yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] xombi:
Stupid question time:

After I flash a new radio and install the Rilphone.dll, if I flash another ROM after that, will I need to re-install the Rilphone.dll? I know the radio stays the same, but Rilphone is applied to the internal memory and then when you re-flash, it deletes everything... or so that's what I'm thinking.

maybe not. :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] P1Tater:
Yes, once you flash a new rom, it overwrites the rilphone.dll so you will need to reinstall the rilphone.dll that you are wanting.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
Blackstone Radio 1.13.25.24 rilphone & cab

Credit to schlitzohr1812 over in the Blackstone forum.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mindfrost82:
WOOT!!!!! Thanks! Maybe this will help with the battery drain!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ZebProctor:
OK, this is frustrating. AT&T Fuze, I have the 5.05.405.1 WWE ROM, and I have tried the copying of the rilphone2.dll, changing the registry key, soft reset, soft reset again... no luck, radio is still listed at 1.11.25.01.... I have done the HardSPL unlock obviously to get the WWE ROM on there..... I then tried the RAPH 1.12.25.19 CAB file as well but again, no luck...... something I'm missing here? I've read about 15 threads with dozens of pages, and I'm at my wits end.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] krogoth:
You have to FLASH radio! You can get one from radio thread in this section and then install coresponding Rillphone cab! Rillphone is just a layer beetwen OS and radio ROM, it will not change info in system properties.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ZebProctor:
So if I perform these steps, it will flash the radio and not "hard reset" the phone correct? Also, if you have to flash, what's the purpose of the rilphone method?

Flashing via MicroSD Card

1. Make sure your microSD is Formatted to fat32 using a PC (you dont have to delete all files but it is safer if you do).

2. Download your prefered Radio from the Raphael Rom Develpoment Page and unzip/unrar it to your computer.

3. Goto the Radios Folder and rename the .nbh file to RAPHIMG.nbh

4. Copy the RAPHIMG.nbh file to the root of your microSD Card.

5. Plug the microSD Card into the phone.

6. Press and hold the volume down button, then press the reset button with the stylus. Release the volume down button when bootloader tricolour screen appears.

7. Follow the onscreen instructions to start flashing.

8. After the flash finishes press the reset button with the stylus to reset the device.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] krogoth:
Well... First of all, make sure you have your phone "Security Unlocked", if not, you can't flash any other radio than Raphael one. Enter Bootloader mode (vol- & reset) - if you will see RED "Security Unlocked" text on the upper of the screen - that means that everything is ok and ready to flash. If not You have to unlock your device first (check on XDA wiki how to do it).

Then just download selected radio, connect your phone to pc via usb in bootloader mode, wait for drivers to be installed automatically, and then run Raphael Custom Wrapper or any other from the unzipped directory with downloaded radio. Then just follow instrucions on the screen.

After that, you can install coresponding rillphone.

there are manty toutorials on the board... just seek for them.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] efrant:
You are correct: if you perform those steps, you will flash the radio only, and it will not "hard rest" the device. However, you should really read this before flashing anything: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=448008

Make sure you flash Olinex's hard SPL before flashing anything, and if you want to flash a non-Raphael radio, ensure you security-unlock your device.

You install the rilphone after you flash the radio, not instead of flashing the radio...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mykkk:
Guys - I wouldn't recommend anyone installs the new rilphone cab posted earlier in the thread.

Not according to this post anyway

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3574318&postcount=221
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
That's not the cab that's posted in this thread. I created this one myself, and tested it, and it works fine.

That's actually the reason I didn't link to that post in the first place.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mykkk:
ah - apologies.

let me try this and report back.

EDIT - installed and radio works fine.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Imatard2006:
Downloaded the riphone cab posted in thread #40.Worked fine for me.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mindfrost82:
I was gonna say, I've been using this since the file was posted lol.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dannyng:
I installed rilphone.dll cab and then installed the Radio 1.3xx (previous version 1.10xxx).

