yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
Well God Bless You and God Bless America !

Jesus H. Christ. It appears you have finally come to your senses! :D

And on that day, the earth stood still for half minute as the chef realized the err of his ways.

Seems to me that based on your initial criteria for what belongs (and what does NOT belong) in "JustStable" --the leanest cleanest ROM which includes the MOST BASIC APP REQUIREMENTS, Arcsoft has never qualified as MUST-HAVE. So, to me, your quest to make it work for all was a self-assigned impossible task. :) I really would love to see, down the line for your new "justKitchens" site (which looks great btw) the kind of utility I've been talking about.

It's a secondary installation cab (or a series of them) that include some of the most frequently asked for "EXTRAS" as opposed to essentials... and these would be launched by an auto-config sequence JUST LIKE you have for T-Mobile modem settings.

It just seems to me that you can establish a protocol that prenames or pre-references any number of "ADDITIONAL INSTALLATION PACKS", such that after the main ROM configures, maybe even before T-M0bile settings are added, the user is prompted for "INSTALL ADD-ON PACK"? (and then user can enter a number, starting with 001, 002, 003, 004 etc, which correspond to "ADD-ON PACK" cabs that are named the same, or they are prefaced with 001, 002, 003, 004 etc up to 999 customized add-on cab-packs), .... And here's how it would work:

the user is prompted for "INSTALL ADD-ON PACK"?

[ yes ] [ no ]

if [ no ] the ROM completes and then confgures t-mobile modem etc.

if [yes], then prompt asks "Enter the Install-Pack #, then NEXT"

if user enters "004", then NEXT, the batch file/script seeks that file name on either device or storage card. If found (because the user had already added that post-install-ROM add-on cab to phone), then that cab runs. If it is not found, message says "Sorry, that file is not found. Please complete this ROM installation and then manually add that cab afterwards"....

and there is a [Finish ROM Installation] link... but also text that says:

"if there is no response in 5 seconds, the ROM will auto-complete its installtion.

Similarly, if, when the ROM batch file says "INSTALL ADD-ON PACK?", the user does not answer, the ROM will auto-complete after 5 seconds.

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I have never understood why chefs have not considered these modular installation packs. That way they can keep stuff lean, as is your standard practice, Ivan, but also provide "best of breed" add-ons that users find most popular or in demand. This would alleviate problems for people (like me) who really don't have time to go learn how to COOK and create my own custom ROM ... and instead enable practically the same result as a post-processing add-on.

Anyway, for your consideration. ...

Does anyone else here think this is a useful idea?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
THANKS lennyjaxn -- I am just seeing this Friday night. I apprecviate your response, that helps a lot.

:)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
The batching thing would require that I learn how to program in mortscript or something and would still add bulk to the ROM as the addons would be stored locally unless I called them from the memory card.

I've always included the MMS because to some, it is a requirement. Some use it on a daily basis. The thing is that I thought I had finally ironed it out, as everyone was telling me that the newest build had the perfect arcsoft, but apparently, it doesn't work on at least one user. The phones are the same, the service is the same, yet somehow it doesn't work for one but it works for the other.

I don't have cabs of anything (as the cooking process doesn't use cabs) so it'll have to be up to the user to find arcsoft if they needed unless I could track down and find the most used versions and post them on here.

I gotta think about this since I plan to go Beta soon...

Anyhoo, thanks on the compliments on the site. I threw it together so I was hoping it wouldn't turn out hideous. lol

Thankfully, I had already existing templates, themes and other php "apps" to work with.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
I agree.

I have to say that, with all honesty and respect, all the MMS problems of individuals have, unintentionally, derailed completion of this ROM, which has been in development since Feb 7th. It;s now May 1st, and in addition to ivan working to solve the Just STable ROM and releae it, there have been all new ROMs splitting attention -- especially windows 6.5... Then specialty kitchens etc... To me the whole objective of this ROM has been lost -- and I have to say it's at a practical point now that if this isn't wrapped up, it witll NEVER be done and put to bed, because then a new OS kernel will be released, and a whole new effort.

