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[G1 Apps and Games] nolageek:
It's not supposed to be 'real four way square'. The whole point of it is that all pages are one swipe away from any other page. There's only four ways you can swipe. Use it for a while, maybe you'll like it?

And yes, I find it much smoother than the stock launcher.
[G1 Apps and Games] tanner2007:
Am probably stupid but it still confuses me

I swift left and swipe right but a different screen then swipe up and back down and whos screen that was on the side so i swipe to side and shows screen that was not the right one...its weird I need more details on how it is
[G1 Apps and Games] xSeri:
Love the application but only one problem, I can't make it seem to work with BetterCut?

All of the custom icons/shortcuts show up on the first home screen but not the additional, so I was wondering what that bettercuts problem or dx?
[G1 Apps and Games] Misty Blue:
I noticed that about bettercut, too. The only way around it is to create a couple of shortcuts at a time and drag them to the desired location. It is also a pain in the ass to try and drag things between screens with dxtop. It takes a long time and several attempts to drag something to other screens.
[G1 Apps and Games] nolageek:
No matter where you're at, swiping left will always take you to the same page, as does swiping up, down or right. They're not in relation to each other. Once you stop thinking of it in terms of "i'm trying to back to the page I was at" more "I'm trying to get to such-and-such page" it'll make more sense. If you if you go right, you'll always get the RIGHT page, even if you just swiped up or down, RIGHT is always right. TOP is always up. BOTTOM is always down. LEFT is always left.
[G1 Apps and Games] Jason Syn:
Does this app work if you have root access? Also what if you have a custom theme installed, does it mess your theme up?
[G1 Apps and Games] nolageek:
I believe both of those have been answered in the thread already... It works fine with root. It plays nice with themes except for the parts that are in launcher.apk --- since this is basically a replacement for that package. The author is working on a way to skin dxTop without having to redistribute the apk (which would be pirating the app itself in the process.)
[G1 Apps and Games] tanner2007:
It messed up my slider...mine was using the cha ninja theme but now the two slider thing got rid of the icons and such for the slider
[G1 Apps and Games] nolageek:
@tanner2007 - I'm guessing the ninja theme modified the launcher.apk to add those icons.
[G1 Apps and Games] tanner2007:
I guess so, And it sucks...When are the changes gonna be made to this app?
[G1 Apps and Games] xShadoWxDrifTx:
If you want to get used to this app, you have to totally forget how the old home screen worked

Its just a swipe in any 4 directions and you'll get to that specified screen

Swipe to left to get to left screen

Swipe up to get to top screen

Swipe right to get to right screen

Swipe down to get to bottom screen

Its as simple as that, as said in many posts, the point is you can swipe these directions from any screen and get to that screen

I myself like the single swipe action
[G1 Apps and Games] nolageek:
The dev is working on it. You have to understand that the app itself replaces the launcher.apk.. theme devs cant make changes to this and redistribute it like they would with the stock launcher.apk.. because dxtop is a paid app.

dxtop's dev has to make it themeable in such a way that doesn't require themers to re-distribute the apk file.
[G1 Apps and Games] Beast84:
Anyone else have an issue with dxtop crashing when the phone boots up? It happens everytime I restart my phone. It still launches the crash screen & dxtop loads once I hit keep launching or whatever it is but its kinda annoying when its everytime I restart my phone. Just curious if anyone else is experiencing this? Or if there is a fix on the way?
[G1 Apps and Games] wizern23:
i dont have time to do a search so please just deal with me. i'm using the demo and after a while when i try to go back to dxtop home screen it takes me to the browser and has it act like its the home screen by not letting me exit out of it. i was wondering if this problem occurs in the paid version too b/c i was about to buy it and just wanted to know if i had to deal with it after i buy it.
[G1 Apps and Games] nolageek:
I love when people are all "I dont have time to do a search." How long does you think it takes to click 'search'? Plus, I have no idea what you're issue is. How are you trying to go back to the home screen? Clicking the "back" button or clicking the "home" button? The demo is designed to be a little annoying when trying to use the back button to get back to the home screen, it'll make you cycle through all of your open programs --- I read that somewhere.
[G1 Apps and Games] TheMasterBaron:
The demo version of dxTop just quits after 5 minutes of run time if you leave and then try to come back to it. So you have to restart it with the home button. This information is on the demo download page.
[G1 Apps and Games] tanner2007:
Now I understand how the app works and how to use it and I have to say its amazing and awesome, should make more features and widget
[G1 Apps and Games] Abolfazl:
Baron, got an aim screenname? IM me at "TRL" if you do
[G1 Apps and Games] Darkrift:
It took the explaznations here to understand it but I just had that epiphany. I somewhat agree that the zen movement would be lost with 5-6 screens, but I would like the option. With widgets coming out we might need more space to put all of them.
[G1 Apps and Games] androidmonkey:
Nice app. Is there a way to automatically go to the top "main" screen when pressing the Home button?

