yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lufc:
VERY NICE

keep me informed mate i am willing to test what ever you need pm me thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ureo73:
great man... :) :) :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] redziii:
Good Luck

Good Luck with ur classes man,

any idea when can we get more details abt the New Finger Touch ROM?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] WatermelonSlim:
What are you using to make that interface?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] irharrier:
i cant see any picture
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sd73ta:
looks good, keep up the good work. also a request...a simple clock please and thank you
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] chrisrc1985:
sounds interesting, could not get to much from the picture, if you have another screen shot please post it to allow us to make more comments and feedback which in the end is better for the testers and developers :)

thanks, keep up the good work!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Not sure. I need some help with that im just the graphics guys and stuff hehe.

Thanks man. It will be available asap.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stylez:
Check out Mort Buttons, runs on motor script and can be used as homescreen plugin, very customizable, with regards to the start program icons list, i know placement as in length vert to other so must be able to increase the size via reg, so you could say have 3 x row with larger icons.

Paradox, hopes u understand what i'm saying :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] anwei40:
So.. is this "screen shot" just a picture you created in photoshop?

Are you programming anything, or just visually constructing what you want the skin of an uncreated application to look like, hoping that some one else will make the UI happen, and planning to cook in some touch-friendly applications?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] flyboy009:
Where's the picture?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] JeckyllHavok:
Great idea with this rom,,

Good idea with mortscript, if i can help just pm me:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] j101399j:
When looking for Beta testers, please put me on the list :D. Rom looks like fun.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] whydanwhy:
You say you plan on doing this better than the other multitude of touch-based UI's out there, but you're going to do it without any programming skills?

I don't really mean to be so negative, but why not just use your graphic skills to completely reskin an already great UI like PointUI or something? You won't have to go through all the trouble of building an extensive app from the ground up, which is very much alot of work.

Either way, good luck.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
I can program html, css, asp, flash and alot of webstuff. I also know alot of xml. And I can cook roms. I dont know C++ or anything thought program a today list haha.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] WatermelonSlim:
SPB Mobile Shell is also skinnable. Here's a 550+ page thread full of skins for it:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=389106
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
I would but how many people buy it since its not free?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
So I checked this out. I will most definitely be able to skin for this but is it an actual today item or a application you run?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] WatermelonSlim:
Well it has a fully functional free trial that you can install and after like 30 days or something you have to register it. There is no nag screen or anything during the trial. So I would advise anyone with any questions to try out it.

As for how many people buy it, I read somewhere that it is the highest selling Windows Mobile app to date (a while ago) so there are plenty of people using it.

With 550+ pages full of skins in that thread, I'm guessing it's pretty easy to create a skin for it. So you should check it out. No programming needed.

Here's a video with one of the stock skins:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFY18I1B0Eo

You can download a trial here:

http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/download.html
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
I have a copy of it haha. Alright I will see what it takes to skin :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] WatermelonSlim:
The only thing about Mobile Shell is there is a new version coming out next month. So I don't know if any of the old skins will work on the new version. But I don't know if the new version will work right on our Tilts anyway (might need hardware acceleration).

But the version that is out right now is about as finger friendly as it gets on a Tilt. And it's skinnable too so you could make your interface on it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Alright ill look into it and get back to everyone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Alright i can do it. One thing though...Wheres the source to start out from? Like I am supposed to make a skin from thin air I need a starting point. So i can see what goes into it. Someone post a zip or rar with that.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] WatermelonSlim:
I think there is some tool or app or something that does it for you.

Ask how you do it in that thread. I'm sure they'll get you fixed up. Just post that you do graphics and you want to make a skin and don't know where to start or something.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mbarvian:
aren't we not supposed to use SPB Mobile Shell because it is commercial software (and not free, unless you use warez, which isn't cool in a ROM either). anyway, I might want to look into rlToday for the today plugin, if MortButtons doesn't do the trick :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Yeah I think ill stick to lite software and freeware. Sorry.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] WatermelonSlim:
SPB Mobile Shell has a fully function free trial (I think it's 30 days). No nag screen, nothing limiting. The only way you know it's a trial is after like 30 days it tells you to register.

