yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] crashDebug:
im not kwbr ofc but i guess i can answer in his place. rhodium port is a rom that is as close to stock as possible (so no major tweaks customisations etc) to the touch pro2 (aka rhodium) one. almost all packages come from that rom so when you flash it you get what a rhodium user finds on first boot of the phone. Same for topaz, which is the codename for htc diamond2, topix is a fully tweaked warpspeed rocksolid rom which may feature packages from different roms (topaz rhodium blackstone and maybe some leo). about what is the best rom, well, the blackstone stock rom wasnt that great if you remember aint it... so i'd venture that topix is the way to go
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] clotet_htc:
THANKS!! :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwbr:
Fine with me sds.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] clotet_htc:
excuse me kwbr, regarding the wm6.5 beta, I get to yoir profile when following the link, instead of the download/discussion thread...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwbr:
Thx crashDebug.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sonydesouza:
Cool !!! Gonna flash it !!! Thanks a lot :cool:

Feedback soon !

See ya ! :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] stokesie:
wm6.5 topix

just flashed beta 2 & configured my exchange for active sync all seems good

only way I can tell its wm6.5 is by pressin start (well impressed so far)

is total commander in there have i missed it

any chance of action screen in next release?

plz dont add my location for fron screen (maybe as seperate cab for people who like)

also any chance of beein able to diable manilla programs tab as wm6.5 start menu is nice enough.

one more. in start programs maybe apps could be organized like in previos wm6.1 topix releases

lovin your work:D

ps

sorry if in wrong thread
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hmillhouse:
Does anyone else find this rom (3.1.1 and 3.1.2) automatically connecting to the net by itself?

Weather is not set to automatically update. I've got some software installed, but the same apps I've had on every rom I've used.

This background connection doesn't obey the 30sec 'not in use' setting from HD tweak either. Bit of a PITA!

Cheers
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] michoob:
@hmillhouse: have you checked your Facebook, or Twitter settings? You must have some app which connects by itself. I don't have such an issue.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Hordo:
Using the beta, so far so good. Except for the obvious input errors. Keyboard at the moment is a little bit more sluggish then on previous versions.

Will report more in the afternoon.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hmillhouse:
Good catch, might be the facebook tab in All People.. Would be good if it auto disconnected as per the HD tweak settings though!

Thanks :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Immorak:
Bluetooth Headset

Hello, iam a big fan or your ROMS.

But i cant connect a bluetooth headset, Bluetooth just doesnt recognize the headset. is this a known problem for this ROM, or can it be my Radio ROM?

Iam using Topix 3.1.2

Thanx in advance
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sonydesouza:
Hello Guys,

Any screen for Topix WM 6.5 ??? :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lazy79:
i agree, winmob 6.5 seems a little bit slower all the time. especially comepared to wm 6.1 topix roms ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Immorak:
I already fixed my bluetooth headset problem, i did something wrong.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Hordo:
Hope the dutch language will be added to the dictionary.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] stokesie:
I see beta2 has dissapeared from front page & download site.

is this due to any issues or is new release iminent?

have been using for a day now & only noticed that its a bit slower than topix wm6.1.

otherwise all good
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] stokesie:
REQUEST future topix releases

as probly quite alot of people use bluetooth headphones thus audioboost is redundant, how about cooking in SRS_WOW_HD(wm6.1 topix) instead with shorcut in manilla music menu for audio boost pointing to SRS_WOW_HD instead.

also (might of mentioned before) action screen & background for all tabs.

i use the above 3 cabs always & never have any issues.

ps

please keep manilla 2.1 without weather

cheers
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lazy79:
sounds like a really good idea - i like srs wow a lot
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ASK768:
go to settings tab - customise tabs and then uncheck the applications tab. manilla will restart and you're good to go
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
I'm using Topix 3.1.2 with my BT headset without problems! Although I've noticed that my HD always takes a few attempts to connect to the headset - no matter what ROM I'm using!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] crashDebug:
it's not really a headset but... my parrot mki9200 works flawlessly with HD + topix 3.1. I used to have 2.7 wich didn't really work. as soon as I started a phone conversation, the bluetooth connection dropped. now (and to date), no problems at all and connection happens almost instantly
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] stokesie:
thanks

already did it

strange thing is that first time I cutomised there was no tick box for programs.

