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[Redmi Note 10 Pro] Sheist!:
Wait, no Google?

The question mark next to Safetynet/PIF is concerning. (and the "data unavailable" for Verified Boot and bootloader relocking)

Have you installed on an unlocked bootloader and does it pass PI checker for Basic and Device? If no Google, I wonder if banking apps are all going to fail if rooted.

I really like the complete install instructions, though. (y) Every XDA ROM should do this.

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[Redmi Note 10 Pro] pnin:
I get it, I would worry about those, too. But there's plenty of people running MicroG and other deGoogled ROMs and for them that's a non-issue...

I haven't installed eOS recently, but I still have an old 32-bit ZTE Axon 7 that is running it perfectly. Default apps are a little rough around the edges but everything is nominal and I can even log into YT with Vanced MicroG services.

FYI, eOS isn't just any ROM -- it has an European foundation supporting it, lead by Gael Duval, former head of Mandriva Linux...
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] Laptapper:
So why you've didn't installed?

Sharing ROMs is good but tested shared ROMs are better.....
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] Sheist!:
I fear losing use of my favorite Google apps that I use every day - Drive, Calendar etc. I worry how Google Play Services will shut down non-Google apps from data access just because they aren't Google. I do wonder how dominated I am by Google apps - and I am! It looks like we have to be our own Guinea pigs here and that spooks me.

Wait, Youtube Vanced, too? Does this still work on MicroG? If this is a still-working Vanced for Youtube, then I am intrigued.

I checked it out (this ROM) on Youtube, and they claim all is well in app town, but not with using all Google apps specifically. (I will try it out for myself soon.) Bill Gates said we could "stop using DOS" with Windows 95 and wow, was he wrong. I miss Windows XP and particularly WIndows 7, but not the rest.
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] pnin:
I did install it, just not in a RN10Pro...

Traffic is dwindling in this forum, so I'm trying to keep avenues open: eOS is one of the strong contenders for that, IMHO.

To tell you the truth, It was Vanced then, when the Axon 7 was my daily driver -- I'm afraid it doesn't work anymore and that's where the ReVanced fork could be a savior.

But even ReVanced, which was working flawlessly in my sweet (and Mi Pad 4, for that matter), is having some issues lately, showing but not playing videos or, when it does, having buffering troubles. I'm told the problem really lies with MicroG GMS authentication but I have yet to find a satisfactory solution, other than switching Google accounts.

BTW, fully agree with your take on Windows... I just can't stand being MS (or Gs) *****º: all power to the users!

º) Really? 😲
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] HiQual:
Very interesting post - thanks.

Can anyone say anything about how this ROM is funded?

I thought I saw something about payment plans for email, cloud storage, etc.?

Is it possible to use your gmail account and google calendar sync and contacts sync with this ROM - without google apps - and without payment?

Many thanks
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] pnin:
Forgot to say that I did install a minimal GAPPS package -- no really sure what it was anymore but I'd bet it was nano/pico OpenGapps (https://opengapps.org/)...
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] Elinx:
In that case you haven't a DeGoogled phone anymore, which is imho the main advantage of

/e/OS

For the use of Google services, microG is added, which only does the job if an app this demands.
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] pnin:
You're 100% right and I am well aware of that. But that's how I roll(ed)... 😶

FYI, I also had Island and a separation of work and user profiles -- most of what required Google and my banking apps were segregated to the work profile.

But isn't anyone using eOS on sweet, FHS?
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] Sheist!:
I am on Derpfest 14 but downloaded the files to install it soon. Apparently, Drive has full functionality but might crash.
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] pnin:
Please keep us posted... 🤓
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] Synt4x3rror:
Just out of curiosity, how does this ROM compare to Vanilla LOS? What are the benefits / disadvantages between them? I'm mostly asking for opinions here. Thanks :)
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] Sheist!:
It is based on LOS, and probably similar. There is an informative video on Youtube with a non-Irish lady presenter. (actually, one of many)
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] pnin:
@Sheist!: Real bummer! Thanks for letting me know.

FWIW and as I told above, MicroG is having a lot of issues lately just for connecting to YT -- I'd expect those issues to escalate with broader GAPPS integration.

And the recovery issue might just be them mirroring LOS stance where they say it's mandatory -- last time I tried, I set it through regular TWRP.

As for A13, there are lots of reports scattered around that upgrading to A14 doesn't improve resource usage (like battery, for instance) and results in more lagging.

