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[Touch HD General] AllTheWay:
Or you can try and sell some of your devices here.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=434069

I am actually selling my HD for personal financial reason. I don't know if I will end up buying the Telstra HD version at a later date considering the device still looks better then the Diamond 2 and the Touch Pro 2 and once again Qualcomm has been nothing but disappointment for me. Maybe just wait it out and see what HTC comes up with because these 7201A chipsets are not working for me.
[Touch HD General] bill48105:
Cool thanks I'll check it out! I'd definitely rather sell them to a regular on xda than some scammer on ebay. (Can you tell I've had bad experiences? lol) I suspect as a well respected Mod who's been around longer than dirt (soz) you should have easier time selling than peeon like me but worth a try.

Wish I could buy yours but between all the phones I already got, the high cost of the HD (although yours is a steal!), lack of US 3G on it and my bad experiences with Dual, Diamond & Fuze (mostly VERY bad battery life on Diamond & quite tough to live without buttons even though I *love* the touch screen) I am 1/2 tempted to switch back to my old phone. It is very sad my old S710 seems to run apps almost as fast or faster than some of these other phones and battery lasts 10x as long. That is pitiful and I am guessing that is part of your gripe about Qualcomm.. And if I'm not mistaken Qualcomm is too secretive with their stuff which stinks.

Bill
[Touch HD General] geekbuddha:
Just got mine today.....working great on ATT - have an H on the status bar. Still setting it up, so havent tested the speed yet - will run some tests later.

Wow a 3G TOuch HD.....cooooooooool!!
[Touch HD General] galaxys:
sounds good, what state? and do a screen shot of the 3G when u have chance...
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
i'm using the Field Test app on my UK HD in Kansas City and it's showing Band-3 850 everywhere i go. when in look on the map, i get the impression that there's less 850 band coverage, but that's not been the case. wifey works for att (corp) and her sources say that dallas has very good 850 3G coverage. will test the same when i return to dallas... thanks for posting the cab file.
[Touch HD General] IPatty:
Yea, you're right the map is ambiguous. It was late when I posted, I guess I didn't look at it close enough. The map shows 850 GSM coverage. I guess one could extrapolate using maps 2 and 3 and get some idea. I mean if you're area has 850 GSM towers and gets 3G, then it's logical to assume you might have 850 3G. Hmm. Then again you know what they say when you assume, you make an ass ..... Thanks for the cab, I'll give it a whirl.

p.s. tough year for your Raiders bro. But, with young talent like DMAC and Russell and locking down Namdi, the future should be bright.
[Touch HD General] felixjai:
Telstra HD working in NYC

Got my Telstra HD today. I have AT&T in NYC. I loaded with Dutty 2.1. Screenshots show my HD is connected with AT&T 3G. "H" icon shows up.
[Touch HD General] markgencorelli:
Hey guys,

So I got my Telstra HD today as well. (I live in California btw for those who are curious to see if 3G works)

It looks like I have 3G because my phone has the same big "H" icon as the attached photos, but for some reason my internet is not working when I try browsing.

Weird thing is that when I WiFi it, the internet works fine.

But everytime I try to connect via my AT&T 3G network, it brings an error page...can someone help?

By the way, how do I get rid of all this Telstra stuff? Not really a fan :D

Thanks for the help!
[Touch HD General] felixjai:
I had the same problem too before flashing with Dutty 2.1 Rom. The reason was Telstra has "locked" the phone only you can use their Next-G/3G service. You have to do HardSPL (using the manual method) and flash one of the customized Roms. After that, you should be fine.
[Touch HD General] markgencorelli:
Ahh...icic, ok....

So the fact that there's a really big "H" on the top right, just like the one I saw in your screenshots means it definitely has 3G, correct?

Sorry for seeming like a paranoid spaz but I just need to make sure because I need to return my Xperia tonite since the warranty expires today for a full refund.

I'm planning to do all the tweaking and Flashing and getting my XDA "education" on this weekend (first time XDA-er here, as you guys can probably tell with my newbness :o)

But I want to make sure my phone has the 3G first and foremost, so i can hurry up and return my Xperia tonite.
[Touch HD General] bill48105:
If you have your ATT sim in there & it has H & not E you definitely have 3G UMTS unless the rom was modified by Telstra to trick you. lol But since others have said the bandwidth tests show 3G speeds you are probably safe. ;)

Bill
[Touch HD General] markgencorelli:
It's weird though that I'm able to sync up my gmail and get it set up with regular updates but the internet browser still not work.

