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[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ymmp:
Hi,

I'm really sorry for asking, but after going through quite a lot of this forum, I still don't know what the consensus is for the best RTL support (without cursor in wrong place, etc). Is it Uniscribe or HebrewHD2 or HebKeyboard.cab or another?

It would really be great if someone who tried out all or most could present a list describing pros & cons of each one.

Thanks
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] itamar:
Hi,

Don't excuse yourself to ask. I don't know what the consensus is either but I use htcAddicts HD2 Hebrew Language (I think "HD2_HebrewEnabled_v1.0.cab"), BEIKS Arial font with Japanese and Hebrew and Exidler FingerKeyb for a Hebrew keyboard and it all works great. Succes, Itamar
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ymmp:
Hi Itamar,

Thanks for the reply. I went to HTC Addicts and saw a list of downloads, I'm assuming you are referring to "HD2_HebrewEnabled_v1.2" (the most recent version of that cab).

Which phone are you using it on? (I am using an unlocked Tilt2. Believe it or not, I left it for an N900 and N8 but I missed WinMo...)

Are you finding mixed text to be working correctly and that the cursor is in the right place (with Uniscribe, If I remember correctly had a problem that the cursor was in like a "mirror" position making it very difficult to select text or navigate through it).

Thanks

Yaakov
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] itamar:
Hi Ya'akov,

I am using it on a HTC HD2, a great phone that still runs WM 6.5 and I am certainly not jumping to anything else, I am very satisfied with this phone. Mixed text is working correctly, only viewing SMS messages shows the words in the wrong order when opening the SMS, not when previewing it, but still readable (letters are the correct way), writing a SMS is 100% ok.

Succes,

Itamar
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ymmp:
Itamar, Just wanted to report on my experience. I tried the hd2_hebrewenabled that you recommended and it worked similiarly to what I remembered in the Uniscribe with the cursor problem. I then tried the hebrewhd2 cab (Mobidiv) and it also had the cursor problem, but was good with leaving punctuation at the end of a sentence.

Then I was curious about a "notepad" app I saw in the Start menu, and that works perfectly fine, so I'm assuming the problems I'm having with Word & Phatnotes are bec. they are not treating the input as plain text.

I have not noticed any reverse text in SMS.

כל טוב
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] itamar:
Hi Ya'akov,

I did some quick testing in Word Mobile and notice also the problem with punctuation. However, I never use my phone for WORD files or serious typing so it is not a problem for me. I can send SMS messages and read the sidur file and other Hebrew texts from files and that is all I need. Could it be that changing the location or the language in the settings will help ?

Best regards,

Itamar
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ymmp:
Thanks for the suggestion, but since it is working fine in "Notepad", I have to assume that it is something about how those apps are relating to the text. Also, the bigger problem for me is the cursor not following the text properly, but rather in a "mirror" fashion (i.e. even though it is letting me type RTL the cursor stays at the right side and doesn't go with the text making it very difficult to select or edit text afterwards).

Does any cab not have this problem?

I did want to know what type of word suggestion/correction is possible with Hebrew input.

So far I have found that SPB Keyboard 4.1 which uses it's own system works with Hebrew (although in Full View it has same cursor problem). I thought I remembered that if I disable xT9 I would be able to get Word prediction in Hebrew with the WM engine (obviously I would have to build up dictionary over time) but not working as of yet.

As of now I've found the cursor problem mentioned in posts 630 & 638, although I think I saw it earlier in the thread also
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] nedfred5507:
Hebrew for Touch pro 2

Hi

I'm a newbe i would like to be able to read and write Hebrew for Touch pro 2

(not change any menu)

What files do i need to install (can you post a link)

(I tried installing Hebrew support only.cab file from the_dude

I get hebrew words but not RTL)

and I don't have any hebrew keyboard
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] itamar:
You can download the keyboard FingerKeyb2 which will give you Hebrew (and many other languages).

I am not sure what file you need exactly for hebrew support on your phone. I have a HTC HD2 and use HD2_HebrewEnabled_v1.0.cab. You can also try and find Arial-Unicode-PPC.exe which gives support for Hebrew and Japanese and installs from the PC with the phone attached.

