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[Shift Development] thaihugo:
If you see it connected in snapvue, make sure you run WMDC manually on vista side from start menu. You should see the full green based interface
[Shift Development] SixFive7:
Hi Thaihugo,

I tried that, but WMDC doesnt register a device. I even tried manually killing and restarting wmdc.exe.

Does the usbtool work when the phone is on?

thank you already,

Jori Huisman
[Shift Development] thaihugo:
disable advanced network functionality in settings connection USB to PC
[Shift Development] markus1983:
Hi!!

works SDHC 16GB CLASS 4 ON THIS ROM?
[Shift Development] smne11:
thnx good room
[Shift Development] FOOFTR:
What about cab files for Age Of Reason....which I really like BTW as a lite rom. I get the not enough permissions message when I try and install office cab...any ideas?
[Shift Development] thaihugo:
This is probably a faulty cab. Maybe you can find another source?
[Shift Development] FOOFTR:
Thanks, I used the installer for the same file and went well. Currently using this ROM with Opera 9.5, Real VGA and a few other little progs...working very well. Occaisionally it slows right down and I need to leave it for about a minute, but every other ROM has too so nothing different.

Thanks for your work on this thaihugo.
[Shift Development] FOOFTR:
I'm getting a lot of frozen screens on Age of Reason...which then in turn stops Vista from working. Changing from Windows to WinMo takes about 30 seconds and the screen fades very slowly...seems liek something keeps locking it up? Even a fresh install of the ROM without extra s/ware is doing it. Got any ideas thaihugo?
[Shift Development] thaihugo:
Never seen that. Try to see if you lock vista even with usbtools disabled adn strictly no intercation between the two.
[Shift Development] FOOFTR:
Hi thaihugo...Vista is disconnected, no interaction. Seems winmo is freezing when not in use after a while. All the power save options have been switched off in winmo. It is wierd thing...i00 rom did it too but only occasionally. I'll try a different one and see what happens.
[Shift Development] FOOFTR:
Have installed your base ROM from the Kitchen rar...seems to be all running well again. Maybe mine has some issue with either the phone or GPS part (I don't use either) so will just stick to standard from now on. Thansk for makign the rom available.
[Shift Development] thaihugo:
I don't know what your problem can be. It can also be the radio, because it comes from a different device.
[Shift Development] andrey-hsms:
error 262

hello all, now I try to install this ROM. after download I run CustomRUU at vista side, click yes and update and I have error 262 and now, if I try to change system to SnapVUE I see a black screen(( what should I do to install this ROM correctly? Sorry, I am a beginner.

PS sorry for my english too

thanks a lot
[Shift Development] FOOFTR:
Is your snapvue hard spl'd? If not do a thread search for it...
[Shift Development] andrey-hsms:
Is your snapvue hard spl'd? sorry, I am beyond one's depth. I don`t have a backup my later snapvue and now this system does`t work. I saw a snapvue.cab at this forum, but how I may run it without WM/snapvue((

thank you
[Shift Development] FOOFTR:
You could try resetting snap vue using this tool (assume you've tried tacking out battery?)....

http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=60&cat=0&dl_id=27

Before you try doing any ROM loads you need to change the construct of snaspvue via hard spl. A lot has been posted about this and it is easy to do....
[Shift Development] pharao:
There are also an awful lot of "suckers" who only come into forums like this one to "suck out" information from others - and having a rather gutsy sense of entitlement about it - w/o ever delivering anything back.

Fact is that I was able to discover that disassembly guide all on my own - including the pictures that go along with it - w/o ever having to insult anyone about it.

So if I was able to accomplish this on my own, then why is that to much to be asked of you?!

From my reading of these threads I encountered an appalling lack of willingness among many complainers to simply take the time and RTFM (Read The F*ing Manual).

All the info required to SPL your Shift and then Update the ROM (just as the whole liberation process) are posted in here FREE OF CHARGE.

And still for to many folks it seems like if they are not spoon fed all the answers, its justification for them to come in here and complain.

Complain about what?! These ROMs are a free service after all and IT ALL WORKS if done right.

