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[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ausi:
Hi Avimak

Used the new Hebrew Support cab in my HD after installing Dutty's new V3.3 ROM and all seems to be working OK, if i understand correctly this cab also includes the Hebrew wince.nls file?

The only thing that happened after i installed the cab & Regional settings is that i lost the Speed Dial# 1 slot for Voice Mail & i know it was there before i installed the cab, and yes i already tried 10 different ways to get this running again but with no avail,.........have you ever heard of such a problem??.........although it's no big deal.

Thank you & the Dude for all the continued work & support.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
Yes, the new file have the wince.nls, and NO - I never had this problem, and i'm using the same ROM as you (and I did a HR couple of time - always got the 1st key dialing my Voice Mail).
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ausi:
Sprite Back-up

Hi Avimak

Do you have any experience with Sprite Backup, i used it once to install a Backup and i found that my Hebrew Support was not working anymore, everything else was OK but in the end i had to do a HR to get the Hebrew working again.

Would appreciate your thoughts on this issue.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
Are all the other settings and sys files you change and modify was ok after the import from backup?

I'm using spb backup and never had problems like this.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ausi:
1. Yes, everything else was OK

2. I also used to use SPB Back-up with my Trinty but for some reason when i got my HD with the original ROM it didn't work for me ; .....i think you also installed Dutty V3.3 and you're saying SPB worked so i must try again.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
There was an issue with some version of spb backup when the HD came out, after that they updated and everything works smooth for me with every ROM I flashed...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ausi:
OK, i saw the Posts which say they resolved the HD issues, installed it already & seems to be working OK, thanks for brining this to my attention.

Tell me this, if i update the ROM (lets say Dutty 3.3 to 3.4) and install my 3.3 Spb backup exe on the 3.4 version do you think it will work including the Hebrew Support??
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
Yes, i'm sure it'll install the Hebrew support, what i'm afraid from is that it'll copy other dutty 3.3's files too.

No one really understand what they mean when they saying "system data"..

The goal of this app is to create backup that you can install on your existing ROM.. not on others ;)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ausi:
The new spb & Sprite are supposed to be able to identify a new ROM upgrade, so i may try the SPB when when 3.4 comes out & see what happens to the Hebrew.

Thanks for your inputs.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Roadrunner100:
insufficient privileges

Hi,

Have tried to install Hebrew support only, on the 1.56 stock ROM, per instructions on top of the thread.

once installing 1-hdhebkbd...cab I get a message that the installation was unsuccessful due to insufficient privileges.

I've gone through the entire thread and found nothing similar on this issue.

Prior to installation I did perform a HR.

Any wisdom on the subject will be appreciated.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] KukurikU:
look and try this:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3693789&postcount=196

this is the "old" files that worked for me in every ROM yr stock ROM included.

the "insufficient "privileges" error message imo is because the new version has the wince (local settings) included. try my method and copy first the wince file in the windows directory with resco explorer and install the cab file afterward. wince file is here:

http://rapidshare.com/files/210850249/wince.nls

good luck!:)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Roadrunner100:
Thanks Kukuriku,

Yup, that did the trick, one small adjustment though, rather than install Resco I zipped Wince.nls then unzipped it into the windows folder. For some reason Winzip has killer privileges!

The big disappointment is that I got really horny for the original HTC keyboard included in the "new" package. Any way around that?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
Which new keyboard? the one in the official HD ROM or the new keyboard that came with the Topaz?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Roadrunner100:
As stated on the first post:- "Hebrew keyboard (the Hebrew layout for the original HTC keyboard made by Alex)". Actually, at the moment I don't have a Heb Kbrd at all!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
It's not included there, you can find it in the original Hebrew Polaris project page.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Roadrunner100:
Thanks Avi,

I scratched the "old" files solution proposed by Kukuriku and started over.

The solution was much simpler than I thought. To overcome the insufficient privileges situation, I placed the 1st cab file in the Windows\startup directory, then SR. It installed without problems. The second cab file then installed without further issues. I now have the "original HTC Heb" keyboard, and the rest is ice.

