yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Great to hear that it worked for you. Enjoy your phone.

@ALL: Guys, build 23003 is running very smoothly on my phone. Expect a new ROM soon, and thanks for besfen's kitchen, it will be for both old and new gene.

This new series is a carry over of the work done in 218xx series so all the changes done in WM 6.5 in 21820, the last build of the series, is present in it. I noticed two more changes.

1. When creating a new contact we are getting new options to create a contact or messaging group.

2. Although this ROM eats RAM, it eats less than 21810 and the RAM is returned after the phone is is hibernate mode for 30+ minutes. My GWES.exe was at 7 MB today but after half an hour it reduced to 4 MB :D Thats a huge change guys, i think we have been heard by Microsoft, so keep your fingers crossed, 6.5 is gonna be loads better when it comes out :)

I am currently out of Delhi so cant post the rom right now, but its ready so i will post as soon as i return, so keep checking this thread :)
[P3400 ROM Development] rakesh_4utoo:
Best News of the day,:)

Gene Original camera is there?
[P3400 ROM Development] ankit360:
from ppcgeek

i don't know if i get you wrong, but i don't get GWES problem that much by GWES.exe usage don't go above 8mb at 21234 or any other build, but let me tell u that some software cause issue in GEWS.exe

eg. in past i install Touch Commander i love Touch Task-manager in it ,its more finger friendly then htc task manger but GEWS.exe goes high upto 14mb :eek: after removal of Touch Commander GWES.exe memory usage stay below 8mb
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
@rakesh: Yes its there :)

@Ankit: Dont know buddy, with me, i use resco explorer and the usual windows mobile app most of the time, with occasional use of python interpretor for windows mobile. But for me, even when the phone was on standby the usage use to go to 7-8 MB. And if i use Opera, it use to close itself time to time. And this problem was more if i used the lock screen. WIth lockscreen used once, the memory goes down by 2 MB(thats normal as the lockscreen graphics, cpr etc is loaded into mem) but it use to go to 12-14 MB even if i just leave it for the day in hibernate mode.

In this 23003 build i dont have this issue. It goes upto 7-8 but returns automatically after a short while and remains at a comfortable 5-5.5 MB with lockscreen loaded. :)
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Oops, double post, sorry :)
[P3400 ROM Development] charge1313:
I'm pretty sure 21815 had the messaging group feature too.

Have you noticed if any more controls been made finger friendly?
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Well, then i didn't noticed it before :) But its fun, creating text message and email groups is highly convenient then adding contacts one by one, specially if you email/text some of your contacts regularly in bunch.

Nah, i dont think there is any changes to controls, i think controls are exactly like 21820.
[P3400 ROM Development] BesFen:
How about the battery icon? on mine, it's closer to htc taskmanager icon than to speaker icon. How to move it?

Thanks.
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
On mine, its ok. I guess you used one of the early SYS. There has been many fixed versions available after that.

And ya, if you build using a fixed version, dont forget to replace the compime.dll from 21728, or 21234 RTM build. compime.dll in 2300x series is not working with java apps, you cant input passwords.
[P3400 ROM Development] dheerajk27:
Hi Sumit

Hoping that you will also post your XIP and SYS for build 23003. :)

I have been using the 21815 build now for more than 2 weeks, so thought of giving the feedback. Had used the xip provided by you to cook the same. Really impressed with the performance. Apart from the good battery life, I have found the same as stable as WM 6.1 builds (with 5 MB PP size) and having no hanging issues at all. I have not encountered any noticable memory leaks even after without resets for more than a day, but yes I have disabled Titanium and using camera loader by @helgee. Instead of titanium, I am using SPB MS 3. Even when the SPB MS is heavy (around 5 to 6 MB in size), along with S2U2 and HS++ I am getting around 23.5 MB at a start up, which after long hours of usage (GPRS, Music, Game, calls etc.), it is staying stable at around 19.5 MB, which I think is really remarkable. The "gwes.exe", which you are mentioning is constantly taking around 5 MB, after hours of usage. Again, thought of just giving a feedback.

