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[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] kwill:
does the new beta actually still use desktop redirection for lotus notes or OTA? as well, do they still have a separate calendar from the outlook calendar to display ur appts and such in? emoze is still desktop connector but all my stuff is in one calendar
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] m.carroll:
Seven is certainly a great program, its as close as we can get to push email w/o Exchange. The only gripe i have with it is that you can't manually set account settings, ie: my school offers both POP3 and IMAPv4 access to our inboxes, but is only recognized as POP3, even when i specify IMAP. This is annoying since i just get mail every 5 minutes (like stock client) and it doesnt recognize read/unread flags. I still use seven for my gmail account (although not instant, the emails are pretty close, ~10 seconds ish...). Thanks for the recommendation!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Wordsmith9091:
You can get a little more control by setting up your gmail account as an "other imap" account -- but setting it up as gmail is a little slicker. Dealing with gmail over imap is a little odd because of the differences between gmail's "labels" and the equivalent folders you see through imap. They seem to have done all the mapping right to make that fairly seamless when you set it up as a gmail account.

If you do it as imap, just make sure you read up a little on the imap/gmail relationship and know what's going on.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] keeper22:
I see online there is a new version that supports gmail delete better. I have version 7.1.5 but when I click on upgrade it says there are no upgrades available... any ideas.

http://community.seven.com/viewtopic.php?t=2740

System SEVEN version 7 Beta Program Update Release Notes

Release Date: January 26, 2009

Server build: 314335 (version 7.3)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] fourcc:
thanks for the tip, i will try it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Radimus:
SERVER upgrade... not client
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] mjaverto:
I am really loving this app. It really is just as fast as outlook on my computer.

Out of emoze, mail2web, and seven...Seven is definitely the winner in my phone. For those of you who install it make sure you disable touchflo when installing. Then just re-enable after installation/setup to go back to normal.:D

Works great thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] keeper22:
I see, strange because I am still having the deleting email issue.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Wordsmith9091:
Try removing your gmail account from seven, then add it back. Seems to resolve certain issues there. It's a frequent (apparently successful) suggestion on their board. Probably because certain account parameters that are established during signup are being tweaked as the beta continues.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Wordsmith9091:
Been continuing to play with it. Looks like they've had a lot of service issues over the last few days. Hoping that's the exception, not the norm, but who knows with a beta. When it works, it works very well.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] NighTalon:
To Suggest an Alternative...

I tried SEVEN's beta for a while, and discovered that if you save your messages on a storage card, doing a Sprite backup/restore adds an extra, phantom e-mail account. Also, I noticed with the original stock FUZE ROM and ROMeOS 1.60, which I currently use, the installer freezes. Everything seems to be fine on reboot, but I'm not so sure. This was about two months ago.

I recommend IMAPpusherservice 0.6 which simply makes WM6 check IMAP when something changes as per the IMAP-idle command. It works quite well. I use EDGE by default, except when I need fast browsing, tethering, or YouTube. That way push e-mail doesn't kill my battery life.

SEVEN is great, don't get me wrong, but just as with BlackBerry Connect, I'm a little wary of these Pocket Outlook plug-ins...not to mention the non-default mail icon...but I guess I'm just a bit of a control freak!

Oh, also, as of two months ago, there was a fifteen minute delay in the two-way sync of read and deleted items. IMAP pusher service does not have this issue.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] bnesmith:
Seven = awesome

Yes I love Seven as well. We use it with exchange server and it has not missed a beat since we switched to it. Highly recommended!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] rexian:
Couple of questions for the users -

#1 Does it work over WiFi? I don't have a data plan and need email notification only when I am at home (WiFi).

#2 For OWA and personal accounts, will there be any service required from these guys? I mean, will my phone have to connect to their servers for anything?

TIA.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Radimus:
it is ONLY cellular

yes, the seven servers monitor your configured mail servers, when updates are detected, it grabs the "new message" and pushes it to your phone
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] fourcc:
didn't you notice a draining of your battery using imappusher?

How do you guys compare imappusher with seven redarding battery draining?

which one is more battery friendly?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] pazookie:
can you guys post your cab..i downloaded one from seven's site and i keep getting crashes when trying to access the inbox..i was only able to dowload the htc touch version as that was the only htc version on the site
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] letsgoflyers81:
I tried Seven on a Palm Treo a long long time ago and didn't care for it at all. I just installed the latest version on my Touch Pro and it's pretty good. I have a couple complaints, some of which are being worked on.

