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[Google Pixel 8 Pro] thatsupnow:
I'm starting to think that this really is a carrier issue. I'm now having this issue and so is a few friends of mine who just have box stock phones. Rooting a phone would be like learning a second language to them
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] simplepinoi177:
have any of you guys "uninstalled updates" (reverted Google Messages app back to stock version that came with phone), then re-verified it with your carrier (done in RCS chats in Settings)?

edit; apparently my suggestion worked independently when it was done below

It is more secure (End to End Encryption), but other than that some minor things -- higher quality photo share, read receipts, chat functions (can be seen typing), custom color theme of individual text thread, there might be a little more but I'm not sure if it's a RCS feature or a Google Messages ones...
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] K1nsey6:
I did revert back to stock messages and RCS was active again, then got deactivated when it updated the app
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] simplepinoi177:
hmmm...so depending on what you want to do and what features you want to keep up on, if you are willing, what I would do in your situation is go to APK Mirror and install versions closest to the latest that keeps it activated -- lotta trial and error. But glad you're narrowing down the issue....

Or maybe it goes active because you go through the verification at first and it's only temporary from that. If that's the case, then it's definitely your carrier and/or its communication with Google....
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] K1nsey6:
I installed the last version that was working for me (May 6) from APK Mirror and still lost RCS. I went back as far as last December and it wouldnt stick. I hide Carrier Services and that didnt help
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] simplepinoi177:
mmmm....then my guess is it only reactivated because of the verifying from when the data is cleared when "uninstall updates" is performed....

so I would guess it's your carrier and/or Google's communication with them as it doesn't get preserved soon after going through the verification process from your carrier...

Also, my guess based on this is that even if you stayed on the stock version that came with the device (the version at "uninstall updates"), it'd still only initially reactivate, then be lost in short order....but it might be worth trying and see if/how long it takes to lose RCS...
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
Right now, it's off but I know RCS is not working because when you message someone, in the Text Box, it will say Text Message or RCS Message.

My one friend, it always says RCS MEssage and now it's saying Text Message.

FWIW, I haven't tried to load a new FP yet, but I will after work tonight. I'm just hesitant because the one I use passes both ways and everything else is working
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
Right?? Is it worth this aggravation??
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] Ericarthurc:
Not a solution to the problem, as other have pointed out this is likely to the fingerprint IDs being banned by Google.

But might I suggest that maybe an end-to-end service by Google might not be that 'secure'. As Google is the one controlling the encryption, they could just as easily decrypt your text. Not saying they are, but just like a VPN, the key holder has all the power. Just a thought.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] ThatOneGuyOverThere:
Downgrading got a single RCS message to work but stopped working after.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] Ducter:
So here's my latest. Installed lineage and using microg. I'm going to start getting away from Google as much as possible. It's not OK to block messages, phone calls on my phone and I'll make due without their apps and offerings.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] borisSweden:
You might* as well* try GOS, sure Play Integrity is in symbiosis with RCS but I believe RCS only works with G-Apps to some degree. If you want root, go with MicroG or CalyxOS.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] Ducter:
Yeah, I'm currently rooted but at this point, ironically it's so that I can use my banking apps. I have used graphene in the past but was too reliant on Google's helpful features to make the switch.

There's a couple compelling issues currently though that have just made me say that's enough. 1 being the fact Google deems it perfectly acceptable to block inbound and outbound messages and phone calls when they do not know the importance of said communications and secondly, I use Signal for family communications. I have a son that's been doing the carnivore diet, I've only spoke to him about that and only in Signal which is supposed to be a secure environment so to speak. I was using gboard and Google's text to speech to communicate with my son, I am also self employed and use Facebook for my business.... Well whatcha know, I'm now getting targeted ads for the carnivore diet. I've just had it, fed up with the lack of concern and privacy offered by Google or big tech in general. You're correct, graphene may very well be my next step but even using sandboxed play irritates me right now.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] LLStarks:
I turned off my integrity modules. Back to basic but both RCS and wallet/tap are still working.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] bsg411:
You still rooted? Not sure how you getting that stuff to work.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] LLStarks:
Yes, I'm still rooted.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] borisSweden:
It could be a for the moment verification. Next time a handshake is made it will fail.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] EndlessBliss:
Pixel 8 Pro unlocked - May 2024 update

Magisk with Play Integrity Fork and playcurl (latest updates)

Passing Device Integrity and Basic Integrity

Denylisting RCS service, Message, Google Services Framework

Google Pay works

Latest Messages Beta version

RCS enabled and shows connected in settings - no threads that should have RCS have it

