yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G1 Android Development] maruutah:
I think your best bet for trying this, would be to call general care for tmob and do a bit more "social hacking"!

Simply say *Darn, I was disconnected when getting transferred to your tech support department* and they should transfer you right away..

Now, this is assuming tech support may have more information on the manual update..but that seems it may be a slim chance... Not sure if they would actually have the information vs Google themselves... Like for ATT vs Apple, ATT does not troubleshoot the iPhone and actually are not supposed to, thus when people call ATT about updates they are required to transfer to us (Apple)

Meh. Worth a shot, though.

(I have to deal with ATT every day and do a LOT of their job for them whenever I transfer after fixing up an iPhone..it's pretty annoying...! I'm hoping tmob is a bit better than this...!)
[G1 Android Development] Yatyas:
JF apparently already talked to someone who got the update and walked them through downgrading to RC29. Maybe he should call and tell them the update didn't work and ask if they could send it down again. Since he really did recieve the update maybe he would be more likely to get the info. Not sure if it even matters but might be worth a shot.
[G1 Android Development] LucidREM:
anyone know what the deal is with PLAT-RC instead of TC4-RC???
[G1 Android Development] maruutah:
that...actually might work.. o_0'

since they can push new information to any device, they might be able to re-provision something on their account, and it might grab that in the same instance..

........hmmmm.....that is worth trying
[G1 Android Development] Yatyas:
May want to make sure he has the necessary apps on his phone and/or PC before calling so that he can find the filename.
[G1 Android Development] maruutah:
true, true.

they may want to verify that he isn't a *fibber*.

heh
[G1 Android Development] vahustla4lyfe:
Confused

currently running JF 1.31 on my G1. I'm new to this I recieved my G1 least than a week ago and have already rooted it. Now I'm just trying to decide if I should put the cupcake OS posted on this board on my phone, or should I just put JF 1.41 update on my phone. Please help, I'm new to all this and don't really understand everything yet.
[G1 Android Development] dreeZruleZ:
Chrz everybody.

I might be able to help. Can one please post the name of a known file @

android.clent.google.com?
[G1 Android Development] LPChris:
We've already gone through and tried every combination of filename based off of previous names.
[G1 Android Development] dreeZruleZ:
do you mind if I try?
[G1 Android Development] wimbet:
Feel free to. Scroll back a couple pages and you will find the links.
[G1 Android Development] andonnguyen:
such as what names mr. smartypants?
[G1 Android Development] antempire4:
Thats fantastic! Will this be made available to noobs like myself?
[G1 Android Development] Crusher16:
This is cool.
[G1 Android Development] thainess:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10155625-1.html

for the non-believers :]
[G1 Android Development] mdanerd:
holy crap, greatest feature for g1 yet:

"Ability to report offensive comments in the Market as spam "

no more people being first, racist, ignorant, stupid, or looking for ladies to "hit them up"
[G1 Android Development] kawauso:
That's just about reason enough to make me upgrade to RC33 regardless if its rooted or not.
[G1 Android Development] mdanerd:
yeah, ill lose my themes, autorotate, etc for that.
[G1 Android Development] bofslime:
The leaked adp1.1 was beta, which is why i'm interested in rc33. But I would much rather run ADP code, and being since Latitude was announced today, I'm hoping we see an official ADP 1.1 release soon.

It still concerns me that T-mobile is getting code before the OS community though.
[G1 Android Development] JayBachatero:
Agreed. Would be better if the idiots that keep on getting reported for spam would eventually be warned/banned.
[G1 Android Development] at314:
rc33 update

im living in the outside the US, can i get the rc33 update?, when i first got the phone it was rc29 then the mobile asked me to update to rc30, i have another question if i got rooted g1 rc30 do i get the update?
[G1 Android Development] I7oobie:
Please use the search button, as this has been explained elsewhere... :D
[G1 Android Development] justanothercrowd:
I haven't read anything in this thread stating that. We do know that it is based of the SHASUM, that's it.

You not helping anyone with these comments and you come of as a rude immature POS that isn't really concered with helping out. Your posts are almost always non-helpful and full of teenage angst.

