yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Wordsmith9091:
Re: The Glow, thanks for the suggestion, but that's a little deeper into the UI than I'm looking to delve. I personally like the way it looks now, with the square around the icon -- but if MobileMatt makes changes in future version of Fuzeberry, I'll use those. You may want to make the suggestion to him directly.

Have you tried out the jbed in version 042509? I think it may work well for you. A functioning Opera Mini is actually included now, and downloads appear to work just fine. If not, let me know. NRGZ28 sent me the package he uses, and I can try that out if this version has issues as well.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Wordsmith9091:
I just tried launching QuickGPS, and it worked fine for me. I'll keep an eye on it -- and if anyone else has toruble, let me know. EDIT: I did notice, however, that if QuickGPS is already launched, hitting the icon won't switch to the app. You need to get it from the task list. Keep in mind, this ROM doesn't automatically close apps after hitting X like the stock one does (though you can change that under settings-system-task manager if you like).

Although, as an aside, if you're on AT&T in the States, I don't see much advantage to using QuickGPS at all. The aGPS works really, really, really well for me on the East Coast -- often locks in under 15 seconds, even if I haven't used the GPS recently (a little slower on cloudy days or indoors, but still very fast).

Scrolling with the wheel - depends on the application. I haven't done anything special to configure it to work in applications that don't natively support it, but there are apps here on xda that can do that for you, if you like it.

Default Start Menu -- Not that I know of, but if you're really sold on the original start menu, a 6.1 ROM may be better for you. I've got one in the works, with similar visual styles to this one, but it'll probably be several days before I release it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Wordsmith9091:
Not sure what caused the Youtube problem, but I'll look into it. The app appears to work well, outside of the lack of thumbnails. Could be that another Youtube version will work better. I'll see what I can do.

For the tabs -- there are several plugins for the new 6.5 Today Screen (Titanium). Try the "Development and Hacking" section, or the "Raphael Software" section. Among the most popular are "Favorite People" and "Titanium Weather."
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] deeznuts:
Downloading now, thanks bro! Ill have all day and night tomorrow to really test out the rom for you. Ill be sure to test all aspects and all apps to provide a full report. Glow is just a suggestion, not a biggie. I still love the fuzeberry setup myself. Thanks for including opera mini, means a lot to me!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] deeznuts:
I agree, quick gps worked just fine on previous release. Default start menu? Thats a thing of the past now, i love this new start menu interface! If just it you could custimize it to move apps around and create folders in it and such, that would make it perfect!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Wordsmith9091:
Use your favorite file manager (total commander is included) and go to \Windows\Start Menu -- you can move things around however you like from there. Eventually, I'll get around to a version that has the start menu organized a little bit better, but that's not too high on my to-do list; would rather worry about functionality and chasing down any last issues.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] avionaru:
Hey guys,

Reflashed again, restarted a few times and now quick gps works fine. However, the circle-touch-scroll is not working at all. Places where it used to work were contacts related areas (contact list, call history) but now it does not react at all :(.

RE. the start menu - deeznuts used the perfect word to describe it: "scattered". I moved the most used icons to the top, but still it's a bit difficult to navigate since options are all over the place. If you encounter a solution, feel free to share (I'll get used to it in a resonable amount of time though).

The rom is acting otherwise ok so far. No major functionality issues, backups were restored fine.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Wordsmith9091:
When you say scrolling used to work -- what ROM were you using? The chef may have incorporated a package I haven't that enables it.

For the Start menu, see the post right above yours (which I was probably typing as you typed yours :) )
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] avionaru:
I said in a previous post that I come from a Hyperdragon ROM. However, I tried the default ROM that came with the phone and it was working there too. They have been removed from this forum due to legal claims from MS (here is the topic if it helps.. If there's software or registry tweak and it's just a matter of enabling the thing, it's ok :D .

l.e.: the keyboard special keys don't work as they should?! FN key goes to Appointments from everywhere, CTRL key goes "Back" and so on so forth...I tried looking for settings, but nothing in the menu seems to match this behavior. Again, a thing I didn't encounter before...why isn't a special key performing the designed function? Isn't this hardcoded in the OS or something?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] malloy0:
Lock / Start Menu Freeze??

