yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] themachineman:
OK I searched the thread, for A/C, a/c (guessing too short) AND power, read all 20 posts.

When I'm plugged in... This entire program should disable itself correct? If not automatically then surely a switch to shut it off? What am I missing?

Something this obvious must have been discussed many times, but I can't find it. Obviously don't need power saving when charging.

Please direct me to a post or answer... THANKS

Thanks tons for yet another great program chainfire! Couple suggestions:

1. Auto detect & shut off during charging / while on A/C

2. An on / off button to manually do it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gtown:
i have WMlonglife installed and when it disconnects idle data it kills all communication on the phone and then reconnects the signal in order to make calls or receive calls. i dont understand why it does this... its rather annoying as you phone is not able to maintain communication say for a phone call etc while it drops the data. i have it set on 3g AUTO. can someone help me out with this please?

thanks so much :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] eddieyee:
For some reason when I flashed a new NRG rom on my TP2 the other day, my phone came back up in stricly 1x mode. I was not able to switch it back to EVDO, no matter how I configured WMLL.. The only way I was able to get it back to "normal" was to re-flash the radio.

So if you ever get into a bind like this, simply reflash the radio and you should be good. Not sure if there's an easier way around this, but this worked for me.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] finnman69:
after an uninstall I was locked into edge speeds, NO 3G, until i changed the registry entry for band to 4 from 0.

HKLM\Software\OEM\UMTS\BandSelection

Band: 4

TILT2

Band: 4 (0X000004)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] iorecki:
does anyone know if this program is even applicable for people who have flashed over to metro pcs ?

is the 3g kicking in, a phone setting or network setting...?

i ask this since metro pcs doesnt have 3g...would my phone still try to get a 3g signal ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jlflores77:
Thanks a million!!!

I have been waiting a long time for an application to terminate my data connection and save battery life at the same time. Thanks for a great program!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] themachineman:
ISSUES:

first... thanks for the application, great work, however.. if you are new, know this:

1. there is no support at all except if someone else has had the same problem & answers you (it is free..) dont expect any, you wont get it, you wont be dissapointed.

2. 732, 736 & 737 are very important.. read them... this may stick your phone in 1x

3. no a/c auto over ride

4. it either works or doesnt.. if it doesnt... see #2 &5

5. many report a 30 second delay at least to connect to data, usually the application will freeze &/or time out. After which, wmll will finally turn on data. restated: WMLL will switch to 3g (EV on CDMA), but will not establish a data connetion (tower vs arrows icon). this seems to happen after a dely in use of several minutes, causing app time outs, freezing, etc.

Turning on 3G with screen on eases the pain, but doesnt fix the bug.

Uninstalling after a month...

Uninstallation

Before uninstallation, there are two things you should do:

1) Open the Band Switcher application, and switch to "3G (auto)" mode

2) If you have roaming options enabled, make sure you are NOT roaming when uninstalling
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hrockh:
awesome job.. hope to see those bugs fixed when you can

cheers
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] peterpan911:
Active Sync

I can't find a setting for activesync. Therfore I have to sync with the exchangeserver via activesync only with 2G?:(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] omek07:
Chainfire thanks for this app

can i ask you something ???

How i can add applications on the application list ???

It is not possible to manually add or remove applications from the application list - and this is completely unnecessary!

i have read what you had said on the 3 post but i want to add if its possible the igo8 on the application list because i want to connect on the internet for only 1m when i open the igo8

Can you help me ???

Thankssssssssssss
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sibble-comp:
Having issues with one app - Flexmail 4.1

I've got 0.66 installed on an AT&T Tilt 2 with the official fimrware from Aug 2010. My mailclient of preference is flexmail 4.1 from the Webis folks

http://www.pocketinformant.com/products_info.php?p_id=mail

and do noticed some odd behaviour with it and WMLL, basically it's set to have 3g for 15 minutes and then drop to 2g, but it doesn't happen, the phone is normally in edge mode and when I startup FM4.1, it stays in edge mode, the only way to get it to 3g mode mode is to goto the bandswitcher and choose 3g auto even though that's already set as default in the WMLL config.

in a nutshell, once it's dropped back to edge mode, it stays there until I explicitly force it to 3g mode.

