yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] stylez:
Sounds like a Q&A to me...

Please use the appropriate sub forum thread...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] amnya:
I believe the subject IS appropriate :S And i believe am posting at the correct location as well! :S

Agele had his thread closed here by our request, so am creating this one so we find solutions to this problem. Many people using both applications listed above have a problem and we need experts from both programs to see if they can do something about it. Its such a shame dumping G-Alarm that easy.

Cheers
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] deuzeff:
That would be because you didn't notice that there is a new thread here. Please post there ;), explaining precisely your problem/s. Or best, update your software, as it seems you use an old version :).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] amnya:
Ooops, correct, am sorry about that, how did i miss that one?:S i live on xda lately :S

Cheers and thanx for the link, much appreciated :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Section9:
I think everyone would appreciate if you utilise the search function first before creating new threads.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] amnya:
I did, i missed it, jeez, give ma break people :S
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nir36:
thread closed
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tehseano:
Edit: ****, ok so my phone isn't booting up now..the phone just freezes at the g1 splash logo.

I can still get into recovery console/bootloader, can I save my phone? Help!

I do have other theme's in /sdcard/themes/

I don't know if I can delete the current update.zip in my root and move one of them to the root and rename it, then flash that on? Someone please help!

-Ok so, I have the sdk...

-I'm in fastboot mode

-I have the correct driver for the phone, windows picks it up

but when adb doesn't pick up the devices, is there something I need to do to "get started" so to say? I'm trying to install some themes and push the browser.apk into the phone but, im stumped :(
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andonnguyen:
First, you are at the wrong screen. You should not be in fastboot mode in the bootloader for updating themes, you should be in recovery mode.

I suggest you perform a wipe to possibly bring your phone back to normal at least. It can be done by turning off the phone, then pressing and holding the back and home button until you enter recovery mode.

From there press alt + w to wipe the phone.

Then restart by pressing back + home.

Next, before installing the theme, make sure its the correct one for your phone. Check with the author if it was made for RC30 or RC8, and if it is a non-wipe theme, because if it is not, you will be stuck at the Tmobile G1 splash screen (aka be in an indefinite loop) like your current situation.

If you are trying to install browser.apk (im assuming the multitouch browser - please correct me if im wrong) you will need to install JF 1.41 first. By default it will include the multitouch version of browser.apk

Please provide more information about your situation, and keep us posted.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tehseano:
Sorry, I should have provided more information, and explained that the 2nd half of this post was my original post, which was just me asking how to correctly use ADB. I do already have JF 1.41, I upgraded yesterday. It wasn't my first theme I installed either. I was using Vintage War (for the Dream), but it hadn't been updated for 1.41, so I was trying the standalone apk adb push method found in this forum, which is where this post first oriented.

I was in recovery mode for installing themes, I'm using JF 1.41 RC30, with the HardSPL bootloader. Initially after installing the theme it would go blank after the g1 splash, so I had tried to install it again hoping it would fix it, unfortunately my thumb is a bit to fat and I hit alt W instead of S, anyways that is what put me into this infinite loop.

But like I said this wasn't my first time trying to mod the phone, I've had it rooted for a month or so now, and have been keeping up-to-date.

Any more information I can provide, please let me know. My phone is my livelyhood, I need it. So if anyone can help, the sooner would be better. Either way I am entirely greatful for any help anyone can provide. Thanks in advance!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andonnguyen:
It is weird how a wipe caused you to go into an infinite loop. Which apk's did you try to push to your phone?

I would suggest to go without using the theme for now. JesusFreke had pointed out that some themes were causing problems for the new 1.41. update. You should check with the author of the theme to see if its compatible with the new 1.41 (which it should be since RC30 1.3, RC30 1.31, and RC30 1.41 are all compatible)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tehseano:
....How do I get out of the loop. My phone doesn't get passed it. There has to be something I can do in console or recovery or something. I'm really sorry if I'm coming off as rude or demanding but I really need a phone, and I need it right now. I don't know what more I can tell you before someone can finally give me a solution :( (sorry)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Datruesurfer:
1. Download RC29

2. Copy it onto your sdcard

3. Reboot your phone into the SPL with Power+Camera

4. When prompted, press the end key to start the reflash.

Note: this will completely wipe the flash chip on your phone and revert everything back to factory. You will need to re-root your phone and update to JF1.41

Next time, use nandroid to backup before installing themes, etc.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tehseano:
Alright, I'm doing it now. And I did use nandroid and make a backup, no one said anything about how to restore it. Regardless thank you so very much, you are my Savior right now!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Datruesurfer:
That's easy. Just grab a copy of the fastboot utility and the images off your sdcard in the 'nandroid' directory and boot your phone into the SPL. Plug your phone in via usb and press the back button once and you should see "Serial0" change to "FASTBOOT" Then open up a windows command prompt in the location of the exe you downloaded and run:

fastboot flash boot boot.img

fastboot flash system system.img

fastboot flash userdata data.img

fastboot reboot

Your phone will come back up with all of your applications, settings etc from when you did the backup. Keep in mind you need the HardSPL to do this though(look for three androids on skateboards in SPL). The G1 factory bootloader does not support fastboot, only NBH images that come from the factory.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lugiamx:
Hi, my situation is a bit worse:

I have a Dev Phone, upgraded to JFv1.41.

