yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] jmckeejr:
I dont wanna waste your time with my start menu issues. I think it may be possible that the first Fuze I had was defective, which is why I'm on my second one in a week. But I wish I would have looked at this one before I flashed a new ROM. I only had it home for 15 minutes before flashing, and did not think to look at it. Although it would be nice if I still had the first one so I could find what had caused the huge start menu. I mean it was huge :eek: At first I thought it was too big, but then got used to it. Oh well, end of discussion.

One thing I would like to know, is anyone else able to select multiple messages in email or SMS by a long hold and swipe? I could do it on the previous ROM, and my Tilt, but its not workin now. Is this in a setting?

Seems like the only real problem I have is bluetooth, but this is not ROM related as it was the same on the stock ROM, and the first Fuze I got(main reason for returning it). I can connect, but when I hold the phone more than 3-5 feet away it cuts out. I see the bitpool is set to low by default in this ROM and tried changing all the values with no difference.

One last thing here. Would you consider making a heavier version of an upcoming ROM? With more basic apps like DotFred Regedit\Taskmanager, and possibly Sprite Backup for those who want to flash once and keep the same ROM? I know everyone has their own preference in apps, but this is XDA, and I think some sort of registry editor should come standard in cooked ROMs.

This ROM has been great, and cant wait to see what you come up with next.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] shimbob:
It already does come with a registry editor, Total Commander
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
Multiselect is disabled by default in 20xxx and newer ROMs because Microsoft began implementing gestures (like TouchFLO) into the OS. My ROMs disable the gestures by default, so they should work fine.

The Bluetooth chip used in the Fuze seems to be picky over what devices it works well with. For example: If I connect my Jabra BT250 headset to it, I can't go more than 5 feet from my phone. My MGS4 headset can go 10-15 feet, and my LG A2DP headphones can go 35+ feet through walls without dropping signal.

Possibly on the Task Manager. Total Commander is already in the Standard ROMs, and that is a registry editor.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] jmckeejr:
Is there a registry change one could make to enable the multiselect mode then?

[/QUOTE]Possibly on the Task Manager. Total Commander is already in the Standard ROMs, and that is a registry editor.[/QUOTE]

Lookin at total commander now and it does "look" at the registry, but from what I can tell it only tells me the size of each value. And not the actual value-ie: under the key HKCU\Software\A_C\S2U2\

value for Wallpaper says 98bytes, when it should say "\my documents\my pictures\". Unless I am missing something it seems like this would only be useful for deleting said value but how would you modify it?

DotFredTaskmanager includes a registry editor with import\export, taskmanager, etc. Very useful and only about220kb. Not a big deal, just a suggestion. This ROM rocks!!:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kennyb123:
Total Commander is a full-blown registry editor. Just double click on any value, and your options to edit the values pop up. Pretty darned cut and dry. (Stylus use recommended)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] jmckeejr:
Thanks. Didnt think to double tap. DotFred shows you the values without the extra step. Does TotalCmnder also import, export, and search just the registry? Havent used it much, as I use Resco for the skins.

Nevermind, found the search, and I guess maby you would copy the entry like a file?

Oh well. I got DotFred on my storage card anyway ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] prisoner881:
Perhaps I'm doing something wrong, but I have an Aliph Jawbone II I've tried using with NATF 4.2 and 4.4. Signal is great, similar to your LG. However, no matter what I try, I can't get Voice Command to recognize a headset "click" as a command to start listening for a voice command. Further, even when I hit PTT (which is mapped to VC), VC doesn't seem to listen to the headset. It insists on listening only to the mic on the phone. Once the call is established, the headset works fine, but the lack of VC is a distinct annoyance. I feel fairly certain this combo can work, but I'll be darned if I can figure it out.

Have you had any success getting this to work? Is there something I'm doing wrong?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] clavace:
Not being able to use Bluetooth earset with MS Voice Command is a long time known problem with MSVC and not with any ROM including the stock AT&T one.

