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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] achmed20:
bugs so far

- copy and paste still doesnt work for editing contacts

- file explorer upper menu (changing directory) doesnt chage directory (read something about a fix here)

- little bit annoying -> when finger menu is opend, there is this close symbol on the top right. it acctualy closes fingermenu and not the app. that leaves the running app which called fingermenu in a unusable state.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SaBo:
Nice piece of software.

Works ok with most applications.

What I miss though is being able to scroll with the scroll wheel or the up/down hardware keys.

Sascha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lastnikita:
still won't work for spb diary context menu (displays fine, clicks fine, but does nothing)

with resco explorer favorites menu (top right):

edit favorites: ok

my device: goes to recycle bin

my documents: ok

start menu: ok

virtual folders: does nothing

recycle bin: does nothing
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lulugirl896:
Thanks for a great app! For those just starting out with this, here are the progs I excluded that it doesn't work (properly) in:

-Resco Explorer

-MemMaid

-SPB Finance

-TaskFacade

-WM5NewMenu

-Palringo (won't open conversation when a message is received)

Also: Anyone know how to exclude SPB Diary?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Ruudfood:
Yeah? Have you tried that?

I've worked out what the problem was with mine: it doesn't like being installed on the storage card! Installation on device is strongly recommended? I'd say it's an absolute must on the X1 - can't comment on other devices obviously!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajige:
Total commander problem

The FingerMenu in general seems to work with the program Total COmmander. However, if I want to rename a file, clicking the rename menu entry doesn't make it possible to rename the file. Does it have to do with the fact that the file/folder is no longer selected?

Also after uninstalling the program and before installing a new version (but after a soft reset), the start menu is messed up; icons show, but the background is white and there is no text (because the text is white?). If I don't want FingerMenu installed, do I have to do a hard reset to get my Startmenu back?

Any news on whether it will ever be compatible with programs written in .Net C#?

If everything works, it's a great app!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] francarl:
see first post! install on device memory is strongly recommended, specially if you use autostartup feature, but this is true for all application that starts with boot, not only for FingerMenu. Note that dll installed by FingerMenu is always deployed to \Windows\.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] francarl:
perhaps...

of course the answer is no, no hard reset required. I don't know what happens to your device, check if FingerMenu is really completely uninstalled. I suggest to close fingermenu, uninstall from control panel, then softreset.

perhaps...

I never says that FingerMenu isn't compatible with all .net apps. For example, create a simple c# apps and test with FingerMenu, i'm quite sure that it will works. [/QUOTE]

thank you!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] checkeys:
On my HTC Touch HD "Blackstone" the Fingermenu does not work, I only see a scrambled area without text. I installed a clean version 1.09. Does anyone else have the same problem on their blackstone??
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] francarl:
add shell32.exe to exception list. But this will disable also FingerMenu for SIP menu and others today plugin. FingerMenu remains still working for Manila2D because it is implemented as external process.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] marlboro_55:
nice work thanks....................
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] francarl:
yes you're right, "programs is hard coded". I will correct this in next release. In meantime, manually create shortcuts (use Resco Explorer, or SK Shortcut creator or, perhaps, Total commander). Program is installed into \Programs Files\FingerMenu (memory or storage card). Sorry!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] francarl:
I've tested PocketInformant, latest trial version 8.51 build 2329, on windows mobile 6 emulator, and all seems to work correctly!! even cut/past/copy feature. I really don't know why you say that it doesn't work. Does anyone else have the same problem with FingerMenu and PocketInformant?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jaskiratsingh:
Hey Francarl,

V1.09 is pretty smooth than previous versions but still there are few issues where finger menu doesnt work. Below are some

1. Sorting message or mail: In windows it sorts in ascending and descending order alternately where 1.09 doesnt work

2. One Note Issue: Options doesnt work

Good Things

Works on Resco Explorer, File Explorer, spb wallet, PIE

Must Do (as per end user)

1. Back button: If user selects a submenu, its irriating for user to close the menu and then reopen it. There should be a back button

2. Divide menu into two: This can be a feature. In case menu is not displayed completely on screen, divide it into two halved. That would definitely mean cutting the siz for single menu but it can give finger menu a better look. Try Mobility Touch Commander and enable finger menu. Drawback of touch commander is you have to install complete application even for finger menu and it consumes lot of memory which is a plus point for finger menu

3. Finger Menu on start button: it would be awesome
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] exmerci:
I've installed the last version of fingermenu. It works better as so old version, but i have a problem with fingermenu and phonealarm.

