yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
I don't believe I am -- just wanted to get stock Android working. Given that though, I think you're right. I'll look into getting the Cupcake distro going when I get home.

I haven't been using that distro, but I have been referencing that page a lot for tips on getting it all working. Also, that GSM module looks very interesting...I know we have a GSM device available now in the image we have, and it seems to respond, but I haven't played much with it.

As for the porting effort, I have some great news to report: Android runs! I can get the graphical interface up and even navigate around a bit (very limited). Touch screen support is missing right now, and limited keyboard support. Also, it crashes a lot. But it comes up and is at least somewhat usable!

I'm going to try and focus on getting the touch screen working tonight (I think there's some kernel mods I may need to make), and I'll post updated install images when I can get to them. But I can say, what little I do have working is fast -- the interface is very responsive and it loads up in about 20 seconds.

More to come.

-d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I finally got around to installing the linux image you created (the original) but while booting, the screen goes white and stays white. I haven't had a chance to find out why, though.

Other than that, it's awesome to hear that not only do you have it working but you also have it running FAST. Is this Android 1.0 or the Android on the G1? (The GUI that is.)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
It's Android 1.0, straight from their SDK.

I used to see the "white screen of death" when I first started playing with other people's kernels...I'm wondering if there's just a slight variation in hardware from mine to yours.

Are you running a T-Mobile Wing, or an actual HTC Herald?

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Tmobile Wing.

The only different in hardware should be the keyboard driver...

Maybe it's the partitioning?

Is root=/dev/mmc/blk0p3 calling sdb3?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
Yeah, partition three on your SD card (under linux with card reader, it would be /dev/sdb3).

My guess is that isn't the problem if you're seeing a white screen. If it where, you'd get a kernel panic when it tries to mount, but the white screen happens before that.

You might try booting it a couple of times. Sometimes I find that it doesn't work the first time, but the second or third time it does.

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I've tried a few times. (5 or 6 times now) and I've got nothing.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
Hmm...Can you try with the android kernel? Just replace the zImage2 from Part 1 with that from part 2 and try again.

-d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
It failed again.

I wonder if something in the ROM is causing problems with it? I was about to flash a new ROM that I'm working on right now anyways, so I'll try again after that.

EDIT: Now I can't flash using the SD card, either. Either I accidently didn't use FAT32 for the partition or the partitioning itself is causing problems.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
eek! Yeah, I would suspect all other things equal, either your ROM is causing it, or there's something just different enough about our two phones...Can't imagine what though. Your ROM doesn't do anything unusual involving the video, does it? Also, is the white screen a fade-in after some words scroll by, or does it go immediately white, with no scrolling words?

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
The ROM won't load because of an error in my part, I think, but as far as linux goes, it get to the word WIZARD before it goes to white.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
As in "HTC WIZARD" all on its own line? That's before the kernel even loads, still in HaRET. It really sounds to me like it's the ROM then -- or else your kernels are somehow getting corrupted on download, or when HaRET reads them...

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I'm working on a new ROM. Unfortunately, it seems that I have lost my touch when it comes to porting ROMs, though.... lol But as soon as I get something, I'll be testing this again.

What ROM are you running right now?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
I'm actually running the one that originally came with my phone. I've managed to hack it enough to be very comfortable and fast for my needs. Plus I'm a little nervous about doing any kind of firmware updates, especially on a device this expensive :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ValdikSS:
I have white screen of death too, with linwizard and android kernels
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
I posted a new kernel for you all to try on the other thread -- I'm hoping it'll fix the white-screen issues some of you are having:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3335210&postcount=178

Just so you're all aware, I'm moving all the development materials to the new sourceforge web site:

http://wing-linux.sourceforge.net

The 0.1 release posted there contains a complete image with Android pre-installed along with the latest kernel (not the one above). I'm working on getting all the source code moved into a repository for us -- importing the Linux kernel source takes a while ... :)

Lemme know what happens (if you could, in the other thread -- most of the Android talk is going on there. Even better would be on the forums in the sourceforge page :P)

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
Major congrats for getting as far as you have so far. Again, this project was written off as "impossible", and I love to see "impossible" shattered :) Please keep us posted from time to time.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] smokeingit:
i dont believe anyone said it was "impossible", the general consensus was that we would not see a viable working OS / Phone. I just hope im wrong and that this project will be more then just a toy..... I hope it can be a alternative to WM 6. I of course dont see this happen because of hardware limitation, but i can only hope for the best. I can tow a boat in my 280z, but its not going to do the job as good as something built for the weight.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
Hah! The ultimate irony! He who fearlessly takes on running linux on WM device -- is nervous about hacking the rom of his own phone! I love this, bro' ... just cracks me up. It's like Indiana Jones being terrified of snakes! :D
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
:) Yeah, well, ROM updates are a little more permanent. With my luck, I'd just brick my phone. At least with this Linux stuff there's little chance of that happening.

