yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] Bigdad_1:
Why is this an issue? I fail to see any correlation at all between the equipment used by a professional photographer, and the convenience of a simple 3MP snapshot camera included in your phone. You were given a suggestion that addressed your problem and apparently you were quite upset by it. So, my turn... This IS NOT a 10 - 12 MP Canon, Nikon or Leica! Its to snap a quick shot of something for later reference - an event, a schedule, a location, a photographic note, if you will. The camera in your phone is not the primary device or function of your phone - its an 'added function' that can be effectively used as intended, or complained about by those that can't fully appreciate its capabilities!

Oh, and those professional cameras listed above don't make or receive phone calls, don't have e-mail or voicemail capabilities, don't play my mp3s or videos, can't use wifi to browse the internet or for online banking or for etc., store GBs of data other than pics & video, function as a gps unit, open or edit my Office docs, use text messaging, or play a myriad of games! And yet they cost from $699 to $999 apiece! How do those manufacturers' sleep at night? And you won't find a forum for support anything near as intense and complete as the XDA-Developer's Forum - all for what you can afford to donate!

Now I don't mean to preach, so here's examples: instead of a daily to-do or task list, I can take a quick series of photos to remind me! Pix of ATM card to remind me to go to the bank, of a loaf of bread or carton of milk to remind me to hit the grocery store, of the Suburban's front end to call for an appointment to get the front-end aligned, of the dog to remember his vet appointment, and of a document I need to complete by end-of-business! Those pix are worth a thousand words, and the time it would take to write detailed notes to myself! Then simply delete photos as tasks are completed! Too cool! At the store over lunch and see a new Sony LCD HDTV you like? Take a photo of it, along with the pertinent sales tag info, and research it later at home on the internet! Meet someone you haven't seen in a while? Take a photo to remind yourself to tell the wife that night, with that picture to enhance your tale! Need to match paint for a room in the house with the colors of the furnishings or rugs? Take a series of pictures with you to the hardware store. Take a photo of a suspicious vehicle 'just in case'? An accident, a surprise event, a crime or disaster? You at least have the camera in your phone - its way better than no camera at all. For your 'Keepsake Memories' get a decent camera, complete with a flash!

Hope this helps put things in perspective for you.

BTW, this was a rant - not a discussion or an argument, so keep your opinions to yourself. I've said what I wanted to say!

BigDad_1
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] himalayasplaya:
When I started this thread I did not intend it to go out of control. I was just wondering if anyone knew where to get one or how to make one.

This is more along the lines of what I was looking for, except for the Kaiser instead of the iPhone: http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/snaptureflash-gives-iphone-makeshift-camera-flash
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] WatermelonSlim:
I think a new back cover that has a built in flash would be awesome. If someone makes one, and it works, I'll certainly buy one.

I think about how much I miss my flash on my old phone all the time. That was a huge blunder leaving it off the Kaiser. Even if you never use a flash on your pictures, it was a handy flashlight. But it was certainly nice to have a flash for pictures too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] Flying Kiwi:
Don't worry, the thread isn't 'out of control' you just need to take heed of what kilrah has already posted. The USB port on the Kaiser isn't a host port so it doesn't (and cannot be made to) behave like an ordinary USB port on your PC (well not without some serious electronic redesign work far beyond what we as non phone designer sorts could come up with). Other options must be investigated.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] cdmccul:
Was the USB comment directed at me? I was just wondering if there was a way to trigger the flash 'remotely'.

as for some sort of add on flash, my dad has made several LED units, self contained, that fit in a 3/4 inch copper pipe cap. Mostly made of brass, it includes a switch and is heavy. He used it as a night lite for something like 7 days str8 on a single 2032 battery. Granted, it is not sleak, but it was self contained.

The main problem with a 'flash' is that the camera app wouldn't be able to process the picture any faster (focus on it and make adjustments for light) before snapping it because the camera app wouldn't know that a flash would be coming soon to compensate for a flash... unless we have a camera programer in our midsts? Or, can a camera app be ported from a flash enabled device, or do the OEM flashes stay on as long as a flash is called for, so there is no 'compensation' per se?

