yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Actually, I originally had three different "big" programs in one OEM package that I made. The two that you mentioned and the enlarged start menu. I forgot why I had removed it. There was a bug somewhere... I should recreate it. I completely forgot about it.

As far as fonts go, I used to change the fonts way back before I started cooking and it's also something I just somewhat forgot existed. I remember using Calibri, but I've never tried either Segoe. (Goes off to try it out after I finish the current build in between customers.)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] v5HMeca:
I can make this into an add-on if you want to save some space.

I already have a working CAB that I made that contains Opera Mini 4.2.13337, Gmail 2.0.6, and Esmertec Jbed 20081203.2.1, as well as the MortScripts that are included in the GC Java Packs. I had already planned on replacing gc14's scripts with JZ SmartMort or something else that's updated more frequently. I have no experience with MortButtons, but if it's relevant, I can add it too.

In short, I can package this however you want. If you want it to exclude a browser and java, and only contain the MortScript stuff, then that's fine. Let me know.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
Hey that's kinda cool, I haven't yet seen people making combo installers other than for jbed and OperaMini or Google Maps. Here's what I have always wondered -- just curious really. Are there any performance, speed or space advantages to packing that kind of array into a cab file... vs installing all as separate cab files? Or is it principally just a convenience just to get someone up and running quickly with some core essentials?

thank you

by the way, Ivan, if you're going to be using scripts, do you think you or doody could handle that "Pictures and Video" default folder issues -- allowing a user to set a preference for user's favorite folder?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I'll let you know after I get some time to test the current alpha build. I've got Emerstec JBed, but I don't know which version it is, Opera Mini 4.2. something, MortScripts, JZ SmartMort modified a bit and MortButtons to provide a GUI interface to JZ SmartMort.

Getting the settings for MortButtons set up correctly might be the hardest part.

There aren't any real advantages other than convenience.

As far as scripts go, I haven't really messed around with making my own mortscripts, but if there is an existing one, I might consider using it. Personally, I like my Pictures and Video to go to my memory card.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Just as a note: Aside from being busy, one of the main reasons it takes so long to develop, is because I NEED my phone working, so when I flash, if it bricks the phone, it takes me down completely. One of these days, I'll need to buy a new phone and use this one just to cook.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] DrogenDiego:
Very very nice that you're back!!!! I'm running a manila 2d ROM at the moment and I'm totally pissed of it because it is so slow and uses so much program memory!!! Wanted to update to your JustMe Rom today but now I see you're working on something new :):)

Any Ideas on how long it's gonna take for the first alpha to be released? I'm really looking forward to it thank you for all the time you put in it!

Greets diego
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Right now, it's taking a long time because I have to take my phone offline to test flashes which sometimes brick the phone and I need my phone working and online all the time.

I almost want to upgrade to a G1 so I can use the Wing to develop only, but then I'd have to get the data plan... and that's a lot more money a month.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
hey ivan ur 14v12 has an error r sumthing i flashed ur new rom it works no problem man
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] neiltoe:
Installation of 14v14:

Install went super smooth.

AutoConfig went just fine.

QuickMenu reflects the changes to the text.

Network Configurator works as expected.

Arcsoft version = 5.0.31.11 with send limit of 1200k.

For some reason I can't send an MMS in my area I get to 99% and then it starts all over again. I suspect it is T-Mobile stopping me but hopefully someone can verify MMS works completely.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Great to hear! Can you send and receive MMS? I didn't test it out this time with that version or the send limit hack. ^_^
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
ivan i cant send r recieved mms man :( but everything in dis rom is really good more stable n more responsive ivan
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] neiltoe:
Yea I still cant send/receive MMS that sucks because I love this version of Arcsoft. I can't figure it out I even installed the t-mobile network configurations. I am trying to send a picture at 237kb. I get all the way to 99% and for some reason it is not finishing the send.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
man i try sending alot of mms n no luck :(
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
It's either the size hack or the cab to oem conversion.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
its there anyway tht we can fixed da mms?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] neiltoe:
I am thinking about the last time I used that Arcsoft on JustStable and it never sent before that was why I would always go back to JustMe so I could use this Arcsoft. I really hope we can find a fix because this version is really good. I'll search a little bit.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
I would be happy to mirror the files.

