yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
That's my intention :).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] chrisque1:
Backgrounds

John, I had been reading about ur rom (the whole thread) and about cooking (just trying to learn) and I have a some questions.

1. I´m using ur rom with SPB Shell 3.0 and I can´t change the background. Also when I set a background in the home screen (the normal one), the colors get changed. Any ideas?

2. I also installed the twin 3d libs and made the diamond hologram work without problem. I did it try to solve the nackground issue, but didn´t work. But I got better video speed than with the miri xtralight rom :).

4. John why u keep the MS office in the rom? Maybe it should be optional in a cab (I use the softmaker suite for my work stuff). I will try to remove it in a re-cook.

Thxs for ur work, and for keeping rom unlock to use in the kitchen.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
As I'm not familiar with SPB Mobile Shell 3.0 I can't help you out :(? Maybe you'll find some answers in their forums?

No, unfortunately nothing I can do anything about :(.

I'm not keen on deleting any Microsoft stuff out of the rom, I was just keen to get a clean plain WM 6.1 ROM. As Office can be quite useful for most people, I don't see a reason to remove it. Re-cooking the ROM shouldn't be a problem at all, so just remove all stuff you don't want to use on your own :p.

There will be an update of the ROM soon, I have to consider if deleting Office out of the ROM and providing it as a Cab is a good option.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] chrisque1:
:)

The questions about the backgrouds is because in the miri xlight rom, in duttys and in marios super light rom, I dont have that problem, but have other problems. I was just wondering why could it be?

Ur rom, in my opinion, is the more stable, and also I get better video playback with coreplayer with your rom.

I will be waiting for the next update. :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
The only thing I can imagine is are the D3D drivers. I haven't updated them for quite a while, so maybe the other chiefs are using newer versions already. Will examine that while making a new rom, as soon as I get a new official resource.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henrik.dk:
awaiting the new release. This is really the rom with original windows mobile taste. Tried quite some others, they are mixed with wm and iphone style.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henrik.dk:
Just experience one amazing thing is that the program/setting looks classic but it supports touch mode.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
I don't like this Iphone mania either, but thats a question of personal taste. My opinion on that is the following: If you want an Iphone, get one :p.

Thats because TouchFlo still remains in the ROM, as the buttons don't work without it :(.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henrik.dk:
That is good to have even with the cost to be with hidden TouchFlo.

One thing I was wondering is that the memory footprint compared to

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=482258 SuperLite version,

yours is around 136MB free while superlite is around 150MB free. That seems to be a big difference.

When do you expect to release you new ROM?

I tried different ROMs due to a new wave of update. Now I miss the time with barebone.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
I don't know what onkolog has done in order to get that amount of free RAM.

I guess he has another page pool, whereas mine is dynamic, so it changes as soon as more is needed. Furthermore he has removed some help files, so maybe the file system cache needs a little bit less RAM.

However I haven't noticed any problems with the amount of RAM my ROM grants, so I won't change anything about this probably.

I don't know. I'm looking for a official ROM with 21048 SYS, but haven't seen it so far.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dusty_nz:
Close on exit

How do I enable the close on exit option.

Eg if you click and hold the X then the app is exited versus pushed into background.

Thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henrik.dk:
Hi johnpatcher,

Any news on a new release?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Isn't there a option somewhere in the settings? At least I think so ...

Haven't found any new official resources so far, so it probably will take a while ...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henrik.dk:
So Do you mean the release from the below link is not official?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=518418&highlight=status
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henrik.dk:
I don't think so. I use iLauncher for task manager for now.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
No, personally I prefer official HTC releases, so I can be sure what has been done on the resource.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henrik.dk:
Point taken. I actually flashed back to your release again. Quite happy except that feel like using a too old release. :-)

One issue(?) I have is related to the album. When taking the picture, the screen is in landscape mode and when displaying the picture, it is in portrait mode. Looks like for other cooked rom, the screen will rotate automatically using g-sensor.

Any idea? Thanks.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
What program are you using? I haven't installed HTC Album, nor have I configured any g sensor support.

Personally I'm using Gyrator, you can do so for yourself or try some of the several other applications around here.

