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[General Topics] 25q:
Munk I just got a

Q5 timmkoo cand you give me a copy of the steps on rooting this device I have vary limited koleg on this topic thank you.
[General Topics] NoahDomingues:
I think (I said think) that I've figured out the APK installations, BUT I have not tested it yet (trying to back up my original ROM first, before I flash anything else).

It's a Boolean variable in Settings Provider.apk, in res/values/bools.xml. Searching for Unknown Sources or Play Store won't work, because it's Android 4.4.2, I had forgotten that it was Android Market back then - so, you have to look for allow_non_market_apps - in our firmware, this is set to false by default - I've changed it to true, maybe this is what was causing the APK installations to fail!!

Screenshot attached (of what I've changed).
[General Topics] NoahDomingues:
AFAIK the idea is not to root the device. We are trying either to remove the restrictions on the existing ROM, or port another ROM from a similar device. I'm trying to remove the restrictions (e.g. on APK installations) on the existing ROM, as that's where I have more experience.

Cheers!
[General Topics] NoahDomingues:
I'm not sure if WiFi actually doesn't work on the Q3E - or if they've just removed the option from the Settings app, so you have to pay an extra $20 or whatever it is these days just to have something with that functionality. It would probably be cheaper for them to just manufacture the devices identically with the same components, and just sell the Q5 as a "different" device - the only real difference being it has the WiFi setting enabled.

Just a thought, not sure - sounds like something these sketchy Chinese device manufacturers would do though!

As far as I know, Q3 is the same thing as Q3E.

You're right, I've just realized the real chip code was actually there, right in front of us the whole time!! No idea how I didn't see that!

The scatter file (which I actually opened! Must be blind xD) is named MT6580, not MT6582- I flashed it countless times, how I missed that I have no idea.

Good find! Cheers, Noah =)
[General Topics] DannySolo:
Got the Noah's V6 system.img, will try that thanks.

Why bother with Google Play if it doesn't work? Maybe it can be uninstalled.
[General Topics] davefelzyis15:
Where can I get Noah's v6 system.IMG?
[General Topics] Cyber-Flasher:
I think its page 4 or 5?
[General Topics] Cyber-Flasher:
this
[General Topics] DannySolo:
Noah V6 is pretty cool. Confusing load of apps in the drawer but once they're organized on the homepage it's all good. Just set the YT app to 360p or something or it runs like a slug. Opera Mini is super too but I couldn't get any of the old Flash games I tried to run in Chrome, I'll try a few more. Maybe WhatsApp will work through the web interface even if the app doesn't? Don't know if I should bother exploring casting to screen, 4.4.2 is supposed to be able to do it?
[General Topics] Small_ed:
Don't worry about it, if you do get it to work, It'll probably run like crap because the graphics on this aren't that good as it is
[General Topics] yossi770:
how can i change the bootanimation
[General Topics] Small_ed:
rn, you can't.
[General Topics] davefelzyis15:
Yes you can, download boot animation factory you can then make the boot animation.zip, then using ROM editor tool go to modify permissions select the system.img you want to use, navigate to the media folder delete the default boot animation.zip and move the new one to there. That's what I did and it work.
[General Topics] Small_ed:
oh okk.. ty I was wondering this too
[General Topics] van4L:
Hey, im new to all of this stuff. And i know y'all probably heard that a lot from everyone. But I've had a Q5 mp3 player for a while now. I've looked through what everyone has said, and I don't get anything 😭. Plus my thing is slow as hell. But what I was wondering, is that would I need a computer to do any of the stuff y'all are doing?
[General Topics] Small_ed:
You need a computer yes.
[General Topics] van4L:
Thank you!
[General Topics] Cyber-Flasher:
well, not technically a PC (windows)

there are alternatives for Mac and chrome OS users (just not any good) like you could use crossover on either of these devices to install PC apps. (some chromebooks don't even support crossover because of the CPU build like x86 or ARM64) idk about the drivers though, you could use a command to get MTK drivers. I know its more simple for adb devices and such
[General Topics] Cyber-Flasher:
sorry I'm a noob could you possibly tell you what you mean for step five?
[General Topics] 0xfffe:
steps 4-7 are redundant, I think.

it's enough to copy your apk into /data/app and set permissions then reboot
[General Topics] 0xfffe:
timmkoo is rootable with kingoroot, if u want faster way to install apps use a root explorer and whenever u want new apps just copy into /data/app
[General Topics] Cyber-Flasher:
i tried kingoroot is there anyway you can give the specific apk?
[General Topics] davefelzyis15:
Worked for me. Probably will say it failed first or second time but eventually will get it.
[General Topics] Cyber-Flasher:
thanks!
[General Topics] Cyber-Flasher:
Imagine fallout shelter on this. (sorry off topic)
[General Topics] Cyber-Flasher:
will this give apks and such more permissions, like to fully run? (not the laggy crap)
[General Topics] Csokis:
Hi!