Today, I got the pop up message telling me to do a "system holiday update 2 of 2". I press "Update now" and the phone got reboot. Since then... I could not get through the first screen that has the word "Android" at all, not even to the screen where Android icon is flashing. It just freezes right there.

The only way to turn off is to take out battery. I could not enter recovery mode through pressing Home+Power. One time, the screen actually turned into weird color patterns. Is there anything I can do? consider that I don't have any nandroid back up image at all?

I tried to download the DREAIMG-RC29.zip, unzip and copy to the sdcard, then reboot into the SPL with Power+Camera but nothing happens, just a 4 color screen said "serial0".

Thanks in advance.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] axion68:
Isn't the 4 color screen the standard bootloader that ships with retail G1's (not a dev phone bootloader)?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mannyb:
I had the same problem, almost verbatim. ADP1.1, JFv1.41, ran the Holiday update 1 of 2, no problems, did the 2 of 2 update, got stuck at the flashing Android boot screen. Pulled the battery, rebooted, same thing, waited 2-3 minutes at the flashing screen and was just about to pull the battery again and then all of a sudden the damn thing came to life, the OS loaded up and now everything's working fine. Gave me quite a scare.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chinoman:
ummm actually the fastboot utility wont work for my computer soo what shoud i do.... if anything i need a really good reply something long cause im new to this and my fone wont get off the android sign.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Why have you just hijacked a 5 month old thread? You haven't given use any details either. Fastboot is available for all OS's, it will work on your computer, you just probably don't know how to use it. Please make a new thread in the Q&A section where we can help you out there.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tekkitan:
This should be closed or moved to Q&A.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] safet14:
hey man just unroot ur phone and root it again u soft bricked ur phone its ok
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] safet14:
hey just try to unroot k
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] safet14:
hey if u want me to fix it for u just email me at safetomerbasic@gmail.com and ill help u
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] belsj:
Loudtalks Lite 0.9.0.49 for Windows Mobile UPDATE 20-03-2009

Perhaps something for you guy's.

Push to talk for Winhose Mobile.

What is Loudtalks?

Loudtalks brings voice back to the internet communications. It's a little application, which allows you to talk to your friends or colleagues instantly with a single touch of a button. Think walkie talkie. It's faster than text chat and more convenient than calls. Loudtalks is available for Windows right now, but we are working hard to bring it to other platforms soon, including your mobile phone. Loudtalks is free and will always be free.

Download Loudtalks cab 0.9.0.49

Release notes

Power saving mode (”Turn off screen” menu option). When you select this option device screen turns off, while Loudtalks keeps running so you can receive messages and respond to them using central navigation key.

Vibrate option (if supported by device). It’s turned on by default so when you set your status to Away or Busy your device will vibrate on new messages. You can turn it off in Settings.

Report a problem… menu option. If something doesn’t work you can send us a report right from the software.

(Hint: even if everything works please use it to send your feedback or suggestions!)

Activate contact list, when switching to Loudtalks from other applications. Now you can use push-to-talk without tapping contact list first.

Automatically select the contact, when new conversation starts. That way when you hear “New conversation” alert, even if your screen is turned off, you can respond immediately by simply pressing PTT hardware button.

The website Loudtalks.com will automatically detect Windows Mobile device browser and display a mobile-optimized page so the easiest way to get the new Loudtalks is to visit Loudtalks.com on your device
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] pandaboyy:
Link not found... but it sounds fun

anyway, here is the link according to the reviews, it should work on Touch Pro Sprint

However, as I understand how it work, although it's free, you still have to pay for the internet to get a connection, right? (that isn't cheap man)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] belsj:
Oops sorry

I've updated the link sorry

http://loudtalks.com/LoudtalksSetup.exe

There is one bug:

you cannot add or accept contacts on the ppc you must do that on the windows (PC) version

But then it works great

PC version:

http://loudtalks.com/
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] TomasNM:
What are differencies in comparison with Palringo?

I don't like in PR these things:

- voice history is saved on the server and all the time you want to play them,it is necessary to download it

- you push the button and it starts to recording. after you release it,it sends it,so not realtime. how is it working here?