I also have a Jawbone II (great for noise) that connects to Fuze calls by “Hands Free” and like you, I cannot use MSVC with earset.

My Jabra BT8010 is a stereo earset that can be used for hands free and Internet music which connects by both “Hands Free” and “Wireless Stereo” and I believe because of the “Wireless Stereo” connection this earset works well (good accuracy) with MSVC but the earset button does not start MSVC (it starts Music) so you still need to push usual button on the Fuze. You can use button on earset to end call as usual.

Does anyone know how to map button on earset like you can do with many of the phone buttons?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyg2k:
I don't have a answer to your question but I can tell you both that I have the original bluetooth Jawbone and it connects perfectly. I'm able to press the button on the Jawbone to initiate VC, say the name, end the call, all while the phone is in my pocket or even the other room.

And as far as I can tell, it only connects using the Headset profile. That's the only thing available on the Partnership Settings screen of the Fuze.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] wolfnumba1:
hey natf,

any eta on 4.5? i know you had phone troubles cant wait for the release not doing anything until i get that flashed on there, keep up the good work
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mrcpu:
To everybody that helped:

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Thanks for the info and the cab. Flashed my fuze to the .19 radio version, and the first time I rebooted before I got the cab installed, it ate up 10% of the battery in just a few minutes, and the back got fairly warm. finished the install of the cab, soft-reset, and it's all perfect now.

Radio-wise, I can't tell the difference, but I'll assume it's better until I hear otherwise. But Rom wise, this ROM is great. I'd say *AWESOME*, but it seems so cliche... :)

Only actual bug I can find is oggsync only will open the window after a soft-reset. Once I sync, (which works fine) and close the window, clicking the icon again just sits there. It used to work under the stock AT&T rom just fine, used it a couple times a day. It's not running in tasks, but it just won't open again. Soft reset, and boom, opens right up.

Thanks NATF for your hard work.

Back to lurking and learning.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] MrPhoenix:
Quick question(s) (and I apologize if this has been answered already):

If I wanted to change the background and/or theme to V 4.4, how would I go about doing that? Or are there any that are even available that would be compatible with your ROM?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] fishzine:
If I read this correctly this will be important for flashing to v4.5. Since is sounds like it will be based on the most recent AT&T rom that included the new radio, then sounds like 4.5 will include the rilphone.dll for the newer AT&T radio. Sounds like I need to get off my but and flash the radio so I am ready for 4.5 :P
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
You read it correctly.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] wolfnumba1:
hey NATF which radio version are you referring to? Which is the newest radio for the AT&T test rom that you based 4.5 off of?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] corneliusm:
He means version 1.12.25.19 - the same radio from the leaked AT&T rom, since the rilphone.dll in 4.5 will correspond to that radio.

Honestly, I don't see what the big deal is. The original stock radio on the Fuze was absolutely terrible. I used to have to go outside my house sometimes to make a phone call. This radio is noticeably improved, IMO. And GPS lock is much, much faster.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] wolfnumba1:
thank you, did he say when 4.5 would be released? lol too many pages to read through
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] corneliusm:
IIRC, NATF mentioned that the Fuze standard rom was complete, and he was working on the TouchPro and Lite versions at the moment.

You're right though... a lot of pages to scroll through, and this site is very slow for me at the moment.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] wolfnumba1:
same here, you said he was on IRC? what IRC channel is he on?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] slavany:
Has someone tried 1.02.25.19 radio with 4.3S ROM on Fuze? I have not flashed 4.4 since 4.3 works well for me. I'm wandering if there is any improvement over the stock AT&T radio (1.02.25.32) as far as batery life, GPS lock, etc., especially in NYC?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] corneliusm:
IIRC = if i recall correctly

Sorry for the confusion.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] corneliusm:
Don't you mean the 1.12.25.19 radio?

Yes, I've tried this using NATF's 4.2 rom (didn't upgrade since then). GPS lock is significantly faster, and reception is reported to be better in many areas (here in Orlando, it's exceptionally better). I haven't noticed any negative impact towards battery life, but ymmv.

