yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
To be honest: no.

There is no executable in this package, just two libraries called "ConcurrenceMgr.dll" and "ConcurrenceMgrRC.dll". Maybe it has something to do with the Manila stock tab, but that is just a (bad) guess.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] chris5304:
Yes, it is the same one which works fine on the HD with other ROMs. I don't know what dependecies it has but never mind, I'm getting used to HomeScreen ++ instead, it has a much smaller memory footprint, more in keeping with your Barebones ROM!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] iSlaker:
maybe an off-thread question, but does anyone know where exactly manila stores favourite contacts?

i have gone through the entire registry and if it's in there is not under any manila key it might also be encrypted but it's not necessary.

reason i want to know that is that as i'm a flasher, i just can't stand setting everything up everytime im trying a new rom. i've managed to get everything back to their places using UC which would work on any rom but this little thing is really annoying me. is the only part of the whole thing not working yet.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Maybe it uses the file system, and not the registry.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] baller4ever:
there is a bug

hi mate, this rom is great!!! I love it! it's faster than any roms available in this section. However, this is a bug on the photo Album, everytime i press the photo album, it can only read several pics then freezes...any ideas?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] baller4ever:
there is a bug update

I delete all the pics in my card which transferred from my O2 orbit and it seems the HTC album is working now.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lynne02191:
really like your ROMs with both slim and barebone, but since some people reported in other thread that there is a JBlend error with Opera browser in some ROMs, they degenerated it to the original application, so please check on that if there is any within your version, and also, wm 6.5 is already applied to some ROMs now, I'm looking forward to have your's haha
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
I haven't included Opera, so you have to look which version runs :). In my opinion there are to many Opera releases. Some run well, some don't. Some work with Flash, some don't. Some have zoom slider, some don't. I have not the time to work out, which one is the "best".

WM6.5 is a hybrid of WM6.1 and a WM6.5 beta release, so I don't think it is useful at all. Much things don't work, others are buggy. All in all its not for the productive usage yet.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Barebone 1.3 has been released, whereas the Slim version has been given up.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] chris5304:
I have been running Barebone 1.2 for a few days and it is very good for my needs. Excellent concept and very useful work, many thanks. I looked in the first post but can't see any detail of changes between 1.2 and 1.3. Can you describe briefly the changes so that I can decide whether to flash 1.3?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] arisg:
John, I want to thank you for your ROMS which are exactly what I want for my phone. However, don't you think that the inclusion of flashlight is against the "barebone" philosopohy. Actually, IRC does the same to this ROM (violate its barebone nature) but we got used to it now. Thanks again.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Sure it is against the philosophy, but on the other hand this is quite useful stuff :). I will consider it, maybe it will get removed in the next release again :p, although everybody has to install it for himself.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dewmap:
Thanks or this ROM. Is it possible for you supply the cab file for transcriber. Thanks again
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
You can now find it in the first post.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Ok, I have thought about it for quite a while and you are right. Therefore I'm releasing version 1.4 :).

The main changes are:

Removed even more stuff:

JBlend Java

HTC NewMailAccount (only used within Manila)

HTC OutlookEnhancement (only used within Manila)

FlashLite

HTC GPS Tool

ICR (InCall Recording)

Some applications have been outsourced, so they are out of the rom itself, but can be installed with a cab, which is also included. This affects:

Transcriber

HTC USBToPCPopUp

Remote Desktop Mobile

OneNote Mobile

If somebody really need this stuff, its easy to install it automatically after each hard reset using user customization (see above).

Hopefully, most are happy now :p.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] VizagDude:
Hi, Wanted to check with you... would you release a ROM which is Not So Barebone... I mean.. I really like your concept of having a clean ROM so that User can install which the progs and apps as per thieir pref. But I use Manila 3D a lot... Infact, I got so much used to it right from the Polaris device when the chefs cooked ROM with Manila 2D.

So, I was hoping somehow if we could have this ROM with just the Manila added. I can understand, that just for one person's request adding it does not make sense... but if more are is interested... you might consider.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Try the slim version. You will find it in the first post, the core itself stays the same, so even if it is one week "old", its up to date :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] arisg:
Thanks John. I really feel this is the epitomy of minimalist ROMs.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
At least I hope so :).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lynne02191:
hey, the file is damaged, i can't open it with rar, please have a look :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
I'm sorry, there must went something wrong during the upload process. I'm uploading it once again right now, it will take 10 more minutes :(.

