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[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] JazonX:
With other manufacturers surpassing Samsung in the Fold Category, I'd be surprised if there is any interest on the Fold 6. Lately, I feel like Samsung has dropped us to the level of Apple Users where they think they can just release the same phone with 0 innovations, minor hardware updates and expect us to buy it.

OnePlus Open, Honor Magic V, both are excellent contenders in this category people who haven't experienced either are the ones who are still eager to see the Fold 6. Even the messed up Pixel Fold will have all the caveats corrected and ready to rock on the next generation.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] iceepyon:
That is true. The only thing that is keeping with Samsung's Foldables is that the OS has been better optimized on their Foldables. But that should be changing soon as Chinese device manufacturers progress with their designs and software
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] _GRIZZLY_:
My previous device and first fold was Fold 2. I was really happy with him 2 years, and now use my father.

I have fold 5 from 8 months and are great device but isn't effect wow like F2. So if the previous ones and below info confirm 10 july I stay with my F5 to S25 series or F7.

Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 6 dummy leak reveals design tweaks

Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 6 will have a tweaked design and wider cover screen as shown in leaked dummy. The phone is expected to be unveiled on July 10, while the design changes has been revealed through dummy unit’s images. Tipster IceUniverse posted dummy unit’s images of the Galaxy Z Fold 6. It...

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Why?

Because upcoming F6 are only F5 in little other disguise.

Still 4400 mAh battery,

Still same cameras.

Still no Spen inside and probably not support on the front screen (for this last confirn need wait for more info)

Look like still furrow in inside screen.

Only millimeters wider.

More expensive so probably supplement $ to these innovation will be a lot too high.

Samsung are now like Apple but in Android's mind. Minimal innovation and maximum benefits, especially with very good integration samsung's devices with stabil software (like Apple ecosystem). There is always a but... Like know software to older flagships slow but killing great feeling with use (battery, cameras, lags etc) Unfortunately this strategy after years are works but until time. Example Nokia

My upgrade depends supplement to trade in by samsung my F5 but I suppose will be not affordable.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] becosemsaida:
I had a F3 and sold it as soon as i could, battery was a joke, lags for everything and overall experience was very dissapointing. Skipped the F4, got burned with the 3....... Always had "note series" since i need the s-pen. Bought the F5 after seeing the specs and never regretted it. No i am not a "picture guy", no i don't take pictures of the ants on the moon just regular things and lots of "work related" pics. Suits me well for the needs i have but could be better. Battery is ok-ish, lasts a full day with a mix of inner/outer screen, lots of calls and some social media, it's a tool not a gimmick so always on "full power". Still after seeing the new specs and reading about (again) no S-pen integration, a gen3 (same as the S24 Ultra) processor that's not so different from the gen2 i don't see teh more square S6 as an upgrade. If my provider gives me a very good deal on the F6 i might consider but i'm not planning to upgrade.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] Flame Red:
Disappointing!

I usually upgrade, but this time it seems based on that leak Sammy is really providing nothing of significance to justify the premium costs. Yeah, the processor upgrade, perhaps WiFi 7? Sammy best give some killer deals!

I always say to myself that I get a new year of factory warranty when I upgrade. Well not so much! My wife had upgraded to the Sammy Flip and three months later it developed a dark spot on the fold of the inner screen. Sammy refused to pay to replace the screen! Said the problem was not covered by their warrantee!?!?!?! So she traded it in for another phone instead.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] sosimple:
The upgrade is like going from 4 to 5

From 4 to 5 : slightly thicker, slightly bigger outer screen, same battery and probably slightly bigger autonomy.

OK the best reason to upgrade then was the full close of the device.

Now is probably the bigger outer screen.

Exactly the same goes from 5 to 6.

Samsung do very slightly improvement (like apple) so there is slightly reason to go from one generation to next.

