yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] N1T15H:
Hi all,

actually, its nothing to do specifically with M2D ...

actually,been noticing that with everything ... say, PointUI Home 2 for example , .. leave your video on paused state, and try playing around the Home ... seems a marvel ...

but then, its been there since my UIQ3 days, on my P990i ... graphics performance boost up whilst leaving a video running ....

i hope this will trigger some wise minds in here ...

:-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zerocool159:
Yeah actually tried this trick with a Gameboy emulator. Works pretty well. Eliminates page tearing so that's pretty cool. :) Here's to hoping something gets done with this!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] chiejin:
Will doing this kill the battery life?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zerocool159:
It may affect it slightly since it is still running a program. As far as i can tell there isn't much of a change in the real world though.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pjcforpres:
From what I have read, attempted to understand, and barely grasp, this likely works because it opens up the 3D and 2D driver sets so that programs that don't have the "call" code built in but support 3D and 2D drivers are able to utilize them then.

Not 100%, but it seems like this is where the driver developement is stuck at in general, with finding out how to get all programs to use the drivers all the time even if the drivers are not native.

I have very limited knowledge of all of those, though, and half the driver stuff goes over my head, but what I have grasped is that they don't seem to have, to use an analogy, the "phone number" for the drivers, but some programs do and some do not type thing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Link278:
maybe we should just have pause a video and add it as an exlusive itme in the task mager and always have it running lol Im gonna try this
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Link278:
You should change the name of this thread to somthing taht will atract more attention liek "possible graphics driver fix!" cause honestly I think you discovered somthing very usefuil if someone made a cut down version of this app and just had a pause short medai clip in the backround this could be a step closer to our driver solution or mabe THE solution and honestly I think this is amazing, and I think if you changed the titl of this thread it would attract A LOT of more atention
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Prema:
Could it be the Q7200 having some sort of speed step running and playing a clip is bringing it up to its default max of 400 MHz...? Which would simply speed up everything but consume more battery...

If it really enables drivers to run, that would be simply amazing and some of the smart heads here should take a deeper look into it.

Very interesting find!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Bonusbartus:
Maybe its also worth posting in more general forum? not in Kaiser Rom development?

maybe try to send a message to someone from the HTCclassaction team?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kapollo:
Hi, isn't this video player actually a separate app that is spawned from manila?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] undac:
Any handy people out there who could make this happen with a .cab? (install small video player, make it autostart and run an included, very small, video, all while running invincibly/exlusively in the background?)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Link278:
Now THATS a good idea
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Infuruno:
Doubt its the processor stepping up left this active all day no difference in battery consumption or little if any. This is a cool find hope it leads somewhere for 'cursed users'.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] davewaave:
Shifu v1.1

Seems to speed things up on this rom as well. Does seem more than a placebo effect.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zerocool159:
Sorry. I don't know if this is frowned upon on this forum, but I'm bumping this for great justice. move zig lol
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] denco7:
Sorry, I have to agree with placebo effect, I am using PDA X Beta II and Manila was pretty speedy before trying this, tried it and saw no difference, real or imagined.:confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] andrew-in-woking:
Does work

Hi

I've been working on a HTC Trinity as well as my Kaiser. The trinity always had better performance with M2D. Using the "video running in background" I got a performance from my Kaiser much closer to that of Trinity.

Cheers

andrew-in-woking
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zerocool159:
Maybe this IS a good idea. Is there any way a mod can move this to general instead? I think it'll get more attention there.

ROM development changes it's first page headlines faster than the spread of AIDS in Zimbabwe. :D (not too mention the failure of their economy)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ASCIIker:
my signature is inaccurate...i'm using HyperDragon IV April 10th Rhodium ROM currently and i can confirm that the trick works in this ROM also

there is a noticable smoothness in the manila2d tab scrolling animation and also a noticable smoothness in coreplayer playback (tested with introduction of 24 Season 3 Finale episode, 576x320 resolution at fullscreen DirectDraw output, medium quality with dithering).

i ran a preliminary benchmark with coreplayer but the results were against my observation...but then i wasn't testing scientifically either...i had applications running in the background.

i'll post back here with benchmark results, with and without an album video paused in the background...unless someone beats me to these results...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Chainfire:
Bookmarked for future reference
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sinning:
Placebo Effect

I don't agree that this is placebo effect. I've definitely noticed an improvement over the past 2 days after starting a video in the background. The slight stuttering that Manilla2d showed before doing this no longer occurs at all.

Also, I've not seen a noticeable decrease in battery performance.

