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[Magisk] pndwal:
Support for various methods of Zygisk injection/loading have been added to the Shamiko hiding module with various level of success... Assume Shamiko is also active in each case following:

Citibank began detecting original LD_PRELOAD loaded Zygisk some time ago, and some users moved to Alpha for native bridge loaded Zygisk which wasn't detected... Then official Magisk refactored Zygisk for native bridge loading... Seems banks incl. Citibank have begun detecting this too, but as recently as May Citibank users on XDA confirmed detection could be bypassed using ptrace+fuse loaded Zygisk by installing the ZygiskNext module...

Meanwhile, banks like Starling have evidently begun detecting that also... ZygiskNext seems to have the hide-ability advantage ATM however.

Hope it helps, 🤠 PW
[Magisk] pndwal:
Shouldn't clash according to OP...

👍

Check in Ruru Detector that LSPosed, modules etc are hidden properly... Can try TB Checker also.

May be yet, with Shamiko added. (I'd try with and without Zygisk Assistant if haven't already.)

🤠 PW
[Magisk] godecij942:
Oh I guess you meant ZygiskAssistant only, since ZygiskNEXT requires Magisk's own zygisk to be turned off under settings while Shamiko and Assistant needs it on.

But anyway I cycled through all the iterations of Shamiko - Assistant - NEXT combos like you suggested with reboots and app clears in-between, unfortunately none worked. Lsposed not detected and once again simply turning off NEXT as well as magisk's own zygisk was the only thing that allowed the app to run.
[Magisk] sawdoctor:
Have you tried HMA in whitelist mode? I had to use shamiko, HMA and zygisk-assistant together to get my bank app working
[Magisk] pndwal:
🤔

Why would Shamiko and Assistant need inbuilt Zygisk on?... They're both compatible with ZygiskNext (p-trace+fuse loading)! 🙃 PW
[Magisk] qwert8988:
Already on magisk alpha+shamiko+zygisknext+zygisk assistant+HMA whitelist+pot+playcurl still cannot work...
[Magisk] godecij942:
Yep that's what I have already been using. Have no issues with banking or payment apps (ages ago citibank was able to detect root but HMA fixed that). Like I also said above it doesn't seem to be a Lsposed issue since simply turning off zygisk under magisk settings allows this app to work, with everything else unchanged. But obviously this disables all the zygisk-dependent modules such as shamiko and lsposed etc. Which is why I was originally hoping having NEXT + Assistant would solve that but unfortuantely not for some reason.

Apologies I think there might be some misunderstanding of the situation or wires getting crossed lol.

Of course with ZygiskNEXT installed magisk's own zygisk is turned off in the settings. But anyway like I said above I tried all the different combos of turning on and off NEXT + Assistant + Shamiko and the app is still detecting zygisk somehow.
[Magisk] xerves78:
hi,

i cant get some app running with magisk

the apps dont starting / freeze

f.e.

MeinVodafone

https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/vodafone-gmbh/meinvodafone/meinvodafone-14-3-1-0-0-release/

or

MobilesBezahlen / Sparkasse / Bank App

Mobiles Bezahlen 6.1.0(6100004) APK Download by S-Payment GmbH - APKMirror

Mobiles Bezahlen 6.1.0(6100004) APK Download by S-Payment GmbH - APKMirror Free and safe Android APK downloads

www.apkmirror.com

i try Shamiko, Zygisk Assistent and ZygiskNext

and add the apps in the deny list

but the apps dont start

if i enable "enforce deny list" the apps starting, so it is a magisk problem

thx
[Magisk] Isa Daud:
For KernelSU & APatch users:

Install ZygiskNext or a fork of it.

