yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Asus Zenfone 10] NeutralKaon:
I might have missed this, but have you put the particulars of claim anywhere?

My experience with the county court is that the way to win is to write a 300+ page legal bundle documenting everything in exquisite detail, separate clearly evidence, legal skeleton arguments, your own witness statement (you're formally a witness!) etc.
[Asus Zenfone 10] hrsh45:
that's not true.

please refrain from spreading misinformation in our thread.

Money Claim has words limit, 24 lines of 45 characters and a total of 1080 characters, which is less than 1 page.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...user-guide/money-claim-online-mcol-user-guide
[Asus Zenfone 10] hrsh45:
let's start the second wave of legal action then :)
[Asus Zenfone 10] Esja:
Please keep us up to date and thanks for taking the time to file another claim against the criminal organization Asus.
[Asus Zenfone 10] Androiduser2390:
Lets hope in the next wave we get an unlock tool or a real solution called doing oem unlock in developer options, no unlock code needed.
[Asus Zenfone 10] Esja:
I thought Snapdragon was the best and other chips like Exynos had massive problems? o_O
[Asus Zenfone 10] RoughRunner:
I too don't like the long aspect ratio of the Sony, but a few days ago there were leaks of the new Xperia 1 VI with a more standard aspect ratio, so I guess I will wait for that even though it will cost almost double the Zenfone 10. I wonder if I buy the Zenfone in Canada if I could still get a refund lol.

I'll look into the Samsung E series thanks. Really the two things I would not compromise on are the metal sides and the headphone jack...
[Asus Zenfone 10] Androiduser2390:
Just never buy a US or Canada model from samsung as it might not allow a bootloader unlock.
[Asus Zenfone 10] hrsh45:
s10 series' snapdragon is mainly the USA (/NA) version, where local carriers have issues with bootloader thing
[Asus Zenfone 10] squirri:
got the same answer (through asus switzerland/germany):

ergänzend zu unserer bisher getroffenen Aussage möchten wir folgendes ergänzen:

ASUS hat keine speziellen Service-Richtlinien für den von Ihnen erwähnten Fall und kann sich daher nicht zu einer Rückerstattung äußern.

Nur Ihr Händler kann hierzu eine verbindliche Aussage treffen, da dieser Ihr Vertragspartner ist.

in English:

ASUS has no special service guidelines for the case you mentioned and therefore cannot comment on a refund.

Only your dealer can make a binding statement on this, as they are your contractual partner.

____

I didn't buy my phone directly from Asus...
[Asus Zenfone 10] tatagami:
It shouldn't matter. You bought the phone on Asus promise about the bootloader. You wouldn't have bought it if you knew they were lying/giving false promises even when new generation of the phone come out already. The reason behind your purchase was the statement of Asus which was not kept. Asus gave you the motivation/reason to buy the phone with a false promise so they should be responsible for your decision to buy even if they don't pay all your expenses. It could be good if you can consult with a local attorney to see how much chance you have for compensation.
[Asus Zenfone 10] hrsh45:
do NOT be mislead by Asus' unprofessionism of shifting responsibility bs.

its Asus' false promise mislead your purchase decision, its nothing to do with the distributors.

they are with similar attitude when i first warned them, initially claimed "no obligation";

but after i stated which law they broke, they immidately changed their attitude and said they would make an announcement soon, and now we see what Asus' "no obligation" means in British Law ;)

details updated at #2 post:

https://xdaforums.com/t/court-actio...-bootloader-unlock-tool.4657042/post-89347565

according to Asus' logic, every business which use 3rd party distributors can lie without consequence.

unfortunately for Asus, Europe is not China.
[Asus Zenfone 10] belegdol:
This is expected, it was always unlikely they would fold immediately.

The issue in Germany is that there appears not to be a specific small claims process, just a simplified process for claims of 600 Euros and below. European small claims procedure can on the other hand be used if there is more than one country involved if I understand correctly. 600 Euros should be enough for an older phone so it might be worth a try.
[Asus Zenfone 10] hrsh45:
for ZF9 or older devices, feel free to pm me, i have stuff for you guys
[Asus Zenfone 10] squirri:
Wrote them again today with exact law references etc. Gave them a deadline of 14 days and promised to sue them if no Agreement is reached until then.