Educate yourself before you try and educate others bright one.
[G1 Android Development] Disconn3ct:
Beta? Sure. Ok. What's your source? (Hint: I was the one it was leaked to. so... yeah. Its not beta. Its just not released - there is a difference. It would have shipped on newer factory models except for the ease with which the community has been pulling bins and images off phones - its held up by the lawyers.)
[G1 Android Development] LPChris:
Listen kid, if you read the thread you'd see a couple other people trying to guess the URL based off of previous releases. I went through last night and did the same. That avenue has been tried. If you want to give it a wack then go for it.

I'm sure with all of your 12 posts you've really done wonders for this community.
[G1 Android Development] nodens2099:
You have to write the pcap data to a file, then decode the protocole with wireshark or something similar.

Anyway, done that some time ago, it won't help. Everything is encrypted.

I took a look on the chekin process source code, and tried to fake an android client using this information http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2902651&postcount=123 but it didn't work, I kept getting HTTP 400 Error (could not parse payload: invalid request).

The problem may lies in the fact that I couldn't find the correct id for RC30, and also that my imei and serial refer to a dev phone. Or maybe I was too much in an hurry, it was just before going to work this morning ;)

Anyway, I'm not sure it would be useful. Unless the imei/ radio/ whatever elects you for update, you won't get a filename. And if you are eligible, then you don't need that crap.

Maybe we could try again with an imei/serial/etc that has already had the update. If someone has that then PM me and I'll try.
[G1 Android Development] bofslime:
I was actually using the term 'beta' loosely, the build states 'user debug'. Although the RC33 does appear to have some non tmo specific enhancements not in the leaked 1.1. And if one wanted to argue Symantec’s RC = Release Candidate which is just another name for final beta testing.
[G1 Android Development] Seanambers:
Correct me if i am wrong here, but lets say i use the .nbh to downgrade to RC29.

Then i wait until it prompts me to update which obviously could take some time to what would hopefully be RC33, wouldnt the update be stored on the phone and it would just be a small case of copying it to the SDcard?
[G1 Android Development] Disconn3ct:
Going down that road, you don't want PLAT-RC33 either. (Which, fyi, was explained as the 33rd potential - and first actual - release of a new "PLAT" 1.1 tree, as distinct from TC4-RC30, 30th of the old TC4 1.0 tree.)

As part of that conversation it was stated by teh goog that this is the tmobile version of 1.1. (And ISTR the stock adp1 had the same build type.)

I'd actually expect a new release of the adp1 images to match, sometime in the next few weeks. (Maybe longer, but I'd be surprised.) Tmob is a paying customer, and - realistically - adp1 buyers aren't..

Edit: I doublechecked (actually, JF did): same build type.

ro.build.description=dream_devphone-userdebug 1.0 UNLOCKED 116222 test-keys

ro.build.fingerprint=android-devphone1/dream_devphone/dream/trout:1.0/UNLOCKED/116222:userdebug/test-keys
[G1 Android Development] inpherno3:
thats the joy of open source ;-) (that is if he is nice enough)
[G1 Android Development] Mikey:
I understand that but he was asking from RC30 to RC33. Resulting in what you just mentioned if needed to go back to root??
[G1 Android Development] bofslime:
Yup, I hear ya.. and good info. And you're right, I don't want an RC build, i'm just interested in the difference between this and adp1.1.

Its just strange to me how this open source system is setup so much differently than most. I'm used to seeing stable and unstable tree's, and compiling builds from there. But this feels like closed source first, and open source second where mystery images float around in house, and then source gets pushed a week later.
[G1 Android Development] Disconn3ct:
Ah, I see your confusion. This is a closed source product.

..no, really. Someday it might be partly open, but its a closed source fork of a half-open tree. (Half open, as in it is heavily dependent on closed source code and given the choice between an open fix today and a "correct" fix "someday", the googs pick "someday" because that doesn't impact the closed source side.)
[G1 Android Development] dreeZruleZ:
Dude, let's keep it clean. Enough of ego!

I don't think it will hurt if anybody tries it again. If I get it, everybody wins.

I will try it tonight, when I get it, you all get it.

peace!
[G1 Android Development] elmejor183:
Well went back to RC29 connected to wifi, will keep in touch when and if anything pops up.

