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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Link278:
I say TOuch pro 2 because it has a keybaord, a bigger screen, dual speakers, dual mics, and im not sure but I think it might have one sensor thing for detecxting something that the diamond doesn't but im not sure if it does or what the sensor thing does lol but yeah I think the touch pro 2 is alot better
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ajbopp:
I say TP2 because of the slightly bigger screen, but it comes down to what is important to you.

I am this close to going with the diamond2 myself because it doesn't have a hardware keyboard, and I'm an oddity in that regard. I think hw keyboards add bulk and cost but not value.

It also seems like the diamond2 will not come to my carrier, and in the end I decided I wanted the larger screen more than I did not want the keyboard. The other stuff (dual speakers, proximity sensor, yada yada) are pretty much useless to me, but I want the screen. I have a vague hope that before I buy the TP 2 I'll find out that Sprint is going to offer a phone with the TP2's screen size and no keyboard. Then I'll have a great phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poppinpengawen:
TP2. the bigger screen, dual speaker, smarttalk, and slide out keyboard make it more attractive than the TD2. sure, the TD2 has a 5 mp camera, but that's just a small thing. (at least it is to me :p)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fone_fanatic:
I'm also opting for the touch pro 2 because i need a keyboard.

As for the dual speakers, where did you guys get that info? From a video i've seen its only one speaker that directs its sound into a channel/tunnel in the back cover.

Also the spec sheet on pdadb.net says its speaker is mono.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] v3lly2:
i'd go with td2. i honestly dont know of a situation where i will really need to have a speaker better than just the regular phone speaker. screen is bigger, but theyre both big compared to regular diamond. i take more pics with my fone so im going with the better camera.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Link278:
but htc's website says that there are 2 speakers

http://www.htc.com/www/product/touchpro2/product-tour.html
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poppinpengawen:
the two speaker technology is called smarttalk I think. It guess it's supposed make the speaker phone volume a lot louder. and the music volume too!!! :) I'm hoping that they'll decide to put a 3.5 mm headphone jack on it!!! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] adeltaY:
Price is an issue of course . . .

TD2 = $550 shipped from Clove

TP2 = $690 shipped from Clove

TP2 is almost $150 more than TD2 . . . not sure if its worth it for a worse camera, keyboard, larger screen, 2 speakers, and conference calling.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Link278:
think about it- better screen, a full tilting qwerty keyboard, and higher quality sound- it seems worth it, 150 more, but they shouldnt have taken off the 5 megapixel camera, but 690 is really high thought but it should be alot cheaper with a new contract I am thinking
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] skagen:
3.5 jack as well.....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pietrucci:
the TP 2 is way too fat!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ajbopp:
If that's your biggest complaint, then it must be a pretty good phone :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] adeltaY:
Lol, I don't care about thickness too much personally. Hey, at least its thinner than the Pantech Matrix Pro! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pietrucci:
I'm afraid I always compare it with women...

I think I'm on the wrong part of the forum, I'm off to the slim part... :D:rolleyes:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Odeon:
I'd say Touch Pro2 was way better than TD2 a couple of weeks ago, until HTCs removed FM-radio from the former :mad:.

Now I look at SEX1, which seems to be the best HTC pnone by now and for months to come.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pietrucci:
women? sex1? am i on the right forum here?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Odeon:
pietrucci

:)

SEX1 stands for Sony-Ericsson [Xperia] X1
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orb3000:
TP2 because it´s physical keyboard!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cocoaju:
IT'S hard to decide... HD... TD2... or TD Pro... Radio or no Radio... Keyboard or not ... Larger screen or not... 3.5mm or USB... I already own an HD and it's brilliant, the TD2 only wins with it's native TFlo version 2 but developers here can sort that out with no problems. I love th bigger screen and the 3.5mm jack (i can listen to music or watch a movie while charging my phone :D) I am wondering if i should go for the TP2, but it's really missing a Radio and a 3.5mm jack (which I will miss when my battery is low)... then again, the TV out is pretty tempting... IT's hard to decide...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] darkhalf520:
common you must be kidding me....the tp2 will have fm radio for sure....its not logical it could miss that :S !
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cocoaju:
The specs on HTC worldwide website doesn't mention anything about a Radio unlike the HD or the TD2. You can go check it out!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] LRC:
on the german side there is FM Radio i think?

