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[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Bigmille:
After 1 week of usage according to AccuBattery after clean install. The stock battery history split into daily instead of charge cycle is useless to me.

Mix of 5G (at work) and WIFI (at home), white mode (day time) and dark mode (sunset).

QHD+ resolution, auto brightness (i like brighter screen), adaptive motion smoothness.

I don't play any games, mainly YouTube, music, audiobook, reading Diacord and websites.

So battery life is really good. You are going to be cross eyed if you try to run down the battery during in one day! 😅

Also anyone noticed the Ultra only charges around 20W to 25W? I never seem to have my charge at 45W with different chargers and cables that can output 100W.

I seen YouTube videos that goes from 0% to 60% in 30 mins of charging, which is what I'm getting at 20W.

So how do you get 45W charging out of this phone, and how much quicker would charging from 0% to 50% be? 🤔
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Paz9:
What's horrible? My Samsung or pixel? If my pixel I agree, if my Samsung you must be joking lol
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] blackhawk:
Is it 5.5 hours SOT total or with 40% battery still remaining?

With that battery capacity and chipset it should be good for 13 hours SOT minimum.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Paz9:
40% remaining with everything on.

Do you have this phone? Do you get 13hrs SOT with everything on?
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] bodomfan:
I'm on that battery seems a bit less lately though for me
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Paz9:
Not sure why routines is using battery, I don't have any routines enabled...

Can't fault the battery, 5g+wifi on BT and gps on the whole time, about 1 hr hotspot, 30 mins AA wireless.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Paz9:
I believe it's enabled by "default" setting

But always good to leave it on, it's enabled by default on pixels

My pixel 5 lasts 2-4 days between charges.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Sysop_PNW:
Preliminary findings indicate that Battery Guardian, part of Samsung's Good Guardian app, may effectively mitigate battery drain issues on the S24 Ultra. Initial estimates project 22+ hours of battery life on a full charge, with heavy SOT. Device firmware is S928U1EU1AXCB.

I'll report back tomorrow with more details

Current display FHD+ @ 120hz Static

Network is 5G NR SA/WiFi

Bluetooth Enabled with connected devices
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Paz9:
Not sure this is following battery usage, I have no routines...
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Klaudas:
"Included Packages:

Samsung DeX System UI

System Ul

AlwaysOnDisplay

Modes and Routines"
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Sysop_PNW:
Here's a 24hr run and I still have %11 percent battery. Overall this app has improved my battery life significantly.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Paz9:
No aid, no dex, and no routines..

So it's system UI I guess
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Paz9:
I don't have that app in Australia: (

How does the first option differ from the battery optimising in battery settings?
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Sysop_PNW:
I'm not 100% sure because I already use battery optimization in settings.. but after using battery guardian I've noticed a big difference.

Here's all the .apk file's
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Sysop_PNW:
Here's what Gemini says
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Paz9:
I wonder why it's not available in Australia?
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] blackhawk:
Hand optimize it. That junk never worked well or right. It takes time but when done the results are instant and superior.

Probably about 70 system and bloatware apps should be disabled depending on what you want it to do.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Sysop_PNW:
Here's what I found

Samsung may limit app options in different regions due to:

* Licensing agreements: Some apps may not be licensed for distribution in certain countries.

* Local regulations: Different countries have varying laws regarding data privacy, content, and censorship.

* Cultural sensitivity: Some apps may be inappropriate or offensive in certain cultures.

* Technical limitations: Some apps may not be compatible with the networks or hardware available in certain regions.

It's also possible that Samsung tailors its app offerings to better suit the preferences and needs of users in each region.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Sysop_PNW:
I do for certain system apps that I don't use. Still had an issue unitl I used battery guardian. Supposedly Samsung has fixed the battery drain issue with 2AXD3 firmware but that's bit2 and I'm not updating my bootloader.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] blackhawk:
Try installing Rethink firewall. It will show which apps are busy. Good for locking down stock Androids and uses little power. I use Data Counter Widget as well.