Messaging Gemini fails every time

Tried uninstalling all Messages updates, clearing cache and data

Tried clearing storage for RCS service and Carrier Services

Tried uninstalling Carrier Services

Rebooting, enabling/disabling RCS multiple times

What am I missing? I'm regretting installing the May 2024 update as that seems to be when it started failing
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
Are you sure RCS is working? If you ope nan RCS chat and go to the settings/Details for that particular chat, does it say it's working, or off?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
It has nothing to do with the May update or any other update, other than the Messaging app, itself and there is nothing else you can do until Google backs off again, if they do back off again
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] bombadier:
You are using a known public print which allows Google wallet to work but that same print is being banned by Google and breaking RCS, nothing to do with the May update
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] K1nsey6:
I installed the May update the day it came out, RCS was working for me until about 2 weeks ago.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] K1nsey6:
What integrity modules?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] ctonylee65:
This really sucks arse. I'm loving crdroid but not sure how long I can hang without RCS features.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] mac796:
Yes mine finally quit working to. Uninstalling updates worked for about a day
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] borisSweden:
The better part of GOS is the sandboxed GApps, there is no emulation so some apps work better there then microG. But ending the use of Google is a better idea, alternatives for Wallet and a RCS client would be great.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] bsg411:
I have had root privileges on my phones since the Nexus 5.....but I guess I will give in and remove root from my phone...I can't believe Google did this. They would really be playing hardball if they did this to the phone app too...

At this point the only reason I have root is for ad blocker purposes. But without ad blockers the ads are ridiculous!! Nevertheless I guess I'll give in now. RIP root 😢
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] Ducter:
Here's my luck for ya though, I decided to give Graphene another go this morning, well I am just getting Lineage set back up lol. Graphene currently has a game stopping bug for me and some other users as reported on their forums. The phone doesn't ring or show any indication when you have a call coming in.

I went from a perfectly fine Lineage install, back to stock to install Graphene to have the phone not work so I went back to stock and tried again thinking it was me, it's not, Back to stock then back to Lineage lol...almost finished setting it back up again. I will keep an eye on that forum post, see when a resolution comes available as I would like to try Graphene with a different mindset.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] Ducter:
They did interfere with phone calls! That's part of my issue with them this go round. I do not think they should be able to prevent communications simply because an unlocked or rooted phone. A real life or death situation could become someone's reality and not being able to receive messages or a phone call is serious. Enough for me to be done with them.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] bsg411:
I dont believe my phone calls were/are affected that I know of. I am still able to make and receive my calls and still have my caller assisted features like call screen and direct my call. And as of the June feature drop they are adding reverse call lookup too.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] chill145:
Try NextDNS or another private DNS and that should help with the ads. I'm also in the process of returning my phone to stock and trading it in for OnePlus 12. Never had a OP phone before so figured I'd try it out before new phones (Pixel 9, etc ) are announced in the fall. Will continue to keep an eye on this debacle, but it's really turned me off from Google.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] bsg411:
Thanks for the tip...I will try those out. OP phones are really good and have good XDA support too. I haven't had any other brand of phone since 2013 but they are really turning me off now too !!
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
Why?? I just switched back to MMS/SMS. I'd still rather be able to back up apps AND data than use RCS and there is a private DNS built into the network settings that works great with ads! I use the adguard option
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] bsg411:
I just tried ad guard and looks like that is gonna work just fine. As for backup....with backing up cache and data....that is nice but with pixel flasher I have not had to do that at all. Hopefully that scenario should only come into play when I get a new device.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] BarackMitzvah:
Yep - been rooted since Android 2.1. This is ridiculous. All of the actual critical apps (imo) work fine (banking, stocks, wallet, etc.) but RCS doesn't?!

Absolutely insane
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] thatsupnow:
So mine actually shows that RCS chats is working as indicated by the green. But it's not working at all
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
Pretty much everyone will show the same thing
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] rester555:
Thanks for this. I have RCS working now too. Basic integrity only.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] bsg411:
Do yall both have google wallet and banking apps working as well?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] rester555:
Banking apps yes... Google wallet no. I do not have device integrity.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
I'd rather have Wallet than enhanced messaging
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] thatsupnow:
Yep banking apps and wallet works just fine but RCS chats doesn't even tho it's green and says it's working
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] Pixel86:
Why can't we have our cake and eat it too Google?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] borisSweden:
Im gonna guess G-Apps as mandatory for this fix?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] Dr.No.pt:
Is Apatch better than magisk?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] Keiuran:
Playcurl works with PIFork?

I'm also experiencing the same issues as everyone else with RCS. Currently using up-to-date PIF and Playcurl modules and passing basic and device integrity. Not sure what's going exactly. Is the messaging app causing the issues or is it something google is doing on their RCS servers?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] bombadier:
Its simple unless you are using a private print then RCS will not work, if you are not using a private print which I suspect you are not then the same print(Sailfish) which PIF/playcurl and xiaomi are using cause RCS to stop working, seems Google know about the print in question, what is odd is why they seem to be letting the print work to spoof play integrity letting people use wallet, it's that same print that breaks RCS.

