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[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] stuart.tavener:
default.txt

I dont see a default.txt file anywhere to edit, there is a startup.txt file with some APN details in... is it this one i need to edit ?

where does the file need to exist, on the storage root or inthe boot folder with the image.z file ?

thx.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cvchetan:
i think wht tux posted is the zimage.

ull need to replace the zimage on ur sdcard with this one..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ASK768:
does anyone else think there should be some kind of news/updates on the first post? like the improving gfx performance thread?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mcdull:
sure.. but I think the kernel just enable the support of the new fs. And what must be done is to config the system to use the new fs.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MathSWE:
Thanks! Do I need to set up APN every time I boot Android? Is is one time enough? Also... for setting up a dataconnection in WINMO, is it enough to reload weather status? Or opening Opera and load a homepage?

//Mathias
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bl@ck:
keep up the good work tux!

this image is working good like the other posted earlier, the sound works, you can ear a "click" every time you click on something in the screen.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cvchetan:
well only u need to do the exercise the first time..

then onwards its fine...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cvchetan:
do u see ne differences in the speed??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bl@ck:
none atm, probably if everything was more stable you could notice it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] aavan:
There's not a lot of differece in speed, going back to the "home" screen seems bit faster, but I think that for a much increased speed improvement with the new kernel we will need a new android image which use squashfs
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] townkat:
is this suposed to run with the usual diamond builds ? it does not seem faster to me, but maybe i don't know where to look ?

btw: thnx alot tuxhero, you give great contribution to blackstone android, keep the good work
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] patp:
Using the Vogue files from here:

http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android/wiki/HowToInstall

I do think it's more responsive but can't say whether that's the sqshfs system or something else (it's a system with all the google proprietary stuff taken out, so I would expect it to be quicker anyway, less processes running).

Anyone know how to make a hero.conf file work?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Here is hero build for kaiser but it's not able to start Graphic Mode in Android seem some problem with OpenGL lib's

http://kaiser-hero.googlecode.com/files/kaiser-hero-100909.zip

If any one having free time then please try getting this hero build working.

Iam working on Improving TouchScreen Drivers so i can't put much time on this hero port.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] patp:
Ah... was just trying to get this to boot. Waiting on black screen wondering why it took longer than usual!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] DarkStone1337:
Nice to hear from you tuxhero!

I've uploaded another android pack, includes tuxhero's latest zImage (sqshfs, sound from loudspeaker, volume buttons) with the Vogue port.

http://gamesquare.co.uk/blackstone/android/BLAK100_ANDROID_SND_UPDATED.7z

Extract all the files to the root of the SD card. You'll need winrar/7zip to unzip it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Cyclone_storm:
Thanks DarkStone, I have already tried about 3 other build that didn't boot.

I must say the it runs about the same as the other one, maybe a bit slower.

But this one froze with me when I tried to change the language. (only English

in this version) But this one boots really fast (and it even had an Android

Logo at boot up :D) If I have to choose between this one and the other one

I probably choose the first one. It's slightly faster, it never froze on me, and

it looks better, but thats just my opinion. But thanks for the build though.

:D:D:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] El Massman:
thanks a lot! this is actually running really well. i think it looks a lot better than the previous build as everything seems to be at out native resolution. i'd consider making the change to this full time if i could only turn off the screen...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] snahmed:
So when is the complete version going to be released that we can put on our blacstone as stand alone operating system.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cvchetan:
pls refer to a couple of pages back for ur answer..

read the posts before posting...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] snahmed:
I read the post couple of pages back where it said that right now its not stable enough to do that so I ask when does tux think it is going to be stable enogh to have it as a standalone system.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] LelleZet:
Where is the problem to boot Android from Haret? Multiboot like Win XP/Vista has many advantages also Windows Mobile/Android. i think we should concentrate on the essential: running Android in Touch HD, stable and every day suitable.

Thanks to all guys, who working on it !!! The last week is like christmas for me. :)

sorry for my bad english :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] patp:
brilliant.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] aavan:
It could be in one week or it could be in several months, it's not a precise science sorry, devs can't foresee what problems they could run into, they're human, not some kind of weird supernatural beings (even if they're geniuses).

Bottom line : Patience it will come once it's ready.

PS : My guess it's that it will take several months.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bl@ck:
it'll take time, we're a step closer but still a bit far to have a stable and usable OS :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Roadrunner100:
Yup, a brilliant roller-coaster ride. Love having something to look forward to.

As someone suggested a few posts back, we will soon need to introduce some baselines and procedures so that development can benefit further from testing and QA; A Common Android build, that will be tweaked for Blackstone will produce a baseline for kernel testing, producing coherent feedback from all. Same goes for nailing a Default.txt file configuration.

