yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[P3400 ROM Development] besony:
checked with splchk !

Hello,

I have checked ma Gene with splchk

It says Its Old Gene.

ONBL-1.17.0000

SPL-1.17.0000

GSM-02.79.90

OS-1.17.0.0

S/N HT8*****

/ When the sw says its OG <Old Gene> do I need to recheck with any other app, or can I be sure that its OG and proceed with Olipro and OG ROMs ?
[P3400 ROM Development] besony:
Q 5 (a) !!

Well, I have a question here..

I have WM 6 prof. on ma OG, unpatched/unflashed (Or we can say Stock Gene)

Now.. If with the first flash I choose 6.5 <[ROM][OLD & NEW GENE][WWE]WM 6.5 build 21725[NEW]> for e.g.

Then does it mean that I cant come back to some 6.1 version of some other chef ? maybe next time when I am flashing !?

Please elaborate the answer for the Q.5>

Its not clear for me..

Thank you

/Wonderful tuts.. really awesome work../:)
[P3400 ROM Development] vaibhav_batra_the_techguy:
obviously u can

but dont downgrade to WM5 or earlier
[P3400 ROM Development] besony:
But why !

But why would I want to go back to Stone age.. when we have come to the Bronze age?

Seriousy.?:confused:\

Any way..

I have checked out a few ROMs here..

They all look nice, wonderfully worked art pieces of engineering !!

Please can you give me a pick for 1st ROM - as in stable fast and decent look..

< More apps I use.. No Internet as of now..>

/REsponse time is awesome !!!/
[P3400 ROM Development] vaibhav_batra_the_techguy:
my personal opinion is

Sumit's VanillaManila Ultimate ROM v3.1.1 (build 21046)
[P3400 ROM Development] besony:
Last minute checks to make?

Ok..

I have gone thr all the tuts here..

First the HSPL .. ( only once .. never again.. < RIght?> ..)

.. I will check the surity of my fone being OG/NG

then Flash a ROM.. accrdng to OG/NG.. I have VAnillaManilla v3, and Sumits 6.5

#(Special thanks to the programmer bros and the tut writers..)

Any last minute checks to make?

/# HEck I have even made notes like "Imp" "Check before proceed.." !!/:cool:

/Dont remember doing that back in COllege even !!/;)

So.. any final things to watch out?:)

Proceed to-- FF /First Flash/ !!
[P3400 ROM Development] vaibhav_batra_the_techguy:
take the backup of ur contacts, messages etc using PIMbackup (google for it or search it on XDA)

check the surity of my fone being OG/NG

then HSPL (according to NG/OG) .. ( only once .. never again..)

then Flash a ROM.. accrdng to OG/NG.
[P3400 ROM Development] besony:
ctrl c + ctrl v !! :P

take the backup of ur contacts, messages etc using PIMbackup (google for it or search it on XDA) ---Done

Will do the rest today eve after returning from "strenous day" at the office !!

:P

Ok.

One more thing I found out..

ROM having ipl/spl/gsm !! that brickens the Gene..

< But I think these ROMs I got now.. as stated earlier .. are well tested and bug free !! right?>

Any way .. I have taken the	htcRIE_0.5.0.12.zip

I think I am all set to go ahead .. wish me luck...

/fingers crossed/
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
These ROMs are mostly bug free. Not entirely, since Windows itself isnt bug free :D.

As far as HSPL/IPL is concerned, the cooked ROMs only contain OS.nb and extrom.nb. So they can be flashed safely.
[P3400 ROM Development] besony:
1 more thing

If suppose..

My Gene is bricked by GSM/IPL/SPL.. can it be unbricked.. or is it those kinda brickening wherein I would have to take it to svc centre?

Thank you..
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
If you follow krazy's guide word by word. I MEAN word by word, you will be thorough. But if you skip a step or two, then your device will be bricked to service centre.
[P3400 ROM Development] besony:
Done...Flash..

Helloo Goood People !! :):)

Flashed .. and Flashed for Good..:D

5 Times yesterday Night !!!

Will post in detail later today...

No worries,, the guide worked perfect for me.

Kudos..:cool:
[P3400 ROM Development] vaibhav_batra_the_techguy:
CONGRATS

N it also seems that my tool is also working fine.

i was worried because ur sr no starts wid HT8 which is usually a new GENE...:cool:
[P3400 ROM Development] besony:
It works good..

Ya.. I read about that earlier also. that .. HT8 series turning out to be OG !

But.. Mine is just 03/07/08 - Original Rom dated..