After I soft rest the HD, it take quite some time to turn on and once it is on, it did not ask for pin code. When I go to communication setting to turn on the phone, it did not ask for the pin code and not able to activate the phone.

The system is very very slow.

After I removed the rilphone.dll, everything work fine.

I reinstalled the rilphone.dll again and problem re-occur. I removed again and it work.

Question: Do I really need to install the rilphone.dll?

Cheers...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
Did you install the rilphone cab from this thread, or the Blackstone thread? The one in the BS thread was created incorrectly, and is reported to be causing the symptoms you're describing.

You do not need to install the rilphone associated with a radio for it to work. It is recommended, however, as it may optimize radio performance.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dannyng:
Thanks for replying. I installed the cab from this thread.

Ok, will see if the radio without rilphone work fine. After more than

6 hours, it looks good, will monitor on the battery life.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] stepw:
*May* optimize radio performance in what way exactly? Are there any proven facts that matching rilphone.dll does make a difference?

The differences in various rilphone.dll drivers of WWE ROMs are likely to be minor to maintain compatibility with old and future radio versions. Carrier specific ROMs may include rilphone.dll with more customizations, but in most cases those will be specific to the carrier. This said, I think updating rilphone.dll makes as much sense as updating radio in general. However IMO the improvements implemented in newer RIL drivers are not specific to radio ROM version, so it's not as important to match them.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
I agree. I think that using a rilphone.dll that is specific for your individual carrier is likely more effective than one that just happened to come with a specific radio . . . unless that new radio/ROM offer new commands that are not available with previous versions. Its unlikely that will be the case with a WWE ROM. Thus my use of the word *may*.

Some have reported decreased battery drain using a rilphone that came with a specific radio. Either that's simply the placebo effect, or there could be a case for the joining of the two, as a rilphone for a specific radio may manage commands more efficiently. Again, this is really all pure speculation. For additional information/speculation on the rilphone debate (as well as actual facts) please see:

Da_G's post in

[RES] RILPHONE.DLL and "how to" with a Radio

AND

AllTheWay's post in

[RADIO] [WIKI] Blackstone Radios - Updated 5 April 1.13.25.24 & dll
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] djkasmic:
where can i find working rilphone.dll for 1.13.25.24?? i´ve copied the rilphone2.dll to windows-folder and changed the registry. then i did a soft-reset but the phone stays in airplane mode. changed back the registry, soft reset and now it´s working again.

allthatway wrote in his thread to copy the rilphone and then to flash the radio?? is this a must??

i am using htc stock-rom on my raphael.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] P1Tater:
Post 2 of this thread has a working cab of the rilphone.dll that you are looking for. I first flash the radio and then install the cab but others do it the other way so I do not think there is a definite way preferred over the other.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] djkasmic:
@ P1Tater: i´ve installed the cab from 2nd post and now it´s working fine.

thanks!!!1
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Ryu:
Hi guys.

I'm facing a serious problem with Rilphone and I was hoping someone could help me.

Some general info... I have a T-Mobile variant of the Raphael (Vario 4), SIM/HardSPL/Security unlocked with Olipro's solution.

I've been using At0m V5.2 ROM since it was release, with Raph's radio 1.12.25.19 with 0 problems until last night.

Last night I foolishly decided to install Rilphone on my device, so I installed Raph_1_02_25_19.cab from this thread.

Everything seemed fine. After receiving 200-300 SMS, my device's audio was gone, so I had to restart it to fix this problem (I used to have such problems with my Tytn2, when receiving many SMS, but NEVER with my Raphael).

Anyway, after a while, I found my Raphael switched off, so I switched it on... all fine.

Later today, I found my Raphael switched off again (battery was full), and it wouldn't switch on!!! It won't respond when plugged to the charger, or USB.

I tried to soft reset, hardreset, or enter bootloader, with no luck. The phone won't switch on at all.

I also tried removing SIM & SD, and left battery out for some time, with no luck. I also tried another battery.

