yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mattbratt:
Compatibility!

Will be upgrading from 8525 to Fuze this Tuesday, when it is shipped from ATT. This is very exciting, and look forward to killing the standard ROM and loading yours, NATF. I have been following your Fuze efforts since you started, and anxiously await my Fuze arrival. I can certainly wait for a perfected 4.2, when YOU feel comfortable.

What do I want to be perfect on my Fuze: Phone, Messaging, Texting, Voice Command, GPS.

My advice is try not to put too many features and programs in your ROMs too fast. Gets too complicated to debug and provide support in my opinion.

When I get a chance to load your ROM, I will try to provide any helpful feedback that I can.

Thanks already, even though I have not yet tried any of your ROMs yet.:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
Don't you know. I'm not meant to be happy. I'm married with children. :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
I switched to YouMail today too. Here is what you do:

http://www.youmail.com/youmail/help/view/faq_retrieve_old
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] techman28:
Ya, I had just figured it out on my own, but thanks anyways.

EDIT: So how are you having it set up? Do you have them txt you when you get a voicemail, or email you?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] PTzero:
I vote for an older OS that's more stable/compatible.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Jelster:
I tend to lurk but I'll chirp up and say go for the stable version.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] DerekHaltom:
I say wait. I would rather have to wait another day or two and have something stable and quick than get one tonight, and then have to install another a week from now.

Just my opinion, but it seems to be the majority right now.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ryan6603:
I've been waiting to use WMP again so it does not matter (album still freezes once in a while needing a reset too. like showing off my spakin new son!) . if you say you have to step back an OS version to complete this to have it stable then what other issues might we see? i think any way you look at it, it's beta so there will be some problem.

is it much work to release as is for 4.2 and then again for the stable build you are working on as 4.3? i would rather have a median to have what's currently broken fixed and then you take as much time as needed for 4.3 as, like you said b4, you can't do too much during the week at work and not have to be pressured to release a day (or so) later.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Ovrclck:
Stability as well. Sirius Starplayer doesn't work with 4.1
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
Here is what I have at this time:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ryuu55:
I vote for the waiting for a stable release........Skyfire likes to randomly restart my Fuze.

Thanks:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ssherrill:
I'm with you, man!

Thanks,

Stuart
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] DrzNight:
I think it would be cool to release 4.2 and then a well planned 5 if its not too much trouble but then again its hats best for you
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] naveen:
though it depresses me...stability rules!:(:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] atsitalian:
Later with more stability and greater compatibility for me as well!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] aak4:
I use youmail, and I really like it. Mine is set to both text and e-mail messages to me. This way I get it immediately via text, and I have a permanent copy in my e-mail (with an mp3 file of the actually recording attached!).
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rddcarlos:
Vote YES for Animation Splash Screen !!

yes of course wait... Stability is key!!!!

and also what do you guys think if NATF makes a standard fuze rom with the at&t 3G animation splash screen... i vote yes for animation cause i cant get any other animation screens to load any of NATF's rom's....
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] CR7KB24:
STABILITY! Take your time ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] galford316:
I have been registered to the board for a long while now and have never said anything. Now, I have something good to say. :) My vote is wait. I will be upgrading from a cingular 8525 to the fuze (bypassing the stock att rom to 4.X or what ever is stable.) I think it would be better to have a consistently working device vs one that is cool only when you can get it to work. I take my phone more granted and just expected it to work :)

Thanks again for all the hard work NATF..
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mviana:
Don't steal my line!!! :rolleyes:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] JoeTheFro:
For those that dont like clicking and extra reading - Stability! ( EDIT : This line was at the bottom, and now moved to the top )

I will be sticking with my vote back from this post.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3165431&postcount=875
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
Hmm, while I am not against this, and before I vote for it, I want to know why you want this type of splash screen. From what I understand, it just eats up more memory and serves no usefull purpose.

Might it be easier on NATF if you state your vote and not make him have to go to another page to count yours?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] JoeTheFro:
Garyfunk.... Not to sound mean, but are you blind and somehow missed the part where i sum up my vote in one word without forcing anyone to goto another page?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
And the overwhelming majority has it... v4.2 will be released no later then Tuesday, and will be rolled back to a more stable build.

I will not include any animations in my ROMs, but I will attempt to include all the code needed for them to be enabled post-flash.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
No. But that could be either way. You could be saying that about 4.1 I find 4.1 very stable. It hasn't locked up, it hasn't rebooted. It's as darn near wonderful as I could hope for. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] CR7KB24:
MMS

Is there a way to make the gif images in a mms longer, why can I only see 4 seconds of a gif in a mms? :(

P.S. I am with ATT
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] grizzlygoon:
4.1 crashes

That was the problem I had that case on my phone. I don't anymore and my phone works a ok. Thanks for leading me to that post I thought my phone had problems...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
Is there a way, in some future version, that you might be able to do the following in your ROM at some point during install?

before cemail.vol is destroyed

if Storage Card

copy \cemail.vol \Storage Card\cemail.vol

then when time

copy \Storage Card\cemail.vol \cemail.vol

I have spent many hours reading, testing, trying and failing to find a way to backup cemail.vol. I'm not giving up, but I just can't do it yet.