But if you have older generation like 4, 3 etc then you have a reason to go to 6.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] _GRIZZLY_:
Even from 4th generation which are similar to 5th upgrade to 6 isn't clear in my opinion and a lot depends from necessary surcharges for this improvements
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] ronaldheld:
Does not seem enough updates to upgrade from a 5.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] iceepyon:
Really, I got the Fold 3 shortly after the specs of the Fold 4 was confirm. I couldn't be happier with my Fold 3. It is an excellent device, I can get a whole days use from it. Yes, I need to give it a quick top up during the middle of day. But the performance was a mazing, I didn't experience any lags in performance at all. I took great pictures with it.

I skipped the Fold 5 as it was only a spec bump on the Fold 4. Which in my opinion wasn't worth the upgrade from my Fold 3. I will probably be upgrading the the Fold 6 this year.

If you have the Fold 5, there is no point in upgrading to the Fold 6 unless you are experiencing issues with the hardware. As the Fold 6 is just a slight spec bump from the Fold 5. You can probably wait until the Fold 7 or 8 to upgrade.

As there is no point in upgrading to a new device every year now, seeing as Samsung will be providing 4 years of major OS upgrades to their flagship devices.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] netnerd:
i already moved to Oneplus Open.

from 20% - 80% in just 20 minutes !

i dont charge often but when i do, i want it to charge fast !
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] mickliq:
Which Fold did you have?

What do you miss, if anything?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] netnerd:
i'm such a nerd or geek.

i used to have S23 Ultra, wanna get a Fold4 to play with, so i bought a used Fold4 on swappa.

then i traded in S23Ultra for Fold5, this is before i knew about the OnePlus Open.

i still have the Fold5, maybe i trade it in on the next upgrade.

traded fold4 for OnePlus Open, i like the bigger outer screen plus i dont have to worry about the phone running low on battery, just charge it for 20 minutes and you have 80% (from 20%)

the samsung fold5 picture quality is better then OnePlus open, the color is more vivid and brighter.

it's nice to have the spen, i mostly use it for taking screenshots and writing on photos, but i dont use it that much.

UPDATE: oneplus open already have android 15 beta but phone will keep crashing if using it on Verizon network, and myQ app wont work on android 15 beta.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] mickliq:
Got it. I will try to be patient and wait for the ZF6 to be released (T Minus 20 days) and compared to the OnePlus Open!
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] iceepyon:
So your OnePlus Open only crashes when operating on Verizon and not any other US network. That is interesting....
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] _GRIZZLY_:
Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6 and Galaxy Z Flip6 dummy units pose for a photoshoot

They could be dummy units, they could be prototypes, the source is confused but the pictures are still useful. Dummy units for Samsung's upcoming Galaxy Z...

www.gsmarena.com

Newer inforamation and look whole device.

In this photos still even deep furrow in inside screen like in previous generation. Of course it's prototype but I don't supposed big difference in this casue.

Lenses land is strange big compare to real lesnes inside.

In my opinion this generation look little clumsily and too square.

And this bold writing "SAMSUNG" . Look like painting, not carved.

So waiting 2,5 week for know everything ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] Arobase404:
I wonder what's the need to comment or talk about a device that DO NOT officially exist yet and why would we comment or talk mostly about RUMORS !!! ^^
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] mickliq:
We're all free to decide what we spend time on. As a gadget (and folding phone) enthusiast I'm exciting about forthcoming products in this segment of the market.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] mickliq:
Flossy on Vivo X Fold 3 global, for those who are interested ->

If this had Samsung software...oh man.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] Flame Red:
Yeah, Sammy loves that this product is embargoed, and won't function in the embargoed markets properly and kills competition so they don't have to significantly improve their product.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] Arobase404:
I'm myself a "gadget (and folding phone) enthusiast" but the way you are talking or criticizing about a non existing device ("boo" or "Disappointing!", etc...) are just non sense as we know nothing about the real specs and features of the next Fold 6...

