yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] polystirenman:
HI!

i would like to say "THANK You" to NATF!!!just flashed 4.4 Lite ROM and so far everything looks all right.i realy like the size of my internal memory.i am currently awaiting the new touch Flo 3D 2 (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=470164) and i think i will need some spare megs in my TP :D

THANK YOU for your effort and hard work,NATF!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] chernomorez:
I have a question about Video Call feature with 4.3 ROM. If you click on the Call hard button and get into the screen that shows a keypad and the last dialed numbers, the right soft button says "Video Call". Is there any way to change it to Call, b/c video calling is either not enabled or quite pricey.

Thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
OH,

MY,

GOD.

Only if you do the $350 hardware upgrade.

Seriously, NO. The 8525 is not Raphael. For your first post, you didn't choose wisely.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
In 4.4, it's the left soft button that says 'Video call.' However, that would be rather redundant since pressing any other button causes a normal call and we would lose the Video Call button.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Tofferbear:
Heh...I have a couple of those laying around...can't remember the code name for them though...I think it was Hermes in which case this is where you should start looking. Not really sure what's available for tweaking on those things, but I think I'm pointing you in the right direction at least. ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] andrewstrauss:
No Manilla

Thank you soooo much for removing Manilla.....much appreciated :)

Downloading 4.4 now to play with....then going to update my UC as it no longer needs to disable Manilla
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] l3it3r:
First off:

OMG is this faster or what!? Opera loads twice as fast, the integration of the new album is awesome and everything works perfectly.

Secondly, thanks again for this amazing update! Looking forward to the next one :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
Todd,

I've been hitting this ROM pretty heavy for about 10 hours now, and it's darn near perfect. It seems realy fast and I haven't had a single problem so far.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Matesse:
anyone else having trouble syncing?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] josbald1975:
all i can say is thank you ashter and Gary for that funny moment

this stuff runs slow enough on the current gen hardware (no offense to NATF) that i'd be hard pressed to see it running in a worthwhile fashion on the 3gen old 8525. so yeah, i'd recommend the hardware update as well :)

NATF,

D/Ling the lastest and greatest now, then i'll buy you a pot of coffee.

thanks again for spending so much free time on this stuff. (and it's probably less stressful than buying your house)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
Not me. I use the USB and Bluetooth and both are working great.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] cushcalc:
NO!

Go to the Hermes Forum.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] datima:
I have been with 4.4 for the day and do not see a problem anywhere. It does everything as advertised. Thanks for the great ROM NATF.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bamf-hacker:
Waiting on the Kitchen and the Lite removed cabs...

NATF you are tha man.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
CABs for the Lite versions are up in Post #4, and the kitchen files will be uploaded later tonight.

Dig in! :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] CR7KB24:
Manila

Hey Natf, would it be possible to make a cab or something to get the manila from 4.3, I am having problems with this manila restarting, I also had this problem in 4.2, Thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] msdtra:
GPS

Only problem I am having after flashing ROM V4.4 and reflashing is getting GPS to work.

I don't have any other programs loaded after flashing ROM.

Keeps saying lost GPS connection and yes to reconnect
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
What is the point. 4.4S is working oh so very well. Better than 4.0, 4.1, 4.2 and 4.3. It is the best ROM yet. If it works for me, it has to be great.

Did you do a hard reset after flashing?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] reluttr:
Why does it say 4.4 is "4.3S" in device information?

Edit:

I reflashed and everything is fine now
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
Where are you seeing which item? I will guess that if you are seeing 4.3S, then you didn't falsh the 4.4S ROM.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
I just checked my kitchens, and they all say v4.4.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] CR7KB24:
Yes I know the rest rom works perfect but I am talking about the manila

But the point is that that TouchFlo keeps restarting on me, it's really annoying :mad:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] reluttr:
I think I accadently flashed 4.3 XD, cause when I extracted the files I guess I forgot to highlight the raphimg file, so it didnt replace the 4.3 one. So when I flashed it flashed 4.3 again... Anyways I rextracted everything making sure to get everything copyed and I reflashed and I am having no problems now.

