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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] peacock93:
Chainfire,

I'm having the same problem plus after a while data quits working all together and I have to soft reset. When I power on the switch to 3G happens fairly quickly but it doesn't make an actual connection. This isn't a problem at first because if I go to Opera or another data application it will connect but the longer I run without a reset it will start taking longer and longer to get a connection and then finally no connection at all will be established. Weatherpanel, TouchFlo Stocks, TouchFlo Weather; these programs will not connect properly and I haven't found a way to add a program to the whitelist manually. Once I uninstall WMLongLife everything starts working again. I'm using a Sprint Touch Pro with the latest EnergyROM dated 9/20. I hope this information is of some help.

peacock93
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Chainfire:
Odd - will be looked at :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cnzqy1:
A request of making a simple band switching application

Hello Chainfire, I hope you can make a small program for me. Can you make a simple band switching tool without GUI? Just launch it, if is in 2G mode, switch to Hybrid mode; if is in Hybrid mode, switch to 2G mode; then kill itself. Only compatible with MSM75xx is alright, but you can use config.ini(or something else) to make it compatible with other chipsets.

I would highly appreciate your work! Hope you can make it for me(and a lot others who want it)! Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Nagrom Nniuq:
That's actually exactly what happens to me.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
Thanks for all your work Chainfire! :) Installed the update, but still having the same problem... :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Chainfire:
Please imagine I am 8 years old, have never heard of Sprint, and do not know what roaming is. Then explain it again, with that in mind. Perhaps then I will understand what you mean :)

I will try to replicate this behavior, there may be questions later :)

Yes I know this issue was not fixed. I will look at it soon!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] peacock93:
Chainfire,

Just let me know what you need me to try or any questions that I can answer. I love the program! When it is working for me my battery life goes up quite a bit!

peacock93
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ragnascroutch:
Nice and great software ! Thank you very much and keep up the good work ! :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cnzqy1:
I have tried the newest version, but still find there are something I don't want and sometimes annoying, so I still hope you can make a simple manual band switching app. Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] high_noonan:
Latest installed (as of the date of this posting) on my Sprint Mogul.

RTFM, thanks.

Seems to be working!

I had selected Treat 2G as Roaming, and it did not want to get online at all.

Unchecked that, soft reset and it is all happy now.

I like the vibrate when it switches modes, but now that I know that it is working, I might disable that. Trying to SAVE the battery with this application, right?

THANKS!!!!!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lexluthor:
Just found this program. Looks very interesting.

I, too, think I might just want a standalone band switcher, so maybe consider that.

In the meantime, I think I found a little bug in my initial tests.

If I'm in the application specific settings screen and I click the windows ok at the top instead of the wmlonglife ok, the application freezes us and I need to restart my device.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lexluthor:
Ok, first of all, let me say I really want to like this app. I'm in poor 3G areas much of the day and have always just left my phone in 2G mode 24/7 to save battery (and for me, it makes a huge difference). I have a mortscript to change to 3G when I want to use 3G, but that takes a few seconds to execute and doesn't get used as much as it should.

Anyhow, I have a CDMA Touch Pro.

When I'm running WMLongLife, my applications don't connect to the internet for maybe a minute.

For example, I turn wifi on and then load internet explorer.

I pull up a web page and it says connecting for about a minute and then finally connects. From there, as long as the app stays open, no problems.

If I close IE and then reopen it right away, it takes another minute or so to connect again.

Additionally, if while IE is still open in the background and working and I open another program, say Opera Mini, that program then takes a minute to connect. Even during that minute time, I can switch back to IE and transfer data.

So basically, upon any applications opening, it's taking a minute before it starts transferring any data.

It almost seems like something (WMLongLife, I guess) is blocking the application from connecting for some period of time.

Same thing happens with wifi off and just in 2G/3G switching mode.

I'll keep the app installed today in case you want me to run some testing, but obviously, I need to uninstall it as I can't use my phone this way.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Chainfire:
Some event is "misfiring" in this case. Please try soft-resetting again. If that doesn't fix the issue, then uninstall it, it is a bug.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lexluthor:
I have gone through soft resets and same thing.

I guess I'll hope you can figure it out and try it again when you have another update.

If you want me to try anything for you, let me know.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nightlife31:
I'm hopefully awaiting the next update. From the start I have the same problem as mentioned before, that after automatic switching the mobile cant find a network. As a test, I left it on GPRS all day and it appears to use much less energy, so this might be the solution I have been looking for as my HTC Diamond2 often runs out of battery before the end of the day.

I do have a feeling the manual selection between the different functions (2G, 3G auto, 3G only, WMlonglife controlled) doesn't always work. Perhaps this is a bug. Being able to see which one is selected would be a great improvement.

