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[Touch HD General] ardsar:
These 2 fixes have nothing to do with the famous 2 ring delay. The response time improvement was to solve the latency when using the keyboard - ie sometimes it would appear to freeze. The second fix is for the slider only.

Suggest you guys do a bit of searching as there are a lot of threads relating to this famous 2 ring delay with wm6. The first incomming call always seems to take a bit longer after the phone has been switched off or soft reset - did you try and see what the delay is several times? Appologies that using the wm6 dialer did not work for you - it certainly does for me and many others.
[Touch HD General] bazzxdahtc:
Just trying to help...

I run stock ROM(1.14.404.3(V2227)NLD)+regular updates/patches and this works on my device, you doubt my experiences?

Have you actually tried these yourself? Or are you just reasoning from your cooked ROM...

Suggest you stay nice to everyone.
[Touch HD General] ardsar:
No i dont doubt your experience apart from the fact that htc fixes are not specific to the 2 ring delay. It also has nothing to do with the fact im using non stock rom .i applied these tweeks to the standard rom before flashing my device. if you do a search for 2 ring deLay, you will see that this is a common problem. Also other sites such as www.pocketshield.netserver01.com/readme.aspx make reference to this exact problem

I'm only tryin to help, and ive spent a lot of my time investigating this issue.
[Touch HD General] markpud:
Just a quick thought.. do you have an MP3 assigned as ringtone? I recently added an MP3 ringtone and suddenly it took a lot longer before the phone started ringing..

Changed it back to one of the standard tones and it was much faster.
[Touch HD General] Dark Knight:
I agree about the MP3 issue.

I often see my Touch HD waking up to handle the call 1-2 seconds before I hear the ringtone. As soon as the dialler skin is up (or S2U2 application) then I am able to answer the call without the MP3 ring kicking in.
[Touch HD General] HappyNoel:
Before I use S2U2, Pocketshiel and Inesoft programs in the same time..it takes at least 4 seconds to starts ring. but now only S2U2 its only 1 sec.

:)
[Touch HD General] leermoon:
Guys I'm using 1.19.831 stock ROM, applied ONLY Slider hotfix from HTC, ringing with mp3 file (around 900kb size) and do these tweaks in HDtweak and Advanced Config 3.3:

Incoming ring delay = no;

Battery icon in phone menu = no;

Filesystem cache: enabled

Filesystem cache size: 8 mb;

File system filter chace: 131072 sectors;

Glyph cahce: 64 kb;

The delay is around 1.5 ring BEFORE it start ringing. 1 ring before display answer slider. I'm not 100% sure if all of above settings have any connection with the problem, but with these one --> a whole 1 ring delay is gone away...:)
[Touch HD General] kkchan:
Hi,

I used to apply this settings, but it caused unable to access certain folder. It just freeze. Once I change back to original, then the folder is accessible without problem. Any ideas?

Sorry, I know it has nothing to do with 2 ring delay.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DupinBJK:
Welcome to the EzInput 2.0 Keyboard Suite project.

Ok, the time has come.

HTC has rushed to prepare a pre-release of its EzInput 2.0 technology just in time for the MWC in Barcelona, and we have it here ready for our tweaks, hacks and workarounds.

These are the new layouts - only Phone Keypad and Full Qwerty, this time.

The first WVGA Beta cabs are ready for download, but beware,

this is just for experienced users only

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As you'll see, the known issues are a bit annoying, especially if compared to what we're accustomed to with the 1.5 release.

But that said, the huge use of .xml configuration files will probably mean a quite easily customizable experience for all the known form factors.

Update:

Updated files have come out, with a few improvements that need to be checked out. Time for Beta 2. :)

Take a look !

Downloads - WWE only

WVGA

FullKdb - Phones with Full Keyboard (Nokbd customization will come later, but the cab will work even on NoKbd phones)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DupinBJK:
HTC EzInput 2.0 Keyboard Suites

Known Issues

Availability of Keypad Layout.

The Keypad layout is available and working, but not selectable using the settings or the old Input Panel.

To select it, you have to use the new SipMenu, included in cab B1.1 and above.

Only the newer phones from HTC can use the SipMenu (Elfin, Diamond, Raphael, Opal, Jade, Blackstone, Iolite).

The layout can be forced - in Portrait mode - using the registry.

Languages Availability and Selection.

Not all languages are available on the pre-release rom.

The Beta2 cab includes English, German, French, Italian and Spanish.

There's no way to select them using the standard Input Panel.

To select it, you have to use the new SipMenu, included in cab B1.1 and above.

Only the newer phones from HTC can use the SipMenu (Elfin, Diamond, Raphael, Opal, Jade, Blackstone, Iolite).

The old Language Packs made for V1.5 are *NOT* compatible with V2.0.

