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[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mbarvian:
how did they manage to obtain an incite .dz file then? lgmdp?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] teoami:
It was obtained very carefully from the beta LG update software.

Basically, by letting the update software connect with the phone, start downloading the update ROM, then killing the process of the downloader at 99% before it started its clean up.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] drumboy03:
Willing To Help

Hey, I've got an ATT Tilt, but my dad just bought the LG Incite. I'd be more than happy to help out in here, the only problem is that he's got the phone obviously, but I'd love to tear it open or help get any files.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] leoinj:
can't wait

Been following this thread for a while now and finally signed up so I could post. I'd like to see a clean Rom for this phone without all the ATT crap. I don't want to have to deal with finding working drivers for the ROM so it'd be great to see the original ones or compatible ones included in the package. I'd love to help test but this is my only working phone so I don't want to have to bother with a bricked phone or several flashes. I'm still a bit worried about loosing all the contacts and saved data on the phone, but if it clears up the memory and perhaps makes it run a bit faster I figure it's worth the chance.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mbarvian:
do you have a link to it?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] philrocksgca:
i think this might be what they are talking about.

http://www.lge.com/us/mobile-phones/beta-program.jsp

EDIT: oh and by the way, im very interested in being a guinea pig for you if you need one eventually. My incite was born to be bricked (insurance doesnt hurt much either haha)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spocky12:
Because as I already wrote it, flash file is .dz and updater associated with this rom can only flash .dz files.

But tools available right now can :

- extract dz to *.mbn + flash.bin

- extract flash.bin to xip + imgfs

- rebuild flash.bin from new xip + imgfs

There is no tool available to rebuild dz from mbn+flash.bin (which is not a problem with lgmdp, as it can perfectly flash a list of mbn+flash.bin).

So once again, to flash a cooked incite rom, you'll either need to create a tool to rebuild dz file from *.mbn+flash.bin or to find how to flash an incite with lgmdp (or any other tool that can flash mbn+flash.bin).

I could probably find out how to make it work if I had an Incite, but unfortunately, they're not sold in France., that's why I can only make suggestions on how to fix this. So for now, where are we exactly. Did anyone manage to go a little further with lgmdp ? Someone reported that checking only partition.mbn+flash.bin greys out the start button, which file disables the start button when unchecked ? Did anyone try to flash a whole mbn+flash folder ? Did anyone try another version of lgmdp (euro version instead of us) ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] teoami:
Unfortunately, I no longer have my Incite (first one kept freezing and the two warranty replacements ATT sent me had button issues). So until I am able to get one off of craigslist or something (which I do plan on doing) my experimentation has been put on hold.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] philrocksgca:
unless someone can advise a noob on what he should do, im out too (due to confusion and no instruction) im willing to learn though, and i have a incite im willing to brick (ohhhh, i love insurance "it just stopped working.. i have no clue what happened.....")
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rkrishnan2012:
yo where are the tools? is it like a fully developed kitchen? plz post the names of the tools
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mbarvian:
what tools?

there are none yet
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spocky12:
There are no tools nor detailed explanations because now, it's time for experimentation, and I don't have an incite, so it has to be someone else (unless somebody wants to send me his phone ;) ). If someone manages to flash his incite with mbn+flash.bin files, then it'll be time to think about the tools (I'm taking care of it).

I think much has been said on this thread on what can be done or experimented. For my latest question about flashing mbn+flash.bin, you'll need :

- lgmdp (available on xda in multiple ks20 threads), there are 3 editions available (euro, us, world), if one doesn't work, try another.

- dzextract (available in my ks20 kitchen or in misterJp's thread).

- Official incite rom (dz file, links have been given in this thread)

- Incite drivers (links have been given in this thread)

Use lgmdp to connect to your phone and try to flash official incite dz file. (instructions on how to connect with lgmpd are available here too). There are 2 way to connect your phone with lgmdp :

- download mode (= emergency mode) can be used by powering your phone using a combination of keys (written in previous pages).

- "classic mode" : you need to enter a specific code in you dialpad (written here too), select "lg composite" as usb connection, reboot.

If it works, extract dz file with dzextract and try to flash the folder containing mbn+bin using lgmdp too.

