yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jp7152:
I tested this new radio against Radio 1.10.25.25 which shipped with my phone. Really large speed improvements. I jotted down some results as I tested: I am in the UK with O2.

Radio 1.10.25.25

190-205kB/s download speed (Microsoft.com)

average ping 122ms (xda-developers.com)

gps 3d fix:

1.6-2.3hdop inside away from window

1.2-1.5hdop inside near window

2 bars signal strength

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Radio 1.13.25.24

200-240kb/s download (Microsoft.com)

upload to Virgin Media FTP 44kb/s

average ping 121ms (xda-developers.com)

gps 3d fix:

gps 3d fix 1.20-1.4 inside away from window hdop

gps 3d fix 1.20 inside near window

2 bars singal strength
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] stargator:
Trojan file error in customruu.exe

Any one got this error while unzipping the file :-
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cancar:
Italy TIM

in comparison with 1.09.25.14 1.13.25.24 is really much faster and sensible with GPS. I can achieve a fix in internal places as never before with HD and Diamond.

Bands available are UMTS 2100 850 1900 GSM 850 900 1800 1900. Sensibility seems sligthly better.

I don't see any change in data transfer speed.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tommy72:
I can also confirm that TomTom 7.915 works ok, with signal bars.

GPS sensitivity has greatly improved on this radio, I can get 10-12 sats indoors now, used to get 6-8!

Regards

Tommy
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] yung_vu:
yep, flashed new radio on an 850hz telstra hd. using L26 v9 ROM and can pick up NextG, wifi working no problems, data maybe slightly faster and GPS fix indoors in Sydney CBD...could never get an indoor fix with previous radios. old radios, with intermediate data and voice use, by 7pm battery would be 45% to 55%...first day with the new radio but currently (6.50pm) battery at 76%
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] AndyCr15:
Ok, I've been doing a lot of testing of battery life over the past 10 days. Here are some facts -

1.12 - 12 hours use - 44% battery used - 3.7% ph

1.10 - 17 hours use - 37% battery used - 2.2% ph

1.09 - 17 hours use - 30% battery used - 1.8% ph

1.13 - 15 hours use - 22% battery used - 1.5% ph*

*I have to admit, I've slanted the facts slightly, the 16th hour with 1.13 it dropped 10%... but then it stayed at 68% the whole night and infact is still at 68% now, so you could claim it's 32% used over 24 hours which is 1.3% ph. Of course, all of the radios use very little power overnight, so I've left it out of all measurements to keep it a level playing field.

So, general conclusion would be -

Better performance

Better battery life

If you haven't already, you really should swap to this ROM.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sunish:
followed all the steps.

I'm using HD_Blackstone_CustomRUU.exe ... it remains stuck on 0% and times out... :(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vire825:
sshutdown ur antivirus while installing
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fantasiser:
I've been using the ROM for a little while. Getting similar signal strength in most places, with a couple of places getting slightly better signal strength over 1.12. Battery life seems to be about the same. The big difference I have noticed is with wifi connections, It seems to connect much quicker now.

I also had no issues with installation from my PC. I couldn't flash from the card.

Just giving my two cents.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ahwaztaxi:
I confirm taht this radio rom has

better battery life

better gps signals

faster bluetooth on and off
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Saintsman:
Could someone do me a favour and upload this as a zip instead of a rar? I'm stuck with my work laptop at the moment (my home one is in for repair) and I can't get WinRAR on it

Thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Seven_PRX:
Installed it, didn't notice any increase in signal strength. Not any increase in GPS signal strength (doesn't work inside like previous versions).

Didn't test wifi or bluetooth; didn't benchmark network speed, didn't look at battery life.

