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[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] swidur:
Hi zoomb!

Thanks for the compliments. We try hard to grow :) because we also believe that crossingways is a promising plattform (and you should see what new features and ideas we have in our pipeline... ;) )

Yes we are currently changing, that you can so more than just the last 24 hours and 300 points. I am thinking a configurable amount of time for the tail, and a point in time...

As for the creation of track from the loggoed positions, well I was thinking that it would be nicer to provide a possibility to upload a log from GCC directly to crossingways, just like saving it as a gpx now. I think this has several benefits: full fidelity of the track, upload without having to livelog before (e.g.: abroad the roaming charges can kill you, but you might find a WLAN Hotspot and be able to upload your tracks there), and to be completely honest: fur us it is a quick win, since generating tracks from livelog point is quite a challenge :confused:

Uploading directly to crossingways is nearly finished and will be released shortly...[/QUOTE]

This feature is also nearly finished and will also be released shortly :)

No.

In your case the GCC will turn on the GPS every 15 min and try to get a fix. then it will record the position locally and check it more than 30 min passed since the last update to crossingways. If so, it will send the position to crossingways too. then it will wait for 15 min and everything starts again.

AndyZap: please correct me if wrong!

The timeframes are not congruent, it if takes 10 min to get a gps-fix, the timesapn from point 1 to point 2 will be 15min + 10min = 25min. Since 25min < 30min (your crossnigways update intervall) it will not update crossingways. So your position on crossingways will be at least 25 + 15 min old.

I hope you can understand my babble ;)

This works perfectly fine for me. I just start logging (and livelogging) and it runs for the rest of the day...

There are plenty out there. Unfortunately I do not know of any free ones...

:)

Regards Swidur!

PS.: Did you already log you way to work and post it to this Group here ;)? http://www.crossingways.com/Group/Ways_to_Work.en
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] megascape:
Problems with live logging

I have been trying to get live logging to work for the last 24 hours without success.

My phone is a HTC TyTN II (WM6.1) with 3G connection. I've registered on crossingways.com. The username and password are verified on my phone and when I start logging I get a message "Live logging is activated, proceed?" (to which I click on Yes). After GPS fix is acquired the status window says "livelog OK". So everything looks fine on my phone.

When I check the crossingways.com website though, it says that the last position update was "Never". The security settings are set to allow all users to view my position.

Do you know what the problem might be?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] arabbitte:
I'm afraid I can't help you - because I have exactly the same problem. And I mean exactly - even the same PPC!

I'd also like to know what I am doing wrong.:confused:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] cobracave:
Hello AndyZap & swidur,

Would you please let me know the possibility to host the live logging website for my own server? Is it very complicate to implement?

Thanks.

:)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] swidur:
@arabbitte and @megascape: Please send an email to support[at]crossingways.com so I can email you a new testversion. I rewrote the Upload so it works via HTTP POST and not SOAP any more...

@cobracave: we are working on an Iframe so you can host the livetracking on you site as well.. hope this is what you had ion mind :)!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] arabbitte:
> Please send an email to support[at]crossingways.com so I can email you a new testversion

Done!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] genab.de:
i downloaded a second time the same version, you send me with testversion (3.95) that etherything is from the same version

i testet my Username and Login, there come 00 Creditials verified (with WLAN internet connection)

that, i start GPS Tracking, and i sayed yes to livelogging (Popup)

that it logs almost 1 Minute, before the uploade happens, there comes an error Message...

GPS Cycle Computer.exe Webaxeption

Für diese Ausnahme ist eine Fehlermeldung verfügbar, kann aber nicht angezeigt werden. Diese Meldungen sind optional und derzeit nicht auf dem Gerät installietrt

Installieren sie NETCFv3.5.Messages.DE.WM.cab für Windows Mobile 5.0 oder höher oder NetCF35.messages.DE.cab für die anderen Plattformen. Starten sie die Anwendung neu, um die Meldung anzuzeigen...

i will try to install ist.