If someone flashes mbn+bin successfully, contact me in PM so that I give you something else to flash (I won't publish anything unless I'm sure it won't brick phones).
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rkrishnan2012:
yo i think that the dz for the ks20 works!!!! try that for those who like to brick their phone the dz can be found online in xda-developers
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rkrishnan2012:
nevermind it dd not work. BTW! don't try to repack the dump file as dz because the updater is chacking weather the files are intact so don't waste your time instead, try to make lgmdp work. does anybody hav a valid nv2 file, if so then plz post it up.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] philrocksgca:
well i tried to help out some, but i cant even get my incite to connect with lgmdp... not showing up in the port list on any of them (us, euro, or world)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rkrishnan2012:
ya me too! so i think that we should do it in download mode (look up how to do it in one of these pages)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] philrocksgca:
which would be call + end call + lock. and that doesnt help
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rkrishnan2012:
well it connetts to lgmdp for me so why not?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] philrocksgca:
no clue, running xp sp3, installed the usb driver, i even see the com port in the device manager. which lgmdp you using?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] teoami:
In order for LGMDP to see your phone you need to do the following:

Open the program-> Go to "Select Port" (if you don't have it set to pop up automatically)-> Uncheck "Auto Search"-> Click "Add new port"-> And enter in the port that device manager shows you phone on. ie COM6, COM7, etc

That should get you connected.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] philrocksgca:
ahh.. that might explain it.. haha, thanks, ill check and see if it works

EDIT: alright, it says it cant open the serial port...

EDIT: nevermind

UPDATE: Alright, i can connect just fine, but i cant do nothing with it
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rkrishnan2012:
ya that's the problem.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Jgen:
Does NV2 contain any personal data that i need to worry about others getting a hold of ?

I have "firmware V10i" NV2 backups i believe are valid.

2xNV2 using LGMDP & 2xNV2 using QPST.

Also when upgrading to firmware V10i using LGs updater one of my phones generated a "firmware update log.txt" file in LGMOBILEAX\SmartPhoneSetup directory upon successful flash, but none of the other phone did ,,anyone else get this log ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spocky12:
Nv2 contains your imei, so be careful.

It seems that you made 2 successful nv2 backups with lgmdp. Did (/could) you try to flash your phone with lgmdp ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rkrishnan2012:
Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze do so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rkrishnan2012:
my bad he he he...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Jgen:
I did try but with no success. Seems like phone has a security setting of some sort killing port

"to the point of having to restart/reconnect phone" when attempting to read/write.

I posted the log file of a successful flash using LG flash program

maybe waste of time or stir up some ideas.

http://rapidshare.com/files/224239647/firmware_update_log.txt
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] philrocksgca:
thats pretty much as far as i got too, except i never got a successful nv2 dump. apparently someone doesnt want the incite to be screwed around *cough*at&t*cough* *cough*lg*cough*

life aint so good with bloat :rolleyes:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rkrishnan2012:
dude this log is actually good..... it says the flash went upto the point to finailzation and then it stopped thinking it was finished and reset and closed the port. maybe someone can edit the program to not close the port or delete the whole class in the code (if it is open source). -----------------------------or--------------------------------

maybe someone can make a regular dz file with dzip utility (hint) (hint) and try to replace the file before it fashes it but after the LG Flasher extracts it.

-------------------------------------------or------------(maybe)-----------------------

can one of u also try to leave one of the itsutils programs open while flashing it so that maybe the port will stay open (i hope i am right)

The first one to successfully finish wins a fancy new dollar for their paypal :E

edit: maybe not a FANCY dollar but u will get a dollar
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] philrocksgca:
its not the program closing the port, its the program ackknowledging the phone closed the port.. the phone detects an unauthorized flash, and shuts off the port
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rkrishnan2012:
what about the idea of making a dz with dzip(downloadable from google)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spocky12:
A dz file is not the same as dzip (that's a little bit more complicated :)), but most of the info is in copsfrance's thread "dzDecrypt".

With this info (and I believe he also released asm source code), you should be able to write a new tool or improve his tool so that you can reconstruct a dz file correctly.

Or you can try to contact him to see if he'll add a "dz reconstruct" option (I know he almost finished this function but then his hdd crashed and he lost the sources).
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] philrocksgca:
well even then, we cant flash with LGMDP as reported by more than one person, and the official flasher (according to... rkrishnan2012, i think) checks md5's or something, so, if true, we cant use that (i have yet to try this[because of lack of non-official dz to flash], so i dont know) but like i was saying, if thats true, then we cant use it either (without some tweaking? maybe..) so im curious, does anyone know the protocol used to write new roms to the phone? maybe even the checks the phone uses to validate the rom being written? possibly even someone inside (or with friends inside) lg, specifically the programming section that wouldnt mind sharing a few trade secrets? im just throwing out a few ideas, ive not much experience with rom cooking (only flashing them to my [now broken(RROD[the cursed build date])] tilt)

and pretty much, im going to leave it up to the pros to comment on my ideas, observations and im gonna stop overly using "()" and "[]" where not even necessary. :rolleyes: :cool:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spocky12:
Of course there's a md5 verification, if it wasn't the case, any error on downloaded roms could brick your phone.

