yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mr-free:
ok its like this...

s10onn2o, release 21139 Beta 1, 2, 3, and 4, he then gave me pre-release 1

to check out and help get it ready for release.. I did some more clean up

of his Kitchen and add some missing Apps, and fix the music/album issues,

made a release of his pre-release 1 called .. candidate release 1 aka CR1,

someone found a few minor issues and I fix it in CR2 .. s10onn2o has been

away for sometime now, so I decided to port built 21159 OS to the old 21139

stable SYS .. and it works so CR3 will be out soon .. however I will not

do the official release on s10onn2o build 21139 as that's his Kitchen and

hard work .. just helping to keep it bug free until he comes back..

Now During that same time, someone send me a link to build 21159 from China

http://bbs.pdafans.com/thread-689667-1-1.html

I downloaded it and did a load of translations at the same time someone over

at ppcgeeks was doing the same clean up work, so I combine a few things

I was not able to fix on my own ..

So 21139 Beta's and CR's are all s10onn2o and or s10onn2o base

work/Kitchen..

And Build 21159 is from China, with a ton of work to clean it up and to make it more

stable than anyone else 6.5 so far, I will always call it "beta" tho.., will continue testing

it until MS release the real 6.5 or aka 7?..

21139 is {WM6.1 "like"}, 21159 is all new WM6.5 from China I am getting to

work and getting it bug free/stable for testing.. soon to have more available memory as well..

just doing all this for fun and education purpose so all help is very welcome..
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Screwbal:
I see a couple people saying they are having issues with both the SMS and NonSMS builds.

Is anyone running either one of those two and has them working fine? I'll load this up now if I know its working for some, but want to hold off if both versions are broken for all :)

As always I love the work you do and appreciate your help!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mr-free:
:confused: what are you talking about?

CR2 has been out for over a week, a few ppl reported the links stop working,

I have not find the time to re-upload it again.. simple fact is I do not save

old version .. meaning for me to upload CR2 again... I have to pull the OS folder

and remove a few apps install in CR3 .. then rebuild the ROM and upload it!!

that takes time!! I think it would be best for someone that downloaded it

to post it up .. or will just have to wait until I get the time later to do all that again..

This is just all testing fun, using MY TIME .. no need for "Bad ethics" or calling

anyone names!!

the Kitchen for beta 4 is posted ANYONE can make the same changes and fix

I did in CR1 and 2.. feel free to.. working on 21159 has taken up all my free time,

but yes .. if you have CR1, CR2 is only a few bug fix with the M2D software

and a few other minor issues ..
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mr-free:
what version? 21159 Beta 1, 2 or 3 :confused: .. I have not experience any

frizzes at all .. what SPL, Radio etc.. you got loaded?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mr-free:
Someone ask for a clean build .. I thank they wonted to install all their own

Apps .. including there own SMS software ..
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mr-free:
WOW !!! xsilverfox damm that is SWEET!! Thanks a TON!! you have

been a GREAT HELP!!! Thank you .. will do all this later when I get home..
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mr-free:
omg.. this is GREAT!! :eek:

Thanks again for all your help .. keep it coming :)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mr-free:
I'll find out what I did wrong in this build ... hmmm may have fix one thing and cause another?

I'll fix it later .. should be minor as it is working for me ..
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] cmf04:
thanks mr free for all of your hard work. I am really having fun running your builds so far. You are correct, it did run in beta 2.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mj41374:
Strangely enough the Beta 3 w/ SMS work when you go to Menu -> New -> MMS... it's just the SMS option that it just sits there instead of coming up with a composer window to compose the message.

