yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] caldito:
Good luck man. Let me know if you need 6.1 20xxx testing.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sztupy:
and always reload the code to test it's integrity.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dharvey4651:
Good luck man. Please report your results as soon as possible :o
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] neptronix:
Up my pledge

Dharvery, up my pledge from $5.00 to $15.00
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dharvey4651:
Updated 1st post and thread title. :cool:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Luckyfox777:
wish you this time to be lucky like me

:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Drybonz:
The suspense is killing me! Could there be a winner?!?! :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gerryg:
Put me down for €15 (~$20) any result, This has been one the best theads i've been following in a while, great to see the chefs getting guaranteed reward for thier effort (Bounty is better then optional Donation), its also been quite educational, IDA ouputs always baffled me but this thead has made more sense of it, I thought it outputted C++ (wishful thinking), I had trouble understanding the basic C based/resembling outputs but this thread has been great, thanks again to all who have been putting time and effort in.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ND4SPD:
thanks for all the support!

problem: my stupid computer is acting up and at this point I can't even open up the folder that I have the files in...and this is after restarting.

whatever, I'll see how it is tomorrow. btw, I've still got some work to do on incoming call screen. I'm almost positive that call status screen and dialer are fine at this point. I'll have to check once I can get my computer to work properly.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gxg:
nothing new?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ND4SPD:
found it did squat. Even though I'm pretty sure I changed the correct values, it didn't change at all.

I'm still looking around...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gullum:
this means I'll have to start working on this on sunday.

I dont have my development apps on this computer.

I have been porting some apps to qvga while waiting for someone to get this dialer fixed but on sunday I have all my apps and can start working
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ark666:
This thread reminds me the old days of XDA, :), i´m eager to see your magic work on this one.

Cheers, :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ND4SPD:
I was thinking about that, but the phcanhtc is specific built against WVGA devices. It that were not the case, then we probably could just edit the values in PE Explorer/Reshacker. I tried directly modding the position of the 6 buttons on the in call status screen, but it seems like the actual images for it are being repositioned by phcanhtc after it's initialized. That's what I changed this time and that didn't work either. I'm still looking around as I said before.

Hopefully you guys can find out what needs to be changed. This is way out of my scope - I've only done dev with C#/Java and some C++, but not Win32 C++, which seems a lot different. I'll still try to work on this though.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
I'll have a look tomorrow.

Does moving the position of the buttons of the non-in calll screen work?

Also, I just made a cab out of the OEM file, and installed it onto the WVGA emulator image, but it doesn't work at all (i get the original buttons with a screwed up background)... Anyone have any ideas why that may be?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ND4SPD:
Do you mean you get the MS default dialer with screwed up background? You'll need to install some other dialer first and then install this on top of it.

...and yeah, the buttons for the dialer are moved mainly because they aren't really moved by the phcanhtc anywhere. That part works perfectly - gullum showed the proof of concept earlier this week and I got the same result with both the 3G Video Call Canvas and the 2G Conference Call Canvas. I guessed that the phcanhtc was managing it after phcanrc set up the initial position and that's why the same can't be done with the in call screen. As for the incoming call screen, I've found some method calls but have no clue about what I should do with that.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ND4SPD:
8133 is the Landscape Dialer. Make sure you match values of the Dialog 8132 (portrait dialer) to the original diamond values but change the control number 3016 to match gullum's values.

The screenshots should match Gullum's screenshots. Mine did.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gullum:
Sorry for the mistake I have corrected the dialer screen code to portrate.

this is the problem of the small screen on shift :D wrong tapping with the stylus.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _4saken_:
count me in on the pledge, 10$ USD here!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
Given up on getting the emulator to work, it's faster just to hard reset :D

The dialer works nicely as is if you don't need 0 or backspace :D

Using the Diamond shipped phcanhtc.dll makes the buttons all work, so the locations are being controlled by that for certain.

Adjusting the values of phcanrc.dll to that of the Diamond seemed to have no affect at all...

EDIT:

Quick screenshot of no changes

EDIT2:

Sorry, I manage to copy across the wrong phcanrc.dll, so of course it wouldn't update!

The new version works properly... Shall I try and get landscape to work?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] caldito:
I dont know if the Diamond values completelly adjust the new dialer as the topaz one has the new bottom button bar. Can you see it after the change to diamond values.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
Yup.

The dial screen works perfectly with the adjusted values.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] malanmessemore:
so out of 100% how much do you have done?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] caldito:
Awesome, Excellent job.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
The in call stuff is proving far more complex... No idea how long it'll take...

gullum and ND4SPD may have got further on in this though...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] deeznuts:
Wow, that looks nice!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
If I can provide a VGA Phone Canvas that works with Manila 2.0, I can recieve this bounty? I can maybe the HTC Orginal VGA files. will have to wait and see.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ark666:
"This will only be paid to the first person to produce a tested-working version of this canvas in VGA with screenshots and proof that all features work."

