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[Touch HD General] geekbuddha:
Just ordered mine...oh man, 4 days is too long.....why is it only 4:00AM in Australia.....comeon ship it now already :-)
[Touch HD General] geekbuddha:
From a differnt thread on the 850-1900 discussion:

http://cellularmap.net/att_850_1900.shtml
[Touch HD General] kipmast:
Telstra T8285 fro EBAY AU Unlocked?

I have been tempted to order it on Ebay as well. It will be my first purchase on Ebay.... From what I can see the Telstra T8285 is the one I want and It says it's unlocked. I plan to pop my AT&T SIM card in and expect it to work on the 850 3g band. Am I missing anything else?? I'm pretty sure the folks who have already bought one have got it from the same source in AU. If I get the nerve to do this I will be selling my T8282.:)

Thanks
[Touch HD General] phongdto:
wondering if it's possible (easy) to change the antenna on the t8282 and put the antenna for the t8285 in it's place. this would then get us 3G, no? anyone with an idea on the cost for this?
[Touch HD General] homer285:
I have the T8282 also, I switched to Vodafone as they use the higher frequency HSDPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz Up to 2 Mbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds, coverage is pretty good and they're a bit cheaper than Telstra.

EDIT: I did a speed test CNET site, keeping in mind I'm indoors and have very low signal (one bar) dl speed reached 900kbps with an average speed of 700kbps.
[Touch HD General] AllTheWay:
Have you tried

Start > Settings > Phone > Band > WCDMA?

If I do this with my Fuze I notice that I don't switch from 3G at all. Obviously I can't test this on my HD though.
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
yeah, i've tried that. depending on where i am at home, i'll lose the signal. in my case, 850 3G is spotty near my house. if i drive a few miles north or west of my home my phone will switch to 3G automatically with the Auto/Auto settings. in your case, you probably hold a signal because your Fuze is using the 1900 3G band. thanks for the suggestion!
[Touch HD General] stpete111:
Folks on AT&T in the US who have the T8285, just wondering what Radio version you guys are using? I'm still on the one that came with it, but I'm not sure if anyone has changed theirs and is getting better performance?
[Touch HD General] Elashmawi:
I have the T8285 from Telstra and I set the network type to WCDMA and band 1900+850 and i have HSPDA (H) coverage non stop. Great speeds. I'm in the SF bay Area.
[Touch HD General] clubtech:
Can someone in the US who bought the t8285 confirm that the phone has WCDMA 1900+850Mhz AND WCDMA 2100Mhz?

I know this phone only supports WCDMA 850 + 2100Mhz and that the SF Bay Area is using is using 1900Mhz for 3G so iaI surprised to see this phone is working on 3g the the SF Area per the quote above.
[Touch HD General] Elashmawi:
Let me clarify...Under the phone settings > Band...you have the option to select the network type, which i selected WCDMA and the GSM/UMTS band which i selected GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850). Thus i get continous "H" on the signal display and the high speed browsing...

If i select auto for both, i get Edge displayed. Changingg to the above, i get "H"...
[Touch HD General] clubtech:
Thanks for clarifying. If you select WCDMA, do you also have the 2100Mhz option?

If what you are doing really works, this is pretty significant discovery as it shows that the phone can work on 1900Mhz HSDPA here in the states.

Are you using the original Telstra ROM and Radio?
[Touch HD General] djmaven:
Has anyone ever bought a phone from Personal Digital in Australia??

any other known & reliable sources for a T8285??
[Touch HD General] Elashmawi:
You also have UMTS(2100+800) option. I did get my T8285 from Personal Digital in Austrilia. No issues. I HardSPL and loaded the latest Dutty Rom. Works great plus blackberry connect on AT&T. I had a Tilt before.
[Touch HD General] clubtech:
This actually means that the T8285 CAN work on WCDMA at 1900Mhz as the SF Bay Area is still all 1900Mhz WCDMA and you say you are getting 3G without any issues.

I guess you just need to force it to connect to 850/1900 WCDMA for it to work.
[Touch HD General] Elashmawi:
i can email a picture of my phone on AT&T with the "H"...
[Touch HD General] stpete111:
I was looking for a radio version number. It's under Settings - System - Device Information.
[Touch HD General] felixjai:
This is an interesting finding. When I had my T8282, the setting didn't work or make any difference. But I notice it now works on my T8285. I live in NYC, I have "H" most of the time outside of Manhattan. But see only "E" in Manhattan. Let me try changing the setting mentioned above when I go to Manhattan tomorrow to see if it makes any difference.
[Touch HD General] Hanniballs:
I also bought my HD from Personal Digital, although I won't receive it until tomorrow. I can't wait!! :D
[Touch HD General] Elashmawi:
the radio version is 1.10.25.25
[Touch HD General] juanpablo1:
can you share Personal Digital"s website?
[Touch HD General] NYCUE:
Htc hd t8285

www.personaldigital.com.au I just ordered the T8285 :cool: http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Touch-HD-T8...0|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1308|301:1|293:1|294:50
[Touch HD General] chiraag:
Hello people..