Shouldn't my gmail not work if my internet doesn't work?
[Touch HD General] geekbuddha:
I am in Seattle. Ran some speed tests and was conistently getting 1113 kbits/sec

I did a HardSPL and am running Duuty's v2.1 ROM
[Touch HD General] stpete111:
I just bought the one that Scaven is selling. I can't believe I'm going to be able to get 3G in the US, I'm so excited. Bye Bye Diamond. But that's the weird thing... the Telstra version of the Diamond was not able to get 3G in the US, so I thought.

Anyway, the very painful waiting period begins for my new phone to make its way from Australia to the US.

For those of you in the US who have bought from Australia, how many days did it take to get to the US?
[Touch HD General] bill48105:
Well as felixjai said Telstra likely locks or at least custom configs the rom and possibly even radio to work with their network. Since you can do some internet maybe it is the browser settings or a proxy, you'd have to compare with a working phone or check settings online. Or bite the bullet & put a different rom on there. Not sure if a stock HD non-Telstra rom would work (or work & maybe not give you 3G, you'd need to try or find someone who has) but by the looks of the posts Dutty's works great with that phone. I'd just make a note of your rom/radio stuff that came stuck & probably wouldn't hurt to dump them before updating if official RUU's aren't available. By the sounds of it no one would want that original rom but you never know. That is the pack rat paranoid looking ahead part of me talkin though.

Have fun playin with your new toy! Hopefully my Media-To-Go Popcorn Hour network media tank will arrive today & I'll have a new toy too. :D

Bill
[Touch HD General] markgencorelli:
Mine only took about 3 days. Longest 3 days of my life. :p

Probably depends on what kind of shipping (I had it sent via Fedex)
[Touch HD General] stpete111:
Yeah mine is definitely NOT Fedex. It's just regular AUS Post. He included the shipping in the price (which was a steal to begin with) so I can't complain. I ordered a CD from Australia 5 or 6 years ago via normal Post, and if I recall, I think it took 10 days. It's going to be a looooong 10 days.
[Touch HD General] markgencorelli:
:eek:

Thanks for the helpful pointers...

By all accounts, it looks like I will be using the Dutty rom since I've heard such rave reviews about it.

I got a long road ahead this weekend (a lot of learnin' to do on this XDA site :eek:) to make sense out of all of this "flashing" and customizing stuff.

But I really look forward to finding just exactly how much I can tweak this bad boy... :D
[Touch HD General] bill48105:
Cool, lucky dawg! Funny how it seems like time is standing still waiting for a new toy then it arrives & you play with it a bit & toss it to the side for a new toy. Like back bein a kid. lol

Speakin of Diamonds, I got a new Rogers Diamond & it is essentially the US version & supports ATT 3G but has the thinner shiny back (and obviously smaller 900mAh battery) but also has the front camera! It required SIM unlock to work with my ATT but once I did that it worked & I got 3G although their ROM and/or radio is customized so it says 3G not H. I never got around to testing other radios/roms (partly because it has EXTROM & wanted to back it up unless I could find official RUU to put it back) but since it says DIAM110 and shows at least 3G I was comfortable it would support the full UMTS speed of my real US Diamonds. Man I need to sell some of these phones. lol Anyway you mentioning the Telstra Diamond reminded me of my Rogers one. I find it frustrating how many versions HTC and/or carriers release of these phones with little way to differentiate them. I guess the optimistic side of me would say 'great we now have a US-compatible 3G phone!'. I guess also also gives us something to play with. hehe

Bill
[Touch HD General] bill48105:
No problem. I know Dutty's Diamond rom's have worked well for me. Assuming the HD process is similar to my Diamond, if you get a good hardspl on there should be pretty safe to try other roms/radios. Doing so pretty much voids your warranty (if you even have one ordering from Australia) but being able to put it back is helpful if it were or maybe to sell later. Obviously there are risks involved but part of the fun. Just don't break it, VERY expensive paper weight! lol

Bill
[Touch HD General] stpete111:
Oh wow, well maybe after all this time there IS a way to get 3G on the Diamond without specifically buying the US version. And by "US version" I mean the the one HTC officially calls the US version which has NO front camera. So to have a Diamond with a front camera that also works for 3G data seems like a gem.