Also I have a question, when the xbmod version of the touch pro 2 manilla comes out all I have to do is install the lite version of 4.4 and then install the updated manilla? Or will the installation just update the manilla files in the full version?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
We are all glad to know 4.4 is working well for you.

For anyone else having problems, reflash, hard reset and test before you do any UC or install any other programs.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Ovrclck:
Can anyone confirm that MobileMatt's FuzeBerry TF3D Skin v7.5CFC + Matching Dialer is working with 4.4?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] heweaver:
What do I need to backup before flashing ROM (provided ROM applies successfully)

Thank you NATF for the wonderful work you have apparently done. I just got an HTC Fuze (AT&T) last week. I have already found the need to tweak a few tiny things by installing some additional configuration utilities I've found. From what I am reading, I am sure it will just be a matter of time before I install your 4.4 ROM.

I do apologize, but I have searched (or tried to search) this thread but maybe my keywords were too general...but I just have what I hope is a quick and easy question.

I know I will need HARDSPL to flash the roms, and I have downloaded your most recent rom. I also downloaded the stock AT&T ROM from this site that appears to be identical to the versions included with my Fuze (just incase I ever decided to swap back)...and I know that (for warranty purposes) I would have to replace the boot loader back to stock if I ever had to send it back in. I think I understand the process for this phone and am about to take the plunge. (I have flashed roms on other models of phones in the past, so this whole process isn't entirely new to me)...

But my question is, if I flashed to your ROM, am I going to lose everything I already have on the phone as far as contacts, pictures, and music? If it does erase all of those (like formatting the phone), what would be my best option to backup the contacts, music, and photos? Would something like Activesync work best, or is there a third party backup utility that would allow me to back them all up easily and then do a restore after I flashed ROM's? Or should I just copy all of the files (music and photo) to my PC via the USB cable and then do the contacts somehow else?

I don't have a whole lot of stuff on there, if I had to completely re-do all of my contacts it wouldn't kill me, but I was just wondering what (if anything) I should backup, provided the flash doesn't fail to apply during updating of course :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Ovrclck:
Very easy, first sync your contacts with active sync. Once the flash is complete, resync and your contacts will be restored! second, just back up all your music and pictures. Then when your finished with the flash, copy and paste them back. Piece of cake!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ANDROiD KiLLSWiTCH:
TF Detacher

Is anyone using TFDetacher with this ROM? I have been using it and I'm fairly sure it was the cause of my lag, but I like it so much. If anyone uses it and it works fine for them, then great, it must be one of the other 50 applications I install :eek:

Gary, sorry for being overly excited before, didn't even know I had repeated myself, ha!

NATF. Would this be the final nice and stable boyfriend 6.1 that we bring to our parents before we get naughty with 6.5 and TF3D TP2? Hmmmm?

Ps. NATF. Sorry, I am just excited that is all, you do such hard work, I don't mean to be rude. no more mention of 6.5...

6.5

...starting now!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] heweaver:
Fantastic!

I am going to spend the next several days reading all the cons for the v4.4 but once I am sure none of them are deal breakers, then I will probably flash after the simple backup process you described.

I am guessing that any apps I may have installed (like the advanced config and diamond tf3d config tools) will also need to be re-installed also. No big deal, I only have a couple of them... but thanks a lot for your info! I almost can't wait to try to flash the rom now :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
The kitchens are up!

Good night all on the East Coast...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ANDROiD KiLLSWiTCH:
Error [262] update error

I am getting this error in flashing my rom, it always happens at 74%, and I have gone through the recovery steps three times now. When I try to view the read me file it wont open. I am in the process of downloading 4.4 again, and want to know how do I get out of this endless "Recovery" loop and try to start over with the new download? I get the three color screen telling me "upgrade ROM code error please try again". When here, should I shut down the PDA Phone ROM Update Utility 3.27.4.3 on my PC, re-connect my phone, and run the fresh download? Ugh, my poor baby is sick and I need a doctor! :confused:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] heweaver:
DOH!

