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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] adammckraken:
First; thanks for trying to help! :) but sadly, that's not an option for me, in my comm.man. I can do following: Data Connection ON/OFF , Wi-Fi ON/OFF , Bluetooth ON/OFF , Airplane Mode ON/OFF

So Data Com. is for 2G/3G wich should be automatically chosen (and 3G should be preferred) I guess, because until I tried this app, it worked this way! I tried also waiting a few minutes, tried it on different locations, where I'm absulutely sure is 3G! I'm guessing, that there could be a registry haching option, it's just, im not that in this stuff enought to know what to do...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] adammckraken:
Yeah this is the other thing, I have the same problem as well, this is why I don't really wanted to use it, cause, it's freezing out, or what..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lexluthor:
Not sure if you guys are seeing the same thing as me. I've uninstalled because of the 1 minute to start internet bug, but if I recall correctly, if I'm in that settings screen and I click my system ok (up in the top right), it freezes the program. You have to use the ok or whatever button it is inside the program to save the settings.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] stealth21:
Sorry, i didn't get it..

So which buton is it that saves all settings?

I can't even close the application, i do it all the time via Showcase Task Manager..

There is no X or an OK button for closing the pro..

My X is at the buttom of the screen (MinMobile 6.5)

Not like yours.. (like HTC Task Manager - top of the screen)

Its not even visible!

Note: Im using Ryzry 23071 latest rom...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] adammckraken:
Yup, I know, tried that inside the app OK button, no response for me, nor for the inside the app X button(actually, nothing respondes except start menu button), and after that cant do anything else, than shut it down with taskman.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] acebone:
Uh

:confused:

I installed it, and now I can't connect at all!

I didn't touch anything, I just installed it and rebooted, and since then I've had no phone - just a pocket computer :-(

I can't make calls or SMS or anything at all

I have a HTC Diamond2

any ideas???
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] GLO:
try to reboot, or soft reset.

If you still have no luck then uninstall the cab, then reboot and try again.

I dont think this would affect your calls at all.

It works fine on my Kaiser.

Are you low on memory? Perhaps insuffient memory has corrupted the install.

hope that helps a little.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] acebone:
Uhh - pheew fixed!

No it was nothing like that. Apparently all my network settings got jumbled by wmlonglife. Since I haven't got the faintest clue about these settings, it took quite a bit of fiddling to get back in business.

Alas I am not able to recreate some useful steps for anyone else getting this problem, far too much fiddling and far to little know-how :)

But it seems that nothing gets broken as such, everything is working, it's just configured wrong - so if you experience the same, I am sure you could call your provider (using another phone of course :D ) and just go 'help!' my phone won't connect!'
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] adammckraken:
Hey there, I figured out the problem, tought I share with ya!

Go to Start -> Settings -> Personal -> Phone -> Band ,and there is "Select your network type" it was on GSM by me, I changed it to Auto, and voila, I got 3G!! Hope I could help with it! ;-)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] blublub:
FINALLY this is the MOST USEFULL toll for Windows Mobile!

I have used symbian phones in the past and they could bet set to ASK whether to connect to a data service AND if you want it what connection should be used AND the connections where closed after some idle time - those things I missed badly in WM. - Not everyboday has an unlimitted data plan!

Now with WM longlife at last idle connections are closed automatically :-).

Is there actuelly still developing going on, and is there a way to donate?

Is it acutally possible to make WM look for a specific WIFi connections before using HDSPA etc. ? i.e. if the "Home" profile is beeing used??
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] master4g:
Hey, I ran into this program by mistake but im glad I did as this was exactly what i needed and was dreaming of.

But Im also having the 1 minute delay problem. Was there a previous version which also performs the basic functions of this program and didn't have this bug? (or another big bug for that case) If so can you please post that in the OP until this problem gets fixed?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Chainfire:
Yes this is still under development. Currently hacking it up into smaller easier testable parts, then put some heavy tested on those parts, and then throwing them back together. This is a timely process, but alas it is needed to find these weird issues.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] stealth21:
Some of the Windows Mobile 6.5 rom dont have a OK button on the top of the screen!

