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[XPERIA X1 General] Angelusz:
Check if you have any applications running in the background. Do you have Wifi turned on, bluetooth? Every module that is enabled keeps sucking power. If you don't turn them off, your phone can indeed get drained pretty quick. The battery is just fine, 1500mAh isn't bad at all. Do keep in mind that - due to the big screen and many options - phones like this just don't last for a week.

Also, did you fully uncharge your battery when you first used the phone?

If the problem persists, you can always contact SE to get a new one, as it's not supposed to drain that fast.
[XPERIA X1 General] artesea:
I know on the old P990 if you didn't exit the camera app correctly it just ran in the background and drained the battery. I do a double check in the task manager every so often to ensure that nothing was left running that shouldn't be.
[XPERIA X1 General] dingolino:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=463775

This is a thread from Touch HD about AE Button Plus.

I am testing this now on my X1 because I am alos not happy with MY battery life.

dingolino
[XPERIA X1 General] cursor:
the camera is not that bad, actually it's one of the bests I seen in a mobile device... anyways, don't expect to take, for example, good night photos, but actually, with good lighting the photos came really nice.

as for battery; I'm sure you shoudl have something (maybe wayfinder) running in the background, with moderate use I get 3-4 days of battery without problems; and I never let it get down 40%.
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
i get about 2 days max on my battery. thats with nothing running in the background, althought it does ckeck my emails every 15 mins.

shame u cant buy a bigger battery like a 3000 that would last twice as long as 4 days on one charge would be amazing
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
Hm.... i have another one for you guys. I was using the phone non stop for the past couple of days. Wi-fi is always on and i watch media and use opera a lot. The battery lasts for about 8 hours. When i got the phone the battery was almost dead. I did charge it but for a couple of hours only. Then i charged it overnight for 12 hours. Did the fact that i did not charge it for a long time from the box affects my battery life???
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
yeah, i did that with a phone i bought about 2 years ago and had to get a new battery as the original one would die after a day or 2 (should last about a week as was standard phone). i always leave a new phone on charge overnight now so i know its charged all the cells
[XPERIA X1 General] CantoX1i:
I'm not going to say that you guys are wrong, but...

This phone, does not need to be fully drained the first time you use it, nor does it need to be fully charged. That was only an issue on older batteries, it's not an issue anymore.

I also believe it says so in the manual somewhere :) So, I'm guessing you guys had some defect batteries, cuz it's not an issue with the battery thats in the X1.
[XPERIA X1 General] fards:
are you using Itjes latest HD based rom?

I found I got really bad battery life out of it for a couple of days till I let it run down to under 10% then charged it again. It's working fine now.
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
I heard the same thing from a couple of people. Older batteries had that problem but modern ones don't. I just wanted to make sure =P
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
u might be right. like i said it was about 2 years ago it happened to my phone. but why take the risk;)
[XPERIA X1 General] Evostance:
The only thing I had on was wifi and check mail every 30minutes.

I only use general useage (8 pictures and a few messages)

but that was it. I dont understand. I charged it for 20mins and its gone from 20% to 60%.

7hours later its only on 50%. Strange thing is, my phone has been on a radiator all day and it hasnt last that much charge.

Last night it was freezing -4c outside and wasnt that warm inside, then I slept in a cold room. I wonder if heat has anything to do with it :S
[XPERIA X1 General] fards:
Did you flash your phone recently? was the battery at full before you flashed it? it's been reported as a problem on other phones (I remember the UNI used to do this) that if you flashed when the battery wasn't at full it messed up the power levels.
[XPERIA X1 General] ruddsamuppet:
Mine was crap the first few days. I read somewhere on this forum to run battery to zero and charge overnight with the phone off. Mine now lasts all day and is recharged each night.
[XPERIA X1 General] thengwee:
Just a sidetrack with regards to batteries...

When I charge my X1 with the device turned on, the battery tends to heat up till even the casing is hot to the touch. Is anyone else encountering the same thing?

However, when the device is off while charging, the battery doesn't heat up.

Weird... :confused:
[XPERIA X1 General] bharat4ever:
It depends on what applications you've installed.... Touch flo drains it like hell.

My phone looks like this.

I use SE panel 1, no other gimmicks.

Pocket player for music 2 hrs each day.

15 min of video here and there.