http://www.htc.com/de/product/touchpro2/specification.html

Special Features	FM Radio, G-Sensor

gr8tz from germany
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cocoaju:
Yeah... I have been doing some research and there are sites where the specs says it has a radio.

http://www.mobiles.co.uk/htc-touch-pro2.html

Click on specs and you will see it comes with a stereo FM radio.

I have checked on our side of the world too (Hong Kong), it also mentions a radio.

http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/phone/?prod_id=3307 (that is if you can read chinese :p)

So, man! I don't know, HTC may of changed it's specs before launch. The radio on the HD is a bit crappy at times, so maybe they took it out of the TP2.

No idea, I think we really need to wait until more reviews are out before we make any more assumptions.

There is still hope! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] LRC:
yes,

wait and see, have it in any case already reserved :-)

O.T

is anyone who has links with Comparison pic`s with other devices??

please P.M.

mThX
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cocoaju:
Another member sent this link: http://translate.google.com/transla...-touch-pro2.shtml&sl=ru&tl=en&history_state0=

The translation don't make much sense but the pictures are quite good.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] LRC:
thank you, I already know, I meant with T.Pro1

or T.Diam1 or something, I did not iphone

longer there to be present there ...

thank you anyway, let's see have YouTube `s abo

and g ** gle alerts run ...

mThX
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orb3000:
Thanks a lot!

great review and pics
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] monx®:
Ohh... just cant wait it touch down in KL. if i'm not mistaken, its already available in Singapore for S$1,8++ Touch Pro 2 is sexy :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cocoaju:
Agree! It's very sexy indeed. Only need to get a 3.5mm jack converter for the earphones, cos HTC makes really crappy earphones.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Sheldon Cooper:
i'm in dilemma to choose between TP2 and TD2 :( The camera was a quite disappointing and the proc is remained same as TP1 :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ajbopp:
Don't make too much of the camera. a 5 mp camera is likely to produce lower quality photos in a device like this, not higher quality. Personally the camera pleases me.

The firmware for the processor, from I understand, has been significantly upgraded for efficiency, and is expected that this will "feel" much faster for that reason.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] custardo01:
This would decide it for me TD2 117 grams (4ozs) TP2 178 grams (6ozs). Now that is a bulk to carry around. I do have a TD2 and you soon get used to the smaller size and is of course nice and light in the pocket.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Hamburg:
In terms of the 3.5mm jack, here's what I bought for my tilt. For $5, its not bad at all. I think I actually got mine somewhere else for less than that. I bought 3 (one to keep at work on my desk, one to keep in my car (for listening to pandora through my car stereo :) and one for home.)

Will the TP2 really not have an FM radio?? I'll post a separate thread for this question so it will hopefully get an answer.

Also, Id suggest posting the same question (about TP2 vs TD2) in the TD2 section of the forum, since there's probably some bias here. Everyone looking here probably already has their hearts set on the TP2. You'll get a different perspective on the other side.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Kraize:
I bought that for $3. A year and a half ago maybe? But now, it's dying on me :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cocoaju:
I think TP2 and TP2 don't share the same processor, the speed remains the same I agree but I have done some research and TP2 actually has a better and refined CPU (and it's an older version :eek:).

I have read the TP1 has a crippled CPU (Qualcomm MSM 7201A). This is because of some patent problem in the USA. The older version (Qualcomm MSM 7200A) acutally have better video playback and is more refined.

