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[XPERIA X1 General] n4v1n:
It seems somewhat likely that the X1 will get the update as we haven't heard a word from sony about any software updates whatsoever. What's the use of the software update utility if no updates are made? Maybe they haven't released anything because they have to wait until 6.5 is announced.
[XPERIA X1 General] rosebud:
Windows 7 beta 1 is better than Vista full stop ;)

Cant wait for WM7... getting bored of the same old same old now.....................
[XPERIA X1 General] johnchan78:
More likely, since they've parted ways with HTC, they've abandoned updating the Xperia X1, so not only will we not see Windows Mobile 6.5, we won't even get any firmware updates, like the retarded problem where turning off WIFI also turns of Bluetooth at the same time, or where Bluetooth keeps turning off by itself (workaround is Mortscript, but why do we need workarounds?!), etc. etc.

The HTC Touch HD has ALREADY had 2 or 3 updates, and it was released later than the Xperia X1. Where are the Xperia updates? NONE. NADA. ZIP.

I have an Xperia X1 but I'm starting to feel mighty bad here... I'm not feeling any love from HTC or SE and I doubt (and I hope I'm wrong) that we will see any updates, ever, for our machines.
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
If You'll be right, that would make me forget SE forever... And HTC too.

In fact I use SE smartphones over 3,5 years and they always had miserable problems with proper upgrade.

If you say HD had already 2 upgrades, something is definitely wrong here.

If they will screw it, oooh.... Class action I think.

Anyway, maybe you're wrong.
[XPERIA X1 General] johnchan78:
Well, don't forget it is SE who contract HTC to build their phone... so really, it is the responsibility of SE to tell/order HTC to release the firmware or fix. We should not be chasing HTC for a fix for the SE phone, so you cannot blame HTC in this case.

Regarding the HTC Touch HD, yes, it's had a few updates to fix small issues people were having. The point is that if the Xperia X1 had the same problems, we would never see a fix.

On the same hand, I'm quite sure that if the HTC Touch HD had the bluetooth-turn-off problem that our Xperia X1's have, HTC would have already released a firmware update weeks/months ago as soon as they found the problem.

I'm losing faith here... fixing the Bluetooth problems in the X1 really shouldn't be that hard, but the fact that NOTHING is released or fixed gives me the feeling that all is lost for the X1 :-/
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
^^^ So you think they screwed it??

Somehow it would be like Harakiri...

Regarding HTC - yes, SE is responsible for the device.

I just mean it would be not too hard for HTC to make it all difficult for SE, if they take part in it,

and now they part ways...
[XPERIA X1 General] ITMASTER:
Why you think that we are using SE phone it's just a name carved on back and front panel in reality we use HTC
[XPERIA X1 General] shadowmike:
m i athe only one who doesnt care wether htc or se release updates ?

there will be chefs here doing htc and sonys jobs.

and where is this site or document that states htc and sony are no longer in buisnes. why is the x1 still being produced with new roms ? did you notice alot of the files are from august 08 but then some other stock roms the files are from october.. mixed with the august files ?? meaning updates the the rom..

also posting this with the x1 i love the phone... SE and HTC made a great product. and as i dont use bluetooth but to sync to my comp i dont even think i have a bluetooth problem
[XPERIA X1 General] shahbazkhw:
I think Xperia would get WinMo 6.5, Sony has the balls to pressure microsoft into doing so
[XPERIA X1 General] derliebewolf:
A developer of our local german forum said SE will bring a irmware Update in the upcoming "weeks" wahtever that may mean...
[XPERIA X1 General] domyue:
I'm just most looking forward to the cooked ROMs that incorporate 6.5! I had the vox before the X1 and I managed to get 'Gonzo's windows 6.1' on it.. it worked fine even though the vox was released with just 6.0

Great work being done here by chefs
[XPERIA X1 General] at45:
Those screenshots are fake. They're using some of Apple's icons.
[XPERIA X1 General] v1rone:
You certainly did.

