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[G1 Apps and Games] MontAlbert:
YEAH - I was using power percentage on the dock before he changed the way widgets worked...

I lvoe that it is easy to make your own themes using dxtop as well.... i just ported over the Manup Dude cupcake theme..... looks awesome....
[G1 Apps and Games] likal:
purchased dxtop need to update

Hi everyone,

I bought dxtop directly from their website. at the time this app was not (or not available) on the market. So now I have to download and reinstall every new update from the website.

I was wondering if it can show as purchased on the market. I could download and install directly from the market then.

Cheers
[G1 Apps and Games] MontAlbert:
unfortunately no. all i do is wait until atrackdog tells me there is a new update then DL that update and install myself.
[G1 Apps and Games] likal:
too bad, Thanks for the quick reply
[G1 Apps and Games] 4thephil:
Is it just me, or is dxtop slow? :( It is BY FAR my favorite home replacement app, but it's just too slow. I love the diamond layout, best I've seen - easy access to all screens from all screens. I love the dock bar/app tray. But its laggy. Even on a wipe and clean install with rooted Cyanogen Mod, no other apps, it's laggy swiping to other screens. Serious question - how many beers would it take to fix this, or to create a FAST version, with just diamond layout + app tray??
[G1 Apps and Games] nolageek:
I have no problem with lag whatsoever. I don't use any widgets though. Do you use any widgets? I honestly can't use my phone without dxTop. Love it.
[G1 Apps and Games] suprajztwenty:
hes right, widgets slow things down quite a bit for me too. i only use the flip clock/weather widget and dont have any real problems. maybe its time to delete some apps, messages, clear cache...basic maint, should be obvious when your phone starts getting slow
[G1 Apps and Games] 4thephil:
I have maybe 3 apps installed, and 1 widget (flip clock weather one) with 5 other shortcuts, plus the google search. I click home, it takes upwards of 5 seconds to load the home screen, the screen "catches" when swiping to another screen, and when I open up my all apps tray, it says "loading" and takes up to 5 seconds to load that.
[G1 Apps and Games] Ryanmo5:
Get a select few people on here to buy and test it for you or a few friends if they have g1. I'm sure if you have used it already alot like you said you should be ok in market, but i hear what your saying. If i were you i would wait till you are completely satisfied and confident about its release.
[G1 Apps and Games] Henchman:
doesn't work at all for me.

Is it because I have a custom theme?
[G1 Apps and Games] Gimpeh:
Hey, I wouldnt mind being one of those select testers! I can promise you I'm gonna buy this product as it is!
[G1 Apps and Games] TheMasterBaron:
It shouldn't be becuase of a theme. Can you provide more details? What Firmware are you running?
[G1 Apps and Games] Phromik:
Yeah, themes wouldn't/can't interfere with this, as it uses it's own assets.

Also, I, if you haven't noticed, tested the demo quite a bit, and found a lot of bugs :P And I have already purchased the full version, and have been using it all day, with no problems yet. ;)

( Just fyi: I have been beta testing many types of software/hardware/etc for years. Just to help with credability a bit :P )
[G1 Apps and Games] Henchman:
jf 1.43 rc33

Hmm, I wonder if the app walldate has anything to do with it.
[G1 Apps and Games] AsaSpades:
Can someone answer my question b4 I buy it?
[G1 Apps and Games] nick_karstedt:
I 2nd that motion
[G1 Apps and Games] Phromik:
Yes, actually, that most likely would. Since they both change the home screen display.

If you buy it now, no OTA updates. Possibly in future updates or something, but not now. So just wait until monday.
[G1 Apps and Games] AsaSpades:
Ok figures thanks
[G1 Apps and Games] Henchman:
That wasn't it either.

I am runninhgs apps from the SD card.

Could that be it?
[G1 Apps and Games] brianb7590:
I just downloaded this and i love it! it is great! great work! i think i might have found a bug.:eek:

i don't think that this is very clear, but here goes nothing...:rolleyes:

so, i click the tab for the running processes, and lets say i wanted to navigate to one of them using the trackball, then it doesn't let me, it resets back to the tab and i cannot scroll to the programs.:confused:
[G1 Apps and Games] AsaSpades:
Yea it doesnt work for me either, it resets every like 2 seconds
[G1 Apps and Games] TheMasterBaron:
Ahh, it refreshes every 2 seconds to make sure it's up to date. I'll make a note to fix it.
[G1 Apps and Games] brianb7590:
Sounds good man, thanks, Great App man.:D
[G1 Apps and Games] Datruesurfer:
FINALLY! As soon as this app hits the market, I'll happily buy it.
[G1 Apps and Games] santaninja:
i have the apk installed and i was running it and got tired of clicking witch home you want so i clicked the stock home screen, thinking there most be a app to open to get back in to the dxtop home screen, so how do i get back in to it?
[G1 Apps and Games] TheMasterBaron:
Can you open the shell and type:

su

logcat *:E

Leave the shell open and try to run dxTop. It should dump the error.