Thanks,

Gary
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tassadar898:
Kind of off topic but could someone please do me a favor and post an attatchment with the htcmdp.dll from NAFT, my youtube is buggy on da_g 2.07 and its not on this rom and im hoping if i put this .dll in there it will fix it. Also could someone post the black "Today" theme from this rom? I have a green task bar and the bar on the bottom with the softkeys and a black manilla 3D looks weird. THANKS SO MUCH!!!

Edit: found the black theme
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] systematicdecline:
I pick Stability with funcionality. I want all my programs to work, as well as a stable ROM where it doesn't crash. Use stuff like XM, and other things that came with the att rom, but not the things we dont like, like pac man, and the songs that came on the rom etc, junk taking up room.

But Programs like world cards are really cool, and to me extremly important.

Thanks for all your work.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
Here ya go.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] :
Texting

i was wondering if there is a better texting program/utility than the one that is used by default. im not looking for anything specific, just better "in general"
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Noonski:
Looks like the Pro users actually is a Pro user.

Stability above Psychological Eye Candy AKA version numbers also got my vote;)

I'm interested in trying something out with this.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] innoman:
mwi

If someone hasn't already helped you out... Leave yourself a message.... then delete it. That usually works for me (I tested phones until just a few months ago... yay recession...)

Alternately, you may need to switch back to your old vm service and make sure it's clear.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] innoman:
Infiniti/Nissan Bluetooth Issues

I've been searching through the posts for 4.x and 1.x-3.x but I haven't found anything on this issue. If the question has been asked and answered, I apologize for reposting. I have also looked through a number of forums for an answer but it doesn't seem there is one (which may be an answer in itself).

It seems to be the case with all WinMo phones 6.0 and later... They have some major issues with BlueTooth when paired with certain model year Infiniti and Nissan systems. Choppy audio in, no audio out without disconnecting BT and then reconnecting it on each call. I have been reading that it was not an issue with OS' prior to WinMo 6, that it worked fine with the Tilt until a person upgraded to 6.x. Does anyone know if it is possible to use the old BT stacks or something with the Fuze? Any chance there is way to fix it?

For the last month or two (I don't really remember when I got my Fuze), I have pretty much not bothered with BT'ing my phone with my car. Kinda sucks to have that option but not be able to use it... lol

Thanks......
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] snusnu1987:
I'm definitely getting random reboots, but I'm curious as to how I'm supposed to format my microSD card. I'm on Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit. Here's a little info:

1) Can't find it under Manage -> Storage -> Disk Management

2) Connected through Windows Mobile Device Center -- no option for formatting the microSD, no option to access through the icon it creates in My Computer (ie the option is not available to format)

3) No other machine accessible to try and format from there.

4) External card reader is not available.

Is there a program I can install on my Fuze to try and do it from the phone itself? Thanks.

Edit: Got it. In Windows Mobile Device Center I changed the connection settings, so it stopped associating itself with my phone. Then when I connected a USB to it, the phone prompted me with ActiveSync, Data Connection and something else. Selected Data Connection and the computer was able to recognize the drive which I promptly formatted.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] JoeTheFro:
Gary, I use SPB Backup 2.x and when doing full backups, it does snag the cemail.vol. After a flash, i just do a selective restore. You can also use the unpack tool on the PC side to snag only the files you want and throw them on the storage card, and into the SDConfig. not tested, but sounds like it should work.

Screen of looking inside a spb full backup file using unpack tool.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
The Tilt shipped with WM6, so it is possible that the Bluetooth stack in WM6.1 has issues with newer car stereos.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
I have the same problem with the Fuze, and before that, with the Tilt. I have a 2008 Pathfinder. I have yet to find even a clue as to where to look for an answer.

I had the same problems with the Tilt. I gave my Tilt to my daughter, so I still have access to it if need be.

I am very interested in working with you on this. I know there has tobe a way to do this.

THANK YOU. I will give SPB Backup 2.x a try.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] techman28:
So I am now using YouMail and I want to know if there is a way to setup an icon in the programs tab or in the start menu that when clicked on, takes you to operas browser and to m.youmail.com for visual voicemail. Can anyone help me out?

Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] PTzero:
Add m.youmail.com as a favorite in Opera. It will then show up in your Internet tab.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] techman28:
I did that, but is there a way to make a shortcut to it that I can add to either my start menu or my programs tab?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Smalls2:
Ok I've searched but have no answer.

How can I use my camera flash, as just a FLASH? The only option I have is flash light. I just want it to flash for a darn picture. Am I missing something?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
Tap the gear icon in Camera mode, and turn on Flash Light.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Smalls2:
Ok, so flash light is my only option?

No flash with shutter at the same time? like a normal camera
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ryan6603:
it does. it just turns on the light fully so you can see in a dim setting the image you are trying to take. when you take the pictures it does flash. try it taking a picture in the dark.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] techman28:
@ NATF

Since you have mentioned you use YouMail, plus this is your ROM, I'll ask you,

each time I flash a new one of your roms, or hard reset, do I have to go

through the whole thing of setting up YouMail on my phone, in Setting/Phone/Services

and typing in the YouMail Voicemail number? Plus each time do I have to dial

the **004*plus the youmail number? Is there away to add this in to my UC

in the XML or something? If so how? Do you use UC and have it in yours? Or

what do you do each time you reflash or hard reset?

Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Smalls2:
thanks. I'll try that.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
Once you set your new voicemail number under Settings, it will follow you from ROM to ROM. What is the **004* code you're dialing? I just dial voicemail as normal to get connected to YouMail...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] techman28:
For intial YouMail setup on your phone it tells you to dial **004* then the youmail number, to forward your voicemail to YouMail instead.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
I don't remember doing that, but if I did, then it was only once, and YouMail works fine.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
I've got a few testers working on v4.2 right now, and so far everything is OK. If things continue that way, the ROM should be up tonight.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] techman28:
Ok, great!

Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] techman28:
I dont know if this changes based on rom, or if its always the same for one type of device, but for the HTC Fuze what should I set the GPS Baud Rate at when using GPS programs?

Thanks.

EDIT: Additionally, would it be possible to create a cab that adds the curtain on the bottom where the tabs are, but not at the top?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
There are registry entries for call forwarding, though I don't know if you need them.

<characteristic type="Registry">

<characteristic type="HKCU\ControlPanel\PhoneCallFwd" recursive="true">

<parm name="1" value="+17142043114" datatype="string"/>

<parm name="2" value="+17142043114" datatype="string"/>

<parm name="3" value="+17142043114" datatype="string"/>

<parm name="DelaySeconds" value="30" datatype="integer"/>

</characteristic>

</characteristic>
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] techman28:
Seeing as how you said you just switched to YouMail also, are you using the reg settings in your UC?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
I am doing a lot of testing with UC and did a reinstall of the NATF ROM. I did not have to reset the voicemail number. It continued to go to Youmail.com

I am not. I just pulled those out. I had it set the way, but it's not necessary.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] DrzNight:
Sounds greaaat :), Is it the new build with more compatibility?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sguerra923:
That sounds good... hopefully tonight everyone will be flashing like crazy lol
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rareness4:
Glad the census was to take the stability route. Can't wait to hopefully flash 2night :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
I don't think NATF has put out an unstable ROM, but it's great that he is willing to spend so much time make it better. I wonder what it would cost us to have such a ROM custom made.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
Actually, it's another hybrid... 19971 (AT&T stock) and 20764. Technically the builds are older, but I'm incorporating a bunch of updated drivers from the 21xxx builds, so we should benefit from performance and stability.

So far, nothing major has been reported. Only small stuff that can be fixed very easily as soon as I get home.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
I charge 2,000 Bison Dollars per hour.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sguerra923:
NATF those people at your job still giving you problems with bringing your laptop to work? You sure you don't want me to "talk" to them if you know I mean.. :D ... any new programs you adding in the rom? or is it a surprise? :cool:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
Nothing major being added to this version; just squashing the bugs.

WMP no longer crashing

HTC Volume Control no longer lagging

HTC Volume Control defaults to System

OCN no longer crashing / causing phone to reboot

LiveMesh working great (on the first try ;))

...and a few others...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Now thats an old school reference.:D

Rom looks like its coming along good man. Keep up the good work :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rareness4:
He hasn't according to my phone. My phone never had any major problems with any of his ROMs and I've been using his roms since the tilt days. Always been stable. I agree with you, its nice to see that the kinks are getting worked out.