after soft reset it appeared.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ahbao:
hey kwbr, have tried your beta2, still one of the fastest 6.5 rom. I am not sure if this happen to you

1. when there is incoming call, the phone dialer screen did not show up (probably in the background?) But when I answer the call using call answering button below the screen, the phone dialer screen shows up immediately

2. when I press "menu" under the phone dialer, nothing shows up

3. Photo viewer always in landscape mode?

thanks!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ahbao:
A soft reset fixed the 1 and 2 problem. I notice this happen when the HTC menus are changed back to the default wm6.5 menu. not sure what has affected the changes
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] James62370:
Please incorporate the following A2DP Bluetooth Fix for AVRCP control from the link below if possible... This is suppose to fix the windows media player opening when using bluetooth headset controls...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=568142&page=6

Apparently the solution is for chefs and not end users...

Thank you very much for your hard work!

Edit:

According to Laurentius26... the above fix only works on earlier Manila 1919 versions but not on the latest 1920 :(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] X3Mdesign:
u can also include the famous action menu.

great rom. uber fast.

BTW : i can't remove the programs tab. not even after a reboot, not even after rearranging tab and the rebooting.

help.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwbr:
I used to use SRS WOW also on my Elf and had problems with that on newer roms so abandoned it. Happy to hear it is working on blackstone. Can you provide the cabs?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwbr:
I think we got a spambot :) Why are you posting this question in ALL rom threads? Topix doesn't even use manila sense!?

[Edit] By the way, you can create a cab from the first solution. You probably also can copy the files to \windows when you shutdown manila first and after that add the regkey. The second needs to be cooked into the rom because these are drivers.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Possible:
Can anyone post a download link of the WM 6.5 Topix beta rom? In the download link (first page), i only see the 6.1 rom. Everyone is talking about a beta2 6.5 rom, but i dont see any download links?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jakari:
New 3.1.2 review on HD Benchmark for you Kweb :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] clotet_htc:
where is that?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] stokesie:
Srs wow hd

heres the cab I use om wm6.1 topix

on your wm6.5 topix it doesnt work.

seems to over ride volume up down function

maybe you know what the problem is?

also been using dusk action screen which works ok (attached)

my apologise kwbr & fellow members for leading you astray regarding SRS_WOW_HD info for wm6.5.

I have edited my original post http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4865701&postcount=4646 & said ten hail marys
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
In jakari's signature you'll find a link!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] clotet_htc:
UPS... :o

THKS!! :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cimbom:
İs there htc albÜm facebook upload cab İn topİx rom
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
You're very welcome!

You have no idea how many times I've searched for a link on a page where it was posted in bright red letters about THIS big and I didn't see it! ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] DeeSeven:
Hello kwbr, when can we try the wm 6.5 version?

When do you think release it?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] skyli91:
I'm using SRSWOW too on my HD. First i tried the newest but i think that one is not for blackstone becouse the sound gone with that. But with an other one, it's working again :)

For me it's louder and has an amazing bass with TruBass on maximum :D I've got an AKG K340 :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] stokesie:
couple of questions

1, what`s your current topix wm6.1 or wm6.5

2, what ver SRS_WOW_HD you using

so if answer to Q1 is wm6.5 please can u post the SRS cab

cheers;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MeYaMoOo:
Please kwbr waiting for the new rom ?? When do you think release it ?:confused:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] stokesie:
I totally agree boba

HD should be touch_flo & wm6.1 for speed and stability.

anthing else just slows it down

just look at benchmarks for evidance
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
+1

