yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] spud_work:
Is it possible to get the HTC keyboard from Manilla 2.5 roms to work on this rom, as that is the only thing i prefer about the more recent releases from HTC.

If it is possible, does anyone have a cab for it?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] khanem:
is there a cab to make the program tab displays 4 columns instead of 3 ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Niksie:
This one is working with the Topaz version:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3601616&postcount=2436

Use this: Showaco All_Programsv4.1_4ICON.cab then reset.

Let me know how i turns out......
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] khanem:
It worked but icons overlapped so it needs some fixing. had to removed it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vassie:
crashDebug, that did the trick! When I installed W7, the right BT driver was not available in Windows, so I installed one provided by my manufacturer (the Toshiba driver). I removed it, and the windows one is working fine now. Should have thought of trying that myself!

Thanks!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vassie:
remote control

Mobile Witch Remote control doesn't want to connect yet, but that might also be incompatible with the blackstone to begin with. So before investing a lot of time in figuring that out, maybe somebody can give me advise on a piece of bluetooth remote control software that works well with blackstone/topix? I'd like to control music and movie on my desktop with my phone.

Any pointers? thanks!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] crashDebug:
np mate, cant help on this tho
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Zakraket:
I really like Topix, I've tried Dutty's wm6.5 Manilla 2.5 and ROMS like that but the HD is just not fast enough for these things. So I'm back to Topix, the best so far for me.

Only dissapointment is that - like in every other mod - the wallpapers only show on the frontpage. I've tried numerous ways of trying to get wallpapers on other pages but so far no luck.

Does anybody have a working method of getting wallpapers on every page specifically in Topix-roms?

Such a shame that HTC didn't make this default...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigGiantFish:
Zakraket

I use HDWallS, I havn't tried the latest release but the old v0.25 worked without fault on the last few topix releases. Hopes this helps.

BGF
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] imUncleBill:
How I wish I will be told that the Topix V3.1.3 is coming up tomorrow.

Hehe...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Niksie:
This one also works with 3.1.2.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mh297:
What's wrong with 3.1.2? I've stuck with 3.0.2 for a while and it's pretty much flawless. I'm wondering what else can be improved or added. What is different in 3.1.3 that you're aware of?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] khanem:
Adding footprint and a twitter tab that work with GPRS connection:cool::cool:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lazy79:
adding htc wifi router stuff would be nice if possible ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
That's probably not going to happen! Footprints and Twitter are part of Manila 2.5 - and 2.5 is unbearably slow! I'm very sure Kwbr is not going to go that path... I'd be very suprised if he does!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] khanem:
I dont think that twitter or footprint are cpu or memory intensive applications. using winmo 6.1 will make things go faster. i mean there is no graphics images or animations used like manila weather.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
You misunderstood: You can use seperate Twitter and Footprint apps (is the latter even available?), but the Twitter and Footprint TABS are part of Manila 2.5 and can't be used with 2.1! If you want those tabs, you have to go full-blown 2.5 AFAIK - and that's probably not going to happen, because 2.5 is slllloooooowwww... ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] khanem:
well i already use a tweeter application. i only need a footprint one.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] crashDebug:
uhm i was sure in sense 2.1 there was the footprints tab? (sense 2.1 = the one of 3.0.2)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] imUncleBill:
Just looking for something new and different. Kwbr is a genius,you know, always full of surprise.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] correutemporal:
Grey Folders....

Why grey folders in Topix Roms ?

Rac
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Zakraket:
It works :) However the frontpage is messed up (clock and agenda unreadable). Probably because I have the weather-version (3.0.2), I should try another Topix-version.

I've tried a lot of versions of this CAB, but haven't seen this WVGA-version before

I'll try this, tnx
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] barisahmet:
I havent ever tried WinMo 6.1 & Manila 2.1 combination. If kwbr makes one, it will worth to try it. Unless then, there wont be any twitter or footprint tab(s).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] neophlorys:
Hi Kwbr! Are u still with us? Please be! :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] eurocat63:
+1.Please do not keep us in suspense. Where are you?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwbr:
Still here my friend. A bit busy at work last weeks so there is not much slack to play with xda stuff. There will be a rhodium port update tonight and I think I will share topix 3.2 next weekend. It is my choice to run manila 2.1 without the weather addon. I have been playing with a lot of packages so it will be a real frankenstein build again.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] edwinlinkt:
Nice to hear that :D

Love your Topix and Manila Without Weather :D

One question, is Topix 3.2 WM6.1 or WM6.5?

while waiting, will try your new Rhodium ROM :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jeanfrederic:
Good choice, the weather addon is just useless but cosmetic!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] phanthanh2k4:
Best ROM ever, totally happy with 3.1.2, it smooth, speed, stable with long live power supply.

Thank kwbr.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] virtualx:
same here kwbr. thank you k.