You can let me know if you want to do this or not.

I will create the following:

www.XDAsites.com/ivan

and there can folders for "Just Stable" etc

I provide download hosting for A_C's S2 applications. He's never had a problem.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Where there's a will, there's a way. It's not a question of if it's possible, but how long will it take to figure out with my busy schedule having to do the research and testing while at work and while ignoring my duties. :p

I really appreciate the generous offer. I might take you up on that later but the problem right now isn't the host, it's the off-the-network connection that I am allowed to use at work. It's been having problems lately.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] blove:
hey, ivan, great bro!

I just flashed V12 yesterday. Before flash V14, i want to know the bug "SIP button disapeard" has been fixed ?

Thanks Ivan!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Chongie:
Hi Ivan,

I just flashed my phone with your latest rom.

And it reboots fine...

Thanks alot...

P.S. I noticed that you changes the taskbar icons again... Is there a way to change these myself to the ones you had in the V6 rom (the square icons)? Thanks again...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] blove:
Bluetooth task bar icon

Hi, Ivan!

V14 very fast!

But Bluetooth task bar icon is older (it is square), not suite with current task bar icon set!

I like current taskbar icon set! could you share the bluetooth icon file with me ?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
Seconded! :)

But I would settle easily if there was a way to simply drop new icon files into a Windows Directory, so everyone can be happy :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] blove:
Hi, Ivan!

V14: SIP button still disappear after using for a while. only after reset, it appear again!

Who know how to fix it ? Thanks!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
hey guys does anyone knw how to fixed the mms on rom 14v14 n i just switch back to 14v11 it works best for me :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] livndeadgrl13:
im having the same issue with the mms cant send one at all it gets to 99% then stops iv installed network wizard and arcsoft just in case the ones in the rom didnt work but to no avail
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
im switching back to the previous rom because those the mms works n i like da 14v11 the best one out of all of them so far :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] livndeadgrl13:
well i couldnt get 12 last night so im gonna try v12 if that doesnt flash im gonna do 11v, i hadnt flashed a new since 7v lol thought id catch up lol

EDIT still cant flash 12v so 11v it is :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
ohh yea i try flashin 12 alot times didnt work n i consider 11 is the best one for me :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] livndeadgrl13:
yeah 11v looks pretty good so far, i think ill stick with it....maybe lol will probably keep flashing all alphas till the finished version is out lol, thanks again ivan
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] neiltoe:
If you are using 14v14 you can install this arcsoft and your mms will work but they will still be small pictures.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ruebyi:
14v14 herald looks like it's not downloadable anymore...

Edit.: Just flashing 14v12 - Is not working... sticks on first bootscreen!

Edit.: Download of 14v14 works ... seems to be a problem of Mediafire

Thanks Ivan! Software that didn't work with JustMe because of the boot loop works now! And it is really fast!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
are you sure it will work n if the picture are small cant you fixed the registry?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] livndeadgrl13:
i dont know about 14v but 11v the audio manager does not work, i tried to install audio cabs from an earlier version but still does not work anyone have any ideas how to fix??
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
did u try out the mms man?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] nonpaq:
I tried MMS on v14 WING. was not able to send. Installed arcsoft 5_0_31_16 from previous post, rebooted, still unable to send. Installed and ran NetworkWizard, set up to T-Mobile, rebooted, and now able to send MMS.

After Arcsoft install, i get a connection setup error prompt (reporting a "Error in Database") on every reboot, but it still connects and sends.

