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[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JesusFreke:
I'm sure there will be an OTA eventually, with the features that are currently being developed/are present in the cupcake code drop. But I seriously doubt it will be called cupcake by that point. My understand is that cupcake is/was a code-drop to get the public repository more in-line with the private development branches they are using internally. It's not a full-blown new working version/release. Eventually I assume there *will* be a new, full-blown, actual release, with the features that are currently included in the cupcake code drop. But right now, it's still a work in progress.

(If I'm wrong, please correct me. I'm just going on what I've heard/picked up)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Great NY:
yea, i have been following the talks of this ordeal since it unfolded. i usually dont post much, but i just figured i'd ask.

i may give the RC29 a try and along with the root and everything else, and then try to use the cupcake build availible here. i dont know how u guys do this stuff. im a windows guy so im kinda clueless to the linux stuff. i'm used to just editing registries and etc.

but anyway, thank you for your time and effort and help. its greatly appreciated.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xspeed9190:
I havent seen this in anything yet it was assumed that this would have flash 9 support do we have any confirmation either way
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jjcd51590:
More Rumors

Ive had my G1 since RC19 lol and been following this site closely for updates and this is my first post from what ive heard it has flash 9 included and is due for jan 10th thru the 15th lol still not soon enough haha but thats what i heard anybody heard the same?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tucka20:
No but I DREAM!! That would be great! :)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jamizzal:
quick question regarding "cupcake"

hey guys im still pretty new around here but have viewed these boards for the longest. I currently follwed the steps to downgrade from a stock tmobile rc-30 to the flashable rc-29, then proceeded to gain root access and updated to JF V 1.2 RC-30, soon to update to JF V 1.3 RC-30. My main question is with many sources saying that "cupcake" will be rolling out sometime between Jan 11-15th, I was wondering will i get the auto update or has that feature been removed by JF within his modded RC-30 to ensure that root can be kept, and if so do i just use the manual upgrade method to get the "cupcake" update. I fear that doing either upgrade would ensure the loss of root access, so with that said, would users of the JF modded RC-30 or ADP1 N etc have to wait for a modded version of cupcake to be released by JF to upgrade to "cupcake" and retain root access ???? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] momentarylapseofreason:
OK, you will not receive "cupcake" OTA. After it's released, just wait till someone compiles a rooted version.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tyrnight:
I have the DP1 which I 'upgraded' to JF RC30 1.31 for the extra 'software' . The question is.. will I also not get the OTA?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hr00st:
you will not get OTA, because of TESTKEYS in JF RC30 1.31
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tyrnight:
what if I put back the stock ADP 1.0 software from http://www.gotontheinter.net/content/android-dev-phone-1-software-image

this is the original that was on my phone.. but I believe the testkeys were also on that version
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jashsu:
To get OTA updates you need to run RC30/RC8 (official or mod) and use the original OTA keys. ADP1 will not OTA, nor will modified RC30/RC8.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jzerocsk:
There is actually a moderately credible post from one of the mods on the T-Mobile forums claiming that a T-Mo employee showed him a copy of a memo indicating that an OTA based on cupcake will start dropping next week. He indicates the memo contains a vague reference to browser improvements to viewing online/animated content that some may interpret as flash, but it could just as easily refer simply to improvements in rendering, JS, etc.

http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/boa...iew=by_date_ascending&message.id=27960#M27960
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BobbyHill:
I was thinking it may indicate support for animated .gif images...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rfairburn:
Has anyone tried out the new browser in cupcake at any length? The notes say they used an updated version of the webkit rendering engine.

I have a limited number of websites that do not render properly under the standard browser or steel, which both use the same version of webkit if I recall.

My 2nd question is if the new browser release does render things significantly better than the older one, would that updated browser be installable on a rooted RC30? Would there be any backporting required to make it work?

I may mess with this some this weekend if I get really bored and nobody else has the answer already.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OminousPrime:
I'm hoping along the lines of this fix for gMail there will also be a fix for the "Message not sent!" error. I have that on about 1/25 outgoing sms and it gets annoying real quick. Especially since the alert sound it makes is the same as incoming message.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] otto888:
Apps for cupcake?

I got a stable,working(enough for me atleast) build of cupcake. I was wondering if anyone has the Market,Youtube,Maps,and all other apps that don't come with android source.

EDIT: Never mind. It will only work on 1st boot. all other boots get stuck at ANDROID screen.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jashsu:
All you have to do to get them is to download an update file and extract the apks. However, those apks aren't compiled for cupcake Android and thus will not work.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
What about unzipping the vending.apk then dropping that into source and compiling cupcake then?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pdspatrick:
Make sure you wipe after you install. (insert poop joke)

I had problems with cupcake that seemed to be fixed by wiping once or twice.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JesusFreke:
Arg! must you tempt me like that? :)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neoobs:
When I don't wipe I notice that the crap really does hit the fan LOL
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] momentarylapseofreason:
Can we reverse cupcake implementation?