When I go into bandswitcher, it shows with 2g highlighted and has always been that way even under other rom's I've tried. I'd be happy to have it set as WMLL Controlled, but that doesn't stick when set.

Basically after an initial manual bandswitch or it switching automatically to 3g after a fresh reboot, it never automatically goes back to 3g for ANY application.

What should I be looking for/at?

Edit 1:

Never mind, I just figured it out, this is an AT&T phone with AT&T rom, I'm with Fido in Canada, so continually getting messages about roaming, once I disabled the "Switch to 2g when roaming", it immediately switched to 3g... yipee!

Any suggestions on how to get rid of the all the roaming messages? I'll be checking the forums in short order.

Edit 2:

Seems like a common issue, this thread refers

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=583227
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thejaredhuang:
I have a similar problem. First, thanks Chainfire, this app is awesome. WMLL isn't detecting my programs that use data though. I'm using some other browsers (UC and Dorothy) but WMLL isn't giving me an option for them.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] totalcmdext:
Feature Request

It will be good feature to be possible when the Application connect with 3G then the WiFi to be deactivated, in order to reduce the battery drain.

Also if it is possible to switch from 3G to 2G when the device is idle without the lock.

In my HD2 i have seen that there is a delay in order to take care of application and need to wait more than 15s in order to clsoe the 3G.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chrismewse:
Just got it working on HTC HD2 runnning most recent firmware. Nice job. Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NYLimited:
Sorry if this has already been answered but my search did not turn up the answer..

Is there a registry key I can save as a .reg file to restore this program's settings after a ROM flash?

[ Added later ] Never mind, I found it! :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MoJo:
What's a key, NY?!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moonstar845:
Using HTC HD2 with Chuckys Rom.

Used this app for about 2 days, i experienced alot of problems. The main one being the battery not charging or charging extremely slow, the other being extreme battery drain and im talking about within 1 hour ill be on low battery.

Good idea, dont know of any other battery saving apps out there for windows mobile.

thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NYLimited:
'Tis the thing that will let me in to my house, silly!

Trying to go home so I can flash a new ROM... :eek:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nagagaya:
hi

very help software possible. but quite often it goes to 2g network my i am using htc hd2
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Commander Bubble:
More apps in the applist!

Ok, so in response to a few people's questions about adding extra applications

YES YOU CAN

to do so you need:

a registry editor (i use PHM on my HD2 and it works fine) i don't have enough posts to put a link here, just search the forums for PHM registry editor and you'll find the one with a link eventually.)

the exact name of the application you want to add settings for (it has to be the filename exactly, including the extension, eg manilla.exe)

once you have this, it is simply a case of creatinga few registry entries.

navigate through the registry to

HKLM\Software\Morose Media\WMLongLife\Applist

when you get here you will see that it is populated by folders with numerical names, starting at 1 and counting up.

select the applist folder, and then create a new key.

name it the next number counting up from what is there (if the highest number you can see is 19, call it 20, if it's 7, call it 8 etc)

inside this new folder (i will refer to it as XX in this post from now on) you need to create some new entries.

they are: (in alphabetical order)

Name | Type | Data

3G | D-WORD | 1 (0X000001) //Does the applicaton get 3G at all.

BACKGROUND_TIMEOUT | D-WORD | 60 (0X00003C) //How long the app should have 3G for before it times out.

DESCRIPTION | STRING | //This one is special. this is the name of the application AS YOU WANT IT TO APPEAR IN WMLL APP LIST. eg, Opera Browser. Wireless Router. etc.

IGNORE_USB | D-WORD | 1 (0X000001) //ignore the usb connection if it is available

IGNORE_WIFI | D-WORD | 0 (0X000000) //ignore the wifi connection if it is available

NAME | STRING | //This one is SPECIAL. It is the FILENAME OF THE APPLICATION YOU WANT TO CONTROL, INCLUDING IT'S EXTENSION. eg, Opera9.exe. etc.

