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[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Powerbik:
Ok.. one of my last attempts to ask unfortunately. Even when removing the SD card and trying to boot from internal memory I get errors. It now does not show the memorycard 'mmc' prefix anymore in the file path but still tells me it 'cannot find '/system/bin/etc'. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand...

it fails to boot.

I hope someone can give me an answer.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daniel.hunt:
It appears as though dev on this has ceased - so there's no point in asking :(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Rumbi:
I think that's not true, because some devs are active in IRC Chan. I've contacted HTC Support via Mail and they said to contact taipei directly via phone

http://www.htc.com/uk/about-htc/phone-contact.html

Maybe someone could do that for the community. I don't want to do it because i'm not an Englisch expert and maybe someone should do this who's good in it. ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] body85:
...... you have a off RAM version from Android.... so u cant load the files witouht an SD Card because the files are on the SD card.... if u have the files on the phone.... it would not work :-)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] stoolzo:
dont waste your time

Dont waste you time, DEV has ended and this version is just pretty pictures and of no use to anyone. The problem you are having could be anything, the ROM, the Sd card and anomoly.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Rumbi:
I think xmoo's the dev, am i right? I think he said in anothe rthread that he's a lot of work to do for school but this doesn't mean that he'll stop development. but as i said, some other devs are active in the irc chan.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Powerbik:
Oh now I get it. Totally looked over that possibility :P

I end up having to get a new SD card then :( any of you know a good cheap, 16gb preferrably class 6 or 8 card?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dazza9075:
nope to my knowledge they dont exist yet, 16gb class 2-4 are all ive found.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] body85:
yap, only 8GB with class 6, 16GB only up to class 4. look to amazon i think this is cheap and good :-)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] 1337_V1k1n6:
Drivers

I have made yet another effort to contact HTC technical support in order to get the drivers, will let you know if i achieve anything..

I would really love to have Android up and running on my HD

Cheers :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] stoolzo:
wasting your time

Your are wasting your time my friend. They are not going to release this information about a handset, never have and never will. Many have tried and failed.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] 1337_V1k1n6:
well since the postage stamp for e-mail is pretty cheap these days, I thought it was worth another attempt. :rolleyes:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bouncer:
what drivers do you exactly need then? maybe that I can help.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] stoolzo:
read the thread?

There is no longer any usefull information in the thread for developers, this thread needs condencing. What we need is a "needed for andriod" section on the DEV page where the DEVs can list everything they need and everything that needs to be done to move ahead. We should then close this thread and start a new one begging assuming we are all aware that andriod can be booted if the instructions are followed correctly as long as you are not using a transend card, this is already on the dev page.

This will prevent the constant opens questions like this that have already been answered several times.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Stormgale:
What about orux and xmoo? Have you guys stopped working on this?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] purec0de:
whoops pressed submit too many times lol.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] purec0de:
i see its 'all quiet on the Android front'

was hoping for some revelations with the release of the HTC Magic (i.e. porting over some matching drivers etc.)

just to repeat the above question.

hows things going....is it a lost cause?:confused: or is there some light at the end of the tunnel:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Snuurtje:
Guess developers have lost interest. Android 1.5 is out. has there been any testing with that?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] iamdata:
i had android 1.0 running and loved it, only wish sound worked and also memory card etc. I hope someone does port the rom from the HTC MAGIC a dual boot would be sweet!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] furrypotato:
Some of you may have noticed the leaked shots of the new HTC Hero yesterday

It doesnt have the trackball and direction pad etc and just has the basic buttons. Should be interesting to find out more details later about it. But it reminds me of the HD a lot more that the G1 or Magic....

But what it's made me think about is all these as yet unreleased HTC Android phones. I've got a feeling that the Android hardware lags behind their latest WM hardware so later this year we've still got a good chance that HTC will release a device that uses the same hardware (and more importantly, DRIVERS) as our dear little HD.

So I'd say hang in there - by the end of this year we could have our wish for fully working Android...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] core7x:
it is no other app like cygwin / linux porting to smartphone ??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xiyan2127:
Internal RAM Version

Can you pls post the on Ram version. i have been trying to boot android 1.0 but to no avail still getting no progress. thank you for the support and quick reply.:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] purec0de:
I like this!!:D..good old fashioned optimism!

role on the end of the year...don't get me wrong i love what touchflo does for windows. just really wanna 'play' with android.

will be interesting to see if it is possible to install a boot loader (like on a PC/mac) and switch between systems...i enjoy Ubuntu and (enjoy less) Vista on my PC and OSX / Win XP on my macbook.

