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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jeanne8fr:
You know about this program no? http://surf.to/metro

I like the look of yours better but these guys are a long way ahead.

Bon courage.

Jeannette
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbonzz:
already told :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] red_hanks:
I have been using METRO since the golden age of smart phone P910i. Over 300 cities are supported including what I am requesting here. But the user interface of Metro is kinda have the looks of wm2003, way to old, very confusing at first. City Advisor of x_silver looks promising and nice. Hope there will be more cities added because this will be very useful for those who travel a lot.

Here, I was able to get Manila Metro Map but it's in .pdb format. Maybe it can be converted to xml?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
1:32AM, you are so working hard :)

Ok, I've changed them, and will make comments on those limited texts.

Thanks, And it works!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbonzz:
3:17AM, you too aren't joking ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
make a little advertisement:

A new version will be released tomorrow night:

it includes

10 languages: English, French, Italian, German, Czech, Spanish, Dutch, Greek, Simplified Chinese and Traditional Chinese.

Two bug fix of Cityadvisor

Two improvement of MapCrator

Thanks to bbonzz for the new Italian translation and ancient translators, some of texts are copied from the translations for CA0.7;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] calculici:
Hello,

Very nice app. Works well on Eten X800.

I'll upload from home the map for Metro Bucharest in Romania and I will also do the translation to romanian language.

Thanx.

10x for the app
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TheGentAtXDA:
ARGH! Started on a map, but after I choose another line, editor asks me to save the current line, I choose yes and all data of that line are gone?! I'm on Win7, any idea?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
Maybe this will happen sometimes. I don't know the reason for now, but i will do some debugs. You can click on "save" button to ensure the modifications are saved, and to avoid this bug temporary.

I made map creator compatible with Excel, you can copy-paste line arcs from excel. So a better idea is to add arcs on Excel and paste them to map creator. I use this method to create lines, and i found it is faster.

This is an example:

Here we have a series of stations (a station a line):

I copy all of them to first column (column A) of Excel

Then I select from Station2 to Station 10, and paste them to 3rd (Column B) column

So on the excel, it will like

A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H
Station1	Station2
Station2	Station3
…
Station9	Station10
Station10

Column E, F, G are Distance, Time and Time for connecting.

When it is done, select all, copy and paste them on MapCreator.

I found this is faster than type/paste stations one by one
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
This is confirmed as a bug, and fixed by this version of MapCreator.

What's new in CityAdvisor 1.1.1.36

Released on 2010-03-09

* Multi-languages: English, French, Italian, German, Czech, Spanish, Dutch, Greek, Simplified Chinese and Traditional Chinese.

* Fixed a regression bug on My Favorites.

* Fixed a bug on no-logo lines.

* Some other UI modifications.

MapCreator 1.0.5.10 Released on 2010-03-09

* TimeTable Edit Improvement: Program will propose you the next item of the timetable;

* Line Editor: Bug fix when you entered some invalid data and changed the select line, modifications will lost;

* Combine station: in 'View Stations', you can select two or more line and combine them;

* Clean unused station: in 'View Station', you can clean automatically un-assigned stations.

To know the details about Map Creator, please view the attached document MC1.0.5.10.pdf.zip in 2nd POST
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TheGentAtXDA:
Great, now all works. I started on Düsseldorf / Germany, you might list all cities in progress in your first post so people see if a city is started ...

Maybe work can be shared or avoided ...

One Problem: I have two lines, both are sometimes sharing one track, because they obviously hit the same stations.

Example:

Line 1: Stations Z Y X D E F O P

Line 2: Stations A B C D E F G H

If I want to go from A to H, CityAdvisor does not recognize that when I sit in Line 1, I should stay there. It says "Go Line 1 from A-D, then go to Line 2 from D-F, then Line 1 from F-P", although Line 2 would do fine all the time.

