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[XPERIA X1 General] Sfkn2:
Exactly. My internet gets "put on hold" for the duration of the phone call.
[XPERIA X1 General] anaadoul:
I face this when i have a GPRS/EDGE coverage, but when connected to 3G/3.5G/H it's ok, i can make both without problems
[XPERIA X1 General] johnchan78:
I would like to expand this...

anaadoul is correct. In fact, regular GPRS cannot send data simultaneously as the voice call.

EDGE can SOMETIMES do so if the carrier's tower/cell supports this, but not all do, so while EDGE provides faster data connection, you may or may NOT get simultaneous data and voice. This is my experience at least. I think EDGE is always supposed to support simultaneous voice/data but my experience shows otherwise.

This is one of the primary reasons I am using a 3G network and 3G phone now. 3.5G/H while providing faster data, have no difference in regards to simultaneous voice data, but do use more power/battery so if I know I'm going to be out a long, long time, I turn H/3.5G off.

For me, it is VERY important I can use data and voice at the same time. I have my phone checking mail every 10 minutes, and it takes about 10-30 seconds to successfully check mail, so that means every 10 minutes, if an incoming call arrives, it'll go straight to voicemail and I miss it. That is not acceptable.

Plus, if I receive a business call, I can check mail, open up websites, etc. WHILE i am on the call. You have no idea how useful that is.
[XPERIA X1 General] anaadoul:
allow me to agree/disagree with you on some points.

imo, Edge doesn't support simultaneous call/data, except some devices that have some dual GSM radio as both operate on the same radio device level.

afaik the technology of 3G+ is different, the voice itself is not being transmitted as GSM signal, it's converted into a something similar to VOIP (that what makes Video Call Happens), a phone call uses one channel for audio transmit, the good thing is that the archetecture of 3G+ is designed to have multiple simultaneous connections to the tower cell, this will allow more transfer bandwidth, while this makes you able to browse and talk at the same time, it also puts more load on the cell (the cell can accept a certain fixed number of connections depending on the location and population of the area) resulting on people getting Network Busy Error!

so the result is a data connection is dropped if the cell is full in order to take a phone call.

what makes 3G+ really fast is that it can open milti channels with the cell, allowing more allocated bandwidth (we all know it reaches up to 7.2mbps).

3G+ consumes LESS power imo than GPRS/EDGE (Data connection only, voice calls consumes more on 3G+) as 3G+ will close all active connections when there is no application transferring (see the H icon disappearing when no application is downloading anything and 3G/3.5G icon is there, once an internet request is made it will go back to H).

so the result i think as follows

GPRS/EDGE : Low battery consumption for voice calls, High for Data & No simultaneous Call & Data.

3G/3.5G/HSDPA : Higher battery consumption for voice calls, Low for Data & Supports simultaneous Call & Data.

btw, i am connected to my Company's exchange server using Microsoft Direct Push. when the connection is G or E, i loose my battery more quicker than 3G/3.5G/H

even i have noticed that 3G+ consumes way less power that WiFi (now my email is synced over the air even in the office so my battery won't die quickly. don't worry i have a huge data plan ;))

please correct me if i'm wrong, all my information above is based on personal experiance

cheers
[XPERIA X1 General] andydrives2fast:
Well, I don't know if this will work for everyone but I fixed my issue. I just called my voicemail and put it on speakerphone in order to keep the voice connection open. Then I tried surfing with Opera a few times. The first few times it wouldn't connect, but then suddenly my phone beeped twice and I got the connection window saying my 3G was connecting. At first I thought I had just forced it but in retrospect, I think I just had a bad signal and had just connected to my 3G network. Thanks for all the info guys!
[XPERIA X1 General] anaadoul:
Call dropped maybe?!

try this,

Start -> Settings -> Phone -> Band

1.Set network type to WCDMA

2.Set GSM/UMTS band to UMTS

these forces your device into a 3G+ network

3.open commManager from start menu

4.turn dataconnection ON

5.Make a call

6.try browsing

7.Post Here

cheers
[XPERIA X1 General] johnchan78:
I agree... 3G and 3G+ seem to consume LESS battery than WIFI!

