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[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] vickylife007:
21193 is good, 21198 is great. Yeah they are all betas, they will remain so in name until there is an official release from MS, but they are stable for everyday use. If you like trying new things then try to catch up with the builds as they come out like two per week. I personally have had problems catching up.........................you may have a nack for this.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] lupiniii:
Actually I'm having a tough time keeping up too. I just tried Titan_21198_Beta_1. It's not bad, but in the few hours I've had it now there's Titan_21198_Beta_1.1. Haha... :D
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] vickylife007:
It gets better, 21314 is reported to be out.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] lupiniii:
What happened to all the releases in between!? Oh well at least I don't have to test all of them. :D
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] rajuabju:
I'm the same way...... I had, at one point, 30-40 apps installed and 20-30 games. Then I realized most of them were things I NEVER used. The last time I flashed my phone to DCD 3.3.4, I decided to only install stuff I actually use.... which is maybe 10 apps and 5 games at most. The phone is so fast without all that extra junk.

I played with WM6.5, and honestly, not that impressed. I dont see a huge difference. Maybe WM7 will have something amazing and make an upgrade worthwhile.

I see myself eventually going to a different OS though, depending on what HTC cooks up for us.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] catfishk:
WM7 will probably be too much for our Titans to handle; it may get obsoleted due to hardware requirements. my hope is for Linux (Android)! or whomever gives me Flash 10 first...
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] lupiniii:
Android...

From my searches (granted they haven't been too in depth) it would appear nobody is really picking up on Android builds for the Titan. The ones out there now are just apps to run on top of WM, which kinda makes it pointless. It seems the lack of memory on the Titan is an issue for the Android OS to run on it's own.

Has anyone heard different?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] pflatlyne:
I like to think of my Titan like the child that was born with an incurable genetic disease. I may love it and do all I can for it,but yes,in the end ,it is in fact dieing,and it started before it was even born. I just try to help it along doing all the things that other phones do and minimize its suffering while waiting for the inevitable.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] cturnbull802:
face the facts its old hardware, i dont know how you guys run win6.5 i couldn't handle all the rebooting to free up memory. as much as i like TF2d and win6.1 on my 6800 i cant wait to get either the hero or TP2 in a few months
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Showtime7:
I have recently upgraded to the TP2 and I must say, I will not miss the Titan anytime soon. With all the available memory, the beautiful resolution and near perfect keyboard, I would hate to have to ever use the Titan with all its limitations again. I do wish there were more hardware buttons like the titan had, but they are compensated for. It's slimmer, feels more comfortable in hand and up to the ear, and overall I'm very satisfied with this model. I suggest to all the Titan users to make the upgrade to the Rhodium, but of course there are other models out there. I just think this fits the same needs I had when I bought my Titan, with less limitations and smoother functionality. It will be better suited for 6.5 as well, the Titan cannot handle 6.5 and still be able to customize and add apps like everyone likes to do. Upgrading to 6.5 pretty much robs you of that.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] yznhmr:
you got one already? the Tmobile one?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] el_venga:
you guys are all right at some point. its diying but some of us dont need the upgrade yet.

some of u may remember the apache after titan came out, apache forum at ppcgeeks was the most active of all with the release of wm6 and wm6.1 by helmi_c. history will always repeat itself.

im really confortable with my xv6800 with wm6.5 build 21501 by ryanmogul, its really fast and for some reason works faster then other wm6.5 qvga with more memory like kaiser!!!

btw i still have my apache which is over 2 years old, though i sold the extended battery and keept a crappy one. wm6.5 loaded and works great!!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] lupiniii:
It's a slow death.

It's funny to see that after six months of posting this I'm still on my Titan! I was for sure going to upgrade, but I can't seem to give it up just yet -even with all it's little quirks. ;)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] RyanMogul:
The Titan is still a good phone. You can get them cheap and Mod them pretty well. Might not have as much memory as newer phones but it is still a nice phone. Very durable as well, its pretty hard to Brick a Titan while flashing. I have seen them stepped on, thrown, and dropped and still function 100%. Long live the Titan lol.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] DavidinCT:
I was looking over this and saying the same thing. I still stand firm on my titan does what I need for now, just starting to see how slow it is (just like anything in the computer market). Some of the newer 6.5 builds run really well on it but, it's not the fastest thing in the world.

