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[P6500 General] Jay C:
Is there an SDK available for the Bluetooth interface on the Sedna/6500?

I'm developing an app for engineers which uses bluetooth to read a value from a 3rd party piece of hardware.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 Accessories] darzik:
Hi!

I'm trying to use HBH-631 ( http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10487 ) with my Qtek S200. It connects OK but the sound on the other side is very quiet and distorted. Like the MIC on the HF would be very bad.

I checked the HF with my wife's SonyEricsson k750i and it works very well.

Any idea, what could I check or change?

Regards,

darzik
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Thomas_Germany_Hamburg:
Hey friens and developers,

I have read the information in post " dead hermes? corrupted radio? Post comments here" and follow the instruction "Device is stuck in bootloader mode".

My problem is, I can´t get a connection to my device (mtty), I have on 4 different PCs (XP or Vista Operation System) every time the same information --> "USB Port can´t not open".

My Question is, is the Bootloader damage ?

History:

The hermes are function well and I get yesterday a problem with frozen the Device. I solve the problem and do a hard reset, but after Installation the Device boot and stay now in the HTC Screen. (Look attachment). If i hardreset the device a see the tri-color Boot-Picture for a 0,5 sec, but no numbers.

THX for some idea´s

Thomas
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] JR_de:
Did you read the Wiki page for unbricking the Hermes?

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unbrick
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Thomas_Germany_Hamburg:
Yes I do, but I have the Problem with the USB Connection (mtty). You have any Idea for the USB Problem?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Thomas_Germany_Hamburg:
The Hermes now is function with USB. I install a new XP with SP2 on my PC and I have a connection.

Now I see the BOOTLOADER :-)

HERM200

IPL-1.04

Herm200

SPL 2.-03

I want to flash the Device, but every Solution STOPT by 1%, "the image file is corrupted". Any Idea how to change the Bootloader to a compatibility Bootloader over mtty?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ultramag69:
What ROM you trying to flash? It has to be a Hermes ROM or you're gonna end up with a permanent brick.

Have you installed Hard SPL V7? If you have you can use the sd card method to install the ROM.

If its a Hermes ROM and you keep getting the "the image file is corrupted" message, good, it means you won't have a brick at the end as the file is corrupted and could result in a brick. Either download the ROM image again or download something else. That error message is there to save your Hermes from brickage.

Cheers...:D
[XPERIA X1 General] adambaxter:
The pictures in my media panel appear as thumbnails but when i try to open them full screen I get a broken link image, anyone any ideas?
[Touch HD General] The Missing Link:
Not sure, but it seems that my T9 list is remembering passwords I entered. Don't like that as anyone who would get my PDA could find out my passwords by typing some text, in the suggested words my passwords will pop-up if you guess the first char(s) right. Am I right here? It doesn't seem logical if it would work like this.
[Touch HD General] The Missing Link:
Mmmm.... either this is so obvious no one likes to even bother answering or nobody cares (which would surprise me) or nobody really knows what can be done about it... Someone you wants to tell me which one is true? ;-)
[Touch HD General] creedin:
disable auto completion
[Touch HD General] The Missing Link:
But then I won't have T9 anymore, right. I guess I can't have them both I guess??
[Touch HD General] chaosdefinesorder:
why not just try disabling T9 when you enter a password? it's a one-tap slidey box so not hard to do...
[Touch HD General] umexed:
but its not a problem t9 showing you your passwords.. the problem is when others see it!

i didnt notice this since i dont use t9.. i find it rather annoying
[Touch HD General] The Missing Link:
Thanks, that's possible and might be the best thing to do.

Better would be if T9 would AUTOMATICALLY disable for input in fields that are for passwords... guess that wouldn't be rocket-science now would it?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] carver:
my operator use huawei networks, and this system don't support MEID for EVDO registration.

i compare layes3 trace for both terminal, Sprint-Novatel-U727 and Sprint-HTC-Diamond-Touch.

and found problem in "Session Setup" phase.

when terminals send 1xEV Signaling Access Channel -- HardwareIDResponse:

Sprint-Novatel-U727 send hardware_id_type = 0x10000 + ESN - and network answer,

but Sprint-HTC-Diamond-Touch send hardware_id_type = 0xFFFF + MEID and network stop answer.

so, i think my operator don't support MEID, and need switch diamond from MEID to ESN.

i'm not programmer, but i looking for 7500 code, hdramp.c/hdramp.h

and found hdramp.session_info.session_hwid.type parameter

with HDRAMP_HARDWARE_ID_TYPE_ESN or HDRAMP_HARDWARE_ID_TYPE_MEID value.

i try sprint and telus radio, but always MEID.

also i use QXDM and set 1933 nv_hdramp_hardware_id_i parameter to 0x10000 (for ESN)

but always MEID in trace.

so, if anybody can do more, than looking for SPC, or change ESN/MEID :D and has any information - please help me.

i think need path firmware, it's easy at intel cpu, but for arm/qcom i haven't this skill, so, before try loking other way.

thanks.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] kocoman:
bump

any update?

