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[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
hehe :D

not really, i guess.

At this point the app is available on the android market for 1.33GBP, 1.99USD, which for me is like an easy to use donation method (currently it sells about 5 to 10 units a day), as it will always be free through the website.

My main motivation so far has not been money,and I dont expect for it to become in the future. There might be a point in time where the sales justify more people to work on RockOn (being paid for it) and there the situation might change a little bit.

Anyway, donations are always welcome :D:D:D..., but I'm not taking them to define priorities at this point. RockOn next steps are defined by what I get most feedback for (and my own convictions of where I want RockOn to go). So if you really want to have those features fast all you have to do is convince more people to ask for them :)

Have fun

Filipe
[G1 Apps and Games] nehctuk:
still not working for me?

ok so i downloaded from the website and every time i mean every lol i get "the application RockOn (process org.abrantes.filex) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again" i would buy from market but i wanted to try it out first. if you could it would be great or tell what im doing wrong lol i used linda file manager to install from sd card:confused:
[G1 Apps and Games] MontAlbert:
not sure you know about this but i am running the 4.5 magic port of cupcake and the app is all over the shop. selecting albums only works occasionally. doesn't change sometimes. then it will revert back to the previous album for some reason- love the new selector though. the name helps me heaps.

keep up the good work though.
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
It would help me lots if you could provide a log of the error.

The method to obtain it is posted in:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=499155&page=3

this really helps a lot. if you need any more assistance in getting the log (given that you are willing to do the effort) I'd gladly guide you through the process.
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
I haven't really tested the app outside of the 1.1 SDK. I guess I should but time is short :P. Is anything else mal-functioning (for instance does the components positioning out of place comparing to the screenshots in the website? )
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
I think the next addition(neglecting bug fixes) will be the inclusion of playlists, but here I really need your help - what do you think is most useful?

Having never really used playlists makes me a playlist noob, but I want to make it something special out of it that really makes sense.

My initial thoughts are that dynamic playlists would be the most useful (recently added music, genre music, most played, etc). My question is if you do create your own playlists much (work, chill out, study, car, etc). And is it always in the m3u format? I see that at least in my music dirs there are a lot of m3u's that are just garbage (basically they refer to an album) and I didn't want to be including those so... the options are:

1. not including m3u automatically, and if you have m3u's available you add them manually. Only dynamic playlists would be shown by default...

2. include m3u's automatically... this would put every m3u in your music dirs available and pollute the list a little bit...

what do you think?

(ill be double posting this on android-community)
[G1 Apps and Games] MontAlbert:
yes. when selecting an album it still has the first 1 on my list. eg. my first album is Himsa, second one is mudvayne. I open the app and it has himsa in first. i then tap on mudvayne to select it. the himsa album art disappears but is not replaced by mudvayne. the title etc for himsa is still there. I tap mudvayne again and it brings it up but after playing 1 second of mudvayne it automatically switches back to himsa. after tapping mudvayne a few times- 4-5 it will eventually start playing.

the same thing happens again when trying to switch from this to my next one- rammstein.

once playing it plays ok.. the picture layout etc works ok.

keep up the good work- be prepared cupcake will come soon ( in a couple of weeks i reckon so if you are ready to go it would be huge).
[G1 Apps and Games] bjehsus:
Dynamic playlists would be awesome, but for manual ones, you could have the user set a playlist directory, and import them from there.
[G1 Apps and Games] nehctuk:
ok i will try

im not that great with this stuff but i will try :D

when i try and click the second link it says not found?

http://developer.android.com/guide/d...ng/device.html
[G1 Apps and Games] MrADeveci:
Cn have an option so that the albums on the left .... (vertical) are actually album covers, for artists?

