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[Nothing Phone 2] samual01te:
Mine is A065 GLOBAL VERSION
[Nothing Phone 2] samual01te:
maybe eeu is a bit late to roll up the update?
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
Yea seems to always be that way considering it's meant to be a London based company..
[Nothing Phone 2] Ky0sHiR0:
After few updates how do you perrforming them atm @dladz ?

Using your risky method or full wipe and swift restore?
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
I haven't had an issue although a reset can't hurt.

For me it's been pretty clean and without faults, if there's something amiss then I'll address it, I don't use swift to restore...you're asking for issues tbh...
[Nothing Phone 2] thisislukas:
Just updated to 2.0.3 and took the stock boot image from the backup magisk created.

Link
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
What region ? Im on EEA...it's not our for EEA yet, hence why I've not updated.
[Nothing Phone 2] thisislukas:
EEA (Germany), got the update 2 days ago
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
Via system update? Damn... nothing here in the UK on two phones, that sucks..

That's great you've got it...I'll grab it from you.... guessing it'll roll out at some point..

Crap behaviour from nothing the way they've been doing updates, just give us the full zips and merge the region's...utterly pointless choice to stagger updates the way they have and alter the regions and go with incremental..
[Nothing Phone 2] Ky0sHiR0:
Just realized that I lost wireless charging function after the root/update to 2.0.2a :D Any clue why?

Reverse charging no longer works as well.

Will you update boot .img soon based on upload from @thisislukas soon?
[Nothing Phone 2] thisislukas:
I tested wireless charging on rooted 2.0.2a on friday and it worked perfectly fine. Not sure why yours doesn't
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
I don't have that issue mate, perhaps wipe your phone.. I've done one wipe (not issue based but during tests)

The upload by Lukas is for 2.0.3 not 2.0.2a
[Nothing Phone 2] Ky0sHiR0:
I want to upgrade to 2.0.3 from 2.0.2a perhaps it's my wireless charger because recerve charging started to work.
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
Couldn't say for sure mate...

Regarding 2.0.3 I don't have the update as yet and won't update my thread until I do...

I usually get them first on previous phones, just not on this one...

Feel free to patch the one Lukas uploaded.
[Nothing Phone 2] boontje3:
dladz I just came across this on YouTube​

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can we also do this with our nothing ota files to get the patched boot img from 2.0.3 from the thread here https://xdaforums.com/t/nothing-phone-2-official-ota-zip-full-incremental.4604803/ ? so we can temporaly boot root to instal magisk ?​

or is it better to wait for youre patched ones (EEA) when you get the update in the UK ? im not in a hurry btw Belgium not yet recived it either
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
Well someone posted the boot images few posts up...so you could patch that....as the EEA one hasn't been released yet then we couldn't obtain the payload.bin to extract the boot image, only from a live device.
[Nothing Phone 2] boontje3:
That's exactly what I was wrong about, EEA hasn't been released yet, I'd rather wait until it's released so we can be sure that it will work 100 precent for us
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
Well apparently some have flashed the global version using the 682 offline installer...but personally I haven't, if they released full updates then yea I'd jump right in but there incremental updates could be different and as such I couldn't suggest it and without MSM I don't fancy being a guinea pig..

Got to be next few days surely...it's already out in Germany, just needs to land everywhere else, so slow on nothings part.
[Nothing Phone 2] thisislukas:
The stock boot image I posted is 2.0.3 EEA. I got it via the updater app and not via local OTA.
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
Updater app??

Via system update within settings?
[Nothing Phone 2] thisislukas:
Yes
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
Still nothing here man
[Nothing Phone 2] thisislukas:
I even got a weird System Popup on screen that I should update to the lastest Android version
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
Yea I get that, literally nothing here I'm tempted to just install the global one
[Nothing Phone 2] xtcislove:
I got the update on eu. Im still waiting for EDL and Fastboot roms for eu anyway before i attempt custom roms etc.

Tell us if global is working fine on eu if you try. i dont understand why there are eu and global roms anyway, they unified them on the np1 a year into the release and now we are seperated again on the np2.
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
Theres a thread on TG where some have tried, apparently it has all three regions listed within the update, personally I don't trust it so I'll have to wait.

