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[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] andrewstrauss:
First cook

I have been running NaTF's roms since the early days....but have always used the full pre-cooked versions. Today was my first major run through with the kitchen cooking my own custom version. It worked REALLY well and went quite smooth. Thanks soo much for posting such a good version of the kitchen that builds things just as expected. Now my ROM is EXACTLY how I want it. Thanks again.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
I can't take credit for the kitchen itself... as the Command Prompt title says "Da_G mod"... I just add the files to it. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] FUZE_User:
Hey NATF & Fellow forum members

quick question, does the new AT&T ROM Work w/ NATF'S V 4.4?

Thanks,

FUZE_USER
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] villa_bryan:
do u need to unlock to flash new radio?? In the instructions it says u don't, i just wanna be sure though. also does the new radio give u less battery?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] digitalmatrixio:
As long as you are flashing a radio that is for the device it will be fine. For example it needs to be a Raphael/Fuze Radio. You wouldn't be able to use the 1.09.25.35 (Blackstone) like NATF uses unless you have the device security unlocked.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] villa_bryan:
the new att rom i think will be apart of 4.5 but u can only run one rom. if ur talking about the radio, i think someone said they already have it with this rom.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
NATF's 4.5 ROM will be based on the new AT&T ROM that was just leaked. .
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] TurboX2:
the rom has nothing to do with the radio, unless the radio is included with the rom, which would be a waste of webspace.

You can download the ATT rom that includes the radio, and then download the NATF rom that doesnt inlcude the radio- this will result in

the NATF rom with the ATT radio.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] EverclearCrans:
Call quality

Hello, Thanks for the great rom, i've been using it for a while now and it's super fast, can't wait for tf3d 2, I am wondering if anyone has noticed if during calls the person on the other end is having a hard time hearing you. Ever since I installed this rom people tell me it sounds like im echoing, and that they can hear way too much of the background. Also some people have even said that when I talk it sounds like I'm yelling at them even though I'm barely talking. Are there any fixes or settings for this? Thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
What is your point? I never said anything about any radio. Nor did the post I replied to.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] CR7KB24:
Keyboard

I just noticed that my keyboard is kinda messed up, it's like between the fuze keyboard and the touch pro keyboard, like when i press fn and then a number and sybol comes up instead of the numbers, i changed it via reg, but that didn't work :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] xhypnotik:
Does Music ID requires it subscription? It used to work..
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] F2a:
Ok, in the top right click on "Search this thread" and then type "Music ID" (include the quotation marks) and hit search. If everyone searched I bet this entire thread would be readable.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] josbald1975:
Yes, Music ID requires a subscription. it used to work because the version NATF installed by default had someones credentials in it without his knowledge. he was made aware of the situation and has yanked that version. so now you get a couple free ID's then you need to signup
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
NATF v4.5 Delay

I'm sorry to say that I will not be able to get a versions of 4.5 ready before I leave for Florida tonight. :( Last minute packing for the move and some other unexpected things prevented me from finishing all of the ROMs.

However, Verizon moved up the install date for FiOS in my mom's new apartment, so I will have a lightning-fast upload Monday afternoon. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] xhypnotik:
It's good to know there's [Mod Edit - language] like you out there!

:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] xhypnotik:
Oh, I see now. Thanks for clearing it up. :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
That is not necessary. Your question has been asked and answered in this thread. All you have to do is read.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] CR7KB24:
Hey, Natf, I always mess around with rom during the weekend and I tried EnergyROM 2.1 beta, and it has these amazing soft key menus, I was thinking about staying on that rom but something about your roms just make me keep using them, I was wondering if you could get these new menus on your rom, Thanks;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] simonsayz31:
I have researched and I cannot find the answer, Hopefully someone can help me.

I installed the latest NATF Rom 4.4. Everything installed correctly. Did a hard reset.

I can't connect to media net. With Opera and IE. It says it's forbidden. I tried everything I possibly could and had no luck so far. Connecting through wifi it works. I rolled it back to the NATF 4.2 version that I had previously before installing 4.4 and it still doesn't work. Any Ideas? It's with AT&T.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
I'm leaving for my 20 hour drive to Florida now, so if you don't hear from me until Monday morning, please don't think I'm ignoring anyone...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] joelpro:
fuze VS pro

Ok so I have an ATT fuze, I unlocked it a while back so I could use it on Rogers.

That worked fine, but as usual there were still some things that were locked down to ATT, specifically Data, GPS, Opera and a few other programs.

So I loaded your Touch Pro 4.4 standard ROM. That worked beautifully and made my phone 100% compatible with Rogers network, but the keyboard layout was all wrong (which I mentioned a few paged back). You told me I needed to load the FUZE ROM to fix the keyboard issue.

So I loaded the FUZE 4.4 standard ROM which fixed the keyboard layout but now I seem to be back to square one with the Data network issues.

