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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] pierceheart:
doing away with tf3d, how best?

Just got a Fuze, after I started getting TERRIBLE white screen of death on my 8525 for weeks, and hard buttons were not working anymore.

I've done every thing up to this (second time go for reseting at the right time)

Now, frankly, I'm sick of tf3d already, I think.

If you look at my sig, you'll see I'm on an old official ROM -

However I'll update to the new official one, soon.

http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=198&cat=2&dl_id=553

I LIKE not loading all the bloat crap from AT&T, but if I were to update to this ROM, how would I manage to get the official TF3D that comes with it, WITHOUT getting the bloat ware as well?

If tf3d in this official ROM makes me more happy, I may continue to use it, if not, I'll upgrade Mobile Shell to 3.01 and reload Phone Suite 1.3.0, Pocket Plus 4.0.2

That being the case - how best to completely remove tf3d - via uninstall programs, or is it best to simply do a hard reset and interrupt the automatic installation of it?

And one last question: on my 8252, webpages (in IE) were scaled so that they were readable without zooming (pages like livejournal, etc), but in opera, they weren't: if I cvould read the font, I couldn't see the entire block of text.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
@pierceheart

I don't know that new ROM so I'm kinda lost with some of your questions.

If you de-bloat, there are some options:

Look at http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3306321&postcount=349

and download the ATT CABs files which is NOT a ROM just the cabs including Manila to install and uninstall. The new official Manila can be found here in the forum (TF3D and TF3D2 from the Rodium ported by XBOXMOD, can be found in the Dev. and Hacking thread). The procedure should be the same. Flash new ROM hard reset, de-bloat, install Manila.

If you don't like Manila at all (following your sig) stay with the SPB Mobile shell. Installation is easy: De-bloated install and afterwards install SPB (regardless which ROM, old or new, you choose).

You could also jump the gun, install hardSPL and go with a naked ROM.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
All May 28 ROM version requests:

Haven't checked yet for differences and I would need some time to check that (and to flash my perfectly working phone for that - not really looking fwd to so that :eek:). Has anyone some time on hand to do this task and report?

AFAIK it's a new core but not too many dramatic changes in regards of apps. So de-bloating should be the same it's just the list of right apps to be generated.

I would suggest to load XBOXMODs TF3D2 on top (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=493531)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] pierceheart:
Only SLIGHTLY confused, tyguy -

When you say this

and then this

are they the same - "new official Manila" and "TF3D and TF3D2 from the Rhodium ported by XBOXMOD"?

Because when I go to the link, all I'm seeing is a beta, unless the official version is somewhere in the 3400+ posts in there, and not on the first post ...

I liked how you edited your first post in this thread to keep everything up front first.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] DirtAddsHP:
hey guys, just got the fuze. Is this what is suggested to run first? i want to update the firmware and make sure everything is up to speed with the rest of you XDA guys :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
@DirtAddsHP

If you want to upgrade the firmware anyway you can just skip these steps.

Run hardSPL and take the ROM you like from the ROM thread.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] DirtAddsHP:
but i do want to get rid of the bloatware, will a firmware update wipe the phone?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
Sure, a firmware upgarde will wipe the phone. It's like a format + new installation of the OS. Can you check if you have the latest software / Official AT&T ROM on it? I'm just looking into updating this thread but need tons of information to do so.

BTW greetings to the other side of the hill (SFV) hahaha.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hrothnir:
Any registry hacks to lessen bloat?

Are there any registry hacks to remove menu items and bloat from my Fuze?

I'm not quite ready to do a hard reset and remove all bloat--afraid it will take days of work to get what I need functional again on my phone.

I've spent hours browseing, but there is so much to look at.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
Nope there are none!

To de-bloat the only choice you have is a hard-reset followed by the instructions in post #1.

Getting the phone back to work isn't that bad at all, worst case do it the "old man style" by getting a piece of paper simply writing down what you have installed. Backup programs (PIM Backup, Sprite Backup to name just two) are available and hints and tips HOW to restore can be found in this thread. Look into UC and SDCONFIG.TXT (simple syntax) or give Sashimi a try (easy to use).

