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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] StevePritchard:
I should probably start by saying that I've only had my Touch Pro since Christmas, and am still getting to grips with it, but I've not seen the GPS issues that other people have reported.

Your solution to the problem simply keeps the GPS switched on all the time, and I think this may have a negative impact on battery performance. My wife has a Samsung Omnia i900 which has GPS issues in TomTom which can be fixed by installing GPSGate - however, unless you make it idle while nothing is using GPS, then it will keep the GPS active constantly (like your solution) and she noticed an increase in battery drain.

Cheers,

Steve.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ben1do1:
I was concerned about that but even if you do automation off and turn it on manually (this way it will not affect your battery) it will still work flawlessly. I have tried it at least a hundred times over the last 2 months and this is the only way to get the lock fast.

All touch pros have this gps issue and if you try to get a lock with google map or tomtom alone it sometimes take over 5 minutes to get a lock. With my method it only takes a few seconds every time. this is important for people who use their gps all the time to find addresses or sales people on the road who don't want to prey for minutes to get a fast lock. thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] irus:
ok sooooo im not trying to burst your bubble as i would love to have a 3 to 6 sec connect time but if use google maps or tomtom to connect for the first time then close out and open it right back up you will get about the same 3 to 6 second connect time when is what the app does..... sorry
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ben1do1:
not really, even if you have gotten a lock with google maps or tomtom and you try turning it on a few hours later, sometimes it takes 5 minutes or more to get a lock. There was a time that I had to stand in the street with my phone facing the sky and praying to get a lock and that was embarassing.

In some cases I didn't get a lock at all even after a few minutes since there were some tall buildings around me (downtown los angeles) trust me I have gone through all that and I was going crazy over this issue. I have tried it all because I need the gps lock all day long for my job. The gps today program uses a different method to get a lock. I don't know what it does but whatever it does, it works. thanks

try it ITS FREE. what have you got to loose? you will thank me.:)

by the way Steve, it does not keep the gps on all the time. It only turns on for a few seconds, gets a lock and turns off (on the auto). thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] StevePritchard:
Fair enough - I'm not sure how it would manage to get a lock indoors. I guess I must be lucky though, as I've never had to wait anything like 5 minutes for a lock. I do use QuickGPS, but not AssistedGPS, and don't seem to have to wait very long for a lock at all (if I'm outside).
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] NLS:
do you realize what kind of "solution" you give?

you keep GPS always open (you can do that without second today and a GPS today program - you can use GPSGate or keep any GPS program on at all times)

this is dramatic for the battery

this is not a solution, just a bad trick - sorry
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ragtas:
I usually get locked in around 15 seconds without turning off anything- I'm using "Automapa 5"- Polish map for mobile devices, works quite fine and locks 10x faster then my hiking GPS (but it's old.. ;p)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Shephild:
Thanks Ben1do1. I just now installed both SecondToday and GPSToday. Your solution works great on my FUZE. Now I can unsubscribe to AT&T Navigator. :) The only way I used to be able to get TomTom Navigator 6 to get a fix was to run AT&T Navigator (telenav) first.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Shephild:
GPSToday is very configurable and doesn't drain the battery as badly as StevePritchard fears. You can simply disable auto-fix and only do occasional manual quick-fixes just to keep your gps "primed".

below is from the FAQ. http://geoterrestrial.com/faq/

"What does it do to my device's battery life?

In the default configuration, GPSToday will typically reduce your battery life by 10-15% over the course of a day. This much is usually not an issue for the vast majority of users. To have full control over battery consumption, you can disable the automatic periodic quick-fix functionality via Map>Settings. The more frequently you update your fix or run the GPS in persistent mode, the more it will affect battery life."
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ben1do1:
There you go guys now we are cooking. just turn off the auto and you will not loose any battery. I had sooooo much fun with my gps today and got locks in some cases in 2 seconds. I could not believe my own eyes. Please keep in mind that you need to be outside or close to a big window so that the gps can lock. Enjoy.