However, I do agree that this is odd.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] HerbertSchwytzer:
So is there a .cab?

I saw on previous posts that a registry tweak that activates a video on startup would be a good idea. Is someone working on this or has such a .cab?

Would be nice to know if the Kaiser has some performance hidin' under the keyboard :rolleyes:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stylez:
I'm with you on this one maybe we just have M2D @ it's peak anyway? Spent last 20 mins farting about with video on off paused, no difference, using PDA v.19.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Hannigan174:
It makes mine smoother

This absolutely makes my tilt run more smoothly. I am running older HyperDragon III (October or November) and it is pretty drastic. I would love to see a cleaner fix because I don't want to run a full video program (WMP or TCPMP) just to make everything smooth.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jetbro:
no difference here! i'm running -g-'s dk10 final rom, he has a cab file on his thread called "manila2d smoother move patch", it makes m2d run beatifully with no lag.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Moony1987:
It's working in a similar way on my Blackstone with Miri's 6.5 rom.

Say I try to use CorePlayer to play an MP4 encoded video - it won't. Audio plays, but the video freezes.

If I open WMP and start playing an MP4, and then open CorePlayer - CorePlayer plays it fine.

Interesting.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Dredd67:
Did you do a benchmark ? I did it :D

On my Blackstone, used some divx encoded movie (container is avi, not mp4, so not playable with wmp), and a movie acquired with the camera, so .mp4.

I did a benchmark and the result is the following:

Methods

HTC Touch HD, latest Dutty's V3 rom, freshly flashed.

No Additional program installed.

Coreplayer 1.3.0 build 6213

1st movie is a DVDrip, avi, xvid.

2nd movie has benn acquired with the camera, so it's MP4.

Results are presented as following:

AVI movie / MP4 Movie / MP4 Video paused in WMP in background

Driver QTV

117 % / 135% / without wmp running a mp4 vid.

115 % / 197% / with wmp runninga mp4 vid.
​

Driver DirectDraw

92 % / 142% / without wmp running a mp4 vid.

86 % / 186% / with wmp runninga mp4 vid.

​

Analysis:

The avi movie suffers from the additional memory used by WMP in the background, and there is no improvement.

The MP4 movie benchmark improves dramatically when a MP4 vid is paused in the background with WMP.

QTv still provides better results than DirectDraw.
​

Conclusion

So there is some kind of acceleration, but only on MP4 movies !:eek:

You may notice that it doesn't seem to be directdraw dependant. Neet. :cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dao:
This might be interesting to some people with more knowledge.

Tried this just now and it did make things run faster and smoother however, I noticed that on my homescreen the background I'm using had several white spots dotted about all over the screen (several hundred in fact) - as though the image had suffered from it's compression.

So, thinking I'd have to restart the device I just closed everything to first make sure I didn't have too many things running and noticed when closing HTC's Album the spots disappeared in front of my eyes!!

Tried it again with JUST Album running and the same thing happened.

Don't know if it will give anyone any clue as to what's going on but I'll try and grab some pictures if you think it would help

BTW: using the stock rom from Orange v1.19
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Dredd67:
Just saw that also, really weird.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Dredd67:
Using MyMobiler can't get a proper picture of the white dots, but they are still there.

Will try with pocket screen.

Edit : WEIRD: I can see them but impossible to capture them !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dao:
Currently at work but i will try and get a video of it via another camera - or at least a picture of it
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] vix-:
I think I can explain the white dots people are seeing.

If your background is shades of black, likely what you are seeing is the result of overlay. You can actually see this happen in windows depending upon what video player you use and what rendering/output mode you are using. If you are using a video player like MPC or one of the other free players. Go into options > Playback > Output and tell it to use "Overlay Mixer."

From here you can do this different ways. Way 1 should always work but Way 2 can be quicker.

#1) Now play a video and take a screen shot with PrtScr key. Use your favorite image editor (mspaint or irfanview works), and paste the screenshot (ctrl+v). If you position the player under the player in the pasted screen shot you will see the video playing.

#2) If you paint a screen with the RGB color of 16,0,16 and place a video under it. You will see the video playing on that patch of the screen.

I don't know the EXACT reason why this occurs, but I suspect it has to do with some low level find and replace color functions in windows. Such that windows/directx knows the region the video should run in, and it will look for that color pixel and replace it with the video. Thats my running theory.

I think what you are seeing is much like the video playing through onto your home screen. ASSUMING your home screen is that shade of black.

TL;DR: If you see the white specks and you have a black background, its the video in the background showing through.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Chainfire:
Clarifications, let me tell you them!