Also, when receiving an SMS message, you can see the title but when you go to bring up the actual message text, it comes up blank as well.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mj41374:
Tried to install Sprint's WinPM.cab overtop, but still no SMS. It's almost like it's having problems with the threaded view of the text messaging. I seem to remember a way to turn off threaded-view, does anyone know how?

nvm, found the setting under the "Advanced Config" program... I set it to disable threaded view and soft-reboot - still doesn't work.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] MassStash:
how do i get 6.5 to update time automatically?? and mr F., is there a way for me to just fix the base Beta4 to run s2u2 n s2p by any chance? then i can continue to tweak on my own....
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mj41374:
I found that I first had to make sure I had the correct time zone (it was set to PST fresh from the beta3 install). Additionally, I also made sure I had my DCD carrier file installed and that IOTA had ran by getting online with PIE. Lastly, i manually changed the time to something else, went to Settings -> Phone -> Services -> Time Synchronization -> Get Settings and made sure the "Time synchronize with mobile network automatically" was checked and did an "Update Now" and after a few seconds, the network sent me the correct time (changing my manaully configured time to the correct one).

Hope this helps.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mj41374:
Much to Sprint user's relief (I'm sure), not only *does* the new v3.0.0.12 Google Map work, but so does Sprint Nav (sprint-navigation-htc-mogulmr-2.0.15.cab), Sprint TV (version from 6/6/2008 - SprintTV_6800MR.cab), and Sprint NFL (version from 11/3/2008 - nfl.cab)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] vickylife007:
That really was uncalled for, mr free deserves better, and an apology would not be out of place.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] machaf:
SMS and reading email message is not working for me either. MMS messages work though.

I can see the emails, it just won't open them up to read them.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] wagedomain:
Using Beta 3, I have been getting freezes and crashes as well on my Titan. It SEEMS to occur when trying to activesync to a Vista machine. I tried uninstalling all my mobile device drivers and reinstalling from windows update but no go. A soft reset fixes it, but I forgot to transfer over my sprint cab so I am stuck without phone abilities or net connection!

However (this is where it gets somewhat bizarre) for ****s and giggles I threw the phone onto a Win7 box and sure enough... drivers install, and I can browse the device. Is win 6.5 unstable when connecting to Vista?

I can trip report more as it happens if this is at all useful to you - I am on another Win7 machine right now installing everything over again so I can transfer the sprint cab over.

edit: Oh hey check that out. Just installed the drivers and sure enough. Windows 7 with Mobile Device Center 6.1 can see the phone immediately, but NONE of my Vista machines can. I've tried 3 Vista machines and 2 Win7 machines and so far the results are consistent with Beta 3.

edit2: Hey mr-free: In Win7, WMDC sees the 6.5 beta 3 device as "Pocket PC" and no longer shows the phone model. Interesting...
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Magislayer:
I actually saw a setting for that in the advanced config. you can tell it what you want your comp to see your phone as. Pocket PC is the default name.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] MrTek:
Using Advanced Config, I turned off Threaded SMS, and the SMS open issue still exists.

I put it back on threaded, and it still exists.

Just figured I'd put it out there for those who wanted to try it themselves.

I might have to go back to Beta 2 for a bit. Interestingly enough I went a few days on a different rom not being able to make voice calls, but even a few hours without being able to text is much more impactful :)

I am really liking Beta3 otherwise...great work!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] MassStash:
kitchen would be tits!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] DavidinCT:
er...Well said...heh
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mr-free:
Thanks ... I am uploading beta 4 :) .. I fix the bug .. was a missing .dll file in sys/shell .. guess when I did the

final build for beta 3 .. I must have did a "undo move" lol thanks to MS .. never tell you when was moved lol found the

file in my sys-out-trash ..

Anyways I ended up just keep working on it .. and made a lot more changes ..

So now we have it Beta!! 4 .. nice a clean :) everything works for me ..

but hell its 1:20am my time .. so who knows..
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mr-free:
once i feel everyone like where its at .. I'll take it out of beta and release the kitchen ..

I still have more none needed .dll and service to stop/remove .. problem is I

just don't know what each .dll/service affect :) so each one I remove I do

a load of testing ..
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] TheFdog:
Thanks for your hard and dilligent effort.

Mr. Free,

I rarely gush, but wanted to thank you for your efforts. My phone has been working pretty well with CR1 and I look forward to CR4. I was one of those who could not download CR2, as it always took me to CR1. Perhaps it was a browser issue on my end. Either way, I am happy you are doing this with your valuable free time, and not upset in any way having to wait for a better :D FREE :D product.

