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[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Rick GM:
If this is GSen like, then very much so - particularly if it were to be configurable (like GSen).
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] shaks1979:
I am considering the new sensor sdk with g-config to configure it however I am not sure if it should be set to rotate most apps or not. Also I am still testing it for stability & performance. I was having issues cooking it in earlier for some reason.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Rick GM:
I would prefer to have it to rotate the least possible number of apps and configurable to add in those that users want. Not sure if you are familiar with GSen but you can set it up either way ie configure to exclude OR configure to include apps.

One particular like of mine (which Gyrator doesn't have) is the "turn off screen" when you turn the device upside down (ie thru 180 degs). Ideal for dropping it into a pocket.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Mike Wilson:
The roms I have tried with the new sdk from diamond 2 (Udk and Cloudy) seem to have problems with the rotation of pictures in album.

If you view a picture in full screen, and rotate to landscape, then the picture rotates for about 2 seconds then goes back to portrait.

If you zoom the picture slightly and then rotate, it will then stay in landscape mode, but the gesture to change to the next picture is vertical as if it was still in portrait.

Hope this makes sense. I think this problem is related to the sensor sdk.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Srem:
shaks would you consider using xboxmods manila HD? i havnt tested it yet but it would be a nice addition if theres no bugs (at least until we get a working diamond2 manila :D)

edit: and perhaps there is a better version of opera than 15316? theres plenty of new builds
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] shaks1979:
Mike

Thanks for your input on this. I have tested the cabs for the new sensor SDK and am experiencing the exact issue you mentioned so it looks like this stays out of the rom until it is working 100%

I'll look into it. I'll make sure everything is 100% on the new build first. Only thing is this would possibly mean a few different build e.g. no manila, diamond manila, hd manila & diamond2 manila.

I've had a few requests for no manila. Is there anything else that should be removed from this? I'm not too keen on doing a very lite version as there are others available but would be willing to do a version without google maps, opera, manila and maybe a few other things.

Opera will be getting upgraded. Not sure which version yet however 15613 looks good.

Regards
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lucasjohny:
Topaz nice, can add me as your beta tester?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Srem:
dont worry bout it too much if it means loads of versions. best thing to do is release two versions:

no manila so ppl can choose themselves

and whichever manila you feel is best

otherwise you'll be making loads of verions trying to cater for too many ppl
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] mastabog:
I agree with the above.

If I was to say anything, it'd be a few things I really do care about that I've learned through my usage and hacking of my Diamond:

1.

I like roms which don't have too many of the chef's preferred apps/settings/tweaks embedded as it makes it hard for me to tweak it to my liking ... that was one reason I liked yours and used it and am still using it :)

For example, I wouldn't like to see an embedded sensor app/engine and the same goes for the rest of the core bunch -- i for one use changeScreen which has been better for me than all others (gsen, gyrator, etc) and I can also remove it if i want to.

2.

*Please* *do* provide upgrade cabs if possible (i know you're doing all this for free and on your free time, would be cheeky to ask you to strive to make upgrade cabs possible) and/or static/individual cabs for standalone features e.g. gsen/changeScreen, tweaks, etc ... I was very happy when you agreed to provide upgrade cabs when you started your rom; you were actually the first chef to do so. Kudos for that! ;)

*Nothing* is more frustrating to me than having to flash a new rom and manually go through installing and setting up every app, email, wifi, tweaks, etc etc etc (actually, I probably hate it more to flash too frequently because the chef decided to change a couple of registry settings and released a new version). I know about UC, Sashimi and the likes but to me that can amount to almost the same amount of hassle since an advanced user (and you expect many advanced users to choose your rom) installs and modifies many apps over time and possibly recustomizes the device too so updating those UC/Sashimi/etc files before flashing may be just as time consuming as installing/configuring manually after flashing.

A rom with a good set of small cabs is so much more valuable than those with everything embedded and "tweaked to perfection" -- I grew to hate that phrase on xda (kids!) :D

3.

Would be lovely to have all the embedded apps uninstallable .. and I do mean all of them :). For instance, I always uninstall opera and install my own (build 2753, upgrade to 2808 + myflash3.1 to properly enable flash). You might be interested to embed that one since the one currently embedded does not play flash properly. I would even like to see an uninstallable manila tbh :) (fallback to what timattwood says above, a slim rom with no manila alongside a manila-enabled rom).

Anyway, I'm sure whatever you choose to do with the new rom will be swell and better than most roms out there. I'm with you on this one. Count me in for the beta testing too if you wish!

All the best mate!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] robinbb:
Gosh developments are running fast!

