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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] PythonFanTN:
I tried out MobiTV, XM & Cingular Video at one point, I didn't 'tweak' anything regarding any of them though. Haven't used PTT, have set off the prompt you get when you accidently push the button a few times but have always chosen no. And no, the SIM card is white and blue.

I'll try that file when I get a chance. After doing a bit more searching just using 'ims.cingular' as the search term it seems there are several others around experiencing the issue. One person suggested it had something to do with 'video sharing', but I've not tried playing around with that and to my knowledge I haven't inadvertently gotten into anything associated with it either, unless the above mentioned applications do?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
AFAIK MobiTV and other of these service DO USE ims.cing.... so perhaps it's coming from there.

Can you use the regeditor and do a search just out of curiosity?

Did you try...

Settings | Connections | GPRS

Highlight, IMS CINGULAR and click OK

"Connect To:" should equal "The Internet"

"Access Point" is the setting that needs to be modified. If the value equals, ims.cingular; modify it wap.cingular.

Soft reset.

... if it stays?

The only other thing could be that, pending dialer (i.e. one with video call capabilities like the std. Raphael has), could kick you out of wap and throw you in IMS 'cuz it thinks it's video sharing..

Edit-2 (found this in the HTC forum - WTF is this that ATT changes/swaps services automatically for video sharing???):

RE: video share

Dec 29 2008, 12:46 PM EST

"yes i have, it works fine on other phones. just not my fuze att can't fix it. it seems htc shipped phones that were not properly set up"

I didnt have to change any programming on my device,,,here is all I did.

AT&T adds the VSC feature to your service.

Soft reset the device.

When the device reboots, it talks to the network which then tells it that it has VSC and that from now on, all of your data connections will use ims.cingular .

Now for it to work, you have to be in 3G coverage, the other device you are calling must be VSC enabled, and you cant have Blackberry Connect. If for some reason your APN doesnt get changed, just change it manually on your device.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] zenithcoolest:
thanks tvguy I will look into it

I was installing a new theme and it was not working well. So I installed the cab and now the old one seems to be messed up. The old one is the one which comes on default when I follow your procedure in the first post

any way to resolve this?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
@zenithcoolest

You lost me somewhere in the middle :mad:

Which theme?

I didn't provide a full theme just clocks and OEM Manila.

Bring me up to speed, please
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] zenithcoolest:
I am sorry

I went here

http://www.mobile-sg.com/themes/tf3d.asp

and installed the solar flare theme in first line.

But then when I uninstalled it, the phone display is stuck at People page :(

I will try to post a photo of my phone
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
Hmmm to post pictures use mymobiler to capture (it's in the pack)...

I do not recall (and I'm too lazy to scroll back) which TF3D you used (stock ATT or OEM HTC). If you used the OEM HTC use the solarflare with the flip clock. This could have broken things. I also suggest to use the config tool not a CAB for themes. I wrecked my phone more than once in the past...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] zenithcoolest:
yeah seems like TF3D is corrupted. Any way to fix it? I used the the one described in the essentials folder I think

I took some pictures from someone else's HTC
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
@zenithcoolest - your themes

Mate, hope you get it back. Worst case re-install the OEM Manila again.

Attached is a ZIP file with your two solar flare themes as ".theme" files.

Unzip and copy them into a folder on your SD and use the Diamond TF3D Config tool to apply. Should work.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] zenithcoolest:
I have uninstalled that solar theme

Should I still copy the above files and use Diamond tool to apply?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
@zenithcoolest

NO!

First you MUST come back to a clean working TF3D afterwards we can think about breaking it again ;)

Edit:

Disable TF3D in today

SOFT RESET

Install the OEM_Manila

Enable TF3D in today

Soft reset

Report result
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] zenithcoolest:
I see HTC Manila under Remove Programs

So does it means I am using OEM Manila?

I think the only way is to reinstall that

How should I proceed with that?

Thanks for your fast response
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
I do not suggest to remove it from the installed program list with the default "remove programs" tab from WinMo!!! Too much crap will remain in the registry.

Rather "overinstall" the OEM version, bigger chance to get it back.

