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[Honor Magic V2] Falkenhayn:
The Google update is not available anymore if you click on the link (https://retail.hihonor.com/dist/questionnaire/?questionnaireId=654360654d28531f2acef343#/pc-index).

Received my V2 this morning from Wondamobile and that's really annoying now. Any idea, where you can best contact the customer service to still get the update?
[Honor Magic V2] MoBo_the_Hobo:
There is no other way possible to get GMS. Honor is probably preparing the general rollout of GMS or Update to MagicOS 8.

I received today a parameter update in the afternoon, so probably something is up in the background. I think it was pushed after they disabled the Form (Parameter Upgrade is different from an OS Upgrade, but mostly used, when there will be a OS Update Preparation)
[Honor Magic V2] thklinge:
Removing the GMS-update is a good sign. It should mean that they pepare a global ROM with full Google integration, for the Chinese market phones.

It could also mean that they are getting ready for an European phone and are ditching the Chinese version... But I'm hopeful.
[Honor Magic V2] Falkenhayn:
I don't think there will be a general rollout of GMS.

Rather, in a few weeks the global launch of the V2 will take place. Honor wants to get rid of its V2 stock for high prices in global markets before the Honor Magic V3 launches in Q1 24.

They are rumored to launch only the more expensive versions of the V2 in Europe for at least 1600€, but more likely >1800€.

So if they truly released a update with GMS for everyone, everybody would be incentivized to keep importing the V2s from China for 1200€.

My guess would be, they stopped the form so that we stop importing the cheap Chinese V2s and rather buy the more expensive global versions to be released soon.
[Honor Magic V2] MoBo_the_Hobo:
In my opinion they would atleast build in GMS into the China Rom for chinese People who travel around the world like Xiaomi or Oppo China. Probably MagicOS 8 will have GMS. The greatest thing would be a general Global Rom Upgrade but the chances are very slim.

They would still alow export of China Rom V2 and added GMS, because the CCP wants to collect Data.
[Honor Magic V2] chortya:
I was trying to research the GMS situation in the "My Honor" app Chinese community and it seems that Magic OS 8.0 will include that limited support of GMS (no Android Auto etc) as a standard feature. Honor positions it as a feature for Chinese who travel abroad.

But it's probably wrong to assume that Chinese versions of the phone will support global ROM or fully integrated GMS.
[Honor Magic V2] Felixinmanila:
at least some good news 😀 Thank you!

Any news on the release date for OS 8.0?
[Honor Magic V2] Falkenhayn:
I hope you are right and that's the reason for discontinuing the Google update form.

Any chance they release it in the next few days? I have just 7 days to return my device to Wondamobile and without GMS I would not keep it
[Honor Magic V2] chortya:
No idea, there is no official statement on the date. I assume it will be second week of January inline with the global release.
[Honor Magic V2] izbr1234:
Did someone installed Wear Os app successfully?
[Honor Magic V2] jakym78:
Not for me 😭
[Honor Magic V2] izbr1234:
We can only use the smartwatch as headset. No notifications from phone unfortunately
[Honor Magic V2] Falkenhayn:
By the way: shouldn't the black leather version of the V2 be at 231g?

I weighted mine with kitchen scale, which is definitely accurate, and it came out at 237g. 237g was supposed to be the weight of the glass version.

Not a huge difference, I know, but I bought mine specifically for the record low weight. 237g is already similar to OnePlus Open etc
[Honor Magic V2] chortya:
My Magic V2 Ultimate with leather back is also 237g. I guess this is the weight of the sim card that adds up.
[Honor Magic V2] Falkenhayn:
Ah, interesting. No I weighted without a SIM inside. Also, the nano SIM usually weights less than 1g
[Honor Magic V2] conceptgate:
The 231g version is likely the basic Black leather back version that is non-ultimate. Bear in mind that the Ultimate version also has 4 time the storage of the basic 256gb model - so this likely adds to the weight.
[Honor Magic V2] marbo2k9:
Maybe Honor weighed with an empty battery and your battery is fully charged.

😂
[Honor Magic V2] izbr1234:
Extra 8 gram is for screen protector for inner screen.
[Honor Magic V2] Falkenhayn:
I do have the basic black leather version with 256gb and it is 237g instead of 231.
[Honor Magic V2] conceptgate:
Ah, then I don't know - I have the ultimate with the leather back and 1TB storage, and that is exactly 237g naked, and has a few extra things that would likely add a little extra weight such as the extra storage, gold accents, different finsh on the hinge, etc. As such, I would have expected the basic model to be lighter.
[Honor Magic V2] hiraan:
I wonder if the external screen protector was installed by Honor or Wondamobile?
[Honor Magic V2] XtianRO:
Honor
[Honor Magic V2] sgazard:
Once the Global version in released will we be able to replace the Chinese ROM with the Global version?