I'm hoping the focus of the new 6.5 isn't on it's "looks", that's all. Functionality is much more important.
[XPERIA X1 General] NotATreoFan:
There is no question that Windows Mobile 6.5 will be released for all current generation HTC devices. [Source: My Common Sense]

The Kaiser shipped with WM6, and sure enough, WM6.1 came as an official release from HTC within 3-6 months of Microsoft unleashing it. Because WM6.5 is more of a basic upgrade (as opposed to WM7 being all new down to the kernal), current generation devices will be able to run it.
[XPERIA X1 General] emuneee:
Just for clarification, the SE-HTC partnership will end when the X1's business cycle is completed. So HTC is still making X1s for SE and will continue to do so for a while.

Also, just because HTC manufacturers the device doesn't mean they own the software. With that said I am not to hopeful that SE will released a firmware upgrading the X1s to Windows 6.5. I hope SE will prove me wrong though. :p
[XPERIA X1 General] fards:
someone's built a blueangel rom with 6.5 in it..
[XPERIA X1 General] twe69:
more info here about it:

http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=2531

And says beta and not the whole OS....
[XPERIA X1 General] dingolino:
I would love to see an update from SE, but I do not believe it.

I remember one comment from SE when I had my P990 (which was a complete desaster after the nice P800, P900 and P910) that the device is annouced as it is, new features are not planned.

WM 6.5 would bring new features and therefore I do not think that SE will invest any money for an exisiting X1 system.

I would be more than happy if I am wrong

This thought was one of my concerns I had before I bought a X1 and not the Touch HD.

For me the X1 suits better than the Touch HD and I still like the my X1.

My hope was the close hardware between X1 and Touch HD, that both are manufactured from HTC and than the support of this forum that if not officialy by SE than by xda developers WM 6.5 for the X1.

I hope that this will be possible.

On the other side if SE will offer no upgrade for WM 6.5 and will change the developing partner in the future for futuer WM devices (which is confirmed allready), than the X1 will be the 1st and last WM device for me from SE. Because I have not seen any other cummunity than XDA which is giving this strong support for devices and the tolerance of the manaufacturer (HTC) to accept this as a real benefit because this is free support for them and is helping to improve the product.

Again: I hope that I am wrong, but realisticly:

Go Dutty go and all the other rom cookers, please make it happen :D

dingolino
[XPERIA X1 General] qulo:
Hi everyone..

I think That it's unbelivable that SE didn't release a new firmware after 4 months..so the solution of my mind are 2:

1 SE wait for wm 6.5 and go to release a new 6.5 firmware

2 SE don't understand anything about users and don't do any firmware upgrade because it's not important for them..and so I KILL THEM ALL!!!:eek::eek:

QULO :)
[XPERIA X1 General] mkouk:
having had a P800i, P900i and P990i i would most definitely go for the latter. SE is known for denying OS upgrades to its smartphone range (UIQ) simply because they want to release a new device instead and they don't care about existing customers.
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
The hope is in the fact all of the mentioned before smartphones by Sony Ericsson were actually having few FW upgrades,

P990 about 5 or more, P1 - 2, I think.
[XPERIA X1 General] vikino:
Only thing i want from WM6.5/7 is better HW support for Qualcomm, i know that is not problem only M$, but it will be nice. So many devices with Qualcomm and no fine drivers (DLL's)...
[XPERIA X1 General] init66:
hope so... however, it's not my experence with microsoft for past 10 years... :(
[XPERIA X1 General] clburns1:
remember when wm6.0 got upgraded to wm6.1? I have noticed on the titan and hermes that there was a significant increase in speed! It ran much faster and much smoother when I did the upgrade to wm6.1. Their improvements have been amazing for a small upgrade.
[XPERIA X1 General] jackleung:
Blame Qualcomm and forget about it. Their chipset info is close source and there is no way for others to optimized for their under perform chipset.

It's seem HTC is also giving up on Qualcomm and use Nvidia chipset for their future phone.
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
IMO nothing really interesting in those 6.5 betas...
[XPERIA X1 General] fards:
oooh yes!

if I had any cash I'd have started saving for one already :D
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
i would expect an update from sony ericsson because when i spoke to them before they said that they are working on an update - that was a while ago but surely she wouldnt have said that out of the blue.

an update will come eventually - we're just gunna have to wait. - i suppose they dont want to release lots of updates and get people confused - they'd rather just have one big update :)
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
On wmpowerusers,

one sentence made me a bit angry - they say PIE 8 "BENEFITS" from lack of scrollbars!

