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[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Tplane37:
Seems like 21725 may have an issue after a period of time. Has anyone that has been running 21725 since the day I posted it been experiencing a degrading issue all of a sudden? Trying to figure out if Yoda1 is experiencing an issue that is based on the ROM or because of somehing he installed that was not completely removed after uninstalling it.

Life has been extremely busy lately. But warning was provided about the warm weather vs. time issue :D

If someone wants a project to work on, here's something I am trying to figure out but haven't had the time to stay focused on. I have attached <Weather Panel 2009> to this post. It is a great FREE weather app (no more of the experation crap). I always ran it on 6.1, it has an accurate Radar portion with it and all that fun stuff, but have yet to figure out how to get it onto the Titanium Today screen. This is a project for someone who can work with CPR files rather well.

I am wanting the larger panes such as the one's in both of the WM7 Project releases. (It turns out that the WM7 Project is just a custom CPR and various other members custom apps). If you were to copy <Titanium_240x320.cpr> and <Titanium_320x240.cpr> from <\Windows> in the WM7 builds, and put them into, say, the 21501 build....you would get some extra panes that are wider, but still look like the 21501 Titanium screen otherwise.

So, take the script that is in these CPR's, use that as a guide. I like the forced oversizing of the Icons in the expanded view as well at the width of the panes. Figure out how to get <Weather Panel 2009> on the Titanium screen without modifying the actual application.

It's not hard, but a little time consuming and may require flashing various ROMs that have different Titanium features to look at the CPR files and how the entries are made. Use what is out there and learn something at the same time. I am just extremely busy right now, so whomever comes up with this will get the credit (as usual :D)...heck, figure it out an start a new thread for it if you want to...but post us a link here if you do.

Thanks, and I am working on things, just much more slowly than in the past.:cool:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/xzdjwdww0wr/WeatherPanel.zip
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] reckert:
I took a quick look - it seems this app is a 'Today' plugin, so I'm not sure if it can be converted titanium easily. I do like it, but the difference (from what I've seen so far, so I could be off), is titanium weather and similar ones have basically save png images of the weather and buttons, and the CPR just refreshes the images.

This app is a full Today plug in DLL, which controls the images itself, I'm guessing with icons embedded in one.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Tplane37:
We've moved!

Relocating thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=4018666

As of right now, it is incomplete. There has been some restructuring of how things are getting done, therefore, a restructure of the threads was needed as well....especially since we are well past the 21198 builds!

Hope to see you all there, just get it bookmarked, because that is where it will be happening, keep an eye on things as we get it all organized. We are doing this becuase of how much time is required for keeping up on all of these new builds as well as trying to Reverse-Develop and then Re-Develop applications that have worked on 6.1 but have no way of currently working on the 6.5 OS. There are also new applications out there that have great potential to them, but are not yet completed. There are a couple of potential new members of the Force Develoments team that I am hoping will come to the party and help keep things going, we are currently re-thinking the 6.5 interface (and it looks like the interface in the last couple builds will be going to the wayside as I am personally testing something new and seeing where we can take it from here). Hope to see everyone on the new thread and in te IRC.

Again, thanks for testing!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kasim.siddique:
Upgrading to WINmo 6.5

hi there, can any 1 tell me how can i upgrade my touch pro & omnia to 6.5

if possible with instructions..

thanks
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mattsm:
Don't know if you are talking about 21198 1.1 but has the same issue.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] busterman:
Thanks Mn-Joe for the info and help! Much appreciated.

Cheers!