Android Services (a couple dozens apps bundled there) and Google play Services tend to be habitual offenders. Any cloud apps can as well especially if the screen off usage is high.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Sysop_PNW:
I'll definitely give those both a try! Thank you for the tips.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] blackhawk:
Rethink direct download.

XDA Rethink Thread
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Paz9:
Thanks for this

I'm going to try and use a VPN and get the galaxy app store to download it
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Liquid Li0n:
I use good guardian from the start since I have the phone. Only use the Battery Guardian app from Good Guardians.

I do not see the added value of the other 5. Especially the Battery Tracker, don't saw much difference with the OneUI Battery tracker.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] blackhawk:
Galaxy App Booster is the only one that does anything beneficial. The rest are superceded by either management or better 3rd party apps.

If you're phone using more than 400 ma an hour just browsing you should sort that out.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Liquid Li0n:
So, you would remove the Battery Guardian app again from Good Guardian?

How can we check the phone is using +400 ma/h? Is that with Galaxy App Booster or somewhere else?
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] blackhawk:
I use Battery Tracker still but after Android 9 it's less useful and sometimes inaccurate like with Rethink firewall.

The Google and Android system apps aren't showing anymore starting with Android 10.

I use Package Manager to look at that as it's link to setting is faster.

If it gets 10 hours SOT using 4000 ma, that 400 ma @hour or 400 mAh.

Simply divide total ma used by the time the screen is on.

Generally screen off consumption is inconsequential but if background crap is running that may not be true.

Battery Guru does an ok job although it's advance stats can be convoluted. It's pull down notice is a good quick reference.

It's history page like Accubattery's is also useful. I like the pull down more for quick reference as it uses less battery then opening the app.

After charging, just browsing with Brave (no/little vids streamed) 6-7% SOT is typical for this N10+ with a appropriately 3900 mAh battery. It's lower than that here because it just got done charging and hasn't got a large enough sampling yet.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Liquid Li0n:
But what is an S24 with Android 14 doing compared to an Note 10?
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] blackhawk:
You should be able to do better especially with 1000 mAh more battery capacity, more efficient ram and SOC.

If you're using 500 ma/hr or more it's going to be hot running. It may have a bigger battery but its surface area for heat sinking is about the same. I can sit here and surf Brave in 95F ambient heat all day without going over 100F battery temp.

Full charges, high temperatures and fast drain rates rags out the battery reducing its lifespan. This is preventable by addressing the power hogs early on.

The S24U is likely capable of 13-16 hours SOT while still maintaining good usability/functionality.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] bodomfan:
Never seen anyone hit 13 hours
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] blackhawk:
Hard to say by the stats many S24U users are posting as you can't easily see the actual SOT.

Given the hardware it should be capable of that but not sure what would need to be done to get that.

Out of the box Samsung flagships tend to be incredibly hungry power hogs. Flipping a couple switches isn't going to change that. I don't use global power management at all... completely hand optimized and these are stock Snapdragons. I double my SOT from 6 hours and my screen off (phone/internet on, using tap on AOD) usage is now >.5%@hour.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] bodomfan:
Easy to tell from here
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] blackhawk:
SOT and what's it using with screen off?

Worse it doesn't show multiple system apps that are prime offenders constantly running in the background.

Ever since Android 9 Device Care is next to useless. I don't waste time looking at it on Android 10.

This is a lot more clean cut...
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] bodomfan:
Shall I download battery guru
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] bodomfan:
Has annoying ads in the app lol
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] blackhawk:
Simply use Rethink firewall to block it. It doesn't effect its functionality.

🤣🤣
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] bodomfan:
I used DNS adguard
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] blackhawk:
I was using that. Rethink is much better and freeware to boot. Been running Rethink for about 3 months.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Liquid Li0n:
And also, people that get such high SoT maybe use it in very low brightness.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] blackhawk:
Brightness doesn't play a big role if under 50%.

Using manual brightness is easier on your eyes.

I generally run between 30-40%. Higher for movies.

Large up/downloads can suck it up.

