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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] assangflexx:
HTC advance introduction Touch Pro2 By Willem the moire, Tuesday 7 April 2009 18:44, views: 10,141

During TeleVisie2009-beurs is the apparition date in the Benelux for the Touch the Pro2, new mobile device of the Taiwanese HTC, confessed. The smartphone comes earlier than expects on the market. The continuator of the Touch pro rather than expects end up: an employee of HTC let Tweakers.net during TeleVisie2009-beurs know that the smartphone will appear in the middle of May on the Dutch and Belgian market. Rather, during the introduction of the smartphone in Barcelona, HTC on an apparition of the smartphone gambled at the beginning of the summer. A price wants to the marketing employee of HTC does not let slip itself, but in Barcelona the introduction price were valued on approximately 600 euro. (Now almost 800 Dollars)

THE HTC Touch Pro2 including concerning a display device with a diagonal of 3,6" to have and gets an extending keyboard. The smartphone can be provided, when this control system to be brought out, with Windows Mobile 6.5. According to HTC Pro2 the last smartphone will be that it is equipped with Qualcomms on 528MHz twisting MSM7200A-processor. The remaining specifications of the smartphone are among others 512MB rom-geheugen and 288MB RAM, which can become increased by means of sdhc-kaarten. Usb, wireless networks and bluetooth connections as well as hsdpa take the connectivity for account, where as 3.2 megapixelcamera, gps-reciever wind up and a radioradio radio the featureset. 1500mAh-accu the smartphone approximately two weeks in standby must keep, where as approximately seven hours on a full accumulator can be rung.

Got this from a Dutch Website And Translated trough Babelfish. Sorry for bad english in it...

http://tweakers.net/nieuws/59481/htc-vervroegt-introductie-touch-pro2.html
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ajbopp:
Thanks for this!

Here's a translation that's a little more clear.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orb3000:
Thanks for the info

600 Euro, hope final price goes low...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Poke_N_PDA:
At first I thought it was saying the ram could be increased then I realized it was just talking about the MicroSD slot. Also, what's up with the ram size conflicts. I know it's nothing major, but on says 288MB and another says 256MB. Is that the differece in size definition?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] zarpy:
contracts

Well Iam sure you all are happy the new touchpro2 has arrived for you guys. It better late than never. As far as price the phone is old by now so they should be giving you a discount if you get the 2-year contract.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mhurg:
Check out the date of the original post mate ;)

7th April 2009.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ridolfo:
What came late is your reaction to this topic; it's a year old. ;)

Edit: Hmmm, posting from my device is apparently too slow.:o
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] zarpy:
too uptight

Relax I was just joking guys!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mhurg:
Riiiiiiiight!
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] THE GRIZZ:
the problem with the default x1 camera application:

-very big application with very slow startup time

-very slow interface

-require too many clicks to change the mode or the settings

now im not asking to make a full fledged camera application as that would take too much time. i am asking for a very simple and lightwaight camera application that can simply start right away into sports mode with infinite focus and flash as this seems like the quickest and most practical

shooting mode on our X1. or simply start to the last used mode in the SE camera app

i just want to have a very quick way to to take good pics.

on my old 2003 magican it takes me only 2-3 seconds to quickly start the application and take the first pic. on the xperia it takes no less the a ridicoulus 7 seconds because of the camera application.
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] Cutefox:
i find the rhodium's camera to be quick and good quality.. but when there is light sometime could get overexposed lock until u take another pic.. but definitely heaps faster than SE camera.. drawback also is u cant use the camera button to use rhodium..
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] fatso485:
maybe someone can do a quick one by porting one of the old apps like the ones that come with the htc wizard/magican. these cameras apps are very small and they startup in a second
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] michaelthemage:
Actually I think if one want a 'simple' camera, get a 'simple phone'!

