yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
No, it's not that, the regular built in settings keep overriding the plugin while cooking.

The layout of the start menu has changed a LOT in the current build I'm working on. The automatically scrolling would have to be programmed in by Microsoft. It's not, so there's no way to do it until they do. (There's only so many things you do when cooking a closed sourced environment.)

Noted. Will do.

That's right... I actually had a modified chome... the one that you guys found the "bug" in. That bug was the part that HID the panels. THAT's why I had added in on purpose. lol
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Kernel Jag:
Thank you!!

Thanks mate, it's a lovely teaser for awesome things to come..more than anything, you've inspired a new desire to create custom ROMs! TY!

Can't wait for an update!!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] jtarango1:
still having problems with my MMS....downloaded an arcsoft cab (5.0 i think) and still havent been able to get it to work
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
You installed the Arcsoft cab then set up your MMS settings? (Remember, I'm not the one setting the settings this time, you HAVE to either enter them manually, find and download a cab for the Connection Wizard or find one of the easily available cab files for your particular carrier with all the settings already in it.)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] nonpaq:
Ivan, why does jtarango1 have to find and download a Connection Wizard cab?

Your JustHomev3 rom has a "Connection Setup" application already cooked in under Settings/Connections.This worked perfectly for me for setting up MMS after installing Arcsoft MMS v5.0.31.xx.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I thought I had NOT included the connection setup app, as Windows Mobile 6.5 has a built in app that kicks in automatically (but not after installing the MMS.)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Chongie:
Ivan,

Can you give us a little heads up when the next public release of your latest version is planned?

Thanks Chongie
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] torremitsu:
Everything is all good so far, i do have one question though. Is anyone else using Windows mobile Facebook app? When I run it with this rom the font is unreadable. Its some weird cursive.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I just started summer classes, so aside from working full time, I'm up at 6am in the morning to go to school. My wife is worried about me because I'm barely sleeping 4 hours while working on the phone (when a huge bug hits, I get obsessive about finding a fix instead of just removing the program that causes the bug...) and I've been extremely tired lately. So I'm gonna limit my development time a bit. I don't know when I'm gonna release the next version. Internally, I'm in version 8. I released version 3 to you guys. I tend to make a lot of version, just only release them when I get them to certain points.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Is it an App specific issue or my ROM itself?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] someeh:
I don't blame you, I'm happy with this build. You can't please everybody :D
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
I'm guessing you downloaded the newest Final version of the Facebook App? It was released a few weeks back. I'm using it and the font is normal as usual. It must be a local bug on your phone, or you have an older version. Get the newest version of Facebook HERE

Oh, and Ivan, someone said to keep the Microsoft MyPhone program in the ROM, well, the thing is, is that when you click on the program, it fails to start. It just flashes and then closes for me. But when you download the Microsoft MyPhone CAB from microsoft, it works fine. So, you would probably have to include a newer version of MyPhone if you want to keep it in the ROM. Right now, it is useless, even if MyPhone is in a public beta.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I wasn't referring to the broken one in that early build. :p That was about 5 builds ago. :p But yes, I did create an OEM package out the MyPhone CAB so it SHOULD be working in the next build I release. :p
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] torremitsu:
I did a hard restart and added the app first then went ahead and added all of the plugins and right now everything is fine. Im pretty sure it was something i did on the first run but right now everything is fine and dandy so take your time on the next release ;)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ob_izzy:
o i c okie... dont worry we understand man u need some rest too not good working too hard u might end up killing ur self... well take ur time releasing the next build... like when ever u have the energy... u did great job on this one...just some minor bugs nothing to worry about...plus its smooth and fast..lol
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] jtarango1:
im sorry, could you walk me through the steps to set up my MMS

i've been messing with it and havent been able to get it to work
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
Find a cab for Arcsoft MMS... Install it... After you install it go to Start-Settings-Connections-Connection Setup, fill in your Country and Carrier, click OK and wait... It should ask you to soft reset, if it doesn't, do it anyways.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] jtarango1:
thanks, that did it....i was trying to configure it manually and wasnt even close lol...

then when i tried the arcsoft cab, i wasnt seeing my carrier and i later figured out that even though there was no scroll bar, i could actually scroll down lol, im such a dumbass

thanks again, i really appreciate it
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Chongie:
Take your time to rest and spend some quality time with the misses...

We will be here waiting on our knees for your next release ;-)...

Chongie
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] nonpaq:
I'm actually very pleased with v3. It is definitely a keeper. I can now wait patiently for the next release. Ivan, Take the some time off, rest, make the family happy. I thank you for making my Wing very usable and modern again.

