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[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] sonnybravo:
hmmm...that is strange. I take it you already tried a soft reset? ;)

Do the links still work on the internet tab (although you removed them in the settings)?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Krillo:
Hi!

Yes they do work, because they never left the phone :)

Really annoying actually, and now I am deathly afraid of adding more ...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] skulk3r:
Hi guys,

I don't know if this is the right forum to post on..

but I have a question relating to adding a Custom Tab in TF3D to display a custom program.

Is there an app out there that allows you to add your own custom tab? I would like to have a tab to run a third party app. Or is that a ROM thing?

Do I just change the registry in the manila files?

Also, is there a guide for noobs to understanding how TF3D works? I've had a look at the wiki and it lists all the manila files and their functions, but I'm not sure how they work (e.g.: Can I just 'add' an extra entry into a manila file and get an extra tab?)

Much appreciated if someone can point me in the right direction!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] skulk3r:
Really??? No one??

Wow....

Okay then, I'll give it a shot myself. I have basically no programming experience (aside from high school VB and a little HTML :p and I read a little C++ in 24 hours...I got to the 6th hour and got lost :p) but it seems to me that editing various manila files (e.g.: 269*_manila) seems to be the way to go.

I'm on holidays at the moment, so I will get to it next week, but here's the plan of attack:

1) Find a manila file that lists the tabs and duplicate a tab entry but change the name (from various online readings it seems like it's 269**338_manila or something)

2) Find all the references and links that manila file has and duplicate those (obviously under a new name)

3) Duplicate the mode9 file, and see if I can't create a replicated tab of an existing tab

4) Change the mode9 file

5) Realise that I don't actually know how to do that, and find out how to use mode9editor as well as learn how to read the stuff that comes up

6) Cry a little

7) Play around some more

Any pointers from people who've tried? Or know more than I do (which, I am guessing, is most of you)

Oh, by all means, try yourself. And then post here.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] jorra:
BIG thanks to Shmilson and rr69 for their work!!!

There's a new kid on the block, rr69's modded cab without the new drivers... I'd try this first (read his post to understand why):

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3511566&postcount=128

rr69's lite cab, just the driver, no graphics:

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=162761&d=1236030009

Shmilsons QVGA skinned cab:

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=162900&d=1236070663

Check out mskips thread with a alternative solution:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=493118

Here's how to set up ICR on your Kaiser :

1. Install the cab of your choice (Shmilsons for QVGA skinned version or rr69 if you are happy with your current skin).

2. Install Vito Audio Notes or any recording software of your choice (I'm using Vito Audio Notes for touch 1.02)

3. Soft reset

4. Make a call, when your'e connected use the menu (bottom left corner) and choose start recording. Wait a couple of seconds, then hang up.

5. Start your recording software and put it to automatic record calls

6. DONE!

If it's not working for you, you could try this:

1. Install .NET compact framework: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...49-3c6b-42f1-9fd9-0041345b3385&displaylang=en

2. If the "Start Recording" doesn't appear, try to uninstall your dialer skinn (or turn it off), soft reset. Try to record a call again, if it works you can reinstall your skinn.

People are looking for the reason why it's working for some and just not at all for others. As soon we have a clue I'll post it here.

Notes:

I don't have to do anything after a soft reset, Vito records everything by default.

Vito records all calls WITH BOTH YOUR OWN AND THE CALLERS VOICE, Vito will name the files according to your contacts (or info in google maps if your'e using any numbers from google).

Now you can record your calls and listen to both parties without any annoying hassle like using the speakerphone!!!

There's no beeps or any other way the caller can hear that your'e recording with this setup... Illegal in some countries, it's your responsibility! =)

Below: Picture shows Vito Audio Notes Touch interface...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] rafgerm:
no go

Unfortunately my Kaiser says that ICR in not valid windows :mad: application on matter what I do. It seem the problem is in ICR.exe because other components install just fine. And of course Vito records only me speaking.

Anyway the fact that it is possible to record both parties makes me optimistic. Maybe the day will come that I will have my advanced, expensive WMphone do what every cheap simple eric or nokia can do for over 5 years :rolleyes:

I run stock Orange rom 6.0 (maybe that's a problem)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] jorra:
It say's that for me too... Ignore it, you don't need to open the app, it's just for settings anyways. Just follow the steps and use Vito (or resco or what you prefer).

It still mess up your graphics though.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] GLO:
do you have a screenshot of ICR?

I have been using Vito AudioNotes (on my Kaiser) for months now and when i want to record a call i must have it on Speakerphone, but i simply cover the speaker phone with my finger to reduce the volume so others dont listen in on the conversation.

pls show me what the ICR graphic is?

