yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G1 Android Development] TheDudeOfLife:
I can confirm a few things on the latest build(s) (using 4.5)

A2DP works, doesn't lock up on pairing. No hangs, all glory.

Apps work great from sd partition. The info is all over the place (darkrift made a nice howto)

Getting ready to update to this latest 4.5 'update' from about thirty minutes ago. Gonna try a nonwipe from 4.5 to 4.5.

Haykuro, great great great work on all of these. It's been a pleasure testing each build. Can't wait for 5.0.

Ever thought about adding a revision to the builds like 4.5r1 r2 and so on. The timestamp on the post definitely helps me remember if i got the 'latest' build yet.

Again great work. Thanks for all you do.

So far so good. It's nice doing an update and not needing a wipe. (I'm not an expert, if you don't wipe after dumping....you might get some crap in your pants)
[G1 Android Development] jgu71424:
?????????????

Does anyone know if 4.9 has been fixed for the issue that was happening when you end the call and it force close?

Thank you all:)
[G1 Android Development] TheDudeOfLife:
Load it and find out.

I am sure he would have mentioned that since it seems to be affecting all the 4.9 users. (4.5 is working great)
[G1 Android Development] ratdrsuperstar:
i just installed 4.5 its way more stable than 4.9 i just like the black sms background....black keyboard plus black background=da ****
[G1 Android Development] jgu71424:
out of the box

i havent read anything about JF do you guys think he is trying to come out with something bigger and better?

remeber out of the box question

dont yell cause then i yell:D
[G1 Android Development] maubig:
When playing with this build earlier, I of course was having the same problem. I ended up trying RC33radio_update_testkeys.zip for the radio on the 4.9. It seemed to end the force close problem but i didnt play with it long enough to know how stable it is in the long run.

While on the subject of radios, I just flashed the latest 4.5 build and it seems fairly stable so far (need to poke and prod more hehe) but anyway my tower connection was horribly unstable and I had no data (only have EDGE here in HI). It seemed like it kept trying to connect to ATT then back to Tmobile. So I tried several different radio versions with no luck and ended up playing with the Network settings and finally seem to have a stable radio now with data working great. Seems that enabling Airplane Mode and then disabling it reset the radio good and proper. BTW yes I did do wipe/reset several times. Just sharing my encounter if anyone else ends up with an unstable acting radio.

...and of course huge thanks to haykuro and all other developers/hackers who make all this fun possible. Damn I love my phone! Thanks u guys...
[G1 Android Development] maubig:
Ok connection unstable again :( Anyone using only EDGE and having a stable radio? What version of radio are you using? I'm running 4.5 latest build with 1.22.14.11 radio. I cant seem to keep it locked on tmobile's network. Any ideas?
[G1 Android Development] dixxa:
I've been searching in all the threads and I wanted to know if the regular usb headset were working, My g1 is my mp3 player and I don't wanna buy a bluetooh headset just to listen music ....
[G1 Android Development] robpet2:
nope it hasnt been fixed yet... but the 4.5 runs too smooth...
[G1 Android Development] Baldyman1966:
haykuro's last tweet said audio and camera fix (

POSSIBLY

) for tomorrow.
[G1 Android Development] Autarkis:
Haykuro is elite! :D

That said, I'm running the "old" 4.5 build of yesterday :rolleyes: ... I'd love to have MP3s as well, but I'd love to have latitude!

Does the new 4.5 with SD have Latitude? Is there even a changelog somewhere? I heard Haykuro had a blog somewhere...
[G1 Android Development] Gimpeh:
At the moment all he has is a twitter page. http://twitter.com/haykuro
[G1 Android Development] Baldyman1966:
to get lattitude, download "lattitude enabler" from the market.
[G1 Android Development] Autarkis:
Thanks!

Thanks, that worked totally painlessly. :)
[G1 Android Development] dixxa:
I don't like that possibly but that's better than nothing.
[G1 Android Development] Baldyman1966:
Give the guy a break, I wouldn't know where to start on fixing hardware issues.
[G1 Android Development] KPeriod:
An interesting chain of events last night ended up with me flashing 4.5 with apps to sd. So far, no regrets.

Great work.
[G1 Android Development] dixxa:
I'm not complaining don't get it wrong :)

I'm talking with him sometimes on gtalk .