RTL will not work in all programs. I got it working in SMS which is what I need it for, I don't write documents on my phone. If I enable Hebrew as the language of the phone it will give me a lot of Hebrew in the screens and also the Hebrew date.

Success,

Itamar
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] amir77a:
I checked the recent version with a cooked Diamond ROM (UDK Syrius from here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=438313).

I found some problems:

1. No Hebrew in the regional settings.

2. If I install the Full Hebrew MUI after sometime (can't determine) when I reset the device, it's like a kiss of death, meaning I must hard reset the device.

Any ideas?

Amir.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] lewys:
I wrote then I have an issue with opera address bar, it's not only in Opera, it's in all textboxes :(
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
well, I heard about this "hidden" text issue with the free Hebrew and omnia, but I can't help you because I don't have the device, which means I can't debug it properly.

Sorry :rolleyes:.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
This is a solution for the Touch HD! you have Diamond... :rolleyes:
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] lewys:
:(:(:( Only this version showing right-to-left hebrew and regional settings on my device.

Version from this thread works good only in Opera, in system hebrew is left-to-right, and no regional settings, may be it's possible to fix version from this thread?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
Everything seems to be OK there. do you have in your \windows 2 font files:

Tahoma

Tahomabd

..?

Can you check and make sure that there is Hebrew inside them? try to copy them to \windows\fonts - so they will be in both folders..

do a SR after.

if it doesn't help you, I'm sorry but I have no solution for you.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] amir77a:
So what is the best solution now for the Diamond?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] jelpern:
Tried it, now phone is zonked

I installed the Heb support only.cab onto my HTC Fuze shortly after a hard reset. Now it doesn't work at all. After the obligatory restart which was was part of the install, when it starts to load the TouchFlo3D I get:

"A problem has occurred with shell32.exe. Please tell Microsoft about this problem, at no cost to you ..."

It doesn't matter whether I press send or don't send, nothing happens. I can't close this screen and I can't access the Start menu or anything else. Soft reset works but it takes me back to the same screen. It looks like I'm going to have to shell out the 300 NIS and give it to some store to take care of, b/c I can't keep spending hours trying solutions and then having to HR each time. If anyone has a solution they know will work on the HTC Fuze I will be *very* happy!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
Those cabs are for the Touch HD!

for another devices, try the Polaris Hebrew Project (I posted the link above).
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
for your device, try to look here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=426707

or you can search in pocketpcfreak for a thread about "העברית החינמית".

there's people there with Diamond and I'm sure they can help you.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ausi:
Hi

OK, the Fonts were not in the \windows\fonts directory, managed to copy them and insert them.

I'll see the outcomes tomorrow at work and will let you know.

Praying!!!

Thanks
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ausi:
Hi Avimak

Actually i forgot to look into the Font files to see if there was Hebrew & there isn't, i have attached a copy of the letters inside.

Is this the problem? what should i do? Do you have the proper files for me to install?

Thanks

Originally Posted by avimak

Everything seems to be OK there. do you have in your \windows 2 font files:

Tahoma

Tahomabd

..?

Can you check and make sure that there is Hebrew inside them? try to copy them to \windows\fonts - so they will be in both folders..

do a SR after.

if it doesn't help you, I'm sorry but I have no solution for you.

Hi

OK, the Fonts were not in the \windows\fonts directory, managed to copy them and insert them.

I'll see the outcomes tomorrow at work and will let you know.

Praying!!!

Thanks
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] jjow:
I start BG translation and I need some En MUI files.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] GoldCoin:
Please don't post in Hebrew here.

Happy Purim.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
Well, this is a just crazy... if you installed the "Heb support only.cab" properly, you should have Tahoma and Tahomabd with Hebrew!

Here's a cab that should install those fonts, with Hebrew, in \windows and \windows\fonts.

Install it on your device and do a SR.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
That's a lot of files...

The quickest way to get it is to extract a ROM with the Blackstone Kitchen.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] GoldCoin:
So what's you're saying is that i've paid 329NIS on Eyron hebrew for nothing?

