yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jw5801:
The problem here is not money, as you seem to have somehow inferred, it is freedom. The complaints are about groundspeak monopolising something they did not create, and something which by its very nature should epitomise the open, free (as in speech, not as in beer) and communal way we utilise the internet.

Most of us would happily pay a premium membership, or another fee, if it would allow us to utilise this data resource in the manner that best suits us. But that option isn't available, we have to work within the (rather limiting) framework that groundspeak offer. I don't want instant gratification, I want the freedom to be self sufficient. If there is a problem, or a need that is not provided for, I would like the freedom to fix it myself! Let me provide an analogy: If the hard drive in my laptop breaks or becomes too small for my needs, I don't go and complain to Dell and insist they fix it, I go to a computer shop (whichever one best suits me best, not necessarily Dells) and I buy a new one, then I come home and I install it.

On a related note, has the question been answered as to whether GCzII will be open sourced?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Peregrin5:
Well I can see in the future, even if it would make geocaching far more difficult, a splitting of the community into those who would rather promote the non-monopolization of geocaching by using other databases, and those who are simply content to stay with GC. This split may even be characterized by a few subtle differences in the way these two communities play the sport. The open-source community might be more dedicated players who are more devoted to the sport, while GC takes those who are being newly introduced to it, as they've put a lot of resources into making geocaching a bit more accessible to newer less experienced players. Sooner or later, this change will probably reflect itself in the available third party applications.

Instead of working with Tom however, GC seems content to simply bar this program from ever being affiliated with it despite the tons of hours and work Tom's put into this. It's really disheartening. Irish doesn't have a good track record of opening up to others intruding on what he probably thinks is his sport. I think it's a waste of time to try affiliating this with GC and we should simply find a different database. It may not be as popular or all encompassing, but the quality of caches may be better. I too would not mind paying for this program if the price were reasonable. I just don't think an agreement will ever occur between outside developer's and the monopoly of GC.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maverick_TN:
According to Wikipedia, IE now has a 54.44% market share as of 3/2010

back on topic though..

Seems GS has now updated GZcII's status to an approved application.

http://forums.groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=242714&st=0&p=4238519&#entry4238519

http://forums.groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?act=ST&f=11&t=242896&st=0#entry4291731
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
Sorry, yes of course, I was thinking of the case where you are loading the GPX, but Previous List otherwise ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Lord.Nibbler:
Hi Tom :)

As my phone has standard wm menus that are not finger friendly, I'm using Finger Menu which works great with all my installed apps.

But it seems that Finger Menu doesn't behaves normally with your new released functions : the menu displays itself but when I'm choosing an item it doesn't execute the associated action :(

I don't know if you can fix this or if I rather must submit the issue to Finger Menu's author ? For now I added GCzII to the Finger Menu exclusion list.

Additional remarks :

- In Manage History the "3: Current location" seems useless as you can't save current location :)

- It would be nice to have at the bottom of the manage history window two buttons [<][>] like in main window instead of the combo box.

- Sometimes the software keyboard seems to go wrong : each time the main window is displayed I have the SIP that automatically displays itself ... yet when I'm entering an edit box and I would expect that the keyboard automatically displays itself it doesn't :rolleyes:

- Maybe you could replace the edit fields in the main window with combo boxes and add a little [+] button near the combobox to save the current text to history. It seems more ergonomic than popup menus and allow you to benefit of combobox scrollbars when there are a lot of items saved in the history.

Cheers,

Nibbler.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
Just noticed, landscape mode in the History only the very tops of the buttons are shown. I can activate 'em with the arrow keys, but not sure which button is which. :)

The history for coordinates should be in the geocaching XXX XX.XXX format. Ideally, so would the "home page" as well, but I suspect you have space issues with it on that page, if possible could you see if you could make it the format Geocaching uses everywhere?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
Okay, so it's not just me. I see this too. If I use the software keyboard, it seems like the SIP pops up constantly. If I don't use it, it never does, so it's like something is triggering it on every page change or something.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] paulpille:
Tom, sometimes when caching the coordinates are needed in different formats.

Could you add something like implemented on geocaching.com web site ?

When displaying the main cache's description site a feature called [other conversion] is offered (see attached examples below).

This could for example be implemented in GPS Monitor -> Menu -> Set Target Location.

What do you think ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jack_Brody:
Hey Tom,

looks good, navi key works as said, history is a great idea.