Sorry if this has been asked before, but I didn't see it in search.... I also know I am also personally sick of hearing about it..... so I apologize ahead of time...

It seems that some of you have installed the cupcake branch on your phones and now are trying to get it stable and add all the functions back.

Since I am in no way a developer, I have no idea if this is possible, but could we instead of installing the full cupcake package, install parts? That is, could we add the new kernel, A2DP, new browser, etc to our devices?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chuckhriczko:
Report: TMoNews.com - Cupcake to be released at end of month

Of course it's all hearsay but the plan was mid january and since that failed no end of the month. But all questions on cupcake has been answered by super snooping tmonews. Here's the link guys. Sorry if this has been reported already btw.

http://www.tmonews.com/2009/01/cupcakes-sound-so-good-right/

Chuck
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elite-fusion:
deff. cant wait :)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] I7oobie:
Love to hear it!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] khoaitaychienvn:
so you guys didnt know this until you got to this topic? ok, fine!

Even a Viet guy got it on the 17th, http://daituong.com/index.php?optio...ang-n-rt-gn&catid=29:tin-tc-ANDROID&Itemid=13
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] I7oobie:
Let's not get snippy, personally, I can't read Vietnamese...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andonnguyen:
For those who can't read vietnamese..

http://translate.google.com/transla...catid=29:tin-tc-ANDROID&Itemid=13&sl=vi&tl=en

=]
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andonnguyen:
If you have trouble reading the vietnamese (although I do not, lol) here's a translated version of the page...

http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&u=http://daituong.com/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26view%3Darticle%26id%3D180:update-rc31-gm-c-cupcake-ang-n-rt-gn%26catid%3D29:tin-tc-ANDROID%26Itemid%3D13&sl=vi&tl=en
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ryanmo5:
Thanks for the update, thats very good news.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] benmyers2941:
We will have to wait and see. Sobile will block it. We won't know for sure until rc31 is released.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rushless:
Do not buy into this. The post was based on someone hearing from a Tmo tech. Read the Android dev forums and the actual people that are programming it say as of last week: It is not ready and has not been compiled or submitted for any phone.

Either the source distorted what the tech said, the tech is lying, or Android dev team is lying. It is one of the three and likely not the third one.

This is the same source as the "free batteries".

What doe a free G1 extended battery and cupcake on a set date have in common? Both equal zero.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] momentarylapseofreason:
Thank you..... Getting REALLY tired of these speculation threads. I vote me in as mod. I will lock each one immediately.

This is my favorite part of this.....

Yet he says:

A PDA specialist is nothing more than a tier 2 tech support. So he tells us that there is no way they would know, and then that one told him this?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Great NY:
well, i'lll be waiting for modded rc31
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LPChris:
That says nothing more than what the guy from GoogleAndBlog said. No one actually got the cupcake update yet.

I do love the banner on the left side of the Vietnamese site that says "Cupcake bla bal bla bal bla. BE PATIENT!"
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chuckhriczko:
Hey guys I wasnt trying to speculate or create a storm or anything. 9 times out of 10 tmonews can be trusted as being accurate. And they have in the past reprimanded other news sources for reporting things which were false. Again, I dont like talking about speculation. I felt from reading the article that this was in fact truth. Forgive me if I ruffled feathers. :)

Chuck
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bhang:
Ummmmmm?

What happened to "we have an update almost ready and will be early january due to the American holidays" statement made before Xmas?

My guess is that the ability to downgrade is the hold up they want to figure out if they can prevent downgrading...

I have some history messing about with smart cards which is a little computer in a plastic card, and they have areas of the memory that can only be written to once and or can only be incremented not decremented....

a simplified of this type of thing in action.

each update increments the part of One Time Programming area(for lack of a better term, Im a highschool dropout for gods sake) so when you flash a phone they could even just increment 1 hexbit each time, then a check routine in the new versions would only run in the OTP area was set to the correct one, this is a simplified explanation of a very complex security scheme, so please dont try to explain why it wouldnt work, they can stop us from downgrading somehow. this just a guess...

