yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] redmercury:
It's working!!!!!!!

Finally got it to work, I was really close to smashing the phone into a million pieces. First I was using Parley P's newest ROM and it didn't work, so I flashed Abusalza's v19 lite because it was working in that ROM for rr69. I followed his instructions on post #42 and it worked. I have to say that it did something different than before, when I pressed the "Start Recording" on the phone menu it made a sound and a red dot showed on the dialer next to the contact and phone number. I guess if that doesn't happen it ain't gonna work.:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] freewind29:
seems the radio do the trick, I change the radio to rr66 suggested, and now the audio note is recording both sides voices now, thanks for your great work, rr66 and Jorra!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] nick_martin:
Does it work on Wizard?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] BombaMyte:
This is excellent. I've been looking for something like this for quite some time now. Good work you guys!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mskip:
Tested on HyperDragonIV 4th Feb 2009 using Radio 1.59.46.12 (new) and Vito Audio Notes Touch v1.03. Runs PERFECTLY!!

Had a bit of trouble with not seeing the "Start Recording" option in the dialer menu when using the drivers only for ICR but after uninstalling that and installing the full ICRQVGA.cab it appeared and everything went to plan.

Thanks for posting, been looking for a way to record both sides since getting my old Hermes years ago :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] asfoor:
Mskip... Do you encounter a delay in hearing the other side right after the call is answered? I removed ICR for that issue and it made me flash another ROM just to test if ICR was the culprit. I used Resco Recorder, and enabled Auto record all Calls, and thats when the delay started. I like the record feature, only if it works without the call delay.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mskip:
I cant say I noticed any delay at all after the call is answered and I did some quite thorough testing as I have been after 2 way recording for years on my HTC phones for business purposes. Works perfectly as far as I can see.

This is the install method I would recommend:

1. Install the ICRQVGA cab to your device memory and do the soft reset after.

DONT INSTALL ANY SECONDARY RECORDING PROGRAM YET!!

2. When the phone restarts make a test call to your customer services line or an automated line, when it picks up goto the dialer menu in the bottom right corner and click start rescording. If you dont see the Start Recording option then come out and just install ICRQVGA again (that fixed it for me).

3. When you select start recording AFTER a call has been established then you should see a red circle in the call screen next to the persons name.

4. Let it record for about 15 seconds and then go back into the dialer menu and select stop recording. The red circle in the screen will then disapear and you can end the call (after I ended the call I heard 2 beeps which are linked to ICR).

5. Goto Start, Programs, ICR and you should see the call you just made in the list.

6. Click on the Recording to start playing it and make sure it recorded the incoming part of the call.

7. If it worked you can just leave it at that and use ICR to record your conversations as it works just fine by itself (you just need to start recording manually from the phone menu after the call has been established). The are options in ICR to record in AMR or WAV format and to record to the device or Storage Card (it saves the file to My Documents, Recording).

Alternatively you can then install a secondary recording program such as Resco Audio Recorder or Vito Audio Notes (standard or touch version), then set the option for auto record to capture all conversations.

I can say that it works fine with all the Vito versions, I always used to have trouble with Resco Recorder as it used to freeze my phone up so I would tend to recommend Vito Audio Notes. A secondary program is ONLY needed if you want to Auto Record Conversations or if you want to record in mp3 format (as ICR doesnt support this).

Asfoor, I would try it with just ICR first to see if you get the delay and if its fine then go ahead and install your secondary recorder if you wish. That way you can narrow down where the delay comes from (if you get one that is).

Overall ICR works great and I would definitely recommend it for 2 way recording :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] pajaa:
Hi

My config is:

3.34.721.2

1.70.19.09

25.83.40.02H

tried both cabs without succes, can't even get in the bottom right under menu "start rescording" (of course when connection was established).

Starting ICR get error:

The file 'ICR' cannot be

opened. Either it is not

signed with a trusted

certificate, or one of its

components cannot be

found. If the problem

persist, try reinstalling or

restoring this file

Tried to reinstaling the cab, same results.

Regards
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] tauriq:
Maybe a rom issue ?!

Hey M., thanx for the effort, but for me is the very same thing (identical symptomps of "pajaa" & "asfoor".. obviously there's something we're missing !!

Regards.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] redbandana:
installed and works fine, just have the basic voice recorder installed on my rom and no other audio recorder.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] MACkjam:
I have tried everything but still get "ICR is not a valid pocket pc application"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] redbandana:
i really do not understand why the installation instructions are so complicated.