Last, the items below status on the home screen are not explained in the manual. Perhaps it could be added.

Chainfire, thanks for all the effort. This really appears to be a very welcome program!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Chainfire:
Both your issues are probably related. In a test version for p50kombi we did solve the switching issue but alas no release yet. Fixing that might fix your other problem as well.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mavermc:
Any chance of this working on the omnia i910 ? verizon model with CMDA?

Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] erdoke:
I have just uninstalled it from my Omnia, because it could not switch bands, but blocked internet access for every application for minutes, even for those on the white list. From the posts above it seems that this problem was introduced in latest version(s).

I am waiting for a fix, this software is exactly what I need.

BTW, is there a standalone version of the manual band switching part of the program, so that I can use it until a fix is released? Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] qwe123a:
Same problem here. With v0.61.205 it takes over a minute to connect to the internet and it considerably overall slowed down my touch pro (CDMA-Sprint)

Another issue is my inability to get weather data with the app running. Upon an uninstall the phone returned to normal.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] muyoso:
Again, same problem as detailed above. Every program that needed 3g and that I whitelisted would just hang for nearly a minute when launched. Opera for example would load fine and then just display a white screen for probably 50 seconds before 3g was enabled and connected, and then it would continue on to the website.

This program is so promising, I hope these bugs can be fixed.

Edit: What would be ABSOLUTELY perfect is if the programs ONLY function was to disconnect data after a selected time of inactivity and after the connection went to standby. Kind of like the registry tweak does, but without all of the negative side effects that goes along with it. You have this function in the program already, but its very confusing to have to white list programs and read through a wall of settings.

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rurou:
Thanks for the great program... finally a bandswitch program that works with i780! I hope at least you make the bandswitch free forever :)

And for my problem... When I use internet sharing it doesn't switch to 3G. It works with IE though... (don't know about other program.. haven't tested it yet). When I run internet sharing and press connect, there's about a minute delay until the device is ready to make connection (using either bluetooth or USB), but the band didn't switch.

Manual bandswitch-ing does work... which is nice.

I'm on i780 with the latest south east asia official firmware.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] djkasmic:
i have installed your great application. but switching to 2G when screen turns off doesn't work for me!

my device is the touch pro 2 gsm.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Chainfire:
IMPORTANT NOTICE

If you have the "one minute delay" issue with connecting to the internet (

without

it switching bands), something is not functioning properly. It means the WMLongLife core is not responding at all! Is it running? Did you soft-reset (twice) after install? in the config app, there are some debug values on the first page, please list them here!

Some background: One of the components of WMLongLife blocks the "make a connection to the internet function" applications call. It then calls into the WMLongLife 'core' to ask it what it should do - switch bands, block the connection, whatever - and this has a timeout of exactly 60 seconds. If you have this "one minute delay", this therefore means the 'core' is not responding at all.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mlambert77:
I have the same issue (the hanging for a minute before connecting) with my Touch Pro. I did to the soft-reset twice after installing and still have the problem.

Here's my debug settings:

Coverage: 3G

App/3G: SCRN

Conn/2G: None

Wanted: 3G

Abort: None
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] holy_moly:
Hello,

I tried your App with the LG KS20 (Qualcomm MSM7200 Chip).

Tested it with the following Band settings (Auto, UMTS, GSM 800/1800, GSM 1900). But each time your App tries to switch the Band (pop up message appears) my KS20 could not reconnect to the network. Just searching and searching. I have to activate flight mode (deactivate phone) to get it reconnect to my providers network (O2 UMTS & GSM 1800).

Will there be a fix for this problem in near feature?

THX for answering
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Osteo:
Just upgraded to the HTC Imagio (Topaz CDMA I think) and found your app. Switches bands just fine but like above gives me the 60 second timeout before getting on to data for Opera and IE.

I'll keep checking the thread as I don't need 3G and when the timeout is gone, I'll reinstall.

I'll reinstall if you need any info from the prog or phone.

Thanks for working on this!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] erdoke:
In my case (i900 Omnia) there was a process (WMLongLife.exe?) and also a service running when the described behavior occurred. I have no idea what else should have been running.

I made a soft reset at least 5 times and even a complete turnoff and on cycle, did not help.

Cannot provide debug values until the weekend, I have already removed the application (removing was flawless).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SwimmerBoy:
I've tested in HP614c but no great success

I think is due ti the chip...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] depp2web:
Nice idea, unfortunately it froze my Acer F900 :(

But I still have one question:

I'm seraching an app which just powersdown the 3g or 2g when I press the power button, and repowers it when ich wake up the phone.

