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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] WatermelonSlim:
Looks retty nice. Similar to SPB Mobile Shell:

http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/

Looks to be a little cheaper than Mobile Shell.
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] faithnolonger:
I really don't get what the fuss is about this theme, ok so credit should be given where it's due I'm not arguing, but surely all that's required in this instance is "here's my theme - parts are borrowed from here and here, what do you think?" is sufficient.

It's ridiculous that we even feel the need to debate this, someone went out and built a theme they liked, and decided they would share it with the rest of us, something they did not need to do! Instead of saying thanks, we've shut down a thread because it wasn't precise enough about where it's components were found!

Regarding this theme, i love it, i think it almost perfectly combines the best parts of other themes and apart from the splash screen which i rarely see, makes my phone look great. I can't ask the developer to improve the theme now though thanks to a debate about a couple of icons! fantastic!
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] tootall4la:
thanks faith..

it is clearly ridiculous..but i cant do anything..

HYBRID has in no way stop at all...this is just a set back..

i want my thread back....my original thread..

i am not going to make a new 1 cuz there no neeed..

to everybody that has MY HYBID THEME...or not

please post ur comments and give ur opinion about this whole situation...

and tell the admin/moderators u want my thread re opened....

please help me..

thats all i ask in return...

VIVA LA RESISTANCE!!!!!!!!!! hahah lol
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] TruTechGeek:
i agree...the thread should be re opened because there is nothing wrong with his theme or how it was created. if you close his then you should close alot others because i know of 3 themes that share the EXACT same clock as the hybrid theme and a few icons and i dont see any reference to whee there clock and icons came from on there thread. everyone is not gonna have a completely different theme, clock, and set of icons. so IMO as long as he acknowledges that he made his theme from a combination of others i feel it is sufficient because whose to sat who FIRST created the black transparant clock that 3THEMES share and icons. as long as he is not saying he created the whole theme from scratch and taking all the cedit then whats the problem? nobody is payin for these themes so its not like he's getting anything from it besides happy hackers who love his work!
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] jdwme:
If you are referring to the black carbon fiber clock, the actual clock was posted by brandenk in a thread where he gave permission for anyone to use it.
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] TruTechGeek:
Ok, but there are still a number of themes that share some the same icons and dont give credit to one another.
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] agentaaron:
I do feel that shutting the thread down is the wrong decision...if that is the case, then I want the "Post ONLY your G1 Wallpapers here!" threat shut down...I know for a fact, that there is a Guinness wallpaper on there that I created and uploaded to g1wallz.com that is posted under someone elses name and no credit is given to me. I never really b!tched about it because I dont really care (I posted it on the www afterall, if it was that important to me I would have just kept it to myself)...but if we are going to get picky about giving recognition and asking for permissions then...
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] jdwme:
Some examples may be helpful, some of us have gotten icons from each other and some from deviantartbut I know the staff doesn't have time to go through every theme that shares something so examples may be needed
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] RedCastle:
Ok here's a simple solution to give credit to all that's do credit.

Disclaimer=

*** I appreciate the hard work and have used icons/images from various sources.. for your hard work I appreciate it and you work lives on in insert theme name here. I wish I can recall all the names of the original makers but I can't as I have scoured the internet and other sources and can't recollect them. If 1 of your images is posted here that should not have been redistributed or used please feel free to contact Theme maker name here and we will work on resolving the issue.

End Disclaimer

The above should quickly cover your own @ss and give credit and thus stopping the fighting.

Now how many people have used google to search an item to recreate? not all are graphic masters and not all while trying to develop something remembers their sources.

I personally thank all theme makers and others for their hard work!!!
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] brandenk:
ANYONE ANYWHERE MAY USE ANY AND ALL COMPONENTS OF MY THEMES WITH OR WITHOUT ANY REFERENCE TO ME OR THOSE THAT HELP ME

With that said, I am here to help and learn. We are what make this phone awesome, not Google, not HTC, not T-mobile, and not any 1 person. I am truly honored anytime you guys use my components in your own themes, if I didnt I would not bother to make them.

