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[Other SmartWatches] nmajin:
I happened to get the S8 Ultra and the DW89 from Aliexpress. S8 Ultra with 1 GB of RAM is garbage and the UI is horrible to use. The DW89 on the other hand is fantastic and I have been using it as a mini android phone. I am shocked how well it works. It has 4 GB of RAM and is running Android 8.1. I have to install some apps to make landscape work and get extra dimming on the brightness, but it works well for my needs which was just to use YouTube casting.

I would love to hack around with the thing but just like S8 Ultra I cannot unlock the bootloader or figure out how to get access to adb shell for USB debugging. But even then I would not know what I can improve on it. I would love to remove some of the stock garbage apps and ultimately install a custom ROM meant for watches like these but I doubt anyone is really working on this stuff.

Note: The S8 Ultra and DW89 I bought already had the Google Play Store on them. The S8 Ultra I had to restore to factory to actually get it to work for the first time, but yea with the DW89 almost every app I need works amazing on this thing...literally a full Android OS on a watch - this is what I would love to use in the future as opposed to carrying a huge phone/brick in my pocket.
[Other SmartWatches] mhd 12:
well how did u get usb debugging to work ?? well i have some files from another android watch i had ( zeblaze thor 5 pro ) mostly all system apps , tried to install them but well not working since system is not mounted , also if there is anyway to back up the firmware tell me i would do it and post it , tried to contact the sellers still all of them no answer
[Other SmartWatches] mashermack:
There are plenty of solutions, Play Store is full of apps that will create a shortcut to the real Android settings instead of the stock setting apk which is basically a skimmed down version.

This is what I did: search for com.bluedragonfly.developeroptions and download it from your usual third-party apk websites, then connect the watch with the 4-pin usb cable and enable file transfer. On the watch you can use the file explorer to install the APK, once you open the app just set the option to always enable, reconnect the cable and you're in.

You can afterwards run

pm uninstall --user 0 <package name>

inside an adb shell to get rid of the stock stuff. Beware that the default launcher is the only one that provides a power off menu
[Other SmartWatches] mhd 12:
the watch i have is modio ultra max 4g , it have the same specs as dw89 and the others , but noticed there is quiet a change in the firmware , for exemple , when i access notification settings it said not available on this device , tried all the settings shortcut apps , they lead me to the firmware settings app , ( am open if u have suggestion for an app ) when i press the build 7 times nothing just happen , can't get into devellopper options , downloaded the app it says i have to enable developer options , there is a permission on the watch called modify system settings well i don't know what it do
[Other SmartWatches] mashermack:
I get the same warning on the X8.

There is another apk ( I don't remember the name ) which can create for you a shortcut to Developer options. Google around for it, there's two or three, it's just a matter to find the one that works for you.
[Other SmartWatches] mhd 12:
the problem is not developper options shortcut , since i found one , i tried using the shortcut it says developper option is not enabled , i go into settings then down to info , i tap build number even billion times nothing actually happen , i put the watch on the usb it says connected but u can't access files on it
[Other SmartWatches] mhd 12:
well for update , i used 2 apps alliance x device admin and app disabler , and i got to see the system in the watch better , there is two system apps , opened the two , one don't allow u to unlock developper options , the other when u press the build number it takes u to factory testing mode , tried everything in order to get usb debugging to work , couldn't succeed , developper option cannot be opened , i got to get a backup of the two apk for settings app on the device
[Other SmartWatches] fanik:
Friends, my watch is missing vibration.

Do your watches vibrate?
[Other SmartWatches] mhd 12:
Yup hhhh well as i noticed all these watches and brands are created by the same factory , sold from different company , when u deal with the factory u chose the features of the watch noticed that the system is made poorly , mostly the rom is custom one from different devices , most of the rom apps there are two settings one com.android.settings and other com.divo.settings there are a lot of options available on the rom but blocked by the dev , is there anyway i can change the settings app with another one ?
[Other SmartWatches] Kopec69:
I have the DW89 and also purchased the X8 ultra 4g, the X8 is metal, the dw89 is plastic. the x8 feels like a higher quality watch and seems to be the better option. So far the watches function fine, however I am not able to get the 4g cellular working with either t-mobile or ATT. it recognized the SIM, but no service. also, seems to have the right 4g band (Band 2 in my area) has anyone been successful in using the cellular features in the USA? if so, who is provider.
[Other SmartWatches] fanik:
Who has a 4-pin cord, try to see if ADB sees the clock.

