yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] LLStarks:
Working RCS and wallet with latest husky beta print. It's basically the whole build.prop.

Apatch, pif 16.3, Zygisk next
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] rester555:
Yes, it's really stupid.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] rester555:
Where is the print located?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] LLStarks:
Usually /system or /product and then feed it through pif manager in Pixel flasher. Smart copy doesn't seem to work that well though.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] rester555:
oh is this a part of PIF 16.3?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] LLStarks:
No
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] rester555:
Oh, I understand now. Thanks!
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] djhotsauce:
thank you. i was able to get it working just by switching from Magisk to APatch.

Haven't tested wallet, but RCS works.

didnt need to use the beta print.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] speakeasy2:
Can anyone let me know how to get a patch working. It won't let me patch the init image I have
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] travisjshepherd:
How did you switch? I don't really understand the instructions on the apatch site
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] djhotsauce:
I uninstalled magisk reboot, and flashed APatch via Pixelflasher.

Then reinstall my modules.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] travisjshepherd:
running apatch, pif 16.3, and zygisk next. still no rcs
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] travisjshepherd:
And I can't get lsposed to work
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] Ducter:
Fellas.... I know what it's like to chase something but I'm going to offer my advice. Let it go, I did and after a few days it's now freeing. I've kicked Google more and more out of my life and truthfully no complaints, they may get to dictate if their services work on my phone but I get to dictate if they remain services on my phone. I'm down to photos and maps. I'll admit, I've not found great alternatives for those 2 but I will.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] x111:
everyone should join this philosophy !!
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] lm8lm8:
on my own, i disadvice seriously people and my relative to use google/meta/whapp/imessage technology.

just few are nice, including xmpp standardized one, where daniel gultsch did a georgous work.

why not using the opened-standardized one, compatible with almost all os, from desktop/servers to phones, protocol?

xmpp is for instant and secured messaging (+voip) what email is for standard electronic communications.

a bit like people using federated-toip through sip protocol.. interoperable, perfect! :)

it was just my little recommendation, by a random xda nerd whom is a bit disappointed using gafam solutions (i have nothing anymore at them)
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] Ducter:
I'll look into xmpp, I use signal for messaging with my family and have for years now but I own a small business and surprisingly a large amount of follow-ups are via text. I lost 2 days of messages because Google's shenanigans, that was my last straw. Today it's messaging, what's tomorrow? I even went as far as canceling my Google workspace, pulled me emails and everything.

Hellboard with swipe libraries replaced gboard, FUTO for voice input, proton for personal mail, zoho for business, bitwarden for passwords, open sourced 2fa and so on. Photos is gonna be hard because I've used it since the T-Mobile g1 and have hundreds of gigs but looking into self hosting currently.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
Yeah I gave up checking on RCS. Hell, I still get my messages. So what if it's not enhanced messaging?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] travisjshepherd:
I think I might just go back to magisk too. Some of the modules don't work on apatch.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] ctonylee65:
CRDroid new weekly update claims they have it fixed.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] borisSweden:
Futo also has a keyboard and the license for the Voice Input includes it so I believe they will switch development to the keyboard as the primary option. Storage is pretty easy, either you buy a read to go box with preinstalled software or you build it yourself.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] Ducter:
Does the keyboard have swipe? I'll have to check it out.

It's not the storage that's my issue. I have a media server I've put together running proxmox the problem I have is actually getting my photos and videos downloaded. Google doesn't make it easy, I've tried downloading and unless I do 1 at a time I ended up with large zips that the metadata and exif data had been separated from media.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
Yeah I hate that!
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] borisSweden:
Yes, it what AOSP should have but the predictability uses the same preinstalled machine learning algorithm.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] ctonylee65:
CRDroid does have this fixed. It's working perfectly
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] LLStarks:
A lot of recent research

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[Google Pixel 8 Pro] rester555:
It is sad that Google does this. They won't win the walled-garden war. On to iPhone for most I assume.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
Why would Android users go to iPhone over something like this when there are other perfectly good Android phones like OnePlus, Samsung, etc?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] borisSweden:
People's logic is that if Google tries to be more like Apple, there's no reason to pick Android as a phone OS. Apple has kind of been fixed in some regard like USB Type C, RCS and side loading, alternative app stores plus the end of the Safari Monopoly.

