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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jmckeejr:
Reporting in

Trying 1.10rc10, seems to be getting better and better. I'm glad I dont have to add quickmenu to the exclusion list manually anymore.

One thing I have noticed wih all builds is that if I close fingermenu using the "close fingermenu" link I cant get quickmenu to open back up unless I restart fingermenu. I do not get this problem when I close through the config window. This is not a big deal for me, but thought I would give you this information.

The new graphics for dpad selection are better than the original circles, but is there a way that dpad selection could be the same as when you select with finger (like Resco Explorer)? I dont think I need a different graphic to tell me whether im using dpad or finger. This could also reduce the size of the app(not much, but every bit helps)

One more suggestion for future use: Dpad repeat, so when scrolling with dpad there is no need to keep pressing the button. It can sometimes take longer if you need to scroll down a long list.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Naaf:
Just installed rc10, and its really great. No transparency issue in manilla2d anymore! Good work!

Idea: To get back from the submenu, you can swipe with your finger from the right side to the left of the screen. Why not do this to close the fingermenu itself too? I hope you understand my idea.

Greetz
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] francarl:
completely. Really good idea, thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chas123:
The latest version seems more stable when a menu selection is pressed. Does anyone know what the exe or dll for the start menu is. I want to add it to the exclusion list to see if programs and settings will work in the start menu again.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] curious george:
I have a bug and a possible solution.

When selecting an item in the menu pop I often have to make a lot of attempts to get the selection to take. I don't know if the delay is to long or to short but it is one or the other.

2 possible fixes.

1 (short term fix) the ability for the user to turn the kinetic scrolling off and just use the supplied up/down buttons with in the program.

2 create a delay or multi tap setting do move between desired use of scrolling versus selecting. I know that trubert, subpro, tene etc have faced this issue in the past with their scrolling programs so they may be a great source of information.

If I have missed this being said or suggested or the fix please forgive me and direct me. I search the thread using "menu select".

CG
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Girvo:
Now, I know you possibly have better items to attend to, but what about that 1px black border around the menu that I talked about before? It'd be awesome and make it fit in with the Omnia's theme a lot better :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bogdatov:
v1.10rc10 on HTC HD (WM61.1 WVGA 480x800)

Overall - great app.

One thing ... my MemMaid shows that FingerMenu consumes about 21M of memory (RAM). Is that normal ? After soft-reset it was about 5M, but keeps growing. Is there a memory leak or something ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _4saken_:
speed is greatly improving with latest beta, but the selecting problem still exists. I can barely select menu items with my thumb on my diamond but when I use the stylus it works just fine. allot of touch oriented programs, including the ones from htc can differ between finger and stylus touch. did you look into that yet?

I guess it has something to do with the pressure the touchscreen is reporting back.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] achmed20:
they (stylus/thumb) dont realy differ.

the problem is this: using ur thumb never gives u an exact point. actualy using ur thumb does draw a little line which can be interpreted liek a move/swipe wuite easely.

just open notepad and place ur thumb und the screen (draw mode) the ull see what i mean.

btw, this "bug" annoys me also quiete heavy. especialy when i drive my car its close to impossible to actualy click something.

@francarl

not sure how easy it is, but recording the length of the "touch" could help here.

so that everything which is lower then a 10 pixel movement = click!?

or everything which is inside of a button height (aprox. 50pixel) = a click.

left/right movement shouldnt matter anyway
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] francarl:
yes you're right. Also other beta testers point out this bug introduced with rc10. Just resolved in rc11. Thank you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lesscro:
RC10... ram consuption... D-pad Right doesn't work anymore (RC9 works)...

transparency problem occured sometimes solved... Scrolling is good...

better integration in some apps excluded before 1.09... :eek:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aussiebum:
offtopic - looks like Microsoft is copying you Francesco, because the new WinMo 6.5 menus look remarkably like yours! :)

See my other post...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=3307984#post3307984
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DonKinan:
very nice app

hi great application appreciate your hard work.

there,s a bug when changing from device to storage card or vise versa then it doesn,t work you have to click up... to go back

iam using v 1.09....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lastnikita:
Feature requests:

Configure items height, and scrollbuttons height.

(optional) See the menu/submenu title above its items, in different colors (and smaller).

I like that it won't take the whole width of the screen.

Would be great, especially if the up/down buttons could be resized and made 'long-tappable', ie keep scrolling while we keep them down.

In addition I'd like to be able to close FM by clicking in its background, too (outside the menu area)

Great job :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] skulk3r:
Help! Am I doing something wrong?

I just bought the Touch HD (my first WinMo device) and I've just been updating and trying to play around with different apps and stuff..

...for some reason FingerMenu (v1.09) keeps crashing on me.

I did a hard reset once and it worked for a little while, but then it started playing up again.