Cheers, MG
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] TheFdog:
Thanks for your hard and dilligent effort.

P.S.

It is not incorrect to ask for donations in this forum is it... Well not ask, but allow people to offer.

Just my two cents...
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] m_reyna_16:
tried out beta 3, what i noticed is that my phone hard reseted randomly and also that my ram was 13-10 always! didnt install or remove anything, just uploaded it to my phone as the zip came. is that happening to anyone else?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] MassStash:
feel ya. likewise tho pumpin a kitchen out would allow us to find more problems n fix em faster possibly.

Repeat Q, what's good with s2u2 not workin at all in 6.5? tryin to pinpoint the problem outa curiosity.....

P.S. everyone check out the friggin touch pro2??? good lord, i think i got a "ph-oner" lol need to find this highly 6.5 based looking rom soon as possible.....
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mr-free:
Thanks again for the pagepool idea.. funny thing is the pagepool.exe software has

been in my tools folder all this time lol

also found out that the WM6.5 ROM pagepool was set to 12MB :eek:

Titan best max is 8MB with 6MB default .. and works well at even 4MB ..

Beta 4 is set at the standard Titan default of 6MB PP ..

its 3am I ned some Zzzz
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Cycomachead:
AWESOME! forgot if this was posted: does WM 6.5 include finger scrolling the whole window / screen, or still only side bars?

now this is looking cool. Also what's the speed difference between 6MB and 4MB, I assume this will be slower than previous builds right?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] MrTek:
MR-Free,

Great job on Beta 4! Since going down the 6.5 route, I have to say I really can't go back to 6.1.

The UI changes really make it more usable, much more than I would have thought.

Can we disable the Flash support in IE as I don't have enough memory, so it constantly errors on me.

Thanks
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] wagedomain:
Full window scrolling. :) I hated the side scrollers because they were so damn tiny.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mj41374:
Just installed Beta 4 and off the bat noticed that Titanium was now enabled as the default on the Today screen so I turned it back off (am I the only one that finds the huge chunky text graphics annoying? Is that because of the Chineese translations? dunno.)

Also, note that clock is set to GMT-8 Pacific US by default (same as beta 3 but diff than beta 2)... so everyone be sure to set your correct time zone. :)

If you use Exchange for a mail server, note that Microsoft Direct Push may be turned off by default, but you can turn it on in the Comm Manager. (this may have been true of beta 3 as well - can't remember)

But as discussed, SMS is back and working. I can't seem to get MMS/Picture Mail to go through, but I also haven't added the Sprint MMS cab yet, either.

Will keep testing...
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mr-free:
lol Thank YOU.. You are very welcome .. sorry was up late last night did not get to upload cr2

hopefully today there will not be much issues so I can get the time to upload cr2 for the 21139 build ..
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mr-free:
lol :) nice to know you all appreciate the time it takes to do all this ..

I only do this for fun and educational purpose .. just keep testing and

repost any bugs is all I ask :) .. Thanks for the idea tho .....
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mr-free:
Try beta 4 ..

however what hardware version and radio are you running anyways?, that issue from my testing

cause by running some of the older 3.xx radio, I change the upper rom block used

in beta 4 hope that will help .. however best to run the latest radio as all my

testing and rom setup is base on the 3.42.50 radio..
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mr-free:
Very welcome .. ok will fix that.. keep testing :D
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mr-free:
TouchFLO scrolling is supported I can add that so the tiny scrollers will not be needed ..

hmm may be best to add that as a CAB tho.. others may still like to try and scroll :D
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mj41374:
I'd still like to keep Flash support as an option, though - can we get a cab until the Kitchen is ready?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] pls04012:
Help Updating

I have tried to update my phone but when it gets to the part where it transfers it errors out with a ERROR [262] : UPDATE ERROR and the phone has the grey screen with 0%. I have rebooted the phone and the computer but I always end up with the same result. Any help would be great!!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mr-free:
very nice... Thanks for the reports ..