For me, I would like a camera that WORKS 100%! So whatever the features, as long as they work fast and correct, that is what I want!
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] THE GRIZZ:
you are TOTALLY missing the point. what i am proposing is in not to replace the camera but to have an additional one that can start and take a good pic in about 2 seconds instead of about 7 seconds right now

this would greatly increase the practicality and usefulness of the camera
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] michaelthemage:
Aha.... you want a 2nd(!) camera because of a 5 second difference....!

Well, as for me, I want a camera that works and records without pixelation, etc. as the current one does!
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] ring-bearer:
I'm with the GRIZZ. 5 seconds often makes all the difference, especially when you have bought a phone specifically so that you can have a decent camera on you at all times.

A lightweight camera app would be fantastic but I suspect it would take some pretty fancy programming to make work.
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] THE GRIZZ:
im not sure about that our xperia runs the 'HD or rhodium cameras fine. also the very old imate kjam runs the relativly new touch viva camera on some of the new cooked roms.

how hard can it be to to simply port a very small and old camera application like the one that comes with the magican or wizard.

defenatly worth a try but unfortunatly im no good at programing or even hacking. anybody willing to give this a shot?
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] THE GRIZZ:
why are you expecting it to be pixely or blury. its using the same hardware at as the SE camera application the end of the day. if the app boots to the sport mode with infinite focus (the faststest and best mode SE camera does anyway)it should be able to take very good pics. infact you will be able to take better pics because you will now be able to take 3 pics in the same time that normally takes you 1 picture with the default camera

of course the ultimite solution is for sony to make a much faster camera but i wouldnt hold my breath for that. their newer camera application with gps and autoflash is even slower than the original application which was also slow

i say we make a proof of concept first before we judge the practicality of this.
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] darkgenic:
I totally agree on the importance of speed on phone camera's. The main reason to have one on a

phone

is to take swift pictures on the fly when you don't have a digital camera at hand but want to capture the moment.

In my humble opinion, if you want super quality pictures, get a digital camera, thats what they're for. On a phone i prefer speed rather than quality. (not saying Xperia doesnt take decent pictures (; )
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] derliebewolf:
In new custom ROMs (as in mine, check sig) the cam takes only 2secs to start and focus is very fast! I don't know how the R3A Cam behaves if used as cab...but cooked in it is very fast!!
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] THE GRIZZ:
2 seconds to get a picture taken is more than what i am asking for. and if the default focus is set to infinite it should take even less (or even no) time for focus

currnty its taking me about 7 seconds to be able to take a picture on Udk's rom

ill go and test your rom

thanks
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] Ganondolf:
i copied and pasted the rs camera folder over the old one and put it on auto focus and auto flash and it seems a lot faster, maybe not 2 secs fast but faster than the old software
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] ring-bearer:
Let us know what you find.

Otherwise, shouldn't there be a cab floating around from one of the simpler HTC camera apps? Why not just try one of those?

Someone could also experiment with Speedbooster 2 and assign the camera to top priority. I would but I don't have it.
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] radhoo:
Yes, I think that would work.

You only need to improve the speed of camera.exe or the name of the camera process, and it should go faster.

The good thing is that the trial version allows you to control one task, so this is exactly what you need.

Cab here.

How-to-do-it Video demo here.
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] ring-bearer:
Doesn't work on my device... not sure why. It loaded the 1st time but then never again, even after reinstalls. Strange...
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] flext:
flash one of itjes roms...

they contain the htc topaz/rhodium camera...

it takes pictures instantly and is the same quality as the stock camera
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] fatso485:
i flashed so many roms and while the speed of the startup and taking the first picture is not too bad, its still much slower than what can be achived if it was a simpler & lighter application.

the fastest i managed to get was about 5 seconds on the rohdium camera
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] radhoo:
And how fast would that be if you increase the .exe process of the camera to maximum priority?
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] Groundzer0:
I'm using a diamond and I'm happy with the default camera speed.
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] THE GRIZZ:
on itje 5.061 rom it takes me about 6 seconds (with speedbooster trick) untill the first picture is taken. is there something that can be done to improve the SE boot speed ? how about finding ways to:

