yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] slawcop`:
Damn I was hoping it was something I installed and could just remove...lol...Hopefully they will have a fix for this tomorrow...Oh and I took your suggesion and added start to the exclusive list...I actually hit it by accident and said...hmmm that does sound like a good idea
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tx3kgtman:
Same problem here with people tab. Cant make calls.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] norkoastal:
Agreed.. The chef here is on T-Mobile, so he sees no real benefit to the A-GPS additions, whereas the AT&T folks do. I personally hate using GPS test everytime I need a fast lock, so hopefully it is added in the near future.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tadevinney:
the option to send Pictures to Facebook is missing (and the account manager has been set up)

also

options in Landscape view are over to the left about 2 letters to far. (open google maps and menu in landscape mode)

and when activation WIFI the pop up in Portrait mode comes down to far but perfect in landscape

very happy to see MSVC back and to have a working alarm

I very much appreciate the time and quick efforts of everyone involved in getting this into our hands so quickly.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] siggty7:
u are the best!!!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NRGZ28:
Okay... I dont want to sound like a ****, but I want to reiterate that I really DON'T need to hear about bugs and things that aren't working. They're being repeated over and over and over AND over again. Frankly, I dont care to see the same bugs reported by every different user. Trust me, between me, xboxmod and all the people involved in testing the new Manila, WE KNOW, what the shortcomings are and what is not finished yet. I'm personally very happy with how it works right now and I've excited to share this with all of you HERE. What I'm NOT excited about it hearing about complaints and whining about how this or that doesn't work.... To everybody enjoying this ROM for what it is and telling me I did a good job, I *THANK YOU*. To everybody else, be happy you have the new Manila to play with... and if it doesn't fully satisfy you, there's LOTS of other ROMs on this forum :) Hopefully I didn't sound TOO much like an asshole, but I dont see how else I can get my point across.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] slawcop`:
Sorry Bro,

Out of three of your Rom threads I have done everything you have asked. However, since the people tab doesnt work on 2.1 and did on 2.0 I

assumed

it was because I had a bad flash or installed something that interferred. I am sorry if it made you mad to discuss it in your thread. Your point has been made perfectly clear to me now...Again,

Thank YOU

and XBMOD and the entire team for all of your hard efforts in porting this and releasing it to us early....God Bless...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] aaronsmckee:
I enjoy your ROM, its great :D, for all the complainers F**K em its a freaking beta, be glad you even get to see it, also the chefs (and pretty much all those that contribute) are freaking doing this on their own, they are not your employees, nor do they get paid (beyond donations which are nothing compared to the level of effort required), if you cannot take the time to either find the fix, create a fix, or (here is a good idea) flash another rom then you should probably leave the forum.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] funkyfunky:
A suggestion, opening post have the bug list, and pray they read the first post.

1.5 Rom is awesome, glad skipped the 2.0 since you said it is obsolete. I am sure there will be update coming on the 2.1. Flash or wait....tempting ..
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NRGZ28:
Hey, you know, I wasn't targeting YOU specifically with that post. I was just outing my frustration in general. But I will take funkyfunky's suggesiton and post a list of bugs on the first thread.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] aaronsmckee:
welcome to the forums, READ THE FIRST POST, this ROM includes an early BETA of an interface that is being ported and is not yet complete, everything you listed is a know issue and is being worked on by lots and lots of people volenteering their time, in addition the very first post of this thread requests that no one post bugs, please do not post these kinds of things.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] splxtreme:
not sure if this is a bug or not, I tried searching but didn't find anything. Is anyone experiencing, or having their phone say that they have voicemail, when they really don't?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] showaco:
Thanks for the new rom NRG, found this wallpaper you might be interested in:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NRGZ28:
Very nice. Thanks :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Nvious:
Dude, i think a lot of us understand the frustration. Forget about coming off as a ****. You're doing all the work, what you say matters. If anyone's got a problem, then F%#$* Off. I spoke up in the old thread. I really hope these people can leave you alone and let you concentrate on what you do best.

Keep that Meth lab running strong buddy! check your PM, i made something for you that might help this nonsense.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] longnguyen30:
Thanks for a nice, fast Rom

How can I make a sound loud when using You Tube eventhough when I install ravest You tube cab to fix connection.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] antoniouslj:
I don't usually post thank you's to cooks or developers unless it's something truly life changing. What you've been able to do with these EnergyRom's is amazing. You truly are a lord among men. Keep it up!

I just need to sit down and set up a UC so I don't have to keep installing all my apps ever 2-3 days when you release an update!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tanyzhang:
I beg your pardon, I just want more people to focus on and improve this new thing
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tanyzhang:
We're sorry, but I think you misunderstood me, I just want to help you more accurately find the shortcomings of this new ROM so that you can better improve this new ROM.

