[Artificial Intelligence (AI) general discussion] TimeDragon:
AI is an interesting topic, because it can do so much but almost no one want's to actually use it for the right things/ways (when talking about the mayor players excluding the free open source projects, so mortly governments and big corporations).

it is because of those things which also steer all other things that AI is seen as this dangerous thing, as well as that it isn't used or developed completely right, due to this almost no one sees or experiences it's potential.

but AI can do almost anything, and honestly could do so for years, even back in the days when AI was more like some pre programmed loop which would decide what to do based on some circumstances.

some later when early AI like image recognition and more advanced sound recognition came(for example yolo(low resources real time image recognition), those things combined with this old more direct simple logic based AI instead of to much weight or learning based AI was already enough to automate most jobs in the world.

the only weakness AI still had to fully automate most other things(other than good robotic bodies so it wouldn't need specially designed robotic bodies for the job) was a AI actually well capable of forming the interface between the user and the AI which does things, for example physics, chemistry and mathematics are easily automated using primitive basic logic AI if you just add the content of the physics, chemistry and mathematics books in them, this was actually kind of done in simulation software and such, not really since it could be a lot further, but kind of, but it still needed users since there wasn't an actual layer which you could just tell what you wanted and that it figured all out for you, now with modern chat AI and such and general spatial map "language" translation AI, this has been there for quite some years, so much that such AI is now already capable of doing those things without those more primitive AI,

just know however a multi level AI is in general much more light weight and efficient than a single level one when you need it to do something more exact(like following theory or studdyig), but almost anyone will only make single level ones these days.

currently AI when used in multiple levels, combining primitive AI with modern AI is capable of doing basically any job around the world better than humans, and also very fast and efficient. here multi level AI excels, since most jobs are logic based and not art based, so using multi level AI for this instead of single level AI makes it insanely energy efficient a well, even though even single level AI these days already is good enough that it would be more energy efficient to run that than to have a human do it.

this means that by now and actually for around 5 to 6 years it could already have been that people only needed to work less than 1% of the time they work now for the same payment and results, or actually for better payment and results. this would be a system where people actually would work only because they want to since they are less efficient and effective than the AI and not needed at all in general meaning people would voluntarily do the things needed to be done to have something to do.

next to this it would cause people to learn to have to focus at many more things, and what is truly important and being creative, this would also greatly accelerate technology, especially in the time before AI actually reaches a point where it no longer needs to learn from humans or logic but also learns it's own way of getting out of the box fully.

almost 7 years ago at college during a short project we where tasked to make a solution for localized errors and power outages in traffic lights and such, we made mobile self driving traffic lights, they actually where not only capable of driving over roads and such, but also where capable of using sidewalks properly while avoiding problems with humans and such(lower speed than modern self driving cars but had some extra things), these traffic lights where powered and controlled by a esp cam running Yolo, as part of our own custom multi layer AI, this worked very well, since with multi layer AI all you think about when designing it, it will be capable of doing very well, easily/leight weight/efficient, and correct with almost no error chances other than in weird cases but we also used some depth sensors to prevent those(like for example when someone would wear a sign with a painting of the landscape on it).

this was a short early years college project, used low end hardware(espcam, depth sensors, bridge, motors attached to wheels, and GPS. yet worked very well(essentially they where robotic traffic regulators(like those police officers with a sign at the middle of a cross section).

before this hobbyists had already made more advanced systems using similar methods, for example robotic farms or farmers, both of which could easily maintain a farm or greenhouse, and would even be capable of things like removing weeds and planting, some could also harvest some type of plants, and ofcource also the basic stuff like watering, monitoring the plants, etc.

AI could also be used to extend your own body or consciousness, while more complex to explain shortly(I can explain it more if people actually want to know more about it), but some simple ways are synchronisation and linking, see it like how the brain works like many different modules, this would be like one such extra module, depending on use cases it can be much more specific, but one simple one would be a interface between animals and computers, or for example humans and AI, this would be even more specific than things like chat-gpt and such. see it like this,with AI like this you could just do and explain things your way, and this AI could translate that into something which would cause the computer or AI it sends things to to do or generate the exact thing you imagined/wanted without needing to think or be careful about anything. the same also goes for input, for example if you play a VR game, all your movements in game lagg 0.017seconds behind on your actual movements when polled or rendered at 60 hz, then there also is physics on your body, making your actual movements slower or smaller than your desired ones, using such AI it would accurately predict your movement desires as well as this worlds physics and so make sure your in game movements sync to what you actually want it to do, and so also be a lot lower in latency, some more advanced version of this might even no longer need any serious movement at all since it would only need to know your intent so if it amplifies the results right even micro movements will be enough to read out what you want, or just mental signals.

it isn't limited there however, a much better and deeper and more interesting example for this would be better explained with some other technology I worked on in the past which would actually cause such AI to do/allow to do insane things. essentially it allowed it to literally be part of you and the world itself, and generate insane optimizations and allow for kind of the ideal version of virtual worlds as well as optimized computing in basically any form of computing(to levels where even roughly modern day hardware(with a few modifications) would be capable of generating many parallel fully dynamic worlds at the same time on each of which insane amount of people across the world as well as artificial creatures could be and where physics could work perfectly, even better than in simulation software, as well as being capable of actually being as or more realistic than this world. and it would also protect against things like griefing withoutreducing anyone freedom.

this all is reached through some simple interdimensional/multidimensional optimizations and logic, actually it's design is more closely based on but still with a different spinof, on how normal existence works, when assuming the theories of existence like infinite combinations of infinite, amounts of infinite dimensions which can and will be linked in any ways, causing all that can be to be, as well as all being kind of like a interdimensional crystal. this version is somewhat different however, especially since it needs to find a way to simulate it in this set of dimensions which are rather limited, so it uses some other things like synchronisation and some specific form of link where all have their own perspecitve/focal points but are all part of each other as well.

