yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gentooboontoo:
Specific git repository?

Congratulations for every developper on blackstone and a big thanks to Orux for the last big steps made.

would it be possible to setup a Git repository specifically for blackstone at github for example or anywhere it would be useful to track changes and avoid to ask for a diff each time to the main developpers?

It would also be easier to contribute ...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] RaceFace:
WinMo-Shutdown and -Keylock killed by Linux!

After testing Android, my keylock (long pressing) and shudown (long pressing) won't work.

Could anybody help me?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
Orux waiting for ur pm.

Just came back from spanish lessons.

As some disrespectfuly requests I changed the thread name.

Happy now?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dwaradzyn:
Thats great, take your time. Will SD work after enabling it in .config? Are there any known issues with SD on blackstone?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
Nope no issues. With the Diamond/Pro kernell it did boot off-ram on sd.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] newtonthecat:
donate links pls

ok, so no one answered my last post, no worries, I'm a newbie and this thread is very active.

I Want to donate! orux - where's your donate link? I have xmoo's and I want to buy you guys lots of beer!

[edit] xmoo... i think I sent you some beer money.. my email add ends in ....odia.com, hope you got it! [/edit]

Newton
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] brumbrum:
Congratulations on the screen-fix!

I am waiting for you to get a working system up! When I will be able to flash my device with a working android-system you will get a nice donation. :-)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
Jup got it, Added you on page 1.

I'm uploading a video on Youtube with the booting proces and a bit of use of Android 1.0

Also you can see that there is a WVGA problem. Mayb it's a bug don't know.

Gonna link post as soons as video is available.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] johndox:
No.

The development should take place on xda-devs. The only reason, why there are so many inadequate posts is the fact, that you don't outline the goals (neither short-term, nor long-term) or the progress of this thread clearly and correctly.

You seem to be mainly focused on being seen as the head of the development team and on keeping control. But not in a way that helps the project to move forward. Don't try to lock up the development to your web-space.

You should choose a topic, that attracts potential developers and makes end-users aware, that this thread is not the right place for them.

(And please leave out all the !!!!!. This is just nonprofessional.)

Secondly,

the first post in this thread should state something like a roadmap and maybe there should be a link to the wiki-page, so nobody bugs with questions like "Is Android working?".

A roadmap would make clear, what needs to be done to make android functional.

Try to moderate your thread. If you can't do it, leave this challenge to someone with better English and management abilities and focus on how you can help with your personal strengths.

(And please don't get huffy, if someone has contrary wishes or opinions than yours. Nobody wants to offend you personally.)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jim256:
Couldn't have said it better. +1. This REALLY needs to be done / taken care of ^^^.

Good luck guys. Keeping post short. THANK YOU.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] newtonthecat:
Well said, but as i see it these guys are just enjoying their hobbies... this is not their professional job. Feed (donate) these geniuses beer and caffine and if they come up with something for us, great. If not, heck, it don't matter! If they were being paid a salary for their expertise in this kind of stuff we would never see any of this on here.

I can't believe that after all this work there are only 5 donations so far for xmoo. Promises to donate when there is something for "norms" to play with is not encouragment. If it can be done, these guys will do it, so give them some beer money now... :) (how do we donate beer to orux?)

btw xmoo, I like your new sig ;) very positive.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
Well it's not about the donations. It's about having fun. I don't mind at all awnsering 100times the same question. It shows that ppl actualy are aware of what is happening or what is going to happen. Also shows that a lot of people are interessted. Many voices is better than a small part of voice. Remember in the begining, some kernells only worked on my deviece. Well if other voices did not test it and gave feedback, the developement wouldn't grow so fast.

So I don't care what ppl say. I'm gonna keep this thread this way.

Johndox, you think you can do it, well do it! Please in love of god do it.

So I have more time for my study.

I'ma keep this thread for the peoples voice. And you have ur thread for the professionals :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g28XQml_0IQ New video. I don't know if it's a bug or something. But after a while of playing the screen get's fu up.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] patp:
Just a thought, but if I was seriously thinking about spending many, many hours of my life on a project, and some guy was sitting around ready to take credit for my work, misrepresenting it into the bargain, I just wouldn't bother.

No more posts from me on this thread.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
Who is taking the credit??

Do you see me saying that i've managed to do everything???

As you can see i'm saying that you fixed some things and orux fixen some thing...

The people arn't blind, they saying the same thing. They know you and orux managed to fix the screen and colour problem!

Damnn, now I know why one of the best rom coockers on XDA is planning to leave.

