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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
you could, but i didn't figure out how to calculate the price because the one-way ticket is not only based on zones. every city has a different way of calculating.

but at least, we can warn to users that the stations are located in differect zones.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
news:

Insert single arc (station) is ready

Copy and Paste rows are ready (useful

Cut, move up, move down of a single arc will be ready tomorrow

the MapCreator with these functions activated is expected to release in thursday night.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
MapCreator 1.0.4.8 Release on 2009-06-04

* Add: Copy, Cut, Paste supported for Arc(station) Editing

* Add: Insert, Delete rows supported

* Add: Move up, Move down supported

Read the doc on Post #3 for more details
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbonzz:
Finally finished

It took me hours and hours (about 200), but Milan map is now finished. Here it is. Enjoy!

- All tube lines

- All urban train lines

- All tramway lines

- All bus lines

- Full timetables
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbonzz:
x-sliver, i think there's a problem in the search engine. With last Milan map here above, try the path Gorgonzola-->Rabolini-Sarca at 16.10. Modifying preferences, here are the results:

- less connecting: 65 minutes, 2 changes

- less time: 65 minutes, 2 changes (but last path part is missing)

- balanced: 76 minutes and 4 changes

As you see, it's odd:the balanced one returns a path that takes much more time and much more changes
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
yeah, sometimes the engines works strange espcially in big maps. i will take me a lot of time to trace. but you map is finished, it can be my best test platform to determine the problems.

thank you for your great map. now are less bugs on MC, i can make the engine on priority.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
bbonzz:

for the bug you mentioned in post #315, are you using the last version of CA? 1.0.4 Build 23 Released on 2009-05-22? because in my emulator and with your last map, the result is correct. you can compare the result with the attached engine.

Otherwise, that is my fault which i didn't copy the last DLL to the package. from the last version, we will not check the timetable until we changed the train, that could avoid the condition you've mentioned and of course, it runs faster.

for your last post, some parts missed is a known bug, i correct it for Search now, but forget to correct it for Search on choosed time -- it caused by some 0 minute arcs. in fact, there are 4 changes for "Less Time". this algorithm cares only the time, so i can only assure that the less time method is always the (or the one of the) shortest path, it doesn't care about the path. more tweaks and modifications are needed to be done based on real maps, and i will do it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbonzz:
thank you for your great app: map is nothing without app and search engine ;)

you're right: now i too have the right result for that path. In the meanwhile i've completed Milan map, so am not sure if it was a map problem or i hadn't yet the last CA. Anyway, now it's ok :)

i don't know if you did or not, but your attached engine above is different from 1.0.4.23. Here's the byte/byte compare (left the package, right the attached engine)

F0:4FA316-->B67529
7604:4FA316-->B67529
7BBC:4E2DBB06CC79D9468A5BD4913C660642-->3928A503E70B7A4286464A10901D58C3
7FC4:4EA316-->B57529
82F2:14-->0F

great!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] marasp:
LONDON UNDERGROND is it to complicated?

Hi there, any luck with london underground system?? i personally tried twice and it is such a complicated system that my patience was torn apart :)...is there a way to cooperate so more people can create single lines as opposite to 10 people trying and failing to do whole underground, and then someone coordinating the effort will put the puzzle together?

regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chris10230:
If it is possible for collaboration on this part I'm happy to help out with it as well.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lambstone:
is anyone working on singapore maps?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] akp99:
I'd be happy to join in as well.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Ruudfood:
Hi marasp

Unfortunately, I've just been too busy to start/complete this. I did intend it to be quite a big project with the underground first, then Overground, tram and, eventually, buses. But I didn't even get past the first hurdle - not because it was too complex (although I'd deliberately started with the easiest lines) - as, like I said, I was just too busy.

chris, akp - if you would like to collaborate on it then I'm happy to add any help that I can. How do we go about it?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chris10230:
Well the only we can do it efficiently is to have a google code set up as it will allow us to use a svn which will help a lot to see what is changed etc.

I dont mind setting it up or you can and then dump all of the files that you have currently finished into it so the rest of us can start working on it.

Seem like a good plan to all?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] marasp:
so when do we start?? :)

hi guys....happy that at least few of us are ready to join forces to try top complete the mammoth task...

chris10230 if u could set up google code that would be great...I'm not familiar with that type of work so have a few questions...first of all do work on files on-line or we need to download->work->re-upload?

I've attached few jpeg maps from tfl with useful data (miles between stations, travel times) that my help us a bit.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chris10230:
right i will do this but it will have to be in a about a week when i have some time!