I am not sure I've used the same ROM on this phone for 30 straight days anyway, but if anyone wants to keep using it they can register it at that time, reflash the ROM (and start that 30 days over again) or disable it in the today items.

I used it for 30 days and was so hooked on it I paid for it when my trial was up.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Or you can go the warez route lol. =] No suggesting anything hehe. If you like the software support the developer.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] WatermelonSlim:
Well chances are anyone flashing a cooked ROM is going to be flashing another one within 30 days. Be it an update to the ROM, or a whole new ROM. I don't think I've had the same ROM for 30 straight days since I started flashing. So you could probably get away with never buying it if you didn't want. The free trial is the exact same as the registered version.

I just paid for it because I liked it so much. Plus I had an older version of it that I bought a few years ago on a different phone, so I got a cheap upgrade price.

I know nobody wants to mess with commercial software, but this is basically freeware for the forst 30 days anyway. And how many people are going to go that long without flashing a new ROM anyway?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Very true indeed. (On the other note do you know of any SUPER NAKED roms like the bare minimum to run windows mobile?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] blaker13:
Looking forward to it!

Well if you want super nekkid just type that in search, there are so many theres days... great versions super lite, you should just have MBV make a whole new os for you, hes amazing.... PLus im really looking forward to your whole layout.... Starting fresh is always better. Many will help, i have two tilts so i can beta anyhting and i know a little so any help needed let me know.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] EnsconcE:
Point UI is fully skinnable and you can add applets. By doing that, you can exclude the OS itself. Though you will need some good applets. Skinning is limited in a way that all items are placed always at the same place.

You can take it further though with HomeScreen++

http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_batterystatus_xda_neo_wm5_im_cs.htm
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stylez:
Paradox please don't fall for the eveyone flashshes there phone all the time as many users are not hardcore flashers and even them that are tend to have a ROM that is their defacto, i have flashed alot of ROMs but tend to go back to the one in sig, so my point is that you will have users that keep a ROM longer than SPB's trial run, you have a good shot with freeware, MortButtons, Homescreen++ also by using large taskbar and reg edits etc.

I can't program but when you have a base ROM am more than happy to test.

Good luck.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Alright. Ill stick to freeware. Its much faster anyways to tweak the system than run separate applications. Is there any other places to get ROMS to build on? Like ones that are extracted into the correct folders? I dont know how to extract ROMS..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] WatermelonSlim:
You need a kitchen. Use that to cook a ROM.

Also, please note that there is no difference in using freeware or paid applications as far as speed goes. You have to get/make/whatever an OEM package for either of them, and there is no difference in the procedure for free apps versus commercial apps.

As for kitchens, check out NATF's kitchen at:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=443026

I use the NATF kitchen in the ROMS I cook. I have tons of commercial apps in my ROMS though, so I don't post them for everyone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
That's not what I meant. Of course it doesn't matter whether it be freeware or shareware. But running an application all the time vs it being integrated there is a RAM difference.

Ill take a look at that kitchen. I'm using KaiserCook V1 right now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] WatermelonSlim:
I don't think you understand what I was saying...

There is no difference in commercial or freeware apps. The only difference is one costs money, the other does not. Either one can be "integrated" (the term we use here is "cooked") into the ROM. Either one can also be installed seperately after you flash the ROM.

As I said, I cook my own ROMs, and I have tons of commercial software cooked into them.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Alright I get it. Hmmm I think im going to test out the ROM im making on my phone. Wish me luck id hate it if this bricked it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
ok who is willing to test this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] WatermelonSlim:
What are the details of the ROM? I might be willing to help you test but I have to know what I'm installing first...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
I just need a clean ROM I cooked to be tested to see what I have so far. Basically I want to make sure its working good, and whatnot. Its Windows Mobile 6.1, nothing special about it I just finished setting my phone up perfect and don't want to start over again though...Willing to test it?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] y2kalpha:
Hey..I will test it ....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stylez:
Don't take what i'm about to say personaly but to be honest if your going to build a ROM you have to be prepaired for many flashes and hard-resets and to not have a device properly configured for a while, never expect any one else to test b4 you have... I'm sure chefs here have flashed 1000's of time same goes for users, i know just with the ROM in sig that my Dash was flashed hundreds of times and hard-reset more, not set up properly untill end of each build.

