yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Good to hear.

I'm always interested in mirrors! Sites need to have 2Gb of disk space available and at least 40-50Gb of transfer per month. FTP access to the sites is good, although SSH/rsync is preferred.

The most need is in Europe at the moment - as the existing mirrors are in the US and Australia.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DAC324:
DeviceUpdate dead?

Hello,

I am just curious if DeviceUpdate could still be used or if it is gone for good now. I only get the "Error loading catalog..." error message when I start DeviceUpdate (Internet connection is verified working).

Kind regards,

DAC324
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Hi mate,

Yeah - after over 2 years of running it, I changed servers and found it would take almost a complete rewrite of a lot of the stable code to make it work in the new environment. As such, I decided to discontinue the project.

I did consider still doing the re-write, but the number of hours on it just wasn't worth it.

EDIT: I learnt some interesting things during it. I'll quickly summerise:

1) Total income from DeviceUpdate: $245AUD

2) Number of apps served until shutdown: Over 2 million

3) Approximate bandwidth used in 24 months: 1.2Tb

4) Rounded number of users: 980,000

5) Approx cost of hosting over 24 months: $480AUD

Only 3 people had premium subscriptions in the end - and it just wasn't enough to justify spending more time on it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DAC324:
Hello,

that's a real pity. Perhaps it would be possible to use a free space / hosting service from now on (I'd expect the number of users still interested in WM apps will constantly decrease and so will also the traffic for such a site).

Kind regards,

DAC324
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Well, the download system was VERY advanced. I had 4 mirrors worldwide and depending on where you were located, you'd go to a local mirror. The traffic quoted above was just for my site. I know the European mirror alone used to do 50-80Gb/mo every month until I shut it down.

The problem with free hosting sites is that it breaks the whole idea of having a seemless install. Nobody gives away space on high-bandwidth sites without at least having ad exposure. There wasn't the facilities to add this in.

I even toyed with the idea of doing micro-payments of $0.05c per app - which would have given me some full time income to work on the system - but people just aren't interested in donating or paying for these things these days.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Tabbe:
its really a pity & there are people who are still using your rom on 838pro with this app in it. but we have come to the end of Windows mobile so i dont think anyone will pay for any apps now.

Would really like to see this project to go on or as an open source project. so others can program & link up to their web server offering .cab
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] someoneee:
Off-topic,but I don't believe there is over 2000000 apps on windows mobile :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] calita:
please admin close these thread !!!!!

is annoying not get anywere with no download
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jimmybl:
CRCinAU, please contact me, i have some suggestion and wish to help you getting DeviceUpdate back online - there is no good app store on hole web like your was ... so, please contact me soon as possible :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
I'm still around :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] skippyd:
This one is the only one I know of

htc connection wizard is made for Sim type phones only (gsm) titan is CDMA
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Ah! That'd do it :)

What type device is this? To help me from getting confused, can people please refer to their devices by the OEM name only? This way I can easily track devices/progress.

If you don't know the OEM device name, check out this list:

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Soul_Est:
One of only two full appstore like (the other being the Pocket Download Manager). Gecko isn't near as polished as your DeviceUpdate and the Pocket Download Manager requires registration and a properly installed .NETCF 3.5. Just tested it out (after resetting!) and it works flawlessly although my device itself is unsupported as I use a Vogue (ID: VOGU100).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jug6ernaut:
The Fuze is HTC Raphael, congrats on release!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] skippyd:
it works great :-) for the titan
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
From what I understand, the Vogue is CDMA only - so I've set it up in the backend with CMDA defaults so everything should be working fine now on the Vogue. Also, if you know of any other hardware IDs for the Vogue (besides the VOGU100) it'd be handy.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nurkamol:
Thanks

Wow thanks for new version. :D

I will be tryed this version ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Applications for Developer accounts to the backend is now being accepted.

If you have an account you would like to have listed on Device Update - which includes free hosting of your application and help from myself on getting your applications ready for hosting - then please fill out the form at:

http://www.crc.id.au/deviceupdate/dev-account.pl

Applications can be QVGA or VGA for upcoming support of VGA devices in Device Update.

If people would like their favourite authors to make their software available on Device Update, please pass them a message with this link or the link to the application.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jim256:
Just itching for WVGA support!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] yayayay:
I second that.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Star-Lite:
great app, by far the best app store program available.

Some feedback:

* Ability to install apps to sd card, the Hermes has got a redicously low amount of program memory, so you *have* to install everything to SD to be able to have enough memory left for things like browser cache etc.

* More detailed download status indication, eg: Downloading Remote Desktop (35/523KB)

* More info @ the program info page: Size, supported resolutions, maybe a screenshot?