If someone else from Switzerland is thinking about that, this law in switzerland is the equivalent to the UCPD or the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008:

SR 241 - Federal Act of 19 December 1986 on Unfair Competition (Unfair Competition Act, UCA)

Fedlex

www.fedlex.admin.ch

Art. 3 Unfair advertising and sales methods and other unlawful behaviour, UCA

Art. 3 let. b and Art. 3 let. e:

[...]In particular, anyone who:

b. makes false or misleading statements about himself, his company, his business name, his goods, works or services, their prices, the quantity in stock, the type of sales event or about his business relationships [...];

e. compares itself, its goods, works, services or their prices with others, their goods, works, services or their prices in an incorrect, misleading, unnecessarily disparaging or insinuating manner or favours third parties in competition in a corresponding manner;

Pursuant to Art. 10 UCA, as a customer I am therefore entitled to bring an action (Art. 10 Right of action of customers and organisations as well as the Confederation); [...] Customers whose economic interests are threatened or injured by unfair competition are also entitled to bring actions pursuant to Article 9).
[Asus Zenfone 10] cemg92:
An Asus rep told someone else on Reddit that the unlock tool is still coming and an announcement will be made soon, but sounds like more stalling to me 🤔

https://www.reddit.com/r/zenfone/comments/1ccy11g
[Asus Zenfone 10] Jbrimb:
Sony Xperia 5 II or Sony Xperia 1 V
[Asus Zenfone 10] platinumthis:
Bro, S24 or Pixel 8
[Asus Zenfone 10] Jbrimb:
Don't remember seeing a headphone jack an either of these...

Pixel 8 has roms at least, but Tensor G3 is ****, it's laggier than my 90€ Sony Xperia 5 II... plus it overheats
[Asus Zenfone 10] platinumthis:
I would choose the sony xperia 5 II the other one is to big and weights over 180g
[Asus Zenfone 10] platinumthis:
They are even both to big, s24 is smaller an leighter

For me the s24 would be perfect, the weight as the size is ideal. Headphonejack is not that imported to me, but i cant understand why there are no aosp roms for the Samsungs anymore...
[Asus Zenfone 10] Supra | MD:
I've sent 4 emails to Asus. Two were sent to servicecentre_emea@asus.com, they first told me I never bought the device from them even though they can literally check the account attached to the email. I sent them an invoice, then they told me to email cs@asusstore.co.uk and they're pretending they don't know what my issue is.

"I have checked and can confirm that your device is still under the warranty. We can only assist you with the under warranty return and examination. If you would like to proceed just let us know."

I think my only option is small claims now. Apparently they're going to announce something in the next week or so, which I don't believe.

What do people think? Should I take them to court too?
[Asus Zenfone 10] Esja:
Should be quite easy if you're in the UK. Simply refer to the same case and demand the bootloader or refund.
[Asus Zenfone 10] Supra | MD:
I did, to those two emails. They're acting stupid.
[Asus Zenfone 10] squirri:
I got this answer today (Englisch below):

Sehr geehrter Herr squirri,

vielen Dank für Ihre Nachricht.

Mit dieser Mitteilung möchten wir Sie vorab darüber informieren, dass die Teamleitung bereits mit der Asus Zentrale in Kontakt steht, um für Sie eine zeitnahe und zufriedenstellende Lösung zu erarbeiten.

Wir werden Sie diesbezüglich in Kürze erneut kontaktieren.

Wenn Sie noch weitere Fragen haben sollten, können Sie sich jederzeit an uns wenden, dazu antworten Sie einfach auf diese E-Mail.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen | Kind regards

--------------------

English Translation:

Dear Mr squirri,

Thank you for your message.

With this message we would like to inform you in advance that the team management is already in contact with the Asus head office in order to work out a prompt and satisfactory solution for you.

We will contact you again shortly in this regard.

If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us at any time by replying to this e-mail.

Kind regards

-----

will keep you posted.
[Asus Zenfone 10] Jbrimb:
The lack of roms on Samsung phones seems a bit weird to me, especially since a good amount of them have TWRP available. But honestly, no phone past the S20 series has been even remotly interesting, where are the features ? Honesly if I want a phone with no sdcard slot, headphone jack or IR blaster, I'll get a nothing phone or a google pixel
[Asus Zenfone 10] hrsh45:
i should have replied every messages by now.

sorry for the late replies, my old laptop was broken.

also, its the end of Week 18 now, Anus had promised an announcement (its not there yet?)

so we can proceed court actions.
[Asus Zenfone 10] FasterPhoneMaster:
Do you mean that everyone should proceed court action individually or is there some coordinated process for all (inside EU maybe?).
[Asus Zenfone 10] hrsh45:
individually, because in Europe its quite easy to proceed individual claim.

feel free to pm me for details.
[Asus Zenfone 10] TheUncrown:
hmm should i just wait or sell my z10? :///
[Asus Zenfone 10] hrsh45:
neither, if you can fill out a money claim form.

where are you based?
[Asus Zenfone 10] wilderson:
Is it worth filling if I have Zenfone 8 [under warranty] ?. I bought it with the expectation that I can unlock it. I'm within EU [Poland]
[Asus Zenfone 10] squirri:
Seems like Asus Germany/Switzerland has another interpretation:

_________

German:

Sehr geehrter Herr squirri,

es tut uns sehr leid, dass Sie bisher von uns keine Rückmeldung erhielten.