As for Edge, my experience is that I never could get simultaneous voice/data, but you're right, both the cell AND the phone need to support this function. I dont think our Xperia's hardware actually supports this at all. When I switched to using the Xperia I had purposely changed to a 3G network to take advantage of the 3G/3G+ capabilities it has.
[XPERIA X1 General] leobox1:
i am quite sure that GPRS does not support simultaneous... everytime i call, a "cancel" icon appeared
[XPERIA X1 General] andydrives2fast:
I called AT&T to see if they support simultaneous Data and Voice and they said they do, but your phone has to as well. The X1 supports it also, so I just think I wasn't asble to do so because I was only in GPRS, not 3G.
[XPERIA X1 General] johnchan78:
It doesn't. We already stated that above. anaadoul and me already stated that above.
[G1 Android Development] MeatyCoins:
just incase i have to wipe my phone again is their a way i can extract the apps i have now (like the beta helloaim) so that when i can later install back from my sd ? whenever i go to data/ i dont see a app folder, and i am on JF 1.4 rc33
[G1 Android Development] ashshlay:
You can use the "Astro" app and use its application manager under its menu to backup your apps. The only thing it won't do is backup your apps that are in the apps-private folder. You should be able to do that if you have root and a terminal available. I saw a thread with the exact commands in here somewhere and would reference if I weren't on my G1 now.

I hope that helps.
[G1 Android Development] akapoor:
@ashshlay:

Do you think MyBackup would function the same?

- Backup all the apps

- Flash the phone

- Restore with MyBackup Backup file and have all the applications that were originally installed?

Thanks.
[G1 Android Development] bestwebs:
Hi,

I use astro also and works great for backup to the sd card.

Also here is the post with commands for app-private.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=485003&page=2

I just did this and it works.

:)
[G1 Android Development] Nitro212:
yes, thats what i do, works fine..
[HTC Excalibur] nutron:
Trying to connect to a shared internet connection from a imac running osx 10.5.3. On the phone the network is detected as if is a router and it will not let me select the "this is a device to device (ad-hoc) connection" check box, it will not connect. when adding the network by hand and selecting this check box I am still unable to connect to the network.

Other device on my network are able to connect to this connection with no problem.

I am hoping someone has tried this sort of setup before and can possible share a bit their knowledge with me. Any help is appreciated.
[HTC Excalibur] roloracer:
Is your phone an att tilt?
[HTC Excalibur] nutron:
Not a tilt, its a HTC Excalibur branded as a T-mobile Dash. Though I do have a Tilt available to test the network with, that will be my next step in troubleshooting.
[HTC Excalibur] roloracer:
I see, I asked cause it says it on your bottom signature.
[HTC Excalibur] michaelmk:
Hi,

I am wondering if you were able to resolve your issue. I am in the same situation, but with a HTC touch and a HTC Magic.

I am unable to connect with either device to the network shared by my mac. However, other mac machines are able to access the network.

Advice appreciated.

Thanks!

Michael

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[www.mksiu.com]
[General Topics] someprogr:
Hey guys I just purchased an ADP1 phone for use with my AT&T wireless plan. I currently have AT&T with an old motorola phone which includes unlimited data. The unlimited data plan is not "PDA Personal" but just MediaMax Unlimited which is $15.00 and includes unlimited data/web/email etc.

Should I contact AT&T and tell them to put me on PDA personal for my new ADP1 or will my current plan suffice? Also, if I'm on MediaMax and they find out im using an ADP1, can they charge me thousands of dollars ($0.01 = 1KB)?

Anyone else in the same situation?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] winpeace:
I don't want increase ringtone.I change phone setting to ring but don't change always ring increase.