1. The sender only shows as the e-mail address and not the person's name. So instead of outgoing e-mail being from John Smith, it's from johnsmith@gmail.com. They're working on that.

2. You can't change the second-from address. I use Gmail to consolidate several e-mail addresses and always send from a different address inside Gmail on my PC. Right now there's now way to show my send-from e-mail address as anything other than the gmail.com address itself. They're working on that as well.

Also, and I might be dense here, but is there a way to let Seven push 24/7? You can schedule when to stop and start on the weekends and weekdays, but I didn't see an option to never stop and let it go 24/7.

I can post my cab if you want, but I got it from the website this morning and it said it was for the Touch as well. So it's probably the same one you have.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] woody88:
I've actually posted this on the seven support forum. but don't know if anyone else is having this problem also......any help is greatly appreciated.

"my problem with the access now, I think, is that my company's email team sees that the seven application is constantly polling the exchange server (my guess) and they shutoff my access. So when I tried to access it via the phone, it would actually tell me it's the wrong password. But when I use it on a web browser, the same password works just fine. Would anybody have any idea how to work around this problem? I know it is off topic with this discussion, but was just curious. Thanks!"
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] jank0023:
Only thing I'd state is I do get it to work with wi-fi. I've used Seven Beta for about 1.5 yrs..I l left Commontime as I need Lotus notes sync for work email.

Only thing I want is to know how to right a script to have system automatically kick off my VPN client AND start it...I use AT&T client and I can put it in windows startup folder BUT someone actually needs to click connect so Seven accesses work email.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] jank0023:
Leave the exception area blank (pertaining to push schedule) and it will push 24/7. I get emails all night...I usually wake up and check email 2 or 3 times a night (wife is about to toss my phone in the pool)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] jank0023:
If your work uses exchange...can't you just use activesync/push email? I only use Seven because my work uses Lotus Domino..

Seven desk connector needs to constantly poll your exchange server or it wouldn't be able to provide real time push email...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] mafaquem:
This App is absolutely awsome.... working great on my TOuch Pro.... emails are getting pushedo n gmail in like...2 seconds ....
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] letsgoflyers81:
How do you leave it blank? In Seven I go to General Settings, then Push. There are drop down boxes for when to start and stop pushing on the weekends and weekdays. I don't see any way to leave those fields blank. If worse comes to worse I can set it to stop pushing at like 3am then start again at 4am, but that just seems dumb. I have to be missing something.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] woody88:
my work only use the Blackberry exchange server, as far as I know. I even know a few guys on the email team, and they told me that for mobile devices, it's only Blackberry. But it was working so well for like 3 days, then it went down, so I know someone over "there" must saw the activity on seven trying to poll the data. I'm trying to see if there is a work around, as I rather use wm versus bb.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Keland44:
sounds good i'm goin to test it out
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] rexian:
I tried it today and it seems to be working here at home with wifi. But not at work where firewall blocks every port other than 80 & 443. So I am assuming the communication between my phone and Seven's server is not through a standard http port.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] b_slice:
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this - but if you're currently using Xpress mail and try and install seven concurrently, there is a good chance both will get screwed.

I didnt realize that Xpress mail used some of the same Seven files (or that Xpress was a Seven piece of software) and installed it on-top of Xpress and well, both were damaged.

So, FYI. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] jank0023:
Set the start and end time the same for all the fields...that's how mine is set and mine pushes 24/7.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Keland44:
this works really well just been using it on my me and my wife's phone works really well
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] letsgoflyers81:
You're right, thanks. I had to reinstall for another reason and I noticed the start and stop times were the same and it appears to be pushing around the clock.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] shaizi74:
hello, I wish to use Seven for my e-mail account of domino server and I get them through lotus notes on my PC. Can you guide me how to configure this on my windows mobile with Seven?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] mikemorris:
since i have no idea what Domino is i would suggest putting this on the seven forum, and seeing if you can get an answer over there.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] shaizi74:
It is the server for Lotus notes mails. And I have read on earlier pages that Seven is the only software that can push the lotus notes mails.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] jank0023:
Dude you are better off using the forums on Seven. They have explicit instructions on how to install. If you can be more specific I can probably help you out as I've used the product on multiple winmo devices.

First thing you need to do is choose a version...

Also, Seven is not the only product you can use. Look up commontime and mNotes...they make another application that works with Lotus (in fact its made solely for Lotus Notes...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Superion:
Security...?