I had removed one of my registry .rgu file that ajuest the time zone,

it had a few more reg. changes in there .. I'll clean the

very nice... Thanks for the reports ..

I had removed one of my registry .rgu file that adjust the time zone,

it had a few more reg. changes I needed out, I’ll clean that reg. pack file

up and put back zone change ..

Microsoft Direct Push yeah I turn that off, don’t know how much ppl use

It, it takes up 139k ram when active .. but yeah can easily be turned on ..

MMS/Picture was working in beta 3 so I did not test that lol hope I did not

miss it up lol :) I’ll test that now.. but yeah if you are on sprint you'll need

to load your cab .. I think even the Verizon guys needs to load the vz cab

for data .. I don't think I put any default provider in the build..

Thanks again for testing .. great job...
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mr-free:
hmmm is your Phone unlock? what SPL and Radio are you running?

if both your SPL and Radio is correct one way around this error is

to put the Phone into bootloader SPL mode .. plug in the USB cable

and start the RUU util.. you should see a 4 color screen with USB mode active

on your phone.. but yeah I need to know what version of SPL you are running ..

mainly that error is a lock phone issue and or USB issues..
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mr-free:
Things todo for beta5:

* removed one of the VSD icons

* update the registry to EST (-5 zone)

* update the registry to load all iexplorer temp files to SD Card (hope everyone has a mSD card lol)

* Remove “Ringer” from Comm manger to fix line up..

* add new soft keyboard? Who use the soft keyboard anyways?

* turn Titanium back off by default again? Or change the Titanium Font? Or Add M2D 22?

(Titanium Font fix, Start/setting/screen/ClearType (enable clearType) then go to textsize and increase to 100% out of 125%)

* add a newer pic album .. TouchFLO 2D version with the touch zoom?

* free up more memory by removing a few more unknown service bg process.. (clean up SYS even more)

* remove flash support from IE? Hmm don't know if thats a good idea .. ppl may end up adding other browsers if removed?

=-=

* add better smart-dialer lol (request by: bored2nite )

* add MS My phone back into it now that it is a working application (request by: bored2nite)

* add SMS registry cab for each provider .. (fix send pic issues by: mj41374 ) Sprint User fix by mj41374 .. see post #158
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] bored2nite:
Is it just me??

Mr Free

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU... every beta is more and more awesome, and i'm so glad we figured out page pool thing lol. That made a huge difference, I cant' wait when 6.5 is competing with 6.1 roms for RAM space, and looks as nice if not nicer haha

I had a question, this dialer (which i know was of your choice) it doesn't have smart dialing options right? Like I am dialing someones name out and nothing pops up like before. Just making sure I am doing nothing wrong?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] jmartin72:
Can someone explain to m how to load this ROM. Everytime i try it gives me an error, and takes me through a recover mode. Do i need to unlock, or do something to my mogul to let it install, and if so how do i do it?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] bored2nite:
Great idea on the keyboard. The one that is default in the diamond, the real big white one with a full, compact, keypad option. Im sure it takes up a lot of space, but it sucks as a cab but works wonders when it is cooked in.

I believe if we get the RAM down there will be no need to remove flash on IE because thats the only problem is when we were down to the 10 or less mbs in RAM it would error out. Also to add to that list, add MS My phone back into it now that it is a working application
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mj41374:
Yup, no problem, if majority of people don't use Exchange for a mail-server, no sense in turning it on. And it's no problem so long as we have the option to still turn it on if needed. Sounds good.

Doh! I actually I found my problem, just didn't set up the Sprint settings for the Arcsoft MMS program. So I went into SMS\MMS then Menu, "Pics/Video Options..", Servers and added a new server:

Server Name: SprintPCS

Gateway: <n/a>

Port Number: 80

Server Address: http://mms.sprintpcs.com/servlets/mms

Connect via: Sprint

Send limit: 300K

I got these settings working w/o having to install the Sprint PictureMail cab - so I guess I'll stick with this for now since I'm not sure what effect laying that cab over this image would do (probably just eat more memory, dunno).
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mr-free:
you are very welcome .. yeah .. I am still searching for the best dialer lol

the stock one is lame looking but everything works lol .. I put this one in

for testing .. it does support smart dialing but in a crappy way ..