2 hrs of phone calls, and a hell a lot of messages, which means keeping on switching the phone from potrait to landscape and so on...

SPB phone suite.

SPB wallet.

SPB Wireless manager.

I get a solid 2 days with about 15% remaining at the end of the second day...
[XPERIA X1 General] bharat4ever:
As much as possible put the phone in sleep mode when you charge the battery. And the battery gets more heated up when charging over USB.
[XPERIA X1 General] estartu:
Hi!

I had the same problem some days ago. Even if the X1 slept on my desk with no application running, after 2 days the battery was empty.

I thought about what I installed last and deinstalled Batti. And now the battery lives much longer.

Btw... does anyone know a good app to show the status of the battery? Or how I can show it instead of the clock?

Batti was great but charging every second day was not.
[XPERIA X1 General] dingolino:
I have wktask installed which offers also a Battery meter. I will double check this as well beside AE Button.

Many thanks for the hint

dingolino
[XPERIA X1 General] neothoms:
I had a battery problem too.

I only got 1 day and a half or less with my X1.

I uninstalled gAlarm and now I have one day more.
[XPERIA X1 General] dingolino:
After uninstalling AE Button Plus 2.65 my battery life is now significant better, exactly like the report from the touch HD forum.

Best regards

dingolino
[XPERIA X1 General] Jent:
I've noticed a funny thing related to battery during frost . I left out for a walk while ago, it's -10 degrees out. When I left, I had around half of the battery left, after walking for an hour, I noticed that my phone was alarming battery being critical, I tried to make a call and it shut itself down. I tried to re-open it, but battery was totally dead. I came back home and left the phone on the table for approximately 5minutes, turn it on and battery was again half full :p
[XPERIA X1 General] dadeadman:
So does batti cause the battery to drain faster
[XPERIA X1 General] bharat4ever:
ironic isn't it? a program meant to show you the battery status drains it faster :p
[XPERIA X1 General] scotty180:
Battery life is perfect

I have just returned to work after christmas with my X1 with a 16GB SD card in with 5GB o music on.I have played my music for 8 hours and used messaging and spoke on phone for 10 minsand still had 50% battery life left when i got home. Cant complain at that.:)
[XPERIA X1 General] foxvengeor:
with auto brightness/backlight?
[XPERIA X1 General] estartu:
Yes, I thought that too. :D

Last week I found a nice little program like Batti but it does not drain the battery: http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-wmminibattery.html
[XPERIA X1 General] Photle:
Ah, thanks for the alternative app.

Indeed Batti was the culprit.

I was very disappointed with my battery just draining no matter how "little" I was doing with my phone.

When I was asleep, and my phone was "sleeping" on the side of my bed, I would loose 30% power, during the course of a night, with no programs running, and the phone in sleep mode, totally silly.

I uninstalled batti, and now I loose 0% during the night... major difference there.

Dunno what batti does that makes it suck the battery that much
[XPERIA X1 General] BigFeat:
I too am in the same boat, but not running any of the aforementioned apps. The phone pretty much dies after I wake up. I have no apps running in the background. I don't even think I can get a full 8 hrs with the handset playing music and such without getting the power low warning.

I have recharged the phone after the battery has drained completely, but I only get X1 only gives me about 20% the battery life of my P990. I thought this was just a handset charging flaw, but after reading some of these post I wonder what the culprit could be with mine.
[XPERIA X1 General] dadeadman:
I lose 10% of batt life every night. I played astraware casino for 1.5 hours and saw my batt goes down by 20%. Normal?
[XPERIA X1 General] Photle:
Have you installed the fameous wayfinder software? Is your phone hot to the touch when it drains this fast?
[XPERIA X1 General] dogans:
Hmm, and I just installed gAlarm last night :/ . Does it really drain that much?
[XPERIA X1 General] scotty180:
My X1

Right all i have on my phone is the SPB software except games, sk tools and a couple more similar apps. I have a 16 gb card in with about 54 albums on. During the week i work 8 hours in a factory while listening to my music. When i finish i have about 40% battery left which lasts me till i put on charge at night which is about the same i got from my W950i.
[XPERIA X1 General] Photle:
I just installed it as well. 0% drain from being in stand-by for 8 hours at least
[XPERIA X1 General] Ves:
That's the same with me. I also have 3 mail accounts auto-checking every 15 min, and visit Google Reader for about 2-5 min every session (about 3 during working)