I am in NYC.
[G1 Android Development] damien667:
I have no ego

so I made a simple linux bash script that hits up the checkin page, pretending to be the phone, every 2 minutes. It will keep running forever, or until it gets a response other than FOTA_CANCEL. I'll let you guys know if I come up with a URL for the update :D
[G1 Android Development] elmejor183:
i have my finger tapping check for upgrade on the device info window every 2 seconds :-)
[G1 Android Development] damien667:
fancy... ?? :p
[G1 Android Development] otto888:
I know how to work tmobile reps(made one try to help me root phone for fun,he(or she) tried to help! :p ) and so i will try my luck at pulling the url out of their mouths...after i charge my phone(6 hours).
[G1 Android Development] d4rkwing:
I just worked my hardest mojo on some fool but, alas they stood firm on the fact the the "manufacturer" are the ones who send out this update, and not Tmo. I claimed that I accidentally declined the update and needed a remedy. Their suggestion was to Google it. :D

Anyways, hope JF gets what he needs soon. Good job, man! And I know this is my first post, but I have been annonymous on here for a couple years now, and you are all awesome. :)
[G1 Android Development] xyrcncp:
You would be surprised at what some reps say. I was having issues with my battery and one of them told me to get a high capacity battery, I told them "wouldn't a non-TMO approved battery void my warranty?", then she was like "oh yeah, I guess..." Then she mentioned Googling for a solution, I chuckled and told her to have a nice day.
[G1 Android Development] maruutah:
well, again, for apple vs att, all updates are through apple, att cannot provide support or answers, they transfer the customer to apple (me..yay..?? FUN!) because apple develops them.. even when they get a text from ATT saying a new software update is available for their iPhone, all calls go to apple... I would just assume that the same goes for other carriers vs the manufacturer of the phone (developer). Even for blackberry, you get pushed to their support (att and tmo, verizon too)
[G1 Android Development] otto888:
ok.....i got set up with a rep that knows about us tring to get it. she hung up. im going to try htc support,and then the big boss,google.
[G1 Android Development] warzchit:
just downgraded to rc29 im in upstate ny so lets see what happens the first kid to post he had it is about an hour away from me
[G1 Android Development] otto888:
htc said only tmobile has updates...now i need googles number....i cant find one...someone have it?
[G1 Android Development] Blink37x:
HQ: (650) 253-0000

Maybe they can transfer you to the right place. Good luck getting an answer out of anyone.
[G1 Android Development] otto888:
i found the google offices page...left a message at the altanta office(closest to me,same time zone) so HOPEFULLY we will get a reply(link)

EDIT: here is what i said "i have went through everybody that helped with the g1,and i still dont have the rc33 update for android. this is my last resort. please call me at 256*******....i need this update.....please....with a cherry on top"
[G1 Android Development] Darkrift:
That is not going to work, they will tell you to wait longer. You should have said you accidentally denied it 3 days ago and havent had it restart.
[G1 Android Development] otto888:
to tmobile? ill try that and see if they buy it. EDIT: i geekp getting connected with someone that knows about our plans and they hang up! im having bad luck.
[G1 Android Development] daproy:
Since the hexadecimal numbers are based on the SHA1 hash of the file it is essentially impossible to figure out what the 8 digit code in the filename might be (if they even followed the same file naming convention). An 8 digit hexadecimal has 16^8 possibilities or around 4.3 billion possibilities. Assuming you try one possibility every second it will take you 136 years.
[G1 Android Development] DDM123:
If I recall correctly, the new update isn't supposed to be rolled-out until Feb 5th (3 hours 11 mins from now from where I am) so try again tomorrow if nothing has come up.
[G1 Android Development] LucidREM:
could be they stuck a HUGE flashing alert on all computer monitors and are reading the posts here - LOL - like they care that much about us .. i think they just anticipated a mass hysteria related to the update and have trained their people to not give out info no matter what .. nasty little buggers .. threat of being fired usually inspires enforced obedience
[G1 Android Development] mark925:
(Insert witty remark about how that will be just in time for the "Cupcake" release). I kid. :P
[G1 Android Development] otto888:
Well,im not giving up! im going to wakeup at midnight(central time zone) and try to call wher they are tired....idea...why dont we do a confrence call on skype and all scream "we want rc33!"? lol
[G1 Android Development] jschwall:
I used to get excited about christmas when I was 10. Then it came and was over just as quick as it came. Really guys there's nothing that exciting about this update to get headaches about. Just wait and when you get it, play with your spam blocker and new map tool. Then everyone will start all over the next day with new updates they feel tmobile owes them.