Maybe because it prefers the lower line number?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] laureus:
the app looks great.

i tried to do a map for frankfurt am main, germany but i cant figure out this map creator.

i added a new line. now what?

do i have to click "edit stations" and add all the stations or do i add stations in the right windows. either way i dont get i right.

do i have to add every station manually or can i somehow copy and paste multiple lines?

is the distance in meters?

what do time and timeconnecting mean?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
In algorithm, yes CA scans all possible arcs from lower LineId to higher LineId.

In this case, we have 3 possible solutions:

1. check if arcs D->E, E->F in line 1 takes same time in line 2

2. check the frequence of Line1 and Line2 are not 0

3. most important set TIME_CONNECTING to a positive number: 2 minutes or 3 minutes on each interchange station. because it takes time.

For sure, you can try to search from A to H with Line1 disabled, to see if it takes same or more time.

if this problem persist, you can send me the map sample to do some investigation.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
When a new line added, you can start entering arcs in Arc Editor

you don't have to add all stations, just enter them on the arc editor on the right, when you save, all new stations will be automatically created and assigned to a StationId

you can copy/paste data from/to Excel with the right format:

Station1 ID1 Station2 ID2 Distance Time Time_Connecting

the distance is in meters - but this data is not used for now, just reserved for futher -> set them to 300 for exemple

Time is the time need to move from Station1 to Station2.

Time_Connecting means the time of interchange from a train to another train in the same station(Station2), this value is used only for interchange stations. for other stations, set a positive value, maybe oneday it will become interchage station.

I'll write a doc to explain how CA works and how to use MC
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TheGentAtXDA:
Example: Create a line, name it 701, destination means where the line ends. Then start in the right part of the window with the station where the line starts and then the second station. IDs are created autmatically. Then insert how long the train needs from station one to station two. copy station two and paste into second line as station one. go on till last station where line ends. If you have more questions, ask!

Edit: Oh, x_sliver was faster ... o.=,
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] laureus:
Thanks guys.

i am currently working on the frankfurt subways. i have 3 lines out of 7 in an excel table now and it is already getting intense.

there are so many exceptions in the timetable. at some times they do not stop at stations where they normally stop and on saturday and sunday timetables differ again.

man, its gonna take years. ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
Well, we don't need to respect all the exceptions because we will pass much more additional time on little additional value. To the frequent lines, very 5 or 10 minutes a bus/train, we don't need to add the full timetable, just range and frequency will be Ok, for the not frequent lines and night shifts, the timetable is more valuable.

at least here, the bus never respects the timetable:o, so i decide to add timetables only for night buses (one half an hour) and less frequent trains in my map.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TheGentAtXDA:
Yep, german subways, at least here in my town, run twice on 5AM, then run like five or six times in rush hours, then again run less frequent in the eve again. Plus you got exceptions on fridays, sats and suns and you also have the summer holiday exceptions. They even have like: "This train runs from 9-5 from A2Z, but from 5-11pm it only runs from B2Y". Argh! Even the regular customers don't understand some of those rules.

To make it short: A complete 24h time table and date exceptions (holidays etc.) would be really necessary if people will pay for this in the future. They won't use it when it's not planning accurately, I'm afraid. Even if it gets more complicated, you must realize a 365 day ("runs not on dec. 24th" etc.)/ 24 hour timetable, please!

Edit: It would really help if you can automatically insert content from "Line1 - ToStation" to "Line 2 - From Station". Should be editable, but auto-insert would save much time. Know what I mean?

To make it clear: I love your app, I love your energy, go on. Great work! And the UGC will rise for sure! Please add "Cities under development" in post 1, so noone starts twice.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] laureus:
i totally agree with TheGentATXDA.

as mentioned before public transportation time tables have a lot of exceptions but still i would like my map to be as accurat as can be. cause foremost i am working on this to have a suitable travel planning tool for me in this city. (but this way everybody profits)

90% of the time busses, subways etc. are in time and germans have that thing about accuracy you know. ;)

so please please find a way to add exceptions.

you have already done a great job. keep it on!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TheGentAtXDA:
And d'you have a blank city icon so we can make up one? Or should we send you something you can use? Should be all the same making it look professional ... :rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
You guys are working so seriously :D

I'm now working on thess features:

Automaticlly insert "Line1 - ToStation" to "Line 2 - From Station" (the one you recommanded)

Create a line by importing a list of stations.