Sincere thanks and appreciation to all those involved in development and testing.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mwchadwick:
Excellent work tuxhero... We're almost at a stage where I can regularly use the OS, I'm very excited :D

One thing though - the sound always comes through the speaker even with headphones in (rest of the office would not be please with my taste in music) and I've noticed that the headphones icon is permanetly shown in the status bar - even if the headphones are not in.

And yet one more thing - a way to shutdown Haret and get back to WinMo without popping off the back cover for a reset would be brill, it would certainly encourage me to do more regular testing.

Brilliant work all round guys - I'll try to contain my excitement... :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
If we are able to get LCD On and Off working then we can start moving towards standalone system.

LCD Code,

Improved Finger Support for Touch Screen,

Headset Drivers

This is my todo list.

IMPORTANT

My USB in Android is not at all working but i found many people saying that there USB is working so i want to know how many of you are able to get USB Working.

If you USB is working then please post you Radio ROM and OS Versions.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Vasily_K:
Hi there,

I was able to run thease builds, but not able to find a three network(in London)

I got next List:

OrangePCS Ltd

BTCellnet

OrangePCS Ltd

Vodaphone Ltd

One 2 One Person

Vodaphone Ltd

One 2 One Person

BTCellnet

I have found in google what BTCellnet=O2 network and also assuming that

One 2 One Person could be three network.

from windows mobile I am able to find a three 3g network.

Also saved APN for three network

Name - three

Apn - three.co.uk

MCC - 234

MNC - 20

Any ideas how to connect to three 3g ?

and also if I press power button display is not switching off.

Many thanks,

Vasily.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bl@ck:
Yesterday i had the phone plugged with usb on my pc in activesync and when i started haret my pc found a new peripheral but couldn't install any driver for it.

atm i'm using L26 LEOV2 Rom with radio 1.17
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cvchetan:
its still in dev mode so dont expect complete functionality out of it...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cvchetan:
i tried all possiblities to check even if a usb device was found, did even use a mac but the usb did not work out.

although i realized that when i placed my finger on the light sensor the screen dimmed and when the finger was taken off the screen brightness increased.. that means the light sensor is working..

cheers

chetan
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mwchadwick:
Hi tux... (for purposes of elimination) I'm on "Duttys HD WM6.5 Leo R5" ROM and Radio 1.17.25.09 and USB is not working for me either. And by not working I mean that when connected to a power supply it does not appear to be charging and when connected to a PC it does not appear to be recognised as a USB device.

Good to hear that the Headset drivers are on your todo list...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] darkdominus:
Hi tuxhero, just to say that my usb connection is very strange. The phone says it's charging, the icon shows charging, but my pc does not recognize the device as a USB device!!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] darkdominus:
Yes, i can confirm that the light sensor it's working.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] aavan:
When I have the phone connected to my pc via activesync before I start haret, when android boots, windows find a new peripheral, except I don't have any driver for that, so I guess USB is working but need something more to be activated.

My ROM is : Miri WM 6.5 21864 :: V 27.0

My Radio ROM is :1.17.25.09
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cvchetan:
once u boot into linux then go to the device manager on ur pc n check if there is any uninstalled item shown under usb controlleres..

if it is shown tht means usb is detected else it means usb is not detected..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] aavan:
Device manager is showing "MSM USB" and it's status is "Uninstalled driver"

There's only one attached peripheral via USB on the PC, and it's the phone, so... it works !
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Rumbi:
Same with modified Xperia (Kovsky) Radio 1.16.25.48 and Protocol-version 52.67.25.35U
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] darkdominus:
Same here, MSM USB also "Uninstalled driver".
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] El Massman:
has anyone on orange uk managed to get a working data connection yet?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Thegn:
Thank's for posting the irc log link, patb! Interesting reading, even if I'm not a programmer.

Seems like progress is being done, but mostly for other devices than the Blackstone. Hopefully those working with it can update the Blackstone Wiki when they have time and post test images, (even if they are not fully working with all bells and whistles). But I'm glad for all the work they are doing for the community!

Thanks!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ddhb:
I hope Android runs as soon as possible on our HTC Touch HD because it is a great phone but Windows Mobile sucks...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] patp:
Have faith, there are a couple of people there working actively on the blackstone. Progress will get much quicker when the console becomes readable.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daniel.hunt:
*subscribing*

I'm also incredibly interested in getting Android on my Touch HD
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jim256:
I'm also subscribed...don't hold your breath tho lol.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] orux:
First of all, sorry about my bad English.

I´ve been working with the blackstone spl and I´ve found interesting things:

The way it shows the splash screen (black, with "smart mobility" in the middle) is very "peculiar".