At one point, the device switched on, but couldn't "see" my SIM card. But I was stupid enough not to uninstall the Rilphone instantly! I restarted my phone trying to fix the "SIM not found" problem, and here I am again... having a dead black brick in my hands.

Has anybody got any idea how to get out fo this situation? Any advice is welcome.

Sorry for posting in this thread, but I believe it was Rilphone that killed my Raph :(

Thank you in advance.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] P1Tater:
I don't belive the .dll is what caused your issue. I just dont see how installing a driver on your device would brick your device. I've installed that exact .dll at least 10+ times and I'm still functioning properly. For some reason, it sounds as if you have some sort of power issue whether it be with the battery or the battery connections. I've also heard of this same thing happening to those who do not use the supplied charger with the raph but I doubt that is your issue. I might try checking with T-mobile and see if it is still under warranty. I just doubt very seriously it was the rilphone.dll that caused your issue. Like I said, I've installed that exact dll at least 10+ times since it's been released and I'm still not having any issues at all.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help.:confused:

Cheers,

Tater
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Ryu:
Thank you for your reply. It's weird indeed... and the most weird thing, is that I managed to start my phone again, after 100's of attempts under various conditions (on/of thecharger, SIM/no SIM, SD/no SD, etc).

It's the second time, that the phone starts only when the SIM card inserted. As soon as the phone started, I received an SMS, and phone died again :/

After several dozen of more attempts, I managed to get it to turn on (SIM card inside again), and immediately enabled flight mode, uninstalled the rilphone and rebooted.

After that, it appears to work flawlessly. Rebooted several times for testing, and received 600+ SMS so far, with no problem at all.

I don't know why that happened... one thing is for sure though... I won't be installing rilphone again anytime soon! :)

Thank you once again for your time P1Tater. Keep up the good work
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] AllTheWay:
The .cab doesn't work for me on the HD. I haven't found a single user in the Blackstone forum that has got the .cab to work.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] fhk:
As a side dish popular radios show!

P1Tater, beautiful effort. And as a side dish the popular radios show in the view count. Must say, the BS .16 is the best for me yet. Seems others have the same experience ;-)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] P1Tater:
Is it staying in airplane mode? What's it doing? Better yet, hit me up on MSN and we will work on it.

BTW, what have you been up to lately. Long time no see.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] AllTheWay:
My phone boots up fine at first but then after a while it just hangs for me. I am unable to do anything besides just soft resetting.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] P1Tater:
New raph 1.14.25.05 rilphone zip and cab added.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] JFlitt:
Using Raph_1.14.25.05.cab right now with the EnergyRom work well!

I wonder, if i uninstall the cab does it also remove the rilphone?

Thanks!

JFlitt
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] P1Tater:
Yes, it will remove your installed .dll
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dazza7111:
rilphone2.dll cab.

Raphael Radio_1.12.25.19 rilphone2.dll cab.

Hi was just thinking why not make cab like this:

with rilphone2.dll and the registry:

HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIN\RIL\ and change the value for "DLL" to rilphone2.dll.

so if there was any bother you could just remove cab with old rilphone

still intact?????
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] DomFel:
If I use a Raphael radio on my security unlocked Diamond, should I install the Raphael rilphone or not?

Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hjlow:
i am doing that on my diamond, but haven't really noticed any difference yet
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
You don't need to do that at all. Uninstalling the cab will restore your original rilphone. No need to have it point elsewhere. I know, because I've done it. Many, many times. Actually, since a lot of people have been hacking the registry to point to a renamed rilphone, I've actually been including the reg key (in the cab) to have it point to the correct one. Otherwise, installing the cab will just put an extra file in your Windows folder you're not actually using. It's much cleaner doing it with the existing cabs, and leaving the reg hacking alone.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] RaudelJr:
I've been reading quite a lot on Radios and dll, but I'm, yet, So Confused!!

I have an ATT Fuze with the Stock ROM.

I was hoping I can get as much from the Leaked ATT Test Rom on my Stock Rom without having to flash my phone with the ATT Test Rom.

I've read the the Radio inside the Leaked TEST rom is much better and provides GPS satellite connection in seconds.