In this regard I just have a very different philosophy of software development, especially for mobile devices where new stuff is coming around the corner every 3 months. If it's taking 3 months to get a ROM out, what's supposed to be a stripped down simplified ROM, then the practical value of such a ROM is greatly diminished. By the time someone waits and waits after everyone's unique MMS issue gets addressed, something entirely new will enter the markletplace -- and bypass the entire value of the ROM.

I know this is a geek site, and I love geeks. But I also have a very practicasl need to have a highly functional phone -- that is reliable and is fast. That's all I have wanted. Yet we're still in alpha while 3-4 oter projects are cooked up in parallel.

Ivan, can youi not just DECIDE, it's a wrap, pull out everything that's a problem, and then release it. For all these niche issues, isn't that the whole point of your kitchens?

Sorry but i feel like a dog chasing tail and I'm very frustrated. If I knew this project was going to go down this path with the developer splitting off into 3-4 other projects simultaneously, I honestly prob would not have donated and would have moved on to whatever was the most reliable thing around. this is nuts... and i mean this in as a respectful manner as possible. sorry if I offend. I don;t mean to sound ungrateful.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
It's ok. I'm not offended. I never meant for it to take this long. Between my work, real life and the MMS issue (which has taken a considerable about of time) this ROM has taken up a LOT of time to finish. Technically, every build that I release could be called a ROM by itself since the bugs are few and far in between with each build. It's been more like a rolling release than anything else. Also, the theming took a good month out of me... Unfortunately, that held me back quite a bit until I finally gave up and solved it myself as best I could.

Anyhoo, I'm anxious to finalize this ROM. All my other projects have been on hold since I've been working on this. (I've started a lot of other projects but not actually done anything with them. The 6.5 build was more a quick graft of JustStable on top of 6.5 than an effort at a ROM. The kitchen has been nothing more than two or three posts worth of "what if.")

Even JustStable itself has been through around 3 or 4 builds (started with 21018 and it's at 21043 now.)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
You're right, and I take responsibility for that. I thought I had done a good thing contacting htctoucher, even paid him to do this for this rom. he didn't come through and that was very disappointing.

I know, so I apologize for complaining. But I realize I really now have entered the zone of "complaining" vs adding value. As for your time, I always respect that someone put their home life first. if i recall you are still rather recently just married... so how you have time at all is beyond me. perhaps I inferred wrongly re all the other projects. Appearances can be deceiving. It has *appeared* as if those other projects were occupying as much time as this rom. It's just that I, like many others, have supported this idea since day 1 when you posted is anyone interested. Rather than just say "yeah, sounds sweet, ivan count me in", I was trying to give some suggestions as a way of prompting others to do the same and BE CONCRETE. Some did; most haven't. It just seems all skewed to me. But bottom line, no one;s entitled to have anyone's project completed, especialy when it's volunteer and not a paid engagement, so I feel only slightly out of line expressing this stuff.

I've done as much as I can do in contributing research and locating tangible assets to possib;ly include. I am just tired of hearing about 1001 variations of someone's MMS problems. It's not THeiR fault... it';s just that a one-size-fits-all build of arcsoft just doesn't seem possib;le. or if it is, it just adds too much development time in relation to total value add over X amount of time. I'm tired of flashing and then rebuilding 101 cabs, style, skin & registry chnages. and now i will shut up and just wait for a "Just Stable" release.... sorry for my little rant. But at least I've contributed actual implementable value to this ROM, so I don't feel THAT out of line. have a good weekend all.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] DestructDez1:
Looks like i wont be able to test lzx compression. I was really looking forward to the massive storage space. My sd card is way too big and I can't find one of my old phones that has a 512 sd in it :( ohwell. 15v10w is smooth and fast. I'm not sure if there is any speed difference but everything is working fine for me.

