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[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] schueyisking:
hi....

im highly keen on gettin the diamond2 when it comes out (due to the guaranteed free upgrade to 6.5, and for under £400 there isn't much else that rivals it (correct me on this tho if i'm unaware of any rivals!))

BUT. doing research on the chipset i've heard and seen all sorts of posts about bad drivers for the qualcomm chipset that was used in the first touch diamond, about how the video performance was terrible, and how they underperformed compared to much older chips!

So........does anyone know whether the video performance of this diamond2 will be better/whether HTC have fixed these issues/whether the qualcomm chipset in the diamond2 is different to the one in the 1st diamond, or if its been updated or what?

basically.......is the phone going to work as expected! i currently have an ipaq 614c with an intel chipset, PXA270. I mean...is the qualcomm chipset in the diamond2 better??

iv'e also heard that the htc touch HD solved a lot of the problems or something because it had better drivers? if this is true.............the specs on the htc website show the touchHD as having a Qualcomm MSM 7201A. Whereas the Htc touch diamond2 has a Qualcomm MSM 7200A. Now..........whats the difference. Is the 7201A the decent correct chipset with good video performance (if all of the above is true), and the 7200 the crappy one??

until i have answers to all these questions.....i won't be able to focus on university :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StuartMaher:
I think the 7201A is the a 7200 with certain features that would infrnge some US patents deactiviated.

Could be wrong?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NeoS:
The MSM7201A is just like the MSM7200, Graphics wise. Only difference is that HTC adds a "driver" for their so-called 3D...

Look into the Blackstone forums to see for yourself about the performance of the MSM7201A chipset. Then decide if you're still going to buy it. (I wouldn't, although i've got a Blackstone)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rudegar:
no MSM7200a is the world version

which include the ability to recoard vga at 30fps and the world 3g frequescies

MSM7201A is the american version which don't include the 30fps video capture because of a patent by broadcom and it use the american 3g frequescies

this is pure chip hardware and dont have anything to do with what

drivers htc provide
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dredd67:
Hmm I live in France, bought a Touch HD, and got a MSM7201a chipste on my device from Orange France. Nothing related to the american market here.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I can do 3G with my phone so...:rolleyes:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deechte:
The last a in MSM7201a and MSM7200a indicates that it's a 528 MHz version, without a it's 400 MHz. I've read that HTC went back to the MSM7200a version because of the poor video recording performance on the MSM7201a chip. So, I guess it may be older, but it's better. That's why both the D2 and the Pro2 get that one.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RaptorRVL:
I guess the chipset could be allright. But HTC hasn't been all that good in providing proper drivers (so it seems).

Although I'm beginning to wonder if the Qualcomm chipsets are actually able to do good 2d and 3d graphics.

For example, when comparing it to a Samsung Omnia with a 624mhz Marvell it's really a world of difference. Ofcourse the Omnia has a smaller resolution (wqvga instead of vga) but it's much much faster than my Diamond (in about everything).

Especially when playing a movie or something with quite a high resolution (divx for example). It's much faster than the Diamond, and usually plays everything without any problem. Even compared to a Diamond with Coreplayer (for the Qualcomm video support).

So.. in short. I would not quite put all my hope on HTC delivering some magical drivers which increase performance a lot.

I rather think the Diamond2 will be much like the original Diamond. But with extra software features like a new TouchFLO 3D and some extra/other hardware features.

Looking at HTC's track record I doubt 'new high performance qualcomm drivers' is not one of the new software features.

edit: Btw, obviously don't take my word on this. I'd say if you are interested in a Diamond2, wait for it to be available and give it a nice test run. Check it out for yourself and see if you like it and think the speed is good enough for you. In the end that's all what counts, if you are happy with your/the device or not!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MAK11:
Like you said , the Omnia is only 400x240 with a CPU clocked 100mhz higher. The msm7201a in the diamond is running slower and has to push X2.74 more pixels! (and 3x more on the wvga phones). it has nothing to do with drivers (the majority doesn't seem to understand that) now regarding video perf that's another story. Coreplayer support HW accel on the Omnia (PXA cpu) but not on the Qualcomm chips (the Qtv mode is only a hack to accel DDdraw overlay) Only