Hi,

I have yet to do some searching, but will. Meanwhile, I believe I am experiencing an issue where the Start Menu is NOT accessible AFTER I lock the screen and unlock it. Addtionally, ActiveSync via cable does not allow connection. All is fine after a soft reset, I have seen this happen twice, but have not spent the time to validate this is in fact a bug.

Am writing to see if anyone else can check this out and see if the results are the same.

malloy0
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Wordsmith9091:
Just tested and don't have either issue here. Which build are you using? Did you do a hard reset after flashing?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Wordsmith9091:
Looks like this is actually a service problem with YouTube, not anything wrong with the ROM:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=3691586#post3691586

I've seen it happen before, but for a shorter period, months ago. I'd guess it'll clear up soon.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] deeznuts:
None of those bugs here. Im testing the 4/25/09 no htc keyboard release. I have noticed the scroll wheel does not work on the titanium home. I thought it did on previous release, dont remember.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] deeznuts:
Serenity Wallpaper???

Slight favor, can anyone using a release older than the newest upload the serenity wallpaper saved on the rom under my documents, pictures? I found this online but its not the right size. On the last release i though i put it on my sd card but i guess i forgot. Dont want to flash back just to get the picture. Thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Wordsmith9091:
Re: Your keys issue. It sounds like you have a Touch Pro. This ROM is set up for the Fuze (the At&T variant, which has a different keyboard). Use this cab to change the keyboard setup.

Still looking into the scroll issue, and may have a workaround even if I can't get to the heart of the problem. Can anyone confirm for sure whether it worked on a previous release on my ROM?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] malloy0:
Lock / Start Menu Freeze??

I am having sync and freeze issues and did not want to take the time to investigate why in this 042509 version. I reflashed back to the 042109kb version and all is working well. Who knows why??

Anyway, for now will stay with this 042109kb version and over the next few days to a week while WS works more of his magic with further LouzeBerry updates, I'll reflash at that point. Plus, my wife keeps wondering how I could spend some much time doing this with a cell phone. :)

Thanks for the good ROM and the fast response to issues.

Best,

malloy0
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Wordsmith9091:
Is anyone else having these freezes? I don't have the problem on my phone, but if anyone else does, please let me know so I can look into it. Malloy0 -- Did you do a hard reset after flashing?

Also, when you mention the connection problem -- what exactly is happening? Is the computer failing to recognize it's connected? Or are you having problems using the phone's data connection while hooked up to the computer? I've had the latter happen on and off with various ROMs, including several 6.1 ROMs I used before I started cooking myself. Never figured out why it happened sometimes and not others.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] deeznuts:
Opera Mini No Downloads

Ahh, too good to be true. Opera mini still cannot download files. When u try to download say a cab from xda (which i do all the time), you go to a windows asking save or open, u click save, it asks where, then u get an error pop up saying error fetching file. Ive tried this with numerous cabs on different sites all with the same error so it must be jbed some how. If i click open though it will open IE and i can download from IE with no problems. This isnt so bad but hasnt totally fixed the no downloading problem on opera mini yet. Still testing things but found this so far. Took me a good 30 min to re-arrange the start menu sorting everything.

Do you know of anyway to get a panel for favorite programs? Like on tf3d how theres a tab for favortie programs, anyway to get that on titanium? Trying to right now with chrome editor 1.5. Would make things a lot faster i think.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Wordsmith9091:
I haven't had a problem dowloading from other sites (haven't tried xda yet). Have you had the save working in Opera Mini in other chefs' ROMs? If not, it may just be a limitation of Opera Mini itself. If so, I'll try a version with the jbed NRGZ28 sent me (assuming that one worked properly for you on his ROM).

