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[XPERIA X1 General] emuneee:
It's far more profitable for SE to release a new XPERIA product with Windows Mobile 6.5 than it is to upgrade the X1's firmware. With that said, this doesn't upset me because one of the wonderful XDA developers will cook a ROM with a stable version of WM6.5. :)
[XPERIA X1 General] rpereira:
So far itje's WM 6.5 build 21202 runs quite fast and stable. I had hopes for a SE release but don't really care anymore, at this point I don't even think SE could release anything better that what itje is already cooking (except for drivers maybe).
[XPERIA X1 General] p_nair:
Hi! do u mind to share the update?
[XPERIA X1 General] shithead:
He meant the custom roms, not official updates.

The 6.5 roms (on every device though) are custom roms and are taken from a beta 6.5 Rom.

If you really wanna try it you should check the Xperia's Rom Development section.
[XPERIA X1 General] Shadowdh:
Didnt he mean that they have released the R2 series of ROMs and now look like they will release R3... so therefore already released one update (official) and look like they are releasing another...??
[XPERIA X1 General] kudakwashemutsauri:
Yes Maybe even 7

I think it will rum 6.5 and even 7 hopefully, there was an official Microsoft Video for something tht looks exactly like Windows 7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ8R5IleOmg
[XPERIA X1 General] Xkan:
I hope they'll releas it, but I'm not quite sure, but when we get R3A with flash and so on the support seems to work and maybe...
[General Questions and Answers] doubts:
i downloaded "v-Tap"but, i have one more question, is it possible to install flash player ?if so or what version?

links are appreciated :)

i want to be able to play videos on the website i search for, on my "T-mobile Wing"/herald. browser.

thank you, for any useful info.
[General Questions and Answers] nir36:
well, you can use FlashLite 3.1 for that...
[General Questions and Answers] doubts:
can you provide me with a link?i will really appreciate it:)thank you
[General Questions and Answers] nir36:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=423860
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Fruzion:
How do you create custom icons for the bottom slider? I have already gotten the actual pictures, I just need to find out how to put them onto my phone...

Is there a certain manila file? because I have manila editor and could do it that way.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Crazyrooster:
You have to edit a couple of manila files for the icons. You could use Manila Editor or CFC GUI to replace the images. The easiest to do this is just to edit an existing iconset that comes with Manila Customizer. That way you exactly know which images should be replaced in witch manila file.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nearlygod:
Hi,

just because i don´t understand why i should hardreset after a flash, i wanted to open a thread on this. Some people say you have to do it 2-3 times.

Because it doesn´t sound any logical to me i wanted to ask around, if anyone really has experienced a difference.

Maybe somebody adanced could even explain, if or if not this could do any difference.

If it finally does: When do you do it? Before Windows says it is going to do some adjustments and wants to softreset or after?

Thx in advance to help me clarifing this,

nearlygod
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] onkolog:
Yes,it is not logical...I agree with you...It's really stupid...I never had Hard Reset after flashing and I never had problems with ROMs...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] pLUSpISTOL:
I disagree, only once have I NOT hard reset after flashing and the speed was slower, I ended up reflashing and hard resetting made it faster again!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nearlygod:
Ok, nice, we need a lot more people with a lot more experience in having hardresetted or not the same rom and tested it a lot.

Question: Isn´t flashing a rom the same as a hardreset? Purging all existing data and writing an image file?

I never had to "hardrest" my pc after writing an imagefile back on to it.

nearly
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mallman:
i second this. And it has happened more than once to me. You may not have a problem but har resetting assure you do not. Nothing worse than flashing and setting all those settings and realizing it is running slow...... then you start over.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] alexis_p3300:
sometimes i do some not.never had problems either..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] onkolog:
Yes,it is same process )))Why I have to do same thing 2 or more times))))please turn on your logic guys)))
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sammypwns:
you have to hard reset to clear out all of the stuff in storage. you only need to do it once though and you do it whenever. you have to do it because in order to save power your phone does not zero out something you delete and the remaining bytes could affect the performance. it's just like why you always format your hard drive completely before you install or reinstall an operating system. you can the effects everywhere, too, if you look closely like how your phone might have saved the username and password to a website that was there from a previous flash. there are some things that might be afffecting your phone that you dont see like a 1 instead of a 0 in a registry setting that isnt even supposed to be in the rom. no a flash is not like a hard reset as a flash doesn't wipe out everything, it just overwrites it
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] onkolog:
But flashing like a Hard Reset)))it erase all your stuff and write new information)))

Don't use Windows PC)))and you don't need every month reinstall your operation system)))also you don't need to format your hard drive)))

Like a fantastic))but if you safe your cookies on your SD card it could be)))

Guys you should do Hard Reset many times before flashing too)))
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] stepw:
Every time a ROM is flashed, storage partition is wiped/replaced/reallocated. In essence it's an equivalent of a hard reset, so there's really no point in doing a hard reset unless your ROM image was so buggy that it didn't allocate storage partition properly. If that's the case, hard reset may be helpful, but I wouldn't go with that ROM obviously.

