yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[P3400 ROM Development] nisalatp:
Poor Old Gene

I swim everuwhere, But no luck. All those links has been removed. And you know...

I have flashed my Poor Old Gene 8 times within 12 hours now. Cant do it any longher Will revert back to my sweet Sumits WM3.1.1 ROM. We had enough for one day.

@Sumit: I will be waiting till you confirm a working edition of WM6.5. Good luck
[P3400 ROM Development] charge1313:
I think I've encountered a bug or something.

I noticed that MS voice command was taking up ~1.5 Mb of ram even though I was not using it so I killed the process using the FDCsoft taskmanager that was included in the rom.

Now I can't get voice command to start at all. Even on soft reset.

I just get a message saying that I should re-install it.

Even going to the windows directory and trying to start it (voicecmd.exe) gives me the error saying that: "Cannot start voice command. Reinstall and try again"

Any ideas?

And BTW, Isn't MS voice command a paid app? Wouldn't including it be a violation of the no werz rule? Just asking....
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
@charge1313: The version of Voice Command that i have included is the standard version and it comes with all the newer SYS. So i dont think its illegal, but if you can, do try to find out more.If its illegal, i will definately remove it from future ROMs.

@nisala: This is getting a bit irritating now. The same XIP that was working fine on 21728 was used as base this time, how come it is not working now??? :confused: And there cant be other problems coz i am using the same oem that was in 21728, just the SYS is different and the SYS is working fine on new gene. I dunno what to do now.

Will try to port the xip again. Otherwise, i have no idea right now, sorry guys.
[P3400 ROM Development] nisalatp:
Hmmm, I wish that would work. If not, Poor Us. Anyway, Thanks Sumit for your time and effort.

Anyway, Can you please make available your Last version of WM 6.5 that was proved to be working? (If I am not asking too much?) that will be a great pleasure for all the Old Gene Owners, since we are now have nowhere to go.
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
The older version that worked on gene, 21728, is still in the first post. I always keep previous 2 solid, stable builds in first post.
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
For saving ram, download the CameraLoader cab file from this forum, it has been shared by helgee in some thread i dont remember exactly. Install this camera loader, go to the \Program Files\CamerLoader folder and run CameraToogle.lnk only once. Then go to \WIndows\Start Menu\Programs and copy Camera.lnk from there. Paste this file in the \Windows\AppButtons folder overwriting the file already there and then reboot. You will get 4 MB more RAM.

There is no extra theme in this rom, i have just set a wallpaper on first boot, Theme is the same default blue. Wallpaper files are by the name daisy_p.jpg and daisy_l.jpg present in the \Windows folder. p and l in the names signify Portrait and Landscape if you are wondering. Just set one of these as your wallpaper.

And guess what these wallpapers are licensed too :D I got these from Microsoft in the "Your Windows Mobile World" monthly newsletter. These are free to distribute :)
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Another attempt at fixing old gene problem : Try it out guys :o
[P3400 ROM Development] salim1001:
Hi Krazy,

Just downloaded and tried flashing the ROM - Sorry the same problem again. Its stuck at the boot screen with windows 6.5. No sound, No Errors!!

Thanks for trying!
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Guys, please try changing the page pool of the rom to 5 MB and see if it helps. In the meanwhile, i have one more fix coming in my mind, lets see if that works. I will upload another version tomorrow. One thing is sure, there is no problem in the xip. All my efforts till now are in vain, i think the xip must have been working right even with the initvmmap.exe as the problem is same even after removing it. If i could have an old gene for one day, this will be solved easily :o
[P3400 ROM Development] BesFen:
Hi Krazyy,

Xip you privided in ankit thread, is it ready to use on New Gene Without modifying .VM?

Thank you.
[P3400 ROM Development] nisalatp:
Sumit,

I tred changing the page pool to 6MB. Still no hope. No error msg either. Well. I also think it may not be the XIP, As i suggest earlier. My poor gene was flashed again, and again these days.

I remember you made a WM 6.5 with TouchFLO2D. If it is still available somewhere, Can I have the Link please? It's a Memory hog, I know, but it makes lot of things easy. This new Titanium Today Plugin is freakin me out.