Hard Reset :eek: is still an option later but before we do that will try the above and backup our data!!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
Broken TF3D

Now reply in case you did NOT install the OEM Manila.

You can also install PT_Manila_REG.cab (ATT Manila) which should reside in the windows folder
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] zenithcoolest:
Which ones out of essentials I should install?

Before reinstalling should I disable or stop the TF3D?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
Take this one Manila_1.2.34569.1_1813.6_clock_animated.cab

AND (!!!!!) YOU ALWAYS STOP TF3D IF YOU INSTALL THEMES USING A CAB FILE!!!! With the TF3D config tool you need not but installing a CAB is a must!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] zenithcoolest:
thanks

before reinstalling I have just unchecked the TF3D from Today under Personal Settings

is that right?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
Yes

(Get ICQ! Much easier to do that stuff than through the forum).
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] zenithcoolest:
sorry in office cant use ICQ

Now trying

thanks for your time
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
na nana na naaaaa - I can - LOL B U T you can spend hours with the phone and in strange named forums (XDA-DEV) hahahaha

Please post the outcome.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] zenithcoolest:
lol good one

thanks I am back and TF3D is back too

I lost the shortcuts on Programs screen but it is ok

thanks for spending time on this
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
Thanks!

You owe me a diet coke (I barely drink any alcohol) or a double espresso.

NOW you can try to apply the theme you like (attached earlier as "dot theme" files) using the TouchFlo Config tool (I made them for you as THEME file). If it does not work, since you used the tool, you can go back to the original.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] zenithcoolest:
sure

is there a way to ship a diet coke from east coast? :D

I will try that file with caution sometime later and let you do the work also

thanks a lot sir
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
Welcome, was more entertaining than reading ISO documents (which I did on the side).

Don't call me sir makes me feel old - hahaha

FedEx overnight - LOL
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] zenithcoolest:
yeah sure

let me get back to some work and let you work too

laterz
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hopper13:
Stoopid newbie question: If I back up using Sprite, do a hard reset and debloating, then restore using Sprite, will that represent a problem or loss of benefit?

tia
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
Yes it will! Backup ONLY the PIM data (contacts) and do hard reset and debloat as in post 1.

Install Manila and progs, restore PIM data.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hopper13:
It's the many programs and settings that I'm trying to retain from a full backup. The PIM data will be restored via Activesync.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
I know it sucks but if you backup, reinstall, restore most of the new installation will be overridden! Even SPB backup which has a restore option after a ROM upgrade fails that task very often.

Note your tweaks and reg edits and apply them manually and look into install tools like sdconfig.txt or Sashimi to get all programs back. I good preparation is worth a lot and most of the time faster than dealing with the mess of a failed restore. Believe me.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] udgn:
List of what's included in AT&T stock ROM and what is removed Bypassing Bloatware

Hi to everyone on XDA Forum!

I'll try to be quick about this......

In past experience, when some one instruct (open a thread) about how to perform a hard reset in order to REMOVE "BLOATWARE" they initially forget about an IMMINENT request that may EMERGE, and that could be.........

....... A list of all cabs and stuff that are included in the original AT&T SETUP, I mean everything.

....... And a list of what IS REMOVED when you bypass the BLOATWARE.

Whyyyyy? Because some people would like to know what FUNCTIONS or APPs they are missing if they do the BYPASS.

And as for me I like TF3D as it is, and the phone set up, FOR NOW... and the only few things I will remove is unnecessary tabs, etc. Just minor things in order to have more memory free.

And want to make sure I will not loose usability.

NOT all of the APPs or CABS are BLOATWARE.

SO PLEASE MODIFY THE FIRST POST if you can and INCLUDE what I mentioned ABOVE. It would be nice if you include THIS.

"If it is ALREADY DONE in another THREAD please post the link here so People CAN get linked".

Thanks in Advance.

Keep up the good work.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
@udgn

Thanks for the critical post but NO NEED NOT TO YELL AT ME! :eek:

Though our intentions may be the same, you are the first criticizing some issues. I do agree that the first post could be better and will post the stock CAB files (which I meanwhile have) but the intension was that most NOOB readers of this thread are simply overwhelmed with information provided in this forum. Blinded by beautiful looking screenshots and stunned by reading understanding as much as a foreign language they've never heard.