As for your final grudge, let me ask you which other UMPC offers built in wireless phone service, combined with a fully functional PC, PDA unit, WiFi, Bluetooth, Tilt Screen & Touch Screen, GPS, Tri(Quad?)-Band Phone /w UMTS ability and free choice of service provider (forget about that one /w iPhones), plus a real world keyboard?

NONE - and I went all the way to Honkong to check.

Sure, some others offer some of these features.

But nobody else offers all of them.

As most of us realize the HTC Shift had been crippled by a business design which tried to save on Microsoft related licensing fees at the expense of functionality.

But any knowledgeable user could and should have known about that by simply studying the specs of a system which after all did cost in excess of US$1500 at one time.

I know that the PDA side had been "castrated" by HTC and only decided to buy one after I had learned of the Shift-Liberation Project on XDA.

Yet there are folks who still insist on running Vista on this baby, only to then complain about the lack of speed and usability.

Heeelloooo - nobody would claim its a smart thing to run Vista on a low speed PC, but for some reason folks insist on doing it on a 1GB RAM UMPC Shift unit.

That's why you can put Windows XP and even Ubuntu on this baby and XDA tells you exactly how.

And finally, it is the pinnacle of idiocy to blame these new ROMs for their lack of Wifi and Bluetooth support!

The PDA unit doesn't have physical access to the WiFi and Bluetooth parts, just as it can not access the SD/USB bus, except through the PC side (where they are connected).

So stop asking for a new ROM to include support for these devices, as that is physically impossible, except by driver through the PC side.

I for one thank thaihugo and all the other Developers on XDA for their excellent work and I also plan to make another donation down the road.

Now I have a large screen GPS unit, which I can also use as a full fledged PDA and Computer whenever the need arises.

No other unit offers the same flexibility and functionality in such a compact design as a Fully Liberated and Reasoned HTC Shift does!
[Shift Development] joy.d:
hehe, i´m with you :-)

But not all people are suckers, the most problem (i think) is, the understood. Many countries, many languages and many misunderstands. (like me, i´m not a really native english speaker)

Well, i learned english here, but many things I don´t understand. If I something understand I tell it to my native speakers, and much will become good..

I´m a Windows XP client developer in a big company, but whole not perfect with WinCE related things ;-)

But i´m happy about all the people they are stupid questions:

sometimes I learnd something about that .-)
[Shift Development] vulcan_gr:
the truth is that if your are not an experenced user (pc newbie) you get mixed up with all the input from xda in the threads... input and comments all together in threads make it difficult for an 1st timer to understand ...

--normally they should not try messing up with their devices if they are not sure of what they are about to to do and if that process is reversable or not (for roms)...--

as a matter of fact there should be a section besides the 3 sections of the shift (shift-upgrading-accesories) full of stickies with how to ... unrepliable sticky posts...

there is a big load of info buried in threads with commends ...

personally i tried to install linux and i stopped cause i could not figure out what to do when i got my first problems with the kernel version ... i'm not a newbie but i needed the device in one piece for my job ...(unfortunatelly my compaq burned)

maybe thats why people bust your balls every now and then with stupid questions...

not everyone has the same inteligence or involved so much in this to understand everything in 1st encounter...

think about that...

yours,
[Shift Development] pharao:
Mr. Vulcan please let's at least try to be real in this thread, shall we?

If you "are not sure what you are about to do with your device", then you shouldn't be doing it in the first place.

I've also installed Linux on my Shift and I had an awfull(!) lot of problems with it.

That was because I at first installed SuSE, then RedHat on it, before I finally figured out that only Ubuntu will work, with the drivers offered on this site.

So I spend a few days hacking kernels in vain, so what?!

I've also upgraded my internal Hard Disk, but first had to find out the hard way that only 1.8" disks with a specific interface (PATA ZIF) and very narrow height limits will do.

Your whole line of argument makes no sense.

If I'm not a car mechanic and I still insist on taking my engine apart, then anyone in their right mind will righfully call me an idiot for it.

So I call all those eternal complainers in here out likewise.

By now I've in finished ROMing up my Shift and the result is just GORGEOUS.