For the exceptions about morning from A to Z and evening from B to Y, you can create 2 lines which have the same line name and have different time tables (or timerange).

(for all exceptions while the route or stop changes, we have to create another line... at least now i have no better solution. :( )

but for different TimeTable on the week-days/week-end and on normal days/holidays, i'm trying to find out a solution easy and efficient.

When i got one, we can do some discussion.

About the blank icon, I have one, I can upload this evening when i get home, you can use it when want.

you can also send me the pic to make a gray style icon.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TheGentAtXDA:
Yeah, that's german genetics I guess. :rolleyes: Let's put it that way: Once your progrtam turns out to be succesful, you make it an app peeps have to pay for and those who submit a complete city get lifetime free updates. That's fair ... um, err, to me then. :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
here we are! i attached two icon on the first post:

one is a blank border

another is cityadvisor icon

hope that helps.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
A new version of MapCreator is released, 1.0.6.11

The download link remains the same.

this is a small update release:

1. Automatically fill the start station name on a new row -> when entering an new arc, start station will be filled as the end station of the previous are

2. some bugs found on reload/refresh

3. Map description is changed, now it accepts multi-line -> to adapt the change of City Advisor

4. Build-Date becomes a Read only value, when you save the map, this value is automatically updated

EDIT: Map creating indicator was added to the first post.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] holdz:
Thanks for the great program, I haven't been able to find a timetable application that does this, so great work.

Also thanks for updating the Map Creator, I'm in the process of making a timetable for Melbourne.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mike2nl:
Very interesting. I will test it on the weekend to see what are the possibillties. Report later
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] scottmo:
City Please

Hi,

This looks like really useful software!

I'm not really up on the whole map creation thing. Is there anyone out there who can help me out with a map / inoe for GLasgow, UK?

Your help will be a great aid to myself and my wife! :)

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
This city is added on the first post. Expect to your map ;)

Well, a full city that needs a month of work or more. I'm willing to create every city, but i have to finish my current map and continue update CA and MC. Please to be patient, we have to eat a bread piece by piece:)

Seems i found the problem: when you create a blank map and create the first line, this problem will occur. i will update CA this evening, with this bug fixed :( and a new feature.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
MapCreator 1.0.7.12 Released on 2010-03-15

* Create a line by importing a list of Stations: Click on the button "Import" to see it.

* Create a line by importing the CSV text of Open Street Map format

* Bug fixed when creating the first line of a map - Thanks to laureus@XDA

Well i have now time to add Auto Update feature to MapCreator (some web services to create).

but update it as well because there is a bug (which blocks laureus:))

Two new features are added, easier to create a line if you have a list of stations (mostly can be found on operator's website)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] marasp:
hi there...this beautiful piece of programming is over 1 year old and there is still London missin'!!! this only shows how big that b**ch is ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] marasp:
just tried to install newst version but seems that whatever I download is either corrupted or unable to install...any idea what might be wrong? I tried all download mirrors :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sid0101:
wow, I can't believe no one requested a NYC Map yet....

Anyway - here's to adding one of the largest subway systems in the world to this incredible application.. Cheers.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
First, sorry for the inconvience.:(

I'll have a look this evening, can you please give me some details for identifying the problem.

What is the size of downloaded file?

Rename the file .txt, is there any error message in the file or just binary?

-> text or html code: there is something wrong in the download script

-> binary: the download has been reset before finished (connection does not stable)

Which browser you are using?

Do you use a Proxy?

Thanks in advance for you info.