Those apps that waste 1% @ hr or more can start to add up. I don't allow any social media, banking or sales apps on the phone.

Typical profile:

What Android services is using. This is meaningless unless you time how many percent per hour is being used. It can vary a lot as dozens of system apps are bundled in. It's important to keep an eye on it as it can go nuts.

I clear the memory, run SD Maid Pro, clear browser cache or data as needed and reboot if it goes nuts. Sometimes turn it off; it will restart if needed eventually.

Google apps are using very little as most are disabled at least temporarily.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Paz9:
Does anyone know how thermal guard sets the increase ceiling for thermal throttling?
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Berserker900:
Hi, sir could you guide me through the app.

Kinda never used it and it's pretty more advanced than adguard.

Thank you.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] blackhawk:
Play with it. I couldn't get the proxy to work but it's not needed.

Use the DNS log to see what's being blocked or needs to be blocked.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Stinky-Winky:
Hi everyone.

After battery issues, i've made a factory reset and now my SoT is great.

Before i had 5h30 for 20% left, now seems to be okay and like it was when i bought it.

5G, Bluetooth and GPS are activated.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Berserker900:
Awesome, this does look like a hard core app. I will miss around and see.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] blackhawk:
I'm liking it. It allows for settings backup too.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] bodomfan:
I may do this tomorrow
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] bodomfan:
Rendering with motioncam takes a bit hit on battery it seems
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] bodomfan:
What's your sot
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Stinky-Winky:
Actually 4 hours, 58% of battery remaining.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Stinky-Winky:
And i've downloaded and set up many app on the phone
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] bodomfan:
That's good with 5g?
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Stinky-Winky:
Yep
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Liquid Li0n:
Wait a week or 2 and it is maybe bad or way worse again.

I'm sometimes considering a factory reset too, but it is so much work and I didn't use smartswitch or anything at all to start with.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] blackhawk:
Factory resets should be reserved for malware that can't be easily uninstalled, user data partition corruption and acts of desperate men.

Otherwise it's always best to track down the root cause and fix it.

If you leave the firmware alone an Android load can last for years.

The magic power switch fixes don't cut it. When you find and resolve the causes of the excess power usage you'll see the results (or lack of) from that moment onward.

If you wait 2 weeks you simply waste 2 weeks; the results will never be optimal.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Liquid Li0n:
I was watching some stream via chrome for an hour or so but still... Chrome, whatsapp and Samsung homesceens are top 3.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] blackhawk:
I see part of the problem. Lose the trash apps.

Social media access by browser login only.

What is "Startpagina"?

The trashware is likely driving up usage by various Android and Google services apps too.

Both of these are running in the background; they need to be monitored and addressed if they're going nutz. On an unoptimized Samsung they usually are.

I don't use Chrome, prefer Brave and Samsung browser for vids. Battery usage may be similar, don't know. Brave has never been breached in 5 years so it's where I do most of my surfing. Samsung browser has been breached but it didn't survive long🤣
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Liquid Li0n:
Startpagina means startpage. So the homepages of the OneUI interface.

Maybe because of widgets or app shortcuts?

Some apps, like Facebook or so cannot be removed without root. And I have to say that social media is my number 1 thing on a smartphone.

WhatsApp, messenger, Teams, telegram, Facebook and Instagram...
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] blackhawk:
Not sure, it's not on Android 10. Investigate it, what it does, it's dependencies if any and if needed.

I package block it. Or you can use adb or ladb edits to keep it and other bloatware from running at startup. Rethink firewall will block them but they will still run in the background somewhat.

Kill them all... the John Wick optimizing method🤣

They are using more resources than you likely realize. The fb apps are especially bad.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] ethical_haquer:
I would use UAD (Universal Android Debloater). It doesn't need root.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] blackhawk:
There's this thread.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] ethical_haquer:
I've seen that, but it's only for Windows. Thanks for mentioning it though.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] blackhawk:
Not sure which better. Since I'm running Android 9 and 10 ladb edits aren't an option otherwise I might go for those.