So for me, it doesn't look to be better or worse than older versions.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] stargator:
Thank you , checked Wiki downloaded alternate CustomRuu and flashed my HD to the new Radio..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
hard spl or uspl before flash.......
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Agreed! Got 8 satellites fixed within 8 seconds. Battery life over last 24 hours has improved!:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sunish:
did not setup hard spl yet..

uspl is also not working... gives error while installing...

btw, i'm using vista... but updated the old USB drivers,

can that be the problem?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] O and O:
Odd I think my performance has gone down, I get HSDPA less than before! I will try again later.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sunish:
installed hard spl...

had been able to install new radio ROM

its working fine now !
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Glad its all working for ya! ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gfreek:
just been using this radio for day now and can confirm the following improvements over radio 1.12.25.16:-

- Better GPS pickup

- Better Wi-fi pickup

- Better HSDPA Reception

- Battery life slightly better
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
As I hadn't any problems beforehand, I can't talk about any improvements at all. It works great with E-Plus in Germany.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] AndyCr15:
This made me chuckle a little -

So you as good as didn't check anything and then said it doesn'tlook any better or worse :lol: A useful post, thanks.

I watched a film last night, but I had it muted and the TV facing the other way, my review is it was no better or worse than the film I watched last night in the same way...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
lol, very good!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] keopsjo:
It's asking me for a password to unzip. Does it need a password for that? I've tried to look but found nothing.

Can anyone help with this issue?

Thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Edit

Deleted. Wrong thread
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] trice1921:
Same here! In areas where i was gettin 1-2 bars with a H im now getting full bars with a G. Im not noticing any improvements. What radio was you using before this? I think mine was 1.09.25.14.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bram_smulders:
Uh did dutty make this radio? :p

The pass is on first post

Gr. Bram
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Oemie:
I think Radio rom are acting different in different countries.

Maybe it is a good idea, everybody wrights down in which country they are using the rom...

I live in The Netherlands and my 1.113.25.24 rom drained the battery all of a sudden this morning from 45% to 18% in two hours without using the phone.

I held the phone for two or three minutes, and each four/five seconds the % was going down by 1%.

It looked like something (i tried GPS just before) was still active, in the background. SO maybe the GPS wasn't closed properly after using google maps? I don't know..

Now i am charging to 100% and i will continue testing..

My rom is Davideuck v3 (so that's also not the most battery friendly rom, i know that :p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
OMG, what an idiot I am. I have a few internet windows opened at same time and answered to wrong thread....whoops :o

I'll delete previous post!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] EpiphanyNL:
Maybe it's even network dependend
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Live in Ireland

Orange mobile network

ROM - DUTTY Extreme 2.3

GPS in 8 secs fix with 8 satelites fixed.

Reception has improved

Battery Life improved
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] trice1921:
Im in the North West UK on O2.

GPS around the same.

Reception worst, was getting full bars on G where i used to get 2-3 bars on H, browsing and download speeds were slower.

Battery life seemed around the same maybe a little worst.

Switched back to 1.09.25.14 and am now getting 2-3 bars H where i was only getting G on 1.13.25.24 and download speeds have increased.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ardsar:
Live in the SouthWest of England.

GPS - can now get a gps lock in the office where i work - (never been able to do this due to the metal roof)

Signal strength seems very similar to 1.12. I'm on the edge of an HSDPA signal, but can still receive with no problems.

Battery - still testing, but power usage whilst device is switched on seems to be consistent with 1.09 and 1.12

ROM - DUTTY Extreme 2.3
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] 2 die 4:
OK, this is the first post, and I do not see the password here, so if any of you would be kind enough to type the pass here in these post, letter by letter!

Or point out to me where the pass is in the first post!!!?????

THX!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lazy79:
PW:www.xda-china.com

PW = Password:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
used rapidshare link posted from page 4 http://rapidshare.com/files/21273397...1.13.25.24.rar

and never required a password
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Ian_79a:
Hi im trying to flash this radio but having trouble ive done it before so i dont know where im going wrong, Ive flashed duttys HD V2.1 xtreme and radio 1.12.25.16. Running HSPL

but when i try and go into the bootloader it goes straight to the hard rest screen wether or not i have the memory card in or not with the BLACIMG.NBH file on it.

