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[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] luminouche:
QuickGPS is a real "Must have" in the SuperLite one !!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mitut:
hi onkolog.Which dialer do u recommend to use in your super lite version ??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] zaharakis:
i think that your super lite is a ""must stop flashing after that"" rom :D

i can live in peace with it and thank u again for your work Oncolog:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] JLowe:
I installed the Lite Rom and have some questions, where I didn't find a solution with searching:

1. Anybody solved to install a working top "no curtain" (no grey curtain)?

also tested new Max TF3D Theme Maker v3.3 without success

2. How I can implement "All settings" in (new) Start(menu)?

"windows\manila.exe" --switchtopage Manila://settings.page doesn't work for me...

Thanks for helping!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] onkolog:
1 I don't know what is it...I don't use this apps

2 try this

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Manila\ProgramLauncher\1]

"DispName"="[[IDS_SETTINGSTITLE]]"

"IconPath"="\\windows\\HTC\\Assets\\Images\\programlauncher\\Program_icon\\settings_88.qtc"

"IsReadOnly"=dword:1

"Path"="\\Windows\\manila.exe"

"Command"="--switchtopage Manila://settings.page"
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] JLowe:
Thank you for your answer onkolog. Accessing "all settings" from Startmenu would be nice but not important, also "no curtains", just cosmetic stuff ;)

I used before Duttys 3.3 but I had some problems and wanted to test another more slim Rom.

It's interesting, that your Rom use only about 35-40% ram. Dutty use sometimes more than 60% ram.

I didn't see not many optical differences (notification manager old style, calendar edit old style, task manager not installed by default -> cab 2nd post) and it works also fine.

Is there a special matter for not implementing the new notification manager or is it because it doesn't bring so much advantage (just interested)?

I tried to change the shortcut for txt. In registry it shows the right program-shortcut for .txt but if I wanted to edit in the filemanager and tip on a textfile everytime the system ask me whith what program I want to edit the txt-file and everytime I click on "always open the program with..".

Then I found that while adding a favourite contact you have to quit the menu manual with cancel.

I'll test it some more because I am looking for a good (finger firendly) alternative with Manila and less battery consumption.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] JLowe:
Also I would suggest to delete Opera and HTC-Keyboard from Lite and give a cab that everybody can install it if he likes.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] CarpeNoctum:
Onkolog, allow me to thank you as well for the excellent work you have done with your Super Lite rom. It is the first time I use a "no manilla" rom in my Blackstone and I have to admit that it will take quite some time to go back to manilla roms.

I have one question for you. Right after hard reset I only installed my File Explorer (so the device is basically empty from any other software) and then I installed Opera 9.5 build 16070 on device memory as I am supposed to. The problem is though that Opera will not rotate to landscape mode automatically. I browsed through the registry but everything there seemed normal (e.g. opera was in the whitelist).

Do you have any ideas?

Edit... Nevermind onko. I found a solution. I just installed the Opera build that you give (15316) and it seems to be working perfectly now. :) I guess for some reason your super lite is not very fond of build 16070.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Techvir:
A free week end and time for some experiments.

I thought of giving a good look to the manila back ground. I used this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=503511

and made this cab in the attachment in this post .

When i use in Onkologs lite version , it screwed up the background ( all white to grey and some bizzare lines ) . I tested it in few other ROMS ( my friends HD ) and it works fine

Onkolog can u test as see why this happens

( i know u hate playing with configuring the manila ;-) )
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] onkolog:
I don't know nothing about Manila wallpapers and files)))I'll ask my friend why it happens...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Techvir:
thanks

:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] onkolog:
You installed this cab to ROM with same Manila version?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] SharpSA:
I don't want to flash again if changed only numbers...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Techvir:
I am not so sure.. the only thing i remember is that the rom was that from miri s premium version
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Matterhorn:
Personally I think the Lite ROM has a good balance of what most people consider necessary apps. If you want a more lean ROM, maybe try the SUPER Lite.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] JLowe:
Yes, that's true. My thinking is Opera is deep in the system and takes a lot og memory, there are other alternatives.

So in my opinion it's better to install it for yourself if you want it and leave it outsite the rom.

Also the HTC-Keyboard:

Most of the people are using Fingerkeyboard...

The Lite is very stable for me and I want to use Manila here, so superlite is not a real alternative for my daily use.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] onkolog:
1 Manila internet tab doesn't work without Opera...it is first

2 when I asked people most of them said that - don't remove HTC keyboard...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Kangburra:
I just tried the latest 6.1 lite and it doesn't work with Route 66 Navigate 7. The map is there but very over-zoomed and completely useless. I am back on the previous ROM and still have the BT problem. I can get manila to start if I enable BT from the start menu.

Also camera still flashes white after a picture.

