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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MikeKnoop:
That's expected, the Tachi canvas lacks those features from the base OEM because the Tachi is only 480x640 just like the Diamond/Raphael. The only reason that extra row exists in the original screenshot is because the Topaz has the extra room there so HTC added another row of buttons.

We would need someone who can keep an eye for for new Tachi canvas' so that we can patch them in case HTC (and hopefully they will) release a new, updated Tachi dialer with more stable features.

EDIT: I'm playing around with the conferencing feature more and sadly it doesn't look like it works as expected. I've got no idea how one would go about fixing that, so it looks like if you want conferencing functionality, you might have to get the actual Topaz canvas (By the way, has anyone actually tested the topaz conferencing functionality to verify it works?)

-Mike
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] flyinonice4:
My question is whether or not those things under the line are necessary in call. If not and this dialer works, then its perfect. So what does each icon missing represent?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Qui-Gon Ginn:
shortcut to messages, history , conference... if i don't make mistake.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Qui-Gon Ginn:
It work nice for me and in french ( i made a rom with topaze phonecanvas so i have french mui :) )

A question . In your zip , you have oem package, what is the use of PACKAGE_Tachi_SlotManager ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] flyinonice4:
Hmmmm. I dont know. I thought the first one was contacts. I dont think any are history, but either the second or third one is messages. The last one does look like conference. So that leaves only the second or third one unaccounted for. Maybe notes? It doesnt look in-call important though. Conference call would be the one I think I'd miss most, but I assume you would be able to use the menu button in the bottom right hand corner to acheive that. Does anybody know what the buttons actually mean? How about the conference call ability from the menu button?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jmz:
It is required for the dialer to work. One of the dependencies of it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] btxakita:
It just for Tachi

Dual Networks INCLUDE GSM and CDMA

So U can just let slotmanager work then Phonecanvas works fine too.;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Captain_Throwback:
Tachi Phone Canvas

Very nice work.

I'm now able to call contacts from the "People" tab (using the manila.exe from jmztaylor that doesn't launch the SIP).

Here's a question. How do I make a phone call from this thing? If I open the dialer, and type a number, how am I supposed to start the call? I think the "Send" button is missing, or something (see attached screenshot). If I press the hardware button, it just re-opens the canvas, it doesn't initiate a call.

The one thing that's definitely a shame about the Tachi canvas is the fact that it still doesn't play nice w/6.5 (which really doesn't make any sense). If I scroll down my contacts list in the dialer, everything still gets blurred together. Hopefully HTC has fixed that on the release version.

EDIT: . . . And I just re-read your original post Mike, and I see this issue has been noted. Please disregard :).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hefman:
As far as I'm concerned, if the dialer is fully functional (I really don't care about video or conferencing) and solves the dialer integration issues with TF3D2, then you're getting my bounty.

Thanks for working on this. Good luck working out the kinks. I'd try it out, but I need a working phone for the next few days. I'll probably be recooking something later this week and will test what's available at that time.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mokoboy:
hi

how transform the OEM to cook it with ervius kitchen?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MikeKnoop:
That's a good observation. I didn't even think that the phone hardkey was re-launching the canvas, I just figured there was something more sinister going on deeper in the cavnas. If we're only missing a send button (or rather, the canvas is receiving the keycode correctly) then that should be a bit easier to address.

-Mike
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] le_cactus:
Landscape support?

Great work,

Works so far, lan portrait mode. Anyone figured out how to get it to work in landscape?

Cheers,

/Cacti
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MikeKnoop:
Someone earlier in this topic mentioned a registry key to enable it, at the expense of some TF3D functionality. I don't know any of the reg keys associated with this canvas though, someone else will have to share them.

-Mike
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Kamill:
I've installed it on WM6.5, but it seems that it is not active, I have still the standard WM dialer. As mentioned above, is there any registry key to enable the htc dialer?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MikeKnoop:
What ROM are you using, and what radio? Phone type (diamond/pro)?

-Mike
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] le_cactus:
Seems like the CAB installer only installs the files. It doesn't set the registry settings that are in th OEM Package's rgu files. But I guess that's the only (simple) way an uninstall is possible.

I tried to convert the rgu files to reg files and import them, but they don't make landsape happen. Then again, if (like MikeKnoop sated) it would break TD3F's landscape functionality I guess it's just not worth installing yet. I need landscape both in the dialer *and* in TF3D.

Cheers,

/Cacti
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kwill:
you probably need to enable phone skin in adv. config.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hefman:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3789065&postcount=4920
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Kamill:
I did so, it didn't help :(

Diamond

rom: Gen.Y 1.2.9 (build 21725)

radio: 1.08.25.20

If I set the values manually should it work? Anyway, I'll try to do so tomorrow.

