yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
•	some stations are missing: ie impossible to find "aéroport d'Orly",

That's normay, not all transports are inclueded in the map, like RoissyBus, OrlyBus, OrlyVal and Buses

•	Routes are not always optimized: ie I got 3 connections for a route where only one would be enough

There is an option of the search, which you can select from "Fastest", "Balanced" and "Less Connecting"

•	some connection errors ie: connection between 2 lines which do no cross each other

Can you tell me where it is? that must be a mistake of the map.

•	option "avoid a line" does not work: no lines list appears

•	the same for "avoid a station: no stations list

you must push on the text below the title to Add lines or stations to be avoided

•	How to change to landscape mode ?

no accelemeter supported, so no automatic retote, if you have a model with keyboard and when you slide out the keyboard, you got landscape.

•	I can't figure out the meaning of the total time posted at the bottom of the screen, it does not equal the sum of the routes ?

Total time at the bottom means "The sum of every transports + the time needed on each connection", that will be larger than the sum of every branch in the

• I don't believe it takes the train time table into consideration ?

It depends on map and lines, take Paris for example: for Metro, RER and Tramway, the timetable is estimated based on the traffic frequance, and the nightshift buses (Notilien) are based on real official time table.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
Now here are pictures for Windows phone 7 and Android:

Windows Phone 7:

Android (for Android 1.6 and above):
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
Sorry, I discovered this discrepancy during my tests, but I don't remember which route.

However, I still notice the following discrepancy: for a route going from "Boissise le Roi" to "Robinson", I am just proposed "RER B" where it should show "RER D + RER B" with a connection at "Chatelet les Halles" !

ok, i'll have a look at this on both maps and algorithm. i tried on by android phone, it propose RERD + B but doesn't make a transfer at chatelet-les-halles.

OK it works for a station by entering its name, but not for the line: when I try to enter its name, nothing appears on the screen. Shouln't we have the list of the lines which are proposed for the route instead of typing it ?

There are two dark lable, push on the "Avoid station" to add station and push on the "Avoid line" to add lines.

and yes, when you choose lines, there will be a list to be selected.

I agree on this theory except that sometimes, it does not take so long for a connection.Consider the route from Boissise le Roi to aeroport Ch de Gaulle 2: sum of 2 transports = 107 min. total at bottom=133. i ame sure it does not take 26 min to connect at Gare du Nord ?

Nevertheless, I love it and will use it as it is, its design is very helpfull.

Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]

The time is not just used for connecting, because if you take a connection, you should "Wait" until the next train arrives. the waiting time which based on timetable or estimated by frequence settings is also included.

In reality, the frequency of RER B to airport is 15 minutes or more in "Creuse" times and 10 minutes in busy times. this time is also included.

this time is not optimized, but it helps not to be late. this method is still optimizing to arrive more "precious". (now i'm trying 1/2 frequency as "waiting time" for the lines which has no specified timetables).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] elyl:
x_silver, do you have any plans to support full timetables for routes any time in the future? At the moment you only support departure time+offset which is not sufficient for more complex travel systems (e.g. trains and buses at different times of the day, rather than just underground).

If you supported full timetables, I suspect it would make creating maps a lot easier as you could import a standard table and extract the data from that.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ibowl77:
Avoid a line:

There are two dark lable, push on the "Avoid station" to add station and push on the "Avoid line" to add lines.

and yes, when you choose lines, there will be a list to be selected.

Sorry it still does not work: the "Eviter une ligne" label is dark and when you push on it, nothing happens, there is no lines list

Thanks for your help.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
That will be a chalenge of map creator, which import a table (almost in HTML or PDF format) is not as easy as you think. it should be converted to an intermedia format before import to MapCreator.

i can create different lines based on the analyse of the imported timetable, that is possible but takes long time to realize. so my priority is to port quickly CA to android and Windows Phone 7, then i can do some study on this table based times.

Yes, in that window you choose the lines, but here we may get the problem of display (someone report me too about this bug but it is not showed on my phone and simulator), are you using HD2? choose "lines to avoid" and "i"->"Les Lignes" should have the same result. i'll take a look at it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ibowl77:
Yes, I have the HD 2 with original Orange rom.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] odyon:
nice screenshots!

Looks very nice and promising! At the moment there are already a couple of metro-planning programs out there in the android-market(i haven't checked them, because for most of those you need to pay, and i doubt whether they have an advanced optimization algorithms ;) ).

