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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Grab the latest version at http://www.crc.id.au/deviceupdate

It should work with all devices.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Hi all,

I'd like to take a moment to mention that Device Update has now served over 1 million applications.

Even with increased demand, the back end still seems to be holding easily and there's no signs of problems with capacity.

I would like to apologise for the slow down in development. Finances have been stretched to breaking point in the last few months which has led me to focus a lot of my time on projects and activities to pay the bills. As some of you know, my flying training is still underway - leaving me with a huge loan and climbing interest rates. Yay.

That being said, I still have a development list for DeviceUpdate and I still manage to write a few lines of code a week - so things are getting there slowly.

Again, thanks for your support, and I wish everyone a safe December / January. Hopefully there will be a new DU release between now and then too! :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Park82:
Thanks for the app!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] armedmetallica:
i'm trying to figure out how to get the apps to install on SD card -- any help would be appreciated.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] armedmetallica:
i just selected the 'use shell installer' which gave me the option
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JonesL:
I take it this app is dead? links dont even work anymore :/
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Links work here... Anything particular?

edit: Ah - the EU mirror seems to be broken at the moment... I'll keep an eye on it and see what happens.

edit2: I've removed the EU mirror from the list until it comes back. All should be working now.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] matckal:
thanks

very nice utility but can you make the interface more attractive?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
I probably could.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
The EU mirror has returned. I've added it back into the global mirror list. Those in Europe should see some faster speeds now.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JonesL:
Thanks, but ive noticed that the shell doesnt actually work correctly when asked to install a download to internal memory or the sd card it always installs to the internal memory

thats using the newest download too
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
The CAB file has to support it as well by the author. If the author has disabled installing to an SD card, then you won't be able to do it no matter what.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JonesL:
yes i am well aware of that ie windows live, however facebook can be installed to the sd card but none of the applications using device update will ever install to the sd card they only go to the internal memory where as i selected sd card installation

facebook application from microsoft directly will install to the sd card the one from device update wont
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
The facebook app on DU is not the same one as the one you get from the MS website. It's a slightly newer version made for WM Standard devices that has been modified to work with WM Pro (touchscreen) devices. This could be where the difference is. I'll have a look at it when I get some time.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] newyorkerboy:
Hy!

When I downloaded the compressed index file, can I locate it somewhere to copy this? Can I keep it after the decompressing to watch its content?

And is there any possibility to keep the downloaded CAB files after the installation expect to copy them during the installation?

Thanks.

And, I can advise you to take a download manager part to the download status windows that shows "34kB/125kB, one and half hour remaining" for example.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aestivalisakito:
Sorry its taken someone from DU to respond but I have some great news, over the next few days you will see our database grow exponentially. Currently we have around 110 Apps, this will be increasing to somewhere around 200 within 2 days. Also all current apps will be updated to their current versions.

CRC has been extremely busy and I finally have some time to do all the updates and put this app back on the map. Keep in mind I just help maintain the DB, I did not create nor did I have any part in DU's development, creation or concept, that was all CRC and people he gave credit to.

That being said do not pm my inbox with issues (although I have never seen any and I have used it on 4 diff devices). If any apps are listed and the developer would like the app removed, please PM me to let me know, as we try to respect that. Ill post a full list once the updates are completed!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aestivalisakito:
Okay so due to some time constraints (and because I have to adjust each cab slightly) I didnt get it updated as much as I wanted in two days but I have increased it to over 130 Apps! Again over the next few days this will increase even more.

For the current list click the little word right..........here
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Yes, I've seen this increasing slowly - good job :)

I've been doing a lot of C# lately - and I'm really starting to get tempted to completely re-write DU with a lot of extra features :)

I'm looking at just about killing the entire current code base and starting from scratch again with much better coding skills now...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aestivalisakito:
Well hold off for another day to see if I get a response from you know who. ;)

(Let the rumors begin im sure)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
I've already started some of the rewrite - mainly a massive code cleanup. We now do multithreading! Simple and clean code which is replacing the spaghetti style that is v2 :)

Simple code = simple management. All the download functions have been re-written. The XML parsing has been rewritten, the startup code has been rewritten. Going quite well :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aestivalisakito:
Well for christ sakes! LOL your just too quick!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aestivalisakito:
Hey everyone, just so u know crc is working quite hard on this, I got to test a very early sample and it is very nice, parsing is quicker downloading and query are faster, we just gotta work out a few small details but, if this alpha is any indicator....well lets just say u guys will luv it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Hi all,

The main server for this is currently down. I replaced the server yesterday, however one of the ex-admins powered down the wrong server and sadly, the new one is now sitting in the colo turned off.