Thanks for the replies, guys!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Captain_Throwback:
updated Tachi (GSM) cab

I took MikeKnoop's cab, and just added the Phone Canvas rgu file to install to the registry with the files in the cab, and now the Dialer works correctly with 6.5! And there's a lot of nice graphics in there as well, now.

The hardware button still doesn't initiate a call, but Mike is aware of that issue, and I'm sure he's working on it.

Landscape of course, is also an issue, but a known one. The landscape view appears to be incomplete.

Download here!

EDIT: My dialer cab doesn't include phcanOverbmp.dll, as it would replace any custom version you currently have on your device.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MikeKnoop:
Captain, thanks for the info. I'm looking right now on importing the .rgu into my initial CABs (and then I'll re-upload them).

I'm using QuickCab to make the cab, which only supports .reg files. Did you convert the .rgu to a .reg or are you using another tool?

-Mike
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Captain_Throwback:
I'm using WinCE Cab Manager :). You should be able to just rename the rgu to .reg and it should probably work.

I only used one of the .rgu's, as I'm on GSM, and one had only CDMA entries, and another had a Chinese Control Panel entry. I was also able to compress the cab, making mine only about 2.5MB, where I believe yours was about 12.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hefman:
"Cap'n Cab" strikes again! :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MikeKnoop:
Great thanks for the info. I'm going to look into WinCE Cab Manager and hopefully get my original CABs updated. I'll post when its done.

-Mike
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rennat:
Few questions:

1.) How does it work with 6.1? (My usb plug is broke on my phone so I can't flash the ROM to 6.5)

2.) Does it work with CDMA networks yet?

3.) Everything is working on it except the hardware answer button, right?

Thanks ahead of time!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MikeKnoop:
Yes, apparently better so than 6.5.

Yes, I developed it on my Sprint CDMA diamond.

More or less, there are a few glitches like the slider, and conferencing might not work. Those are the main issues right now.

-Mike
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Qui-Gon Ginn:
I made a rom incluing the cab of MikeKnoop and it work fine.

I tried to make package with cab but i found like 6/7 differents dsm.

I tried to use packages inclued in the zip but when i use PACKAGE_Tachi_SlotManager i have a problem with enter pin code.

I made a config.txt and installed it by cab and it's ok. I use OEM_Topaze_PhoneCanvas to cook :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jgaviota:
JFYI You can flash from your SD Card if you already hardslp'ed

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=508084
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MikeKnoop:
JMZTaylor mentioned to me that he removed something which fixed the "enter pin code" problem... I'm not sure what it was though. I think he's working on cleaning up the CAB.

-Mike
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jmz:
Basically the fix is to remove everything in the slotmanager oem but the dlls, rgu, and dsm. And also just delete the 0809 slotmanager all together. That will remove the pin code screen from launching on boot and will still leave the dependency intact.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sharkie405:
I'm using a sprint touch pro running Juicy's latest rom Build 090530H. I am able to make calls from the contact tab in Tf3d2 now. As you can tell I'm still a newbie so I'm not sure what all is supposed to happen. You still can't scroll through contacts on the phone screen without them getting jumbled. I guess that's to do with the porting of it...or something... I hated having to go to contacts to make a call. You Rock! As this is my first post, let me say all you guys rock! You are truly amazing. The fact that it's all done free for the masses is utterly amazing and selfless. Thank you so much. Anyway, yeah, it works on my phone :) Sorry for the lengthy post...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ark666:
Hi guys, i apologize to ask this, but can someone post the jmztaylor manila.exe from TF3D2 to replace manil2.exe?

I can´t seem to find it anywhere. :)

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jmz:
Just use the standard manila exe and dlls from the rhodium dump on my site.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ark666:
Thanks bro, thought it was a bit more dificult. :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dharvey4651:
AMAZING! Only one bug I can find so far not mentioned by anyone else so far. When you have the slider up in portrait mode while in-call, the end call button is still accessible without sliding down the slider.

Other than that, amazing work.

Now if it can be fixed to work 100%, and show the bottom row of buttons in portrait mode, the person who releases that will have my bounty pledge. Honestly that's all not important at all. I am just happy that it's finally working. mikeknoop you've got my pledge. Hopefully in the future the slider being non-functional as far as the on screen keys go) will be fixed soon.

EDIT:: Just realized you don't have a donate button mikeknoop. Once you get one, you'll have my pledge.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reeg420:
I know...pretty much what I was saying a minute ago in another thread.

Heres my post from the other thread.

Someone from the other thread brought up the blurring in the contacts tab of the phone too.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MikeKnoop:
Guys I got a bunch of these bugs worked out, but I'm still cleaning up the CAB and getting it to work correctly. I'll have an update soon!