SHOW_IN_CONFIG | D-WORD | 1 (0X000001) This is important. if it is NOT A 1 IT WILL NOT SHOW UP IN THE APP LIST IN WMLL. MAKE SURE IT IS ALWAYS A 1

UNATTENDED_3G | D-WORD | 0 (0X000000) //Can the application have 3G when the screen is off.

NB: these are case sensitive.

incase you aren't aware (I hope you are though!)

1 = Yes

0 = No

when you have entered all of these, close the registry editor and open WMLL. navigate to the apps list and scroll down until you find the app you have just entered. change any of the settings you want in this area, as it is much safer than in the registry.

well i hope that helps some people.

also, if you export the applist folder, and restore it later, you SHOULD be able to backup any settings that WMLL had before a hard reset or data loss, or phone change etc.

NB: i have not tried it myself but it should be perfectly fine.

any questions about this, just leave a reply here.

happy registry editing! (and less gonad cancer!)

cheers to Chainfire for the great app.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Commander Bubble:
A key is a folder in the registry that contains entries you can modify. :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nagagaya:
hi

first of all i like to thank you very much for your great application.

I was using your application in htc hd2.

i am facing the the following problem

1. when screen off. automatically network change to 2g. when screen is on or call in coming. it changes to 2g to 3g network. if any body calls that time. it shows that phone is off mode.

can u please help how to do this

advance thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] alvaro214:
Not working on Omnia II, I have the Gary Crutcher JI1 Lite ROM from modaco.

Does anyone with Omnia II work this program , which ROM installed?

thanx
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] injulia:
Downloading....

many thanks for Chainfire

:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Homer-S:
Hello Chainfire,

is it still under development or did you stop?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] osiedacz:
WMLL w/ Tilt 2 Startup Settings

Hi Chainfire, I have been running WMLL for a couple weeks on my Tilt 2 and I have noticed something odd with the settings. It seems that any time I soft reset my phone, WMLL starts up using your default settings. The only way I can get it to use my settings is to open the settings program and hit OK. Then it seems to pick up my settings and perform the way I wanted.

I have also noticed that if my phone is in 3G mode, I use more batter with WMLL running than I do without it. When my phone switches to 2G mode, I get the same longer life I do if I manuall switch it into 2G mode without WMLL installed. So when it switches, I get the savings you advertise. But if the conditions leave me in 3G, it almost seems that the phone spends a lot more energy monitoring my settings.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] s050399b:
I have install wmlonglife, and I find that my contact in outlook doesn't sync it to the phone; adding a new contact doesn't sync to the phone, any ways around it?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] javhusin3:
Thanks

Thanks for the cool apps
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jbs68:
HTC HD Mini with HVGA Screen resolution

Hello,

I find this software very useful and I wish to use it on my HTC HD Mini in order to optimize the use of the bands 2G and 3G and to optimize the battery lifetime.

First, the installation occurs well and the various screens of configuration adapts very well to HVGA resolution (320x480) :

​

Just one think about the band switch notification... In a future release, if you can make the popup a little bigger because he appear very small on this screen (if it's possible !)

​

Here the adjustments which I adopted :

​

Encountered problems :

Which I do not understand, it is that with the phone starting, the band remains in 3G (auto). Even when the screen turns off before whereas the band is in 3G (auto), this one remains in this mode instead to switch in 2G after 30 seconds.

If I force the 2G mode with “Band Switcher implementation” and then, returns in mode “WMLongLife controlled”, the band switch well in 3G mode (auto) when I launch an whitelist app.

In short, with starting the selected mode is always 3G (auto) and when the screen turns off, the band switch not in 2G mode.

Would you have an adjustment or a solution to correct this problem?

Thank you by advance.

Cordially, JBS68
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nagagaya:
hi

thanks for your application. when we will get final application.

if possible seperate cab for 3g network it would be better. because when it switch over the 2g to 3g when any incoming call it goes cut off.

thanks

R.Nagarajan
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nurps:
Could you add an option like "switch to 2g after #min of standby"?