Anyway,it looks great.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] belsj:
yes it is real time and no downloading messages.

just like walkie talkies
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] TomasNM:
Well,that looks great! I missed an info about history. Is it saving as some file each message or how? And it will be available for Smartphones as well? I am using SP's and it can be very good choice,if it can use all resolutions(QCIF,QVGA,QVGAls) and OS(WM2003 as well).Yes and how about transfer rate? Is GPRS/EDGE enough?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] grafikastudios:
:) Great one!!!

Thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] borce_razor:
Interesting app. I'm testing now :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] belsj:
Yes GPRS is enough. The history (voice messages) you can find them if there is a blue arrow. if you click on the arrow you see the history of that contact. you can play them as much as you like.

Loudtalks is only available for Windows desktop and Windows Mobile based handhelds

It should work fine on devices with 400 MHz+ processor and on Windows Mobile 2003, Windows Mobile 5.0 and Windows Mobile 6.0.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] mark72501:
Anyone tried this out? How well does it work???
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] grmcgee:
Any plans to port Loudtalks client to BlackBerry? My team has a mixture of WinMo and BB devices. I am WinMo, of course, but some of the suits haven't seen the light yet.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] belsj:
Mark, this works very well. Since the update last week it is much better, faster en clearer.

Even now you get an roger beep befor you receive a message on the phone.

Also you can "send"speak to laptops and pc with speakers and a mic.

You can always try and you can speak to your self with the echo user.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] xhypnotik:
I tested the echo, works good. But I cannot delete the messages. None of my buddy's got a Window Mobile. They prefer cheap old fashion flip phones. :D

Add me: xhypnotik

I want to see if it works with people.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] belsj:
Flip Phones? this was used on october 12, 1492 by our Christoffel Columbus, he called europe to say he found some strange people!! hehehehe

I add you on mine flaptop

(HaosOnline)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] xhypnotik:
Lol! They need to make a popup or whatever when someone adds you. I almost didn't see the small flag located on the bottom right hand corner.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] belsj:
yeah it's hard to see, but it is better then last week.

The previous version it wasn't possible to add people or accept people. You had to accept new people on a window pc.

So it will be better, i hope.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] GODZSON:
This is a great app, been usinbg it for two weeks with wifey :) on our Touch Pro's
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] nhvoltagenh:
Hey guys.

take a look here pahhleese

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=480708
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] belsj:
Nice thread :p

Good luck
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] showaco:
So how can I map it to my ptt button? I installed but it didn't map it. I'm using RSW 1.6 rom. Works fine with onscreen button, but would work much better to ptt button. I can make a link to it, but just need to know the parameters.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] scotchua:
Create a shortcut to it, rename the shortcut long_ptt.LNK and then drop that in the windows folder.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] showaco:
What's the link though? I already tried linking to app but if I link to loudtalks.exe then it just opens the app and doesn't start recording/transmitting.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] xhypnotik:
Why create a duplicated thread? Pretty lame I say.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] holdemdogg:
The duplicate thread was made in developing and hacking because its still under developemnet also theres a link there to skinzone where the creaters of loudtalk are taking request and answering questions.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] aikman808:
Extra Sweeeeeet!!!!

I just installed this a few minutes ago and had a few friends add it to their fuze....its sweet, very sweet. Just wish I could remap the PTT button to send/receive.

Can't have everything right from the start.:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] nhvoltagenh:
i totally agree.

We should just leave this in one spot. so that everyone who doesnt have a fuze, touch pro, raphael.. wont have a clue about loudtalks..

good call :rolleyes:

Or maybe... just maybe... i posted it there as everyone pretty much looks there.

hmmm.... :eek:
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Mad Marc:
Just installed it on wifes Artemis (only 201MHz CPU, works fine) and my Touch Pro, funny application!

Right now we are both in one WiFi network (ok, we might shout at each other...), we will test it monday.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Spencer Liang:
I think it's OK in Taiwan, here monthly fee for HSDPA by all telecom is in package, not need to pay more, good stuff !:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] bugsykoosh:
Can anyone comment on the battery drain this causes if you leave it running in the background? I presume it is constantly connected to their servers (like any IM service) and that usually means a pretty big hit.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] cp1md2b:
Battery Drain

First things first. I'm posting in Rapheal Thread but I'm using a Kaiser with this. It definately drains battery. I fell asleep waiting on a friend to connect battery was @ approx 80% within 2-3 hrs of just phone in standby phone was dead. Yesterday before installing this I had gone approx 36hrs with no charge and phone still had approx. 64% remain. I had even talked on it some during the 36hrs.