Of course, if you do not want to see this is the case, I will not mention the matter. Your work is great, once again thank you.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tsitadim:
Thanks for the new ROM. I have the same problem with the weather. I cannot add custom cities. I have no bugs and my phone working very good, only problem weather.

Thank you again.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] TheAgent1982:
Need to Inform about that BUG !

I have been checking you v 2.0b beta, the BUG was not there, but appear at the v2.1b beta.

1. The menu for "meeting" in calander, got crap, you can not see anything at the menu or select something, but only the frame you can see.

I talking about the menue, after you choose the day in your calendar, and then, the appointment.

So, you can NOT edit, delete or other things that have been at this menu.

2. The Icon of "my upload" got crap gif ?!?

I will check for more bugs, in inform ...

Thanx in advance!

Raz W.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] colaglas:
This is also an issue in version 1.2, so it is a known issue. It looks like the SQL CE is read-protected or something.

I search the 1.5 topic and find this information:

- http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3396077&postcount=637

- http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=3393902#post3393902

My cities are standard, but maybe I'll try this for my self.

@NRGZ28: great job again. You're tha bomb ! It's a pitty I didn't know you were in Amsterdam.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Wordsmith9091:
So is that "not in this ROM, but maybe in 2.2 or later" ... or is that "not in this ROM, because there's not much point?"

I didn't think aGPS was all that useful until I installed the ATT Test ROM tonight to play around with it (coming back to my backup of Energy tomorrow, though :). -- The difference is remarkable. Getting 8-9 Satellites in under a minute or so -indoors-. Maybe it's just a fluke. Maybe it's still holding the info from the last lock. But I've never before seen it connect in my house without a major struggle, and it often can't connect at all -- now it's super-quick even in here. Going to try again in the morning to see if those results hold.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dizzyraider:
Actually, it's not too hard to get aGPS to work with this rom. I just installed At0mAng's aGPS Registry setting cab here along with the matching rilphone.dll that came with the new radio (using the new radio of course...) then switch on aGPS from TouchPro Tweak and voila! aGPS now works :) Now I'm able to get a fix within 20 seconds indoors, it is pretty awesome...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] havoc99:
Manila TP2

I cannot believe how practical and advantageous the TP2 manila is. This is brilliant. Especially the calendar. I use my TP for work so it's really convenient to have the calendar tab linked with the calendar. I was wondering if there was a way to increase the number of calendar entries on the home tab? Is there a tweak/hack for this? any manila files I can update for this?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mike freegan:
People are going to discuss bugs in here. Do not take it personally. They are not complaining or being unappreciative of your hard work; they just want to know if it is a problem with their flashing or if anyone can think of a way around the problem so they can continue using the exellent ROM.

They are quite entitled to do so. It is a forum; that is what it is for. People come to XDA-Devs to find and share solutions to problems.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] havoc99:
I was also wondering, if there was a way to minimize the slide bar in portrait as it does when in landscape mode. That way it could help with the screen size. Any way I can try this out myself? Are there any notes or guidelines in modifying the manila (TF3D) files? Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] slawcop`:
Stop posting bugs

GUYS THE CHEF HAS ASKED US TO STOP POSTING BUGS. STOP ASKING FOR CUSTOMIZATION ITS BETA, STOP DEBATING ABOUT AGPS. THIS MEANS DO NOT POST WHAT DOESNT WORK. THEY KNOW. RESPECT HIS WISHES OR YOU WILL RUIN IT FOR EVERYONE!!!!! DO NOT POST BUGS!!!! CHECK HERE FOR FURTHER DETAIL!!!

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3432223&postcount=1
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] TweakMyDevice:
So...just curious, what are we posting in this thread? Just wondering because I can't set any push internet pages on the internet tab and was hesitant to ask about it. Didn't see any mention of that in the first post. Maybe there is a hotfix like there was for Youtube and Album problems.

Great ROM by the way:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tx3kgtman:
This is a beta

JEEZE

'Beta' is a nickname for software which has passed the alpha testing stage of development and has been released to users for software testing before its official release. Beta testing allows the software to undergo usability testing with users who provide feedback, so that any malfunctions these users find in the software can be reported to the developers and fixed. Beta software can be unstable and could cause crashes or data loss

This is a beta correct? Yes so with all respect to the developers on this crazy amazing rom please calm down. People will post bugs and always do so. This is what all this is for. Yes some people will post the same bug as someone did three pages back because they are either too lazy to check or does not know the definition of research. Dont post the rom if you dont want feedback "which includes bugs".
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] slawcop`:
I dont care what the definition of Beta is...he asked us not do post bugs so the definition has changed. Neither he nor I need to calm down. Respect his wishes or there will no thread and you will ruin it for everyone else. His thread, His rom, His rules....
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mrvanx:
Incorrect statement im afraid sir. Instead of posting MASSIVE BOLD RANTS at members feel free to report any post you feel are infringing "His Rules".
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tx3kgtman:
like he said there are plenty of other roms out there. So if he wants to kill it ride on. I dont see other devs mad that beta testers are posting bugs.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mchapman007:
No matter what Bugs are in this ROM, it is the best (FREE - AS IN, NO COST TO YOU) out there and NRGZ28 has done a wonderful job and deserves more than a few kegs of beer for his all of hard work. None of these issues being reported are deal breakers and I will continue to use and flash future versions...