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] jorra:
I don't have a clue what it looks like, can't open it. The phone just use the drivers from the cab, I'm using Vito Audio Notes and it works like a charm. Callers and my own voice crystal clear. Had some minor glitches on some calls during the day but overall fantastic!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] jorra:
Any developers reading this? would be nice with a clean cab for kaiser! =)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] jorra:
Since I haven't come up with a solution to the graphic problem I simple disabled caller skin with Advanced Config and using Windows ugly thing for the time beeing... AT least it works, recording calls are more important (for me anyways). :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] khaytsus:
I'm confused, what's this doing that Vito doesn't do? Is it going between the two? I know on the Kaiser most other recording software can't record the outgoing conversation, so no question there, just wondering how this enables it to work.

And is it progressing? No messing with the phone? And does it stay forever, or do you have to do this each reset? Each call?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] SpiritFyre:
roomy and i editing icr program stuff to work on kaiser so hang tight :P
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] jorra:
Whoooopieee! Thanks a million! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] jorra:
Yes, this goes in between... There was an old audio driver for windows called virtual audio cable, it catched the sound (data) before it reached the audiocard and then you could route it to where ever you liked. This is pretty much the same thing.

So you can use Vito or any other app. The ICR just reroute the audio so that it ends up in the right place.

You have to use 'start recording' from the dialer menu after every soft reset but just for the first call. After that the 'driver' is activated and Vito will recieve audio for both parties of a conversation.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] khaytsus:
Hopefully it can be worked out so this is not a battery drain, and can be automated.

I wonder why Vito etc don't do this themselves?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] jorra:
I haven't noticed any battery drain and Iv'e set up Vito to record every call for the last 3 days so it looks promising.

Vito and/or Resco probably would if they could, this driver comes from HTC and I guess it's easier for the hardware vendor to create this than for a software developer. HTC don't need to make it work for any other brand or model, just for the device they choose. That's why... I guess... But what do I know, I'm nothing but a sound engineer... :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] bigbluebeetle:
Fix for graphics problem

Great find! This program does exactly what I need it to do, and with Audio Notes, I can maintain a record of all conversations. Very useful indeed! It's already saved me a couple of times by recording conversations where someone told me a phone number that I had to remember because I didn't have any way to write it down while driving.

I tried installing MBarvian's Opal Phone Canvas, and that seems to fix the graphics problem. The recording still works as before. Also, I can run the ICR executable, and it seems to be very similar to Audio Notes, although the vga graphics don't display correctly on my tilt...

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AT&T Tilt currently running ParleyP's Phoenix version 2.16
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] djshorty:
How to uninstall IRC?

How can i revert back, my battery status and caller skin?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] rr69:
Hi All,

*** STRIPPED ICR CAB ***

Started off by downloading the cab mentioned in the starting post. Then i removed all the skin and other irrelevant file and registry entries in the cabfile. Which left me with a working ICR "lite" cabfile.

Just follow the same procedure described in the start post but instead use this cab.

It won't ruin the phoneskin because it has been stripped.

No guarantees, but this cab works fine for me..

Regards,

RR69
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] khaytsus:
I'm curious to see how this works for folks. :) Next step, make this automagically work after resets, etc.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] rr69:
I tested that, and it does automaticly work after a soft reset. Here's what i did until now.

(The Sashimi part and hard reset is optional)

I installed the cabfile (ICRKaiser.cab) and Vito audionotes 1.37 on my tytnII. Started audionotes, and edited the settings so the app automaticly records calls on my stroragecard in low quality mp3 format. Did a soft reset, and made the first call and selected "Start Recording" from the menu in the "normal" phone app. (Ended the call after a few seconds)

All the calls after that ar automaticly recorded by audionotes even after a softreset. Both sides are recorded... (You dont have to use "Start Recording" from the phone app. Vito does it all automaticly.)

--------------------

Sashimi automation! (see: http://www.winmo-experts.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4)

copied:

"\Program Files\VITO\Audionotes\settings.ini" to

"Storage Card\SASHIMI\AUTO\Root\Program Files\VITO\Audionotes\settings.ini"

Copied

"ICRKaiser.cab" and "VitoAudioNotes.cab" to

"Storage Card\SASHIMI\AUTO\CAB\ICRKaiser.cab"

"Storage Card\SASHIMI\AUTO\CAB\VitoAudioNotes.cab"

------------------------

So when i do a hard reset, and Sashimi has installed the cabfiles and copied the ini file, every works right away. and survives softresets

B.t.w. if you dont want the automatic call recording function you can skip the Vito Audionotes installation. The recording option in the Phone menu also works for two side call recording. It saves the recording in: "\My Documents\Recording\"

Regards, RR69
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] shmilson:
Updated CAB file with QVGA skin for ICR applet

I've updated the "lite" CAB mentioned above with the ICR applet that was originally on the CAB floating around and skinned it to QVGA. Only for portrait nowbut I'll try to update it once more if I have the time. I've also overwrote the BEEP and BEEPBEEP sounds with silent WAV files, so no sound is made when starting/stopping recordings.