Ed
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] DavidinCT:
Played with GPS (Tomtom 6) and got it to lock but, it took 15 min before it could lock on. Anyone have the same problem ? (Had to go for a ride, put tomtom on and drove, about 15 min later it was mapping)

I hope we can get a quicker lock in the next build...
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] lupiniii:
Insufficient Memory

When I use MSIE6 on *21198 Beta 1.1 I keep getting a "Adobe Lite - Insufficient Memory" error. Is there anyway around this? I didn't have anything running at the times I got the error other than MSIE6. Is this something to be expected given the limited amount of memory available?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] lupiniii:
Memory

I notice that after startup with only ActiveSync running my memory is at 63% with 29.66MB In use and 17.26MB Free. However, if I run an app and then close it and then run Oxios Hibernate the memory seems to have gone up either 1 or 2%. After 8 hours or running apps like this my memory was at 85%. I'd hate to think what it would be at if I had never used Oxios Hibernate. Is this common?

I recall seeing this on some builds a little over a year ago, but since DCD's 3.x.x I hadn't noticed it so much.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Tplane37:
21198 Bugs

My current test of 21198 Beta 1.2 is rather interesting. I am sitting with 27.906 MB of Available RAM at boot! (no camera, but it can be installed via CAB if it is desired.) I am working to get the 6.5 Dialer into the build, but it is arguing a bit. I have been working on some reg edits to speed up the GPS lock. I myself, haven't been able to get one at all with Google Maps. But everyone else is saying 10-15 minutes for the first lock after a flash, and some have said that after the first lock, it's only 2-3 seconds thereafter.

This additional RAM may help out with the "Out of Memory" error from IE. I have seen that too. I am hoping to release 21198 Beta 1.2 today, even if I don't get the GPS figured out. This additional RAM (thanks to dan-htc-touch once again) is something all of us Titan users need.

Post up ANY bugs that you have found, even if it's something simple. I want to fix as much as I can with this release...and I may need some help along the way, but we can get this rolling pretty good.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] romeovn:
Very happy to know that we will have a better version soon. In my opinion, I love to see "Minimal Dialer", iContact and Manilla 2D in your release. Also, love the camera
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] jeffgman:
Great Build. Thank You

I have been installing builds for a little while now on my Verizon XV6800. I was only using the DCD builds before this one. The latest build I have been running is DCD 4.1.2. But, I figured, after reading all of these posts, that the 6.5 builds were starting to get pretty stable and reliable. I went ahead and took the plunge last night and installed the 21198 1.1 build. I have to say this is a great build. It is running very well. The only issue is with memory, but we all know about that. And, it appears a newer build might be released today with more memory.

I just wanted to say Thank you, and keep up the good work. I am glad to see people are still spending time with the Titan platform. I don't see myself getting a newer phone anytime soon. One because of money, and two because Verizon just doesn't really have anything that is appealing to me right now.

One thing I did notice, really not a big deal to me, but if you go into MSN Weather and click on Settings, there does not seem to be a way to get out of it. I have to hit the "X" and exit the program completely.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Tplane37:
I won't put Manila2D, TouchFlo, or iContacts in my builds. I have seen conflicts in other builds with touch screen scrolling and random lock ups. It has been narrowed down to these apps (these are good apps, they simply were not designed for 6.5...these conflicts could not have been known when they were developed). Don't know about the "Minimum Dialer," But I intend to put the 6.5 Dialer in, now that it has been located. I am currently trying to replace the dialer that is in my previous builds with the 6.5 dialer. But I am having issues getting the 6.5 to overwrite what is in the SYS. (Basically, I keep getting the old dialer that is in the Beta 1's when I try to cook in the 6.5 dialer).

The programs you requested can be added in via CAB though.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] cmf04:
One thing I noticed in 21198 1.1 was when you press the speaker in the upper right corner nothing happens. In previous build this would allow you to change volume, set mode to off, on, vibrate.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] cmf04:
Is there any way to make the build with a Camera On/Off button? This would load the cab when you want to use it, and unload when you don't. I don't use the camera that often but I think this would be a cool feature.

