yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Accessories] pim:
I received my htc touch hd some days ago and I really like it.

But I just saw that the HTC Touch pro has a TV out and the hd not. That's really strange ...

Tv out is the only thing missing on the HD. I would really love it. I could put some divx on my phone when going on vacations and simply plug my phone in the tv of any hotel in the world to enjoy movies.

According to some sites, the HD won't be able to tv out ...

Maybe you guys know if there will be a soon a new HTC phone like the touch HD supporting tv out ?

The touch pro is good but the screen is small and it weights 30 g more than the touch hd. And I don't want to change my HD I just begin to enjoy it ;)
[Touch HD Accessories] loucura:
any new on the TV-OUT?

is ti possible to have like "bluetooth out"? like streaming to a tv by bluetooth?
[Touch HD Accessories] Marcdu81:
Hi,use this : HTC® 11pin Mini USB TV Out Cable

Available here .
[Touch HD Accessories] dazza9075:
That would be for the Touch Pro

The Touch HD does NOT have TV out abilities beyond that of a usb storage device your TV may support
[Touch HD Accessories] Marcdu81:
Put your HD in storage mass,connect it with the original usb wire to your TV or dvd recorder ( need an usb port ) . You'll see your pictures,mp3,video files on your tv screen .
[Touch HD Accessories] pim:
answer of HTC

Here is the answer of HTC concerning the tv out :

Dear ****, the reason why the HTC Touch Pro has got the TV function is because it has also got the TV Out exit. It is not possible to have the same functionality with the Touch HD because it is not possible to connect a cable from your device to a display.
[Touch HD Accessories] Marcdu81:
Yes that's right,but you can use your HD as a simple usb key,connect it to your LCD TV or DVD Recorder and you'll see the files .
[Touch HD Accessories] chewrawka:
I WOULDNT BE CONCERNED WITH THE SCREEN SIZE IF YOUR GONNA USE TV OUT ANYWAY. PLUS THE TP HAS KEYBOARD, AND FLASHLIGHT. THE BEST 2 FEATURES ON ANY PHONE. I WOULD IMAGINE A COOK WOULD NEED TO BAKE UP A HYBRID BUILD ROM TO GET TV OUT TO SEND VIDEO, THEN JUST BUY YOU COMM 3.5MM TO STEREO RCA FOR SOUND. JUST MY THOUGHT.:cool:
[Touch HD Accessories] khanting:
HD is disign more for multi-media, but don't support for TV.

What the Fxck the HTC disigner doing.

after i bought my HD only realise this.

for hardware HD is not not much defferent then thouch Pro.

so HD sure can TV out put just need software or driver to make it work only !
[Touch HD Accessories] bonesy:
Ok if thats true, Howcome you can use my mobiler on your pc and view, control play with your phone from desktop? If it had no tv out capabilities sureley it wouldnt display?
[Touch HD Accessories] khanting:
any new for the TV out ??
[Touch HD Accessories] ilordvader:
Anyone find anything cheaper :)
[Touch HD Accessories] Noodled24:
There was a device for the Sony Ericsson P900, which was a scart plug with a bluetooth dongle attatched, i never owned one but IIRC they claimed it could be used to display pictures and video.

There are a number of wireless scart leads..? The blackstone (as already noted) can display via wifi to a PC...
[Touch HD Accessories] MaskedMarauder:
The only way is with something like this:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Western...ices/8993217.p?skuId=8993217&id=1218008588808

Other similar devices are available, some for much less money, but you get what you pay for quality wise.

For any UK based persons it is available pre-order (released date is 14/12/09) from Play.com for £50: http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/12980...a=tsid:11518|cc:|prd:12980245|cat:Hard+Drives
[Touch HD Accessories] ilordvader:
thats real nice
[Touch HD Accessories] kenang83:
Hd tv output.........omg.........
[Touch HD Accessories] jez.stix:
htc response to tv out ?