The applet let's user set format of recording (AMR or WAV) and if to save them on memory or card. It then shows a list of recorded conversations that can be played on the app itself.

It can be used stand-alone if one wants to manually start recording selected conversations or with the procedure on the first post of this thread for the automatic mode.

And as RR69 said here: "No guarantees, but this cab works fine for me..

"

And to think about a few months ago, no one could believe we could do ICR on HTC devices! Ha!

shmilson
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] rr69:
Cool,

I just stripped the whole vga ICR application out of the cabfile. Nice to see that someone took the time to reskin it to qvga.

The only thing i would like to find out if the volume of the recordings can be set to be a bit louder.

Regards RR69
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] rr69:
The volume of all recordings isn't very high, but there shouldn't be a big difference between your own voice and the other party. I always use a headset to listen back the recordings because the volume is low.

I'm now using the PDA Ultimate X-V2 Premium version in combination with ICRQVGA-230309.cab which is working fine. Both parties about the same volume, but not very loud.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] rr69:
If you installed "ICRQVGA-230309.cab" and you record using the "Record" option in the phone menu when in a call, you can change the path in the ICR application.

Start/Programs/ICR

In ICR:

Menu/Options - Select Card (instead of Device)

Now your recordings will be saved on your storage card.

When you use Vito Audio notes for your recordings:

Start/Programs/Audio Notes

In Audio Notes:

Menu/Recording/Record to...: Select Storage Card.

For information about "ICRQVGA.CAB" - http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3511566&postcount=128
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mskip:
Resco Audio Recorder v4.51 has a great tool which is useful for recording voices.

Under Action, Tools, Filters you can enable the "Gain Control". If you set it to 4-Louder then incoming recorded voices will be extremely clear and loud.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] kcrumbley:
Have you run into any problems using Resco? I know that I have seen complaints about missing calls, or the device freezing during calls while using Resco. Does this happen with the Kaiser as well?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] rr69:
Now that sounds interesting. I didn't try that tool. Im gonna get me a evaluation copy..

Thanks..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mskip:
Let me know how you get on with it and how the gain control affects your recordings :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mskip:
I dont set it to auto record as I have no need to record every conversation I have, just business calls that I need to get info from at a later date. My kaiser has never frozen during a recording and it always records all the conversation clearly and very loud (with the audio gain filter used).

I think there was problems with older versions but as long as you use the latest version then you should be fine.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] catmhm:
thanks man :):):)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] rr69:
Hmm.. i switched from Vito audio notes to Resco audio recorder, and indeed the gain function is very nice, but it only gains my voice, and not the voice of the other party..

Am I missing something?

Resco has more usefull features than Vito..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mskip:
Resco has alot more features than Vito. The gain control on my phone makes the incoming callers voice alot louder, are you using your icr cab or the registry patch i made? Im using Resco with my registry patch and it works great, loud clear voices everytime :)

I have attached my registry settings for you to maybe look at or just import and see if it changes anything.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] rr69:
I imported yr regfie, didn't change a thing for me ...

I use my cabfile, but i removed the driver dll's and incorporated the same registry tweaks you use. So there shouldn't be the problem. The only difference between yr cab and mine is that mine has the icr application included.

Also the rom, spl and radio are the same you use. The only difference is the hardware, I use the MDA Vario III from T-Mobile, and you the TytnII from HTC.

From my findings i suspect that the gain function in Resco only amplifies the mic input and not the callers voice. But you seem to have other results?!?!

Im going to try yr cabfile to prove to myself I am not a complete NooB... ;-)

I'll post the results when im done..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] nobusquesnada:
Hi Guys!

Im'new in this of smartphones. I have a HTC Kaiser too and can't record 2 sides conversation. Then I found this thread, try everything you guys said but doesn't work... YET!

Looking for other methods to fix this same problem I find this:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\AUDIOGAIN]"AUDIO_DEBUG_FLAG"=dword:00000040 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL]"RingingAddressId"=dword:00000000 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\WaveDev]"VocRecPath"=dword:00000002 install any auto recording software and the call will record.

What do you guys think about this method?

(Sorry but I'm not english speaker)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] corepda:
ICR didn't work for me. It says installation unsuccessful. Any solution. A QVGA cab would be great. Thanks for the idea brother.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] rr69:
Which cabfile did you use? the one in the startpost, mine, or the qvga one?..

Which rom are you using?.. I use the PDAultimate V18, it runs fine on that one..