The main language can be forced through a registry setting.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DupinBJK:
HTC EzInput 2.0 Keyboard Suites

Changelog

21-Feb-09: Beta2

Second release.

New Sources.

26-Feb-09: Beta1.4

Replaced HTCSipSrvc.dll.

25-Feb-09: Beta1.3

Solved the space issue.

Removed an extra Tegic setting (coming from V1.5 customizations) that was causing it.

23-Feb-09: Beta1.2

Added tick.wav sound file.

23-Feb-09: Beta1.1

Added the new SipMenu.

Updated the PQSym_Bg_Inv.png file.

21-Feb-09: Beta1

First release.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DupinBJK:
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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] conflipper:
9 placeholders? haha let me know if you need anything.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DupinBJK:
Well, it's just to avoid keeping buzzing around Noonski to ask for a new slot every once in a while... :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] herg62123:
i am ready. lets git-r-done.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] GSLEON3:
What a tease. LOL
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] conflipper:
Looks great. Installed on Touch Pro and everything worked fine.

In Landscape mode the right hand side is cut off. but not a big deal. Thank you a lot of this, your hard work and for sharing.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] totalcmdext:
Do you mean that WVGA version works in VGA screen without problem
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] conflipper:
It will work, just the right side of the keyboard is cut off while in landscape mode. but when that is the case you have the keyboard slide out anyways.

On Diamond or in Portrait It works fine. no cut off at all.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CRACING:
Hello,

Great work DupinBJK. Keep it up......

I was more happy, if I was having vga or wvga devices. Anyway cannot wait for qvga.:)

Thanks and Regrads
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rjmjr69:
AWESOME I have so been waiting for an update. "As you know DB lol Thanks" SOrry for being impatient hope all works well soon. I know COn is helping it will be done soon and will work flawlessly

thanks again
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DupinBJK:
Well, everything seems a bit too much, I have a few issues with the landscape mode on the emulator... when I type on the leftmost or rightmost keys nothing happens.

Isn't it the same for you ?

And anyway, for the form factor: take a look at the xml files - the coordinates and the key codes are no longer inside the .dll, but in an editable file !!

This means that (although it might not be so fully customizable at this stage) we could begin working on a VGA version right now ! :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DupinBJK:
In Portrait, are you able to bring the Keypad up ? (I guess nobody has still read the Known Issues ;))...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DupinBJK:
I think that editing the xml configuration files should be enough... chars are mapped there.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Krzysiec:
But where to find those xml files ? ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] faw+:
Hmmmm i must admitt that if you have wrote this down in chinese, the chances of me understanding this would have been not more than now :o
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] avimak:
If it will be in WVGA for my blackstone - i'll give it a try... ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] n3tfusion:
Thanks for the files and your quick answer :)

But don't you have any clue for my missing phone keyboard issue ? :confused:

It will be so great to have that layout :o
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DupinBJK:
They are in the cab, which copies them under \Windows. Do you have a cab editor ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DupinBJK:
You're talking about the picture in the first post, right ?

To get it, you have to enable it on the new SipMenu. But remember that the new Sipmenu isn't as gorgeus as the older one found on the HD, rather, it looks like a plain older menu. But on that, you should find the option for the Keypad....
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DupinBJK:
Mate, you have the download link on the first page for that ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Krzysiec:
Ok thnx ... i`ll look for them ;) Yes i have ...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DupinBJK:
and you write mobile-review on your signature... :D

Well, first of all you should get a regeditor for your phone. PHM regedit should do the trick.

Then, you should go to the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9 key and edit the "DefaultLanguage" value to 0x107 (Hex).

That way, you should "force" the setting.

But I'd like to know if you can set everything via the SipMenu, first... ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] faw+:
Well yes MOBILE review not pocket pc review lol, and at this point I have to admitt (again) that this is something too big for me, so I will take your advice you mentioned in the first post, and leave this to the experts :D

I'll just wait for a solid stable cab for dummies like me ;)

Thx anyway.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] n3tfusion:
Yeah i talk about the first picture :)

But i think i have this new SipMenu, but when i clic on "Clavier du téléphone" ( french equivalent for Phone Keyboard .. ), it's the classical win mobile keyboard :(

I have uploaded 2 pictures, the first one showing the menu and the Touch Input and the second one showing the menu and the classical keyword ( in background, but you see .. )

In fact, when i choose "Clavier du téléphone", my device automaticaly select the classic keyboard..

Am I missing something ?

edit : when i write a sms, the SIPmenu is more gorgeus, so this is not the same SIP ? But that doesn't work in any SIPmenu , so..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] PMDColeslaw:
how do you enable the new sip? Also is there going to be a VGA version as the WVGA makes the landscape not work on my diamond.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DupinBJK:
The one you see is not the new sip menu, which you can see in the attachment.