Would I upgrade ? Maybe, if I got a TP or TP2 for almost nothing, I might make the switch but, I am looking forward to WM7 phones (mid next year),so my titan should hold me off.

I really don't want to sign a 2 year contract when the phones that I will want SHOULD be out in less than a year and paying $500+ for a phone is nuts (no contract)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Magislayer:
I will keep my Titan until October 11th. Then I will upgrade to the new HTC Hero. Everything I have seen and heard says this will be a killer phone. I will miss my full slide-out keyboard, but it will be worth it I believe.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] whats_that:
TP2 upgrade

I have been a faithful titan owner for almost 2 years and it has been a great phone upgraded from the 8125. I want to thank all of the people on this board because I have learned so much from just searching here and have taught several others that I work with how to upgrade their titans from what I have learned here. I do not post much here because of my job.

My poor titan has a small spilt in the corner of the screen and it is time for an upgrade. I am with Verizon and like their network the best out of the carriers that I have used. I am going to order a TP2 when it is available to my account and have been wondering if unlocking it is similar to the titan? I have read about the sim unlock that can be purchased and my understanding is that is different than the CDMA hardware unlock. If I do the CDMA unlock will I be able to put a prepaid sim in it also? MY understanding is the GSM is locked so that it can't be used here in the states, is that correct?

Thanks
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] boca300:
Saying goodbye....

Just like the XV6600 back in 2005, the 6800 has been a workhorse for me the past two years. Both were company phones, made a few changes to them while lurking for how-to's from the "Developers", dropped in snow, sand, etc. and never had one replaced. As a matter of fact, I don't believe I have opened a laptop in an airport or plane since I got the 6800.

I championed for phones like these at the company, being the first to get one. Now, that is all we offer to everyone. So it seems apropos that I was notified Friday that I would be getting an upgrade to the VZW Touch Pro 2 tomorrow.

I'm a HTC fan. I hope the new one serves me as well as the first two.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] lupiniii:
"You call it a hobby. We call it hope."

Many thanks are owed to you, Ryan, and the countless others who have made all this possible. Long live the Titan! hehe
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] gface2k:
Last week after having my Titan for a year, I upgraded to the tp2. The funny thing is that I think of the Touch Pro 2 as a Titan that actually works. I was especially blow away when I was watching a youtube clip on the htc youtube player and a phone call came in, the phone stopped the play back and switched to the dialer screen in a flash.

Even after all this I'm still not getting rid of my Titan anytime soon, the next project is to load up something like tomtom and use it as a GPS for my car.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Mrktmind:
I just got my xv6800 brand new from Verizon - they still had a few left. The xv6800 and the i760 are the last two phones you can get from Verizon without a forced data plan. So I think the used ones will hold their value for awhile and the following will stick around as well.

This is my first smart phone and I must say I was very surprised at the number of phone geeks out there! The amount of software, hacks, roms, etc. available for this phone was also surprising.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] qmriis:
I think this thread and idea is kind of stupid.

I just gave a Palm V to someone as a gift. It is ... over ten years old I think. Still a very useful device.

The Titan is a very cool little device. It will remain so for many years.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] lupiniii:
Titan purists...

Not sure how long you've been around these forums, but if it's been a while then you would notice that support, while still available today, is not what it used to be just a year ago and so on backward. This thread was started to see how many people still have their Titans, are using them (if you're here of course you would be or maybe you got lost along the way), and most importantly are still developing for it. Many developers (contributors) over the years have moved on to other newer models.

For those of us who still have our Titan, duh clearly it's not dead, but that doesn't mean it's not dying. I for one love my Titan, but now after several years believe it might be time to move on. Maybe I'll be giving my Titan away as a gift, like I did with my HTC Apache XV6700.

Bottom line is this thread was started to see how many people contributing are still out there and how active they are to the Titan cause.