FYI, I used live search and got a GPS lock in about a minute.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] pplevesque:
just updated to Titan_21198_Beta_1.1 today. This is a great work. Keep going !
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] dan-htc-touch:
camera is just an app, installing it has no affect on memory, if you try to run camera while in high memory mode, it will crash, you can however switch back to low memory mode when you wish to use camera.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Tplane37:
Yes there is. 21198 Beta 1.2 is going to have <nueKernal> in it. the icon will be located in the Setting menu. When you open it up, it allows you to change the PagePool on the fly (don't change it unless you know what you are doing!) as well as choose between "High_Mem" and "Low_Mem." High=No Camera, Low=Camera (~6 MB difference from what I have read). I will post the Camera CAB that DavidinCT provided earlier in the second post so you can add the camera if you want it. It will not be cooked in.

I will test the GPS out using Live Search later. Are you using COM2 or COM4 for the GPS? I have noticed variations depending on the build back in the day when I was on WM6.1.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kosherham51:
Am running 1.1 - comm manager fails to load - Getting message "The file "CommManager" cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. If the problem persists, try reinstalling or restoring this file"
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] jeffgman:
I don't seem to have that problem with that build. Mine is bringing up the volume control correctly.

Jeff
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] jeffgman:
My comm manager loads up okay if I use the right soft key on the Today screen. I just noticed that it does not run when I hit the side comm manager button. It says shortcut not valid. I went into Buttons under the Personal Setting and noticed there is nothing set for the Comm Manager button. In the drop down list to activate something for that button, Comm Manager is not an option.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Tplane37:
Wireless Manager

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3514326&postcount=185

My post for a temp fix. I am working on taking care of this as well for 1.2.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] jeffgman:
Sweet. Thanks for that. Works as expected now.

Jeff
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] cmf04:
Sounds awesome...can't wait. I have always used COM4 on every build for my GPS.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] cmf04:
It is working today...I did do a couple of resets today so that may have fixed it.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] cmf04:
Any chance 21198 1.2 can be built carrier free? Or release one that is carrier free? Running DCD's carrier cab works fine after the initial load, but all of the settings still say Verizon. Of course this would force people loading this version to run DCD in order to get their phone to work.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] fandi1:
NICE!!!!!!! i'm running 1.1 and it's great.... even GPS is working:) LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!:)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] fandi1:
NICE!!!!!!! i'm running 21198-1.1 and it's great.... even GPS is working:) LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] sdsoundguy:
Love this build!!!

Installed 2 nights ago very stable Exchange 2003 sync working, all of my apps run, gps a little slow but I don't use it that often. Looking foward to 1.2 when it is released great job on this build.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Tplane37:
21198 Beta 1.2

Sorry folks. 21198 Beta 1.2 won't be out tonight. Having my fair share of issues that I need to look into. Namely the Dialer, the battery shortcut in the upper bar, editing the Wireless Manager shortcut.

I'll work on it some more tomorrow, I gotta get a break from the computer for a bit, and the lady is requiring some attention this evening. I'll keep y'all posted on anything I come up with.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] jeffgman:
Tplane, hopefully I speak for everybody, or at least most people when I say No Worries! You go take a break. You have done a great job on making this work. Can't wait until you get the issues worked out and release 1.2. From what I can tell, it will be one awesome build.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] benven:
Great work Tplane37, and others working on 6.5! Running 1.1 and everything works well. Exchange 2003 is rock solid. GPS locks in Google maps, on my PPC6800, in <30sec. Running M2D and still get 10 MB on start up. Although memory tanks real quick. But a reset a day keeps the memory hog at bay.:)

One question...I absolutely love the lock screen. Is there a shortcut I could use for a soft/hard key so that I can enable when I want too? If I could use device lock in M2D, that would work. But I haven't figured out how. Thanks in advance.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] friguy33:
Thats one of the things Ive been trying to figure out. Kinda annoying that the only way to make it lock without the password is to click start and click lock. Would like it to lock (without the password) after say 5 minutes.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] shapiror06:
My 2¢

Running 21198 Beta 1.1

I'm very happy with it. Responsive and pretty to look at. I know some of this is redundant to what others have said, but here's the problems I've noticed:

1) Comm Manager button didn't work (used the manual fix and it is currently working). I'd still like to see a little more detailed Comm Manager like what used to be in 6.1.

