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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbonzz:
seems there's a problem with time calc.

try, with rome, to calc the path frascati-fiumicino aeroporto

the first line time (frascati-termini) shows 17 minutes while should be 30 (13+6+8+3 connect)

<line id="24" name="FR4" direction="Termini" logo="Roma\FR4.gif">
<linestations>
<station idStation="177" timeConnecting="0" timeToNextStation="13" />
<station idStation="176" timeConnecting="0" timeToNextStation="6" />
<station idStation="175" timeConnecting="0" timeToNextStation="8" />
<station idStation="17" timeConnecting="3" timeToNextStation="0" />
</linestations>

the second path, termini fiumicino, shows 0, while should be 31

<line id="14" name="Leonardo Express" direction="Fiumicino Aeroporto" logo="Roma\Leonardo.gif">
<linestations>
<station idStation="17" timeConnecting="0" timeToNextStation="31" />
<station idStation="118" timeConnecting="0" timeToNextStation="0" />
</linestations>

seems the app doesn't consider the time from the first to the second station... (timeToNextStation is used instead as timeFromPreviuosStation)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] red_hanks:
they already replied...

from: Patrice BERNARD <metro@nanika.net>reply-to metro@nanika.net

to red.hanks@yahoo.com

cc: Frank Van Caenegem <fvancaen@yahoo.com>

date: Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 4:43 PM

subject: Re : TR: Metro Maps Authorization

Red,

We do not usually share our data. Especially for a project where you're trying to directly replicate what we are doing...

Sorry

Patrice

Well, so anyone can teach me how to create a map for Manila. I am not good at programming. I hope anyone here will help me.

:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Caramel:
Hum, whats the difference with this one :confused:

http://metro.nanika.net/
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
Barcelona Metro Map Update

I fixed several issues, stations missing, times updated and logo optimized.

Regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Giannis86:
hum..im getting several errors with the new version :S

the program displays "loading map..." on the first screen and it doesnt seem to go away..

Clicking on any tab crashes the application

just for therecord, the previous version worked perfectly

i have net fr.3.5 installed as well..

any idea on whatcould be causing this?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbonzz:
we DO a connect from frascati to fiumicino
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
sorry, i misunderstand your post. i did 2 search from frascati -> termini and termini -> fiumicino. if we search frascati -> fiumicino, now it shows 61 minutes

does anyone got the same problem with the new version? what is your default map before update?

you can try this: clear the registry HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\x_Sliver\cityAdvisor

if it doesn't work, try to uninstall then clear the registry and reinstall.

tell me if it works or not.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Marshall07:
Thanks for it bbonzz!

Marshall
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
Hey, i've changed the GUID of your map. because every map must have different identifier. this is the GUID value I've signed, you can use it with further version of the Madrid map: 7e0af570-f5eb-11dd-87af-0800200c9a66

Thanks for your contribution
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] slightly:
I think the original question was regarding finding the nearest station to you before you get to the metro or whatever. So, I leave a friend's house and ask City Advisor for my nearest metro, it tells me and I can then look it up on Google maps or whatever (or maybe you could generate an appropriate search link for Google Maps...) and use this station to start planning my metro journey...

I think this could be *really* useful if it worked with GSM tower (fast, not very accurate) and GPS (slow, accurate) :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Pciolka:
somebody mirror please. general link dont work.thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
I've updated the program to fix the bugs and new features, now the download link has also updated

CityAdvisor 0.7.2009.0208

* Support Circular Lines

* Bug fixed of calculating times

* Spanish and Italian Language
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbonzz:
two small problems with italian:

i've done a typo in translating

FrmMain
=============================
label1.Text	Trova il precorso dalla stazione A alla B

has to be corrected in

FrmMain
=============================
label1.Text	Trova il percorso dalla stazione A alla B

(precorso-->percorso).

Then, probably something has messed up with txt encoding:

Resources.resx
Result_To	A:

displays as a square (see attached pic).

Last thing: i have a Touch HD (480x800) and the app works perfectly, so you can update 1st post and add WVGA to supported resolutions
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
Done, the cab is up to date.

yeah, the two byte : become to rectangle. it is the Tahoma font's problem, it shows well in my computer, but shows a square in Windows Mobile. i changed it to one byte :, now it works.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Marshall07:
Let me say, x_silver,

I'm following your app since the first release and I'm very satisfied with it.

It is very promising... Keep it up!

Thank you so much for City Advisor!

Marshall
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ZzFDKzZ:
Nice, can't wait for NYC maps.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] YNWA:
congratulations 4 one more time

would you please make a new link for a new cab with the add maps included?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
the link was not changed, but the cab is always updated. if you click on the download link, you always get the lastest version.

now Paris metro, Barcelona and Rome is included in the CAB, when the madrid map get work, it will be included also.

a website will also set up to provide program and additional maps.

