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[Touch Pro CDMA] briandmiller:
General Questions about this

I apologize for parts of this that answered already in this thread but if I could get these general questions answered in one place it would be helpful to me and perhaps to other newbies as well.

If I follow these directions correctly, will I be able to restore my phone to the way that it was before starting? Can I back up the current ROM to restore from?

I use TomTom Navigator which registers to the device code of my PDA. On my last device (i760) when I did the ROM update from WM6.0 to WM6.1 from Verizon I wound up with a new device code and had to wrestle with TomTom to give me a new unlock code. Am I likely to run into this same thing by installing one of these ROMs? If so, is there a way around that?

I'm all for a minimal Start Menu which I don't use at all but I like most of what's in my Title Bar. Can I edit those changes easily before or after installing this new ROM?

When the GPS chip is unlocked, either by Verizon or by others, is the internal GPS function as good as I would get from just using an external bluetooth GPS receiver?

Thank you all very much for the work that has gone into this thread.
[Touch Pro CDMA] havoc8731:
Stock Rom?

Hey all,

OK, looks like there is a short or something in my phone. It keeps cutting out, I have to wiggle things around, and it will come back on. Then if I move it a little, it cuts out again, and I have to remove the battery, say a prayer, and sometimes it will work again. I need to get a new one sent to me. Where do I get the stock ROM for this phone? Thanks....
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
Check the first post. Its listed.
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
1. You can go back to stock.

2. You device code is a mix of your username and your ESN. If yo dont change ESN you have nothing to worry about. ESN is Electronic Serial Number.

3. Yes, any tweak I cook in will be removeable. I clearly stated that in the update. I even put it in BOLD.

4. Debateable but not for this thread. Please keep this thread related directly to my ROM.

Hope that clarifies for you if not let me know.

Thanks!
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
2.1.4???? Can y ou confirm that. I noted some oddities with 2.1.2 and the ROM as well. Didint know there was a 2.1.4.

Thanks!
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
Yes, the CE OS is what made it faster. Remember this is all in the name of learning.....

The next ROM will be fast but its more of a challange to build the ROM from scratch and try to make it fast. No fun taking a CE OS that someone else already tweaked well, like the eRice kitchen. He did a great job putting it together, no doubt. I just like the idea of going back to the stock ROM and trying to tweak it. The stock ROM does have some potential once you start tweaking it. No, its not quite as responsive as the 20931 build I put out.

This is sort fo a special project more than an update to this ROM. Look at it that way....

AS far as being happy with the current ROM... There is no need to jump ship then... I will be releaseing lots of beta stuff to play with. Every release may not be for you or the next guy. This is for those people like me who are always searching for something new or just want to experiment with other peoples creations / toys.....

Later title bar and any tweak that disables anything will be removeable and I stated that in bold. Basically what I did was remove the driver by renaming the reg entry. Freed like 5 megs of RAM! When you disable the two functions it still leaves the driver loaded wasting 5 megs of RAM. Crazy?????

Glad to hear that the first one is working good for you!!!!
[Touch Pro CDMA] Cranemachine:
Donation

Hey Scott I just sent you a donation and I just wanted to make sure it went through alright. Can you let me know when you receive it to be sure please?

Thanks again for your time and effort! :D
[Touch Pro CDMA] havoc8731:
Thanks, found the leaked one and that worked. But now the relocker doesn't seem to work. It looks like it runs, but when I enter bootloader afterwards it still says security unlocked. Am I doing something wrong? I am using USB and it says 100% complete on the phone and reboots, but when I enter bootloader manually it still says security unlocked. Any ideas? Thanks again for all your help..... I can't wait to get a working phone so I can load your ROM again, it was great while it lasted :)
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
Yes sir it did! Thank you very much! IM motivated to keep going!!!

Thanks to all who are giving support both monitarily and through positive and encouraging feedback!!!
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
No they all say security unlocked. I dont know what the message is reffering to but its normal. Confuses most people.

How you confirm is the bootloader version should say ".35" if you have reverted correctly. If not then it will still show the ".35-comonex"

What does it show there?
[Touch Pro CDMA] slyfox7:
when is the next update coming out
[Touch Pro CDMA] havoc8731:
Phew! OK, it worked then. Yes, saying it is unlocked is very confusing. Everything is back to stock (and running much crappier than your build). Thanks for everything.
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
I was hoping to get it out last night but I have two issues I cant seem to narrow down. Three really... But one is easy fix. The other two are not serious glitches by any means but more so a very minor annoyance....