ANYMORE sexual or offensive remarks by ANYONE will receive a 3 day ban. Enough is enough. This isn't a playground!!!
[G1 Android Development] SoTacMatt:
It shows February 05, 2009 2:07AM UTC

So, maybe we'll start seeing it?
[G1 Android Development] otto888:
If that is the time that the "1.1 bomb" is set to drop,then yes. Its being held back until a centin time.
[G1 Android Development] southsko:
well google is PDT (-8). just throwing it out there
[G1 Android Development] otto888:
Oh ok. So it should be out at about 2am central time....I will check then and if its not there...I'm gonna complain to tmobile
[G1 Android Development] mark925:
Oh geez...learn a little patience. You do realize they said it would be over the next couple weeks starting on February 5th -- not that everyone would have it on February 5th at Midnight exactly.
[G1 Android Development] Mi|enko:
Gonna complain to T-Mobile? Because you didn't get the update as fast as you thought you were entitled to? wow. . .
[G1 Android Development] :
really, i agree...i know that we are all eager for the release, but there is no need to complain to anyone...patience...it will be on xda and cooked up by JF before you even know it....
[G1 Android Development] rickyteddyb:
ok

i'm gonna go out on a limb and say otto888 is being over dramatic on purpose. I could be wrong but i'm gonna give him/her the benefit of the doubt.
[G1 Android Development] Ryanmo5:
Hell it took me 2 weeks to get the rc30 update ota!
[G1 Android Development] nolageek:
Um, you're not really all that familiar with the hacker mentality/ethic are you? It's not about waiting for big brother to give you something, it's about figuring it out for yourself and then giving back to the community.

So yeah, maybe it is a bit like being excited for Christmas.. but really... why is that so wrong? If you want to pull your socks up and yell at kids to get off you lawn go ahead.. but... why are you on this board again? :)

I bet you won't be complaining if/when someone gets the update early and you get to flash RC33 this weekend instead of whenever T-Mo would have gotten around to sending it to you OTA. :)

Back on track.. I'll be checking my phone for the next couple hours.. but quick question, should I be looking in the Device Info or via terminal in the /cache?
[G1 Android Development] JayBachatero:
Ok it's 12:05 EST and no update notice.

* starts an angry mob.

j/k
[G1 Android Development] LucidREM:
it's ALMOST as good as sex - LOL
[G1 Android Development] Shagman68:
what would be nice, is if we could all sign up to an email list so that as soon as JF gets the new version cooked up. He could then just email the link to all of us impatient ppl. :) I'm in including myself in that category.

Shaggy
[G1 Android Development] TemporalShadows:
I just finished the downgrading and rooting my phone, now running JF1.41. I'll try to keep an eye out for the info needed to snag the update. :)
[G1 Android Development] j9k:
Has anyone had their phone restart out of the blue? My gf has jf 131 on her phone in the long beach area. It happened around 10 pacific. Ill have her do the logcat thing

Edit. Didn't work

J9k
[G1 Android Development] AbsoluteDesignz:
I had one random restart on my phone....in 3.5 months now...and i was definitely ODing with the mem at the time, so its all good.
[G1 Android Development] cbrunner:
Just subscribe to this thread.
[G1 Android Development] bpcrew:
*coffee :)
[G1 Android Development] Binary100100:
Well... my phone was behaving pretty strange. I was on the phone around 11:30pm with full signal strength and my call dropped really suddenly. I took a look at my phone and it said "No service" and a few seconds later my phone rebooted for no reason.
[G1 Android Development] Binary100100:
So how is this going to work? We upgrade to RC33 and then hopefully soon (not holding my breath) RC31 "Cupcake" is released and we UPGRADE from RC33 to RC31??? Does that make sense to anyone?
[G1 Android Development] TheDudeOfLife:
Cupcake isn't gonna happen for a looooong time.

I imagine we'll be getting incremental updates till we get to firmware 1.5
[G1 Android Development] topdnbass:
Yeah, everyone please get the cupcake concept out of your minds.

Unless your a developer/coder.