Again I'm the same I'm dubious about flashing something without a way back...
[Nothing Phone 2] boontje3:
thx yust need to patch it myself within magisk ?

dladz​

iff not mistaken arter97 yust provided a fastboot solution on github iff something go wrong ?
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
That'd be fastboot enhance, but if you end up in crash dump then you're still screwed.
[Nothing Phone 2] boontje3:
ah ok learned something again
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
Fastboot enhance is great, but you're required to get into fastboot to use it, if for whatever reason you're stuck in crash dump, them EDL mode would be your only escape and currently there isn't one, I donated to a crowd fund and it was successful but there was a problem and it doesn't work, there is a QFIL (I think it's QFIL) file out there but we don't have it yet so until then it's squeaky bum time.

In regards to arters fastboot escape plan it works for his ROM which only uses super.img

I actually haven't seen it but I'm assuming it's FE

Edit: have you got a link for the software?
[Nothing Phone 2] boontje3:
https://github.com/arter97/nothing_archive there is also a topic here xda https://xdaforums.com/t/nothing-phone-2-ota-images-archive.4626701/
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
Cheers man, they look like fastboot ROMs...could extract the boot images from them tbh.
[Nothing Phone 2] Antoz1103:
Got the Update today. i will wait for ur new Boot Image then i update and after the update i unlock the Bootloader and make the Root+Unlock Bootloader.

@dladz
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
Just got it now myself.

I'm out ATM but will do the needed once I'm home.

Cheers man View attachment 6001403
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
After all the waiting for this update, it's now failing to install.. fully unrooted... ahh this phone, it certainly has it's moments...
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
https://xdaforums.com/t/failing-to-update-to-2-0-3-from-2-0-2a-eea.4627097/

Can't update my images myself as i can't update my bloody phone, awaiting nothing.
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
OP UPDATED: Have a second device, managed to update this one.

Stock and patched images are in the OP, so so late but they're there.

:(
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
phone bricked, need to send it off.

Top tip, do not flash payload.bin in Fastboot enhnace and reboot to bootloader, you'll be in crashdump before you know it.

:(
[Nothing Phone 2] Antoz1103:
ah fuxxx sry 4 u man......
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
I've ordered the hydra cable, cannot get it into edl mode, already started RMA...

Let's see how they do, can't be any worse than OnePlus.
[Nothing Phone 2] boontje3:
wich one did you order ? can get a link ? seems to be usefull to have it in spare iff something go wrong
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
It may not even work, so I'll let you know tomorrow.

EDL Deep Flash Qualcomm 9008 2-in-1 Cable For Z3x / Octopus https://amzn.eu/d/9ls1RPrView attachment 6001745
[Nothing Phone 2] Kylewolf:
Did you manage to keep root while taking the Ota this time?
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
Nope
[Nothing Phone 2] Ky0sHiR0:
Ahh that's bad :/

In case of update to 2.0.3 should we just follow the instructions and that's all?

After your message about bricked phone I'm little scared :D
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
Yea the issue was unique to myself.

The guides still good, it was just my phone mate..

Uninstall magisk.

Update.

Grab magisk patched image 2.0.3

Or you could try to update with temp unroot, personally haven't been able to do it that way..
[Nothing Phone 2] Antoz1103:
What in my case. I already updated to 2.0.3. Can i follow the Guide to Unlock the Bootloader and Root?
[Nothing Phone 2] HippoMan:
In fooling around with backup and restore, I somehow messed up my 2.0.2a OS, and now I'm in a boot loop. I tried flashing both the standard and patched boot images from the OP, and even though they flashed, my boot loop continued after each try.

Is there some way that I can reflash the factory image and start from scratch again?

PS: to be clear, fastboot works fine for me.
[Nothing Phone 2] HippoMan:
Oh! Never mind!

After bootlooping for something like 30-60 minutes, the bootloader finally gave me a factory reset option. I did the factory reset, and now my Nothing 2 is back up in 2.0.2s.

All's well that ends well!!!
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
Oh you're still bootloader locked?

Yea that process hasn't changed.

Once you've unlocked it, just grab the 2.0.3 patched image from the OP then boot it, follow "rooting by booting"

You'll be good..

Bare in mind that unlocking the bootloader will wipe your phone so back up first, these warnings are in the guide.
[Nothing Phone 2] 1slotrk:
Has anybody had issues updating to 2.0.3?

