yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jewstie:
0.8 or angstrom don't boot with me. It gives an error when trying to load the image. And yes i run from SD card, i did run it from device also the image loaded slightly faster I guess. no other differences there though. It strange that i won't run with you. The only big difference seems to be your ROM.

Something totally different: You use Telfort? How's the internetspeed, cause the advertise with 768 kb/s but i got my contract a couple of days ago and the General Conditions (? - Algemene voorwaarden dus) say it's only 128 kb/s
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] NeoS:
I've got android 0.8 to boot. Got the weird text issue though. So it must be something else with android 1.0

offtopic: Anyway, about Telfort: I'm surfing with the slowest HSDPA speed (or fastest 3G speed ;))

Indoors: 380kbps down, 103 kbps up.

Outdoors: 533kbps down, 102 kbps up. according speedtest.net.

Sometimes i get even better speeds.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jewstie:
With the weird test issue you mean the scrambled bootscreen? The one were you see a little bit of the head of Tux but the rest is just white text all scrambled?

Offtopic: Sounds nice! Better than the KPN Hi speeds i've got now (about 100 kb/s down)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] patp:
Which files are you guys playing with? There's stuff about this on the WIKI which might help:

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlackstoneLinux

I haven't had time to set up a dev env yet, but I will next week and then I'll try to recompile the kernel and figure out what's up. I don't think xmoo's approach of just trying kernels from other devices is really going to cut it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jewstie:
I used the exact files in the first post of this topic. Got the same screen as the second picture on the WIKI. I think you are right about xmoo's approach, it might will probably give a booting version of android on the blackstone. But for full functionality I guess your approach is better. But hey I don't know too much about all this, learning by the day!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] patp:
I don't know much either, but I can see there's a lot of device specific stuff, so just trying images seems very unlikely to go anywhere.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] NeoS:
Seeing the scrambled text reminds me of the first stage of driver development for Polaris. The 3D was really messed up because of the screen refreshrates and buffers. Maybe it has something to do with that.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] patp:
That suggests two things to me:

Look through Polaris threads, see what they did to solve it

Contact the guy who fixed it for advice!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
It is the same problem.

But this time with a bigger screen.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Thegn:
Hi,

I'm not a programmer, but I went to the Wiki, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlackstoneLinux, and took a quick peek in the .diff file there. With correct screen settings in that file, I think (hope :-) ) it should be possible to boot without garbled text. I noticed several lines which were changed to the HD's resolution, but some were not. Maybe changing these can help things work?

But as I'm not a programmer, maybe I'm totally wrong. But someone with experience perhaps could open up that file and see if something could be done?

It would be great if we could get Android working!

Cheers,
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jewstie:
Did somebody try this?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] patp:
if you mean

+#if defined(CONFIG_MACH_HTCBLACKSTONE) || defined(CONFIG_MACH_HTCVENUS)
+#define HTC_FB_SIZE 0x00200000 /* map 1 MB (640 * 480 * 2 rounded properly) */
+#else
+#define HTC_FB_SIZE 0x00100000 /* map 1 MB ([B]640 * 480[/B] * 2 rounded properly) */
+#endif

That's just a comment.

But there might be other bits that are wrong. Trouble is, that dev fork is just someone's go at it, and it clearly is wrong. If you read the logs at:

http://apt.rikers.org/#htc-linux/

you can get an idea of the problems that need to be solved.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jewstie:
aaah now thats usefull!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Spike_69:
thx working now:):):):):):D:D:D:D:D:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::cool::cool::cool:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Imperium:
How did you fixed it? i can't seem to find a solution..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] townkat:
Android 1.6 compiled by kva. Nothing really work, but it is a joy to play with it because it is lighting fast ;).

Bottom right of the page, "Save to your pc" link

http://www.2shared.com/file/8238199/7e07ebae/Android_16_for_HTC_Blackstone.html

Enjoy.

edit: keep tmp folder, this build should go into sdcard/tmp folder
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Spike_69:
hey

jewstie replied on my post

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike_69 View Post

wonderfull job done guys

but i cannot connect either 3g either wifi

i added apn in settings of wm,modified the sartup.txt but when i try to add apn under android the apn isn't saved sniff sniff

so no browsing ,market etc...

