yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] junglebubu:
Hi,

I'm still using the very first version (1.01) with recommended radio since release day and I have noticed 2 more problems/bugs ...

- contacts has become very very slow... when I open it, the list of all people is empty and slowly builds up (3 sec / name, I may have 100 contacts in it). It hasn't been always like this. I don't know where the error comes from. The only thing I installed was the last beta from Opera .... after the building of my contacts list, the Kaiser becomes really slow in normal handling (for 5 seconds)

- where my next bug lies ;) : When I launch opera for the first time after a soft reset, it all works fine. Then the second time(after it was completely closed) it does not come up, no splashscreen, just the taskbar (text that replaces "start" in the left upper corner, displays the title of the last page i visited with opera. But no Opera Window. When I touch anything else, e.g. the clock or calendar, the clock/calendar is displayed and no traces of opera in the taskmanager.

(is this phoenix related or rather opera?)

Greetings,

bubu
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] PizzaRoll:
I actually have the same issue with Modem Link and Task Manager v2.9 by FdcSoft. I am using version 1.01. Not sure what the bug is but its not just isolated to opera.

Also I had bluetooth DUN working 2 days ago on this rom and got it to connect to the GPRS. However, It promptly stop and I am trying to figure out why.

r 1.65.21.18

g 25.88.40.05h

d 3.34.00.00

SPL-3.56.Hard

Thank you and keep going. This is one of the best roms I have tried.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ddaddy1982:
A non M2D probably will make sense, but this is as naked and lite as it can be, in my opinion.

DG
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mayhem963:
hello! cant wait tommorow!

please create lite version /(non-manilla) and naked too!

it would be great...unless fully functional manila will be done in landscape
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mike Hancho:
Tomorrow cant come fast enough - I am ready for what sounds like a great ROM.....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] parleyp:
I am considering it...how lite do you want it? No opal volume control etc...please leave me a post about what you want stripped out other than manila...I'll tinker with it. It is not too hard to do it, as long as I know what you guys all want.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] parleyp:
I noticed that too..Whatever screen you are on, the button at the bottom is enlarged...I'll poke around the xml file and see if I can find the setting to shrink it just a little bit.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mayhem963:
Hello' Lite version should probably like this... I would love such version, hopefully you can do it.

so please if you can remove:

Apps - Google Maps 2.3.0.9 (Latest as of 12/24)

Apps - Opal Large Title Bar

Apps - Opal Random Access

Apps - Opal RSS Hub

Apps - Opal Volume Control

Comm - Connection Setup

Customization - Opal Enlarged Start Menu

Dialer - Opal Phone Canvas

Keyboard Skins - BL OSXGreen

Manila 2D

Manila 2D - Touchflo 3D Skin

Manila 2D – N2A Patch (Custom Weather Enabled) WITH scotchua’s Manilla fix

Multimedia - Opal Album

Multimedia - Opal Audio Booster

Multimedia - Opal Audio Manager

Multimedia - Opal Youtube

SIP - Opal Keyboards (not the whole EZ Input Suite… yet)

Tools - Advanced Task Manager

Tools - ClearTemp

Tools - File Explorer Plugin

Tools - Opal USBtoPC

Tools - PHM Registry Editor

Tools - Pocket RAR
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Moe5508:
Yep, Mayhem963 has summed it up pretty nicely...although his suggestion is for me, at least, the NAKED version...it looks really bare-bones.

LITE version, personal preferences for me, would be:

OUT: M2D (and all dependencies)

OUT: RANDOM ACCESS

OUT: MULTIMEDIA (any kind of app)

OUT: Google apps + RSS

OUT: Any custom SIPs

OUT: CUSTOM DIALER

OUT: TOOLS (all)

OUT: OFFICE

But included would be all those HTC apps that seem to form a part of the op system and for which there are no/better alternatives:

IN: LARGE TITLE BAR

IN: LARGE VOLUME CONTROL

IN: LARGE START MENU

IN: CONNECTION SETUP

IN: USBtoPC

Alternatively just call it non-M2D, strip out ONLY M2D and away we go. Really just to give the option to those using other Homescreen plugins such as SPB Mobile Shell, BatteryStatus (Homescreen UI++, its called these days, I believe) and HTCHome (yes, some still use this!!!).

You'll probably get a thousand wishes/opinions/variations about what goes/stays so we'll leave it up to you Mr Chef on exactly how Naked/Lite the non-M2D release will be! Thanks in advance.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mayhem963:
well I would not include

IN: CONNECTION SETUP - can be installed via cab..you set your settings and you can uninstall it...so its useless to keep it inside unless you changet between 100 sim cards

IN: USBtoPC - unless properly bugfixed on kaiser, I would leave it out because its cause of many active sync issues.

