referring to the method of putting the apps to the sd card, (symlink, etc.) but the way the sd card is mounted (shell script or fstab'ish stuff).
[G1 Android Development] manup456:
;) It's cool i got you,the default theme is awesome my grandmother loved it to say's it has a nice 70's look but ill stick with my theme.

:P Back at you lol....
[G1 Android Development] cjlyrix:
yea.. i like the old way.. its easier for me bc i can remember the.. scripts. looking for programs takes too much time.
[G1 Android Development] overground:
Well, I love your theme, Manup. Thanks!

Oh, ya....and my grandma does, too!
[G1 Android Development] Infinite.Finite:
So this is probably more a question for Manup, but is there a way to have the original theme but still have a black background in the text messaging? I'm loving the default blue one you made but I was curious about that still.
[G1 Android Development] johnp888:
screen orientation

i'm currently using the Dude's 1.1 and the screen only rotates when i have dxtop home app activated. the native home app won't rotate when i turn my phone sideways without the keyboard flipped open. so is this the home app itself that doesn't have this capability? or do i have to set something? thanks.
[G1 Android Development] rascal00:
It should rotate as long as you aren't on the home screen. Have you tried rotating your phone in the browser?
[G1 Android Development] johnp888:
i was referring to whether the home screens will rotate. most of the apps and dxtop home app will rotate the screen. wonder if there is a reason that i missed.