Add the apn in Android, reboot your phone and in wm boot Android again. Then your apn will show up in the list and you can select it, worked for me.

and working now i am connected on 3g
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Imperium:
Ah my bad. I thought you had the same problem as me (booting issue)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Kenia1234:
I can't believe it!!! YOU MANAGE TO DO THAT!!!

you are on the right way men!!! go on with this!!! I m sure that in a relatively short time we'll have HTC Sense running on our blackstone...and it would be AWESOME!!! Goodbye Windows Mobile!!! :):)

You're simply great!!! go on and please stick this post!! it's probably the most important in the blackstone forum!!! :) and post the results of your great work at the first page!!

thanks for all!!! :):)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gerdgerdgerd:
could i paste the image into the internal storage root? or musst haret run from the storage card?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] opensea:
Ahah. There is no devs in Topaz Linux project yet. You're lucky guys.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Prof. Yaffle:
I had problems first time I booted it with things repeatly hanging and no sound in calls but after a restart of the phone it seems much quicker and the sound is working in calls with no problem. Text messaging also seems to be working fine. Great work!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Imperium:
I keep getting the Waiting for SD card message, just before that message i get MMC0: Command Timeout
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Prof. Yaffle:
Blimey! That is fast.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
You have the normal transcend-card error.

Have you done what I told you?

Search for transcend in the forum search!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Imperium:
i did.

All i found was how to format a SD card and other users with problems with transcend sd cards.

i tried different cluster sizes, used panasonic sd formatter, HP formatter, windows explorer format.

heck it seems i tried everything?

if i´m missing something here please point me to the right direction? or is there still no fix.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
I cant get the 1.6 image to boot.

It hangs at...

intit: cannot find '/system/bin/installd', disabling installd

I just copied the files to the card like with the other builds, do I have to do something else with this?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
Allright!

Im sorry I cant help you then. :(

Try to get ahold of a Sandisk card. ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] townkat:
yes, u should keep tmp folder, so everything goes in card/tmp/...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mc S.H.O.:
i putt this zip file into my storage card

click haret

loading ( black screen with all the white letters

he's stopping by this last line

Failed

Failed to find rootfs.img on sd card. you need to unzip a rootfs zip file to the root of your sd card

/bin/sh: cant acces tty; job control turned off

/#

who's now's what i must to do...what do i wrong
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] darkdominus:
I'm having the same problem... what can i do???
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Imperium:
Did you extract to the root?

Is this build worth it to get a new sandisk sdhc? or is it not useable for daily usage? (marketplace, etc)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mc S.H.O.:
now i copieed the root.img file into the storage card...that's works good now the system.img is freezing... now i put al the .img to te storagecard looking of thats works
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] felixjai:
I can't get data connection working. I added the APN in Android, and hit the reset button behind the cover (I can't find reboot command or shortcut in Android). Reboot back in wm and run android again, still couldn't see APN.

I've also tried putting the apn settings in startup.txt with

ppp.apn=internet2.voicestream.com ppp.username= ppp.password=

I am on Tmobile USA (username & password are blank). Still not working.

Can someone shed some light?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] darkdominus:
As i said, i had that problem with a Transcendent Card, tryed with a Kignstone and it worked.

By the very nice job, real nice job. Tanks everyone for this allmost ready android, a few more time and i think it will work
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] stefh:
Is it possible to get rid of the response to double tapping the screen? It will always launch the phone app on my blackstone and it is so freaking annoying. It is really difficult to not accidentily double tap.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mc S.H.O.:
call works good

sms no working

internet no working
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mc S.H.O.:
somebody have a good working linux???????

Sound...

internet....

sms....

????????????????????????
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fards:
wifi doesn't work

sound is intermittent for me sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't on calls..

to get internet working

set up your manual apn (with mms settings)

then go to main menu and select modem and then connect (or disconnect reconnect)..

mine is connected now over gprs
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] LelleZet:
Call and sound working over Headphone! SMS working fine! Great work dude! :) .. Make it run and i make you rich :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] christine600:
Trying BLACK100_ANDROID_SND on a SanDisk card with no PIN code on the SIM the boot starts but then starts to repeat this message:

INFO: task rpcrouter :13 blocked for more than 120 seconds.

Then some more debug info like register dumps or similar.

The last message before the timeout was

FATs differ but appear to be intact. Using first FAT.

Tried resetting the phone 4-5 times - this always happens...

EDIT: Booting 1.6 from the tmp folder works though.

EDIT2: Never mind - reformatting the card and trying again booted Android just fine.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
No its not.

Imo its far from daily use state.

I got 1.6 working.

I dont use transcend, i use sandisc. I kept the files in the TMP folder and it worked.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] felixjai:
Did you have to modify the ppp settings in startup.txt? When I manually add an APN, and hit save. But it doesn't appear on the APN list. Were you able to save the APN settings successfully and the APN show up on the list?