This thread is anyway almost obsolete since there are new Manila versions (2.1/2.5) out already and I'm not sure if it is worth changing everything around since most of the new guys will swap there ROM anyway within a couple of weeks having a Fuze.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] nwdst:
Question?

Hello tyguy:

I want to thank you for this thread...very informative.

I still want the official rom minus bloat without truly unlocking the phone. From what I have read, once you flash the hardSPL you are truly unlocking the phone which in case a store may not take back your device. I would like to avoid this by using the latest HTC released ROM "HTC FUZE_RUU_Raphael_Cingular_US_5.11.502.2_Radio_Sign_Raphael_52.64c.25.35_1.14.25.35_Ship.exe".

Anyhow, I was wondering what part of your tutorial can still be used for this latest stock rom? Can I still follow it to the "T" or should I read up more on this? I would like to hear your opinion since you seem to have done it all. I apologize if you covered this somewhere before, but there's just too much info on this site it gets confusing what anyone is talking about.

This is what I am thinking:

1. Backup (my phone is new so I don't really have anything I need yet)

2. Flash ROM from HTC site described above

3. Soft reset while booting after stylus config (like the guide says)

4. Use downloaded files that you provided on your links (if you have updated links to newer versions I would really appreciate if you can tell me where they are)

Please let me know if I am out in left field somewhere.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] kbcherry:
Thanks but that didn't work. Seems like it has to be something related to TF3D because when I disable it the start menu and task manager are just fine although the comm manaher is still screwed. Any other suggestions? Thanks again for you help.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
Though the comm mgr is a different story a TSK file is usually taking care of top/bottom bar and highlights aka background color in menues etc.

My comm mgr has a gray though not att background while my background bars in the menues and email etc. are green (default HTC). Can you post a screenshot from for example email? Don't open the email just the email selector. If nothing helps I post my TSK a little later (gotta get s'thing to eat first).
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
Appearance

TouchFlo3D aka Manila 3D has some default colors, so does ATT's version of Manila (I guess orange highlights). These are hard coded into the reg.

To change you have to edit the registry please read here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=442286 at LEAST the first two pages to cover the large start menu as well!!!

To change upper and lower bars / softkey background I made a little appearance pack which you can download (screenshots are included).

I also included RCMod 2.1 from o3blig here in the forum if you really don't like any of the TSKs and Glossy Black Bars.exe for .. guess what GLOSSY BLACK BARS

Appearance content:

RC Mod v.2.1 ENG.CAB

Blue Hue.tsk

Default_ROMeOS.tsk

Default_TiR.tsk

Diamond.tsk

Glossy Black Bars.exe

HTC Black.tsk

myBlue_Void.tsk

WM 6.1 Black.tsk

WM 6.1 Blue.tsk

& screenshots named by the TSK files

Link to the file < --- just click (1.84 MB)

Copy TSK files in Windows dir (can be deleted later if you don't like them)

Glossy Black ... just start the EXE
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] kbcherry:
Thanks for the link. I modified the registry to get rid of the orange in the menu, so that is a definite bonus. The Comm Manager is still with the ATT Background and Orange buttons but I can live with that. Thanks again for th help!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] cliq:
anyone pls help me decide...

if I buy AT&T Fuxe from the US, can I flash a WWE HTC Rom on it and make it fully functional like the HTC Touch Pro? What do I need to do to make this happen after buying the device itself...

thnx
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
@bjluv -- hahahaha no comment on that nickname *chuckle*

Wrong thread!

You need hardSPL to flash a different ROM and security unlock to flash another non Fuze/Raphael radio. You will also need the Fuze Keyboard Fix or do a reg edit since the Fuze has a different keyb layout as the original Raphael/Touch Pro.

Read the Wiki to find out the particular differences between the different devices!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] cliq:
thanks tyguy for the info. I got to read the wiki already and figured what differences are btw d 2.

