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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] quicksite:
Perhaps I am wrong about this, but I was pretty sure that simo's theme packages were all VGA, with no QVGA choices (he no longer has a QVGA phone, so that's understandable).

Thus I have had to do it all manually. It's actually very time consuming to be honest. It took me 3 hours tonight just to fill up a page with icons, not even linked yet to apps, then to set the size relationships of #s of icons per rowm with font spacing, and font colors, then onto home page, setting all those by trial and error. I'm still baffled by the calendar objects... I can choose 3,4,5,6 items across... yet I cannot see where to control the # of calendar date objects. I also don't like the line spacing when I tried 3 items on row 1 and 3 items on row 2.

Can't chnage the color of the background area behind the clock.

I am sure all of this is coming... I am just finally getting a chnace to try iFonz 2, and in terms of "fit & finish", from my UI background point of view, not as polished as iFonz 1.... I can imagine simo is anticipating WindowsMobile 7 with its new bottom bar layout, with start icon in center of the bottom... so I can see why he's made certain changes.

I am also guessing that the primary value of the major rewrites have been speed performance.

Still, after 3 hours tonight just to get a configuration, now I have to go select each one, map it to an app, get the parameters right, etc. That's a lot of work compared to the ease of iFonz 1.

But I can see that once I do get it set up, and when it's mostly modifying and adding an app, or moving one around, it will be great. :confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ssj5trunks:
Ok quicksite, you take 3 hours to set iFonz, but now when you add a new application you dont do anything, is normal that first time you configure all settings.

Bye

P.S.

Now i look Android and i prefer it's UI :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rharmon76:
This is why I told him that he needs to drop the iFonz2 and rework the iFonz 1 version. The iFonz 1 could be manipulated easy. He needs to drop the settings.dat and go back to the "theme save" bugt incorperate the way you can add icons in v2 with the ease of moving icons in v1. I hate to say it but with the "home" page and the way v2 operates on my device I have to stay with v1. It just works better.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ssj5trunks:
Ok i've a mystical vision, and if i correct ifonz 1 and add all the features of 2, and abandon the second version?

Wait yours answers!

I create a Poll to decide which version peoples prefer!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] duesi64:
Thats it, the speed of ifonz2 in ifonz1, that would be great. I love your progs.

But by the way, androit is a very nice software.... Hold on!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 12gage:
I didn't know you could do that, very useful info thank you. Also anytime I try to make an icon for a internet shortcut iFonz crashes, is this common or is there a certain way to do it?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ssj5trunks:
I have 1 icon that go to GMail, in file field i set the url: http://mail.google.com and it go.

If you use "&" character XML crash.

Bye
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 12gage:
Thank you, I tried making an icon for the browser that I wanted to launch the site, and in the argument field I put the internet address. Is there a way to set the browser that you would like to use per site. IE: hulu.com open with Skyfire, Orb open with IE...etc
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sixpaxs:
Try this, make the link the browser of choice *.exe or *.lnk file and put the site in the arguement portion. For example:

<Icon Order="13" Name="Hulu" Image="\My Storage\iFonz\Icons\hulu.png" Link="\Windows\Program Files\SkyFire.exe" LinkArgs="http://hulu.com/" OpenAnimation="False" />

<Icon Order="14" Name="Orb" Image="\My Storage\iFonz\Icons\Orb.png" Link="\Windows\IE.lnk" LinkArgs="http://orb.com/" OpenAnimation="False" />
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbonzz:
Yes! Definately yes! (that's what i expected iFonz 2 was: ifonz1 + speed + no more out of memory) :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] greywolf1965:
startup
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] quicksite:
JUST A REMINDER re available ICON SETS (QVGA and VGA)

Many of you have long ago seen these... It's the "Realized" icon set for use with iFonz and other app launchers. The term originated when somebody took the flat style of most icons and attempted to create depth, as in buttons that appear to lay above the surface...

Here's an idea of what they look like:

and here's the link to get them.