In calling type *#*#83781#*#* - you will open Developers menu.

Engineer_Menu - tab Debug&Log - USB Debug (enable) - sclock will be able to connect to pc thrue adb.

To connect sclock with adb
[Other SmartWatches] mhd 12:
There is a menu i was able to access through alliance x app . It gives the possibility to edit the band but u have to find it since i forgot the name of the function all u have to do is to pen alliance x the go for the services of every app and try
[Other SmartWatches] mhd 12:
Thanks i’ll try it i hope it works
[Other SmartWatches] Kopec69:
Thanks for the tip on alliance X, I will try that.
[Other SmartWatches] fanik:
My watch is called Z5

Described by the seller as - S8 Android Google Play 4G SIM Card Smart GPS WIFI

Android version: 8.1.0

Processor: ARMv8 Processor Spreadtrum SC9832e

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I really want to install Android 10
[Other SmartWatches] mhd 12:
The same processor is on all the ultra versions with android as i checked they are all compatible
[Other SmartWatches] Giostack:
Can you send the x8 watch launcher apk?
[Other SmartWatches] Giostack:
Anyone can help me to enable cast option on x8 watch
[Other SmartWatches] mhd 12:
Mee too would love to get that too hhh
[Other SmartWatches] Giostack:
If I get it I will send it you
[Other SmartWatches] mhd 12:
The best way to get it is if another user back it up with alliance x and send it
[Other SmartWatches] mhd 12:
But btw i can send u my launcher for modio 4g uLtra
[Other SmartWatches] Giostack:
I would like to
[Other SmartWatches] mhd 12:
Oki sorry i just saw it now i’ll back up all the apps and send them to u
[Other SmartWatches] Dred65:
this is all very interesting. I'd love to have one. but too scared of Chinese ROM. for those that are using it and can enable adb,

have you tried to find out how to unlock bootloader?

it would be great if then you could flash a gsi, generic android ROM. but I guess we all must be patient.

I feel like the word has to get out to all the devs/tinkeres about these smartwatches.

maybe we can get a lineageos on them or something. 🤷
[Other SmartWatches] miguelman123:
Can y'all help me how to get developer options on DW89 ultra smartwatch. Clicking build number 7 times nothing happens
[Other SmartWatches] Azharkoivila:
I want too
[Other SmartWatches] nilkant999:
Hello everyone, I bought DW88 4g watch. After inserting sim card it shows 4g signal but when I try to call it says mobile network not available! Internet is not working as well.

Is there any solution to these problem?
[Other SmartWatches] Lorenz1969:
Hi everyone, I bought the x8 ultra 4g and I use it with watch droid for notifications from the phone, only with bluetoot does the charge last long enough, I would like to be able to customize it because I think it has a lot of potential but I can't find much by connecting it to adb nowhere firmware I have other material can anyone help me?
[Other SmartWatches] zanderiscool185:
hey, just got the X8 ultra with 4GB of ram, data was hit and miss, had to use quickshortcutmaker v2.5 (V3 on the playstore is BAD)

i opened the com.android.settings app that was hidden, it works great, i just want to root it and do a firmware dump

i currently have the 4pin adapter and its currently connected to my pc

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it seems to login to a "shell" user, no root or anything, but ill see if bootloader will unlock for me
[Other SmartWatches] zanderiscool185:
well it seems it does infact have bootloader access

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well folks, no BL Unlock but we still have access

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[Other SmartWatches] Muxa92:
All I want, it's root my s8, and add notification to another apps

If interest, I public latest universal launcher with many clockskin

I have 4pin, and turn on adb

Also installed alliance shield x, and try open dev option, but no result
[Other SmartWatches] she1don:
TL;DR: This is exactly what I want. I want to replace my default OS with Android OS.

Reading through there thread still trying to piece together a strategy to achieve my objective.