IN: LARGE TITLE BAR

IN: LARGE VOLUME CONTROL

IN: LARGE START MENU

this is fine with me as well...just in need of more speed its better have such things out/installed via additional cabs

keep office inside is better because its big PLUS of kaiser (windows mobile)

well if you keep rom as light as possible it would gain more speed

and providing list of addons (cabs) modified to work well with rom would be best...if you would be able to provide wide library of addons you could keep rom as light as possible..so it would be even faster... oh well just my few cents and try to be usefull ..sorry :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] anewbie:
why naked and lite?

Please forgive my ignorance. This is a general question, but since you guys talked about it, so I post my question here: why would one want either naked or lite version of any given ROM?

I see that total flash storage is 135 mb. With all of these software packages loaded, it only took up almost 9 mb, which is less than 7%. How much space can you save with taking out those packages?

As for RAM, 85 mb - 40 mb. Can you just not run M2D, or some processes to get the saving?

As you can tell, I am very new to this. Just like to understand. Thanks very much!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mayhem963:
hello! no ignorance at all...

naked and lite version are also usually faster...because of less files and you get more memory (and in windows mobile every extra free mb is great gain of speed)

with lite or naked version you can have free around 160MB and operational memory around 60MB /depends on used pagepool/

also less running processes and eyecand can help battery

another reason can be less files, less applications, less running files = less bugs = less problems :)

hope it helps a bit atleast
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] msd24200:
i like a full rom :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Moe5508:
Just to check with all who've been following this thread better than me, and maybe with the chef as well: is the M2D Full Fixed ROM being released today (Saturday 10 Jan)?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] parleyp:
Yes I am fixing a couple annoying things right now...will upload soon.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Moe5508:
Ah, thank you sir! Twill be the first time I'm flashing your ROM but I've read such great reviews and was testing MBarvian's Solace RC series for a while there, which I found to be EXTREMELY fast and responsive. So can't wait for this unique mix you guys have combined to produce!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Travito:
dododo, the stomach flu sucks very much, boys and girls.

How's the build coming parley?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] parleyp:
January 10, 2008

New verion 1.03.14

Links

Mediafire: http://www.mediafire.com/?bulzjd5dvwn

4Shared: http://www.4shared.com/file/79956264...enix10314.html

Fixes

RSS hub fixed and available in programs as well as m2d

AudioBooster removed replaced with SRSWOW HD with extended control panel because it works with BT and wired devices. Working on a shortcut fix..with a developer. It works but we have more testing to do and i don't have permission to release it yet.

Included as an installable cab mvarvianslandscape shortcut pane. it is not installed but in the windows directory if you want to install it.

Fixed control panel customization routine

Reduced the autoshortcut/sdautorun craziness on customization

More---check them out and post feedback. I have tried to fix everything but minor ui issues..Travito will gather the bugs up when he is feeling better and we can make sure we got them all. For active sync, the only solution that works is in the next post.

Added: Custom Splash Screen

Removed:

IME_EzInput_1_5_32704_1.cab

WINDOWS\eLiAs_ASyncKiller.cab

Opal Keyboard SIP

Add your own sip--I have no problems with the pcm sip or resco sip.

Links are up on the first page in post 4 too
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ddaddy1982:
Flashing right now,

parleyp you may want to edit the very first post and replace the date 12/24/2008 with the one of today, representing the new rom, just a suggestion.

Cheers,

DG
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Moe5508:
Fantastic! Thanks a lot, been hitting page refresh button the past hour...he he he...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] parleyp:
I need Travito to do that since he made the post.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] parleyp:
I wanted it out this morning. I'll work on the lite version for those wanting it tomorrow. I have a lot of stuff to do today..like paint my office so I won't be around much this afternoon. Please report findings, likes, dislikes and bugs...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mayhem963:
hello! sorry to post stupid question but sms/mms input bug fixed? thank you

thank you for lite version :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] parleyp:
I am not seeing it with the sip I use..just disable autocorrect and leave check spelling correct on. That is the only option that should be checked.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] parleyp:
update Bare is up

Bare is up. See post 5 for details.

Here is the link: http://www.mediafire.com/?2jkvlll2zyn
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Moe5508:
ParleyP, you sir are TRULY a great chef - thanks for the BARE!!!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Travito:
I'm on it cap'n!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mayhem963:
hello! testing bare rom...so far looks good but

-file explorer extension - can it be removed?

-calculator skin is ugly in landspace, try this one, credits to unknow soldier

http://uploaded.to/?id=xvydnc

-all menus are way too big, take almost whole screen, maybe use small font?

-missing voice recorder

-dialer skin (dialer) isnt removed...doesnt support videocalls...can you provide stock wm dialer in bare rom?

