yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Other SmartWatches] tancreded:
ok, thanks for that, it doesn't sound like it has viable battery life for a daily driver, which is what i suspected, i've been using these full android watches for quite a few years now, the market leader is probably the kospet optimus 2, which you can easily get 36 hours out of on moderate use, and of course it's priced accordingly

the watch does seem old tech now even for these chinese 2nd/3rd tier watches, which is why the valdus is so cheap, great for tinkering, but not a phone repalcement, it's a shame, because my clear preference in a smartwatch is for a rectangular shape, prioritise the 'smart' side of smatchwatch rather than the 'watch' side

thanks for the info
[Other SmartWatches] ebsbow:
The watch is fine. My phone is a top tier phone and I still consider this watch fine for its use case.

The w89 can be used for 2 days at least. What I just demonstrated was "heavy" use. Not something you do in normally on a watch. I hoped would be able to see that.

Why would it be a phone replacement? It's a tiny screen...

If I go out and leave my phone I just use it for audio, maybe a call or two, check my emails.

But common, you are not going to do serious work on a smartwatch. That's just silly.

I just checked the kospet. It's chunky boy, way to big.
[Other SmartWatches] iOMARoran:
Don't talk about what you don't know
[Other SmartWatches] skdubg:
:ROFLMAO: yes you will know
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
The 1300mah battery reporting is just a simple parameter used during build time.

Charging profile.

It can be customised during build from source, so it does not reflect true battery size.

The battery is a 750mah battery.

This is an old trick for hoping people will think it is the larger capacity.

Don't worry about it though.

For the price it's a reasonable tech toy and if used correctly could last for a full day.
[Other SmartWatches] ebsbow:
Thanks for the info. That is interesting.

The battery does indeed last more then a day with active use, and 4 days with minor use.

No range anxiety :)

The watch also has screws on the back, so when the time comes for an other battery it

will not be an big hassle to replace I guess.
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
The battery replacement is not bad as long as the connector is the same, otherwise it is a pain.

I'm interested in this device because it appears to have a good implementation of the scrolling wheel button. This is worth checking out for sure, from a design perspective.

So I got one now, before the copyright war starts and they disappear 😂😂
[Other SmartWatches] ebsbow:
It's weird. I saw the same design in metal with amoled, no android obviously, for 10 bucks.

That's 10 bucks sale price. So the added cost of a metal case and amoled to this one would

be negligible. Then again, most of these watches are just kind a samples and the design is

somewhat known al over thanks to AAPL.
[Other SmartWatches] eggrollspeedway:
Has anyone figured out how to get into Developer Mode on the DW88? Trying to access USB debugging. But tapping on the Build Number 7 times in System app does nothing. I do have a 4 pin USB cable attached to the watch, so it is being recognized by my Windows 11 computer.
[Other SmartWatches] ebsbow:
I haven't fiddle to much yet, but I did try some apps in the hopes the Dev Setting are hidden. No luck so fare.

Also don't have a cable atm.

Do you have a cable and does the system detect the watch?

You may need these drivers: (also not tested yet)

https://www.bypassfrpfiles.com/2020/01/spd-usb-driver-download/
[Other SmartWatches] eggrollspeedway:
Yes, my computer recognizes the watch when plugged in with a 4 pin usb cable I bought here: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805080634779.html
[Other SmartWatches] she1don:
New idea. Plus good news and bad news.

Risk battery drain but a way of having time (& date) on hand substitute for raise wrist to screen on.

In playing with Tasker, there is the possibility of showing a screen that is all black and overlay with text of the time (& date).

Then I can tap the screen to "destroy the scene" and reveal the Home page.

I must test and compare battery drain with all black screen or is just having the screen always on enough of an issue alone.

I wish I could have live wallpaper but that drains the battery too much.

Further, I can create Apple-like complications with different Tasker Scene elements.

True creative control in designing watch face.

Now for the good news.

I discovered a unrooted means of bypassing the notification inaccessible problem. I am almost there as seen in the attached video.

The bad news is there is something amiss with the app that I hope the developer can recommend a fix.
[Other SmartWatches] she1don:
Well, I'm out.