EDIT: Forgot to add the fact that I think, even the speed of OS is as good as those WM 6.1 builds. Moreover, since WkTASK is now fully workable with WM 6.5 (with tweaks), I think, this WM 6.5 build (and may be the future builds as well) is complete in its sense for our Gene devices.
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Hey Dheeraj,

Thanks a lot for the feedback. Actually, the problem i think starts when you use the lockscreen and titanium. Specially the lockscreen, when used causes an initial loss of 2-2.5 MB RAM and then it continues on. Since lockscreen is hosted under GWES, it gets all the blame. Apart from this issue, 6.5 is quiet stable now and with the new 2300x branch, more changes will come to our way, since DA_G has reported that many changes from other unstable branches like 219xx will be backported to this branch when they are stable. So expect more goodness for our devices in future :)
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
READ IT CLEARLY GUYS

RUU and SDCard Methods themselves have no advantage or disadvantages. There are two methods using which roms are cooked, which use different compression methods. These two compression methods are XPR and LZX. WHen LZX compression is used, the ROM has to be upgraded using SD Card method while XPR compression based ROMs can be flashed using RUU.

Please dont ask this question again and again guys! It annoys a little :o
[P3400 ROM Development] ankit360:
Yep i work on this

and come to same conclusion

sumit don't work on this 21501 build new build come on tomorrow or day after tomorrow
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Hey Ankit buddy, try to find out where can we get this version of cecompr.dll for our xip which supports LZX compression. If we can get it, we will be able to use it in our ROMs also. It makes quiet big difference in size of ROM and RAM plus most of the times, the ROM can be flashed using RUU too. :)
[P3400 ROM Development] mehra:
no battery status icon

hi krazy and ankit bhai. i could not find a battery icon in today screen. plz help. otherwise rom is worth HATS OFF.:)
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Are Bhai thodi peeche ki posts padh lo, maine pehle hi explain kiya hai kisi ko :)

(English : Brother read some previous posts, i have already explained it to somebody :) )

:D :D
[P3400 ROM Development] mehra:
sorry bro. got it now.;)
[P3400 ROM Development] rakesh_4utoo:
@krazy:

Flashed your new rom,everything is perfect.(Speed,animation,battery)

but WkTaskL 1.202 is missing,anyways not a big problem(have wktask.cab)

anyways where is haree today??:)
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
@rakesh: I have inentionally left it. It has some issues with WM 6.5 taskbar. I hope it will be more compatible in next version.

I dont know, he was outstation i think. In his last post, as i faintly remember, he said he will flash this rom as soon as he reaches bangalore in the morning :)
[P3400 ROM Development] haree:
just came bak& flashing new ROM

hi

juts came bak flashing now feed back latter:D:D

as of now i see no problem it seems K ok for me will get bak latter if any issues
[P3400 ROM Development] imblfmstr:
new keyboard

@ Krazy

Can u please add the iolite keyboards to ur ROM

whats the use of query analyzer in the ROM....

please guide me how to remove it
[P3400 ROM Development] haree:
Feed bak

hi

as of this min im having no problem at all

1.battery indicator working great first 6.5 with this great man:D

2.SMS no problem sent many got many

3. its quite fast and good

i love the jingle man very nice :D:D

all in all its great to my knowledge:D:D

Thanks sumit thanks a million im loving it :p:D:D

one request : pls tell me how to install the other theams as they dont seem to be tsk and i cant understand as were and how to install the same i do have afew for 6.5 downloaded on my comp
[P3400 ROM Development] jyot:
@krazy

in ur main features u hav mentioned that its a honeycomb interface

but its the new one withot hexagons
[P3400 ROM Development] imblfmstr:
use a cab file to get the hexagon back

Hi! Jyot

u can get back the honeycomb style by installing a cab file available in Helgee's 6.5 thread...its very nice to have small icons back

I am attaching the cab
[P3400 ROM Development] PREMOLIKES:
My request

Hi Sumit , my request is that plz make the rom as light as possible like the current(though not tested) as in the list and like helgee , plz make keyboard , dialers etc to be choice of the user so that they can easily customise with their own taste.The thing is that people are lazy to search good applications and use them instead they want all in your rom, Also there are always useless feedback, complains like the battery icon.
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Lite ROMs are not possible with me buddy, sorry. I design ROMs for my personal use first and when i feel that its good enough to be liked by others, i share them here. All the things that i change on user feedback is after that.