Although 6.5 itself is not THAT much slower than 6.1, it's mainly Manila 2.5 that's unbearably slow - which is why I'm using Kwbr's 6.5 beta! It has the perfect combination: 6.5 + Manila 2.1! :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ancola66:
+1 Me too :) Because Manila 2.5 too dense information ( Clock, Weather, Time, Calendar ,shortcut Programs favorites...) on home screen :(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] crashDebug:
i second this.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ASK768:
the main thing in my experiences is the universally implemented kinetic scrolling engine. thats about it. i guess you could say the windows marketplace but all the aps i use are still all from this site and you can get a .cab for the marketplace for wm6.1 so that may or may not be an issue.

i try 6.5 ROMs every now and then but i always come back to 6.1 because of the speed and fluidity in general
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] demo1987:
The other +side I see, but maybe that is only for Manila 2.5, are the Twitter and Footprints tab. But as I said, maybe it's just for Manila 2.5
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] barisahmet:
I will stuck on WinMo 6.1 even if kwbr continues with 6.5. There's noticeable smoothness and battery usage difference between them. Still cant understand why winmo 6.5. There was only manila 2.1 and winmo 6.1 when the blackstone is out. You can't use windows 7 with a mmx 166 PC. If you want, you have to buy new one. I am happy with my smooth 6.1 rom powered by kwbr :p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] liugwl:
Your 3.0.2 is Very nice ROM too,WELL DONE!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miguel.netreg:
WinMo 6.5 with Sense 2.1

Topix 3.1.2 is my all time favorite, however, just tried Dutty's WinMo 6.5 with Sense 2.1 (HGR0) - not a bad combination either I must admit!!!..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lansparty:
I honestly think kwbr can cook a 6.5 rom that actually runs as smooth as 6.1.

I don't think it's that big of an architectural change, it's the new htc sense that just isn't suited for the blackstone. If you want something else instead of the old manila just try SPB mobile shell, trust me, you won't regret it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ComPas-V:
6.1, 6.5 and SPB Mobile shell

The 6.5 feels much heavier than 6.1. Both from the chief , but one is vanilla (6.5) and second one is topix. Response time .... the Sense is quick, but when you are opening additional programs the 6.5 ROM just freeze. 6.1 better , but not much. I do not think that it's ROM or device specific problem. It's windows and there is nothing to do about it.

The SPB is nice , but one thing is missing - music player. SPB shell use WM player and it eats all available resources. LOL... WM music in background... and nothing else can run on the device (and its HD with huge RAM comparing to other devices).

Thinking about going back to iPhone - specially since normal gps software is available.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] demo1987:
I agree with boba. I think it is a hardware issue why Wm6.5 with Manila 2.5 doesn't work as smoothly on the Blackstone as it does on the HD2. The only thing I would like is a smooth HTC Sense Manila...:P
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jeanfrederic:
WAT?

Have you ever tried not to launch Sense? WM6.5 is supposed to have some memory enhancements compared to 6.1.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ComPas-V:
LOL

Originally the answer was for "it's the new htc sense that just isn't suited for the blackstone"

What I mean , that there are some "minimum" requirements for each software.

More memory -> higher speed it's to simple formula. It's work , but ... there is optimization which should take place in programming .

The "windows" way : less optimization - more hardware. Try to install the memory monitor (Panosha) , disable manila and run windows media player . The memory usage will jump from 25% (75% free) to 80% (20% free). In seconds!!!!! Does the WMP REALLY needs this amount ? Reset , enable manila run WMP. Same picture. ALL available memory will be taken. And that's , my friends, is the windows way. The HTC envelope optimized some how , but memory management still depend on the kernel ,- means operating system.

And yes , the HTC sense would run on PC and Android would not run on HD or even HD2 - and this will be pure hardware problem.

Cheers ;)

Cheers.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ComPas-V:
Yes ...

I totally agree - WM6.5 is supposed to have some memory enhancements compared to 6.1.

Didn't you think that the "enhancement" still doesn't help on old devices such as HD. And memory usage in 6.5 ROM always much higher than on 6.1 ones?

