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[XPERIA X1 General] odobo:
ok I set it and it does something... then jump back to today panel...

I have the QuePPC file in my storage card\garmin\wm folder and tomtom in my storage card\navigator folder.... neither 1 of them work and they both jump back to today panel

maybe I can try to copy the queppc to garmin and try it again

EDIT: that didnt work =P garmin wont even start XD
[XPERIA X1 General] zenkinz:
do you have Que.exe in \Garmin directory? I think Garmin will still copy it to your device even if you choose to install it in your storage card.

have you set Garmin Mobile XT as the nav software in the panel config tool?
[XPERIA X1 General] Bxsteez:
No i do not have que.exe or a \garmin directory on the device. I do have it set as garmin mobile xt.
[XPERIA X1 General] Bxsteez:
I basically copied my wm folder from my storage card to my device and renamed the exe to Que.exe and it seems to work but it doesn't look as smooth as your video. I think i'm using a different version of garmin mobile xt
[XPERIA X1 General] odobo:
do you copy it to root or under program files folder?
[XPERIA X1 General] zenkinz:
is yours Garmin Que, or Garmin Mobile XT?
[XPERIA X1 General] zenkinz:
it will only work if there's Que.exe in \Garmin folder, and only if your version of Garmin is Garmin Mobile XT, not Garmin Que (the predecessor of Garmin MXT)

It sounds like you do not have a valid version of Garmin, and that's why it jumps back to Today panel (actually it would jump back to the panel manager subsequently)
[XPERIA X1 General] odobo:
hrmm... it is a garmin mobile xt that I have... at least that is what it is showing when I start up the program

I tried copying the wm folder from storage card to device\garmin... and rename the QuePPC to Que like bxsteez did(?) but still it just jump out to the today panel... and I also have tried tomtom which is also store on the storage card... and it is jumping out to the today panel as well
[XPERIA X1 General] zenkinz:
can you PM me the Garmin shortcut file in your Windows\Start\Program folder?
[XPERIA X1 General] skycamefalling:
It's the same with TomTom I think. I did set up the panel UI and changed the software to TomTom but the panel throws me back to the today screen.

I use TomTom Navigator 7 which is located in \Programme\Navigator\TomTom Navigator on the memory card.

Maybe there's the problem because I use a german ROM? Could you just implement the feature to set the link to the navigation software manually?

EDIT:

The link in the Windows Start is Windows\Startmenü\Programme\TomTom Navigator
[XPERIA X1 General] Bxsteez:
Ok so i copied my WM folder over and renamed QuePPC.exe to Que.exe and I went into the panel config and set it to garmin mobile xt. Then i did a soft reset and it seems to work rather smoothly now.
[XPERIA X1 General] zenkinz:
I am building the next release to have the path set to storage so there's no need to do the copy. I think that's fine for Garmin (the nav software is preinstalled in the sd card anyway) but I just wonder if for Tomtom is the program folder always in Storage or ??

The next release should also be more stable in terms of handle the Windows event. Should have something in a day or two. Sorry if the first beta created problem for some folks (should have limited release .. :()
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
got tomtom 7, did settings in panel manager and changed it to start in landscape. when i pressed on panel it changed the screen to landscape and then back to portrait, then went to wm today screen
[XPERIA X1 General] skycamefalling:
The TomTom Navigator 7 is installed by a .cab file from the htc diamond. So you can install it to the phone directly or to the memory card. But the folder names in the german ROM are different from the english ROM. There had to be the problem, I think.

So when it's possible to set up the .exe by myself, everything would be fine :)

Oh wait...is it also possible to set all incoming calls to the speakers while in navigation panel? So I just need to press the green button and can talk to the caller hands-free (but without a headset)? And what happens to the navigation map while I'm talking on the phone -would be bad to miss the right highway exit because my girlfriend just wanted a little chit-chat :D
[XPERIA X1 General] Bxsteez:
You might want to make it possible for the user to change the location. That might save u some aggravation. I'm not sure how difficult that would be to code but its an idea.
[XPERIA X1 General] zenkinz:
The new code would be able to check if the program is installed in the device or storage card location, as well as getting the right "program files" path based on the locale (i.e. program files versus programme). The tomtom/garmin path will still remain per the software installation setting.
[XPERIA X1 General] Bxsteez:
I must say since i copied it over this is a pretty smooth panel. I haven't had any huge problems with it besides a crash or two. Thats not big deal i can't wait to see your next release
[XPERIA X1 General] skycamefalling:
I can't wait to try it out -I'm looking forward to simply changing the panel instead the repetition of clicks and settings when the phone is in its carholder.
[XPERIA X1 General] KakiKaktus:
Navigon

Hi,

I really like the idea of this panel. Unfortunately, I have not received my X1 yet, but as soon as I receive it, I will install your panel and try it.