For those who do care, did a small thread update on the first page.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] harondaddy:
The video looks great Xmoo!!!! Congrats on this achievement. Have you received any calls or made calls from Android yet?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
Nope, none yet. I could try to boot 0.8 and try it then. Don't know why but in Android 0.8 many ppl were able to get a incoming call. In 1.0 it didn't work (I'm talking bout HTC Kaiser back in the days and Sony Ericsson Xperia X1)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] stefh:
WTF is going on? :mad:

Is this all about wrong people getting credit for something?

I thought we gave you guys credit as a team.

As long as you know you did achieve something for yourself. Isn't that the thing that matters?

Are you just doing it to get attention then?

I thought it also was about personal challenge for you developers.

Too bad it has to be this way.

And please don't forget xmoo started the project. So it is logical.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
Whatever is going on just leave it and let's stay ontopic please.

If we realy want to argue let's meet somewhere cause this is childish and it filling up the thread.

Some of the things in post1 are still open. Can someone awnser those questions?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Rewpparo:
+1

Orux, the kernel I compiled run from SD card, but yours just get stuck at Haret loading 100%. How old is your kernel source from the git ? Maybe I have a newer version than you that fixes this (mine is from around 06/02), or maybe it's a configuration problem. I'm using your 0202 diff to compile mine though. Maybe you deactivated modules since then ?

Also, sometime after loading, the image gets distorded, as if there's not enough pixels in each line. The distortion changes every time I touch the screen, and is getting worse with each touch. I don't know if it's linked with screen update or touchscreen. Sorry I can't make pics, my blackstone is my camera.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] CyberSalsero:
I have booted Android 0.8.

It seems to work!

I have tried to call me from another phone, it rings :eek: but on the android screen nothing appears!

:confused:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] orux:
Do you see /dev/mmc* device?

Can you access sd files from angstrom?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
Rewpparo, you talking bout something like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zgC9vNrjIU

I booted trough sd, and it had this problem....
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jim256:
Just wanted to ask to make sure, all of the donations that have been made are going to be split between the devs right?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
omfg is this all abotu donations....

I've taken the link away in post #1.

hopfully that good with all of ya'll.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jim256:
No need to make it a huge deal? :S

I just contributed to this linux / android project and wants to make sure that everyone who has struggled and worked so hard for this gets part of my contribution :) I wouldn't feel right about Orux not getting anything after all his hard work :(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
Well most of the donations was in January made, when I was @ home and was trying to get android to fix....

So I think, if ppl see is as a big problem. We make a new donations things of it, and then spread it within the developers. (EX me, cause i'm in Barcelona and can't do **** now, besides testing). Ppl are happy this way???
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] body85:
sorry for this bad questin... In the first post u show the image with the right color.... the files to download (on-ram) are the old ziamge or? Can u update the new one. This one u use in the Youtube video?

Please.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] orux:
Thanks guys, but all your appreciate is enough for me. As someone told before, this is a personal challenge. My obstination is my stamina.

Note that this is a community work, there are a lot of people inside and outside this thread working with this or similar devices.

But it is difficult coordinate this work, because most of us are spending our free time.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jim256:
Ok, great sounds good :) I agree, thank you thank you a lot though!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] theq86:
unable to open rtc device (rtc0), then freeze.

what's wrong?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
Well I tried to upload it yesterday but didn't work.

Waiting for the sd-drivers to be added and then upload the new package.

So it would be a huge update.

With this bad internet here in spain.

It's not worth it to upload 70mb everyday cause of one small thing added to kernell.

Sry.

If I were @ home with my 100mbit fiber optical. I would had uploaded every minit.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jim256:
Have we tried 1.1 yet? Who knows what other fixes etc it might include?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
Well Jim, to be real I did want to try that.

first I couldn't find the files.

And when I finaly got the, they were off-ram only.

When Sd-card is not working, testing something like that is not usefull.

That's why I said we have to get sd to work first.

EDIT:

Jim, here is a list with the fixes in 1.1

http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-1.1.html

As you can see, there are a lot of changes/fixes.

So if someone can find the 1.1 off-ram and on-ram.

Mine is back @ home :(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] furrypotato:
Have u tried a few times ? It won't boot for me first time so keep trying.

Even at this stage it's so nice to see applications like browaer start up instantly - an OS that shows our hardwares potential properly !