In normal mode without finger menu, i can start to connect the phone with the bluetooth A2DP headphones. If fingermenu is active, this function doesn't work.

Then I try to add phonealarm on the list with excluded applications. But i don't find that in the list :(

Is it possible to add phonealarm to this list in another way?

PS. Sorry for my bad english :o
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Ruudfood:
Thank you Francesco for your feedback. I think it might be a good idea to modify your first post to indicate that it is not just recommended but completely necessary to install on the device if you want the application to start on boot.

I think I said in an earlier post that I like the IDEA of this application but it doesn't work very well for me. Problems include:

- can't uninstall. I don't know whether this is because I initially installed it on my storage card but there is no option in Remove Programs for this app.

- multiple instances. despite v1.03 apparently fixing the issue of multiple instances I was still able to open 2 the very first time I tried it. Again, it may be because I had installed it on the storage card but it didn't dawn on my why none of my menus worked until I went into task manager

- inconsistent behaviour. in Outlook, the Menu option works when viewing the list of mails but sometimes not when you open an individual email. You press, the menu turns grey but nothing happens. You need to close FingerMenu and start again. Sometimes it's fine but overall it's very hit and miss!

- unexpected crashes. To explain my previous point I tried to use Finger Menus in all of the different messaging windows (SMS/MMS, Outlook, Hotmail). It worked for a while but then I clicked, the menu popped up and then it froze.

- battery consumption. The only new program I added yesterday was this one. No other changes were made to my phone. Wifi was turned off, the phone was on silent, push mail was set to off peak (no sync) and the battery was 90% charged. Normally overnight there would still be 75%. This morning it was 50%.

- no option (as far as I'm aware) to remove the autostart option

I hope my feedback proves useful because I love this app - I just can't get it to work in a stable manner.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajige:
Maybe another program caused it? Beause now it's happening whether or not Fingermenu is installed or running.:confused:

I'm sorry, but I know you never said it wouldn't work; it was just my own experience.

So I just made two small programs (see attached) in C#. Both of them only has the form with a button on it. One form has a regular menu on it, the other has a context menu.

Clicking on the menuitems is supposed to color the button either blue or red. Without FingerMenu this works fine. With FingerMenu running, the menus shows fine, but nothing happens when an item is clicked.

That's why I thought maybe this was something that happens for all c# programs.

I have some other program coded in Pascal , and there the menus work fine.:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JukEboXAuDiO:
Ok been through most of my programs. Here is what doesn't work with FingerMenu so far.

1. Any option when you get a text message and you click the right menu and tell it to save a read or dismiss. It does nothing.

2. Bluestarter

3. BTSpammer

4. Capsure

5. DiamondTV

6. FTOuchSL

Fingermenu does nothing in these programs.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JonnoB:
Great app, a couple of issues

First of all, let me say that this is an excellent idea and the implementation has gotten better in the last two updates. I have however, experienced a problem in general with the menu regardless of application the menu appears. The problem is that the menu is less finger friendly than the standard menu. What I mean is that it takes multiple presses of the menu to get it to select it when using my finger. I sometimes have to hold on the menu item for a second before it is activated. Using the stylus does not experience this problem. Thinking this may be an issue with the way finger sensors work on the screen, I instead tried my fingernail and it worked well just like the stylus... so the problem seems to be just using the finger - which is why I want to use this app. The menus look and behave similar to those in TF3D which is what I like, but those menus are not affected in the same way - I can use my finger or stylus equally well. It seems the menu selection needs to be percise requiring a fingernail or stylus. Is there a hidden configuration for this?

My device: HTC Touch Pro flashed with ROMEOS

Suggestion, the ability to use the scroll wheel and dpad for menu selection just like the standard menu in case finger use is not convenient.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lastnikita:
I do now.. lost 30% of mine (which is a lot for omnia) in one hour.

now it's been 3 hours I've exited FM 1.09, and it's back to normal.

so, I'm not 100% sure, but I have high doubts :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] player911:
I just stumbled upon this and WOW, freakin' awesome.