How do you do a layes3 trace ?

Does this help?

http://www.qualcomm.com/common/docu..._1xEV-DO_Session_Negotiation_Example_3-08.pdf
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] carver:
yes, i patch diamond phone firmware, and phone start working.

i write more detail at qmat support forum.

later i erase few memory in my diamond and wait jtag/jlink from ebay. :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] kocoman:
bump

Can you tell me how to do layer 3 trace? the pdf file in the previous messages does say the OUTPUT, but it doesn't say HOW the data was captured.

TIA
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] BottleNeck:
Data was captured via QXDM (Log view or, more usable, Filtered view), saved into .isf and parsed by the QCAT tool. Ask google for latest versions of this software.

BTW, you REALLY not need QCAT - the QXDM can give you same description of interesting packets (described in pdf (0x1077,0x1078,0x1079 etc.))

//WBR
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] adventuressmalik:
Diamond meid solution

Hard SPL

Supercid

change radio to 1.0.0.8u

now you can ahnge scm to 2A or make meid 00000000000000 using dfs.
[Touch HD General] TheShowStopper:
Start, Settings, System, Device Information... Call Duration. How do you wipe those figures from your handset folks? Must be a way somehow but how?!

Please gimme a clue cus i'm trying to sell my handset 'as new' and even though i've only used the phone for about 2 hours total, in and outgoing, it'd still be nice to have no comebacks with it.

Besides... someone else might need this info for some other reason to so if you know... shout loudly please!!!!!!!! :D :D :D
[Touch HD General] Kangburra:
A hard reset should do it?
[Touch HD General] TheShowStopper:
Nope. Afraid not mate. Tried that and even changed ROM but nothing. Weird!
[Touch HD General] harondaddy:
I have seen someone ask this very question not to long ago. I believe the answer given was that since it is illegal or unethical to erase the call duration the moderator gave warnings to those asking for a "how to do it". I bet even if someone did give you an answer it would be erased. This site is very clean and trustworthy and the XDA Community leaders will want to keep it that way. Have you done a google search? Google it and you may get an answer. Or go here to this link

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=276766
[Touch HD General] Bhuddymahn:
Got a problem: when I pull my headset out the music goes playing through the speaker.. that's very annoying when I pull my headset out at school where it has to be quiet. Is there any solution?
[Touch HD General] NoModE:
Turn of the music before you pull out the headset?
[Touch HD General] Psygnosis84:
^^ lol said like it should be.

However i agree to some degree, it should have a timer like after 5 seconds then the music starts playing.
[Touch HD General] Kangburra:
I think if you switch to S2P and use S2U2 the removal of the headphones will stop the music.
[Touch HD General] cybermaus:
Hi all,

Over in the X1 forum, they have a utility & thread to speed up SD card access, and they are benchmarking it with SKTools. It also briefly discussed in our graphics performance thread, but NeoS2007 justly noted it was a bit off-topic, as that thread is actually about OpenGL and D3D (maybe he can change the title)

Anyway, what really bugs me is not that the X1 utility does not work for HD, but that the HD has soo much less RAM (and flash) performance then the X1. Why? Is it not supposed to be nearly identical base machine? Have they used a cheap RAM chip, or is the timing of it wrong. Would that be a bootloader setting?

In fact, I suspect comparing flash speed between X1 and HD is irrelevant if the RAM is so different, you are in fact still measuring RAM.

For example, this is my HD:

(posting from others show it is a fairly normal HD, only a bit high in storage write, maybe because I have a Ultra-card):

RAM access: 544
Bitmaps: 785
Main write 1776
Main read 6413
Storage write 1303
Storage read 8657

The typical X1:

RAM access:1519
Draw Bitmaps:797
Main (write):11070
Main (read):17066
Storage (write): 483
Storage (read): 16832

Thats 3 times the RAM speed:eek:

And as everything depends on RAM, it does not even matter to mention the 6 times flash write speed:mad:

In this thread, I am hoping that people who have significant other findings (you can test this with the trail version of SKTOOL) post so, just to see what really is normal.

