yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
I'm signed up using my Windows Live ID, and I installed the Mesh software on my PC. But all I see for "mobile" is "coming soon".
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] danbutter:
For what it is worth Live search (not mesh) made my fuze crash and soft reset itself after trying to get some directions just yesterday.

Still running 2.1 here though so it isn't related to the newer OS version.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tadevinney:
live mesh

wonder if this is what killed my fuze yesterday. Had Live mesh added to my phone all was working great on Saturday and on sunday I lost all messaging functions and Voice Command stopped working. Only fix I could find was a hard reset :( ... life is good again.. oh and this was on NATF 4.0
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] reluttr:
It is orange on the start menu and homescreen htc task manager. I also would like to note that I installed the "restore curtins" cab, Im not sure if its the rom or the cab doing it :S
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] viperez:
What's the word!

I currently have my Fuze with the stock OS. I'm very interested in NATF's ROM. I use my phone for business and so Exchange Email & Texting are crucial for me. From reading this thread it seems that there MAY be an issue with these features. Can someone clarify if these are glaring issues or could I live with the bugs for now?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] reluttr:
I havent had any issues with exchange. But I do not have a textying plan so I havent tried to text yet.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] CR7KB24:
Texting works pefect on my Fuze :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dlweston:
Hey NATF,

I have and use OCN8. When you get close, let me know. I would be happy to test v4.2 to see if it resolves the OCN8 issue. All I have to do is flash and test OCN8. It will most likely work. I then will have to create a partnership and test again to confirm it still works.

If you read some of the earlier posts, one user reformatted his MicroSD card, put OCN8 back on the card and reinstalled the ROM. OCN8 worked fine then. It was only after he created a partnership with Vista's Mobile Device Center that OCN8 started crashing and rebooting his Fuze.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rmilanov:
FWIW, I'm running 4.1 and none of my GPS programs will run w/o crashing and resetting. They all crash and reset as soon at they seem to do the GPS draw/routing.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] josbald1975:
Live Mesh

Oct 31, 2008 WMExperts.com:

You'll have to download a new build of the application, which you can get at m.mesh.com/install/wm6/LiveMesh.cab from a mobile or desktop browser.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mbze430:
REQ: Calendar Tab and Call History Tab for next version

I wanted to make a request(if possible) to add the Calendar Tab and Call History Tab in to Manilla 3D on the next ROM (Lite and Standard) release?

Also add	mUn BackGround4AllPages to your lite and standard rom.

That said, anyone know if I can add it NOW instead of waiting?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mbze430:
Another note for the Chef.

I don't know if this is any useful information. I am using your Lite version ROM. Using Garmin XT Mobile v8 with ONLY A-GPS enable(from the default Windows Mobile settings)... NO QuickGPS or another form of 'software' A-GPS.

and it WORKS BEAUTIFULLY. I ALWAYS get a lock within 7-10sec even the HTC GPS Tool 1.2.2.17 (Cold (30-35sec) or Hot Start). I can see Garmin Mobile and HTC GPS Tool access Data (by the change of the icon when the icon display no current data connection to data connection) every time I run it.

SO... whatever you do.... keep those software assisted GPS out of your Lite rom :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mbze430:
Device Information shows ExtPkg Version: Fail_Pkg

Just a heads up.... I don't think this effects anything (from what I read from other forums thread)

But the Lite rom does show up with the ExtPkg Version: Fail_Pkg_OpenPackageBy...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] clavace:
OCN8 Test with NATF v 4.2 Beta

NATF: I do not use Live Mesh so I cannot give any advice about it...I just noticed that both OCN8 & Live Mesh had same problem with latest build.

I would be most happy however to test a Beta Release of v4.2 for you with OCN8.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] systematicdecline:
I set my caller id to contacts only. and a couple of my contacts, when i call them, it comes up restricted or says unregistered. Any ideas?

