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[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] CLShortFuse:
I don't see why GPSToolPro would get fixes faster. It could all placebo effect. I simply use the GPSID as Microsoft recommends you to do it. It shouldn't be anything amazingly different.

I'll see what I can do with DeviceIOControl and hopefully work up to getting AGPS working with Google servers. The absolute final solution is rewriting the GPS driver to use Google.

OH WAIT, I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING!

Why not make the HTC AGPS settings point to 127.0.0.1 (on the device) and run a TCP server on a local port that listens for requests and responds with Google's AGPS info. THAT COULD WORK!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] fourcc:
sounds good!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] fourcc:
some comments about this tool and other gps related tools.

GPStoolpro, produce very quick fixes for me (10-15 seconds) in cold start.

The problem is that this tool doesn't seem to kick Tomtom or any other gps SW i have in my Touch Pro. If i launch tomtom or GPS test after getting a fix with gpstoolpro, they wait looooong until they get a fix.

it doens't happen with GPS test, if i get a fix with this gps test, usually in 30-60 seconds, and then launch tomtom, then i have a quick fix into Tomtom too becasue GPS test seems to kick tomtom to have its own fix.

I don't use HTC GPS tool because it doesn't help me get quick fixes with it.

if i use GPS today, it usually gets a very quick fix with 20-30 seconds, but this time, this tool also kicks tomtom and any other tool like gps test to have very quick fixes when launching them after getting a fix using gpstoday.

Conclusion: GPSTOOLPRO & Gpstoday let me get very quick fixes but only the second one help the other SW like tomtom to have its own quick fix.

Why GPStoolpro doesn't help tomtom to have its own quick fix?

What can we do?

any other experiences with gpstoolpro by other users can confirm my cases?

it is a pity, i would like that gpstoolpro gps fixes kick tomtom to get its own gps fix, but it doesn't.

Any comments by other gpstoolpro users?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] CLShortFuse:
Let me explain how GPSID works. ID stands for intermediate driver. Instead of a program working like this:

.X...........Y...............Z

APP => COMM => GPSDevice

The COMM port only allows one connection (X) but GPSID acts as an intermediate (the I in GPSID) for your applications.

.W

APP \ .....X.............Y..............Z

APP => GPSID => COMM => GPSDevice

APP /

The question is, how is TomTom reading the GPS device? If TomTom is using GPSID then you should see the benefit. You can even keep GPSToolPro open while you start TomTom and the fix should be immediate once you open the program. Then switch out and close GPSToolPro.

TomTom can also be directly trying to access the COMM port. If this is the case, when you try to close TomTom, it might kill GPSToolPro's GPS connection. GPSToolPro does not open it again automatically. A popup will appear saying "GPS not opened." or another error message.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] fourcc:
thanks for the explanation but...

i yet have gpstoolpro open (& gps open too with a several satellites fix of course) when launching tomtom, but this doesn't help to speed tomtom gps fix at all. And as i've said before, other tools such as gps test & gpstoday get fixes and help tomtom to speed its own fix. so? i don't understand.

and no, when launching tomtom, it doesn't kill gpstoolpro gps connection. gpstoolpro continues running perfect without loosing its fixes.

i would like to know other users experiences with this tool.

it is only me who doesn't get tomtom gps fixes kicked by gpstoolpro ,or everybody experiences the same? and you CLShortFuse, are your tomtom gps fixes speed by gpstoolpro?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] CLShortFuse:
My question was whether TomTom kills GPSTooPro's GPS connection when you close TomTom, not when you open it. If GPSToolPro has a GPS fix, then the GPSID has a GPS fix. GPS fixes are shared by GPSID. I believe Google Maps uses GPSID. If when you open TomTom, it doesn't have a GPS fix immediately, then TomTom isn't using GPSID, which it should. It's doing it's own thing. This probably explains why it has a 4-5 second speed lag. Da_G says the Comm port lag is 1 second, not 4-5. TomTom's WinMo GPS code must be poorly written. That could help explain why you're not getting an immediate fix. Not fully explain, but helps. I'll look into it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] fourcc:
sorry, i misunderstood you. tomorrow morning i will check if tomtom, when closed, it breaks gpstoolpro gps connection too.

