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[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] beicuxhaven:
@JYR_RC

I would like to thank you again for the update to 9.14. I would never have thought that you would still do the work Everything works and runs smoothly as usual

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] truquete:
Shouldn't someone then change the thread title to discontinued? I respect the dev's decission to stop the support, but it should not misslead future adopters into installing the ROM if no further updates are coming. Crdroid site clearly marks this port as discontinued.
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] PetbkA:
10.2 build 2024.03.09 - working pretty fine, but some annoying bugs and Android 14 limitations make me want to go back to 9.x:

Auto brightness jumps to 100% frequently, usually after unlocking the device, but sometimes after launching an app or even keyboard. Had to disable it;

Zepp 8.4.3 France mod crashes in App alerts settings if watch are syncing;

Organic Maps, Zepp and Berry Browser can't find location although have access to it. This may be the apps' bug 'cause Yandex.Maps works OK, but there are too many such apps and there were no problems on 9.x;

Notifications from Telegram X sometimes appear much later than they should (after 15 minutes or so). Sometimes it seems that they appear only when I'm launching the app;

Some settings should be changed back and forth to really work (noticed with min/max refresh rate and Lift to check phone settings);

Can't install some old apps 'cause of Target SDK limits. Tried adb workaround (including disabling app-over-adb verification) with no avail
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] PetbkA:
Does somebody know what should I do to clean-install 9.14 build 2024.03.10 while currenty being on 10.2 build 2024.03.09 with OS1.0.2.0.UMRCNXM 14.0 China 2024-02-23 firmware?

I.e. what firmware and/or MIUI/HyperOS ROM should I install before flashing 9.14? After recent HyperOS problems I'm not sure about the right way
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] Josh7777777:
I have a question about installing the recovery on my Redmi Note 12 Turbo.

I bought this phone from China and unlocked it. However, when I use 'fastboot boot TWRP.img' to enter the recovery, the phone crashes and enters a reboot loop.

The TWRP versions I've tried are:

twrp-3.7.1_12-v8.6_A14-marble-skkk.img

twrp-3.7.1_12-0-marble-Nebrassy.img

twrp-3.7.0_12-v7.9_A13-marble-skkk.img

None of these files work on my Redmi Note 12 Turbo.

After many attempts, I found that TWRP version 'TWRP-3.7.0_12_v7.8_A13-marble-skkk.img' can be installed on my phone successfully. Additionally, I've successfully installed crDroid 9.13 on my phone.

However, I encounter issues when trying to update to crDroid 9.14. After updating, the android and TWRP recovery both crash.

Do you have any suggestions or recommendations for the recovery version?
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] beicuxhaven:
@Josh7777777

look here https://xdaforums.com/t/rom-14-0-13...ble-redmi-note-12-turbo.4606271/post-89392486
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] duLouser:
To fix the boot loop flashing hyperos via fastboot worked for me and others. After that you can flash twrp a14 and from there an android 14 ROM (crDroid 10 is kinda buggy though, and the marble dev quit so ...). Not quite sure what you'd need to flash to downgrade (if going for 9.13 again is your plan), the whole situation is a bit weird. Perhaps the a13 firmware is sufficient, maybe it's not...
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] Josh7777777:
The first problem that I encountered is installing TWRP on my phone. I've tried using HyperOS, but under that operating system, I cannot install any version of TWRP on the phone. I can only install this particular version of TWRP, 'TWRP-3.7.0_12_v7.8_A13-marble-skkk.img', when the phone is running the MIUI Chinese version.

Please suggest a workable version of TWRP or OrangeFOX for the Note 12 Turbo.

Thank you.
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] Josh7777777:
Thank you for the information.

Any suggest recovery version for note 12 turbo?
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] PetbkA:
Try this OrangeFox. This isn't official, but works pretty fine.

Installation instructions can be found here, I installed via fastboot's fastboot flash recovery_ab command
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] duLouser:
That is weird, because after you've successfully installed hyperos you should be able to simply use fastboot flash to install twrp a14 (twrp-3.7.1_12-v8.6_A14-marble-skkk.img). Don't forget that there are two slots, if you don't flash the recovery on both you might need to switch slot in the stock recovery.