In my personal philosophy, the ROM should make the device feature rich, even beyond what manufacturers have decided them to be, by removing the un used things and adding things that could be of more use. Plus, i add software to my ROMs that are installed in phone memory anyway coz In ROM, due to compression they take up less space then when they are installed in phone memory manually. Manilla is a good example, in Phone Mem it takes 13-14 MB while in ROM it takes 6-7 MB, thats just half!

ProUsers series has always been designed for users who want to use their phones in all its originality while integrating newer features for enhanced user experience. So leaving applications that either cripple the original functionality of the phone or hinder the incorporation of useful new features is out of question for me.
[P3400 ROM Development] imblfmstr:
well said

I agree with u krazy....we are here to get more...

anyways if anybody dislike any of the apps incorporated we can remove them and recook the ROM as they are unprotected.....though it requires some grey matter in the brain to churn.....

many thanks krazy for sharing ur personal choice with users out here....

please do recommend the best working opera version for gene....
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
@Jyot: You have a misconception buddy, the interface is still called honeycomb start menu, just the display of hexagons has been changed. The menu is being changed according to user requests.
[P3400 ROM Development] jyot:
ohhhh.....sorry bro

thnx for clarifying my doubt :)
[P3400 ROM Development] haree:
its great man in loving it

hi

i would first like to thank u for this great perfect ROm it has every thing needed great man i would like to call this the Perfect 6.5ROM man:D im totally comfy happy that u have also added the PDF reader(i do save some official Pdf stuff which i would like to ref from time to time ) and office i think their is nothing more needed only one thing if u could change the keyboard but any way i have installed finger keyboard so this problem also solved

thanks again man in really loving it man:D

and i have no problems at all every thing looks K OK for me :D
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
For people who are experiencing Playback stopping in standby problem, the Fix in Pro Users WM 6.1 thread is working in this version also. PLease use that. :)
[P3400 ROM Development] danny7837:
"Has to be another Exceptonal Rom from the Super Chef"

Eagerly Awaiting :D 23003 build :D
[P3400 ROM Development] yours_vinodh:
very well said danny... me too waiting... ;)
[P3400 ROM Development] htc3400:
Are you back in Delhi yet??

Eagerly waiting....

;)
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
No, not yet. Most probably, i'll be back in business by saturday :|

UPDATE: What the heck! 23004 is out. Seems like guys at Microsoft are working their a** off :D Downloading right now :)
[P3400 ROM Development] charge1313:
Dude, go into PR or marketing or something...

You really really know how to get us all excited!

*Can't wait*
[P3400 ROM Development] siddhesh1609:
hey sumit is there any way to make start menu as it appears in wm 6.1

i m not much into honeycomb structure!:)

i found this(http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=522755)

but its just a list version of honeycomb i need same start menu as 6.1
[P3400 ROM Development] charge1313:
Search for quickmenu. Its an advanced start-menu program with a built in task manager etc etc...

I don't know how well it will work with 6.5. But if it works you'll be able to access it by tapping the start area and the regular programs menu by long-pressing the start icon. That's how it works on wm 6/6.1...

6.5, I believe, has a different task/title bar (WKtask didn't work before it was tweaked) ... so it might not work or might cause problems. be warned.
[P3400 ROM Development] siddhesh1609:
quick menu dint work properly re!i wann original start menu!!
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
Working perfectly, atleast in new Gene :)
[P3400 ROM Development] PREMOLIKES:
Thanks Sumit, I have installed compime.dll fix cab
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Hey Guys,

Today i finished testing my new OEM Packages for Windows Mobile 6.5. Thanks to the new modified kitchen, that is based upon Besfen's kitchen, which in turn is based on platform rebuilder by bepe, I am able to focus more on the ROM and less on porting hassels. I have patched few registry settings, Mended the OEM* folders thereby taking one step further in porting the Elfin OEM folders on Gene.

I have also been able to change the ugly looking oversized icons of the old, WM 6.5 non-aware applications and control panel items and replace them with WM 6.5 sized (45x45 pixels) icons. The start menu is looking nice and so are the Settings.