I have a S8 Ultra -- not the Honeycomb edition.

Default OS is some Chinese OS.

I see other similar models have Android OS (8.1?)

- I do not have a camera. I do not care about not having a camera.

- I do not care about not having NFC

- I do not care about not having SIM slot to use watch in lieu of phone

- I do not care really for the "health" apps

Stuck with this S8 Ultra, all I want (🎵 for Christmas ) is Android OS on my watch, stripped down is acceptable. Heck, if I can run Tasker on my watch, I would be sitting pretty.

Advise, please.

Thanks.

P. S. I do have this 4-pin USB cable connector. Does there exist something like this DaFit flasher app that would work instead?

Second, my computer is a MacBook. Doing using a PC is not an option. Alternatives, please?

Thanks.
[Other SmartWatches] imhoteb777:
Hello everyone, I have x8 ultra 4/64, I’m very pleased with the device, but they don’t have a wake-up function when you raise your hand, it’s not very convenient. Please tell me is it possible to solve my problem by installing programs or settings?
[Other SmartWatches] Muxa92:
I use "gravity screen" from Google play. It's free
[Other SmartWatches] Muxa92:
If you say, how backup rom from this watch, I try modding ROM, but I don't know how porting new rom to our watch
[Other SmartWatches] imhoteb777:
Hello, I can't get this program to work, please look at what I'm doing wrong
[Other SmartWatches] Muxa92:
pocket sensor 46. turn screen on monitor is ON, timeout maximum, sensitivity 18. notification is ON. All else turned off
[Other SmartWatches] imhoteb777:
Thank you very much, it works!!!
[Other SmartWatches] Muxa92:
i find dev menu, but it's cut. what a watch? recovery cut out, dev menu cutted. how rooting this watch?
[Other SmartWatches] Lorenz1969:
on devoleper options
[Other SmartWatches] Muxa92:
We have different rom. My dev options empty
[Other SmartWatches] Lorenz1969:
ok I'm not an expert but I would like to give a contribution for the root I have an x8 ultra 4g if anyone can tell me the steps in devolper option I have option bootloader unlock
[Other SmartWatches] zanderiscool185:
If you had of previously read my other posts, bootloader unlocking doesnt exist, it wasnt built into this specific version of android (they chose to opt out and remove that feature to save space)
[Other SmartWatches] zanderiscool185:
doesnt work man, already tried (also X8 ultra) FYI !!!!!!!!!!!! The X8 Ultra 4/128G combo IS NOT LEGIT, its just a spoofed 2/64G model!!!!!!!!
[Other SmartWatches] zanderiscool185:
X8 Ultra Remove Bloat and bring back notifications! And Install Google Assistant!!!!

(ive been a part of the XDA community since 2015, its about time i contribute some more!)

Heres a quick guide i did to bring back an AOSP-ish feeling

Open app.webadb.com

connect your X8/Dw89 whatever watch to PC via USB (you can just copy the files over as well and install them manually, or if you really want to suffer, do everything on device)

install APK, and point your file explorer to the APK's you just downloaded

once its done installing, you can either try and finish the setup on the watch itself, or what i do is use is Scrcpy (lets me control the watch from my PC over ADB) for a more precise setup, without all the frustrations

install:

Nova Launcher (linked below)

Super Status Bar

MaterialShade

Google Assistant Go (REQUIRES GOOGLE CHROME AS THIS VERSION IS A WEBAPP)

i set the gestures in Nova to swipe Left for recents, and right for google assistant go and have proper notifications

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[Other SmartWatches] Muxa92:
I have s8 ultra, not x8
[Other SmartWatches] zanderiscool185:
then ignore what you dont need, this is universal, as long as it runs android, and has adb access, you should be okay, remember, theres no specific forum for these, but since they all run the same OS, it should just work.

that and, i did include the files needed for google assistant. its nice to have
[Other SmartWatches] imhoteb777:
There is a problem, background applications mi launcher and gravity screen close on their own after a couple of hours, in developer mode I set no more than 2 background processes, but this did not help
[Other SmartWatches] Muxa92:
more 4 apps will closing
[Other SmartWatches] Muxa92:
i don't use google assistant, but i have it from box
[Other SmartWatches] fanik:
Hello.