Is that possible to implement an OK button to the program, just to save the configurations made inside the configuration screen!

This program is fine in 6.1, but not useable in WM6.5..

We're exiting the program vie showcase taskmanager, and the program doesn't save its configuration!

Ok button should do it useable!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Chainfire:
Are these official ROMs? Or custom? If custom, do you have a link to the threads of some specific ROMs that have this issue?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Chainfire:
Also, at all users with the 60-second delay issue

Could you use a registry editor, and check if the following registry value is present:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\PhoneNetSelMode\ManualNet

If so, remove this key. Please let me know if you have this key, and if deleting it fixes the issue (it does for a few of the testers I talk to outside of XDA).

Note you may have to soft-reset for the removal of this key to have any effect :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Osteo:
Chainfire, I've checked my registry and that key isn't present and I did have the one minute delay in connection. I've uninstalled your program currently (but check this thread daily for updates) so is that registry entry supposed to be there without the prog installed?

Either way, I'll check back tomorrow....

Oh, I am on the HTC Imagio.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] master4g:
hey, i reinstalled the program to check the registry... and the registry key is not there.

btw, im still having the problem, and I have the CDMA HTC Diamond.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Chainfire:
Ok that's cool... removing that key fixes a problem, not necessarily your problem ;)

Please do make sure that we are talking about the same problem, though...:

When I say "60 second delay problem" I mean that even if you already have a connection programs that use the internet just freeze for 60 seconds. If you are just talking about the time it takes to switch networks, then that's a different thing (this is signified by your connection icon disappearing and getting the tower icon with three animated dots for a while, while your phone searches for connection again in a different 2G or 3G mode).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] master4g:
yes, i have the problem when the program freezes even though i am supposed to have a connection already.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] stealth21:
Of course its ot an official ROM ..

Samsung hasnt released yet 6.5 ROM for in turkey for omnia i900.

U can c the rom i'm using here 23071..

There are lots of screenshots available :)

http://www.modaco.com/content/i900-...n/290203/custom-wm6-5-roms-for-i900-by-ryrzy/
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Paperless:
Diamond CDMA on WM6.5, Opera 9.5B16643, WMLongLife0.61.205

ROM: 5.2.21840.5.0.60 Mighty ;)

I did soft-reset (twice).

* I don't have this registry key: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\PhoneNetSelMode\ManualNet

When I click on an internet shortcut, it changes to 3G and freeze for 60s then send the page. Same problem with other apps requesting a data connexion.

Debug during and after:

Coverage: 3G

App/3G: App

Conn/2G: None

Wanted: 3G

Abort: None

Looks very promising. I'd like to test it back if you fix this.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lastnikita:
feature request: warn user when phone signal has been low for more than xx minutes : this is really a battery killer :)

cheers
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Paperless:
+1

True

"Looking for signal" is a very bad battery drainer.

But the worst one, after the camera, is the GPS.

While talking of feature request, a GPS position update delay in milliseconds, like from 100 to 20000. Could drastically increase the battery duration on GPS.

This could be useful if you don't have a car charger or if you are on a feet/bike ride.

The more I think of your app, the more I get excited and you could have a very large market for it.

If you need some deep rigorous testing of the battery savings (with vs without), I could be one of your beta testers. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Paperless:
Google Maps 3.0.1.6 can't get the data with it. It switches 3G but get a connectError. :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rmanaka:
Google Maps with Layers version 3.2.1 "sort of" works for me. Switches to 3G, makes a data connection, loads (or reloads) the map, then TENDS to disconnect. When it tries to reconnect, sometimes it "misses" on the first try. I live an in area that doesn't get the best 3G coverage, however, so it could just be the stars and moon effect that is causing the intermittent connection.:o

Using timolol's WM 6.5.1 build 23081.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rmanaka:
Chainfire,

First of all, thanks for continuing to develop a terrific application. For the most part it works for me.