However, one tool which gives the option to import (and take with you :D ) maps of different cities is as far i know not out there..

bring it on! :cool:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
I found the problem.

you must installed the CAB version, there are something wrong with the map in that package. that's why you have a blank screen. the search result must like

M3 -> Levallois

normally, it should show the LOGO of M3 instead of the text. i will currect some bugs then will deliver the new version quickly.

P.S. you can copy the attached map in CityAdvisor\maps\

(extract, copy and overwrite) Thank in advance for your test, you can contact me if the problem persists
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
Thanks.

It is easier to design UI on Android and WP7 because the OS provides a better interface, that will not take me too much time to develop the finger-friendly feature (they have it already). so the development is eaiser than in WM6.5. I decide to realize "Localization" in these two OS to find nearest stations. count on me, these two versions are not too far to see !
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ibowl77:
The discrepancy I noticed before: wrong line for a route going from "Boissise le Roi" to "Robinson" has been corrected with this new map.

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ben.thorn:
Some UI Issues

Great app.

A couple of UI issues.

I'm running on WM5 with QVGA resolution.

- Select Lines (under Advanced Search > Avoid a Line). Can you add a view to show the text of a line name rather than just the logo/image? (Make it the same as the "View Lines" feature under Information) It is not possible to tell the difference between 2 lines if they have the same logo.

- Journey Search Results window needs some means of scrolling. If many transfers are present (more than 4 on QVGA resolution) the bottom transfers cannot be viewed. Tapping on the screen closes the search results window.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ibowl77:
Another issue with "Optimize the search" : whether you choose "Less connections" or "the fastest" you get the same result.

ie a trip from Boissise le Roi to Tolbiac shows 5 lines (3 conections) in both cases where you should show 2 lines (1 connection) when choosing "Less connections").

regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] odyon:
how is the android-beta development going, x-sliver?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
Hi x_sliver,

The map of Brussels (Bruxelles) is not working for me (it is not show the corresponding stations when I insert letters). :confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] odyon:
city-advisor is a dead-end street? hoped to hear something.. :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] daywalker72:
CityAdvisor on Android

Is there something new about CityAdvisor for Android ?

I used it on my WinMo. I switched to Android and would like to use it there too.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] LDjack:
Map of Barcelona

Hi,

very nice app :) I had some problem with the map of Barcelona.

I could douwload it but it would not install correctly ? While the files are present in the maps folder, It is not available in CityAdvisor.

What's wrong ? Thank you in advance.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] odyon:
Still coming back her once in a while.. any updates, x-sliver?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] helicid:
Please.

Prague-Czech Republic????????????Please.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ibowl77:
City Advisor Android
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tizio84:
x-silver!!! Where are you???

:( It's a pity such a nice app is dead...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbonzz:
Updated Rome with proper pics; added 2 lines
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
i didn't know such a software until today, but seems it did good, espacially the data. the data file of Metro is Palm Database format, i can't open it and get their data in the right way. in fact, the cities were created by 2 persons of Metro team, it is not easy and i respect their works. and i don't think steal their data is good (unless they let us to do).

the only way i can do is developing a desktop software to let us create maps easily (i'm on it). i will always work for this projet because i have tons of ideas about the NEW FEATURES of City Advisor. the matter is just time to realize it, and use my map creator to create maps.

i've just release it here yesterday, and in 24 hours, there are 2 more cities were created by the contributers, so i don't think the data is a big problem, because there are so many contributers here. i will doing my work well to improve City Advisor and City Advisor Map Creator, of course, also a website to manage and contribute maps.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
i have updated the CAB file, so the bugs mentioned preversly were fixed.

I'll keep your map, thanks for your contribution.

there has a little problem in the map, same to bacelona map

guid property of city section MUST CHANGED because guid="92467622-4A62-4EBC-9291-BEF2533ABF7B" is refers to Ile-De-France map. GUID is the unique indentifier of a map, in future it can be used to updated maps automatically. every map must have a different GUID.

everyone can visite here http://www.randomguid.com/ to generate a new GUID, then you should always use the same GUID for the same map.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] red_hanks:
Of course we will not STEAL their work. Let me see if I can contact them. But anyway, please don't forget to add manila to your maps ok? Thanks you very much. This is one of the BEST and USEFUL apps ever.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rafaelegomezb:
Can't install in my Trinity

Hello, X_Silver.

Of all the software I've been trying, this is one of the most useful I've ever seen, and still a great potential to develop. I live in Madrid, and I've been longing for such application, not only for the Metro, but also for the bus routes, for which I'm willing to give my humble contribution.

Unfortunately, I just can't install it on my trinity. I saw that you already updated the cab. (very impressive how quickly you did it), but no success yet. Could you explain how to manually install it? Will it work on my unit? I'm using Oggi Vista ROM.

