yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
I wonder if it is a server side issue than....... I know everything is working fine for kareem so now we are trying to isolate why.

I've pored through all the registry settings available to pie and everything is set up right, but things aren't going right. Thats what make me think that the download is being forced by a server (i know there is a java script for it) i just tried to stay away from java as it can bog down rendering speeds.

We know we can get around i in some way we are just determined to find a simple one :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kareeem:
I think it very well could be. When ather made me this for my other ftp, it never happened. As soon as we get our host confirmed, we'll check it out.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] StarWolfX0:
Do you guys need any hosting space? I saw on the first post that you guys might need some.

I might be willing to lend some space out to you guys, if you need it!

Let me know, and I will have to some checking and setup an ftp that you guys can use! So far this project looks really cool.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Dr4g0n75:
im getting pretty much everything i tried in programs opening as text with pie..

i put "blah.com" in opera and it works just fine... just dosent look as pretty... lots of zooming...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] xhypnotik:
Cool program, I'll check it out. Although Microsoft should be launching a app store soon.http://www.wmexperts.com/microsoft-reportedly-launch-cloud-services-announce-windows-mobile-65

Hey if you need some help hosting PM ME.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mkalbouneh:
ASP

grabbed this from another website i am guessing this is so u can download a .doc file not open it as text

MOE
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
thanks, i've seen this around when i did some researching and i'll probably try it out tonight :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] newone757:
yea even from version 1 to now everything ive tried to open just opens up as text. I havent had not 1 thing work for me yet. using a touch pro on stock sprint rom
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
Themes seem to be downloading fine, it is the cab files from the programs and games section that are being a pain.... i'm trying to work out the problem right now though (so hopefully this will be resolved by tonight or tomorrow)

The main problem i am having now is that the database for the cabs and the site are on two different servers (and most scripts out there are written for local downloads)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
Update in post 3, poll added
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] showaco:
Once y'all get the downloads working right(most important right now), is it possible to add a description to download pages? So if you go to section, choose an app name, then when it goes to download page, have a description in part of the screenshot area? Or have a page with scrolling so you could scroll down for descriptions and/or links to author's web page for more info? Great work y'all are doing, I added links back to here in my themes threads.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kareeem:
Definitely will get there ;) If you check M2DC, there's a bit of what you're talking about.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
thats on the list of todo, right my first prority is fixing the text problem :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mkalbouneh:
pm sent

hopefully it works (inshallah)!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mkalbouneh:
submit button

"button.jpg"
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mkalbouneh:
it came out like this on IE

and it touch friendly!!

MOE
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kareeem:
Jazaks brother. Looks great in the attatchment and hopefully in the app as well :D ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
i tried th scripts with no avail, you can check the result in the games section (first button, the one that just says download)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kareeem:
Lol, i'm telling you, it must be the server!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mkalbouneh:
hmmmm, thats weird

thats why i used a 3rd party server with php script
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
ya i saw the 'third party' php link and i was like wow that was brilliant this should work..... and it didn't haha. I also did some back tracking to make sure that the problem wasn't with the ftp server, and it was. (v1 kareem's portal was opening the same way) someone is lending us space from there though so we don'thave admin access to the server.... once we move everything to one location we shouldn't have problms anymore.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
Text problem fixed, let me know if you find any broken links or ones that missed the update
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ogediah:
Great Work guys, looks like you added a couple apps recently also
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
UPDATE:

ALOT of Programs and games added.... i put up a todo list up.

i'm working on getting a search function.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] showaco:
Is it possible to have a alphabet index on one side where you could hit letter and jump to apps starting with that letter? Really enjoying this.:)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
hmmm.... its possible i dunno how easy or accurate it would be though....

i'll sniff around....
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
Server update:

Games Section now has "details" pages attached to each program

Several Games added
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ogediah:
Can you guys orginize this by resolution somehow? I have a vga device and obviously everything on here isn't vga compatable
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
i think someone requestes that before, i'll add it to the first post under todo. If nothing else it can be added on the info page. I only have a Qvga device so if you guys download something and find out it is compatable with vga please let me know so i can update
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
smartphone user please check post one.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mkalbouneh:
can u change the back to main menu to to just plain back, or maybe add it to the bottom of each page!! also add a back ground...

ill look for a nice one!