It's just frustating, that's the only thing that keep me on JF's build :(

that's all :cool:
[G1 Android Development] reuthermonkey:
I'm starting to agree. People who can't "search" definitely shouldn't be flashing their phones... unless they want to do it right, and choose to remove their battery in the middle of the flash.
[G1 Android Development] Baldyman1966:
I think that potentially bricking your phone should be a rite of passage for all noobs. A bit like throwing a child in a swimming pool and seeing if it swims.

But then I'm just cranky today.:D
[G1 Android Development] Autarkis:
Yeah. Like the Spartans: they allegedly sent their new recruits into their military (at age 6 or something) into a winter wilderness without clothes, food or weapons to fend for themselves for a season.

But then, I've been cranky for months. :rolleyes: THIS IS SPARTA!!!
[G1 Android Development] dskyers:
back to normal

how do i get back to narmal jf 33
[G1 Android Development] Ronnymes:
Does the wired headset works now with the latest build?
[G1 Android Development] Baldyman1966:
Did you do a nandroid backup?
[G1 Android Development] dixxa:
well it's not exactly the same, here the children are jumping on their own in the swimming pool altought they read everywhere

DO IT ON YOUR OWN RISK !!

This is beta test so don't complain

A full version is coming soon

But nvm they never learn and keep asking and posting the same question over and over and over....
[G1 Android Development] jrherras:
is the newly uploaded 4.5 still recognized as ADP build in market? or should I go for 4.9 so I can still see all apps?
[G1 Android Development] Baldyman1966:
:):):):):):):):):):):):)
[G1 Android Development] dixxa:
See i don't lie...
[G1 Android Development] thulinhlun:
OK sorry for didnt been follow to the post for a while (only 1 - 100 something) so i dont know alot of stuff still. Im thinking to go to 4.5 so here some of the question i got:

- Can i go back to to JF33 without Nandroid? (spent an hour to firgure how to use Nandroid)

- is Build 4.5 have market app working?

- Do i need to go to Build 4 then Build 4.5?

- How to get to 4.5? update.zip - Alt+s - wipe that's it, correct?
[G1 Android Development] chitownboi24:
Has anybody noticed that when you try to step up an email in the Email app it says that you habe the wrong password. And when I try to check an account I already have set up it shows the number of new mail you have but it doesn't show the new mail
[G1 Android Development] :
i see paid apps with 4.5 no problems.
[G1 Android Development] dixxa:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3549200&postcount=875

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=499916

All you have to do is search.

Can a moderator clean this thread like deleting or moving all those noobish question to the right thread?
[G1 Android Development] Baldyman1966:
YYNY :):):)
[G1 Android Development] Baldyman1966:
Thats actually a good question, can mods deleate posts from threads and do they have the power to confur this power on others (limited to this thread only).Then a handfull of deputies could clean up this town.
[G1 Android Development] d00m:
I think a FAQ would be most effective. Anyone want to do one so we can get rid of these "WHERE CAN I DOWNLOAD ROOT IS IT EXPENSIVE" type questions.
[G1 Android Development] hondamx525:
HAHA. That example question gave me a good chuckle.
[G1 Android Development] dixxa:
even with a faq people won't read it ....

thulinhlun asked where to download 4.5 build... it's in the first page .....
[G1 Android Development] KPeriod:
Am I the only one who isn't bothered by noob questions? I think I'm actually more bothered by how everyone tends to freak out whenever they are asked.

I enjoy reading the forums and figuring out most things for myself by piecing together random info I can find via searching. But not everybody wants to do that, it's no problem for me to answer a question if I know the answer and in the end it does save the asker time.
[G1 Android Development] Karolis:
I totally agree! No one was born knowing. We were all n00bs at some point.

And now we'll get bashed on our heads for going off-topic :)
[G1 Android Development] ben29pickett:
Kudos, some who finally feels the same way i do on the matter, Ok.. So the questions are stupid? Shure i admit to that, but would you rather they bugged us than the gods like JF?:p Heck no!

Geez, Live a little give the little men a break :) Right ? Wernt we all NOOBS at one point? I may have the status of a noob, I dont post but i love to read the posts on here and they make me lol:p But, Some of the people flippin out at the lil guys is kinda OTT..