Clarification to some of the above posts...the "official" WM 6.5 gold release to most carriers will have the top task bar and buttons as WM 6.1,. The WM 6.5.1 versions that most of the current "WM 6.5" builds from 23034 on have the NEW WM6.5 bottom task bar. Here was one of the first public reports of the new builds: http://www.redmondpie.com/download-windows-mobile-6.5-build-23034/.

Some of the ROMs for the Raphael/Fuze are:

Timolol's stock-like WM6.5 ROM an Australian variant by timolol...

RRE Series 6 WM 6.5 23071 build 23071 FINAL BUILD by aruppenthal, my personal all around favorite, but he is now building for Rhodium

★ EnergyROM 'Photon' (23081/21864) ★ | Oct 25th | Manila 2.1! | a very popular ROM by NRGZ28

Exquisite Series V3.5a - WM 6.5 Build 23081 for Touch Pro [GSM] built in Malaysia by programatix

NATF's v5.6 [Standard, Lite, Manila] again very popular ROMs by NotATreoFan (moderator) who is now cooking for CDMA Touch Pro 2 (Verizon)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] stealth21:
Thank you @rmanaka

As i understood, WM6.5 and later needs a OK button inside the configuration program.

@Chainfire

Great program though..

After installing any program which uses internet, WMlonglife asks what type of data connection we want to assign :)

That was great idea.. (also no need to the configuration menu)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Chainfire:
Ok well seems I will have to be doing some flashing :) It's gonna be a while before something comes of it, though, sorry to say. This is all pretty complicated stuff and debugging services like these is true hell and very timeconsuming.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fmfisdead:
Hello all,

I was just wondering if anyone had the same problem as I do, and possibilities on how I can fix it. I have an htc touch pro aka Raph.

Problem is when I start any browser like skyfire or opera it takes about maybe 2-3 minutes to even start loading the page. This is the same whether I run it on 3g or 2g. When I uninstall Longlife immediately the pages load up like normal. I also experience problems connecting to receive mail.

Any thoughts?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] master4g:
the bug has already been reported, read the past pages. its being worked on

on a side note. when i uninstalled the program, im stuck on 1x (2g). any way to get 3g again?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] justpyro:
I can confirm that WMLongLife is working on my HTC Vogue. (I have not tested exchange push mail functionality though).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Osteo:
I just reinstalled, got a good 3G connection, and uninstalled again and was left in the land of 3G..... of course YMMV but I thought I borked my Imagio but just a quick reinstall and uninstall after good 3G connection fixed it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] p50kombi:
Comm manager?

you can also just go into your comm manager and change to 3g :)

If you don't have that option use schapps good ol' config tool to add the button...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mwrood:
2 questions...1. can anyone tell me if this works on touch pro 2 (verizon stock rom)...and also...can someone take the time to tell me a lil bit about the different "band" types (1X, edvo, 2G, 3G, and any other one that may be floating around out there)...the reason i ask this is because i tried this program and i set it to 2G only but the icon continued to show EDVO....the only time it would change is when i was receiving a text or sending a text (it would switch to 1X) but it did this before i tried the program so im trying to determine if this woks for my phone, if ive got the wrong settings, or if im just totally oblivious to the differences in the "bands"....please please please will some one help???thanks in advance
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] stealth21:
Thank you, Chainfire...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jaellis:
I'm not sure if this works on the Verizon Touch Pro 2, the processor is the msm76oo, So I'm not sure if this works the same as any of the MSM75xx devices maybe someone can help me out on this one. It works fine on my Verizon Touch Diamond 1, except it has a bit of a lag when switching and saving settings but I assume this is more to do with the switching the radio.

EVDO is Verizon's name for 3G networks it stands for Evolution-Data Optimized, 1X is Verizon's 2G network.

