yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G1 Android Development] tokyomonster:
Basically, 200+ pages on this is out of hand. The best thing to do would be to act like a proper community, and start maintaining a blog/wiki highlighting important/noteworthy development landmarks and easy to understand tutorials/faq's. All of the yelling back and forth is counterproductive and just adds to the noise.

That should keep alot of the bs down(hopefully)

There's already a wiki here(http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Dream) but it doesn't appear to be updated very often.

I have a free domain name I can use, along with a year of hosting that's just sitting untouched if anyone is interested in helping me with this.
[G1 Android Development] Baldyman1966:
Or alternately, why fill up the ever growing forum with arguments like this. Lets face it guys (and gals) most of us that are not completely new are just hanging round waiting for the next revision, so we might as well try to get on and be helpfull.
[G1 Android Development] stogchris81:
thats me.

I check on this thread more times a day than I probably should. Sometimes when I see I question I think, oh god, here it comes. I will just answer that question my best next time.

Or kindly point a fellow noob to the right post thread, or sticky.
[G1 Android Development] tokyomonster:
Exactly. There's too much ego. Yes, it can get annoying, but it's inevitable. Noobs aren't suddenly going to disappear from the internets. They have always been here, and will always be here. The same thing happened when I was working with the iPhone dev community. I don't know. Either way, there's no winner, and there's no way to stop it. You can either ignore it, put up with it, or be a **** about it.
[G1 Android Development] borodin1:
I've got a suggestion for comlete noobs (like myself): CROSS-REFFERENCE! That's what I did with everything from the day one. I too sometimes can't understand what other people are talking about or what do I need to do to achieve a certain task so I just look for other threads that are same or similar. Lets face it, most of the time things are posted more then once (or twice or three times) around here. I know for sure that there are at least 4 threads about moving apps to sd. Some are for complete noobs, some are for people who know commands and have experience. Sit down, write them all out side by side, compare and you should be good to go!!!! Then, and only then one should ask a question.

Just my 2 cents. I'll gladly help out anybody as much as I can help (which is not much, unfortunately)

Good luck to everybody!
[G1 Android Development] Baldyman1966:
Just a little reminder why we are all here...

Guys (and Gals) just a small observation that will hopefully remind us why we are all here.

I just nandroided back to JF1.43 RC9 as I am going on a long train journey and didn't want to be without my music. Now this was what I was on only about a week or so ago and I though that was pretty nifty compared with the vanilla versions i had before then. I have to tell you it feels like coming off drugs, everything seems so slow and so blah. Can't wait to get back tomorrow and return to 4.5.

Sorry for sounding like a "Magic Junkie" but i guess thats what I am.
[G1 Android Development] reuthermonkey:
And that's the thing. Both Baldy and I (and a couple others too) have a link to my FAQ in their sigs, and yet questions which are not only answered in my FAQ, but in haykuro's very first post (ie, "does this have A2DP?") are still asked.

I could write up a full tutorial, update the wiki, and post all of my sources and cites, and based upon the questions in this thread, I guarantee that it would just be a waste of my time and effort. I spent a lot of time going through page-by-page to make that FAQ with direct links to exact posts so newbies don't have to go through 200 pages of back-and-forth to get to the good stuff, and yet *some* newbies STILL choose to ask the same basic questions over and over again. And goddamnit, they expect you to give em an answer. Every. Time. Over.And.Over.

So, if you want to go update the wiki - more power to ya. But if people don't want to even read haykuro's first post in this thread and prefer to waste other's time to ask "is A2DP included?", what makes you think they'll read the wiki?
[G1 Android Development] twistkill:
i guess this whole thing comes as a package...

you will have the pros, the devs, the leets and then you have the noobs, the users, etc etc etc..just comes as a package :p
[G1 Android Development] tokyomonster:
Yeah, unfortunately, that's true. BTW, thanks for the work on the FAQ. Notice that none of my posts happen to be to this forum asking questions about magic...that's because everything I learned about it, I learned from your faq..no need to ask the questions to begin with.

I guess there does come a time when the idiots refuse to read even the most idiot proof information. I'm conflicted as to the best way to deal with those people. Should they be ignored? Banned? Berated? Helped?