But, I think your app takes care of the confusion..

Nice app..

I am also wanting to develop apps like these..

So.. I guess, I missed the NG by coupla days ! :P

Well, while we are on that..

Exactly, whats the differentiating line between NG and OG ? /other than date, that is..:P../

On upgrading, what difference does maintain between the two, and what differences are equalised?
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
JumpSPL and HardSPL both can be used to flash ROMs. The difference is JumpSPL is temporary and HardSPL is permanent. After you flash a ROM using JumpSPL, the device becomes locked again and you'll need to do the trick every time you want to flash. HardSPL once done becomes permanent and you never need to do it again. You will just have to use either SD Card method or RUU to flash.

So using hardspl, although is a dangerous process, but once done it makes things very easy for future. But using JumpSPL will not harm your device in any way.

Removing Memory card while flashing is a recommended thing although it is not always needed if you are using a micro sd or sd card below or equal to 2 GB size. Cards like 4 GB and above come in SDHC or micro SDHC format and these are required to be removed otherwise the process of flashing wont start if you are using RUU method.

The guide is very easy to use. The essence of the process is :

1. In case of Vista you need to prepare your PC using older active sync drivers, in case of XP you dont need to do anything.

2. We prepare our phone a little as given in the guide.

3. We first flash the SPL for OLD gene, the olipro one, by running gene_hspl.exe from the phone memory. If this works and the phone boots, there is no need to do anything else. We now know that its an old gene.

4. If the previous SPL bricks the device, we know that its an new gene. Then we use the Orefkov's SPL for new gene. For that we first remove battery, press the power button for 15 secs, put back the battery and then restart our phone in bootloader mode by pressing camera button while starting up.

After that we use mtty to insert the boot.bin (the bootcode) into the phone and then when we get the white screen, we flash the SPL into the device. After this the phone starts booting.

5. We set the pc back to normal by loading the original drivers in case of vista and also the phone by reverting to original settings. After this step, we are ready to flash a new ROM. Thats it.

I dont think its that hard to do. You just need to read it thoroughly.
[P3400 ROM Development] zinzar:
What I can tell ?

THANK YOU TOO MUCH

And now I'm sure , once you will change GENE with another device i will do same :)
[P3400 ROM Development] spyder.mate:
Thanks alot :) to everyone who contributed
[P3400 ROM Development] ARGB:
Need some guidance, please

Hi all, I've been reading thru the thread and hope you can help.

My husband has been trying to unlock a Gene (for a friend, but possibly for me : >). He's stuck (to be fair, he's stressed from work, and knows he made a mistake). It would be awesome if I could fix it by myself. I would win some major points!

Here's the short version: He ran olipro, and says the screen read SPL 1.10 olip.

Instead of skipping to step 6, he performed step 5. Now, all we get is a tri color screen and ONBL 1.02.0000 and SPL 1.07 Oref.

Would someone be willing to walk me through the next steps? I would be forever grateful. I am not technically inclined, but can follow directions. It would really impress my husband, and I might get myself a new phone, too! Thanks in advance!

SN CH7xxx

dopod D600

Let me know what other info is needed.
[P3400 ROM Development] vaibhav_batra_the_techguy:
Go through from step 5 again and do exactly word by word what is said in the tutorial......

u will surely succeed

ALL THE BEST
[P3400 ROM Development] ARGB:
thanks, but...

I followed from step 5. When I get to the mtty part, i don't get the USB option. Only COM 1 and Com 2. Neither works. How to proceed?

Thank you!
[P3400 ROM Development] vaibhav_batra_the_techguy:
Download > extract > and execute the attached file before running mtty.exe
[P3400 ROM Development] ARGB:
nope

no, still just com 1 and com 2,. maybe i'm not extracting it correctly? i think this might be too much of a challenge for me. :(
[P3400 ROM Development] ARGB:
okay.

got it right this time! Now, when mtty finished i followed until step 5, part 7. my phone does not restart itself, and i don't see the splash screen. i get nothing, blank screen, phone is off.
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Come on chat. Its cumbersome help like this. i will send u my id by pm in 5 mins, after finishing my dinner :) ok.
[P3400 ROM Development] ARGB:
lol. thanks. i really appreciate all of the help i'm getting.
[P3400 ROM Development] ARGB:
thank you!