Restored stock image

installed 2.0.3

re-rooted and now the device says i'm at 2.0.2a and can't run the update any more "installation failed"

I can boot both rooted and stock boot images 2.0.2a and 2.0.3 on slot b

Cannot boot at all with any boot image on slot a

I get an error 20 when using the nothingofflineotaupdate

when trying to sideload i get an error with expecting pongEEU but trying to flash pong
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
Yea this is what happened to me, I flashed a payload using fastboot enhance and it crash dumped my phone...

Unfixable at present so sent it RMA..be careful what steps you take next and do not do what I did.

A factory wipe didn't fix it for me so don't bother with that..

It's possible it's the cow files which can be deleted using fastboot enhance, but I'd be hesitant to do anything at this point.

You're EEA based so there is no remote help.. ideally you need a service center...is there anything like that where you are?

I'll share this post with some of the lads/ Devs on TG and see if they can weigh in.

Someone suggested flashing a firmware using twrp, but I'd like to confirm first.

Don't do anything drastic for now
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
@1slotrk

One of the Devs came back and suggested not doing anything for now, it's been escalated with nothing, it's affecting a lot of people.. so you're not alone..

Not much you can do for now and honestly there isn't much between 2.0.2a and 2.0.3

It's your call but I'd trust what he's saying.
[Nothing Phone 2] Globus.gd:
I am reading what You wrote about bricking..

Maybe there is an option to clone working phone (I mean to make a complete image of memory of working phone and flash it directly to bricked phone)

Cloning SD cards is quite easy, making image od card memory block by block.

Maybe this could be a solution.. Then we won't have differences in slot A or B.

But I have no idea how to get directly to flash memory.

I hope You understand my thinking :)
[Nothing Phone 2] 1slotrk:
I am in the US and don't know why my phone says EEA (Europe????). I am not going anything for the time being. I am happy to wait and see what options I have. BTW thanks for the reply and advice.
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
That would be the MSM tool or nothing flash tool

It's currently being tweaked, as it's not working perfectly, in fact it can cause more problems than it fixes right now..

Only certain region devices work with it and only some of the time, you need to enter EDL mode in order to use it and not all devices want to go into EDL mode, I managed to get mine into it once.. then it wouldn't go again, I bought an EDL cable (hydra) but couldn't be bothered waiting for it so sent my device off for RMA..

In time these things are going to become fixed and working as they should, until then we're on thin ice...

Unlocking the bootloader and rooting is perfectly fine, some mods etc but any kind of flashing could get risky, like fastboot enhance or flash tool.
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
If you're in the US then your phone is more than likely global not EEA (European Economic Area)
[Nothing Phone 2] Ky0sHiR0:
I did following instruction from first post:

Uninstall Magisk

Update

Install to Inactive Slot (After OTA)

Really fast process.

Thanks
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
Oh that worked for you, nice one.

So you temp unrooted ie: restored images
[Nothing Phone 2] 1slotrk:
Figured a way around my issue!

1. Restored stock boot images with Magisk

2. Reboot

3. Clear data from google play store and play store services

4. Reboot

5. OTA started working through the system updater in settings

6. Reboot using the reboot button in the OTA

7. Temp booted the 2.0.3 rooted boot img

8. Rooted using direct installation
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
Still waiting for my device to come back from RMA.

Sent a week ago yesterday..

Times its taken other devices to come back, including transit.

Sony z1 - 3 days

OnePlus 5 - 5 days

OnePlus 10 pro - 6 days

Nothing 2 - 8 days and counting.

All you'll see when you check the status is

"in progress"

If they miss the post today then it'll be Wednesday next week, which is approaching 2 weeks, that is blackberry time scales..

Appalling.

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[Nothing Phone 2] HippoMan:
So far, when waiting for your Nothing 2, you're getting "nothing, too". :) :)
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
I'm experiencing the nothing experience, I've never felt like I've had so much of nothing before.. 😂

You RMA your device, anticipate over a week being without your phone in the UK, they are shocking, so little tech knowledge in their dept, they don't listen and work from a script, I clearly said that I have a device stuck in crash dump mode, they went ahead and asked me to jump into settings and factory reset..

Ahhhh,

I can't do it again so just going to leave them to it... Complaining clearly doesn't help..
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
Oh look an update.

