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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Asphyx:
Mike - Is it possible that just the in call section itself is that resolution?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MikeKnoop:
No thats for the -incoming call- screen, which obviously fills the entire screen. Honestly the resolution probably isn't important as the phcanhtc.dll is probably writing controls/gfx/text outside that resolution but it still shows up.

-Mike
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Aaron McCarthy:
Is there a way to disable the slide to answer in the tachi canvas. Ages ago I had poked around trying to find out if there was a way to bypass the slide to answer as it over writes the existing slide to answer on the new ATT Rom and it looks all screwy.. cant see the number and no contact photo shows up. I'm at a loss as to how to fix this STILL. I have tried installing another slide to answer over top of the tachi canvas but it causes the dial pad on the tachi canvas to slide down so only the numbers show and a BIT of the bottom buttons.. looks like the slide to answer I had just installed over caused it to shift down for some reason... Does anyone have any advice other then... suck it up haha.. which I have been doing and suppose will continue to do if there isnt a way to fix this :P
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MikeKnoop:
There might be a reigstry edit somewhere... other than that I wouldn't know how to disable S2A.

-Mike
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Claus72:
Software Talk key issue

When I power on my Diamond and I dial a number in the dialpad, the software Talk key don't work. It doesn't work only the first time I touch it, then the other time I touch it works.

It doesn't work only after I have switched on the Diamond and I touch it the first time.

Can anyone help me?

Sorry for my English.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MikeKnoop:
Does anyone know a way to identify (based on dissassembly code from IDA or otherwise) where a specifically numbered Bitmap resource is loaded into memory?

I'm trying to track down where the paint routine occurs for the incoming call screen slide2answer bar, be identifying where the image is loaded into memory. Phcanhtc.dll accesses phcanimages.dll, resource bitmap 104 or 109 to draw the slider. I assume its a windows library call. Does anyone have an ideas?

-Mike
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Asphyx:
Mine does that as well but I kind of like the double click as it ensures I don't dial by accident!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] B4PJS:
Mike,

Do you have a working rgu for the Rhodium Canvas. The one I extracted from the Rhodium ROM breaks everything!

B
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MikeKnoop:
Will a .reg work for you? If so see attached.

-Mike
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] B4PJS:
Cheers mate :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] webfrm:
No application list from drop down.

I noticed that I can't get a task manager list from the HTC task icon in the status bar anymore. Would be nice to know what applications are running. Anyone else having that issue?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] B4PJS:
Taken some major steps forward over the last couple of day :) Screen shots either later today or tomorrow :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Krzysiec:
GREAT to hear that ! Can`t wait first for the screens and than for release ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] teixeirabmb:
Something related with rhodium videocall, or are we just talking about tachi dialer conference call?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] B4PJS:
I am working with the Rhodium dialer, gotta start again as have got hold of a new package, but most of the values should carry over so shouldnt take too long :-s
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MikeKnoop:
Sounds good! Are you modified decompiled code, or have you made strides only hacking resources?

-Mike
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MRFERRARI23:
WOW so your talking about having the touch pro 2 dialer ported for vga an releasing it soon?? now that would indeed be a very nice treat!!! :D

also looking forward to some screen shots!

P.S.- Would that require uninstalling all the Tachi stuff plus dialer, in order to install your new one, or could I install right over it etc??
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MikeKnoop:
If Tachi is your OEM dialer, you can install over it. Otherwise it would probably be best to uninstall Tachi then install Rhodium.

-Mike
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] brol1k:
wow guys u sure have done alot of work lately...great to see progress on this.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] B4PJS:
The newer versions seem to have externalised a lot more, so I think the dialer might be a resource now :-s
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MRFERRARI23:
so when are are we looking at a release for this?? and how functional is it??
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MikeKnoop:
Hey good deal! I've been looking more into the Tachi dialer, as apparently it interfaces better with some of the more full Tachi OEM dumps which have been appearing recently. Lots of new problems in there though...

-Mike
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Asphyx:
Great work B4!