If you guys cant understand that imitation is the highest form of flattery all I can say is go watch Star Trek, I learned this lesson from Data on TNG years ago and it has served me very well. Granted, i love it when you guys mention my name if you use my clock but Im not going to be offended if you dont. Especially since the clock wasnt "my idea". Im sure there are a million people out there that could argue they created something very similar way before me, and to them all I have to say is thank you for the great idea and I hope you appreciate my hard work to take your "idea" to the next level.

My ideal scenario would be everyone taking bits and pieces from themes they like and compiling them into a theme that is perfect for them. :)
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] tehseano:
Do you know how many of them probably got their icons from the same source? I know some of the themes were yes, obviously borrowed icons, but others were just coincidence. The whole point of open source is that anyone, can take anything anyone makes, change some ****, and create something totally new. Yes, they SHOULD provide credit, but its not key.

Simply put, if you don't want people to use your ideas, do NOT post them. Simple as that. Any moderator that finds the need to close a thread for that purpose is just, well lack for a better word, dumb.

Now to the theme makers directly, I thank them for all the work they put into the themes, it is a lot of work. However they aren't doing it for us, its for them. I wouldn't create a theme based on what everyone else will want, I'd make one that I like, I enjoy, then later post it here to allow others to use it.

So everyone, stop *****ing, stop complaining, and just enjoy what everyone has to offer.
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] Geo411m:
I used that very same clock in my theme and I credited brandenk for it, what tootall4la is doing is wrong. Some people put allot of work into creating these themes, the least he could do is say thanks to brandenk for his clock and what not. Also, I think he got a complete lack of respect for others. Here's a quote when someone suggested he give credit to other people for using their work to create his "Frankenstein"

I know he never credited me for the resources he used,

which is just the brushed metal I created for my Macdroid theme and there's plenty of other stuff he used and never gave a thanks for it. I'm not trying to be a jerk but it is common courtesy to give a thanks.
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] manup456:
Open the thread most of the themes contain parts of other themes,I know cause I can see my work all over but that does not matter. Hey guys I also say anything I have done as far as themes can be used with out giving me credit or permission if you want to give credit that would be better but its cool with me either way. :)

Its not like google or T-Mobile even gave permission to do this lol....I love forum.
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] brandenk:
:eek: Oh Noes! You mean Mr. T. Mobile himself didnt give you permission to do this?!?! Thats it, im burning my phone and calling the cops on all of your guys!
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] manup456:
Well they gave me permission but hey that's me LMAO!!!! Hey an stop calling me I'm off duty.

Theme Police are watcing :cool: I need better sun glasses.
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] dthadamaja:
Well....this is indeed a touchy subject. I Believe the thread should be reopened as well but.....I agree with Geo411. There does seem to be a lack of respect for other authors. There are authors on here such as Manup and Brandek that do not care, but that does not go for everyone. I for one dont really care for my own theme, but I love and respect all who have contributed to the community and wish that we do give credit to others that worked so hard and actually wanted to be recognized for it. It really does not take that much time to type out a few lines of recognition....Reopen the thread once recognition has been given. :)
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] Mikey:
Unless his attitude changes tootall4la will keep hitting a brick wall.

G1 is a fine line with "crediting" sources, since it is open-source.

Although, common courtesy of a thank you to all, is humane, a nice juster.

As for tootall4la's thread to reopen, noticing most theme makers dont mind whether they get credit or not, tootall4la should figure out who he should thank and PM him or them and work it out.