But since yesterday I have been testing my X1. I'm on 30% after 37 hours of not charging. This is after 3 phone calls each lasting 2-5 min. 16 sms, two sessions of Uitzending Gemist (streaming tv) of 5 min and the regular stuff I posted above.
[XPERIA X1 General] azian_advanced:
yeah i was having terrible battery life the first time i got my x1a. then i found out even if you close wayfinder, it leaves the gps connected or something like that so i uninstalled wayfinder entirely.

one other thing i noticed, after i did my first hard reset i no longer have the time in the upper right corner, instead it was replaced by the battery meter *bonus!*. so by tapping on it it goes to the power settings to view a detailed version of the battery meter, or change/adjust backlight. although it would be nice to have both the time and battery meter to show on the taskbar.
[XPERIA X1 General] Raspster:
I have found thatwith many WM phones that you really need to let them cycle thru charges for atleast a week or so. You will see it get better & better as you properly cycle thru. What I mean by that is let it drain, then fully recharge. I am on my 2nd day with the x1a and I have a pretty good deal of programs running in the background and so far the battery is only slightly worse than the at&t fuze (aka: touch pro)
[XPERIA X1 General] holoski:
Mine is only 4/5 days old. Therefore only 3/4 charges so far. However battery life is not great so far.

It was 100% yesterday 11am, 2 calls, (10mins) some extensive playing around with settings, push mail every hour and it ran out of juice overnight, ie not 24 hours.

I have now removed wayfinder, and batti and hope it helps. I will continue to completely drain then fully recharge the battery to try and improve battery life.

I can't bring myself to remove G-Alarm, it is too useful :p
[XPERIA X1 General] Photle:
batti and wayfinder are known culprits.

Myself I can't find any troubles at all with g-alarm, the drain would be negligible
[XPERIA X1 General] zyexx:
well i just saw this 1800 maH battery on e-bay than am gonna try and see if I can get some more time out of it
[XPERIA X1 General] zzone:
i personally don't recommend this kind of chinese batterys , because long time ago i bought one of this for an Alcatel phone (i kinow it doesn;t compare) but it was very poor quality and very quick stopped working. I don't think you want to damage such an expensive phone using after-market non-SE hardware.

Regarding original ideea of the thread :

Today when i first used the phone it was at 20% , despite the fact that when i went to sleep it was at 70%. I forgot IM+opened , but not connected. Even so , the phone lasted pretty much , on that 20% , from 16 until 1 in the mornig with about 30 min of phonecall and some SMS + a bit of browsing (max 10 min).

So i wonder , is it possible for the battery not to give exact information to the software , and even if it says low level , actually the battery to be still charged?

I charged the phone 2 times so far completly form wall-socket , in the rest of the time the battery charget via USB while installing stuff.(i have the phone for 1 week). I still belive that the battery has more to offer that it shows at first :D
[XPERIA X1 General] holoski:
I found http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-21.htm

an interesting article suggesting it is better to not fully discharge the battery, but rather keep topping it up to get better battery life.
[XPERIA X1 General] dogans:
Thanks for the link. Interesting indeed.
[XPERIA X1 General] holoski:
I deleted wayfinder, batti and turned off data connection in Comms. I had 100% at 11am, 60% when going to bed at 11pm and still 60% this morning, so that worked quite well.

However I need push email etc so will see how long this charge gives me before I turn Data connection back on.
[XPERIA X1 General] afreeb:
battery life

lithium polymer batteries do perform significantly better when topped up rather than the nickel cadium and prior batteries which relied on full discharges and recharges.... its all to do with the 'battery memory'....

Andy
[XPERIA X1 General] jchu:
ok. tell me if this is normal. fully charged at 10:00am

-default panel with spb wireless monitor, thats it.

-i turned on edge connection, went online and downloaded spb mobile shell panel using IE

-after downloading the 4Mb panel, my battery meter = orange.. around 20-30% left.

Now it's 14:45, and I'm getting battery alerts... so now I'm charging my phone again.

NOT EVEN FIVE HOURS!!!

what is going on?!?
[XPERIA X1 General] skycamefalling:
If SPB Wireless Monitor turns the WLAN on for the whole time, this should be the one to blame because WLAN needs a lot of power. Try it again with this program turned off.
[XPERIA X1 General] cursor:
It doesn't.
[XPERIA X1 General] Photle:
It could be a defective battery, but 9 times out of 10 it's "user error" (or rather hidden program doing stuff).

