yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] looby:
Diamond2...

Looking VERY good :p:)

Chatty, only about 1 or 2 mil to allow for bigger battery
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Sleehond:
OMG

I think the Diamond II is look BETTER than Diamond.

And the specs are alot better ofcourse...

Maybe going to spare for a Diamond II and sell my Diamond :eek:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] mjames_84:
Looks like HTC are going to provide a free upgrade to Windows Mobile 6.5 for the Diamond2 when it's released. Wonder if the original Diamond will get the same love :confused:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] kien:
Also has micro sd card slot.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] ericsson68:
Very much doubt it but they are presenting with MS later aren't they, so you never know.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] ctyy:
Touch Diamond 2 Release !

Processor Qualcomm® MSM7200A™, 528 MHz

Operating System Windows Mobile® 6.1 Professional

Memory ROM: 512 MB

RAM: 288 MB

Dimensions 107.85 X 53.1 X 13.7 mm (4.25 X 2.09 X 0.54 inches)

Weight 117.5 grams (4.15 ounces) with battery

Display 3.2-inch TFT-LCD touch-sensitive screen with 480 X 800 WVGA resolution

Expansion Slot microSD™ memory card (SD 2.0 compatible)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] itoYo:
**** processor (or drivers,whatever) dont want it ! looks a decent phone tho! good size.

i stress the performance issue again
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] ctyy:
You wouldn't got such small size on Intel/Xscale platform.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] kien:
Video. Looks a bit bulkier than the Diamond.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] supersanj:
demo video of the TD2:

http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/first-hands-on-with-the-htc-touch-diamond2-with-video/
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Zodler:
I bet it will still have this MAJOR bug!:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=412065
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] supersanj:
one of the best things about this would have to be that its battery has a 1100 mAh capacity compared to the diamonds 900..
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] supersanj:
one worrying thing is the processor. its using the Qualcomm® MSM7200A™, 528 MHz chip

the diamond uses the Qualcomm® MSM7201A™ 528 MHz

so looks as if the TD2 is using an older processor chip???
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] arix:
More RAM, Camera 5 Mega Pixel, and battery is better, hope speaker would be better as well...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] mmoonsamy:
i dont see a d-pad :confused: do you need a stylus to press those call pickup, hangup and home buttons :p
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] supersanj:
Really great video here:

They've added alot of new stuff to TouchFlo3D! New calendar, sms, smoother picture viewer etc!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4HQvKVVYi0
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] shoonari:
whats the difference from HTC touch HD?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] supersanj:
spec of the touch diamond 2:

http://www.htc.com/www/product/touchdiamond2/specification.html

spec of the touch HD:

http://www.htc.com/www/product/touchhd/specification.html
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] angler:
Why HTC use an older chip?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Phantom1275:
I don't mind if it's bulkier. Here in Brazil Diamonds have a 1340mAH battery, which makes them bulkier, but also feeds them for a couple days of above normal usage without charging.

IMHO, it has a good size, right between the original Diamond and the original Touch Cruise (Polaris). But a 1100mAH battery is not enough for a WVGA GPS gadget.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] zyborg:
Please dump the Touch Diamond 2 ROM and port it to Touch Diamond - so I don't have to upgrade. ;)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] supersanj:
it would be interesting to see how the new touch 3d ui would work on the diamond..

but as far as the entire OS goes it wouldnt be much different as we all pretty much are using WM6.1 through someone's cooked ROM already.

Now i hear a rumour growing that HTC will even be shipping the TD2's with WM 6.5, they are just waiting for Microsoft to announce and release it officially first..
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] defaria:
Will they sell this in the US? I see the CDMA thing. Why does the US always have to be different? I was holding out for the HD but when it was said that the HD will not be offered in the US I went with the Touch Diamond. I really wanted that larger screen.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] arix:
The big problem with HTC touch HD is the weight (146 g) and the big size (115x62) , the new diamond just 117g and size 107.9 x 53.1 ..
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] defaria:
Also does anybody know when this will be available?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] supersanj:
but the touch HD has got a better battery and 3.5 mm audio jack
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chribruu:
Nice phone. Looks a tad too big, but still something i would want.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] koalaii:
Footprints ?