Looking forward to watching the progress over the coming months, thanks guys .
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] 1337_V1k1n6:
almost there

so looking forward to android fully functioning on my hd :D keep up the good work guys!! :D:D:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] p3ngwin:
agreed, so beautiful!

another milestone achievement !
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] p3ngwin:
BLOODY HELL!!!

another milestone !

and DAMN it looks smooth, is this hardware accelerated?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] El Massman:
how stable is cupcake? wouldn't the jump to 1.5 instead of 1.1 be more beneficial due to the on screen keyboard? or have i missed something and is that included in 1.1?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
Don't know what orux has done in the last kernell but you are right. Damn it is smooth!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
Is there a 1.5 :O

You got the files???
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] El Massman:
no, i'll have a look round though. i saw a blog about someone booting it on the diamond i think. i'll see what i can find. give me a minute.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] El Massman:
http://i.gizmodo.com/5140578/taking-androids-cupcake-15-update-for-an-early-spin

that's the site i was looking at from my history. don't know if that's helpful at all. has links to the sdk but i don't know what exactly you need?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] stefh:
Is this 1.5 as mentioned?

http://nullwire.com/try_out_cupcake_yourself

Is this useful, as there are only minor hardware differences with the G1? http://andblogs.net/images/snapshots/

and also check the home section of the website.

Just trying to contribute and speed up things.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] El Massman:
yeah, that's the one. :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
I need to check those pages at home.

I tried to download: http://andblogs.net/downloads/master-20090217-1.zip

It took about 3 hours so i Canceld it.

So hope I can do some downloading at home.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] stefh:
I am downloading right now (goes at quite reasonable speed) and will upload it to my webspace for you, maybe it makes a difference in Spain to download from. I will provide you with the link inside a PM.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
alright, thank you very much.

Well first tell me what's in the zip.

So I can tell you if it's worth uploading it.

in a PM ofcourse.

Thx.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daniel.hunt:
There's no need for stealth regarding file up/downloads. Here's a public mirror I just added, plus an extracted directory (that I'll leave up for a while) so you can browse it without downloading the whole thing.

Let me know if it's useless and I'll delete it.

File: ftp://ftp.unreal.ie/hosted_sites/xda-developers/roms/android/cupcake/master-20090217-1.zip

Directory: ftp://ftp.unreal.ie/hosted_sites/xda-developers/roms/android/cupcake/master-20090217-1

*edit* chmods fixed
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] stefh:
Well it was, because I don't want too much traffic on my webspace ;)

But thanks for your mirror.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] pichurri:
First, Orux, you're THE MAN!!!

Also, great work: Patp, JanSchotsmans.

Xmoo stop making all that noise, ppl might think you're actually doing development, and will start donating, anyways.

Second, I've run 2.6.27 on blackstone and it supports mmc (sd memory) and more hardware, also most of the development of Raphael/Diamond (hardware is really similar to blackstone). So we might as well go and port the screen fix to 2.6.27 as it would save us a lot of time. I might be able to port it, I'm kind of busy so it'll take me some time, but I could, specially if this gives more time to the hardcore devs to do hardcore development (drivers, reverse ing, etc).

So, let me know.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] stefh:
Probably only difference is the screen. Same goes for the G1/Dream which is even native android.

All seem to use the same core hardware.

That is also probably the reason why noobs like me do not understand why it is not that easy to do a direct port.

You can compare everything here: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Glideh:
At least they have clearly not the same screen,

which was the main problem until now.

Meanwhile, pdadb.net speaks more about

characteristics than hardware, for example they

don't tell the brand and model of video and sound

cards.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gerdgerdgerd:
hi guys

i tried to start android on my german touch hd, first the linux is booting but with some color problems. i've used the files of the first post.

ROM-Version: 1.14.207.2 (24011) GER

Radio: 1.09.25.14

here is a bad photo, but u see what i mean.

its very very slow, like your unusable older version.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ultimasnake:
Ohhh man it totally backfired on me :( ... first time it ran but crashed on the linux screen, did a reset nothing bad happend. The next time it hang on the loading linux screen, had to reset and now my phone can't run signed apps...

Found the link on the first post of this thread and tried all applications!! non work... the biggest issue i have is that i'm willing to hard-reset but can't backup my contacts (no outlook here...) and can't run PpcPimBackup anymore!!! any other program fails too...

Can anyone pm me a link to something that might work? I tried:

SDA_ApplicationUnlock.exe

HTC Application Unlock.zip

sdkcerts.cab

SP_AllowCertificateInstall.cab

in this and many other orders :(..............
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Glideh:
Reading the previous posts, you will see that several other

versions have been posted. The first post should be updated.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
Well i'm not in a mood of updating. Will try to update the files 2night.

What is happening on XDA... Is it breaking down??

Check the other topics...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daniel.hunt:
There was a newer image posted, I've put it up here:

ftp://ftp.unreal.ie/hosted_sites/xda-developers/roms/android/htc_touch_hd/2009-02-23_01_zImage.zip
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] billybond:
FAQ page 1 :

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2844228&postcount=15
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
You can find those files with the search button.