I believe that you have another model of the watch, on which it is impossible to install Android :(
[Other SmartWatches] she1don:
😮🙁

Terrible news.

Thanks.
[Other SmartWatches] zanderiscool185:
yes, that limit is supposed to kill them after a few hours, some roms have an aftermarket memory manager, mine did.
[Other SmartWatches] imhoteb777:
which keyboard should I install for easy typing?

all that I know are too small
[Other SmartWatches] Muxa92:
I use gboard and smart keyboard t9 option
[Other SmartWatches] Lorenz1969:
Hi everyone, I bought a Chinese S9 Ultra 4G smartwatch but I can't activate devopeler options in any way with the create shotcut app. I find the command but it says "please enable devopeler option first" I accept any advice.
[Other SmartWatches] Muxa92:
I think you have problem like me. My rom don't have dev options. Only you have to do, activate usb adb in engeneer menu
[Other SmartWatches] GrossFater:
Greetings to all. Tell me who uses which launcher and how to set up gravity screen on this watch so that the screen turns on with a wave of the hand? X8 ultra 10 android watch
[Other SmartWatches] Yoe1145:
Have you tried removing the battery and then connecting it back？
[Other SmartWatches] Yoe1145:
This is true. In some electronic factories in Shenzhen, anything is possible
[Other SmartWatches] Yoe1145:
try to use this
[Other SmartWatches] she1don:
TL;DR: Launcher suggestions and wallpaper apps for watch?

Update:

Having purchased a S8 ultra, I wanted to see if possible to install a different OS than the default Chinese OS on the watch.

Seeing this was not possible I aborted my efforts.

Returned the watch and received my refund.

Still searching for an American market accessible version, I continued watching various YouTube videos unboxings and reviews of the varying models of the ultra (4g Android) smartwatch. With luck, one reviewer posted the name of the name which I was able to find some variant on Amazon.

My inexperience with AliExpress, Alba, et. al. delimited my trust in ordering from those options. Finding a variant model on Amazon was a risk worth taking.

So close to the Christmas holiday and ordering from a source from outside the United States border, I had expected to receive my watch next week.

Loe and behold, my package arrived yesterday, in time for the New Year, literally.

Next day (today), after a troubling start with sim card, activation, and APN configuring, I now have a working Ultra smart watch running Android 8.1.

Ok, the bad news and my current issue.

Launcher.

The default launcher is terrible, would not even allow changing from the honeycomb display of apps to another format.

Thus far, I downloaded and installed the app Smart Launcher. I am unhappy with it.

According to the Google Play store and a YouTube walkthrough, I can install Nova Launcher BUT for my immediate needs, I want something less complicated. Perhaps later I shall be keen on a changing color on the menu bar but for now I want a menu bar and a way to select what information I have on home screen.

What are your (smart watch) launcher recommendations and wallp

aper apps?

Thanks.
[Other SmartWatches] she1don:
Going by the photo, what launcher are you using?

Or is this a personal customization?
[Other SmartWatches] Yoe1145:
gitee.com/xiaoming237/wear-home-project/tree/master/Apks

try this
[Other SmartWatches] fanik:
NovaLauncher
[Other SmartWatches] imhoteb777:
The touchscreen stopped working, tell me how to reset to factory settings using the buttons?
[Other SmartWatches] imhoteb777:
I reset the device through a Google account, but the touchscreen never worked
[Other SmartWatches] she1don:
I gave Nova Launcher a try.

Almost there!

But one troubling issue -- no status bar above.

I tried every combination of show/hide, transparency, and Dark icons on/off setting but nothing gives me the status bar.

How did you manage?

What are you exact settings?

Thanks.
[Other SmartWatches] fanik:
App & backup Nova Launcher 8.0.8

Google Drive: Sign-in

Access Google Drive with a Google account (for personal use) or Google Workspace account (for business use).

drive.google.com
[Other SmartWatches] she1don:
TL; DR Still no status bar. No notifications either.