Settings->Applications->Manager Applications->Home->Clear Defaults
[G1 Apps and Games] MontAlbert:
Just to make sure, before I buy it, will you keep a record of who buys directly from you and when you update it notify these people and provide the update for them? Can't be that ahrd to make a email contact list of those of us buying from website?

Thanks for a great app.
[G1 Apps and Games] nolageek:
Um, press home screen again? If you selected "use this as default" then you'll have to uninstall dx and re-install.
[G1 Apps and Games] Gimpeh:
I'm really quite excited for this application. Seeing what can be achieved makes me anticipate what we will begin to see in the coming days and weeks from other gifted developers such as Baron. This truly feels like christmas for me.
[G1 Apps and Games] Henchman:
Well, there's a whole list of errors. But one of the first errorts refers to an error in the XML line #49. if that helps.
[G1 Apps and Games] apfroggy0408:
I'll definitely chime in when themes are supported!
[G1 Apps and Games] Phromik:
I already reported that bug in the other thread, you must have missed it. Whatever, you know now :P
[G1 Apps and Games] TheMasterBaron:
You're running the demo version right? Download latest version and try again. Look for the last "Caused By" in the list of errors.
[G1 Apps and Games] fdorr:
Hi, i just bougth the app, i love it, did you get my email for the updates?

Thanks for the app, and one thing more, in the seccond tab i get lost of icons, its that ok? or only i should see the latest app and de currents?
[G1 Apps and Games] Rafase282:
Can anyone tell me what are the differences between the demo and the paid version? How can I updtae if I buy it off the market? Will I be able to put it as default home withotu problems?
[G1 Apps and Games] tehseano:
Did you ever add a way to make it the default home screen, and if it crashes, it reverts back to Home, or at least clears the default?
[G1 Apps and Games] pablizzo:
I'm very excited for this app, loved the demo and can't wait for its release on the market. Great job!
[G1 Apps and Games] ThrashWolf:
My demo version's force closing every time I try to use it, after using logcat, here's the last "caused by" error:

Caused by: android.view.InflateException: Binary XML file line #40: Error inflating class java.lan.reflect.Constructor

Hope you can suss what's up as I really want to be able to run and try out the demo before I go for the full app.

Cheers-

Thrash
[G1 Apps and Games] TheMasterBaron:
I didn't get your email, but I will notify everyone who signed up for emails when purchasing when there is an update. You should be able to redownload the app with the link sent to you.

The second tab shows recent apps (no limit), running apps, and background apps.

The demo has the annoying wait message and quits running after 5 minutes.

If dxTop crashes, the next time it opens a recovery tool that lets you try again or run the old launcher.

Sorry, it only works with firmware 1.1
[G1 Apps and Games] TheMasterBaron:
Looks like a possible release to market today! I haven't heard of any show stoppers.
[G1 Apps and Games] AsaSpades:
You should, I dont wanna wait anymore
[G1 Apps and Games] UnkzDomain:
do it do it do it!
[G1 Apps and Games] Gimpeh:
Yes Yes Yes!!!!! I Love You!
[G1 Apps and Games] ThrashWolf:
Firmware 1.1?

(Apologies for my noobishness)

Also, does that go for the full app as well?
[G1 Apps and Games] kylebrodeur:
link broken
[G1 Apps and Games] rickyteddyb:
OOO yes

Lets get this to the masses. hopefully themers can keep up.:D
[G1 Apps and Games] Bhogan123:
This is probably the only paid app i will be getting as soon as i get my G1 in the mail.

Kudos to you for devloping such a product :)
[G1 Apps and Games] TheMasterBaron:
To find out, while on the home screen, press the menu button, then select Settings. At the bottom of the next screen choose "About Phone" and scroll down to "Firmware Version". If it's not 1.1, then dxTop, including the full app will not work.
[G1 Apps and Games] TheMasterBaron:
OK, I published it. I don't know how long it takes to actually hit the market.

