yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Honor Magic V2] knives of ice:
yeah, I keep reading different things about it coming out this year or being pushed back till next. nobody really knows

what are the major drawbacks of the V2? From what I can see no wireless charging and not all bands in the US. I'm assuming that the google situation is the same as Xiaomi where you have to manually install the google framework and playstore and there can be notification problems? Xiaomi is easily rooted as well which helps fix these problems so I guess that is a slight problem on V2 as well
[Honor Magic V2] dying4004:
V2 will get Gms soon as Honor will eventually release V2 global version. Where Xiaomi is Chinese only.

I wasn’t aware that you can root Xiaomi’s latest fold. Please double check if you have any plan to buy that.
[Honor Magic V2] wolfgart:
Hello Boys.

Got the device from a week and just submitted Beta form here from Italy.

Waiting ...
[Honor Magic V2] Honored88:
Me too, ordered yesterday, I'm from Italy!
[Honor Magic V2] wolfgart:
Greatest device ever had.

I'm coming from a great device too like Mate 60 Pro but V2 is another Planet...
[Honor Magic V2] Honored88:
I can't wait until I can try mine. Consider that I am coming from a Xiaomi mi 8 (gorgeous smartphone that continues to perform well). I have never been a frequent smartphone user, I just need a durable device that will be with me for 3 or 4 years. I needed a smartphone that is lightweight but has a big screen, replacing the tablet while I am out and about. I think Honor Magic V2, more than any other smartphone currently on the market, meets these needs.

I'm just a bit apprehensive about Google services and haven't quite figured out how to sign up for the beta. As soon as it arrives at home, I will try to learn more about it.
[Honor Magic V2] Omgitsdenis:
How come there's no way to root the HMV2 and put on a GMS ready Rom?
[Honor Magic V2] Honored88:
From what we read everywhere, Honor smartphones do not have an unlockable bootloader. This is mainly the problem in user-side softwares changes and implementations. However, talking to a user outside here, it seems that he is able to exploit a vulnerability (purposely left by Honor in the kernel) to be able to implement Google modules in the OS. But I don't know how reliable this is. If he then explains how to do it I will post here how to do it. First of all, I have to wait for my smartphone to arrive.
[Honor Magic V2] dosto88:
Hello everyone,

I ordered the v2 from Wonda and received it in 3 days, on Sep 8. In order to apply for the GMS beta, I ended up paying for a Chinese number from Esender. Had to submit passport info via their Wechat presence. This way I can get SMS for all the validations that Honor require incl Honor ID.

GMS beta applied for on Sep 11.

Using combination of APKs, Gbox and Gspace, most of my apps work except for Google Pay and Android Auto. Haven't figured out how to pay for Gbox/Gspace yet, to get rid of occas ads. Huawei Pay pops up but no convenient way to use it.
[Honor Magic V2] bandit081551:
I would also like to get it, but I still have a few concerns:

will work with the beta android auto?

all notifications are displayed immediately?

if that were the case it would strike immediately.
[Honor Magic V2] dosto88:
Most of my notifications don't show or are delayed - not an issue for me since the V2 is my backup/plane phone for videos. Don't know about a beta android auto. Google Maps works fine with Gbox.
[Honor Magic V2] knives of ice:
Yes, you can root easily any Xiaomi that I'm aware of including the Fold 3. With root, I see no reason why GMS matters since all the notification issues are solved on Fold 2 with it. It is a hard debate on what to get
[Honor Magic V2] dying4004:
yes, you are correct. i found out that you can root mix fold 3 and have all functionality including android auto, google pay and connect to samsung watch.

for my need mix fold ticks all the boxes.

i will wait 1 more week to see if any user reports android auto functionality on HMV2 with GMS works or not and then place my order
[Honor Magic V2] ChodTheWacko:
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[Honor Magic V2] ChodTheWacko:
As far as I can tell the big drawbacks for the China version are:

1) No GMS out of the box since it's a Chinese phone. GMS beta, if you can sign up for it, may take weeks to get accepted. It's assumed everyone eventually can get it, but that will probably be ... late october (?) at earliest. Many apps seem to work standalone in gbox/gpspace, but I think those that use GMS as a passthrough to work with other apps don't work. So things like Android auto, or things that internally use google maps ( like uber?) don't work. I haven't seen a solid list of popular apps that don't work through gbox/gspace.