Sorry had to be said, If it was a mod? Would you flame them?

I had to have my say.. ill go back to my noob corner now :d
[G1 Android Development] Mr. Moe:
Flashed 4.5 with superuser and There's no MARKET icon in the icon Tray? Google did not sync, didn't even ask me to log in or set up my account.

So no contacts, email, MARKET.
[G1 Android Development] mrjay:
excellent work haykuro!

i installed the lastest 4.5 with applications on SD and everything worked without a problem.

A2DP works without skipping and freezing so far, most of the applications i use are working (OI File manager, dxtop, AppsInstaller, etc.). waiting for exchange support and everything will be 100% great.

once again great job haykuro!

offtopic: every answer is here! you just need to search a bit for the right answer. it took me almost an hour to partition the SD card and move the applications to SD using the SDK, (have no idea on linux) so first read then ask. i'm not a big poster as you can see i have around 150 post and joined in 2006 and i always found the right answer by reading and searching :).
[G1 Android Development] ben29pickett:
Which version did you flash? If your not using Apps to SD but installed it, This maybe the problem? But meh, im just guessin... 4.5 and 4.9 work for me:D
[G1 Android Development] Mr. Moe:
See above arrow
[G1 Android Development] statik_ip:
I know what you mean Dixxa but I'd read a Faq, a "recent update summary" or anything of the sort, this thread is a fast moving one and I swear on Friday there was there were only 120 pages and I took a break for the weekend and when I come back I have a novel to read, which most of it is questions that has already been answered in previous post.
[G1 Android Development] got23hops:
So does this mean that the stereo bluetooth is fully functional?
[G1 Android Development] dixxa:
that's it !

Ok now just take a minutes and look how many pages "noobs" like that asked for the same question.

When i come to this thread to see if there is some change i must browse almost 10 pages of:

How can i install

does adp work

where can I get htc sync program ... blah blah blah

I like to share with people but too many of them are just waiting for kind guy (or girl) like you to do the job.

I'm not considering myself as a god or anything like that look,

Signed since 2007 and only one hundred of messages. I'm not a spammer or a noob who just beg for this and that.

Like everyone I search and leave comments IN THE RIGHT THREAD.

:D

edit

and just right after !

Come on is that a joke ??
[G1 Android Development] ben29pickett:
Hmmm, Then i have no idea?:S All i can say is i'd reccomend a full wipe flash then wipe?

Also, that other one is the wallpapers and audio sounds that got taken out to make room for other things, Seeing as many people replace there ringtone tho with a mp3 Some people might not require them..
[G1 Android Development] xyrcncp:
The one that says:

4.5 (Apps to SD) means it supports Apps to SD. The other doesn't.

Extra Resources (Wallpapers, audio), just means that, the wallpapers and audio that come stock on the firmware.
[G1 Android Development] ben29pickett:
If you read his post tho it says some problem with apps like market? So i was just thinking? Would installin apps to SD cause this kind of problem?
[G1 Android Development] kenny9438:
ok so first i use the jf rc33 update(which will stuck my phone on the screen shows G1)then i pull the battery???then i turn on again to update the radio, right?
[G1 Android Development] got23hops:
is what a joke? the fact that I am not nearly as versed as others in many of the technical aspects that go into developing these ROMs? I'm not really laughing. I'm trying to put these pieces together, just like the other noobs. So you have 101 posts to my 44. who gives a ****? honestly, some people just dont have the aptitude to understand WTF is going on. I know I don't. I have learned the limited knowledge that I have of Android and all the different builds simply by reading this forum day in and day out. Does it make me a noob? Maybe. Does it necessitate you and every other person on this board that is "in the know" to be impatient and snotty to us "noobs"? Absolutely not. Try going over to any other board, on any other subject that maybe you aren't as versed in as the vets that are there. No one likes to be chastised for not knowing as much. Did your teachers do that to you in school? I can't imagine that. This is an online community for people with a common interest. A COMMUNITY with COMMON interests. Maybe some of the vets should step back and follow Haykuro's lead. Be inclusive. Be willing to help. You may know more than me, but that certainly doesn't warrant you talking down to me. That is all.
[G1 Android Development] xyrcncp:
got23hops, I see your frustration, but you gotta understand that others that are following the thread are also frustrated at the repetitive questions for which answers are readily available.

