yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] carlowise:
i read every #4005 posts. few day back the problem is battery drain on this forum. nobody mentioned that before in earlier post, must be some 3rd party apps.I assume.

I dont have battery drain problem, disabled receive all incoming beams in connection settings, and disabled 3g because the signal is poor and searching causes very batt drain. not using any "facelift" exept tsowen's taskbar.

but alarm didnt turn on few times and phone gets really hot sometimes when using radio.

Can't wait 3.4 anyway.

Crackwhore: How goes testing for v3.4, maybe u know release date?

tnx
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Digital Outcast:
It's good. We are on the 2nd beta right now. Dutty wants to incorporate some of the latest application releases and the newest Manila in this rom. He also wants it to be the best and his last one in this series so we are really trying to iron everything out first. As of now there is no set release date. All I can say is stay tuned! ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] demo1987:
Is he going for the Windows Mobile 6.5 Roms after 3.4???
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
Sounds plausible. I have very good battery life and have FlipIt disabled (I rotate manually)!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BLfan:
Sounds good. I look forward to the final WM 6.1 release :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] DarsVaeda:
hi,

unfortunatly i experience the same as reported somewhere above.

on a clean flashed phone with nothing opened:

if i open opera and try to close it via the menu at the top right the complete phone hangs up and i have to do a reset to get it back.

version i use is 3.3
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kauka187:
I think this is the best idea ive heard in a long time! The current rom is excellent bar a few bugs that only a few seem to be experiencing.

I would love it if the beta testers and dutty took their time and released a final version they can be proud of, because in the end a really polished rom will mean less headaches for everyone ie people bugging dutty for the next release lol

Let the rom be ready when its ready people!!! Then we all win
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Royan:
Actually it's not a bug i G-Alarm, it's on purpose.

From G-Alarm Faq:

http://www.ageye.de/index.php?s=galarm/faq

From G-Alarm Faq; hidden options

http://www.ageye.de/index.php?s=galarm/manual/hidden_options

brgds

Royan
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nearlygod:
100% agreed. Don´t hurry guys
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] someguy53000:
Right I can confirm that raw Dutty goodness is not a battery drainer. Only gone down to 97% when I got home again today. From what others have said, there are certainly some apps that chew battery more than others, but I now wonder if they would drain on any ROM. If anyone having problems has time, I'd try an alternative ROM such as stock maybe even (simple) and see if the programs they have still take out the battery. I have flipit as standard so I don't think flipit is an issue. I just realised the coloured taskbar thing came in around 3 didn't it, may explain a difference between >3 and <3 ROMs. If you like coloured taskbar there is the tsowen ones you could try instead (in different device thread here but same ones for all WM devices as long as VGA width I think (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=3758394)

The battery logger wasn't that successful. The lowest it reported was ~30mA, and infrequently as well, mostly saying more, but I don't have enough battery drain to suggest that much current was being drawn all day (30mAx14 hours = 420 mAh, so should have lost about 30%. I dunno whats going on there. I trust the battery level from system more than an interpolation from the logger (maybe it draws 30mA to take a reading, who knows?)

I remember having my battery only last 8 hours when I had it loaded up with programs and checking e-mails a lot, so I've had a battery drainer myself in the past - but this was on stock before I flashed any custom ROM and I had outlook in on demand mode.

So, I reckon if you have battery problems, check your programs, check your usage pattern, avoid outlook in on demand mode, avoid backlight on full all the time, etc. Probably safe though not to blame Dutty. Maybe a separate thread could be setup for people interested in isolating programs that drain battery a lot. As for me, I gonna stick to a minimal setup as Dutty intended. Very much looking forward to v3.4.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jake_tenfloors:
Well after acouple of hairy moments i've finally flashed Duttys rom, and its blooming great :) Can't wait for v3.4 :D

Jake
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] carlowise:
sounds fantastic, it's really great work guys.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ZekeWolf:
I didn't use Flip-it on this ROM, but still had massive batt. drain. It is gone now, since I uninstalled the taskbar and the clock.