Unable to send over 300K.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
are you for reals man it works?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] neiltoe:
Just use the "Connection Setup" that is already in the rom. This way you won't get that database error.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
ohhhh yea u did tht n it work?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] livndeadgrl13:
ok i reflashed 12v and then installed the audio cab and now audioplayer player on the home screen works, ill wait till next build instead of using 14v, very smooth btw like alot thanks :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] neiltoe:
Yea it works just fine if anyone can figure out something for the resizing by t-mobile it would be great. I tried the cab floating around and still get resized. When I send they are large but get resized when I recieve.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
yup i jst notice that right now i try using my brothers phone n taking sum pictures n sending it to my phone the picture are sooo god damn small
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] neiltoe:
I believe it has to do with the phone identifying itself as a generic to the mms server. If I read correctly when I tried to fix it on my phone. Like I mentioned there is a cab that fixed it for other roms hell it even works for my wifes X1. But for some reason it is useless with this rom :(
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
well jst let ivan do his thing and i think he can fixed this just let him take his time cuz hes a busy person too so its all good n the final release of his rom is guna b the best :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
for those who flashed wing v14, is it correct that it has no Home plug-in?

What else have people been able to determine that v14 loses that v12 has? Or more generally what are the other differences?

thx.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
Oh yeah, just fyi, anyone. I had already mirrored Ivan's v14.12 and v14.14 ... but as Ivan said, Mediafire is not the problem.

nevertheless:

http://xdasites.com/ivan/JustStable-WING/

http://xdasites.com/ivan/JustStable-HERALD/
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Chongie:
It indeed does not have the HTC Home plugin....

I do not use it so i do not miss it...

Furthermore I was unable to flash v12 on my Herald so no idea what got lost between the version....

CHongie
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ruebyi:
I'm getting a startup loop with 14v14 when installing the attached HTC Album Version.

Dows anyone have a working one?

ruebyi

Edit.: I found newer Versions, but only for VGA ...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Chongie:
He QuickSite,

At the moment you are right about me being a minimalist. Currently I am indeed using QuickMenu to reach my installed and fav apps. This is because I haven't found one to my liking.

I used to have TF2D (OTP7.4) from ttran instgalled on my phone. And I also had to do a lot of customizing to get it to start my apps instead of the defeault one (for example replace calender with SBSH Calendar touch). But due to the high memory usage I quickly replaced it with winterface from vito. It can be fully customized and it is light on the memory....

On my phone now I am using the plugin from Iconsoft PhoneEx. It gives me direct acces to my messages, contacts and call logs...

My eyes are always open for a Launcher to my liking..

Maybe I will give iFonz a change.....

Chongie
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
14v14

hey i got everything working sending mms full size image i dont know how i did but all i did was reflashed the rom then it started working thanks again ivan
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ruebyi:
I'm using WAD2 at the moment so I don't need HTC Home.

Well infact I don't need Quickmenu, WKtask and Googlemaps, too. But I can wait until the cleaned ROM comes out! :D
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Sorry guys, 14v14's MMS are broken due to the new Arcsoft added. I'm gotta figure out what it broke or go back to the old one.

As far as the other bugs:

When I flashed my phone with it, the splash screen DOES show up (after the setup, not before.)

HTCHome DOES show up.

Is everyone else not getting them? If so, I don't understand why.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
well i got everything just except the mms but the mms now is fine wit me no problem love the 14v14 ivan everything is perfect
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] sambalbij:
In this thread there are newer versions.

In the download of v21 is the newest version (and only 1 or 2 mb), but i couldn't find an option to rotate or zoom.

v20 is 6mb but works great.

v19 is 2mb or something, works well except for the m2d of v21.