I'm using the android package from DarkStone1337
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ASK768:
could we have a new mirror for android 1.6?

i suggest megaupload as it allows you unlimited downloads and the file stays until not downloaded for 30 days (has some annoying ads though...)

Its great to see progress like this on the android front. Is there much else that needs doing?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] DarkStone1337:
Sure!

http://gamesquare.co.uk/blackstone/android/Android 1.6 for HTC Blackstone.zip

also, another mirror for the build with sound:

http://gamesquare.co.uk/blackstone/android/BLACK100_ANDROID_SND.zip
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ion blue:
Tried this out.. indeed i connected to gprs but i didnt have any network,

i think i have to play with the settings a bit,

Thanks Fards

EDIT: Got internet now.. thanks again Fards :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] felixjai:
I really don't know what I am doing wrong. I still can't get Internet to work. I manually add an APN with the following settings (I'm on tmobile USA), still not working. Did your APN get saved? When I try to save the APN setting, the APN didn't show up on the APN list.

Name: tmobile

APN: internet2.voicestream.com

MCC: 310

MNC: 410

all other settings are not set

Am I doing something wrong? Please help!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daniel.hunt:
Android 1.6 for HTC Blackstone.zip
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] IAmSmoke:
Is the wi-fi working on Raphael/Diamond?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] aavan:
I've tried this new build with in-call sound.

It's very impressive what you guys have achieved so far, it's a nice POC.

I'd love to help however my skills in C coding are far behind me as I'm now a full-time web developer (mostly actionscript) since several years.

However if there is any way I can help (testing, etc.) please feel free to contact me...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fards:
no don't need to change the startup.txt at all.

I use the android settings (I'm using the version _with_SND)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] badboy007:
my blackstone go to shouting down after android is starting:confused::confused:

after copy new files on the sd card its the same????

no input possible, after 20 minutes i reset the blackstone and try agan,

and agan... 10 times....no change
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fards:
user name? password? mms settings? I needed to set them all to get it to work
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fards:
is anyone using the 1.6 able to get the phone/imei/sim recognised. it's obviously the more stable and responsive build, but not quite as useful.

I'll have a play with it all later on if I get a chance to see what I can do, changing kernel didn't seem to make a difference.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kva:
It's not a kernel problem - it's android problem. I've built generic image of 1.6 android. Working on getting back gsm, sound e.t.c. to 1.6.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] skreis:
Hi all.

I've been following this and other Android threads and seeing at least some progress was and is the only reason to keep my Blackstone.

Today was the first time I thought it would make sence to check out how the current state builds perform. So I booted the "build w/sound". Booting itself went very smoothly, in-call sound and gprs work, no wifi and bluetooth, the phone gets hot while using it.

Looks like i will keep my Blackstone further and a stable fully operational Android for it is just around the corner.

Thanks to everyone making it possible, i'm willing to donate.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lambstone:
just a quick question, the build with sound right, there isn't any way to put the device on standby is there?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] darkdominus:
Hi all, i've installed the Sound version, but i've got no sound!!! Can some one help me? I can make call, everything else, except WiFi.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] chriss66:
That's different for each carrier, as u can se on this guide for Norwegian users: http://androidforum.no/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=132

The data connection worked for me once, then on the next boot, it worked a little while. Went in to settings, and had lost them all.(wap, mms & Internet.)

Tryed to enter them ageing, butt would not save.

Stil trying, will update whit progress.:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] aavan:
There's no sound in android for the HD, the mention "Sound" in this version means that we now have in-call sound.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mwchadwick:
I've also this problem with the daniel.hunt zip... no operator and can make/receive no calls :( can't see where to set this up

But other than that its looking promising - played a little pacman :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] darkdominus:
Haaa, ok, thanks, i've missed that.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] 1337_V1k1n6:
It is fun to see development guys.. I had almost given up the thought of running android on my precious HD :P been testing it for some time now and apart from the variety of nice bugs its working fine :)

Cheers
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mc S.H.O.:
i hope the guys making it a good thing to run on the blackstone

so i see how it looks now on my touch hd

yeahhhhh hope for everybody a nice good working android
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] El Massman:
1.6 is running really fast. just came across this link. is this something we'd be able to use eventually? http://www.htcheroblog.com/2009/09/25/sprint’s-htc-hero-to-launch-with-android-1-6/ as far as i'm aware the sense ui doesn't run at our native resolution. does this mean it'd have to be scaled or can it be edited and rethemed with graphics that work at wvga resolutions?