MOE
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mkalbouneh:
JAK background
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
yes, i can do tha later, for now is you long hold and select back it will tie you over :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] showaco:
I can't use "back to main menu" button from download info page. It doesn't do anything for me, but it does work in app lists.

You should post a link in Excalibur forum to get some smartphone help. Most smartphone users don't frequent this forum because very little here works for them.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
thanks for the heads up showaco, i'll post something over there..

and i'm going to replace the buttons with regulor back buttons so i'll fix the code then

ps thanks again for getting those images done for me, it made things alot easer so all i had to do was the codeing
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
i'll update the first post with more info when we get things up and running, but "Virtual Hosting Company" just generously donated web hosting and a domain to the project! everyone be sure to thank them when i post the link.

With this server we should be able to allow all of you to upload to the site yourselves! The process will be similar to here on xda. You will upload to a holding area where it will be scanned over and correctly placed.

During the switch we may also introduce a "white" version with a simpler text (probably ms sans serif)

We have alot going on but once the project website is up we plan to make it all as open based as possible!

The new site will be called winmoportal.com

all projects will have codename, example: v1 was kareems portal, v1.1 through1.4 were Jak Portal. You help us decide the next project name!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Who-m3:
Happy to oblige...

I'm glad to be able to offer my assistance to this project. I just hope that everyone else gets the same use of it as I do. It truly is a great interface to what will be a massive collection of Cabs. I wish you the best of luck, and I look forward to the coming updates, both on the Client as well as the Server side. And keep us up to date on the site changes, since we all know it's coming now...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
Speaking of the devil, this is the man of the hour himself ;)

Please be sure to thank, him he has provided all our new stuff and personally set it all up himself (the guy was so nice he not only provided our stuff for free he spent almost 4 hours personally setting up everything we needed by hand)

Thanks alot who-m3, you know you'll be hearing from us all the time on irc :D (in between writing all of our code of course)

btw, thanks for the typo fix ather!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vcdwelt:
Same Problem here...

Feature Request:

Add on detail page infos to the program (shareware, freeware)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Ather:
Support on IRC Added, check the first post for the Info :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Star-Lite:
starting to look good now.

but I havve a problem. Some of the cab files dont download completely,

for example the google navigator cab will only download the first 400-600 KB and then stop. a lot of the games have this problem as well, I guess it has to do with my relatively slow speed (UMTS, 128 kbit) and the size of the cabs. downloads from other sites work fine tho, it's really only jaks portal that has problems.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
sounds like something is timing out, i'll pm you when i get a chance to change some stuff. My number one priority right now is getting the new site going (i need to put something up on the new domain :D)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
Site is somewhat up (there is something there now atleast :) )

If you would take a look at the style and report back thumbs up or thumbs down that would be great.

www.winmoportal.com
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
Back to main menu button changed to just back for games details pages (i'll hit up the themes section shortly)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
themes section back buttons fixed
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Ather:
First post updated with new iRC Info,
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
We are getting Ready to switch servers shortly, hopefully this will improve performace! Hang with us :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
Everything was transfered, please report any problems you have.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ogediah:
everything is running much better than earllier today... i kept getting a weird busy message and have to refresh all the time. thanks alot guys!

