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[G1 Android Development] Yorker10:
Just went through the hassle, again, of fixing my G1.

Anyways, here is what I find missing from using your Modded version of JF's ROM:

Music App can't find music

Pictures App can't display thumbnails of pictures. (You have to guess which is what...)

You can't download anything from the Browser.

Market force closes at times, mult. downloads lead to slow down, and some apps don't install.

These are pretty MAJOR for basic use of the G1. I would like some help with this........
[G1 Android Development] obe1:
Out of that list I encounter none do you have data on sd cardcause if it is try moving back to phone
[G1 Android Development] IRIE4IPIER:
works perfect. i was having alot of problems with this at first, but i did a wipe, and moved ONLT THE APPS. IF YOU MOVE DATA, YOU WILL HAVE PROBLEMS. AT LEAST I DID ANYWAY. other than that, works like a charm
[G1 Android Development] robpet2:
okay heres my paranoid question of the night.. i just did a wipe cause my gtalk was buggin.. do i need to do the busybox script again or just the copy.apps from the first post?
[G1 Android Development] free_man:
and look for one. U cannot bye directly from their

Well there is go to www.silicon-power.com and look for one. U cannot buy directly from their website but I found a guy on ebay who had 2 and I bought one. The other one was sold already. I will let u know in about 2 weeks when I will get it. The guy is shipping from Ireland.
[G1 Android Development] LucidREM:
i see .. released to the press just last week (3/3) .. that's gotta be a pretty steep price right now as far as cards go
[G1 Android Development] LucidREM:
if you are already running apps on the SD you have no need for the script files included .. but the modified update will keep your link intact without having to wipe the phone
[G1 Android Development] khoaitaychienvn:
hi, im using RC33 and I installed the update JF1.42 RC33 Modded apps to SD, then my phone started to get very unstable and finally I found myself waiting for the glowing on and off Android for nothing like some people here have met so I decided to reflash but it didnt help. So I wiped. Then everything came on like the first time I opened it up. I activated my G1 then installed some apps after that but all apps came to the internal memory. I went to Terminal to type the copy.sh... but it said copy.app not found. So i plugged the G1 in the comp and found out the memory card was regconized with Fat32 space only. I tried to use Paragon Patition (again) to tried to make it full back to normal without the EXT2 but that software couldnt see the EXT2 patition.

So Im stuck. Im using like normal without apps on SD, then I lose another half of my memory card. If I wanna use apps on SD car then it's not working.

So, just a word. HELP :)
[G1 Android Development] LucidREM:
sounds like when you wiped and flashed that you used the normal JFv1.42 and not the modified one .. maybe? the copy.sh script is there in mine but not JFs
[G1 Android Development] khoaitaychienvn:
Thank you for your quick reply. I got many JF with the mark MODDED for your ones, or maybe I just stuffed up. What im gonna do is downloading your version again to make sure I get the right one.

So u mean I just flash with your version, everything should be working with apps on SD, right?
[G1 Android Development] LucidREM:
if you wiped the phone the "ln -s" links will be gone .. but with my version of JF the EXT2 partition will load to /system/sd and the links can be redone
[G1 Android Development] Yorker10:
Still having problems after moving the data folder from SD card to phone. Lucid can you chat with me on GMail or something?!

EDIT: Everytime I post, and when you're on, you don't reply. I even sent a 2 PMs to you when you were online.......

EDIT: I apoligize, I'm grumpy because I'm sick and can become impatient at times. :D
[G1 Android Development] Stryder5:
Ah, I see. Does your mod also update my rooted RC30 to RC33 too and I'm done? or will I have to apply JF's regular update to get to RC33.

Basically does your mod just make sure our links don't get messed up while updating? or does it perform the update for us making sure our links don't get messed up? That's what I'm having a hard time understanding.

