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[General Topics] F-Styla:
I used my Xperia now for 2 months and finally I got one of the famous cracks.

I sent it to Sony Ericsson and after they send it back, I will sell the Xperia on eBay and buy a Iphone.

The Xperia, maybe I should better say, Windows Mobile, was very disappointing. When I turned the device on for the first time, I was shocked how ugly the menu is. Changing things in the settings without stylus? Impossible. That sucks so much, I mean: WELCOME in the 21. century!! I don't want to use my stylus and press tiny buttons on my 500 EUR Xperia X1 when I want to change some of the most simple settings!! Not enough, I have never seen something so much confusing like the Windows Mobile interface. Even my old Nokia 3210 (my first mobilephone) did a better job in being fast and easy to use.

Then i installed itjes (he's is the best ^^) Touch It, with the new Manila Interface. First I was impressed. Compared to the normal Windows Mobile interface, this was a nice experiance. But still:

When I wachted movies the first seconds always bucking, forwarding mp3 music had 2 seconds deceleration and all crap like this.

Then a friend showed me his Iphone.

MAN!

You can't compare this fast, smooth, easy to use, lovely interface of this phone to the **** of windows mobile. Even TF3D has absolutly no chance against iphone OS. The experiance is amazing, something completly diffrent. I would right more but my english is simply to bad, it's hard to write down what I want so say.

The thing is:

Why should I keep a device, where I have to flash roms in WWE (yes, I would prefer german ROMS), install cabs, change registry till it works a bit well when I can have a iPhone, with a great multimedia performance (in my own language), a great brower, a nice looking interface, from a company, which listen to the costumer (bringing MMS and copy and paste in the next firmware).

I don't like the form of the iPhone, it's a pain to call with it. I love the look of the Xperia X1, I love it's keyboard. But till Mirosoft doesn't improve their OS (and i don't mean windows mobile 6.5, that's nearly the same **** like 6.1), all windows mobile devices won't have any chance against the iPhone.

I really hope that Windows Mobile 7 will be something that can compete with the iPhone OS. If that happen, I am going to sell my iphone and buy the Xperia X1 (or maybe then X2) again, but till that day, goodbye X1, goodbye windows mobile 6.1 and I hope I will never see it again.
[General Topics] zuadao:
couse i want the option of ****ing it all up if i want to??

i´m not paying for a divise when mac decides what i can or cant install.

i´m not paying for a device that wont let me send mms.

i´m not paying for a device that is not customizable to the last bit

the only thing mac made that is really good is the ipod

an mp3 player...

let us bet that google will end the iphone
[General Topics] zoomee:
apple can stick it where the sun don't shine as far as I'm concerned :)

I can't say I like the interface, its very limited - only the screen (capacitive) I suppose.

Love my Touch HD to bits and wouldn't change it for anything else currently available on the market.

Buying an iphone is like buying a mac (as others here have pointed out) - i.e. its limited. Building your own PC however is like buying a Touch HD (maybe not hardware wise but software wise - customise it to EXACTLY the way YOU want it)

Try one of Duttys ROM's and see how finger friendly the newer HTC devices have become, oh and forget that ugly WM6.1 interface - Manilla 3D rocks! :>

peace out :>
[General Topics] BobAndrews:
I need a hardware keyboard, so I will stick to X1.
[General Topics] adeltaY:
The iPhone will die soon, and either WM 6.5 or 7 will be he murderer.

It will be perhaps the bloodiest massacre of all time and WM will emerge without a scratch. ;)
[General Topics] zkush:
i think the orginal poster of this thread is working for apple and trying to sway us. what an idiot. the iphone is cool and all, but some of us like being able to do a lot of stuff with our phones and customize with a lot less restrictions than that of the iphone.
[General Topics] grossermanitu:
Hm iphone. I don tlike when somebody treats me like a baby and says that this is not good for me and I am not allowed to do this and this. Furthermore I always gets suspicious when somebody wants to sell me something with restrictions. There is mostly something wrong.

And at the moment I cannot see the Iphone interface anymore. To much copied and to many people have it. its nothing special anymore

I have daviddeucks v5 for my touch hd and I am happy.
[General Topics] mmmhhh86:
the iphone is a simple phone made for people whoi just want to call, text, play a game and listen to some music.

