yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G1 Android Development] senaia:
I think in this situation, proof would be a copy of an email or something similar.

And I think if an app is available for free from the dev themselves, and also paid on the market, it should be ok but permission prefered. For example the A2SD app when a2sd was new. The app was posted on this forum as free download, and in market at £1, I know devs made their own a2sd scripts, but I think if the app was to be included in a rom, permission would be appreciated

But that's just me, not too sure really
[G1 Android Development] Stericson:
If its a paid app in the market, or anywhere for that matter, then it is warez.

You MAY use a devs app in your rom as long as you have permission. However that permission must be verified and it WILL be looked into by me or another mod in order to make sure it is authentic.

In a case like this it would be best for the dev to contact a mod at the forum to let us know this is ok.

Stericson
[G1 Android Development] jcarrz1:
what about things like setcpu? like I bought it on the market and all, but the dev has a thread on xda here : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=505419

yea.

Edit: i saw that you made kingklick remove setcpu from his rom?????
[G1 Android Development] Stericson:
Yes, because he didnt have permission from the owner and the owner actually confronted him about it...
[G1 Android Development] gurnted:
No offense but.....

:Dlmfao..this thread is so hypocritical. I love it! You redefine the word warez to fit your own personal standards, then force said standards on the rest of the users. You would have been a great asset to the Christians during the crusades.

So let's get this right. The things you listed are warez, but TGE, SenseUI, BlurUI, Windows Mobile roms, etc isn't?:eek: Please enlighten us on exactly how you reached this conclusion. The way you are handling this makes it seem as if you are being an advocate for only independent devs, and saying f*** the corporations and their devs. Steal from them all you want.

I understand that banning all warez would be restrictive enough to make devs go elsewhere to post, but what good does banning some do? Protect xda from the small time devs who can't afford legal teams anyway? If you really wanted to cover xda's a** you would be banning redistribution of the big boys' software.

Please don't take offense to this. This is meant to have a humorous tone (in other words I'm just BSing around). I don't mean it as a personal attack or anything like that. I have much respect for the people here who help make android better, and understand what you guys are getting at. I just found the obviously flawed nature of your actions way to funny to not point out.
[G1 Android Development] CrazyEye:
Sounds fair enough =]

It would be awesome if ROM devs create their own apps and have it exclusively on Their roms. It will definantly spruce up the experience
[G1 Android Development] carnegie0107:
The whole point here is to keep xda out of trouble. For the most part, Microsoft, HTC, Motorola, etc. don't care that we're tinkering with their stuff. When they do mind, xda has to stop it (like what happened with Cyanogen's C&D). You can't ban all redistribution of "intellectual property" (I hate that phrase, it's stupid to think that knowledge could be someone's property, but that is the current view of the law), or people would leave xda, but you have to ban outright swapping of paid apps, or xda gets in big trouble.

That said... I question the free here/paid on the market apps. There are some apps on the market that are paid, but are open source (in some cases GPL) and can be freely downloaded from the dev's website. In this case, certainly permission would be best, but in the case of the dev not responding, certainly this would be okay? I mean, in this case (open source), it's completely legal to redistribute. Therefore, including it in your rom should absolutely be allowable, yes?

That said, I thought I had read somewhere that betterterminal was free software? Or am I wrong....? I will go look into it.
[G1 Android Development] blueheeler:
So that means that all devs must NOT include any of the Google apps, right?

I mean every dev must come up with a way just like Cyanogen did, right?

Afterall, the C&D letter to Cyanogen set a precedence. Everyone is well aware of Google's position.

That makes it far more serious for everyone to comply.
[G1 Android Development] Mikey:
Better terminal has A free Version:

Free Better Terminal 1.3

Better Terminal has a PAID Version:

Better Terminal Pro 1.55

The free Version is fine in ROMS, obviously not the paid version ;)
[G1 Android Development] Stericson:
Ok, This is cut and dry. Yall need to quit trying to make this bigger then what it is.

In XDA's eye,

All paid for apps are warez.

Quickoffice is warez.

If the app in question is open source, then its open source and can be used, link that states it is open source would be great to display.

Quit trying to blow this bigger then what it is. We could stand here all day and argue over the "technacalities" of whats legal and whats not. So lets just not waste our time writing long posts to argue something that isnt even worth arguing here, IMO.