btw, I am using the demo.
[G1 Apps and Games] MontAlbert:
how about like with MacOSx where you press something or other and the widgets pop up infront of the screen? Could this be done- say a single button on the main home screen where when pressed it brought up a transparent widget screen? (i havent used mac OSX much, i uninstalled it in favour of unbuntu)
[G1 Apps and Games] wizern23:
I'm having exams in school so i have only a few minutes to be on the internet before i have to start studying. i was using the home button then dxtop from the pop up menu.
[G1 Apps and Games] cente:
Help me please

Please help me

i install the app and when done i click home but nothing happens

i have g1 root with jf 1.42 rc33

what's the problem???
[G1 Apps and Games] gPhunk:
Ya Beast, I am having the same issue. I am getting the error "The application dxTop (process android.process.acore) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again " After hitting "Force Close" it goes to a screen that says "If you are seeing this message, then dxTop did not shutdown gracefully. This could be from a freak accident, a bad widget, or from a power loss. Continue launching dxTop -OR- Launching Deault Home interface" I have the dxTop as my default desktop (When I hit my home button it goes to the dxTop instead of the default home screen) so that is probably the issue. I can't figure out a way to end dxTop (it doesn't show up in Task Manager either) before turning the phone off so this needs to be addressed.
[G1 Apps and Games] gPhunk:
Sounds like you have your default home screen saved as the "default" for your Home Button.

Go to Settings==>Applications==>Manage Applications==>Home==> Hit "clear defauilts"

Now when you hit your home button it should give you the option between the default home screen and the dxTop app
[G1 Apps and Games] cente:
thanks to help me! but I 've followed what you wrote and the button clear default was not clickable....

I tried to reset data , the button up in the home setting but nothing happen

It's so strange any other suggestion?
[G1 Apps and Games] cente:
INCREDIBLE!

I made a Wipe resetting the phone and when done I installed appsinstaller in order to install dxtop Demo

when finished it DOESN'T START AGAIN!!!!

I really don't understand why doesnt work
[G1 Apps and Games] dwang:
Its a nice app, but it does seem to have more lag going back to the home screen than the default launcher.
[G1 Apps and Games] nolageek:
I've noticed that it'll get more and more laggy with more programs (same with the default launcher.) But, when I reboot, dxtop totally blows the default one away in terms of speed for a few days.

Odd?
[G1 Apps and Games] TruTechGeek:
i have a BIG PROBLEM. im using DxTop and when i tried to edit some of my icons with bettercut it erased them and now i cant save ANY bettercut shortcuts. anyone else having this problem or have a solution?
[G1 Apps and Games] dmm0816:
are we able to use themes with this yet and how do you even get themes on the phone with this (i'm don't have root just rc33)? that's all i'm waiting for and i'm sold.
[G1 Apps and Games] chrisrj28:
In answer to your question yhou have to have root in order to get a theme. Even if you have DxTop you will need root.
[G1 Apps and Games] Beast84:
I don't know for sure but I think your new version jacked my phone up! Its on the looping android logo now. Nothing changed except for this app so it has to be this. I think I'm gonna have to wipe! :-( Anyone else get this with the new version?
[G1 Apps and Games] claborn:
hmmm

i'm rooted and all but i'm not getting any lag or wipe issues at all. maybe some of you are trying to do too much with the phone?? i dunno

???
[G1 Apps and Games] TheMasterBaron:
Sorry, I'm not on AIM.

This should never cause the looping android issue. dxTop launches after boot, not during.
[G1 Apps and Games] Henchman:
Yep, same here.

I think the problem lies if you're using themes, then by using this latest update, it goes over the useable memory size.

I'm going to delete the amazon app, along with all the system sound fonts to see what happens.
[G1 Apps and Games] mygti02:
this is an awesome app......I had the problem where it forced closed afterstartup, but after the update this morning it no longer happens.