But as for screen no. 4: if you would support no more than one coordinate format, let it be WGS84. I see you struggle with room here, but if you removed the explaining text ("Enter the Latitude/Longitude and ..."), you would get additional row and could use convenient geocaching format:

N dd mm.mmm

E dd mm.mmm

- screens no. 7 and 8: the "Cache type" combobox doesn't make sense here, right? ;) (the same with "Exclude your owned or found items from results" checkbox)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jack_Brody:
Tom apparently uses the Advanced search for searching (http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest.aspx), take a look there and you'll see why it is only one checkbox ;). The same applies for you next demands:

- max # of caches to be downloaded

- radius in km/mi within which caches should be searched

I'm pretty sure Tom is able to code anything but for now let's stick with what gc.com gives us and give Tom time to build the essential functions so we can finally use the app for real geocaching. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] paulpille:
... more search config items:

- set limit to no. of downloaded log entries (may be better to read them before and extract important info 'by hand')

- define the folder on SD card where to store the geocache data

Moreover - refering to your first gcz version - after loading the configured cash list from geocaching.com website and zooming into one of them it appears the Hint field giving some help to quicker find a target.

Now it would be a nice feature if this Hint field could be edited in order to add some useful info picked up from the numerous logs red before a cache-tour.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
Aha! Yep, it is!

Too right, at least from what I can tell the input of XXX XX.XXX works. Can't tell 100% for sure of course, but sure seems too.

Attached at the bottom is a screenshot of the landscape problem I'm seeing.

Yeah, the SIP behaves normal unless it's used within GCz, then after, it seems like it pops up constantly. I'm using TouchPal, not sure if it matters.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
BTW, I realized this might be a little misleading. This only happens within GCz, it's not causing some global weirdness, and it goes away when GCz is exited and re-launched.

Beyond that I haven't a guess why it happens, but wanted to make it clear that it wasn't causing some system-wide SIP problems.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jack_Brody:
Oh yes, you're right, that does work. Thanks :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jack_Brody:
By the way Tom, you utilize registry for storing configuration. How about to change it to INI file one day? It would be more convenient for one to transfer settings to a friend (history) or just to backup the configuration before hard reset.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] paulpille:
+1

good idea :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] paulpille:
Works, thx :)

However I several times met the DMS format (Degree, Minutes, Seconds). It's sometimes used in Mystery Caches to make the calculation a bit harder.

But for sure, this is only a low priority / nice to have feature.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jmbillings:
I used GCz 1 for a cache earlier this week, and had a weird problem.

It was a multi - the first location was found fine, but typing in the co-ordinates for the second cache gave me a location 50 miles away, not less than a mile as it should have been?

Looking at it, i've just realised there was no way to set N/S/E/W in GCz 1 - so I bet i'd entered it as East. I just tried a -000 for the first part and it still came out as the wrong location though? Anyway, I'll go out and get a GPS fix with GCz 2 later, and make sure that does as expected! (I'm sure it will)

I still found the cache, I ended up using some sat nav software and the hint!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Drybonz:
Hi... I have downloaded GCzII .2.33 today and I am very interested in using it to start cache hunting.

I am having problems getting it to return nearby cache results and also cache results when I search by postal code. When I click the "Go" button, simply, nothing happens.

Is this software not intended for CDMA (I am Sprint)? I am using a HTC Diamond, and do have Google maps installed. The software is getting a GPS lock, I just am not able to find any cache locations with it.

Please let me know if I am doing something wrong, or if this is not possible with my device. Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] eyecannon:
Search is disabled for GCzII... it's just for testing right now.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] boufa:
Pretty sure that GZ2 is still only partially functional for testing only certain features. Namely they are testing the GPS functions. Keep checking back, I am sure at the current pace, they should have the rest working in a short time.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ScratchyPDX:
GCzII is still under development. Tom is only working on the GUI at this point. There aren't any hooks in place yet to interact with Geocaching.com. That's why you aren't seeing anything happen when you click "Go".

If you are really interested in using GCz for geocaching, get the latest released version. I think it is excellent. The link is on post #1 of this thread.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Drybonz:
Ah... thanks very much guys! I will check it out. :)

*edit* Yes, GCz .0.32 seems to be just fine! Can't wait to find one. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
That means people are no longer banned and they don't censor the name. That's it. It's not a sponsored or recommended program, and they still see that it violates their TOS.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maverick_TN:
Well, it may not be sponsored or recommended, but its usage is now authorized according to GS, so thats a start.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Physi:
I think you should calm down...

Toms App is for free, so you can't expect that it is uptodate after every change gc.com makes... It's a great app, but nothing he can live from. So just wait, he will give his statement if he has time...

