yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] red_hanks:
most nokia headsets have different connectors but if you are pertaining to the same as on BA's just make sure it has four rubbers on the plug
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
I have requested to be a mod myself, with no luck... I have been dying to put some order around here as well since this part of the forum, just like you said... seems abandoned...

As per Flar, the way it works is that all the mods submit votes for the new "prospective" mods at the beginning of the month, and every 15th the month Flar makes a decision based on the number of votes to each one.

Again, I have tried to go for it, but I can't seem to get enough votes from the others mods. You on the other hand, are far more popular than I am around the whole site. I am pretty sure that if you (or someone) proposes you to be a mod, you will get nominated without a problem....

Hey, maybe if you become mod, you can help me become one too :)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] + Que PPC:
Hello fellows!

I think I screw up my BA battery case jajajaja see the pictures!!!! :(

Its so hard to open it! so... at the first scratch i decide just to open up it all and see what is inside :p
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] red_hanks:
+QUE...what happened with the cover of your battery? We have the same structure of battery so I guess it will be easy for you to replace it with a nokia battery...good luck man..:D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] + Que PPC:
If you can aprecciate

on the first pic... you can see a little piece of the black plastic of the case... but the aluminium cover its scatched 3 or four times jejeje i think it is needed, because of the magnetic of batteries with the sim chip.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] snake_pliskin:
@Mnemonique

i stand corrected. i was able (somewhow) to get H&K BL-5C running on my xda-iis.

and its confirmed. ill post some pics on this matter tomorrow. so far its doing great.

though, im still planning to get a genuine nokia bl-5c.

ill keep you guys posted on this matter, before i get transferred to manila.

long live blueangel!!!!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Mnemonique:
oh my, you're from cebu too kewl!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] red_hanks:
Hooray..2 more pinoy friends here..lol :D, check oldsap and greatbal..one of our kababayan here at XDA-dev and they are such great developers...:)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] snake_pliskin:
BA new power source

like i promised an image of my BA new source of power. hehehe... utilizing H&K BL-5C....

@Mnemonique

cebu mulang! hehehe...

@red_hanks

when you successfully modded your battery you inspired me man.:D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] red_hanks:
Thanks man BTW CONGRATS Job well done! :)

@ebautista..here man as you requested my bootscreen

http://www.filedropper.com/redhanksbabios_1
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] hnyuk49:
some more fotos for you guys. These fotos are taken from PDAViet.

BA Battery Monster :eek: (Modded by Habubi - best romdev of pdaviet)

How does this monster look? :D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] red_hanks:
I don't think that's a BlueAngel...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] snake_pliskin:
i agree. look at the camera's location. its not BA.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] hnyuk49:
I'm sorry. the first two pics are of BA but the monster is Exec :D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] + Que PPC:
8100 mha??????????'

this gonna Xplode!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol:p:D am i happy? :confused:

well seems to be a HTC UNIVERSAL BOMB!!! TNT BOMB...

how much does it weghts? universal is heavy... and with this power? 500 gr?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Mnemonique:
and yet here's another one by me on my ba.

(Part I of III)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Mnemonique:
and yet here's another one by me on my ba.

(Part II of III)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] snake_pliskin:
congrats man!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] + Que PPC:
WOW!!!!!

Nice! really nice!

Now i feel much better I will try it...

What gross or caliber is the cable...?

I don't have cable of this and i need to buy some.

OH yes marlboro cigs I smoke that s**t too jeje when i work on this kind of things! and everytime btw.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Mnemonique:
Thanks,

lingaw kaayo ko ani pag mod, kay na short namatay ang ba for 3-4 hours, d mo on ang ba :(( may gani kay gepakuratan nako ang battery ni dagan og balik. nyahehee

:)

I'll be posting out points on how NOT to do it and how to do it right and safe, to help others avoid what I've gone through. :)

cable = UTP = LAN Cable :)

I'll be posting the other version I've made.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] snake_pliskin:
kasuway sad ko ana do! abi nako sung-go naa ako mga battey kay ang duha gyud. maayo gani false alarm hehehe...

good for you your using genuine bl-5c, unlike mine :D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] red_hanks:
Great job mnemonique :) I am modding another BA battery that was given to me by my friend...

modding is in...buying is out..lol:D

oh man..you guys are talking in cebuano..I wanna learn cebuano too:)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] ebautista:
Thank kababayan

Thanks man, by the way, please put the instructions and the do's and dont's in the wiki page. Mabuhay Pilipinas!!!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Mnemonique:
Was amused doing the mod, because I accidentally short the BA Battery Circuit and when I've tried to test it on BA (with original batt/s) the device just won't switch ON, I've just surprise the battery and shocken it a bit, and it works 3-4 hours later

What did I do for 3-4 hours? Slamming the door, burnt the blue small plier (refer to pics) and did cursed myself too. :)

sorry for the delayed documentation/side note, currently working on Titanium Weather, see screenshot at xplode's thread on R2
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] motisu:
I also did a rejuvination job on an old battery. I get the proper voltage at the terminals, but I can't get the clip to close and hold the battery in place(too thick) and because the clip doesn't close, the BA won't turn on. I know the circuit is good because when I take the 2 5C's out and just have the electrical connection, the clip closes and it turns on. Any ideas of how to get the 5C's on a "diet"?