I got so confused and lost in all the different version of the Diamond. All I know is I have very much loved my US Diamond for 8 or so months I have had it. I hope to sell it to someone for cheap and make them as happy as I have been with it. But now, it's on to an HD!
[Touch HD General] turcomora:
Nooo. You bought the one from Scaven:( I passed on it yesterday after getting scared and now I am kicking my self. Well good luck and please let us know how it goes. Now I am off to look for another one myself.
[Touch HD General] markgencorelli:
That is absolutely my #1 fear: Turning it into a useless brick.

Which is why I'm waiting this weekend before I do anything at all. Just want to spend these next couple days reading the wiki page and some of the pertinent threads.

I want to make sure I read up on everything I need to know before attempting to do any bit of tweaking with this phone.

Seems paranoid, but I'd be pretty crushed if I bricked it... :mad:
[Touch HD General] x5-rwk:
Are most of you still buying them off of ebay or is there a better site to get one. Paying almost $900 for a phone seems a bit high. Although if you look at it from a use point of view, I should be spending the most on my smartphone and not worry about it. I use it 24/7 and the more productive and happy I am with my device the better I will do. I love it when people ridicule me about how much I spend on my phones but then buy a $1,000 coffee maker and they still go to starbucks at $5 a shot. All that being said, I still want the best price. I am starting to get board with my iphone. It is nice but I miss my windows mobile. I do want to keep the iphone for a while but will probably sell it soon.

Again, if anyone has a great link that can save a few bucks, let me know. The T8282 is going for under $650 US with free shipping on ebay. I can't believe the T8285 is that much more expensive.
[Touch HD General] x5-rwk:
I did the same thing. A little too scared for someone selling something as expensive as that and has only 1 post. Good luck, I hope it works out. I am sure it will.
[Touch HD General] stpete111:
Yeah I was reluctant due to the 1-post thing, but I asked several questions and asked him to snap a new specific pic of the box oriented a certain way, and he did so and sent it to me. Within a couple hours of paying him, I had a tracking #, which checks out so far. I realize that just because there is a box on its way to me does not mean that it has a phone in it, but I took my chances.

Nice guy, gave me his full name and sent me an email from his email address showing that name too, so I think it's all good. I didn't ask for his phone #, but I think he would have gladly given to me if I asked.

I'll let you guys know for sure in about 10 days or so!
[Touch HD General] geekbuddha:
FS: Unlocked UK version Touch HD

I just got my Telstra version and how am happily cruising 3G on ATT. Looking to offload my UK version. Its in excellent condition - no scratches, no marks, no blemishes. I can take and send pictures if someone is interested. It is currently Hard SPL'ed and running Dutty v2.0. I can also include a license for Vito SMS-Chat and Pocketshield since I bought them for this device and cannot transfer them to my new device.

Will ship express anywhere. PM me if interested for price.

Thx.
[Touch HD General] marktang:
actually rogers' 3G is on 850 as well.
[Touch HD General] bill48105:
Well I can say for certain the Rogers Diamond does indeed say DIAM110 (like like my real US Diamond) on the back & supports not only 850 GSM but also ATT 3G. But yeah it has the front camera! Tell me how weird that is.. Again, another example of HTC using not only the same same for different models with different specs & capabilities but the exact same model # too! HTC drives me nuts sometimes. lol

Bill
[Touch HD General] bill48105:
LOL don't blame ya there. That would be one expensive brick! Yeah read up but odds are if you hardspl it you are pretty safe. I have a Diamond & a Dual that I've yet to brick even after numerous bad flashes (for example the power went out mid flash before! And I put on a few bad roms I cooked up my Dual wouldn't even get past the 1st screen.) and I just went into bootloader & re-flashed from there over USB or if I had it on memory card (the internal on Diamond) I did it that way too. But yeah I sweat after a bad flash with by $200 Dual let alone an HD that is nearly $1000! :eek:

Bill
[Touch HD General] goldsfool:
is 3G really worth it?

I think it's awesome that 3G works on the Telstra HD in the US, but is selling your current one for less than you paid for it and then buying another one for more than your old one really worth having 3G over EDGE? What are yall doing on your phones that require 3G...streaming movies, radio? Just wondering bc email and internet isn't THAT much different between the two from what I've experienced.

Also, for those of you who had the EDGE and now have the 3G, how significant is the increased battery drain? With EDGE on all day and moderate use, I'm getting about 1.5 days...what it's like with 3G?
[Touch HD General] joshjdevl:
Could someone please post the Telstra radio rom?
[Touch HD General] Tecknik:
Hey guys, I was searching Amazon today and noticed that you can get the unlocked, unbranded quad-band Touch HD from Amazon themselves, or another seller on Amazon.

Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...t_shr?_encoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance

MobileCityOnline on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Touch-T82..._1_6?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1236297458&sr=1-6

Amazon wants $880, while MobileCityOnline wants $850. MobileCityOnline claim they have 4 left.

Figured it was information worth posting.
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
those are UK versions of the HD. unfortunately, those do not have the 850 3G Band.
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
personal preference for me... now i can tether my laptop, talk on the phone and receive email all at the same time. can't do that with my EDGE version. i'm keeping both of mine (for now)... this is like a hobby for me, i buy, collect, hold, sell, then buy something else if i like it...
[Touch HD General] lbarouf:
Video calling. Can't do it in GPRS/EDGE, only in 3G. Voice quality can be pretty good on 1900 WCDMA, quite impressive actually.
[Touch HD General] bigwill3:
video calling in the US?
[Touch HD General] galaxys:
Hows the battery life on 3G compared to Edge?
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
did you use HardSPL to unlock your device prior to flashing it?
[Touch HD General] lbarouf:
And Dutty SIM unlocked it?
[Touch HD General] Tecknik:
I think you need to re-read, because both of those links state they are quad band with 850/900/1800/1900.
[Touch HD General] lbarouf:
Well...half way. AT&T has video share. For some strange reason, AT&T offers one person to send his video stream to chat to someone else (on 3G also, same phone capabilities, etc), but the person sending doesn't have the feed of the other person. That sucks. Lack of CS64 channels I guess.
[Touch HD General] lbarouf:
I don't have a Telstra HD, can't say for this model, but typically, battery drains faster when device is on 3G. I can imagine in the US would be the same with the Blackstone 8285.
[Touch HD General] lbarouf:
Thse are GSM bands supported. 3G (UMTS, HSPA, HSPA+) is a network overlay...which means you can use the 850Mhz band range to broadcast both, 3G *AND* GSM. You need to look for WCDMA (this is 3G), vs GSM. So, by looking closely you will see WCDMA 850,2100 for the 8285, where it is 900,2100 Mhz on the UK 8282 blackstone. All models support quad band GSM.

Any clearer?
[Touch HD General] Tecknik:
Ah, okay. Sorry about that, then.

Just a silly noob here.
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
lol, no problem... been there, done that... it's a learning process we all go through. and by the way, my Telsta HD arrived today. it's been HardSPL'd, flashed with Dutty 2.1, and yes, i am able to get 3G access. inside my house, 3G signal is available but not as strong as it is when i go outside. other than the radio difference and the logo on the battery cover, this thing looks exactly the same as my UK version.
[Touch HD General] lbarouf:
I thought the Telstra units were SIM locked. Does Dutty unlocks it?
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
mine was unlocked....
[Touch HD General] lbarouf:
Humm, 1499$AUS outright, pretty hefty price. May I ask where you got yours?
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
got mine from an ebayer in australia. i believe the link is posted in this thread. instead of bidding on his auction i called and ordered over the phone. price is hefty for sure, but i sold 4 other devices to cover 90% of my cost. FYI, i used the original Blackstone HardSPL program on a 64-bit laptop running Windows 7 (7022) to CID unlock my device. pics below show 3G speed in my neighborhood, which doesn't have the best 3G coverage.
[Touch HD General] ~~Tito~~:
MAN!!! :eek: You guys are lucky! I wish I had a HD to begin with. . . :(

I still believe that there is someway to change the radio to use 1900/850. Since it can only see 2 frequencies at a time, maybe if you switch it to only see 1900/850, or revert it back to what ever you had it or change it. If that is the case then what would we need to do to figure out how to shift the antenna to receive only 1900/850, or 850/2100? The service manual says this (Key word is "OR"):
[Touch HD General] Moony1987:
Exactly. So the three proposed hardware versions have

*Version 1 (Blac100) 900/2100

OR

*Version 2 (Blac120) 850/2100

OR

*Version 3 (Blac***) 850/1900

So yes, OR is the correct word. It's just that the difference in frequencies is hardware revisions, not software, and that the third version was never put into production for reasons unkown.
[Touch HD General] ~~Tito~~:
Yes, I have thought of that too, but it say's dual mode, so it implies that there would be more options under the same roof. Plus right under the list of modes it has the list of the frequencies it supports and it supports all of them, that's why I think this, it is capable of receiving all of them, but can only use 2 at a time. (Not the best example but) Like if you are eating pizza, you can eat a whole pizza, but you can only eat one slice at a time.

