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[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Rozenthal:
Um... If you don't have the Tegic key at all, I'm fairly certain that simply importing it will not work. It's probable that who ever made that ROM has left out word suggestion.

And also, I would not recommend importing registry keys from other devices. It could really mess up your phone.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Rozenthal:
About your first part, I don't think that's possible with FKBD. This keyboard does not interact with hardware keyboards. All of it's functions are controlled only by skin layouts, it does not know what you're doing with hardware keyboard.

For the bug reports - thank you. I dunno how that bug with triple dot slipped through, since I remember fixing it for WVGA (and in WVGA indeed this bug is not present). Must've been the older version used for VGA then.

And the \ button is intentional, since the / button is included in the normal layouts. I figured it would make more sense to keep / on the text layouts, since it would get used more often (for web addresses etc).
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] fagon:
I was confused! Now I get your ideia.

I'm configured my own layout. I'm making it step by step.

Thanks for your help and advice!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] raxsv:
I was little in hurry while typing previous post so first of all - Thanks for making this excelent software!

About the hardware keyboard - anyone know some way how to customize hardware keys? For example hardcode change of keys to always use national keys (numeric keys could be after all accessed with shift).

I have made my own customized version of Czech keyboard (should work along with the standard czech keyboard) for HTC Touch Pro and Touch Diamond so I'm adding it too. Main idea was to place national (with diacritic) characters above the standard ones. For example É above E, Ř above R and so on. Reason why to do this is that czech language have more special characters than 10 (čďéěíňóřšťúůýž), so they wont all fit on the first line anyway.

Spend only about an hour learning how to and making this (thanks againg for making this so easy to understand!) so I'm expecting some minor bugs too - please report if anyone test it.

I also added two lines to skin-02-vga-port-00-types.txt (from landscape types) so I'm attaching that too.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] A&A:
Message to fagon & Rozenthal :)

Hey fagon & Rozenthal :) thanks a lot for your help!!!

Since I really love this keyboard and (last but not least) I spent 1 full day to tweak, resize and re-skin it I have decided to flash another ROM on my device and that has been a big step since (beside the Tegic key flaw) I was EXTREMELY happy with my old ROM!!!

With the Tegic key being totally there things are obviously very different ;)

Now the name and word suggestion options are no longer greyed out and I can freely check the boxes to enable/disable them!

May this post serve as inspiration to all fellow members who do not suspect their ROM's to be the culprit of some anomalies in 3rd party (genuinely good) applications like FingerKeyboard ;)

Now my problem (dear Rozenthal) remains the one of TextPlus (mentioned in earlier posts)... Even having freshly flashed a different ROM and having tested with both enabled/disabled word suggestion, FingerKeyboard still does not work with TextPlus :mad:

This is driving me nuts!!! TextPlus works with any other silly keyboard (default, Resco, you name it) but just not with FingerKeyboard!!!

Can anybody help me to understand what all other keyboards have that FingerKeyboard does not have? There must be some elements which make a predictive software interact with a keyboard that FingerKeyboard somehow does not implement... Is there any chance that Exidler could double check this? I would be seriuosly grateful and gladly PayPal you guys a few beers :D

Please let me know :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Incognito09:
Trying with Htc touch cruise 09 . I used the old ver. with old ppc before and love it !:D thx for this update.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] jaypeev_9:
Thanks you for sharing your work! You did a great job. :cool:
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] fagon:
Rozenthal :

I saw that you really spent a lot of time making this keyboard really look professional! So, I uninstaled Resco Kbd that I used before!

Well... but I have another dificultie: I think that key 'TXT' doesn't work.

1.- Before, I thoth it was because I changed positions and add some new keys and letters/symbols.

- Also, skin-01-predtxt.txt is original and I maintain there original sentenses.

- Then, I try use other leyouts and problem persists...

2.- Otherwise, in file skin-02-qvga-port-15-ptg.txt that I've modified, I have line

Key 2 34 28 31 1,1,4,1 txt0 txt1 ,, <---SPACE'S/TAB's---> SL: predtxt

- but nothing happen when I press TXT key and so I think that it doesnt work...