An XDA member continues to make them, by request... so almost anything is possible if you like the style.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] quicksite:
It can be installed on either. It throws people off because it's kind of non-standard. ssj5trunks did away with cab packages during iFonz 1, and ever since, when you unzip you get a Folder that includes the .EXE file for iFonz app, and another .EXE for the Configurator, and various other files.

You can place this anywhere, which is confusing because most apps get installed into the programs folder on either the device or storage card. This is a standalone app.

Which means that in order to make iFonz show up on a list of programs on your phone, you'll need to make a shortcut to the .exe file, and place it into the windows START MENU folder. Then it can be assigned to hard-buttons on your phone, or added to things like the Today screen, or HTC Home. But since the whole idea to iFonz is to have it replace all those methods of navigating around your phone, and instead have you click icons for everything, there is an option to have ifonz auto-load with windows, which then enables you to just arrive at the ifonz homepage or apps page.

ICONS: can be png, bmp, i'm not sure about jpg and gif.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rharmon76:
What would be nice is to do an "add "X" number of pages" just like v1 which willleave the "add" icons in the page. When you press and hold the "add" icon it will give you options on what you want to do with it. One of the options should be to choose a program for the icon to become like in iFonz2 it gives you a list of the programs to choose from (easier then the old file explorer way) then you can click and hold back on that icon and the menu will let you tweek the icon, set perammiters ect. Also please get rid of the settings.dat file. Make it invisable and do a save file like v1 again. Some people are fine with the settings.dat page and don't mind changing things in it, but for the rest i suspect either they don't care for it or could live without it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thekiller99:
Problem

i'm having a program with this program

i got it working, but the icon are so.....big

how can i make it smaller

and can someone post the setting for the program to me plz

thx
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] teacher1960:
I've lost my soul(My pdaphone)

My beautiful Htc Advantage x7510 has gone missing on a trip to Berlin.It doesn't seem to be covered by my insurance either. Can't afford to replace it right now. So I have not been active last weeks on the forum. If anybody hears of a real bargain for a big screen pda please tell me about it.

To Quicksite you wrote:

The primary shortcomings of iFonz 1 was:

(a) lack of windows taskbar

(b) I think it used more memory than iFonz 2.

(c) no "image preview" of icons when you were navigating thru the file directories.

I have to admit that I like Ifonz2 even better than Ifonz1, but my judgement might be coloured by the fact that Ifonz1 was very nearly completely unuseable on my phone because it was so very, very slow, whereas Ifonz2 was perfectly fine when you swiped from screen to screen. I used home screen + 6 more screens as you can see on page 21 of this thread and Ifonz2 never complained that it was out of memory or slowed down. I use a black background with my icons not transparancies.

If anybody needs an "squarestyle" icon for an app that is not covered by the icons I have sent already on page 21, just ask and I'll see what I can do
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 12gage:
Is there anyway to import any of the active home buttons to the program pages? I'd like to use put my icons on my first programs page if I could. Probably a stupid question but thanks in advance.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] quicksite:
Oh man, so sorry to hear. You might post to one of the General Forums here. There are surely people who track all avail options for phones & pricing -- and between XDA, smartphonejunkies, PPCgeeks (and others), I am certain you would get a rec on the best buy for your current downscaled need.

Such a drag, so i feel for you. :(

Probably so. When I "zoom out" for the bigger picture, there are 2 phases: Set-up, getting it right -- then using the phone daily.

I am almost done setting up the programs grid & icons, still have to go assign all my apps, but I'm closer. And then I can tell, yes, it will be much faster, have the windows taskbar integration, and be finger-friendly. So it's just a phase 1 / phase 2 issue.

For many, iFonz phase 1 (setup) was far easier. Pretty much everyone says iFonz 2 is much faster and reliable. At the end of the day, simo chose his priorities correctly -- ensuring the USAGE is fast.

Let's see... let me put on my Magician's thinking hat...

At this moment, simo is....