That would be usefull for me..since i want to be able to be called when im using the internet..and i use it a lot. But logically i dont use date when the device is in standby..so thats the point i see the most use in disableling 3g.

Edit: Ok i should have read more..the program allready does that.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] noustor:
wmlonglife

Hello,

is : wmlonglife running with HTC Touch2 T3333?

Thank you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jbs68:
No idea about this..?

Regards, JBS68
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] eqzgkxokwa:
I'm having the same problem, and just with Opera. Everything else works without delay; email and contacts sync without problem. I could really use help on this too.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] natronffl:
I found that if you set up Opera to connect at 2g then there is little to no delay. For me it's worth surfing at 2g speeds.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] palmerfr:
Hello,

On my Treo Pro,it works partially.

It work from 2g to 3g (got the Opera error while trying to access the page while switching) but doesn't work from 3g to 2g.

The phone symbol stays on "searching network", and when the phone goes idle and I try to wake it up (after 15 minutes), it hangs and I have to reboot by taking battery off.

Anyway, thanks for this good idea.

palmer
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Manchurian:
Chainfire,

I tested WMLongLife v0.2 on my i780 for a couple of minutes now and it works very well for me (as far as I can see). The sync-options of my hotmailaccount are set 'as items arrive', which it does nicely via GPRS and as soon as I start Google Maps it switches to 3G, very impressive!

One request (no biggie); I know you are turning the program into a service, but for the time being; when I exit the .exe I have to manually set the band selection back to automatic in order to be able to use 3G. Maybe you can add this function in the .exe (I don't know if you are planning to release more exe's in the future). Again, this is not very crucial, it's just that I can see some people may overlook this and blame the program for ruining their internet.

I don't have Opera Mobile (Opera Mini FTW!:p) or WMwifirouter to test, so no feedback on that..

Very nice program and I hope to see this evolve in the battery-saving application we i780 users need!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] noellenchris:
Man...I thought this APP would generate more traffic. I guess people don't realize the bang for your buck in the potential of this thing! Over the years it seems like there is at least 1 new post a week asking about how to extend the battery life... This APP can make a huge impact to a 3G /HSPDA device if your using any kind of push mail / weather update / or any other program that uses the internet in the background and will use 3G by default. Once this APP works seamlessly , it will conserve lot's of battery.

Anyhow thanks Chainfire.... (did you find your cables for the USB drivers yet) I have to run to the store and find an adabpter....:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] skadamat:
How to use?

Umm. I'm not a noob or nething, i've flashed so many roms and tried out apps before

But i simply do not know how to test out/ try this app. Its just an exe? DO i just click the exe for the HTC phone (MSM) and ...then whaT?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nir36:
after running the exe you should notice that your phone switches to 2G when it goes to sleep (after a minute or so if i'm not mistaken), and that it goes to 3G when you use Opera/WMWifiRouter/...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nurkamol:
Thanks for GREAT job

Thanks man, in my HTC Hermes works for 100%. :)

:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chanur_000:
Great Job!!!

Works fine on Omnia EU
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mandragore:
Works fine on my DIAM100, well done! I'm keeping an eye on this.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Baxxx:
Hi!!

First: Great Stuff!!! Works on my Xperia X1 from the start.

Some comments on the (non service version):

- 2G mode is activated immediately after starting.

- Program runs more than one time at once (if started twice, two instances are doing the work - it doesnt crash bytheway, they both check the status)

- maybe a check if the program is already started would be possible, combined with starting twice quits the program and restores the settings (3G Auto Mode)

- checking interval seems to be fixed. 5 seconds seems to be ok for checking the start of programs, mybe you could slow don checking, if a 3G Program is runnung to lets say 15 seconds (to calm down the program, as quick staring may be required, but not quick stopping)

- How about programs in the Background (minimized Opera). I set the "X" to minimize, not close, so if i do not quit opera, it keeps being detected...