Dies ist der Tatsache geschuldet, dass die Anfrage an unser HQ etwas länger dauerte.

Trotzdem müssen wir Ihnen leider mitteilen, dass ASUS sich außerstande sieht, Ihnen in diesem Fall mit einer Entschädigung entgegen zu kommen.

Vielen Dank für Ihr Verständnis

Mit freundlichen Grüßen | Kind regards

_________

English

Dear Mr Squirri

We are very sorry that you have not yet received any feedback from us.

This is due to the fact that the enquiry to our HQ took a little longer.

Nevertheless, we regret to inform you that ASUS is unable to offer you any compensation in this case.

Thank you for your understanding

Kind regards

----

I told them that next they will hear from my lawyer/court.
[Asus Zenfone 10] ignacioverd:
I used to consider buying asus phone, but after hearing here and there, I think nowadays the asus decision at treating customer become ways too unrespectful in the recent months, now, the recent problem is how they handled the warranty, you can just see the the explanation by the video "asus scammed us" by gamers nexus (it went trending).

There is a mass move by customers to reporting the Asus to court because this after sales problem.. although the move is not about this false BL promise. But at least, I can be sure this is the brand that I must not purchase currently, just be careful with this brand
[Asus Zenfone 10] coxema4715:
Because of Knox Security
[Asus Zenfone 10] V0latyle:
It has nothing to do with Knox. ANY modification to the firmware such as root, or flashing of custom firmware, even if it based on Samsung firmware, will trip Knox.
[Asus Zenfone 10] hrsh45:
yes.

its reasonable that some people wait till offical roms outdated then unlock bootloader.
[Asus Zenfone 10] chocolote4444:
In order to get Custom ROM support for Samsung, the OEM would have to post their kernel source code on GitHub along with their proprietary blobs. Samsung has abandoned this practice long ago due to them being very protective of their software. You can no longer get ASOP anymore due to Samsung taking away the source code.

Also worth noting that Samsung doesn't even allow bootloader unlocking in most countries now except the EU. That's why there's only like 1 or 2 different models for each Samsung phone that allowed the OEM toggle while the rest rot away staying locked forever.
[Asus Zenfone 10] platinumthis:
Idk about that over bl unlock, just dont get a carrier device, and also samsung has to give the kernel source cause gpl license, they use the linux kernel so they have also to release the source for it if we the consumer are using it, and about the proprietary stuff, that comes always from the stock rom, the oem only give kernel source thats it
[Asus Zenfone 10] FIERA03:
Which do you prefer, Zenfone/ROGPhone (kernel source is released but can't unlock bootloader) or Legion Tab Y700 (bootloader can be unlocked but no kernel source)?

All kidding aside, what was the ASUS announcement that was supposed to be in the 10+αth week?
[Asus Zenfone 10] 1ynxy:
An announcement was, unsurprisingly, never made. It was yet another lie.
[Asus Zenfone 10] platinumthis:
Anything new? Did someone was successful with their refund?
[Asus Zenfone 10] BOplaid:
Did anything happen yet?
[Asus Zenfone 10] MarioSergio1972:
O que deu certo pra mim, em vários Asus Zenfone, foi:

failed to unlock bootloader [X00PD]

Model Name: X00PD(Asus zenfone max m1 Rooted or not: Not Frequency of Occurrence: APP Name & APP Version (If your issue relates to the app): Asus Unlock Device App android : 8

zentalk.asus.com

- "I dont know if you are still looking for this but after working on it for hours what you are looking for is:

in fastboot mode type:

fastboot oem enable-unlock-once

will unlock the bootloader for you until the phone is reset.

Just have to do it everytime you reboot back into fastboot.