I have a TIMMKOO Q3E. Is there any way to solve double tap wake/unlock (like LG phones)?
[General Topics] Thundraga:
idk but my device is just stuck on black/gradient on screen....steps need to be more precise......like choose/check box format+download, firmware upgrade, or download.....also do we check preloader and everything else? and dont say follow txt or SP tools guide when all the instructions leave a step out or add a step and i prefer if some not put up link/file but explain the key steps that becuz i feel its the main reasons us noobs are ending up with unsuccessful flash on our devices....

sorry if im being too forward, just frustrated....Thanks
[General Topics] Small_ed:
the main way to flash these devices that I've done countless times, here is a basic guide that may be easier to follow:

FLASHING

1. Make sure everything is prepared

Download (on the first page) either the Q5 version or the Q3 version (they are practically the same device, so it doesn't really matter)

Open Flash tool (Q5 update/Q5 update/ flash tool/ flashtool.exe) and set the Download agent to the MTK_AllInOne_DA.bin file.

Set the scatter-loading file to the MT6580_Android_Scatter.txt found in the Firmware folder

Set The flash tool to Download+Format.

Make sure you have your device, a cord (preferably the one that came with the device) and a thumbtack or sim ejector (sm poky like that).

2. Doing the process

Click Download on the Flash tool

Plug one end of your USB-C cable into your computer

Either press the reset pin and immediately plug in the other end of the USB cable into your timmko.

Or press and hold the power button, turn off, ok, wait a few seconds, then plug it in.

After the program shows "Download OK" unplug your device, and hold down the power button.

AS SOON as the Timmkoo logo appears, plug it back in and wait for it to boot. (if it shows charging screen, just press and hold the power button again)

After it boots you may unplug the device.

CUSTOMIZATION:

If you have another ROM you would like to use

1) Rename the original system.img to sm else and move it away from the Firmware folder.

2) Grab your new ROM (should be system.img, and maybe possibly even a boot.img) and move it to the Firmware folder.

3) that's it, your ready to repeat steps 1 and 2 on the FLASHING area.

Hope this helps!
[General Topics] Small_ed:
Not that we know!
[General Topics] Thundraga:
Thank you, Thank you! Thank you! much appreciated! That is very helpful and cant thank you enough and i hope others giving this a go will see this and have FAQ answered! and on a side note we dont need an auth file is that correct? i will give my device another reflash with your steps and see it helped....if it didnt help then my device possibly bricked?....lets pray not lol and again...Thank you!

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[General Topics] Small_ed:
I'm pretty sure the auth file is required.

Also look around these forums, a few pages back I think is a discord invite! be glad to see you there if you have further questions! If you don't want to join the discord, that's fine! I regularly check back here anyway, and I'll be glad to help you further!

EDIT: I did the looking, and @NoahDomingues posted this link: https://discord.gg/8TNTzhftkN
[General Topics] ewall3167:
Hey, I did the flashing and stuff, it worked, but the wallpapers wont work, it's just a black back, and the system img file is uneditable with the exe provided for my computer
[General Topics] AzureStriker14:
For the wallpapers, if you're using Evie Launcher, I've always had issues with it. I'd recommend Nova instead. For editing the system.img, are you using the Mo_Tool?
[General Topics] ewall3167:
yes, im using the mo_tool, it wont make the updated system.img, it goes to 75%, waits, then stops, no new System.img made
[General Topics] AzureStriker14:
That's weird. Mine freezes at about 90-98%, but unfreezes later with the new file. Did you move any files in/out of the Mo_tool folder? I can send you a zip file with my Mo_tool if you want.
[General Topics] Pilot_Matty:
Hi, thank you for your amazing hack.

