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[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] dingolino:
Hi,

I feel sorry about the situation. I saw all the great response about the ROMs of Dutty and thought it would be therefore great for my new X1.

I realy hope that Dutty will come back! If not soon than hopefully later.

From my point of view selling the X1 is not a good solution because it was intended to improve the development for the X1 and it will not get back the original money, so it is another loss.

It Dutty realy wants to get rid of it - what I could understand after all this bull**** happend - maybe this X1 could be used for Schaps to develop his TouchXperience for the X1.

I donated also Schaps for his work on TouchXperience while I had my Kaiser.

I know that he is working very hard on his project and he made also a lot of good ROMs in the past.

Best regards

dingolino
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] dogans:
My thoughts exactly.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] mike19722:
?

Thanks.....see ya later.....:confused:

Peace

Mike
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Killbillprime:
all the best mate-

some of us have really appericated your hard work over the years.

Take care

N2h
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] BadTasteUK:
I feel for Dutty, as I do for all of the cooks. These are really smart and hard working people who don't deserve to receive the negative comments they all seem to get.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] thedeva:
A very sad day indeed that it has come to this, but family / personal life always comes first so hope everything is OK and wish you all the best.

Now as being one of the ones that donated to this phone, first thing is I don't want my money back but others may as there were a few that donated a lot more than me. I would be more than happy for Dutty to keep the phone as well, at least for a while until 'things' settle down. However, Dutty if your mind is made up and you want to give it up, I it would make sense for it to go to another chef like Schaps as mentioned already, but thats if they want to of course.

Dutty, as a few have already mentioned, I'd still like to have a play with what you have done to date, bugs and all so let us know.

Anyway, thats my thoughts at the moment but happy to hear what the others that donated think.

Dev
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] imatrix:
I am actually in process of getting the device from a friend, I dont have to now.

this is a big blow to the xda community. SUCK!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] romeo0119:
Yea it sucks that it has to go down like this. I did donate to the cause and hope it would work out but it didnt so oh well. We should have a vote to see what chef would get the phone. I dont want my donation back, I would like to see the phone put to good use. I rather a good chef here in the xperia board to have it so he or she can cook and test out the roms. That just my 2 cents, again I dont want any part of my donated money comming back to me.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] tjex:
Best option is if we can convince Dutty to release the same version (1.9) for X1 but for him to take his time. No rush... We've all waited so long, what's a little longer :rolleyes:

But in all fairness, if he's done, he's done.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Punyman:
Well...I will ask the community, something : Is anyone interested to buy, a X1i with Generic UK, R2AA010 room ? It is made on 08w43, have been fixed in warranty (cracks in case) and have extra warranty from CPS 1 year, registred on Dec 15. It has screen protector from day one and I just installed HardSPL on it. Price ? $ 500. (I paid $995 back in Nov. on it). My e-mail is americanfreightline@yahoo.com I...am done with this,I will downgrade to Blackberry....
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] mike19722:
???

this is crazy....give me a break....Dutty is a person and this is turning out to be another stupid thread.....Dutty is leaving us for awhile...let him go in peace....*****ing over what you should do over a Phone....for heavens sakes....:mad:
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] theredundant:
who's *****ing again?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] gerardcon:
Hey chill, no need for you to get confrontational. This is a COMMUNITY here. :)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Loco5150:
I agree... We should donate the device to someone who we think will develope great roms for our devices.

Again I see many posts here by people who have not donated for this and are now telling what they think the device should be used for. I cant belive how stupid you are, it does not consern you and if you have not donated please dont say anything regarding that.

However if you have donated any amount your opinion counts, does not matter if its big or small.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ninja.rogue:
I would ask Dutty to hand the X1 to Laurentius26, or udK, provided that one of them is prepared to, obviously...
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] phoenixnr:
Sorry to see you go dutty. :( I have used many of your roms over the last little while. I totally understand why you are leaving. Good luck with everything and if you ever decide to come back I know you will be welcomed!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] knaplullig:
sad to see a member go

its really a great loss of the comunity..

fully understand the reason. this is a comunity where (normally) people tread eachother with respect and and helpfullness.

over the last weeks things have gone wild maybe because of the upcoming hipe on wm devices or i don't know.

sort out your own stuff first when the time is right we will hear from you again and we will welcome you back with open arms then.

but first fix up yourself thats the main thing!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] alwayslearning:
I have an X1i you can have at a great price, PM me. I had to buy an X1a, I also gave (big) to the X1 for Dutty, right now i don't ahve an opion what should happen to it. As I see it we gave it to Dutty and it is his to do what he wants.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] jerpelea:
Thanks duttythroy for your hard work and all your great releases

i need that you are a great person and agree with your decision but i hope that you reconsider

Br and happy coking
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] duttythroy:
As soon as I will be able to release a proper dump of the source, I promise to release here on X1 thread as I feel very bad not making a ROM.