Users still have the wrong mentality for this. We should look for alternative services to replace Googles. Messaging is easy. There are tons of apps that doesn't demand stupid crap like play integrity.Search, maps, appstores is easy, storage is possible and payment should be on its way, like GNU Taler.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] rester555:
Agreed... Signal is the best alternative... BUT A BIG issue with this is convincing EVERYONE in your circle to download Signal or some other medium. Somehow if you could tie it to a phone number, it would be much simpler. Hence why RCS UP would have been the preferred method, but now it's Google under their walled garden for messaging.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] borisSweden:
Thats not the issue, it will be harder to keep the powerusers if ChatControl2.0 passes.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] Spookymyo:
I've always put Messages in the deny list, RCS is still broken for me.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] DespairFactor:
Thank you for dropping this here, I was not aware of ChatControl2.0, this is messed up seriously
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] borisSweden:
Old politans who doesn't understand tech, I sent mail to all my MEP not to say yes. They do some good work, like GDPR but they pass worse copyright law. Great punishment towards DotCom but then they add this crap like CC2
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] justDave:
You're being too generous. If it's anything like the US, it's not that they don't understand. It's that they understand very well who can pay them more.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] Ducter:
Testing it out currently, I will say I like that it supports obtainium directly. The accuracy while swiping seems pretty low but that's been the same for everything besides gboard.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] gettinwicked:
Doubt it. I've known very few Android users go to iPhone's. Regardless of our root issues, Android is still way more customizable than an iPhone. And Samsung's take it to another level.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
Bingo!
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
Neither was I.

Jeez.... :(

I mean, I get the jist but scrutinizing every message sent?

That will just send more to a more secure way to chat
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] Lughnasadh:
FYI, for those who decide to turn off RCS...

Turning off RCS? Google Messages will soon warn you about your group chats (APK teardown)

Disabling RCS for 30 days will cause you to exit group chats, and Google Messages will soon warn you about the same. Read on for more!

www.androidauthority.com
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] djhotsauce:
I hope this helps but this is what I have to get RCS working.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] toolhas4degrees:
I think iconify uses zygisk. But maybe not. Maybe can be done with riru and lsposed.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] speakeasy2:
Are you running magisk?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] djhotsauce:
No I'm using apatch
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] speakeasy2:
I am as well and minutes your mods and no luck with rcs. Could you explain how you got it to work?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] djhotsauce:
Disable PIF reboot.

Test RCS.

I enable PIF this morning and RCS still working.

At this point I think it's a hit or miss.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] travisjshepherd:
Yes, iconify does use zygisk. Even with all of the recommended modules, I still don't have full use of iconify. Going to switch back to magisk tomorrow.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] djhotsauce:
Zygisk Next + Lposed v1.9.3_mod (7244) is what is needed for Iconify to work with a patch.

Link for Lposed:

https://github.com/mywalkb/LSPosed_mod/releases/download/v1.9.3_mod/LSPosed-v1.9.3_mod-7244-zygisk-release.zip
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] speakeasy2:
I uninstalled pif and now it says rcs is working.. that's odd, but it's doesn't meet strong integrity
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] mlord:
Never had a problem with RCS, including after the June 11/2024 update. All good.

But.. UBER.. the Uber Rides app finally succumbed. Others have been reporting it every now and then, and it finally happened here. No main screen, very reduced functionality, no hints.