Lots of thanks to stupidgye for getting me pointed in the right direction, and many thanks to Sumit for helping me fix our phone! I'm super excited and so very grateful for your patience. Thanks again!
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
It was equally great talking to you, wishing you and your husband all the best wishes for your life to come :) I got disconnected in between for some reason, but nevermind. See you later.
[P3400 ROM Development] besony:
One Q !

Here in Wiki xda..

I read that the nbh extension ROM is used in "Hermes" also..

Can we use the ROMs made for Hermes, or for that matter any other fone.

Any light on this, Please?

/ My analogy.. ROM is basically a OS 'installation_cd_version_for PPC', and as long as we have same/similar systems wrt hardware.. I think the ROMs could_be/should_be interchangeable./

/hungry for more ROMs !! :P /

/Great Work Mr. Sumit.. SumitsVanillaManila ROM is awesome.. so far..,

but, I saw that, here, when I use the Audio manager..it doesnt seem to have volume control on screen !:eek: or is it so on my device only ! ? :p /
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Your perception is just a little bit on the wrong side, if i may say so dear. The Rom is actually an image of installed operating system on a computer, just like people take as backup using Norton Ghost and stuff like that. It contains all the OS files + Applications from the OEM in installed form which is flashed to the phone. The format of this image is called imgfs or image file system.

The reason why we cannot use ROM from any phone even when we have similar specs is a little complex. There is a part of OS that is contained in what is called XIP (eXecute In Place) area. This area's most important characterstic is that file in it dont need to be loaded into RAM like the usual way files are executed on a PC or even mobile Phone. They can execute right at their place. Without going any furthur into the complexity, these files do not have any information on how to execute them. A fixed, small peice of software called bootloader is present in the phone's permanent memory area which has a fixed way of reading the XIP, and the files in it using pre known addresses. Every phone for some strange reason have different addresses for the files in the XIP. As the bootloader is something you cant change, so are then addresses in XIP. Thats why a ROM for Hermes would have its files at completely different addresses than a ROM made for Gene.

The only way to run a ROM made for another phone on your phone is to port the XIP to your phone. But even that doesn't works when the phones have some peculiar, however small, differences in the hardware design. Thats why ROM cooking requires a certain level of knowledge and expertise.

And for that matter, Hermes is not at al similar, its a 3G device with dual cameras, and a lot of different software. so it would be difficult at best to port its ROM.

Audio Manager doesn't have any volume control, it uses system volume level. Its the same with all phones. I guess you are not very familiar with Windows Mobiles from HTC.

Anyways, i hope this humble little explanation of mine will enlighten you a little :)
[P3400 ROM Development] besony:
explanation is crystal clear..

Thank you for the explanation..

But..:eek:

My gene came with default Audio Manager- IT "did" have Volume control on screen !! Sure about that..

<I am new to the device flashing/patching wise.., but I have explored it to some intermediate extent with its default capability and with apps..> :( :( :(

Your explanation was nice.. thank you,,

Again..

PLease suggest some other ROMs../ other than Vanila 2d style../
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Ya i faintly remember the original Audio Manager had the volume slider, actually i didn't used audio manager on my default rom much, as i was obsessed with using WIndows Media Player for some strange reason :D And i didn't kept the default ROM for long time either, i learnt flashing and cooking within the first month and then never looked back at the original rom :)
[P3400 ROM Development] besony:
Hmmm..

So..The Audio manager 'does' have Vol ctrl on screen..

<Or it 'did' have .. before Flash ! :P >

Ok..

Any way..

Diffenrent styles of ROMs please ! << some light on this !!
[P3400 ROM Development] vaibhav_batra_the_techguy:
as far as i kow the answer is no!

bcs my sis has HTC touch with WM 6.1 n it has the same version of audio manager and thr are no volume buttons in it

we have to use hardware volume up down key to do so, but in touch they also provide a separate volume animation for audio manager using volume up down key

i'll post the screen shots of it tomorrow
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
LOL :D. And I changed my ROM the next day :D. So I also don't remember the default audio manager :D.
[P3400 ROM Development] besony:
Ahem..

I am now sure about the Gene having the Vol ctrl on screen <no hw >

I will post by tomm !

:confused:
[P3400 ROM Development] vaibhav_batra_the_techguy:
See the sidebar for volume control in audio manager
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Hey Vaibhav, that is not part of the Audio Manager itself. Its because you have cooked the HTCVolumeControl package in your ROM. It takes over the default volume control and provides a finger friendly interface, isnt it?
[P3400 ROM Development] vaibhav_batra_the_techguy:
The screenshot is from HTC Touch with original wm 6.1.

the difference is that using volume up down keys changes the volume of audio manager only but in custom ROMs using the up down key to change the volume also changes the system volume

I have seen many custom ROMs with finger friendly volume control animation but none of them has this animation
[P3400 ROM Development] mkklk8:
Thanks and a question

First, many many thanks to krazy_about_technology and vaibhav_batra_the_techguy for helping my wife to bring the Dopod D600 back to life :D:D:D.

