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[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] vendetta17:
Hello, old friend. I just logged in after months to check if you are still around. I am so happy for you, the fact that you are still here after 8-9 months since this phone launched makes me so proud of you. You gotta love your x90 pro +. It is indeed a fantastic phone, i do adore it.

Much love, old friend.🤗
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] kyero985:
It's been a week since I received v24.3 and some of the things I've noticed so far include:

Camera - Still performing great as always and it still feels every update has been making minor undocumented improvements to the camera behind the scenes. No complaints and this is what pulled me in to purchase the phone to begin with and still no regrets to date.

Battery life - Strangely, for the first time I've noticed there's been a negative impact. I've not changed my usage habits, installed new apps or the way in which I use my phone but 24.3 has slightly made a negative impact to its battery endurance. I also saw at least 5 extra bloatware services installed and tried to remove them and was only able to uninstall a few but not all of them. My SOT has decreased slightly, same with my idle/standby time overnight (previously getting 2-3% drain overnight but now it's 4-5% for unknown reasons).

Performance/Normal usage/overall responsiveness - No issues so far and I've even noticed my WhatsApp floating notifications being more reliable and working properly for the first time, especially something as basic as when it comes to waking up my screen if someone is trying to video call me on WhatsApp.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Kenshin1870:
New update arrives
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Bl3s:
Have you installed it? How's it going?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Kenshin1870:
I don't see any significan changes, camera app remain the same (i always check the camera app version before update).
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Vinzie:
Still no update here... Anyone else also got this update?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Bl3s:
I have. But I didn't see anything different.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
It's all the same crap as the version before. Horrible battery life , android os, system and push services use up 50% battery life.

Also there is a bug in airplane mode and all apps try to connect to internet even though there is no connection. Garmin Connect freaks out push services, WeChat (the original Chinese version) also goes crazy and then the android push all cause horrible battery life. If there is no traffic and no smartwatch coupled via Bluetooth it's fine, as soon as there is background traffic push services goes havoc even without blocking it. Chinese comments on the last two firmwares are also that they cannot understand how vivo could ever produce such a borked firmware. It's worse than fake Samsung or iphone phones battery wise...
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Tiverask:
24.5 stable released, 512GB UK
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] BlackJack'89:
Hello, this morning I got the closed beta of Origin 4.0 but to join there is a test(?) to complete, obviously in Chinese. Does anyone know the answers?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Vinzie:
I got the invite as wel. Filled in the answers by using another phone with google translate (using the camera) to translate chines to english. But I could not fill in my dutch number. Using the country code 0031 was not accepted and I could not enter a +...

So I guess we'll have to wait for the public beta....?

Update: on the 4pda forum they say you need a WeChat account to be able to participate...
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] BlackJack'89:
I thought so, so I avoid compiling and wait for the public beta notification
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
you need a mainland QQ account - similar to wechat - for securing it's from mainland needs chinese bank account linked on QQ. Telephone number doesn't matter. Wechat isn't even asked for - which makes sense as for "feedback" QQ is better suited than wechat. However by now registration is closed.

I guess in 1-2 weeks there will be a public beta. Also the closed beta has limitations like no screenshots and plenty of problems according to chinese forums. Besides battery life reportedly even worse - but I doubt it can get worse.

Just yesterday push services on my phone went even crazier than normal - that is I now use this piece of **** only as camera without social apps but made the mistake of installing spotify - and bam 3% discharge per hour overnight with pushserivces going crazy just once more.View attachment 6027438
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] cozzysa:
Dude, you've destroyed your phone from tinkering with it too much. None of us are having your extreme issues with battery life. This phone for me has been great, other than delayed notifications on my work MS Teams.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
I have hard reset it twice and battery life turns ****e as soon as I install my Garmin Fenix, 2, Gmail accounts with quite a lot of mails /notifications, Instagram, WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, or Spotify and Adguard including a full block of push services - nothing else. Yeah without the Garmin connect running way better but this is full stock.