The windows mobile phone on the other hand is a beast. I speak because I have used so many phones over the years and probably tried almost every phone ever made. I always find myself running back to a winmo phone. The reason: It is truly a pocket PC. I mean that in every aspect. I download torrents on my phone when I'm not home (700mb torrents), STREAM (not just play like the iphone) music while downloading items and chatting at the same time, get turn by turn navigation, browse the internet with flash support........... The list goes on and on. The iphone cant even multitask.. The excuse was battery drain.. sure OK.. as if a game or browsing the internet doesn't drain the battery or people dont know how to use a charger.. But the great news is that they are finally getting copy and paste!!!!!!!!! Oh My God!! People should be running around selling their phones and buying iphones.. They can finally copy and paste after 2 years of release! It all goes well.. Maybe after 4 or 5 years the iphone will be able to download files from safari and 10 years later.. download a file from safari and stream music at the same time.. not for too long though because you will drain your battery..

I say this because I got an iphone when I renewed my contract with my provider and used it for less than 2 days, put it back in its box, slid my sim card back into my diamond and continued enjoying my winmo phone.

Even though the interface of the iphone is flashier than that of winmo, but thats all you get. I mean it. You open a menu.. thats it! no further menus. Just turn things on and off. No matter how hard apple works on their interface, they aren't getting anywhere near winmo's functionality. It took them 2 years to implement copy/paste. I would count on a company like that to make my phone.. Except ofcourse if I only use my phone for basics, then I would say the iphone is a nice phone.

This is no race. The two phones are different. If apple is trying to take ovver winmo's market, its not going to happen. Even if some people are attracted to the iphone and decide to let go of their winmo phone, I am sure it wont be long before they get back to their senses.

I do hope microsoft works on their interface and makes some improvements because some things look the same as they did on my cassiopea 8 years ago.. But hey we can always customize every single thing thanks to the great developers and chefs around here.
[General Topics] redbandana:
If the iPhone had a hardware keyboard

Do you think more windows mobile and blackberry users would make the switch?
[General Topics] imperiallight:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=504049

Another current thread comparing iphone with HD
[General Topics] malulloyd:
Sorry to say this, but I switched out a year ago

I've never looked back since it. The interface and usability is far superior. Boo MS
[General Topics] jim256:
I couldn't agree with this more.

The new iPhone will beat...every single other device. It is the HD (large sharp screen, 2 cameras, one 5mp, etc..) on the brand spanking new iPhone OS, supposedly w/ their very own "system on a chip" dealyo.

The only thing that MIGHT compete would be an awesome HD like android device but...that will take time.

I for one CANNOT WAIT to jump ship to the newest iPhone in June. Looks like they really listened. It will truly be an amazing device. Video editing software onboard? Looks like they really learned from Android as competition and opened up the OS to devs a little more, as well as improved the hardware to be more like the HD. That coupled w/ the new MMS support, better speed, small other fixes / enhancements etc etc....the new iPhone is really REALLY gonna kick butt and I so so cannot wait :)
[General Topics] addicus:
Any links to this great phone you speak of?
[General Topics] jim256:
Umm...well you can just google it, that's what I did. I do know that planet-iphones did a little piece on it a while back if that helps. Really is gonna be sick tho...I will have NO hesitation whatsoever tossin even my HD if it can also just have as large and sharp a screen and the camera is autofocus
[General Topics] blacriderv:
Apple has the thing to always innovates their product. I heard that the iPhone 3 will have a HD output connector, which will transfer audio and video, the processor will be faster, a 800Mhz ARM Cortex (as if the actual iPhone was not fast enough :p).

I don't like the iPhone, I love my HTC Diamond. But to be true, HTC does not really innovate, they just take old hardwares to make new. Look at the futur new HTC's, almost got 528Mhz processor, few got 600Mhz (WOW this is THE improvement !), whereas Snapdragon is out (1Ghz processor). Even Toshiba, which nobody knew they made smartphone made one with the Snapdragon.

