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[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
Hi fabius88,

well you can use QWERTY layout. For the "QWERTY+" version in Italian : tell me the words shortcuts you want for each letter and I'll make it. Or simply edit with notepad++ the file "QWERTY+.layout" to remove/add shortcuts as your convenience.

For dictionary you can add yours. If you have a list of most frequent spoken 1000 words in Italian then you could post it here and I will include it in next release.
[Windows Mobile Themes] jodeltje:
It's working! couldn't copy the files to my phone (was nagging that file's were broken or something)... emailed to my phone and copied them into the folder...tadaaaaaa! :D

thanks for your help! my keyboard looks awesome now :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] blacksage:
dpad

just wondering if anyone knew of a layout that has dpads built into keyboard, very simular to this keyboard layout, maybe replace the pg up, down, home keys with dpads? My device (Touch HD) has no hardware dpads, :(
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
Hi,

sorry PCMK14 doesn't manage dpad... Actually you can click directly on screen where you wanna go but I know that some people like you prefer dpad keys...

:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] gruvngyrl:
Ok, I've got a new phone now, and am attempting to install your skins again. The phone I'm trying to install on is a Samsung Omnia.

I've installed PCM 0.14 to my internal memory, deactivated T9, installed the skins to internal memory, have only chosen one of your layouts and one of your skins, and this is what I'm seeing when I try to access the kb. I've soft reset several times, but nothing seems to work to get this keyboard looking correct.

Below is a screenie of what the kb looks like now.
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
Hi gruvngyrl,

Well you did the right things to install it, could you confirm that you installed (W)QVGA cab ?

I remember that you previously made it work on another device, right ?
[Windows Mobile Themes] gruvngyrl:
Yep, I installed the WQVGA cab. I'm not sure what the issue could be.

If the T9 disabler didn't work properly, could that be it? Has anyone else with an Omnia had this happen, and did you find a workaround? I would LOVE to get PCM Keyboard with one of these skins working because it really is my favorite kb.

And yes RR33, you rememembered correctly! :) I had this installed on my old phone, a Daxian X999, that bricked one day for no known reason. :(

Edit: I just installed the test cab and that didn't work either. I'm so confused. It doesn't seem like other Omnia users have this much trouble. If it matters, I'm running the DXIA5 ROM, so it's pretty up to date.

To disable the T9, I downloaded a cab that's supposed to do it, but is there another way? I searched XDA, but didn't find anything specifically for the Omnia. Unless I just didn't look hard enough. :confused:
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
Well, this is my last OMNIA test3 : it's not a cab but a skin file so unzip and copy into \program files\PCMKeyboard and choose OMNIA TEST3 from skins list and cross your fingers...

edit: Don't worry about t9, you did it fine. The issue comes from my skin : I made it work on OMNIA months ago but I have forgotten the good gonfig to make it work again with my new skins...(I only have a Diamond to test skins)
[Windows Mobile Themes] gruvngyrl:
Ahhh, RR33, I LOVE YOU!! Lol. This one worked, yay!!
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH !!!!

I knew that I already made it work on OMNIA but I have forgotten to add a line into the ini file of each skin.

So a new release v9.2 with the fix for OMNIA have been released today.

Thanks to you for your patience gruvngyrl !

:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] gruvngyrl:
Thank YOU! You've singlehandedly made this keyboard useable for me on the Omnia, after I spent many, MANY frustrated hours trying to figure out what I was doing wrong between installing the newest versions of PCM, the older version of PCM, various skins, etc.

Now my old customized layout is working perfectly with your skin, and I am a happy girl!
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
I luv u 2 lol ! Many, many, many thanks for your help to make it fully working !

Could you make one screenshot of a v9.2 skin from your OMNIA please ?

Because some people say that PCMK doesn't work on OMNIA and it would be an evidence that it depends on the skin we use : with a compatible skin it works.

:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] gruvngyrl:
Absolutely! I did get one of the later versions of PCM to work on the Omnia, but I don't know how to customize those layouts, and none of the settings ever seemed to work properly. Now that there's a working skin for 0.14, everything is as it should be, and it's much easier to customize for people like me, who always like to tweak things so that they're "just so". Lol.

