yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD General] TraumaX:
Agreed, not everyone has the time, patience, ability, confidence to be flashing rom after rom, especially someone new to flashing. And for any user coming to these forums there is a bewildering amount of different roms and information. No one is asking for a be all and end all answer, but to get some opinions for a starting point can be very useful and inspire a bit of confidence to actually get going.

As long as constructive opinions are given, I personally don't see anything wrong in this. An answer as to why someone uses a rom for a particular reason may be the exact criteria that another person is looking for and might save that person a LOT of time and effort trying many roms first just to end up at that same rom.

The threads dazza mentioned I thought were being dealt with very constructively with some good advice in there. No one wants any flame war or anyone just being competitive with their chosen rom but please lets have some perspective, and credit most people with some intelligence and let some constructive discussion be allowed.
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
Totally agree. What harm can come from contructive opinions. This may save a person numerous flashes and time. Where is the harm in that?

It saved me time when I first joined and flashed my first ROM!!
[Touch HD General] dazza9075:
Indeed, ill not flash a ROM unless ive had a good read about others views, its my choice to listen to them or not, theres just simply too many ROMS and versions of ROMs to not allow this constructive debate.
[Touch HD General] tnyynt:
Blackstone users have not invented the habit to ask about which ROM is the best, which to use, etc.

Threads like these get closed because very simple reasons: the discussions in the respective threads are based solely on subjective opinions and experiences.

Every ROM has description in the ROM thread and plenty of feedback inside. What might suit me would most probably not suit you. It all comes down to users' needs and what and how they use their devices. ROM expectations are based on these. Thus, asking questions about ROMs would normally generate answer pointing in a direction other users might find wrong.

All ROMs are public, with their description and feedback inside. Nobody stops users from testing and trying ROMs, according to their tasted and expectations.

I was the one closing those threads and will continue closing similar threads.

In case you have objections, complain to site Admin regarding this issue and do not throw your anger at the XDA community which supports us all.

Moving this thread to General as it has nothing to do with ROM developent!
[Touch HD General] TraumaX:
With respect, I don't see any anger here towards XDA, just opinions again. I don't think anyone is suggesting people shouldn't read and do some research, of course they should, but there are a lot of roms, some with hundreds of pages of feedback, and it can be pretty daunting. To be sure, there is a lot of help within each of threads for the individual roms but to get some perspective and comparison of them from those who have already tried many of them with some (subjective) opinions can be extremely helpful in my view.
[Touch HD General] dazza9075:
With respect, its not feasable to test every single ROM to get a feel for them all before maknig a choice, you dont buy a car by trying out every single car on the road, you read reviews which are ALL subjective and opinionated and then rate those experiences to your needs, that limits your choices which then allows you to try it out,

everyone knows that an opinion is just that, its a user opinion, its a view of that individual. To stop all subjective / opinionated remarks would effectively shut down the website.

For instance a thread on the Touch HDs camera speed would be factual in the sence that everyone knows its crap with moving pictures, but the thread would always be subjective since other users will notice this more, you cant stop that trate in humans its in our nature, so long as the comments are not designed to personally attack anothers view the thread will live an die on its on accord with out the need to moderate them.

With regards to why i published this, it is in the communities intrest to know what they can and cant do, im not attacking you personally for closing them, just the "rules" behind the decision. but if we are not able to keep this thread civil and it gets closed then yes ill pass on my comments to the admin instead.

We are all (mostly) adults on here lets not bring the nanny state here as well.
[Touch HD General] sergiopi:
I can add my 5 cents here.... this is a well known problem, in every forum.

You can open a thread asking "What ROM are you using and WHY?" and IMHO this could be interesting, but asking " ROM Ratings...Your Opinions" or worst " What ROM is the best for me?" are tricky questions, because RATING and OPINIONS doesn't fit well together in the first case :) and BEST FOR you? ...who knows is the first answer I have in mind :)

This doesn't seems to have high relevance but those threads could be, on the dark side, "Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs)", starting a flame war against or pro single chefs.