Edit: you still have a bootloop when you take your sd out?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] livndeadgrl13:
when i flashed the 14v i did in fact have a home plug in the only issue was mms couldnt send them at all regardless of size, so when ivan works on it some more i will be getting the next version, although as stated earlier 12v works great and fast, although the simple windows splash screen is kinda blah but thanks ivan :) for all ur hard work
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
well wat i did was i reflashed the rom then install the network cab. then the arcsoft then reboot the phone n bam it works like magic :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] nonpaq:
I see the animated spalsh screen on v14 WING. After the HTC logo, a red streak flashes left to right over "Just Stable" , then comes the Windows logo. If you blink, you will miss it. Ivan you should probably have the full "Just Stable" text display after the "wave" effect.

HTC Home displays fine. No errors with today plugin.

I tried to get MMS working again from freshly flashed WING. After auto connection setup, MMS will not send (reaches 96% and stops).After install of Arcsoft 5_0_31.16, still no MMS send (This vers arcsoft actually notifies you the send was unsuccessful.) I then rerun connection setup, reboot, and MMS sends OK now but not 300K pfoto limit. I modified the WAP1 and WAP2 SendLimits (all three of each), Cycled the WING off then on, still locked at 300k.

Ivan, I also noticed that the tap-n-hold of start icon brings up the default style menu in v14 (a feature of QuickMenu). Both v12 back through v7 it would show a blank white menu.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I did but I forgot to update the image in the ROM. lol

Good to hear!

I'll be working on it tomorrow.

I think using the fixed QuickMenu fixed that. ^_^
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
That was an amusing message :) ... A head's up though. iFonz 2 is at a critical branching point. Along with its major speed enhancements, incorporation of windows task bar, drag & drop icon-location swapping, its configuration utility is terrible (rushed)... and users are telling the developer they (we) prefer the functional design of iFonz 1 ... and today he said he may rethink the whole thing. It works beautifully, it's just very flawed in the setup which moves in the wrong direction from version 1.

So... I will probably, for now, either use TouchFLO here with Ivan's rom, or maybe explore something else. I am just very tired of exploring and am really needing to use my phone :eek:
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
That's bizarre... for v 14.14 ? I don't see how that is possible. I can for sure add my own HTC Home plugin and it works, but that 14.14 version comes with no HTC home... unless that is I have been targeted for a prank ! :)

Hey ivan -- can you please tell us your overall expections/desires for this weekend? Are you expecting to upload any new version tonight (FRIDAY), for example? I want to save the trouble of a lot of customization of apps if you've got something coming today or tomorrow.

Thank you as always for all the tireless work on this ROM. It will be my last for the WING, and I will use it for a long time, so I'm thankful you are putting so much into it.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
oh this is good to know. so, other than MMS, which I rarely use, is 14.12 noticeably a little faster than v 14.14 ?

I've been having problems with 14.14 where cprog.exe is hogging CPU time. Is that the whole suite of dialing, calling applications?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] nonpaq:
Here is my screen shot. I did not install HTCHome after the flash. Definately 14v14
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I'm not sure why some people are getting it without HTCHome and some are getting it WITH HTCHome. As soon as I fix this MMS issue, I'll be uploading 14v15. Then I'll be stepping back and thinking about any major feature I want to change, not just little fixes to put into 15v1. If I can't find anything major, this may go Beta. Once 14v15 is out, I'll be collecting a list of all bugs and improvements people see or want. As far as the icons being different, the icons that people liked a lot unfortunately cause all kinds of bugs because of being stored within VGA dll's. I'd need to port the dll's (which takes a LOT of work) so I'll be sticking to these for now.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ruebyi:
Taking out the sd soves the problem... THX I will try them out!

HTC Home is not displayed in my 14v14 Herald ROM! but I can see the animated splash screen!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
That is the strangest thing. 14v14 isn't working properly for most of you. I wonder if maybe it's because of the power off enhancements?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
ivan yea same here the rom sumtimes slows down till like sluggish man i still thing 14v11 is still da best so far man :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ruebyi:
Well, till now I thougt the slow downs came from WAD...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Chongie:
SPB Mobile Shell

Today I came across a message about SPB Mobile Shell v3.0.