PS thanks to who-m3 also :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
Working on the website, linked all the download links to a script which allows me to update every link at once (tell me if you have problems or would prefer it attached to the post) this link just allows us to update smoother and faster.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nightwolf21:
ey dude...great app...encountering a small problem while downloading certain games and apps...when i click on the download link...there is a text file that opens up instead of the download window...anybody else who had the same problem?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kareeem:
Can you tell us which CABs this pertains to?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
Found the problem :)

Some of the files exts were "CAB" instead of "cab"

and i had the server set to force a download of "cab" files. Problem fixed I'll update first Post.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kareeem:
New poll added by Joel. We'd like to see if this would really help guys out or no. We'll end up splitting it into sections according to device. So for a Kaiser ROM, it'd be Kaiser>kaisimg.nbh (we'll find a way to distinguish which ROM it is) so please vote!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] AndyCr15:
This is the first time I've seen this App, do you mind if I give some feedback?

- I've gone into programs and I press something hoping for an explanation of what it is, but instead it looks to download it...

- I went to Themes. Would I be correct in saying there are only 3 TF3D themes? There are loads out there, why only 3 in the list?!?!

- When I go to games, a nice big list, great. Are these hacked games, free games or do I have to pay for a license when I run them? Maybe this needs to be in a description? Freeware, demo etc?

I think the potential of this app is HUGE if you can get the database filled out, which I can imagine would be a very time consuming process. Right now, it's just not that useful to me :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Who-m3:
I'll be the first to tell you, these guys crave feedback. Provide them with enough information, they'll find a way to do what you want.

To my understanding, they're currently working out actual text to give a brief description of the download. I may have mis-understood, but I believe this is the case. Guys, can one of you confirm/deny this for me.

For the time being, I believe these will be freeware games only. There will not be ANY illegal/hacked games on the system. As a host, I cannot allow it (places my business in jeopardy). This was one of the questions I asked prior to offering the services of Virtual Hosting Company.

Very correct. The time that they've put into it so far is enormous. But they've got massive plans and nothing but time to work on it. I'd recommend you set this thread to watch, or bookmark and revisit their homepage at www.WinMoPortal.Com on a regular basis, to see the changes that come. It wont take long, I mean figure that a week ago, there wasn't a smartphone (non-touch) version out there.. Kinda rapid with the adjustments that can be made...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
Hi!

Very interesting project you got there! I'm working on Gecko, based on the same idea.

Are the applications here listed by their developers or do you add them here? If it's on a voluntary basis, it would be great to work together on the backend. We could use the same database and submission form so we would both get the same up-to-date software instead of fighting for developers. I started Gecko to unify the WM community and I don't want the developers to be divided between equally good solutions.

I have a lot left to say so feel free to contact me and we will talk. I'd also have two applications to submit.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
You pretty much hit the nail on the head. All applications will be freeware or shareware (so far i think they are all freeware)

As for the info pages for programs, thats in the workings, we just got a new layout that allows for more screen space.

We love to get feedback, negative or possitive. Feel free to tell us what you do or don't like, for example someone requested the font change (it took us a little while because we were in the middle of switching servers but i got it up :D

Thanks for the feedback,

Joel

PS we still need smartphone testers!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
check ur pm ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Ather:
New feature coming soon, a way to upload files now :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
Updated first post with upload info
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nightwolf21:
thanx for the fix dude...great app this one:)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
No Problem :)

UPDATES:

Fixed some bugs in the themes section (and fixed the font)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
Update:

Games section has been updated to new format
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ogediah:
the new layout looks good!

and i like the rom idea.... but at the same time desn't it raise the chance for error? Or even if not error but newbs bricking their phones?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Dr4g0n75:
changes coming along nicely fellas... i didnt mind the old font, but i have to admit, the newer one is easier to read...

personally i would like to see more in the m2d section... but i understand youre busy with getting everything functioning corectly before you load up on stock..

thanks, and keep up the good woork..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Star-Lite:
actually, a lot of the games and some apps are demo's/shareware. (bejeweled/zuma/google navigator).

It might be nice to put that on the description page as well (shareware/freeware/limited demo) etc.

On another note, big cab files seem to download nicely now, I tried to download the same ones that failed before and managed to get them all on the first try.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
It's a matter of free space on the device, which reminds me it might cause a big problem if I don't watch this in Gecko!

I came here to tell you to watch spelling mistakes! The simple design of the dev's page is great, but don't make the grammar nazis angry!