2) Only about 18.3-18.4MB free at boot. Terrible in comparison to previous versions of 6.1. I've seen mine as high as 29-30MB free at boot.

3) MSN Weather app is screwy. Especially when getting into the settings, it gets all distorted and locks up. Have to close out of the program entirely.

4) Google Maps wont get a GPS lock. Waited about 5min, and had some pretty crappy weather, so I can't make a fair judgment, but it's not as quick as it used to be.

5) Lock is funny. Sometimes it works fine, other times it freezes entire rom when activated.

6) I have the calendar set to open on week view. When I open it, it appears that it starts in week view, but then immediately jumps to agenda view.

7) The vibrate function is that low, slow, annoyingly low powered vibrate that the old WinMo 5.x versions used to have. I know you can fix this with a registry edit, but it would help if you can fix it in future releases.

8) What happened to the honeycomb look? My icons have a white backlighting instead of the transparent-looking honeycomb. Is this something new in the new build? I kinda liked the honeycomb look =(

Everything appears to be working fine. Synced it with outlook and contacts transferred fine. PIM Backup worked fine with my calendar and custom files.

I really appreciate all the work Tplane37. It's a nice look and feel from 6.1 and I'm glad people are still spending their valuable time on the Titan.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] randy.yates:
2 cents

18.3 - 18.4mb at boot is common on 6.5 rom's due to Titanium running. I kn ow T is trying to get that up some with 1.2.

He is working on the Comm Manager button in 1.2 also.

MSN Weather is just an internet link not rom's fault.

Agree that the slide lock does freeze sometimes.

The honeycomb has been removed and replaced with the drop shadow because that is what Microsoft has done so the icons are more finger friendly.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] nimnox:
Arcsoft

Has anyone tried Arcsoft on the 21198 1.1 ? I installed an older version that is known to work with Telus (Canada), and it installs fine. When I go to enter the server settings, both the soft key buttons are greyed out and I can't tap-and-hold on the existing example server to modify it.

Can anyone point me to a version that would work? (For reference, I did have this older version working perfectly on 21165)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] henry.91:
google maps

I can't get a lock on google maps either with this rom. anyone have any luck?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] reckert:
I'm having the same problem here. I'm using verizon and checked the QPST data.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] randy.yates:
I am on Verizon and I am using Arcsoft version 5.070.24 and it works beautifully.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] jeffgman:
I got a lock within a couple of minutes. I haven't tried again, but it worked the first time.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] reckert:
I just tried using the HOLUX GPS Viewer, it definately gets the satellites (Had 12), but not a strong signal, and no lock. I know some GPSes need to be 'seeded' to get an initial lock, especially if they are turned on far from the last place they were locked. I'll try leaving it on on my way home, that will give it an hour or so.

for the record, I'm using 21198 beta 1.1.

Other than this, the build has been steady for the past few days, syncs with exchange with no problem, though WIFI seemed to take a while to lock in at home.

--- Update - I did get a lock last night on the way home, only picked up 3-5 satellites as opposed to 6-8 that I used to get. I did not get a lock on the way to work this morning. (was picking up some satellites, but not a strong signal).
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] henry.91:
google maps

I was able to finally get GPS lock on google. Took 20 mins but now it seems to take about 15 secs. Must have needed that initial lock time?

Seems to work now will keep you posted
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] benven:
Thanks for all of your hard work TPlane!! Really appreciate it. Just some constructive feedback.

After using this on the weekend, I was sold.:) As of today, 1 hard reset and countless soft resets, this is not ready for my everyday use.:( Today was the true test because I am using it for my work functions, mainly phone calls, Outlook stuff like e-mail, calendar, notes, and tasks.