We're doing a LOT of travel these days, and need the travel apps (like Uber) to work reliably. Most of them already required denylist treatment to even start up, and just a matter of time for others to stop altogether. So.. wiped phone, restored stock, locked bootloader, and reinstalled all my apps. PITA. But Uber now works.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
I've never passed strong integrity, albeit I use Magisk
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
If you go to an RCS conversation, click on the settings and details, it shows RCS connected?? Or are you only looking on the RCS settings for the app itself?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] justDave:
Uber doesn't need an app... https://m.uber.com
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] rester555:
To me it is no coincidence that RCS was locked down on Android as Apple was implementing their RCS integration. This seems so planned.

Reminds me of the carriers and the Galaxy Nexus shenanigans.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] sic0048:
I suspect you do have a problem, you just don't even realize it. If you look at the RSC Chat settings in Messenger, it will show "Connected" in green. That doesn't mean it is actually working however. If you check the individual messages you have sent, they will likely show that you are using SMS. If you have the "Automatically resend as text (SMS/MMS)" option turned on, this has been happening automatically and it wouldn't be surprising that you don't even realize that you aren't able to use RCS.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] travisjshepherd:
Never thought about it that way, but it is awfully strange.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] rester555:
I understand the need for privacy and end-to-end encryption. But if you're a root user, why not give the individual a choice. Messaging should be something that is transparent and open.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] travisjshepherd:
And I have been an Android user with the same number since 2009. Are you telling me there's no way for them to verify my number is valid?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] rester555:
I think it's more about the integrity of the encrypted messaging databases. They know that people can mess with all kinds of meta-data when root is given. So it allows for man-in-the-middle attacks. I don't think it's an issue of breaking the E2EE encryption but the data accessed with root around it.

To me it's a copout. We have had Windows and Linux for 30 to 40 years now and we have had administrative / su rights. Why phone companies think they can just stop people from using their hardware for administrative purposes is beyond me. I feel like Google is trying to be the IT department with their hardware and determining how much you can use their hardware. Everyone loves the idea of SaaS or DaaS.

See Windows 11 Recall and other features now. Server side checks for every action you take.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] Spookymyo:
Waze, IMO, is better than google maps in just about every way. Give it a try. I'm with you on Photos though.

And I've been trying Fossify SMS Messenger for a few weeks now and I gotta say I'm liking it. It even has material color theme. It's on FDroid and of course it's open source. There's other Fossify apps too, even a gallery app.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] chill145:
Waze is owned by Google
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] Dr.No.pt:
My RCS chat is broken for 1 person only. Everyone else is ok. Don't get it.

Shouldn't it be either on or off ?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] justDave:
I had something like that after I got RCS working again. One phone was sending in RCS, it was being received as RCS but I could only reply in SMS. Go into that conversation, click the 3 dots in the upper left corner, then details. See if the toggle next to "Only send SMS & MMS messages" is set.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] wangdaning:
It might be that if you are rooted you can actually get end to end encryption that Google cannot decrypt. Meaning if they are asked to share your messages they cannot.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
Are other rooted devices like the OnePlus, et al having this issue?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] BillGoss:
I have my OP 8T set up the same way as my P8P. And everything (Wallet, RCS, device integrity) works on both devices.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
That's why my next phone will be the OnePlus 13 when it comes out, I'm thinking
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
Yeah it's a solid Messaging app.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] Dr.No.pt:
In client details doesn't have anything like other chats with RCS working. It's the only number which RCS is not working. No clue why, It was in the past. Done nothing.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] Darkojovanoski1986:
is there anyway to have rcs working on stock rom with any root method? on custom roms rcs is working with apatch root method but on stock it looks like google have more options to reckognise and to block? maybe they just check the unlock bootloader in devloper options and block rcs by default?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] BillGoss:
Lots of info on this in https://xdaforums.com/t/module-play-integrity-fix-safetynet-fix.4607985/

Short answer: Yes
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] mlord:
It always showed connected, and I even saw "typing.." indications during messaging sessions. So RCS was most definitely still working.

