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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] MAFoElffen:
21501_Springtime

A couple days so far and system seems stable. No problems installing my usual regiment of programs.

Bugs:

- Same problems with Opal Dialer as 21198_1...

- Bluetooth Explorer workarounds worked same as 21198_1 for IGo Stowaway BT Keyboard.

- ??? Can't get custom animated startup splash screens and waves to work with this build... But still could with Josh'es last 21198_1. Rechecked all my REG edits for this-

Added in HKLM\Software\HTC\:

StartupAnimation (New Key)

Then under HKLM\Software\HTC\StartupAnimation:

Enabled (DWord) 1
GIFFile (String) \Windows\HTC.gif
Volume (DWord) 127
WAVFile (String) \Windows\Startup.wav

...and then Advanced Config shows it as a configurable item, so I know the system is seeing it. But when the phone boots, at the placemarker where this "should" come up, it has a tricolor "blink" of about an 1/8" across the screen and then continues to the splash screen... I'm assuming that there may be a few dll's missing from this build(?).

In wm 5.x thru 6.1, this needed oemstartup.dll, AudioBoot0.1.exe and fmodece.dll.

I did a dump on 21198_1 and I didn't see these files there- but it worked with that build. I'm not sure what wm6.5 uses for this... but it seems to be missing from 21501_Springtime. Does someone know which files I need to snatch from 21198_1 to get this work for me?

Not really a necessity, just something I do as "my own" touch and feel--> HTC Sunrise Bootsplash, Animated Splash of Black HTC Logo with the HTC Boot tone, then the particular ROM's Splash Screen.

Sorry to here this... Sent you PM. Hope it helps.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] MAFoElffen:
21501_Springtime

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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Who-m3:
First 6.5 rom for me, doing it on my non-essential Tytn (don't want to have something I'm not familiar with on my primary device). I'm looking at it and I honestly don't see the big deal with 6.5. Course, I use TF3D TP2 (Rhodium) on my Fuze, with Fuzeberry II of course, and I'm very happy with it. I originally didn't like TF3D, so who's to say what'll happen with 6.5 in another week or two. Gonna keep using it as my second line for a few days, see what I notice on Radio, Battery Life, etc. Hopefully, everything will work out well for me.

Looks amazing. I don't like the background out the door, but I know how to change that..and if I didn't, I'd be asking. I'll udpate my sig soon to show "Josh's 6.5" for my Tytn.

-John
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] MAFoElffen:
21501_Springtime

This is a lite build... But upon looking for HTCAnimation.dll, I did find the module Animation.dll which "Is" the device driver for the HTCStartupAnimation AND is present in both 21198_1 and 21501_Springtime... No device files missing for this.

Isn't one of the usual REG declares for Animation.dll(?):

HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\MASD
Animation (String) x_x_x_x

... I can't seem to find the pointers for this file yet in 21501_Springtime Register. Can anyone with 21198_1 still loaded look in their REG and search on the string "Animation" in HKLM? If not, I'll play some more... or if I have to, I'll Reflash 21198_1 and see for myself.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] StefanHou:
Spring Time Response Time

I had this ROM yesterday. It seemed to be stable. However, I noticed in some ciscumstances where it stucked when I press the 'Start' (it just freezed and nothing happened). First time I tought it might be hang, so I Soft reset. However, I tried again sometime, I pressed the 'Start', and then I leave it. After several times, it worked. So I conclude that it is actually worked, just need some more time. It behaved just like the resourced were locked for some background process, and when it is freed , then it worked.

Any of you experienced this?:rolleyes:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Who-m3:
I noticed the same issue when trying to use MS Live once or twice. I gave it about 3 minutes and my live login was completed, it started working like normal again. First time, yeah, I soft reset. Second time, I put the phone down and continued what I was doing. When I was logged in, everything responded right again.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] wyeyip:
Hey josh i've been using ur Manila 2D build 21501 coloured version of yours.

i must say its a great rom..

well.. its so far the best rom i've used.. im a new user of hermes. some problems i do find with the rom..

1. some installation do not run and after soft resetting.. it either freeze on the boot screen or its hard reseted..

2. memory isnt doing too well... original memory would have around 20MB but after using some application n closing it.. its still lower.. around 10-ish.. but da rom is running good..

other than tat.. its by far the best rom i've used.. i like it.. its fast enuf.. but hangs n freezes are scary.. terrible.. mostly if it happens.. da phone will be gone.. hard reset has to be done..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] wyeyip:
Manila 2D build 21501

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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Kabimaus:
Hi Josh and all

does anybody know how to get the transcriber to work in Springtime-ROM ? It is available as an input option but after selecting it, there is a message saying "Cant load resource dll" :(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] xPreSiDenT:
I'm sorry if I'm repeating.... but how do I disable the HTCMenu thing? I found a cab somewhere some time ago but I lost it on pc and cant seem to find it again :S Ive searched the registry but cant find anything that seems to do the job...