However my decision still stands to give the device back to the community.

Have a good weekend, I havent the time to read all through this thread i will when I get sometime.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] fards:
That'd be really great, and very much appreciated.

pity you didn't come to play on this side of the fence, it's not too bad a gang here, sometimes is almost fun ;)

Zenith, download and have a play with ervius multilang kitchen and have a play with it, it's very nice to use, has a gui and looks to be the way of the future for building roms.. It's still a work in progress, but not bad at all.

If you use the nbh file from the R2A10 rom, this kitchen will extract it for you, you can then have a play and try cooking a basic one from it..
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Soul_Est:
I've followed this thread for quite some time and I must admit it's sad to see you go duttythroy. You really inspired many including myself to take up cooking and work in the spirit of xda-developers sharing information and providing solutions to many a problem with our PocketPC phones. Take care and whatever you do in life, I wish you the best of luck.

As for the X1, I agree that it should be returned to XMOO and let them deal with it. If they decide to send it to another chef for ROM development, I'll take up that offer and switch over to the Xperia X1 scene ONLY after other options have been looked at.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ballfire:
sorry to see ya go...

was waiting for a dutty rom to come out b4 i went out to buy an x1i

guess i'm not buying one now :(

bring on the touch pro 2 :p
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] jackleung:
I am not trying to take advantage from you folks. Since my X1 just has the second cracks (one near the volume and one near the camera) due to too many battery case opening, I am looking for a second X1 (i or a) if the total cost (x1 cost + shipping to San Jose, US) is right. Alwayslearning, can you PM me how much you are looking for including shipping?

Man, this will be the second time I have to ship this to SE to fix the flimsy case in just 2 months.....
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] YYYYY:
I had to replace my XPeria 3 times, the last time they give me a complete new one (production year 2009) and I have no crack yet althoug I take offf the battery cover very often.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Pyrojester:
As one of the people who chipped in for the X1, I vote to sell the thing and be done with this whole mess.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] norti:
Deciding to buy a device on just someone's custom rom is a clever idea? :confused:

The X1 is worth the money with the retail rom too and there are already more people (itje, jackleung and so on) who did great work bringing customized roms to the community ;)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] bararoos:
vote

I vote, send it to the linux on X1 guys, or to Itje if he needs a test device.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ninja.rogue:
@ everybody

The great UdK has agreed to receive the X1 and cook for the forum.

He will get in touch with Xmoo to define shipment details and then when he will receive the phone he will open a new thread.

This is good news for everyone here.

We already have excellent cooks here, and so let's welcome UdK to Xperia world!

Ciao

Paolo
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] imatrix:
this is great news for X1 owners.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] thedeva:
Good work ninja.rogue as usual and much appreciated.

Welcome UdK and look forward playing with your roms and happy to help out if needed.

Cheers,

Dev
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] geraldkw:
Good news Paolo!!! I support you to welcome udK to the Xperia World!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] BadTasteUK:
Great stuff, well done whoever spoke to UdK!

I have his Syrius on my Touch Cruise and it's a flawless ROM.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Angelusz:
How do Udk's ROMs compare to Duttys?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ninja.rogue:
whereas Dutty's Roms tend to be quite similar independently on the device, udK likes more to experiment builds and has access to early releases or betas probably even more than many others here.

Don't ask me or him how, but he has most times first call on "new" roms...

If you just look at kaiser, diamond or touch cruise or other htc phones, and you will find very long threads and quite interesting roms.

Not a guy with many words, our udK, but I most like people that are used to "make" instead of "say".... so he is one of them.

I have contacted him just because of these reasons, and I am quite sure that it will be a good result for the whole Xperia forum.

I hope to receive news soon or that udK directly posts a new thread.

Cheers to everybody.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] THE GRIZZ:
i think the best thing that can boost development here is to have high profile cookers release roms that are unprotected(like vics diamonds rom) so people can experement and modify them.

lets face it, most cookers are not really that intrested in non-htc devices

what do you all think
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] dingolino:
Schaps is alos interested to get a hand on an X1 (for defined duration) to port TouchXperience to the X1.

And if Schaps is doing something he would have also a look into the rom itself to make sure that everything is running smoothly.

I would love to see TouchXperience for the X1

dingolino
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] akp99:
X1 is a HTC device...
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] fards:
most of the new roms are built using Bepes kitchen, it's not that they are "protected" it's just that this kitchen gets rid of quite a lot of unneeded gumf in the build process, which is fantastic for the end user.

