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[Shift General] saiweb:
Yes, exactly. They both are sharing COM8. But somehow the Bluetooth Virtual COM port is not getting enabled on WM side. There are 3 ports that can be programmed COM4 - GPS, COM5- I am not sure which device is using it, I am guessing WiFi and COM8 - USB/BT sharing. I am trying to find out the device hardware address, so that I could enable all the missing 3 (Wifi, BT, and SD). We have the devices and the registry settings. Even if something is missing we copy the registry settings for these, because BT is microsoft stack through out HTC devices, WiFi is standard across almost all the devices and SD is Microsoft specified settings I have seen and compared with the actual HTC devices. I have Blue Angel, Wizard, Hermes, Tilt, Diamond, Advantage x7501 and Fuze apart from Shift. I compared almost every device setting and found they are almost same. I moved most of the registry settings except the HKLM\Software\OEM\Bluetooth\BTAdress. I think this is device specific. This key is visible only in Diamond and Fuze, so I think it is unncessary. Actually I tried both addresses and as soon as I reset WM, it is freezing and I had to remove the battery and restart and remove the key. I am looking at options that are available to sniff out Device Address programmatically.

As of now, I am so busy at work yesterday and today. I am planning to spend working on BT again tomorrow. Thanks for understanding

--Ram--
[Shift General] massariol14@yahoo.it:
Thankyou so much for your great work Saiweb!

We are all so excited for your news!

is there something I can do to speed up your investigations?

I'm not an expert but maybe some repeating and stressing action you use to find this "divine" adress I could also do with some indications!

Let me know all i can do to help you!
[Shift General] saiweb:
Oh sure, I will if I get cornered. Thanks for lending your hand.

I have found COM5 would get deactivated, if WiFi is turned on the Vista side. That means

COM 4 - GPS

COM 5 - WiFi

COM 8 - BT and USB

Thanks

--Ram--
[Shift General] shawankit:
Thread :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=480696

I am not sure , but have you guys ever read this post and did any one find the tools mentioned here and the author's quote on SD was

"QXdmSDlog.exe - seems to be able to write to SD ! (I coudn;t get it to work yet)

"
[Shift General] massariol14@yahoo.it:
I've also find this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=2511016

in which you could find a bttest.exe.

I run it with bt enable in vista, while usbtool were disable, and it worked using com8 as Saiweb said.

maybe you could find it useful!
[Shift General] shawankit:
yep, I tried that earlier for BT , but for SD the "QXdmSDlog.exe " is required , which is not on the (HTC TEST) zip on the above thread ...can any one find this "QXdmSDlog.exe " and dump /attach it here
[Shift General] saiweb:
I am thinking that it could not log to SD because the SD Card is not active on Windows Mobile side. I think once we enable it, it could write it. I may be wrong too, and that program might enable it, who knows.

Update regarding BT:

Yes, I think I know the reason why the BT hardware can't be activated. Shift is missing the HCI Layer completely. So you can't talk to BT, and WiFi and it could be the same reason for SD also.

I compared the device architecture in respect to BT with Tilt, Fuze and Diamond and I found Shift is missing BTHCI.dll and the scripts that it would need to run it. The I went through the Windows CE documentation and BT part talks to HCI Transport Layer, which in turn talks to Serial Port. The drivers for HCI are completely missing so the registry settings and in the case of Serial Port it is partial, just for USB (ActiveSync) and GPS.

My eyes are so tiring and they need rest. I will try to extract these drivers from Fuze/Diamond sometime after I am done with my day job tomorrow and cook a newer ROM for shift using those and see what happens. Keep watching.

--Ram--
[Shift General] PlayStation:
Thanks for the updates Ram. That sounds FANTASTIC. Once you know the disease its much easier to get the cure. And looks like you have perfectly identified the missing link. Thank you so much. Certainly your updates will direct the other rom cookers towards a possible right direction. I am so very proud of you guys. :D
[Shift General] FOOFTR:
Don't worry man, we ARE watching...100's of us I'm sure. Best of luck...:)
[Shift General] kakemann:
Yup!

We are watching...

This is very exciting!

Thanks a lot Ram
[Shift General] lucid:
I hate to admit I must second that opinion of PLayStation.