When you go to the settings Tab then select sounds the actual volume level in words is not desplayed (On, Vibrate, Mute/Off) untill you either click on them or move the highlit bar over them.

On the email page clicking on Menu does nothing. I think I know what that is. A disablement that I need to turn back on.

Give it a couple more days and I will release it. I just want it to be as solid as possible.
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
Good deal. Atleast you are getting a new one ;c) Youc an always come back!
[Touch Pro CDMA] gh0stb0y:
Yah, the release was supposedly done on Dec 12, 08.

Current version:	2.1.4

Release date:	Dec 12, 2008

Download size:	4.85 MB

Size on device:	3.3 MB

Requirements:	Windows Mobile 5 or Windows Mobile 6 device

http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/?en

I ran into issues with 2.1.2 where the drop down menu in the configs would have nothing and misc...the 2.1.4 fixed all that. Hope that helps. Just download it from the dl page.
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
Cool thanks!
[Touch Pro CDMA] Cranemachine:
SPB Mobile Shell

I currently have 2.1.3 and was wondering if there was a way to update mobile shell and keep my registration key? I would like to get to 2.1.4.
[Touch Pro CDMA] havoc8731:
As soon as I got my replacement, I could tell how broken my other one was. There was a rattling noise, the screen was crooked when the slide was open....All sorts of messed up...

It has been fine all day, so I am reloading your rom now. And I will probably load your new one as soon as you post it. You are the man! Keep 'em coming.
[Touch Pro CDMA] bkurek:
4 icons

imho i think you hsould add "4 icons per row in Programs and Settings" in the next build. it makes the menus look so, so much better. it's a much more efficient use of the vga space.
[Touch Pro CDMA] gh0stb0y:
Well, hopefully you've gotten your reg key written down somewhere or in an email, cuz that same key will work for 2.1.4....or.....yah, there's always the internet
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
If you still have your Reg key it will work with 2.1.4. If not SPB can email you one from there support page.
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
I will take a look into that.

The next release is still being worked on for anyone interested. To be honest with everyone I am running out of ideas for a cool ROM and am open to suggestions. Anyone know of any must haves that should be in the next ROM? Im talking touch pro specific not just regular software.

Any ideas would be cool. Other wise the next release will be a bit more spicy than the first two but still pretty slim compared to most ROM's.
[Touch Pro CDMA] SeeBeatty:
Well, Since you asked. A configured working version of Gyrator-2 incorporated would really rock! Not just the basic install, but one that didn't spin the phone around when you picked it up - but would orient the album, and other applications. Right now, only Opera actually uses the g-sensor.

I don't know what else is in the Fuze that we don't have,... I hear a lot of talk about Visual Voicemail and folks wanting to get it to work. The hitch with VVM seems to be more on the provisioning side than on the application install or ROM side.

I still have a big lag on my phone ringing to when it actually allows me to answer it. I wish there was a memory fix to get the dialer skin improved on these things. As it is, I'm really going to need to turn off the HTC dialer and use the Windows Mobile default.

Just trying to give you some more ideas,... I'm not the most creative type so I'm probably not the best to list out opportunities.
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
No these are great suggestions. I beat you to the punch on Gyrator! hahah I am adding that, Seismo, Diaomond Hologram for sensor apps. TF3D and Diaomond Config for utilities. I added the flip clock to TouchFlow 3D so thats kinda nice too. I dont think I am going to do too much else though. Still want it somewhat clean

If all goes well I will be posting here soon. IM about 99% done. Next 24 hours.
[Touch Pro CDMA] stanglifemike:
Anyway for the music tab to be S2P instead of stock?? Not sure that everyone would want that, but I think most would. Just a thought :D
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
VZ Nav ROM 1.0 has been posted

I have posted a new ROM. I dubbed it the VZ Nav ROM. Please see my new post: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=461524
[Touch Pro CDMA] brmeade:
Experiences with new ROM

Greetings!

I load your ROM rev1 last night... seems really great so far.

Just wanted to ask a question and give some feedback of my experiences.