I wont share PMs but believe me there were numerous ones which let me to create this thread intentionally in the Raphael not Software or ROM part if this forum.

OK back to business:

What is bloatware and what is useful for? Well, from the 28 programs and TSK files I guess I provided most of the useful stuff and cut out games and pay-per-use applications (which I would consider bloat).

If anybody else has an issue with incomplete information and difficulties to understand this thread let me know in public that I can fix it.

Post 1 will be soon updated with a link to the original ATT files (which are BTW NOT deleted from the device, just not installed).

Once again, my intention is/was to bring new WinMo HTC Fuze users closer to their device, to take some fear away playing with the phone and - last but not least - get more "HTC" out of it as AT&T intended.

Furthermore to give a little bit back to the community who helped me with my first WinMo device patiently answering my questions.

Read count and, at least most of questions and responses, undermine this (at least IMO).
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] nycll:
Thanks so much for a clearly written guide! I followed the instruction in post 1 and everything worked out fine.

Just to be sure, if I install manilla on the device, the removal of the storage card won't have any impact right? This morning I removed the card and the TF3D look was all messed up. I think I must have installed the manilla on the storage card. I uninstalled and reinstalled it. Now things are back to normal.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
@nycll

Happy and lucky that you got everything back!

Manila will sure run w/o SD card if it is installed the right way.

Sure ALL programs you installed on the SD card may show up with an icon but wont run until the card is back in (that should be clear anyhow...).
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] schneid:
I found post #1 invaluable getting me up and running with my new Fuze. I think it is clear can you either do with or do without the AT&T stuff and that some of it is useful. I decided to keep it but also used most everything referenced in Post #1.

Thanks for you thoughtful and well written noob guide. Don't Fuze Withou It!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] kurtw47:
Thanks for spending the time on this. I did everything you said except I didn't install the manilla TF3D stuff. I did put Spb Mobile Shell in its place and WOW! My phone totally smokes. It's a different phone now. Thanks again.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mcad:
Thanks for the great guide!

I have some questions:

!. Do you have the ATT non-flip clock files that I forgot to copy:

I suggest to copy the original files FIRST somewhere else in case you don't like the clock!!!

The filenames are:

* 0aa5b915_manila

* 1bbfdc9b_manila

* 1c813f6c_manila

* 4e670504_manila

* 757e7332_manila

* 78ca32be_manila

2. Why does Opera not show larger images? I get a blank white screen.

3. Opera won't open MediaNet, IE does and Opera opens other sites. Are there settings I can check for this?

Thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] udgn:
Do NOT GET OFFENDED

Sorry NOT Yelling, only Highlighting Important things in the request/suggestion. Really, Do NOT GET OFFENDED. I recognize your good work and Time.

Honestly, while some other people in XDA yell at us because we got tired of read, and trying to crawl over dispersed info about this, YOU TOOK YOUR TIME to help US, SO ONCE AGAIN REALLY, NOT YELLING nor Suggesting your work is BAD. IT IS REALLY A GOOD WORK and HELP. While people use capital letters to express yelling y used it to Highlight.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
@mcad

Little bit in a time crunch...

The removed ATT applications are listed in Post 1, if I find some time I'll write up s'thing about the individual programs.

The default clock:

I don't have it ATM, perhaps someone can post the stock clock files. I may get a handle on a stock ATT Fuze today but cannot promise.

Opera:

Please explain a little bit more detailed. Opera usually shows larger images if you zoom. Never had any problems with it so far.

Opera - MEdiaNet:

Not sure what you mean. MEdiaNet is the name of ATT's internet. If you refer to Streaming TV please search the forum there are several threads about how to set it up to run on a custom setup.