Also, if you can install the a13 twrp when running miui, why not use that?
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] zonatar:
It's a shame that the dev quit, i buy this phone for the crdroid rom and still waiting for the delay to unlock it.

There's another rom similar to the crdroid for this phone?
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] kosto6:
It is true that on crdroid project appears as discontinued, and I have not clue about how internally this rom is managed and what happened on the telegram group, but I still can see people working on the git repository, so my understanding is that project is still not entirely dead, isn't it?
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] Blank504050:
I read that someone else has picked up CrD and working on it.
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] duLouser:
Sounds nice, but can you say where you read it?
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] kosto6:
I am a happy user of crDroid 10 and I was on your same situation. I was digging a little bit this morning and I see 2 options here:

Project Matrixx, https://www.projectmatrixx.org/downloads/marble . I have seen this morning that one of the users that has done changes recently on crDroid base code is the maintainer of project matrixx that apparently it is a crDroid based ROM. The maintainer, Samba Siva Rao, help me in the past with a problem with streaming apps on crDroid so, I am going to try his/her rom. To be honest it looks very promessing.

LineageOs. This has been my rom during all the life of my previous phone (a poco f1) and I love it. I see that there is a non yet official version of lineageOs rom. If Project Matrixx does not convince me, I will go for this one.

Regarding crDroid, I entered this morning on the telegram group of the marble version of Project matrixx and I read a message from maintainer, mentioning that eventually there will be somebody maintaining cdDroid, https://t.me/KSSRAO_Romverse/48333. I am not 100% how this info is valid, but for me crDroid is still not dead.
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] zonatar:
I think i will give project matrixx a shot, thanks!
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] Josh7777777:
The command I used is "fastboot boot TWRP_xxx.img." When the phone is running the HyperOS, the command does not work. I remember encountering an error message when trying to use a13 and a14 TWRP. I believe I also attempted the command "fastboot flash recovery_ab" when the phone is running MIUI. However, the a14 TWRP cannot be written into the phone.

Yes, I am using TWRP a13 with crDroid 9.13 on the Note 12 Turbo. I have owned many Xiaomi phones (Mix 2, K40, K40s), and none of them have suffered from this problem. I am just curious if there is a bug on my Note 12 or if the bug is within the TWRP img file.
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] Blank504050:
New Official build just released. Check out the official website
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] sm00th4f3:
FOr A14 roms: get the bootable a14 twrp, then fastboot boot into that, flash a14 twrp version on both slots. Your command for that is correct. That is it*
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] Fefsffr:
How do you like this rom?Does the battery last better than miui?Does the phone get hot?Which version is better?
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] mjleetech:
Has anyone updated to the new crdroid 10.2 20240319 update?

I want to know what updates were included in this build.

I checked the web page but it didn't have a link to the changelog.
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] Blank504050:
Here is the changelog from the official site:

===== 19 March, 2024 =====

- Switch to GoogleGki kernel

- Capped charging temperature at 44°c

- Set Brightness slider curve Implementation (Enjoy higher brightness at lower slider positions)

- Ships with Improved Moto Dolby, Dirac, Spatial audio, Dolby Vision, Smooth Display, BCR, Leica Camera & ViPER4AndroidFX

- Fixed sepolicy fingerprint labels

- Optimized Dex flags (faster boot)

- Fixed Battery Drain due to statsd

- Unfortunately widevine is L3

- Miscellaneous other changes to make rom smoother and better
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] mjleetech:
Thanks, looks like my browser adblock was preventing the log from showing.
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] beicuxhaven:
I have installed 9.14. Unfortunately, I forgot to flash the FW A14. That's why the camera doesn't work now. Can I flash the FW later or do I have to completely reinstall it?
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] Blank504050:
9.14 doesn't require A14 fw. You're supposed to use the latest MIUI fw.
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] beicuxhaven:
Can I flash the FW A13 later or do I have to completely reinstall it?
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] Blank504050:
Flashing it later should be fine
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] maxmopp:
Just updated from crDroidAndroid-14.0-20240303-marble-v10.2 to crDroidAndroid-14.0-20240319-marble-v10.2: looks great!