Second, the Vanilla Manila Ultimate ROM it is awesome :D.

I also wanted to let you know that I've found the battery only would charge when the phone is in the boot loader mode but no when windows is on neither when the phone is turned off (tried using usb cable connected to the computer and charger connected to the wall). Strange, right?

Anyways, I was wondering if some one heard of this before and if there is a workaround available.

Thanks!!

SN CH7xxx

dopod D600

Sorry, I don't have the phone with me right now, I'll post any other info later on when I'm back from work ;)
[P3400 ROM Development] mkklk8:
BTW, my wife is ARGB
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Hey Welcome to the forum Gabe :) You are having this problem with your new gene, right (i mean your spl reads .oref in the end, right? ) If yes, i will post a solution soon. Will inform you when i do it, leave me your email address. ARGB has mine with her. See you :)
[P3400 ROM Development] mkklk8:
Yes the spl shows 1.07.Oref.

I'll send you an email so you can have my email address.

Many thanks!!
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Just because you are an idiot dont blame others. You think changing roms on a PDA is like changing a Video Game cartridge? Huh! And mind that language, you will get yourself outta here in no time :mad: Post Reported!
[P3400 ROM Development] techmate:
@nilesh348: Please mind your language:mad:. You need to go through the manual/instructions before flashing the device:(.

If you still post the problem , I am sure the tech gurus here would guide to the right solution. This forum has been helping many of the GENE users and has been a wonderful place for the people to share and learn.
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
Who the hell asked you to come to this forum and try upgrading your device (and in the process obliging the entire xda community?). If you are a peanut brain, its your problem, not ours. I would suggest you go and suck your thumb and wait to get matured.

BTW are you illetarate? Because the tutorial is pretty self explanatory. Or peanut brain was exaggregation?

Your post has been reported. Hopefully we wont see you again.

We are better off without pple like you
[P3400 ROM Development] besony:
Some Query time.

FOA,

All dear n00bs, and fellow friends,:(

Lets be grateful to people who help, or lend a helping hand.

WEll, the Risks of Upgrading are "well marked and even CAPPed"

So, If you are unsure.. Wait and research more !!

And >> Respect !!

At least all us members here follow that..

.. ( I am 2 month old here, but, I studied for like 3 months almostbefore actually going with it.. and believeme.. fool proofing of the procedure is definitely very well done, plus we can read goofups of others, and the solutions tothem.. and if not.. we can post our steps, and report any unusual activity/result, and ask for help..!! - so many are willing to help..and really fast..)

So.. thats that...:D:)

SOA

Now for my query..:cool:

I am using Sumits Vanilla Manila v 3.latest :D awesome..

I am happy with the performance and the package..Really stable ROM so far.

I obseved some deviations with:

#1 Windows mediaplayer/ Audio manager > When I start a song, and then power off the screen /with power button/ the screen goes off, the song continues well.. but, then, when a song ends, the next song does not start..

The screen does not turn on when power button is pressed !! the fone is ON though.. /the service light continues flashing, and the SEnd/End lights working too..

then Soft Reset thr Stylus is the only option !:(

#2 More Calls being lost lately.. "The HTC " Call drop thing..

( for this I am researching with the Radio upgd in the forum..)

Please suggest any other way if known..:o

<Sorry for the too long post; But was necessary to put both the things, still, Sorry :p..>

eh..bump /edit/
[P3400 ROM Development] vivdutta:
new gene

hey i checked my SPL thru the splchk file given... now i kno my Gene in New so can i directly try Orefkov's spl..... how do i do it so that i can go directly without unbricking it ?????
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
sorry, you did not read the tutorial well, did you? you will have to patch with olipro first then unbrick and then patch oref. please read again.

@besony:

buddy pls post in relevant thread. i.e. mv ultimate's thread.

thank you
[P3400 ROM Development] vivdutta:
yippeeeeeeeeeee

yea i finally flashed my device.... after much of speculation !!!!!!1 thanx to u all.... that tutorial is awsome !!!!!!!
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Great! Enjoy your phone! :)
[P3400 ROM Development] deathgame:
Any other method of flashing ROM?