It happens an both Devices i testet.

HTC Diamond Pro (WM6.1 original o² Rom) and HTC Hermes (alsias Tytn) Shaps WM6 Rom

should i test something different?

many thanks for Help (and i hope you had a great Holyday in Croatia :-) )
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] genab.de:
and it happens etherytime 52 sekinds, after i start my loging (i think 8 sekonds before the first upload)

now i installed the NETCFv3.5.Messages.DE.WM.cab

and there is a new error Message:

Unerwarteter Fehler in GPSCycleComputer.exe

Klicken sie auf beenden, und starten Sie das Programm neu. Weitere Informationen zu diesem Fehler erhalten Sie indem Sie auf Details klicken

Der Remoteserver hat einen Helher zurück gegeben: (500) Interner Serverfehler.

(sorry for the German Error Message, but my English is not the best, and my Phone says exact thgis error Message, and i dont want to interupt anything in false translation....)

whe i klick on details, there comes

GPSCycleComputer.exe

WebAxeption

Der Remoteserver hat einen Helher zurück gegeben: (500) Interner Serverfehler.

bei

System.Net.HttpWebRequest.finishGet

Response()

bei

System.Net.HttpWebRequest.GetResponse()

bei LiveTracker.CWUtils.doPost(String

url, String payload

bei

LiceTracker.CWutils.UpdatePositionOnCrossingwaysViaHTTP(String username, String passwordhash, Double lat, Double lon Double ele, Double heading

and so on, and so on,

i cant copy and paste the error message...

is the error message anywhere saved as txt? (to send it?)

i testet, that Internet Explorer has Internet connection (it has over WLAN)

if i should test anything, let me know, i will do it,

many thanks, for great application and website...

hope it will work soon :-)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] swidur:
Hello fearless testers :)

I just came back from holidays and will work through the feedback. I hope I can send out a new testversion before the end of this week.

For your information: I the testversions I just change the Upload- code, everything else is unaltered code from AndyZap, so GCC should work just fine (besides uploading obviously)

Thanks a lot for your testresults and patience!

regards swidur
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] vvstepa:
Hi All.

I'm trying to use Live Logging feature of GCC for last week. Everything looks working on the PDA side. The message in the info cell says that GPS position is successfully logged but I never see my position in crossingways.com. Status is "Update: Never".

Does anybody know is this service is actually in working state now? What might be the origing of the problem?

Thanks. Vladimir
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] swidur:
Hi vvstepa,

the problem seems to be the method how the server is updated... SOAP vs. HTTP POST/GET.

I am working on it... so a little patience please!

regards martin
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] vvstepa:
traffic consumation

Thank you swidur.

Assuming that you fix this problem, I'm trying to evaluate how expencive will be to use this service though GPRS/EDGE while in rouming. How much traffic does take single live-logging session? I belive that it must not be much - up to 1Kbyte. Isn't it?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] genab.de:
i got ne Test Version, for me it Workes now, for an another French guy, it works as well.

Think Problem Solved....

bit solved in Version 3.95... now 3.100 is out, hope 3.101 has the Fix included :D

Many Thanks to the Developers :-)

Tools is Great

is there a way to include the Live Tracking to an Blog oder own Website by using iframe or something else?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] megascape:
I've tried the version you emailed me in the last 24 hours or so and it still doesn't upload live. My last update remains 'Never'. I don't know why my location should matter but in case it does I'm in Australia.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] vvstepa:
It looks that the problem is fixed. My position has got updated. FYI I'm using version 3.100.

Thanks you, Martin.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] matthieu60:
Works very well in France

Hello everybody,

I try the last test version and my position in correclty updated on the server.

Thanks Martin.

I have just a little bug: sometimes GCC freeze and i lost the GPS reception after few minutes. If i switch on the phone i receive the GPS egain. But perhaps it is my phone configuration...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] matthieu60:
Code modification in the next GCC release?

which GGC version will be incorporating these HTTP post modification?

