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[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] JoeTheFro:
For my fellow NaTF ROM Users.

I am a user of the Fuzeberry 7.5 CFC, however i am not a fan of the Crystal Flip Clock and would rather the White Flip Clock.

I have attached two files that allow switching between both clocks.

Please note that these CABs are designed and tested only for the Fuzeberry 7.5 CFC Theme.

Second note is to remember to disable TouchFlo 3D before using these CABs.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] FUZE_User:
Ohh ok.

Thanks for detailing it out for me :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
Poor, poor, NATF. I've decided to just not answer questions where the answer is so obvious.

On another note; I like your ideas for 4.4. I look forward seeing how well 4.4 can be customized with UC during reset.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dentonb2000:
Does this have something to do with the slide option in the dialer? I do like the option; does it conflict with the PTT function?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Elrendhel:
Greetings NotATreoFan!

I am a first-timer at loading 3rd party ROMs, and I have to admit that it took quite a while to decide that I was ready and willing to take the plunge.

It was your 4.2 package that finally convinced me that the number of increases in efficiency was worth the gamble of bricking the device. Happily, I've been so busy the last month that I only got a chance to give it a try this week, after your 4.3 package has already been out for a week.

I sincerely appreciate all of your hard work in this project, and thank you for the absolutely kick-*** ROM. It is truly amazing how much better my Fuze is working in every aspect!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] JamesAllen:
Fixed

I would be curious to see if this were fixed. It has been reported in two other HardSPL threads. I have a good ActiveSync connection both before and after attempting to HardSPL yet I get the same symptoms you do, and others as well. It has not been addressed in either of the two other threads, possibly people assume we have done something wrong. I have Hard SPL'd my 8525 and flashed many ROMs but this process does not work for me.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Tofferbear:
I was going to try it if I ever get my Fuze unlocked. Not at a point where it's worth to pay for it at the moment. hehehe.

This is a known issue...there's a fix for it listed on post 2083. Also I believe the fix has already been implemented in the Kitchen files.

Post 2083 has the fix. It's also in the Kitchen files from what I've been reading.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tadevinney:
NATF or anyone else out there using 4.3..

is anyone having problems sending pictures to anyone else on At&t non-pda phones? I cant send a picture to lg phones on att (muliple units) and neither can another fuze owner
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] databyte:
I was going to post today as I have been using your ROM for 1 week now, but this post says EXACTLY what I wanted to say but probably better than I could have said it.

The only thing I would add is a big THANK YOU to whomever wrote up the NEWB thread on the ROM installs. Excellent walk through!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
Have you called AT&T and asked them? Not that AT&T would ever have any network problems, right?. I've had the same type of problem and it took a call to AT&T to get it fixed.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tadevinney:
This ROM has an issue sending data to LG phones only.. The stock rom does not have this problem.. tested with 2 units using NATF 4.3 and 1 unit stock rom.

Any ideas?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Tofferbear:
Hmmm, sounds to me like it's more the LG Vu's problem not the Fuze. If you private message me the number, I'll try sending a picture to an LG Vu and see if I have a problem...I send SMS's all the time so I know there's nothing wrong with my phone. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] TurboX2:
i've sent out picture messages with no problems on valentines day.

they received them. It was to motorolas, blackberrys, and nokias. so
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
Hmmmmmmmm......

I wonder if this is why I could not beam some MP3s over Bluetooth to my cousin's and his fiances' LG [Verizon] phones. But she could send stuff to me.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tadevinney:
so there is something missing on this version. Cant be the phone cause stock rom works. and I know it worked at christmas time cause i sent pics to lg vu and they worked then. I believe that was 4.0 I was using at the time. I am available via pm all day if I can assist with anything
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Smalls2:
Hey I flashed a buddies CDMA diamond this weekend and noticed that on the people tab, it not only has a call button, but also a text button next to their picture. Can this be added to the ROM?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] RxS2K:
You could just go to the software section and download the latest FuzeBerry suite. it adds so much more functionality to touchflo. check it out.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Smalls2:
Thank you. I didn't realize it was a function of FuzeBerry.

edit*

I dont want the full theme changed, just want that option added. I like the current theme.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] JoeTheFro:
Not just the FuzeBerry. Any theme that uses the People Tab port from the Touch HD.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
Which includes my ROM... :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] eruption82:
IPC black dialer interfering with slide to answer

Hey I just installed IPC black dailer cab and now when i receive a call it pops up but so does slide to answer which was built into 4.3. Normally this wouldn't be a problem but with not being able to remove programs with this build its kinda frustrating. Other than doing a hard reset is there another option?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Smalls2:
So I have to enable this message feature on 4.3? The ability to send a text message from the people tab, that is.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
All you have to do it reinstall the program AFTER you install the fix cab, and then you can uninstall the program.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Tofferbear:
Actually I think it's part of the Touch Pro's stock rom and it was added into Fuzeberry...I could be wrong though.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Smalls2:
Well, I would love to have it enabled in my current 4.3 rom, without changing the theme.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
In my current ROM, once you add someone to the People tab, you get SMS and Email options added below their picture. I'd post a screen of it, but I'm currently running Da_G's WM6.5 beta... giving it a run through its paces...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Smalls2:
I know what you're referring to, I just don't have it!