Could you maybe aslo integrate Navigon MovileNavigator?

Another option which I think could be very cool is that everybody could set the path to any programm which is installed on the X1 manually. So it could be possible to generate for several programms (not only for navigation) a its own panel. If you could also integrate more options into the configuration UI I could imagine i.e. a special Internet-Panel which enable WiFi and/or UMTS and starts the IE / Opera or a Panel for an application which doesn't run under WVGA (so the panel could have integrated some option like the WVGA patch from fotoingo) and so on.
[XPERIA X1 General] zenkinz:
This is possible, although in theory I hope this profiling support to be part of SE SDK so that any panel could have access to profile setup/activation. Not sure if I want to spend time to do this, but if I'm bored this holiday, I could take this as another project.

The next beta release is ready. much much more stable (imho) than my first beta release, but I'm considering limited release so as to iron out all the issues that I may not have the chance to discover (esply since I don't own TomTom) so if you are interested to test out the Beta 2, let me know and I will send you the link to the beta 2 cab.
[XPERIA X1 General] MerijnB:
raises hand :)
[XPERIA X1 General] blink182_joel:
Me too!

raises hand :)
[XPERIA X1 General] zenkinz:
based on the initial feedbacks, I should be releasing beta 3 (yes not beta 2, due to some localisation problem for non-english xperia which has been fixed in beta 3) in a day or two! :D :D
[XPERIA X1 General] chua333:
Cant wait anymore!!!
[XPERIA X1 General] Bluediss:
I would also like to test the new beta. I just installed the panel (cab from first post), but I can't get it to work on my Dutch X1 with Tomtom 7.91. When I open the panel it switches to landscape after a few seconds, the back to the today screen in portrait and then it switches to the panel selector. Also tried it with portrait mode, but it just keep switching to the today screen and the to the panel selector. I think it's the problem with the path (Programmabestanden\Navigator).

I really love the idea for a navigation panel that sets up your device for navigation (only landscape mode in my case) and then launches the navigation software.
[XPERIA X1 General] CILLER:
I am really looking for the next release, i love the panel but it doesnt work for me yet "tt7 on storage card"

As far as I can see I will enjoy the next release :D
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
i would like to try the new cab:p

pleeeeaaasseeee:p
[XPERIA X1 General] zenkinz:
beta 4 has just been released, on the first day of my holiday :D :D

Check the first post of this thread for more information about beta 4, and the CAB to be downloaded. Remember, you need to configure the panel right after you installed (I didn't make an auto prompt so ...)

17-12-2008 Beta Release 4 (version 1.0.BETA-4)

Fix some stability problems with regards to Navigation windows manipulation

Fix localised folder path support for non-english rom

Added support for Garmin Que (Garmin Mobile XT predecessor), on top of existing TomTom & Garmin MXT.
[XPERIA X1 General] THJahar:
Hi....In your next Beta could you add oldSAP SpeakerPhone for those of us without bluetooth headsets

.

Thanks
[XPERIA X1 General] jhoward1082:
This panel is turning out great, thanks for making this. Just wanted to give you a heads up on a bug i've encountered. I'm using TomTom and starting the panel works great, as well as the auto rotation to landscape. After inputing a course though and trying to "exit" out into the panel manager, it always freezes the phone.
[XPERIA X1 General] zenkinz:
by exiting into the panel mgr, do u mean pressing the panel button?

IF so, does the phone recovers after a momentary freeze or it just render the phone useless and have to soft reset?
[XPERIA X1 General] odobo:
phone hangs when I use the panel key.. to switch panel... when I use the "x" on the software it will go back to the navigation panel then load right back into garmin :D

I have to do a soft reset to get the phone back
[XPERIA X1 General] Jesco:
Thank You !