I remeber there was a nice finger friendly keypad in one of Ankits wm 6.5 rom. I think it makes load of things easy. Specially sending sms. Here I request to include at least one finger frindly key pad for next editions of rom. Since GENE dose not have a hardware keyboard, this will be a good help for PPl like me
[P3400 ROM Development] nisalatp:
BesFen, Can I have your WM 6.5 + M2D rom? For Old Gene? Please? How it's perfomances?
[P3400 ROM Development] Siddharth Thevaril:
Can anyone please post the original HTC P3400i wm6 ROM
[P3400 ROM Development] techmate:
@Krazy: Any luck with fix for OLD GENE:confused:? It really is surprising that the new build ROM is refusing to work on OLD GENE.
[P3400 ROM Development] tendulkardr:
hi sumit

should i go for v 4

i am using v3

it is becoming slower and slower day by day

battery is excelent

but the response time is getting slower maens u can make it out

but still i am on 6.5 v3

does this thing be improved by v4

just out of curiosity
[P3400 ROM Development] tendulkardr:
hi sumit

should i go for v 4

i am using v3

it is becoming slower and slower day by day

battery is excellent

but the response time is getting slower means one can make it out

but still i am on 6.5 v3

does this thing be improved by v4

asking just out of curiosity:rolleyes:
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
No, i am also thinking on switching to Pro Users 6.1 ROM after making some changes to it. 6.5 is still sluggish even with all these releases and builds, after you start to use it really, the ram problem kicks in, usability is hindered and even though i love the interface very much, its doesn't seems to be my cup of tea for now.
[P3400 ROM Development] charge1313:
@tendulkardr and krazy_about_technology

Hmmm... I like v4 a LOT.

It seems to be way faster than v3 - the scrolling in smooth and the animations are better.

Even the sensitivity seems to have improved.

Yes, there is a memory leak somewhere - opera etc cause free ram to drop from ~20 Mb to ~13 Mb sometimes (even with close all apps/oxios hybernate)

Personally I prefer it even to the M2D Roms (VanilaManila etc). Its stable enough, has enough free ram and the changes in 6.5 are actually improving usability and not just looks....
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
@everyone:

has anyone tried TitaniumWeather ?

@krazy:

doesnt work for me, shows only x s. xan you make it wok :D?
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Yes, you need a fixed .mscr script. I will post it sometime later. Actually accuweather has changed its format for sending weather update feed.
[P3400 ROM Development] danny7837:
Well after reading dheerajk27's experience with WM 6.5 after disabling titanium, I tried it on my old gene, currently using 21728 build (as the newer builds unfortunately didn't work on old gene..:(), loaded with SPB shell and S2U2 and even after a day's heavy usage, ram is hovering around 18-19 mb (after running hibernate once though..:p)...and I think that really proves that the main culprit behind the memory leakage was the titanium interface...:)
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Awesome! Manilla! Here i come :D

Anyways fun apart, You guys please also check whether these leaks are happening using the original titanium configuration or when we use some third party plugin. Try running the phone with default titanium setup for a day.

I cant do it as i am on Pro User's ROM 6.1 v2.7 right now. Getting great battery backup on it :)
[P3400 ROM Development] danny7837:
The leaks are happening both ways, using original titanium configuration as well as after running third party plugins, the latter maximizes the leak...:(

But WM 6.5 build 21728 still feels quite unstable, although besfen's 21815 build, felt more stable and less of a ram-eater..:p..(without titanium)

Flashed pro user's 2.7 and it feels like it is light years ahead of 6.5 in terms of speed and stability...thanks so much for another exceptional rom buddy...:)
[P3400 ROM Development] Blueangel180:
when i had the 21501 pro users when ever i soft-reseted my phone or shut it off the network would go offline, it would take a good amount of reboots to get it online again,today i upgraded to 21812 pro users and the phone just refuses to connect to the network,the network tab doesn't respond nor does the comm manager or any of the network settings..i tried rebooting like a million times

HELP! :(
[P3400 ROM Development] kb_htc4173:
kb

hey thnx dude jst downloaded ur new vrsion bt i want to be creator like u i want to learn how to make a rom can u plz help me......:) thnxxxxxxxxxx
[P3400 ROM Development] Duron23:
Start with ramersonw's how to cook of gene

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=479703

Search around the forum, you will get all the reading material to become a chef
[P3400 ROM Development] Dhanishmohan:
Problem with this rom

Hi,

I installed windows mobile 6.5{this rom} in my old gene and its showing only upto the windows mobile 6.5 logo and showing error that "Device start up failed due to sudden loss of power" click yes to continue.