- anyone tried radio 1.17 with t.3.1.2 ??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigGiantFish:
I've been running radio 1.17 on Topix with no problems.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] virtualx:
thanks for your feedback

any improvements on battery's life ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] khanem:
can you please add a footprint tab to manilla?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ares.yu:
Where can I download this rom: Topix 3.1.2 [5.2.21055][1.59.709]?

Thanks very much.

Ares
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lazy79:
look at the first post of this thread
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] alcheng:
I've been running radio 1.17 with 3.1.2 for a while but switch back to 1.14 recently, I found it's better battery life and the HD is a bit cooler.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
Not possible and has already been discussed several times! Please search before posting! ;)

It can't be done, because the footprint tab is part of Manila 2.5 and tabs from the newer Manila versions can not be integrated in Manila 2.1!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miguel.netreg:
Itching for your next ROM update!!!..

Hey Champ!.. Rocking roms!..

Any news on your next release yet?!..

Looking super forward to it!!!..

WinMo 6.5 + Sense 2.1 combo?..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] imUncleBill:
Glad to hear it.

And take your time as long as you are till here with your fans.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigGiantFish:
I didn't notice any real loss on battery life compared to 1.14.

It is true that the battery does get a little warmer when charging.

But when it is all said and done, I think both radios are very similar.

Test and see what works better for you.:)

BGF
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] iyadbader:
Thank you very very very Much!

Really this is the first time i try to update my device and your instructions were so clear and right to the point !! Thanks allot i loved it!! and its working just fine!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigGiantFish:
From a page back.

So no sense 2.1. :( And from the beta release it will be 6.5.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
I think it's good that it's regular 2.1 and not sense! :D

But I would prefer a 6.5.1 ROM - I've been using EnergyROM Photon (which has a 2.1 sense + 6.5.1 combination) for a few days now and I'm really impressed! The finger-friendlyness of 6.5.1 is really great and without Manila 2.5 it's running really smooth! Not sure why Kwbr doesn't want to use it though... Although I've read somewhere (I think in the Wiki) that 6.5.1 supposedly isn't as stable as regular 6.5 and has few bugs, I haven't encountered a single one until now!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gnarlytom:
i agree! I've tried a few 6.5.1 and i think its actually a reason worth upgrading to 6.5 for! so much more finger friendly, and the big buttons across the bottom make life a lot easier when you're trying to navigate around with one hand.

the only downside i have noticed is there is no HTC task manager in these ROMs.

energyrom photon is the fastest of these i have tried, but still not as quick as topix, and i don't really like the customisations in that ROM.

as always, i end up back at topix, after trying many others, and i can dream of the day we have a 6.5.1 topix!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwbr:
Tell me what os version is stable :) The latest 23089 has some nasty bugs, a reason not to release a topix in public with that branche yet.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] virtualx:
please somebody, how can i change my black background to blue like this ? is this posible? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=446217
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Blessed HD:
I tried a 6.5.1 ROM before.. & yes, the buttons are bigger & menus are spacier.. But I did not like the bar at the bottom coz it conflicts with e.g. SPB Mobile shell menus & takes out a big chunk of the screen.. Aside from the fact that it wasn't as stable as 6.5 :rolleyes:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] OnlinePredator:
23506? Alot of roms are using this now, as it is quite fast and stable.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] OnlinePredator:
Have you tried the 23506 builds? They are extremely stable, and have all the new goodies including like the new contact management, better tab navigation etc etc etc etc. Sorry to say but it is the next step up, and is getting better and faster than the 6.5 builds.

P.S. Just because SPB dosen't work is not a reason to dismiss a more featuresome and more usable build lol. And yes it does work as i am using it right now with a 23506 build, a simply search would have solved your problem. (Hint: it's called POSITIONFIX and may even be located in your startup folder, once removed SPB works fine)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gnarlytom:
it doesnt actually use up any extra space. it makes the top bar smaller and the bottom bar bigger - the actual space in the middle is the same

any plans for a 6.5.1 rom kwbr?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] edwinlinkt:
Use HDWalls to have any background.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=503511

:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gnarlytom:
sorry repeat post
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
I'm using 23504 without any issues!

And I agree: I don't like all the customization in the EnergyROMs!

Also: 6.5.1 is not as fast as 6.1 Topix - but is 6.5.1 slower than regular 6.5? I don't think it is!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] LoopyLoo:
TomTom 7/GPS Issue ?

Has anyone noticed any GPS problems either with TT7 or HTC GPS Tool?

I've had ver 7.910 (9185) for a while now, but recently, when using it in earnest once more, I notice that it seems to take ages to acquire satellites properly. Sometimes it wont acquire them at all! Even after restarting the app and/or rebooting the HD.