I personally think that this thread should be on the wiki and also for the new fuze or diamond owners with the same gps problem. thanks everyone
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Sleuth255:
There's only one way to get a 6 second lock: GPS Hot start. That means that 80% of the birds from the last lock must still be in the sky.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] irus:
did you disable the agps as it would be enabled if you were using at&t navigator... disable it and try tomtom im sure it will work ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Skydog:
FYI

FYI - the current version of GPSToday can be installed as *either* a today plugin or standalone app. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fourcc:
i must say that i was sceptic about it but it definitively works for me.

I used to have fixes between 5-10 minuts but with GPStoday i have them nearly instantly, 10-15 sec. Thanks Ben1Do1
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] NuShrike:
Not to cut in but maybe FusionGPSFix can help a little in the same way too.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] itster2:
i cant seem to find the stand alone app... both are today plugs and that's useless in touchflo 3d
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] kdb9904:
I'm beginning to think TouchFlo3D is the problem. I somewhat used what was recommended above. I turned off TF3D and just made a normal today screen in Windows Mobile. I loaded Visual GPS and within less than 10 seconds, I had GPS coordinates. I then turned on TF3D, rebooted (just to make sure everything was cleared out), loaded VisualGPS, it took around 3 1/2 minutes to get a lock. I have repeated these steps several times and every time I do, I almost immediately get VisualGPS to work when TF3D is disable. Someone that knows more about the "internals" of TF3D may can answer this better, but in my testing and troubleshooting that I've done that seems to be the only thing that is making it now work...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] NLS:
erm you are wrong

the first one has a stand alone mode and the second is ONLY in stand alone mode (you don't SEE something happening - it just runs)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fourcc:
After some days trying this the GPSToday Trick i must say it fantastic, really!

before:

first day fix in 5-10 mintutes (AGPS OFF / QGPS ON)

subsequent fixes 3-5 minutes (AGPS OFF / QGPS ON)

with GPS today

first day fix in 20-30 sec (AGPS OFF / QGPS ON)

subsequent fixes 6 seconds (AGPS OFF / QGPS ON)

I don't have the tool always on, i manually turn GPS with this tool whenever i need the GPS.

Try it!

Proven ROM 1.07 + Raphael_Radio_1.08.25.20M1 + GPS Tweaks.cab + GPSTODAY (manual)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] :
don't have to thank you but good to see people are adding their .2. i get a lock with tomtom under 20-30 seconds... doesn't matter if its a cold boot, warm...

tvos
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] NLS:
well the "no" in the vote are still more than the "yes"

in any case I believe it WILL affect the (already tiny) battery of our devices
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fourcc:
i don't agree, i manually use it before launching Tomtom each time i need it so no extra battery draining. Maybe having it set in automatic mode would drain the battery but not manually. Try it! it works!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] p51d007:
GPS Today worked for me....locks in less than 20 seconds!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] RallyPunx:
I'm too tired now, but will try this tomorrow morning.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] starstreak:
But besides the long original GPS lock (5mins sometimes) I can get GPS lock in under 30seconds as long as I never did a reset on the device.

My issue is still the lag in the actual GPS program. I'm still about 5-10seconds behind where I am on the map. In the City, it normally means I could pass the street before the map shows me there. Granted, if I'm paying attention, I know the upcoming street is the turn, but I like seeing where I am on the map. ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] NLS:
my problem is different - GPS lag is there but not so huge

the problem is that after the initial lock, there is way too much time where I am not shown as moving at all!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ripe1:
It works

I can confirm that its realy working with TomTom v7.910.

Running with stock ROM, TF3D and the GPSToday stand alone app (not the plugin).
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] X2D:
Doesn't this just initialize the GPS to speed up a cold start?/maintain a warm start? Might have to try running just this app and see if it fixes the positioning lag that is the main problem. Finding a signal is a matter of making sure you're QuickGPS is up to date and you use something to initialize the GPS, I will give this app a shot though because right now I'm desperate for a solution to this aggravating problem.