The downside is that this gumf is what makes them easy to dump..

I'd rather go with the new kitchen and have the rom cook share their sources (if possible) than have to dump a rom..
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] foxyn:
Sorry to see you leaving the X1 project...my opinion is that you should keep it...you will be back, rather sooner than later, and if not should keep it as a small token of apreciation for all the good work you have done for the community...

PS - I didn't donate for this X1 but if needed, i'm willing to do so, let me know coz i've been one profiting of the work Duttythroy has been doing on other projects...
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] THE GRIZZ:
dont mean to troll around (too late?)but is the phone with udk yet
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] geraldkw:
Any news to share?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ninja.rogue:
afaik Dutty's sending the phone to udK.

Will let you updated.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] mfmmfm:
dear friend,

sad to hear that u quit. but i know u must have a good reason to do that. best luck to you and so to all the other chef, or any supporter to this project.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] theredundant:
any news on the arrival of x1 to udk?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] xmoo:
Dutty contacted me.

He sent the Xperia to day to udK

Here a pic :
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] dogans:
xmoo, that's the same image you posted when you sent the phone to dutty (over 2 months ago):

Look here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3132298&postcount=77

Why would you post it again?

Also, where is udK? Why hasn't he said anything?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] skycamefalling:
And why does he have no shoes and such an ugly carpet? :p
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] dogans:
lol that's xmoo :p (the same picture he took when he sent the phone to dutty)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] xmoo:
I know, but it's only to show that it is a black one :P

I got the Tracking info, i'ma contact udK 2day.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Loco5150:
Hahaha...
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] R3PUBL1K:
looks more like a rug than carpet ;)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] skycamefalling:
Ehm...where is the difference between rug and carpet?

I'm not a native English speaker and every update of my vocabulary helps :)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] THJahar:
A carpet covers the entire floor area of a room and is usually fixed down.

a rug is a square or rectangle shape that covers just part of the floor and is usually not fixed down
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] skycamefalling:
Okay, thank you :)

Then the game "magic carpet" on my first PC was a "magic rug" correctly :D
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] udK:
Hi all, this morning I've received the X1, tomorrow I will start to play with it.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] theredundant:
:D great news. we could use more cooks ;)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] geraldkw:
Yes!

I also had a Diamond and found the X1 a relieve! Curious what your experience will be :p

Have fun with the cooking!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] itje:
great UDK, welcome to x1...its a amazing device
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] AF241:
woohoo! can't wait for your rom. have been using your rom on my diamond for some time and it's my fav one and you're the top chef.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] jackleung:
Welcome to the X1 communicity. There is no turning back to yr Diamond now. :)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Loco5150:
NICE!!!

Nowseeafterthesemessages as thistopicfillswithrequeststocookwhateverintotherom...
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] jo3n:
Maybe close the topic because this is about dutty. And let UDK play with the X1 for a while without any complaining about roms?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] udK:
Thank you ;)

Yes, agree with you.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] CyPh:
I agree, this topic has no use since the donated x1 has been returned to the community. This isn't a request topic nor ROM discussion topic. A mod should close it.

udK, enjoy the world of the Xperia! I know you'll love it! :D
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] THE GRIZZ:
UDK, what do you think of the device so far. do you like it much better than the diamond or only better
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] jtoyz2:
UDK as soon as you like you should start a [PLACEHOLDER] for your project just for now so people can put in what they want to see in your rom and just so people feel comfort that you are working on something...cause i think when Dutty had the device we did not hear anything from him causing people rush him so etc...Hope you like the xperia its a great phone
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] grayme:
It was said of Dutty that he would make his own ROM and it was pointless making demands, how does UDK operate?

(Personally, I consider placeholders as rather self indulgent :o)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Loco5150:
No...

1. Close this thread before it gets out of hand again.

2. UDK opens a thread about a X1 rom when there is a rom.

Thats it.
[General Questions and Answers] shockaj:
I just bought a Samsung Epix, which i believe comes with a preinstalled version of aim that uses data.. I dont have the data package and only the unlimited SMS. Where can you DL a version of SMS AIM? thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sracercelica:
I like the concept :) too bad I know nothing about programing!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] garsim:
wow :eek:

it's very beautiful!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Keland44:
this looks like it could be a good concept for a wisbar desktop skin
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] robi_90:
wow!look great!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ace10134:
I'm thinking about trying to get A_C to help code it. He has done some good stuff with his S2U2 and S2P and everything.

Thanks for taking interest in this though, I'll give you guys a beta version when there is a beta :)

Andrew
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ace10134:
I've also thought about using Wisbar Desktop but I want something that would be a full interface replacement, something thats really smooth, flashy, and beautiful. I could make a quick Wisbar theme, but I want this to be similar to PointUI's original interface.

