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[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Fenopy:
Awesome! I would switch. Running Just2Clean right now, and love it (other than randomly losing 2mb of memory every hour) lolz.

Can't wait!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] v5HMeca:
I'd probably use it. Much like you, I too have noticed that just about every newer ROM has some sort of quirk with it. Sometimes big, sometimes almost unnoticeable. Most are tolerable, but other times you'll run into a ROM where MMS doesn't work at all, or where threaded messaging doesn't work, or the State Menu has an intrusive white block in it, or where the volume control bugs out, or where the preinstalled version of Jbed is unstable, etcetera. It would be nice to have a ROM that is wholly bug free, but I would imagine that it would be hard since I assume that's a goal of just about all chefs.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] da_mayhem:
I'm interested ivan, will be waiting! Thanks!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Well, the good thing is that my ROMs are smaller and therefore, there is less stuff to go wrong, and I can focus all my attention on making the smaller set of features work properly. ^_^
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] N3xt2N0N3:
yes this is in the near future...even though i have a G1 I would love to run android on my wing. Auto run android!!

But I also want to beta test JustStable so ivan I officially made myself your beta tester.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guardian1969:
Very Interested

Have been running your other ROMs for a while would love to try out the JustStable
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Sid_dominic56:
Go go Ivan, eveyone would love to use your rom.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I don't particularly like M2D because of its bugs when relating to landscape support. iFonz, I never really used.

Definitively, a must have.

Haven't used it, how's the memory usage on it? Looks pretty useful.

MUST have, but replacing the built-in one isn't always an option, we will see.

How's the ram usage these days? S2U2 has always been a memory hungry app.

The dialer is the main reason why I decided to cook again, so I'm open to ideas. I had a modified dialer that looked great but had more bugs that I could count and it was driving me insane. I'm going to try subbro's iDialer and see how I like it.

Unfortunately, this is all built-in code, so unless you know of a contact app replaacement that can do this well, I would to write an app from scratch to do so.

Good idea, I'll have to do some research on this one.

You mean like a shortcut in the program menu instead of the comm manager? Or do you mean instead of a double click the first time to initiate the driver? (Which I can fix at the cost of some RAM.)

That's one of my unreleased ROM's features. When you press the "IE" shortcut on the keyboard of the Wing and the HTC Atlas, it opens up OperaMini. The only thing is that it doesn't take in links to sites, it errors out on them. This might still be doable.

All my ROMs lack games built in. They're a waste of space for a lot of people.

WMP is required for the ring tones to work properly. If I can figure out where the dependencies come from, this might be doable.

Unfortunately, the author of all the PCM software does not like cooks using his software in ROMs that are released to the wild...

It was good info, though.

Sure thing.

Stripped down to only install what you want and need.

Even more stripped down but instead of providing various versions, I provided a whole kitchen for people to make their own versions.

Just as the name says, stability is the key. I want something usable, stable, lacking of bugs and that I won't be annoyed with. One major example is the contact issue you mentioned, I also find it annoying.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Erikbronx:
Can't wait!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ruebyi:
Sounds great! I will try it! Shure!

P.S.: of course I would like to see a kitchen of this rom :p Just a Joke!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Status Update:

So far, I've got the following running FAST and Stable:

XIP: 20924

SYS: 19588.1.1.2 (I'm having some problems porting the 20924 SYS.)

Once I get the SYS properly ported and the OS 100% stable, I'll start working on the little details. So far, I did replace the dialer for something more stable. The new dialer has a easier "add to contants" on it, too.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
That's excellent news! I was wondering where you'd gone, then it hit me. "He went to work on it". that's great re an improved way to "add new contact" from a phone call interface.

Good luck on the project!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Does anyone else not like the alternative SIP? Or do you just like the default keyboard?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] prscott1:
I'll be a guinea pig - I've become an expert at recovering from a failed boot. ;)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
haha

Good. :p
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] lmyers10:
I like it. Works good for me. And I will be the guinea pig as well. Nothing like trying to recover from a bad flash. That is the only way i have ever learned anything break it than learn to how to fix it.:eek::D
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
That's my motto. :p

How do you think I learned how to cook? :p
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Uploading as we speak. This time, I'm uploading both Herald and Wing versions.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] lmyers10:
I have just started reading (like this morning) on some of the tutorials. I would have to get another phone to attempt anything like this.lol.