Thank you all for your efforts, much appreciated.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
There is no original HTC Heb keyboard, this is a pure work of Alex2003 ;)

You welcome man.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Roadrunner100:
Alex is the Iceman then. Yeah, I understood that it's not by HTC. I simply prefer integration to third party. Third party should only be reserved for MFF or FMM situations... :rolleyes:
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
well, you can always extends the official ROM, throw out the original keyboard and replace it with the FingerKeyboard2.1 OEM (it's really easy to build).
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Roadrunner100:
Ahh, but that's precisely what I was trying to avoid.

Question - Is there an off-topic Heb speakers thread on this forum?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
Not really..

this is the place we all practice our English dude :D

and as you can see, we're not doing a good job ;)

If you want a great Hebrew ppc forum - try the pocketpcfreak.com community.

I'm there under the same nickname..
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] cytokine:
I am dumb or is there a good reason hebrew appears inverted with dutty`s 3.3 rom?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
let's check it:

1) if the Hebrew inverted anywhere - you doing something wrong because I used this file on your ROM and it was OK.

2) if the Hebrew is inverted in the Opera Browser - you're not dumb.. you just didn't search the thread... ;)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Pilotxxx:
Hii,

I Just replace to Dutty 3.3 ROM.

The hebrew works great. but when i install the keyboard it make a big problem.

al HTC keyboards not showing at all. something like stuck...

and i think instad of replacing the italian keyboard it open a new lang that called "unknow" (if i remember correct).

Fingerkeyb2.1 works ok but i want to use the HTC keyboard.

Any one can help me with this?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
The Dutty 3.3 ROM using the 2nd version of the HTC EZinput keyboard - the Hebrew keyboard file in this thread is for the original HTC ezinput 1st version.

There's no chance it'll work on the original one ;)

you can always translate the 2nd version ;)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Pilotxxx:
And how can i do that? :) i will be happy to translate it.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] tapdov:
I installed the new hebrew support only file on my iPAQ 210. Opera works RTL, but PIE, Pocket Word, and Resco Explorer all are LTR. I also can't find the Hebrew option in my regional settings panel. (I suppose those problems are related?)

I tried manually copying wince.nls using resco explorer, and it showed the new date after a soft reset, but there was still no Hebrew option in Regional Settings.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ageva:
Hi,

Yesterday I installed the "New Heb support only" on Miri 6.5 v12 and after restart the THD, there is no respond from the Today screen.

Did someone else check it on Miri 6.5 v12 and can confirm the issue?

Thanks!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] biker200:
avimak hi.

im trying to install your topaz trns, for dutty 3.3, with no succes.

whats the updated file? is that the first one in the thraed, cose this one dosent work for me.

the second one after few posts, works fine but it say, some ids .

can you post here another link to the one updated and working pls.

p.s. i saw your answer, to the guy about 3 version of manila, thats why i couldnt understand, why this one dosent work, trying to extract them didnt help. (not with winrar)

tnx
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
This is the Hebrew support file:

http://hidemyass.com/files/TGgPs

pass: the_dude

you need to install it on a clean system, which means no previous Hebrew support files etc...

this is the Heb translation for the TF3D used by Dutty 3.3 (final version):

http://hidemyass.com/files/knLoM

no pass...

There is no OS or full Hebrew support for the programs/OEMs etc.. I didn't translate any because a lack of requires...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Roadrunner100:
Impressions

A few updates on my installation.

This has to be the best Hebrew I've had on a WM device to-date. Memory usage, and performance loss are negligible compared with the commercially available products. So, all in all this will be the first time that I will have Hebrew enabled.

In WordMobile, I've noticed that Heb text is entered in "push mode", while the cursor stays put, which means that if you want to insert a word in a written sentence, it's a game of trial and error.

Other than this, all seems to be working, and most importantly, looks and feels native (including the keyboard by Alex2003).

My sincere thanks to all those involved in producing this fine solution.