I haven't done any real testing but seems to work just fine. At first glances, the ONLY thing I see wierd is the transparencies with the background apps. It seems to add transparencies to all open apps... for example, with the menu open, I can see the Messaging app AND my today screen all bleeding together. Not a really big deal, but takes the usefulness out of having the transparency feature.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bogdatov:
+1 ... same on HTC Touch HD (WVGA)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] xenokira:
Looks pretty cool, I'm looking forward to trying it out!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] whaleyboy:
Doesn't seem to work on my Touch Diamond (MDA Compact IV)...the menu is just black with no text visible. :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ZenitoSS:
Its not compatible with SmileySMS 1.68
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bogdatov:
Great potential ... will wait until it grows

Potentially ... one of most useful apps for WM6, since it changes way how all menus in WM work.

But right now it has some issues

- SPB products ... SPB Mobile Shell, SPB Diary, SPB Weather ... menu appears, but when you click on item - nothing happends

- Resco Explorer ... when you click on "Favorites" - menu appears, but clicking on item moves you to WRONG place. E.g. you click Favorites->Software, but it moves you to Favorites->FTP folders

- AlReader2 (ebook reader) - first level menus appear, second level (nested) menus - DONT, clicking on item hangs phone and FingerMenu crashes

Otherwise - great idea and GREAT look and feel.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jiles:
Thanks a lot to the developer, great program, really important step to finger-friendly interface for wm.

About some bugs i found:

Program's not compatible with AlReader, submenus don't open.

Also i've got something strange wiht transparancy of background window. When menu opens, i see current background merged with previous ones. Like this:

And some wishes of course)) Maybe it was already discussed, then sorry))

It'll be great to make a black 1px-thickness frame around a menu. It's difficult to choose a suitable color for menu, that looks good with dark background and with a light one. Frame would solve this problem easily))

Also i think it'll be god to close menu on tap beside it, on the background zone.

And the last one is to make a "back" button is submenus, or maybe to change right softkey from "close" to "back" in submenus.

Thank you for your brilliant work man!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] EgorLev:
I use PI 2007 rev.5 maybe this is the problem. PI 8 is allot different.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] EgorLev:
strange, it works for me.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mattcoz:
This is simply fantastic! :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] furry:
Works for me with this version.

Love the newest version with the up/down buttons. So far it works just as good as the previous 1.08. None of the apps improved (I dis-included the same apps) but so far so good keep up the work!!

After this app is stable and running solid I'll be the first to purchase (if you decide to make it so)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fiendz:
When switching from portrait to landscape while a menu is showing it doesnt let the menu redraw. Also having issues with the transparency of the background making the display jumbled.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Noonski:
I tried one of the earliest versions of Fingermenu and althought i thought it was a good idea, the initial version just wasn't functional enough.

I should have had more faith in the idea. Gracing brought it to my attention again and i thought hey let's check the update.

It's looking and reacting much better and i think this is going to be a great must have addition.

The only Thing i found harmful to usability At the moment, was that when using Flick Scroll through list, and if the flick ends on either the Top or Bottom arrows of the Menu. That it will also execute that arrow after the Flick. Making it feel like the Flick didn't work or like the Flick is getting Jiggy with it. (I have Just Copyrighted the sentence "The Flick Is Getting Jiggy With It")

Also some Quicker Screen Taps don't always get captured as a Down (button does light up but does not do the do).

Basicly it's Timing, if you get to tweak the timing of some of te reactions a little more, you can make it just perfect.

So my sincere apoligies, as i did not think your earlier version would get up to the Snuffs your latest version is. It's Simple, It's Clean & Functional and i will have faith it's going to even get better.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] FatBoyExtraordinaire:
I finally got the chance to install this bad boy and test it out and at first I was sad. It installed fine, but I kept getting the graphical distortion people were mention. Read the thread, tried the 255 and transparency disabling, but still no dice. Oh well, have to uninstall. But I really wanted to use this so I uninstalled from my SD and, although I have very little space, installed on my device and it worked perfectly. Great piece of development right here. You don't realize how much you need something until you have it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nighty:
this is phenomenally... it works on my Blackstone and on my Raphael!! Many thx for this so wonderful application!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] LordDeath:
I installed it on my Touch HD and started FingerMenu, but it doesn't work. Is it compatible with the Touch HD?

edit: Ok, just read the post above mine. :)

I have disabled HTCs big menus. Do I have to reenable that?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sergio PC:
You Sir have out done yourself:D.