My attempts to revive it from remote have failed, so I have to wait until Monday to get someone to turn the thing back on.

Sorry all :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] s2007:
do you think about update to new version your program? What is plan?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
The plan is to continue to hassle Microsoft about bugs in VS2008 & Windows 7 that have destroyed my motivation to persist with the rewrite of DeviceUpdate. As you can probably figure, development has stalled at this stage. This doesn't mean I'm writing it off however - its just not a huge priority.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] s2007:
Thanks for your reply.

Windows Phone 7 in my opinion will be only gadget like iPhone and will be killed for Android and new iPhone ASAP.

Windows Mobile 6.x.x is system for geeks and good decision is MS will be support it long time! I am geek and I love 6.x.x.

Will be fine when it will be priority for you update DU for new version. Thanks for all! It is very good application
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Agent1:
hey guys

Im getting this error again!

Error loading catalog.

Check Internet

Connectivity and try again

happened like a year ago but it turned out to be a server issue is it the same deal?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Works ok here.... anyone else getting this?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SilentlyScreaming:
I'm getting the "error downloading catalog. Check Internet Connectivity and try again."

at the "downloading compressed index file" stage. It occasionally gave a .NET CF error instead. (An unexpected error has occurred in DeviceUpdate.exe. Select quit and then restart this program, or select Details for more information).

Details button leads to NullReferenceException. at System.xml.xmlreader.calcbuffersize (stream input) at

I can type up the rest if needed?

That was with 2.1.1.1, I then tried with the latest beta available (2.1.2.1) from your site (the one for WVGA devices that aren't detected properly).

This gave the same error. I've tried quite a few times over the space of a week or so.

I'm hoping this issue is fixable - let me know if there is any more information I can supply.

(HTC Touch Pro2 stock UK unbranded ROM)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Most of these errors occur when DU can't contact the server to get an index of software. See if you can get to www.crc.id.au from the browser on your phone. If not, that would be where the problem lies.

Out of interest, does the same happen when you try via wifi?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SilentlyScreaming:
Thanks, I hadn't thought to try using a different connection method. As I was initially using WiFi anyway, I turned it off and used the phone's Edge connection. Success the first time, and having now switched back to WiFi, it connects without a problem. Might be worth adding that as a tip in the first post for others to try if they are having problems getting the program to run for the very first time?

A couple of other thoughts... Is it worth caching the index file for a day/week/user defined? Less strain on your server, and you could always add a manual refresh option for users who need to know no new updates/apps have been released in the last 12 hours :)

Secondly, error messages - is the .NET CF error unavoidable when the list can't be downloaded? Also, if you cancel an installation, your program still returns with "Success! Downloaded and installed 1 addons!". Not the end of the world I appreciate, but just thought you might want to know.

Oh, also is it possible for the program to not quit after an install? If you didn't put in place the caching of the index file, then not quitting each time would make the program request the index less often. Obviously if a reboot is necessary after an install, this is unavoidable, but in many cases I just want to install three or four unrelated programs in a row, and don't need to be thrown out each time :)

Thanks again for the tip, glad to be back in the program once more, I found it very useful on my TyTn II

[edit]

One other quick query, are the CABs automatically deleted after installation (I'm using the shell installed, I should have mentioned previously; I seem to remember the programs installed to the device otherwise?)? I was hoping to archive them on the storage card along with the CABs I've already manually downloaded, in cases where I've had to re-install without internet access available. I had a quick search around and couldn't find the CAB just downloaded, but that may just be not looking properly.

[edit #2]

Just donated a couple of cups of coffee to you via PayPal

[edit #4]

Spoke too soon re. WiFi now being OK. Once again the index is failing to download. Turned off WiFi, let Edge connect instead and no problems. Tried to then turn on wifi and disconnect edge, wasn't able to continue communications via WiFi, even after a restart of the program. You don't have any files hosted with a blogspot/blogger blog do you? Those are the only issues I've run into with my ADSL connection here in Kazakhstan (some political blogs are disliked by the government, so a blanket ban (technical issue/hitch if you believe the BS)). Other than that, all sites, services, weird port numbers etc don't cause me problems like the one I'm currently encountering.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Not as yet - however I should be able to handle this much more gracefully in v3 - which is currently under way.

As yet, I haven't even noticed the impact of the load on the server. Each index is created dynamically - and the server is nowhere near loaded. The index is only about 8-12Kb depending on device - so I see no real benefit if the initial connection and fetch is handled correctly.

