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[General Topics] F2504x4:
I am posting this because of what this user said and got flamed because it,

Guy's in case you are not aware of it....here are new rules are regarding Flaming etc etc....And with the recent flaming of a member here...here is a quote from the new rules ...

http://xdaforums.com/announcement.php?f=263

Now this user post a thread and even stated he had trouble with the search not finding what he was looking for, and yet several member just had to flame him , mostly newbies that have been here a short time themselves.

And I ask the mods to help re-enforce these rules and send the message to we need to be respectful of each other....and yes I know this is in the Development forum, but since it is happening in here , many of the users need to be reminded of it..

As to the Search engine here on XDA well it does lack the ability to weed out Il-Revelate info so till it can , keep in mind that many users do attempt to search for the info but the search results do not give them what they seek, so let just help out the user and answer there question and move on...

or just do not reply period if you can not be helpful..
[General Topics] Travito:
There's a rule before that one that says to "Search Before Posting"

the only time I am hard on newbies is if they don't search or do work themselves. And if you're referring to the thread I think you're referring to, you should know that I've actually received a PM from that individual, and we have both explained our views very plainly and I am awaiting his reply.

I'm actually working on a project to avoid these problems in the future. You'll like it. But note that this is also kind of an attack against everyone here, though you have a valid point, perhaps this would be better personally and politely sent to those whom you think are at fault in a PM?

Edit: yeah, you're right, it does often turn up irrelevant info, but if you see threads getting pulled up, click the thread and search within the thread to find relevant posts in the thread. Also, the thread title for this thread, though I see you're trying to get everyone's attention for it, is misleading and inappropriate for the topic at hand.
[General Topics] Cal-El:
I respect both of you and see that you both have valid points, there is a fine line to be walked when it comes to this, I think it comes down to treating others as you would want to be treated. I am amazed at how much I learn when I am just trying to help someone else out! So that being said, I think it can do a person some good to devote some of their time on XDA everyday to helping someone out, even five min can make a difference to somebody, might even save them a $300 phone! And thats all I have to say about that! (Forest Gump) :)
[General Topics] F2504x4:
Trav ,

first off this is not meant as a attack but it did need to be strongly word...granted you are correct that it does comes off that way.;)..and i know that there are a great many here do go out of there way to help others..To those this thread is not directed at you.

As to the title ...well it seems that the banner displaying the new rules info is not getting the attention of small group that still continue the flaming...hence the title...

More users and mods need to get the message across to those that do the flaming and are disrespectful to others needs to stop...
[General Topics] Travito:
y'know my momma always said that life is like a box of chocolates, you never do know which one you're going to get.
[General Topics] F2504x4:
[/IMG] :D
[General Topics] msd24200:
can you post link to this flamed thread so that others can look at it?
[General Topics] F2504x4:
I see this thread has been moved...

I have a suggestion then...if the mods are going to remove threads like this that bring attention to issues that are going on in the forum then more attention needs to be paid to those users who flame and disrespect others in those forums........

Here is my suggestion on how to handle them.. when mods read a thread that has flaming going on in it...before locking it...they need to make a post addressing the flaming issue and point it out what will happen if it continues..

Maybe consider bringing on more mods to help with the work load that the current ones are dealing with, I am not knocking the current ones, .they do a great job , but this is a huge site and it is growing fast .

BTw this thread was originally in the Kaiser Rom forum where the problem originally occurred and still continues..
[General Topics] msd24200:
they have 60 mods and will not be bringing on more, thats what i was told by a mod, do you have a link to the thread in question?
[General Topics] F2504x4:
Hmmm 60 mods interesting..:cool:

Link? just look in many of the forums..this is not a new problem...

but it is a very easily fixable one ...

by enforcing this

by Flar Administrator

2. Be polite and respect your fellow xda-dev user.

There is no need for cursing, flaming, racism or personal attacks. There are a lot of different nationalities on this forum all with different cultures, this means that no matter what you're like, you'll have to adjust to people that are most definitely not like you. It will gain you a lot of respect if you help to keep the peace. It's disrespectful and therefore not permitted to create Alias Member names in an attempt to deceive others.
[General Topics] denco7:
Here is a link so that people can read the WHOLE thread, instead of the tiny bit you took out of context. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=494625

The guy got flamed ( and I did not consider that flaming) because he posted a belligerent and antagonizing thread in the ( wrong ) rom development forum, not because he was a noob politely asking for help.

If you are going to take the members of this forum to task, do it with all the information please.
[General Topics] F2504x4:
If you really want to get to the real reason behind this thread ...what caused him to make that post in the first place huh? do you know ? could it be that he asked a simple question and got the usual responses ? nawww

I was not going to drag that user into this thread like you have....I felt he has caught enough flak as it is...so what do you think will be gained by you dragging his name into this...? :rolleyes:

Cause and effect...and his thread is not the only time someone got flamed for asking a simple question is it now ? EVEN AFTER they stated they had tried to use the search .