€dit: Should be completed right now.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vuhongduong:
Please upload your Roms on rapidshare. How slow your host is :eek::eek::eek::eek:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
I'm downloading with 2MB/s from my host, so it must be the connection itself. Where are you from :)?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lynne02191:
problem is gone, btw since you removed manila, could you tell me where can I download it, cos I've did many researches but none really helps, thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
I don't know, maybe it is not downloadable.

If you are keen on Manila use the slim version.

Maybe I will provide a cab for each package that I have removed, but that will definitely take some time.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lynne02191:
haha, I think it is not necessary to do that, but i'd glad to have one if this is not only a joke
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] c4Lvin:
John, trying out the SLIM version and it's darn FAST! Even plays youtube (via Opera) with flash installed by myself. But was wondering if there is the original YOUTUBE APPLICATION for download anywhere? I miss that :(

Thanks for doing a great job!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] iSlaker:
i was gonna ask that too... playing with a kitchen i managed to make a cab out of other rom but when a play a video it doeant fit the screen and the worst, no matter which video i choose it will always play the same video of a guy dancing. ahahahah how sad is that???

my laptop came back from repair yesterday and its already going back. dont buy anything from acer.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bigdog:
thank you

I flashed your Barebone v1.4 and also used the UC.

So far I like it. I like it alot :)

Thank you for your work.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] namaste74:
Great barebone ROM, keep it up. Since someone said they had problems with Wisbar Advanced Desktop with this ROM, I should say I've been running it for a week without a problem, runs very well on your ROM.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
I will try to make a cab out of it, will upload it later on, have not much time at the moment.

Haven't tried it yet, so I can't tell you anything about that.

Just fine that it is so useful to you :).

I haven't tried it yet, but as I already said above I can't imagine a single reason why it shouldn't run.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] chris5304:
It was me who had the problem with WAD. I have just re-downloaded the cab from Lakeridge and reinstalled it. It is now working OK for me also so I don't know why it wouldn't work before. As you say it suits this ROM without TF3D. in the meantime I have built a half decent Homescreen ++ theme - that also suits this ROM well. Just out of interest do you install WAD to storage card or internal memory? Similarly where do you put the theme folders. I am using storage card for both but I guess it may be more reliable with them in memory?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Ok, I have made a cab out of the package. You need to install ConcurrenceMgr also, the youtube application is based on that.

Unfortunately I have misinterpreted it, so I have removed it. I will add it in the upcoming 1.5 release. For now its enough to install the cab file.

You will find both cabs in the first post.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lynne02191:
would you develop slim version anymore?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
But as I already said its still up to date.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] namaste74:
I ran WAD 2 on the Polaris and had the SD card bug come up several times, it would eat the theme folder completely unless I had all images and files in memory. I have been running it now on the HD from the SD card without a problem, I try to keep all used images together in a folder as much as possible but it has not given me any problems linking to other directories. But the huge 65% free mem while running is great compared to the 30% free I'd have frequently on the Polaris. Keeping everything including the program files on the SD card is a plus in my book because after each flash everything pretty much runs after install, no need to recopy themes all over after the flash (do keep a back up in a folder though).

Anywho, glad to hear you got it all working, I love the program since version 2 was released, I don't miss TF3D at all.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xanadu:
Tried ICR cab on Barebone 1.4 - no success - reflashed with 1.3 (built-in ICR) same story. Any idea to make it working?

Thanks in advance.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Which cab are you using?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xanadu:
I don't use cab file found icr in Barebone 1.3 rom /Program Files

Before on 1.4 rom used ICR_51spsoft_com.cab from your post.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
I have just made a cab out of the files that were released in this thread.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lynne02191:
that's good, but tbh, I prefer slim version more than barebone one, cos it's interface is what blackstone device have to be, but barebone one is just lack of exclusiveness, cos it's without manila 3d(touchflo 3d)....it's only my personal opinion though:p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Sure it is. For me, after a while, the normal Windows Mobile look and feel, which I am used to since a few years, ist just more effective. I have various applications from resco and spb running, and its just what I am expecting from my pocket pc.