When you flash a stock ROM, you are never required to hard reset thereafter, why it should be different for a customized ROM?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] onkolog:
Really GOOD POINT)))Why HTC doesn't required us to do Hard Reset after or before:D:D:D flashing stock ROM...!!!???
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jim256:
Well that claim right there is huge. Does anyone truly definitevely know whether a flash:

A) Completely whipes everything out, then writes new information, or

B) Simply overwrites data that it has too, and if there is a file already present on the device but not in the new ROM, it just leaves it alone

?

Jim.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bram_smulders:
I've flashed dutty's rom wich he claimes todo 2 hardresets after flash.

I dind't do any hard resel and all is running fine, better than before.

I've never run a hard reset after flash, and the only problems i've had were the same the ones had with hard reset...

So my opinion:"it's not neccisairy(or whatever you spell it)"
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] DaveShaw:
Doesn't the stock RUU do a Hard Reset after flashing with a task 28?

Also, the stock ROM's are less likly to be messed up unlike the cooked ones, where we are always trying to squeeze a little more out of them (sometimes with unknown adverse effects).

mercshle used to advise, Flash, HR and re-flash, but I can't recall any reason why (his threads went when he did).

@OP, realy you should have searched before starting this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=439164

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=410485

http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...shing&sa=Search&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

etc... :p

Dave
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Elim:
I am no expert in flashing but it is NOT the same process. The hardware is quite different and self the flash- and hardreset-process on our GSM are NOT the same. The flash-process overwrites the memory and the hard-reset rewrite the memory.

Maybe it is a myth but therefore we need a hardware expert, who can explain what really happends when we flash but the documentation explains the difference between flashing a stock ROM and a non-stock ROM and that also by a stock ROM a hardresat is made (automaticly).

So, it is normal, that some have no problems without a hardreset and others have. It depends what you have installed and changed in the ROM before. This can affect the "new" ROM or not.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Totally agree with Elim above. I'm no expert myself but I have flashed countless roms. I've found that some roms after flashing can appear sluggish and after a hard reset the performance improves dramatically.

Duttys latest roms he has requested 2 hard resets and i've noticed that startup after flashing sometimes isn't complete without a second hard reset. Tested this on different phones and its not repeated on all which is strange behaviour.

Other roms don't require 2 hard resets, but still improve after one hard rest. So maybe its something hardwired into the roms themselves:confused:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] onkolog:
HAHA:D:D:D It's so funny)))

After each Hard Reset you'll have different color of the screen)))):D:D

It's stupid...It means he cannot built a ROM correctly)))

Why I don't have this problem in my ROM...we both use same OEM (Rhodium and Topaz)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Explain this?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] onkolog:
HAHA)))

After first you have white screen, do you?)))
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] SamsungGalaxySamsung:
Ok Guys,

it's like this. Some rom images are really buggy cooked.

A hard reset is also necessairy because all the data of the previous rom hasd to be deleted. That's why by the hard reset it goed in bootloader so that no prog can be running so that it can be overwritten good.

Sometimes with the Touch Pro roms, the camera driver can't be overwritten that results in a not working camera.

Hard reset will do the magic.

So always hard reset, it takes a minute of two and it saves problems.

Thread closed :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] SamsungGalaxySamsung:
HTC ''doesn't know'' that we cook our own roms ;-)

They use official oems, xip sys etc etc ..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] onkolog:
Where is logic?))I can use stock SYS and XIP too...Just take it from stock ROM)))
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] chainbolt:
Over the last 3 years I have flashed maybe 50 ROMs (probably more). It never crossed my mind to hard reset. Why should I do such thing? :confused:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
I've also flashed countless roms, and I've noticed improvements sometimes after hard reseting. I'm not saying every rom or all roms, but I've always made a point of making sure I do a hard reset after every flash. Next time you flash a rom test it as normal for 24hrs etc and then do same but only hard reset after flashing and see if you notice a significant improvement or not. Then post your results:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] chainbolt:
Will try that. But apparently there was no need so far. :p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Elim:
Oh, you can certificate you ROMs? When not, there is a difference, if you like it or not, if you know it or not. :rolleyes:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
If I'm wrong I'll be the first to put my hand up and apologize, but isn't it that the Hard Reset completely clears all of the storage memory allocated to the device leaving only the ROM data; where as flashing a ROM only overrides the existing ROM image??