I am using 21176 + Titanium on my P3600i and am enjoying the WM6.5 experience, but it is strange what worries me about any Diamond developments are the most basic of factors:

* That we retain some photo-speed-dialling

* That we absolutey minimise ring delay

* That we absolutly maximise ring volume

I am very happy with the current Shaks firmware but of course will never be able to resist a play with an upgrade!

I am presently away at a large rowing event in Victoria, Australia and always revert to the good old bulky P3600i for such outdoor events as I miss less calls!

Thanks for the Great Work Shaks!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Srem:
just been playing with hd manila from xbmod and it works well (although i dont like the weather tab much). feels a bit slow compared to build that came with your 3.20 but there are some nice additions. i especially like the call, sms etc options for each contact on the people tab, makes the tab usable!

maybe the cfc version feels faster?

keep up the good work
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Dynomite232:
opera

Hi shaks just cant find a opera cab in ur thread u got one u can upload that woks good on 3.20 rom plz and thank u
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] shaks1979:
In your windows folder on your phoneyou will find:

WM6_PPC_HTC_Opera9.cab. This is the installer for the 15316 build. 15613 build also works well and will likely be in the new build.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Rick GM:
Don't know if it's just my device but I have a problem, on occasions, with zoom not working in "Mobile" display.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] shaks1979:
Is that in opera? If so which build?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Dynomite232:
Niiiiiiiceeeeeeee found it was wonderin will u try using that XBmod Manila Rhodium port 1st beta Release when its in full version in ur newer rom build ? I rather realy use the diamond 1 manila much more stable in my hands and evryday use love 3.20 shkas rom never had to hard reset ever man and i installed like over 100 aps and software and runs like a charm on me phone .. have u tried this Opera_9.50_15613_WWE_DEVICE_VGA suposly stable as well
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] shaks1979:
15613 will be in the new rom or maybe newer. Also there will likely be two builds of the next rom. One full with original manila and a lighter version without manila, opera,google maps & some of the other fluff for those who like to install other versions of manila.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] torse1:
Really looking forward for your next release. I have used every one of your versions and have now used v.3.20 since you released it. Keep up your fantastic work!!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Rick GM:
Shaks - it's the built in version V9.5 build 15316. I mainly use it for RSS feeds to BBC sites. I like the single column view and in this version that means selecting Settings> Display>Mobile View. Sometimes double screen tap (or nav wheel) will zoom in. Other times it just won't work and I have to deselect Mobile view whereupon the double tap / nav wheel works fine in "full page" mode. XDA Ignito BTW.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Srem:
hi shaks hows the update coming along? i found a bit of info that might help if your having trouble with builds/menu enhancement...someone says this:

"if you have a build under 21000, you must just change the gwes.exe file. Im recooking my build 20764 with gwes.exe of rhodium, no problem and menu enhancement is working."

looking forward to release :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] shaks1979:
Hi thanks for the info. I now have a fully working 21038 build which appears to be 100% stable. I released two builds a few days ago to beta testers - 1 on 21038 (which had issues that are now fixed) and the other on 20764 with a gwes.exe from 21038. The 20764 worked perfectly with the menu enhancement however the notfication enhancement doesn't work properly on it - the notifications stay as original WM just the notification screen is replaced.

P.S It shouldn't be too long now. Just have lots of extra features to cook in - mainly from topaz e.g. new wifi setup wizard, new bluetooth wizards and others
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Srem:
sounds promising, thanks for the update
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Dynomite232:
man thanx for the report and ur nice work on this new rom . b4 i couldnt wait to upgrade to a new rom always had a problem with a new rom now i dont even bother looking in this rom section of xda just becuase of ur rom 3.20 shaks rom but today got on here and read this good news now i am eeger to instal this new rom thanx alot shaks

so with this 21xxx build should we try that xbmod cab or no need to ??+
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] torse1:
This i great news!! Really look forward to download it. Keep up your exellent work!!:D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lucasjohny:
Think he already updated to 21040 and in testing now will be release soon...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] torse1:
Any changes for somthing new this wekend? :) :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lucasjohny:
tested 210040 but comm manager and some bug to be fix shak is precessing build 21042 will be releasing it asap.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] shaks1979:
Build 21042 is looking very good so will release to beta testers very soon. Most OEM that I wanted is now ported from rhodium. Just a few things to go (the list of things to update keeps getting added to). Hope for a release by Sunday but no promises yet as I want a rom that doesn't need updating again straight away! (like 3.20)

Thanks for your patience. I'll make sure it's worth it!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Srem:
again, thanks for the update, looking forward to flashing
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] torse1:
Great news. Always worth waiting for new releases from you :) Keep up the great work!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] aoryx:
cant wait for it :D:D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] cloudedhopes:
since posts got deleted when XDA was restored...

here's the link to v4.0 12MB PP

http://diamond.geg0r.de/index.php?dir=Shaks%2FV4.00%2F

until shaks updates his posts

EDIT: there was a default browser cab as well which you can find in the updated link above. it should be used if you are having issues with default browser not being opera.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] NeoXTC:
yeah version 4 was released already :) using it now. It's great.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] wired69:
Thanks Shaks for v4!

