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[G1 Apps and Games] Henchman:
I stand by what I said.

You guys are WHINING over a friggin' dollar charge.

I bet you and gusy like you, spend hours looking for cracked apps to fill your phone with, so you don't have to spend the average measly $1-2 per app.

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And then btich and complain that there are no great apps for the phone.

Seriously. Get a RZR if you'e that cheap.
[G1 Apps and Games] testing567:
Did you even bother to read my post? I bought many paid apps without complaint, including ones that were once free. I just refuse to buy THIS APP because of dishonest business ethics. The dev may have partially made up for this by changing the description of the program to say it's a trial, but it still doesn't change the fact that THIS DEV TRIED TO FOOL US!!! If the description had stated it was a trial version from the beginning, I most likely would have bought it by now just for the sake of having future updates.

If you had a meal at a restaurant and you get charged more than the price on the menu, is it cheap to complain? Now let's say you suck it up and overpay anyway. Would you call me cheap if I refused to go back even if it's just for a $1 soda? It's not cheap to refuse to give them my business because I feel their dishonest even if the product is cheap.
[G1 Apps and Games] Nayyak:
well, I can't do anything to your thinking ability but when you grow up, you might get better.

And now that we know your situation, please do us a favor and have fun here
[G1 Apps and Games] Beast84:
I don't have this app but your attitude deserves a response. You need to chill man! If the author wants to charge for his app, he needs to update with new features & make a paid version. You can't force people into buying something they don't wanna buy when the old one does exactly what they want. Why would you release the exact same app just because you want some money for something that no one is forcing you to develop? Don't get me wrong, I gladly pay for apps but I definately won't support someone who forces you to buy something. Now I don't know if he made any new features so I can't fight about that but don't force people to buy something. If they want the new features, they'll shell out the money. If not, at least the old one does what you want it to do & you build a following for future apps. So on that note...

Pass that no trial one on to the rest of us... I'll gladly take it now!
[G1 Apps and Games] tehseano:
So, anyone else have the problem with the paid version, of disabling taskbar notifications and it not working? I have it checked but it still notifies me, which is horibly annoying. Anyone?
[G1 Apps and Games] bommel0815:
you think you have a right to use someone elses work, just because he used to grant you a license to do so free of charge. thats simply not true.

the app is owned by the dev, no matter if he used to charge for it or not.

he did't fool anybody. you don't have to use the damn app if you don't want to buy it.

YOU have no god given right to treat freeware as your own property, and you can't just copy iy. read the friggin license agreement...
[G1 Apps and Games] MacFloid:
You can play fair soccer or unfair soccer, read the "Power Manager Trial" comments at the Market and you know what's up. :)

Of course it is "legal" what the dev did, but I dont agree with such ones and don't support it as I dont support soccer teams playing unfair, too.

The dev didn't handle fair and because of that it is not worth for me to pay anything to him.

Power Mangager V1.42 is no-pay and no-trial programmed, so I don't care what further update agreements are and I even didn't copy any app-files. I only did not update and I will not delete it by myself. :)

Do you want to try to tell us, that we HAVE TO do the update now?
[G1 Apps and Games] claborn:
yeah i would have paid for the app too, price is of no issue.

but when you have a product out especially one that was free, and then release an update and mention nowhere in the description that it'll change your current app into a 3 day trial, that def is bad business practice. users wont discover this until the update installs, thereby forcing them to buy the app if they want to continue to use it. then you have problems with non US users not even able to do that.

like i said i would have bought the app but the way he went about it was foul play, as a business person myself i dont support such behavior. on a lighter note,
[G1 Apps and Games] claborn:
yeah i would have paid for the app too, price is of no issue.

but when you have a product out especially one that was free, and then release an update and mention nowhere in the description that it'll change your current app into a 3 day trial, that def is bad business practice. users wont discover this until the update installs, thereby forcing them to buy the app if they want to continue to use it. then you have problems with non US users not even able to do that.

like i said i would have bought the app but the way he went about it was foul play, as a business person myself i dont support such behavio
[G1 Apps and Games] SpyderMS:
I'm not blindly lashing out. I was happy with the free version, and don't mind not getting advanced features with updates. Its my choice whether I want to pay for those features/updates. I would agree with you if I was asking for the 'new' Task Manager, but I'm not.