Thanks
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] megascape:
I now have it working too :)

What is the URL on the crossingways website to view your own live position? When I click on "Live Tracking" it is centred on Europe (I'm not there) and it shows the positions of several other people I don't know.

Also are there any plans for an option to view tracks on Google Maps rather than Microsoft Virtual Earth?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] vvstepa:
Hi.

For now it's working and I'm seeng the track of my phone on the map as it goes in the car street bt street. But there is something that looks like a defect. Please look at the picture.

Current position is shown as expected exactly on the road. But the trace of former updates is shifted to the left. Moreover it looks that is gets shifted a bit to the left each time position is updated. It would be nice to get this fixed.

Thabks. Vladimir
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] genab.de:
there are different View in Firefox and Internet Explorer

Internetexplorer, you dont have Timeline, but you started centered..

Firefox, you start in middle Europe, and you see other People..

you can link direktly to your Position:

(666 is only an exaple, you can use your own Number...)

http://www.crossingways.com/Benutzer/666/AktuellePosition.de

@vvstepa if you use the test exe, you downgrade to 3.95... or?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] vvstepa:
Hi.

I use Iternet Explorer and official downloaded version v3.100 of GCC.

What is "my own Number"? Haw can I obtain it?

Thanks. Vladimir
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] FrankSanno:
Hi Vladimir, for getting your "number", you have to login to crossingways.com and click on "Echtzeitverfolgung".´Than in the addressbar you can see your "number". By the way, you can use the whole link for example in your website. Checking out this on your own computer you have to logout before.

Regards

Frank
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] swidur:
When you click on the Link "Livetracking" or "Echtzeitverfolgung" in your own profile, you see the position of everyone who granted you the right to do so.

These are a lot more than I expected, so I will have to make some changes to the list, like scrollbars or something. If you klick the link livetracking (Link is only visible if you have the permission the see the persons position) on somebody elses profile, you only see the position of the person... I guess this is not very intuitive?

Most of the people ypou see there granted the Live Tracking permission to everyone, so you see people you do not know...

The centering on europe is hardcoded (actually it centers on Graz, Austria which is where we are located :) ) but i will change that in the near future.

Sorry we have no plans to change or add google maps for now... since this is a LOT of work and we are doing all this on our free time...

best regards swidur
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] swidur:
this is a browser problem! Which one are you using? It should work fine in IE 7 and 8, but there might be offsets with FireFox. The Track (the red line) does not have an offset but the icons have, so in your case you guessed wrong, the red line is on the position sent by the GPS (which might be a little off) and the pin is off. You can verify this by zooming out, then the pin will "move".

We are working on that...

Thanks for your patience!

regards swidur
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] swidur:
You can save the gcc logs to kml from withing GCC on your mobile phone.

kmz is only a zip compressed kml file.

regards Martin
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] vvstepa:
I'm using IE7, and it indeed looks as browser problem. I tried same browser for different computers (5) and have found the problem on half of them - the problem exists for computers with wide display while for standard 4:3 ratio everything is displayed correctly.

On the computers where it works incorrectly I definitly see the behaiviour that differs from that you described for FireFox. Icon position is definitly on the right position and keeps at the same street corner while I zoom teh picture in and out. But red trace definily gets shifted depending in the zoom level.

Thanks. Vladimir
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] swidur:
Hi Vladimir,

thanks for your information. this is indeed very strange as we have never before see this behavior (like the line moving, not the pin). On my notebook Win Vista SP1 with IE8 and a resolution of 1920 x 1200 I have never seen that.

I will look into that!

I anyone else has similar issues please contact me!

regards Swidur
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] swidur:
This screenshot look quite distorted to mee, is this what you see on your screen or is this because the posted image was resized?

If this looks that way on your machine, you could try choosing a different resolution.

regards Martin
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] vvstepa:
Hi

I'd like to propose one enhancement to "User Live Tracking" pags.

