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[Touch HD General] sschrupp:
Using search and such I've found lots of advice on different places to buy from, but I'm looking for some more general advice as it pertains to those of us that have to import to the United States.

1. As a US resident are there any hassles I should expect in ordering from Europe?

2. What is that VAT thing, and does it affect me? I've noticed that prices often state two amounts, one with and one without VAT.

3. I've seen people discuss getting unlocked versions, pay-as-you-go versions, contract versions and cancelling, etc. What options are available to those of us in the US? Do we have to buy an unlocked, contractless phone? Or is one of those other options involving buying a SIM, or cancelling a contract available?

4. Related to #3, I've seen mention of paying extra money to unlock the phone at some website. Will we have to do that even if we buy an "Unlocked" phone?

5. As far as warranties go, are we better off buying from a US based website or does that not matter?

6. Will our current GSM sim cards fit/work? (Yes, yes, I'm pretty much a newbie to GSM phones)

7. What's the meaning of life, the universe, and everything anyhow?

Thanks so much in advance for helping out someone new to the idea of importing a really cool phone! I've been debating between the iPhone and the Touch HD to replace my HTC BlueAngel, and I think the Touch HD is finally winning out!
[Touch HD General] tkalli:
Just Google HTC Touch HD. You will find several US based companies selling the phone. Pick a reliable company. Anyone with a price of $300-$400 is probably a scam and want payment by western Union.

Most companies will offer a warranty program. The HTC warranty for the HD is not honored in US as far as I know, since it isn't released here. Any SIM card will work in an unlocked phone. No need for a contract is your already have one and can use

the SIM card.

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[Touch HD General] ryoojin83:
I am curious about the VAT as well. No idea what that means.
[Touch HD General] galaxys:
VAT is a value added tax in Europe... If your located in the USA and order from Europe, then there is no VAT charge.
[General Questions and Answers] richinlc:
Hi all,

First, I would like to say that without xda I would hate my wing. However, thanks to all of your dedication and hard work this is the best phone I have ever owned

Second, I need rumor control please I just got off the phone with a t-mobile rep who told me in a very serious tone there may be plans in the works for a second generation wing. Namely one with 3g and gps. Can anyone please confirm or deny this rumor before i get so excited i cry.

Those options are all i would need to make my wing complete other than a faster processor which omap handles wonderfully (oc to 299 for two months with no issues) any info would be greatly appreciated

Thanks in advance, Rich
[G1 Android Development] [RiS]:
Update:

Disconnect has a new update, codenamed "holiday": http://andblogs.net/2009/02/new-adp1-update-official-with-google-voice-and-more/

It seems to add all the features from RC33. Namely:

* Google Voice Search

* Google Latitude

* RC33 Bug fixes

Disconnect provides two updates, the "oficial" one, for Stock ADP1 images, and another one without device / bootloader checks

Original post:

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just to clarify...THIS IS NOT CUPCAKE UPDATE

Just installed this "oficial" update: http://andblogs.net/2009/01/new-adp1-images-leaked/

So far, the changelog seems to include:

-Smoother, More Stable & Faster Response IN OS
-Apps restart automaticly after crashing
-The ability to skip signing-in to your google account
-An "Import Sim Contacts" option has been added to the contact menu.
-There is a "Local & Text" tab in "SETTINGS" now.
It has only "English" but other langauges probobly be added later.
-You now have an option to get the numeric dialpad with out having to slide up
the tab when making a call.
-System Updater in "Settings"
- GMail app: Now you have the ability to just sync labeled mails newer than X days.

For those of you who have tried it.. what's your experience?

Anyone tried to skip the google account setup?

I assume that calendar, gmail, IM... won't work then
[G1 Android Development] iein:
Works good.

Overall seems faster and more reliable than the previous ADP1 build.

There is now a Settings->Local & text area. Presumably this will support other languages in the future. Now only 'English' is available

When you're on a call you now have an option to get the numeric dialpad with out having to slide up the tab like before.

There is an import sim contacts option under the Contacts menu.

There is also an option to choose which groups you want to sync under Contacts.

Other than that I haven't observed any significant changes. The phone seem stable - no crashes or hangs. I've been running it for over a day.
[G1 Android Development] Preech2003:
So far these are the updated ive noticed in the new adp1.1 leaked firmware.

NEW UPGRADES:

Please Ignore the added features that others xda members have already listed, that i have listed again.

