yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] DaOldMan:
Well it's the other way around. This xda thread has just 4 pages and very few participants. This S23U is from Vietnam. My wives S23+ is from Vietnam too and I from my few checks, seems also fine (I will check it more). So no garbage, no bananagate and no problem for most people I guess. Otherwise I expect this thread to explode, which doesn't happen. Just few people responding to themselves most of the time. I would change the device and probably get a normal working one instead.

Cheers.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] miro1360:
@DaOldMan That is just not true. Regular people don't care because it is not so serious problem for many. People who are serious about photography will know how to work with this problem, so again no issue. In addition, Samsung's attitude towards repairing these mobiles is more discouraging than satisfactory. I rather think that your friend took the photo wrong. In addition, it doesn't even contain Exif information, so it can be a photo from any mobile phone or it can be a cut-out. Read the comment under this video, there is an answer from the author that he also has the problem and knows about it, but he solves it with a workaround.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] DaOldMan:
Sorry about the exif, but it was stripped by the XDA forum (I now even see they compressed the image!). In the picture I uploaded there is FULL exif information. Please download the original file from my dropbox:

Download Original Picture with Exif here please

This should not touch any exif information.

I am not trying to protect Samsung. In fact I left Samsung for few years because of their behaviour. I am a long time developer on the Note 3, so I remember their memory chip problems that caused Sleep of Death they never acknowledged. And tons of bugs we repaired in the roms :) . So I know that if you have a problem like this - you are on your own. But when someone here has a S23 Ultra and tries to show BananaGate, and I know he is the only guy on earth (maybe there is 1 more) complaining I know something fishy is going on. So I except there is may be a problem on the S23/S23+ camera array but problably none on the Ultra array. As I have a S23 Plus at home I will also check it for the problem. For now, it seems to work just fine. It's macro capabilities are not good and it has optic aberation that are expected with this kind of a setup.

Writing that a professional phtographer "took this picture wrong" is a bit lame, mate. You can see he made real effort to check his camera for the problem. And he knows photography very, very well. So no, he took the photo just right. Check the exif and tell us what's wrong.

Cheers.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] miro1360:
@DaOldMan I don't want to touch your friend, but he sent you the picture from the ultrawide camera and he also had the Focus enhancement feature turned on ... see the attached exif info from the picture you sent me :) ... He need to take the picture with main camera (ideally 200 MPx picture - this will force to use the main camera) .. also the focus enhancement must be turned off.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] chetszot:
Bananagate issue happens on S23 and S23+ variants only. People claiming any S23 Ultra has such problem, in my opinion, are searching for a problem where it doesn't exist.

I have tested areound 10 Ultras in many electro stores and none of them had the issue. Also, I have checked around 10 vanillas and 10 Pluses units in the same stores and ALL of them had the bananagate issue. Weird thing is that each of them was a little bit different, but still noticeable and indeed existing.

Please, stop even talking the Ultra model has any issue. There are no evidence for that.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] DaOldMan:
I will talk to him today. I explained to him to use only main sensor in 200mp mode so i have no idea what happened. I think with ultra when it senses you are in macro mode it will ALWAYS use the ultra wide macro camera. It's the same with my s22 ultra. When the object is close the camera switches immediately to the wide camera macro sensor. This is why ultra has no bananagate at all and that's what I am talking about. I will tell him to turn off focus enhancer.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] miro1360:
@DaOldMan The whole time I am talking about the main camera and how to test it. Samsung engineers did workaround solution with ultrawide camera for macro photography. But the ultrawide camera is not 200 MPx and it does not have the parameters for which people pay a lot of money. So saying S23 Ultra doesn't have bananagate problem is wrong. The main camera on S23 Ultra has this problem and the AI programmed to fool customers with the ultrawide lens and the focus enhancement. Fooled was also @chetszot , so you can go back to the store, set the camera into 200 MPx, take the picture again and you will prove for yourself that the main camera on S23 Ultra has the bananagate issue, just because you don't know how to test it doesn't mean the problem isn't there.