Only thing I miss is kernelsu - I flashed Melt-Kernel-marble-v2.5-ksufix-multi
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] zonatar:
Sorry to bother you but i have a problem with titanium backup, it doesn't see the root even if i have magisk installed and worked, with this i will resolve the problem?

Sorry but i'm some kind of noob of android.
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] RMX3370:
Instead of Titanium Backup use Neobackup it is free and open source alternative to Migrate , Swiftbackup and Titanium Backup it works perfectly with Magisk and KernelSu
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] RMX3370:
Only flaw I found in latest Android 14 build of 19 March is it takes too much time now to full charge device

Earlier device used to get full charged in under 60 minutes
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] cheatzero:
today I flashed/updated to crdroid 9.14 (10/03/24)

coming from crdroid 9.12.

My Poco F5 is rooted, Magisk 26.4 with

Melt Kernel v2.5. Everything worked fine before.

After flashing to the 9.14 Version, I couldn't

charge my akku anymore ...

Is there someone who had the same issue, and can tell me why is this happening?

Finally I solved it by flashing the

Melt Kernel v2.6.

(How can I find out which Xiaomi Firmware Version do I have installed? Cant find it in crdroid ... )
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] esszett:
That's exactly what happened to me yesterday (I also updated from 9.12 to 9.14).

I switched USB debugging off and on again in the developer settings, then it worked. Nevertheless, I have also flashed Melt 2.6 afterwards. Unfortunately, now I have a really bad idle drain (lost 1% in ~2 hours while in flight mode).

I can at least tell you that my baseband version is from September 1, 2023 (yours is from April 21). I'm using 14.0.9.0 EEA/Global.
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] cheatzero:
mh, I only tried change the USB configuration in dev Settings.

I have the same problem with the high battery drain, but I will

watch it a few days maybe it will normalize.

If you'll find any better Kernel please tell me.

Maybe my Firmware Version is 14.0.6.0 or something like that ... Its from

MPSS.DE.2.0-Apr 21 2023, not 2021!

Its the original FW and the Poco F5 isnt that old 😉
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] disconmair:
Hi,

Does anyone know why we cannot disallow location permission on Camera app? It's totally greyed out.

And fast charging doesn't work on crDroid 10.2

And battery drains like hell.
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] rhcnel:
I just unlocked the bootloader and now try to install crdroid. I'm probably missing something here... How do I get the zip file to install after data format? I've always had phones with a micro sd card slot so put the rom file on the sd card so it won't get wiped when I format data.

Edit: Trying to install via twrp

Edit2: got it to work via the adb sideload option in twrp
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] Fefsffr:
ЧАС
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] cheatzero:
how can I install the newest fw a13.

its V14.0.8.0.TMRMIXM (A13)

Already flashed crDroid 9.14...

Is it possible without data loss?

Flash it via twrp?
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] Badger50:
@JYR_RC

Hello again. Since it appears that your kernel source link is still broken, as I informed you of here, your thread has been closed due to GPL non-compliancy.

When you are ready to provide the proper source code, then please report your thread, or PM me so that your thread may be reopened.

Thank you for your cooperation.

-Regards: Badger50
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] SimpleStevie:
CrDroid is hands down the best rom for android IMHO, please can someone bring this to the Poco F5 Pro 🙏 I miss it so much
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] ishaqtkr:
Sorry does this ROM have native call recording like Xiaomi.eu ROM?
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] KarlRaphel:
The ROM is working fine, but there are still some issues:

1. The height of the status bar can become so small in some apps that the digging of the camera obscures the content of the app.

2. Auto-brightness of screen not working properly! it has been fixed in other roms.

3. CAN'T flash nikgapps. I've tried several of the methods discussed previously, to no avail. Since the system partition is read-only, nikgapps will report insufficient space. But I only need to use GCAM, not the play store. So microg works well for me too.