And yes, I did launch Sense on both 6.1 and 6.5. Try topix and vanilla. See yourself. And there was a 6.1 ROM with Manilla 6.5 which was much quicker than latest optimized 6.5 ROMs.

Cheers
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sunstorage:
Actually yes. WMP maybe relay needs that memory because if it read the mp3 into the RAM the Storage Card can be powered off (and keep the battery). So the WMP is not a good example.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ComPas-V:
offtopic

We are off topic.

The WMP - just an example. More visual. Try Core player, which BTW reads flac files. Normal memory usage. Memory handling (usage, cleaning, handling) is the programming basics.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jeanfrederic:
Actually, I don't know. 6.5 is supposed to be better, faster... than 6.1, but as you say, i 've never seen a 6.5 quicker than a 6.1. I tried many 6.5 and 6.1, with and without Manila, Sens or other ****. What i know and what i see is Topix is generally faster than other 6.1 (except for a Laurentius one that i don't totally like). So, maybe, as for 6.1, KWBR could cook this windows to make it quick and stable (and if he takes off all those stupid heavy cosmetic **** that Sense brings, it could be -maybe- even quicker)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] crashDebug:
not to be rude or something but i fear we are off topic since a couple pages
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] demo1987:
I agree, Topix is still a WM6.1 ROM and not a WM6.5 ROM.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Protongti:
Got my Touch HD today and already flashed this rom, very happy :). Much better than stock rom, however one little annoyance that i can't update my hotmail account when connected to my wireless network. It tries to connect to GPRS/ect but since i'm on pay&go it's eating up my credit. All other things like wheather, internet etc work fine.

I really like this rom, big up to kwbr

Sorry if this problem has already been asked before!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vassie:
bluetooth activesync windows 7 64bit

Hey all,

Just restored all the damage I did with a faulty cab file for other xt9 languages, and with the reg edits earlier in this topic got it to work fine. tnx

Next challenge is setting up a bluetooth connection with my pc. For activesync, but mainly because i want remote control of my pc (i'm feeling a bit under the weather and I don't want to leave my bed to start the next movie!)

Kwabbernoot already gave me the hint earlier to enable Beam (tnx!), but that did not fix it yet. On the fora i just stumble upon connection problems to car audio sets so far, not activesync issues. Any pointers on where to look?

Some background:

Bluetooth Stack for Windows by Toshiba (v6.00.11)

Windows 7 64x Build 7100

Topix 3.1.2

Anything else relevant? Cant set up a virtual com port, it does discover one another however, but doens't really seem to connect...

Would be great if someone has an idea! Thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jeanfrederic:
I have +/- the same config. I noticed that if i did not erase all former settings from Seven, it worked one time out of five.

From now, when i flash my HD, I always erase everithing from my desktop first.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] iandg:
This is a great rom as it has all I use and still leaves lots of memory for other things. I have a strange problem in that when I try to use the camera it comes up with a out of memory error. When I say yes to close other programs there are no other programs running. If I say no to close other programs the camera closes. I have disabled Touch flo and use SPB shell 3.5
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
A smooth and stable 6.5 M2.5 Rom

My new Touch HD2 will be shipped on the 11th! I can't wait! However, to sell my touch hd and get the best value, I have installed (and used for 3 weeks) the XT Grid Rom 1.9c.

This is the best M2.5 rom out there! The HTC messaging really takes a toll on speed. I have used others with HTC messaging, but they are very slow! I am currently using the XT Grid Rom 1.9c (without HTC messaging). It's very fast and responsive. I do recommend also the Maryone M2.5 Rom with HTC messaging (it isnt quite as organized (start menu) and icons arent as good as XT Rom).