Watch dropped and the screen no more.

Can't replace since the guy who sold the watch is gone.

The watch is unavailable in the US market. (thanks, Apple 🙁)View attachment 6107170
[Other SmartWatches] she1don:
I am back, baby!

With new and better.

HW Ultra 2 "5G"

(Purchased from AliExpress. Delivered a week ahead of expected.)
[Other SmartWatches] dimitrijexd:
My watch has a square shaped 4 pin connector. Can I use the one that came with my watch or do I need to buy one?
[Other SmartWatches] nomon1:
How did you manage to get the notification bar on the homescreen with the launchers? I tried both Nova and CMM and both refuse to display the notif bar and with CMM the gestures weren't working either. I tried turning on all the settings I could think of and nothing seems to work. I love Nova launcher on my phone and it works normally and displays the notif bar, but if I can't get it to do that on the smartwatch it is a bit useless (since I can't see the battery status, Wifi, etc).

I have CD10, which runs on Android 8.1.0 so I think I should be able to get the same results as you with the launchers but for whatever reason I can't
[Other SmartWatches] she1don:
First off upon unboxing did you not have the notification/status bar appear?

Factory reset your watch and see whether there is any top of the screen bar which shows signal strength and battery status.

If not, then you might be suffering the similar ailment I had with my previous watch. Some fault in the hardware manufacturing or software issue has mis-aligned the display off-center so your notification/status bar is cutoff.

With the previous watch, I had adopted a third party app that showed status -- no notifications though. But given the wallpaper aesthetic I stopped using.

At some point I was going to search for an app that allowed readjusting the display resolution but now do not nee

d to do.
[Other SmartWatches] nomon1:
No, when I first started the watch after unboxing I did not have the notification/status bar. Honestly I didn't even know I was supposed to have it.

I do not believe the display is off-centered because all wallpapers and stuff on the display is shown properly. I have attached a photo of my home screen with the original Android launcher the watch came with. As you can see four icons in the corners are approximately at the same distance from the edges of the watch. If the display was off-centered then two of them would be hidden or cut off.

After checking some video reviews of your newest smartwatch on YT, it seems like it has a slightly different UI than mine. It has some more customization settings, some different preinstalled wallpapers, and some other small details in its software, which is something I hadn't noticed before. So I think that maybe the missing notification bar is a "feature" of my watch and not an error, which sucks.

You said you used some 3rd party app that showed the status bar on your previous watch. Do you by any chance remember the name? So far all the apps I found require developer settings.
[Other SmartWatches] AI LIFE8:
i have the app that can enable dev option usb debugging, if anyone need tell me
[Other SmartWatches] dimitrijexd:
Have you tested it? If so please send it here, it would be very useful in this thread
[Other SmartWatches] AI LIFE8:
i didnt test, but over 5 other people tested, because my watch is running lineage os i have native usb debug

i created another thread with app link included open source

TUTORIAL : how to root and install GSI on S12/S12A SL8541E smartwatch

in this post ill tell you how to root and install custom ROM on S12 and other unisoc SL8541E based smartwatch thanks to scottsecret0104 and haro.jpg for file and guide no tft unlock tool needed, without need to open the watch warning: read the...

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[Other SmartWatches] AI LIFE8:
feel free to report any bug or feature requset if you have any
[Other SmartWatches] dimitrijexd:
Thank you so much! Works wonderfully on my DW89! Only thing is that I don't have the required 4-pin cable (I only have the stock 2-pin one) and if I order one it will arrive very late (in about 2 months), but the other features work excellent! Btw, are you using GSI for LineageOS?
[Other SmartWatches] AI LIFE8:
new v2.2 of app allow enable wifi adb for shizuku self start without 4 pin cable

you can also make your own cable(shown in video TP method)(which is how i did mine)

i am using lineage 15.1 gsi

feature working and not:

[Generic][SL8541e][SC8541e] Information about generic chinese smartwatches with the Spreadtrum / Unisoc SoC

Hi Everyone, I'm thinking of starting a new Android project for the Unisoc/Spreadstrum SoC's for cheap chinese smartwatches. Much like what SlimBoxTV does for cheap chinese STB's running the Amlogic SoC's. But before I commit I wanted to get...