Also if you're flashing recovery, these other 2 commands may prove useful:

fastboot oem reboot-recovery

fastboot oem reboot-recovery-wipe

Cheers!"
[Asus Zenfone 10] anotherRogPhoneUser:
Late, but its 18th of June (2 months after the "we will make a official announcement") and asus serwer is still down. Asus didn't made any official announcement. Asus is responding with lies on lies. Even the way with mitmproxy and faking the Asus page didn't work because my rog 6 has too new firmware and you can't downgrade the firmware if you have locked bootloader. I can't trust asus anymore.
[OnePlus 9 Pro] Kotli-Master:
Hello. I want to go back to oxygenos 13 from 14 bad, I can't Because It shows me an error. Unfortunately, I don't have a laptop with Windows and I don't know how to go back. Ideally, I would like to go back to Oxygenos 11, but I don't have Windows either . Is there any way out?
[OnePlus 9 Pro] kdrv3xc:
windows to go
[OnePlus 9 Pro] Kotli-Master:
I don't have windows. I only have MacOS
[OnePlus 9 Pro] kdrv3xc:
thats what windows to go is for. you install it and run it from a usb drive.

if you have a mac you can always use parallels too.

or borrow a windows pc
[OnePlus 9 Pro] Kotli-Master:
I don't have a large pendrive or disk. The pendrive only has 32 GB, so it doesn't go any further. So maybe just a windows emulator?
[OnePlus 9 Pro] kdrv3xc:
32 is more than enough
[OnePlus 9 Pro] Mohammed saliq:
D

Download fastboot oos rom and run .sh files if it won't work ,manually flash these partitions

Edit:- link
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blazkenth:
Hello, im new to Xdaforums.com and im glad to be here. I have searched for guide about 'How to install TWRP and Magisk' for rooting my device but i haven'T found anything.

I have unlocked my bootloader with Deep Testing APK, it have approved my device and i can enter fastboot.

I would like to ask, how can i install TWRP and Magisk to my phone ? 'Realme C25-RMX3191' 'RMX3191_11_F.17' 'Realme UI 4.0 | Android 13'

Please show me a guide about this, help me.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blazkenth:
help??
[Samsung Galaxy A51 5G Questions & Answers] ChiaPetOriginals:
I hope someone can hopefully help me!

I have an unlocked A51 5g from ATT and was trying to flash the XAA firmware onto it, when using the patched odin it failed and so I tried restarting my device and now it will only load into download mode and says this:

ODIN MODE (SVB Fail)!

prism: No footer detected. (0)

prism: Error verifying vbmeta image: invalid vbmeta header (6)

CUSTOM prism

VBMETA A516USQUEGWI3, 70542540R

Can someone please help me figure out what to do? I'm very new to this and am just praying I didnt brick my phone!!

Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy A51 5G Questions & Answers] parrots_:
Can you send me a photo of this screen?

Additionally, try seeing if you get any USB detection.
[Samsung Galaxy A51 5G Questions & Answers] ChiaPetOriginals:
So when i plug in the USB cable connected to my computer, nothing changes on the phone, but my computer makes the beep noise that something was connected.

And no matter how many times I restart it, this is the same screen that always comes up.

Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy A51 5G Questions & Answers] ChiaPetOriginals:
In ODIN, when I plug up or remove the phone, it says either ADDED or REMOVED as well.
[Samsung Galaxy A51 5G Questions & Answers] parrots_:
That's a good sign, you can just flash the stock firmware back. You didn't repatriation, right?
[Samsung Galaxy A51 5G Questions & Answers] ChiaPetOriginals:
No I did not repartition.

So I downloaded the firmware code that it had shown in ODIN (the stock firmware) and was able to flash that successfully and my phone is up and running!

Any ideas on what went wrong with trying to flash the XAA firmware though?

Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy A51 5G Questions & Answers] parrots_:
The text in Odin Mode actually helps us diagnose the issue. It mentions the VBMETA, which is similar to the bootloader, in the sense that it checks to make sure that everything's signed and official.

If I remember correctly, it checks the MD5 hash of the firmware, which is like assigning a number to a file.

If a file doesn't match the expected hash, it rejects it, and instead boots into Odin mode.
[OnePlus 10 Pro] cavalier3400z:
I forgot to restore magisk before locking the bootloader. My oneplus 10 pro is now stuck in a boot loop. Is there anyway to recover it?
[OnePlus 10 Pro] loginzabul:
Before locking the bootloader, you must delete any changes that have been made to the system. Magic as well.
[OnePlus 10 Pro] loginzabul:
Look for instructions on how to recover from a krpicha state with a blocked download.
[OnePlus 10 Pro] cavalier3400z:
Thank you, I ended up using NC phone, they charged me $15 and logged in and used the factory tool to recover the phone. I was trying to reset the phone so I could sell it since i upgraded to a to a oneplus 12.
[OnePlus 10 Pro] loginzabul:
It's still good. There is one Indian, who also restores remotely, takes 50+. It is possible to sell a good option. Oppo has framed buyers with paid post-service.
[OnePlus 10 Pro] galaxys:
What is NC phone?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] parrots_:
So a couple months ago, I bricked my G1. No signs of life at all, no fastboot, recovery, nothing. Only thing that works is the blue dot mode and the red light, which shows up when charging. I'm 99% sure that JTAG is my only shot at this, but does anyone know if there's any other method, or should I just have it flashed via JTAG?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] parrots_:
I did Camera + Power and it finally turned on, what do I do now? It's in bootloader, I need stock firmware.