@DaOldMan Bananagate is visible also on landscape photos which were taken with the main camera. Good photographer can see it in the details of buildings, signs, but also leaves and tree branches.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] DaOldMan:
1. Here is the picture from the main camera. No banagate, sorry. Yes there are difraction/shallow depth of field problerms which can't be solved on a 200 MP sensor. Comparing to iPhone is funny as it has NOT 200 MP sensor:

200 MP with main camera, check it out.

2. S23 Ultra in macro mode going to the ultra wide camera is not a trick. Ultra has a ultra wide module with variable focus, which S23+ or plain S23 don't have. So they can't use the ultra wide for macro but S23 Ultra can. Usage of ultra wide camera for macro is not a trick but a widely accepted fact on all mobiles. It gives the best results.

3. Who said you can do macto shots in 200 MP on the Ultra ? If you read reviews you know immedietly that 200 MP is only on the main camera, this is what you pay for and buy. And yes. I prefer great 12 MP macro then horrible 200 MP one. I am sure you do too. Which D-Slr do you have with 200 MP ? Do you need 200 MP for anything ?

Cheers.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] miro1360:
@DaOldMan Finally, the blurring can be clearly seen in this photo from the main 200 MPx sensor on S23 Ultra. We can name it diffraction or whatsever, it just makes blurring on unwanted area and in unwantes shape. Normal lenses will do this "blurring" at the edges of the photo (if any) and in the circle shape, not banana. S23 makes it in bananashape and only in the upper thirth, really like a banana shape (the area behind this banana shape is remaining sharp up to the edge). But one thing I must admit, Ultra makes less bluring as the non ultra or plus.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] DaOldMan:
Sorry but I don't see the same thing:

1. No banana. There is a slight out of focus area (this text is 9 point big) on the lower part of the picture. Out of focus area is not circular, it's a rectangle. So a blur from edge to edge.

2. This just means it's out of the field of depth area. As this is a 24 mm focal lenght camera with a 200 MP sensor , the depth of field is extremely shallow something like 3 mm, so what do you expect ?

3. My friend told me this is probably at the edge of optics performance, so don't expect anything better. No one can do it, physics still works. Even on iPhone (which has a much smaller sensor so has a higher depth of field).

Anyway, I wouldn't loose any sleep over this. 200 MP is quite useless for the majority of people, as you don't need it to cover a building with a poster or crop so much out of the picture. Who needs 50 MB files ? Better use RAW and then adjust it as you please.

Cheers.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] goTouch:
Samsung addressing this problem!?? Don't know

Samsung finally confirms blurry S23, S23 Plus cameras, says a fix is coming

Samsung has confirmed a so-called banana blur issue affecting Galaxy S23 and S23 Plus cameras, adding that a fix is coming.

www.androidauthority.com
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] chetszot:
For me this statement is rather a bad news because they are oficially and publicly making people dumb in the same way as the Customer Service employees have been doing so regarding this issue.

Software can MITIGATE the problem, not solve it.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] DaOldMan:
I have bad experience with Samsung "fixing" bugs like this. I hope for all my S23/S23+ friends that I am wrong this time.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] Racpu_:
I just received the S23 from the technical center, the repair report replaced the camera module and updated the software.

I have some doubts if the camera module was really replaced, why is the blurring problem the same, or if all the modules were replaced with problems.

Apparently Samsung has not acknowledged the problem and says that it will be corrected by software, but personally I do not believe that it will be fully corrected, it will be able to be mitigated or disguised in some way.

Because replacing the cameras of all of them on S23/S23+ is not feasible, both at an economic level and credibility for consumers, so they say that it is a feature and that will now be solved by software.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] chetszot:
Like I wrote 2 posts above - software will MITIGATE the problem as it is hardware issue. We are to be basically left with faulty device with Samsung bull**** praising it's a "feature" of this crap.

This looks very bad to me.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] Racpu_:
I already updated to the new update that promised to solve the focus problems and blurred image "bananagate" but the problem remains.