It will be done and when ive worked out the svn stuff again ill PM all of you the info. The only thing that you need is either a gmail account or google apps account so that i can invite you to it when its set up. If you PM that info then i can set you with access to it when its created.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] marasp:
hi chris

i was about to send u PM with details of my google account but unfortunately i saw that

"chris10230 has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her.

If you are trying to send this message to multiple recipients, remove chris10230 from the recipient list and send the message again."

regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chris10230:
marasp try again as i had an option of mods and contacts selected so it should work now.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
Happy for still some people interested in this app.

I bought a domain and a virtual server to make "share maps" come true, but unluckily not enough time to me to do it quickly, even my Paris map is still incomplete.

Expect the London underground, maybe sometime i can use the map you created to travel. i will try to make more time on this app to let it easier to use and share.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 12aon:
Hey you created a very nice app, and you'll have followers no matter what :), 12
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] captsakis:
THANK U !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] daywalker72:
Can't add tourist sites

Hi,

I have problems adding tourist sites to my map.

I try to add (Picture: Touristsite-add.jpg) and after it push "save" nothing happens. When I close the window I got an error (Touristsite-error.jpg).

Am I to stupid to understand that part of the map creator or what do I have to change ? :confused:

I use version 1.0.4.8 of map creator.

Thanks

daywalker72
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
There shoudn't have any problems here.

i will test it this evening and reply you then

thanks for your info.

====================

REPLY:

All fields must not be NULL, for now the Description and URL is not used. you can just insert a "space" to these fields.

maybe i should fix it.

thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] daywalker72:
Tourist sites works now

Hi,

that was my mistake. It works fine now. Thanks.

What would be a nice feature would be a "lineviewer", where I can view all stations/stops of line line (like that one in metro if you know that program).

Very good program. Thanks.

daywalker72
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] daywalker72:
feature wishlist

Hi,

I'm testing an playing around with my map. There are a few features that would be nice:

1. to limit the transport modes that could be choosen by the program for example: only busses or busses and trams. If the map was created with different transport modes

2. to manipulte or control the generated route a littel bit with a travel point so to travel from point a to point b via point c

3. a weekday feature; my bus or tram lines didn't depart at the same times on different weekdays. At the moment I had to create one map for the weekdays monday to friday and one map for the weekend.

I don't know if this is possible or if it is to complex.

bye

daywalker72
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
Hi, thanks for the comments.

i will publish a new version in few days which resolves some bugs and WVGA display issues.

then i will continue on the:

* transports limitation

* a to b via c

* and line viewer

for weekday - weekend issue, i can't modify anymore the map structure, so i will think on other method.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
OK, now 1.0.5 was released today for some bug fixes.

now it support

WVGA screens on portrait or landscape mode.

hardware keyboard on station selection.

it fixes some display issues on screen rotation.

it manages better the memory.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] marie75:
great and very usefull thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
Thanks for the new release!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] P-A-L-A-D-I-N:
Hello x_sliver,

seems to be a very nice and extremely useful application. I have been looking for sth. like that since I have seen an Iphone TV commercial showing a kind of subway app (unfortunately I do not know its name). :D

What about the maps for your application? Do you have sth. like a collection of all maps you and other users have already made?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
I was trying to build a Website about this project so we can easily get maps from it (even we can browse and download maps directly from the phone via 3G/GPRS connection), but i need time to do it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nothingtosaw:
If you need any help with a website, I can help out.

Also I was wondering if it was in your plans to add a full timetable feature.

Currently, when one creates a map in the map creator, they can specify whether services run on an interval or a timetable.

The timetable however is only a daily timetable, not a monday-sunday timetable.

I found it difficult to create a map of the complex New South Wales railway system where lines have one timetable monday-fri and a separate timetable for saturday and sunday. It was even more difficult when some lines had special timetables for friday and saturday

which would mean I would have to create four 'lines' for what esentially was the same line (monday-thurs, fri, sat, sun).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
same here in france and also in my country, the timetables from monday to sunday are variants. I have an idea about how to realise this feature and keeps also the compability, but i think it will takes me two months to do it (not only CityAdvisor but also the MapCreator).

for now you can create your map on monday to friday, and make a copy of saturday-sunday, make different filenames. when this feature is done, the rest to do is renaming the file.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] P-A-L-A-D-I-N:
That would really be great! I hope you will find some time to realize this project. I would like to help you since it seems to be a lot of work but unfortunately I do not have the skills to create an application or even a website. So my only "help" can be to sponsor the final version of your app by making a donation and telling everybody around how nice and useful this software is. ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] peredenoel:
well done ,firstly i find your post in bbs revefrance?

but there is not more attention to your great job, its a pity.

Aujourd'hui je le trouve dans le page principal du website xda, felicitations!