:eek:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Sleuth255:
This is an interesting app. In automatic mode it appears to somehow know when its outside so it can initialize the GPS periodically to get a fix. This is why other software always hotstarts the GPS and results in the 6 second fix.

Or, you can use manual mode and then its GPSToday that's acquiring the fix. It waits however long it needs to but does appear to conserve battery power by turning the GPS off once a fix has been acquired. This loads up hot-start ephemeris data.

I've found that the short delay for warm-start is fine for me. This is maximized with the right radio/agps/quickgps settings.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] X2D:
i jusr tried it on my way to work still position lag but decent app tf3d disabled and after hard reset same thing bleh
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ben1do1:
Some people are scared of battery drain which is understandable. I just set it to manual so that the battery does not get affected AT ALL. I have tested it and it will not drain any battery what so ever in manual mode so don't worry about that.

All you need to do is to get a lock in the morning which will take about a minute or so after a soft reset and you will have quick lock all day long. thats it

ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE PEOPLE. LOL

IT WORKS

PEOPLE ARE USING IT AND ENJOYING IT. GREAT TO GET A LOCK BEFORE TURNING ON GOOGLE MAP OR TOMTOM.

ITS NOT MY FAULT THAT ATT OR HTC GOOFED UP AND DID SOMETHING TO THE TOUCH PRO GPS ANTENNA. I HATE THEM

If I would not have found this method, I would have sold my touch pro and just used my old kaiser. HTC AND ATT NEED TO GET A LIFE. WHO WANTS TO PAY 10 DOLLARS A MONTH OVER A STUPID TELENAV SOFTWARE THAT IS NOT THAT GREAT ANYWAY. UNBELIVABLE:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mkalbouneh:
dude , relax with caps dont yell.

i have the everything plan from sprint for $99 and telenav is included and IMHO its not bad

i dont think this problem was intended by htc, could be qualcomm though
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Sleuth255:
The fix problem has been corrected. It's in the radio ROM and had to do with the way the code uses QuickGPS or aGPS obtained ephemeris data to obtain that first warm start in < 1-2 minutes. Even GPSToday needs this much time to obtain the first warmstart which seeds current ephemeris data into the GPSOne chip. After that, the data is good for a while and results in a "Hot Fix" whereby the chip is only searching for birds that it knows are in the sky.

The current blackstone radio (see my sig) is the best of the bunch. I can warm start in about a minute then its 6 second hot starts until I go about half a day w/o using the GPS. What's not proven yet is the worldwide accuracy of QuickGPS or aGPS obtained data. I can attest to the fact that both sources are accurate in the US.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] NLS:
that actually makes sense

they say good things about 1.10.25.18 too (which I suspect is the same radio but better for different areas - isn't that the case with the last version part?)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] X2D:
edit: different topic
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Sleuth255:
edit: point taken :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mbze430:
What I don't understand about this is...

I have a VX6900 on Verizon.... CDMA... and using cooked rom, and did the whole 9 yard on editing the GPSone PDE settings. That phone gets a lock 3-6 seconds after every soft reboot....

However on our GSM phone.. I have a HTC Fuze also with cooked rom... no one ever mention anything about accessing the GPSOne PDE Settings (maybe it's already there)... some how I can't never get a lock within 3-6seconds from a soft reboot....

What are we missing here?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Sleuth255:
PDE settings are all about aGPS setup. Its likely that the Verizon aGPS system is augmented by tower data to provide highly accurate initial ephemeris data (like what you would download from a satellite). This results in the GPS performing a hot start every time you use it. Tower augmentation sent from the phone to an "intelligent" server results in the same stream that a bird would send down being sent. In short, the phone learns the PRNs for the actual satellites visible to it from aGPS.