I was beginning to believe that the M2.5 roms were not gonna work with the Touch HD, but these 2 changed my mind. They are taxed by the 500mhz as opposed to the 1Ghz, but both prove to be fast, reliable and stable Roms for the Touch HD.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ancola66:
Why are you to bicker that Manila 2.1 or Manila2.5? We recommend Kwbr to make 2 versions WM6.5 with manila2.1 and manila2.5 :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] crashDebug:
i know it's a stupid thing but it might come unnoticed. did you enable bluetooth connection on wmdc connection settings? also are both the devices (blackstone and pc) discoverable? you might as well, if you aren't bothered by security, disable security check (that stupid 4 digits passcode) both on pc and phone. I do this way and it always connects flawlessly (but it did with password check, too).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ASK768:
if youre using topix, go to the settings tab in touchflow, then go all settings, then on the last tab, click on "no data". in the program, you can disable GPRS (it only comes back after hard reset or if you enable it). then you can use wifi for mail and everything else.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vassie:
not stupid at all, because I might very well be overlooking something very basic. Nothing you mentioned though; I tried with security check disabled and both are set as discoverable (and bluetooth turned on).

What settings from 7 do you mean? The sync partnerships?

Didn't get it to work yet. I suspect the Toshiba bluetooth stack; when I make a new bt connection (pairing), a can only choose two services: dialup networking and Network Access Point. Should I not be able to make a serial port connection or something the like? Does it sound likely to be the problem?

Therefore (?) Activesync on my blackstone says it cannot find an existing bt partnership with a pc that supports activesync.

On any level, thanks Jeanfrederic and crashdebug for the feedback so far!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] alcheng:
Hello,

When I'm using Opera, the search bar under the web-address bar does not work, anyone experience the same problem??

thank you
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MeYaMoOo:
Hi kwbr long time offline :confused: ... waiting for new rom :rolleyes:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] crashDebug:
another stupid idea: do you really need toshiba's bluetooth stack?

I mean i dont know which dongle you have or integrated hardware of any sort but all my bluetooth PC peripherals just work with the default drivers from xp sp2 to win7...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] imUncleBill:
Me 2. Looking forward to his great ROM.

But be patient.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] demo1987:
I think he is busy with his first WM6.5 rom. I am using his 3.1.2 WM6.1 Rom right now and it is the most stable version I have seen, and I have tried a lot including Dutty. I am hoping he can make a fast and stable version of a WM6.5 rom, although everybody keeps saying it won't be as fast as a WM6.1 Rom.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] barisahmet:
just back from 6.5 version of kwbrs. all can i say is, playing media over wifi with pocket player plus udp connection to remote pc over 3g and surfing with opera mobile on winmo 6.1 and still smoother than all programs closed winmo 6.5. and no heat at all. and lower memory usage..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] DeeSeven:
Is it possible to download that version of WM 6.5? I want to try it but I didn't find the download link :(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] !me:
gps

any one else had issues with activating gps?

Seems pretty sweet apart from that (and that's probably just me :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] barisahmet:
Working fine with me on IGO.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=578338
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] DeeSeven:
Thanks a lot :cool:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] supernova2:
little bug?

auto screen rotation in g-sensor settings seems not to work. i can't get the screen to tilt by itself . any clue? ty
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] KayK:
IINM, kwbr sets the auto rotation in a few apps only, such as opera...you need to manually add those programs that you want to auto rotate...

You can try refer to this post: AutoRotation

Edit:

there are two new updates for official Touch HD ROM, one is notification while another is related office mobile, so i was wondering if anyone has installed?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lazy79:
the two new updates are not compatible.. that`s what my blackstone with topix says ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] KayK:
same here, i tried to install when i got home but come out with the same result...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Abandoned-Trolley:
Still loving 3.1.2

However, I can't seem to remember, was there ever a working version with the nicer Manilla bar and weather that didn't have the SMS bug with the old messages being shown in the wrong order? If not kwbr is there any chance of releasing such a version?

I realise you are busy on the 6.5 ROM's now, but really do prefer the whole structure of 6.1 and think with the coloured icons and weather this would be pretty much perfect for what I am looking for :)