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[G1 Android Development] wizern23:
yea google wants what they wants the features they want out when they are ready.
[G1 Android Development] koxx:
Other languages than english could be a good reason.........
[G1 Android Development] PAO1908:
Yes, correct. Im also on H, and I really think about to change to G because I miss german spelling that was really helpfull when you misstype something on your VK.
[G1 Android Development] wizern23:
because at a point it had more features then h. i went to H for the prettiness, the camera, and the handwriting recognition. i dont upload to youtube so i didnt care about that feature at all.
[G1 Android Development] MontAlbert:
well, i was hoping it was a USA thing but in australia i cant dl any apps on 5.0G. bugger. i can wait until friday i suppose and switch to the new H version then..... i was just happy with this build....

don't suppose you can flash data.img from G version to H ?
[G1 Android Development] userfriendlyme:
found the thread where u can restore using the phone terminal instead of the pc.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=498026&page=413
[G1 Android Development] sino8r:
Ah, thats what I thought... the widgets, the extras. Its a space thing. Well, I doubt Google blocked market access for the G builds. if they were that concerned, they could have blocked models with root access. I really doubt the market can tell what build your device has. its got to be something else.
[G1 Android Development] userfriendlyme:
I would like to agree but it seems everyone with G can not download i think somehow google is able to block maybe the magic build from using certian servers seeing how it will be coming out in certian areas with a different carrier at first. I cant seem to think of any other reason why on my G phone i can't but the one i have H on i can out of the clear blue.

PS google this is a good way to get people pissed off and hacking into your protected apps just to install them outside the market......open source is open for a reason.
[G1 Android Development] wizern23:
You have to remember that we really arent suppose To have the firmware yet. No thats not a goo. Reason to do it but they did.

And to the person who said y arent thet blocking root users. Its because they cant tell who has root besides for the adp phones.
[G1 Android Development] userfriendlyme:
Well if its open source and your using the provided code its even posted on the google code site so its not a secret and to be honest where doing more the leg work by giving them free testing. im sure someones over at google looking like yeah they got this to work lets implement there fix or wow i didnt know it could perform that lets include this in OS. i mean come on already blocking the tether apps was enough for me to see this isnt and open source project.
[G1 Android Development] bommel0815:
that just means you don't know what "open source" means. It is not "do what you want" it is just "you can look at the source code"....not more, really.

There are open source licenses that are more open and some are less so, but open source is just that, you can see the source code. It doesn't even mean you are allowed to use it for anything per se.

And the tethering thing happened because with tmobile contract it is simply not allowed. They solved the issue for non-tmobile customers quickly. And it just was about the market, you could still download APKs to the phone directly.

As a developer I fully understand why they are blocking inoffical clients from their services. It is just a scenario that is not tested and while it most likely is no problem at all, it is saver from an engineering perspective.

No one ever sold you the G1 and promised you that you can run whatever firmware you want on it. Running custom firmwares on non-ADP phones is a hack. And google has no obligation at all to support that. don't be so naive, please.
[G1 Android Development] bommel0815:
It could also just be unintentional. Maybe they just changed stuff around in the market system to accomodate phones with both firmware versions and added a detection system so developers can label their apps compatible with 1.1 and 1.5 or just 1.1 or just 1.5 or whatever. It might be just a setting that the 1.5G build is currently inactive in the market because it is not needed yet. except by us :)

don't always go for the conspiracy thing, it can have simple technical reasons and us few hundred over here are really not significant at all.
[G1 Android Development] userfriendlyme:
well the G1 is no different then any other winmo phone ive altered. allot of things didnt come on the box when i purchased my G1. Naive no but the point is how the OS was advertised as open IMO is misleading. If anything as a developer you should be happy to have apps being tested on the new firmware even if its not the official release. it would seem to me to give you a heads up and i dont see how it would effect your bottom line. even with the magic software i still purchased apps....isnt that the point??
[G1 Android Development] userfriendlyme:
none of the apps download not just certian ones none of them. If was a matter of it detecting 1.1 and 1.5 the H would then be effected somehow from downloading as well. i think theres a little more to it. im sorry if im not a google fanboy all the way but its just my opinion.
[G1 Android Development] bommel0815:
no thats not really the point. It doesn't really matter if a few over motivated geeks can't buy apps for a while (include me here...).