...imaging my Touch HD with Android / WinMO...wicked

probly not gonna happen...who out there could cook a dual boot ROM...anyone??...is this feasible??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] patp:
I look in on the irc channel logs from time to time and it does seem that development is going very slowly at the moment. I think getting the audio to work properly is a very hard problem, and you have to remember that people work on this for their own interest - there are no paid full-time developers here.

Perhaps one way to get more done would be for the very knowledgeable developers to take a more tutorial approach. Currently the thinking is that smart people will figure it out for themselves, but a few basic tutorials on techniques for reverse engineering might encourage a few more brains to engage with the task. Speaking personally, I was able with a bit of help to solve some of the screen issues we had, but if Orux hadn't explained a few basics to me, I would not have been able to do a thing. Now I'd love to carry on, but I don't know what the basic techniques are. Perhaps others are in a similar position, full of potential but needing a leg up.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] purec0de:
i quite agree, i am a professional .net developer and although most of my spare time is taken with the the degree i am doing...i always seem to find time to 'play' with my phone:p.

perhaps a new thread..with a collection of these tutorials

i would love to contribute to the Android port...but its a far cry from .net

hence i have the aptitude and willingness..but need a few pointers to get started.:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] shazk21:
tutorials

i too agree we have some smart people in the community that just lack the knowlege to help i myself am a heardwear developer only basic softwear/codeing knowledge if i had a source i could easaly expand my softwear knoledge help in porting.

I think as well as an android/linux tutorial a tutorial on spl moding would be very helpful if we could modify the spl it would greatly improve running other os's. as an example if the spl was modified aproptiatly it could nativly support android as a primary os or could be modified to have a dual boot of WM and android both nativly from the rom/phones internal memmory. there are only a few dev on here that i know of that have sucessfuly modified the spl if they could perticipate in developing a new spl and/or share tutorials we could do some marvelise things.

"2 heads are better than 1" the more of us that can activly perticioarr in development the quicker and better we can make things if those willing to lern are tought this would become a reality. im quite new here but i have the community spirit fall by the wayside i hope we can turn this arround sharing knowledge, supporting the comminity in our endevors and co-operation if we work togethere we can give the community spirit new life and get development up a gear, well not only faster but better sharing ideas, sharing knowledge we can get the blackstone running at 100% of its capability, what we want how we want it.

sorry im going on a bit put im patianant and think togethere we can do great things eg we all have real lifes and if developing androit needs 10,000 houres of development and 1 guy working in his spare time you can imagine how long it would take but 1000 people working together split that into 10 houres heach evan if they only do 1 houre a day itll be finished in just over week.

thanx for putting up with my speach

unity is power
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] masr:
Hi!

Now there is an official Android-Version for the HTC-Magic:

http://www.vodafone-htc-magic.de/

Does this speed up our process?

Greetings, Masr
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bonesy:
how do you get the keyboard up to boot angstrom?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mari180:
Have taken a look there :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=486378

??? :confused:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tids2k:
go viperbjk go ... hurry up mate ... know u r doing hard work out there.. but cant wait to see jtag add + instructions to the chips :-- and fry them :) kidding ...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ASK768:
has an ETA been given yet or will it just be out whenever its done?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
I guess we should be happy if it ever comes out, by the looks of it things are going a bit slow, although its moving forward, looks like they are having some rough bumps on the road.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Il_Tera:
Hi, i'm not sure if its the right place to ask, but i'm looking for a guide or somthing similar to compile and etst Android on HTC Blackstone. I wasn't able to find anythig about that and i would like to try to run android 1.5 on this PDA

Thanks a lot
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=486378
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tids2k:
came around this good and valuable information on how to port linux/android kernel onto asus .. TO ALL THE LINUX DEVELOPERS have a look here : http://sites.google.com/site/siteofhx/Home/android/android-porting-steps/english
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sudo_x60s:
I'm sorry but how the heck shall we get a fully running Android on our Blackstone?!

This WinMo is really getting to me by now and I'm actually thinking of throwing the whole peace of **** in the garbage and never touch (haha) HTC ever again for not letting us have the info needed for porting Android to the hardware.

Nokia is coming with a new device, N900 or similar, which will run Maemo 5 with GSM support and stuff. If Android is not running on my phone by the release date of N900 where I live, Touch HD will just be another crappy WinMo memory..

Shame on you HTC.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] furrypotato:
Well we can but hope that as more and more HTC android devices get released that this will help us.

I imagine that HTC would use the same hardware from older WinMo devices to build their upcoming Android devices, so cutting down development costs.

