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[Touch HD General] keith137:
T8285 Haptic feedback

Greetings,

I just purchased a T8285 and I'm happy to report full 850Mhz HSPDA signal in Tampa FL!

My question is this: The virtual buttons along the bottom will not vibrate (haptic feedback) when pressed. I have enabled "vibrate the device" under settings/virtual buttons, but still no vibration. I previously had a T8282 and this feature worked fine. Did HTC remove this feature for the T8285, or am I missing something???

Thank you ahead of time for any assistance.
[Touch HD General] ratchetjaw:
Ok so i am another total newb, but read through all 27 pages. I just ordered my 8285 version for the 850 US 3g. My question is i know nothing about flashing roms and radios lol. Will i be ok using the phone as is out of the box for just browsing the web and moderate txt, email, movies and what not. Wont be tethering or anything like that:D
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
Yes, you can use as is to do what you list above. You'll have to manually setup the at&t internet settings because (if my memory is correct) Telus disables the user's ability to modify internet settings. i assume you're on at&t because that's the only US carrier that has/utilizes the 850 3G band.
[Touch HD General] 900SS:
Yes it will work, out of the box. There is just a lot of extra stuff loaded on the ROM that you wont use. If you follow the instructions flashing a ROM is pretty easy.
[Touch HD General] bigwill3:
yeah, i wasnt able to modify the connection settings. of course, i didnt try too hard and just went straight to dutty, but mine was unable to access the internet out of the box (it did, however, show 3g connectivity)
[Touch HD General] ratchetjaw:
Oh ok thank you all for the speedy responses. It should hopefully be here this week sometime. If i cant get it going after loading the at&t settings i will read up on the rom loading:D thanks again
[Touch HD General] keith137:
T8285 haptic feedback not working

The virtual buttons along the bottom of my device will not vibrate (haptic feedback) when pressed (virtual buttons = phone, home, back, end). I have enabled "vibrate the device" under settings/virtual buttons, but still no vibration. I previously had a T8282 and this feature worked fine. Did HTC remove this feature for the T8285, or am I missing something???

Thank you ahead of time for any assistance.
[Touch HD General] mpf54:
So I just got a T8285 and out of the box I was on E. I updated radio to latest and rom to Davideuck_V-5_HP_MSVC_ST. Now to get it to show an H I have to take it off of auto and select WCDMA. It not shows an H and 3GATT. Does this work on auto or do I need to leave it set this way. I know it must be getting a H signal because if I try this with a T8282 it says no signal on these settings. I have a diamond that picks up show shows h when it is set to auto.
[Touch HD General] juiceppc:
Has anyone used the Telstra HD in SouthEast Michigan? And can you report if it's mostly 850 or 1900?

thx.
[Touch HD General] rocho:
does HD T8285 from Telstra support WCDMA 1900 mhz?
[Touch HD General] DRTigerlilly:
no it doesn't it only supports 850mhz & 2100mhz
[Touch HD General] tids2k:
It sucks .. the next day after my purchase i had to flash it to dutty's rom ;)
[Touch HD General] Cybertronicz:
Just FYI, my T8285 works great the the South SF Bay Area( Mountain View, Sunnyvale area). (ATT 3G signal everywhere)

I was also in Las Vegas last week, and ATT 3G was working fine there too.

I have Duttys 3.3 ROM Loaded, which has the 1.14.25.24 Radio.

Cheers!
[Touch HD General] nossac:
Got a ATT #g signal in Detroit and LA during my visit there last week.
[Touch HD General] frankw45:
Any T8285 owner in Raleigh/Cary, North Carolina area? are you able to get ATT 850mhz 3G?
[Touch HD General] erikjonpeterson:
Working Now in Northern Illinois

I received my T8285 several weeks ago (Grayslake,Il) and could not connect to 3g for the first week :( I tried everthything including several custom ROM's. I decided to take a drive to WI and sure enough I crossed the boarder and BANG the big H! That same evening I went to use my phone at home in Grayslake and there was the H again :) I have had strong H signal and 1500-1700 kps data rates ever since. Life is good. It seems unlikely that ATT just happened to turn on a 850mhz tower in my area the same night I drove to WI and got my first H signal but I got no other explination. I am using MIRI's V10 6.5 ROM.
[Touch HD General] Junga:
Wahooooo!!!

