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[G1 Apps and Games] knoxbrder:
ontopic:

OK, I tried the double tap play/next/prev. They all behave exactly the same: If you time it right, double tapping causes any of them to skip to the next song, if you time it wrong then you usually get a pause, and sometimes pause/unpause. It is pretty hard for me to time it right. After some practice I am still probably just over 50% accurate.

I did not have time to try my other bluetooth headsets, but I imagine they all send the same codes over for remote controls since they all behave the same (play/next/prev) with the standard music player and work correctly under Palm OS and connected to my Linux laptop as well.

offtopic:

rushless:

I think it would be "fairly easy" at this point to get core or other media backends working now. Using C native libs to do number crunching seems to work ok for Doom and several other programs. So I imagine we will see something like ffmpeg, mplayer, coreplayer, etc. running soon. But I imagine they will not be as efficient as the built-in codecs for some time.
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
Definitely, apps locked to the sdk will see no difference in audio processing as you dont have access to the raw audio channel.

But RockOn is all about the user interface and its usability, which in my opinion also plays an important role, at least for a great deal of the users.

In other news:I have created this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=509863
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
hi all,

version 1.1.5 is now online

it supports:

bug report through email when rockon crashes (thanks to Mariano Kamp)

less memory utilization for large album collections

slightly faster screen rotations

cheers
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
hello guys,

im pre-releasing RockOn 1.2 on the website

http://abrantix.org/files/rockon/RockOn.apk

there are a couple of significant changes on the UI (namely the album list navigator). Please try it and tell me what you think.

new stuff:

integration with scrobbledroid (so you can scrobble your songs to last.fm now)

option to switch to landscape mode (in the preferences menu)

... and check the album list :P

Im planning also to put a 'lite' version on the market during next week (mostly to increase visibility). It will not have concert, playlist, nor preferences support, other than that its the same app. The version on the website will always be the full version.

Have fun
[G1 Apps and Games] MontAlbert:
just installed the new version- nice changes
[G1 Apps and Games] beagz:
I like what you did to the new version also. Keep up the good work.
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
hi all,

just released version 1.2.1, which has some bug fixes on top of 1.2 + better preference handling and auto-rotate option (through the preferences), yay!
[G1 Apps and Games] chrisrj28:
Hey fabrantes any thought on having a now playing fullscreen mode? Maybe like a swing in to the now playing art and then swing out when you want to select a different album
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
yes it is in the plans... Just because it takes a little more than the other features I have been postponing it a little bit...

Right now the plan is:

cupcake integration (meaning testing + home widget)

full headset functions (for fancy headsets with more than 1 button)

full screen view

redesign of the album switch animation (will add an option to have a simpler animation - the slide left thing sometimes becomes to slow)

more concert stuff

+ 1 surprise (ok I'll ruin it already... having album release notifications from artists in your library - but this is really at least some 6-8 weeks away).

For the full screen view im planning on something like: after 20-30 secs idle it fades out the normal view and fades in the full screen mode... also, if you do the full right swipe you go to full screen)... and in full screen mode an option will be available to have something like a screensaver (that keeps on distorting the album in some way).

what do you think?
[G1 Apps and Games] uva463:
Any way to kill the "play" icon on the top bar? It was doable in previous releases, just click clear notifications.
[G1 Apps and Games] chrisrj28:
I think that is a great idea. Honestly a full screen mode is the only thing keeping me from using this as primary music app over MixZing. I look forward to your integration of these features.
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
taking the icon should be the same as before... unless you checked the persistent icon option in the preferences... otherwise it is a bug with cupcake or whatever...
[G1 Apps and Games] knoxbrder:
When I use the standard music player now, and try to use Bluetooth controls, RockOn reacts instead and I end up with two players running. This happens even if I choose to exit RockOn. I think you must be capturing bluetooth events at times you shouldn't be.
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
hi knox,

Im not sure Ill be able to get this working like that, but Ill have a look. How do other players work?
[G1 Apps and Games] apostilleus:
RockOn Music Player?