Anyhow you can waist your time as you wish as you say... :ROFLMAO:
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] mickliq:
I have no pleasant words to respond to this. No one is forcing you to read this post.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] hkr:
I'll probably skip the next version of Fold. Had the Fold3 and moved to Fold5. This phone (ZF5) does everything I need at the moment, so, no reason to change. Integrated S-Pen would be a good reason to upgrade, but all the little improvements are not relevant for my usecase.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] sosimple:
Actually we do. We know the hardware so we can estimate it's speed, cameras etc. Minor improvements. Probably the most important improvement is the 3-4 wider front screen.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] Arobase404:
Actually you still know nothing as you are still doing speculations on the hardware that should be in used when a few days or weeks ago some media estimated an Exynos 2400 could be used in some Galaxy Flip 6 in some regions or part of the world such as with next S25s... ^^

For now, we still don't know which version of the Snapdragon will be used with the Fold 6/Fold 6 Ultra... and even though the battery could be the same as with Fold 5, life time could be better... but we don't know for now as AI could be used...

You use yourself the words "we can estimate..." and then "Probably the most important improvement is" so conditional is still better than fake news spread by others... ^^

Rumors also says a "thicker foldable" screen could be used so the fold would be less visible such as a new hinge...

We still have few weeks to wait before Fold 6 will officially be announced so since then better use conditional phrases/words or hypothesis form but don't be affirmative since nothing is official !

Have a nice weekend
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] Arobase404:
Oh forgot to say, alternative to Samsung Fold devices could be a good choice if the software was as good as with Samsung and more specially with Samsung updates/upgrades policy...
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] Flame Red:
Been doing some reading on the Vivo. Seems like there is now a Pro International version available out of India for about $2200 that might be better suited for use in the US? Seems to have FuntouchOS as the OS. I know very little about FuntouchOS.

And the International version only supports the same 4G/5G bands as the CN version so how exactly it is International? Look at the band vs. carrier comparison, as you may or may not receive 5G coverage: Compatibility of vivo X Fold3 Pro in USA Some reported no 5G in the US, but I guess it might be because the US carriers do not have the Vivo IMEI in their DB and they don't know what features these phone support when they connect to the towers.

As far as software issues go, correct, there seems to be many. Some sellers appear to have a way to have PlayStore working on the Vivo. Seems like Android Auto does not function at all, unless you have FuntouchOS installed, which is very important to me. Certain 4G/5G bands are not supported that are used here in the US. Certainly, you are not going to get the CSC for T, V or T-MOB so I bet Volte, with video calling, wifi calling, etc will not work.

And of course there is no warranty for these in the US.

I am not sure about all the above issues, but for $2,200 I'm not going to bite. Too bad as the hardware seems light years ahead of Sammy.

No Wifi 7 on the fold 6 according to this: According to the FCC certification: no WIFI 7 for Fold 6
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] sosimple:
Actually i know, it's going to be snapdragon 8 gen 3, 12 giga ram same battery, cameras etc. With those specs, for me it's very easy to estimate the performance and battery of the new phone and as i said it's a minor update of everything. Biggest one the 3-4 mm larger front screen and the smaller bezels which make it look much better. If you can't estimate or haven't read the specs of fold 6 then its your problem. I also know the updates of samsung from one generation to another. Miracles doesn't happen.

Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 6 benchmarked with Galaxy S24 Ultra-beating performance

The upcoming foldable has appeared in dummy unit photos, too

www.techradar.com
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] _GRIZZLY_:
With this update users coming from gen 2 in s23u to s24u gen 3 feel little disappointment in battery life, temperatures device even after few months updates.

So I'am interesting how it will be in this cause in F6. Similar to s series or better.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] sosimple:
Similar to s24 probably. Snapdragon gen 3 is gen2 overclocked a bit.. It's expected to have a bit better performance and a bit worse battery. Can't have miracles to this also.. Of course perhaps samsung use it in "lower" settings so we don't have problem with the 4400 battery.. It's all marketing at the end..
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] xSparrowhawk:
In view of the price changes indicated in the leaks, I would personally recommend opting for a z fold 5, whose price will drop as soon as the next one is announced, especially as mentioned with the minimal changes in terms of performance or specifics of the two models.