Once again, untill further notice, on XDA, in specific regards to content in relation to android, the term warez will reference Paid apps, and quickoffice.

In the future we may add to this, but not at this time.

Stericson
[G1 Android Development] hharte:
I am the developer of Better Terminal Emulator. Better Terminal Emulator 1.3 was for Android 1.0. It's best to use Better Terminal Emulator Magic v1.5 for Cupcake and later. I recently updated Better Terminal Emulator Pro for the new Android devices coming out, and will be upgrading the free version of Better Terminal Emulator Magic to include all the soft keyboard bugfixes that went into Pro. Essentially "Magic" will have all features of "Pro" except the Enhanced Shell and Virtual DPAD.

Any ROM developers who wish to include Better Terminal Emulator Magic are free to do so.

Also, I made a Wiki to cover Better Terminal Emulator:

http://www.magicandroidapps.com/wiki

My goal is to make Better Terminal Emulator Magic the best FREE Terminal Emulator for Android, and to add some great features to Pro for people who want to be on the cutting edge with the latest improvements. I am also planning to support x86-based Android devices, and have posted Better Terminal Emulator Magic to many app sites, since I know many development devices don't have access to the official Market.

Thanks for your interest in, and support of Better Terminal Emulator.

-Howard
[G1 Android Development] bryon13:
Kudos for protecting the app devs, but...

When did XDA become a soap opera?

For f*%#s sake, people, if a dev says so, then it is so!

If you don't like it, find another forum!

Hell, I don't totally agree with the definition of "warez" they seem to be using, but this isn't MY FORUM, so I don't have ANY REASON TO COMPLAIN WHEN THEY MAKE RULES!

Dammit, just be happy they're leaving stuff alone that they're leaving alone! If you can't live without quickoffice, or stealing paid apps, then FIGURE OUT A WAY TO FIND THEM YOURSELF!

Some of you want to argue about the most ridiculous crap! At least you can still download the friggin roms!

STFU already!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] michaelsonline:
Just edited the skin.dial.640x480 and skin.dial.480x640 to black and white and played with the contrast and brightness so it suits touch diamond a little better. For anyone interested the skin files are actually just png format.

Hope someone finds this useful.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] michaelsonline:
New diamond style based on IPC Black Dialer ENG

backup the file skin.dial.480x640 file in the directory AGEphone is installed to (IE: \Internal Storage\Program Files\AGEphone) then copy over the new file skin.dial.480x640

enjoy

Mike
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] mikeharris:
Is there any chance you could do a 800x480 and 480x800 skin in Black?

Thanks in advance!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] michaelsonline:
sure I will work on it saturday for you.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] michaelsonline:
skins for 480x800 and 800x 480 as requested by mikeharris

Here you go just drop the files into the install directory

feel free to leave any comments.

thanks

Mike
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] angelfire226:
I totally love this skin, but it's mapped all wrong for wvga. =(
[Touch Pro CDMA] TheSeanTeam:
My communication config page is blank. Has anyone seen this problem before? Any thoughts on a possible fix?

I have a sprint TouchPro.
[Touch Pro CDMA] TheSeanTeam:
Has anyone experienced this problem before or have any recommendations to fix this condition?
[Touch GSM General] WeThaPanx:
hello,

i now im wrong in this page but.. i have a htc touch and i want to install "yota contacts and dialer" and it doesnt work, on my screen one single button is like the whole screen big from the dialer. i downloaded the yota things on xda-developers. is there a version for HTC TOUCH ?:confused:
[Touch GSM General] Airpil:
I don't think that is it possible to run Yota Contact on device with QvGA scren. HTC MAX 4G has 800x480 scren. And it nessesery convert all grafics files and customize xml and *dll
[Touch GSM General] hayer:
download the QVGA version it works perfectly on my stock rom htc touch
[G1 Android Development] smsrat84:
Back in Nov there was news of a flash player 10 for the G1. Well, its Feb, has there been any word on a release or release date?
[G1 Android Development] t1n0m3n:
Adobe is famous for their vaporware. Knowing how Adobe is with ANY updates to flash, I would say that the chances of a version of flash for the G1 anytime this year are slim to nil.
[G1 Android Development] topdnbass:
True, but there really are some great minds at Adobe..