Ie if you don't use that print RCS will work but wallet breaks as play integrity device will fail
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] travisjshepherd:
Can confirm new PIFork doesn't restore rcs
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] sabresfan:
I'm on 7pro. Switched to root with APatch and RCS is working. For how long is anyone's guess. Can't use zygist if you want RCS unfortunately.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] travisjshepherd:
Is it difficult to switch to apatch? Can I still use modules like iconify?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] sabresfan:
I've never used iconify but yes you can use modules. It's not difficult to switch. Here's a tutorial from the OnePlus 12 forum https://xdaforums.com/t/root-installation-with-apatch-and-ota-update.4675303/#post-89561456
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
I noticed that too. I was going to reboot to Windows and try to generate a new FP
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] rester555:
I agree, my work around is using the Pixel watch 2 until a solution hopefully is found permanently
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
That's a good idea!
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] Admiral2145:
How do you do this for rcs to work?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] travisjshepherd:
They mean they use the pixel watch 2 for their contactless payments. They use apatch for root on their phone, which breaks Google wallet, but allows RCS to work.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] bsg411:
Or you can go back to stock but google wallet will still think your rooted because the bootloader is unlocked but for most its too risky relocking the bootloader because if not done right you can brick your phone. Also relocking will wipe you phone and you loose your data!! So you go back to stock which gives you back RCS and use the watch for google pay transactions.

Pretty clever I must say !
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] rester555:
Yes, what the other said above.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
His watch probably isn't rooted
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] LLStarks:
Am I the only one that has had a functional wallet and RCS for days with just apatch and nothing else?

I'm not feeling the pain of lacking device like I'm apparently supposed to. Then again, I'm not an ingress player anymore.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] mcflyrk01:
wallet is working for you with device integrity failing? does tap to pay work, or just the app itself?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] LLStarks:
The whole thing. Adding, tapping, etc.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
Seems like Apatch without Zygist is a fix for RCS
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
Can't you just uninstall Magisk and then use PixelFlasher to install APatch?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] bsg411:
Is there an uninstaller for magisk?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] mcflyrk01:
are you on a custom rom or just rooted on stock?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
Unhide it and uninstall it like any app, then reboot
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] LLStarks:
Stock
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] rester555:
Lucky. Not for me.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] raze5115:
RCS problem isn't a carrier problem bc both my dad and I have the same carrier and same phone model and rcs works for him bc he doesn't have an unlocked bootloader on his pixel 8 pro yet it doesn't work for me bc my phone which is also a pixel 8 pro bc my phone's bootloader is unlocked. It's Google forbidding rcs to work on pixel phones with unlocked bootloaders. Google probably wrote code into Google messages to stop rcs from working on pixel phones with unlocked bootloaders. Sad to say unless we get a bootloader spoofer that can fake showing the bootloader as locked we will never get rcs working ever again bc Google made it so Google messages can now detect if the phone has an unlocked bootloader that's why the play integrity fix appears to not be working.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] buzzywuzzy:
Do you have APatch as well? What device and kernel? It could be device specific depending on if yours is using hardware attestation or not.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] mcflyrk01:
ahh ok. sadly it doesn't work for me with just apatch on a custom ROM 😭.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] bsg411:
I uninstalled it without u hiding it first. Tried to install Apatch but I don't think it installed correctly. I don't have root with Apatch.

Is there a way to go back to Magisk and unhide it?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] matrix0027:
Regarding targeted ads, I use adguard's free DNS server in chrome and also in settings under private DNS so ads are almost non existent. For Google ads also go into settings/security& privacy/privacy controls/ads/ad privacy and turn everything off, then go to the previous menu and delete your advertising id which is what is sent to advertisers so they can show you relevant ads.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] rester555:
And this is where Google should allow the RCS APIs for developers to make more choices for consumers. Then put a statement that your E2EE might be compromised with unlocked bootloader unlocks.

This is a stupid approach by Google.

I am running June update with stock.

I am running June update with stock ROM. Apatch latest version
[Android General] xdanic33:
That's it, I always loved LGs global clock UX and wanted to clone it so I can have it anywhere, I'm not sure I'll finish it, for now I'm just using react and maybe porting it to react native althought I'm the first one who hates bloated apps, but this way is possibly more useful for my portfolio. Years ago when I used to play more with custom roms I always wanted to have some apps but that wasn't possible quite often since some framework was required to be installed first, nowdays that I have the ability to <at least> being a soy dev and program web apps I wondered why there aren't more clones out there that match 95% of the look and feel of original stock apps.

I also wonder what is the state today, which OEMs still personalize android? I don't think there are many anymore, I used to love HTC's icons and Motorolla's apps. I also dig the concept of Samsumg more easy to reach menues that were introduced in the last major iteration I belive, althought their UI is nowdays pretty bland, it's been so long since I last paid attention to whats going on in android world...

Anyway here's what it looks like if you want a video. As you can see when you move and drag over one city it updates on the rest with an icon telling you if it's day or night.

Also here's a thread of my progress in twitter (Or X)

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1790754818815910398
[Android Auto General] tetenyi:
Under HyperOS there is a cca. 5 mins timeout for accessing mobile internet for Android auto. Is there a way to disable that timeout?

The phone is: Redmi Note 13 Pro (Android 14, 5G, latest HyperOS - global.

This happens independently of the Battery profile (high power, balanced power)

This happens even if the car has not moved an inch.

There is not any special tinkering with the phone (rooting etc.)

Any advice is most appreciated.
[Android Auto General] marchnz:
What does seller suggest when contacted for support, what has been tried?