I have Chinese version with GMS working (was on the original beta) …..

Considering selling as using my OnePlus Open as Android Auto and everything works …. Which is fine until I pick up the Honor and remember how great it feels ….

But need full Global version.
[Honor Magic V2] chortya:
I don't think so. They will rather enable limited GMS support as standard.

You could just buy the global version when it's available. I actually miss wireless charging more then Android Auto support. As of now I just use Google Maps navigation with a holder.

Btw, how does OnePlus Open compare in general? I understand that SW is better for multitasking, anything else?
[Honor Magic V2] thklinge:
It's great. Until you pick up the Magic V2. It's slimmer and a tad lighter which is great. The crease in the interior screen is better on the Oneplus though.

And the software on the Magic V2 is like on all Chinese roms, ****ty. Global ROM would be great, but I'm not too hopeful.
[Honor Magic V2] sgazard:
OnePlus Open is a great tool. Great for multi tasking and everything just works

In comparison with my iPhone 15 pro Max it feels well built and you wouldn't have a problem trading one for the other .....

.... Unless you've tried the form factor and lightness of the V2 🤯
[Honor Magic V2] sascha.zindel:
Well, if someone from Germany has a OnePlus Open and is willing to sell it, I would buy it.

Although the Honor Magic V2 is great in size and features, the ROM is far beyond the quality of others.

Just a small example:

Within the gallery most ROMs support pointing at a person and extracting this person as a separate image.

Try this with the Honor Magic V2 and nothing happens.

I surely will keep the Honor Magic V2 as it a great piece of hardware and further ROMS might improve, but I really would love to use a OnePlus Open as the software and the camera is far better than on the Honor Magic V2.
[Honor Magic V2] chortya:
Received Parameter update, probably prep for FW update as was mentioned in earlier posts.
[Honor Magic V2] sascha.zindel:
So, that is interesting. I received a parameter update as well and mine states:

ND.GT.1.10.23.113

In which country do you live and what SIM card do you use?
[Honor Magic V2] chortya:
Germany, T-Mobile/DTAG
[Honor Magic V2] chortya:
Good news, there is official 15% discount for future V2 orders in Europe. You just need to register for Honor account.
[Honor Magic V2] marbo2k9:
Perfect, thx 👍🏼
[Honor Magic V2] sascha.zindel:
Myself Germany, Telefonica/o2 ..... but you do have the GMS Version as well? If so, I am surprised that we have a different parameter configuration.
[Honor Magic V2] chortya:
Yes, I have GMS FW. V2 Ultimate.
[Honor Magic V2] Allografter:
I think the release dates in Europe are going to be different from each other. Going through the various Honor websites, the vouchers become active from mid January in France and Germany, whereas in the UK it is from the 26th January. The launch in the Middle East is the 1st Feb.
[Honor Magic V2] ebrahim.popat:
Got a new update. 1.58gb.
[Honor Magic V2] chortya:
What version?
[Honor Magic V2] chortya:
Got it too.
[Honor Magic V2] chortya:
I believe this version now includes GMS for all users. After restart it showed explicit screen explaining Google Services for "traveling abroad". I guess this is good news. Somebody without GMS beta FW needs to update and confirm.
[Honor Magic V2] marbo2k9:
It is incredible. I hope i will get GMS for my chinese V2 🫠

YouTube Video from The Tech Chap
[Honor Magic V2] z06forever:
How can I get The GMS in my Chinese V2 ? I really hated the phone with Gbox, it useless, notifications issues, lag, and I have read that it is not possible to install a global ROM on Chinese versions of Honor because the bootloader is locked or the global has different model. Is this true? I am really disappointed
[Honor Magic V2] marbo2k9:
Maybe you should read this thread ;-)
[Honor Magic V2] z06forever:
I did, but am confused
[Honor Magic V2] Niccolo:
GOOD NEWS!! I GOT THE GOOGLE SERVICE! I subscribed to the beta program from the link in this thread and yesterday i revieve all.