I only know of one person who got into the GMS beta - niccolo, in this thread, and he said it works great. Android auto is supposed to work although he couldn't test it.

2) The hinge has a limited range where you can open it to X degrees, and it will stay there on it's own. I think it's roughly 45 to 135 degrees. I see reviewers note the limitation, but I rarely hear a reviewer actually say, "this range is too limiting because I am now unable to do ______ comfortably.". Usually they just open it 10 degrees, and it closes, and they go, "awwwwwww"

3) WHen you open the V2, it apparently disables the 'outside' screen - presumably so you don't get bogus finger taps when you are typing with your thumbs. However, it's STILL disabled even when you are in the camera app, which means you can't control the camera with the outer screen. You have to use the volumne rocker as a shutter button, or hit the shutter on the other side. This feels like it should be easily software correctable. You just need a button to say, "switch to the "closed phone" camera UI when the phone is open".

4) I've seen the occasional posts complaining about overheating slowdowns and/or slow notifications, but it's not a regular complaint so it's a YMMV.

5) Currently, Only a limited set of apps can do horizontal split screen.

6) No wireless charging

============

And as far as I've can tell, that's it.

I've been itching to get a foldable, and the V2 is really the first one that checks almost all my boxes.

I'm looking forward to do a deep dive once I get it.

I've been hoping to see more in depth reviews of the phones by people here - especially lists of things that works well and doesn't work well. I'll do my best to make one.

The mix fold 3 is an interesting option. I did a quick scan of it, and I already see a couple of things I'd lose:

bands 66 and 20, and the ability to resize the vertical windows. The only big attraction for me is wireless charging.

As of now, the V2 checks all my boxes. I should get the phone today, and I'll deep dive into and see what I like/dislike it.

Side note: Looking at the specs for the VS global, i can't really figure out what will be in the V2 global (versus the V2 china + GMS)

EDIT: Fedex didn't even knock on my door and just said, "customer not available". Nice.
[Honor Magic V2] dying4004:
very good post, mate.

if you get GMS for your phone try android auto if you have any possibility to test. thats the only thing is keeping me from getting it.

thanks
[Honor Magic V2] stanleyj:
Best of the best, no regrets!!
[Honor Magic V2] dying4004:
i havent seen any real comparison between HMV2 and Mix Fold 3.

Any one know how they are against each other?
[Honor Magic V2] JoCamel:
I received confirmation to be part of the Beta GMS program. I´ll get the firmware today by push and will report.
[Honor Magic V2] dying4004:
thats great news! enjoy and let us know your thoughts
[Honor Magic V2] sakibaraki:
does anyone's phone connecting to Wi-Fi 7 successfully? Mine's connecting to a Wi-Fi 7 router but is only showing Wi-Fi 6 on the status bar
[Honor Magic V2] Thealshear:
You can't, needs to be installed as a system app and the chinese version doesn't have it.
[Honor Magic V2] iceepyon:
Try updating the firmware on your mobile device or update the firmware on your router. I had a similar issue with my Fold 3 at home, I updated the router and I got WiFi 6 back on it
[Honor Magic V2] ycats:
Got 116 last Thursday, in US on T-Mobile.
[Honor Magic V2] sascha.zindel:
138 out for china
[Honor Magic V2] Hola65:
Finally. Honor Magic V2 Chinese rom working with Samsung galaxy video procedures.
[Honor Magic V2] eyz:
anyone having volte on both sim?

if sim 1 is on call, does it drop sim 2 network?

i have 2 volte sim, sim 1 on call, sim 2 on data.

so scenario 1

1) i made a volte call to the bank with sim 1, sim 2 network dropped

2) bank send authroisation to the banking app

3) as sim 2 network dropped, banking app cannot receive the notification

scenario 2

1) i made a call to the bank with sim 2, sim 1 network dropped

2) bank send authroisation to banking app, but i blur blur didnt log out of the app, notification was not received.