EDIT

Another quote from JimmyMcGee (Another Moderator)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] onkolog:
Yes,I can)))when you create nbh files it'll be sighed with certificates automaticaly)))If It doesn't sigh ROM you cannot install it)))
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
I have, as others have mentioned before, actually noticed a difference in performance between hard-resetting after flashing and not hard-resetting after flashing. I have no idea, why that makes a difference - but the difference is big enough for me to be certain that I'm not just imagining it...

And onkolog: What's with all those brackets in your text??? It makes it really hard to read! :confused:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] onkolog:
It's a code))))))))))))):p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mcdull:
Most people reports "Hard Reset" improve the speed.

That may related to the NAND Flash refresh problem. When you just have your machine updated with new ROM, you are actually writing in lots of data.

Even NAND flash is good in write speed but it still requires time to do some wear-leveling job afterward. And then it will drag your system.

But after a short period of time it should be done and your system should be fast as normal. So I guess no hard reset is actually needed.

If some of you has experience in using X50v WM5/6 rom which has the NOR flash on board. You will notice how SLOW it could be just after flash the new rom. And I have to put it overnight to resume its speed.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Thanks bro, interesting reading. Think I will continue to do my Hard Reset after each flash!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] DaveShaw:
Thanks mate, nice descriptions :)

So... I think, that means I got it right with the task 28 / 32 thing - my guessing skills are getting better :p

I'm therefore going to guess that the SPL does not clear user storage after SD card flashing either?

Dave
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] stepw:
Yes, that was a perfect hit, err.. guess.

I've taken a quick look and storage does not seem to be cleared when ROM is updated via SD. It may still happen after the device is reset after the actual update, but I doubt.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gaiden:
good explanation man.... so definitely its a truth/Fact!!! so ill keep doing itt
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gaelynx:
I do format my PC and reinstall the OS after a long while of use, and it does indeed clean everything and make the computer run faster (well back to "normal") :D

But then here if we compare I would say that hard reset is format and reinstall
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Xeon:
I hope your are talking about low level format... because when you do a quick format all data remains on the disk but you cannot access or view them ( unless you use disk recovery tolos) .. links to files are simply deleted and format sets up an empty file system on the disk and a clean boot sector.

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I think there are lot of tweak tools ( not all for sure ) that has a psychological impact on the end users regarding ROM performance and thus may not really bring improvement or what so ever but reading posts of people claiming that they noticed a better performance resulting from the cabs could make you believe they really do the trick. Afterall you will keep them because usually if they do not speed up the system , they for sure do not screw it up. But again, you will psychologically feel by keeping them. So If you dont mind wasting few mins hard resetting your device, why not doing it ( just to be on the safe side)... you will lose nothing and free up your mind from doubts.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mcdull:
Do not hard reset unless it is necessary. Putting all flash blocks into 1 (if it is what a hard reset done, I doubt!) will certainly shorten the life of your flash memory. In the same theory, never , NEVER do deframent for your flash drive. It should be handled correctly with wm6 build in driver.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] filmero:
I don't do it either. I did it once and it made no difference.

Regards,
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Infestor:
I can only speak for my (now deceased) HTC Prophet, but when I forgot to hard reset after flashing a cooked rom there, I wasn't able to sync to my exchange server (got an out of memory error). This occured about 5-10 times to me. A hard reset _always_ resolved that issue. Now I know that correlation does not imply causation...but that seems to be a good indicator that a hard reset is actually useful. Maybe this problem only occurs in "badly" cooked roms, but who knows which one is good or bad? I'll stick to hard resetting :D!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Touchmypro:
I defrag my flash drive and instantly notice a performance gain when it comes to opening Htc photo album and the time it takes for all the pics to pop up.

But now that we have various opinions on the hard reset let me asks this, if some believe that the flash overwrites info on the ROM and some think it removes it complete and replaces it with a fresh image(which I'm not dis agreeing or agreeing to either) then wouldn't it be of benefit to have some type of defragmentation program to defrag the ROM itself? Or is there one made even? Just curious, if anyone has the answers please share.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] stepw:
The way flash oriented file systems are organized, there's little fragmentation.

File system driver is doing a good job managing the underlying partitions without maintenance. Optimizing/defragging a flash file system would cause unneccessary wear due to repeating read/erase/write cycles and reduce flash lifetime. Not worth it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nearlygod:
applying a backup

so, here we are.