thanks for your email. You are correct, The HD and HD2 do not have TV out. Only the Touch PR line of devices has TV out for using with presentations and the like. The TV Out function was not highly requested in the market research that we did, so we concentrated on what the request were mostly for...larger screen, multitouch, standard 3.5mm jack etc. TV out was very far down on the list of wanted features. As for the music abilities, the only thing i know of that was removed on the HD2 was the remote control. This has returned on the HD2 as we needed to develop one that worked with the standard 3.5 jack that the majority of our customers wanted. This was the only thing removed from the HD. We think we must be doing something right as we are selling more handsets than ever, and winning lots of awards for our handsets as well. However, obviously you cannot please everyone, and if we have failed to meet your needs then i apologise, and hope that whatever device you choose, whether it be one of ours or not, i hope that you will be happy with it and it is everything you want. Best regards, Pete W HTC
[Touch HD Accessories] ilordvader:
When I hook it to my Tv

it Blinks Blue Screen

disturbing to the Eye

is there a Fix for it

doesnt play smooth Video :(
[Touch HD Accessories] eejjay:
DUDE! Why don't you read????

If you had done that, you'd probably knew that the Blackstone DOES NOT have a TV out support

The only thing you are seeing is maybe some music disturbances on a TV cable

And your TV is doing the blue thing.
[Touch HD Accessories] ilordvader:
are you STUPID ??

I have Att Tilt2 & it has Tv out

dummy
[Touch HD Accessories] TheATHEiST:
Then why the f*** are you posting it in the Blackstone HD topic....DUMMY!!!!
[Touch HD Accessories] stoolzo:
lol and pantwetting

When will people learn, the HD does not and will never have TV out, it simply does not have the hardware, its not a driver, firmware, rom or sofware issue, it simply does not have a digital to analog converter linked to any socket onboard. Yes the CPU and chipset are capable of doing this, the hardware is probably millions of times more powerful than the computer onbaord the first rocket to the moon but you dont see any Touch Hd's in ordbit....

Get with the program people, this was found out days after the phone came out.

lol.
[Touch HD Accessories] eejjay:
+1 laughter :)
[Touch HD Accessories] telegraph0000:
Agree....nothing like reading nerds insulting one another....

Well....oh yeah!!???

Yeah!!!

I know you are but what am--

Dummy!!!

*Nerd as well...so to all my bretheren...take no insult.
[Touch HD Accessories] Swarvey:
i woulda said the same damn thing (although probably more profane)

add 1 ROFPMSL
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] vasvis:
Suddenly my touc pro is having issues connecting over any network connection, except activesync/usb.

I get an error popup saying there was a problem connection the GPRS connection. Claiming the modem hang up. In the notification area i only see greyed out E or 3G icons.

I have soft reset, hard reset, reconfigured the connections etc. Still no luck. And my provider claims there is no issues in their net, and my coworkers using the same provider in the same places got not issues.

Using the standard htc rom currently.

Any suggestions?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] littlej:
Hy well i started this thread becouse i recently upgraded from an elf to a diamond... and now i'm not so sure i did a good thing... besides the fact that tf3d its better looking its running worse than the old manila 2d, wich was way way smoother on my elf. thing is i had so few ram on the elf i always runed out of memory when using opera mobile...but on diamond with so much ram and cpu speed available i can tell the difference in opera mobile but thats all... becouse the tf3d it's crap (in my opinion)

So i ask here is there any other rom wich i can use who might not have tf3d or maybe some cube like old elf, or maybe some other gui wich looks preaty nice? or maybe a clean rom and use another gui wich works on vga? i did a lot of search and i only found out SPB wich aint free.

ps i have read people saying that they have theyir diamonds at 30-35% memory afther soft reset, well mine its always around 50% and afther one day of using it (normal usage dialing, calling, a bit of teeter and some web browsing) i reach 90% still i did the tweak with opera preload in registry... but its crap i have to reset it all day at least once... how is this posible ? i mean elf had 64 ram and i still could play with 15 ram from the 64, diamond has 192 and i can play with only of them ? so where are the rest? what is using those 160mb of ram ? was elf using other version of windows mobile (as i remember it was 6.1 same like the one on diamond) is tf3d so much memory hungry ?

thanks hope u understand my english and hope someone can enlight me a bit, or direct me to some links where i can read about this (problem) besides the search, cose (i might be dumb) i canot find anithing relevant...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] rpassmore:
I'm going to take a stab, and say it might be related to your rom (carrier loaded rom especially).

I bought the US 3g unlocked Diamond (no carrier)..and I was happy with it (faster then my old hermes).

I'm now using Dutty's latest rom..and it is very smooth.