SH*t, it's the fastest way of navigation on big files! Imagine DOCUMENT without it!

It already makes me nuts on OMobile 9.5...
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
it might be good to have an option to choose but in all fairness it does mean getting the stylus out - maybe there is a better way?
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
Yeah, you make stylus out,

to bring it back in few minutes for something else....

Whether you make all for fingers only,

or stylus is in action so everything is optimized for it too...

I just personally don't like such inconsistent solutions.

I really love scrollbars in OperaMini and miss this on OperaMobile.....

It's so quick to go from top to bottom, without scrollbars you keep on moving like crazy to go down....
[XPERIA X1 General] lmame:
Well actually Sony Ericsson France kinda assured me a new firmware would be available before the end of january.

Though no news about what would be fixed in the process and since there wasn't any "bluetooth" problem in their database... :p

As a WM 6.5 for X1i that's weird, I thought I read somewhere that it would be only for new smartphones because it would need more power (said when the first screenshots of Pocket IE 6 came).

Though of course it's kinda not true since some custom ROMS already exist with it inside ^_^
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
^^^ More power?

So you mean new devices only?

'Cos Xperia is one of the strongest..
[XPERIA X1 General] derliebewolf:
Regarding the BlueAngel WM6.5 ROM: these are old files inteded for the WM6.1 Update but tey were not used (don't ask why)...somehow somehon got his hands on those old files...Only thing funny: it runs on the old BA :)
[XPERIA X1 General] Jabe:
If WM6.5 is to be out next month, Xperia will of course be able to run it. However, I would not count on SE to make an official update with it. Given the SE history, they will rather announce Xperia 2 and try to make you buy a new phone.
[XPERIA X1 General] lmame:
That's what they said at the time :p

And yes I wouldn't count on an official update too ^_^
[XPERIA X1 General] toxical:
there hasnt been any update to the X1 and there probably will never be one, no way WM 6.5 is coming from SE to the X1
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
Hmm, this I don't agree.....
[XPERIA X1 General] tarnaman:
as i saw, htc has officially anounced the wm 6.5 update for the touch hd. hopely sony does that, too ^^
[XPERIA X1 General] contaygious:
How do we know we will even get an update?
[XPERIA X1 General] lmame:
Don't know... I'll ask SE support tomorrow, I'm pretty sure they'll tell their favorite answer "we have no entry on this matter in our database" :D
[XPERIA X1 General] Jabe:
That gives me some hope, but am not getting to excited.
[XPERIA X1 General] lmame:
Ok I had SE support and it's quite funny.

So, according to them, the Bluetooth problem was actually a feature, a power saving option :D

Though it seems it's so stupid it "should" be undone in a new firmware (release date unknown).

As for Windows Mobile 6.5 :p no news on that.
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
Imame

We don't even know when WM 6.5 will be released, it's not here YET,

so why do you expect SE to tell you anything about the upgrade??

Illogical.....
[XPERIA X1 General] lmame:
Lmame :)

Q3 2009 and anyway the beta is already there, 6.5 will be officially unveiled at Barcelona next month;
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
Ok, sorry for the name :)

Anyway, month at least to unveil....

So, SE will not say anything earlier...
[XPERIA X1 General] lmame:
No problem, it happens all the time ^_^

Yeah we'll see ;)
[XPERIA X1 General] Nocturnal310:
haha..ya we can only hope.

UI is not much a problem for me..

i need speed, lower bugs and better performance overall
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
sony never updates there software( aprt from making it run smoother and even those updates are rare) maybe if sony release an x2 or x3 on wm6.5 it could be converted or from a htc product. im more interested in the sky apps and im wondering if they will work with 6.1?
[XPERIA X1 General] jianwei87:
Just get the email reply from Sony Ericsson Support

However as of yet Sony Ericsson have no plans that we are aware of to update the X1 for Windows Mobile 6.5.
[XPERIA X1 General] jianwei87:
Hope they will announce to the Xperia. Hope got improve.
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
Strange grammar...

