yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Emblema:
Hi people, very's compliment for job.

I'm change my trascend SD card (8gb class 4) whit one HAMA card (detusch card I dont know class) 1GB and work all (off ram) receive a call and make a call (no sound on any) signal it's ok, pacman it's partial ( :-) ) very fast graphical gui, soft button (return back) work fine, soft button (home) work fine, soft button (green telephon) work fine, soft button (red button) locked a pad (work fine for me), sms work fine, volume buttons up/down not working, off button not working.

Another compliment, is very good job.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] akzent:
Hm, interesting. I tried that, but on my device I could not execute the cab because I got the missing certificate message. The same was true for almost any other application or cab I tried to run except the built in ones. So there was no way for me to e.g. run a registry editor. I even tried writing my own windows mobile application, signed it and installed the certificate I used manually on the device. Still I got the same error messages...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] pichurri:
Yeah, you have to do a hard reset first...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] akzent:
Ok, so there is no known solution yet, that does not involve a hard reset at some point...?

Also, do I understand correctly that just doing a hard reset alone did not solve the problem for you?

I always thought that doing a hard reset completely wipes your internal memory, including the registry where these security policies are located. So how is this possible?

Also I updated the wiki to include this problem in the known issues section. Feel free to correct it, if you believe that there is something missing.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] pichurri:
You have to do a hard reset, which will erase everything you have in your phone, a good thing to do before, would be to save your contacts, :P. Then the first thing after the hard reset, install Default_Signed_DisableSecurity.CAB, that will prevent the "not signed app" problem from happening afterwards.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] imtiyazee:
Feedback on Cupcake

Dear friends,

I went through all the posts before i made up my mind to go ahead with the new Android compiled cupcake, just to confirm that after i used these new files i have installed some 3-4 cab files and never faced any problem of any sort with installation or running of any previously installed programs. I'm currently using KWBR rom 3.4.1

:):):)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nova_vx:
hi guys,

i can't download 1.0 from

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlackstoneLinux#Runningx20.Androidx20.1x2e.0

this link android_cupcake_2009-03-10.zip is not 57mb but few kb...

why?

thanks a lot
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] superfuffo:
That just happened to me too, but i clicked the link again and now it's downloading fine...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] pisiiki:
About Blackstone Touchscreen

Do you think guys that the blackstone touchscreen may support multitouch? I don't know too much about hardware but may it be possible that it is just that windows mobile doesn't support it? Maybe it is possible to get the data in linux.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] pichurri:
Even if the hw supports it (and it probably does), but Android doesn't, so I there is not much use...at least not now.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ahmarchi:
wow i jsut tried out the 3/10 release as my first boot win android.... WORKED FLAWLESS...... nothing went wrong, did not have to caliubrate it, and booted perfectly.... would be nice to see a 100% port int he future and dump WM for good hehe loved it on my HD... will be showcasing it at work to all the iphone noobies tomm.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Stormgale:
Is there a way to make the cupcake version boot from the internal storage? I am an unfortunate owner of a class 4 sd card (:)), but I would like to try the new version without buying a new card.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] 1337_V1k1n6:
Multitouch..

Check this out: http://www.trustedreviews.com/mobil...Android-Multi-touch-Capable--Just-Disabled/p1

and

http://modmygphone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13351

:cool:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dazza9075:
i cant get the thing to work at all, internal storage, 8GB Class 4 sandisk, 2 GB class unknown (not printed on it) sandisk

this is somewhat enoying i have to say, internal storage at the very least should work
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Glideh:
My just bought brand new Sandisk 4Go Class 2 works fine with Android cupcake.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] newtonthecat:
a new card costs less than €10 !!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] DrDistorzion:
hi folks

I have tried both the 2009-03-03 version and now the cupcake 2009-03-10.

It works very well to be in a such early stage!

But I noticed something that I wonder if you have too, when running android, the unit gets quite hot as if it's using the radio at full power.

Anyone got any idea what the radio is doing? :P I have tried both with and without SIM-card and it gets hot both ways.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] imtiyazee:
I agrre

Dear DrDistorzion.

I agree with you, i felt the same.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jenshamren:
I just have a few questions about andriod, they may be stupid but i don't know ^^

First is the colors.. Since windows mobile only supports 65k colors will android support more colors or are the HD restricted to 65k colors..

