yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zelendel:
Hey Josh,

Was just running threw the new test 21729 ultra lite and maybe you noticed but I just thought I would report in. Having device update is great but .net 3.5 is not in it wont work till in is installed. Might help anyone else who tries it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] djquick:
There isn't a "most stable" 6.5 rom. All the 6.5 roms are beta so it's basically trial and error. I will say that I have beta tested all of them (anryl, josh, abu, sak, and so on), and all of them are truly wonderful in their own way.:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] joshkoss:
Thanks anryl, i'm dumping it now lol, i'll have to get a rtm rom out for everyone!! do it up nice with screenshots and diff versions. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] joshkoss:
yep thanks, i noticed that and will put 3.5 in the final . :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] joshkoss:
ok guys, New RTM build dumped from microsoft emulator is uploading to my test signature.. this build is good.. everything works perfect! kept all widgets and everything in it... enjoy!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bennyj71:
Unbelievable! Josh, I think I'll try it out. Can we do a straight install or do we need to flash a stock first?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] joshkoss:
i flashed straight and it's been running good.. but if you get some weird things going on flash oem.. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Where can I download the RTM!?

*I think I found it. Not sure why build number goes down though :P
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zelendel:
Me either but as soon at batt hits 50 ill give it a shot
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
It just seems like a non messed with build so far. You dont have to wait for battery to hit 50 btw. lol :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zelendel:
Yeah I know I could use the sd way but the only sd I have at home is a maxed out 8gb and can wait while I try to cook up a new rom for it to charge
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
You dont need 50% Id say you could flash with 10% being slightly risky but think about how long it takes to flash and how long it takes to burn 10%. You would be just fine. If it powered off during just turn device back on and hold camera and power button to boot into the bootloader. :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mikulec:
Josh, in your last 3 builds there are two "Sliding Sound" icons in settings/personal
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] djquick:
I'm gonna test the rtm as well!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pyrorob:
the duplicate sliding sound is due to the fact that the sliding sound oem package having entries for the control panel in its rgu and there being entries for it also in a provxml at oem/medkid applets/mxip_HtcApps_translation.provxml if you have the kitchen delete the sliding sounds entries in there

or if you want to delete it from your registry go to:

HKLM\ControlPanel\MyCpl\ and delete the "9" entry
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] anagarika:
Is the RTM testing the ultralight one?

Edit:

Found it .. earlier it was something with ASCII chars .. now it shows RTM ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dy2592:
I can confirm that there are 2 sliding sound icons in settings. Also I cant seem to find the commanger
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] oscarsalgar:
Man you're fast! I was just going to report my findings on 21278 but I'm already downloading the RTM test.

Anyway... 21278 is ok, a bit faster and more stable than 21275 in my opinion. My only problem is with streaming media and tv mobile. I tried three different versions of the program and none works. SJ's streaming media used to work ok in past builds, but now it completes the buffering (it actually reaches 100%) and before I can see any image, the app is closed. Has anyone managed to get mobile tv working in these builds?

Now, let's flash!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] k0l0r3k:
RTM don't have WM widgets :(

Don't have WM weather...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mikulec:
just copy commanager.lnk from windows to windows/start menu/programs
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ameiurus:
What does "RTM" stand for?

Ok this may be a bonehead question but what does "RTM" stand for here.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stylez:
Release To Manufacturing or Release To Marketing.

Same ol :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] futbolkeeper:
RTM

Is is me or does this RTM seem pretty snappy. UI and all. Thoughts?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] arjen888:
icons??

where did all the nice sharp icons went in the rtm test??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] reddragon72:
so where is everyone getting the RTM and what is the build number?

I downloaded the SDK is that where everyone is getting it?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] langers1:
The RTM is here http://www.ogware.com/downloads/roms/joshroms/Roms/Kaiser/TESTS/

Two questions though, does if have Manilla and is it full or light?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] futbolkeeper:
Live Messenger

Anyone else's live messenger not working? I'm getting a connection to server error.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Milmirex:
Hi there.

Does anyone has the Device Update CAB?, i was looking for it and can´t find it.

Sorry for the offtopic.