WMP/HTc album support HW accel (and only on MP4 files).
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deechte:
I'm certainly not expecting any dramatic speed enhancements from the D2. And like I said, the difference between the 00 and the 01 is, as I read elsewhere, the video recording speed, not the playback.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] macsbac:
Take a look here

http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare.jsp

Clearly HTC devices for some reason perform worse than 3 year old devices. These new devices will be no different as they are based on the same hardware. HTC are a joke.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Moby2kBug:
So whats a good handy with good 2D/3D performance and Windows Mobile on it?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TIZgoesWM:
So...

I think the toshiba G01 with an 1Ghz Snapdragon CPU,

the HTC "Superstar" with Nvidia chipset

the HTC "Star" with Snapdragon CPU

the Acer F1 with an 800Mhz Snapdragon CPU and an ATI co-processor

Add if I missed one;)

All of them should run 3D-games etc. well:D

I would take the F1 from Acer, because it's sleek and elegant designed and only priced at 560€.

take a look: http://translate.google.com/transla...apdragon-cpu.html&sl=nl&tl=en&history_state0=
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gadgetgaz:
I've been playing around with Coreplayer by watching TV programs recorded by Vista media centre from a network share. It plays the video at 31 fps and looks absolutely stunning.

Also, screen rotation from landscape to portrait is instantaneous.

I am not too worried about the chipset when I see this performance.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adesonic:
It records video in VGA no problems and plays back no problem - to me, it has no problem with Video
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pidsw:
From what I have read the difference between the 7201a and the 7200a is the fab process: 90 vs 65. So the 7201a should be slightly more power efficient (although if it is only the CPU I don't know what the net difference will be).

Why they switched is a mystery. At first I assumed that it was related to their supply side situation: They have plants that can build 7200a and rather than revampt them, they released a few devices that use the 7200a rather than the 7201a.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pidsw:
Ingore that one - the Topaz and Rhodium each have the 7201a. The 7200a was a typo.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gkai:
Nope ;) That's what the "a" is for:

7200/7201 (not sure it exists): 90 nm process

7200a/7201a: 65 nm process

the 7201(if it exists)/7201a peculiarity is really due to a US patent. and this peculiarity is a downgrade...So if you have the choice between a 7200 and 7201, pick the 7200 if video recording is important to you, else pick randomly (or the cheaper ;-) ).
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tinker2000:
Whilst it may not be the fastest device in the world, for a 'Joke' company the reviews of the touch diamond2 are pretty good wouldnt you say?

Its a phone by the way!

PS. My touch diamond 2 has the 7200a, it says so in the 'Device information'
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlp_svk:
I don't have performance problems....movies in full DVD resolution are playing smooth, GPS lag isn't present, as on TD1...so I am copmpletely satisfied.. :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shadowline:
Actually speaking of GPS, it seems to work much much better on the TD2 than any others i have tried it against (kaiser/touch pro 2) I actually have close to full reception in buildings that the others wouldnt pick up on.

Video playback works great in media player with .mp4 files.

And the whole thing is just really responsive and fast at a stock rom vs the kaiser and touch pro 2.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adesonic:
for the last time, it DOES NOT HAVE THE 7201A, IT HAS THE 7200A!!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HTC Touch Freak:
7200A

http://www.htc.com/www/product/touchdiamond2/specification.html
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shuflie:
And it now looks like the 7201A chipset might be history at last as everyone can get the benfit of the 7200A's better video recording capabilities.

