yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] yatrg:
I am the opposite. I would rather have nothing built in and get to fine tune the setup. I have my UC set so that after the install it populates the registry with the settings/registration for each app. It is a pleasure. But that is only good if I am using the da_g kitchen. When I flash this Lite ROM, it is not truly lite, so, for example, I can not use my version of Opera, I do not know how to get rid of the HTC volume, and all the other stuff that is "added" that I either do not want or already have in my UC script.

The problem is that there are three types of folks on these boards. There are the NATF and da_g type that know the technicalities of the OS inside and out. Then there are those like me who are very technical in general, (I design and write software for a living) but do not have the knowledge about the low level details of the mobile OS, but are still pretty helpful for most other stuff. Then there are the folks who should be using the iPhone. :) We try and help them as much as we can. As a "power user", I want as much control as I can get. However, if you do that, then the newbies flashing for the first time will be lost. So we compromise. OK. Enough soap box.

In any case, I wonder what the real difference is between NATF and da_g's kitchen. I think they use the same base ROM and I know they share info and fixes. So is it only the installed apps?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] keeper22:
So if you don't know how to write software or modify an os you have to use the iphone.... That sure says something about winmo phones and the community.

Luckily everyone does not share your opinion.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
That is why there are different 'chefs' making different ROMs. You fnd the chef that makes the ROM you want. If NATF doesn't make the ROM you want, someone else does. Don't suggest the chef make his ROM to fit you.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] TurboX2:
Facebook/Youtube Uploader

Hey NATF we have a solution to this,

I just downloaded the cab that had been recently released that has the HTC Album which includes social networking.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=457101&highlight=facebook&page=2

Ive tested it out on my phone, and thus far it seems to be working flawlessly

I played youtube videos fine with the youtube client, and the album works correctly from the camera, i was able to see the pictures of facebook and the videos on Youtube fine. I was able to even watch the slideshow fine.. and damn. ur rom is fast enough to make these transistions smooth--- This just goes to show that ive been helping too many ppl out with stock Fuze's and TP's from Att and Sprint .lol

You should include this as a cab on post 4- or as a part of the rom if you like.

AND U GUYS SHOULD STOP FLAMING EACHOTHER.. ur words are a waste of space on the forum
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] yatrg:
Sorry I was not clear enough. You need to have some level of technical competence to own a winmo phone or you will end up hating it. I have made the mistake of raving about my phone to a number of friends who do not have that much technical knowledge, and I have spent dozens of hours getting them out of trouble. It has nothing to do with writing software. It has to do with being familiar with computers and windows. If you are not, then use the iPhone. It's beauty is its simplicity. You can not say that about winmo. As a matter of fact, I prefer winmo because of its complexity. However, I will no longer recommend these phones to people who will just be a burden on those of us who have the ability to tweak. It is not a lack of intelligence on their part, rather a lack of experience. By the way, this is the same (or similar) paradigm in almost anything you do. There is a tradeoff between power and ease of use. And that is what a ROM cooker has to deal with too.

To continue my thought... I am not suggesting that NATF or any other chef do anything to "fit" me. I was suggesting that if the only difference between Lite and Standard was a set of cabs, then he could save server space by putting up the Lite version with those cabs. (Like I have seen done may times on these boards over the last few years.) Maybe I do not understand enough about the way the installation process works. Maybe the programs work better if they are part of the ROM? I do not know. I was just making a suggestion. I love NATF ROMS and have been using them for most of the last 3 or 4 months. But how the hell am I supposed to "fnd the chef that makes the ROM you want" if I can't ask questions about the underlying structure of the ROMS?

And by the way, if you are going to patrol the boards and stop people from making suggestions to the chefs, you will have to comment on about half of the posts. The chef is an intelligent man. He can choose to ignore or respond at his whim. I don't think he needs a security chief.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] AskTheAdmiN:
True. We all learn by asking and as long as the question was not asked before in the thread (or on the board for that matter) you should be able to ask what you want without being flamed!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] h078:
Version 4.3

Does anyone experience issue in Opera where Gsensor minimize application from landscape and goes back to TF3D screen when reverting to portrait mode?

Also when pulling the keyboard out screen goes to phone app before showing set of icons and same when closing the keyboard.

That was not the case in V 4.2...

Any thoughts on that?

Thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] JoeWilcox:
Hey NATF, has anyone reported issues with fast blanking during a call with 4.3?

Also, anyone know of a version of the dial without the video calling option?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Tofferbear:
I did the charge overnight thing...didn't seem to help

I also did a hard-reset just in case this morning and in 5 minutes the chage dropped 2%, which is better but I would expect that within 5 minutes there should be no drop in the %. This time I didn't do anything after the hard-reset, I just let the phone sit after going through configuration. No SD card installed, but I did put my SIM card back in.