Please can you

1. Make a way to revert my Q3 back to its original factory status?

3. The sp flash guide cuts off at the end, am I missing something?
[General Topics] AzureStriker14:
To install the custom firmware, make a folder with nothing but the custom system.img file and the MT6580_Android_scatter.txt file inside. Open SP Flash tool and choose a scatter-loading file (the MT6580_Android_scatter.txt file in this case) It should automatically find the system.img file. Ensure you're in Download Only mode and shut down your Q3E by pressing the tiny reset button at the bottom (DON'T hold it: that will factory reset the device). Press download and plug in your device. Once it's done downloading, you should have the new system.img running on your device.

I've attached a zip file with the stock firmware and a screenshot of what the SP Flash tool should look like right before you press download. To flash the stock firmware, do the same as above, but don't make a new folder and make sure you're in Format All + Download mode. the Q3E_Flashing_All_Needed folder has all of the necessary files. just select the included scatter file and you should be good to go.

Let me know if you need more help!
[General Topics] Pilot_Matty:
Thanks, does this include the original firmware as well? I do not want the Wi-Fi options on in settings, as I am giving this to my kids.
[General Topics] hackernotyou:
hey, im having trouble finding the scatter file, when i try to choose a file for the scatter loading file i cant seem to find one... please help
[General Topics] AzureStriker14:
Yes, the firmware should be in the Q3E Stock Update (07-02-2024)\Q3E_Flashing_All needed\Q3E-FirmWare-WV3.19 folder. The original firmware does have Wi-Fi settings, but no browser or anything like that. There may be a way to remove the Wi-Fi option, but I personally haven't experimented with removing settings yet, and there will probably be another way to access the Wi-Fi menu from another app (For instance, my sibling managed to get a lock screen on their device by attempting to open an APK file, going to security settings from the dialogue that appeared and setting a passcode, despite "Security" not being an option in the Settings app).
[General Topics] AzureStriker14:
The scatter-loading file isn't in the Flash tool folder, if that is where you are looking. It should be included in the files that Munk.3 and NoahDomingues posted.
[General Topics] hackernotyou:
yea, but the thing is, i dont see any scatter file at all
[General Topics] Messi613:
Can someone please help make this much simpler? I don't really understand all the steps.
[General Topics] AzureStriker14:
That's weird. Here's the file, just put it in the same folder as the system.img and you should be all set.
[General Topics] AzureStriker14:
I don't understand it much either. You can hit NoahDomingues up on Discord if you want. He's a lot better at this stuff than I am.
[General Topics] Pilot_Matty:
I advise you to stick to SP flash Tool, together with MoGu, Its much simpler imo
[General Topics] Messi613:
I had a Q3E which just didn't turn on after I flashed a system.img that worked on other devices, so I would rather go through this. Thanks, tho!
[General Topics] AzureStriker14:
By "other devices" do you mean another Q5/Q3E? If not, I don't think a ROM for a different device (Samsung, Motorola, etc.) would work here.
[General Topics] Messi613:
It was another Q3E, and I did the same thing that I did to other Q3E's and it just stopped working.
[General Topics] AzureStriker14:
Did the device stop working (Not turning on, stuck in a boot loop, etc.) or did the apps stop working?