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FREE POWER MANAGER AVAILABLE HERE

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The Dev has the completely free, non-trial version right on his website, so I can give it to everyone, and everyone is happy. Too bad I can't say the same for Task Manager, but no matter...

http://nettogo.net/powermanager/
[G1 Apps and Games] bommel0815:
what I am getting at is just that the dev can do with his app whatever he wants. he allowed to use it free of charge and changed that because he needs the money. fine.

I can only repeat what I already said: he only granted a license to use the software, not any rights to it. and why aren't you glad you could use it while it was free?

It is astonishing that you think you have a right to use it ad infinitum. thats simply not the case. you only have that right if the owner of the software grants it to you.
[G1 Apps and Games] rsfaze:
I seen this post, and fixed the whole issue by uninstalling the app. If you really wanna show the dev how wrong he is, don't use it.
[G1 Apps and Games] MontAlbert:
i think that's a bit extreme- i think he just made an error in judgement. Why didn't the mybackup people get slammed like this. He has now made the prev. version available on his website. I will buy this app once google lets me.

I would like to see a few changes to it- maybe a better GUI would be a good start., ability to add shortcuts to the desktop....eg. bluetooth toggle onto desktop (I have toggle bluetooth app but this would require less apps if he did this).
[G1 Apps and Games] AGx-07_162:
Agreed

I agree, it is shameful. You dont have to like it but if he wants to charge for his work then thats his choice. However, I do agree that it was a little deceptive of him to have done it in the way he did but at the same time I dont think its fair of us to NOT update just because we dont want to pay. I personally just paid for it. I like it and I support his work. Thats how it should be.
[G1 Apps and Games] n8izzle:
I dont think that he did wrong at all.. he began to charge for his application and didnt leave a notification that it was going to be a trial besides the icon that says "trial" on it... Ok maybe that was kind of deceptive but he made up for it on the welcome screen.. he says why he put it as a trial and for how long.. but then he also said; "You can still get the free version from my website if you mistakenly updated (http://nettogo.net/powermanager), but if you really like the app i would appreciate you buying it." so with that said he didnt really intentionally try and screw us all over... but if you didnt read the welcome note then i would understand where you think this dev may have "screwed you over"...
[G1 Apps and Games] schizox:
i agree at some point with everyone here however lets recap

1. the dev owns his work, he jsut lets us use it

2. the dev can decide to make a free app pay

3. the dev DID do it the wrong way

that mainly recaps all, the dev owns the app, however he released the exact same app as pay

what have 99% of devs done.... they release the exact same free app and jsut write, this is the "donate" ver, free ver will remain free, "donate" ver will be up for those that want to help (or, "donate" ver will be the one updated and the free will remain as is) the most important thing is that they let us know

imo even though the dev has all the right 100% to change a free app to a trial app, its about "respect" at some level....

anyway, i dropped powermanager for useful switchers months ago... and the useful switchers dev did a "donate" ver... meaning once i get paid apps (since im not in the US) im going to buy all the donate apps i can, since im all for the dev... since i have been in their shoes and i know how hard it is...

everyoen jsut be happy, dev did what he had to to to get food on his table, jsut think of it that way... he/she's gotta feed the kids :P
[G1 Apps and Games] killacoz53:
i bet money that half the ppl that ramble on about how they would have bought it if the dev wasnt "deceptive" about it would not be updating at all...
[G1 Apps and Games] bommel0815:
I didn't realize that the dev hasn't put an info regarding the new policy in the app description. Is that true? If so, it would have been fair to do so.

Other than that, I still stand by what I said. The dev owns the app and he can decide how you have to use it, if you want to use it.