Maybe you should message Haykuro and see if he'll(in big, bolded letters) link to your FAQ in his initial post? Or maybe start a thread specifically for questions about magic, and one that has nothing but information(faq's, links, etc) that's locked, so the information is right there and people can't clog up that thread with dumb questions?
[G1 Android Development] Jrbourque:
Its not only the noobs that are clogging all of this thread , i bet that if you add it up there are a good amount of pages of just people complaining about noobs and how much this thread is getting out of control but that keeps going and you have to cut through all of the b.s just to read something or when your doing a search. But me posting this is me contributing lol so i will not post another on this again
[G1 Android Development] he3:
And the loving groupies!

Oh, and a good reference vid for the "noobs" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
[G1 Android Development] got23hops:
another great idea! love it and I wholely think this should happen.
[G1 Android Development] wwwhershcom:
i agree.

i just went through the last 5 pages of this thread, and there was no info on magic at all.

just people complain about the n00b problem, and how to stop it.
[G1 Android Development] reuthermonkey:
Ironically enough, after just whining about how no one will read the wiki, i've started updating it with everything from my post, and i'll eventually edit my post to simply point to the wiki. That's a better place for the information anyways.
[G1 Android Development] stogchris81:
good one!

Lol more then I have ever lol'd. Priceless.
[G1 Android Development] rantrav:
Heres a thought: How about we just get back to the thread and not complain....thus we would not end up with so many extra posts (such as the one that you are reading right now that has absolutely nothing to do with the topic)

2ND to sum up everyones thoughts about this:

The "noobs" are asking SOME questions that may be annoying and could probably be answered in the first few posts, others cant be. Next the "vets" are complaining about these posts=adding about 30 posts complaining about the questions at hand. Then the "noobs" are striking back at the "vets" by complaining about the "vets" who are complaining about the "noobs"=adding yet another 30 or so posts. And then there are the ones who try to balance things out with complaining about the complaining on both sides and are trying to make everyone understand that the complaining isn't getting us anywhere.

ALL OF THIS ENDS WITH AT THE LEAST 100 POSTS, FROM ALL, WHO ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE "COMPLAINING ABOUT THE COMPLAINING" WHICH IN THE END MAKES US ALL COMPLAINERS!!!!!!!! and I just went cross-eyed.

and I dont care who you are, although confusing, this post was somewhat funny!
[G1 Android Development] rantrav:
Arguing about who is right: cost: time

Complaining about complaining: cost: more time

Bringing us back to the 80's one hit wonders: cost: PRICELESS!
[G1 Android Development] HeartOFHatred:
I cant seem to get MMS working on build 4.5, ive followed all the intructions on post #871 but the pics just wont send. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. :)
[G1 Android Development] he3:
Bah! That dude is way off topic! We need to ban his rick rollin off topic a$$ forever! Wheres the Mods!
[G1 Android Development] wwwhershcom:
i just tried to DL 4.9 w/ apps to the sd and got this message from mediafire.

"Invalid File. This error has been forwarded to MediaFire's development team."

can some one please re-up?

**EDIT**

nevermind, it started working.
[G1 Android Development] elcanela:
accessing recovery console on new ROM

in case you downloaded the update on your phone (with Download Crutch, etc.) & simply cannot wait to get home, connect to pc & use the adb shell command to access recovery console, you can access it with these easy steps.

Rename downloaded file update.zip & place in SD card

1. Turn Off phone (RED BUTTON held down)

2.While holding down the trackball, turn phone on (LED comes on, blue for me,

dont know if its device specific)

3.Take battery out (phone becomes unresponsive to any keypress combinations)

4. While holding down HOME button, turn the phone ON.

5. BAM! you should boot into the recovery console

I dont know if this is device specific, but its worked for me countless times. I am away from a pc during most of the day, that is why the creative discovery of this method.
[G1 Android Development] n19htmare:
Ah man, there is no T9 input in the 4.5 :(... I really liked it on other versions.
[G1 Android Development] devildogg2001:
I'd also like some clarifacation if anyone here can help, i have followed the instructions, and changed the settings, and i still can not send pictures.. Has this been figured out already? I can receive pics fine, i just cant send them...
[G1 Android Development] eyesee3:
I thought I fixed this with the 3g network with some settings but, i can only send/receive pic msgs successfully on 2g networks and lower...
[G1 Android Development] PAO1908:
you mean in dialer ? because in sms, browser I have t9 word suggestions....
[G1 Android Development] makethetick:
There's suggestions but no T9 soft keypad like in 4.9..
[G1 Android Development] g1junky:
do u have to do a wipe for this to work??