So from what I have read, TP2 has a better CPU then TP1 and THD. :cool:

I think like the biggest problem for some users is the size of the TP2. It is quite heavy and bulky. So you have to consider that too. TD2 shares the same CPU as TP2, so you won't suffer any hardware deficiency there.

I will never consider the TD2, just because I am so used to THD's screen size. I will miss it. ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Link278:
I bought that same thing, but from a different site, and mine is starting to break to, and I didn't even do anything to it! lol I guess they were designed bad, or at least the one I got, so I think the next one I buy will just be the OEM one for the fuze cause that probably is a little more durable
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] skagen:
Do you have a link to, or picture of, this item you speak of?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sancmat:
I have a touch HD and a touch pro 2 and it really does depend on your preferences

Keyboard - the TP2 has a nice keyboard. I have a friend who swore against keboards becuase of the size. After trying my phone he's buying a TP2.

Screen size - your call. there is a .2" difference between my phones and I can see the diff but it's not a big deal. there is a .4" between your phone options but look at it, hold it and decide.

Camera - I was excited about the 5 MP camera in the HD. and I havn't actually done a side by side comparison (I'll try to do that today) but these are phones and don't take great pictures in anything but the best lighting conditions anyways.

3.5 mm jack - For the TP2 - in the US Sprint and Verizon come with jacks, Tmobile comes with an adaptor. OEM does not have a 3.5 jack and I do not know if it comes with an adaptor. I am not sure about ATT.

Weight - The weight is noticable. The touch hd comes in lighter then the TP2 and heavier than the TD2 and I can notice the weight so it will be more defined on the TD2.

Processor - I can't really say on this because both of mine have the 7201A but I think if this is a factor for you your really picking at straws.

In the end all three TP2, HD and TD2 are all great phones.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cincy1020:
Hi:

To any of you who own a Fuze/Touch Pro, and a TP2, is the size difference very noticable in person? I have read the specs of course, but sometimes numbers aren't the best way of judging. I am particularly interested in if the TP2 feels much heavier than the TP.

Thanks!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] econcern:
hi

i have 2 herm 100 from usa at&t with no gsm i flash with dopod flash file

but problem not slove help me how to slove this problem help me

thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] DhaMajoR:
With the benefit of me understanding this thread, i think you mean You have no gsm and you tried solving it... Maybe try to search "gsm fix" on Google and try to find a .CAB

If problem still proceeds, then contact At&t

-Good Luck
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Mugar:
Hey there,

first of all I have to say, this is a great forum. I've read it for a couple of days and now Ive decided to try to upgrade my cellphone to WinMoble 6 or 6.5

_______________

I'm having this Phone

(Vodafone Branding but obviously not locked (I'm using it with a T-Mobile-Card))

When it starts it shows:

The Deviceinformation says

Version

Identidy

I hope its enough. If you need more Information, I'll post it.

_____________

Between all these ROMs on the forum, which one do I have to choose and what have I to do to install it.

Thanks al ot Guys!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] alecoddlyiv:
You have a g3

see here device http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=298613

so

its all good, dive in ;)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] xda2_haseeb:
You can find good ROMs here http://xdaforums.com/subscription.php?do=viewsubscription :D
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Mugar:
I'm allready using your Rom :D
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] xda2_haseeb:
GR8 :D i feel glad to hear tht ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] atoz350:
This works excellent! I'll have to use this in conjunction with CSDEVCTRL to get in call locking though.

Edit: The in-call locking feature has been added! Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] raizaM:
I'm gonna give it a shot. I really needed this.

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] biosxjj:
upupup~downdowndown:):D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lpaso:
could be great ! but even better in english, cause now, I've only squares ^^

can you describes the 3 lines, and the 2 soft buttons ?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] biosxjj:
english.is any body give me a discription.? so I could complie a english version

3 when back light off .it locks

left buttons :yes

right :help->about

OK :yes
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lpaso:
I have :

First line (checkbox) : WM6.5 ... ?