RockOn is a music player for Android. It has a nice all-graphic UI interface making it the player of choice if you prefer browsing your music library by album art. The main features are: * Cool album art navigation UI * Location-aware concert info of your library's artists (uses Last.FM API). * One of the most effective album art fetchers we know (uses Last.FM API). More features will be added in the future so... stay tuned. Also, I'd love to hear your suggestions so feel free to email me.
[G1 Apps and Games] MontAlbert:
Am having issues with the latest version. GUI looks great, bluetooth buttons work to some degree (double tap for next song etc- not the std bluetooth controls but trial and error for me)

BUT yesterday i was using it in the gym along with Dudes 0.94 cupcake and it kept stopping. Not skipping or force closing as when i went into the app again (thru icon in notification bar) it was still open, just not playing....

kept just stopping so much i had to switch over to tunewiki......not as nice as rockon.... is this a common issue?

thx
[G1 Apps and Games] g2crx:
im having a issue with the stock music player i can start the rock on app. but once i try to skip a song my bt starts the stock music player.any idea on how to just get only 1 player at a time.

james
[G1 Apps and Games] MontAlbert:
for some reason mine did the same- try double tap the play button on headset...
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
Hmmm... strange.Were you wearing it (i mean on you that the orientation could be switching frequently as you were probably moving). And had you auto-rotate switched on?
[G1 Apps and Games] MontAlbert:
no i wasnt wearing it but i do have auto rotate on my cupcake build.....so maybe it stopped when changing orientation?
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
I can only think that rockon was getting killed by the system to free up memory for other apps... but as you were not really using the phone i find it strange. Ill be working during the next week to reduce the memory footprint of the appto see if it helps...

In the meantime Im releasing version 1.2.2 today (already on the website), major changes are:

- supports full screen mode - swipe right in the current playing album (still experimental)

- downloads higher quality album art (note that downlaoding art will take longer too and use more net traffic, so it is preferable to do it over wifi)

- +some more fixes I can really remember now

let me know what you think of it.

Also, will be releasing a 'Lite' version (includes everything except the menu options) on the Market in the middle of this week.
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
hey again,

in the next version I will taking out the transparent blurred background...

it just makes a noticeable difference in terms of performance!

will probably add the option to set custom backgrounds... what do you think?
[G1 Apps and Games] cyberaddict:
I'd like that. Maybe include a couple of present and have the option to use your own.

By the way, the fullscreen mode works nice, except with low quality art, it would be better if the image was only expanded to width of the portrait screen (like the android last.fm player does)

keep on rocking on!
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
most of the low quality album art are the ones embedded in the mp3 files (quite often @ or below 200px). one thing that could be done was downloading art for those files anyway.

for the backgrounds im thinking of just redirecting the user to the pictures app where he can choose one of his pictures (by choosing the share option on the photo... but thats probably not he best idea...)

working on it as we speak :P!
[G1 Apps and Games] MontAlbert:
I would prefer a plain background- sometimes it is hard to read stuff with the blurred background... Or maybe i just need my eyes checked? Ooops caps sorry....
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
hey... ive put version 1.2.4 online that supports custom backgrounds (also removed the blurred bg for performance reasons)

check it out...

if you create your own custom backgrounds Id love to have a look...
[G1 Apps and Games] cyberaddict:
Looks great. Attached is the image I made for you a while back. Seems to work great. Feel free to use it as a default if you would like. I can make a landscape version tonight if you want. Also , would you still like the glossy frame effect? I can make a new based on the latest frame.png.
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
cool! About the glossy frame Id love to use it, however there are a few limitations. One is memory consumption - I would not want to throw in another bitmap on top of the ones already there - the other is that images sometimes dont look the same on the phone as on the pictures...

About the first point, I would prefer to do the glossy effect programatically (create the gradients, shapes etc. within a canvas object) . If you would be willing to assist me on trying this (telling me step by step how you to create the effect - meaning shapes gradient composition etc) it would be great.

About the second point, its really a matter of trying... we need to test it on top of both white, black, ... covers.
[G1 Apps and Games] cloverdale:
Is it running any quicker now? I loved the GUI, but could not rationalize using such a slow player for looks alone.
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
should be running quicker... however I have been getting some bug reports of the app crashing more often due to out of mem errors...