But iam sure that my gene have enough battery power.Please tell me what is the problem.
[P3400 ROM Development] nisalatp:
Old gene problem...

Dude,

We have gone through this for while and, theres no solution. Please may I remind "PLEASE SEACH PEFORE YOU POST"

We have tried every possible way to come out, but failed. We are waiting for Crazy to come up with a solution.

Please, Please, Please read before you post.

No offence to you.
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Reflash the ROM. While flashing ROMs never use your computer for some other tasks, and disable anything that runs in background and can take too much processor time.

Also, do not touch the USB cable or the Phone while its flashing.
[P3400 ROM Development] nisalatp:
No Sumit,

I think this is the same problem I faced when I flask it. It is not due to anything about flashing. It is the problem we were discussing earlier. Anyway sumit, when are you going to relese the next edition of VM?
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
May be, i guess thats why HTC itself doesn't supports/releases ROMs for these phones. For one, these are old devices and they dont want to sell these anymore, Second, they have screwed up so much in hardware design in old and new gene, they fear of messing it up, No single rom can run perfectly on old and new gene, and officially they dont have any distinction between these two brothers from same mother :D
[P3400 ROM Development] nisalatp:
Sumit, can you throw a light on my Stratup Splash Screen problem i mentioned above please?
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Yes, all PDAVIET ROMs contain the splash screens. I can tell you about the tools to change it but its a bit complicated. Send me the image that you want to set as your splash (should be a JPG or BMP with dimensions 240x320 widthxheight) and i will send you a splash ROM that you can flash to get your screen. This ROM wont touch your OS.
[P3400 ROM Development] nisalatp:
Wow Sumit! Are you saying that I dont need to re-fflash and re install all my "THINGS"?? Thats great news.. Sending the pic right now.
[P3400 ROM Development] danny7837:
Even I am a victim of PdaViet splash screen...:D

Nice image nisalatp..:)
[P3400 ROM Development] nisalatp:
@ Crazy, Thanks dear, I am waiting.

@ Danny, Take it man, I have lot more I have collected over the years.. Shall I put 'em online? Sumit, Do you need them too?
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
There you go. Use the attached ROM image to update your splash. This wont change anything on your phone, except your splash.

Well, it would be nice to have some good wallpapers/splashes, so why not? Zip em up in a file and upload on mediafire etc.
[P3400 ROM Development] nisalatp:
Sumit??? :D:D:D:D:D Attachment!!!
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
There you go. Use the attached ROM image to update your splash. This wont change anything on your phone, except your splash.

Well, it would be nice to have some good wallpapers/splashes, so why not? Zip em up in a file and upload on mediafire etc.

EDIT: Something is wrong with forum since last evening. Its damn slow and sometimes i am getting these double posts.
[P3400 ROM Development] danny7837:
Yup the forum is too slow to even browse through...thanks so much buddy for this splash-cure...:)
[P3400 ROM Development] nisalatp:
Sumit. It was Great!!! I hope you would flash it tooo... It was greater than thai I though. You are invited to use this in your all futur ROM's :D:D:D:D

He he he..

Can you let us know how to creat such nbh files? Or maybe post a titorial? that would be sooooooooo great.
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Great, enjoy your phone.

Nah, i have my own personalized splash screen with my photo on it :D

And no, i wont use it in future roms, many people dont like their splash changing.

The tutorial is already there, search this forum. Use the keyword "splash" for searching. :)
[P3400 ROM Development] charge1313:
@krazy_about_technology

Any plans for releasing a rom based on a new build of WM 6.5?

Just asking, thats all. Thought I'd hard-reset my phone and figured I'd might as well wait a few days if you had any such plans...
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Nah not now. The latest build at XDA and PPCGeeks, the 23001 is a branch cut off from 218xx to take it furthur and if you are wondering where did 22xxx gone, these are reserved for OEMs to customize the 218xx builds.