我也是写方框子的中国人，呵呵，对你的开发的软件表示佩服和恭喜了。

再接再厉，祝你成功！
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] artur_sss:
Russian language

Good program. Thanks a lot.

How can I make resource file for Russian language? Any templates/instructions about this?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
The multi-language support is temporary removed after updating from verion 0.7 to 1.0 because many modifications have done on the kernel.

I will rebuild the ML ressources as soon as possible after the first version of website cityadvisor.net have been done. please give me 1 or 2 week(s).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
Hi, guys!

for weeks of work, the cityadvisor has its own website : www.cityadvisor.net.

This site contains all resources about this project: CityAdvisor, MapCreator, Existing maps and of course in the future, the documents. It is eaiser to share the maps there than in the thread, because all maps will showed in one page, and it shows only the lastest version of each maps.

this website has also the multi-language capability (now english, french, and chinese), but now not all pages are translated (don't be afraid, english is always the default language).

the site is still underconstruction, essential functions works

works to do:

1. update cityadvisor to support find path with some lines disabled (useful when accident happens on a line).

2. update cityadvisor to support find path with selected transports (for exemple: take buses and trams only without metro).

3. reactivate multilanguage feature for cityadvisor.

4. update mapcreator to directly publish maps on the site.

-- ALL RESOURCES CAN BE DOWNLOAD ON THE WEBSITE, WITH LESS THAN 3 CLICKS --

-- DOWNLOAD ALL RESOURCES HERE : WWW.CITYADVISOR.NET --
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbonzz:
cool: i'll keep updating my maps :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
Hi x_sliver,

Here is a reviced map for Athens Greece (contains new stations), in Greek language.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
Thanks for this new map. i've added it on the website. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
update:

1. a Chinese version of Shanghai Metro map is added to Map Database.

2. a SiteManager is building, from now (the shanghai map). all new maps will be published with four browsing languages on the website.

Check the website now and get the 2 new maps.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hsmcd:
Really nice app especially for ppl who always travel in other new country like me. Thanks for developing :cool:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] The_Steph:
x_sliver,

Since your update I give your new version a try. Unfortunately it is not working fine under WM 6.5.X.

Do you plan to implement support for this OS version soon?

The_Steph
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
Most UI code is based on .NET CF, and no special functions used by C++ kernel, so i think it is not hard to support the 6.5.X systems. Since the 6.5.3 SDK has released, i will have a look at it soon.

--MARK--

After a little search, i found MS has pulled this SDK, i can not found the download. i'll have a look then the SDK is newly avilable

--MARK--

It can run on WM 6.5 in my TouchPro2, i don't know as it doesn't run properly on 6.5.X.

thanks for your infomation.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] The_Steph:
x_sliver,

I did not make myself completely clear. It is working but as CityAdvisor screen overlaps WM 6.5.X taskbar (that is at he bottom ab contains the X to close the app), it is simply impossible to exit it without killing the task.

The_Steph
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
Thanks for your explaination, perhaps I got the reason of the problem:

The app disabled the main menu at the bottom of the screen to have a larger UI.

But unfortunately, the close button was moved to the bottom-right ( instead of top-right before) on WM6.5.X, so the Close button is covered by the app.

The solution is to add a button (or something else) to let the users quit or minimize the window.

Could you Confirm? If it is the problem, I can fix it without having the 6.5.3 SDK.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] The_Steph:
x_sliver,

That's exactly the issue I'm facing :)

If you need any help to test any updated version on WM 6.5.X, I'm OK with it.

The_Steph
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
OK, thanks in advance.

I'll let you have a test before next release.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
a new version of CityAdvisor is released: 1.1.0 build 27.

Improvements:

* Fixed: two memory leak problems.

* Add: Searching path with a line disabled(useful when accidents happened).

* Update: UI modification to support Windows Mobile 6.5.x .

* Update: UI modification on advanced search.

* Update: Tweaks on search engine, it may returns a better solution.

* Update: The map Paris - Ile-de-France was updated with 16 metros, 4 tramways and 5 RER.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hanackin:
this software is really awesome !! Thanks a lot for your support :cool:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
x_sliver,

Thank you very much for the new update!!!:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
The new muti-language support feature is done. I've modified the MUI method so the executable file will be smaller and the execution will be a little faster. I'm adding MUI files with the resources someone has helped me for CA 0.7 (DE, ES, EL, IT, ...).

There are some new features added from 0.7 to 1.0, so I attached as well the new resources at the 1st post. hope that someone can help me to translate.

when this is done, i will release the next version, Will include:

MUI

A bug fix of CA: when the line has no logo -> crash

new fonctionalities of MapCreator

thanks in advance!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbonzz:
here's the italian translation.