Just FYI - Yoztag has released his 2.1 VGA Port of Manila. (Still beta though with some landscape issues.)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MikeKnoop:
Did he port his own canvas or what is he using?

-Mike
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] yozgatg:
nope i'm still using the Tachi one, waiting for you guys to port the Rhodium

hopefully it'll be done soon, great work btw
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] programatix:
So, does this mean that Manila3D 2.1 would not work without the Phone Canvas?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] yozgatg:
v2.1 requires either Tachi / Topaz or Rhodium dialer

it will NOT work with the standard MS Dialer and the older HTC phonecanvas

so currently it works fine with Tachi, but it's just personally, i believe rhodium or even topaz a major improvement over Tachi (since they're native GSM, no slotmanager stuff and no taskbar icon manager)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] programatix:
May I know what would happen if no Tachi/Rodhium/Topaz phone canvas is installed? Previously in the fixed Manila3D 2.0, it can start properly but the People tab would not initiate a call if tapped on. Is Manila3D 2.1 showing the same behaviour or it won't start?

Thanks in advance.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Krzysiec:
I think this is only issue that U will be not able to dial from People tab (with those bottom buttons). Manila should start anyway. but People will not work properly. If i`m wrong please correct me.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] B4PJS:
Who fancies some video calling action?! Still needs some re-arranging but it is functional :) Oh yeah, almost perfect landscape dialer as well
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] counterfitninja:
B4PJS :- this sounds very very cool... if this works you guys have made amazing progress
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Krzysiec:
mmmm it sounds like "poetry" :D Can`t wait to cook it into my Diamond :D Finally after half year of waiting ... of cours Tachi "port" made a huge step forward but this is another one for all of us ;) Hope it will work like it should THANK U B4PJS for working on this !
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hmota78:
Holy cr#p, you did it! Congratulations! Can't wait to see some screenshots. The TF3D 2.1 port is really going to be perfect now :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MikeKnoop:
Sounds like you're working on the Topaz simultaneously as the Rhodium dialer. What was the big revelation to start tweaking the incall stuff? Was it (don't know if this is true) that HTC dropped actual dialog resources for these in an updated ROM for the dialers? I'm curious what was solved after many many months of non-progress.

-Mike
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Captain_Throwback:
Actually I was going to ask about this. I assume the Rhodium Dialer supports standard Video Call, but the Topaz Dialer from the new AT&T Warhawk ROM supports VideoShare, which is an AT&T feature. Would it be possible for me to get the mods you're making to the Rhodium Dialer, so I can modify the Topaz Dialer for us AT&T users?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] emresumengen:
Whoa... Been waiting for that. Is it gonna happen, really? :)

*nice job!*
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MRFERRARI23:
this excites my mind, and as BORAT would say...... I LIKE, CAN I TOUCH?? ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MikeKnoop:
Any updates on the Rhodium dialer? It would be awesome to have this guy out (even if it's missing a few landscape things) to coincide with yozgtag's TF3D 2.1 release next week.

-Mike
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ND4SPD:
So all you really had to edit is the phcanrc.dll? Here I am going through the assembly of the phcanhtc.dll. Anyway, I kinda guessed what you were doing and tried doing the exact same thing in the phcanrc.dll using pe explorer. If that doesn't work, I'll try your dll.

Thanks for the update
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] anja31:
this is gullums result for now
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cruzzmz:
ori OEM is in WVGA ... so can use?

or i can just replace tis to ND4SPD beta version?

So anja31 ... all button on dialpad works? also can slide the slider?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reluttr:
The dialer looks spot on with the mockup I did.

But couldent you remove the text and down arrow from the curtain on the incall screen and bump the end call and dialer buttons up? I wouldent mind if there was no text or arrow there, it should be self explanitory anyways XD
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cruzzmz:
arrow only would be gr8
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reluttr:
Again I am NOT working on the dialer, I am just making mockups to give people visual aid of what to expect.

