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[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] S.V.I:
original manila skin: ONLY 24?! the old skin i sometimes got 27 after reset :P

after you instlled the new (old) skin manila restarted.. and cleared the ram. If you do a soft reset with the old skin, you will get the same results.

the ram continues to climb due to album searcher and mail. these things are running in the background after you set u your mail and activate the photo tab. If you set your device to download emails automaticaly, tmail.exe continues to run -NoUI (no user interface). this is included in the registry for manila (and probably coded into the exe itself as most things are). this memory leak continues to plague me.

I use pocket artis a lot. it helps me make sketches for the themes that I use; as well as screenshots that I make. because it works like layers in photoshop, I end up running out of ram (see hornet screenshots). So when I see a flaw with the ram performance on my device I take it very seriously: which is why my skins for manila as well as the keyboard (in my signature) have such simplified and compressed graphics.

I have taken it one step further and eliminated duplicate graphics in the xml. for example, the internet highlights are the same graphics as the ones in the settings tabs and gmail. duplicate masks that have the same gfx (mail messaging arrows etc) have had their names changed in the xml so that it only opens one file instead of 3 or more. the background file in manila is the same in all the tabs, and the extra backgrounds in gmaps tab have also been removed as they serve no purpose.

so this is what I recomend you to do: take all of the files in my theme and compare it to the files in the original theme. you will see that the size of the package is nearly half that of the original theme with fewer files. It was the only way I was able to cook it into the rom and still have a full working office.

I also made it so that you can install new themes and eliminate garbage (you can uninstall most of the manila theme under remove programs) for those who have different esthetics.

On the "yotaphone app"

I have not downloaded the 8mb cab yet. have to been able to download it with OM or PIE. been to busy to use internet sharing with my laptop. Due to the size of the package (unless I can compress it like the keyboard and manila) I may not be able to fit it in. anxious to try it though. :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] xxxlux:
Yes, you are completely right. After restoring your skin I have 1MB more memory. After a day of intensive use (internet, maps, e-mail etc) still have a 25MB free program memory.

Yet I wonder why before installing the "old" and "new" skin I did not have this important increase in memory even I soft reset the device and disable/enable m2d several times.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] RoryB:
Under Quick menu you can pick hibernate to free up some ram.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jcjames:
nice Rom for Wizard!

Two thumbs up for this ROM. Fast and has more program memory. but i have one problem and it seems all m2d Roms has this problem. Moblue seems to not work well in m2d. I use moblue coz im often use BT connectivity. Im dealing with large size of files and we know that the built-in BT function stores the recieve files in Phone memory, moblue can save the BT recieved files to memory card directly. the problem is that the built-in BT function recieves the file not moblue thus saving it to phone memory. So its like it overrides the moblue program. Is there a way to stop the built-in BT and use moblue instead? Sorry for my english :D
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] S.V.I:
You can change where the file gets beamed. I had mine beamed to storage card. BT explorer has to be enabled, and the folder needs to be set.

It is possible to recieve files to storage card.

Hope that helps.

I will see what registry settings do that at some point once I am finished otimizing manila for the next rom. I will be done soon as I figured out how to construct image files to take up even less space (and ram)!!! even transparent ones :)

so as soon as I am done with that I will try to get BT explorer enabled and set to storage card. I have to ask for your patience though until I get to it.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] RoryB:
I was playing with someone's "cleaner" looking battery images for S2U2. They were sharper looking images, but larger files. I did a save-as jpg file which reduced the size and then renamed the file to png. You have to open it with your png editor and reset the transparent parts.

The file could not be opened with the viewer in the phone, but it worked in the phone within S2U2.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Onrust:
Hello SVI,

Thanks for your great job on Angel 2. I read all the good stuff about Hornet and Angel (all the dozens and dozens of pages) and decided to go for it. Pretty new to flashing ROM's, but I must say that it's worth the "risk" (having newby nerves of bricking my device).

So, I hope you will continue your good work, and even more: I hope you found a job already! As soon as I found one (thank you financial crisis), I will make a donation. After all, I planned on replacing my MDA but now, thanks to Angel 2, decided to keep it at least one more year.

One question, although it might be the wrong subforum: How would one show any non-m2dc/Touchflo information on the today screen (like batterystatus, or a link to lock my device)?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] wallygator4life:
M2DC Tabs - MyFavesWidget

I just flashed to this rom (v2) and so far everything's fast and stable. Nice work.

I had a question about the MyFaves widget. Is this functional, does it work?I opened M2DC Tabs settings and checked the box for MyFavesWidget then hit Apply. The phone goes back to main sreen and tries to Launch TouchFlo but fails and says Tap Here to Launch TouchFlo. Every time I tap again it tries to Launch TouchFlo but doesn't and goes back to say Tap here to Launch... To fix this, i have to go back to M2DC and uncheck the MyFavesWidget and then TouchFlo launches fine.