So the conclusion, if i don't get a quick fix in tomtom after having one in gpstoolpro, is that tomtom isn't using GPSID. ok. but what about gps test or gpstoday? they kick tomtom gps fixes!

I would like to know if their tomtom gps fixes is getting kicked by gpstoolpro or not? maybe there is something wrong with my device/setup
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] CLShortFuse:
TomTom does use GPSID and I get a fix immediately after opening it while keeping GPSToolPro open. Make sure you have TomTom configured to user "Internal GPS Device" not Other. Also I'm using 7.910.9815
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] fourcc:
strange because i have exactly the same configuration in Tomtom than you. tomorrow i will test it again. But today what i've explained is what i've exactly experienced.

i will keep you tunned about it.

could the reason be that i've modified my gps related entries according to what Da-G & mindfrost has said that is better to eliminate the gps lag?

and i've also removed the Flags=2 value in HKLM\Drivers\Builtin\GPSID because it seems that it speeds gps fix times.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] fourcc:
I assume a fix in gpstoolpro is when i have lat & long values showing moving numbers right?

and X/N satellites, and several of them in the right down part of the tool, right?

edit: i answer myself, i'm right with my interpretation of what's a fix inside gpstoolpro
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] da_jojo:
just a little addition..

when one turns of all the logging and turn on the agps (adv.config tool3.3) and delete the files (windows dir and htc log dir and/or the dir which it pointed at) then reset the device. update the quickgps and start tomtom and see what happens.

to shortfuse : it be best to turn of all logging. it seems things conflicting with direct com-port usage and the normal windows way. It take a cold start as it probably resets the gps-device when switching between both. it would also be nice to have a nmea stream output. Keeping the gps on all the time will drain battery on a major level so not really wise, a s3 state would be better so it can resume from standbye while google-gps data is providing data in the meanwhile.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] CLShortFuse:
You don't need to turn on the GPS to get a Google's approximation. Also, turning on a device requires more power than keeping it on. If the read intervals are too short then it's counter productive. I read every 1 second.

I probably could put an option to turn on the device, read, then turn off.

It's actually how Microsoft recommends you doing it, but at 1 second, what's the point?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] paulyluca:
This tool locks better and quicker then GPS Test. Any news regarding a update? Maybew some cosmetic changes and a proper icon?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] fourcc:
yes, it is the fastest gps kicker utility around. I don't mind the cosmetic changes but i would like to see improvements in new releases such as the agps data injected that CLShortFuse commented it a while ago.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] paulyluca:
Yeahh. That too:D. but I thought I'll just bring this nice little app. back into attention, and back up to the first page, where it belongs. i use it in stead of GPS Test to cold-start my GPS. Sometimes, GPS Test fails to get a fix, but GPS Tool pro never failed.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Peaster111:
v0.03 Install CAB

CLShortFuse:

I agree with the sentiments of the others.. the best GPS tool around.

I hope you don't mind.. I cab'd up v0.03 of your app and made an program icon. The CAB gives you all the credit. I hope you don't mind. Maybe your app will get more attention with an easy install and a "fancy" icon.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Da_G:
Just thought i'd bump this thread as it seems with the newest AT&T Leaked ROM (5.08) there's a little tiny fix on the changelog that slipped largely under the radar (P4600 fails NI-SUPL)

Well, i've tested it quite a few times now, and i'm confident to say, AGPS finally frickin works!

Sub-15 sec cold start fixes, indoors with terrible signal and no quickgps data :)

I think that'll be relevant to anyone interested in this thread.. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] fourcc:
Thanks a lot Da_G for keeping us tunned about it. Do you know for any HTC-made ROM with this improvement on it?

thanks

meanwhile i will take a look at Raphael's Rom development forum...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Peaster111:
Sweeeeet! Any chance in getting the "tiny fix" standalone. I'd hate to reflash unless I have too.

Thanks for the update!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] :
GPStoolPro Works With Tomtom 7

I have TomTom7 and when i open GPStoolPro it actually works withing 5 sec.