1º takes the splash from rom and put it in a framebuffer. This is a 800x480 picture, in rgb565 format.

2º verifies a signature at the end of it.

3º from each line, calls a routine that convert rgb565 format in rgb666 (0x3c0 bytes --> 0x438 bytes).

4º sends each line (not the framebuffer) to the lcd controler.

The linux kernel works with rgb 565, and sends all the screen in a one step to the lcd.

If the screen (or the controler) is rgb 565 capable, why the spl do a time expensive conversion (rgb565 to rgb 666) to send the splash to the screen?

And finally, if you take a rgb565 anf forces it to rgb888 (sorry but i didnt find any 565 to 666 conversor by the moment) you will see a pattern similar to the one we see in our linux blacstone.

I´m not sure if this is the solution, because wince apperars to work too in rgb565, but in this moment is the only i have.

I will work in this approach next days, if i can recovery my (this night) broken /home partition :(

If anyone more wants to study this cuention, wellcome!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] patp:
Interesting stuff Orux. Am I right in thinking the Blackstone is the only other handset with the same graphics hardware as the G1/Dream? What does the G1 framebuffer driver do?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] JanSchotsmans:
If it really was the same hardware, we would be able to run the Linux kernel used in the G1 Android install to boot from the HD.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] orux:
The processor is the same, but there are different panels (sharp, toshiba,...) and different controlers, with different initialization, and perhaps different way of work.

I've inserted a rgb565to666 function before the fb_console sends the framebuffer to the screen. The result is: that this is not the solution :(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigDaemon:
Hmm, i will get my Blackstone next week i hope, then i can help you testing Android on it.

Until then: Has anyone already thought about the refresh-rate of the screen? Perhaps this could be the failure?! Only a thought of someone who is really new in this material....

(Sorry for my english as i am german ;-) )
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] JanSchotsmans:
Orux: the impression I have from the bootscreen of the linux kernel is that its trying to display 800x480 on a 480x800 screen and is overflowing the lines.

so it sends a 800 pixel wide buffer line to a 480 pixel wide hardware line, and that it then overflows 320 of the rest to the next line.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] patp:
Is it possible to work in a kind of debug fashion? Put a few lines in sending various data to the fb_console? Eg if you send an 'a' and nothing else, you can interpret the output.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daniel.hunt:
I have to say, I'm incredibly interested in all of this talk. Is there any point in me reading up on how to go about doing any of this myself (purely for nerdy, self-indulgent reasons), or is it just far too complex to even bother trying?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] JanSchotsmans:
daniel: the talk is at a driver and framebuffer level, which, next to core kernel programming is rather deep indeed.

Orux: mind sending me the kernel sources your using?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daniel.hunt:
Thanks for the response - I'm a Linux user myself, so I'm aware as to what a kernel is.

That, however, is the extent of my knowledge about it :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] orux:
Here you can get all the tools and sources:

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlackstoneLinux
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] orux:
There is a "irregular" overflow, it seems a random overflow.

The "width" and "height" are correct; the dma configuration used by linux kernel is the same than wince, where works ok.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] patp:
Related to different lines of console output having differnt lengths?

There's this:

/* Set max console size for a 4x4 font */

#define HTC_FB_CON_MAX_ROWS (HTC_FB_LCD_WIDTH / 4)

yet the config is set to 8x8 font:

+CONFIG_FONT_8x8=y
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
Alright, I tried the new zImage from the Raph100.

Putted my Touch Hd into VGA mode.

Boot: Ok

Touch screen: Ok

Align: Ok

Colours: Fu up

Screen: Fu up (But better than wvga boot)

Video and pix are cming. And you can notice. That the Android build is just not working with the screen size. The menu bar is located left below the screen in stead of the midle.

So mayb we do need the Tablet version of Android. I tried the Nokia one but it did not boot :(

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zgC9vNrjIU
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] NeoS:
So the new raph zimage boots but the screen needs to be calibrated right?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MrCrazy:
Will the version which is out now for the blackstone also work on the touch pro 2?

If i want to test this are there many differences between these 2 phones?

And if i test it could it harm my touch pro 2, for example it got bricked?

Keep up the good work and i soon hope that this version of android also will be ported to the tp2 :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mwchadwick:
Well I can confirm that USB is definately not working for me - I've "Duttys HD WM6.5 Leo R5" ROM and Radio 1.17.25.09... Nothing new appearing under USB controllers in Device Manager for that ROM/Radio combo

Update: scratch that - If I follow the full instructions (i.e. boot into WinMo then connect to PC using active sync) and then start Haret I do get a new "MSM USB" device on my PC
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Thankyou it worked for me.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Khoufou:
USB Status:

ROM: Miri 24320 test2 with Radio 1.14:

Launched haret while in activesync mode.