I am downloading the file and placing it in my storage card and running the install file from my Touch HD. I usually reset the device after installation (not necessary as I understand) and then I try and use it, but it just keeps crashing on me...

...any ideas as to why this is and what I can do to fix it?

Any help will be very much appreciated!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] francarl:
wait for new version 1.10....soon...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jmckeejr:
Reporting in

Ok, so trying RC11 now. So glad you made the dpad selection more like finger selected. It really doesn't need to be another color IMHO, but it doesn't matter because I have been making a new skin for each release(its hard to keep up with you). Maybe you could use the selection.png also for dpad.png, or just have selection.png that that works for both without need for 2.

Using right dpad and left dpad working great for opening submenus and closing. AWESOME!!

One thing I would like to see in a future release is utilizing repeat function of the dpad. I did mention this in previous post, but thought I would bring it back up.

Haven't had it installed long enough to report any bugs, but will let you know if I come across any.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] skulk3r:
okay...I can't wait!

Most other people don't appear to have problems with the Touch HD...so I find it a bit strange that mine doesn't work.

Hopefully 1.10 will fix that for me....WinMo menus are so ugly =P
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
francarl here are the extracted images from the htc album application with a couple of screenshots. for your consideration
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sean D.:
Minor Bug?

There are some menu items, that have secondary menus (the arrow to pointing to the right) that I can not access.

Also, when I am in the standard pictures & videos app, I can not change folders from the "My Pictures" button in the upper left corner.

I also get major issues when using it withing Google Maps.

Otherwise, this is just what I've been wanting. Keep up the good work!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] FatBoyExtraordinaire:
Alright, been wanting to test out the beta for a little bit before I commented. Been a couple of days using version RC10 (just got 11 but haven't had a chance to try it) and I must say that this version is excellent in every way but 1. I mean it loads way faster than 9, scrolls smoothly, all the sub menus now work, finger swipe from right to left to go back works flawlessly, d-pad works great. Hell I even think the graphics are a bit smoother (although that may just be my imagination). However, my only gripe, bug, complaint, however you want to call it is it's memory consumption. While v.9 would use like 500kb of memory while using, this RC started out using 5MB and seemed to bleed memory throughout the day. By the time I got off of work, FingerMenu was using 11MB and basically killed my phone because I couldn't use any other function until I killed FM. So all I have to say is eliminate the memory consumption/bleed and this thing will be pretty damn perfect.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] francarl:
new version v1.10 posted

New version posted.

Thanks to all beta testers!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] spupuz:
Hi francesco i'm italian too and i do too work on a big it company but i do not code i'm a system engineer and i'm from Milan.

i do have an annoying bug in copy and paste
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] francarl:
good! have you installed latest version 1.10?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] HJ200:
WVGA Green HTC skin

I couldn't get the green skin from CRACING working on my Touch HD, so I made the skin replacements myself. (WVGA only)

Ignore this if it's done before, I haven't read all 497 posts :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] spupuz:
yeah i did installed the last version and i do have ab eten x500+ glofiish with winmo 6.1
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] glaucos:
V 1.10 works perfectly on my Eten X800, but I have a request for a future version: Is there the possibility to notify me that the menu is longer than the screen when I set the option to disable up/down button?

Something like in the second picture:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] schaze:
Great improvement from v1.09 to 1.10! very impressive.

Thanks a lot!

/Tommi
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SaBo:
Excellent piece of software.

One of the most valuable additions on my device.

And now usuable in even more application using my scroll wheel.

Thanks a lot

Sascha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] schaze:
Hi HJ200, thanks a lot for the images! I combined them with the htc-menu.zip files from 'aliumalik' and now its is perfect! :)

Perhaps someone coiuld make a cab out of those for a 'htc-skin'.

Best regards,

Tommi
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lennie:
great work, but I was thinking if the rows could be a bit smaller so more menu items could fit in screen (I have vga).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Karlson2k:
Again a few suggestion:

* Add transition to submenu. It should looks good if main menu smooth shifted to left side and submenu appears on the right side.

* Add transition on return to parent menu.

* Back should be called by "finger from left to right". An example: press "up" key means that you go to the top of list. Finger scroll "from top to bottom" means scroll to the top. So left key should be equivalent to finger scroll “from left to right”.

* If all menu fits to one screen, moving finger on the screen could highlight menu item under finger. On finger relese current highlighted item should be executed.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] furry:
V1.10 working beautifully on my Sprint Touch :)

D-pad is nice, works good. 99% apps working!