"regardless" was the main one, the rest are tiny and impertinent.

We still need to talk about .cab files. I'll send you another PM tonight (gotta leave in... 3 minutes ago)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] AddeBC:
Just a thought

I love this idea, but something that would be even more butiful would be to have a central datbase containing only fillocation info and comments - And combine this with bittorrent...

Damn that software would dominate!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Star-Lite:
that was my first idea as well, but I had about 25MB left on the device and 500+ on the sd card.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
Thanks for the feedback, if you have any themes in mind let me know.... like you suspected i just uploaded a couple to fill out the section a little (i always use m2d colorful)

Thanks for the heads up, kareem collected alot of the cabs... so i don't know exactly what they all are lol. I'll try and get a list from him and update the info pages.

thanks, i'll check out grammar when i get home.... i'll just say english class wasn't my favorite :D

I liked the idea of doing things like a torrent also... mainly i just have no idea how to do that lol .....and secondly i'm not sure about the limitations of the devices. The databases would all have to literally be different servers... instead of the clients themselves (i doubt you wouldn't want to seed from your pda)

As far as a central database... we basically have that, everything you download is on our servers.

The problem could have been that, but it may have also had to do with the old server. I forgot to message you when we switched over to check if that fixed it (my deepest apologies) but it sounds like it may have helped :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kareeem:
The closest we can come with torrenting (which i think kind of defeats the point of this) is packaging all of these programs into one and uploading that. It'll obviously have to be updated every now and then but if anybody has any other ideas, throw them at us :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
i think we may be able to create a store based on a "torrent" network if it came down to it. Have multiple servers which when you click a button for the app or search.... its looks through multiple databases (but maybe i'm just blowing smoke out my ass)

As kareem said through... this isn't really feasible at this point (we can handle everything on one server) We basically have one database, and only one database to update (keeps things simple for now.)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
Well... you can always use more than one mirror just in case a server goes down. The database should dynamically choose which server to pick to download it.

If server1.com/cabfile.cab is down then look for server2.com/cabfile.cab. This way the database would only have to store "/cabfile.cab" and a list of available server. This way it would take a huge load before all servers are down. With basic4ppc's latest HTTP library, you can stream files while executing an application. Maybe you could use that to download from multiple locations at a time?

All the suggestions I give (and keep for myself) are things I can't wait to add to Gecko. XD
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
Lol same for me

You couldn't do a true torrent on ppc because the limiting speed is not the "seed" but instead your own connection. (ex. Connecting to six different "seeders" would not speed up your download, it would only download ask fast as your network provider would allow

SO as N1c0_ds menetioned they would only be back-ups or other directories to search in
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
Todays updates posted
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
Minor Feb 4 morning updates
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] v5HMeca:
Do you need web help with it? I already see ways that the page loads can be significantly reduced.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
Any help we can get would be welcome, let me know when you get on and and we can talk about it. (i'm central standard time if that a problem than let me know and i'll give you my email.)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] lazyboy0172:
I can't run this program at all. upon trying to launch it i get an error from windows, URI error or something, and it allows me to ask for details or just quit.

i'm on a vogue with nfsfan's 6.1 rom.

i like the idea of the program though, it seems extremely useful and i keep wanting to try it
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
See if you can get the error message and post it up here and we will see what we can do.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
I briefly tried it and here aresome small suggestionsand commentaries:

-16kb is a great thing

-Don't use forceQVGA, if possible, as it doesn't look great even with the excellemt graphic design

-Thanks for listing Gecko! Feel free to submit JAK too!

-Graphics in the listing is a really bad idea. It takes a while to load and uses a lot of data. I'm not good with web languages so I can't say more.

-The icon is great, no soft edges messing with WkTask at last! Good practice!

-Search, description page (or repo-style super list)...

Lots of room for improvememt, but it's a great idea to use a web-based front end.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kareeem:
Program needs Net3.5 so if you don't have that already, that's why it wont launch ;)