1- disable the splash camera screen

2- disable shutter sound

3- preload some of the camera application in memory before running it. like opera mobile on some new ROM to load faster

overall most of us here are happy with the camera its just that it takes a bit more time than it should untill its ready for it to take its first picture. this was not a problem on old phones because the camera application was much simpler and smaller
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] fatso485:
that was with the booster. the difference is about a second
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] THE GRIZZ:
seems that the latest camera http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=506569 starts faster
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] wieg86:
you are a very unpleasant person, to be honest. Your opinion differs from grizz's. That's all. You think everybody thinks like you, well no. However, you're not the only one. There are more people like you on xdadevelopers. Grizz, I'm with you too. Now, to get bach on topic, I whould like a simple and fast cam as well. My little daughter does hundreds of funny things but I'm always to late.

Hopefully it will arrive someday soon.

Wieger
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] THE GRIZZ:
the whole point of this video is to show how fast it takes the HTC SNAP can take pictures. devs really need to look into this its cant be that hard

http://www.wmexperts.com/htc-snap-its-fast
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] Ganondolf:
it is indeed fast but it may not capture very good pics. the x1 camera (using the r3 camera software) is slower but the pics turn out very nice.
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] daiash:
i agree, R3 Cam software is really good quality but it is slow.......
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] THE GRIZZ:
as explained earlier. there is a great need for a secondary camera application that can take very quick good pictures. right now it takes 6 seconds to take a picture (and thats on a fast rom)

if a developer can make a tiny camera application or port one of the old qvga camera applications

i think the new camera application starts in sport mode with infite focus we can have the best of both worlds
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] lp640:
Well it all depends what your doing at the time ! If i'm in a rush trying to take a pic of something quick before it goes (like a Ferrari or an Aston Martin for example :) ) I might activate the camera and push the screen then other random apps open up and the camera closes and then I gotta do it again but by that time its gone.

but if the new camera app you had in mind of developing is just as good interface as the current Xperia X1 Camera but with a faster start time then go right ahead ! :)
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] Xperrier:
there is no way to compare a phone using a camera, like 3.2 megapixel from Xperia, and a Lumix camera plenty of pixels even raw, and splendid quality....

For myself, until I grab my phone, unlock it, press or adjust focus or exposure, my subject is gone....

but, for both machine, the same trouble, very hard to see when the subject is in full sun, or very bright light, that we did not have with a normal old camera, not digital, and now, pictures are with softwares correcting almost everything, ar, in a way, no more real pictures, too perfect, to beautiful, evne the bad or very bad one, we could correct it....
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] vampiresmind:
Use Advanced Configuration Software

Well yes the default camera is very slow to load and takes a while to click the pics.I used the advanced configuration software where you can change almost every setting of your experia. Its a very handy software to use,Found it on this website itself i have attached it and hope this will solve the problem of the camera. At least it did solve mine.
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] m1le5:
how can this help solve the camera? I did every tweak in the book on advcd confid, and my camera is still laggy as. I always have mine in sport mode, which works well on some roms but not others. I think a good rom helps: My r3a camera works pretty fast (im runnig one of itje's newest) The rhodium is quick as hell too!!!once its booted the pictures are great! Try closing all applications, taking it off fine shot or reducing megapixels! Or if you have speed booster, some recond increasing camera.exe or similar in processes boosts speed.
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] vampiresmind:
Well in the setting of the Advancedconfig there is a tweak for the camera, out there change the click time in milliseconds as per your desire and am sure the camera will take pics faster than earlier.
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] VNMenIeu:
How you do that???
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] Bikram:
HTC camera

Hi

does anybody knows where I can find HTC .cab for Xperia? (I did use the search function)

The HTC camera is fast and has more option than Xperia. (like Panaromic pics.)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kekelen:
Hi,

i want to connect a usb modem to my tytn2 so i can use the modem for my internet connection.