Anothers question is if the white coloring is improved using android (they look yellowish on the HD atm)

sorry if these were completely retarded questions, i just had to ask :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] pisiiki:
Yes I was asking because a I have seen some posts from android developers discussing the api for mutitouch.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] excogitation:
does it make a difference if wifi is dis-/enabled in win?

(on Polaris the screen gets hot when wifi is enabled in win when booting Android)

just a thought.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dazza9075:
Wifi makes this device cook! woudnt imagin phone network transmition strength could be boosted to that degree

Is their any development on this SD card issue, or is the "fix" go buy a new one that may or may not work.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] DrDistorzion:
I tried to turn wifi off, and it doesn't get nearly as hot!

I have another problem, now when I boot android a message appears that says:

"System UIDs Inconsistent

UIDs on the system are inconsistent, you need to wipe your data partition or your device will be unstable."

Does this refer to the SD-card itself, or does android use a file on the SD-card as storagespace at this stage? This message did not appear at the begining, it's apeard after say something like 10 boots.

And when running, "android.process.acore" keeps crashing.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] funk1980:
:eek:

Check your battery status in WM, use android for a while, reset your HD and check your battery in WM again. Voila, a massive battery drain :). Thats the heat you're feeling. It's known to thedevelopers as far as I know, so it will probably be fixed in the future
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dazza9075:
tried another SD card today any finally it worked!

so a

2GB Class 4 sandisk single partition didnt work

8GB Class 4 Sandisk Single partition didnt work

but finally

8GB Class 2 Sandisk Single partiton DID work, thank buggery for that.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bonesy:
i cant get it too boot?how do ya check the partition is primary?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobdude5:
which android did you try? i tried a transcend 8gb class 6 and a sandisk 8gb class 6 and it didnt work :( its really bugging me :(..it worked for me on the android 1.0 but the not the cupcake one located on the wiki
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] body85:
tryed out with a brand new Kingston 8GB Class4... worked :-)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dazza9075:
aye, it was the cupcake version that eventually worked on the card, i have no clue why only differnce i can see is the class numbers
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] pzucchel:
FYI, i am not experiencing this issue with DavidUck V2. The settings for the signed certificate disable security cab are probably performed in an OEM package before the kitchen is applied.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] pzucchel:
i got the same. i copied again the kernel and the e2fs filesystems and ...voila'! it worked again...:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] furrypotato:
So my main question now is - what next ?

It all seems quiet on the developers topic now. Looking at the Diamond/Raphael wiki it's pretty quiet too with no major new developments for a while.

At this pace it will a long, long time before we get a usable version, like they have on the Vogue. Anyone fancy sending a free HD to Martin (dzo), who almost single handedly developed android for that phone ;)

If any developers want to explain what they are all working on now, I would be grateful and it might keep us all quiet here :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
Dzo is busy with Kaiser a.t.m.

I'm in Barcelona, If I was in Netherlands, I could get Touch HD's for 300 euros new. :(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] orux:
7xxx processor has two processors: main arm11, where linux runs; arm9 modem, where amss OS runs.

There are a lot of things that depend on arm9 processor side; sound, for example. Arm11 comunicates with arm9 through shared memory.

We have linux kernels with support for 6210, 6220, 6225 amss versions (arm9 operating system), but blackstone has another amss version (I think). Amss is inside radio packet.

Vogue has a 6210 amss version (I think). Then was easy give it full support in linux.

What we need/expect:

-google/htc support in linux kernels for blackstone amss.

-mapping/tunneling comunications between arm11 and arm9. It won't be easy (I think).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] furrypotato:
Thanks for the update. What are the chances of HTC or google giving us what we need ? Could this be forthcoming in newer HTC Android models this year, if we are lucky ?

Or will the devs be able to manage it all ?

Thanks for the update anyway, it's good to understand whats going on.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] orux:
Google is adding support for new models (sapphire, for example) in android git repository. Perhaps this device, or others, have a more (or totaly) compatible amss interface.

And there are people working on raph/diam too. Those devices have the same amss than blackstone.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
Orux, here the dump of the HTC Sapphire: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=494533
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Stormgale:
So has this dump lead to anything yet? And how is development coming along in general?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
The dump is being checked by the Dream developers.

The developement from here I don't know.

