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[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] luxp:
downgrading doesnt work, got stuck, need help

hi folks,

i am glad i found this great forum and its wiki! thx to anybody!

Since my t mobile germany mdaIII didnt wake up one day for unknown reasons i started to flash the rom.

By this I got it back working again with several versions of win5 and 6 EXCEPT the CAMERA and the PHONE and the SOUNDS. :eek:

i can do phone calls but cant hear anything (can hear with BT headset, but partner wont hear anything)

camera says: cant initialize camera

sound: there is no sound at all (worked one day for some minutes:confused:)

i wouldnt miss the camera too much BUT the not working phone keeps me busy working on this prob.

i spent too much time now (if i would get 5€/hour i worked on it it could buy me a new i phone or an old mercedes...)

i tried any rom i found and i lost completly the overview of what i did when.

latest i followed the wiki very exact to downgrade it to wm2003. i tried that before (with different 2003 roms) but i always ended up at the same point:

the downgrade runs through and when i am prompted to do the reset by pressing power and reset it starts up with the original tmobile startscreen (the one you get to see when it is restarting), telling me on a grey screen with quadrats on the screen:

T...Mobile

r 1.15.00

g 1337.45

d 1.22.01

but doesnt go any further.

i think this could maybe have to do with the storage that i maybe changed!?

any tips how i can find out and rechange it?

hardware prob?

WHO HAS AN IDEA? i am willing to follow any suggestion...

c ya here... hopefully

luxp :cool:

MDA 3

t-mobile germany

r 1.15.00

g 1337.45

d 1.22.01 (it seems that this is the former original OS-number although it should have changed through the processes?!

- a storage thing?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Hey fellas,

I have been coming in and out for the last couple of months. I see that Chef & Que have kept things under control. Thanks for contributing to the forum like this. I do my part whenever I am around as well, but like Que pointed out, my new avatar is indeed my son. He is my first, a little over 3 weeks old, and a bundle of joy at that. I cannot begin to tell you how happy I am about the whole thing. Of course, my BA will always be my baby, but this one needs a little more attention. You see? My BA didn't use to go through so many diapers in a day :D

Again, thanks for helping out fellas...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
@luxp,

It seems that you have bad flashes. Are you following the wiki exactly as it says? Take a few minutes to go through the whole wizard and then attempt it again. Also, make sure that your battery is fully charged and that you do not have your SD card in while up/downgrading (I personally never had a problem with the last tip, but I have seen many people getting weird issues when the update was done with the SD inside).

Also, make sure that you do the No Yes Yes to clean the hive. Failing to do this will cause you to have old stuff from old roms coupled with new stuff (drivers, etc), which will cause the device to not respond as it should.

Good luck!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Chef_Tony:
congratulations! i thought my part, when i saw the new avatar, but i didn't wanna ask. congrats again.

best regards,

Chef_Tony
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] luxp:
@egzthunder1

hi!

thx for your answer!

my congrats for the birth of #1, too! may he always be lucky and healthy!

well, I admit that sometimes I wasnt able to follow the instructions exatly cause of my weak brain and too much time I spent on the problem :confused: but now I am willing to follow the wikis word by word and line by line...

no sim card, no sd card...

as soon as i do that I am facing the following probs:

If I want to get MY new old 1.42 rom and follow the link on the wiki

How to upgrade to 1.42

to my rom

T-Mobile Germany 14201_116_11300_GER

and download it. it contains about 30cabs and some .exe files that are not working cause they are no win32 files but ppc files. does that mean that this kind of OS update is meant to be put on a sd card and to be started from there for the upgrade?

if so it doesnt work for me because my mda is stuck in nowhere-land..

my workaround is to extract the last original t-mobile upgrade that i have on cd and to use that nk.nbf file. should also work, shouldnt it?

Further I cannot format storge and hive as my BA is stuck. shall i ignore that? how can i work around that prob?

ok, i just ignore that to continue and put my nk.nbf to the downgrade to 2003 folder as mentioned in the wiki and run it. as i cannot work with activesync I shut down the processes in taskmanager and start the downgrade by using the maupgradeUT_noid.exe. after 5 secs i get the congratulation screen, prompting me to do a reset which is useless and brings me to the same point where i started.

my former workaround at that point was to upgrade the device again to wm 5 and to try to do the downgrade from there. but i never succeeded with the downgrade (upgrade works..). maybe because of the storage that i maybe changed?