Make sure the unmount setting is enabled for the target app in the KernelSU/APatch Manager.

iam using apatch, and where is unmount setting in apatch? my mbanking won't open after using apatch. thanks before. need a guidance.
[Magisk] pershoot:
Try this (APatch):

Superuser tab -> Click on the app -> Exclude Modifications
[Magisk] sawdoctor:
Having trouble with the last shamiko released today. If i enable both shamiko and zygisk-assistant then any app in my deny list refuses to open
[Magisk] osm0sis:
I found even Shamiko 1.1 alone causes that, so we'll have to wait for the 1.1.1 release I guess.
[Magisk] sawdoctor:
I can get the latest shamiko 1.1 344 from today to work with latest magisk canary from today but i can't get it to work with zygisk assistant. ATM is one or the other.

On a side note I'm having trouble with some Google apps FC on me especially Google maps. It's started after updating to latest magisk canary and appears as if it only happens with zygisk assistant rather than shamiko but too soon to tell. It's getting to the stage i might need a full wipe to eliminate the curplrit
[Magisk] osm0sis:
When I flashed Shamiko 1.1(344) I had Magisk uninstall Zygisk Assistant at the same time. After the reboot everything in the DenyList was instantly crashing, and only Shamiko was installed, so I think the problem lies there. No issues with only Zygisk Assistant here. This is on my Pixel 8 Pro.
[Magisk] LLStarks:
MyHyundai keeps detecting something and crashing immediately.
[Magisk] sawdoctor:
Unfortunately one of my apps detects root with just zygisk assistant which is a pia so might just downgrade

Quilter - Apps on Google Play

Connect to your Quilter platform investments with our secure customer app.

play.google.com
[Magisk] cabagekiller:
What rooting method are you using? I'm using apatch with zygisk assistant and it opens just fine.
[Magisk] sawdoctor:
Using latest magisk canary. It worked fine with shamiko and zygisk-assistant together but since updating magisk I can only use one or the other and unfortunately it needs both. I may just downgrade magisk as it's easiest option
[Magisk] zgfg:
You used both Shamiko and Assistant and both were active?

Now, with Magisk 27003, Shamiko works for you (with Assistant disabled)?
[Magisk] sawdoctor:
With latest magisk canary from today 27003 i can use either zygisk assistant or latest shamiko from today . Both work well apart from the one troublesome app. If i enable them both together then i can't open any app on the deny list.

With previous magisk and previous shamiko i could use both shamiko and zygisk-assistant together and then all my apps worked
[Magisk] zgfg:
1) With v27003, when I forgot to disable Shamiko and I installed Assistant - Zygisk was not hidden for me (neither of the two worked)

2) For (new) Shamiko and Canary 27003 - ok, I see, you mean the hot new Shamiko (previous did not work with 27003)
[Magisk] sawdoctor:
Yes latest shamiko released today works with latest magisk canary released today but you can only have shamiko or zygisk assistant enabled now where you could enable them both at the same time before. Unfortunately this has caused one app to now detect root
[Magisk] mansg:
Hello everyone. I have a problem can not use the itsme app since the may update. Is there anybody who could help please? Thanks

itsme®, de identiteitsapp

Veilig laten weten wie je bent, makkelijk inloggen, transacties bevestigen en documenten ondertekenen. Allemaal met 1 app.

www.itsme-id.com
[Magisk] ualexen92:
For those that use this with Shamiko you don't actually need both, I notice Shamiko does way better job in hiding root and if the apps is still detected just get https://github.com/Dr-TSNG/Hide-My-Applist and hide everything related to LSPosed & Magisk

I use before both and I had some random crashed on zygote64 but after updating to 27003 I had to remove the Assistance. I get no crashed and everything work as expected. With Assistance you get incorporated HMA ¿? not sure but I'm waiting for an update regarding the last Magisk version
[Magisk] xerves78:
i cant get a app working with magisk :(