Personally I wouldn't opt for the z fold 6 and samsung is taking the piss I think, I'm not getting ahead of myself if the leaks are false but if they are true orient yourself towards/stay on: our current z fold 5.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] iceepyon:
I agree. If you have the Fold 5 there is no point in upgrading to the Fold 6. The same goes if you have a current flagship device from the last couple of years
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] _GRIZZLY_:
So conlusion, we will be "ciiii", not talk a lot about not change to F6 from F5 because samsung can "broke" our feeling F5 by software, new bootloader etc. :ROFLMAO:
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] iceepyon:
Qualcomm Snapdragon CPUs have already had an overheating issue due to it's design. Which Qualcomm has never bothered to address, the worst overheating issue was with the SD810. Which Qualcomm released 2 iterations that didn't resolve the overheating issue. In fact LG stuck to using the Snapdragon 808 for a while after the 810 overheat fiasco, which is what ruined LG. HTC almost went under due to the serious overheating issue of the SnapDragon 810 used on their HTC One M9 heating up to the point, where you could use it as a stove to cook your meals.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] ronaldheld:
I will wait and see how the Z7 turns out.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] iceepyon:
Unless Samsung starts facing some serious competition in the west in the Foldables market. I doubt the Z Fold 7 will be much of an improvement over the Z Fold 6, unless the include an S-Pen slot and S-Pen support in the cover and main displays.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] sosimple:
I don't have experience in vivo os, but i found very strange not being able to set custom ringtones, so i Google it. Did you try this?

Personally, i think i would keep vivo. It's a fantastic fold. Biggest problem the warranty..
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] Flame Red:
Thank you! Yes, that worked! It looks a little different, but worked (y)
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] dentimarius:
I use a F5 for 10 month ago. F6 is a minor upgrade. The cover screen format is not like Oneplus Open, same battery, same cameras and a price higher than F5...For what good reason should I upgrade ? I'll see in earlier 2025 if F6 Ultra will come and what price. But, the great news, this time Xiaomi Mix Fold 4 will go globally. It will most thinner foldable, over 5000 battery. It may a Goode alternative than F6 or even F6 Ultra.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] dentimarius:
I remember, back in 2023 December. I was very impatienced to get my OnePlus Open. And I get it just before Christmas. Cover screen ratio was fantastic, feeling just perfect. The folding mechanism was very pretty too, silent, no gap, very very small crease. Soon, first roumors about Fold 6: cover screen will be shorter and wider. I said to myself, Samsung finally did it, the perfect Fold. Now I'm disappointed. Fold 6 is very small change....very close to Fold 5.. I planned to buy Fold 6 and Watch 7 ultra. But, in this moment watch would cost a crazy 700 Euro , Fold 6 no price ideea yet, but expensive than Fold 5. So, no way....I will not give so much money to Samsung for nothing new...
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] mickliq:
Latest Leak Leaves Little for Samsung to Unveil Next Week

Spoiler warning: If you want Samsung to be able to surprise you at least a little bit next week on July 10, then click away. Thanks to @evleaks, we have a huge dump of information regarding Samsung’s upcoming foldables, the Galaxy Z Fold 6 and Galaxy Z Flip 6... #GalaxyZFlip6 #GalaxyZFold6

www.droid-life.com

This has a really good comparison of the physical dimensions of the F6 vs F5. I believe it doesn't completely tell the story, as the F6 screen will also have smaller bezels and less intrusion from the hinge...so it might actually feel much more useable vs. F5 (possibly in line with the OnePlus Open?). We'll know in 2 days for sure when the embargo lifts!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] ronaldheld:
Not certain F7 will have major changes.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] iceepyon:
I am looking forward to seeing and test the demo units in person on the 14th, I have already booked my place.

I am hoping that the Fold 7 will finally have an integrated S-Pen slot and S-Pen support for both the cover and main displays. I don't care about having a telephoto lens on my mobile device as I am not going to be taking professional photographs with it. I would use my SLR camera for taking good quality photographs
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] dentimarius:
Rumors about F6 Ultra said that project is on hold. Maybe F6 Ultra is not thin enough to fight with Magic V3 and Mix Fold 4 ? Sorry Samsung but this year I'll go with Xiaomi Mix Fold 4. F6 is not an improved model over the F5 so, is not an option for me. In my opinion F6 with it's increased price offers nothing important, just minor changes here and there...
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] iceepyon:
To be honest Samsung can't really make the Fold series any thinner, if we expected them to include S-Pen support in it. As there are limits as to how much tech you can cram into a device and make it so thin. If Samsung had been able to add a dedicated S-Pen slot into the Fold 6, I would be overjoyed. As that was the main reason why I purchased the Fold 3 when the Fold 4 was released and skipped the Fold 5.

