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[FYT Android Head Units] gonzo99:
I have an Ekiy T7 and I'd say it is good for both your counts at the price.

However, bear in mind that all of these units are resellers of the FYT hardware - some provide better software front ends, or more support, or better updates - but the basic hardware is the same across them all, so check the specs in the general thread for what you think you need.

I have had a battery drain problem which I haven't resolved yet, but that seems related to the car I am running it on (Ford Focus Estate), rather than the actual unit doing something it shouldn't.

Other than that it was relatively plug and play and worked fine out of the box, and the seller has been fairly responsive (as far as you can expect from AE)

Bluetooth seems to work well - I've had AA running wirelessly, though one of these systems is not the best way if that's all you want. GPS seems to work better than my previous Android head unit.

I'd say don't expect much ongoing support with software from the seller or updates, but that is what this forum is for of course :)

I suspect Teyes and the likes are better for after sales support but you pay that cost up front, so your decision whether that is of benefit to you. (Teyes also comes with some loss of 'hackability' as I understand it)

The T7 is definitely an FYT 7862 unit as long as you don't buy the very cheapest ones with low specs - I have an 8GN/128GB unit and its plenty fast enough. I would say don't buy anything less than 4GB.

There is another seller selling the T900, which as far as I can tell is identical hardware but slightly different firmware, so you may want to compare prices.

I'd say don't buy it if you aren't willing to do some fiddling to get things as you want it, but other than that the hardware seems reliable.

I believe the Tesla style ones are still FYT, but there seem to be more issues with the mods etc on that because there are fewer out there so fewer people with experience working on them.
[FYT Android Head Units] i928:
Check whether the amplifier is off after stereo turn off.
[FYT Android Head Units] gonzo99:
Thanks for the suggestion but fairly sure my car doesn't have a separate Amp - I've checked all the obvious things too - it shuts down correctly and seems to draw 0 Amps, but overnight the battery drains regardless - yes doesn't if I unplug the radio, so something is going on -

I'll probably end up putting a switch in to isolate it and hopefully resolve the problem that way
[FYT Android Head Units] j0hn83:
It is?

I currently own 3 different FYT units.

Between them I have different versions of the SoC, 3 different DSP's, 3 power amps, different op amps, different ram sizes, different storage sizes, different storage types (emmc 5.1/ufs 3.1), different GPS modules, different Bluetooth modules, etc etc etc. More differences than I've listed.

All 3 have different motherboard platforms, the oldest comes with a very irritating hardware bug meaning the internal mic cannot be disabled.

My oldest unit is a 7862 1.8GHz 4gb/64gb. It sells for just under £125

My newest unit is a 7870 2.7GHz 12g /256gb. It sells for just under £500

There are cheaper SoC's also available.

Units come with and without spdif (coax or fibre).

The Ekiy units don't even have dual USB on the 6 pin port.

The hardware between units can differ considerably. It is in no way the same between them all.
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
I think the truth is more or less in the middle.

Despite the fact the hardware can differ between the several FYT units, it is mostly a fixed set of hardware components that are used, depending on availability, new hardware becoming available and price.

And if you look at the FYT (closed-source) drivers and APKs, it is a terribly long list of if-else if-else if-. Sometimes 20+ in a row to compensate for a slightly different platform (6023/6025/...../6315/6316/6318), slightly different DSP (and "standard" audio before that), slightly different AMP, slightly different radio chip, etcetera.

FYT APKs are 100% java or partly Kotlin. It means that the latest APKs still work on the oldest hardware from 2015/2016. Same for audio APKs: if they do not find a DSP, they simply use another if-else if to play music on the old-fashioned audio.

It also means they carry a terrible load of old **** inside.
[FYT Android Head Units] j0hn83:
The software caters for multiple different pieces of hardware/different components.

That's not the same as "the basic hardware is the same across them all".

Almost every head unit by every manufacturer (not just FYT) uses a fixed set of components (SoC, memory, storage, DSP, amp, radio, etc). The speed/capacity/generation/class/revision etc of those components matters a lot.
[FYT Android Head Units] marchnz:
I believe that is what Surfer said and that the code behind it to make it work is terrible.