I just installed the cab file>called my friend>and started recording our conversation. During playback I did not get any sound because my device was on vibrate. Switched it to ring and called him back worked like a charm.

Playback does sound a bit scratchy/static.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] punkhawaiian:
No right or left menu button for record

Does anyone have a fix for not being able to see the record key? I have tried different roms, radios and still nada.

Romeos 4.888.Fire

1.70.19.09
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mskip:
Try installing the QVGA version first thing AFTER a fresh reset. Since it seems to replace some core dlls it may not overwrite them if they have been used since you last reset the phone.

All I can say is that it does work because its recording both sides of my conversations perfectly since I installed it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mart15:
for me the same.

it doesn't work altough i did everything according to the instruction...

i just can't see "start recording" option...

tried on different radios
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mulky:
same response as mine,

have tried to install this on my LG KS20 (same qualcomm processor as kaiser) with spocky's WM6.1 KisS20.4 Rom (5.2.20755) WWE. it installed successfully, but sadly it doesn't work (no option for 'Start Recording' on the dial soft key menu), and if i run the ICR program it returns the same error as above

but it's uninstallable
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] speeddevil:
Same for me. I get the

The file 'ICR' cannot be

opened. Either it is not

signed with a trusted

certificate, or one of its

components cannot be

found. If the problem

persist, try reinstalling or

restoring this file.

Followed the simple instructions, No go. I have the At&t Tilt.

btw I have

r 1.65.21.18
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] nod_lesh:
putting my two cents in

Just to confirm, this program works GREAT.

I installed it and am using audio recorder 4 (automatic record to mp3 to a designated folder).

No need to press record with it, just records all calls and no beeps or problems, both sides are clear and crisp I'm on an Att Tilt (aka HTC TYTN II or Kaiser).

:) :) :) :) :) ROCKING!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] punkhawaiian:
Please list your phone specs because I am thinking maybe it's a rom or spl problem that others are having.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mskip:
All my specs are in my sig and it works fine on my phone :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] py2bl:
Just to inform: I always get:

"The file 'ICR' cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. If the problem persist, try reinstalling or restoring this file."

Tytn II - Rom 3.33.514.0 PTB (Brazilian Portuguese) - ROM 07/08/08 - Radio 1.65.26.02
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] redbandana:
I am going to take a wild stab and make the assumption that some users may be experiecing difficulties because they do not have framework 3.5 installed...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] MACkjam:
I have 3.5 & stock rom, wm6.0. I have tried everything but no go. Still get ICR not a valid pocket pc aplication. I do not get the record call option on dialer. I can record calls with vito audio notes, but must use speaker phone to hear the other party. So I am disappointed. Looked so promising.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mskip:
I dont think it has anything to do with the Radio. More likely something missing from various Roms that are included with certain custom Roms. I have HyperDragonIV 4th Feb and it works fine with different Radios. Maybe HardSPL has some affect since its overwriting core files in the windows directory. If everyone posting can give the full spec of their device i.e. Rom, Radio, HardSPL, .NET Framework then maybe we can get some correlation of whats needed to install it properly.

Also try installing after a soft reset so that no system resources are being used that might interefere with it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Gismogadget:
Right! Complete noob questions here?

First off what software do I need to install this to my TyTn II phone? As it doesn't seem to have a setup.exe or can I just copy the extracted cab to a ?certain folder on my phone.

I can only see (remove programs in my phone not Add?)

Is there any other pointers I need to know?

running:

WM6.5

Rom:3.29.206.0 WWE

Radio: 1.65.16.25

Cheers Gismogadget
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mskip:
Wow that is a complete noob question lol. cab files are basically files that you copy to your phone (main memory or storage card) and run from a file explorer (file explorer, total commander). You will then be asked whether you want to install to device memory or storage card and will install the program to your phone. Usually system programs that you want to run all the time such as dialers, interfaces and other such programs (like icr) want to be installed to device memory. Other programs such as games or programs that you dont run very often can be installed to storage card.

Copy the icr cab file to your storage card if you have one and install it to your device memory (since it integrates itself into the dialer).