I will probably be upgrading to the Fold 6 as it will have better battery life than my Fold 3
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] mickliq:
I've set a reminder for 9am ET. Ready to see the deals and the initial reviews!
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] dentimarius:
Ok, you're right. I can understand that thin and spen integration are not compatible. But where is the spen integration sience the phone is by far not so thin as Magic V3 or Xiaomi F4. Why Chinese makers in few years learned how to make phones, and powerfully brand like Samsung did not? This is not true. Samsung started to copy Apple...an important update for some years.....in rest just minor changes. Let's be honest....if Xiaomi can make it in 9 mm , Samsung can't do it or doesn't want to do it ??? People was asking Samsung to make a front screen more wider... What Samsung do? 1,5mm wider front screen because that was max possible with minor changes(they made this only with smaller bezels). This is not enough for me to spend 1800 EUR...
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] iceepyon:
I agree they should include a integrated S-Pen slot in their Fold series, instead of making the S-Pen an external peripheral. Samsung has stated that the Fold 6 has to be thick to accommodate the S-Pen active digitizer tech.

While we can all agree that Samsung has more or less started coping Apple since the release of the SGS21. They seem to be playing things a little too safe with their foldables lineup, as in the West there isn't any real competition to push Samsung to innovate more with their foldables. Which you can thank Donald Trump as his China embargo for that.

I mean we all know that if Trump didn't push the embargo on China, Huawei would be the top selling mobile device manufacturer in the world right now. All Trump accomplish was to push Chinese companies to develop their own tech further.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] mickliq:
So in the end, the rumours were 100% bang on.

I went to a Samsung Store (Sherway Gardens in Toronto) yesterday and to my surprise, they had actual units on reveal day. The ZF6 definitely feels better in the hand, most likely because of the weight difference.

It's not worth an upgrade for the average person, but In the end as a business expense, it was a "why not"? decision. I think Samsung remains very exposed to all the competition, but in NAM at least, it's really only OnePlus (now a generation behind, no wireless charging, no water resistance) and Google (Pixel fold is a non-starter, PF9 might be more competitive...) thus why they're resting on their laurels while Xiaomi, Honor, Vivo lurk.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] beejmeister:
I pulled the trigger yesterday through Samsung's website to upgrade from my Fold 3. I agree that going from a 5 to a 6 is a bit iffy, but with declining battery life and the hinge problem (the phone doesn't open completely flat anymore) getting the trade in value of $800 and the $200 bonus for early reservation brought my out of pocket to $899.

That, and with the fact that I have a Watch 5 Pro and Buds Pro 2 that I love, I'm in the ecosystem of Samsung and don't feel as comfortable with having to sideload apps and patch together Watch and Buds connectivity to work with OnePlus (I've had OnePluses in the past that I loved) I just decided to stay with Samsung and feel the 3 to 6 upgrade is actually decently significant for only $899.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6] iceepyon:
I look forward to playing with the Fold 6 this sunday at the Samsung Experience store. I have heard great things about despite the fact that it is a iterative upgrade from the Fold 5. But seeing as I have a Fold 3, I may just trade in to upgrade to the Fold 6.

I am really surprised that the Honor Magic V2 did make much of an impact on Samsung. As I have heard nothing but great things with regards to the Honor Magic V2, the only downside is that the software experience in the Honor Magic V2 is lacking when compared to Samsung's Fold series. I believe that is why Samsung has been so slow in their design upgrades for the Fold series. As Oppo, Xiaomi, Huawei, Google and Honor foldable software experience isn't as good and as smooth as that on the Fold series.

That is an excellent deal! I hope that the Fold 6 trade in deals in Hong Kong are good, if they are I am going to trade in my Fold 3 for the Fold 6. Did you get any free accessories with the Fold 6 deal?