Besides, snakes are scary!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
I frikkin HATE snakes ! But with the trend of phone device names getting all dark and foreboding, I predict we will soon see the release of the ultra-scary phone, the HTC Snake ...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] expone:
To get access to Linux on HTC by using Windows on PC you can install this:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2162449&postcount=32
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] expone:
Hello Together!

On my HTC Herald, I get the android-boot-screen. But no other screen since over one hour.

It is normally? ;=)

During this screen, I can log in via ssh to the bash. The "top"-command print out the following:
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
What kernel / root filesystem image combination are you using? If you're just seeing the android boot endlessly, it sounds like you're running an older kernel that doesn't have the Android patches installed.

There's a bunch of kernels posted in the later posts of the other thread that should work.

Sigh, I wish I had more time lately to work on this...

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] expone:
I had used the linux install of this post in one of past versions...

But, I had the linux-kernel exchanged trough the current android-kernel, that linked in first post from you.

With this current android kernel, I had runned HARET and log in into the linux system. I had transfered the current Root-FS and System-FS from first post via HARET and extract them to /android. At the finish, I has copied the start_android-script to /bin and I has changed the permissions of this script. After this step, I has tried to run android (start_android)...

I had to described the result in my last post ;)

Do I understand you correctly? Here are not the current kernel? Where can I get them else?

Best regards,

expone
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
The latest and greatest was posted towards the end of the thread here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=398830

I'm going to try and collect everything together into a 0.2 release fairly soon so I can point everyone at that. Right now it's just a mess of files splattered across the internet :P I'd like to be able to release the Angstrom distribution I built too, but I gotta see if that's possible. Might need to wait for a 0.3 release.

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
hey darkstar, a ZOOM-OUT question

I've been thoroughly impressed by your determination to get Android on Wing/Herald, as well as the cooperative effort to make this happen. Especially when it was scoffed at here 6-9 months ago. My fascination has been the "never say never" approach to layer by layer solving the roadblocks to linux on wing, and then android on linux.

So, here is my BIG PICTURE question. I'm an end-user, not a developer. And so I want to throw this out to you: (A) Are you driven mostly, right now, by "the quest" to make it work -- which is way cool in and of itself ! -- Or (B) are you hoping for/ intending for end users like me to actually get to point of being able to run android on our Wings -- in more than just a "we did it!" kind of way? Meaning: enabling a potentially better overall phone/PPC user experience than WindowsMobile, through the various benefits of the Android OS/platform/user interface/feature-set...?

For me, I would be thrilled just by (A).... (B) would be godly.

BIG PICTURE QUESTION #2: What other "Android on Windows Mobile Phones" projects are going on here at XDA that you know of? (on the other phone-specific forums). Are y'all collaborating in any way? If so, then there could be a (C) end goal: Get it working on a Wing first, perhaps because that's the phone you have.. but then moving toward an XDA quest to maybe enable Android, and linux, on any Windows Mobile device that has some baseline specs y'all have determined?

I just love the adventure, even watching from the sidelines.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I'm not him, so I can't answer #1, but I think I can elaborate on #2. Each and every device on XDA's is slightly or sometimes VERY different. Even amongst the Wing/Herald, there are slight differences. This means that there could never be one version that would work with all devices. Just like there can never be a windows mobile ROM that works with every device, unfortunately. It'd be nice to have an installation script that installed a compatible installation on EVERY device, though... but that is far far far beyond at the moment.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
My ultimate end goal would be to have Android as a viable alternate operating system for my phone. This includes everything I can currently do with WM -- phone, bluetooth, wifi, internet, messaging, etc., plus the Android app store. For me, the "We did it!" moment came when I was first able to start Android on my phone. I want it working, and I want it working WELL. And I want to be able to share that with all other Wing users out there.

As for your second question, there's a bunch out there. The Linwizard project is porting Linux over to the HTC Wizard, and I know there's been some work on Android. The HTC Vogue has a working Android installation and community behind it. I've only really been talking with the linwizard group though, as the HTC wizard is the closest of the projects I know of in hardware specs to our wings (actually, it was their kernel that allowed me to first boot into Linux on my phone). They don't really have an end goal of Android though. I think collaboration is great, but like ivanmmj said, our phones are all very different. I've been seeing cases where Linux boots perfectly on my phone (and about 50% of everyone elses), but the other 50% get white screen problems. Same model numbers, same everything. I think your idea is great, and optimally that would be what we'd want to do, but getting there is a lot harder than that. Plus also, it's harder to contribute when you don't have the device yourself :)

That being said, I think there's a lot we can learn from seeing how other projects are doing things. Never hurts to look. :)

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
That's great. That's what I was hoping but one can't assume. You're doing phenomenal work. I mentioned on these android-related threads 4-5-6 months ago that the guy who designed the G1 phone (device and interface) for Google lives in my neighborhood, is very nice guy, and I think he would find it really cool that someone got android to run on a windows mobile phone.

