[Magisk] Nodens:
I am trying to explain this the entire time but you seem not wanting to examine the argument.

The point is that Google is pushing this as the end-all of security on Android.

Mass adoption by developers, which is what they are trying to achieve by marketing this, literally translates to huge amounts of the software ecosystem having two basic requirements:

A) GMS running on the system.

B) The device running stock, Google certified images. (This has the side-effect of locking owner out of admin access while Google processes run at system level).

So if the majority of the available software requires these two conditions then immediately AOSP is in itself dead.

Because users like their apps and games. And without available software there is no user base. Who would opt in to use AOSP builds if they can't use the apps they require? Imagine Meta, alone, adopting PI. Millions of Instagram/Facebook/Messenger users suddenly can't use their apps on anything but stock, Google certified images.

Can you really not see the problem?

And this is the entire point. Mass adoption of PI by developers, literally translates to indirect lockdown. And they are already using the excuse. "We can't control what developers use". So they shift the blame for the lockdown to app developers.

No I am not. Google has a history of being a bad actor. For example they have tried introducing proprietary protocols which they controlled to the web and they have actively sabotaged other browsers: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/12/the-web-now-belongs-to-google-and-that-should-worry-us-all/

Now that they finally have control of 90% of the entire web since every browser except Firefox and forks is a chromium derivative, they tried to pull this: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/07/googles-web-integrity-api-sounds-like-drm-for-the-web/

They only stopped because the proposal was outrageous (although work on prototyping in chrome had already begun). Notice it is PI.. for the entire web!!!

How about using 1.6million British citizens' medical data to train Deepmind without any authorization or consent whatsoever? https://news.sky.com/story/google-s...s-without-their-knowledge-or-consent-12614525

Is this the company you trust with your security and privacy and you think is so benevolent?

They are a very smart company and they are experts at pretending to be nice and open but their entire agenda and actions speak otherwise. They are the biggest player in the data market and they intend to do whatever it takes to solidify that foothold, specially now that data value has grown exponentially due to advances in ML/ANNs. That is their only agenda. They can yell open all day long but if they market PI for mass market adoption, it proves the exact opposite as the result of such adoption is perfectly clear. Having the audacity to propose and start prototyping the same thing for the entire web? How can anyone in their right mind not see that this is clearly about data control? And in the case of Android, specifically, about solidifying their control of Android running devices and ensuring their software keeps running there with system access by causing an indirect lockdown to their software ecosystem?

Of course. And I am absolutely certain that I am because of all the evidence for and lack of any evidence to the contrary. It is not just about PI. PI is a means to an end. A very specific end. It's about what Google is doing in general. What the company's actual agenda is. And that is contrary to the concepts of openness, security and privacy, despite the pretenses.

Your argument begins and ends with PI being used on GPay and very few apps only. The problem is though that they don't actually keep it there, giving access to max security requiring apps (even that is still wrong, I would give you the argument there). They market it to developers as the end-all security solution for android. They want mass developer adoption of PI. Can you seriously not understand what that means and you try to defend their actions as reasonable?