Let´s assume a hardreset is a very good idea, because it erases all data.

What´s your next step usally after flashing a new rom? Installing everything up from the scratch or restore a backup (spb, sprite ect)?

If you restore a backup, doesn´t that revert the benefits from hardresetting?

nearly
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ZoZo2:
Hard disk drives need defragmentation to align the data on the disk so that when the files are read, the head does not need to move, and it can achieve sequential read/write speed. Head movements incur several milliseconds of delay, which are part of the "access time" mentionned in HDD specifications.

Flash drives do not have disks and heads like hard disk drives. Their access time is constant and sequential and random read speeds are the same. Flash drives do not need defragmentation, and should not be defragmented because it shortens their life time.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_drive#Advantages

Actually, flash drives such as USB keys and memory cards are almost always formatted with legacy hard-disk oriented file systems such as FAT.

And even if they had "flash oriented" file systems, they would rather favor fragmentation for wear-leveling than try to reduce fragmentation, since that has practically no impact on performance on flash media.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mcdull:
Yes, deframentation do speed up your device but the trade off is the life span of your flash unit. The mechenism of deframentation is to move the block into continous location and usually perform certain read write cycles to complate a block movement. Especially if you have less space left on the device and the deframentation will spend more cycles on moving. Also, when you always defreg your drive means that you always perform write task on the very beginning (just after the flash ROM area) of the flash disk and thus it will die easily. In fact, the seek time of flash disk is very fast in compare with traditional hard disk. The feeling that your units run faster doesn't really necessary because of the block allocation.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] DRTigerlilly:
well onkolog by own experience with your roms, i flashed the lite version this morning, started into the os, and found nowhere to select manilla, it was not in the list under today settings, did the hard reset, and started back into the rom, and that was when manila appeared as option under the today settings, so it seems there might be some validity to the hard reset talk, though logically it makes no sense.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] stepw:
That's a valid point indeed, but you can't use USB or memory card to store a WinMo ROM, so some filesystems used in internal flash are perfectly "flash oriented". You are right they were designed more with flash life than fragmentation in mind.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] carlowise:
hard reset

I think that hard reset is the same process as you flash your bios on mbo.

the manual for bios says that you need to load bios defaults after flashing because some setting from old one could still be loaded. the same thing is with flashing roms on pda, (thats different from formating hdd)

So hard reset is like making load bios defaults. but I agree that only once can do the yob. there is no need for second one.

I assume that dutty writes hard resset twice because some users which had problems with rom didin't do hard reset. so many problems with the rom were yust because of not doing hard reset, and they was think that rom has some bugs. I personaly always doing hard reset once and din't experience any bugs at all. so I think that dutty says hard resset twice to put very serius mening of hard resseting at all. and lots of people doing it after that.
[Touch HD General] lvmlpt:
Hello,

I was using my HD normally until today morning when suddenly it starts to be very very slow to open programs or even usinf touchflo. I reset the telephone and the problem continues. So I´ve tried to reset it without the SD Card (SanDisk 16gb) and discovered that the telephone started to work properly.

So, the telephone is working good without the SD Card, but with it is just a very very slow pda.

What I have to do?

Sorry about my english.

Luiz Victor
[Touch HD General] cxkx:
Apparently the allocated cluster size during formating makes a big difference in performance, have you formated yours before using it? You can copy all the contents to your hard disk, format the card through windows and move everything back, see if that helps. Also found a couple of good sites explaining this by searching google for "microsd allocated cluster size".
[Touch HD General] tkolev:
Reformat the card. I experienced the same thing with mine after taking a photo and aparantly it became written on a bad sector or something on the card. So HTC Album constantly tried to read the file to present the thumbnail and the phone became very, VERY slow. Be sure not to just make a quick format but to check for errors after that, because if you don't, you'll have the same problem again.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CG2xRandy:
I was just using my g1 when suddenly the data connection symbol went away and my phone stated telling me I had no connection. It hasnt come back either. But I put my sim card in a different phone and the data connection is working! I've even factory reset my g1 and it still has no data connection. Now i cant even reregister my device without the data connection... SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP!!!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BSDADON:
i just had the same issue for the past half hour. i just re-flashed the radio again and its working fine now, maybe give that a shot:confused:

heres the link for the 1.22.14.11 radio update that i use:

http://jf.odiness.com/RC33/RC33radio_update_testkeys.zip
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] savethechicken:
I called into T-Mobile and if you are on their network there is an outage on the East Coast right now.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] g4m3rz:
I was roaming around times square when i lost my network connectivity.. a few restarts later i gave up and decided to flash once i got home..

luckily saw this post before doing it :)