So, the "Clavier du téléphone" that you see is the older EzInput 1.5 keyboard which ships with your phone. Have you tried the latest available cab ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DupinBJK:
There's still no automatic sip changer, so you have to select it manually.

There are already several VGA cabs around, you can find them in the previous posts. As soon as we'll get enough poll results, I'll post an updated version on the first page.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] PMDColeslaw:
Ok I'll search for the VGA version. I'm still not sure how to manually select a different SIP menu though. I still have the original SIP from Diamond
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] wanwinglo:
Using the new cab v1.3 and am getting the same problem as post #193.

Using "Touch of HD" rom v3.3, clean device and installed only the cab after a hard reset if that's any help.

Thanks for the hard work!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DupinBJK:
The same settings work, on VGA. I'll try to check what might be happening.

Thanks !
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] n3tfusion:
I've got the cab 1.2, but it's seem to be an hd issue if i'm not the only one to have this keyboard missing ?

I can try the cab 1.3, we will see, maybe with luck .. :D

Thank for your help DupinBJK !
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] PMDColeslaw:
Ok I read all 20 pages:eek: and I found a few VGA cabs. Does anyone know which VGA cab works best with the Diamond so far?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kenia1234:
Need for help!!!

Hi all,

i've just installed the last version of this keyboard with the space issue fixed and now it works really well...but...

I can select only full qwerty keyboard...how can I add or select the traditional phone keypad???????

I can't found it!!!

I've an Italian rom, version 1.14.x.xx

Please help meeeeeeee!!

A prompt reply would be really appreciated!!

Thanks! :):)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DupinBJK:
If you can wait a little more, I can send you a cab for a special test... :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] n3tfusion:
With pleasure :)

I suppose i have nothing to fear about this cab ? :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Daydoo:
Uninstall to original SIP?

I installed the latest BJK_HTC_EzInput2_WVGA_NoKbd_0409-B1_3.cab

and now I want to turn back to the original SIP.

Uninstall by SK Tools worked well, but after soft reset the original SPI does not appears.

None of the HTC shiped SIP came up.

How can I get back the original SIP without hard reset???

For my gues is, I have to delete some files in the windows folder, so that after a soft reset they were out of the ROM working. But I think I'am wrong!?

Daydoo
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] n3tfusion:
See there :

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3374127&postcount=136
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DupinBJK:
No need to worry, in France you have 1-year warranties... :D

Check your PM in a couple of mins...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] drunkbastard:
Issue with Fuze

I've tried this on my Fuze, and the issue people have mentioned with the HW keyboard (no period, symbols instead of numbers w/ Fn key) appeared, but no issues with the SIP itself - all on-screen keys worked as they should in both portrait and landscape (unlike what some people have reported). I tried installing the Fuze keyboard fix CAB thinking that it may be a quick fix, and after a soft reset the period and numbers worked as they should... for about ten keystrokes, then the old issue resurfaced. I don't know if this helps solve the problem, but hope it gives some insight.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] PMDColeslaw:
Hey, DupinBJK, I think I may know why you were having the landscape errors with JMZ's cab when he wasnt. I installed his cab and noticed that at first the landscape was still malfunctioning, but I then realized that I always turn my phone to the right for landscape, which is really reverse landscape, so I tuned it to the left and the landscape was working fine. Not sure I explained that well enough but hope it helps.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Daydoo:
Yeahhh! that's it, thank you very much n3tfusion, it worked well.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] n3tfusion:
It's good to know, i didn't test it yet :D

You can thanks DupinBJK for the links :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] whatsleft4her:
is anyone working on making this qvga? been waiting to see but havent seen anything yet.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DupinBJK:
This issue is related to the hardware mappings in the Rhodium*.txt file. Keycodes are not always consistent, and probably the map use keycodes which are not good for your keyboard.

To solve this one, you should find your latest working eT9.Raphael.wwe.kmap.txt, rename it to eT9.Rhodium.wwe.kmap.txt and replace the one in your windows folder. At least, that's how it worked under EzInput 1.5.

Maybe it's the same thing that The Fuze fix does, but I don't know that fix at all...

"Some people" ? You are talking about me... :D

But I guess it's a timing issue, because I mainly use the Emulator, for VGA...

Try to replace the mapping file, as above, and let me know...

Thanks !
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DupinBJK:
Haven't I told you ? Since QVGA is not going to use the new SipMenu, it would not be possible to select layout or languages (unless of course you're using a M2D Elfin, Opal or Jade). So, first of all, we'll have to solve other issues...