I'm confused about this statement as well, why do we need to follow this update in the link if we used yours?
[G1 Android Development] LucidREM:
this is the JF update.zip with all the "bells and whistles" with the three modifications to mount the EXT2 parition

1. modified init.rc

2. modified mountd.conf

3. folder /system/sd

this will update whatever version you pick (RC33/RC9/ADP) to the current JF version and also allow you to access the EXT2 partition .. if you HAVE links they remain intact .. if you do NOT HAVE links then you can run the script file i included to move the apps and create the link
[G1 Android Development] free_man:
so LucidREm u are saying that I shoud have no problems with my 16 gb 6 class card as far as moving apps to sd card right?
[G1 Android Development] free_man:
so LucidREm u are saying that I shoud have no problems with my 16 gb 6 class card as far as moving apps to sd card right? by the way It cost me $75 with shipping included.
[G1 Android Development] LucidREM:
just keep the EXT2 partition low .. 2G or less
[G1 Android Development] free_man:
perfect. I'll let u guys know in about 2 weeks or as soon as I get my card. Thx
[G1 Android Development] cvenk:
Lucid, Thanks you very much.

I did everythink as the forum says.

I had and europian verison 123099 - update to 126888 (or something) - downgrade to RC7 - ROOT IT- update it with yours JFv1.43_RC9.

"""Now I think I have Root - when i go to terminal emulator and put SU it puts me to #. adn if I enter WHOAMI it says someting id 0""""

When I entered android (FIRST THING) i entered your lines in terminal emulator:

$su

#copy.sh app

Now I checked my memory (I downloaded couple of programs) at goes from70 to 63 to 64 MB.

DO I HAVE APPS ON SD OR DON'T.?? I have no IDEA.

Donation was made - Thanks a lot LUCID
[G1 Android Development] Yorker10:
I really wish I could use this again without problems....I install a lot of apps. :(
[G1 Android Development] creid2352:
I don't know if this has been answered yet(looking through 41 pages is kinda..) but is there a program that will allow you to create ext2 partitions in Windows Xp?
[G1 Android Development] khoaitaychienvn:
I used Paragon Partition Mananger and it took me like 2 minutes to do so. Simple and quick. I even did it with my G1 plugged in as a card reader. :rolleyes:
[G1 Android Development] Autarkis:
If you do

$ su
# ls -la /data

you should get one line looking like this

lrwxrwxrwx 1 0 0 37 Mar 7 8:14 app -> /system/sd/app

or something like that. The important thing is that you get the directory /data/app and an arrow -> pointing to its new place on the SD card, I guess that's /system/sd/app but I don't really know which place LucidREM picked.

Hope that helps, I don't have apps on SD myself but that's just basic Linux stuff. :)
[G1 Android Development] creid2352:
Thanks, downloading now..
[G1 Android Development] Stryder5:
Thank you for clearing up all of that for me LucidREM.

I've successfully applied the update (had to download the file 3 times to get a working copy though). :D
[G1 Android Development] cvenk:
Thanks It worked. It appers that I have it!..

It was a long road.

NOW IF I WILL USE SOME KIND OF UPDATE IN THE FUTURE, WILL IT ERASE THE NEW FOLDER OR WILL IT JUST IGNORE IT, OR WILL IT WORK????.

Should I wait for Lucid Update , or could I update through google?
[G1 Android Development] Mikey:
"Update through Google"??

You lost that ability to update from Google, if you have root.
[G1 Android Development] LucidREM:
if you use JFs normal update.zip you will lose the apps to SD link .. if you wait for my modded JF update.zip you will retain apps to SD link

as for google .. by rooting the phone you've just traded in your BMW for a Viper .. when the OTA update comes with keys to the BMW it just won't work .. your only method of updates now come from JesusFreke
[G1 Android Development] cvenk:
Ok thanks, Now I think I'm all yours. Just waitning for your magic hands. :)

Tell me what about the skins update.zip. (if I want some new skin)

That will not be the problem I hope.!

p.s.

What about multi touch, I think I don't have it in this update.
[G1 Android Development] LucidREM:
SPL

so here's something i've been wondering .. how many people using the Apps on SD have loaded a different SPL and how many are just using the normal SPL the G1 was born with?

i have not modified the SPL and am wondering if this plays into anyone's troubles running Apps on SD and such .. just a thought
[G1 Android Development] cvenk:
I don't know what the hell is going on.

I have this when I put text in it.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/_VoXJbFZTXW-GYFlQk_vMA?feat=directlink

But I had 63MB internal memory, and I installed brain genius (3,6mb) I checked internal memory , and I had 59 Mb free space.