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[Nothing Phone 2] HippoMan:
Is that *their* drawing?

If so, it's "we empathize with your frustration about having to wait so long ... but we still are not moving very quickly with this."

:)
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
If it was I'd give them some respect, but nah it's mine 😂

Honestly at this point, I've lost all hope for a Monday delivery... It's looking Wednesday at the earliest... Trying so much to like their company but they're not helping their cause...

First red flag was the free gift for pre ordering.

A tote bag!

OnePlus gave me £150 headphones..

HTC have me beats headphones and two cases, I'd have been happy with a cap, but a tote bag... Cmon Mr Pei.

Now EDL mode is like a myth, you need a cable to get into it and not the one I bought but the V2 version.. now RMA being a shambles... It's a pretty broken system if I'm being honest.. they're definitely not reinventing the wheel here.
[Nothing Phone 2] HippoMan:
Just out of curiosity ...

I'm not familiar with the use of EDL. If I get my device into crash dump mode and have such an EDL v2 cable, how would I use that cable to get my device out of crash dump mode?

In other words, once I get the device to boot into EDL mode, then what's next? Is there a way to flash a ROM when in EDL? Or are there one or more other things I would need to do?

Thank you!
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
Generally speaking if you have been flashing things and having a tinker you'll usually be ok if you can get to recovery or fastboot, you have an avenue out...

But on the occasion that you can't and you're in what's known as crashdump mode, then you'd usually try one of a few things.

1. Force a power down by holding all buttons then hold vol up and down whilst connected to a laptop/pc, the screen won't come on but you'll hear a ding and your device manager ( if you've installed the 9008 driver) will show a device in 9008 under ports I believe, from there you can use the nothing flash tool which is basically a modded version of Qualcomms flashtool (QFIL)

From there you just click flash and you're back at 100% stock, your bootloader will be relocked and it'll be like a new phone, nothing like a factory reset, this is total.

2. If the button combination doesn't work, then you can use a cable with a button on it to invoke EDL mode, v1 I have (untested) but others have said that V2 works and will get you into EDL mode.

From there you just just click flash etc etc.

3. Open your phone and use the test points, afaik no one knows where they are just yet so that's not an option.

4. RMA like me, because nothing worked.

I chose the RMA method because I stupidly thought that it wasn't going to work and nothing being a new company would be fast in returning my device..

The nothing flash tool itself has an NTFI file (I think it's NTFI) which houses the phones software, however the ones we've tested don't actually work yet (v 715 iirc).

A newer version of the flash tool firmware is out there but we don't have it yet, eventually someone will "acquire it" and we'll be ok, but until then if you find yourself in CD mode then I would say with some certainty that you'll need to RMA your device.

Edit: whilst your phone is operational you could actually put it in to EDL mode by running through option 1... It'll 100% work, however I think if you're stuck in CD mode then the bootloader is having problems bringing you out so it doesn't work..

I managed to get into EDL once by luck when I was in CD mode then I just gave up when I couldn't again.
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
I think the v2.0 hydra cable is this one.

Could be wrong though, I got the v1 version off Amazon... £4

Hydra Tool v2 EDL Cable

Hydra Tool v2 EDL Cable - This cable allows you to reboot your device in EDL Mode. No need to use testpoints or pass server authentication. Intended for Qualcomm devices with USB Type-C charging ports.

multi-com.eu

This one from TG.

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[Nothing Phone 2] HippoMan:
Thank you for this detailed and very helpful explanation!

I never knowingly installed the "9008 driver", and I don't even know what that is.

I've ordered a v2 EDL cable now, just in case I might need it in the future.

I hope that "nothing" turns into "something" for you and that you get your phone back soon!
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
Here's the driver.

Really hope they fix their bootloader issues and release full kernel sources.

Time will tell I guess.
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
Personally I rooted day one, so I had nothing to back up...

Whilst rooted I'd use swift back up..

If I wasn't, then I'd just do pics, vids and contacts and start afresh..

You won't get app data anyway without root afaik so little point to it.
[Nothing Phone 2] sqtytyp:
So my thought process for using it first is that i expect increased frequency of patches from Nothing, so i think to wait a bit till it calms down.

The real reason is that i don't really remember the process for doing OTA updates while rooted, so it seems cumbersome.