I have GPS, Voice Phone (gosh, I can make hands free phone calls via the speaker now and it feels so futurama like), the extra memory allowed me to install dozens of apps and I'm even able to back it all up via Network share.

Finally, finally my HTC Shift is that wonder gizmo it was supposed to be the day it hit the shelves.

And what do the usual internet morons do in here?

Rather than calling HTC out and demanding that they offer those volunteers some full time positions with the company, they come in here and complain, complain, complain.

Some people in this world just make me wanna puke!

But I say THANKS A TON to those wonderful folks who allowed us to finally realize the full potential of our HTC device - and all of that free of charge!
[Shift Development] vulcan_gr:
well actually you missed the point i was trying to make ...

i have no problem with the shift, or with the people that make so much efford to evolve it, these guys do a great job, we could not ask for more ...

my problem is with all those new people that do not search the forum ... they just pop out questions...

+ threads with tons of replys...
[Shift Development] rosrog:
wm 6.1 on snapvue

is it possible to replace the 6.0 version with the 6.1 on winmo? I'm not sure where to find that if already done. I've searched through the threads. Please anyone knows?
[Shift Development] DalvuS:
I've tested all custom roms and I recommend the ones by thaihugo, sadly that he didn't update the ones existed, that's 6.0
[Shift Development] thaihugo:
I tryed previously this kind of hacking, but didn't find it as reliable. I might give it another try soon.
[Shift Development] pharao:
Sorry if I got your wong here Vulcan, because I (mis)read your post as trying to advocate for those eternal complainers.

My Shift is just soooo perfect now. I can even read PDF files (Picsel Viewer), so I now have my very own eBook reader that can go for hours and hours on one battery charge.

Better than that silly monochromatic "kindle"!

Gosh, did HTC really hide all those feature away just to save a tiny amount in licensing fees?
[Shift Development] pharao:
Is there any real advantage in 6.1 compared to 6.0?

I mean, I was never a fan of "version number hunting" - always being after bragging rights for having the latest (but not greatest) version installed.

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it". I would not want to give up even a single MB or precious storage space on the SnapVue side, if it doesn't give me some real benefit in turn.
[Shift Development] DalvuS:
I think this will answer your question :)

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/meet/version-compare.mspx
[Shift Development] rosrog:
wm6.1 vs 6.0

Thanks Pharao. My main interest in the 6.1 is the threaded sms. While there are those who dont like the threaded sms, there are others who love it. The ones I've seen so far require a large amount of already unavailable space to install in addition to unremoveable embeded sms utility. So, its not just a hunting of version numbers as you thought.
[Shift Development] sany6006:
:(

i installed age of reason without the HardSPL and the radio and my snapvue is no longer working what should i do?

im a beginer in these things so help is needed.
[Shift Development] rosrog:
Go to the hardspl thread and now start from there. Once you have Hardspled your brick, hopefully you can then install your radio rom before the age of reason.

Here's your link http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=406606&page=2 But take out your battery first for a few seconds and replace before starting.
[Shift Development] sany6006:
Thx u very much now i have age of reason and i must say that its very good.

thx for the help.
[Shift Development] goverweg:
3G problems

I slowly worked me through all the problems this room is offering (thanks verymuch anyhow)but a solution for the 3G not connecting I couldn't find. Could you thaihugo give some more extended instructions or programs to install that could solve this problems. Travelling in a 3G area excludes using the internet.

On another thread I found this: "I had the same problem with the version 1.27. The solution was to change the radio to version 1.58.21.23. The radio, sometimes, is not compatible with the operator. Test it and good luck!"

How does this effect this rom??
[Shift Development] rickdager:
i need my shift to run better. i have phone, gps working but freezes too much

is there a new rom that does not use practilly all the rom space?
[Shift Development] joy.d:
hmm, a good question. I think there is nothing longer in the developer pipe - if you not make yourself rom. :-(

Many Shift users switch to other devices - so we don´t have active developers at the moment.. i think al they´re shifted ;-)
[Shift Development] cadc82:
¿How do I get HTC GPS Tool / Google Maps working?