One suggestion, add a "back" softkey on the left where you have the "close" on the right softkey. This would be for the submenus

One of the best apps lately, must have for a WinMo device!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sir.B:
1.10 = AWESOME!

one thing on my Touch HD the scroll speed doesn't seem to change

i set it to 50 and it's still slow scroll, what should i check?

thank you for this gem.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
@francarl:

ciao carlo,

I don't know why but the lastest version still doesn't work on my ipaq 914c (ita)

just report,

hope I can use it on my device someday:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] -Vulture-:
Well, i second that, WQVGA Samsung Omnia here. The items are really big enough, the could be a bit smaller and you could still hit them with ease...

Anyway, really great piece of software!:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Leonick:
Great improvement from 1.9, 1.9 totally bugged out on me :p

Now it works in everything I use it seems, great work! because in my opinion this is better than what we have seen for the new menus of WM6.5

Now we just "need" those hacked message boxes, maybe you could tackle the error/alert boxes too? Really just looking at what you've done maybe you could try giving more parts of WM some usability updates and face lifts :)

Hmm maybe you could add in a way to decide how big every item in the list? And a way to set the size for the top and bottom arrows, right now ill just leave them off they take to much space specially considering I can just scroll by swiping up or down
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] atown305:
Freezes on my Samsung Epix

Every once in a while it would freeze my samsung epix then i have to soft restart
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] *_Touch_HD_*:
@francarl 1.10 works perfect
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JNGold:
+1. 1.10 now works in many apps that prior versions did not. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] htctoucher:
this app is simply amazing!

exactly what should have been implemented in my htc touch from the start!

i am definitely going to skin this :D

thanks a lot v1.10 works great

htctoucher

edit: actually found one problem.. copypaste doesnt work!

other than that.. great app!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aussiebum:
Works good on the X1 - much faster than 1.09.

Issues / Requests:

* For some reason, when using Fdcsoft's / Dotfred's Task Manager 3.1, when selecting a app the terminate, the Task Manager automatically gets minimised when the popup confirmation dialog comes up when using FingerMenu?

* v1.10 seems to be a huge battery drain - I've only had it on for about 4 hrs (no calls or anything) and my X1's already down to 60% battery....

* An option to have a skinny "Back Arrow" for sub menus would be more user friendly for ppl who don't know that you actually need to swipe left to go back

* An option to close a submenu OR fingermenu by tapping on the background would be great too

* Option to turn off animations for performance freaks / ppl with slow PPCs

* Finally, even more speed would be nice :)

Keep up the good work! Going to donate after I get home :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Leonick:
Strange, I've noticed no such thing, my KS20 has a quite weak battery, and even though I haven't used S2U2 since LG sent me my replacement battery as the first one was defect, i am telling you this dosent drain 1/10 as much power as S2U2, probably because fingermenu does just about nothing when you arnt using the menus.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] swyecso:
Great app! I created a blackberry theme for my arrows
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aussiebum:
Oh yeah, found another bug:

When in the File Explorer, bringing up the "right click" menus (ie. the menus that comes up when you long press on a file) brings up a blank FingerMenu which subsequently crashes and kills FingerMenu. Only seems to happen to files with looong names (see screenshot).

Confirmed - it seems if the file name is ~approx 50 chars (eg. "GreenButton-iDialer-StorageCard.cab"), long-pressing that file in File Explorer kills FingerMenu 1.10. Short filenames (eg. GreenButton.cab) don't cause such an issue

I have File Explorer Extension installed, not sure if this is causing the issue with FingerMenu 1.10 though....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aussiebum:
I'll double check to confirm the issue with battery drain. I'm using S2U2 1.45 and with teh Power Save flag On I have no issues with power drain for that app at all now.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jiles:
yah, i've got the same one

and another one: on dark backgrounds first small separator still looks like it was painted twice.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] htctoucher:
new skin!

hey everyone!

to show my appreciation for francarl's amazing app, I have skinned it as part of my gloss Windows Mobile theme here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=471649

its attached on post 2 in the above thread as a cab (installs the skin and the registry keys needed to make it look right)

looks like this:

i skinned:

selector buttons (dpad/selection)

cleaned up the selector bubble and changed the color slightly

changed the checked icon to a bubble to match the selection bubble

changed the line color

made the background off-white

changed the font to a deep, deep blue (almost black, but blue :D)

i didnt skin the up and down arrow buttons, because they are kind of pointless and just take up space ;)! so i also disabled them with the cab (you can reenable them if you want.. they just arent skinned!)

hope you guys like it!

enjoy

htctoucher
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] francarl:
I confirm that it's a bug...menu item text longer than 32 characters can cause fingermenu crash. Sorry, i'll fix in next release.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] francarl:
really amazing work! thank you so much.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aussiebum:
Thanks! Oh, found another Bug/Incompatibility:

SmileySMS popup notification menus *does* get skinned correctly BUT when you attempt to use any of the buttons (eg. touching "Mark Read", "Dismiss", etc) they don't actually do anything. Excluding "tmail.exe" reverts it back to original behaviour (and works, of course).