If there is a way to make the MyFaves tab work, that would be awesome....instead of changing my MyFaves on tmobile.com.

After a search, I found this answer: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=3199918

Can anyone answer why there's an option for MyFavesWidget even though Manilla doesn't support it?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] RoryB:
The version of M2D that we run on our phones is from the work of herg62123 and others. It is from a phone that has M2D in it. I believe the My Faves works in it, but not in our phones.

Here is a page from HTC regarding T-Mobile's MyFaves http://www.htc.com/www/press.aspx?id=21746
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] pesok:
any idea on the eta of version 3? i am about ready to switch to angel but if u going to release new version soon id rather wait:) did i read this right u have 28 free of memory with manilla? wow thats amazing, most i ever get on other roms is 22, keep up great work and hope to flash to v3 soon:)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] docnas:
in My on experiance I get a little over 27 MB memory free after a restart which is was more than I every get on ny other M2d rom. but my one problem is my disappearing phone memory. after flashing and LOts of use little by little I nice my phone memory decreasing even though I havent installed anything or copeyed anything at the time. anyone have anything idea whts the cause N now to get something of it back as now im down to 12 MB phone memory with only Rsshub N a few other small programs installed.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] RoryB:
@docnas do you mean storage memory or program memory?

I have not seen a loss of storage memory, but do see some program memory creep. I run hibernate every now and then to keep program memory up.

I occasionally reset the phone for other reasons than memory, but this does give a fresh start.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] madan26:
I have flashed my wizard with "S.V.I-923[02] ANGEL: UC-Capable" is working fine. Great Job. Just missing keyboard with big pads. For which I need to get out my stylus. Otherwise it can be used without stylus. This is with UC but no user programs with the ROM. I will appriciate if you can suggest the best suitable programs can be used with this ROM.

Thanks a lot for the great job and waiting for more updates. Maybe with wm6.5....
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] RoryB:
This is a tough one. Everyone has their own choices.

I use the following on my phone. Some are built in and others I have installed:

word, excel

don't have one note on PC so have not used it on phone

all PIM features

notepad

onecalc

microsoft reader - especially for the dictionary and foreign laguage translation

Wolf's Translator - recently found and trying out

Total Commander - lets you edit small reg, xml & txt files

latest google maps

UCWEB6 - it seems to work the best for me

transcriber - I write better than I type or tap-type

S2U2 - nice screen lock to avoid pocket calls

M2DC - to customize M2D, I don't use very many tabs. Only home, email, weather, settings, launcher and now started using action tab (I call it Quick Start). It lets me have another launcher tab for ciclebt, accessing VC control panel, starting new email, appointments or tasks, and a shortcut to an excel file that is my timesheet.

Citrix Client - to access company data

MS Voice Command - only while driving otherwise it is off to have more RAM

CicleBT - to cycle bluetooth on and off

Adobe PDF 2.5 diamond version

Manila DevTools to cycle off M2D for more RAM to get better performance while using some programs
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Myrddin Wyllt:
Someone else addressed program memory, so I'll tackle storage memory. Download ClearTemp and use it to dump a lot of crap that Windows (yes, even Windows Mobile) collects over time. You need to just run this from time to time, or else your phone will start slowly choking itself to death on temp files and cached junk.

Also consider using UPX4PPC to compress your installed apps and dlls. You can't compress stuff in the \Windows folder, but pretty much anything else is fair game.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Myrddin Wyllt:
For a keyboard, you should try this app: http://www.pocketcm.com/keyboard2.php

For other programs, I really like the way things are broken down at PocketPCFreeware. You can sort everything by rating or number of downloads. Very handy if you've no idea what you want to use your PPC for, yet.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] docnas:
thank youtube myrddin cleaR temp was exactly wht I needed somehow even enough I only use opera mini for browsing I hard over 26 MB of files in the cache. with a click of a button my phone is back to Its fast and lots of storage memory state thanks again
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] S.V.I:
sorry, I have been too busy to cook...

WOW I missed a lot.

Keyboard is in my signature. I optimised it for our wizards with graphics that take less ram and storage space. its the keyboard I use.

memory issue has to deal with the mail and application(s) running in the background like weather syncing album searcher and so on. it mostly has to do with mail and activesync. (both MS programs)

I have version 3 running on mine right now. it is not finished yet. discovered some things about pixel composition of gfx files that affects even more space and processing speed. (its amazing what a pixel can do!)

GFX is the very thing that keeps my rom speedy with all the programs installed believe it or not. if I made a seriously graphics intensive manila skin it would be a lot slower.

so far I have optimized the new version of manila and the skin, as well as a new skin for the stock dialer (loads instant)

I plan to remove FOOTPRINTS TAB. it is useless in the wizards due to the lack of GPS. that will take some time.