I have some dificul in english language but seems that it must access to another layout with 30 CScheme/Actions from skin-01-predtxt.txt. Isn't it?

What am I missing?

Thanks.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Rozenthal:
Well, you know, we don't lie when we troubleshoot some of the reported problems and conclude it has to be "the other software" that's causing the problems :)

Anyway, glad you solved the T9 issue. Hope your new ROM isn't bad :)

As for the second part and TextPlus, again, I have to say it's very hard for me or Exidler to determine what could be causing this issue, since we have no experience with TextPlus. I feel that this question is more for the TextPlus guys, rather then us. And from what I understand, they have a really good customer support, so perhaps you should really try to check with them and find out if it's something we missed or something they missed...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Omega Ra:
did anyone ever make a blue/black skin without the arrows for both portrait and landscape for this version? the keys are still a little small for my taste and I keep hitting the back arrow when I try to hit space and end up typing a word in the middle of another word...

EDIT: Forgot to mention WQVGA...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Rozenthal:
I have barely had time to look at predictive texting. It's something that Giannis added into his VGA, so I would recommend you jump over to his thread in Diamond section (you can find the link in first post) and ask him if you got any issues about this.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] A&A:
Of course I know that ;) ...Only sometimes the temptation to use that as a "quick and easy answer" must be very strong, but it is nice to know that you can resist that temptation :D

I suspect that the TextPlus guys will conclude that it has to be "the other software" that's causing the problems... They obviusly do not resist temptations :D

Just out of curiosity: Where did you hear that they have a really good customer support??? The moment you say that you use their program on a WM6.1 (cooked-non-official ROM) they switch off their incoming audio channel... Do you get what I mean? :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] NikPraskaton:
Hmmm SMS name suggestion doesnt work anymore with newest duttys v3 rom... can anyone confirm that?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] chinnyman:
make sure you dont have double of contacts in your contacts!!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] NikPraskaton:
Nope I dont. SIM card is empty, only nrs on phone.. When I switch to standard keyboards its working fine.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] taxtax:
Greek version with SMS160

Here is a version of Fingerkeyboard for Greek users with only 3 languages:

1.English (original)

2.Greek (by me)

3.SMS (by me) Allows to sent 160 character SMS in greek language.

http://rapidshare.com/files/224574578/FingerKeyb-2.1-WVGA-gr-taxtax.cab
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] mischief4l:
Im looking for a good SIP that will work on a Windows CE 5.0 Device (Its a barcode scanner).

Any ideas?

These cabs wont work but I am a fan of Finger Keyboard. I use it on my Kaiser
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Rozenthal:
I had similar problem on Dutty 2.7, and was going mad over it. Everything was set as it was supposed to be, the registry settings, the Config tool, I tried all possible options in HTC keyboard menu, switched the little ABC / XT9 on and off and nothing seemed to work.

I could not get it working without installing XT9 disable, but then I got the ugly WinMo style suggestions. So I went back, removed XT9 disable cab, again played with all possible settings, and then it somehow started working on it's own.

I cannot confirm this 100%, but I think it started working after I installed SIP change. Maybe you can try the same procedures I went through and see if it works?

My current settings:

SIP change installed

XT9 settings:

- spell corr. OFF

- word completion in XT9 ON

- other boxes OFF

- HTC keyboard little XT9 switch set to XT9

Config tool:

- name suggestion ON

- word suggestion OFF

And it works just fine.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] V@no:
Hello!

First of all thank you this great keyboard, really impressive job!

Finally I'm able type in russian even with my wide thumbs :D

I've been trying change the default russian layout from ЙЦУКЕНГ to ЯВЕРТЫ, I did all the modifications, changed LayoutBegin to "rus2" changed file skin-02-qvga-port-08-rus.txt to skin-02-qvga-port-88-rus.txt restarted FK config, my new layout not showed.

removed original skin files - my layout showed fine...

re-read the doc-about-skin-new.txt, double checked all the parameters - everything is fine. Restored original files - my layout gone again.