In the old days, at our commodore 64's there were the "knowing" and the "lamers".

The "knowing" always helped eachother phreak, crack, and hack, and once in a while this precious knowledge (at least in those times it was PRECIOUS) was tought to the lamers.

Back then, there were people trying to keep everything for themselves, not even sharing amongst fellow hackers.

What "real information" has come from these (chinese) sources that has helped XDA-devs to make progress ?

Has the code posted any significance ? Is that DLL worth something ?

BTW : many forget to credit OliPro for contributing to SPL

P.S. I : I must admit, after second thoughts, I remember people trying to keep everything for themselves in

order to be able to take the credit for their genuine hard work when released to public

This is of course a very good reason to work alone and not share (yet) Let's hope the rumours are true

and that in time he will release so we can credit him.

Putting the video on YouTube remains a cruelty. ;-P

P.S. II - A german (gadget-geek) director of a transport company overhearing talks about this rumor commented that he would order dozens of Shift's when SD access is working, regardless of BT and Wifi. Guy went on to rant and rave about HTC not being sane. It's always cool to hear "Scheisse" the way it's supposed be pronounced.
[Shift General] PlayStation:
I am amused that my good friend Lucid is seconding the opinion after I quickly retracted it and ate back my words. I was reminded that you cannot afford to eat for dinner the chicken that lays the golden eggs!

We all remember how excited we were with the initial rom/radio that could make a call even without the mike working at all. We still flashed that rom very well knowing that we could not communicate. Does anybody else get excited when reading Unboxing Articles or even perusing the digital User Manual before the real gadget becomes publicly available......

Just imagine being able to use BT and SD card as you wait for the full and final goodies by the name of Wi-fi and full screen to be cooked! Its under those circumstances that I posted my opinion which I then quickly withdrew.

I think the greatest contribution the Chinese guy has made so far is to confirm that SD and BT can be done. We had serious doubts about that. But since it has been done it can be done by someone else. What is that they say about re-inventing the wheel? I forget. :cool:
[Shift General] alex_time:
Any news since yesterday?
[Shift General] unlocksmith:
but didnt this guy only show SD working and not BT??

or is it just me? lol
[Shift General] Killbillprime:
lol duddddddddddde just getting the sd working will be a hell of a milestone to reach.........
[Shift General] unapproachable2kx:
I am trying hard to contact him again but still nothing,no email reply,contact never online..
[Shift General] Caid444:
wow

You know, I gotta say. I read the entire thread from start to finish, from 2:00 till 3:00 am. I used to be excited about getting the shift, but I feel that most of the excitement has been greatly overthrown by the straight up adrenaline rush of this thread alone.

I'm not actually sure that I'll be using my shift when I get it. I might just spend all my time listening to this group talk about the progress being made, or the communication between everyone with suggestions and whatnot. Holy **** is all I have to say ;)

Great Thread! Like a good novel, I feel I have come to know many of you on here, just by reading your dialogue.

On a little side note, I noticed that my Touch HD won't send bluetooth while my wifi is enabled. I don't know if that has anything to do with which com port(s) they use, but something to consider, while sorting out this mess.

Ram, you're awesome, by the way. I would have certainly thrown my laptop through my screen long before enduring the torture you've been though. You're really patient.

I'll be back to read and post in no time.

Thanks again to all for the good read.

Good hope to BT/SD/wifi/FS (fullscreen) on the shift.

Caid.

444
[Shift General] alex_time:
Saiweb, do you have any news for us? Have you done some more tests?
[Shift General] saiweb:
yes. i progressed a little last week. Got tied up at daytime work. I will probably would get sometime after thursday again for a good number of days to focus.

--Ram--
[Shift General] alex_time:
This is taking lots of your time for us all, we appreciate that.

Let us know if there are some interesting news.
[Shift General] Bradaland:
Keep up the good work Ram!

Good Luck! We are rooting for you!
[Shift General] saiweb:
It seems the Address of the Storage Card is mapped to "Storage Card" on HTC Devices and any internal storage like Advantage, Diamond use mapped internal storage address to "My Storage". And it is likely that the Bluetooth is listening on port BT mapped to COM8. I could not make any progress on this. How to activate "Storage Card" and BT is still a puzzle for now. Actually what exactly is stalling them to respond on Windows Mobile is a puzzle. I checked the entire registry on Windows Vista and Windows Mobile to see anything is blocking also I checked the hidden files and system files on Windows Vista that might contain any information about locking them down. No visible hope until now. I will keep on searching and update you.