Qualcomm and Broadcom come to an agreement
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zen123:
Def 7200A in my phone...says so in the device info. But as others have said who cares whats in it...as long as it works well
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kirileman:
What about the gps lag? Has anyone tested it?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adesonic:
I have tested it, there is no GPS lag
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evolution8:
What program gps you use?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlp_svk:
no gps lag problem here!!! tested in latest tomtom 7 and iGO 8.3.2!! :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adesonic:
I use tom tom 7
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evolution8:
adesonic what´s your version map?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NLCJ:
Nevermind :p
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] c4b3l3r4:
What about the 3d hardware acceleration?? Is it better than other htc's device like hd touch pro and diamond1??
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hoss_n2:
msm7200a and 7201a are the same processors as i understood from qualcomm website and 7201a name was just changed to be better as a name
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] volumnus:
I'm using the stock AT&T rom on my Tilt. I never had that little blue line above the counter that shows how many characters out of 160 I have used in my SMS message. Why did it just pop up now? I've had my phone for months! When I surpass the 160 number, a message pops up that says "Two Messages". How do I turn that thing off. I don't like it. The only thing I did was download and install Skyfire. If I uninstall, do ya think that will help?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Wilhelm:
It's a limitation of SMS itself. They can only be up to 106 characters.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] k-semler:
Correct.

whch is y u c msgs like this
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] myriad46:
Interestingly, Verizon has worked around this for their customers and if messages exceed 160 characters, even though it actually flies through the air as more than one message, both phones view it as one message. The limit has always been 160 characters. Both phones have to be Verizon.

That makes it $0.00125 (eighth of a cent) per letter for the rest of us.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] |Jason8|:
It's a limitation of cell phones and the capabilities of SMS. I have sent and received 1000+ character SMS messages on my Kaiser. I have sent the same. They display as one message, but are sent as six or seven. The phone just reassembles them.

Old/cheap phones usually end up receiving six seperate messages and receiving six seperate messages.

Does AT&T (or others) charge for just the one message or the actual six or seven that get sent over the airwaves?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kilrah:
They charge for each of the 6-7 messages. That's why the phone display how many it will use, so you can know what you're up to.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] lindenny50:
Touch Pro Bricked

Ok so I am a noob and at least I admit it!!! I had been having problems with the display scrambling on my flashed to cricket sprint touch pro so what I did was install Hardspl 37 and tried to do a new flash. I last saw my display say that a problem occurred while flashing to the new rom and now I get nothing when I power up. I have tried hard reset I have tried soft reset I have tried about a million different key combos and I get nothing just the backlight pops on and nothing beyond this point. I get nothing when it powers up ...no startup sounds nothing...Just the backlight pops on and then nothing PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IS THIS PHONE A 300.00 paper weight???

Ok so Heres what I have done.... I started the flash from my pc but it didn't take so then I put hard spl 37 on my sd card along with raphimg.nbh and since then I get nothing like I stated above??? also bootloader wont come up the phone powers up but doesnt vibrate like it used to and I get just the backlight??? Some one on another site said to try to manually get into bootloader but I don't know how any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bauerpavel:
Should try pressing volume down button while reseting till you get to bootloader. If not, then...:eek:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bauerpavel:
Oh, and hardspl you want to use is ver 1.90 by Oli Nex. Not sure which one you used.

see bellow

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Raphael_HardSPL

Another thing that might have caused this is flashing gsm rom on cdma device (which is your case I suppose - Fuze). Make sure that rom you are flashing is for your device (either raphael (gsm) or fuze(cdma) ).
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] millab:
To get into boot loader hold down the vol down key while turning on the phone.

Best way for you to try is to take out the battery, put it back in, hold down the 'volume down' button on the side and press the power button.

Sorry that's all i can help you with. Hopefully someone else has had this happen and knows a way out of it
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dcdivenut:
Step 1. Take a deep breath

Step 2. Search and read... sounds frustrating buts lots of devices have been brought back from the dead.

Step 3. Get the phone to bootloader mode (three horizontal color bars)

Step 4. Read some more or read other posts on what to do because I can't help past this!

I think you may have used the wrong SPL so start looking there.

I saw what Bauerpavel just posted... good stuff

If you can get to bootloader mode you should be able to start all over again from here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=448008
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hvbelton:
If you're running a Sprint Touch Pro, most of the roms here are not for your phone. May want to try ppcgeeks.com
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] geok:
Just to be clear, not to be confused with the AT&T HTC Fuze, which is a GSM device! :)

But you're with Sprint, so assuming you're in the US, you have a CDMA device. Check the CDMA forum at the top level of the Raphael forums. There will be lot's of good advice there on the specifics for that hardware.