On a side note. Ivan, what theme are you planning to include with the final release?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] lennyjaxn:
as a further follow-up to this post, quicksite, here's what my regexport.ini file looks like:

[MySettings]

RegExportDirMode=Auto

key1=HKCU\ControlPanel

key2=HKLM\ControlPanel

key3=HKCU\Software

key4=HKLM\Software

you can add as many keys as you want, but these are the ones that restore ALMOST all of my settings. you'll have to track down where iFonz keeps theirs. i have been unable to figure out where Winterface keeps menu settings.

oh, and i place the regexport.ini file in \Storage Card\SASHIMI\Program\INI folder. i can't remember if it mentioned this in the tutorials or not, but there is a sample file in \Storage Card\SASHIMI\Program\Help. it's called sample-regexport.ini. i think i just opened that up in a text editor, changed the export mode to Auto, added one key and saved it to the INI folder as regexport.ini.

hope this helps.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] lennyjaxn:
check out this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=267475
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] DestructDez1:
I did that. I have a 8GB sd partitioned to 5 drives 100mb 1gb 1gb 1gb 4gb+. It didn't work for me.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Now I'm testing an Arcsoft-less version as we speak. This is the beta. If no bugs are found, this thing is DONE.

If you want to use MMS, you'll have to install your own arcsoft. Sorry.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] DestructDez1:
Cool. You can just post a link to an arcsoft thread and let people choose what version they want. Its no big deal not having mms.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
There isn't a main thread to link to, so I'll have to track down the cabs myself (unless someone wants to post them for me.)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] DestructDez1:
Heres the one that I used to use. I think this was posted earlier in this thread.

ArcsoftMMSComposer-5_0_31_16.cab
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Thank you!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] lennyjaxn:
weird. i have a 4GB card that i partitioned with a 64MB drive and left the rest. you're putting the HERAIMG.NBH file on the 100MB partition right? have you ever flashed via SD card before? is it formatted FAT32?

i realize these all might sound like dumb questions. but you never know.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] DestructDez1:
They are all formated to fat32 and I put the nbh in the 100mb partition. I've never flashed from sd card before. Do you think it has to do with the type of card?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] lennyjaxn:
probably not. what happens when you try to flash?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] DestructDez1:
I hold the camera button then press the reset button. The screen says searching sd card or something like that four about 1/2 second then it goes to the next screen that says my ipl and spl 4.10. After that theres nothing. For a long time it does nothing.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
It's not finding the HERAIMG.nbh so the card might just be too slow to report its contents.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] lennyjaxn:
i know when i first tried partitioning i used a 128MB partition. i thought the card was too slow, but then i tried a 64MB partition and it worked. couldn't hurt to try, but Ivan might be right too.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] DestructDez1:
Ill try making it smaller. Thanks for the help guys.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I uploaded JustStable - Beta like umm... 6 hours ago. :p

It's just the last alpha sans arcsoft.

I forgot to upload the LZX versions, but they will be uploaded in a few.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] lennyjaxn:
i hadn't tried any of the alphas after 15v6. i'm using the beta now. i've done everything i usually do and so far it's really great. haven't tried MMS yet, because i think i've maybe sent and received one picture message in my life, but everything else works great. don't really like the new PIE, but that's what opera mini's for.

EDIT: i downloaded and installed the ArcSoft cab someone posted a little ways back. i have sent and received pictures, audio and video just fine.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
the beta everything is good its just that the space storage that is just a little MMS working fined with me i install my own. Good choice Ivan haha even picked there own version
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] illconcepts:
MMS worked great for me
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] zapyourit:
EDIT: I am in fact an idiot. Found what I needed had I just looked in the other forum topics...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] DestructDez1:
Flashing now :D Do you know if there is a tf3d package or cab that woks with the wing and has the graphics driver fixed? I've searched around alittle and found several threads on tf3d. None of which are what I needed. wasn't there a rom released way back with tf3d? was it opentouch?