3) bank send sms to sim 1

4) cannot receive sms to sim 1, as the ongoing voice call with sim 2 caused the sim 1 network to drop.

i just realised the moment 1 sim made a call out, the other sim will automatically dropped the network.
[Honor Magic V2] sascha.zindel:
VoLTE is network dependent (other than VoWifi). As soon as you have one VoLTE call on one line, you cannot stay connected to VoLTE on the other line. That is why it is called Dual-SIM Standby .... as the smartphones only have one active receiver-/sending unit.

Far in the past they did have Dual SIM Dual Active smartphones, but the energy consumption was so high that these phones needed to be recharged twice a day at least. Nowadays all smartphones use dual sim Standby technology .... basically it means that in Standby mode the receiver-/sending unit changes very quickly the connections and therefore will be available on both lines in standby, but as soon as you receive an active call only one connection is active and the other offline until you finished your call.
[Honor Magic V2] eyz:
thanks for the explanation, now i learnt something.

so this is a hardware limitation, and the active and standby is the difference. i remembered I was able to use my mate 20x to call from sim 1 to sim 2, so that is and dual active phone.
[Honor Magic V2] pnsdhrn:
Honor Magic V2 Global -Downgrade to Android 13 without rooting...

Any one please educate me how to downgrade the Android 14 in Honor Magic V2 Global to Android 13 without rooting.

Waiting with Thanks.....
[Honor Magic V2] shibadog:
it seems that 2nd beta test notification came today via SMS.

saw posts on MY Honor app's community.

but I didn't get the SMS😭

I submitted with actual chinese phone number...why😭
[Honor Magic V2] marbo2k9:
What did you enter in the registration form? Do you also have a phone number? Unfortunately, I was only able to enter a fake number because a German number has a different format and therefore I don't receive any information via SMS
[Honor Magic V2] ChodTheWacko:
Jocamel, Can you be a saint and tell us exactly what answers you used for each question in the form? (log/nolog, etc)

(Except for serial and phone number obviously) - but please tell phone number syntax (country code + digits)

When you got an sms it sounds like they did NOT send the sms to the phone number in the application. Is that right? They used your actual number instead?
[Honor Magic V2] JoCamel:
I used a chinese number of my chinese Agent. Foreign Numbers are not working. Also not working to register an Honor account, no matter that they offer the possibility. It always stopped with "Security concerns"
[Honor Magic V2] JoCamel:
Hello,

as mentioned before, I used a chinese number, which I used to register the Honor account. The number is a valid number used by a friend.

I signed "nolog".

Text had ben sent to the registered number, I think. Maybe on Wechat, but not to the app.

I also asked my friend to contact the VIP service (which is included in the Magic V2 purchase) by Wechat to confirm. Probably that also helped.

I am still waiting for the rollout, they mentioned it will be done within one day. I more or less patiently wait for it ;-)

btw: Here the original confirmation text:

【荣耀】#荣耀俱乐部#

亲爱的用户，恭喜您成功入选荣耀Magic V2系列先锋体验团活动，目前Google Play服务框架体验版本的微信左右分屏功能正在适配中，计划在后续的版本中适配支持，仅影响折叠屏展开态微信的左右分屏功能，不影响微信正常使用。如果您接受该问题，我们将在1个工作日内给您推送体验版本，请尽快填写如下问卷反馈您的意愿。(Here was a link to a second questionaire)

In the text is a link to another questionaire

荣耀体验先锋团活动意愿反馈问卷

*

请反馈您的手机号码

*

您是否愿意继续参加本次活动

是

否

*

请反馈您的手机SN

拨号盘输入*#06#查询，并复制

荣耀问卷中心提供技术支持
[Honor Magic V2] marbo2k9:
Ok, that's a shame, then I probably won't have any success with my fake Chinese number. I thought it would still work because "Niccolo" said he hadn't provided a number and had received the beta.
[Honor Magic V2] wolfgart:
he doesn't told you all the true... It's impossible that before that field was not mandatory.