(So close and yet so far...):confused::(
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] + Que PPC:
Thanks!

Well Mnemonique i will wait to your don't do this tuto jajajaj i don't want to fried my BA jajajaj even if it wakes up again in 3 or 4 hours i dont want to hurt anybody on 3 hours... jejee :p

As the titaniun .... thanks for that i saw you on Prophet askin this good luck men keep the good work.

@motisu

it seems to be batt exceeds charge thats why your batt inflam a little...

nothing to be about this just buy another batt.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Mnemonique:
pic updated, also added notes. :)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] arkduke:
I'll try this one out!

I'm gonna give this a shot! How much does a Nokia BL-5C battery costs nowadays? Any ideas?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] motisu:
no this is not the case. These are new batteries that have only been charged in the actual phone. It seems that there are 2 versions of the 5C battery, 1 is as is shown in the pictures with the plastic frame all around, and 1 with only plsatic on top and on bottom, which is what I have. This 2nd type seems to be a bit thicker so the back cover will not close with them inside.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] + Que PPC:
oh yeah you are right

I red something like that... the BL-5C A and the BL-5C normal

one a little thin and the other one a little hughe :o

sad... so sad...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] motisu:
Again, sorry to correct you but these are NOT 5C A batteries, they are labeled BL-5C. They just aren't the same in size. I did notice from all the pictures posted here that the "good" 5C's are all made in Hungary, while all the "fat" 5C's that I have are made in China. The cells inside the Chinese 5C's are all Panasonic cells.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] + Que PPC:
Oh GOD!?

so we need to take care of this! thanks men!!! when i want to buy that cells i will to ask for the dimentions... could you be able to post the dimentions? or the dimensions are insignificant to ask for at ebay....?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] red_hanks:
this thread should be a sticky! :)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] J0NiK:
It seems I kill battery

BA can't boot

battery shows 3.5V and then fall in 1 sec to 3.2V

both bl-5c voltage 3.8V

seems battery controller is dead
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] JFLB:
Many differences from batt to batt

Hi guys,

I'd like to congrat you for such a good job. I was "starving" for such possibility :D

I see only few problems...I started disassembling the 5C batts and the first difference I saw is that, on the opposit as our colleague said on quote, the (-) is not metal core in my case but the (+) is:eek:

Second difference is that there is NO plastic frame on my batts (both are BL-5C but one was made in China and the other was made in Brazil).

Third difference is the capacity: If you google BL-5C you will find some sites saying 850mAh, others 1000mAh and yet others saying 1020mAh. Which is correct? In the worst case we would still have more power (1700mAh) than the original (1490mAh).

One question: after connecting the 5C batts in parallel, I should connect (+) and (-) resultants to the golden terminals of the original batt directly or to the internal control circuit of it (the small, green, full of components, PWB on the first photos)?:confused:

Edit: Sorry, I've found the answer on post #6.:)

Many thanks .:)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] motisu:
This is an exact description of the 5C batteries that I had. If you have the same (bad) luck that I had, you will not be able to use these batteries even when you reverse the contacts, as they are too thick for the battery cover to close.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] JFLB:
URGENT - WATCH OUT!!! I think I killed my BA

Hi guys,

I have some sad news. After finishing assembling the new bat, I tried to install to see what happens and...nothing. It doesn't even show any life signals.

As I stated on my latest post, the external metal core is (+) so, when I tried to put the new batt in place it short circuited qith the two golden contacts which are near the data connector and are internally grounded:mad:

I guess I realized that too late:(

So if you're trying this mod, don't forget to insulate the metal body of the "monster" batt.

If somebody had a similar problem and could get the BA back to work please let me know...:o
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] red_hanks:
Can you post some pictures on those metal core that you are talking about?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] snake_pliskin:
i got the same problem. can anybody here assist? red_hanks perhaps?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] red_hanks:
can you take pictures of your mod batt?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] JFLB:
PICS

Hi Red Hanks,

Here are the pics. When I tried to close, I forgot to verify the polarity and short circuited (+) from batt body to (-) of the golden contacts. My BA is not working from that on:(

Also I have thickness problems as Motisu mentioned.

If my BA comes back to life, I guess I will try another batts from other brands, since the construction of them is technically the same.