(a) in argument with girlfriend for spending too much time on iFonz and not her

(b) enjoying weekend with girlfriend and blowing off ifonz til next week...

(c) back in his "burrowing" mode -- where he buries self underground, no contact for a month, solving all problems in his head, re-writing, then one day pops up to say, minimally:

I would like to set up a betting pool on this, proceeds go to simo via donations... heh heh...

Thank you. Yes, for those new to iFonz, the whole transparency issue is quite confusing. What am I saying, for people like me who have used for 2 years, the transparency issue is confusing -- with that magenta color used for masking or something.... So, teacher, thanks for making this offer to us all.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ssj5trunks:
I read all days yours posts, i'm not disappeared but with my work and small spare time i dont have enough time to work on iFonz.

I thinking what i can do to iFonz 2 to set equal to iFonz 1, the only way is to rewrite engine of creation pages and icons and add a setup icon page directly in the program and not with a menu.

I do some test to view which way is the best.

Bye
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] teacher1960:
Thank you for sympathetic words I'm quite devastated at the moment, I lost many family pictures, important docs and so on.

I haven't even been able to try out the 0.3.0 version and man do my hands itch to install it and tweak it.

Heh, heh, I think you are spot on

When Simo talked about a poll to measure what people liked best, I thought he was being ironic, but to my surprise I came across this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=3642658

Did you see it?

well I've left my vote for Ifonz2, I was sceptical when I saw it at first, but it grows on you. I'm now convinced that Ifonz2 is far superior to Ifonz1.

I hope as many as possible will vote for Ifonz2
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] quicksite:
Oh Simo - come on man, I was just kidding you! I don't think for one moment like you must think I meant. I was kidding because I know you are very busy -- and I always like the "Bye" signoff :D

But I'm getting it to work and it seems like it's going to be very fast :) thank you
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] quicksite:
I wonder how many people have NOT lost a phone. I rigged a wrist strap contraption on mine, like on a point & shoot camera, because i'd lost 1 in past 4 years, and dropped another one.

I hope you can get something workable. I know HTC/T-Mobile have reintroduced a new MDA -- actually in July, I just checked. Take a look at this page from the database:

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdalist&list=pocket_pc

But I am guessing maybe you want to buy a used one, right? Wouldn't someone who is itching to upgrade be anxious to sell a prior one -- which could serve as an interim. But as for irreplaceable photos & docs... no words help.

Nope. Not until just now. .... Aye caramba! --- That is a totally misguided poll -- because the issues are NOT the totality of one platform vs the other. It's "setup method" in iFonz 1 vs "setup method" in iFonz 2. Operationally -- primarily tapping icons that open apps, and finger sliding pages to get to other apps -- I doubt people are disappointed by the superior speed and flow of iFonz 2, once it is set up.

So I will not even vote unless there is a proper poll that is reasonable. It's like saying who's better: U2 during Zooropa tour, or U2 during Elevation tour. And I am not joking. But at minimum, I hope Simo will EDIT THIS THREAD TITLE to indicate there is a poll. Otherwise, who would know other than people who hang out here all day & night. I'm triggered by email notification of thread replies.

Bye.
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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Prevost:
transparent

Im sure this is already being addressed in the next release or w/e, but can we have the bug tht allows you to use "transparent" icons (a white border is round them) instead of having to use the "magic pink". Its alot more convenient and means that people can use pre-made iphone icons without having to modify them - or even having to find special icon packs...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ssj5trunks:
The problem is the color, i teach all how it work:

I get the pixel x=0, y=0 (the first) of image and use it for transparent color.

If in icon you use the same color of 0,0 pixel the image will be transparent if this color is in it.

If you use antialias in the border the program consider only 1 color to do transparency and not all blend of this color.

Bye
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] greywolf1965:
Thank you very much. I was able to get iFonz2 up and running.