Also i live in a mostly edge area. is there a way to turn off 3G to Edge just while im at home? Sorry if this had been discussed but i could not find a answer.

And thanks again for the awesome build and hard work!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] TheWebMachine:
The only issue I've had with Live Mesh (I am very much attached to it. :)) is the occasional problem of it "exiting" immediately as it is first loading...in which case I just SReset and it usually loads right up. I'm running the most recent build as of 1/12/08. And, yes, I use Vista Mobile Device Center to sync my device and still have no problems with it. I'll play around with the partnership and such and see if I can recreate your problem.

I believe that the only other usable start-up location besides \windows\startup is HKLM\init. You can find additional information about that here:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb202743.aspx

...and here, in greater detail:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa915408.aspx

The pages indicates that they're for Embedded CE 6 but they also apply to WM6 and WM6.1.

Yes, you need the invite. I accomplished this by trolling the MSDN blogs and finding a dev that posted the invite/activation link, which still worked despite the public tech preview being closed for the time being...but since Da_G has the power to invite you directly, just give him your email addy and he'll hook you up.

That was back when the Public Tech Preview was still open...simply downloading from that link will not automatically enable it on your Live Mesh account anymore. You need the invite link or be directly invited by Da_G or someone of his prowess. I'm currently attempting to relocate that MSDN blog to share with the class. :cool: [EDIT] Links found...see the end of this post.[/EDIT]

You can disable all 3G connectivity using DiamondTweak. And I think that the selective caller ID blocking requires some degree of support from the carrier...I've never gotten it working with AT&T or T-Mobile with the Fuze or the TYTN II. In my case, it would block ID for every call, regardless of the existence of a contact.

----------

On a lighter note... I'M OFFICIALLY A SENIOR MEMBER NOW! WOOT! Yeah, I know it is an automatic "promotion"...but it's nice to receive the official acknowledgment of my tireless efforts. :p

[EDIT]

I found the direct invite links for enabling Live Mesh Mobile on your account. Click the appropriate link below, sign in with your LiveID, and you’ll be redirected to the device ring where you’ll see a link to “Use Live Mesh for mobile devices.”:

US Residents: https://www.mesh.com/Web/Promo.aspx?pcode=Mob_FCFS1

UK Residents: https://www.mesh.com/Web/Promo.aspx?pcode=Mob_FCFS12

Now, the MSDN blog I got this from does indicate that the Mobile Preview is full in both locations, but it worked just fine for me when I did it last week.

[/EDIT]
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] aonavy:
so far so good for v4.0. this is my first cooked rom. :) im only have one issue though. Cant get internet working (edge/3g), wifi works great. I turned of hspa or whatever it was, thought maybe that was it. still nope any help please
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] cheunglh:
Unlocking

Can I still unlock my phone after flashing to the NATF rom?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
Thank you for this information. I will figure this out before I die.

Yes, you can.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] aonavy:
i ran the disableproxy cab and ie works..not opera. i unchecked the proxy in opera:config..no luck
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] aonavy:
I seem to have gotton opera to work by deleteing the info in opera:config http> setting

i did run speed test to check the speed. Im connected to 3g but only getting 278kb/sec at 400kb. does that sound right? seems slow
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
Under \Windows\StartUp, there are five shortcuts Each shortcut contains one line of text in the following format. What significance does the two digit integer have? How is it decided in what order each shortcut is ran? My goal is to find a way to have a script to copy cemail.vol before it gets locked.