This is great.

Thank you very much.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lordsinasina:
another problem : why the d-pad does not work with it?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] z3ntn3l:
Still not working on my Omnia.

I only get a distorted menu. i disabled transparency but it was distorted too.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] null-arc:
found bug

V1.09

HTC Touch 3G

Application: Pocket Ding

Function "Copy to Notepad" doesn't workl
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mcyan:
the program is generally works great in samsung i780

thanks for the great program!!

but since i780 has the finger mouse

it is not working to use the mouse to choose the menu item

(i guess it's due to the mechanism of gesture of up/down(scrolling) movement in menu)

can the program change the gesture mechanism so that it is suitable for both mouse and finger gesture?

anyway, thanks for the great program, it's nice!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] superpc:
seems to be a lil bit slow on my diamond

default SIP menu on diamond is much faster

a great idea thou, if it can be speedy enough on my diamond, it's gonna be a must have :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Antboy:
Awesome app. I had no display/transparency issues, and the few 3rd party apps I threw at it (CorePlayer, Opera) functioned fine.

I was seeing the increased battery drain issue though.

Using v1.09 on HTC Vogue.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _4saken_:
I really have to agree on this. on my touch diamond I find myself pressing menu items several times before something happens. if I use the stylus it works right away.

this needs to be fixed asap or else you can rename this great tool to stylusmenu :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sportyg:
BUG !! I CANT SELECT SD CARD.. only phone memory? why? SD CARD is not listet

When i am in Touch Flo 3D or in contact List and want to add a USERPICTURE ..

I CANT SELECT SD CARD.. only phone memory? why?

SD CARD is not listet in the finger menu

THX

THIS APP IS AMAZING , I LOVE IT.. go on. :D:D:D

sportyg

phone: TOUCH HD
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] francarl:
sorry, doesn't work for now...simple right softkey then "Add to Exclusion List".

On Manila 2D this adds HTC_HDlg.exe to Exclusion list for FingerMenu.

Thank you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JesperO:
Problem

Maybe my attached screenshot will speak for itself.

Any suggestions?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hatookah:
Need

Thanks to all, I need same but for I-mate ppc 2003, is it poss????????
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] francarl:
sorry, no planned version for windows mobile 2003. It will too much complicated.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kunz:
francarl,

Any chance you could allow skinnable arrow buttons - or a way to completely disable them?

Right now they take too much screenspace.

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] comingloud:
got the same problem too
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Kraize:
I've told everyone that had that problem....Set...Transparency.....to....255
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ssvdude:
Artemis???

:confused:Does this work With Artmis ???
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wanwarlock:
wow! nice app & concept. will try it out.

thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mike21pr:
thank you so much for this!!! these are the tweaks that we need to make WM a more pleasent and appealing experience..

any plans for a similar interception / more eye catching tool for the pop up windows or incoming texts?? VITO SMS Chat does this already so its not impossible

thanx again
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] francarl:
of course yes...i'm planning it, but when I'll have time.

thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] francarl:
much thanks to you! I've put a link to your post at thread begin.

For Notes app, the two window classes used are "Notes" and "Worker" (ugly name from microsoft!!), as you reported: they work for me.

does anyone else have this problem???

thank you again
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaime Méndez:
I found out that "ClassName"="screenClass" is the one that causes FingerMenu pomps up at StartMenu's action.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] francarl:
thanks a lot

advice:

valid class windows to be inserted in fingermenu configuration are those that process the WM_INITMENUPOPUP message! moreover, these window classes must have (for now) desktop window as parent window (the window with handle = 0). So, for example, FEXPLORE is a valid class window because it processes the WM_INITMENUPOPUP of softkeys menu, but SysListView32 class (which is son of FEXPLORE) is not valid. That's why popup menu (whose WM_INITMENUPOPUP is processed by SysListView32) doesn't work in FEXPLORE. Instead, RESCO_EXPLORER_CLASS window class processes all WM_INITMENUPOPUP messages, so both softkey menu and popup menu work.