I am confused... maybe someone can lead me to the point where i can get my storage clear for downgrading?

as it is too boring to do nothing i just started the

ba_tmde_12201_182_10600_ship_special.

it seems to work and starts to do the upgrade process

and that leads me to: the same win2003 start screen where i got stuck before, although it did the whole upgrade process... :mad:

the only change is that it now shows

r 1.06.00 wich was 1.15.00 before...

i give up now and wait for some wise ideas of you helpfull senior members...

thx for reading!

have a nice day!

luxp:cool:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Chef_Tony:
maybe you want to refer to -=xplode's shipped rom archive=-http://firmware.atspace.com/Blueangel.html and download the proper shipped rom and try again, maybe also a few hard resets wouldn't hurt and if you are really stuck in bootscreen, maybe you want to try "mtty" but i just know it is supposed to work, i don't really know how, as i was never in need to use it.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] luxp:
@toni

thx toni and hello again...

mmmh. i am just downloading from xplode (i think i did that before...)

and already downloaded mtty. I already got it running but this would crash my brain at this moment. looks very complicated to me... but i will keep that in mind

(maybe there is someone around who is experienced using mtty?- i wish the tutorial was in german...)

let me check xplodes stuff first. maybe that helps...

c ya

luxp:cool:

ps after a 2nd attempt xplodes rom started to install but it would leave me at the same point where i started...

except that the screen now says

r 1.06.00

g 1337.38

d 1.42.01 (instead of 1.22....)

maybe i better go back to wm5 to rechange the storage settings?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] bossihab:
hey

hey all :)

when I try to install throttlelaucher in my BA and other thing new I have a message attached below (sign or something...) and I had this problem whenever I want to install the new programs??

is there any way to fix that

thanks by advance

sincerely:rolleyes:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
You are probably missing Compact Framework .Net. Install either 2.0 or 3.5 and you will be ok.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Yes. Putting the nk.nbf with a RUU should work fine. mtty should work also. I am having a hard time trying to understand why you can flash ok to upgrade but not to downgrade. Also, what do you mean you cannot clear the hive. If you see the version numbers (first splash screen), then you should be able to clean the Hive (assuming that your buttons are working properly). I am positive that if you got it to WM6 and had no sound/camera, the problem was simply that you did not perform the "No Yes Yes" to clean the hive and format the storage.

Also, why does it take only 5 seconds for the upgrade??? Do you have your device in bootloader at the time of flashing (the screen of your device should read "USB" and a version number of your bootloader (mine says 2.03).

Let me go back one step, are you using XP or Vista? If Vista, you could try to use a PC with XP if you have one available.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] luxp:
@egzthunder

thx for your attention and the time and brainpower you spent on my problem. i appreciate that!

I am using xp and tried several computers.

and:

no, if my BA seems to be downgraded well (that means that the process took a while) it always stops at that screen and its not possible to get to that menu where you clean the hive (no, yes, yes...). it simply stuck there. the only way to get it working that I found is to re-upgrade it- which unfortunatley doesnt solve my problem- no sound, no camera.

and:

yes, I guess you are right that I didnt do the NOYESYES-thing the first time I upgraded it. I didnt read the wiki carefully enough. my fault...

the 5 sec upgrade is strange. it just looks like the upgrade would start normaly but just ends with congratulations after some secs.

I dont know how to handle mtty... I mean i dont know which parameters i would have to set... and if its right that it would only work on a 2003 OS I question myself if I am already there with my stuck screen...

greetz to all

luxp
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Which upgrade utility are you using? Maupgradeut_noid.exe or Baupgrade?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] isahchan:
touchscreen games

hi, I've downloaded some touchscreen games that are applicable to my BA. I was just wondering if there's a way for me to play those games without using my number keys?

All my games could only be played using the number keys and not in the touchscreen way as how it should really be. I really want to play those games in touchscreen. Please help me.:(

HTC Blue Angel

O2 XDA IIS

WWE WM 6.5 build 230004
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Chef_Tony:
could you please give the names of those games, because i have to admit, by the way you describe the situation, i don't get it, and cannot advise you at all.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] luxp:
@egzthunder

I think i was using the Maupgradeut_noid.exe...

shall I test the other one?

greeetz

luxp:cool:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Use it to downgrade though and see what comes out of it.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] isahchan:
ah yes, sorry about that. I was talking about .jar games. I'm using Intent Midlet manager for these applications, because in JBED these games don't have any sound. Games such as Sally's Salon, Cooking Mama, Pop Superstar, and the like. I've downloaded the touchscreen versions but I can't play them in the touchscreen way. I can only play them using the number keys on my phone.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Chef_Tony:
i have to admit, after having a small look at it, i don't get it, normally java games do not support touchscreen, but those actually have it in the title, but was is that point of making touch screen java games and let them be controlled only by number keys. that is really strange. maybe you should have a look at, whether your midlet manager actually virtualizes the touchscreen for java. maybe those games are made for "real" mobile phones with touch screens, like nokia or sony ericsson, and maybe their digitizers work differently. i think you should contact the manufacturer of the games and the midlet manager and ask for compatible versions or maybe even real windows mobile versions, you know, cabs! if you have a customized rom on the device, wm5 or above, it is often best to state you have a htc touch, because that is a qvga device with wm6, when you say blueangel, people often (understandably) think of wm2003 and the compatibility is not really given for anything there.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] isahchan:
oh okay. do you know any sites that I could download games for my htc touch? Or is there a way for me to convert .jar files to .cab? Thank you.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Chef_Tony:
jar and cab are so completely different files, i think a conversion is not possible, since they work with different runtimes.