PS: Is the .net config utility that was in the last rom available as a cab? been searching for that too but I guess I cant seem to find the correct keywords or something. Any help please?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Would it be possible to have a Manilla 2D Black ?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Alcibiade:
I flashed the Win 6.5 Springtime built 21501

Any chance to have a Black Manilla 2D version of it ?

Or if someone knows how to: how could I install it ? (I'd love to have the choice to switch between manilla 2d and the new Win mo 6.5 interface). Does it need to be cooked in ? (In which case I'd love to try to do so (Havent cooked a ROM since the first Win 6.0 ROMs though...)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Am I the only one to have this problem: when the phone goes to sleep, it becomes just impossible to wake it up (Press the on button, etc... but no reaction..)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] unubtanium:
I am having the same problem as U, but it has not freezed on me for 4-5 days, but as you say Freezes and hangs are NOT good. :(

But still, like this rom so i have learned to live with it. :D Takes me now 10 min to configure it after a hang/hard reset after it has freezed.

(after what i experience with this rom, it looks like something is corrupting the files and therefor the freezez and hangs.)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] carcomp:
Is anyone else having trouble installing HTC X-Button? I've tried doing it from Device Update as well as finding a cab file and installing it that way.

What happens is.. It installs completely, then on phone startup, you see the little icon in the top right and the app works until Manilla2D is loaded. Then the X-Button unloads. Happens every time. I've tried using the AdvancedConfig utility to disable unload of HTC Task Manager (xbutton) and also tried changing the memory threshold of it but to no avail?

Josh! X_button NEEDS to be cooked in!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] utak3r:
there are WAY better apps for that... forget XButton. Look for pBar, for example.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] 3dpcproductions:
Unless you have already followed this step, you don't have to live with hard-resetting your phone!

ALWAYS FLASH OEM ATT ROM BEFORE FLASHING MY ROMS TO PREVENT HARD RESETS!!

At the bottom of post 4 in this thread you will find the above comment, then you will find the link for the OEM ATT rom!

Cheers! :cool:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] unubtanium:
I did follow the steps and flashed the at&t striped rom and then the spring one, but still have the same problem.

Is just freezed on my way to a client today when i was trying to open a email.

After it started up after the freeze it had reset itself again..

Wonder it there is a one small thing i have forgotten when i do the flashing.

cut it short this it what i have done.

1: Flashed the HARDSPL

2: Flashed the AT&t Stripped rom

3: Flashed Spring Rom

IS this right??

Tnx in advance for any help regarding this.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Kabimaus:
Hi Unubtanium,

to my knowledge it is essential to perform a hard-reset right after the ATT-flash and again right after the new Spring-flash. (hard-reset: both display buttons and stylus reset, then R).

I've had similar issues with the device re-setting itself all the time, now since I've done it as described above the problem seems to have vanished...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] utak3r:
exactly so. hard reset is THE MOST IMPORTANT thing to do - even more important than this ATT ROM. Why so? Because hard reset FORMATS your DOC (disk-on-chip)!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] unubtanium:
This might be the small thing i have over looked, Will do this Right NOW, just lets hope the bosses dont see me doing it in work hours.. :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] wyeyip:
Flashing Default rom

Hi there.. i missed out a few posts regarding my problem.

u guys said i shud flash back the default ATT Rom rite?? but im from malaysia, the radio shud be different.. so im flashing the default asia rom.. i do no reflash the hard spl.. i leave it as it is all the time

well i still had those freezes n hang n hard resets..

i didnt know we had to hard reset the device after flashing both default and josh's rom..

i'll be doing so right away..

my last question here.. is it necessary i flash that ATT rom?? cos.. as far as i know.. da radio will be different..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] unubtanium:
All done:

1: Flashed at&t

2: Hard Reset

3: Flashed spring 21501_1

4: Hard Reset

Lets hope this works.. Tnx Kabimaus and utak3r for your help.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Kabimaus:
It did for me :D Keep my fingers crossed for you!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] wyeyip:
-duplicated-
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] wyeyip:
hmm..

I flash original dopodasia rom..

den hard reset..

now flashed plain jane 2G

den hard reset..

trying it out right now.. hope everything works good now..

hmm.. a question.. i actually prefer the manila for 3G build.. the black over then the blue one.. but now im with the blue one.. any chance i can change the appearance etc?? jus the colour will do.. the theme..

and another thing too.. i cant configure my keyboard layout typings.. normally i could do so in advanced config.. but its not included in the rom.. what can i do??

and i jus found out sumthing.. the link of the first post to the plain jane 2G version is incorrect.. it leads the the light build version..

no wonder everything seems empty..

have to flash the 3G version back.. hope it wont cause me problems..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] utak3r:
just install it for yourself...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] carcomp:
Pbar is a nightmare of freakishly un thumb clickable little icons all bunched together. I just want something that closes apps and displays memory.