For example .... I arranged all my mp3's so that are all in a 'Various' folder .... it would be nice if I could see a list of all the artists to the right, rather than albums?
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
yeah, sorry... just copy pasted the text to save you the trouble to find the right post...

the right link is

http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/device.html

the help is really appreciated... have fun :P
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
will add this to the todo list, but not a priority atm (this means that maybe in 1 or 2 months it will be added :P)

cheers
[G1 Apps and Games] bjehsus:
Tbh, I'd say that last.fm scrobbling should be a higher priority feature than playlists, if you can get it to work?
[G1 Apps and Games] nehctuk:
cant run ddms

every time i try and run ddms from cmd it says 'java' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable programs or batch file. :confused: im trying to help :D
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
ht

That is problably due to the absence of java in your system. Try it installing the latest java development kit (JDK):

http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp

(im not sure if the runtime environment [JRE] will suffice, so you probably better try with the jdk from the beginning)

thanks a lot for the effort!

Regarding last.fm scrobbling... it will be the next thing right after playlists... so maybe in 2 weeks.

Cheers
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
ooops, sry please mods delete this post...
[G1 Apps and Games] nehctuk:
got it work thanks to you

here is the log :D ok so i have no idea how to save it i hit save and is a blank text file :confused: this is the right one
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
that is exactly it, I will have a look at it tomorrow,

cheers&thanks
[G1 Apps and Games] nehctuk:
cool

na thank you i never heard of a dev trying so hard to help somebody out thanks a bunch :)
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
Hi nehctuk, I have probably fixed your issue but i am not updating the apk on the website just yet as I have found another memory leak issue [which I am not sure when it was introduced]. As soon as I fix it Ill shout!

[sidenote: memory leak issues usually make RockOn force close after a few screen rotations]

cheers
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
You can try downloading the new version from the website. I think I have fixed the memory leak issue and the problem you were having. Still this is a highly untested version so I havent updated the version on the android Market!

tell me how it goes,

Cheers,

Filipe
[G1 Apps and Games] nehctuk:
not yet

um well i tried it and... same thing but thanks for trying and i hope you can figure it out cause i have seen it work and its the best media player out there :D so keep it up

ok im so sorry but i switched my sd card and had no music on my phone and that is why it did not work cause once i put some music on there it was fine, im dumb and sorry for wasting your time but thanks
[G1 Apps and Games] bjehsus:
Just a thought; do you think visualisations would be too much effort?
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
it will take some time until I get onto to it (i dont know maybe 3-4 months), there is just too many things that need polishing first :P
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
:D

thats cool,it is also my fault it should give a warning or something
[G1 Apps and Games] MontAlbert:
used it today on my 5.0G with my blueant x5 bluetooth headphones. worked great- still had the issue where i had to touch on an album several times to get it to open.

maybe you could look into that please?

also, had an issue where when i pressed the play/pause button on headphones it didnt work with rockon. it opened android stock music app and started playing a song there- strange having akon doing harmonies with slipknot! is this a cupcak/BT issue or a rockon issue?
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
Im not sure yet. In my dev phone I dont experience this, in the last version of rockon headphone button was a bit buggy (could only launch the app, not play/pause nor trigger next). During the next week I will be fixing this and maybe within 2 weeks i will be looking into cupcake integration (now that the 'official' cupcake SDK is out).
[G1 Apps and Games] serial thriller:
I am very excited about RockON, but I get the force close all the time as well. :( I will try to post my log today though.
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
Ill be waiting :). thanks
[G1 Apps and Games] serial thriller:
Fabrantes, sorry, but just getting around to it. I would note one thing, your link for setting up the device on teh 3rd page of this forum is wrong. should be http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/device.html for some reason instead of developing it has d...ng Just an FYI. Will post my log once I get it.
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
thanks, I just edited the post and fixed the link
[G1 Apps and Games] serial thriller:
Here is the log.

I may also suggest updating your first post with all the info on how to do the debug (including installing Java if you don't have it.) Just a thought, because I just had to keep going to the 3rd page to make sure I was doing it right. You might find that you get more responses of it not working by doing this on the first page. Kinda like what is done with the ROMS.