Hope that helped :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] punkhawaiian:
Well I can confirm that it works. I upgraded my rom, spl and radio to mskip's versions and it installed like a charm so its definitely a rom thing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Gismogadget:
Thanks installation worked a treat, but doesn't work, must be missing something? but having fun here reading, installing cabs etc, roms and radios above my head atm. once i gain a bit more knowledge maybe i'll get it working (luv the concept of recording):D

btw error correction of my previous post WM6.1 :)

Cheers Gismogadget
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] khaeid:
Not working for ROM 1.81.415.4 Radio 1.27.15.32

Not working for ROM 1.81.415.4 Radio 1.27.15.32

i tryed searching for newr compatible radio for my rom but with no luck, it seems this is the newer radio possible for my rom
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] freewind29:
seems not working with the 21176 build and 21109 build.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] nick_martin:
I found a new way, u don't need to install ICR, just edit the registry key:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\AUDIOGAIN]

"AUDIO_DEBUG_FLAG"=dword:00000040

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL]

"RingingAddressId"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\WaveDev]

"VocRecPath"=dword:00000002

And then use vito audio note to record, it's very clear.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] corepda:
on build 21109 its working. I am using Garmins naked, earlier it didn't worked on Kareems rev rom :(

now its working like charm on Garmin v10 naked. good luck guyz. Use ICRQVGA.cab.

thanks for trick nick, will surely gonna try it soon.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mskip:
Have to HArd Reset to lose the icr drivers and test this out. I will report back later. If it works then great job :D

Just out of curiosity did you install icr before you tried this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] alanxzg:
thanks vrey much!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] freewind29:
Thanks for your effort! Does it work for all builds?

Edit:

Just flashed to a 21176 build, but couldn't find these reg.keys, so I created these keys in the directories, soft reset, and it works! Maybe someone can try other builds.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] tonywalker:
I had the same problem that some of you.

The option " Start Recordind " doesn't appear in the menu.

The solution that I found is to edit the key of the registry:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\ICR\ICRrecording

and change DWORD value from 0 to 1.

Now it works nicely, :D however the sound of the recording is very low. :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] jorra:
:eek:

If this is true... Good find... :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] nick_martin:
I am winzard with 6.1, used the registry key method, works excellent for me. the voice is very good, someone said the voice is low, maybe should doulbe check the value and key you just add.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] nick_martin:
The sound of the recording is very clear for me, maybe u should doulbe check the value and key you just add, and u should uninstall ICR and reset it. That's what I did anyway. I tried ICR, it didn't work on my wizard.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mskip:
Works great :D I hope you dont mind but I made a cab for easy installation. Just install to device memory and soft reset. I have tested it with the standard voice recorder and vito audio notes and it works fine on both with very clear speech. Cab attached.

Just to clarify ICR is not needed and it shud work with any dialer.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] bullseye69:
Has anyone had this problem i get vito audio notes to record auto, but out of a 60 min call it only records 20 min with of course with the conversation skiping through missing huge chunk.

also how do u uninstall i see nothing in tthe remove programs. guess i will have to use my backup.

rom-hyperdragon III jan 13

thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] freewind29:
Thanks, you make life lot more easy!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mart15:
now it works like a charm.

thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mskip:
No need to thank me I just put the registry settings into a cab for easy installation :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] matrav:
low voice

this seems to work with Diamond, just low voice volume from other while mine is loud... any suggestion on how this could be fixed?

Thanks very much. :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mskip:
did u try the registry cab i posted? Post#84
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] GTX2009:
GREAT THREAD!

I was looking for this for a long time..... :D

I just have a question: I had a call this morning which duration was about 5 minutes. It was recording by default but when i hang up the call it was saying "memory full" and could not record the call.

I double checked my memory card (the voice notes are stored in memory card) which has 3GB free. That call was recorded for 1'30s and then stoped (total usage 1MB).

How can i fix this in order to NOT STOP the recording?

Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] GTX2009:
i think i've solved for now.... just changed the recording format from mp3 high quality into mp3 low quality and could record now 6' of conversation.... :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] khaeid:
still not working

still not working with any method

and still can't see the Start Recording button

mine is

Kaiser

WM 6.1

Rom 3.31.415.1 WWE

Radio 1.70.18.02

:(:(:(:confused::confused::confused::confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mskip:
Did you try the cab i made in the last page? Look *HERE*
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] GTX2009:
i selected to record all voice conversations, that solves the problem for not having the "start recording" button..

but... i still have an error everytime i get a call: audio notes message: "Sorry. Memory is full"......