For your question "Does this mean stereo bluetooth if fully functional"

From the first page:

And then throughout the thread.

I didn't make my first post in this board for a while. In that time, I read several threads, and finally took the jump to root my G1. Although I've been following this thread, I haven't taken the plunge yet.
[G1 Android Development] thulinhlun:
Who not reading here? i never ask where is 4.5 build at, fag
[G1 Android Development] got23hops:
agreed and understood. and I think i probably should have been more detailed with my question:

There were earlier reports of the audio from the bluetooth being choppy and what not. Is this still the case? should I invest in a stereo bluetooth headset at this point, or hold out for something more reliable/stable (not that haykuro's work isn't reliable/stable)?
[G1 Android Development] juangil:
Agreed 100% If some one wants to help just respond with your best, if you can't/want to help JUST DO NOT RESPOND thats it..

sometimes you guys make a whole page just about a noob question when you can just ignore it or answer it..
[G1 Android Development] smuvman:
bluetooth working

stereo bluetooth works PERFECTLY on 4.5 (with or without apps to sd) other than camera/video i dont have ANY issues with 4.5 it even plays wmv8 videos
[G1 Android Development] got23hops:
FABULOUS! thanks so mcuh
[G1 Android Development] ben29pickett:
Well said my friend :)
[G1 Android Development] smuvman:
no prob

no prob if u have any questions in the future pm me. i dont post much but i read alot! lol
[G1 Android Development] smuvman:
sorry

im sorry if this is spam remove it but that reply was funny as hell. roflmmfao
[G1 Android Development] themyth69:
I have my sd card partitioned but I never dl'ed the lucid rom or actually ran the process to transfer the apps to sd so what should I do in regards to this. I'm currently on the most recent 4.9, so do I need to flash the lucid rom and run those 2 scripts to get the apps to my sd and then flash one of the magic builds or is there a way to do it from one of the magic builds. Thanks in advance.
[G1 Android Development] he3:
HAHA, dont sweat it. I just mute the groupies and ignore them because this thread would have half as many pages with twice as many answers! (ironically searchable!)
[G1 Android Development] juangil:
Hello, what you need is to flash the rom with app support of your preference (4.5, 4.9) and follow this lead: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=3576489#post3576489

good luck
[G1 Android Development] Ronnymes:
Can someone test for me the wiredheadset, does it work now?

Edit/ not working :(
[G1 Android Development] makethetick:
Not working for me, 4.5 latest build. Music is just played out the external speaker.

EDIT: Too late!
[G1 Android Development] indubitably:
has anyone figured out a fix for the quietness of the volume for calls,notifications, etc? or is it supposed to be fixed in haykuros next build? :)
[G1 Android Development] reuthermonkey:
For that, I've built an FAQ. 95% of the questions asked in this thread are answered simply by going through my FAQ, and haykuro's 1st post. It seems that many people are ignoring both, and choose to be lazy and just ask the same questions over and over again, rather than take the extra 2 minutes to

search

. It's not about aptitude in those cases - it's about effort.

This has nothing to do with postcount. I'm certainly a noob to all of this also - this is the first handset i've really ever played around with the firmware on. I'm learning a LOT in this thread, and I figure many others are too. Hence my FAQ. All I'm doing is linking people to the informative posts that helped me figure out how to flash my phone without bricking it. I assume others could use that info.

If this had anything to do with postcount, it would show that I, a complete newbie, who only flashed a JF build and my old SE w580i before this, can find everything one needs to complete this flash in this thread. In other words, if you can't figure out how to flash your phone by reading this thread, either you're dumber than me (not likely) or just lazier.

As a matter of fact, my parents and teachers DID chastise me when I chose to be lazy and not put any effort into doing even the most basic research. As I said above, this isn't about aptitude - everyone who's willing to flash their phone most likely has the aptitude to do it - otherwise they wouldn't be here. So what sets people apart then is more likely laziness. Read my faq, and read haykuro's very first post. If you're too lazy to do either of those, you're going to get chastised.

I'm in no way bothered by "noob questions". I AM bothered by lazy people who are too lazy to search or read more than a single page in this thread.