My gnu linux system says:

Oct 13 13:58:49 minime kernel: usb 1-8: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 9

Oct 13 13:58:49 minime kernel: usb 1-8: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice

USB is recognized, but not usable. Seems not all kernel options were defined in this build (latest tuxhero vmlinuz build with squashfs).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Kael:
Tiny thing about audio (yeah I know it's working, I should be grateful ^^) but there's a permanent hissing in the background, that increases if you bring the volume down.

Just to let the devs know :D

Otherwise, all the rest is quite good (even if I couldn't test data connection, I'm a bit a noob with android and linux in general)

(WM rom is Dutty's R4)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] patp:
My USB experience has been that I get the MSM USB device detected when booting into linux, and it makes no difference whether I was in Activesync or Mass Storage mode, but I am not able to get a driver to properly install for it. In the past, I did get linux.inf to work and it adds a new RNDIS network device, which I could use to SSH into Angstrom. Currently that's not working.

However, I am able to attach to Haret in WinMo as long as I have advanced networking enabled on the Blackstone. For those that have turned this off because it wasn't working, you need to enable the DHCP service in the desktop.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] maxym77:
hi boys, why my android with lastsest zImage don't register with GSM Network?

I have last energy rom (manila 2.5) and new radio 1.17.25...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
Can u please build a HTC Hero Based ROM
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mwchadwick:
When you boot into WinMo, do you get prompted to enter the pin code for your sim? If so you need to disable the pin checking - i.e. next time you boot your phone into WinMo you get straight onto the GSM net without having to enter anything.

If you've done that you should be getting onto the GSM net in Android

P.S. make sure to use a 1.5 android image - if you mean a 1.6 image by latest then I was never able to get on to the GSM net with 1.6
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] maxym77:
i have disabled the pin control in my phones...

i never use pin control
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mwchadwick:
ok... pin control disabled and you still can't get a GSM net - are you using the latest 1.6 Android build? Or tuxhero's zImage (a 1.5 version)?

I could not get the latest/1.6 builds working...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cvchetan:
select ur network manually...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] idandush:
this can be great , because right now i have all kind of applications getting stock.

maybe this can resolve it , and let us play with the hero content a little bit .

after all , people are excited over here :)

:p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] maxym77:
i use this:

Kernel with squash fs support.

http://abimanyu.in/android/zImage-squashfs.tar.gz
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] maxym77:
When i click to "search netowrks" i see:

Error while searching for networks.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cvchetan:
format ur card if its only having linux or delete the linux files, dnload the latest image which includes the latest zimage n try again...

fr ur inf i m on miri 28 with 1.17 radio n it works good...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] maxym77:
i have 6.5 gb of data in my blackstone (pics and movie) i can't format my storage card... :/
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cvchetan:
well thn manually delete all the linux files...

ill give u an advise.

create a folder with a name of ur choice nd pull all the data except the linux files into that folder.

this will help u minimize the mess on the card since the linux files need to be on the root...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Vasily_K:
What was the last stable build with everything working on it ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] maxym77:
uhm. i have removed the /TMP folder from my storage card and i have re-downloaded this:

http://www.gavero.com/pichurri/blackstone/android_cupcake/android_cupcake_2009-03-10.zip

and i have extracted to /TMP

The phone don't register with network.

1 month ago this works fine on my phone!!!

I think the problem is in the last energy release rom!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cvchetan:
do not keep the extracted files inside any folder..

place them directly on the card..

dload from here

http://rapidshare.com/files/292504916/BLACK100_ANDROID_SOUND_latest.zip
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] darkdominus:
Hi, i'm trying ti boot kaiser hero version and everything goes fine until android tries to go into graphic mode. The screen goes all black but the phone it's not blocked, the softkeys work but i can't see anything. Can some one help me?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] core7x:
maybe problem with opengl es as tuxhero mention above... refer to the vogue port branch
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] darkdominus:
That's bad, cause this builds allmost works fine. I saw a build were there was lots of widgets to add but now i can't seem to find the widgets (Flip Clock with weather, etc)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] core7x:
look here and need some configuration on that

im think we focus for stable release until someone working with opengl es problem
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] DarkStone1337:
Well sure, I can make a pack with files ready to go.

But the build doesn't boot, seems to be graphical problems as you mentioned before. Let me know if you still want me to upload the files. :)

EDIT:

For those who want to try a latest working build of the ION variant, try this

http://gamesquare.co.uk/blackstone/android/BLAK100_ANDROID_SND_UPDATED.7z

Extract to root of SD card, NOT in a folder. Run haret.exe in winmo to boot.