My opinion on this matter doesnt mean a thing. Since im not the mod who closed the thread, i wont be the mod to reopen it without assurance from all, that it's ok to reopen it.
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] TruTechGeek:
Very Well Put... This Would Really Help Solve All This Madness. and i noticed they shut down the thread but i havent seen ONE post supporting keeping the thread closed which should make a point to the moderators that just because ONE person may have a problem, what ablout the rest of the people on the forums who IMO majority doesn't have a problem and wants the thread re opened.
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] brandenk:
Agreed, and it is personal taste. As a rule of thumb I think communities like this function more on sharing than owning content so if you want to own your content this community probably isnt the place for you. That said, I would like to encourage the sharing aspect of the community and remember, even tho I dont mind anyone using my components, when I get a thank you it goes a long way. Sometimes its a simple "ty" other times its someone buying me a beer, either way the more I get from you guys for my hard work the more willing I am to bust my balls trying to improve things for you guys.

What goes around comes around. :cool:
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] manup456:
One Q; if the site really cared if we got credit then why is there no thank you button which would solve the problem. When you drop your theme you can be thanked and get your credit automatic.

Anyway a theme section is what's really needed not people fighting about themes who's icons belong to another designer,does anybody ask them permission?

Keep the piece guys it not that serious I would take what ever part of the theme that the other person is complaining about. Tell me what it is and ill make one for you,but I hope this is not going to be your only theme. I want to see some more work after this original.
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] Geo411m:
Hey I also don't mind if people use/improve my theme, what I'm referring to was the improper etiquette used. Here's a PM from a user on the forum asking if he can improve upon my theme. This is proper etiquette.

I agree with this, if it wasn't for JF finding loopholes to root or Stericson for sharing what he discovered we about theming, we wouldn't be here modding our phones in the first place.
[XPERIA X1 General] human75:
http://www.shapewriter.com/ released new keyboard that calls shapewriter.i tried and i liked it.i havent found any bug yet.it is fit with finger writing as well.enjoy.cheers guys
[XPERIA X1 General] nurps:
What language files are available for this?
[XPERIA X1 General] ZenithUK:
Yes, I've tried it and while it has a nice flow to it, it simply requires too much accuracy to be any good without a stylus. The keyboard itself is very nice, but I'm not paying $20 for it when I can get a perfectly useable keyboard from XDA-Dev for free.
[XPERIA X1 General] msalmank:
http://xperiancer.blogspot.com/2009/02/shapewriter-now-wvga-compatible.html
[XPERIA X1 General] fards:
so where's the wvga skyfire then?
[XPERIA X1 General] Tylwith:
i prefer spb keyboard which is also fully compaible with the phone with language change on the flyvery pratical when you speak two language in a country
[XPERIA X1 General] human75:
Some of Sbp keybord skins (for example iphone skin) aint compatible with xperia during my test.is this skin working on your xperia?thanks
[XPERIA X1 General] msalmank:
hmmm... i have it with me on my desktop. Don't know if its allowed to share it here... :D
[XPERIA X1 General] toucam:
Tried it all, SPB Keyboard, Resco Pro, ShapeWriter, TouchPal but in the end I go back to use EzInput 1.5 and you all know what that means :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Kay_:
Updated to v1.0 - BETA4 (2009-02-05)

About TouchBack

TouchBack is an application for emulating haptic feedback for Windows Mobile 6.0 devices. It has been designed simply to give a configurable feedback response to your fingers within the SIP window and within the DialPad window. Settings persist between device resets and you can enable TouchBack to start-up automatically upon device bootup.

The current version of TouchBack is being released as a beta, as I'd like to get some feedback on how it works for you. Despite the beta status, I have been running the program daily since the end of November and it hasn't crashed once yet - No detectable slow-downs have been caused by running the application in the background either (and the memory footprint is very small at 4KB).

I do realise that other decent haptic feedback programs have popped up (e.g. TouchResponse), and I don't want the authors to feel like I'm trying to step on their toes. I just thought it was a waste to not release the application after pouring time into it - I may also consider releasing the source code once I get my website up and running.

Please leave feedback on whether or not TouchBack works for you and your device. Enjoy! :)

Features

Haptic feedback (!) within SIP, DialPad or Both.

