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[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
I can still downgrade com.vivo.pushservices with the usual trick- but as before it is restored to latest version on reboot. Also as before even if downgraded it cannot be uninstalled.

Battery life after reboot is still very bad with screen on. Much worse than before the update. The strange thing is that my debloat is still fine - the vivo pushservices/notification engine are not active, adguard firewall log doesn't show any activity of vivo spyware yet I get over 10% battery use per hour of screen on inside in dark environment. It used to be around 6% not 10%. Idle drain is okayish now (a bit worse too). Better Battery stats shows nothing noteworthy either (great reception 95% of time, and so on all good).

System launcher even though replaced with Nova for default (but still active for recent apps and buttons) does show quite high however. Maybe that one is misbehaving (I still don't know how you can replace recent apps if debloating the system launcher).

There is a new bloatware: com.vivo.nps - Vivo Exprience Assessment.

and com.vivo.abe, vivo healthservices and a few others reinstalled itself - it was uninstalled via debloat before (overall 5 packages but I'm not sure which besides the ones mentiond above)

Also it's completely impossible now to downgrade/uninstall/debloat the system launcher even with data/local/tmp trick.

pm install -r -d /data/local/tmp/com.bbk.launcher3.apk

Failure [INSTALL_FAILED_VERSION_DOWNGRADE: System app: com.bbk.launcher2 cannot be downgraded to older than its preloaded version on the system image. Update version code 110501013 is older than current 135000396]

respectively with another version:

pm install -r -d /data/local/tmp/com.bbk.launcher2.apk

Failure [INSTALL_FAILED_VERSION_DOWNGRADE: System app: com.bbk.launcher2 cannot be downgraded to older than its preloaded version on the system image. Update version code 130001116 is older than current 135000396]

So whoever hasn't updated yet uninstall the launcher, then upgrade, then you can reinstall an old version after update (hopefully, not sure). the battery drain seems to be somehow related to system launcher - at least that's the only app showing up prominently in battery stats that before never showed up or very low.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] kyero985:
Yes, it's working well now.

Also, someone WhatsApp video called me a moment ago and originally my screen would always stay off and not wake up until I go into WhatsApp to view who is actually calling me. Now it just wakes up my lock screen and there's an immediate notification.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
Battery life is really messed up, look at today's screenshot. Talking on signal with Bluetooth Headset got the full phone hot and drain over 10% per hour with display off. Also phone is 16° Celsius over Ambient temperature. That's just crazy for talking with signal over Bluetooth headset. No change vs before the update otherwise at all. Battery is draining at twice to three times the speed.

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The screen off includes 1:30 hours listening to podcasts on headset and 1 hour Signal on headset. My phone only loses 1.5% of it's tiny battery per hour listening to music on headset (350mah battery Fenix 6x pro). So the phone should not drain anything noteworthy with a 4550 mAh battery capacity left.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Bl3s:
I've never had any issues regarding battery life with this phone. Can go 2 days without a charge on normal use.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
I had great battery life after full debloat before that crazy update. Actually I just noticed that vivo ****ed up my Adguard firewall and apps like push notifications service cannot be controlled anymore and the VPN for all connection settings is hidden. Push Services now consumes loads of energy. This update seems to be mainly about vivo destroying anything antispy that you set up turning the phone back into default crazy spyware machine. And something is broken on Bluetooth. Disabling Bluetooth seems to make it a bit better.

Push Services from not active at all to going berserk since the update .

It uses crazy amount of battery as visible here .

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[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] BlackJack'89:
I have about the same consumption. Next week I try a hard reset,debloat, adguard etc.

For notification push service, total blocking of the internet via adguard, clear cache and data.

Through app ops I created a template with everything set to "ignore" and restrictions. To be applied automatically at each start. And consumption by that application has ceased.