This is petty but I have a question about the rom. Highlighted items (progress bar while installing programs, highlighted messages etc) is extremely light and almost can't been seen. Can I adjust or is this burnt into the rom..
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] lmyers10:
Your quick. Flashing when uploaded.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
This is because of the lack of a theme. hehe

It was a byproduct of me messing around with the theming but stopping halfway through when an actual themer took over. This will be fixed when the themes are finished.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=ddcfab2cd6ecfe31931c7453395df025a2bc656cac371568ce018c8114394287

There are both the newer builds and the older build. Download the appropiate version. The Herald uses the herald keyboard and lacks mortscript (since I only use it for the Herald "ie" keyboard shortcut.) The Wing version uses the Wing keyboard driver. Remember, these are native drivers, not hacked to work that way.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] lmyers10:
Flashing......:D Back in a few with updates...Bricked for now.. haha. Trying again.lol
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Awesome, just remember that this is an untested build, since my wife has the wing. We're trying to find a cheap used phone to buy for her in Craigslist.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] lmyers10:
Well I am flashing again. It was stuck on the splash screen before.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Might be a bad build. Give me a sec. Busy at work. I'll make a new build in a second.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] lmyers10:
I found a razyr on the local craigslist for 40.00. If interested I can get you the info. Any ideas what exactly you are looking for?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] prscott1:
Wow - downloading wing.7z now...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] prscott1:
Did it work this time for you or should I wait for the new build?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] lmyers10:
I would wait. It was stuck on the splash screen twice trying a third time for the fun of it. I am off work today, so I am not busy..:D Third time was no go as well. So I will just wait as well, in the meantime I will be putting my sons RC car back together as he just ran it into the kitchen table at about 30 mph. lol
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I disabled the XIP hacks (but since I'm dealing with customers while I'm doing this, hopefully I didn't make a mistake and merge it with the wrong build... lol)

Uploading now.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] livndeadgrl13:
will flash the new wing version let you know thanks again :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
The Wing version is up. Uploading the Herald version now.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Both are up now. JustHacked12 Build 2
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] lmyers10:
Flashing.. Post updates here when completed

Nothing but splash screen.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] jchitwood85:
Hey Ivan, I dunno if maybe this question has been answered elsewhere, But I have a Unlocked TMo Wing, and I Flashed the Alpha Release lastnight and It installed ok, Ran fine and was a really good looking OS btw..... But then I took my Sim card outta my pearl, and put it in the wing, and the boot keeps lapsing over and over, right after the splash it reboots, but then I take out the SIM and it loads fine....... Any ideas for me?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I've never seen that before. It works fine with my SIM (well... my wife's SIM.) Try to hard reset it with the SIM in it.

Darn it... ok, I'm gonna try going back to the older more broken dialer. And remove some of the newer hacks. Be back in a few with a new build.

Oh and I'll also make sure I make the NBH with a proper build number.

Uploading now.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] prscott1:
Hehe - future NASCAR star?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] prscott1:
that's wild - I take mine out all the time to switch between phones and never seen anything like that.

do you have an sd card installed? if so, remove it, reboot and see if it comes up. if so, could be a problem with the sd.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] lmyers10:
You could say that.. At least when I went to the hobby shop I bought 2 of everything for this reason..:D
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] jchitwood85:
If ya ment to hit the lil button by the slider key, I tried it..... lol Its just lapsing. Kinda odd. OTP7 does the same thing..... I dunno what the deal is. Just2Clean works great.... Maybe your 6.5 port will work, I had the PDA Viet 6.5 runnning but there was too much crap in it! Maybe you should let me test your 6.5 build =P lol
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] prscott1:
I have the same problem with build 2 - I flashed from SD and got the success message, but now stuck at first splash screen.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
JustHacked12Build3 for wings is up. Herald is currently uploading.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] jchitwood85:
Im reflashing with the SIM in the phone this time, like I said its unlocked and Im using Cinicnnati Bell..... will update

-----Actually im downloading the new release =P will try that, 72% d/l already =)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] lmyers10:
Flashing:

Setting up device now.. Running customization now. Soft reset and now we are in business

Activesync - working
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] prscott1:
Man, you are fast! I'm copying to my SD now....
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] jchitwood85:
prscott, your hybrid theme looks good, I think im gonna run that, but how fast is it with HS++ and MortScript (which ive never heard of nor used)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] prscott1:
It is very fast for me and function-rich for a today plug-in. - especially running on Ivan's ROMs! :D

Edit: BTW, mortscript is a very robust command language interpreter that runs on windows mobile. It has a very small footprint and packs a powerful punch. There are hundreds of great scripts out there...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] prscott1:
Build 3 for Wing flashed successfully!! woohoo. I'll test it out now!

:D :D
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] jchitwood85:
OK Build 3 seems to work, It flashed and I just ran setup and it customized and rebooted..... Hopefully it accepts my SIM this time...... =P LOL nope its rebooting again...... I give up....