Good luck guys and Watch out!:o
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] + Que PPC:
So we need the source

ok seems to this gone to very bad troubles...

Like short circuits and many more... Batt dimension... etc etc...

Why you all that can mod perfectly... provide the resources from where to buy batts? and a detailed tutorial.... i mean.... when we got the batts and dissassembly those... the polarity comes on the label and thane

!!! OMG !!! i didnt saw the polarity! and a fool!....

So make this more standard....
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] red_hanks:
Ok...

You said...

Did you put back the silver metal cover of the battery before you tried it again after you modded it?

and you said...

What "external metal core"?

How come you know the modded battery short-circuited your BA?

The two golden contacts? You mean the two at the bottom? Internally grounded?

Ok man like this, I don't think our BA will get short circuited for a small voltage like that. If you put the modded battery without the silver metal plate/cover on, BA won't really turn on.

Where is the small board that connects the two batteries?

Don't worry I think your BA isn't dead yet. If ever you really short circuited your BA, you only fried the...hmmmm, what do you called this...fuze or hmmmm I forgot, if ever you tried to use a charger with voltage higher than it can take that fuze will be fried thus your BA will not turn on...am I making it clear? (sorry man..I'm a lil' bit drunk, it's friday night..beer night..oww its saturday already 2:25am) Oww man, I am really sorry can't say what's really in my mind :D. I will try to explain more tomorrow, I mean later when I woke up, try to use a different BA battery...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] + Que PPC:
hey you really use the 1.5

jejeje why you dont invite me? :p

The draw is amazing men thats why im talkin about?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] red_hanks:
I'm still up man...sending email to my Mom...errr..*hic* lol :D I usually go out together with my friends every friday night and saturday night. You know time to relax, to unwind from 5 days of hard work. We've been talking awhile ago and I have a friend who's half mexican and half filipino and I told them about you man. How I wish that XDA-dev grandeyeball *hic* hehehe party will happen so I can get to know you in person and so we can drink beers until we surrender. Cheers to you my friend, my amigo, kaibigan ko...need to go in bed now...feel *hic* so dizzzy...*hic* *hic* *hic* hehehe :D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] ebautista:
The trick is so easy. I don't have background in electronics, but I was able to do this. I am using a fat version(CHINA) of BL-5C (How i wished i got the HUNGARY version). But anyway, it still worked.

I am just curious. Since i have set up the battery, i wasn't able to try 1 battery if it still work. And that is related to my questions. Will BA still run using single BL-5C battery? Also, how will i know if one battery is dead? Will BA still boot if one battery is dead? And if it will, how long will the battery last before charging it again.

I have problem regarding these questions. Even though I am using mod battery, my battery doesn't last longer than my original BA battery. Can someone answer this? :)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] JFLB:
GOOD NEWS!!!

Hi guys,

I have a good news for you...the short circuit I've mentioned did NOT kill my BA at all. I just had to buy a new original batt because the energy controller from the previous batt (the small green PWB board, full of SMD components) went dead after the short circuit.

@ Red Hanks

Man, try to get sober:D lol. Anyway, I thought I was clear on the explanation and the photos, but I think that was not the case.:p

It was my distraction not to insulate the exposed metal of the modded batt, so, if you look at the pics you'll see where the short happened. The point where it happened is on the two golden contacts you asked about. It changed the behavior of the energy controller circuit board, which all, I mean ALL Lithium-ion batts have inside.

Regarding 3.7V being such small voltage to damage a mobile phone, do not fool yourself. If applied to wrong parts of the phone you might "burn" some components which are not used to receive 3,7V on the wrong direction (reverse poles - mostly during a short circuit).

On my pics, you are not able to see the energy controller board because I didn't take it off. I just connected the 5C to the wiring where the original panasonic cells where connected.

Another point is that with the modded batt it's not possible to fit it into batt compartment normally like an original batt. It just doesn't closes the clip. That's why I've mentioned on my last post that I would try some other batt suppliers instead of Nokia.

Well, I guess that's it. I wish good luck to all of you who are willing to modd your batts and hope it works;). I will only try again when this new one I've bought gets wrecked:D

Bye
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] red_hanks:
Great! I'm glad you resolved your problem....now go and flashed the newest ROM from sun_dream build21189...cheers man:D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] JFLB:
Sure!

Thanks.

About the ROM you've mentioned, is that the one on your sig? is it up and running good? is it worth to give a shot?:D

Now I'm using WM 6.1 20758 from sun_dream as well...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] red_hanks:
It's the best ROM at this time :)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] + Que PPC:
Sh$$t i only saw china made batts!!!!

this sunday i went to some Batt providers and all of them has china batt for nokia bl5c damn where can I get the original non china made....

anybody has a provider?

wich is the other country for the thin batts?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] red_hanks:
there are some made in taiwan, finland and mostly china...MASS PRODUCTION!!!:D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Mnemonique:
My sister is coming over to the states this coming Friday, anyone who would like to have original nokia batteries (thin ones).