Hello everbody,

As a newbie in this forum and thread, allow me to sincerly thank thaihugo and others, for their great effort making the HTC Shift a even more perfect device.. :D:D

Before I get to my question, I must say HTC Shift is the next line in evolution, since it's not a laptop nor a Smartphone, but a singular mixture of both!! I've come to own one, after leaving behind my beloved HP Jornada 720, 728 and Nec Mobilepro 900 and 900c devices... As you can see now, I've always had a good taste with small full portable and powerful devices, so I'm sure Shift won't be the exception...

Now, lets get to my current situation.. After installing thaihugo's age of reason, I'm quite stuck with HTC GPS Tools... Before anyone asks, I've done my homework, searched all the entire web to find an answer, but no luck until now... (I've even found out this tool possibly was leaked through HTC or taken apart from a different device rom.. :eek::eek:).

What's the problem? Well, in WinMo side, I start the program (HTC GPS Tool), open the port, and a rain of lines begining with $GP appear (I suppose the gps is retrieving information??). I then start google maps and go to gps settings, select automatic windows detection and select to use gps. A message appears saying gps is starting, but after a while a big error window shows up, telling me my gps is not connected or working.

I've played around a little with the program and think it might just be a configuration issuse, since I left the program in testing mode last night, and today I could finally get the gps working (yeah!!) on google maps, for a couple of seconds...

I would truly appreciate any help in the matter, or some guide to where I can find a online manual or something, cause there are a lot of unknown settings in HTC GPS Tools such as mode, stress, quick , chip, etc.; and my only interest in GPS for now, is to use it "on the go" with google maps and google earth in the city...

Thanks in advance!
[Shift Development] PlayStation:
You need to set the Baud rate at 9600 and click on Open Port/Start.... Also check that Port 4 is selected for GPS.

Also you need to check that there is no obstruction to the satellites up in the skies. An open field or any where away from tall buildings might do the trick.

All the best.
[Shift Development] lucid:
What you are trying to do is too much.

Your story tells me you want to use GPS on the WinMo side, not Vista.

IN this case, you need not use the GPS2blue program or anything else.

Just make sure that in settings, your GPS settings are set to :

manage GPS automatically. Then start Google Maps just like that.

It should find the correct port and work.

What you are trying now is having GPS in Vista....
[Shift Development] cadc82:
Exactly I just want to make it work on Winmo side for now... My idea is to be able to plan small trips or get directions inside the city and to be available at latitud service, so that my contact can see where I am, all the time (well actually when my Shift is with me...:D:D:D)

So I don't need to use either HTC GPS Tool nor GPS2Blue in Winmo side? Sounds wierd, but ok, you're the boss!!

I had selected from the start the option "Manage GPS automatically (recommend)" in the Access tab of Winmo Settings (as pointed out by Thaihugo in one of his first posts), but even without using any program as suggested by you, I can't make the GPS work properly on Google Maps...

I would really appreciate if you or someone could point out a step by step "how to configure everything tutorial" (including the Winmo and Google Maps settings), since the very few times I've managed to make it work, it's just for that moment and if try it later, no luck.... Meaning it's not a reliable and therefore usefull function at all..

Thanks again
[Shift Development] masterci:
Hi! I flashed this rom, installed garmin mobile pc 5.00.60, followed the guide of Thaihugo about the program gps2blue and now it works great!!!! Perfect!!!

I'm waiting to flash the radio 'cause I don't want to call in public!!! I'm sure Thaihugo is preparing us a surprise inthe next future!

Thank you very much!!!
[Shift Development] lucid:
If you want to show other people where you are ?...
[Shift Development] Carsten71:
how to change keyboard layout ?

Hello,

just installed the light ROM and it seems to work fine.

What I dont understand, and I didn`t found an answer in this thread, is how to change the keyboard layout. I have a Shift with swedish keyboard, but in WinMo there seems to be an US layout.

Thanks for your help

Carsten
[Shift Development] Josasp:
With you on that one.

I've not bothered so far with looking it up for my shift but i did stumble upon it in some thread on this forum a while back.
[Shift Development] wovens:
Often the ROM creators build their ROMs for English US/UK scene. Only a few do local, contry-specific ROMs. If you flashed the WM side with a non-country-specific ROM you will not get the correct WM keyboard, no matter what you have on the Vista/XP side of the Shift. It may be possible with third-party software but I don't know.