Have you tried turning off touchflo, and sticking with the manila 2d UI?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Lord_BlackAdder:
I have the CT's v 6.4 HD Lite ROM which includes TouchFLO 3D and the speed is good. Highly recommended.

As for soft reset, I normally switch off the phone at the end of the day. That is same as soft reset and I switch it back on next morning, I think.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] littlej:
well as far as i know manila 2d ui aint for VGA... or at least i couldn't find anything to work on 600x480...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Davey101:
TF2D for VGA:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=429224

I agree with you, TF3D is absolute crap. The speed doesn't bother me so much, it's just the memory that is used up for no good purpose, given that TF3D has no genuine benefit whatsoever. I can't think of a single feature that works properly or usefully, compared to ordinary WM apps and today plugins.

[/rant]

I think the Diamond's a great little phone - attractive and good pocket size - and the battery life isn't too much of a problem. However, given how slow the Diamond is at graphics and file system operations, it doesn't need to be burdened by a white elephant like TF3D.

SPB Mobile Shell is very popular but I went the tradional route of using SPB Pocket Plus with Phone Suite and some other plugins. DevState 1.5 works great as a Today screen task manager. :)
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Reserved for addons
[P3400 ROM Development] hksin1988:
its looking really superb.....grt work man.,..

but u should please...make some ROM like this for Old gene also...

i m very excited abt ur ROMs but...cant use thm cuz they all r for new gene only...

so plz...do something for old gene also.....

thanks in advance...
[P3400 ROM Development] crazy4tricks:
Hey dude, great job

I am going to download this rom today itself
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
@crazy4tricks: Well do it, but do remember this is for New Gene only at this moment. If you have an unpatched phone, read the guide provided as the first thread of this forum to patch it.

@hksin1988: Buddy my previous ROM (Pro User's ROM) was for both old and new gene. I will build the old gene version eventually. I dont have this phone so it takes some time for me to do that. :)

Good luck and thanks for your good words guys! :)
[P3400 ROM Development] nevermind_me:
Black Metal Rom

Million thanks Sumit. I am downoading the rom now and the feedback will follow tomorrow.

Cheers!!:)
[P3400 ROM Development] ankit360:
what type of changes u made in xip to windows live work ?
[P3400 ROM Development] rakesh_4utoo:
Looks awesome bro...,

please Upload for OLD gene as i owned that.

anyhow great work..
[P3400 ROM Development] krishnachait:
Hi Krazy,

Please upload for the old gene as well, waiting to use this ROM.

Thanks in Advance

Krishna:)
[P3400 ROM Development] FUCHIM32:
Cid unlocker

Morning guys

the new roms on the forum looks good.

Does anybody know of a cid unlocking software for old or new gene.please let me know.

Can't wait to try the new roms

your fellow htc user
[P3400 ROM Development] swapnil_0081:
Good Work Man really very good

P

l

e

a

s

e

u

p

l

o

d

t

h

e

K

i

t

c

h

e

n

plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
Please read this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=464632

and first post of this thread

"Credits

- Many Many thanks to Ramerson for his great work.

- Thanks to Ankit360 who really started the work on this ROM, made it available for new gene for the first time and gave me the direction to work in.:"

^^
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
Just flashed with your ROM! :D. Was out of office all day so couldn't flash before that. So far no feedback, except the new splash screen is chick :D
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
The XIP that came with this ROM has many things missing, so i extracted the XIP, re-ported it using the Original P3400i WM6 ROM's XIP as base and created a new rom-hdr.nb using this XIP. In simple words, i recreated the whole BASE folder in the kitchen.

@All P3400 OLD GENE Owners:

Guys, be patient. I'll do the porting thing tonight and maybe upload it tonight or tomorrow. Its not like just pressing a button guys, i will need to port the whole XIP again. It takes about 1.5 hours of work. :)

@swapnil: Buddy the kitchen is quiet huge in size. And its even not complete yet, i use parts of kitchen from Old Users ROM and Part from this new ROM. So its a little more complicated than you think. The Base kitchen that i am using is Ramerson's and Ankit's manilla ROM. So if you really want to learn the process, get these two and read a lot on XIP porting etc on this forum. I have also learn that way. Porting a ROM requires a bit of understanding of the whole architecture of the OS. And even greater if you want to optimize it.