I just thought i would say hi as there is so much talk about us in this post.

This is chiraag from Personal Digital in Australia. The link above is not a completely working site as yet.. and is under development...

Please visit out ebay listings.

http://shop.ebay.com.au/merchant/personaldigital9

Thanks

Chiraag
[Touch HD General] daraj:
Your website says HD 8282... Thats the Euro version. Is it in fact the euro version or you have the Telstra Version (T8285)? Should we buy from the website or the ebay link. Ship to USA? Please PM or post with details. Highly Interested..
[Touch HD General] stpete111:
Ok thanks. That's what I have too. But my battery life is pretty subpar, so I'm wondering if I should try another one.
[Touch HD General] AllTheWay:
Using the HTC Field Test I can confirm that I receive a 850 GSM signal. I would be surprised if I receive a 1900 3G signal. Does not make sense to me why you would have different signals one for 3G and one for GSM operating at a different frequency. Though I can not prove this either way.

That is good news. Let me know if you ever head to Sacramento / South Lake Tahoe on Highway 50 and still get 3G. That would cover the area I am at just to confirm my assumption. :)
[Touch HD General] AllTheWay:
Try the 1.09.25.14 radio with the corresponding rilphone.dll from the Blackstone radio thread. That one seems to work the best for me in Northern California. Though I have a T8282 version.
[Touch HD General] stpete111:
Great, thanks for the info ATW. I'll try it.
[Touch HD General] evermore:
skyfire

felixjai, I'd be very interested in how this turns out.

Also, what download speeds do you get in Manhattan and the boroughs?

Finally, would you be willing to test out skyfire? Specifically, how is streaming video on sites like atdhe.net (especially live sports,) and hulu? What about streaming these sites in landscape?

Hope this isn't too much trouble. It would be extremely helpful to me. Thanks very much.
[Touch HD General] NYCUE:
Htc Hd T8285 AT&T 3G Las Vegas

I have both HTC HD T8282 & T8285.I have the T8282 flashed to the telsta rom. Still only have AT&t egde speeds.I do see the different 3G settings,but I still do not receive 3G.The Telstra T8285 receives 3G out of the box and diplays 3G AT&T.I flashed the T8285 to a stock HTC HD rom ,I still get 3G speeds,but it only dislpay AT&T.The T8285 device model now shows model T8282 in the device id.A default setting for the rom.I flashed the T8285 to Maryone one rom and the 3G AT&T displays is back.No matter what I did to either phone,The T8285 was the only phone that I received 3G speeds,no matter what was displayed on the phones band settings.
[Touch HD General] daraj:
I'm getting the TElstra version today and I'm afraid to flash to another ROM and radio because of possible 3G connectivity loss. Can you confirm that I can install any ROM or Radio on the Telstra and still get 3G speeds? I have 3G speeds where I live.
[Touch HD General] x5-rwk:
I used duty's 2.1 and just got back from South Florida this morning. I was in Ft. Meyers and Naples and had 3G the whole time. I even went fishing near Marco Island in the everglades and had full 5 bar 3G / HSDPA signal. It worked awesome.
[Touch HD General] x5-rwk:
That is great news, heading to Las Vegas with the wife for an Adult vacation at the end of April. No Kids. Good food, friends, drinks, sun and a little gambling. Should be lots of fun and I am happy to hear the the T8285 works with ATT 3G in Vegas.

I need a vacation after spring break with the kids. Ages 3,6 and 8. Can't wait to get back to work tomorrow.
[Touch HD General] bigneeker:
i just got the t8285 and installed duttys rom but i cannot get 3g in manhattan.

is anyone else getting 3g in manhattan?

also how do i turn off the auto rotation? i unchecked the option in the setting menu but it still auto rotates and its driving me crazy!
[Touch HD General] daraj:
Did u flash the radio or just the ROM? Look for G-sen or Flip-It not sure what Dutty uses.
[Touch HD General] bigneeker:
i only flashed the rom. not the radio.

maybe att doesnt use 850mhz 3g in manhattan?

and i unchecked the option in the settings menu in hte manila program to "off" yet it still auto rotates. its the most annoying thing because when i put it in my pocket and pull it out its always upside down and i have to wait 5 seconds for it to turn back.

i just tried changing the hkcu/software/htcsensor/gsensor/autorotation to "0" but that didnt help either.
[Touch HD General] emersonvier:
Hi, Any new about how T8282 work on 3G 850Mhz?