Second line (checkbox) : ?

Third line (checkbox) : ?

Can you tell us what is written on these 3 lines ?

Thank you :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] biosxjj:
1 WM 6.5 use new lockscreen . gray when in wm6.1 or older

2 lockscreen when startup

3 lockscreen when suspend or back light off
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lpaso:
Great !

Works really fine. Great soft ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cruzzmz:
Change it to WWE

Hopefully the TS wont be mad at me

I have change it to display in English

Menu are as mentioned in the thread

cheers
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gbjack:
Not working on Touch HD. It locks the screen using the old screen lock
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] biosxjj:
which version of your windows mobile .

you must check the first checkbox . if you want to use new screen lock with wm 6.5
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] biosxjj:
:oupupup..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gien29:
Hey, I might be a dummy but ... how do I access options?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] biosxjj:
HKLM Software\\Microsoft\\Shell\\LockScreen.

key dword value suspend =1 .lock when suspend

AutoRun =1 lock when startup

if you don't setup frequently you can

convert cab to oem

copy dll to windows

import the reg and reboot ..

it will work also.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Krzysiec:
Would be great if U could add into Your software ... to turn off screen after 5 sec when locked because now screen is on for too long. And battery is drain in this moment until it goes off. ... F.ex. to see the "time" for a sec and than screen goes off ;) Then it would be the best apllication i`ve ever seen ! Simply and usefull ! :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] biosxjj:
The time you can set in setup- system-back light or setup-system-power
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Krzysiec:
but there is no time to set up WHEN LOCKED ... I dont want to turn off screen after 10 sec (because it is minimal in there) because f,ex. when i`m using Opera and read any thread i don`t want to turn off screen in so short time. I just want to off it WHEN LOCKED :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] biosxjj:
you means lock device but screen is on?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Krzysiec:
I mean ... step by step: Turn off device by POWER button. And when i want to check the TIME i turn device on and device goes lock (and that is great) but screen is ON for a long time ... i don`t want to use POWER button to turn it off again. I want to go back to off automaticyally in 5 sec WHEN LOCKED. We are talking all the time in situation WHEN LOCKED
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] k000:
there is a reg entry suggested on post #1 to fix double lock issue
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] schauol1:
Yes, but it doesn't work for everybody.

I have a Touch Diamond and changing this value doesn't do anything. :(

I tried some more reg.values but with no success. This could be even a wm6.5 Bug and might have nothing to do with this application. I'll test that later... (uninstalling the app., then manually locking the Device, wait some Minutes and see what happens...)

I'll put my observations here....

Edit: OK, it won't lock twice if you don't use the app. Looks like it is NOT a wm6.5 Issue...

The Registry Key mentioned in the First post, set to 1, is used so the device locks automatically even you don't have smartlock installed. which is nice but lacks the different options of the application. Like lock on incoming/outgoing call aso... So I'm still hoping for a workaround for this problem...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] biosxjj:
But most people don't find this bug.

Can you find reg Lock In the HKLM\SYSTEM\STATE ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chuggy:
Are you able to get the incall lock to function properly? I seem to have all kinds of issues getting to the answer/ignore screen. My phone locks first, then stalls, then i sometimes get the answer/ignore screen. I'd be curious to see how yours is set up if it is working.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] theraf90:
backlight problem

I've got an Omnia, every time i touch the power button to recall my screen there is no backlight untill I unlock the phone, how do I make the backllight go on as soon as i press the power button?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] scouzer:
The app doesn't do anything on my Vogue running 6.5 :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] biosxjj:
Do you reboot device?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] scouzer:
wow you're fast, was just going to edit my post saying it now works after a reboot lol. thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kwill:
is there anyway to make it lock when the screen is just turned off? my phone never goes into suspend mode and unless i check suspend lock, it doesnt lock.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] atzaus:
does using this make the incall screen look like official 6.5? can someone post a screenshot
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ShadowDrake:
What do you mean?