Question: How do I rate programs? I can't find the option to do that anywhere.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Soul_Est:
Thanks CRCinAU for the quick reply! I checked PDAdb.net for extra hardware IDs for the Vogue but there were none. If you need any extra hardware IDs for the database, just let me know. Thanks again!

P.S.: The program works perfectly now! May I include this program in some future ROMs that I'm cooking?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] skippyd:
Vogue is the touch version of the titan... so everything can be setup as the same...

only thing you could add is htc home plugin because there wont be a keyboard issue...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
At the moment, we use WCELOAD to install the cab files to the device. Sadly, this doesn't allow installing to anywhere but the internal memory of the device. I'm looking for another option, but for now, this is not possible.

This is more to do with a limitation of the .Net compact framework. There are plenty of examples of people doing this via the full .Net 3.5 framework, however none of them work with the compact framework. It is something I want to do however, but for now I haven't found a way that works.

This will probably happen eventually.

I spent hours creating the backend to support this, however I haven't written a registration routine to let people create accounts on the web site to rate the applications. Once this is done, people will be able to register on the web site to rate applications etc. We don't do this on the device to prevent vote stacking etc.

Sure! All cooks are encouraged to include DeviceUpdate in their ROMs. I really do recommend reading the following before attempting this though:

http://www.crc.id.au/deviceupdate/cook-howto.pl

Cool - HTC Home is available for the Vogue. Details at:

http://www.crc.id.au/deviceupdate/app-info.pl?appid=30
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] skippyd:
list of stuff that doesn't work with herald (gsm phone)

button 5 fix

camera support

comm vibe

flashlight

htc Home - works but setup for keyboard on hermes so the screen is upside down when you open the keyboard.

list of stuff that doesn't work with kaiser (gsm phone)

camera support

htc Home - works but setup for keyboard on hermes so the screen is upside down when you open the keyboard.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Awesome. Do you also have a list of hardware IDs for the Herald?

Sweet - I had those right then :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] trehouse:
Really great app!

I have a question...When I originally set this up it's creating an index I guess of my apps.

What is the the check box for with of all of my items and what gets downloaded when I check something off?

Do I select everything if I want it tracked and if so is it taking up tons of space?

Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] skippyd:
Device Ids that I know of for the herald are HERA***** and HERA10000
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Ok, I've added HERA100 and HERA11000 as the device as I've only seen those two referenced.

If anyone has a Herald that can test things and see if they have any Unsupported Device messages to let me know so I can look through the logs and see what the device ID is.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Yay! We've hit milestone number 1. After 3 days of DeviceUpdate v2 being released, the system has served up over 10,000 cabs to users across the globe.

The good news is that the backend seems to be handling things fine and is under less than 5% load.

We also now support a total of 6 devices - being:

# HTC Hermes

# HTC Kaiser

# HTC Titan

# HTC Polaris

# HTC Vogue

# HTC Herald

And there's more to come!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] greywolf:
Hi,

I am currently running ROM version Manilla2D (RevROM v6 Hybrid 21109/20931 - M2D Lite with non-Iolite M2D) on my Hermes and just forced to update to the latest Device Update version from my current version 1.8.1.0. All was well until I tried to install adobe reader and I got an error:

error installing wceload returned code 2147024629

A quick google revealed that the number may not be of any assistance diagnosing the problem. But then I press ok and was told to restart. When I restarted my hermes was reset to default :( No big loss though as most of my apps are curtosy of XDA Developers developers :)

Did it all again with the base build as I thought it may be conflicting with something I had installed and it happened again. May be a bug, thoughts? any similiar problems?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] greywolf:
Bit more information when I got the error I selected details:

-------------------------

DeviceUpdate.exe

WebException

Unable to read data from the transport connection.

At

System.Net.HttpWebRequest.finishGetResponse()

At

System.Net.HttpWebRequest.GetResponse()

DeviceUpdate.FileDownloadManager.DownloadTempFile(Uri source,int32 initalLength)

At

DeviceUpdate.Form1.DownloadApplicationsToUpdateThread()

-------------------------

Not sure if that helps
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Star-Lite:
aha, that makes sense.

I kinda like the way PDM does it tho, it downloads the cab files (to a user specified dir) and then just 'launches/executes' them, so the user will get the normal cab install screen. This way cabs can easily be installed anywhere. It also saves you the hassle of having to manage installation paths, localisation, the possibility of multiple sd cards etc.

PDM prolly uses .NET CF3 tho, so that exact system might not work with the current CF.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] vranikx:
nice and usefull application, too shame it doesn`t support HTC Raphael :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mr.jaguar:
does it not work on a raph? or it's not listed as a supported device?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] andrew-in-woking:
Install to Storage Card

Hi

I know that this point has been made in previous posts but I'd like to say that I would use this application if it had the option to install applications onto the storage card.