btw, throttle launcher is good but slow on the wing.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] DestructDez1:
Everything you need to know about the wing is here. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Herald Take a look at he noobies guide for more info.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] zapyourit:
Yep. Thank you. I realized the error of my ways and have now flashed this rom. It's gorgeous, by the way. Thanks for the quick reply DestructDez.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] pruzam:
hi,

yr rom is great (very fast),

now im using 15v10w and there are 2 calculators (Calculator and HTC Calculator) so maybe u can remove one of them.

and there is problem with audiomanager.exe because ... cannot be opened ...

should i use cab file?

how can i change colors in tasks? (red is awful)

how can i change icons in tasks? (there are two awful icons)

in calendar year display doesnt look pretty
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kienkham:
How to up LZX version

Great ROM, very fast, very stable. Can any one help me (or point me to a post with direction) to up the LZX version? Also, what is the difference between the standard and LZX version? I unzip the Wing Beta LZX and got the HERAIMG.nbh, put it in the flash center and got the "wrong size" error message.

Thanks
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] sambalbij:
LZX is another compression method. With a little bit (but unremarkable) more ram usage you get much more free space on internal storage. It's too small to flash through flashcenter, you have to flash it with a sd card.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Unfortunately, tf3d only work on certain CPU's (our don't have the raw clock speed, 3d acceleration nor the newer instruction set to support it.)

Thank you. ^_^

The calculators was an accident. It happens every time I upgrade the build version. The new build always readds the calculator. Will be fixed in the final.

Audiomanager.exe is not installed. What link are you pressing to open it? If you enabled the HTCHome player, that's why it's disabled, because audiomanager isn't installed.

What do you mean the colors in task?

What icons in task?

What do you mean tasks?

As sambalbij said, it's a compression system that allows for more free space, but it makes the nbh too small to flash through normal means. You have to hardSPL your phone if it isn't already and flash it through the SD method. (I made a walkthrough for it both in this thread a few pages ago and in a thread all about flashing through sd.) ^_^
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] zapyourit:
So I've got another question real quick. Now that I have this fine rom all loaded up and sittin' pretty, I can't connect to the Windows Mobile Device Center (ActiveSync for Vista) with my phone. I have advanced capabilities set on the phone, but no connection is made. Do I need Network Wizard (which I've heard mention of before) or something along those lines?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] pruzam:
ok now i understand, i add music to today htc home, and try to run it ...

about this tasks, in programs i find application name Tasks, and when i run it i found that there are two icons with bright blue border ...

when u add new task and change it priority to high u will see near this task exclamation icon with red background.

is there any possibility to change them?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Anyone else having this problem? I know that this happens on random ROMs at random times, but I forget what the fix is since I "upgraded" to xp. :p

That tasks program is actually part of windows mobile, not something I added or that can be easily modified, unfortunately.

EDIT: What bright blue border are you referring to?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] sambalbij:
I assume you tried it without advanced capabilities too?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
Ivan, all of this is great news. I so agree with everyone else. I don't need the Mercedes logo on my car to feel great that it has high power & performance (that's the XIP # issue) -- the performance matters totally; the number is meaningless :)

I am not savvy enough to know what "Clean" vs "LZX" vs "Clean LZX" mean. But to my layman's eyes, it seems to me that you have bent over backwards in the past providing not just a GREAT fast rom, but also a GREAT FAST ROM *AND* "XYZ" for some small group, and then not just that, but also yet ANOTHER "ABC" for another group, AND on top of that your kitchen setup so others can come in and customize even more.

Please hear this in the spirit I intend it: That is NUTS :) --- very generous and accomodating, mind you, but NUTS :) .... This is the time, when resources are slim, that carmakers consolidate a few of their model line customizations to reduce costs significantly by trimming just a little bit of "whatever color you want it in" -- still offering selection, but no need for backflips to accomodate every single one-off request.