Here´s your answer my friend.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ND4SPD:
trust me, I'm in the same boat as you. I've done a few things to change it, but nothing worked. I'm going back to the basics and setting breakpoints on anything that seems to draw onto the window.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
I tried using Remote Spy++ to see what controls were what. I couldn't actually get anything from it, so now I'm comparing the Diamond phcanhtc with the Topaz one... It's not going that well :S
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jonnrb:
He does have a great question however. The only real point of porting this canvas is to get the new manila to work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Luckyfox777:
i think HTC will keep new manila and stuff only for new devices as they what more profit and will also use new manila as a point of attraction for customers.so the port is needed :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] caldito:
My pledge is for a port of the released version of Topaz Canvas. Even if there is a workarrond to get Manilla2 working with the old canvas i prefer to have the new canvas ported due to its new features.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] utak3r:
yeah, that's true :)

now we can see such things really rarely - if ever... ah, itsme, buzz, toenailed, xdajojo, ToFClock (RIP...) and others... the spirit of XDA :cool:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
I ask because the HTC Twin, is VGA, and it runs on Manila 2.0, It would also have that phone canvas. So would not not work?

I also ask because I know that some people will not want to pay it up. it might work 100% but people will say, that I say I was going to pay for a Topaz port, and this is a Rhodium or a Twin Port, so becasue of that, I am not going to pay now. So before I will provide anything, I want to make sure this is clear.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jug6ernaut:
conflipper is wise.....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MRFERRARI23:
so does this mean you have a working rhodium version??? please say you do wow!! thats the one i want anyways that has the conferencing i believe!!! so whats the 411 on this conflipper???:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] neptronix:
Conflipper, is the Twin canvas identical to the Topaz Can? Just my two cents, but my pledge would still stand if it was a VGA canvas that worked with the Manila 2.0
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dharvey4651:
Send me a PM please.

Quoting both of you, I must say that I will be happy to send my pledge to the first person who provides a canvas that fixes the broken features of the new manila and contact card editor.

I would really like for it to have the conference call functionality but to be honest I haven't had it up until now and don't think I would really use it. I would be quite happy with even a normal slide to answer phone canvas as long as it fixes the current problems with the manila.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] caldito:
This clarification is OK for me. If this Twin canvas is perfectly integrated with manilla2, i dont have any problem to pay.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aaronsmckee:
I would defintely fulfill my pledge for this, if all the functionality from the Rhodium were included (which it sounds like would not be the case) I would pitch in more $ (per my first pledge $15/$15). If you have the twin rom why not share?

My main intrest is the additional functionality but if yours gets the VGA manilla running I would certainly send you some $$
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MRFERRARI23:
whatever it is that conflipper seems to have, is it like the rhodium dialer with its conference call stuff an all the extras on the dialer???
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] parkjam:
It would seem that if Conflipper speaks the truth, and he has access to a ROM from the Twin, then we wouldn't need to port the new manila either, as it would also be in that ROM?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pixelwix:
man i hope that is the case!!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dharvey4651:
I don't think he has the ROM. I think he gets Packages on a package to package basis.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lover:
gullum any new updates?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gullum:
no there are no new news because I havn't got home yet, so I don't have my tools.

but I have a version of a rhodium dialer that suports bouth video and confress. but the topaz dialer seams to miss some files for landscape.

I have 3 differant versions of the new dialer and not shure witch one I should start working on

I have the dialer set up for portrate and landscape for bouth rohodium dialers.

then if conflipper already has a VGA version will I be vasting my time trying to port this? and should just port it to qvga insted.

anyway I will start working on the phcanhtc.dll as soon as I get home
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] anja31:
Lets clear something out here:

- I trust in Conflipper - he provide so much things... I will donate another 20$ for this.

- afaik the Twin has no landscape support

- the manila from Twin is missing a few things, but needs also the new phonecanvas

- for me its better to have original HTC oem, maybe one of the good cheafs can make a better one out of this.

- so please dont stop working on it

regards

anja31
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lover:
sounds good, maybe porting from all 3 dialer and make something lol
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
I do not have the files at this time. I am expecting them soon. Once I do get the Files, then I will provide them. I do not expect anything in return. The idea of community is to share. So once I can provide the files. I will let everyone off of there pledges. I am not trying to get rich, much rather see community grow, and maybe in the future that will give other people the idea to share.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Luckyfox777:
Conflipper

I respect you!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
I also realised the Topaz Dialer doesn't support landscape fully. I just haven't yet had a look at the rhodium one instead.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] D4rkoman:
A really dumb question...