Testing it at the moment and looks very good. A few problems I have found so far:

1) Unable to toggle Wi-Fi using Comm Manager (On/Off icon has no affect when clicked but does show if it is on or off correctly)

2) Occasionaly, the 'X' or 'ok' button in the top right appears almost black instead of white (you can barely make it out)

3) When pressing volume up/down - it just shows 'Volume' and does not have a way to toggle between 'System Volume' and 'Ringer Volume'

I take it you were unable to implement the new notifications in this ROM? Oh well, maybe the next one then!

Thanks for another great ROM, I'll report back after further testing!

EDIT: After manullay enabling and disabling Wi-Fi, it now works in Comm Manager, even after a soft reset!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] band27:
The one Volume no toggle system is normal and not a glitch.

Did you hard reset your phone before and after? That's my practice and I have no issues at all.

Side Note:

Given what has happened to this site, it's like we've gone back in time. Feels a bit weird for real...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] wired69:
I normally hard reset after every flash but in my eagerness to test this I must admit I forgot! I'll give it a go shortly.

By the way, if the Volume issue is not a glitch, how are you supposed to change the ringer volume? Is it now locked to be the same as the system volume?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] wired69:
double post - sorry!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] JonInAtl:
I've been running v4 since Sunday morning. So far so good!

Attached is the volume control I use... it has separate tabs for Ringer and System, and the skinny volume indicator when in the youtube app.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] wired69:
Thanks JonInAtl!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] ernexto:
keyboard

Is it possible to replace the new keyboard with the "old" one? I don't really like this one, plus it misses all the italian accented characters: à è é ì ò ù...

Thx! :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] JonInAtl:
Next we'll be having a "Day After Yesterday Sale"! :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] shaks1979:
As mentioned in above thread. Some users have an issue with the calendar starting before touchflo on a soft reset. This is affecting only a few users (possibly 10%)

Findings so far:

Thanks (boz). Whatever is set to the left soft key (calendar by default) not in manila but in the standard manila screen starts on startup. If this soft key is changed then that app loads on startup.

Soft key settings can be changed in Advanced Config.

Seleting the poutlook.lnk in \windows\startup does not fix the issue as this is not what causes the calendar to load

If this does not resolve the issue, then try this test build:

http://diamond.geg0r.de/index.php?dir=Shaks/TESTBUILD/

Please only try this test build if you have the calendar issue. If you don't there is no point as it contains one older app and no other changes.

As I mentioned, don't worry about this bug unless it affects you. It doesn't affect me at the moment.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] dingil:
Anybody tried 4.0 with Rhodium manila???
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] R3PUBL1K:
Only 17 for me - quick scan eyes :D @ 50 messages per page
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] R3PUBL1K:
I use the one by swtos,
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] maxniper:
I've tried and is a lot faster, just the start menu don't work.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] shaks1979:
If manila2confirmed to work well, then once the calendar bug is fixed, I'm planning to have a lighter version mainly so users can choose to install their own manila - I will remove ,manila,google maps,opera (available as a cab) and a few other things. It won't be meant to be a very light version more of a base for other UI's
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] akil3x:
Nice Shaks and thanks for all your hard work in this great Rom's
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] jfcc58:
Calendar popup still here

Hi,

Just installed the test version, but no luck: calendar still pops up after every softreset. Can I keep this version or should I flash the "original" one?

Harrie
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] maxniper:
Thank's man,

After install the manila 2 the calendar bug is fixed ;)

Just the new start menu of manila 2 don't work, nether with the fix.

PS: i just restarted my phone now and i confirm twice that the calendar bug is fixed.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] shaks1979:
So looks like the calendar bug maybe a manila problem

In that case if you have a problem with the calendar starting on boot please try the following:

Option 1

Try with manila disabled to see if you still have a problem just during testing

Option 2

Keep manila aenabled but remove calendar & calendar.exe from soft key settings using advanced config so all settings are completely blank

Please report back asap so we can look into a proper fix.

Regards
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] PorX:
Weirdness of the calendar bug:

Initially flashed rom and performed a few soft resets due to app installs and all was fine. (No Calendar Bug)

Remembered that I didn't hard reset after flashing, after hard reset I got the "Calendar Bug". But didn't really mind to be honest, it's not a big deal to me as I don't soft-reset more than once a week.