I hope this isn't out of line -- but I urge you to focus on the product YOU want, which is fast and slim, and then let others add on what they want, and that's that. There's no reason at all, in my view, for this many variations. People want fast & reliable & current. It sounds like you are providing that. To me? The kitchen is closed to the chef who built it. Done. If anyone feels cheated, let them go use one of your earlier kitchens, or, sorry!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
ivan -- I just put in a request to one of XDA's best themers: htctoucher who has been pounding out beautiful new theming for almost every app offered at XDA... a few samples: his very latest mini-project --- plus his most current dialer and FULL SUITE touch-flo theme:

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I asked him via PM and told him I'd donate $50 to him if he would do this for you. Maybe there is someone else on this thread who would be willing to make some kind of donation to htctoucher to grab a little of his time to do this for ivan?

To me, they equal each other in terms of highest quality standards... No guarantees, but I hope he accepts and will do this.

Ivan, here is HTCtoucher's thread --- every single day for past month he has been adding apps to it.:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=471649
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ruebyi:
ivan you are the best!

I can't wait to test your stable rom. especially the Clean LZX version :D I need a lot of storage :p

Will your rom have the UC support? So I can Install all my apps at once?

ruebyi
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
All my ROMs are UC compliant. ^_^
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Thank you. He hasn't contacted me, yet, but I await his response. I really like the dialer I'm using because it allows you to quickly add new contacts and it allows you to block the buttons on the screen when you're in a call unless you want them. I'm hoping he can help me theme it. I attempted to port a VGA theme to QVGA but I've had lots of issues with it.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
He said yes! And he'll do it exactly as you want it

Man, this is good synchronicity. HTCtoucher PM'd me back... This is what he said: YES!

Ivan, this is great news.... I would P.M. him asap.... There are probably some other UI pieces he could help with too if it interested you.

/quicksite
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
by the way, Ivan, the dialer that comes with the ROM i currently use (Microlab's from PDAviet) has that pull down screen that blocks buttons against acccidemtal pushing. And it also uses a brand new "SAVE TO CONTACTS?" interface --- way better than Windows. I'll post some screen shots later. but it seems to be exactly what you are describing -- and it's already QVGA.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Yea, the dialer itself is already QVGA, but the skin isn't. It's the same dialer. I love it. That's AWESOME news, thought! I'll talk to him now!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ruebyi:
Great news!

Sorry for this Question: but could you solve the "bug" when Audiomanager and some other programs caused a bootloop?

would be great!

ruebyi
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Sorry, audiomanager won't be installed in the ROM, so I won't be looking at the bootloop bug to fix it.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ruebyi:
Ok, I'll test it :D hope it works... The only player with a fingerfriendly library... so far!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] unknown123456:
Did you ever consider Slide2Play aka S2P? After using Audio Manager for a decent time, I just took the widget off completely and launched S2P. It's also finger friendly.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ruebyi:
Well S2P is not supporting Playlists... And I like my WMP11 Playlists from PC and Synchronize them with WMP11 so I'm Using Mortplayer at the moment, but would like to see a fingerfriendly Player with a real Database like Mediaplayer Mobile.

the only one I found is Audiomanager....
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Just to let everyone know. There is a current freeze on the current alpha until our new themer creates everything that I need. (He's currently on spring break.)

When that gets back, I'll be releasing an Alpha release so that everyone can look over all the bugs before I start tweaking the programs that it includes (which at the moment, are set to all that I truly need...)

Then it goes Beta and if no other bugs are found, it goes release.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] elazullizard:
ooh yes, it sounds wonderful! Once this is complete, it will likely become the perfect Herald ROM! (that is, until windows mobile 7 comes out) I actually hadn't frequented the xda forums since I thought the Herald cooks had all left. what a relief! I hope to be able to beta (or alpha) test your ROM soon!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] elazullizard:
Also, Nitrogen is a new finger-friendly media player built specifically to support playlists.