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OK, you rested enough. Where's JustHomev8? Is it uploaded yet? Whats taking you so long? (Just kidding)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] WhatzinyourphonE:
JustHomev8! Nice! lets give the cook some time. im excited myself, our wings are whoopin asses haven 6.5!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] digitalknoll:
45 pages later...

i'm exhausted...

first let me say to Ivan, thank you for your long nights and hard work. this rom is really smooth. i have read each page in this thread and i still havent found a couple of things.

1. can we add to the favorites list? how?

2. is there a weather app?

3. can we re-route the pictures to storage card?

thanks again, this rom is nice

DK
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
oh my god ive been waiting sooooo long for the next released :) im just saying this the rom is insanly good ivan and ill still wait even if i had to wait for months
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
lol, I read through all of the JustStable ROM thread, over 1,000 posts!!! Ok:

Add to the Internet Explorer Favorites list?? All you do is go to that plugin on the home screen and swipe to the left and click Add/Remove. You can create new favorites if you're in Internet Explorer, just go to the menu's and click Add to Favorites.

You can install any weather app you'd like, but there's no weather app pre-installed.

NO! lol. I wish, but no. Microsoft programmed it to go to device memory.

Oh and if you'd like a more complete description of this ROM, then hit up the link here: http://thewingster.com/justhome.aspx

That has lots of info, including a complete list of installed programs. Enjoy!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
3. YES THERE IS A WAY! It's actually really simple... All you have to do is create a folder in the root of your storage card called "pictures" (without the quotes), and place your photos in there. They will show up on titanium now.

For a Titanium weather plugin: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=487090

For other Titanium Plugins and Themes: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=512121
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] torremitsu:
Good lookin' out apreichner, that folder on the root menu trick really worked.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] zapyourit:
Hi Ivan,

Just a quick question: I'm having trouble with my phone running this rom recognizing my SD card. It's 8 gb and it has never properly been seen by the phone. It was very off and on before. Any ideas what might cause this?

Also, I love the update. Alpha 3 is great. Can't wait till later versions come out. I'm excited to see what you do.

Thanks
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] digitalknoll:
thanks Ace,

i'll keep looking, but for the favorites, i meant more like favorits programs. i was wondering if you can add programs to that slider menu e.g. opera mini.

has anyone been able to do this?

thanks again for the help
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
If the phone has never seen the card properly, it may be the card itself is compatible with the phone. Sorry.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Oh ok. Well first, go HERE and then once you install that, go HERE and you should have it installed. If you'd like more WinMo6.5 stuff, then go HERE. I hope it it works, enjoy!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] digitalknoll:
thanks again ace,

i'll dig into this tonight for sure
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kemberdog:
I don't know if anyone else is having this problem but in the morning I check my phone anything you know missed call, text, etc.

and looks and runs fine actually perfectly but then as the day goes on it gets slower and slower then when I get home from school I check my memory and im only running on 5-9mb of ram what's up with that i mean I do have omapclock and omapclockplus installed but that doesn't seem to be working.

what could it be
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
hey man ive been having da same problem too man its slower as days go by
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
What applications have you installed? Also, try considering doing a daily reset of the wing... It helps keep things running smoothly and it only takes a minute or two.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
all i do it txted and MMS n file exploror
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
There must be a memory bug somewhere. But considering that both of the released releases were older builds and I've upgraded the internals substantially since then (just not released it) that memory leak might be gone in the newer builds.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
hope u fixed it Ivan
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Chongie:
Willing to test that ;-)...

Depending which it made available first... JustHomeV? or JustStableV2
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kemberdog:
yeah you think its ready ill be waiting to test it cause this having to restart daily ain't cool.

oh another weird after I posted that comment I relished this rom and its running smoothly but I checked memory and I said it only had 4 mb of ram so I went to task manager and looked at processes instead of applications and something called gwes.exe is using a hell of a lot of ram...

but that's what im seeing I mean im not a expert at this stuff but I hate slow tech so ummm... yeah

go ivan you rule

seacrest out

lol
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Eh, restarting daily isn't bad at all, especially since it's only an Alpha.

But yea, I get 11.56 MB Program memory even with other things running, so something wierd must be going on then. Oh and I also get the gwes.exe using 5.88 MB Ram.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I've been busy with work (full time) and school so I haven't really had much time. (Specially when I have multiple projects going at the same time.) As far as gwes.exe taking a lot of RAM up, that's a Microsoft service so unfortunately, there's nothing we can do about that other than wait for a newer fixed version (I have a newer version in the newest build.)

I hope it works fine on the new build. *crosses fingers*
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Take your time man. I've been busy like crazy too with finals. But only a few more days and summer for me!!

