yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Sorry I didn't upload the newest version. Somehow, in the mist of fixing all these little issues, I broke the notification enhancement. I won't have time to work on it until tuesday.

As far as the mms size, if you know the registry settings needed, I'll do it.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
ro dont sweat it man take ur time n the mms is good jst a bigger size for attachment n i can tell by the notification ivan it need a few tweaks n its good. theres no rush take ur time n the rom is da best ive seen on this site good job man
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] rdleezy:
lite rom???

hey maaan.... this rom is pretty cool!!!!! the only bugs i found is the dailer interface doesnt show anything its just a blank white screen on the "14v7wing" version..... but i can jus add a different dailer skin and its fine. could u perhaps make a lite version of the rom for those who like to personalize. Thanks again bro!!!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ruebyi:
There will be a light version!

Just be patient and wait until the ROM is finally released.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] livndeadgrl13:
ivan im on the 14v6wing7z and i wanted to know the difference between that and the newest version 14v7wing7z im very happy with the one i have and im trying to keep from flashing till the actual release so what changes have been made in the newer release, thanks love your work :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] nonpaq:
Ha Ha, I just noticed the last entry in the "My Text" menu for quick text for messaging --- "Ivanmmj's JustStable ROCKS..." Why yes, yes it does.

Any other "easter eggs" in these roms?

BTW, thanks for restoring the small icons in 14v7.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Are you sure you didn't flash the "sim" version? That one doesn't have a dialer. (For a reason.) Maybe I updated the SIM version twice. lol

Haha, I don't think anyone has ever noticed my easter eggs before. I can't remember if I've added anything else to this ROM or not. I've been developing it for so long.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] CRE:
LOL. I just noticed the messenging Easter Egg on Saturday!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Uploaded 14v11-Wing. There are a LOT of changes, especially in the graphical end, BUT I accidently broke the enhanced notification. I haven't figured out how it died, yet, so you won't see it on this build. (The files are still there, but it's still defaulting to the old one.)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] bduncan:
****e -I bet it's the canonyang rom for hardspl that did it...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Chongie:
HI Ivan,

I hate being the guy who is constantly bugging you for the Herald version of your latest.

But I really appreciate your ROMs... so...

Thanks/

Chongie
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] nonpaq:
Yikes, I just flashed 14v7 yesterday, and now I'm 4 builds behind :eek:
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
hehe, yea. Sorry about that. The connection was spotty. It took about 5 uploads before the wing ROM finally made it through. I'll upload it when the connection stops crapping out.

hehe, I don't upload every release. ;)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ruebyi:
You are great! I can't wait for the "Final" Lite Version :D

Just an Idea: How about releasing a lite, the "Normal" and a Manilla Version of your ROM? Or is it too much skinning? I know there are a lot of Manilla ROMs out there, but your ROMs are the best :p
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I already plan on releasing a lite version and a normal version. :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
Ivans latest rom

hey guys the latest rom seems to run a little slower than the 14v7, why is it slower ivan?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
What's slower? The whole ROM? The switching to landscape? Opening programs?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
Ivan man forget it man its becuz da first time i load it hahah i reset it n everything is fine ivan thanks man n for the mms how can i make it to 1200k ivan?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2636790&postcount=2

Just searched it. Going to add it to the next version.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
alright man thx for sure i will man n i loved ur rom man
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
MMS problem

hey ivan im having problems recieving mms from others but i can send
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Uploading 14v12 both Wing and Herald versions right now.

I've added the MMS hack and added an animated splash screen.

Anyone else having problems recieving mms?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] blove:
SIP button is disapeared

Hi, Ivan

Thank for the nice ROM!

but since JustHacked14V7 to JustHacked14V12 for Wing, have one bug: sometimes, the SIP button is disapeared, so can't select keyboard, i must reset device then it is apear again. I have tested on both V7 and V12 for this bug. I don't install any other software.

And more one thing is I don't see the animated flash when startup as you sad?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Chongie:
Hi Ivan,

I just flashed your latest rom for the Herald...

And I am regretful to say that I do not get pass the splash screen...

Chongie
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Just to clarify: The bug is no v12 but NOT on v7?

Strange... I'm gonna look into it. Is anyone else having a problem with the Herald version?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] blove:
The bug is exist in both V7 and V12! Sometimes!

V2, V4, V6 don't have this bug. I have flashed all:D
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
So the bug appeared after I removed the HTC Diamond SIP... hmm...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] dorfl:
14v12 herald not working

HTC Herald - Hi, only HTC splash for five minutes and nothing more.

I'm waiting on newer version. Thanks for your great work!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] blove:
Yes, i think so too! :)

But i don't like the diamond SIP!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
Series of SCREENSHOTS from v14.7 wing - larger startmenu

Ivan, in my travels last week I came across a little app called, from memory, neufonts, and it offers a really user-friendly way for someone to change system fonts and SIZES, and menu and pop up fonts and sizes.