Havn't been online for 2 weeks. So I',ma check this weekend, what it do.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] imtiyazee:
Wait n Watch

Thanks Dude for informing us about the development by other team, will wait for the result.:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dogmood:
http://www.htc.com/www/support/android/adp.html

There are some files for download like firmware...not sure if useful to this project...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Stormgale:
Thanks for letting us know. It is nice to know what is going on, when you are eagerly following this project ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bonesy:
answer for the heat...Turn off gps on android settings, Mine runs cool now.One other thing.....Does anyone get sound while running cupcake?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] idandush:
i am running the last cupcake and i dont have sound .

also i didnt get the heat that much , but i dont use it for long , i go back to WM after a few minutes .

if we had sound , i could probably use it for calls , and thats a start ... :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] imtiyazee:
Break the Ice !

Come on guys. where r u, at least discuss the issues if ur working on it. Perhaps one of us could give our suggestions else will appreciate ur work.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] patp:
i think orux is currently working on sound/radio. it's a slow business, every problem involves reverse engineering using quite basic tools because we have no real documentation. inevitably progress goes in fits and starts.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bl@ck:
yeah, also raphael/diamond team is working on sound so it's a common problem.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dusty_nz:
APP Store

Just curious. If this rom gets completed and usable on a daily basis will it be able to access the APP Store. I already see that the Dev G1 is blocked from downloading files. whats the case with this?

Due to reduced security on the phone.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bonesy:
if u get the sam2 apk and connect through usb it sometomes displays market for me?im getting my mate to install apps on his sdcard so i can steal them will post asap :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
Hmzzz,, Thats something good to talk about.

I really don't know.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xaoc747:
Xmoo!

Can you upload last working Android for Touch HD!? And what manipulation I must make to see "working" Android!?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
http://www.gavero.com/pichurri/blackstone/android_cupcake/android_cupcake_2009-03-10.zip

This is the latest
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xaoc747:
Just un-zip to storage card and run??? Or...?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
jup, See wiki for more info!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xaoc747:
I make all like in wiki and no effect! Android 7.825053 cannot find/system/bin/sh' , disabling 'console'...... Just soft reset help!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jim256:
Lets be a little more patient. As

nothing

more than random people hoping to get to try Android on our devices, we have

no

right to say "come on guys. where are you..."

They are working, they are trying. We can ask absolutely nothing more. And even if they weren't trying...we would

still

have no right to be the least bit upset.

Accessing the Market should not be a problem.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] imtiyazee:
Hi there,

Just to remind you, this is a forum and as a member one can express his/her feelings just as you did, so don't talk about rights and wrongs here. We all appreciate every piece n bit contributed by one and all and will keep on doing that. So take a chill pill..:):p:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] banzro:
Howto compile Android compleatly incuding kernel etc...

Hello,

I have my working Eclipse envoronment with the new 1.1 Android working. I can also modify certain code but now I'm searching a step by step guide wow to compile my zImage, and system file to get my own android compiled from a to z...

I will then try to give some hand with development of new drivers....

Many Thanks to post some more detailed help for me

Roman
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jim256:
Well of course, and I expected this response. I just think "come on guys. where are you" is just a little heavy...and I responded a little heavy :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dwaradzyn:
The best starter place is WIKI page: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlackstoneLinux
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] banzro:
Follow up

Yes, I did that bot not realy working (git problems to checkout stuff for Kernel)

i startet to followup this thread!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=490374&page=2

Thanks anyway

Roman
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobdude5:
on an android phone like the g1 the applications are stored in the root of the phone not the sd card and that goes with the paid apps in the market..dev g1's have root access so they would be able buy the applications from the market dig into their phone and pull out the applications and make a copy then just uninstall the orginal app and get a full refund within 24 hours and the reinstall the copy they made..i had a rooted g1 before my touch hd :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Berry29tm:
hey guys have you got news?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
Orux is currently working on the sound.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xaoc747:
Xmoo help please! I don't understand how to start android!?!?!:( All wiki I've read...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
Put files on sd card, start Haret.exe and press run. that easy!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Glideh:
.................
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
Extract the zip to sd card.

You will see a folder called TMP (Storage Card\TMP)

Browse in TMP and you will see BOOT (Storage Card\TMP\BOOT)

In the BOOT folder you will see: Default.txt, Haret.exe, initrd.cpio, zImage)

If you don't see the 4 files, ur download was corrupted!!!

If you see the 4 files, open HaReT and press "Run".

Now we patient, linux boots and then Android.