Also, which mod are you using: Munk.3's Mod, Noah's Mod V6, or Noah's Lithium Mod?
[General Topics] Messi613:
I was using Noah's V6, and when I flashed it on the device stopped working completely, not turning on.
[General Topics] Messi613:
As a side point, I have a different Q3E stuck in a boot loop, how do I get it out?
[General Topics] AzureStriker14:
Does it work if you flash the stock firmware?
[General Topics] linv268268:
"A few months back, I acquired a device marked 'Q3E' from a Chinese second-hand market. I've discovered its functionality is somewhat limited. Could anyone provide guidance on how to utilize this firmware effectively? I'm new to this, so any assistance would be greatly appreciated."
[General Topics] linv268268:
His screen is now black and bright, And I followed every step of the way.
[General Topics] linv268268:
I have no words. The translator has mixed up my meaning. I followed the instructions, but q3e is now lit up with a black screen.
[General Topics] AzureStriker14:
Try flashing the original firmware and see if that fixes the screen. I think I put it in an earlier post.
[General Topics] notNoobplays:
I need help i tried it to flash the rom but it didnt flashed the rom correctly and now it wont turn on and i cant connect it to my pc
[General Topics] linv268268:
我也是
[General Topics] AzureStriker14:
@linv268268 @notNoobplays Which mod are you using (Munk's mod, Noah's Mod V6, or Noah's LithiumOS)?
[General Topics] hackernotyou:
hey so try tried flashing it, set it to download +format, this message keeps popping up, and i dont even see any system.img....
[General Topics] AzureStriker14:
You need to make a folder and put the scatter file and the system.img in it. Make sure nothing else is in the folder and the system.img is titled "system.img". Any other name and the FlashTool won't be able to find it. Also, if you're flashing Noah's Mod V6, you don't need the "Format All + Download." "Download Only" will suffice. If you're flashing Munk.3's mod (Which does require the "Format All + Download"), you'll need more than just the scatter and system.img files.
[General Topics] notNoobplays:
I am using Munks mod and i have fixed it again so my mp3 player isnt dead anymore
[General Topics] notNoobplays:
好的，我已經修復了它，我嘗試將其與我的電腦連接並斷開連接，因為它以某種方式連接，但不在我電腦上的文件管理器中，所以我連接並斷開它與我的電腦的連接，並嘗試在每次連接時閃爍它，它工作了你只需要重複一遍，我希望它應該有效
[General Topics] AzureStriker14:
Is it possible to revert the system to its base state after installing custom firmware?
[General Topics] NoahDomingues:
Sure! You just need to flash the stock (unmodified) firmware onto the device using SP Flash Tool, and you will have the original Android OS back again.
[General Topics] AzureStriker14:
Thanks! Where can I find the unmodified firmware?
[General Topics] yarakus:
#Off topic # which linux distribution are you using?
[General Topics] NoahDomingues:
Hey there! I'm afraid I had made a mistake. I had decompiled SettingsProvider.apk, but I had accidentally decompiled the original APK, I realized later that has already tried this in his modified ROM and it didn't work - the Unknown Sources dialog disappears, but the APKs fail to install anyway. I tried modifying Settings.apk - but that doesn't work either, instead the settings app just disappeared from the device.

I have got Google Play Store running on the device - but apps still fail to install, presumably because of the same reason that APKs fail to install.

I have added a lot of other apps to my version of the ROM though, mine (named Q5 Mod V5, version will increase of course as it gets developed) is based on Munk's but I've added some other apps - Google Play, Opera Mini, Facebook Lite, YouTube Music (YouTube's main app launches but fails to load), Apex Launcher, Nova Launcher (the default launcher is included too, so you can switch between the three), Neon Rider (the game!), Hidden Settings (so you can access all the hidden areas of Settings), Via Browser, Phoenix Browser, and a few more apps.

APK installations still not working!
[General Topics] NoahDomingues:
Hi there,

I'm using Ubuntu for this - I have several Linux distro installations with me, but Ubuntu does the job for this.

I have Ubuntu 23.10 on a USB stick (full install) that I was using - however I kept having to reboot into Windows to flash the firmware (using SP Flash Tool) - and switching to Linux to modify the image, then switching back to windows to flash, got very tiring after a while. So I just downloaded Ubuntu on Windows through the Microsoft store, and I'm using that instead - It's a lot easier.

Hope this helps!

The Play Store app works, opens, you can sign in and browse apps - but downloads fail at the installation stage, presumably for the same reason APK installations fail!
[General Topics] NoahDomingues:
Hi Jayden!