Samsung change the equipment to all users of S23 and S23+ because mine has already been changed the lens under warranty and it's the same.

Anyway, I'm not going to sell it because I don't want to deceive anyone like Samsung did and is deceiving us.

But I will send it to the warranty every month if the brand doesn't fix the S23.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] chetszot:
I got the update today and, at least in my case, the banagate seems to be "less bad". I did some shots before and after the update and the difference is significant, but - like I was expecting - they are AI cheating on text only. So text shots are better (though still not perfect) and the banana shape blur is less visible. However - everything else is as bad as it was before.

Other than that this 2.2 GB "massive" update made the photos look literally as it is from low range A30-A20. Literally. No details, oversharpened, a lot of smudge areas where more details are, tons of noise. I just can't believe this is 2023 flagship phone. Even my development old S9 is doing far better job in all scenarios.

I am TERRIBLY disappointed from the camera quality of this S23 garbage. Pathethic. Really
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] Racpu_:
After three months and already with several updates and promises that would correct the blur, it's all a lie... the problem is hardware and there is no way to correct it by software.

See the example of my old S10E and S23+

Samsung S10E

Samsung S23+
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] chetszot:
Of course it's all lie and Samsung is making us all dumb.

I gave my S23 to Samsung Service Care in late June with long description about the issue and a lot of examples with faulty photos. The employee confirmed they know the issue exists and took the phone to the service.

After 5 days I got my phone back. NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE DURING THIS TIME. They gave me a service note with this:

Software issue, will be fixed with next update.

They did LITERALLY NOTHING. Even the battery level was approximately the same when I was getting this garbage back and the employee literally laughed at me claiming the phone is fine and they can't repair A WORKING phone. I don't know if they are totally brainwashed by Samsung bull**** and they truly believe this lies or are they literally TOLD to play as such.

Pathethic, really. The most frustrating thing is that in my country it is virtually impossible to have my money back at this point of time (over 4 months after purchase) without lawyer's help.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] Dexter_prog:
New s23+ user here, coming from S21. I notice the picture quality of the stock app is terrible, with lots of noise compared to using expert raw* or gcam. Also this persistent "bokeh" effect, which I guess is due to the lense, but quite annoying for the main camera.

*Expert Raw has a post-processing issue where it oversaturates the picture with a yellow tint. So not usable most of the time.

I don't take too many pictures with my phone, but I'm considering returning it as it's a damn 1000 euro phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] chetszot:
I have also "upgraded" from S20 and - even if the lens was perfect from the hardware side (and it's of course not) - the picture quality is tenfold worse than what S20 produces. Only GCam port makes this crap really usable. Default camera produces very, VERY bad photos.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] DaOldMan:
August camera update didn't help? My wife's camera on s23+ is quite fine. Macro want good. Will test macro now with August update.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] dyastrab:
I took a few shots after the August update yesterday. It looks like the bananagate issue is resolved.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] DaOldMan:
I hoped for this but I asked @chetszot (just one post above) but he didn't bother to answer :-( yet. Lets hope it's really fixed. People will test everntually. Maybe even the OP of this post.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] Aethera:
Several Android news sites are reporting on the August update which addresses camera issues:

Samsung reveals big Galaxy S23 camera updates in the August 2023 patch

Galaxy S23 update finally fixes 'banana blur' camera issue, adds 2x zoom

Samsung Galaxy S23 update fixes bananagate issue, introduces 2x in-sensor zoom for photos

I'm curious what any of you guys' findings are with general camera focus, not just the 'bananagate' issue.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] Racpu_:
I have the August version and it's still the same, this problem will never be solved, it's an optical problem and not a software one.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] chetszot:
Hello, apologizes for my late reply.

August security patch has not reached Europe yet and I truly doubt this will ever make this bananagate issue fixed. And I will not be able to tell, because I have decided to return my S23. This took me almost 2 months, but I succeed.