-Mike
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jeffy2walgreens:
will this work for CDMA phones?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ND4SPD:
just saw this :D Nice job MikeKnoop!

btw, can you possibly (maybe with IM or something) give me a gist of what you did in the disassembly? Though the bounty was something nice to shoot for (which you definitely deserve), I want to learn new stuff above all.

if you can, my IM is shown on every post I make :D

EDIT: If you want to switch between 3G and 2G canvas, switch between the modified phcanrc.dlls (one from t-mobile rhodium 3.43 rom is 2G canvas and one from topaz/tachi is 3G canvas) and apply the corresponding registry files.

If you don't want the hassle, I'll post two cabs for the different canvases.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MRFERRARI23:
That's awesome to hear MikeKnoop.....but when you say "I got a bunch of these bugs worked out" which ones exactly??? will the new release be out today?? this is great news...thanx a million!! :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sharkie405:
Yes, I just tried it on my Sprint Touch Pro and it works great. No more jumbled contacts in phone directory.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Tenny:
Can't wait, with this and a new calk kitchen I will be busy tonight :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MikeKnoop:
With luck I'll get it uploaded tonight. Specifically, its a lot more stable and the graphics are enabled. Also I'm working on a bug currently which gives you an error at startup about a missing file, and disables your radio. Stay tuned!

-Mike
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jossgray:
Ive got it working on my GSM diamond wm 6.5

i think ive found a bug, when you type in a number and choose save to contacts theres and extra button with no text which does the same as the yes button.

Also are there any cabs to install the topaz/tachi manilla now that we have this great :D new phone canvas available.

edit/ i dont see any option for video calling?

2nd edit/ screen shot
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MikeKnoop:
Bear with me. There are 2 versions of the files in the wild, and its working properly on mine so I think you might have the older one!

Also with respect to the video calling, I haven't looked for it but its possible the Tachi canvas might not have it?

-Mike
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jossgray:
Ok cool, just wanted to help in anyway i could,

hopefully thanks to you and xbmod we'll get a new manilla soon.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MRFERRARI23:
Well GLAD to hear this is coming along!! I've current got the lastest one for GSM installed and all is working well from what i've seen....I only notice like dharvey said that the buttons when on a call with the screen up can still be hit like keypad an end but idk if thats the way it was intended or not and also no more blurry contacts with wm6.5 and the curtain when slid down you have to wait for it to go back up on its own..a few secs... an no landscape which was stated but, other then that pretty damn spiffy lol...I LIKE ;)

Mike when does this error supposed to occur, like if i were to soft reset, cause after i initially installed it an restarted that didn't happen to me..maybe you mean after another SR idk and then that would disable my radio not making my phone work?? and id have to turn it back on?.. and what do you mean "its a lot more stable and the graphics are enabled" sorry just curious lol
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MikeKnoop:
Well here's what happened. After the initial upload I went back and modified the CABs to install all the registry settings similar to captain a few pages back. I uploaded these to the server about an hour ago, and hence some people got a CAB/OEM with reduced functionality because these registry keys were not in the original cabs.

Then with the registry tweaks I began seeing some new behaviors which I'm fixing now. It's possible if all is working for you then you won't notice much change with this next bug-fix release.

-Mike
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dharvey4651:
Seriously looking forward to the update. Video call isn't important to me as I'm with T-Mobile in the US using an AT&T Fuze(No front facing camera). I do think, however, that with this next release, you ought to put up a donate button. :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ark666:
Hi mike, nice work u put in this stuff, but doesn´t the dialer should look like this? Instead of the ones i´m seeing?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dharvey4651:
Oh I misunderstood your post then. :rolleyes:

The old manila, manil2.exe, actually worked with the current canvas's such as the stock slide to answer "PACKAGE_Raphael_PhoneCanvas_Slider.

The problem is that we are now using a newer Rhodium manila.exe which self-starts on VGA devices. I already did a re-port of the Rhodium album and added MediaToolKit from the latest ROM as that has also become a requirement. I'll upload and post the album in the XBMod Rhodium VGA Manila thread later.

I attached the whole Raphael Canvas below.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Chainfire:
I still need the new manila exe's and dll's :)

Not sure but it seems like it could be an easy fix (though obviously I will not be able to test it without having your 'dev' port of Manila)

BTW now I have your attention anyways, who does the porting of the lua's and mode9's? The background image is not displayed correctly, me and showaco are working on a fix for this however we would prefer working with your versions of the (decompiled) lau's so the fix can be applied in the next patch. I PM'd xboxmod about it but he's not online (yet), just realise I don't even know if he's the guy who does that part :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] willyy1991:
I remember when i had a SE k800i.. everyone was requesting ports etc. then a group of people from the community came with an idea to give examples of how to port dlls and other files from on to another phone. and by doing that creating some kind of tutorial, after that i stopped requesting things and started porting them myself with a hex editor. i think it's to hard to find development information about the manila platform and i would love to learn to help porting and developing... besides that i think i'm not the only one who would like to do it and alot of requests will be done by people themselves...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dharvey4651:
Hit me up on AIM or MSN:

AIM - "bigfatdragon18" (long story on the name... lol)

MSN - dharvey4651 AT hotmail dot com

I'll hook you up with the dev version of the exes and dlls.