Or better yet, if someone smart is able to somehow change the RAM timing, by modding a bootloader or poking some bytes into a chip register somewhere. (I suspect the RAM timing is not a windows setting, but deeper than that)

If you do post your setting, please include if you applied any tweaks, and the brand/type/class of microSD.

Thanks
[Touch HD General] fards:
if you look at the index in sktools benchmark the HD gets given a score of 560 v 472 for the diamond on ram access.

i get on my x1

Integer 329.2257

FP 7.233

Ram 1502

Bitmaps 799

MS Write 8727.27

MS Read 15170.39

SD Write 487

SD read 16168.42

it's curious as I also thought that the two devices were internally very similar, what tweaks are you using?

Do you get different results in integer and floating point, as some people believe their X1s run at 400mhz
[Touch HD General] Vinski-:
Wow thats huge difference in ram speeds between blackstone and hd. But interestingly enough blackstone seems to perform better with in coreplayers benchmark. That maybe suggests that sktools is not accurate, or its buggy etc.
[Touch HD General] rhtizzy:
Tested using SKTools

Am running SPB Benchmark at the moment to compare
[Touch HD General] noris08:
my Touch HD:

Integer 330.3489

FP 7.605

Ram 576

Bitmaps 814

MS Write 1897.47

MS Read 7177.57

SD Write 192.25

SD read 6729.46

what the....?:eek:

why am i getting so low result for SD write? i have installes SD tuneUP and still....
[Touch HD General] cybermaus:
Annoying, but I suspect the top 4 benchmarks are much more critical in whether the device feels snappy than the latter 4, and of those, I think the read has more influence than the write. So maybe it makes you feel less bad to know the SD write is probably the least important one?

Also, it may simply be the SD card you have. I just bought an 'ultra', most people have a class II, maybe you have a class I?
[Touch HD General] noris08:
yeah, i know that this is the less important but it still bugs me.

that and the huge difference compared to x1:D

i have the 8gb Transcend microsd card that came within the package. i have no ideea what class it is. how can i find out?

it has a circle with a 6 inside of the circle printed on. that means it's a class 6? then the results i am getting worries me a lot
[Touch HD General] razorblader:
Since I kind of started this discussion in the other tread mentioned by cybermaus in his initial post, I think, I can put this to rest also. Run the Memory card benchmark in pocket mechanic (Trialversion available here: http://www.wizcode.com/downloads ) and you will see that the read/write performance of the 8GB card that came with the HD is quite remarkable, my results were even better than the ones posted over in the X1 thread here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3154958&postcount=257.

It's a more sophisticated bench for the card performance and we are talking about read performance of 22.5 MB/s unbuffered, 42 MB/s buffered and write performance of 1.80 MB/s unbuffered, 5.33 MB/s buffered, so all is good. The readings in the SK Tools bench seem to be false, I would suggest that this also goes for the ram performance readings. This is also consistent with the observation that the HD is the slightly faster device overall.
[Touch HD General] rhtizzy:
did that, got

read unbuffered 11,86 mb/s

read buffered 32,75 mb/s

write unbuffered 1,47 mb/s

write buffered 3,38 mb/s

Couldn't do the RAM readings as it kept complaining it needed 21,5MB free even tho 70% was free. But indeed quite a difference to SKTools (phew).
[Touch HD General] razorblader:
Does the same thing for me on the RAM bench, the low level tests for the the card bench also crash the program on my HD, so we are left with the file read/write tests, but good enough for me at the moment.
[Touch HD General] zuadao:
would be nice to do that benchmark before and after the install off sd_tuneup
[Touch HD General] johnpatcher:
Blackstone and HD are names for the same device ;).

The "tuneUP" doesn't improve the writing speed, it just increases the reading speed.
[Touch HD General] noris08:
i've noticed that 'cause i've made the test with and without tuneUP.

that's is too bad because one may need fast writing speed when taking movies or burst photos

i still can't understand the huge differences compared to X1

btw, i have got better results testing with pocket mechanic. i did it last night and i don't remember the numbers, but, for writing test, there were something like 2.35 mb unbuffered and 4.95 mb buffered.

menwhile i found out that he sd card is class 6.

but i am still bugged by the high numbers X1 scored:confused:
[Touch HD General] Vinski-:
Oh, looks like I mistyped it yesterday, I meant X1 versus blackstone :rolleyes:

But still wondering is the benchmark buggy, or why so huge difference. X1 doesnt feel that snappier, and looses Coreplayer benchmark, which uses software decoding in both, meaning pure processing power.
[Touch HD General] morzick:
Hi guys,

I found two interesting things when I tested my HD with SKtools.