- block recognizer, letter recognizer, symbol pad and transcriber could be remover in bare rom

so far this are all problems and ideas

overall speed is very good....espacially camera is quite fast
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Travito:
I believe somewhere I mentioned that there is a recommended MSVC that we suggest, but due to preferences in the community varying, we didn't include one. Also, the one we suggest is by a now-banned forum member who has fallen out of favor, so if you find where I reccomended it, google that version number.

I didn't even know that the MS default SIPs could be removed?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mayhem963:
yes, it for sure can be removed...athineos and -g- roms got it removed...

chef of athineos is very good in removing things

any idea about menu size? I liked size in original htc rom...how can I achive it in this build?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Travito:
Parley would have to remove the large menu packages, they're big so they can be more finger friendly.

Or you can get KaiserChef2 by MBV and reheat it yourself, Parley hadn't done much cooking at ALL until he got it and started working on the old Omnia Solace2 betas.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mayhem963:
I am newbie with roms but I can try to remove that package...

how about dialer? reinstalling other one wasnt succesful for me

this is very nice rom...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] parleyp:
It is a registry fix...I am working on it right now. I have removed everything you asked except the recognizers...cause I am having a hard time finding them...but I will. I do like the calc skin you uploaded...it is in.

Voice recorder is available as a cab...if you can't find it, I'll upload it. I will NOT upload voice command....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] parleyp:
I removed the dialer too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mayhem963:
awesome! cant wait for refresh version...btw got no input problems so far!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Travito:
might I suggest changing "Bare" to "Light" being you're cooking up an absolutely Naked version? I would just say this on AIM but if i post it here, people will have a better idea of what happened if you decide to go that route with the names.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Travito:
I would like to gather thoughts on a customized version of the ROM where all error messages are in LOLCAT speak, and accompanied by the sound of Harrison Ford screaming OH SH!T WE'RE GONNA DIE! while your phone vibrates SOS in morse code.

Yes / No / Maybe / LOLWut?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mayhem963:
LOLWut? how about 1337 speak?

btw..bare in rom name is fine with me...or is it more Light? I dont know :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ddaddy1982:
YES or LOLWut!!,

I believe it will be fun to scare the s%^& out my iphone friends, but on the other hand we don't want to come up with other vista don't we :-( you know what i mean.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] skadamat:
should i flash?

I've flashed Hyperdragon 3 and athineOS before, and currently using AthineOS w/Manila. It is fast & Stable, but lacks in apps and this one is more omnia based, which i like..

So I was wondering...is this ROM faster than AthineOS? Apparently its the fastest out there, but If this rom is faster / same speed / a LITTLE slower, Id rather flash this one.

If you dunno if its faster/slower than Athine, plz tell me how much % of RAM is used with just manilla running, and no tasks/apps open.

Lastly, I think u should try 2 incorporate the New i.explorer into the ROM, like the hyperdragon III does. Does anyone know how to download/try it out? I dont wanna flash hyperdragon JUST to test out IE
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Travito:
I personally can't stand new IE, can't get mobile view to work properly, have to scroll left and right an insane amount on mobile sites.

You won't know how it stacks up until you flash. Granted you've got 7 posts to your name, you're new, but surely if you've been a good enough newbie to know how to flash ROMs and to know what you like in a ROM, you'd know that the only way to find out is to jump in head first.

Enter the flames of the Phoenix my friend and you will receive power.

... is this ROM starting to seem like a cult?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mayhem963:
well new IE looks cool but scrolling everywhere is very annoying...also it seems to be slower and has ugly scrollbars...everything else is quite good...but seems to cause more problems

well I am trying both roms and for quite long time and cant say...every seems to be faster in other tasks....you have to really try yourself to see what you like more...

sure why not :D actually its first rom for kaiser when chefs cooperate to make it better :) so why not make it into rom worshipers cult :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] parleyp:
New Really Bare

Here you go...everything you asked except the block, symbol and letter recognizer. I'll work on those tomorrow.

Really Bare

http://www.mediafire.com/?g2u0wyiyzdn

Now...bow.....

.......:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Travito:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7wc55oXWf8
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] parleyp:
We need a gregorian chant for a ring tone....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] parleyp:
I installed a nice opal dialer on the new really bare and it works great.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] parleyp:
Parley bows in humility...Thanks for the complement.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] parleyp:
Ok here's the deal--the block, symbol and letter recognizer are part of the standard sip...One dll does them all including the default sip...so other chefs are removing them by disabling them in the registry or directly hacking the dll. You aren't gaining anything from this other than having them not show up in the menu as an option. I can give cabs to disable and hide them if you want but don't think it is going to improve performance. I dissected the dll pretty welll and they are quite intertwined and I don't think it is worth the effort to do it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Travito:
I'm on it. ROM Creation is your forte, mine is audio

Also, TRIPLE POST EXPLOSION! :P

EDIT:

Done, ripped it out of the youtube video there, unedited. Attached.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bdbell:
mirror please

Could someone please post a mirror (rapidshare preferably) of the bare version - would love to try it out, but can not access mediafire from my location.

thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Travito:
rapidshare link to really bare is now in post 2. few minor tweaks over plain old bare. have fun with it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mayhem963:
hello! bare rom looks great only minor issues found so far

-activesync keeps launching and running in background

-settings - power - isnt showing percent, information tab isnt working and autoadjust backlight is useless (kaiser doesnt have sensors)

-cannot select multiple files in file explorer and cannot select multiple messages (sms,mms)

-settings touchflo isnt working... not even icon shown, only not working link

-calculator has two links one in office and other in programs

-comm manager isnt working, it has no skin or isnt fully removed?