Any chance to have the Footprints feature like in the new HTC Cruise ?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] band27:
Will be available in Europe ........arriving in the 2nd quarter.

Haven't seen any announcements slated for US or Canada yet.

Interested to see improvements regarding speed, smoothness and the extra features which in some cases thanks to the chefs we already have.

koalaii

This doesn't have the Footprints feature.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] emiletelkamp:
I've seen movies of the Touch Diamond II on Youtube, but the touchflo 3D still isn`t very fast, for zooming in pictures you now use a bar at the bottom of the screen, the Touch Pro II also has this feature.

There are a few new tabs like calendar, and the phonebook is now all HTC, not the Windows Mobile phonebook anymore!!

I don`t know, think i`m going for the Touch HD instead of the Touch Diamond II because i like the design of the Touch HD, this looks just big...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] monk3r:
Looks great but as everyone else says the spec hasnt vastly improved. It's great that we have an SD slot and bigger screen but surely this will put an even bigger strain on an already struggling processor. Hmm maybe they will tweak it a little more but i wouldnt hold my breath!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Aqrab:
wowoo

diamond 2

good name :)

anyone know how much it will be ?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] xavierdemon:
I don't think it looks as good as Original Diamond, I'd consider it when I'm entitled to upgrade. Specs do look good, shame they didn't include flash, lets hope Diamond 3 does :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Zodler:
Still no standard audio jack?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] NielDK:
Useless discussion.

But ...... To continue this useless discussion heeehhhh HAAA

http://www.htc.com/www/product/touchpro2/overview.html
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] adil786uk:
Looks good. Just bought the original diamond. :( Am so behind.:P
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Anthony2oo5:
Just been watching windows mobile 6.5 on engadget and noticed that they are using the new diamond.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/windows-mobile-6-5-walkthrough-with-engadget/

So cant be far away.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Lokosis:
meh, cant say im interested, its basically the Touch HD but with a smaller display. The lack of the directional pad is what ruins it for me. Its hard to use many WinMo programs without one.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Murdoc2k:
i wish they've kept the same design but giving us the bigger screen, flash, extendable microsd slot and 3.5mm headphone jack instead of this useless redesign which I don't think looks better
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] ozkarah:
I am dissapointed. I was expecting a great new device from HTC. there is no innovative thing in this release I think. It is a Touch HD in Diamond case with same sucking cpu and chipset (I hope at least gps chip is different and 3d is better ) . Not enough to change my diamond with these specs. And I am sure (thanks to the chiefs) for diamond we will have WM 6.5 a short after it is launched for diamond2...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] dervish666:
It looks to me like they've seen the Palm Pre and thought they'd try and copy all the best bits.

I still want a Pre over this anyday.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] expo7:
[Video] WM6.5 on a HTC Touch Diamond 2

Hey people i found this video.

It show a running WM6.5 on a HTC Device

http://vimeo.com/3240086
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pokevitek:
Hmm, what about all video drivers we miss so much? I think that Diamond 2 is our biggest chance to get for our Diamond new drivers...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] StuartMaher:
T-Mobile Confirm the Diamond 2 and Touch Pro 2 will be released as Compact V and Vario V with both looking at a June release.

More importantly, like they did for the Compact IV, the Compact V will be in a redisgned case. And it loko s a hell of a lot nicer than the Diamond 2 casing (I also thought the Compact IV was a lot nicer then the diamond)

http://www.theunwired.net/?item=mwc...-based-t-mobile-mda-compact-v-and-mda-vario-v
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] psc001:
The MSM7200A is not an inferior processor to the 7201A.

The 7201A has some features disabled /removed due to patent infringement.