First thing, when I loaded the ROM, everything loaded fine and customizations ran, then it went right into Windows Mobile. It never gave me the chance to run the screen alignment and so the alignment was so far off that I couldn't do anything on the touchscreen. I eventually had to load some software on my desktop to remotely control the Touch Pro so that I could start the screen alignment in order to actually use it. After that, no problems with the touchscreen.

Is the screen alignment supposed to come up normally like it did when I first got the device? Not a problem for this load, but when I eventually have to hard reset again, I don't want to have this problem again if I can help it.

The only other bugs I have found so far have to do with SPB Pocket Plus. I've lost some of the pull-down menus on that software and when I go to export settings, the keyboard locks up and I have to soft-reset.

Other than those items, great ROM so far!

Do you recommend changing to your new ROM that you just posted for better speed and/or stability? This was my first experience with a custom ROM and I am enjoying it so far!

Thanks,

Brian
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
I would go with the new ROM.

The SPB problem is caused from am old version. Try the latest version 2.1.4 that came out last week. It stopped doing that for me when I upgraded. Never so happy!

As far as the alignment... First I have heard of it. Others say they didint get Opera to install and that is part of the same process so I am not doubting you. Its just wierd, not sure what to say about that. I have tested the new ROM on multiple flashes and reflashes. Downloaded and tested it a few times from my website before posting the new link. I feel its solid and can also confirm the issues with SPB and alignment are no longer present (assuming you use the latest SPB).....

EDIT: Yup, just doublechecked SPB Mobile Shell and its good now with there latest release.
[Touch Pro CDMA] brmeade:
Thanks, actually it was SPB Pocket Plus that I had the problems with, not Mobile Shell. Looks like they haven't updated Pocket Plus in over a year...

I'll have to try out your new ROM. Does the screen alignment normally happen before or after the customizations run?
[Touch Pro CDMA] bkurek:
how about an easy way to turn on/off the location setting so that i can flip it on before using nav and flip it off when i'm out? i haven't foudn a faster way yet....
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
The new VZNav 1.0 ROM runs alignment before customizations. Didnt realize that Pocket Plus was doing that too. Im sure it will be updated soon.
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
Well, have you ever seen the Telus Location today screen setting? I will try to carve that out next time. Its basically the GPS toggle right on the today screen. Not sure if that would help.
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
Lets kill this thread

The new ROM is out so lets kill this thread. This ROM is now officialy old news. See my new ROM here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=461524

If you liked this ROM then you will love the VZNav Rom1.0
[Touch Pro CDMA] bkurek:
Nope. Third time is not the charm. Same error. VZ NAV errors out on saving privacy and closes with a GPS device error. The CAB I've loaded is...

verizon-xv6850-4.1.5.60-PROD-LPS_signed2.cab
[Touch Pro CDMA] lexluthor:
Wow, I can't even get past the unlocker phase!

I am connected to my Vista PC via Activesync (I see my phone in my computer).

I run the Verizon unlocker from ppcgeeks and follow the prompts, but I get an error saying the update utility cannot connect to my pda phone.

When it first loaded it did read the rom that was on the phone, so it must be connected.

Any ideas?

EDIT: Nevermind, now it connected. I had to accept a warning on the phone. Not sure if plugging back in a new fixed it or if I didn't notice the warning came up the first time.
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
Yeah, thats wierd. It wasnt preloaded on my Stock ROM. I had to download it. Once I did it always had the three times to load bug.
[Touch Pro CDMA] bkurek:
"My Button"

In your build under TF3D, Settings, My Button. Produces an error.... unable to load "wcscan.exe"
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
Here is the CAB I am using just fine. I navved all the way home with it.
[Touch Pro CDMA] theshaz:
Soon!

I order mine on Monday :) means I get it next Wed or Thursday.

Went to the nearest VZW store in Brandon, FL today....they finally have them in the store. It is boxy, my wife hates the shape. But I want the best WinMo PPC that VZW offers and right now it's the TP. I was bummed out today, I wanted to play with the device but the battery was dead, it would boot, then complain about very low battery and go back down. The screen is nice. Shame I couldn't play. The reps were not much help..."Would you like to look at the Storm?" :rolleyes:

So, Scott or anyone who installed Scott's ROM - how does TF3D perform? Any comments on general responsiviness?