Try it out yourself. You can always reflash back if you don't like it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Lostwarriorram:
I second that ^^^^. Dont forget to patch rilphone.dll with Radio. It does miracles.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] slavany:
Yes, I meant 1.12.25.19. Thanks I'll try it this weekend.

What I read from other posts it's not necessary to hard-reset after flashing new radio. But Wiki says that same rules apply as for flashing ROMs. I'm just a little confused since I don't want to hard-reset everytime I try new radio.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Ken98045:
AT & T Test ROM/Music Player

I've been running the AT&T leaked test ROM for a couple of weeks while waiting for 4.5. Overall it is better than the original, but there is one thing that is much worse. The music app from the TF3D is very, very slow to come up. It takes something like a minute for the last played selection to appear and for the buttons to appear. This definitely didn't happen with 4.4. This may be me (I have something like 10gb in audio book files on there, in only 10 albums). However, I'd like to encourage NATF to pay attention to this. It may be that HTC has made some bad changes here and that he would be better off going with the original player (whatever it is called).

BTW, the main reason I tried the test ROM was that the SlingPlayer product refused to function at all in 4.4 if WiFi was turned on. I did some over the air packet sniffing to see if I could see what the problem was, but there were 0 packets broadcast by the Fuze. The AT&T test ROM did work fine with SlingPlayer and WiFi.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] jtsurfs:
Maybe the issue you are describing with the Music Player has to do with the Memory Chip you are using. What brand is your MicroSD? There was an issue with earlier versions which was later determined to be with certain brand MicroSD cards. (if I remember correctly)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] prisoner881:
I haven't messed with the Partnership settings. I've just paired the headset and tried it that way.

If I put the phone in headset mode, will the phone itself ring/buzz or will I only hear rings in the headset?

Also, it would be nice if we could hear ringtones in the headset as well, although I've never found any Bluetooth phone/headset combo that could do that.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] corneliusm:
You don't need to do a hard reset. At least I never did.

Soft reset should be fine.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
Both my Jabra BT250v and MGS4 headset play the ringtone. The LG headphones just beep in my ear.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] prisoner881:
NATF, are there any registry or other programmatic settings that govern how the phone interacts with Bluetooth headsets? Anything worth tweaking or experimenting with?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mowrer98:
Unable to change font settings in IE

I see a lot of people are having this problem, but I havn't see solutions. Help! This small font is really annoying. Please Help!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] TheWebMachine:
With mono (headset or hands-free profiles) bluetooth headsets, you will only hear beeping on the headset and the device should ring/vib. However, if you have VC incoming call announcements to bluetooth on, you will hear the ringtone through the headset (device will still vib, if applicable) along with the announcement, as the device can only route audio to one place at a time. This scenario has been the case with every mono headset I've encountered.

If you have a BT device that supports the wireless stereo profile (like my BT620S stereo headphones), then you would hear the ring (and all other sounds) through the headset regardless of VC settings, so long as the wireless stereo profile is active.

And for the person who mentioned the VC BT routing issues of WM5 and 6.0, we've LONG since moved past that! :p
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tupbern:
I have the Jabra BT8010 so hopefully I can help. Mine DOES start MSVC when pushing the earset button (and music control). I can also replicate your 'problem'. In order to use MSVC push the headset/music button (on the side of the earpiece with the on/off and menu buttons)till you hear 1 beep (headset)(2beeps=music). Then push the earset button and MSVC will make its little sound and speak your command. I've had the 8010 as long as my Fuze (4 months) and the combination works perfectly with no mapping or further configuration. Hope this helps!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
v4.5 reverts to the old IE. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Lostwarriorram:
Should I wait for 4.5 tonight?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] AskTheAdmiN:
I have been going through flash withdrawal - cant wait for 4.5 Natf! Thanks again for all your hard work. I have been messing around with your latest kitchen and have a new found respect for the cookers around here!