If HTC does not make better devices, I mean powerful devices with GOOD drivers and if Microsoft does not greatly improve and innovate its OS, it will be the end for both of them ! :mad:
[General Topics] cktlcmd:
I might consider it, if it actually supports real VGA which really makes use of the screen resolution and only if it is in CLAMSHELL. I am not a fan of touching screens. If there is a physical keyboard, I expect to do things with the keyboard and not touch the screen.

This is why I am staying away from HTC at this moment when considering buying a new phone. You just don't get the value you paid for. I am routing for Toshiba, Asus, Sharp, etc... to use more powerful processors, may be they can enlighten HTC.
[General Topics] blacriderv:
Yeah, Toshiba and Asus seem to be a nice deal, even if I don't really like the design of the Asus's products.

But the thing which is great with HTC's products is XDA DEV ^^ There will never be such a community as XDA ! That's why I'm still with my HTC Diamond, waiting for an explosive device from HTC, and if it does not come, then maybe I'll have to look elsewhere...
[General Topics] imperiallight:
addicus,

All your problems can be solved with software (and a small hardware plug-in for BT headset until OS 3.0).

It amuses me to no extent when people talk about being able to 'customise' their WM phone as the only real advantage over the iphone on these forums and then say they should not have to jailbreak an iphone and install 3rd party apps to solve any criticisms they have. Take your head out of the sand and realise that it cuts both ways.

cktlcmd,

Its true its not a case of the iphone beating them all, it already has, their LACK of different handsets is proof of this for me. It came on the scene for the last 2 years with its zippy 624Mhz CPU already trouncing many HTC handsets to this day and reports suggest the new iphone will come with a 1.2GHZ CPU as the innovative apple try to blur the line between MID and UMPC (although I agree it wont really be very good at this if it remains locked down without mutlitasking capabilities).

XDA Dev, Win Mo software and certain niche hansets (such a the Athena) remain an advantage of the Winmo crew but this advantage is rapidly becoming irrelavent as the iphone community grows in size and the iphone capabilities get unlocked.
[General Topics] jim256:
Very nicely said, very nicely put. Don't have an iPhone myself, and I do find it

really

hard to believe that you can customize them QUITE as much as a WM device...but I still agree. I am SO psyched for the new iPhone. They did a really great job w/ the 3G, but still had a LOT of...fundamental flaws. But it looks like they are solving them all w/ OS 3! That coupled w/ the WAY better hardware, give it a month after it's been released for an update or two and..phew! Altho probably won't be jailbroken then huh? :(

It's obvious they learned a lot from Android, I just really really hope that they learn a lot from WebOS as well. All the facebook, twitter, gmail, outlook, etc etc integration would REALLY be VERY VERY nice.

The truth is that there is NO WAY ANY WM device will even come close when the new iPhone comes out. Right now they are definitely comparable. HD compared to iPhone 3G. Real close tie in my mind w/ both beating each other in certain areas. But that took MS and HTC a year to do. WM 7 would have to have been out for 3 months on awesome hardware WITH ALL GOOD DRIVERS to compete with what the new iPhone will be. But when the new one comes out...there will be no choice to make, and it will truly be great / perfect! I just REALLY REALLY hope that they get the system on a chip thing worked out in time. Tegra like speeds, capabilities, battery life, and such would be AMAZING.
[General Topics] 2revup:
Personally I see the IPhone a far more user friendly smart phone from the non technically user, someone that wants a phone thats fun and easy to use, email functionality but thats where the buck stops. WM I find is more so for a tech or power user someone that wants complete control over there phone.

WM is an awesome platform (sure I have complaints) which allows us to change the interface to what ever we can think off, we can do it, any sort of function we cant do out of the box, you can be sure there is a third party app for it... while the Iphone has a stack of useless apps and games, this also confirms is fun but nothing more.

WM will always will for the power user, but I do hope MS pull there finger out for WM7, it really does need to be something special.

Just my 2 cents.
[General Topics] addicus:
I understand software cures those ills. My point is more toward the overhyping of the device by the enthuised than a realistic view of the device. It's very good. It has a lot of great features but it has a lot of limitations. All devices do, so it's really annoying to have people come up with their IPhone and act like it is the first and best ppc ever when it does have glaring weaknesses that are being properly addressed 3 years after launch. Why should Apple get a pass for their faux pas when MS wouldn't?