Have you checked the known culprits? (especially wayfinder software, even just installed and not in use). Is anything showing as active in the comm manager when this drain is going on?
[XPERIA X1 General] skycamefalling:
If you know someone with a X1 too you could change batteries for a day or two to see if it's a battery failure.

But, as Photle already said, it's a software or user failure in the majority of cases.
[XPERIA X1 General] jchu:
Only thing running was SPB wirless monitor, Internet Explorer, Phone On, Data Connection (EDGE) downloading a 4Mb file (SPB Mobile Shell)

OH wait, I had my Messenger on while I was downloading, but I can't see as to why that would affect it that much?

No wifi, no bluetooth, no Tomtom, no Wayfinder, no battery guage.
[XPERIA X1 General] artesea:
All day or just for a few minutes, as this will drain the battery.
[XPERIA X1 General] gold333:
Turn incoming beams off in connections.
[XPERIA X1 General] gold333:
How do you get uitzending gemist on the X1?

Youtube?
[XPERIA X1 General] clburns1:
OK, you guys do know they spent and entire portion of their company designing a new battery that would sweep the world with its effectiveness? It was called the Hercules project and they have spent so much money and a couple of years working on it.

Well the xperia x1 is the first phone to have it. With that said, you are not having battery issues...none of you are (or at least I strongly doubt it). Look at the phone and it's hardware, look at the screen. For example i have the xps m1710. The battery life from the day i bought it is about 2hr for a laptop. Now they make laptops that get up to 8 hours. But there is so much more in this one that it actually takes up about double the amount of power that a normal desktop does because of the kick ass stuff that's in it. Such as a super video graphics card, a lot of ram, very fast hdd, and even the core 2 duo.

The same thing goes for this phone. Look at the hardware it has...it's on video card, more ram than 99% of the phones out there. It's going to need a lot of power to produce all of that. I can't remember a day that I got 2 days charge from my tilt and that's still perfectly great for it. The point is, for whats in the phone...and all pocketpc's in general, you should charge them every night before you go to bed anyways. All I'm saying is that some people should have known this when purchasing the phone. I help this eases your mind to defective batteries.
[XPERIA X1 General] GOF007:
Hmm....

I feel that my X1 battery last longer than any PDA Phone I ever used.

Watch a full movie, music for hours, make a long calls, and the battery still at more than half.
[XPERIA X1 General] koBi88:
Hey,

1. what is "Batti"

2. and how can I turn off the connections like GPRS, UMTS, EDGE,... ?
[XPERIA X1 General] clburns1:
I'm not seeing "batti" anywhere on this page?!?
[XPERIA X1 General] mo.ammi:
Visit http://m.omroep.nl/gemist on your X1 and the rest speaks for itself.
[XPERIA X1 General] Ves:
I can assure you SPB Wireless Monitor doesn't do any with connections. It just monitor's them.
[XPERIA X1 General] Photle:
In what way does it monitor them. Does it monitor if there are any wi-fi networks in the vicinity etc?
[XPERIA X1 General] skycamefalling:
Thanks, I do not know the program that's why I was asking.
[XPERIA X1 General] loggy:
Bring up clocks and alarms, more, untick display clock in all programs, shows battery meter instead.
[XPERIA X1 General] jchu:
oh. I started using my xperia at around 10:30am, downloaded a 4mb file using IE. and by 2-3pm, my battery was shouting for a recharge.

running apps were only msn messenger, spb wireless monitor and IE
[XPERIA X1 General] artesea:
You aren't answering the question. Was Messenger running all day???

Other than downloading a 4mb file, were you doing much else in PIE?
[XPERIA X1 General] jchu:
NO. i turned my XPERIA on at 10-10:15am (i tried charging my xperia while it was turned off as i remember someone from this thread/forum saying that it might help)

connected to edge at around 10:40ish

started msn messnger 10:41ish

started IE 10:43ish,

next, downloaded 4mb file [spb mobile shell]

by 11-11:10.. my battery was orange (30%?)
[XPERIA X1 General] jianwei87:
around 2 day i need to recharge my battery.
[XPERIA X1 General] skycamefalling:
Then the battery was not charged fully before!

