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[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] S.V.I:
do you use UPX on the computer or the PPC??

I found that If I use the UPX 4 PPC and set the compression to max and compress the icons I get better results. I also found a lot of use from Res Hacker to get rid of the unused icons before I UPXed the executables.

I can send you the cab for my UPX if you want to try it.

As well as detailed instructions on my process.

I believe that you can also get rid of the cl.dll in the manila package as it deals with footprints as well as the xml entries; also, I'm not sure that I left out all the footprint stuff out of the GFX.

another thing that I noticed, is that while Gmaps tab has several maps, if you run the gfx from the manila gfx the other maps will not show up based on your area. if you run it from windows (meaning all of the gmaps images are in windows, xml reflected) you get your general continent map to show up. I think that it is an unnesesary lux, personally; as well as a waste of space.

That can help you get a few more kilobytes.

Also, you might want to look into CRBuilder 2. it is much like the kitchen that I am using now. You will no longer have use for PROVXML's DSM's or RGU's and you do not have to mess with the packages as much..

For example, If I wanted to test my UPXd files I just made a folder in MY EXT folder "ZUPX-EXE" where I put all of the executables in my OEM already compressed to the max. the platform builder simply overwrote the executables in my oem, replacing them with the new ones.

You could use that kitchen to dump angel 4 rom xip sys folders and then you can convert the packages in the oem (not drivers apps or lang) to extended packages. They become much easier to deal with; and leave a lot less unnessesary residue in the windows folder. You can also replace the PROVXML data to initflashfiles and reg (app.dat and app.reg) so you no longer have use for these damned provxml's that come in most packages these days. The only ones you still need are the Provxmls that "install" ring tones and templates. I also found that you can edit your registry on the ppc as needed to be final; then change that to app .reg and put it into a last (zREG package) which will simply edit the whole final registry hive on the ppc.

I can't say enough about how much I love this new kitchen that Bepe gave us. cooking is so much easier now 0_0
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] RoryB:
Thank you for the info. Please send what ever you can to help me. I used UPX PC to compress things. Do I need to use this other one on the original files or can I further compress the ones I already did? How do I figure out which images are not used?

It would be nice to avoid multiple versions of the ROM. If I can get enough room to add something I want to do, it would be nice. I am thinking of an interface at the end of setup that would ask if they want AsyncKill, BTSAP, etc. Based on their answers it would set things up differently. Of course the programs would be installed, they just would not be turned on by the registry settings or startup file.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] mick.j:
Using MyMobiler is a useful way to take screen shots plus it is nice to sometimes use a regular keyboard to drive the wizard.

http://www.mymobiler.com/

Mick.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] RoryB:
Thank you for the tool. Here are some better pictures.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] lucy_t:
RoryB thanks for the updated file, I missed downloading it as I was away from base for a few days and it has passed the download limit.

Can someone repost the file somewhere so I can download it and give it a go?

Thanks,

LT
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] RoryB:
I signed up for RapidShare

http://rapidshare.com/files/238137149/Angel_Update_Opera_nk.nbf

This one should be good for a while. Let me know how it goes.

Thank you
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] syrupofwood:
End Call Button

Great ROM. Installed about a week ago and I'm in love..

Just one thing, and this is something I would like to know if it's also happening to others:

In the middle of a call, when I would like to end it, I cannot end it using the end button on the phone (hardware button), I have to do it through the button on the screen...

Any solutions would be greatly appreciated.

Keep up the good work!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] JakeG1984:
Skin error during customization screen on first boot. WIFI on at boot. No Opera Mini.

First I would like to say S.V.I. and Rory, thank you! SVI's roms have been a breadth of fresh air. SO FAST.

Bug report:

In contrast to the Angel 5 Opera Mini rom on Post 3 which works very well except that the internet is not working at all, I am now testing the rom file from two posts back hoping it will not have this issue. Now during the customizations I got an error that popped up indicating some skin component is "missing" and it wouldn't allow me to click OK for a minute or so. Now it is going and I will wait to see if any more errors appear. Seems like the customizations are going really slow... Ok it finished. Restarted fine, now I have a tray icon for comm manager which wasn't in the rom on post 3 also t-mail and t-mobile hotspots is installed which wasn't before. Also it boots with WIFI turned on. Also internet is still not working. I get a message "the address is not valid" which is the same message I got before. So I went to run Network Wizard and I get this message "Error in the program" Also there is no Opera Mini, which I thought this version was supposed to have. Just sharing what I have observed so far. Now I notice WIFI is turning on randomly!? Ok I am going to use the rom with no Opera Mini as it was said that everything works on that one. I will keep watching the thread to see if any updates come out or if anyone else is seeing the same problems.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] RoryB:
Sorry about these problems. I am switching to CRBuilder2 kitchen. It will be later this week before I can issue an update. Search your registry for wifipreload or similar. I set it to 1 to avoid the double tap to start. It does not cause wifi to start for me, it just flickers for a second and goes away after a soft reset. There is also some other values in that key like restart after reset. Try tweaking those.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] RoryB:
Okay, I have finished running CRBuilder2 kitchen.