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There is a fundamental difference between unlocking a WinMo device and jailbreaking an IPhone. We unlock WinMo phones to get rid of the bloatware and hinderences the CARRIERS implement on the devices. There is no lawsuit from the MS as long as we don't violate the carriers rights and wants. The IPhone is jailbroke to escape the oppressive hand of the operating system provider and lawsuits aren't just threatened but followed through.

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The 'new' Iphone sounds great, but I haven't seen it. I have seen what NVidia has done with WinMo and the Tegra processor. Nothing you've told me about the new IPhone is an improvement over that.

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Also WinMo can do what the Iphone can and it's up to the manufacturers and carriers to develop more mediacentric WinMo devices. HTC did it in a year with the Touch HD. Asus and others are doing it now with great devices. HTC has an edge because of XDA-Devs.
[General Topics] F-Styla:
Guys about which new iPhone you're talking about? ^^

Don't tell me they will defenetly release a new one, because then I won't buy the 3G and wait for the new one.
[General Topics] paledo:
WinMo and Ipone OS can never be really compared with each other. Apple has the 'luxury' of just two devices the OS has to deal with. Hardware is pretty simular too. All the add-ons can be tested before released through Appstore so conflicts in software can be ruled out.

WinMo has to have much more flexibility. It has to supprt 240x320 to 480x800 for example. It has to support different chipset en hardware accelarators. It has to be open for operators and manufacturers which want to add their own specific softwarepackages or screens.

WinMo should be compared to Android.

I think the best way to compare de development of Microsoft's software for mobile devices with Apple is to compare the Zune(HD) with de Ipod Touch.

Also Marketplace in WinMo6.5 will give a boost to independant software development. Marketplace will give small developers a platform is earn money with applications en games. For example, the game Crayon Physics, could easily played on in WinMo device, but het developers has given priority to developing the game for the Iphone and I can't blame him. The changes for earning money with a Iphone game is much bigger then in the WinMo platform.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] sugui:
i recently upgraded my hima to 6.5, after that i downloaded and installed S2V, but when i tried viewing my pictures using S2V it says no pictures found, i tried installing it again in different hima 6.1 but still the same, my picture format are jpeg and before it was working, i think i messed up something, can somebody help me out,.. thanks..
[G1 Android Development] xmoo:
Full drop was not posible.

So made a copy of the System folder.

If you like the work of me & my source, don't forget to help us buying a beer.

Get it while it's hot!

Version:

20090109 Sapphire Asia WWE

DROP OF THE SYSTEM FOLDER:

http://www.xmoo.org/android/htc_sapphire_system.rar
[G1 Android Development] MontAlbert:
nice- can't wait to see what JF can do with this!! i noticed there is a built in pdf reader too...
[G1 Android Development] maruutah:
0_o

ooooo...I'm excited for this, what the outcome will be.

^-^
[G1 Android Development] sethp:
PDF Reader?

Interesting, there seems to be a PDF reader in there, and an FTP client. Did you install these on your phone, or were they supplied with it? It'd certainly be nice to have pdf capability in the new cupcake update for the G1...
[G1 Android Development] Gimpeh:
We may get a taste of cupcake early depending on what JF does with this.
[G1 Android Development] otto888:
NOTE:I'm tired as crap cause I stayed up for 48 hours but I'm so happy cause of this. Excuse my errors.

I'm gonna be the risk taker here and try to apply this on a G1. I should be able to use my backup from nandroid if anything happens. So all this is the system "partion" as fastboot seems to describe it as? So basicly I have to mount system via recovery and replace it?
[G1 Android Development] Gimpeh:
Keep us updated on how this goes. I'm very interested to see the results.
[G1 Android Development] otto888:
tried to use mv...cant boot into normal anymore...checking if system is changed any

EDIT: Pic shows system... :(
[G1 Android Development] xmoo:
This was all in it.
[G1 Android Development] otto888:
I may get this to work by making it into an img file(nandroid backup file)...How would I do that....on Windows 7?