This phone's camera is just a garbage. Even if there was no bananagate issue, the photos from S23 are just terrible I can't look at. Using GCam helps a lot, but its far from user friendly usage (especially if you are not able to launch it without unlocking the phone).

I'm looking forward to try it once One UI 6 is released with this new feature to disable image post processing. This will be my last chance I give to S23's image processing. If it's still terrible - then it will never be good in my opinion and only GCam remains.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] Aethera:
Went on a short excursion recently and took multiple photos. Was extremely disappointed - almost every photo was blurred, many of them badly blurred. It was about 4 pm in the afternoon on an overcast day. The light was not bright but still, for the camera to do this poorly under that level of light is unacceptable. I just cleared cache and storage for Camera and Expert RAW apps and will try more testing.

By the way, the bad focus issue (which I get on basically all photos: landscape, tele, and close-ups) only seems to pertain to the camera. The video quality is excellent. In fact the video is so good I could almost take stills from them that are equivalent to photos.

Sample out-of-focus image: The Coyote Brush flowers in the foreground are badly out of focus. The people walking on the bridge mid-distance are badly out of focus. The bridge in the background is out of focus.

Below: badly out of focus closeup shot of a flower
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] Otelo:
Do newly built phones still suffer from this? I'm considering sending my phone to a service center, but if there is zero chance of getting a fix, I would rather not go through the whole process.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] Otelo:
Sorry Aethera, but this reads like some marketing bollocks, are you a Samsung employee by any chance?

Every phone I ever owned for the past 10 years took sharp pictures. I have tried the gcam you linked, but results are exactly the same. I'm not willing to make any 'tradeoffs' when paying almost 1000 euros for a phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] Aethera:
No, just hoping that there's a way the focus issue can be fixed.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] Otelo:
Ok, but you still seem to be discussing camera performance, instead of an obvious production defect, which this thread is about. I'm afraid I can expect the same from Samsung, we'll see.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] Otelo:
Took the phone to a Samsung service center, they kept it for 2 weeks, then told me it's fixed, camera module replaced, motherboard replaced, second camera replaced, yet serial number and imei stayed the same. ALso recommended I take pictures from 50+cm to avoid focus issues, as they do. Obviously, they didn't even touch the phone, I think Samsung told them to get rid of any moron who comes in with a S23 camera blur complaint demanding a fix, they will buy the next new one anyway.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] Aethera:
I sent mine in for repair and mentioned camera issues and they replaced it.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] Aethera:
But that would make sense though that the serial and IMEI are the same because the camera is a module that plugs onto the mainboard. So if you get a new camera they replace the module but the mainboard stays the same.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] qhorque:
I've been using Samsung phones for a while now and none of them have produced good images. I've come to understand that reviews are wrong and Samsung cameras are just not that good.

I don't have a ring of blur like the OP but I do get photos that I thought were in focus resulting in being out of focus which is annoying but, because I review photos right after taking so I can re-take them, that's not that big a deal. More of a hassle.

What I don't like is basic blur in the entire photo where nothing is really sharp. An example is when taking a photo of a high quality ruler/scale which I know has straight lines marking the distances but, when looking at the Samsung photo, the lines are not sharply defined and tend to be "wiggly" and indistinct. Taking photos of my cat shows fur and whiskers that are not detailed either. Just an overall poor quality image.

When trying to figure out what's wrong, I usually see responses like "Your settings are wrong," "Update the app," or "Maybe there's a protective film you need to remove" etc. Nothing helpful. I have seen some review images that seem to be good though where you can download and zoom in and things far away tend to be reasonably sharp and legible but, in my photos, I can't seem to take a clear photo of a calendar across the room in a well lit area.

S7, S9, S23+ all have poor quality results.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus] chetszot:
To me, your store seems like you had faulty hardware, which in my experience - is unfortunately VERY common for Samsung devices, at least where I live, in Europe.

I started using S-series since S7 and its rear camera was a beast. Actually because of how good S7 camera was that time (and actually still is compared to how crap S23 is), I have started to use only S-series. However - my unit had faulty front facing camera, which I had replaced 3 times with no success and for the fourth time...