Please help and dont waste your time telling me to go read the WIKI because ive read it, just not sure what im doing wrong this time

thanks in advance

Ian
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
To flash your device from storage card

1. Rename RUU_Signed.nbh to BLACIMG.NBH and copy it to your Storage Card

2. Follow the above steps to go in bootloader

3. A messages will popup, push power button to start flashing or Volume down to cancel

4. After it's done a new message popsup, softreset your device

Have you tried flashing using your usb instead of directly from your SD card?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] 2 die 4:
I`we figured that myself, but what I could`t figure was that the site itself was the password, I just assumed that the pass was on that site!

So, thx for the PW!

I`ll go flashing now ;)

C ya!

THX again!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Ian_79a:
I have tried to flash via the PC but for some reason it restarts my PC errr.

just to confirm when i press the up and down vol key and power button it goes to tri colour screen for a split second and the goes to another screen with reads

This operation will delet all your personal dat, and reset all setting to manufacturer default. pree volup to restore manufacture defailt, or press other keys to cancel.

Now it this what it should be doing? i dont want to lose all my data as i have the phone set up the way i want it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] R4ym0nd:
Try to press only the vol down key and power key.

vol down and up are for hard reset.

only vol down is for bootloader
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] NightOwl692:
I've got the same problem - battery icon always shows 100% no matter what the battery level is. Anybody got any idea how to fix it? However, I don't think it is actually relevant to this post as I'm pretty sure I had the same problem before loading this radio.

This radio seems to give me a connection to HSDPA more often. Thanks to those who cooked it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] NightOwl692:
I've got the same problem - battery icon always shows 100% no matter what the battery level is. Anybody got any idea how to fix it? However, I don't think it is actually relevant to this thread as I'm pretty sure I had the same problem before loading this radio.

This radio seems to give me a connection to HSDPA more often. Thanks to those who cooked it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Ian_79a:
I feel like an idiot. why did i have it in my head i needed to press both :o

all fashed now thank you :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Seven_PRX:
GPS & signal strength don't mean anything to you? Personally, I'm only at 1, max 2 bars of signal strength most of the time - would have loved to see this higher. Next, in-door GPS sounded cool (somebody wrote they now got GPS indoors), but also didn't work. So, the 2 things I was looking for didn't improve.

Next time try to read and keep the smart-ass remarks to yourself please.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tidus18:
1.13.25.24 - Best so far

Country: Malaysia

Network: Maxis

Current Radio: 1.13.25.24

Previous Radio: 1.12.25.16

I can confirm GPS reception indoor(reasonably close to window). Garmin locks 3D position within 10 seconds. By the time the software fully starts and view map is clicked, it has the current position already, ready to navigate. I will post my experience with batt life and signal reception after testing for few hours.

First impression, GREAT!:D:D:D 10 sec for GPS lock...yahoo!! Previously had to wait at least 30 secs...used to blame everything else for poor GPS except my precious HD. Turns out the the previous radio was the culprit.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vincent1:
I go back. The new radio doesn't improve anything on my HD. Seems i'm a lucky guy. Nothing to improve! :) With the first 1.09 radio i have anything i want. Good receiving strength, quick GPS, no problems with battery, wifi, bt. Couldn't share the problems some guys are reporting here.

With the new radio after more than 24h testing the signal strength is definitely lower, battery consumption higher, no GPS bars on my TT version.

It works, ok. But not enough differencies/ improvements to stay on this radio.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] PapaDocta:
how about the voice quality... after installing this update a lot of people say that the voice quality is very bad when i talk to them it's like i'm talking to them from inside a can!! anyone experienced that?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
I noticed no improvement or reduction in quality of voice when I updated to 1.13.25.24
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Blartiartfast:
voice quality was the same here. GPS, much the same. Battery got a proper bumming. down to 50% in 13 hours. no calls at all, 10 sms sent received.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] updown:
Country: Italy

Network Op. : TIM

Current Radio: 1.13.25.24

Previous Radio: 1.10.25.25

GPS FIX better than the other.