• Is there A way for me to change my stock radio with the radion inside the Leaked ROM?

• If yes, can someone provide me the link to a cab installation and with all the required DLLs if I need any dlls?

• Also if anyone can direct my to any other forum providing extracted applications/ cabs from the ATT Test Rom that I can install on my Stock ATT Fuze ROM I would Really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance.

Raudel
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Dr.Tenma:
What does those dll's ? And does it works for Diamond ?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] etsong:
I'm not so familiar with the rilphone.dll, but I'm very interesting in it because I changed the RADIO for my HTC Raphael without updating the ROM. I hope the rilphone.dll changing will helpful to my Raphael especially the GPS, but at the same time I'm worrying the RADIO might be unworkable if without patch the NK.exe (Somebody were saying such issue.) Could you make me sure that the CABs will be no problem even if without the NK.exe to be patched?

ROM: 5.07.832.3 CHT

RADIO: 1.12.25.19

Many thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] P1Tater:
1. Flashing the radio has nothing to do with whether or not the nk.exe is patched or not. As long as you flash a Raphael radio (since I doubt you are Security Unlocked) the radio will work regardless of the nk.exe being patched or not.

2. The rilphone.dll just makes sure the phone functions with the radio properly and effeciently. Actually, it does a lot more but thats the simple breakdown of it.

3. The cabs in this thread will work if your nk.exe is not patched and as well as if it is patched. Just read a couple of the users who have reported it working for them. I even tested it myself on a rom I knew that did not have the nk.exe patched (mine).
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Nargg:
Noticeable Difference....

I'm using one of EnergyRom's builds. Never really had any problems with battery, but the idea behind this thread interested me. I installed the .dll that corresponded with the radio I'm using and WOW the difference was very noticable. The throughput increased to the highest level I've ever seen. And the battery life seems to have increase at least 20% if not more.

I installed it by backing up the old .dll file and manually replacing it with a new one. Unsure if that worked, I also used one of the .cab installs *shrug*... anyway, the difference was worth talking about!

I did have battery issues with an EnergyRom 2.0 build, maybe I'll try this idea on one of those builds now. Hmmmm....
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] P1Tater:
Glad it worked for you. Thanks for sharing your experience.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] eXPerience1983:
Hi! I'm searching for the Rilphone.dll for the diamond's radio 1.13 (the original one, not SecurityUnlocked)

I see the 1.13 BlackStone version on the first post, but I don't know if it is valid or not.

anyone has tested something like this?

sorry for my English

I tested the BS rilphone.dll on my diamond Official 2.03 rom but it turns crazy, I have no GSM connection, I uninstalled and everything works ok
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] iboj007:
P1Tater,

Which CAB do you recommend using for 1.12.25.19? The one which you posted on page 1 or the one on a subsequent page posted by another user called Rilphone2.dll 1.12.25.19.cab ?

Does your cab install rilphone.dll or rilphone2.dll with a corresponding reg. entry? What happens to the current rilphone.dll on my phone?

Thanks in advance!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] P1Tater:
The one I posted does not install the rilphone2.dll and the regs. What mine does is overwrite the original rilphone.dll. However, if you uninstall the cab it restores the original rilphone.dll leaving no remnants of the cab'ed rilphone.dll. Personally I prefer the cab without the rilphone2.dll and regs but it's just a preference for me. I believe the rilphone2.dll and the regs are unnecessary since chainfire produced an app that allows us to overwrite the ROM dll's properly.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] P1Tater:
Latest Xperia 1.14.25.55 Rilphone added.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
WARNING

You might not want to install that Xperia rilphone cab, if you don't have an Xperia.

I just installed it, clicked "Ok" when prompted to restart, and now my phone gets stuck at the boot-up screen.

I'll be hard-resetting to correct, but I figured I'd warn everyone first. Is this the first Xperia rilphone we've gotten?