Currently all this is running on build 23004 which is stable but not without problems which is very normal as this series is undergoing heavy development changes. 219xx series is having a few unstable features right now (which is the sole purpose of the series, to test unstable feature. on being stable these features are backported to 230xx series). The most likely feature to come next to 6.5 is the ability to remain at the settings screen after you choose an option. Currently, we come out of the menu to Homescreen, which is not very desirable, and 6.1 was not that way.

I will post the 23004, or whatever ROM soon. I am trying to get it uploaded using my phone but i cant promise much as i am not yet back in Delhi. Will be back on Sunday.
[P3400 ROM Development] PREMOLIKES:
@krazy

Plz tell me how to change page pool from the ROM, Orefkov once build a pagepool changer for gene but it is not working anymore. DO u have any working tools, if it can be done from the device itself , it will be better.

Thanks.
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Here is the one that always work for me:

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=107127&d=1219132335
[P3400 ROM Development] ankit360:
OEM ? i recent work on oem some work is left like resise icon of power, usbtopc, devicelock + trying to add topaz mhub and dshow also some work on oem driver is also left cuttenty i have oem wich consist oem of some new rom like iolite and topaz if you need o wkll share it

but my oem not useful to new platfom rebuilder

lot of thing r going on i also going to change my kitchen to visual kitchen

sorry for bad eng typing from opera mini
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Ya buddy, please share, i would like to give it a go.

BTW, there is no need to resize the icons, i have successfully able to understand the new png image based icon system of WM 6.5 and we can set any 45x45 pixel png image as start menu or settings icon. There are new registry settings for it and we were also missing some essential settings previously related to mycpl package. I am writing a detailed tut for it so, just wait for a while and then use that tut for using new icons.

I have a batch convertor for normal packages to platform rebuilder format so that is not a problem.

And i would not recommend you to go for Visual Kitchen as many of the members at PPCGeeks are having random problems with new WM 6.5 builds in Visual Kitchen. On platform rebuilder i dont even have to port the xip and sys. Just copying and running the kitchen works. I will post my slightly modified kitchen soon.

Thanks for writing man, dont worry about english as far as it is understandable.
[P3400 ROM Development] ankit360:
here is my OEM tested and working fine

http://www.gazup.com/lsiDv-oem.7z-download-mirrors/
[P3400 ROM Development] dggopal:
off topic.... but

First off want to say thanks to sumit KFT for the awesome roms...

Now to the question I had: Where can I find a HTC dream in Bangalore... I remember a post in the gene forum by angel something i forget the actual screen name but she said it was available for around 20k...

Went to garuda mall at some mobile shop there and the guy said it wasn't launched yet in india but hero should be launching this month or something...

true reason for me asking for dream is my desire for a sub 20k smart phone with qwerty, wifi and 3g... thats the only one out there right?

I know this is off topic and probably belongs in the dream forum but I asked here because it was previously discussed here and a lot of people in the gene forum and this thread are located in India if not Bangalore itself... sorry if the post is unwelcome...
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Well i am currently staying in Noida, so cant tell you about Bangalore, but i will try to enquire some dealers in Nehru Place or Gaffar Market.

Her screen name is BlueAngel and yes she talked about it once. It is most probably available for around 20K.

It is the only choice if you need qwerty otherwise Touch 3G is there. Nokia might also have some devices in its symbian N series, I dont give much look to these now.
[P3400 ROM Development] dggopal:
yeah

yeah i dont really see the functionality of symbian after coming to windows mobile... dunno willing to try android even though its still young... trusting the name of google not to let me down... plus is open source so it has to have some crazy dev.

but is dream officially launched in india though or only available through grey market?

and if hero is coming out soon then should i wait till after that releases or do you think the price will still be pretty much the same even after? I know you can't really say but what do you think?
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
I dont know, i dont trust open source software that much personally. I prefer to pay for what i get from others.

Yes the dream is officially launched in India, its on the HTC India website also.