I hadn't noticed this, however one problem with the way CABs are installed on WinCE/Windows Mobile is that there is no real way to tell if an application has been installed successfully or not. Theres just no return code or status to check :(

You can select multiple items at once and all should work. Due to the way v2.x works, the status may seem to hang on large downloads, but it will still work. This is completely rewritten in v3 and you'll actually see the download progress in bytes and percent complete for each file.

Sweet! :)

CABs are deleted after installation - even using the shell installer. As data seems to be so cheap on most plans these days, I haven't bothered writing anything to keep program cabs. I then also have to worry about versioning etc on the device - especially between hard resets etc. Not impossible, just a pain in the backside!

Received! thanks :) You'd be surprised how few people do this. I think it'd be somewhere in 1 donation per 50,000 applications served. Maybe 60,000 apps. Lucky I'm not in it for the money ;)

It certainly sounds like a connection issue - which the only real way is to verify all is on with the data connection - whatever method that may be. At the moment, the weak part in the chain is the index server - as there is only one of those across the globe - however there are quite a few servers with the apps on them. I have had some thoughts on how to change this, but nothing has really come of it yet...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] spannernick:
Hi I have a same problem I have a t3238 clone so it don't have wifi so the only way I can download is using Window Mobile Device Center.I can get your site up on the phone (www.crc.id.au) Steve's Blog Device Update is not downloading the index file and coming up with .Net framework error..

Maybe you could have download mirrors to the index file and put in the options in Device Update,I would be happy to host it..:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mike2nl:
Hi CRCinAU,

at 1st the idea is genius, really...

Installation:

1st = 2.1.1.1 problems with connecion (active sync and wifi) :confused:

2nd = 2.1.2.1 update ok (working with active sync and wifi) ;)

Applications, misc and so on:

The most of them are to old and some are no longer supported.

And the list have not all the gooddies ;).

Questions:

- Can we send a list with updates, or how it is working?

- Do you hae a search routine to get update information?

- ...

Future request:

- possiibillity to save a favorite list (most used apps)

- after download a popup that tells me how many data i have downloaded on list update and apps downlaod

- ...

Last but not least:

This can be one of the top apps when it is ready, or better when all items

are nearly actual. Possible we can help you to bring this genius idea to

a state of a very user friendly and actual version. What do you think?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
The problem is that the index isn't a file - its dynamically generated depending on what device is being used. This way we can filter out apps that are incompatible etc without just sending everything to the device and letting it figure it out. This being the case, it can't be easily mirrored!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Theres a lot of improvements coming with DUv3. The entire client is being re-written from scratch to make a lot of what people want possible. Like all good things though, this will take time.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mike2nl:
Hi CRCinAU,

that is clear and i agree with that. Possible you can inform us time by time over the status or in the 1st posting, like [||||......]. That will be very kind of you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SilentlyScreaming:
Just to let you know that I'm still consistently getting problems downloading the index over WiFi. I left it a couple of weeks in case there were just temporary blips somewhere between my connection at home and the server the index is hosted on.

For what it is worth, using the phone's EDGE connection nearly always succeeds (at which point I then terminate the data connection and switch to WiFi), and I've just changed from the stock UK unbranded ROM to the latest Energy 6.5 release.

I'll be very interested to see how v3 and its backend changes alter things. Once again, thanks for all your efforts, and if you are open to suggestions for other apps/updates to existing entries, I'm sure many here would be happy to lend a hand.

(hmmm, must update my sig soon)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Aerodeath:
Tried to install it on touch2, received some .net error.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
I guess I should give you some solution then.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] BoBaN75:
Same thinks on my HD2, NEt problem but I got the right NET on my rom
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Not really helpful to find the problem from this... You'll have to give more details if you want some kind of help...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mike2nl:
Hi BoBaN75,

which .NET version you have installed?

Do you have installed also the .NET messages cab file, for advanced error messages?

Do you have activated or better checked that the new version is really active? Do this in the registry under:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\.NETCompactFramework

Please check this all first and give us please the asked information, otherwise we can't help YOU. Also which phone you use, manila version and WM version. Take a look at my signature. This information we need. And the OP has asked you about that, so please be kind and help first..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SilentlyScreaming:
rotfl

In terms of the issues with initial index download via WiFi, I've also noticed issues with PockeTwit as well, though index problems have been constant between stock UK unbranded recent ROM and... um, I think the newer one is in my sig. Energy 14th Oct?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Aerodeath:
3.5.9198.00 is my current version. When I tried to download and install from the msi, it says I have a newer version.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] BoBaN75:
.NET : 3.5.9198.00

Rom : 3.14 fr mix with tmous driver to unlock ram and how to copy the error message
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
The main issue I see when people have problems loading the index is that internet access is not working on the device. This could be due to being forced through a proxy, or something else not quite working right.