Finally I renamed my new skin-02-qvga-port-88-rus.txt to skin-02-qvga-port-88-rus2.txt and voala - my layout is in the list.

So, what I'm getting to is that there is nothing in the documentation explains that the layout name is taken from filename itself and not from LayoutBegin tag. It might obvious for some (most) people, but numbers in the filenames through me out the course...

Would be nice add this little note to the documentation.

Thank you.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] xda2_haseeb:
Does anyone have working OEM of this keyboard?? I need it plz, THNX :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Sopis:
hello...I love this keyobard but there is one little bug I have noticed...it was there in previous version as well...

in the upper left corner (where start menu is by default) I can see a little piece of key from the keyboard...is it possible to fix this?

it is not a huge glitch, I can stick with it...but if there is any way to fix that that would be even better :)

Viva la FingerKeyb :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Tsointsoin:
Swiss french keyboard layout?

Hi!

Thanks a lot for this awesome keyboard! The best one i've ever used so far! Congrats.

However, is there a possibility to have a Swiss (french) keyboard layout?

Thanks in advance for your answer!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Rozenthal:
Check post 4.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Rozenthal:
Check post 307, it might be what you're looking for.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Rozenthal:
We are aware of that. It's listed in Bug tracker, but we don't have a solution for that so far, since we can't seem to figure out what exactly is causing this. You can partially fix it yourself by disabling hiding the bottom bars.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] TenisConcordia:
hvala ti puno....;)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] xda2_haseeb:
THNX ALOT, i searched by the words OEM but didnt find it :( SORRY!! for bothering u :D
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Sopis:
thanks for letting me know :)

As I said tho, minor bug...still it is the best app ever :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ALLEN009001:
thanks for Rozenthal, its a great job and work on my hd, but can u help me make a chinese keyboard like 倉頡? if yes to do this then i can type easily to my sms and mail to someone on my job. thank you very much my friend.:)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] arniebe:
Feature request

Thanks for this awesome app. Great work.

This might be the perfect app to place a shorthand functionality (for lack of a better word).

How this works would be: I enter a word "/appt" and press a key on FingerKeyboard. It will then automatically extend this to "appointment" or "/addr" would be replaced with my address. You get the point. The definitions would come out of a modifiable textfile. Performance is an issue, so this isn't supposed to be a big dictionary, rather just a short collection.

I think this would be nice to have.

Thanks again.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] precsmo:
To whoever ever made this app, I want to tell you that you are actually out of your mind!!! You are having great deal of problems in the future with the app you have made for us!!!!!

And the problem is, I believe you are in deep trouble for improving for the future releases because it has already freaking awesome now!!!!! And it is unbelievable that this app is totally free!!!!!!

And I wanna to tell you that your keyboard is absolutely lovely and it really make my Touch HD work as a truly awesome device with the app!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Rozenthal:
Well, with it's current features, this keyboard already covers this area. You can enter predefined text, long press a key, and have it automatically typed on the screen.

Right now, it's only like 10 shortcuts, but there is a VGA / QVGA version available that supports a much larger number of customizable predefined shortcuts. I'm playing with an idea to make a whole layout that would have only such custom-made keys, and it would be customizable through Config tool.

This will probably come in some of the future releases.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Rozenthal:
Hello Allen,

we have had similar questions about Chinese layout. I'm completely unfamiliar with how many letters do you need for this? What is the total character number? If it's within reasonable 40-ish, then it would not be a problem.

You would just need to edit one of the existing layouts and replace the ABC characters with Chinese symbols.

We also received an interesting proposal from a Chinese community that's using FingerKeyb and would like to develop a support for Pin-yin style input. They have a good idea, but I'm still waiting to hear final word from Exidler if this is possible to incorporate.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Rozenthal:
I agree - we're nuts :)

Thanks :D
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] NikPraskaton:
WHOA!! Works even better to me now! The suggested names are above the keyboard. Thanks man
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Rozenthal:
Yup, HTC style :) Can you confirm that it started working AFTER installing SIP Change?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Tsointsoin:
Thanks for your quick answer... =)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ALLEN009001:
Dear Rozenthal,

thanks for ur reply, I have already changed the keyboard layout to Chinese.