If you want a gps fix from GPStoolpro this is what you should do.

Open yourTomtom Navigator and click on the satellite symbol, then click on the set up of your GPS, use A NMEA OUtput->baudrate between 4800 en 9600 works fine. I use 9600 then choose a COm port, for example i use Comport 2 and then click okey.

After this set up open GPStoolpro and then your TomTom and it will work like a charm.

I hope this will help

I use
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] fr0st420:
Great Program. Just found out about it from the thread being bumped up. I get a lock within seconds when I use it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Loomer:
Hi All. Any chanses to have this tool working as Quick GPS by HTC (I mean an unattended mode - no user action needed). Thanks a lot.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] fourcc:
gpstoday would give to you what you ask and it works perfect, quick and efficient to get unattended periodic gps fixes that will kick your GPS tools when manually launched.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stefano.scagliarini:
I was trying to flash the official wm6.1 rom on my h3g branded kaiser with the "all-inclusive" unlocker (kaiserunlocker.exe, the polaris ported one...); something must ran wrong because i got the pda stuck into the tri-color screen with te following test "KAIS130-SPL-1.94.0000 CPLD-8 RUUNBH"

what I can do now? i found the .raw files of the original rom,to try to reprocess everything from the beginning..

what's the shortest and easyest way to get back my tytn II alive?? :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] denco7:
Ah................ maybe you could look up at the "stuck in bootloader " sticky at the top of this forum, That is what it is there for ;)
[Touch HD General] daemonus:
I have the following problem with my HTC Touch HD. Since yesterday after i transfered 2 video files and a few pictures, when i connect it through USB, the computer doesn''t detect HTC anymore (nor syncing nor file transfer). Even the Bluetooth syncing does not work. I performed several soft and hard resets, and it seems it;s getting worse after every reset.

I bought the phone 2 weeks ago, after i sold my Apple iPhone 3G 8GB. As we speak, i kind of regret i did that...any advise for me ?

I forgot to mention: when i plug the uSB cable, the device goes recharging.
[Touch HD General] bigdish:
Have you tried booting your pc ?

Also try unchecking Settings/connections/Usb to Pc/ "enable faster data synchronization"

r

Andrew
[Touch HD General] hrcro:
What cable do you use? I had similar problems with non original (asus) usb cable.
[Touch HD General] daemonus:
greetings everybody..

1) i tried what you said several times, no result.

2) i get same results with the original and the other cables..

3) i noticed one thing . . . if i connect the device to a computer that i never conected before the device, it launches active sync....and Active Sync just wont interact with my device.
[Touch HD General] Insaneboy:
Did you try reinstalling ActiveSync on your PC?
[Touch HD General] daemonus:
yes i tried....same result. Do you think a change of ROM would solve that ?

Now, even a syncronisation using bluetooth is almost impossible, since i cant pair the computer and the device. Damn, it's like a virus or something.

stupid thought:

Impossible since i cannot connect using USB. Sorry !
[Touch HD General] SLVRstone:
I too had problems with my PC not recognizing the HD. Found out that it was a problem with my firewall and anti-virus. I adjusted anti-virus settings to allow active sync to pass through and have had no problems after that.

HTC also recommends going to Start --> Settings --> Connection tab --> USB to PC and deselect the checkbox for "Enable faster data sync"

For device recharging when plugged in to USB : go to Start --> Settings --> System tab --> Power. here below the battery charge indicator, there is a checkbox. Read the message and check/uncheck as desired.

Hope this helps !!
[Touch HD General] daemonus:
i thought one potential source for my problem would be the antivirus, but i disabled firewall (eset at work and symantec end point protection at home) and no result what so ever.

I cand figure a way to sync the device even with the bluetooth since i cannot pair the device and the computer.