jar are java based

cab files can run on many differen runtimes, like c++, .netcf... or have an engine of their own. you should try and google something like "windows mobile games" or "games qvga cab wm6" or something comparable, i don't really know good sites that list games and have new releases, except the developers themselves, like ea mobile...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] luxp:
Sound & Camera Probs stilll not solved!

hello again,

finally I got my blueangel working again.:D exept the camera...:( but that doesnt hurt too much and I will keep on trying to get it back.

my probs with radio and sounds after/while up- and/or downgrading were be solved by upgrading to the german 6.5 rom WM6.5_BlueAngel.-__D-Two__- and installing of htc soundmanager cab (HTC Audio Manager v1.02.919713).

I was using MaUpgradeUt_noID and renamed HTCRUU.conf and HTCRUU.dll into RUU.conf and RUU.dll.

BUT this only worked for 3 hours. then, after using wmp, sound disappeared and would not come back. :mad:

thx to cheftony and egzthunder and the whole forum for giving me support and the feeling not to be alone with my blueangel probs! :rolleyes:

keep on trying, dont give up (or sell your device...), read the wiki carefully!

luxp:cool:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] isahchan:
network key incorrect

hi I've been trying to connect to my friend's wifi connection but there's always a message that says network key incorrect. I asked my friend what the password was, and she typed it for me a lot of times, but still the same error message. It's so weird because in other secured networks, I get to have a wifi connection, except for hers. What should I do?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Chef_Tony:
get more information about the network, whenever i entered the correct network key, but still couldn't connect, it was an accesspoint, running something, the BA can't. either it has wpa2 only, or wpa-aes, or 54mbit wlan-g only. all that is too new for the BA, it would ask for the network key, but after the connection attempt fails, it would assume, that the key was wrong. so it is your friend's router settings, that have to be altered for you to access it, set it to 11/54mbit dual mode, and maybe to wpa-psk tkip or wpa/wpa2 dual mode.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] n0wy:
Hi

I have got some problem with wm 6.5 roms.

When somebody call me and my device is in standby it takes about 13 seconds to my device start ringing and therefore I have many unanswered calls;/

When screen is active response is almous immidiate.

Does anybody know is there any way (setings) to quicken answer time while standby?

Thx in advence for any help
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] iceze:
try a different rom?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Ahccj:
extrom

i want to now how big the origenal size of the extrom is.

this because i want to go back to wm2003 or wm2005 and witch program i must get to do the job.

greetz,

Ahccj
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Chef_Tony:
the original extrom is 16mb, so probably 16.384kb.

for resizing it you should use a repart_doc.exe, which can be found -=here=-.

remember that resizing it to 16mb and then going to wm2005 wouldn't make any sense, because wm5 does not use the extrom. it is ony needed for wm2003
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Ahccj:
extrom

thanks, now i can go back.

greetz,

Ahccj
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Question from emaron

Check if your SD card works in other devices. It could be a variety of things ranging from the card being messed up completely, or simply the contacts being dirty.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Stevemann:
S2U Device Lock Problem

I am running Xplode's WM6.5 23004 and set up the Device lock as part of using a corporate mobile sync service. Fine during the week but annoying when I'm home. Worse; whilst using TomTom the device lock kicks in and loses my navigation display. I cannot find how to disable it or at least change the timeout to something longer than 5 minutes! The settings Device Lock disable checkbox is ignored. There are a couple of keys in the registry (policies) but these seem to be ignored. And I have the phone off when at home (so no connection to the sync service).

Anyone help please?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Stevemann:
Solved at last.

You will need to edit the registry in order to re-enable the checkbox. However, be careful as you might render your device inoperable (well - only if you haven't a clue about registry edits of values ;-)

Modify the following reg key:

Hkey_Local_Machine\Security\Policies\Policies\00001023.

Change the value from 0 to 1

to permit unchecking the box in Settings>Lock

DONE!!!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Question from dmontgom85

You have to set up the connection with your carrier.

http://theody.net/t-mobile.html

All the settings that are needed are there. Just create a new connection to the Internet via GPRS and use the settings in the website above. Good luck!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Question from byudi23

Try changing the cradle to a different USB port. Also, as Chef suggested in his response to you, try to erase older partnerships, and go in to the Settings->System->USB to PC and make sure that the "Enable advanced network functionality" option is enabled.