The upcoming HTC Hero looks promising :-

http://androidcommunity.com/htc-hero-video-promo-20090529/

Notice from the home screen on the Hero that the icon's are much smaller than current phones, more like the size they appear on the HD. And the Hero's form factor is kind of similar to the HD too. So they could be only now getting to the stage of using the same hardware as out HD's.

So the Hero's Android builds could be much more compatible with our HD ?

Not that I know any of the technical stuff so dont take my word for it.

I really hope so - having played with a friends Magic last weekend I really want Android more and more.......
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BrunoBar:
Android Apps

Hello

The cupcake works great!!! My only doubt is about how to install some of the .apk files I have. I have some games and apps but i dont know how to install them. Helppp!!!:(

Using Touch HD
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] x0a:
@BrunoBar:

Where or how do I get the cupcake for the HD?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Il_Tera:
i think is better wait for android 2.0 (codename donut) which supports WVGA screens like touch hd's one
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Current version of android support wvga

Current version of android supports wvga
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Il_Tera:
Sure!?!? I've read that it supports only vga and qvga...COOL Now i MUST compile android on hd :) Maybe Hero verson is easyer to port than the standar one but i thonk than it isn't so easy to find for download
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] polarbear128:
HTC Hero

Hi,

been lurking for a while.

Just noticed this on reddit.

HTC Hero firmware working on HTC Dream

http://reviewstash.com/viewtopic.php?pid=3239#p3239
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] m3ik0:
i stuck on the boot.it is messege that sais :command timeout
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] m3ik0:
man is this a full package??god this android think needs and drivers for the qualcomm.where are they??:mad:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] body85:
u have a Transcend card? The prob with this cards are known... read the thread :-)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] globiboulga:
It works for me.

It obvioulsy is far from being a working instance of Android, but it got me REALLY excited.

KEEP ON THE GOOD WORK!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] docmehmood:
Sound problem

i installed android but i m having problem with sound, there is no sound at all, anyone can help.....?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Terrorhuhn:
Thats one of the main problems with android^^

i think sound is part of the radio... and there are no drivers for...

greets
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] moer99:
Are people still trying to improve this or is it done now??

and i just cant get into android im stuck while its loading/booting (after Haret) and i see no places for me to click for calibration??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] body85:
moved: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=524898
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] moer99:
thanks... so far i cant see any improvements there...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] farkah:
Lenny and X

i have happily installed Debian Lenny, the Arm distro, using cdbootstrap onto a SD card. It boots (with haret), network via the usb works. Things like lynx, sshd multiple screens etc work fine and i can run a instance of Apache, serve mail etc - basically its a pretty sweet little server at the moment with its touchscreen keyboard as its control. The wifi interface seems to be recognised but I can't use it but that can wait.

But i can't for the life of me get any decent graphics on it. I've tried a couple of different framebuffers but they to no avail. Much seems to revolve around some kind of pci bus issues or similar. Is there a PCI bus emulator package that I've missed somehow or some other little trick for running on the Arm architecture?

Is this the same issues that porting Android are having - getting the graphics to work? Does anyone know of an free Arm specific Xorg styled server? i found one, but developments stopped about 4 years ago for a FB version. All the packages for Gnome/KDE etc are all ported already to arm and I can run things like xterm and other X apps on a remote display so i know the binaries and libraries are fine.

am i asking stupid questions that are answered, did a quick search but couldn't find anything regarding this.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dwaradzyn:
OpenMoko has full X server. You could try booting the following rootfs to find out if it works:

http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/images/OpenMoko/openmoko.linux.rootfs.tar.bz2

Hope this helps.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] brumbrum:
Found it, sorry
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] farkah:
I'm not going to pretend that I did much more myself that was already documented. I followed the guide from the blackstone wiki, but used Lenny rather than the guide that used sid.

When using cdebootstrap, i added in the extra packages such as apache and xfce etc.