Its not that old at all. My device is running smooth for months now, so why should I change anything about it by experimenting with some inofficial sources? In most cases its just about getting the highest number in the "About" screen, and thats not what I'm interested in, therefore I will wait until there will be another official resource available.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henrik.dk:
Hi johnpatcher,

It is the picture viewer in the camera. I thought that it was the htc album.

I will install gyrator. Thanks for the information.

As for the revision number, I know the feeling is not rational. But that is just human tendancy. (Maybe just mine.):)

Again thank you very much for your ROM.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Nope, its just a kind of link to the internal picture viewer.

Personally I use it very intensively, my device is suspenden when turned with the display down for instance.

I'm a fan of rationality, so numbers aren't that important for me at all.

You repeated yourself often enough, didn't you :).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Nitrius:
Interesting rom, think i gonna give it a try, though got a question. If i miss some of the standard apps that is included in the official rom from HTC, is there a place where i can get this separated and install them myself? If yes, where?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Of course there is. I'm offering some of the applications in the second post, others can be found in the forums.

If you are missing something, just tell me about it, I will try to make a cab right then.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Nitrius:
Atm am not missing anything, there is just one thing am wondering about, the arrow in the upper right corner, where you could close and switch between programs that where running. Where have that gone?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] chris5304:
That's the HTC Task Manager. I wouldn't bother with it but use WKtask instead (cab attached), it is much more flexible.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Personally I'm using iLauncher, but there is a whole bunch of applications doing excactly the same job, so you can try them and use your favorite one then.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Ok, finally I managed it to release a new version, 2.3. Any information about this new version can be found in the first post :).

Have fun with it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henrik.dk:
Great you cooked the latest ROM. Sometimes version number matters as the user feels a lot better. That is why MS goes from XP to vista ... win7. :)

What kind of application could be a good substition of the VoiceRecorder you removed

Thanks.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
I don't even know what the VoiceRecorder is about :), but I guess Resco Audio Recorder or Vito AudioNotes could be a good replacement.

Microsoft has changed more than just version numbers on their way from XP over Vista to Windows Seven. I haven't noticed any difference from 21042 to 21051, but nevertheless its up to date now ;).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Nitrius:
Updates are always welcome, gonna give this new version a spin =)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henrik.dk:
Has just flashed to this release. Everything is perfect. The one with real windows mobile taste. Thanks.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Unfortunately there are just some people, who like this :(.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henrik.dk:
I have to admit at the beginning when I tried this ROM I am in doubt of the quality since not that many people were discussing it.

But the fact is that this rom is so stable, fast and every piece of it is made with careful thought. The consistent icon/interface make it feel like an official release.

Maybe barebone is not a good promotion name as it indicates that the cooker just removed something from the official rom.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
I believe that old school power users actually like this John.

The lack of posts inside a thread does not mean that people don't like it. It's just the lack of real problems that make people stay away from here.

Will definitly test this updated version!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
This is certainly true, as I would call myself a oldschool user ;). Dealing with Windows Mobile since years and have an application for everything I need.

Yes, also true.

You're welcome.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Again a perfect rom!

Works also fine with Opera 9.7. Thanks......!!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Any reason why it shouldn't :)?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dusty_nz:
Internet via USB

Version 2.2

It seems that internet via USB does not work. I have setup under connections for internet access when plugged in via USB

I have also ticked the prompt to choose.

Neither seem to work. Has that been addressed in 2.3?

I only seem to get an Activesync connection but no interenet. Has worked fine with prev roms.

Thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
What do you mean by that? Do you want to connect to the internet through your device, or vice versa? Internet through ActiveSync works just fine for me. I haven't tested the other way yet.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dusty_nz:
Internet through the device

Ideally under settings (USB to PC) you set "Internet Sharing (Use phone as modem)

When you plug the modem into your PC it is seen as an internet connection.

You can then surf the web on your PC. Great for traveling.

Flashed with 2.3 last night and it has the same problem.

There is also a little tick box saying to choice the USB connection type when connecting. That does not prompt either.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
I can confirm this issue, don't know the reason though. Will try to fix it in the next days. Finally there is a bug :).

No, that hasn't worked, but in previous releases it was possible to hide this option. Unfortunately it isn't possible with the new OEM package any more :(.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dusty_nz:
Little progress

I installed the HTC usb2PC app and it now prompts when I connect the USB.

I will see if it now creates an internet connection..........

Success

Now I am finishing this post over the phone.