Works after the last update beta4, nice tool!! :)
[XPERIA X1 General] artesea:
Wishes:

* The panel to have a series of buttons

** Rotate Screen

** Volume to the max / back down

** Notifications off / on (noticed this is greyed out in the panel settings at the mo, so only once you solve this one)

** Bluetooth on / off

** Run navigation

* Then in the panel settings the option to auto-run with the options ticked (as per the mo) or show panel, allowing us to choose which bits we want.
[XPERIA X1 General] CILLER:
Since BETA-4 it actually works over here :)

I have 1 more wish,

I use my navigation software in landscape and that works until i use the slide keyboard to insert my destination. When I close it, it jumps back to portrait mode.

If that could be fixed in the next beta it will be awesome (for me at least)
[XPERIA X1 General] jhoward1082:
Yes, pressing the panel manager, and no the phone does not recover, I have to pull the battery
[XPERIA X1 General] zenkinz:
Hmm... are you using TomTom? Does anybody else using TomTom has this problem?

do you have the same problem if you do not set the orientation to landscape?
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
my tomtom 7 uk version works great on the new version.

the only thing i get is the first time i go into the menu there is a bit of lag switching pages that i dont get when just running the program.

great work;)
[XPERIA X1 General] zenkinz:
artesea, thanks for the idea, I thought they are great, what you meant is essentially to have a 'dashboard' rather than automatically run Garmin or Tomtom as Today background, and Garmin/Tomtom will be displayed 'on demand'. I see if I can churn out something since this would be a pretty extensive UI development, considering the last time I did a full UI development project it's 10 years ago (although I used native Windows programming SDK back then, similiar to what's required for panel development)
[XPERIA X1 General] skycamefalling:
TomTom also works fine here! No lags, no hang ups.

Only the problem that the screen rotates to portrait again if you make a call.
[XPERIA X1 General] zenkinz:
This is not a bug, but rather something I have not designed at the moment. I am doing some prototype to test the speaker function.
[XPERIA X1 General] randy_c:
I have garmin XT and install your panel. Working great but when exit Garmin. It take back to the panel and re-start garmin again. Acting like a loop and I can't exit garmin. I have to press the "X" button to take me out to the 8 panel...

Please advice
[XPERIA X1 General] zenkinz:
yes, this is the current behaviour, because my attempt to switch back to panel mgr is not 100% stable so I rather make it go back to Garmin..
[XPERIA X1 General] Bxsteez:
Hmm i don't know what is going on with my phone but this panel just crashes the phone constantly. I'm not sure why.
[XPERIA X1 General] sitelister:
Any chance of adding iGo support?
[XPERIA X1 General] zenkinz:
hmm ... bxsteez, do you mean that the beta 4 is unstable as compared to beta 2?

Beta 4 actually optimise the performance so I suspect it might be software conflict. Are you using Garmin or TomTom, and did you set auto rotate (to landscape). If you do the latter, can you set it to portrait, to see if the crash disappears? The screen orientation does create abit of problem previously so I want to see if it has been totally eliminated or not.
[XPERIA X1 General] zenkinz:
@ sitelister, yes iGO8 could be added in, I just need to know the path, and the title of the Windows.

I have updated the list of TO-DO items, but I am going to take a short break (yes I just started my holiday!) while at the same time I'm re-imaging my laptop... ;)
[XPERIA X1 General] kbm:
Excellent panel, works well with my TomTom.

I've added my own panels (hope you dont mind! :D), as it looks like a real TomTom panel now. Nothing fancy mind, just the standard TT logo.
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
i want

please

pleeeeeaaaaaassseeee

pretty please ;)
[XPERIA X1 General] sharpey:
just right click and save the files he posted
[XPERIA X1 General] blink182_joel:
how?

but how do you actually change the skin of the panel? like you did?

best regards,

Joel
[XPERIA X1 General] skycamefalling:
My Device\Programs\Panels\Navigation
[XPERIA X1 General] kbm:
The other two are the small landscape and portrait. Here are the other files Landscape large and portrait large; ( i could of packed 'em neatley in a zip file....next time maybe :o)

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa131/kbmacpherson/large_portrait.jpg

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa131/kbmacpherson/large_landscape.jpg

Plus, the navigation panel has two other image files (jpegs) not sure what for, but here they are;

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa131/kbmacpherson/Navigation-portrait.jpg

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa131/kbmacpherson/Navigation-landscape.jpg
[XPERIA X1 General] Bluediss:
Is it possible to lock the screen orientation? Sliding the the keyboard in and out switches the screen to portrait.