850 3g FINALLY hit downtown Jersey City, NJ. This morning, I looked at my 8285 and bam, H! I'm getting about 1.2 mb consistently now.

/J
[Touch HD General] marksm:
Mine is working great in the Dallas, TX area. It changes from Edge to HSDPA, whatever has a stronger lock at that time. I Love this phone so far.
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
the Telstra HD works very well with at&t's 850 3G service in dallas... one minor, minor nuiance is when you're in that "really bad fringe" area, i.e., less populated areas. i find that setting my phone to GSM ensures i get a strong signal for phone calls. i'm a happy camper with this puppy!!
[Touch HD General] jab5868:
Where did you buy your HD

Can I ask where did you purchased your HD? I'm in Hoffman Estates IL and looking to buy one.
[Touch HD General] erikjonpeterson:
I bought mine from ozdigitalonline@gmail.com on ebay. I received it in about 3 days without any issues. I also recieved a car charger and a carmount kit and didn't even know I was suppossed to!

Good luck.
[Touch HD General] x5-rwk:
ebay

link
[Touch HD General] jambrose:
I won a HD from Sprite Software: http://www.spritesoftware.com/Blog/May-2009/Winners-of-the-Sprite-Backup-Feature-Hunt

I assume that it is a Telstra 850 since Sprite Software is in New Zealand. Any one use a FUZE before their HD? Wondering if it is better or about the same feature wise and if they miss the hardware keyboard.

I am in the Portland Oregon area so getting HSPDA now with the FUZE.

So hopefully it is 850 here and will work with the HD.

Can't wait like everyone else that ordered from down under.
[Touch HD General] frankw45:
I got my T8285 Touch HD today but was disappointed that I didn't get an "H" right out of box as many other people did. Here are the band selections in my phone settings,

Auto

GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100)

GSM(1900)+UMTS(850)

GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(850+2100)

GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(850)

Do these items look different from yours? Right now I can only get GSM and EDGE working using selection "GSM(1900)+UMTS(850)". If I force to use "WCDMA", it doesn't pick up any network.

Is it because my area (Raleigh, North Carolina) only supports 1900 band but not 850 band based on this map?

http://cellularmap.net/att_850_1900.shtml

here is my device information,

ROM version: 1.21.841.1 (38850) WWE

ROM date: 01/06/09

Radio version: 1.10.25.25

Protocol version: 52.57.25.30H

Model No.: Touch_HD_T8285

Do I need to flash any custom ROMs to get it working?

I greatly appreciate your help.

Thanks,

Frank
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
the only thing required to get 3G access on the Telstra HD (on at&t) is to be in the presence of a good 850 3G signal. doesn't look like you're in a STRONG 850 3G signal area (if i'm looking at the maps correctly). at my home, i rarely got an H because of a weak 3G signal. that has since changed because they added an 850 3G tower about 1 mile from my home. might be worth asking an at&t corp store rep if your area has 850 3G access, and if so, where is the strongest signal. heck, if you're in the store you might get an H if they have a strong 850 3G signal. you can also change the UMTS band settings to 850 and 1900 to see if that helps. if you don't get a signal, (e.g., signal to make a call) then the 850 3G signal is too weak.

one thing you'll have to do (if you haven't done so already) is to configure your device for at&t's internet settings. if i remember correctly, Telstra's settings are locked down... you can google Cingular wap settings cab to find a cab file to install to your device. of course there's the "flash-a-new-ROM" method that will automatically prompt you to install at&t's settings.
[Touch HD General] frankw45:
Thanks for your response, Cortez!

I just read somewhere else saying AT&T only has PCS licenses in certain markets and they are only able to use the 1900 MHz band. These markets include Raleigh, NC, Phoenix-Tucson, AZ, and Albuquerque, NM, etc. I guess I have a bad luck here. However, based on your understanding about the 850 band nationwide expansion, will every city eventually get 3G moved over to 850 regardless what licenses they are using right now?

Regarding the AT&T's internet settings, you are talking about the following setting, right?

access point: wap.cingular

user: WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM

password: CINGULAR1

I have those configured and was able to get internet access on EDGE

also back to one of my previous questions, are your band selections in the phone setting same or different from mine? or do they really matter?