Could You please explain how to do it while preserving Your data with ex. swift backup?
[Nothing Phone 2] ffejy462:
" therealashish​

Can I ask you for the the steps on how to install the 2.63 mb update and still keep the root?"

This is the correct procedure to update incrementally and keep root.

Uninstall magisk (restore images)

Download and install.

Don't reboot.

Install magisk on inactive slot after ota.

Reboot

For a relatively small update, it seemed to take a while during installation and "optimization".
[Nothing Phone 2] therealashish:
I'll try the steps post office today.

Thanks.

Just wondering, would the update not be installed (or the device wouldn't boot) if the stock boot image is not restored?
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
I just did this and it bootlooped.

1. Open Magisk and select "Uninstall Magisk" then select "Restore Images"

2. Open settings / system / Software update and download the incremental update (will be substantially smaller than a full zip)

3. Once completed you'll see "Restart Now" do not click this, back up and then re-open Magisk.

4. Within Magisk, click "Install" then click "Install to Inactive Slot (After OTA)" Then click "Lets Go" your device will now reboot
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
OP UPDATED: v2.0.1a stock and patched images uploaded.

Also wrote a small guide based on a few users suggestions but ran into some issues when updating whilst retaining root, device failed to boot until it changed slots and the update failed.

Restored Magisk images then rebooted, then took the update.

Then re-rooted.

That did indeed work.
[Nothing Phone 2] TheNewHEROBRINE:
The update would not be installed.

I've no idea why it would have failed to boot from the new slot. Perhaps there is no way to keep root while updating this time?
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
Not sure, I did what ive written above to the letter.

Doesn't matter now..I just need to grab full zips regardless of how it is done ..tired of this incremental crap.
[Nothing Phone 2] ffejy462:
Strange. The steps I listed are the exact ones I used.
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
I'll give it another shot next time it updates..

Have a look at what I did, see if there's anything you did differently..I don't think there is.

I did leave my Magisk modules, didn't touch them.. I doubt that could have caused anything though.
[Nothing Phone 2] xtcislove:
okay im not alone on this. Tried to do ota like on other roms but ota fails if you install patched boot before reboot, there is already a error message in the system updater before you reboot.

Its not a big thing for me since i only update if im at home and something goes wrong.

We need to manually reroot i guess. I hope nothing starts to push full update zips like google, always felt better to install the full update with all partitions.
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
Yep I agree and glad it's not just me... It has seemingly worked for the above chap, do you think it's anything to do with Magisk modules? Would disabling them and systemless perhaps have any baring on the error?

Definitely would like full zips.
[Nothing Phone 2] xtcislove:
Maybe I did not try. I left my 2 modules (safety net fix, systemloss hosts) untouched too.
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
Could be that... I'll attempt to remove them next time.. Can't think what else it could be
[Nothing Phone 2] Ma3str0:
Can someone who is rooted figure out how to use usb c video out. It's not locked in the hardware only on software end
[Nothing Phone 2] ffejy462:
When you uninstall magisk, the modules are supposed to be uninstalled automatically as well. If you're using an alternative version of magisk or xposed (or whatever it's called nowadays), you're kinda expecting some issues.

I'm using the same procedure as I am with OnePlus 9 pro that only sees incremental updates.

I do know if you alter any partitions, then try a incremental update, it will fail. In that case you'd need the full update or reflash last full zip, then incremental update.
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
Lots of people rooted mate including myself, but this thread is not the place to talk about it
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
I use 26.1 which is the stable version of Magisk, no xposed nor weird modules.

Besides the attached I'm 100% stock, just rooted.

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[Nothing Phone 2] ffejy462:
Huh. Strange. Any chance it might be substratum? I haven't used that in years.... Otherwise you did what I did.
[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
Not sure man, it was disabled after I rebooted the first time.

I'll disable everything next time.

I hope it does work because it would save a bunch of time
[Nothing Phone 2] ysco:
I ordered a few days back this one HYDRA V2 EDL PRO cable. On AliExpress for €11

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[Nothing Phone 2] dlads:
Sweet, let's hope you never need it.
[Nothing Phone 2] ysco:
Well I just ordered just in case I need it sometime. Hope indeed that I never need it 😅.

Hope your phone will arrive soon mate so that you can flash it again and hope you don't brick it again 😂. Have a good weekend mate.