**ssj5trunks, great job!

It is a great program and I look forward to future releases. I am currently using it on a HTC Tilt with Duffy's Series rom, which one I do not know. I have only had this phone for 2 weeks. So, I am pretty green when it comes to Windows mobile phones. A previous version of ifonz 0.9.9. was on the phone when I got it. Thank you!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Inkech:
Great

Great Job. Thanks a lot. Version 1 works great with Samsung i900
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] johnhedge:
Hi list,

When I try and install iFonze2 I get:

An unexpected error has occurred in iFonze2.exe

Select Quit and then restart this program or select Details for more info.

File or assembly name 'iFonze2Library, Version=0.3.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null', or one of its dependencies was not found.

at .....

at.....

etc.

I'm using WM6.1 on a Touch HD

Any help most welcome

TIA

John
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] vmmiles:
Do You Have .NET CF 3.5 installed

johnhedge, iFonz requires .NET CF 3.5 to be installed on your phone first. Do you have it installed?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] GreenOmnia:
iFonz is only an interface program, so if I uninstal it, I can use windows mobile as I did before, right?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] quicksite:
That's correct.

But just so you know, it's even written as a standalone app, that is not installed into windows directories. The beauty is: ifonz "unzips" on your phone as simply a FOLDER .. and inside it is the app, the configuration tool, etc.

In other words, you can simply "check off" in its settings to NOT start up with windows, and it will forever be silent and never get in your way if you choose to not use it.

So you really can swap off as often as you like between using windows only, windows + ifonz ... or just return to using windows only.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] quicksite:
QVGA "ROTATE" question: Does anyone else get phone freezing after rotating to landsca

I'm sure this was covered way way above in this thread, but let me ask anyway:

95% of the time I use iFonz in its QVGA standard vertical arrangement, and all is well.

In the times when I have clicked a rotate softkey, my display draws part of the new rotated layout, but keeps part of the vertical layout as well, freezing up the taskbar, and freezing up the whole display. "Re-rotating" it back by trying to open and shut the flip out keyboard (on my Wing), has no effect. It's just frozen and I need to reset.

Is this common?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wilson.meier:
QVGA not working properly

Hi,

first - thanks for that app.

Info: i'm a HTC Herlad Owner.

I used ifonz in the past and liked it, so i decided to test ifonz2.

It's up and running but the qvga theme doesn't work as expected.

On the homescreen the buttons are extremly large and when switching in landscape mode, half of the screen remains in portrait mode.

And i encountered problems if i try to move apps or contacts from one page to another.

Moved Contact from page 2 to 1 and the apps/contacts that should now go on page 2 (cause page 1 is full) disappeared completely.

Greets Wilson
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] quicksite:
Here's the deal. The app author, ssj5trunks, is now in "pause & evaluate mode" because he's gotten lots of feedback comparing iFonz1 to iFonz2.

All of the issues you are writing about are common "complaints". He is going to be re-writing the app, and he's got a few "poll" threads in this whole forum section you could check out.

However, I have learned, very patiently (!), to get version 2 to work well on my WING/Herald ... I will perhaps tomorrow post a video.

One thing I have now learned is: DON"T TRY to invoke landscape mode, beccause it WILL freeze up.

Also: I recommend that, for now, you SKIP the home page, and set your settings to start in "programs" mode. You CAN adjust the size of those icons, by looking in the Configurator for "Home Buttons". But trust me, just skip it for now if you want to make it usable for the moment.

There are many pros and cons of both versions, and simo is digesting now which chnages he wants to make based on some user feedback.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] teacher1960:
Soul found!!

I have found my beautiful htc x7510 all intact with beautiful Ifonz2 on it.

To Quicksite:

Thank you so much man for being helpful and encouraging, I really needed it I was so depressed about it. Like you said I was looking around for some really cheap interim model, but I was very depressed about it.

