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[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Dredger97:
Well maybe DredSensor is not running then...

It's supposed to autostart on startup, but you can manually launch it on:

/Program Files/DredSensor/DredSensor.exe

1st time you run it, it starts (silently).

2nd time you run it, it stops (and alert you by a popup).

Can you check that this works as it should?

Then, assert it's running, and then try the stylus test.

If it works, you have to make a link to DredSensor.exe in your startup folder (in french, its /Windows/Démarrage so I suppose its something like /Windows/Startup in english)

To make a link, you can use total commander, it works fine.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Dredger97:
New version 1.2b; tried to fix TouchLockPro conflicts and similar.

I'm not completely sure it works but i tried to make it crash during half an hour without success so it seems to be fixed :p.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] antlane:
I've managed to work out how to get the scroll to work. I have to disable and then reenable DredSensor by running the .exe file twice. The scroll wheel then works as expected. Does this give you enough info to maybe fix this problem?

Unfortunately, it doesn't fix the problem where clicking the back key a number of times in quick succession ends up sending a back command.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Dredger97:
For the 1st problem, if the scrolling wheel works when you start manually, and not when it autostart at startup, i think i can fix this...

The second problem you have is quite hard to solve as i work on a fully undocumented api.

What appends is that when I hook the hard keys, I really often loose the hook, and i still didn't found any way to detect precisely when i loose the hook.

So actually I combine a few event based method and a timer every second to control that I still hook the keys, but there are "holes", mainly when the foreground window changes.

One solution would be to run the timer every miliseconds ;), but it would become processor consuming so it's not a good solution...

I'm still looking for a solution, maybe on a lucky day ;)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] antlane:
This is strange, the scroll wheel now appears to be working correctly, even after a reboot. I'm not sure what I did! Leaving "block scrolling wheel" unchecked suddenly allowed the wheel to scroll (it was doing nothing before) and checking it means that applications like Google Maps, Opera allow the wheel to zoom in. I don't know if manually stopping/starting it somehow "unjammed" something. I did uninstall/reinstall the app but even then, it wasn't working correctly at first!

Good luck to see if you can dig into the API any futher to work out why pressing the back key in quick succession doesn't work yet doing the same with the home key is ok. I take it this behaviour is the same on other ROMs (I'm using the stock ROM from my UK TMobile Vario IV)?

Any chance you can get the left/right (and up/down) commands to obey the screen orientation? And if you can get the left/right commands to work on menus then the app will be perfect!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] benko286:
this app sometimes works sometimes not, i set everything but funkcion of buttons are same :(

sometimes it is working
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] kwill:
im having the same concern. i having everthing setup in the launcher tab. sometimes after a soft reset it will work fine for a bit. ill be working in my phone and then try to go to the dialer using the talk button and it does nothing. all button mappings are lost. soft reset and it works fine again so im not sure exactly when the app loses focus. is there a way to set up sometime type of debug log without any actual particular error being thrown?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Dredger97:
When it doesn't work anymore, is DredSensor still running or not? (when you get the stylus out, do you have small vibration?)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] JoeSchmoe22:
I have been using version 1.2b with TouchLockPro for about 1 day and I have had no crashes with either program. Looking Good! I think you may have this problem fixed! :D

I will post again in a week.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] megapinky:
Hi, great soft, one big question, i can't use scroll and keysimul, works but when i touch left and rigth the phone star to repeat the accion, when i press up and down i dont have this problem,

it's something whith my rom? i'm using Calcu Kitchen 4.3,

i dont have simillar aplications, only MobileMagic

pd sorry about poor english :o
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] benko286:
app is just losses foritself and hw keys sometimes even doesent work, i will uninstall ap :(

this will be excellent app if it will be stable.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] kwill:
maybe thats what it is now that u mention it. never thought about it, but yeah the vibration isnt there, so it must not be running. any ideas or steps that can be taken to debug the problem? thanks again dredger and i really appreciate ur help

ediit** i manually launched the exe and its running, but none of the launcher functions work except the reg keys (talk and end). no apps though. so, i went back in and app stopped running. relaunched tried again and it didnt launch anything. so, its hard to track down when it stops working:(
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] antlane:
I'm going to try this with a newer ROM as I'm still only getting intermittent functionality (both in terms of button mapping and also with the wheel working/not working). Will report back when I've had a chance to test.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Dredger97:
I'll try to produce a debug version to try to catch when it stop working...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] kwill:
sounds good as i really like the app and want to get it working all the time:)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] toadabc:
my experience

Nice program. Scroll and KeySimul don't seem to work. What's the difference between Scroll and KeySimul? Launcher works, but on and off: sometimes no matter how many double taps I do, nothing happens. I wonder if it has to do with button sensitivity and if there's a way to increase it?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] toadabc:
re: my experience

By the way, I'm using a GSM diamond, ROM 1.93.