The modem is a one where you put a simcard in to it.

The simcard can also be placed in the tynt but the phone function will not work, so that is why i wont to connect the modem to my tytn.

sorry for my bad english

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] htc-8925:
USB modem to Kaiser(TyTN II)

no, you cant connect a modem to a device that is a modem, you must either use wireless LAN(Wi-Fi) or upgrade your ROM to one that has a functioning Telephony driver(you said the phone function didn't work):cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ADB100:
This isn't possible as far as I know. Can you not merge the two GSM contracts into one? Or at least get the Data service enabled on the SIM in your phone?

Alternatively you could connect the 'modem' to your PC and connect via ActiveSync.

The company I work for has just realised there is a saving to be had by enabling Data services on phones and not just buying USB GSM modems with additional SIM cards/contracts. Its taken then a couple of years to realise though....

Andy
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kilrah:
He has one SIM that does phone only, and another SIM that does data only, so it's pretty normal that when he has the "Data" SIM in the phone he can't talk anymore ;)

Yes the 2 contracts should be merged if possible, but sadly not all operators will do that for stupid commercial reasons... like mine does have an unlimited data offer but only on an independent contract with its own SIM, and it's not possible to have it on a regular phone contract... :mad:

Maybe a dual-SIM holder? OK you still can't call when you're on data, but at least you don't have to turn off, swap SIM, turn on again each time...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] panjote:
ok, maybe im being stupid but think this should somehow be possible. as this is "kind-of-pc" is there such thing as a multi system boot loader? what i mean is for example i want to be able to install two different roms on two differnt ""partitions" and be able to choos which one to boot when i power on the phone. doable or am i just making up stories?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] supasye:
i was thinking about the same thing the other day actually.. but when it came to posting it i forgot what i was going to post.. hard times..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] maati:
no, there isn't :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] panjote:
why not? is it posible to make one?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] n1ck75:
Im sure they'd be a way of 'porting' grub to be able to do this?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] stepw:
There was a thread in Development and Hacking section regarding running OS from external storage (e.g. CF or SD), this is the closest to what you are looking for, AFAIK. It's still not working at this time though...

Grub was designed to run on PCs; boot process is completely different for mobile devices. No PC bootloaders are immediately portable.

A heavily patched SPL could probably make it possible to flash multiple OS images at once and choose which one to use at boot time, but this is by all means not a trivial thing and no such SPL is available up until now.

I'd say that multiboot capable SPL may appear for Blackstone once there's a fully working version of Android is available that many people would want to be able to run.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Shival:
What is the best and easiest graphics editor program for skinning?

I have been trying to use GIMP which it not terribly easy and I would really like some input about other programs. I just really do not want to buy photoshop. Haha.

Hints, Tips, and Tricks are also very welcomed about skinning and manila! lol
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Koffein Schluck:
maybe a good tip:

can IrfanView edit pictures?

OH!

And a very good tip for a Windows Mobile "Photoshop" ;) - Pocket Artist !

It's not freeware, but it worth it!!!!!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Sir.B:
Paint.NET found here

free, fast, and very good for skins (simple)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Shival:
About to give up on skinning. Shoot me.
[Palm Treo Pro] jrohr:
:confused:Everytime I download a CAB file and try to install on my Treo Pro I get an error message stating that runtime isn't installed. I tried finding runtime on my device but had no luck...any help would be appreciated.
[Palm Treo Pro] jazzrich9:
Hate to offer the obvious, but have you done a hard reset? which cabs specifically aren't working? Are you installing them onto your device, or a memory card?
[Palm Treo Pro] jrohr:
I have one a hard reset...no luck

Onto the device, not the mem card as I don't have one installed.

I can't get any cabs to install. I am trying to install Skyfire and/or Opera Mobile
[Palm Treo Pro] mccune:
How did you perform a hard reset?