I'm attaching my custom layout too, just in case anyone wants it. I've put the comma to the left of the space bar, put the apostrophe as the long press on the comma, the question mark on the long press of the period, changed the order of the numbers on the numpad, and just generally switched around some of the long press functions so that it suits my use a little more. It's basically my version of the "Best of" layout that was posted here on XDA, but it seems to work well for me.

In order to use the custom layout, you'll need to change the .txt extension to .layout, and then copy it to your PCM directory.
[Windows Mobile Themes] PrinZH:
Yeah, I had exactly the same problem with my Omnia! But with your OMNIAtest file, it works excellent. The only problem is, when I turn my Omnia, the keyboard looks like a mess! Is it possible, to solve this problem because I like to write with two fingers in the vertical way...

Last question: Are there in your package (after fix the bug) any other skins with a bit larger buttons than them in your test-file?

Thanks for the answers and sorry for my poor english!
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
Hi,

first install my last pack v9.2 (follow exactly the installation guide) that includes the fix for OMNIA. You must choose layout + skin with "v9.2" tags for higher compatibility.

It would be great for me if you could post a screenshot showing your issue.

Test each of the 16 skins with the different layouts : maybe you'll find a combination that suits you. ABC layout has large keys but it works only in portrait and not in landscape.

:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] gruvngyrl:
Oh, I hadn't even noticed it in landscape because I never use it that way. You're right, it does look like it's not set to quite fit on the screen.

Here's a screenshot:

And actually, I was curious about the button height also. Hehe. I'm sure it's a ton of work, but it'd be amazing if they could be made a bit taller or even a bit wider (hard to do for the Omnia's resolution, I think, because it's already almost stretched to the max).

I guess I need to find a guide on how to get into skinning. Or is it possible to modify a skin file? I tried opening one in Notepad and all I got was a crazy page of garbage. :o

Edited to add: I tried it in landscape with your original layout files also, and it's still rendering the same result.
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
Hi,

thanks for the screenshot. You can open ".skin" files with winRAR : in fact, it is a ".zip" file renamed in ".skin". You'll see all the .png pics and the text .ini file.

I'll try to get a look into this landscape bug on OMNIA...

:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] gruvngyrl:
Ohhhhh! That makes sense. Wow, you really are my hero, RR33. :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] PrinZH:
That will be very nice! Could you please make a post in this thread if you found a clue for the bug?

Tnx
[Windows Mobile Themes] PrinZH:
Little question: Which is the keyboard with the largest keys in your wqvga package?

Tnx!

Edit: Another question sorry =S Always when I have installed the PCM Keyboard 0.14 on my Omnia, I can't use the "Samsung Phonepad" as text keyboard anymore. The key to put in letters, is always "deactivated" the keys for put in numbers and special characters are though available. I've no clue why that happens. @ gruvngyrl do you ever have the same bug?

Thanks for the answers and have a nice weekend!
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
Hi,

don't be sorry for your good questions, it is a forum so ask for what you dunno and someone will answer you :)

Well, for now I have no idea to fix the landscape bug on OMNIA but I'm searching...

The larger keys skins are : Giannis86's blue and the iPhones like.

You can also try the ABC layout...

have a nice WE too :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] PrinZH:
Hi, Tnx for the fast replies!

Sorry I'm not a pro with WinMob so I have to ask you if it's dangerous to edit the registry (should I make a backup before?) and where I can find the registry on my Omnia. Furthermore I tried the Gianni skin, but that's the only skin in your WQVA package who does not work on my Omnia (the problem is, I can't choose it in the keyboard-settings, it doesn't identificate the skin as a skin-file-.-). Is it possible to attach just this skin here in the board? Can't wait to try it ;)

Tnx
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
It's weird for Giannis skin : do you have the same issue gruvngyrl ?

:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] PrinZH:
Hi :D

The Skin is working fine! Thanks!

But i deactivated the T9 with the cab, but the problem is not solved...after installations my Omnia shows: "It's possible that the installed programm isn't working fine, because it's made for an older windows-version!" (in my english words!) Hope gruvngyrl had the same problem and know the way to solve it ;) Thanks for support! I'll have a look in the board again tomorrow morning!
[Windows Mobile Themes] gruvngyrl:
Oops. Double post.
[Windows Mobile Themes] gruvngyrl:
Gianni's skin seems to be working fine for me, except that PCM sometimes freezes up my Omnia when I'm testing and pushing the keyboard buttons while not in some kind of text entry program. I think I'm going to play around with the skin files a bit tonight and see what I can come up with, if anything.