HTC driver has fixed this funtionality. When I selected internet sharing it lauched the Internet Sharing app.

Step backwards as far as a lite rom goes but it works. Can't complain.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Ok, after playing around with it I realized that it works just fine.

The only confusing thing about it is the option within "USB to PC". You have to forgot about it, I will remove this option in the upcoming version.

In order to use your device as modem you have to use the application "Internet Sharing" in "Programs". This works just fine. I will consider to move the link of it to the Connection tab, but this isn't as important at all.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
I've just realesed version 2.4. You'll find a changelog in the second post, whereas the available cabs have been moved to post 3.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jasonrabbit:
not working

hi JohnPatcher

sorry but the like for 2.4 is not working so unable to download

thanks for all your hard work building great clean roms
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Fixed it, messed something up with the BBTags :(.

Thanks.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jasonrabbit:
Many thanks link now working
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henrik.dk:
Great. Thank you for the new ROM.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mentox:
Thanks :))

This is the greatest ROM ever! Thank you very much johnpatcher! Fast, Stable... One word: working! :) Just to mention 2 free programs, that suits perfectly with this ROM:

PDC (http://project.ionized.googlepages.com/pdc) and

WkTask (http://soft.photoracer.net/docs/wktask_en.html)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Thanks a lot!

Personally I'm using iLauncher, but WkTask is certainly a good alternative (maybe even the better one).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henrik.dk:
Hi johnpatcher,

Is there any chance to get the picture viewer (click the view button after taking the picture) work the same way as the official HTC rom does?

The picture is taking in landscape mode and but viewed in portrait mode, which makes the picture hardly readable.

I tend to not to use gryator you recommend just for this purpose. Thanks.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
You just need to install HTC Album, you'll find many versions of it floating around the forums, it seems that this is the latest one.

Personally I'm using Resco Picture Viewer for this :p.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henrik.dk:
Thanks for the help. Unfortunately installation failed. Could be due to different device.

Picture Viewer might be a good one. But it is more handy to click the button from the camera interface to view what has been taken.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jasonrabbit:
album

hi

i also have been trying to get an album to work with this rom have tried 2or3, latest being HTC Album_v_3.0.1911.1826 all seem to install but none work, they load pics then freeze so you can't open any pics to veiw.

any help please
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henrik.dk:
Just flashed to 2.4 version. one minor issue is that the version number showed when flashing is still 2.3 (From image version xxx to image version 2.3), which I had to download once again to insure that I am dowanloding the right one.

Htc usbtopc pop up doesn't pop up automatically. I have to mark the option (ask connection ....). then I don't have problem to connect to internet. But still I have problem with mobile device center. When internet connection is disabled, it simply cannot be synced. no connection at all.

Any ideas on that? Thanks.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henrik.dk:
How about the "Help make windows mobile better" notification?

Just hate microsoft to disturb me.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Ok, I will try to make a cab for you, have to look at the OEM package ...

What do you mean? It only opens once, and is deactivated by default. Will have to look how to deactive this notification completely.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
HTC UsbToPC isn't included in my ROM, so that can't be the matter. The option to ask for connection type after connection is not working, unfortunately with the new OEM it is not possible to remove it any more, so you have just to ignore it.

The Internet connection works just fine for me without any software installed.

I'm not using Windows Vista, but Microsoft XP with ActiveSync. Everything works fine here. I haven't changed anything about ActiveSync or any drivers, so maybe there is something wrong with your host PC?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henrik.dk:
For 2.3 version, I installed usbtopc and it will popped up as expected when usb connected. For 2.4, I need to mark the option "to ask for connection type" to have it popped up.

The internet connection is fine. Just cannot do mormal sync.

I will reboot my PC to see whether something there is stuck.

Everything works fine with 2.3 version.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bugblatter:
I sounds like the same issue I and many other Vista users have encountered. Easiest solution I've found is to tell AS to connect via Bluetooth.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henrik.dk:
Have just reinstalled the mobile device center and everything works now.

Seems like this option is for usbtopc application.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jasonrabbit:
Album Cab

Thanks JohnPatcher

will wait for your Album cab
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Unfortunately it isn't that easy :(. Will have to look up the issues as soon as I got some free time.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Ok, after playing around with the available HTC Album cabs I realized that they work just fine ;).