It is open, that doesn't mean that there are no rules. It might try to detect the version not by 1.1 and 1.5 but by "Sapphire" and "Dream" or something like that. We just don't know.
[G1 Android Development] userfriendlyme:
well im sure either way even though you make valid points that it will be worked out one way or another. theres always a work around and people willing to find one. i think in the mean time H will be real popular til its corrected
[G1 Android Development] MontAlbert:
why not just ditch G and port the good things from G over to H and only have a single build? unless someone figures out an easy fix for this market issue.
[G1 Android Development] userfriendlyme:
has anyone done the restore succesfully yet. I cant seem to get either method to work.
[G1 Android Development] predo:
I've just flashed 5.0.1G and my calendar keeps force closing as soon as I click on it, it doesn't want to sync and multiple restarts did not help.

Any ideas anyone?

edit: I've also noticed there is no paid apps on the market!!!
[G1 Android Development] Rix:
Argh damn, I thought somebody would of found a fix to the market issue by the time I woke up.

Guess i'll have to go to 5.0.2H
[G1 Android Development] predo:
Ok after another wipe calendar started working eventually so its just the market thats busted...

http://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/issues/detail?id=131
[G1 Android Development] nabzilla1990:
worked

it worked thank you
[G1 Android Development] kakadeluxe:
I need all menus in Spanish

The ROM Haykuro´s 5.0.XX has the Spanish language?.

Thank you.
[G1 Android Development] userfriendlyme:
the recovery process is completely retarted someone really needs to get a better thread up with instructions on it. I said hell with it and just installed everything over again but its really a pain if someone could post one with links for the stuff you need especially with the new drivers being released im clueless and still couldnt get any of the drivers to see my phone once it was in fastboot. I sure hope the list of improvements on friday arent that much becasue i dont want to keep doing this and having to deal with the awfull recovery steps arrghhh
[G1 Android Development] koxx:
version v5.0.xG :yes !
[G1 Android Development] jriley60:
haykuro

anyone heard from haykuro? webpage or twitter hasn't been updated.
[G1 Android Development] TunsterX2:
Haykuro does have a life you know. The latest is that he'll be updating builds on Friday's so he can work on bug fixes. Now version 5 of both G and H are out, I guess the builds will take a slower pace than before.
[G1 Android Development] khoaitaychienvn:
he said every uupdate is now every FRIDAY!!!!
[G1 Android Development] jriley60:
oh

i know he has a life. i didn't see him say that on his twitter or anything, and i quit following this thread at like page 200 when every 12 year old started posting:p so i was just curious....thanks for the update though
[G1 Android Development] bestwebs:
Hi,

I can download also on 5.02h

Both free or paid apps.

I just downloaded an Electric Shaver. :D

Also someone mentioned this earlier, I cannot download packman either from the market.

I can install it from my backup but it does not work correctly on 5.02h.

Not a big deal to me.

:)
[G1 Android Development] chicojd:
First... /system/sd/app/app is a problem. the copy command (busybox cp -a) is too long... here's the syntax:

busybox cp -a /data/app /system/sd

busybox rm -r /data/app

busybox ln -s /system/sd/app /data/app

That's the correct syntax of the set of commands to move files to SD. Before you do that, make sure you've run a busybox df -h and make sure you see an entry for /system/sd. if you have that, you're ready to move your apps.
[G1 Android Development] funbacon:
there are 3 source to build new FW:

- Google source (4.5, 5.0G,5.0.1G)

- HTC sapphire phone US source (4.9)

- HTC sapphire phone Chunghwa source (5.0H,5.01H,5.0.2H)

1. You can see that Chunghwa source is very poor. It's only good for Chinese man. It base on Google source with old rotate effect, old widget interface and comes with ****ing Chunghwa widget.