This new build is very heavy on memory and is not very suitable for our gene. A touch pro user reported a leak of 25 MB of memory after a single day on this build. So its better to stick with 21728 or 21815 or 21234, whatever suits you best.
[P3400 ROM Development] nisalatp:
Sumit;

I think you may make a VM rom out of 6.5 that was used in PU. Yesterday I flashed BestFen's 6.5 M2D V2. You believe it or not, With my general setup, (Which I was using in your VM3.1.1) I got 30.6 MB ram. After 1days heavy work now its running at 28~27. This is little better than and responsive sine I no longer need finger menu or S2U2. And for me its great. I mean I never expected thismuch from 6.5. With M2D loaded my ram swing netween 24~25. I use Facebook, Opera 9.7, SPB Traveler, And Phone Log Serveice to Log all possible communication loggable with it.

I seriousely think you may do something. We all know you work magics someware in your kitchens :D:D:D
[P3400 ROM Development] kalya:
mirror please!

Please someone post a mirror link.

Thanks.
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
@Nisala: Hmm. I am thinking about this for some days. Right now me using Pro Users 6.1 and my battery doesn't lasts more than 2-2.5 days while with WM 6.5 i get 3 days of backup. I am thinking about using the 21815 or the new 23001. The problem is, Ankit hasn't posted any SYS+XIP package for it. I will remove the titanium altogether if i insert m2d.
[P3400 ROM Development] charge1313:
If you're going to insert m2d please don't remove titanium all together... Or at least upload a version with both. I like titanium more than m2d (despite the ocassional memory issues) - its better from a productivity standpoint IMO.

Thanks
[P3400 ROM Development] nisalatp:
Sumit,

U do that. But dont use titanium. Its the root of the memory evil. Use M2D. with a theme matching theme to "Classic Blue" & add all the stuff in VM3.1.1 and Facebook if you can. Use bit small Icons in startmenu and big ones look horibal although they are fingure frendly. :D

I heard that new release has a series memory leak? if not, we are glad to welcome that. anyway, seriously, The version used in BestFen's is good enough to start with. Now I am on the second day, and I have 13~15MB free ram with M2D loaded and 17~19MB with M2D detached. ut perfomamces are as same.

Sugestion. Can you use add EzInput keyboard?. It is great with 6.5 and very much fingur frendly. Do not eat rem and thanks to ir, now only rerely I pull out my Stylus. :D:D:D:D
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
@krazy

have you seen the meroon black theme? looks pretty good (M2D).

May be you want to incorporate it in your next mv rom. if you need, i will upload it.
[P3400 ROM Development] rahmaneee:
This 6.5 rom was not working v4.0

Hello everybody , i having my old gene and i updated to 6.5 but it stuck in welcome screen and shows 6.5... Can any one tell me what was the problem ?? And my spl is olipro 1.20.
[P3400 ROM Development] nisalatp:
Rahmanee,

Please Look at the forum, Theres something wrong with Old Gene version and sumit already tried his best to sort that out. I am an old gene user too. Unfortunately, at the moment, theres no resolution over this. You may have to back off, till sumit comees up with a solution.

In the meantime you have other options,

Sumits

Pro Users 6.1 V7

VannilaManila 6.1 3.1.1

Or

BestFen's 6.5 v2

These roms are fantastick on old gene and you can flash and run with no worries in mind.

Hope this helped. :D :D :D
[P3400 ROM Development] orapradeep:
after upgrade to 6.5 screen showing windows mobile 6.5 only

Hi Krazy,

I followed your methods but I got bricked I guess.

I used SumitsProUsersROM_WM6.5_build21815_OldGene_Fixed to upgrade its struck at windows mobile 6.5 screen only nothing happening.

not able to flash again. Aslo want to note that while I was ugrading it shows me something like "sudden loss of power"

Pls help my phone is not working now.

thaks
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Would you mind reading the thread a bit? Old gene rom is not working right now. Flash some other rom for old gene and you'll be fine. Its not bricked.

I am removing the old gene link so accidents like this dont happen.
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
please keep the link. its kinda fun :D. BTW did u send it :p ?
[P3400 ROM Development] BesFen:
+1 :D:D LOL
[P3400 ROM Development] mori_jacobsen:
download old gene and extract to folder

RUU_Signed.nbh file not found in windows ???

please help me
[P3400 ROM Development] sant009m:
Hi, I m new to upgrading the Gene, so few questions,

I have new gene with Windows Mobile 6.0 so if i upgrade to Sumits ROm 6.5 and need to rollback to original wm6.0 then is it possible.
[P3400 ROM Development] nisalatp:
Reset while holding the Camara Key. You will come to a three color screen. and then Use USB to flash it the same way using RUU. You Will be fine.