Edit: Actually, I saw the error you're talking about when doing one d/l just now. It gives me two choices for a path when it's at the top level ("/") -- "Test" And "Storage Card." When I save to a folder on the storage card, it's fine. When I click on the "Test," I get the error you're describing. So yeah, let me know if you've had this working 100 percent right on NRZ's (or anyone else's).
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] deeznuts:
Yes and no. NRZ's rom was the only ive flashed for my fuze that has opera mini working fast and flawless! I can download perefectly everytime picking save, then storage card, jbed will then have a progress bar on the bottom showing the download status and a pop up saying download complete. So yes, jbed can do this and NRZ's should be the golden ticket bro. I also have the choice of test and storage card but always choose storage card, when i choose storage card on your rom is when im getting that error, never tried test before. Not even sure what test is?

On a side note, anyway you could upload that serenity picture in a zip for me to download? I love that as a wallpaper for titanium! Its on your previous release but not this one under my documents/my pictures. Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Wordsmith9091:
When I get home, I'll post that picture.

I'm have no problem with trying out the package from NRZ, but the behavior you're describing with his (that it works, that you get the status bar) is the exact same behavior I'm getting here on mine when I select Storage Card.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] deeznuts:
Full Review

This roms is so close to perfection bro, seriously! By far the best wm 6.5 rom ive flashed for my fuze and ive given them all a fair try. Heres my short bug list after a good 8hrs straight of use:

1. When you get a new text message the scroll wheel doesnt glow around like it always does to notify you. Im not sure if you did this on purpose or not since ive never found a way to turn it off.

2. Jbed download issue, you know already.

3. Dang, is that it? Yeah, thats about it bro!

Suggestions:

1. Cleanup the start menu please. Maybe have just folders and all apps in according folders to make it much cleaner.

2. Add a gps tool like gps test to get a signal. I think the only gps app u have is quick gps.

3. See if u can make the change from portrait to landscape on titanium a little quicker. It is noticably slower than tf3d when u slide out the hardware keyboard and back changing the screen orientation.

Thats really it bro. Got a gps lock using gps test in about 2min but that can be numerous reasons why it took that long. Just wanted to make sure i could get a lock and gps was working which it does. All apps cooked in work 100%. Never any screen freeze issues, no random soft resets, zero stability problems, zero! This version does seem a little faster than your previous release, keep it up bro! All in all, close to perfect. Maybe look into those couple of bugs and add in some apps and its a final release. Oh, if you could add in rhodium email setup too for users instead of using windows live for hotmail accounts. Windows live can be very unpredictable for email. Its much better to set it up manually using rhodium email setup instead of windows live thats cooked in. Just saying from past experiences with windows live, seems fine so far here though.

If you have any questions bro ask and ill test for u. Really cant think of anything else that doesnt work right on this rom, tf3d aspect is fast and flawless and love 6.5! Ive also installed 15+ cabs and modded the hell outa this rom and still all 100% running!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] deeznuts:
Hmm, unless im goin blind and selecting test everytime? Ill test it out more then bro.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] deeznuts:
Nope

Its for sure not working for me bro. Ive selected test and it just says error. I then select storage card as always, then storage card again since it gives u the option to save within a folder in storage card, then right away the little blco box pop up comes up saying in white font "error, error fetching file". Tried again with varies downloads from different sites and always the same. Even tried a soft reset and still, same thing. Only way i can download is pick open, then it opens up IE and i can download that way. I guess it works this way but like i said before, its not working for me as it should or is for you. Yes ive flashed with no sd card or even sim in phone and hard reset after flash and even flash at 100% everytime. Its like a ritual for me, hahaha!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] malloy0:
WS,

No have not done a hard reset after flashing. Never have done this with any ROMs.

As for my connection problem? It is the inability to sync using ActiveSync via a USB cable from my MS2007 Outlook to the Fuze. 042109 works fine, but for all I know for 042509 it could be me not your ROM. ActiveSync is a pain and at times is hard to get to work properly.