The map creator is expected to be released on saturday feb. 14 (ah, no it's valentine's day, so it may be released on feb.15 ;) ), then we can avoid to create the maps manually.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NoFearWizz:
Tried it it Paris, and it worked great :P good application :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] VamosErik88:
Congratulations,that program it's fantastic and very useful!

A little suggestion for the Rome Map: on the train line FR7 you should add two stations before "Latina":

1.Priverno-Fossanova 59 mins about to Roma Termini

2.Sezze 50 mins about to Roma Termini

3.Latina

4......

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
Is there any way to use the data for cities, from this program (hxxp://metro.nanika.net/), to this beautiful application? :confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
no, their data is Palm Database, and the authors did not allow us to use their data. so, we have to create the data ourselves.

the map creator is expected to release tomorrow, then it is easier to create and edit maps for ALL.

this is the Map Creator for now, i'm still developping it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
OK, when the map creator will come, we will have to start our work!:p
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
Expecting the map creator release, to start building our databases :eek::)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fhsieh:
App looks promising. There are a few features that are hard to find in other apps that would really make it an exceptional program:

1) Fare calculator: Some cities have multiple lines that charge different fares, meaning different transfers could cost less.

2) Time calculator: Some cities with multiple lines might offer faster travel times with different transfers, sometimes just by adding a 2-3 minute walk to switch to a different station/line.

3) Train/bus timetable: Automatically read a timetable for a selected station (or a station en-route) in order to find out how long until the next scheduled train/bus.

4) Integrated graphical map, to help you visualize your route, or to make it easy to select a station.

Those shouldn't be too difficult to implement, it would simply require more data collection. The app would of course get a bit more complex, but you could give it a "Basic" and "Advanced" mode so that it's still easy to use.

What would really make it an amazing application is...

5) GPS integration: for above-ground trains/buses/trams, it would just require logging the GPS coordinates of each station. Then the app could find your current location, and then show you on a map where on the line you are and which station you're approaching. This of course would be incredible, since you could then set alerts when you approach specific stations, eg: to remind you to transfer.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sauveur_d_aeris:
great wwork :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
First Release of Map Creator.

Hi, guys. i release today the basic version of Map Creator to create maps for actual version of City Advisor. it is not hard to use.

this is the first version. it works but the program is not stable, please remember to press Ctrl+S regularly.

The Download Link is on this Thread #2, enjoy.

After today, i will start the website construction and study all your suggestions for the next version of City Advisor.

Thank you for all your comments.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
Thanks for the release of the map creator, but I have a problem: it does not start. When I try to run it a system message pops informing that it was a problem and it needs to close:(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Herr_Knigge:
same here, i'm running vista and windows 7 beta, doesn't work one both... would love to create map for hannover/germany and maybe berlin/germany!

by the way, do you need a german translation?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
I Installed .NET 3.5 but I complied it with .NET Framework 3.0. so Vista and Windows 7 Should work. and i'm using Win7.

I'll test it on another computer and report what the problem is.

a German translation is Great. the Strings is on my first post. Thanks

========================

i found where the problem is:

in fact a .NET 3.5 componant has been used. i'm trying to deploy this DLL with the program.

if not the program will release later.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
I have windows xp with .net 3.5 installed, but map creator does not start:confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
The Problem is that i did not include 2 useful DLL in the package.

Now everyone can try the Green version. it contains a exe file, 2 dll and 2 xml companied.

i tested it on the Vista machine with no .NET 3.5 and Visual Studio. it can be launched.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Herr_Knigge:
now it works, gonna start on a new map tomorrow. but at least the german translation is done. good night!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Georgeous2008:
I'll probably work on Luxembourg city, if I can get the time for it. Many thanks for sharing this great app!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
Looks amazing! Congratulations!! ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
Athens map - Full map with Metro, Suburban and Tram

x_sliver,

Thanks for the release of the map creator.

Here is a first release for Athens (Greece), which contains only the metro lines.

Edit: Now contain and suburban lines

EDIT2: Full map with Metro, Suburban and Tram
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
Thank you for all your contributions.

i'll make a german language pack tomorrow and release the City Advisor with a small improvement (use hashtable to store stations, in theory, that runs faster and eat a little more memory, especially for big maps.)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dancer_69:
Here is the Greek language resource file.

And one question, how can I change the language?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 12aon:
crash?

I have created the Amsterdam metro maps (no tourist info or image files yet), but when I select it in the city advisor it crashes on me. Probably did something wrong in the xml ( did get a fresh guid) but I don't know where to look, if any of you guys could take a look, 12
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] atomi90:
Can I have Finland/Helsinki maps and if possible also language pack.