Since one of the challenges has been to make the rhodium menu system work on your rom, this is pretty interesting because in effect all menus* (*almost all) become finger-friendly.

I am not sure if you, separately, tried fingersuite. I am not using it here.

I changed the Start menu highlight color by using a different .TSK file (task bar theme) that I had floating around. I've just posting these for people who can get an idea of what your rom can do.

I'm pretty sure the taskbar icons are different than your default ones.

Link to auto-SLIDESHOW (about 50 images)

A few sample images:

.

Also, for comparisons, a few versions back on Ivan's test JustStable roms, I made a different slideshow:

(EDIT: The image below, and associated slideshow showing TouchFlo, are not from Ivan's Rom. I forgot that I did not shoot screenshots of Ivan's Rom yet running TouchFLO 2D, but it does, smoothly, briskly. But i'll leave the image below because it indicates what also can run just fine of this rom.)

I posted a different slideshow of screenshots using TOUCHFLO, for whoever may be interested.

One example:
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
Hey I'm pretty slow to just be noticing this, but how'd you add that Google toolbar? where do you get it? thanx
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
Flash size error :(

I try flashing ur new rom ivan n i keep on gettin error
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] livndeadgrl13:
just go to google.com from ur phone and at the top it will say "more" click on that and u will see a list of apps, google mobile offers google search its the first 1 download and install it will show up on ur home screen just like mine, i love the app always use it, hope iv answered your question :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] livndeadgrl13:
iv noticed that sometimes i have the same issue i simply install the network wizard run it again even when its already installed with the rom and arcsoft then run them and uninstall network wizard (only if its in the rom already)

then soft reset usually that helps or reflash the rom sometimes thats what does the trick :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] sambalbij:
Can't download 14v12 herald :confused: error on mediafire

Edit: weird it's working now

Edit 2: stuck at "htc smart mobility"
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] nonpaq:
I noticed 14v11 was over 55Mb but 14v12 is down to 47Mb. Anything major left out or just better arranged? (Each build gets smaller)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
HELP!!!!

Can anyone helped me please i cant flashed ivans new rom 14v12
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] neiltoe:
I usually have a hard time getting past the splash screen on most roms but after I hear the ding I press the start flag and it usually gets it over the hang up. You might want to try that because I managed to install 14v12 without any issues.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] neiltoe:
Would you please consider using this copy of QuickMenu v2.8?

The text was edited so "Excute" now says "Execute" Wifi says "On" and "Off". I know that is such a stupid little thing but it has always bothered me. If not I will understand.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
okay but i try it man i think i did sumthing wrong can u show me step by step sorry
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] neiltoe:
Well I am hopeful you are HardSPL'd. But I would recommend downloading the file again and flashing it again. I doubt that the image was corrupt but safe than sorry in my opinion. Then just reboot and allow the install.

If you are confident the flash was successful and the roms image was complete after extraction then just hold down the two soft keys and press the reset. then you press the Green Call button and it will attempt to reinstall all over again. this time try and keep the screen lit by pressing the screen randomly. If after the dings press the Start flag. This some how lets my phone go on into the screen alignment. All after that is smooth sailing.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] neiltoe:
Would you please consider using another version of arcsoft? I have been using this version for a while and it does a few things that the version you are using does not.

For example when you get a new message while typing a message it will remove the notification. Another thing that is a bit odd with your version is the threaded conversations have a tendancy to stick at a certain point in the thread on my device. This causes me to re-focus on the last recieved or sent message to stay current on the conversation. (I have a horrible memory so I usually re-read everything before texting).
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] livndeadgrl13:
i doubt the image file is corrupt i too am downloading a second time, so keep downloading it till you get the whole thing, it happens sometimes :)

EDIT: ok i just tried to download for the third time and mediafile says the file is invalid no longer there, whats going on
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
i download like 10 times already ive been sittin in front of da pc da whole day tryimng to fixed it but thx tho ill continue doin that haha
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] neiltoe:
I do miss WM5torage being cooked in hope you consider that app.

If you are still looking for a sip I would recommend using BJK HTC Ezinput.The 3 cabs in the BJK HTC Ezinput are the application, english language pack, and a way to make the ABC Qwerty default input.

Also if you could consider installing a different version of HTC Home the one that makes a directory outside of "windows". I uploaded a copy I use it has diamond like images. Personally I always use a simple analog clock rendered by rlToday. It is lightweight and has all the essential notifications.

I hate to be such a spammer but I am under the impression you want suggestions if not please feel free to ignore every one of my posts. I just thought I would share what I prefer and what works great on your roms for me.