We'll all be here when you do release the next version! Take your time!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
hey Ivan take your time bro school and family is more important and i got finals coming up like in a couple of days and the good thing is summer man hahah ur rom is all good take your time man no rush we will wait :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guardian1969:
Love it... One Question

Hi, Thanks for all the great work I have been using your ROMs for awhile now and are always happy with them.

One quesiton on WM 6.5, and this is very minor, Is there away to adjust the icon placement on the Top bar? I am just wondering because I have overlap issues that I did not have before in your earlier ROMs.

Thanks again.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Really? I haven't gotten that at all. Under what conditions or while running what programs do the icons overlap? I've used it for a while and the top icons have never overlapped yet.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Never seen this. Do you have a screenshot?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
hey i knw how to solve da slow down all u have to do is at least do a soft-reset ur phone 3 times a day and it run smooth like u jst flashed it guys so im havin no problems at all his is da best rom ive use so far on my 2 wings :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guardian1969:
Ivanmmj,

As request there are 2 screen shots. Screen 2 is WM6.1 your JustMe which has the icons in a clean layout. Screen 1 is the new JustHome and basically it seems like the clock is is more to the right. My guess would be because the Speaker Icon is larger.

So if you see where the 247 is beneth the time on both screenshots as well as the little downward arrow on the right hand side of the time is where the placement is different.

Thanks
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Umm, that's not Windows Mobile 6.5 JustHome that you're running, that's the WinMo6.1 or something else. This is the WinMo6.5 JustHome thread.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
There's nothing to fix. I didn't make it that way. It's just the way that WM6.5 is, unfortunately. The programs you're using will have to be updated for the new offsets.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] apreichner:
It is 6.5, he just disabled the the Titanium plugin and enabled an HTC Home plugin...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Kernel Jag:
Little RAM for programs...

This is the only complaint I had with it...otherwise, love the 6.5 look and feel. Thanks!!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guardian1969:
Ok thanks, just thougut I would check while it was still in Alpha =)

Awesome build, only other thing is the memory that others have pointed out.

Thanks again.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
man im still waitin for da nexted released of dis rom im lovin it alot Ivan da best t mobile rom man hands down
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Patience. ;-) I'll be busy this weekend, but I'm thinking that on Tuesday, you might get the new build. (v8 or v9 if I'm finished with v9 by then.) Working on JustStableV8 also allowed me to learn certain things. I'm also working with a new kitchen that I made, some new kernel hacks from JustStableV2 and the ULDR removal.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
hahaha i am patience Ivan hahah well kinda :D ohh okay nice on tuesday then hahah cant wait haha ur roms are awsome bro
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kemberdog:
sorry for sounding picky or annoying I found another bug the battery status on the startbar reads wrong sometimes or when I charge it.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] WhatzinyourphonE:
Tuesday! JustHomev8! yea! Hey ivan or anyone else, do any of you know where i can get that bird wall paper that showed up in those screen shots? i been lookin for it.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
which screenshot man??
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
What battery status? You mean the default windows battery status? It's built into windows. If it's bugged on v3, it's bugged on that build. We'll see when I release the next build if it has the same bug. I'm thinking of porting the newest 21234 MS build into JustHome Build 10, which MIGHT be ready by Tueday.

On a side note: Personal note to myself to remind myself:

"UPX Office"
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
What bird? What wallpaper?

You mean the bird in, not my build, but other builds for other phones in xda?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
Hey Ivan one request man can you please include the MS Office man
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Yea, I want Office too. Oh, well I guess I could get a .cab for it, right? Anyone have a handy free link to a Office cab?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] WhatzinyourphonE:
Im sure you guys have seen it. The wallpaper that had that Emu, Peecock looking bird. From the screen shots that first started appearing of 6.5. Im not sure if its even real or not. Pocketnow did a small article on it. And ivan i have a cab of office mobile, but im not sure how to post it though.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] WhatzinyourphonE:
Heres a link to the screenshots im talking about.

http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/01/29/more-screenshots-of-windows-mobile-65-leak
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
To attach a CAB, just make a new reply (make sure you're in the "Full Reply" mode, not just "Quick Reply") and then click on the paper clip icon in the top row of buttons. Then, upload the file! It should be attached to that post and that's all u gotta do! I'll be waiting for the file, lol, thanks!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] mailliw_17:
please help..

flashed this rom just now now, and checked that bluetooth don't work for me in the receiving end...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Hey guys, I found a tiny little cab that makes our phones automatically turn on the screen lock when we turn on the phone, etc. Here's a link:

http://thewingster.com/autolockscreen.aspx

This little cab unleashes some things that I bet you all didn't know Windows Mobile 6.5 didn't have. Apparently Windows Mobile 6.5 has a default "Slide to Answer" locker, and this cab lets you use it. So, if you'd like to use the default slide to lock things from WinMo 6.5, then go to the link above and install that small cab.