Thanks to everyone for their the support!
[G1 Apps and Games] Beast84:
Haha quickness! Its already there! Thanks I was waiting!
[G1 Apps and Games] Henchman:
Updated version works fine now.
[G1 Apps and Games] kylebrodeur:
Your website is down...I cannot get to the documentation about widgets
[G1 Apps and Games] dirr:
you should add your website to the description, i'm sure many people will be vary curious.
[G1 Apps and Games] nick_karstedt:
Awesome. Purchased. Thanks.
[G1 Apps and Games] TheMasterBaron:
I didn't have the http:// in front of my website when I first posted it. It's working now if you re-launch the market

Thanks, the website is listed below the description in the "about the developer" section.
[G1 Apps and Games] dirr:
yeah, i never look down there mybad
[G1 Apps and Games] grazy:
Yoz.... bought my first apps off the Market ^^;

Hope will get updates from you.
[G1 Apps and Games] Beast84:
Is it just me or does this not work well with bettercut? I tried adding stuff & it all goes to the top screen. Then I tried renaming them & they went back to the top screen? I just dragged them across screens to place them where I want them. Just curious if its just me or if anyone else is experiencing this
[G1 Apps and Games] rickyteddyb:
baron, should i uninstall my theme before installing.
[G1 Apps and Games] TheMasterBaron:
No, should work just fine with a theme installed.
[G1 Apps and Games] smojo:
Have you seen anyone doing a widget yet for it? I'm excited to test out some more widgets.
[G1 Apps and Games] dom2684:
just saw it on the market but if he has an update will we be able to update since we bought it from the site?

casuse it gave me the option to buy instead of uninstall
[G1 Apps and Games] Gimpeh:
Yeah is anyone make any apps right now? I sure hope so! The memory widget alone is awesome. Wonder if it effects battery life?
[G1 Apps and Games] Rafase282:
How do I get that memory widget?
[G1 Apps and Games] smojo:
Here is the apk for the memory widget. http://dxtop.wikidot.com/local--files/widget-howto/MemoryMonitorWidget.apk
[G1 Apps and Games] TheMasterBaron:
I put it on the market. Search for "dxTop"
[G1 Apps and Games] dom2684:
how are we gonna be able to update if we bought it from ur site?
[G1 Apps and Games] TheMasterBaron:
You should get a new link when I do an update to download a new version. I plan on eventually implementing a auto-update feature.
[G1 Apps and Games] Abolfazl:
Only thing that happens is that my clock reverted back to the stock one and the icons you pull to bring up the app is back to what it was before.

dxtop isnt too great.. it has an excellent idea but the workings of it are mediocre. when you go go left and back right you end up on a different screen. I would recommend allowing the user choose what dimensions the home screen is (how many panels) and also have a user interface so the user can choose. Here is an example of a cool home screen although it may hard to follow.

It doesn't have to be 3x2 but something of that sort would be cool
[G1 Apps and Games] tehseano:
Aye, I agree with Abolfazl, I mean I like being able to get to any screen in 1 swift move, however i still like the idea of dynamic positions of the screens.

Also, if anyone can answer this for me, I plan on downloading this soon, does the launcher picture derive from the one on your phone yet, or does it still use the default image for both launcher tabs? And how about the status bar, is that default too? (IE does it completely overwrite a theme (from desktop view))
[G1 Apps and Games] Gimpeh:
I'd be happy with just one more home screen ABOVE the MAIN home screen. Then this app would be perfect in my sense. But I agree the way the screen slides is awkward.
[G1 Apps and Games] Phromik:
The tabs and clock (along with a few others) are in the drawable assets for dxTop, so it won't overwrite the there's ones, but bring up it's own instead. Themeing apparently in a future release.
[G1 Apps and Games] cente:
not working...

Hy

I've downloaded the demo version and installed using apps installer.

After installation is done, I click Home but It doesn't start at all

jf 1.42 rc33

any ideaS?
[G1 Apps and Games] Darkrift:
I purchased this tonight and its pretty good. One major thing that is almost a deal breaker is what was mentioned above about the 4 screens and their positioning. I cannot stand trying to find a specific screen and find myself randomly swiping every direction. Make it at least 5 screens to fid this, 6 would be best.

5 screens:

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6 screens (as posted in the diagram above):

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[G1 Apps and Games] MontAlbert:
yeah- i got used to the 4screens after a day or so. it grows on you. But the option to increase number of screens would be good- not so sure about 6 but the 5 in a cross would be nice. BUT don't get me wrong i am extremely happy with 4!!!!! awesome app- now we just need a decent weather widget!!