PM me so I can have it hand-carried with her.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] ebautista:
how much it cost per piece?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] obingkong:
bisaya

abi ninyo kamo lang bisaya ha... hehehhe...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] red_hanks:
Anu sabi mu? Hindi ko naman maintindihan yan...Can't understand what you've just said!:D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Mnemonique:
translated:

kala nyo kayo lang bisaya dito ha. (tagalog)

and you thought you are the only cebuano around here... (english)

:D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] + Que PPC:
¿?

COME ON GUYS.....

Kutta kutta bisha seto iroshima sanosuke.... getto :D

Translate:

This is amazing you dont follow your own rules... translate :D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] imatrix:
well u guys have fun with modding, my battery just gave up on me, I will get a new one tomorrow.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] snake_pliskin:
same thing here. i am now waiting for my order from proporta.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] xykosomatik:
wow what a timely post! or a timely read hehehe since i was just planning to use airsoft lipoly batts to replace my first battery... now why didn't think of using nokia batts?!? thanks for the great idea! this should be a sticky and a wiki.

OT: daghana sa bisaya diri oi hehehehe
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] loryshoe:
please someone give the detail pic about finding the port positiv and negativ in naked bl-5c nokia after disamble.

im stuck in finding bat -+ port ?

please gime me a detail pic, so ican continue my operation, my ba now dying waiting the bat....hiks2,,,,,,,,,,
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Measure the voltage across with a volt meter. If you have a positive reading, that means that your red lead will be on the positive side. If you get a negative reading, that means that you have the red lead on the negative.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] sri wahono:
new bios

how i can get the new bios for BA like at the picture??award bios with processor 3,2 ghz, memory 512... thanks
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Read the thread and you will soon realize that it is only a bootsplash image. Just make a png image named welcomehead.96.png that is 240 x 320 and replace it in the \windows folder. You will have to do this via ActiveSync since you will not be able to do it directly in the BA.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] sri wahono:
ok thanks a lot for the informations... I'll try latter..
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] carred66:
please help

Hi: could anybody look my problem?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=507214

thanks
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] arzakem:
tried changing my dying battery pairs with Nokia bl-5c ones and I just found out Chinese made batts that are Class A imitations are a little bit bigger in breadth to fit in my original battery casing. I bought a new set of Battery from ebay and found out that there are actually 3 types of batteries for XDA IIs with different Amperages. And with the differences between the amperages are the sizes. Which means that when you are using the original 1400 batteries then it would be thinner compared to newer batt types designed with larger containments.

My point is, as long as there is space enough with the type of battery casing you have, you can use any other batt e.g. Motorola, etc. that will suffice to your needs. I just found out that BL-4C batteries of Nokia are thinner and fits my original casing. Suits me, I just modded it and true to being "Class A" imitations, it lasts about 45 minutes longer than my original dying batteries. This is good since Im still waiting for my battery purchase to come.

:eek: A word of advice though to all battery modders, be careful when handling the nokia batteries as shorting it can cause you bad injuries. I mean, shorting it gets it to burn and maybe explode. Be sure to secure the distances between the two poles. The negative pole is the BODY of the battery itself (in my case, poled at the bottom) and the positive pole is the top connector.

You must peel off the aluminum covering CLEANLY as it can also cause the shorting of the poles. Since peeling off entirely the aluminum at the sides is almost impossible since it sticks deep, you can either insulate the sides or insulate your new modded batteries at the sides to avoid contact with the aluminum leftovers.

Thanks for the great modding suggestions from within this site. Im new to the PDA arena, I just come from Motorola modding myself and is acquainting myself with these. . :cool:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] mrQer:
WOW Great work for the old device as IIs

I plan to buy new battery, but your idea we found the better way

Thanks.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] robbiethree:
bl-5c don't fit in ph20 model battery of ba, thus i done a different thing on ph20 and attached 2pcs bl-4 nokia battery., and i say it works..
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] kvnxp:
I changed my battery, with 2 batteries of SonyEriccson 1400 ma, now I have 2400 ma. XD no have photo XD

sorry for my english XD . :p
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
If anything, you can always try to fit 4 bl-5cs on an extended battery pack ;) I think that motisu had tried something like that.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] motisu:
no, I never tried 4 cells. I couldn't even get the 2 cell mod to work because I could only get the chinese bl-5c batts and these were all too thick for the case to close, so I just gave up.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Oh, yeah... I remember now. But one of us was trying the 4 cells, was it Red Hanks, maybe?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] servo_veyron:
can someone please re-upload the photos...coz most of them are dead link...

i'm intend to mod my almost dead BA battery... :D

thx.