after you dial the first 3 or 4 letter (numbers) you need to hit the "hide keypad"

to see the person name :(

guess I'll add a better dialer on the todo list :)

Thanks for reporting ..
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mj41374:
Personally, I don't really mind the dialer in Beta 4 (that's stock?) so long as the smart dialing can eventually work like the old dialers in 6.1... but I love the big buttons and the look with the 6.5 black theme not to mention the incoming call screen and contacts/photos. Again, probably a matter of preference and something the kitchen can take care of.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mr-free:
yes... your Titan needs to be unlock with the correct Radio before loading this ROM
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mr-free:
great idea.. I'll put it back :)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mj41374:
Locking and Unlocking works a little more reliably here in Beta 4, but does anyone else notice the screen going black before the lock screen appears? That didn't happen in Beta 3 that I can remember... for a minute I thought I had powered-off the screen, until I let it sit a little longer and saw the lock screen appear. (I also dig the sliding "Answer" button when an incoming call comes in and the phone is locked.)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] joemorin73:
I installed the rom this morning with only a minor problem. For some reason, the white screen returned. No biggie. A quick reset and it worked fine. The only problem I've encountered was the HTC Audio. It wouldn't play any audio. I installed the HTC Audio cab and it works fine now. So far, pretty wicked.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mr-free:
yp.. cool deal..

wow great find.. and GREAT info..one of the reason why I did a build without SMS ..

because the setting for Verizon users are not the same for sprint users ..

hmm what I will do is make a registry cab for both provider .. this way

I can keep the SMS pre-install without setup .. and all that will need to be

done by others is load the correct SMS registry cab..

Thanks again another GREAT find/idea :)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mj41374:
Sorry I didn't report this in Beta 3, but it's here in Beta 4 as well: when you go to remove an application by going to Settings, Remove Programs... when you click on a program to remove it (you have to click to highlight), the text of the program turns white (or transparent?) and you can no longer see the program you're removing - so you just have to go on faith that you've still got the right program highlighted before hitting the "Remove" button. Is this a flaw in the theme?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] wagedomain:
Hm? I am confused, I'm on the 21559 beta 4 and I don't see any scrolling interface, I can finger-scroll on every single screen. No additional cab needed, that's the default behavior in 6.5 it looks like.

It even does the iPhone's little "bump" when it hits the bottom of the page. :p
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mj41374:
Update for Beta 4: Sprint Nav and Google Map work,

But Sprint NFL (streaming video) and Sprint TV no longer work (they worked in Beta 3)

Does anyone have any problems with streaming video?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mr-free:
I’ll check the registry setting for the idle lock screen .. I have the turn off device set to 5min

and the dim back light set to 30sec .. in beta 3 the idle lock was set to 1min or 2min I think ..

I’ll look over the registry setting again ..

yes the sliding "Answer" for incoming calls when phone is lock is so damm cool

I am trying to get it to show up even when not lock :D

Thanks ..
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mr-free:
ahh very true .. I for got 6.5 came with the finger-scroll by default hmm ..

I guess when he post it was not working .. I started to think I may have pull it out :D

my bad and thanks for clearing that up :D
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mj41374:
Yes, finger scrolling rocks the casbah... but my pen seems to be better than my finger at recognizing the necessary gestures :(
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mj41374:
I have been using the USB method to put the ROMs on - but would there be any problems with just using my 512mb mSD card to copy your RUU_signed.nbh file as TITAIMG.nbh and just let the bootloader load the ROM? Would be a lot faster to re-load than my slow USB...

Update: Answered my own question ;-) works fine (I think)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] bored2nite:
have we heard of anything of getting a new build with the new answer and dialer screen that will be in the official 6.5?

also, has anyone else notice that oxios hibernate is actually taking RAM away then giving it back (rofl)

I was all confused at first but it was like -256kb released... i was like what?

Good news (i think) ONCE i got it to be at 20mb free at boot WITH Titanium on.