MobilesBezahlen / Sparkasse / Bank App

Mobiles Bezahlen 6.1.0(6100004) APK Download by S-Payment GmbH - APKMirror

Mobiles Bezahlen 6.1.0(6100004) APK Download by S-Payment GmbH - APKMirror Free and safe Android APK downloads

www.apkmirror.com

i use latest magisk canary and try latest shamiko and zygisk assistent

add the app to the "deny list" and "enforce deny list" is disabled

but with boot modules the app doesnt start, it freeze at start

how can i get it work ?
[Magisk] Wolfcity:
Use Shamiko 1.01 alone, works for me with Magisk 27.
[Magisk] xerves78:
no, shamiko 1.01 alone doesnt work here too on lineage 21

:unsure:

freeze on start

do you have more modules or only shamiko ?
[Magisk] ualexen92:
Don't use Assistance just Shamiko 1.1 (344) if you're using lastest Magisk 27003
[Magisk] xerves78:
ok

but with only shamiko 1.1 344 and magisk 27003 the app still doesnt start here
[Magisk] GohanBurner:
Can someone please tell me what the update channel is for Canary or how I can find 27003? I'm striking out here.
[Magisk] zgfg:
Google for GitHub Magisk and download

If you have Magisk app installed, just click to the link.

If Magisk is installed, choose Canary for Update channel in Magisk app Settings and start upgrading
[Magisk] snake-4:
It might be detecting LOS, try installing this module as well: https://xdaforums.com/attachments/reset-los-props-zip.6101090/
[Magisk] osm0sis:
Cool awk tricks 🤘
[Magisk] Isa Daud:
Thank you, I have activated that, but unfortunately the mbanking application still won't open, even freeze.
[Magisk] cosy6ay:
does citibank work with the new shamiko?
[Magisk] westruk:
nope
[Magisk] ualexen92:
Use https://github.com/Dr-TSNG/Hide-My-Applist if you have any other problem, I notice on canary without Assistance most of the bank detect running app on phone but using the Hide My Applist would fix any issue with the detection of running all
[Magisk] sawdoctor:
Sorry t

Unfortunately i still have one app that defects root now (quilter) that's with HMA and zygisk-assistant or shamiko. It didn't detect root when using zygisk assistant and shamiko together on previous magisk canary.

My only options are to downgrade magisk, switch to Apatch (last resort changing root ) or hope shamiko and zygisk-assistant can work at the same time again in the future
[Magisk] ualexen92:
Yes I can confirm, seems lastest Magisk canary HMA and shamiko combo doesn't work, we might need zygisk-assistance 🥺🥺🥺

I'm very impressed how good the zygisk-assistance was, before I always use both and right now without zygisk-assistance my life feel incomplete 😭 thought HMA would do the trick but it doesn't on every root detection out there
[Magisk] Alkéryn:
i just learnt now that shamiko is closed source and i regret ever trusting it kek.
[Magisk] taka2902:
I think they once said it's closed source mostly to make it hideous, theres reason why shamiko had been working for a long time without updating because app devs have no idea what shamiko do to bypass it. It can be malicious but lsposed devs are trusted by huge community, i dont think they are going to put malicious code but yeah being doubtful is okay.
[Magisk] Schmye Bubbula:
Just want to make sure I have this right for Kitsune (whitelist or allowlist of what to give root), inasmuch as it's the opposite of regular Magisk (blacklist or denylist of what not to give root):

For Magisk Kitsune (Delta) users:

• Turn on Zygisk in Magisk settings.

• Turn on "Enforce SuList" in Magisk settings as you usually would.

• Make sure to leave un-checked the target app in "Configure SuList."

Do I have this right?