With Manila I feel too much constricted, and it takes a lot of ram, which isn't really a problem with this device as it has enough, but nevertheless I'm humble :).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
I have released version 1.5. ConcurrenceMgr is included now (which is just a library). If you are not going to do a hard reset it might be better to install the cab file provided in the second post.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] namaste74:
Thanks for the update, just want to mention you should change the date in the tittle of your post too. Thanks for making these barebones ROMS.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] c4Lvin:
John, thanks for the youtube cab! I will try out the 1.5 right after this!!!! Can't wait!!! Oh, on the wireless, there are 3 settings for the performance levels (fast/medium and slow for better batt life)...is it a big difference? I guess only 1 way to find out eh! Continue the good work!

Thanks again!!!!!!!!!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
What do you mean? As far as I can see all dates are correct?

As far as I know the options are quite useless. The throughput with any power saving is really bad, whereas the power saving itself isn't as big.

Personally I have decided to use the maximum performance, but I'm not using the wireless lan often at all.

I will try to :).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] philvanzu:
Thanks a lot for this rom John. It's exactly what I needed.

I'm noticing the IME engine and Ezinput files you posted a while ago seem to no longer be accessible. Would you mind rehosting them? and maybe put a link for it in the first post with the other useful cabs?

Thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
I have noticed a bug in my cabs, so I have removed them. Will try to remake it again.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] namaste74:
Sorry didn't see the Jan 30 at the end this morning, only Jan 19 at the begining.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lugia:
hmmm i really am glad with this rom, very nice job and many thanks!!!!

but i am very used to the htc touch hd full and compact keyboard... is there any way i can download it in a cab? or is it impossible?

and i dont want a replacement application like spb or something...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Ok, finally I have uploaded it, you will find it in the first post.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] philvanzu:
Thanks a lot. I'm gonna try this right now.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] philvanzu:
works like a charm. thanks again
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] namaste74:
Thanks for the cab, works great. Not had any problems other than youtube not playing in ie6, flash seems to work ok, but no video. Does it work on yours?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Yes. You have to change to Desktop view mode.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] namaste74:
hmm, thats the standard setup for me, just says "the old version of flash player"routine. Could it be radio related? I'm on 1.10.25.25.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
*Sorry, double post, should be deleted*
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Just as I am, the radio hasn't to do anything with the software you are using.

Youtube works just fine for me:

Which version of flash are you using?

I have attached the one that I'm using, should work just fine.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] namaste74:
I thought the flash cab was only needed for Opera. Will install it real quick and check.

edit: yup works now, thanks.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mini_z_racer:
Hi John, thanks so much for the cooked ROM, that's what I was waiting for. My friend of mind is also using HD but he would like to use the Manila interface instead of SPB, is there a way to install the Manila back to HD? Thanks for your help/time.

Kevin
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
No, not so far. But the slim version contains Manila already.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] VizagDude:
Can We get BareBone with Touchflow and EZinput KB???? Pleeeease.

The above 2 are a MUST for me and I cannot get them in a Cab. (EZinput cab never worked for me).

I know there is the Slim version... but it does not have EZ input. May be you want to call this one Bone with little Flesh :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
As already told the old cab file hasn't worked well, the new one should do its job just fine. I will make a manila cab file ready, as so many of you want to use manila.

€dit: I have built two version, one containing the manila files as they are included in the stock rom, and one with compressed image files, which is about 8 megabytes smaller in size.

I haven't tried them, because I really hate Manila, just report any bugs.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] DarkWolve:
hey

i tried the new ezinput linked on the first post, but it doesnt work either! And i really need a german input, i cant wirte msg, emails or blog like this!

and i just wondered if you'd include the new Quartz d3d ati driver. Seems it is faster then the ati d3d driver
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mini_z_racer:
Hi John, thank you so much for your prompt action!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mini_z_racer:
I found there is a slim version but it is not v1.5. :-)

I also tried the "Blackstone - Manila (compressed).cab" and I get an error msg regarding the cab is not signed, even I tweaked my HD to "not-certified warning". But the non-compressed version is okay.

BTW, is there a way to get HTC Album & HTC Audio Manager?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Personally I'm using SPB Keyboard, but since the EzInput has worked for the other guy, I don't think that its a problem with the cab itself.

They are already included in version 1.6 (unreleased), but they aren't faster at all.

No problem :).

I would really appreciate it, if you could read some posts above yours, the slim version is 1.1, but its based on the same core, so its still up to date.

I have compressed it using the cfg editor published here in the forums. I will remove it as it doesn't work. I guess its a problem with the patching of the Manila executable, but haven't the time to make further investigations on that.