Post screenshots of your great battery life showing both accubattery and settings battery to prove decent battery life. Last two firmwares are biggest crap ever seen. The firmware before in August/September was good because debloat possible (now mostly impossible and because of hard reset I cannot get rid of all the vivo crapware anymore) before that it was okayish but push services was only not running in August September (and maybe July).

This software is the worst OS ever seen on any phone and rotten oranges 4.0 reports are even worse. And yeah now I just use it for Instagram, camera, and Spotify or similar. No more private data like emails or gmail account.. just an empty Gmail account for play store access and Adguard . Web is full of reports about ****ty battery life on Vivo x series with origin OS..

Oh and notifications for everything are on time with high battery allowance on current firmware. As soon as this was fixed by vivo and com.vivo.pem didn't need to be debloated anymore (well you cannot debloat it anymore now) it turned to hell.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
Oh yeah and android 14 surely won't come as stable version before December. Trial likely early December. The closed beta will be rolled out tomorrow to 2000 users of each eligible series (x90 pp, x90p, x90, x90ps, x90s or iqoo 11 variants and fold 2). 300 out of 2000 devices will be fully monitored whatever that means.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Bl3s:
You really live in some fairy tale world, don't you? Do you really think that any smartphone keeps data on the phone only? Any android device is stealing your data, even if just for alleged advertising or analytical purposes, god knows where this data goes and what for. If you want your data to be safe - go offline and use cash in hand only. But that's hard these days, isn't it? And what's the fuss about most of the AI features being China only if you've purchased China exclusive device? Cause and effect issues? Buggy beta? Seriously? That's what betas are for, aren't they? And as for battery - send me your details, I'll get you a powerbank, so you can entertain us here more often 😅
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
Again, show proof of that data being used like in China and not just metadata.

I help you, all western companies allow a full data download and besides what you upload on purpose it's metadata only.

It's scary if your phone decides you are using it unsafely because you're driving and blocks functions until the device decides you are not driving anymore, no?

And the step to getting a speeding ticket because your phone noticed you drove to fast is now in China a fingertip away. And that is only one "big brother" function. The AI of origin OS 4 shows that people trade convenience for actual surveillance and repercussions by the state. Now it surely will not be correct all time but that won't matter. But yeah some of those examples are fascinating too, because the increase in productivity that is shown is crazy. If EU and US keep on blocking companies to do the same we won't be able to compete.

Oh yeah in the EU or USA with democrats in power a similar thing would be then as long as the climate fear politicians are in power that your phone decides you used up your daily CO2 quota and stops your daily life insisting you go home for the greater good. Thanks Chinese are more reasonable on that front. That's right where the AI in OS4 is going!

What I complain about is not that data is uploaded, I complain about that the user cannot decide which data and that it's uploaded even if you deny those options where you are asked about consent. This will become much worse with OS4 than it has been with OS3.

And actually if Vivo kinda wouldn't already be dead in the EU their China OS phones breaking gdpr for Europeanns or Chinese traveling in Europe would lose them any lawsuit. Different case for Meizu which doesn't even have EU presence. But yeah just another example to show what a pushover the EU is.

And OS4 shows why and how China will replace US hegemony. They won't do it with military power but using loads of data models and AI that simply aren't possible here.

E.g. why show advertising if the phone decides for you where to shop? (Ctrip will surely pay money for being used in the AI as default choice for all travel related). Anything will be decided by AI helping you but also just taking decisions and choice for you. Phones will get much cheaper soon in China the more the AI does, because it's clear the income for Vivo and others will come from your usage, not from buying a phone.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] franagan75:
New update on trial vivo x90 pro+
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] kyero985:
Things I've noticed so far on v13.0.25.4:

Android security patch update from July 2023 to October 2023

Stock camera app updated from .109 to .112

No additional bloatware installed (at least from what I've noticed under the systems apps list)
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
There surely is - I am not sure which - but I controlled before and had 193 system apps installed, and 118 uninstalled.