I will try a re-flash.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] BryanP:
Another flash story if it helps. This was my first flash since my tmo-wizard days and all went fairly smoothly (kaiser is still stock & getting ready for ebay). Using the guides, googling xda, and lots of reading I flashed hardspl then I went ahead and paid to secunlock because to me without Olipro this or my old wizard flashing wouldnt have been possible.

I flashed NATF 4.3 w/o issue but would have liked to have an option to not load all the tf3d since I have phonealarm and spb shell set up to do most everything I need.

Thinking how are you going to know if it's better unless you try I flashed the latest raphael radio 11 something. Then is when I hit my one wrinkle because I started getting these crazy sms msgs that looked like an encoded data stream (completely unreadable and from strange phone numbers). I also had good signal, then no signal, then good again. Clearly the phone was upset.

Since I'm already trusting NATF for this rom I saw blackstone on his sig and after research found how to load it. I remember an old p1tater post where he was flashing radios right & left off his mmc & thought I'd never be that daring but what the heck. Formatted an mmc FAT and loaded blackstone. Now I'm running fine, no more strange sms's, good signal strength even in my basement and gps locks fast. Now I can can read about att roms getting delayed & yawn.

My guess is I'm right on the edge/hspda border at home & this might have contributed to my 11. radio issues. Google didnt shed any light on others having my issue. Not sure if blackstone solved my problem or just reflashing.

The only loose end is when you secu unlock it leaves you with an old hardspl on your phone. I havent seen anyone talking about it or if there's any advantage to flashing back to the one from my initial (higher version number 1.9 I think) hardspl. I'd also like to figure out custom uc scripts when work allows.

I very much would like to thank

natf of course

olipro & cmonex (bet HTC & ATT love you guys)

mskip's noob training course

and the sites blownfuze.org & fuzemobility,

and so many other members who contribute answers more than questions.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
Will this do?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] CR7KB24:
HTC Touch Pro 2 and Diamond 2

Have you guys seen the videos of the new HTC Touch Pro 2 and Diamond 2, the manila is fantastic and they have added a new start menu, and so many other awesome new features. Natf, you should look into these roms once they come out to porting them to the Fuze and Touch Pro :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] reluttr:
Does this mean what I think it does?

I was going to ask if you was going to port 6.5 when the tp2 came out :D

Because it has the same spec "according to engadget" as the touchpro, well other then screen resolution, and the UI on the TP2 is so fluid. So I can only expect it to perform about as well on the touch pro since the tp2 doesnt "supposidly" have any changes when it comes to ram, cpu, and memory size.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] CR7KB24:
The Touch Pro 2 isn't going to be running 6.5, it's going to be running 6.1
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] reluttr:
Wait your right... I wonder why it performs so much better then the touch pro then?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] CR7KB24:
How do you know it preforms so much better than the Touch Pro?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
We don't know, as we don't know what you mean. I will guess by 6.5 you refer to Windows Mobile 6.5, so...

Why would anyone wait for what you call 'tp2' to come out to port to Windows Mobile 6.5. Da_G is already building a kitchen for Windows Mobile 6.5. I will bet that when Windows Mobile 6.5 is released Da_G has a stable kitchen within two weeks.

Do you really think he doesn't keep up with what is going on in this site? He's already using Da-G's port of Windows Mobile 6.5 and he's also active in several other threads. He's pretty much keepig up with the leading edge of what can be done.

I really don't understand the illogical reasoning behind many of the posts here.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] reluttr:
@CR7KB24: Because in the video engadget has of the htc rep demoing the phone you can tell the menus are more fluid. I meant TF3D btw :P

@garyfunk: Actually what I meant that he could port the new version of TF3D :P. I previously thought it had the same version as the one on the HD and it was 6.5 causing it to perform better. But going back I noticed that HTC has redone it quite a bit and added new features "like the intergrated start menu and advanced contact menu". Then I noticed that the TP2 and TD2 officially will run 6.1 pro "although they did have a td2 at the booth running 6.5".
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Tofferbear:
I'm not sure it'll be possible to get the TP2 stuff over to the TP or the Fuze. If the TP2 is running WinMo 6.5 then those features were probably built for that and AFAIK you have to key a build of OS to a particular device, so in order to get WinMo 6.5 on a Fuze you'd have to have a Fuze key'd build of WinMo 6.5...and the same for the TP1.