AutoShortcut

35#"\Windows\AutoShortcut.exe"

HTCStartUP

30#"\Windows\HTCStartUp.exe"

PKG

50#"\Windows\PKG.exe"

poutlook

21#:MSPOUTLOOK

Voice Command

49#"\Windows\VoiceCmd.exe" -min ​
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] aonavy:
enabled the hsdpa/hsupa and the speed jumpto 730kb at 1mb.:)

does anyone know if this a feature that att can charge you for? not 100% sure
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] gunshy73:
Shortcuts

The number refers to the length of the command.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/embedded/aa731295.aspx
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] CIPuyleart:
This "Live Mesh" thing has me intrigued...I'm going to have to try it out. Thanks TWM.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] aonavy:
all i have to say is this rom is crazy quick. Im only using v4.0 right now and I love it. After a few tweaks it runs like BEAST!!!:p

tHANKS ALOT.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sguerra923:
Does anyone have problems with 4.1 freezing at times and I notice when I woke up this morning my phone froze to a white screen.. just curious if anyone has similar issues with 4.1? I didnt have issues 3.2 like that..
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
That's weird. Just look at the examples, they don't follow that rule..
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ace0007:
I did have an issue with my phone on 4.1 the other day where I woke up and the screen looked like snow on a TV screen when the signal is lost. Rebooting it brought it back. Is that what you saw.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
I would speculate that the numbers may be referring to the line # in initflashfiles.dat. That is the file responsible for creating all of the initial shortcuts you see.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sguerra923:
yeah.. I thought I was in Alaska! j/p.. yeah did a soft reset but just worried since I use my phone for an alarm clock..
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] JoeTheFro:
No. I have been using H speeds from ATT for the last few months and they dont seem to know/care. So, no new charges.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
Buger,

Just when I thought I might have found a clue.

Is there an order in which links in StartUp are ran? If so, how his this determined?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] whosy11:
Use AEB to handle PTT

I too would really like to be able to use AE button plus to handle the PTT button. The PTT button does show up in AEB's list of buttons, and I have mapped actions to the triple press. The only thing that happens is that the single press action gets triggered 3 times. Anyone have any suggestions?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] consultant1027:
Restore Data/Apps After ROM Upgrade

I just installed 4.1 ROM within 10 minutes of getting the phone. Based on my years and years of experience with mobile devices and the constant mentioning in reviews of all the AT&T JUNK on this phone, this was a no brainer. Thanks NATF!

One thing I'm concerned about is having to reinstall all the apps and configure them after a future ROM upgrade. Has anyone verified if the new SPB Backup doesn't cause problems after a restore, after a ROM upgrade? Is this the only program that will do it? I know the phone comes with Sprite backup. Maybe 4.1 will be good enough for the life of the phone? But then I'm a sucker for constant improvements.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
There is a rather simple way. Read about User Customization in the second post of this thread.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] aonavy:
good question. I hate to install and reconfig all the programs. it takes forever. I like to run a backup..then cook..the restore. That would be awsome
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] consultant1027:
PTT Remap?

There seems to be some confusion/lack of clarity regarding remapping the PTT button on the NATF ROM (I have 4.1).

Zapit doesn't seem to work.

Ideally, I'd like one short press to open the start menu, two short presses to close the app, and one long press to launch voice command.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] techman28:
What is the easiest and best way to be able to change the TF3D wallpaper on all tabs on NATF's rom???

Thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sguerra923:
Yeah I was curious about that too? Anyone know?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] aonavy:
mUn BackGround4AllPages v.02.cab

disbale tf3d install cab then enable tf3d.

make sure u disable tf3d before install
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] nextascy:
It is highly not recommened to use any backup programs that backup registry and programs. PHM backup is your best bet as far as personal data is concern. The reasoning behind this is, backing up program files and registry, depending on the program that is included with the rom you're flashing with, may cause problems, file conflict, version issue, registry issue, etc, which will usually lead to an unstable flash.

Learn to use UC (user customization). If you want to save preferences on each program, your best bet is install to SD card, usually, your prefences will be saved there and when you reinstall the program, it will retain.

Basically, there is no easy way that I know of.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sstrunks:
This might be a stupid question to ask but...does anyone know how to reset the theme back to the default NATF originally set? I accidently changed the theme to windows default and when I went to change it to what I thought was NATF default "htc_black" I get a light gray start bar and the gray bottom bar instead of the dark black bars like seen in the screen shots for this rom.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
Someone else asked that a few days ago and NATF posted the answer here.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] techman28:
I have 2 questions, first is: has anyone tried mUn BackGround4AllPages v.02.cab with NATF's v4.1 ROM? Does it work well?