Any ideas?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] nurkamol:
for exsample QuickMenu 2.8, in this app you can set up close apps or battery&memory in display :)

i'm too using this app for close apps, hibernate, to see battery life & memory in indicator :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] nurkamol:
QuickMenu 2.8

you can get it from in the attachment :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] utak3r:
I second that :)

But... those beautiful-flying-ram-hogging software users don't want to look at such software, as QuickMenu :(

Do you realize yesterday one of the users told me it's a nonsense of gaining 2MB of RAM sacrificing only honeycomb?... :eek:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] wyeyip:
where can i find it.. im a new user.. still new to the PPC world..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] nurkamol:
but QuickMenu in my device gives from memory - is 250 kb
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] utak3r:
http://www.touchxperience.com/en/advanced-configuration-tool/downloads.html

That's what I'm saying... and there IS a way of removing a honeycomb, resulting in 2MB being returned to the pool. But no - users want "beautiful" menu, instead of functional one (I'm using QuickMenu for something like 2 years now?...)

Same goes for all those manila and similar software, which are really limited in functionality.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] wyeyip:
im still having prob with manila 2G...

installer problems.. it freezes...doing soft reset.. it hangs.. had to HR...

im fedup in finding nice roms..

like utak3r said.. quick menu will do for me i guess.. as long as it fine n stable n fast..

anyone has got any idea which is da best n stable 6.1rom..

i know this is a stpid question.. but thanks if anyone can help..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] utak3r:
It is :)

can't help you, as I'm using my own one (and it's polish, so...) but generally try to find some rom based on 21109 build - and without manila and similar stuff - then it will be a killer fast and stable.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] I[E:
check out CRCinAU's roms never had any issues with his latest stable one
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Alcibiade:
LZX compression will get you more...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] wyeyip:
im currently downloading josh's dark winter.. lets see how it works..

btw.. do i have to flash ATT rom everytime before i flash other roms.. cos if i do flash it.. my radio will be changed.. n i wouldnt wanna take the fuss to flash the radio rom..

im jus flashing the official dopodasia rom.. but still im having probs with da roms...

so.. if i wan it stable.. is it a must??
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Hissing Syd:
Everyone should flash an OEM ROM before flashing any of the home-cooked ones on the forum. If you flash the ATT Stripped ROM, it does not contain a radio, so will not change your current radio set up.

I am using the V15 coloured 3g version from Post 1, and it works like a dream. No freezes or resets, and everything works perfectly. My only concern is that my battery seems to drain a bit more quickly than previous ROMs, but I can live with that.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] utak3r:
NO!.... :eek:

You seem to not understand such things as ROM, RAM, storage, page pool and so on... LZX has NOTHING to do about this.

btw, I am using LZX in my ROM.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] unubtanium:
Tnx, it has not freezed on me yet, but here it comes.

First sign of trouble today.

Background on menu gone(changed to solid color)

Tried to start msn, but got error:WLMMessenger cannot be opened....

Did a softrest,and then i got a TrayIcon_Mannermode cannot be opened.

Still can not open MSN.

ARE MY DOC loosing integrety????? :confused:

Or is this software fault?? :mad:

ANYONE??

And thanks in advance for any help regarding this. :o
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] unubtanium:
SH$%T, no it would not even give me service on the mobile net.

Had to hard reset, and service is now back.

Starting to be a "bit" frustrated on my stupid phone.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] feyd2blak:
Rom version numbering

Hi All

Hope someone could help....

1. can anyone explain the Win Mob version numbering of 21198 and 21501 for example and where I could get the kitchens for the latest builds. I have a copy of Josh's 21198 kitchen, which I'm yet to play with...this weekend I hope!! :)..., but was hoping I could get a hold of the 21501 or hight build to start playing with. I'm using Josh's 21501 Springtime build and love it.

2. does anyone know how the icons are associated with the various .exe's? I wanted to have a go at increasing the res of some of the icons Josh to 72x72 uses for the Accessories, Connections, Multimedia, etc...and wanted to test them in my first build??

Thanks in advance...

Chris
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] devil inside:
Hi josh,,,

I have one question for you..

Could you make the ultra light version of your ROM? because my Hermes always blank after soft reset ( because installing some application) because it runs out of memory to boot...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Don't need to be insulting... I may know as much as you do and maybe more for other type of devices... But I am not much into entering into the debate who has the biggest one...