As far as freezing, perhaps using the term "freezing" is incorrect. What happens is that I am unable to get the START menu to show up / pop up after pressing the "Windows" button in the upper left. I am able to get or can get to all the Settings, Programs, via my GUI which is PointUI, in the Settings and Applications sections. Sorry if this sounds confusing. Like a lot of problems it is hard to describe in text. it is possible I have a conflict with some other software, although I am not installing any programs that are exotic --all standard stuff.

Sorry to not be more helpful.

malloy0
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Wordsmith9091:
Can someone else test this out for me? I'm not having the problem, but DN is. Not sure what's behind the disparity. Unless, of course ... DN's Fuze is ... possessed ...

mwahahahahahaha.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Wordsmith9091:
It's always, always a good idea to do a hard reset after flashing. Skipping it can often lead to unexpected behavior, though I don't know if that has anything to do with your problem. I always do mine immediately after the flash (I hold down the power button and the scroll button on that first boot after the flash, and it brings up the HR screen. Some people prefer to wait until the stylus calibration screen, though I don't really think it makes a difference.

For the freezes -- are you sure it's not PointUI itself that could be messing with it? Absolutely no software is officially made to run properly on 6.5, and incompatibilities are definitely possible -- with all it does to the interface, it seems ripe for hiccups. Have you tried it with PointUI disabled? Or have you tried PointUI with success on earlier versions and/or other 6.5 ROMs?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] deeznuts:
Yep, windows live is bunk! Trying to use my hotmail account i cant send emails but only receive. When i try to send a simple email i get an error saying message cannot be sent. I setup my hotmail email account like any email account. Yahoo works fine for me, just windows live screws it up. Getting rhodium email setup cooked in would be perfect if u could. Im gonna look for the cab right now so i can setup my hotmail account manually, thats the only way i can get it to work 100% on any rom! Sucks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] deeznuts:
Email Setup Wizard???

Anyone have a cab for the rhodium email setup wizard? Cant find that ish anywhere. Thats the only program I know of that will let me manually setup my hotmail email account. When i set it up now it always uses windows live and ghetto windows live never lets me send out emails, only recieve! Thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Wordsmith9091:
Some answers to DN's suggestions/reports:

Heres my short bug list after a good 8hrs straight of use:

1. When you get a new text message the scroll wheel doesnt glow around like it always does to notify you.

Turning it on under Settings-Sounds & Notifications doesn't do it for you?

2. Jbed download issue, you know already.

As you know, still investigating, as I'm not having the problem. Will try a build with NRZ's package soon.

1. Cleanup the start menu please. Maybe have just folders and all apps in according folders to make it much cleaner.

On the to-do list, just not all that high up. Want to get everything else working super-well first.

2. Add a gps tool like gps test to get a signal. I think the only gps app u have is quick gps.

Don't see much need for one -- I'm getting super-fast locks in Google Maps with just aGPS turned on. Using QuickGPS, in my not-so-scientific observations, actually seems to slow things down (maybe the data it gets isn't as useful as the aGPS data and it interferes? haven't looked very closely at it). Also trying to avoid adding many more apps, as the ROM size is right up on the edge of the maximum allowed (although I should be able to shave off a few megs with the next version). But you can always set up User Customization to install one of those tools after your flash.

3. See if u can make the change from portrait to landscape on titanium a little quicker.

Sorry, that's for the MS folks, not for me -- unless there are some super-secret registry tweaks I don't know about. Titanium has gone from sluggish to less-sluggish over the course of 6.5 development. Hopefully it'll be zippy by final release.

Windows live can be very unpredictable for email. Its much better to set it up manually using rhodium email setup instead of windows live thats cooked in.