And second @ NATF - I asked this a little while back and I dont think you ever replied, but is there any time frame for when v4.2, or whatever the next release is called, will be released?

Thanks in advance.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sstrunks:
I already search this thread using obvious keywords such as "theme" "touchflo" and even narrowed it down by NATF user name. I just need a little bit of help finding the post he posted this answer to. I don't even need anyone to re-write the post or anything, just tell me the post number or something. Telling me he posted the answer already doesn't help me or anyone, and I get it your trying to tell me to search but I already have and I cannot find it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] aonavy:
im using it on v4.0 no prob. im sure it works fine on the rest.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
Read post 1108
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
No, what I am telling you is that the answer is here and it was just a few days ago. I am also telling you I don't have time to search for it. But maybe there is someone here and their time is less valuable than yours.

Okay, I lied, this might me what you are looking for: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3080808&postcount=2040
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rareness4:
I use SPB backup to restore my stuff when I upgrade to a new ROM and I've had no problems with it. Matter of fact SPB backup has a feature called "ROM Upgrade Mode" where it recognizes that the phone has switched to another ROM and restores the backup accordingly. It's been really great.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] aonavy:
huh. might have to look into that. what vers. do you have so i make sure I get the right one.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rareness4:
The latest one, v2.0.1. You can go to their website for more info.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] aonavy:
i got it..thanks. ill try it out. do just save the backup on the sd card?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rareness4:
Yea best place to put it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] aonavy:
okay thanks..
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] aonavy:
I have 2.1 but dont see "rom upgrade mode".
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rareness4:
There's nothing on there that says "rom upgrade mode", its just a built in feature. Just run your backup. Setup up your UC or Sashimi to run the spb program and the backup. A screen should pop-up about the rom upgrade and press continue and it should be set up.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] aonavy:
do you back up the sd card as well? I have programs on there too.

:o
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
You don't to back up the SD card as it does not get overwritten when a new ROM is installed.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] iceman4357:
NATF- Something pretty cool you might wanna look into:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=472231
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kennyb123:
Not only that, but if you follow ROM installation instructions posted all over XDA, you know that you're supposed to take out the SD card before you flash a new ROM.

(Not for you gary, for the previous poster.)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] aonavy:
i do take the sd out. make sense now. thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] godashram:
wow... just moved from a tilt (with naft's rom) to the fuze, now with naft's rom less than 15 minutes afyer opening it! so far i love it, but do have a few small issues.... the music tab sometimes slows to a crawl (2-3gb of music a 16gb sd card) and i've had the phone reboot using windows media player and wmv files... mpegs no issue so far, but randomly loading 1 wmv after a smaller one finishes playing will reboot it.

also, the htc album sometimes loads to a blank screen.... all i see is the top start bar, so i have to hit start, today, then close album. sometimes i have to do it 2-3 times before everything works fine.

other than that, eagerly awaiting the net rom!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] reluttr:
How do you change the colors of highlighted items on the today screen?

It only seems to do it on the today screen and when I have touchflo 3d enabled, but when I highlight item in the start menu or todayscreen task manager it is orange instead of the black/grey gradient you get when touchflow is disabled.

Anyone know how I can change the color?

On NATF v4.0 Fuze
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
Install this CAB, and soft reset.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] C_X:
Well, this is odd...

First things first...I think NATF's ROMs are great! They are so much better then the bloated stock AT&T ROMs in so many ways.