I wonder if you will answer these questions / or was your intent to attempt to turn the tables away from the real issue at hand ?

Btw that thread was closed with only one response from a mod..

As to the part i used....that is the main point of this thread incase you missed it..
[General Topics] egzthunder1:
Well, I agree with you and believe me that most mods are actually enforcing the flaming when they see it. I have seen full threads stopped in their tracks prior to becoming flame wars.

Now, the search engine thing is kinda like a vicious cycle. All the new threads and posts started with commonly asked questions will only add more to the results coming out in the search engine. So, each time someone else uses the engine, he/she will get one million plus one posts. After being annoyed due to not finding the answer they were looking for after the first few posts they go through, they feel they need to make their voices heard and hence a new thread is born.... adding more stuff that the search engine will pull up each time someone looks for that particular subject.

Is there a way around this? Maybe...

Do we know it? Sure as hell not yet, but we have to keep on fighting...
[General Topics] denco7:
Unlike you, when I see a post like this I go straight to the persons profile page to see where they are coming from.

This was his sixth over all post, out of the five previous posts, he received immediate answers to 2 of his questions, one of his questions went unanswered in a 150 page thread and his other two questions were answered by Noonski ( mod ). Noonski answered his final question with a polite, " the question has already been answered in thread."

At which point he switched from the wizard to the Kaiser and without any further posts, started this ranting ( no question, mind you, just ranting ) in the Kaiser Rom Dev forum.

The thread speaks for itself. What I am saying, is if you want to take the other members of this forum to task, then do it with your own thoughts and opinions. Or at least use credible examples of abuse,

You lose all credibility when you carefully edit, out of context, examples like you did, that really had nothing to do with your point. If you want to rant, stand up and rail away ( I'm not a real big fan of some of the moderation on this site either ) against the other members, but please note that this guy ( in the wrong forum ) came totally out of left field with this rant, so can you please find better examples, perhaps from people who have in fact been polite and courteous and have gotten flamed anyway for asking a simple question.

:):D:) My track record for helping people speaks for itself, you are more than welcome to review each and every one of my 980 posts, along with the 1300 posts I have over at htcwiki.com , for any flaming. While sometimes I use humor to chide people, I am one of the good guys.
[General Topics] F2504x4:
Denco7,

I do not go to a persons profile, why not ? well i look at the post just like most users do....and part of the problem is that newbies will see flaming and will think that it is okay to do it, especially after if a mod has replied to the thread and says nothing about the flaming and or disrespect that went on , so this small group will think it is okay to post insults , non revelate comments, basically they think since a mod did not say anything, they feel it is okay to do it...

As to your track record I have seen you help out newbies with out really flaming them, so i do not consider you part of the overall problem..

but I do have issue with why you felt the need to bring this user and post up his info...when it was not necessary, I am still wondering why you did it..when this issue surrounds flamming those that state they used the search engine but with no luck...
[General Topics] denco7:
Because many people read that thread and I thought your overall good message was getting over shadowed by your choice of examples. Unfortunately the person you used as the rallying point of your message was belligerent and antagonistic, which is why he was written off by the other members and eventually the mods. He was never wronged and his rant was baseless and unconstructive, I didn't want to see your message written off by a the poor example you chose as a rallying point.

He did not use the search engine because he had no question, only a rant in an inappropriate forum.
[General Topics] R3PUBL1K:
People are to lazy to search

While behaviour breeds behaviour. So starting a flame war is not great. IMO. I will just normally reply with something helpful especially when the search can be somewhat daunting on any site.

I think! here is a good example of someone clearly fabricating the truth about "I tried searching" when they clearly haven't.

Here is a quoted message from another forum...

This is my reply.

I even included the cab file and a link to a post.

Well, thats just me.

It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice. :D
[General Topics] msd24200:
thanks denco, i had already read that thread, but didn't know that was the thread in question, but i did have a feeling it might have been.;)

EDIT: WHAT DOES THIS THREAD HAVE TO DO WITH RULES OF SEX?
[General Topics] msd24200:
every one that can read will have a different opinion on what is considered flaming i guess. how about we just sticky to the first page of all forums a new thread entitled:

"i need help, ask your questions here if you don't know where to properly ask them"

then newbs & old but rarely on here members can go and ask there questions, and those of us that are extremely active can go into that thread if we choose to, to help out those people?

xda could even fix it to where if you post a new thread it would have to be viewed by a mod or admin and get approval before it showed up on a forum?
[General Topics] F2504x4:
Good idea, and instead of having mods approve the question , just set the thread to automatically purge the posts after 48 hrs..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] poceh:
Duttythroy's HTC HD (BlackStone) V2.3 XTREME ROM just came in!