I'm getting scared I've ruined my phone. :( My wifes gonna kill me if I spent $300 on a phone that works for an 1 1/2 hours between charges.

I guess I can try going back to 4.2 but I was having battery troubles at first with that release as well...and it feels like a workaround, not a fix to the problem.

Anyone else have a suggestion on what to try? Is it possible I torched the battery itself?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Michael_514:
I second the motion! :)

This would be an awesome idea!

Integrate the the Remove Programs issue cab; put back the Upload to Facebook feature; make sure the weather database issue is fixed; disable the MS scroll; yada yada; etc. etc....

...and 4.3, here I come! :)

I would totally welcome a 4.31 type of thing!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] eras2r:
I had been using the Blackstone radios for a while. They seemed to work the best for me using the ROMs that were based off of 21XXX OS builds. Since the new official ROM has come out, I have been messing with ROMs that use that as a base. On all of these ROMs the Blackstone radios were terrible for battery. So I ended up flashing the radio that came with the official ROM 1.11.25.01. After letting the battery drain and then giving it a full charge, my battery life is back to (or at least close to) what is was on the Blackstone radios.

So try flashing a new radio...

-e
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sstrunks:
I flash 4.3 standard fuze rom last night, and it's working flawless for me.

At first it was really unstable for me, it lagged when I was doing the most basic navagating with touchflo, just testing out the basic functions such as contacts, photo, calender, etc. After a few softresets it worked fine and damn it's still fast. I would say it's better than v4.1 which was the version I upgraded from. GPS gets a fix pretty fast now, even with AGPS on. TouchFlo3D is faster than ever, and really smooth. I can view photos fine from my microSD. I haven't tried videos or music yet, will do that later today. Opera is much faster, everything is better overall.

After doing the remove program registry fix this rom is near perfect. I need to install the .cab TurboX2 posted a few post back to see if that restores the upload to facebook/youtube option for the album. Will post back again to varify if it works or not.

Thanks NATF!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
There is an entire are set up just for that. Maybe you could ask those questions there.

First stop yelling. Second, there is no flaming here and you are totally out of line for stating that. Bad boy, shame, shame on you.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sstrunks:
I just installed the 4.3 Fuze Standard rom last night, it's working flawless for me.

At first it was really unstable and laggy, I couldn't even browse around and do basic functions with TouchFlo3D. But after a few softreset it works excellent and much faster than the 4.1 rom I upgraded from. GPS gets a fix on me faster now even with AGPS on, not sure if it has anything to do with the new version, but it's better. I can view photos from the microSD card fine, haven't tried videos or music yet, will try that soon.

After fixing the remove programs issue with the registry fix this rom is near perfect. I will have to try to install the .cab that TurboX2 posted a few posts back and see if that restores the upload to Facebook/YouTube option in Album. Will let you guys know how that goes.

4.3 is great! Thanks NATF!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Tofferbear:
Battery Problems

Hmmm...I may have to eat my words. After that initial power drop it's slow'd way down to the point where it's only dropped 6% in the last 1 1/2 hours. That's very acceptable IMHO.

So it seems that doing the a couple hard-resets fixed this the same as it did in 4.2. I just don't understand how just hard-reseting changes the way the power is drawn from the device. All the same things are installed in the same order...it's the same exact hardware.

If someone understands this and wouldn't mind taking a crack at teaching this old dog something I'd really appriciate it...I hate when I don't understand something. :-\
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] josbald1975:
i looked at the Features online for AT&T Fuze video share and found this info, maybe you can try selecting the per use option in your account settings and give it a try then.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
I'll take a look at it tonight.

Haven't seen this myself. But I'm not a heavy user of my Fuze, so other people can possibly weigh in on this better.

Fast sleep seems to once again be "working" in this build. It's been a struggle with all ROMs below 209xx trying to get the fast sleep disabled.

The dialer included in the ROM is an HTC dialer, so it has native support of Video Calling. I am going to toy around with stripping the ROM down to the WM dialer and then installing PhoneCanvas by CAB during customization. If that works, then people can simply uninstall the dialer if they don't like it, and install the one they do. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
C'mon guys. There doesn't need to be a debate over the concept of Lite and Standard ROMs. Can we please leave all those comments behind this post, and none going forward?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] FUZE_User:
Hey NATF, quick question, according to BGR. Windows Mobile 6.5 might be released next week at the mobile world convention so I wanted to ask, is this ROM gonna be compatible w/ it?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] grizzlygoon:
Re

Is this with 4.3 fuze standard or 4.3 plus the kitchen files?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Jdilla:
Possible Bug

Ive done my searching and I havent found any other issues regarding this or possible fixes either. The issue is under the settings/notifications tab where you can check "Display message on screen" it is seemingly unchecking itself. Ive waited awhile to bring this up as it might be just an operator error, but its been ongoing since 4.1 if I can recall correctly. I have no other programs installed, just 4.3 standard, straight up... maybe others have noticed this issue.