Just to know:

- The update added the play service but not the Google Play Store (turn on the play service in settings - accounts)

- Just download the Play Store APK and all works

- if you reset the phone no problem but there are no Google configurations in the first step

- i tried all the app and all is great, olso The update

- You have to choose Google for the password suggestion in the settings if you want the autocomplete as usual

- google wallet works for payment NFC and for all the card/travel etc.

- All the app recognize Google accounts and login automatically in case

- Work profile (for Workspace user) work as well

So, first 24 hours, finally we have a working phone :D

In addition, i delete/deactivated all the Chinese app and yoyo suggestions, add google Keyboard and alla is great. I also changed the Icon Pack.

Here same screenshot (in Italian sorry xd)
[Honor Magic V2] Katto89:
Hallo dear 😊

How long have you been waiting for the update since you signed up for it?
[Honor Magic V2] Niccolo:
about 8 days more or less
[Honor Magic V2] bandit081551:
Wow..😀And all Google services are running? Does gpay also work?
[Honor Magic V2] marbo2k9:
OMG this is a Dream 🥳

I want to sign up too, but i dont know, which answers are right? Phonenumber and Honor-ID (should be chinese Id?) are required.
[Honor Magic V2] Niccolo:
all works :D
[Honor Magic V2] Niccolo:
I check also Netflix (download normaly from Play Store) and work in FUll HD :D
[Honor Magic V2] bandit081551:
Can you also tell us how you answered the questions?

. Please tell me your current location ( China or Overseas/Hongkong)

. Do you have any travel plans in the near future? ( Yes/NO )

. Do you have any need to use Google Service? ( Yes/No)

. Feedback your Phone Number ( your correct number?)

. Please choose to experience the nolog version or the log version?
[Honor Magic V2] marbo2k9:
I tried to sign up, but without phonenumber is it not possible
[Honor Magic V2] ChodTheWacko:
Can you please try android auto?

And please be very specific about how you answered the beta application.

What country do you live in now?

What country did you say in the application?

What region phone number did you use? Was it actually yours or was it a fake number?

Did you already have an honor id or did you make one?

That's very exciting news!

Do things run better with gms? Like youtube?

I think as long as gms works as expected, might as well jump in - worst case scenario is have to wait a couple of months for the full rollout of gms.
[Honor Magic V2] Thealshear:
Can i change the launcher?

Does it have esim?
[Honor Magic V2] marbo2k9:
I have now sign up.

I answered the question logically. I just happened to enter a Chinese number for the phone number. I'm curious to see whether this really works.

My Honor Magic V2 is now arrived from Hongkong with wondamobile. It really worked perfectly. Ordered on Tuesday and arrived well packaged today. I can only confirm that the device is absolutely brilliant. It is much more comfortable than my iPhone 13 Pro Max. That's unbelievable but true. Software is certainly not perfect without GMS at the moment, but many apps are in the Honor Appstore and I now have the others running via Gbox.

It was the right decision to order directly from china. GMS will come and until then, Gbox is my friend ;-)
[Honor Magic V2] Katto89:
Hallo dear 😊

How did you manage to get a Chinese number?
[Honor Magic V2] marbo2k9:
Only random chinese mobilenumber like 139 1099 8888
[Honor Magic V2] Katto89:
Oh, didn't know that it works 😄

I thought they will check that.
[Honor Magic V2] ChodTheWacko:
That's the real question, right?

Signing up with a fake chinese number is one thing -

But will they actually check and accept the application with it?
[Honor Magic V2] thklinge:
Still no Android Auto?
[Honor Magic V2] chortya:
I don't think so but will test later today.
[Honor Magic V2] marbo2k9:
But launcher still fix? I would love to order a V2 from wondamobile again, but I will probably have to wait for the global release. Wonda currently doesn't have a V2 with vegan leather and would like to be able to change the launcher.
[Honor Magic V2] perfecteric:
Just updated, no Android auto
[Honor Magic V2] thklinge:
Still useless then. That's a shame. 😔
[Honor Magic V2] eyz:
for latecomer, is there any way to install GMS?
[Honor Magic V2] thklinge:
Yes, install the latest update.
[Honor Magic V2] eyz:
i installed version 129, but when I launch playstore, it doesnt open up.

i did not register for the beta.
[Honor Magic V2] chortya:
Did you go to Accounts and enabled Google Play Service?
[Honor Magic V2] Allografter:
Can you now install 3rd party launchers like Nova or are we still stuck with the native launcher?
[Honor Magic V2] eyz:
is it this?
[Honor Magic V2] sascha.zindel:
Still stuck with the native launcher.