I was always kind of nuts about mobiles and I can't see myself with a smaller screen than 5 inches. I see my phone first and foremost as a mobile computer so the most delicious thing I've seen so far is the 'Toshiba L01 with beautiful 7 inches that's supposed to come the last quarter of this year(pdadb.net)

To Simo/ssj5trunks:

I hope you understand that our (me & quicksite)humour is friendly, we have a lot of respect for your work and we love your software.The 0.30 version is fantastic, I love it!

The only bug I have found is that it crashes big time on my phone if you tick "Show Windows files" in config screen 7.

It seems even quicker than 0.2.0 to go from homescreen to program screens.

Great work!!!!

Sending two pictures of my homescreen. Beautiful!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Prevost:
teacher1960, where did you get your icons from?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] teacher1960:
You find my general icons on page 21 (downloadable) of this thread. The ones I have on my homescreen are specially adjusted for the homescreen. if you want them adjusted for the homescreen I can put together a homescreen icon package sometime this weekend.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] greywolf1965:
Teacher1960,

I am glad to hear that you found your phone intact.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ssj5trunks:
I'm working on new version. I have rewrited the engine to draw icons in program page, but there is a problem, the speed.

Before i write only a bitmap with all icons per page, now i redraw all icons in screen all time to show a background, ahhh I have added a good thing: the panoramic wallpaper, same of Android.

This is a programming problem, if anyone know a solution can explain it to me.

The big problem is the number of Graphics DrawImage function.

Bye
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] quicksite:
So happy for you.. There must be a story there... I lost a wallet in Prague, filed all police reports immediately, but with stuff like that, it is almost impossible to recover. So, happy for you that however it happened, you got it back ! :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] quicksite:
simo, one impt thing to keep in mind, please, which I noticed after setting up about 50 apps on my phone -- having to select the PATH, then the IMAGE, then type the NAME:

(1) Please try to arrange the screen such that all DATA ENTRY can be done in the top half of the page... because when I use a soft keyboard, like PCM Keyboard for example, it covers up the field I am trying to type into, which requires constant toggling it on, toggling it off, on, off, on, off, etc.

(2) What I also noticed was that when I selected the ADD feature to add a "New Program" to the app/icon list, when I typed in the name field (and the keyboard blocked it each time), that name field was also building its string in that Programs list box at top. Which made me wonder... why can't I just click on "new program" and name it right there, just like in a regular file explorer way?

(3) I am not sure what your message means here, but I hope you are approaching this from a PICK-LIST concept, where all apps on the phone are presented in a pick-list, just like when you select an app to be a shortcut on a TODAY screen, or an HTC Home screen, or an M2D Screen... That list should be auto-populated, and to me, the path to each of those apps should be automatic... One should not have to go hunting down the .exe file or .lnk file. That is nuts, since many apps have solved that issue long time ago.

(4) But, if you continue with your method of using your file explorer to hunt and find the .exe or .lnk file, then please please set as a DEFAULT PATH the Start Menu within Windows directory. The curse of the universe happens whenever one selects the Windows Directory itself, which as you know takes a long long time to populate due to number of items. And give me a way to choose my DEFAULT path starting point, such as 'Start Menu folder", because then I can bypass that Windows directory problem.

(5) re icon assignment, why is it hard to let the app "auto-assign" the icon that comes with the app, that displays in "folderview" and in start menu? It seems to me it is far easier to get started by using those default apps -- because we all recognize them... and that way it would be so fast and easy to initially set up a functioning app launcher page.

THEN it woiuld be so much easier to EDIT and modify the icons you want to chnage from their defaults. Sometimes, for example with SKYFIRE.exe, the default icon is the best possible icon around... yet I can't gain access to it.

These are usability issues. I hope you will consider them. thank you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ssj5trunks:
Hi, i'm working on new version but after days of development, i have a new question.

Anyone hae a good speed improvements after a soft reset of PDA?

In new version i have implemented the Fps rate on screen and after a soft reset with my diamon the new iFonz work at 13/15 fps, after 3 or 4 restart of program it go at 7/8 fps, anyone have any suggestion?

I have a Diamond with last official HTC rom.

Wait some answers from you.

Bye