Consumption is high at 7 am immediately after rebooting. After I applied app ops and the problem was solved
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
I think it must be that china spyware Push notifications goes crazy without phoning home. It was still blocked, but use VPN for all connections had been disabled with the update. I now restored the VPN for all connections and setup private dns on top. Maybe Push clusterfuck notifications will give up again.

Oh phone and Messages cannot be debloated anymore either.

Push crap used 1000 mAh battery within 24 hours of very light usage of the phone. Impossible to get decent battery life like that. This phone now just goes berserk if it cannot phone home to China... and that is with loads of apps debloated
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
Just another day with completely havoc battery life. It literally cannot get any worse

Most is android system and push notifications, so all spyware related

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[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Bl3s:
My battery screen looks entirely different View attachment 6003887
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
Well after messing around with app ops to get vivo push notifications to bug off, I somehow ended up with my sim try disabled, and also restoring all settings in app ops I could not get my mobile network back except doing all resets available via settings short of hard reset.

Then I could not re enable nagivation keys in launcher - so thought I quickly re enable all apps via adb and then uninstall them again because I knew that setting was somehow debloated too (and not sure in which apk). It's not possible anymore to debloat tons of apps. As soon as you recover most of com.vivo apps, you can never disable/uninstall them again - except if you can downgrade them before. This is 50 apps of bloatware crap that used to be removable but now aren't anymore. Including vivo.pem...

This phone is just the worst rubbish and spyware machine I've ever encountered on that new firmware. I tried to downgrade but downgrade isn't offered anymore via bootloader.

But yeah as soon as you use adguard to shut off the data for all those system apps battery use now skyrockets. So either you have a spyware loaden phone or you have the crappiest battery life of any phone sold in the last 2-3 years. F**k off Vivo. This phone software is as crappy as it can get.

Oh yeah and it's very instant - block push notifications and battery use skyrockets. Let it work and it spies on you like crazy but uses less battery. Cannot kill it properly anymore. You need to enable the hidden settings - "Allways on VPN" and "Block connections without VPN" - e.g. via activity launcher - find the default settings or network settings and then set them. Otherwise all the vivo spyware just goes around your adguard firewall (and enabe filter all apps in adguard, as well as setup the firewall for all vivo apps of course - by default they aren't blocked jsut by installing adguard)

Has anyone got a link to a full system for local install to downgrade?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] BlackJack'89:
This app gives us inside. Since the last update I am not so much a substantial increase in activity for this application
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
Oh yeah without debloat but with strict Adguard it's even worse. 15%/h screen on in dark room. This phone turned into absolute rubbish and reset on this firmware will not help.

The last firmware with debloat was great except of course for excessive battery on mobile data if high data usage due to cheapo modem. Now it's spyware hell with mediocre battery life or battery life of hell. And app ops cannot Help.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] BlackJack'89:
So there is no solution, either you let it "transmit to the servers" or it consumes in an absurd way. This app can not be removed in any way confirms? I had tried to create a clone app, but with permissions disabled... But of course it doesn't overwrite.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
Take a hammer and smash that phone or downgrade. Is there a full firmware file anywhere, best last version? Anything is better than the current rubbish firmware.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Bl3s:
You've always had problem with the phone/brand. Why didn't you sell it then? Do you have masochist within you?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
yeah, because I couldn't sell it. and on the last firmware version 13.0.22.3 it actually ran quit well, 13.0.24 is by far the worst crap I've ever encountered on any phone - and way worse than any older version vivo ever released as debloating basically anything from BBK and vivo isn't possible anymore

Especially as it's not possible to downgrade (the only version I have as full upgrade is the 13.0.192 - the AF Download tool can download 13.0.22 but it is a file only for flashing which is impossible without it.

And the firmware update via bootloader does not find any upgrade / downgrade files. Previously it was possible to use that to downgrade from trial versions? At least it was possible to redownload the full firmware - maybe that's not working as long as a trial has not been pushed to stable - but right now it's not finding any firmware.