Battery life is good.

No improvement in signal stenght.

The only impression i had ... this radio prefer GSM network to UMTS.

In a place with 3G and GMS signal , always stay on GSM.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Xeon:
As I used to say, Radio 1.09 is the best so far. I dont even know why people tend to think that higher version is better. Fact proves they are wrong
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] crypta:
O2 Germany.

Radio before was the 1.09.

GPS fix seems same or slower but more stable in bad situations (like my flat).

reception bars haven't improved, but quality of speech is finaly what I expect from a "mobile phone". keep monitoring this.

battery stamina: testing.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] AllTheWay:
Anybody have the shipped ROM available?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] imtiyazee:
I have tested this Radio and to the best of my experience what i can say that this radio heats back of my phone ever since i started using it. So i have gone back to 1.12 radio, and my phone back is pretty cool.

To me this radio is NOT MY CUP OF TEA.:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] toutatis:
Because higher version generally means better and improved version.

But it's true that everyone may have different experiences.

In my case, 1.10 was really better than 1.09 : better strength signal, better GPS fix.

I've not noticed any improvement with 1.12. For example, no GPS fix inside near windows as others reported. But there was no signal deterioration.

There is now 1.13 and the only way to see if it's better is to flash it.

A major difficulty for comparing radios is that you should have the same ROM in all the tests. As I flash my HD every other week, the results are distorted : the better radio experience may come, fully or in part, from the cooking !
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] P1Tater:
I'm beginning to wonder if there even is a shipped rom. I can't seem to find it anywhere.

If anyone has a link to the rom that this radio was ripped from it would be greatly appreciated.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Xeon:
The only thing i noticed when upgrading the radio to 1.10,12 is that the battery drains faster. However if most testers are confirming that it is not worth upgrading to 1.13 as they did not notice any improvements and following the facts that 1.13 should theoreticly fix 1.12 bugs which was an upgrade from 1.10 or what so ever, I can conclude that all previous versions did not bring that much.

I would also mention that signal strength depends on lots of factors which makes it really hard to affirm that radio version would have a great impact on it.

From my experience, I get a great GPS reception ( needs less than 10 secs for a cold boot, excellent battery performance and a good GSM reception( never thought it would be better, at least way better than my previous Nokia E71 ). Maybe the improvements are made for the UMTS/3G reception but I cannot test that because we still do not have 3G in my country..?! ( yeah Im serious about that) . Maybe we should start a thread or Poll to see which Radio version performed the best.

PS : I tested all of them with standard stock ROM 1.14.488.3 WWE (MEA ). I dont feel like upgrading until I find a good ROM BUG FREE.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Oemie:
Hmm just came home and i have used the phone for 10 hours now...All day i recieved hdsap all day. Mail check every hour, maybe 15 minutes internet surfing, 7 calls (together 15 min)...Battery is at 71% right now.

I think battery drops slowly till 49% and then it is gone to 10% in two hours...but i will continue..Gps receive is very good (Google maps in maybe 5 seconds)..But that was also with my stock radio, maybe this one is slightly better in all categories...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MC King S:
Sorry but whats a Radio???. I cuttrently have L26's rom v9
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tboy2000:
I have big problem with this new radio. Constanlty getting connection dismissed and connection problems and also fast battery drop. I too held the phone in my hands and watched the percentage drop from 34% to 26% before my very eyes in a 5 minute span. If want to to flash the previous rom, can I do so even though it is lower?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] AndyCr15:
You 'didn't notice' any change in 2 things, you yourself listed 4 things you didn't check in any way and then proclaimed the whole radio to be no different.