Even though it looks like the shift is one piece of hardware (one keyboard only) the reality is a little bit different.
[Shift Development] thaihugo:
yes you will. Just search the forum for changing keyboard layout. it's a registry setting.
[Shift Development] osnus2003:
windows 7 install

Hi can you please help me as I cannot upgrade my ROM to age of reason under windows 7. It give a connection error....

Thanks
[Shift Development] DEMiSE:
Alright, so I'm pretty tech savvy, but I'm new to the WM modding.

Let me run this by you guys that are creating ROMs.

If I was to take the CDMA Radio File and install it instead of the GSM file, and then installed the Age of Reason ROM, would that brick my phone?

Is the only difference between the ROMs just the Radio Files or is it deeper than that?
[Shift Development] Ivsilon:
Doesn't sound in SanpVue

Hi people, I have a small problem with the "age of reason" rom. The problem itself is I have no sound on side SnapVue. I believe that I have not jumped step any. Free SnapVue with LiberateShiftPack correctly. After ShiftHardSPLFinal correct also. And finally install ROM "Age of Reason". I hope that the progress bar ends (in about 2 minutes only), and when this SnapVue restarting... you get it PROBLEM!!!! Speakers emit a rare and incessant sound that only disappears after a "soft reset". Then there is no noise but no sound. Please Thiaugo or people, any solution or idea about this issue? Incidentally, I install ROM new, same problem.
[Shift Development] thaihugo:
You forgot to flash the radio from the first post.
[Shift Development] Ivsilon:
[QUOTE = thaihugo; 5098830] Se te olvidó el flash de la radio de la primera entrada. [/ QUOTE]

Hi Thiugo. Thx for reply my post. I only have some doubts.

Where this link to radio flash rom? I see only the link of your roms. And another thing, to make the radio flash I need reinstalling original rom, or I can do it with "Age of Reason" loaded? Also I need another rom for GPS?

P.D. I find it a lot even English, but little by little...:)
[Shift Development] P4d0uch:
hi

i have this rom but GPS still not working. GPS2Blur says connecting to and then says problem connecting to TPC/IP and HTC GPS Tool dont find any satelites.

please help
[Shift Development] thaihugo:
Sorry for late answer...

Look here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=486234
[Shift Development] scocios:
No roaming option in phone/settings/services .. Windows Mobile

Dear Thaihugo

I've been using your Age of Reason rom since you made it public. It works great; however, I have run into the following situation.

I am now outside my native country (Ecuador) and I need to use my SIM card with roaming service activated. However, in the phone/settings/services tab, there is no roaming activation option. I've also looked all over WM to fnd another way of activating the roaming option but I did not find anything helpful.

I'm currently in Qatar. To make sure the issue is not an operator / carrier issue, I tested my Movistar Telefonica SIM card in a basic Nokia phone and roaming worked perfect. I did this yesterday night. I did notice that the Nokia phone does have a roaming option to activate / select.

I repeated the test this morning with another distinct, very basic Nokia phone and it worked again. This confirms that is not a SIM card or operator / carrier issue. It is definitely a WM issue or a rom issue.

I did various searchess in this forum but could not find anything related. I googled it too but just found something applicable to Sprint WM phones in the US.

Please let me know if roaming is possible using your Age of Reason rom and if so, please let me know how to activate it.

Thanks in advance for your time and consideration.
[Shift Development] thaihugo:
I'm afraid the roaming depends on a file that is the core of the phone porting to the shift. Actually, all the sim functions depends on a file that is ported from another device, and we have little control on what it can do. Did you check if other roms allow you to "see" roaming?
[Shift Development] scocios:
No I have not tried any additional ROMS to see if this issue gets solved as I have been using your ROM for a long time and I have been quite pleased with its' performance.

I will try to use another ROM and I will report back. In regards to the file used to port the phone to the Shift, could you please provide more comments about it? Where, how can I get it? I do not clearly understand how the file that you have mentioned works.

Thanks for your response.