I myself toyed around with it and i prefer locale for managing things, but it is a good app and a lot of thought went into it for sure.
[G1 Apps and Games] momentarylapseofreason:
Who the hell changed my subject and under what rules? I am changing it back. If the mods want to make someone aware of a problem, don't do it under MY name.
[G1 Apps and Games] KyleK29:
Take this for what it is worth, it was mentioned in another thread (regarding the sudden change to make this a paid app) that this app may infact drain battery if in "Monitor" mode. I have since turned off the monitor function and I can say that I have seen a significant increase in battery life.

Granted, previous versions didn't seem to drain my battery. But from what I can tell, this is the culprit. I used to be able to last 24+ hrs with my lite usage of the phone, with the monitor enabled, I was barely making it through the day (maybe 18hrs). Now I'm back to over 24hrs. I've always had the profiles configured for: Wifi=off, Bluetooth=off, GPS=off, Locations=on, screen=18%. They remain that way, so no other setting changes I've done have changed my battery life.
[G1 Apps and Games] mustang_3kgt:
Please grow up and understand what all this people are trying to say. It's not the cost of the app, it's the way it was done. I myself have volunteered to pay for free apps that are now paid apps to help the dev to create new ones as I know that they make a huge effort.

Seriously, stop been retarded and read the posts at least 5 times to see if you understand them. :)
[G1 Apps and Games] tonloc69:
Something else to understand also. The Dev has posted the prior version for free on his Dev site http://nettogo.net/powermanager and if you would like to use the free version you can download the free version from his web site. Now...was it always like this I do not know. But I do know it is like this now and people have the option to purchase the $.99 app or not. The upgrades will be free he says and forever as long as you buy the app. If not...then use the free version. Give the guy some slack, the market is new...the ability to charge is new...it is a learning process as to how should someone manage a situation like this or not. If you took your time and developed an app in the market wouldn't you want to charge $.99 and make some money for your time?? I know I would but I don't have the time to create an app right now. So for the moment I will pay the $.99 for the app. After all....you probably spend more on your freggin coffee! :eek:
[G1 Apps and Games] bhang:
this is becoming a trick lots of devs are trying

i dunno but astro told me it was gonna die in a few days (this may have been dated from the start) but most of the apps with good ratings and lots of D/Ls will probably go pay even if its just a token (.99, maybe more for stuff like full UI replacements, kinda like palm os had, and apps that took tons of time to develop)I just dont want to see DEVS pricing apps by popularity instead of amount of work involved for them, I also hope that most apps stay in the 1-5$ us range these are mostly apps that can be done on our home PCs, but now on the move, higher prices will just promote piracy.

bhang
[G1 Apps and Games] Mysticales:
Power manager, no more free one?

Hey, I thought I rem the dev saying something about having a free version posted on the website, however I no longer can find that one. I searched the forums and found the post that linked to it, but seems to be redirected now and gone? I miss something?
[G1 Apps and Games] Mast3rmatt:
I PM you with it
[G1 Apps and Games] Mysticales:
Thanks. =) Maybe I should host some of these files... Keep them backed up. Had this app since day 1. Got the G1 basically when it 1st came out lol. Got too many apps on it now. >.< lol.
[G1 Apps and Games] Mysticales:
Lil odd.. tried to install it, came up as "Android system" and that it would replace currently installed data files. Which I did.. not thinking too much, but did I just screw something up by installing that?
[G1 Apps and Games] grokdesigns:
That doesn't sound right...you probably shouldn't accept random files from strangers on the internet.

Contact the developer, I'm sure he'll tell you whether or not a free version is available.
[G1 Apps and Games] Mysticales:
Well I do rem the dev did orig put a free version up for the site. Tho I just wanna know now what it was installing. I mean phone is still working fine.