I do have them but not here at work :(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] scanny:
Xmoo...u can update first post with this link...http://rapidshare.com/files/201994255/Android10.rar

Latest on-ram version
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ultimasnake:
As posted I read that post, but the single post is only a question not even an answer to the problem, after clicking my way back to the origional thread i found some of solutions BUT neither of them work for me. Either I have to install a cab, which can't be done because of the signed error, the SDA_unlock doesn't seem to have any effect, the HTC tool has to be installed which can't be done :(..

I found those files already but can't find any other methods on google/xda
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Kristaps-K9-Lv:
Check here: http://www.petitiononline.com/xdadevs/petition.html

Bassically microsoft doesnt want us to make ROMs and they think its illegal but we think its legal!!! check here for more comments http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=294213&page=31

BUT ::: lets dont get of the topic!!! --- Update the first page with some instructions and Files!!!

I LUV ANDROID, BUT I LOVE WINDOWS MOBILE EVEN MORE!!!! :D :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] shisux:
It's my understanding that xmoo hasn't yet updated the files in the first post, might be wrong though. It seems the man has a slower connection than what I'm getting (and I connect through my Blackstone atm, until we get our DSL installed, and it takes me 13 minutes to download the zip-files in the first post :P) which would explain why he would be reluctant to constantly upload some reasonably large files after every upload.

I'm sure we'll get updates as soon as people can manage to provide them. Pestering the people working hard on things probably won't speed things along.

Feel free to disregard my whole rant should the files in the first post actually be the bleeding edge.

EDIT: seems my connection isn't the only thing that's slow :) Serves me right for trying to post in a thread this hot through cellular internet in a pretty high fewer...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daniel.hunt:
This should be moved to the Wiki, where more than 1 person is capable of updating the first post
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
added. Thx.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] deepinside88:
nice nice it runs very smooth and seems to be stable i think a nice solution can be a bootloader for android/windows mobile :D is this theoretical possible?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] crankshaft:
No, that's old news, about 2 years old!

Have a look at http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3373252&postcount=1842
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Kristaps-K9-Lv:
yea-- noticed that those are old news about 5 minutes after posted that post :D

But still XDA will continue its work, no mather what!!!!

atleast i hope...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gaelynx:
Thanks developers for this big progress, the wiki should be updated.

I'm pretty sure that the resistive touch layer goes down beyond the LCD screen itself, the same way as the 'Gesture area' of the palm pre.

Thus the 4 buttons (call, home, back, hang up) that we have on the Blakstone are actually soft keys, unlike the volume 'rocker' and the power button, which are hardware buttons.

According to my tests on the current version that we have, the booting hangs if we are connected to usb (either to the pc, or to the power supply to recharge).

If on battery, linux boots, we calibrate the screen, then Android boots as well with correct color, and the UI is smooth; But its still quite unstable, and hangs after a while, or the displaying gets wrong (somehow 'offseted', but touch coordinate remains correct).

I also experienced hanging just before the calibration.

If we wait too long at booting the calibration is not done, and Android boots but the touchscreen input becomes wrong (because of the lack of calibration).

So make sure you calibrate:

tap the screen when the booting stops at "trout_prwsink_set:STUB!"

Then follow calibration instruction (tap upper left corner then lower right corner).

Android's built in Dev Tools might be useful, for example under Development Settings we can set to show the CPU usage (cf here for more information).

I noticed for example that sometimes when crashing the CPU-usage red meter bar is at maximum.

I couldn't get any text input working in Android itself (but it works at linux boot time): the google search box, the terminal emulator, and the notepad are crashing when we try to use them. But the soft keyboard is useful to comeback to previous screen for example, by pressing the 'Esc'.

other tests:

- setting up the screen brightness doesn't have any effects.

- same for setting up the volume.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] orux:
GPIOS:

sd card detect and stylus detect are the same than raph800.

sd data and clock pins seems to be the same than raph100.

If those work on raph, will work on blackstone.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
Orux, holla @ me with like a msn adres skype or something.

We need to chat. Got something that might be usefull.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] monzablue16v:
Cracking work guys :) Community effort = win.

on a tangent for a second, following on from another thread about dual core CPU's is this enabled in Linux by default hence the speeds everybody is mentioning? I know we are early days but just curious :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Glideh:
I can confirm that the 4 lower buttons of

the blackstone are part of the touch layer.

I saw that after a wrong calibration that

allowed me to browse all the buttons of the

virtual keyboard by tapping on this

area