"My point is never expect anyone else to test what you should be testing yourself"

Once again not a diss.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] WatermelonSlim:
What you want to do is get Sprite Backup or SPB Backup and make a backup file of your fully configured device. Then you can flash whatever ROM, and just restore the backup file. No need to reconfigure everything.

I was trying to find a way to cook the backup file into a ROM instead of making a bunch of OEM packages for my commercial apps. Nobody seems to know how to do it though.

But yeah, if you are cooking a ROM, you have to be ready to flash it to your device. I'm sure plenty of people are willing to test it for you, but you are going to have to test it too. There are a few ways to get your device configured after a flash. You can make your ROM UC compliant and it will install all your cabs from the SD card when you flash. Or you can make a backup file and just restore that after a flash.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] seeker007:
yeah great keep up the good work all new roms are welcome
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] chrisrc1985:
Not completely sure, but I believe if you get sprite backup and backup ur ROM then flash one, the sprite backup is not compatable with the backup.

I believe Resco Backup should do the trick

http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/backup/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] WatermelonSlim:
Sprite backup does restore across different ROMs. So does SPB backup.

Sprite Backup says:

http://www.spritesoftware.com/products/sprite-backup-power-pack

"Move your data with Recovery Mode - Restore to a different device or after a ROM Upgrade."

SPB Backup says:

http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/backup/

(have to hit "Restoring" tab)

"Can be restored after ROM upgrade (ROM upgrade mode)

Can be restored on another device (device upgrade mode)"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
I would test but I need my phone for work. Anyways, I will flash it very soon. I just wiped my HDD and threw on a 32bit version of vista since 64bit was giving me some issues with this software. Does anyone want to test what I have or no?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] blaker13:
Sure...

If you read my post before i have two tilts and would test your rom...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Alright I will upload and PT you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] blaker13:
ok..

I will flash latest stock rom now... awaiting your rom.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] blaker13:
ok..

What base did you use? 6.1?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mbarvian:
yeah, 6.1 :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Yes. D3D drivers integreted aswell.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
I downloading NATF's Kitchen but wow rapidshare is hella slow today im only hitting 70kbs >.<
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] blaker13:
Hahahha...

MBar!! Wat up!! i didnt know you were all up in this buisness! Now im very excited! A touch rom that might actually be a touch rom..woohoo! HOLLA! Good to see ya! And hey, you said you got some time to relax now... dont be using it all on here! enjoy yourself kid!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Alright I uploaded it who wants to test it right now?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] blaker13:
yup...

I didnt get the link yet?

Waiting...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Just sent you it. Post back the results on here.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] blaker13:
installed...

Ok, as far as i can tell its just a stock windows 6.1 rom?...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Did you flash it?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] blaker13:
yes...

Yes i flashed it.... It seem to do nothing, unless it is a stock 6.1 rom. Because before i flashed it i installed the newest stock rom for proper flash. Flashed your rom and it appears to still be the stock 6.1? And it did flash quick and to 100%

Edit: there was no customization after flash?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Is there any other apps? What about D3D? I dont know how to do the customization sorry. Sorry bud Im pretty new to this. Just a little help to get me going?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] blaker13:
hmm...

Well i dont see the drivers so im not sure if the rom is booting at all? later i can switch roms then i will know if its doing anything or not... I dont know how to do the customization either... Ask MB, he's a genious!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
I know he is. lol. Something must be wrong since the ROM was only 17mb lmao. I guess I could test it then since it seems to not do anything>?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] blaker13:
yea...

It def didnt do anything to the device...

EDIT: oh the MMS is set to 600K i dont think they do that in the stock rom... so maybe it did work somewhat?...hmm..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Hmm weird. Ill try to recreate it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Yeah the rom files must just be jacked up. Ill redownload soon. Im setting up a server with someone right now though soo itll be a lil bit.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] blaker13:
k...