ATT Fuze NATF 4.4

http://www.askTheAdmin.com
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
I hope to get the AT&T versions uploaded tonight. The HTC versions are still a day or two out.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] clavace:
It worked...THANKS!:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] clavace:
Sweet!:D

I assume v4.5 will have the rilphone.dll file that matches Radio 1.12.25.19. Is this correct or will I need to modify rilphone.dll once I update to HTC Fuze v4.5S?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] jtsurfs:
NATF already said the v4.5 AT&T version would have the rilphone.dll for 1.12.25.19.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Ken98045:
Not unless my card magically changed characteristics between 4.4 and the test rom. I suppose the card reader driver could have changed in the test ROM, but this seems doubtful. It has always worked fine before with pretty much the same number of files.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] nzilberberg:
3G performance with 4.4

Frankly, it was useless. Every net app I tried moved at a snails pace. From windows live (hotmail), slingplayer, Opera, google maps, everything, connecting took forever and throughput was surprisingly slow. As in the google.com home page taking 5 minutes to load...THATs slow!

Reverting back to the default ATT rom gets me back to snappy 3g performance.

Thoughts?

(this is not a flame, we all know NATF does excellent work, but I can't believe I am the only one with this issue, but after reading nearly 50 pages of this thread no one has mentioned anything)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
I do think you are the only one. I use 4.4S and I get great speed.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] jtsurfs:
Well for starters you do not mention what radio you are using, perhaps that is part of your problem? The ROM will not make your internet or data connection faster. The ROM WILL make your device work faster with the apps on it. Understanding the difference between memory throughput and bandwidth would help. You are trying to compare apples to oranges by complaining that this ROM didn't help your data connection.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] nzilberberg:
@jtsurfs

um...no...I am using the same radio with both roms. so I AM in fact comparing apples to apples.

I have not changed from the stock radio. When I install 4.4 my 3G performance goes to hell...when I switch back to stock ATT rom all is well...I can't believe I had to type that a second time...sigh

and I never said I was hoping switching to 4.4 would improve my data connection. I merely stated that a side effect of installing 4.4 was that my data connection was effectively murdered. Please don't put words in my mouth as it only confuses and sidetracks the issue at hand...yay! red herrings!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Ovrclck:
NM...I figured it out. :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] wildace408:
Here is a speed test i did with NATF's 4.4 rom. I get really good connection speed. It does depend greatly on your signal strenght as well. What radio were you using? I know 4.4 has the rilphone.dll for the new AT&T radio in it already. Not sure if using a different radio than the .dll would make a difference. If you dont want to change radios you could try looking for the rilphone.dll that matches your radio and give that a try.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
v4.5 AT&T Rapidshare links are up! Direct links will be up in the morning.

Since these ROMs are complete tear downs, it's possible I may have removed some things that I shouldn't have. If you run into this, please let me know, and I will address it in the next release.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] wildace408:
Thank you NATF! Downloading now and will stay up late to flash and configure my phone. CANT WAIT!

@NATF: Not sure if it is right or not since you said that only the AT&T versions are up but it shows that the ones up are both standard versions (AT&T and Touch) with no AT&T lite. I use the standard but just thought you should know.

EDIT: Wow. Getting 200+kb/sec from free rapidshare. Guess nobody else expecting 4.5 this late.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NFRCER:
Thank you so much NATF!!. I am gonna give it a try for a little while.

I have fallen in love with WM 6.5 and it feels weird returning to 6.1.

BTW the Touch Pro link leads to the Fuze Lite :P
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hobolooter:
haha sweet, didn't expect when i clicked in here another update was up :)

Thanks man, I'll be sure to update when I get a chance. 4.3 is giving me a few hiccups.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mrgino:
great!!! Thanks NATF, downloading now.