--Ram--
[Shift General] Bradaland:
Thanks for all your work!

Thanks for the update Ram! I wish I new more about this to offer any real advice, but I am studying. I like figuring things out, and fortunately, I have the time to dedicate to things like this, I just need to absorb things a bit more.

(If you can point me in any direction, I am a quick study and a good problem solver)

Good luck with your progress!
[Shift General] apoparis:
Maybe it's time for some "chinese" help. Just a few directions at least..
[Shift General] PlayStation:
Or perhaps its time to declare this thread officially closed. Time to realize this has been no more than wild goose chase.

>>>>>>>> SORRY GUYS JUST WANTED TO KEEP THIS THREAD ALIVE >>>>>> ;)
[Shift General] hdbueller:
Hey,way to go there mister "positive thinker".......it might do you well to remember how long it took us to get the phone working! That was a long time in coming too!!

Later

(Sorry.....replied before my morning coffee....LOL)
[Shift General] FOOFTR:
So we will assume that if the SD card becomes functional, and BT, that out of repsect for your chosen stance you will not download the new ROM?
[Shift General] Rabia:
guys i got my shift on my Bday last september, from a phone functionality its still very useless since no BT and i remember somewhere around xmass i was giving up even on phone functionality when suddenly it was solved, that tought me a lesson never to assume and now i do have a hope, we are not dedicated employees in xda forum unfortunatly so every person with spare time to give is very much appreciated, so keep it up and lets not give up :)
[Shift General] sudiptasingh:
Dear Ram,

I know you went through a lot of steps and interactions to get where you are now. One can glean it going through this thread - can I propose that you please take a little time to summarize and write down your observations thus far - put in a sticky in this forum - and suggest lines of inquiry for others to pursue.

I am confident that as a team - we can crack this. I am willing to help in whatever way I can.

regards

Sudipta
[Shift General] kakemann:
Me too!

My vacation is soon starting - and I'm willing to contribute in any way possible.
[Shift General] lucid:
We should ask Steve Ballmer to dump HIS rom. I'm sure that his HTC Shift that he got almost a year before anyone else, has SD Access.

Calling Steve Ballmer to dump his ROM. Developers, Developers, Developers !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIaH0RuWG7M
[Shift General] unlocksmith:
what is upsetting is why the guys at HTC just dont release a ROM with everything working. they didn't have to put the blocks.

Why not us guys try some kind of petition instead of waiting for a guy in china to share a secret??

im ready to sign one. anyone else?

P.S. Ballmer in that video says you can use bluetooth so its a little like misrepresentation as I saw that video and bought one.. :D
[Shift General] unapproachable2kx:
As Caid444 said: On a little side note, I noticed that my Touch HD won't send bluetooth while my wifi is enabled. I don't know if that has anything to do with which com port(s) they use, but something to consider, while sorting out this mess.

I also notice while WM is activesyncing Usb plug is disabled!

will investigate furter..
[Shift General] Topogigi:
It seems to me that someone had success in jailbreaking the whole thing:

"We identify the machine to break the whole

Taobao just and that people contacted, he said that all the functions shift break, BT, WIFI, GPS will get, can be called Bluetooth headset. However, the price of the machine is 5500. Goods after payment to verify. Rom now to encryption, we think it is true

http://74.125.39.132/translate_c?hl...gle.it&usg=ALkJrhgCjgIEpHWcsp0S0w8LgqpHsqqEuw

At the same time, he said do not believe you can go to physical stores, he addresses in Shenzhen, Shenzhen, not because I did not ask him specific address, hope that in Shenzhen, his friends, to see his physical store, is not he said. There are wide of the machine to break. He said customers can now see, but the machine does not sell, because there is no encryption to complete rom."