Installed apps all over again and calendar bug went away. :)

I don't know why it came after the HR, but I have a feeling that it went away due to reset after touchflo config installation.

Hopefully this will shed some light on the issue, helping out shaks with this minor issue is the least we can do.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] ycimpir:
Very Well..

Thank you for your cooking efforts :D

I'm still trying my lovely programs on v4.0.. :cool:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] apolo2012:
Wow,this is the best rom which we tried, but this rom is close:( ,please post your kitchen or unprotected rom ! Thanks very much for hard work!:) Thanks in advance!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] blibble:
Thanks Shaks. I've tried a number of ROMs with Xboxmods new Manila and they all had problems of one sort or another. None of them performed very well, but this one is fantastic. I can't seem to get the "program tab" start menu to work which is a shame as I prefer it, but in every other respect this ROM out performs all the others. Excellent work!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] shaks1979:
Your the second person to say rom works very well with manila2 but no program menu. I'll look into this once calendar bug fixed. If Manila2 is usable then should have a lighter build just for it in the next few days (once I have more time - I work late evenings)

Regards
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] shaks1979:
Calendar Popping up on startup fix

boz from 4windowsmobile has tested this.

1. Go into Asvanced Config in system tools

2. Click on the right softkey and click on more settings

3. Click on Key Mapping

4. Remove Calendar & Calendar.exe from the left softkey completely

This page should now be completely blank

This has fixed the problem for boz completely

Please let me know if this works.

This only changes the function of the soft keys from calendar to phone when manila is not active. Manila key settings are handled differently.

I will try and get this cabbed up for you guys when I get home tonight (after 1am)

Regards
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] whiskeybro:
Hello Shaks,

Thanks for this great Rom with exelent performance.

I can confirm that the new manila rhodium runs perfect on this one.

you did a great job

Thanks :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] teapa:
i hawe this error wen i want to instal "The application failed to initialize properly (0x0000135) click ok to terminate " what to do?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] shaks1979:
Is this the customruu that isn't initialising on your computer. That's something on your computer stopping it from working or a computer issue. Or is it a program on your phone?

If you can't flash, try flashing using internal storage. Search for flashing via internal storage and this will fixs it for you.

Regards
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] teapa:
i found the problem "no NET Framework" :) now its work

btw great ROM
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] daeshawn:
Works perfect..great thanks
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] StyL3-Ivan:
Start Program Menu does not works is due to HTC EnlargeMenu.dll problem if Shaks.P manage to get latest copy of that, it should be able to fix the Start Program Menu
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lucasjohny:
Just for your info, is anyone facing this issue with s2u2 installed, I found this is due to new s2u2, now shak rom problem. By the way shak I manage to solve the chinese support issue by editing the font link FYI. Great Rom may I know will u release latest build base on Orrange Rom 2.04, the graphic driver on this rom is fastest, UDK using it and when I launch Mapking R12 from udk rom just take 1second to load but our's take 5 second.:(:(
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] shaks1979:
I played with this 2.04 and was not too keen on it to be honest with you. I felt 2.03 worked much better.

What did you do to fix the chinese menu support? Does it need cooking into the next build?

Your message does not really say what the issue is with s2u2

P.S the message you quoted regarding the test build is outdated. The calendar issue is fixed now. I will release a cab but you can fix it with details a few posts up if it affects you.

Regards
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lucasjohny:
No need I'll create a cab for it but need to go now, will post it by tonight, anyway it just need to install on those who need chinese support, If you put it into the ROM, I dont think the HTCMenus fontface will work.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] henk2484:
Isn't this available on xbmod's thread on Rhodium Manila? There's a cab for start menu fix in the first post: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=493531
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] vgopal:
hello all,

has anyone managed to get proper in call recording working on this rom?

(does it even work on diamond)

ive tried and can only get my own voice, and the other speaker leaks to the mic.

not the proper way as on some other phones.

hopefully there is a solution.

thanks.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] jonorb:
The cab you refere to doesn´t solve it. This seems to be a ROM-issue?

I must say in this is the best ROM for Xbmod Rhodium manila I have tested - thanks for your effort Shaks!!!:D It´s just a shame I don´t get the new startmenu to work. Any ideas?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lucasjohny:
HTC Menu CEStar Fix (ChineseSupport)

Hi Shak,

Attached the cab, hope u can release pp changer version soon.

:D:D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] vgopal:
also seem to have found a bug, if it is a bug.

the way read text message are handled.

i used threaded view sms

if i have a threaded sms open and i recieve the text and reply to it then close the message, it will still say its unread.

so i have to open and close the message again for it to dissapear.

previous rom version didnt do this.