Oh and Ivan, you should possibly consider including it in JustHome, if you'd like. It's only 59KB I think.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] razorbone:
Huh? :eek: But i Believe the recent build of JustHome by Ivan already has the Slide to Unlock feature. I have been using it ever since the last build as well. The lock can slide either left or right for unlocking the phone.. :rolleyes:
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Yeaaaa, but it doesn't automatically lock your phone. Like when you turn on your phone, it doesn't bring up the Screen Lock. When you install that cab, it will automatically lock your phone when you bring it out of standby, which prevents any pocket dialing. Also, it has the incoming call "Slide to Answer" feature in it, which WinMo 6.5 has, but doesn't use unless you install that cab.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] WhatzinyourphonE:
Mmm.... i checked all around the registry to see if i could enable that lock feature manually. But no luck. Maybe one of you guys can help me find it? Im gonna install that cab and see wat it installs and see if i can go from there. But i bet this feature is hidden in the registry.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kemberdog:
ivan if you could, could you please create a cab file with all the extra features of wm 6.5 like the bubble scroll bars, the bubble softkey menus, bubble headers and notifications, startmenu. please please please.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Hmm. Yea, I wouldn't know any registry hacks, but the .cab file is really small and it doesn't take any RAM or anything, so there's really no fear of installing it, from what I've found so far. I think it must enable some hidden registry string like you said. Idk why Microsoft doesn't have an option for this :(
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Ivan's not really a developer, he's a chef, so he probably couldn't do that. Maybe you should just flash WinMo6.5!!! lol. No, really, what's holding you back from getting WinMo 6.5???
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kemberdog:
I already did but I wanted to try out stable, and if I liked it would want the extras from 6.5 to be on it.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] WhatzinyourphonE:
xda-developers wont let me upload that cab file. Perhaps i could email one of you guys the file.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] WhatzinyourphonE:
I found the registry string where that feature is, Ill post the path later. Theres a few things i've noticed that i havent seen before, i havent played with any of them yet. I see what i can find and post some stuff on it. I installed that Lock feature and its starting to get irretating, i think ill unistall it. But others might like it.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] blove:
Bug with alpha

Hi, Ivans!

Thanks for sweet ROM 6.5 JustHomeV3!

But I found some bug on my T-Mobile Wing:

1. Leak Memory and battery (when start, it's 16M, after some hours, it's 8M). I'm not sure that battery is leaked!

2. Can not turn on wifi. I tried turn wifi on but its reading for awhile and no thing done (wifi still off).

3. Sometimes, when locked, have call then it's hang!

Else, its very smooth. especially the lock is not hang as the JustHomeV1.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] WhatzinyourphonE:
Thats strange, on my phone i have 20+mbs of free program memory, when i have like three apps open it goes down to about 15mb. Its not that bad.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
Thanks! I'll create a page for it on my website and post back here once I've got it up.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
That's what my note to myself was about. To UPX the newest version of Office and include it in the ROM.

I don't need the cab. I have the newest version of the WM6.5 Office. Thank you for the offer, though.

As far the bird, it's actually part of a theme. I don't have the theme, unfortunately. Shouldn't be too hard to get, though. Search around for it or find a ROM that has it and disassemble the ROM.

Did you turn on the Beam as I mentioned in the other thread?

I might include this. Looks pretty useful.

No need to tell me what the cab does. I can easily deconstruct the cab and get everything I need off of it.

It's impossible. The things that make the bubble scroll bars, etc, IS wm6.5 You'd have to replace the whole OS and XIP.... which is what making a new ROM does. You can't replace the XIP after it's been cooked into the ROM. (The XIP is like the kernel and all kernel related files.)

The rest of the OS could be theoretically replaced but it would take a MASSIVE cab file that would rewrite most of the ROM you're currently using and would call on the XIP in ways that your current XIP wouldn't understand. All in all, it's impossible. Sorry.

1. Welcome to 6.5 :p It's just so early that most phone manufacturers refuse to touch it. The newest build that will be in JustHome V10 should help a lot in this.

2. Press the wifi on TWICE. It's a memory saving trick. I don't have it load the wifi module 24/7. The first "turn on" turns on the wifi module and the second one actually turns it on.

3. Early alpha build of an early alpha OS. It'll happen for now. :p
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ace10134:
For any of you that are waiting for it, here is...

Microsoft Office Mobile

Direct Download

I'm glad you're gonna include Office on the next ROM, Ivan. Can't wait!