Regards
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] reddragon72:
I found it after I reread his post... been a long day, should have picked up on that the first time. and got the build number to.

now what about the rom... is it ready for any service? what programs are on it? and is there a plan to release a plan jane naked rom with nothing but super essentials on it? I usually have to uninstall a lot of stuff in a rom.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] djquick:
Man, all these questions......just flash it and test it to see what programs are included and what not....geez:p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] k0l0r3k:
live messenger is not working..

i get a problem with signing in

... and this version looks like normal, not full not lite without Manilla :P
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stylez:
This man talks sense :D

Can't remeber the last time i even looked @ the breakdown for whatz in a ROM :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] reddragon72:
I use my phone all day everyday, kids calling GF calling work calling, so "testing" is not something I have the luxury of doing, and besides it's not like I'm *****ing just asking a few questions about the rom. (defensive posture relaxed)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tnayrbj:
what

if 21234 is rtm then what is 21725?

I am running 725 and am pretty happy with it.

Thanks

Jon
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bennyj71:
How do you flash with under 50%? I had to wait two hours to charge my battery to flash a PDA Corner ROM. This would save me all kinds of time.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] reddragon72:
the 5xx and 7xx series is HTC rom builds or at least that is what I have been told in another post.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stylez:
If using KaiserCustomRUU.exe then it holds a protetive function to stop if the battery is bellow 50%, not sure if removing ErrorBattery.fig would stop it doing this? "not advising to do this as i'm just a guessin"

Surefire way is to use SD as it wont check :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zelendel:
Start the phone up in bootloader. Turn it off and then turn it on holding the camera button. It bypasses the check
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stylez:
Thankyou never had the check on Excalibur and has never effected me, but cool to know even though i flash from SD, handy for if pops up again :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zelendel:
Yeah I never noticed it with my EXCAL either.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bennyj71:
Thanks! You too Stylez. Phone's at 25% right now, but I've been have problems charging my with PDA Ultimate X2V2 ROM. I'd take me six hours to get to 50%. Bout to try it right now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] langers1:
I ask cos I want to know if it has Manilla or not and I want to know if it is classed as a light or full version or not as I don't want to flash my phone to find it doesn't have manilla on it or the other things Josh puts in his full version so I then have to flash it back and set the phone back to how I want it. Instead of doing that I asked the question.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] anagarika:
Asking is ok. However, you can backup first, then flash, and if not to your liking, re-flash and restore. I use SPrite Backup that comes with my Kaiser, though it's a pain (many times fail and if success, better check the backup file before flashing, make sure it works).

Anyone tested RTM? Complete Office suite (incl. Note), no Manila. Good compression (Device left with about 95Mb after I'm done with my apps installed). On 21725 Lite, I ended up with abt 85. However, finger Keyboard doesn't work. The config is fine (loaded ok) but when i change the SIP, it simply stays at default keyboard. Changing to other SIP such as BR works.

So I have to fall back to 21725 Lite.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Milmirex:
And how long last the battery?, i had a 21220 build and the battery drain very fast, then i go back to 21198 and it´s ok, wich one do you guys recommend?

Thanks in advance.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zelendel:
Personally I am using his 21234 RTM test for 2 or 3 days without complaint. If you are having abtt issues try different radio and SPL combos.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ss68:
Thanks for your fabulous ROM. I have installed it and everything working fine except Sound, it doesn't ring and even if I play music. Do I need to change any settings.

ROM version: 65Series WWE

ROM date: 05/09/09

Radio version: 1.27.15.32

Protocol version: 22.51.88.13H

Thanks,

Ss68
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] k0l0r3k:
in RTM i found that task manager not always shows all software that is running.

battery time is good:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stylez:
Radio................
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ss68:
I changed Radio version and now is working fine.

Thanks for help.

Ss68
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zard:
with RTM version, I have problem runnung Opera 9.5 and also, PCMKeyboard and Touchpal 4.0 can't work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] anagarika:
It seems RTM has problem with 3rd party keyboard :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] parleyp:
Change your radio to a 6.1 radio. You are running an original radio and those cannot work with 6.1 or higher.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] soulbandaid:
The comm manager in the RTM is sweeeeet. I hope they do revamp WMP again; or at least do the library. i have my doubts... Does anyone have any idea on M$ time-line for releasing a 6.5 phone?

I'm so happy with mine i don't even dream of having a nicer one. QuelVGA all the way
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bennyj71:
Does the RTM have Tell Me included?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] reddragon72:
is that a seperate program or does the RTM not include a finger board(assuming that is the small keyboard that pops up at the bottom) and are you having issues with another language besides english, cause I just need the english finger board to work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zelendel:
Finger Keyboard is a different key board then the default WM small keyboard
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Its actually the old touch comm manager. I use it in all my ROMS. Most friendly friendly xD

RTM is a battery hog. My battery drains so fast now. I might test out another rom. It seems to be extremely stable though. :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] djquick:
Just A Thought!!