When I quit TomTom it doesn't return to the panel switcher, even after 30 seconds.

I like the dashboard idea. You would be able to switch the GPS on before a navigation or gps enabled app is started. it's a nice place for programs as tomtom, google maps, quickgps, trackme, etc...

you are really on the right track with this navagation panel!

Happy holiday, don't get lost :-)
[XPERIA X1 General] Bxsteez:
Thats exactly what it was. I thought it might have been setting the screen to max brightness but once i switched it to portrait everything worked great.
[XPERIA X1 General] zenkinz:
ok that's back to whiteboard again ... :(
[XPERIA X1 General] Xof_:
I'll be watching this thread.. I would really like to have an iGo8 panel :)

Path is "Program Files\iGO8\iGO8.exe" :)
[XPERIA X1 General] spaekhugger:
IGO

Yes Igo support would be nice
[XPERIA X1 General] zenkinz:
sorry guys, I have been away for the last 2 weeks, spending my time off with my wife and nephews... so there's alot of TODO list items that's still outstanding.

I like to take the opportunity to wish everybody a happy new year 2009 !
[XPERIA X1 General] KakiKaktus:
Navigon MN7

Dear zenkinz,

I really like your idea of a navigation panel.

Would it be possible to integrate another navigation programme?

Name of the Window: Mobile Navigator

Path to Progamme-EXE: Speicherkarte\Navigon\MobileNavigator.exe

Thank you for your help in advance :)
[XPERIA X1 General] TheMobilist:
This is a really great idea for a panel.

I am not familiar with programming, but is there a need to hard code the program path into the panel code?

As I understand it, the panel is pretty much executing a macro function (setting bluetooh, screen orientation, volume) and then executing a program. Am I right?

If so, would it be possible to just specify any program the user likes by entering the path?

That way, the panel would be much more useful, as it could be used to run just about any program as a panel.
[XPERIA X1 General] loonaticsz:
hey zenkinz,

im using mobile garmin xt, i love the idea!

but, i install the latest ver. beta-4, when i go to panel configuration UI i choose garmin mobile xt it says "navigation software not found" something wrong??

then i tried install previous version, it recognized!! then i start the nav panel it freeze my phone :confused:

FYI, im using X1i JACK's ROM

thanks!! :)
[XPERIA X1 General] zenkinz:
not just running the program, also managing the windows of the program depending on the windows event (orientation change, focus/unfocus, destroy, etc).

Of course it can technically be extended to a generic program (as long as the window name is being given) but at this point, I'm not considering doing that since it's open up a can of possibilities including bugs/scenarios not tested.
[XPERIA X1 General] sjanos:
Hi zenkinz,

Ever the best panel for X1!

For me just only 1 feature is missing, which could be implemented in your panel or directly in Garmin XT. This is to disable the power save if the panel is active.

When I am not navigating, just want to make a track log or whatever, the wm device is turning off together with the gps instead of stay is dimmed (Turn off back light) mode. This would be a good battery save feature instead of the always on usage.

Brgs,

/Janos
[XPERIA X1 General] Transform:
will this work on my htc kaiser?
[XPERIA X1 General] Angelusz:
It would also be really nice if you could have it check for installed navigation software. If it's only one program, have it auto-setup, so it doesn't have to crash if you forget. If that's not possible, at least have it tell you to set it up.

I've also had some problems with the panel crashing at random. I will let you know if I can pinpoint a cause.
[XPERIA X1 General] edmarcelse88:
3G or ?

My xperia doesnt have 3G subscription.. can i still use this navigation panel?
[XPERIA X1 General] skycamefalling:
The Navigation Panel is just a panel which loads Garmin XT or TomTom. So if you have one of those programs working on your X1 then you can install the panel. No data connection is needed, the navigation software just uses the built-in GPS.
[XPERIA X1 General] Angelusz:
Too bad it's just too unreliable to use. Locks up the phone often.
[XPERIA X1 General] MSiccDev:
Hello,

i use Mc Guider 2009. Is it possible to integrate it in your panel?

Thanks
[XPERIA X1 General] skycamefalling:
I had -absolutely- no problem with the beta 3 panel and Tomtom 7 right now. I use it very often while in my car and the longest time had been for about 9hours nonstop.
[XPERIA X1 General] erdingerweiss:
Igo8

Would it pls be possible to use this with Igo?

thanks.
[XPERIA X1 General] ZenithUK:
I've installed the beta panel today and tried it out with TomTom 7. No problems at all... it works perfectly.