Edit: (The Opera solution as described in post #17 hasn't worked well for me, while Heb IS displayed correctly, it's very slow when compared to Build 16070 that is stock on my device).
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] OSM:
using this version of hebrew with HTC Touch Diamond2 (Topaz)

Hi all,

I tried this Hebrew version with HTC topaz, and it is not working (hebrew is left to right).

Is there anyway to install it in HTC Topaz?

If not, is there any other free hebrew support for the Topaz?

ROM Version: 1.39.408.1 (47382) WWE

Rom Date: 04/07/2009

Thanks alot
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] biker200:
Heb translation for the TF3D used by Dutty 3.3

this one dosent work for me on clean rom.

only the other one, some size like 334 kb not the 273 kb.

not so good, will wait for solution, tnx for your work anyway.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
Well I made this cab really quick and probably it's not made well..

To do:

extract the file with a professional cab builder/extractor program (search this forum - there's a lot of free programs) - don't do it with WinRAR because it change the names of the files.

then override the original files in the \windows directory - it should work without any problem.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Pilotxxx:
Avimak,

How can i translate the keboard for Dutty 3.3?

what tool i will need for this?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
Well, there is a special thread about developing this keyboard..

but generally I think you'll need to build a Hebrew files just like the English one, you can open the English files to learn the construct of the layout.

and of course you'll need to build it very smart because there is no perfect room for our so wide layout...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] loadstone007:
Which file is the best for Touch diamond2, but I only want Hebrew support (write in Hebrew, browse heb websites etc)?

Thanks, and you did a heck of a fantastic work here!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Pilotxxx:
O.K, I will try to find where to start...

Thank you.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] loadstone007:
I tried the heb support only cab, and while I see hebrew characters in my contacts instead of squares, the letters are backwards, and I get an error message asking me to send/not send. And it keeps appearing, so I removed it from my device.

Help!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Pilotxxx:
What is the ROM that you are using?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] loadstone007:
The original one that came with the device. Haven't modified a single thing.

UPDATE: apparently I installed the file incorrectly. Now I get no error message, but the hebrew is all reversed/backwards. However I can see hebrew web sites alright... just in the various htc screens it's all messed up.

I selected hebrew in regional options... and tried resetting my device. any advise?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
Did you install the new Hebrew support file?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] loadstone007:
Yes, the first file at the first post (requiring a password).

UPDATE: I also tried the polaris hebrew, I get the same result. Reversed hebrew in the device (contacts, SMS, month name etc), but it works fine when using Opera to go to hebrew web sites.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
I'm sorry, I don't have your device... the new file works for me with every WM 6.1/6.5 ROM I ever tried, and it works on different devices as well...

I'm sure you'll have solution in the future, you just need to wait for Diamond 2 Official Arabic ROM - then we'll make a new Hebrew solution for you device too.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] loadstone007:
So i'll have to manage. Looking forward to the hebrew file. Thanks!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Pilotxxx:
Can you help me with a link to this thread? or some tool that i can work with?

I just can't find it all day...

tnx!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] OSM:
Thanks avimak.

BTW, will the arabic be supported as well?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
Well, all the "Arabizers" using the same HTC Arabic OEM (madded by 3rd part company) and only change some things like font and other stuff, if you want I'm sure it'll be possible to keep the Arabic and only add Hebrew
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] PapaDocta:
here is an extra light Arabizer with hebrew support which has better support for manila 2.x.. try and give your feedback

http://www.ziddu.com/download/4837043/heb_NoKB.rar.html
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
Hi man, how's this file support the 2.x manila better than the new file we published?

it looks for me exactly the same (your file adding some other fonts in the registry font link but those fonts doesn't require by the new manila or by any other OS needs). furthermore, the new manilas (D2 and TP2) already works perfect with Hebrew for a long time.

I'm sorry, I don't understand, can you elaborate about this file? :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] PapaDocta:
these files are extracted from the new Arabic rom of Diamond 2 and i used to get some issues when i try to add new contact in mainla like this http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3776778&postcount=1462 ... and it feels way lighter than earlier mobidiv localization

check files sizes.. they are different ..
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
Oh, I see.