Thanks for great prog. Cheers:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
the language pack is attached with your regional settings.

in Start/Settings/System/Regional Settings. if your Regional Setting is Greek and City Advisor has a Greek language pack, then the UI is Greek, otherwise, the UI is English.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] red_hanks:
hey x_silver, can't install the map creator. Can you help me out? Thanks Please see attachment...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
I'll Try it and find where the problem is.

i have previewed your file, there is a problem, which i didn't repeat after Map Creator, It is my fault, I'll add this on my second post:

DO NOT Add Addtional Connecting Lines when you add stations to lines, unless it is connected to itself (means, you have to change the train, but the train is under the same name, it is used only in branch lines and circular lines, etc.). for a normal connecting, Check "This is a interchange station", it is enough.

===============================================

I Modified your map, the problem is "Lines must have a Logo" for now, i created a blank logo for each line, now it can be loaded. it should be a little bug, and i'll fix it.

In your map, i deleted connectedWith value in each section LineStation, because that is used only for connecting on circular and branch lines. we don't need to edit the connecting lines, the program will do it. Only things we have to do, is to tell the program that "This is a Interchange Station" so, if a station is an interchange station: 1. set isConnected="True" in XML, or 2. in Map Creator, check "This is a interchange station" option when you add stations.

Map creator has a problem for now, when you add a station, you can't modify the info of that station again. in the case you have to modify the proprities of a station (Change the name, set it to Interchange, etc), you can edit the xml file directly.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
This program is compiled with .NET 3.0 (intergrated in Vista). i see you are using XP, so if you do not install it. that not works.

I'll try to recompile it with .NET 2.0, so XP machines without .NET Framework should run the map creator
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] red_hanks:
Thanks man. Never love Vista that's why i stick to XP, thanks really. I will wait for the next release of map creator. Thanks again :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Melkor:
Great. working on Munich.

@silver

How can I split a line? Because here, the trains are splitted up - so you have to be at the back or in the front to go to the right endstation ;)

Should I generate two difernet lines or are there any other possibilities!?

Please add timetable function. I'm not the only one ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
OK, I'll do a little search how to add it without do harm to performance :)

but i think the timetable could be added for regular lines (the train respect the table, and stop always at the same stations).

if you have a look at Paris RER, you will never do it, because the trains have many branch and for every branch, they don't stop at the same stations.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Melkor:
But anyway, I have some problems with the map editor. I get on a simple Route with 4 Stations an .exe error (UnauthorizedAccessExeption)

What could be the problem. XML has the same format like the existing maps (this map is a test map for me ;))
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
i searched some microsoft documents, i found that even XP SP3 has no .NET 2.0 pre-installed. for the program works on XP, we must install .NET 2.0, 3.0 or 3.5.

sorry for that inconvenience, but so that i can use the same class created in City Advisor. NET 2.0 is not very large (22MB for download).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
on my Vista machine, load your map will launch a NullReferenceException, because you forget the Tourist Sites label. if there are no tourist sites added, we also have to write a blank label <tourists /> after the <lines> sections, after add this label your map works on Map Creator (tested on vista).

if that does not works, the UnauthorizedAccessExeption maybe because the program can not access the file with it's default autorisation. try to change the security settings of the map file or run the program in admin mode.

The file will looks like this

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<city name="M" country="ger" description="nic" dataProvider="" icon="" version="1.0.2009.0216" date="2009-02-16" guid="92467622-4A62-4EBC-9291-BEF2533ABF7B">
<stations>
<station id="1" name="Mangfallplatz" key="Mangfallplatz" isConnected="False" />
<station id="2" name="St.-Quirin-Platz" key="St.-Quirin-Platz" isConnected="False" />
<station id="3" name="Wettersteinplatz" key="Wettersteinplatz" isConnected="False" />
<station id="4" name="OEZ" key="OEZ" isConnected="False" />
</stations>

<lines>
<line id="1" name="U1" direction="OEZ" logo="">
<linestations>
<station idStation="1" timeConnecting="0" timeToNextStation="2" />
<station idStation="2" timeConnecting="0" timeToNextStation="2" />
<station idStation="3" timeConnecting="0" timeToNextStation="2" />
<station idStation="4" timeConnecting="0" timeToNextStation="2" />
</linestations>
</line>
<line id="2" name="U1" direction="Mangfallplatz" logo="">
<linestations>
<station idStation="4" timeConnecting="0" timeToNextStation="2" />
<station idStation="3" timeConnecting="0" timeToNextStation="2" />
<station idStation="2" timeConnecting="0" timeToNextStation="2" />
<station idStation="1" timeConnecting="0" timeToNextStation="2" />
</linestations>
</line>

</lines>

<tourists />

</city>

but attention, for your maps working on the actual version of City Advisor, Lines must have a logo (city doesn't need). and you'd better change a guid, that guid if for maps of Ile-De-France.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 12aon:
Yeah I already did use an xml editor to change some of the details, but the new maps cause it to crash to I will update later, 12
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] red_hanks:
alright, so I just need to install all the latest .net? 2.0 3.0 and 3.5 right?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Melkor:
How should I do that?