Reason behind it is: I'm just using for data only, so i switch the radio of when I put it back in the pocket, would that be possible with your app?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] acc49ers:
this is a great app. been using it the last couple days and it works great. one little thing that happens though that can get annoying is that if im running lets say opera using wifi and then my screen turns off automatically after a minute then my wifi disconnects from the network when the screen turns off and so when i turn my screen back on it takes a few seconds for wifi to connect to the network and in that time wmlonglife thinks theres no wifi connection so it turns on 3g but when the wifi connects after those few seconds then wmlonglife switches to 2g. would it be possible to include an option for wmlonglife to detect if wifi is turned on and to not switch to 3g even if wifi isnt actually connected to a network? sorry for the long description and hope this makes sense.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SwimmerBoy:
How do your know how to choose the right settings?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zalooa:
Great program first and foremost

Snazzy graphics very useful function why just the other day i said i wonder if there is a program that will switch to 3g when opera mobile opens and switches back to 2g when i close it and ta-da. Great program very few problems with it once you have the settings the way you like this really should have been implemented by HTC at least someone is on the ball with practical use of a cellphone. Thanks a lot for this software

Minor issue

You posted that 0.61 will stop working as of february is there something wrong with 0.61?

Other than that you my friend know whats up! two kudos for u brotha!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sqoerk:
Trendmicro handles it as a virus: PAK_Generic.005
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] adammckraken:
Hey, I tried your app, because I was intrested it turned out that i dont need it much (i have free internet, and no problem with battery), and also, when I configured an app in WMLL's popup menu, and pressed OK it froze out, so I uninstalled it. Now I have a problem since that, because I cant get 3G! I'm using an T-Mobile MDA Vario IV (Touch Pro), with WM 6.1. When I try Internet Sharing on my PC its only runing on EDGE, I try on my device Skyfire, Exploler, Opera, still just EDGE, no HSDPA! Tried to look up all the setting, Advanced Tweak programs, and everything, but I cant figure it out! Could you help in that?! And by the way, I uninstalled it the way you described! Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wudangnic:
Sound good, but....

I tried your app and is switching the 3G/2G bands as you said, but it also drain out my battery in few hours. So, unfortunately I had to remove it.

Nice try anyway! So wish you luck in future!

Samsung Omnia i900
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rorytmeadows:
me too, I need help!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] marvi0:
are you sure

mate are you sure its not something else you installed on your phone draining your battery because true to its purpose for me personally it actually saves my battery power and am sure most of the people who have used this brilliant piece of software agree with me
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Discostrings:
I'm looking forward to trying this once you work the 60 second kink out!

I'm using a CDMA Touch Pro on Alltel and I often don't have the best EVDO signal. My battery life (with a usage scenario of doing absolutely nothing with the phone except turning the screen on a few times a day) can be as bad as around 6-8 hours. Changing to the Telus radio helped, and the idle time is great if I leave it in 1X RTT mode. I've been using a mortscript to toggle EVDO on when I want it, but it's not the ideal solution to have to switch it manually.

I would happily pay $20-$30 for a utility like this. Ideally, though, you would not ever have to sell it to the end-user--perhaps if you could create a pretty bulletproof auto mode, you could you could sell this to microsoft/htc to incorporate into the OS, so everyone could benefit. It's something that's sorely needed, as I'm sure I'm not the only one whose bad 3G reception turns his phone into a six-hour pocket heater.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Black1982:
In my Comm Manager I can turn 3g on/off. Have you tried this?

WMLongliglife saves me a lot of battery as my school is located in a zone where the phone is constantly switching from G to 3G. The only drawback I get with this app is that it takes a long time (> 1 min>) to turn the connection on. I guess it's the same issue that is described by other people here. I also love the userfriendly interface and how the app askes me how to handle a new process when it tries to connect!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] stealth21:
i there...

Guys i have a problem, thisi s my first install of this program, its fine working but i'm trying to configure the pro's that i want..

I'm coming to the screen that lets me choose 3G, usb, background condition, and time settings ..

I'm choosing the one's that i prefer.. and can't submit!

ı'm pressing the X or OK but no response from the program :(

It just says "Please configure application's settings"

Any idea?

Whats wrong?

BTW i'm using Samsung Omnia ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gpoint:
Oh man you're a genius. Was looking for an app doing this for months now!

Will test it...hope we'll be able to configure our 2g/3g applications list soon.

Thanks!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] uniqueboy:
Please can you add the option to restore already shrivelled gonads? (not me a close friend!)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Illodin:
I Prefer balls to diamond

Mr. Man (Chainfire)

This application will be peace of art :)

I've tested it for a while. Some reason it doesn't switch back to 3G after I've executed Opera.

I've got:

HTC Diamond 2.03.401.2 wwe

Rom date 12/23/08

Radio 1.09.25.23

Protocol 52.51.25.26H

Opera 95: 15316

I'm looking forward next version :)

Br, Illodin
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Chainfire:
Now after Omnia I also have i780 working. Yay :)

A friend hmm? ;) I'm afraid I'm going to have to refer you to a hospital.