I need to eventually replace Package Disabler so it will be one of these apps in the near future.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] ethical_haquer:
👍I haven't looked into LADB before, how do you like it?
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] blackhawk:
I can't run it; you need Android 11 or higher.

Not upgrading for that!

9 runs the best, 10 is ok, 11 is suffering badly, 12 and higher are fubar.

That aside if you can run it you can disable and enable on the fly with no PC.

That's a huge advantage.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Liquid Li0n:
I put some more apps to snooze. Also the chrome browser and this one seems to become more battery friendly. But I noticed something strange. But don't know if it involves the putting to deep sleep some apps.

I can not send every GIF in Whatsapp anymore. Some I can, most I can't. I can select it but when I sent it, it says that it cannot get send. I reverted the chrome browser that it doesn't snooze, restarted the phone, removed the whatsapp cache and checked for updates. But it doesn't work.

someone has the same issue? or something similar? Maybe on the background it needs internet that got blocked by snoozing an app?
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] flashflash:
Yes, same for me. I thought I was in a bad reception area but your experience now points me to some apps a recently put to sleep to save battery.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Berserker900:
I

Might do the same, coz the battery sux a lil bit
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] eh58san:
Hello, I'm experiencing an issue with my phone's battery life. I'm not a gamer, and I primarily use my phone for daily tasks while connected to Wi-Fi, not cellular data. Despite this, I'm getting very low screen-on time. I'm not sure why this is happening, and I would appreciate any assistance in resolving this issue. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] rikken:
Batterylife on the Ultra is overrated . My Xperia 1 VI is in another league 👍
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] bodomfan:
I've seen it get excellent battery,what's the Xperia getting
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Liquid Li0n:
got a bit of a similar thing. no gaming, always black theme, etc

try to snooze most apps that don't need to give push messages.

I noticed that, since I snoozed Chrome, my battery is slightly better.

Also the routine I made to, when connected to wifi, that it switches to airplane mode, is helping a lot. And I still get calls and texts via the call-through-wifi option.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] bodomfan:
What battery do you get
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Liquid Li0n:
it is just so random...now I really had a good battery streak while on other moments I seem to do the same and doesn't even reach 24 hours...
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Guyinlaca:
Battery life was awesome until the past few updates. Now within an hour of unplugging the phone, it's dropped to 94% or less. Perhaps there are more background processes.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] blackhawk:
That's 6%@hr SOT. I don't see a problem.

>10%@hr SOT using the browser surfing with no streaming is a problem.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] TheMadScientist:
Hello good sir lol. I just got my 24u the other day and its still settling in but you know me Im aiming to set a pretty decent sot record again lol One of these days Ill show you like 14 16 hour sot
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] blackhawk:
There's no settling in, only optimizing. Never saw the adaptive junk work right. It uses resources in itself. I run a pretty AI free setup though. No bixby or Google assistant.

Cloud backup is hard to do without if there's no expandable storage. Not sure how much that will impact it. If using the full potential of the 5G bandwidth it may not use that much.

14-16 hours SOT should be doable. At least 13.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Liquid Li0n:
14 to 16 hours SoT...I don't think that is possible with an S24 Ultra
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] blackhawk:
Should be able to. My N10+'s can get up 13 hours typically more like 10-11 hours with a 1000mAh smaller battery.

Their SOC's and ram should be noticeably less efficient than the S24's.

The efficiency of the newer displays is unknown. 5G if used improperly will waste resources. Reliance on cloud backup is a potential energy pit as well.

Camera efficiency unknown, but using AI excessively will jack up power consumption.

If you use all the bells and whistles it's going to be a hot running hog, a real menace.

Without optimization the N10+'s typically get 5-6 hours SOT; they will run hot as such. That will interfere with usage and greatly reduce battery lifespan. It also slows the phone down noticeably especially in high ambient temperatures. You should never see noticeable lagging with these phones except with the browsers (slow websites etc). They shouldn't run warm at idle or when using the browser (no streaming).