What you are seeing is absolutely correct - and has been known for some time. The Qualcomm chipset has MP4 acceleration - and this is actually used in some places. It's been a while since I've looked into these things, but as I recall, WMP can use it (on some devices/ROMs) and so does the "video call" thing. However, this only works for MP4.

I never suspected (perhaps I am an idiot ;)) this thing would affect normal graphics operation as well. I have not investigated this speed boost myself yet - but I know the general area where to look for this, hack-wise - but I got some suspicions about how this works technically. I may be able to replicate it without actually playing a video. It seems this video playback activates some features of the chip that affect normal 2D as well. Guess I got some testing, trying, and hacking to do! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Dredd67:
Nice you'll get an eye on this. Just some more informations:

I've tried the OpenVG drivers, did not find them exstatic, and wanted to revert to the stock drivers on Dutty's V3, so deinstalled them. Up to now, I'm not able to reproduce the 2d speed boost anymore, I'll need to hard reset I think.

Not all the MP4 are working this way,in fact I think there's only a very specific type of encoding that works, and maybe it's kinda drm related, because MP4 encoded in several ways with SUPER, BADABOOM, and MEDIACODER, don't have that speed boost, so far only the one recorder with the HD's camera works.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Prema:
Big Thanks Chainfire for looking into this!

Your presence here is the best thing that could happen to us.

BIG THX :-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Dredd67:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/...o-stop-suing-one-another-but-not-t/#continued

Does this mean drivers ? ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Chainfire:
I've been mucking around but have so far been unable to replicate the speed boost on my device. I've tried with an MP4 from my computer as well as one recorded with my HD. Can you post an MP4 that you can confirm works for you?

Doubt it. Just because Broadcom vs Qualcomm is now settled means nothing for relations between HTC vs Qualcomm, I would guess ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Dredd67:
OK just did a hard reset, still using dutty's v3 and the only app installed is Coreplayer.

I've had a hard time reproducing the results, but managed to get them again. With the wonderful video attached (panorama of the mess on my desk), i've got 138-140% benchmark at default speed and a whopping 191% when wmp running the same vid in the background.

What's interesting is that it seems that all this process is heavy procedure dependant: even with wmp in the background, sometimes the speed boost just doesn't occur, and then again. Try to switch from wmp to coreplayer, open and reopen files and you'll see that also.

Oh and yes, sometimes one app seems to steel the overlay, the screen remains blanck but the sound plays fine. Weird.

oh and here some screenies to confirm:

With WMP in the background

Without WMP in the background
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Chainfire:
I've just been able to replicate the speed-up with my Kaiser. From what I see so far it seems to affect everything drawed with DirectDraw (my my that M2D is snappy now!). The reason this would not show up with AVI decoding is probably because the AVI playing is CPU limited. There seem to be two things at play here:

1) DirectDraw accelerator

2) MP4 accelerator

MP4 accelerator uses DirectDraw accelerator but also provides speed improvement itself (HW decoding) - which is why .MP4 plays better than .AVI and you see no improvement for AVI in CorePlayer. But for other DirectDraw apps, still DirectDraw accelerator works! :)

Now to fix it permanent, ey! :D

EDIT: I've also noticed OpenGL stuff runs smoother - but pure FPS is a tad bit lower. Got some ideas about that :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Dredd67:
Yeah nice remarks, I agree with your intuition.

Yes but this would be:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Chainfire:
"Of course its a good idea!"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Dredd67:
here's a little gift:

It's a collection of dumps from sktrack, a software tracking changes, showing a snapshot of the system before and after onpening wmp, and after closing it again.

Don't know if it's relevant, but some reg keys are created and deleted on the fly, especially this one:

HKCU\Software\HTC\WMP\WMPStatus;V**;4;2<*>;4;0, meaning when wmp is on it's changed from 0 to 2.

anyway, here it is, attached. Hope it helps somewhere.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Chainfire:
VICTORY IS MINE!

Now, its not a complete victory. It will break MP4 playback in Windows Media player, and Windows Media Player trying to play MP4 will break my hack. I'm still looking into that - but results are awesome so far.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] baklap:
nothing to add except my amazement in what you guys are doing!!! fantastic how you all are pursuing such a thing..

i bow humble to you all! (and all the chefs and contributors for that matter!)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Dredd67:
Tell us your progress mate ;)

If I understand correctly, you want to enable mp4 acceleration by default, instead of letting wmp enabling it when you run it. Thus, when you'll run a mp4 with wmp, it will just switch off acceleration.