I try;

1. In sound settings in wm6(official rom) i have selected sound type NOT TO "Increasing"

2. I have tried to apply Ringtone Scripts at HKEY_CURRENTUSER\ControlPanel\Sounds\RingTone0

please help me.how to fix?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] winpeace:
anyone help :(
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wharsilius:
Yes, please help. How to fix?

Vay toprağım seni burda görmek ne güzel :D Bende yeni geldiydim :rolleyes:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] defaria:
Suddenly my Sprint HTC Touch Diamond is running extremely slow. TouchFlo 3D will not start. Various things runs extremely slowly like tapping on the start menu takes like 20-30 seconds to come up.

Rebooted several times. Turned off TouchFlo. Phone's still as slow as molasses?

What to do? Flash the ROM? If so, which I'd hate to do, where do I get the original Sprint based ROM?

Update: For some reason \Windows\manilla.exe never gets run. If I run it by hand then Touch Flo comes up. But it's still kinda slow.

Who/What starts manilla.exe?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] caudex:
Simply do a hard reset, this will reset everything back to original rom as in a factory reset.

http://www.hardreset.eu/htc_touch_diamond_hard_reset_soft_reset_en.html
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] defaria:
That would be wonderful if I didn't customize things. But I have - heavily. And I'll need to reinstall all my apps. I was hoping not to do that...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Riker88:
But this is the most likely reason it is running slowly... Needs a hard reset and start again - and be judicious with what you re-install.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] band27:
Before doing a hard reset, have you tried a soft reset??

A soft reset for heavy users is almost required dally in some cases to release the memory from being attached to programs and the OS which is consider to be called "Memory Leaks." A typical problem for all 6.1 Roms.

This slow and sometimes unresponsive behaviour was what also experience as well. There are programs that help memory find it's home but sometimes a good old fashion soft reset is what's needed.

Last thing: Make sure that when you have flashed a new ROM to ALWAYS do a HARD RESET immediately. Not sure if you followed that procedure in your last flash. IF not, I'm afraid a soft reset might not be sufficient to remedy this issue for you.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] defaria:
This is exactly what I was trying to avoid. A computer doesn't suddenly go from running OK to dog slow when you have not changed anything (I only rebooted/soft reset). The running of manilla.exe doesn't suddenly disappear.

Everything I install I install for a reason.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] defaria:
Daily! If not hourly. WinMo is not known for being stable.

I'm well versed in what memory leaks are. 'Round here we call them bugs. Being in the business for some 30 years now I can tell you that having to reboot an OS periodically is a sign of an extremely buggy OS. Unfortunately that's what WinMo is.

There's a big difference between being slow and being suddenly SLOOOOOOOOOWWWWW.

I've yet to flash this phone. I was hoping to avoid it. There are so many ROMs to choose from, some better than others. And I'm not looking forward to having to reapply all my customizations...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] rumpleforeskin:
i get a problem like this occasionally after a restart. I need to hit the green dial key to get it to ask my PIN. after i enter my pin everything is back to normal.

just an idea
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] sonnybravo:
sprite backup

What you should do is when you hard-reset the phone and you have installed all your must-have apps (and the phone still runs smoothly) use Sprite Backup to make an image. This way when things go bad again, just restore the Sprite image to that wonderful time when everything still worked smoothly and you won't have to install all the apps again. Only the apps you installed after the image ofcourse... depends how often you backup :D

Works like a charm.

Be careful though, when you flash another rom, you

CAN'T

use the Sprite image anymore!! You have to make a new image then.

Hope this helps.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] robjhellis:
Hi Guys,

I'm posting in the general forum to get a wider audience. I have a x_7510 (Athena 400). I am running xTep's 1.01 ROM.

I have 4GB, 8GB & 16 GB Scandisk Cruser USB Thumb drives. The 4GB is read just fine either via the docking station or the 4 in 1 cable, showing up under File Explorer as "Hard Disk", however, the 8 & 16 GB do not. My notebook reports that the Thumb Drives are formatted FAT32.

On 8/01/08 LTxda reported being able to read a Corsair Voyager Brand 16 GB using the 4-in-1 cable on his 7500 no problem - see post #23 at:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=357502&highlight=External+Drive&page=3.