So do you had this problem like kukuriku and now you don't?

oh, and another thing - if you're writing Arabic in "notes" - are it's RTL because we didn't fixed this problem yet, all notes are LTR even if the first letter is Hebrew.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] PapaDocta:
yes i used to have that problem and now i don't with this new cab... also i use Notepad by Shamasis which supports RTL (you can download it at shamasis.net) as the default notes still won't support RTL

you can extract the files from the cab i made and replace the ones in the cab posted in the first page.. so you get the registry entries which better fits your needs :D.. i didn't change that much in the registry entries in the cab i posted..

and the reason i posted it here because kukuriku (which i made this cab for) said they didn't work and wanted to get the opinion of the rest of you about it :D
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
I'm happy that you posted it here, i'll try it latter - thanks again!

Just a question, If you installing the official Arabic ROM (not a cooked one) - are the official notes are RTL or it's still LTR?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] PapaDocta:
to be honest with you i haven't tried that.. been always in cooked rom :D as i like to have the Arabic support as light as possible.. but from past experience the notes never worked well always LTR..
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
Yeah, that what I was afraid from.. :\
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] PapaDocta:
damn microsoft ... they should add native support in WM for us just like the rest of the world!! WM 6.5 is out and still no support and i believe when 7 is out too they won't even bother to do that!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
I'm afraid you right. there is no excuse why they ignoring more then 200 millions RTL writers...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] PapaDocta:
i think we should petition to Microsoft in order to be heard.. :(
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] KukurikU:
glad to see the "peace process" and the israelian-arab cooperation advancing!!:D:D:D

i love this forum!!!

@avimak

i've sent you the same file from tthe same "source":D. didn't u get it or hadn't time to check it out?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] PapaDocta:
somebody has to do it :P
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
Just take a number and join the line, they're not care about us because we all swallowing everything they beat us with...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
I seen you PM and answered you back - you didn't get it?

and for the peace process, never gives the politicians to do it, it's only the people who can change something :rolleyes:
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] KukurikU:
nope....i did some cleaning in my inbox:confused: i always start and delete the LAST 2-3 pages. ok, never mind, we start all over:D
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
It's doesn't matter, because me and PapaDocta discussed it here on public :P

It looks like it worth a try, so If anyone will HR soon, he should try it and tell us if there any different (specially in the ASCII fields) :cool:
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] KukurikU:
i HR and flashed a new ROM. the cab from PapaDocta works but LTR. the writing start from left... :o

i did not check the ASCII fields.:o maybe tomorrow i'll HR again;)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Roadrunner100:
Actually Guyz, on his last visit here at a conference I attended, Steve Balmer promised inherent RTL to be implemented in WM7. He repeated this later at a private conversation. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

@ PapaDocta

"somebody has to do it :P"

Jah is one, wa kulu min Allah...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9g-q1iri2M&feature=related
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] PapaDocta:
didn't really get it.. all in Hebrew!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] loadstone007:
Thank you SO MUCH PapaDocta, I now have Hebrew on my Diamond2! :P

Now the device supports hebrew great (installed Finger Keyboard for the keyboard support), but there are only two problems:

1. In the SMS screen hebrew is not aligned to the right, but to the left of the screen. Can you fix it?

2. Hebrew is displayed incorrectly in Opera and IE - it's reversed. I tried installing the new Opera beta (beta2, with gears support), it doesn't help - still reversed hebrew. Any ideas what to do?

Thanks for the help.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] OSM:
Hi PapaDocta,

In the registry settings in the cab file, I see INCSP20.exe under

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Init

Lanch900 = incsp20.exe

However the incsp20.exe file is not found in the cab file.

Should the diamond2 already have this file?