Ill be releasing a new version tomorrow to see if it fixes the severity of the problem
[G1 Apps and Games] MontAlbert:
just used it today- seemed to run a lot faster with the black background instead of the transparent background. Didn't drop out like pervious version. good stuff. can't wait for the next version with even smaller footprint... now for the widget? :D
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
the out of memory bug was fixed (it was a stupid thing that happened for people with less than 10 albums or so.

Im now officially going for a widget :-). If you have ideas, suggestions for it now is the time.
[G1 Apps and Games] TurboTsi:
A widget that shows mini album artwork! That would be killer
[G1 Apps and Games] MontAlbert:
yeah- similar to the stock music widget but instead of play button have the album artwork there? nice.
[G1 Apps and Games] beagz:
My vote for the album art on the widget!
[G1 Apps and Games] MrADeveci:
I've now updated my first post on this thread as it's now a discussion thread about the player and has good input / updates from the developer.

Enjoy.
[G1 Apps and Games] MontAlbert:
for some reason my phone wont recognise a new album i have added to it. not sure why- i converted to ogg on my pc. checked id3 tags with ultra tag editor. dropped into music folder on my sd card. if i use astro i can go thru to the folder and tap on file to play....for some reason it plays it but doesnt recognise any of the tags..... do i need ID3v2 tags as well?

****edit****

found a fix/workaround..... dragged mp3s onto sd card instead of ogg (even though all other albums are in ogg).... mp3s still didnt open in any player.. opened these mp3s in mp3tag editor on phone - they all had correct tags so just saved straight away .. opened files using mediabypath andbang then they all showed up in music players.....

not sure what the hell happened...but it works- will just stick with mp3s for this album..... bizarre... anyone else had issues with this?
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
I have put version 1.2.8 up on the website (only on the website for now-- this is an early, fairly untested version). It includes a widget (very similar to the one from the stock app) but with album art. It also includes some important bug fixes. So if you want to give it a try tell me how you like it.

Note: the buttons on the widget dont do anything for now...

http://abrantix.org/files/rockon/RockOn.apk
[G1 Apps and Games] MontAlbert:
seems quick... stuck widget on dxtop and works great... once you get buttons working that'd be great...... maybe skin the widget to have a cool looking widget like how rockon has a beautiful looking GUI....

Not sure on how fxnal you are gonna have the widget but to select songs easily would be great....
[G1 Apps and Games] medium_kevin:
lookin good
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
yep,for now this is kind of stealing the default music widget... havent really decided on what the widget should look like and what interaction it should have... more to come in the next couple of weeks...
[G1 Apps and Games] TurboTsi:
I'm using the widget and cool how you used our ideas about the album art ;)

Another idea is maybe if you select the album art, that box opens up where you can select the song from that album just like in the app....and that's all i got for now :)
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
yep this would be nice... I have to see if I can learn more about the widgets to actually implement it...

also Ive been thinking on another widget layout... more like square with the album fully occupying the background, and the album labels on top of it (similar to the fullscreen view). how would you like it?
[G1 Apps and Games] beagz:
that would be great if you could make it no larger than 2x2. I prefer 1x1 widgets but it would be too hard to see the album :)
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
maybe I can release widgets separately on the Market... have to investigate this...
[G1 Apps and Games] TurboTsi:
I agree, I think a 2x2 size would be perfect. 1x1 would be kinda small for the album art.
[G1 Apps and Games] serial thriller:
Fab,

Have you received any reports where Rockon just starts out of the blue every once and a while and plays 3-5 seconds of music and then stops. Once it does this, the application is listed in the notification bar.