Also gc.com won't make changes to their site only to keep out GCzII... Please first wait und think over the things you want to write and don't start this silly discussions every time... thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jw5801:
It's a good argument for going open source! That way instead of us all using the time we may otherwise have spent caching to argue and rant, we could have just made the necessary changes ourselves and carried on our merry ways.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
No, it's not authorized, i

they just do nothing on mentioning it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] doloop:
Perhaps we don't need full open source. We only need to edit the parser resource (Xpath ? list of regular expressions ?). If those resources were user editable, tom could keep his work close, and the community could do the sad work of constantly adapting to gc.com's html.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] derlbear:
Who said that? I WOULD pay for the app, but Tom doesn't want money. See this litte star next to my name? I donated money that I wanted to give Tom to the forums.. because Tom said that we should support the forum instead... so I did.

I would also pay for a premium membership if I had any advantages.. I mean, the most stuff there is for free. And I support the website by being a part of the community... telling others to use this website.. and guess what: I also had a premium membership until I recognized that I they do a lot for Iphone users, but next to nothing for WM users...

And I think that I'm not the only one who doesn't want everything for free.. and I know that it costs money to run the servers.. but have a look at what they do with the money they get from us (WM users)..

Cheers,

derlbear

Edit: @doloop: I totally agree.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lucasito:
please help me

hey there,

i was just wondering why my geocaching (nicque) does not show on google maps.

Everytime i press on google map, it says: Cannot find data. ( Program Files/GoogleMaps/GoogleMaps.exe).

how can i fix that, anyone knows, Pleas help...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Titus_Andronicus:
Menu>Options>Google Map Settings
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Donn66:
Okay I apologize for my rant about whining. I've also donated to this forum, but somehow missed the las part of the donation process that gives away stars. I know a lot of us here try to be good upstanding cachers, but I don't agree with the "caches belong to anyone and everyone" philosophy. This isn't fresh air we're talking about or even freedom of speach. I've hidden my share of tupperware out there and was a bit put out at first by GS's tactics so I read up on the sites rules and regulations a bit. We cache owners give GS the authority to manage our hides for us and with that give them the power to set the rules. If we don't like the rules, we have the option of not playing the game. It's pretty simple. Don't get me wrong. I LOVE GczII!! But js's analogy of replacing a harddrive just doesn't fly with me. You don't own GS or the caches they are managing for the cache owners nor is the internet at all free. There are costs involved, but most sites are willing to pick up the tab thanks to advertising dollars their sites generate. Let's try this analogy...

I got my drivers license and drove a ford pinto for years that barely did the speed limit. Then someone gives me a ferarri for free. Now I can drive 180 mph...or can I? That would be breaking the agreed apon rules when I got my license. If I never bothered to get my license, would I have to follow the rules if I chose do drive anyway?

Whether you're a premium member or not, if you have a GS account, the same rules apply. Yes those are blue flashing lights in the rear view mirror...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] acid|burn:
Any news from the GCzII delevoper? Another day without GCzII :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Gech:
Hi all,

I am really sorry for the late reply.

really busy right now even weekend, no rest time. :<

Updated GCzII. ver 0.2.35.41

1) "Cache not Found" issue fixed.

2) "Internet Connection Failed" issue fixed. (In case of proxy uname/passwd required)

http://www.nicque.com/PQz

PS) I only tested partial featues. (not all feastures tested.)

If you find problem, please post here.

I will try to see after this post as much as possible.

Once again, really sorry the inconvenience.

tom

*add)

I will be able to take only 1 hour break from Monday to Friday this week. (8AM~22PM)

How and when can I eat lunch. dooo :<
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Donn66:
No apologies needed Tom. Thank you for all your hard work!! You are the BEST!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Psyberdude:
Thanks Tom,

Your efforts are greatly appreciated.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Yankee.106:
THANX

So really thanx for our HERO, ehm Tom Hiro, You save us ...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jake Bullit:
I will come over and cook your lunch:rolleyes:

Thanks alot:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Babba067:
Danke schön Tom!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ZzetT:
Issue:

Waypoints of a multi cache which don't have coordinates are missing (they are needed because they can contain a description/hint)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] martinhe:
Glory

Tom, you are a king:rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jw5801:
Thanks Tom, you're a champ!

Free as in speech, not free as in beer. Not anywhere did I say I would refuse to pay anything or that I thought everything should be free. GS cover web hosting and maintenance of the web pages, and yes this costs money. However if the users are paying them a fee to cover this cost, then they should be able to access their own content in whatever way they please.

These are the rules, live with them? I'll follow the rules, but that doesn't mean I can't object to them and request or suggest a change to better suit their customers! My argument is that the rules should be changed, your argument is that the rules are the rules. Which reminds me of xkcd from a few weeks ago.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] equo:
Yeeeeehaaww!

On the road again...!

Thank You Tom!