This version has operamini from back in A4. It worked on my phone. I do not get error about internet in opera or pie.

WiFi only turns on when I select it in CommManager and it only takes one tap.

Network Wizard ran fine for me. It starts after the customization reset.

Phone hangs up with hardware button.

Programs removed from A4:

1. Autoshortcut - seems to take more space than worth switching from initflashfiles. I use mortscript and zip files instead.

2. BTSAP - no one complained about there car not being able to talk to their SIM card.

3. PIM Backup - no one complained about it being gone.

http://rapidshare.com/files/240028170/Angel_CRB2_with_opera_nk.nbf

Thank you for your feedback.

Hopefully this one works well for everyone. Now I am off to research bigstorage.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] S.V.I:
big storage

Big storage does not work on the wizard unfortunately. many have tried and all failed.

Glad to hear that you switched to crbuilder2. now finally there will be a cleaner meaner rom (that I will not get to enjoy)

I am still in Pittsburgh remodeling our old house. taking a lot longer than I anticipated. so, I am stuck here unable to edit the first post. I will try to get out to SBux sometime soon and fix that.

did that UPX for PPC work better?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] RoryB:
I spent so much time trying to learn the ins and outs of CRBuilder2 that I forgot to look into UPXPPC. I'll try that on a few of the files and see what can be reduced and still work.

I just started today running a version with the references to TRUEFFS_DOC1 removed from the default.hv and boot.rgu, but I did not notice an increase in memory. My suspicions are code in os.nb, imgfs, or in the dll that sets the size of the storage memory since I have not seen code that looks like partition size parameters.

I am going to watch battery usage to see if this is a way to avoid that problem.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] lucy_t:
RoryB,

Thanks for uploading the new rom and indeed it is lean and mean !!

I get a problem though with the post install updates (tried the build twice) where it hangs at the end of installing the opera mini 4.2 update. I can access the start menu etc but no use as I was unable to do anything but battery out and restart. rom is fine but opera mini does not work.

LT
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] RoryB:
For now, find operamini4.2fix.cab in windows or similar name and run the cab. Opera should work after that. Mine took a very long time to get past that cab during setup, but it did make it.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] lucy_t:
I'll try the build again tonight to let the build wait longer at the opera cab screen and post feedback. Other than that the rom is working fine, with the additional stuff I add in etc. Battery life looks good, manilla is quick, the apps load and close fine.

Anything in particular you want testing?

LT

P.S. Sorry didn't manage to get home last night fixing a friends laser etching controller :-) - I'll try tonight and feedback

It works fine - takes it's time but certainly installs fine
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] JakeG1984:
PIM Backup - no one complained

I agree, if it frees up room then take leave it off. I didn't complain about it since I have the pimbackup.exe sitting on my storage card where I put my PIM Backup files, that way no matter which rom I am using it is right there.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] sivaroo:
wm 6.5?

Hi RoyB,

Can you try this release of wm 6.5 by Hamer10.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=523488

Free mem is around 28mb. It would be nice if you can make an angel build with it.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] RoryB:
@sivaroo, from my discussions with Cracing 21xxx ROMs are not as memory stable as 20xxx ROMs. Basically they have memory leaking.

Also, are you thinking a WM6.5 with M2D or WM6.5 with Angel based graphics in CHome?

I am very new to cooking so I am not sure I am ready to start from scratch.

BTW, I have a cleaned version of Angel with the "final operamini 4.2" running on it. After I finish testing I'll post it.

@lucy_t, I will need a favor from you. Before you put the new ROM in please hard reset your phone without your SDCard. After set up finishes and the RAM settles down, run hibernate and select details. Record the total, used and available memory for storage and programs. Then install the new ROM and do exactly the same thing. Let me know what all the numbers are. Thank you. Hopefully you do not use extended_ROM for anything. I am trying to get rid of it to avoid power drain issue and I am trying to figure out how to get that memory for our use. I do not want to give away my results yet, but it was not much of anything. Nothing to get excited about yet.

Also, My first attempt at going to internet explorer in M2D tab gave an error, I quit pie and selected the xda shortcut. It worked. I quit pie again and selected internet explorer and it worked. I am not sure if I just had a timed out error the first time or if it is a glitch.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] sivaroo:
Hi,

I've been test running the WM6.5 i mentioned for almost 2 days now and haven't reset my device and memory was over 24MB still after heavy use of office, calender,email,mms/sms. As far as memory leak goes I think this version is way better in handling than any other one out there. (Other clean versions(no office) have only up to 22mb free from others)

It will be nice to have with M2D added and leave CHome in ROM. this will make it easy for anyone to switch between CHome/M2D.