Ya you can wait for Hero but it wont be priced the same as Dream, the reason being the new interface that HTC is supplying with it. Remember, HTC charges more for software than for hardware in almost all its phones. Dream was lighter on pocket because its is not that heavily customized by HTC and the android os doesn't have a license fee attached with it like Windows Mobile.
[P3400 ROM Development] PREMOLIKES:
Thanks a lot, I have change it to 6 , now it is rocking.
[P3400 ROM Development] htc3400:
@krazy

Alast sunday has come......expecting a grt ROM today...... :D
[P3400 ROM Development] rakesh_4utoo:
waiting for ur rom:)
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
I am still not in Delhi, although i am trying my best to upload the rom. Power outage is a big problem in cities like my hometown, Bareilly :(
[P3400 ROM Development] sweetashun:
ah!!! hmmm.....guys i guess we gada wait a little more,...:(
[P3400 ROM Development] dvpradhan:
sirs,

i dont know where to post this but i ve a question.i got a gene p3400i in may2009.i feel very uncomfortable with the poor level of RAM available.so despite hving wm6 already i wanna flash my Rom to get faster working n greater available RAM.

But wen i c the about tab(whre it shows Windows Mobile 6) it reads Total Memory 43.27MB.Y is it so when most gene phones ve more thn 50MB total memory as displayed in there screenshots.

Should i flash then?will it b of any benefit?
[P3400 ROM Development] imblfmstr:
@Dvpradhan

the original ROM contains a lot of programs and options which are not much used generally and ppl here in the forum used customized ROMs which much more faster than original ROMs and are whole lot more useful....anyways they are a matter of personal choice but to my experience you won't regret updating your PDA with new custom ROMs availailable here...

Although the process is risky but experts like Krazy (Sumit) have made a detailed guide on how to flash ur device with minimum risk.....u will love your PDA once u flash it with custom ROMs on this thread....

U can find a variety of ROMs ranging from Wm 6, 6.1, 6.5 along with manilla 2D interface...to find out which suits u best, u need to read alot and u r lucky enough at this time that many people are using customs ROMs for gene and u can read their comments....

just go daring and flash ur device...have fun...

Cheers!!!
[P3400 ROM Development] coolaj:
:)Hi Ankit, thanks for sharing your oem forlder always wanted a clean oem, it works fine and it is also compatible with Platform Rebuilder Kitchen provided by Helgee, just have to convert it to Ext Packages with the tool by ervirus.

Regds,
[P3400 ROM Development] charge1313:
@krazy_about_technology: Any luck getting things to upload?

BTW, does 23004 have any major differences when compared to 21815? In memory, applications, behaviour, stability etc etc?
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Nah, my phone gets too hot while uploading, dont know why. And while uploading, i got disconnected, happened twice. So i left it. Will do it from Delhi only.

Guys, i have found a nice registry setting. If you dont use the Windows Mobile 6.5 lockscreen because of memory issues, or because you use another lock program like S2U2, you can disable the build in lockscreen and go back to the 6.1 style lockscreen by using this registry setting:

[B][HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\microsoft\Shell\LockScreen]
"Enable"=dword:00000000
[/B]

Enjoy!
[P3400 ROM Development] charge1313:
Cool. Thanks for trying atleast :p

I don't remember where, but I'm sure I saw an option somewhere to use the wm6.1 lockscreen. I don't remember if it was in the OS itself or in some app (though I suspect its in the OS itself)...

I can't check now because I'm using your WM 6.1 PRO users rom right now (2.7) but I'm sure you don't need to reg-edit for this.

Thanks anyway - it'll come in handy if people want to do this with mortscript or create a cab or something :D

Check in

Settings -> personal -> lock

Settings -> System -> Screen

Settings -> System -> Keylock

I think it'll be in there somewhere. (Or in their wm 6.5 equivalents :p)
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
No the setting is not in all of the 3 places you said. It must be in some 3rd party program. I was searching for something like this, and i found it in the lockscreen folder of th WM 6.5 SYS, the most obvious place i could thought of when starting my search :)

EDIT: I apologize for my previous words. i got it, the setting is present in Start>Settings>Personal>Lock on the Display tab :)
[P3400 ROM Development] charge1313:
:( So much for my memory. :p

When are you likely to be in a position to upload? Also, are you using the new rom? Any experiences/things to note with it?