Verizon Terminology:

EvDo = 3G

1X = 2G

Hope this helps
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Chainfire:
It does work on Verizon CDMA devices based on the 75xx series, but the 76xx series has not been tested at all. If you are comfortable with configuring band settings through normal means and possible hard-resetting, you could try. If you are not well versed in WM, I would advise against it at the moment though!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mwrood:
chainfire...i dont have any problem with hardreseting...i always keep a good backuo file which makes the process 100 times easier...the only thing is that idk how i would be able to tell whether this program is actually helping the battery life on my touch pro 2...the reason being is that i dont always browse the web for the same amount of time everyday, i dont make the same amount of calls and texts everyday either...is there a way for me to efficiently monitor whether this program is actually helping
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Chainfire:
Well there is no real good way to monitor this. You just have to test it with usage and see if it makes a difference for you. All monitoring tools I know of talk with the battery driver, and those are not exactly trustworthy in reporting mA usage and such.

Unfortunately, WMLL is very beta and still has many issues (actually a complete rewrite is on the way). However, if you do not mind, I would be very thankful if you could install it, reboot your phone, then try the "Band Switcher" app that appears in Start menu and see if the 2G, 3G (auto) and 3G (only) buttons actually switch you between 1xRTT and EV-DO.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] RemE:
Just thought I'd add my experience with this on my Tilt 2, It's a must have app in my mind, and worked well for the 1st week on stock rom. Now I'm running the EnergyRom in my sig and it's still performing well.

I only have one possible issue. I often will use the phone to catch up on a TV epsisode using Sling Mobile over my home WiFi, in bed late nite, like reading a book. I'll shut down the phone radio and BT and just use WiFi. BandSwitcher is set for 2G with WiFi overide and it seems that BandSwitcher seems perhaps to not like the radio being off? I have vibrate notify on, and it has done some strange things. Once when done, I finished, turned off the phone (standby) and after the BandSwitch timeout, the phone began vibrating continious and would not stop. Other times if vibed twice.

In any case it seems that BandSwitcher should be aware if the radio is On or off (or data connected already) and act appropriately when closing apps or switching apps.

In any case this is one very well polished piece of Chainfire magic, I'm looking forward to the commercial release and will be happy to buy it!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] number16:
Hi Chainfire and all,

Don't know if anyone else has experienced the same problem, but I recently upgraded my ROM from DiaDuit 1.6.4 to 1.6.7, and WMLongLife's stopped working.

It worked perfectly fine under 1.6.4, but after flashing the new ROM, whenever I switch to a 3G application (like Opera), the WMLL "Switching to 3G" window will pop up, and it looks like the radio is switching to 3G, but somehow it will not be able to connect to 3G and will just continue to search. It will hang Opera, and I will have to terminate the application.

And it's not just Opera it has problem with. The same problem occurs for every 3G application I've defined.

Meanwhile, if I manually switch between 2G and 3G and back using CommManager, it works perfectly fine, and I can connect to 3G and download data no problem neither.

I've checked the radio setting and all that, and everything looks fine.

Has anybody else experienced this before?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] elosogrande7076:
Just wanted to say that this program is long awaited and thanks for your hard work. I have a CDMA Touch Pro and for the most part it works well. Only issue I have is that once installed it wont allow me to a use the TF3D weather (or any other program not on the whitelist) Also, it would be nice if we could just use the band switcher part (at least till the final product is released. Thanks again and keep up the good work.

Ps. Anyone knows where i can find earlier versions, i was reading the forum and some said that earlier version solved one of my issues and would like to try that version.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hectorzin:
I Have an HTC Touch HD and I am speriencing the same issue than you from the beggining :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
HTC HD2 support?

Hi,

Does WMLongLife support the HTC HD2? If so which chip option do I use, I believe that the HD2 has a Qualcomm MSM 8250.

I have only had the phone for a few days and i am already frustrated with having to turn off the data connections before putting in standby.

Thanks

John
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sbl:
IE doesn't work

Running NRG or Echo 23xxx ROM's on my CDMA TP. Internet Explorer just sits on the about:blank screen and eventually times out. All other apps trigger correctly and work. Even if I start Opera and minimize it first IE still doesn't work. If I uninstall your app and soft reset, it starts working again.