I'm running Ut 6.5 Rom
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] bugsykoosh:
Thanks - I presumed it would do that...unlike real PTT these apps work like IM apps and stay connected to the server waiting for anything new to hit rather than waking up only when new items arrive and it causes a serious battery drain...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] holdemdogg:
Battery issues

They post at my site skinzone that they are looking into the battery drain issue and will be sending out a new version soon
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] belsj:
Loudtalks UPDATE 09046

Loudtalks 0.9.0.47 for Windows and Windows Mobile

From the original site: loudtalks.com

Changes list

General:

Updated Loudtalks protocol to reduce bandwidth requirements

Fixed not working “Beginning of conversation” sound alert

Added Polish localization

Windows Mobile build:

Added “Register account” function

Added “Add contact” function (to complete the authorization the contact has to add you too)

Added “Change password” function

Automatically attempt to connect to the internet at login

That is — you no longer have to use a PC to start using Loudtalks for Windows Mobile

Download Loudtalks 0.9.0.47 cab
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] theomni:
I know this is no big deal, but is there a way to get that sound to play when you've pressed a button to give an outgoing message? lol

EDIT:

That's the same version I have. I'm testing it right now to see if the outgoing message sound actually works.

Second Edit:

I just reinstalled it. No, the "Begin Conversation Sound" alert does not work.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] belsj:
I see too that the version number is the same :(

But the "send" sound does work. Did you look at the menu/options/ second tab (drum)?

There you can select different sound files.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] theomni:
Yes, I've done that too.

I've tried changing the sound as well.

I don't know if this will help diagnose the problem, but whenever I press the "test" button, it only plays it the first time. After that, it doesn't even work. I don't know why or what to do.

:-\
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] loudtalks:
Hello! It's a great discussion here. Thanks for all kind words about our software and... we want to make it better!

Can you explain the problem with beginning of conversation sound? I tested here and found no issues...

Just to make sure there is no misunderstanding. Right now we have two optional notification sounds. BOTH are activated on incoming message although in different cases.

- "Beginning of conversation" plays when there is a new incoming message after a certain period of inactivity (5 minutes)

- "Incoming message" plays before any incoming message except for the cases, when "Beginning of conversation" plays

There are currently no sounds, which play on sender's side. Do you thing we should add some? Also testing sound in Options should work every time. Do you mean, when you try Test it only plays first time and won't play, when you click it again?

Also we are aware of power issue and looking at the ways to reduce it to the absolute minimum possible.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] belsj:
Hello Alex and welcome on this board.

Nice to have a developer of the "wonderful" piece of software for the windows mobile phones.

I use this software a lot and also for a while and indeed the power issue is a problem. :eek:

Thanx and keep it FREE ;-)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] barry255:
Hi Alex, Great program. The update makes it alot better now that it can run completely independant from a pc.

A few questions, how do you switch back to the default sounds for incoming and outgoing?

Is there any way to setup alerts so if your phone is on vibrate you can instantly know if someone sent you a msg?

Why does it take so long to sign in?

Can you map the talk button to a hardware button?

Thank you.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] loudtalks:
The sounds are installed with the program to Program Files\Loudtalks\snd folder. If you copy them from there to My Documents you could select them in Settings... Unfortunately there is no easier way to restore defaults.

Vibration is not supported. Do you want to use it along with audible alerts or in some other case (i.e. receiving a message in Away / Busy mode)?

How long does it take to sign in for you? Around 10 seconds is normal and that's the price we pay for our highly scalable p2p architecture.

Central navigation button works as PTT, there is no way to redefine it. Btw which button you wanted to use?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Mad Marc:
The american AT&T Fuze has got a PTT-Button wich would be perfect for this app.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] barry255:
Thanks for the quick replies.

You're right on the TP there's no side button to use but sometimes I find my finger really digging into the screen on a long conversation.

It's really no big deal.

The advantage of alerts would be when you're in a meeting and don't want a voice to suddenly squack from the phone you would get an alert that someone sent you a msg. (like palringo, the problem with palringo is the delay)

Thanks again for a great FREE program.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] loudtalks:
On this device the round hardware button at the bottom (side?) of the screen should work as PTT -- did you try it?

Added vibrate alert function to our list, thanks for the suggestion!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] barry255:
Wow I never thought to use the round button, thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] KD8DNS:
Im going to start a trend. my username for loudtalks is kd8dns.

Question, is there anyway to leave the program running idle on the ppc.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] loudtalks:
The most recent version will keep running until you manually turn the device off (or exit the app explicitly). As a part of power management optimization we are researching the "unattended" mode to enable it running after you press the turn off button too. In fact power-management functions are vendor-dependent so chances are that your device (HTC Touch Pro?) already uses unattended mode instead of suspend and in that case Loudtalks will keep running in the background. We don't have it here to test but probably someone in this thread could verify it?