Thanks for the ROMs though, still the best there is.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] JLowe:
It was my opinion, that's really okay. I am really glad to change from Duttys Rom to your.

I like it also as lean as possible, but I want Manila for my daily use.

I am using your Rom since 2 days and it works very stable. I don't customize a lot. I hear a lot of music with BT and I always problems with Duttys Roms connecting from Headset to the Device, with your Rom it connects immediately. also I am impressed of the Ram usage, for me there's no visual difference to Duttys, but your Rom use more than 20% less of Ram.

Telephon also works really quick and flawless.

I am also using now Lumos v10rc2 and nueDynamicClock 1.3 which works without losing any quality and my battery last longer.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] onkolog:
1 I don't know what is it Route 66 Navigate 7

2 Which previous version?I didn't hear about this strange problem before...

3 For Camera it's OK!!!because this Camera from Topaz...It's OK!!!It's not a bug!!!Please forget about that!!!

JLowe

Good for you...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] solaris10:
onkolog, is there any way to get HTC dialer in Super Lite version?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] onkolog:
Yes)))one way)))install Lite version)))I explained before about SuperLite version and HTC Dialer))
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] solaris10:
hehe, i see. I really like the low memory used on super lite version+SPB shell
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Kangburra:
The route 66 problem is possibly graphics related, not sure but I need it for work daily so I have reverted back.

The BT problem is I have two devices (headphones and headset) which can be used for the phone. With both paired to the Touch manila (yes I can hear you groan) doesn't start. If I start BT or leave it on before the reset all is well.

I have installed your ROM and the BT HID cab. Really though it is not a problem as I can switch BT on, let manila start and then turn BT off again.

Onkolog, none of these are complaints, your ROM is the best and these are niggles, not deal breakers. ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Matterhorn:
How much free RAM do you have with SUPER Lite after a soft reset? Mine is running the Lite ROM (Manila unchecked) +SPB MobileShell 3, with all of my apps installed it still has 142 meg of Free RAM after a soft reset. That is the most free RAM I've ever had on my HD, this is just a great ROM, very stable and fast...and I don't say that lightly :-)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] JLowe:
Yes, that's also an interesting thing. Is this really better comparing to the Lite with Manila, also regarding battery drain?

And how much memory use do you have with Mobile Shell? I have with Manila around 35%= 70MB in use/ around 126MB free after a soft reset (with maximum file system/filter cache in HD tweak). After longer use around 42% in use.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] JLowe:
But what is the advantage for you using SPB mobile Shell?

You have to pay for SPB Mobile Shell, you need a music player (Pocket Player), a calendar etc, etc.

In Manila you have already everything installed and it's free...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nicelad_uk:
I recently tried SPB Mobile in Onkolog Super Lite and had to revert back to Lite after 48 hours. It just wasn't for me.

I missed the features that Manila had compared to SPB but there were some things about SPB that I did like, but not enough to stay on it.

Memory usage between SuperLite with SPB and Lite with Manila is virtually the same but Manila has the nicer screens where as SPB uses Windows default for messaging etc...

Lite for me, but both brilliant, cheers Onkolog
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Techvir:
I use SPB Ms3 with lite version and love it. I get the benefit of both .

THere are few things missin in MS3 and i need it badly but MS3 gives a very good UI and it looks good.

The manila version in lite or any of onkologs rom is not editable.

I love colors !!!!!!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] oluwaponmile:
Hi Onkolog,

Do you keep history or archive of your work/rom. I need to download the April 8 Lite version. OR can anyone point me to the right direction.

Thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nicelad_uk:
I don't have it, but I am curious as to why you're after it, you not want the updated version?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nicelad_uk:
What parts are you trying to customize? I have backgrounds (colourful ones) on all tabs and also change the TF3D icons on the bottom to nice colourful ones.

My top bar is a set from Misfortune which are very nice and colourful also
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] oluwaponmile:
My Motorola S9 HD is not bringing out quality sound as it use to when I was using the April 8 version after upgrading to the latest version.

Bass is terrible and sound quality when listening to music via the S9 HD is not good when compared with previous version (April 8)

I was just thinking that the problem could be down to the included audio booster in the latest rom. OR would you have an advice for me on this?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nicelad_uk:
Hmm, it could be, sounds like somethings changed. Can you not disable Audio Booster at all through HD Tweaks or Advanced Config?

-- EDIT -- Seems to automatically enable / disable in HD Tweak when the headphones are plugged in/out. There must be a Registry edit around for this though. Anyone any ideas?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] solaris10:
46.46MB in use/149.83MB free; battery is really depends on how you use it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] oluwaponmile:
Email in Notifications

Is it just me? I can't open my email or SMS from the notification page.