When I look at this page on computers with low vertical resolusion (like my netbook with 1024x600 display) the page header on the top with site name, Google banner, userpic and menus takes about the third part of the screen. Assuming that browser taskbar and menu also eat some space there is only a little part of the screen left to the map with track (about 1/2 of the screen hight in my case). This makes map usage non-cunvinient :-(

Scrolling the browser window doesn't help as the map keeps of the same size and the space on the bottom remains empty. Is it possible to enlarge vertical vise of the map or place menus and banner on the lest side of the map?

Thanks. Vladimir
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] vvstepa:
What sort of distortion do you mean. I've just checked JPEG file on the server - it looks exactly as I see it. Everything is fine but the fact that red trace is moved to the left.

I have just tried other resolutions on same computers - trace still looks shifted. May it be the effect of the driver? Both computers that show bad behaviour are Dell Latitude. That problem may be due to their video driver...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] darthmelk:
First of all - nice application and service! I've been searching for a live tracking site like this!!

I just want to know if there is a setting in GPS CC or in the site to show only my current position on the map in the embed - without the red line showing my track.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] swidur:
Hello darthmelk,

there is no option for that yet, but I added it to our "feature-wishes-list" :)

Could you post (or PM me) the link to the site where you embedded the iframe? I am just curious :)!

regards swidur
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] darthmelk:
PMed you. I think you see why the red track looks bad.

Also, it would be nice if the embed would have an option to keep my position/avatar centered.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] matthieu60:
Hello everybody,

I try the last version (3.107) and my position in correclty updated on the server.

I have just a little bug: GCC freeze and i lost the GPS reception after few minutes (between 3 or 5 minutes). If i switch on the phone i receive the GPS egain. I upload my position (live logging) each 1 minute and my data connection is already on.

If i don't use live logging option, I don't lost the GPS reception.

Someone have this problem?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] darthmelk:
I might have the same problem. GPS CC freezes very often for 1-2 minutes. It isn't able to upload every minute, that's for sure.

swidur - did you manage to do something about the site regading the history length?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] gt112:
does anyone know how to remove the trace (horrible red lines) on crossingways.com embedded live map ? I have traces showing from 48 hours ago. Also is there anyway to customise the embedded map to show extra information such as the last time updated (gps data received), current speed, direction etc

many thanks
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] darthmelk:
Swidur said he'd add an option on the site to choose how many hours will the red line represent on the map. By selecting 0 you would have no line. But I haven't heard from him since and he doesn't respond to PMs...

Too bad, it was an interesting solution with GPS CC (which unfortunately seems to freeze each 3-5 minutes) and the site.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] gt112:
this only works on the crossingways site itself, not on the embedded iframe. When you embed the map i your own site, the horrid red lines are always on. Is there any way to get rid of them ?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] swidur:
Helly everyone,

sorry for the long silence, I was really busy (new client, new project ...).

I will try to finish the configuration settings for the iframe this weekend, so a little more patience please...

concerning the GPS dropouts when also uploading I will have to look into that... I will come back to you as soon as I can find something out!

so long

swidur
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] gt112:
tried to register tonight, no confirmation email sent. what can I do now?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] gt112:
I have to write and say that I have now tested several gps tracking apps. I have tried SportsDo, Pathaway, Run.Gps, Trackr and TrackMe. They all have their issues, their pros and cons but the one flaw that thay all have in common is that they do not allow you to control GPS frequency. Some of them allow you to control web update frequency but not being able to control the GPS frequency has major issues for battery life. I tried Run.Gps today in its most power friendly mode (screen totally off, wifi off, bluetooth off, infrared off etc etc. It drained my battery in 4 hours - crazy!!

That's where GPS Cycle Computer shines, it allows you to control how often you run GPS updates and how often you run live (web) updates. This puts it streets ahead of all the competition. I ran it tonight on my phone for 3 hours and my battery barely changed. I had it set to update live web every half hour and update gps every 5 minutes. I am more interested in live updates to web server than high definition performance info so this suits me great. I think a gps read every minute would be plenty for kml/gpx data and you would still be saving a lot of power.