Regards,

equo
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lohtse:
A huge thank you to tom for his hard work and support thank you..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zephxiii:
thank you sooo very much! I much prefer to use my Q9h to cache with than my iphone!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] derlbear:
Well, it's not that simple.

You got a drivers license and you pay money to get a Ferrari. You are not allowed to drive faster than 120 mph because gc.com says so. But gc.com allows Porsche drivers (iPhone users) to go 180 mph... although they had to pay the same price for the car!

Got it :) ?

Besides that, here in Germany we can drive as fast as we want on the autobahn :)

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANDDDDD THANKS tom!!!!

Cheers,

derlbear
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SdKfz.171:
Arigato gozaimas Tom, you've made lot of people happy now. Is there something we can do for you to make you happy? If you ever come to Prague, remember I owe you a few beers - and I really mean it seriously. Just send me a PM...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Titus_Andronicus:
Thank you! I ran apptodate and there it was! Thank you!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] RRRick:
Small Issue?

With the latest version (41), my "owned and found" caches are not being downloaded - regardless of that setting in "Search Settings". Anyone else experiencing this?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Yorkshiretaff:
Thanks so much Tom. Glad to be able to cache with ease again.

You definitely need to set up a beer fund... you'd never buy one again!

Also re previous post, my own and found caches coming down with no problem...

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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lohtse:
Same here anywhere near sheffield or manchester in uk tom just let me kmow beers on me.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Phil82de:
Hi Tom, thanks for your last update!

I found one little bugs:

* Some Caches don't get downloaded (example: I download 500 caches around GC10YW5 and this are some I noticed missing: gc1yj6x, gc1bgrc)

here one more:

* Archived Caches get this <span class="OldWarning Strike"> in its name
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] RRRick:
Missing Caches

Further to my previous post, it seems that the "owned and found" caches are missing when downloading based on "Search by Current Location". All caches appear to get downloaded when using other search criteria. ???
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] motaba:
Some caches are missing

First: Tom, many thanks for your hard work on GCzII.

Issue:

It seems GCzII can not find caches that I have in my watchlist in GC.com

Feature request (for far future):

Moon Azimuth

We have Solar Azimut which is very important to me. But sometimes I can not see Sun but only Moon.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mar-ine:
No apologies needed Tom. Thank you
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] shaggyguitarist:
Great Work Tom. Thanks for the update.

My owned and found are downloading ok, but cant get caches on my watchlist to download.

I experimented by removing the cache from the watchlist, searching again, and it showed up.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Scalar1111:
Thx, thx, thx u r great!:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bigzdog:
thanks for the update

I really missed the static maps
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] htcguyhtc:
Thanks for the update

Thanks very much for this update to the best caching program on the windows mobile platform :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fastcatcher:
Thanks for the update Tom!

It's really a pity that GS don't let you use their API, so that an update seems to be necessary every time they change their website. But thanks for your great support anyway!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] htc_touch hd:
Thank you so much Tom for the update. ;)

After few days without GCz it is clear one thing, this, or other app like that needs to be updated, gerularly maintained and further developed for the hughe GC community. All this situation is such a big shame for the GS. For the money we pay GS for premium, or we are willing to pay Tom we can have an custom app like we want to have... There is a time to change this without any doubts.

Bug report: Probably somebody mentioned that already, when searching by any criteria, in the list there are missing caches, which we have on the watchlist...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] djstern:
Tom, First of all, I'd like to thank you for taking the time to fix this program again.

Second, I'd like to apologize for all the whining and complaining of others on this site. I understand that you have other obligations and this program has to be worked on with the time you have available. I face the same issue with a couple of web sites that I run.

Fact is, even without online access to GS and using GPX files, this program ROCKS and is better than anything else out there.

To that end my only suggestion is to change the default settings to allow 500 caches to be imported from GPX files.

Again, thanks ever so much for the update on a fantastic program.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mickiexena:
Hi Tom !

Thanks for the update:)

Mickiexena
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] derlbear:
Tom, are you able and willing to tell us how many people downloaded the update? That would be very interesting, also during discussions with gc.com :)

Cheers,

derlbear
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DMan:
Thanks Tom! Looks like you have many followers :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
Check to make sure they aren't filtered, you can filter what gets downloaded. Options, Search Settings.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Phil82de:
someone reported that Caches on the Watchlist don't get downloaded, but I don't watch that Caches - It must be an other error
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] RRRick:
Yes, confirmed that the downloads weren't 'filtered' - also toggled that setting on and off - still don't get "owned or found" caches when downloading based on my location. Yet if I download based on postal code (here in Canada) then all the caches do download.

Certainly can be worked around - just a weird change (for me only?) with the latest release.