But md5 signature is included in dz file so as far as dz file is reconstructed correctly, the official flasher won't cause any problem.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] philrocksgca:
alright, then if we can get this dz compiler up, then we are in business. can someone talk to the guy who made dzextract and see if hes got or can make a dzcompiler?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] teoami:
Hey Spocky,

I was reading up on the whole process you all went through for the KS20 and noticed that there was mention that in order to flash ROMs you had to flash an unbranded nv2.

Could you possibly shed some light on what exactly this did and how you all were able to accomplish this?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] copsfrance:
@philrocksgca:

Yohoo hord of fans...

Due to a previous harddisk crash, i have lost all my source of the DZ-Creator.

I have worked *hard* uo to now, and I think a alpha version should be available in XDA in about 2-3 weeks...

Don't care, I have promised it, I will do it...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] philrocksgca:
alrighty dude, thanks. looking forward to it

so pretty much we are stuck on hold until the dz-creator is up?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] teoami:
Here's to hoping.

Like I said before, I don't have an Incite anymore, but I am more than willing to still help out and would love to cook some ROMs.

That being said, I'm always willing to take donations so that I can buy one and get this whole project off the ground a little quicker.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] philrocksgca:
well, im kinda broke, so i cant help much there.. :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spocky12:
@Copsfrance : Glad to see you're still around.

@teoami : I don't know where you found this but there's no need to flash unbranded nv2 to flash roms. The fact is the nv2 file must match your amss.mbn version. So, to flash an amss.mbn taken from an unbranded rom (there are both branded and unbranded roms available for ks20) you need to have an unbranded nv2, but that's all.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] philrocksgca:
so we have about 5 active members on this project then?

teoami - in need of a incite

spocky12 - giving insightful wisdom and such

copsfrance - DZ-Creator

me - annoying people/trying to help

rkrishnan2012 - annoying people also/trying to help and such

and also, how might we port a 6.5 beta to the incite. anyone got skillz in that section of it all?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] netw3rkd:
I don't have much rom cooking skills, but am willing to learn (and will do so), but I have flashing skills, and multiple pc's to work with. I'll also do anything I can to help. I've been following this forum quite closely and appreciate all the hard work you guys are putting into this and can't wait to flash my incite to some decent rom :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] philrocksgca:
alrighty then, welcome aboard, me and you are pretty much in the same boat, haha
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] teoami:
@spocky12: Thank you for the clarification, I just didn't read enough into it.

@philrocksgca: It's very easy to port the actual file system of WinMo 6.5, especially since it is already running on the Omnia which shares the same resolution as the Incite.

The hard part is getting the current drivers for all of the hardware to work with 6.5. Even that though isn't that difficult since the underlying kernel and file system has not changed that much.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] philrocksgca:
so how do we get said drivers and... uhh.. integrate? them
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] teoami:
They are in the official ROM that I linked to. They have already been extracted from the ROM, there is only a matter of cooking them into a new ROM whether it be 6.1 or 6.5. The tricky part is whether they will work or not. That is why I'm trying to get an Incite, so that I can actually do some testing and not rely on others possibly bricking their phone.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bitbrat:
oh hey, teoami

Hi there - so you didn't get hold of an Incite yet (I read about this over at lg-incite.com too)?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spocky12:
When dz creator will be available, I may publish a test rom but I won't be able to do much more without an incite (blindly building a wm6.5 shouldn't be hard, but optimization and removal of at&t stuff is another story).

Also, don't fear to brick your phone, if you just modify flash.bin (=xip+imgfs) and don't touch to mbn files, there's virtually no risk (bootloader and emergency flash software are in mbn), so as long as you don't modify these files and your pc doesn't crash during the flashing of *sbl.mbn, it's ok.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rkrishnan2012:
will the dz of an other phone work on this one? does the omnia's 6.5 version have a dz file or is it just a flash.bin ...?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] teoami:
That's exactly what I'm afraid of...:D I'd rather something unfortunate like that happen to my own and not someone else's while it is still in testing phase.

@rkrishnan2012: No, a dz from another phone (as spocky12 mentioned) would contain a completely different bootloader and firmware that would not be compatible with the Incite. Doing that would surely brick your phone.

Pretty much all manufacturers now days use different methods and forms of ROMs. The actual winmo filesystem though (once extracted) is essentially the same.