Samsung Service has "replaced" my S7's faulty camera with... brand-new S8, which was available at that time.

Nice from Samsung, but that brand new S8 had a faulty camera hardware as well. Its rear camera focus engine was literally physically blocking itself from movement. I had to hit the phone really hard to make it unblock, move and focus. After 1st repair the new camera module produced blurry pictures similar to what you describe. Corners (around 30% of total image) and middle part of every image was out of focus. After second repair the camera had yet again the focus engine problem just like it was brand new. 3rd repair was successful and I still have this S8 on my desk and it works perfectly. I have taken thousands of perfect photos from this phone and they are still way better than S23 does.

After S8 I have upgraded to S20 which was without any issues from day one right after its release. My wife has this phone now and this is the best camera phone I have ever had or ever seen. In my opinion S20 camera takes tenfold better pictures and videos from all cameras comparing to crap S23 (even to a good unit without bananagate). In case of S23 this is software's processing problem.

Given that both my S8's, S20's and S23's lenses are without manufacturing failures and apart from crap image processing S23 does, I have clear and sharp photos from all of them.
[Google Pixel 7] Legioner228:
Привіт, купив телефон з розбитим дисплеєм, замінив його, а тепер в меню немає сканера відбитків пальців, Андроїд його взагалі не бачить. Сам сканер цілий.

Mod translation: Hello, I bought a phone with a broken display, replaced it, and now there is no fingerprint scanner in the menu, Android does not see it at all. The scanner itself is intact.
[Google Pixel 7] Badger50:
Greetings. As a friendly reminder, we ask all members to please post in English as stipulated by XDA Rule #4:

Spoiler content hidden.

Thank you for your cooperation, and have a pleasant day.

-Regards: Badger50
[Google Pixel 7] 41rw4lk:
Google Pixel - Update and Software Repair

There is an option for fingerprint calibration, not sure if that is what's needed, but it's an option.
[Introductions] bsty85:
I am very new to everything, have a lot of things I'd like to learn.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] digitaldon37:
2/3/09 Update

I have updated the pocket freeware program with the help & permission of the Freewarepocketpc.net site.

I am looking for 1) feedback & suggestions, 2) testers, 3) B4PPC developers to help out - I want this to be a program that is useful and maybe even be something that could turn into an "App Store" someday (limited to what freewarepocketpc.net, of course)

[Description]

I've started another project over at Basic4PPC - this is called "Pocket Freeware" The goal was to create a client that would let you scroll through the software titles at Freewarepocketpc.net and install them directly onto your PDA.

Project url: http://www.basic4ppc.com/forum/open-source-projects/3487-freewarepocketpc-net-client.html

Released under the GNU General Public License

Current version: D.13 (developer's release)

Install instructions: unzip & copy to PDA. Program will create any directories and files that it needs. (this is a developer's build. future public releases will have a cab)

Attached: PC and Pocket versions (zip)

Features

1. View applications by New, or by category (edit categories.txt file to customize what categories you want)

2. View application detail - if app was installed by "Pocket Freeware" it will have checkmark and show both installed date and latest available date.

3. Download & install

4. Pocket PC and PC versions

Future or still in development

1. View list of what has been installed from freewarepocketpc.net with this app (and check for updates!)

2. Landscape mode (not implemented due to my laziness and focus on features)

3. View listings on freewarepocketpc.net's shareware site

4. More robust downloading (working with site owner)

5. Save settings (currently hard coded, some you can change during run-time)

6. Clean-up details page (artistic, I am not)

7. Your feature here?

Instructions & hints

1. Checking an unchecked box in the details page will download and install the app

2. Clicking on the image in the details page will enlarge the image. Click on image again to minimize.

3. Little "X" in right hand corner of details page will close the details & return to listing

4. Double click (or press enter on dpad) to select application to view details. I may add the detail launch on the main page image in a future release
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] FatBoyExtraordinaire:
Sounds like a great idea.