YMMV, but newer isn't always better.
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] Laptapper:
For me A14 is better in bb with responsive smoothness.

Tested in cherish and derpfest
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] Sheist!:
It definitely wants folks that prefer the iOS environment. (i.e. no app tray, etc) I tried a Drive app from 2022 and no change. Gmail fails for the same reason as Drive. Play Integrity Checker fails because it cannot connect to Google Play, obviously. Safetynet in MicroG shows "no apps" using it, which is understandable and no longer even important anymore.

If you do not want any Google stuff, and you prefer an "iOS-ey" Android non-Googler, then you might like this one. Sadly, I am still connected to at least some Google stuff, for now. And, the Android 13 and Safetynet constraints won't work for me.

We need Tweaks For Youtube on the phone; it works pretty well on PC. Newpipe still works on my non-e/OS daily driver, which is nice.

Thanks to @pnin for the ROM. :cool:
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] Sheist!:
I like the Derpfest quick toggles better than the Pixel scheme. I can't recall any other ROM that does that, which they should!
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] pnin:
It's a fair appraisal, IMHO. 😎

As a final note, one should bear in mind that eOS allegedly supports 253 different devices currently (see https://e.foundation/get-started/), apart from the half dozen or so which they sell pre-installed through their commercial Murena front (https://murena.com/products/smartphones/)...
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] Sheist!:
Here they list what does and does not work with eOS, and was updated 1 day ago:

[LIST] Apps that work or do not work with microG

microG is a part of the /e/ROM. For users who want to continue using applications that require the Google infrastructure but do not want their data spied upon, microG is a good plan B. That being said not all apps work well with microG. There have been a lot of queries from users regarding what...

community.e.foundation
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] Sheist!:
This ROM is also perfect if you need to open an account while limiting your phone exposure to permissioning concerns FROM that account, i.e. Telegram, etc. I refuse the Google account login for MicroG (thus no Gapps are installed) and the Android app can be installed directly, since an SMS capability is required. Anyone curious to see what they offer, this seems like the "safest" way to accomplish it without impacting your routine on your other daily driver phone. They offer a desktop app, which is convenient to peruse the content (still not impressed though!) but you can't create a new account via anything but a mobile with a SIM. Wow, do they have a lot of unmoderated content! OMG. Channels are like an old bulletin board format where you just have to keep scrolling down from posts in 2021 to get to the new ones for your device near current date. Lots of developers from the Middle East and Indian subcontinent regions. Many PIxel-like iterations, almost too many. It is the weird way they post them, in different channels, like one long bulletin board post. Yes, you are on your own with search strings and trying to find anything. I used the long device name or sweet, and collected the VERY FEW relevant channels. Not very logical setup at all, certainly not as well structured as XDA. Did I mention their "moderation!" Bizarre that a chat tool became a ROM repository. Thankfully, they offer logout capability on both phone and desktop apps. I REALLY dread any app that refuses that simple functionality.

EDIT: the app has no permissions granted in Android and it still works. This comforts my soul!

EDIT 2: In order to link the desktop app, I permissioned Camera (to scan the QR code) and Call Logs, linked, then removed permissions. Will see how it goes. 💪

Curious if anyone has any opinions or suggestions of perusing/using that website. :)
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] pnin:
I'll just say that I have been using Tm for almost 10 years now, mostly for sharing files with family (and myself), and I'm quite satisfied with it for the purpose.

It gave me E2EE before it was cool, 2GB file exchange (which allowed me to let go of ensh!tified Dropbox), and a convenient IM workflow. As an added bonus, its desktop client is mostly FLOSS and also natively portable (i.e., it can be run off an USB drive). And there may be ways now to register an account without a phone number...

But in what regards technical discussions, I'm 100% with you, Sheist!
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] pnin:
Posted to Pavel Durov (founder & CEO) public channel today.
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] Sheist!:
🤣😎

I actually did give that a go. Tried a bunch of free numbers from many countries on quackr but none worked, so surrendered to a SIM. 🤠
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] Sheist!:
I did enjoy OpenOffice until their core jumped ship for LibreOffice, which I use now.