My understanding is that our GSM ephemeris data available via aGPS or QuickGPS isn't that accurate. Since its valid for 7 days and only specific for general geography (western hemisphere or Europe for example), it gives the phone a list of PRNs that may be visible to it at any given time over that large geographical region. At the same point in time, a user in California won't see the same birds overhead as a user in New York for example, so the phone loads a PRN from the list into a slot and listens for a signal. It looks like our phones have 3 channels that they can listen on simultaneously (just a guess here based on visual observation of the warmstart process using VisualGPSce). If a channel times out, the next PRN is loaded and so on until one with high signal strength is found. At that point, actual ephemeris data is downloaded from that satellite (this can actually take 30 seconds or so) and used to hot-start the GPS. This process is known as a warm-start. Cold starts occur when no ephemeris data at all is known. The difference here is that the phone loads random PRNs and listens.

hth!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] JZ SmartMort:
Right there with you... 20-30 seconds is very acceptable to me. Version 7.910 of TomTom seem to lock a fix much faster than previous versions of TomTom.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] user60396861:
Like Sleuth255 mentioned, the his new Radio Version solved the GPS Problem by its own, is there already a new Radio Version for the XDA Diamond Pro?

If there is, is it official or just a customized version.

Sorry, i am new to installing new Roms, do i also loose my warranty if i flash/install a new Radio Version?

Thanks for the help...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] JZ SmartMort:
Yes warranty goes bye-bye but you can always restore the original if you back it up (not an easy process but can be done). You would want to DUMP your current ROM and all else.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=372469
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] georgegkmscom:
Does one need to install Second Today in order to install GPS Today?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] turbocycle:
Does the BS radio also fix the issue where the NEMA sentences stop every few seconds when AGPS enabled?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bzdziagwa:
I can confirm that GPSToday solution works for me.

I've tried this couple of times - when starting GPSTest takes minutes to get fix - even if 8 satelites are visible. The same with Nav iGo8

When starting GPSToday it takes max 20-30sek.

I dont have GPSToday running all the time - I'm just starting it to get fix (which was problematic most the time) then running software for GPS (NavIGO in this case)

Thanks a lot.

I have no idea what is the difference in TodayGPS (different algorithm?) but it's really works.

B.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] udgn:
Post your phone info, rom, radio, wm version etc.

Post your phone info, rom, radio, wm version etc. So people know if this apply.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] :
This method works for me. Locking on in considerably less time. Using RRE Fuze ROM V4.5, installed the standalone GPStoday so i can keep my TF3D on. Tom Tom locks faster now.

I think the battery life is just a little worse off now but i cant tell if its the GPStoday or the ROM. Either way Id rather have a normal GPS system.

Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Sleuth255:
No. I didn't think that had anything to do with AGPS however. Mine seems to do it with AGPS disabled too.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] NLS:
don't miss this thread people:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=474582
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black1982:
thanx

works great!!

I have the plugin version on my 2ndtoday screen. I can get a fix in a few seconds (even indoors near a large window). I have it set to manual, so it doesn't eat up my battery.

Before opening TT7 I start it and leave it on until i close TT.

Thanx a lot for the tip!:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] 07accordEX:
This thing is the bomb lol

it makes the gps much more dependable now

thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] at10ti0n:
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news4538.html

quote from ^:

"o2 customers with the XDA Serra (aka HTC Touch Pro) can now download a patch to fix a GPS issue with the handset. The updatem which is available here, shouldn't need a full OS wipe so it should be good to directly install."

Someone who has xda serra pls try and say how it works :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] rol_xda:
serra patch

I had high hopes for this when I saw that O2 had realeased a patch as my GPS functionality varies from pathcy to dreadful

the serra patch released by O2 installed HTC quickGPS on the handset

when I did the install and ran the quickGPS exe it refused to connect to the server to download the ephemeris data

so no use at all really

O2 CS had no idea why it didn't work and just suggest I try again later
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Planescape:
I installed the Serra patch and has so far made no improvement to the GPS service.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tursoke:
Thanks for this. I hated the gps function on my TP since the lock time was immense, I think my best was at around 50 seconds, usually way more than that, and most of the time it didn't lock at all, but this app fixed my problem like it was nothing.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Marty_Orbit:
Hi guys, ive been a long time reader of this site, but never really posted too much.