And sometimes it "detects" the satellites (grey columns in the GPS Status screen) but no "lock" (when columns go blue).

Acquisition difficulties are confirmed with similar behaviour in HTC GPS Tool.

I dont remember this ever being a problem with Topix 2.9.4 + R1.13???...

Loopy
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gnarlytom:
I used to have similar issues a while ago back on the stock ROM and older custom ROMs, but i haven't noticed it for months.

The old work around i used was, after a flash / hard reset, before you install tomtom, make sure you have run 'quickGPS'. that used to solve it for me, but , as i say, i haven/t had to do it for months.

also, running gps before you start tomtom after a soft reset used to help sometimes...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] pkshr:
Have you tried GPSTest. Try it here http://blownfuze.org/files/GPSTest.ppc.CAB. See what do you get with it. It will give indications on how good is your GPS device doing :-)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Blessed HD:
Mobile Shell was just an example, my friend :)

I actually dismissed the 6.5.1 ROMs until further notice, as I like to use stable full featured builds rather than testing..testing..testing & looking up fixes..!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] OnlinePredator:
If you did some research into the new builds, you would find that the majority of problems are to do with the latest builds of manila 2.5. Not wm.

If you are looking for a 100% stable build of windows mobile, you are in the wrong camp - I would suggest moving to iphone. Even the final wm builds that are shipped have bugs, freezes etc. The latest builds such as 23506 manage apps in the background closing them when it needs more ram, have quicker boot up by a few seconds, better UI, MUCH BETTER UI lol.

If you haven't used the new 23506 roms then I suggest using Shelby's http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=580350 Sh3lby 1.6 No Manila WWE version. It is VERY fast and VERY stable - No "testing...testing...testing" required.

Once you have tried that, then comment on the stability of these builds. -Don't install apps if you want to test stability by the way. Apps are generally what cause instability.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nearlygod:
I´just had a go on a 23506 rom and must say, it´s nice.

I tried vanilla 15.11 also but couldn´t find any significant difference to topix 3.1.2.

Just this 23506 makes a difference to 6.1.

I would love to see a Topix or Vanilla with this WM. With Manila 2.1 (which i´m just testing) it´s not too slow either.

But kwbr can make it better, i´m sure!

nearly
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Blessed HD:
Thnx for the info. I might check out the ROM you've mentioned..

BTW

I'm considering the android camp, but I'm not giving up WM. & FYI, I'm not AGAINST the 6.5.1 builds! :D

Looking forward to the new 6.5 TOPIX..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henrik.dk:
OS is useless. The only value is in the application. :D

If OS is causing problem to the application (slowed down or getting unstable)

when running an application, it is still M$'s fault.

:D

I will stick to 6.1 for now and year after to Android. That is almost the time

to throw away HD.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] LoopyLoo:
I used to have problems with the stock ROM as well, but never with the cooked ROMs (I've used several of Dutty's and Topix since 2.1.1).

Upgrading from R1.09 (in the stock ROM) to R1.13 made a HUGE difference too.

But I never remember having to muck about with QuickGPS before. All I used to do was disable AGPS in the early ROMs that had it. Never touched QuickGPS!

I think there's something else awry here!...

Thanx, I may check this out, although I've had no issues at all with the HTC GPS Tool up till now.

Loopy
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lelo4ever:
hello... is there some kinda Old versions repository?... i'm trying to find an older topix version that supports manilla 2.1 w/weather animation (sense manilla)...

tks!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwbr:
I can build a test release tonight with 6.5.1 :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Hordo:
Tested the 6.5 version for a long while.

Now back to 3.1.2 (I can't do without my dutch T9 keyboard) and I hate to say it, but it's still faster then the Windows 6.5 build.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] virtualx:
go on kwbr , i'll stay up tonight for that ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gnarlytom:
that would be brilliant!

don't know if you have a preference, but some versions have round bottom bar buttons, and some square......i think the square looks much more slick!

is this some sort of tweak that other cookers are applying to make the buttons square?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwbr:
Ok, build and upload tonight. I leave the screenshots up to someone else :)

The rom will have ce os 23609, manila 2.1 without weather. Wifi router is also part of the rom but not tested yet.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Niksie:
Great!!!:eek:

Did you managed to get the dutch T9 to work and that it remembers custom words??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] khanem:
no sleep tonight
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Blessed HD:
Excellent!

Looking forward to that :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bkmill:
FAB. Stop by for drinks on monday ;-)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwbr:
cu@ steve earle :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dizzle:
6.5.1 musings

I tried a 6.5.1 rom yesterday, didn't stay with it very long, it Didn't have a taskmanager, the volume was the standard WM volume and there was an issue with the dialler where there was a massive scrollbar down the side of it. Other than that it seemed ok. The large buttons at the bottom are a bit garish but it's different I suppose.