Still have 15% on my battery - used the phone heavily since 8 am this morning - 16 hours!! (before, I needed to charge it after 6 hours....)

So, I think I can say that this version is at least as good as the 3.0 on battery.

For all with battery drain problems: some .cab or program you installed is probably causing the problem, could be a combination even.

In my case it was the above mentioned.

(I feel like I am repeating myself alot -- but I am so HAPPY that my battery drain is GONE! :D:D:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
No freezes tonight :)

I think it was mentioned before but I want to post it again for reference:

if you delete an SMS message from the manila menu, the delete confirmation screen says: IDS_CONFIRM_DELETE. This should be easy to correct.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Digital Outcast:
What did you change to fix the freezing?

Oh and yeah that SMS issue is already fixed in 3.4 beta! :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lopikcz:
MicNeo TaskBar - battery drain

I was thinking a little how the MicNeo TaskBar cab from "Duttys HD V3.2 XT Add on Cabs" can affect the battery life.

MicNeo TaskBar cab does 3 things :

1) replaces several bmp (GPS-icon.bmp, GPS-icon Mask.bmp, BT Stereo headset.bmp, BT Stereo headset Mask.bmp, and so on)

- this can't have impact on battery, those icons are "loaded" no matter if they are original from WM or customized

2) in makes some registry entries connected with certificates to avoid problem with edited dll files which don't have original signatures

- just adding a few certificates will not build a huge list of them which must be processed in some way so this can't have effect on battery life as well

3) it replaces DLL files (tapres.192.dll, outres.192.dll, phcanOverbmp.dll, shellres.192.dll, HTCVolumeControl.dll, notify.dll.0804.mui, MMSRes_480x800.dll, notify.dll.0409.mui)

- if this enhancement should have effect on battery it must be in this point

- replacing icon resources in dll file should have no effect as it is the same case as point 1)

- from all of this it results to me that the problem (if it is related to taskbar) is that the dll (or dll's) in MicNeo is different version than the one Dutty has included in his ROM. If those versions are the same than the effect on battery should be same wit hor withou. If not, there may rise some kind of "incompatibility" and the solution is to rework the taskbar by extracting icons and placing them into files Dutty has in his rom.

The only, and pretty important, thing is I'm not able to compare those versions as I don't have any Visual or so Studio and can't find utility which can do this. Anyone knows how to easily compare? Will keep on seachrcing for some..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Spike™:
very interesting mate,

well i certainly don't mind reworking the *dll's

for the new rom if needed,

to see if it helps??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lopikcz:
That's the question if it would help..

First I'd like to find out how to check if the dll's itself differs in some way (versions). I guess they do - have noticed that before installing MicNeo the buttons on a dial for entering PIN for SIM card fill the whole dial, however after installing the cab they appear smaller.

A bit tired now, will come back to it tomorrow - later today;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
I didn't change anything, that's the strange part. I haven't installed any new applications on my HD for a week now. Apart from that one freezing I had, it's solid as a rock, no problems. It was a day of relatively light usage on my HD (the only battery drainer would probably be a 15 min phone conversation) and after about 18 hours I still have 82% battery left. This includes a few SMS and periodic email checking on 3 accounts, 15 min. interval for one, 60 min interval for the other two, using GPRS - no Wi-Fi, 3G or HSDPA.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
Gmail is set up to use imap but the other two are pop3. I'll check the Gmail account about that setting but I get the same behavior in all my accounts, that's why I thought it could be a global setting somewhere.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] duttythroy:
new changel;og

Sorry guys not been active here but been busy with life. I'm still working on a new rom but time is killing me and I'm looking at few stuff in the rom like battery drainage etc, this is so far the upcoming changelog for v3.4 xt no ETA as yet

Dutty's HD V3.4 XT Ship Change Log Coming Soon

• Updated Official HTC CE OS & Build to 5.2.21048.1.6.3.