The Mobile Station Modem(TM) (MSM(TM)) MSM6271(TM), MSM6281(TM),

MSM7201(TM) and MSM7201A(TM) chipsets are available to customers who are shipping UMTS devices into the United States.

New product for U.S. market / Existing product for international markets

MSM6271 / MSM6275(TM)

MSM6281 / MSM6280(TM)

MSM7201 / MSM7200(TM)

MSM7201A / MSM7200A(TM)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Mercxedx64:
I hope the frame rate while recording videos is at least 30FPS or more and the resolution at least 640 X 680 (dvd quality) simular to the nokia N95,N96.

The TD1 vid recording was poor standard for me :(

The TD2 form factor is a nice design even though i will miss the sense-nav-wheel.

I would like to experience the new TF3D and see new themes, especially the "Bling! Theme" on this device.

Gonna wait for the O2 varient release hopfully by sept 2009!

HTC have more devices on the way simular to the TD2 & TP2 & THD1 - but not sure of thier codenames.

- Can't wait :)

PS: Hardware profile could of been updated slightly thou... processor, mem etc...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] monk3r:
Thinking about it i will definitely miss the scroll wheel more for the ability to move left or right. This is especially useful when writing a text as opposed to touching the screen and trying to get the cursor exactly where you want it. Sigh....
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] hkr:
thicker lasts longer, you know?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] hkr:
I guess it wouldn't fit ...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] hull:
not so outstanding,bigger screen,thicker,5MP cam,but lacking the memory storage now with a card slot....sad...thought it would come with 8GB or 16GB or maybe bigger size....overall i still prefer the 4gb diamond....:)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] iceblade997:
me too.

and the UI will probably be ported to our diamonds anyways...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pking:
Serously, a diamond without a diamond back?

Such a lame name.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] benko286:
manila on this diamond2 is grat if we got it on our diaond(i really hope we will get it, like we got hd manila ;) it is definitly no reason for buying TD2(except bigger screen)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] nuke1:
Pretty much the same marred processor as its predecessor. What a waste. Nowadays companies are releasing 800Mhz and 1Ghz phones, and HTC does this...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Menneisyys:
Definitely agreed. I, personally, wouldn't buy this model. HTC doesn't seem to be able to be able to invent any more...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Menneisyys:
Absolutely agreed. What a lame step is to release ANYTHING with an outdated, lame, old Qualcomm CPU. The 1 GHz CPU-based Toshi TG01 flies - see my real (!!!) benchmarks at http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=3339526 . These are *real* benchmarks, not just some vague but not benchmark-backed claims like "hey, it is blazingly fast".
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Lord_BlackAdder:
It is true that TF2 is not a big improvement over TD1 but let's put that into perspective. TD2 would come out in about 1 year after TD1. So I don't think it is meant as an upgrade path for TD1 owners but rather for people who have earlier phones like Touch, etc...

A typical mobile phone contract is 2 years so when my contract expires it would be TD 3 and who knows what it will bring.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] uccoffee:
I agree..... No d-pad, that means not the old WM anymore, which means I have to change my habit, which means I can get a mobile with doesnt use WM too ....
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Prewien:
the t-mobile version looks nicer indeed! but still MISSING A D PAD!!

htc should check with xda first and check what people are missing first before making a phone :p

and the comment about the 'the td2 is for replacements of older types' is true i think.. but not a smart move.. they should work om camera, gps, BATTERY LIFE!! and speed.. to name a couple of things..
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] supersanj:
speed is key. they should have put in the 1ghz snapdragon chip. the one thing i hate is lag!!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] benko286:
wm is fault for speed.

and yeah D-PAD is definitly missing, i love it on TD
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] losdrivare:
From NEW Diamond2: hope to see some of this in future Diamond ROMS!

The new Diamond2 at Barcelona:

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_mwc_09-review-325.php

Highlights that I'm hoping for in future cooked ROMs:

- The new TF3D now has a really nice integrated calendar with it's own tab, more appointments showing in Today and a good looking month view. Seems tons better than original WinMo calendar (one of the worst things in WinMo if you ask me).