Thanks to zenkinz for coming up with this. It makes my life that little bit easier. :)
[XPERIA X1 General] THESpideyWVU:
I haven't had a single freeze with the panel... It's probably your GPS program...
[XPERIA X1 General] met3107:
Waiting for Zenkin to incorporate iGo into the panel...guess he too busy nowadays.....:D
[XPERIA X1 General] m@rco:
Here is a zip files with the TomTom files.

Copy to programs files \ panels \ nav panel.

Backup original first
[XPERIA X1 General] scottca:
Hi,

Excellent Panel - Just wondering would you be able to add support for the wayfinder software that is available via the X1 CD?

Regards,

Craig
[XPERIA X1 General] borgaspower:
Update

Can you add support to Mobile Navigator 7 (MN|7)?
[XPERIA X1 General] rknuette:
Can you also add Route 66 N8?

Window Name: "Route 66 Navigate"

Path: "\Program Files\ROUTE 66\ROUTE 66 Navigate 8.exe"

Thanks in advance,

Rudi
[XPERIA X1 General] MSiccDev:
well, another time my question:

Is it possible to apply with mcguider 2009 please?

Window Name: "Sygic DRIVE"

Programm Path: "\Speicherkarte\Drive\WindowsMobile\Drive.exe"

Thankx
[XPERIA X1 General] the cosmic gate:
i tried tis panel, but get the error:Navigator not found please select valid navigator from the configuration screen . but how can i select the correct navigator ? (using TT 7)
[XPERIA X1 General] THESpideyWVU:
When you go to switch out panels, this panel has a settings button. There you can select the navigation program, screen orientation and a couple other features.
[XPERIA X1 General] arsen:
Hey,

great panel, many thanks for the contribution :) i use it with tomtom, makes life much easier in the car.

my only suggestion would be ... the panel image / button / logo thing, isnt a very obvious design, ie when on the panel screen, you wouldnt know its a navigation panel to look at it. would you be open to suggestions for panel designs? or maybe increase font size on the panel button to make it more readable on the small button.
[XPERIA X1 General] zenkinz:
sorry guys, been VERY busy with work for the last 2 months (felt like drowning) so all the promise before the break has now been broken.

At this point, I don't forsee doing any development work for the next 3 weeks and hopefully I can find some time when I take a few days off in March.

For those who had problem with the panel, try to set no rotation in the configuration setting, and see if the navigation software loads up properly or not. The rotation is known to give abit of problem, so that's something I hv to look into when I've time.
[XPERIA X1 General] fishywang:
Can you change the Garmin Mobile XT/Garmin Que/TomTom to any exe? I'd like to use it with Route66, and I don't think this panel need to know what navigation software it actually runs. I just need this panel to set environments (landscape, bluetooth, backlit, etc.) for me. So allow to use just any exe would be great :)
[XPERIA X1 General] the cosmic gate:
I cant change anything, when i try to switch to this panel i cant find the settings or cant touch the screen (doenst function when switching) ?
[XPERIA X1 General] skycamefalling:
As posted before:

Press the "settings" icon when you are in the panel selection screen.
[XPERIA X1 General] quickxs:
WVGA -> VGA

Nice panel! Although... I have TomTom Navigator 6 installed wich only runs well in VGA mode. I have the VGA fix instaled so if taking this step first there's no problem.

Would anyone be able to add to this panel the option to run TomTom in VGA modus (mening 640x480 pix)? That would be awsome!
[XPERIA X1 General] Hullie NL:
Nice panel, cant get it to work keeps saying no navigation found...have garmin on sd card :(
[XPERIA X1 General] domal:
plz anyone make this panel work with destinator 7 and i-go8 program ?? hello from greece
[XPERIA X1 General] zenkinz:
I will add the support for this in future release, but it'll take awhile since my work load is piling up.

Additionally, I will add the support for any navigation programs by allowing you to specify the path of the navigator and window name (pending for the testing of concepts)
[XPERIA X1 General] MSiccDev:
Looking forward to this - i also would test your programm if you need some more beta-testers.

I use Mc Guider 2009.

Greets

Papa Marco
[XPERIA X1 General] domal:
me too my friend
[XPERIA X1 General] erdingerweiss:
Cheers Mate!!!