• Added New HTC Radio 1.14.25.24.

• This Rom is also based on the New official HD ROM Version 1.59.709.0.

• In order to upgrade successfully you can now flash with either USPL or HSPL 1.56

http://xdaforums.com/show...44&postcount=2

• This Rom was design to be close to Stock as possible with less 3rd party Applications.

• Internet Sharing Fixed.

• Improved Memory Management.

• Updated OEM Drivers.

• Updated Cyberon Voice Speed Dial with new Icon.

• Updated Google Map Version 3.0.1.6.

• Updated Most HTC Apps some listed below:

• Updated HTC Manila V2.1 [New].

• Updated HTC Streaming Media.

• Updated HTC Task Manager.

• Updated HTC Touch Keyboard.

• Updated HTC Media Toolkit.

• Updated HTC Voice Recorder.

• Updated HTC YouTube Application.

• Updated Opera Version

• Updated Microsoft Windows Live Application. Etc.

• Added MS Face book Application.

• Added Sun Java Application.

• Fixed Opera freezing issue.

• Fixed some minor issues in ROM.

• Enable 6 tab support in Opera.

• Rom will be available in 3 versions [ Standard, CVSD & MSVC ].

• Improve Rom speed even more see benchmarks below].
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Gisbourne:
I cannae wait :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
Thanks, we'll be patiently waiting then :p

One request though, if you decide to stick with the default windows logo, could you make a cab available so that we can change the start button to the HTC logo that was on v3.1?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tatou26:
I was wondering what are the improvements in Manila 2.1.

Any real new feature, or just more stable?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pandemoniumone:
Thank you sir for the update. Looking forward to the release, your work is most appreciated!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] yoong:
While on the subject of battery life. After a soft reset, at TaskManager>Applications there are three running applications, Task Manager, Start and ActiveSync. Only ActiveSync can be closed. However after some phone calls, at TaskManager>Applications, in addition to the three, there are TWO phone applications running which cannot be closed. Could these be the processes that are draining the battery?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] EXO:
V3.4 sure comes with quite a bit of updates, can't wait!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sunish:
6 tab opera would be nice.... along with better battery reporting..

waiting for the new release.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dutchprop:
Opera problem (not the freezing part)

Off course I had the freezing part when closing Opera, but this was fixed when installing the "enable push internet.cab"

When I open Opera and go to a site it works fine. When closing Opera with the X in right top of screen, it closes. The settings for this X are set to "Close program".

When I continue using my device and later (or directly) open Opera again, it immediately shows the page I visited before I closed it. This means that Opera was still active!? It wasn't listed in running programs...

If I check Taskmanager, it is listed in the Applications tab.

When I open Opera's menu and click on Exit, it really closes.

Does this has something to do with the enable push internet cab??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dutchprop:
A 6 Tab Opera version? The maximum tabs can be edited if you go to the following page:

"opera:config"
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fwt:
Tapping once on the "x" in the upper right corner means "minimize" not close.

And if you have installed "Enable Push Internet.cab" Opera9.exe and operaL.exe are added to the Exclusion-List ... that's why you don't see them.

They have to be running when Push-Internet is enabled ... ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] maverick1804:
some questions

1) how i get this opera bug really fixed? everyone tells something else

2) since i use the Dutty Rom, my battery time is very bad...normal?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BANE:
The change log looks good, I look forward to the release.

Just as a point of note, I didn't have any trouble with the opera freezing problem for ages, but suddenly I've experienced it a few times, I think the first time I encountered it was on WIFI but I have had it since on GPRS. Regardless, I mainly just minimise opera anyway so it's always on when I need it.

BANE
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] markusmuster:
The battery drainage is really the worst thing about all the newer ROMs.

I personally had this issues:

Strange battery drainage - loosing about 20% per day even without using the device

Phone gets really HOT when using GPS and navigation software and after some time (round about 50 minutes) GPS signal drops at all. Soft reset is needed.