@udgn

Guess it was a misunderstanding - let me have a bad day, too (once in a while). Sorry if my reply came kinda harsh - wasn't meant like that.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] aSquard:
Tyguy,

Great write up. I followed the instructions and everything is good. Pretty quick too. I can't wait to play with the phone more after work
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] OK Dog:
Thank you for the write up. It worked out great. I have been throught it many times trying to get the theme I want. lol

Is there anyway to get the original ATT manilla/tf3d after doing the no bloatware install? The theme I want to use is made for the att version and I can't get it to work on any other version. The PT_Manilla_REG.cab file doesn't seem to do anything at all (that is the file the you had mentioned earlier as the default ATT manilla file).

Thank you for any assistance you can provide.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
@OK Dog

Actually I'm looking for it myself and didn't find it anywhere here in the forum. Suspicious, the PT_Manila reg (I looked in the CAB) is only applying some settings but the CAB is not there.

I'll look a little bit more and have to get the stock clock files from a NON molested Fuze. Not sure BUT it could work to copy the clock files over the OEM Manila and apply afterwards an ATT based theme...

"Wanna try?"
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mcad:
tyguy,

Opera:

The browser tries to open a larger image file and final shows its loaded, but I get a white screen, not the checkered, just white. I can attempt to zoom in or out, it still looks the same. I get a similar thing with Google search of images. A few thumbnail images come up fine but then maybe 15 or so later, they show up as white thumbnails, no X in the box showing not loaded and every thing else is normal. The program acts like everything is loaded normally, but I see a white screen. Another thing I noticed is the data connection starts out on H then a minute or so of use drops to E and then maybe 5 or 10 minutes it goes to G. Not sure if its related or another issue.

Opera _MediaNet:

Yes the ATT internet, when I go to open the default home page I get an error: Could not locate remote server

Opera opens other sites, IE can open the default home page.

Thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
@mcad

Opera:

Can you link a site you have trouble with?

What are your cache settings in Opera?

How is Opera set to? Mobile view or standard.

Did you run disablehiddenproxy (is in the windows dir) and check again?

MediaNet:

Can be a tricky one since ATT wants to change from wap.cingular to ims.attwireless.com which opens a total different can of worms.

Check first with adv. config, IE settings HOW the proxy is set (auto enable or disable) and just change the current setting to the other value.

Look around in the forum there is an unsigned cab for the ATT Medianet and LiveTV cab but try first:

enablehiddenproxy CAB (don't kill me for the disable above) and look if it comes up.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] OK Dog:
the cab files are in da_g's rom thread he has a complete tf3d cab and it needs another cab to go with it. but i don't know what all needs to be installed to make it all work on this version of the rom. thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
Just checked Da_G's thread... it just says that you must combine it with the audio Manager (I guess the one linked in the same line). Just downloading the ATT TF3D. Let me check if I can extract the clock files out of it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
ATT Manila

I give credit here to Da_G and will ask him if I can leech and repack into "my" ATT packet.

So far please download the original ATT Manila from his thread located here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=446652

The file you need is called AT&T TouchFlo3D and you have to download a matching audio Manager as well (the one noted in the same line).

For the ones who like the original ATT clock:

Copy the files mentioned in post 1 to a secure place (use TotalCommander) and replace them with the attached files (there are the clock files ONLY).
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] aSquard:
One question:

When I tapped on Manila Installation, it just installed and didn't specify me to install on the device or storage card? I went on with the rest of the install instructions and everything seems to work ok. Should I be concerned or hard reset and start over?

Edit: Remaining installation, phone asked where to install files

Edit 2: Forgot to turn off TF3D. Now phone asks where to install Manila Installation CAB
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] OK Dog:
So far so good on using that tf3d file and the red and chrome theme. I think I am done hard restting for a few days. lol Everything seems to be working great and as expected finally. Thank you for the great write up and help.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mcad:
Trying to open the link below and get a white screen, zoomed out I see a border for the image and text in the upper left says: Image

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...erperformance_427-435hp_Driveable_Chassis.JPG

I bumped up the cache to 8MB. Or are you talking about another cache setting?

Opera is currently set to standard view. The stock set up was so slow I could only use the mobile view.

I couldn't find the disablehiddenproxy (is in the windows dir)

MediaNet issue - I disabled proxy as it was enabled and IE worked with it disabled.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
Disable TF and soft reset and try to install again - should work.