It wont be longer than a few months i dont think.
[G1 Android Development] Datruesurfer:
There was an article about a week ago that said that the reason why we haven't seen flash yet is because the 'lite' version for Windows Mobile is too stripped down while the full desktop version is too demanding. They need to make a version of flash that performs well and is feature rich. This takes A LOT of time and effort to complete.

I would say that when all of the features from cupcake go mainstream, Google will make flash a priority. It's probably on the backburner for now.
[G1 Android Development] blahzay_blah:
apple is on the verge of getting flash 10 too it would really suck ig they got it before android users
[G1 Android Development] APrinceAmongMen:
Google can't do anything about getting flash to us, except ask for it.

Same thing with Apple. It all depends on Adobe and who they like more. :)

I've seen videos of flash 10 for the g1. I'm guessing it was a WM version, but we'll just have to wait.
[G1 Android Development] LPChris:
Haha dude, that was Apple that said that about Flash for the iPhone. The lite wasn't powerful enough, but the full version was too bloated. Google said nothing like that and they actually have a full version working on the G1.
[G1 Android Development] Ron Overdrive:
And in the end that was just Apple's way of just trying to make a legitimate excuse why Flash isn't on the iPhone, but when you look at their licensing agreements Flash will never be allowed on the iPhone because its a development platform that people can use to side step Apple's Nazi Q&A department to get apps on the iPhone.

Personally I can't way for Flash support and my money is on it'll be here by the end of the year due to the increasing demand.
[G1 Android Development] chicojd:
I'm Sooooo sick of people comparing the progress of the iPhone to the G1!!! iPhone is already getting ready for 3rd generation this summer. Why? Because after two years, it's still outpaced by the four month old G1!!! Once Google gets around to getting this thing up to it's full potential, Apple will have to return to the drawing board scratching their heads. Imagine when the next gen Android phones finally come out!!! Can't WAIT to see what these things will be capable of!!!
[G1 Android Development] lbcoder:
I think you mean when the next version of the OPERATING SYSTEM comes out. The hardware is fine as it is.

Regarding flash... don't expect it any time soon. It took them close to SIX YEARS to finally support current desktop CPUs.... in ALPHA.

swfdec and gnash are good places to start if anyone is interested in building an open source flash player for android.
[G1 Android Development] d0nkey:
are you saying the working demo of flash on the g1 is a hoax then?

cause if they have even a lite working version of flash currently i dont see what the problem is.
[G1 Android Development] Henchman:
A. The G1 should have been AS good as the 2nd generation iPhone when it was released, because they actually had an example to learn and copy.

B.The G1 is far behind the iPhone in terms of performance and capabilities. It's not outpaced by the G1 by any stretch of the imagination.
[G1 Android Development] LPChris:
Haha did you even read this line? The G1 is behind the G1 and its not outpaced by the G1. ROFL
[G1 Android Development] Henchman:
Hahahahaha. Oops. Little typo.

Fixed now.
[G1 Android Development] LPChris:
Now that that's fixed. You're wrong.
[G1 Android Development] Henchman:
Unfortunately, I'm not.

Maybe you can show me where I can find Google Earth on my G1?

Or as cool a media player as the iPhone has.

Or how about some really cool, arcade quality games?

Oh, and maybe you can tell me how to get my Push email working with exchange.

And multitouch. And the soft keyboard.

These are just a few of the little things.
[G1 Android Development] derfolo:
My opinion: I think a ROOTED G1 is far better than iPhone in potential and capability.

Autorotation YES

Multitouch YES

Soft keyboard YES--already 2 versions available; will get better in 2 months or less

Run from SD card--flexible expandibility YES

Run all apps in background YES

Dont have to pay to do stupid crap like direct dial a contact YES

Open source YES

OS will run on lots of different phones and non-phones YES

Wireless Tethering YES

Significant updates all the time (now at RC33 since RC19 in November 2008) YES

Can use the OS to run a robot YES

;)
[G1 Android Development] derfolo:
Oh, I forgot these as well--

Change look and feel via custom themes YES

Huge cell phone companies like Samsung and Motorola and HTC jumping in YES
[G1 Android Development] Henchman:
Let's see.

Soft keyboard? where?

Multi-Touch? 1 app only.

Autorotation? Not working untill I can get the new droidsans.