Are "dangerous" threads, a thread, may be with a poll, "What rom are you using and WHY" could be dangerous but interesting and will survive ONLY if users are responsible and avoid a flame war

Thanks, 5 cents donated :)
[Touch HD General] DaveShaw:
As tynnyt said "this is not a blackstone problem".

This issue was discussed to death here : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=466666

Thanks

Dave
[Touch HD General] noris08:
i don't have time to test each rom and for each of them to test every aspects in order to have my own conclusion.

as many others from here, would very intersted in the answer wich rom is best, but i am old enough (you would be surprised;)) to know that there is no answer to that question. from different reasons, pointed enough around here

what i want to suggest is a different approach, ofcourse if mods and admins will find that useful

instead in statement like x rom is better than y rom, or z rom rules, maybe guys who use or test different roms can give a feedback to others, with little experience, time or dare, concerning few aspects of the rom

for instance:

user noris08 (me) uses frank's rom v.1.5.12345. i would qualify that like that:

- glamurous looking

- moderate usability

- great battery life (15 days stand by - wouldn't you like that?)

- not so good speed

- extremely good for memory management (75% free)

- fix following known issues:

1. fix stutters in audio playing

2. add hardware acceleration for coreplayer

3. 3G signal always on 5 bars

4. gps fix in 5 sec

4. so on

- noticed bugs:

1. alarm clock doesn't work in stand by

2. appoinments shown with 2 hours delay

3. so on

- i would recomend it for mutimedia users

- i would rate it 7/10

it is likely that will be only a few guys with big harts to post their impressions, but is more then nothing.

in this way maybe we will not hurt rom developers feelings by just comparing x rom with y rom. they will also have some feed back concerning their work, appart of "thanks and great job mate"

just a thought!

cheers to everybody!
[Touch HD General] LeszekSwirski:
I agree 100% with the above post.
[Touch HD General] tnyynt:
That a somewhat more acceptable way of putting things. If you also agree on benchmarking the ROMs (procedure, software used, etc.) then every user can post results/bugs/appearance/etc. and you'd have a standardized way of centralizing information that would be based on facts.
[Touch HD General] dazza9075:
we're all big and old enough to know the difference, i think its quite disrespectful to ban such questions for several reasons, but something that is quite relevent is language.

English isnt everyones native language, gramatically speaking it might read to us as "which is the best ROM ever" but that might not be what they ment.

but whatever, seems minds are made and common sence has taken another knock back at the expence of so called politcal correctness, in this case offending the egos of the cookers out strips the need for new inexperienced users wanting simple feedback from the community about something without having to drudge through 1000s of pages of posts and spending much of there free time trying out every last ROM out there.

Just seems crazy if you ask me.
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
I agree, this would be a good thread to start, i.e. benchmarking the ROMs procedure, software used, etc
[Touch HD General] dazza9075:
but using your logic, is it factual?

"- great battery life (15 days stand by - wouldn't you like that?)"

hell i have that ROM and its only lasting 10 days, instantly it becomes opinionated and subjectional

ok thats an extreme example, but even with a very well laid out feedback such as that people will disagree, you have to either ban them all or let adults use their own common sence.

I would like to say add guide lines for "which ROM" requests but another human trait is that they wont read them either.
[Touch HD General] tnyynt:
Wasn't talking about battery (but even that could be reported as Radio + ROM + usage) but about using the same benchmark tool that needs to run in the same circumstances (i.e: after hard reset, manila disabled, etc.), about reporting memory usage after start up and after a day's usage, reporting bugs, etc.