-------I took out the Msd card, pushed the reset button and now its stuck at the splash screen, coverage LED is flashing though..... SOOOOO CLOSE!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] lmyers10:
Everything seems fine so far. I will report back later after I have had time to mess with it. Thanks Ivan!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kobi_eidelman:
it happened to me too.how this option could be changed?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I don't know why it would be doing that. I've never used a SIM unlocked Wing, though... I wonder if there's something in the newer WM6.1 builds that causes a problem with that? I'll have to do some research.

Your cabs disappeared? Did you flash the newest build or the older build?

As far as preventing that, you should always have your CAB files set to Read Only.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Great to hear! The dialer is still broken in the theming, but at least it boots. I'm gonna build another one with those XIP hacks again, but this time with the old dialer. Anyone care to try it?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] jchitwood85:
I dunno what the deal is bro. Ive used PDAViets and they use newer builds, Like i said i even used 6.5 breifly. I dont think its the build, Im back to your just2clean now. If you do find anything out for me please let me know. I will look myself as well when i get home later, Im also gonna start doing some cooking myself, or atleast attempt to, by taking your lil classes...... Thanks man
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
I'm going to kick in another $50... hopefully others can add $10 x about 20 more people and that might be enough for Ivan to get his wife a less bulky phone.

That is what I have heard from almost everyone as well. And as most people know, the honeycomb is SUCH a bust that MS Windows Mobile employees themselves complained, and MS has replaced it already with a non-outlined version of the honeycomb shape.

I haven't flashed yet but am ready to do so today. If what you've got is QuickMenu but with larger font and finger friendly, I would urge you to stick with QuickMenu. It is robust, and works fantastic as a navigator.

My intentions is using Ivan's Rom:

(1) I want to use one of two app launchers: either ifonz 2.x (still not released but soon!), or TouchFlo 2d, which I spent past 6 weeks modifying finally to my liking.

(2) I'll be curious to see what you were able to do with the dialer and IN-CALL UI (unthemed), and the "SAVE TO CONTACTS" new interface that Microlab has been using...

/qs

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[Wing, P4350 ROM development] nikmel420:
need new link

ive been tryin to download v3 and its sayin i cant i flashed the v2 and im stuck on slash but if there r any improvments from v1 i cant wait it ran fineonly a minor things that everyone got
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
Ivan, I have an installation question

I just remembered -- this must be installed via storage card, right?

AFter my last experiment partitioning my 8g storage card didn't go so well, I believe you said something like this but I don't recall if this is correct:

• That I can use a smaller capacity MicroSD card just for installing the ROM, and then

• switch to my 8g storage card for usage of the ROM once it has been installed and fully set-up.

Is this correct? Once it's installed, it doesn't need to reference the storage card at all, right? ... So is this what you'd recommend for me?

thanks
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Wow, you've already done so much for me! I don't know how to thank you!

As far as th dialer, it's still broken because the theme itself is broken. So, unfortunately, for now, it's useless.

Just some minor improvements really. It's ok to flash to v1 for now.

This one can be flash the regular way. ^_^ Through Flash Center.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] lmyers10:
I flashed thru activesync. Whoops...Everything seems to be working fine though..
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] nikmel420:
i got it to go :) one question i think i got lazy and copyed the nbh file throgh active sync instead of my sd reder dont know why ive flashed your roms a hundred times could that b why it froze up i didnt use the card readr
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
No, this ROM is fully compatible with ActiveSync, so there shouldn't be any issues.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] nikmel420:
ok thx i just thoght since i did it didermt and ot difrent result that as it dont mater now got mediafire to give it up and if i may put my 2 cents in on te theme blue silk that u have in just2clean has been the best since icpfan made it
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Currently uploading 2 more builds. One with the XIP hacking again, one with a few hacks to try to get sim unlocked phones to work.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
Backup Settings and Resetting Configurations

This is a big piece of information. Can I suggest you place this important note at the very top of, or close to the very top of, this thread, page 1?

I would never have known that.

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Another Installation Question:

This is more of a Flashing 101 Question, but I know I can get an efficient answer here, please:

Re: pre-flashing Backup Procedures: I'm looking for as many file resources as possible that can be saved to preserve data and app configuration information, to minimize the time spent reinstalling specific configurations of applications that are part of my standard package of apps:

1. I will run PIMbackup. (i won't bother with ActiveSync because all I transfer between phone and PC are contacts.)

2. For my planned use of TouchFlo 2d, I will be using the Utility M2DC, and saving the .m2dt file (theme file), and also the .xml file that contains the specific theming and layouts I have set up.

3. For PCM Keyboard I will make sure I have saved the skin and layout files.

4. Is there a config file I can save for QuickMenu that preserves which items are in menu, and in which order, all of the shortcuts I haver made, my SIP selections, etc?

5. "Advanced Customization" utility -- which has all sorts of tweeks re user interface, sensitivity settings, app associations for file types, default folder locations for pics, video, music, etc... Is there a config file I can save and replace somewhere after my clean install of Just Stable?