I am going to attach a file contained all the chinese characterics combination for your reference. Thanks:)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] NikPraskaton:
Nope, I had SIP change already installed.. your T9 disable cab solved the issue..
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] TeDeV:
is there a possibility that you can place an option to hide the top bar too, and not only the bottom one?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Fking1:
thank you for that amazing keyboard, the best i've ever tried

BUT, it makes my opera 9.5 crashes all the time. I have to restart the phone to be able to start opera again.

On opera's sites i read that it might be buggy when used with 3rd party keyboards, but since you all guys use it, i thought there might be some trick to make them go along? :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] firbec:
great program, but

how could I use this keyboard in landscape position as default ?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] pinny:
I tried to install the QVGA version on the Treo PRO, but it gave me an error that the skin is not good,

Should it work?

Which version should work for it?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] krakout:
Ooh thanks for that, nice one :) Downloading and installing...

[EDIT] Oops, just saw it's WVGA only... is it possible to have VGA?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] maklik:
i think your layout has some problem, i had made a new one, it can be used, but another problem is found, by using 倉頡,

it is combination of 1 to 5 倉頡codes for each chinese word, if just only change the layout,

i can only just type out the code of 倉頡 but not the chinese characters...

may be it is very confusing, i had captured a screen, hope it can help you understand.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] maklik:
just found that, some applications (eg. Opera browser) can accept 倉頡 code and type out the chinese char successfully, but SMS, Notes can't
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] futureshock:
Hi, there i also have this issue on my Blackstone....

any hint how to get FingerKBD as default keyboard after softreset??

please help
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] utak3r:
Use SIPChange! It was said SO MANY times.... :rolleyes:
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ALLEN009001:
I DOWLOAD ON MY HD BUT WHY I CAN'T TYPE CHINESE WORD LIKE U, ANYWAY I'M THANKS OF YOU TO HELP ME AND I WAITTING YOUR GUYS CAN MAKE THIS PERFECT WORK.:):o
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] TeDeV:
guys, since i am using a Diamond 2, is it possible (somehow) to hide the top bar (start menu , etc) when the phone is left or right oriented so that i can have more space? i have used the option to hide the bottom bar but i want to hide the top one as well, that would give me more space to work with :)

should i refer to a specific post for that? because fingerkeyboard is everywhere in this forum and i don't think it is just me who would like to see that
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] A&A:
Dear Rozenthal,

After my post http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3672948&postcount=477 I fear that I have reached a dead end and much to my regret I am left with no better choice but to discontinue using your amazing keyboard :mad::mad::mad:

Since there seem to be no way to make FingerKeyboard interact with the predictive software (for which I have build ideal databases in more languages over the time) there is no point to keep FK installed.

Thanks to you and to your team for all your kind support... which unfortunately did not lead to the needed results.

Hopefully in a newer FingerKeyboard version there will be better compatibility and interaction with other related applications (such as predictive software) and -in that case- I will gladly return to FK... I kept on my laptop all the files I made with the special FingerKeyboard skins and settings in case I could use them (or part of them) in future versions.

Take good care and good luck with your wonderful project ;)

B&B lover :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] firbec:
How can I use Keyboard2, when I change names (numbers...) in my adressbook. There is FNGKB icon down in the middle, but I can´t open it. Is disabled or what ?

I can use Keyboard2 only for messages :mad:
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Rozenthal:
I really can't see why Opera would crash with FKBD. It worked without any problems for me, on different Opera builds, and different ROM's. It's likely something on your device that's causing it to crash. As always - probably some combination of FKBD and 3rd software that's crashing it.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Rozenthal:
None of the available versions support square screens such as Treo Pro. It would require rewriting the skin txt files. QVGA is a good start, since it's 320x240. You would have to play a bit with it to get it right, but it shouldn't be too much work.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Rozenthal:
No, this is not possible. At least not with FKBD, and I honestly doubt that it can be done at all. Bottom bar is still there on your screen, only thing is that the FKDB is "covering" it.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Rozenthal:
As I said over and over again, I really don't think your problem has something to do with FKBD. The level of integration of FKBD into WinMo is very simple and is already maxed out. The reason I say this is because there are predictive texting software that work with FingerKeyb (we had people confirm it's working with EZ input, for example).