I also commend NRGZ28 for putting up with a lot of BS from people not respecting his wishes.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] slawcop`:
Ok you got it your the boss....every time someone else messes it up for others I will alert a mod and not try to resolve the issue myself. the bold letters were a way to attract attention to something very important....but as noted apparently it is not my place to do this.... I truly hope he pulls the beta from the shelf. If this was your thread mrvanx you would have the same problem if people were violating your rules, but he doesnt have mod power to monitor it like you do.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NRGZ28:
Guys, let's not get too off topic here. I don't demand anybody respect my wishes not to post bugs. I would LIKE everybody not to post bugs. But, unfortuantely, it will happen. What is my greatest defense against the type of people that can't be bothered to read and understand the first post ? Ignore them! :)

I understand it's a "beta" and you're SUPPOSED to post bugs. BUT, I ask you not to. Why ? Because I know about them! Xboxmod (who is working on resizing the new Manila) DEFINITELY knows about them... We don't need to be reminded constantly of the things that don't work. :)

Now, please, let the n00bs( or the ignorant) post bugs. Let them ask stupid questions... If it's not worth a reply, ignore them. Simple as that. Hopefully, they'll get the point and go learn how to search.... or use a bug free ROM :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Texan1:
Sheesh, a lot of people getting way too precious over these self-enforced "rules" in the Energy ROM threads. At the end of the day, it's an open *discussion* forum, not owned by the OP of any thread created. Basically, people can post what they want (within reason).

I've seen numerous thanks and pats on the back given to the OP for his great work on these ROM's, just enjoy them and don't get carried away with the sarcastic responses that really put a negative spin on the good work he does.

What harm does people posting bugs do? If they are not listed in the first post of this thread then why not ask if others are having the same issue? Honestly people, get over it, you have the choice to ignore any post you don't deem fit for the thread, let people *discuss* in a *discussion* forum. Otherwise post a thread then ask the mods to lock it for no further posting if it's that important to you.

To the OP - keep up the excellent work but chill out on the unnecessary negative posts that you really don't need to bother with.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hugorx:
good rom :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] brnail:
Well put NRGZ

I appreciate your last post. The comments were getting a little out of hand. Obviously, there are some issues in Manilla, but like many, I used 2.0 and now 2.1 and look forward to future updates. I think the good vastly outweighs the not quite right yet.

Great work and thanks.

Brian
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] lpsi2000:
Just a thought

I am going to try to make a point since there is so much emotion on this thread. Do not take this personally but it is an observation on how things came about in this thread.

If you create a thread and you post the ROM publicly here then you should expect people to reply with their feedback (good or bad). To minimize the duplication of bugs reports, you should post all known bugs of this ROM at the beginning of the thread. That way you get your point across to everyone with minimal effort.

Telling people not post bugs because they are all known was not good idea considering not everyone is aware of the known issues. Again, if they are known else where due to the TP2 or other manila project that is great but not everyone in this thread will be aware of them. Who knows may be some of those bugs could be this ROM specifically ( how would someone know).

When you decided to share your hard work with others publicly (becoming a Chef publicly), you should expect some level of heat. You want to be in the kitchen and serving the public, prepare yourself mentally and emotionally for what it takes. Meaning the questions and bugs are going to be out of this world. Some of PPL here will ask the same questions over and over and over and over and over even know the answer is a few posts ahead (who knows I might be one those users:D).

We could see the frustration in you posts daily and they are getting worst as you try to get yourself acclimated in this new position. I know you are fairly new at doing this publicly for this device. You will burn out very quickly at this rate. To be successful at doing this you have keep in mind being a great leader is not just how great your ROM will become but how well you serve your clients (PPL). Customer service is a tremendous part of the deal and yes they are some PPL you have to show them your other side. However I think trying to set such tone right now considering your time on this block, you might as well close up shop now.