because i dont have a data plan and i won't be able to register my phone at the moment..

thanks in advance
[G1 Android Development] haitiankid4lyf:
yes you have to wipe, but the builds are based on adp1 version so u can skip registration and register when u can access wifi
[G1 Android Development] stogchris81:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=452316

this should answer your question. if you are going from an rc rom to a haykuro rom, i would wipe. just so you know you cant blame any potential hickups on not wiping
[G1 Android Development] wwwhershcom:
would these instructions to get apps to the sd work on 4.9?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3141070&postcount=1
[G1 Android Development] stogchris81:
darkrift

search for a nice guy named darkrift. he has the step by step in his sig.

here ya go...http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=3576489#post3576489
[G1 Android Development] wwwhershcom:
thank, but those step are for 4.5.

i'm running on 4.9.
[G1 Android Development] stogchris81:
do a nandroid back up and try it, it should be the same. however, i cant be sure so i cant be responsible, lol.
[G1 Android Development] ben29pickett:
Currently as such i dont belive there is a way because of how much room extra 4.9 takes up, Sorry to dissapoint
[G1 Android Development] wwwhershcom:
there is, we just dont know how yet.
[G1 Android Development] ben29pickett:
Well then go find a way... Obvious its possible, But tbh, Why bother? 5.0 gonna come out soon.. Then we have to find a whole new way to do it all over again (maybe, Maybe gods will be kind) Anyway, You find a way then please share.. But i doubt very much theres any point tryin, Just flash 4.5

Maybe JF Can give us a hand in the next build ;):p
[G1 Android Development] AbsoluteDesignz:
yea I'm not making any major chances to my phone until 5.0 comes out.
[G1 Android Development] Perrosky:
wsup everyone I been reading the thread since the start and kind of lose the track after the hacking but trying to keep up today for the first time I installed first 4.9 build look nice but still the autorotate issue, decide to try the 4.5 and works better (but don't have the video recording feature :( ). I test my dell Bluetooth heandset to listen to music and is perfect!! sync without any issue and no problem playing the music through the stereo headphone :D the player remote on the headphone also work!. I will use the 4.9 after a couple of fixes.

Now I will get a car stereo with Bt. no wires in the car for the g1 cool!.

PS. I'm still on JF radio and have not issue with calls or text. thinking about upgrade the radio for better battery life.

Hakuro = The Best!
[G1 Android Development] Pinesal:
Nice headphones and camera is now working. Just gotta wait for the release.
[G1 Android Development] notxel21:
I saw that on his Twitter! I can hardly wait!!!

HAYKURU = GREATNESS!!! :D
[G1 Android Development] xyrcncp:
Twitter is down for unscheduled maintenance. Stop hitting F5 on Haykuro's Twitter page!!!....LOL.
[G1 Android Development] kenny9438:
4.5or4.9??

no matter how i look at the functions between 4.5 and 4.9..4.9 seem better t me, why are most of the people using 4.5??
[G1 Android Development] haykuro:
stability. 4.5 is completely stable (once i finish releasing todays update ;)).

4.9 is still very unstable (in my opinion, and from users reports).

4.0 is also very stable now, but no google apps so people stay away from it.
[G1 Android Development] xyrcncp:
From what I can see, 4.5 is more stable. If I was to take the plunge to flash one of these ports, I would go for 4.5, but that's just me.
[G1 Android Development] chitownboi24:
It's because they are so in love with htc's cupcake theme and the on screen keyboard. But I'm happy with 4.5's google keyboard and theme and it's basically completely stable. 4.5 over 4.9 anyday.
[G1 Android Development] haykuro:
Just released 4.5 with audio and camera fix, the other builds are being tested and will be added as i finish testing.
[G1 Android Development] nabzilla1990:
so what doesnt work or any problems with it now seems flawless now
[G1 Android Development] rantrav:
I am having a problem with the download..not sure if anyone else is. just wanted to let you know.

Invalid File. This error has been forwarded to MediaFire's development team.
[G1 Android Development] djdant:
Has the mms sending been fixed for tmo us?
[G1 Android Development] borodin1:
Just to make sure as I am about to take a plunge into whole new world here:

For the latest build today (04/06/09, pm):

There's absolutely no way to flash without wiping

ALL

Google apps are working and stable

"Apps to SD" has to be done manually until Haykuro releases build with "apps to sd" mod included.