Sooo... here's where I'm at. Facebook & Messenger - I've got Facebook Lite working, which runs perfectly - and FB Lite has Messenger integrated within it, so hopefully that solves one thing. FB Lite is on Q5 Mod V2, 3, 4, and 5 (the current one) - the upgraded Firmware for the Q5 (not tested, but should work on the Q3E too). Instagram - doesn't work. I've tried Instagram and Instagram Lite, neither work. They both open and show a splash screen, but they close pretty much instantly ("Unfortunately, Instagram has stopped"). Instagram is the app that I mainly want to work, because that's what I use most - and it would probably work if we tried an older version of the app (I used the latest on both). IG Lite is probably pointless, as before Android 6, as far as I know all versions just used a webview of Instagram.com, so the same thing as viewing Instagram in chrome, which works for me. YouTube - the main YT app installs and opens, but nothing loads - you get a "500 error" - no idea what it means. I have installed NewPipe Legacy, it runs but failed to connect once, not sure if that's because it's depracated or if I had set the time wrong or the network was disconnected, or something. I haven't tried YT Vanced because there's very limited space available when editing the ROM - you can't just load as many apps as you want. Mod V5 has pretty much maxed it out, adding new stuff (unless very tiny files) would need sacrificing something - ES File Explorer would be the first to go, that's 50MB (that's HUGE in these terms). YT Vanced needs Vanced MicroG too in order to run, which is pretty massive and I didn't have space for it. Also - YouTube vanced came down with this issue, where Google managed to block videos from being viewed. There was later an unofficial patch released to get around this, however I believe since the patch is so new, it doesn't work on Android 4.4.2. Not tried that, just making an educated guess. Play store - installed, opens, runs, signs in, works perfectly, can browse apps and stuff (and can remotely install apps by visiting play.google.com on another device, and selecting "Install on more devices" - choose Q5. EXCEPT! Apps download, but when they get to the "Installing" stage, they fail and get an error. It's just like with APKs! For Play Store, you need (in order of priority) - Google Services Framework, Google Account Manager, Google Play Services, and Google Play Store, all APKs. I have these all.

Hope this helps! Cheers =)

Editing any of the files can [usually!] easily be done using Notepad on Windows, or Text Editor/GEdit on Linux. I use both operating systems and both work fine - all I can recommend is turning on Word Wrap in Notepad (Format > Word Wrap) - and maybe changing the font to something more readable (I use Century Gothic, but choose what you like!).

Changing that value, however, did not solve the problem =(

Cheers! Noah =)
[General Topics] NoahDomingues:
Chrome 60 works, apparently. I don't have space on my system.img file to copy it - however, Munk says although it's newer and is better at some things, the preinstalled Chrome version is better in other ways. If you have an android phone, you can download the APK of Chrome 60, and use AppCloner to generate a cloned APK with a different package name (really easy, nearly always works!) and that way, you can have a side-by-side installation with both Chrome 60 and whatever the stock version is. AppCloner is just an android app, by the way, think it's on the Google Play Store.

I got Opera Mini, Via browser and Phoenix browser - haven't tried phoenix but I think Instagram doesn't load properly on any of them sadly, just shows the logo and nothing else. How annoying!

Cheers, Noah =)

This is what I mean, but sadly it doesn't work though I think. because google play doesn't seem to have permission to install apps, which is really annoying, and I don't think remotely doing it would make any difference.

Aw cheers! I haven't uploaded it yet, just finished V5 today - been so busy with uni work! I've got so much work to do but this has been too fun! 🤣 but I'll try get it uploaded. Also - I think I realized something! I'm a bit busy right now, but I'm pretty sure you can flash a new ROM without losing your data and files. I think!

Cheers, N =)

Hi everyone!

Here's some screenshots from the Mod project, V5. Currently using Apex Launcher, but it comes with three options that you can switch between whenever you like - Nova Launcher, Apex Launcher, and Launcher3 (the original, default).

You can uninstall Nova and/or Apex if you wish.

NOTE: Launcher3 is the only launcher that you can run Gallery from! For some reason, the icon only appears in the defualt launcher, and you can't launch it from the Manage Apps bit in Settings.

How strange!

Anyway, I'll get it uploaded as soon as I have time, for you all to enjoy! In the meantime, I'm trying to port a ROM from the Blackview A60 EEA (I think that's what it's called!) - it has the same MTK6580 Chipset, has the same 1GB ram, similar storage, except the A60 uses Android 8.0 (Oreo) Go edition. That would be perfect! I have the ROM files if anyone feels like trying to port it, it is pre-formatted to be flashed in SP Flash Tool too.

Cheers, Noah! =)
[General Topics] Karlnoon:
Hi, I try it on Q5, but when the green flag apperied.. i try too start the q5 but not happent... so what now? And when i try A metod again with old system, in flash app the 100% came up in red strip and the app close. I dont know what to do now
[General Topics] NoahDomingues:
The red bar isn't the one you want - it should show a purple bar, then a red bar, then a yellow bar. I forgot if it's red or purple first, but you definitely want the yellow bar to finish, then you can disconnect the Timmkoo, and power it on.
[General Topics] Karlnoon:
So i should try flash again and again