Finally, I do understand you are doing this on your own free time, for free. However, you chose to put yourself in this position. Welcome to Hell Kitchen and I sincerly hope you understand what saying. This my 2 cents on why this thread and I do see you are taking action to shape it up by adding known bugs to the first post.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Wordsmith9091:
I tried exactly that on 1.5 but didn't notice any improvement to GPS lock times ... certainly not the massive improvement I saw on the ATT ROM. Have there been other updates to relevant packages in this version?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] aonavy:
any idea when 2.3 is coming out:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NRGZ28:
Customer service was never part of the "deal"... Customer "service" is what some chefs CHOOSE to provide. :) For the most part, I do... But I think from now I will post the ROMs and that's it, let people talk amongst themselves about it :) With that said... I'm out :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] slawcop`:
I understand sir, Thank you for your efforts again and sorry others won't respect your wishes......there are still some of us who understand....
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] goko_:
I don't know that should I post this or not,

But I still cannot add city on Weather with many software.

I cannot find on this problem on this version, but someone already post on 2.0.

Thank you guy for your ROM.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Wordsmith9091:
Just want to throw a thanks your way for the help you do offer, and for how responsive you've been. That you do listen to the -useful- comments, questions and bug reports has helped make this such a great ROM. Looking forward to the next version.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] michelkenny:
Wow, I just flashed 2.0 and now 2.1 and I am very impressed! I have used a bunch of other ones and I believe this is my favorite!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tx3kgtman:
Sry if my posts came off wrong but both these posts say exactly what i ment. just alot more defined. The chef does amazing work and I do thank him, but a rule for no bug posting becuase you already know of all the bugs is insane. Any IT/Programmer should know there will ALWAYS be bugs that you are unaware of.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] lpsi2000:
Appreciate your understanding and I personally respect your decision to only post the ROMs.... Thank for your efforts.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mike freegan:
That's BS. The guy has done a great job on these ROMs in his own free time. He doesn't owe anyone customer service - he's done enough.

However, no-one has the right to get pissy in threads where users are discussing the ROM. Don't answer the questions yourself, fair enough. But don't shoot down people trying to find ways to live with the bugs. We're a community - it's what we do. Most of the bug reports here aren't aimed at the chef. They're aimed at the community to see if anyone else can help.

I say 'bugs' - there isn't really much in there that bothers me. EnergyROMs are great. More complete/bug free than many final releases. That is very commendable. My compliments to the chef and XBmod for their hard work.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ericino:
Thanks!

Im loving this ROM, fast and practical. GPS works great (Tmobile NL) and no real bad bugs found. So thanks to NRGZ28 :d
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Nezzy76:
I RARELY post because I have found that 99.99% of everything you need to know is GRATUITOUSLY given out by people like NRGZ28. The worst thing we can do as people who don't know or do the things these great people do for the forum is piss them off or make them feel that the work they do is to much of ***** to continue doing it. I don't even own a FUZE but have read every post in this forum. As soon as my FUZE arrives I will be using these ROMS. NRGZ28, THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT WORK YOU DO AS A DEVELOPER!!! I could never do it.

Imagine a forum where NOOBS ran the show!!! There are rules and there is common sense! If there was less posting and more reading I wouldn't have to read 30 pages of posts just to get 2 pages of useful information.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] naveen:
and i thought i was going to flash 2.0 today---my bad!!!:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NRGZ28:
Amen! :) And this coming from a guy who doesnt even OWN a fuze yet...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] fb401:
This is hilarious. It's actually the first time I've ever seen a Chef ask that no one report bugs and yet, people are crying and whining because they DO want to report them.

@tx3, what every IT/Programmer is that if 99% of his/her code has been tested, tested, then retested and there are no bugs, AND the that person knows that 1% does have bugs and they are working on it, then he/she does NOT need you to report them. That 1% = Rhoduim TF.

I've seen people not follow directions before, but I've never seen them not follow directions which actually makes them do more work than is asked of them. lol. How hard is it to dl the ROM, flash and keep it moving?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tx3kgtman:
wow ur saying they are supposed to know there code up and down and are aware of every single bug there is but theres a new release every week for new bugs that have come up? And that is coming from a database manager? I know you know some about programming so come on. High end million dollar programs built from the best of the best still have bugs not know of until tested. The reason for the word "patch" that is used in every complex program you will ever use.

*EDIT* let me add something towards NRG. In my very first post I made on this subject I did say I was not talking about the 2 kinds of people who post bugs. #1 the people who are to lazy to read the forums #2 The people who dont know what "research" is. So know that im not saying we need 90 pages of the same bugs over and over. But after someone has done there research and feels that they have experienced a new bug noone else has posted then yes they should be able to post on that account. So plz dont get me wrong.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] y2whisper:
Hi NRGZ28,

Trying to figure out a possible bug with my rom, doesn't seem to be a Rom issue itself, but with software i add (live mesh) but I wanted to ask, do you want me to mention this stuff if its not related to manilla or any htc apps? I mean I know that stuff is repeated but what about other items that may be caused from something else?

Again my situation now is a poor example but I wanted to verify going forward.

Thank you for your hard work and patience.