*So far, the changelog seems to include these upgrades:

-Smoother, More Stable & More Faster Response IN OS

-In Contacts you can choose what groups you want to Sync

-Apps restart automaticly after crashing

-The ability to skip signing-in to your google account

-An "Import Sim Contacts" option has been added to the contact menu.

-There is a "Local & Text" tab in "SETTINGS" now. It has only "English" but other langauges probobly be added later.

-You now have an option to get the numeric dialpad with out having to slide up the tab when making a call.

-System Updater in "Settings"

Please list any more noticable upgrades or state if any of these above are wrong...

CupCake will definately be here by the end of January.

I

Be Patient .....

PREECH
[G1 Android Development] tmrepp:
I've noticed you can no longer adb remount...
[G1 Android Development] tmrepp:
Fyi, to get back the ability.. either wait for JF to release a modified ADP 1.1...or unpack system.img and edit default.prop so default.ro is set to 0, instead of 1...then repack it and flash it over using FASTBOOT.
[G1 Android Development] momentarylapseofreason:
This is nice to hear! JF.... you cranking away on an update???? :):):)

Thanks RIS
[G1 Android Development] Mi|enko:
How does 1 do that?
[G1 Android Development] jashsu:
It should be possible to open the file in a hex editor and change the bit. No need to mount the img file to open it up.

Could pbb also just create a script in /system/bin named remount that contains the commands to remount /system.
[G1 Android Development] Mi|enko:
Any way to enable adb after the img is already installed?
[G1 Android Development] jashsu:
adb is still enabled, and you can perform root commands by su-ing. The only thing you can't do off the bat is adb remount. You can't alter ro (read-only) properties once the system is booted.
[G1 Android Development] Mi|enko:
Oooh. I get it. So, I hooked my phone up, I did adb shell, and it popped up with "$" like in TE. Then, I typed "su" and voila. Just a little different than what I was doing before, but the same outcome nonetheless.
[G1 Android Development] momentarylapseofreason:
Does this wipe the phone before installing or does it simply over-write the changed files?

Reason I am asking is I would hate to keep killing all the settings I have (tether, cache etc) every time a new update comes out.
[G1 Android Development] Mi|enko:
It didn't wipe mine when I first loaded it, but it ran like **** so I wiped. (****, wipe, get it? lol)
[G1 Android Development] [RiS]:
I can't see any big inprovements regarding speed...maybe is just me :)

However I'm having some issues with 3G configuration. It seems that the setting 'Use 2G networks only' is not properly remembered. (Sometimes it is, sometimes not, I haven't seen a clear pattern..)

I believe that the option to choose what contact groups to sync whas already there in 1.0. Can anyone with v.1.0 confirm this?
[G1 Android Development] lu_tze:
Does it work this time? It was in 1.0, but when you added new contact on the phone, it was not added to the chosen group - after sync, it just disappeared, you had to go to gmail through web interface and put the contact into the "right" group by hand. Very annoying.

Edit: Yes, RiS, it was there: Contacts, Menu, Settings, Sync groups. Another choice is Contacts, Menu, Display group.
[G1 Android Development] hr00st:
what about A2DP? is it working?
[G1 Android Development] dixxa:
Is it really better than JF 1.31 upgrade ???
[G1 Android Development] emudojo:
I'm getting this message when trying to apply it

Right Now Im running Jp1.31 over my ADP1

Any help will be really appreciated
[G1 Android Development] dixxa:
Using fastboot? Its not an update.zip, its a bunch of fastboot images. Check out http://andblogs.net/2008/12/fastboot-cheat-sheet/
[G1 Android Development] emudojo:
I see I though it was a regular update.zip :P... trying fastboot later Today thanks :D
[G1 Android Development] dixxa:
you're welcome :)
[G1 Android Development] [RiS]:
How do you add a contact to a group from the mobile phone?

Removed from top post

It's not the same. JF ADP1 images are based on the stock images. This is an update to the stock image, but lacking all the stuff that JF put on its custom images
[G1 Android Development] dixxa:
so I better stay with my JF 1.31 for now ?

I made so many changes to my phone I dunno if my nandroids backup would be usable .
[G1 Android Development] brandenk:
If I flash this will I loose root or anything? Aside from the time factor of wiping your phone is there any limitation to using this?
[G1 Android Development] [RiS]:
Just check the changelog on the first post and see if it's worth it for you :)

Who knows, maybe JF will make a new image with this update...