Thanks

andrew-in-woking
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
In the beta testing, the most common cause of this on the Hermes arena was that the user was using a 'big storage' ROM and their phone would hang after using up so much of the internal storage. After a certain percentage of the internal storage was used, the device would start getting write errors and then hang requiring a hard reset. Flashing with a 'normal' ROM that didn't hack out the extended ROM to give extra storage would work perfectly up until 100% memory usage.

Does any of this seem like what you have had happen?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
I'm working on a few ideas to make this happen... give me a few days. At the moment though you would lose the automatic install if you wanted to install to SD... Leave it with me though, I'll see what I can do.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] joshkoss:
CRC my friend, you are doing an amazing job!! KEep up the awesome innovations dude!! Loving it!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nikerossxp:
cool and useless! but:

1. have some graphic glitches on toshiba G900

2. in resco explorer 7.05 menu favorites (right-up corner) works with errors.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Are you able to post a screenshot so I can see what you mean? I don't have access to this device.

Best to check in the resco explorer thread to see if this is a known issue or not. Sadly I can't fix errors in the actual apps.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Version 2.0.8.0 is now available.

Change include:

v2.0.8.0 - 11-Feb-2009:

* Added option to use Shell Installer (allows installing to SD card if cabs allow & workaround of WCELOAD errors)

* Added option to skip data transfer warning at beginning of app.

* Added logic to check if CAB Security policy is enabled, if so only use shell installer (WCELOAD will always fail if this is enabled)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Delay in supporting VGA phones.

Hi all,

As I don't have access to any devices that are VGA, I have been unable to test just about everything to do with VGA phones.

If you want VGA support real-soon-now, please fire me a donation so I might acquire one ASAP and do my testing/development on it and make it available to the public ASAP.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wanwarlock:
good stuff here. will try it on my touch pro & report back.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] red_hanks:
Nice app. Will give it a try and feedback..

--------------------------

Download link is not working???
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Sorry, should be fixed now... I forgot to sync the mirrors again... I'm so used to it happening automatically when working with Device Update - I keep forgetting to run it manually when I add a new download by hand :P
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] veyka:
Also, just a note, if you find a cab isn't working, pleases post a note, they have only been tested on a Hermes before being put live, due to it being the device I and CRC have.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] red_hanks:
Here's what I've got...

I am using HTC BlueAngel with WM6.5Pro Beta. Do I need to install any certificates? Or BA is not yet supported?

Device Update v2.0.8.0
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Ah. The BlueAngel isn't supported yet - hence Unsupported Device being displayed. I should really make the client handle unsupported devices a little more gracefully......
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] red_hanks:
Looking forward for the next version so I can use it on my BA. Thanks. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kmax12:
parnership

have you seen GECKO? it is another app much like yours. have you tried to get in contact with its developer and maybe work together?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
This has previously been answered here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3295854&postcount=18
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] greywolf:
Hi,

Yep your spot on, I re-imaged with a normal ROM and it works perfectly.

Thanks for you help :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Ramasoft:
Hi mate,

I installed on Sprint Diamond and still say Unsupported device? Any news for the Diamond. Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3306664&postcount=53

Basically I don't have a VGA device - nor access to one to test things on. It will take a bit longer to support VGA devices as I don't want to enable something that may cause issues to VGA device users.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
Can you not test in a VGA emulator for now?

I would happily beta-test for you if that makes things easier.

I also get the "Unsupported Device" with a GSM Diamond.

This looks very promising, and the back-end seems far more established than anything else...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Of all the emulators I have tried, none are able to establish a network connection - which means I can't test the actual DU application. If anyone knows how to do this, please let me know...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Added some nice server side logic to support developers who have an existing clientbase using AppToDate. This will allow developers to keep their existing AppToDate clientbase updated while only updating information in the Device Update administration backend.

Server Side Change - 13-Feb-2009:

* Added backwards compatibility for AppToDate from the main DeviceUpdate administration interface. Allows developers to upload their application and provide an external URL for keeping existing AppToDate users in sync with Device Update users.

Now shown on the web site:

http://www.crc.id.au/deviceupdate/dev-adv.pl
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Well, today has been a busy day.

It's with great pleasure that I can announce that VGA devices are now supported. I also present v2.0.8.1 of DeviceUpdate :)

Here is a list of todays changes:

v2.0.8.1 - 13-Feb-2009:

* Added support for VGA devices.

Server Side Change - 13-Feb-2009:

* Added backwards compatibility for AppToDate from the main DeviceUpdate administration interface. Allows developers to upload their application and provide an external URL for keeping existing AppToDate users in sync with Device Update users.