Not a big deal, wmp already sucks...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stylez:
Defo agree on that one, my test failed as wasn't a complient video, but since others have picked it and now i see benchmarks, i'm a diidly sat waiting on this beauty :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Chainfire:
Well... my tool topic is here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=509704

Not released yet, but probably very very soon :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zerocool159:
I never thought a quirk I noticed would garner so much attention... I really, really wanna thank all of those (especially Chainfire) who are actively working on getting this graphical exploit working. :D I think this a huge step forward for M2D functionality on the Kaiser.:cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] diredesire:
Props to you guys for finding this interesting glitch out. I just tried it, and my M2D is really snappy :)

I'm looking forward to seeing what you guys can do with this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] smeddy:
I thought I'd bump in the hope of progress :-) I would love to improve CorePlayer playback of my Divx etc. Even if there was just an autorun program to open an MP4 in Media Player and then minimise it, that would be interesting. I live in hope!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stylez:
Did u read about 4 posts above? GFXBoost has been made :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] libertysyclone:
I find this rather funny, it must be a windows thing. I run a game server (Win Server 2008 wTF2/L4d) and we run windows media player in the background to bump frame rates for the games...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Link278:
wow lol i wonder what windows media player does to boost frame rates
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Rick#2:
Bump, any more developments with this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stylez:
Can you read about 4 posts above? And then another 2 posts for link?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] slothluvchunk:
Hello all -

First off thanks for all the help you've given me so far with the wealth of experience and knowledge here I've been gleaning from.

I can't seem to find an answer to this one:

I've got my tp setup to use google sync. We use google apps at work, so I had the admin allow exchange, which is how googlesync works in windows mobile.

With me so far?

I've got activesync successfully connecting to the "exchange server" (google), and syncing calendar perfectly.

Is there a way for this syncing to happen without activesync being open all the time? I have activesync set to sync google with my calendar "as new items arrive" - but it seems that I have to leave activesync open all the time for this to happen...

Is there a way for these to sync continually without leaving activesync open all the time?

Thanks in advance,

Goonies never say die...
[General Topics] orb3000:
Ok

I´ve seached and found nothing

Is there an app to sync my Universal to Vista different to WMDC?

I´m having a lot of problems with it

Thanks in advance

If any thread is around please point me and delete this
[General Topics] Rudegar:
this let you sync

with thunderbird under vista

http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/02/26/how-to-sync-your-pocket-pc-with-thunderbird-mobile-minute/

dont use wmdc or activesync on the pda side
[General Topics] orb3000:
Thanks

I did not get it clear, sorry

So you mean I have to use thunderbird instead of outlook to make this work? if so it won´t be an option for me

And didn´t understand about not using WMDC on pda side

Thanks a lot
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Shival:
I am just wondering if any Artist (People who Skin and Make themes for TF3D) have their QTC/orPNG files split into sections for easier editing?

Example: You have all the Images divided into folders by their Tab/Category like Home tab, Messaging, Calendar, Internet Tab, and ect.

Just wondering if anyone has done that or if it is possible because I just started trying to get into Skinning but it is hard to figure out which files appear where in TF3D even with M9editor and the descriptions.

I would be very grateful if anyone has done this and could help in anyway.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] 6Fg8:
nixx-X1 did work on categorizing. Dont have the link handy, but should be found easily.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Shival:
I looked him up and all I found was something about the files categorized and PhotoShop. It is alright though. I guess this is going to be harder than I thought. See you in a year lol. jk.

Thanks though for that.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Sir.B:
that would be a daunting but a welcome undertaking

daunting because there are about 2000 files in the latest manila

and the current tools (and they are great tools) are not really setup to take advantage of separated files

welcome because many people could benefit from this

i only skin for my own use and only modify about a dozen files

i personally keep the files i work with in one folder and

the rest of manila as backup somewhere else
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Shival:
If you have any tips or tricks for skinning they would be extremely welcomed! lol

TF3D hates me! I have lost almost all ambition.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] 6Fg8:
Many of the images are used on more than one occasion. Anyway, here's a list of filenames and their virtual paths. The .qtc files are the ones you would go for. There are a few tools around here to convert them to png and back to qtc.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Shival:
Wow. This will help a lot.!

Manila is crazy. Seeing all those files and blah. I hope I can do this. I did attempt to change the Bottom curtain and just turn it into a fade up with the color yellow but it look just like a solid yellow bar. I think I may be because the image was 2x128pix but when it is on screen it only goes up half of that I think. I unno. Soo confusing.

But I was to say thanks for that filelist! It should help a lot.

To Anyone:

Any tips or tricks about editing Manila would be greatly appreciated!