I see. That makes perfect sense given ROMS just for windows mobile being so super-specific to phone device.

Understood. Ultimately, where my head's at is: you have a device -- and you have "desired functionality"... And if that functionality can be had by using windows mobile OS and apps, then so be it. And if it takes running android to get the desired functionality, I am not the least bit loyal to an operating system, especially windows being so dand slow in its development cycles.

That said, the one thing the guy from Google said that gave me pause was this: I told him that I had assumed that once Google got inot the OS game with Android, and it worked really well, that it was slowly going to be "game over" for windows mobile, and they would start to lose market share worldwide. But what he said surprised me. he said "i wouldn't count on that." When I said "but isn't android going to be the chief competitor to apple's mobile OS?", he said "the iphone caught the sleeping giant off guard. What we're seeing now from windows mobile (ie 6.5) is nothing like what they now have in development." he said they were never going to let this happen again, and that there next stuff in the stream is really great. .. I never expected someone from google to actually say that -- unless it was really true.

So it's all very interesting
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
We just started up a new IRC channel on freenode.org: #wing-linux. Check it out!

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] moondoggy17:
the chips
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] aerovolce:
I thought we were on version 0.4pre3? Or does this refer to another part of winglinux
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
Yeah, we are -- that post is old. :)

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Foalyfr:
Hello,

I want to install Android on my HTC Touch (cpu OMAP850) with this tutorial, thanks to the authors. I first tried by only running Haret with others files on ms root (not repartitionned), abvioulsy that's not work, i get a "kernel panic - not syncing : VFS: unable to mount root FS on unknown-block" error. I want to follow the tut entierly but a link is dead (the second), and i can't get the files. Can you repost them?

Else, I have a question : I understood that Haret load Android in RAM without touching to WM, is it the case of this method too? Can i return on the original system by reseting/reformating ms?

Thanks in advance,

Foaly
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ashasaur:
These are NOT the Touch forums...sooo, little help to be had here. But your question lies within the search button....
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Foalyfr:
Ok, I'm a bit lost in names, so i searched one with the same cpu. It seams like mine is same as the Elf, so i found that : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=554479 (if someone else is interested)

Tanks for response
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] enatefox:
Hey, this thread seems more active. I was just given a free Wing to play with and I want to get Android for this phone caught up to where we're at for Kaiser and Vogue. I've been helping develop it on those phones for over a year now. We have camera, wifi, data and GPS (for Cupcake) working. The phones are almost the same.

I will start looking into the drivers and see what I can do. There is no reason I can see that we can't have this all working. I'll keep you posted. Anyone with kernel experience, hit me up so we can speed things along.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
You should join us on #wing-linux and #linwizard on freenode -- we're working right now to get mainline kernel.org kernels working with our devices (we're currently based on an aging 2.6.25 kernel). Once we have that, we should be able to get sound and wifi working (we hope!). But, we could always use more hands!

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] enatefox:
I haven't forgotten this but T-Mobile is not letting me unlock the phone so I'll keep trying
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] numaverick:
is possible have something like this, someday for wing?

sense in vogue..

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=665139

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/new-android-build-with-sense-2-1-available-for-vogue/
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] imanh:
hi

I found out that this file has ben deleted , i got 404 error

To start out with, here's what you'll need:

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[*]Root filesystem contents (.tar.gz, 13.1mb)

[/LIST]
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] onr_yvcn:
hi

link not working help me pls

Root filesystem contents (.tar.gz, 13.1mb)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Liath:
Holy crap! This would completely and totally rock if Android could work stable and fast on the wing! WM has been irritating the crap out of me lately!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Distrbd21:
Man i know what you mean android on my wing would be badass, i just put android on my moms bfs htc hd2, and it is badass way better then windows mobile.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Liath:
My only worry is that the herald's weak omap200 just won't have enough power to run android well. It barely runs WM well half the time. There isn't a whole lot of memory on this thing either.