Another thing, I mapped double tap to key_up and key_down. I'd like the scroll to be by line, but it's actually by a few lines. Wonder if there's anything I can do to have it scrool by line? I'm using it inside Pocket IE.

Thanks.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] JoeSchmoe22:
Still no problems. I think you fixed the conflict. Great job!!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] lotion:
I get a persistent spinning wheel when I get to the programs/events/default programs window. Nothing loads in the default tab or the events tab and programs seems only to have a few items.

Da_G's kitchen, pretty default setup on a Touch Pro (Fuze).

e: I've also noticed that you can't specify a click or double click action for one hardware key and keep the other hard keys functioning as normal. For example, I'm trying this configuration:

Home Key:

-Double Tap -> skey.exe (Opens the start menu)

-Click -> Nothing (Not managed by DredSensor)

-Double Click -> Nothing (Not managed by DredSensor)

Back Key:

-Double Tap -> Google Mobile App

-Click -> okey.exe (OK/Close button)

-Double Click -> Google Maps

This configuration won't allow me to use the home key other than with Double Tap.

If I just leave the double tap actions in, clicks work as they normally would without DredSensor however as soon as I assign any hardware key either a click or double click action, no hardware key works as it would by default if I've left that entry blank in DredSensor.

Am I missing something?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Dredger97:
New version is available, see first post for modifications.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Dredger97:
Well you're right, as soon as I have no way to catch hard key one by one, if I catch one of them, I catch all of them.

You have to assign the 3 other keys to their default event if you want them to keep working.

Sorry for the lack of documentation, I unfortunatly don't have time to write a website about it...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] lotion:
I figured out the bug which causes programs not to load ...

It occurs when there is an empty folder in \windows\start menu\programs.

In my case, I had \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games\ but nothing in that folder.

e: Got a new exception on start up ... SmartTouch service is not found.

Might want to put a delay on initialization if started with device (perhaps a command line argument in the shortcut in StartUp)?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Dredger97:
Ok, those 2 bugs should be fixed now.

See first post for new version (v1.2d)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Dynomite232:
man today i was looking for this app but didnt know the name of it then u updates it very nice thanx for this app goin to try it out today :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] benko286:
again with this version also i have problems.

at first my diamond freezed twice when i edited hw buttons and than pressed them.

now i have edit hw buttons but nothing happens(i mean hw button does its job and i set in app misc:nothing)???
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Dredger97:
So I think you should follow the debug process as explained in first post.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] programatix:
Hi,

Thanks for a great software. But I have some minor problems with it.

(Solved)

In version 1.2, I have problem using the scrolling wheel when I've set the Default profile to Launcher mode. Turning the wheel does nothing. I can't find any work around for this, but thanks to you version 1.2d fixed it.

(Unsolved)

I also have a problem with the Camera where when I touch the action button, it won't focus. So to work around this problem, I create a profile for the camera and set it to disabled. This does the job well and I am happy with it. The action button works and the scrolling wheel zoom and unzoom correctly. But sadly version 1.2d introduces a new bug with this setting. When I touch the action button, the camera focused and stuck there. Even if I released the action button (lifted my finger), it won't let go. The only way to stop this behaviour is to press the action button which will take the picture. Also the scrolling wheel will not zoom and unzoom anymore.

Attached is the log file and my setting. For the log file, this is what I did:

Start Debug mode using Resco Explorer

Start Camera

Scroll the scroll wheel. Nothing happens.

Touch the action key. Camera focused.

Lift finger from action key. Camera still focused, won't let go.

Press action key. Camera takes picture.

Scroll the scrolling wheel. Nothing happen.

(Request)

Would be great if you add one more action, triple taps.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Dredger97:
This bug is solved. You can download the v1.2e.

I'll probably add triple taps soon.

Regards.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] programatix:
Thanks for the fix. It's working great now.