Support for multiple dialers (stock DialPad and iDialer so far).

Activate feedback On Press, After Press or Both.

Configurable vibration length (minimum: 1ms)

Configurable ignore press period (prevent multiple vibrations).

Start-up automatically on reset.

Settings persist across resets.

Installation/Setup

Download the CAB file and copy to your device.

Run the CAB and install the program.

Run the TouchBackCfg application found within your Start menu.

Configure your desired settings - Ensure your notification (vibration) port is correct (click on test area to check).

Click on Menu -> Save Config to save your settings.

Click on the "Start" button to start TouchBack, then you can exit the program.

Version History

Version 1.0 - BETA4

Added: Support for different dialers (currently: stock DialPad + iDialer).

Fixed: Vibration does not work on stock DialPad when non-English language is set.

Version 1.0 - BETA3

Fixed: Failure to create/delete startup shortcuts on systems with non-standard startup path (e.g. Non-English).

Version 1.0 - BETA2

Added: Resolution-aware Dialogs.

Fixed: Configuration does not display correctly on VGA displays.

Version 1.0 - BETA1

Initial Beta Release.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Kay_:
Reserved for updates.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Yuna:
Why is it better TouchResponse?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] littld:
Just looking at it, it has the advantage of being much smaller in size, so you'd assume it uses less memory. It also supports the dial pad which I think is very good.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Yuna:
please, make this program to display properly on diamond, evrithng else works like a charm!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Kay_:
What's the problem? How does it display? I presume you're talking about the TouchBackCfg application. Are parts of it cut-off? I can work on fixing that if that is the case. Please let me know if it is similar to the attached image.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zen_green:
It sounds so good! Actually, I looked for a vibration feedback only for SIP and Dialpad, so it looks like just perfectly suit...

But unfortunately, on my Cruise, the vibration don't work for the dialpad (I use the Amine Opal Dialer). Only works for the SIP (TouchPal).

Do you think it is possible to fix that?

Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Yuna:
yes, just like that - cutted off...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Kraize:
Does this app still have that problem that TouchResponse has? The one where sometimes a touch stimulates a stronger vibration from time to time?

And is there anyway to have exceptions in this? Like suppose I don't want it to give me haptic feedback in a certain app.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] superman.namrepus:
Nice work Kay_! Works great on my Sprint Diamond. Keep up the great work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] scdavis:
Hey Kay,

Thats exactly how my screen looks on a Touch Pro (VGA) and i dont get feedback when dialing, just on the keyboard.

I checked the settings too, they were right...

nice app!

-SCDavis
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CorruptedSanity:
Looks nice and almost identical to TouchResponse.

Can we know, from your side, the differences or benefits this has over TouchResponse?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Kay_:
I've added resolution-awareness to the config application, so it should now display correctly on VGA devices. There is a separate profile for those with the HTC Touch HD to take advantage of the slightly roomier window space. ;-)

You can vary the period that TouchBack prevents multiple vibrations using the "Ignore Length (ms)" setting. The default is set to 100ms, and this seems to prevent most repeats - But you may need to adjust it higher if you're a particularly fast typist (erm, "stylist" if you're an adept stylus user I suppose!)

As for exclusions, this currently isn't supported - The idea was to make TouchBack a simple program that targets the SIP window and DialPad windows only. Why do you not want haptic feedback for a specific window?

Aye - The current support for the HTC Touch HD default dialpad is a bit of a hack, so I thought this might not work across different mobiles. On the upside, if you let me know exactly what dial pad it is then I'll be able to get it onto my Touch HD and see if I can program support in for it. I'll have a look into the Amine Opal Dialer that zen_green mentioned too.

...