I am at a friends house and plugged in my device to his PC (he has activesync installed but does not use it). I let it establish a connection to the device and then realized my calendar info went to his Outlook (which he DOES use)...so, I deleted the partnership on the PC...not realizing that when I plugged my device back into his PC, it would erase all of my contacts and calendar entries. So now I have to start over from scratch again anyway... (the message the PC gave me, I mis-read it and thought it was only going to delete the information ON THE PC itself...but after seeing what I did, I realize that wasn't the case).

I may consider flashing ROM's tomorrow ... I didn't lose anything that a few hours of work won't fix... AND I learned a valuable lesson about Activesync that I wish I hadn't learned the hard way...

But I will be sure to only let it establish a connection with my PC's from now on. Thanks again for the info!

Everyone else, be careful with Activesync... :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] heweaver:
*update*

Just after I posted this message, as I was re-creating my contacts (luckily I only got a few of them re-created), I realized that the PC still had all the contacts in Outlook. I had Outlook save each one as a .VCF card (I selected all, told it to SEND so it attached them to an email, but then I just CUT and PASTED them from the attachments line and placed them in a folder on my SD card). I then just went to the folder on the phone and clicked each one, one at a time, and it added them back to my phone with all of my notes, birthdays, and even the personal photos I had created! So now, not only did I not lose my contacts, but I realize that as long as I keep the .VCF files stored somewhere, I can easily just re-add them without any hassle! I am probably going to flash tomorrow, but may still think on it over the next few days...but I feel happy that my contacts are back the way they were!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Ovrclck:
Anything besides stock rom will be a huge improvement. What are you waiting for? :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] eastside770:
whats up guys!im new to this forum.i had the att tilt.i did the upgrade from 6 to 6.1. i was wondering is this rom just like installing 6 to 6.1 on the tilt. bc now i have the att fuze and i dont like all tha extra att s*** on there.would this automatically remove the bloatware?basically would i do this like i did the upgrade?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] shimbob:
I just flashed v4.4, did a hardreset, etc. A couple issues..

-No uninstall entry for the WeatherMaster? I know I can hunt down the files and delete them manual, just wondering. Same goes for MP3 Trimmer. I guess you have to draw a line somewhere re: what should be considered part of the NATF rom and what's "optional".

-Trying to remove the NATF HTC 5.05 Sliding Dialer just crashes the phone. Spinning beachball, cant return to the Today page and must soft-reset.

Otherwise, looks damn well polished!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] nextascy:
Backup all files, like pictures, doc, video, etc that's on the phone memory before flashing (you can backup these files using PIMBACKUP custom section). Use PIMBACKUP (search for this program) to backup your contact, calendar, and SMS. Flash your device. Than restore with PIMBACKUP.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
You can only uninstall programs that were loaded from CAB. The two you mentioned are OEM packages.

As for the dialer, did you follow my steps under the Changelog? I tested it several times.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Joecd04475:
Weather Watcher

Does anyone else use Weather Watcher? It's a great program that takes weather data (from weather.com I believe) and displays several "tabs" of info (current, hourly, daily, etc) in an htm format. Anyway, after installing it, there's a couple problems. The first is when the program is first opened, the tabs are displayed, but the actual information is not displayed until I touch the screen. The second is the whole program is "zoomed out". Everything is much smaller, and doesn't take up the full screen. I didn't have either problem with the stock Fuze rom. Anyone have any ideas? By the way, the program can be found in this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=315524&highlight=weather+watcher
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] placebo3681:
Hey guys. Having a cosmetic issue. I've never done a screen capture before so if someone could tell me I'll get a picture up to show what I mean if my description sucks. Anyway. Under such tabs as Programs Internet and Pictures, some of the data is being shown BEHIND the pictures of the tabs, and it doesn't look it good. I'm using 4.4 here and it's the first ROM I've seen do that. So for example under the Programs tab, half of the icon in the 4th row are showing up behind the pictures of the tabs. Does that make sense? Anyone else having this problem?