I have about 3GB free on my storage card and 32MB on my device...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] nick_martin:
It's great for the beginners.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mskip:
Seems to work perfectly too, no need for icr or any third party programs to enable 2 side recording :D

If you dont mind me asking how did you figure it out or did you find it somewhere else? Im sure people have been looking at how to enable that function on this series for years lol. Good job by the way ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] nick_martin:
I wish I could figure it out by myself. I have been looking for this for ages. I found it on a chinese website---PDAFANS, there are some smart ppl over there.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mskip:
Hahaha yeah the chinese are a smart bunch :D Well good luck anyway you stumbled across the holy grail I have been trying to find a way of recording both sides for work purposes since I got my old hermes 3 years ago.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] speeddevil:
I have tried every method. none have worked. :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] k0l0r3k:
Which software allows you to start record automaticaly all voice conversation ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mskip:
What phone, Rom, Radio are you using?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mskip:
Vito Audio Notes allows you to automatically record all calls.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] GTX2009:
Yes that's correct. Vito audio Notes has the option to record ALL calls.

Though its very weird, sometimes i get 10min calls and it records 100% and other times i get like 2 min calls and it stops recording meanwhile (like 1 every 8 calls gets the memory full error)....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mskip:
never had that problem with the registry cab. Records everything and volume is really loud.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] speeddevil:
Here is what it says when I fire it up

r 1.65.21.18

G 25.88.40.05h

d 3.57.00.00

Its the At&t tilt.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] little pink:
I have tried your 2-way cab on my Elfin

Works like a charm, Thanks Thanks Thanks Thanks Thanks !!!!!!

Both voice are loud and clear !!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] khaeid:
Great

Great, it's working finally, but i have another problem

when i go to voice recording format i can't see any mp3 formats, only pcm which consumes a lot of memory, how come i don't have the mp3 format, and can anyone help me on how to install the driver so my kaiser would accept recording with it?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] jorra:
Try Vito Audionotes...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] jorra:
I already had these settings, wonder if this is exactly what the ICR does???
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] kumar754:
Work for me...

Works for me with default AT&T ROM + Vito Audio Notes + Registry Settings.

Recording in MP3 format, sound is load and clear.

Thanks to everyone !!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] nick_martin:
I don't think it's the same thing. I suggest you uninstall the ICR and softreset, then install the cab file, reset, you will be fine.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mskip:
Unfortunately some drivers in the ICR package are uninstallable. The only way to get rid of it is to Hard Reset and then im not even sure if its gone. I reflashed my Rom to get a clean OS to install the registry settings and it works perfectly :D Sound witht the registry settings are alott louder and clearer than with ICR.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mskip:
The registry entries in the ICR cab do not contain the registry settings that nick found. Theres no way they could have come from ICR lol. Maybe the fairies put them in your phone :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] khaeid:
isn't there a way to install mp3 recording option to WM6.1 so i can record in mp3 directly using built in windows mobile audio recording applications?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mskip:
No you need to install a 3rd party recording program.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] nick_martin:
I tried both the ICR, and uninstalled them. I didn't flash the rom, and use the registry, and works very good.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] appieappel:
it`s not working with rom vers. 1.56.404.6 radio vers. 1.27.12.32. how can i fix it

i have 2-way cab and vito
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] kejas:
Mskip,,,

Your cab file is working superb.. thanks thanks.

Where do this file save it self.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] nokiarish:
wm 6.5 not working

this trick was working fine for me till i upgraded my rom to 6.5.. can anyone help me in this regard. i do not want to go back to 6.1... anxiously waiting for a solution.....thanks

its working now when i tried installing MSKIP's cab......

thanks ...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mskip:
where does what file save itself?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Boss428man:
Will in call recording work on the Htc Vogue also?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mskip:
I dont know give it a try :)

Give the Registry Fix a go first then at least if it doesnt work you can uninstall it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Menneisyys:
To anyone that have had any success with true, real recording (read: not plain sound bleeding from the speaker to the mike):

Could you please post your results to http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=496303 in order to be able to collect all the working model & ROM & hack combos in a nicely formatted chart / list and not forcing users to read thru 50-60 page-long threads?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] nick_martin:
I think he means the cab file. For some phones, they delete it after installing, so if u wanna keep a copy, u have to download it again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] cktlcmd:
It did not work on my device either (X7510). I tried with the cab file by R69 and with the modified cab file. My ROM details are on my signature.

For everyone: I was able to uninstall both cab files by re-installing them again. The system asked me if I want to uninstall the file first, I pressed YES, then the system asked me again if I want to install it, I just press NO. This is the way I uninstall stuff that does not show on the uninstall list.

No need to Hard Reset or restore from backup.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mskip:
Did you try the registry fix?