Next time keep your pointless posts 'to yourself please'

:p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Seven_PRX:
You have some issues reading I think. My post wasn't pointless, I pointed out that 2 things (2 important things: GPS & reception) didn't improve (for me).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
lets keep this strictly on topic thanks:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Xeon:
Which radio version performed the best for you ? was it the 1.12 or 1.09 ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dr.Tenma:
Hello, can somebody port this radio to Diamond ? Thank's !
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] svjetlonosa:
Test result of new radio

radio 1.13.25.24

Improvment in GPS

Battery for 2 day drop from 100% to 85%, talked about 2 hour

In ROM Dutty HD 2.3 disabled manila. Garmin 5.00.20 work ok. Much faster sattelite lock.

PS. After any flash ROM or radio i make hard reset. I'm not installing HTC patch because it's drain battery or kill tuner on GSM.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henv:
HD User i went to the wiki page, but i think the text is not correct. Red text is the right text

1.13.25.24 / 52.62.25.34U

Dowload 1.12.25.16 Radio only Rapidshare

* Radio Thread

1.12.25.16 / 52.60.25.33

Dowload 1.12.25.16 Radio only Rapidshare

But it must be (edited it with red)

1.13.25.24 / 52.62.25.34U

Dowload 1.13.25.24 Radio only Rapidshare

* Radio Thread

1.12.25.16 / 52.60.25.33

Dowload 1.12.25.16 Radio only Rapidshare
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Avalun:
How much is you wireless lan latency from your pc to the HD?

i have in my case:

Ping wird ausgeführt für 10.3.6.99 mit 32 Bytes Daten:

Antwort von 10.3.6.99: Bytes=32 Zeit=219ms TTL=128

Antwort von 10.3.6.99: Bytes=32 Zeit=31ms TTL=128

Antwort von 10.3.6.99: Bytes=32 Zeit=54ms TTL=128

Antwort von 10.3.6.99: Bytes=32 Zeit=76ms TTL=128

which is very much.

how can I optimize this?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] schlitzohr1812:
We still need RILPHONE for 1.13.25.24 / 52.62.25.34U

Anybody??? :)

greetz
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] djskaw:
i got this aswell
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
What excactly is Rilphone for?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] The_Steph:
Rilphone is basically the dictionnary that understands all the functionnalities of the Radio ROM.

If new functionnalities have been added to your new Radio ROM, not using the according rilphone.dll can make you simply not being able to use them since your mobile phone's OS does not understand them.

More info here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3508408&postcount=356

The_Steph
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Ok, thanks.

Just another question: Where are these drivers come from? Are they shipped with the rom, or is there more magic about it?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] The_Steph:
I do think that rilphone.dll are shipped within a mobile phone OS with a matching version radio ROM. We need to have the rilphone.dll from the phone we had the 1.13.25.24 radio ROM from.

Unfortunately I've never seen any magic with MS/HTC yet.

The_Steph
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] K_Hismoom:
Everyone can edit the wiki. So please go ahead and correct it, if it's wrong.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
....and while your at it, change dowload to download
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henv:
done

done, i dont knew that everybody was allowed to change.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] JLowe:
Well I can give only this advice concerning the battery:

Never use the HD while plugged in electricity. Always use it until the battery is very low 5%, then recharge.

My battery life is now much much better. Also with the new Radio & Duttys 2.3 much , much better battery life.

Also always make a hard reset after upgrading your rom and never restore prgrams from a backup. Also don't use too many programs insralled while testing the battery life.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] AndyCr15:
Hmm, I thought someone else advised not to let the battery run too low? Anyone else comment one way or the other?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Budadank:
Been using this radio for a couple of days now and so far it is impressive. Battery life seems to have improved but can't say for sure as I have been flashing a few different ROMs. HSDPA reception is definitely better and I now get low strength H where I used to get high strength E.

I am most of all impressed with the improvements in GPS. As others have reported, I am getting 9 or 10 satellite fixes indoors within a few seconds. I was concerned about not seeing sattelite strength bars in TTN7 but after reading this thread that has been explained away.

Overall very impressed.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] manuelwt:
Does anyone know if this new radio is working well in London??