I guess what I'm looking for is a Touch pro ROM with a FUZE keyboard layout.

Any suggestions?

Thanks! :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] StevePritchard:
Use the Touch ROM, and checkout tip #3 here ---> http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2893892&postcount=3

Cheers,

Steve.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bfspider:
Drive safe!! :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
I've left you 20 messages this morning. Why are you ignoring me?

;)

We all hope you have a safe trip and you have some fun. Try not to spend too many hours in he kitchen. Take a break and enjoy life.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] netguy45:
For what it's worth I have been having similar problems. I installed 4.3 when it first came out and a few days later I woke up to find the Fuze frozen. I pressed the reset button on the bottom of the phone and when the phone booted up it was running the first time installer stuff like I just hard reset the phone. After going through the setup again everything on my phone was gone just like after a hard reset. A day or so later the same thing happened again. I then tried 4.4 when it came out thinking something had gone wrong with my 4.3 install but the same thing was happening on that. Then I flashed EnergyROM onto the phone and that is behaving the same. Today I woke up and saw that my clock on the phone didn't move forward an hour but everything else on the phone was working. I pressed the reset button on the bottom of the phone thinking a soft reset would fix the clock but when the phone booted back up it was at the initialization screen again like a hard reset was done.

I am in the process of trying to figure out if there is something I am installing that is causing this behavior. The hard reset seems to only happen to me when I just press the reset button on the bottom of the phone and usually pressing that reset button doesn't cause a problem but at random times at least once a week I get this hard reset problem. I have been doing the recommended hard reset after installing a new ROM. Since this problem is happening to me with different ROMs I don't think it is ROM specific.

I don't think this is the problem but the first time I installed a new ROM on my phone I used the ActiveSync method and never had this problem. Then I started using the install from SDCard technique and this hard reset problem has been happening. Again I don't think this is the problem but figured I would throw this out there since I am running out of ideas. I'll post back here if I figure out what is going on. I am going to install the ROM again on my phone and not install anything else onto it to see what happens. Also I am syncing my phone with a Vista 64 computer if that makes a difference.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
Do you still have the RALPIMH.NBH file in the root of the SD Card? If so, move it out of the root and that may help.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] fuzion99:
I'm on Rogers also and have successfully flashed the Fuze Standard ROM's through various versions. After flashing the new ROM run the attached cab file which applies all the Rogers settings. Do a soft reset after.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] htcfan78:
That is an app called FingerMenu, which can be found here.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] joelpro:
Thanks guys!

I'll try them both and let you know which works best.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] CR7KB24:
Yep, that was it, Thanks, this is the GREATEST rom ever! :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] CR7KB24:
6.5 Start Icon

If anyone is intrested I just made a windows mobile 6.5 start icon for this rom :)

Just copy or move the file in the zip to the windows directory, if you already have a custom start icon add .bak to the old one then copy the file in.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] harpo1:
What's the difference

What's the difference between this one and the one on NATF 4.4 Rom?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
Oh good. I am gald I am not the only one that "doesn't get it."

Now I get it. You want people to think you are running a non-release verison for Windows Mobile 6.5.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Jdilla:
The 4.4 one is in color and the one CR7KB24 has posted is black and white. according to the posted jpeg.... thats obvious though... i dont get it either
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] CR7KB24:
It makes the start icon all white, like the one on the windows mobile 6.5 roms
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
What if I told you the reason it is white is so it can easily been noticed that it is a non-release version.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] CR7KB24:
Well, ok, but I like it any ways better than the other one
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] l3it3r:
I like it because it matches the rest of the black and white icons.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] joelpro:
Thanks for the suggestion but it didn't help much, still have some issues with data. And I can't use the included opera browser or GPS update.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] joelpro:
Worked beautifully! Just what I needed.

Thanks again!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] HelterSkelter67:
off topic but kinda funny :}
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] CR7KB24:
I laughed but only because it was really dumb :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bbianchi:
Is there something that I am doing wrong where in 4.4S most of the apps included in the ROM wont run? I cant find any crash logs but any new apps work fine, and all utilities work. I noticed the only games that work are Solitare and the Ball Maze, and it goes on like that for most all apps. With 4.5 around the corner I am more than willing to wait it out, but I was curious if I missed something?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] drugusv:
hi Natf thanks for your work, all is great, but, i have an issue: i am from Republic of Moldova (Central Europe), when i tried o change time settings to GMT +2 Athens, Istanbul and press ok, then i see the settings and time is cahnged automatically to GMT +2 Windhoek, and an another question: in >start\settings\connections\connection setup is list of countrys, in original last rom Moldova it is, but in yours is not, you are excluded Moldova and others European countrys? thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] telegraph0000:
Laggy IE

Is it just me or is 4.4's Internet Explorer extremely laggy and lacking some important (to me) functions...???
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
I finally got it. What he is calling the 'start icon' is really the 'Microsoft Windows logo' that when pressed, causes the Start menu to come up.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bbianchi:
Oddly enough this also happens to the Alarm when it goes off. There is no way to snooze or silence it unless I uncheck the occurrence that is causing it to go off.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] justinld50:
OK, I found a fix that fortunately did not require me to re-flash my phone:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] nextascy:
The FingerMenu is an awesome cab, and make the menu system alot more usable. Maybe we can get this in the rom, hint hint. HAHA
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Royalmathmtcs:
It's called user customization. NATF makes all of his roms UC compatible, hint hint.