Anyone have any ideas on why I'm not able to read the larger capacity drives?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] jimmunsw:
Hi there !

Some brands of thumb drive are not readable no matter what format it is in . You have to buy another brand and make sure you bring along your x7510 fully charged and also the 4 in 1 cable to test before you buy . the same goes to buying keyboard , wired or wireless or bluetooth mouse , trackballs mouse , external hdd and etc... any external / usb device you may think of , bring out x7510 & cable , test first before you buy - it's definitely safer bro . Or maybe fully reformat again your thumb drive once or twice and see what happens , but please copy all your data to your laptop first - ok ? Also plug in the cable and thumb drive and soft reset your x7510 and see what happens . Best of luck to you - jimmunsw :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] hishamh:
Tested 16GB Kingston Datatraveller and 8GB Sandisk Cruzer with 4in1 cable on a Dopod U1000 (x7501) - both work fine.

I would seriously not consider "formating" your thumb drive unless you really know what you are doing. Unlike flash cards, flash drives can't be formated with the usual software tools e.g. those available through XP or Vista. I learned that the hard way.

As to your problem, I have no idea what is going on - Windows Mobile should not have a problem reading FAT32 volumes. I do recall however that Sandisk Cruzers come with U3, is that enabled or disabled on yours?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] robjhellis:
Thanks for the input. I have disabled the U3 application, and I have reformatted the 8 & 16 GB drives, but with no success (although the both seem fine after the formatting). I'm wondering if there is something in the Athena 400 set-up that is different from the Athena 100 o/s that could be contributing to this?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] jimmunsw:
Dear hishamh ,

Have u tried 32gb or 64gb thumbdrive with 4 in 1 cable ?

If yes , what brand please ?

How is the transfer speed ?

Any comment on these big storage thumbdrives ?

Thanks & regards - jimmunsw :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] hishamh:
I'll let you know - my wife has a 32GB drive, but I'm not in a position to test it right now.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] hishamh:
Kingston Datatraveller 150: 32GB

Works fine. I didn't test transfer speeds, but in general you shouldn't expect more than USB1.1 at best. I did play a 700kBps Divx movie off of it - benchmarks with CorePlayer say about 80%+, which is more or less what I expected.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] jimmunsw:
32gb kingston datatravellers 150 thumbdrives

Dear Hishamh ,

Thanks for your kind reply , it is good news to hear that 32gb thumbdrive can be used for our 4in 1 cable , do u have any idea our device can use a microsd with minisd adapter for 32 gb microsd card ? I have checked at low yat , it is still not out yet but in 2 to 3 months time , it maybe out for sale then , and another question is that the 16gb microsd card can be used right ? - Will the usages sapps the battery power - i wonder ? Please enlighten us - thanks for sharing and best regards to u bro ... jimmunsw :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] arstical:
Maybe you can try format the TF card with Fat,not Fat32:)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] xdawis:
Ameo 4in1

I don´t understand that the´re people not using ,as I discribed a few times, a HDD 1,8 inch f.e. I´m using a trekstor HDD 120GB. With that combination 4in1 cable I am able to read files with about 15000 KB/s.

Writing is slow 300 KB/s.

It works perfect since a few months.
[G1 Android Development] charnsingh_online:
I think there will be no paid applications for modded firmware and dev phone. Jesus freke Please help or we may be devoid of good applications. Jesus Freke or paid application? I chose Jesus freke but i also want paid. Anybody who can fool the market making it show that modded g1 is Official G1. It may be because we have root and can apply app crack.
[G1 Android Development] doooshty:
umm...what?