STILL AN EXCELLENT ROM THO!!!:D THANKS NATF
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bpm2000:
sorry forgot to say.

i only use the lite versions.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
I think you mean Standard or Lite, since they both are built with the kitchen files.

I use the Standrad AT&T ROM and I haven't had that problem.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Stankmer:
No more rapid battery drain

So I flashed around 1900 last night, kept it on the charger until I woke up in the morning around 0700. The rapid loss is gone. I'm getting similar battery life that I did with 4.2....so far.

What I did different though, was enable all those power saver options on Advanced Config. I don't remember doing that on 4.2. Not sure if that made a difference but I can test it out some more tonight.

Edit:

Oops, just read that you're not having battery probs anymore.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Tofferbear:
Nope, I hard-reset and everything was happy after that. Bugs the crap out of me that I don't know why, but the fact that it's working is good enough I "suppose". hehehe.

Thanks for responding with your experience though. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
I am using radio 1.11.25.01 and I'm not getting a good battery result. Some days it only lasts around 12 hours.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bamf-hacker:
NATF, just tested on my FUZE with 4.3 and works great. No issues with album or the uploader.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bfspider:
Has this been answered? Did a search and didn't see much. It seems that only the home screen gets changed while the rest of the tabs have the stock wall paper burned into tf3d.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dlweston:
Oops, posted before I got to the post where Tofferbear stated he had solved his issue.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] phibo:
can't uninstall software.

Hi guys, im have 4.3 installed. I tried to uninstall a couple softwares and when I went to remove programs. There isnt any thing listed on it. Now I wonder if I have a bad flash or its a bug.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ProfessorAsian:
I just flashed my HTC Fuze from the stock AT&T Rom to the 4.3 NATF rom, I am quite impressed.

My only complaint is the performance seems to suffer from waking the device from its black screen state. For about 10 seconds it is slow and choppy. Overall the rom is a lot faster than the standard stock rom, and many of the bugs and complaints with the stock rom are resolved.

I am curious how much of a difference flashing the radio can make. I occasionally get calls on campus where the phone will ring once and then I will get a missed call notification. I am betting this is due to signal. This happens rarely.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] metal450:
You've got to be kidding.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] phibo:
nope, i even done a hard reset and its still the same
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] DrzNight:
lol you obviously didn't know what he meant. Did you read a couple ( 5- 10 if that) before posting? This is a known bug with a simple fix that came shortly after reported. Read please...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Jdilla:
I believe there is a fix natf has put out if i can remember correctly. use the search option....
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] consultant1027:
Would be really helpful if in the post where you download the .nbh there's a link to instruction on how to install for us users that aren't flashing phone ROMs all year long. I found a website that gave instructions the first time I did it but can't remember where it is and flashing ROMs is not something I want to have any guesswork involved with. Anyone want to throw me a bone? Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] consultant1027:
Okay I think I found the info. Need to instal HardSPL first than CustomRUU? Unfortunately I can't get HardSPL to install. It worked fine the first time. This is a new stock phone I'm flashing. Wish I could find the instructions that work. When I try to install HardSPL, the phone disconnects and goes black, then reconnects and then I get Error 262. Activesync works fine. Help!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Jdilla:
Try this. Its what I used and it was also my first time.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=448008

It only took me one time to get it right. I just took my sweet time....
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] consultant1027:
Yes, I just found that post right before you replied. Thanks. The HardSPL installed fine. There are so many posts regarding this process all over the place using difference versions of software. It's quite confusing.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bfspider:
Hey NATF,

I'm not sure if this is intentional or not, but, the bookmark's address for the Cellular Video in Opera might be incorrect.

http://cellularvideo.cingular.com is what is there now. Shouldn't it be http://cingularvideo.cingular.com?

Also, is there a way to get the website icons to appear next to the bookmark name insead of the black star when you're viewing your bookmarks under opera? I know it is there for monx's ROM. So, I'm wondering if it is a setting or something simple.

Thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tadevinney:
I have had this problem since stock rom. seems that we arent meant to see the pop up of the notification. seems the setting only stays 24hours then its gone. very strange.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Jdilla:
No way! I never noticed even with the stock rom. well.. natf is only one ive ever bothered using. i even check to make sure today timeout was unchecked in settings. but nada... i guess keep guessing

edit: now that i think of it even for when i recieve mms, email, and even wifi notification, pop up wont stay selected..
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sstrunks:
NATF I can also confirm this works, although I've only uploaded one photo to facebook. Running 4.3 fuze standard fyi.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bfspider:
After searching for an hour. I found this: (mUn BackGround4AllPages v.02.cab) (14/10/08)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=432951

Installed cab and it works fine. Maybe NATF can include it in his ROM.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
Typo... will be sure to fix that.