Overall this is a great job, can't wait for the next update!
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] 33005021014:
Feels lil bit jitter and adaptive brightness not works properly, also dark theme mode not works properly when I dim the display the display pixels gets on and off,
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] trutta:
Is there a workaround install Crdroid and gapps? In TWRP i flash crdroid and the gapps, but the gapps are not installed. Any help?
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] coolbuy:
There is: Download this and flash it before installing gapps: https://we.tl/t-Nk7caj27MW
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] Cypher_01:
Interesting, but I'm a little worried about this solution. Can you explain how this works? Does this permanently change the partition sizes?

In the first place, why is this even required? Why can't we flash gapps right away? What does this crDroid release actually do different than other ROMs? (Like crDroid on my Poco F3 supports NikGapps out of the box)
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] trutta:
TWRP say error to flash Crdroid. For me not work.
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] coolbuy:
ok, get the flash file from crdroid website or here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/crdroid/files/marble/9.x/

get the latest firmware: https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/firmware/marble/

Flash firmware using TWRP (I used this one, https://xdaforums.com/t/shared-twrp-by-skkk.4579781/).

Flash Rom

Flash the package to make System RW from the link I shared earlier

Flash Nik's gapps (I am using Full package).
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] JYR_RC:
Thanks,new update patch aug soon
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] coolbuy:
This question you can ask the developer or wait for him to release a version with gapps. As far as I know the system partition is read-only so nothing can be flashed/written into it.
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] Cypher_01:
Will the new update still require workarounds or be compatible with any Gapps package out of the box?
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] SudosuBash:
Can it receive the OTA update normally in China Mainland?I want to know how speed it downloads the OTA updating package.

这个rom在中国大陆可以正常接收到更新吗?我想知道它下载OTA升级包的速度.
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] pernosius5:
I've seen there is a new version of Aug/13 on CrDroid website, is there any chengelog for this one?
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] Valdrio:
updated today by OTA and i got gapps added (i don't want gapps) and lost root.

tried reinstalling twrp folowing thread instruction and now i'm stuck in fast boot, any idea on ho to solve the problem?

edit Managed to boot in twrp by using the bootable twrp image, now it gives error when i try to flash latest crdroid from the site (2023 08 13) had to install pèrevious version (2023 07 15)

edit 2 neede to do a format data -> yes to be able to start older crdroid version
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] Wicksot:
Does the new version contain gapps ? If yes, which ones?
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] Mocopata:
So then is it true if I update vanilla today by OTA I will get the non-vanilla update? This is not what I want, so will await an answer.

Thank you.
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] KarlRaphel:
The updated detection is rapid. However, the download speed of the update package depends on the ISP. For me, using WiFi (by Chinaunicom) can achieve more than 50MB/s, but using cellular networks (by CMCC) is only about 100KB/s.
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] KarlRaphel:
After upgrading to version 8/13, my Telegram and Instagram were unable to connect to the internet, and the Play Store was unable to load content. Have you encountered any similar issues? Perhaps it's because I installed microg in the previous version and upgraded without uninstalling it?
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] KarlRaphel:
It's too strange. After erase the application data, I can log in and use it, but once I close the application and restart it, it won't work anymore.
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] coolbuy:
Honestly, there is something seriously wrong with the gapps package used in the rom. If you are fine with the full package, use niks gapps full package, obviously you will need to flash that system r/w conversion zip I shared earlier in this thread before attempting to flash Niks gapps. Everything works fine.

Best if the dev can provide the vanilla version of the ROM and the additional zip to convert system to R/w to flash gapps or keep it in R/w mode (this is not root access) so we can flash gapps.
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] Cypher_01:
I just realized there is a changelog on the official crDroid website.

The changelog says it's core gapps, but not which release (NikGapps, OpenGapps, ...).