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[Other SmartWatches] AI LIFE8:
shizuku can enable accessbility service incase you dont know
[Other SmartWatches] dimitrijexd:
Yep i know about shizuku, but if i recall well, using wireless debugging is only android 11+? Does this device somehow have it through some engineering mode? Or am I completely wrong and wireless debugging is available natively? (Dont have the watch with me rn so cant test)

Also, I have found a GSI for WearOS which I would like to test out but don't have the watch with me, so try using it in "DSU Sideloader" (a root/shizuku app to load custom gsi once without flashing it): https://sourceforge.net/projects/my...3-11895852-AB-20240701-MysticGSI.zip/download
[Other SmartWatches] dimitrijexd:
Also, after enabling devoptions via adb, can you create a shortcut using qsm (quickshortcutmaker) to quickly launch the devoptions activity?
[Other SmartWatches] AI LIFE8:
adb wifi will work, just follow app instruction, i have made it work and it is tested, just try it and after enable open shizuku it will have adb wifi option even under android 11

DSU is only after android 11

GSI need to be android 8.1 to be flashed

this app is to replace quick shortcut maker, it is always possible to open develop with quickshortcutmaker, but you need an hour to find it, so this app only have few button fix this problem

(people who use quickshortcutmaker is better then people who use hidden settings, because they obviously have frp experience)
[Other SmartWatches] AI LIFE8:
you can use 2 2 pin cable to make 1 4 pin cable(i am serious, i made mine this way, i am also not willing to wait 2 month), you can watch my guide test point video
[Other SmartWatches] dimitrijexd:
Oh ok. Can you tell me if the device is a/b (so i can try to build twrp, although the builder im using is only a9+). Have you tried a newer gsi (as in android version)? Maybe you can use a9? Also tell me about the performance with los a8.1. does it have a delay when waking the screen like stock does? Is there lag from time to time?
[Other SmartWatches] AI LIFE8:
i already say the gsi must be android 8.1

device is aonly i also already said in the guide

the performance is very good, after all this is the best performing smart watch soc in the market now(and its 28nm process!beating all the 5nm mtk and snapdragon!), it dont lag in my use, only downside is open app is very slow, because it only have 2g hardware ram, so it must use zram to operate big apps, and that consume allot more cpu.

imo it is very smooth, def the best watch ive ever used, the stock trebuchat launcher work surprisingly well on a watch, no need to use universal launcher.

View attachment 6126009
[Other SmartWatches] she1don:
Not having the access via broken watch but I believe this to be the app,

Super Status Bar - Customize - Apps on Google Play

Easy brightness control, notification ticker text, gestures, battery bar & more

play.google.com
[Other SmartWatches] she1don:
I like the physical build.

My negatives on the watch is the BB battery drain and not having wireless charging. Of that, I am jealous of the Apple Ultra (2) users.

You have no preferred themes or wallpaper?

What is the highest Android OS you have chosen installing?
[Other SmartWatches] AI LIFE8:
miui control center, but theres no need, just go all out and get a proper system for your watch
[Other SmartWatches] AI LIFE8:
its ok, not bad, plastic is light which is good, just not as waterproof as id like, and lcd

battery last 2 day which is better then real apple watch already, and a apple watch cannot install all iphone apps, this one can

wireless charging??? seriousely??? if it is wireless we will never be able to use usb debugging and flash it,come on.

although i also think the megnetic charger sucks, i want to see a usbc connector on the action button door, and sim card at bottom, itll be perfect, but it still suck less then wireless charger, at least not heat up and can connect to pc

you can use any launcher, if you want to use watch os launcher you can use the universal launcher which have most watch face resource, but i think default launcher is better for my use

i already said only android 8.1 is supported,allot of times
[Other SmartWatches] she1don:
Using a found gif as wallpaper
[Other SmartWatches] she1don:
Oh, I had not considered that.

Good point.