2. Google source comes with bad interface bad camera and bad Virtual keyboard and do not support market any more

3. US source is awesome with good camera, good rotate effect, good keyboard, good widget interface

I don't know why Haykuro added Google source and ****ing Chunghwa source to his project. I remember that we got HTC sapphire US FW from one member in this forum and Haykuro started his awesome job, I hope he will NOT add anything to his project anymore. US FW is awesome, just porting it to HTC dream.
[G1 Android Development] userfriendlyme:
ok well i didnt think the H version was bad at all but the G build is great with the exception now that google has blocked it and you cant download apps from the market. I also think haykuro working on both of them was a good idea for one if he hadn't we totally be screwed right now and also because look at how many people downloaded it......they love that version. its all a matter of having the choice of what you want to use and i think he did a great job doing that.
[G1 Android Development] rsfaze:
I just flashed 5.01G and when I went to redownload my apps, my downloads history is empty. I went to install Klaxon again and its prompting me to pay for it again!

Anyone run into this? I was pretty sure the downloads were tied to your phone number/sim!?

thanks, awesome performance increase and the little features are nice.
[G1 Android Development] userfriendlyme:
you may want to read some of the prior postings......it appears the G build is blocked....:(
[G1 Android Development] jriley60:
well i personally love the h build and since the chinese widgets and dialer are gone don't have any issue with it. market still works fine too. dxtop won't let me select a theme but eh can't have everything
[G1 Android Development] userfriendlyme:
someone told me that dxtop now you cant change the themes via long press on the home screen i think you have to go through the dxtop setting. i have to reinstall it to try but i was told its been moved by another member.
[G1 Android Development] xyrcncp:
Well, this blows...kinda...I'm not crazy about downloading applications left and right, but for updates and such, us running the G build are pretty much SOL. For example, there is an update for the My Account T-Mobile application, I can't get it because of this block.

Oh well, I still like the G build. I did re-install a couple of applications from the backed up apks I had, but some worked (Task Manager) and some didn't (Shake Awake and Mixzing)
[G1 Android Development] Jrbourque:
Well i guess i will have to wipe and go over to the h build. If im not mistaken the whole chinese thing was fixed on the h build correct? and damn google blocking **** because they are too slow to get it out
[G1 Android Development] Gimpeh:
FYI, It appears you can download paid apps in the market on G builds. I just purchased the appstosd app and it downloaded fine but everything else that is free did not. It wouldnt make sense for google to block free apps and not paid apps too. I think this is just some glitch.
[G1 Android Development] cl2eep:
So Google has blocked G from the market?! I don't see how that would be possible, how could they tell one of us from a normal Magic user? If we really are blocked, I'm guessing that it is more TMobile's doing than Google's
[G1 Android Development] JLundberg:
Hey there,

First off, please don't hurt me or start throwing things at me... I did look for this and started getting a bit confused.

I think I understand what appstosd is and why it's important. now to the question. the builds that have that in the name are they for sd cards that are already setup for this or does this build set that up automatically? I installed 5.0.2H-appstosd on my G1 that was not previously set for appstosd, it works fo far but I was wondering if I need to go ahead and do the busybox thing.

Again, sorry for being such a noob on this.

John
[G1 Android Development] xyrcncp:
Yeah, that would make no sense. I guess for now we can blame it on the Market and not it being a "blocked" issue.
[G1 Android Development] Jrbourque:
i dont get why only people with g build would be having this problem and not anyone else that has jf, or not rooted or the h build
[G1 Android Development] funbacon:
H version is very good, but I hate H version using Chunghwa source
[G1 Android Development] rsfaze:
thanks, what's weird is I've installed ahome, open home, bettercut and a few others. So some apps will install others won't. Missed call has been trying to download now for 10 mins but there is no progress. Strange it seems hit and miss on what apps will download on the G version.
[G1 Android Development] Baldyman1966:
Guys, just a quick thought. If this glitch or block or whatever it is affects only G Builds then we on the H builds can download the apps, and back them up (with a suitable backup app) and then provide them to our Marketless comrades.