I sincerely hope I have not offended you in anyway and you consider my suggestions.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] neiltoe:
I downloaded my copy at 12:05am GMT. It was complete.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Sorry for not answering everyone directly like I usually do. I'm just busy at work today and I don't feel like answering that many posts. lol

The size of the ROM changes as I modify parts of it. As far as the version of arcsoft, I'm willing to try it if doesn't have the bugs that the 5.0.31.19 version had. As far as quickmenu goes, spell fixes are good. lol

As far as the errors everyone in having, it may be due to the connection problem I was having (maybe the upload was corrupted) or maybe the server is having problems. The file itself worked fine before I uploaded it.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
im still gettin da file corrupted man this is gay :(
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I'm building a 14v13 now. It has the fixed QuickMenu and the "working" arcsoft. I'll upload it in a bit and then you won't have to worry about 14v12. ^_^
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] neiltoe:
What bugs are you referencing to? I have been using the version I uploaded with JustMe for a long time it is awesome but it is missing the T-Mobile Network Customizations that allow larger MMS pictures. I just install t-mobile-customizations-tools.cab. I will attach it.

I really wish there was a way for me to put how I configure my phone all together and send it to ya so you could see what you like and dislike. I really need to learn how to do what you do cause I feel really bad spamming the hell out of you like this. But your work is appreciated.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
nice ivan okay thats kool i dont have to worry then
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
The new version will also have HTC Rhodium's Power Off enhancement.

I'm still having problems with the notification enhancement.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
Ivan take ur time to fixed it man everything ur doin to da rom r freaking da best rom ivan thanks
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
The builds are ready, but I'm weary about uploading them from here considering the issues that it caused on 14v12 when I uploaded those here.

I'll be uploading 14v14 when I get home. (Yes... 14v14.)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] guntcent:
omg damn 14v14 damn already ivan man hows much storage memory is there man same as other
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Both 14v14 versions are up.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
**I'm not as tech-savvy as most of your users. What does XIP stand for?

Is this the version of Windows Mobile that is the basis of the ROM? If so, does that mean this 6.5 version will have that new finger-scrolling system we all recently saw previewed in "leaked screens"? If so, that is awesome.

**I also would like to know, to learn more, is this one of the basic goals or principles at work for chefs: start with the most recent Windows OS you can get hold of? If so, where do these come from -- the newest phones that actually come released with that OS version, or from pre-release versions floating around?

** That's great to know. One of the most basic problems I have when logging onto wifi at places like Starbucks, or at airports, hotels, or cafes, is that in addition to turning on wifi, and "connecting to network", I then have to refresh the home-page of my browser, in order for the provider's login page to display... On my WING, I can never get this to happen on any browser other than IE -- and I hate this. I'd just as soon never use IE for anything ever.

Are you able to access that control as well, so that such wifi login pages will launch into OperaMini (or skyfire if I chose?)

Is this something taken from an HTC interface? I ask because on the latest ROM I am using ( a version of the Windows 6.1 Iolite user interface), what they call "larger start menu" is still not that much larger.... better for sure, but not fully finger-friendly. And lacking in visual contrast between each line-item of the list.

See, for example, ssj5trunks' brand new iFonz 2.0 interface (video) and you will see REAL finger-finger menus, with highly visible entries...

Sorry to hear that.

Am patiently waiting for what you release. Thank you. /quicksite
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] mavd5831:
Sorry about your dog.

very sad to hear about your dog =(....hopefully she'll get better =D
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Not the software version per say. It's more like the Kernel and all the kernel related items. Kind of like the core that everything else runs on.

Unfortunately, no. It is still way too buggy for my tastes.

From both the sources you mentioned. The reason for the newest OS is two part:

1. Newer usually means faster (not always.)

2. If you go with an older stable release, a lot of people will complain about it... You'd be surprised how demanding some non-cooks are. They want the newest even if it isn't the best. Even if it requires a lot more work to be stable.

I haven't added Skyfire to the list of possible browsers, but at the moment, any kind of shortcut to a browser will give you the option for either IE or OperaMini.

Yes, but I've been looking into two software that allow ever greater "touch-friendliness." But always remember, I prefer lean ROMs with gobs of free RAM and not too much stuff taking CPU clocks in the background, so they might not make the cut.

On a good note: My puppy woke up better feeling MUCH better. A lot like her old self, except with a cast that makes her walk like a pirate with a peg leg and sound like one when she's walking. lol
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] moSess:
hope its still happening!

i check every day for that sought after thread reading, "New Rom Release: JustStable.":p

Happy to hear the pup is well. I always liked signing cast. Something like "MoSess was here."
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Another Update

Look at the first post for another update.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] v5HMeca:
If wktask is what I think it is, it's lame. If I recall correctly, it's the one that has a "taskbar" feel to it so that you can minimize windows and whatnot. It's so buggy and screws up my task bar. Not to mention that its exceptions list doesn't always work properly, especially with windows that have no title. It was a neat concept, but it was a pain to work with.