Trust of me...
[Honor Magic V2] shibadog:
hi, thank you for sharing the info.

do you know how to contact the VIP service? if i can chat (not calling since i don't speak chinese), id like to try.
[Honor Magic V2] exospacial:
Not that I've used Gbox or others before, but you try Adguard DNS to block ads on your system. That's what I do for non-rooted phones. Blocks almost all ads except in built YouTube ones.

Also someone mentioned in here that someone on Reddit returned it due to lagging in YouTube via Gbox if watching for a long time. You experience that?

Can you also play 2 games split screen at the same time? I'm afraid some games freeze when you go between them.
[Honor Magic V2] JanAltman:
I have sent a query directly to Wonda asking if and when they will start shipping the phone with GMS preinstalled now when it is available (albeit as a beta).

I'm curious to see what their response will be.

My Question to you folks:

Does the price listed on Wonda's website already include duty and VAT or not?

Has anyone ordered a phone from them as a business customer, with a tax deductible invoice?

I'm a freelance VAT payer, so I'd like to not have to pay VAT (or be able to deduct it)
[Honor Magic V2] wolfgart:
Do we have any way to grab two updates that make the job and install locally ?

I make this job usually by using wireshark and download update packages from recovery mode or on stock OS too
[Honor Magic V2] dosto88:
I have not seen any lagging in YouTube or any other app.

Will look into Adguard DNS.

I don't play games on my phone so don't know about split screen.
[Honor Magic V2] dosto88:
1.This was my query to Wonda Mobile Sep 4: I am considering purchasing this phone and wish to know if you would be able to provide the gms patch that Honor appears to be testing now.

Their email response:

Hi,

Actually, you will get it after Huawei's next update (Within September).

As I know, after the next update, Google services can be enabled.

Not sure how accurate this is, especially since he refers to Huawei instead of Honor, or he is still used to Honor as part of Huawei in the past.

2. I only paid about 25$ in fees to DHL for the ultimate edition, so I presume the price alreadyh included duty and HST (shipping to Canada)

I just got an update for MagicOS today but it didn't mention anything about gms service.
[Honor Magic V2] galaxys:
Fyi recent V2 review:

Hands-on: Honor Magic V2 changes the paradigm for foldable phones

The Magic V2 is thinner, lighter, and has a better cover screen than the Galaxy Z Fold 5.

www.androidcentral.com
[Honor Magic V2] Gl88:
Hmm. I'm a little annoyed. I checked the lists of successful candidates for the GMS beta test and realised that I was in fact selected in the first batch. However I never received the GMS update. (Only received the 115 patch 5 update).

I never left a phone number so not sure if that's the reason, but I thought the number was only used for the sms notification.

Guess I just have to wait for the official rollout.
[Honor Magic V2] Katto89:
Oh, there is a list you can see, who gets / got the patch? 😯
[Honor Magic V2] Gl88:
Yes.

Here's the link:

【获奖名单公布】荣耀体验先锋团|第一期活动招募-荣耀俱乐部

【获奖名单公布】荣耀体验先锋团|第一期活动招募

club.hihonor.com

The post is in Chinese, but If you scroll down to the end of the posts you can see the excel files which you can download (different files for each of the phones).
[Honor Magic V2] Gl88:
On another subject, anyone used the private space feature found in the privacy settings? It's really cool and I would recommend checking it out. It's like having a completely different phone set up that you can switch instantly just by using the fingerprint that you registered with.