I thought you were talking about free ROM space from Honeycombs, not the memory it consumes... That's it

And yes users prefer beautiful rather than functional. Look at how well the iPhone sells... besides would you rather have a beautiful GF or an ugly but functional one ?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] StefanHou:
Hi cool down my friend, I think nobody wants to insult you...:cool:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] wyeyip:
lol.. im currently usign the dark winter rom.. well its functionable.. but one thing.. from the S2U2.. theres an option for weather.. but its not available in that rom rite??

well.. actually u cant compare a wife with a toy..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] pslocom:
So, I've been using your 21501 build, and am kinda new to this whole custom ROM thing. I love the ROM so far, works great, no problems, except... I really want the standard 6.5 context menus and don't care so much for the ones that are in your ROM. Is there any way I can make it so the regular menus are there?

Hope that makes sense...

-Pat
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Why not ? Some guys marry supermodels... It's in many cases (not all) for teh eyecandy rather than anything else...

But anyway it's not the right place to debate about this, I dont wish to pollute further this thread
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] david161255:
Hiya Josh i've been running your Springtime Wm6.5 rom for aweek now and i have to say well done great job i love very fast and stable got one problem tho the battery don't last just sitting in stand-by without sim 2 days max on a single charge it kinda sucks really but a great OS i've tried dimming the lights down and turning off the bluetooth and wi-fi and still it only lasts for two days on battery

If you can find out why it's doing this or if anyone has the same problem and has found out how to stop it from draining the battery please post it or inbox

i would be very greatful

thank you for your wonderful work josh your the best

David
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] sapphire_pro:
Hi Josh,

congrats to your 21501 build!

Question: Why does your rom has less RAM than the version of TAI?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] joshkoss:
sorry i've been a bit absent...

it's due to the fact that i include a bit extra dll's in there for compatibility purposes.. and he takes allot of time i'm sure to compress all his files individually.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] joshkoss:
go into advanced config. menu dropdown, comm manager, add the 3g selection, then reboot and go into comm manager and turn off 3g and see the difference :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] joshkoss:
ultralight huh?? hmm.. :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Radical_MT:
Not a bad idea Sir.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kreciolboss:
is there posibility of ROM with original WM 6.5 icons ?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] joshkoss:
yes, maybe a ultralite plain build.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] pslocom:
I would love a 6.5 build with the Dialer your using and CRC's device update. I'd make one myself but by the time I figured out how to cook a ROM you could make like 50 I'm sure...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] utak3r:
Insulting?... :eek:

I've just told what I saw, that's all. Just pointing you in a correct direction... stay calm.

Yeah... BUT: not all users. It's that xda-developers is a place where most of the users go in such direction. There were times it was different. And I know places where users still prefer fast, stable and usable ROMs over iphonish stuff.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] wyeyip:
yeah count me in.. i've joined in the fast and stable and usable ROMs. haha... iponish are jus.. too havoc..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Both make sense, both are aceptable.... SOme people want their phone to be iPhonish (Look at how many thredas in this Forum of people trying to copy the iPhone interface), some other go a very different path... Personnaly if I want my phone to look like the iPhone I'd just buy the iPhone, but it is just my personal point of view

All in all what it is about is customizing our device to our own taste, whatever this maybe. Not much judgemment about what the taste can be

Anyway the Hermes' getting old... Nice to customize the ROMs but clearly the device is not far from the max it can give. I am really much looking forward for the Touch Pro 2 to be out (Or an Omnia Pro ?)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] utak3r:
yes, I can see that... although can't understand - as you say, I'd buy iPhone itself... ok, don't argue on that :)

Hmm... I'm looking for something like Kaiser - it has MUCH more RAM and storage than Hermes - yet still it has everything it should have - hardware buttons, dpad, and so on... newer devices are less palmtops anymore :/

However... I'm still using my really old now Himalaya :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] david161255:
thanks josh

yeah i tried that and still it's draining the battery

i'm going to try to disable the titanium customizer to if that helps and i'll post back.

Wonderful work on this rom josh

David
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] MAFoElffen:
6.5 build numbers

I heard from various sources that WM 6.5 is currently following two development paths... So the differing beta build numbers (21198, 21210, 21215 ... 21500, 21501, 21502). But I've also heard that 21502 was leaked through M$, 21210 was a release on a newly relesed HTC branded chinese device while, 21215 was leaked thru HTC.

...And just because it has a "larger" number doesn't seem to mean it's the latest or better. Different things seem to work better than others in these builds. Cooks here (Josh, others at XDA) and elsewhere have been doing an amazing job mixing and matching what works to get a working ROM.

This (above) is all hearsay... And frankly 6.5 not "released" as final yet, so allot of things might change before then. But it sure is fun testing, massaging and playing with them!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] MAFoElffen:
Startup Menu's in 6.5...

Easy... Go to Startup> Settings> Today> Items Tab... Select anything besides "Default" (first item on top) and the Titanium menu turns off and the Standard Menus go back on-to the Today Screen as the items you selected...