The wifi notification does work but not any other notification. It does nothing when selected. It only show that you 've got email or sms.

Has anyone experience this?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] JLowe:
Hmm, for me is also no alternative to Manila for daily use. Everything is included in a nice fast Gui what I need.

I had for example a license for Pocket Player (version 3), but now I don't need this anymore, because the Manila-Player is really sufficient for me.

My purpose is a light(est) & stable Manila-rom.

Therefore I think I stay with WM6.1. For my holiday bike-travels where the battery drain is an important thing to consider, because of 10 hours a day and more usage of GPS I'll chose then the superlite Rom, but will test it before if there's really a difference.

But for daily usage here in my hometown I want also some nice Gui :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] JLowe:
That's really a difference. But not so heavy as Duttys with more than 60% of Ram usage. But otherwise: who cares if the Rom works stable and fast;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] onkolog:
No only you:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Techvir:
I was tyring to change the back ground to high resoultion image but that screwed up the wall paper... I left it alone as stability was more important for me ...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=503511
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nicelad_uk:
Yes, thats the program I use, just go into options and untick CFC compression, works 100% and is still high quality.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lamajstro:
Hey there,

the new lite rom has the same problem like the older one:

If someone calls you and you want to save the number, choosing "yes, create new contact" and then enter name, given name, etc. it is not possible to use the space key on the keyboard for the number. I realized that because I always save numbers in the international formate, like +49 (170) 1234566 - so I need a space between the country code and the phone number. But can't insert the space through the keyboard that lights up when entering the number.

Another question I have: In the first post is a picture of the rotated manila. How do you do that? The only thing that rotates is the opera browser and that just sometimes and the message inbox. Not even when I want to write a message I can rotate the screen.

Thank you.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Matterhorn:
Well, it is the same old story, "different strokes for different folks".

I like SPB MobileShell because it lets me customize my screen to have the information that I want. In the main "Lifestyle" layout you have 3 screens side my side, like a 16x9 TV screen, just swipe left or right and you can view the whole screen. On this very large window you can add all kinds of custom widgets (even settings controls) to control your device without going through endless menus. The interface is much more esthetically attractive than Manila to me, takes up less RAM and is fast. I use SPB weather with it because 1) it is more detailed and 2) you can add any city you want without hacking manila which is time consuming and potentially crashes it... As for the Calendar, I don't find the WM, Manila or MobileShell calendars adequate so I use Pocket Informant which has a "real" week view and an appointment input screen that is finger friendly. I use MortPlayer, which is free, for my Music player.

Manila allows you to get rid of some windows that you may not use like Stocks etc. and allows you to change the programs in the Start Menu, but that is about it for customizing unless you go through lots of trouble to hack it and even then the changes that you can make are limited. The city choices in the weather app are very limited. I just find myself always having to dig through menus to get to the controls I want with Manila.

However, as you say, Manila is free with the ROM...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nicelad_uk:
Open up Reg Edit (Not in phone, you will need to install, I use PHM Registry Editor) got to HKEY_CURRENT_USER -- Software -- HTC -- HTCSENSOR -- GSensor -- WhiteList

In there you will see a key called Manila, change the value of its Data to also say Manila.

Restart the device, you're on your way.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] baller4ever:
need help to resotre original dialer

I recently flashed this 1.56 rom with manila V3 (lite version published on 1st MAy). However the new default contact manager seems very slow! photo contacts takes ages to render. I have been trying to find a way to revert the new contact manager to the wm6.1 default one but no work. Can anyone helps?

Also, I dont like the new dialer too, it's slow as well. When i revert to the original dialer, no contacts and no numbers are showing in the dialer list. Seems there is a problem between the old contact manager and the new contact manager. Can any one help too?

Much appreciate!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nicelad_uk:
Not got any problems myself, running fine and contacts show instantly. Did you hard reset after installing? Are you putting contact photos in manually? if so how big are the images?

Again, not any problems with the new dialer, seems very responsive to me. Have you installed anything after flashing?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] JLowe:
Thank you for sharing your opinion!

Sorry, OT: Btw what WVGA-skin you are using with Mort?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] onkolog:
Manila V3?)))What is that?I know only two versions of Manila - 1st and 2nd)))

My last version is May 5,you can find link in the first post.You should try last version.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Matterhorn:
I just use the standard MortVista in Car Mode, I have my music library in ogg format which is why Mort is great for me. HeHe, yeah I guess my "opinon" was long winded :-)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] JLowe:
Thanks Matterhorn!

P.S. long-winded and informative! ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] baller4ever:
Thanks mate, I did manually added photo to my contacts and i have around 100 images, also i kept all the sms from my contacts since 2 years ago so I have loads sms. Not sure this is the problem. In addition, I have around 250 contacts. Anyway, thanks for you response, I might try the super lite version and install the old manila.

cheers!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Techvir:
Thanks for the suggestion.