I find the wireless charging attractive because of ease of use e.g. need not position the watch exactly right vs the pins require pin-point precision (pin intended 😆)

and the how readily available wireless chargers are vs the particular 4-pin connector.
[Other SmartWatches] AI LIFE8:
if they use their brain and dont try to copy apple, theyll find the megnetic usbc charging cable head can be rotated 360 without losing connection, but well just use a usbc connector, this thing need to be charged every day, do you expect me have to carry another charger cable with me when i go out,and a usbc connector is cheaper too

the wireless charger is NOT readily available

the bluetooth version of chinese ultra does come with wireless charger,they dont connect to pc

but it take forever to charge

and most importantly : the real applewatch, fake apple watch, and smartphones, all uses different standards!so you still need to bring a munch of cable, usbc is just the way to go, even iphone have one now
[Other SmartWatches] she1don:
My biggest pet peeve is the low battery life of the watch.

I am shocked yours is able to last longer than a day.

I've had two of these and neither one lasted longer than 5-6 hours.

Perhaps can stretch to about 12 if never use the Raise wrist feature which is the biggest battery drain because too sensitive.
[Other SmartWatches] dimitrijexd:
I think i have bought from a bad reseller. Mine is barely 2 hours of battery life, wifi debug and usb debug options are not working, com.android.settings work but redirect me to cut down settings when i click most things, ... On mine the ROM is just too bad. DW89
[Other SmartWatches] AI LIFE8:
on stock os with raise i can use it for 2 days

on gsi i can also use it for 1 day exactly 24h (no raise)

dw89 is best possible, because you can unbrick without taking apart

did you try my app to enable usb debug
[Other SmartWatches] aldermath:
It seems like your app is not able to enable usb debug on DW89 (presumably not unless developer mode is already enabled). I have the same kind of device that does not have the ability to enable developer options normally, and the app just says "device does not support this action" for every option, even though the device should be supported by the app.

Earlier in this thread someone posted a weird method for enabling developer settings that may or may not apply to the DW89:

Valdus DW88/89 / X8 ultra / vwar S8 4G - Android 8.1

Hey guy's, was wondering if anybody knows how or if there is an streamlined version for this or similar device. >(edit: the rom is already very much streamlined) The X8 ultra and vwar S8G seems very similar... but don't know which one is the core...

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Basically, if you reset the device and plug it in to a PC with a 4 pin cable while the setup process is happening, usb debugging is enabled for a few seconds and you can enable developer mode then.

I haven't ordered or made myself a 4-pin cable yet, but I probably will at some point. I'd really rather not go through resetting the device just to test if the process will even work.

Do you know of any other methods to enable developer mode on the DW89 that require less hassle and work specifically for the device?
[Other SmartWatches] dimitrijexd:
i tried, it says device not supported
[Other SmartWatches] aldermath:
Specifically I get this, on this Rom version.
[Other SmartWatches] AI LIFE8:
can you try to search with quickshortcutmaker and tell me the activity name, i will then implement it in the app
[Other SmartWatches] aldermath:
The activity name for the developer options screen or what?
[Other SmartWatches] AI LIFE8:
use quickshortmaker and for settings app scroll to very bottom see if theres any suspicious ones
[Other SmartWatches] aldermath:
There are all sorts of custom settings activities on the device.

com.android.settings.DwEngModeMainActivity is one of the ways to get to the engineering mode screen, but there's not much useful there. com.sprd.engineermode.EnineerModeActivity gets you there directly and there's lots more activities under that app.

There's also com.sprd.settings.SprdUsbSettingsActivity which shows a menu that allows you to select what the device shows as over usb (charge only, MTP, Midi, etc).

There's more custom com.sprd ones spread out across different apps. Is there a way I can export the entire list to a text file so I can read it easier?
[Other SmartWatches] AI LIFE8:
ok, there is a bit of problem in the app, so it cannot launcher engineer mode, fixed in v2.3, v2.4 will also release later with more feature
[Other SmartWatches] aldermath:
There appears to be no change with v2.3.
[Other SmartWatches] mhd 12:
Am kind of looking for the rom for this smartwatch , since even the reseller is not answering any mail , i believe all these watches use the same firmware since they have the same characteristics and same processor , i actually bought modio ultra 4g but the firmware is poor and have many missing things so am kind of trying to echange it
[Other SmartWatches] mhd 12:
I think they all have same specs and processor even the modio watch one
[Other SmartWatches] ebsbow:
You could try to backup the current rom. If that works, that be a step in the right direction.
[Other SmartWatches] mashermack:
Ah here's my people.