Also, xboxmod and 12aon are working on the lua and mode9 thanks to sztupy for decompiling them.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] At0mAng:
If help is still needed on this please feel free to message me on here or Yahoo/MSN. My yahoo and msn are the same name as on here but add @yahoo or @live
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wolfnumba1:
add me for $10 would love to see this, i miss having the curtain in the dialers
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wmserver:
I'll contribute my US$10.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] quserdy:
5 USD

put me in this with 5 USD (there might be 10 USD if absolutely everything works like a charm on vga 3G GSM Devices and 15 for conference call working, dont know whether this is intended at all?? )

i think off topic: in new rhodium manila each time i read an e mail there is a green phone button in the head to phone the consignor(/sender i hope thats the right expression...??) but it doesnt work for me... is this a manila or dialer(topaz canvas;)) issue?

thanks in advance guys!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dharvey4651:
Yes I would say it most likely is. :(

I added your pledge to the first post.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] neptronix:
5 USD

Put me in for $5.00 USD as well. Probably more later, but $5 for now. Going to also be taking a stab at things tonight myself.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hefman:
Put me down for $15. If you don't mind (so that I don't forget), I'll go ahead and donate it to you and you can pass it along.

Anyway, thanks for all you do and let's hope this can get done.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jmz:
Just an update. With the help of Da_G, I have been able to figure out that it is not even loading. So I am in the process of trying to figure out why it is failing to load. If anybody reads this that has a Touch HD, please shoot me a PM. I have a request for that person.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MRFERRARI23:
dharvey, earlier you said this "I already did a re-port of the Rhodium album and added MediaToolKit from the latest ROM as that has also become a requirement. I'll upload and post the album in the XBMod Rhodium VGA Manila thread later"

whats new in this an when will you post it??? thanx!!:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dharvey4651:
There isn't much new in the album however it is needed to fix the "Add photo to contact card" feature of the new manila and HTC Contact Card Editor.

Chances are I will post it when the next update to manila is posted.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] radarhunter:
So will this work on Htc Touch ???
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dharvey4651:
Unfortunately no. The HTC Touch is QVGA and the project is to port it to VGA. If a QVGA developer wants to try to tackle this and port it to QVGA then that is their own business and won't count towards the bounty as QVGA was not the original concept this thread was created upon.

The new HTC Rhodium Manila VGA Port(currently not released - latest fixes and auto-start) require this canvas to function properly.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MRFERRARI23:
thats cool thanx for the reply, but theres already a fix for the contact card photo that i applied and it worked...now in the new manila 2 the pic i choose shows up in the new sms part in contact card etc.....it was a reg edit fix you had to do....i actually found it on xda i believe in the xboxmod manila 2 thread but still looking forward to all new improvements...

hey while i have you here....what the deal with the push pages?? this fix got it working partially but i cant add my own new pages an then then when you do press them opera loads an it goes slow when infact theres supposed to be zero wait! thanx as always !!! :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kapitanogor:
and me

Will send £15 I love that port... even beta is greate

Thanks for that I cant wait to see everything that working on my Diamond :) this idea is cooll people with skills will have motivation and some time, since time = money
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ND4SPD:
i'm on it :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rydah:
and if you need first testing i will help. or i will help in any way i can as needed.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jmz:
That would be the Topaz dialer. What he has working is the TACHI dialer. Different phone, different settings. This will serve the purpose of getting TF3D2 working smoother for the contacts without the hackjob loader.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MikeKnoop:
JMZ, is there a reason this OEM even HAS that image in it? (OEM\PACKAGE_Tachi_PhoneCanvas_MASD_0804\Assets_dialer_normal.bmp)

I'm thinking that maybe the canvas is using that image but loading it too far down on the screen to view the bottom row of buttons. I think this because you'll notice that the regular "dialer_normal.bmp" has a shadow on the bottom which isn't showing up on my phone.

-Mike
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dharvey4651:
You are correct about this. "Simple" re-positioning should fix this. Possibly even enabling the video dial.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ark666:
That was what i meant, and then we wouldnt even need the hardware button also.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MRFERRARI23:
so there's a new better version being released besides the last one thats been posted, and if so what can we expect thats different?? is there really an huge difference between the tachi an tp2 dialers??
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jmz:
I agree. Get with l3v5y, he had it worked out pretty well.