Am I correct in this assumption?
[G1 Android Development] guitarfreak846:
The new 4.5 update with camera and wired headset is out!!!!!
[G1 Android Development] dpgc213:
haykuro: are u planning on releasing a fix for the radio crash after a call on 4.9 any time soon?

cheers :D
[G1 Android Development] AustinKnight45:
Ya I'm with you borodin1 think I'm gonna give it a shot, ill let y'all know
[G1 Android Development] Rickster08:
can't wait for the 4.9 fix........ too many tweets!!!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Conrad-007:
My question is if it exists a "task manager" application for Kaiser, where I can see the "CPU usage" level. It would be useful for me because my touchscreen keeps freezing from time to time (not responding to stilus for a few seconds) and I want to know if this happens because of some task which keeps the processor very busy... I have currently a clean ROM flashed on my Kaiser, but this problem was present also with the original ROM...

Thanks in advance.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] DaveShaw:
BatteryStatus has a CPU usage on the Today screen. Or for something a bit more advanced try TaskManager by DotFred.

Ta

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] deadline:
I've got same problem, I only bought Kaiser (Vodafone v1615) few weeks ago, updated to newest ROM (didn't want to loose warranty, so just thhe standard one :( ), and it keeps doing similar thing in IE or Adobe, or even solitare. But the start menu is actually still active, I really don't understand. Has any of you guys had the same problem? What did you do to solve it? Thanks a lot
[Touch HD General] Candy-men:
Hi Folks,

i want to use the JETCET Print Tool with my HP F2100 Printer. The Problem is that this printer doesn´t exists in the list of HP Printers. How can i update the list, or is there an other way to get my printer connected?

Thanks so far for your help...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] the_fish:
hello,

after flashing my universal (vpa IV, see sig) with tomals 6.1 21028 BETA 2 build, i noticed that the usb port doesnt seem to be working anymore. im not sure whether tomals rom caused that, but if i try to connect my device to active sync / flash it i just get a "unknown USB device" error from XP, just like if the uni was booting up. if i try to flash ANYTHING, i would get a "CE ROM UPGRADE ERROR" (error 112). i've tried it on 2 PCs, with 2 USB cables. both machines are win xp 32bit with active sync 4.5...

ohh by the way: it even doesnt work on bootloader mode! keep getting the same error :( ( yep i took SIM + SD card out )

thanks in advance, hope someone has a solution!

EDIT: is there a way to flash ROM / Radio from SD Card? how? i could sync over bluetooth and stay with flashing from sd card instead of repairing the usb port :)

EDIT2: alright i found it :P http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=393370

EDIT3: i cant get it to work! i've tried with a 256mb SD card, and with a 2gb sd card. at the 256mb card the recovery will just abort at 19%... HELP
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] the_fish:
bump...

could anyone with a 64mb ram G3 uni bootloader version 1.00 and a 128mb MMC or a 256mb SD upload the bootloader for me? would be great! just do this on mtty:

connect to the device on USB / WCEUSBH001

type:

USB>task 32

USB>d2s 70000000 80000

(INSERT SD NOW!)

(Please notice the blank space between d2s and address, sd )

if it shows "store image to SD / MMC card successful.", the bootloader upload was successful.

after doing this, just give me the bootloader ( which is, as i guess just like at the pc the first 512bs (including part. table)

so, get this tool: http://www.chrysocome.net/downloads/dd-0.5.zipunzip it for example to C:\ then go to start -> run and type in "cmd", now press enter.

type in C: and press enter.

now type cd dd-0.5 and you should be on the folder where dd is. check whether it is by typing in dir. then do dd --list and look for the SD card. for example if its shown as:

\\.\Volume{f87b78e3-0c04-11de-be63-806d6172696f}\

link to \\?\Device\HarddiskVolume4

fixed media

Mounted on \\.\d:

now type in: dd if=\\.\d: of=g3.bin bs=512 count=1 press enter.

now you have the file containing the mbr of the SD card. upload this one in a zip file / whatever, that would be really great! thanks!