It's about 50 bloatware/spyware apps that are not not removable anymore - which previously were removable. They contact chinese servers like 20-30 times a second if device active.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] HyogaCygnus:
Finally it is working, I debloated with your script @extremecarver before updating and I keept the vivo.pem (power guardian) and it is working as expected, the notifications are fine and I don't see traffic to China servers
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
The battery life is crap anyhow because the script cannot debloat a lot of things now - and yeah vivo.pem doesn't seem to do anything anymore - it's a dead apk since this update.

For me at least the update crapped up a lot and it instantly connected to loads of chinese sites. Then I made the mistake to re enable all apps to check for some errors - and now I cannot get rid of all that ****e from vivo and bbk anymore. .

Now 10-12% battery use per hour - before it was around 5-7% per hour of screen on. And 0.5% before per hour screen off, now 1-2% per hour screen off. And it instantly turned bad after the update.

if running the debloat script on the new trial version on a clean system - it still has plenty of connections every minute to tabao, jd.com, ali, and plenty other of chinese websites. Absolutely crazy privacy wise what this phone does without any consent (decline everything) out of the box.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Bl3s:
I updated mine too. Notifications work like they should, even in dark mode. I've noticed in battery usage some stuff that previously hasn't been there, so I'm gonna try debloating again. Otherwise no complaints so far.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] BlackJack'89:
Given the behavior of apps. Is it advisable to make a format or not?

In the other thread placed my debloat file, I tried over time and during tests to remove as much as possible without taking away functions from the phone.

I finish the game at cs:go 🙃
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] HyogaCygnus:
Look I don't know if this will work but I had a battery issue with the previous update and I executed this command:

adb shell "pm install-existing --user 0 com.vivo.pem" > CON

The battery has been doing better since I did that,

I went to sleep yesterday with the battery at 90% and I woke up at 87%
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
Absolutely crap battery life with Display on and also ****ty with screen off. That's more than double to compared before the update. This phone is a piece of **** not worth anything except the camera now, heating up like crazy and not working

Never ever do a factory reset because than your debloat is done for. I did basically a factory reset while keeping apps and their data (it's called reset all settings).

It needed 15% of battery per hour of screen on. It's absolutely rubbish. I don't think any modern phone is as ****ty as the vivo after the hard reset with all their spyware and bloatware crap. And that's disabling everything you can via debloat or settings. Even disabled fingerprint to save battery.

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I'll stop using this phone now and use my old Huawei p30 pro with 3 years degraded battery because except the camera and display it's the much better phone overall in everything.

There seems to be some problems related to Bluetooth now. If I disable the Connection with my smartwatch it improves a bit but this is simply rubbish and unusable.

8.5% in 3 hours of deep sleep is the biggest joke ever. Oh yeah vivo.pem is installed! And before the crapdate it was really working well.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Tiverask:
Can we please stay on topic? Not sure about others but I follow these threads to stay informed on updates, not 'debloating' and the issues stemming from it. Can you create a new thread and discuss it there?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
The battery life is complete **** especially without debloat - it consumes like crazy also after hard reset. Vivo must have forgotten to include any kind of restricting apps to a schedule in the trial update or maybe messed up the CPU/GPU scheduler or similar. It's bad on wake calls, but that cannot by any means explain the absolutely miserable battery consumption with screen on. Now the screen is not the problem - because the brightness didn't change - it has to do with messing up the SOC/software in general.

With a strong debloat made before the update and never reinstalling those apps, battery life took a hit, but without a debloat it's unusable and turns the phone into a pocket heater....
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Kenshin1870:
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[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] HyogaCygnus:
Try restoring this @extremecarver:

adb shell service call package 131 s16 com.vivo.aiservice i32 1 i32 0

adb shell service call package 131 s16 com.iqoo.powersaving i32 1 i32 0

adb shell service call package 131 s16 com.vivo.devicepower i32 1 i32 0

adb shell service call package 131 s16 com.vivo.aiengine i32 1 i32 0

adb shell "pm install-existing --user 0 com.vivo.pem" > CON

I was facing the battery issue after I removed them based on your previous thread.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] bognik:
Good update, notifications work on dark mode and good battery life (as before).
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Tiverask:
Updated to 24.3 stable this morning. 512GB UK. Unfortunately WhatsApp floating notifications are still broken.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
I did a hard reset, didn't touch app ops or debloat anything and it's very clear, the software from vivo has some problems with likely several of the apps I'm using.