I have a question regarding security. I think - and someone correct me if I'm wrong - this program uses the company's (Seven's) server to poll your EMail servers, and then "pushes" new content to your phone when it detects it. That's why you put your account info/password information into it...so that it can poll your EMail box.

Is anyone else here worried about giving yet a second company access to your EMail? I'm not trying to knock Seven or be a party-crasher - I actually think the app would be a great solution for me, if I could resolve my security concerns - I'm just worried, guys. Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] jank0023:
This is how many of the services work commontime push email and with Blackberry your data gets sent through their servers too (i believe). Your corporate mail transmits data to a Blackberry server/network to your phone, hence why you have to be in a blackberry data plan vs regular data plan...blackberry essentially has their own private network...

But you are right it is something that should be considered and ensure you meet your companies standards.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Superion:
Thanks for the response. Fortunately these are just MY concerns, for the moment (I'm not planning to use these for my business)...it's just me being "paranoid". But it does appear to be a legitimate concern, from what I'm understanding.

Someone mentioned IMAPpusherservice, or something like that...but I'm trying to find out if that supports multiple accounts. Other than that...*sigh* It looks like the only way to have really secure push EMail is to make some sort of "at-home" EMail server. What fun. X-(
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] pronacyk:
For those with the Touch Pro, are you guys able to see the email previews in the Email tab of TouchFlo3D? Mine just says "Click to view message".
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] mafaquem:
I have got the EXACT SAME issue... ANy help please ????
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] doctajay:
It didn't work for my school POP e-mail, so I won't be able to use it. It seems cool though
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] letsgoflyers81:
That's a current limitation of SEVEN. There's a thread on their forums about it and they're supposed to be working on it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] KD8DNS:
Ok, here is the issue I have with seven.

I have installed this at least 10 times and every single time it locks up my device. I have to reset it about 7 times before I can even attempt to un-install it. Any ideas.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] steb0ne:
Is there any way to get rid of that red notification icon that comes up for new mail?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] emmfan:
You can make the "read" state on the new mail notification dismiss when you select the mail tab in manila. You just need to replace a manila file in the windows directory. Here's the instructions.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] steb0ne:
RED icon, not "read"... The icon that comes up to notify on a new message. It's normally an envelope icon.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] letsgoflyers81:
SEVEN is producing the notification, not Outlook. I don't know how you'd change it to show a regular envelope. steb0ne posted about making the e-mail show as read because it would get rid of the notification icon, but just not exactly what you were asking for.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] steb0ne:
Ahhh, gotcha
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] keeper22:
I had some trouble with this app with Gmail. It sets a higher priority to moving messages than it does for deleting messages, so if I delete a message then decide to archive one into a folder the deleted message would come back. I assume because it is sending and receiving after I move a message but the deleted message has not been deleted off the server yet so it re-appears in the inbox.

I know it sounds confusing but is was a big enough annoyance that I had to uninstall the app.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] fhsieh:
For Gmail users, please check if you are using Gmail's "Advanced IMAP Controls". You can see it by clicking the green beaker on the top right of Gmail next to your email address.

If you have Advanced IMAP Controls enabled, you must enable the Trash label by going to Edit Labels > Trash: (check) Show in IMAP. If it is unchecked, Seven will not be able to see the Trash "folder" and therefore cannot delete any messages, and will simply move the message back to the Inbox.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] |oLo|:
Can this be used in conjuction with active sync when using push email. Or can you only use one.

My situation...

I use activesync for sync'ing of all my personal contacts, mail2web, and appointments (personal)

My job uses an exchange server and I would like to access it via mobile but I don't want to wipe all my personal data with the corporate data. I want to be able to access email (I do have owa access also)

I was wondering if I could use "7" for just my work data...or even better..use it for all
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] manoli20:
simultaneous hotmail accounts in tf3d... woop!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] letsgoflyers81:
Outlook only lets you configure one Activesync account at a time. However I think if you set up SEVEN to pull your work e-mail it should work because as far as Outlook knows, you have one Activesync account, and one SEVEN.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] |oLo|:
Sweet. Thanks for the info....one more thing...what's up with this:

"Use of this software includes sending an SMS message to us for each email account you register. This is for purposes of testing the reporting functionality"

Is there a way around this...don't want to load up the charges for international minutes and I don't want to find out the hard way
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] letsgoflyers81:
No problem. I don't know if you can get around that. I'm pretty sure the SMS is only sent when you first configure the account and it allows them to verify that the service is working properly, or something like that. I don't know what kind of wireless plan you have, but will you be charged for international SMS, or just minutes? I think SEVEN is an American company so if you're not in the US it might be a problem.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] |oLo|:
Oh it's US? if that's the case then I should be fine...i'm in the US and I have unlimited data and voice with 1500 sms/month

Just checked the site....