- New reworked, better looking and more user friendly keyboards.

- New reworked and more finger friendly contacts application

- New start menu with icons, like programs tab in old TF3D

Looks really good - check it out!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Prewien:
oh my too much diamond 2 topics opening up...

wait till the device is actually being sold, cooks wil DEFINETLY make diamond 1 roms from it :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Aqrab:
Windows Mobile 6.5 on HTC Diamond 2 :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBdKCLH0JBQ&feature=rec-HM-r2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRvsXqXbr40&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62Y-GFVt00o&feature=related

HTC introducing diamond 2 and pro 2 :)

http://www.youtube.com/user/HTC?blend=1
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Mastermnd:
As far as i can tell, on the plus side

- Bigger screen

- MAYBE winMo 6.5

- Slightly better battery but who cares, I have 3 batteries for my diamond1

On the cons side:

- NO CAPACITATIVE KEYS!?!? :( :( I love the center wheel + sensorscroll.

- Bottom is silver. Looks bad

- Still no multitouch

- Still no headphone jack

- Still not-so-good speed specs

And TF3D seems improved, but: most of the things i've seen can be done on Diamond1 with some tweaking...

Thank you, but I'm keeping my diam1

PS: Style-wise the pro2 is nicer too!!!! Shame it is so thick due to the keyboard.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] emugpp:
Ohh maan, wtf..where's the damn 3.5 audiojack! what is it with HTC and their damn USB port! I'm not upgrading from my old Hermes..
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] val3nteen:
- Bigger screen indeed but not an major improvement (I mean another 160 pixels added to screen height...) made it a WVGA...

- WinMo 6.5... well yea... but not a big diff really just some tweaks here and there (still WinMo 6.x) better contacts (tweakable) better programs tab (I don't like it personally... ) it's just more eyecandy I guess.

- Bigger Batt ( indeed, but I don't see how 200 mAh would make the big diff, not to mention the doubled stand by time they mentioned o_O ) but we can also extend ours.

- TF3D Improved. OK. I can agree with that and with the fact that they added those tabs that we longed for (calendar, stock, call history) and probably improved sensitivity but we don't lack them either, it's just a matter of tweaking. Multitouch would have been THE IMPROVEMENT here...

- The looks are awesome ( I'm really down with the flat back panel and the metalic design ) This is a great improvement IMO.

- System Performance ( they nailed it here, no comments, the TD2 is way better )

- Storage ( better IMO cuz the microSD offers more storage and it's swappable )

- Better camera ( a 5mp is better than 3.2 although HTC phones aren't media-oriented, a dedicated shutter key would have sealed the deal! )

D-pad (with the circular zoom +4 direction keys and the ENTER key) > Silly horizontal zoom pad that offers the same thing (but lacks keys)

Oh... and where is the 3.5mm jack? I forgot... HTCz aren't media-oriented, but still...

Waiting for the TD 3 :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] swurvv:
Want this new touchflo 3d on my diamond! When?

COME ALL THE GOD ON XDA MAKE THIS HAPPEN FOR US AND WILL BE EXTRA GREATFUL IF WE CAN GET A WINDOWS MOBILE 6.5 WITH THANKS IN ADVANCE!:confused:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] mugglesquop:
Trolling much?

there is a couple of 6.5 ROMs you can try.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Nani:
Multitouch would have been a great improvement ... But ...

But MulltiTouch is an Apple Trademarked technology ...

This is why the Android Phones are not MultiTouch ..

So if HTC wants to use it, HTC have to pay It ... :-(
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] mugglesquop:
they might have copyrighted the name 'Multitouch' but i find it hard to believe that they have put a patent on the idea...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] losdrivare:
From what I've seen of our excellent cooks, a device doesn't have to be released for them to be already using parts of its ROM!

This is just a wish-list of features that the new Diamond2 has that I'd love to see in my Diamond, and also a heads-up for those of you who hasn't noticed the new device.