Got done with the incall screen mockup :D

Edit: does anyone know how this acts when you slide it down? Does the Keypad and end call button remain where they are? If so I might need to redo my mock
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dharvey4651:
Yes your mockup will need to be redone. In about 1 minute I'll post a screenshot from xboxmod showing what it looks like with the curtain down.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] caldito:
dharvey,anja31 have you done anything special? i have installed the topaz files, the dialer runs okm however i cannot see any of the new icons, neither the call history ones nor the bottom ones. It keeps showing the previous ones.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dharvey4651:
Nope i didnt do anything special at all. I'm just using the Rhodium Manila, Rhodium Contact Card Editor, Rhodium Message Ehancement and many other Rhodium OEMS.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] caldito:
I am getting this. Any idea?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dharvey4651:
Can't say. I don't have THAT problem. I just have the problem of not much actually working. :p
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] caldito:
Nevel Mind, my mistake i had forgotten to copy PACKAGE_Topaz_PhoneCanvas_0409 directory. ( This just fixed the Lower bar).

I still cannot see the call log items in the new format. Maybe it is a rom issue..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mbarvian:
I just decided I would make it easier for the ones that don't know how to use install an OEM Package :)

http://www.mediafire.com/file/wjjei3mmm0h/gullum VGA Topaz PhoneCanvas.cab

there's the .cab
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cruzzmz:
this one wz gullum dll inside?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reluttr:
Hrmm this is gonna be difficult XD, Im trying to avoid scalling down anything because I do not know if they can do it with the actual canvas or not.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mbarvian:
yes :)

i'll post newer cabs as progress is made in this thread

good work guys
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] redd214:
man that cab posted wreaked havoc on my phone!! had to hard reset, no worries though. might be because im cdma. good to you guys are making progress though

good luck!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] caldito:
Any idea on what to touch in the registry to fix this?

The call history logs keeps showing in the old canvas format.

I have installed Manilla2 and the other rodhium packages
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reluttr:
Again I am NOT porting the new dialer and ect and these are only mockups.

I have now completed the incall mockup :D, I based the design on the screenshot posted by dharvey4651 and a Raphael incall screen screenshot.

I hate the fact that the contact image has to be resized, but I would rather have well spaced out easy to touch controls over a pretty large contact image.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mbarvian:
that would be amazing if it could look like this :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Captain_Throwback:
+1 to this.

That would make me very happy :D.

If you could just give us what you have, I'll bet it's equal to (if not better than) the current Tachi we have, since we lack landscape and Video Call support.

Mike - The version of the Tachi dialer you made from the newer OEMs - was that worse than your original version? I'm just wondering which version we should use with the new 2.1 port. Which do you suggest (if the Rhodium dialer doesn't become available)?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MikeKnoop:
The most recent CAB I posted a few pages back introduced more problems and introduces no new functionality. Definitely want use the last V2D version of Tachi that was posted.

-Mike
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] B4PJS:
Right, I am gonna cab up what I have, so far it is just changes to the dialogs so that the dial screens in landscape and portrait are near as dammit perfect to the pixel.

I have worked out why the incoming and in call screens are in the phcanhtc.dll! It is because HTC have extended the dialogs so far past what MS originally intended that they have had to draw the dialogs from scratch. It has been a couple of years since I have delved into assembly but maybe me and Mike can knock heads and clean up those screens. Unfortunately I realised those screenshots I posted earlier in the thread was more due to just overlaying the Tachi dialer with the Rhodium resources than me actually making a big breakthrough. I have spent today at work (dont tell my boss!) tracaing through the phcanhtc in IDA andd have a fairly good idea of what is going on in there (many major changes in the version that I am using compared to what Mike provided) and so lets see what comes of it.

Anyway, give me a short while to cab up what I have and take some screen shots of what is still to be done and I will post them up for all to enjoy.