Will send you soon also the updated Milan map (some 50 new lines)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
Thanks for the translation and the incoming map.

This file was integrated and played well except some little display errors:

some text is too long for the button and the text is truncated.

I'm looking for a solution for this. Either make smaller fonts or display them in two lines.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cyclu:
Problem in favoris, programs crash.

Sorry no speak english.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
This problem is fixed this morning, please wait for the next release.;)

This is a regression bug.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbonzz:
Or i can change words:

"Info mappa" instead of "informazioni sulla mappa", and

"Aggiornamenti" instead of "ricerca aggiornamenti"

Let me know
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Giannis86:
i will start on netherlands train stations right away..afterwards london (i know netherlands transportation system much better thats why :D )

by the way..how about having the program display what times the trains leave?

for a metro( paris for example) there are metros every 2-3 minutes so i guess it isnt very necessary..trains is another story though..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbonzz:
btw, i've given a quick look to paris-ile and barcelona maps... and all the connection times are set to 3 minutes and next station connection is always 2 minutes... I know this is still a pre-release, but in this way the "intelligent" calculation will be useless
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
yeah, as you said, add time table about train will lead the maps become too complicated. because, every trains runs with a different number and name, maybe they also have different stations to stop. so i think we can make another program like "train advisor:p" to profit than this one.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
to make connection and nextstop times more accurate, i have to read and test many operator's data. but even the operator (RATP in paris, for example) can not assure the accuracy of the data, because we always face the problems like accidents, delays, or rush hours.

the program will choose the best path in "theory" (choosing the best result from fastest and less connecting paths), that means if we set the data like connecting and timeToNextStop more accurate, the program will find the better result.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
let's take a example about how i calculate the time.

line 1 have stations 101, 102, 103, 104, 105

line 2 have stations 201, 202, 103, 204, 205

you want to travel from 101 to 205, then the route is

101 102 103 204 205

you have to change to line 2 from line 1 at station 103, TimeConnecting is the Average Time you need to travel from the platform of line 1 to the platform of line 2.

so the total time is 11 minutes

101 -> 102 -> 103 = 4 minutes <- 2 x TimeToNextStation

103 Line 1 -> 103 line 2 = 3 minutes <- TimeConnecting

103 -> 204 -> 205 = 4 minutes <- 2 x TimeToNextStation

so the times is well calculated.

TimeConnecting is only used when you change the train at one station, if a station is not a interchange station, then this value is not used.

Yeah, i know Termini, i've passed 3 days in roma.

ok, Rome have 2 lines : A and B, and interchange station is Termini.

so Set the TimeConnecting to the Time "You Walk from plateform of Line A to the Plateform of Line B", it takes 3 or 4 minutes, i think. other stations is non-interchange station, so this value is not used, just for keeping the format. you could set them to 0.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbonzz:
ok, got it. another thing: i cannot install the cab (you have excluded PocketPC in cab xml as unsupported platform)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbonzz:
i too know paris: i've been there a lot of times ;)

(but i live in milan: i'm doing rome only since i'll be there next week)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
I'll check it this evening.

sorry for that inconvience.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
but i do not know too much about paris, just worked here for 1 year.

the most interest things i like in france and in europe is the castles. i like very much the ancient citys like rome, athens or paris, which have a long history and contains lots of museums to present a very different culture.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbonzz:
well, i installed the app manually. And there's a bug: if i select Rome (attached) as city, the app tells me Rome is selected, but when i go back to home page, the app still searches station in paris map (and the default map is still said to be IleDeFrance)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
I Tested on my phone about your map. it works.

for changing the map, you should push the Earth icon (2nd on the bottom,left), after selected the map, push left menu "Select", then the map of roma should loaded immediatly. (ok button for now it doesn't work, i will fix it)

Default map is the map loaded on the startup. it will not changes when you change the map. and My Favorite and To Home/From Home not works when you didn't running the default map.

if you want to load Roma when startup, choose Roma as the Default Map
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbonzz:
ok, you're right: i didn't press the world :)

now rome is only a test: i'll improve it tonight with also trains and (if i find the map) buses
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Marshall07:
This tool is really nice, x_silver!

It gives a finger friendly access to public transport data!

Keep it up!

Marshall
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
hey dudes,

i have update the thread for adding the map specifictions.

now you can create your own map.

i will start develop the map creator. when it is done, you can maintain maps by using this tool.:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
To Home Button

Something is wrong with "To Home" button.

When I not select any A station, program crashes.

When I select previous the A station and then click on "To Home", station B name is the same tha A (but program calculate good the route)

Regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
yeah, i've got the problem, fixed. display errors.

will compile and update CAB files in this evening.