So, while I'm sorry you're giving it up, I would once again point you to talk to TextPlus people and see if they can help.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Rozenthal:
You didn't provide much info. What device are you using? Do you have any other 3rd party keyboards? Are you using a 3rd party address book? What are you show / hide bottom bar options?

We never had such a problem reported before. FKDB works normally on my Touch HD, in all applications and areas.

What about e-mails, notes, calendar, google maps (...) - does it work in these applications?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] TeDeV:
hi rozenthal thank you for ur answer, indeed fkbd is covering it up! and i managed to do what i want with this program that i am attaching below, a member from here fixed it (can't remember his name), what it does is take the start bar from the top and place it above the bottom bar. so when i placed the fkbd opened, it covered both of them!! just great. there is one problem with that.....

i only want this to happen when i open this keyboard, so what you could do is call this exe app (if the user has choose it from the keyboard options) when the keyboard is open and call it again when the keyboard is closed or hiden.

it really gave me more space to type when i did it, but it troubling me if i have to run the exe all the time.

check the attachment and you will understand how this work :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] firbec:
I use Keyboard2 only one day :rolleyes: I have HTC Touch HD, no any other keyboard software on it (just original),

First time I make soft reset, but now with hard reset :D everything works fine.

thx a lot,

but still want to know, how can I change automatic to landscape position (especially in messages) ?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] TeDeV:
you need a program like gyrator or changescreen_conf
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Rozenthal:
Strange bugs live in your phone then :)

As for the landscape, you have to minimize the keyboard before rotating and open it back up after you switch to landscape. In some cases the keyboard will minimize automatically and you only need to bring it back up to show in landscape.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Rozenthal:
Glad you found a solution!

However, I'm not very fond of the idea to have keyboard run additional programs when being opened. I think it would introduce a whole bunch of problems, and of course slow down the device.

Also, not to mention that the top bar sometimes contains confirmation buttons that need to be pressed. So if the top bar was hidden it would make some apps very hard to use etc.

So, as far as the screen space is concerned I think we've kind of reached the maximum point - of course, unless you wish to give up arrow buttons. I personally don't.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Feldhege:
Alot of people use SIPChange but on my Omnia i910 it didn't seem to work reliably. I am now using IMSelector and that works perfectly.

Robb
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] fagon:
I need your valuable assistance again:

I've instaled file "FingerKeyb-2.1-QVGA-arrows-Giannis86.cab" (ResolutionBegin 240 x 320). I changed the size of keys and now spare space at the base of the keyboard.

However, I still can not reduce the overall size of the keyboard to fill that space.

I test without success to change "Size 320 NNN" in skin-02-qvga-port-00-types.txt and "Fill 0 0 240 NNN" in skin-02-qvga-port-15-ptg.txt

Is it possible change that? If so, where? Any tips?

Thanks again and again!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] RobertRS:
Support needed: SMS suggestion

Support needed: SMS suggestion

first, thanks a lot for this awesome support! It is a real gem!

but I have issues with the sms suggestion. it works for the first time after a soft reset when wiriting a text. but the next time, it wont work anymore.

do you have any idea why and how to fix???

i use a htc blackstone, original rom, htc ezinput 2.0 installed.

thanks a lot!!!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Rozenthal:
Examples for WVGA, but it's same principle for QVGA...

Did you also change ResolutionBegin in skin-02-qvga-port-15-ptg.txt? All resolution declarations are explained in doc-about-skins.txt, in your FingerKeyb root folder.

I can't think of anything else... You may need to change global positioning of the keys, within the display box.

For example, in skin port eng txt:

Key 2 5 44 62

distance of key from the left edge of screen

distance of key from top edge of screen

key screen dimensions in pixels

So, you may need to change the vertical positions.