Regards RR69
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] khaytsus:
Cool! Any idea if this can be done from a different dialer? I'm using this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=395086
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] jorra:
It's already working! I installed this dialer (the black one) and it's all good! =)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] jorra:
I uninstalled ICR cause I wanted to test the two new cabs by rr69 and Shmilson.

I discovered that Vito still recorded all calls so I guess the audio driver where left behind. So now I don't have the start recording button but Vito still records, exactly the way I want it! :)

khaytsus: Thanks for the dialer skin tip! I'm now using the black version by Sean222!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] djshorty:
how did you uninstall IRC?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] rr69:
Unfortunatly i found out that only a hard reset will remove the drivers.

The Cab Shmilson made includes a ICR application. So if you only want to record phonecalls whitout the use of an other thirdparty application i would suggest you use the Shmilson cab. In addition to this cab you can also install a third party application for recording conversations automaticly

My cab only includes the driver, not the ICR application. You can record calls with this cab, but it doesn't include the ICR application. This is handy when you only use a third party application for recording phonecalls.

Both cabs won't make any changes to your installed phoneskin... i checked that.

If you first install the rr69 cab, and you find that you would like the extra functionality featured in the Shmilson cab just uninstall the RR69 cab and install the Shmilson cab. The Shmilson cab only has more files, it is an addition to the RR69 cab so it wont break the install.

Regards,

RR69
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] khaytsus:
Yay! And the "Start Recording" option is in the menus? I was afraid being a different dialer those menus might differ.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] jorra:
No, but Vito still records so I don't care! :)

If I can find the time I'll try a new clean installation and see if the "start recording" appears in this skin. But I'm pretty sure it will!?!?? Maybe some dev or chef allready know?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] freewind29:
Thanks for the great works! But which dialer do you guys use? Because I can't find "Start recording" option from the menu of my dialer?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] khaytsus:
I guess the real question was if one could initiate this with that skin already installed. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] gobbet:
I have same problem. After installing ICR and Vito Audio Notes Touch and restart PPC haven't otion "Start recording" in the menu of dialer.

I use eOS.4.888.FiRe ROM with default dialer (i tried also Minimal dialer from XDA) and radio Polaris 1.59.44.02.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] rr69:
The "start recording" option in the menu only appears when you are in a call.

RR69
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] thex:
what other recording software can be used since Vito is $$??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] freewind29:
Thanks for your reply! But I couldn't find the "start recording" even the call is connected, maybe the cab file was not installed correctly, or not working with the rom I am using(21109 build).:confused:

Anyway, I tried both cabs and I can find a ICR icon in program files, but nothing happend when I taped on it, whatever in a call or not!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] rmask:
is it possible to make the sound louder?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] rr69:
I have the same problem.. Setting the audiogain regkey in the htc application doesn't work..

Still searching for alternative ways...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] jorra:
You should be able to use any software, I've only tried it with Vito but this is a bit like installing a new audiohardware, all sound will go thru this new "hardware" so all programs using audio will use this driver.

hmmm, not that good explaination but in theori all programs should work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] nokiarish:
fantastic work

tons of thanks for the application.. ive been waiting for this facility on my kaiser for months and then i lost hope untill i installed this......

working like charm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! once again thanks:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] redmercury:
not working

I have tried both cabs, with and without Vito, in different ROMs and the result is the same, I can't hear the other person.:mad:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] knight2424:
same problem here. cant hear the other person unless i have the speaker on.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] rr69:
Which rom are you using? Im using the Abusalza PC Ultimate V19 WWE (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=428261) rom and its working.

The only thing i did after installing the RR69 cab was:

Installed Vito

Softresetted my phone.

Initiated a testcall

Selected start recording

Talked some nonsense

Ended the call

Configured Vito to answer my calls automaticly

Called my brother...

Bored the crap out of him..

Ended the call

Started up Vito..

Listened to a boring conversation.. ;) Two side recording works...

I also tested the other cab without Vito and it works as expected.

I just thought of something... Maybe the radio has got to do with these issues. Im using 1.65.24.36

Regards RR69
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] jorra:
Try this:

1. disable dialer skin, soft reset.

2. install ICR + Vito. soft reset...

3. check if the "start recording" pops up in the dialer menu while calling. If it does, click start recording, wait a couple seconds, hang up.

4. Activate dialer skinns again and soft reset.

See if that helps... Otherwise it could be a radio issue as rr69 says...

edit:

LEAVE THE ICR ICON ALONE; YOU DON'T NEED IT TO MAKE THIS WORK! "START RECORDING" IS IN YOUR DIALER MENU, NOT IN THE ICR APP!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] freewind29:
I update my rom to a 21169 build, and the "recording" option is appeared in the menu, but still no luck. Will try other radios and report back.