I am getting ready to purchase a TyTN II parts phone, I'll have to see what I can do with it. I've got a few ideas up my sleave. Does anyone have what the Proprietary USB B port pin out is, both sides of the tongue?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] himalayasplaya:
if anyone makes this invention i will gladly buy it from them ASAP
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] cdmccul:
Heh, I've started working on it... at this point, I'm not working on making it interface with the camera, it will have an external switch and be something you turn on when you want it, and could also be used as a flashlight to light your way in the dark...

I am also toying with having it light up when ever the camera is in use, but I need to find a dead kaiser (the phone I own, so the phone I'm developing for) in order to work on some sort of interface for automatic operation...

Anybody got a Kaiser with a crushed screen and case that I could tinker with? *grins*
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] pyraxiate:
/agree

I used the flash on my S710 as NIGHT LIGHT all of the time. I think an external flash able to slide in an touch the battery contacts would be cool. Een if you had to turn on the light by a little switch built into the back cover. 5V should be MORE than enough power to light up maybe 3-5 small LED lights. Even if they werent connected to the cam directly, im sure it would help a lot in low light situations. Just my 2 cents :) I like this idea :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] cdmccul:
I am in the process of comunicating with LED suppliers, and will begin mocking something up here in the coming weeks... I'll keep you posted.

A couple of questions for potential users... What is better, to make a cradle to slip the phone into, to make the components fit completely with in the format of the phone now, or to make the phone slightly larger (like an extended battery pack)?

The advantage of a craddle is that it can be put on and removed fairly quickly... Downside is that it would be hardest for me to make... (grins)

The advantage of the lights fitting within the format of the phone now is that you don't have to have something extra, or an extra large phone, to carry around. Perimatly mounted, and ready to go at all times... the down side is reduced performance because of no extra batteries, and possibly fewer LEDs, and the fact that the owner of the phone would possibly have the hardest time installing it.

The advantage of an extended battery type back cover is that you can get extended battery usage (by use of separate batteries for the LEDs), and nice balance between easy on/easy off and size... the downside is that the phone would be slightly larger, and you would have to carry the extra back cover if you didn't always want the phone bigger, but wanted the option for a flash.

The cradle idea would be the most expensive by far, and quite probably out of my reach at this time.

The extended back and original size formate are going to be fairly close in price I have the feeling.

The extended back will probably be the easiest to build, but personally, I'd rather not use that style.

So, what do _YOU_ think?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] stylez:
I think Mag light and all problems solved :p

Seems alot to do for a camera that isn't very good anyway, but good enough for snapshots.............. After all it's not an SLR..............
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] WatermelonSlim:
The best one, in my opinion, would be an entirely new battery cover that had LED lights mounted in it, and was not any bigger than the original battery cover.

Something that is permanently mounted, and basically a part of the phone, and not making the phone any bigger (it's already a brick). Maybe a little larger than the regular battery cover, but not a lot. Hopefully not enough to notice. I'm not worried about battery life as this would only get used for a few minutes every day (at the most).

I don't know if that is even possible, but if it is, I'll take 4 of them.

Nobody ever uses an external GPS receiver, so maybe the stuff could go in right there?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] cdmccul:
Yes, a maglite would work... but I take many photos with my camera when I can't put both hands in position to illuminate the subject and hit the shutter... I go to the car salvage yard alot, and if I can't see a part good enough from my vantage point, I'll hold my phone up and snap a picture from there to see if it is worth digging for, for example.

As for it not being an SLR, MOST digitial cameras are NOT slr... and MOST people do not shell out tons of money for an SLR. If you don't like the camera phone, that's fine... you can carry a second item. For the rest of us, we'd like to improve on a decent useable camera, so we will, Thank you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] cdmccul:
Hehehe, my wife never uses her GPS at all, but I use an antenna adapter from Wilson Electronics along with a mini whip antenna with a magnetic mount... it go from 1-2 bars on a bad day (with TomTom Navigator 6), to a full count of 5 bars... unplug the antenna, and it goes back down, plug it back in, and it bounces back up...