I am running JF1.43ADP1.1h and I have paid apps working just fine.
[G1 Android Development] phreke:
I'm not sure what you mean. I have successfully purchased and installed paid applications on JF 1.42 RC33. Anyone else having issues?

phreke
[G1 Android Development] uberingram:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=484681&page=16

It starts getting juicy on page 15 or so. A mod might want to close this topic since it's already being discussed.
[G1 Android Development] RandumAccess:
Thats nonsense I have a root phone and i see all paid apps and even bought a few... that i thought were worth buying...lol
[G1 Android Development] bakgwailo:
it is not non sense, google themselves have stated that any ADP phone (holiday or not) will not be able to access and copy protected paid apps from the market. You CAN access non-protected apps though.

-1 for google.
[G1 Android Development] aron4588:
i am on jf rc33 i can't see crap
[G1 Android Development] pychobj2001:
I am on JF1.42RC33L and I can see and buy everything...well..ok everything i can see what is protected vs unprotected? and do we not see the protected paid apps? are we missing some? somebody needs to link a quote up of where they saw this "ADP won't get protected apps" stuff...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] caudex:
The HTC Diamond reserves 64MB for Opera which leaves 112mb for programs.

I dont use opera that much, is there a way to decrease that 64mb to something like 32mb?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] losdrivare:
AFAK, it's not for Opera, 64 mb is dedicated to the graphics acceleration. You cannot change this amount.
[S740, S743 General] skropp:
After I setup my phone to sync with my company's exchange server, I have to enter a 4 digit code when I want to unlock the keys. Is there a way to set it back the way it was before; unlock+* ?

The option to turn the device lock on is ticked and grayed out, but is there a way to change this in the register, or some other way?
[S740, S743 General] motaba:
Stay Unlock

I use Zenyee Stay Unlock for Smartphone 2.0.cab and it works. It can be found here http://www.zenyee.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/zenyee-stay-unlock-for-smartphonecab20.zip
[S740, S743 General] skropp:
Thank you motaba, works great!
[General Topics] Daemos:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/stantums-mind-blowing-multitouch-interface-on-video/#continued

I hope to see tablet Pcs and phones with this tech soon!
[General Topics] nir36:
This is amazing.

now i'm jealous..
[General Topics] Daemos:
I just hope they put this tech out sooner than later =D

HTC just has to put this + better hardware into their phones for a winner =D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] greg_gorrell:
Hey guys, has anyone successfully used a .gif file as a background in the TouchFLO? I can set it as the background on my Fuze, but it isn't animated. It just stays at the start.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] greg_gorrell:
anyone? is this even possible?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Jim Coleman:
Not without some piece of software to handle the transitions, no.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] msmith1991:
but yet regular unsmart phones can do it
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] one80oneday:
thats what I dont understand? ive been searching and waiting for something to support GIF for either TF3D, today screen, WAD, SPB, and I think its funny it can be done with S2U but nothing else :-( hopefully someday it will happen. I think it would make our backgrounds that much more awesome
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] greg_gorrell:
yeah i definitely agree... i figured as much about using third party software but that would probably only be for the windows today screen and not for touchflo. ill do some searching and see what i can find, im pretty hell bent on figuring this out.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kalvin6:
Re:

I actually have a piece of software to support this, and I currently use it on my today screen. PM me for details and ill send it to you.:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mattdehat:
gif

hi,ive pm you ,thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bugsykoosh:
All of the solutions seem to be today plugins. They work but not with TF3D since you cannot set them as backgrounds. The most impressive I've seen is this one: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=340222

If you turn off TF3D you can get an airplane flying in the background - pretty neat. Anyone have the ability to convert this into a background for all or some TF3D tabs?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mattdehat:
gif

this works on my fuze fine .more gifs would be nice
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] MossMan4x4:
I've searched and read everything I can find but I'm not encouraged. Before I box up my warranty return I just wanted to check one last time.

Is there anyway to revert to Soft SPL without having to use ActiveSync? Maybe via Micro SD or Bluetooth.

Thanks,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
By Soft SPL I hope you mean Stock SPL ;)

Yes, you can use the techniques in the thread by cmonex above. But use the KAISIMG.NBH file with stock SPL instead of the Hard SPL.

Thread closed, please post in the existing discussion - "Returning for warranty" thread.

Ta

Dave