Flossy carter talks about this feature in his Xiaomi Mix Fold 3 video on YouTube, but the Magicv2 also has this feature. Worth checking out!
[Honor Magic V2] marbo2k9:
Unbelievable, I'm on this list (second batch), but I don't have the update!?

SN is correct, at least what is visible.
[Honor Magic V2] JanAltman:
Watch this before you buy Honor V2:​

YouTube: Honor Magic V2 Honest Review, Truly Disappointed

I saw this video yesterday and it made me a little nervous/uncertain :rolleyes:

I'm going to check how much my mobile operator (T-Mobile Czech) relies on the Band 20, the absence of which is probably the only disadvantage of Xiaomi, right?

Maybe one more difference, if I understood it correctly after reading this discussion:

Magic V2: Will get official Google services support sooner or later

Xiaomi Fold 3: It is possible to unlock the bootloader and root the device, so Google services can be installed. Is this the case and everything works without problems then?

Including Android Auto? I can imagine life without it though. But not without Google Play, Google PAY, Maps, GMail, synchronization and notifications.
[Honor Magic V2] JanAltman:
I think that when goods are imported from China to the EU, the price for the end customer must include duty and VAT.

Either it's already included in the price and the supplier pays it to the EU, or it's not included in the price and the customer has to pay it. I am not aware of any exception.

But in either case, there should be a way for a VAT registered company to either claim back the VAT or not have to pay it at all (and the price should be adequately lower).

Since it's around 20% , it's just worth sorting out.
[Honor Magic V2] dying4004:
this thing is looking good.

all I need is confirmation of android auto working and i ca. finally order one :)
[Honor Magic V2] Niccolo:
New update arrived After GMS beta upgrade. Here the info. News Second Space for private data and apps. Sorry Is in italian :)
[Honor Magic V2] Gl88:
I've had this update a week already but just don't have GMS :(
[Honor Magic V2] dosto88:
How did you get the list for the V2 second batch? When I download the file labelled as V2 second batch, I get the same xls file as for Magic5.
[Honor Magic V2] dosto88:
I contacted customer service via the My Honor app. She said I was on the list but I did not get a text msg on my Chinese number. After some verification, she said she will have someone email me. This is the email I subsequently received:

"Dear honor users

Hello, the registration about your feedback participated in the first phase of the Honor Experience Pioneer Group Pre-installed Google Play service framework activity The problem of not receiving the push has been received, is currently verifying, hard and patient, if you have any other questions, you can directly call the honor consumer service hotline 95030, we will serve you wholeheartedly

If you still have any questions, you can call the Honor service hotline 95030; Or pay attention to the honor WeChat public account [honor customer service], we will serve you wholeheartedly!

Reminder: The information and information collected by email are only used for follow-up and handling of your questions, and are not used for other purposes"

I am not on the list of the first batch since I didn't apply until Sep 11. So I will continue to wait, hopefully in last (3rd) batch.
[Honor Magic V2] FC88:
Me too, I was selected for the first batch but never received the update :(
[Honor Magic V2] dying4004:
mix fold 3 is getting custom global rom.
[Honor Magic V2] raimondomartire:
@wolfgart @Niccolo he is always a sincere boy, no mystery. He've ultimate edition and as you can see no phone number. A lot of guys registered in that moment without phone number. Please no spy story and no flame after my message. I haven't time. Only for love of truth. I hope that also you will receive beta version.