Before installing any google account and any apps I played around with vivo browser and battery life was okayish 8.5% per hour of screen on and as besides WeChat no app did anything standby was very good, fingerprint sensor disabled and I didn't agree to a single optional user /privacy agreement of vivo.

Then enabled both of my sim cards and it went downhill.

Then reinstalled all my apps and battery life is utter rubbish again and the phone a pocket toaster... vivo messed up this software badly, very badly.

On top google clock missed the alarm with autostart enabled but startup disabled.

I have the following apps in autostart, Gmail with 2 accounts, google, nova launcher, Whatsapp , signal, telegram and WeChat, Garmin connect (connected to smartwatch) as well as Adguard and accubattery. Had the same ones in autostart before the update when I had great battery life and even fingerprint login enabled though with the smallest area to save some power (and fingerprint animation off so screen only turns on reaching the homescreen. I even set refresh rate to 60hz.

It's a damn toaster now and not a useful smartphone. And yeah won't be touching app ops as that way before hard reset I got to 20%/hour as the OS went crazy trying to work around the restrictions I placed on the OS.

Only thing there that you can change is disabling keep awake and put background activity into strict restriction.

And yeah I enabled the hidden use VPN for all connections switch because otherwise vivo just funnels all it's spyware around the VPN if VPN doesn't let it pass.

The only positive, after a day of toasting vivo.pem puts vivo.pushservices onto it's Blocklist for using too much battery. This only leads to other apps connecting like crazy to Chinese servers. 2/3 of the DNS requests without any blocking are by vivo crapware. They easily double the data amount too.

What works a tiny bit is enabling the hidden data saver mode with whitelist, however the vivo system kits just assume the whitelist doesn't apply to them and even with only a single app whitelisted (or none) they will munge your data.

Typical battery use now, without any debloat (won't change as debloat now cannot remove much useful anyhow) and without touching app ops yet.

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[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
Actually I deleted my accounts after push services went crazy and it started consuming 25% per hour with push services doing about 150 requests per second into the firewall and put some mock accounts in instead while allowing Vivo to spy everything.

So it's 100% clear. On the current version the system goes berserk (not only push services but also vivo account, vivo app store and other vivo spyware) if you enable vpn mandatory for all connections and then block with firewall all vivo programs from sending out your data. And that is after disagreeing to every single agreement that is optional (except the very first on without which you cannot proceed).

If you don't enable the hidden vpn mandatory setting, the battery drain doesn't happen as the programs will just circumvent the VPN.

But it's impossible right now to have vivo not crazily spying on you without completely wrecking battery life.

As soon as you allow communication again it will settle within 10-20 minutes or after vivo appa sent out all your information.

The last software version was the only one that via debloat could be used privacy concious. The current one turns your phone into a toaster if you decide to block their spyware.

So I will use the phone for a few more weeks as a camera only because I'm not willing to share my information with the CCP and Vivo (and yeah drop the amount of data it's dead clear they don't send metadata but actual data, call content, message content, email content and whatever. The privacy settings don't apply to much of the system crap so don't even bother thinking removing file access or similar will be respected, it's clear from app ops this isn't respected just like VPN is circumvented without the hidden setting, or the data saver with the whitelist has a huge section of whitelisted spyware you don't see or can ignore)

It's usable only and only if you don't mind that 100% of your data will be analyzed and uploaded to China. Up to this version it was avoidable, now it's not anymore.