On a side note, maybe we can finally have A-GPS enabled phones! According to what users of the AT&T 5.08 rom are saying. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
If you look at the AGPS thread, and then look at your phone, you will see that the only key missing is APN, add that and you are good to go.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
I think all you need to do is use the new radio.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Royalmathmtcs:
I assume you're talking about the 1.12.25.19 radio. I tried that one out and the battery life was miserable for me. GPS wise, it was about the same as 1.11.25.01, with a little less position lag. I've always been under the impression that A-GPS has not functioned correctly and have left it off. I did update the APN as Da_G instructed, and I don't think it's making a difference so far. How do you know when it's being utilized over regular gps?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] nextascy:
While usually I would agree with you, things that usually make it into the ROM has no drawback and benefit everybody. Things that should be left out are preferences or nice to have. In this case, it doesn't change anything to the phone except add to 6.1 what it should have had, which is finger friendly menu selection, like TF3D. If you test use WM 6.5, you will see that Microsoft have made such changes. There's no learning curb involved. Such as other things NAFT have included, like Touch Response.

And yes, I can't wait for AGPS either, some of the result is amazing, like 15 seconds cold boot aquired time. Now we might actually have a usable GPS.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] diceman725:
Maybe a crazy question, but anyone know if the new display drivers can be uninstalled? The resolution is too good (read: small) and my eyes are too old.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] F2a:
I updated to the new radio and my AGPS is working great. It's a must if you use gps.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kennyb123:
F2a isn't joking.

1.12.25.19 Radio + AGPS + NATF 4.4 = < 5 second GPS locks INDOORS for me.

Sick... and beautiful.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] digitalmatrixio:
For starters you may with to try out:

Revert Programs and Settings menus to 3 icons per row - Rapidshare Direct Download - http://rapidshare.com/files/166798092/NATF_Revert_to_3_Icons.cab (from first page of topic)

You could also go to Start, Settings, System, Screen, Text size and make that larger.

What else appears too small for you?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] l3it3r:
Nice, I'll have to try that out.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] khanfuze:
Where do I get the new radio?

is this it?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3400754&postcount=1

Edit: I just want the radio. I already use NATF 4.4
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] DrunkenOstrich:
Awesome. My Nokia E71 can do that to, first time I tried I was like WTF, my Fuze can't do that!

I'll have to give this radio a go. I heard it sucks batteries like a mofo tho.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kk0813:
For me getting GPS fix after soft reset is just 15 seconds but the battery seems going little faster. With the previous stock radio battery was very good and gps was about 2 minutes or more after soft reset. GPS lag is still there in both the versions (no improvement in gps lag).
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dmnshaye:
I can confirm that the GPS is incredible fast <10 seconds every time. I'm getting better battery life, but it does seem to be hit or miss for everyone.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] clavace:
1.12.25.19

I just loaded 1.12.25.19 and I confirm a much faster GPS lock.:D

I will be driving around town today and will check to see if I get better voice reception in problem areas as well as battery life.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mindfrost82:
@NATF: I know you removed the HD Contacts version of TF3D because it made everything lag. I'm not sure if you're working on a v4.5 ROM or not, but you could try a suggestion in this thread, which is to set the attributes to hidden for all of the manila files.

It might be worth a shot if you wanted to try adding this back in.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
That is an interesting idea. Maybe he could do that for 4.6. Since 4.5 is based on a new ROM, my hopes are that NATF will do minimal enhancements for 4.5 and put out a really stable ROM.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kennyb123:
No, it doesn't suck batteries like a mofo for me at all.

Make sure you use the .cab install file that replaces the rilphone.dll file to match the new radio. I've attached it here.

P.S. Yes, you will still have 2-3 second GPS lag. That has not been resolved. That may never be resolved. I can get over it, though.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] JoeTheFro:
Thanks for reposting the rilphone file, i couldnt find it anywhere.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] :
Whoa, does this cab work for any ROM, or just NATF ROMs?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] JoeTheFro:
This is the same cab i posted on page 299. It works for any ROM. It just replaces the rilphone.dll file with the one that is intended for the 1.12.25.19 radio.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] :
Hmm, Im wondering why this cab has not been posted in the radio thread at the top of this forum since they have been looking for an easy answer to get the new rilphone.dll file without having to flash a new ROM.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mindfrost82:
You sure it works on non-patched ROMs?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] :
Aha! Thats why I asked before I tried to install it. Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] JoeTheFro:
Yah, thanks for jogging my memory. Any ROM with a patched NK.exe will work with this CAB. Pesky NK...