So far, ADP1 images are root-enabled.

I was using ADP1 stock image and didn't need to perform a wipe when applied this

Anyway, theoricaly you could perform a backup using nandroid, try it, and if you would like to return where you were, flash back all the partitions.
[G1 Android Development] brandenk:
Ok, so this is my first time sending something to my phone via fastboot. I can get my phone to the bootloader with the skateboards and I hit back and get fastboot on my screen but where do I type commands to send things to my phone?
[G1 Android Development] [RiS]:
two options here:

If you are on linux, download and build the android source. Once build, there is a dir under out/ with fasboot binary (I can't remember know exactly where, I can look it later if you need it)

If you are on windows, I recall seeing in this forum someone who has compiled fastboot for windows.

Once you have fastboot, simply run

$fastboot flash xxxx xxxx.img

replacing XXX for every file in the zip file but misc.
[G1 Android Development] neoobs:
On linux it is in out/host/linux-x86/bin I believe... I will double check right now.
[G1 Android Development] deprecate:
Been using this for a day or two now and LOVE IT.

Perhaps it's the placebo affect but I did notice a speed increase after a wipe/fresh install.
[G1 Android Development] dixxa:
did you managed to restore your settings ?
[G1 Android Development] Sarvatt:
Can anyone tell me if there is a ttyHS0 device in /dev in this image? ls /dev/ttyHS0 should work to see. High speed bluetooth tethering would be something to make me switch :)
[G1 Android Development] [RiS]:
no, there isn't :(
[G1 Android Development] bofslime:
hrm, I don't seem to have an out/ dir in my build dir, I can only find fastboot lib's under system/core

little help?

nvm, i'm an idiot, I havn't compiled android yet.. haha.. ignore me

edit again: flashed and updated, works great
[G1 Android Development] airsonic:
I'd like to try this one out, but I don't know how to get fastboot working. Can't find instructions anywhere.
[G1 Android Development] [RiS]:
I've noticed that the call log does not remember correctly the duration of the calls (it appears 00:00). Anyone else experiencing this?

Edit: I've found that Gmail app now has a sync option that allows to sync never, all mails, and "X days" (which means mails just mails newer than X days).

I've found this because some mails that appeared on my web Gmail inbox didn't appear on the Android app.
[G1 Android Development] bekriebel:
No - my call log is appearing fine.

Huh... that's obscurely hidden :-) I see the setting, though I still have messages in my inbox from a month ago that are still showing, even with inbox set to the default 4 days. Maybe it will remove them after four days of running the build (I only flashed yesterday).

-Brint
[G1 Android Development] darek214:
ok so i need some help.

im pretty sure im almost there...im trying to get the adp1 on my modded RC30 because i read that its faster and has some updates. i installed all the necessary software and i downloaded the android sdk but im stuck on how to enter fastboot and actually install the update.zip. so here is wat i did...

1. i connect my phone to the comp. throught usb.

2.i enter dev bootloader (back+power)

3. I get a message sayin "Fastboot" so i know im good on the phone part.

4. Now this is where idk wat to do...i enter the cmd line...i enter the sdk>tools directory...and then i type "fastboot update update.zip" but i get an error msg sayin "failed to load update.zip".

5. So than i tried puttting the update.zip file in the same directory as the fastboot.exe but then i get somethin like...."there is no android-info.txt"....or somthing like that. so now i have no clue wat to do. can someone guide me? thank you in advance
[G1 Android Development] neoobs:
unzip the update.zip file and you will see .img files. you need to flash those to the phone by using this method

fastboot flash system system.img

fastboot flash boot boot.img

repeat for each file if you like but you can skip all others but those.
[G1 Android Development] [RiS]:
splash1 and splash2 are the initial splash screens. You can ignore them if you want to preserve yours.

If you try to flash misc.img, it will return an error complaining that there is no misc partition. Seems ok to ignore it.
[G1 Android Development] darek214:
ok thank you

i did those two things and nothing else...after those 2 finished i typed in "fastboot reboot" but now its stuck on the android splash screen. wat do i do? i dont want to brick my phone =/
[G1 Android Development] [RiS]:
The first time it takes a little while to boot.