I've looked into using that area, but it really doesn't afford much in the way of space, and I'm not too keen on modifying the original fabric of the phone itself, it just doesn't seem 'right' to me.

Your vote has been tallied.:)
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] Cinamon:
The phone is showing multiple symptoms, even after a hard reset.

1. It is not holding a charge, even after buying a new battery. It charges, but the charge drains quickly.

2. The phone shuts off without warning, even when there is still a charge.

3. The screen occasionally becomes distorted, with lines or blocks of color showing before it shuts down, although sometimes it shuts down without the screen distorting first.

4. Sometimes the phone will not boot up at all. Sometimes it boots up only to the splash screen and then shuts down. Sometimes it boots up past the splash screen but then the screen starts showing lines and the phone shuts down.

5. At times the phone works normally (except for the constant battery drain) for up to 30 minutes at a time.

I don't know if this phone is worth taking to a repair shop or if it just needs to be replaced. Money is tight so I need to make the most economical choice. Does anyone have any idea what might be wrong with it and if it's repairable? :confused:

Thanks for all replies.

Susan
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] cooa99:
some how i dont think its worth repairing.

You can probably pick one off ebay for around £80 and you could probably also sell the old one off on ebay as faulty for say £20, hence an outlay of £60

so your repair costs(i.e labour + parts) assuming phone is fully ok at the end off it all will have to be <= £60 imho

somehow I think u should cut you losses

cooa99
[P3400 ROM Development] JafarJeni:
I have HT7 Phone it bricks during upgrading the SPL because it had WM5 and I went to install WM6 :(

I can boot the Phone in Recovery Mode ( Holding the Camera Button and Boot ). Three Color Screen and I can communicate with the phone through the MTTY but during installing the Update it says ERROR 300

is there anyway to get the phone alive again ?

Thanks for your Help :)

** I have Kaiser and it's not mine , it was belong to my friend and I damaged his phone :(

PS : Phone is out of warranty and there is no service center here , also I can't use the JTAG Method :(
[P3400 ROM Development] go4thomman:
jafer mainly error 300 comes in when you are using wrong rom update utility... atleast in my case...after running spl pgm from phone and mtty program make sure you run the rom update utility inside the spl folder before running the rom update utility inside the rom folder... hope this helps.. and make sure that the rom is for old gene...
[P3400 ROM Development] go4thomman:
which spl its nowing at the tricolor screen now... oref or olipro?
[P3400 ROM Development] go4thomman:
which spl its showing at the tricolor screen now... oref or olipro?
[P3400 ROM Development] JafarJeni:
ONBL 1.10.0000

SPL 1.07.oref

Thank you

Could you please explain more , where to get those files :(

I got Unbricker from here :(

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2784291&postcount=66

Thank you again

Question : when TriColor Launched can I re-flash the original firmware ? i don't know what to do now :(
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
Please look at the stickey, krazy has made quite a good tutorial about flashing etc and has all the tools hyperlinked. LoL
[P3400 ROM Development] JafarJeni:
Hi Thanks but please don't refer me to reads topics , because i've already read all of them

The Phone is HT7 , during the upgrade it bricks , I used the " Orefkov " but it seems it only works for new Phones

Anyway by no I can Boot the Phone in Tri Color Mode but when i try to upgrade a rom it says ERORR 300

is there any way to BOOT the Phone through the SD Card ? I already had the same issue with another phone , I boot the phone with SDCard and it became alive again !!

But I don't know the Instructions for this GENO Crappy Phone :(
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
try removing the SD card and update the ROM. BTW as far as i know oref Is for new Gene. post a query on the right thread and ankit or krazy or any proficient member will definitely help you out. or you may pm basha for help.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] wojnest:
How to diagnose problems with the second camera and speaker?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] MikeChannon:
More info required!!