I.E.:

SKTools benchmark:

X

X

X

X

Battery:

5 days with

A Radio

B Rom

X calls/day, X minutes of wifi, X no. of messages

Memory after startup:

X used

Storage memory after hard reset:

X used

Startup time:

X seconds from vibrate till stable today screen

etc.
[Touch HD General] dazza9075:
id agree, a simple standardised benchmark runing a number of tests over a few hours would give a good account without the opinions, any suggestions?
[Touch HD General] tnyynt:
You Guys find a way out and ellaborate the procedure that'd help you most. I gave you some hints. I'll support that, and I believe so will my fellow MOD colleagues.
[Touch HD General] noris08:
cmmon dazza, as yourself said, english is not the native language of all people from here, me included

so don't pick the extreme example (although a mouth wattering goodie) and look at what i ment

as tnyynt resumed, someone could imagine a set of more or less objective criteria (hopping more then less) and testers could reffer to them when posting their impression

if i could do that, i also will allow 1 or 2 personal subjective opinions of the testers.

please keep in mind that all decisions are 90% emotional and only 10% rational. afterward process of so called selection (reviews, side by side test, whatever) is done only to justify initial decision;)

but if i oppened the Pandora's box here, please just ignore my suggestion and feel free to delete my post or close the thread

LE:

i would like to see what roms developers have to say about this ideea? do they think it is useful?
[Touch HD General] nir36:
It is not the fact that the thread is called "Which ROM is the best?" that bothers me.. it is the fact that the answers to this question are almost always "udk's R0" for example, which is a completely POINTLESS response. Benchmarking would mean that when asked "which rom is the best" you'd answer that udk's R0 goes very well with TF3D, iContact is very responsive, battery time is mediocre and... yada yada.

I don't find asking these questions a problem from the point of view of the question itself, but with what this question generates.

I would definately like to hear some opinions about ROMs before i flashed one since it can save me the time of handling 3 ROMs instead of one before deciding which way to go. For instance, I didn't flash a WM6.5 rom because I read it is very slow. If instead of reading it is slow I read "WM6.5 ROM sucks", i'd try it, because saying "WM6.5 ROM sucks" is pointless and unsatisfactory as an opinion.
[Touch HD General] DaveShaw:
PURESKILLZ has speant a lot of time reviewing ROM's in the Kaiser ROM Development forum. It may be a bit extreme for this situation, but he benchmarks and comments on all ROMs when he has time.

Some reviews start at about post 15 of this thread : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=399510&highlight=pureskillz

He also publishes them in the the ROM chefs threads.

Ta

Dave
[Touch HD General] tnyynt:
Some other good examples would be in the Diamond section:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=406640 - probably the most comprehensive

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=420138
[Touch HD General] spike1509:
I think the fact you cannot have a subjective opinion on a rom and discuss it with other users is a bit ridiculous!

these were amongst the first threads i read to gauge which ROM to go for!

although the cook gives you a good description of his rom he could (and i am under no circumstances saying this is the case) be a tad biased. after all he's worked hard to do what he has.

serveral individuals stating x rom does this but not this and this is a bit buggy is a better indication for me.

Cest la vie.

I do however understand closing a thread in which a user is just *****ing about a ROM.
[Touch HD General] Cret:
I'd like to make a suggestion if I may (and apologies if this has been proposed elsewhere!!).

I think a great way of getting round all this sort of palaver would be to have a comparison matrix/spreadsheet of some sort for various Roms.

Each time a chef cooks a new one they add the details to it, so you can see at a glance what features one rom has compared to another in terms of categorised apps included/cut etc, and maybe a section for additional comments for things not suitable for a checkbox.

I know there'd be a bit of work initialising it but once it's there it's easy to add info on new roms as & when they are released and an incredibly useful tool for people to see what's what and help decide what rom would work best for them.

I like the idea of messing with different roms to a degree but I don't have masses of spare time so I find it tricky to try and absorb all the info necessary to make a good decision, and something like this would be invaluable!
[Touch HD General] dazza9075:
the wiki already has a table which could be amended without much hassle but in an ideal world it would be useful to have a matrix that could be sorted by various Columns, it would give you a raw database for the tests carried out on a pre defined build of the benchmark program, which can be sorted depending on the user requests, prodecures are fairly simply which all gets around this opinion issue

i think it would be worth while regardless of this issue, but benchmarks dont take in to account the while device, how much lag there is whilst sliding, load times of programs audio / video glitches, bugs etc and this is where it turns in to a very gray area because its all going to be opinionated
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
I think all of the ideas mentioned are good, but its got to the stage now where we need to start actually creating this table either in the wiki cooked ROM's section or to start a new thread and tabulate our results or else we will continue to post our opinions without actually taking any action!
[Touch HD General] noris08:
meanwhile can someone split this thread cause discussion is no longer related to the original title and potential interested users can be missleaded?