B4PJS
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] yozgatg:
now this is great news, these weeks, the htc diamond/touch pro community has alot of goodies coming up (this, new manila, new ezinput ...) :D

ps B4PJS, i don't care much about the landscape mode, as long as the portrait mode is fine, that's more than enough

this is really impressive work btw
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] B4PJS:
Just remeber that the slide to answer is inoperable but we all have hardware keys to answer and hang up anyway!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MRFERRARI23:
THIS IS AWESOME!!! So will this be released today??? very excited!! :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Captain_Throwback:
If you wouldn't mind providing the OEM/EXT package as well :)

Are the Answer/Ignore buttons in landscape fully viewable, or are they cut off as well?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] B4PJS:
Landscape it was the dial screen I had going good, otherwise same as ever :(

OEMs should come soon as well :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MRFERRARI23:
so this dialer in portrait mode works good just like the tachi dialer did?? the only issues really are in landscape mode your saying?? I hope this really gets released today so I can try it....im sure I speak for maannnnyyyyy of us lol!! Great job on this an thank you for your hard work an giving us goodies to enjoy!!

As Robert Dinero would say...... "You your good, Your good.....no, no ,no Your GOOOD!!! ;)

P.S. Any screen shots?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] B4PJS:
The only issue is that any of my fellow porting guys could have done this and probably have done! here is a cab if anyone wants to try it:

http://xda.b4pjs.co.uk/rhodcanvas/Rhodium_PhoneCanvas_3_5_B4PJS_V1a.cab

Images can be found here:

http://xda.b4pjs.co.uk/index.php?dir=rhodcanvas%2F

(If anyone wants to direct link, feel free, it is too late and I wanna go to bed :p)

I have narrowed down a few locations for resizing some of the screens but need to chat to mike about the hex values as he seems to be prettty good at this stuff.

Will post an EXT package in the morning. Enjoy

B4PJS
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MRFERRARI23:
You da MAN LOL...but im having trouble seeing the screen shots, for some reason there not loading properly?? :confused:

so this cab of the dialer works good in portrait just like the tachi an has the same working functionality??
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pastert33:
I'm having a problem loading the screenshots as well. Very nice work however!

Can anyone tell me if the CAB is uninstallable?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rwertz14:
Has anyone been able to download the cab?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wmserver:
I was able to download and try it out.

I wasn't able to find keypad when a call is connected.

I uninstalled mine and am back to Tachi Dialer just fine.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MikeKnoop:
I'll take a look at the cab, however I will be out of commission this weekend, and will have internet access/computer access again on Sunday.

-Mike
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] B4PJS:
If you ratate to landcape you can get at the dialer jsut fine in a call ;)

Well I think you guys took out my server within minutes of me posting last night! Gonna post a mirror shortly.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] yozgatg:
can anyone upload the cab to somewhere else, it's slow as hell here (download at about 1.8 kb/s..)

* ah just saw BP4JS is going to post a mirror, ignore this post
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] B4PJS:
MIRROR:

http://llamalord.net/xda/roms/users/b4pjs/index.php?dir=Rhodium%2F
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] teixeirabmb:
Looks like touch pro will have a long life, depite the lack of updates by HTC... Shame on them!

thanks to you and all this wonderful community, TP continues to be my favourite.

A special "thank you so much" for you B4PJS and your hard work. I'll made a small donation to your beer fund. You clearly deserve it if this works!

To Mods: This thread should be changed for its original name - Rhodium Phonecarvas VGA
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] yozgatg:
it's a good start, but still alot of things messed up but hey better than nothing, although i'm still returning to Tachi for now because i need to be able to access my keypad during call

hopefully you'll get it fixed in the future
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Qui-Gon Ginn:
Hi guys ,

i tried you cab . I have a problem with conferency ? It doesn't work . Is it normal?

I will see for video call cause in my house, i can t have 3G :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] B4PJS:
Video call definately works :) Conference may depend on a RIL driver, will have a look into it. It also may depend on whether your carrier allows 3 way calling...

I will get back to you on that though :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Qui-Gon Ginn:
Video Call doesn't work well for me.