(Or am I wrong whereas perhaps notwithstanding Kitsune otherwise being the opposite of official Magisk, the proper operation of Zygisk Assistant — and Shamiko, for that matter — nevertheless depends on assuming its own "enforcement" function, so even Kitsune's Enforce SuList still must be turned-off, or else they'd be in contention with each other?)
[Magisk] 57op:
wow, i managed to hide root for "it.bancomat.pay.user" using this module!

thanks a lot
[Magisk] Eula13:
If you don't look at the source code or anyone else, then open source means nothing, as malicious code inside Zygisk Assistant could be hiding in plain sight.
[Magisk] Alkéryn:
true, but i look at the source of like 25% of the stuff i install, but even if i don't, things being open source means other people will look at it too and redflag it.

and i'd end up being informed of malicious intent anyway.

closed source prevents that.

in fact that's kind of how i learnt about shamiko, i discovered that thread only after looking for open alternatives.
[Magisk] amn1987:
You can also uninstall the KSU app. That's what I am doing after the recent Pockets update. Just need to grant SU permission to all apps that require it and thereafter the app can be uninstalled.
[Magisk] Schmye Bubbula:
Can I please get an authoritative answer to this? I just installed Zygisk Assistant, and I don't know whether to turn on or off Kitsune "Enforce SuList." And what about "MagiskHide"?

In the original post, the author says to, "Turn off 'Enforce DenyList' in Magisk settings." This is not conclusive for Kitsune, which is the opposite, having an "Enforce SuList" — so I can't tell whether it should oppositely be turned on. (He does acknowledge the opposite in the next step about not adding the target app to a fork instead using a whitelist, but he simply left out whether a whitelist fork's enforce allowlist should be turned on or not.

With Kitsune "Enforce SuList" turned-off, Momo gives me this:

View attachment 6122593

But with Kitsune "Enforce SuList" turned-on, Momo gives me this:View attachment 6122594

...so I feel like I kinda can infer that Kitsune "Enforce SuList" is supposed to be turned-on, because the code injection probably is my LSPosed and would be "normal environment" if not for that.

At least this guy got a clean Momo bill of health with Kitsune, but he probably isn't running LSPosed, and he doesn't say whether he turned-on Kitsune "Enforce SuList."

[MODULE] Zygisk Assistant (FOSS Root Hider)

Zygisk Assistant (FOSS Root Hider) This module is designed to hide root similar to Shamiko. While capabilities may not be the same, it's worth noting that this module is open-source whereas Shamiko is closed-source. One of the advantages of this...

xdaforums.com

Is everyone off on summer vacation right now? Can someone please tell me whether Kitsune "Enforce SuList" is supposed to be turned-on (because in this regard, Kitsune is the opposite of regular Magisk)?
[Magisk] xerves78:
no hma doesnt fix the problem

lsposed is the problem, without lsposed the banking app work

so the apps detecting lsposed und freezing

but lsposed is require for the most modules
[Magisk] pershoot:
try APatch with LSPosed_mod. If your bank app still detects, then set exclude modifications for it. You can also have Zygisk Assistant there to be handed off to.
[Magisk] TraderJack:
I'm not sure if this is relevant, but I read this last night and hadn't been using Citi app for a while because I rarely need it. I reinstalled it and it worked. With no changes it gave me a root warning on launch, but still logged me in, then seemed to close with a similar message about 10 seconds later. It seemed like it was usable in a pinch, but I'm not sure how often it would close like that. Then, I simply added it to the Magisk DenyList and it worked 100%

I'm on:

A11 running

Magisk 27002 (using 27004 app which doesn't have broken hide issue)

Magisk App/package is hidden

Shamiko 1.0.1

Lsposed 1.9.2 with HMA, but I don't think I even needed to use HMA for Citi, just add it to the Magisk DenyList

So, I'm not sure if this is an issue with the post A11 versions, but Citi appears to work just fine for me with Zygisk running.
[Magisk] pndwal:
Interesting... So assuming you have the latest app, Citi Bank may still run with native bridge Zygisk injection (Magisk 26402/27.0+) despite some members reporting a need for ZygiskNext's ptrace+fuse... 👍 PW
[Magisk] Schmye Bubbula:
Will somebody please tell me whether Kitsune "Enforce SuList" is supposed to be turned-off or turned-on?
[Magisk] Rana260492:
Please update zygisk assistant.It is really the best that can be done
[Magisk] MitzaBobitza:
I'm not able to bypass the root detection of a banking app called "BT Pay" using this module. (or in any other way)

My phone is a Galaxy A53 (SM-A536B), I have TWRP and LineageOS 21 installed, as well as the latest version of Magisk stable.