-from my device isnt removed music folder containint some weird sounds (can it be easily removed?)

-googlemaps arent fully removed /can be found under application data and under programs files too/

-advancedtask, manillacustom weather, pocket rar, resumeplugin - left empty folder in program files

-same with windows folder many files forgoten (many graphic files)

-htc album files arent removed, same with audiomanager files...

-many files with random numbers are for what?

-can you remove useless files from windows folder from really really bare rom?

-can be connection setup removed too?

no big deals just minor issues. This is awesome! been worshiping since you upload it :D thank you very much
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bdi:
Mirrors for Phoenix1.03.14:

http://rapidshare.com/files/181935792/Phoenix1.03.14.rar

http://rapidshare.com/files/181936282/Phoenix1.03.14Bare.rar

Cheers
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Moe5508:
Mayhem, is this the REALLY BARE or just the BARE version? I have got all 3 ROMs but haven't had chance to flash yet... still tweaking and cleaning up my custom reg/cab files for auto-install with SASHIMI... thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mayhem963:
I am using really bare rom...if you are going to flash it please recheck buglist which I posted..if it is correct :) thank you
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Moe5508:
OK, here goes my check against Mayhem's feedback: please comments in BOLD RED above...

ActiveSync shortcut is in the Accessories folder...maybe this can go into the Communication or the Internet folder?

But I should say something: this ROM REALLY REALLY is SUPER_FAST and responsive! Changing from one menu to the other, closing open windows, navigating around is very very fast! Thanks again ParleyP, Travito, MBarvian for this collaboration.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mayhem963:
poutlook is very important for recieving messages I think

well according to power tab without % after battery line...if power from kaiser will be used...it will be imho better...it will show percents and everything will work...or what is plus to use other power managment over kaiser one?

selection via menu works...but not by stylus actually, what messages tweaks?

thank you very much :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Moe5508:
Congrats on reaching Senior Member status!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Moe5508:
Oh, man, been searching for that cab file that tweaks the Select All Messages setting but looks like I can't find it...it was Garmin, I think, who'd released it. Please check/search in his thread...

% Battery Performance: please install the attached cab file to your device memory - it'll give you % battery inside the battery icon on your Today screen...

Hey mayhem, looks like we're cross-posting! Let me go test the FULL ROM now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mayhem963:
thank you!

when I copied powerexe.exe from original kaiser rom it works! it showed % and works nicely....only menu under power tab isnt working and it showed some check1button...

pleae guys consider using kaiser power managment....it looks like it suits kaiser better..

btw anyone can provide original powerexe.exe for this rom to run some tests? thank you
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] parleyp:
Thanks for the feedback

I'll look into all these things. I did remove the diamond com manager. One very simple fix for comm manager is to load up advanced config and restore it to the original one then you will end up with the standard microsoft comm manager.

It will be a few days before I can do all the things requested. I'll put touchflo back in...didn't think you all wanted anything extra!

All those numbered files keep the rom chef friendly so one of you could use it if you want to learn how to cook.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Moe5508:
Here goes...Power file...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Moe5508:
Small minor really cosmetic thing, do you mind updating the ROM date to the current/release date? It still says Sep 2008, I think, and its no big deal coz can easily change with PagePool Patcher...thanks.

I'm currently testing the full ROM but will go back to the Really Bare shortly - I'm quite happy with Bare the way it is NOW without those cosmetic fixes!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] parleyp:
I am going to update the date and build number..just want to get close to finished.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mayhem963:
thank you very much! I hope that buglist posted didnt really annoy you...sorry for that

I didnt consider touchflo like something extra :) because it was already in stock rom... I think it should be in, so thanks for putting it back :)

Moe5508 thank you for files :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Travito:
hmm, I'm getting the itch to open up the kitchen myself, but just to customize my own version being i'm not the troubleshooting and coding guru that parley is.

Then again, I haven't had a career like Parley's so I don't expect to be one.

And don't ask him about that career! if he tells you he has to kill you! lol

Why do I have a strong urge to change the topic title to: [1/10/09] Kaiser Dream Team Presents: PHOENIX "OMGWTFBBQ FASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSST"?