Thanks,

Frank
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
my understanding is that at&t is expanding their use of the 850 3G band nationwide, but i don't know the timetable and market rollout plans. my band settings are different than yours because i'm using a custom ROM (miri WM 6.5). nonetheless, i can still get a 3G signal (e.g., H). the band setting really doesn't matter when it comes to "receiving" a 3G signal. if there's a strong 850 3G signal, your device will get 3G. setting the band to anything else will force the phone to search and use the selected band. if the phone doesn't find a the selected band you won't have a signal, e.g., you won't be able to make a call.
[Touch HD General] minhgi:
T8285 At&t experiences

OK Guys,

I just got my Touch HD connected to 3G band through AT&T. I think it is no better than the Omnia that I am currently using.

The HD have the H icon with 4 bars and surfing and watching youtube is about the same with edge on my Omnia.

What am I doing wrong? I live in N Houston where the coverage is good. But at home, I am only getting edge.

Looks like I am going to forgo the HD and get Acer M900. I will put it up forsale in the Market forum soon.
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
i recall reading posts by tucomora (who lives in Houston) where he suggests that 850 3G coverage is not as prominent in Houston as it might be in other cities. to make sure i'm reading your post correctly, you're able to connect to at&t's 3G service ok and you say speed is "about" the same as EDGE on your Omnia. when you say "coverage is good", which coverage are you referring to? is it general cell coverage or 3G coverage? with the HD, 850 3G coverage is required. if you're at home - where you say you're only getting EDGE - then your speeds will likely be similar to the Omnia. if you're in an area with a strong 850 3G signal, test surfing/youtube again to see if there's a difference. if you're in a fringe coverage area, your speeds will likely be less than 3G.

unfortunately for us US users, that absence of the 1900 3G band can impact 3G access with the HD. it's a tradeoff that some of us are willing to make... bottom line is to get what makes you happy and works for you! if it's the Acer M900 then go with your instincts, get it and enjoy it!
[Touch HD General] minhgi:
Is it true that AT&T use the 850 band for upload and 1900 for download. At home, I can only get the edge signal. Now if I goes to the nearest Startbucks, I get 3G with 4bars. I had stay at the place for 4 hrs doing tests such as surfing, youtube, and speed test against my Omnia. The speed I getting is very similiar to my Omnia. I had expected more from the HD. Maybe the HD lack the 1900 band for download speed???????
[Touch HD General] vegasjb:
3g Q's

Are you able to conference call now with the 3g and what about at&t's video share... how does that work if at all... or do you recommend another service...

Really Mad the my 8282 isn't compatible... :(
[Touch HD General] turcomora:
Hey bro I am in Houston also and my speeds are very different. In the medical center I get the "H" 4 bars and my download speeds are well into the 900kbps. If I travel a little outside 610 then I usually drop to edge and my speeds are 300kbps. If you want to hit me up and give some locations around town I can test my speeds.
[Touch HD General] turcomora:
Hey cortez, do you have in settings for media net in proxy settings checked where it says " This network connects to the Internet"?
[Touch HD General] eighty1:
changE from t8285 to 8282

Does anyone know why after flashing a rom the model number identity of the device changes to t8282 on the splash screen in device info?
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
...i suspect it's because the ROM cooks are are using ROMS built for the European version of the HD (e.g., T8282).
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
yes i do...
[Touch HD General] xchicagoan5:
Could Use Settings Too

I have recently received the HD from Australia but I cannot get it to connect to the internet. I live in an 850 area. I used the setting from my Touch Diamond but it still doesn't connect. I am open to suggestions.
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
are you using the Stock ROM? since you don't mention if you've still got the stock Telstra settings and what your Touch internet settings were/are, i can only suggest you try, Start Menu->Settings->Connections->Connections, click Manage existing connections and make sure you have Media Net selected. if you're considering flashing to a custom ROM, then once the flash is complete, you can have the device automatically configure at&t's connection settings.
[Touch HD General] xchicagoan5:
That was the 1st thing I did. The Network connections is pre-configured to Telstra. When I change the network settings, they don't stick. I check the box for Media NET but it reverts back to Telstra. I see the big fat H, but I cannot use it : ( I have tried to do Hard SPL so I can put a custom ROM in place, but it isnt working. I have used Hard SPL in the past to flash lots of phones. If you have another idea besides flashing, I am not opposed.
[Touch HD General] mpf54:
When I got mine a few weeks ago it did not what to connect at any thing other than edge speeds. The telstra rom was junk so I flashed to Dutty's rom and still had problems through a few roms. Then it just started working right. I am now using Lost in Asia V5.0 WM 6.5 and it is working great. I normally have a H showing. I have no idea why it changed and just started working but it did. The auto connetion program always seems to set it up properly. If you are having problems go into the connection and make sure use proxy is not checked and see it that works for you.