I am starting to regret i bought HTC...
[Touch HD General] skywarlker:
Try click the Activesync icon on HD Program, there is a "Option" on the menu, click and see if you could delete all the old connect. If yes, re-establish the connection again to see.....good luck
[Touch HD General] daemonus:
Option menu item is disabled (i performed several hard resets)...:((

Another thing i noticed. I unchecked the box (when connected to USB charge), so now when i plug the usb cable, it wont charge. But, if the device is in stand by (black screen), and i plug the usb cable, it wakes the device up. So, in my mind, i think it is something wrong with the OS, it still "feels" the USB cable, but cannot (for an unknown reason) take the necesary action.

For 4 hrs i try to sync the device with the computer using bluetooth, and i cannot manage to do so.

Is there any way to reinstall ActiveSync on my HTC device ?
[Touch HD General] NLBeev:
My sync problem with HD and my PC with Vista, was solved as follows:

- Uninstall Windows Mobile Device Center

- Reboot and reinstall WMDC

Ton V
[Touch HD General] daemonus:
Tonight i will try to install at home Windows VIsta (at work and at home right now i have XP). I cannot use my phone - no phone number in agenda and it's driving me mad. The phone rings and there are quite a few persons i dont want to talk with..:( HEEEEEELP
[Touch HD General] daemonus:
nobody there to help me ?
[Touch HD General] projection:
If you did a hard reset, and you can connect in drive mode, but can not sync, then I am 99.9% sure that there is nothing wrong with your phone, but that your computer is messed up.

Uninstall all your antiviruses, firewalls, and other bloatware, and see if it works then.
[Touch HD General] Rozenthal:
Just a possible solution, but did you try plugging in your phone into other USB slots on your PC? Are you perhaps trying to sync it through an USB extension cord, or maybe USB hub? I had problems with my PC recognizing the THD if I tried syncing that way. Best results were plugging it directly into the back side of the casing.

The reason I'm asking this is that if you have too many USB devices plugged in, it's possible that the USB voltage drops too low and devices won't connect to the computer.
[Touch HD General] daemonus:
I tried on 5 different computers, all available USB ports.

On a new computer, sometimes on the device screen it shows up Active Sync but that is all, no sync occurs. If i try again on that computer, i get the same result as i get using the computer at home or work.

The device cannot conect as a Disk Drive :(

Is there a way to reinstall Active Sync on HTC ? My guess is that this software is all gone with the wind (even i performed a hard reset). The big question is what the hell happened ? Could be a ROM fault ? I mention i never tried to change ROM, the only software i installed was S2U2 and Core Player.
[Touch HD General] daemonus:
If by monday it wont work, then i'll send it into service (i have warranty). But i hate service :(
[Touch HD General] daemonus:
all out of ideas...
[Touch HD General] daemonus:
Any ideas ?
[Touch HD General] peewee2:
Which items are checked when you go to Settings/connections/Usb to Pc/ on youre phone?

Have you tried to use another memory card (because youre problems started with copying)?
[Touch HD General] polppol:
have u try to delete mobile driver from device manager, unplug and re-plug it again?

>> http://ul.polppol.com/index.php?dir=pdamobiz/pic-touchhd/&file=driver.png
[Touch HD General] daemonus:
connection / settings / usb to pc

ActiveSync (Sync with Outlook) - checked

Enable faster data sync....... - unchecked

Disk drive ... unchecked

Ask me first about......checked

I tried to use my N85's 8GB card and i get same results. :(
[Touch HD General] peewee2:
What happens when you connect your phone?
[Touch HD General] peewee2:
If I uncheck Connections / All Pc's (sorry my phone is dutch) then my phone won't sync. Is yours checked? ('USB)
[Touch HD General] daemonus:
Checked :(

I performed another (i lost count) hard reset with the microSD card out of the device. No result.
[Touch HD General] peewee2:
I have had the same problems on my old iPaq twice. The first time the problem was dust in the usb connector and the second time the usb connector had te be replaced because of extensive use.

Your phone should work fine after a hard reset. I'm afraid it might be time to make use of your service/warrenty.
[Touch HD General] Impunitus:
Just curious. You do know how to perform a hard reset and you're not confusing this with a soft reset, are you?