Afte the update it's 197 installed and 115 uninstalled - so 3 forcefully restored (thank you vivo for even more of your crappy spyware) and 1 new app.

The new one I think is called vivo sight (com.vivo.visionait.builtin) - I think I haven't seen this one ever before.

Which gives it a total of 56 com.vivo bloatware/spyware and another 9 com.bbk after debloating com.vivo.voicerecognition and com.vivo.visionaid.builtin. There are exactly 6 com.vivo apps that I would want to keep (like fingerprint or UI) and 0 com.bbk - making it a total of 59 bloatware/spyware apps that crap up my phone.

Still means another 2 not removable apks which got restored and cannot be removed anymore after the update. But yeah battery life cannot get any worse I hope - so let's see what this updates brings.

On top Vivo gives some of its bloatware access to sensitive data like media and files to Albums (before I surely had removed any permissions from this bloatware) and likely quite a few got permissions which you cannot even remove - like audio effect got Microphone Music and Ausia, Phone and Photos and Videos permission - so surely not less but more spyware here (maybe the later was already before - surely some wree added).

And "Device Management" just activated itself notifications (surely had this disabled for this crapware before). The permissions were alredy not removable.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Kenshin1870:
zzzzzzzzzzzzz just go, we all gonna update anyway, i did and love that everyone has my data xD, ok?!
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] robbie1981:
But sell this Vivo so you avoid continuing to write here, with heavy and boring comments that I think are of no interest to anyone. We like to be spied on by the Chinese, the Americans, the Italians...ok?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
The lateset update is mucht better on battery life compared to the two previous version - still a lot worse than the July/August vresions - because of the reinstalled bloatware and apps like Albums, Phone, smart engine, vivo appstore constantly running (the system restarts them if you force stop them periodically). Push Services finally stopped going crazy. Mayb everyone in China complaining about the rubbish battery life below every video on bilibili about Vivo X series got them to scale back pushservices.

Having bluetooth headphones connected (without actually even transmitting sound) is still a battery killer (that wasn't any problem on July/August firmwares) as is wechat (the most used app in China!) and mobile data on the go for background apps still kills a lot of battery. Something is really broken on the bluetooth with vivo or the chip is rubbish quality - because bluetooth on standby should virtually not use any battery. Just when playing music/calls via bluetooth or sending loads of data the battery use should be noticeable. I mean a garmin heart rate monitor with bluetooth can run a year on a single CR2032 battery with 15 hours a week of activities (yeah get one from Decathlon and it's 3 months only - efficient chipst makse huge difference here)

So battrey life is decent again now - but far from good (it was good with my full debloat in July/August)

The settings menu got a few new entries. Not that you can do much with them.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] vendetta17:
What a meme this guy is, hope you will never leave this forum, dont you ever dare to sell the x90 pro+. Even if you do sell, keep posting your vital information about spywares literally nobody cares of here. You are our comedy central actor in this forum, thank you, our beloved hero.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Vinzie:
New origin os 4 open beta is released for x90 pro plus

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[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] ChromaX83:
En, hoe bevalt het?😜

You like it so far? Goes well with apps and everything?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] brianf2:
I signed up but need to wait until they approve and send the public beta download link. Curious when I can expect it. I am from USA but currently in Norway, hoping to get it as an early Christmas present :cool:
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] ChromaX83:
I wonder if they added more bloatware and such

First reports are there's nothing much new vs OriginOS 3

I wait and see first
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] alt-tea:
Updated about 4 hours ago, so far so good. System is shutting down apps more aggressively but that I expected (needs to optimise for usage again)

Nothing groundbreaking overall. Apps work, nothing broke. I like the new font better :).
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] atheros93:
Greetings from UK ,I enrolled 1 hour ago ,how long it usually takes for them to approve and get the update?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] alt-tea:
You are a bit late, it's closed for now. Look for it on Friday, you should get it via normal system update

Official info is:
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Vinzie:
So far so good, not much differences. The few apps I've opened so far seem to work.