About the nick, it isnt what u r thinking. Dirty mind you have there ;)

Finally, have to look for someone willing to sell their Fuze. Put yours for sale and let's exchange with cash ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Furious911:
Hey tyguy I 'm really liking this setup so far, I have a few more Q's however, they are not a big deal just trying to create a seamless feel, first, for some reason I still have 1 menu that's still ATTized, my Communications menu still has the ATT background and color scheme.

And the last thing, sometimes randomly when I open and close the keyboard TF3D switches from landscape mode to... TF3D landscape mode but it doesn't rotate back to normal so its like TF3D cutoff landscape mode, heh it would be awesome actually if it fit and was real TF3D so I was wondering is there a way to do that because in essence it works.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] canyaseeme:
what happens if i already setup the phone would i be able to go back and do this ?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
@Furious911

There are some ways around to change that but keep it like it is you may do more harm thann good. Mine is also different from all other screens.

AFAIK this MAY happen with all TF3D installs if you QUICKLY open and close. In most cases open - 2 sec - close will get the screen back to normal. I've seen it with almost every ROM happening.

@canyaseeme

Tough luck... Believe me it's quicker and less stressful to make a backup of your PIM data, hard reset and start from scratch.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] EbolaIvory:
Lemme make this perfectly clear.

I only had what YOU put up installed. Thats it.

Clock wigs out.

Nothing big, Honestly, im done with TF3D anyways. Its a laggy POS that I finally can hate. When Tf2D finds a home on VGA, ill use it. Until then im searching for other front ends that arnt system whores.

Rad guide tho, seriously. If i wasnt unlucky im sure it would work great for me. :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] crazymanfv77:
alright i did what it said it the first post before the 26th update and everything is working fine except the shortcut button for the im clients isn't working any thoughts on why this might be.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
@EbolaIvor

Sad to hear but reading here through the thread it looks like YOU are almost the only one with these issues. BTW I also do like M2D but with a reasonable fast ROM 3D is also nice.

crazymanfv77

Not sure what you mean. With advcfg you can enable email and messaging.

Can you explain better what's not working?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] crazymanfv77:
The shortcut on the keyboard wasn't working for im (aol, yahoo, etc). Don't worry about it though I was able to fix it myself.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] angelbelow:
thx, this was helpful.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] JamesR913:
I am a true Noob to WM and the my fuze(got it today) so far I have been successful at doing everything that was listed in the first post. Got the awesome tf3d interface that was posted there. I also was able to get the glossy black bars on the phone but there are a few question i have.

1. I noticed on the appearance content the screen shots show 3d icons at the top. How do i get these?

2. I have a rainbow (red faded to green) line at the very top of the screen above teh start menu, is this normal?

3. How do i install other 3rd party apps? ( I know its not realted but figured it couldnt hurt to ask)

4. My start menu still has a gray background with orange highlights how do i change that?

5. And lastly is the only way to change the green selected bars to update the registry?

Thanks for your help.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] :
I only know the answer to one of these questions

2. The rainbow bar up top is your battery meter, it starts off at the right (full battery) and slowly flows left as battery life diminishes. It's a more convenient way of seeing how much battery life you have on your phone.

and as eidolen said, "If for some reason you don't want it just delete, (or move) the "BatteryLevel.lnk" from your \Windows\Startup folder. You could move it to your programs folder and just start it when needed as well or delete it all together. It's listed under remove programs for easy removal."
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] JamesR913:
I figured out question 3 so disregard that one please.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] JamesR913:
On your home screen touch your small clock and slide down you will get the flip clock back
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
These are custom icons (caneros patched task bar) look at the Diamond threads how to get them.

You may have to install sdkcerts first, all this info is in one thread.

Just install the cabs you like. They will show up under "programs" and can be selected under the program tab under TF3D

If you scroll a page or two back you will find the answer. You MUST edit the reg to change.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] JamesR913:
I have the HTC black.tsk and its not working I still have the hideous grey and orange start menu.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] angelbelow:
so the google maps provided will be free of charge from the att service right? thats awesome.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
Google maps is free but better have a data plan (PDA personal or so) since google will download the maps through the interent. It'll also support GPS and directions though not voice guided.