Maybe someone could post some screenshots of the 6.5rtm that people are testing so there won't be a flood of questions about it:rolleyes:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
There is nothing different :P The build was taken from the 6.5 SDK that is all. :rolleyes:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] br4nd0nh347:
Radio 1.70.19.09 seems to be pretty good.

Try it out with the latest build.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] faryndil:
sms problem

Im not sure if antone else is having this problem and I searched for a little bit trying to find the solution and couldnt find anything.

When I go to my text messages I can see the list where it shows all conversations but then none of the hardware keys work and I have to hold down the stylus for it to go to the message. Everything else seems to work ok I can close the messaging with the X in the corner and click on the menus but I just cant click inside the window. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] oscarsalgar:
I can confirm this. In messaging sometimes the hardware buttons just don't work, including the scroll wheel
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] oscarsalgar:
I've been playing with this RTM test and I can say it's very stabe, but a bit slower than 21278. The only annoying bug I've found is that opera doesn't work (this has been mentioned before). Also, when it's checking one of my email accounts (exchange and gmail), the messaging program seems to open, but it shows only the "messaging" title and the X on the top bar. The rest of the screen shows the CHome interface. But this happened also in previous Josh's releases.

Other than that it's an amazing rom.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] anagarika:
Confirming hardware button intermittent issue on Messaging (incl. jog dial/scroll wheel). This was noticed first in earlier build (IIRC, 21234, or the so called Manila 2D 05-26). Not sure if earlier it has same issue.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] c130pilot:
Anyone else missing information under the "buttons" setting? I open up Settings > Personal > Buttons and there are no buttons listed, so I can't reassign anything.

Tim
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] raywaldo:
Thanks for the ROMS, Josh. They all look great!

I have installed a couple of your roms and they are configured well. My problem is that my Tilt responds very slowly and sometimes hangs up - forcing a soft reset.

I am confused about your numbering and the location of the most recent stable releases. I found the test roms and your statement here (on the 5th) that it seems stable but, since I am having problems, I want to go back to a "production" version. Are those the "kitchen releases"? If so, even then, there are several and the numbers are a bit confusing.

May I suggest that you revise the #1 post to clarify the numbering and the locations where the most recent "stable" release can be downloaded? It would help if your sig pointed to such a list, rather than just taking one back to the first post.

Thanks for your work,

Ray
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tvandegr:
Last Stable version

I believe that the last stable release is the 222 release
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] WildnMN:
Did you flash the stock rom before Josh's first? Also, did you do the hard reset as well? I have not had any problems with Josh's roms other than what has been noted in this thread on certain builds.

I believe the build numbers are different based on M$ or HTC releases. Not 100% sure on that though.

The roms located in Josh's test folder are exactly that...test or beta versions. These are not perfect and us flashing junkies try them out and let Josh and other cooks know what bugs we find. Josh releases his polished roms as the stable in the thread, though some bugs are sometimes found, there are usually some fixes for these, or noted usues with 6.S versions.

The kitchens are what the chefs use to cook the roms. These are offered for those intersted in cooking there own roms. Josh and TPC have a thread for the newbies on how to cook their own roms.

What versions of Josh's roms did you try? What radio are you using?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] k0l0r3k:
found one bug in RTM :(

The "automapa" polish navigation problem is not working...

He works with every verion before i tested... just in this one :(

and the touch screen is not responfing after reset for about one minute, then the rom is stable and smooth :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zacnotes:
unlock/phone canvas

so far, on all the josh roms that i have tried (most, and they are all awesome), there is a different unlock screen, requiring a slide at the top of the screen that brings up the number pad. this screen only shows up during startup, and if you get a call in this short period, before you unlock the phone, there is a separate phone canvas that only shows up during this period, and in a similar fashion, requires a slide to answer or ignore, but is not the opal sliding canvas. does anyone know what these canvases are?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] joshkoss:
hmmm new full 21234 build with .net 3.7 coming soon:

and it benches nice also :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zelendel:
Looks Good. Cant wait to run this test.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] anagarika:
Keyboard working?