PS: I found this morning that auto download does not work while using IE7 + Proxy

-> I need to click on the link instend of waiting 5 seconds to start auto download.

does anyone who faces the same problem?

Edit: Auto-Download removed, no more problem on IE8 + firefox.

I knew some guys were talking about creating a london underground. I don't know their progress. but yes, all megacities are big and complexe, even my paris map doesn't have now a complete version ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] daywalker72:
Frankfurt map

Interesting someone else is trying to create a map for Frankfurt, too. I've created one for me with trams, busses, subway and S-Bahn. I didn't published it because it isn't 100% correct and complete because of that many exceptions and special timetables. It is really hard work.

May be you can use mine as a template. If you want I can mail it to you.

bye

daywalker72
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] laureus:
Yeah, I would be interested in this map. When did you create yours?

i am having trouble testing my map. CA crashes when loading it. Gonna post error report later cause i am short on time at the moment. 2weeks of vacation start tomorrow.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
What? CA crashes when loading??? :(

you'd better send me the file to do some investigation.

By the way, i've just fixed a critical memory leak problem, and did a performance test on bbonzz's full Milan map which has hundreds of lines. there seems no more memory leak.

will update later this evening.

and have a good vacation -> when you come back, i will start mine;)

EDIT: NEW RELEASE:

What's new in CityAdvisor 1.1.2.55

* A Critial memory leak bug was fixed.

* Memory optimization.

* Add Romanian language support - Thanks to Calculici.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hendrixus:
Great thanks. Before I used the Paristravel guide. It is text-based.Sightseeing.

http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-paris-travel-guide-v1-0.html
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
Release of MapCreator 1.0.8

MapCreator 1.0.8 is released:

Friendly Station reference info.

you can now see in "Edit Stations" not only the references but also the referenced Line Names. This will help you to judge whether the stations are ok or not.

Update checking

you can now check the updates of MapCreator on Help->Check for Update

Import "need save" flag bug

The need save flag is now marked, when you import a line and select a different without clicking the Save button, arcs imported will be lost -> This bug is fixed in this version.

Known issues:

In "Edit Stations" windows, you must click on save button to confirm the changes of the station. if you click on Combine and Clear button, all modifications will lost.

to avoid this bug, Please always click Save button when you edit stations.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] holdz:
Thanks for another update.

Just wondering,with the map creator is their any chance that you could include the ability to state which platform trains/trams may depart from?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
In MapCreator, there is a way to do it if the depart platform is regular and be stated:

while a Station is a logical object, which can be divided to "Station A Plateform 1", "Station A Plateform 2" and "Station A Plateform 3",

you could assign these stations on the different line and create 6 WALK_CONNECT arcs between them:

Platform 1 -> platform 2

Platform 2 -> platform 1

Platform 1 -> platform 3

Platform 3 -> platform 1

Platform 2 -> platform 3

Platform 3 -> platform 2

for WALK_CONNECT, their Time_Connecting = 0, Time = the time neened to move from one platform to another.

There will be N * (N-1) additional WALK_CONNECT arcs to be added, so a lot of work :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] holdz:
Thanks for the reply. I'll add the platform number to the station name. The walk_connect sounds quite complicated.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
yes, the principal is simple but the realize is complex:

connect from same station (station id) is automatic.

connect from different stations (which they have a different id) is passed by WALK_CONNECT

with this principal, we can have different implementations, here is an alternative one:

Create 4 Stations : A, A Pf1, A Pf2, A Pf3

and create these WALK_CONNECTs

A -> A Pf1

A -> A Pf2

A -> A Pf3

A Pf1 ->

A Pf2 ->

A Pf3 ->

When you have many platforms, this method generate less arcs (2 x N)

hope this can reduce your work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] LDjack:
Hi,

I just tried to install the new release 1.1.2 after dowloaded the cab file.