These variations largely account for a seller in managing supply lines, use of near and use of and-of-life components, or different component binning (lower quality, not to 100% spec, lowest cost).

The effect of this is reducing cost, increasing margin and less about enabling sellers to appear to sell different "spec." which results in messy and suboptimal coding to support.
[FYT Android Head Units] marjanoos:
Worth to tell is that this applies to all devices in the market.
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
Yes, that's right, but there are more and more cheaper "Android Auto / Apple CarPlay" only units on the market, like the Lammto and Carpuride units, and a bit cheaper and not as good: the Podofo or a Seicane.

If I had to chose a new unit right now I would pick a Carpuride or Lammto, Carpuride for the BlueTooth, Lammto for the sound/audio, and switch to Android Auto. In the rentals I drive for my work on travels, I always use AA.

If the Chinese are not going to open up and switch to Android Automotive, I can just as well take a cheaper unit that only does Android Auto (or Apple CarPlay).

No way, I am going to pay 550~750 for a DuDuOs unit.
[FYT Android Head Units] marjanoos:
Hard to swallow pill, but true indeed. If you use AA/CP only.

DUDUOS has more than that obviously but they plan to deeply integrate with the cars which are those tablets installed in. We will see how this will come out.
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
About the integration: my current car is a Skoda Octavia 2015. The original unit was deeply integrated but only had a 5.3" screen, no AA/Carplay, and a non-updatable navigation system. But far more deeply integrated than any Chinese unit.

On a 2016+ Skoda Octavia I would have had an 8" deeply integrated unit and Android Auto. I simply didn't know at that time (end 2021) otherwise I had bought a slightly newer one and never had bought a Chinese unit.

If I would now buy another 5-year old car of any brand, it would have all of that (very deep integration, an 8" or larger screen, and AA) and I would only use my phone with AA on that deeply integrated unit.

And if my FYT would now break down? I would probably buy a Lammto and maybe reinstall the old integrated unit.
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
Thanks for your extensive post. It is good advice. Some remarks though.

If you have a 7862 or newer, you have 5GHz, but not all phones give a 5GHz hotspot. Also: older or cheaper units do not always support 5GHz.

If your phone is running hot, it is your phone, not the unit: whatever unit it is. There are many posts on the internet about this especially for Huawei and Oppo.

(and some lame joke: why do you think it is called a "hot"spot :D )

"Seems to". Well, that is not correct.

"You might run". You could very well be right, but apart from the phone getting hot, you don't know for sure. I have a Samsung S21 FE and before that a Morotola G6+. I literally always use it automatically on hotspot in the car for the last 5 years or so (if connected to bluetooth -> activate hotspot. With macrodroid on G6+, now with builtin Samsung bixby). The current Samsung and previous Motorola do "get warmer", but not hot. Again: this is a phone issue.

"it will connect with the last user". That is what all the full Chinese units do as well. My wife and I have the same "issue" (and I am lucky as I am the one mostly using the car). Even built-in integrated units in factory cars do this, (and believe me: I have used many rental cars that function like this.)

2.4GHz versus 5GHz: Please read the technical (Google) articles about this or search the web. Also 2.4GHz is by far fast enough! Do you have any idea how many data is acutally used by Android auto? Only the screen updates and gestures/tapping actions need to be transferred (bit simplified). The phone is doing all the work. That is exactly the reason that cheap units can do Android Auto/Apple Carplay as well: they are simply "terminals" for the phone.

You have to have a BT connection, but the older BT versions were not fast enough (so yes, that much data is transferred), so that is why you need either USB or WiFi. USB is more stable, but there should be no difference in lagging between 2.4GHz or 5GHz. If you experience lagging issues on 2.4GHz, there is again another issue.
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
What I forgot.

On the previous units like the sc9853i and PX5 units, the 2.4GHz WiFi interfered with the Bluetooth interface as they are in the same frequency area. That could cause terrible transmission speeds on WiFi. And of cause you need both BT and WiFi (or USB) for AA. I have no idea whether this is the same for those cheaper AA/Carplay units.