Also, you can try reinstalling ActiveSync. (make sure that it is 4.5)

Good luck!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Wr4i7h:
Hello all. I have a couple of problems. Thanks in advance for any help.

1: I'm using Ham3r's WM6.1 build for BA. I tried a few WM6.5 and 6.5.1 builds, but overall this is the fastest, most stable and most compatible rom i found so far. My only problem is that it includes ms office but not powerpoint, which i sometimes need. Trying to install office from a cab results in the installer locking up. Is there any similar WM6.1 ROM out there that i can try, but without office, or can i somehow edit this rom to remove it so i can install a full version?

2: With most roms (except d-two's beta WM6.5.1), activesync will fail to connect to my BA if it's in the cradle when the PC is booting. The activesync tray icon spins for around a minute, until it fails with the message shown in the attached image. Removing the BA and placing it back in the cradle fixes it every time, activesync connects just fine. I tried deleting the mobile device from activesync, disabling advanced network functionality in the BA and using a different USB port, but no dice. Note that activesync only fails to connect and the message only appears if the BA is in the cradle while the PC is booting. Granted this is only a minor annoyance but...

Some info:

The PC is running winxp sp2 and activesync 4.5.0 build 5096

The BA is running the following roms, in addition to WM6.1:

R 1.15.00

G 1337.45

No extrom.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] zendha:
why I can not see the incoming sms and I was not able to send sms? always entered to the conversation

im using wm 6.5

Edit/Delete Message

:(
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Some of sun_dream's roms come with full office (including PP). Xplode's roms normally have office in the ExtRom, so if you want to install those, they will not have Office pre-cooked in it. I cannot remember the latest, most stable version of a 6.1 rom that I have used from either of them, but they do exist. In fact, look at xplode's signature and you will see a link to all of his roms.

As far as ActiveSync, well.... just leave your BA out of the cradle until your PC is done booting up. I know it isn't what you wanted to hear, but... :D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Which build of WM 6.5 are you using?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Question from bdavis24

Same way you got the phone to 6.5. Just get a 6.1 rom and flash it using the same procedure. Good luck!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Question from thug_otgoo

Which version of Manila are you installing? Did you follow the correct procedure to install it? What exactly does not work?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Question from Gastro Man

Google and ye shall find...

http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=212980
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Wr4i7h:
Thanks for the reply.

I'm going to try a WM6.1 rom from this thread. However, the site linked in xplode's sig has only original roms. I'll search a bit in this forum.

EDIT: found a few WM6.1 roms, i'll try to test some in a couple of days.

Regarding activesync, yeah, but i'll try in another pc. It's probably just my old winxp install showing its age and i'm being lazy about reinstalling.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] okulskiy:
upgrade and first start problem

when i upgrade my BA to any new version 21501,23071.... after flashing when firs start (test screen and versions) my BA freeze

when i try to reset and format screen device go to thise screen and freeze

if i set 6.50.33_6.5_21725.5.0.20 device work and when i try to reset and format screen device go to thise screen and freeze

what problem with my BA?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] mhisani:
Stuck at boot screen

Hello my question is as follows :

I followed the steps to upgrade my Blueangel to WM6. And I tried a WM6.5 rom. That worked fine but I wanted to try some others so I tried to reflash which again went fine. Then upon reset it hangs at boot screen IE (blue green red and white) bar screen. I've tried a hard reset and there was a message about MTTY and tried those steps. And still it remains like it is.

R 1.15.00

G 1337.45

D 6.5.23004EN (this seems to not matter)

Also tried to put a WM6.1 rom on with the same issue. Whilst I'm usually fine with flashing HTC devices i'm stumped.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
What screen? It freezes where? Please be more specific. Thanks...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Are you doing the No Yes Yes routine to clear the hive and format? It seems that you either have a bad flash or are doing something wrong during the flashing process. Does the flashing process complete? Meaning you get the "Congratulations" screen on your computer? If so, how long does the flashing take to complete. It should take roughly 10 minutes. Can you get to bootloader?

Try to flash back to stock and see if that helps with your problem. Remember that your battery has to be at least 50% charged and you should have the AC adapter on as well. Finally, remember to kill ActiveSync and take out the SD card and the SIM card prior to flashing (the last two are not really necessary, but it has been reported to cause issues).
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Question from sysrq_00

Have you tried installing Arcsoft? Also, which version of 6.5 are you using?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] sysrq_00:
Yes sir tried Alltel Arcsoft MMS 5.0.70.24 Beta 6 maybe it my settings any luck for a working stk on wm6 sir? I'll try to configure my MMS settings manually.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] sysrq_00:
Message Delivey Failed or Message Receipt Failed got this error when sending MMS messages tried this also SJ_Hermes_Dopod_Network_Wizard_v2_15_5_WWE.

Thanks