It appers that I have not Applications on SD card.

I installed JFv1.43_RC9 and put

$su

#copy.sh app

in my terminal emulator , telnet does not allowe me to connect to local host.

ANY THOUGHTS
[G1 Android Development] LucidREM:
when you install apps there is a portion of information put in /data/data that takes up space .. there is also other info stored from the apps .. so don't be alarmed when you see space dropping on the phone .. Apps on SD does not mean no space gets used on the phone
[G1 Android Development] jaminos:
weird error

due to somes reason, I make a wipe on my adp.

so data and app link has been reset so after register, I just do a copy.sh app and data. no error except a /system/sd/app is not adirectory error (is it normal) and after a reboot, it seems that my adp restart after the android logo and don't one to do anything. just loop on restart after the android logo ...

I don't know what to do ;(

any help appreciated.

thanks
[G1 Android Development] here.david:
check to see if apps on SD

I had to use....

$ su

# ls -la /data/data

not

$ su

# ls -la /data
[G1 Android Development] Stryder5:
Apps and cache moved to SD card with HardSPL on JF RC30.

Used yours to update to RC33 and works like a charm :D

One question though, are we safe in applying themes?
[G1 Android Development] mlevin:
Just a quick reply to this thread to let others out there know what I learned.

Initially, after rooting, I moved my apps (/data/app) to my sdcard via symlink. All was well. I also moved my caches to the sdcard.

Then when paid apps came out, I found I had difficulty installing them, so I moved/symlinked /data/app-private as well. Then everything worked again.

Since I have so much space for apps, I installed a LOT of them. Recently I started getting the "low on space" warning even though my sdcard had plenty of room.

I discovered that moving/symlinking /data/data to the sdcard resolved that problem.

Now everything seems to be good again :)

EDIT: At another user's suggestion, also moved /data/davlik-cache to clear up some space. That doesn't seem to have had any ill effects (at least not so far).
[G1 Android Development] LucidREM:
just so everyone knows .. the script "copy.sh app" moves both /data/app and also /data/app-private
[G1 Android Development] LucidREM:
i believe some themes require space on the system so you'd have to manually delete the audio files .. i haven't done themes but i've been reading others' posts .. to retain the audio files you might be able to move them to /sdcard and still access them on the phone
[G1 Android Development] free_man:
app on sd card plus debian instalation

is anybody there who is using LucidREM apps on sdcard flash and has also install debian with x? U need an ext2 partition to move apps on sdcard but u also need another ext2 partition to install debian as far as I know.
[G1 Android Development] creid2352:
Just installed the apps on the SD card. Works great. Didn't use Class 6 card and it worked fine. Question, once a new JF Update comes out will this kill my phone?
[G1 Android Development] Binary100100:
Was this question ever answered? I was going to post it but it's basically the same as my question. LucidREM? Anybody? I'm wanting to go from my 8gb to a 16gb.
[G1 Android Development] KPeriod:
Just installed this mod, everything seems to work okay.

What's weird though, I'm testing out how much space is left after I make some changes (i.e. install a new app from the market or uninstalling an existing app) and it doesn't seem to make sense.

For example, I downloaded a bunch of things from the market and my SD card data went down by about 20MB but my internal memory went down 1MB. Then I tried uninstalling a 7MB file and my SD card data went up like 40 MB.

Then I just tried installing a 6MB file and neither my internal nor SD memory budged at all. I rebooted the phone and still gave me the same readings.

I was reading the space on both the internal phone setting and the third party InfoDroid.

Any clues?

Thanks.

EDIT:

What else is weird, I was looking around in ASTRO and my sd card doesn't seem to have any data on it. i.e. the data folder is empty (and there is no sign of any of my installed apps). However my internal memory is 58MB and I have easily 30 - 40 MB of apps so they've gotta be somewhere!

Now I'm really confused. :S
[G1 Android Development] perdid0:
im not 100% on this but i believe all of the actual data from your apps is installed to your ext2 partition of your sd card. when you look at your file system through astro or windows, you are looking @ your fat32 partition only. basically 2 different drives. i don't believe there is a ext2 file browser. you have to use the terminal emulator.................again, don't quote me!