Introducing version V2.3 of the famous XTREME ROM, a new Build 5.2.21028 and CE OS 5.2.21032.1.6.0.

Dutty's HD V2.3 XTREME Change Log for |WWE|

* Fixed SMS bug when creating new SMS and selecting names in selection box which often crashes.

* Fixed The \'My Contact Card\', cannot add a new image to the card and save it.

* Fixed Manilla font issue in certain applications. I.e. add a picture to a contact/changing Wallpaper.

* Fixed Home buttons now and also with working with the new Start Menu. [Thanks to Hankv2]

* Fixed Device ID info.

* Fixed Internet Launcher tab in Manila.

* Removed IE6 and Adobe Flash plugin.

* Added Opera Browser 9.5.15613.

* Added New HTC Album from Topaz.

* Added New HTC Camera from Topaz.

* Added back in HTC GPS tOOL.

* Added back in old File Explorer

* TomTom tested and works great both in portrait and landscape mode.

* Enable Enlarge Start Menu in New TouchFlo settings.

* Remove Social network due to New HTC Album which doesnt support facebook upload.

* If you appreciate my work and time spent on this ROM please consider a Donation.

Things to know about this ROM.

I have implemented some changes which I have to for the ROM to be more stable and because of it been ported from

a new device it made more sense. Some of the changes are:

* This ROM is a test ROM and is for more for advance users who dont mind flashing thier devices also flash at your own risk.

* Remove old HTC Album due to the new mmanila is also link to it, unfortunately doesnt support facebook upload.

* Remove Social network due to new HTC ALBUM not suporting it..

* Added New HTC Camera from Topaz due to its more advantage of better picture taking and also link with the new contact card, disadvantage no zoom available.

* The old HTC Camera can be installed by installing the cab in the download folder.

* Have tested the Rom for one day and all in all everything worked for me and I love it so far.

* Just to remind everyone again you can enable landscape for most apps in the ROM by just checking 270 degrees angle in FLIP IT.

* With the new HTC Album rotation seems to change from the old one, but sure enough we will get this working for us soon.

PLEASE DO NOT CHECK OR PLAY WITH EXCEPTIONS OF THESE APPLICATIONS.

@ OPERA

@ CAMERA

@ CPROG

@ TEETER

Please Hard Reset after Flashing Rom this will make your device performs better.

I am copying from Dutty's Site to create a thread for members using this ROM to help each other and talk about it. The creator of this ROM is not responsible for this thread, nor am I. Please be respectful of the cook and other members on this thread

Dutty's Website (changelog and download) : http://duttythroy.net
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dosari666:
Thanks Dutty!! For your great effort with another great ROM!!..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] afr33s:
Another day another Dutty! ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Garfoid:
how do i hard reset after flashing
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Wafong:
can not download, the link jump to another website. :(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dgen:
Oh come on -_-

:confused:

vol up + vol down + power on

pff
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fwt:
if you have registered go to the bottom of the site goto "Downloads => Duttys HD Rom Series => HD V2.3 XTREME"

Klick on "Ruu_Signed_Dutty's_HD_V2.3_XTREME_5.2.21032.1.6.0 Download"

The last line before the Summary there is a Link to RS

Copy and paste in URL-Line

Have fun downloading
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mpf54:
You might try the seach feature to find this out.

With the device turned off, press and hold the VOLUME UP and VOLUME DOWN buttons, then briefly press the POWER button.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fwt:
@Garfoid:

RTFM

or

goto Setting => Clear Storage => Type 1234 => Press OK
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Wafong:
setting-clear storage

input 1234, it's done
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fwt:
Backup finished

DL 1:03 min to go :D:D:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fwt:
DL finished ... :cool:

This is gonna be a looooong night

:eek:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mpf54:
Rapidshare link is up

http://rapidshare.com/files/210887108/Ruu_Signed_Dutty_s_HD_V2.3_XTREME_5.2.21032.1.6.0.zip
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Garfoid:
thanks, the word "briefly" made all the difference, was holding all 3 for ages and nothing
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MiguelR2005:
Mirror site working, although you must copy and paste, the link doesn´t link.

Downloading, thanks! :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Urokinase:
I think Dutty doesnt want any Mirror Links here.

MfG Uro
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fallenangel408:
+1 let them register(donate if you like) and get the download from him.

instead give them his site : )

http://duttythroy.net/

THANKS DUTTY!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Wafong:
thank you! downloading now...:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Wafong:
agree with you. :p

download speed is very slow. can not wait to flash!