For everyone else, theres RC33. Be happy. :)
[G1 Android Development] Binary100100:
Unfortunatly i have to agree with you but i figure that it will have to be released before the G2 comes out because (and please correct me if im wrong) it will lack a physical keyboard. so without a soft keyboard wouldnt it make it pretty difficult to use the phone? So common sense says that they will release yet another update to support the soft keyboard prior to the release of the G2 which coincidentially has a mysterious release date (much like the Cupcake update). My guess is whenever that has a release date then the update should have been pushed out already.

But just my theory.
[G1 Android Development] TheDudeOfLife:
No offense, but let's keep the 'stale' cupcake theories to another thread. This is for finding the filename/info for RC33 (which is all that we got for now..)

Besides, who wants a VK when the keyboard we have is so much more reliable.
[G1 Android Development] Ryanmo5:
We will have video recording and other goodies out way before the baker comes calling anyways. Cant wait to get new update via jf, i personally am in agreement with above post i dont care about onscreen keyboard. Give me option to save from mms and im good.
[G1 Android Development] :
I am checking for the update like every 5 minutes and Ive still got nothin. Will post if I get anything
[G1 Android Development] ayo991:
Has anyone that rooted and/or downgraded to RC29 received RC33 yet? I have been running RC29 since the 2nd and have not seen anything. I am just curious if maybe only virgin phones are getting this update.
[G1 Android Development] :
So far as I have read only non rooted phones are getting it... I unrooted mine so I gould try and get the update and hopefully figure out the filename for JF
[G1 Android Development] Binary100100:
I have an application called Save MMS that works pretty well.

Look it up on the market. It doesn't allow you to save from the message itself... but you use it like any other application and it pulls up all the received messages.
[G1 Android Development] jschwall:
Im just saying I have better STUFF to do then check my phone every 2 mins just to be able to report spam and check some map feature out that will be cool for a day.

ANYMORE sexual or offensive remarks by ANYONE will receive a 3 day ban. Enough is enough. This isn't a playground!!!
[G1 Android Development] sputnik99:
U R right: video recording has arrived at the market. I downloaded it and it works (no sound).
[G1 Android Development] Disconn3ct:
http://andblogs.net/tag/jf (or rss at http://andblogs.net/tag/jf/feed)
[G1 Android Development] nolageek:
I hate to be captain obvious... but ... but why don't you go do all that "better stuff" you have to do and stop hanging around a forum whose primary focus is doing what apparently you think is silly? Really.
[G1 Android Development] :
I agree... If you aren't gonna contribute or at least try to then why sit and complain and waste all of our time...... Still trying to get the update BTW
[G1 Android Development] LucidREM:
so this is just a really silly question i guess .. is there somewhere that lists out the info from the last update? filename, location, etc .. i was completely oblivious at that time and clicked upgrade to RC30 before i ever found this forum .. i'm curious to actually know the process my phone went thru back then even tho it probably has nothing to do with the current RC33
[G1 Android Development] kron2:
i am still trying to get the update but with no luck so far hoping when some one gets it we can get a name for it and jf can get the update from google
[G1 Android Development] warzchit:
im going up to rc30 with no root to see if that works
[G1 Android Development] giantcrazy:
So pardon the newb here (tried sifting through the thread but might've missed it).

I've got JF 1.41 on my phone. Will it attempt to download RC33, or just skip it? And if it tries, do I shoot it down (if possible)?

I've got no problem waiting for a JF'd release of RC33, just want to make sure I don't inadvertently lose root or brick my phone by taking an upgrade that I shouldn't.

(and while I remember it, a good time to go and do a Nandroid backup)
[G1 Android Development] Bratag:
No actually what has arrived on the market is a flip book. The program simply takes thousands of snapshots from the camera preview and then plays them back one after the other. Every person who has dealt with the camera has tossed around the idea of using the onPreview callback to do something like this. Everyone else gave up the idea as being way to stupid. Its not true video, it locks the camera device and the overhead to convert from Googles wierd RGB format to something that can be viewed is HUGE.

I give the guy props for trying it but personally I will just wait until they add the video functionality back into the SDK.

B
[G1 Android Development] JackD3ath:
No your phone wont receive OTA updates, i guess you didnt read all the info when you did the whole root procedure thingy, cause it is clearly described in the help threads.
[G1 Android Development] warzchit:
strange thing i just update to rc30 no root and it downloaded the video recorder on its own

i tried to check with device info and nothing yet