Is there any other method of flashing ROM's i.e. without ROM UPDATE UTILITY?

current ROM-WM6.5
[P3400 ROM Development] vaibhav_batra_the_techguy:
yes!

the SD card method

BTW is there any prob in using RUU?
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
My sentiments, I don't know why pple keep looking for alternative methods :confused:.

BTW your Signature is HUGE :D :D :D.
[P3400 ROM Development] deathgame:
No Probs!

no problems but i want to know about it....can u give me the link of post where it is explained...i searched threads but no results :( ??
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
Wiki has been updated, look in there under Gene upgrading problems :).

EDIT:

BTW when I searched Flashing card, I got the thread :confused:
[P3400 ROM Development] mmzq:
@sumit:: ur rom was gr8... hv absolutely no experience in this, but i mngd somehow... ur tutorial was big time useful... thanks...

btw, since m here already, can i flash the new wm6.5 rom that you released on 18/7 the same way?

i have a new gene (s/n 8xxxx)

*********************************

@addicted2xda -- thnx a ton.. tht's a relief... din wanna brick my phone.. jus bein careful...
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
If your Gene is showing SPL version as .oref or .olip and your Gene is working (i.e. not bricked :D), then you can straightaway flash any ROM you like from this forum :).
[P3400 ROM Development] lamborg:
I have a question regarding Step 5, point 4.

When I run the Mtty1_42.exe, the windows which opens is this:

I cannot see any "USB" button. Please tell how do I continue.

And the window which opens after clicking OK button is this:
[P3400 ROM Development] lamborg:
1 question

After flashing a ROM for the first time, if I want to flash any other ROM I have to start from the Step 6: Flash the ROM only. Am I right?

THanks
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
You can flash any ROM you want once you have hardspl your device. But before flashing any official ROM, read the ramersonw's stickey, as it may brick your device.

P.S. None of the ROMs in this forum are 'official' :p
[P3400 ROM Development] manviahd:
Hi, Dude I Have Htc P3400i And My Phone Was Brick So Pls Help Me What Can I Do My Phone Was Running In Normal Mode

S/N - DP839FW00121 D
[P3400 ROM Development] manviahd:
Htc P3400I

When I Update Rom File I Found A Error No 260 Connection So What Can I Do Pls Help Me :)
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
questions first:

did u hspl your device?

what is the spl version u see in boot screen?

did u flash a custom rom before hard spl?
[P3400 ROM Development] deathgame:
wait..

connect via usb wait for 10 sec. and then try to update ;)
[P3400 ROM Development] bnsnagesh:
Upgrading P3400i is like a child's play.......

Any person can do it.......
[P3400 ROM Development] vaibhav_batra_the_techguy:
:mad::mad:

Nice to see that u r a child and its a play for u but unfortunately we are adults and dont know how to play with this thing so can u please tell us HOW TO PLAY.

:mad::mad:

DONT POST COMMNETS LIKE THIS
[P3400 ROM Development] danny7837:
Dude, it's only becoz of the senior and earlier members of this forum, who have spent hours on finding these safe tips n tricks to upgrade gene and not to mention those who have bricked their devices and shared their valuable info that have actually made some one like you to feel it's a child's play....THINK...why can't you think before posting such stupid comments...:mad:
[P3400 ROM Development] ramersonw:
I remember well that time. Several users of new gene had their device bricked by HSPL of olipro. But thanks to OREFCOV this situation has changed and all users of new gene could have yours devices Hard spl'ed and in some cases unbricked.
[P3400 ROM Development] krazy_about_technology:
Well, :D What to say? Some people did considered it a child's play and those kiddos got them seriously injured. If fire seems like a fun thing that can cook you great food, that doesn't means it doesn't comes with hazards.

Considering it a child's play is a serious self damaging instinct in my opinion :D

@Ramerson: Don't forget Ankit360 man, that buddy of ours posted the first formal tutorial to unbrick/HSPL new gene. It was after his guide i posted this detailed method.
[P3400 ROM Development] ramersonw:
Sorry. I forgot to mention you and Ankit:D. You two really helped people here. In my last post I only wanted to comment about the suffering of various users until we get an hspl for new gene.
[P3400 ROM Development] Addicted2xda:
He saved my A** :D
[P3400 ROM Development] deathgame:
Mine too....lol :D

Thanx for all
[P3400 ROM Development] abhinitagrawal:
hey my not able to use mtty on my vista. m phone is bricked. plz help. i followed all the steps corretly.