Baron, is it possible to have the extra number of screens in an option in future releases or is that not possible with coding etc?
[G1 Apps and Games] Gimpeh:
I definitly want the five screens in a cross.
[G1 Apps and Games] Gimpeh:
Just reading through some of he comments on the DXtop within market and many of your fans are also asking for five screens.
[G1 Apps and Games] zoetrope:
There's a reason for the 4 screen layout, and it takes a little while to get used to. However, there's also a zen like approach to the screen positioning that I don't think people understand. The whole approach to positioning is that you never have to swipe more than once to get to any of the four screens. No matter what screen you're on, there's always a left, right, top, and bottom screen. And it takes just one swipe to get to any one of them. I don't care if there is an option for a 5th, 6th or more screens, but any addition to the current layout and it destroys the whole approach to the just one swipe simplicity and elegance. If there are other screens added in future releases, please make them an option and leave the 4 screen layout by default.
[G1 Apps and Games] claborn:
i played with the demo yesterday and i dunno why people want 6 screens?? it'd take you all day swiping to get to them.. and what would you fill 6 screens with??

i for one like the 4 screen-one swipe method. when i need to pull out my phone and get to something quick, i sure as hell dont want to be swiping through 6 screens. thats just impractical. people will get used to the 4 screen layout, i'd concentrate on more widgets first. go widgets!!
[G1 Apps and Games] smojo:
I'm happy with the 4 screen setup. One swipe for each screen. But of course I think the best thing to do is to give users options. So in future versions try and work in a way for the user to add more screens. Right now I don't see a use for more than 4 screens. Once more widgets get developed your screens will start filling up pretty quick though.
[G1 Apps and Games] nolageek:
OMG IMHO 5 screens in a cross would suck, so would 6. (talk about forgetting where you are in the grid!)

Add my vote in the box to please keep it the way it is now. After a hour of using it you really start to appreciate the simplicity of dxtop and never being more than one swipe away from every screen.

The only way I think more than 4 pages would work is if you had a mini grid in the corner that you could pick from.
[G1 Apps and Games] Abolfazl:
i understand the purpose but the next version should have the user choose the layout.
[G1 Apps and Games] Darkrift:
I hear everyone saying there is a "zen approach" to the screen layout but I must be unzen. I am not catching on to the pattern and always have to swipe 3-5 times to find a specific screen. Could someone please do a little diagram for those of us (or just me) who are not catching on?
[G1 Apps and Games] UnkzDomain:
It's not really complicated, just kinda unwieldy. How it works is that there is no middle screen. UP always points to the same screen, DOWN always points to the same screen and so do LEFT and RIGHT.

it's kinda like

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(I used the code tags to make the diagram monospaced)
[G1 Apps and Games] Gimpeh:
Yeah I require a middle home screen. Just what I am use to.
[G1 Apps and Games] MontAlbert:
i liked it- got used to it fairly quickly and will be buying this tonight from the website- good on him for making it available from his website.

i waited to see if anyone had any buggy problems with it- i had problems when i uninstalled the demo- had to do a wipe. i think the issue has something to do with leaving the icons on the 4th page when uninstalling.
[G1 Apps and Games] zoetrope:
Ok, its hard to explain without the use of four diagrams. The red panel represents the current starting panel, the green panels are available panels you can swipe to in any one of three directions depending upon your starting panel. There's always a left, right, top, and bottom panel. Or think of it this way, two horizontal panels, two vertical panels. Each panel can be reached from any starting panel in one swipe. Refer to diagrams below:
[G1 Apps and Games] nolageek:
run dxTop for an hour... you'll have an epiphany and will realize it's pretty amazing just how it is.

Pretty much everyone has an aneurysm about fourteen seconds after they first start using it.

Then you get it and you're all "wow, that's freaking brilliant."
[G1 Apps and Games] Gimpeh:
I've been using it since the first version he released to the public via his website. I still like it, this is just my opinion on how it can be improved.
[G1 Apps and Games] nolageek:
In this case it's akin to asking Apple to add a Start menu to OS XI. :)

From what I gather, the philosophy behind dxtop is that no page is more than one swipe from any other.
[G1 Apps and Games] Gimpeh:
I don't believe it is quite that complicated. It's obvious that it's not just me that wishes to have this option by looking through the market notes. I think having a toggle to configure your screens would suit both sides.
[G1 Apps and Games] tanner2007:
Good app but needs improvment

as i posted here

http://dxtop.wikidot.com/forum/t-135149/needs-fixing-closed-not-a-bug

"I have 1 picture frame in middle of each of my 4 screens

each pic frame has pic of numbers labeled 1-4

(can say where the numbers are in each of the four screens since cant tell but here goes)