EDIT: some application as Notes creates two or more window with desktop as parent window. In this case, treat each window class as separate application.

You can use Remote CE Spy (included in Visual Studio Pro) or free dotfred's task manager to discover these classes and include in fingermenu configuration.

Ask me if you have problem in discovering right window class for your favorite application, i'll try to help.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaime Méndez:
I found out that "ClassName"="screenClass" is the one that causes FingerMenu pomps up at StartMenu's action.

"ClassName"=WMP:

"ClassName"="PlayerBrowseWindowClass"

"ClassName"="WMP for Mobile Devices"

Total Comander:

"ClassName"="CECMD"

Fdc Task Manager:

"ClassName"="FdcTaskMgrWindow"

Mobile Calculator:

"ClassName"="CALC"

Pocket Exel:

"ClassName"="BOOKWIN"

"ClassName"="PXLMainWnd"

Pocket Solver:

"ClassName"="Pocket Solver"

Pocket Word:

"ClassName"="Pocket Word"

"ClassName"="WordPad"

NetWork Browser:

"ClassName"="Afx:e1fa0dd6:b:7c070384:45:7c08e7d4"

CityTime:

"ClassName"="CeWnd:GENERIC"

MS Calendar:

"ClassName"="Calendar"

MS Contacts:

"ClassName"="MSContactsUI"

Notes:

"ClassName"="Worker"

"ClassName"="Notes"

Tasks:

"ClassName"="Tasks Application"

GoogleMaps:

"ClassName"="GoogleMapsMobile"

Manila Comm Manager:

"ClassName"="COMMMANAGER"

UCWEB6

"ClassName"="afxUcweb"

Manila Audio Manager:

"ClassName"="AUDIO_MANAGER"

Pictures and Videos:

"ClassName"="PICTURESAPP"

Network Wizard:

"ClassName"="NetworkWizardCalss"

Jeyo SMS Backup:

"ClassName"="Afx:0355d206:b:7c070384:00000045:7c08bd04"

Remote Desktop

"ClassName"="TSSHELLWND"

Adobe Reader:

"ClassName"="Adobe Reader"

Power Point:

"ClassName"="BlackWindow"

Some of them doesn't work

"ClassName"="Dialog" doesn't work for any application
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaime Méndez:
I found out that "ClassName"="screenClass" is the one that causes FingerMenu pops up at StartMenu's action.

WMP:

"ClassName"="PlayerBrowseWindowClass"

"ClassName"="WMP for Mobile Devices"

Total Comander:

"ClassName"="CECMD"

Fdc Task Manager:

"ClassName"="FdcTaskMgrWindow"

Mobile Calculator:

"ClassName"="CALC"

Pocket Exel:

"ClassName"="BOOKWIN"

"ClassName"="PXLMainWnd"

Pocket Solver:

"ClassName"="Pocket Solver"

Pocket Word:

"ClassName"="Pocket Word"

"ClassName"="WordPad"

NetWork Browser:

"ClassName"="Afx:e1fa0dd6:b:7c070384:45:7c08e7d4"

CityTime:

"ClassName"="CeWnd:GENERIC"

MS Calendar:

"ClassName"="Calendar"

MS Contacts:

"ClassName"="MSContactsUI"

Notes:

"ClassName"="Worker"

"ClassName"="Notes"

Tasks:

"ClassName"="Tasks Application"

GoogleMaps:

"ClassName"="GoogleMapsMobile"

Manila Comm Manager:

"ClassName"="COMMMANAGER"

UCWEB6

"ClassName"="afxUcweb"

Manila Audio Manager:

"ClassName"="AUDIO_MANAGER"

Pictures and Videos:

"ClassName"="PICTURESAPP"

Network Wizard:

"ClassName"="NetworkWizardCalss"

Jeyo SMS Backup:

"ClassName"="Afx:0355d206:b:7c070384:00000045:7c08bd04"

Remote Desktop

"ClassName"="TSSHELLWND"

Adobe Reader:

"ClassName"="Adobe Reader"

Power Point:

"ClassName"="BlackWindow"

Some of them doesn't work

"ClassName"="Dialog" doesn't work for any application

I don't find ClassName for HTC Dialer

Regards,

Jaime.