Please note I am advocating this for FREE APPS ONLY. Doing this for Paid Apps would be piracy.
[G1 Android Development] cl2eep:
I'm almost positive that this is some other issue besides us being blocked from the market, there has to be another reason the market isn't working. Till then, we can go without the market or flash to H. Damn, I just got settled into this build too.
[G1 Android Development] rsfaze:
I'm on the G build, I can access the market with no issues, I am able to see free and paid apps, but I'm not going to buy apps I already purchased. if it would let me install missed home and a few other free apps, I'd be happy until there is an official release of the updated firmware.
[G1 Android Development] Algernon:
Tossing in my 2 cents here, but I've been running 5.0.2H apps-to-sd since Sunday & got my sd simlinks fixed Monday afternoon.

The entire time I've been on 5.0.2H the apps I've installed have not been showing up under "My Downloads" in the Market. Last night I was having a hard time getting into the Market at all, and just went to bed and tried it again this morning. I got to the Market fine, then went to work. Suddenly, about an hour ago, everything I've installed since Monday just appeared in the Market and they're showing "Installed" in the Applications lists.

I'm thinking that they're either updating the Market or there's a glitch. I doubt that there's some vast conspiracy to block out the G builds, because that really doesn't make any sense.

Oh, and I notice that it's currently taking a long time for the Application icons to load in the lists, too.
[G1 Android Development] nickmgray:
As promised, I was finally able to get my blog post up about the HTC walkthrough. It's not all inclusive, but should give people a good idea of what to expect: http://htcsource.com/index.php/Android/HTC-s-Magic-Andrid-build-walkthrough.html

Also, one of my readers suggested I post a video to show off he recording quality. While doing so, I noticed there is a sahre to YouTube option that I don't think has been talked about much: http://htcsource.com/index.php/Andr...uality-test-with-HTC-Magic-Android-Build.html

And here's the link to the Google build walkthrough: http://htcsource.com/index.php/Android/Sapphire/Magic-Android-build-on-T-Mobile-G1.html
[G1 Android Development] Baldyman1966:
The question is not if you can see them, can you download them?
[G1 Android Development] AbsoluteDesignz:
I'd be 100% fine if I could get my data.img to flash over my G build...

whenever I try it it stays stuck on the G1 screen...anyone know anything i could do?
[G1 Android Development] nolageek:
You can see them, but can you download them? I can see all apps in the market as well on G, I just can't download anything.
[G1 Android Development] jdwme:
I'm having the same issue, free apps don't download from the market on the G build, I thought I was just going crazy :)
[G1 Android Development] bigballa:
hello once again

so i installed the latest h build with apps2sd and i worked throught the wiki haykuro posted on his blog

i followed everyone thing from the Setup in 5.0.1 onwards part

when i first rebooted my phone i opened up useful switchers and saw that i had 47 out of 74mb available

after downloading 32 apps i check useful switchers again and it went down to 34 mb

i havent even opened up an application yet

does anyone know whats going on??
[G1 Android Development] bofslime:
I'm running 5.0.1G and have no issue getting to the market, and downloading apps.

Edit: Strike that, I was downloading before, seems stalled now. I just tried downloading some random app, and its not downloading.

I did however update Astro from the market last night. Been running 5.0.1G for the past 3 days.
[G1 Android Development] AbsoluteDesignz:
man...this market issue is clouding my issue...

lol.
[G1 Android Development] rsfaze:
Ive been able to download openhome ,advanced home, better cut and some other apps. So far I can't download missed call and some others. Missed call starts to download but never goes anywhere. I left it alone for about 10 minutes and it never downloaded anything, just gave the status bar stating "starting download"
[G1 Android Development] dialekt:
is the dot included on the end? or was that just the period/end of sentence?

(in reference to the mms proxy settings)
[G1 Android Development] xyrcncp:
I doubt it, it is an IP address, it shouldn't have anything after it.
[G1 Android Development] chicojd:
I can see all the apps, start a download, have breakfast, come back and it STILL hasn't started downloading!!! GOOGLE! What the HELL!? I think they have blocked us. Hate to be a conspiracy theorist, but I think they have.
[G1 Android Development] LPChris:
Does the 5.0.1G release not have Exchange support built in? I can't find where to configure it.
[G1 Android Development] MarcusMaximus04@gmail.com:
Hmm terminal emulator was sitting in "starting download" for about 9 hours and just finished installing lol, I think they might be upgrading the market to prepare for cupcake or something? Would also clarify why it seems to be cupcake builds having all the problems
[G1 Android Development] nolageek:
I was able to download until around 9 or 10 last night... after that, nothing.
[G1 Android Development] ThaBadBoy:
I am having this exact same problem.