Rebooted into recovery and flashed The Dudes Cupcake.
[Google Pixel 5 Questions & Answers] metropical:
was https://xdaforums.com/t/bluetooth-issues-with-in-ears.4656274/

but I figured out today after some experimentation that the issue is the P5 is slow to switch and/or turn on data/cell, after the Nov. 23 update.

I'm on the Jan 24 security update now, but the problem still exists.

Anyone else or have any idea how to fix or wait for the Feb/Mar update ....if it comes?
[OnePlus 12] SysAdmNj:
Coming from an OP7 so definitely out of practice with rooting. I received my OP12 and unlocked bootloader, I then decided to take an update. What are my options to obtain the correct init_boot.img to patch. I'm currently on this version:

Any suggestions/ideas appreciated.
[OnePlus 12] passionicon:
Pic missing.

But what i did might help you.

I used oxygen updater to download full updates and extracted boot img from it
[OnePlus 12] SysAdmNj:
Ok I'll put my info:

OS Version:

CPH2583_14.0.0.404(EX01)

OTA Version:

CPH2583_11.A.57_0570_202401290048

Incremental OS Version:

U.R4T3.16074b7-520-b048

Security patch date:

2024-01-05

Hardware version:

CPH2583_11

I tried Oxygen Updater but it says "Your system is up to date"

Is there a way to force a download of a full update even if you're up to date?
[OnePlus 12] pxer:
I am also passing on from a 7pro and have been waiting on the CPH2583_14.0.0.404 update to arrive in NA. Sadly, 1+ website no longer shares their full updates on their support site, but I believe once the update becomes more frequent in NA, it will get posted on XDA. If not, I can send it to you once I get the update, as I will be planning to extract the boot.img to root the device.

Curious, when did you receive the 14.0.0.404 update?
[OnePlus 12] SysAdmNj:
Friday when I received device. I was on wifi and it notified me of update so I took it, that was my bad. Did you do the same thing? How did you get it?
[OnePlus 12] pxer:
Sadly I have not received the 2583_14.0.0.404 OTA update yet, but I am north of the border so who knows when it will arrive as 1+ is not represented up here. Plan is d/l the full update through OxyOs updater (always good to have a full update on hand)
[OnePlus 12] pxer:
I am assuming you saw the post

404 update for NA "couldn't install" "installation problem*

I literally jumped seeing this notification. NA owners will understand. But then I get this error from the official updater. Anyone running into the same situation?

xdaforums.com

member uploaded the unpatched 404 boot.img
[OnePlus 12] SysAdmNj:
I did not until now. Thanks for that. So I can just use that boot.img and contitnue with rooting?
[OnePlus 12] clsA:
you should read the post I tried to explain best I could here > https://xdaforums.com/t/404-update-for-na-couldnt-install-installation-problem.4657081/post-89348617

also @pxer another user posted the update if Oxygen updater is not finding it for you

Shortguide [02/04/2024]: Bootloader, Root, & Safetynet

What it is: This guide will cover how to take a phone from fresh out of the box to rooted and passing Safetynet. It assumes you have at least a basic knowledge of how to install and use android-tools for instances where adb and fastboot are...

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[OnePlus 12] SysAdmNj:
I'm not trying to update as I'm already at this 404 version. I took the OTA on my phone before rooting. I was just looking for the proper boot.img to then root my phone and I believe you provided it. Your boot.img should wok for me to root right?

My current version:

OS Version:

CPH2583_14.0.0.404(EX01)

OTA Version:

CPH2583_11.A.57_0570_202401290048

Incremental OS Version:

U.R4T3.16074b7-520-b048

Security patch date:

2024-01-05

Hardware version:

CPH2583_11
[OnePlus 12] clsA:
Yes Sir
[OnePlus 12] pxer:
It is best to read and then read some more to verify the procedures. There are a few posts with similar procedures depending if you are updating with root or just rooting on the same firmware version, but I believe this is the method you need to follow

Shortguide [02/04/2024]: Bootloader, Root, & Safetynet

What it is: This guide will cover how to take a phone from fresh out of the box to rooted and passing Safetynet. It assumes you have at least a basic knowledge of how to install and use android-tools for instances where adb and fastboot are...

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[OnePlus 12] pxer:
Thank you for the heads up, it showed up this AM on Oxy Updater, so I was able to d/l