I have also removed the backgrounds out of the .TSK to save some space. now it just does the flat bars and color scheme and the background does not change. it weighs very little since the only contens are registry settings.

this manila is a little bit bigger than the last one and apparently when I switched from hornet to angel I lost some important files and reg's to make the settings tab work. the whole tab is pretty much useless. (so profiles do not work)

unfortunately these days I am so busy trying to get my life in order (from unemployment, medicare, taxes, citizenship, moving, therapy) that I have no time for cooking... or jumping to a higher build.. especialy to winmo6.5. So I am sorry that I have not released V3 yet. I will when I get a chance. I may not tackle all of the above problems, but in a few days or so I will upload what I have so far. Tomorrow I will have internet at my family's new home.. so maybe by monday I will release A3.

Untill then, may the universe be with us all. :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] RoryB:
Even smaller sounds great.

I have read in the help.html file that it should let you use google maps if it cannot connect to a GPS, but I have not gtten it to work. So I too have unchecked it in M2DC.

I ran UPX and greatly reduced the file size and it has not had an effect on program speed or RAM space taken.

I have the settings tab working. See this http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3306655&postcount=6011

Let me know if you cannot get the files.

Also, I'll be glad to beta or alpha test your next version.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Uracil:
All of this work to keep your ROMs lean and mean is what makes them excellent.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] XAH:
S.V.I , your keyboard in signature doesn't have russian. And could you add "Advance config" into your great ROM?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] S.V.I:
YES IT DOES!!! :)

I use it all the time to write my sister!

you need to find the language options in the options (the little arrow next to the keyboard symbol on the bottom bar)

you have the option to select the input type,

then you see another button [options...]

after you tap that you have the choice to select language and t9 settings.

It is unfortunate that there is no direct button on the keyboard it self, and you have to jump through hoops to change the language.

I deal with it simple: I leave the keyboard in Russian, and use the hardware keyboard for English.

there is also an older version of the keyboard from HTC Touch; on 4pda.ru (which is where I got the original 5mb cab that I shrank down to 1.5 because it was just too big and too slow. You can try that one if you need quicker access to change language.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] XAH:
I did it, but not successful. There are no quick change for language - that is really annoying. Russian community wants replacement for standard keyboard. http://forum.xda-developers.info/showthread.php?p=10657&posted=1#post10657
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] RoryB:
I do not use the keyboard program, but if you use ceregeditor and save a current image and then change your settings and do a compare, maybe you can create two reg setting files to change registry settings to switch back and forth between english and russian.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] XAH:
I tried keyboards from http://3ppc.net/forum/showthread.php?t=11960 , but nothing happened. I think something wrong with digital signature.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] S.V.I:
Like I said, I use that keyboard all the time. and it is the same keyboard in my sig. so check the settings for input in the personal settings.

I got the original keyboard from 4PDA.ru (you can only log in in russian) and since getting that cab I just optimized it by getting rid of all the other languages, cleaned up the reg, and downgraded the graphics so that they would take up less space.

so if the russian comunity wants the keyboard they have two options:

1: get it from the russians like I did, or

2: figure out how to make it convenient to switch this one. it works for me within 30 sec.

I would list the complete directions on switching the languages, but I just dropped my phone in the snow a couple of minutes ago and it is currently drying.:eek:

What rom are you using? signatures should not be a problem with mine.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] XAH:
I use your ROM with SP1.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] acuarius23:
Cingular 8125 Manila 6.1 dont activate the WLan(wireless)

Hi all. Can someone help me? I have installed the new rom of S.V.I (Manila 6.1). but the only problem that i have is: When i go to com manager for activate the WLan (Wireless), its dont activate, and i dont understand why, because all the system is working great and is very beautiful.

Please can someone help me to resolve this problem???

Thank you !!!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] acuarius23:
I have installed this great rom, but the only problem that i have is: when i go to com manager for activate the WLan (wireless) is dont activate. Please can you help me to resolve this problem??? Because i like very much this system and i wont to take him. Thank you.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] RoryB:
I have found that sometimes it takes a few tries to get WiFi to start.

Sometimes a soft reset and then a few tries.

What I have noticed is that after that first time of taking a few tries, it works fine for many times later. Then all of a sudden it acts up again. I have not figured out the cause.