So yes: in such a case you can be fully correct and you do need 5GHz but this interference reason needs then to be mentioned.
[FYT Android Head Units] i928:
I have Pixel 4XL and POCO F2. Both get hot. I posted on the headunit reload software forum. It was very active because lots of people's android headunit did not support Android Auto, and $4.95 Headunit Reload is a good solution. There are lots of questions and sharing on the forum. No reply on phone get hot issues. I hoped to get a reply said it do not happen on my phone. It is just FYI on what might happen use wireless. It is not FYT or any headunit issues.

Most headunit does not support 5.0GHz, it is Android Auto Wireless dongle . These AA dongle supports 5.0 Ghz.

The information I find Lammto has USB-C power port(assumed it is 4-pin, instead 6-pin support data connection), does not mention second USB-C port for phone connection. That is why I use "seems to ". I just watched Lammto 9.26 review on youtub. Lammto 9.26 has USB-C (for power),AV-IN, SD slot and AUX port. It is pretty reasonable no USB port for phone connection. It is "Wireless Carplay & Android". Carpuride units has DC port and USB-C port.

Perhaps your phone's temperature and my phone's temperature is the same under laser gun measure. :) It is just our criteria for "warmer" and "hot" is different.

I run into lagging issues for google map sometime. other people in software forum have similar experience, otherwise they will not buy wifi AA dongle to improve connection speed.

One person shared his experience with 5.0 Ghz inference during rush hour and recommend me to stay at 2.4 Ghz. Does everyone run into this issues? Of course not.

Some Lammto user, unit broken within 1 year. some do not. It depends your environments, if you park car on garage at home and on multistorey car park. You will not run into heat issues. But if you have hot summer and your car park on the street. It is different stories.

This information is for people never use wireless AA. They can decide whether wireless AA is good option for them to upgrade.

You will not notice any difference on 2.4 Ghz for most apps except google map. I am not the one run into google map lagging sometime. Lagging is compared between wired AA and wireless AA on the same route. You will not notice lagging if you only use wireless AA.
[FYT Android Head Units] i928:
For wired USB AA, you do not need bluetooth connection. I do not setup bluetooth connection between my car and phone, as I always use wired connection.

For lagging, I compared wireless and wired AA on the same route. lagging was consistent around the same area. It is probably due to no traffic, I paid more attention to google maps.
[FYT Android Head Units] i928:
Google Android Auto help website.

For Android Auto on your car display (wireless)

A compatible Android phone with an active data plan and 5 GHz Wi-Fi support. Wireless projection is compatible with these Android versions:

Any phone with Android 11.0

A Google or Samsung phone with Android 10.0

A Samsung Galaxy S8, Galaxy S8+, or Note 8, with Android 9.0

perhaps Google is afraid of 2.4GHz user complain about its lagging and ask google to improve its performance on google map.
[FYT Android Head Units] NootNootMF:
I have a big review of the EKIY T7 here: https://xdaforums.com/t/buying-ekiy-off-aliexpress.4670544/post-89526012
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] YossiN:
Is there any app that enables this

FOSS is the best

thanks
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EllieCat:
You could try a live wallpaper if you want interchanging images.
[Magisk] arkaradet:
Is there any module available that can bypass captcha puzzles?

I would appreciate any guidance and assistance on how to solve this issue. If I have posted in the wrong place, I apologize to the admin.
[Magisk] Nergal di Cuthah:
I mean, if there is it would defeat the entire purpose of captcha. But maybe there is?

Edit: i stand corrected! I just looked up capcha on ms edge extensions and there are a bunch of solvers. I guess that method of turing test no longer is relevant . My apologies for behind the scenes laughing at the concept.

Edit2: those extensions do seem to be for specific sites or capcha methods.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 FE Questions & Answers] Fenyx420:
Delete
[Samsung Galaxy S20 FE Questions & Answers] parrots_:
Could be a motherboard issue, that kind of behavior doesn't seem like it's firmware to me. I doubt it'll fix it, but if you know your model number you can flash it in Odin Mode.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 FE Questions & Answers] Fenyx420:
So, I did the flashing and the issues still persist. Is it worth trying out a custom rom?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 FE Questions & Answers] parrots_:
If your bootloader is unlocked, its worth a shot. Otherwise, does seem like a motherboard issue.
[General Topics] Melomi:
It's been recently found out that within the code of the custom rom there's a trigger that complete wipes the data off of your phone if you tamper with your device's adb shell. Essentially having the custom rom is giving you malware with the ability of the team to simply meddle with your storage data

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1791627871519174697
[General Topics] Retrial:
yeah, I've read that too yesterday. There is also a reddit post here.