Kwbr, now that the crazy flip of the sense clock has been fixed I can't really see any reason to use Manila without the weather, like u have said, personal choice I suppose. Just that when I used the previous 2.1 on 6.5 without weather I didn't notice any memory advantages as they seemed to use the same amount. Also with Sense, u don't have to have the weather on the home screen. Anyway look forward to trying the beta.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwbr:
Yeah, same issues with topix beta 3. I consider this build a real testcase. Just wanted to see the look and feel of the new com5 branche. Some people asked for it to share so here it is. For daily use I will go back to the com2 branche which has far less bugs.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nearlygod:
Hm, sad but true, although it´s not too much.

kwbr, can you have a look at unicode display on the mail tab for 3.2?

In 15.11 vanilla it´s not working for the first rom of yours ever.

thanks in advance,

nearly
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] reyber:
kwbr, you are the only one who has stayed developing rom with winmo 6.1

i don't like windows mobile 6.5 its still te buggy and very slow and also battery eater:P

i am hoping for a next release of topix, and i hope that you can choose youre own manilla (htc sense, manilla 2.5, manilla 2.1)

thank you for all your effort...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lazy79:
just can fully agree that

thank you very very much kwbr
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
A dream come true! Topix 6.5.1! Awesome! :D

Regarding the bottom buttons: Many have noted that their design is not the greatest - and for many themes that is true. But I've always liked the HTC Black theme (check screenshot 1 - the screenshot is my current theme, still EnergyROM "Photon") - so I recommend checking the different themes available on the 6.5.1 ROM!

Also, making the bottom and top bars transparent and having the wallpaper stretch across the whole screen improves the appearence even more (check the second screenshot I made a several weeks ago).

EDIT: I feel kinda stupid, but where can I download your 6.5.1 test-ROM?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwbr:
And it is already offline/replaced :) So far for the com5 branche experiment. This 6.5.1 microsoft release still has some very annoying bugs so beta 4 is online with ce os 21877.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
Oh no! I missed it! :(

What bugs did you encouter? I always wondered what issues everybody is complaining about with 6.5.1... :confused: :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] imUncleBill:
Thanks. I just noticed it. But the link for beta4 seems cannot be opened. Check it please, will you? Thanks.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BigGiantFish:
It is on the first page in the first post.

BGF
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] MAMeingast:
No - not anymore... :(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwbr:
Thanks pride, been testing it and one thing I might change in an upcoming version is decreasing the number of maxconnections for PIE and the maximum number of tcp retransmissions. I am not sure about it but I have a feeling PIE is slowing down when browsing large webpages. The values I used where recommended by HDtweak however. You can easily change the settings yourself with a tool like HDtweak or Advanced Config.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Rougenator:
Somebody noticed that diamond tf3d 0.67 is not working? I always install, after installing a new version kwbr's rom, the singh 15 tabs tf3d. To rearange the tabs I always use diamond tf3d 0.67. Anyone a solution? Everything else is perfect by the way!

KWBR thanks for again a perfect job!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] simon1219:
I overwrite 5c9aa261_manila with the original version to get back the original home background instead of the total black background. This may have messed up the home manila (no problem with v2.3.2 and v3.1). As I have fully configured my program and solved the problem by overwriting all the manila files with the original files, I didn't hard-reset to verify the cause.

Anyway, by overwriting all the manila files with the original files, does it increase the storage usage on the device or no change?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwbr:
Thanks for the feedback on this! Issue found. New version will have a manila update :)

When you still have problems with diamond tf3d, replace the 2 files in \Windows with the files from the attachement. Although this might fix it I consider it a diamond tf3d bug. I also added a cab for an easy install.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwbr:
Version 3.2.1 online

New version 3.2.1 is online with Manila update. I have a feeling this one really rocks :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nightstar:
Hi kwbr

What is the new manilla version ?

is it faster than the older one ?

should i install it now or are you going to release any newer amazing

rom like you do ?

Thanks for you great work
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwbr:
Hey nightstar,

The new version has Manila release 1.3.35867.1_1630.38 with a few tweaks. I think it is slighty snapier than the previous version with these tweaks. Rom 3.2.1 also has some minor tcp tweaks. I will be really busy the upcoming week and after next weekend I will be abroad. So I guess for now there won't be a major rom update. I have a feeling version 3.2.1 is the best I can get out of the current hTC roms. The only thing I can think of for now is focus on memory usage but that is not really an issue with the amount of memory the Touch HD has.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nightstar:
kwbr, you are really great.

one more thing, why dont you use newer os versions ?

are they not good enough ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwbr:
Well, I have several versions in my kitchen at the moment. I still think 20764 (base 1.19) is the most stable and fastest os version (for HD). Actually I know for sure because I did benchmarks with some other roms. Differences are not that spectacular though :)