I'll look into the icons.

I know that TF3D disables a lot of the pop-up settings due to the features built into it. (i.e Missed Call pop-up disabled due to Missed Call line on main TF3D screen.)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] TheWebMachine:
Well, now that I have a nice 3 day weekend to play around with v4.3, I have a few things to report.

I, too, am having unusual battery drain issues. I have removed all likely suspects from a software perspective (s2u2, etc). I have tried 4 radio versions ranging from stock to Dia to BlkSt...about to try the latest Qtz radio that has been mentioned. I know this hasn't proven itself a ROM issue at this point, but I thought I'd indicate that I'm having the issue.

The other I'm having, which is now proving quite annoying while diagnosing the battery issue, is with the "remove programs" bug. I have modified HKLM/Security/Policies/Policies/00001005 entry to both 24 and 16 but I can only see 8 apps in Remove Programs. I had to reinstall S2U2 to get it to show up so I could uninstall it properly. So, I have a number of apps (I estimate about 15, counting initial ROM cabs) missing and can't get the list to become complete. Is there another method of getting this list back? Is it necessary to apply this reg change after hard-reset, BEFORE installing anything else, in order to see the initUC cabs?

These two things aside, this is probably the best build yet! I'm so glad the SMS read and xT9 issues are a thing of the past. :)

As always, keep up the fantastic work NATF!

~TWM
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
Set it to the default of 16. It has to be set before any cabs are installed. I feel 4.4 will be one very stable ROM. NATF has made some great changes since 4.3 was put out.

As for the radio. I went to the new radio and the first day it only lasted about 12 hours. Today, I have it off the charger for about three hours and I"m still at 97%. It seems to get better each day. Go figure. I don't have a clue.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kingblind:
email notification problems

Hello,

I have the 4.2 rom which I am VERY happy with.. I only have one issue, My email notification sound does not go off on a regular basis.. It's very random (It mostly does NOT work), Which is kind of annoying.. I have looked all through the search area and couldn't find an answer for this phone with this ROM (4.2).. Does anyone else know what i can do? Is this a known problem?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] TheWebMachine:
Good to know...granted, I'm not about to hard reset after I just got everything configured for the sake of this one tiny fix. It seems that cabs installed after the fix show up just fine...I shouldn't need to manually uninstall anything else anyway.

So you are still running 1.11.25.01 and getting good performance? I just installed it, so I guess I'll see for myself. Is there a forum or wiki thread with all the rilphone.dll's (Curious, anyone play around with ril.dll?) and what radio they are native to? I would like to play with swapping the dll's to see if that has any impact on battery in a daily use scenario.

[EDIT]

Finally got around to playing with GPS. I'm having some pretty weird results here. Using GPS Test, I get one of two things, a solid 9 sats and what appears to be fantastic functionality (note: "appears"...I'll get to that.) or I get a fix that repeatedly flashes every second between having an 8 or 9 sat fix to having NOTHING! This is with v1.11.25.01.qtz radio and AGPS seems to have no effect either way. Now, when it does maintain a fix (sometimes takes several inits of the GPS), Google Maps will show a position that up to a quarter of a mile off...the closest I can get it to accurate is about 3/4 of a city block off target. Previous releases (minus longer fix times) had a very perfect fix on location.

I'm still playing around with it to discern a pattern...

[/EDIT]
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] TheWebMachine:
I know this is an "issue" I've had with multiple ROMs (I'm reasonably certain it's in v4.3, too). I sync 4 email accounts and receive about 50 messages a day...so I have mine set on vibrate only...hence, the issue has never bothered me. But I have noticed that pOutlook won't sound the alert until it is idle (not syncing an account)...so if you have multiple accounts set to download often, there may be times when it never seems to sound off because it's spending all of its time syncing accounts.

How many accounts do you sync? Are they IMAP, POP3, or exchange account(s)? (I use exchange and 3 IMAPs...I hate POP3 and its lack of features.)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kingblind:
I have a single work account at MS on Exchange that I sync.. that's a bummer that it's a known issue.. I guess I will have to set to vibrate.. Thanks for the quick reply.. Really love the NATF ROM..
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kingblind:
Thanks everyone for the great support!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] |oLo|:
anyone experiencing any longer than usual flash time? Trying to flash to 4.3 even though my signature allready reflects this

My progress bar is full but still saying "update in progress"

Normally it doesnt take this long...hope i did not miss something...time to backtrack the posts. :)

I am using the sd flash method BTW....probably should have mentioned this.

I went back and formatted the microSD....and that fixed it...maybe is was due to the other files i had on the card even though it has worked before....oh well...will post this for anyone else that may experience this.

From now on I guess i'll use an empty card.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] oneguyks:
When is 4.4 out?

I think I will wait for 4.4 ... any idea when that is comming out?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
I heard by February 29th.