I decompiled the Android Framework and it is basically "hard-coded" in the framework. So most likely we will to have to wait until someone finds a possibility to put the global rom on the Chinese phones.
[Honor Magic V2] thklinge:
Since Honor doesn't allow unlocking of the bootloader that would be difficult..
[Honor Magic V2] Honorist:
No implemented GMS I ordered a new one and the gms was 2 hours bevor the v 2 come closed🤬 with the new update still no GMS🙄
[Honor Magic V2] sascha.zindel:
As long as it is an official ROM and does include the proper certificates this would not be a showstopper. But it is true that there most likely will be no custom ROMs for the time being.
[Honor Magic V2] chortya:
Yeah, you can install Nova Launcher but the only option available for selection of standard launcher stays Honor only.
[Honor Magic V2] chortya:
Also tested in my car, Android Auto app states that OS integration is unavailable. Actually here I need to blame Google more then anybody else, they went for deep OS based integration instead of autonomous libraries and app based functionality.
[Honor Magic V2] @hermanockhuizen:
Updated to the latest version. No GMS, also not possible to switch GMS on. I am in the Netherlands. Maybe it is not possible in every country? Somebody tried something else?
[Honor Magic V2] marbo2k9:
Honestly, I would also think it would be great if Honor finally enabled GMS on all Chinese devices. But honestly, why would they do that? The European devices will be significantly more expensive and Honor is a commercial company that wants to make money. They probably just want to sell the expensive global devices from mid-January. It's sad, but probably the truth.
[Honor Magic V2] sascha.zindel:
First of all price will be limited as there are other alternatives on the market. Secondly prices in Europe tend to be higher due to the import taxes (for example 19% in Germany) as well as for the warranty that they need to grant (2 years over here in Germany). As they now are offering 15% discount until the end of January, I would assume that the price will be similar to the price of the OnePlus Open.

If a global rom is released, most probably there will be also a service firmware that can be installed from scratch. As those most likely use the official certificate from Honor, it should not be a problem for the boot loader. If somebody then screws up it is not a problem for Honor as they do not need to offer the same service for imported smartphones from China.

So let us just be optimistic and hope that this small "hole" will open up in the future.
[Honor Magic V2] chortya:
MagicOS8 beta started for V2. You need Chinese phone number for registration.
[Honor Magic V2] thklinge:
Url?
[Honor Magic V2] chortya:
https://club.hihonor.com/cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=28159295&page=1&prevpage=1

Best is to use My Honor app.

It seems this link can't be opened outside of the app.
[Honor Magic V2] thklinge:
Yeah, tried it on my Oneplus Open, no go.
[Honor Magic V2] Honorist:
The link does not work🥺
[Honor Magic V2] chortya:
It does but only in "My Honor".

Select options I marked.
[Honor Magic V2] marbo2k9:
Hä? You tried a link for an Honor Magic V2 on a OnePlus Open? Strange that it doesn't work… 😂💩
[Honor Magic V2] chortya:
I just used random Chinese number and now my application is under review.
[Honor Magic V2] Honorist:
Is it now registrate
[Honor Magic V2] thklinge:
A registration form isn't usually device specific, but I guess honor has locked forum links to the Honor app. I'll have to try on the Magic V2 when I get home.
[Honor Magic V2] chortya:
That link was not to registration link, just official instructions post. You can only register using My Honor app
[Honor Magic V2] sascha.zindel:
Hopefully they do not really use it to send you an sms or something like that.

Besides that, when choosing select "no log" version. With the log version developers expect you to give feedback. For those capable of communication in Chinese language this might be ok, but for all others .....
[Honor Magic V2] chortya:
Indeed, for "log" option you would also need additional identification for BetaClub, whatever that is.
[Honor Magic V2] eyz:
how do you guys log on to Honor ID?

my phone said my account is other region, and cant log onto China region.

can advise? or is something wrong with my set?
[Honor Magic V2] @hermanockhuizen:
I got the same. Please advise.
[Honor Magic V2] @hermanockhuizen:
Is it accepted? Did you create a account how and where?
[Honor Magic V2] chortya:
Got the Honor Magic V2

Arrived today. I must say, it's a revelation in terms of its size. Finally. Foldables no longer sagging in my pocket, that's the biggest deal for me cause I loved the vivo folds but my goodness they were heavy! Battery life is amazing so far...