Let me know if you need anything else other then this log.

Thanks,
[G1 Apps and Games] vizax:
I <3 devs who hijack threads about their own product!!

fabrantes, I saw this thread today, and figured "why not!". Already, I love this thing! Definately a high quality music player! :D:D:D I've only played 2 or 3 songs, and done some screen swipes to test out everything, and so far no real problems!

I have a comment/request: I was testing out the fastforward/rewind functions, I love how you made it work, and maybe its just me, but the progress bar for the song seems a little small to do short skips. I wanted to skip ahead to a certain part of the song, and had to scan forwards and backwards 3-4 times before i got close to it. It seems to me that the progress bar might be made a little longer to help with this.
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
:D, guilty. regarding the song progress... I think it is not quite intuitive - or obvious - how it works. We have been using the traditional progress bar for too long...

currently if you do a swipe (either left or right) over the song progress, it will go 30 seconds (either backwards or forward) within the song.

I ve been planning to do a video demo for quite while... maybe now is the time :D

cheers
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
Will have a look and get a new version online through the weekend I hope.

Im not sure that I have a post on the first page, but ill check it...

thanks
[G1 Apps and Games] serial thriller:
My bad, I didn't look closely to see it wasn't you. Maybe ping that person and ask them to put the debug info up :) Let me know when you have an update so I can try again.
[G1 Apps and Games] vizax:
Ahhh, glad to know this.. it makes sense now, lol! I did some more testing last night, and it crashed once, but for no reason that I could tell. If I can figure out how to reproduce it, I will post a log for you.

One thing I ran into last night, that I would like to request a feature for...the ability to resume a music file from where you left off.

I listen to ALOT of audio books, sadly not all of them are split the same, nor in small chunks. Currently I'm listening to some Star Wars audio books (yes, I am a SW nerd.), and the book is split into four 45 minute segments (ugh, an abridged book, *shiver*). When I stoped exited the player earlier yesterday and resumed it later last night, the player had jumped to the beginning of my album list. I then spent 2 or 3 minutes trying to scan to the spot I had left off. Not so bad really....but some books come in 3 or 4 hour segments... ugh...

at any rate, there my 2 cents worth... again, GREAT JOB!
[G1 Apps and Games] vizax:
Can always hit up an admin, I'm sure they wouldn't mind helping out with editing a post and/or thread title.
[G1 Apps and Games] IdidYourMomLastNight:
I too would like to see a Auto Rotate for NON Root users

1. Auto rotate

2. Artist Bio
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
Hi guys,

New version available (v1.0.18):

http://abrantix.org/rockon.php

This one includes (experimental) support for playlists, and also numerous bug fixes (and probably also new bugs were introduced) ...

To use the playlists go to menu->playlists and just choose one (it might take a little while when you choose it - still need to give some feedback to the user on the UI over what is going on there).

It loads every playlist that the android OS recognizes + a dynamic playlist of the recently added songs (in the last 15 days by default - but its configurable in the preferences [menu->more->preferences]).

Also, if you choose a playlist and then use search things might not work - consider yourself warned :P.

This playlist thing was quite a lot of work as it required a lot of internal redesign and it is not finished yet, however, I will be putting this on hold for a while now and will dedicate the time to polish the numerous rough edges, mainly on the UI side, but in the end theyll be all-around. Also will kick off last.fm scrobbling integration in parallel.

Try it and have your say!

@serial-thriller please check if the latest version works for you.
[G1 Apps and Games] serial thriller:
Fabrantes, still blows up :(
[G1 Apps and Games] knoxbrder:
Looks like a great music player!

I tried to buy on the market but got the "Invalid credit card" error I got with another UK app. (I am in the USA).

I will try the paypal option on your site shortly.

Seems to work great with cupcake so far.