My interface is in English because i like it that way but ofcourse i need the

hebrew support to read/send SMS
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ausi:
Hi

Well i installed your cab and i will test it at work today but i must say i looked into the Tahoma files (after i installed them) and couldn't see any Hebrew letters??...any explanation?...the size of your files are the same as mine only that the date has changed.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
extract the "avimak Hebrew Fonts.cab" with winrar.

change the extension to ttf and open it with the Windows open type..

Can you see any Hebrew letters? "דג נחמד שט בים...." etc?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
well...

first of all, 329 NIS for Eyron it's a crazy price anyway.. I know many people who bought Eyron for 200 NIS..

second - YES! for your needs you paid for nothing.

:o:o:o
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] GoldCoin:
Good to know.

BTW: Is there a way to install the new manila V3 without flashing an entire ROM?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
Not that I know about... :rolleyes:
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ausi:
Ok, i did exactly what you said on my PC, opened the 4 OCAB... files with Windows Font viewer and did NOT find any Hebrew letters, only English same as my original ones.

How could it be that you see Hebrew letters and i don't??, could you please check on your end using your cab in your previous post. In the setup.xml there is also no hebrew and in the HEBREW~1.ttf (opened with Notepad) there are a few English letters + lines etc......no Hebrew.

I hope you haven't despaired yet!

Thanks

Originally Posted by ausi

Hi

Well i installed your cab and i will test it at work today but i must say i looked into the Tahoma files (after i installed them) and couldn't see any Hebrew letters??...any explanation?...the size of your files are the same as mine only that the date has changed.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
you don't need to look inside the xml file... the 4 ttf files are Tahoma and Tahomabd x 2 for \windows and \windows\fonts.

those files contain Hebrew for sure... so it's getting even more strange because those files are Hebrew fonts and you can't see it.

I have no idea why you can't see it and why your device doesn't recognize it as Hebrew fonts, it should if you installed (and you did) the "Hebrew support only" cab...

Sorry mate.. this is the end of this saga for me :(
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ausi:
First of all thanks for all your efforts.

At some point i'll upgrade to WM6.5, can you tell me what you think is the best one around that you know for sure that the Fonts should work & what SPL to load beforehand.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] eli_co:
i have installed it and it is working all by the book !!!!

very nice !

i have also installed the fingerkbd2 and all fine.

the only problem i have is that the dialup pad is not in hebrew .

am i doing something wrong ?

thanks for the DVLP and for your answers.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] coolvegasmike123:
hi can u send me a cab for this i cant download it from the link dont know why ,im in the usa im israeli i have a touch pro from sprint ,is that will work on it ?can i use it english and hebrew ?thank you for yor help
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
This is for the Touch HD, for your device - try the Polaris Hebrew Project (I posted the link above)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
There is not solution (for now ;)) for the dialer...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
About the SPL, you need the same HSPL of Olinex.

What is the best one around? for the Touch HD there is only one Chef that cooking WM 6.5... David.

And about Hebrew support, well I already tried the second version and it works with the "Hebrew support only.cab" - but do you want to start this SAGA again? ;)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] GoldCoin:
Ok so now after i flashed Davideuck's ROM, i installed the hebrew support cab you provided, and i can see and write hebrew with no problems. it really works good.

I'm facing just one problem: When i send SMS in hebrew, the recipient gets "??????????" and can't see what i sent.

Do you have any idea how to fix it?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
did your recipient have Hebrew support...? :D

I have no idea.... I used Davideuck's ROM for one day, sent sms and didn't have this problem.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] KukurikU:
there are 2 situations:

1-sending a SMS from the messages tab>>result OK!

2-sending a SMS from the contact's contact card>>the result is ?????? on the other end.

i've send a SMS to myself. i received ...?????? lol i certainly have hebrew support!:D

more, try and write/type a note. the writing start from left and words are ordered wrong until the end of the phrase. at the end the words and the whole phrase are ordered as it should.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] GoldCoin:
Thanks for revealing this!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] eli_co:
thank you , hope for solution ASAP this will upgrdae the hebrew .

as i said you have done an excellent job and it is working perfect !
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
OH! just saw that too, sending sms from the sms tab/WM sms interface is OK, sending sms from the NEW sms tab in the NEW contacts card is ??????...

i'm using Laurencius26 new 8.0 ROM.

spooky. I'll look for a solution.