The only modules I have installed are Play Integrity Fix by chiteroman, Systemless Hosts and Zygisk Assistant.

I followed the guide. (enabled zygisk, disabled enforce denylist, added the app to the denylist)

Link to the app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ro.btrl.pay

I'm not sure if it's region locked but if it is you should be able to find an APK on the internet.
[Magisk] sawdoctor:
Just a heads up for everyone, the new update to shamiko has fixed the compatibility issue with zygisk assistant. You can have them both installed together again
[Magisk] Legoman6:
Confirmed: Android 13 with Magisk Canary v27005 + Shamiko v1.1.1 + Zygisk Assistant v2.1.1 all working.
[Magisk] user2k10:
Will it conflict with this module, it seems to do something similar?

https://github.com/HuskyDG/zygisk-maphide
[Magisk] snake-4:
No conflicts. That module changes memory mappings (presumably to hide Xposed). Mine only changes mounts for now.
[Magisk] user2k10:
I disabled it anyway but with your module enabled any app that is on the deny list just crashes when opened.
[Magisk] nonstopzx0x:
I am looking forward to your upcoming update that will fix the conflict with magisk 27 and above, this module hides applications very strongly so far.
[Magisk] snake-4:
Could you share the details of your device, other modules if you have any and your Magisk version?

Or did you meant to say that apps crash if this module is used alongside https://github.com/HuskyDG/zygisk-maphide ?
[Magisk] snake-4:
There won't be any. As I've said in my previous reply, that bug is not related to the module and it was fixed in Magisk canary. Just wait for the next stable release of Magisk or use canary.
[Magisk] littlecrap:
It works but what i observe for 3 days, in a period of time zygisk Will be unable or not exist that i have to restart to enabled the zygisk again to get the root access.
[Magisk] nonstopzx0x:
update magisk to canary, not work with any debug, alpha,... reboot to twrp and sideload canary!
[Magisk] littlecrap:
Sad, i don't really like canary im stick with stable release yet thanks for the info
[Magisk] NEO701:
@snake-4 thanks a lot for your efforts!

I tried your module with the latest Magisk canary build build 81658d45 but all the apps that was working before with Shamkio was detected once I installed your module.

They worked fine again after I re-installed Shamiko, even without uninstalling your module.

I am not really sure what could be wrong here!

Using Android 14, Nothing Phone (2).
[Magisk] snake-4:
Could you install the debug version of this module, then run the Momo root checker and post a screenshot of Momo and the output of this command: adb shell 'logcat | grep ZygiskAssistant' ?

It'd also be helpful if you can tell me the name of one of the apps that detect root.
[Magisk] NEO701:
Thanks for your support!

Attached Momo screenshot, current modules screenshot and logcat from the debug module.

Tested apps (were working before with Shamiko+Canary, and with Kitsune):

Ana Vodafone - Apps on Google Play

Enjoy Vodafone services with just a click

play.google.com

My Orange Egypt - Apps on Google Play

Your smartphone solution to manage your Internet, minutes, and consumption

play.google.com
[Magisk] Anhlatuananh:
Did anyone lose root after reboot about 5 minutes , I turned off this module and it went back to normal. Latest version of magisk
[Magisk] snake-4:
I will release an update soon to fix the known issues.
[Magisk] NEO701:
Thanks a lot!