(translated from chinese with the help of google translator)

they're selling jailbroken shifts with all enabled (WIFI BT PHONE GPS) for 5000yen...
[Shift General] Killbillprime:
question is - is that on the WM side? if yes,

then i guess the next thing will be for some to buy this dump the rom and get a refund :)
[Shift General] Topogigi:
The rom is encrypted so you cannot get a dump. Yes, it's on the WM side. You can call and receive calls via BT headset (so they advertise)...

"I went to Shenzhen Wah Keung yesterday, they asked for 5200 yen.

They said the mobile can be used. And they can demo the function of the mobile before paid."

(Quote from the chinese forum)
[Shift General] Bradaland:
I can't find the thread from the link above, but I have some questions before I spend any money on this (if anyone knows):

1) Wouldn't the unit be in Chinese (not English)?

2) Would they sell a ROM to all the current Shift owners (no one is going to throw away thier current shift just to get another shift), plus good business says, selling to current shift owners is easier than trying to find new shift customers.

3) Can an 'encrypted' ROM be 'decrypted' (hence the invention of the word "decrypted"...of course not easily, but is it possible by Thaihugo or Cmonex)

4) What is the average cost of this in USD? (I might be interested in acquiring one for research)

5) Is there an online link to the exact thread conversation of them talking about the features? (the link is to the table of threads and from some general searching some of the other threads say that BT is impossible, so why wouldn't the other members of that forum be more active about the "good news"

If its for real, I can consider buying one and passing it off to the Develoeprs to look at, but I would want some concrete proof first. (Concrete enough that the developers here fall over backwards in a euphoric relief)
[Shift General] unapproachable2kx:
if it is true these people really suck,can I say it?!

I said.

At first this seems to be true as Guandong place is where that chinese guy (which never sent me his patch) is located..maybe he is flashing roms and receive money from that,

that's the better or maybe it is nothing only scam.

by the way the link to that thread english translated

http://74.125.43.132/translate_c?hl...gle.it&usg=ALkJrhgplycplevKZMazrym1eL8BcnMcPA
[Shift General] Bradaland:
That thread did the trick.

OK, so it looks like about $650 USD. But still, no clue if this is legitimate or not. If anyone speaks Chinese out there can contact these folks to ask some questions, let's see if they will sell ROM flashing (as I don't need a Chinese Shift in Chinese just yet)

A working Video would be great!

I don't mind buying the ROM, as long as it can be used in English and didn't interfere with adding new programs and I could still re-flash it back if I test other Roms.

Can anyone try to contact these guys in their native language? (I only speak English)
[Shift General] hdbueller:
If it could be verified and is either in english or could be made to be in english, I will buy it! I would have to have it VERIFIED by a DEPENDABLE source first tho. Someone who could be trusted to handle the transaction too.....Later
[Shift General] thaihugo:
It just say it can make phone calls. Beware of scams here. I'm still on the fence deciding if all this is real or not.
[Shift General] shawankit:
I believe it partly but not the encryption part

I believe that chineese guy might have found the solution for bt and sd.

but I do no believe that the rom is encrypted...i think its just a plot to sell ...to give false impression that one person cannot dump it

rom if exists like the chineese guy states ,if available can easily be dumped...and shared...(encryption is a hoax)
[Shift General] hdbueller:
Hell,we can make phone calls already.....LOL If it is not a scam, it would need the bt/sd/etc working on the WM side for me to be interested....and again, verification of it working would be a must!! As Shawankit says, dumping the rom should be possible..... Later.

Hell, I would even sell my Flybook then......... ;)
[Shift General] Bradaland:
So is there anyone "local" to the area that can visit this device in person to witness the "truth" (or "untruth's")?
[Shift General] michael85:
Any news? :confused:
[Shift General] alex_time:
Are you still hoping?!?! Maybe it will be done in the future, but nobody know how far this future is...
[Shift General] michael85:
Yeah I'm still hoping.. I was one of the first ppl in Europe with a Shift and waited for more then a year till the phone part was working...

Unfortunately there are no other devices with WM and Vista, Win XP or Win 7 else I would buy that other one..
[Shift General] Killbillprime:
You and the both mate!
[Shift General] FOOFTR:
There's a few of us...one year of solid use and this thing still rules.
[Shift General] hdbueller:
If you don't need the Winmo part, The Flybook rocks!! W7 and a 3G GSM phone with bluetooth.....but....it costs like $2700 USD......on sale,that is ;)

I got mine for way less tho...... Gotta love fleabay....LOL

I am still holding out hope for the Shift yet......Later
[Shift General] michael85:
Yeah but I need the WM part.. But on the other side, I also have a Diamond with the same push mail account.