I'm generally pretty incompetent when it comes to things like this, unless they're very basic. Changing up the layout, I can do. Skinning... not so sure. Lol.
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
Hi,

I have bad news... I asked to Tene (PCMKeyboard creator) a way to get trough the landscape bug on your OMNIA : he answered me that there is no solution, PCMK is buggy on OMNIA. He also told me that this is a reason why he abandoned this old version and he re-wrote the code totally.

The problem for me is that the last version 0.23 is buggy on my Diamond and I dunno skin it...

Perhaps PCMKeyboard 0.23 works better on OMNIA : you can try the nice Nottingham's skins here : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=3682326#post3682326

I also suggest you to take a look at another SIP like TouchPALv4 or FingerKeyboard2 by example...

:)

ps: it's normal that PCMK14 freezes your device if you try and change skins (more than 3 times for me) without doing a soft reset. Theoretically, you should do a soft reset after each skin changing.
[Windows Mobile Themes] gruvngyrl:
Thanks for the info, RR. I've been using FingerKeyboard since discovering PCM wouldn't work properly on the Omnia, and have grown to like it quite a lot, but still wanted to have PCM as an option. For me, it's actually ok that it doesn't work in landscape because I rarely use the keyboard in anything but portrait, but I know it'll be an issue for some.

That said, thank you so much for all the work you put into these skins! Last night, I tried simply changing the height on the button images, resaving them with the same names in a different file name, changing the main values of the settings.ini file, and nothing seemed to work to make a taller keyboard. Not sure what I did wrong, but I do know that you did an amazing job that I can't. :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
Thanks,

I can make keys taller in height if you want but not in width. For now, each key is 31 pixels of height : How much pixels do you want ? 40, 50 ? I saw on your screenshot that OMNIA has much available space between text and keyboard.

:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] gruvngyrl:
I was trying to test out 35, but that's probably not enough, huh? Anything, in your expert opinion, that you think will fit within that extra bit of space, since it's a 240x400 screen. 40 sounds reasonable. An extra 9px is pretty substantial.

Are you just changing the image files? Or is there some kind of code that needs to be changed to coincide with the new images? I changed all the keys, and then modified the key_row_height to match the new key image height, but that didn't seem to work. What was I missing? Lol.
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
Well you did right : use an image editor like Gimp or Photoshop to resize key height to 40 pixels by example then edit with notepad the settings.ini file : change key_row_height=40 like this and to finish select all files, right click on selected files then left click on "make zip". At the end rename the zip file ".skin" and it's finished
[Windows Mobile Themes] gruvngyrl:
That's so strange. I did all of that, aside from the fact that I used 7-zip to "add to archive", then renamed that .zip to .skin, and it refused to work for me, lol. I guess I just don't have the magic touch.

I just tried out the skin and it's SO GREAT! Is it possible to get the iPhone Like skin (just the plain one, I don't need fancy colors, even though I do like pink :P) with the 40px height?

This is so exciting! :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
Well, could you try the 50 pixels height too to tell me which of them you prefer... and make screenshots of both to see the difference please.

The Landscape is not working on OMNIA so I'll make a special skins pack OMNIA portrait ONLY with 40 or 50px of height : it depends on your choice :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] gruvngyrl:
Here's how it looks at 40px (left), and 50px (right):
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
thanks,

which do you prefer ? Let's go for a 40px pack ?
[Windows Mobile Themes] gruvngyrl:
Yeah, I think 40 is plenty for most people. 50 starts creeping up more than half the screen, and things start to get hidden.

Thanks for doing this!!
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
OK, you'll have the full pack 40px within 24h

:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] gruvngyrl:
Hooray! RR33 to the rescue, once again!
[Windows Mobile Themes] loganh.kenton:
Landscape is not workink on i910 Omnia. Keys are stretched away from center, many off-screen. Help?
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
hi,

yes I know this bug and I mentioned it on first page : PCMK14 doesn't support landscape for OMNIA but portrait mode only.

Sorry.
[Windows Mobile Themes] PrinZH:
Hi RR33,

I don't find the link in the starting post to download the v.10 of your skins. Did you forget it?