But I think the besk thing you can do is get rid of the telstra rom
[Touch HD General] memillh:
Chicago area?

Hi - I saw someone ask a while back about picking up the 850 within Chicago, but there was really no response. I'm about to shell out some bucks for a T8285, but I'm still hearing that most of Chicago is still 1900. Can anyone in the Chicago area confirm this? I live near Wrigley Field - and work downtown. I stream a lot of Slingplayer video, so I really need the 3g. Any help would greatly be appreciated - before I make the "investment." :)
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
my one day HD, 3G experience: was in chicago last friday and had mixed coverage from o'hare to the downtown westin hotel (on dearborn?). at o'hare i got a solid 3G signal, but as i got closer to downtown, my Telstra HD switched from H to EDGE quite frequently. once in the hotel it was strictly EDGE.
[Touch HD General] memillh:
Oh wow! Thanks for the heads up. I keep reading posts elsewhere about the Chicago area still being pretty heavy on the old 1900. This is very good info to have. I work near that Westin..and probably would be using the same tower. :(
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
personally, i wouldn't let this keep me from getting the HD. at&t is working to add more 850 3G towers. i do understand, however, if you need/desire a solid 3G signal on your WM device.
[Touch HD General] memillh:
Hey, took your advice and purchased it anyway. Being shipped via snail mail from Sydney right now. Can't wait to try it out. Worse case scenario, I'll throw it back on eBay.

Any reco's for a good ROM to start with? Can't wait to dump the Telstra and flash it!
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
first, i'd read cRaCKwHoRe's Blackstone Flashing Tutorial and then read it again before flashing your device. there have been many a user that have "scanned" it, flashed a new ROM and then ask "why does my screen have this greenish color" or "why doesn't my phone work". most of the current ROMS require the 1.56 SPL and it you don't have it loaded to your device, you'll experience the green screen/phone won't work issue. i also recommend downloading a device configuaration program called SASHAMI; once you set it up you can flash your device and automatically install your favorite programs in 20 minutes of less (at least i can, lol). right now i'm using Miri's WM 6.5/Manila ROM v16.1. i like the new menu scheme and the screen seems to be more responsive with all of the WM 6.5 ROMs. there are plenty of ROMs to choose from. i recommend reading the the ROM threads and then deciding on what might work best for you. hope this helps!
[Touch HD General] memillh:
Thanks... yeah, I've been studying up on that tutorial already. As soon as I get the phone and start tweaking it, I'll report back.
[Touch HD General] memillh:
Well, I promised I would report back. I took delivery of my T8285 earlier this week. I successfully flashed it to Dutty's v3.9 XT Turbo ROM - and had a chance to test it on my commute this morning, here in Chicago. Unfortunately, I only locked onto the 850 MHz 3G tower for half of the trip - and am currently not receiving 3G downtown. For those in the Chicago area, I had a solid 3G signal all the way from my home at Belmont & Ashland to Lake & Ashland (even better than my old Palm Treo Pro). Transferred over to the Green Line "L" at Lake St. and had a solid 3G signal all the way downtown until just before Clark & Lake. From then on - until now, I am only getting an Edge symbol on the device (assuming 1900 MHz). I work at Lake and Michigan - and even via power cycling have not been able to get back to an 850 MHz 3G "H" tower.

As mentioned by others, this mix of towers may not be an issue for some. However, I really enjoy watching my Slingbox on my commute each day. It was worth the try. But, I guess it's heading back to eBay!

Hope this was helpful!
[Touch HD General] Visionikz03:
Seems to me like alot of people are getting sketchy 3G reception with this Telstra HD. And if you put a Telstra HD(T8285) next to any other HD(T8282) what is the difference that is causing the Telstra version to receive 3G and the other not to receive?
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
i take it you haven't read this thread.... they have different radios: the Telstra/T8525 has the 850 3G band that works in Australia, USA and Canada. the UK HD/T8282 has 3G bands that work in Europe. Both have the 850/900/1800/1900 GSM/EDGE bands. if you know anything about US 3G bands on at&t then you'd know that at&t uses the 850 and 1900 bands for 3G. since the Telstra HD only has the 850 band, you'll get 3G in places where there's a strong 850 3G signal. :)
[Touch HD General] Visionikz03:
Maybe you haven't taken a look at the list of available band selections in the UK HD phone menu. It clearly lists it as follows : GSM(1900+850)+UTMS(1900+850)