Thx,

EMERSON VIER

HTC TOUCH HD - T8282

OPERATOR CLARO - 3G 850Mhz
[Touch HD General] DRTigerlilly:
there won't be anything new, its a hardware limitation the t8282 doesn't have the amplifier for the 850mhz radio (it only has amplifiers for the 900/2100mhz bands) so you need an t8285 (which does 850/2100mhz) IF you're in an area that uses the 850mhz band.
[Touch HD General] NYCUE:
Have fun Viva Las Vegas
[Touch HD General] felixjai:
I live in Queens and I do have 3G ("H" icon shows up on my T8285). But when I go to work in Manhattan, I only have 2G "E" for Edge. I guess there is no 850mhz in Manhattan, but outside of Manhattan there will be 3G.
[Touch HD General] Farbod:
Now this how a question is answered. Thanks Cortez. :)

I just placed my order from ebay and hope to have it here in about a week. If I follow this instructions, then I should be fine with getting the phone to work under 3G/H without using the dutty 2.1 or hardSPL, am I correct?

Thanks again guys,
[Touch HD General] galaxys:
Yes you should be good to go...enjoy the 3g on your new toy! btw, where will you be picking up 850mhz?
[Touch HD General] NYCUE:
HTC HD UI

I am looking for this exact UI for my HTC HD.Please can someone who had installed this one on their phone direct me to the one in the video.http://www.gsmdome.com/mobile-software/htc-touch-hd-gets-iphone-ish-interface_3325
[Touch HD General] rogerbacon50:
You can get it here: http://vitotechnology.com/products.html
[Touch HD General] NYCUE:
Thanks for the help
[Touch HD General] Farbod:
Thanks galaxys! I am hoping it will work under ATT 3G without any HardSPL and Rom exchange (phone is unlocked as they have stated).

I will be picking up 850 mhz around Philadelphia, at least as I was told that I could! :)
[Touch HD General] Hanniballs:
Yes. it works on AT 3g with the stock Telstra ROM.. but that ROM is a POS.
[Touch HD General] chiejin:
3G also outside of US and Australia?

Does this phone also get 3G outside of US and Australia while traveling?
[Touch HD General] x5-rwk:
A lot of the original AT&T 3G markets, Chicago, SF, NY, Dallas... used the 1900 mhz frequency for their 3G/HSDPA. They have since switched to doing all the buildout of the 3G network in the 850 mhz frequency. The lower frequencies have much better range and penetration that the higher bandwidth frequencies. AT&T made a statement recently that they are converting all their old 1900 mhz towers to 850 mhz towers and should be done by the end of the year (2009). They have already started in Chicago and most of downtown is already 850 mhz. This is good news for all Touch HD telstra owners and really anyone who wants better 3G coverage. It will suck for those not using a phone with 3G. They will actually see a degrade of their service as this conversion happens. The 2G/Edge frequencies are being bumped to the 1900 mhz spectrum.
[Touch HD General] bjrmd:
Looks like 850 3G is a solid choice for years to come.

http://www.appleinsider.com/article...ive_network_update_for_new_iphone_launch.html
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
if the place you're traveling to provides 3G access on bands supported by the Telstra HD, then you should be able to get 3G access.
[Touch HD General] turcomora:
Houston we have lift off. Yes finally here in the Medical Center on the 26th floor at 8am I looked down at my Telstra 850 and I see 4 Bars with an H:) I was like what's going on. After the heart break of buying a T8285 and then learning that Houston is on the 1900 I get the best surprise today. Finally a Touch HD with 3G. Life is good today.
[Touch HD General] turcomora:
Just FYI T8285 seems to like manual set to WCDMA and 850 + 1900 as opposed to having the auto on the phone settings. With auto 3G comes and goes. With the manual set I get solid H but battery life does seem to drain much quicker.
[Touch HD General] x5-rwk:
Congrats. That is good news. Hopefully that means that the switch is on for 850 in Houston. :D
[Touch HD General] Sean3:
I've looked through the posts and may have missed if someone has posted the the ATT 1900/850 coverage map, so apologize if this is a double, but in any event, here it is....http://cellularmap.net/att_850_1900.shtml
[Touch HD General] turcomora:
Thanks for the map Sean. It is already posted but dont remember what post. Also be mindful that the map is a general area, I can say that this map is not totally accurate. Hopefully AT&T is rolling out the 850mhz to major areas soon though. Houston just went live.
[Touch HD General] Sean3:
Yikes! Thanks for the heads up turcomora. I just ordered a T8285 and was relying on the map for me in Oklahoma. My area is highlighted for 850...so we'll see.
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
my experience: when you manually set the device for 850 3G, i've noticed faster drain. now i leave mine on auto and it switches automatically when i move to a strong 3G area.
[Touch HD General] turcomora:
Yeah you are right. It seems that the 850 spectrum is readily available in Houston but as I traveled home out to the suburbs with the manual settings I lost all signal. I now am using it on auto and it does seem to change as needed well.
[Touch HD General] c6638746:
T8285 Teltra but no 3G