EDIT: IDEA! Install the latest cupcake build from andblogs.net and try installing all of this stuff manulaly
[G1 Android Development] ultra spikey:
Could you just copy say, the PDFReader.apk onto your sdcard and install it from there? Or drop the apk into an update.zip?
[G1 Android Development] uherrera:
I tried to install the PDFreader but it fails due to missing libraries. How do I load this firmware into the emulator so I can mess arround with that one instead?
[G1 Android Development] otto888:
Crazy idea. Take the latest JFrc33 update and overwrite any file in the update with the magic system files...should atleast boot
[G1 Android Development] noctem:
Lots of HTC stuff

Yeah, to be more precise it's missing all the HTC framework stuff. Doubt you would get away with just adding that stuff to your install:
[G1 Android Development] dwang:
Somebody should change the subject to HTC Magic System Folder.

Then more people would go to the thread.
[G1 Android Development] sethp:
pdf reader, etc

hmm, i tried copying the frameworks into system/framework and then installing the .apk file, but that didn't seem to work. Do additional frameworks need to be registered, i wonder?
[G1 Android Development] xmoo:
Changed to HTC Sapphire/Vodafone Magic

Cause officialy it's from the HTC not Vodafone.
[G1 Android Development] otto888:
Tried my update idea...boots to recovery...atleast it boots now. :P
[G1 Android Development] noctem:
HTC Framework stuff

Yup. See the bottom of /system/etc/permissions.xml

Thing is, I wouldn't be surprised if the android build this thing expects is newer than your current one, with assorted changes in the API, and if the HTC framework stuff depends on more HTC stuff lower down the stack (I notice there's a "libhtc_ril.so" for instance in /system/lib - not looked into what exactly it contains tho).

As a result it'll probably take a bit more than just dropping things into your current installation. That said, I'd love to play around a bit more if I weren't at work :(
[G1 Android Development] funbacon:
Stop update your phone using these file. These file is made for Magic, not Dream. It has driver file for Magic, not Dream. Wait for JF and stop doing stupid things.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] crlowryjr:
for starters ... want to apologize if people feel I should have posted in an existing thread rather than starting a new one. I have searched quite a bit and couldn't find an answer to the several questions I have. That said ...

I live in Bangalore India, and recently purchased a TP. It's an Idea Cellular branded model which in all the advertising is listed as a 7276 (though Device Info says 7272). The phone does not have a front facing camera, though it does have the Q7201a chip - so it should be capable of 3G.

The problems I'm facing are quite a few, and I'm wondering if it's Radio, ROM, carrier, etc.. and I'm hoping the members of this forum also in India can help point me in the right direction.

BTW - my phone is unlocked and I'm using Airtel in Bangalore.

a. battery life is aweful

b. wifi has poor signal strength and resets every couple minutes

c. GPS won't fix on a satellite

What ROM / Radio combination have you found to work well?

Have you gotten GPS to work.

If using Airtel have you gotten NOP or Airtel Live to work?

Do you use wifi successfully?

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A.

With the stock ROM the phone would run through it's battery in about 1/2 a day. Sitting on my nightstand with BT, WIFI, GPRS all turned off and not getting a single SMS or call, it would deplete by close to 20%.

I've tried a few other ROMs and have had various results ... the new HTC ROM is ok, but still BAD. Elite RC3 seemed better. AtomAng's newest and Energy ROM 2.0 31709 both chew through the battery pretty bad. When making/receiving a call or SMS the battery will deplete by 2~4%, but will otherwise be OK if sitting idle.

I'm suspecting it could be carrier related as I switch between Edge and GPRS constantly.

B.

Sitting within a meter of my Linksys Dual N router, I get 1mbps transmit and it resets every minute or so. If I walk upstairs, I can pretty much kiss my signal goodbye. With my VOX I could hold the signal no problem. This has been consistent with every ROM I have used.

C.

I have tried every hack and setting I can find on this one...

Using any tool I can see in the upwards of 16 satellites, but will never lock onto even a single one. I left my phone plugged in and sitting on the window ledge last night ... 3 hours and still not a single lock.

This is the 2nd handset from Idea as well ... the 1st one had audio problems and was replaced with a completely new handset.

Thanks for any help...I really want to like this phone, but right now I can't see me keeping it much longer.

---Rob