Good luck!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dcdivenut:
Fuze=AT&T=GSM

Sprint TouchPro = CDMA

If you tried flashing a GSM ROM to a CDMA phone you may be up the creek!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] adoptahippo:
Ahh so many great roms to choose from. I understand that the hermes has very little ram, which is what's a major letdown for me. Which decent roms have at least 30 mb of ram?

thanks.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] galaxys:
Most of TAI_Sw and some of the older DVH cooked lite roms have the highest free program ram out of the kitchen. Then it will depend on what U load and how U manage your processes, active apps, files, cache, etc...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] f21270:
why can't one, how in wm2003, which arranges RAM variable? 30mb are very few. I use a Rome, where 71mb are free MEMORY memory. of it I would shift gladly something into the RAM.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] obaz:
dont be noob.

reed the wiki, at least use google.

the memory manadgment in 2005 difer from representet in 2003.

That 'memory' you wanna 'shift' is not ram. its onbord flash chip.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] adoptahippo:
Doesnt the tytn have just like 64 mb of ram?

o_o
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] obaz:
yep.

and only 128mb of rom.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kareeem:
Try them all and choose for yourself.

Thread closed.
[General Topics] orb3000:
Interesting facts:

In english

http://communities-dominate.blogs.c...net-understand-mobile-of-4-billion-users.html

In spanish

http://www.xatakamovil.com/mercado/la-gran-industria-de-la-telefonia-movil
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] anryl:
FIRST READ THE WIKI - HARD SPL - SUPER CID - THEN FLASH

Click to drink

beer with me​

SEPTEMBER 2009 i will have THIS :

Kitchen based on platformrebuilder from BEPE manual bat

- will be compatible with ervius visual kitchen from HERE

- if u use ervius kitchen to check timebombs and then want to coock again with it remove all _skip :D

no multidevice no multi lang - allways setup new kitchen for every change ( stable )

allways make zip off xip oem and sys by windowzz hdd problems u will need it :cool:

KITCHEN PICTORIAL

​
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] anryl:
KITCHEN 19-3 BASE NO SYS NO XIP NO OEM NO EXT PACKAGES

LINK_SAFE

SET UP u kitchen with resources

all structures are predefined

u cook with build_rom.bat - removes all _skip from kitchen automatic

or erviuskitchen.exe (4.0 latest)

test_sys.bat for testing ported xip and sys if error u have to look for it if not u can coock again

IF U EXPERIENCE COOCKING PROBLEMS TRY LOOK IN ERVIUS KITCHEN THREAD OR POST HERE

FOR EXT PACKAGES USE ERVIUS KITCHEN DUMPROM WITH OFFICIAL RUU_SIGNED.NBH (opal,elfin,jade,iolite) it will generate new kitchen from it u take what u need

​
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] anryl:
know how

RAM HACK here

found by deepthroat made by chavonbravo and cmonex for polaris and found the right spot for kaiser by ervius applied by ANRYL and spread the word to masses :p

HEX rom 3.34 nk.exe s000

514e8: 8234A013 to 8334A013 :lol: - end off ram 82000000 to 83000000

HEX

from polaris thread

the drivers ddi.dll and wce_pmem.dll from 3.14 rom to fix memory and camera for ram hack

PAGE POOL

hexedit nk.exe s0000

search for A00300E08405030000 HEX

03E5A00300E08405030000- dynamic not bad

06E6A00300E08405030000- 6 mb

0FE6A00300E08405030000- 15 MB not bad

20E6A00300E08405030000- 32 mb

turn OFF antivirus by coocking
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] anryl:
resources

fourth resources for now

basic resources

http://www.linksafe.info/show.php?show=45587 BASIC EXT PACKAGES 1

http://www.linksafe.info/show.php?show=45610 OEM fixed (camera , OK for 6.5)

http://www.linksafe.info/show.php?show=45582 START EXT PACKAGES 2

http://www.linksafe.info/show.php?show=45583 QGPS

BETAS

21725 common xip ////// 96 dpi fixed ///// 96dpi fix2 //// use bbcbres.dll from 21234