EDIT: tomals tool may also work to dump the header!

get the tool here: http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=88435&d=1211870722
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] -Jonny-:
sorry I got v1.01 bootloader, any good?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] the_fish:
well you could try :) should work, thanks in advance!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] -Jonny-:
task 32
USB>Level = 0
USB>d2s 70000000 80000
DeviceToStorage: No card inserted!
USB>
USB>d2s 70000000 80000
SD:Waiting for card insert.........
CMD3 for SD, it's OK, ready to get RCA from response.
SD:Detected one card
SD:ready for transfer OK
d.total_lba=7A000
d.block_size=200
d.RCA=B368
d.drv_type=40000000
d.busWidth=1
Total card size=F400000
SDCARDD2S+,cStoragePlatformType=FF
DOCInfoTableinitHW+
Binary0 Size: 0x100000
FAT0 Size: 0x4000000
FAT1 Size: 0xA00000
FAT2 Size: 0x2C70000
All Size: 0x7770000
FAT0_ADDR=0x100000,FAT1_ADDR=0x4100000,FAT2_ADDR=0x4B00000
**
Store image to SD/MMC card successful.
USB>

404 Page Not Found
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] the_fish:
sorry: http://www.chrysocome.net/downloads/dd-0.5.zip
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] the_fish:
hmm just a little update: the data port on the usb connector is DEFINITELY broken. maybe its also the USB "controller"? i connected the phone to linux (running wm) and got "Unable to read/64 device descriptor error=-71" every time i connected the device.

so i went into the busy box on the phone and connected it again. it gave me EXACTLY the same error messages, and "USB reset!" on the phone dmesg. what should i do? i already checked the USB connector on the M/B and it was good!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] the_fish:
bump.... still have the problem
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] -Jonny-:
Sorry, was on holiday. Please find attached from Tomal 8.7 on 256MB miniSD
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] NikolasV:
Hi!

i had so problem earlier.

there was shorted two pins on usb controller with little metal particle.

look more accurate on your mainboard
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] the_fish:
yeah i looked as close as possible EVERYwhere on the mainboard. just wasnt able to find the broken part, maybe its really the rs232 chip that is broken.... did the bootloader show USB for you when the device was plugged in?

no problem :) (im on holiday right now, too! :p) thanks for the file.... trying it out now... :p

UPDATE: just tried it, no luck :( thanks for uploading it anyway! hope it'll be useful to someone else once =)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] TitusPolo:
Issues with USB

I had the same problem with my uni. similar thread here somewhere. I had to ship off to PPCTech, and they were able to fix it.

There was some chip that had blown, and it was replaced.

Regards
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Andehh:
I go skiing tomorrw so i need to try and get this problem fixed asap. I recently installed PDAcorner V19 and i adore the rom to bits. The only problem is randomly the sound will cut off. Calls are silent, txt messages/calls dont ring and adjusting the sound has no effect. It takes a soft reset in order to cure it, then after a few hours it goes back to being silent. I originally did a hard reset but it didnt seem to have any effect on it. I am on T-mobile, in the UK using radio 17.09.19.

Does anyone have any idea what could bec causing this? I pm'd the creater of this ROM but havnt heard back yet and i am really hoping to get it fixed before i go abroad. Does anyone have any advice?

thanks guys :)

(i have searched & googled as much as i can, but didnt find anything of use)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Andehh:
edit; excuse the typo in the subject, if i mod could adjust it id be gratefull! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] denco7:
You can try to flash a different radio to see if that helps or a different rom. I have that rom and do not think that anyone else is have those sorts of problems.

I had the same problem a while back and tried several different roms and radios. Nothing worked. I think it has to do with Voice Command and or bluetooth. Then all of a sudden it went away. Here is the thread discussing it, to see if it sounds like your problem.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=438457
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Andehh:
thanks for your help Denco, ill have a look through and see if it helps! :)
[Touch HD General] Red14:
Can anybody explain me how to prevent the auto-installation of all the htc included apps right after a hard reset?

I wanna use a plain wm6.1 without htc's nasty BIG step volume control, maila and so on.

on my former tytnII just soft reset after the hard one did prevent installing htc package from rom, but my hd refuses this and installs everything anyway.

(did look in forum but all i found was another like unanswered question)

so please could anybody help me?

i am not technical enough i think to flash my little bird, and dunno what flash package i should have for an clean lean windows machine . . . .

thanks! and hoping for an good answer . . . .;)