Tell us more.

Do neither of them work (not at all, sometimes etc) ?

Did the phone get a knock?

What happened prior to the problems?

Have you hard reset?

....... and so on

Did you do any searches on this forum?

Mike
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] himalayasplaya:
I'm using the wm 6.1 att stock rom. I dont like the fact that the battery meter lies to me. Its at 3 battery bars at 50% battery life. Is there any alternatives for this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] anoano:
Try QuickMenu: a powerful today menu replacement with a nice colour battery level icon. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=471292&highlight=quickmenu+2.8
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] stylez:
Batti is well cool it displays a bar @ the top of homescreen and is customizable for colour and size etc

http://freewareppc.com/utilities/batti.shtml
[Sable] ted973:
Hey,guys!Some Pic will show u the WM6.5,but only the chs!My english is poor!

So let pictures speak~

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URL to more Pic:http://www.ppchome.net/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=31394&extra=page=1
[Sable] Zoltair Wright:
这些图片好像都是假的。那个人的Photoshop功夫并不强。

(Or in English:)

These are super ****ing fake.
[Sable] 苏州草脚:
不知道别乱说！

去pdafans看看先！
[Sable] explorerteam:
so great news and so many friends already got it.

here is the website:

http://bbs.pdafans.com/viewthread.php?tid=691430&highlight=6.5
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Furious911:
Hey guys, I have a coworker who has a "leftover" e-mail icon in TF3D from a restore. Basically he had 2 e-mails, Comcast and Outlook, then on a restore the Outlook one worked, but the icon for the Comcast , looked like it worked but when you clicked the Inbox (or e-mail) it didn't open anything and went to account setup, so he created a new Comcast account, and that one works but the old icon for the broken Comcast is still there, how do we get rid of that?

Thanks fellas!!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] A.M. Terlouw:
Can somebody help me to find icons for the call history. The icons looks like HTC Diamond or a HTC Touch Pro. Thank you!
[HTC Excalibur] davewaave:
Help, sms pack loads contacts but when try to filter categories it refuses. It used to work but now won't. Any ideas? Any place to download it and re-install. Using Ricky v24 vanilla and don't want to reinstall whole rom. Thanks all.
[HTC Vox] frauhottelmann:
Windows Mobile 6.1 Lite v0.5

Download from Media Fire (you'll need both parts)

The cold boot (first one after flash) takes long - do NOT abort it!
​

CE OS 5.2.20262 (Build 20282.1.3.6)

Things removed:

Office

Adobe Flash

Adobe Reader

RSS Hub

Keep Recordin'

Games

Windows Live

Welcome Center

Adobe Reader

HTC Audio Manager

HTC Album

HTC Sliding Panel

VoIP

Any third party apps that are in the Rose ROM

Still in ROM:

DotNET CF 3.5

Comm Manager

Custom Shortcuts (VolUp & VolDown)

Animated Startup and Shutdown Screens

Reboot Shortcut

Jbed Java (Esmertec 20081002_2_1)

CHome Config

Connection Setup

Vox eT9 (English and German, English keyboard layout, more here-scroll down a bit - thanks sblop)

Reg-tweaks:

Infinite timeout for homescreen

No sound on key press

No system sounds by default

Set Wifi to Best Performance

Energy Saving

Known Bugs:

Encryption doesn't work

Changes to v0.41:
[HTC Vox] mohanidno:
Thanks frauhottelmann for your great rom !
[HTC Vox] pg2k6:
uploaded it to rapidshare.com

http://rapidshare.com/files/187224077/litev05.zip

both parts included
[HTC Vox] frauhottelmann:
Thanks for the mirror, but if you don't have to download from rapidshare please download it from Media Fire so that I can keep track of the downloads!
[HTC Vox] skchattha:
frauhottelmann,

Is this ROM with fast scrolling and battery friendly? if yes, i will try it for sure. :)
[HTC Vox] frauhottelmann:
It is battery friendly, not OC'd and the reg tweaks.