I dont think it was a bad app or so. But what does the "Android System" control anyways cause on the app manager just says 0kb so Not even sure what its about.
[G1 Apps and Games] bladepbc:
kinda sketchy...lol...im running jf1.51 and my power manager no longer works i can send u the apk if u like...
[G1 Apps and Games] Mysticales:
Yea I was given one that DOES work. YEAAA! =D Current too I believe according to atrack. Uploaded it to my website in a /g1 section of the url. *Nudge*

Gonna upload more common stuff as I find it, cause Im a nut about backing up all my stuff, hate losing stuff.
[G1 Apps and Games] daw00t:
Notice: Power Manager Full ($0.99) has ads

I was troubleshooting why my phone suddenly locked up tonight, and looked at the logs on the phone -- I stumbled across something called AdMob and looked deeper:

I/AdMob SDK( 5707): Requesting fresh ads every 30 seconds.

I pulled the package off my phone and inspected it on my linux laptop; sure enough, the Power Manager Full application pulls advertisements, grabs your GPS location, etc every 30 seconds. Waking the phone up every 30 seconds to grab advertisements on a power manager application, not to mention one that you purchased is rather annoying.

Full details: http://warewolf.livejournal.com/573055.html
[G1 Apps and Games] dwang:
are you sure its power manager? I don't remember it displaying ads anywhere. Maybe its some other app.
[G1 Apps and Games] daw00t:
Positive. I pulled the package off my phone and looked at it. Plus, the developer has advertisements in the free version. It looks like the dev left the Ads in, but simply hid them.
[G1 Apps and Games] dwang:
Ok thats pretty weak. I mean power manager is suppose to save you battery life, but if its pulling ads from the internet every 30 secs, that would drain battery life.
[G1 Apps and Games] ryan75:
Thanks for the info daw00t! I really don't need this anymore, since the only reason I used it was easy access to the toggles. Widgets are better and save me a couple of clicks.

I'm not going to sweat the 99 cents, but I wonder if there is any way to remove it from 'my downloads' in the market. I'm tired of seeing it showing up as "purchased" in my list.

This dev has been sketchy for a while. IIRC, I seem to remember them "tricking" free users into upgrading to a paid application which expired three days later. I may be wrong.
[G1 Apps and Games] Mysticales:
Wow can anyone else confirm this info too? Spyware on a cell phone = BAD BAD BAD.. I dont need that type of thing. We should contact the dev. Cause this would be really wrong of him.

Edit: Just send the dev a email about this. Hoping he will respond as I love the app. But this would make me stop using it cold. Which alternatives are there worth it anyways?
[G1 Apps and Games] Mysticales:
Update, just got word back from David. The Dev. He said admob he uses in countries where people cannot purchase the app on the market. He also says the current intergration has a few issues which he will be fixing in the next couple days.

I also asked if he could make the trial one be free but ad supported. But the pro one is totally ad free. So waiting on a response there. =) Anyways just fyi.
[G1 Apps and Games] Mysticales:
Update again, Dev said for me to keep you all in the loop on XDA. The Pro version ad stuff was for other countries as I said, however he did say there was some issues with it affecting other users, so which is why in a couple days it will be fixed.

Also he says it was not a hidden thing with the ads. In the user agreement and his website it talks about this. Also that he makes one build for everything. So just give it a few days and see what happens. =)
[G1 Apps and Games] daw00t:
If that's the case, then I'm going to proceed with my refund request through google checkout.

One build for everything is pretty much the worse case scenario you can go. Here's the problem:

The admob software is still part of his product, still "wakes up" the phone every 30 seconds to download advertisements, still uploads my GPS coordinates to admob, and is still an unwelcome addition to a product that I purchased.

Unless he removes, or disables entirely the admob portion of his product, I will not be using it again, and will not use any of his products in the future.

I tried contacting the dev through google checkout, and have yet to receive a response. Edit: whups, he did reply. Same info as posted above
[Touch HD General] AndyCr15:
I'm testing quite a few different ROM's, most things sync making it nice and easy, but I have to keep setting up my e-mail accounts. Is there a way to export them? Is there a particular file I can back up? Can some kind of script be made to put them all back in?