Developers, where are you? lol. I guess I'll spend my rodeo break learning C++ or whatever you code in. Just kiddin, that would be a long rodeo break.

Honestly developers, anyone out there?

Keep up the hype about this though, it helps.

Thx everyone,

Andrew
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] EnsconcE:
I like the concept, it brings everything to the desktop in a very simple way. Though i have a remark. The arrangement should be different in my opinion. The start-menu should be upper left and the notifications and messages should be in the lower right and left corner.

The start menu should be there because in your current proposition you break with the position of the start menu of the OS. If the upper left corner is the best place can be questioned. But by not breaking with the way the OS is structured you are making your desktop replacement easier to get used to.

The messages and notifications should be at the lower end of the screen because they "belong together". By putting them on the lower bar, they will "work together".

Though you could always let the user choose :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Ufufu:
This seems similar to the TAT concept that Meizu M8 copied (or was it vice versa? I don't think so).

See here for their unlocking ideas:

http://www.tat.se/site/showroom/prototypes_movies2.html

I think the "Boing" one is the prettiest.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ace10134:
Yes the unlock thing is similar to TAT's drag and drop unlock or some of their others. TAT has some real amazing stuff, I think it inspired me some, but i thought of the original design of the 4 orbs in the corners way before I saw TAT.

If only TAT gave us some of their sweet stuff that they design.

That's a good idea for the start menu since it's familiar with Windows Mobile, but my plan for this interface is for it to completely replace the Windows Mobile interface, so you would never see the original Start Menu again.

I haven't thouroughly thought out the icon placement yet, I worked up these rough images just this morning in about 3 hours.

Thanks for the comment, I'll consider upper right!

Andrew
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Keland44:
the tat stuff looks pretty nice definately interesting in see how this comes along

ace maybe if you look into some of the code for pontui you might be able to implement this with some work i think pontui is something like html or xml or something like that
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ace10134:
I've also considered PointUI. Yet, I think the best way to make a perfected interface would be to write all of the code custom.

Thanks for writing, and yea, the PointUI 2 does have more customizability so I could look into that as an option.

Andrew
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] meccax5:
why would you do anything that looks like msn explorer?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ace10134:
That looks like msn explorer???

That picture that your talking about is the internet browser, which is visiting the site msn.com

Some of the icons used in the internet browser are from Internet Explorer 8, but most of them are custom created. The theme was all created by me, I haven't seen msn explorer for ages.

Anyways I use msn for my mail, so I chose that webpage cuz that's how i get to my mail.

Andrew
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] meccax5:
even those buttons on the corners look too early 2000's Windows. Not the icons but rather the color scheme in general. I dunno its just my opinion.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ace10134:
Yea I could agree with that, I made the icons in Word 2007, so I didn't expect anything spectacular.

When do the developers sign on? Or are they all busy making other stuff?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] thundershadow14:
I like the concept, and I'm very willing to try and make it a reality. Once I get a phone, lol! I'm getting paid next week, so hopefully if everything goes as planned I'll have a new toy to start developing on!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ace10134:
Sweet! lol, yea, having a phone would help :)

I've also have a little incoming call concept drawn up here if you haven't seen it yet.

I think that if we made this interface a reality, it could be up near the top with PointUI and SPB Mobile Shell!

Thanks for replying and I hope you get a sick phone!

Oh and what do you write your programs in? I'd like to learn some programming too so I could maybe help develop this interface.

So write back here sometime if you'd like to start designing this!

Thanks,

Andrew
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bstylz911:
download link? i wanna try=]
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] biosxjj:
beautiful!

mark.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] TurboX2:
lol. when i read the title i thought that somebody made a cab for an application that will work with orb.com with a nice interface.... which i believe we desprerately need

o well. good work anyways.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ace10134:
lol, it's a CONCEPT! I wish it was real, that's why I drew up those pics.

Show it to everyone you know, and then maybe a developer will see it and help me design it. I so badly wanna make this real!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dickenz:
Unfortunately dude I think it's far too lacking in practicality and interest to make it a reality. There is no possible way the 4 corners of the screen (the most remote parts of the screen) can be used to display such important info 24/7 IMHO. All the same good effort - it looks nice but just I don't think it can be expanded on enough to make it happen.

Maybe as a lock screen but not as a GUI.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] thundershadow14:
In the past I've used Flash, the .NET framework in VB and C#, as well as native coding in C and C/QT. You're definitely gonna wanna get Visual Studio 2005 or 2008, and....if you've never programmed before, a basic book on C. Since, if you're gonna develop such a resource intensive app, .NET or flash just won't cut it.

Good luck! :).