and maybe make it sticky somewhere?
[Touch HD General] dazza9075:
ill make a new thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=3427712#post3427712
[Touch HD General] DaveShaw:
I'll close this one to keep the discussion focused.:)

Ta

Dave
[XPERIA X1 General] perich:
After i installed it i set up one number in favourites as a test... but when i tick that icon, standard dialing screen pops up, not the inesoft dialer/callerID screen... can this be changed?

thanks
[Touch HD General] Da11y:
Hi all,

I decided to set a custom wallpaper today on my HTC Touch HD and found one

that was 800x480 so it would fit perfectly on the screen. When I look at the

picture through the file explorer, it looks sharp and exactly what it looked like

on my PC, but when I set it as a wallpaper using the Settings tab

in Touchflo3D, it comes out very blurry. It's almost a low-res version of the

original image.

Is there any way to fix this problem.

Thank you

EDIT:

I opend another thread in the HD Touch sesction of the forum as I thought

I'd get more replies here. Could a moderator please remove my other thread

in "Questions and Answers"
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
Not sure if this is related. I had a similar problem with my contacts images.

If I assigned contact photos in Outlook and then sync, the contact photos on my phone were low-res.

But if I assigned contact photos on your SD card directly to specific contacts they became hi-res thumbnails.

Were do you have your wallpaper saved?
[Touch HD General] Da11y:
I have my pictures saved in the Pictures Folders in the My Documents folder.

I don't understand why this would happen, just because it's stored in

internal memory.

Never-the-less I shall try what you said and see whether it works.

Just to make sure 800x480 is the correct resolution for wallpapers on the

HTC Touch HD isn't it?

Thanks for your help Fallen Spartan
[Touch HD General] ClownShoes:
Your problem is slightly different Spartan, If you synch with Outlook it will always down res your contact images. The trick is to add them via the people tab in manila. That keeps them high res.

Unfortunately Da11y, yours is a known issue right now where background images are converted to a lower resolution, allegedly to save on processing power! So a large image doesn't have to be rendered every time. I could see they woul;d put a cap on the image size, but not limiting it to less than the screens resolution! There is a thread about this somewhere. I'll try to dig it out. :)
[Touch HD General] Da11y:
Cheers ClownShoes :)

I find it kinda of silly that this restriction is in place. The Touch HD has got an

amazing screen and not being able to set wallpapers in the normal high-res

defies the point.

I hate having low-res wallpapers so at the time being have no option but to use

the default wallpaper :mad:
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
To be honest I sort of thought this and I had corrected my problem beforehand. Just wasn't sure if Da11y's problem was related and I knew someone like yourself would correct me anyhow
[Touch HD General] 0verseer:
Im confused about this very same thing, it somehow converts the image to lower resolution (dpi). Isnt there some registry entry that can be manipulated to disable this "feature"?

The phone has more then enough power to render a wallpaper, why else call it HD if it isnt even able to render a simple wallpaper properly... :mad:
[Touch HD General] Da11y:
I know what you mean 0verseer. This problem is very annoying as all my

high-res wallpapers are coming out proper sh*t on my Touch HD when set

to wallpaper.

I tried what you said as well Fallen Spartan but it made no difference.

You would think HTC would provide an option to enable/disable high-res

wallpapers :mad:
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
What, you mean HTC actually providing the solution to something!!:eek:

Think you may be waiting a while!
[Touch HD General] Da11y:
LOL :D

As much as I love my Touch HD, there's so many little things that really

p*ss me off with it.