All Manila and related stuff (backgroundalltabs, comm mgr extensions, S2U2, shell applications etc. should be installed on the device.

@OK Dog

Hurray we made it!!! Did you just copy the files (clock) or started over from scratch?

@mcad

So I tried with Opera and it fails in my setup, too (white screen) BUT it opens under IE though it's a huge file (far north of 3 MB). My cache is set to 24 meg so there shouldn't be an issue. So your phone does not like snakes if they are not original.

Let me play a bit more... add discussions about my dreamcar via PM please ...

Just checked with skyfire and opera mini. Both work...

Strange, uncommon for Opera.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] geirgear:
000

Hi, I installed and ran these files. Now the clock always shows 000. Do you know how I can fix it?, thanks, Geir Friis
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] OK Dog:
don't use the background4all tabs cab that is the problem.

oops the only way i could fix was to hard reset. you could probably reinstall your manilla/tf3d over the top if you didn't want to hard reset.

i am new at this so someone may have better ideas.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
Clock 0:00 and background all tabs

I do not know enough about your configuration and what you have set up exactly (enlighten me - LOL) but the clock 0:00 is most likely seen when:

A flip clock (as in my appearance package) is applied to a static TF3D**

An incompatible theme is applied

The calendar and call history cab is applied to the default ATT theme

** I call the default ATT TF3D static because it doesn't have a flip clock.

Please tell us what steps you took exactly.

Background all tabs 02 WORKS with the both Manila versions on the debloated ATT ROM (I tested both). Important is that a.) TF3D is disabled and b.) a stylus soft reset is performed after the installation.

If you installed it while TF3D was active simply install it again (on the device) and do a stylus soft reset.

You can try to disable TF3D / SOFT RESET / reinstall TF3D / SOFT RESET / enable TF3D.

Important are the soft resets to get the memory clear.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mcad:
ATT clock

Now I get a combination clock!?...dark background with white letters and the ATT font, but it still has the animated flip with the horizontal line. Suggestions? Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
@mcad

Which Manila (aka TF3D but easier to type - LOL) do you use?

Dark back white letters smells like ATT

Little line and animation - COOL - Don't get me wrong didn't know that this could work.

Did you play with other themes?

Can you make a screenshot with mymobiler? I would like to see what you have.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mcad:
I'd like to get away from the flip clock, but I do like this better than the white background style.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
Hmmm actually looks kinda cool (NO I DON'T SAY THIS TO IGNORE THE ISSUE!).

I guess the only way to get the non flipper (guess you are one of the few which don't like it) would be to install stock ATT and/or finding a "static OEM TF3D".

I didn't find one yet, still looking.

If you read the sticky, the one up there is a modified ATT to enable the flip click - darn you never can get it right ....
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Agent Blair:
Has anyone tried volume tweaks with the Diamond Tweaking program to increase the in-call volume?

I was reading a few threads, including this one: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=418582&highlight=volume

And I couldn't find a good way to increase the volume when I'm on the phone. I am pretty young and have decent hearing, but I have to say "what?" a billion times because the call volume is so weak even at the highest level. Surely this couldn't be a hardware problem? How could I possibly miss that in all the reviews I read? I am not too sure if it's a missing AT&T ROM they added that I got rid of, or if it's a hardware feature. Does anyone else have a problem with the volume on the Fuze?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tyguy:
WHAT DID YOU SAY, Agent?

That's a known issue with the Fuze/Raph.

First remove the 100dB restriction using Diamond Tweaks.

Close tweaks and soft reset with stylus.

If this doesn't work "AudioPara3.csv" will fix it. Please look in the forum because I cannot attach from the phone (not at a PC right now).

Copy into the windows dir and ... soft reset.

BTW the mentioned srs wow in the other thread wont help with the speaker and in call volume. It's and audio booster for headsets include BT headsets which increases volume and bass. Not all will work let me know when you need it.

IF you install the wrong one and your phone goes completely silent uninstall and soft reset.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] liquidchrome:
can we sticky this? please??