I have no problems what so ever getting a GPS lock (im using TOMTOM7), AGPS is switched off and I dont use Quickgps, and havnt apllied any tweaks to the phone. I get a lock usually 10 seconds or less, and that to me is fine.

I do have the lag though, usually about 3-5 seconds which is a pain.

Im using the 1.12.25.19 radio
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[POCO M3 Pro / Redmi Note 10 / 10T 5G] _unknown_1301:
hey

my device is showing low battery symbol while switching on the device but my battery condition is good and has almost 67-70% battery it can only acces fastboot mode but only if i connect a charging cable

I have treid reflashing stock rom through fastboot method but after flashing it bootloop on redmi logo 2-4 times than switch off .My bootloder is unlock any one can help me with this? My device is redmi note 10t 5g
[POCO M3 Pro / Redmi Note 10 / 10T 5G] IsHacker:
I have the exact same phone and I had this problem too while I was in miui 13. I flashed miui 14 through twrp (not fastboot) and problem was gone. Not even bootlooping. I also don't know how you flashed through fastboot, because this phone is a/b partitioned and has payload.bin
[POCO M3 Pro / Redmi Note 10 / 10T 5G] _unknown_1301:
I have download fastboot rom file that is .tgz file and there is script flash_all.bat and we have to just run it and than it is back to stok rom

could you send me twrp file i hvave one but touch is not working in twrp
[POCO M3 Pro / Redmi Note 10 / 10T 5G] IsHacker:
This twrp is working for me.
[POCO M3 Pro / Redmi Note 10 / 10T 5G] _unknown_1301:
what is your device model number and codename

and can you send this recovery img in google drive link downloding speed is slow
[POCO M3 Pro / Redmi Note 10 / 10T 5G] IsHacker:
model M2103K19l, codename "camellia".

recovery.img

drive.google.com
[POCO M3 Pro / Redmi Note 10 / 10T 5G] _unknown_1301:
it is not working on my device

any other idea?
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] 24hKimon:
Can you explain in detail how to overclock using Konabess?

My phone: Poco f5 pro

Snapdragon 8+ gen 1

rooted
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] madara972008:
First is overclock:

1)open the app.

2)choose n1 option.

3)tap edit gpu freq table.

4)select "Snapdragon 8+Gen 1".

5)tap "New".

6)tap the uper "900MHz".

7)choose and edit the frequency, maximum 913000000, recommend 91000000.

8)change all bus to 14 (maximum and optional)

9)tap "SAVE GPU FREQ TABLE"

10)tap "REPACK AND FLASH NEW IMAGE"

11)tap "yes"

12) wait for the device's reboot, go to your kernel management software and choose your new max frequency.

Second undervolt:

Just change the voltage level to TURBO then save and repack image
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] batubaba:
I cant change my max frequency with smartpack kernel manager. I succesfully repacked and flashed 919Mhz but cant change it on kernel manager any idea why?
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] madara972008:
You can delete some low frequency option in konabess then try again
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] madara972008:
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[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] madara972008:
Maximum is 913mhz. I already told you about that.
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] madara972008:
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[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] batubaba:
The maximum value is 710mhz and I cant change it.

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[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] batubaba:
Yeah I did that and added 910Mhz succesfully
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] madara972008:
Just delete all unnecessary frequency option
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] madara972008:
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[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] madara972008:
Does it work?
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] batubaba:
Is this a joke or what? What a performance up. But is there a downside for this? I wish I could have done this with the max value is 910Mhz and min something lower. This way my phone always going to work with 910Mhz.
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] madara972008:
I have used 912 mhz for months. The phone won't use the max frequency all the time, it won't damaged your device.
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] madara972008:
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[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] madara972008:
The gpu usage is 0% as you see.
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] batubaba:
Thank you very much!