;)

IMPORTANT ADDITION: I DIDN'T HAVE THIS PROBLEM WITH DUTTY XTREME 1.8/1.9/2.0 - so, if you have this problem with one of those ROMS, tell me please.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] KukurikU:
i do not believe you.:p

i have this problem with dutty 1.9.

now that i told you:p.......give me a solution:mad::D
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
Here is the solution:

Upgrade to Dutty 2.0, and if you facing this problem again - upgrade to Dutty 2.1 :D

seriously, this problem is too weird... specially because there is no problem with SMS that sent from the "normal" message TAB, and you can see those message in the contact card with no ??????, I guess this is one of the "new contacts" scripts. please check it if you can - I'm a bit exhausted from this thread :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
BTW, there is no ?????? for English or special tabs, so it's a matter of fonts-path-scripts for sure.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] KukurikU:
my guess is that the font from the contact card is not unicode. i wish somebody could tell me what the font is. it might be possible to change it.

btw, the hebrew support works very nicely on my athena also. there is full compatibility with all the devices from the last 3 years, trinity, athena, diamond and HD. eyron and pdac will go "belly up" i hope. i am so fed up with their excuses and ****-ups!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
the Free Hebrew "rename" the system fonts here:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\FontLink\SystemLink

so the Helvetica fonts are all "tahoma" in the end - so this is not the problem.

the problem could be if the "new contacts" scripts are not looking for those paths, but in other path that we don't know yet.

I tried to change:

22cd0dcf_manila

1e8c4d7d_manila

6582c9b1_manila

051f155b_manila

from Helvetica to Tahoma but it didn't help, adding new "names" for the Helvetica font as "tahoma" in that registry key i posted above didn't help either...

The thing that bother me the most is that i know for sure that i didn't have this problem with Dutty's ROMS, and you do facing this problem with those ROMS.

another thing that bother me is that I can see Hebrew in the same Tab that can't "providing" Hebrew as outgoing SMS. and I can't believe that the scripts using a totally different paths for "incoming" and "outgoing" messages..

so if you can read it, and you can write it, it should send it correctly in the end... :confused:
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] KukurikU:
believe me, i tried. i sent SMS to me and to every other phone in the family....same result. btw, i had the same problem in the 1.8 version of dutty's ROM.

on a second thought we have the same problem when using the note in the appointment. when writing it i can see the hebrew and after reopening i see gibberish...or maybe that's because of sync-ing with outlook?

sometimes i realy hate this language:D:p
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] eduard32:
I Upgraded to Dutty 2.1, installed Hebrew and now when i use Opera or IE i saw inverted words. For example: "תושדח" instead "חדשות". What I Have do to change this bug?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
Please search the thread!

this question have already been answered
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] idandush:
Hi Guys,

well as you guys , i also had some problems , i am with the Super_Lite ROM version.

with the newest Manila , and I found the following problems :

1. in Settings tab , IDS_GSENSOR page is in english , not translated . ( if you can refer me to the correct file .... i cant find it yet ).

2. when pressing on start i have the Programs -> in that window the Title is English .

( also couldn't find yet the file to edit it )

3. when sending SMS with the new Threaded SMS by Manila i send ??? . when using the SMS of windows it send everything correct . this is probably because the touchFLO is using some other UNICODE then the windows , i have no clue where to begin with that :(

so avimak , if you need any help , PM

i will continue to look for the files ,

Regards.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
The Manila problems are really simple to fix... the translation are for the Topaz Manila, and the new super_light ROMS you using are made from Rhodium OEMs...

I'll send my Rhodium translated files to the_dude today, and he'll post it with some fixes for the new builds...

As for the bug you mention, we already know about it and we're looking for solution, we'll be glad to see you guys helping ;)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] idandush:
Hi Avimak ,

if the Manila problems are really simple to fix , can you please give me some help ... ?

i dont want to re-install the Hebrew because of this minor problem .

about the BUG , maybe you can tell me , what file the windows use for translate the SMS's ? so i can see how it is , and locate the similiar that touchflo is using now ... ?