Edit: solved :D

PErhaps you should add that you must use icons from the beginning (if not done, you get a error)

Suggestion:

- Adding the possibility to remove lines in the Editor :D

- adding two lines in City Advisor: for extra long names (my example is the station: Garching-forschungszentrum/TUM) and for adding interational standard names (e.g. "Hauptbahnhof" - 2nd line: "Main Station")
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chris10230:
making a map

Hi

i was thinking of making one for the London Underground.

Firstly is anyone making one already, so not to waste time by doing 2 of them?

Cheers looks like it will be an excelent prog when it has more maps on it!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
The Program is complied for .NET 2.0, and 2.0 is not so large. it should work.

.NET 3.0 and 3.5 added many new features. The higher version is better, and will have less protential problems. but, it is large.

it's your choice:rolleyes:

if your system disk have many space, you could install .NET 3.5.

I should solve this problem in City Advisor (means it is not forced to add images for lines)

Remove lines will be a little complexe, i have to delete the unused stations. because some station is used by another line, and some do not. this feature will realized in 2 or 3 days.

I'm thinking about a better way to treat the station names (as you mentioned), because now UI have a multi-language but maps are in native language. when i get the idea, i will told you.

So far as i know, no one announced to build a london transport. you can try one:)

I'm writing a document about how to use Map Creator. I think when it is done, it is recommanded to read.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gillespascoucou:
I cannot install this wonderfull app...Unsigned certificate...Any suggestion??
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
you mean City Advisor

or the Map Creator?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
Athens map - Full map with Metro, Suburban and Tram

In post #115 it is upgraded with full map with Metro, Suburban and Tram
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
I've modifiied a little:

1. we don't need to assign Additional Connecting Line for every interchange station. the program will do it. Additional Connecting line is only for circular and branch lines, or else, it works, but a little bit slower.

2. i found a little bug of Map Creator, with new Map creator, i do a open, save. then the bug is fixed. this version will be release in this evening.

after do that, the athens maps works on City Advisor.

This is my modified Athens Map.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
Thanks:)

Should I do the 'open - close' with new map creator, or it is already made by you?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
I've already done, you can continue your map with the map i fixed.

and the new version of Map Creator has not been released. i'm adding some necessery features and testing.

i think 2 hours later, i will upload it here.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
2009-02-16:

City Advisor Updated --> add German and Greek Language Floor #1

Add Zip Version for whom the CAB version doesn't work

Map Creator Updated --> more information view Floor #2
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 12aon:
Metro of Amsterdam

I iconized them, I must say i works beautifully. No sight added yet, and when I have some serious time to waste I'll start creating tram an bus as well, 12
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
Thanks for your work, very beautiful icons.

i've tested your maps, it can not find the path if the two station are not on the same line. so i modified it with Map Creator, changed interchange stations' (which connected with more than one lines) property isConnected = True (Check This is a interchange station in Map Creator), then it works perfectly. here is your map, modified. you can continue with this one.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 12aon:
Ah, was a bit confused about that, thanks a lot. Holy crap, I just checked the bus and trams in Amsterdam and there are about 30 different tram lines and 40 different bus lines, oh that's going to be a pain. Following that path will it be possible to integrate two XML's with each other. It would save users a lot of hassle when one can create a bus and the other tram and yet another metro and integrate these to one map. Just an idea, 12

EDIT: I do have some suggestions for improvement of this wonderful application:

- A search function that searches for a part in the text rather than from the first letter in the name (especially for stations that start with "the" or "de")

- It would be nice for a second option to show, when the first might the fastest in theory when at an IsConnected station, the first train to show might very well be the best option.

- I have a weird result (might be the XML) but when I choose an end station that with the IsConnected variable, other lines show up with zero minuted of travel time and in the opposite direction (image)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
Athens map

For x_sliver
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x_sliver:
Yes, there are TOOO many buses in the city, that is not friendly for us :)

-for this, you can assign a different key without "the" or "de". for example, if the station names "The Central Station", assign the search key as "central station", then when we type "the ce.." or "cent..." we can always find this station.

-Even in Options we can choose "the fastest way" and "the less connecting way", but maybe you are right, we should suggest other way on the result form, that will be easier. a good improvement.

- Which version of map you are using? in my phone, with the map i posted, it shows:

53 Gaasperplas -> Wibautstraat 6min

51 Westwijk -> Station RAI 16min

50 Isolatorweg -> Isolatorweg 22min

i will check my code this evening to determine whether it is the fault of search or the mistake of map.

Any way, you should assign the TimeConnecting property other than 0 for the interchange station for all lines.

Thanks.