Peace out! :cool:
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Gilliland:
Actually, mine might be. Yesterday, I ordered a new Touch Pro 2 to replace my Mogul. I think I've really hurt the Titan's feelings. :)

Today, it refuses to boot. It hangs part way into its boot process, or if it finishes booting, it hangs shortly thereafter. Yesterday it worked fine.

I called it a moment ago from my desk phone and it told me about the incoming call, vibrated and rang. But when I clicked "answer", it locked up.

The new phone will be here Monday. Good thing.

Anyway, I guess that helps to answer the original question. Some of us are moving away from the Titan because it is reaching its end of life - literally.

PS - after sitting for five minutes, suddenly I got a popup saying that "A problem has occurred with cprog.exe. Please tell Microsoft about this problem...."
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] lupiniii:
And on to new horizons...

I took the leap and switched carriers from Verizon to AT&T and in doing so I purchased the new HTC Pure. I can’t wait to test it out and see what new features are in-store for me. I’m not sure which HTC model the Pure actually is, I think it's the next generation Touch Diamond2, but I don't seem to see it on the site's phone list. It might be the Topaz.

So now in a just few short days my Titan will be headed for a drawer or box in a closet. Ha-ha. Nah, I'll still be on here seeing what cool new builds and things you guys come up with. I want to try to get the GPS to work without a carrier, if possible and fiddle around some.

So I guess even seriously maimed Titan still eludes death! :cool:
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] deddy777:
Yeah that would be great if you figure that one out (2 Gb) I will dump some cheese on you and I know many other would to. I had the Diamond before it was available, went thru 2 in 3 weeks and they bumped me to the TP. My interest in that lasted for almost a month. I started with the Touch, but like the Titan best of all. Currently I am running Mattsm 23069 6.5 with the M2d Mega from WhiteAliens thread.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] ZachPA:
Oh it's definitely interesting seeing just how many people still develop for the Titan.

For me, the reason I hang onto it is because Verizon doesn't seem to have anything out there that compares. They don't seem to sell the other HTC items anymore, and they seem to have a hard on for Blackberries. The Blackverry Storm leaves skid marks on the bowl, and the software for the Storm 2 won't be any different (though the hardware will be improved).

I'm waiting for the Pre, though I'm starting to get psyched about the Droid phones.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] drewcam888:
The touch pro 2 is out for verizon and it is great and nothing like gps is blocked.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] thejackalsmark:
I'm Starting to feel like Stallone in Demolition Man Reading this thread!!!

Jesus Christ!!! The last post on this thread was Oct 19th 2009?!?! DAMN!

STILL rockin w the ole Mogul as of March 17, 2012!!! Some of you who've posted, might be dead now, for all I know. Or @ least your Titans. lol I am posting this from mine via Opera mini 5.1 WM Native build + Extras. I'm using Ryan Mogul's 6.1 lite rom v1.1 but thinking of testing 1 of the newer 6.5 builds you mentioned or newer. I use TCPMP jan 2011 version from Bimbam I think (tried so many versions I've lost track.) SKINNABLE :-) At the moment I'm screwing with theme customizing apps for it. most launchers etc. KILL it's poor ram. using combo of Easy Launcher, HTC Home v2, HomeScreen ++, and majority of time I'll sacrifice HTC home to use my Tempus v13 flip clock on top. kinda crowds my background logo out a bit but my moniker pic's kind of a deal breaker. I RARELY use any other and not for long, when I do use any other. Background OR clock. Top n bottom bars are black via tsk allblack theme. Using DCinobar to hide bottom 1. Would love to make em transparent, but have yet to find easy SAFE way to do it. Need original rom files cause after extracting the needed ones from the nbh file of the ryan mogul rom I flashed, had to hard reset. THANK GOD FOR RESCO BACKUP!!! lol Using a modded Mortscript to switch between 1x and 3g. Will post a coupla screenies in a few. Got a Honey Do list sceaming @ me to be done! lol Btw, to Ryan Mogul and all the others on this forum as well as others like ppc Geeks etc. Thank you for COUNTLESS free programs and knowledge you've shared over the years! I've learned all I know bout this stuff from you and still learning. later, The Jackal.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] thejackalsmark:
Coupla more things

Here's another screen and the allblack tsk I use to make my bars TRU BLACK.