And by the way, when you use Ramerson's kitchen for porting a different ROM, the only thing you can use from the original kitchen is the kitchen.exe file and 1-2 files from the BASE folder. Rest is created from the ROM you are porting, its your job to create it. When you understand the process, you can use this fact as a hint :)
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
And guys, one request. Please dont Quote the original post in which i posted details about the ROM with your replys. It looks ugly and serves no purpose. Thank you :)
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
Attached thumbnail. LOL :D
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
You can atleast post like this! I guess I have already requested though :rolleyes:. Anyways, I don't think you have to remind the thread starter about the start post ;).
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Hey Shaunak, how are you getting the coloured icons for active sync and signals? would you like to share with me??
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
You have got a message :)
[P3400 ROM Development] milind2mb:
Hi Sumit..

With pro users ROm i was not able to use camera properly none of the onscreen butoons wud respond so was stuck in one setting

Hope this is not the case with black metal ROM.

Neways.. GR8 work.. thanks a millinons
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
But never had this problem myself! Or for that matter no one posted about cam problems :rolleyes:
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
You should've reported it in the thread man! where were you when i was shouting "feedback guys feedback!" :rolleyes: anyways, nobody else reported that problem to me, so i guess i may not be able to help you much. Did you tried a hard reset and then try to use camera without installing any other software?
[P3400 ROM Development] milind2mb:
I did hard reset bfore installing ur rom buddy not after that.. I will try hard reset now.. and my cam was not working right upfront from start when no external softwares were installed.

How much memory does the camera app take in run time ? Mine shows 18 MB free genrally..

E1 i hav no idea whts wrong with it !!

Will try ur new ROM tonight..
[P3400 ROM Development] Blueangel180:
Hey is there any way i can disable the new task manager and revert to a different one?:confused:

And message notifications aren't displayed on the top menu bar anymore :confused:
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
On the homescreen, tap and hold in the empty area where normally there is the HTC Task Manager icon situated (the top right corner on the taskbar) and click Preferences.. On the General1 tab, set the "Offset from left edge" to 25 and "Offset from right edge" to 135. Your icons will be visible now :) If there are even more icons hiding, such as when you have both a missed call and a message, you can increase the value of Offset from right edge even more.

No need to change the task manager buddy :)

And if you really like to replace the task manager, just remove the shortcut from \Windows\Startup folder. It will stop working on reboot. If you dont want to use it ever, remove the shortcut from \windows\Start Menu\Programs folder. But you cant remove the files as they are in ROM. And you'll have to do it on every hard reset. The files are only 300 KB in size so dont worry about that. :)
[P3400 ROM Development] ankit360:
is it possible to marge both rom project in one so development goes fast :confused:
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
How can we do this, any idea? Its already a merged project. You can take my ROM, dump it using Ramerson's kitchen and get a kitchen ready to be modified. :) I dont have any copyrights on the ROM buddy. I will send you the BASE and ROM folders if you ask. Customze everything and release a new ROM when you are happy with it :) OK?
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
Review BlackMetal 1.0 ROM

Hi,

Here is what I found about the your newest ROM:

1. Flashing : No issues whatsoever

2. Speed : Unbelievably fast for such a loaded ROM, but not as fast as Pro's interface (obviousely, no regrets there - you win some you loose some :). But visibly faster than other Manilla based ROM (zelalat/ lomlom's).

3. Softwares used:

a) Opera Mobile : No issues (as fast as all ways) [From SD Card]

b) SKTools : No issue [From SD Card]

c) Resco Exploerer : No issues (Pretty fast, took around 3-4 secs to open windows folder). [From SD Card]

d) Iniatally there was an ugly icon of the task manager used to appear beside the start menu, but solved it by using allways hide option. The new task manager rocks :D.

e) Camera : No issues, its just like it used to ;)

Loving it and waiting for your next ROM :D

@krazy: I have installed Homescreen plusplus plugin (for overclocking): will it work even if its not 'visible' but enabled ? Any ideas?
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
@shaunak: Thats great man! With less bugs, i'll get some time to create the OLD GENE version and optimize this one too. I am thinking of incorporating and automatic fix for audio manager and windows media player to play music in suspend mode. But will do it when i'll find one or two more issues. One issue the you people may not have noticed is that the new splash screen doesnt wroks properly in landscape mode. :o I know that it doesnt makes much difference as GENE is a portrait device, but it looks ugly when it happens.