Take your time my friend... good things come to those who wait... unless its touchxperiance...lol
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
lol. Yeah I dont what would cause this ill experiment some more
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Still no luck this is very weird.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Alright I just had to finish setting up my sever at my house. xD Alright so Im back in business with this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Weird. I Dont know. haha it appeared to work when I was cooking it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] blaker13:
hmm....

So what happened? any more progress...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Got super busy with school. Back to work again. For the latest builds and access to more check out my invite to my private server!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Back to work on this. I already have a Build out xD Just working on speed and stuff. Anyone got any tips for speed up?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ai6908:
Show us the beta!:rolleyes:

Lite ROM's are typically faster than fully loaded ones!;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
WOW. It so dang fast!!! Fastest ive ever used, not trying to brag on myself lol. But it uses only 28mb at idle. Only 28 xD. Ok Ill show beta soon. Who wants to test one person only. You have to been on for another 5hrs too I need feedback by tonight.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] blaker13:
well....

I have offered numerous times, and it always takes forever to make contact...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Sorry bro. Im failing school atm and its a bit more important than cooking but its so tempting to work on this. Ill have the rom to you asap
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
I flashed another ROM but my phone freezes on the bootscreen. Maybe its loading idk. But it hasnt came up yet what do I do?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
nevermind fixed. Just booted up to bootloader.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kaiserII101:
I had this problem when I was first cooking too. The culprit is usually a registry error. To flash another ROM slide out the hardware keyboard and undo the SIM "capsule" on the back. Your phone should shutoff. Enter the bootloader (press the camera and power button at the same time) and connect your phone through a USB cable. In the white area it should say "USB". Proceed to flash a ROM as normal. Make sure that the ROM you are flashing has worked before. Your done :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kaiserII101:
You should get your grades up in school before you even 'THINK' about XDA really. Classes aren't that hard for me yet since I'm only in the eighth grade and making all A's and one B but once I get into HS with all 3 of the Pre-AP classes I'm doing for 9th grade my posts per day will be more like 0.1 posts per day lol. But back to the topic. School is Much more important than ROM cooking. Not trying to slam you or anything just saying make sure XDA doesn't sidetrack you from your studies.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Very true. Its fine for now
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] apatcas:
pm me with a link im looking to beta... comming from a diamond and a g1 back to kaiser (i still love this thing!).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Alright bro. Will do im installing Adobe Master Collection CS4 Right now so I can use photoshop and make a splash screen for boot
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
I need this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=3488199#post3488199 To continue cooking.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Huge updates to the front page. Read it everyone. Dont worry about the builds either im getting them.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] doktor buknasty:
hey man, how is that rom turning out so far?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] blaker13:
Hmmm.....

Still waiting Para..... My two kaisers were ready to go, now one is full with PDA corner wich i love, that means theres one left... You said you were gonna PM me that beta correct?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kaiserII101:
I'm about finished with the folders for paradox so just hold on guys, once he gets them he will be able to finish the ROM.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kaiserII101:
alright guys I've pmed zarek the ROM folders so now he just needs to cook, have patience :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] irharrier:
please change the taskbar but not with colorfulls with toch friendly
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] twopumpchump:
hey paradox, just wanted to introduce myself :D i will test your new rom as soon as you get the links posted and let you know what i think. thanks for your hard work
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
@blaker13

Yes.

Im going to work on this soon i got a huge essay to work on though and I keep switching operating systems. Im stable it looks like though now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
I still need a 2000+ build. >.<
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] PRIdEVisions:
when do you think this rom will be ready ? i cant wait to Flash this rom :P

if you can send me a beta i would be glad ! KAiser ;)

btw, im very good with Photoshop, if you need help with some things..

http://pride-visions.deviantart.com/art/Dosojin-Concept-55555745 This is a work from me. First picture being orriginal, the other two what i made out of the orriginal with Ps.

Ill hear from you ;) Grtz
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] blaker13:
GRADES!

You pulling in better grades?... i dont want to have to spank you!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Not sure about grades. I need to get focused on studies a bit more though. :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Alright everyone here's a little update. I made some huge progress and should be releasing the beta tonight. As long as everything goes as planned.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stuff:
Well, sir.

I hope it does!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] blaker13:
Allright!

Cant wait man... ill be waiting for the PM... and keep working oin the grades!