-P
[G1 Android Development] g1gangsta6604:
serious i couldnt wait to do this phone was so laggy i had so many apps now i can download half the market lol.. great job...i just wish there was a way to veiw how much space u have left on the ext without plugging in the usb...someone needs to dev an app asap...unless there is one already....but now if theres an update of jf versions im gonna loose the /system/sd folder.....?
[G1 Android Development] juangil:
of course there is a command to see your ext2 partition, this will show the used space using terminal:

su

ls -l /system/sd

or you can do:

su

busybox df:)
[G1 Android Development] KPeriod:
Thanks a lot, that makes perfect sense now. But why would my internal memory go down by 1mb after downloading a bunch of apps to my sd?
[G1 Android Development] perdid0:
i believe lucid said that some data from the app is put on internal memeory regardless of the fact that you have your apps moved to the sdcard.
[G1 Android Development] perdid0:
PREREQUISITE:

1. you rooted your phone:)

2. you created the FAT32 / EXT2 combo partitions:)

SPECIAL NOTE:

EXT2 seems to have problems bigger than 2G .. recommended not to exceed 1.5G .. 500M is actually more than enough for most people:)

MicroSD should be 2G/4G/8G class6 .. without class6 you should not bother moving apps to the SD:confused::confused::eek:​

i didnt read this part. i have a class 2 sd and my phone started acting like it was possesed around 3pm today. it was force closing everything. then it was blinking android from there on out. i am currently attempting to copy my sd card to another. any suggestions would be appreciated. lucid? help?:(

EDIT:

ok so here is what i have done so far.

tried copying the copy one sd to another (to check if it was the card giving me problems) BLINKING DROID

Tried nandroid flash. Still BLINKING DROID

wiped -system came back up

flashed lucidREM's MODDED JF build. Back to the (F@#$ing = BLINKING) DROID

some help would be nice :(

Edit:

Wiped

nandroid before lucidREM

updated to Lucid Rem through sdcard flash update.zip

reinstalled JUST APPS to SD.

went to app store and reinstalled from mydowload.

everything is back even my saved tags and my milage info! i love ANDROID (linux!)
[G1 Android Development] xdavidn88:
Hi, I want to put apps on my SD, so I ordered a 8gb micro sdhc class 6.

I was wondering which steps is required? Do I go up to the point that says Enjoy!

Or all the way down to where it says done!

Please refer to quoted material.
[G1 Android Development] KPeriod:
I'm having trouble reading the output of these commands.

The first one looks like it's telling me I have 3072 KB in app, 1024KB in app-private, 5120 KB in data, and 12288 in lost+found.

I know I partitioned about 460MB and I definitely have more than 20MB in apps on there so far so I'm not sure what these numbers are telling me.
[G1 Android Development] 85Mario85:
so you cant install themes on this??
[G1 Android Development] robpet2:
u can install themes.. i have used 2 so far with no problems.. the diamond them and gloss theme..
[G1 Android Development] :
Excuse my laziness, but this is 40+ pages long, I have a couple questions.

1. How do you flash back from this to have your apps back on your phone, or is this a kind of a point of no return, you would have to do a wipe and start over downloading all the apps you wanted.

2. Can I unpartition my card after I have partitioned it.

3. Thanks for you hard work and backing it up with the support needed.
[G1 Android Development] Ryanmo5:
1. run script in terminal - copy.sh undoapp - that puts apps back on main memory. Make sure you have enough storage space to do this first!!! Reboot. Obviously you wont need MOD version of rc33/adp1 so flash back to standard version of whichever one you use.

2. yes you can if your on windows like me i use HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool. http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=197
[G1 Android Development] aron4588:
can anyone help me, my 4gb got corrupted after moving and i won't work however i can see the files fat32 partition files and everything work. However i can't format, delete or write anything, delete the partiton, run chkdisk, or nuthin
[G1 Android Development] FuMMoD:
I'm not sure if this has been reposted here but I seem to have found a glitch with this. when i try to install applications lets say from the internet or anywhere not from the Market it doesn't allow me too, and it just runs the installer for the actual andriod system which is really weird. Does anyone know how to fix this so i can install 3rd party Apps that arn't from the Market. thank you.
[G1 Android Development] aron4588:
Work for me try using app manager on the market
[G1 Android Development] perdid0:
First make sure you have the. "Install apps from unknown sources" button checked. its in the settings manage applications.