Gray/orange start menu

That's a reg hack ...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] JamesR913:
I am learning not to be afraid of the reg hacks cause all I have to do is take note of what i change and chang it back or hard reset.

My new question is about the different .cabs on here. I have my fuze set up according to the first post (no bloatware reset). So far all I have done is install a few 3rd party apps(lightsaber, Carnero's Patched TaskBar etc.). I also have downloaded onto my PC a few .cabs (BlueFocusLanscapeManila) but am not sure of the effect (or is it affect:)) that the might have on the fuze's stability. Any help would be appreciated.

I also am having a problem with the screen when in landscape mode, the letters i type dont show up until i rotate back. Is this a common problem?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] BASSMANBOB:
Thank you for this tutorial....will be using it as soon as im eligible for my Fuze upgrade next month!!!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
Keyboard delay

Happens from time to time even with the fastest ROM.

Slide open and wait a sec or two. If this doesn't help look for "rr keyboard speed encrease" in the Kaiser section. Helped me a lot.

Sorry too much hassle to attach right now for me since I'm on Edge most of the time so this wouldn't be fun.

Did you read what to hack for different colors? A reg editor is in my first post file included. If you already did it please post results (pictures and used codes.).

Edit:

Found some H and tried ... thus see attached

PS This phone rocks - LOL

Landscape theme

Be careful with some themes esp. landscape themes. Most don't work properly. Give it a little bit more time to work fully and error free.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] JamesR913:
Thanks for the help. I went ahead and bit the bullet and put a custom rom on last night. I found a really good tutorial on here that made it almost me(dummy)-proof.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] JamesR913:
One more question for you tyguy. There are some items in the @essentials>Tools folder that I would like to install but am not sure on there compatibility. I have the v1.51 B-20759.1.4.2 [FINAL] | conFUZEd AT&T EDITION Rom installed. Your help is appreciated
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] adeltaY:
Hey, i tried this and its great, just one problem. After TF3D is loaded, there is a small bar of colour on between the screen and the top Green Bar which has the start menu. This is kinda annoying, ill get a screenie to show u.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] BPB21:
I think you're referring to the battery meter. It's red on one end, green on the other, and really thin at the top of the screen. I rather like it since it shows more exactly how much battery charge you have left (and how much you've got to go when recharging). There's probably a way to get rid of it if it bugs you.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ilordvader:
where can i get that battery bar for Fuze ?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] JamesR913:
Any reason for the particular order?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Z_Tahir1:
Hey I did the whole thing as you said, tis great! No AT&T stuff, but it actually seems to be running a little slower than before!

I'm going to install that rr keyboard thing right now, but I used the exact instructions given in your original post. Also, I don't seem to be receiving data connections (I don't live in a 3g area and get like 2 bars in my home, that may be why) and I'm not getting my phone to get set up with the wifi, although that might not be a result of your guide.

Any recommendations to keep things as speedy as possible? And any tips? I also don't really like the texting, I love the keyboard, but if I go to the main texting area on touch flo and see a text and hit reply, sometimes it still just goes to new, and when i i hit reply and tilt the phone side ways and slide out hte keyboard, it takes a few seconds, then straight up just goes to the main menu when you nromally slide out the keyboard...:|

And for the phone's camera, is flash actually just a beaming consistant light that gets even brighter when it takes the pic? Kinda stupid if you ask me...

Otherwise this is an awesome phone, just got it and I used to have a Diamond, typing on it was not great, so this is such a huge improvement, I don't even care about the size.

I also installed Skyfire and Google Maps, thanks for including those.

But yeah, teh phoen is acting strange. I used to have an HTC Diamond and on that it would freeze until I updated the ROM when the more stable one with the 850mhz band came out, then it worked very efficiently...this phone is awesome but its giving me a nightmare right now.

Any help would be really appreciated, thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] BPB21:
Battery Bar

That's 06_TNT Battery Bar in @essentials\Tools\ in the download on the first post in this thread. You could download the whole package and just install that one cab. Don't know what it shows up as under "remove programs", to answer another post on here.