Josh,

Is the Fingerkeyboard issue fixed on this? It won't work on RTM version ..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] k0l0r3k:
Strange, after few days, the rom is making unstable...

get more freezes, slows down...

but... who cares;) waiting for another release ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Same Problem - Locking Up

Hi Guys,

On the 6-4-09 Official RTM, I'm getting the same problem. I've had several hard lockups on this ROM, one even required removing the battery to get a soft boot. This morning, it locked again when the alarm should have sounded.

Sometimes it is good to remember, the journey is the fun part, and not all destinations are perfect. Thanks for the ROMs and all the hard work Josh.:)

To those of you wondering, I did flash with OEM first then with the new ROM.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] joshkoss:
Thanks guys, i'm sorry but with my latest test work u'll want to use spl 3.56 as this works best with the oem i'm using.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bushu16:
Yes!!!

3.56 works the best, i am using it:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tvandegr:
which 3.56 SPL?

Does it matter if it is jockyw2001's 3.56 or cmonex's 3.56 HardSPL?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] babyface215:
Do you have a cab

To change 4 Icon row to 3??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] richabi:
what version of opera are you using? im using the new 9.7 and i know you need to install the HTC class action org drivers and Neo's open GL drivers to get it to load.

also, i am using 21222 currently. it seems to be the most stable, tho it will do a random hard reset when i press in my soft reset hardware button every blue moon but i think its due to this "icon" set i was using.

I am thinking about going toward 21275, 278 or 279. are any of these builds stable for you guys? I do not want to use RTM. I don't believe these are RTM, are they? I am leaning towards 278 but is stable like 222?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] langers1:
Manilla

Hi Josh, do you have any plans on adding Manilla Full version to any new test ROMS at all?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] oscarsalgar:
I'm using Opera 9,5 build 15476(the one Josh included in previous releases) and tried to install also an older 9,5 version. None worked.

Actually I will flash 21222 back as soon as I have time. that was the last build that worked without issues. 21278 is fast but I couldn't watch mobile tv and had soft resets. RTM is more stable, but I can't use opera. 21222 is the winner for me after all.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] joshkoss:
hmm i'll have to compare differences on kitchen side dude.. thanks for the info :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] richabi:
do you have the HTC Classact org 3d drivers and the neo2007 open gl drivers installed like i mentioned?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] anagarika:
I'm on 275 lite .. and so far quite stable. I recalled yes, on 222 there was a random hard reset that caused me grief :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] oscarsalgar:
Nope. I flash too often and install too many apps, so I haven't had time to look for those particular drivers. I just assume the new roms come with D3D cooked in and haven't seen any playback issues or things like that.

Is there a notorious difference?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] oscarsalgar:
Wow! there's a full RTM in the test folder... I'll give it a try!... downloading...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] anagarika:
Josh,

is this latest FULL RTM has the FingerKeyboard fixed?

Also, if you don't mind, can you share insight of my question .. I guess you did fix it, you might know where I should be looking at ..

I have dumped 21195 that has the SIM PIN issue but the files are too many and I'm too novice to know where to look at .. if you can give some tips, I might narrow down my search for the culprit (by comparing it to the kitchen build21232)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mudkip:
whats the difference between official 21234 and full 21234?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] feyd2blak:
TESTS

Hi Josh

Just some observations, I have used the 21222 lite rom without issue for a while now, perfect rom for me....

I tested the 21234 RTM and the 21725 lite roms. They both seem to have the same odd issue, when I move through the start menu or attempt to switch graphics quickly the rom hangs, like the processor or graphics processor is overloaded, like trying to run a new game on an old system. I thought this was odd considering these are newer roms than the 21222.

I have a kais130, 1.70 odd radio, newest I can get, and did flash the OEM before I installed either rom. I installed the same software I usually install, i.e. the same as for the 21222.

I was thinking it might be the graphics driver??? I am a very newbie in looking at the detail in rom though so could be way off the mark.....

Anyway, I have gone back to the 21222 until a new test comes along.

Thanks for all the work, and glad to hear you are back in the work game...

Chris
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] joshkoss:
these are included in 21806 test and after :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zelendel:
Hey guys I think I might have solved the email title bar popping up issue. could someone else try it to make sure it worked?

I went to hklm\software\microsoft\shell\event\dock\inbox\command and changed tmail.exe -RunInBKG to tmail.exe -RunInBKGD
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Im going to have a go at your 21806 build :D Will report back!

BTW Josh. Your ROMS are f***ing amazing. The best. :D

*EDIT It runs great. Im going to try out TPC's manilla version for kicks though :P