And if I am wrong then whatever since it did make sense and lots of people could have made that assumption.
[Touch HD General] Moony1987:
It is Dual Mode. It can use 2 frequencies (in this case the proposed dual mode sets were 850/2100 or 900/2100 or 850/1900, with the 850/1900 being the only hardware revision that wasn't made) which is all Dual Mode means, not that it has a secret super special hidden mode to enable more.
[Touch HD General] lbarouf:
Dual Mode means 2 modes...not 2 frequencies. It can mean analog and PCS such as CDMA phones, but in this case it mean GSM and WCDMA(if you prefer 3G, or HSPA).

You can have 2G, or GSM/GPRS/EDGE on 850mhz *AND* WCDMA on 850Mhz. Single frequency, dual mode.

Hope it's clearer.
[Touch HD General] lbarouf:
Are Telstra devices, T8265 labeled as BLAC120 ?
[Touch HD General] lbarouf:
Thanks for the pics. For sure it's a nice device. May I ask how much premium you had to pay so it was unlocked (and you didn't have to go get it down under)? Is it labeled BLAC100 or something else?

Thanks
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
the device was advertised as unlocked so don't know if there was a premium for that. the only place is being sold from (that i can tell) is Australia.
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
mine is labled T8285, BLAC120. I say BLAC120 because HardSPL gave me a warning that it was not made for my device.
[Touch HD General] lbarouf:
Except, that on a cellular, unless you have 2 transceivers, you can't connect to both GSM *AND* WCDMA. On WCDMA you can, with a single radio, talk and transfer data, but that's different. That's not like having your cake eating it also, it's more like eating and sharing your cake.

BTW, don't trust the band menu, it's just a registry entry, and it does not reflect your hardware config. If someone could confirm the T8265 hardware, with a closeup of the amplifiers and radios, we could see if HTC actually made a different hardware version.
[Touch HD General] lbarouf:
So, under the battery you would see BLAC120, above the barcodes, next to the 5V mention. Actually, I don't see the T8285/T8282 mentioning anywhere, not even on the CID. In the ROM maybe?

Thanks Cortez.
[Touch HD General] lbarouf:
Everywhere, except 1 spot, close to Detroit, where you get 3G on 1900 Mhz still. Who knows why....you still get GSM on 850Mhz.
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
google HTC Touch HD T8285 and it will always be associated with the Telstra version. fyi, the word BLAC120 is not on the label underneath the battery.
[Touch HD General] lbarouf:
I meant by references to T8285 that nowhere on the device besides the about screen (which I guess could be altered in the registry, I found references to T8285, don't know where these model numbers come from. HTC refers to the devices as BLAC100 or BLAC120 I think. I know that so far the only network with the Blackstone to support 850 and 2100 is Telstra.
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
T8285 is the model number listed on the box. ran another speed test outside my home today and got 1157 kbit/sec. so i'd say for sure that 850 3G is working very well!
[Touch HD General] tkalli:
When in Malaysia, I use Maxis and have 3G.

In the US, I just use WiFi and speed is about the same.

Here is mspeed using WiFi in San Diego.

Have gotten reading in 1700's.

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[Touch HD General] ~~Tito~~:
I don't have a blackstone, and I have known about the false frequency changes for a while :cool:.
[Touch HD General] saiyolang:
Just got my Telstra today.

1st thing I did is, FLASH with Dutty.

AWESOME. 3G.
[Touch HD General] Moony1987:
It is on mine. Right under the CE marking, beside the Bluetooth symbol.
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
true. that was a typo. i should have removed the word "not".

by the way, has anyone in the US using the phone on at&t been able to get YouTube to establish a connection? i always get "Connection failed. Try again." thanks.
[Touch HD General] Moony1987:
Nevermind. Read before posting :D
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
i flashed Dutty's 2.1 custom ROM and it doesn't connect with at&t's internet service. if i use WiFi i can connect fine. i think at&t is blocking a port that's used by the YouTube app.
[Touch HD General] bigwill3:
so i thought i lived in a 1900 3g area, but i'm not so sure anymore. is there any way to force my US diamond to only use 850 for wcdma for testing purposes?