Enjoy!!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Looks very entriguing. I've scanned through the development thread and the wiki as well as this and I must admit I'm tempted to put andriod on my phone. I know there is still a lot to iron out, and for that reason I'm going to hold off for the min. Obviously it is a work in progress and a lot of hard work has gone into it and still is.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xaoc747:
so I see:

ANDROID [ 7.9645191 init: cannot find/system/bin/sh', disabling 'console' .... etc... What to do???
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
Just wait, and if it stays there, soft-reset and try again!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xaoc747:
How long to wait?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
1min. And if it does not boot android.

Soft-reset and try again!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xaoc747:
Not running! 3-5 time soft reset...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] body85:
what kind of SD card u have?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xaoc747:
Transcend microSDHC4 - 8GB
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] body85:
PLZ!!! read the thread.... TRANSCEND CARDS NOT WORKING.....
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xaoc747:
Why? For a name?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] body85:
in this thread are more than 20 posts only over the Transcend problem.... we dont know why but Transcend cards dont worked...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xaoc747:
But before for me was possible to run early versions of Android!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] body85:
run from the SD card or from the main folder?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] brumbrum:
Android freeze after 2-5 minutes of usage.

Is there any solution to this, or is there anyone else that is experience these problems?

Using Dutty2.3, and Radio 1.13.25.24.

Hard to try to test things and start to develop things to/on the device if it freeze after some minutes.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] body85:
test, if u set the display timeout higher, u solved the problem.... i hope so :-)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] brumbrum:
How do I do this more exactly? Is it possible to change in any file so I dont have to do it every time I boot Android?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] body85:
in android u just have go to the settings and then to display there u can set the timeout time :-)

or test this... is u push ure button on the top (the button who makes the screen black) if android freeze the problem is the timeout if not... hmpf....
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] brumbrum:
Timeout is set to Never, and the device freeze anyway.

If I press the "hangup-button", the screen goes black, and it is possible to unlock the screen again, so I dont think the problem is the screen-timeout.

Any other suggestion?

I get sponsered by the company I work for (as a developer) to work on developing Android, and that is both applications and porting the system to work on other devices. I only get some hours each week, but it could be enough.

If I am able to get this working I can start contribute to the development, and I REALLY want to be able to create a flashable image of android to work on the Touch HD. :-)

If/When I get something to work I will put the code here :-).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xaoc747:
From SD Card
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobdude5:
its not working for me i never get past the blackscreen with all the commands..its stop at some part saying command not found or command timeout i cant remember and it just sits there.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] body85:
okok...which version did u load? i mean the older version the ONRAM or OFFRAM version????
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
Wich brand sd card??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] body85:
can anyone write in the Wiki that Transcend cards not working?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] patp:
Yes. That's the point of Wikis. So...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jacare:
I have a Transcend microSDHC6 8Gb and Android 1.0 is booting...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Glideh:
I think your card is well formatted
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] body85:
the actual offram version version is working if u starting from the sd card?!?!!?!?!?!?!?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vengence_angels:
hi..

is there a mirror for the files on post 1?..

i cant download from rapidshare
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobdude5:
not sure i bough it on ebay..but i think sandisk because it came with a sandisk sd card reader..but the actual sd card just says micro sdhc class 6 8gb
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Berry29tm:
hey guys have u any news?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Stormgale:
Whenever I try to download the kernel from the git repository, the terminal goofs up.

After some messages the blinking white marker returns, but the "user"@"computername":~$ thingy is gone and none of the following commands that I enter have any effect. Does anyone know, what could be causing this?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MrRalphMan:
Nice one, I've just tried the version off the first post and after a couple of reset's I was up and running in Andriod.. Well up any way as the phone seemed to freeze, but hey it seems to be progressing very nicely.

Cheers all.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nova_vx:
Ciao Berry,

pensi che riusciranno mai a fare il porting?

sai se in giro nel web c'è qualcunaltro si sta occupando del blackstone?

la tua rom è in ITA?

Grazie.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] masr:
Oh sorry, I can speak english but I was so lost in thoughts that I did not realize that I was writing in german, hahaha :-D

I asked if there is a video on youtube, which shows the Version of Debian on the HTC Touch HD. I want to see it without having to download it.

masr
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] body85:
Wtf????

Only english plz!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Glideh:
At least try to put the translation below
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmoo:
There is a video of this guy running Debian on his Touch HD.

Haben sie die link?

Do you have the link.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] oNNoZeLe:
the german post is asking if there is a video..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mredz:
Adnroid on HD

Can I firstly say you guys are legends. Loving android on the HD!

I'd like to put up a bounty $50 for working GPRS on Android.

Anyone else wanting to contribute?