great work guys
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bl@ck:
We've to wait for HTC to release it, they're working on a new android device with 800x480 resolution that runs android with sense ui :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Rumbi:
Can anybody explain to me, why in the 1.6 Version nothing works (e.g GSM etc) and in 1.5 it does ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ion blue:
I think because the dev was made on the 1.5 version. As far as i know

our devs are trying now to put the custom code to 1.6
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tids2k:
+1 delighted and happy.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ASK768:
thanks for the mirror
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dcordes:
hello my friend. I pushed your patch to linuxtogo.org

http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/...it;h=034fa53eb6215c4ea78845d2ad4d498d5d493e20
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tids2k:
is it the incall sound you talking about dcordes ??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] felixjai:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4469163&postcount=3548

I've followed the instructions above from Diamond/Raph thread to get Internet/Data connection working on my blackstone. Hope this helps others who have trouble getting data connection to work.

I'm able to go to Market and download apps. I've installed screenshot app to try to take screenshots and post here. But I got "Error: Unable to determine uid for package". All other Internet services are working so far. I'm able to sync with my gmail, contacts, calendar.:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mblancom:
Thanks a lot !
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bairro:
MEN transcend CARDS suck!!! big time!!

is there any way to make transcend memory card to work? thx

I hoppe that soon enouthg this will work at 100%...it would be a wonderful day!!!

GREAT WORK!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Roadrunner100:
New Image

The following Kernel Zimage file boots successfully.

http://glemsom.anapnea.net/android/blackstone/

see latest build dated Wed Oct 07 00:55:22 2009 +0200.

Checking it out at the moment....
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gerdgerdgerd:
why we dont ask transcend to help us with our current problem. maybe they have a optimal solution?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] 1337_V1k1n6:
Why don't those people with transcend cards buy a new card? :P
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bl@ck:
buy a 2gb card for 4€ and live happily :P
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gerdgerdgerd:
hehe :), but this would be only a workaround
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Roadrunner100:
Thanks Felix,

procedure worked! not on the first time, but persistence and retrying produced the results, a working 3G data connection.

The Android browser (Mobile Chrome?) is VERY fast, puts to shame all the WM based browsers I've used so far.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bairro:
I have the 1.13 radio...

What is the best radio tu use with android?

I have made it work but, is very unstable always shutting down...

When i click on someting it simply forces a close.

When enters on shutdown it stays there forever!!

anyway Iam happy to see that android is a few steps away from being my preferd SO on HD.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daniel.hunt:
Don't be silly - it's a long, long way away from that
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] aavan:
Yes well, at least he's positive, it's true that there's still a lot of things to debug (like plugging a usb cable to charge the phone after the phone has booted android that doesn't change the state of the phone, the sound not working in the OS, wifi, gps, etc...)

But yeah things changed pretty quickly, so I can understand why he's so positive about Android on the HD ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daniel.hunt:
So am I, but I'm also realistic ;)

I'm quite looking forward to seeing how this progresses though. If everything works out well we should have a stable, sound&data-capable build in the next week or 2.

All I need now is to pull myself away from the iphone I've adopted because of how unbelievably painful WM is to use ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bairro:
iam a believer!!!

please dont call me silly :o

to many people do that!! iam starting to think that it can be truth
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] El Massman:
can the current power management setup be implemented on the blackstone or is this something our people will need to tackle from scratch? i'd be pretty happy at the moment if the battery didn't wear down so quick and i could turn off the screen. that's pretty much all it would take to start using this full time. anything else would be a bonus.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] patp:
I think there's a long way to go. If you look at the Vogue project, the most mature of the Android ports, what happened is that once it becomes sort-of-working (where we are now), people start developing skills in Android tweaking and that progresses alongside further kernel refinement.

We have a big list of targets to meet before I would consider it usable:

sound audible and adjustable on all outputs

reliable 3G data

charging

interface smoothness, currently it's way to laggy

These are "must haves" then we need

more power management

camera

wifi

GPS

BT

and I'm sure there's lots more.

BTW, if you're sick of WM, give SPB mobile shell 3.5 a go. It's made me much happier with my phone.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] patp:
Incidentally, if anyone is skilled at setting up linux/android, wouldn't it be better to boot it in main memory and just use the (presumably slower) SD card as storage? Or is that already what happens?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] aavan:
Well I hope developers can focus more on power management, charging before developing multimedia skills

Did you try WM 6.5 ? It's a lot better than the 6.1, it has been my permanent OS solution for the HD, maybe the Android will be my next solution, but not before early 2010 I guess...