The taskbar in THIS shot is from the htc black glossy theme. Screen is just stock Today plugins, plus my Tempus Flip Clock. Btw, The reason my ram is so low in this & the other 2 screenshots is I'm listening to music on TCPMP, taking these shots with Capture, Writing these posts & uploading all this/previewing posts all @ SAME TIME! Not TOO bad for a device they were talkin bout tossing in a drawer nearly THREE years ago. I'm also typing all this w pcm on screen keyboard. Hardly ever USE the Slide out one. The IRONY. lol
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] LargePrime:
can not help with theams.

But i Do have a suggestion...

1) Get a copy of the stock ROM and flash it.

2) Download, install, run DFS

3) ##diag# and connect to pc. show each of the tabs and print screen them. save the images.

Now you can use this info if you phone dies as a donor for a new phone.

On a side note I have had two titans die on me in the last 6 months.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] trysomeothertime:
Guys,

I just ordered a new XV6800 for Verizon. Is there a link somewhere to the MR.2 ROM, and instructions on how to update?

Again, I am not looking to install custom roms, just want to update to the latest official one.

Thanks
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] thejackalsmark:
for trysomeothertime

Here is EVERYTHING you could want to know about this phone.

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=384&order=desc

Happy Reading! lol

As for flashing, Easiest way is via 2gb OR LESS storage card. I use a 512mb transend card solely for this purpose.

make sure you've UNLOCKED phone FIRST! I use Olipro 2.4 (Google it)

take the nbh file of your intended rom and rename it to TITAIMG.nbh and put on root of card. Then put phone into bootloader mode by pressing power, camera, and stylus in soft reset hole, ALL AT SAME TIME. hold till you see tri color screen go grey. you should then see "Checking" on screen. after it finds file it'll say splash1, splash2, and os, with instructions. just press power button again to flash. When it's done, just soft reset.

!!!WARNING!!! THIS WILL ERASE ANYTHING YOU HAD ON PHONE MEMORY BEFORE THE FLASH!!!

BACKUP EVERYTHING FROM MAIN PHONE MEMORY YOU WANT TO KEEP!!! I use Resco Backup. Not free, but WORTH IT'S WEIGHT IN GOLD! You can also reflash JUST new splash screens (the first two screens that appear on power on) in this manner. There are great tutorials for this on the forum. just search. I'll probly post intructions and what I use later. short on time at moment. (side note: As for Resco Backup, and MANY other apps, for that matter, If you're poor, LIKE ME, *ahem* "Google Is Your Friend!" lol Nuff said)

Hope this helps and that link should save you from getting flamed, for asking alot of noob questions. :-) -The Jackal

---------- Post added at 03:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:54 PM ----------

What are the advantages to using DFS or similar vs using backup utilities like Resco Backup, Sprite Bacup, etc? Read through some threads on it real quick, and seems like a pain vs the backup utilities. Is it more reliable? Am currently using a backup I made w RB from like 20 resets/restores ago (lol I Experiment w my poor Mogul ALOT) n No problems SO FAR. (Now I've probably jinxed it. lol)

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Umm, just Googled for your MR.2 rom but it's an android build, not Windows Mobile. You can still use it by putting it on storage card and using "Haret.exe" Again Google it.

for best results, partition your storage card w ext2 or ext3 partitions before putting on card. Again this forum has great tutorials for all this. DON'T try to flash it to the titan's "nand" memory! this phone doesn't have enough Ram (only 64mb) to make it worth it. YOU'VE BEEN WARNED.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] LargePrime:
DFS backs up settings so you can use it as a donor for a newer phone if it dies
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] trysomeothertime:
Old GPS page for XV6800?

I appreciate everyone's reply. I got my brand new never opened XV6800 a few days ago. It turns out I already have the MR.2 ROM pre-installed. I wanted to enable the internal GPS receiver, but all forum activity points me to the page

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=TitanGpsFix

where supposedly all step by step instructions are located. I cannot get to that page - it seems that it may have been deleted. I made a request at the wiki migration project page

http://xdaforums.com/wiki/XDA-Developers:Page_migration_project

but do not know when and if the page will be reinstated with all of the required files to install GPS. Could anyone please help me out here? I am looking to enable the GPS on the Verizon XV6800, and wanted to either get clear instructions on how to enable it on the stock ROM, or how to flash it to a custom ROM and enable it that way. I know both are possible, but I would prefer the stock ROM way, since I have never custom flashed my phone, and have no idea how to do it.