It will be pixel 8 pro for me or s23U, because origin OS now is a full blown spyware machine which cannot be prevented because otherwise your phone will burn through the battery in half a day, heating up 20 degrees over Ambient temperature constantly during use and 10 during standby.

That it's spyware is very clear as any kind of phonecall or call via app lets CPU shoot up while it's analyzing the content. Oh yeah I could actually measure a significant power draw while speaking Chinese instead of English. Also it was clearly filtering a WhatsApp call when I tried to talk about Xi and Winnie the Pooh... switching to German would within 1 minute drop the CPU usage. English seems to be partly affected, WhatsApp not but wechat was.

Shocking difference of battery with vivo allowed to spy as in the following screenshot.View attachment 6008781

Had vivo been blocked it would be 60% instead of 15% for those 4 hours of screen on time.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
Oh yeah the newest firmware has a way to set up if the face unlock should work with or without glasses (it's a hidden setting). It doesn't work at all. I could unlock with reflective sunglasses. On the other hand it would not unlock if I put on my bicycle helmet but no sunglasses.

Couldn't unlock with picture anymore but if I trained it with my bicycle helmet, then my flatmate put the helmet on it would unlock him.

Clearly that face unlock is absolutely rubbish else this would not work. Doesn't matter to me anymore as you cannot trust this phone with any valuable information anyhow so it doesn't matter the face unlock is badly badly insecure.

It should be called head unlock because clearly it looks at the shape of your head and not your face. Something very distinctive like half lid helmet was enough to fluke it. Yeah not talking about full face helmet here but a half shell MTB helmet.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] bmw320cd:
Finally, this is very very very very good news, so you stop poisoning our brains with your persecution of your "data" .

I hope you throw your vivo in the garbage as soon as possible and get an s23 or pixel8, so maybe you can stop doing OT in a thread where we should only talk about trial versions and not about bloatware, spyware, debloat etc.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] fabjazz:
Great update and phone since I have it. I think to change this phone for the x110pp or 120pp.

My battery life is very good, always the same 0 to 2% a night. My habits with Android are the same since Android 4.4: Smart launcher pro 3 (notifications does not work anymore on the interface but it works on the notification bar and the OS... enough for me), screen at 60hz, black font, eco data on and eco system on, Adguard on and vpn when I need, fly mode on night. Manualy debloat in the os nothing done with a computer.

I don't care chinese got my datas on an xml file with billions of datas, nothing interesting in it. Google had it and Microsoft too.

Unless we'd want to change the world or return to Nokia dumbphones with a DSLR, there are no perfect privacy solutions available right now with a good camera inside.

So very happy with these last updates because my phone works very very well with my use.

And thanks to Gcam community (#Telegram) to make the camera even better !
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] :
I hope he's going for the Sammy because I don't want to meet him at the pixel 8 pro threads.😂
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] franagan75:
I change my phone every year but I'm so happy with this phone that I'm going to take a long time to change it for another
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] HyogaCygnus:
I'm happy with this phone too, Nova launcher battery life is great, no Chinese spyware at least I'm not able to see connections to China servers no idea what he did to his phone 🤣
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
I put the settings above for VPN and adguard. If you don't set the hidden VPN setting it will just bypass unnooticed. The statistics in adguard don't work, have to click into the log. Not sure why. And it happens first thing on hard reset device - debloating push service would be the answer but no one ever managed that on the X90pro+ (don't debloat com.vivo.abe - that the only app able to stop push services should it go crazy, but it needs about 1 hour of burning through the battery to kick in and reboot resets it's list).

You have to access the hidden settings e.g. with activity launcher and search for network or vpn in the settings app. Vivo decided to hide many core android functionalities but they are accessible with activity launcher. (forget apps like hidden android settings, they are all meant for xiaomi).
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Kenshin1870:
Me too, this pictures worth all the cons on this phone, almost a year with him and this photos are the best. Hate samsung and iphone so as pixel, so anybody knows when the x1000 pro plus will land, i going again with vivo this year.