Open Source. Big deal. 95% of the Apps are crap. ALL of the games are crap.

Significant updates? It currently is approaching where it SHOULD have been on the first release.

Still not there yet.
[G1 Android Development] derfolo:
"Soft keyboard? where?"

SoftKeyboard just came out this week. AKeyUI has been out for months now.

"Multi-Touch? 1 app only."

Well, actually 2--you obviously haven't seen Luke's Picture Sorter. Also, have you seen Luke's messages to the Google developers regarding multitouch? Seems to me that they were quite impressed.

"ALL of the games are crap."

I like Sudoku, Trap!, and other goofy little games--YZ, PapiJump, ThrottleCopter, Mastermind. These are time wasters when I am waiting in line or sitting in a waiting room. I also like the aReader books, Dracula, Call of the Wild, etc. They are also FREE. Do you think, just maybe, the quality of the games has something to do with their cost and the current ability to charge for them?

"Significant updates? It currently is approaching where it SHOULD have been on the first release."

This will be funny to anyone that knows about large-scale product releases. I will leave it at that, but poke your iPhone in this one. Anyone with the initial release of iPhone can attest to its problems.

Finally you forgot my last two points:

"Change look and feel via custom themes YES

Huge cell phone companies like Samsung and Motorola and HTC jumping in YES"

And you forgot these as well:

"Run from SD card--flexible expandibility YES

Run all apps in background YES

Dont have to pay to do stupid crap like direct dial a contact YES

OS will run on lots of different phones and non-phones YES

Wireless Tethering YES"

;)
[G1 Android Development] derfolo:
double post
[G1 Android Development] The_Kills:
The thing I hate about Adobe is they are like Sony...they reveal something that isnt coming out in eons..
[G1 Android Development] diabolical28:
Adobes blogs says mid this year so let's hope they get all the bugs out of the demo'd version but from what I read they are not just going to make it so you can view flash webpages but actually run stand alone apps on devices themselves
[G1 Android Development] Ducter:
i hope apple gets flash so that way its out there and then JesusFreke could maybe get it working on the G1 for at least rooted phones because if its out there someone could get it on the g1 in no time.

also apple has been claiming to get flash from adobe for a long time ever since i-phone 2G so the chances of apple getting it are either very slim or they could really be on the verge of getting it.
[G1 Android Development] xm0is3sx:
ima just stay quiet :rolleyes:
[G1 Android Development] derfolo:
Article: CSS Animation Coming to Safari, Already in iPhone. Less Dependence on Flash?

Apple seems to want to bypass Adobe and Flash altogether:

http://mobile.macrumors.com/
[G1 Android Development] lbcoder:
Most of the crap that uses flash are things that simply SHOULD NOT use flash... like VIDEOS. Videos should NOT use flash, but should use standard downloadable files and/or should be standard streaming videos.
[G1 Android Development] Henchman:
Please show me where I select to install apps on my SD easily.

How do I get the softkeyboard to open up when I need to eneter data?

I've seen the little demo-picture mutlit-touch app. Like I said. Multi-touch is ony useable in one proper app. The browser.

The games remain crap.

As far as a major roll out. Well, that's what the initial release was supposed to be. And it was pretty dismal.

Thank god XDA guys are doing themes, because the original graphics are pathetic as well. The whole GUI looks like a first years graphics B Student designed it.
[G1 Android Development] d00m:
Don't feed the trolls
[G1 Android Development] Henchman:
Typical fanboy response when they can't come up with a reasonable argument, or can't counter facts.
[G1 Android Development] Ron Overdrive:
The only ones I've noticed that are *****ing about games are the kids. You want high quality games go buy a DS or PSP, they're made specifically for games and do their job a lot better then the iPhone. Games for phones are more or less time killers when you're dropping a duce on the john or waiting in line somewhere. And like what was said earlier the quality of games relate directly to their budget, if they can't charge for their games yet they aren't going to invest the money necessary to make it high quality.
[G1 Android Development] derfolo:
At the risk of feeding trolls...

Install apps on SD: Perhaps you have somehow overlooked the directions on the front page? I never said it was easy, but it's possible. Is it possible on iPhone?

Softkeyboard: Softkeyboard is a background running process (again, something iPhone doesn't do). Just pull it down from the G1's task bar. Note that Cupcake has it built in.