Oh, just donated btw :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Star-Lite:
I have a problem with fingermenu, it's boken for me.

I'm using RevRom v1 (WM 6.1) and FM 1.08 worked fine up till a point where after a hanging wm is stopped working.

Even after a hardreset it still reuses to work.

Whenever I start FM and try to open a menu, the screen turns into the background color/transpaency, but nothing comes up on the screen, tapping the bottom left softkey doesn't bring up the app as well. I tried to uninstal, softreset and reinstall it, but it doesn't seem to be coming back.

Changing the settings (background color etc) does influence the program so it can access the settings. It just doesn't work anymore.

I really like FM and would really want it back :(

Anyone recognizes these symptoms and could give me a hint on how to solve it?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] francarl:
thank you! are you still experiencing battery drain?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] francarl:
what version are you using?

if you not have installed v1.10, please uninstall old version, REBOOT, check if FingerMenu is really uninstalled and is not executing in background, then install latest version. Please, keep me informed. Thank you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Star-Lite:
I've uninstalled, rebooted, installed V1.10, rebooted an still nothing.

Actually even less. the background doesn't even changes color now. The button stays in a pressed state (highlighted) and nothing happens at all. If I press the other button, that one gets presed (highlighted) as well, but still nothing happens. no menu, nothing.

I t might have to do with something left from an old bugged installation. What exactly does FM install apart from the FingerMenu folder in program files and the reg key in HKLM/software/fingermenu?

Are there any known programs that bug with it that could cause this?

The only non standard background programs that are running atm are RSSHub & dr YAR Bluetooth.

FM has worked on this rom before, so I doubt it's a ROM issue.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Star-Lite:
I played around with the settings and the background (transparent or not) is working now.

I added all running programs to the exclude list, but that didn't help either :(

I found a small bug as well in the process: if you press the 'refresh' button @ config screen, all running are added t the dropdown, but it isn't cleared before that, so every time you press it another double item is added to it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] abdelamine:
font size

how can i change the font size

or change the size of the menu
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Leonick:
Well i sure drains more than nothing :p and just turning of the display works quite well for me now when i dont use WMP any more, turning of the display while WMP plays music stops it :p

Also... it just stopped working for me... any menu I open result is either the background or the faded out background without any menu items, i tried uninstalling, totally uninstalled deleted the folder too and reinstalled, didnt help...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Star-Lite:
Thats exactly the same problem I am having.

What device/ROM are you using?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] -Vulture-:
Hey francarl!

Seems that i, after a long and hard search, found a bug in 1.10 ;) . Please take a look at those two screenshots. They are made in Resco Explorer. The first one shows the menu when i press "menu" down right in Resco Explorer. Now when i press "Optionen" there, the new menu pops up. But take a look at the background, the old menu is still visible and you cant really see the difference between old and new! Ive drawn a red line to separate the old from the new one. Seems like the background is not "redrawn", cause it should be transparent, but obviously it still shows the old menu.

P.S. Same effect in other sub menus, so its not restricted to Resco Explorer.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] francarl:
this happens because you have disabled transparency (you did it, is it?). Note that in this new version, due to performance improvement and specially after transparency problem pointed out by many users, background is not refreshed when opening submenus.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Leonick:
LG KS20, official rom v10c
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] -Vulture-:
Ha, you got me there. Transparency was disabled. But i noticed that the "darker background" in fingermenu works right in 1.10 (i had issues in 1.09 before), so ill use this right now. Thanks for your help!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tatnai:
So where are we on the possible battery drain issue? Does it exist, does it not exist? If it exists, will it be fixed with the next RC?

I've been following this thread for a couple of days, and waiting to install until there is something more definitive on this. Thanks guys.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] minglee:
I encountred battery drain issue. It dropped by 10% in 30mins with my xperia in idle state and screen off.

I already uninstalled it.

EDIT: Fixed. Re-installed and did a dummy save of configuration file.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] francarl:
If you want to report a huge problem as battery drain, please give proofs more stronger then "It dropped by 10% in 30mins with my xperia in idle state and screen off". Have you checked CPU & memory consumption for that period? You should also use wince remote spy to check if there are message processed by fingermenu app when it's idle. There a lot of user that don't have the problem of battery drain.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lastnikita:
I have transparency enabled, and it does the same even with last build, so I don't understand, is it mean to stay like this ? I also suggested to add a sub-menu title (shouldn't 'scroll') to improve visibility :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Georgeous2008:
so far works fine on my Blackstone: much faster, more compatible and more accurate than version 1.09 ...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pocketwarrior:
I have try on the fly on XPERIA ... now it's work ;)

I need more time to try.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chas123:
Is there any way to change the color of the selected bar from blue to something else?