There are some YouTube material available. And I have to admit it does look a lot better than the previuos version. Maybe going to try it when it comes out.....

For now I keep my phone uncustomized as daily use allows it. Saves a lot of time after flashing to the latest JustStable Version..

I will you informed about my experiences with SPB....

Chongie
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Chongie:
Ivan,

In all the Herald version of each of your release I never come across the HTC Home plugin....

Are you using different files or kitchen even to create the Herald versions???

Chongie
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
Well I'll be damned (darned)... I wonder if I messed up my flash session.. I think only person who said he too had no HTC home was speaking of the Herald v14.14 ... nonpaq, thanks for the screenshot. I totally believed it regardless.. was just baffled.

I wonder if this explains why my usage of version 14.14 is very hit & miss? After experimenting with a number of different taskbar cabs, most having no effect whatsoever, I tried bilbobrian's taskbar - for VGA -- just to see... And it has worked for me, I guess the icons are just rendered lower rez... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=485548

Brians updated HTC Task_Bar.zip (661.0 KB, 1474 views) Brians Fixed_bmp_masks.cab (35.4 KB, 463 views) Brians BT_Stereo_Headset.cab (9.6 KB, 380 views)

So, Ivan, did you try this specific cab "updated HTC Task Bar"? and if so, are you saying that "yes it is possible to get them to display, but at a great cost -- because the dll files that get installed conflict with other windows files?

If so, this would explain, maybe, why I am having problems. But I also used these in my prior flash (v 10 ??) and I don't recall having a problem at all.

Please let me know is this is specifically known to create problems.

Last question for now (he says): Do you think as far as my intending to run either iFonz or m2d on your rom, for right now would you rec i use Wing 14.14 or Wing 14.12 ?

thank you.

oh yeah... i still want to encourage you to try neufont, unless you don'ty like the results i was able to achieve in my screenshots. I have not noticed anything buggy about it. There is just one tradeoff: 90% of the whole interface is dramatically improved in font size, including all message windows (but not the tiny options on most of the settings pages), including all menus and popups, including selecting the sorting column preference of lists, and Opera Mini is fine (not sure if effected at all)

But in just a few applications, the system font chnages that are made mostly across the board, end up making font size a bit smaller than default. An exmaple: While Total Commander has larger type, in File Explorer Enhanced, the type somehow is slightly smaller, even though the menus and popups are large and easily tapped.

NUEFONT free download from Softpedia:

Which reminds me, the only aspect of Font Control i am blind about is

What does OOM Font mean, and how do you use it?

thank you
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Maybe it's the Herald version itself having these problems. *Goes off to check it out.*

I'm at work, so I won't have much time to answer everything, but I am actually downloading nuefonts as we speak. I'll give it a try and see how I like it. As far as OOM, I don't know. lol As far as the icons, it causes a lot of random problems when you use the VGA dll's as you change much more than what you see.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I found the bug with why the herald never showed htchome. It was a bug in my option.xml that I created in the OEM package I created for the herald keyboard. Instead of removing mortscripts and the scripts that I use for the IE launch in the WING keyboard, it removed the htchome screen. lol
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
Sorry for overloading.

Okay. I will not use Brian's toolbar since it introduces probs. thanks, it's good to know ruleouts.

OOM = "Out of Memory" notifications -- i am looking it up.

THIS IS A "COMPETITIVE" APP to neufonts -- author claims it does more; and this thread has people's responses:

*** I know the following Registry chnages have all been explored, but I came across this ANNOTATED set of notes that explains each value:
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
TO HELP AUTOMATE reinstallation of Cabs & Settings: SASHIMI

I mentioned this way upthread. Found a Video demo on YouTube that makes it look actually kinda simple:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANgzCqrcjHw

I think my prayers have been answered!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Luanre:
Ivan, is it real to return russian keyboard layout for a hardware keyboard?

I have already changed regional settings to 'russian', but it didn't help :)

P.S. I like this ROM :)