I just got my T8285 from Telstra. I flashed Dutty's HD 2.6 Extreme Rom, OliHSPL and radio 1.13.25.24. So far I cannot get 3G where I am in NJ, USA. I know for a fact this is a 3G area as I had 3G with my other phones here. Also under the phone's Device Information it is showing "HTC Touch HD T8282". Does this make any sense? Or does the Rom overwrite the actual device info? I have not traveled to other areas yet to check.
[Touch HD General] turcomora:
Use radio 1.10.25.25
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
and you're certain the 3G in your area is on the 850 band as well? i also flashed with Dutty's 2.6 and i see the same Device info as you do. unlike others, i've stuck with my stock Telstra radio and it gets 3G signals just fine... my stock radio is 1.10.25.25 which is the same as recommend by turcomora.
[Touch HD General] daraj:
I have the T8285 from Telstra and I have Dutty 2.6 on it with stock radio. I get 3G. I changed to almost 4 radios also and in all situations I still get 3G. Im not sure if you have the telstra version or EURO version. What does it say under battery. BLAC120 or BLAC100??
[Touch HD General] geekbuddha:
This works great. Very little bouncing between H and E now and staying mostly on H. Infact I am getting better battery life after makign this change. My guess is that the phone isnt trying to find the network band again and again
[Touch HD General] DRTigerlilly:
i am so jealous of you guys :(
[Touch HD General] juventuss:
So is the general consensus that you cannot get the Blackstone (8282 or 8285) working on T-Mobile's 3G network ?

Is there a remote possibility that this might change in the near future ?

I am contemplating between either model and if all I will be able to get is Edge on T-Mobile, it would make more sense to get the 8282 version which is cheaper.
[Touch HD General] galaxys:
^ hi, neither the 8282 or 8285 will work on T-Mobile's 3G network now nor in the future (since they lack the 1700/2100 umts combo). Edge works fine...
[Touch HD General] juventuss:
Thanks for the reply. I guess I'll just go ahead and purchase the 8282. There isn't any noticeable difference between either other than the support for AT&T's 3G right ?
[Touch HD General] galaxys:
^ no other noticable diff that I'm aware of except for the price...the 8282 is much cheaper!
[Touch HD General] Farbod:
Are you in South Jersey or North?
[Touch HD General] c6638746:
It does not appear to work (no 3G or H) in Woodbridge or most of the surrounding areas. I have to survey some more. Also it appears that different ROM's affect what bands you can select. Right now using latest Davieduck WM6.5 ROM I only see one band option which is "UMTS (900+2100) + GSM (900+1800)". Using a different radio appears to make no difference. I did get "H" service in several other areas in NJ today with this setup.
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
i'm using the same ROM; even without the 850 band settings, i still get a 3G signal in dallas. let me know if you'd like my registry settings to restore the 850 3G band option.
[Touch HD General] c6638746:
Yes please! I have tried other ROM's as well and they all lack allot of the bands.
[Touch HD General] c6638746:
I do have the Telstra version, yes Blac120. I was just getting very nervous when at home I was not getting 3G. Later in the day I saw some "H" activity as I traveled to other areas. Either they are using a different band for 3G here or I need to do some additional tweaking to get it to work here which would be really really nice. This phone has been such an expense and hassle, I think we all just need to generate thousands of signatures and send a message to HTC about their absurd ways of doing things.
[Touch HD General] c6638746:
Ok I almost had a heart attack right now! I just flashed Daviedeuck's WM 6.5 V-7 ROM used radio 1.10.25.25 and then switched network to WCDMA and band to Auto. And bam, I now have the good 'ol "H" on my phone. This is awsome! I am going to experiment with other radios as well. This combination of settings never worked before at the location where I am right now (near woodbridge, NJ).
[Touch HD General] c6638746:
Ok radio 1.13.25.24 also works as well, with same settings I still get "H" service. But the location where I am right now inside the house the signal is very bad in some areas of the house. Anyway to get "3G" service instead which works well and much stronger signal all over the house?
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
remove the .txt file extesnsion, save the file, then use a registry editor to import the settings to your phone... this file will add the following info to your registry:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting]