Now of course, everything works, as the phone is back to unrooted, locked, stock. Cannot back up anything any more, but the travel apps all work reliably which is what we need.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] Darkojovanoski1986:
Don't know why but the combo Magisk and Zygisk plus modules not working on stock rom, same with KernelSU, for other combos I don't know...
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] BillGoss:
I'm on Magisk 27 stable, PIFork 9.0 and no other modules. I'm A15 beta 3 and everything works perfectly.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
You're not using Zygist?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] somethingsomethingroot:
Apatch, PIF, and Zygisk Next was working for a few hours. Now it's not. I really can't call it.

The part where Google doesn't tell when you it's broken makes this all the more frustrating.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] BillGoss:
Sorry, I should have mentioned it as well. It's enabled in Magisk.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] Darkojovanoski1986:
I quess installing other kernel than stock like Sultan will break it?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
Maybe that's it. I'm gonna try in the July update to see if that's the case
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] Darkojovanoski1986:
I miss the days when we installed custom roms to get even more stuff without losing anything from what device actually give you.

On topic, I read that famous list where all known roms/kernels imprints are put on the "black list" by google. It's strange becouse even Crdroid rom is there but rcs works flawlessly on it with or without root.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] Spookymyo:
I know this. But it's a better app. It doesn't spy as much as google maps...yet.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] Slim2none4u:
for as long as it lasts

"In December 2022, Google announced that it would merge the Waze and Google Maps teams, but that the move was not expected to end Waze as a separate service. As of June 2023, Google has been merging Waze with its own mapping products, and has also cut jobs at Waze as part of company-wide cost-cutting efforts."
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
What the most weird is the good ol days when Google released source code on every update and every kernel and ENCOURAGED people to develop mods and tweaks
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] nutzfreelance:
that was before google started making billions with android. no one wants to risk freedom from profits.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] jcesarm71@gmail.com:
RCS messaging has nothing to do with bootloader being unlocked or being rooted, my wife has a Pixel 8 pro the phone bootloader is locked and is not rooted and RCS messaging is not working either, so i think is a carrier issue i mean T-Mobile , Verizon, etc
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] jcesarm71@gmail.com:
i have a pixel 8 pro locked bootloader and no root and RCS is not working as well, so is not the rooting nor the unlocked bootloader that is causing RCS messaging to stop working, is ether Google T-Mobile or Verizon
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] rester555:
I went back to stock to get RCS working and it does. But I can't get Google wallet to add a card. Which is really odd. It just gives me a can message saying that the card can't be activated and to contact the card issuer
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] jcesarm71@gmail.com:
When you back stock it works for a day or two then it brakes again
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] rester555:
Interesting. I will monitor. Mine hasn't broken
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] rester555:
RCS is still working fine here. Two days now. Still can't get google wallet working. Thankfully I have the pixel watch 2 for the CCs. No issues using the watch.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] BlaaaaazedUp:
Haha this happened to me at least once every 6 months or so.

You have a certain amount of device tokens. If you're constantly flashing ROMs that are spoofed as different devices then On their end it looks like your card is attached to multiple phones. Eventually you reach the limit and they have to detach them from all.

You can avoid this by COMPLETELY removing it from your Google account BEFORE flashing a new ROM. Then you have to add it back.

You may actually have to contact your card provider and have them clear your device tokens first
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] rester555:
And of course, they don't tell you about this. This is so dumb. At least have it in your literature somewhere.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] BillGoss:
Given that this only happens when people root their phones, which is a VERY small percentage of phone users, why would they?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] Spookymyo:
I can verify this is the truth. I had to call and get everything detached from my card. This was a while ago and I remove my card before I flash a rom, or root, or clean wipe, and I haven't had a problem with adding a card since.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] travisjshepherd:
Heads up, pif 16.6 beta does in fact fix rcs
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] rester555:
Link to thread?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] travisjshepherd:
🔧 [MODULE] Play Integrity Fix (SafetyNet fix)

PLAY INTEGRITY FIX This module tries to fix Play Integrity and SafetyNet verdicts to get a valid attestation. BEFORE YOU START: - Your ROM must be signed with a private key from maintainer, you can check with this command: unzip -l...