Thanks

I figure by the time I get mine next week.....there will be quite a few ROM's to choose from.
[Touch Pro CDMA] s10onn2o:
hows the memory, and performace with a custom rom
[Touch Pro CDMA] bkurek:
Did you mean to say that you are using the same package as i am?

When I first open VZ NAV there is a "ding" aka error sound as it's loading but not notification of anything. If you have a different installer i would like to try it.
[Touch Pro CDMA] lbjohnny:
Hi Scott - I flashed & all seems fine. When I installed Wireless sync - I get an error message after I enter my number & password. Something about a PPP error code 11??? and it tells me my user name/password is wrong (unlikely) then it just hangs on the"communicating" screen

Any help on this?
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
Did you dial *228?
[Touch Pro CDMA] bkurek:
VZ App Zone

Fairly generic error.

When launched it claims it is "Installing a configuration file for this device. Please wait...."

Approximately one minute later it errors out and closes with "unable to connect to server"
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
Nooooo., dont have that problem. Maybe you got a bad file over the air. I thought I posted my CAB in the last post but I guess it didn't stick. I tried again and it fails. Hmmmm, I will post it on my site. Easier to download....
[Touch Pro CDMA] lbjohnny:
Yes but I'm a moron - I pressed optio #2 the first time! My bad - it's working.

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Santa should be there shortly....

BTW I still have PPC kitchen on start up....how do I get rid of the muppet??
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
Ok, Just go to the TouchPro link in the main thread...

www.scottcrosler.com/TouchPro
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
Hahahahaha... Same here! This is what I did. Created a quick ROM with no options and just the Black HTC boot screen. Flash it then flash back to a normal ROM like Mine and it will leave the hTC screen intact. My ROM doesnt overwrite the bootloader or the Radio either.

How is the responsiveness with it?
[Touch Pro CDMA] jasoraso:
Downloaded and installed - playing with it right now ....

I too had to *228 - I don't think I had to do to that when I was trying Nex's ROM ...

I'll post again after I have played with it a bit ....

Thanks Scott - keep up the good work!
[Touch Pro CDMA] lexluthor:
I'm not having much luck here.

I did get my phone unlocked and confirmed it using the method at ppcgeeks.

Now, I'm trying to load in your ROM.

My phone is connected via Windows Mobile Device Center.

I run RomUpdateUtility.exe from your package and I get an error 240: file open, the update utility can not open the requested file.

Any help?

EDIT: Nevermind again, I guess that .nbh file had to be in the same folder.
[Touch Pro CDMA] willmatic08:
I've been playing with this Rom all afternoon and i havn't had any issues once so ever,fast speeds and gps is a go.good work Scrosler.
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
Ok, so you are confirming as well that VZNav works, correct? Man, I was starting to get Nervous. Bkurke is not having any luck. I think he has a bad install.
[Touch Pro CDMA] lexluthor:
Ok. It's updated!

I guess I'll give SPB Restore a shot and see where that leaves me.
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
Are you provisioned? Did you dial *228? You are using data and not wifi, right? This only works with data.
[Touch Pro CDMA] bkurek:
Done. File name is obviously the same. Your installer was almost 2 MB larger than the one I received from VZW through Opera.

Same "ding" *during* launch.

However, in the end, it works.

Thank you sir.

Now on to VZ App Zone, Visual Voicemail and Button.
[Touch Pro CDMA] bkurek:
Yes I am activated. Not wifi. Data.

The stock I had also complained about USB so that is disconencted as well.

Still no love from the store.
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
So its working for you then? Holly **** man! You scare the hell out of me!

I made big promise on the title of this thread! Hahahahahaha Glad you got it going!
[Touch Pro CDMA] bkurek:
Damn. Spoke too soon. GPS requests are timing out. The app is running though which is better than a few posts back.

And before anyone asks my signal could not be any stronger. I am so close to a tower that there are radiation warnings on the door.
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
Dont know much about the app store. Your the first on that one. Let us know if it works. Should. Its, once again, straight from the stock ROM. If it worked on the stock ROM it should work here. I ported this ever so gently my friend. Its running on my phone too you know ;c)
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
QUestion, did you uninstall then re-install or hard reset then re-install? I would have done the latter.