Small bug:

- when I hit "Clear notifications" the RockOn notification disappears until the next song starts. (same thing happens if you actually choose the notification)

Small request:

- you show the track length in minutes/seconds on the screen, could you show the current position minutes/seconds on the left of the slider?

Insane request:

- I love the GUI look and feel, could you add an option to do the same thing for videos? I imagine the cover art is harder to match, but I have seen it done on a PC. I would love the same kind of interface for videos, would have to have a way to nicely go between fullscreen and the chooser/control GUIs of course.

EDIT:

paypal donation went through :-) just couldn't buy it from the market
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
Great, thanks! Video support will still take a while. And I would probably do it on a separate app, otherwise this one starts to become too much complex and taking too much space...

Regarding the notifications I will probably add a preference option to not have notifications at all. And will add the song progress too

Cheers
[G1 Apps and Games] knoxbrder:
I understand about the video, like I said "Insane Request". But I like the look and feel you have come up with.

Today's small bug(s):

- as someone else noted, when you hit pause/next/prev on bluetooth hardware it starts the normal media player and controls it. you end up with two songs overlapping, freaky

- the bluetooth hickups slightly during playback, could be the firmware since it is pre-release, but I have not noticed it with the stock music player or the video player I have

Todays almost insane request:

- how about using the same interface to preview/view pictures?

I don't suppose you are interested in letting anyone else help (for free) to add "insane features"?
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
about the bluetooth I cant really tell... Ill see if I can get one to try it out

about getting this for pictures... would be interesting, but also more work... which takes me to the last point you referred: getting people on board.

Ive thought about opening up the source for the community (or at least to some people interested in joining the development) for a while now.

What makes things a little bit complicated here is the fact that rockon is being sold on the Market - even if not much [so far has sold ~110£] - so... how to share revenues and things like that are what makes things hard for now... but the player would benefit a lot if more people contributed. Im not sure about what to do in the future, but extending the team is certainly an option I am considering...

Anyway I definitely wouldn't mind starting a new separate project for picture viewing (using the same, or similar visualization techniques that might even reutilize part of the code of RockOn) with anyone that is willing to (I would not be the leading developer though, for time constraints).

So anyone that is interested in doing something along these lines, just let me know...

Cheers,

Filipe
[G1 Apps and Games] naTTan:
Great player i enjoy using it, if possible, allow me to add which music is detected by the app? it's kind of taking in my notifications and ringtones too.
[G1 Apps and Games] knoxbrder:
I would enjoy working on a picture (and maybe video) version of your software. I always learn faster from example than starting from scratch.

The few Android programs I have worked on so far were simple: couple command line utilities, couple scripts, mythtv remote control, simple widget for ahome.

I think you have done a great job so far, so I was willing to donate a few dollars. I usually give away my little programs for free (and often open source) because this is just for fun for me. Since any work I do on this is based off your code what you do with it is up to you in this case.

If you end up making a fortune off anything I add then I hope you feel you should give me something but I will leave that up to your personal morals; but I'm really not doing it for money. I'm just expecting to add some features I would like to see, and that hopefully other people will find useful.

PM me if you're interested. Give me a tarball of the source and I'll have a prototype of the picture stuff working in a day since you already did all the hard work creating the GUI :-)
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
Im highly interested! But I'd propose to do it from scratch (although we may reutilize parts of RockOn code). Let's start a new thread, get as many developers and designers on board as we can and get feedback from the users to see what features they would like to have in the picture viewer. In the meantime we set up the project on google code (open sourced, thus also free or whatever and start working on it. Then we make the best picture viewer for Android :-).

what do you say? anyone else interested in joining?