If I'm wrong that's then that's great as I would be very excited to see some of those features on my Fuze. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] CR7KB24:
Well that is kinda expected as it is a newer version of TouchFlo
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] lemonspeakers:
When I stop using my touch pro for about 10 minutes (obviously because I don't always have it in my hand) and I slide out my keyboard, it takes about 1.5-2 seconds (SLOW) :eek:

Can someone give me some tips on this issue?

How can I speed this up?

I've never had this issue on previous NATF ROMS before! =(
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] oaa8:
I'm sure you've heard of this but if not then maybe this could be put into consideration for future ROMs. I tried out the UPX Squeezer BATCH from Sir.B in the Blackstone thread and for some programs that I tried this for, the load times decreased drastically. For some, load times were already quick and no difference was noted. For the rest that I tried, they were not yet compressible. Maybe you used this in your older roms, or maybe you do right now, I cant really tell because of my lack of expertise but this could decrease some of the loading times and increase some space.

I'm sure you know what "any key" is :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hobolooter:
Well I've been a huge fan of the NATF ROMs, and I decided the only thing I could really contribute are custom splash loaders.

NATF: I'm not entirely sure how you feel about the two you included, but I have an alternative for users to flash. Let me know if this is a problem!

The file to flash:

http://www.hobolooter.com/bootscreen/RAPHIMG.nbh

Screenshot:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Tofferbear:
very nice work. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] marcoaraya:
Thanks!

First let me tell you this ROM ROCKS! Thanks for all the hard work you've put into it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] figster63:
Great ROM, just a few bugs to point out. When on the internet or texting, and you get a call at the same time, the screen starts glitching. Also the battery icon sometimes sways from the % one to the full battery below it.

I haven't downloaded the black screen fix, but when I turn my screen on, off, and on within a few seconds, the black screen pops up.

The slider for answering could use a little tweeking. It often glitches to the the side other than a smooth slide. Other than that this is a very efficient and good looking ROM, keep up the good work.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
This is what happens when someone who knows how to use Photoshop comes around! ;) If you could modify the screen to Touch Pro Series and remove 4.3 (so I can use it for multiple builds), or send me the PSD, I will gladly use it going forward.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
And speaking of photo changes...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] matthewjayala:
NATF v5.0

ok i'm not sure if these question have been asked but i'll go for it.

1) will v5 include windows mobile 6.5?

2) Can can someone develop apps for winmo? i see the ads for the blackberry app development tools on XDA and now with the windows marketplace coming out i would like to know how i could produce apps.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hobolooter:
Just uploaded the PSD:

http://www.hobolooter.com/bootscreen/splash.psd

Probably not the best place to ask... I've been developing Windows Mobile apps since like PPC 2000/2002. If you have limited programming experience I would try working with managed code (using the .NET 3.5 framework). There is a plethera of resources if you search Google. Good luck!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
It was time for a refresh.

1. Not yet. I'm waiting for a slightly more stable/compatible (VGA) build to surface.

2. I'm sure MS will develop some type of dev kit prior to the official launch of WM6.5.

Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] wildace408:
quick question. did a quick search but didnt find anything. does anyone know why the data symbol on the status bar will sometimes seem to be almost whited out? Its happened since stock fuze rom/radio and i have seen it on a couple of natf roms and with new radio. Everything seems to work fine. just wondering if it was maybe because data was not used for a certain amount of time. Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Mr_Q:
NotATreoFan,

I must admit I like your lite version of this rom, however..

I do not like the customized splash/startup screens..

If Manila would be left of to make it more lite, and upload the cab somewhere else if you want to install in manually, it would be awesame.

The same thing for Opera, if someone would like to install a different version, there is no need for this to be in the rom.

As I am not a cooker myself, I would really appreciate if you are able to remove this stuff.

Some other thing, not that I used Manila but it feels 'unclean', some of the icons from the Manila Progams tab are corrupt / incorrect..

Thanks in advance for your response and the hard work.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hobolooter:
One thing I found was Word 2007 not working. I haven't done much searching on the problem, but it's definitely p. weird.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] novaIS350:
@ Hobolooter, I've made some modifications to your psd. I thought staying true to the HTC green might look a little more "canon" if you will. Tell me what you think. Once again this piece was hobolooter's work, I just replaced some of the colors.

edit: It almost has an Xbox360 feel to it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
Those icons are the HTC default icons, and every now and then one will sneak through for a few seconds.