If you get this issue, see if you can surf the web using the browser on the device. If not, thats your problem.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] BoBaN75:
Tested via 3G, home wifi, public wifi and same error, and I can surf
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Can you get to www.crc.id.au from your browser on the phone?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
I'd just like to let everyone know that as of this point in time, my work on DeviceUpdate has stalled.

My Touch Pro 2 has become faulty *again* which makes it very hard to develop without a working phone!

More details:

http://www.crc.id.au/2010/11/25/htc-when-warranties-go-bad/

http://www.crc.id.au/2010/12/08/more-on-the-ongoing-htc-drama/

Bottom line, HTC suck at support.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Aerodeath:
One of the main problems with your app is with .net Framework. I believe I'm not the only one affected by this. Wondering if a solution could be found.

By the way, I've tried both WiFi and 3G and am able to surf, but receiving the framework error.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Have you updated to the latest version at http://www.crc.id.au/deviceupdate ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pauch_19@yahoo.com:
hello,

this is the first time that ill be posting a message. and if ever my concern has already been brought up you will have to forgive me again. I have a htc tytn II windows 6 professional with a ROM version: 1.81.707.0 WWE Radio Version:1.27.12.11 and Protocol Version: 22.45.88.07H. yes id like to think this is very much outdated. I decided for a while to just let it be this way since im not really a teachy and i dont know much about flashing rom or updating softwares and all that stuff. this phone was only given to me by someone who doesnt know alot about this stuff either. hehehe! When i found out about this discussion i decided to post a message hoping you will be able to help me. I really want to overhaul this phone from the latest available softwares but again i dont know much. So I want to know if this application is the answer to my solution without doing to many complicated things that would just end up bricking my phone.

hope you can help me.

thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SilentlyScreaming:
Paunch, you might want to choose a forum name/alias that doesn't include your e-mail in the future - makes it easier for spammers to target you.

DeviceUpdate is a like a convenient store for many of the apps/tweaks that you might want to install on your phone. However, without knowing what you'll be using your phone for, any advice is going to be shooting in the dark.

Have you read the threads that list recommnded apps for your Kaiser/TyTn II? Check out all the threads mentioned here as a start.

Let us know what you plan to do with your phone - will you have an unlimited data plan with your mobile phone company? Plan to look at a lot of websites? Online videos? Play a lot of games? Carry out admin/work related stuff? Audio, video etc. etc. etc.

Also, you might not get as many answers posting your question in this thread, compared to a Kaiser specific sub-forum
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pauch_19@yahoo.com:
Thank you Sir,

Will try changed the forum name. My phone is not under a data plan actually. its unlocked to all carriers here in our place and im just using a pre paid sim card. Actually Ive initially installed cool applications but those are just easy ones. on a much more technical aspect im completely lost. Basically I just want to update my phone to the latest os and and softwares available. I've read some discussions here saying they were able to update their phone to windows 6.5. but the process is way too complicated and technical for me to handle.I can be happy with just an update to w6.1. (I dont think I deserve this phone.) hahaha! After upgrading, maybe I can try to install apps/cabs that can be very helpful and cool at the same time. I wasn't sure if this was the proper forum for my concern but i decided to post anyway hoping anyone could lead me to the right direction.

Again sir thank you for the help. will try too look around more.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] spannernick:
I have Device Update v2.1.2.1 on windows mobile 6.1 but it is not working using usb Activesync only on gprs can anyone help..?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Can you browse the web on your device when connected via ActiveSync?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] spannernick:
Can't download anything and device update cab too on the site...is there a server problem..?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] spannernick:
Can someone answer or is it just me having the problem..?

mmm...don't look like it works anymore...what a shame...I use it all the time...:(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
What error do you get? It all seems to be working from what I can see - but maybe a mirror site is having problems?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CRCinAU:
Ah - just having a quick check, it looks like the mirror for Europe has dropped off the face of the earth. I've disabled it for now as I investigate whats happening to it - so it should work again - although it might be a little slower to people in Europe...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] spannernick:
It working now..:D

I thought it might be a mirror problem..

I can provide you with a mirror on my site if you like...??