It may not be that often but every once in a while an electronic device can be secured...

read up on the Direct TV card swap from the H to the HU stream, in the hayday they were called "football cards" the conditional access system direct used in the beginning was completely OWNED by the pirates, some of them probably knew more about how the system worked than any other 1 employee of "dave" (nickname for DTv)

lets make a long story short, the system was understood inside and out by the pirates, they switched encryption systems passed out new cards at a cost of millions, but this was like 5-6 years ago an unless its a well kept secret there has not been any way to decrypt anything since they turned off the H system in favor of the HU.

most of the time the "hackers" win but sometimes we don't I just see so much "no matter what company X does it will be cracked/defeated" so never ASSUME cause we all know what that does.

SO GET ROOT NOW, DON'T WAIT, if they didn't want us to have root a few weeks ago, I doubt they have changed their minds. If they can stop people rooting G1s they will.

another herbs fueled ramble,

bhang
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jashsu:
There's little gain to be had taking the thread off-topic for a theory which you have no evidence to support.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AbsoluteDesignz:
Not Droid Sans?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dharkaron:
Nobody from google ever said they had an update almost ready. The "early January due to the American holidays" statement was in reference to taking what was being worked on in the private "cupcake" branch and merging it with the main development branch.

They never said anything about things in the "cupcake" branch being done or near completion. Even if it were near complete, they still need to do testing to make sure its all working properly. Then Tmobile needs to decide what gets sent out in the updates. Those updates need to be tested. And then Google sends the updates out.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neoobs:
From what I read, heard, and seen. The bluetooth is the hold up. Why does everyone think that they are trying to lock down the phone? Honestly? They didn't just fix the "root" bug on the G1 but also the ADP1 as well.. Why? because it was bad for people to have root. I don't see people yelling at microsoft, or the makers of various linux distros, or apple for locking down the admin/root accounts on those OS's

I bet if you just did some research you would find that they even said that they planned on giving more access once they found a way to do it. But their priority isn't root because not that many people can or should be using it. Their priority is the complaint of battery issues, lack of camera, lack of messaging, lack of bluetooth, and pure lack of many other features. They really have done a lot of work with cupcake. You can see it for yourself in the git directory. And honestly, I am glad they closed root and are working on the software. Give it time and we will have official tethering, official root, and probably a lot more than what we have today.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] momentarylapseofreason:
Best response on cupcake I have heard thus far! Android/Google doesn't care about locking the phone down. That is the work of T-Mobile's bean counters that don't want the tech calls flooding in when you "F" something up.

Long story short, trust that people are working day in and out on finishing this update. If you look at the roadmap for it, it is getting updated with more and more everyday. It will be here when it gets here... just sit back and worry about other things for awhile.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zer0day:
I'd take this with a grain of salt, according to JBQ (android dev), loads of things are still broken, I doubt they can fix it all, do the testing and push the update out in 10 days:

http://groups.google.com/group/android-platform/browse_thread/thread/d71fdb6e896a128c

http://andblogs.net/2009/01/cupcake-on-g1adp1/

According to another post (can't find link) by Dianne Hackborn (another android dev), Cupcake is is only pre-alpha at the moment.

Edit: Found link: http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/4dff0f23e9e267f3
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neoobs:
Well seeing as how android is beta... pre-alpha is correct.

And Wifi is working now. The problem lies further up. JBQ is our main link for us personally. He fixes the errors we find if you look at his commit history. Problem is that some of his commits are not being approved.

I still think cupcake will be out soon but not as RC31 but that is just my speculation and my opinion.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] apatcas:
Finally! More people agree that this OS is nowhere close to beeing a final build!

Hopefully Google will give a s%*t! Hey wait they won't!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neoobs:
Why is it Google who has to worry? They didn't sell you a production phone.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jbruer:
While I of course would like to see cupcake soon, I think this is a more reasonable expectation.

I wouldn't be surprised if RC31 has (minor) updates that will be included on the G1 handsets launching in continental Europe at the end of this month. (launch details via Engadget)

While this is still speculation, I believe there is some support for this in the ADP v1.1 image. It has been reported on that thread that there is a new "Local & Text" settings page. This would suggest that 1.1 has the localization support for the new languages required. It would then make sense that the other improvements seen in 1.1 will make it into the RC31 build.