Also, just out of curiosity, will having a swap partition that is probably going to get used a lot going to quickly kill sd cards?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] sander407:
Question about Phone

Works Great on P4350 but no phone function? or is this fixed already.

and also no sound?

is would be great if those problems where fixed

and runs not realy fast but stable

realy want to use it but whitout a phone funcion it isnt realy usefull

hope to hear.

============EDIT===============

OK got the phone working but still no sound when calling or getting called and any system notification sounds

hope this is getting fixed soon cause really want to use it as standaard OS

Good Luck and great making so far
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] anako7:
Giving away my i-mate, had it for 4-5 years, ordered from expansys back then, unlocked, repaired 3 years ago after sinking it (new parts & upgrades), still working but old, I guess for parts if someone still uses these phones and needs smthg. PM me! Cheers!

If you are in my area, I will meet with you and give the phone, the box and everything that goes with it to you. But I am not investing my time and $$$ shipping this thing to the other side of the world, ok...it is not worth it to me.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] Stevo.Mksr:
check yout PM
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] baal_zebub:
hello,

my flexcable that connects the keyboard to the mainboard is broken. i'd like to have another one - so i could use my keyboard again.

you have one ?

i'm also interested in a BA-camera if i can get it for a few bucks.

thanks!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] anako7:
Hey, I did not take my phone apart, so I have no idea how the flexcable looks and I am not going to take this thing apart or charge money for it. If you want to do it yourself, take the whole thing and play with it on your own.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] baal_zebub:
hey, ok, i'll take the whole thing. of couse i can take appart by myself.

can you send to europe by post ? of couse i pay for postage.

thank you.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] singer12:
hi i am very interested for this phone.i had it but then i broke it accidentally and i was very sad...sooooooooo please put me in the list.

i wasnt too lucky in the previous give away contest lol

But i am starting to like this forum.the users give away their mobiles for free:)

bye ebay LOL

ps i live in london
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] red_hanks:
hmmmm true or not true I would like to be on the list. My BA is dying on me and I need to replace some parts of it. So people, vote for me, text 1-800-BA-RedHanks. LOL :D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] anako7:
Somebody asked me already about them arranging overseas pickup. If it works with them, the phone will fly to Europe..whoever gets their pickup guys to my office first...Have a nice day!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] red_hanks:
I will pay you $10 for that :D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] anako7:
No, thank you. I would not take any money for it. I am blessed with other, more abundant streams of income :D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] red_hanks:
So let me have it..:D $10 for the shipping and unlimited supplies of thank you's from me :D :D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] orb3000:
Hi anako7

I am interested on your donationof BA, hope I can be considered for this noble action form you.

Thanks in advance
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] red_hanks:
consider me please... :)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] Epicardium:
Hi there,

I see you live in the Houston area. I am in the DFW metroplex, and would love to get my hands on the freebie...if it's still available. What will it take? Thanks in advance.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] jennifersaurya:
blue angel

thanks for sharing the information
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] XeneRoX:
Would you be able to do ground shipping (I live a state away from you) and then I can mail you the money it cost you for shipping it?

Really need one of these :-(
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] egzthunder1:
I am also interested in this. I live in Miami, FL so I could pay for the shipping if you are willing to give it to me. Mine has survived all of my jobs so far (in heavy manufacturing plants) but it is beginning to show it's wear and tear.... poor thing is 4 years old as well... that would be like 60 in human years :) Thank you for the opportunity :)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] Mnemonique:
I'm interested with this too, can it be shipped at El Cajon, Ca.

woooot

:D
[G1 Android Development] haykuro:
Just out of curiosity, how would one go about "virginizing" a rooted G1.

My best bet would be restoring using the RC28 DREAIMG.NBH right?

If not, a more "manual" method, would be to restore using a stock RC30 update, wipe the phone, restore the original recovery image, and finally restore the original SPL.

right?
[G1 Android Development] neoobs:
Yea both should work. But why?
[G1 Android Development] Ardic:
It makes sense to me that there would be a step-by-step stickied post detailing the vigrinizing of a G1, in addition to all the "rooting your G1" information.
[G1 Android Development] haykuro:
If the case comes up that one would need to return the device to HTC or T-Mobile, you can't present a rooted G1 :p
[G1 Android Development] savethechicken:
All that you have to do is flash back to RC29 or 28 using the dreaimg.nbh through bootloader. it flashes completely removes all custom splashes and bootloaders. I just did a replacement and this is what I did works perfect
[G1 Android Development] neoobs:
Actually you can. In the FCC rules it states that we are allowed to do so, and that is why the iPhone is allowed to be cracked as well. Basically the FCC has to follow copyright laws, and those laws state that a user of copyrighted material is allowed to alter said material to suite their needs as long as they do not distribute said changes.