Woul dlike to see some more Widgets developed.....i would do it myself, but i have no clue how HAHAA

also, try to make it a tiny bit smoother? that would be awesome to have it smooth like the iPhone.

Keep up the great work! i look forward to future updates form you :)
[G1 Apps and Games] Beast84:
Sorry I don't know what it is. Once I wiped, everything booted. But when I tried downloading dxTop again, it started again. So I wiped again but this time it did it in the process of moving my apps back to the sdcard. It works with nothing else but as soon as I try to add to it, it loops

The thing is I'm not using a theme... at all. I have changed the font tho... think that might be the issue???
[G1 Apps and Games] testing567:
I had an idea about the confusion some people have been having about the diamond gesture layout. I already posted it at the dxtop wikidot page so I'll just post a link to avoid double posting. I'm curious to hear what you guys think. (Especially TheMasterBarron)

http://dxtop.wikidot.com/forum/t-135488/understanding-screen-layout
[G1 Apps and Games] ei8htohms:
works perfectly for me since the update

I was one of the folks that experienced the force close loop when trying to uninstall earlier versions, but this one works perfectly and I love it even more. This is a must-have app for me now without a doubt. I can't wait for some good widgets!
[G1 Apps and Games] wizern23:
I tried to download the paid version onto my g1 and it said that it couldn't be signed. i then went and unistalled the demo to see if it will work then so now my home screen wont even boot up at all. the notifications bar works and thats it. i am now trying to reflash my g1 to see if that brings it back up.

has anybody had a similar problem.

{edit 1} just tried reflash and now that didn't work. about to try wipe. prays that this works.

{edit 2} just wipe and got it to start back working. now nebody know y its not installing. im on JF RC33 1.42
[G1 Apps and Games] Meltus:
edit: turns out slide-unlocker blocked dxTop from running on my phone. just a heads up to people with it installed.
[G1 Apps and Games] tanner2007:
When i click home button it takes a long time to load the desktop but only when I click home i think
[G1 Apps and Games] sino8r:
Should post a demo in the market. This has huge potential but as of right now it doesn't support themes very well, slow and sluggish upon entering home screen, very chaotic layout, and the widgets are boring stock ones. Could have at least added some in the program itself. Tried a couple in the marketplace and they work well. Again sorry for being kind of harsh but I'm just a little disappointed after all the hype about this. Here are a few ideas... options to change start/menu/pull up bar; clock, weather, and music widgets; and allow skinning of system objects. Finally, bravo for the fantastic idea (great workaround for widgets). Can't wait to see improvements!
[G1 Apps and Games] UnkzDomain:
Have you guys seen aHome in the Market? http://www.cyrket.com/asset/1974643383723643746 it supports custom icons and theming and everything.

It adds iPhone-ish swiping on the home screen.
[G1 Apps and Games] Henchman:
I just tried it.

I like dxTop much more.

Way better way to organize icons and desktop.
[G1 Apps and Games] UnkzDomain:
Yeah, aHome needs to get an app drawer. The two widgets in aHome are like 100x better though.
[G1 Apps and Games] rickyteddyb:
Interesting

But i like dxtop more. If only dxtop could get ahome quality widgets.
[G1 Apps and Games] anddep:
if only if the was USEFUL widgets.. i mean we have a search bar, posted note resets after add an object to the homescreen. i need widgets like the date,weather, sdcard and phone storage.. how bout a digital clock? and so on.. useful widgets
[G1 Apps and Games] q426669:
And stop charging a f**k*** dollar for widgets! They should be FREE

EVEN IN WINDOWS WIDGETS ARE FREE!

IN BLOODY F--K--G WINDOWS! BY MICROSOFT!

STOP BEING GREEDY.

sorry for the caps lock, but this is getting retardedly expensive, for a laggy experiance.

At least if you are going to charge, make it WORTH charging for.

Time it takes to make a search bar widget? less the 5 min!

Time for post it notes? well since the APK is stolen from another application, it took MAYBE 10 min.

And you want me to pay for that? It's called community service.