I used this cab, and patched it to fit the WVGA screen using these files.

Maybe, you should try it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jasonrabbit:
Album Working

hi JohnPatcher

YOUR THE MAN

Album now works

thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henrik.dk:
You are the COOKER.

Will give it a try. Mind adding this functionality to you ROM (future release)?

Would like to hear your point on this?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
No, sorry, I'm quite happy with the "normal" picture browser, and don't want to add anything that isn't necessary at all. You can either add it on your own, or use the cabs provided above (Consider to make use of user customization), so it will install automatically.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henrik.dk:
It is perfectly ok. I have just tried and found that album doesn't work well.

phone & picture is actually the most frequently used functions for me on HD.

other lite version doesn't have htc dialer. yours don't have the album.

that might be the life, never&ever as expected.

:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Then you have to start your own ROMs ;).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henrik.dk:
My own rom might be buggy. Has something unexpected. :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Just extract my ROM, add the Album OEM package and re-cook it. Nothing special at all.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henrik.dk:
I did make mort script for the album hack. But found that the album didn't work well.

Indeed I have just flashed to htc stock rom and it seems to be pretty OK.

What I want to get are:

#1. Remove the htc task manager

#2. Get the classic start menu back (as yours)

#3. Get the classic pop up menu back (as yours)

Do you have answers for these? Thank you.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Nothing else than cooking your own ROM ;).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jasonrabbit:
2.5 sync error

hi john

sorry but i'm having problems with 2.5 will not sync, get a sync error as soon as WMDC pops up and a red X sync error
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] TheNose:
Great concept! Any chance of doing this for winmo 6.5? Or do you think onkolog already filled this gap? ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Sorry, for that, have done something wrong. I've updated the 2.5 version as it only contains only this fix.

I don't think that onkolog has filled this gap, as his ROMs are protected, so you can't change anything :(. But, to be honest, I'm not interested in WM 6.5 so far, maybe when there will be some kind of official release.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] TheNose:
I was sceptic at first on 6.5, but the new titanium stuff is really working well. Since your 6.1 release is as good as done, maybe 6.5 will give you a new challenge? ;)

I didn't know there were so many protected roms btw, the time of developing together has passed?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Yeah, but there are still important plugins missing for me.

Almost all ROMs are protected. Only mine and panosha's aren't.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henrik.dk:
Great to see the version number is rising. Thanks for your efforts.

It might be a stupid question: If the nbh file is provided, why the rom is still called protected? What does protection mean?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
You can't extract the nbh file using the kitchen, as (normally) all dsm files are removed, so you don't get any packages.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] core7x:
john .. can u comfirm with me about battery issue on barebone 2.5 ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Which battery issue?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] core7x:
mean high drain or not .. a lot of rom talk about battery usage
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
No, my ROM isn't draining the battery higher than any other one. There may be applications, which can be responsible for that, but there aren't any included in my ROM.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] core7x:
thanks john... im love it
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
What for :D? Telling you that there is no "battery issue" isn't something you have to thank me for.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] core7x:
im mean thanks for information :P
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] chris5304:
There is a good thread on "battery problems blackstone" (search this forum). Lots of suggestions for improving battery usage, main one for me has been to switch off (untick) auto backlight (under Power, Backlight). This has had a dramatic effect. Otherwise this ROM will be as good as any and better than those with lots of applications pre-loaded. If you load your applications one at a time you should find out which ones are draining the battery, then its your choise whether to leave them on or not.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Duskfall:
Thank you and your beta testers for making this rom.Keep up the good work :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
My point is: Not the ROM is draining the battery, but the applications, so a ROM itself can't be a battery drainer ...

Actually there are no beta testers ;).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henrik.dk:
Yourself;)

You can be a father at the same time be a son, two roles in such a contradiction:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] core7x:
nice john this rom..

perfect !!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
But I'm not testing my ROMs, I just release them :D

Thanks ;).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Ok, finally I've decided to play around with Windows Mobile 6.5. I've released my ROM, called Geranium, which is an analogon to this Barebone ROM, but running Windows Mobile 6.5.

You'll find it here.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] core7x:
john....i just need this stuff

ConnectionSetup (including DB)

the cab that have been provide is not working in 1st page
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Are you sure about that? It works just fine for me, consider that you have to soft-reset your device, after installing the cab.