Diabled M2D. Also tried PointUI, Ultimate Launch and HTC Home. At least on my phone, Bell PPC6800, memory leak is hard and fast with heavy usage on any of the above. Go from 10-12 MB down to 2 MB in an hour or so. Am going to try just Titanium on the today screen. Barring that, gonna have to go backwards. :o
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] DavidinCT:
I tried Tomtom 6 twice (if you saw in a few pages back), on the 2nd time attempting it (1st time I could not get a lock), 2nd time it took over 15 mins....

Does anyone have battery charging issues with 21198 1.1 ? I'll take my phone with 10% battery life, drop it on the charger before bed, get up 6-8 hours later and the phone is only charged about 20-30% more (10% going to bed, woke up with the phone at 26%).

Last night dropped the phone on the charger with 46% of battery left, today I woke up and it was at 76%.

Funny thing, if I take the phone and re-plug it in, it will charge up to 100%....(but will take time).

This is a New issue with this build, let it go for a few days before posting (phone is only 6 months old)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] shapiror06:
I'm using GC's version 5.0.31.25 and it's working like a dream.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] yemil:
hi i am lost in the flash..

i want to uprade me phone to the latest best working 6.5?

so many otions on this tread...

any help?

also how to to flash these versions ..no kitchen?..

thanks in advance
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] yemil:
hi i'm lost in these flashes

i want to upgrade to the latest working 6.5 ,allready flashed with WM 6.5 cr2

so many versions...

can any one point me in the right direction?

no kitchen? how to flash? missing sys files... can't follow to fast..

thanks in advance
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Tplane37:
Not for first timer's....

You need to take a good look at Mr. Free's tutorial:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=472805

You also need to be sure you are using the 3.42.50 Radio (GPS Enabled). Any time you flash a radio, you will most likely need to call in for a new A-Key. You should really read up and flash some 6.1 ROMs before diving into 6.5.

WM6.5 is BETA. Therefore, there will be unforeseen issues that will come up along the way. The files used to build these 6.5 ROMs are typically from China or another non-English speaking country. The people developing the WM6.5 ROMs here in the U.S. (and some various other countries) are translating files. Errors do occur along the way, this is why we provide our builds for people to test and report bugs on.

But, if you have not flashed a number of ROMs in the past, and have not encountered a number of typical errors on 6.1 ROMs, and found what programs and plug-ins cause errors/conflicts along the way, then you may not be ready for Beta testing. There are settings that are specific to your carrier and to your region that you have to either know, or have written down. You MUST know how and where to enter these.

I am not trying to be rude or disrespectful, but I also don't want to sit back and let you screw your phone up to a point that you are unable to fix it. There is really no way to take your phone down to the local store with a custom ROM and say "It's broke, fix it." They will most likely turn you away or try to sell you a new stock device ("Sell", not trade in or honor a warranty).
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mattsm:
I do get a lock with google maps but it is not always fast.

Sometimes locks in 5 sec.

Sometimes locks in 2 min.

Have had it not lock at all.(couple of times)

Sometimes uses data connection.

Sometimes does not use data connection.

On my 6.1 rom it locks no matter what in 7-12 sec.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Tplane37:
In all honesty, I am completely lost on this one. I think it has something to do with some of the SYS files. GPS and aGPS worked for me and worked very well on Mr. Free's 21139, 21159, 21169, and my build of 21193. As well as 21189 using Drellisdee's SYS files. I have yet to finish up 21195, at the moment, my only reason for wanting to do 21195 is to check out the battery icon issue and the GPS. I am trying to narrow down which files are controlling those functions. The battery icon issue is nothing more than a shortcut from what I can tell....the shortcut is supposed to go to <:MSSettings> I simply have not located where to edit the shortcuts for the upper bar.

Please post up if you know how to fix the GPS lock issue or the Battery icon not linking to <:MSSettings>.