I actually have M2D installed with angel graphics on the wm6.5, it take out at least 2mb when i use it. Still ram(26MB after SR) is way over any other rom.

I was mentioning in case if you want to roll out a wm6.5.

Thanks
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] lucy_t:
Before Rom Install After Hard Reset:

Storage: Total:47.46, In Use 5.59, Free 41.88

Program: Total 50.91, In Use 23.95, Free 27.04

After Rom Install

Storage: Total:47.46, In Use 5.52, Free 41.94

Program: Total 50.91, In Use 23.87, Free 26.96

Added Internet tab, launched IE from large M2D icon and worked fine. Closed IE, launched from hardware button labled browser and launched a blank page 'home' selected a favourite and worked fine.

Battery life for me has reduced down to 24hours for me now with s2d2 and missed calls running.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] RoryB:
When you get down to 24MB and do a hibernate, where do you get back to? After a soft reset?

I will start looking at this between other activities to see if there is room to add M2D or what I would have to remove to fit it in.

FYI, I always end up about 18MB with my current 6.1 and program usage. After a soft reset, I get back to around 22-23MB.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] RoryB:
Thank you for the info. I have a record of where I had only 50.86 program and now have 50.91. I am about to post the latest version of Angel with the new operamini4.2 that says it is the final version.

Please test the memory on this new one.

BTW, I have never had better than going from 100% to 50% from 7am to 7pm. Typically when I unplug from and replug to the charger.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] RoryB:
Latest Angel ROM.

I have taken out some parameters regarding Extended_ROM. So if you use this space you probably do not want to install this ROM.

BigStor may prove to be a misnomer. Depends on feedback from lucy_t

http://rapidshare.com/files/242682040/Angel_BigStor_new_opera_nk.nbf

Edit: BigStor is a misnomer. I do not see extra memory.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] sivaroo:
with CHome i end up with 27.9(28mb) after hibernate & SR.

with M2D 26.9(27) after SR and hibernate.

without no M2D or CHome with basic (date,messaging & Calendar) today items mem is 32mb after SR/Hibernate.

I use Qmenu hibernate option(seems to be better than oxias)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] S.V.I:
Rory, Did you know that you can edit your post on the first page?? (post 8)

What is this I hear about you using the extended rom for something??

what is this BIG STORAGE??? how far ahead did you get?!!:eek::D

You might want to start your own thread..

as far as the discussion on WM6.5 and CHOME... well I have been playing with it on my Kaiser and decided to go back to manila. I have not found a single advantage to the CHOME interface other than the transpatrent bars and shadowed fonts that require cleartype to look decent. plugins have been difficult to install, and you still can't use the old style today plugins with it.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] RoryB:
So I could edit post #8 like you had been doing post 1 for updates?

Big Storage: I think I am going down paths others have traveled, but I am not finding clear answers when I search. I have been playing with trueffs settings in boot.rgu/hv and default.hv files. I have been doing a lot of research and started a separate thread discussing this. Not much response from others. I have a couple other things I am going to try when works slows again. After that I will post the results on the other thread. My latest upload includes some tweaks in this area, and I hope for some feedback from lucy_t soon.

I should probably post a standard version of Final Angel with the final operamini4.2 on post #8. This will have to be the first thing I do when works slows.

From what I have read, WM6.5 seems like a difficult beast. I tried hypercore on that ROM, but it was missing the boot.rgu and I am not sure what else might be missing. I think I will stick with your work.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] S.V.I:
I do not think that big storage is possible on the wizard. geniuses have tried and failed. I also believe that the extended rom can not be modified to become usefull for anything because it may not even be a partition, but part of the ram. too many people have failed at this.

As far as winmo6.5, it may in fact be a difficult beast, but once stripped of the nonsense (too many files) it can be just as stable. I am running a version right now that I do not have to soft reset. The only problem that I see with it, is that it is much bigger, and has too many files for CHOME and themes much of which might be pretty, but unnecessary.

I definitely would not use hypercore to try to break that thing down. Cracings kitchen would be much better (I assume that it breaks rom's down just like the kitchens for Kaisers). You might want to ask him if he would share his entire kitchen. especially the XIP folders. one really great thing I noticed with 6.5 is the updated BT manager within the OS. It now asks me for every BT device if it is a car kit.. which means that in the proximity to my computer I can just use the speaker phone.. (or use it in the car)

However, I really like the angel build (923) it is probably the most complete 6.1 ever. 6.5 is still beta and by the time there is an official build they should have the kinks worked out.