AT&T would probably charge a monthly fee to get rom updates like we do on the XDA lol.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sguerra923:
Sounds good... thanks again for the great work NATF! It's going to be interesting when the full version of WM 6.5 comes out ohhh did you happen to build HTC Weather Master 1.0.b1 into 4.2?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sguerra923:
Do you take "Sonic BOom" Credit Cards??? :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] htcfan78:
I am running into a recurring problem with my Fuze. I am running NATF's v4.1, and quite frequently when I slide the keyboard in or out, whatever app I have running (IE: messaging) minimizes. Not sure if it's a software conflict, but it's rather irritating. Has anyone else experienced this?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bpm2000:
hmm i was gonna flash a new rom today at work but i guess ill stick with it til tonight and flash 4.2! that list of fixes got me.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] shimbob:
I get this too at times, especially when when I press the 'Reply' softbutton then slide out the keyboard. If I slide it out too soon, the landscape tf3d screen comes up instead. No problem if I wait until it's ready for my email reply and then slide the keyboard out.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
I've just received confirmation that the GPS is working great even with AGPS (it is still disabled by default).

I also changed the Comm Manager to include a 3G toggle, and it once again works to turn on/off the data connection. (Credit for this goes to aruppenthal)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kennyb123:
I had that problem - it isn't a problem with NATF's ROM, it's a problem with something you installed.

I know, because after I uninstalled it, it went away.

Now...to remember what it was!

My first guess is that it's the S2U2 program. (Slide To Unlock 2)

I *MAJORLY UPGRADED* to a paid program called "Pocket Shield" and I've never looked back. (what's 12 dollars for the ultimate slide-to-unlock program?)

*shameless plug*
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] techman28:
What version of net CF come on NATF v4.1? Is it v3.5.7283?

Hey NATF do you use any kind of screen locking software? Do you use S2U2, Pocket Shield, something else?

Thanks.

EDIT: Oh ya, I second that you include HTC Weather Master 1.0.b1 in your roms because it looks awsome, and has a way to automatically restore your custom cities, which is currently a hassle to do every time I reflash or hard reset my phone.

Thanks again.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tassadar898:
Thanks so much sorry for the delay been busy with class/work
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] htcfan78:
Mine does that regardless of how long I wait to slide out the keyboard. A soft reset will usually fix it for a short while. I'm really thinking that it is a software conflict. I suspect that it is either the custom taskbar icons or the Fuzeberry theme, and I hate to have to uninstall either one of those.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kennyb123:
*COUGH*

Didn't you see my reply?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tassadar898:
aww the cab you posted for the HTC album fix removed the green fuzz i was getting in htc youtube and album but it made it realllyy laggy, about 2-3 framers per sec. any thoughts?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] pbratton:
Good Grief man!

Why make more messages for you to field with an unstable release.

I say STABLE ROMS!!!

Don't serve it up until YOU are happy with it, we can wait.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tassadar898:
wow no respect for the chef, tsk tsk... he can do whatever he wants lol, if you dont like what he does dont flash his work.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
No one has said there would be an unstable release. Where do you guys get this stuff?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kennyb123:
One might argue that constant WMP crashes would constitute an unstable release.

One might argue the opposite...

It sounds to me like 4.2 is going to be the ultimate release in regards to speed, reliability, and application compatibility. SCHWEET!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] DrzNight:
NATF took a vote to have it released yesterday with minor bugs or today(he actually said later on) on a new build with more stability and more compatibility with other apps.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
One might, but I have almost 4 GB of mp3s and NEVER did WMP ever crash while playing any of them. I only had 4.1 boot on me once while using it. It's more stable than XP is.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] godashram:
i'd wait the extra day for better compatibility....
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] htcfan78:
I did see your reply. Just didn't have a chance to respond yet. (something about being married and having 3 kids makes a person a little distracted). Ummmmm, where was I? Oh yeah. I do not use S2U2, so I'm sure that is not the problem. As I said, I think it's either the taskbar icons or Fuzeberry. Another thing i noticed is that sometimes when it minimizes the running app, it will open the phone app. Wierd??????
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] shimbob:
I saw it, but I am not running anything other than the stock v4.1 rom. Sure, I have some things installed but nothing additional that alters the tf3d/Today screens.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Jdilla:
I have to very strongly agree. I absolutly think this is a very stable rom already. I havent run quite 4GB of music, but close (other space for movies on sd card) and never had any boot or crash or anything bad at all....period. the one sms bug where it likes to suggest stuff to you while typing but thats it. nothing major. and furthermore id like to know how so many people are having all these problems that ive never come close to encountering... its odd
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dlweston:
Is somebody testing OCN8?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
Yes, it had a few small bugs and maybe some big bugs. But 4.1 is very stable.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
This is why I don't include htcmdp.dll in the ROM, but install it as a CAB instead. It fixes HTC Album, but adversely effects other programs. :(

I believe so.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Superguy:
Just curious: has a volume booster ever been included in a build? I haven't found a reliable way to boost the earpiece volume (ring could be louder too ... seems quiet compared to other phones), and the one I did (replacing a csv file) didn't seem to work.

Super