You'll have to be patient...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DupinBJK:
:confused: reverse landscape ? :confused:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] PMDColeslaw:
Yeah I know it sounds stupid but I first noticed it with the Changescreen app. It allows you to rotate the phone and it will flash the phone's orientation on the screen as you rotate it. (ie: Portrait, Landscape, Inverted Portarait, Reverse or Inverted Landscape) The inverted Portrait is when the phone is upside down. Landscape is the volume buttons are facing downward on the phone, and reverse Landscape is when the Volume buttons are facing Upward.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DupinBJK:
Ah, now I understand... :)

Good hint, but I think that the issue is not related to your experience. Indeed, it happens on the emulator, too, where even HTC develops its apps.

I'm almost sure that they'll fix it in a later build...

Thanks !
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] PMDColeslaw:
Oh ok. No problem!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] whatsleft4her:
sip menu? you mean what helps you switch them from the 3 different keyboard types? well if so cant we just have a qwerty cab made? im not interested in the ofther keyboards.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dharvey4651:
I second this.

A cab that allows us to keep the Compact QWERTY and Phone Keypad from the standard EzInput while giving us the new Full QWERTY from the Touch Pro2 renamed to "Full QWERTY" so we can use SIPChange to select it.

Also, only make the cab for Full QWERTY and not the SIP menu or any of that as the Touch Pro uses a pretty nice SIP menu already.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] whatsleft4her:
i need qvga though
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CRACING:
Hello,

Today I have again started to convert wvga ezinput 2.0 to qvga so untill now I have completed 25% of work but still there is lot to do. Here is the screenshot.:)

Thanks and regards
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DupinBJK:
First rule is to be patient. We're not daemons running on the matrix to receive wishes and immediately satisfy them...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DupinBJK:
But with the map you've now copied, they worked under V1.5 (the previous suite) right ?

You're right when you say that I "should look at the way the Fuze keys are mapped", and I know exactly how to do it with V1.5, but there's probably something you don't know... I don't have a Fuze here :)

I'll ask to conflipper to check this issue, since he's using a Fuze, too. But as I said, this doesn't mean that his HW keyboard is using your same keycodes...

Meanwhile, could you post here your kmap, and try to get the codes for the wrong keys using the app which I've posted on #169 ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DupinBJK:
Nonono, it won't be possible to mix the two versions... they are using the same library but with different builds, which are not compatible. You can't mix registry settings that way...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] littld:
Good look, thanks :) looking forward to seeing this on my elfin!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] whatsleft4her:
cracing awesome work so far cant wait to try it
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] deuzeff:
Many thanks for taking care of poor qvga device owners :p.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Maikeu Locatelli:
You can make without the arrows?

great job, is very waited for me
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bbonzz:
I'm on HD. Maybe i'm missing something (or i have misunderstood), but i can switch between full qwerty and phone keypad ONLY via registry (0d/0a), and not via the sipmenu (btw, i don't see any difference between the old and the new one: to me seems the same thing), where i can only change the language and select a generic "Touch Input" whose layout is the one harcoded in registry via the same 0d/oa...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sammypwns:
Yes, the map i am using works with whatever LantisOS has been using for the SIP in 4.01 after applying the Fuze fix. I applied the Fuze fix, soft reset (to make the changes take affect), copied (to my microsdhc) and renamed the map file, installed the keyboard, pasted the map file and renamed it and then soft reset again. BTW, I am using this keyboard from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=485032&page=5 so might be the problem(although all Fuze owners seem to be saying the same thing) but I am planning on working on my Fuze this weekend so I will hard reset and try your keyboard and report back. I would do it tonight but my mom is gonna kill me if she finds out I'm not studying for my tests tomorrow.

Thanks again
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mouki_9:
i hope soon there will be language cabs for this fantastic keyboard!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DupinBJK:
"LantisOS has been using for the SIP in 4.01" Uh ? 4.01 what ?

Anyway, I mean the file coming from V1.5 of EzInput, the standard one on your stock rom. I'm not talking about a map which comes from a fix made by someone else, but about the one which officially came with your phone.

That's the only one for which we can be sure about a full compatibility.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DupinBJK:
As another user has reported, it seems that the new SipMenu (which has the same look and feel of the standard WM one) doesn't always appear. Smetimes it appears in front, sometimes not.

Praobably this happens because you still have the other SipGT_app running in background, because the new one just creates a service and doesn't overwrite the old one, but I am not sure.

One thing you can do, then, is to download the new 1.4 Nokbd on the first post, install, and after a soft reset stop the old SipGT_App. Obviously that one should be entirely removed from your registry, but for the moment you might try just to stop it before using the new keyboard...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bbonzz:
yes, this way works (also stopping the SipGT_App after having used the new kbd :)

Do you know for chance how to remove the old sipGT from registry, so to avoid it loads automatically?

EDIT: nevermind, found it, it's HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\BootLauncher\Apps\SIPGT_app. Actually, however, i haven't found a way to use Touch Input as defaul (also if in registry it's selected as default: done this via sktools): after reset i always have the blue kbd as default