I also use and like Rufus (FLOSS), also available portably. (y)
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] Sheist!:
Pavel Durov Unofficial 4.9k subscribers? I can't find any official. Actually, only get 3-4 returns at all using those 2 words.
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] Sheist!:
Now you know why I can't give up my Drive. :sneaky:

Technically, can still use a browser on any phone for it, but I really enjoy the convenience of the app. Tried/used both Box and Dropbox historically.
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] pnin:
ℹ️ It got somewhat obfuscated a couple of years ago... It's now called "Du Rove's Channel" and it's at t.me/durov...
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] Sheist!:
Battery life is outstanding in this ROM, which is no surprise at all sans gapps. (y)
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] pnin:
Interesting: It seems Murena now has a partnership with Fairphone, with the latter newest model shipping with eOS...

Murena and Fairphone's Earth-Friendly Partnership - Murena - deGoogled phones and services

In a world where the health of our planet is increasingly under threat, it's imperative that we seek out alternatives that prioritize sustainability and environmental responsibility. The tech industry, notorious for its rapid turnover of products and disregard for ecological impacts, is ripe for...

murena.com
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] Sheist!:
499 pounds, 626 USD minimum, wow. They are pushing iPhone prices. Why? Aren't recycled parts cheaper as a result? Also bizarre they still use removable batteries; this guarantees paying their retail price for replacements. I miss the removable batteries but not liking their forced economic model here. The removable battery market doesn't exist anymore. Xiaomi's price is many times cheaper; I think we are price hooked already.
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] pnin:
Replaceable batteries will soon be mandatory in all devices sold in the European Union, so I guess Fairphone is just bleeding edging here.

I agree the price is on the steep side, but this is potentially a perennial repairable/upgradable device so there is that...
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] Sheist!:
All EU phones, are you sure? I need to Google for some URLs. Are they mandating a return to rotary dialing too? (joking) 😄

It is the better lithium ion battery (like Samsung) instead of the cheaper lithium polymer. Their battery is below 4000, though, and it should be 5k duration.

UPDATE: They have some time. "This requirement will be enforced from February 18, 2027."
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] pnin:
We all know batteries have huge social (cf. Congo) and environmental costs... The EU is trying to do its (avowedly) small part. 📗 🇺🇳
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] pnin:
And Wired just published (2024-05-22) a pretty accurate review of eOS...

https://www.wired.com/story/e-os-review/​

The main misses the article points at are geolocation performance, TTS, and lack of integral backups -- plus the general increase in attack surface that comes with unlocking bootloaders to install custom ROMs. 😐
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] Sheist!:
The OTA update was flawless. I still reach for a Google app occasionally and remember, oh yeah, almost none on this phone. :D
[Android Head-Units] Burak71:
Herkese iyi günler, K2001N FYDZ S21 ürün yazılımım var 24.20211230.111315.H4F9.01,

Android sürümünü güncellemek istiyorum. K2001N_NWD

Gibi farklı bir sürüm kullanabilir miyim yoksa aynı K2001N_FYDZ sürümünü mü kullanmam gerekecek? Teşekkür ederim

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Moderator edit: post translated by BIGWORM:

Good day everyone, I have K2001N FYDZ S21 firmware 24.20211230.111315.H4F9.01,

I want to update the Android version. K2001N_NWD

Can I use a different version like or will I have to use the same K2001N_FYDZ version? Thank you
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] Wkexe:
Hello,

I have a Poco F5 Pro with rom MIUI Global 14.07.0 (TMNEUXM). Since it is EU rom it uses google dialer and doesn't have phone calls recorder. So I want to flash it with latest global rom (non EU) that I can find. I found on https://new.c.mi.com/global/miuidownload/detail/device/1900585 ->flashing guide -> fastboot -> POCO F5 Pro Latest Global Stable Version Fastboot File Downloand - file: mondrian_global_images_OS1.0.3.0.UMNMIXM_20240204.0000.00_14.0_global_7428ae7d24

I know I have to unlock bootloander, so I am waiting for it (142h left).

I have few questions:

1. Does this rom that I pointed have Xiaomi dialer that has phone recording?

2. Is it the right rom for my phone at all?

3. Can I lock the phone during flashing with MiFlash? (on bottom right I select clean all and lock instead of clean all) or will it brick my phone?

4. If not, can I lock the phone after flashing? I want to use banking apps nad google pay.

*I have a update info to update to OS1.0.30.UMNEUXM (HyperOS) - should I update before flashing or not? (I think if I do update I will have to delete those 8 lines that prevents rolback in the bat file if I update to HyperOS now and try to flash global rom when the phone will be unlocked?).