Thanks.
[Touch HD General] fwt:
Autoinstall EMail-Settings

Hi,

what I do is ... SASHIMI => http://www.winmo-experts.com/index.php

There are also some Threads here at XDA.

I've created xml's for my GMail and O2-Mail (both with IMAP4) Accounts.

Works perfekt! :D

Hope this helps

regards

fwt
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
Would also like this!
[Touch HD General] AndyCr15:
As I mentioned in my other thread, I'm playing with different ROMs at the moment. I use the built in TF3D music player and I am wondering if there is a way to backup playlists so when I change roms, I don't have to keep making my playlists?

Thanks.
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
I use SPB Backup and it automatically backs up my playlist for me. Saves me loads of time as I flash bascially everyday:p
[Touch HD General] AndyCr15:
As this is still an issue, I'm bumping it.

I had a look at SPB Backup, but I didn't like the look of it, I couldn't see how to just backup the playlist?

Surely when you make a playlist it is stored somewhere? I see application data/HTC/AudioManager_Eng there is a playlist folder, but it remains empty...
[Touch HD General] custardo01:
I think if you have playlists created with .asx files using WMP for some reason the HTC Audio manager will use these instead of it's own .txt file playlists. Not sure of a way round this without further dabbling:) Maybe you can just add .asx to the .txt playlists (if you have them) and use it that way, then back those up? Manual back up I mean to storage card from device wich is the only back up I ever use.
[Touch HD General] AndyCr15:
No, I don't even have the txt version I don't think. If someone can post just a clip of one please, I can probably edit it to suit me :)
[Touch HD General] custardo01:
Here is an example of one of mine which you can open in a text editor. My usual ritual after flashing is to copy my playlist folder to the Application data/HTC/Audio manager folder. However, since I have been using Media Player with WM6.5 I notice that HTC Audio Manager chooses those .asx playlists instead. You could also create a one song playlist with HTC Audio Manager, locate and open the file and use that as a template in a text editor maybe.
[Touch HD General] AndyCr15:
Ok, so I made my own with 4 tracks in it. I tried with no file extension, with .asx and with .txt and none work. Strangly, I see a playlist called 'Playlist' in HTC Audio manager, but when I go into it's empty. I add some tracks, they don't appear in the file when I bring it back off the device, it still has the 4 I put in myself.

Any ideas?
[Touch HD General] custardo01:
My own experience is that HTC have chosen not to make this easy. Sometimes I have copied the playlists into the Application Data Folder and I haven't been able to use them for sometimes more than a day. I think soft resetting and pulling the storage card in and out a lot helps. It's not quick and simple. Might be something else though.
[General Questions and Answers] onesip:
I am thinking about buying a MDA, it's only 50 dollar. Can it be upgrade to WM6.1? Is it even worthy to upgrade to 6.1? The only difference I see is the chat style text messaging
[Touch HD General] dazza9075:
Ok So whats this new level of idiocy, are we now trully saying that one can not ask a question that involkes opinions and subjective answers, the threads could contain factual information and objective opinions but i guess we shall never know beacuse they get closed...

I am actually supprised its got this low, if you think about it almost any question answered will be subjected to an opinional bias WE ARE HUMANS

So the two "Which ROM?" questions threads get closed i think we are all big enough to realise that what one person feels is good may not be to another but we all read reviews in mags, we all read reviews on the internet and they suffer the same problems with bias you cant remove that fact, you read the responces and judge for your self, blimey what is going on here!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=489979&page=2

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=490053
[Touch HD General] Matterhorn:
There are a ton of new ROMs out there now and it is impossible to get a "feel" of the way they perform unless you spend all of your time flashing ROMs. Constructive discussion of ROMs and their strong and weak points shouldn't be cause for public shame.
[Touch HD General] aabye:
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or...

A: "Dutty's ROMs are the best!"

B: "F*** off, David's the best."

C: "You two know f*** all about ROMs; Neo's the best!"

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