Btw, I'm wondering why does the scroll wheel change behaviour when using Opera. Without DredSensor, the scroll wheel zoom and unzoom but with it enable, the scroll wheel now scroll Opera. To workaround this, I'll have to create a profile for Opera and Block Scrolling Wheel.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Dredger97:
Well i've no idea as the scrolling wheel work fine with Opera on my htc (with or without DredSensor enabled)

You have to know that i'm using a full undocumented api, that is not basically designed for that, and that apparently changes from one ROM to another...

So as long as this program is free and that i only have one htc to make test on it, it's quite hard to make it work for everybody...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] bbobeckyj:
I can't download the cab to my phone, it shows a page of code?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Dredger97:
Did you try the latest link ?

DredSensor-v1.2e

What do u mean by "it show a page of code" ? what kind of code?...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] bbobeckyj:
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[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Ph33zy:
Can you add a delay to the program starting up? I keep getting "Touchscroll service cannot be found upon soft reset" This happens with version d and e- version c was fine for me.

I'm using a Sprint TP.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Dredger97:
And what if you right click and choose "Save as"?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Dredger97:
And you don't have this message if you start DredSensor manually?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Ph33zy:
Yup. I take it out of the /Windows/Startup folder and no error message. I then click on the exe and dredsensor starts up w/o any error messages.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] bbobeckyj:
can't be done in Pocket IE, it gives the menu for PIE.

I just installed opera and it did give me the iption to view or save.

I've only found this to happen with one other site - xFlib.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Dredger97:
OMG your services starts up crazily slowly ;) :D

Ok, I've added more startup delay (up to 50 sec)... I hope it's ok now...

See first post for new version...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] kwill:
funny your cracking jokes about his startup being slow and i get the same error:) so, that means mine must bee slow too:D totally kidding. i just wanted to say that since 1.2d i havent been really having problems with the app not working so its good to see improvement in stability. thanks for your hard work and the only question i have is if there is a way to change the sensitivity of the double taps. sometimes i get it, sometimes not. more often than not though. but, it just kind of defeats the purpose if its hit and miss. or, it may just be a function of the where the sensor is located itself. either way, thanks again and its become a VERY reliable alternative to not having hardkeys!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] toadabc:
problem in PIE: repost from old thread

Repost from old thread. I'm using the latest version.

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I'm using DredSensor on HTC Diamond. When I'm in Pocket IE, a slight touch of the center button would close the app and bring me out to the TouchFlow 3D screen. I only have double tap mapped and none of the 4 keys are mapped to TouchFlow 3D screen. Other than this problem, it works fine. But the problem is deadly.

Strangely it doesn't close any other apps when I touch the center button inside them.

The problem disappears if I set DredSensor to "Disable". However, enabling it with even empty button mappings brings back the problem.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Dredger97:
This bug is now fixed.

See first post for new version.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Dredger97:
Actually the double taps maximum delay is 300 ms.

I'll try to make it parametrizable in future version (for those whose fingers are as slow as their service startup :D)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] toadabc:
thanks for fixing the PIE bug

It works now. Great app. I mapped a button double tap to a time telling app (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=452514). Now I can get the time easily without exiting PIE. And mapped another button to going back a page. Now I can do so without leaving full screen mode.

If DredSensor could map the swiping in the touch pad area into screen dragging, that would be fantastic. I use my HTC Diamond mostly to read HTML documents in PIE. Due to lack of line scrolling, I scroll the pages mainly by dragging the screen. I'd rather do it on the touch pad, though.

Thanks again for the Really Useful App.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] gierran:
dred,

I just read u software is made for diamond. I think it has a 4 true hardkeys. I have a touch hd (4 keys in bottom device), but I have same doubts that these are a true type hardkeys (I think maybe one or two only. The first one and last one...maybe).

However have u any info if is possibile install dredsensor into touch hd? And if it possibile, after software is installed how u configure any key?

Thank in advance
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Dredger97:
Sorry, as i only have a diamond, i can only make test on it.

So i've no idea if there's a way to do something similar on an HD.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] toadabc:
could be a bug

I'm using HTC Diamond. I mapped the doulbe tap of the 4th button (hang up call) to telling time. However, when I swipe down (to scroll the page) on the area to the left of the button, very often I'd trigger telling time. Definitely I didn't accidentally do a double tap - I experimented with single swipes and left a long time between swipes. I didn't even touch the button itself.