Thank you in advance for all the replays.
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] NOSS8:
Nope,Either you install a Taiwanese stock rom or a Xiaomi Eu rom (custom rom) to have the Miui dialer.

With a stock ROM you can relock the bootloader except with a CN ROM.
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] khusika:
Hi @Wkexe, Welcome to XDA!

Let me answer your question at each point

1. Only Indonesia & Taiwan region come with pre-installed Xiaomi apps.

2. The link you mentioned above is correct,, as an alternative you can also grab from xiaomifirmwareupdater.

3. Yes, you can perform install with lock the bootloader

4. Answered in No 3

OS1.0.30.UMNEUXM is the latest global firmware for Poco F5 Pro, by doing clean and install it will upgrade your firmware to the latest version.
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] Wkexe:
Wow, thank you for such quick anwsers :).

So for call recording instead of Global "global" version I should use: POCO F5 Pro Latest TW Stable Version Fastboot File Downloand "mondrian_tw_global_images_OS1.0.3.0.UMNTWXM_20240111.0000.00_14.0_tw_f6a12af0ac.tgz"

So if I understand I can change betwen EEA, Global, TR, TW version and lock bootloader, but If i want to install Xiaomi EU (which is a custom rom), locking bootloander will brick the phone?

Thank you for your anwsers once again. I will flash Taiwan version.
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] khusika:
If you are in locked state, you can not switch between of them and also you cannot run xiaomi.eu with locked bootloader
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] NOSS8:
Yep, but the Xiaomi Eu rom cannot be installed with Miflash and everything works with the unlocked bootloader and without root.

In case for the TW rom:

MIFLASH[GUIDE]⚙ USE XIAOMI FLASH TOOL

FOR ALL XIAOMI BOOTLOADER MUST BE UNLOCKED MIUI https://new.c.mi.com/global/post/101245 https://en.miui.com/unlock/index.html HYPEROS GLOBAL https://xdaforums.com/t/how-to-unlock-bootloader-on-xiaomi-hyperos.4654009/...

xdaforums.com
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] Wkexe:
Thank you again for answers. So, if i unlock the device, flash global TW rom, can I lock it again? And will it work? I live in EU.
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] NOSS8:
Yep, but I recommend a Xiaomi Eu rom.
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] Wkexe:
I don't want a Xiaomi EU rom - I use banking apps and google pay, and i've read that they can suddenly stop working and flashing TW rom looks much easier that Xiaomi Eu rom :).

Is there any difference between global EU rom and global TW rom? Beside dialer app? Is there any downsides of using TW rom instead of global EU or global global rom?
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] NOSS8:
Some missing options and apps and themes for this country.

For Xiaomi Eu rom the fix arrives quickly here:

Xiaomi.eu Multilang MIUI ROMs - Browse /xiaomi.eu/Xiaomi.eu-app at SourceForge.net

OFFICIAL mirror of MIUI Multilang ROM by https://xiaomi.eu/

sourceforge.net
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] Wkexe:
Thank you very much for everthing :). Going to install global TW - check it, if it will be bad i will check Xiaomi EU.
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] vickmen:
If you have a good command of English, your only solution is the Chinese ROM that provides call recording. I use it and it works great. I recommend it, but be careful, you have to unlock the bootloader first.;)
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] NOSS8:
With a CN ROM, it will not be possible to lock the bootloader unlike with the TW.
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] vickmen:
He doesn't want to lock the bootloader, he wants to record calls natively, so if he has the bootloader unlocked, I gave him an option to have it with the CN rom.
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] NOSS8:
Yep, but he will have to root and install Magisk modules for the banking and payment apps to work and each update to start again and if Google modifies the certification parameters again as it did several times a few months ago, it have to wait for the fixes.