@bitbrat: So far, not yet. Still waiting on the funds to come in. :)

With all that said, I pretty much have all the files together ready to go. Once the DZ Creator is finished, I can package up the LG update utility nicely and we can use that to flash, no muss no fuss.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rkrishnan2012:
i tried to use ks20 rom dz file (me being all risky) to rey and see if it will flash but the flasher detected that it was modified, so how would U do it?

btw...

are you really going to do it or is it a "I am possibly going to do it" thing? can we get help from some guy from lg?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] theloon:
I'm in

Ok I'm in, I worked on the porting of the orig. touch flo for the wizard and got alot of the app working properly and bug free I am better at reverse engineering than writing apps. Look me up.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rkrishnan2012:
try backing up the incite filesystem and then extracting it on the computer. i am sure there is an extractor/creator...maybe.....ihope
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rkrishnan2012:
do it with sprite backup
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] philrocksgca:
first of all.. what are you talking about? sprite backup is just worthless crap to backup your contacts and crap and why would he want to do that anyway?

second of all, why would you backup the filesystem on the incite? we can just rip it from the rom AND it would be clean of the post start windows worthless instabloat crap then (not to be confused with the att bloat).

thirdly, we dont want the os thats on the incite (or at least i dont) we want 6.5.

fourthly, STOP DOUBLE POSTING! its as annoying as getting slapped by a monkey all day.. theres an button for a reason, use it!

lastly, welcome aboard loon, good to have you
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] a.picchetti:
I have been following this thread from the beginning and no one has participated more than rkrishnan2012... stop being an arrogant forum-queen!! His line of questioning is what seems to be driving the progress. Maybe your time and ours would have been better spent working toward the common goal of a better ROM for the Incite... instead now you and I have wasted time sniping each other and everyone else has had to waste time reading it. Stick to something constructive... douche!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] philrocksgca:
yah... im really acting all forum queen.. thats totally it. my first three points were nothing but constructive. the fourth point was meant to point out a pet peeve of mine, that i might add, i have said nothing about for the past 2(?)ish weeks ive been participating in this thread and the fifth was welcoming a new addition to the team. so why dont you take your worthless comments elsewhere. thanks!

by the way, douche isnt a very nice word..
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] teoami:
@ a.picchetti:

Sorry to say, but philrocksgca had all valid points.

rkrishnan2012 was asking people to waste their time on useless things. There is no point in trying to go through a diffucult and futile effort to extract data from a sprite backup when we have already gotten it from the official ROM.

I am also disputing your statement that rkrishnan is participating the most and driving this process. Effortless nagging without contribution is hardly productive.

Now unless someone thinks that they can build a DZ Creator faster than copsfrance, we are all just playing the waiting game. Everything else is pretty much done.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] philrocksgca:
thanks man, its always nice to have someone else saying the same thing im trying to say in better words. :D not to mention, it helps end stupid arguments faster than with just 2 people going at it.

OH! and i LOVE the waiting game.. haha
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] theloon:
Problems after upgrade

Just FYI I upgraded to CT810_V10i_Ship.dz rom and I am unable to make changes to the registry even with all the tools at my disposal. anyone else having this problem?

EDIT: Reflashed and am able to make changes to the registry, must have been a bad flash. Wow that brings back memories!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] a.picchetti:
I don't know... maybe you all have points... I just thought the the things being said were a little snippy and I thought people were more interested in progress than someone pointing out more forum etiquette... that crap gets old.

Sorry, to start the infighting... I just want a new ROM for my Incite and I watch from afar because I have never cooked anything besides a bad meatloaf and I thought that rk...2012's questions were things that I might ask... both of us being sort of novice to the cooking game.

Sorry for the douche comment!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] theloon:
Tweaks

I've been working on some tweaks for the Incite.

Experimenting: Porting M2D and making Finger Friendly reg edits cab.

This is the way I will test things untill I can cook them into a ROM, if they work then I will make OEM packages out of them.

Should I post 'em here?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] a.picchetti:
RE: Tweaks

yes please
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] philrocksgca:
md2 kinda already has been ported, just doesnt have landscape and it would be cool if we could get the screen more sensitive along with unlocking the full power of the CPU. i think its downclocked by at least 50% just to save battery
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] theloon:
I'll post links tomorrow.

I am fixing landscape in M2D (actually fixed) it's just been a while since I made a cab and don't have all the tools so I'm on the hunt! :D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sseymour:
I actually started porting TF3D to the LG Incite but no longer have the time to finish it and no longer have an Incite to test it on.If you would like me to post the unfinished work i will.(BTW its the Rhodium edition)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] theloon:
Thanks anyway but I'm getting back in the grooooove.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] theloon:
My Bad

Sorry I misunderstood. I have too many things going on at the same time but Yes, please post, It may help.:eek:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] teoami:
Wow, it sucks to lose another one. I hate to say it, but if we don't start getting some people donating to the cause, this might be a very slow process getting off the ground.