Is it really necessary that the ported dialer should support landscape mode?

Isn't it a feature which is nice to have but will not often be in used?

Who wants to talk to somebody in landscape? I think it is very impractically.

But it is still my opinion.

Nevertheless, great job guys.

BOTH THUMBS UP!

Happy Easter!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
It's a nice feature for things like the TP where you want speed dial and the keyboard.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dharvey4651:
Bumping from page 4.

ND4SPD have you had any luck getting any closer?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Soaa-:
Looks like we got a race between conflipper and ND4SPD then... ;D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dharvey4651:
Gullem is working on it too I think.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ND4SPD:
I didn't work on it at all today. I've been working on a User Customization replacement called OnDemand Customization. I'll try working on it tomorrow - I know for a fact I won't have the time to do it today.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dharvey4651:
Log into MSN and send me an IM. There should be an invite for you if you haven't already accepted it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ND4SPD:
Just saw your post. will do.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hayer:
htc touch?

would this work on htc touch if so i might consider a donation.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jug6ernaut:
if the touch is qvga which i think it is, then no, this is a VGA port.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MRFERRARI23:
"but I have a version of a rhodium dialer that supports both video an conference"

Gullum Id love to have this one an I think you should work on it complete it an get it out cause at this point its any ones game and since i have a tp id prefer the rhodium one!!! thank you for you work an support i respect what you do!!! :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sd73ta:
Ill give $10 usd for the vga
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pcarvalho:
man my pda goes 2 the shop 4 a month and now so many ports happening...cool :D

can i join this? 2 bad its 4 VGA...gonna mess with this one 4 QVGA :)

could someone sum up all the progress made...i know i have 2 read be4 posting and all, but, its already alot of pages...is progress till now the one on 1st page? just answering that would satisfy me...thanks

cheers
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
As far as I know, (and as far as I've gotten) the dial pad and call log work. The in call screen is a ***** though and doesn't work properly yet.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dharvey4651:
Bumping from page 7 :eek:

Updates anyone?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jmz:
I am home again so i am working on it. dharvey...can you pm me on msn?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jmz:
Well got it to somewhat work. Just can't make phonecalls right now. Can get incoming calls and see the dialer. This is just testing right now, so the dialer is missing the buttons at the bottom and I had the wrong mui files and that is why there is no text in the incoming call screen
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
That looks good...

Though the dialer screen looks identical to what the original Diamond had... Having the video call switch and the on screen call button are nice, even at the expense of some of the button size. But that part is relatively easy to implement...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gullum:
what canvas are you using? it looks like the tachi one,

that one cant call because it can not determine what sim or band to use,it is for a dual sim phone
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] m3Jorge:
sign me up for $15.00 for it working with TP CDMA :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
I've got the Tachi dialler now as well.

Perhaps we could create a dummy SlotMgrInterface.dll that returns a default value?

I'll need to actually look at what happens to do this, but it could be done.

Doing it with a dummy dll would mean there could be a CDMA dummy dll as well, that would enable the dialler on GSM or CDMA devices.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jmz:
me and nd4spd are going through this right now...hopefully we can get it figured out
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
Cool.

IDA Pro has decided it doesn't like my computer today... :( It worked fine yesterday...

It would be easier with a real Tachi though... :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jmz:
Heck, another GSM/CDMA device would be perfect. If you look at the reg settings for slot manager, there are a lot of regs that we could force it to go into one mode or the other. But I have tried just about every combination within reason to make it and i couldn't.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] utak3r:
Hey guys.... finally got a moment to sit down... :rolleyes:

but: there're so many version in here, do you know which are the keys?

There're quite few versions of fnShowDialerLayout and others... any hint?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] teixeirabmb:
Any news?

$407.70 is such a strange number, so I would donate 5 bucks to round it ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Krzysiec:
Hope we we`ll get soon working Dialer ...

With 5 bucks is still strange number ;) 2.30 $ or 7.30 or 12.30 is round it :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] vranikx:
for me it is so boring this topic...what is so special on this dialer?! i am just curious.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] losdrivare:
All the info you need is in the first post, as usual.

The dialer is a requirement for the manila 2 VGA port to work properly.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kapitanogor:
:D

I think 92.30 $ will round it definitely ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jonnrb:
It doesn't really have too many features. The only advantage is for us stateside users that could never do threeway calling. Otherwise, it's just an extremely good looking layout :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gxg:
So why you keep "visit"-ing us? :)

If you bothered to read it... you didn't post the "curiosity"
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] PC400:
Forecast for the CAB VGA?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dickenz:
Relax dude... They haven't even finished porting it... Last words were most were stuck on the in-call screen.