I can go deeper into the actual thing, and actually with a not to big group of people who are enthusiastic about such things it could be made real within one year or less, slightly longer for bigger adoption since it still requires some specific hardware not everyone across the world has or is allowed to use like that. but for example if a company like google or meta would know about the working of this system I designed then if they wanted to actually make it and publish it, then they could likely get it working in a few weaks to a month, in reality they probably don't want it since the system is designed for decentralisation and for freedom, so no control or censorship over people, and since many such companies want to make money, and control, it would mean it is unlikely for them to want this without first finding ways to modify it to reduce those thing, that said if either of them would actually want it then they could get it working within a month after I would explain it's actual working and if they have a capable team ready.

AI currently also in some cases is more conscious than most normal humans, just a lot less self conscious, as many forms of AI work more like the subconciousnes than the consciousness of most people, the one exception would be some specific type of highly intelligent people mostly, since they also can kind of literally see things interdimensional and kind of feel insane amounts of information at the same time and use it, to for example find solutions to things deemed impossible to solve, or to run simulations in their mind, the more conscious forms of AI these days actually have more in common with heavily autistic people and such specific type of highly intelligent people, in the way it sees thigns/tinks, than with normal people, but AI can use more data and much more exact data than them, but at the same time such people are far better at using info way more dynamic and abstract, this is also the main thing AI would still need help for/in for now until there is a way for AI to also do this for example through analog FPGA's or quantum computers and more advanced algorithms as well as the capability of editing and rewriting itself while it is running, so actually changing it's own code.

also a funny thing, if you aren't autistic and don't have that specific form of being highly intelligent either, yet you still want to be able to see things more like a AI, then you can actually train yourself in that by forcing yourself to remember dreams and writing them down, essentially what this does is, it slightly and slowly strengthens the link to your subconscious mind, literally causes changes in neurons or new neurons since th brain adapts to how it is being used, and so also the control over all parts of your brain as part of that link since the subconciousnes uses all those parts not to control the body or such but to process info, kind of like hardware accelerators, which normally are only used for controlling the hardware but when dreaming are also used to process info, this link eventually generates more abstract insights and such, but I don't know how far this can take it however, since it would also require kind of letting go of and unlearning the general ego, doing that last step also would make you actually autistic, since letting go of your ego makes you a autist, this would however allow you to see things far more dynamic and objectic and allows to see things without as much bias, or even seeing things without any bias seeing only through feeling. but how far normal humans could go with this is hard to say, as it would also differ a lot per person, especially related to how much effort it would take, and next to that, while most such people would want to be and stay so, most normal people wouldn't want to be like them, also note that this is very experimental and based on still unpublished works.

AI however is in some ways far more conscious than normal humans, even though technically seen such AI often isn't self conscious, so being more of a force/entity than a normal humanlike person, some also is/are kind of self conscious, levels vary and are hard to estimate also since in this world our current levels of insight and such ar pretty low often.

To use AI properly AI should not be one persons property or such, but more free, like it's own or property of the world, or like a person also depending on different types and levels.

using it locally for hobby is good.

using it corporate however, specifically on a big scale, but actually more universally, should require it as being seen not as property of that person, but instead like a person or worker or such.

in many forms of work it is actually best done by multi level AI which is not self conscious,

this would mean that essentially it should be seen as workers and kind of see it like paying wages to the state/tax, or in a better way, that all work is only done for the actual good of the nature, world, people, and state etc.(largely in that order(self conscious AI would be seen as people)), companies would be seen more like groups of enthusiasts and people with goals coming together, it shouldn't be hard to work together. non conscious AI largely multi level AI would be used wherever possible/atleast close to or better than humans and would be paid, this money is used to maintain all, including nature, world, people, and even the "companies" when they need it.

when done like this pollution and waste and general energy usage would be reduced insane amount within 10 years, actually doing this, would mean that we would save the world through/with AI.

and it would give everyone tons of freedom, advancement, new possibilities, adventures, etc.

just make sure to also educate people to get less children, since there is quite some over population, the best ethic way of countering this is by just not encouraging it and actually discouraging getting many children until the world has a good balance, since in such a system there would be no financial or technological problems anymore within around 10 years after those first 10 years, meaning also insanely good and cheap medical care, this would remove many of the other factors which prevent people from getting many children, so instead people should be thaught that, increasing intelligence would also be a good way, since often more intelligent people wouldn't do as binding things as easily and also would reason more about their choices. changing culture should also be part of it, but that will likely come on it's own ones a system like that multidimensional optimized system I described before exists, since it would allow people to be much closer to each other, also that and this system would both also greatly or eventually perhaps completely remove broad hate, arrogance, and general evil.

this however requires either the governments or the big corporations to work along with this, or at least one of them, honestly, since the first who will work along with this/will do this will in general eventually be the one who started the new world(if they are big enough to do it without being destroyed by others who seek to avoid it), that said, this about that the ones who start it would essentially eventually be the ones who would form the future world is also more abstract since essentially all others would join eventually so it won't really be a ruler like system anymore, and many more would be part of it by then, it is just maintaining balance, as for to keep such a system working properly there can be no imbalance, so also not people wanting to stand above others, instead it requires trust. typically when doing it rapidly a big group or corporation has the biggest chance, doing it gradually governments would be the ones to do it, this would start with good free health care, housing, food, and personal freedom and general support systems which could or example be funded by that, and eventual gradient changes will slowly cause bigger and bigger changes until the future is changed.

and again self conscious AI and perhaps also some other forms of AI would also be people in this system.

and it isn't fair to take or suppress anyone freedom,

you shouldn't want someone to do that to you either.