Any ideas?
[G1 Apps and Games] IronFly:
Fabrantes, have you read this thread?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=518214

seems a good start to have an EQ. :D
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
Yep, I see why this may be happening. Sometimes the background service gets killed by the system, and apparently it restarts. I'll dive a little bit into this this weekend.
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
it is interesting at first glance. But it seems you require a custom build no? Ill have to read it in more depth. But interesting indeed...
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
hi everyone,

I have put up a new version online. There is a significant restructuring of the controls:

http://abrantix.org/rockon.php

tap song area: play/pause (which is now faster to respond

swipe right over song area: next song

tap&hold song area: popup song progress for better/faster song seek

no more double taping

also, you can now hold the albums on the list to access its song list (and soon also to change the individual album art).

The song list menus have been redesigned!

Next step is doing manual album art change, and then look into the headset, having previous song, and other stuff that I have been wanting to look into for ages...

Cheers everyone and hope you like it.
[G1 Apps and Games] IronFly:
thanks for your work Fabrantes!
[G1 Apps and Games] davidemartindale:
Sorting/playing music by genre is my #1 most wanted feature... ON MY ENTIRE PHONE.

I want it more than any other app, feature, or functionality that I'm missing. Seriously, back before cupcake hit, I wanted it more than any of the cupcake features. I would give away on-screen keyboard and video camera for this. I'm still carrying around my iPod despite having an 8gb card for my phone over this missing feature. Aaaaaaaarg!

-insert bribe offer- I would totally donate 20 bucks if RockOn offered this feature; I've been trying to get this functionality since buying my phone and being shocked that it was missing! -end bribe offer- ;)
[G1 Apps and Games] chunga:
e é tuga!!

haha um português por aqui pelos androids? boas! Excelente trabalho e grande app! pena estar um bocadinho lenta.

Cumps.

//edit

The app is fantastic, it starts to be sluggish on first time use, but as soon as it caches pictures, runs very fast. I found some bugs when I was trying to change views, sometimes the picture don't update properly and sometimes the frame shows the wrong cover art, also the empty cover icon on landscape is a bit ugly overscaled

I would like to see features like lyrics(maybe scrooling above the picture layer in song view), a shake function, album art on notifications, genre browser, instead of changing background maybe a picture of the current song cover art with a blurry and dimmed about 50% and fade black effect.

Great work so far
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
hehe... I think one way to do it would be to add genre playlists... how would you like that? This is currently not a big priority so it will still take a while to implement... we'll see. Also I have the impression some other music player might have this... maybe the ugly but very functional Meridian player??
[G1 Apps and Games] fabrantes:
Boas Chunga!! E bom encontrar pt's por ca :).

Very cool suggestions... about the wrong cover art: when you add new music to your SD, RockOn might struggle to synchronize the the data on the background service and the frontend (Due to some poor implementations choices in the beginning). A complete scan of the sdcard might take some minutes... Im not sure if this is what happened to you...

About everything else: I will be looking into it, but probably not in the very short term. Ill be slowing down development in RockOn in the next couple of months in order to prepare some submissions for ADC2...

Thanks for the feedback!
[G1 Apps and Games] davidemartindale:
oops double post
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vasta.antonio:
HELLO .. I have a problem, I can not integrate htc rom on my menu!

I created with various build rom and xip, like the famous UdK, Cloudy, MORN, etc. ... but with my rom, HTC MENU does not work ...!!! :(

I use the EASY and useful visualkitchen of Bepe ...

This is my procedure ... (APRO THE ROM, xip AMOUNT AND PUT YOUR SYS AS Coretti, CREO CON package creator MY MENU THAT INCLUDES HTC HTC SCROLL.DLL ... EVEN MY PACKAGE INSERT IN OEM AND CREO THE ROM ...

WHAT IS NOT? .. :(THE ROM WORKS WELL, BUT IS NOT HTC MENU !!!!!!!!}

Can someone help me?

What should I do?

... where I am wrong?

Thanks to anyone who will continue to help me!

Forgive the translation ...:p

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ITALIANO

CIAO ..ho un problema,non riesco ad integrare htc menu nelle mie rom!

Ho creato rom con vari build e xip,come le famose udk,Cloudy,MORNA ecc...ma con le mie rom, HTC MENU non funziona...!!!

io uso il FACILE e utile visualkitchen di Bepe...