Greez
[Windows Mobile Themes] civicvx94:
any hope for a compact qwerty in landscape?
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
I tried to make a Compact keyboard, it was similar to the PhonePAD except that the PhonePAD has 3 letters per key whereas the Compact Keyboard has only 2 ; also it works by slide like the PhonePAD and not by pressing the key twice or 3 times like the other compact keyboards (it's a limitation due to the program code itself). And the keys are smaller than the PhonePAD... that's the reasons why I chose the PhonePAD instead of Compact QWERTY.

@PrinZH : no link for now but I'll post it today

@gruvngyrl : did you test the beta v10 that I PM you ? Can I add your custom QWERTY layout to the v10 ?

:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] gruvngyrl:
Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I tested out the skins I added to my phone, since I wanted to keep the memory usage down a bit. All of the iPhone Like skins are working perfectly, and look beautiful!

Sure, you can go ahead and add my layout to the pack. I'd be honored. :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
hi,

thanks,

So the BIG size is enough for you ?

:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] gruvngyrl:
The BIG is perfect! Not too big, not too small - just right.
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
OK,

here is your layout with 2 modifications :

- internet shortcuts : because the text was outside the keys

- money symbols : when you press "dollar", I added a popup menu with Pounds, Euro and Yen

tell me if you are agree with these changes,

:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] gruvngyrl:
Looks good to me! I have changed around a few more things to make them more intuitive for myself since posting this one, but I don't think anyone will care much, lol. Go ahead and pack it all up, if you're ready! :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
ok,

BIG thanks to you for all your help and your layout,

:D
[Windows Mobile Themes] Lumes:
Hi there,

first posting and help questions :o sorry

So I can´t get PCM kb to work

I am using a Omnia i900 with manila2d

Here are my steps

1. I installed PCM 0.14

2. installed wqvga big v10.cab

3. 14 layouts v10.cab

Everything went fine:)

4.ervius_Sip_Selector_v3

5. I go to keyboard and change from Samsung Kb to Pcm

6. get the Sip message

7. so I start sip selector and change the keyboard

8. I get a keyboard but it looks very strange (only letters no buttons):confused:

9. I go the PCM Keyboard options and I find only small english and small french layout. Under Themes I can´t find v10 Big theme, only default, white, blue...

Please help me what I did wrong:rolleyes:

Thank you very very much

Greetings from Finland

Lumes
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
hi,

Well I read your install process and you did fine... At first launch PCMK keyboard is all messed up because not configured yet but you should see and could choose the skins & layouts with "v10" tags...

It seems that PCMK don't see the skins, so could you get a look into your program files\PCMKeyboard\ folder to verify if the skins & layouts are here ?
[Windows Mobile Themes] Lumes:
Thanks for your fast response. :)

I deinstalled all cabs and installed only the 0.14 PCM cab.

The problem is the 0.14 version the newer 0.23 works fine unfortunely without the the nice skins. Anyway, I will wait for a new 0.23 skin meantime I use the modified Samsung Keyboard in my Manila BH rom.

An nice BIG Iphone skin for V 0.23 would be great.

Have a nice day :D

Thank you very much

Greetings

Lumes
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
Well, it's normal that PCMK14 alone don't work on OMNIA : you must install and choose 1 of my skin to make it work (thanks to gruvngyrl, i configured the ini file into each skin to make it work) because the built-in skins by default inside the official PCMK14 cab work only for QVGA.

My skins don't work on 0.23 and I won't make skins for 0.23 because my diamond (or my rom ??) doesn't like it...

If you like the 0.23 I suggest you the nice Nottingham's skins (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=3682326#post3682326)

:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] talk2nate:
So if I'm understanding this post correctly, PCM doesn't currently work on the Omnia in landscape mode? FingerKeyboard works though? I really only use widescreen mode for emails and text.

Thanks for your skinning efforts RR, I really liked them just wished they'd work landscape on my new Omnia :(
[Windows Mobile Themes] civicvx94:
hmm..I have yet to try the PhonePad option..is it layed out in a QWERTY format? if so I think that will be great..Im not a big fan of predictive input so I prefer the standard qwerty when it comes to a virtual keyboard but in portrait the keys are just too small..I'll play around with the different options later tonight.

Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
hi,

well it's a phonePAD so neither QWERTY nor AZERTY... PhonePAD is a 10 numbers keyboard with letters in alphabetical order : press a key and you'll have a number, hold a key and you'll get a pop up menu with letters then slide to the desired letter and release the key to type it.

:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] gruvngyrl:
Yep, that's correct. Basically the only thing I like better about FingerKeyboard at this point is that feedback is built in and customizable, so that you can have vibration or not, sound or not, and you can adjust how much of each you want. Other than that, being able to customize a layout on PCM is insanely easier.
[Windows Mobile Themes] shinjiruu:
now my whole phone is bling bling. But not the s2u2. Is it possible to make one for s2u2 and the clock?:(
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
I agree with you :)

for the clock, you have this nice one here.

:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] TruPlaya187:
Keyboard problem

Hi,

I have installed exactly like you said and I can see, choose and use the skins. I have one question, when I type sometimes the keyboard will close and give me the default small keyboard. Then I need to close the app I was typing in, and choose again PCM keyboard.

I was wondering if you saw that before.

I have the Vogue with WM6.5 NFSFAN v.11

Any info, fix, reg fix.....please....

Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
I suggest you to try other SIPs like : PCMK 0.23, FingerKeyboard2, TouchPAL...
[Windows Mobile Themes] TruPlaya187:
Hi,

thanks for the quick response. I forgot to mention it happens only in landscape mode. I like PCMK 0.23 but I love your skins...YOU ROCK!!!!

I tried many keyboard but PCMK is the best. I have used all SIP change apps and it works when I soft reset but after a while with texting etc. the problem comes back.

Thanks for you help/info.
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
Hi,

I will add more dictionaries to my next pack...

:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
new skin D2 soon
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
Well, you don't seem to like the last one so I will not include it into my next v11 pack
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
Do you prefer Topaz like skins ?
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
Hi,

my v11 will include a brand new iPhone like skin with beautiful metal keys...

:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] TruPlaya187:
YOU ROCK!!!!

Just wanted to say that you rock!!!!....your skins WOW!!! freaking nice...Good Job!!!
[Windows Mobile Themes] meccax5:
when using these skins, does it fix the landscape bug where it freezes?
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
Hi,

well PCMK14 never freezes on my Diamond neither in portrait nor in landscape : if I had bug I wouldn't have spared time to skin that keyboard lol. So what is your device and the version of PCMK you use ?

Because v0.23 is not stable on my Diamond.

The only known bug with PCMK14 and my skins pack is a non landscape support for WQVGA devices (like OMNIA) but it works perfect in portrait.

@TruPlaya187 : Thanx :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] meccax5:
i have a sprint diamond, but even when i used to use 0.14 on my vogue, whenever i use landscape, the keyboard hangs and i have to soft-reset. I was reading on the pcm forums its a known issue for some people with no solution. so i just use portrait mode but i would love to use landscape with out the freezing.
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
Ok, it's weird because like I said I have never met this bug on my GSM Diamond. It's sure that this kind of bug is really a pain in the neck !!!

Did you try my v10 pack : Is your bug still there with my skins ?

If yes, maybe this bug is due to a software conflict between PCMK and a third app ??

Which rotation app do you use ? Personally I use manual screen rotation thanks to TF3D config.

So I recommend you to use other great SIPs like TouchPAL4 or Fingerkeyboard2

Regards

:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
hi,

my next pack v11 with 18 fabulous skins will be released next week (I finished all the 18 skins in WVGA - VGA - WQVGA - QVGA but I am still working on the layouts...)
[Windows Mobile Themes] 200mpx:
Is there any possibility to download skin pack from other place than ppcgeeks? It is weird but my registration there said that I have not enough rights to download :(
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
Hi,

It's weird...

BTW the v10 is old now and I will upload my v11 this Week-end so be patient please...

While you are here I just wanna know your opinion because nobody answers me : do you want the skin above with bubbles included into my v11 ?

:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] trish126:
Hmm the bubbles one is really pretty, but it looks like it is quite difficult to press. Does anyone think so?
[Windows Mobile Themes] RR33:
hi,

thanks Trish126 for giving your opinion, this is my opinion too : nice but not very handy...

EDIT : my PCMK14 Skins Pack v11 is available now ;)

hope you'll like it :)

regards