This program can lock on incoming and outgoing calls, yes... so you'd get the WM 6.5 "locked" in-call screen. It doesn't work well though, the answer/hang up buttons are still single-press to activate so it's easy to mute, or even hang up on the person you're talking to accidentally.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tunx:
Just installed on my ELFIN with WM6.5 ONYX BETA 35 ... just what i was looking for , works like a charm , thanks !
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] schauol1:
I have this Reg.Key and it is set to 0
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] davidblo:
I have this working well on my Verizon Omnia; locks properly when I turn off the phone via the Power On/Off key. But I also use AEButtonPlus to program a hw key to power off the phone, and while it turns off the phone - it does not invoke the Lock screen. I'm looking for a way to either program the left softkey in WM6.5 or invoke a small utility to power off that will fire off the Lock screen - just like pressing the On/Off hw key. Any ideas?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] davidblo:
I guess another approach would be to leverage the hw lock button (long press of the red End key). I don't want to lock on Dim cause I find it annoying to lock wihile I'm say reading a webpage in Opera. BUT if I could have SmartLock suspend 5 seconds after I press the hardware Lock button that would be extremely nice.

As I understand it the "Suspend after lock" option only works if you have the Dim timer activated. How about letting us do "Suspend after lock" without the dim timer for when we press the hardware Lock button???

Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] boggsie:
I think I have come across a conflict with Quick Menu and Smart Lock.

Whenever I change options in Smart Lock (even tried 1.7c) the first time I touch my Start Menu after changing Smart Lock options, Quick Menu will crash/exit.

Best regards,

-boggsie
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ace10134:
Hey here's a good summary, pictures, and features list for your little program:

http://thewingster.com/autolockscreen.aspx

If you'd like, Biosxjj, you can put that link in your first post, cuz I'll update it when you release a newer version. Thanks! (Tell me how you like my website!)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ejoya:
@davidblo

i second this one.. its really helpful

@biosxjj

hi, can you add a force display off without locking the screen?

original option is wait for dim then screen lock then display off(suspend)

my request is wait for dim then force display off.. then wait for user specified time before locking screen so other people who left it for a minute or two can just touch the screen or push a button then the device will wake up without unlocking..

simple version would be to put display off(suspend) after dim timer.. its an extra option so people can choose what they want.

expect donation from me if this is implemented..

xie xie
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rjmjr69:
I believe this also conflcts with the IN CALL SCREEN TWEAK when I answer a call it wont stop blinking the screen off and on so I can unlock it. Once I uninstall the In Call Screen Tweak then this behavior disapears. I also do not get any icon with 7.c I get that silly error message at the end of install saying it was not built for this version of windows.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] biosxjj:
I can't open the link.

My be firewall:(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] biosxjj:
you means just dim screen without locking screen.?(if dispay off the screen you can't wake it up by touching screen) The device wake up when touch screen or press a button?

I think this function has been implemented itself.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] biosxjj:
You should ignore this message.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] biosxjj:
mybe you should try 1.7b

...........

I think it is related to the device drivers.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] biosxjj:
really ? I have no idear to fix this bugs .:D:D:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] biosxjj:
Sorry I don't know what your means
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] biosxjj:
a workaround ..:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ace10134:
Did you try typing it in directly to your address bar? type in: http://thewingster.com/autolockscreen.aspx and see if that gets past your firewall. If not, then something is weird on your comptuer, cuz it's just a normal webpage pretty much. I made it myself and it's worked fine for others.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] biosxjj:
Yes Wonderful webpage. work well.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rodgerdave:
Nice !!! :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ace10134:
Thanks! Do you have any other programs you made that you'd like me to post to the site? (looks like you only have this so far). Once I get more than 1 app from a developer (like you), then I'll create a developer page for you on the site!

Oh and the lock screen program works beautifully on WinMo 6.5!!!!!