Thanks ! :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
this is exactly the problem, we don't know yet which file TF3D using in that contact-sms-tab...

I already sent the files to the_dude, he'll post it.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] idandush:
avimak ,

Thanks for the new Rhodium support so far .

since i feel like QA here , while searching for the files of the manila .

after installing the new files you gave the_dude , i saw that if you go to contacts -> all contacts , then pick a contact and try to edit it ... the page is all messed up .

this is wierd because that in the older files no Rhodium this file was fine .

you need a picture of that ? or you know what i am talking about ?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
the_dude explain it in the first post.

just delete ContactEditor.exe.0409.mui from \windows and do a SR.

if you suffering from this bug in another screens, do the same with the other files (you can found them in the first post), it's really easy to understand the names of the problematic screens.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Andy53:
Thanks for the nice surprise

I have an ETEN X500+ with WM6.1 kva ROM v9 and until now could only read Hebrew from left to right since Tahoma fonts were present. I was not willing to pay 300 NIS to Eyron, I don't need the Hebrew UI. I tried to install the "Heb support only.cab" and the wonder happend, all looks as it should. Small problems like justification do not bother me...

I want to thank to all involved in this project which made my device "normal", especially avimak/the_dude.:D
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] idandush:
your lucky :)

i stil have my threaded sms , and my hebrew dont work there .
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
Be more specific, the Hebrew works in the normal WM sms application, even the threaded SMS it's fine.

the only problem is in the Message Tab in the new Manila - and it's not the Hebrew problem, it's a global problem that drives crazy people around the world and still has not solution.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] GoldCoin:
So you're saying the new manila doesn't support other languages as well?

I thought it's only hebrew problem. Maybe we can ask HTC about it?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
NO, i'm not saying that! :)

I'm only saying that the PeopleMessage tab (the shiny new message tab in the new manila contact page) doesn't allowing you sending UNICODE messages, and we (the UNICODE users) don't know why yet.

couple of expert looking for solution, you are welcome to help :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] joe11211:
any chance for a QVGA version?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] wolfkorn:
installed after HR

Everything works fine but now I'm having issues with English spell check in sms!!

it says spell check complete! but it dosen't correct anything.

Also the auto-capitalize first word wont work now.

I've try'd with other versions of the free hebrew like the polaris but it doesn't work either.

I also tryd to fix it by only installing the lite version of hebrew, but no luck.

Please HELP...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] TheAgent1982:
Hebrew for NRG28 Rom Rhodium TP2

I wold like to know, how and when will you fit the Hebrew to Rhodium Manila

(or XBmod Rhodium Manila)

1. Notification

2. Email Setup

3. Contact Wizard

i tried on several ROM and Rhodium Manila kind, ON GO! only Squers instead letters, or links not at their places, and things like that...

Hope that you will get XBMOD manila, because his has the less bugy Manila...

Thanx In Advance!

TheAgent1982
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
1) There is a specific note about those applications on the first thread.

most of the ROMs doesn't support the Hebrew translation in that Apps. there is a way to get back the English translation - look at the first post.

2) Rhodium manila it's a fresh stuff that getting change by every Chef... it's not possible to make new cab for every little change, some of this stuff you can do too ;)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] TheAgent1982:
Thats is NOT Correct...

Because, only XBmod made a PORTED VGA Rhodium Manila, and all the Chefs using his Manila.

I tried what that you wrote at first post, but because the Hebrew is "in use",

in order by MobiDiv software RTL plugin translation, those files CAN NOT be deleted...

So, nice trick, but do not work...

any other option?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] TheAgent1982:
Same Problem, long last...

Thats is NOT Correct...

Because, only XBmod made a PORTED VGA Rhodium Manila, and all the Chefs using his Manila.

I tried what that you wrote at first post, but because the Hebrew is "in use",

in order by MobiDiv software RTL plugin translation, those files CAN NOT be deleted...

So, nice trick, but do not work...

any other option?