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[Google Pixel 8 Pro] travisjshepherd:
It's in actions on GitHub
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] murphyjasonc:
Just updated to 16.6 and RCS is working for me now as well. Hopefully it will last.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] gpvecchi:
Can't find a compiled version...
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] murphyjasonc:
I found it on Telegram. You can download it from my Google drive if you wish. Here is the link PIF 16.6
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] travisjshepherd:
Wasn't sure if I was allowed to link it to this thread, so I PM'd you.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] gpvecchi:
I found the page, but where's download link?

The link points to Sultan kernel... :)
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] murphyjasonc:
Clicked the wrong file. Lol. Try this one https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gk42jOzOBL5HTXuDWAfnP9lUMSQ8LBPw/view?usp=drivesdk
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] Joshsha:
This has been a losing game of whack a mole, I'm passing basic and device integrity, RCS shows connected, Google Wallet works fine, banking apps work fine, but RCS just refuses to send or recieve any messages. Previously I could downgrade Google Messages to get RCS back but that's stopped working.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
Well, tried Magisk Canary w/Play Integrity Fork, Zygisk and Shamiko and no dice
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
Gotta zipped version?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] murphyjasonc:
Try this.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
Holy crap it works with Magisk Canary!

Hope it lasts
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] bombadier:
It will, for about 6 weeks

🔧 [MODULE] Play Integrity Fix (SafetyNet fix)

PLAY INTEGRITY FIX This module tries to fix Play Integrity and SafetyNet verdicts to get a valid attestation. BEFORE YOU START: - Your ROM must be signed with a private key from maintainer, you can check with this command: unzip -l...

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[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
Better than 0.

I should have said with PIF16.6, also running Zygist and Shamiko. Not sure if Shamiko is helping or not since I flashed that with Magisk Canary, but I'm not going to bother removing it.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] murphyjasonc:
It works for me without Samiko but I'd still leave it alone.
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] bombadier:
It's the fingerprint included in pif 16.6 that's not banned for RCS, seems the beta print works for both RCS and wallet at the moment
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] travisjshepherd:
Not anymore
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] travisjshepherd:
Is this an issue with custom roms?
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
Yep, banned again!
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] bombadier:
Yeah those beta prints have an expiry date,I made the switch to tricky store yesterday in the nick of time by the looks as I am still passing device and basic

Further info
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
Too much reading for 7AM lol

This is a Magisk APatch module to replace or work with Pif x.x or instead of?

A lot of times, 0sm0sis and Chitermon, et al get to talking in technical terms outside of my 60-year-old brain
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] bombadier:
Im not an expert but it will ultimately replace PIF, if your setup has stopped working you just need a new beta print which you can get from the 16.9 release I just use normal magisk, would have to read further about apatch but am sure some knowledgeable types will show up to clarify things, if PIF was working before you just need a new print as the husky beta print just expired a couple of days earlier as expected, so to recap you just need to replace the print you were using with a new beta one
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
I use Magisk alsp (With Zygisk and Shamiko). In the PiF thread, 16.9 isn't passing. Just reading the linked Tricky Box thread now
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] bombadier:
Havent seen any other comments about the new beta print not working, fast evolving situation, but if you are using normal magisk then TS(CI build linked in the TS Thread first post) + Shamiko should get both Device/Basic and RCS working, that config is working for me on my PIxel 7a
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
So you're not using Zygisk and obviously not PiF
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] bombadier:
Not using Zygisk Assistant if that's what you mean Zygisk is on in magisk not enforcing,

Magisk latest canary 27006,Ci build TS,latest Shamiko 1.1.1(357) you can download them from the first post in the TS thread,Flash shamiko,uninstall PIF,Flash the ci TS build and you should be good
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
Already running Canary and latest Shamiko and figured I could disable pIf, just wasn't sure abut Zygisk but I see in the TB thread, 0sm0sis explained it pretty well.

Thx man!
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] bombadier:
Report back how you get on 👍
[Google Pixel 8 Pro] HipKat:
Tricky Box got RCS back, Basic and Device passing