I go t an error message indicating that installation failed on my device (HTC HD2, windowmobile 6.5 pro). (Actually it seems that it did not start properly by requiring authorisation ?)

I attempted to uninstall the 1.1.1 release, but again I got the error message.

I installed back the previous release.

What's wrong ?

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] shu8i:
HTC HD2: Installation of City.....cab was unsuccessful.

im not able to install it :S
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hanackin:
same problem here on the HD2 of a friend :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
I have a tp2, i tried with my phone. when i install v1.1.2, it said i need to uninstall the old version. then it does and installs the new one.

There are some security setting problems with Touch HD2? :o

I just repackaged them, nothing changes.

Let's try this: uninstall v1.1.1,

delete manually the City Advisor folder in \Program Files\ or \Storage Files\Program Files. if exists

delete manually the folder \Windows\AppMgr\x_Slive CityAdvisor if exists

then try to install v1.1.2

If the problem persists -> i have to do something to sign my package

or an Alternative solution -> download zip version

it's weird when some phones do not have a security warning dialog but directly pass failed...

Before this problem resolve, you could download the zip version. i will get some install/uninstall test on my TP2 and Diamond

EDIT:

I saw some other HD2-not-work cabs, even microsoft cabs.

i've seen this on a post, may be you can try:

uninstall hebrew support, then install marketplace, install hebrew support again - worked for me.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] vigin:
Couldn't install with a cab file as well on my HD, zip file did the job though :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CartmanKD:
Hi,

It would be nice if other than the arrival time would show how many minutes from now left before arrival. For me this is a very important function, and I'll be very grateful if you make it in the next version of yours program.

Thank You.

PS And in the time table (LineInfo) should be include time of departure on the weekends.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sabamimi:
Install error + a question

Hi there,

Trying a fresh install from the cab :unsuccesfull (does not start)

(Unit Acer S200 WM 6.5 Pro)

Installed via the zip and run OK : Very nice application !

One quick question:

What kind of HTC "like" SDK did you use to develop CityAdvisor?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
Not all searchs are "Immediate Search", so its hard to show it. but the result window will be re-organismed, it is a good advice when did a "Immediate Search"

For the Time Table for Week-end (even any other special days), it is planned.

I'm trying to do a repackage using another software to face these "CAB can not install" problems, will release a test Cab package for this.

I didn't use any SDK other than pure .NET CF, for engine: C++.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
I don't know whether the installation failed can be fixed with the following instructions, I tried to digitally signed the .cab file and all executables:

1. download and copy the certificate x_sliver.cer (in x_sliver.zip) in your device and then launch it.

2. download and copy the attached cityadvisor.cab file and install it on the device

3. IF IT DOES NOT WORK, download and install x_sliver_cert.cab in the device and reinstall the cityadvisor.cab

Warning: this cab contains an unreleased and (may be) an unstable version of cityadvisor, it is ONLY used to TEST CAB INSTALLER.

Can anyone try this who has faced the .cab installation failed (HTC HD2, ...) ? Thanks in advance if i can get some reports.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sabamimi:
Install test results

Hello x_sliver,

using steps 1+2 worked for me :)

Cheers!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
Thanks for your test.

Seems the installation failed is caused by Security Settings of particular phones.

I'll sign my programs and cabs with the certificate and deliver this certificate.

once the certificate is installed, it will be valid for all signed cabs :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sabamimi:
well, sound strange to me since I do install/test a lot of software and that the first time I face this "certificate" requirement.....

...just my 2 cents logic....

Thanks for sharing this nice looking application.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
What's new in CityAdvisor 1.1.3.56

* Reorganized Advanced Serch window.

* Can set a station to be avoided as a transfer station.

* The cab and exe were signed to avoid installation failed
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sabamimi:
Installation of CityAdvisor.1.1.3.56.cab was unsuccesseful

Hello x-Silver

:( installation error

I tried :

1. uninstalling the previous version.

2. installing the new certificate manually

This installation error is not over yet....