Thank you, Prewien, for contributing by sharing your feelings about the amount of Diamond2 topics. I hope you feel better soon.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Prewien:
thats true :) some of the cooks here are fast as hell :D like that about them..

but i've already seen so much topics about the diamond 2.. imho its better to just have one topic for discussion..or even already the separate forum..

don't be offended by that post.. it was just that it poped up first...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pokevitek:
How big is chance that Diamond 2 has all drivers we need?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Prewien:
if the word multitouch was trademarked HTC would've said a Dual Touch or something (touch dual already used :p )

and htc paying for multitouch? apple wouldnt take the money, apple would go for the exclusiveness
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Aqrab:
hope so :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] jdogg4000:
How do you do this on the diamond?? Do you use a different program?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] StuartMaher:
Why.. thats exactly what a patent is, a protection on an idea. It effectivley stop s copycats in industry. If you think of something innovitave, then you get a free run at it for a number of years (Or can licesnce it out).
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] allenf:
That TouchPro2 has WANT written all over it when my Diamond contract comes up for renewal in October. Unless HTC release something even better of course... :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] mugglesquop:
very very very very very small.

u need a electron tunnelling microscope to see the possibility.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] cyron_at:
...really funny - for me!!! and why`?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] benko286:
also what i like is viewing pictures much better/faster than on the old album
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] ozkarah:
can you please give more detail? what are the differences and disabled features?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] JesperO:
Meh, most things sucks about it. The good parts which is the new TouchFlo3D and possibly windows 6.5 will hopefully get ported to the firstborns anyways. Only thing I miss is as previously stated the 3.5 mm jack and sd-card slot..

And the back of it is just.. PLAIN!?!? Why even call it Diamond? They could call it like Rock or something more suiting. I mean it's thick as a rock, it's ugly as a rock, it's nothing new about it really which also is similar to a rock, it's grey, it looks boring. I vote for HTC Touch Rock - Come closer to nature.

.. the dockstation could even be a regular stone piece with a carved out slot.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] fazalali110:
lolol..relax
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] crucytor:
No tv-out?!

There is nothing written about a tv-out functionallity in the Diamond 2. :eek:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] maw:
why do you guys complain so much?!

Yo

Ease off on the complaints! You don't have to buy or get this phone, its not a must! Furthermore Jesper, everyone complained about the Diamond back saying it wasn't stable when on a table due to the design of the back cover, now they made it flat and even but retained the diamond shape metal triangle, and still you complain! Can these guys ever do it right at HTC? You got to be Dutch to complain this much.... Or Swedish with Dutch ancestors... only Dutch people can gripe and complain like you do, its genetical... I know, I have been living with them for 18 years...

All in all for those that are upgrading there phone that they got 2 years ago will love this phone, that is also the group that is targeted here by HTC! U just got a Diamond last year, relax dude, end of this year, beginning of next year the phones for those that got a Diamond or Touch Pro will be next seeing that their 2 year periode is over! So dude, relax man, let those that are upgrading enjoy this phone....
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] helterskelter:
Oh dear, guess we're stuck to one-handed usability. Damn....
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] the_maker:
i've been reading you msgs mates, and as a long time HTC user and a loyal "brand" cusotomer i have to say that (if you read the specs) Diamond 2 has become a different design "Touch HD".

Now if you ask me, a price performance ratio is on the wrong side of D2. The HD is cheaper, has better performance and is proven to be good.. Maybe the strategyu of HTC will be to put the new HD 2 on the prime spot after a while, but now it is a difficult choice.

click on www.gsmarena.com and see the comparison between the D2 and HTC HD and tell me the story..

It is the same phone, just better and cheaper.. (diffrerent design thou....)

Cheers...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] JesperO:
Lol! Just went through it, that's sick. The HD is actually better at some points, like it has a 3,5 mm audio jack. Otherwise they're pretty much the same inside.

Why make two phones with an almost identical hardware?