Most custom ROMs have the patched NK these days, but it doesnt hurt to ask ROM creator first.

Side thought... If this radio was ripped from the new ATT ROM, does that mean the new ROM has a proper NK file designed for this radio/rilphone or is ATT using a patched NK as well... Or does a patched NK just allow you to swap out the file without the file needing to be cooked in...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mindfrost82:
I believe a patched NK just allows you to swap out the file. Da_G would have more info on this for sure.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] drtreo77:
Outgoing email problem with win6.1

I love NATFs ROM and am using 4.4 but I can not install the windows patch to fix the outgoing email problem from outlook. This is partly b/c the version of the 6.1 used in the build of the ROM I think. Has any body else figured a way around this yet. The last ROM I was able to send email was NATF 2.3 after I installed the windows patch cab. Any help would be appreciated.:confused:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] xhypnotik:
Can I change the manilla to the

Newer Manila w/ HD Contacts from pfcsabre from 4.3 ?

I just upgraded 4.3 to 4.4
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] togles:
Need help getting a NATF 4.4 dll file

I installed the HTCAPI.dll that came with the Diamond Hologram program.

It caused the TouchFlo 3D not to work anymore, so when my phone boots, it says tap the screen to launch touchflo 3D but it will never launch.

Can someone email me the original dll file that came with the 4.4 rom? I dont know how else to recover from this other than to reload the ROM again.

Thanks,

Todd
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Hagow:
This is agreat ROM!

I am in Canada using a Fuze on the Rogers network.

I flashed it to v4.4 and installed the two files to remove proxy from Opera Mobile and CWS. The problem is that Youtube does not work when I am using Opera Mobile to go straight to the youtube site. It worked once then it stopped working.

Anyway to fiz this I tried the search but really did everything possible. Thanks. Love the Fuze btw!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ryan6603:
check out the change log post pg1. don't know if it's the same but there were issues with the HD contacts.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] netguy45:
No I actually use a separate dedicated SD card just for flashing ROMs so the RALPIMH.NBH file is no where on my phone. Since I reflashed my phone using the ActiveSync method again the problem hasn't come back. So far I am running with just the stock apps that came with the ROM with the exception of installing Keepass. I just bluetooth paired my phone up with my car today so that is something new I have added to the mix.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] xhypnotik:
Yeah I saw that.

"Rolled back to older Manila build due to lag issues with HD Contacts version."

It was really good. I don't really like the old manila (no offense, NATF is the best lol imo) because on the Settings and Programs tab, it tends to ummm I'm not sure how to say this but it overlays it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] uncled1023:
Hey, i flashed this rom no problem, and im loving it. But i have noticed a bug, dont know if this has been said before, but i dont think so from what ive read.

All the up/down scroll bars dont work. not with the stylus, or with your finger. whenever you try to use the scroll bar, it always just exits the drop down, or just doesnt do anything.

Also, when you press and drag, to scroll up, and let go, it shoots up really fast, and doesnt stop unless you eatehr touch it again, or reaches the end. This can be really anoying when i am scrolliung through a list, and then it zooms to the end really fast.

If you already have fixes for these problems, could you please post them, but if not, it would be amazing if you could see if there is any way you could fix these bugs. Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garyfunk:
I think you are the only one with those problems.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] DrzNight:
Here ya go...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] uncled1023:
yea.. i figured it out. i just had to re-align the screen. Thanks for your help though.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] taterace:
TouchFlo 3D not working

I recently bought an At&t HTC Fuze from a private seller. They directed me to this site to flash the rom, to restore default settings.

I downloaded:

[Feb 24th - v4.4] - Password: NATF v4 Series

| Direct Link | Rapidshare | HTC Fuze v4.4 Standard

I love how it navigates and it worked great up until this mornig. Screen started acting up so I powered it off and back on. Now the HTC TouchFlo isn't working. It is stuck on that screen when powering up. It says "Tap Here to launch"...never starts from here.

I'm admittedly WAY out of my league with this. What do I do??

Thanks!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] nextascy:
Click on the Start button, Setting, System tab, Clear Storage, type in 1234

After that, see if it works. If not, reflash, and Clear Storage again.

Good luck.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] At0mAng:
Did you install anything? Sounds like a corrupted manila file.

Try a soft reset, if that does not work then try a hard reset.

If all else fails I would download the latest official AT&T Fuze ROM and restore everything to the way it was shipped and see if fixes the problem.