xdaforums.com
[Honor Magic V2] eyz:
i asked my friend for his China phone number and registered a China Honor ID.
[Honor Magic V2] ebrahim.popat:
Registered and under review. Thanks for the info. Will this come with GMS?
[Honor Magic V2] ebrahim.popat:
Registered and under review. Thanks for the info. Will this come with GMS
[Honor Magic V2] Honorist:
When you will get the update yes. But I think only long club members will get the update😢
[Honor Magic V2] sascha.zindel:
Up until now I do not see any updates on the request (still under review). Anybody has had success with the request for MagicOS 8?
[Honor Magic V2] Thealshear:
I registered for it and still says under review
[Honor Magic V2] thklinge:
Same here.
[Honor Magic V2] XtianRO:
The registration period is open until January 10. I think after the 10th of January they will make a decision.
[Honor Magic V2] Falkenhayn:
If you look on Google there are now a couple of sources stating that MagicOS 8 is set to be released on January 11.

Does that also include the V2 or just for different devices?

Just a bit confused bc all you guys talk about not even being approved for beta testing OS8 yet, so how can it be released in a week?
[Honor Magic V2] sascha.zindel:
It is supposed to be released for other devices such as the Honor Magic 6 .... but for V2 they are just starting to begin testing.
[Honor Magic V2] Falkenhayn:
Oh great, I had my hopes up. The V2 is a bit useless without GMS at the moment.

Is there any educated guess, when they might release it for the V2?
[Honor Magic V2] thklinge:
It's useless with gms also. Too much **** that's missing of doesn't work.
[Honor Magic V2] sascha.zindel:
Ok,

just received new device parameters:

ND.GT.1.10.23.113

HS.PROD.1.10.23.107

No idea what that means but usually I receive an update of device parameters a few days before a new firmware update is rolled out.
[Honor Magic V2] sascha.zindel:
Why do you write this? Only because some of the options do not work for you it does not mean that it is useless with GMS.

Fact is that the following topics do currently not work or are limited:

1. Location history can not be enabled

2. Android Auto can not be used.

3. Push notifications only work if you have the latest Honor Push notification app or if you disable the Honor Push Notification app

4. Launcher currently can not be changed.

5. Android Wear apps tend to be picky depending on your watch (My Samsung Galaxy Watch 5 Pro Works, my Ticwatch 3 Pro Ultra as well, Fossil does not).

6. Gallery app does not allow you to extract persons from Fotos (though depending on the Gallery app being used).

7. Google News widget can not be used by swiping to the right and you need to put a little work into the Honor board to remove Chinese stuff and add the classic widgets ....

Does it mean that it useless? NO! I can use almost everything without limitations and have a great battery experience.

So yes, it is a little bit different from global versions which use Google Services natively. But it is far from being useless.
[Honor Magic V2] marbo2k9:
then why did you buy it? Useless? 😂

It's always funny when someone buys a Chinese device and expects everything to work normally and then cries.

buy a global ROM device and leave this thread 😂
[Honor Magic V2] thklinge:
Yes, it's useless. I mean, some buy Chinese phones without Google and use gbox and whatever, it's a really poor solution.

At the pricepoint it's not worth it to live with that many shortcomings.
[Honor Magic V2] Falkenhayn:
Yeah, I have never used any of these functionalities on my old Android smartphone, so I would not miss them on the V2.

I really hope they release OS8 with GMS soon or at least make that form with the Google update available again
[Honor Magic V2] thklinge:
Also, Google backup and restore doesn't work, so migrating to/from this device means starting from scratch
[Honor Magic V2] chortya:
Interesting, mine are different.
[Honor Magic V2] izbr1234:
I think the phone is one of the best.

About No 5. I have ticwatch 3 pro ultra as well. But, Wear Os app not working for me....
[Honor Magic V2] marbo2k9:
This is not new and you know it when I buy a device with a Chinese ROM. Then just wait until mid-January and add €400 to the Chinese price and buy the global device - very easy ;-)
[Honor Magic V2] sascha.zindel:
Well I do use the new Mobvoi App and Wear OS 3.5 .... do not know which version you have?!
[Honor Magic V2] izbr1234:
I updated my ticwatch watch through my galaxy s22 ultra to 3.5.

But the wear os just 'freeze' on magic v2
[Honor Magic V2] chortya:
I am also expecting Tag Heuer Connected watch to arrive soon, really hope that I can use it with V2 instead of my alternative phone.

It seems I have found solution that works. There is a special official Chinese version of WearOS apk. You need to uninstall Play Store version first.
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