This is the changelog from the official crDroid website, state from today:

Highlights & Device Specific Changes:
Build type: Weekly
Device: Pocophone F5 (MARBLE)
Device maintainer: Javi (JYR_RC)

===== 13-08-2023 =====

- Updated to August 2023 security patches (android-13.0.0_r67)
- Fixed call recording
- Core Gapps Added
- Kernel prebuilt for improved performance and stability (Thanks Klozz Jesus)
- Minor Fixes Dt
- Auto brightnees fixed 99%

===== 16-07-2023 =====

- Initial Build
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] 清风挽:
Now there is oss vendor, can crdroid eat it? I like crdroid very much, and hope that the new version of oss vendor can be arranged
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] Cypher_01:
I don't understand :unsure: What do you want to say?
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] XTrail02:
I purchased my PocoF5 2 weeks ago and now successfully installed this Custom Rom crDroid 9.7. But I can tell you, it's not smooth sailing. I experienced several bootloops in the process. Thankfully, I didn't brick my phone. I'm not well experienced yet on flashing via adb. I'm more familiar with Odin flashing on my previous phones.

I intentionally used this crDroid 9.7 vanilla version because I don't want to use gapps.

I need help on how to successfully install microg on this Rom. Can you give me some instructions on how to do it? Appreciate any help. Thank you.
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] r8h2MfuYkZK6MJ:
Gapps link is sticky is dead. Do i need to grab Gapp? Nik versioan states full version contains pixel launcher wont that rewrite default one provided in CRdroid? Which version of Gapps should I choose. I read the article on XDA on gapps i have links to Open gapps and nik gapps.
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] Anuvadak:
Guys, which gapps can I install with this ROM to get it working correctly?

Is there F2FS support by default in this rom?

Have anyone tried in pair with Melt Kernel instead of original kernel of cr (Sigma-or-whatever)? How is it feels, better or not worth it?
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] Cypher_01:
OK everyone, I have successfully installed crDroid 9.8 (August), latest release as of today, including NikGapps! Here is what I did:

Install latest MIUI V14.0.7.0 EU Fastboot version with included script

Flash TWRP (normal flash version), didn't work

Boot TWRP (boot version), then flash normal flash version via running TWRP (adb push to /tmp -> Install -> Install image)

Flash latest Firmware V14.0.7.0 (maybe not needed)

Flash crDroid v9.8 (2023-08-13)

Re-flash TWRP, as crDroid overwrites TWRP with its own recovery

REBOOT RECOVERY!! Important because slot changed!

Format data

Test boot crDroid -> Google Services and Play Store are present, but no other Google apps

Reboot to TWRP and format data again

Flash NikGapps, didn't work (no space left)

Flashed RO2RW shared by coolbuy, worked, but mounting partitions again failed

Flash NikGapps, didn't work because partition mounting failed

Reboot recovery

Flash NikGapps, worked! It didn't collide in any fashion with the pre-installed core Gapps

Boot crDroid, the setup process looked a bit different than on the first test boot, probably due to newer Gapps version

Btw, I used NikGapps Omni with my own config to exactly select which Google apps I want to flash.

Now it's about to use my Poco F5 with crDroid as my daily driver for a while, let's see if I experience bugs.

hth
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] 清风挽:
Because MIUI open source is incomplete, now all native ROMs have some unsolvable problems, such as Bilibili watching video interruption after continuing to play the screen will be stuck, Douyin seems to have similar problems, now there are new OSS vendors that can solve these problems, COSPA ROM can already be successfully used, EVO new ROM is also in production, CRD will consider making?
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] pernosius5:
Does this ROM already have OTA
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] Cypher_01:
First intermediate results:

KarlRaphel already reportat having problems with Telegram. I also had problems, in my case Internet connection works but calls (both speach and video) didn't work. But today it suddenly works again, looks like this problem was probably not related to crDroid, but was fixed with the recent Telegram app update.

So far everything else works for me. :)(y)
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] pernosius5:
How's your battery life so far?
[Xiaomi Poco F5 / Redmi Note 12 Turbo (China)] r8h2MfuYkZK6MJ:
7 days of testing: 15h screen on time (streaming videogame on 5ghz wifi with h265 decoder) while browsing or doing compute heavy stuff with screen ON or using GPS. 20H playback on mpv 1080p 3500 kbps stereo speaker 20% brightness and 10% volume. tested for 5 1h episode TV show and lost about 25% of battery.

Finally mixed usage with 3.5 h of screen on time phone will last about less than 100 hours.