TLDR for those without Twitter: This custom ROM has optional paid customization features. If you attempt to bypass payment through adb it will wipe your internal storage, external storage and eSIMs. Beware.

@Oswald Boelcke @Badger50 for your attention. Perhaps is better to remove links from Project Elixir threads and lock them?
[General Topics] TNSMANI:
Thanks for the headsup. The issue has already been brought to our attention and we are at it.
[General Topics] Retrial:
To get the full picture from both sides, here are Telegram posts from the Project Elixir channel (no need to have account to watch them): post #1, post #2, post #3, post #4, post #5. I also attached screenshots.

However, this response it doesn't fit well to my eyes, to open source philosophy and generally the idea to trigger a wipe phone is very very bad from any point of view. The vocabulary they used on their last posts, because they got exposed, is also very bad and shows immature people.
[General Topics] notnoelchannel:
that's completely illegal in my opinion. like how do they have the authority to do that?!?!
[General Topics] Oswald Boelcke:
We're currently purging XDA from Project Elixir. However, this might take some time to be completed.

Regards

Oswald Boelcke

Senior Moderator
[General Topics] blackhawk:
You gave them that "authority" by loading the firmware. Any time you flash a device you're potentially playing with fire. You are what you flash...
[General Topics] qwertyuiop1289:
PixelPlusUI is from same dev, and AFAIK it also has paid features in its Pixelizer customization tool (correct me if that's not true). It wouldn't be a suprise if there is also similar "feature" implemented there.
[General Topics] Oswald Boelcke:
Please allow me to request your patience and not yet to report any Project Elixir threads.

We are doing our very best to implement this ban but it might take some time, maybe a few days. Any report that we have to handle in parallel just distracts us. Let's say, if you find any thread in about a week that hasn't be cleaned, we'd appreciate your reports.

We've already discussed that project and that's what our head of the Developer Committee said:

Regards

Oswald Boelcke

Senior Moderator
[General Topics] roirraW "edor" ehT:
@NOSS8
[General Topics] Melomi:
It's not as illegal as it is immoral. As a developer you're entitled to any features or code within your services, so long as they don't step over legal boundaries.

Wiping your data is technically not illegal, but because this wasn't publicly discussed at first, on top of the fact that it's a restriction put in a rom that most users will have superuser access to, makes the entire thing look scummy and very inconvenient for those whom used the custom rom.
[General Topics] BMHater12:
Elixir devs are EA in human form
[General Topics] Oswald Boelcke:
@Melomi Thanks for your contribution.

The question for this private website is not if anything is "illegal" or "immoral" but if code published via our website complies with our stance.

Please contact me privately if you think a further discussion is necessary.

Regards

Oswald Boelcke

Senior Moderator
[General Topics] Rainbow_Dash:
There was some discussion about EU's data protection laws. Since the product or service available in public front, for free (in this case, custom rom) gets your data deleted without your consent.

But i'm not a lawyer, i'm spewing bs and who cares about any of that stuff anyway. I just wouldn't want any such code on my device.

There is a very fragile line of trust between a rom developer and his users and stuff like this makes us all look in a bad light
[General Topics] Abdel1993:
Strange that this has remained under the radar for so long. However you look at it, ultimately this software was also available through XDA, making the administrators essentially liable for facilitating and distributing dangerous malware to all users.

Just like Meta and Google get fined for dangerous content being on Facebook and YouTube. There is no difference. I think XDA should be punished very harshly for this. They wouldn't get away with this in the EU.
[General Topics] Retrial:
Well, deleting user data, I wouldn't say its a "feature".

It wasn't discussed publicly because if it was, probably none would use that ROM with the fear of their data, sdcard, esim being deleted.