First, Opera is a *****... had to do some special coding to detect wether it is running or hidden (Opera doesn't actually quit when you close it). Just noticed a few hours ago there is a bug in the app detection routine (probably one of my performance improvements things going bonkers), try closing it and restarting the app, then it will likely switch to 3G.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DaVince:
Nice! for i780! Thanks!

Oh yeah.. my balls will thank you for this.

I will name one of my future children Chainfire! :D

or maybe not.. lol :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Chainfire:
Yar I have not extensively tested on i780 though, but the base should work. Perhaps data disconnect will not. I'll let you test that though... Support is in 0.2 (not out yet).

------ EDIT -------

Just a heads up to you folks:

0.2 is coming along very nicely (now with i780 and Omnia support), but I'm not sure if I'll release it within a few days. I've done a lot of work converting the code so it can be turned into a service (which is what we want: a service with a control panel app, instead of a normal app). However, more testing, thinking and analysis of unexpected behaviour have lead me to believe I need to rewrite like half the logic code to get it working the way I want it to. Not sure if I'll release 0.2 before or after that. Time will tell, just FYI :)

0.2 does not include all those features you want, but is more an effort to make sure the base is sound. After that is clear, we will go further :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DaVince:
That's fine. I would probably just hate it if autodisconnects when I actually don't want to. As long as it can stay connected while switching, then it's ok.

Yes.. I definitely agree on this one. It should be a service rather than normal exe. Don't rush it though, quality is still priority. I'll test once you release 0.2.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Soul_Est:
My apologies Chainfire on the hasty reply! I'm a bit excitable when I see such a promising idea take root.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Chainfire:
Hehe, well it seems not that many people are excited about it (I still am myself though, and I will take this further, though my agenda is really full next couple of weeks)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] scotchua:
I'd be a lot more excited if i lived somewhere with 3G :P
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tman1425:
Dont doubt yourself. I wasn't going to post, but I just wanted to tell you that I am in fact very exciting about the work you are doing on this. I'm sure there are others also who just arent posting ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moory3003:
:)Grrreat work Chainfire!!!! my balls are feeling the benefit already!!!! keep it up!!!!;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Manchurian:
Very nice work Chainfire!

Nice to see one of the best programmers on this site has gotten a hold on a i780! I am willing to do some testing on this device also because;

First: The i780 needs this app with it's ****ty batterylife,

Second: I don't want three-legged kids later in life because at this point I feel the need to be able to watch pr0n anywhere, anytime :).

Great job!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nir36:
Alright, my head spends WAY too much time thinking about PDAs.

the deal is, that some of us (all of us?) plug our PDAs in for recharge when we go to sleep. thing is, that the phone keeps recharging AFTER the battery is fully charged. this isn't healthy for our battery since a few tens to hundreds of nA still flow throw the battery in addition to what is needed to keep the device on... nevermind - point is, maybe an option to virtually "disconnect" the phone after the charge meter reads 100 would be a good feature.

Actually (and i'm not gonna go into this electricitywise), disconnecting it at 99% would be even healthier for the battery.

Not sure if it's even possible.. since I don't know if charging has anything software-related.. but if so..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Chainfire:
Thx guys.

Nir: I'm not sure about that either, but I can look into it. There is an option to not charge when connected to USB somewhere so there is a chance there's something software related there. On the to-do list!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nir36:
Oh here,

in Settings/power/battery

there's a checkbox for: When device is turned on, do not charge the battery when connected to the PC.

and we already know that it's possible to read the battery meter.. so simulating this checkbox for a specific battery staus is probaly possible. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] xperian:
Don't rush it with the battery loading thing. It's not needed. Every modern battery (Li-Ion, Li-Po) has the necessary circuitry logic built-in to prevent current from flowing through the battery when fully charged (it only starts charging when current drops to about 90-95%). You can read up on the necessary steps the charging unit goes through to keep the battery good e.g here:

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery#Guidelines_for_prolonging_Li-ion_battery_life

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_ion_polymer_battery

So, please don't overreact on the battery thing, you might actually do more harm than good to the battery.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nir36:
this is generally true. the thing is, that the base for verification of a charged battery depends on a few tens or hundreds of nA as to differentiate between a fully charged battery and.. one that isn't. It doesn't really keep charging it like before, but it needs to keep a certain status for it, and this status costs those nA's.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] stickman:
Wow, thanks a lot for this app, I've dreaming to have something like this for ages.

I'm only interested in QWERTY mobiles and given you're including support for i780, I might get one once I check some reviews on the device itself.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nir36:
ahh, Chainfire effects the PDA market...