Take what you will from this, but I find it best not to get my hopes up with launch rumors. I will be happy when new features arrive, but I'm not going to lose sleep or pout if we don't see cupcake by Jan. 31.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EMERYfan1988:
cupcake builds!

so i was reading o n how to flash cupcake to the g1... and i found this site and thought i would post a link up for everyone.... JBQ seems to be the only person really doing some serious modding of the build to make it somewhat usable on our phones. installing this is done using fastboot and takes some knowledge of using fastboot and flashing the images and the kernel over to your phone.... make sure you have the engineer bootloader because if you want to flash back to rc30 you need to flash the rc29 image and then re-flash jesusfreke's modded rc30. so here is the link....

flash it at your own risk.

this could brick your phone

but i thought i would let you all know about this. if you already dont! :-)

its really cool to flash but is still a bit unstable.... but hopefully soon.... maybe with the help of jesusfreke.... lol we may be able to have cupcake working on our g1 before the stupid OTA updates.... lol

http://andblogs.net/images/snapshots/
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gvarv:
Master 2009-01-23, no go

Master 2009-01-23 - installed using fastboot over JF 1.31 (ADP1), booted and started charging but never made it to the setup picture/home. Tried a wipe, then install - same. Wipe and then install over ADP1.1, same. (OS W7 x64)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] d00m:
1-23 didn't work for me neither as didn't 1-22. I got 1-21 to boot up but wifi doesn't work and I'm having trouble rebooting. Oh well...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rantrav:
I got it to work after some time...(i am new to this) I am going to try to get the market working i will take it from the new v1.1 and see if that will work anything else you guys want me to try please let me know by sending me a pm! thanks
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rantrav:
I posted in another threat but this one seems to be closer. I am getting this error when trying to push apks

*daemon not running. starting it now*

ADB server didn't ACK

*failed to start daemon*

error: cannot connect to daemon
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JesusFreke:
Strange, I've never ran across that one. What OS are you on?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rantrav:
Vista... the only problem that I had with installing was I had to put a new splash from.. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3110708&postcount=64

I was hoping that the calendar and gmail would work from your 1.41 would work, but that shouldnt be the problem correct?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rantrav:
Cupcake Development

I am starting this so that maybe we can have a threat to go over issues and see if anyone else has figured "said" problems out... If this thread is already running (not in multiple threats) I apologize.

I am going through trying to find a way to bring the market, calendar, syn tools to the cupcake build..I am not sure if these are things that need to be written in.

EDIT: It was brought to my attn that maybe we should break these down into "add-ons" instead of an entire build. Im pretty new to all of this and am just now learning, but what better place to start. If anyone knows the easiest point to start at please add. Maybe we can start with the v1.1 and build from that seeing how the "cupcake" is really for the SDK??

I really am looking for a place to start and thought that this threat would be a good idea instead of going through 10 different threads to find a simple answer.

I am going to try and compare the versions (1.1 and 1.5) and look for differences. I also keep checking http://andblogs.net/images/snapshots/, this guy seems to be more ahead than anyone else. Also this site is updated daily...

So far it works well, aside from Market, Sync, Calendar, and a few others

I am not sure if BT is working because I do not have a BT device, Wifi worked for me.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wimbet:
I myself am a newb, but there sure are a lot of rookies running around these forums now. Hope this doesn't turn into the joke that is androidcommunity.com
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kryptyx:
I am not aware of any threads on the XDA boards dedicated to doing this yet. I think there are still alot of bugs that the android developers have yet to knock out, hence why no-one has started.

All in all I'm all for this project. I think there are plenty of good minds on here who would be able to port over some things, I'd just try to keep it feature by feature and not drop the entire cupcake build on the current G1 all at once.

Last I recall the touch keyboard was one of the most requested feature followed by video. Good luck :)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] d00m:
I'm running a cupcake build full time and this is a great idea. Maybe Koush could help since he did add Maps to his build which isn't compiled by default.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] the real decadeofevil:
intresting find

how do we get this http://nullwire.com/try_out_cupcake_yourself

to work on our beloved g1's?????:confused:
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maxdamage2122:
http://tinyurl.com/cz276n
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IzzeLing:
That is absolutely GENIUS.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blahzay_blah:
is this different than whats flying around in the forums???? i dont get it
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] the real decadeofevil:
the one i tried with the emulator seemed to work a lot smoother then the cupcake you can install so i thought it was a newer build
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] debro012:
i cant get my emulator to work... says cannot create data directory
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lvlolvlo:
i don't like threats :D j/k yeah this is a good idea. But I would recommend a list with a clear explanation after the list so that way it is concise and easy to ready. just my .02
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] momentarylapseofreason:
Are you threadning me?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elcanela:
tinyurl link

oh damn, I almost dropped my laptop I was laughing so hard !!!!!!!LOL
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rantrav:
My only problem is putting apks on my g1 using adb, when I have "cupcake" flashed. Getting an error about connecting to daemon...

I am going to download the adb again. I use windows so I am using fastboot and adb outside of SDK.

Also finding the time to do so......is everyones problem...plus I am lazy which does not help! I will report my finding tomorrow after I compare the two v's..........maybe :D
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hondamx525:
So we still cant push things like the market to a phone flashed with cupcake can we?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ssantos6981:
lmao, I second that Genius nomination!