*EDIT* Stolen is incorrect, because it is OPEN SOURCE. IIRC it is NOT LEGAL to charge when you are repackaging a FREE OPEN SOURCE .apk file. Wait, Stolen IS correct. Just the wrong context haha.
[G1 Apps and Games] AGunz82:
I prefer ahome. I love how the bottom icons stay there for easy access to my 4 main apps. Weather gadget is official too.
[G1 Apps and Games] coolbho3000:
Yes it is legal in most cases... depends on what it's licensed under. However, if it's licensed under the GPL or GPL like licenses, you must still release the source publicly for free even if you're charging for the software.
[G1 Apps and Games] q426669:
Thank you for stating that more clearly then I did. I was in a very bad mood. I look at the market, and it just makes me a little mad, and very sad.

So much potential, being poisioned by bad company's, and greedy people.

I am slowly learning how to program for Android, simply to help put out free alternatives to all this garbage. I had had hope that google would moderate the market to keep it from becoming a trash dump of people trying to take advantage of people that don't have time to go through that incoherant list of s***.
[G1 Apps and Games] AsaSpades:
Whats the problem? If people want money for their work let them, dont buy it then, its not like its a fortune to pay. On the other hand widgets for apps th@ u have to pay for would make sense for them to be free, but hey its not mine.
[G1 Apps and Games] Gimpeh:
I'm more than happy to support our local community of developers if its a good program or widget. These people need a income too.
[G1 Apps and Games] cente:
HELP

I've just purchased the dxtop and installed with apps installer (the program found in the market with 2 orange cubes as icon)

and after when I click home it doesnt appear as option.

I've tried before the dxtop demo found in the market and it worked very well

note:

(the demo version installed from the sd card before didn't worked....)

why the one purchased doesnt appear ?

in the home setting there is no default option checked and also aHome works fine

please help me!

first app paid doesn't worked

thanks
[HTC Excalibur] mentalmummy:
I have done the obvious steps of googling and searching the forums so please excuse me if I have missed the answer to this question but here goes....

I bought a T-Mobile branded HTC S620 on ebay, the advert says it has WiFi but the device never showed this ability at all. I followed instructions here to update to the Kavana 6.1 Rom but still no Wi Fi. I was wondering if anyone can tell me should this actually have Wi Fi capability?

The technical details are:

CPU: TI OMAP850

Speed: 201 MHz

RAM: 64 MB

FLASH: 128 MB

Model Name: HTC-S620

Radio Version: 4.1.13.51_03.07.90

Can`t find a way to display further information, if I run the freeware program WifiIO it says "sorry no WLAN hardware found" and I`m thinking it doesn`t have the hardware built in

There is a code underneath the battery that reads EXCA210 if this helps?

Thanks

Dave
[HTC Excalibur] rilbel:
Of course it does. Did you check on CommManager? If you flashed the phone to 6.1 then I assume you also followed the steps to allow SMS, MMS and Internet to work? If you haven't, look into that. If you have... then it sounds weird. I am sure I read something similar to your problem around recently.

I just got a Dash from T-Mobile and I do have wifi, so yes you should definately have it also.
[HTC Excalibur] mentalmummy:
That`s what I thought, using a registry editor I can see that under HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\WLAN it has two values

one says DEFAULT and in brackets (value not set) and the other is the device name. I have been reading in one post that maybe the T Mobile models don`t have wlan hard ware. I looked at the exact wording on the ebay advert and it says "put wi fi and Bluetooth 2.0 as a extra item" whatever that means

It does not show in the comm manager though
[HTC Excalibur] mentalmummy:
I have just found that in the folder WINDOWS is a file called RemoveWiFi so I would assume there must be a way to make it enabled again?
[HTC Excalibur] HTCP4000PPC:
Busted wifi yet another ebay Dump, Busted wifi S620.
[HTC Excalibur] mentalmummy:
I think there may be a way to re enable it and hopefully someone who knows more than me about the subject can help.

I`m guessing the key is to do with the removewifi file. I opened it in notepad and it contains a load of text including bits saying to enable just 6 items (whereas with wifi enabled there should be seven I think on the manager screen).