Thanks,

sbl
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Chainfire:
I do have an HD2 now and I will be looking into supporting it. You could try selecting MSM72xx (GSM) it may work, but I haven't test it yet.

I'm in the middle of a rewrite so hard to test it right now.

@all

Sorry for not replying much, I do read all your comments and they are all taken into consideration for the next update! Unfortunately right now I have a lot of things to do that have higher priority than this, so it's going slower than I would want.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Karlos G:
Look forward to the release mate, great work!

Karlos.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Karlos G:
Ok, tested on my HD2 tonight and it works 100%!!

Every function!

Superb mate, thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] coebergh:
Hello,

Uninstallation

Before uninstallation, there are two things you should do:

1) Open the Band Switcher application, and switch to "3G (auto)" mode

2) If you have roaming options enabled, make sure you are NOT roaming when uninstalling

After these two points, simply uninstall WMLongLife using Windows Mobile's Remove Programs function.

I forgot to do that before i uninstalled, now my phone wont go back to 3g or hsdpa anymore even after two hard resets :P

Already contacted ensurance and they are going to repair but it will take up to 5 weeks :O! So if any of you have another simpler solution, please say so :D!

Thanks,

Coebergh
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
why can't you re-install, set those options and uninstall after?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] coebergh:
Doesnt work either :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
i doubt it can be due to the software, it is just turning settings on and off, it sounds like hardware failure.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] coebergh:
Thats a real coincidence then! Cause it happened right after I uninstalled wmlonglife :P!

Well i guess ill just let it get repaired!,

thanks for the help!

Coebergh
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] stealth21:
i was just passing by and wondered how much you take care of our gonads :D

Have you started developing the program ?

Or your tests go on?

I flashed my original 6.1 that worked almost perfectly!

Take care bro

Later..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] damo2002:
Just wanted to say this app is brilliant. Installed it on my Omnia the other day, which was getting roughly 24 hours to a charge.. With WMLL installed I got about 72 hours and it was on 19% battery before I decided to charge it (had to go out). Gonna let it run down to 0% this time, see how long it can go for!

Only issue I've noticed so far is that 3G stayed connected after M2D's weather thing updated. But that might be something I've overlooked in the options, haven't really looked too far into it yet.

Cheers for the hard work!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Chainfire:
typing blind from phonr so excuse spelling and punctuation please

i think it unlikely this is caused by wmll, however it is s weird coincidence them. anyway, perhaps something is wrong with your radio. one thing you can try is flashing

the radio rom, that might reset things.. if not try a full stock htc rom.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kanzen:
What did you set the Radio Chip Model to?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kanzen:
It works only half on my Dutch HD2.

The phone exits and enters the data mode. Although I do NOT get the 3 vibrations in the beginning. I do get the 2 vibrations when going on. Sometimes.

But when data goes on, it only connects to GPRS and nog G3.

So surfing goes very very slow..

Also I have a question, 2G still allows data connections. When I am using this program, and it auto switches to 2G, I still am having a "gegevensverbinding" obviously on GPRS (I assume that is 2G).

But the use of this program was to turn off ALL data connections. That should inlcude 2G.

I hope these things will be fixed in the next update, since I believe this program could be awesome!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Chainfire:
Ok, just tested, it seems to partially work on the HD2 if you select "Qualcomm MSM72xx (GSM)" as "Radio chip model". Having some issues with it though, but it mostly works.

As I stated before, I'm working on a rewrite so no update until that is finished.

@kanzen

Actually WMLongLife was not built to disable all data connection, just to manage them. Though I guess that's something to build in. Exactly what did you have in mind? Turn off all data connections when in 2G ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] XERO_Racer:
heya chainfire, first i would like to say EXCELLENT APP and i love it, it made a difference in battery life for my TP my only issue is i have HTC Sense(TF3D) 2.5 when i startup a connection from the twitter tab my icon would keep on looping the "loading" icon to connect to data...how can i fix that?

and also for some reason in my town i usually get like the same EDGE bars as the HSDPA bars like both get 3 or 2 regardless of what connection i use, is there still a difference in both of them?

thnx