This is just one of the few. Hopefully someone comes up with a reg hack

or something that will disable wallpapers from turning low-res.
[Touch HD General] ClownShoes:
I found that link guys http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=447785&highlight=wallpaper+lo+res

It appears it's a touchflo issue and a limitation of the way the graphics engine works.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] luna10251025:
help! thank you! can not boot, not into three colors,无法开机，无法进三色，只有黄色指示灯亮

Prior to the use of the task 2a command mtty cleared SPL, OS, and Splash, now can not open the machine, three colors also could not enter, and now the only yellow power lights, before the brush-off hardspl "olipof", are my Radio 1.27.12.17

Hope you help me! Thanks

之前使用了mtty的task 2a指令清除了SPL，OS和Splash，现在开不了机了，三色也进不了了，现在只有黄色电源灯亮，之前刷过hardspl"olipof",我的无线是1.27.12.17

望高手帮帮我吧！谢谢
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wbqssc:
english ?you do!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Syd159:
Something like this?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=423486
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
More like this : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=394584 (Post any problems here)

Oh and...

NEVER task 2a a Kaiser unless you know why you are doing it.

Thread Closed.

Ta

Dave
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] myxXx:
Helo im from asia in the phillipines,, and for qouite a while im using my xda 2

[htc_himalaya] my problem is that my precious hima's housing, is already faded and quite a lot of scratches on, for xda 2 users in the phillipines, specially in bulacan, ahm were could i find a brand new housing

[if there would be] in manila or somewere,, where could i get one, and how much would it be,?

And an0ther one? Is there any video or any sort of guide on how to disasemble xda 2 housing? Coz if ever i wont find any new housing im planning to buz any spray paint? And gonna paint it, my himas housing?, any help would be a big tnx,
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] ferdiebaq:
Log on to airfagev.com and go to forums. look for the thread about accessories or look for member named artic. he sells accessories for xdaII. pick up is usually in an LRT station that both of you agree upon. Last time I saw list price if from 1,800 to 2,000. For the instructions on how to replace, there is a technical manual for the xdaII that you can download from the internet. Can't remember where I got it just search for it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] oldhouse:
Is anyone able to upload such rom?

I would like to keep original rom as a backup.

Thank you
[XPERIA X1 General] thelucius:
Hi,

I'm not sure who of you is familiar with the GPU accelerated video encoding, but both nVidia and ATi have some tools about that. As an owner of nVidia 8800GT video card I tried the Badaboom Video Converter and it works as a charm. I get like 120fps transcoding a 720p x264 mkv video to 640x360 mp4 h264 in the right format for X1's windows media player.

Of course when playing the converted video on WMP it is hardware accelerated by the videocard of X1, so the playback is very smooth.

In case you own some GeForce 8xxx, 9xxx, gtx 2xx VGA, you can download the trial version of the converter and test it for your own.:

http://www.nvidia.com/content/graphicsplus/us/download.asp

It works much faster than the HTC Video converter. I can tell that my 8800GT is roughly like 3 times faster for transcoding video than my Core 2 Quad Q9550 CPU.
[XPERIA X1 General] cemetry:
I know Badaboom and have used it till 2 or 3 months.

Badaboom isn't really much faster than different encoders like SUPER. The HTC video converter brings much more quality because there is 2 Pass Encoding in using.

cemetry
[XPERIA X1 General] thelucius:
Yep, you are right about the 2 Pass encoding by the HTC Encoder, but I can't really see any difference for the same kbps on my X1. In theory there should be, practically it's barely noticeable on such display like the X1's.

I haven't tested SUPER, but if it's not GPU accelerated it should be 2-3 times slower at least than the GPU accelerated encoder, and this is with fast CPU.

Did you use Badaboom with GPU acceleration? On which card? I'm curious how will one GTX 280 compare to the transcoding speed of an old 8800GT.
[XPERIA X1 General] Mark A Cilenti:
I would like to try this video converter, but your Link to badaboom doesnt work

Edit googled it, found it, http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_badaboom_downloads.html

Have you experimented with optimal bitrate, and which device selection is best for the X1 ?