@nattan: yes, I will be adding filters for those in future releases (cant commit to a date though)
[G1 Apps and Games] bjehsus:
i'm up for helping out, man
[G1 Apps and Games] serial thriller:
Any word on another build? Whatever you did didn't fix mine :(
[G1 Apps and Games] vizax:
I'd offer to help, but my programming knowledge is limited to VB6/.NET, HTML, CSS, and PHP/MySQL (which I'm still learning).... but if I can help in any way, please let me know! :rolleyes: (like you want a noob like me helping!) :D
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
@serialthriller if you could post another error log would be great

@vizax everyone is welcome, if you just want to learn as we go thats cool too.
[G1 Apps and Games] serial thriller:
Fab, well, once I hooked it up to pull the log, it worked :)

Awesome App.... I will play with it a little bit and give some feedback but liking it so far.
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
just to give you an idea of how the next version might be looking like here is a screen...

http://abrantix.org/images/rockon-screenshots/device-transulcent.png

what would you change?
[G1 Apps and Games] knoxbrder:
I would like to see the current location in the song to the left of the slider.

So when you are searching for a particular spot in a book/song you don't have to guess.
[G1 Apps and Games] bjehsus:
Still hoping for an artist-album list view :)

Even so much as just a label for the artist above their albums, ie;

artist name

[album art]

[album art]

artist name

[album art]

[album art]

And perhaps the full album list on left swipe could be a proper hierarchical tree view of albums, and artists?
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
Hi all,

there is a new version (v1.1) on the website:

http://abrantix.org/files/rockon/RockOn.apk

- lots of bugs related with the headset buttons were fixed

- a bug that would sometimes drain the battery also fixed

- new translucent background

- now it remembers the last song you were playing (and also the position within the song)

- new controls

- tap songname - play/pause

- double tap songname - next

- tap album - songlist

... that i can remember

unfortunately I could not start last-fm scrobbling yet :(...

check the screens and have your say!

http://abrantix.org/rockon-screenshots.php
[G1 Apps and Games] vizax:
Have I mentioned how much I love you! :D
[G1 Apps and Games] MontAlbert:
love tha app. are you working on a cupcake widget for it? i love the stock music widget... now, a rockon widget would, well, rock!

***edit*** i installed most recent one from website- atrackdog tells me i dont have the most recent version? i have 1.0.19 and says newest is 1.1?
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
hi, newest is v1.1. I'm not yet working on the widget, but will be in the next couple of weeks! just clearing out the bugs and polishing some stuff before I move on. Im moving also in the direction of being able to have themes for the player, so anyone can use what they prefer.

cheers
[G1 Apps and Games] knoxbrder:
1.1 looks nice.

Couple small bugs I noticed:

- dragging left (back 30s) works on the song name and song position, but dragging right (forward 30s) only works on the song name, not the song position

- the preferences menu appears transparent as well until you click somewhere else on the screen which makes it very hard to read

- on bluetooth, next and prev track do the same thing as pause/play (so I have 3 pause/play buttons and no next/prev buttons) (this is with a Motorola T505 that works fine with the stock media player)

Keeps getting nicer,

Mike
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
hi knox,

I have to go check about the headset thing, you have specific buttons for next/previous right?

try double pressing the play button to see if it goes to the next song.
[G1 Apps and Games] knoxbrder:
I definitely have prev/next/pause because they have always worked in the stock music player and in the video players.

I will try a bluetooth headset when I get home (this one is for the car).

I will also try doubletap play (and the other two buttons) when I am driving home in about 15 minutes.
[G1 Apps and Games] rushless:
This media app is the same as the others (including video), because they all access the same resources and have no ability to manipulate audio or video due to the locked down OS.

The funniest comments are about the video apps, since people assert one has better video quality over another- they use the same codecs. for MP3 and MP4.

Coreplayer would rock on the G1, but not possible due to the requirment to interpret through the byte code and evil java layer. Coreplayer team tried to get it to work, but gave up.

Let us hope we see more API access for hardware in a future version of the OS and SDK.

As far as an audio app, I see no difference unless a way is found to tap into the audio stream to enable an EQ and pre-amp (like Coreplarer has).

Even evil Apple's OS allows access to adjust audio characteristics other than volume.