I noticed in earlier posts you were referring to using the 1.12.25.19 radio. Is there a recommended radio upgrade from the original stock radio that is native to the fuze? i'm not certain if i feel the need to security unlock my fuze just yet.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] thehyecircus:
What a total surprise!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Jdilla:
By using the search function, you would see back a few pages that HHumbert and myself stated that the 1.12.25.19 radio is working like a charm for us in the bay area. And big thanks to NATF for including the .dll for it already. I havent yet seen the need to security unlock yet.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] wildace408:
Thank you NATF for another great rom. The speed on 4.5 is great. One thing that I did notice that was missing was mp3trimmer. Other than that I am loving this rom. Its getting late so I will test it more tomorrow.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Ken98045:
4.5 Running Great

So far so good!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] baeshin81:
waiting for the new att version...

thank you...i tried some other roms and i found that this rom has been the most stable for me considering work...

i had one request...stock quotes in manila...or a cab file for it....all the other cabs i've searched in the forum has been either majorly delayed or inaccurate...or it creates major delays in sliding left and right on the manila sections...

THANKS AGAIN !!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] JoeTheFro:
After playing with a very stable 6.5 from Da_G... its tough to jump back to 6.1.... Hopefully the RTM will be leaked soon so we can get that up and running NATF style!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] lffoong:
Just for the clarity, would the Touch Pro version (based on the 5.07 Asia officialROM) also hv the rilphone.dll for 1.12.25.19. ? :confused:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] nextascy:
I have to agree with you. I love NATF's rom, but I have fallen for 6.5 as well. It is stable enough to use on a daily basis, and way way faster than any 6.1 kitchen, I know, even faster than NATF's kitchen. Not that's it's NAFT fault, 6.1 is a POS. It's like comparing Vista to Windows 7.

I wish I can get best of both world, NATF's rom on 6.5 <hint hint> HAHA
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] TheWebMachine:
I, too, have been running Da_G's 6.5...but only to try it out and bug hunt while waiting for v4.5 (I couldn't get a couple of issues with v4.4 fixed properly and decided to take a vaca myself. lol) I am posting my findings in the next day or so. I am going to remain awake and flash 4.5 now. I will have you know, you should be very careful with pocket outlook on 6.5. Overnight, my email encountered an SSL error with gmail, when I woke up, my phone acted ok...but later in the morning, poutlook completely corrupted my message stores and the phone would lock up if I even attempted to open poutlook. That was the last straw. While it is quick and very much stable for it's current "test" beta state, it does have a number of OLD issues surrounding it's NEW version of poutlook.

Sorry for rambling on about that for a bit...I just wanted to warn those curious about 6.5 who may need their device to be moderately productive in order for them to be productive. You're better off sticking with NATF's ROMs...because NATF has a natural knack for stability. (Most of the time... :p)

Also, I recall someone asking me about my radio reception with v1.12.25.19 here in Pittsburgh. (If I answered this already before, I'm sorry...too tired to check.) I have been using the new radio since it came available, along with the rilphone...and have been getting stellar reception and battery performance. Even my BT reception distance is better! They did a bang up job on this one. It's nice to see a device reach this level of stability at such a young age. :)

Time to flash, then maybe a nap before my 9:30am conference call, which I will likely partake in from the comfort of my bed. :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] yatrg:
NATF: You accidentally put the link to NATF_v4.5_Fuze__Lite_.rar on the "HTC Touch Pro v4.5 Standard" line in the first post.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mrgino:
I used the search function. I also used the Wiki, which led me to other posts that stated the 1.12.25.19 radio was from a different device and I would need to security unlock my Fuze. But I take it since your phone is not security unlocked, then the wiki is wrong?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ogrillion:
You must have misread, if you look in the radio thread you can see all the radios for a raphael phone.

ANY of those can go on your phone, and you do not have to security unlocked.

However if you want to use the radio listed under Diamond and Blackstone phones, you do need to security unlocked.

I flashed the .19 radio to my phone, honestly don't notice a huge difference from the stock radio. But I work in a hospital in PA, I work in a nuc. medicine department, and we are surrounded by lead, so I should be happy I get atleast 1-2 bars !
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mrgino:
Ok! I'll go back and read through it again. Thanks for the help!