Please if you can look into the Adaway issue mentioned before in the thread because I also faced it myself while using the module with the latest Kitsune canary (which is working wonderfully btw from detection side, only the lost root and Adway issues are what I can find currently).
[Magisk] Big Dumb Object:
How does it show up against Rootbeer detector? (I'm still waiting for a fully stable release to check it myself.)
[Magisk] NEO701:
I tried Momo and I can tell you that I can get "normal environment" with this module + Kitsune which is fantastic, except the two issues mentioned above and the fact that it is not working for me with the official Magisk canary for some reason.
[Magisk] amn1987:
After installing the app is any further config reqd.? In my KSU device enabled the Denylist option in Zygisk Next but I actually can't find any option to add apps to it. Shamiko mentioned it was working via App List but again no idea how to make it work.

Until today https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.icicibank.pockets&hl=en_IN&gl=US usee to work very well even in my MSU device. After it complained about root even unrooting didn't help. Went for a clean flash and installed Pockets as the first app and it didn't complain about root. But immediately after installing KSU apk again it detected root. Uninstalling the latter, freezing it using Shamiko or ZA didn't seem to make any difference. I cleared the app data, reinstalled it, changed the device ID with the help of Device ID Changer etc but to no avail.

Every parameter passes in App List Detector.

Edit: Seemingly got the app to work. Got rid of Zygisk, ZA, Shamiko etc. Clean flashed the ROM. Installed KSU apk, gave root permission to all apps that require it, uninstalled KSU app and lastly installed Pockets. Otherwise if it detects root anytime only solution is to clean flash the ROM. Seems like it's storing some device parameter but changing Device ID, GSF didn't help. Neither did wiping app data or reinstall. Can't figure what value is it storing if at all and where.
[Magisk] norberto_:
Hi,

Thanks for this module first of all.

It did not work for my test phone with magisk 27 nor canary.

Went back to magisk 26.4 and my target banking app woks now.

Just a question

When could we expect the module to work with magisk 27?

Thank you

Kind regards
[Magisk] snake-4:
The module already works with Magisk 27. Could you post the link of your banking app?

Maybe Magisk 27 introduced a new trace that the app is detecting, and if that's the case I can try to fix it.
[Magisk] sawdoctor:
I can link 2 bank apps that detect root (only once you log in). I think it's lsposed they detect as if I use any xposed mod on them they FC

MBNA Mobile App - Apps on Google Play

Manage your credit cards on the go with the secure app

play.google.com

Lloyds Bank Business - Apps on Google Play

The app that makes business banking fast, flexible and more secure than ever

play.google.com
[Magisk] hopeeeeee09:
Try this module and is great xD :3 bypass all my bank in my country but momo still check that my device is root, already put momo in magiskhide, but still have package manager service is abnormal xDView attachment 6091524
[Magisk] snake-4:
This app is very interesting as it has a new method for detecting HMA itself. I will investigate this.

I can try to add a simple hiding method for Xposed in the next update but as I've said before it's not really possible to entirely hide Xposed without a kernel module.

Can you post your Magisk version, Android version, other Magisk modules that you have? Also try on latest official Magisk with other modules disabled. Make sure that Zygisk is also enabled.
[Magisk] norberto_:
first direct - Apps on Google Play

Finance at your fingertips

play.google.com

This is my bank app.
[Magisk] Vanda Suavis:
Does this mean the "found suspicious mount" message will no longer appear when using revanced?
[Magisk] hopeeeeee09:
I use Magisk Delta the new verison (27.0.0.1), My Android Verison is 14, My modules I use just unlimited GG Photos and Youtube Revanced, LSPosed, that all. And I think that why Momo can check Package manager service is abnormal because module HyperCeiler from LSPosed do that, tks for reply me, u module is so so great !!!!
[Magisk] snake-4:
This module does not hook PackageManager at the moment so this problem is likely caused by your other modules.

Indeed.
[Magisk] Vanda Suavis:
Weird. Doesn't seem to be working on my device (Pixel 6a) using KSU.
[Magisk] nonstopzx0x:
pls remove or disable Youtube Revanced, restart and you can see in momo!