Playing around with the watch, I encountered this message. "Notification access" "This feature is not available on this device"

OK

I have Google searched for some clue but most point toward App management in settings. BUT my problem is there is no setting for notifications. Even by individual apps, only a handful, used thus far, already have permission to make notifications.

Further, according to another suggestion, I tweaked the battery settings to remove any limits but nothing has changed. STILL NO status bar.

Curious, for the first time, I am seeing notifications on the locked screen. I enabled showing limited information of notifications on locked screen.

Beyond that, nothing has changed or improved.

I am beginning to suspect the default settings app is bad.
[Other SmartWatches] she1don:
My problem is a missing status bar which might be (or might not be) connected with the "Notification access. This feature is not available on this device" issue.

I downloaded a 3rd party status bar app but attempt at enabling triggered the Notification access issue. So I know how to reproduce the problem.

Re-read this very thread makes me realize I got unlucky in the striped down Android OS lottery by which features were disabled varying between watches. Some were lucky not to have the problem while some of us were not.

In Google searching, I stumbled upon a solution I had implemented for another problem.

I was able to use my Mac to adb my phone to allow Tasker to do something.

https://www.reddit.com/r/tasker/s/Zud3yim4QD

The link to the developer's site shows the video I followed to enable on my phone.

And a StackExchange post points to root as the solution.

So there are two approaches.

adb multiple files associated to any single app I want to use notification

or

root out the problem at its root (pun intended)

Aso in the back of my mind is the idea of installing Android 10, 12, or heck even 14.

Until then, I must find this 4-pin charging cable so that I can connect my watch to my Mac to adb.

Meanwhile, any ideas or suggestions are welcomed
[Other SmartWatches] fanik:
MOD TRANSLATION (from translate.google.com) -- simplepinoi177 FSM

"I have NovaLauncher in my settings

show panel +

transparent panel +

dark - auto"

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В мене в налаштування NovaLauncher

показувати панель +

прозора панель +

темна - авто
[Other SmartWatches] Lorenz1969:
Android go is the problel the watch mount android go version no notication access no solutions
[Other SmartWatches] she1don:
Thanks.

I figured as much, hence my new quest to find the right fitting 4-pin charger & data USB cable. For the life of me, I am having a difficult time finding that 4-pin cable.

I cannot add via wifi as I wish to do. Unless there is some software that does this for one like Tasker did but that too required usb connection.
[Other SmartWatches] Otuics:
Good morning, sorry for the translated English. I purchased an S9 Ultra 64 rom and 4 ram. The device has a custom Android 8.1 version. As many have already said here, this type of Android is full of bugs and above all limitations. My goal is to enter developer mode so I can unlock root and install a clean version of Android 8.1. Many have talked about using the adb program, but having only the charging pins in the cable this does not allow me to transfer the data to the PC but only allows me to recharge it. The device has four pins that form a square. The only device that I believe has the same form of charging is the Fitbit Versa 4. Having said that, do you think it will be enough to have connected the device with this cable and connect it to ADB to be able to install Android cleanly or is it necessary to have unlocked the developer options? I hope that a solution is found, also because there are not few of us who have such a request.View attachment 6051912View attachment 6051913
[Other SmartWatches] Mozhuyi🍥:
Try use a setprop (in ConnectBot or other shell app) command and restart ADB service in Android Settings (Activity Name: DwDevelopSet) to start WiFi ADB

setprop service.adb.tcp.port 5555
[Other SmartWatches] Otuics:
Thanks so much for the reply, I will try immediately. Can the adb connection be made even without developer permissions? Once connected, were you able to install a clean Android ROM?
[Other SmartWatches] she1don:
I am with you.

I am gambling with the Amazon (US market) purchase of such a 4-pin charger & data cable for the Amazon FitBit. I hope it is a fitting (pun intended) size for the watch.

Meanwhile I am have found some workarounds given this is Android OS, so could run apk designed for 8.1 and lower. I found my first workaround with accessing Developer Mode.
[Other SmartWatches] she1don:
Let me read and re-read this post carefully and see if I can do the same.

I am waiting on what I hope is a fitting 4-pin cable for my watch.

Meanwhile, I am searching for full apk, from anywhere e.g. Fdroid, not just Google Play to run apk that can solve issues I face.