Will it be difficult to uninstall?

I know on the Windows versions for PC, you can put in uninstall entries just by adding registry values. If the same holds true for WinMo, can you make it uninstallable?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
So far I haven't found any bugs personally. But I've been busy and haven't had a chance to test it too much. So far, it hasn't screwed up anything. The exception list has worked perfectly so far. (I remember when I tried it a few versions back a long time ago, the exception list did in fact NOT work properly, but so far, it's been working well. I haven't tested it with a window with no title, yet, though.

We'll see how it goes.

As far as "uninstalling it" goes, it's very simple to disable it. You can't remove the files if they're cooked in the ROM. But as always, I might create multiple versions or release a mini kitchen.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] moSess:
Vote!!!

Lets put it to a vote!;)

Whoever wants an early release, possibly buggy, version say "aye".

Those not in favor, say "nay".
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
There's a lot more to do on this ROM. Aside from my super anal perfectionist attitude that I have towards my ROMs, I've got a LOT of plans for the internals of this ROM.

Which reminds me... *goes off to change some of the settings in the ROM*

UPDATE: Actually, I might get rid of wktask. Not because it's buggy or I don't like it, but because it gets in the way of me seeing that I have pending voicemails. :p
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
As mentioned above, I'm thinking of getting rid of wktasks due to not being able to see the voicemail notification.

I've been thinking of integrating mortbuttons for a menu that opens up when you press the IE shortcut or when you click on a link that gives you the option to open the link in IE, Opera or whatever other browser you decide to install. (It supports OperaMini, Opera Mobile, IE, netfront, skyfire, iris browser, etc.) (JZ SmartMort + MortButtons) But I'm wondering if the loss of 2MB of Storage is worth it...)

The ability to copy and paste into Opera Mini is something that I've always wanted and this does it....
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] moSess:
I'll stop, I'll stop... :)

2 mb of storage or ram. With your roms I can do with less storage. The ram is always nice on the high side.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
New update on the first page. Not much info, but that's because I'm busy working on the ROM. :p
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] quicksite:
Somehow I didn't think it would survive the cut, based on the person's objections above. But I understand you're saying you didn't find it buggy, but moreso the taskbar obscured some of the notifications.

Understood. For what it's worth, for me, and I don;t expect anyone to be like me, since that new Opal Large Status Bar has been introduced, I reply upon it for all status & notifications now.

Just to make sure you know about it, but I am sure you do: when that is implemented (and it's part of the newest roms), when you touch that cluster of tiny icons up there like wifi, edge, notifications, etc, it pops down a huge oversize finger-friendly display of that whole top bar status elements.

But I understand: it's an immediate visual thing for you. I guess for me this has never been an issue since various places carry that info, including S2U2 screen ... but I know you are not necessarily going to include it, or you might use a way earlier version like the one I pointed to you a while back that PDAviet (Microlab uses).

One thing I also urge you to check is a .cab called somehting like "HTC Big Menu" .... It is what enables all tyhe bottom menus, and menus under things like "Pictures and Videos" to be big and finger friendly. There are choices kind of like Opera Mini: Small Medium Large Extra Large

In addition, I am still using QuickMenu and I still love it. Its adjustable menu height is great, and I *have* to believe he;s working on a patch that enables one to choose font size.

Related to font size. One thing I had never discivered until recently is quite helpful ... within "Aserg's Advanced COnfiguration" tools, there are, as you know, many configurable aspects of the Windows Mobile UI... Under the first header category, "User Interface", you can set the icon size and text size of the Windows icons that appear in Settings and program list (folderview.exe). Setting the horizontal width helps determine the scale/size of the icon, they can get bigger or smaller -- for arranging to be more finger friendly. And the text size can be independently controlled siuch that there are bigger icons, but say 7 or 8 point type...

Just providing exmaples of other controllable aspect of the overall UI to make the "shell experience" as finger friendly as possible.

The last element I strongly encourage you to try is swapping out the system font. Tahoma was good for its time, but it's now being replaced by SegoeBold, sometimes SegoeCondensed Bold, and there are other highly used fonts like Calibri -- which has gained favor for its really clean readability, and stronger font style.

again, i don't know what you already know but you're a pro and I am but a lowly noob when it comes to anything re code, but the way to trick windows into using a different system font is to rename one of these other fonts with aa in front of it, so as to force it to the top of windows list. Apparently it chooses system font based on that alphabetical scheme.

so: aaSegoe.

etc.

hope this is useful.