Time outs may just mean that the GPS server is too busy in your area. Happens from time to time. I have that out here real bad. I was lagging from work. Took nearly 60 seconds to get a lock. Once I had the lock it was fine though.

I just tested.... Ran perfect. Locked in under 30 seconds. Try a hard reset and re-install. Atleast three others report it working so it has to be with a bad unintall of the previous bad install if you have not hard reset.
[Touch Pro CDMA] njmarchetti:
@lbjohnny,

Why are you using Wireless Sync? Unless your company requires it, do your self a favor and switch to ActiveSync. Wireless Sync is to put it lightly... NOT GOOD.
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
Just thought of something... You could also flash back the stock ROM because you are prolly not running the Telus Radio. If you flash back stock you will still be unlocked. Then just flash a ROM like mine, not made from PPC Geeks Kitchen.
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
Some people have to use it for things like webmail that doesnt allow Pop3 access I thought? Like Yahoo? I use exchange (Work) and the POP3 servers from my websaite for email. Never tried wireless sync.
[Touch Pro CDMA] bkurek:
I did hard reset with re-install. the app complained about a previous version being installed and that it would remove it before installing and so it did.

i just received an error in vz nav that said to call custoemr service due to authorization error. i think i'll wait. see if anyone else can confirm it works.....

i'm out for a while. be back later.
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
Are you paying for the service?
[Touch Pro CDMA] lexluthor:
Ok, well I'm back up after spb and I also updated to the telus radio. I'm in a bad signal area and the reports are pretty good on the telus, so I figured I'd try it.

How can I tell if my spb restore wiped out the IE6 update in your ROM?

PIE looks pretty much the same to me. I forgot to look at IE6 before my SPB restore.
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
Crap I am not sure to be honest with you. I never use IE. I guess you could have looked before you tried to restore. I would say hard reset, try it then restore. Thats the only way you could be positive.

Tell me what you think of the radio. I did the same. I dont notice any differnce in sound quality but noted that there are more bars. Also did not try any other radio on the phone yet such as BT or WiFi.
[Touch Pro CDMA] lexluthor:
I don't use IE either.

But there's no about page or any other way to tell if it get updated by looking at it?

In my windows folder, iexplore has a file date of 12/8/08 at 10:17, so I guess that must be yours.

Weird that there's really no way to tell from looking at it.
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
YEah, tell me about it. Microsoft thinks differently than the rest of us. Hehehe... Anyways. Do you use VZNav? How is the overall responsiveness of the ROM compared to stock ROM?
[Touch Pro CDMA] lexluthor:
No go on SPB. When it restored it said something about the device being different and maybe it did a different kind of restore. I don't think it restored the registry, so things are kind of messed up.

Oh well, will reinstall my stuff now.
[Touch Pro CDMA] lllboredlll:
I got your thread on ppcgeeks unlocked and edited. You are more than welcome to post whatever you want without my opinion being voiced.
[Touch Pro CDMA] dimitri407:
So what is the Page Pool of the ROM?
[Touch Pro CDMA] lexluthor:
I'm getting an error when I try to install .net 3.5.

Anyone else having problems with that?
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
Thank you!
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
Whatever the stock Page Pool is. My pagepool tools do not seem to work with this ROM.
[Touch Pro CDMA] dimitri407:
Yeah, the one I tryed said it couldn't find the file or that the file was encrypted.
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
EDIT:

Its already installed in the ROM. I didn't inspect th kitchen super well. Focused on porting over the VZW OEM's.

Will update first post.
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
Exactly so I said screw it. Runs smooth though.
[Touch Pro CDMA] dimitri407:
Has anyone been able to get the visual voicemail to work?
[Touch Pro CDMA] lexluthor:
Ok, that's kind of what I figured but was a bit worried.
[Touch Pro CDMA] Scott:
Its cool. Did you try VZ Nav?
[Touch Pro CDMA] bkurek:
correct. i am paying. it's rather odd. it's only the gps functions that don't work. i can ask it all sorts of questions like "where is the zoo?" or "show me a map of a given address" and it will do all that but gps functions do not work. like "where am i?" or any sort of nav. basically the app appears to be working. the data connection is solid but gps is not. given the authorization error it could very well be that verizon has locked me out for f'ing with this so much in the last few days or so. i may have to call.