Also please disregard my signature, I've just been too lazy to update. Sorry.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] agent5:
Flashing ROM getting stuck at around 70%

Hi NATF,

I just wanted to confirm what others have reported. I have a Touch pro T7272 (UK). When I place your image in the root directory of my SD card and reboot in to hardSPL, it shows up OK, starts the flashing process and gets stuck at around 70% or so (can't tell because there are no numeric accurate figures in the progress bar). I tried a hard-reset and flashing again but still no success.

Eventually, I placed my SD card in to my laptop and placed the HTC new release (5.05) and all was well.

It's easy to reproduce if you need more info.

I have not tried from a PC,USB connection yet.

Other then that, I've been looking forward to this release

So I hope we can figure this out. :)

Cheers,

-Dave
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] placebo3681:
I'm also having issues using Internet Sharing. It won't connect to the network. Was not an issue in 4.3 for me. Otherwise network connects fine (can use Opera, Weather, IE, etc.) Not sure if anything changed.

Update: Nevermind. It apparently only works when you're already connected to the network. It can't connect to it on it's own. Never knew that.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mindfrost82:
I've had the same problems for a while now.

Its either related to Opera or an updated version of PIE (if we have one in these ROMs). I've noticed it in all of the newer ROMs I've flashed, not just NATF.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
It is not an issue, it is a feature. That is not a problem as it is normal.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] placebo3681:
Ok, thanks for the update.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] placebo3681:
Ok thanks. I actually installed the Restore_curtains CAB that NATF supplies and it got rid of the issue for me. Cleaned it up nice.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] grizzlygoon:
HD contacts Tab

What happened to the hd contact tab in 4.4?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Joecd04475:
From the change log:

Rolled back to older Manila build due to lag issues with HD Contacts version.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] AkumaMax:
For anyone not running Lite v4.4. Does the standard 4.4 have the Lock feature?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kk0813:
For me it's showing 4.4S but the ROM date is 02/10/09. (Just for information.) Every thing is working great for me.

Thank you
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] galford316:
Battery life

Anecdotally, I am seeing the battery life not as good compared to 4.3. Has anybody else seeing any difference. Again , this is anecdotal. I have not gather logs and not done methodically process of determining if it is.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bfspider:
Hey NATF,

Thanks for 4.4! I'll post anything that I run into.

I was wondering, on your front page, can you post the cab for the HD Manila that you used in 4.3?

Thanks :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] CR7KB24:
Yes Natf, please post the manila you used in 4.3
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] galford316:
k, I am gonna chime in. It would be kewl if you did. I would for sure use it. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] reluttr:
I agree, I liked the manilla from 4.3, it seemed to be smoother.

Has anyone tried the xbmod hd manilla on the 4.4 rom, and does it have landscape mode "just the standard landscape on the default rom not the verizon one :P"?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
I will bet you guys can get it from the same place NATF does.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NFRCER:
Anyone has connection issues with Internet Explorer? It always tells me "Cannot Connect with the current connection settings". Not even on wifi.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NFRCER:
I was writing from Opera Mobile. I didnt wanna zoom out to see wat i was writing :p
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] danlo:
Wi-fi won't turn off

Hello,

Did a search on wi-fi, but seems like everybody wants it to stay on at all times. However, I have a problem with keeping wi-fi off. If I turn wi-fi on and then turn it off, it will keep turning itself back on unless I 1) turn it off and 2) soft reset the phone. For example, I turn my phone to flight mode when I walk into my office (no cell reception), but after a few minutes, Wi-fi will turn on automatically.