1) I compared the results of SKTools SD card reading test before I install SD tuneUP and after. It was very suprised for me. The results are following:

Without SD tuneUp: ~5500 KB/sec

With SD tuneUp: ~ 2500 KB/sec

2) I made RAM SKTools read/write tests on HTC Touch Diamond and I was very-very suprised.

HD results:

Main storage (read): 5779 KB/sec

Main storage (write): 1692 KB/sec

Diamond results:

Main storage (read): > 8000 KB/sec

Main storage (write): > 8000 KB/sec

Who can explain that?
[Touch HD General] cybermaus:
But this, and may posts above, are focussing back to the SD card.

I really think the SD card is far less important than the RAM for general performance of the device. Checking the SD is like wanting a speedy car by checking how fast you can open the booth.

I'd like to indeed think that it may be a artefact in SKTool that causes the difference between HD and X1 RAM benchmarks (500 vs 1500). Especially since people tell me practical benchmarks like Coreplayer tell a different story.

But the difference is too significant to ignore. Does anyone know a different RAM/CPU (not SD) testing program?
[Touch HD General] noris08:
so you don' think writing speed of the sdcard is important!

i'll say it again - when you record a movie or burst some photos writing speed will count or not? maybe a drop more then opening the booth?;)
[Touch HD General] dazza9075:
Actually im thinking RAM is the issue here, the reason being yes the read speeds of the SD card would impact on the performace of loading the data which is why we have buffers, the problem i see is that im not getting buffer underruns so we dont have a shortage of data to play. So we are loading the data in to RAM without much issue.

RAM would also explain any lag issues people might be gettings with the over all performance of the device.
[Touch HD General] cybermaus:
I am not saying it is not important. I am saying it is less important than RAM speed:

If you record a video at full VGA resolution, it would mean a 640x480x30x3 or 27 MB/s stream into RAM/CPU/GPU (depending which does the compression). Next, it is compressed (so cycles around between RAM and CPU/GPU a bit) and finally needs to be written to a file in the compressed stream of maybe 1 or 2 Mbps. Which is 0.125 or 0.250 MB/s

If you play a XViD video, the same thing in reverse, except now the RAM bandwidth is even 35 MB/s because we want the full WVGA

So, SD requirements: between 0.1 and 0.3 MB/s. RAM requirements, way above 35 MB/s (the CPU also needs to calculate, not just move data)

Like you, I'd also like a faster SD. I would hope it would speed up loading a new program after selecting it from the launcher. Also, interrupt calls from the SD could cause jerkiness in video. And that one guy with 0.192 MB/s SD defenitely would like a faster SD.

But the fact SD is important, does not take away the fact RAM is more important, which brings us back to the original question: Is the SKTool test flacky, or is X1 significantly faster in RAM?
[Touch HD General] noris08:
that guy happens to be me:p

i am not arguing about bigger is better (i am speaking about RAM)

but considering the fact that X1 is also made by HTC, and it would be logic that they keep the best part of the cake for themselves (HD) i can only imagine that SE found a better management software of the given hardware.

can this be an explnation for the almost 1 year delay of the X1?
[Touch HD General] Psygnosis84:
I heard that getting a class 6 microsd card for the HD will make no difference compared to class 2 using programs within the HD and the difference is only when transferring off the HD to PC, is that true?
[Touch HD General] cybermaus:
Ah. Sorry. How about doing a HARD reset, only installing SKTOOL and/or that other benchmark mentioned, so see what the speed it then? If still so abnormally low, you may want to start thinking testing with a new SD.

Also, playing with benchmarks and stuff gets us through the evening, but it all about real applications. Have you actually tried to take some video's? Or try copying a 100MB file from internal to SD and time it. I can do the same.