(dus bevalt goed/I like it)...
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Vinzie:
I enrolled and got the update almost immediately
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Vinzie:
Recruitment time: December 20, 2023, 10:00-December 29, 2023, 23:59

Push time: Each model will be pushed in batches according to the order of registration. 5,000 people will be pushed at 10:30 on December 20, 50,000 people will be pushed on December 23, and all will be pushed on December 26. Users who register on December 27 will be pushed immediately

Where did you get the information about the roll-out in batches and their dates ?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] alt-tea:
X90、iQOO11等9款机型OriginOS 4公测招募 - vivo官网社区

vivo官网社区是V粉大本营，是一个汇聚vivo最新品牌动态、新品资讯、评测技巧的阵地，也是V粉获取福利、参与互动、交流体验的大家园。

bbs.vivo.com.cn

also info was on weibo this morning
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] ChromaX83:
I enrolled too (one hour ago) but I think there's a queue now 😅👍🏻
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Vinzie:
I enrolled about 6 hours ago... I guess the limit was not reached then
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] ChromaX83:
Guess so

Ah well, I can wait, no problem 👍🏻

And I can unsubscribe once you found some issues after all lol
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Vinzie:
If I encounter issue, I'll post them here...
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] BlackJack'89:
Has anyone formatted it after the update?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] ChromaX83:
Can you try gcam on OriginOS 4?

On x100p the front and wide lens are blocked by vivo

I hope this won't be the case with the origin os 4 for our model 👀
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] alt-tea:
Well, the only version I had is LMC8.4 that I installed half a year ago out of curiosity and forgot about it. It works, I can switch between all modules
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] ChromaX83:
Wew, awesome! So all aux work😅
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] franagan75:
Battery health info in beta👏
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] ChromaX83:
Wonder how that number is compared to what I have on AccuBattery right now
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] franagan75:
I've had my phone since March, not bad
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
Been in android 13 already. And it's absolutely bogus

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[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] brianf2:
Updated this morning. The notifications are working better than on Origin 3.0 . The floating notifications now work. I had a problem with my Google Play Store crashing when I went to update apps once on Origin 4.0. My solution was to download the newest version of the Google Playstore from APKMirror and that worked. Now my apps are updated as appropriate. My battery health says 100% and I have had the phone for seven months, so it is still in perfect condition.

Google Voice Assistant and Google Timeline are still not available, it was wishful thinking that those could work in Android 14. That is the one downside of a Chinese ROM. Very pleased so far with the update.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] ef1x:
Also updated this morning, and battery usage so far is great. Standby with bluetooth enabled and synced to garmin fenix 7 is around 0.5% per hour
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] lemonade747:
Anyone has a problem when going into the hidden development settings --> running apps then if you click on any apps to see or close them, then it will force close immediately? I have only that problem for now even it's not a big deal. The rest are good. I like the new settings UI and the smoothness of the UI interaction. The battery is still the same, not better nor worse.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] morpheus620:
IQOO 12 Pro with OriginOS 4 and gcam is fully working. Im using AGC Gcam.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] alt-tea:
yup, screen closes immediately for me too. Asked few other people to check - same there

I don't think I've ever closed any process from there in a year, so this I can live without:)
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] ChromaX83:
I've did the update yesterday. One bug that's on mine with Nova Launcher I can't do within an app swipe down to up to go to the opened apps. When I revert to stock launcher and then back to Nova it's all good. It starts when I'm charging the phone. Anyone else here having same issue?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] alt-tea:
Ok, we got a weird one: 60fps video in Pro mode doesn't have 3.5x option anymore. Normal video mode is fine, 4k@30 is fine in Pro, 60fps only allows to use 0.6-1-2x modules for any resolution. Was it so broken that they had to disable it?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] BlackJack'89:
Phone service drain a lot of battery