Did you perform a backup before flashing the new firmware? If so try to restore it (just boot, system and data)
[G1 Android Development] darek214:
im not sure...i dont think i did. ive been waiting for about 5 min now...its stuck on the android screen and not on the g1 screen....is it ok for me to remove the battery?
[G1 Android Development] [RiS]:
Add it to your TODO list for next time :(

Sure, it does not take THAT long.

BTW, what firmware version were you using?
[G1 Android Development] darek214:
Firmware? I updated my phone with the modified RC30 when it first came out. i have root and i installed the dev bootloader with the android skateboard...so im not sure which firmware im using but im pretty sure its the one im suppose to be using.

the weirdest thing is happening...im stuck on the android splash screen but i can change my vol. and when i plug in the usb, my alert ringtone goes off...so its as if the os is running, just behind the android splaash.
[G1 Android Development] [RiS]:
I meant what OS were you running.

It seems that you were using JF v.1.31 RC30, right?

As you are updating from another OS version, try doing a wipe. It's been reported similar issues when changing from RC30 to JF v.131 ADP, so maybe this helps.

If this doesn't work, try

1.- Return to JF v.1.31 RC30

2.- Flash JF v.1.31 ADP1

3.- wipe

4.- flash ADP v.1.1
[G1 Android Development] darek214:
i performed a data wipe...it worked!

thank you soo much man

couldnt do it without u
[G1 Android Development] neoobs:
Yea someone needs to put that in the directions... after you fastboot and reboot... wipe
[G1 Android Development] momentarylapseofreason:
Educated guess here.. but most likely the theme that is installed on the phone is causing issues and that's why it loops or freezes before wiping. If the update doesn't wipe the data from the theme completely, it causes issues.
[G1 Android Development] neoobs:
Actually I belive it is because it doesn't wipe or overwrite the userdata area of the flash. Someone should have included a userdata.img
[G1 Android Development] Linuxslate:
OK, I have a ADP1, and I know that if I have a dev phone, I am supposed to be braver than this, but I just got it, and I really like this thing, and I am a bit chicken.

1. Assuming I want to keep my splash images, can't I just type:

fastboot flashall

(in the dir with the images)

2. I downloaded a pre-built flashboot, but is there any way to build just fastboot, without building the whole android source?

3. Can someone please answer the question about A2DP. Having BT stereo would definitely encourage me.
[G1 Android Development] neoobs:
Fastboot flashall -p dream should flash all images

I believe you can just grab the source for it and compile

And no a2dp yet
[G1 Android Development] [RiS]:
If you want to keep your splash images, just type

$ fastboot flash boot boot.img

$ fastboot flash system system.img

$ fastboot reboot

And you're ready to go :)
[G1 Android Development] AndroidDev101:
Is there any way to do this on a Mac?
[G1 Android Development] [RiS]:
Sure!

Follow the instructions here: http://source.android.com/download

After building the code, you will have fastboot on out/host/mac-x86/bin
[G1 Android Development] kylebrodeur:
tar in terminal doesn't work with adb11
[G1 Android Development] bobdude5:
just use the wifi tethering
[G1 Android Development] emudojo:
I just flashed mine, yesterday... and after playing with it a few minutes I noticed some differences with 1.0

- Quick dial pad

- Filter contacts, NOW IT WORKS.. no more email addresses as contacts

- Manual Update

- More responsive

- Improved battery life (around 20%)

- TuneWiki does not force close any more :D

I'll keep testing it over the week but it looks promising
[G1 Android Development] dixxa:
Please J.F take this image as reference for your next release until cupcake come out !!! :(

I don't manage to get adb remount working

I'm on ubuntu and i dunno what to do ....
[G1 Android Development] Geniusdog254:
Amen dixxa. JF please create a modded version of this for us noobs lol.
[G1 Android Development] dixxa:
I think I've found something we need to unpack change that stupid /default.prop and repack the boot.img

but how to do this and we only loose busybox and other stuff like application on sdcard

I'll go back to JF 1.31 I loose too many settings
[G1 Android Development] [RiS]:
You need to unpack your boot image, and change /default.prop to set ro.secure to 0

Repack it and flash it again

More info here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=443994
[G1 Android Development] dixxa:
here you go i've repacked it and now adb remount is enabled :)

http://www.megaupload.com/fr/?d=KDMEDYOD
[G1 Android Development] ArronL:
I personally think the changes for the ADP image 1.1 will most likely be the changes in the rumored RC31 release by T-Mobile.
[G1 Android Development] neoobs:
The changes in 1.1 are a small portion of cupcake. It increases stability and adds very little but at the same time doesn't change much.
[G1 Android Development] humble:
Thanks Dude