21234 SYS XIP

21222 SYS XIP FIX(kaiser 101)

21215 SYS XIP

21502SYSXIP

21501SYSXIP_connflipper_dsi76_dan-htc-touch

21510 SYS XIP

21210 SYS XIP timebomb fix

21500 SYS XIP

21202 SYS XIP

21198

beta 5 oem rom ext sys - use ervius 4.7 kitchen

http://rapidshare.com/files/216076976/21198sysb5.ZIP

http://rapidshare.com/files/216076977/EXTb5.ZIP

http://rapidshare.com/files/216076978/OEM21198b5.ZIP

http://rapidshare.com/files/216076980/ROM21198b5.ZIP

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beta 1 - SYS and XIP + xip_out.bin(eten) password: 21198

21195

SYS XIP

21193

http://www.linksafe.info/show.php?show=45580 SYS with XIP 21193 rev 0 (for u to fix)

STABLE

LATEST OFFICIAL 21051

21051 should be ok by ringtone plugin problem look for another xip source browsingie_0409 missing did not get the resources use from another ie

first test looking very fast responsive - but my last 96dpi contribution

http://rapidshare.com/files/238169769/21051SYSXIP.7z

21048 http://rapidshare.com/files/236301416/21048SYSXIP.rar

20046 http://rapidshare.com/files/230628526/21046SYSXIP.RAR

21042 http://rapidshare.com/files/221828355/21042SYSXIP.rar

21032

http://www.linksafe.info/show.php?show=45586 SYS XIP u have to set it in right location

OTHER RESOURCES

21068

http://brsbox.kickme.to
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] anryl:
Full kitchens

FINAL KITCHEN password protected (PM - or u know it)

21232 0405

21232 0407

21032 FULL multidevice BASE just add more ext packages as the basics are included (qgps,dialers,camera....) RAPID

21501 FULL ervius

21222 "kitchen 12/5" "EXT 12/5" "ROM_OEM 12/5" "SYS XIP" "how-to-pictorial"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] joshkoss:
Congrats dude!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wjtk:
anryl, great news ;). Thanks for your hard work and sharing ;).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] redbandana:
Is this a similar kitchen you released several weeks ago? I tried searching for it but was unable to find it for some reason maybe because the links were removed?

Either way that previous kitchen was very user friendly and uncomplicated. Good Job.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] msd24200:
ANRYL you are a machine and will go down in xda history as one of the greats ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] anryl:
:D

:D

:cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mbarvian:
yay! anryl's back!

great job man. good thinking on the linksafe, that's a useful website.

could you please post the Pagepool hex codes again?

thanks ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wjtk:
I don't know if it's so beta, or I did sth wrong ;), but after setting up and cooking everything works fine except one thing. Start menu don't react - it is impossible to launch it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] anryl:
yeah betas are complicated not for noobs its something with shell res mui but should work :cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wjtk:
I'm not a noob definitely ;). Just checking, because your previous betas worked fine (except smaller bugs). Anyway, thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] anryl:
i hope not :D

OEM FIXED RELEASED for 6.5 and latest official builds

dont worry the fixed rest will come as well :cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] anryl:
what ? dont know ? ups 21195 :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] joshkoss:
bro, how is 21195 preforming??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] anryl:
dont know u tell me :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] joshkoss:
i need to report xip as my kitchen needs payload also :( i'll let you know as soon as i get it up. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] anryl:
why u need payload ? hmm use my from rom ? :rolleyes:

i got probs with xip china so used xip kaiser ported by ...... PPC HAHA
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] parleyp:
I offered to buy it.

UPDATE--I did buy it.

Just one question for you MSD---Why do you need three of them?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] parleyp:
Thanks for another great contribution.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] anagarika:
Anryl,

Thanks for the tip the other day. Good luck to you .. we lost one big contributor to Kaiser ROM ..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] s4dd1:
Thanx 4 all your nice Kaiser Roms and Kitchen files, hope you keep coocking with your new toy :D