6. Basically -- I'm looking to start saving time in replicating the configurations of EVERYTHING that I like from suites of apps and utilities when switching to a new ROM. So I am looking for which config files can be saved, and then dragged into respective folders, to then SOFT RESET and have a whole suite of customizations take place, vs app by app.

7. Has anyone at XDA ever thought of extending the concept of PIM backup to include Application Configuration Backups, that scan for all such config and layout files, store them in one backup process, and then unpack them and restore them after flashing to new rom and installing cabs for the apps you want to reinstall?

If not, to me this is a utility I would pay for, for sure. And I think it would sell really well in the coming Windws App store. It's only a matter of time before someone decides to make this "ConfigSave" utility, even for mainstream users for when the "unthinkable" happens and they have T-mobile or AT&T telling them they have to reinstall their system and apps etc.

thank you.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] lmyers10:
SPB backup is a very good tool. It will restore everything that you want or just partial. Its not freeware but it is a nice tool

Activesync is working I mentioned that in the post when I first flashed. From what I understand Ivan doesn't have a wing right now, so we are testing this rom. So there is now way for him to know until we test and post. Make sure that you read some of the posts of what people have said about the testing of the rom. It could save you some headaches..: )
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
ahh, good to know. To the best of your knowledge, would it restore everything I have noted on the list above that I want to preserve?

Are you saying it also preserves the actual installation of apps -- or I assume I still would have to reinstall my apps after flashing -- just to make sure everything installs cleanly and all that .dll crap goes inot the right places within windows os ??
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
hah hah!... well, here's my reply.. It's kinda like The Godfather, just not creepy and bloody.

Translated -- as I wrote to you in Paypal: To be honest, I'm (a) a nice guy, (b) believe in supporting good work, but (c) am also protective of my investments, & "selfish" in a healthy way. Meaning I'm not planning to replace my wing anytime soon. So it is in my best interest to help you produce a superior product for me to use :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] lmyers10:
It would preserve them, but I am not sure about placement into a different rom.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Thanks Quicksite! And as soon as JustStable goes final, I wouldn't mind making you a custom build with all your apps, nothing that you don't want and even try to include as much of your information as possible.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
There are two new builds up. JustHacked12V3b (with the xip hacks back in) and JustHacked12SIM with a hack to attempt to fix the issues with SIM unlocked phones.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
Yaaa-hoo! I would take you up on that in a San Francisco minute!....

btw, did you ever figure out a way to make the "Pictures and Video" application enable one to set their Storage Card as default medium where photos are stored? just curious.

anyway, can't wait til tonight after work i can try the new ROM! ...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I'm researching that as I write this. lol

Btw, as you try the ROM, remember that there are at least two untested ROMs (the ones I just posted) and that the dialer is still unskinned and quite broken. lol)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] prscott1:
I'm in! I'll give it a go and report back after dinner.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] jrange1:
where is the link

found link when i was at work but when but got home link was missing

btw i am running just 2 clean wing

love it. very fast
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
It's on the first page. It's a link to a "folder" online. Be aware, though, this is a TEST version to find bugs. The dialer is partially broken because I'm waiting for the themer's themes.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] jrange1:
what happen to link the link//

for some reason i was able to see on my job computeer but now i aam at home the link is missing

can u help me with this?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] marty123:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=ddcfab2cd6ecfe31931c7453395df025a2bc656c ac371568ce018c8114394287

Just a little typo kept it from showing as a link :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] prscott1:
good news

Ivan,

I've flashed the new JustHacked12v3b.7z and so far, so good!

I'll give it a bit of workout tonight - but have to spend some time with the loved ones.... :cool:

Great work!!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Fixed. Marty was right. It was there but not showing as a link due to a typo.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] livndeadgrl13:
just so i understand the justhacked for wing has to be flashed through the sd card? is that right, i tried to fash earlier and it got stuck on the flash screen and had to go back to the new just stable
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
That's great to hear! Spend time with family. It's more important. ^_^

If the SIM version works for SIM unlocked people and also for SIM locked people, I'll merge the two and keep going with the bug fixes.

Has anyone tried the weather to see if it works, or the OperaMini icon to see if it launches OperaMini directly?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
No, it can be flashed through the SD card or the Flash Center. The build you tried was broken. That's why it wouldn't work.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] livndeadgrl13:
ahh i see so i floow the new link and i should be good, well dying to see what it look like so ill try it again thanks, i have a wing whats the right rom i want, i lost the link :)

edit

found the link, my eyes need a fixin lol
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] jrange1:
11

i found link now

i dont know what happen

i guest i panic with anxiousness to test

i am downloading now..will post after testing but i can tell u my finding from now.

F@@@@ing perfect!!!!!!