Ahh well, I just wait another year and see if there is getting some progress :(
[Shift General] apoparis:
Saiweb, did you stop searching ?
[Shift General] lucid:
Silence rules the planet, especially in China.

My hopes are that the rumours about the guy from CHina wanting to develop a ROM with Full Screen, WiFi,BT,SD enabled are true. THat's why it is taking so long. Longer than GSM calling ? Can't remember. But hey Chinese guy, goodluck !@
[Shift General] Bradaland:
If anyone can make contact with the seller and do a proper English translation of the Forum post to get actual details, I would consider getting a 2nd one so that it can be used for testing.

If anyone can make contact with the seller and broker the deal and get solid details, contact me. (I'm not even slightly interested in the challenges of attempting to contact them since I speak absolutely no Chinese)
[Shift General] mosobhy:
I will fly to china next week,if you have his Address or telephone number please give it to me.

I can contact with him.

no problem I can pay him and take copy from this software.

Thank you
[Shift General] saiweb:
I am still in travel. I will be back in a week home. Sorry this travel is never expected.

thanks for understanding

Ram
[Shift General] Caid444:
Are you guys talking about McNeo? I live in China, and I hear a lot about the Chinese roms and such. I'll keep my ears open as to how much progress there is. I can speak Chinese with medium fluency, but I have no idea who this person is that you're referencing. "That Chinese guy" sums up about 2/3 of China. More details perhaps?

Caid.
[Shift General] shawankit:
headset (wired) works on WM6 for factory ROM for the X9501 model of shift

It looks like the headset (wired) works on WM6 for factory ROM for the X9501 model of shift for both mic and head set

check thread :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=3970156#post3970156
[Shift General] PlayStation:
I recall its a result of Zhariak's Shift that the developers here were able to get mic working on winmo. But that did not extend to wired headset. I have read the thread linked too and I dont see any mention of wired headset. Or am I missing something?????:confused:
[Shift General] hdbueller:
The wired headset mic on mine worked with the stock rom too as tested by Cmonex and myself, but NOT with the phone.....

Later
[Shift General] shawankit:
do we have any chineese speaking person in xda who can contact "QQ group" and check if these guys are ready to share the sd ,bt unlock for wm6 ...

if they want payment to disclose the code and dll to unlock then I am ready to pay. I have been tried of waiting :( :( :(
[Shift General] unapproachable2kx:
There is no QQ Group!!!

QQ is a ''Live messenger'' popular in over chinese country.

I already spoke with the author of the video time ago,then he not mailed me any patches nor it replayed to any of my mails and blocked me at his QQ contact.

I am constantly monitoring chineses forums and others about any patch,but no one has it no one knows how to and where find it.

Xda-Developers is the most advanced about this patch,here we at least have try..

I am considering this video a cruel fake sorry.
[Shift General] lucid:
Is there anyone who can do a frame by frame analysis of that video ? I got the source of that video downloaded on my pc. I can see no glitches...

But..It must be a fake. There would have been more rumors and leaked ROM's containing the "hack" by now.

Remember the guy who posted a TomTom video, we never heared from him again either.... All BS.

I must say, there are good at something, as I still haven't succeeded in creating

a network folder mapped to my SD, I just can't get it to work!
[Shift General] unapproachable2kx:
the video is perfect i see no glitches too but in fact after all this time I don't know what to think if not a fake
[Shift General] saiweb:
Hi all

I am still in a travel engagement. so could not work on it after that. But until now whatever I have seen something is overriding COM8. I can read and write to COM8 but not use it for Bluetooth. The bluetooth diagnostics (HTC Tool is recognizing the port, but I am not sure how to use it). The same is true for Wifi (COM5). If any senior XDA hacker could use this and hack it, that would be great. Once I get some freetime from this engagement I will work on it, but not sure whether this would move a bit further or not.

I tried to contact that original Chinese claimer, but no response.

--Thanks--

Ram