I'm running 4.1 and I've noticed some strange behavior. First, I use HiCalc and have noticed that when I atttempt to update the Currency Conversion tab, I get an "Unable to Connect: You have no modem entries created, and no network card present" error message. This, in spite of the fact that I am normally able to connect through data networks or WiFi and do anything else network-ish I would expect to be able to do. So, I'll do a soft reset, and after booting up, I'll be faced with a Logon to Server screen where the User Name, Password, and Domain fields are blank. Sometimes this screen will be replaced by a black screen with the HTC logo, sometimes not. Either way, the TouchFlo will not load. All I have is a black screen. The only way to resolve this is to do a hard rest and restore with Sprite. It will then work fine until I do another soft reset or the phone resets itself and I'm back where I started. Very odd. Any ideas? Any other information I might provide to facilitate resolution? Please let me know.

C_X
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sstrunks:
thanks for the help i tried installing what was suggested in the post and when i try to soft reset it still doesnt work. i still got gray bars.

does anyone know how to restore the original black theme/start bars that came with this rom? i tried everything short of reflashing the same rom again.

**MY ORIGINAL POST**

This might be a stupid question to ask but...does anyone know how to reset the theme back to the default NATF originally set? I accidently changed the theme to windows default and when I went to change it to what I thought was NATF default "htc_black" I get a light gray start bar and the gray bottom bar instead of the dark black bars like seen in the screen shots for this rom.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kcnaylor:
Hmm, Msft making something a little more cumbersome - sounds like a plausible theory. FYI, I didn't see this behavior with inbox scrolling in the other ROM I've tried (RRE 4.4 based on the 21014 build), so it may not be intentional on MSft's part.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
Download the CAB file just a few posts above yours. It will change the Start Menu highlighting to gray (instead of orange), and change the bars to deep black.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ANDROiD KiLLSWiTCH:
I used to use sprite backup to reinstall everything because they have a "new ROM restore" option, and I found it worked 95% ok, but there would be some buggy stuff going on, so I was directed to a program called CABviaActiveSync. You install it on your PC, then right click on a CAB file and it will install it through activesync. The beauty of this is that when you flash a new ROM and set up activesync, you just need to go to activesync>tools>add/remove programs, then just check all the ones you want back on your phone.

Sorry no link, but search XDA, its on here somewhere
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tadevinney:
Live Mesh

Just currious if there was any resolve to using Live Mesh on 4.0 or above. Caused my phone to get the flu but really want to use this.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
I installed this CAB on my phone, and sure enough, it opens and immediately closes. :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tadevinney:
live mesh

On 4.0 I was able to open it.. use it.. load to Live Mesh.. Pull From Live mesh.. however on a Battery change and reset the phone went nuts. wouldnt open Voice Command, then no more Messages would open it was almost like a virus. Guess I will hold off on reloading this. thanks boss
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sstrunks:
thanks a lot man, youre the best. ;-)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
The phone doesn't go haywire anymore, it just won't run,

Glad to be of assistance.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] godashram:
I'm not sure if anyone has noticed this.... but the sling software when set to full screen will auto-minimize. open it up again and no full screen... try to full screen it again... autominimize.

besides that, not full screen still works fine.

edit:

seems to be working fine now... strange
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kennyb123:
NotATreoFan

Moderator

Join Date: Jul 2006

Location: Bensalem, PA

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Wow...congrats on 2000 posts!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
So its not working on 4.2 either? If Live Mesh doesn't work with the new ROM, that makes me skeptical that iGO will also continue not to work. Hopefully you can get it working.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] F2a:
Hi, I have one annoyance and I don't know if it's a problem with the rom or what. Whenever I am typing with the on screen keyboard it doesn't work properly in ABC mode. For example I type "I" and it recommends "don't" but I type "can't" and press space it inserts "can'tdont". When I enable T9 it works correctly but the thing is I don't want T9.

With the keyboard in ABC mode it acts like T9 and keeps suggesting works and the grey bar pops up with the word I typed and the + sign on the right as if to add it to my T9 library? It's really annoying. In T9 settings everything is UNchecked.

I just want to type with the keyboard without T9 and not have any of the stuff pop up. Can anyone please tell me what is wrong?