Thanks
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Benedetto1702:
thank u, i'll stick to the rules
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Benedetto1702:
Eyron hebrew files

Hi, i have HTC HD with eyron hebrew support, i bought it from newpan, i managed to locate the eyron.cab that have the license and the mui.cab that install the hebrew. the files installed successfuly with dutty roms, and all other roms that i did flashed, i could upload the files if it can help
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
there is a very clear rules about warez in this site.. wares is not allowed!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] PapaDocta:
that file is not needed and i forgot to delete it from the registry :D
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
Nothing personal ;)

have a great day!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] volk13:
IDS_PHONE after installing hebrew support

Searched for solution, but didn't find one :(

I've installed latest "Hebrew support only" on HTC Diamond (udK Syrius Topaz R7 21042 Win 6.1 ROM).

After reboot, got IDS_PHONE (IDS_* instead of all strings and commands) all over manila.

Looks like there is "resource-like" problem.

Would really appreciate your help, guys...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] loadstone007:
You should start a new thread for the hebrew support you are offering.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Iceberger:
On Dutty’s ROMs when i use this version, Everything is LTR, Opera on the other hand is RTL

The Duds version is exactly the opposite, everything is RTL, but opera shows Hebrew websites LTR.

Is there a way to make them both RTL?

Post 17 doesn’t work for me…

Thanks,
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
Why should he? this is a thread about Hebrew support.

it's not my thread, it's the_dude thread and I'm sure it's OK by him (if he's still following :p) if papa will post here another solution.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
No way, you installed the old file. install the "new hebrew support" and you shouldn't have this problem as this solution doesn't touch Manila at all.

If you have Manila v2 (the new manila) you can translate it by the tutorial I gave here 10 times.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
this is the Opera fault - you should install proper version for your device because normally most of the opera builds are unable to show Hebrew correctly - search this thread for info about normal Hebrew in opera.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Iceberger:
My version of Opera came along with the (Dutty) rom.

As far as i know this version - 9.5 16643, can deal with bidi languages.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
I know about 15529 and 2639 (I think).

2639 it's the best because it's the "official release" of opera in the first HD ROM and it's better than any other build I tried.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] loadstone007:
Because for Diamond2 users the Hebrew in the first post is irrelevant. And to get to his Hebrew would take ages... perhaps posting it in the first post would help for others. Just a suggestion...

Iceberger:

I'm with you, I have the same problem. Try installing the Opera beta2, it is said that it solves this issue. For me (a Diamond2 user as well) it didn't work because after installation the beta2 version of Opera did not open (nothing happens when you try to run it).

Please let me know if you've found a solution.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
I'll ask the_dude to add this solution to his first page, but as much I understood, it's doesn't work for every D2 users.. just see above me!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] loadstone007:
You mean with the Opera mirrored hebrew? I have this too. The hebrew works only for writing and reading in the device, only browsing hebrew sites doesn't work. Opera should be releasing version 9.7 soon, as I understand. Perhaps it will solve this problem...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
I just want to understand once and for all:

If you installing the "new Hebrew support" file on an original clean ROM (after HR) and installing Opera build 2639 - The Hebrew in Opera is mirrored?

can you try it?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] loadstone007:
If I install the "new hebrew support", located at the first post, the hebrew in the device is mirrored - meaning SMS messages, e-mails, contact names etc. However, the hebrew in Opera (ynet etc) is just fine.

With the hebrew posted later, heb_noKB.cab I believe, the hebrew in the device is just fine, but in Opera it's mirrored.

I haven't tried build 2639, but I heard it should work, but only with the second hebrew. BTW, where can I get this build?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] avimak:
Oh, so now it's all clear...

1) The solution we posted here is from the HD Arabic ROM, and probably this is wont work on the new firmware that come with the D2

2) The heb_noKB.cab is from the D2 Arabic ROM, so that's the reason it works for you.

3) the Opera thing shouldn't be connected to the Hebrew solution, so I recommended you to get this version and Enjoy it :)

4) you can download it over the net, and even search this forum, I know there is a thread about Opera versions and stuff ;)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] loadstone007:
Cool, thanks :)