But heres how its messed up

Im on screen 1 moved to left and was on screen 3

moved up and hit screen 2 (BUT) then moved back down and was on screen 4

so while on screen for moved to the right and was back on screen 1 then moved back to the left and i was on screen 3 moved to the right and was on screen 1 moved up and was on screen 2 moved down was on screen 4 moved to left was on screen 3 moved back right was on screen 1

as you can see this makes no scene and it needs to be fixed id rather it be

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then a diamond and make sure it works no more diagnol

im repurchase this when I know its fixed"
[G1 Apps and Games] TheMasterBaron:
Thanks for putting the effort in to make these. Do you mind if I use them on my site>

Seems a big enough demand to warrent me looking into adding this as an option ( Off by default :) )
[G1 Apps and Games] TheMasterBaron:
I think the problem is that your worried about what screen you were just on instead of the screen you want to go to. Trying to go back to a screen is the wrong way of looking at it. It's designed to jump to a screen that you want, not to navigate around like a small window on a bigger desktop.
[G1 Apps and Games] Gimpeh:
Thank you so much! I cannot wait to see what other projects come down the pipeline from you.
[G1 Apps and Games] claborn:
Baron, the 4 screen is perfect!! don't touch it! Yes, the masses demand 6 screens but history says the general public doesn't know what's good for them. hence fast food and commercial music lol. very good app as is!!
[G1 Apps and Games] MontAlbert:
a bit confusing but i think i can see what you are saying- that is how it is meant to be- see the diagrams on the previous page- they explain it better- the more you use this app the better you understand it. I love the fact that each screen is only a single swipe away at any time. i think it is genius.
[G1 Apps and Games] Gimpeh:
He said hes gonna make it as an option so your still gonna have your 4 screens.
[G1 Apps and Games] tanner2007:
Can you explain future its kinda confussing
[G1 Apps and Games] MontAlbert:
maybe a way for you to think about it is not where the screens are but a swipe has a function- like a shortcut- a swipe to the leftmoves to the screen on the right, a swipe to the right move to the screen on the left and swipe up to move to the bottom/extra screen and swipe down to move to the main centre/home screen (now the top screen).

Kind of like how ftouchflo has with WM. you can set certain actions to mean certain things.
[G1 Apps and Games] TheMasterBaron:
I'll tell you tomorrow :D
[G1 Apps and Games] TheMasterBaron:
OK, found a bug that crashes the original home screen if you drag-n-drop an icon to the bottom screen. Will be releasing an update tonight. If you purchased through the website, you should be getting a new email with the download link.
[G1 Apps and Games] zoetrope:
Absolutely, take them and use them on your site in whatever way you see fit.
[G1 Apps and Games] HOGWILD:
i have downloaded the app i have no problems plus i have custom theme code name ninja the only thing i saw that change was the clock that went back to default..thats it thank s for the app keep it up
[G1 Apps and Games] nolageek:
I think it's a bad idea. That's how great snappy running apps become bloated and slow, IMHO. Do one thing and do it well. :)

Baron.. maybe have a separate app with 5/6 page cross, grid, polyhedron etc..pattern? Make it like a wheel so you can keep going round and round 1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,etc... :)

Just an idea.. two apps to sell -- mo money, mo money, mo money. :)
[G1 Apps and Games] MontAlbert:
maybe that's what happened with me and the demo? When i uninstalled that demo the orig home screen wouldn't open- force close loop.

thanks
[G1 Apps and Games] MontAlbert:
thats a good idea.....keep it simple. have demos for each i reckon though so people can try each out and see which they prefer....
[G1 Apps and Games] Gimpeh:
Then my $4 would have been wasted and I'd have to purchase another version. I don't see that being a good business plan.
[G1 Apps and Games] golferguy17:
I think something like this would be cool

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And have it like a big wheel... I know it defeats the purpose of this app but as an option it would be fun to have!
[G1 Apps and Games] Gimpeh:
I like options.
[G1 Apps and Games] Henchman:
I think it is fine the way it is.

And is it me, or does it run smoother than the stock Home app?
[G1 Apps and Games] tanner2007:
I like it but not the way it is...As i said in an earlier post why...something like a real 4 thing square would be fine but if u do chance it have an option of how for everyone can be happy