That's your choice, and more power to you if you want to do that over and over again.

Frankly, i even support you in your cause, because the people who you're "helping" who are too lazy to do their own research will probably also be the ones who pull the battery on their "locked up" phone while it's flashing and brick their phones. When they play with fire, they might just get burned. Call it technology darwinism.

I'd rather help people to help themselves instead.
[G1 Android Development] borodin1:
So do you guys think that the 5.0 will be as stable as JF's RC builds? I bow down in front of Haykuro but sounds like he is doing more work then JF ever had to do. Granted, we are now 6 month into Android experience while JF only had few weeks with emulator before releasing his first build but still....sounds like a lot of work, is it even possible to port something like that perfectly?
[G1 Android Development] got23hops:
Thanks for the FAQ. That is a great call.

As for laziness, I'm not sure that is solely the cause/problem. In many cases, especially for a person who has never dabble in this sort of stuff, jumping right into this thread and searching might not answer their question. I'm not saying that the answer isn't there, but when you come into something that is so experience driven (like learning about Android is) you don't have the benefit of context. For example, if you are a person who literally just got a G1 and wants to root it, there is no way you could do a search and simply put the pieces together. There are too many nuggets of knowledge that attach themselves to every problem. My questions about the bluetooth (which started this discussion) wasn't out of a lack of knowledge (I knew the bluetooth problem was almost resolved, I was looking more for clarity on the quality of the sound) or laziness (I have been following this thread and androidcommunities thread since the beginning, check post #3). Instead, I was looking for a specific answer to a specific question (which got answered not too long ago).

So I wouldn't jump to call people lazy. People have different questions, different understandings, and most of all different needs. Like I said before, this a community for people with a common interest: to have the best Android experience possible. And on top of that, don't we want to have an inclusive community, not an exclusive one? One that allows people to join without hesitation and ask questions without fear of getting raked over the coals. I dunno, maybe that is the way I approach things. I do think the creation of an FAQ was a stellar idea, and I think maybe even creating a New User Sub-Forum could be the next great step. but like I said, that is just me.
[G1 Android Development] reuthermonkey:
I think so. With as many complaints as there have been about 4.9's stability, and how much 4.5 is lauded because of it, I doubt we'd see an unstable 5.0 release. If 5.0 isn't as stable as we'd like, i'd hope that JF could bring his experience to help haykuro out on this.
[G1 Android Development] borodin1:
Like I've said, I'm waiting on sidelines, resisting the temptation. From what I see, it's getting better by the hour, and fully working A2DP just make me all warm and giggly. I think we should all donate few $$ to Haykuro at once to keep him motivated, $10/each X number of users that follow this thread.... that should make him happy :D
[G1 Android Development] Baldyman1966:
Each of the modding "Stars" here have all learned from others, it is a accumulative process. I would really love if once Haykuro has finished and we have a complete and stable build that he would write an explanation of the process, a dummies guide if you like. That way many more of us would learn the skills and would be able to contribute to hacking the 1.6 (or whatever comes next) build.

I have learned lots of stuff through reading different threads here and look forward to what the future holds.
[G1 Android Development] userfriendlyme:
Wow i would say im a NooB i read the forums and i never post anything but i do follow and try to find what i need to do to get my phone to where some of the more experienced people are. the arrogance and attitudes just truly amazes me. I agree with the previous post i mean either help us or who ever is asking or ignore the question. someone may be more then happy with repeating something you think we can find and they may do it in a way that makes more sense to us NOOBs. why fill up the ever growing forum with more bull****, rude comments, sarcasim and insults. its already hard enough to keep track of the almost 200 page thread and these builds and updates as it is.
[G1 Android Development] reuthermonkey:
The other side of that leaf would be "why fill up the ever growing forum with more bull****, redundant questions, laziness and ignorance. its already hard enough to keep track of the almost 200 page thread and these builds and updates as it is"

just sayin...
[G1 Android Development] userfriendlyme:
becasue its a public forum one and some people obviously rather see what someones asking and maybe the answers posted then to have people who choose to help some and then be downright cocky to others. I respect the developers and programers hard at work but it doesn't give some of you the right to be pricks. the questions some of these people posted over and over again have helped me not ask you a single one.