And again, congratulations for having such a great idea, and implement it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
Barcelona GUID

Updated Barcelona Metro Map file in original thread with the new GUID.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
Hello,

can you tell me what error you got. for security reasons i blocked some platforms like HPC, Palm OS 2 and smartphones. but i don't think Trinity would be blocked. maybe i can build a cab without limit or made a green ZIP version to fix the problem you met.

thanks

OK, after the next release, i will try to contact them too.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
Thanks, i will keep it.

sorry, i was too busy last night, i forgot to give you the resource for translating. i'll try it this evening.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbonzz:
You can use PDBee, but it's not so much help anyway. there are only 6 records, and every record is a piece of info: one record for all the station names, one record for the file info, and so on... Anyway hanks has a good point: if we can have their authorization, should be great to use their maps (specs on data are on site).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Melkor:
I know it was already requested, but please:

ADD TIMETABLE FUNCTIONALLITY!! This is the lack of "Metro" and it would be really great!

What about different transport systems? Bus, Metro, Tram...? (there should be the possibiltity to add up to 5 or 6 different systems!)

Please add a button at the result screen to get back to the search screen more finger friendly!

If this is possible, I would add a map of Munich - including Metro, Tram, Bus, Suburban Rail and Nightlines ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
for now, mutiple transport system can be intergrated in the same map. the roma map is doing so (2 metro lines and several regional train lines).

for the timetable, i will do more research about this, because Metro doesn't need such a function, and take Paris - RER for example, some stations will ignored by some train. if it is not too complicated or it doesn't drop down the performance, we can add the timetable (especially for regional trains).

for the result screen, i'll add your comment, will improve it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Melkor:
Thx for quick response.

That some trains ignore stations depend on the city - I haven't seen something like this in Germany up to now ;). For my point of view, this function would be a great step ahead . although I know that it isn't very simple - especially if metro lines have a different length.

An idea for the timetable: only the startpoints of lines should need times - station specific times should be calculated by the system
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbonzz:
Sliver, i have a problem going on with Rome map.

See the attached image: Tuscolana (that is on line FR1) is connected with Metro A (the orange line), but there the station has a different name (P.Lungo). So, in XML (as now) i cannot connect them since the connection is done only if a station has the same name on both lines...

This occurred also with another line, but since it was the "terminus" (i know how to say it also in french but not in english :)) i added a "ghost" station with 0 time to connect and 0 time to next station. But here?

the only thing i can think of is to add a line named "walk" or something like this that connects the two stations
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
Yes, i've thought about this, but i haven't trade this case,it happens also in Ile de France.

Metro -> Opera

is connected with

Train RER A -> Auber

Let's doing this to solve this case:

Create 2 lines, with the name "WALK_CONNECT", with 2 stations in each line, set the logo as empty string "". when the program meet a line which name is "WALK_CONNECT", it will be traded as the special connecting.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbonzz:
ok, thanks (i did remember there was the same in Paris, but didn't remember where :))
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbonzz:
this way?

<line id="13" name="WALK_CONNECT" direction="Ponte Lungo" logo="">
<linestations>
<station idStation="11" timeConnecting="3" timeToNextStation="0" />
<station idStation="12" timeConnecting="0" timeToNextStation="0" />
</linestations>
</line>
<line id="14" name="WALK_CONNECT" direction="Tuscolana" logo="">
<linestations>
<station idStation="12" timeConnecting="3" timeToNextStation="0" />
<station idStation="11" timeConnecting="0" timeToNextStation="0" />
</linestations>
</line>
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
yeah, right.

for now, the program will launch an error when loading the map, or shows the name "WALK_CONNECT" as a line. but after i treate this case, it will work fine.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] red_hanks:
Done. I sent them an email. Hope they will allow us. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
I have updated the thread, at the end of the thread, there are

Map Specifictions : formated XML with Comments

Resources.zip: Resource to be translated, now we have English, French and Chinese. Translation of other languages will be appreciated

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbonzz:
Rome final

Rome final release. End user still cannot use this map, since it's for next City Advisor version (walk_connect enabled).

Inside:

- 2 metro lines

- 3 subway lines

- 8 regional railway lines

- tourist info

- a pdf transport map

Rome has also some 700 bus lines... but i would take my entire life to add these too :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbonzz:
i'd like to do IT, but have not Visual Studio. if you give me the strings i can translate them...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
The Visual C# 2008 Express is free, if you do not want to install it , i will do a string table in this weekend.