All it needs now is to be more reliable, i.e. it must Not stop running if a gps read fails, keep trying, keep trying. Also the web server needs better facilities such as seeing just you on map, option to get rid of terrible red trails (especially in embedded version where all red trails (your complete history) are shown, and the embedded iframe needs customisation such as size, being able to show date and time of last known location, perhaps average speed, direction etc.

GPS Cycle Computer and Crossingways - I love you
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] gt112:
Tonight I cannot connect to crossingways form my Touch HD. When I try to verify credentials I get the error "90 - could not establish a connection to the server". My PDA is fine, its browsing the net etc, I am using WiFi at the moment. I am starting out on a multiday event tomorrow and I need crossingways to be reliable. What's wrong? Why wont it work? I am able to log in using latop and web browser, just not from GPS Cycle Computer.

EDIT: Update, I have just switched off WiFi and switched on Data Conection on my Touch HD and now I am able to connect to crossingways from GCC, verifying credentials works. Does this mean that GCC does not work with WiFi?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] gt112:
and another thing

In your embed code, you have added a new querystring - TrackPastXHours=n. It has no effect whatsoever, all red lines from the beginning are still shown. I have tried it at 168, 24 and 0 - it made no difference.

It seems to work if you just run the url into a browser - http://www.crossingways.com/User/nnnn/CurrentPosition/IFrame.en?TrackPastXHours=24

but not when you embed it in your own site using the embed iframe

<iframe src="http://www.crossingways.com/User/nnnn/CurrentPosition/IFrame.en?TrackPastXHours=24" width="600" height="400" style="border:none;" name="CrossingwaysIFrame" frameborder="0" border="0" marginwidth="0" scrolling="no"><p>It seems that your Browser is not able to show embedded Frames:<br />You can see the embeded Page under the following Link:<br /><a href="http://www.crossingways.com/User/nnnn/CurrentPosition/IFrame.en?TrackPastXHours=24">User Live Tracking on crossingways.com</a></p></iframe>

(I have replaced my userid with nnnn for privacy).

So just to reiterate, once again its the embedded version that does not work
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] swidur:
Hi,

my guess is that you were just unlucky and tried to access crossingways during an update cycle... since we released a new version of the website, the site becomes a bit unstable during the update...

everything should be fine now..

regards swi
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] swidur:
That is strange... we will look into that on this friday!

thanks for the info!

swi
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] balu123:
Infos on embeded Live Tracking

Hi!

gt122:

you mentioned you would like to have some more information on your embedded livetracking. as we are always happy to put cool new ideas onto our Features List: can you tell me exactly what you would like to have? and for what so that we can imagine it better (can you send me the adress where you are using the embed stuff???)

@customizing size: the iframe should always uses the whole size it gets. so just change the size of the iframe, and the map gets bigger ;)

<iframe src="..." width="600" height="400" ...>

regards!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] darthmelk:
As I talked to swidur before, I would like to have the average speed between the present and previous point displayed on the embed. It can be easily calculated and it will be pretty acurate when driving.

Or even better - to take the speed from GPS CC along with the position - and to display that in the embed.

The last update time (when GPS CC sent the position) should be displayed somewhere.

Another thing - very important - is to get rid of the red lines. Swidur was taking care of that, but I guess it's not done yet.

Inside the embed, the map should stay centered on the track - or have a button somewhere to keep the map cenered on the target or not.

That's all I can think of for now...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] gt112:
Hi

I was talking about adding metadata such as a flag that tells the user when the last gps update was received, also perhaps a setting in the querystring to set the initial zoom level of the map.

Best regards
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] DarrenUtd:
I'm pretty sure I have this same problem. The live logging makes GCC freeze for several minutes at a time - doesn't respond to inputs, screen doesn't update, track is not updated, etc. I had it set on live logging every 1 min.