荣耀Magic V2系列nolog
型号	手机号码	SN	荣耀俱乐部昵称或UID

荣耀Magic V2 至臻版	AGRU****3356	iNicc0lo
[Honor Magic V2] raimondomartire:
Here list of magic v2 beta users (xls format)

https://club.hihonor.com/cn/forum.php?mod=attachment&aid=Mjk4MzgyNTh8NjE0ODY0OGV8MTY5NDg2MjY0N3wwfDI3NTkyNjg4
[Honor Magic V2] Niccolo:
Thanks Raimondo :)
[Honor Magic V2] marbo2k9:
The Magic V2 doesn't have band 20 either.
[Honor Magic V2] carlitobahsoun:
what? how do u know? are u asking or telling?
[Honor Magic V2] dying4004:
It’s in the mix fold 2 forum. It’s called elite rom. One person already have it and said it’s global rom without any Chinese stuff in it

https://xdaforums.com/t/xiaomi-mix-fold-3-needs-a-forum.4617659/page-5#post-89009531
[Honor Magic V2] wolfgart:
Guarda chi si rivede.

Il Gatto e la Volpe...

A proposito Pulcinè, come stanno gli amichetti tuoi ?

Baci a tutti
[Honor Magic V2] wolfgart:
This is my corrent FW installed on. 7.2....

Beta FW it seems to be 7.1 instead.

Hope that really this process can supports downgrade too....
[Honor Magic V2] shibadog:
I'm on the list of 2nd beta push, but didn't get any SMS or push.

I've started thinking I didn't get ones because I had updated my V2 to 7.2.0.115.

it seems the beta is before 7.2.0.115...so needs to be downgraded.
[Honor Magic V2] Gl88:
Shouldn't be the case as I was in the 1st batch and never got the update, which was before 115 was available. But at this point I have no clue what the reason could be.
[Honor Magic V2] wolfgart:
me too...

really bad pushing methods from Honor.

Look instead Huawei, they release Beta with the best methods by following always the latest official FW relased !!!!
[Honor Magic V2] Omgitsdenis:
How do I contact the support?

I couldn't find myself on the beta list and wanted to check if I'm on the next batch
[Honor Magic V2] wolfgart:
what's your FW Vers. installed ?
[Honor Magic V2] wolfgart:
dongrade it seems not possibile, lack of FW file and tool ....
[Honor Magic V2] shibadog:
you can contact here via My Honor app 24/7.

they answer in chinese, so i used translation app.

I just contacted the support and they confirmed I'm on the list of 2nd beta.

they don't know why i still dont get push or SMS, so they have their engineer send me e-mail to support.

will update to here when i get more info from them.
[Honor Magic V2] shibadog:
that's sad...i hope their engineers find the way.
[Honor Magic V2] JanAltman:
Are you sure?

I've just consulted the importance of Band 20 and it seems that it's quite important (at least in EU).

Band 20 is LTE @ 800MHz which is crucial to cover the countryside (while big cities are covered by 1800-2100MHz) and the 800MHz band is also imporrant inside buildings as higher frequencies have problem to penetrate into them.

So without Band20 everyone will have problem inside buildings, outside big cities, while traveling.

I wonder how Honor could dare to release a global version without such important feature.

Or will the global version have a different hardware?!
[Honor Magic V2] Omgitsdenis:
7.2.0.115
[Honor Magic V2] JanAltman:
This is a GoogleTranslated answer I've obtained from LTE network experts:
[Honor Magic V2] JanAltman:
According to GSM Arena Magic V2 has Band20 (and Xiaomi Mix Fold 3 has NOT).

So where did you get the info?

Honor Magic V2 specs

Xiaomi MIX Fold 3 specs

Can a real owner of V2 confirm?
[Honor Magic V2] wolfgart:
i can confirm that it has Band 20
[Honor Magic V2] marbo2k9:
I only read on a website that it doesn't have band 20. Unfortunately I don't remember which one it was.

How can I test it if it has that?
[Honor Magic V2] perfecteric:
There is an app on the Playstore. LTE discovery, try that
[Honor Magic V2] marbo2k9:
On Playstore… 😂
[Honor Magic V2] perfecteric:
Or apk pure
[Honor Magic V2] carlitobahsoun:
thanks ......