ThankS:)

BTW (My take on this ADP1/1.1)

the little bits of improvements make the biggest differences.;)

is it just me or is the browser faster?
[G1 Android Development] smacknca:
I finally got around to trying this version out today (hey with nandroid its hard to find excuse not to try things out) and one BIG fix I noticed is that I can finally check email accounts that use special characters in the password. That has been a problem for me from day one, and I never found a fix for it. Even K9 suffers from the issue so I assumed it was something deep within the mail client base. In any event I am now able to check my work email without problem which is great.

If this was fixed long ago and somehow I just have missed it then hey I suck but either way I'm happy. :)
[G1 Android Development] JesusFreke:
It's in the works :)
[G1 Android Development] ArronL:
wow this image is really A LOT faster than the regular RC30 or ADP1 images. Switching back from browser = no lag. Scrolling = less lag. Everything is much snappier.
[G1 Android Development] tmrepp:
All you have to do to flash this image is use fastboot... search through the threads in this forum and you'll figure out how to... from there. Extract the .zip to the folder where adb.exe is, unless it's in windows/system32...because then it doesn't matter...so extract it anywhere you'd like. Then, run the install.bat. Simple as pie to get everything working the way it was as far as SU goes in JF 1.3

Only thing I noticed that I have a question about.. as soon as I open adb shell it opens to # instead of $, without having to type su.... any ideas?
[G1 Android Development] brodieberlin:
Using 1.1 for a week now and its definitely more stable and faster in all categories. Especially the desktop has less stutterings and the 3G/2G networking works better (using O2 germany) - I hope all future updates will be as convincing as 1.1
[G1 Android Development] dwang:
I dunno, I just installed it and I can't really tell that its faster than rc30. Seems about the same. If I visit a website (ign.com) with a lot of javascript that takes up a lot of memory, play imeem in the background, and I switch to the home screen, I still see lagging. Ok maybe thats a bad example :-)
[G1 Android Development] dixxa:
JF I miss your busybox so much

that's the only thing that makes me stay with your version.
[G1 Android Development] humble:
me too but you can still install it. i did on the image you mod

the thing that sucks thoe is you have to semi-link what you need

and su isnt the same but i got it to work a bit by adb pushing the su thats found

in the superuser. well all we have to do is wait
[G1 Android Development] dixxa:
this little trick did it for me :)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=459501

but I dunno it seems there's no init.rc in /system but only in /

I've tried to repack my boot.img but no

I still can't runn application off sdcard.
[G1 Android Development] parrothd:
Cisco guest wifi authenication also works with this new version
[G1 Android Development] dwang:
Been using 1.1 for about a day and it does in fact feel more snappy and faster. Its not a huge improvement, but an improvement nonetheless.

But it could be from wiping the data and starting fresh. Can't comment on the better battery life as its been plugged into my laptop for most of the day.

Hopefully JF provides a 1.1 version. I miss installing apps to the sdcard.
[G1 Android Development] [RiS]:
What is preventing you from installing apps to sdcard? ADP1.1 img has root access
[G1 Android Development] dwang:
Because it needs the ext2 system module that JF includes with his images. Its not there in the stock images.

I guess I could manually copy the module over, but I'll just wait for JF to release an official version with all the goodies.
[G1 Android Development] vlens:
error: cannot load 'system.img'

what do I do wrong?
[G1 Android Development] neoobs:
I haven't had the problem... are you using linux or windows? or mac?
[G1 Android Development] tmrepp:
...do you have flashboot.exe in the same folder as the .img files??
[G1 Android Development] Autarkis:
Am I correct in assuming that the ADP 1.1 based mod by JesusFreke, which doesn't have mount -o remount,rw enabled will prevent me from putting my apps on my SD card?

Otherwise, this sound just awesomest! :eek: :cool:
[G1 Android Development] JesusFreke:
What makes you say mount -o remount,rw isn't enabled?
[G1 Android Development] Autarkis:
Hm, I somehow assumed this applied.

I don't really fully understand the workings of Android... :o

Edit: And sorry for crossposting, I thought the other reply I wrote got lost. :o