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[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] virtualknowledge:
I have that too. Solved it based on your solution.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] ChromaX83:
I've been emailing with Vivo about it, they're very responsive about it fortunately 👍🏻👍🏻 let's see
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] DeltaForce88:
After updating to Origin OS 4, Google Play Store crashed. Anyone having the same issues?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] cozzysa:
I also updated a few hours ago and got the crashing play store. But as another person commented, just install the latest version of the play store from apk mirror and you're good.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] kyero985:
I had this issue at first but after clearing the app cache and data, it worked as intended again.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] kyero985:
Are you referring to this? It loads fine for me on the open beta. I've even debloated a few things before updating to Android 14.

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[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] alt-tea:
yeah, but when I click on a service - window closes immediately
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] kyero985:
Stupid question but have you tried turning off virtual/extended RAM and removing any 3rd party UI launchers to see if that makes a difference?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] alt-tea:
No launchers, but RAM was an interesting theory. Unfortunately no, that made no difference
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] kyero985:
Strange issue, you might need to either wait for the next build to see if it fixes the issue. Have you used any debloat scripts before as sometimes they can cause issues?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Bl3s:
What's the conclusion after few days of use? Is it worth it? I use nova so I'm not interested in UI itself, but is battery and camera changed anyhow? What about stability and notifications?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] alt-tea:
Nope, never used adb in any way. Higher chances to get problems with updates, and besides chinese apps don't bother me.

Seems to be 'something wasn't set right while updating' case, so yeah, I'll check it again after new update is available

Just a weird bug that someone mentioned and I realised I got it too.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] kyero985:
Working great so far, best software experience to date.

I've noticed my notifications seem a lot more responsive in waking up my screen although occasionally I've still missed that odd WhatsApp text notification or two until I open up the app. Battery life seems solid too - standby drain/SOT remains unchanged from before which was already good. I've not had to change any other settings after updating to Android 14 regarding my notifications or power related features.

Camera performance seems to have improved slightly during night mode and zoom shots (couldn't take any difference during daytime shots).
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Bl3s:
I can still sign up for beta, so guess I'll do it at some point. Thanks for the reply, appreciate it!
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] kyero985:
The 'nuclear option' would be to factory wipe your phone but obviously I'd recommend against it since we're still in an open beta phase where anything can change and it's not worth the risk in case anything happens.

I would recommend it 100%. It definitely feels more responsive overall (not that it was slow and buggy to begin with).
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] alt-tea:
Nope, not that kind of problem. Factory wipe is a solution for when some bug makes system truly unusable. Otherwise it just creates more problems lol. And rather pointless to do it before we get stable release, I fully agree with you there
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] brianf2:
I installed a new version of the Google Play Store that is for Android 14 and now the store works fine and updates apps. I used APKmirror to find a newer version.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] DeltaForce88:
Thanks, I'll try 🙂
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] franagan75:
Im ver y happy with beta versión only prime video app crash sometimes when i try to open it
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] DeltaForce88:
Managed to download the latest Play Store from Apkmirror and problem solved. Thanks for all the help;
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] virtualknowledge:
One thing got my notice that I cannot limit access of the apps. For example, I was able to give access to 'photos and videos' and I was making it access to only a specific photo or folder. Now this option is no longer possible to me.

There are some apps dying to get that full access and I was saving myself by pretending like I have given full access.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
I've documented this already, origin OS gives the system rights to private data even though you decline every single option and it's not even possible to restrict those rights.

Well it's a clear case of Chinese government wants access to all your private data (EU too but so far laws don't allow them)
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Bl3s:
anyone else got the issue with this button not working when trying to switch between apps? It opens up apps menu from home screen, but when in app, it doesn't work, goes back to the app I tried to switch from. Edit: I'm using nova launcher and recent app menu doesn't work for me, gestures or buttons, it simply doesn't work on any app unless I try to open the menu from home screen.