I am going to try that out !!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nicelad_uk:
Cool, no problem.

Onkologs Roms are by far the fastest and most stable, I use Lite and have everything any other rom has installed and working 99.9% as it should.

More or less everything will work with this rom with a bit of tinkering, so don't be disheartened if it doesn't work first time, just use google and you can usually find a way around it!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nicelad_uk:
Hmm, how big are these images? The only reason I ask is I don't know if Manila / Outlook resizes these images to work better or whether they keep the full size image.

I have over 300 contacts in my phone book, over 150 of them with pictures. All these pictures are from Facebook downloaded through Manila, and they load instantly.

I don't really know the difference between Old Manila and this Manila, but I presume you will lose a few features and stability.

I don't think going to SuperLite will rectify this problem either, I think its more to do with the image size. You could try backing up your phone to Outlook (contacts, calendar etc) and then if you haven't customised your phone too much, do a hard-reset. Link the phone back up and download all the contacts back to see if it just needs a hard-reset. Do this before installing any other software, then install software 1 by 1 and see if it makes a difference.

Thats what I'd do anyway
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nicelad_uk:
I get about 2-3 days out of my battery with moderate use, bit of internet, calls, messaging. The battery is worse than Onkologs previous version, but not too much.

As the post above, I did a hard reset and installed programs 1by1 to see if these caused any problems.

I also did notice that "Beam" did drain the battery a lot quicker, so turned that off which gave me an extra half day.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Matterhorn:
I've noticed that the battery seems to drain faster just after charging than it did with Dutty 3.3, but the Dutty rom would drain slowly in the beginning but then the last half would drain really fast. Maybe it is just perception, but it could be something about the way the battery is being metered. This Lite ROM seems to drain in a linear way, ie. it drains at the same speed in the beginning and the end of a charge, which is the way it should be.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lamajstro:
??? In the first post, it is said, that your latest lite version is May 1st...??? Only the superlite version got updated, didn't it?

Ok, thank you a lot. It works so far. But is it also possible to rotate the screen for writing a sms?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nicelad_uk:
Does it not rotate already? Mine does... and I haven't changed anything
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] naughtypope:
can some one guide me how to stop or disable auto rotation other than manila

thnx
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lamajstro:
Well, when I change to the SMS tab, it rotates, but then, when I click "New SMS" and the WM6.1 writing screen opens it rotates back from landscape.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nicelad_uk:
Change the Registry value of.....

HKEY_CURRENT_USER -- Software -- HTC -- HTCSENSOR -- GSensor -- AutoRotation to 0

So it does, just changed Reg's and I have the same issue. Off the top of my head, in that WhiteList add the following:

New String Value with the Name as SMS and the value as tmail

Let me know if both the above work
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lamajstro:
No, unfortunately, it does not work...the SMS writing interface rotates back to portrait mode
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nicelad_uk:
Not sure then, sorry. You could just install Gsen which will let you do it, might be easier...?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lamajstro:
Well, ok. Generally, I try to avoid installing so much software. But ok then, I'll see.

But now I face an even bigger problem:

The new LITE Rom is not able to find my Jabra BT3030 Bluetooth Headset! Although it is switched on and right next to the HD, HD says no headset found.

I tried it with my old Kaiser and it works. It also worked with the HD stock rom. Is there anybody with the same problem?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nicelad_uk:
I connect to my Parrot MK9200i Hands free kit no problems with Lite. Not sure on this one, technically it should find it as all it is is a bluetooth device. Can your HD find your Kaiser?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] JLowe:
Never had any problems with this rom to connecting to BT Headset (Sennheiser). on the contrary with Duttys rom I had always the issue to connect manual, now it's connecting immediately when BT is on (1st HD then 2nd Sennheiser).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Techvir:
I miss the word suggestions when typing keyboard.

I have enabled it using advance config, even thing its not coming up.

Am i missing something ??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] onkolog:
Does it work before or it's just gone?)))
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Techvir:
I dont think it was ever working .
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Techvir:
Can i enable it ??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lamajstro:
Sorry for having another question, but do you have the problem as well that Opera does not rotate every time?

I can't tell what's the difference, but sometimes Opera rotates sometimes not. But it always rotates when I go back to the mail inbox, rotate there, rotate back and go back to Opera - then it rotates as well...

Is there a possibility to avoid this workaround?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nikolah:
Hi Onkolog. I'm about to flash your 5-May Last Super Lite version since I dont use manilla,and I'm curious if the home button is mapped to something else because it is useless if not using manilla? It would be nice to map it to pop start menu
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Techvir:
The home button can still take u to the today screen from any application