Anyways, Using HomeScreenPlusPlus is not possible buddy as manilla 2D disables any other today plugin when it is started. Other wise it was working great as a task manager too.
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
But I guess this task manager is better (at least for me :D).

Re: Overclocking - Well gotta google :D

Go It :)
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
Overclocking

find attached the files required to overclock your Gene.

But:

DO NOT BLAME ME IF YOU BURN YOUR GENE (instead of Bricking :D)!

USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISK! Its not my software :).
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Buddy, overclocking seems good, but it shortens life of your phone, keep that in mind. :)
[P3400 ROM Development] arminvandyk:
hey buddy , m a newbie seeking help....i wanted to know that if i install ur rom on my gene, whether i'l b able to revert back original rom or not nd will i b able to avail the warranty of my device....my gene is just 3 months old...thanks
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
@arminvandyk: For installing my or for that matter, any custom ROM, you need to first unlock the SPL of your device. For that, there is a link in my signature to the thread by me which explains the process in details. This is a very dangerous task and can kill your device if not done properly so make sure you do it after proper reading.

After that, you will be knowing whether your phone is a new gene or old, then you can take any compatible ROM and flash it. Will you be able to revert back to original is something that depends whether the original ROM is available for your phone or not. Most old GENE that came originally with WM5 cannot be reverted back due to many isssues. New gene, the P3400i are possibly reverted but that i can say only for the ones manufactured in/for India. There is a proper working original ROM available for India based new gene. For others i am not sure.

YOUR WARRANTY WILL BE VOID THE MINUTE YOU UNLOCK YOUR SPL :o
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
yeah I know! but it will be worth it :)

Let me know what you think of the screen shot :D
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Good if you like it, i would not :D Its nice but it doesn't fits my taste well, no offence. I wonder what would i have called my ROM if i had this theme as default, Sumit's Yellow Black Flowy ROM :D lol, just kidding!
[P3400 ROM Development] htc3400:
Hi sumit,

Awaiting the release of black metal rom for OLD gene...:D

thank
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Will upload it in a day or two man, am working on it :)
[P3400 ROM Development] somya_cse:
hi friends...

i want upgrade my HTC P3400i from WM6 to 6.1...

i saw the post blackmetal rom here...

is it properly work on my new HTC P3400i....????

and please tell me the detail..how to do the format....

my model is GENE160

and rom ver: 1.17xxxxxxx

cpu omap850

Any 1 more thing..on battery its written gene160 but on device info its gene1oo ...what is this ??

Thank u in advance...

Is it right place to say my words..???
[P3400 ROM Development] htc3400:
thx buddy ...just curious to try ur ROM ....:D
[P3400 ROM Development] ankit360:
wm 6.5

now waiting for windows mobile 6.5 beta :rolleyes:
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
Its expected next month :D!
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
Buddy, we will require the following information to properly determine whether this ROM will will be right for you or not:

S/N:

ONBL:

SPL

S/N: You will find at the back of your device after you remove the battery. The other two are displayed when you start up your device, on the white HTC Logo Screen.

You have said your Gene is Gene160 :rolleyes:. Please goto settings->Systems->Device Information->Identity and confirm. BTW When did you buy this device? But anyway its most probably 'New' Gene since it came with WM 6.0 :rolleyes:.
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
@krazy:

I don't like that Home screen much my self :D. Just wanted to share the options we can have with M2DC (but its not perfect, it screws up once in a while :)).

Noticed the battery status if you hide the clock ?
[P3400 ROM Development] chanote:
hi

i have question

i have htc 3400i sn ht8xxx

1.this your ROM i can use?

2. after up rom i can back to use original ROM? (if OK....HOW TO):confused:
[P3400 ROM Development] Pank789:
hi

waiting for this rom for old gene...:)

I need one more help from u krazy .. i downloaded the kitchen for old gene but i m not able to use it, rom cooked using it stuck at first screen can you please guide me in this ..

also i had wm5 os.nb and extrom..nb dumped from my orginal (wm5) i also extracted xip.bin from it but dont know how to use it with kitchen so that the ROM created using kitchen will work.... ( i m beginner in mobile development but a vc++ software developer)

thanks ...