Could it be that, while the radios are compatible because of the chipset similarities, that the rilphone is not, due to other differences?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] P1Tater:
You my friend are correct. Same thing happened to me. Hard reset fixed it but nonetheless X1 rilphone.dll is a no go. It has to be exactly as you stated. Ill keep playing with it but for now everyone needs to be prepared that it might not work and a hard reset might be in your near future.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] weishulee:
:p:p Great job. Thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] P1Tater:
@ everyone,

I'm still working with the new X1 rilphone but I as of yet have not had any luck in getting it to work. It installs, but upon reboot, the device locks at the first boot screen thus forcing me to Hard Reset.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] euphoria47:
Hey Captain_Throwback & P1tater,

Just an idea but what radios were you using when you tried the X1 rilphone cab? Was it one of the ported Xperia radios, or something else?

Maybe for some reason the rilphone in this case must be combined with the appropriate radio. Or is the freeze occurring before the radio and rilphone have had a chance to interact, spelling a ROM issue?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] wpearson:
FYI, I did a soft reset before flashing the new Xperia radio and I locked up as well (using Raph 1.14.25.05). Sounds like bad or incompatible dll.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
I flashed the radio first, then installed the rilphone.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] P1Tater:
I've even tried multiple roms. I've tried 2 WM6.5 roms and 3 WM6.1 roms and still no luck, so I do not think it is a rom issue. I believe the issue is our devices compatibility with the .dll but I could be way off. I'm still not real sure what is causing it, but I'm still trying. However, I am also getting tired of Hard resetting constantly and not having a working phone. But, I'll keep playing and see if I can get it to work but it does not look good that any solution is in the near future.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] thunder6290:
Xperia Radio 1.14.25.55

One question .

if we install the radio without the rilphone.dll file, it will work or still it will freez the phone at boot up ?

Thunder
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] nitroproductions:
it will work without rilphone.dll
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] P1Tater:
Yes, the radio works fine. I'm sorry if I made you believe it was the radio. It is the rilphone that freezes the device. The radio works flawlessly.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] thunder6290:
Thanks for both of the answers.

I'll ask for a review in radio section to see how the radio works without the dll . I mean if we can see any improvements or not .

Tnx again

Thunder
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] codedeveloper:
Just tried upgrading the radio on my Raphael to 1.14.25.05. The radio upgrade works no problem, and the device works as it should afterwards, yet I can't get the rilphone cab (Raph_1.14.25.05.cab) to install.

It's strange because I can upgrade both radio and rilphone to version 1.12.25.19 no problem.

Device is a standard UK Raphael, standard ROM 5.05.405.1 WWE, Hard_SPL'd.

Even straight after a hard reset, when I launch the 1.14.25.05 rilphone cab it just hangs with the wait cursor displayed forever (yet the 1.12.25.19 rilphone installs straight away without any problems!

Both radios are standard raph radios from post #2 of the raphael radio thread.

Both rilphone cabs are from post #4 in this thread.

What am I missing?? :confused:

I know I dont strictly need rilphone installed, but I wanted to see if it will improve my battery life. With the data connection inactive the battery will last for days, but when connected via HSDPA, even with no apps running it only lasts about 5 hours!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] P1Tater:
Maybe the cab got corrupted in the transfer. Try to download the cab again and copy it to your device (not the SD card) and see if that helps. I've tried every cab before I uploaded them and they all worked.:confused:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] codedeveloper:
Thanks for the quick response :)

Well, I downloaded the rilphone cab again and binary compared it with the old file - exact match. However I copied the cab file to the device instead of the SD card and it works! Never encountered that before :confused:

So, now everything's installed let's see if battery life improves with this radio/rilphone combo... (fingers crossed)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] P1Tater:
I've had the same thing happen to me before. Her'es what I do. When that happens, no matter what I do, I cant get that one file to install. So, I copy everything on my SD card to my PC and then reformat my SD card. Copy everything back to my SD card and the problem file wull install. I believe it's just a corrupted sector on the SD card that's repaired once you format, or at least it's written over. Any way, once I perform those steps, the problem file will install and my problem disappears.