Edit: PS please remember that a hard reset cleans your device, so have a backup of your data.
[Touch HD General] noris08:
no problem!:)

i don't want to do a hard reset as long as i have tons of progs installed and after 1 month of hard work (more then 10-15 soft resets a day) i finaly came to a satisfactory working device. not as i would like, but i can live with it for the moment

i am still bugged by the camera, but hoppfully someday a bright guy from here or some other place will find some tweaks also for that and the soft reset button. i am seriously think to drill a hole in the damn thing:eek:

back on topic - good ideea to ty a different card. i will swith to my old 2gb class 2 and see what is happening
[Touch HD General] cybermaus:
Done that already weeks ago. Through the back *and* through the hard-plastic case I have. I am now *seriously* hoping the HD will not develop a fault, because I am sure to fail warranty.
[Touch HD General] noris08:
as suggested i tryed 3 different cards on my HD and runed sktools sdcard test having tuneSD installed.

i've got some surprisingly results:

1. Transcend (the one that came within the package)

- 8Gb

- class 6

- FAT32

write - 199,24

read - 7070,20

2. Corsair

- 2 Gb

- class unknown as long it is about 2 years old

- FAT16

write - 618,45

read - 6958,10

3. Kingston

- 512 Mb

- class unknown as long it is about 2 years old

- FAT32

write - 257,70

read - 6911,87

as i can see, the reading results are more or less the same, but the writing results are realy annoing - worse result for the class 6 card and best result for FAT16 card?

does anybody understands why?

should i format my 8Gb card with FAT16?
[Touch HD General] dazza9075:
you cant, FAT16 wont support that size, i believe 4gb is max
[Touch HD General] cybermaus:
You forgot to check the cluster size. I believe best write performance is gotten with 32KB cluster size. It does mean you have some extra waste space 'overhead'.

However, this topic may more belong in the SD card thread, here or here where you can also find more info, including a graph compare of various cluster sizes.

Man, it is soo difficult to stick to the RAM issue. Probably because none of us (me included) has any clue what to do about it, or if it is even real, so we just default to talking about other topics.
[Touch HD General] fards:
has anyone tried spb benchmark yet?

it would be interesting to compare, it's a free piece of software for private use..

http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/benchmark/?en

It also does some "real world" benchmarks

you do have to sign up for it.

So far (this may not be the best test as I'm running a couple of other progs at the same time)

i get on my X1

Run 1 Run 2
read 1mb 33ms 33
write 1mb 524ms 453
copy 1mb 529ms 529
write 10kbx100 files 2885ms 3325
read "" "" 182ms 190
copy "" "" 2612ms 2553
Directory List of 2000 files 1361ms 1960
Internal Db read 622ms 657
Graphics DDB 8ms 8
"" DIB 31ms 31
"" GAPI 6ms 6
compress 1mb 2658ms
decompress 1024x768 jpeg 418ms
arkaball frames per second 9ms

whetstone mflops 3653
"" mops 1030
"" mwips 7318
copy 1mb using memcpy 9ms

Run 1 was with a couple of progs running, tf3d enabled etc. Run2 after soft reboot and kill unneeded processes, so may not be the most consistent benchmark.
[Touch HD General] cybermaus:
I only did the more CPU related ones (for now) and got:

Compress 3841 ms
Decompress 441 ms
MFLOPS 3804 ms
MOPS 1024 ms
MWIPS 7564 ms
MEMCPY 9ms

So that at least puts the X1 and HD as similar systems CPU and memory wise.

See if we can confirm this with other programs, and then we can forget about SKTOOL.

(X1 slightly faster, I best pretend I did not see that :rolleyes:)
[Touch HD General] razorblader:
That was the whole point of my last post, since SD card results are vastly different between SK Tools and Pocket Mechanic it's highly unlikely that the RAM benches in SK Tools have any relevance in relation to real-world performance. Just forget about the SK Tools benchmark results...
[Touch HD General] Alex Atkin UK:
I tend to agree.

One thing I noticed is sometimes SK Tools reports my RAM performance as 498. I went "WTF" and did a power down of the X1. Booted it back up and got 1508 or something like that. So there are definitely some issues there.

One thing I do suspect though. While SK Tools is complete BS in numbers it is still giving reasonable comparisons. For example I know my 8GB Kingston (150K/s) is still vastly underperforming compared to my 2GB Sandisk (400K/S). The numbers might be wrong (although I suspect they are right, but only for small filesizes not realistic usage), but they still clearly show the difference in performance.
[Touch HD General] andrewk21:
Disappointed with yours? How about my Touch HD:

Integer 267.1682

FP 6.860

Ram 527

Bitmaps 573

MS Write 1555.84

MS Read 5380.04

SD Write 660.79

SD read 6193.55

Slightly disappointing, isn’t it?