Second download astro.
[G1 Android Development] :
Help

Ok I did what was in the first post now Im stuck on android looping screen what do I do?
[G1 Android Development] perdid0:
wipe, rinse, repeat! (j/k on the rinse though)
[G1 Android Development] LucidREM:
the parts after "Enjoy!" are all for the benefit of knowing what changed and when .. everything above that is the directions to follow
[G1 Android Development] LucidREM:
only guess i can throw out there is a partition problem on the SD
[G1 Android Development] acidulousreality:
So I finally got around to throwing RC33 on my phone and decided to use this one, and might I say Lucid you ROCK. I've been putting off updating because I didn't want to redo the apps to SD setup, and this made it ridiculously painless. Thanks man!
[G1 Android Development] :
Yeah it keeps going back to the android loop screen whenever I try and go through this process.
[G1 Android Development] Shane2:
I am having problems with this, I have partitioned the SD Card from within Ubuntu (768MB Partition, EXT2), and applied the RC9 update, and am having problems actually copying the files to the SD Card. I have uploaded a screenshot of the terminal app. Any ideas?
[G1 Android Development] Mikey:
From what i see.....

When you first typed $$SU.........you dont input the $ or # thats what your screen should show you.

so when you are at $ just type in su then if should follow with a #
[G1 Android Development] Shane2:
Ah yes, the SU whitelist popped up, thanks for the help

One more question, once I have done this will apps automatically install to the SD card, or do I have to move them everytime I install a new app?
[G1 Android Development] Mikey:
Is done automatically
[G1 Android Development] Shane2:
One more thing (lol) I noticed the apps I have installed no longer show as installed in the market, any way around that?
[G1 Android Development] Mikey:
Too my knowledge, no. Not yet at least. I may be wrong on this one lol

I think the market works multiple ways. It may use your account on the phone to keep track of what programs you installed (history). When it comes to actually checking your phone (I think it does) for versions, i wont find the apps cause they have been rerouted.

Just a guess on my part.
[G1 Android Development] Shane2:
Update on this... Reinstalling the apps solved the problem, without removing any user data. Is there any way I can check how much data space has been used on the SD card partition from within the phone?
[G1 Android Development] androidmonkey:
Are there any cons to moving apps to the SD card? Does it take longer to run apps? I have a 8GB class 6 card.
[G1 Android Development] Shane2:
The only con I found is having to re-install all my apps in order for the market to pick them up and detect updates again. My card is a (not sure what class) Sandisk 8GB SDHC card, and the average sequential read speed is about 4-5 MB/s, and all the apps I have tried so far work just as fast as they did previously off the phone
[G1 Android Development] androidmonkey:
Is there a way to have apps on SD without flashing the phone to JFvMOD? Is the instructions the OP posted mainly for someone that is rooting the phone for the first time and wants to install the update?
[G1 Android Development] xdavidn88:
Ok so the long part is the partition of ext2 on the sd card, it seems.

1) If I used the JF1.42 RC33, on the How to Root / Hack / Flashing G1... thread by Koush, do I still have to download the JFv1.42 RC33 above?

2) Once I have done that, I just go straight to my Terminal and enter those 2 lines to have my apps installed on the SD card?

3) Whats the difference between this thread and dwang's thread on how to run apps off the SD? Your thread takes much less work while dwang's requires much more coding.
[G1 Android Development] androidmonkey:
Early on in this thread a couple of people talked about symbolic links. Does the new update use symbolic links? What are the pros/cons? I haven't rooted my phone yet.
[G1 Android Development] Shane2:
No. The phone has to be already rooted for the update to be installed. There is a method to do it manually, but it is rediculously complicated, and as you can upgrade to the modded version with no loss of data there is no real reason to take the long and complex route
[G1 Android Development] androidmonkey:
Thanks Shane2, so this MOD actually gets installed over the standard JF update, I understand now.

What about my question about the symbolic links? Any ideas?