Cheers,

Rok
[Touch HD General] daemonus:
Hard reset = both vol + and vol - pressed when the device is powered off and a brief touch of power button...

then i follow the instuctions that appear on screen (the first one is Press Volume Up to boot)..
[Touch HD General] patterns:
have you recently flashed a cooked rom? maybe it didnt flash properly?

i had this problem with another htc device.

i - uninstall activesync or windows mobile device manager

- re-installed

and removed firewalls and antivirus, then it worked. if you are using xp im sure its a firewall issue, hence you can still charge

it could be a faulty usb connection on device or usb port as mentioned before. have you tried another computer?
[Touch HD General] sneila:
Setting / Connection / USB To PC

Make sure you have the option

"ask me first about USB connection type ..."

Checked.

Than plug in the cabel, watch the HD screen as it will ask you what connection you want (3 options: acttive sybcs, data, and internet sharing)

(PS: pay attention as this options appear only for about 5 second, when it selects the last choice)

Choose, Disk drive.

Done, you PC should see your device.

PS: also there might be an ancive synch problem too.

I once disable it, the thing asking me about what connection i want, and i also struggled a lot to make it visible on my PC.

I hope it helps.
[Touch HD General] :
Solution:

Try turning off the firewall totally e.g. Windows Firewall or McAfee. I realised that these block ActiveSync in their new incarnations.

Cheers

Hawk
[Touch HD General] projection:
He wants to SYNC! So you have to select the top option, activesync, not "disk drive"....
[Touch HD General] daemonus:
Guys....:) good newz....i installed Windows Vista, and when i plugged the USB cable Active Sync from my device just went up - hey what the hell do you want to do...:) Good news for now..

I'll keep you informed. Wish me luck.
[Touch HD General] daemonus:
Hey guys....here me out

First, i made a backup of my Windows XP system with norton ghost

Second, i formatted the system partition and installed Vista

Third, after instalation of all drivers (except on board sound card), i downloaded Windows Media Device Center (or something like that) - it works only in Vista

I connected my device in Vista - big surprise - ActiveSync on my Blacktone went up asking me what to do. I chose syncronise - the computer software told me it prepares the mobile device to be syncronised....

I restored my initial XP system - well...i plug the USB cable...active sync on my computer pops up (my mobile device does nothing) and syncronises everything...but....as you can see in the attachment pictures, the computer detects a HTC13 device (!!!??????).

So far i am pleased i can at least recover my phone book and emails.

Any ideeas what the hell happened ?
[Touch HD General] daemonus:
It is happening again..
[Touch HD General] mikeycrawford:
I have had this problem also on Vista x64 Ultimate. Sometimes it would activesync, sometimes not. My workaround is to run XP 32 Pro in a VMWare session and this seems to work fine so far.
[Touch HD General] patterns:
vista 64 has quite a few compatability issues with devices and softwares that are older.

i still think the problem here is the firewal or anti-V you are using

try it on another PC

it could be you have a faulty usb port on your HTC
[Touch HD General] daemonus:
let;s asume i have a badass USB on my device (HTC). Right !!! Then, why cant i sincronise using a bluetooth connection ? Every way i want to sync...fails.

The USB slot is not dead - it still charges the Blackstone and....from time to time i manage to synchronise...
[Touch HD General] patterns:
have you tried another PC!!??
[Touch HD General] daemonus:
4 or 5 :( i am all out of ideas
[Touch HD General] patterns:
have you tried flashing new software? you can do this still you know... try flashing a new rom from the sd card, maybe the rom you flashed had bad drivers or something

other thing is i think it could be usb is a bit faulty - i take it you have tried activesync on xp and also WMDM on vista?

try another rom and see 1st

oh also make sure the backlight is ON!!! if you turn off backlight it sleeps the phone sometimes and this disconnects but will still charge
[Touch HD General] daemonus:
i created a Virtual Machine, i set it up with Vista, the USB connection still does not work, and after 4 hours of trying, i managed to sync my HTC using BlueTooth...
[Touch HD General] daemonus:
I'll consider your ideea if

1) Can you teach me how to do a backup of the actual configuration (ROM)

2) Can you teach me how to try a new ROM

Thanks !