Thanks for your roma map, i will update the program too. Good night
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jvieira:
I'm staying in Budapest for 3 months and would love to see a guide here! Please tell me what must be done to set it up!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbonzz:
You have to compile the xml map reference as in post #1

(see my rome, if you have doubts: inside the zip there are the needed images, the xml and a pdf map to compare with the xml and see how the train lines are reported inside the code)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rafaelegomezb:
Hi, X_Silver. I just downloaded again the .cab from the 1st post, and now I could get it installed on my trinity. I guess this is an updated one. The message I was getting was simply :"app can not be installed".

I'll start trying it, and will give you my comments.

Thank you very much!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
View complete line

For futures features, is possible to add option to view a list with all the stations of each line?

What do you think?

Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
yes, we can. i tought about it, we can also attach the official map, to let the users understand better the city.

I'm developping the Map Creator, and "WALK_CONNECT" features which happens in both Rome and Paris. i'll put this in schedule.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rafaelegomezb:
Madrid map, first release. How to circular lines?

Hello, every body.

Here I present you with the Madrid map. "Metro Ligero" still to do, but will be included pretty soon. Anybody who can test it... with the 270 stations, I can't see any mistake.

I'm stuck in the situation of the two circular lines there are in Madrid. I tried to plot both direction including one single station two times: one at the begining and another at the end of the route so the loop could be closed (clockwise and anti-clockwise, I admit it was my guess), but it did not work. Is there any workaround for these cases?

Other than that, this is a great app!

Would it be possible that, according to the GPS position, it could indicate the closest station from where you are at the moment?

Is there a limit for the amount of stations in the map? I've been evaluating the possibility of making also the Bus map for Madrid, but there are zillions of stops.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
normally, if we toke line 1, then we will not take line 1 again (whatever the direction). but sometimes we meet branch lines and circlular lines that need us to take the same line. so..

look at my picture Metro 7bis, you can choose a station as Start-End station. and add "connectedWith" to it. this is a circular line, so, it is connected with ITSELF (the same name and direction). do it for clockwise, direction = clockwise, and do it again for anti-clockwise.

for now, if you do this, the program will count 1 more connecting in the path. but i will improve the result display to solve this issue.

i would not like to use GPS, because in the metro station, there is no signals.

but i'm trying to get coordinate with GSM base station (our cellphone connected to the base, if i can get base's informations, i can get the coordinate, like Google Map). it is not accurate, but it is enough to locate where we are

To search all possible paths, the complexe of the algorithm is n!. but to improve the performance, i set the maximum connecting times is 4. so now the complexe is n^4

n = line numbers (in reality x 2 because we have 2 directions).

so, no, the only limit is memory and the time to wait. if there are too many bus, the search will become slow, but, it always works.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
i have updated the program and the two cities is intergrated.

now Connecting station with different station is supported, like the following picture

Resources are now TXT file, so it is easy to be translated.

but seems the Roma map have following problems:

La Giustiniana

Acqua Acetosa

Morolo

Togliatti

These 4 cities appeared 2 times, so maybe it is duplicated when you add them for different lines. (i have had this mistake too, i added Opera for 2 times, and missed other 4 stations :o ). this will lead the problem when we have to change the train in this station (it will show some other results, or it can not find the path)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbonzz:
i'm gonna see: back in minutes with the corrected map
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbonzz:
-La Giustiniana, corrected

-Acqua Acetosa... Both station are called "Acqua Acetosa", but one is north, the other one is south of Rome :) I've called the southern one "Ciampino Acqua Acetosa", since it's in Ciampino town, but it's not its correct name (so i left the search key as "Acqua acetosqa" only

- for morolo is the same, but i have no solution: both the stations are called "Morolo": the southern one is in a town called also "Morolo", while for the northern one i have no references: guys from rome, please, advise on this one!

- Togliatti: the stations seems to be the same, but here too i have no sure references. Please, advise here too. For now i've considered it as the same station

Attached the corrected map (with morolo still wrong: i don't know how to proceed)

Attached as well the italian translation
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rafaelegomezb:
Loop lines

X-Silver, please correctme if I'm wrong.

The circled line you show in your attachment is a "one way" loop. If you take a look at the attached image, lines 12 and 6 are two way circles (different and separate lines) . If you see, for example, line 12, you could go from Parque Lisboa to Parque Oeste (two adjacent stations) going clock wise (the looooong way) or anticlockwise (the smart way). I think the natural start/end station should be Puerta del Sur, which would be connected to itself as you say, but in both ways.

May be I'm not getting you, but I quite don't see how to use the self connection you mention. Could you give it a look, and explain?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rafaelegomezb:
Spanish Translation

Attached file translated into Spanish.