The S24's Snap chipset is suppose to be free of issues found on some of previous ones.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] bodomfan:
Don't know what magic they did but July update is the best the battery has been
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Goku1992:
Thats good mate :) you need the Samsung 45watt charger. But it isnt much faster so im using 25watt...
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Bigmille:
I saw a video of OnePlus 12 charges from 0% to 60% in 20 mins. So 45W charging is probably somewhere in between 20 to 30mins.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] MartinMKR:
After a week of use, my "expert"opinion is that the battery life is somewhere between 6-9% better than the S23U, which is surprizingly good for me.

I have both 25W and 45W original chargers, i can tell you that the difference from 10-15% to 100% is roughly 5-6 minutes. If you happen to need a new charger go for the 45W, but if you already have perfectly fine 25W one -dont waste your money.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] bodomfan:
Nice
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] lawtq:
This phone is greatest I've ever seen on wifi. But data drains it faster lol. Excellent on wifi but only good on data, like most phones I guess
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] MartinMKR:
This guy just tested 45W/25W/15W and the results was laughtable
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] jaseman:
Well, that all depends on signal strength and distance to the nearest tower. If you live in the boondocks (far from the city) then more power needed to maintain a good cell connection. Nature of the beast!
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] lawtq:
True. There is a lot less difference in battery life though in the nubia z60 ultra. I think Samsungs modem firmware could be improved. Possibly a csc change child improve it
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Rapier:
I'm pleased with the battery, last a bit more than my S23U under same usage. Some figues below...

Also I never ever seen the phone charging with more than 37W, it is most of the time fluctuating from 15W to 25W and sometimes goes to 32-35W. Maybe the readings of the cable are not exact but it is the same with S23U
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Bigmille:
I'm very happy with the battery life.

A full day's (24 hours) usage is possible for me.

Here is an almost full day of heavy use on mobile with photos and navigation. With 13.5 hours of active use, I still had 15% battery life left.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] bodomfan:
Currently on 7 hours 24 mins sot with 53% remaining
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] lawtq:
Excellent. Must be on wifi only or mostly though, correct?
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] bodomfan:
All WiFi, streaming a football game helped boost sot by 100 minutes
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] lawtq:
This thing is so good on wifi. How do you find it in data?
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] bodomfan:
It's good on data but not exceptional,but then what phone is
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] bodomfan:
Nearly 11 hours sot,24% left
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] lawtq:
The nubia z60 ultra is lol. Really good on data. I'm sure a modem update will improve s24 ultras data battery usage
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] bodomfan:
Definitely
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] KosInUK:
Battery life is good, im getting 1Hr & 20 min, for 10% of battery use.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] TheMystic:
Made absolutely no difference to battery life over the 2 weeks that I had it enabled.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Majkl_CZ:
Im not very impressed by battery so far. But lets see. I might use it more now because it is new phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] T1Cybernetic:
This is battery related ;) so bare with me and check out this setting. It may save your battery and it could last a lot longer, especially as the phone will not be getting as hot.
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] Liquid Li0n:
This is actually quite a nice feature. As it just bypasses the battery so does not stress it.

I am not a gamer but I instantly think about something similar when using the phone in the car for longer trips, having brighter screen + 4G/5G + GPS + bluetooth. What I always noticed, on older phones, with usb port as charger or older 12v (cigarette lighter) charger...the phone still lost battery or remained on the same % over a few hours.

So if I would buy myself a decent PD car charger, switch on this function on the S24, would I get the same battery bypass situation you think?
[Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra] T1Cybernetic:
I thought exactly the same! I use my phones for navigation as I'm a delivery driver and the first thing I do is setup my mounts and plug my old xiaomi phone in to the trucks usb /cigarette lighter socket and plan my routes.

This setting /feature should be available for all devices. It would have saved a lot of battery damages over the years.

I'm not much of a gamer on my phone either, I prefer the PC but my phone does get toasty hot when it's plugged in and navigating, watching videos, video calling and so on, so this will definitely come in handy if it works under those kind of circumstances.