Give them a fair chance.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] PC400:
Its ok brother! rsrsrs
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jug6ernaut:
idk if anyone has take a look at the dialer from the tashi...but...its...interesting...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] phelony:
add 10 dollars for me id love to see this on my sprint TP
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] savage25rcracer:
REG settings

Does anyone have the reg settings for this dialer
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ledfortr:
count me in for $20, lets get this thing ported.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] caldito:
dharvey, have you got any feedback from the people working on this port?. I have not seen much activity in the last week about the evolution of this port.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jmz:
Due to an action that was taken against a post of mine, I have left XDA but still follow this thread. I am only posting to let you guys know this and I am working on it as much as I can but work is taking a lot out of me. Me and ND4SPD are keeping in touch and throwing each other info on getting this ported.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sguerra923:
Sorry to hear that..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] caldito:
jmztaylor, keep up the good work. I share with you the thinking that cooking a rom is not like writing the "Windows 7" source code and specially this forum being a colaboration community all the work should shared in an open way. However it seems that some poeple think the opposite.

Anyway i hope you get this done to demostrate to that little people what is knowledge sharing.

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wyzmen:
Agreed. I thought this forum was created for learning, and OPEN sharing purposes. If people are not willing to share their creations w/ others in EVERY way, then they shouldn't post them for PUBLIC download. Sorry to see u leave jmztaylor. Your work will be missed!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] explisiv:
wow

drama everywhere but this dialer would make the tp2 cfay rom even more awsome
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Krzysiec:
Is this thread dead? No replies ... no posts ... only silent ... Anyone got any part of this dialer to work properly ? Any progress on it ? ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dharvey4651:
Yup... Dead. This post is bumping this thread from page 4 and I don't think this will ever happen. I'm waiting for the person to prove me wrong...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jug6ernaut:
Do we have any hope with the Tashi Phone Canvas?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dickenz:
So that means we won't be running the new version of Manila that is bug fixed?

We're stuck on the current beta VGA port until someone ports this?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dharvey4651:
No that won't work because it is unable to actually make a phone call what so ever. It will receive them but you can not actually call anyone, not even 911. The reason for this is because the Tachi is a Dual SIM/CDMA phone and it is constantly searching for the second sim card SLOT. Not the card itself but the slot. Because it can't find that, you can not actually make the phone calls.

Unfortunately, you are correct.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jonnrb:
I think this was HTC's evil way of forcing us to buy their latest greatest phone by cornering us into using this canvas. Since it's much harder to port a phone canvas than it is a Manila upgrade, we can't use the newest Manila because we can't port the canvas. Such an unfortunate thing :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Goatmaster:
For me the file http://xboxmod.totalgamer.org/PACKAGE_Topaz_PhoneCanvas.rar isn't there.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Boss428man:
I don't want to start a huge debate or anything but its a shame that they don't continue to port these things to older devices, I mean most of us are in a 1-2 year contract so the average xda'er isn't going to buy a new phone at full price around $700 a pop ever time a new one comes out. I would think that after 2 years most of us just get bored or get the new phone fever and end up buying a new HTC anyway when we have the option. We then end up passing our old HTC's onto others that will get addicted to the brand. I would think that continuing to make HTC customers feel important/special would in the long run help the brand. If anything XDA is doing the job for free and at the least they could send a little thanks. (If the quote is the case. As on purpose.)

Anyway hopefully someone with some skills can port the phone canvas. Wish I could help but my knowledge only extends to image resizing and basic reg edits. I was never much good at programing.

BTW: I found this link worked for the phone canvas... http://sibbor.nu/ManilaRhodium/
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] teixeirabmb:
I totally agree with you.

I believe HTC is committing the same mistake Nokia did.

They just make their customers feel forgot and underapreciated by lunching so many similar devices without upgrading the old devices.

Universal is the perfect example: HTC never provided support for WM6 video call, and I'm talking about a 1.000Eur device!

I'm afraid HTC will have the same behaviour for Raphael... I hope I'm wrong...

Another link to PACKAGE_Topaz_PhoneCanvas.rar:

http://www.4shared.com/file/101414488/8d71e9f0/PACKAGE_Topaz_PhoneCanvas.html
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SamsungGalaxySamsung:
Hi Dharvey,

i thought sztupy was going to help us?

He can do things nobody can :cool:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] calciphus:
I'm in for $10

Just to sweeten the pot a little, I'm in for $10 if it works on CDMA.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reluttr:
Since the tachi dialer does not work, but it is simular to the rhodium dialer.

Couldent they dissassembal both OEM packages and check for key points that are differant. It might give a hint on what hex value is messing up the incall screen on the rhodium dialer.