Of course it could just be that thats the default setting for the Kavana 6.1 rom however it appears from hours of googling that the 210 (my model) is the Dash from T Mobile and not the hard ware disabled T Mobile mail so I`m hoping :)

So maybe if someone can tell me how to edit the removewifi file (is it safe to do so?) I may be able to enable the feature
[HTC Excalibur] anddep:
if you loaded kavana's rom the wifi manager should be at the bottem where it says settings under photo and you just scroll left or right and it should say wireless manager : wifi off click the silver button and it will open your comm manager then you can turn it on...if it isn't on there maybe you messed up when you loaded the rom, re-download the rom then re-boot the rom back onto your phone..
[HTC Excalibur] mentalmummy:
Thanks, I know the comms manager but it shows only bluetooth and the phone options, followed the instructions for rom properly and image appears to be fine as everything else works.

Its supposed to be the T-Mobile Dash according to the sellers advert, he refuses to answer my queries, but if it ish that should have had wi fi and when I got it there was no wi fi on the t mobile rom eithr so maybe I just got ripped off by a smeghead on ebay

Still nice phone though :)
[HTC Excalibur] rilbel:
I don't want to look like a cretin, but I have seen on ebay knock off exact copies of phones such as the Nokia N96 and they all lacked wifi. Maybe you got a knock off HTC Dash hence why no wifi? Just a thought.
[HTC Excalibur] Ghost of Jaco:
I'm not aware of any T-Mob Dash that was sold without WiFi.

Here's an idea: Reflash the phone with T-Mob's latest ROM and see if the WiFi gets installed and can be enabled. If it is/can, then you know something fubar'd when you flashed the non-OEM ROM.
[HTC Excalibur] LiverpoolFCfan:
I am pretty sure I read somewhere that the MDA Mail variant of the Excalibur sold by T-Mobile in Germany & UK did not have onboard Wi-Fi

Not sure if cross-flashing ROM can enable it - or if the hardware is not in there.
[HTC Excalibur] fliparsenal:
yyour wifiinit.lnk mustve gotten deleted, thats exactly what happens if i remove mine from windows/startup folder. im guessing that if u either reflash it, hard reset or idk if someone uploaded it for you tt download that the issue will be fix
[HTC Excalibur] mentalmummy:
The original T Mobile rom didn`t allow wifi either, it had Windows Mobile 5 on then. I will have to see how to create a wifiinit.lnk file and where to place it.
[HTC Excalibur] vivid22:
Hi!

I own both a unbranded HTC S620 and the German MDA mail. Im a alert by the fact that u stated that the model name under the battery as EXCA210. Because that is exactly what I have in my German wifi-disabled MDA mail. The wifi-enabled HTC S620 on the other hand reads EXCA200.

However, it is very easy in fact to determine if your Excalibur (whatever the model) is one of those "handicapped" MDA mails.

How does the case look? Is it all black? Not like the new US Dash but a metallic, black paint on the front cover? Plus, a MDA mail only has the "Designed for Windows Mobile" logo on the back and nothing else!

Usually, all the ROMs automatically detect whether WiFi is available or not. If the WiFi option is shaded grey and not applicable in the CommManager then I'm very sorry but to tell u that either the WiFi Module is broken or you've got one of the MDA mails. I can approve of that since I am easily able to check this for both of my phones.

Googling for EXCA210 and finding that it is a T-Mobile Dash doesnt change the fact...that is usually some confusion about that. Even on the Excalibur-Wiki and the smartphone-db, they list the MDA mail as wifi-enabled which it is, obviously not.

EDIT: Oh, and btw. There is no way of enabling the WiFi on a MDA Mail.

It simply lacks the WiFi-onboard module!
[HTC Excalibur] mentalmummy:
I have to admit the seller who won`t reply to me at all says its a T Mobile Dash with optional Wi Fi and Bluetooth 2.0 in his advert on ebay, however it seems to me to be an MDA instead.

Its a UK one, jet black as you describe complete with ten silver numeric keys and I`m thinking the seller just is a rip off merchant!
[HTC Excalibur] vivid22:
Alright mate, then u got a MDA mail..sorry to hear that. It's not a bad phone though..its a q nice contrast to all the other silver ones...but yet, very disappointing withouth WiFi. To be honest, I reckon the seller didnt even know what he was selling, and just copied the data from the normal HTC S620. Very little people know about this crucial difference between the two..however, he should have been one of those..:rolleyes:

Have you got a link to the bespoken product on ebay?
[HTC Excalibur] roloracer:
HTC MDA Mail

Is this your phone? http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/03/12/t-mobile_ships_mda_mail/ I got to say that I really like the looks of it, even though it doesn't have wifi, is a nice phone. Is there anything else different from the dash? regarding apps and features.