Office is not included in the lite ROMs.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hobolooter:
haha go for it. i'd like anyone to make changes. i believe the best part about using a custom rom is we are able to make it what we want. screw what at&t and htc think is best for us.

also i do kind of like the green better :-p
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bpm2000:
nice! just changed to it! thx both of you.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hobolooter:
right, i installed it via the cab. powerpoint and excel work fine, word just has heart failure when opening and creating new docs.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bpm2000:
Just tested Word myself and it works fine? I installed via cab on a lite rom as well.

on another note- is anyone using flash/flash lite with opera on this rom?

thx
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hobolooter:
mind linking that cab or where you found it? tia, i bet my copy just sucks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] figster63:
How do I remove the ROM? Its acting very glitchy for me and a black screen keeps popping up.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ssherrill:
Incredible ROM

NATF,

This ROM is really awesome, and with Gary Funk's UC help, I can reflash and still have everything back up and running within 20 minutes or so.

Haven't noticed this issue posted. When I sync with Windows Mobile Device Center (Vista), I always get a sync error on the first attempt. Then when I resync, it works with no errors. Anybody else seen this or have any ideas?

The sync works the second time, even though I don't close anything on the device or the PC

Thanks,

Stuart
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tadevinney:
Anymore thoughts on this one?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
Did it work in 4.2 or 4.1?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Tofferbear:
You wouldn't happen to have other devices plugged in would you? Like a Zune or an iPod or even another mobile device?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] oaa8:
I get this exact error as well. I only get it after I select the synchronization of files. Since I sync files all of my My Documents folder on the phone gets restored but I don't check that on the initial sync or even forget to for a while, but once I select that the error starts popping up again.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tadevinney:
not sure.. didnt stay with either one long enough. 4.0 did work
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
You could move this closer to a fix if you could tell NATF which verison broke it, that is if you are interested in getting if fixed quickly.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
The thing is, I cannot send files over Bluetooth, but I can send Pics/Video/MP3s via MMS.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kahibbi:
Answer delay and slider issue

I searched and didn't see a fix for two problems I'm having. The first is that 4.3 seems to have a substantial delay from when the phone begins ringing on a caller's phone until the time it actually rings on my phone. I've tested it and it is from 3 to 4 rings that are heard by the caller before my phone rings and vibrates. On my own tests, the calls went to voicemail before I could even answer the phone.

the other issue has to do with answering the phone. The slider disappears after a while. When the phone does actually ring (see above) and shows the incoming caller and the supposed "Answer/Ignore" slider areas, there is actually no slider. The phone cannot be answered. The buttons don't work without the slider, thus leaving the phone useless to try and answer. A soft reset fixes the slider, but it has happened each of the last two days ... had to soft reset to correct the issue.

Any fixes for these items? I hope so; otherwise I'll have to go back down to 3.2 ... for the 3rd time (4.0 introduced GPS/software issues). I like the speed this ROM, but I can't afford to miss calls.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ssherrill:
Only my Fuze!

Sounds like it may have something to do with the MyDocuments folder, since I am syncing that.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sstrunks:
I don't know if this is any help or relevant to you, but I was able to beam using bluetooth the pimbackup software to a friend's tmobile dash a.k.a. XDA Excalibur.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
I do not experience these delays. Have you tweaked anything?

I can beam files to my crappy Nokia work cell phone. I just can't beam to LG phones.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] JoeWilcox:
When I use the keyboard on my fuze to say write an email, I still get the stupid black input area that causes massive screw ups while editing. Any idea how to disable this stupid feature for good?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] msuk:
Hello,

Does anyone have the cab file the battery application included in this ROM?

Thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] slavany:
Same problem

I have the same issue. I remember doing some registry tweeks on my stock ROM that saved me a few seconds during the call but I can't find that post.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] slavany:
<rotate screen>

I have a problem when I assign any button (i.e. PTT) to manually rotate the screen -- <Rotate Screen> command. I have tried to assign any to other system commands like <Start Menu> or <Today> but it just doen't work. I have "Manually Rotate Screen" checked in the TF3D configuration tool. Anyone experiencing same issue or knows how to solve the problem?

Fuze, v4.3s
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sstrunks:
I have a few friends with LG phones, I can give it a try when I run into them later. Is it with a specific LG model? or all LG phones?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tadevinney:
My findings: ALL Lg Vu and when tested with At&t corp she just told me it wasnt a VU but it was LG..
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Tofferbear:
syncing MyDocuments

I spoke with peer about your problem this morning. He's guessing that there is something like a firewall that has an open handle to some kind of log file that is in your MyDocuments folder, and when you try to sync up WMDC tries to get exclusive access to every file in that folder. If it cannot it throws up an error like the one you're seeing.

Just to make 100% sure that it is syncing up the MyDocuments folder causing the problem, can you setup WMDC to stop syncing it for a day or two to see if the problem goes away?