That to me says that it "supports" BOTH ATTs 3G AND GSM/EDGE bands. And that is the issue everyone is trying to figure out. Why it says that but it doesn't work with ATT. So obviously it cannot be an issue of using both bands or not. That's why i'm asking this question. Yes i can see the radios are different i read the wiki page thank you. And if the radio is the issue, why is everyone buying new Telstra HDs rather than just flashing the Telstra rom available from HTC directly with the radio that supposedly works in the states to the UK HD. Obviously there is another fundamental difference between the two besides the radio or i don't think people would spend another $500+ on a new HD when they can download the ROM for free! That my friend is what i want to know!
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
sorry you took offense to my comment. but many of the concerns, questions, issues, etc., you raised have been addressed in great detail. and yes, i am well aware that those [band] values exists in the phone settings. i had the UK HD at one time and those values existed in that phone. unfortuantely, it's been common practice for HTC to include those values in their respective devices that WILL NOT SUPPORT US 3G bands. just because they're there doesn't mean it will support US 3G bands. HTC told everyone that the UK HD would not support US 3G bands, early adopters verified it and this has been discussed many, many times in this and other threads e.g., Diamond, Diamond 2.

here's another example: my Telstra HD does not include the GSM(1900+850)+UTMS(1900+850) values in the phone settings menu and I still get US 850 3G access. those of us in the US bought the Telstra version because IT'S A PROVEN fact that the phone's radio - read: hardware, chip, whatever you want to call it - will support at&t's 850 3G band. it's a radio/hardware difference and can't be modified via ROM flashing... again this has been discussed in great detail here. and i'm sorry you took offense to my comments..:)
[Touch HD General] turcomora:
More good news for T8285 owners thanks to the iphone 3gs:)

http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=4509
[Touch HD General] bigwill3:
ive run across a bit of a problem. first, have any of you experienced intermittent screen failure? my screen will occasionally fail to turn on. the phone works fine, the buttons respond with haptic feedback, i can raise and lower volume, i can control it with pocker controller or mobiler, but the screen is off. it remains off even though a soft reset (can't see the startup sequence, which leads me to believe its hardware). after a while of non use it comes back

ive tried searching, but imagine what "black" or "blank" screen searches turn up (sleep on call threads)

has anyone come across this? if not, i'm assuming its a hardware issue. if that's the case, what's a U.S. 8285 owner to do re warranty support? are we out of luck?
[Touch HD General] Visionikz03:
Oh no I wasn't offended I was just that u answered a question with a question that's all. But it's not a big deal. I'm not even concerned about switching to another model HD. I was just curious if it had concretely been determined that it was in fact the radio version that affected the T8282. But thanks for the apology anyway.
[Touch HD General] turcomora:
I had problems with one of my first 8285 and was told by htc in houston they do not support the 8285 and that I would have to ship it to htc australia.
[Touch HD General] dB Zac:
I just got my tesla Touch HD, I flashed the Hard SPL 1.56, and Miri's 6.5 rom. I get "h" but I You Tube will not down load videos and Amaze will not down load maps. I have The 3G turned on, am I missing a step?
[Touch HD General] dB Zac:
Never mind. The You tube was a Cingular proxy issue and Amaze is downloading maps fine now
[Touch HD General] RAP5:
Got a T8285 earlier this week, used and under $575.00 delivered.

Must say I am impressed. I live in a rural area outside of ATL where 1900mhz is primary ( according to all online sources ). I get H 90% of the time. Seems to drop to Edge during busy - peak - usage times during a work day. I notice 300-600kbs on DSL Reports Speed tests during peak hours of work days. Drive 1 mile down the road, bam 1000kbs and up to 1365Kbs. If you really love the HD T8282, and are on AT&T in/near a large AT&T city, get one of these. They are starting to come down in price as they are approaching a year in age. I believe with the release of the Iphone 3GS, AT&T has boosted 850Mhz without announcing to the public.

This phone had a custom rom, all I had to do was flash 1.56 HSPL and install the latest HTC EU ROM. Will be trying one of Dutty's later but getting off the Telstra ROM was a treat.

After owning a T8282 and struggling with 110kbs on Edge, this is a real treat.