This seems to also happen with other buttons.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] nir36:
I noticed a bug.

when I disable Dredsensor's control over the buttons Activesync through bluetooth works. when i enable it, it doesn't.

weird.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] owilsky:
Nice idea for an app!

Two suggestions:

a.

Please add an about msgbox in your menu so that we can check which version we are running.

b.

How about adding AppToDate support?

Thanks for listening,

Oliver
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] bmanashe:
Links not working!

Ugh! links for download are not working! can someplease please tell me a link for the 1.2 version!!

Cheers :(
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] jsmith8858:
Hi -- this is a great app and and amazing piece of work. Any chance you'd be interested in sharing the source code? Or at least providing some tips on how you were able to capture + remap the HOME and BACK keys?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Dredger97:
Hi all.

As i'm dad since about 1 month, I don't have much time after my job to continue working on DredSensor.

Sorry for those who want some upgrade that I probably won't have time to develop.

I anyone wan't to develop a program with the same kind of functionnality, here is the tip for catching the keys.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=492996

Make good use of it ;)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] nir36:
I would actually only like to know if you're aware of the bug with active sync's bluetooth syncing.. as when dredsensor is activated bt activesync won't work for some reason.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Dredger97:
I took note of your request but i've no idea about why it occures and how to solve it.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] jsmith8858:
First off, congrats! I myself became a dad for the first time about 5 months ago, and much like yourself, I have found that suddenly I have very little time for anything else!

Second, thanks for the info, it is much appreciated! If I can make good use of it (which I think, eventually, I can!), a donation will be forthcoming.

Enjoy fatherhood and welcome to the club!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] nir36:
Alright. thank you

and congratulations :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] toadabc:
could be another bug

Have fun with your baby.

In case you want to tweak the app: it seems to prevent me from getting into full screen mode in PIE. I'm using the launcher mode and only mapped double taps. I'm using PIEplus. I usually lose the full screen ability after a few hours' use. A reboot would fix it but the problem comes back every time. If I disable DredSensor for PIE, I wouldn't have the issue with full screen. Strange.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] nir36:
strange that this app is related to applications which have nothing to do with it :)

I hope we manage to solve this...

I can't use BTSync and can't give dredsensor up cause I can't give up hardware keys...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ascorpion:
Is it possible to map a Task Facade program to backbutton? That everywhere i click back button i get task facade running?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] bio-man:
Yes, I do it but the "click" is quite long.;)

Problem with SU2U: the action following a hard-key pressed pass over the lock of the S2U2:(
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] bbobeckyj:
S2U2 Does not effectively lock the device, it simply has a wallpaper/screen image which can be closed by sliding the icon, often it doesn't block the keys and can be closed if you have a close (not ok) button mapped, sometimes it also minimizes but can still be seen running in the backgroung with (for example) wkTask, usually this occurs if you run the S2U2 exe after another prog which takes longer to run & show itself
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] bio-man:
Thk for your answer.

Does an efficient lock exist blocking hard-keys (exepted the carrier one)?

By the way, we could use DredSensor normally.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Vrtfrank:
Problem with German Htc 2.03 Rom Diamond

Hello. In German Rom only left and right events are working in scrolling. Up and down doesn´t work. The Hardkeys are predefined for Homekey:Star (not up) and Backkey:Pound (not down as it should be). Maybe a different language dependent mapping?

Can I solve this Problem?

Apart from that your app is geat!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] xtruh:
hi, i have problem running your app.

need to remap keys for playing Tomb Raider, as my HTC Jade doesn´t have enough hardware keys... but:

1. nothing happens when i run game and take stylus out and back so i dont have required class and stuff to type into config ( guess my phone does not know if stylus is in or no)

2. strange error when dredsensor is running: Attention. no touch device present

(or something like that, dont remember exactly, i already uninstalled for above reasons)

so, can you kindly make version with different action in place of stylus off/back ? and check out that error... maybe its related to stylus itself ?

thanks

alternatively, someone here maybe have functional config file for TR ?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Dredger97:
May be the hardkeys are predefined on Star and Pound so all you have to do is modify them...

I can't see where the problem is with that.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Dredger97:
It's designed to work on an HTC Touch Diamond, so if it tell's it can't find the touch sensor on your device, that means that it's not compatible with your device...