It should scroll as fast as Rose v0.4! So pretty fast in any explorer other then M$-Explorer^^
[HTC Vox] skchattha:
frauhottelmann,

I am flashing your ROM, its taking too much time stuck at "Installing Menu_Operation.xml..." how much time does it take? is it normal?

Never had such experience with any ROM :confused:
[HTC Vox] frauhottelmann:
It really does take that long^^

After the cold boot this doesn't happen any more
[HTC Vox] BoardDWorld:
Would it be possible to add the cabs to install the apps we want. Personally I think stripping the rom clean is a great idea but in the case of vital and very functional apps like the HTC Album & HTC Sliding Panel, they should remain. I'm personally sticking with your Rose v0.4. I haven't had any sim errors on this like v0.3 and it's been going strong for more than a month.

In regards to the missed call and unread message notifier I asked about in another thread I resolved it by installing MortScript and copying over Dr. Gonzos scripts to the correct folders. This notifier is the most simplistic and effective of it's kind (and totally free unlike Don't Forget). If anyone wants it I'll upload the files and post a link.

Again a "big thanks" for all your contributions.
[HTC Vox] obscurespectre:
cool :) gonna flash this one as soon as my vox gets back from the service centre
[HTC Vox] syserror:
Mediafire not working (again)...
[Android Themes] Stericson:
Note, this will not work if your SDK or the path that you place this in has any spaces in the dir name!

An Example of this is c:\users\Nikki and Stephen\sdk\tools

Try to put the SDK and the contents of the zip in a dir where the names are all together and not like the one above.

Ok, so I have made a batch file that will automate the entire process of setting up to use the signing tool made by JF. This batch file will set the CLASSPATH, set the PATH, install the registries, let you sign the files manually, and let you push/pull files to the phone.

In order to use this you should have downloaded the sdk already. Simply extract all of the files into the tools dir of your sdk, and run autosign.bat follow the instructions and go through the options one by one, starting with 1 working through 4. You can however, put the contents of this zip anywhere on your computer and it will work. It is just better to put them into the tools dir of your SDK. Especially for the consideration of future versions.

Enjoy,

Stericson

Autosign .zip: http://www.DroidBin.com/Androidstuff/signing.zip
[Android Themes] missxoash:
You are one hard working, man. ;)

Thanks.
[Android Themes] korndub:
awesome sir! looking foward to using this great tool....in a virtual machine...with windows xp.....on my mac.....ha ha
[Android Themes] Stericson:
Please let me know how it works. It works for me, but there are so many different computer configurations. This is also only tested and expected to work for xp and vista....I don't know if it will work for other o/s versions.

Stericson
[Android Themes] korndub:
will give it a whirl as soon as my cupcake is done baking. :)
[Android Themes] jdwme:
Doesn't work for me on vista, running a 64bit machine, I think it has something to do with how my computer is set up though because of the error message I get
[Android Themes] Stericson:
can you be specific as too the error message and what you are doing when it happens?

Stericson
[Android Themes] brandenk:
This is badass! Ive been playing with it this morning and all I can say is........

Now no one has an excuse to not be able to create their own theme! :D
[Android Themes] jdwme:
yeah, it's a great tool, thanks for the help in getting it all work stericson.
[Android Themes] tinpusher1:
Thanks for the autosign batch. It seems like it would make things easier. Now if I could just get it to work....

Here is the error I am getting when running it. (Either via right click or manually through the bat file)

**************

Signing File!

**************

Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: Bad version number in .class file

at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method)

at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source)

at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source)

at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source)

at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$100(Unknown Source)

at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)

at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)

at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(Unknown Source)

I have it installed in my c:\and_sdk\tools\ folder

Any ideas?

EDIT: Updating Java to most recent version fixed the problem.

Thanks!