I'd <ahem> forgotten about openmoko...

but these links are very interesting, and perhaps I'm going at this the wrong way.

http://qtmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page

http://www.hackable1.org/wiki/Main_Page

http://www.gnome.org/mobile/
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] idandush:
http://www.intomobile.com/2009/09/04/htc-touch-hd-2-to-run-android.html

if this is true , once this device is out :)

it will be 2-3 sec until we will have android will all the support we need , right ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ouioui01:
yep...if only it's true...:cool:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Ultimaex:
If that is true i will not buy the touch hd2. I only want to have Android as Option not as main system.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] purec0de:
i wouldn't count on it...i read i will be using a different processor, which may mean a completely different chipset...i.e. like the current android phones only faster

hence we will have the same issue of porting over to the 1st HD's chipset

anyways, hopefully i'm wrong..i can't wait to boot android :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] felixjai:
Have you guys looked at the latest android development for Diamond/Raphael? They have made some great progress. It could mean android on our blackstones are coming to reality too.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=402002&page=355

Also, from the logs in IRC htc-linux channel, it was mentioned that sound should be already working on blackstone? take a look at this-

http://irclog.netripper.com/?chan=htc-linux&day=4

"07:19	tmzt	I wild be happy to have a working kernel with dzo userland to start with

07:19	cr2	|Jason8|Raph|: blackstone probably has working sound too. but nobody seems to be interested in a working blackstone

07:19	|Jason8|Raph|	That's too bad.

07:19	tmzt	even if rpc crashes it

07:19	tmzt	tiger should be back

07:20	tmzt	tuxhero

07:21	tmzt	AUDMGR 0x30000013"

Has anyone tried the diamond android image on blackstone successfully? I tried, but got a white screen after running default.txt from haret.exe...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] imtiyazee:
reading comments on irclog it seems there is no contact of Tux with other developers :confused:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ASK768:
I think what it said was that as a result of the progress made with the raphael, sound is now possible.

ps i guess we'll have to make this the new thread for unconstructive "is it done?" posts
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dwaradzyn:
I have built the kernel for blackstone from latest sources and tested it. It currently does not work - lcd gets all white a few seconds after boot. According to cr2 there is something wrong with lcd setup. Maybe someone with a little skills could compare current lcd setup code with the working one (look for orux patches)?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cr2:
blackstone (blac100) is more or less a diamond (diam100) with a bigger LCD and a different

LCD controller. The diam100 patches for initializing LCD (power and registers) have broken

the bootup process of raph100 and blac100. Since sound support has nothing to do with LCD,

it should work (or not work, look at the "Linux on Diamond" aka "NOT YET WORKING" thread)

in exactly the same way as on diam100 and raph100.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] proace069:
I am wondering how it is possible to run Android on HD?. Android doen´t support WVGA .

We might wait for the HTC TOUCH HD 2, with new Android 2.0.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ASK768:
Android donut does support WVGA. see here:

http://www.eetindia.co.in/ART_8800574213_1800001_NT_ca341193.HTM

As for waiting for the Touch HD 2, there wouldnt be any gain as the hardware would be different. in fact, it has already been confirmed to have a 628MHz processor instead of the 528 that we have now.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] idandush:
ASK768 ,

other than the processor speed , all the hardware should be the same , no ?

will that not be what we need to port the android ?

in terms of screen drivers , sound drivers , internal clock drivers , etc .. ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ASK768:
not quite.

it has been already confirmed to have a capacitive touch screen and we cant really say anything about everything else as few details have been released.

however, just because its a touch hd 2, we cant assume it will have a lot in common with the touch hd, just because it is in the same line of products. that said, im sure we can always use things like UI from the THD2 with it being wvga and all (as opposed to HVGA like in all previous android htc devices).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lambstone:
Guys, from my understanding, Tux is working on the linux kernel for blackstone right? And android makes use of the linux kernel to work. So if that is the case right, that means so long as the linux kernel works on wvga, android would hence work on wvga right? Also once the linux kernel is usable, would it mean that everytime a new android is released, it would be very easy to port the new version over to the blackstone?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tids2k:
that is CORRECT !!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobdude5:
they android hero sense ui on the htc nike

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9edOQjrqag&feature=related
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] idandush:
someone saw this ?

http://stahovat.okamzite.eu/news.php?readmore=733

youtube :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFNjGtGrwjM&feature=related

i cant see cause i am at work ....

is it working ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
Thats the old port, can be downloaded in the wiki-pages.

Some things work, you can send sms and email, even make calls but the mic and speaker doesnt work so its not usable.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] patp:
Sound will be working soon. I believe most of the hard problems are solved (by cr2 and company), but it needs someone competent to implement for Blackstone. We should all encourage dwaradzyn, he seems to be having some success in compiling from recent sources.

I hate having to repeat this, but the development of this port has been going on intensively over the past months. It looks like nothing is happening for blackstone, but once you realise the similarity of diamond and raphael, you can see that huge progress has been made. It's a shame everyone got so distracted over the summer, but that should not take anything away from the achievements of the #htc-linux developers. I don't believe donations are that helpful, but if you want it quicker, club together and buy a Blackstone for cr2, tmzt, Dzo or someone.