My workaround: I flashed v3.3XT and then afterwards I flashed the 1.10.25.25 Radio. Signal strenght is not as good as with 1.14.x but that's ok.

Phone does not gets too hot when using GPS+navi, everything works well.

Battery drainage is ok. (about 1-2% per day without using the device)

Another little thing about GPS: I've to set the registry key to 2500

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SYSTEM/CurrentControlSet/GPS Intermediate Driver/Drivers/GPSOneDevice/PollInterval=2500

Hope this helps everyone with similar problems...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fantasies:
I have tried to do that, but it doesn't work?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] laidbackfreak:
Battery Issues :-

ok somethign wierd is going on here, I've been using this rom for a while now and had what I consider to be normal battery usage(2days give or take) from it until the last couple of days and suddenly my battery life has gone shocking

Yesterday I put it on charge as usual and when I took it off it was showing 100% but dropped down to 30% within a couple of hours, I put in charge overnight and within a couple of hours its dropped from 100% to 83% with almost no useage (no voice\sms) I travel on the underground to work so no data for about an hour.

The last software I put on was HDtweak and changed one registry setting (for backlight when on call) and since then I've had a few issues including the above.

I'm going to monitor it for the next few days in anitcaption of 3.4 and if it carries on I'll start stripping off the software to see if I can isolate what combination of software is causing the issues.

All very strange. :confused:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] wolfmenace:
The same thing happened to me and revert back to Dutty's 3.2

I am not sure when battery started to drop from 100 to 50% in like 1 hour of usage. I think it started when I install all Duttys cabs not sure though

Anyways I am just waiting for the 3.4 .... :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] KukurikU:
not always! you have 2 options and if the ROM has by default end programs by tapping and holding "X" (see pic) than tapping it only means minimize.....:p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Royan:
Opera 6 tabs

Try again and soft reset, that's what worked for me.

It it doesn't work, check this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=511660

brgds

Royan
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] markusmuster:
Same for me too, but read my previous post here

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3783789&postcount=4039

This solved many of my problems...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] liawkc:
I installed Tahoma font in order to display vietnamese characters on my THD. However, it's only on my Manila that it is showing properly. In other places, certain characters don't show but instead is displayed as empty boxes.

Anyone experienced the same problem? Any solution?

This is not a bug with Dutty v3.3 rom as I had this problem when I was on stock rom.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] LeeDroid:
anyone looked into or solved this yet?? :(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ultimatepichu:
Ermm, addition to that, previously I didn't install the ATI driver and things worked perfectly. But yesterday I decided to install the driver, out of no reason, and my phone freeze some time in the night. Can anyone confirm this?

Another issue: I don't know if this is a bug or something, but if you view manila horizontally (with FlipIt for manila.exe enabled), and you go to "photos and videos", den click "Album" at below, choose any one photo. Then when you tap the picture to view the options, the bar is not in the correct direction. Anyone notice this?

Sorry if I did not describe it clearly.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Sideburnt:
I think I mentioned the fix a few pages back, uninstall the Dutty Push internet cab and delete any notifications set up for 23:55.

But you'll encounter the Opera freeze a little more often, personally I decided that a freezing Opera was occasionally more acceptable than a gauranteed freeze at 11:55 every night, as this would screw up my morning alarm.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nearlygod:
Hi,

there is one thing. I tried Battlog now and i like it, because it logs all opening , closing programs , gsm ect.

If i use Opera with a GPRS connection at full reception the battery drain is about 550ah. That gives me a little more than 2 hours of surfing.

But i know, that on earlier roms i could surf a lot longer.

BTW. I deinstalled now all suspious programs (S2U2, MicNeos Taskbar, disabled 3g)

Can anybody have a look if Opera (while loading and setting up a page) is consuming the same amount of energy? Thanks,

nearly
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jammieeeee:
Whenever i load opera with in dutty's v3.3 i get illegal url error.

i have had this with and without push internet.

If i have closed opera with push internet enabled when i go to open it again i get his erro opening in a new tab....

anyone else had this problem?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nearlygod:
GPRS auto-disconnect

I posted that before, but i will try again.