It is just wrong, there is no excuses for such things...Tbh they destroyed themselves with that thing.
[General Topics] Retrial:
Ok if you want XDA to be punished, lets punish and Google for search results, lets punish Telegram and so on. The difference tho, between these companies you mentioned and XDA is, XDA (mods) actually care and take quick actions when something like that happens.

That code wasn't there from the start of this project and obviously moderators & admins are not robocops, can't monitor all these ROMs sources all the time.

I am glad someone look at it and exposed them, then moderators handled it with no hesitation.

I don't understand why you want XDA to be punished. If you go right now and do something bad to someone, XDA should be punished for your action?
[General Topics] Rainbow_Dash:
The way i see it, if you look really into what's disturbing about this (since some people don't get it)

Is the fact that they remind you (threaten almost) that they CAN erase your data just by triggering that flag they set to whatever they want. Ofc rom developers have full control over their users device if you think about it, but you're not supposed to imply it. That killswitch just by existing takes away from the power a device owner has over their property
[General Topics] blackhawk:
That's aggressive data protection. Similar things can happen with any encrypted device.

With all computers redundant critical data backup is mandatory. You may lose a day, a week, a month etc of critical data but not all your data if properly properly backed up.

Almost every day there's a new post on data lose/recovery here. It's largely preventable if you just redundantly do backups. After the fact is most times too late.
[General Topics] Retrial:
Yeap, data backup is important anyway but I would say that's different from what we have here. Let's separate the data encryption for security reasons and such things which the code was there to act as malicious if triggered.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab A8 (2021)] monsiu:
I honestly was a bit let down by how washed the colors were but i remembered we can change display settings in custom roms. Can this help? In Stock ROM the option is not there. Its pretty sad honestly. How is custom rom on this device? is it snappy or?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ener123:
Hello so i tried rooting my a14 and now few apps wont work so i tried to put on the originale ROM and i didnt save it. is any way to get it?

i tryed it from SAMMOBILE but when i put it in odin it wont work just fail .

if any one have a way to fix it it would be nice.
[FYT Android Head Units] aykaygpad:
Hey everybody,

i wanted to create a shortcut to start 2 apps (spotify/sygig) in Split screen mode.

The Split Screen Launcher apk from github seems to work, but after creation i can't find any button in the apps list? Any Idea what i am doing wrong?
[FYT Android Head Units] Bettman66:
This is due to the launcher supplied. An icon is created with another launcher, but the app does not work.
[FYT Android Head Units] aykaygpad:
Thanks for your reply. Do you have a idea how to automate starting 2 apps in splitscreen?
[FYT Android Head Units] matrixx1:
There is an app add launcher it was posted here a long time ago here on the forum. I managed to download it, but cannot find who posted it. It was changed by the poster so that when you install you remove the gestures (volume and FF rew gestures) bc the app uses these gestures. Here is a video:

The version I have works on Mekede M6 pro plus not only on Teyes. The Teyes version you can download form 4pda Teyes thread
[FYT Android Head Units] matrixx1:
Or you can use car car launcher: https://t.me/carcarlauncher/62
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
A 2nd homescreen will be created and the shortcuts will automatically be put on homescreen 2. Did you swipe from right to left ( <-- ) , to display your 2nd home screen? And then drag them from your 2nd homescreen to the 1st homescreen?
[FYT Android Head Units] aykaygpad:
Tried to scroll, Theres no second screen. :(
[FYT Android Head Units] aykaygpad:
Seems i need root to install? Anyone got root access to the Android 13 uis7870 devices?
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
Ah. You are using a FYT launcher. They blocked 2nd screens in the internal config xml. That's why split screen launcher doesn't work. On any other launcher that supports 2nd (3rd, 4th, etc.) screens it does work. Not on those stupid fyt launchers.
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
I simply side-load installed it on my 7862. No root, no "special" installations.
[FYT Android Head Units] gordgelin:
it works on 7862 no problem since 7862 has system apps signed with platform keys (same as car car launcher), but will not work with 7870 since it has different signature. it should be system app or has system signature to work
[FYT Android Head Units] aykaygpad:
Thanks for your feedback guys. Damn limitations of A13, 7870 hardware is pretty nice...