"Last_SMS_Tick"=dword:00000000

"ShowPDPPage"=dword:00000001

"PhoneSettingExt-DLL"="PhoneSettingExt.dll"

"QOSTrafficClass"=dword:00000004

"LongNamePrefix"="3G"

"Enable3GLongNamePrefix"=dword:00000001

"ONSDisplayRule"=dword:00000001

"ShowALSPage"=dword:00000001

"ShowNITZPage"=dword:00000001

"ShowUMTSBandPage"=dword:00000001

"ShowPINPage"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\BandType]

"ItemValue4"=dword:00000003

"ItemName4"="UMTS(2100+800)"

"ItemValue3"=dword:00000002

"ItemName3"="GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)"

"ItemValue2"=dword:00000001

"ItemName2"="GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(900+2100)"

"ItemValue1"=dword:00000000

"ItemName1"="Auto"

"ItemCount"=dword:00000004

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\NetworkType]

"ItemValue3"=dword:00000002

"ItemName3"="WCDMA"

"ItemValue2"=dword:00000001

"ItemName2"="GSM"

"ItemValue1"=dword:00000000

"ItemName1"="Auto"

"ItemCount"=dword:00000003
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
my "signal" situation is very similar to yours in that at home, the 3G signal is very weak in the downstairs area of my house. if i go upstairs i can occasionally get a 3G signal. as soon as i travel to an area with a stronger 3G presence, my phone will immediately change to "H"... all this with the stock radio and both band settings on Auto. my wife has a 3G crackberry and my kids have the 3G iphone and thay all have the same "3-G signal experience" that i have. bottom line: the "no-3G-signal-at-home" is due to location and not the phone. as at&t adds more 850 3G towers, i expect to get better 3G signals at home. for now, i'm not going to worry about it! :)
[Touch HD General] mpf54:
Chicago Area

Anyone using one of the T8285 in the Chicago area? ATT maops show it should work but want to check before putting out the cash for one. Fot those of you the upgraded from the 8282 was it worth it to you. Do you notice the speed difference? I connect with a laptop a lot and want it for this. But also wondering about just plane old surfing.speed.
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
can't speak to the availability of 850 3G in chicago, but, in dallas there's a huge difference in surfing speed, tethering speed, etc. when comparing the HD 850 3G to HD EDGE. i've gotten speeds upto 1316 kb/s. the attached picture shows internet speeds outside at my home (today). 850 3G coverage is spotty at home, but when i have a good/strong signal, 3G speed is fast!
[Touch HD General] turcomora:
I second cortez's comment. There is a big difference especially if you going to tether which is primarily one of the reasons that I got the T8285. It is a night and day difference at least here in Houston. I can barely stand tethering outside of a 850mhz area on my netbook because it is so slow. When I am in a 3G area it blazes at an incredible speeed.
[Touch HD General] c6638746:
Cortez,

Good looking out! I was able to import these entries and now I have 3 different sets of bands available to choose from. Is there any other bands that the telstra phone supports that we can import as well? I have been testing for the last few days and I am a pretty happy camper with this phone. I am using Davideuck's 6.5 V7 rom along with radio 1.13.25.24. I have both band setting set to auto, regional settings set to US and HSDPA turned on. Most places in NJ I am getting very good "H" signal. At home if I force it I can get "H" or "3G, 3G+" but the signal is kinda poor so I just leave the band settings at auto and it uses the Edge network. I am getting good service everywhere so far, Internet works and battery life appears to be good. Also have Agps enabled and TomTom 7.910 is picking up gps quickly and working pretty well. Overall very happy with this phone. I am assuming that AT&T is going to convert all towers to the "H" signal so things will get even better for us Telstra users correct?
[Touch HD General] turcomora:
OK T8285 owners I just changed to 1.13.25.24 radio and I am very pleased. Reception is much better then stock telstra radio 1.10 radio. GPS established connection faster as well.
[Touch HD General] Elashmawi:
How do you change the radio in the phone? do you still get 3G? could you revert back to the orginal. I'm in teh South SF Bay Area and get 3G
[Touch HD General] turcomora:
There is a thread has all the different radios ready for download. You can flash viaa RUU and the nbh file or via the micro sd card method. Yes I still get 3G and receptions seems much better as well as gps fix.