Is this something that other people are seeing as well? Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dentonb2000:
Push to talk

Nat,

Great work... I love the speed of the 4.4 ROM. One problem though, I am the one person that uses AT&T PTT. I did as Post 4 says to install the AT&T dialer but PTT still doesn't work. The last version that worked was 4.2. Can you think of anything else I can try or what is causing PTT to not work?

Thanks again for your efforts.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kennyb123:
I'm still waiting for anyone to post a true bug in this release... that speaks volumes!

I just upgraded from 2.2 to 4.4. This felt like THE ONE! And, after using it a few hours now, getting ALL my software restored succesfully... the only thing left to try is GPS.

Okay, just tried it. Not spectacular. But, that was from a cold start, and I never really had great GPS response. So, it's something I've learned to deal with.

Bottom line - so far this thing is bug free and running smooth. Fuzeberry 7.5CFC is flawless on it as well.

Thanks NATF for all your work. Take a 1 month break! hehe
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] DMerrill:
Works here (just went to CNN with IE).
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] KD8DNS:
I am in the same boat
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] brnail:
4.4 gets caught in loop on soft reset

I installed 4.4 (coming from 4.3) and hard reset. I installed programs and soft reset several times with no issues. Then (this is the only thing I see as different) I entered login information into account manager for Facebook last night. This morning I could not access Contacts (all people) from the tab in TF3D, so I soft reset. Upon doing that, instead of "Loading" TF3D it said Tap to Load. Upon tapping it went into a loop and would never start.

I am trying everything now from another hard reset, except the login, to try to recreate the issue.... nothing so far.

Brian
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] shimbob:
Doh! They're in ROM. I should have known that.

I didnt check the changelog. It turns out I could switch back to the Today screen by pressing the Windows key and let it process in the background. It eventually uninstalled, go figure.

Hum, now my battery icon does not have the % displayed, nor does it change when I plug in the charger
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Beknatok:
Hi all,

NATF, I wanted to offer you kudos for a great release! I loaded 4.4 yesterday and all in all, this is a super solid release and ROM.

I tried out GPS functionality last night and this morning, and found for the first time in a long time, that it's working fine for me. From various locations along my commute route, in the Chicagoland area, I was able to obtain a GPS fix anywhere from 5-30 seconds. I will note that I'm using the latest Blackstone 1.12.25.16 radio right now as well, which I believe is also a factor (as it improved my GPS with the Elite RC3 ROM I was running prior).
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Tofferbear:
Yes, you loose everything when you do a hard-reset which is required after installing the ROM. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Tofferbear:
I'm usually the one with battery issues, but it's day number 2 and still discharging (that sounds gross) normally.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rctneil:
I have just flashed this as my first successful flash and noticed that if I go into Messaging, I get Email and "Messages"

On my Vodafone rom, I used to get Email, "SMS" and "MMS"

How can I restore that functionality?

Also, I used to have a rigntone which was named something like "ringtn-Random"

How can I get that back?

Also, Quick GPS always fails to download the updates. Any ideas why?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Joecd04475:
So there's no actual solution for the Weather Watcher issue? That's too bad as it's one of my most used apps, and it's not really usable as is.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Phantisy:
Is there a reason why you provided the MusicID version you have to pay for? I know it was in the older roms because I use it all the time.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bmc123:
FuzeBerry v7.5CFC

I just flashed to 4.4. One of the first things I tried was to install the FuzeBerry v7.5CFC theme but I got an insufficient permissions error. Has anyone else run into this?

Nevermind, I forgot I had to disable TF3D before installing the cab.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NFRCER:
Did you tried disabling TF3D first?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] nextascy:
Has anyone tried youtube on Opera? I can't get any video, I thought this new version of Opera had flash support?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] galford316:
Kewl, I will put some rigor on my testing and see ....

thanks for the info. I will publish my findings if i see the impact happens to be negative.