So, they are aware and possibly willing to update??
[XPERIA X1 General] Halphaeroth:
I work in a completely different industry but normally when a customer asks if we're going to change something or do something and I either know but can't say or simply haven't heard that we'll do anything (ie, we can't say yes as we aren't allowed or don't know) the most common start on my response is "we currently do not have any plans to..." This is normally taken as "NO" by customers. While I don't exactly work in CS, they pretty much do the same.

Plus we're talking CS here, they're not very likely to know what will happen in the future. Not saying I think we'll get 6.5 or that we won't get it, just saying CS will not be the ones to tell you either way unless they are conveying a message from someone else in SE. :cool:
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
Good point.

Plus I just don't imagine a scenario where let's say all HTC and other brands get it but X1 not.

Anyway, half a year to wait!
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
X1 phone worth £500 and if i dont see any support at all then im not having none of that - i'll get a different phone on the account of the bluetooth problem - i'm sure they will update it - its clearly just taking them a long long time.
[XPERIA X1 General] acopacop:
i really hope we get this update man.

it would totally make me hate my phone if we dont get this.
[XPERIA X1 General] joej:
If not, someone here will cook it for sure. Thanks XDA Devs!
[XPERIA X1 General] fards:
wm6.5 is supposed to be RTM in april, so well have it (touch wood) along time before a device lis released with it on
[XPERIA X1 General] itje:
yup

:)
[XPERIA X1 General] fards:
I can speak greek...

Alpha Beta :D
[XPERIA X1 General] satchef1:
I'm sure Microsoft will make sure a copy "leaks" in to this community long before a handset appears with the OS on, we make cheap and thorough Beta testers. Of course it "won't" have come from them and they'll be "horrified" to the point of almost, but not quite, asking XDA Devs to remove all links.

Crackberry get exactly the same treatment from Blackberry, quite a nice mutual partnership really.
[XPERIA X1 General] psp786:
Cant wait to have it running on my phone
[XPERIA X1 General] orangedavie:
When 6.5 comes out, will it be released by chefs here, Ive seen all the htc stuff releaased for x1 and wondered how the law sat on cooked roms. Main thing being WINMO 6.5 can xda developers get shut down for releasing it? ala torrent sites
[XPERIA X1 General] Scott Whitmore:
Not sure if anyone has asked this. But when someone releases a 6.5 ROM, will we still be able to use the panal interface.
[XPERIA X1 General] sultanofsumar:
According to BoyGenius and Engadget when it was shown that it would be released at the conference it was also said it would not be available for and phone currently on the market. The first phones to see it will be the diamond2 and touchpro2, so we will get a ported version only.
[XPERIA X1 General] T0XiK:
according to

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/014/1051014/win-mob-myphone-launched

"People who currently run Windows Mobile 6.1 on their phones may even be able to push for a free upgrade from their handset vendor (like HTC for instance), depending on their phone model, according to Mightysoft."
[XPERIA X1 General] SquidgyB:
TP2 has pretty much exactly the same hardware as all the other recently built HTC devices, including the x1. I doubt there will be any problems porting 6.5 to any of the older devices using Qualcomm 72xx chipsets.
[XPERIA X1 General] Nocturnal310:
so any news if SE is gonna give X1 a WM 6.5 upgrade?

also..can we expect WM6.5 on our current X1 models? ..or shud we buy new units?
[XPERIA X1 General] artesea:
SE will never release an official 6.5 firmware for the X1. For starters the "Windows" key is missing, and they need a reason for you to buy the X2/3/5.

But expect a cooked ROM to appear once 6.5 is fully released.
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
Artesea, you mean the hardware key necessary to operate WM6.5?

I wouldn't cry anyway since X1 pretty complete device.
[XPERIA X1 General] achmed20:
actualy the windowskey is NOT missing. its on the Hardwarekeyboard.

the question is, is this enuough to fullfill M$ reqs?
[XPERIA X1 General] Xkan:
Hmmm, I hope we will get WM 6.5 from SE, I hope they can make it possible, I don't want to have the support ended :(
[XPERIA X1 General] contaygious:
Looks like a NO GO :(

http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/editorial-ten-reasons-why-windows-mobile-6-5-misses-the-mark/

"You probably can't upgrade your phone.