When i do a video call, i can see who i call, but i can't send my video :(

And it's for WVGA , right? Cause i don't have all the dialer
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] xmckinzie:
AT&T definitely supports 3-way calling. They also have a feature called 6-way calling. I called and asked customer service to add it and she didn't know what I was talking about. I referred her to their website that mentions it and had her ask someone else...ten she found the info / or screen with details on it. She say she added it to the account and attempted to tell me how to use it for the Fuze. After she couldn't find instructions she asked me if I knew how to use it and I told her yeah.

Unfortunately, I was unable to get six-way to work with the Tachi Canvas. It didn't cost anything extra so, I will leave it in order to test with the Rhodium port. ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Captain_Throwback:
If it doesn't cost anything extra, I can try it with the AT&T Warhawk Dialer I'm currently using. I know 3-way calling works with my Dialer using the "Conference" feature, but I couldn't get more than that to connect. I wonder if it's just a matter of adding the feature?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MRFERRARI23:
whats the att warhawk dialer?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Aaron McCarthy:
more importantly.... where did you get it!?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Captain_Throwback:
The AT&T Warhawk Dialer is the dialer from the AT&T Warhawk, a.k.a. AT&T's variant of the Topaz (Touch Diamond 2).

There's a ROM for it over in the Topaz ROM section.

I modded the phcanrc.dll so that I can see the dialer in Portrait (though not in-call). I posted some pictures of it a few pages ago. It works well enough for me to use (and it has a landscape mode, which I can use to answer the phone and access the keypad in-call). It also supports VideoShare, which I don't use, but it's nice to at least have the option (of course, I have no idea whether it works). It also supports Conference, which I've tested with 3-way calling successfully. Apparently (as posted above), you have to have conference calling enabled to connect more than that.

If Barny & Mike can get to the bottom of the Rhodium dialer issues, we should be able to use the same method to mod the Warhawk dialer so us AT&T users can have a fully functioning Dialer as well.

Here's hopin' . . . :rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Baronic:
for those with video cannot be sent out while video calling, make sure u switch your camera on. its disabled by default. when in video call mode, u'll a button half covered (because WVGA) at the bottom left. press it, and it switches your camera on to send out the video.

excellent work so far. just gotta resize for VGA
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MikeKnoop:
To get the ball rolling again with the assembly hacking, here's a reiterated tip: register R2 is typically used as the y-coordinate when drawing controls/text to the screen.

There are two things I haven't been able to specifically find in phcanhtc.dll.

1. The slide-to-answer mechanism drawing routines

2. Buttons for incall (the 2 row, 3 column panel for example)

If anyone has the know-how to help out with finding a lead on these things, feel free to hit me on aim: ohsnapitsm1ke.

-Mike
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] B4PJS:
If tht panel works like the numberpad panel, and the dial mode selection panel, you will be looking for an (x,y) coord of about (0,503) or (0,439) for that panel - there is a graphic that has an extra row of buttons underneath that lot.

In landscape the coord (540,0) should be the placement for the panel of buttons on the right. I lost all my work when my IDA crashed so cant remeber if I had seen these values.

I am currently fairly busy at the moment looking for a new house so cannot give my all to this project unfortunately, though I will spend what little time I get investigating this further :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lpsi2000:
Do you have the link to site with the feature?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] xmckinzie:
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/basics/choosing-features-services/six-way-calling.jsp

I ignored the "only available to former customers of AT&T Wireless that have not upgraded to new rate plans" part and played ignorant. It made her dig deeper.

If Captain or anybody would like me to test the conference stuff, let me know what I need to do. I use EnergyROM and I am not a developer, but always a happy tester.;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Captain_Throwback:
If I have some time I'll cab up my Warhawk dialer and post it here so you can try the 6-way calling thing. I'm working on the Manila 2.1 project for the next day or so, but after that I should be able to put a quick cab together. The dialer isn't that pretty, but it works.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] xmckinzie:
ready and willing to test the "Warhawk" dialer.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Aaron McCarthy:
Can you post screen shots of it as well when you do?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Captain_Throwback:
Um, I already posted screenshots of it. I'll post the links to them again here.

See here and here . . .
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Aaron McCarthy:
Well then.. I stand corrected.. thank you for pointing those out for me!