Even with WLAN, GPS, Bluetooth Youtube and what-the-heck running the battery cannot drain that fast!
[XPERIA X1 General] Oms:
Battery problem solved?

Well, it appears that I've had some joy.

The first two charges got me almost 2 days usage.

Not pleased with that, I let my device run completely out of power (and therefore switch off) at normal room temperatre.

I kept it switched off, and immedieately charged it for 3 to 4 hours. I only switched it back on again once that had finished. Apparently, doing it that way stops WM6 interfering with the charge.

The phone lasted just under two days (again), but this time it ran out of power without warning (battery was low, but not critical). This suggested that WM6 was no longer calibrated to the battery voltage.

I plugged the charger in for 5 mins, then switched it on. I allowed the phone to fully charge for 3 hours.

Since yesterday evening (despite a bit of wifi usage, 40 mins video playback and some texting), my battery has remained on four bars (out of four). By now, normally, it would have at least one bar missing.

Fingers crossed.
[XPERIA X1 General] rambalu80:
Charge Complete Indicator?

Guys, I'm new here and I’ve had my X1a for 2 days now. It has been charging for about 2 hours and 30 minutes and in the battery settings, I see 10 bars but it still says charging and the battery indicator on the today page still shows the charging symbol. How can I tell if the battery charging is completed?
[XPERIA X1 General] dogans:
When fully charged, the icon should change to a battery.
[XPERIA X1 General] artesea:
If the side LEDs are set to flash on charge, they will stop flashing once the battery is full.
[XPERIA X1 General] rambalu80:
I noticed that, but if I left it for a few minutes or check the screen for the full charge indicator, the charging symbol comes back on sometimes. But I finally did notice that the LED's stop flashing and the Full Charge icon does show up.

Thanks for the help guys!
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
Battery sucks big time on modern smartphones in general.

artesea

You had P990 - how would you compare it's battery life to X1?

X1 is similar and quite efficient, but now I see that if I want to have 24 hours on that I HAVE to use Opera Mini and Profi Mail to save power....
[XPERIA X1 General] artesea:
I'm sooo used to charging every 24 hours, haven't really noticed much. Spend quite a lot of time online with the phone at the mo (awaiting broadband to be installed at new house) so it's needing the 24 hour charge, but before 48 was fine.
[XPERIA X1 General] swazpurohit:
i generally charge every 3 days. this is the best battery life ive had since owning any winmo pda.
[XPERIA X1 General] Ves:
No. It monitors any activity through either a Data connection, USB (active synch), wifi.

But it doesn't scan for wi-fi networks.

SPB Wireless Monitor used to be named SPB GPRS Monitor. Maybe that name rings a bell.
[XPERIA X1 General] lmame:
I used S2U2 before to get a nice "lock" page on the X1i but I felt like the battery was drained a lot...

Once I uninstalled S2U2, I got my "old" autonomy back :) and the difference is amazing.

I had around 2 days with S2U2, and 4 without.
[XPERIA X1 General] axjiii:
Has anyone noticed that PointUI v1.02b eats battery a LOT!

I let pointUI run at night and go to sleep, morning my battery was only 20% left from something 90%!?

Normaly my basic home screen eats 10% or less at night.
[XPERIA X1 General] x1tom:
Hi,

Found this thread looking for info on short battery life on the X1.. I had the X1 running stock Vodafone UK ROM for about a month and generally had to recharge it every 4 days or so - the best battery life I've ever had on a mobile device... That was running IM and push email every 5, with about an hour spent on 3g googling and about 4 hours hooked to works wifi...

Since flashing to Touch-IT the battery life is dire! I have to charge it every night.. If I turn off all connections other than 3g.. and run nothing at all I will still need to charge everyday.. the only program I can see running in the task list is activesync, (which now auto runs all the time)..

I love the Touch-IT interface and don't mind charging it every night, but its a heck of a change from every 4 days..
[XPERIA X1 General] mo.ammi:
I've noticed the same thing after using the custom rom. Also Activesync always active even when I try to close it (Maybe it correlates?).

Has anyone noticed the same thing?
[XPERIA X1 General] orelsi:
After a lot of usage these past few weeks (A LOT) i noticed something. With every charge the phone lasts longer and longer. Now it can go through the whole day without any problems. It is a considerable boost in battery power compared to the first week :).