I set the GPRS connection to auto-disconnect in HDTweak. I did this will all Roms and it always worked. Not so on 3.3.

After i installed MicNeos Taskbar it work almost everytime.

Now, because of the battery issue, i deinstalled the taskbar and gprs does never disconnect by itself. Am i the only one?

nearly
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] KChauJen:
Vietname font

I hope the attached file...will solve your problem.

(Sorry, I can't upload to XDA Website, please take it from the link:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TXILUA1M )

FYI.

KCJ
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nearlygod:
Back-Button

Still, tghe backbutton is not working 100% in manila.

eg. going from the program tab to all programs. Backbutton not working

People>All People = Backbutton not working.

Is this fixable?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nearlygod:
Can you tell us which are those minor fixes?

Damn, i asked for this ages ago and many times. I had to set this manually in all Roms - and now as i discovered Sashimi i wanted to do this myself. Bad Luck

nearly
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] supasye:
dutty you need to move onto windows 6.5 and leave this project now..

miris rom is excellent and i use it now.. it just needs the dutty touch.. the little things that make a difference.. im not licking your bum.. im just saying..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] *justintime*:
Whats all your problem with the 6 tab in opera???

I enabled it in "opera:config" with no problems at all.....
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] *justintime*:
What are the benefits from wm6.5 instead of 6.1 then??

When the most functions are in Manilla??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] EXO:
Miri's doesn't have the new touchflo right?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] supasye:
to be honest the only thing for me, is the fact that there is a seperate start menu and programs menu, which was the only thing that annoyed me about these dutty roms.. and i thought the fixes were tacky.. but if you dont want that than i guess its not for you..

also, it seems to take up less ram.. the windows interface is nice looking too not that u see it much if ur using manila, and i love the new start menu..

it just needs a dutty touch..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Digital Outcast:
Dutty needs to do what Dutty wants to do. We are all lucky that he does what he does period, and then shares it with us!

What is your homepage set to in Opera?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] supasye:
u can download it with or without touchflo..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] supasye:
haha ur right, i used the wrong words.. what i mean is 6.5 needs him.. im not trying to offend anyone..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] *justintime*:
Ok.... i didnt like the new start menu either. But i've installed the old menu cab and programs tab. And everything is like normal again.

I havent played with 6.5 yet but as seen from screenshots it looks good.

Ihave bought a HTC and not a HP PDA. So i like the HTC look on my device.

EDIT: ok saw touchflow is also available on 6.5.... But then again I love the Dutty ROMS so 6.5 6.1?? whatever......
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] supasye:
when u say htc look do u mean manila? i use that all the way.. microsoft stadard is pants and boring..

i would say that duttys rom is more complete than miris though.. i flashed to 6.5 expecting lots of new features but its strange... one version they put something in it that makes it look next level.. then they release the updated version and they take that bit out.. and they need to fix up mp3 alarm tones aswel.. really the update is purely visual on windows side.. and i prefer duttys visually (in touchflo) because the notifications and volume control are tacky in 6.5, but i dont know if thats miri or windows.. and im waffling here..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] heartofwolf:
SMS Sending several times problem!!!

I've got a problem, when I send the sms it is delivered several times and I pay for it every time! messages are still in the outbox and every time I open the messaging and outbox all the messages are seding again. I'm so confused:( I didn't have this problem on earlier versions of the rom. Please help!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
Ultimately it's up to Dutty if and when he wants to work with WM 6.5 but in my opinion it's kind of dumb to waste time and resources on an OS that is barely out of beta stage. I had tested a few 6.5 ROMs on my Kaiser and I would not flash one on my HD just yet, it's nowhere as smooth and reliable as Dutty's latest ROMs.

My prediction is that it shouldn't be released before the end of summer which would give us plenty of time to enjoy Dutty's final and best 6.1 as well as give Dutty some time to rest, enjoy the family and the summer.