Sure it is, I will attach them in the first post again.

€dit: Attached them, but as usual not tested it, so maybe it doesn't work. Just report back.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mini_z_racer:
Thanks John and sorry for my lazy as I didn't read all 11 pages carefully...

Thanks again for the 2 new cabs and I'm happy to be a tester, will keep you posted the result.

Kevin
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Thats just fine, my device runs so fast and stable right now, I don't want to mess it up by installing things I actually don't need ;).

So, any complaints?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mini_z_racer:
hahaha... no complain at all, they are running smoothly. :D

and hope to see your v1.6 soon.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] enyaj:
Hi John,

I can't seem to send an MMS through. Would that be because of my network provider or is this a bug? thanks!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Hard to say. I haven't tried sending a MMS yet (nor did I ever in my life :)), but the Arcsoft MMS application is still in the rom, so maybe your settings are wrong.

Were you able to send MMS with any other rom?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lynne02191:
hi johnpatcher,

I've installed your slim 1.1 version, and I'd like to know:

how can I associate 'browser'(within 'internet' tab) with ie or opera, and make them as the default browser?

thanks :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
What exactly do you mean? I think the links will be opened with the default browser, don't they?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lynne02191:
sorry that I didn't explain clearly

the problem is:

after I installed your slim 1.1 version,

I found the 'Browser' within 'Internet' tab does not has any internet browser association.(there is nothing poped up evertime I press the button)

so I'm just wondering is there any way to solve this problem?

or others don't have such a problem?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
I guess you will have to install Opera in the "\Windows" directory, or change the appreciate Manila file.

But as I'm not using Manila any more I can't tell you for sure.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lynne02191:
ok, I'll try to reinstall the ROM and see if there is any difference
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lynne02191:
I've just re-flashed the ROM, but the problem's still existing :(

never mind, I'll get over of it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] enyaj:
Yes I was able to send MMS before on official ROMs. I just used the settings from the auto configuration wizard. Do you think I need to configure it manually? The Barebone 1.5 is very nice by the way. It's way faster than any ROM I have tried. Thanks!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
I'm sorry, but I think there is nothing I can do about it at the moment.

At least you could try it :). Is there some kind of error message?

I don' think thats the major argument to use this rom :). And after I have applied already a lot of tweaks to many roms and devices I have to say that "performance" is relative.

You can boost some operations, but in most cases some other will get slower, so making a "performant" rom is about finding the right balance between all the tweaks that are circulating here.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] baller4ever:
googlemap cant not be installed!

thanks for the great work! it's indeed very fast!!!

However, when i am trying to install the latest googlemap with latitude, I couldnt manage to do so as whenever i click the .cab file it says install unsuccessful, any ideas on this?cheers
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
I have installed it without any problem, so it must be something specific to your device (or the software you have installed on it). Have you uninstalled any other versions of Google Maps?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] knudsen81:
you rom is very nice, but where can i find the htc phonepad and the other two qwerty???
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Look at the first post, you will find a link to the the IMEs there.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] utnicki.h:
Hi johnpatcher,

when your new is possible?I'm waiting patient:)

Regards
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
I'm still using 1.5, its stable, its fast and its simple.

Why do you want a new release :)? Is there something missing?

I will release a new rom, as soon as there will be a new official rom, which I can take as base.

I'm not keen on patched (instable) hybrid roms, which are flying around here in the last couple of weeks ;).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vangrieg:
johnpatcher, your signature now says "Barebone 2.0", what's that?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
That will be the next version. I have running it on my device, and testing it right now.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Gadget190@aim.com:
DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS IT HAS TROJAN!!!! I ran the .exe file and windows one care caught the virus twice!!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
Sorry, thats totally not true.

In my archives there are two files, the BLACIMG.nbh and the CustomRUU.exe in order to flash the rom.

CustomRUU.exe is known as a false positive, which is discussed here.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] DaveShaw:
It's not a trojan. The Custom RUU is a false positive.

Just use the NBH image and either flash via the SD card or use the RUU Wrapper I made up : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=435110

Dave
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
I'm proud to announce the next version of my Barebone 2.0. Read the first post in order to gain some more information.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] refaey:
Any chance of doing the same for WM6.5 please?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnpatcher:
To be honest, I never saw WM 6.5 yet, and have no need to deal with it, but maybe I will work with it somewhere in the future :).