Almost makes it pointless of backing up the data before you switch roms.

Hopefully someone can point out the problem.
[G1 Android Development] Baldyman1966:
Just a thought as to what this could be. With the 1.5 SDK out there may be apps coming out that wont run on older firmware (ie uses the video camera) just as we know there are apps that don't work with 1.5. Could google be planning to have the market only allow downloads that are suitable for your build. This would not really kick in now as we know 1.5 will run on 1.0 hardware, but what if in the future 2.0 comes out which has features incompattible with 1.0.

This is just a thought, but it avoids the idea that google are blocking us on purpose. After all there are no OFFICiAL 1.5 phones available yet.
[G1 Android Development] KPeriod:
Yeah I had the same problem. Downloads worked fine on my 5.0G up until about 10 last night when they'd all get stuck on "Starting Download". Haven't tried them again yet today.
[G1 Android Development] AbsoluteDesignz:
I'm trying to avoid making a noobish thread.
[G1 Android Development] rsfaze:
this sounds about right, the last app I added was from last night, this morning nothing. Starting to sound like google has us blocked some how.
[G1 Android Development] bommel0815:
what I said. Could just be an unintended side effect of a firmware version check for the market.
[G1 Android Development] Jrbourque:
I just downloaded the 5.0.2H build (because of the market issue) wiped flashed wiped everything is working fine but i thought that the chinese was removed from the dialer and i still have it on my phone
[G1 Android Development] knaries2000:
market 5G

does any one with 5H know how to use logcat with adb?

Here is what I get when I try to download anything from market with 5G

W/vending ( 1600): com.android.vending.BaseConfirmSubActivity$1.handleRequest(): unknown requestId: 446

unknown requestId: 446? I don't know what that is yet, anyone know.

anyone with 5H installed with adb could you run this command and see if you see a simliar warning msg in the logs :

adb logcat *:W

maybe when I get a chance I will flash 5H and do that but if someone here can do it and see what the log is like may help.
[G1 Android Development] bigballa:
im running 5.0.2h and i have been able to dl apps with no problems at all

im running on tmobile

and using the wifi connection

it doesnt work through my 3g connection:confused:

it works through wifi though

awkward

but ive been on wifi and dling almost 45 apps all at once
[G1 Android Development] Gimpeh:
If its a firmware check then the fix should be easy. Haykuro applied a similer fix for the paid apps support when our roms were being recognized as Dev phones. Perhaps he can be our savior again.
[G1 Android Development] reuthermonkey:
Because some of us don't like H. I think the H keyboard looks ugly. H is buggy. The rotation is inferior. The camera on G performs better.

I'm not going to use a chinese-targeted build that I have to mess around with to get good functionality out of when I can use an english-targeted build that works great out of the box, and doesn't have performance as an afterthought. At least as long as I don't have to...
[G1 Android Development] dwang:
Haykuro changed the build.prop to allow protected paid apps. The version of build.prop in H and G are almost the same (using the H build.prop on G doesn't fix the issue), so the google must be checking some other parameter that is different between H and G. Not sure what that is right now.
[G1 Android Development] mrcrb:
I am also looking for it and didn't find anything, yet.
[G1 Android Development] kundica:
Something to note. The "Build number" reads differently for G and H builds under "about phone" in settings. I just check both builds on my phone to verify.

H reads "kila-user 1.1 PLAT-RC33 126986 ota-rel-keys,release-keys"

G build just reads "PLAT-RC33"

I'm not sure why this is happening, especially since the build.prop files for both read the same.
[G1 Android Development] koxx:
no way to snif http packets sent by android market on both versions ?
[G1 Android Development] xyrcncp:
Haykuro made it into Boy Genius Report!:

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/04/15/google-too-slow-for-you-get-cupcake/