Multitouch: Since it was just released a few weeks ago, should we give it some time before we complain that there aren't any apps for it?

Games: As I said before, no payment options means no arcade style games. This will be addressed soon, probably by the time Cupcake rolls out.

Themes: You can make any theme you want. How is that not superior to iPhone? If I get sick of iPhone's interface (as you seem to be about the stock G1 interface), what do I do about it?

Also, you again left out so many of my points:

Run apps in background YES

Dont have to pay to do stupid crap like direct dial a contact YES

OS will run on lots of different phones and non-phones YES

Wireless Tethering YES

Can use the OS to run a robot YES

Huge cell phone companies like Samsung and Motorola and HTC jumping in YES

But that's OK. The iPhone can't compete in these areas, because the iPhone simply doesn't do these things.
[G1 Android Development] Henchman:
Don't need it o n the iPhoen, as Apple made sure the internal memory was enough to install usic games and Apps on.

The idiots at Google didn't make it possible, so you ahev to go through a convoluted hack to do it.

Shoudl be part of the OS already.

Yeah, like I said. It still doesn't have multitouch.

Yeah, been hearig that for awhile now. It will come soon.

Last time I heard, it was going to be in January. Hmm, yeah, paid apps still not here.

Again, like I said, thank GOD we can do our own themes, because the default is pathetic.

Ok, Os running on LOTS of different phones. First, which ones are out right now. 2nd, who cares how MANY phones it runs on. It's still a lame OS at this point.

Wireless tethering. I could do that with my old WM5 phone Big deal, and ou can do ti with the iPhone as well.

Run a ROBOT, another BFD.

Seriously, the UI is still laggy and not smooth. Ugly, and may things are still missing. If T-Mobile and the iPhone, I would have switched it already. That's how underwhelmed I am by this phone. And I am by no stretch of the imagination and Apple fanboy.

Quite the opposite.
[G1 Android Development] derfolo:
Apple fanboys have a right to be proud--the iPhone is a great product. We'll have to sit back and find out if Android is the disruptive technology that many of us think it is. Again, my initial post in this thread started with "my opinion." Your opinion is just as valid, but keep in mind that we are both customers, and customers make products successful.

Now I will respond in the way you respect, by smashing yet again all those Apple fanboy tenets they hold dear:

1. An SD card is always better than internal memory. Next year 8GB = not enough. Then what? Throw away that crappy iPhone, baby! ;)

2. The OS is coming along just fine, thank you--which is why all those huge manufacturers are dumping theirs to use it. Yeah, maybe you're smarter than all these multibillion dollar international entities. ;)

This leads to my other point about the OS running on other things--robots, MIDs, Netbooks, etc. What this means is that the market for Android will grow in many dimensions while the market for iPhone's OS will be stuck where it is, on proprietary hardware. I understand if you don't get how that is a "BFD". ;)

3. The iPhone's wireless tethering is more complicated to get going than the G1's.

4. And the UI of the iPhone, once again for the 5th time, CAN'T BE CHANGED.

5. All the other stuff you keep failing to address? 5 times now? That would be called a loss for words, my friend. A loss for words.

(Back up folks, the trolls have been fed!)
[G1 Android Development] blakestimac:
Silly me, I thought this thread was about flash.
[G1 Android Development] Henchman:
I can post a lot more stuff that you can't address if you'd like. I'm addressing the issues I mentioned, and some you did.

Yes, I agree an SD card IS better than internal memory. WHEN YOU CAN USE IT. This is NOT the case with Android and G1. The iPhones memory is measured in GIGS. The G1's is in megabytes. Which is pathetic.

You say tethering on the iPhone is more difficult than the G1. Using the SD card for apps is ridiculously convoluted to do. So, let's not go there, shall we.
[G1 Android Development] Henchman:
I'm not bitter. I'm pissed off that as cheap as memory is, they couldn't even give us a gig of internal memory. And then haven't even made it possible to use the SD card for programs, becasue of soem BS 'security" reason.

Wankers.
[G1 Android Development] skesseks:
lose!

Resorted to name calling. I declare you out of arguments. Now bck to the OT.
[G1 Android Development] Henchman:
Uum, I'm calling Google wankers. Not the Posters here.

You sure think highly of yourself, don't you.