Dont worry You are not Bricked.

Please mind to read the thread before you download and flash. Because, maybe some other time it will cost you your phone. You are luckey this time.

I normally read the full thread before downloading and flashing so I can wisely deside what I am about to do.
[P3400 ROM Development] techmate:
@Krazy: Hey no new ROM for last many days...:D:D. Hope the excitement continues:)
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
I am kind of hating Wm 6.5 these days, and there is no action on the 6.1 side, so i am enjoying my Pro Users ROM 2.7 right now. Its working absolutely phenomenal. I have rebuilt it with LZX compression and i got 49 MB free phone mem. Three days of running and i have 26 MB ram free, at start it is 31.80 MB with a highly responsive phone. I dont care about WM 6.5 at this time, i am happy with 6.1. If i hear about some stable build with some improvements, i will build rom around it. Otherwise, i am not gonna flash my phone again and again, good windows phones are very expensive right now and i cant risk loosing my gene (yes flashing does hurt the life of phone, there is only about a million times that we can write on the phone memory, and the reading writing also occurs during regular usage. )

Right now, i am learning python on my phone, by running the python interpreter on it and reading a book by APress : "Python : From Novice to Professional" by converting it to mobipocket format, believe me, its actually makes it possible to replace your paper books :) at least for me. And reading harry potter books in the free time is very enjoyable.

So i short, right now i am enjoying what i have done till now rather than just creating and flashing ROMs. Another fact is that i am right now traveling so dont have that much decent internet connection as well as free time.
[P3400 ROM Development] htc3400:
@krazy

+1 to this... :D
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
The only thing i miss in WM 6.1 is the long battery life that 6.5 offers :| So when i have to go out of Delhi on a trip, i am forced to use a WM 6.5 ROM. In the morning i was using Pro Users but now i have to use my 21280 WM 6.5 ROM right now as 6.1 dies out in just one day :(
[P3400 ROM Development] PREMOLIKES:
@krazy

Build 21820 seems to be pretty cool, and stable. Ever tried it ?. The only thing in the build is that I could not type password in Opera mini.
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Running it right now dude :) I am using it with HTC Home and the only problem i have seen yet is Internet Explorer not showing the icon in front of address bar. I will check for the OPera issue.
[P3400 ROM Development] ankantsid:
Newbie Doubts!

I have just bought the gene and have confirmed that it is the new gene.

I read Krazy's instructions a dozen times about updating the ROM but still have some doubts and i hope you could help me out fast as I have to shift to a hostel in 3 days.

Doubt 1-

Since i know its a new gene, I should directly use the Orefkov patch. However how do i go about it?

Doubt 2-

I have Krazy’s Windows mobile 6.5 version 4 which is of approx 50 mb size. How do I copy it to the phone without memory card?
[P3400 ROM Development] sweetashun:
just follow the instructions carefully

you dont have to copy that buddy...just follow the instruction given by krazzy..

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=472169

And welcome to the family of gene.......
[P3400 ROM Development] ankantsid:
Sorry for doubt 2...................it was very clear!

As for Doubt 1 , it still remains.
[P3400 ROM Development] ankantsid:
Stuck again!

i am stuck at the following step-i am quoting from krazy's instruction for patching............................

4. On PC, go to the folder Orefkov in the folder extracted in step 1 and run the Mtty1_42.exe. Press the button "USB" in the window that opened.

5. In the window that opened, type the following command (don't use copy paste please) and press enter:

Code:

set 32 1

in step 4, after i press USB button that appears on phone, no window appears. what should I do? Please help at earliest possible!
[P3400 ROM Development] ankantsid:
Followup to previous post!

sorry, a window doesnt appear, but a dialog box does, which shows a dozen options and i am real panicky right now!

also apologize for posting again and again!
[P3400 ROM Development] ankantsid:
Sorry for all the trouble!

All the steps finally worked out...............turns out that i was missing an icon in the setup process and was therefore flummoxed. thanks a lot to Krazy for his tutorial.