"Use of this software includes sending an SMS message to us for each email account you register. This is for purposes of testing the reporting functionality.

The number is +447624802625, located in the UK. For some users, this will be an international SMS leading to a charge on your bill. Others may not have SMS messaging in their plan. Please refer questions regarding service plans and expenses to your network operator."

As long as it's only a one time thing...then that would be cool. Just did not know if it was for constant feedback via sms.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] h078:
TF3D Prview of 7

Service works flawlessly but on Manila email preview it displays only subject of the message and sender (sticking out of envelope) but no preview text other then click to view message

With normal poll email it works with full preview...?

Any thoughts on this?

Thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Wordsmith9091:
That's a known bug. The Seven guys are on it. PRobably something about the formatting of the message once it passes through Seven's process that TF3D chokes on -- It will do the same for a small handful of e-mails on accounts set up the normal way too.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] letsgoflyers81:
Oops, I guess I was wrong about the US number. For what it's worth I have Sprint and I haven't been charged for any international SMS. I stopped using SEVEN but I had it working for a while and didn't get any extra charges.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] shaizi74:
I have configured POP mail on Seven. Its is working well, but it makes my messages as unread, which I have already read. I make them read, but they again few of them get unread on next data transfer. Is there anyway to fix this. It is annoying to see new messages but when I go to inbox, they are the previous ones that I have already read.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] jank0023:
Pretty sure its been stated in the thread...you most likely want to disable touchflo BEFORE installing Seven.

I know when I forget it...it will install, lock up device, I have to soft reset with stylus and then it opens up to the Seven setup screen. If you disable touchflo first...setup works flawlessly...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] jug6ernaut:
has anyone used this to sync Gmail calender? I saw it and was gonna try it but idk if it syncs once or if it keeps up an active sync like googlesync. Can anyone answer this for me? thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] kwill:
can someone answer one question. does the beta use the built in winmo calendar or a seperate one like xpressmail? thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] letsgoflyers81:
It uses the WM calendar, not a separate one. Same thing if you sync contacts.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] kwill:
double post:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] kwill:
thanks dude:) on another note, it appears you can't use the calendar function if you have google sync setup for your contacts and calendar? bummer or is there a way around it. i like to use my google calendar in day to day life, but use my lotus notes calendar when at work. with emoze i can use both and they stay in sync. although, i have noticed seven's speed is much better and consistency in receiving messages on time. lastly, it runs very quietly in the background compared to emoze.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Radimus:
Requests for multiple calendar/contacts sync have been made, I currently use Funambol to sync contacts/calendar/tasks between work and home outlook clients, while I use activesync/exchange for home exchange server and seven for work email
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] letsgoflyers81:
Right. SEVEN integrates into the WM calendar and contacts and since WM only allows one of each, you can only have one. So if you sync your calendar with Google Exchange or another Exchange service, then that's it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] keeper22:
I have encountered a small bug for me, when I recieve an email notification I get two notifications, one from seven and one from sbp phone suite. If I click on the phone suite notification and read the email in outlook, the seven notificatation remains. Even after reading the email. The only way to dismiss the seven notification is to click on it. Even though there are no unread emails in outlook.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] nhuda:
Enjoying 7

After reading this thread for some time I finally bought a data plan and started using Seven. Its working great with gmail. I have used Emoze before but I think Seven is better. Has anyone used Imappusher? Can you give me a comparison so that I can choose a keeper between Seven and Imappusher?

Regards,

nhuda
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] jug6ernaut:
i love seven...use it to push my gmail emails and sync my gmail calendar...works awesome.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] keeper22:
Any issues I had before were address and fixed and I am now using this for email/contacts/calendar which allowed me to get rid of two other programs that were leading to heavy battery drain (flexmail and oggsync).

I am very happy with Seven
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] tribalmunky:
How long are these outages usually? I can't add my GMail account because it says server is busy. I checked the status forum but nothing that is current is posted.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Ovrclck:
I just installed this program, my gmail is fast!! yippee
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Wordsmith9091:
Sometimes minutes, sometimes hours. When it works, it works very well. But sometimes it goes down. Welcome to life in beta. But you can't beat the price. :)