Guess what? If you want to use 6.5 on your device... well, you're probably going to have to buy a new device. According to Microsoft, no device older than what was launched this week at MWC will be eligible for an upgrade. That's right, not your new Touch Pro, Touch Diamond, Xperia X1, Shadow, or Treo Pro (assuming you can find one anyway). Furthermore, the company is saying that no phone without a Start flag hardware button will be eligible for 6.5, so you might want to put those TG01 plans on hold for a moment (even though Toshiba claims it will be running 6.5... maybe they're going rogue)."

Are you frikin kidding me!? 6.5 doesn't even come out until the end of the year LAME!
[XPERIA X1 General] skycamefalling:
I can't understand all the talking about WM6.5.

WM6.1 is running good on Xperia and I'm using the SE-Panel so I never see the Microsoft today screen.

Will there be new features except a few cosmetic changes that would make WM6.5 interesting for me?

I think I will exchange my phone for a new one as soon as WM7 is released.
[XPERIA X1 General] leobox1:
yeah. does WM 6.5 has any good features? However i am really doubtful of SE's update. As of now, my country have not even released the latest firmware :(
[XPERIA X1 General] SquidgyB:
LOL. Maybe sooner than we thought:

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12132&Itemid=38
[XPERIA X1 General] Xkan:
Ohoh, that doesn't sound nice, I would like to see the new features of 6.5 on my X1! I hope SE will support it, I know 6.5 isn't a big thing, but I want to have support at least in the first year after the release of the X1...
[XPERIA X1 General] JKingDev:
I am sure we will have wm7 for xperia before any devices come out with it. ;)
[XPERIA X1 General] Nocturnal310:
if SE releases X2 under my X1's warranty period..i ll push them to get a free upgrade...because i am still not happy with video playback.

whats the point of having 800X480 resolution when it cant handle it
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Devjr:
Hello,

I am trying to get OpenVPN working on my HTC touch HD, but I'm having a lot of problems.

Since there isn't the systray because of TF3D, I have to launch the ovpncmgr manually.

Sometimes it launches, sometimes it doesn't...

When I suceed launching it, the program crashes when I try to set up the VPN connexion.

Could someone help me please ?

Thanks
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Devjr:
I solved my problem myself, you must deactivate TF3D to see the systray.

The you can use openVPN, it works through my operator proxy like a charm !
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] shax:
Thanks for sharing that with us :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] jalv3000:
Hi Devjr ,

I also make it work, deactivating TF3D.

But have you managed to route all the connections using the VPN ?

I mean I can't use for example remote desktop through it,

It tries to make the connection without using the VPN
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] eye69:
I've just tested Remote Desktop over OpenVPN on a Touch HD, and it worked fine. I've also tested PuTTY to another machine on the LAN, and that works fine too.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Fallen Spartan:
Solution found, thread closed
[Touch HD General] jackal_sk:
Hi guys,

I was doing bit a study about this ROMs but still is hard to choose! Threre are so many ROMS. :confused:

Which one would you recommend?? :confused:

Which one is the best,stable and fast ???? :confused:

Thnax in advance!
[Touch HD General] vinumsv:
I would Recommend Dutty's Rom (I haven't tried others :D ) , its fast and feature packed ram

and see the poll of this month that should tell why i opted for his work :D
[Touch HD General] jackal_sk:
Yeah that one seems okay to me as well.

But is it fast enough?? Never hang up or something?? All applications works on fine??
[Touch HD General] DaveShaw:
Hi there,

There is no best ROM, It's all personal prefernce, please try a few and you'll soon find your favorite.

Why did I close this thread? Answer

Thanks

Dave
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] puhonder:
Hi all,

I've searched the whole forum for such an application but had no luck.

You know there are some application (callcheater,soundcover) for symbian that add background noises when you are in a call. For example traffic jam, airport , door bell ...

So , I 've came accross on such application working on WM, but there

is a problem. It needs eVB (eMbedded Visual Basic RunTime) to run

so I cannot test if it works.

The application is called Gettago

Will this work ? What do you think ?
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[General Questions and Answers] thorell:
Im new to Windows Mobile and did my first Hard Reset on my Xperia yesterday. Now I am missing the programs installed on my Memory Card, for example TomTom, in the list of programs in WM. The only way I am able to access these programs is through a file explorer.

How do I fix this?

Thanks in advance // Thorell