Thanks for the feedback folks! Don't let me stop you though, try out BETA2. I'll implement AppToDate support after we get past the initial BETA period (well, that is if people want to continue using the application, hehe).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Kay_:
TouchBack primarily runs as a tiny (4Kb) resident program that sits in the background, and hooks into system events - It doesn't consume any processing time apart from when you've clicked/pressed the screen. Performance is also very good with regards to feedback response and there is no appreciable slowdown from activating vibration.

This isn't a direct comparison with TouchResponse, as I'm unaware of the internals of that program; although I do know that my approach to the problem is different from that of TouchResponse (but I'm not claiming that this method is better, just different). Thus. I'm hoping to sell TouchBack on its simplicity and small memory footprint, and the fact that I'm primarily targetting SIP/DialPad as opposed to giving general haptic feedback for everything.

I'll have to let users themselves decide which they like - Please try out the program and see for yourself. All feedback and constructive criticism is entirely welcome. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zen_green:
Thanks very much for considering our comments and requests.

Keep this great work!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lpaso:
On my french HTC Touch HD, I don't get any vibration with the dialpad. I use the stock ROM, with the stock dialpad. Maybe a localisation failure ?

(I can't make TouchBack to start with Windows either : I got the error "could not create shortcut").
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Kay_:
Aye - Likely a localisation issue. I'll have to look into programmatically looking up the name (via SHGetSpecialFolderPath) for the start menu rather than just assuming it is "Start Menu" *cough* hard-coded *cough*. ;) I am writing a test app to help me diagnose these issues at the moment.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Kay_:
OK, solved the localisation issue with the startup path. I'll upload the new version whenever I make some progress on making it work with DialPads other than the stock English ROM one.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CorruptedSanity:
:) As above.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kayge:
Will this work for iDialer (the keypad that accompanies iContact)? If not can you associate it iDialer?

I've made that my default dial pad on my Diamond and would like haptic response.

Thx.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sir.B:
i love the idea of a small focused app for SIP feedback

your progress looks really nice

would you consider adding audible feedback in conjunction with vibration

that way we can have our keyboards click

thanks for your time and your consideration
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sir.B:
double post

sorry, please disregard
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Kay_:
I'm not sure - Feel free to try it and report back. If it doesn't work then I have a small debugging app that I can send to people that logs some information which might help me add support for third party dialers. :)

Aye, it is something I'd consider - I'm not sure how good the performance will be though. I've noticed that some devices already have the ability to add a clicking noise for SIP, and the DialPad already produces tones. This is the reason I didn't look at this originally. :)

Thanks for the feedback guys!

If anyone had issues with TouchBack not displaying correctly on their VGA device, or if they had an issue with adding it to the startup correctly, then please download and use BETA3. Cheers!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] glaucos:
Seems to work perfectly on a Eten X800, thanks! :)

No, with iDialer I have no vibration...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Kay_:
Just a general post to those that I've sent the debugging app to - Please ensure that TouchBack is *not* active before running the debug app. You can do this by running the TouchBack Config app and then hitting the 'Stop' button. Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kayge:
I installed and it does NOT work with iDialer.

Works great with SIP (TouchPal) and stock dial pad, bit I'd sure love to see you give it a go with iDialer.

Thanks for the App!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Kay_:
Yep, thanks to glaucos's I've gotten enough information to program in support for iDialer (although it'll not be as precise as the stock DialPad). Looks like the next beta of TouchBack will have the option to choose which Dialing app you use. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jm1981:
I have not touch feedback on my htc Diamond :confused:

I activated touchback, but the only feedback I have is on the small square to test, on the configuration window.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Kay_:
jm1981: Make sure it says 'Active' at the top of the TouchBack Config application - If the vibration works within the test box then click on Menu and then Save and Exit. Go to your text messaging and create new a message, then open up the software input panel and press some of the keys, you should get some vibration response. If you're using the stock DialPad, then you should get some there too. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jm1981:
ok, it works with the keyborad, but not with the dialpad of tf3d

I used before touchresponse and it was vibrating on each press on the screen, i was expecting that.

I'll use touchback and see if it is fine to me :)