- is there an explanation for the different service types (407, 410, 414)

- what do the status messages L:5 / a:7 mean?

So once again: thanks for that great stuff, ill keep testing ...

Greetings from Austria,

Bax
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Chainfire:
Some of those things will be fixed or no longer apply in the service version. Again this is just a test version, and most of the messages on the screen should not mean anything to you (just me) :)

The checking interval is not what several people here think it is. Actually the check is run whenever a different window is switched to foreground. I did add the 5 second timer to clear the internal caches (several things are cached in memory to make this checking on window switch very very very light, 10 cycles or so). It's also mostly a debug/test thing that it's a few seconds. In a later release this will probably be 60 seconds or maybe even more - who knows it may be 10 or 15 minutes. I'm not completely sure yet how often it needs to be done for correct operation - 'not all that often' doesnt translate well into seconds ;)

L:5 / a:7 means there are 5 apps in the list and 7 apps running, btw. Most of these 7 will be Windows Mobile stuff you don't see, that's why it's higher than you might expect.

I'll have to think about what to do about the minimizing thing. Any bright ideas?

Also note that the next / service release will likely not be until the end of february or the start of march, as I will be away on business matters for a while.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Baxxx:
Hi!

Thanks for your quick reply!

Bright ideas concerning Backgrund Apps? Well - hmm, maybe some ideas, but if they are bright ...

What i could think of would be to monitor not only the number of apps but which one is "active".

switching 3g to 2g could be made depending on "time of inactivity" - e.g. if 3g-app is inactive for 1 minute.

If 3g-app comes back to foreground for a specific period, 3g goes "on" again...

An interesting idea would be to reactivate 3g, if transfer rate is at limit (as i have seen, you log the data traffic). BUT that would result in a substantial lag exactly at the moment the data connection is needed. So - maybe not the best idea...

Bytheway: you wrote something about the difference between your way to change - that it is faster because it doesnt switch of and on the radio. What method is used by the system itself? Because switching between 2g and 3g is normally possible without interrupting a call (just as a handover between 2 cells). Is there any way to activate method of change??

So, that were the "bright" ideas .... ;)

Greetings to Holland,

Bax
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Nightcookie:
Chainfire,

you sure did write a great introduction in the first post! Clear, witty and brilliant, I read it and for sure I lol'd! :D

Keep up the great work!

N.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] noellenchris:
Man....lol....getting itchy waiting for Chainfire's next release...I registered PowerGuard and I'm ready to do some testing to see the difference in battery life.....Thanks Chainfire!

Chris:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Keland44:
chainfre this is a really great concept i really like it i wish i could help you test but i only have a 2g device (HTC Wizard) i wanna see the progress of this because like others have said this is something that could really help windows mobile phones with there battery life issue

my question is would the i780 version work on a samsung blackjack II? if so i could try to help test from that aspect my wife has a blackjack II

but again this is a really great concept and i would definately like to see how programs at xda made into services rather then regular programs
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] justin82:
really brilliant idea!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Chainfire:
It's a coming, but not very fast. Swamped with work I am! :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] corepda:
Great care on your part buddy, :)

Poor we may need 3g to test this app.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jug6ernaut:
lol well if u dont have 3g theres no point in having this app :P
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ptgptg:
Downloaded it. Testing now. Hopefully, will improve battery life. Mine is terrible. down to 50% in 3 hours when out of the office. Is there a battery meter that can test and provide reliable results rather than anecdotal evidence?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Chainfire:
Will also be made eventually :) (its actually higher on my todo list than the service version, as I want some hard data on improvement)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ptgptg:
Well, I installed this yesterday afternoon. Left the office around 10PM last night with battery at 100%. Very little use (15 mins of games and video and push email once an hour) through the night and I had 90% of my battery this morning. Much better than past life. Will give it a workout today out of the office and see how it holds up.

A big thank you to chainfire for this. So far so good.

Not a techie, but if I can help at all, please let me know.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Chainfire:
What would you have expected the level to be normally?

Thanks for the info :)