If I can find a good OEM package for it, I'll try it out.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Wordsmith9091:
Here's the Serenity wallpaper DN has been asking for
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] deeznuts:
Sounds good. Maybe take out windows live, msn money, and msn weather unless u use those. People can install those if they want to use them and youll save some space. I have a wait cursor ill upload later to see if u can convert it to work on wm 6.5. The default wait cursor makes me feel like im at a circus, haha. Talk to NRGZ28 about the rhodium email setup, he always uses it in his roms. Great setup.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] avionaru:
Hey,

I saw someone noticed some freezes. If it should count, I had about 5 freezes so far since I installed this rom. One is caused by a game and I am pretty sure it's the game's fault. The others were randomly encountered during heavy usage of the device (playing with all the menus, multimedia stuff etc), but I can't pinpoint the issue or reproduce it in controlled conditions.

RE: the GPS. I use IGO and switched from the other ROM because the GPS was losing connection every few seconds. I have yet to determine if it's the software's fault or my phone's receiver is broke. If anyone has encountered this, please let me know. I am also looking for a GPS app. that can verify the connection to check what I described above.

As some other minor stuff:

When I use the "list" today screen (not the Touch3D one, the other one with a few shortcuts in a scrollable list), I find it difficult to scroll "outside" the screen. For example I have 10 things displayed in that Today list, and if I am on the "pictures" tab and want to go with the finger all the way down, I cannot do it. Once I am at the edge of the screen, the list does not go automatically further :(.

Also, another minor but frustrating thing is that in many option/settings screens I don't have the "back" button, only the "ok" or "X" ones. And when I finish settings up the stuff and click them, it takes me back to Today instead of the start menu (or generally the previous menu) and I have to go again to "Start", pick something from the scattered screen and start to configure.

Also, why so many weather-related stuff? I noticed MSN Weather or something, another shortcut related to AccuWeather, I have weather on the Today tabs....

sorry for the long post :D

PS 1: malloy0 - try going to the USB connection settings and uncheck the" Enable fast data sync", I remember it is enabled by default and it didn't work for me either until I unchecked that. Bug noticed: in touchflo 3D, if you go to the settings tab in today screen and press the bottom left "All settings" shortcut it actually takes me to Connection Settings screen, which is not ok.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Wordsmith9091:
If anyone else has had trouble with Windows Live for e-mail (it worked fine for me when I tested it, but DM reported trouble), try this to set it up as a regular Pop3 account. DM confirmed for me it's working for him:

Go to create a new account. Lie about what the e-mail address is at the beginning. Don't tell it that it's a hotmail account, or it will autostart windows live for the setup.

Do everything else right. Tell it pop3.live.com and smtp.live.com. for the servers. Put in your username and password normally.

Then, after the account is set up, edit the account settings to make the e-mail address right.

I haven't tried this myself, but it should work.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] deeznuts:
Not sure what everyone's screen freezes are all about, Ive had 5 apps running and program memory up in the 75% area all running super fast and zero freezes. For your scrolling issue well thats wm 6.5 titanium bro, not much u can do about that but maybe re-organize the panels around. For the start menu issue, i agree. Its so annoying to choose a setting then bam, ur back to the home screen and gotta go through all the motions again to change another setting. Again, this is the new start menu, dont think the chef can do much if any about that. Maybe MS will fix it, who knows? I also agree, really no need for so many weather apps. All were missing is the doppler satelite, haha. All i see we need is titanium weather and weather master for tf3d weather and both can be installed via cab since theyre upgrade so often. In reality no weather apps "need" to be cooked in. Again, this is the chefs choice but wide range users i dont see needing so many weather apps. Gps i hardly use but when tested my lock stayed on with gps test for a good 15min before i closed the app.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Wordsmith9091:
Thanks for the suggestions, but I'd prefer to keep those in. As far as the wait cursor goes, it's not something I personally have any desire to change, but feel free to share your version here with anyone who may want to use it. I'll PM NRGZ28 and see if he can help out with that Rhodium e-mail, although as you saw in the last post, you can still set up Hotmail without it.