Soft reset the Red button + DPad up?
[Palm Treo Pro] jrohr:
Yep.

Removed bat door, used soft reset while holding red button...waited for the "erase all items" or whatever it says and then went through the process.

I know there is a ROM update out so I wonder if that will fix this. It's obviously something JAVA related that i can't seem to figure out.
[Palm Treo Pro] jazzrich9:
Rom update? For the Treo Pro? Do you have a link for that?
[Palm Treo Pro] jrohr:
I got it from a buddy who is a tech for Sprint.
[Palm Treo Pro] jrohr:
T850eww-1.05-spt
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hidavi:
Which one is cooler? I've been using XBMod's TF3D2 cooked into my fave ROMs for a month now and I've grown quite accustomed to it.

However, As of the last three days I've been using WM6.5 and the interface is nice. I'm still using TF3D2 but I'm considering moving over to WM6.5 becaue its so much lighter, simpler, and snappier.

However, TF3D2 is more versatile and stylish.

What do you guys think?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] DrzNight:
hmm I think tf3d2 is definitely very nice but because its not part of the os and it has to run on top of winmo, I'd rather give up a little bit of style and keep things going nice and fast without sacrificing ram and resources. And I kinda like the sliders and other new stuff that 6.5 has to offer although I can't wait for 7
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hidavi:
I just realized that WM6.5 doesn't do weather :( I use the weather tab a lot.

I also use the Youtube/Internet tab too in TF3D2
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] gobmonster:
Im using the default. I like TF3D2 alot, but its landscape mode is buggy
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hidavi:
Yeah, thats true. I think I'm going to turn to default WM6.5 for a while after all.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] vexingv:
i made the leap and flashed my Fuze for the first time and w/ Da_G's base WM 6.5 rom. i like the new 6.5 today/home interface. i also wouldn't be surprised if icons get added to the text on the home page once the final version is released. while TF3D has a lot of nice features, it's ultimately eye candy. i think the 6.5 interface consolidates things nicely on one screen and is finger-friendly enough. when i was using the stock rom, i was actually using PointUI's Home2 instead of TF3D as that just used too many resources and I really only used maybe 3 tabs.

*rant/aside*

i think microsoft needs to bring WM to a level where the core functionality of the device, foremost it's phone/communicating functions, is solid and can stand on its own without these user-made shells/enhancements. honestly, i think this is where the iphone succeeds--it's core functionality is done very well and for probably 90+% of the market, it does what users need it to do w/o any hassles. on the other hand, w/ WM more often than not, one is always trying to tweak the device as the UI and/or out-of-box experience isn't always pleasant. as for tweaking, frankly it gets tiring and frustrating--i've got other things in my life to do and would much rather be able to have a device that's useable right out of the box. overlooking its lack of physical keyboard and deficiencies w/ bluetooth (which should be remedied in OS 3.0), if the iphone platform weren't so locked down (have to go through apps store for everything and compulsory internet plans), i probably would have gone that route and am still contemplating it as my next phone.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hidavi:
^I don't think you get the value of the M$ business model.

Mac for iPhone is just like Mac for their home computers; its designed the way that the OEM wants it, and since they are the OEM, thats that.

WinMo is designed to appeal to a much much larger range of distributors. Its designed vanilla to keep costs low so that the resellers can tweak it however they want and make their own product out of it. People are happy to use the product as it is. Its mostly just the geeks that get annoyed with it, but all the T-Mobile Wing users out there don't complain, despite the phone running like a smelly piece of ass. Why? Because its cheap and, in the end, gets the job done.

You'll never catch a business mass ordering iPhones for their field workers because that's not what they are for. iPhones are entertainment devices. WinMo phones are work devices.

Its actually very intelligent. Sure, the OS isn't as tight as it could be, but they can get away with it because its such an effective model. Its just how business works.