And this rom is not multi languages.
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] vickmen:
I simply told him how to have the call recorder without root with an official rom, that's what I mean
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] Wkexe:
I want to lock bootloander :) and not root or do anything to the phone. I'm to old for patching, fixing, custom roms etc. I just need the phone to work all times and have call recordings so I want to change to official room. Now I had Poco F1 but it has a cracked screen and dead battery - and I would buy another one but they don't make it anymore ;). Once again - thank you for evey answer, you helped me a lot. I will wait for the wait period to end, unlock the phone and flash official global TW version and lock the phone. If the soft will be not sufficient, then I will try probably Xiaomi EU since it will require rooting anyway to have bank apps.
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] vickmen:
Now I understand everything ok ok
[Poco F5 Pro / Redmi K60 (China)] Wkexe:
Hey, just wanted to update you about the rom change. So, after 1 week I could finally unlock the phone, it went fine, used yt tutorials. After that I installed latest fastboot software for the phone – “mondrian_tw_global_images_OS1.0.3.0.UMNTWXM_20240111.0000.00_14.0_tw_f6a12af0ac.tgz” – that is Hyper OS – also using yt tutorials. In flash tool I selected flash and lock (Warning: I had phone with official EU rom, not Chinese version). Phone works just fine, I have Xiaomi dialer so I can record calls just like I had in Poco F1 (just remember that in android auto it still uses AA dialer, so no call recording then). Every bank app works just fine, without any warnings. I live in Poland, and in Tajwan rom there is Polish language and other languages (list was very long, also I have set it to Polish region). I have it 2 days now and I could not tell any difference from EU rom, beside call recordings. Bloatware is a bit different that EU, but manageable. No battery drain or any other weird behavior, all the bands (LTE, 5G etc) are present.

I want to thank again every one that helped me in this thread 😊. Thank you very much! :)
[Galaxy Grand Duos i9082 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Alexandre4119:
Hi, i wanted to manage to get "Wifi" on LineageOS 14 but it crashes every times. I Shared 2 roms.

The first one is a unstable CM12 ROM but has WiFi that works . The Second is the LineageOS 14 that crashes every time i connect to Wifi.

If anyone has an idea on how fo fix please tell. Any help will be appreciated

(KNUXIFY has created the 2 roms)

If you didn't understood something please tell it (Im using Google Traduction)
[Device Repair] egerlachca:
I have a water-damaged Pixel 3a that I'm trying to get back to life for a few hours to get some data off it one last time. I took it apart to look for obvious damage but I don't see any obviously damaged components. Does anyone know of a way to narrow down what might be damaged, or is my best option to pick up a used one and swap the mobo in to see if it works?

Happy to post pictures if that would help.
[Device Repair] blackhawk:
Pull battery connector immediately.

Liberally flush mobo with anhydrous isopropyl alcohol (>96%), remove as much of the alcohol as possible in a warm dry room. Low pressure dry, clean blower air from a shop vac can be used, carefully.

Lay on side with a strong fan on it in a warm dry room (80-110F) for at least 2 days. It may boot.

It may operate for a while.

Replacing the mobo won't retrieve the data. Connectors may also eventually fail from water exposure. Pretty much totaled more than likely.
[Device Repair] egerlachca:
Thanks for the quick response. I've had it disassembled for a day or so. Sadly my only isopropyl alcohol is 70%, will need to get some tomorrow. I've kept it in a dry place, but I'll move it to somewhere warmer.

My comment about the motherboard was under the assumption that it wasn't the damaged part, but some other part was, so swapping it into another phone might give it a chance.

Do you know what the minimum set of parts needed to get a Pixel 3a to boot are? If I can leave something off and still have the phone work, it should reduce the complexity of the problem.
[Device Repair] blackhawk:
All electronics need to be connected to boot.

Once apart the separate components are susceptible to ESD damage particularly the mobo. Do Not attempt to power it up until completely dry.

The SOC and other chipsets are PGA form factor. Their under sides must be dry!

The connectors tend to harbor water as well which is why anhydrous isopropyl alcohol is good as it absorbs the water and hastens drying.

Water damage is insidious especially if the battery wasn't pulled immediately. If it was brine water it's already dead. You may be able to save it but don't get your hope too high.
[Device Repair] egerlachca:
Good news is everything critical is backed up. Bad news is that there's enough non-critical stuff that isn't backed up that it's worth putting in some effort to restore.

I'm doing all my work on it while grounded with a good ESD strap and I'm only using ESD-rated tools to touch the parts. This isn't my first rodeo, just my first rodeo with a phone.

In your experience, if I flush with alcohol, then let dry for 48 hours in a warm, dry room, then reassemble, and it doesn't work, is there any point in trying the mobo in another device? Are there other critical parts that can die from water damage that would be indistingushable from mobo damage? (daughterboard? battery?)
[Device Repair] blackhawk:
It must be dry. Longer is better. Heat drives moisture out and put a strong fan it too.

You can pull a connector or two and check for water or signs of corrosion. Corrosion if present will be around the V+ buses.

If the mobo is dead the display may be ok... or not.