Got this small toy as well (X8 ultra). The stock launcher stinks, performance is truly appalling and runs hot, but boy what a joy.

As a first try I uninstalled all the crapware via adb shell but in the process it seems I have stripped out both the power off screen (can't believe it's not managed natively) and somehow my crown also stopped working, so makes me believe is a custom input, same principle applies for the pulse monitor - no other app can make it work.

Tried to replace the stock launcher with a simple launcher, most of the "smartwatch" launchers I have tried didn't really worked that much, so I am using com.ss.squarehome2 which runs somewhat decently.

At the end of the day it is Android 8.1 yes, but what they don't say it is a very stripped down and customised 8.1 build - no notification drawer, no power menu, android settings blocked unless someone jumps through some hoops, play store is blocked because device isn't genuine.

So, having enabled finally usb debugging then rebooting into fastboot looks like it won't run any command and I cannot get any info out of it, I don't know how much feasible is to dump the stock firmware, also I wouldn't know what exactly needs to be done in order to do so.

I believe unisoc devices need to be unlocked with a signed token first as I found something here: https://www.hovatek.com/forum/thread-32287.html - yet to try it though, feel free to have a similar go.

I went through their also decompiled companion app, was trying find an URL or something to download the stock firmware before attempting ruining further, no interesting finds so far.

Please shout if you know a proper launcher and keyboard (something like those ones used on wearos) or if there's a unisoc rom laying around - I haven't found any so far and OSS alternatives do not cover unisoc devices :(
[Other SmartWatches] ebsbow:
I have a Valdus, installed an other launcher, and all the apps I need. So far works just fine. It has notification drawer. Obviously it is a stripped down custom rom. It also seems the valdus has an other rom the the X8, and it doesn't seem to have any bloat/carp ware on it.

To be honesty, I just use it when I don't want to take my big phone, like running etc.

You may have a bad sample if it runs hot out of the box. Hopefully not. Did you check what services/processes that are running in the background that keep you cpu high?

Did you try the app on the first post to dump the rom?(I have not tried it my self.)
[Other SmartWatches] QRA_Cakatua:
Boa tarde senhores, tenho vontade de comprar o x8 ultra com o 4g e NFC , porem diversos vídeos apresenta que não é possível utiliza-lo como método de pagamento , mas se eu tenho o Android que consigo instalar o GOOGLE PAY e tenho o NFC no relógio porque não consigo usar ? , alguém já conseguiu fazer o uso dele ? aqui no Brasil fala que não tem como pagar com esse relógio que o NFC e só para TAG

Good afternoon gentlemen, I want to buy the x8 ultra with 4g and NFC, however several videos show that it is not possible to use it as a payment method, but if I have Android I can install GOOGLE PAY and have NFC on my watch why can't I use it? Has anyone managed to use it yet? here in Brazil it says that there is no way to pay with this watch than the NFC and only for TAG
[Other SmartWatches] mashermack:
No Google pay support I am afraid, the X8 is marked as not genuine/unsafe device, nothing from play store would work by normal means. Doesn't even let it login, I am sure it won't even allow to install Google pay because of lacking hardware/biometrics security
[Other SmartWatches] QRA_Cakatua:
I saw in some videos that you even install Google Pay, but you can't register the card, but there is no update or APK for Google Pay to solve this?
[Other SmartWatches] mashermack:
Ah yes, you can install apks externally and there's no limitation that you can install Google Pay as well via adb command or downloaded it from the internet, but Google Play services do not work.

The device is an Android and misses a lot of stuff from a normal phone android. If someone manages to put WearOS on the device then yes, I think it'll be possible to use it as a bridge from the phone's Google Pay and use the watch NFC to pay.