BTW - that RR_Keyboard cab does seem to help; good stuff.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] adeltaY:
OK thanx, i did a hard reset and didn't install one of the programs and its gone now so im good.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] GfromNY:
No "3G" showing in top bar?

Hey, first of all, everyone has already said this, but it bears repeating:

Awesome job on this guide. I'm pretty much a noob with this stuff and I followed the steps exactly as you laid them out, and everything worked out perfectly the first time. The new UI looks fantastic and the overall the operation seems smoother and somewhat faster.

I only have one question, and I apologize if it has already been addressed and if it's a rookie question:

On the top bar, I now have an "H" showing where it previously said "3G". I have the 3G enabled in the "communications" section of "settings". I know that I previously had 3G service here in my apartment. Does the "H" mean that I am no longer getting the full speeds and is there another setting I should look at to enable 3G?

Thanks!

-G.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] GfromNY:
NM. I figured it out.

HSDPA = 3G
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
Falling behind here, sorry on the road and currently in a train from NYC to DC.

TNT topBatteryBar

Is in my package, can be installed as single prog AND uninstalled, just look under settings/system/remove programs for TNT

Installation order

I like to get stuff in the order I like not purely by program name. The numbering is kinda "what worked best for me" and I like to put the stuff which req. reboots at the end of the installation. I flashed too many ROMs on my old Kaiser ... so ordering worked for me. If you don't like it just rename and remove the numbers.

H E and 3G

Though this one is marked as solved just point Opera or PIE to http://iphonespeedtest.com to check the connection speed.

Note:

If you use Opera Mini or Skyfire the result does NOT reflect your true speed because there

is an imaging server in-between.

Nite 4 now

Ty
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] :
Sup Tyguy, thanks for this awesome setup guide. Love the Diamond look and programs.

Just one thing: Before I used your guide, the "Mute when Flip down" feature worked fine. Now it doesn't do it. Solution?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
Check the settings in adv config and/or diamond tweaks. Soft reset after change.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
Can you explain "strange" a little better??? Details please!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] adeltaY:
Is there any way to fix the fact that the Comm Manager is still ATT branded? :confused:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
CommMgr

No, at least not an easy one even I gave up.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] rhinoskin:
Wigged out Manilla

tyguy,

Thanks for all of this. For me, it wasn't a technical barrier to running cooked roms, I just don't have a ton of time to install each one - so this is a good alternative for me.

ONE PROBLEM!

Like a previous poster, I followed the directions to the letter, but after installing the posted "all tabs background" module, and then setting a background I got T-Mobile as the carrier and the wigged out clock.

I don't imagine this is due to your setup, but likely a issue of the manilla install or the background module. Can you point me in any direction for this issue?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
Background all tabs

If you look around in the Raphael and Diamond threads, there are a lot of comments written on this subject. I guess you simply installed a wrong cab or copied the wrong two files into the windows directory.

If I recall right (Manila version #) the attached file should do it.

Disable TouchFlo in "Today"

Soft reset or power off/on

Try first to uninstall the cab you installed and soft reset

Enable TouchFlo in Today

Soft reset

If this doesn't work reinstall Manila from my pack (unfort. all apps under the prg tab and quick dials under people will be gone).

Again disable in Today

Soft reset

Install cab

Enable in Today and soft reset...

Let us know!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ptrd:
Thanks for the tutorial. Just bought this phone and really hated At&T's crap.

The tutorial worked wonderfully. I guess I will try to learn more about modding the phone later as this is a good start.

One question, I have no data plan (nor do I intend to get one) I just use the wifi at home to grab important stuff.

Is there anyway to disable allowing for internet connections unless I'm on wifi? I.E the weather page, if you click more it will automatically go to opera. I don't want this unless I'm at home using wifi.

Thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] :
I called up AT&T customer service and asked them to disable the internet connection on my phone. Now, it won't connect with AT&T data, but I can still use the internet and such with Wifi.