Thanks a lot for your help, and its great to see that there is still some activity here.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] thejackalsmark:
Just outta curiousity, what does it say under Settings, System, About, for the build number of your rom?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] trysomeothertime:
Radio: 3.37.78

ROM: 3.57.605.2

The main problem is that the old wiki page, which supposedly had detailed directions and all of the required files, redirects me to the main page of the new xda wiki. I have no idea who to contact to possibly get the information from that page.

It would be nice to get GPS working on this thing. It seems like even those on the stock MR2 ROM had success in doing so.

I appreciate your help.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] thejackalsmark:
This should give you that GPS, plus better phone signal to boot

Unzip the attatched nbh file, and place on root of 2gb or less Fat32 formatted micro sd card,(non hc if possible. If the phone came with a **** 512 mb card like mine did, that's PERFECT.) as it is titled and after unlocking phone from pc with olipro 2.40, DISCONNECT PHONE FROM PC,(A soft reset right here might not hurt.) Put card in phone, put phone into bootloader mode. After it says "Checking" and finds file, just press the power button to flash the new radio to phone. Then SOFT reset. This should not hard reset the phone BUT Just in case, ALWAYS BACKUP ANYTHING YOU DON'T WANT TO LOSE ON PHONE'S MAIN MEMORY BEFORE DOING THESE KINDS OF OPERATIONS. This nbh file is the latest official titan radio. Somewhat of an upgrade from the 1 that came stock. This should fix your GPS issues. The radio is compatible no matter who your service is through or what rom you have flashed. btw, What I was looking for is the number AFTER the word "BUILD" on the settings,system,about page. for instance, mine's: (Build 20275).

Also, I've included: Olipro 2.40,(Install to pc) the Titan radio rom, 7zip(This 1's a cab you can install and use on phone) to unzip all this, lol

plus a coupla extras you should find most useful: Opera mini 5.1, for surfing the web just like desktop browser, and quick menu start menu replacement. EXTREMELY USEFUL! (I use the "Hibernate" feature CONSTANTLY to regain my ram.( BETTER than Oxios IMHO.) As for that wiki page, I searched on it for a titan kitchen to cook my own rom and there was nothing there. I feel your pain on that one. That Titan development link I gave a few posts back is the best I can do for ya on that 1. Beyond that, All I can tell you is do what I do: "Google". Another great forum for info on this and many other phones is PPCGEEKS. Between this forum and theirs, there isn't MUCH left to question about this phone, customizing or adding various apps. Oh yeah, Any other questions just ask. Hope this helps.

If it does, please feel free to hit the "Thank You" button. :-)

EDIT: Since your phone Came shipped with an ANDOID rom, The CAB files I uploaded are probly USELESS to you. arrrgh! You can still use olipro to unlock and Install radio via sd card, but you'll probly have to find apk versions of 7zip, Opera Mini, and Quick Menu. Sorry, Forgot yours shipped with android. First time I've heard of that. That MR2 rom is like 118 mb or so. doesn't leave the phone much room to breathe with only 64 mb of ram and ABOUT 156 mb of usable phone storage out of the box. Are we sure we're talking bout the SAME phone? There's some NEW remake of the Titan that I've seen online. Is it THAT 1 you have or The REALLY old ORIGINAL that THIS thread is about? I've attatched a pic of the 1 this thread is about.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] trysomeothertime:
The phone is the same but for Verizon. It is the XV6800. The ROM is definitely not Android - this is what I believe to be the MR2 version, and its Windows Mobile 6.1. The phone was never opened, and was brand new in box, so it most probably could not have customized to Android. Thanks for your help! However, it seems that your ROM is for Alltell, and I need Verizon. Perhaps the RyanMogul ROM will do? Is it possible to flash that one using an SD card? Seems like the safest way to me! Also, will your unlocker work for that?

Thanks again!