* Added support for the following devices:

HTC Blue Angel (QVGA)

HTC Blackstone (WVGA)

HTC Raphael (VGA)

HTC Jade (VGA)

HTC Diamond (VGA)

O2 Atom (QVGA)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jim256:
WOAH. Both of those things are huge!! Added HD support, and APPTODATE support!?!

NICE, will download and give her a go!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
And don't forget, by selecting Menu -> Options -> Use Shell Installer, you can also choose to install applications to your storage card!

Ahhh hell with it... because I'm on a roll, I've just added support for the HTC Opal range of devices too. And the XDA Zest
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jim256:
Right on I'll keep that in mind (tho it shouldn't be TOO big of an issue on the ole HD).

For starters, to be honest I didn't even know that a pointui 2 beta even existed! Just installed :)

Thanks,

Jim.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TurasPl:
Hi CRC

Thanks for the lovely tool - but there is 1 problem.

In first version, afte instalation programs vanished from the list.

In present version 2.0.8.1 they stays on the list.

Checked minute ago on Opera Mobile and Google Maps.

Please advice

Maciek
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
In the emulator images (I'm using the 6.1.4 images).

File->Configure->Network (tab) -> Enable NE2000 PCMIA... Selected the "Connected network card" and check the checkbox.

You need Virtual PC 2007 to do it though. http://www.microsoft.com/Downloads/...02-3199-48a3-afa2-2dc0b40a73b6&displaylang=en

And, that does work on XP Home no matter what it says!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
Works great on my Diamond!

The only issue I have is that if no applications are installed and one accidentally hits "Install" it says pops up a message saying it installed 0 applications and then exits. Any way to have some logic that says "No applications selected"?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
I did actually manage to get it going using the Cellular Emulator tool. It pretends to be a phone network to the emulator and therefore allows a GPRS connection! :)

This is why I've managed to support VGA correctly now :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Not quote sure what you mean here mate?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Hmmm - Looks like I was missing some OEM Hardware IDs for a number of devices that really should be known... I've added these to the backend and users of the Diamond, Raphael, and a few others should notice that they don't get a false "Unsupported Device" error now.

Will keep monitoring this over the next few hours and adding device IDs as I notice them...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hanackin:
just wanted to thank you for this app !:cool:

Nice job :D

thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hobbbbit:
You can do it a bit easier. Go to "Windows Mobile Device Center" or ActiveSync if you are on XP. Without device connected open up "Mobile Device Settings" and select "Connection Settings". If you have Windows Mobile SDK installed on the machine (as I would imagine you do), you should have an option for "DMA" under "Allow connections for one of the following:", select that. Also make sure that "Allow data connections on device when connected to PC" is checked. Then from Visual Studio's Device Manager start the emulator, right click on it and select cradle. That will emulate ActiveSync network sharing on your emulator. Hope that helps.

I haven't had a chance yet to try out the software, but it looks like a very cool project. I do have one question though, I would imagine that if I would be the one writting an application like that I would have WebServices on the backend serving the list of application over to the client. If that's the way the software is written, do you have any plans of releasing APIs for the WebServices in the future, to possibly allow other front-end interfaces to use your infrastructure? For example, most of the newer devices are coming with hardware video chips now, and a list-like interface can really use hardware acceleration to render more smoothly. I, for example, have a .NET library that I wrote that would create those types of lists and render them using OpenGL (hardware accelerated). I could write a front end software to serve your webservices on devices with OpenGL support (hypothetically speaking. I'm currently working on my own projects anyways:-))
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hatori:
Please inform, Which folder the program save the downloaded CAB files on PPC??
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] johnchan78:
So sad, no SE Xperia X1 support... forgot what the HTC codename is though :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
The Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 is known as the Kovsky. The interesting thing is that from my access logs, I can see a few possible candidates: X1i, X1a or X1. These may or may not be the Kovsky and I'm trying to narrow this down.

When I am able to find out if one (or more) of the above codes are actually the Kovsky, I will add support for it.

EDIT: Looks like the codes for the X1 are: X1, X1a, X1c and X1i. Added all four models to Device Update, and all should be dandy for those with the X1 :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Ameet:
HTC Diamond is shown as supported on the website but in the application shows an error that this device is not supported :rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Hmmm - The OEM IDs I have for the Diamond at this point are:

HTC Touch Diamond P3700

Diamond

MDA_compact_IV

HTC_Touch_Diamond

DIAM500

Touch_Diamond

Looks like I missed the ID: HTC Touch Diamond P3490

I've added this to the backend, and all shoudl work ok now.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Ameet:
Working cool :D Thanks brother :D Great initiative.. Already bookmarked this thread ;)