Our old house has me under it's bricks. I have to go back there tomorrow and do some more work to it.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] RoryB:
I guess since no one (or I cannot find reports) has said what they have tried and that the results were that it did not work. I feel the need to play with it. I will post the attempts and results on my thread.

I feel there is little more I can do with Angel. Once lucy_t gives me a report and I get time to do the once last cook, I'll be done. I need to go through everything once more to see if there is anything else I can squeeze. I want to fit Adobe reader 2.5 into the ROM since there has not been any updates and it is a good candidate for being cooked in.

Good luck with the house.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] RoryB:
I did not realize CRBuilder2 also break's down ROMs. I'll have to read what it has a little better.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] RoryB:
What I am noticing from the latest build of Angel is no extra storage space.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3926251&postcount=428

I think I am noticing longer battery life. I had not been paying attention to it since I was messing with other things and trying to get more memory.

Today I have purposely not connected my phone to my computer. I am trying to go all day without getting power added to the phone.

It has been 4.5 hours since I unplugged it from the charger and I am only down to 94%. I know that sometimes the power stays high and then suddenly starts going down faster so I'll wait until tonight to be sure about the battery. When I do not charge during the day I typically end up around 50% by the time I get home. Maybe what I did will avoid one of the battery drain issues out there with Extended_ROM.

@lucy_t, if you install this ROM please watch the battery level too.

@anyone else, you are welcome to help with the same experiment.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] S.V.I:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=517957

this isthe kaiser kitchen that I am using. you may just be able to "strip it for parts" like some of the tools; but mainly the OS.

21231 is the build that I am using right now, hopefully I will soon find a later build.

i an case, this should help you figure out which packages you need to change the os and sys... and hopefully get you started on wm6.5.

there are a few good kitchens n the kaiser thread and porting them with crbuilder could be very easy. just need to find the right sourses
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] RoryB:
Just showed up this morning in the thread you sent me. It's 21806

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3937822&postcount=190
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] lucy_t:
Sorry for the delay.....

After Rom Install

Storage: Total:47.46, In Use 6.76, Free 40.70

Program: Total 50.91, In Use 24.73, Free 26.18

After Rom Install After Hard Reset:

Storage: Total:47.46, In Use 6.73, Free 40.73

Program: Total 50.91, In Use 24.85, Free 26.06

ie from manilla works, opera is fine, battery is 50% improved from early tests on average use, the install goes a great deal quicker too :-)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] S.V.I:
I just updated .. thanks.

It only took me a couple of minutes to update the build.:D

I love the new kitchens!!

it is a good build by the way. runs well.

Just had to make sure that the payload file stayed the same to get it to work in my kitchen. The rest was a piece of cake.

I am leaving tonight again, so I will update the post title before I go.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] RoryB:
Thank you lucy_t.

So it definitely is not BigStorage.

@S.V.I, please take out the reference to BigStorage in the thread title.

I had something come up yesterday and had to download a large file, which ate up battery life. I recharged close to where I was before I started download and had much higher battery level when I got home (~75%). I'll try again to keep it uplugged today to see if I can get a more typical day's usage test.

If this proves to improve battery life and continues to not cause other problems, I will update post #8 with a retitled nbf file link. After that, I will stop with Angel. I will be doing research and cooking classes for a while. Maybe I will issue a new ROM, under a different thread of course.

@S.V.I, I read some of the pages of that kitchen, but not all yet. Looks interesting. I like the way they way have compression set options. I have not been having any luck trying to understand the visual kitchen, but I am seeing things in their batch files that might help me create a kitchen to my own liking.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jcjames:
I flashed my rom with the new rom that you cooked,the one with bigstorage posted on 428. I cant see any bigstorage on my phone, same program/storage memory as final angel. but i just found out a while ago that my camera flash is really flashing out (i didn't use camera and flash when i saw it) sometimes it flashes steadily but most of the time it is blinking. the light is not that bright to notice easily. I dont know if this is a rom issue or just my phone is going crazy. I'll try to go back to final angel, and report my observation later. Maybe this one is the culprit why my battery power wont last longer. I just bought a new battery and i was surpised that my new battery works like the old one that i have to charged it every single day with minimal use. :(
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] lucy_t:
No probs, Have a good weekend.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] RoryB:
FINAL Final Angel

See post #2

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=3135422#post3135422

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3135422&postcount=2
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] XAH:
What to do with S.V.I note?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] S.V.I:
What svi note?

I will update the header on this thread. thank you Rory.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Noonski:
Hello, this is spamm.

Or a public invitation to invite one of the people responsible for actually getting this far on this project.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=525810

Thanks RoryB

PS: Guys did you know i could have inserted a second or third post at the beginning of the thread for RoryB's use?

So i went ahead and did that.

I can move it to any other position if need be.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] RoryB:
I'll check it out. I did not know. Thank you. I moved the Final Final Angle to post 2.