Questo il mio procedimento... {APRO LA ROM,IMPORTO XIP E INSERISCO IL SYS NEL MODO CORETTO,CREO CON package creator IL MIO HTC MENU CHE CONTIENE ANCHE HTC SCROLL.DLL...INSERISCO IL MIO PACKAGE IN OEM E CREO LA ROM...

COSA NON VA?..LA ROM FUNZIONA BENISSIMO,MA HTC MENU NON VA!!!!!!!!}

Qualcuno puo aiutarmi?

Cosa devo fare?

...dove sbaglio?

Grazie a chiunque si fara avanti per aiutarmi!

perdonate la traduzione...
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] spittinfly:
OK, I am new here and have done a lot of reading. Apparently me and about 3 other guys are the only ones that have USCC, not a lot out there for us. NFSFAN, you have mentioned that you might be able to whip us up something if there were more, that would be great. I do have a number of specific questions and I'd love all the great input that everyone has.

1. 6.5 or Android? (yes I know it is all personal taste)

2. My touch does not have GPS enabled from USCC. If I unlock the phone do I use .41 or 2.31? Yes I want GPS and would find a ROM with it and is that why I would choose one or the other?

3. My Radio is 3.42.30, do I need to upgrade to 3.42.50 for GPS or just to upgrade to 6.5? and where do I find that radio?

4. Am I asking to basic of questions yet?

5. How do I get Adobe Flash Player loaded/upgraded?

6. Is there a good .cab website out there for games/apps?

7. Can I have my cake and eat it too?

Nah j/k but I know my phone is capable of so much more than I am using it for now and want to take advantage of it. I really appreciate all the help and suggestions.

Thanks

HTC Touch Vogue 6900

3.01.573.4

3.42.30
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] jadesse:
Have you look over at PPC Geek's at all? There is a lot more CDMa info there.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] spittinfly:
Ok, I kinda thought this was the forum for CDMA, aka my USCC VOGUE phone. I have looked on ppc and am going to repost this question there. I saw the wealth of knowledge here and thought I could get some help....
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] jadesse:
This particular forum is for the CDMA Vogue but this site is geared more toward GSM devices. There doesn't seem to be a big US Cellular following on here.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] haloyd1:
gps on uscc

i have my gps working. cokeman 2.31 unlocker and a omj.3.09.01custom rom. works great
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] haloyd1:
gps on uscc

:cool:i have my gps working. cokeman 2.31 unlocker and a omj.3.09.01custom rom. works great
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Detroit_Doug:
Well seeing as no one actually answered your post ... here goes

Yes it is a personal choice, nice thing about Android is that it is a Linux shell - rebooting the phone brings you back to WinMO so really it can be best of both worlds just be prepared for some work in using Android and remembering steps before starting it like, Starting IE/Opera before starting Android to make sure you have Internet within Android (at least when I was using it a few months back)

You would use 2.31 unlocker and from there flash to a custom ROM - try a Generic ROM either 6.1 or WinMO6.5 might be able to utilize GPS if your connecting via generic or seek out some other USCC users in threads, I know some are using 6.5 currently and able to work fairly well

No, 3.42.30 is fine, you wont see a difference with 3.42.50 worth it plus it can cause some issues more than positives so stay to the basics

No, can you be more simplistic in them LOL j/k

Depends on the ROM used as well as the Browser (IE or Opera) there is some reports of IE Mobile 8 or something like that working but flaky

Search the forums both here at VDA as well as PPCGeeks you will see links to personal cab repositories that will contain some for ya

Of course you can, but the actual saying is "can I eat my cake and have it too" in reference to the days of Marie Antoinette and the famous line of "let them eat cake" the idea is to be able to eat your cake AND have it, which of course would be impossible as would the situation a person in reference to the saying would be wanting as well

Hope that helps

Detroit Doug
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] spittinfly:
Thanks Doug I had almost given up hope on this thread. I have been on PPC Geeks and am just about to take the plunge. Thanks for all the advice and I see the logic in the actual "eat / have it" order, very interesting and educational. Thanks again and I will try to update after I upgrade.