Thank you Dutty, to bring us such great joy!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] 2unique:
Regarding Links and Mirror Links - page 14 of Dutty's EXTREME 2.2 forum - Dutty states that he doesn't mind his ROMS being linked here on XDA for download but suggests you use links from his website
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] precsmo:
I will always follow the rules:rolleyes:. Flashing the rom while I'm typing here!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] onesolo:
Can anyone tell me what is the version of Manilla??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] SBS_:
Just found a small bug, don't know if it has been mentioned somewhere before.

If I try to change the resolution of video-capture with the new camera software the whole phone becomes unresponsive and a soft-reset is neccesary.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Otherwise this is a fantastic ROM, just updated from Duttys 1.9 and I definiately like what I'm seeing. Always more fun to wait a few versions before you upgrade again since you can see the changes more clearly :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bill340:
On the new Start-Menu, is it somehow possible to also remove the first 5 (locked) icons, so you can put your own programs here?

Thanks!

Found it:

HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\ProgramLauncher\0\IsReadOnly set to "0".
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] precsmo:
Great! I was wondering that too!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xelosman:
Start menu issue

When customising the new start menu, is there a way to remove the first 5 items which have "locked" icons beside them? so I can get more room for progs I more commonly use.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skenderbeggar:
Change the following value:

HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\Program Launcher\0\IsReadOnly\1 <--(DWORD Data, Dec)

from 1 to 0 will do.

Delete any "1" value to "0" and then display the start screen in remove mode.

It's posted somewhere on this forum.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kieboy:
No bugs encountered in changing the resolution in video-capture. FYI

Best ROM ever using new manila with RHODIUM new start menu, thanks Dutty and for all making this ROM possible.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tigabert:
Great ROM, no issues at all except:

The new album has difficulties playing converted MP4 movie on the THD.

It either takes a long time to load or hangs the device.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] precsmo:
A bit sad that the Manila program tab is not working properly. Even if it is activated through registry edit, some problem with the software keys, really hope someone will have the fix soon! Also, hope the messages with 3 lines text to be fixable within the same rom version without waiting or flashing the phone all over again with the new rom version.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] root:
Does someone have Cyberon Voice Speed Dial cab? Dutty stopped adding it to the rom but i cant find it anywhere here... (MSVC is bad alternative for me as i am not from english speaking country and some names are hard to pronounciate in english... for fun you can try with name of my city - ljubljana :D )
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] etronic:
New ROM is really brilliant!!! Testing it now. Thanks for that Dutty.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hmmhmm1222:
it worked, or sort of. i do get more icons but when trying to add programs they wont show. so when adding a prog it wont show the app or lauch it it just brings up the list of programs to chose from..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] K_Hismoom:
Same problem here. The additional buttons show up, but you adding a program won't work.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Silentd:
also the same problem
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Quick query. Just did a search through this thread though found no answer. Where is the orginal registry editor which came with previous Duttys ROMs?

Usual location was Windows/regedit but its not there

anyone?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] K_Hismoom:
It's the TaskManager that comes with the ROM. You can start it, then switch to the RegEdit tab and from there create program shortcuts. It will then appear under your programs.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Excellent, don't know how I missed that...not enough sleep, too much drink...who knows!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] simdao:
Does anyone have G-sensor rotate issue on this build ?

I disable g-sensor on TFO3D and flip it but it sill auto rotate in dialer.

On beside, the GPRS will be disconnected while minimize the MSN or opera, how to keep it always on without install another software.

The last issue i founds, system freeze sometime while push the power bottom wake up my phone from stand-by.

Thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] carlowise:
music player

I also can't play music in tft 3d, won't searc for music, anything
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jimbo29:
About camera button...

How can i change it to contacts?

Please guide me to change the dutty's camera button to contacts...

Thank you!

Cheers!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] PapaDocta:
jimbo29,

the easiest way is to download HD Tweak 0.5.4
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Start Menu automatically opens with program!!

Annoying little bug seems to appear once you have returned to the old start menu and restored the programs tab.

If I open any program through the programs tab the start menu is automatically opened along with program??

Anyone else came across this?:confused:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jimbo29:
I did this but when i click to contacts it shows the old windows contacts interface... i want to see the same contacts like in call history!

Thank you!

Cheers!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
I have also noticed another annoying bug. I have restored programs tab and old start menu.

If I enter the Programs Tab the 2 soft keys i.e. All Programs & Remove will now appear in all tabs. If I soft reset they return to the soft kets I have set i.e. New sms & Contacts. Only problem is everytime I enter programs tab they return to All Programs and Remove and stay this way until I reset again!:mad:

Anyone else experienced this?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tidus18:
+1. I can confirm this. Also adding extra buttons in new start menu through registry allows to choose programs, but it does not appear once selected.