BTW, I do not use WiFi very much since I have not traveled much lately.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] lnthanh:
Direct link here

http://data.phimso.com/softzone/wm/wizard/923-ANGEL-2.7z
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] S.V.I:
I know that the new QM (quickmenu) does not recognize wifi unless it is turned on my the commanager.

once you activate wifi for the first time using the standard commanager (via the hardware button) it should work.

but please note that you will most likely have to tap the button twice.

as far as the keyboard thing that you are talking about, i am not sure what you mean. I will folow the link once they replace the fiberoptic line in my neighborhood somewhere and I get connected on line once again.

sorry I have not cooked for a while. no time. :(
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] nqnguyen2:
sup s.v.i, no need to apologize man. you're doing a great job.

as for those out there, do you notice a big difference between angel vs hornet? i'm stuck on hornet for the moment and i'm just curious.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] RoryB:
I have been following SVI through several of his ROMs. I feel each one has improved on the previous.

I like the graphics and interface of the M2D versions better even though I do not use many of the tabs.

SVI said he is working on an Angel 3 but unless it is coming very soon I suggest you switch over to start getting a feel for what you like or don't in M2D.

Here is what I am running.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] nqnguyen2:
cool, i'll definitely have to try it out considering i'm so happy with hornet. another question, would you say it runs any faster/smoother?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] RoryB:
I have gone through each along the way from Hornet 4 to beta M2D to Angel so I cannot remember, but I think it is faster and smoother.

RAM ranges from 16 to 18 after a while of using since latest reset.

It goes to 24 to 25 right after a reset.

I use ManilaDevTools to stop M2D to get more RAM to run IE, etc.

Also, I only use Voice Command when driving so I have that RAM the rest of the time.

Currently trying to learn .NET to program a toggle to start VoiceCmd and bluetooth, and then turn both off when I am done driving.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] tayyeb:
TNT Vs SIV

If want to change from TNT to SIV angel 2 what should be done? should i downgrade to tmobile 2.26 first?

Which one is better, TNT or SIV?

Does SIV has touch flo?

where can i find screen shots of SIV angel 2?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] samxein:
You don't have to downgrade but it is recommended to do so. It's up to you.

Angel v2 has touch flo, manilla 2d & a bunch of other stuffs that you can see at the first page of the thread.

For my personal taste SVI's Roms are way better than TNT's. But this is something that you must find out yourself.

BTW it is S.V.I not SIV.-
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] XAH:
S.V.I Angel is great leap in development of ROMs :)

In TNT was nice and small utility for WiFi scan. Who knows where to get it?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] samxein:
PeekPocket

We are off topic but I think you mean PeekPocket. Here it is.-
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] tayyeb:
Ipl/ spl 3.08

Can i use IPL/ SPL 3.08 with this ROM?:confused:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] tayyeb:
Thanks a lot.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] samxein:
Yes you can. I am using it right now:D .-
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] S.V.I:
ANGEL 3 Uploaded screens too

So I finished Angel 3:

Updated manila. optimized it and put all the gfx into a CAB file that installs during customizations. sorry that it takes so long, but it is the file count that does it.

Changed all of the file atributes to hidden, and took off the read only.

You could try to add weather cities in the xml

as you can see by the screenshot, I moved the call history\voicemail\calendar buttons 10pxl down and left; to make more room for the clock. I also moved the tab widget (the botom tab switcher) 10 pixels down, and enabled it to work in landscape. Weather also works in landscape.

I made QM to have smaller "buttons" it is finger friendly enough.

Updated a few other things.

Will update more when I can. Please test. I need a new list of things to fix. changing over the manila made me forget everything else I had to do. that was too much work.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] tayyeb:
A2 Vs A3

Hello SVI,

I just installed A2 yesterday and I love it but there are two problems,

1. Music tab doesn't work.

2. The battery indicator bar (line) keeps going up and down.

Have these issues been addressed in the A3 version?

Thanks and regards
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] S.V.I:
music tab will not work without audio manager. that has been discussed. I disabled it because of lack of space, and it takes 2mb of ram while running in the background. You can enable it using M2DC. also the audio manager is bundled with A3.

The "Battery Indicator Line" is actualy a RAM indicator. It is put there for you to know when memory gets criticaly low; and lets you know to kill programs or reboot.

Google maps has been updated. there is a download link in PIE Favorites (see screenshot). because it gets updated pretty regularly it is not cooked into the rom.

I recomend updating to A3 if only for the new reworked manila. among other things it has been optimized further. should also be a little bit faster and smoother.

enjoy.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] tayyeb:
I am currently downloading A3. sorry i didnt know that the bar is RAM indicator. mine is always red :(

I forgot to ask one more thing and that is pictures can't be opened by the file explorer?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] mick.j:
Would you let us know the free memory available with version 3?

Thanks.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] samxein:
At first boot around 25-26mb. When I started installing programs (a lot of them are starting at the device boot) around 24-25mb. After some hours of usage it drops at 18mb. This depends at the programs that you are using.

I have flashed a lot of Roms but always S.V.I's have the most free memory.

S.V.I you have done great work with the Windows folder. At every other Rom of other cookers it took me about 15sec to get access to the Windows folder. At your Rom it took me about 3sec :eek: .-